[12:00] <crimsun> theverant: what did you change?
[12:00] <cactii> crimsun, still nothing for sound... wierd... still says that it is playing though too...
[12:01] <theverant> I added a new rule set
[12:01] <deefzi> goddamn this bug on gnome-terminal is annoying. it puts my screen (with irssi) blue from time to time and i have to detach/attach every time
[12:01] <theverant> crimsun - but it's telling me udevstart: command not found
[12:01] <jnk> rabbit, try ssh://username@ssh.server.com:port
[12:01] <crimsun> theverant: /etc/udev/rules.d/ is reparsed automatically. Don't call udevstart.
[12:01] <patterson> someone just asked how to upgrade firefox under ubuntu . uh I thught he could uncompress the file into hos exsisting firefox folder. or do a new install in his home directory. then thought,gee wonder if theres something different about ubuntu
[12:02] <crimsun> cactii: I need your amixer output again
[12:02] <theverant> crimsun - do I need to restart for it to take effect?
[12:02] <cactii> ok
[12:02] <visit0r> hi, what's the ubuntu's policy of packporting trivial driver patches to current release's kernel?
[12:02] <deefzi> how can't i obtain msttcorefonts-package from apt, although i have added universe-packets in my sources.list?
[12:02] <crimsun> theverant: no, udev monitors /etc/udev/rules.d/ like I just said
[12:02] <theverant> oh ok
[12:02] <theverant> hmm
[12:03] <visit0r> breezy works perfectly otherwise, but my remote got a driver only in 2.6.14
[12:03] <_jason> eZe, just extract the file to ~/.themes as follows: unzip /path/to/Neosipo.zip -d /home/jasonr/.themes/
[12:03] <jnk> rabbit, also, connecting to a server from the shortcut menu, you can specify the port
[12:03] <_jason> eZe, ack hold on, I mean: unzip /path/to/Neosipo.zip -d ~/.themes/
[12:03] <cactii> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7158
[12:03] <djbjrca> hello
[12:03] <crimsun> visit0r: isn't there an external version? Just compile it as a module.
[12:04] <_jason> eZe, then you can select it under theme details -> controls
[12:04] <eZe> ok, thanks, i'll try
[12:04] <crimsun> cactii: amixer sset 'Headphone' off
[12:04] <Farris1> anyone ever used openafs?
[12:04] <crimsun> Farris1: yep
[12:04] <cactii> crimsun, when I lspci I still get 0000:00:14.5 Multimedia audio controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 4370 (rev 02)
[12:05] <djbjrca> i am having microphone problems
[12:05] <Farris1> crimsun: What do you think?
[12:05] <djbjrca> can anyone help?
[12:05] <crimsun> cactii: your lspci output won't change
[12:05] <visit0r> crimsun: no afaik it's only a trivial patch which adds something to some common usb input driver to recognize the special buttons (it's a usb receiver + remote thing)
[12:05] <rabbit> jnk thanks!  I didn't try that "connect to server" one..  heh
[12:05] <visit0r> crimsun: so it's not actually a full blown driver, but an extension to a previous one, afaik
[12:06] <crimsun> visit0r: then you can download linux-tree-2.6.12 and apply it yourself, then generate an image or just that module(s)
[12:06] <cactii> ok
[12:06] <crimsun> Farris1: more specific, please?
[12:06] <visit0r> crimsun: yes, I know I can do that, but then I lose the automatic updates from breezy repositories due to my hand rolled kernel, that's why I wanted to know what's the policy of backporting driver patches...
[12:06] <cactii> crimsun, Simple mixer control 'Headphone',0
[12:06] <cactii> ... still no audible output.
[12:07] <crimsun> lovely
[12:07] <djbjrca> how does one record with a microphone?
[12:07] <crimsun> cactii: amixer 'External Amplifier' off
[12:07] <Martini> Is it hard in Ubuntu to configure sharing of internet connection to other computers???
[12:07] <djbjrca> audacity didnt get the sound
[12:07] <crimsun> djbjrca: what sound chipset?
[12:07] <Chris_Tucker> thanks Kovecses that worked
[12:07] <djbjrca> one sec ill copy the name
[12:07] <visit0r> crimsun: I compiled 2.6.15 to this and it works fine but I get the usual ALSA driver version conflict problem I've had before (my sound card is not working perfectly, AC3 output does not work...)
[12:07] <Kovecses> Chris_Tucker, what did... i forget what we were talkign about
[12:08] <djbjrca> crimsun, sound fusion CS46xx
[12:08] <crimsun> djbjrca: make sure you unmute 'ADC', 'Mic', and 'Capture'
[12:08] <djbjrca> okay
[12:08] <Chris_Tucker> Kovecses, the gtk thing
[12:08] <djbjrca> shoot
[12:08] <cactii> crimsun, THANK YOU!!!!
[12:08] <Kovecses> Chris_Tucker, ahh ok
[12:08] <djbjrca> thank you crimsun
[12:08] <djbjrca> i g2g
[12:09] <cactii> crimsun, so should I put the atiixp into /etc/modules?
[12:09] <crimsun> cactii: echo snd-atiixp | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[12:10] <Steven_M> ok, one more time. I'm talking from the perspective of being logged in to a user who is a member of the admin group. What are the EXACT differnces between running "sudo su -" and "sudo -i"?
[12:10] <speedy> any one knows how to mount external hard drive maxtor onetouch II connected via firewire ?
[12:10] <set> !nvidia
[12:10] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[12:10] <crimsun> Steven_M: if you want the EXACT differences, that's system-specific. Use strace.
[12:10] <eZe> _jason, hm, no matter what I try, it just can't find the file
[12:11] <cactii> crimsun, ok so now it is in there with the | redirecting the output of echo to /etc/modules???
[12:11] <crimsun> I can be only so specific
[12:11] <Martini> Is it hard in Ubuntu to configure sharing of internet connection to other computers???
[12:11] <_jason> eZe, download it again and put it in $HOME so you dont lose it
[12:11] <crimsun> Martini: it could be simplified, sure
[12:11] <cactii> Man... I can learn Linux... I'm sure...
[12:11] <eZe> ok
[12:11] <Kovecses> Martini, very simple
[12:11] <rabbit> jnk,  still here??
[12:11] <cactii> Now what was the URL to the MP3 codecs again... hmmm
[12:11] <jnk> rabbit, yep ?
[12:12] <cactii> restricted formats..
[12:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell cactii about mp3
[12:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell cactii about mp3
[12:12] <rabbit> jnk, the server I'm using now shows up in the 'places' list..   how do I edit/or delete/manage the entries here?
[12:12] <clearscreen> Ermm.. Debian had the old kernel so I couldnt get my nForce 4 working with it (on install).. so I grabbed the latest ubuntu release since it has a later kernel version.. everything installed just fine.. but when I booted it told me "Error on loading operating system"(or something like that).. does this sound familiar to anyone?
[12:12] <theverant> crimsun - my new udev rule apparently had no effect
[12:12] <Kovecses> installing xmms will give you mp3 support
[12:12] <firebird> don't you need to install gstreamer-0.8plugins as well?
[12:12] <crimsun> theverant: what precisely is it /supposed/ to do?
[12:13] <JaZy84> how can i burn a ccd/img in linux k3b doesn't seem to be finding it as a valid im
[12:13] <JaZy84> g
[12:13] <gnomefreak> gstreamer08-mad
[12:13] <theverant> mount my ipod to /media/IPOD
[12:13] <Kovecses> firebird, if you want mp3 support in rythymbox
[12:13] <firebird> oh :)
[12:13] <gnomefreak> 0.8
[12:13] <theverant> seems like it should be simple enough
[12:13] <clearscreen> can anyone please help me :P
[12:13] <theverant> I used
[12:13] <theverant> BUS="usb", SYSFS{serial}=="000A270014A5EA62", NAME="%k", SYMLINK="IPOD"
[12:13] <crimsun> theverant: are you not using gnome-volume-manager?
[12:14] <theverant> crimsun, I'm running KDE
[12:14] <gnomefreak> theverant, nothing is all that hard if you take your time and read or ask the right questions you can than do anything :)
[12:14] <crimsun> theverant: then let ivman do it
[12:14] <Kovecses> very true gnomefreak
[12:14] <theverant> ivman?
[12:14] <crimsun> yes, that's what does it.
[12:14] <crimsun> you might need Dapper's version
[12:14] <crimsun> (if you're running Breezy)
[12:14] <gnomefreak> 3.5?
[12:14] <Steven_M> crimsun: Please explian one more time why sudo -i is prefered?
[12:14] <jnk> rabbit, rabbit I think you can from any file selector (ie you open an app like gedit and File->Open)
[12:15] <crimsun> Steven_M: because it doesn't call an external executable
[12:15] <gnomefreak> Steven_M, man sudo
[12:15] <Kovecses> Steven_M, you could just set up a root account
[12:15] <mgbowman> any preivous Gentoo users in here?
[12:15] <theverant> well my problem is that my device lineup changes, so something might be sdf one time, but sdg the next
[12:15] <theverant> mgbowman - me, kinda
[12:15] <rabbit> jnk, and then edit what??
[12:15] <Chris_Tucker> is there anything out there that will work with either amaroK/Kaffeine/ or xmms to make one of them play aacPlus streams?
[12:15] <theverant> mgbowman - I tried it out for a little bit had trouble getting my scanner working at all
[12:16] <crimsun> theverant: that's not really an issue at all
[12:16] <gnomefreak> if ubuntu inteded me to use su than it wouldnt be disabled :)
[12:16] <cactii> OMG I have MP3 and all my audio!!! Thanks guys. Thanks alot to you too crimsun. :)
[12:16] <Shadyman> cactii: Yay :)
[12:16] <gnu2it2> what is the difference between sid and dapper ?
[12:16] <Shadyman> Hi all.
[12:16] <jnk> rabbit, no just when you open a file from a gnome application, in the file selector you can add and remove places
[12:16] <crimsun> gnu2it2: Debian vs. Ubuntu
[12:17] <gnomefreak> sid =etch in a way
[12:17] <Martini> Kovecses: I found a tip in ubuntu forum - http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[12:17] <clearscreen> Ermm.. Debian had the old kernel so I couldnt get my nForce 4 working with it (on install).. so I grabbed the latest ubuntu release since it has a later kernel version.. everything installed just fine.. but when I booted it told me "Error on loading operating system"(or something like that).. does this sound familiar to anyone?
[12:17] <Martini> Kovecses: It looks it isn't so simple as you say
[12:17] <vincenz> how do I mount a directory on another computer
[12:17] <gillion> vincenz: use nfs
[12:17] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, please define latest release of ubuntu
[12:18] <xiaogil> how to survey the trafic on a website ?
[12:18] <theverant> crimsun - ok, installing ivman now... hope it works :)
[12:18] <Chris_Tucker> is there anything out there that will work with either amaroK/Kaffeine/ or xmms to make one of them play aacPlus streams?
[12:18] <deefzi> why can't i find package "msttcorefonts" although i have multiverse-repositories available?
[12:18] <deefzi> is it renamed?
[12:18] <Martini> maybe you have more simple way to configure sharing of Internet?
[12:18] <Kovecses> Martini, what exactly are you trying to do
[12:18] <clearscreen> gnomefreak 5.10
[12:18] <rabbit> jnk, I'm not allowed..  it's greyed out
[12:18] <gnomefreak> :) smart man
[12:18] <crimsun> deefzi: I'll bet it's because you didn't enable /breezy/ instead of /breezy-backports/
[12:18] <clearscreen> gnomefreak ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso :P
[12:18] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell chris_ticker about aac
[12:19] <bshumate> xiaogil: this is an excellent, and easy to get going package for web analytics : http://www.phpmyvisites.net/
[12:19] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell Chris_Tucker about aac
[12:19] <Martini> Kovecses: I'm trying to share Internet from Ubuntu to other computers
[12:19] <gnomefreak> it wont boot into ubuntu?
[12:19] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I get that error immediately after my bios post screen
[12:19] <clearscreen> and thats the only error I get
[12:19] <visit0r> crimsun: so... I suppose only security patches/fixes to bugs are backported to breezy kernel?
[12:19] <crimsun> visit0r: correct
[12:19] <Kovecses> Martini, do you have multiple ethernet cards
[12:19] <gnomefreak> what is the error clear
[12:19] <jnk> rabbit, well :)  click on a folder in the list on the right, and you can add it to places. Click on a place (one in the bottom part) and you can remove it!
[12:20] <xiaogil> bshumate: thanks!!
[12:20] <clearscreen> "Error on loading operating system"(in my language :P)
[12:20] <deefzi> crimsun, enabled both
[12:20] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, is that the only os on that pc?
[12:20] <clearscreen> nope
[12:20] <vincenz> odd
[12:20] <crimsun> deefzi: then what's the output from apt-cache policy msttcorefonts ?
[12:20] <rabbit> jnk, that's nice..  but if you add a "server"  now what?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> what other one? windows?
[12:20] <vincenz> I have a fat32 partition for sharing my data between linux and windows and I can't write to it
[12:20] <crimsun> deefzi: (pastebin)
[12:20] <clearscreen> yes gnomefreak, windows xp
[12:20] <speedy> i dont have /dev/sda*, how can i have these devices? so i can mount my external hard drive
[12:20] <revmoo> hey guys, I can't copy/paste proper anymore, i used to be able to select text and then hit both mouse buttons to paste but this no longer works, any ideas on why not?
[12:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hm
[12:20] <jnk> rabbit, you can remove it from there can't you?
[12:20] <visit0r> crimsun: ok, is it then possible to upgrade ALSA libs without breaking everything?
[12:20] <revmoo> this literally just stopped working overnight
[12:21] <gnomefreak> i would try installing ubuntu againa nd place grub on mbr
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> hi
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> i have this problem
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> DCOPServer could not be started,
[12:21] <deefzi> crimsun, E: Package msttcorefonts has no installation candidate
[12:21] <crimsun> speedy: they're populated when the drives are detected.
[12:21] <Shadyman> Is there a room more suited for questions about ndiswrapper/wpa_supplicant?
[12:21] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I did.. well the installer did that for me :P
[12:21] <crimsun> visit0r: sure...but why?
[12:21] <deefzi> crimsun, Package msttcorefonts is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:21] <amparo_pzzi> is any solution????
[12:21] <rabbit> jnk, no..  I can't..  it doesn't let me..   I think I'm still "logged in" though, because it's not asking me for my password when I click on it on nautilus.. so maybe that's why
[12:21] <crimsun> deefzi: sudo apt-get update
[12:21] <visit0r> crimsun: to be able to have the latest kernel and still properly functionin sound card :)
[12:21] <vincenz> How do I make the fat32 partition load as writeable?
[12:21] <gnomefreak> does it give you a grub "error" like 18?
[12:21] <clearscreen> nope
[12:21] <vincenz> only root has access to write to it
[12:22] <bshumate> xiaogil: no problem! hope you got yer php-gd issues settled, i think phpmyvisite it relies on gd to make fancy graphs and such.
[12:22] <clearscreen> the only error it gives is the: Error on loading blah blah
[12:22] <crimsun> visit0r: what's in the newer alsa-lib that needs to be fixed?
[12:22] <jnk> rabbit, ah do you have an icon on the desktop? if yes right-click and unmount, this should remove it from the places
[12:22] <clearscreen> no error codes, no nothing
[12:22] <deefzi> crimsun, i know. still no help
[12:22] <crimsun> vincenz: mount it with umask=022
[12:22] <vincenz> crimsun: how do I set that up with fstab
[12:22] <crimsun> deefzi: pastebin your sources.list
[12:22] <gnomefreak> clearscreen, same hd for both?
[12:22] <gillion> vincenz: man mount lookup umask
[12:22] <clearscreen> yes gnomefreak
[12:22] <speedy> crimsun, i plugged in my maxtor onetouch firewire, and nothing happened, i unloaded all 1394 related modules and loaded them back again, i want to mount my drive..
[12:22] <crimsun> vincenz: it goes in the options column
[12:22] <rabbit> jnk, oh yeah!   sweet!
[12:22] <vincenz> ah thank
[12:22] <rabbit> jnk, that's not bad..   thanks : )
[12:23] <rabbit> jnk, too many windows open : P haha
[12:23] <crimsun> speedy: are you doing this from within GNOME?
[12:23] <gnomefreak> see that happened to me i re-installed it and it worked :(
[12:23] <deefzi> crimsun, default from 5.10, but everything is unchecked except: # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:23] <visit0r> crimsun: well, alsa has this nice feature of needing the libs at least as new as the drivers to get everything to work properly... I've always had problems with it. for example now my cards works perfectly except AC3 is broken.
[12:23] <deefzi> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[12:23] <speedy> crimsun, yes
[12:23] <jnk> rabbit, :)
[12:23] <eduardo> HI I AM FROM VENEZUELA
[12:23] <Martini> Kovecses: I have a modem with Internet connection and LAN card connected via crosslink cable to another computer
[12:23] <JaZy84> okay.. can i conver ccd/img to another format then?
[12:23] <clearscreen> gnomefreak I'll go try again.. thanks for your help.. see you in 30 mins I guess
[12:23] <eduardo> IS SOME THERE
[12:23] <jnk> eduardo, can you turn off the caps please ?
[12:23] <_jason> !es
[12:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> eduardo: Hi, I have a caps lock key too, but I don't use it.
[12:23] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:23] <speedy> crimsun, terminal..
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ok clearscreen
[12:23] <clearscreen> bb
[12:23] <crimsun> speedy: reboot and plug it in again after logging in
[12:23] <deefzi> eduardo, wow. i would've thought you were from italy.
[12:23] <speedy> alright
[12:24] <vincenz> thiis won't do:/dev/sda6       /windows        vfat    umask=022       0       0
[12:24] <Kovecses> Martini, ever hear of a router lol
[12:24] <Chris_Tucker> Shadyman, perhaps you didnt read my question, as that restrictedformats page says nothing about aacPlus. only aac. i need to know how to make apps other than VLC play aacPlus (and no its not a win32codec. i have those installed.
[12:24] <crimsun> visit0r: I don't know of any changes in -lib that would fix that
[12:24] <theverant> ivman is a daemon, so do I have to set it to start at boot time?
[12:24] <deefzi> crimsun, any idea?
[12:24] <Farris1> I've got an NFS export of a RAID50 on a breezy machine, mounted (over Gigabit Ethernet) on about 40 boxes. On the local machine where the export is, disk access rates are superb. However, via NFS, they're terrible. Disk utilization shoots up to 100% with an average throughput of only 1MB/s. Any ideas what's causing this?
[12:24] <crimsun> deefzi: pastebin url?
[12:24] <deefzi> or should i _manually_ install all the true type -fonts
[12:24] <deefzi> crimsun, well... i'll put my sources.list online, 1 sec.
[12:25] <visit0r> crimsun: it's not broken... alsa just needs the lib to be as new or never than the driver...
[12:25] <plugwash> whats the reccomended way to create a ubuntu chroot on an existing debian system?
[12:25] <marlun> When trying to do /.configure in the php5 source-code directory I get the error: "configure: error: Cannot find MySQL header files under yes." and then under that it says: "Note that the MySQL client library is not bundled anymore!" Anyone who can give me some tips? =)
[12:25] <visit0r> crimsun: so if I want to upgrade my kernel to 2.6.15 (like I did), I need to get also a never -lib for everything to function properly
[12:25] <xiaogil> bshumate: yes, php-gd works fine! and now I even have php5, thanks a lot!
[12:25] <vuz> what's the command that shows you the graphic card?
[12:25] <crimsun> visit0r: that's recommended but not required
[12:26] <visit0r> crimsun: in my case it is required to get everything functionin properly, I, unfortunately, speak from experience :)
[12:26] <crimsun> visit0r: which test case?
[12:26] <jnk> vuz, lspci -v
[12:26] <bshumate> xiaogil: cool.  you should enjoy phpmyvisite, it's a nice package for checking out web analytics, and statistics! ;-)
[12:26] <Martini> Kovecses: Yes, sir! But it's too expensive for me:(
[12:27] <Steven_M> crimsun: oh ok thank you, now I understand that bit. Are there any drawbacks to running sudo -i as opposed to sudo su - ?
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: I have a SB Live! if that's what you asked.. I've had several problems with alsa previously (mostly in Debian Sid) and I've been told it's due to too old -lib and too new drivers. and they were correct.
[12:27] <crimsun> Steven_M: none
[12:27] <crimsun> visit0r: and which lib and which driver?
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: one of the problems was hardware mixing not functioning, the current problem is the AC3 passthrough device not working at all
[12:27] <Steven_M> thanks :-)
[12:27] <deefzi> crimsun, url is on /msg
[12:27] <vincenz> crimsun: it's set to defaults, how do I specify that I want users to be able to write to the partition
[12:27] <visit0r> crimsun: the driver in 2.6.15, the lib of Breezy
[12:27] <crimsun> deefzi: I don't receive msgs
[12:27] <vincenz> in fstab
[12:28] <deefzi> crimsun, well http://krokolaattori.homelinux.com/~perttu/ubuntu_sources.list
[12:28] <crimsun> visit0r: meaning a 2.6.15 kernel (1.0.10rc3)?
[12:28] <visit0r> crimsun: anyways, I'll try 2.6.14 next to see if I'm lucky and get both my remote and sound card to work :)
[12:28] <visit0r> crimsun: correct. vanilla 2.6.15.
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: everything else works now but the ac3 output :I
[12:29] <crimsun> then you've hit the one corner case.
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: so do you think 2.6.14 could work?=
[12:29] <vincenz> found it
[12:29] <visit0r> crimsun: that's the oldest one with the remote patch in it
[12:29] <deefzi> crimsun, you got that?
[12:30] <trae> crimsun, howdy ;)
[12:30] <crimsun> visit0r: no, it'd be better for you to compile dapper's alsa-lib
[12:30] <trae> crimsun, don't need anything, just saying hello.
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: but this is not the first time I've come across this too old alsa lib problem, had it for long in the past. only in that case the hardware mixing was broken.
[12:30] <trae> *chuckle*
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: 2.6.14 has the same driver?
[12:30] <deefzi> trae, ye, he's already busy helpdesking us ;-)
[12:30] <crimsun> visit0r: no, it's older
[12:30] <trae> deefzi, he's the best. :)
[12:30] <crimsun> 'lo trae
[12:30] <visit0r> crimsun: but not "old enough" to work with breezy alsa lib?
[12:30] <deefzi> lo bob!
[12:31] <crimsun> visit0r: they match (1.0.9)
[12:31] <Steven_M> thanks fluvwell and Kovecses for your help as well :-)
[12:31] <cactii> bbl
[12:31] <trae> and working...
[12:31] <trae> heh
[12:31] <crimsun> visit0r: if you want to keep your current kernel (2.6.15), you may as well compile dapper's alsa-lib on your box
[12:31] <visit0r> crimsun: thus it could actually work? I prefer installing a new kernel to installing new alsa lib because I don't know how to roll a .deb without breaking the system
[12:32] <crimsun> deefzi: sec
[12:32] <Steven_M> I have to go now, bye all
[12:32] <soundray> By Steven_M
[12:32] <soundray> *Bye
[12:32] <Shadyman> bye Steven_M
[12:32] <crimsun> visit0r: it's pretty simple. sudo apt-get build-dep libasound2
[12:32] <wizardjames> i am on a duel boot,   i reinstalled windows and it messed up my MBR.   so i had to kinda reinstall ubuntu to get it back..but now i cant access windows.     what do i do to grub to boot into windows.
[12:33] <crimsun> visit0r: then download dapper's orig.tar.gz and diff.gz, apply it, then debian/rules binary
[12:33] <mwe> !tell wizardjames about grub
[12:33] <visit0r> crimsun: alright I'll take a look at the 2.6.14 first, but thanks a lot for the help.
[12:33] <mwe> wizardjames: I believe that has some info
[12:33] <michael> what's the web adress to get into firefox configuration?
[12:33] <sethk> wizardjames, you didn't need to reinstall ubuntu
[12:33] <soundray> michael: about:config
[12:33] <jnk> michael, about:config
[12:34] <michael> ty
[12:34] <sethk> wizardjames, now, you only need to add windows to the grub configuration file
[12:34] <sethk> wizardjames, before, all you needed to do was reinstall grub
[12:34] <wizardjames> ok..
[12:34] <crimsun> deefzi: yep, exactly what I said at the beginning
[12:34] <wizardjames> so..what do i do?
[12:34] <menko> hi people... how do I install a deb package that I've downloaded? I tried dpkg, but it didn't resolve the dependencies. I'm trying to install opera.
[12:34] <deefzi> crimsun, huh?
[12:35] <mwe> wizardjames: add the windows partition to menu.lst
[12:35] <crimsun> deefzi: you don't have multiverse enabled at all for breezy. Instead you have it enabled for breezy-backports. msttcorefonts is in breezy/multiverse, not breezy-backports/multiverse.
[12:35] <jnk> menko, after trying to install with dpkg, run: apt-get -f install
[12:35] <wizardjames> ok
[12:35] <mwe> wizardjames: you know how to do that?
[12:35] <JaZy84> okay fine.. can i mound the ccd/img ?
[12:35] <menko> It gives me this error. E: Couldn't find package opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:35] <deefzi> crimsun, okay. so what's the exact line i should add?
[12:36] <crimsun> deefzi: just append multiverse to the line that reads "deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe"
[12:36] <deefzi> ok
[12:36] <crimsun> deefzi: (i.e., deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse)
[12:36] <deefzi> thank you very much
[12:36] <soundray> menko, give dpkg the full path pointing to your opera deb file.
[12:36] <wizardjames> mwe i think..hold on
[12:36] <jnk> menko, try again from the start: download  the opera deb to some directory, then "sudo dpkg -i the_deb_file.deb", then "sudo apt-get -f install"
[12:37] <mwe> wizardjames: I believe there should be at least a commented example in the file already
[12:37] <menko> ok, I'll try that, thanks
[12:37] <yggdrasil> d
[12:37] <wizardjames> ok, let me look
[12:38] <mwe> wizardjames: back it up before changing it
[12:38] <menko> E: Couldn't find package
[12:38] <menko> that's what it gives me
[12:38] <_xenex_> Anyone know any machines with a monitor I can buy prebuilt?
[12:38] <_xenex_> Anyone know any machines with a monitor I can buy prebuilt without Windows?
[12:39] <menko> dpkg -i /home/ubuntu/Desktop/opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:39] <menko>  first, then apt-get -f install /home/ubuntu/Desktop/opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb
[12:39] <soundray> menko, dpkg doesn't find the deb in the location that you've given it.
[12:39] <mwe> _xenex_: you can buy my old box
[12:39] <wizardjames> how do i backup again?
[12:39] <sethk> _xenex_, you can buy some laptops in europe without the o/s
[12:39] <_xenex_> no i want a new computer
[12:39] <_xenex_> europe is too far :P
[12:39] <soundray> menko, could you have downloaded to /home/ubuntu instead of the Desktop dir?
[12:39] <sethk> _xenex_, dell sells some machines with linux instead of windows
[12:39] <geoffrian> I am having trouble typing in a room name to join.  What is the syntax??? /join #????
[12:39] <Seveas> _xenex_, go to any nearby pc shop that builds pcs themself
[12:40] <sethk> geoffrian, right /join #ubuntu, for example
[12:40] <_xenex_> sethk: url? i couldnt find it
[12:40] <mwe> _xenex_: some stores offer custom machines and the option of not buying windows with it
[12:40] <MeanEYE> Lucent WinModem drivers, Ubuntu 5.10
[12:40] <menko> (Reading database ... 57018 files and directories currently installed.)
[12:40] <menko> Preparing to replace opera 8.51-20051114.6 (using .../opera_8.51-20051114.6-shared-qt_en_etch_i386.deb) ...
[12:40] <menko> Unpacking replacement opera ...
[12:40] <menko> dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of opera:
[12:40] <menko>  opera depends on xlib6g (>= 3.3.6) | xlibs; however:
[12:40] <menko>   Package xlib6g is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>   Package xlibs is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>  opera depends on libqt3-mt (>= 3.3.4) | libqt3c102-mt (>= 3.3.4); however:
[12:40] <menko>   Package libqt3-mt is not installed.
[12:40] <menko>   Package libqt3c102-mt is not installed.
[12:40] <menko> dpkg: error processing opera (--install):
[12:40] <menko>  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[12:40] <menko> Errors were encountered while processing:
[12:40] <_xenex_> http://www.koobox.com/multimediakoobox.php <- ive found this but i was wondering if there was better deals
[12:40] <Shadyman> !pastebin
[12:40] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:40] <menko>  opera
[12:40] <sethk> menko, so, install the missing dependencies
[12:40] <menko> that's what dpkg outputs
[12:41] <Seveas> menko, NEVER paste in here
[12:41] <JaZy84> aclocal-1.6: command not foundWARNING: `aclocal-1.6' is needed, and you do not seem to have it handy on your
[12:41] <mwe> menko: don't paste in the channel
[12:41] <gnomefreak> menko, please dont paste in here
[12:41] <JaZy84>          system.  You might have modified some files without having the
[12:41] <Seveas> EVER
[12:41] <dibblego> are there any obvious reasons why a default install would appear to be playing sound, but nothing comes out the speakers? I double-checked everything external by rebooting into windows and hearing sound come from the speakers
[12:41] <JaZy84> anyone know what the means
[12:41] <JaZy84> opps
[12:41] <JaZy84> sorry i just pated also.
[12:41] <JaZy84> i apoligize
[12:41] <sethk> JaZy84, never apologize when you didn't get caught
[12:41] <Shadyman> sethk: Bwahaha
[12:41] <JaZy84> heh
[12:41] <MeanEYE> Can anyone please tell me where can I download Lucent WinModem drivers for Ubuntu 5.10, breezy baddger?!
[12:41] <Seveas> JaZy84, install automake/autoconf/build-essential
[12:41] <Seveas> !winmodem
[12:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, winmodem is To get started with winmodems on linux, see http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/
[12:41] <Shadyman> MeanEYE: Did you try Lucent? :)
[12:42] <soundray> dibblego, perhaps the volume is turned down.
[12:42] <menko> E: Package xlib6g has no installation candidate
[12:42] <set> !upnp
[12:42] <ubotu> set: What?
[12:42] <MeanEYE> Shadyman You mean their web site?!
[12:42] <menko> it won't installl...
[12:42] <soundray> dibblego, try a mixer, like gnome volume control.
[12:42] <JaZy84> thanks Seveas
[12:42] <Seveas> menko, get the etch deb, not the "ubuntu" deb from opera, that one is broken
[12:42] <sethk> menko, why do you want opera, anyway?  It can be installed, people do it all the time
[12:42] <set> Does anyone know a mp3 player for ubuntu that can stream from a TwonkyVision mediaserver?
[12:43] <cactii> Is there a w32 codec for the Ubuntu64???
[12:43] <menko> I always used opera on Mandriva, that's why I want it...
[12:43] <Seveas> cactii, W*32*
[12:43] <Seveas> kinda says it already...
[12:43] <sethk> menko, that doesn't make much sense.  Use the deb they pointed you to
[12:43] <menko> Seveas, I'll look for the etch deb
[12:43] <dibblego> soundray, I am trying an application called 'Sound Preferences' and I have turned all Volume Controls up and I can see the 'Volum Meter' give a reading when I play a test file in 'Sound Preferences'
[12:43] <cactii> haha
[12:43] <cactii> ok
[12:43] <Farris1> Are there any known issues with stock ubuntu kernels and NFS? I'm seeing terrible performance on this particular export that I'm not seeing on my old debian box
[12:44] <mwe> cactii: but I believe there are some restricted codecs for ubuntu64 somewhere
[12:44] <menko> I can't find any etch deb on the download page.
[12:44] <soundray> dibblego, do you have more than one sound card?
[12:45] <dibblego> soundray, no, just one
[12:45] <cactii> hmmm
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, double check that both Master and PCM are not muted, and are not at zero
[12:45] <menko> Seveas, where is the etch deb?
[12:45] <dibblego> jnk, where is the master? I can see PCM under 'Volume Control'
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, maybe check that you're controlling the alsa driver (one never knows)
[12:45] <JaZy84> Seveas, after installing all those things i still get the same error about alocal.m4
[12:45] <jnk> dibblego, can you run "alsamixer" in aterminal ?
[12:46] <soundray> menko, judging by the filename you gave earlier, you already have the etch deb.
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, I'm too noob to know what that means sorry - I have 1 hour experience with Linux
[12:46] <Seveas> menko, deb.opera.com/opera somewhere...
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, yes
[12:46] <jnk> dibblego, ok, what are you using? ubuntu with gnome? kubuntu ?
[12:46] <jnk> dibblego, alsamixer is ok ?
[12:46] <dibblego> jnk, ubuntu with gnome - a simple install off the CD ISO
[12:46] <Shadyman> dibblego: Don't worry, we were all there at one point :)
[12:47] <gnomefreak> i cant believe how slow this is :(
[12:47] <jnk> dibblego, if alsamixer works, you can see the master column, and the pcm column right?
[12:47] <dibblego> I see PCM, but not master
[12:47] <menko> Seveas, in the filename of the deb I downloaded it says it's etch
[12:47] <jnk> dibblego, ok it's just a different alsa driver I guess
[12:47] <sethk> gnomefreak, h  o   w     sl  o   w     w  h   a  t     i     s    ?
[12:47] <Poignant> oO
[12:47] <Shadyman> sethk: lol
[12:47] <gnomefreak> seth xp slow
[12:48] <cactii> Can I install any Linux 64bit video codec or does it have to be written specifically for Ubuntu???
[12:48] <jnk> dibblego, well just check all columns related to output are not at zero, and that you don't  have 'MM' at the bottom (but 'OO' instead)
[12:48] <dibblego> some of them are MM, but I'm struggling to change it
[12:48] <Seveas> menko, then it's a VERY old version...
[12:48] <jnk> dibblego, type 'm' :)
[12:48] <Seveas> !tell menko about easysource
[12:48] <dibblego> oh :)
[12:49] <dibblego> I hear something!
[12:49] <Seveas> menko, visit that url to get a sources.list line for opera
[12:49] <menko> Seveas, what's an old version?
[12:49] <wizardjames> mwe,  ok,    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7159 is what it looks like..     i dont know if thats were windows is..i am unsure how to look,    i got 2 harddrives,   ..  windows is on the first partion of the frist dirve, and ubuntu is on 2ed harddrive , 1 partion..
[12:49] <jnk> dibblego, what was the column which prevented output?
[12:49] <dibblego> I am now deaf - I had all volumes turned to full
[12:49] <jnk> lol
[12:49] <Shadyman> dibblego: Bwhaha
[12:49] <dibblego> 'Front'
[12:49] <soundray> Well done jnk :)
[12:49] <jnk> yeah
[12:49] <Paradosso> I have ubuntu breezy. would like to switch to kubuntu, is there a way for me to do it painlessly?
[12:49] <dibblego> thanks very much for that - appreciated
[12:49] <Shadyman> wizardjames: First partition of first drive should be hda1
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, if windows is on the first partition of the first drive, the example in the info page for grub tells you exactly what you need to put
[12:50] <soundray> Paradosso, 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[12:50] <Blippe> Paradosso, yepp, suda apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: second har ddrive, first partition would be hdb1
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: Assumine it's IDE
[12:50] <jnk> dibblego, just wondering why you couldn't change it in the graphical interface... you opened the sound control from the panel on top of the screen right?
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, for grub, the first partition of the first drive is (0,0)
[12:50] <wizardjames> Shadyman,  , i use sata,   ubuntu sees it as scsi.
[12:50] <Blippe> Paradosso, i misspelled listen to soundray
[12:50] <mwe> wizardjames: then back up the file. then remove the # in front of the four linus in the windows example
[12:50] <Paradosso> many thanks soundray Blippe
[12:50] <sethk> wizardjames, doesn't matter, for grub it is (0,0)
[12:50] <Shadyman> wizardjames: That'd be different then :)
[12:50] <cactii> Can I install any Linux 64bit video codec or does it have to be written specifically for Ubuntu???
[12:51] <Blippe> cactii, i would advice against it... but try!
[12:51] <wizardjames> ok sethk  i will update grub with the new info and reboot
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: know what I'm talking about?
[12:51] <soundray> cactii, you can install any 64bit codec, but they are hard to come by.
[12:51] <Machiavelli|> hi, I just installed ubuntu but I cannot start X, how can I debug it to get it fixed?
[12:51] <dibblego> jnk, yes I did, but it had slightly different options
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: just uncomment what I told you
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: after backing up the file
[12:51] <soundray> cactii, your best bet is to set up a 32bit chroot environment.
[12:51] <wizardjames> mwe,  yeah,   i just copyed it and moved it down ..  and changed the name
[12:51] <mwe> wizardjames: good
[12:52] <Paradosso> may I uninstall GNOME after that Blippe ?
[12:52] <jnk> dibblego, can you check if you can change the device in the File menu of this sound control dialog?
[12:52] <mwe> wizardjames: the remove the # in front of the 4 lines in the windows example
[12:52] <cactii> oh man...this is difficult...
[12:52] <mkyb14> how do i enable linux-restricted-modules package... i have it listed in synaptic!
[12:52] <sethk> Paradosso, unless you have some severe need for disk space, don't uninstall gnome
[12:52] <mwe> wizardjames: the space at the beginning as well
[12:52] <dibblego> maybe it is the 'Change Device' that I should have used
[12:52] <wizardjames> mwe,  , i just copyed it and pasted it down below,   removing the #.  thats ok?
[12:52] <soundray> mwe, won't they be in the wrong place?
[12:52] <wizardjames> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7159 is what it looks like
[12:52] <Paradosso> why, sethk ?
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, all risk, no gain
[12:53] <jnk> mkyb14, can't you just install it like any other package?
[12:53] <mwe> wizardjames: yeah. I'd make a copy of the file first though
[12:53] <wizardjames> i did
[12:53] <Paradosso> how much disk space is gnome?
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, you need a reason to do something dangerous, not a reason to not do something dangerous
[12:53] <mwe> soundray: what?
[12:53] <mkyb14> i dunno... i just enabled the repository.. is that mean its installed?
[12:53] <jnk> dibblego, yes, if you can choose between OSS and alsa you should choose alsa
[12:53] <dibblego> jnk, there seems to be more options in alsamixer than 'Volume Control'
[12:53] <Paradosso> I dunno why it's dangerous
[12:53] <sethk> Paradosso, unlikely to be enough to make it worth uninstalling.  how much space do you have?
[12:53] <soundray> mwe, the grub lines for booting Windows.
[12:54] <Paradosso> 3.5 GB on the ubuntu partition
[12:54] <sethk> Paradosso, the reason there is a separate kubuntu install disk is that things are not as simple as you are imagining.
[12:54] <mwe> soundray: I think not. before the automatic kernel list
[12:54] <dibblego> alsamixer has: Headphone, PCM, Front, Front Mic, Surround, Center, LFE, Line
[12:54] <jnk> dibblego, in the volume control you can choose what to display in Edit -> Preferences
[12:54] <mwe> soundray: isn't that correct?
[12:54] <sethk> Paradosso, well, 3.5 gig actually probably is small enough to make it worth uninstalling
[12:54] <Paradosso> hehe
[12:54] <mwe> wizardjames: paste the new file before rebooting
[12:54] <Machiavelli|> can anybody
[12:54] <sethk> Machiavelli|, no
[12:54] <Paradosso> when is dapper set to be out?
[12:54] <Machiavelli|> guide me to where I can find help about X problem
[12:54] <dibblego> Volume Control has: Volume, Speaker, Line-in, Microphone, CD, PCM-2, In-gain (with all options selected in Edit->Preferences)
[12:54] <soundray> mwe, I've never tried -- always put them after. Looking at it, they should work just as well, however.
[12:54] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[12:54] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[12:54] <jnk> mkyb14, no it means you have access to packages there, if you want you can install them now
[12:55] <dibblego> wait, I think I am giving you false information
[12:55] <mwe> soundray: I think it should
[12:55] <Paradosso> maybe I'll switch to kubuntu when dapper is out
[12:55] <jnk> dibblego, and can you change device from the file menu?
[12:55] <dibblego> in AlsaMixer, the Chip field is set to "Realtek ALC880"
[12:55] <gnomefreak> and if im not mistaken thats what its set for may not be that date
[12:55] <mkyb14> so if i have the linux-restricted-modules package listed in my repositories.. does that mean that the restricted modules are installed
[12:55] <mwe> soundray: and also putting windows outside the automatic kernels section seems to make sense to me
[12:56] <soundray> mwe, that's what I mean, but I put them after the "END" line.
[12:56] <jnk> mkyb14, no, but it means you can install them, just select the package for installation and apply the changes
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: oh
[12:56] <cactii> XviD has a amd64 Linux 64bit port... does anybody know if this is any good???
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: yeah or berfore begin. same effect I guess
[12:56] <dibblego> if I set the device to "HDA Intel (Alsa Mixer) in the Volume Control, and turn on Edit -> Preferences, then it appears to be pretty muc hthe same
[12:56] <soundray> mwe, never mind, we'll find out if it hasn't worked.
[12:56] <mwe> soundray: yeah :)
[12:56] <mkyb14> hm i don't know which ones apply to ati 9800
[12:57] <sethk> gnomefreak, gnome is a bit lighter than kde, not dramatically, though
[12:57] <jnk> dibblego, so you still don't have a control for Front ?
[12:57] <sorush20> anyone here using showimg?
[12:57] <dibblego> jnk, yes I do now thanks
[12:57] <jnk> dibblego, ok :)
[12:57] <gnomefreak> sethk, true but if hes worried about disk space that much stick with gnome or use xubuntu :)
[12:57] <mwe> soundray: I told him to paste the file before rebooting though. but he seems to have missed it
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, go for the best option..... console only   ;)
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> who needs x?
[12:58] <KoruptPryde> :)
[12:58] <sethk> gnomefreak, I don't disagree
[12:58] <gnomefreak> lol KoruptPryde its always good to have X use console to fall back on
[12:58] <soundray> gnomefreak, good one :)
[12:58] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:58] <Machiavelli|> I know no linux commands so X is a good start for me
[12:58] <Dead_Letter> :(   no ubuntu for sparc
[12:59] <Machiavelli|> would like to get X working ...
[12:59] <Paradosso> I'm not concerned with disk space, I have a 20G shared partition for data
[12:59] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's the problem?
[12:59] <Paradosso> I am concerned with the fact that kde seems better than gnome for me
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Machiavelli|, i will always advise newbies to linux to use X while they get to know the commands
[12:59] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, my server is headless..... works quite nice that way
[12:59] <Machiavelli|> well, I just installed ubuntu, at end of installation I got error message that X could not load
[12:59] <Farris1> Regarding my NFS problem: I'm also seeing unusually high system load averages. Has anyone at all had these kinds of performance problems with NFS on a breezy system?
[12:59] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, just as long as they don't use xorg as a crutch
[01:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[01:00] <soundray> Machiavelli|, any more detailed error info?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> KoruptPryde, true they need to use the terminal or its just like windows (in a way_
[01:00] <jnk> Paradosso, well if you prefer KDE by all means use it, that's what kubuntu is made for
[01:00] <vincenz> Anyone know what libraries I need to get sound from a movie with totem
[01:00] <vincenz> it works fine on my desktop
[01:00] <Machiavelli|> I can not find or open it
[01:00] <vincenz> but not on my laptop
[01:00] <KoruptPryde> gnomefreak, *shudder*
[01:00] <vincenz> I installed totem-xine cause totem-gstreamer wouldn't play it, but I'm not getting sound
[01:00] <firebird> you're lucky Machiavelli, all I could do when it attempted to start X was reset :p
[01:00] <Shadyman> ubotu tell vincenz about restrictedformats
[01:00] <soundray> Machiavelli|, are you IRC'ing on a separate machine?
[01:00] <meepy> Anyone can tell me why my BMP player suddenly stops playing when my CPU reaches 100% in a few seconds? It's a little annoying to have to click play again.. Thanks
[01:00] <mwe> soundray: just noticed a comment in menu.lst
[01:00] <mwe> soundray: # Put static boot stanzas before and/or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST
[01:01] <Machiavelli|> yes, and only one screen and keyboard
[01:01] <KoruptPryde> meepy, sounds like a sound daemon issue
[01:01] <soundray> mwe, ah, cool :)
[01:01] <KoruptPryde> meepy, but don't quote me on that
[01:01] <meepy> KoruptPryde: Hmm okay, you got any idea on how to solve?
[01:01] <Machiavelli|> I will try to get other screen, keyboard to get the ubuntu system next to me
[01:02] <Stormx2> I've completely given up on apache 2 ever working on this machine again :(
[01:02] <KoruptPryde> meepy, not the slightest..... I'd try other sound intensive programs and see if you can reproduce the same effect....... narrow down the possible causes
[01:02] <anamaria> any program in ubuntu similar with dc++?
[01:02] <jnk> Machiavelli|, you cannot use the console after the system has booted?
[01:02] <meepy> KoruptPryde: Okay, thanks. I look into it
[01:02] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's your video card?
[01:03] <vincenz> Great thanks :)
[01:03] <vincenz> wow, I love ubuntu, the support with the bot is great :)
[01:03] <anamaria> any program in ubuntu similar with dc++?
[01:03] <vincenz> and the wiki pages are very well documented and everything works
[01:03] <mwe> anamaria: dc-gui
[01:04] <vincenz> anamaria: gtk-gnutella
[01:04] <anamaria> and a link?
[01:04] <mwe> anamaria: I think there's a dc++ version for linux somewhere too though
[01:04] <anamaria> to get it?
[01:04] <hippie23> I still cant get my $%$%! nvidia video card working
[01:04] <mwe> anamaria: sudo apt-get install dc-gui
[01:04] <Kovecses> anamaria, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[01:05] <Kovecses> whats dc-gui?
[01:05] <Martini> Is it possible to map network (UBUNTU) drive in WindowsXP?
[01:05] <mwe> anamaria: or rather sudo apt-get install dcgui
[01:05] <gnomefreak> the least it could have done was warn me :(
[01:05] <mwe> Kovecses: direct connect for linux
[01:05] <hippie23> I just did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop........ long download
[01:05] <anamaria> ok
[01:05] <anamaria> i'll try both
[01:05] <ulaas> Martini, share it in ubuntu.
[01:06] <anamaria> nut the latest version?
[01:06] <adub> hello i still do not have java working in mozilla/firefox though i installed it
[01:06] <Kovecses> hippie23, kubuntu-desktop installs all of kde ... do yes it is pretty big
[01:06] <joruss> anyone good with wifi cards? Got an orinoco card it's detected, but won't grab an IP from my router.
[01:06] <firebird> wow... I applied another theme and Synaptic dissappeared while it was in the middle of a download...
[01:06] <mwe> anamaria: ?
[01:07] <soundray> firebird, not to worry, it'll pick up where it left off.
[01:07] <Kovecses> adub, you must make a symbolic link
[01:07] <firebird> kay :)
[01:07] <hippie23> its still running.... been about 20 min
[01:07] <jnk> joruss, does your router use encryption?
[01:07] <hippie23> and im on 4meg cable!
[01:07] <joruss> yep
[01:08] <soundray> Machiavelli|, what's your video card?
[01:08] <marlun> how do I make "find" find only executables named apache2? If I do find -name 'apache' it finds more then executables.
[01:08] <Machiavelli|> Ive installed it on a hp dx5150, let me look up gc for that
[01:08] <cactii> How can I enable my C compiler to be able to create executables in Ubuntu???
[01:08] <joruss> I set the encryption level. For some reason I see my wifi card on the router, but the dhclient states it doesn't get an ip.
[01:08] <Machiavelli|> video card: ATI RADEON XPRESS 200 chipset met gentegreerde ATI RADEON 9600 video
[01:08] <gnomefreak> cactii, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:09] <soundray> Machiavelli|, you should follow the instructions that ubotu will tell you about:
[01:09] <soundray> ubotu: tell Machiavelli| about ati
[01:09] <cactii> thanks
[01:09] <jnk> cactii, you should just install the c compiler :) (that's gcc)
[01:10] <adub> Kovecses wehre is the java to symlink ln -s   dont know where it is
[01:10] <gnomefreak> jnk, i dont know what hes compiling :)
[01:10] <hippie23> how about getting openGL to work?... seens to have trouble, does it require a good video card?
[01:10] <joruss> jnk, has there been known issues with WEP encryption?
[01:10] <hippie23> im running intel i815 video now
[01:11] <Machiavelli|> thanks for links, I will try that, first find a second network cable to connect it to my router :)
[01:11] <hippie23> considering that my geforce4 flat refuses to run in linux
[01:11] <Kovecses> adub, link libjavaplugin_oji.so to the firefox plugins directory
[01:11] <jnk> joruss, well beside the fact that it's too easy to crack, some drivers can cause problems yes
[01:12] <jnk> joruss, anyway if you have problems setting up the connection you should first try without encryption (and without hiding the SSID of the router)
[01:12] <valberg> hmm... i can't get apache2 :S
[01:12] <Kovecses> hippie23, you didnt try hard enough
[01:12] <valberg> it says file not found...
[01:13] <valberg> anywhere else i can find it ?
[01:13] <mwe> marlun: find -name 'apache' -perm +111
[01:13] <ZarathustraDK> Hey again. Good news, I got sound on my tvtuner, bad news, it's all static noise. Is there a way to correct this?
[01:13] <nbound> hippie23, if ur using amd64 opengl tends not to work
[01:13] <nbound> hence why i dropped back to i386
[01:14] <hippie23> amd64?... I wish... this is only a p3 system
[01:14] <nbound> ohhhh
[01:14] <nbound> well as long as ur not using the crappy vesa drivers... you should have opengl
[01:14] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, have you got a picture?
[01:14] <ZarathustraDK> Yep
[01:14] <gnomefreak> hippie23, amd64 in linux world means one thing you can only run half the apps a i386 user can :)
[01:15] <hippie23> how do I check to see what driver im using?
[01:15] <jariep1__> do i need to remove GPL java before install ing Sun Java?
[01:15] <Kovecses> jariep1__, no
[01:15] <gnomefreak> gpl?
[01:15] <jariep1__> ok
[01:15] <hippie23> I would love to get my hands on an AMD optron or a PPC G5 system
[01:15] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, you may have the wrong TV standard set. If you're in Denmark (?), I think you want PAL/BG instead of PAL/I.
[01:15] <gnomefreak> thats a license
[01:15] <jariep1__> sorry
[01:16] <brimstone_> Can anyone point me to an Nvidia graphics driver how to?
[01:16] <Machiavelli|> how can I get my exact kernel version?
[01:16] <Kovecses> !nvidia
[01:16] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:16] <burn_> Machiavelli|, uname -r
[01:16] <Machiavelli|> thx
[01:16] <jariep1__> i meant the open source java that's instqalled in ubuntu
[01:16] <brimstone_> Sweet! Thanks!
[01:16] <Martini> Is there an address I can get SAMBA because I haven't UBUNTU Installation disc with me?
[01:16] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, the difference is the frequency offset for the audio broadcast.
[01:16] <nbound> brimstone_, the one in synaptic is much easier
[01:16] <gnomefreak> jariep1__, after you install java you want to run sudo update-alternative --config java to use the new java instead of the glc or gcl or whaterver it is
[01:16] <hippie23> how do I chec what video driver im using?
[01:16] <mwe> Machiavelli|: uname -a
[01:17] <marlun> Weird, I've got a apache2 in /etc/apache2, /usr/lib/apache2, /usr/sbin/apache2, /usr/local/apache2 and I've only installed the last one myself (from source-code), are they all different intallations of apache2?
[01:17] <ZarathustraDK> Wow, now that's sound :)
[01:17] <Telemachus> Machiavelli: type uname -r in a terminal
[01:17] <burn_> ive no sound with this card:
[01:17] <burn_> Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW
[01:17] <burn_> the Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRWright module seems to be loaded
[01:17] <ZarathustraDK> It works! You just saved my day
[01:17] <hippie23> thats what im using, my sound works great
[01:17] <burn_> alsamixer can tweack components of it
[01:17] <burn_> but no sound
[01:18] <brimstone_> Synaptic?
[01:18] <soundray> ZarathustraDK, glad I could help.
[01:18] <burn_> hippie23, you have the same?
[01:18] <deefzi> does anyone have good dual-booting tutorial for grub?
[01:18] <Chris_Tucker> well, this sucks. every player i find for linux that plays aacPlus streams has an error in it somewhere... vlc.. ugly and not a nice gui at all. winamp (under wine) stops playing after a few seconds.. lamip, complains it cant open the url, and gmerlin wont compile.
[01:18] <Kovecses> burn_, download alsa-utils from there website.. unpack into your home directory
[01:18] <keeganX> How do I change my sound from 4 channel to 5 channel using ALSA?
[01:18] <soundray> deefzi, ubotu does
[01:18] <hippie23> yes... it works just fine
[01:18] <gnomefreak> deefzi, yes install windows than install ubuntu :)
[01:18] <deefzi> i would need to check how the numbering of hd's goes
[01:18] <burn_> hippie23, very odd
[01:18] <soundray> ubotu, tell deefzi about grub
[01:18] <meepy> Chris_Tucker: Have you tried MPLAYER with a diffrent theme?
[01:18] <deefzi> gnomefreak, check, check.
[01:18] <nbound> brimstone_, ubuntu's package getting thingy
[01:18] <burn_> this is a new alienware area-51 m770
[01:18] <burn_> lappy
[01:19] <Martini> Is there an address I can get SAMBA because I haven't UBUNTU Installation disc with me?
[01:19] <Machiavelli|> Ow, I just realized I installed the PC (Intel x86) Ubuntu version and the HP dx5150 I install on has AMD64 athlon, could that be the problem?
[01:19] <Chris_Tucker> meepy, does mplayer play aacplus?
[01:19] <ZarathustraDK> Thank you so much :D 3 cheers to you
[01:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell brimstone_ about synaptic
[01:19] <deefzi> soundray, *bows*
[01:19] <brimstone_> nbound, Sweet. Thanks! Again!
[01:19] <soundray> deefzi, it's always the N-1 from hdaN
[01:19] <joruss> jnk, should my wireless be showing up as eth0? Running on a tablet with no other nic except wireless.
[01:19] <Kovecses> burn_, then run /home/you/alsa-utils/alsaconf/alsaconf.in
[01:19] <nbound> Machiavelli|, no
[01:19] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: mplayer plays just about anything with the right codecs installed
[01:19] <Corey_> Hey! Wow, Neat, there's... a lot of people in here.
[01:19] <Machiavelli|> so it should work with that version?
[01:20] <nbound> Machiavelli|, im running the i386 version on my AMD64 just coz its more compatible with everything
[01:20] <soundray> Machiavelli|, yes.
[01:20] <Chris_Tucker> mve thats the thing, if the right codecs were installed, xmms, amarok, and kaffeine would play it too
[01:20] <jnk> joruss, not necessarily, it depends on the driver
[01:20] <gnomefreak> ill brb im gonna put my foot threw this pos and pray i dont hurt the ubuntu drive :(
[01:20] <burn_> Kovecses, getting
[01:20] <jnk> joruss, it can be wlan0, ath0, etc...
[01:20] <burn_> Kovecses, is there no deb for this>
[01:20] <burn_> ?
[01:20] <bina> if I do apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop will it only get rid of gnome?
[01:20] <jariep1__> what is the java package at seveas repository called?
[01:20] <flogiston> i've got problems with starting/stopping samba
[01:20] <flogiston> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7160
[01:20] <Corey_> ( wow, and everyone here is nice, helpful and nerdy - i'm in heaven )
[01:20] <joruss> jnk, oh, I had always seen it as wlan0 so I wasn't too sure.
[01:20] <nbound> joruss, usually wlan0
[01:20] <Kovecses> burn_, you dont need to install anything ... you just need that script
[01:20] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: if they're using it. some players wont play everything just because the codec is somewhere
[01:20] <firebird> lol corey
[01:20] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[01:20] <ubotu> ubuntu-desktop is probably a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[01:21] <nbound> Corey_, lol, u'll pick it up real quick and wonder why u ever needed us :P
[01:21] <hippie23> burn, actually its a lil different ---> 82801BA/BAM AC'97 Audio
[01:21] <hippie23> its till a 82801
[01:21] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: there seems to be a lack of centralization
[01:21] <Martini> Is there a way with sudo commands get SAMBA from Internet, not Installation CD?
[01:21] <bina> gnomefreak: in that case I think i may as well keep it :) thanks
[01:21] <bina> i keep forgetting ubotu
[01:21] <Chris_Tucker> mve, meepy, it seems mplayer doesnt like playing urls.
[01:21] <WalrusU> Level 6 noob with 83exp. Why isn't sudo kill <pid> working? The process still keeps on going.
[01:22] <nbound> hippie23, isnt AC97 audio auto-detected?
[01:22] <Kovecses> Martini, comment out the cd line in  /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:22] <keeganX> Anyone know how I can get 5 channel sound instead of 4 channel?
[01:22] <mwe> Chris_Tucker: but nothing will play it without the right codec
[01:22] <nbound> !tell Chris_Tucker about multimedia
[01:23] <jariep1__> how do i ask ubotu about java?
[01:23] <Chris_Tucker> mve, which seems impossible to find, i have found some apps that have the aacplus codecs with them, but one says "cannot open url" (appears to be thinking the http:// is in ./) and the other has a make error.
[01:23] <nbound> !java
[01:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jariep1__ about java
[01:23] <Kovecses> !java
[01:23] <ubuntu> hi can someone help me getting resoltion higher than 1024X768
[01:23] <burn_> son of a bitch
[01:23] <WalrusU> Does Ubuntu disable the kill command or something?
[01:23] <Corey_> Okay, I have a... long query.
[01:23] <burn_> KoruptPryde, thanks that did it!
[01:23] <burn_> oops
[01:23] <Corey_> Hah, I need mine at a LOWER resolution! :D
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, i mean, thank you
[01:23] <Kovecses> burn_, it worked
[01:23] <soundray> !tell ubuntu about fixres
[01:23] <bshumate> WalrusU: you may need to kill with extreme force, e.g. kill -9 <pid>    also, check the status of the process, with ps, if it is Z, it is a zombie process, and cannot be killed by conventional means
[01:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Corey_ about fixres
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, strange, that script runs on slackware by default
[01:23] <nbound> ubuntu, enable it in youll need to reconfigure x
[01:23] <KoruptPryde> burn_, I was wondering.... lol
[01:23] <burn_> Kovecses, yes it works perfect
[01:23] <menko> hey, what's a good program for editing services? The services under administration doesn't seem to have all of them
[01:24] <mwe> !fixres
[01:24] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:24] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:24] <Kovecses> burn_, yeah they dont include it in ubuntu ... for some reason
[01:24] <jared_> i got a new linksys wireless router with a cisco systems security thing, and i set it up and i can't get it to work, i had to go to my old router just to connect, it says i am connected but then i try to go somewhere i can't
[01:24] <Pygi> huh, freaky :P
[01:24] <burn_> thats odd
[01:24] <mwe> menko: update-rc.d
[01:24] <gnomefreak> hello Pygi
[01:24] <hippie23> wierd... my sound was working... until I installed kubuntu-desktop
[01:24] <burn_> Kovecses, i got this laptop yesterday for work
[01:24] <Chris_Tucker> nbound, well that was useless.. it says nothing there about aacplus!
[01:24] <hippie23> now I have no sound
[01:24] <gnomefreak> brb winblowz wants me to reboot again :(
[01:24] <burn_> i cannot believe how well ubuntu runs on it
[01:24] <sethk> hippie23, then it has to be your sound server config
[01:24] <KoruptPryde> jared_........ I might be able to help..... perhaps we should discuss in a seperate channel?
[01:25] <cactii> mpeg codec for 64bit????
[01:25] <sethk> hippie23, kde uses a different sound server
[01:25] <jared_> one moment
[01:25] <WalrusU> bshumate: Oh okay. I never knew there were levels to kill. Something else to add to my notes. Thanks
[01:25] <Kovecses> bbl
[01:25] <menko> mwe, thanks!
[01:25] <bshumate> WalrusU: no problem, check out man kill for more information
[01:25] <cactii> I installed the Xvid 64bit port... workds great for .mov files.
[01:25] <hippie23> im still using gnome, I havent rebooted, the install ended about 5 min ago
[01:25] <rabbit> Is it possible to print 'double sided'  somehow??   I tried "Duplex" in the config (I don't know what "Tumble" means)  I am using a network printer HP laserJet1012 and you need to manually rotate the paper and put it back in the tray when doing double sided..   is it possible to do double sided???
[01:25] <ki4ikl> KoruptPryde i pmed you
[01:25] <hippie23> brb... im gonna reboot
[01:26] <mwe> menko: I'd recommend reading the manual page though
[01:26] <KoruptPryde> ki4ikl, I got it... but I'm not authenticated.... can't remember my password and they don't have a recover option
[01:26] <deefzi> soundray, not much of a help those tutorials :I
[01:26] <soundray> rabbit, it depends on the application. Some allow you to print only even or only odd pages.
[01:26] <ki4ikl> Korupt what channel would you like to join
[01:26] <Delvien> Hey guys minor problem. reinstalled windows , reinstalled grub, now grub wont boot windows... anyone run into this? i select to boot windows and it sends me directly to grub again
[01:26] <jnk> rabbit, I guess you first print odd pages, then even pages in this case
[01:26] <Corey_> ubotu is a bot, isn't he?
[01:26] <ubotu> Corey_: I don't know
[01:26] <Corey_> I'm an idiot.
[01:26] <mwe> Delvien: fix menu.lst
[01:27] <soundray> deefzi, okay, what do you want to fix?
[01:27] <Corey_> A rather sophisticated one, at least...
[01:27] <mwe> Delvien: paste it on pastebin if you don't know how
[01:27] <jnk> rabbit, or you mean it's a problem with ubuntu, not the printer?
[01:27] <ki4ikl> KoruptidPryde what channel do you wish to join?
[01:27] <mkyb14_> uhh problem.  i'm installing the ati drivers and the screen doesn't fit my monitor and i can't see far enough down even moving the screen to diff resolutions to hit the ok button.  anyone know how to remedy this?
[01:28] <rabbit> jnk,  I just don't see a way to print odd/even pages seperately..   (I'm testing with gedit)
[01:28] <Delvien> mwe http://pastebin.com/506106
[01:28] <Corey_> mkyb14 - same problem as me!
[01:28] <Seveas> mkyb14, hold alt pressed while dragging the window
[01:28] <mkyb14_> ok one sec
[01:28] <menko> hi, I managed to install opera by adding those sources. When I start it though it gives me this error: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'.
[01:28] <menko> /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[01:28] <menko> Please install Motif.
[01:28] <deefzi> soundray, i need to know how do the numbering goes? i want my windows 2000 booted from slave-hardware, which is on the same cable - ide-1
[01:28] <rabbit> soundray, yeah odd/even seperately would work..   thanks for the idea
[01:28] <nbound> should be hdb1
[01:28] <deefzi> soundray, so what's the number i put on root
[01:29] <mkyb14_> yep that worked
[01:29] <deefzi> ubotu, it is. but is it hd(1,0) or what?
[01:29] <ubotu> deefzi: what are you talking about?
[01:29] <moodsoft> hi all, I have my Ubuntu system running now, now I would like it not to automatically run X when I start. for Ubuntu how do I change the inittab file to make this happen?
[01:29] <hippie23> wierd
[01:29] <nbound> deefzi, first partition on slave drive on primary channel = hdb1
[01:29] <mwe> Delvien: it looks good, asuming windows is on the primary disk on the first ide and the first partition, /dev/hda1 usually
[01:29] <deefzi> oh wait...
[01:29] <Seveas> deefzi, ubotu is a bot..
[01:29] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:29] <hippie23> sound is back now
[01:29] <soundray> deefzi, most likely it's (hd1,0)
[01:29] <Corey_> Took me until just now to figure that out, too, deefzi, don't worry.
[01:29] <deefzi> whats the root then?
[01:29] <hippie23> skype must have hylacked the sound server
[01:29] <jnk> rabbit, then it's really stupid.. you should report a bug :)
[01:29] <gnomefreak> moodsoft, default install should start x on boot
[01:29] <sethk> moodsoft, unless you did something strange, that's the default behavior
[01:30] <keeganX> How do I get 5.1 sound instead of 4.1 sound on my Ubuntu?
[01:30] <Delvien> mwe i cant mount the windows partition either.. which is wierd ( its sda1 because its sata and its a laptop)
[01:30] <Martini> Kovecses: Thanks for support
[01:30] <deefzi> Seveas & Corey_, :-)
[01:30] <deefzi> soundray, okay. then makeactive & chainloader +1, what are they for?
[01:30] <mwe> Delvien: sound b0rked
[01:30] <Corey_> Alright, I need help. I'm a complete Linux noob, just recently got a Mac. I love it. I'm running Virtual PC 7, and have gotten Mandrake to run satisfactorily on it along with XP *shudder* and a couple other Windows versions. I created a virtual drive and got Ubuntu to install (after 5 hours ;_;), but it defaulted to too high of a resolution for my teeny PowerBook, so all I see are strange stripes - it's running! I just can't see shit. >.< Any
[01:30] <Delvien> mwe i booted to windows after i installed it, then shut down installed grub.. gave me a wierd text about XFS file system
[01:31] <rabbit> jnk, about gedit really?!   I can just copy paste into openoffice writer  ; )
[01:31] <mwe> Delvien: oh that sounds bad
[01:31] <Seveas> Corey_, virtual PC is not supported and known to cause such problems
[01:31] <moodsoft> I know that is default, but I want to change it, I don't want it to happen anymore
[01:31] <soundray> deefzi, for booting Windows :) It's always worked for me, so I never wondered much about the detail of it.
[01:31] <Corey_> Blast!
[01:31] <hippie23> yeah.. I want to know how to mount my windowsXP drive.... I have a ton of mp3's on that thing, I want to be able to play them in linux
[01:31] <Delvien> mwe and said it could ignore it, then booted to linux, and just now tried windows again
[01:31] <rabbit> jnk,  lemme see if I can figure this one out.......
[01:31] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:31] <Seveas> !windowsdrives
[01:31] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, windowsdrives is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions or see http://tinyurl.com/bly9f
[01:31] <Corey_> But it installed just fine! I can watch it boot and its command line is just dandy!
[01:31] <deefzi> soundray, okay. i'm gonna choke your cat if this doesn't work. ;D
[01:31] <nbound> Corey_, u could use the PPC version of ubuntu
[01:31] <Corey_> *sigh* Oh well, it was worth a shot anyways.
[01:31] <KoruptidPryde> Corey_, I can recommend some things... but they are a bit out of the perview of *n00bness*
[01:31] <deefzi> soundray, and my data splash in to bit universe
[01:32] <bryanl> just curious... what are some of your favorite gnome apps?
[01:32] <Seveas> !tell KoruptidPryde about noob
[01:32] <soundray> deefzi, shall I send you my cat now?
[01:32] <Corey_> I did - the Mac version wouldn't even mount within VPc, so I used the Windows version.
[01:32] <mwe> Delvien: I'd try booting the windows cd and run fixboot and fixmbr from the recovery console. then reinstall grub
[01:32] <Corey_> It installed just fine.
[01:32] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:32] <jnk> rabbit, it's the gnome printing which is broken
[01:32] <SuperSam> how do i extract a .tgz to "/" in console under root priveledges?
[01:32] <deefzi> soundray, shove it in your rj-45 and dcc it to me
[01:32] <jariep1__> what is the name of the Sun Java package in Seveas repository?
[01:32] <deefzi> soundray, i long for some feet-warming
[01:32] <Machiavelli|> euh, does ubuntu has a default root password, I do not remember I had to type one during installation, just a normal user
[01:32] <mwe> Delvien: after verifying windows is working of course
[01:33] <soundray> deefzi, will /bin/cat be good enough?
[01:33] <Seveas> jariep1__, why don't you visit it and see for yourself :)
[01:33] <gnomefreak> Machiavelli|, default password is the user password
[01:33] <Delvien> mwe okie thanks.,.
[01:33] <Blippe> jariep1__, why not just search for sun in synaptic?
[01:33] <Delvien> ill be back :P
[01:33] <SuperSam> no machiavelli| use sudo -i in console
[01:33] <deefzi> soundray, :-/
[01:33] <bshumate> !tell Machiavelli| about root
[01:33] <vuez> what's the most secured kernel or perhaps newest?
[01:33] <deefzi> soundray, i had so high expectations.
[01:33] <Seveas> vuez stop repeating
[01:33] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas,  he said it... not me   :P
[01:33] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12-10
[01:33] <vuez> no answer :/
[01:33] <Seveas> everyday there's a new kernel, they're all about as secure as each other
[01:33] <vuez> Not this vanilla?
[01:34] <soundray> deefzi, back to the commands: you can use them generically to boot another boot loader installed in the boot section of a partition.
[01:34] <mwe> !tell vuez about patience
[01:34] <jnk> joruss, is your wireless connection working now?
[01:34] <gnomefreak> vuez, the latest stable ubuntu kernel is 2.6.12-10
[01:34] <vuez> thanks
[01:34] <deefzi> soundray, du-uh?
[01:34] <jariep1__> Seveas, why is the directory listing for the java packages not working athttp://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl
[01:34] <Machiavelli|> supersam> I did sudi -i but what am I supposed to type in now?
[01:34] <xenon_> i'm looking for the kernel source? where is it placed in the ubuntu file hiearchy? My /usr/src is empty
[01:34] <jnk> xenon_, you have to install the package
[01:34] <hippie23> im running 2.6
[01:34] <deefzi> soundray, the chainloader & makeactive thingies?
[01:34] <KoruptidPryde> Machiavelli|, you mean sudo?   :)
[01:35] <rabbit> jnk, genome printing is broken? how?
[01:35] <jariep1__> Seveas, it says forbidden
[01:35] <hippie23> I was running fedora core 1 befor ubuntu.... 2.4 kernels suck
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, you mean like grub handles the control over to windows' MBR?
[01:35] <jnk> rabbit, if you can't print only odd or even pages
[01:35] <xenon_> jnk, thanks
[01:35] <SuperSam> your user password Machiavelli|
[01:35] <_jason> jariep1__, I think seveas needs to give you access
[01:35] <SuperSam> that gives you root priv
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, sorry, the MBR of the hd in what my windows2k is
[01:35] <deefzi> soundray, you figured?
[01:35] <jariep1__> oh, ok sorry
[01:35] <menko>  hi, I managed to install opera by adding those sources. When I start it though it gives me this error: Could not start plug-in executable 'operamotifwrapper'. /usr/lib/opera/plugins/operamotifwrapper-3
[01:35] <menko>  Please install Motif.
[01:35] <soundray> deefzi, not MBR, but the boot code that Windows dropped in its own partition.
[01:35] <Seveas> jariep1__, interesting, that would be a bug....
[01:35] <nbound> how do i add my extra programs to the menus in ubuntu?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> couldnt he just enable Seveas  repo?
[01:35] <moodsoft> anyone?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> menko, sudo apt-get openoffice-motif
[01:35] <Corey_> Alright, here's a question - can I change the resolution within ubuntu blindly using nothing but keystrokes? The UI is intact, it just isn't rendering right because the resolution is just too high (according to various VPC error messages when I try to view it full screen)
[01:36] <keeganX> How do I get 5.1 sound instead of 4.1 sound on my Ubuntu? thanks.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> install even
[01:36] <deefzi> soundray, alright. i think i'll give this a shot.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> or open synaptic and search for it
[01:36] <soundray> Corey_, try Ctrl-Alt-Keypad+
[01:36] <menko> thanks gnomefreak, I'll try that when I've finished dling the kernel
[01:36] <jariep1__> ok i'm a bit new to Ubuntu
[01:36] <_jason> gnomefreak, I don't I think I remember someone having that same problem and Seveas said he needed to give him access for it... I could be wrong though
[01:36] <Seveas> _jason, that was a long time ago :)
[01:36] <limer> anyone familiar with webcalendar?  I can't seem to access it in the browser as I don't know where/what to specify
[01:36] <nbound> keeganX, try using drivers provided by ur sound card manufacturer
[01:36] <attroja> Hm, is there anyway that I can add a terminal option to the menu when I right click the desktop?
[01:36] <Seveas> before there were mirrors
[01:36] <gnomefreak> _jason, i dont know
[01:36] <_jason> Seveas, ah true
[01:37] <hippie23> ewww... ill stick to firefox
[01:37] <nbound> how do i add my extra programs to the menus in ubuntu? anyone???
[01:37] <hippie23> opera sux
[01:37] <attroja> nbound: right click the menu bar (default top of screen)
[01:37] <mwe> hippie23: yeah kinda
[01:37] <Corey_> soundray, Keypad+? I have no numpad on my laptop. If the keystroke results in the + unicode (for me shift =), will that still work?
[01:37] <keeganX> nbound, alright..I just thought alsa had 5.1, but I guess not?
[01:37] <bosco> does anybody no any thing about the college distro to linux
[01:37] <menko> hippie23, right now I'm running firefox and thinking how sluggish it is
[01:37] <michael> I just installed cvscedega and can't figure out how to use it     http://pastebin.com/506119
[01:37] <gnomefreak> bosco, yes its not ubuntu ;)
[01:37] <hippie23> I lust tried opera.... it didnt load all of ebay.com
[01:38] <soundray> Corey_, no, in this case, use the Fn or whatever combination that gives you KP+ (or minus).
[01:38] <hippie23> just*
[01:38] <attroja> bosco: LormaLinux?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: sluggish?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: not here
[01:38] <hippie23> stuff was missing
[01:38] <KoruptidPryde> bosco, check the college linux website for their IRC channel... not to be rude... but there is a reason this cahnnel is called #Ubuntu
[01:38] <jnk> Corey_, your desktop is in english?
[01:38] <mwe> menko: lynx is faster though :)
[01:38] <bosco> ok
[01:38] <Corey_> jnk, yes
[01:38] <menko> mwe, maybe it's just that it comes with an older version?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> bosco, try distrowatch.com see what they have on it
[01:38] <hippie23> sluggish?.... firefox is a lot faster than IE any day
[01:38] <bosco> i will thank you
[01:38] <moodsoft> any ubuntu guru's here?
[01:38] <Corey_> soundray, okay, lemme do that (it's windowed right now)
[01:38] <nbound> keeganX, maybe it does... i dunno ive never used 5.1
[01:38] <jnk> Corey_, then tell me if the ctrl+alt++ doesn't work we can try something
[01:38] <mkyb14_> no arrr anyone ever get the ati drivers installed correctly.. i have a 9800 and the tutorial on wiki doesn't work or i'm just broken
[01:38] <mwe> menko: I use 1.5
[01:39] <attroja> Is there a way that I can add a Terminal option to the right-click-desktop-menu?
[01:39] <Corey_> jnk, okay, it's still booting though, i'll report as soon as it happens.
[01:39] <hippie23> linux + firefox = even faster
[01:39] <menko> mwe, by sluggish I mean it feels sluggish when switching tabs and some other small things
[01:39] <KoruptidPryde> moodsoft, dangerous question.... a lot of people like to think so
[01:39] <gnomefreak> hippie23, you want fast use w3m
[01:39] <santiago_> hi, does anyone is using 5.10 in a laptop? Is there any way to make ubuntu stop loking the screen every time I close the screen ?
[01:39] <visit0r> crimsun: does not seem to work with 2.6.14 either :I
[01:39] <hippie23> any radio hams in here?
[01:39] <Machiavelli|> I tried some things and now I see 'caught signal 4. server aborting' when I try startX
[01:39] <moodsoft> KoruptidPryde, yes that's probably true. fortuantly I know something about linux
[01:39] <soundray> hippie23, DG6YHS
[01:39] <hippie23> I need a good packet program for linux
[01:40] <bosco> all right i have one other question i have an inspirion 6000 and my hot keys on the outside work but not the play and stop and the fastfoward and stop but the volume up and down work what can i do to fix tha
[01:40] <mwe> menko: I didn't notice
[01:40] <hippie23> <--KD7DCN
[01:40] <menko> maybe it's just gtk is sluggish...
[01:40] <Machiavelli|> and also some stuff about ' no symbols found'
[01:40] <visit0r> crimsun: 2.6.14.6 seems to have 1.0.10rc1 ALSA, so I think the only way is to backport the alsalibs
[01:40] <KoruptidPryde> moodsoft, if you have a specific question I'll see what I can do for you.... if your nick is registered then PM it to me... I prefer to be able to track the conversation more easily
[01:40] <soundray> hippie23, haven't been doing anything for years... barely remembered my callsign :(
[01:41] <ki4ikl> what about callsigns, hamradio?
[01:41] <hippie23> im quit active on the airwaves
[01:41] <Corey_> jnk, soundray, I am at the login screen - I can read it enough to type in my name and password in the boxes, but the colours are negated and vague blue and white stripes adorn the screen to create any sort of UI. Is this the screen in which I press ctrl alt +, or should I log in and be at the desktop first?
[01:41] <attroja> Can I add a Terminal option to the desktop right-click menu?
[01:41] <ki4ikl> i am an operator
[01:41] <hippie23> I have 3 radios on rite now
[01:41] <hippie23> LOL
[01:41] <jnk> Corey_, I tink you can try now
[01:41] <soundray> Corey_, both should work.
[01:41] <Stormx2> hippie23: maybe ethereal?
[01:41] <Seveas> attroja, apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[01:41] <ki4ikl> i have one
[01:41] <gnomefreak> attroja, sudo apt-get install nautilus-open-terminal
[01:41] <mwe> visit0r: what is this alsalibs problem? I'm using a 2.6.15 custom kernel and alsa works just fine ...
[01:41] <molinero> Hello to all
[01:41] <molinero> greetings from Mexico
[01:42] <gnomefreak> <<<miss spell natiluis 3 times :(
[01:42] <jariep1__> is there a n ewbie guide to using repositories in ubuntu and kubuntu and using adept?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> make that 4
[01:42] <molinero> I learning Ubuntu Breezy
[01:42] <limer> hi all
[01:42] <mwe> !tell jariep1__ about repos
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: cannot use the AC3 passthrough device
[01:42] <attroja> gnomefreak: thank you very much.
[01:42] <rabbit> jnk, it doesn't seem like this is an option....
[01:42] <soundray> gnomefreak, AND you can't spell misspell :)
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: otherwise it works fine
[01:42] <gnomefreak> yw att
[01:42] <mwe> visit0r: I see
[01:42] <bosco> how do i configure my hot keys in ubuntu
[01:42] <Corey_> jnk, soundray, Woah! It's still stripey, but black on white now and much easier to read. Still too big though, too... is there a next step?
[01:42] <primoturbo> What's a good bittorrent client other then Azureus for Ubuntu?
[01:42] <visit0r> mwe: but xine says that my device is occupied when I try to play a AC3 video
[01:42] <rabbit> soundray, jnk,   have you ever printed double sided?  do you know how?
[01:42] <nbound> welcome molinero =)
[01:42] <soundray> Corey_, yes, repeat.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> oops
[01:43] <jariep1__> mwe, thanks
[01:43] <gnomefreak> misspell
[01:43] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:43] <mwe> visit0r: oh
[01:43] <Roots> primoturbo bittornado?
[01:43] <hippie23> I have been using KDE for years.... now I thing im becoming partial to Gnome
[01:43] <hippie23> LOL
[01:43] <Dead_Letter> definition of bored: when you start to CTCP version yourself.
[01:43] <primoturbo> anything else
[01:43] <gnomefreak> its windows messing me up
[01:43] <limer> anyone familiar with webcalendar?  I can't seem to access it in the browser as I don't know where/what to specify
[01:43] <primoturbo> don't like bittornado
[01:43] <damasta> bosco, system->preferences-.keyboard preferences
[01:43] <michael> nm, i got it
[01:43] <jariep1__> Seveas, thanks for pointing me to the Seveas repository yesterday
[01:43] <primoturbo> something similar to utorrent/abc or bitcomet?
[01:43] <bosco> ah will try tha
[01:43] <bosco> t
[01:43] <jnk> Corey_, you can try different resolutions... Desktop->Preferences->Resolution of something like that
[01:43] <soundray> rabbit, yes, I did it with my thesis. Had to mark a sheet to be sure which way it comes out of the printer...
[01:43] <mwe> visit0r: I don't seem to be able to find alsalibs with apt-cache at all
[01:43] <attroja> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:43] <attroja>  emacs21
[01:43] <attroja>  cedet-common
[01:43] <attroja>  eieio
[01:43] <attroja>  speedbar
[01:43] <attroja> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[01:43] <Roots> not that I know of. And I don't particular like bittornado either. It gets the job done, but the UI could be cleaner and torrent management could be more convenient
[01:43] <gnomefreak> :(
[01:44] <rabbit> soundary,  how do you do it?
[01:44] <mwe> attroja: don't paste in here
[01:44] <visit0r> mwe: it's libasound2
[01:44] <mwe> visit0r: ah
[01:44] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:44] <primoturbo> what are the keyboard shortcuts to see process running and such
[01:44] <primoturbo> like ctrl + alt + del
[01:44] <jariep1__> I'm a bit of a newbie to linux so bare with me on some simple questions
[01:44] <visit0r> crimsun: dapper only has 1.0.9 for i386?
[01:44] <matthewjames> hey i have a huge problem!
[01:44] <soundray> rabbit, print odd pages, flip and reinsert printed stack, print even pages, done.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, please tell
[01:44] <primoturbo> how do I see how much ram I'm using?
[01:44] <rabbit> soundray,   how do you print odd pages?
[01:44] <Corey_> soundwave, jnk, okay, I can see well enough to read things, but it's still stripey and too large, and repeating that keystroke toggles between two sizes (too big and WAY too big). 'll see what I can do - at least I don't have to squint as hard. :D Thanks a ton. I'll give you guys an update in a few minutes.
[01:45] <nbound> people instead of talking about it, just ask =P
[01:45] <jnk> soundray, problem is gnome print doesn't even allow that it seems!
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: do you think it would be hard to hand compile it?
[01:45] <gnomefreak> !helpme
[01:45] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:45] <soundray> rabbit, it depends on your application program.
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: I'm thinking maybe I need it too
[01:45] <SuperSam> how do i extract a .tgz to "/"?
[01:45] <WalrusU> This is slightly offtopic, but does anybody know of anything that can convert Microsoft Works documents into Open Office? Nothing supports the frigging file format including Office, but there's a little old lady who keeps sending me stuff in works format (which one can open in text editor, but it loses layout information)
[01:45] <rabbit> soundray,   give me an example, what did you use?
[01:45] <mwe> visit0r: if I want ac3
[01:45] <nbound> corey... use the PPC version of ubuntu on ur mac =P
[01:45] <_jason> SuperSam, why would you want to do that?
[01:45] <SuperSam> im installing a program
[01:45] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:45] <visit0r> mwe: I'm currently trying to roll a .deb with the dapper's alsalib in it (backport it to breezy), but I'm a bit lost (never backported anything before) here :)
[01:46] <MeanEYE> I need driver or kernel module for Crystal CS4235 based sound card, (CS4236 does not work) on Fujitsu Siemens x400 (ISA Card)
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: is ac3 broken for you too?
[01:46] <_jason> SuperSam, to /''?
[01:46] <soundray> rabbit, I used lpr. It was in the olden days of the BSD print daemon.
[01:46] <gnomefreak> SuperSam, extract it in same place the tar is
[01:46] <nbound> WalrusU, make her upgrade works is ANCIENT
[01:46] <matthewjames> i made my partitians, and everything installed perfectly, but when after i logged into ubuntu, and typed startx, it would not start, something to do with x server, so i did crtl alt delete, and restarted. I went into windows, and i had to do a sysytem restore
[01:46] <halibut> Is there a 64bit kubuntu which is stable?
[01:46] <soundray> rabbit, what format is your document in?
[01:46] <mwe> visit0r: didn't try but I guess with a 2.6.15 kernel seeing what you said
[01:46] <SuperSam> i havent the permissions to
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: hand compiling is easy, but I want a deb so it gets into the package manager db not messing the system
[01:46] <WalrusU> nbound: I know. And I've told her a dozen times now to use Save As... but like I said, she's a little old lady who doesn't remember.
[01:46] <SuperSam> i need to know the commands in console
[01:46] <iceraven> When I install games like nethack or crossfire, there are no icons in the menu how do I make a nice pretty icon for the games and programs I have installed using Synaptic?
[01:46] <_jason> SuperSam, cp the .tgz to your home directory and work with it there
[01:46] <visit0r> mwe: well it probably depends on the sound card you are using, I'm using SB Live!
[01:47] <Corey_> nbound, I used the Windows version because I want OS X to continue to work, and PPC on portables (PowerBook, iBook, etc) is entirely too difficult to do. Therefore I'm using the Windows version within Virtual PC - I would much rather have it installed independantly than as a Live CD.
[01:47] <rabbit> soundray,   any format..  I was just testing..  so how about openoffice writer??   odt ..  or gedit?  txt?   I can't figure out a way with either
[01:47] <soundray> rabbit, one sec...
[01:47] <kasemodz> anyone have a rtl8185 wireless card and has managed to install it/
[01:47] <kasemodz> ?
[01:47] <Corey_> **partitioning drives to dual boot PPC and any other OS on portables
[01:47] <nbound> Corey_, you could repartition though??? =/
[01:47] <_jason> SuperSam, tar zxvf /path/to/tgzfile
[01:47] <gnomefreak> _jason, how is he gonna get build-dep or build-essential without permissions :(
[01:47] <kasemodz> plz contact me
[01:47] <nbound> Corey_, then ud have OSX and ubuntu
[01:47] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i made my partitians, and everything installed perfectly, but when after i logged into ubuntu, and typed startx, it would not start, something to do with x server, so i did crtl alt delete, and restarted. I went into windows, and i had to do a sysytem restore
[01:47] <SuperSam> ty jason
[01:47] <_jason> SuperSam, your sudo is broken?
[01:48] <MrPockets> there is no way to add songs to an Ipod in Ubuntu, is there?
[01:48] <mwe> visit0r: yeah. just ac97 here
[01:48] <SuperSam> nope
[01:48] <_jason> SuperSam, oh ok
[01:48] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, what was the error you got from X
[01:48] <Corey_> nbound, but I have no way to choose the boot - OS X overrides all startup disks on PowerBook G4s (won't let me boot from a CD, or into classic OS 9)
[01:48] <jnk> MrPockets, yes there is, like with gtkpod
[01:48] <visit0r> mwe: does it even support digital out?
[01:48] <SuperSam> Thankyou jason_
[01:48] <Corey_> nbound, not even in the system prefs
[01:48] <_jason> SuperSam, no problemo SuperSamo, sry I felt like writing that
[01:48] <kasemodz> anyone wanna help me install my wireless card
[01:48] <kasemodz> been trying all day
[01:49] <matthewjames> Gnomefree: something about xserver could not start, or sumthing like that
[01:49] <SuperSam> lol :P np
[01:49] <MrPockets> jnk,  thank you
[01:49] <mwe> visit0r: I think so. not sure
[01:49] <nbound> Corey_, format install ubuntu, then configure GRUB/LILO to allow u to boot OS X on another drive????
[01:49] <nbound> or another partition
[01:49] <flodine> anyone running any new cpus here like 64 bit or hyperthread?
[01:50] <jnk> rabbit, it seems in oowriter you can select only left or right pages if you want
[01:50] <nbound> flodine, i have an Athlon64
[01:50] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: something about xserver could not start, or sumthing like that
[01:50] <mwe> visit0r: I think I could manage to make a deb though
[01:50] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you need to configure xserver  when you get back into ubuntu at terminal type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure everything that it says is correct than try to start X again might have to reboot
[01:50] <chuck> _jason, unable to mount drive, said file not found. I erased master and installed ubuntu also on master drive and that one would communicte with web and i have cable. this ubuntu says that its alwys online
[01:50] <rabbit> jnk, how?
[01:50] <flodine> nbound you have it running in 32 bit mode
[01:50] <visit0r> mwe: already doing it... nice to learn the process myself
[01:50] <_jason> chuck, okay so you are good to go?
[01:51] <nbound> flodine, yeah its more compatioble, i used to run AMD64 ubuntu though
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, in the printing options...
[01:51] <chuck> _jason woops it wouldn't communicate
[01:51] <nbound> compatible*
[01:51] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, just for the record what vidieo card do you have?
[01:51] <gnomefreak> video :(
[01:51] <rabbit> jnk, can you be more specific?
[01:51] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: ati
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, File->Print->Options, and unselect legt or gith apges...
[01:51] <adriyel> whats the name of the support channel for ubuntu? is this it?
[01:51] <Farris1> If I build a module from source, where should I place it so that a modprobe will find it?
[01:51] <nbound> adriyel, yep =)
[01:51] <_jason> chuck, so fresh new install and no internet, that is the problem you are having?
[01:51] <jnk> rabbit, that's left or right :)
[01:51] <adriyel> kkz
[01:51] <mwe> visit0r: yeah. I sometimes used checkinstall. then just ar x the deb and modify the version. makes it kinda easy
[01:51] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but i cant get back into ubuntu
[01:51] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you might want to look at the ati wiki also if that doesnt work
[01:52] <rabbit> jnk, i see ..   looks good
[01:52] <Corey_> nbound, I don't really have a good enough understanding of of OS X and partitioning, I suppose. :( Are there any safe, freeware resources you could point me to?
[01:52] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matthewjames about ati
[01:52] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but i cant get back into ubuntu
[01:52] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, why not?
[01:52] <chuck> _jason, yes only this one will communicate
[01:52] <rabbit> soundray,  jnk found it..
[01:52] <gnomefreak> grub doesnt open when you restart?
[01:52] <steve3902> Hello
[01:52] <bamm`desk> yay finished
[01:52] <bamm`desk> :] 
[01:52] <adriyel> I have a question about my RAID array
[01:52] <_jason> chuck, I don't really nknow too much about troubleshooting that, someone else can probably help you out
[01:52] <nbound> Corey_, not really, i havent used macs enough... im sure there may be a walkthrough guide if u google it
[01:52] <adriyel> Ubuntu's installer doesn't appear to detect it properly
[01:52] <Corey_> Hey, my screen cuts off, but I can navigate the dropdown menus with the arrow keys - how many selections down from "Removable Drives and Media" is the display options?
[01:52] <adriyel> any ideas?
[01:52] <soundray> rabbit, ah, excellent. Well done again, jnk
[01:53] <Knowerrors>  Hey all, I just installed FF as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29, when I try to start it, it says there is already a Firefox running, which there isn't... any help?
[01:53] <Corey_> **in the System toolbar
[01:53] <visit0r> mwe: I'm trying the  make -f debian/rules binary
[01:53] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: when i logged into windows first time, i had to do a sysytem restore, i checked, and the parts are still ther, but when i restart, grub does not appear, and goes directly to windows
[01:53] <visit0r> mwe: I was suggested
[01:53] <_jason> Knowerrors, killall firefox-bin
[01:53] <adriyel> my RAID array is a 153-gig striped array of two hitachi sata-2 disks
[01:53] <silvio> hOla!!
[01:53] <menko> okay, about the opera motif issue, the linux kernel finished downloading. Is the package I'm meant to install called openoffice motif? I can't find any package with that name
[01:53] <kasemodz> alright i used the rtl8180 driver from sourceforge, made it into a deb, and installed it. then ibasically followed the insturctions. However, when I go to manually installing the modules it keeps saying that there is a unknown character in the module
[01:53] <adriyel> anyone tell me of a distribution that will detect this properly?
[01:53] <kasemodz> i dunno wut to do about this
[01:53] <mwe> visit0r: ok
[01:54] <chuck> _jason, i may need to erase both drives and start over, cause only one install will work online
[01:54] <mwe> visit0r: the debian guide is good
[01:54] <jariep1__> Seveas, I have a friend that gave up on linux because he had trouble as a newbie installing the ati drivers... He has an ATI radeon 9550 video card, do you have a driver prebuilt in your repository for this card?
[01:54] <adriyel> gnomefreak the system restore prolly killed GRUB dude
[01:54] <gnomefreak> adriyel, detect what?
[01:54] <adriyel> gnomefreak my RAID 0 array
[01:54] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:54] <Knowerrors> _jason: like I said, there isn't any firefox running, I did a ps -aux and saw nothing
[01:54] <adriyel> NVIDIA SATA RAID 0 array of two disks
[01:54] <gnomefreak> adriyel, system restore doesnt kill anything he restored it to before grub
[01:54] <soundray> flodine, I run an Athlon 64 in 64bit mode.
[01:54] <nbound> jariep1__, yeah there is...
[01:54] <Unity> does anyone get this error when playing a movie with totem? "Failed to play: Internal GStreamer error: pad problem.  File a bug."
[01:54] <Knowerrors> _jason: killall firefox-bin firefox-bin: no process killed
[01:54] <_jason> chuck, that sounds a bit drastic.  Just explain everything again in detail but concisely and ask the channel.
[01:54] <jariep1__> ok thanks
[01:55] <adriyel> gnomefreak do you know of a distribution that will detect my RAID array then?
[01:55] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:55] <gnomefreak> windows system restore is not a fix for anything people
[01:55] <jariep1__> Hopefully he'll give it another go
[01:55] <adriyel> Ubuntu doesn't seem to be capable
[01:55] <nbound> jariep1__, fglrx??? (I THINK)
[01:55] <Farris1> when you build a module from source, where are you supposed to put it so that you can modprobe it or load it at boot?
[01:55] <jariep1__> my friend that is
[01:55] <gnomefreak> adriyel, raid no i dont
[01:55] <jariep1__> ok
[01:55] <adriyel> does anyone know of a good distribution to use with a RAID array?
[01:55] <jariep1__> nbound thanks
[01:55] <ozzloy> what is the best way to get the mplayer plugin for 5.10 for firefox?
[01:55] <mwe> adriyel: ubuntu
[01:55] <matthewjames> Gnomefreek: but grub does not appear
[01:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[01:55] <gnomefreak> lol mwe
[01:55] <Seveas> jariep1__, the repository is browsable again :)
[01:55] <ozzloy> all the google pages are for 5.4
[01:55] <adriyel> mwe it didn't detect mine properly
[01:56] <adriyel> I'll attempt the install again, but I don't know that it would necessarily work
[01:56] <steve3902> does anyone in here know much about mprime
[01:56] <jariep1__> ok will take a look, thank you
[01:56] <soundray> matthewjames, try to spell his nick correctly and he may respond.
[01:56] <jariep1__> thanks Seveas
[01:56] <matthewjames> Gnomefreak: but grub does not appear
[01:56] <_jason> Knowerrors, erm that's strange.  Try a restart?  may be faster than guessing what's going on
[01:56] <mwe> adriyel: then problably other ones wont either. I believe there's a wiki
[01:56] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, restore xp back to this time not back in time and grub should open when you restart win sys restore covers things not affects them
[01:56] <nbound> matthewjames, u can use tab to go through available names after typing in a few letteres
[01:56] <Machiavelli|> how do I open and edit a file again?
[01:57] <_jason> Machiavelli|, gedit /path/to/file
[01:57] <gnomefreak> sudo gedit
[01:57] <Machiavelli|> thx
[01:57] <matthewjames> when it restored, i think it took the bootable flag off of ubuntu part, and onto ntfs part
[01:57] <mwe> Machiavelli|: gksudo gedit if it's a system file
[01:57] <kasemodz> hey jason have u ever installed a wireless card
[01:57] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, where did you put grub?
[01:57] <_jason> kasemodz, i have not, sry
[01:57] <matthewjames> i did not, it installed auto
[01:58] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you choose wether or not you want it on mbr
[01:58] <kasemodz> ok anybody wanna help me install my wireless card? plz i beg
[01:58] <mwe> plz?
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell kasemodz about wireless
[01:58] <adriyel> ubotu tell kasemoz about wireless
[01:58] <Farris1> I upgraded my kernel, then had to rebuild the module for my RAID card. It's been a while since I did that. The module loaded, but where do I put the file(s) so that mentioning it in /etc/modules will load it properly at boot?
[01:58] <adriyel> crap.
[01:58] <gnomefreak> please mwe
[01:58] <matthewjames> then if i choos no, the when i restarted my comp, it would not have came up
[01:58] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah :)
[01:59] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, you didnt put grub on the mbr?
[01:59] <chuck> Ok, I have ubuntu on slave drive with communication online, then installed suse 10.0, it wouldn't communicate, ubuntu live will not work online, a second ubuntu install will not work, why only one install will communicate online
[01:59] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:59] <Eleaf> mmmmm
[01:59] <matthewjames> thats the question, if i did not, would it have came up, when i restarted my comp, and installed all of the other packages?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, put system restore back to the right date and time than reboot if grub isnt there you are no worst off than you are now
[02:00] <matthewjames> k
[02:00] <chuck> And I have caBLE MODEM
[02:00] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, grub should come up anyway
[02:01] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, think of sys restore as a lazy way to avoid a problem
[02:01] <soundray> chuck, how is your modem attached to the computer?
[02:01] <gnomefreak> etho???
[02:01] <chuck> usb cause my eternet card isn't working
[02:02] <steve3902> i have a strange problem, mprime a program used to test stability can run perfect on ubuntu weather or I use the livecd or install, but it cannot run on any other operating system unless I reboot from ubuntu into it!
[02:02] <kasemodz> alright plz in the future dont send me a bot
[02:03] <rabbit> soundray, jnk;        shucks.. you have to be SMART to use linux..   ( printing double sided:  print odd pages..  print even pages REVERSED and there must be an even number of pages to begin with!!)*    at least I think      *fineprint: every printer is different..    *sigh*       anyway, thanks guys, heh
[02:03] <chuck> soundray, USB
[02:03] <nbound> steve3902, if ur overclocking slow it down a little
[02:03] <steve3902> im not everything is stock
[02:03] <steve3902> it makes no sense to me
[02:03] <sethk> steve3902, I don't exactly understand your sequence.  also, you mean whether.  weather is when it's raining
[02:03] <nbound> steve3902, then why do u wanna mprime test it?
[02:03] <soundray> chuck, it's fairly typical that some distributions will autodetect a piece of hardware while others won't.
[02:03] <eno__> Hi.  Does anyone know the locations of the unstable repositories?
[02:04] <jnk> rabbit, really I think you should report a bug: https://launchpad.net/products/libgnomeprint/
[02:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eno__ about easysource
[02:04] <steve3902> yeah that was a typo
[02:04] <jnk> rabbit, you explain how hard it was... for such a simple task
[02:04] <eno__> thanks gnome freak!
[02:04] <rabbit> jnk, okay ;)   thanks for the link..  I'll do it now
[02:04] <ozzloy> how do i install the mplayer firefox plugin for 5.10?  googling is not helping
[02:04] <soundray> chuck, if it doesn't work in Ubuntu, you'll have to find the drivers and configure them and pppoe yourself.
[02:04] <chuck> soundray, both ubuntu installs are off the same CD
[02:04] <nbound> after ive downloaded the wine package... what do i need to do to set it up?
[02:04] <steve3902> i want to mprime test it because folding@home appears to crash every now and then
[02:05] <deefzi> where can i set what are functions of my extra mouse buttons? (mx518, 5 buttons.)
[02:05] <soundray> chuck, oh, and one works, the other doesn't?
[02:05] <Corey_> soundwave, jnk, nbound, thanks a lot for your help - there's a built-in OS X paritioner within the Disk Utility program in the Utilities folder in Applications - for future reference. I shall back up my files and successfully install ubuntu. Thanks again for your help! This was my first time on irc EVER, and I'm glad that everyone here is just so gosh darned nice. :)
[02:05] <chuck> soundray, that is correct
[02:05] <nbound> steve3902, well i spose u could try another stability tester
[02:05] <rabbit> jnk, I have to register to do this??
[02:05] <nbound> Corey_, no worries mate =)
[02:05] <soundray> Corey_, just don't call us nerdy again!  :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> rabbit, register what?
[02:06] <steve3902> do you happen to know of any *nix based
[02:06] <sethk> steve3902, explain what exactly doesn't work.
[02:06] <rabbit> gnomefreak..  to post a bug here: https://launchpad.net/products/libgnomeprint/
[02:06] <Corey_> soundray: ONE OF US, ONE OF US
[02:06] <jnk> rabbit, it seems so... :)
[02:06] <gnomefreak> rabbit yes you do
[02:06] <visit0r> crimsun: debian/rules binary fails with "error: C compiler cannot create executables", but manual ./configure passes. any ideas?
[02:06] <nbound> steve3902, nope sorry... u could try a windows one with wine maybe
[02:06] <chuck> soundray, and both were set at always online
[02:06] <steve3902> alright
[02:06] <primoturbo> Gnome is seems very slow, what's a faster desktop environment that's not ugly.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> xfce
[02:07] <joruss> question,, which takes precedence in nic configuration. Network-Admin tool in Gnome or the iwconfig assignments?
[02:07] <primoturbo> xfce?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> fluxbox cant be ugly it has nothing :(
[02:07] <primoturbo> k I'll look into it
[02:07] <nbound> primoturbo, slow???
[02:07] <primoturbo> yup slow on a 1.6Ghz P4
[02:07] <soundray> chuck, can you find out in the install that works, what modules it loads for the modem. Then you can check for errors relating to loading that module in the other installation.
[02:07] <gnomefreak> xfce is a desktop enviornment
[02:07] <rabbit> jnk, you really think this can be fixed by gnome??   it seems like printing is unique to every application
[02:07] <sethk> visit0r, that's usually caused by the compiler not having write permissions in a directory.
[02:07] <nbound> primoturbo, it shouldnt be =/
[02:07] <sethk> visit0r, assuming the compiler is installed, of course
[02:07] <primoturbo> takes like 5 seconds to start a program
[02:07] <Hikaru79> I'm trying to install Java following the instructions I get on the wiki. However, I'm getting that "No matching plugin was found." error, and the solution on the wiki isn't working. Anybody have an idea?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> primoturbo, how much ram do you have?
[02:08] <primoturbo> always been slow for me, I guess I'm used to WinXP respensivness
[02:08] <primoturbo> 768 DDR RAM
[02:08] <_jason> Hikaru79, when are you gettting that error?
[02:08] <nbound> primoturbo, gnome is faster than XP
[02:08] <visit0r> sethk: manual ./configure works, so it's something special with debian/rules
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, so in one case something is running with admin privileges and in the other it doesn't have the privileges
[02:08] <nbound> lol =P
[02:08] <Minsc> Howdy
[02:08] <chuck> soundray, I am questioning linux on HP, but i will need to find the driver files
[02:08] <gnomefreak> primoturbo, it should be faster than xp
[02:08] <visit0r> sethk: nope
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, yes
[02:08] <primoturbo> nbound: Much slower in my experince
[02:08] <sethk> visit0r, the effective user ID is different at the time it runs
[02:08] <Hikaru79> _jason, when I do this: geoff@trademeet:~/archive/programming$ DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386 fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586-1.bin
[02:09] <Hikaru79> Right off the bat.
[02:09] <primoturbo> anyways I
[02:09] <jnk> rabbit, gnome applications can print through libgnomeprint, then if they improve libgnomeprint it will show in all those applications... the print dialog from gedit is typically a libgnomeprintui dialog (unless I'm wrong...)
[02:09] <soundray> chuck, really your best option would be to fix your ethernet.
[02:09] <visit0r> sethk: ok, I'll try with sudo
[02:09] <nbound> primoturbo, are u video card drivers for ur card or just the vesa ones?
[02:09] <primoturbo> currently vesa ones, but it's not the video I don't think
[02:09] <visit0r> sethk: no help.
[02:09] <rabbit> can I choose libgnomeprint when printing?  or is it done automatically?
[02:09] <sethk> visit0r, of course not
[02:09] <nbound> primoturbo, coz vesa tends to slow tings down
[02:09] <primoturbo> perhaps
[02:09] <sethk> visit0r, that's because it isn't being run by you, it's being run by the rules program
[02:09] <_jason> Hikaru79, seems like you made a typo
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, strace it, see exactly what fails and in what directory
[02:10] <jnk> rabbit,  the application must be programmed to use the libgnomeprint library
[02:10] <primoturbo> I have installed drivers for my 9700 Pro before but it didn't seem to make the desktop faster
[02:10] <_jason> Hikaru79, from the wiki: DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux
[02:10] <Hikaru79> _jason, I know, I tried with i386-linux too
[02:10] <visit0r> sethk: I'll check config.log first :)
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, but if configure works, obviously the compiler is installed and working correctly.
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, ok
[02:10] <primoturbo> games ran fine, slightly lower fps then windows in Doom3 and Quake3
[02:10] <eno__> Hey Penguin Liberation Front, that's cool
[02:10] <nbound> primoturbo, install drivers for ur card and be amazed ;) and also u can use opengl games then =P
[02:10] <sethk> visit0r, brb
[02:10] <visit0r> sethk: /usr/bin/ld: skipping incompatible /usr/lib/gcc/i486-linux-gnu/4.0.2/libgcc_s.so when searching for -lgcc_s
[02:10] <primoturbo> I will, however I had some issues with video being pixelated
[02:11] <chuck> soundray, if that will even work, why only the first install works getsme, I appreciate your help!
[02:11] <primoturbo> is there a good guide
[02:11] <rabbit> jnk, in that case..   this (gnome team) wouldn't really help me
[02:11] <jared_> will someone kill ki4ikl, that is me,
[02:11] <primoturbo> for installing drivers for an ATI Radeon 9700 Pro 128mb
[02:11] <nbound> primoturbo, using drivers direct from ati or ones from synaptic?
[02:11] <jnk> rabbit, what's the application you need to print from?
[02:11] <_jason> Hikaru79, maybe they mean export DEB_BUILD_GNU_TYPE=i386-linux; and then do the rest of the line.
[02:11] <primoturbo> last time I had ubuntu it was from synaptic
[02:11] <Hikaru79> _jason, I'll try that :)
[02:11] <jared_> Seveas, will you please kill ki4ikl, that i sme
[02:11] <soundray> chuck, it's hard to tell unless you can pinpoint the specific point of failure and report an error message.
[02:11] <rabbit> jnk, open office and pdf files
[02:12] <nbound> primoturbo, try the ones from ATI maybe... but it will be a harder install
[02:12] <visit0r> sethk: not a permission problem, as running as a root didn't work either
[02:12] <GTroy> can anyone recomend a good file manager for e17?
[02:12] <chuck> _jason, thanks for everything you did to help!
[02:12] <ulph> I'm running Ubuntu 5.10 and I have a BJC 210 printer configured. It stalls after feeding the paper a bit. The last message in the log is "Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/canon (PID 13421) for job 10.". I can cat text files to /dev/lp0 and those will print. Any ideas?
[02:12] <_jason> chuck, yw
[02:12] <primoturbo> I've had ubuntu installed a dozen times but I've always went back to windows because it's been slower then windows
[02:13] <chuck> soundray, I'll let you know what i figure out
[02:13] <nbound> primoturbo, =/ thats weird its definately faster
[02:13] <Knowerrors> To anybody using FF 1.5, which of the 3 update methods in the wiki did you choose and why?
[02:13] <visit0r> nbound: not really... you note it with a low end computer. winxp is unfortunately more responsive in desktop.
[02:13] <jared_> Seveas will you please kill ki4ikl, that is me
[02:13] <soundray> chuck, I'll have to leave now, but there are always helpful people around as you know.
[02:13] <visit0r> nbound: with gnome and kde.
[02:14] <primoturbo> nbound: what are you computer specs?
[02:14] <jared_> thankyou
[02:14] <nbound> visit0r, he is using a P4 with 768 ram
[02:14] <_jason> visit0r, you've installed build-essential?
[02:14] <visit0r> nbound: ok then
[02:14] <visit0r> _jason: yes
[02:14] <jnk> rabbit, if you want to print pdf from acrobat reader, then you may have to print to a postscript file, then do something with command-line tools to get what you want. But the standard pdf view in ubuntu is Evince, and it uses the standard gnome printing. Also I would not be surpised if there are plans to integrate openoffice printing with gnome... And there's abiword for word processing too, which uses gnome printing...
[02:14] <chuck> soundray, thanks
[02:14] <ki4ikl> Who was it who was helping me earlier
[02:14] <visit0r> nbound: with a celeron 700MHz 196Meg there is a visible difference
[02:14] <lightbright> Seveas: you here?
[02:14] <Hikaru79> _jason, I get the same thing :( I know I exported right because when I echo the var, it returns i386-linux ...
[02:14] <nbound> primoturbo, my specs are A64-3000+ 1024ram and nvidia 6600, BUT it should be faster than windows on ur P4
[02:15] <nbound> visit0r, id imagine so
[02:15] <lightbright> i received an email: Accepted nautilus 2.12.1-0ubuntu1.2 (source).  So how can I now install this?
[02:15] <rabbit> jnk, hmm  i see..   okay, I'll suggest it..  just waiting for the reg email now...
[02:15] <visit0r> nbound: yeah, I should probably try that xdesktop thing
[02:15] <jnk> rabbit, thanks :)
[02:15] <nbound> visit0r, yeah a lightweight desktop would probably speed things up alot
[02:16] <ki4ikl> Who was it who was helping me earlier?
[02:16] <visit0r> nbound: yep, but does not help if there are heavy apps like firefox, not even mentioning openoffice, running :)
[02:16] <SgtGemini> Hello everyone.
[02:16] <ki4ikl> i mean just now
[02:16] <primoturbo> The problem is that I've used about 20 different linux distrobutions and they have all been generally slower or less resposive then Windows XP
[02:16] <_jason> Hikaru79, are you using 64bit?
[02:16] <visit0r> _jason: want to see the config.log?
[02:16] <Hikaru79> _jason, of course not ^ ^:
[02:16] <_jason> visit0r, I can take a look but I doubt I will be of much help
[02:16] <primoturbo> It's very noticable for the time it takes to start Firefox for example or when resizing a window
[02:16] <nbound> visit0r, yeah true
[02:17] <primoturbo> perhaps your computer is too fast to notice it
[02:17] <SgtGemini> I seem to be having trouble getting Ubuntu to boot. When I restart my PC and select "Boot from CD" it just boots windows anyhow. Any ideas? :(
[02:17] <lightbright> if I want to update nautilus, do I type: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:17] <aranis> SgtGemini: are you booting to CD? that's usually a bios setting
[02:17] <SgtGemini> I pushed F10 for boot options and selected "CD"
[02:17] <_jason> Knowerrors, chown before updating
[02:17] <visit0r> _jason: http://pastebin.com/506155
[02:18] <Knowerrors> _jason: and then chown back when done eh
[02:18] <tolstoy> Is there any way to adjust the video (as if via xorg.conf) on a Dapper Live CD?  I want to boot it to test if a wireless problem with the ipw2200 driver is fixed
[02:18] <nbound> SgtGemini, try changing the boot order in ur bios some bioses dont care what u press in that menu
[02:18] <_jason> Knowerrors, yep
[02:18] <nofx182> hey
[02:18] <SgtGemini> And last I checked it attempts to boot from CD by default
[02:18] <ki4ikl> Does anyone know who was talking to me a min ago, i can't find him, anyone please
[02:18] <nofx182> any one know any good mp4 converters for linux
[02:18] <lightbright> how can I upgrade to the latest Nautilus?
[02:18] <nofx182> or mac
[02:18] <SgtGemini> But thanks, I'll go recheck that.
[02:18] <jnk> lightbright, why would you compile nautilus yourself to update it?
[02:19] <nofx182> cant u use sudo apt-get install distupgrade or somthing like that
[02:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> .
[02:19] <nofx182> or apt-get distupgrade
[02:19] <nofx182> maby
[02:19] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:19] <Hikaru79> _jason, any other ideas? :(
[02:19] <nofx182> yeah there we go
[02:19] <visit0r> ki4ikl: KorupyPryde
[02:19] <ki4ikl> thankyou
[02:19] <lightbright> jnk: because a new nautilus is out and been approved as source!  FIXES the compression bug
[02:19] <metalhedd> I'm getting errors trying to remove upower,  subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 1
[02:19] <metalhedd> .  how can I get around this or force it to ignore the package?
[02:19] <lightbright> jnk: so, how can I upgrade to the latest Nautilus?
[02:19] <_jason> Hikaru79, you are doing this on a 386?
[02:20] <jnk> lightbright, you do "apt-get source nautilus" to get the source, and "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus" to install pacakges necessary to build the source
[02:20] <Hikaru79> _jason, yes. The arch is right.
[02:20] <nofx182> dude if ur on 386 then do sudo apt-get install linux-686
[02:21] <nofx182> 686 is faster if u can support it
[02:21] <jnk> lightbright, check you're indeed downloading the latest source...
[02:21] <_jason> Hikaru79, do you *need* to build it?  There are ready-made deb's available
[02:21] <Hikaru79> _jason, there are?! Point me to 'em! :D
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu, tell Hikaru79 about javadeb
[02:21] <Hikaru79> (btw, this doesn't *build* java, just makes a deb out of it)
[02:22] <jnk> lightbright, well in short, you were right :)
[02:22] <Hikaru79> _jason, you *are* my hero. Thanks :D
[02:22] <Krelbel> Hey, quick question.  i'm running ubuntu 5.04 and following ubuntuguide.org
[02:22] <_jason> Hikaru79, wait until after it installs successfully ;o
[02:22] <Krelbel> and it says use
[02:22] <nofx182> any one here have problems putting vmware on 686 ubuntu
[02:22] <lightbright> jnk: lol
[02:22] <Krelbel> ## Backports
[02:22] <Krelbel> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-backports main universe multiverse restricted
[02:22] <Krelbel> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ hoary-extras main universe multiverse restricted
[02:22] <_jason> !ubuntuguide
[02:22] <ubotu> I heard ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:22] <Krelbel> but that messes up with apt-get update
[02:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell Krelbel about easysource
[02:23] <nofx182> my vmware wont install on 686
[02:23] <nofx182> any sugestions
[02:23] <Krelbel> ah
[02:23] <nofx182> asks where my make compiller is... because it cant pick the auto up
[02:23] <Krelbel> well i'm not using it much
[02:23] <lightbright> jnk: you do "apt-get source nautilus" to get the source, and "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus" to install pacakges necessary to build the source???
[02:23] <nofx182> even though i have make installed
[02:23] <MrSunshi1e> humm, trying to setup a console based system on my laptop .. doesnt links2 exist as ubuntu package? :/Y
[02:23] <Krelbel> just trying to get the mplayer installed fine
[02:23] <matthewjames> how make this symbal |?
[02:23] <hzg> hi
[02:23] <ompaul> nofx182, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:24] <lightbright> jnk: I thoght I have to type make
[02:24] <nofx182> thx
[02:24] <Blippe> matthewjames, depends on where you are from and how your keyboard looks!
[02:24] <hzg> when i am compiling ndiswrapper 1.7 on ubuntu 5.10,but it failed
[02:24] <lightbright> jnk: is that same as: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:24] <Stormx2> ubotu: check the ubuntu wiki, ubuntuguide is a very bad place to get help >.<
[02:24] <ubotu> Stormx2: I think you lost me on that one
[02:24] <Stormx2> oops
[02:24] <matthewjames> usa
[02:24] <Stormx2> not ubotu
[02:24] <matthewjames> normal
[02:24] <lightbright> hzg: sorry to hear that
[02:24] <Stormx2> xD
[02:25] <Stormx2> Krelbel not ubotu
[02:25] <matthewjames> is it just a l?
[02:25] <Krelbel> ok, i'll check that when I get back
[02:25] <Krelbel> thanks~
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  no!
[02:25] <hzg> make ndiswrapper source 1.7, it show:Can't find kernel sources in /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build;
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  it is a pipe
[02:25] <SuperSam> If I have the gnome version of Ubuntu butdownload the KDE from synaptic, can I change gnome to KDE, and if so, how?
[02:25] <matthewjames> does u drive always get riped when u rezize it?
[02:25] <matthewjames> wiped*
[02:25] <Blippe> matthewjames,  where are you from?
[02:25] <matthewjames> use
[02:25] <matthewjames> usa
[02:25] <Stormx2> SuperSam: Log out, click "sessions", select KDE
[02:26] <SuperSam> thankyou storm
[02:26] <eno__> how do I tell what kernel I am using?
[02:26] <Stormx2> eno__: uname -a
[02:26] <jnk> lightbright, the only difference is the -b option to actually build the package after download, otherwise you have to manually run dpkg-buildpackage (you cannot just run make for a debian pacakge)
[02:26] <nofx182> uname -r
[02:26] <yeskhing> sup guys... how can i make XINE as my default player?
[02:26] <nofx182> i mean a
[02:26] <nofx182> sorry
[02:26] <Stormx2> is it -r?
[02:26] <eno__> thanks stormx2
[02:26] <Stormx2> oh =) good good
[02:26] <nofx182> i think its -r though
[02:26] <Blippe> matthewjames,  you get a pipe by pressing "alt gr" and '
[02:26] <nofx182> i dont know try it
[02:26] <eZe> I just installed wine with synaptic, but i don't know how to start a exe file
[02:26] <Blippe> matthewjames, it should be close to your backspace
[02:26] <matthewjames> Blippe: does your info in your partition allways get deleted when u rezize it?
[02:26] <Martini> Last problem - I must "sudo modprobe" my ISA LAN card to appear in "Networking" but every time I restart computer ISA LAN card disappears in "Networking" so I must "sudo modprobe" again. Is there a solution?
[02:26] <nofx182> if its exe its windows
[02:27] <nofx182> look for a ./configure
[02:27] <Blippe> matthewjames, no, depends on a lot of things
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> anyone know if there is a links package for ubuntu ?
[02:27] <nofx182> then make then make in stall and so on
[02:27] <jnk> lightbright, so in my version you would not have buillt the package but you would have been ready to do so
[02:27] <nofx182> u eman for the os mr.sun
[02:27] <matthewjames> k, but can it?
[02:27] <nofx182> ubuntuguide.org
[02:27] <deefzi> is command "update-grub" really necessary to execute after editing menu.lst?
[02:27] <_jason> !info links
[02:27] <ubotu> links: (Character mode WWW browser), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 0.99+1.00pre12-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 375 kB, Installed size: 936 kB
[02:27] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[02:27] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:27] <deefzi> afaik, no, but one page said yes
[02:27] <jnk> deefzi, not strictly
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> humm
[02:27] <MrSunshi1e> cant find it
[02:28] <deefzi> jnk, what's the use of it? since every time i execute it, it overwrites my new menu.lst
[02:28] <Blippe> matthewjames, if it tells you that your info will be intact it will, if it tells you it will dissappear ti will...
[02:28] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, do you have universe enabled
[02:28] <Blippe> !repos
[02:28] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:28] <Blippe> !easysources
[02:28] <ubotu> Blippe: Are you on ritalin?
[02:29] <Blippe> !easysource
[02:29] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:29] <Blippe> ubotu, no we have been over this, it is crack!
[02:29] <ubotu> Blippe: what are you talking about?
[02:29] <matthewjames> Blippe; what if it does not say, like in ubuntu installer?
[02:29] <djbjrca> can anyone help mne with a microphone problme?
[02:29] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: aye, didnt find it with apt-cache search .. but if i just did apt-get install links it installed it :>
[02:29] <MrSunshi1e> mouse in the console? ... (no X)
[02:29] <jnk> deefzi, you can give information in commented lines in menu.lst which will be used by update-grub to generate noncommented lines. If you manually modify the auto-generated lines, your changes will be overwritten by the next update-grub. There's a special section in menu.lst for custom lines not managed by update-grub
[02:29] <nofx182> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[02:29] <nofx182> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[02:29] <nofx182> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[02:29] <nofx182> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.plwith CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[02:29] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, lol strange... sure it wasn't a typo?
[02:29] <_jason> ubotu, tell nofx182 about pastebin
[02:29] <nofx182> i get that any sugestions ...for installing vmware
[02:29] <yeskhing> How do you update Firefox to the newest version?
[02:29] <lightbright> jnk: is that same as: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:29] <Blippe> matthewjames, is that what you are going to do, install ubuntu, or is it with a tool inside ubuntu?
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk:  yes?
[02:30] <Machiavelli> Hi, I have now installed ubuntu. I want to use it as a file server to replace our old NT4 server. I read I need samba for that.  Do I need to format a partition in fat32 on the ubuntu to put the files from the NT4 on it?
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: tried a couple of times
[02:30] <nofx182> ...any sugestions
[02:30] <_jason> nofx182, install gcc-3.4 and use it
[02:30] <matthewjames> Blippe: 1 more question, can the files be deleted, by changing which partition is bootable?
[02:30] <deefzi> jnk, ok. so if i rarely update menu.lst it's not necessary to run update-grub or so
[02:30] <Blippe> djbjrca, what is the problem?
[02:30] <Farris1> Can anyone help me figure out why throughput via NFS is so slow?
[02:30] <Martini> Last problem - I must "sudo modprobe" my ISA LAN card to appear in "Networking" but every time I restart computer ISA LAN card disappears in "Networking" so I must "sudo modprobe" again. Is there a solution?
[02:30] <deefzi> jnk, or if i don't want it to autocreate anything for me
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk: so I can just type: apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus ?
[02:30] <nofx182> thx
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: hapendt o know how yto get mouse in the console ? :
[02:30] <lightbright> jnk:  yes?
[02:30] <MrSunshi1e> :
[02:30] <Blippe> metthewjames, never happened to me...
[02:30] <djbjrca> Blippe, my microphone takes audio but i cant record in any application
[02:31] <ompaul> nofx182, sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4 but I think you know that
[02:31] <matthewjames> Blippe: thank you for your help?
[02:31] <jnk> deefzi, good practice is this: you run update-grub whenever you have changed something in the automatic config (the part of the config which is considered by update-grub)
[02:31] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, not sure what you mean?  I think you mean you want to click somewhere and make the cursor go there.  If that's what you mean, idk :P
[02:31] <lightbright> jnk: ??
[02:31] <jnk> deefzi, but anyway grub will just read menu.lst whether you changed it, or update-grub
[02:31] <jnk> lightbright, 2 secs
[02:31] <lightbright> jnk: ok :)
[02:32] <deefzi> jnk, so if i just edit the list of bootable operating systems, i would... or whatever. yeah.
[02:32] <deefzi> :P
[02:32] <MrSunshi1e> _jason: im not having X .. its posible to have mouse in the console i know that but i cant find for example gpm .. i think that is what usaly drives the mouse
[02:32] <Blippe> djbjrca, you must
[02:32] <djbjrca> yes
[02:32] <deefzi> jnk, i have grub on server and i used it once, so i'll give my intuition a chance
[02:32] <Blippe> :D
[02:32] <djbjrca> what?
[02:32] <nofx182> ok gcc-3.4 worked thx guys
[02:33] <_jason> MrSunshi1e, oh, I didn't even know you could do that
[02:33] <Martini> How to add a command for UBUNTU booting up?
[02:33] <MrSunshi1e> links is graphical also so i use that as graphical browser :
[02:33] <Blippe> djbjrca, you must choose the input in alsamixer
[02:33] <djbjrca> okay ill try
[02:33] <jnk> lightbright, the line "sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus && sudo apt-get -b source nautilus" means just this: execute "udo apt-get build-dep nautilus" and if it succeeds, execute "sudo apt-get -b source nautilus". Now as you can see the first command is exactly what I gave you as second command. The second command in your line is the same as my first, except for the -b option. So your line is exactly like running my two commands, then running dpkg-
[02:33] <jnk> buildpacakge (which does what your -b option does)
[02:33] <eZe> I still don't understand it, if I right click on an exe file, I can't find wine anywhere
[02:33] <Locke> does anyone know anything about Mozilla Thunderbird?
[02:34] <djbjrca> Blippe, what are the commands in alsomixer?
[02:34] <aphorism> greetz all.
[02:34] <jnk> deefzi, keep in mind that update-grub can be run "automatically", when you install a kernel for example
[02:35] <lightbright> jnk: ok after that what I need to do?
[02:35] <Blippe> djbjrca, press h to find out
[02:35] <djbjrca> thank you
[02:35] <MagicFab> Hello
[02:35] <Farris1> Is openafs stable enough to use in production under ubuntu?
[02:35] <Locke> does anyone know how to have Thunderbird minimize to the notification area?
[02:35] <jnk> lightbright, you should have a new nautilus-blablabla-something.deb file
[02:35] <duckx0r> how do I get into kde from the command line? startx doesn't allow me to select my destktop environment
[02:35] <Blippe> djbjrca, there are nicer gnome-tools to do this, but im on kde right now so i can't find it!
[02:35] <MagicFab> What would be an appropriate place to report LCD hardware support ?
[02:36] <jnk> duckx0r, if you have a terminal try "startkde" or something like that
[02:36] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi! i have a problem with an HarDsik because i surely did something wrong! i changed size of the partitions, i formatted and formatted again, changed FS many times... and now that partition is gone. How can i rescue data from that partition?
[02:36] <jnk> duckx0r, (that's after you've started X)
[02:36] <duckx0r> jnk, thanks
[02:36] <Martini> Where I need to add a command (for ISA LAN card detection - sudo modprobe) for booting up?
[02:36] <MrSunshi1e> ffs .. input doesnt work in links :>
[02:37] <Nihil_Influenzat> when i boot the pc, system tell me that there are some errors that i have to heal manually, mayb to run fsdisk
[02:37] <duckx0r> jnk, oh my crap... this is weird... i am simultaneously running kde within gnome
[02:37] <jnk> duckx0r, lol
[02:37] <duckx0r> jnk, i should take a screenshot
[02:37] <jnk> duckx0r, yeah
[02:38] <_jason> duckx0r, I'd like to see it lol
[02:38] <djbjrca> Blippe, my settings in alsomixer are correct and yet i stall cannot record
[02:38] <can-o-worms> what is nice little text editor with a gui for gnome?
[02:39] <Martini> What's the command in terminal to DELETE?
[02:39] <jnk> jnk, djbjrca what program are you using for recording?
[02:39] <djbjrca> audacity
[02:39] <jnk> can-o-worms, gedit ?
[02:39] <can-o-worms> jnk: thanks
[02:39] <jnk> Martini, to delete what?
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Martini about cli
[02:40] <jnk> djbjrca, can you open the gnome volume controls?
[02:40] <djbjrca> jnk, yes i can and have
[02:40] <djbjrca> them open
[02:40] <MrSunshi1e> can someone check their apt-cache for gpm ? .. i just cant find it :>
[02:40] <MrSunshi1e> apt-cache search gpm
[02:40] <jnk> djbjrca, can you select an OSS device from the File menu?
[02:41] <MrSunshi1e> should be in universe
[02:41] <djbjrca> jnk, i selected the OSS device instead of the ALSA device
[02:41] <eZe> I changed my keyboard layout to german, but it still isn't german, what could the problem be
[02:41] <johndarkhorse> MrSunshi1e: it is there. you may need to enable universe and multiverse repositories
[02:41] <jnk> djbjrca, then in the Capture tab, enable everything relevant
[02:41] <jnk> djbjrca, both unmute and non-zero volume
[02:41] <djbjrca> ji have done so and will now try recording again
[02:41] <djbjrca> jnk, i have done it
[02:42] <MrSunshi1e> yeah .. enabled it but maybe have done it on the wron gline :P
[02:42] <djbjrca> jnk, I still cant record
[02:42] <jnk> djbjrca, what happens exactly? recording but no sound?
[02:42] <djbjrca> in audacity the record starts but no sound is actually recorded
[02:42] <MrSunshi1e> yey now it works :>
[02:42] <djbjrca> jnk, in audacity the record starts but no sound is actually recorded
[02:43] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi! i have a problem with an HarDsik because i surely did something wrong! i changed size of the partitions, i formatted and formatted again, changed FS many times... and now that partition is gone. How can i rescue data from that partition?
[02:43] <Nihil_Influenzat> when i boot the pc, system tell me that there are some errors that i have to heal manually, mayb to run fsdisk
[02:43] <ki4ikl> Does anyone in here know about linksys routers and ubuntu
[02:43] <duckx0r> _jason and jnk check it out lol: http://www.adventure-inn.com/kde_within_gnome.png
[02:43] <Martini> jnk: to delete a file- for copying it is "cp" as far as I know
[02:43] <_jason> duckx0r, ha that's awesome
[02:43] <eZe> I changed my keyboard layout to german, but it still isn't german, what could the problem be
[02:43] <jnk> duckx0r, lol VERY nice
[02:43] <duckx0r> _jason, i know lol, but very weird
[02:43] <nofx182> .k14ikl i do
[02:43] <djbjrca> duckx0r, how did you do that
[02:44] <nofx182> what do u need
[02:44] <_jason> duckx0r, how are you doing that?
[02:44] <jnk> Martini, it's rm
[02:44] <duckx0r> djbjrca, ran startx from the command line to get me into gnome then ran startkde within gnome to start kde
[02:44] <djbjrca> duckx0r, thank you ill try that sometime
[02:44] <jariep1__> how do I enable file sharing between kubuntu and Windows XP?
[02:45] <duckx0r> k i gotta fix this now lol
[02:45] <jnk> jariep1__, simplest is using a fat partition I think
[02:45] <ki4ikl> nofx182 i pmed you, did  you get it
[02:45] <jariep1__> jnk, I mean through ethernet
[02:45] <eZe> I changed my keyboard layout to german, but it still isn't german, what could the problem be
[02:46] <jariep1__> i have fat 32 in the windows partition, if i'm not mistaken
[02:46] <Martini> jnk: Last problem - I must "sudo modprobe" my ISA LAN card to appear in "Networking" but every time I restart computer ISA LAN card disappears in "Networking" so I must "sudo modprobe" again. Is there a solution?
[02:46] <nbound> eZe, reconfigure X
[02:46] <ki4ikl> nofx182 i just can't ge tmy router to work period, i am on a different router atm and i need to get this one to work, i hooked it up and got everything ready and it just wont work, on the face of the router it says it is fine but still wont work
[02:46] <nofx182>  pm me
[02:46] <eZe> nbound,  how do i do that
[02:47] <jnk> jariep1__, you can just setup an ftp server on ubuntu
[02:47] <jariep1__> ok
[02:47] <nofx182> ki4kl pm me if u want help ill give u steps
[02:47] <djbjrca> jnk, do you have any idea what might be going on?
[02:47] <nbound> eze, ummm, i dont remeber the command myself... can some tell eze the command to reconfigure x so he can change his keyboard layout
[02:47] <ki4ikl> never mind nofx182
[02:47] <jnk> Martini, try adding the name of the module to the file /etc/modules
[02:47] <jariep1__> i should have thought about that, thanks jnk
[02:47] <nofx182> did u do what i said
[02:47] <nbound> some1*
[02:47] <nofx182> 192.168.1.1 ..see if u get screen then password admin
[02:47] <nofx182> no user
[02:48] <jnk> djbjrca, I'm looking at it...
[02:48] <djbjrca> jnk, thank you
[02:48] <nofx182> try to ping 192.168.1.1 also if u need to
[02:48] <jnk> djbjrca, actually see the same behaviour on my laptop
[02:48] <nofx182> come on pats beet the  fuck out of denver
[02:48] <djbjrca> lol nofx182
[02:49] <jnk> nbound, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg I think
[02:49] <nofx182> hey im from new england : ) what ya expect : )_
[02:49] <tolstoy> Is there something wrong with today's dapper live-cd such that the screen is blank?  Or is it my card (which works in breezy)?
[02:50] <deefzi> hmm, when i try to boot my w2k grub says "file system type unknown"
[02:50] <deefzi> what could be wrong?
[02:50] <nofx182> .... duded u have to do dban
[02:50] <Martini> jnk: thank you ever so much. I owe you a beer!
[02:50] <nbound> eZe, what jnk said
[02:50] <nofx182> if u have had ubuntu prev. installed on a pc then u are trying to install windows
[02:50] <nbound> jnk, that sounds about right =)
[02:50] <nofx182> and u get GRUB error
[02:51] <nofx182> then  use a cd called dban
[02:51] <nofx182> and itll work
[02:51] <nofx182> it gets rid of the master boot record that ggrub leaves behind
[02:51] <johndarkhorse> nofx182: please direct your comments referring to 'dban' to the user with whom you are speaking
[02:52] <jnk> Martini, interesting... where do you live? :)
[02:52] <Martini> jnk: in Latvia. Do you know?
[02:52] <deefzi> nofx182, those were for me?
[02:53] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi! i have a problem with an HarDsik because i surely did something wrong! i changed size of the partitions, i formatted and formatted again, changed FS many times... and now that partition is gone. How can i rescue data from that partition?
[02:53] <nofx182> yeah defzi
[02:53] <Nihil_Influenzat> when i boot the pc, system tell me that there are some errors that i have to heal manually, mayb to run fsdisk
[02:53] <nofx182> deefzi pm me
[02:53] <jnk> Martini, sure but it's not next door :)
[02:53] <eZe> thanks nbound and jnk
[02:54] <nbound> eZe, no worries mate =)
[02:54] <deefzi> nofx182, done and done
[02:54] <deefzi> you got it?
[02:55] <deefzi> oh damn, private messages blocked due spam
[02:55] <deefzi> you're on any other irc network?
[02:55] <jnk> Nihil_Influenzat, you don't have written the partition table somewhere by chance ?
[02:55] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, what error exactly?
[02:55] <Nihil_Influenzat> jnk, thnaks for answering
[02:55] <nofx182> naw
[02:55] <Martini> jnk: Then where are your doors?
[02:55] <nofx182> deffs, just search in google for dban ok
[02:55] <Nihil_Influenzat> jnk, no, i haven't
[02:55] <jnk> Martini, in switzerland
[02:55] <jnk> Nihil_Influenzat, then you can try some partition recovery tool... let's see...
[02:56] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, the error is: you have some errors in your HD. I'm not joking
[02:56] <nofx182> deffs download it and burn iso , its a small file and it works quick, it will get rid of the master bootrecord aka grub error shit...then u can install w2k
[02:56] <djbjrca> has anybody had a similar microphone error?
[02:56] <sleyder> nnnmnmn
[02:56] <nofx182> nihil get data back is a great partition recovery tool
[02:56] <sleyder> uyjjjj
[02:56] <deefzi> nofx182, then i'll explain here: i have windows on slave-hd and ubuntu on master-hd and in menu.lst i have stated that the root of Windows is (hd1,0) followed by savedefault, makeactive and chainloader +1 although i couldn't find explanations on them. could they have anything to do with it?
[02:56] <Nihil_Influenzat> so it's very strange that i can run the other partitions... but this one is lost
[02:56] <johndarkhorse> deefzi: make sure you label it "Dangerous"
[02:56] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, id imagine u'll have to reformat, so a clean install would be in order
[02:56] <Nihil_Influenzat> i have not WIndows
[02:57] <nofx182> ....so u are trying to do a duel boot deffzi
[02:57] <nofx182> ?
[02:57] <deefzi> johndarkhorse, yeah :D
[02:57] <nofx182> u installed windows first correct,
[02:58] <Nihil_Influenzat> noddaba, i have 3 partitions: a 2gb swap, 140 gb ext3 and 138gb fat32. The last one is lost with 900mb of unknown stuff
[02:58] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, you dont need windows, if the partition which ha problems is ur one where ubuntu is installed then reinstall it, if not use gparted to re partition that area
[02:58] <deefzi> nofx182, yes. trying to dual boot and i have w2k installed for like 6 months now
[02:58] <GTroy> anyone know a good file manager to use in E-17?
[02:58] <eno__> How do I install the 2.4.26 kernel?  I have it downloaded already... but what do I type?
[02:58] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, i wish to know what stuff is inside the lost partitiion
[02:58] <nbound> eno, why do u want a 2.4 kernel?
[02:58] <nofx182> ...deefzi on dual boot, windows has to be partitioned as only part of ur drive , and it has to be installed FIRST
[02:58] <Nihil_Influenzat> noddaba, the system partition is ok
[02:58] <deefzi> eno__, did you dl binaries or sources?
[02:58] <nofx182> then u install linux LAST linux last always!
[02:59] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, can you access it at all?
[02:59] <johndarkhorse> GTroy: doesnt enlightenment have a file mangler?
[02:59] <Nihil_Influenzat> in this hd there's not windows... so linux is the first and the last
[02:59] <theverant> anyone know a good howto for ivman
[02:59] <djbjrca> does anyone know how to look up where a microphone inputs into ubuntu
[02:59] <deefzi> nofx182, i don't get it. "only part of my drive"?
[02:59] <Nihil_Influenzat> i can access only the ext3 partition.
[02:59] <Martini> jnk: see you later; thanks for support
[02:59] <huhlig> does anyone know how to create an ubuntu usb keychain installer from windows?
[02:59] <Nihil_Influenzat> the one with linux inside
[02:59] <jnk> Nihil_Influenzat, so you can actually see the lost partition in fdisk?
[02:59] <nofx182> ..deefzi ...answer this ...what did u install first linux or windows
[02:59] <jnk> Martini, bye
[02:59] <KoruptidPryde> johndarkhorse, E... in my experience doesn't at this point have much to be desired
[02:59] <deefzi> nofx182, windows.
[03:00] <Nihil_Influenzat> i can see it. i can even mount it
[03:00] <Nihil_Influenzat> but i cannot enter it
[03:00] <nofx182> ok ... udid u partition the drive..
[03:00] <Nihil_Influenzat> it's named "lost+found"
[03:00] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, so which one is bad... your swap partition?
[03:00] <deefzi> nofx182, but windows has its own bootloader on the drive it's in.
[03:00] <nofx182> to use all ur space
[03:00] <Nihil_Influenzat> but it says that i haven't the permissions
[03:00] <nofx182> ..ok and u said u have aslave drive that u just put in
[03:00] <nofx182> ] that is not being used by windows
[03:00] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, try as super user
[03:00] <deefzi> nofx182, indeed i did. i left 10GB of it free for "gateway" between linux and windows
[03:01] <Nihil_Influenzat> noddaba, the swap partition is ok. i have 3 partitions: 2gb swap, 140gb ext3, 138gb fat32. The fat 32 is out of order
[03:01] <nofx182> deefzi, did u allredy install linux, when u install linux u select , " use largest free space"
[03:01] <nofx182> this is after u install windows and u leave 10 gb left
[03:01] <Nihil_Influenzat> *nbound, not noddaba
[03:01] <deefzi> nofx182, don't you get that i have windows and linux on DIFFERENT hd's!
[03:01] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, if u only run linux, why have a FAT32 partition?
[03:01] <nofx182> yeah u still select " use largest free space" deefzi
[03:01] <nofx182> when u install linux
[03:01] <jnk> Nihil_Influenzat, what do you mean you cannot enter it? you can mount it to /some/directory and then "ls /some/directory" ?
[03:01] <eno__> deefzi: I am trying to install openMosix... which should I have downloaded?
[03:02] <deefzi> nofx182, no. i partitioned it by myself
[03:02] <eno__> The binaries by the way
[03:02] <nima_> i am looking for sponsership for my robotics team...anybody knows if ubuntu is willing to sponser any activities?
[03:02] <jnk> djbjrca, are you using a "real" mic or an incorporated mic in a laptop for example?
[03:02] <eno__> because that is what I think the tutorial said to do
[03:02] <djbjrca> does anyone know how to fix a microphone problem?
[03:02] <Firebird> damn im not the first firebird
[03:02] <nofx182> err,, i would have done it by using the larest possible space
[03:02] <deefzi> eno__, i thought you were installing new kernel? but don't ask me about binary-kernels downloaded through apt, i have only compiled.
[03:02] <djbjrca> oh jnk, i am useing a real mic
[03:02] <huhlig> anyone?
[03:02] <eno__> how do you compile?
[03:02] <Firebird__> gcc
[03:03] <nofx182> deefzi ,,did u part ..only in the left over space on the new hd
[03:03] <nofx182> partition*
[03:03] <nbound> eno, make <extra commands>
[03:03] <deefzi> nofx182, what do you mean by left-over, it was plain empty
[03:03] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell huhlig about anyone
[03:03] <nofx182> sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:03] <deefzi> nofx182, devoted for linux
[03:03] <Firebird__> this is confusing
[03:03] <nofx182> ok ,, then do a reinstall to linux,, and click " use largest free continuing space"
[03:03] <firebird_> lol
[03:03] <nofx182> ok
[03:03] <Nihil_Influenzat> jnk, i don't know... i will try immediately
[03:04] <ki4ikl> nfx182 i pmed you
[03:04] <eno__> make ok
[03:04] <huhlig> johndarkhorse: I asked the real question
[03:04] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, i have a fat32 partition because the last year there was installed windows, now i i removed it
[03:04] <djbjrca> Firebird, do i know you
[03:04] <huhlig> Ive looked and found no solution
[03:04] <deefzi> nofx182, are you fucking serious?
[03:04] <Firebird_> me?
[03:04] <djbjrca> yes
[03:04] <deefzi> nofx182, how long have you been using linux?
[03:04] <jono> when you select the language at the start of a breezy installation, is that language used on the desktop?
[03:04] <huhlig> how do I image a usb keychain drive so its bootable
[03:04] <Firebird_> im on the pheonixarmy now
[03:04] <deefzi> nofx182, or *nix based systems?
[03:04] <djbjrca> oh then yes
[03:04] <Firebird_> wonder if bigos bak
[03:05] <nofx182> 2 year
[03:05] <djbjrca> no
[03:05] <nofx182> years
[03:05] <Firebird_> yes
[03:05] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, well if there is nothing of use on it... then its save to repartition
[03:05] <nbound> safe*
[03:05] <jono> anyone?
[03:05] <deefzi> i'm not gonna reinstall linux because of one booting problem
[03:05] <djbjrca> jono, yes it is
[03:05] <nofx182> deefzi , so ur saying u just cant read ntfs...partition or u cant boot up into windows
[03:05] <ki4ikl> nofx182 i pmed you
[03:05] <jnk> jono, by default yes
[03:05] <eno__> so just by doing make on the source it will replace my lousy 2.6 kernel?
[03:05] <nofx182> ki4 i answerd
[03:05] <nofx182> answer back
[03:05] <deefzi> you have wrong mentality in this business, nofx182. it's not windows-style: "format c: and re-install whenever something gets fucked up"
[03:05] <nima_> i am looking for sponsership for my robotics team...anybody knows if ubuntu is willing to sponser any activities?
[03:05] <nbound> eno__, why use a 2.4 kernel?
[03:06] <ki4ikl> nofx182 you didn't, is your nick registered
[03:06] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, nihil@Portatile:~$ cd /media/usbdisk/lost+found/
[03:06] <Nihil_Influenzat> bash: cd: /media/usbdisk/lost+found/: Permission denied
[03:06] <nofx182> naw
[03:06] <nofx182> shit
[03:06] <deefzi> nofx182, why couldn't i boot to windows? i don't understand?
[03:06] <eno__> nbound: for openMOsix
[03:06] <jono> thanks :)
[03:06] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, add sudo to the beginning of ur commands
[03:06] <djbjrca> jono, any time
[03:06] <nbound> eno__, oh ok
[03:06] <Firebird_> how do i get my speaker icon bak
[03:06] <nofx182> hey
[03:06] <eZe> nbound, keyboard still doesn't work correctly
[03:06] <nofx182> im register
[03:07] <Firebird_> it dissappeared
[03:07] <eno__> nbound: I am networking with clusterknoppix and it uses 2.4
[03:07] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, nihil@Portatile:~$ sudo cd /media/usbdisk/lost+found/
[03:07] <Nihil_Influenzat> sudo: cd: command not found
[03:07] <deefzi> nofx182, i just don't understand why couldn't i boot to windows?
[03:07] <nbound> eZe, hmmmm, very weird, maybe the a germen ubuntu channel?
[03:07] <nofx182> because u fucked up and prob opartitioned over a part of windows
[03:07] <nbound> german*
[03:07] <nbound> !de
[03:07] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[03:07] <eZe> ubok, thanks
[03:07] <nbound> =)
[03:07] <deefzi> nofx182, "opartitioned"?
[03:07] <nofx182> yes
[03:07] <nofx182> partitioned..
[03:07] <deefzi> nofx182, that means?
[03:08] <XeoX> what happened deefzi?
[03:08] <nofx182> duded, can u see the files through ubuntu
[03:08] <nofx182> yes or no
[03:08] <djbjrca> jnk, i am using a microphone jack into my soundcard and not a usb mike
[03:08] <deefzi> no i didn't. i didn't have even the HD connected that time
[03:08] <djbjrca> if that ameks a difference
[03:08] <nofx182> ki4 pm me
[03:08] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, are you the only user of this machine?
[03:08] <Nihil_Influenzat> yes
[03:08] <eno__> so just to clarify,  if I make the kernel source, it will overwrite my current kernel?  Shouldn't I get out of X first or something?
[03:08] <Nihil_Influenzat> how can i change the chmod, nbound?
[03:09] <sorush20_> hi guys
[03:09] <Firebird_> dj did u solve the mic prob
[03:09] <Nihil_Influenzat> sudo chmod my/folder?
[03:09] <djbjrca> peace bro
[03:09] <Nihil_Influenzat> sudo chmod my/folder 777?
[03:09] <deefzi> nofx182, i'll check
[03:09] <djbjrca> ni Firebird_ i didnt
[03:09] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, chmod <add extra commands here>
[03:09] <djbjrca> i am waitng
[03:09] <deefzi> nofx182, keep in mind i can't msg you
[03:09] <nofx182> thats the first step
[03:09] <Firebird_> djbjrca go to the forums
[03:09] <nofx182> ok
[03:09] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, try "chmod --help" for help on it
[03:09] <djbjrca> whiuch forums Firebird_
[03:09] <Firebird_> ubuntu forums
[03:10] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, done
[03:10] <jariep1__> In what file should I configure the Java PATH variable?
[03:10] <djbjrca> thank you i will try that Firebird_
[03:10] <jariep1__> in ubuntu
[03:10] <blacks-> eno__, no, the new kernel won't get loaded until you reboot, and the old one will stay in memory even if its overwritten on disk
[03:10] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, done... but there's nothing inside that folder!!!!!
[03:10] <eZe> nbound, I just found something in the forums: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117174 the exact same thing happens when I do that
[03:10] <clearscreen> I just installed ubuntu.. well, I tried.. turns out there's all kinds of font conflicts that fucked up my install and gave me constant reboots when I was in my shell.. does this sound familiar to anyone? Im talking about latest 5.10 Breezy Badger i386 :(
[03:10] <deefzi> nofx182, cause i ain't registered. please stop pm'ing me.
[03:10] <jariep1__> i forgot, i guess i'll look at the wiki
[03:10] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, was it empty before?
[03:10] <Nihil_Influenzat> nbound, the system told me that inside the volume there were 900mb of stuff.... what's the matter?
[03:10] <nofx182> ok
[03:11] <nofx182> just register .. /nickserv register
[03:11] <nbound> Nihil_Influenzat, no idea, this is probly why its not working ;)
[03:11] <deefzi> nofx182, why i would have fucked up my windows by anyhow during the partitioning of linux, when i didn't even have the HD that had windows in it, connected at my computer that time.
[03:11] <nofx182> deefzi can u see the files
[03:11] <Nihil_Influenzat> the strange thing is that linux won't work even if the wrong partition is the fat32
[03:11] <deefzi> nofx182, no
[03:12] <Vivaldi> ok
[03:12] <nofx182> ...o dude u cant do that , u have to have the windows in and the other hd in when ur installing linux
[03:12] <Vivaldi> i instelled it
[03:12] <nofx182> so the grub boot loader sees the windows and makes it a duel boot master boot record
[03:12] <nofx182> thats why
[03:12] <jnk> bye
[03:12] <nbound> eZe, no idea, try "setxkmap --help" for help
[03:12] <deefzi> nofx182, wow. that's retarded.
[03:12] <djbjrca> bye jnk
[03:12] <Vivaldi> now: how can i connect to internet with an adsl modem, given that i cannot find the adsl-* scripts?
[03:13] <nbound> anyway i have to go eZe  and Nihil_Influenzat so cya's
[03:13] <deefzi> nofx182, grub cannot have that worse architecture.
[03:13] <Vivaldi> please help... it's too boring to configure the things manually by myself
[03:13] <nofx182> so do this, defzi ,,,, plug ur windows hd in and linux hd, then install linux ..when it gets to partitioning .." select " DELETE ALL LINUX PARTITIONS" then select use largest free partion space
[03:13] <deefzi> nofx182, that it wouldn't allow another hd addon later.
[03:13] <nofx182> and let it partion itslef
[03:13] <deefzi> nofx182, as if that was the only option left at this point? geez...
[03:13] <eno__> blacks-:thanks!
[03:13] <deefzi> nofx182, gimme a break, man.
[03:14] <nofx182> deefzi ,,, sorry dude thats the only thing
[03:14] <deefzi> nofx182, wanna bet 50 dollars on that one?
[03:14] <nofx182> yes, i cant think of anything els
[03:14] <navarone> deefzi what's up?
[03:15] <deefzi> and if you cannot, then the problem is an impossibility for everyone else?
[03:15] <nofx182> think about it , the grub installs as the hardware is at that time, adding another os, after ...makes it so there are 2 primary master bootrecords...
[03:15] <nofx182> u want to make linux the primary, an d have windows the second so u can select in
[03:15] <deefzi> nofx182, well how about reinstalling only the grub?
[03:15] <djbjrca> bye all
[03:15] <nofx182> ...iv never done it or dont think u can
[03:15] <navarone> deefzi whats wrong?
[03:16] <deefzi> navarone, i added another HD later which had my windows in it, and now i can't boot in to windows from grub.
[03:16] <Firebird_> anyone know how to get 5.1 surround sound working
[03:16] <deefzi> navarone, shouldn't be a biggie, i'll ask my friend tomorrow. it's 4:16 AM anyway :-)
[03:16] <navarone> you added windows onto machine with linux installed on primary drive already?
[03:16] <nofx182> ...because the grub wasnt installed with windows in it, so it is only set to boot from linux, u must install with windows allready on that so that the grub sees both boot loaders
[03:17] <nofx182> so install linux again, hit " erase all linux partitions," then " install using largeest free space"
[03:17] <deefzi> navarone, um... long story short: 1 HD in, i install windows on it. i remove the first HD and put a blank HD in and install linux on it. now when my linux install is complete i put my windows-HD back in.
[03:18] <Sanne> deefzi, this might help: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[03:18] <deefzi> nofx182, you really think i'm gonna flush all this work down a toilet?
[03:18] <navarone> deefzi did you put windows drive on cable as master or slave?
[03:18] <nofx182> u have to primary boot loaders, that wont work, thats why ...
[03:18] <deefzi> navarone, it's slave.
[03:18] <nofx182> navaronhe he can see the windows files, he cant boot from it because it wanst in at the time of install
[03:18] <deefzi> navarone, my intention was that GRUB does the booting, not NTLDR
[03:18] <nofx182>  but u prob can fix the grub loader some how
[03:18] <nofx182> i dont know how
[03:18] <deefzi> nofx182, no i can't see the windows files.
[03:19] <navarone> deefzi...you may have to set windows drive to primary and then use ubuntu install disk to reinstall grub
[03:19] <deefzi> nofx182, and if you don't know then i should just re-install the whole linux i spent this weekend? good attitude!
[03:19] <nofx182> ...o then u prob shouild check ur hd's ...dude
[03:19] <nofx182> first
[03:19] <navarone> primary meaning primary drive...first hdd
[03:19] <nofx182> make sure hd's are on cable select!
[03:20] <nofx182> Jjust put hd setttings on cable select
[03:20] <nofx182> that could be why
[03:20] <deefzi> navarone, mmm, ok.
[03:20] <nofx182> u could have both on master and
[03:20] <deefzi> they are.
[03:20] <nofx182> cable select is the best,, and easyest
[03:20] <nofx182> u sure
[03:20] <deefzi> ...
[03:20] <nofx182> go to the bios.. and see that u can see both drives
[03:20] <nofx182> ok
[03:20] <navarone> deefzi nofx is correct...windows should be set to master...windows expects to be first drive in cable sequence
[03:21] <nofx182> ...exactly:  ) dude go to cable select ... and go to the bios to check to see if ur pc sees both drives
[03:21] <deefzi> navarone, so windows cannot boot itself if it's on slave, right?
[03:21] <nofx182> yes it can,
[03:21] <nofx182> ok listen
[03:21] <nofx182> take the hd. look for the little jumper
[03:21] <nofx182> make sure its on cable select on both drives
[03:21] <navarone> deefzi not to my knowledge...but I am sure someone has managed it...but that would be a job for uncle google
[03:21] <deefzi> nofx182, it sees em!!1!!!1 (how can i emphasise that enough)
[03:22] <nofx182> fine , so if the bios sees the drives then its becaue ur boot loader
[03:22] <nofx182> thats whyh
[03:22] <navarone> deefzi are you in ubuntu now?
[03:22] <deefzi> nofx182, dude, although i have the problems, it seems that i'm not the retarded one here... (no offence)
[03:22] <deefzi> navarone, yes.
[03:23] <deefzi> s/offence/offense
[03:23] <navarone> deefzi go to terminal and typr fdisk -l and see what comes up...or maybe need sudo before not sure...should list partitions
[03:23] <DAaaMan64> I would like to install kubuntu on my m675 laptop.  However neither ubuntu or kubuntu's install disk will run unless I turn aspi to off.  Will this affect much and would this be a bad idea???
[03:23] <navarone> if it sees both hda and hdb drives then you are probably ok
[03:24] <deefzi> navarone, it sees my windows-hd
[03:24] <nickrud> deefzi, you could simply try sudo update-grub ; that will update grub to see the windows os most likely. Whether it would boot from the slave is another question (I don't use windows much)
[03:24] <primoturbo> Does anyone know a good guide on installing ati drivers?
[03:24] <deefzi> nickrud, no help on that one.
[03:24] <navarone> !ati
[03:24] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:24] <nickrud> been there, huh?
[03:24] <eZe> anybody know a solution to this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117174 ?
[03:24] <deefzi> nickrud, update-grub i mean.
[03:25] <deefzi> nickrud, if you're trying to say that i would add automatically the windows-label on the boot list
[03:25] <Blippe> what is the right way to do this: [rename " ??" " 0??" "alfa ?? (extra)"] ???????
[03:25] <deefzi> nickrud, it didn't. i added it manually and it should be ok.
[03:25] <primoturbo> thnx ubotu
[03:25] <navarone> deefzi is windows on hda or hdb?
[03:25] <Machiavelli> Hi, I tried to install with sudo apt-get install gnucash
[03:25] <DAaaMan64> will turning acpi to off be bad?
[03:25] <Machiavelli>  but I get the following message:
[03:25] <deefzi> navarone, hdb
[03:25] <Machiavelli> E: Couldn't find package gnucash
[03:25] <nofx182> acpi?....hmmmmmm
[03:26] <Machiavelli> what can I do to let him find the packages
[03:26] <deefzi> /dev/hdb1   *           1        2550    20482843+   7  HPFS/NTFS
[03:26] <Machiavelli> this comes from the ubuntuguide this package
[03:26] <DAaaMan64> I can't install ubuntu unless I turn it off when I put the disk in
[03:26] <z0rz> hmm
[03:26] <rabbit> hi, I installed the cups-pdf package..  and I can print from gedit > pdf..   but not from pdf > pdf....           it says "PDF creation not supported"...   is there anything I can do ??
[03:27] <z0rz> I have a ubuntu box that won't respond to keyboard/mouse movement.. the screen is just static black .. (but there is a signal coming from it) .. I can also ssh to it fine
[03:27] <navarone> deefzi...to be honest I don't know...but seeing as it is late with you anyway I would google tomorrow and see what your options maybe...but I am fairly certain that windows want to be on hda...but if you change that thru jumpers I do not know what probs that will make for ubuntu
[03:27] <z0rz> Anyone have any ideas how to get it outa of "Stand by" mode wihotu rebooting it?
[03:27] <blacks-> z0rz, sometimes just pressing the power button lightly (not holding it down) will do it
[03:27] <aeruder> navarone: windows can be on hdb
[03:27] <moodsoft> KoruptidPryde, are you back?
[03:27] <Sanne> deefzi, did you go to the grub manual? There's something about windows on a non-first hard disk.
[03:27] <nickrud> deefzi, if it boot win then, you'll need to swap hda<->hdb, correct  /etc/fstab, and then do https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows?highlight=%28windows%29
[03:27] <deefzi> navarone, well, if i make it hda it'll boot windows and not recognize ubuntu at all.
[03:28] <aeruder> navarone: it only cares that it is on a primary partition (1-4)
[03:28] <z0rz> blacks- nope didn't work
[03:28] <nofx182> windows cant rec. ubuntu
[03:28] <nofx182> !
[03:28] <ubotu> nofx182: I give up, what is it?
[03:28] <deefzi> navarone, unless i somehow make ubuntu boot throught NTLDR, which i wouldn't want to.
[03:28] <nofx182> , why not, its just the grub
[03:28] <navarone> deefzi are you able to get into windows at all?
[03:28] <deefzi> navarone, sure, i haven't done any changes to my windows-hd at all
[03:29] <deefzi> navarone, although i haven't tested. :-)
[03:29] <deefzi> navarone, i just unplug ubuntu-hd and make windows-hd the master and i should be set
[03:29] <z0rz> my num/cap/scroll keys won't come on either... but I did .......
[03:29] <z0rz> OMFG
[03:29] <nofx182> ..deefzi that wont work
[03:29] <nofx182> lol
[03:29] <z0rz> My ubuntu box just shut off
[03:29] <z0rz> AHHHHHH
[03:29] <z0rz> I had 165 day uptime
[03:29] <navarone> deefzi if you get into either os what is the problem exactly? sry I am sleepy
[03:29] <deefzi> nofx182, because of the moon being in the wrong position?
[03:29] <MrPockets> if i unmounted my IPOD, how do i remount the drive?
[03:30] <Sanne> deefzi, please... could you listen to me for a sec? I believe I might have help for you.
[03:30] <MrPockets> without unplugging it/ replugging it in
[03:30] <BxL> what's the filesystem of a music cd, to mount it
[03:30] <z0rz> BxL CDFS?
[03:30] <deefzi> navarone, i can't get into them simultaneously. (well not simultaneously) but everytime i would want to access windows, i would have to unplug all the cables, and switch it so that windows-hd is master.
[03:30] <nofx182> umount
[03:30] <deefzi> Sanne, you pasted the url before?
[03:31] <varsendagger> hey
[03:31] <navarone> deefzi do you mean that ubuntu is not mounting the windows drive for access?
[03:31] <deefzi> Sanne, i chechked it through (although very quickly since all the chatting here) and it seemed i could get some help there.
[03:31] <Sanne> deefzi, yes, I think it's just what you need, called disk swapping.
[03:31] <deefzi> navarone, pardon? i didn't understand.
[03:31] <Fusionfox> how can i give an especific user, privilege over an HDD?
[03:31] <deefzi> disk swapping?
[03:31] <MrPockets> anyone know how i can mount a Ipod?
[03:32] <navarone> deefzi is windows drives accessible thru ubuntu? Can you mount the partitions/drives?
[03:32] <nofx182> ...its becaue of the fucking bootloader, damnit, u instaleld ubuntu without the windows hd in ..so now u have a windows hd with a primary bootloader and ubuntu as primarybootloader thats a conflict, u need to reinstall ubuntu WITH THE windows drive in it.. so it sees the os and adds it to the boot loader damnit
[03:32] <rabbit> hi, I installed the cups-pdf package..  and I can print from gedit > pdf..   but not from pdf > pdf....           it says "PDF creation not supported"...   is there anything I can do ??
[03:32] <moodsoft> anyone here familiar w/ sysv-rc-conf
[03:32] <Sanne> deefzi, you basically tell windows that it is on the first hd, when in fact it is not.
[03:32] <nate__> hey, i need some help with terminal commands
[03:32] <deefzi> navarone, well i see them through fdisk so i think that's possible.
[03:32] <nate__> is there a command to create a new folder?
[03:32] <varsendagger> hey could someone send me their sources.list
[03:32] <deefzi> Sanne, how's that possible?
[03:32] <ccc_> nate__: mkdir <newdir>
[03:32] <Eleaf> nate__, with what?
[03:32] <nofx182> varsendagger i can
[03:32] <nofx182> pm me
[03:32] <nate__> ahh, thanks ccc
[03:32] <johndarkhorse> nofx182: please respect us with your language
[03:32] <varsendagger> or rather can i sudo apt-get install inkscape?
[03:32] <Machiavelli> any idea why packes like acroread, gnucash can not be found with apt-get on my machine?
[03:32] <navarone> deefzi go to Places/Computer and tell me if there are any drives there besides filesystema nd cd/floppy
[03:33] <varsendagger> nofx yes pleas send me it....
[03:33] <theine> varsendagger, yes
[03:33] <deefzi> navarone, nah, except the ubuntu-hd
[03:33] <DAaaMan64> so no one can tell me what acpi does??
[03:33] <nofx182> pm me varsendagger
[03:33] <Sanne> deefzi, in the grub config file, you put something like: grub> map (hd0) (hd1) and grub> map (hd1) (hd0) and kinda lie to windows ;). It's detailed in the grub manual.
[03:33] <rabbit> !acpi
[03:33] <deefzi> navarone, i would have to mount them so i could see 'em.
[03:33] <ubotu> rabbit: Are you smoking crack?
[03:33] <rabbit> haha
[03:33] <navarone> deefzi try this url ubotu will show
[03:33] <Fusionfox> how can i give permission to read/write in a Hard Disk to a normal user?
[03:33] <navarone> !diskmounter
[03:33] <ubotu> hmm... diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[03:33] <sorush20_> what does can not find x includes mean?
[03:34] <deefzi> Sanne, YES YES YES! that's the help i was looking for.
[03:34] <navarone> deefzi...diskmounter is a script to allow mounting of windows partitions
[03:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sorush20_ about xincludes
[03:34] <Sanne> deefzi, ;)
[03:34] <navarone> If that works you are set...but no gurantes
[03:34] <ki4ikl> nofx182 i pmed you
[03:34] <deefzi> Sanne, url to manual, pls? :)
[03:34] <jag_fsf> good evening -- i'm trying to get the poldhu wireless driver compiled against the breezy kernel and only having limited success...
[03:34] <jag_fsf> anybody feel like trying to help out?
[03:34] <Sanne> deefzi, http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#DOS_002fWindows
[03:34] <deefzi> navarone, i don't need to mount windows-partitions yet? why would i?
[03:35] <deefzi> navarone, it doesn't help me to boot INTO windows anyhow, or why would it?
[03:35] <navarone> deefzi i thought that was what you wanted but no matter Sanne seems to have found your solution :)
[03:35] <Sanne> navarone, :)
[03:35] <deefzi> navarone, well of course i have to mount them later... :-)
[03:36] <deefzi> navarone, but the major problem is getting in to windows since i'm still planning to use it in future
[03:36] <_clem> hi there.. how can I add mp3 support ?
[03:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell _clem about mp3
[03:36] <z0rz> how do I get my microsoft intellimouse optical to work on ubuntu?
[03:36] <_clem> thanks
[03:36] <jag_fsf> _clem: look in the wiki for RestrictedFormates
[03:37] <z0rz> like it'll move around but left click doesn't work quite right.. neither does scrolling and stuff
[03:37] <z0rz> ...
[03:37] <theverant> I want to be able to mount my USB devices predictably - /media/ipod /media/cfcard etc.  I am having zero luck with udev or ivman, can anyone help?
[03:38] <nofx182> theeverant
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install free net on ubuntu
[03:38] <nofx182> try umount
[03:38] <deefzi> Sanne, i should probably make bunch of backups before doing anything this radical :-)
[03:38] <primoturbo> How do I check if my ati drivers installed correctly?
[03:38] <cafuego> theverant: yer ipod should be mounted on /media/ipod all by its lonesome self anyway
[03:38] <theverant> cafuego - no
[03:38] <theverant> it mounts as sde/sdf/sdg whatever is next in line
[03:38] <cafuego> theverant: did you change anything in the default cfg?
[03:38] <nate__> how do you copy whole directories in the terminal?  Is it just "cp /folder/source /folder/destination?
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install free net on ubuntu
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <theverant> no
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:38] <nate__> bosco: don't spam
[03:38] <cafuego> bosco: stop spamming
[03:39] <primoturbo> A need a good Bittorrent client for Linux!
[03:39] <bosco> hello how do i install freenet on ubuntu
[03:39] <BxL> !ops
[03:39] <nofx182> yes
[03:39] <cafuego> !ops
[03:39] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[03:39] <BanZaY> shhh
[03:39] <nofx182> ban him
[03:39] <nate__> primoturbo, azureus
[03:39] <primoturbo> I don't like it
[03:39] <Sanne> deefzi, I don't know dangerous this procedure is, I just happened to remember this chapter and thought this might be what you need. But backups are always a good idea ;).
[03:39] <nate__> bittorrent?
[03:39] <primoturbo> anything else besides azureues, bittorando and the default one?
[03:39] <nate__> primoturbo, actually, your best thing might be to just google it
[03:39] <nate__> :|
[03:39] <primoturbo> o rly?
[03:39] <nate__> bitlord is a great windows one, i dunno if they have a linux version
[03:40] <primoturbo> I was hoping for a pro suggestion :|
[03:40] <deefzi> Sanne, yes. that wont touch the data, but if i somehow dama... well the odds are 1%
[03:40] <eZe> i'm trying to edit a file, but i can't do anything, I think because i'm not root, how do I log in as root?
[03:40] <primoturbo> too bad utorrent is not linux :(
[03:40] <theverant> cafuego - I didn't change anything, it was like this always... I've changed things since to try and fix it
[03:40] <nate__> here, try this: http://www.google.com/search?q=linux%20torrent%20clients
[03:40] <theverant> but they haven't made a difference
[03:40] <cafuego> theverant: odd.
[03:40] <bosco> well i am out of here thanks for you not helping me
[03:40] <nate__> primoturbo, my last message was for you
[03:40] <deefzi> Sanne, friend of mine fucked up his harddrive though. he had to make script that scanned HD one bit at a time to check where was the starting point of his windows partition
[03:41] <eZe> i'm trying to edit a file, but i can't do anything, I think because i'm not root, how do I log in as root?
[03:41] <Sanne> deefzi, I understand regardless, I'm very paranoid myself. I backed up everything when I installed Ubuntu in October, but of course everything went well ;)
[03:41] <nate__> bosco, don't be such an annoying bastard and you might get helped
[03:41] <rabbit> hi, I installed the cups-pdf package..  and I can print from gedit > pdf..   but not from pdf > pdf....           it says "PDF creation not supported"...   is there anything I can do ??
[03:41] <nickrud> bosco, you're welcome.
[03:41] <WalrusU> bosco: you're welcome. Thanks for not being patient.
[03:41] <nbound> anyone got q3 sound going?
[03:41] <primoturbo> nate_: Thanks
[03:41] <nate__> primoturbo, anytime
[03:41] <chris_> I've got a complete Noob question
[03:41] <bosco> no thank you
[03:41] <johndarkhorse> bosco: please use a pastebin next time
[03:41] <nate__> chris_, what
[03:42] <nbound> has ANYONE got the sound in linux quake3 going???
[03:42] <chris_> I'm trying to load the driver for my wlan card
[03:42] <nate__> chris_, i assume you are using ndiswrapper?
[03:42] <chris_> nope
[03:42] <nofx182> chris use ndis wrapper
[03:42] <nate__> google it
[03:42] <chris_> the driver I downloaded from linksys is for linux
[03:42] <nofx182> dload ndiswrapper, it takes a windows driver and convets to linux
[03:42] <nate__> http://google.com/search?q=ndiswrapper
[03:42] <theverant> *sigh*
[03:42] <nate__> chris_, oh
[03:42] <WalrusU> i hate trying to install software outside of my apt-get sandbox...
[03:42] <nofx182> ok chris, then is it a tar.gz
[03:42] <nate__> chris_, well why isn't that working?
[03:42] <Sanne> nbound, yep, fine here
[03:42] <chris_> yep
[03:43] <kasemodz> hey anyone installed a realtked wlan chipset card yet
[03:43] <kasemodz> the rtl8180
[03:43] <vook> is it possible to run a closed source i386 app under an AMD64 kernel?
[03:43] <nbound> Sanne, how did u get it goin? it seems a common problem
[03:43] <chris_> again I"m a complete noob to linux and using the help readme file
[03:43] <nate__> kasemodz, nope, what do you need help with?
[03:43] <nate__> chris_, good job, half the noobs in the world don't even do that, that's why they are noobs
[03:43] <chris_> it's telling me after I untar it to type in ./configure
[03:43] <kasemodz> well i downloaded a realtek 8180 deb file
[03:43] <kasemodz> and i wanna install it
[03:43] <kasemodz> i installed it
[03:43] <TecnoVM64> Anybody knows how to kill a process with a D+ ??
[03:43] <kasemodz> but when i go to manually load the
[03:43] <kasemodz> modules
[03:44] <chris_> it gives me something like bash directory not found
[03:44] <kasemodz> i can load two of the four modules
[03:44] <eZe> kasemodz, i have one, but i used another nic c
[03:44] <eZe> card
[03:44] <eZe> couldn't get it to work
[03:44] <kasemodz> anyone had that problem
[03:44] <nofx182> chris ./configure
[03:44] <navarone> D+?
[03:44] <Sanne> nbound, I can't remember doing anything special. However, I disabled the esd sound server, but I don't know if that's what got it going.
[03:44] <nofx182> then make and make install
[03:44] <kasemodz> it gives me this error
[03:44] <nate__> kasemodz, i dunno, do you have hte windows cd for it with the windows drivers?
[03:44] <kasemodz> unknown character in module
[03:44] <kasemodz> well now with ndiswrapper
[03:44] <chris_> yeah it tells me the directory or something to that afffect isn't found
[03:44] <nbound> Sanne, i already did that :(
[03:44] <kasemodz> i installed everything
[03:44] <navarone> chris you need build-essentials package to compile if you don't have it presently
[03:44] <nbound> o well off to try again
[03:44] <kasemodz> but when i do modprobe ndiswrapper
[03:44] <kasemodz> nothing happ
[03:45] <nate__> kasemodz, you started both ndiswrapper daemons?
[03:45] <kasemodz> um i followed ubuntu's wiki
[03:45] <eZe> i'm trying to edit a file, but i can't do anything, I think because i'm not root, how do I log in as root?
[03:45] <kasemodz> on how ndiswrapper setup
[03:45] <nate__> kasemodz, ok, you are on breezy right?
[03:45] <chris_> where do I get/how do I get build-essentials package
[03:45] <kasemodz> it talked about how to compile
[03:45] <_jason> ubotu, tell eZe about root
[03:45] <kasemodz> um 2.6.12-9
[03:45] <eZe> thanks :D
[03:45] <navarone> eZe, try sudo gedit <path to file>
[03:45] <kasemodz> i dunno if thats breezy
[03:45] <TecnoVM64> navarone, yeah.i tried to open gtkpod but somehow it isn't working and when i do ps aux, it says D+ as the status so i can't kill it :S.
[03:45] <kasemodz> now with realtek driver
[03:45] <MrPockets> HAZAA!
[03:45] <kasemodz> on the mnual it siad
[03:45] <MrPockets> whats HAL?
[03:45] <kasemodz> works with 2.6.12-10
[03:45] <nate__> kasemodz, oh, well i dunnomuch about it, but you might have to go to system>administration>networking and configure/activate the card
[03:45] <rabbit> hi, I installed the cups-pdf package..  and I can print from gedit > pdf..   but not from pdf > pdf....           it says "PDF creation not supported"...   is there anything I can do ??
[03:45] <WalrusU> chris_: easiest way is search for "build" in Synaptic Package Manager (or apt-get if you prefer the commandline)
[03:46] <kasemodz> well when i do dmesg
[03:46] <Storkme> is it possible to synchronize the clocks of the ubuntu machines on my network?
[03:46] <MrPockets> and whythe hell did my boot fail to start HAL!
[03:46] <kasemodz> or i mean lspci
[03:46] <chris_> apt-get install <?>
[03:46] <chris_> build?
[03:46] <kasemodz> it says "eth0 card found realtek unkown device 8185 chipset"
[03:46] <WalrusU> chris_: sudo apt-get install build-essentials I think
[03:46] <navarone> rabbit try evince pdf viewer maybe able to print from it...
[03:46] <kasemodz> now with the realtek sourceforge project
[03:46] <kasemodz> is installed eveyrhting but i couldnt load two of the four odules
[03:47] <kasemodz> and the error was unknown character in module
[03:47] <kasemodz> when i researched a little more
[03:47] <Storkme> is there any way i can synchronize directories of my 3 ubuntu machines that are connected on my LAN?
[03:47] <nate__> kasemodz, hrm, i dunno, can't help you there... :( sorry
[03:47] <kasemodz> i found out that the installation made a nother file
[03:47] <nate__> kasemodz, that's out of my range of knowledge.  Good luck though
[03:47] <kasemodz> called 2.6.12-10
[03:47] <nofx182> uname -r
[03:47] <navarone> Storkme sry I can't sync my socks to match...<s>
[03:47] <kasemodz> yeah i have been trying to install this wireless card for more than 6 hrs
[03:48] <kasemodz> however a lot of people ahve been able to install just fine
[03:48] <nofx182> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.12-10
[03:48] <rabbit> navarone:  nope.. same problem.  does it work for you?
[03:48] <kasemodz> wut do u think i should do
[03:48] <nofx182> kase did u get the headers
[03:48] <kasemodz> no
[03:48] <kasemodz> should i/
[03:48] <nate__> kasemodz, it may be worth it to unload/remove everything and start over.
[03:48] <navarone> rabbit I have not tried printing docs in linux yet...pdf or otherwise...no ink
[03:48] <kasemodz> so u mean reinstall all of ubuntu
[03:48] <nofx182> sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.12-10
[03:48] <Pippo> hello
[03:48] <nofx182> kase try that
[03:49] <kasemodz> ok thx nofx
[03:49] <rabbit> navarone..   okay, I'm pretty much fed up..   so I'm just going to boot into windows the odd time I need it
[03:49] <rabbit> heh
[03:49] <Pippo> what's the command to install kde?
[03:49] <kasemodz> so should i reove the 2.6.12-10
[03:49] <kasemodz> right now
[03:49] <Storkme> is there any way i can synchronize directories of my 3 ubuntu machines that are connected on my LAN?
[03:49] <kasemodz> then install it
[03:49] <kasemodz> then reinstall
[03:49] <kasemodz> the driver nofx?
[03:49] <nofx182> yeah try
[03:49] <kasemodz> ok thx
[03:49] <nofx182> some installs ask for the right headers like vmware
[03:49] <nofx182> does that
[03:49] <kasemodz> ok
[03:50] <nofx182> kase type uname -r make sure it says 2.6.12-10
[03:50] <kasemodz> also cananyone recommend me a good video/audio stream server software
[03:50] <nofx182> yeah its on ubuntuguide.org
[03:50] <nofx182> i forget the name
[03:50] <kasemodz> something that can transcode a file while streaming
[03:50] <kasemodz> ok ill check it out
[03:51] <Storkme> is there any way i can synchronize directories of my 3 ubuntu machines that are connected on my LAN?
[03:51] <WalrusU> yay. Today I learned to use CTRL-C instead of CTRL-Z. *grabs a beer in celebration*
[03:51] <Kyral> rsync?
[03:51] <kasemodz> btw how do i delete a file or folder from the terminal
[03:51] <Kyral> kasemodz: rm
[03:51] <jariep1__> where do I setup the PATH variable system wide in ubuntu/kubuntu?
[03:51] <kasemodz> ok thx
[03:52] <Kyral> jariep1__: like you do in other distros?
[03:52] <blanky> !ati
[03:52] <ubotu> well, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[03:52] <nofx182> sudo apt-get install gnump3d  is for the streaming media server
[03:52] <WalrusU> I wish there was better non-Raedon ATI 3D support... but I suppose I'll just have to dump this card...
[03:53] <nofx182> walrus ..did u use ndiswrapper
[03:53] <jariep1__> bash.bashrc  or bash.bash_profile, but I can't find this last one
[03:53] <bob832> quick question:  does the firestarter daemon start up automatically after installing it?
[03:53] <WalrusU> nofx182: I think you mean somebody else
[03:53] <nofx182> u have to configure it bob
[03:54] <nickrud> rabbit, jariep1__ /etc/profile
[03:54] <jbzz> jariepl__:  try changing the values within /etc/login.defs    for ubuntu
[03:54] <_jason> bob832, firestarter is a gui frontend for iptables.  iptables always starts up
[03:54] <z0rz> firefox 1.5 install?
[03:54] <kasemodz> wut command to delete a directory or file? i tried rm but won't allow me to delete a folder
[03:54] <rabbit> nickrud..    hrm???
[03:54] <nofx182> after u sudo apt-et install firestarter  i beleieve u have to type firestarter to configure it
[03:54] <cafuego> !ff1.5
[03:54] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:54] <nofx182> kase rm
[03:54] <nickrud> rabbit, sorry, bad tab completion
[03:54] <nofx182> type rm
[03:54] <z0rz> thx
[03:55] <kasemodz> did that nofx
[03:55] <jariep1__> nickrud, thank you
[03:55] <kasemodz> but said cannot delete a driectory
[03:55] <nofx182> sudo rm
[03:55] <rabbit> nickrud, not for me?
[03:55] <kasemodz> did that as well
[03:55] <nofx182> wtf
[03:55] <kasemodz> still same
[03:55] <nofx182> lol
[03:55] <kasemodz> yeah lol
[03:55] <nickrud> rabbit, no, but, I think /usr/share/doc/cups-pdf has some stuff about your problem. I don't have it installed, so I can't check
[03:55] <kasemodz> rm: cannot remove `/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386': Is a directory
[03:55] <kasemodz> thats wut it says
[03:55] <navarone> ummm...kasemod what folder/file are you trying to dlete exactly? <s>
[03:56] <navarone> ahh
[03:56] <bob832> so if i create policies in firestarter gui, does firestarter always have to be running for them to take affect?
[03:56] <_jason> bob832, nope
[03:56] <kasemodz> its the kenel 2.6.12-10 that my realtek driver made during isntallation
[03:56] <kasemodz> its root
[03:56] <nickrud> rabbit, if that was you, again :)
[03:56] <kasemodz> im running 2.6.12.-9
[03:56] <Storkme> do i need to run from a livecd in order to partition?
[03:56] <bob832> ahh, ok, thanks
[03:56] <nofx182> what stork me ?
[03:56] <nofx182> what is ur question
[03:56] <nickrud> bob832, no, firestarter installs some hooks that run a script to load up your iptables
[03:57] <navarone> kasemodz, you can probably uninstall that in synaptic
[03:57] <kasemodz> well its not really installed
[03:57] <rabbit> nickrud, that dir has changelogs, copyright, and a readme file
[03:57] <kasemodz> basically raltek driver runs on 2.6.10-12
[03:57] <Storkme> nofx182, do i need to boot from the livecd in order to make a partition?
[03:57] <kasemodz> and i have older version
[03:57] <kasemodz> and in the folder
[03:57] <kasemodz> all it has are the realtke modules
[03:57] <nofx182> l..if u want to change the one u are curretnly in then yes
[03:57] <kasemodz> nothing else
[03:57] <nickrud> rabbit, if my memory serves, you have to tell cups to run as root, not as cupsys. the readme should have details
[03:57] <nofx182> but if u want to partition a free space then u can do it ubuntu
[03:58] <nate__> exit
[03:58] <nate__> fuck
[03:58] <nate__> i'm used tot he terminal :P
[03:58] <nofx182> knoppix will be a great boot cd
[03:58] <Storkme> i see
[03:58] <Storkme> i suck at partitioning
[03:58] <nofx182> stork what do u need to do
[03:58] <Storkme> i'll end up screwing it up
[03:58] <jrenato> hello __max_
[03:58] <_jason> !enter
[03:58] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[03:59] <quidam-> hi, i try to install amule but i have a error
[03:59] <navarone> you can boot from install cd and type rescue at prompt as well...installed filesystem will be unmounted unless you mount them then
[03:59] <Storkme> nofx182, i want to split my current partition in half, so i can install ubuntu 64-bit
[03:59] <nofx182> storkme what is your prmary goal of partitioning , duel boot or what
[03:59] <quidam-> can anybody helpme
[03:59] <WalrusU> omg! that was 4 lines! kick ubotu  ;)
[03:59] <jrenato> do you speak english
[03:59] <jrenato> ?
[03:59] <nofx182> ok, yes stork u need a boot cd
[03:59] <Storkme> ok
[03:59] <kasemodz> ok ill brb i guess ill login as root and delete the folder through the gui
[03:59] <nofx182> stork listen though, the way linux works is there are multiple partitons, so makesure that u cut all the current partions in half
[03:59] <_jason> quidam-, go to the pastebin, paste your error there, give us the url please
[03:59] <Stork> ok
[03:59] <blanky> what's the fglrxgears comand
[03:59] <Stork> i'll be right back
[03:59] <kasemodz> nofx dont leave lol i may have questions
[03:59] <blanky> *command
[03:59] <blanky> glx_gears ?
[04:00] <rabbit> nickrud..  do I have to "add" this printer?  or is the the pdf one that is already present??
[04:00] <borisattva> hello, after last full reinstall of ubuntu it inexplicably did not auto detect my LAN. i'l trying to see if it was because the WORKGROUP is not stndard but i dont know where to configure that. where can i do that?
[04:01] <quidam-> _jason, http://pastebin.com/506241
[04:01] <nickrud> rabbit, yes, you do. It should show up as a pdf virtual printer (again, if I remember right)
[04:01] <borisattva> also if its any hint my azureus is not able tp do the port test 6881, when it was able to do it with no twekaing from my end on previous reinstalls
[04:01] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[04:01] <jrenato> hi aba-
[04:01] <nickrud> thenuke, select a color postscript printer as the type
[04:01] <blanky> guys what's the gears command
[04:01] <blanky> glx_gears?
[04:01] <jrenato> do you speak english?
[04:02] <_jason> quidam-, does apt-get throw you the same error?
[04:02] <liable> err.. glxgears
[04:02] <Pippo> i am installing kde
[04:03] <Nihil_Influenzat> pippo, are you Italian?
[04:03] <Pippo> will  a kde item appear automatically in gdm?
[04:03] <quidam-> _jason, yes
[04:03] <Pippo> Nihil_Influenzat, yes
[04:03] <_jason> quidam-, I don't know what's going on there sry, ask the channel
[04:03] <CrimsonKing> where does ubuntu set its default $CFLAGS
[04:03] <CrimsonKing> *?
[04:03] <Arafangion> Hmm, synaptic on ubuntu is certainly buggy.
[04:03] <quidam-> _jason, ok thanks :)
[04:04] <navarone> Arafangion, how so?
[04:04] <borisattva> anyone?
[04:04] <Arafangion> When you add a custom repo, but then task-switch, it can be hard to get the widnow back.
[04:04] <Arafangion> The dialog does not appear in taskbar, nor does it appear in the alt-tab process.
[04:04] <quidam-> hi people, i need help, i have a problem with aptitude and apt-get, here is the error -> http://pastebin.com/506241
[04:04] <Arafangion> It is probable that the dialog would appear if I closed or minimized everything, but I just xkill'ed it instead.
[04:05] <BastardLinux> can anyone tell me why mplayer and ubuntu don't play nicely?
[04:05] <_jason> BastardLinux, define 'don't play nicely'?
[04:05] <Arafangion> _jason: Bad grammar :)
[04:05] <BastardLinux> yes. I can build mplayer, but I've never had a problem with apt-get and mplayer with the marillat repo
[04:06] <quidam-> anybody knows my problem??? :(
[04:06] <BastardLinux> Arafangion, the deb dependency hell
[04:06] <nickrud> BastardLinux, use the ones in multiverse
[04:06] <quidam-> ooooooooooo im in trouble xD
[04:06] <BastardLinux> I have
[04:06] <Brian111> can anyone help me with ndiswrapper
[04:06] <BastardLinux> I still got trouble with SLIGHT ver diff
[04:06] <Arafangion> BastardLinux: I have never had any trouble with the "deb dependency hell", ever.
[04:06] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[04:06] <BastardLinux> Arafangion, interesting.
[04:06] <nickrud> BastardLinux, those are build using debian libs, which have binary incompabilities with ubuntu
[04:06] <Arafangion> BastardLinux: And I should know - I run mixed Sid/Sarge installs.
[04:07] <_jason> BastardLinux, mplayer is in the repos
[04:07] <BastardLinux> but you used _just_ multiverse yes?
[04:07] <BastardLinux> I see
[04:07] <rabbit> nickrud..  where does it show up?  In step 1 of adding printer, I see 1 local detected printer called "PDF printer"
[04:07] <BastardLinux> I bet my marillat entries were hosing me :(
[04:07] <nickrud> rabbit, that would be it
[04:07] <Arafangion> BastardLinux: I tend to be very wary of third-party repos.
[04:07] <nickrud> BastardLinux, guaranteed
[04:07] <rabbit> nickrud:  what do I use for manufacterer??
[04:08] <BastardLinux> me too, but I do trusted that one for mplayer/mencoder etc.
[04:08] <nickrud> rabbit, um, i think I used an apple color laser that understood postscript
[04:08] <nofx182> i like xine-ui
[04:08] <BastardLinux> mplayer > *
[04:08] <BastardLinux> expect for the menu support thing
[04:08] <rabbit> nickrud: hmm generic may work.. there's "Postscript Printer"
[04:08] <rabbit> nickrud: use that?
[04:08] <Brian111> is there anyone on here that i can wait for that knows something about ndiswrapper because everytime i come here no one knows
[04:09] <nickrud> rabbit, or, yeah, I think you are seeing the right thing, one should be mentioned as being a color version
[04:09] <BastardLinux> Brian111, you mean for like a windows driver to work with your wifi card or some'n?
[04:09] <rabbit> nickrud: yes there is a color one.. I'll try
[04:09] <Brian111> yes
[04:09] <hikenboot> if i can see a file with ls -al and it says -rw-r--r--    1 root      root      5173600 2006-01-14 20:54 limewire-pro_4.9.23-1_i386.deb then why cant I access it or do chown or chmod a+xrw to it?
[04:09] <BastardLinux> what chipset. it may be supported in the kernel now
[04:09] <Brian111> it sets up and no problem and it says driver present hardware present
[04:10] <Brian111> but wlan0 doesnt show up
[04:10] <Brian111> its a usb adaptor
[04:10] <Brian111> so i looked at the ndiswrapper instructions on sourceforge
[04:10] <Brian111> and it IS supported under ndiswrapper 1.7
[04:10] <BastardLinux> HiddenFly, deb -i <file>
[04:10] <navarone> hikenboot, are you trying to install limewire?
[04:10] <CrimsonKing> are there any obvious reasons why a ./configure on ubuntu would ignore my environments, $CFLAGS?
[04:10] <Brian111> so i grabbed the source for it on windows (which i am on now)
[04:10] <BastardLinux> Brian111, ifconfig wlan0 up
[04:10] <Brian111> and then stuck it on a flash key
[04:10] <Brian111> i tried
[04:10] <nofx182> sudo ifup wlan0
[04:11] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[04:11] <Brian111> if i go iwconfig it shows that there is lo eth0 and sit0
[04:11] <Brian111> no wlan0
[04:11] <hikenboot> yes i have limewire pro which i used a long time ago but for some reason after a reinstall I can not access this file any longer
[04:11] <BastardLinux> check dmesg and make sure there are no warning, /var/log/syslog too
[04:11] <Brian111> so, then i try to compile ndiswrapper from source and NO GO
[04:11] <Brian111> it won't compile
[04:11] <Brian111> i tried making a deb out of it
[04:11] <BastardLinux> Brian111, your driver prolly isnt loaded
[04:11] <Brian111> won't compile
[04:11] <BastardLinux> what is the driver name?
[04:11] <Brian111> it says it is loaded
[04:11] <nofx182> brian did u alien the file
[04:11] <navarone> hikenboot,  cd to to directory with deb and type without quotes "sudo dpkg -i <filename.deb>
[04:11] <Brian111> neta5agu
[04:11] <BastardLinux> what driver?
[04:12] <Brian111> neta5agu
[04:12] <BastardLinux> eww
[04:12] <Brian111> and the other one there
[04:12] <BastardLinux> lsmod|grep neta
[04:12] <Brian111> the athjwojasldk (i don't know the actual keys)
[04:12] <Brian111> what will that do
[04:12] <BastardLinux> for fun, ifconfig ath0 up
[04:12] <Brian111> tried
[04:12] <nvez> hey guys, little question.
[04:12] <Brian111> i can't try it right now though because im on windows
[04:12] <hikenboot> ah i see your saying that its located in a subdirectory i understand
[04:13] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: may i suggest a nick change before some other op takes action?
[04:13] <nvez> Can you force ubuntu to use 10MBIT full duplex?
[04:13] <moodsoft> how do I restart a daemon?
[04:13] <Brian111> ok so ill try ath0, and wlan0 again
[04:13] <BastardLinux> Brian111, you need to reboot and check syslog for errors about the driver loading. did you put it in /etc/modules?
[04:13] <Brian111> yeah
[04:13] <johndarkhorse> nvez: it should do so automagically
[04:13] <nofx182> dude fucking newengland better win ...omg they have to score!
[04:13] <Brian111> i did both ndiswrapper -m and since that didnt add i added it manually
[04:14] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, I see nothing inappropriate about my nick
[04:14] <beelzebub1987> I'm in dire need of assistance. Anyone here know how to create an ISO file out of a folder?
[04:14] <rabbit> nickrud: hmmm  it works...
[04:14] <dell500> does anyone here know how I can get my ipod to connect properly in fstab?
[04:14] <beelzebub1987> or perhaps convert it from .zip to .ISO
[04:14] <Brian111> you don't mind telling me these instructions in a pm eh? so i can save them to a .txt file without all the rest?
[04:14] <rabbit> nickrud:   but it's not "rotating the pages"  like I'm trying to do..
[04:14] <nvez> johndarkhorse: nope, because my card is autodetect but I messed up my wire and it works only as 10mbit.
[04:14] <rabbit> nickrud:  and the file sizes are huge!
[04:14] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: my advice is based on behaviour from other ops. take it or don't.
[04:14] <nvez> and I have to force it to use 10mbit
[04:14] <BastardLinux> mkisofs -o /tmp/file.iso /path/to/
[04:14] <beelzebub1987> Thanks Bastard
[04:14] <liable> heh
[04:15] <beelzebub1987> it doesn't have to be in /temp does it?
[04:15] <nickrud> rabbit, I didn't write it :)
[04:15] <BastardLinux> no
[04:15] <beelzebub1987> didn't think so
[04:15] <Brian111> this is frustrating
[04:15] <beelzebub1987> thanks though
[04:15] <BastardLinux> -o is the /output/file
[04:15] <BastardLinux> -R is rock ridge
[04:15] <BastardLinux> --help
[04:15] <rabbit> nickrud: well come one nickrud..    oh and while you're up.. could you save the world too? thanks
[04:15] <Brian111> alright BastardLinux, what else can you say? Just the error message?
[04:16] <nvez> anyone has any idea how to FORCE my card to go on 10mbit as it auto changes to 100 and 100 doesn't work.
[04:16] <BastardLinux> I haven't played with the ndis stuff for a long time
[04:16] <nvez> and never changes to 10
[04:16] <floppyears> hi
[04:16] <floppyears> could somebody suggest me some good software to convert some ogg files into mp3 ?
[04:16] <Brian111> is it a bad driver? the neta5agu
[04:16] <BastardLinux> sounds like you don't have a driver for your device
[04:16] <BastardLinux> do lspci -vv
[04:16] <BastardLinux> and see how it reports your device
[04:16] <Brian111> well under ndiswrapper - l it tells me its loaded
[04:16] <BastardLinux> also check lsusb
[04:16] <rabbit> nickrud:  yeah no rotating at all... bummer
[04:16] <Brian111> lsusb shows it
[04:16] <BastardLinux> it may not be loading your usb stuff
[04:16] <Brian111> as a D-Link yada yada
[04:17] <floppyears> anybody ?
[04:17] <Brian111> should i try to get libusb from the apt packages that are on the system but not installed?
[04:17] <nvez> floppyears: I'm sure a small google search would find the answer.
[04:17] <BastardLinux> and you have the usb-net stuff loaded as well
[04:17] <kasemodz> alright xfx u there
[04:17] <BastardLinux> flogiston, oggenc
[04:17] <hippie23> I have a problem
[04:17] <nickrud> rabbit, there's a executable called pdf2pdf or pdftopdf, try searching on packages.ubuntu.com for what package it's in. You might be able to resize the pdf
[04:17] <ficusplanet> Hey everyone.  I still can't get sound to play over my two Ubuntu boxes.  They both have an AC97 codec based device that is detected properly and all of the apps seem to interact properly with.  There is just no sound from the speakers except from line-in based source like TVTime.  What could this possibly be?
[04:17] <Brian111> is that package?
[04:17] <kasemodz> i did sudo apt-get install kernel-headers-2.6.12-10
[04:17] <floppyears> nvez: yes, but I was looking for some popular and friendly :)
[04:17] <hippie23> why wont windows apps install in wine?
[04:17] <kasemodz> but said couldn't find package
[04:18] <Brian111> i also have the kernel headers for compiling 1.7... ok so recap, libusb, usb-net, check syslog and dmsg
[04:18] <BastardLinux> ficusplanet, are you using the ivtv drivers?
[04:18] <navarone> ficusplanet, run amixer in terminala nd see that all sources are not muted
[04:18] <hikenboot> is there a way to get ls command to list directory paths too for each file?
[04:18] <Brian111> lspci -vv
[04:18] <BastardLinux> hikenboot, find -type d /path/to/list
[04:18] <hippie23> the apps go through the process of installing, but they dont show up anywere in the filesystem
[04:18] <ficusplanet> BastardLinux, I'm not sure what the tv card driver is - it's a cheap hauppage deteced by breezy.  navarone, It's not muted.
[04:18] <rabbit> nickrud:  can't find either of those?
[04:19] <Brian111> ok bastardlinux ill try that
[04:19] <BastardLinux> ficusplanet, does xmms or system sounds play?
[04:19] <BastardLinux> and alsa is muted by default iirc
[04:19] <nickrud> rabbit, I'm working from memory of a couple of years ago when I needed pdf stuff. I think I've reached the point where it fuzzes out
[04:19] <rabbit> nickrud:  that's okay, thanks for the help
[04:20] <rabbit> nickrud: good enough for now.. I'll live
[04:20] <nickrud> rabbit, well, at least you're printing :)
[04:20] <haasteem> hi, has anyone had trouble with azureus after installing openoffice2?
[04:20] <ficusplanet> BastardLinux, Even the bongo at login does not sound.  It is not muted, though, I've looked at alsamixer (even though sound isn't muted by default in Ubuntu) and tvtime plays sound just fine.
[04:20] <nbound> whats the directory where wine sets up its fake c drive?
[04:20] <BastardLinux> sounds to me like it is using the wrong input for the sound
[04:21] <BastardLinux> I assume all the alsa a7 stuff is loaded
[04:21] <navarone> ficusplanet, have you changed the output input thingys in System/Preferences/MultiMedia Selector?
[04:21] <Arafangion> nbound: Depends.
[04:21] <BastardLinux> try chaning the input. like rmmod the driver and modprobe -with=input=whatever ?
[04:21] <nbound> Arafangion, the default one setup by winecfg
[04:21] <ficusplanet> navarone, Nope.  And these aren't just gstreamer apps - it's also the xine version of totem.
[04:21] <Arafangion> nbound: I don't know, check your ~/.wine
[04:22] <nbound> wheres that =S
[04:22] <haasteem> after installing openoffice2, azureus won't work properly anymore... i think it has something to do with java
[04:22] <nvez> anyone knows how to force my NIC to use 10baseT/Full?
[04:22] <BastardLinux> /home/nbound/.wine
[04:22] <nbound> Arafangion, ohhh lol
[04:22] <nbound> dir
[04:22] <BastardLinux> miit-tool -R 10baseT/Full
[04:22] <BastardLinux> or simular
[04:22] <BastardLinux> -R
[04:22] <ficusplanet> BastardLinux, a7 stuff?
[04:22] <BastardLinux> whatever that driver name is
[04:23] <BastardLinux> and I mean mii-tool -F
[04:23] <haasteem> has anyone had that problem also?
[04:23] <BastardLinux> <-- silly fingers
[04:23] <Orborde> Where is the DNS resolver cache stored?
[04:23] <ficusplanet> BastardLinux, Yes, the devices are loaded.  I can pop open gnome-volume-control and play with the settings and I have a device for OSS and ALSA.
[04:23] <nbound> whats the linux equivalent of deltree
[04:24] <Arafangion> nbound: Umm... "rm"
[04:24] <BastardLinux> ficusplanet, are your speakers plugged in properly?
[04:24] <nbound> thx
[04:24] <nickrud> rm -r <dir>
[04:24] <BastardLinux> and turned on?
[04:24] <Orborde> nbound: BUT BE CAREFUL!
[04:24] <nbound> why?
[04:24] <ficusplanet> BastardLinux, Dude.  TvTime works perfectly.  The speakers, therefore, are obviously on and plugged in properly.
[04:24] <nbound> just removing a botched wine game install
[04:24] <nvez> Apparently it's "mii-tool -F 10baseTx-FD" -- Thank BastardLinux :-D
[04:25] <Orborde> nbound: Well, just be careful with rm -r in general, as you would with deltree.
[04:25] <nbound> yeah =P
[04:25] <Arafangion> nbound: And pray that you have no hardlinks in there.
[04:25] <Orborde> nbound: rm -r doesn't even ask for confirmation
[04:25] <nbound> rm -r / ;P
[04:25] <BastardLinux> ficusplanet, sounds like it is using the input for your tuner card
[04:25] <BastardLinux> you can test that by plugging in the output of your cd player or something into the in of your tuner
[04:25] <BastardLinux> and you will prolly get sound
[04:26] <BastardLinux> you need to tell the driver what input and card to use
[04:26] <nnonix> On occasion I have an issue right clicking on items in gnome. I right-click and the menu opens for a split second and closes. Sometimes I have to retry several times for the menu to open and stay open. Normally right-click is ok, and it seems to be a random occurance but it happens often enough to be a big pain. This mouse works fine in windows. It also always works while connected via remote desktop to a windows machine. Anyone have any ideas?
[04:26] <kasemodz> anyone know how to install linux-headers 2.6.12-10
[04:26] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[04:26] <kasemodz> i mean kernel -headers
[04:26] <BastardLinux> kafeine, apt-get install
[04:27] <Arafangion> nbound: I once did rm -rf ~
[04:27] <nbound> hehe
[04:27] <nbound> is there a way i can access the fake drive in nautilus (just so i can check what im deleting?)
[04:27] <nickrud> kasemodz, sudo apt-get install linux-headers 2.6.12-10
[04:27] <BastardLinux> kafeine, apt-cache search kernel-headers, then paste the one you want after:: apt-get install
[04:27] <Arafangion> nbound: "fake drive"?
[04:27] <nbound> Arafangion, the one wine sets up
[04:27] <BastardLinux> nbound, use mount, and see what is mounted then ls /mnt/foo
[04:27] <nickrud> nbound, it's somewhere under .wine
[04:28] <mkyb14_> has anyone used desk3d in ubuntu?
[04:28] <Orborde> Where is the DNS resolver cache stored?
[04:28] <kasemodz> nickrud i did that but i got this
[04:28] <nbound> nickrud, u cant see that in nautilus.. only terminal
[04:28] <BastardLinux> nbound, that would just be /home/nbound/fake\ windows
[04:28] <nickrud> kasemodz, don't paste
[04:28] <kasemodz> ok
[04:28] <BastardLinux> Orborde, /var/cache/bind
[04:28] <kasemodz> well basically it says the kernel-headers is not available
[04:28] <Arafangion> nbound: On linux, "dot files", files that begin with a '.', are hidden.
[04:28] <kasemodz> it is referred to by another package
[04:28] <nickrud> nbound, on the menu for nautilus, choose show hidden files
[04:29] <_clemens> Question about ejabberd anyone?
[04:29] <nbound> thx nickrud and Arafangion
[04:29] <Orborde> BastardLinux: Er...I don't have bind installed.
[04:29] <BastardLinux> kafeine, that is why you do a search and then copy/paste the pkg you want
[04:30] <nbound> nickrud, didnt work =/
[04:30] <BastardLinux> Orborde, then I am probably quite wrong =p
[04:30] <nbound> nickrud, i know its there though i can access it in terminal
[04:30] <_clemens> I need some help with ejabberd?
[04:31] <nbound> nickrud, dont worry just rad to restart nautilus
[04:31] <mauro> how do I install rpm files
[04:31] <nickrud> mauro, you don't, you look for an equivalent deb
[04:32] <haasteem> hi, has anyone had trouble with azureus after installing openoffice2?
[04:32] <haasteem> after installing openoffice2, azureus won't work properly anymore... i think it has something to do with java
[04:32] <BastardLinux> alien
[04:32] <haasteem> has anyone had that problem also?
[04:32] <nickrud> well, you know what aliens do
[04:32] <Nihil_Influenzat> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[04:32] <BastardLinux> mauro, alien
[04:32] <nickrud> mauro, what rpm is it you want to install?
[04:32] <Brian1111> alright bastardlinux
[04:33] <Brian1111> didn't work
[04:33] <Brian1111> it shows up under lsusb
[04:33] <Brian1111> not lspci
[04:33] <mauro> vlc media client
[04:33] <nemik> hello, i did a base install and cannot get the PCMCIA wireless card to work, it doesn't even have an 'eth0', but worked when i did a desktop install. what is wrong?
[04:33] <Brian1111> didn't see an error in dmsg
[04:33] <BastardLinux> alien - install non-native packages with dpkg
[04:33] <Brian1111> but then again ndiswrapper isnt loading anymore
[04:33] <Brian1111> i try to modprobe it and it doesnt work
[04:33] <Brian1111> modprobe ndiswrapper gives me a fatal
[04:33] <nickrud> !tell mauro about repos
[04:33] <Brian1111> and it shouldn't
[04:33] <mauro> what is repos
[04:33] <nickrud> mauro, read that msg, then you can install vlc from ubuntu
[04:34] <mauro> ok thank you
[04:34] <Brian1111> and if there is a op here can you kill brian111 (that WAS me but it didnt go away)
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mauro about repos
[04:34] <BastardLinux> yeah, definately use apt-get for vlc mauro only install foreign packages if YOU HAVE TO
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: we don't advise installing any non official packages here
[04:35] <nickrud> mauro, repos (repositories) are sources of packages from ubuntu. There's about 17,000 of them
[04:35] <Brian1111> BastardLinux, any idea?
[04:35] <TecnoVM64> Hello people, is there any way to restore gnome's default settings?
[04:35] <blacks-> rm -rf ~/.gnome2
[04:36] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, me either, but I was just answering a question, not giving advice on said act
[04:36] <TecnoVM64> Tried that :(
[04:36] <TecnoVM64> blacks-, i've already deleted .gnome2 and .gnome, but it's still there
[04:36] <mauro> where do I find repos, ubuntu website
[04:36] <BastardLinux> Brian111, find a native windows driver? I dunno ndis stuff SCARES ME
[04:36] <progrock> when i try to install the ATI fglrx drivers when it tried to auto detect my monitor my system frezes and a bunch of colored lines appear on the moniter
[04:36] <BastardLinux> are repos repositories?
[04:36] <owner> mauro http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:36] <owner> i added all of them
[04:36] <owner> but you have to import the keys
[04:37] <blacks-> probably have to get rid of  .nautilus and stuff, couldn't hurt to do it from single user mode so it doesn't get re-written
[04:37] <nickrud> mauro, that source-o-matic is great, but just use the official ones to start
[04:37] <owner> now i have 17847 packaged listed
[04:37] <Brian1111> ?
[04:37] <TecnoVM64> blacks-, ok, will try that :D
[04:38] <Brian1111> #debi do have a native windows driver
[04:38] <nickrud> TecnoVM64, you also need to remove .gconfd, which should be done from a virtual console with gnome not running
[04:38] <Brian1111> i do have a native driver
[04:38] <Brian1111> its the one i downloaded from the site
[04:39] <yggdrasil> anyone here liike totaly awesome with dual monitor video card setup ?
[04:39] <nickrud> TecnoVM64, gconf controls your gnome settings, and rewrites them every time you close gnome. That's why they just won't die :)
[04:40] <TecnoVM64> oh ok
[04:40] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: yes repos = repositories. and we usually find out what pkg a user wants to install from an rpm, since we have over 17,000 pkgs available. they probably aren't aware of the ubuntu pkg
[04:42] <hippie23>  sorry about the delay, I dont know where wine sets up the fake c drive, it should be my home folder... err at least that what it was when I was using mandrake 10
[04:43] <hippie23> I had a call on the ham radio, so I got a lil delayed
[04:43] <TecnoVM64> Woah, seriously I'm having a weird issue, Gnome starts up, but pops up an empty dialog with the title "Question" and crashes gnome-panel, any ideas?
[04:43] <TecnoVM64> I thought cleaning the settings would solve it, but nope
[04:44] <cafuego> hippie23: is that like skype via wifi? ;-)
[04:44] <ALMSX> Good night for all
[04:44] <hippie23> no... its like CB but with mutch bigger transmitters and antennas
[04:44] <eZe> how can I start the filemanager with sudo?
[04:44] <gunit> I just installed Ubuntu x64 on my system, and it auto recognizes my 200 gb NTFS hdd, but I can only access it as root, which means I can't use the GUI to explore it
[04:44] <cafuego> !dstats
[04:44] <gunit> can anyone help?
[04:44] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18229 packages, 1641 maintainers, 35937 MB installed size, 11172 MB compressed size.
[04:44] <ALMSX> I have one question, What need packages for one network windows, my ubuntu is Breezy badger
[04:45] <Eleaf> loll
[04:45] <kasemodz> alright one question i had kernel 2.6.12-9 and i just upgraded to 2.6.12-10
[04:45] <nickrud> wow, from 10 maintainers to 1600+ in 1 year, not bad
[04:45] <Eleaf> oo
[04:45] <kasemodz> how do i make 10 the default one?
[04:45] <eZe> how can I start the filemanager with sudo?
[04:45] <Eleaf>     ff fff
[04:45] <cafuego> nickrud: Those are maintainers as noticed in the package, ie: lots of debian people.
[04:45] <shua> i have an image of an entire hard disk (not just a partition), how can I go about viewing the contents of the image?
[04:45] <Eleaf> eZe, sudo nautilus
[04:45] <cafuego> !dstats warty
[04:45] <nickrud> cafuego, I forgot the smiley
[04:46] <eZe> thanks
[04:46] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on warty... 15124 packages, 1315 maintainers, 29877 MB installed size, 9519 MB compressed size.
[04:46] <tygryss> hi
[04:46] <Eleaf> yes
[04:46] <kasemodz> anyone?
[04:46] <tygryss> I need a little help, with skype sound, on ubuntu 5.10
[04:46] <tygryss> I have sound in xmms...
[04:46] <ALMSX> anywere helpme!!!!
[04:46] <tygryss> but not in skype
[04:46] <cafuego> tygryss: skype_dsp_hijacker
[04:47] <ALMSX> I`m sorry for my english, is not good :(
[04:47] <gunit> can anyone help?
[04:47] <cafuego> tygryss: You cannot have sound in both simultaneously, becuase skype is badly designed.
[04:47] <hippie23> I want to get access to my winblows drive from linux so I can play my mp3's, How would I go about mounting it, its ntfs file system
[04:47] <mathew> does anyone know how to properly install the ATI driver?
[04:47] <cafuego> !ntfs
[04:47] <mathew> hippie23, I'd love to know the same thing.
[04:47] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[04:47] <sorush20> !automount
[04:47] <hippie23> kill xmms first, then use skype
[04:47] <nickrud> ALMSX, what language do you speak? (there are some language-specific channels)
[04:47] <ubotu> sorush20: Bugger all, i dunno
[04:47] <cafuego> hippie23: No, use skype_dsp_hijacker
[04:47] <tygryss> cafuego,  I cant find skyp_dsp_h.
[04:47] <tygryss> where it is ?
[04:48] <sorush20> mathew: you read the wiki on ubuntu about ati?
[04:48] <cafuego> tygryss: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.org/
[04:48] <tygryss> thnx
[04:48] <cafuego> Also has a skype .deb
[04:48] <mathew> Can anyone help me to install the ATI driver to take advantage of my video card?
[04:48] <tygryss> if I will have more Q, I will ask
[04:48] <mathew> sorush20,
[04:48] <mathew> no.
[04:48] <ALMSX> thanks nickrud
[04:48] <kasemodz> hey nickrud you helped me last time, this time i was able to install the headers for 2.6.12-10 but now how do i make this header default since i have 2.612-9 installed as well. I'm running 2.6.12-9 right now.
[04:48] <mathew> sorush20, do you have a link?
[04:48] <ALMSX> i`m speak in spanish :D
[04:49] <sorush20> cafuego: are you sure about your repositories? go to source-o-matic on ubuntu
[04:49] <nickrud> kasemodz, I'm not a compiling guru, sorry :)
[04:49] <hippie23> got another call on the radio
[04:49] <hippie23> brb
[04:49] <nickrud> !es
[04:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:49] <kasemodz> alright no problem
[04:49] <sorush20> mathew: no but go to ubuntu.com then click on wiki then seach for upper case ATI then read the howtos, then come back here..
[04:49] <Locke> whats the best e-mail program for Linux?
[04:49] <tygryss> cafuego, that url is bad
[04:50] <sorush20> !source-o-maitc
[04:50] <ubotu> Not a clue, sorush20
[04:50] <johndarkhorse> Locke: the one you like best is the best one
[04:50] <sorush20> anyone know about source o matic
[04:50] <ALMSX> Locke the best is Mozilla Thunderbird
[04:50] <burnhamd> how can i enable daap support in rythmbox
[04:50] <mathew> sorush20, thanks
[04:50] <sorush20> its a website that makes a source page for you..
[04:50] <burnhamd> with avahi
[04:50] <Locke> ALMSX: well, thats the one i'm using, but i'm looking for something that i can iconify
[04:50] <sorush20> mathew: what is your card and are unable to get 3d acceleration?
[04:51] <joruss> what's the best wireless pcmcia card to use/
[04:51] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell joruss about wireless
[04:52] <ALMSX> Locke I`m use BReezy Badger 5.10
[04:52] <Locke> ALMSX: ummm... so am i?
[04:52] <burnhamd> is daap enaabled in rhythmbox on dapper by default??
[04:52] <ALMSX> i can`t undestand :(
[04:53] <sorush20> burnhamd: I tried dapper but it crashed.. I have been getting the message that instlaling dapper is very risky..
[04:53] <mathew> sorush20, it's a X700 pro
[04:53] <burnhamd> sorush20: I run dapper most of the day
[04:53] <nickrud> burnhamd, no, I don't think so.
[04:53] <sorush20> mathew: did you manage read the how to and setup ?
[04:53] <burnhamd> nickrud: so i must compile it myself or find a deb then?
[04:53] <ALMSX> Locke, Where are you from???
[04:54] <sorush20> who asked about ntfs?
[04:54] <Locke> wtf?
[04:54] <mathew> Locke, island in the south pacific?
[04:54] <sorush20> is there a visual representation of a partitioned hdd ?
[04:54] <nickrud> burnhamd, I probably should have spoken up, cuz I'm not certain about ti
[04:54] <Locke> ok, woah, why does anybody care???
[04:54] <burnhamd> nickrud thanks anyway
[04:54] <mathew> Locke, you watch LOST?
[04:55] <Locke> wtf, ok, i'm not here to get 20 questions
[04:55] <clearscreen> bsg & sga > lost :P
[04:55] <burnhamd> isnt john locke a guy that i learned about in history class
[04:55] <Arafangion> Which kernel source should I use?
[04:55] <Arafangion> I like to use the same one that glibc was compiled with.
[04:56] <firebird_> does anyone know if I can just use 'setup /dev/fd0 (hd3,1)' in grub to be able to boot from a floppy?
[04:56] <LinuxMonk> hry guys this is fairly odd, I try to install ubuntu from a pressed cd I got and all i get is to the part were its loading installer components and it says it cant load E2FS....
[04:56] <burnhamd> firebird_: not sure but why not just boot from a floppy from the bios
[04:57] <ALMSX> good bye for all
[04:57] <ALMSX> thanks locke
[04:57] <firebird_> eh :) how do you mean burnhamd?
[04:57] <ALMSX> bye
[04:57] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[04:57] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:58] <burnhamd> firebird_: i have an option in the bios of my computer that boots from a floppy when one contains boot info
[04:58] <BxL> thank you ubotu
[04:58] <burnhamd> firebird_:most do
[04:58] <firebird_> yeah, that's enabled :) but I'd like to create a boot disk using grub that automatically refers to my menu.lst files on my linux partition
[04:59] <LinuxMonk> any idea guys?
[04:59] <haasteem> hi, has anyone had trouble with azureus after installing openoffice2?
[04:59] <haasteem> after installing openoffice2, azureus won't work properly anymore... i think it has something to do with java
[04:59] <burnhamd> firebied_:for what reason If i may ask
[04:59] <haasteem> has anyone had that problem also?
[04:59] <eno__> so, earlier tonight I was told that to compile a kernel you just tupe make and that does it, bt it did not work, it says "command not found"
[04:59] <eno__> so how do I do it?
[04:59] <nickrud> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToMakeAGRUBBootFloppy <--- firebird_
[05:00] <firebird_> thx nickrud :)
[05:00] <nickrud> firebird_, yw
[05:00] <_jason> haasteem, see if you have more than one java installed
[05:00] <sethk> haasteem, why do you think it is related to java?
[05:00] <burnhamd> haasteem: probably has to do with the java dependencies openoffice can use gcj while azureus uses the blackhawk or sun implementations
[05:00] <BastardLinux> eno, oops, you need some devel tools. it is actually make all
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell haasteem about multijava
[05:01] <sethk> eno__, even if make is found, it isn't anywhere near that simple
[05:01] <eno__> oh god
[05:01] <sethk> eno__, but first, it appears that you need to install make, which is part of the development essentials
[05:01] <haasteem> ok
[05:01] <burnhamd> but i never had a problem with them interfereing
[05:01] <eno__> so sudo apt-get install something?
[05:01] <psusi> so... anyone have a sata hardware (fake)raid and feel like beta testing the package to support it?  just might squeeze it in for dapper
[05:01] <sethk> eno__, don't panic, it is quite possible, but not quite that simple
[05:01] <eno__> oh phews
[05:01] <burnhamd> can someone get ubotu to tell ne about multijava
[05:01] <haasteem> _jason: i probably have more than one java
[05:01] <_jason> haasteem, see what ubotu told you
[05:01] <eno__> sethk: you have me on an emotional rollercoaster
[05:02] <LordCrusader> how do i do an advanced installation?
[05:02] <haasteem> _jason: when i do java -version it says 1.4.2, whereas i just installed 1.5.0._06
[05:02] <sethk> eno__, start by installing the  missing development stuff, you'll get nowhere without it
[05:02] <eno__> ok
[05:02] <eno__> I am checking synaptic
[05:02] <_jason> eno, build-essential
[05:02] <BastardLinux> haasteem, are they both in /usr/lib ?
[05:03] <eno__> _jason: thanks
[05:03] <haasteem> BastardLinux: no
[05:03] <BastardLinux> er
[05:03] <BastardLinux> I was talking to the java guy
[05:03] <haasteem> BastardLinux: 1.5.0_06 is in /usr/java
[05:03] <LinuxMonk> anyone ever have the install stop at LOADING INSTALLATION COMPONENTS - E2FSprogs-udeb
[05:03] <BastardLinux> it put 1.4.2 somewhere
[05:04] <LordCrusader> LinuxMonk: No but i had it stop at install xserver before
[05:04] <haasteem> BastardLinux: right, but where?
[05:04] <BastardLinux> try making it a symlink in /usr/lib/jre1.5.0_06 and starting your app
[05:04] <haasteem> _jason: that doesn't work... the path for the most recent java version is not in the list i get
[05:04] <LinuxMonk> bah cause i cant get it to go through on any of the cd's here, i got like 30 pressed cd and like 10 burnt CD's
[05:05] <_jason> haasteem, how did you install it
[05:05] <haasteem> _jason: you mean 1.5.0?
[05:05] <_jason> haasteem, yeah
[05:05] <s_spiff> antone here tried backing up the downloaded stuff...as in whatever updates you;ve downoaded? if not, how to do it?
[05:05] <tygryss> thnx guys , skype is working
[05:05] <eno__> ok, so build essential is on now
[05:05] <haasteem> _jason: i followed the instructions on java.com
[05:05] <eno__> do I type make yet?
[05:05] <BastardLinux> spencer@madia:~$ ls /usr/lib/jre1.5.0_06/
[05:06] <_jason> haasteem, that's probably why.  The wiki has instructions for making a package and installing it
[05:06] <eno__> oh hell, I am just gonna type make
[05:06] <haasteem> _jason: ubuntu wiki?
[05:06] <BastardLinux> eno, you have to make menuconfig first
[05:06] <BastardLinux> or xconfig or some such
[05:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell haasteem about java
[05:06] <LinuxMonk> yep haasteem
[05:07] <eno__> oh crap I already typed make
[05:07] <nemik> libXpm.so.4 is missing for me, how do i get this on?
[05:07] <s_spiff> _jason, any timps on how to burn/back up all of the downloaded packages onto a cd/dvd?
[05:07] <sethk> eno__, that's ok, just hit control-c
[05:07] <Fusionfox> i used sudo chmod -rwxrwxrwx /media/hdb1, and now i cannot even access it, it says i dont have enough permissions.. what can i do!?
[05:07] <BastardLinux> s_spiff, mondo/mindi
[05:07] <sethk> eno__, if you type make, it will ask you a bunch of questions
[05:07] <s_spiff> in case of a fresh install, I don't want to do it all over again
[05:07] <s_spiff> whats mondo?
[05:07] <sethk> eno__, but why is it you insist that you want to "just type make"?
[05:07] <eno__> It was... I feel great I have never compiled kernel before.
[05:07] <eno__> sethk: someone told me to do that ealrier
[05:07] <BastardLinux> Fusionfox, sudo chown username.usergroup (your username/group) id
[05:07] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell haasteem about javadebs
[05:08] <sethk> eno__, so, after a bit of work, you'll compile the kernel
[05:08] <BastardLinux> mondo - powerful disaster recovery suite
[05:08] <sethk> eno__, but if you convince yourself that you don't have to do any work, what happens when you get to a step you don't understand?
[05:08] <eno__> sethk: I dig down deep, swallow my pride and move onwards
[05:08] <BastardLinux> eno, apt-get install linux-kernel =p
[05:09] <trollducky> How do I kill the Dapper stage two installer without it just respawning on me?
[05:09] <sethk> eno__, there is no need to swallow anything.  Just take ten or fifteen minutes, read a how-to, and go do it.
[05:09] <BastardLinux> otherwise you have to RTFM :)
[05:09] <s_spiff> BastardLinux, suppose i do a new fresh setup f linux, on my frnds pc, or for that matter, i do it on my pc itself, i don't want to download all the updates again, very time consuming.
[05:09] <eno__> BastardLinux: I need to install 2.4.26 kernel before I can start my openMosix tutorial
[05:09] <s_spiff> so is there a way i can burn them on a cd/dvd?
[05:09] <BastardLinux> eno, hrm.
[05:09] <sethk> s_spiff, sure, it can be done.
[05:09] <sethk> s_spiff, when you are done doing it, you have yourself a distro
[05:10] <BastardLinux> you are gonna muck with openMosix and you don't even have make? ok
[05:10] <Blippe> s_spiff, you wanna make your own livecd?
[05:10] <s_spiff> where are the downloaded packages saved?
[05:10] <Locke> 
[05:10] <BastardLinux> that is a very complicated suite
[05:10] <eno__> sethk: I think you are helpful... this time I will try harder to find a tutorial
[05:10] <edgarin> Howto play midis???
[05:10] <nemik> how would i get my eth0 PCMCIA working from a 'server' install? cardinfo command gives me error...:(
[05:10] <LinuxMonk> psusi ya still got to do that with gentoo
[05:10] <s_spiff> not exactly a live cd
[05:10] <edgarin> in my computer the files .midi not play
[05:10] <BastardLinux> /var/cache/apt/
[05:10] <LinuxMonk> lol
[05:10] <edgarin> :(
[05:10] <sethk> eno__, go to kernel.org, there are several of them
[05:10] <BastardLinux> mplayer /path/to/*.midi
[05:10] <eno__> sethk: that was easy... I am dumb :P
[05:10] <s_spiff>  but i want to get all the stuff on to a dvd, so next time i don't have to download everything all over again
[05:10] <Remmy> Hi all, been having troubles with my kubuntu, as it fails to boot due to an initramfs issue... I have described it on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=116128 but didn't get any response yet. Does anyone now?
[05:10] <trollducky> s_spiff, if you have a DVD burner why not image the entire install, so you can just restore / without running updates at all?
[05:11] <BastardLinux> /var/cache/apt/
[05:11] <psusi> LinuxMonk, never tried gentoo... I started with slackware 3 or something... back in 95
[05:11] <BastardLinux> that is where the pkgs are kept after dl
[05:11] <LinuxMonk> yeah
[05:11] <trollducky> Just consider it a 'restore point'
[05:11] <LinuxMonk> i loved the old slack
[05:11] <haasteem> _jason: ok, let me check it out
[05:11] <s_spiff> trollducky, that isn't my objective, you see I'm  a newb to linux, so everytime i scrwd up hardust do a fresh reinstall...
[05:11] <Fusionfox> BastardLinux: what is my usergroup?
[05:11] <zzadamzz> i love ubuntu!
[05:11] <BastardLinux> Fusionfox, id
[05:11] <BastardLinux> you tell me =p
[05:11] <LinuxMonk> now i love ubuntu/kubuntu
[05:12] <psusi> slackware was bad ass compared to dos 4 ;)
[05:12] <zzadamzz> i prefer ubuntu itself.
[05:12] <zzadamzz> hahas.
[05:12] <LordCrusader> how do i do an advanced installation?
[05:12] <BastardLinux> psusi, haha
[05:12] <s_spiff> and thats why i want to get all the install files of the packages on to a dvd
[05:12] <sethk> s_spiff, you can certainly do that, but it isn't trivial
[05:12] <LinuxMonk> if i can ever get it on my desktop
[05:12] <trollducky> pardon me, s_spiff I didn't understand that
[05:12] <Blippe> !love
[05:12] <ubotu> Love is a snowmobile racing across the tundra, which suddenly flips over, pinning you underneath.  At night, the ice weasels come.
[05:12] <zzadamzz> !love
[05:12] <BastardLinux> !hate
[05:12] <M3t4ll1k0> Fusionfox, try id
[05:12] <ubotu> BastardLinux: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[05:12] <s_spiff> what isn't trivial?
[05:12] <BastardLinux> haha
[05:12] <M3t4ll1k0> !love
[05:12] <BastardLinux> s_spiff, reading
[05:12] <eno__> ubotu is funny
[05:12] <ubotu> eno__: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[05:12] <Blippe> !porn
[05:12] <ubotu> Blippe: Are you on ritalin?
[05:12] <M3t4ll1k0> !hate
[05:13] <psusi> somone around here has to have a sata raid and wants to test dapper's new support for it
[05:13] <trollducky> LordCrusader, type 'expert' at the boot prompt of an Ubuntu install DVD or CD
[05:13] <s_spiff> trollducky, I being a newb, keep scrwing up something or the other, the 1st time i tried installing FF1.5 i did some mess, so neither the old ff nor the new one was working
[05:13] <s_spiff> so i did a fresh setup again..
[05:13] <LinuxMonk> Blippe, porn is what you need as we all know your single and looking for some 1 on 1 with lefty
[05:13] <LinuxMonk> lmao
[05:13] <LordCrusader> ??
[05:13] <M3t4ll1k0> how I can eneable DMA in a sata drive?
[05:13] <Blippe> !DMA
[05:14] <M3t4ll1k0> !DMA
[05:14] <BastardLinux> hdparm -g /dev/foo
[05:14] <_torkel> psusi: sure I can test that sata-raid, do you ship me some sata-disks while your at it? :P and a controller
[05:14] <BastardLinux> is it -g?
[05:14] <LordCrusader> no i need to do an advanced installation for MSN for Ubuntu
[05:14] <trollducky> s_spiff, that sounds like all the more reason to image your / partition to me
[05:14] <BastardLinux> hdparm -h
[05:14] <Remmy> !fix_my_computer
[05:14] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Remmy
[05:14] <s_spiff>  now everytime i do it, I will have to download the updates, to preven that, i want to back up stuff.
[05:14] <psusi> _torkel, hehe
[05:14] <LordCrusader> it say to use an advanced installation because i already have gaim
[05:14] <Remmy> I have it on line 158 :(
[05:14] <s_spiff> ok..will try that..
[05:14] <M3t4ll1k0> BastardLinux, hdparm dont work
[05:14] <BastardLinux> -q
[05:14] <M3t4ll1k0> in sata devices
[05:14] <BastardLinux> -Q
[05:14] <BastardLinux> oh
[05:14] <BastardLinux> surry
[05:14] <BastardLinux> use some super whammyt sata util =p
[05:14] <haasteem> _jason: i get a whole bunch of permissions denied when doing fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[05:15] <psusi> hdparm works with sata devices in newer kernels...
[05:15] <s_spiff> trollducky, does k3b have backup/iso'ing of files?
[05:15] <trollducky> LordCrusader, oh sorry then   :$ apt-get install aMSN  (or GAIM or Kopete)
[05:15] <haasteem> _jason: including cp: cannot create regular file `/usr/java/sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb': Permission denied
[05:15] <psusi> I forget if that made it into breezy or not.. but it works in dapper
[05:15] <BastardLinux> haasteem, if java is installed in /usr/java just symlink it like I said
[05:15] <psusi> anyhow... dma is enabled by default for sata
[05:15] <M3t4ll1k0> in sata devices
[05:15] <M3t4ll1k0> !DMA
[05:15] <BastardLinux> haasteem, cd
[05:15] <BastardLinux> haasteem, or do it as root
[05:15] <haasteem> BastardLinux: cd?
[05:16] <eno__> I think ncurses is a package designed to piss you off
[05:16] <_jason> haasteem, probably because of the previous install
[05:16] <BastardLinux> change directory
[05:16] <LinuxMonk> 10 minutes to download another 600MB ISo, Gawd i love my high speed
[05:16] <BastardLinux> you don't have rights in that diretory as your current user
[05:16] <haasteem> BastardLinux: to when do i symlink it again?
[05:16] <haasteem> *where
[05:16] <BastardLinux> /usr/lib/jre1.5.0_06/
[05:17] <haasteem> _jason: how could i solve that?
[05:17] <trollducky> s_spiff, copying ISOs yes -- backing up drives the in order to make a drive image, I don't think so.  You'll probably have to learn to use dd or search for a back-up package (like amada or konserve) then check the docs to see if they can do partition tables, etc.
[05:17] <BastardLinux> if /usr/java really is the 1.5 jre that should work
[05:17] <_jason> haasteem, i'm wrong do what BastardLinux said.  do it in home somewhere
[05:17] <LinuxMonk> _jason ya got a list of what ubotu has to offer?
[05:17] <Nihil85> hi!when i boot linux, the system tell me: "Filesystem with errors. entry "accels" in /root/.gnome2 (3178503) has an incorrect file type (was 2, should be 1); unexpected inconsistency, run fsck manually
[05:17] <psusi> for backup, tar works just fine
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0> BastardLinux,
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0> /dev/sda:
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0>  setting using_dma to 1 (on)
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0>  HDIO_SET_DMA failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[05:17] <LordCrusader> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[05:17] <s_spiff> ok..will do that..thanks
[05:17] <BastardLinux> Nihil85, then fsck -yp /dev/whatever
[05:17] <_jason> LinuxMonk,  ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[05:17] <haasteem> _jason: ok
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0> this is what a get
[05:17] <LordCrusader> that is what happens when i put whatever you told me to put in
[05:17] <BastardLinux> LordCrusader, sudo
[05:17] <M3t4ll1k0> whit hdparm
[05:18] <Nihil85> thanks BastardLinux!
[05:18] <LordCrusader> sudo?
[05:18] <BastardLinux> LordCrusader, or wait for your other apt-get to finish =p
[05:18] <trollducky> :$ apt-cache search backup > ~/backup.foo; vi ~/backup.foo
[05:18] <tygryss> re
[05:18] <haasteem> BastardLinux: crap, how do i symlink again (sorry, i'm not very experienced with linux yet)
[05:18] <LinuxMonk> thanks _jason
[05:18] <matthewjames> can someone help me with xserver?
[05:18] <LordCrusader> ??
[05:18] <haasteem> _jason: thanks for your help
[05:18] <LordCrusader> i'm a little ubunut illiterit
[05:18] <BastardLinux> cd /usr/lib ; ln -s /usr/java/ jre.........
[05:18] <psusi> M3t4ll1k0, I said already, dma is enabled by default for sata drives
[05:19] <BastardLinux> DON'T PASTE THAT
[05:19] <matthewjames> can someone help me with xserver?
[05:19] <_jason> haasteem, I meant run that command in your home directory, the fakeroot one
[05:19] <BastardLinux> matthewjames, maybe.
[05:19] <M3t4ll1k0> psusi, hdparm says that is off
[05:19] <psusi> trollducky, tar -czf backup.tar.gz -l --exclude=backup.tar.gz / works great for me
[05:19] <trollducky> Now can anyone tell me howto kill the Dapper installer -- it seems to be running as a system daemon (it won't die with kill -9 -- just respawns)
[05:19] <BastardLinux> didn't you just say hdparm didn't work with hdparm?
[05:19] <M3t4ll1k0> an the benchmarcs are realy porr
[05:19] <haasteem> _jason: ok
[05:20] <matthewjames> BastardLinux: i can log into ubuntu, but when i type command, startx, it wont work, errors
[05:20] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, that usually means that the driver and the kernel aren't quite talking to each other correctly
[05:20] <clearscreen> I just love digitally imported :P
[05:20] <haasteem> _jason: are you sure? it says now that the bin file does not exist
[05:20] <tygryss> I have a problem with nvidia-glx
[05:20] <BastardLinux> trollducky, I don't know, what process is it running under? does it have init script in /etc/init.d ?
[05:20] <psusi> M3t4ll1k0, if hd parm can see if it is enabled, it should be able to enable it
[05:20] <_jason> haasteem, yeah you have to move that there too :P
[05:20] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, do a performance test.  If dma is off, the performance will be dismal.  If the performance is good, ignore the dma flag
[05:20] <tygryss> I installed it, and enabled nvidia
[05:20] <psusi> M3t4ll1k0, but iirc, it can only do that with pata in breezy, not sata
[05:20] <tygryss> but the driver didn't start
[05:21] <matthewjames> BastardLinux: i can log into ubuntu, but when i type command, startx, it wont work, errors
[05:21] <tygryss> gdm stoped
[05:21] <sorush20> how do I refresh kde menu?
[05:21] <matthewjames> how fix it?
[05:21] <BastardLinux> matthewjames, you need to investigate /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:21] <haasteem> _jason: :) duh huh... could've come up with that one
[05:21] <matthewjames> it wont let me
[05:21] <matthewjames> permisian denied
[05:21] <trollducky> psusi, that'll get all the files on the target, but what about partition tables -- a real backup image should copy them too.
[05:21] <BastardLinux> less /var/log/Xorg.0.log and look at the end of the file for clues
[05:21] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, the performace in the test in poor
[05:21] <tygryss> can't open /dev/nvidia0
[05:21] <tygryss> why ?
[05:21] <matthewjames> it wont let me
[05:21] <matthewjames> permisian denied
[05:22] <BastardLinux> matthewjames, sudo -s
[05:22] <matthewjames> whats that do?
[05:22] <BastardLinux> that will give you a root shell in your vterm
[05:22] <matthewjames> k
[05:22] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, I've had one very strange problem where I can't get dma working if I compile the kernel on the same machine.
[05:22] <BastardLinux> you type your user pass
[05:22] <matthewjames> then i type/
[05:22] <BastardLinux> and it gives you root
[05:22] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, what's your processor/memory?
[05:22] <trollducky> Also, he'll also have to make chunks so it'll fit on media (assuming the install is not tiny)
[05:22] <psusi> trollducky, what for?  they don't contain anything important... you know how you want the system partitioned, and you may want to change it... so no need to back that up
[05:22] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, better performace with my pata drive
[05:22] <matthewjames> and if that does not work bastard?
[05:22] <BastardLinux> matthew less /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[05:22] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, AMD atlon XP, 1gb ddr400
[05:23] <BastardLinux> matthewjames, if you are going to use linux there is one thing you must accept quickly....
[05:23] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, single channel or dual channel ddr?  sounds like single channel
[05:23] <cheater> what filesystem does ubuntu use by default? ext3 ?
[05:23] <asad> hi, can anyone help me get a dlink 650 wireless card working on my HP machine?
[05:23] <haasteem> _jason: permissions are still denied
[05:23] <BastardLinux> everyting takes way more than just one 'thing' =p
[05:23] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, dual channel
[05:23] <owner> sudo su will give you a root shell
[05:23] <matthewjames> k
[05:23] <twitch101> how do i compile a game in tar.gz format
[05:23] <matthewjames> brb, wish me luck
[05:23] <owner> without setting a pass
[05:23] <trollducky> Because it defeates the purpose of a real back-up (IMNever-too-beHO) which is to minimize downtime and make it 'idiot-proof'.
[05:23] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, that's interesting, it was on my dual channel machine that I saw the problem, only it is intel, not amd.  Might not be related.
[05:23] <BastardLinux> asad, sure that should be a snap
[05:23] <haasteem> _jason: do i need to do something with chmod?
[05:24] <psusi> cheater, yes... ext3 is the default, or reiserfs if you like
[05:24] <_jason> haasteem, where are you doing it? 'pwd'
[05:24] <asad> bastardlinux, can you PM me?
[05:24] <tygryss> anyone can help ? nvidia-glx didn't start, cant open /dev/nvidia0
[05:24] <tygryss> ?
[05:24] <cheater> thanks psusi
[05:24] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, I don't know if anyone already asked you this.  did you check the kernel command line and make sure there are no parameters (such as nodma)?
[05:24] <twitch101> how do i compile a a game
[05:24] <BastardLinux> asad, no, I use linux
[05:24] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell twitch101 about compile
[05:24] <haasteem> _jason: in my home dir
[05:24] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, i dont know
[05:24] <haasteem> but i see now that a deb has been written
[05:24] <asad> ??
[05:24] <eno__> so, not that I mean to be a bother... but if anyone could take the time to answer this question, I would greatly appreciate it: given my current situation, if I can make menuconfig (due to ncurses not being installed, which it is)  then should I just do make?
[05:25] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, but i have DMA in my pata drive an dvd-rom
[05:25] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, look in your grub config file (/boot/grub/menu.lst), look at the "kernel" line
[05:25] <_jason> haasteem, strange, did you run it twice or something?
[05:25] <asad> i mean private message me, i really have no idea where to go to get this wireless rolling
[05:25] <psusi> trollducky, recreating the partitions only takes 2 seconds... I guess it's a matter of preference though... I like to have control over that... I might not want to recreate them exactly the same way... especially if I'm restoring the backups on a different size disk
[05:25] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, ok
[05:25] <haasteem> _jason: but while processing it gives some permissions denied
[05:25] <trollducky> now, psusi, how about exorcising my daemons -- will /etc/init.f/[process name]  stop do the trick?  If so, what processes.
[05:25] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, it's possible to turn dma off for specific devices on the kernel command line.  I doubt it is happening, but it is easy to check, so check it.
[05:25] <BastardLinux> eno, you need libncurses5.0-dev or simular
[05:26] <eno__> oh cool
[05:26] <eno__> thaNKS
[05:26] <BastardLinux> eno that is what you are missing for make menuconfig
[05:26] <owner> dma wasnt enabled for my hard drive or dvd drives by default
[05:26] <owner> pretty strange
[05:26] <trollducky> psusi, maybe you missed the earlier part - he's a newbie -- repartitioning is a potential PoF for him
[05:26] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, /vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-k7 root=/dev/sda4 ro quiet splash
[05:26] <psusi> trollducky, what was that?  /etc/init.d contains start/stop scripts for daemons... you can run them to start, stop, or restart as you like
[05:26] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, that's all normal stuff.
[05:26] <eno__> >> Unable to find the Ncurses libraries.
[05:26] <eno__> >>
[05:26] <eno__> >> You must have Ncurses installed in order
[05:26] <eno__> >> to use 'make menuconfig'
[05:26] <_jason> haasteem, when you are installing the deb or just creating it with fakeroot?
[05:26] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, check dmesg and /var/log/messages, see if there are any diagnostics or errors printed when the sata module loads
[05:27] <BastardLinux> eno__, ??? apt-get install libncurses5.0-dev
[05:27] <haasteem> _jason: creating
[05:27] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, how i can do it?
[05:27] <trollducky> s_spiff, do you have a second harddrive available to mount in that machine -- if so, parted (gparted or qparted in gnome or kde) can do what you want
[05:27] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, sorry i'm newbie
[05:27] <eno__> BastardLinux: I will try that, thank you
[05:27] <BastardLinux> eno__, you are 'developing' you need '-devel' pkg's
[05:27] <M3t4ll1k0> ;)
[05:27] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, you can do:  dmesg > outfile , which puts the output of dmesg into a file which you can then edit
[05:27] <eno__> ha developing
[05:27] <haasteem> _jason: e.g. /home/matty/jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin: line 445: /usr/share/application-registry/java-web-start.applications: Permission denied
[05:27] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, /var/log/messages is just a file that you can edit.  It's the main system log file
[05:27] <asad> so, bastard linux, where do i need to go to get wireless working?
[05:27] <M3t4ll1k0> ok
[05:28] <BastardLinux> sethk, not in debian its syslog
[05:28] <psusi> trollducky, what were you asking about daemons exactly? I didn't quite get the question
[05:28] <BastardLinux> that is roothack
[05:28] <eno__> "I've got 4 words for ya!  Developers, developers, developers, developers!"
[05:28] <sethk> BastardLinux, I suspect he is running ubuntu  :)
[05:28] <trollducky> And they live on the LiveCD too, so if you need to restore them, just boot from that.  psusi's way has the advantage of compressing empty space automatically, but you'll need a pile of space still for the image then have to copy it to dvd
[05:28] <BastardLinux> asad, running a 2.6 kernel and ubuntu your adapter should be working ifconfig -a ?
[05:28] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, what i sould search in dmesg
[05:28] <trollducky> either method has its issues
[05:28] <M3t4ll1k0> ?
[05:28] <sethk> BastardLinux, those messages end up in /var/log/messages, not syslog
[05:29] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, sata, /dev/sda, things like thatt
[05:29] <psusi> trollducky, you can burn the tar directly to the dvd on the fly too
[05:29] <nemik> ndiswrappers don't get installed on the base install, right?
[05:29] <BastardLinux> really? odd
[05:29] <BastardLinux> nemik, haha no
[05:29] <haasteem> _jason: installation gave no errors
[05:29] <sethk> BastardLinux, syslog has cron messages, some network related messages, but almost everything in dmesg also ends up in /var/log/messages
[05:29] <asad> bastard linux, i am not sure what to do with all this information now...
[05:29] <sethk> BastardLinux, which is just a matter of how they configure logging
[05:29] <_jason> haasteem, try update-alternatives now and cross your fingers
[05:30] <BastardLinux> sethk, /nod
[05:30] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk,  in dmesg i get[4311421.887000]  atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known.
[05:30] <M3t4ll1k0> [4311421.968000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[05:30] <nemik> BastardLinux: so neither does libXpm.s0.4? it couldn't find it when i did the cardinfo command
[05:30] <BastardLinux> asad, start with ifconfig -a  do you see a wlan0?
[05:30] <eno__> ha it worked!  Thanks!  I even /feel/ like a developer
[05:30] <haasteem> _jason: it seems to have worked
[05:30] <sethk> BastardLinux, I'm not saying I like it that way.  :)
[05:30] <BastardLinux> eno__, has a balmer complex....
[05:30] <haasteem> _jason: let me try azureus now
[05:30] <_jason> haasteem, let me know if that resolved your azureus... yep
[05:30] <asad> bastardlinux, no i dont
[05:30] <sethk> eno__, a developer is just a user who isn't scared to compile.  :)
[05:30] <trollducky> psusi, I'm trying to kill the Dapper 2nd stage installer...  burn DVD on the fly of spanned file that large -- without buffer problems and making coaster?  Then he's better off to find a particular application, isn't he??
[05:30] <psusi> trollducky, in fact, one of the packages I've been working on lately allows you to mount a cdrw like a giant floppy, so you could just build the tar directly on that... should apply to dvds too... I just got a new dvd/rw drive and some dvd+rw media yesterday, so I'll be experimenting with that as well
[05:30] <BastardLinux> haha
[05:30] <nbound> if i wanted to unistall the ubuntu wine package in preference of the one from winehq, how would i do it?
[05:31] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, the same in /var/log/messages
[05:31] <robertbb> What's the best GTK Bit Torrent client?
[05:31] <trollducky> psusi, is it in beta yet?
[05:31] <BastardLinux> dpkg --purge wine
[05:31] <eno__> BastardLinux: I have a chair and I am not afraid to use it
[05:31] <trollducky> I'd be happy to help test it for you -- heh.
[05:31] <nbound> thx BastardLinux
[05:31] <haasteem> _jason: yesss :)
[05:31] <psusi> trollducky, sort of... it's up on review if you'd like to download and build it
[05:31] <M3t4ll1k0> robertbb, azureus GTK
[05:31] <_jason> haasteem, k cool
[05:31] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, that's a keyboard message, unfortunately not helpful for sata drives
[05:31] <haasteem> _jason: that took me about 3 hours!!
[05:31] <robertbb> M3t4ll1k0, Yeah, that's what I figured. Shame it's coded in a crappy closed language.
[05:31] <robertbb> :-S
[05:32] <haasteem> _jason: crap
[05:32] <trollducky> open source?
[05:32] <psusi> trollducky, I'm still trying to get it to be all plug and play automagic though... and I had to patch the kernel to fix a few bugs.. that needs merged into the normal kernel still
[05:32] <BastardLinux> I had an open source once. oouch
[05:32] <haasteem> _jason: thanks for your help
[05:32] <_jason> haasteem, np
[05:32] <benplaut> i'm making a wifi connection script... what's the difference between dhclient and dhclient3, and which should i use?
[05:32] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, and it in java ;(
[05:32] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0,  you are getting to the point where there is little left to do other than turn on verbose logging in the sata module, and other desparate things of that sort (such as hacking the module source and adding logging at the point where it decides whether or not to enable dma)
[05:32] <BastardLinux> 3? sheesh
[05:33] <BastardLinux> what abouy pump?
[05:33] <psusi> trollducky, but if you want to play with it, you can install the udftools package... I also have a spec for it: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PacketCD
[05:33] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, it might be interesting to boot a 386 kernel, see if the behavior changes
[05:33] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, uuhh what?
[05:33] <haasteem> _jason: i guess i can delete the dir where i had java originally, right? (/usr/java)
[05:33] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, soory i dont understand you
[05:33] <M3t4ll1k0> ;)
[05:33] <trollducky> psusi, about my daemonization -- I'm trying to kill the Dapper Flight 2 second stage installer from a VTY with kill -9 and it just keeps respawning, and all its brood of child processes too.  My goal is just to unlock apt so I can use it to finish the install from the command line.
[05:33] <GTroy> what's the command line to eject a dvd?
[05:34] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, there aren't many tricks left.  you may actually have to troubleshoot the problem.
[05:34] <sethk> trollducky, things usually respawn because of configuration in the inittab and related files
[05:34] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, how?
[05:34] <sethk> trollducky, unless there is one base process that keeps restarting all the others
[05:34] <psusi> trollducky, why not just let it complete? ;)
[05:35] <eno__> so if by chance my screwing with the kernel screws up somehow... how would I fix that?
[05:35] <psusi> and yea.. if it respawns it's probably directly in inittab
[05:35] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, rebuild the sata part of the kernel with more error logging.  turn on the kernel hacking switches in the kernel compile.  Things like that.
[05:35] <trollducky> psusi -- oh, it's packet writing (I've made, litterally, spindles of coasters) trying to packet write DVDs under M$ -- heh
[05:35] <eno__> I have a dualboot with fedora... could I just copy the kernel over or something?
[05:35] <sethk> eno__, don't delete the kernel you already have that works.  Add the new one, don't replace the old one
[05:35] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, sounds too complicate for me
[05:35] <sethk> eno__, then, if it doesn't work, you can always boot the old, working kernel
[05:35] <psusi> trollducky, really?  why is that?
[05:36] <eno__> sethk: smart move
[05:36] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, I have no idea of that
[05:36] <trollducky> long story...
[05:36] <sethk> eno__, make the older one the default, then select the new one at the grub menu
[05:36] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, I never compile my own kernel
[05:36] <psusi> trollducky, don't feel so bad... the cd laser on my old cd/dvd/rw crapped out the other day while I was playing with the packet writing on cdrw media ;)
[05:36] <trollducky> for a customer too -- using his software...
[05:36] <sethk> M3t4ll1k0, you might try loading and booting a 386 kernel, see if the behavior changes
[05:36] <psusi> trollducky, other than that though... it looks like it's working great once I fixed all the bugs
[05:37] <trollducky> psusi, the installer is hung
[05:37] <psusi> trollducky, once i get it all plug and playified, should be real nice
[05:37] <trollducky> You *replaced* a class 3 laser!!?
[05:37] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, i thik that im usin a 386 kernel
[05:37] <trollducky> oh, nm, lol
[05:37] <psusi> no, I didn't replace it silly ;)
[05:37] <psusi> I would if I could get the replacement though...
[05:38] <psusi> but a new, faster drive was only $40, so I figured it wasn't worth bothering with
[05:38] <M3t4ll1k0> sethk, you refer to that? > /vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-386
[05:38] <trollducky> uhhh, replacing would be easy, but calibration might be the bitch
[05:38] <zuverink> Could someone help me out with printer sharing between two ubuntu machine, it prints locally but not from the remote machine?
[05:38] <trollducky> Dual layer?  only $40 ??
[05:38] <psusi> trollducky, that's true... without specs from the manufacturer... and it seems like getting decent specs on pc hardware these days is a bitch
[05:39] <psusi> trollducky, yea...
[05:39] <trollducky> neat!  where do I buy a case?
[05:39] <psusi> trollducky, newegg.com
[05:39] <trollducky> Anyhow, got any ideas on how to take control of this install?
[05:39] <DavidW2> ok postfix sends mail, does it receive mail too? (I can send mail but not receive it)
[05:40] <brasko> DavidW2: I don't know, but I use fetchmail to get my mail.
[05:40] <psusi> trollducky, I actually got a slightly more expensive one because tom's hardware reviewed it and it looked good... low seek times and such... and paid for rush overnight delivery and a pack of dvd+rw media, so the total bill came to $100
[05:40] <trollducky> psusi, are they stripped, or no warranty or shippind not included or something?
[05:40] <psusi> trollducky, nope... normal consumer items
[05:40] <brasko> DavidW2: It's easy to configure also, and works with IMAP.
[05:40] <trollducky> I pay about $60 CDN a unit to my wholesalers FOB Calgary incl. tax.
[05:41] <nbound> when opening a program with wine it says unload the debugger and try again?
[05:41] <psusi> trollducky, now if only I could find some 16x cdrw media... the drive says it can do that, but the fastest media I've seen anywhere is only 12x
[05:41] <trollducky> <-- consulting monkey
[05:41] <DavidW2> brasko: It should be sent straight to this host, so using fetchmail doesn't make sense (it's for remote hosts right?)
[05:41] <asad112> bastardlinux, are you still there?
[05:41] <brasko> DavidW2: I see. Fetchmail retreives mail when you have an IMAP account like I do.
[05:41] <nbound> psusi, you can get high speed cdrw in most larger towns, small cities
[05:42] <BastardLinux> fetchmail is a delivery agent, it uses localhost as much as remote host
[05:42] <psusi> nbound, not over 12x
[05:42] <psusi> and even 12x is hard to find
[05:42] <trollducky> psusi, yeah that is scarce -- after 8/10/12 you're pretty much talking 2/4/6x DVD+RW with most mfgs
[05:42] <nbound> psusi, i swear ive seen 24x
[05:42] <psusi> most consumer stores around town like best buy only carry 4x or if you are lucky, 8x
[05:42] <nbound> psusi, and im in australia ;)
[05:42] <trollducky> if you want to stay compataible that is, other wise you can go -RW or RAM
[05:42] <DavidW2> brasko: oh, yeah, i can get as far as installing courier-imap or whatever. but that's it
[05:42] <brasko> DavidW2: If mailing is being sent to you it probably won't do the trick. I'm pretty sure fetchmail get's mail from somewhere else (IMAP,POP)...
[05:43] <LinuxMonk> trollducky wrong most manufactures now go up to 16X wich is standard
[05:43] <nbound> when opening a program with wine it says unload the debugger and try again? anyone?
[05:43] <LinuxMonk> oh for RW ah sorry
[05:43] <psusi> trollducky, I got a 8x dvd+rw... burns DL DVD-R at like 16x I think it was
[05:43] <LinuxMonk> 8X is the highest ive seen
[05:43] <trollducky> I don't see it retail here -- I burn to 24/32x -Rs
[05:43] <nbound> psusi, no drive burns DL at 16x yet =P
[05:43] <brasko> nbound: The program probably doesn't work with wine. wine has many bugs.
[05:43] <psusi> LinuxMonk, yea... the drives claim to do 16x, but you can't find any media at 16x... only 12x
[05:44] <nbound> brasko, its GTA3 from all accounts it should
[05:44] <LinuxMonk> i got 16X media next to me
[05:44] <asad112> anyone else know how to get a dlink wireless 650 card to work on ubuntu?
[05:44] <trollducky> LinuxMonk, nice
[05:44] <sethk> nbound, I assume you aren't using a debugger?
[05:44] <psusi> LinuxMonk, 16x CD-RW media?
[05:44] <trollducky> Anyhow, I'm still DAEMONIZED
[05:44] <nbound> sethk, no im not =P
[05:44] <LinuxMonk> got about 200 DVD-R's sitting next to me
[05:44] <sethk> nbound, it is mistaking the emulator for a debugger
[05:45] <sethk> nbound, because, internally, they do the same thing
[05:45] <trollducky> How do I regain controll of this system -- I had a hell of a time just getting th kernel on and don't want to start again
[05:45] <nbound> sethk, damn....
[05:45] <sethk> nbound, they run the program in a simulated environment rather than the real environment
[05:45] <LinuxMonk> anyways im getting fustrated as ubuntu WONT install on my PC
[05:45] <sethk> nbound, with the source you could probably tell it to shut up and ignore it.
[05:45] <nbound> sethk, i doubt ill be getting GTA3 source anytime soon =P
[05:46] <BastardLinux> trollducky, you need to find the pid of the app, then kill it. like with kill -9 <pid>
[05:46] <BastardLinux> trollducky, or if it has an init script, /etc/init.d/<script name> stop
[05:46] <trollducky> (+ I have 4 devs with about 40 pt'ns which &#$ing ubuntu partioner will each try to mount as /media/[whatever]  unless I manually take out the mount point for each one)
[05:46] <tygryss> any idea about nvidia-glx fail.  can't open /dev/nvidia0
[05:47] <BastardLinux> trollducky, then edit /etc/fstab
[05:47] <trollducky> BastardLinux, I tried that, you haven't been keeping up with the convs/ have you -- heh.
[05:47] <BastardLinux> haha
[05:47] <psusi> ohh, my bad... it only does DL at 8x
[05:47] <trollducky> BastardLinux, just scroll back kthnxpls
[05:47] <BastardLinux> then there is a parent process
[05:47] <trollducky> duhhh
[05:47] <BastardLinux> so find it
[05:47] <LinuxMonk> I need help, before you respond, yes i have checked the media and its fine! When I try to install ubuntu it stops at loading installation components and tells me that it cant load a certain file (E2FSprogs-udeb\)
[05:47] <BastardLinux> use top
[05:47] <trollducky> base-config is ONE OF THEM and it's
[05:47] <BastardLinux> use ps auxww
[05:48] <BastardLinux> oh, haha you are still installing. I see
[05:48] <BastardLinux> then you need to reboot IMHO
[05:48] <BastardLinux> and start over
[05:48] <trollducky> BastardLinux, I told you politely twice, now STFU please (until you know what I'm doing) ... uh YES!
[05:48] <psusi> trollducky, why don't you just ignore it and do what you need to do, then reboot?
[05:48] <BastardLinux> haha
[05:48] <BastardLinux> fine fine
[05:48] <BastardLinux> you know
[05:48] <LinuxMonk> wow the support chan is dead tonnight
[05:48] <LinuxMonk> lol
[05:48] <trollducky> psusi, because the installer always hangs and the very beginning of 'installing packages'
[05:49] <purpleheart_USMC> QUESTION: How do I configure my network using terminal?  I have a minimal install and want to get GNOME and need to get my wireless internal NIC (ath0) working
[05:49] <BastardLinux> trollducky, sounds like maybe a hardware issue?
[05:49] <trollducky> All I can do is login on a VTY and try to kill stuff
[05:49] <eno__> it is compiling!
[05:49] <eno__> oh man
[05:49] <purplefeltangel> my internet connection works in Windows but not Ubuntu! can someone tell me what might be wrong?
[05:49] <LinuxMonk> help, before you respond, yes i have checked the media and its fine! When I try to install ubuntu it stops at loading installation components and tells me that it cant load a certain file (E2FSprogs-udeb\)
[05:49] <BastardLinux> purpleheart_USMC, ifconfig ath0 up; iwconfig ath0 essid foo enc foo
[05:50] <trollducky> BastardLinux, guess again -- my Debian Etch install can boot fine using all the same devs
[05:50] <purpleheart_USMC> BastardLinux: what is the enc part?
[05:50] <psusi> trollducky, so ignore it... install it yourself on the other tty, then reboot
[05:50] <trollducky> (you are a persistent guesser aren't you)
[05:50] <BastardLinux> encryption
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> purpleheart_USMC, whether it's on or off, the key .... the WEP key if that applies.
[05:50] <LinuxMonk> help, before you respond, yes i have checked the media and its fine! When I try to install ubuntu it stops at loading installation components and tells me that it cant load a certain file (E2FSprogs-udeb)
[05:50] <purpleheart_USMC> ty
[05:51] <psusi> trollducky, or better yet, try and figure out why it's hanging ;)
[05:51] <LinuxMonk> c'mon anyone
[05:51] <psusi> LinuxMonk, how did you check the media?
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> LinuxMonk, Is that it can't load it the only information it gives you?
[05:51] <trollducky> psusi, because it LOCKS apt-get   (now someone either tell me how to remove the lockfile without making a yellow dog's breakfast or kill the damn installe shell) please, please, please ... before I lose my mind
[05:51] <eno__> what are you supposed to do while you wait for it to compile?  the tutorial says make tea, but then I would not be able to sleep tonight...
[05:52] <LinuxMonk> psusi its not the media, i got 30 pressed cd's and a few burnt ones giving me the same error
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> Are there logs created for errors during install?  And could you then view them in a live session to figure out what's going on?  (This is for LinuxMonk)
[05:52] <tonyyarusso> eno__, Decaf.
[05:52] <BastardLinux> trollducky, do you get your network?
[05:52] <zane> hi, I wam wanting to install ubuntu onto my new mac laptop. What is the best repartitioning tool I should download. The one that ubuntu comes with isn't doing what I want it to.
[05:52] <psusi> trollducky, reboot into live mode instead of install mode ;)
[05:52] <psusi> trollducky, or edit /etc/inittab
[05:52] <BastardLinux> trollducky, do you get to the point where you have cfdisk et.al?
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> zane, What do you want it to do?
[05:53] <LinuxMonk> tonyyarusso it doesnt get that far and yeah i cant load a live cd eighter
[05:53] <BastardLinux> ubuntu does ppc?
[05:53] <psusi> LinuxMonk, then it could be the drive... switch to another tty and md5sum it
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> zane, (The one in the installer served all of my purposes.)
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> BastardLinux, Yes.
[05:53] <BastardLinux> cool!!!
[05:53] <zane> I want install ubuntu on my laptop but also keep the mac os x
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> LinuxMonk, Same problem when starting live?
[05:54] <LinuxMonk> the cd is good, just wondering if its the DVD+RW drive causeing the issues
[05:54] <LinuxMonk> its a damn dell pc
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> zane, How does the one Ubuntu comes with not good enough for that?
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> *is
[05:54] <LinuxMonk> my other pc died on me a few days ago
[05:54] <psusi> LinuxMonk, md5sum will tell you that
[05:54] <BastardLinux> hrm. does ubuntu have a netinst-cd ?
[05:54] <BastardLinux> LinuxMonk, that may solve your problem?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> or do and nfs install?
[05:55] <owner> you could do a server install
[05:55] <psusi> BastardLinux, "netinst"?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> or mount it on your nfs-server
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> LinuxMonk, do you know anybody with an external CD/DVD drive you could use?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> yeah, debian netinst cd's?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> net installers?
[05:55] <psusi> BastardLinux, which does what?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> minimal cd?
[05:55] <BastardLinux> hrm.?
[05:55] <psusi> ubuntu is only one cd to begin with..
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> !tell BastardLinux about networkinstall
[05:55] <psusi> no need for a seperate minimal cd
[05:55] <purplefeltangel> my internet connection works in Windows but not Ubuntu! can someone tell me what might be wrong?
[05:56] <zane> well, it may be good enough. here is what I want to do. I want to repartition the 79.1 GB HDD which is in a HTS1+ (or something with a H in it I forget but it won't let me. or maybe I just don't see where to do it
[05:56] <LinuxMonk> tonyyarusso no but i can swap in another drive :)
[05:56] <BastardLinux> tonyyarusso, I was thinking of it a solution to LinuxMonk's problem =P I KNOW WHAT IT IS
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, What kind of connection?
[05:56] <LinuxMonk> psusi you remember the md5sum command?
[05:56] <BastardLinux> zane, HFS?
[05:57] <zane> yep thats it
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> LinuxMonk, Try that then, at least that will tell you if the drive is the issue.
[05:57] <psusi> LinuxMonk, yes
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> BastardLinux, Oh?
[05:57] <LinuxMonk> psusi can ya give it to me..lol
[05:57] <BastardLinux> that is your osx
[05:57] <Eleaf> alright, it's time I got this right
[05:57] <zane> yep I know that
[05:57] <psusi> LinuxMonk, if your cdrom is /dev/hdd, then just md5sum /dev/hdd
[05:57] <BastardLinux> if it _is_ the dvdrw then maybe a netinst would work? yes?
[05:57] <Eleaf> How do I truly select the gtk theme I want to use for gtk apps while using kde etc.??
[05:58] <eno__> so if ompiling my kernel doesn't work... does that means I did something wrong in menuconfig?
[05:58] <HoHoHo> Hi, may I know if it is possible to make a share folder whereby I can share the information between my Window and Ubuntu in a folder.
[05:58] <eno__> just run the samba config
[05:58] <zane> bastardlinux, so how do I cut a bit off that (say 10GB)  for ubuntu
[05:58] <eno__> it's in your system menu somewhere
[05:58] <BastardLinux> eno__, most likely, but not certainly
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, Samba will do that.
[05:58] <primoturbo> Does anyone know how to fix pixelated video? I have all the codecs and the correct ati drivers. However only under vesa does the pixelation turn to normal smooth
[05:58] <kremonte> if i, say, ln -s /usr/bin/apt-get /usr/bin/moo , is it possible to moo install xx?
[05:58] <HoHoHo> tonyyarusso, Samba?
[05:58] <zuverink> anyone have any idea how to share a printer?
[05:58] <asad112> so is anyone able to point to where i need to go to get this dlink card working?
[05:59] <purplefeltangel> tonyarusso: um it's a cable line . . . .
[05:59] <BastardLinux> zane, you have to boot to osx and reconfigure your hdd from there, (falls outside the scope of this irc discussion) read the plentiful how-tos
[05:59] <sethk> asad112, the dumpster?
[05:59] <eno__> I forget what processor is in this machine
[05:59] <eno__> :P
[05:59] <zane> right, thanks a lot guys
[05:59] <liable> zuverink: yeah, i think thats right.
[05:59] <BastardLinux> kremonte, yes. but why?\
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, It's a program/protocol for going back and forth with Windows networking and Linux.
[05:59] <eno__> if it doesn't work as AMD I am just going to turn it off and check by eye
[05:59] <asad112> don't think so sethk
[05:59] <psusi> kremonte, yes
[05:59] <LinuxMonk> psusi running it now
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, I don't think it's installed by default, but if not sudo apt-get install samba will get it for you.
[06:00] <LinuxMonk> so well know if its the cd or not. but i swear its not the media
[06:00] <HoHoHo> Thanks tonyyarusso
[06:00] <zuverink> liable:what was right?
[06:00] <sethk> asad112, what's the problem with it?
[06:00] <Eleaf> How do I truly select the gtk theme I want to use for gtk apps while using kde etc.??
[06:00] <BastardLinux> smbclient maybe?
[06:00] <psusi> kremonte, err, usually... unless apt-get is actually one of those multi purpose binaries that uses it's invocation name to decide what you want it to do
[06:00] <kremonte> BastardLinux: because i can :)
[06:00] <liable> zuverink: sorry, wrong channel
[06:00] <asad112> sethk, i have no idea how to get it to work
[06:00] <kremonte> i just feel like playing with my system, hehehe
[06:00] <eno__> HoHoHo: If you go to system>admin>Networking it will install smaba for you I think
[06:00] <BastardLinux> psusi, haha I thought that was the premise of apt from the get ;)
[06:00] <sethk> asad112, most cards just work.  what happens with it?
[06:00] <kremonte> "moo moo" for an ascii cow! :D
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, Then, in an ideal world, the GUI app will set things up.  (System > Administration > Shared Folders)  Otherwise, you'll need to learn how to edit the smb.conf.
[06:01] <BastardLinux> kremonte, :)
[06:01] <BastardLinux> ideal? /me faints
[06:01] <asad112> sethk, i plug it in, and only one light comes on... :-/
[06:01] <BastardLinux> CLI for chaos
[06:01] <asad112> i am using a wired connection now
[06:01] <nosralboo> hey can someone help me, I am having a huge problem with ubuntu, I installed kubuntu desktop, it "works fine" but I don't really like it, anyway while I was running it I had 50 megs of physical memory left (out of 512!) and I wasn't running any programs, does anyone know how this could happen?
[06:02] <sethk> asad112, the lights don't tell us much.  what messages do you get from the O/S?  You said you plug it in; is it a pcmcia card?
[06:02] <BastardLinux> nosralboo, its the 'k'
[06:02] <psusi> nosralboo, how did you measure this?
[06:02] <HoHoHo> Thanks, tonyyarusso I think I had it install but where is the folder that is shared that I can see on Ubuntu and Window?
[06:02] <liable> nosralboo: where did you get that figure from?
[06:02] <nosralboo> system monitor
[06:02] <owner> kde is quite resource hungry
[06:02] <LinuxMonk> ok now this is odd
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, i plugged it in, and nothing happened
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, You can use any folder you please.
[06:02] <psusi> nosralboo, pay attention to the part that says how much is used for cache
[06:02] <sorush20> !Azureus
[06:02] <ubotu> [azureus]  a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, i think it is a pcmcia card
[06:02] <asad112> sethk, it is a dlink dwl 650
[06:03] <eno__> oh farg
[06:03] <LinuxMonk> psusi whats the correct MD5 hash?
[06:03] <HoHoHo> So I will be able to see it at where on the Window? tonyyarusso ?
[06:03] <nosralboo> "user memory: 111 mb  of 504 mb"
[06:03] <sethk> asad112, run dmesg, then plug it in, and run dmesg again.  The stuff printed at the end (probably four or five lines) of dmesg will be about the card
[06:03] <nbound> do anyone elses downloads drop out when getting the wine package from winehq through synaptic????
[06:03] <sethk> asad112, what kind it is, and how it is configured by the o/s
[06:03] <s_spiff{AWAY}> BastardLinux, what to use to backup ubuntu/create live cd of my present system on a DVD/CD?
[06:03] <BastardLinux> that card used the prism2 no?
[06:03] <lapducky_> What was the last thing you guys saw me type?
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> HoHoHo, On Windows, once it's set up it will be in Network Neighborhood / My Network Places, and in Ubuntu from Places > .
[06:03] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: my connection is a cable line
[06:03] <primoturbo> Hey guys
[06:04] <primoturbo> does anyone know how to fix this
[06:04] <primoturbo> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=94987&highlight=video+pixelation
[06:04] <BastardLinux> s_spiff{AWAY}, again. mondo/mindi
[06:04] <liable> asad112: http://sourceforge.net/projects/acx100/
[06:04] <primoturbo> I posted this a long time ago but I have the exact same issue!
[06:04] <psusi> LinuxMonk, check next to the download links
[06:04] <HoHoHo> Thanks a lot tonyyarusso , it is solve :D
[06:04] <lapducky_> It seems as if I dropped without seeing it
[06:04] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  sorryto ask the same q.
[06:04] <BastardLinux> sorry to remember you asked it =p
[06:04] <s_spiff{AWAY}> :P
[06:04] <asad112> sethk, these are the last four lines:
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.294000]  Bluetooth: L2CAP socket layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM ver 1.5
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM socket layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294741.313000]  Bluetooth: RFCOMM TTY layer initialized
[06:04] <asad112> [4294746.034000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[06:04] <asad112> [4299748.319000]  cs: memory probe 0xa0000000-0xa0ffffff: clean.
[06:05] <BastardLinux> that is not a wifi card!!!
[06:05] <sethk> asad112, I should have told you, use a paste bot, don't paste to the channel
[06:05] <asad112> my bad
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Check out ifconfig and your devices listing to see if it's even recognizing the interface.  If it's not, you'll have to ask for specific hardware support, knowing what card you have.
[06:05] <BastardLinux> hehe
[06:05] <sorush20> why isn't Azureus in repositories?
[06:05] <BastardLinux> just paste the last 5 or so
[06:05] <sethk> and as BastardLinux said, that's a bluetooth card
[06:05] <derek_> Hi
[06:05] <derek_> I downloaded the ISO. How should I burn it in winxp?
[06:06] <derek_> data CD ? or bootable? or how?
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, it's initializing but not finding anyplace to hook into the network stack
[06:06] <BastardLinux> winxp? whats that?
[06:06] <psusi> sorush20, it is... did you not enable the universe repository?
[06:06] <derek_> (using nero)
[06:06] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: i don't know how to do any of that :S but on startup when it says "configuring network interface" it fails . . . .
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, that's actually quite good, because the card is detected and configured.
[06:06] <asad112> good! :)
[06:06] <sethk> asad112, now you just have to find someone who has a clue about bluetooth
[06:06] <psusi> derek_, bur it as an image
[06:06] <s_spiff{AWAY}> BastardLinux, does it have a gui? or based on commands
[06:06] <nosralboo> oh and I uninstalled kubuntu
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> derek_, Most burning apps have a "burn from iso" option.
[06:06] <Hawk|-> hi
[06:06] <BastardLinux> s_spiff{AWAY}, CLI
[06:06] <derek_> ok
[06:06] <nosralboo> I uninstalled kubuntu-desktop, but I still get the kubuntu login screen
[06:06] <BastardLinux> gui bad
[06:06] <BastardLinux> bad gui bad
[06:07] <psusi> you don't use bluetooth for networking really, it only has a range of like 6 feet
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Okay, I assume you're in Windows right now then?  (Since you're online.)
[06:07] <asad112> sethk, so what's next down the road then?
[06:07] <nosralboo> and I can't change it cuz it won't let me run "login screen setup" it prompts for pass then just exits
[06:07] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: yeah
[06:07] <BastardLinux> psusi, huh? I sure do /me has a treo650
[06:07] <Hawk|-> Question: How do i adress the video-out port of a tv-card ? Like nexus-s ?
[06:07] <Hawk|-> +d
[06:07] <BastardLinux> networks quite lovely
[06:07] <psusi> BastardLinux, what's that?
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Do you have another computer that you could use so that you could be connected and running Ubuntu at the same time?
[06:07] <LinuxMonk> psusi there's actually 2 bluetooth technologies
[06:07] <sethk> asad112, I've not configured a bluetooth card, unfortunately.   Look around for a howto on it.  As I said, the hard part is done, so hopefully a howto will be useful
[06:07] <BastardLinux> psusi, but yes, I was being sarcastic about the scanning
[06:08] <BastardLinux> psusi, cell phone treo 650
[06:08] <owner> nosral you have to uninstall the kubuntu splash packages
[06:08] <owner> and then there is a command
[06:08] <owner> i forget to reconfigure the splash
[06:08] <psusi> BastardLinux, ahhh
[06:08] <LinuxMonk> there is a 100FT bluetooth :)
[06:08] <asad112> sethk, can you point me as to what to search for?
[06:08] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: yes but my mom is using it ;P
[06:08] <liable> asad112: http://sourceforge.net/projects/acx100/
[06:08] <psusi> LinuxMonk, says who?
[06:08] <BastardLinux> sethk, ubuntu just set mine up for me :)
[06:08] <asad112> liable, i went to that, what is it i need to download?
[06:09] <BastardLinux> asad112, lsmod|grep prism
[06:09] <LinuxMonk> actaully i think its 100m wich is 330FT
[06:09] <GregAsche> any good programs to join video files?
[06:09] <liable> asad112: the driver.. then you need to compile it.
[06:09] <BastardLinux> doesn't the 650 use the prism2 driver? you can certainly use the hostap driver as well
[06:09] <lapducky_> hmmm... what about init 2 ?
[06:09] <sorush20> here is my sources why don't I have Azureu
[06:10] <sorush20> Azureu
[06:10] <BastardLinux> init 2 is the default on all debian based systems
[06:10] <sethk> BastardLinux, that sounds familiar about prism2, but I wouldn't swear to it
[06:10] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7161
[06:10] <BastardLinux> sethk, all the early ones did, but they had several ver of that one
[06:10] <asad112> liable, that download link doesnt work
[06:10] <sorush20> /identify
[06:10] <BastardLinux> and the later ver were different, they had those goofy 22m ones for a while that were not supported under linux
[06:11] <Hawk|-> #mplayer
[06:11] <psusi> sorush20, did you reload?
[06:11] <LinuxMonk> psusi http://cgi.ebay.ca/Bluetooth-USB-Adapter-Class1up-to-100M-328ft-Range-us_W0QQitemZ5851530044QQcategoryZ44999QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[06:11] <BastardLinux> lapducky_, if that is the case, then logic would reason that one of the init scripts would free your trouble
[06:11] <owner> the run levels are different in ubuntu than standard debian
[06:11] <sorush20> psusi: yes..
[06:11] <owner> i think
[06:11] <sorush20> I'm using kde adept
[06:11] <LinuxMonk> Class 1 bluetooth adapter, 100 meters = 300+feet
[06:11] <BastardLinux> owner, 2 is still default
[06:12] <BastardLinux> 5 is gui in roothac
[06:12] <psusi> owner, nope, they aren't
[06:12] <BastardLinux> maybe the inittab is diff
[06:12] <owner> because in debian you can init 3 to kill gdm/kdm
[06:12] <owner> and init 5 to restart it
[06:12] <BastardLinux> but basically a deb and ian stock
[06:12] <BastardLinux> yeah. NO
[06:12] <asad112> is there any cards you can get for linux, that you plug in, and they work immediately
[06:12] <asad112> ??
[06:13] <sethk> owner, the display manager level in ubuntu is 2
[06:13] <psusi> just what the world needs... ANOTHER protocol operating in the ISM band
[06:13] <LinuxMonk> lmao
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Okay.  What I would suggest is doing just that sometime another day when she isn't, because it will be a lot easier for you to figure out what the issue is while booted into Ubuntu and talking to people here.  (It could be done otherwise, but would cause you undue frustration.)
[06:13] <johndarkhorse> asad112: what type of cards?
[06:14] <LinuxMonk> suprized psusi
[06:14] <BastardLinux> you can config your runlevels to do wtf you want, but by default. debian is N 2 for gui or not
[06:14] <asad112> johndarkhorse, wireless cards
[06:14] <paul_> is this a good place to get help for ubuntu?
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell asad112 about wireless
[06:14] <lapducky_> psusi, don't you want a 2.4 Ghz embedded Linux remote-control toaster oven to go with your collection of intelligent garage door openers?
[06:14] <johndarkhorse> asad112: read the page ubotu is showing you and make your decisions
[06:14] <lapducky_> lol
[06:15] <paul_> what is the default password for root if there is one?
[06:15] <lapducky_> paul_, that's the nasty rumour
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> i hear the wireless cards based on that 2500 chipset are supposed to be well supported.
[06:15] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: *sigh* ok but i swear i'm going to go on a shooting spree if i can't get my email for one more day *rolls eyes*
[06:15] <psusi> one of these days I'm going to remove the magnatron from a microwave and laugh as all the wifi junk within 2 miles stops working
[06:15] <lapducky_> paul_, it's disabled
[06:15] <paul_> ohh
[06:15] <sethk> BastardLinux, personally I think it is a big mistake to have only single user and then windowing, without a multi-user non-windowing layer.  And most folks really don't know how to muck around with levels
[06:15] <psusi> there's way too much junk using the ISM band these days
[06:15] <lapducky_> do :$ sudo +s passwd root
[06:15] <paul_> im trying to isntall some linuxwacom drivers
[06:15] <BastardLinux> asad112, paste the output of this command please :: cardctl ident
[06:15] <lapducky_> If you want to set one
[06:16] <psusi> paul_, there is no password for root by default
[06:16] <BastardLinux> asad112, if you do that, I will help you config your card (if it is possible)
[06:16] <LinuxMonk> psusi ok the md5's dont match however their for the ISO, wouldnt they change for the burnt product
[06:16] <lapducky_> !ubotu tell paul_ about rootsudo
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Sorry...  Try to breathe for a day, really, it's not that long, right?
[06:16] <LinuxMonk> or even the pressed product
[06:16] <psusi> LinuxMonk, nope, same iso is on the pressed cds
[06:16] <asad112> bastardlinux, where do i a paste it to?
[06:17] <psusi> LinuxMonk, sounds like the drive is broken.. you might try disabling dma mode on it with hdparm
[06:17] <BastardLinux> asad112, here, it should be only 5 lines
[06:17] <paul_> it says sudo +s command not found
[06:17] <BastardLinux> or less
[06:17] <asad112> Socket 0:
[06:17] <asad112>   product info: "D-Link", "DWL-650 Wireless PC Card RevP", "ISL37101P-10", "A3"
[06:17] <asad112>   manfid: 0x000b, 0x7110
[06:17] <asad112>   function: 6 (network)
[06:17] <BastardLinux> cool
[06:17] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: don't ask folks to paste in here please
[06:17] <dylan_> what package do i install for a thesaurus in openoffice?
[06:17] <borisattva> which services do i need to configure in firestarter so that it lets full use of LAN without opening up what is not needed?
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> What's the best way to explain to people that a Live CD is not going to break their computer or destroy data?
[06:17] <asad112> i got kicked...
[06:17] <johndarkhorse> asad112: do not paste in here.
[06:17] <asad112> too late
[06:17] <borisattva> should i even bother running a firestarter with a router?
[06:18] <johndarkhorse> asad112: no matter what anyone else tells you
[06:18] <LinuxMonk> ok then tell me why all my cd's telling me same thing, i got 20+cd's and tried in 3 different drive they all give me same md5sum but different than iso md5sum
[06:18] <dylan_> borisattva, not on ubuntu
[06:18] <psusi> tonyyarusso, "the live cd is not going to break your computer or destroy your data" usually works well
[06:18] <strav> he guys, I'm wishing to periodically test some command line php app I wrote tough it seems crontab won't take effect... I used: crontab -e  and entered some string like: 20 19 * * * /home/phpprog
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> How intimidated should I be by having to figure out port forwarding to use vnc with a router that has non-useful documentation and isn't on portforward.com?
[06:18] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: yeah, sure, if the FATE OF THE WORLD WAS NOT HANGING IN THE BALANCE OF MY EMAIL! *drama!*
[06:18] <sethk> psusi, hey, give me 10 minutes and a live cd...  :)
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> psusi, They don't believe me.
[06:19] <asad112> bastardlinux, did you at least get that?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> psusi, They don't understand why not.
[06:19] <psusi> LinuxMonk, are you looking at the correct iso md5sum?
[06:19] <borisattva> thanks dylan
[06:19] <BastardLinux> http://linuxcompatible.org/D-Link_DWL-650_Wireless_PC_Card_RevP_c11299.html
[06:19] <BastardLinux> asad112, did you see links like that?
[06:19] <psusi> strav, is /home/phpprog executable?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Oh, well in that case I'll contact the PM and see if they can pull some strings for you!
[06:20] <strav> (the time I specified used to be several minutes in advance since cron might take some time to update it's spool tough... It won't load my prog)
[06:20] <asad112> bastardlinux, what do you mean?
[06:20] <strav> psusi: of course
[06:20] <ki4ikl> i just loaded a driver for my logitech quick cam and my computer wont reconize my cam as video0, how do i make it do that
[06:20] <LinuxMonk> 126751a2dc5528c2f9044d9e4ee36d61 ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[06:20] <psusi> tonyyarusso, "because it doesn't touch your hard drive, it runs entirely off the cd"
[06:20] <e_machinist> Whenever I try to eject or unmount my /dev/hdd (dvdrom) using kde it keeps telling me that eject or unmount failed. Whats up with this?
[06:20] <ki4ikl> can someone tell me how stable dapper is
[06:20] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: which PM? canada or britain? ;P
[06:21] <ki4ikl> how stable is dapper at the moment
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> ki4ikl: it is not.
[06:21] <ki4ikl> is ti usable though
[06:21] <strav> (I also tried to run usual things like xterm and such)
[06:21] <johndarkhorse> ki4ikl: if you dont use it as your primary machine, you can use it
[06:21] <psusi> not too many problems
[06:21] <ki4ikl> okay, anyone have a suggestion for my webcam problem
[06:22] <LinuxMonk> yeah buy a new one
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Canada here.
[06:22] <LinuxMonk> lol
[06:22] <paul_> copy/move the wacom.c from there to drivers/usb/input in your
[06:22] <paul_> linux-source-driectory  can someone explain to me how to do that?
[06:22] <paul_> i found the file and copied it but where is the linux source directory?
[06:22] <ki4ikl> Does anyhone know much much abotu the logitech quickcam express
[06:23] <BastardLinux> asad112, looks like a few ppl have made it work with the hostap drivers, but those are pretty tricky for newb's
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> ki4ikl,  last i looked they had no support. that may of changed by now.
[06:23] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: OT question before i go to bed -- who're ya votin' for, if i may ask?
[06:23] <nosralboo> hey does anyone know why I can't run Login Screen Setup?  I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:23] <nosralboo> I tried rebooting but nothing
[06:23] <ki4ikl> yeah they have support, i found a driver i just need to make it show as video0
[06:23] <sorush20> guys anyone take a look at my sources I don't know why I don't have azurus
[06:23] <sorush20> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7161
[06:24] <psusi> sorush20, did you reload?
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, I'm not, actually.  I'm in Canada going to school, but a US citizen.
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> sorush20,  read that Azurus wiki page yet?
[06:24] <purplefeltangel> tonyyarusso: really! that's interesting. ok, who *would* you vote for? ;P
[06:24] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[06:24] <ubotu> offtopic is, like, totally, Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> purplefeltangel, Linda Slavin, NDP (Peterborough riding).
[06:24] <BastardLinux> asad112, do this and tell me what it says:: dmesg|grep prism  <-- does that find anything?
[06:24] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: purplefeltangel: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:25] <strav> thing is: I see 4 crontab modes in /etc... hourly daily, week and monthly should this implies that cron is updating it's spool at a minumum of every hour?
[06:25] <nosralboo> hey does anyone know why I can't run Login Screen Setup?  I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:25] <purplefeltangel> johndarkhorse: yeahyeahyeah i'm leaving anyway
[06:25] <tonyyarusso> Good call johndarkhorse.  Sorry.
[06:25] <purplefeltangel> bye ;P
[06:25] <asad112> bastard linux, it didn't say anything
[06:25] <psusi> strav, no, /etc/ctrontab is root's crontab...  ignore that
[06:25] <asad112> just gave me a other line
[06:25] <nosralboo> hey does anyone know why I can't run Login Screen Setup?  I press system>administration>login screen setup, it prompts for pass, I enter, then nothin happens
[06:26] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, I found that happened if I did not have permission through sudo to do so.
[06:26] <dylan_> what package do i install for a thesaurus in openoffice?
[06:26] <nosralboo> oh
[06:26] <strav> psusi: I also tried to run my cmd from root's cron using sudo crontab -e... didn't worked.
[06:26] <nosralboo> how do I run it through terminal?
[06:27] <marquisdesade> nosralboo: gdmsetup
[06:27] <johndarkhorse> strav: you dont use sudo from a root terminal.
[06:28] <nosralboo> it says "cannot acces gdm config file"
[06:28] <marquisdesade> nosralboo: that's becaues you're not root
[06:28] <strav> johndarkhorse: I think you missundersand... I was in a standard terminal... xtrem was only a test app I wanted to load using cron.,
[06:28] <nosralboo> oh alrihgt
[06:28] <nosralboo> thanks
[06:28] <BastardLinux> asad112, if you are comfortable with compiling you can try apt-get install hostap-source hostap-utils hostapd
[06:29] <BastardLinux> asad112, other than that, you might not have much luck :(
[06:29] <bshumate> nosralboo: gksudo gdmsetup
[06:29] <bshumate> nosralboo: you may see an error message offering up a clue as to what the problem is...
[06:29] <strav> but it fact... how often that cron is suposed to check it's tables and all?
[06:29] <BastardLinux> asad112, I seem to recall the later versions of that card don't use the prism2 drivers so well, but hostap really, really rocks
[06:29] <marquisdesade> does anyone know how to manage startup services...
[06:30] <marquisdesade> without using the GUI... it's got only a few entries
[06:30] <sorush20> psusi: yes I did read tha azurus wiki and it just says that i sould downlaod form a non source right?
[06:30] <BastardLinux> marquisdesade, update-rc.d ?
[06:30] <marquisdesade> no, i want an interface
[06:30] <BastardLinux> bah
[06:30] <marquisdesade> something like redhat's ntsysv
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> marquisdesade,  thers some 'sysv' gui tools out that show ya stuff
[06:30] <BastardLinux> I want beer and grrls
[06:31] <marquisdesade> Dr_Willis: anything that comes with the default install?
[06:31] <liable> !info sysvconfig
[06:31] <ubotu> sysvconfig: (A text menu based utility for configuring init script links), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.10 (breezy), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 144 kB
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> marquisdesade,  no clue. i install stuff all the time. no idea whats even default
[06:31] <psusi> sorush20, I'd sugest bit tornado... I can't stand that bloated slow java junk azurus
[06:32] <marquisdesade> liable: thanks
[06:32] <rangerbob> looks like a lot of people here, hope some can take a minute or two for a newbie
[06:32] <liable> np
[06:33] <rangerbob> trying to get my ATI graphic drivers loaded, could use a litle help, if possible and THANKS!!
[06:33] <zane> hi, bac again
[06:33] <BastardLinux> rangerbob, you're not using gatos are you?
[06:34] <zane> does any user who is using a mac know any decent free repartitioning software I can use?
[06:34] <rangerbob> Tried ubuntus side and ATIs side and afraid its a no go
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> zane: use an ubuntu livecd and use gparted
[06:34] <zane> k, does it allow me to repartition without erasing the hard drive?
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> zane: yes it does.
[06:35] <z0rz> is there any easy way to get kde running on my ubuntu box without reinstalling?
[06:35] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, oh hfs+ ???
[06:35] <z0rz> I did the KDE package in synaptic-manager
[06:35] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: install "kubuntu-desktop"
[06:35] <rangerbob> sorry , not for sure about ganthos,
[06:35] <z0rz> damn, I just insatlled "kde"
[06:35] <zane> right, thanks a lot
[06:35] <z0rz> should I uninstall that?
[06:35] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: nope. just install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[06:36] <rangerbob> tried opening the bin file I downloaded and just cant get it to execute
[06:36] <z0rz> well I have like a billion extra apps
[06:36] <rangerbob> text editor or something mabey?
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> rangerbob: chmod +x filename.bin    then ./filename.bin
[06:36] <rangerbob> thank you!!!
[06:37] <BastardLinux> rangerbob, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:37] <BastardLinux> oops
[06:37] <BastardLinux> zane, http://gparted.sourceforge.net/features.php
[06:37] <rangerbob> thankyou!!
[06:37] <strav> ... sudo cron restart = cron: can't lock /var/run/crond.pid, otherpid may be 11956: Resource temporarily unavailable
[06:37] <strav>  ?
[06:37] <BastardLinux> it doesn't resize hfs
[06:37] <zane> bastardlinux, thanks I am on there now
[06:37] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: it shrinks hfs just fine, i use it on all my macs
[06:38] <zane> bastardlinux, damn
[06:38] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: we help folks in here all the time. we don't offer info that doesnt work
[06:38] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, explain the gparted.sf site then please
[06:39] <johndarkhorse> BastardLinux: i have no control over websites. i know what works for me. i own many macs, and have not had a problem.
[06:39] <zane> johndarkhorse, so it will allow me to resize my hfs 79 GB partition so that I can create a new 10 GB partition for ubuntu?
[06:39] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, I understand. I have tried gparted on my tibook, it didn't work.  I checked the website, and it is still reported not to work
[06:39] <johndarkhorse> zane: it should allow you to shrink your partition, yes.
[06:40] <BastardLinux> johndarkhorse, you must have a secret to share with gparted then, yes?
[06:41] <cafuego_> ush
[06:41] <stravin> argh.
[06:41] <cafuego> blood x-chat
[06:41] <cafuego> they just making it WORSE
[06:41] <zane> johndarkhorse, I have a ibook G4 which I bought a week ago. Have you ever tried gparted an ibook?
[06:41] <johndarkhorse> zane: yes i have.
[06:42] <zane> johndarkhorse, do you use the latest version of gparted to do it/
[06:42] <zane> ?
[06:42] <Phuzion> Anyone have a tutorial on user management?
[06:42] <johndarkhorse> zane: i use the breezy liveCD
[06:42] <Nihil85> hi! i have a big problem: internet connection doesn't work under Ubuntu. i have an ethernet adsl modem and i've done sudo pppoeconf and setted it properl but nothing happens. I try to ping a site but no signal of life
[06:43] <zane> johndarkhorse, gparted breezy liveCD or ubuntu breezy liveCD
[06:43] <liable> Nihil85: did you do pon dsl-provider?
[06:44] <Phuzion> How do I list users?
[06:44] <johndarkhorse> zane: i'm an ubuntu user. an ubuntu breezy liveCD  http://www.ubuntu.com/downloads
[06:44] <liable> Phuzion: 'users'
[06:46] <zane> johndarkhorse, right, this is what I am going to do. I will download the gparted file onto my usb flash drive and then boot up the Ubuntu breezy liveCD. Wish me luck :)
[06:46] <odat> hi everyone
[06:46] <BastardLinux> Phuzion, cat /etc/passwd ?
[06:46] <BastardLinux> Phuzion, w ?
[06:47] <psusi> gparted is installed on the livecd
[06:48] <odat> has anyone ever used this frostwire program
[06:48] <odat> its pretty cool
[06:48] <zane> psusi, gparted installed on the live cd? really
[06:51] <kenv> I am newb.  I finaly got ubuntu to play mpg.  How do I configure it now  to play dvd's.  I have a dvd player in the pc and it sees it but the dvd's will not play.
[06:52] <Davey|Work> at all?
[06:52] <Davey|Work> oh, you need to install libdecss or whatever its called, more than likely
[06:52] <javad> hi everybody
[06:52] <Davey|Work> !dvd
[06:52] <kenv> wher do I get them
[06:52] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell kenv about dvd
[06:53] <Davey|Work> !tell kenv about libdvdcss
[06:55] <maxtnk> 
[06:55] <odat> frostwire = free clone of limewire pro
[06:55] <xeox> hi all, I installed the k7 linux image and I was wondering whether I should use complete removal or just removal for the 386 one? :)
[06:56] <nosralboo> alrighty I have a serious issue here
[06:56] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
[06:56] <BastardLinux> xeox, just choose the new one in your grub screen
[06:56] <enlightenedone> hey all
[06:56] <nosralboo> I have 512 ram, and ubuntu is using 420 of it, even when i'm not runnning anything!
[06:56] <BastardLinux> xeox, unless you are low on hdd space, just keep the old one, hell it works :)
[06:56] <xeox> hehe ok :) thx
[06:56] <nosralboo> (besides system monitor)
[06:57] <odat> nosralboo, gnome and ubuntu are confronting memory leaks and fixing as many as they can for dapper
[06:57] <nosralboo> can someone tell me what is suckin up my resources, like is there somethin I should  know about to disable, i litterally just got ubuntu
[06:57] <enlightenedone> hey, i've d/led the latest kernel from kernel.org, but no checksum value is provided at the site...how can i check that my d/l is OK?
[06:57] <nosralboo> how do I fix that
[06:57] <korptix> how do i remove a program ?
[06:57] <ppd> hi. does anybody know a lightweight calendar app like sunbird or evolution's one ?
[06:57] <nosralboo> cuz it's slowing things down
[06:58] <primoturbo> whats the command to move a directory?
[06:58] <nosralboo> mv
[06:58] <nosralboo> wait
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, 'top' will tell you.
[06:58] <korptix> ..
[06:58] <nosralboo> ok
[06:58] <enlightenedone> nosralboo, what command are you using to einf out how much ram?
[06:58] <korptix> how do i remove a program ?
[06:58] <primoturbo> ty
[06:58] <nosralboo> just system monitor
[06:58] <enlightenedone> find
[06:58] <enlightenedone> type "free"
[06:58] <enlightenedone> that is more accurate than top
[06:58] <nosralboo> oh
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> korptix, sudo apt-get remove programname
[06:59] <korptix> ty
[06:59] <nosralboo> Mem:        516508     363924     152584          0      16844     221384
[06:59] <nosralboo> it's a bit diff now
[06:59] <nosralboo> oops
[06:59] <enlightenedone> the amount free on the second line is how much you actually have free
[06:59] <nosralboo>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[06:59] <nosralboo> Mem:        516508     363924     152584          0      16844     221384
[06:59] <nosralboo> OOOO
[06:59] <DarkFolken> hey guys, how hard/easy would it be to make ubuntu live AMD64 CD work off a flash drive?
[06:59] <Blippe_> nosralboo, try free -m
[06:59] <enlightenedone> you're missing the second line
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> nosralboo: please dont paste in here
[06:59] <Vashypooh> probably not too hard at all Dark
[07:00] <nosralboo>              total       used       free     shared    buffers     cached
[07:00] <nosralboo> Mem:           504        355        148          0         16        216
[07:00] <nosralboo> -/+ buffers/cache:        122        381
[07:00] <nosralboo> Swap:         1474          0       1474
[07:00] <enlightenedone> you have 381 MB free
[07:00] <Blippe_> nosralboo, stop pasting!
[07:00] <Vashypooh> as long as your bios supports loading off of usb drives
[07:00] <tonyyarusso> nosralboo, ops are going to be upset...
[07:00] <korptix> whats the best firewall to use ?
[07:00] <Hawk|-> Mem:        516364     501880      14484          0      50852     142652
[07:00] <nosralboo> oh alright
[07:00] <nosralboo> sorry about pastes lol
[07:00] <DarkFolken> Vashypooh: what would be the easisest way to do it?
[07:00] <enlightenedone> so ubuntu is not using that much of your 512 mb
[07:00] <nosralboo> ok ok
[07:00] <nosralboo> thank you
[07:00] <Blippe_> nosralboo, you should check the line -/+ buffers/cache....
[07:00] <Hawk|-> but mine
[07:00] <xeox> 138 mb used, not bad
[07:01] <korptix> whats the best firewall to use ?
[07:01] <Vashypooh> DarkFolken, I'd say just extract the ISO instead of burning it
[07:01] <enlightenedone> np
[07:01] <Blippe_> korptix,  i would guess that would be iptables since it is in the kernel!
[07:01] <enlightenedone> hope you don't get banned. LOL
[07:01] <odat> nosralboo, i good tool is in the add applictions menu its listed as system information  under system tools  you can add it through there
[07:02] <Blippe_> korptix, the gui to set it up (if you don't want to do it the hard way) is another matter.  I guess firestarter would be a good start
[07:02] <johndarkhorse> korptix: a firewall is not needed in a default install
[07:02] <korptix> nah i hate firestarter
[07:02] <javad> hi would you plz help me
[07:02] <javad> chrome://global/content/common/dialog.xul     line number1,column1
[07:02] <javad> javad what is this error inubuntu 5.10
[07:02] <javad> javad ?
[07:02] <javad> javad help me!!!!
[07:02] <javad> I have some error in ubuntu 5.10
[07:02] <korptix> well how do i edit kernel and edit it
[07:03] <Blippe_> you don't edit the kernel to set up a firewall...
[07:03] <korptix> i mean
[07:03] <korptix> no no no
[07:03] <korptix> i mean how do i edit kernel and recomplie it
[07:03] <Blippe_> you use the command iptable !
[07:03] <purserj> Hi everyone, just wondering if anybody has managed to get a SB Audigy LS working under breezy
[07:03] <d3mi4n> Howdy all, wondering if anyone could help me config my Airport extreme wireless card on my powerbook???I just installed breezy on it today?
[07:04] <Blippe_> korptix, start with https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[07:04] <korptix> ..
[07:04] <korptix> how do i edit it
[07:04] <javad> help me plz
[07:04] <Locke> how can i print out a manual page?
[07:05] <Blippe_> I guess you download the sources, but why do you wanna do that?
[07:05] <korptix> Locke : PrintScreenSySRq
[07:05] <korptix> why not Blippe_
[07:05] <Locke> kroptix: care to run that by me one more time?
[07:06] <d3mi4n> Howdy all, wondering if anyone could help me config my Airport extreme wireless card on my powerbook???I just installed breezy on it today?
[07:06] <korptix> Locke : hit PrintScreenSySRq
[07:06] <korptix> Locke : irs next to Scroll lock
[07:06] <korptix> *its
[07:06] <korptix> you mean screen shot right ?
[07:06] <Blippe_> well, for starters you don't know where to get the sources for the kernel, so i guess you wouldn't be too knowledgable about the rest of the system, but by all means go ahead, tinkering is the way to knowledge!
[07:07] <Locke> korptix... you can't be serious
[07:07] <korptix> ?
[07:08] <Blippe_> Locke do " man ls > bla.txt   " then print bla.txt?
[07:09] <Locke> Blippe_ i'd have no problem if i knew where the manual was for it
[07:09] <enlightenedone> Blippe_, do you know where the checksum value of the kernel is at kernel.org?
[07:09] <maxtnk> how add to start apach
[07:09] <Blippe_> nope
[07:09] <d3mi4n> Can anyone help me configure my Airport Wireless in my Powerbook for Linux plz??
[07:09] <defendguin> where can you change the setting where network drives and removable media get an icon on the desktop
[07:10] <defendguin> in gnome of course
[07:10] <Blippe> Locke which manual?
[07:10] <Locke> Blippe_ ping
[07:10] <odat> d3mi4n, did you check out ndiswrapper?
[07:10] <Blippe> man ping?
[07:10] <odat> or ndsiwrapper  something like that
[07:10] <nicholaspaul> odat, ndiswrapper doesnt work on ppc
[07:11] <Blippe> man ping > bla.txt
[07:11] <d3mi4n> nicholaspaul: is there a way to get it to work on ppc?
[07:11] <Locke> Blippe: and where does that save it?
[07:12] <Blippe> to bla.txt in the folder you are situated with the terminal
[07:12] <Blippe> Locke, why do you want to print it?
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> d3mi4n, there is, but as far as i can tell, its a little unstable. I think it will only work with Dapper, which is what i'm using.
[07:12] <nicholaspaul> d3mi4n, http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[07:13] <odat> nicholaspaul, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3389959
[07:13] <Locke> Blippe: reason A is because i want to test out my new printer and Reason B is... i'm bored
[07:14] <Blippe> defendguin, there is two ways, either by the preferences somewhere, which i don't know exactly, the second one with the configuration editor
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> odat - what am i meant to see?
[07:14] <odat> nicholaspaul, did you go to that page?
[07:14] <nicholaspaul> yes odat
[07:14] <odat> nicholaspaul, there are a couple links on that page that may be able to help you
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> odat, have you read them?
[07:15] <johndarkhorse> odat: there are drivers for the broadcom card
[07:15] <Blippe> defendguin, in configuration editor go apps - nautilus and there it is!
[07:15] <nicholaspaul> odat johndarkhorse there are. I have them. I got it working, but it seems unstable.
[07:15] <Psi-Jack> What was that URL where Linus was suggesting KDE, over Gnome? :)
[07:16] <Blippe> Psi-Jack didn't it have to do something about printing?
[07:16] <Psi-Jack> Ummm. Don't... Think so..
[07:16] <kenv> How can I get ubuntu to see dvd's? I hear the sound but cannot see the video.  i can se mpg files though.
[07:16] <gared> i have a problem with ntfs mounting. Can anyone help me?
[07:16] <Nihil85> hi! i cannot run my adsl connection under Ubuntu. I did pppoeconf, setted it right, i started the connection but nothing happens. Even if i try to ping a site, nothing really happens. What can i do?
[07:17] <odat> kenv, what player are you using?
[07:17] <kenv> totem
[07:17] <_clemens> Is there anyone online who can help with ejabberd? Thanks.
[07:17] <kenv> i do have realplayer also
[07:17] <Nihil85> 1 hours ago i was able to connect to internet, now no!!! why? why ubuntu is unstable?
[07:17] <gared> i used command "mount -w /dev/hda2 /mnt"
[07:17] <Nihil85> 1 hour*
[07:18] <odat> kenv, totem isn't really up to par yet  not that it won't be soon but i have found mplayer the all around by far the best player for everything
[07:18] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, what version do you have?
[07:18] <Blippe> Psi-Jack printing dialog?
[07:18] <Nihil85> breeze
[07:18] <Nihil85> .10
[07:18] <Psi-Jack> I found it. http://lists.osdl.org/pipermail/desktop_architects/2005-December/000390.html
[07:18] <Blippe> http://mail.gnome.org/archives/usability/2005-December/msg00021.html
[07:18] <gared> hmmm.
[07:18] <kenv> do you have a good install site for mplayer?
[07:18] <gared> is there anyone reading my msg?
[07:18] <odat> kenv, are you familiar with synaptic?
[07:19] <kenv> yes
[07:19] <Blippe> gared yes, ntfs mounting...
[07:19] <odat> kenv, do you have good repositories?
[07:19] <Blippe> !ntfs
[07:19] <cdubya> !ntfs
[07:19] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:19] <kenv> yes
[07:19] <gared> thank blippe.
[07:19] <Blippe> odat !source-o-matic
[07:19] <gared> my problem is i see all the file in my /mnt direct.
[07:19] <Blippe> ubotu tell odat about source-o-matic
[07:19] <gared> which is good.
[07:19] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, Breezy is very stable. You shouldnt have any troubles connecting to the net. I have two machines with Breezy that have been running for weeks now.
[07:20] <odat> kenv, then i would do a search in there uninstall totem mozilla plugin if you have it installed  and install mplayer, mplayer mozilla plugin & mplayer font
[07:20] <gared> but i can't import file through the default music player in ubuntu
[07:20] <odat> Blippe, thanks but i don't need to know about that lol
[07:20] <gared> the music player does't see the file on /mnt.
[07:21] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, 1 hour ago i was connected to internet... now i moved the laptop from the living room to the bedroom and it doesn't work!!!! it's incredible
[07:21] <Blippe> sorry odat, just read your "ken*, do you have good repositories?" and thought you needed 'em..
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  on wifi?
[07:21] <Nihil85> no, no
[07:21] <Nihil85> i have an ethernet modem
[07:21] <Nihil85> adsl ethernet modem
[07:21] <Nihil85> so i use a cable
[07:21] <gared> so anyone knows how to fix my problem?
[07:21] <Blippe> sorsis, gared, you'ra able to browse the folders mounted?
[07:21] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  then its prob not Ubuntu.
[07:22] <gared> yes
[07:22] <ssstormy> I have a harddrive that was originally detected as 200GB (which it is supposed to be) during the installation, but now for some reason it's only 180GB.  I was wondering, is this cause the partition table was written that way?  can I erase the partition table and repartition to get the right table at 200GB?
[07:22] <gared> from root terminal not from the music player
[07:22] <Nihil85> but why windows can be connected and ubuntu not? nicholaspaul, i'm confused about this OS
[07:22] <Blippe> gared and with nautilus?
[07:22] <gared> no
[07:22] <Blippe> gared without root acces...
[07:22] <gared> i just log on.
[07:22] <nicholaspaul> not sure Nihil85
[07:23] <Nihil85> uhmmmm
[07:23] <Nihil85> it's incredible
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85,  obviously, i would check your Networking settings.
[07:23] <nicholaspaul> and make sure you have a spare IP.
[07:23] <gared> you means i have to log in root on music player?
[07:23] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, i'vchecked ipconfig eth0
[07:23] <gared> how?
[07:24] <Blippe> ok, then the files are probably owned by "some else", you gotta chown them as su or root to the user you normally are!
[07:24] <Nihil85> everything seems to be like the last time
[07:24] <_clemens> ubotu:!ejabberd
[07:24] <ubotu> No idea, _clemens
[07:24] <floppyears> hi
[07:24] <floppyears> are mp3 files usually larger than ogg files ?
[07:24] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, network probs drive me nuts too! I would say its something obvious like a dodgy cable, clashing ip, stuff like that, but I wouldnt blame Ubuntu quite yet.
[07:25] <deFrysk> floppyears, yes
[07:25] <Blippe> gared, are you confused about using nautilus?
[07:25] <floppyears> deFrysk: may I ask why ?
[07:25] <Vashypooh> Anyone here to be able to help me combat ATI drivers
[07:25] <deFrysk> floppyears, ogg is recent tech mp3 is old tech
[07:25] <gared> what is nautilus?
[07:25] <floppyears> thanks :)
[07:25] <Nihil85> ssstormy, there's no possibility to gain taht 20gb, because this is a normal "translation"; 102kb =1mb, ecc ecc
[07:26] <gared> sorry, i am noob.
[07:26] <gared> :P
[07:26] <Blippe> that is the filebrowser, like explorer in windows...
[07:26] <gared> oh
[07:26] <Blippe> it is the program that is started when you clikc places in the menu at top!
[07:26] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, the problem is: why Ubuntu and not win?
[07:26] <Blippe> try using it to get to your ntfs-drive
[07:27] <gared> oh thank
[07:27] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, Id say its your settings somewhere. i have a network with OSX, Windows and Ubuntu, and it all works fine. Most of my problems are with the Network Administrator! ;-)
[07:28] <Nihil85> nicholaspaul, so why 1 hour ago it worked and now it doesn't work?
[07:28] <floppyears> is id3tag a command ?
[07:28] <Blippe> if you don't get to the files from there, but does from root-terminal, you got a problem with the ownership of the files
[07:28] <nicholaspaul> Nihil85, fraid i cant tell ya. But i have to say that Breezy is perfectly stable.
[07:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85, most probably when u shifted from one room to other. your cable /clip must have been jacked..
[07:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  just check.
[07:28] <Blippe> floppyears, there is a prog which you are able to iinstall which have that name and is used in a terminal yes!
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85, i use a cable too, and i have no problems yet with connectivity.... using exatt .
[07:29] <gared> blippe, it said i don't have the permission.
[07:29] <Nihil85> s_spiff{AWAY}, the cable is ok, in fact i'm talking to you via internet
[07:29] <floppyears> Blippe: thank you
[07:29] <Blippe> gared, i guess i could say excellent now, because now we know the problem!
[07:29] <Nihil85> s_spiff{AWAY}, the only matter is that i have to boot windows to connect
[07:29] <s_spiff{AWAY}> hmm.. u using pppoe?
[07:30] <Nihil85> yes
[07:30] <Nihil85> and i've done ppoeconf
[07:30] <gared> blippe, is there a default password for su.
[07:30] <gared> cause i never set up su password.
[07:30] <gared> i just set up the user and root.
[07:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}> so u do start the internet by 'pon dsl-provider' right?
[07:30] <s_spiff{AWAY}> Nihil85,
[07:31] <Nihil85> i setted it properly, i make an at boot connection, i started with pon dsl-provider
[07:31] <maxtnk> how start apatch
[07:31] <gared> i tried all su  password combination using my root pwd
[07:31] <Blippe> gared, the sudo passowrd is the same as your user password, and you shouldn't have setup a root-password, as the setup of ubuntu, kind of relies a its safety on that!
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[07:47] <ravi> thanks!
[07:47] <Blippe> damn splits
[07:47] <ravi> ugh
[07:47] <Psi-Jack> johndarkhorse: How does "enabling root break some functionality?" I really want to know this.
[07:47] <Blippe> ugh
[07:47] <maxtnk> help me  how add to start apatch2
[07:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Psi-Jack about root
[07:47] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
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[07:47] <Nihil85> a little bit of demographic incrementation
[07:47] <Nihil85> a little moment of peace
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> Nihil85, you probably have a dodgy network cable
[07:47] <NoNamer> /usr/local/apache/logs/
[07:47] <Psi-Jack> johndarkhorse: I see nowhere in here where it says it'll break any functionality.
[07:47] <Nihil85> KrulleTrap, i don't think so because i was connected to the net withot problem under windows...
[07:47] <NoNamer> somebody asked for apachlogs
[07:47] <jariep1__> where can I find the web logs to apache 2 in ubuntu?
[07:47] <_clemens> Anyone here know anything about ejabberd?
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> Nihil85,  an on/off problem is usually hardware
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> jariep1__, it just told you /usr/local/apache/logs/
[07:47] <jariep1__> oh sorry
[07:47] <shad0w1e> Hi. I'm using an extremely stripped down system. How can I get it to auto-log me in?
[07:47] <jariep1__> RedGreenBlue, tha nk you
[07:47] <henry_> hello
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> np
[07:47] <Nihil85> KrulleTrap, an on/off problem also changing OS?
[07:47] <gared> thanks. i got it work now gksudo in run appliation
[07:47] <KrulleTrap> on/off as in: can't connect, do nothing and then get a connection
[07:47] <gared> thanks bliee and ubotu
[07:47] <iceraven> Is there a good doc/web page about moving from windows to ubuntu?
[07:47] <steve44> *hic*
[07:47] <RedGreenBlue> gared, what did you start with gksudo?
[07:48] <CAHEK> Zdarova grajdane
[07:48] <henry_> does anyone know heaps about clamav in here?
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[07:48] <Psi-Jack> johndarkhorse: And, I don't see how it /could/ break anything. Just having direct access to root. Besides it "shouldn't be done" by just anyone, at any time, unless they know what they are doing, when they are doing it.
[07:48] <Krelbel> ...hmm.  quick question
[07:49] <Krelbel> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[07:49] <Krelbel> tells me to install
[07:49] <gared> i start with gksudo program-name in run application. cause i have to problem with the file system owner for the application.
[07:49] <Krelbel> Libraries (multiverse) > gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[07:49] <vladuz976> will vista have an effect on linux? you guys think lots of ppl will go for the new windows?
[07:49] <Krelbel> but I don't see it in the synaptic list
[07:49] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: Ummm. Windows and Linux are two totally different beings.
[07:49] <Blippe> gared, why not give the acces to the normal user instead?
[07:50] <vladuz976> Psi-Jack: yeah, but lot's of ppl are dissapointed with security issues in xp, they might have turned to linux instead. but if vista promises to fix that?
[07:50] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: The fact that Linux is, and will always be free, and Windows Vista will start out around $300 or more, is one measurement that most people will have to do themselves. Windows users will still use Windows, obviously.
[07:50] <henry_> does clamav have a gui???????????
[07:50] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: Windows's security issues are extreme, and they won't be able to recover with just one new edition.
[07:51] <Psi-Jack> henry_: Not last time I checked. No. Why would it need one?
[07:51] <Krelbel> so... any ideas why gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse isn't available?
[07:52] <henry_> how does it work (im new to linux)
[07:52] <Nihil85> vladuz976, to set Windows ok with security, we have to change it in Linux
[07:52] <Blippe> Psi-Jack, if "noobs" start linux and everybody starts with root access and runs everything like that because it is easier, then we're closer to win's bad sides than we want to. That's a good reaseon to keep people from using the root account.
[07:52] <Psi-Jack> henry_: man clamav
[07:52] <vladuz976> Nihil85: lol
[07:52] <henry_> i dont have a clamav manual
[07:52] <palmerc> Well they have been working on Vista forever, so maybe they got it right. :) Really I think there will be some difficulty getting Windows XP users to move to Vista
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: But people here keep lying, and saying it'll "break things". When it, itself will not. It should be strongly discouraged, rather than flat-out lying about it.
[07:53] <Blippe> henry_, the clamav is for finding and destrying windows viruses and are quite useless on your linux machine!
[07:53] <Krelbel> is there a way i can update my distro?  i installed off a hoary cd
[07:53] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Not if you run a mailserver, using clamscan for the AV. :)
[07:53] <vladuz976> Psi-Jack: 300 bucks is some serious money. i wonder how dell and all those are gonna deal with it. coz then their stuff will have to go up to since they ship with windows
[07:53] <henry_> Im using my linux machine a mail server and im hopping clamav will stop viruses before they get to my linux machine
[07:54] <Blippe> I don't really know if it will break things, but have been told so... :D but yeah, i see what you are meaning..
[07:54] <dusik> vladuz976: dell, etc. get OEM pricing :)
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> vladuz976: That's easy. Dell, HP, Gateway, etc, get it at OEM pricing.
[07:54] <Krelbel> vladuz976: ...yeah what dusik said
[07:54] <Krelbel> so
[07:54] <Krelbel> how do I update my distro :D?
[07:54] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Yeah. It really actually pisses me off, seeing lies like that spread, for absolutely no reason. :)
[07:54] <Blippe> Psi-Jack... I just might try to run a mailserver just cause of that now...
[07:54] <deicidus> hi everyone. i just installed ubuntu, and my first problem is that i can't right click or scroll with two fingers. can anyone help?
[07:55] <Blippe> deicidus, does it work with one finger?
[07:55] <corza> hey guys i just tried installing firefox 1.5 from the guide on the ubuntu wiki.. and i get loads of errors and now it wont open.
[07:56] <deicidus> Blippe, what do you mean? im using an ibook g4, so it has one button and normally you can scroll with two fingers
[07:56] <vladuz976> deicidus: have you tried with one finger?
[07:56] <shad0w1e> anyone know how I can have my system autologin (without kdm or gdm)?
[07:56] <corza> i just tried installing firefox 1.5 from the guide on the ubuntu wiki.. and i get loads of errors and now it wont open.
[07:56] <henry_> use automatix
[07:56] <Nihil85> how much is an ibook?
[07:56] <Blippe> oh, you got an ibook, then i can't help you, i know nothing about them!
[07:57] <Blippe> !automatix
[07:57] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[07:57] <deicidus> vladuz976, you mean where the right edge will scroll? no.
[07:57] <deicidus> Blippe, ok, thanks anyway
[07:57] <corza> does anyone know about firefox 1.5??
[07:57] <Psi-Jack> corza: Yes, it's very nice.
[07:57] <Vashypooh> wow, what are going on with these servers today ;x
[07:57] <Blippe> henry_ saw what ubotu just told you? Don't use automatix, and don't encourage others to either!
[07:57] <corza> Psi_jack: yes but i'm getting errors when i try to run it
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> !firefox1.5
[07:58] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:58] <uenyioha> is there any way to disable the ubuntu automount?
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> corza: Try following that guide.
[07:58] <corza> i did
[07:58] <corza> all i get is errors now
[07:58] <Psi-Jack> corza: You didn't follow it correctly, then..
[07:58] <Nihil85> how much is an ibook?
[07:58] <corza> Psi-Jack i did every single step
[07:58] <deicidus> around $1000
[07:59] <Blippe> uenyioha gnome-volume-manager handles the automounts, but if you just don't want the mounted volumes showing up on your desktop, that is easier to fix!
[07:59] <henry_> croza: so did i and it worked
[07:59] <corza> well up to: try it out, i typed in firefox and got like 100 errors
[07:59] <Psi-Jack> corza: I followed it to the T, and it worked fine.
[07:59] <deicidus> nihil, around $1000, but make sure you wait and get the new intel ones that are coming out soon
[07:59] <Nihil85> deicidus, thanks
[07:59] <uenyioha> i want to connect my ipod to my laptop
[07:59] <czr> deicidus, they will be cheaper?
[07:59] <varsendagger> hey what is the launcer that looks like osx called?
[07:59] <Krelbel> hey, how do I upgrade from hoary to breezy?  ubuntuguide.org says one thing, but help.ubuntu.com says that the same thing will update me to Breezy +1, which I don't want
[07:59] <Nihil85> deicidus, whaaaaaaaaat!?!!?!? to buy something palladium-like?!?!?!!?
[07:59] <uenyioha> but i dont want the automount to kick in mount the drive
[08:00] <Blippe> czr they will have more support for linux
[08:00] <Vashypooh> anyone here wanna try to help me with my ATI issues? =x
[08:00] <czr> Blippe, based on what?
[08:00] <czr> it's perfectly possible to do closed hardware design with intel as well
[08:00] <Krelbel> i just want breezy so i can follow help.ubuntu.com
[08:00] <deicidus> czr, maybe a little, but more importantly they will have the new processor and not become obsolete as fast
[08:00] <nicholaspaul> Krelbel, go to /etc/apt/sources.list and change 'hoary' to 'breezy'
[08:00] <henry_> anyone know how to stop events from showing xchat
[08:00] <Krelbel> nicholaspaul, won't that take me to breezy +1?
[08:00] <Krelbel> that's what help.ubuntu.com says
[08:00] <Psi-Jack> Has anyone here heard of Intel's new modular BIOS replacement they're coming up with?
[08:00] <Blippe> I don't know, that is what i've been told , and as you have seen earlier today, I beleive every stupid thing i hear!
[08:00] <czr> deicidus, everything becomes obsolete :-) but yea, that might be a point
[08:00] <deicidus> nihil85, well it's up to you, but i'd wait until the next product announcement for the ibook replacement before buying, for sure
[08:00] <nicholaspaul> krelbel, oh ok, i'm not aware of +1.. sorry.
[08:00] <czr> Psi-Jack, it's called EFI and not that new
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> im so happy
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, phoenix and microsoft did an x86-EFI implementation around 2000-2001
[08:01] <nicholaspaul> why?
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, EFI is used in itaniums currently. very nice system IMHO
[08:01] <Krelbel> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch11.html <-- that's what it says
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Oh.. Well.. Didn't hear about that. :)
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> finally got ubuntu installed on my pc. damn benq based cd roms
[08:01] <Krelbel> which is confusing
[08:01] <linuxmonkey> they like to break installs
[08:01] <Krelbel> i just want breezy, not breezy +1 xD
[08:01] <czr> Psi-Jack, marketing always spins everything as 'new and exciting'. no wonder :-)
[08:01] <varsendagger> hey what is the launcer that looks like osx called?
[08:01] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yeah, I read about it on google news the other day. :)
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> krelbel does it say what the diff between +1 and reg. breezy is?
[08:02] <czr> it's like remote desktops in windows, "woo, never before were you able to use graphical desktops over the network". like, excuse me :--)
[08:02] <Krelbel> says +1 will break your system
[08:02] <Krelbel> and regular breezy won't
[08:02] <Krelbel> xD
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> oh...
[08:02] <varsendagger> that does the bigger icons?
[08:02] <Krelbel> 11.1. 	
[08:02] <Krelbel> How to upgrade from Breezy Badger to Breezy Badger +1 (experimental)?
[08:02] <Krelbel> 
[08:02] <Krelbel> [Warning]  	
[08:02] <Krelbel> This is still in very early, highly unstable development stage. Only use it for experimental purposes. Doing this will most likely break your entire system!
[08:02] <nicholaspaul> please dont paste here....
[08:02] <Krelbel> sorry
[08:02] <czr> krebel, that might mean dapper (the +1)
[08:02] <Krelbel> didn't know it was 5 lines
[08:03] <nicholaspaul> np. some people get excited... ;)
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: Heh, I'm more impressed, seeing KDE, and even apparently Gnome too, using a standardized protocol. VNC, for sharing the actual logged-in account, using xrfb.
[08:03] <varsendagger> i mean the zooming icons
[08:03] <Blippe> what is the +1
[08:03] <czr> Psi-Jack, yeah, too sad they chose to implement something totally insecure as the default
[08:03] <corza> Psi-Jack: i ran through the guide properly. but it still comes up with errors.
[08:03] <Psi-Jack> czr: How is it insecure?
[08:04] <czr> Psi-Jack, all data is sent as is without encryption or authentication
[08:04] <czr> and the 'login' is using weak authentication to start with without MITM-protection
[08:04] <Psi-Jack> czr: Hmmm.. I see. Yeah, that would make it insecure alright. Over sniffable networks at least.
[08:04] <lapducky> Holy Quackers -- even kill -1 -1  just restarts the installer!
[08:04] <Krelbel> argh, i just want media playing working :(
[08:04] <czr> Psi-Jack, all LANs are sniffable
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, and only crazy people would run VNC over public networks (internet)
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yes. IF the intruder is within the LAN.
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, see above point
[08:05] <lapducky> They've tried to make Dapper indestructible by normals means (somebody get me some Draconic kryptonite!)
[08:05] <czr> bruteforcing VNC is quite easy too, since the authentication is weak
[08:05] <Psi-Jack> czr: That's what a good IPSEC or VPN tunnel is good for. :)
[08:05] <czr> Psi-Jack, and kde/gnome use that by default? ;--)
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> czr: That's not up to KDE/Gnome. That's totally different.
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, I know. the problem is the 'by default' thing
[08:06] <Vashypooh> Anyone want to try to help me work out some of my ATI problems
[08:06] <Krelbel> so... hate to interrupt, but can you help me update to breezy? >_>
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, I like the approach that nm! took with NX
[08:06] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia setup complaining bout gcc4?
[08:06] <czr> Psi-Jack, specialized low-bandwidth X over ssh
[08:06] <Psi-Jack> czr: Well, "by default", KDE's remote desktop, xrfb, is by invitation only using an OTP.
[08:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, that is about the only thing that is done right there (OTP) :-)
[08:07] <Blippe> One time password?
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> czr: Yep yep.. heh. They weren't stupid. :)
[08:07] <czr> Psi-Jack, and don't get me wrong, it's quite nice. but still, sad that it is insecure
[08:07] <Blippe> :D
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Yes.
[08:07] <Psi-Jack> czr: That's VNC's fault, though. :)
[08:08] <Blippe> that makes me worthy of a cookie!
[08:08] <czr> Psi-Jack, no it's not. VNC never claimed to be secure. in fact, it cannot be :-). automatic tunneling trough ssh wouldn't have been that hard to implement though
[08:08] <Psi-Jack> Blippe: Check your browser. I'm sure you'll find a couple there. :)
[08:08] <Blippe> i'm out of cookies
[08:08] <czr> cookie even
[08:08] <Blippe> thanks!
[08:08] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia setup complaining bout gcc4?
[08:09] <Blippe> should we stop blabbering and see if people with problems start asking questions again?
[08:09] <czr> blippe, like that would ever stop? ;-)
[08:09] <maruchan> someone told me that gaim has themes is that true
[08:09] <maruchan> ?
[08:10] <nbound> what do i need to do to stop nvidia driver install complaining bout gcc4? anyone???
[08:10] <czr> maruchan, http://www.google.fi/search?q=gaim+themes&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:unofficial
[08:10] <Blippe> maruchan, check out gaim.sourceforge.net and check for yourself
[08:10] <egkamp> nboundd: perhaps you could install the gcc it wants?  just a thought
[08:10] <nbound> egkamp, it wants the old gcc3.4
[08:11] <czr> although I think that the themes means actually icon themes
[08:11] <czr> gaim is a gtk software though, you could use gtk themes if you want to break a working UI design
[08:11] <Krelbel> sorry, can anyone help me upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[08:11] <Blippe> Krelbel,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:12] <czr> the upgrade might break some things
[08:12] <czr> that was my experience at least
[08:12] <Krelbel> well, i just formatted yesterday
[08:12] <czr> install 5.10 directly then
[08:12] <Thinkingman> anyone got time to help a semi-noob with mount and permissions issues?
[08:12] <Krelbel> so worst come to worst, i can just download/burn the 5.10 cd
[08:12] <Krelbel> yeah
[08:12] <czr> might be less painful in the long run
[08:12] <Krelbel> probably
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, what's your problem?
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, when you mount something manually only root can access the files?
[08:13] <Thinkingman> hey
[08:13] <Thinkingman> took the words right from my mouth
[08:13] <maxtnk> what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:13] <Thinkingman> what am I missing?
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, then you're probably mounting something non-unixy
[08:13] <czr> Thinkingman, ntfs, vfat, iso?
[08:13] <Thinkingman> smbfs
[08:13] <Thinkingman> a windows smb share
[08:14] <czr> right, give me a sec, I'll check the opts you need
[08:14] <Thinkingman> k thanx
[08:14] <czr> the base problem is that windows doesn't implement unix access rights
[08:14] <czr> or ownerships. so the only thing that you can do on linux side is fake that some user owns all the files
[08:14] <czr> by default that one user is root
[08:14] <Thinkingman> I understand that, and I've tried blowing permissions wide open on both sides
[08:14] <czr> Thinkingman, very bad idea ;-)
[08:14] <Thinkingman> oh yeah, just for testing, ;)
[08:15] <Thinkingman> I'm studying for my CISSP and I had to laugh a little when I did that
[08:15] <czr> heh
[08:16] <czr> some filesystem drivers have special options in order to set the perms, masks and ownerships
[08:16] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:16] <czr> in this case you'd want to know what smbfs supports
[08:16] <czr> however, smbfs mounting is really implemented using smbmount, so check that manpage
[08:16] <czr> probably -o uid=foo,gid=bar
[08:16] <Thinkingman> I've already tried those options
[08:16] <czr> what happens?
[08:16] <Thinkingman> and it mounts
[08:17] <Thinkingman> and I can read, but not write as anyone but root
[08:17] <czr> so it's a local problem (as opposed to windows/ntfs-problem)
[08:17] <Thinkingman> I'm pretty sure
[08:17] <czr> your access rights are probably wrong then. what do you use for perms?
[08:17] <czr> it is, since writes succeed
[08:17] <Thinkingman> well normally 755, but I've tried setting 777 and that even fails
[08:17] <Krelbel>  Change your repositories to look for Breezy
[08:17] <czr> windows only thinks that user X is connected (the username parameter in smbfs)
[08:18] <Krelbel> how do I do that >_>
[08:18] <Thinkingman> and 755 should work for the user I'm logged in as
[08:18] <czr> Thinkingman, you on the host right now?
[08:18] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:18] <Vashypooh> anyone wanna help me combat this problem please? : error while loading shared libraries: libGL.so.1: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[08:18] <czr> Thinkingman, if so, would you mind doing ls -lad /path/to/mointpoint
[08:18] <Thinkingman> yeah no prob
[08:18] <Krelbel> it's probably glaringly easy
[08:18] <Krelbel> i'm just not seeing it
[08:18] <Madpilot_elsewhe> Vashypooh, have you searched for that file? Does it actually exist?
[08:18] <czr> Krelbel, you need to edit /etc/apt/sources
[08:19] <Krelbel> it says change your repositories to look for breezy, but i can't see where
[08:19] <Vashypooh> yea, I have found it listed in a few places
[08:19] <Krelbel> ah
[08:19] <czr> sources.list even
[08:19] <Thinkingman> czr: drwxr-xr-x  1 root root 4096 2006-01-14 13:53 /mnt/bartc
[08:19] <Krelbel> thanks
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, at the moment it is mounted with root.root then
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, no wonder only root can write :-)
[08:19] <sagarp> i recently did dist-upgraded to dapper, but my X server wont start...it says it cant find kbd or mouse :(
[08:19] <czr> Thinkingman, give me a sec, I'll give you the magic blurb
[08:19] <Thinkingman> you got it
[08:19] <Vashypooh> it exists in /lib
[08:19] <Vashypooh> it does not however exist in lib32
[08:19] <Thinkingman> if you wouldn't mind, I'd like to figure out the why in addition to the how
[08:19] <maxtnk> who knows? what add in loading apatch2 and squid
[08:20] <czr> Thinkingman, can you privmsg me the mount command line you used (without the password if you gave one on command line)
[08:20] <Vashypooh> Im on 64bit Ubuntu, do you think i should copy it into /lib32?
[08:20] <Thinkingman> czr: no prob
[08:20] <Vashypooh> and actually, i dont see it in /lib64 ._.;;;;;
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, the program you're trying to run is a 32-bit binary so it cannot use 64-bit libs. instead it looks for the libs in lib32
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, so you should install the 32-bit versions of libs
[08:21] <FarrisG> Is there a safe/sane way to get 2.6.15 on a currently-breezy box?
[08:21] <czr> copying the 64-bit version will not work
[08:21] <Vashypooh> Sounds easy enuf, can you assist me in that process (Sorry im still fairly new)
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, not really :-). don't even know whether ubuntu supports mixed bit libs
[08:21] <Vashypooh> ._.;;
[08:21] <czr> Vashypooh, so far all my boxes have been pure 32-bit or pure 64-bit
[08:22] <Vashypooh> I'm trying to install the ATI drivers
[08:22] <shad0w1e> how do I change my computer to start up in X mode?
[08:22] <czr> Vashypooh, they won't work if they're 32-bit
[08:22] <maxtnk> what add in autothread of the program?
[08:22] <Vashypooh> ._.;
[08:22] <codeant> Hi, all
[08:22] <Vashypooh> does that mean I'm going to need to switch to 32 bit? ><
[08:23] <maxtnk> Vashypooh: only 24 bit
[08:23] <Vashypooh> I was hopeing to remain on 64bit, i was hopeing to get most out of my new proc
[08:24] <Vashypooh> the libgl.so.1 exists in /usr/lib as well
[08:25] <sagarp> has anyone heard of the error, where X cant find the kbd or mouse drivers, even though i've installed xserver-xorg-input-kbd/mouse??
[08:25] <bretzel> Hi there! using DapperFlight2 very fresh installation and have to manually do < ifup eth0 >  ...
[08:26] <maxtnk> that nobody does not know what add in loading apatch2 and squid?
[08:26] <trappist> sagarp: I had that problem on dapper once
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: did you solve it?
[08:27] <maxtnk>  that nobody does not know what add in loading apatch2 and squid?
[08:27] <trappist> sagarp: the driver packages were missing the actual drivers.  I solved it by wiping out and quitting dapper.
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: ah i see =/
[08:27] <sagarp> trappist: would changing "dapper" to "breezy" in sources.list and then dist-upgrading work?
[08:28] <Madpilot_elsewhe> maxtnk, repeating your question endlessly isn't likely to get faster answers...
[08:28] <trappist> sagarp: no, you can't downgrade
[08:28] <sagarp> trappist :(
[08:28] <garry> Nor would it magically enlighten those who don't know, tho it would be nice if it did.
[08:28] <sagarp> trappist: could i get kbd/mouse and install them?
[08:28] <trappist> sagarp: you might try apt-get update and apt-get upgrade and see if the problem has been fixed
[08:29] <sagarp> trappist: well i jsut did this last night...do you think it would be solved by now?
[08:29] <trappist> sagarp: it would be some pretty quick turnaround time, but it's worth a shot
[08:30] <lightbright> how can i wipe or totally securely format hdb?
[08:30] <maxtnk> Madpilot_elsewhe: want the answer, question I consider the idle time, I earlier was on gentoo has solved to try ubuntu and appeared the questions.
[08:30] <lightbright> ant ideas anyoner?
[08:30] <sagarp> trappist: hmm do you think the breezy packages for those would work out?
[08:30] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: visit dban.sourceforge.net and read carefully
[08:30] <ssstormy> lightbright, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:31] <jariep1___> i'm looking through my web log, how can I find the location of an IP address according to region?
[08:31] <lightbright> ssstormy:  what?
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb
[08:31] <ssstormy> lightbright, just use that command, starting from the "dd" part
[08:31] <ssstormy> in a terminal
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: do that half a dozen times and it'll be pretty unrecoverable
[08:31] <ssstormy> it will set every single bit in the device to "0"
[08:31] <lightbright> dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb  <--  this wipes the hdb?
[08:31] <Vashypooh> Guess im gonna go reload into 32bit ;-;
[08:31] <ssstormy> lightbright, /dev/urandom and /dev/null are special
[08:31] <trappist> lightbright: it overwrites the whole thing with random bits
[08:31] <lightbright> trappist: is it dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb   or as ssstormy said?
[08:32] <ssstormy> urandom is random
[08:32] <ssstormy> bits
[08:32] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: visiting dban.sourceforge.net is an option, also
[08:32] <ssstormy> null is all 0
[08:32] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: ok
[08:32] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, that's less exciting than command prompt :)
[08:32] <trappist> lightbright: /dev/null or /dev/zero will zero it out.  /dev/random or /dev/urandom will write random bits.
[08:32] <lightbright> ssstormy: so you also recommend dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb ?
[08:33] <lightbright> trappist: which is most secure?
[08:33] <nbound> !nvidia
[08:33] <ubotu> nvidia is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[08:33] <menko> hi, does anyone know a tool similar to the mandriva font install tool? That had an option to search for (uninstalled) windows fonts on the partitions and it installed them.
[08:33] <trappist> lightbright: of those four, either urandom or random - I forget which is more random :)
[08:33] <Madpilot_elsewhe> lightbright, if you want to securely delete stuff, there's also the "shred" util - try "man shred" for details
[08:34] <trappist> yeah, shred will accomplish pretty much the same thing
[08:34] <egkamp> doesn't shred have issues on journaled filesystems?
[08:34] <trappist> but iirc it operates on files, not devices
[08:34] <ssstormy> lightbright, dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:34] <johndarkhorse> lightbright: dban.sourceforge.net has a bootable disk that will cleanse your whole system
[08:34] <Madpilot_elsewhe> trappist, you can use it on an entire partition
[08:34] <Vashypooh> Question: When I reinstall to Ubuntu 32bit from the 64 bit. What is Grub gonna do?
[08:34] <ssstormy> is probably the most secure
[08:34] <trappist> Madpilot_elsewhe: cool
[08:34] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: ok
[08:34] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, that might screw him accidentally if he wants to keep hda or something
[08:34] <lightbright> johndarkhorse: but i need to keep dha
[08:35] <lightbright> hda
[08:35] <egkamp> Vashypooh: have you considered installing the 64 bit ATI RPM?
[08:35] <ssstormy> lightbright, then make damn well sure you unplug your hda disk before using dban
[08:35] <lightbright> ssstormy:  dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb   or   dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb ?
[08:35] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah but don't do urandom
[08:35] <lightbright> ssstormy: why?
[08:36] <lightbright> trappist: said its ok
[08:36] <ssstormy> well, that will leave the disc scattered full of junk
[08:36] <Vashypooh> I installed ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run
[08:36] <ssstormy> I suppose it dosn't matter
[08:36] <lightbright> ssstormy:  ok, ill do dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:36] <jariep1___> how do i disable ACPI in ubuntu/kubuntu, as I want to have a web server running all the time?
[08:36] <nbound> what comman do i use to set the CC to 3.4
[08:36] <ssstormy> but it would seem to me a zeroed disk would be better
[08:36] <nbound> command*
[08:36] <Madpilot_elsewhe> interesting - I just realized that the LiveCD runs on UTC - no option to pick timezone during the boot sequence
[08:37] <lightbright> ssstormy:  ok, ill type: dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb
[08:37] <ssstormy> jariep1___, install BUM and disable acpi
[08:37] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah
[08:37] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, maybe u can add it at the boot command line =S
[08:37] <lightbright> ok ty
[08:37] <lightbright> bye
[08:37] <nbound> what command do i use to set the system to gcc3.4
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> nbound: before your command type "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 COMMAND"
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> nbound: please don't repeat so often
[08:38] <nbound> johndarkhorse, what if i want to do it pernamently
[08:38] <jariep1___> ssstormy, thanks
[08:38] <Madpilot_elsewhe> nbound, you might be able to - I might look into that - I'm housesitting w/ only a cranky Win98 computer...
[08:38] <geneo93> i need some network help like dhcp just dont work
[08:38] <trappist> nbound: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[08:38] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, heeh =P
[08:38] <ssstormy> geneo93, over wireless?
[08:38] <trappist> nbound: wait don't do that!
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> nbound: then put "export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 into your ~/.bashrc
[08:39] <SFlirting> how can I instal .deb files?
[08:39] <geneo93> no firewall router ssstormy
[08:39] <trappist> nbound: it's sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[08:39] <trappist> got it backwards :)
[08:39] <Madpilot_elsewhe> nbound, this machine runs the Breezy LiveCD about as fast as it runs the installed Win98, which says something about how messed up Win98 is...
[08:39] <geneo93> forcing me to use something else
[08:39] <nbound> Madpilot_elsewhe, lol, thats not good at all :O
[08:39] <egkamp> Vashy: after you ran ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run, did you run /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxconfig
[08:39] <ssstormy> geneo93, wait so is it a router you buy off a shelf, or a computer router?
[08:39] <nbound> johndarkhorse, trappist thanx
[08:40] <egkamp> Vashypooh: after you ran ati-driver-installer-8.20.8-x86_64.run, did you run /usr/X11R6/bin/fglrxconfig
[08:40] <geneo93> i dont know why networking in ubuntu is so fscked up
[08:40] <Vashypooh> No, I was advised by everyone to not go anywhere near that
[08:40] <ssstormy> geneo93, actually it's pretty awsome for me
[08:41] <geneo93> well i have a zonet router firewall works great with everything else but ubuntu
[08:41] <ssstormy> how are you connecting?
[08:42] <geneo93> i did the edit of modprobe.alilieses
[08:42] <geneo93> cable modem
[08:42] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary one again?
[08:42] <ssstormy> I mean, how do you connect to the router? cat5?
[08:42] <egkamp> Vashypooh: the ATI site install instructions indicate that after running the installer script you still need to to configure the driver, but listen to people who know
[08:42] <geneo93> eth0
[08:42] <geneo93> yes
[08:42] <JaZy84> how can you mount an iso ?
[08:43] <Vashypooh> Egkamp, its installed and im in Ubuntu using fglxr
[08:43] <ssstormy> geneo93, I never had to do any modprobe config
[08:43] <Vashypooh> the problem is those libs
[08:43] <ssstormy> use system->admin->networking
[08:43] <lapducky_> You should also have a mapping section, and ifupdown should be called by init.
[08:43] <bretzel> ...Upgrading Dapper -- lots of stuff! ;_)
[08:43] <ssstormy> so long as the device is ifconfig _name_ up  eed
[08:43] <Vashypooh> egkamp, can you please check this http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198 and check the 3rd attachment
[08:43] <geneo93> i need the dhcp working for other boxes that aren't here atm
[08:43] <lapducky_> bretzel
[08:43] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary change of gcc command again?
[08:43] <ssstormy> JaZy84, mount file.iso /flolder -o loop
[08:44] <geneo93> just to disable ipv6
[08:44] <lapducky_> Heh, drop and reconnect here so quickly that I can't tell that I've dropped -- I don't even ping-lag out
[08:44] <ssstormy> JaZy84, you might also have to add -t iso9660 to that
[08:44] <Vashypooh> egkamp,  I do not understand anything it says to do, but that seems quite feasable for the issue?
[08:45] <nbound> ='(
[08:45] <bretzel> lapducky_
[08:45] <ssstormy> geneo93, hmm if you're using ipv6 I can't help :)  don't know anything about v6
[08:45] <geneo93> ssstormy:  i've been at this for weeks
[08:45] <cafuego_> nick cafuego
[08:45] <ardchoille> how do I get glxgears to print fps to stdout?
[08:45] <drummer87> hi all, i want to separate my / and /home partitions, can i just copy everything but /home to a separate partition and then edit grub's menu.lst?
[08:45] <geneo93> ardchoille:  in terminal
[08:45] <gared> nick myself
[08:46] <cafuego> ardchoille: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:46] <ardchoille> glxgears does not print fps to stdout in gnome-terminal on my Ubuntu 5.10
[08:46] <nbound> trappist, what was the temporary change of gcc command again?
[08:46] <cafuego> ardchoille: yes, that's not a bug.
[08:47] <ardchoille> cafuego: so how do I get it to print fps?
[08:47] <cafuego> ardchoille: If you wonder why, read the parameter I just gave you.
[08:47] <nbound> anyone know the temporary change of gcc command?
[08:47] <j> Hello.  Can anyone recommend a good iso burner for Ubuntu?
[08:47] <bretzel> hum ... Forgot about: -- Is the NVidia accel driver for Drapper ???
[08:47] <nbound> j, gnomebaker will do the job
[08:47] <ssstormy> drummer87, you don't have to edit grub.  edit /etc/fstab
[08:47] <Madpilot_catsit> j, just right click on your ISO in the file manager, and select "Burn To Disc"
[08:48] <dd> Hi please someone help im going insane.  I changed the IP of my ubuntu server... to a new static IP... Now I can ping everying interally but not external.  Can someone please help me
[08:48] <ssstormy> gnomebaker is evil, and so is xcdroast
[08:48] <ssstormy> I need one that can burn iso's- especially dvd isos
[08:48] <geneo93> use gcombust
[08:48] <cafuego> dd: You forgot to update the default gateway IP on the client machines?
[08:48] <ssstormy> gcombust
[08:48] <ssstormy> ok
[08:48] <nbound> can someone tell me how to use a different version of gcc for one command
[08:48] <ardchoille> cafuego: ok, I thought you were messing with me. Thank you for your patience :)
[08:49] <dd> cafuego not its on the ubuntu server... im at the CML and i ping www.google.com or any webiste it will not go, but if i ping internally it works
[08:49] <Madpilot_catsit> nbound, I thought someone already told you? Can't you scroll up and find it again?
[08:49] <geneo93> cafuego:  are you talking to me
[08:49] <cafuego> dd: Then routing is messed up.
[08:49] <dd> how can i fix?
[08:49] <nbound> Madpilot_catsit, no i accidently closed xchat
[08:49] <lapducky_> K-III-B is t3h shiznit!
[08:49] <cafuego> geneo93: what on earth gave you that idea?
[08:50] <dd> cafuego.... If the routing is messed, how can i fix it?
[08:50] <nbound> Madpilot_catsit, before i could write it down ='(
[08:50] <geneo93> well i have some network issues
[08:50] <lapducky_> (and it's bundled with ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu, of course)
[08:50] <adwait> hello all
[08:50] <Madpilot_catsit> nbound, johndarkhorse said "before your command type "CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 COMMAND"
[08:50] <cafuego> dd: You start by checking it, to make sure the default route is correct.
[08:50] <nbound> Madpilot_catsit, thank you ver much :D
[08:50] <lapducky_> ;-)
[08:50] <dd> cafuego... forgive my ignorance... how can i check that?
[08:51] <dd> with the route command?
[08:51] <adwait> dd: yup
[08:51] <dd> I did that
[08:51] <dd> and it looks good
[08:51] <dd> at least i think it does
[08:51] <Madpilot_catsit> lapducky_, pity me, I'm forced to run the Ubuntu LiveCD on a relative's computer (and look after four cats and one Doberman...) :P
[08:51] <adwait> dd: i just came........could u repeat ur problem?
[08:52] <lapducky_> dd, packets are not going through your gateway, if you can ping locally but not the Inet
[08:52] <dd> Ok, i changed my static IP address, now since i have done that all i can do is ping internal ips, noting external
[08:52] <dd> but I am able to SSH in over the internet
[08:52] <j> sorry, I had to get off for a second.  Would it burn the ISO properly if I just right-clicked->Write to disk?
[08:52] <dd> so incomming is working, but not outgoing
[08:52] <dd> when i run route i get this 192.168.3.0     *               255.255.255.0   U     0      0        0 eth0
[08:52] <dd> default         192.168.3.1     0.0.0.0         UG    0      0        0 eth0
[08:52] <Madpilot_catsit> j, it should - it always has for me...
[08:53] <adwait> right.....so as lapducky_ said, something wrong with ur gateway
[08:53] <lapducky_> Madpilot_catsit, maybe if you didn't sit on them they'd be easier to get along with.
[08:53] <albacker> !unrar
[08:53] <ubotu> I don't know, albacker
[08:53] <albacker> !rar
[08:53] <ubotu> rar is, like, a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[08:53] <FlannelKing> what hex editor/ASM viewer do you all use?
[08:53] <adwait> 192.168.1.3 being the router?
[08:53] <dd> adwait
[08:53] <dd> no
[08:53] <dd> 192.168.3.1 is the router
[08:53] <lapducky_> ubotu, tell dd about pastebin
[08:53] <gared>  hi, i try to install the gstreamer,
[08:53] <Madpilot_catsit> lapducky_, har har, spare me that subtle Albertan humour :)
[08:53] <j> thanks for the help.  I'll try that
[08:53] <gared> sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8 mad
[08:53] <dd> lapducky sorry i didnt thing it was that much to paste
[08:54] <adwait> is the router correctly configured?
[08:54] <dd> adwait yes the router looks good
[08:54] <gared> what is the new vision of gstreamer?
[08:54] <adwait> try telnetting into the router and pinging an extenal IP from there.......
[08:54] <dd> all other pc's connected to the router can access the internet with out issue
[08:54] <adwait> aah ok
[08:54] <lapducky_> adwait, three carriage returns is a good rule-of-thumb when the channel is moderately busy.
[08:54] <gared> i can't find the packet through debian packet search, the link is down.
[08:54] <KrulleTrap> dd, did you check /etc/resolv.conf?
[08:54] <lapducky_> err I meant dd, adwait
[08:54] <adwait> aah
[08:55] <dd> its just the ubuntu box that cant hit external IP's
[08:55] <dd> KrulleTrap, nope what should i be looking for?
[08:55] <KrulleTrap> the correct dns server ips
[08:55] <lapducky_> dd would you like to discuss in #ubuntu-offtopic where it's less busy (but many of the same people are there)/
[08:55] <cafuego> Yah, did you mess up the gateway stanza in the interfaces file?
[08:55] <geneo93> dd:  sounds like you have same problem as i do
[08:55] <dd> whooooooo
[08:55] <j> It keeps saying "An error occurred when writting"
[08:55] <dd> KrulleTrap
[08:55] <dd> NICE
[08:56] <dd> its got my old router IP in there :)
[08:56] <KrulleTrap> ok
[08:56] <npfet> anywhere here use cedega?
[08:56] <dd> that the problem?
[08:56] <KrulleTrap> probably, if it's the one on top anyway
[08:56] <nbound> looks like when the system upgraded gcc3.4 went bye byes
[08:56] <npfet> (looking for general opinions of it, not support or anything)
[08:56] <FlannelKing> anyone know of a reasonable hex editor/dissassembler? or am I going to have to brave it on my windows box?
[08:57] <Vashypooh> can someone asist me with this http://ati.cchtml.com/show_bug.cgi?id=198
[08:57] <j> what was the iso burner recommened earlier?
[08:57] <dd> KrulleTrap what do do after fixing it? Reboot?
[08:57] <Vashypooh> What exactly am i supposed to do with what it gives me
[08:57] <adwait> FlannelKing: ghex is a hex editor for gnome
[08:57] <KrulleTrap> dd, restart networking?
[08:58] <dd> oh im gonna be so happy if this works :)
[08:59] <j> would you mind repeating the iso burner you recommended just a second ago?
[09:00] <dd> KrulleTrap do you have PayPal i want to send you money, your fix worked :)
[09:00] <dd> PM me
[09:00] <Madpilot_catsit> j - the right-click in the file manager burner?
[09:00] <KrulleTrap> dd, lol, it's not a 'fix', it's how it's supposed to work :-)
[09:00] <j> it didn't work.  It said something along the lines of "error burning the cd"
[09:00] <FlannelKing> adwait was looking for something with a disassembler view, honestly, but thanks.
[09:01] <adwait> FlannelKing: hehe ok
[09:01] <dd> I know but you had the solution i want to send you some money
[09:01] <dd> for your kindness and help
[09:01] <dd> its only fiar
[09:02] <geneo93> ssstormy:  my resolve.conf has proper info in it
[09:02] <ssstormy> can I trick gcombust into writing to /dev/hd's?  or do I just have to dd it myself?
[09:02] <KrulleTrap> dd tempting
[09:02] <ssstormy> geneo93, just use the network-admin program to make sure
[09:02] <ssstormy> it's really a nice little interface
[09:02] <ssstormy> unless you dont' have gnome installed that is
[09:02] <geneo93> well it wont work in kubuntu
[09:03] <FlannelKing> adwait, now that I think about it, anyone who would start writing something like that, would need a disassembler, or at least a language pack, or whantot, for each arch.  Although I suppose that wouldnt be too hard.  Just trying to hunt a virus, without it touching my windows box.
[09:03] <Locke> how can i empty the trash through terminal?
[09:04] <Eleaf> rm .trash I guess
[09:04] <adwait> FlannelKing: try ibew
[09:04] <adwait> FlannelKing: *biew
[09:04] <geneo93> ssstormy:  it has to do with resolving name
[09:04] <KrulleTrap> dd, if you d HAVE to send money pick some nice charity
[09:04] <adwait> Locke: rm .trash -r
[09:05] <FlannelKing> oh, look at that.  thanks.  shouldve probably searched for disassembler.
[09:05] <adwait> yup
[09:05] <adwait> FlannelKing: apt-cache search <search term>
[09:05] <FlannelKing> adwait, did that.  did hex edit, or hex, etc.  didt even think of searching for disassembler
[09:05] <Locke> adwait: no such file or directory
[09:06] <adwait> Locke: rm .Trash -r
[09:06] <adwait> the 'T' is capital
[09:06] <j> I'm trying gnomebaker, and it looks like it's working
[09:06] <j> thanks for the help anyways
[09:07] <Locke> adwait: i have a file that will not delete in my trash
[09:07] <adwait> Locke: well that command should delete the entire trash directory.....
[09:07] <Locke> it says write protected
[09:07] <adwait> Locke: if you want to remove a particular file there, use "cd .Trash" and then "rm <filename>"
[09:08] <adwait> Locke: then change its permission with "chmod +w <filename>"
[09:08] <geneo93> use sudo though
[09:09] <geneo93> i'm waiting for ideas on this network problem
[09:10] <adwait> geneo93: scolling up.....................u have some problem with name resolution?
[09:11] <geneo93> well in resolve.cong all there is correct and gateway and all the rest is right so i dunno what the hell is wrong
[09:11] <deicidus> hi everyone. i just installed ubuntu, and my first problem is that i can't right click or scroll with two fingers. can anyone help?
[09:12] <cafuego> scroll with two fingers?
[09:13] <deicidus> on a touchpad
[09:13] <adwait> geneo93:  resolv.conf .................ok, its all in the correct formar right? "nameserver <ip address">
[09:13] <geneo93> adwait:  yes
[09:13] <adwait> geneo93: maybe the nameservers are not reachable? try pinging them?
[09:14] <geneo93> no problem doing that
[09:14] <geneo93> i can even login too my router just cant get past it
[09:15] <adwait> geneo93: wierd........beyond the router u can ping with IPs but not with hostnames?
[09:15] <geneo93> no
[09:15] <zane> hi again
[09:16] <geneo93> it works fine with suse and mandriva
[09:16] <cafuego> your '.' is stuck.
[09:16] <adwait> geneo93: maybe the DNS servers configured in you router are not correct? in your /etc/resolv.conf , have you configured the router as the DNS server?
[09:16] <adwait> ko
[09:16] <adwait> *ok
[09:16] <geneo93> adwait:  yes
[09:16] <adwait> cafuego: :p
[09:17] <zane> has anyone here used gparted to repartition a hfs hdd?
[09:17] <ssstormy> hmm mkisofs reports back to me that it cannot make DVD-Video images
[09:17] <ssstormy> why is this?  do I need diff options?
[09:17] <adwait> geneo93: well, the configuration seems to be fine on the linux end.......the problem somehow seems to be with the router
[09:18] <geneo93> no it aint it works fine with everything but ubuntu
[09:19] <cyphase> are there that many people who think that GNOME and KDE should share as much common infrastructure as possible?
[09:19] <ssstormy> or... wait... how do I get mkisofs to build 9.4GB images?  I know we can't burn dual-layer dvd's, but can I make an image that would fit on dual-layer?
[09:20] <sascha__> weis jemand warum ich bei ubuntu 5.10 das men nnicht aktivieren kann ( ist aktivier (zb.entwicklung) erscheint aber nicht auch nicht nach einem neustart) linien einfgen im men geht aber )-:
[09:20] <geneo93> adwait:  whats really strange it works during install then quits after
[09:21] <johndarkhorse> !de
[09:21] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:22] <theneonshadow> ?
[09:22] <sascha__> tja ich bekomme nur keine channel list angezeigt
[09:22] <cyphase> johndarkhorse, i was just asking my cousin how to say that in german :P
[09:22] <theneonshadow> how nerdy
[09:23] <theneonshadow> dude is there an aim verson for Ubuntu linux
[09:23] <cyphase> theneonshadow, use Gaim
[09:23] <sascha__> oh now it works
[09:23] <theneonshadow> alrighty
[09:23] <Psi-Jack> theneonshadow: There's gaim (for GTK+/Gnome), Kopete (for KDE), and many others/
[09:23] <ssstormy> 
[09:23] <theneonshadow> whats Gain
[09:23] <cyphase> http://gaim.sf.net/
[09:23] <geneo93> gaim
[09:23] <cyphase> theneonshadow, it's in the repositories
[09:24] <theneonshadow> ah i see
[09:24] <ssstormy> 
[09:24] <theneonshadow> im new to linux
[09:24] <cyphase> theneonshadow, i should say, it's preinstalled when you install ubuntu
[09:24] <cyphase> in the Internet menu
[09:24] <ssstormy> 
[09:24] <korptix> hi when i type sudo -i and login root why cant i see my files that i have from my username ?
[09:24] <johndarkhorse> ssstormy: english script here please
[09:24] <theneonshadow> well arnt you an smart bot
[09:24] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: Stop that!
[09:24] <ssstormy> johndarkhorse, I was just jesting at the german speakers
[09:24] <cyphase> theneonshadow, do you mean me?
[09:25] <johndarkhorse> korptix: because it starts out in /root not your homedir
[09:25] <malv> what's a good IDE?
[09:25] <korptix> no
[09:25] <cyphase> malv, for that?
[09:25] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: That's not german. That's jibberish.
[09:25] <korptix> root@korptix:~/Desktop# ls
[09:25] <korptix> root@korptix:~/Desktop#
[09:25] <malv> cyphase: in general?
[09:25] <talios> malv, what language?
[09:25] <korptix> well johndarkhorse
[09:25] <ssstormy> Psi-Jack, I know, except it's japanese
[09:25] <malv> talios: c++
[09:25] <cyphase> malv, Anjuta is good
[09:26] <malv> talios: normally I just use vim and screen
[09:26] <Pec1> does anyone know how to fix this?: when i try booting up the ubuntu live cd, i had the boot stop when there was this scsi disk thing; "attached scsi disk sda at scsi 0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0".
[09:26] <deicidus> watcha typin in japanese for?
[09:26] <cyphase> malv, it's in the repositories
[09:26] <ssstormy> never shows up well in IRC clients, or on most computers in general
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: I see.. Hence the reason it's in double-byte characters.
[09:26] <deicidus> shows up fine here
[09:26] <cyphase> ssstormy, fine here
[09:26] <talios> malv, mmm, anjuta, kdevelop (if its still developed?) - eclipse has a good c++ module
[09:26] <e_machinist> Is it safe to remove ubuntu-desktop? And if I do, what will be removed exactly?
[09:26] <ssstormy> well, awsome
[09:26] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Hmm, what IRC client you using?
[09:26] <korptix> mm
[09:26] <korptix> hi when i type sudo -i and login root why cant i see my files that i have from my username ?
[09:26] <ssstormy> you guys must not have windows
[09:26] <korptix> .....
[09:26] <ssstormy> oops
[09:26] <ssstormy> oh yeah
[09:26] <ssstormy> XD that's why it's working
[09:26] <cyphase> e_machinist. it's safe, nothing will be removed excpet itself
[09:26] <theneonshadow> i dont like bots
[09:27] <e_machinist> cyphase: oh, I see. cool.
[09:27] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, XChat
[09:27] <ssstormy> korptix, cause you just logged in as root.  who'se home is /root
[09:27] <cyphase> except*
[09:27] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Hmm interesting.
[09:27] <deicidus> ssstormy: how did you enable japanese like that?
[09:27] <ssstormy> deicidus, well I installed uim (cause scim wasn't working for me)
[09:27] <ssstormy> and te fonts
[09:27] <korptix> ssstormy: i went to desktop and my files arnt there
[09:27] <ssstormy> and the desktop support for good measure
[09:27] <karl_> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:27] <deicidus> ssstormy: cool thanks
[09:27] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, i'm using 2.6.0 from backports
[09:28] <ssstormy> just search like "ja" in synaptic for the compat packages
[09:28] <cyphase> 2.4.4 is the usual one
[09:28] <korptix> ..
[09:28] <ssstormy> deicidus, also make sure to install the uim toolbar thingy, and use that to config.  right click on toolbar to add applets
[09:28] <sagarp> er how can i downgrade from dapper back to breezy :S
[09:28] <ssstormy> (after they've been installed)
[09:28] <theneonshadow> how do i register an account on gaim
[09:28] <ssstormy> theneonshadow, you don't
[09:29] <johndarkhorse> sagarp: back up your homedir and reinstall
[09:29] <ssstormy> use Yahoo! or AIM or anything you want
[09:29] <sagarp> =/
[09:29] <ssstormy> or you mean how to login/
[09:29] <ssstormy> ?
[09:29] <deicidus> ssstormy, cool, ill do that right now. i only just got this system running and i wanted to do it eventually
[09:29] <nbound> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[09:30] <ssstormy> deicidus, I warn you the compat files for open office are huge, and the ja docs are big too
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonsadow, only Jabber registration is supported in Gaim
[09:30] <talios> sagarp, change yoyr sources.list and manually apt-get install old packages I guess? :) :(
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow*
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow, everything else has to be done through the web interface
[09:30] <theneonshadow> whats the user name and password it askes for in gaim?
[09:30] <theneonshadow> what do i enter
[09:30] <talios> hows dapper looking currently?  I've been thinking of switching
[09:30] <sagarp> wow that's the epitome of tedious lol
[09:30] <cyphase> theneonshadow, your user name and password for the network
[09:30] <theneonshadow> oh, makes sence
[09:31] <sagarp> i'm having problems getting the kbd/mouse to work with X11, apparently it cant find the drivers
[09:31] <talios> sagarp, theres always format-reinstall ;p
[09:31] <sagarp> =\
[09:32] <nbound> my x module and my kernel module for nvidia are 2 different versions and x wont start, PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ANYONE!?!?!?!?!
[09:32] <cyphase> Does anyone else think that GNOME and KDE should share as much common infrastructure as possible?
[09:32] <ssstormy> deicidus, you also have to restart X for the changes in language stuff to take effect
[09:32] <sagarp> nbound, remove linux-restricted-modules or somethign liek that...it has the older nvidia module in it
[09:32] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: HECK NO. Gnome has gone a bad path, and I think Gnome's days should end.
[09:32] <sagarp> nbound: then restart
[09:33] <nbound> sagarp: do you know which restricted one, afaik theres several
[09:33] <theneonshadow> holy cow
[09:33] <deicidus> ssstormy, ok ill give it a try. my airport extreme problem can wait a minute more...
[09:33] <sagarp> nbound, wel it should just be linux-restricted-modules-`uname -r`
[09:33] <ssstormy> don't let me rush you
[09:34] <nbound> sagarp, thanx
[09:35] <ejofee> W: Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[09:35] <ejofee>   403 Forbidden
[09:35] <ejofee> any idea why?
[09:35] <cyphase> Psi-Jack, then imagine they were both great desktops
[09:35] <Psi-Jack> cyphase: Sorry. The way Gnome has gone, I can't do that anymore. 2-3 years ago, sure. But today? Not at all.
[09:36] <ssstormy> ejofee, you're not allowed to read that file
[09:36] <ssstormy> Psi-Jack, and where has it gone?
[09:36] <cyphase> hmm
[09:36] <ejofee> ssstormy: i can see that, but... why?
[09:36] <ejofee> ssstormy: and what do i do?
[09:36] <ssstormy> ejofee, nothing really.  Find a different mirror.
[09:37] <Psi-Jack> ssstormy: To "ease of use" through "obscurity". Hiding functionality into hidden resources, rather than making them fully available. It's wrong, uncalled for, and I don't see how anyone could like it.
[09:37] <ejofee> ssstormy: this is the only mirror! :(
[09:38] <ejofee> ssstormy: (thank you, anyway)
[09:39] <korptix> alot of things at www.rsh.srv.ro linux basied
[09:39] <korptix> u think they can tech me linux ?
[09:41] <Mestapheles> where's sses?  I think you guys owe him an apology.
[09:41] <Mestapheles> night all
[09:41] <Psi-Jack> Hmm, what was that about?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> What media player do people find best for dealing with a large library of music (a la iTunes and RhythmBox)?
[09:42] <KrulleTrap> 554 apologies? wow
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I kinda like Kaffiene, myself.
[09:42] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: And amaroK for music.
[09:43] <dell500> anyone know the correct ipod setting in fstab for a video?
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> Did Darth just advertise downloading a Windows app here??
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> dell500: You just mount the iPod device itself.
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Will check those out, Psi-Jack.
[09:44] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: DathDevilous must've been using Trillian for his IRC client.
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Ah, that could do it.
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> lol
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: I use Kaffeine, with the xine engine, for video. It can even re-broadcast the feed. I haven't played with that feature yet. Going to soon. :)
[09:45] <dell500> Psi-Jack: I know, but I think there is a certain way of mounting it with certain permissions and options.
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> Psi-Jack: what did trillian do that makes that so obvious?
[09:45] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: Your quit message:  [02:43]  * DarthDevilous (n=DarthDev@186.249.62.81.cust.bluewin.ch) Quit ("Trillian (http://www.ceruleanstudios.com")
[09:45] <ejofee> how do i find an alternative mirror for http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras ?
[09:45] <DarthDevilous> ah
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, I was a little confused, as Trillian doesn't run on Linux...
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: That's okay. I'm using mIRC right now, while I'm finishing the last of my windows backups I needed to do before wiping this HDD. :)
[09:46] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Well, if he's anything like me, he could have multiple computers as well. You should see my media-server box.
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Oh, I don't doubt that.  My family has twice as many computers as people, and two of them dual-boot Ubuntu-Windows.
[09:48] <DarthDevilous> tonyyarusso: I'm a long-time win user trying to make the first step to linux... (ubuntu live cd)
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Aaah.  Very cool.  (I was where you are in August, when my disks came from ShipIt.)
[09:49] <omerix> i have installed wine but it doesn't work
[09:50] <omerix> and it also gives no error
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Being the computer-savvy person, I did many a recovery and reinstallation on Windows machines for my family and friends, so when I got my own computer for university, I started looking into Linux, as an alternative, and as a "hey, that sounds sort of interesting..." thing.
[09:50] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Heh. In my house, I have 7 towers, a laptop, a TabletPC, a Casiopeia PocketPC, a RAID tower, and 4 4U rackmounts. :)
[09:50] <omerix> can you help me
[09:51] <DarthDevilous> o.O @ Psi-Jack
[09:52] <omerix> ?
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, 6 laptops, 4 desktops.
[09:53] <Psi-Jack> My 4 4U rackmounts, plus the media-server tower, hook up to the RAID array as a SAN, because of the 2TB storage with RAID-5. The media-server itself is a Dual AMD64 with 2gb RAM, SLIx2 Nvidia video, 4xPCI-X TV Tuners, and 2xGigabit LAN.
[09:53] <DarthDevilous> if i wanna burn a bootable cd do i just burn the .iso normally or do i have to do something special to make it bootable?
[09:54] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: What ISO?
[09:54] <DarthDevilous> ubuntu live iso
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, When I did it, "burn from iso" was fine without any additional configuration.
[09:54] <Psi-Jack> DarthDevilous: It's already bootable.
[09:54] <DarthDevilous> k thx
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, Wait, I thought you were running a live cd already?
[09:55] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: My media-server, actually can record up to 4 TV shows at the same time, in perfect quality, and stream them over the network using live stream, or VOD. :)
[09:55] <cyphase> does anyone know of any plans to merge GnomeMeeting and Gaim?
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> Psi-Jack, Interesting...  Never gotten into that sort of thing, but it sounds cool.
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, Wouldn't their project pages mention if it there were?
[09:56] <ejofee> how do i find an alternative mirror for http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras ?
[09:56] <Psi-Jack> tonyyarusso: Yeah. It's nice stuff. I don't even own a regular TV anymore. I have one HDTV, without a tuner, and it itself is hooked up through the LAN and is literally streamed directly to, instead of using a TV tuner. :)
[09:56] <johndarkhorse> ejofee: what are you looking for?
[09:57] <ejofee> johndarkhorse: w32codecs
[10:00] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell ejofee about restricted
[10:00] <cyphase> is there a way to have nautilus arange desktop icons on the right side?
[10:03] <Tarzipan> hi
[10:03] <npfet> hi
[10:04] <omerix> i have installed wine but it doesn't work
[10:04] <DarkFolken> hi
[10:04] <omerix> and it also gives no error
[10:04] <omerix> can you help me
[10:05] <johndarkhorse> omerix: join #winehq
[10:05] <omerix> ok
[10:09] <Psi-Jack> OH MY GOD!
[10:10] <Psi-Jack> Sorry... I was just reading one of the latest MS Security Updates made available recently. Embedded Fonts in websites and email are now a vulnerability in Windows 98 and up.
[10:11] <EZgun> yeow!
[10:12] <s_spiff{AWAY}> amazing how hackers find out the smallest of the loop holes!
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> Heh yeah.
[10:13] <Psi-Jack> Fricken fonts of all things. First it was graphics, ala, the infamous WMF one. Now fonts!
[10:13] <Hentai^XP> Psi-Jack link?
[10:14] <Psi-Jack> Hentai^XP: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/MS06-002.mspx
[10:14] <josesanch> hello
[10:15] <SodomizedPeanut> Hi. I'm having trouble installing flashplayer-mozilla. I've enabled all the repositories but it's still not in there.
[10:15] <josesanch> I uploaded a package to revu, but don't appears in http://revu.tauware.de/
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: It's in the multiverse repository.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> Psi-Jack, as far as I know, I've enabled the multiverse repository.
[10:16] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: In your sources.list, the ones that have universe in them, ... You did?
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> Yep.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> I've uncommented them all.
[10:16] <SodomizedPeanut> And reloaded.
[10:17] <Psi-Jack> SodomizedPeanut: Anyway, I don't think you have. In the sources.list, their's two entries that have universe, you need to make them have univers multiverse
[10:17] <Psi-Jack> That'll get BOTH universe, and multiverse. multiverse is not in stock sources.list, at all.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> Ah.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> That's strange. I thought it was.
[10:18] <SodomizedPeanut> Sorry. Thanks for your help.
[10:18] <DarthDevilous> :(( ubuntu live failed at the step "detect and mount cd-rom"...
[10:20] <EZgun> There's an Ubuntu Live CD?!
[10:20] <DarthDevilous> lol yep
[10:21] <EZgun> That sucks that it doesn't work for you...
[10:21] <EZgun> Sorry I can't help, I'm a n00b.
[10:21] <DarthDevilous> ^^ me too
[10:21] <EZgun> Aye, I just configured my monitor and mouse settings on xorg.conf :D
[10:22] <EZgun> Although my <forward> and <back> buttons still only work in Firefox...
[10:23] <DarthDevilous> hmm... could the IDE/RAID controller be the problem?
[10:23] <EZgun> I dunno... actually I think it's just something simple I'm missing.
[10:23] <DarthDevilous> i mean on mine :P
[10:23] <EZgun> ohhhh!
[10:24] <EZgun> can you install the full desktop on your comp?
[10:24] <DarthDevilous> havn't tried
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> i wanted to see whether it worked with the live cd first :P
[10:25] <EZgun> do you have your CD / hard drive(s) on cable select?
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> probably not
[10:25] <DarthDevilous> try to avoid putting stuff on cable select..
[10:26] <EZgun> ah, that's cool. cause i hear a lot of things go 'tarded with cable select
[10:27] <bolo> hello
[10:27] <Jochem> does somebody use mercury als IM, because I have a couple of questions about it
[10:27] <DarthDevilous> thing is if ubuntu doesn't support my controller then i can forget full install since both HDs are also on that controller :(
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> what a cool name for an IM client "maim" heh
[10:28] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline
[10:28] <bolo> "
[10:30] <boris1284> hi
[10:30] <Irvine> which compilers good?
[10:31] <bolo> hello
[10:32] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline" help please.. Y_Y
[10:32] <ejofee> my firefox crashes a lot!
[10:32] <ejofee> i have no idea why
[10:32] <bolo> ejofee same here
[10:32] <ejofee> it seems it crashes especially on sites with adds
[10:33] <ejofee> is it because of some broken filtering technology it uses?
[10:34] <microjackson> good morning :)
[10:35] <benplaut> right now i'm learning shell scripting, but is it worthwhile skipping up to python, for a little 'room to grow'?
[10:35] <Jochem> does somebody know how to get flashing taskbars with mercury, please ?
[10:36] <Irvine> how to open gcc?
[10:36] <Tomcat_> benplaut: With Python you can do more, but you still need shell scripting.
[10:36] <johndarkhorse> benplaut: all knowledge is good to have
[10:36] <benplaut> Tomcat_: so learn one, then the other
[10:36] <CarinArr> benplaut, it depends on what you want to do as well
[10:36] <KrulleTrap> sometimes ashell is all you'll have
[10:36] <benplaut> johndarkhorse: why'dya think i'm using linux? :P
[10:36] <Irvine> Tomcat_:How to open python?
[10:37] <Tomcat_> benplaut: I only know Python, not much shell scripting... and I often miss it, because python scripts are usually too complicated to write within a few minutes.
[10:37] <benplaut> hmm
[10:37] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just type "python" in the shell.
[10:37] <benplaut> there's a serious flaw in bash scripting...
[10:37] <CarinArr> lol m0bus
[10:37] <CarinArr> er wrong window
[10:38] <benplaut> `command --arguments` are extremely hard to configure!!
[10:38] <Irvine> thx
[10:38] <bolo> hello, im having this error when installing/uninstall "files list file for package `libnewt0.51' is missing final newline" help please.. Y_Y
[10:39] <Irvine> Tomcat_:what is gcc?
[10:39] <CarinArr> bolo, did you get the package through the package manager or did you download it someplace else
[10:39] <KrulleTrap> gnu c compiler
[10:39] <microjackson> benplaut, i think that studying python could help speed up the learning :)  just remember, if you run into a problem that you cant solve after 48 hours, skip to thee next one
[10:40] <bolo> CarinArr, downloaded somewhere else...
[10:40] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc is the GNU C and C++ compiler
[10:40] <benplaut> heh
[10:40] <CarinArr> bolo, it's a .deb?
[10:40] <bolo> yes
[10:41] <bolo> I also tried this "sudo apt-get install checkinstall
[10:41] <bolo> " but I get the same error
[10:41] <menko> hi, is there a repo that contains firefox 1.5?
[10:41] <Irvine> Tomcat_:which compilers is good?
[10:41] <johndarkhorse> menko: no there is not
[10:42] <menko> is there a firefox 1.5 deb package anywhere then?
[10:42] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc is a good one, as most open source software uses it and it's totally open.
[10:42] <Tomcat_> !firefox1.5
[10:42] <bolo> @menko, I think its in dapper repo?
[10:42] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:42] <CarinArr> bolo, to me it sounds as though the package is corrupted.. i'm hardly an expert though
[10:42] <Irvine> Tomcat_:How to open gcc?
[10:42] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just type "gcc" in the shell
[10:42] <CarinArr> bolo, you can't find the package mirrored anywhere?
[10:43] <bolo> I really dont know wat happend
[10:43] <microjackson> ive just started looking at ubuntu, is it based off of suse or debian or bsd?
[10:43] <menko> !firefox1.5
[10:43] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:43] <KrulleTrap> debian
[10:43] <Irvine> Tomcat_: gcc: no input files
[10:43] <microjackson> thank you :)
[10:43] <microjackson> gcc -o
[10:43] <KrulleTrap> np
[10:44] <bolo> @CarinArr: I used the .deb before and it worked fine
[10:44] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Well, yes, you need to give it some C or C++ file to compile usually.
[10:44] <Irvine> Tomcat_: how?
[10:45] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc <infile>
[10:45] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example
[10:45] <Tomcat_> Irvine: gcc myprogram.c
[10:45] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs
[10:46] <microjackson> hmm
[10:46] <Tomcat_> Irvine: There are many out there... just search for some open source program on Google, download the source... then you can compile it.
[10:47] <microjackson> which would be better?  installing ubuntu from my live cd or downloading the actual install disk?
[10:47] <Tomcat_> Irvine: You don't really make the impression that you're ready for working with the shell... maybe you want to read a tutorial or book first?
[10:47] <Tomcat_> microjackson: Downloading the install disk
[10:47] <Irvine> yes
[10:47] <microjackson> no way, jump in man
[10:47] <sethk> microjackson, install disk.  that's why it's called "install disk"
[10:47] <microjackson> heh
[10:47] <Irvine> i am newbie
[10:47] <microjackson> hehe
[10:47] <microjackson> thats why its called an install disk???
[10:48] <ejofee> is there any version of firefox which includes its extensions all packed together? or at least a metapackage with firefox extensions?
[10:48] <Tomcat_> ejofee: I don't think so.
[10:49] <ejofee> Tomcat_: neither?
[10:49] <ejofee> Tomcat_: (of the two)
[10:49] <sethk> ejofee, I don't think so.  That division between "supplied by mozilla" and "supplied by other than mozilla" is more or less insisted upon by mozilla
[10:49] <KrulleTrap> ejofee, not for the pretend os either :-)
[10:49] <sethk> microjackson, yes.  If you have a disk called "install", and you want to install, it makes sense to use the disk called "install"
[10:49] <ejofee> KrulleTrap: what do you mean? are there such packages for other oses?
[10:49] <Tomcat_> ejofee: So far I haven't seen any firefox extension in the package repos.
[10:50] <KrulleTrap> ejofee, not that i know of
[10:50] <microjackson> ok,  another stupid question.  what chmod command do i use to turn a file into an executable?
[10:50] <sethk> microjackson, chmod +x fille
[10:50] <sethk> microjackson, for other than the owner, you can do:   chmod a+x file
[10:50] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs that written in gcc
[10:51] <sethk> microjackson, the a means everyone.  or,  u+x, g+x, o+x (user, group, other)
[10:51] <Tomcat_> Irvine: The Linux kernel, gnucash, xchat, gaim, you name it... almost anything on Linux is written using gcc.
[10:52] <Irvine> Tomcat_: example of programs that written in gcc
[10:52] <Irvine> Tomcat_:gcc and python which is easier to learn?
[10:52] <Tomcat_> Irvine: python
[10:52] <sethk> Irvine, python, definitely
[10:52] <microjackson> where were you guys when i needed help in unix classes in college  ;)
[10:53] <Set> playing in the kindergarden?
[10:53] <Tomcat_> microjackson: Using Windows :D
[10:53] <sethk> Irvine, there are other good languages available as well.  Ruby, haskell are my favorites
[10:53] <KrulleTrap> microjackson, sitting next to you, paying attention? :-p
[10:53] <microjackson> gcc can be c or c++ and c is more usefull with unix type OS's
[10:53] <Set> lol
[10:53] <microjackson> hehe
[10:53] <microjackson> ive never had a windows box
[10:53] <Irvine> what is nano?
[10:53] <Set> real small
[10:53] <microjackson> c64 - apple 2gs - mac
[10:53] <Tomcat_> Irvine: nano is an easy-to-use editor for Linux
[10:54] <Set> or one of Creative's mp3 players
[10:54] <sethk> Irvine, very basic, dumb sort of editor.  It uses wordstar commands.  Nobody under 50 remembers wordstar, but there you go.
[10:54] <Set> depending on your interests
[10:54] <johndarkhorse> sethk: do you not smell a troll?
[10:54] <Set> I'm no troll. Just bored. Sorry
[10:55] <microjackson> whatever man, i saw you hiding beneath that bridge
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> Set: do the guilty reveal themselves? lol
[10:55] <Set> I like to put out the fire before it burns down my house :)
[10:55] <sethk> johndarkhorse, 4:55 AM, my smeller is tired.
[10:56] <Tomcat_> sethk: haskell looks interesting, but can you do anything modern with it? (GUI, Networking, XML)
[10:56] <microjackson> hehe, drink some coffee and smell some salts
[10:56] <Irvine> Tomcat_: do u like programming?
[10:56] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Yes, but I hardly do any programming lately. :\
[10:57] <Irvine> Tomcat_: how to download things by using wget?
[10:57] <microjackson> i like jmax programming
[10:57] <johndarkhorse> Irvine: the google search engine will answer most all of the questions you've asked here
[10:57] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Just do "wget <URL>" and it will download the URL.
[10:58] <Tomcat_> Is there any good shell tutorial or basic Linux tutorial for Irvine? I did a search but couldn't find something decent...
[10:58] <sethk> Tomcat_, yes, I wrote some fairly sophisticated network test programs with it yesterday
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Irvine about cli
[10:59] <Tomcat_> Thanks johndarkhorse.
[11:01] <Irvine> got it
[11:01] <microjackson> sethk, what situation inspired you to write your own tests?
[11:01] <linuxboy> has anybody managed to install thunderbird 1.5 on ubuntu?
[11:02] <sethk> microjackson, they run on a new embedded system that has no existing software
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> linuxboy: you may be able to follow this howto
[11:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell linuxboy about firefox1.5
[11:03] <linuxboy> johndarkhorse: thanks. But I know about that.
[11:04] <EZgun> Hey guys. I have a really dumb question.
[11:04] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, TB1.5 is out??
[11:04] <Irvine> my download speed low
[11:04] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: yes
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, Whoa, when was that?
[11:05] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: nafc
[11:05] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: earlier this week
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, sorry, you've found an abbreviation I don't know...
[11:05] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Ah, so I'm not that out of it.  Good.
[11:06] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: i have no idea
[11:06] <Irvine> Tomcat_: is there any method to increase download speed?
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, (If you know) Should I do basically the same thing for TB1.5 as FF, as on the ff1.5 wiki?
[11:07] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[11:07] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: i would. they are both similar
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, Sweet.  johndarkhorse: "This is loosely based on/inspired by the FirefoxNewVersion How-To".
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> I'll probably give it a little while though, so the extensions can catch up.
[11:08] <jesper> How do I attach a patch to a bug in Malone? (I'm probably just blind)
[11:08] <linuxboy> tonyyarusso: thats what I was thinking
[11:08] <wakkah> Good morning! I'd like to mount an NFS share without using a shell but "Places" / "Connect to Server..." only offers SSH, FTP, HTTP, samba and so on.. any Ideas?
[11:09] <Tomcat_> Irvine: Sure, but that requires quite some knowledge about networks... which I don't have.
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> Irvine : doubt it
[11:10] <lsuactiafner> Irvine : most networks are configured for maximum performance
[11:10] <microjackson> sethk, when you say it uses no software, do you mean that it computes strictly upon layout of electronic components
[11:10] <ubuntu-new> hi does ubuntu have voIP
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> linuxboy, (Loving the extensions concept for FF/TB WAY too much...)
[11:11] <Marlun> if I want to be able to do some c++ programming, is it build-essential I need to compile my code?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, I think yes.  Don't remember the program name though.  (vophone or something like that?)
[11:12] <microjackson> marlun, uhh
[11:12] <ubuntu-new> how do i install it
[11:12] <microjackson> heh
[11:12] <DarthDevilous> marlun: c++ is not a scipting language, you have to compile it so that it does anything
[11:13] <microjackson> if you are doing c++ programming, you require a compiler and linker :)
[11:13] <Marlun> DarkFolken: what? thats why I asked if it would allow me to compile.
[11:13] <Marlun> Well, what do I need then? =P
[11:13] <ubuntu-new> how do i install it voip
[11:14] <DarthDevilous> gcc is gnu c++ compiler, if thats your question :P
[11:14] <Marlun> but isn't gcc installed with "build-essential" ?
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, apt-cache search voip told me gnomemeeting is for that too, which is installed by default.
[11:14] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: gcc-4.0 is default
[11:15] <Marlun> johndarkhorse: on a server installation?
[11:15] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: if you install build-essential, it will include gcc-4.0
[11:15] <ubuntu-new> where is that on my gnome desktop
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Applications > Internet > Gnome Desktop.
[11:16] <Marlun> johndarkhorse: thank you, thats what I was asking for from the beginning :P maybe my question was a little badly formated.
[11:16] <DarthDevilous> hmm well ubuntu live won't work on my PC but it will on my laptop :(
[11:16] <microjackson> ok, well i guess i should restart and do a full installation now.  nice meeting y'all
[11:16] <ubuntu-new> do i need to have webcam or mic
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, A mic at least, yeah.
[11:17] <microjackson> ubantu is pretty much the only clean live disk for ppc processers
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Or somehow connect a phone handset through to the computer as the mic, but I don't know how that would work.
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> Actually, thats a good question: Can you use a phone as your mic if you don't own another microphone?
[11:18] <ubuntu-new> but can i connect to diffrent voip servers with that gnomemeeting
[11:18] <microjackson> just build a beige box and have long wires leading to your neighbors box
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu-new, Run it and see.  Never tried it myself.
[11:20] <daaaman64> would turing of acpi for install be bad?
[11:20] <cyphase> did anyone in the western US see the sapsule land?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> What's that microjackson?
[11:20] <boxemall> Hallo. I got one BIG Problem. I just did a clean install of Ubuntu 5.10 (no beta)
[11:20] <cyphase> capsule* pass by*
[11:20] <cyphase> lol
[11:20] <boxemall> but i do not have any sound on left channel
[11:20] <sethk> ubuntu-new, I've installed skype, which does voip.  Getting mixed results, some good, some not
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, What capsule is this?
[11:21] <deicidus> hey quick question: i want to install dapper flight 3 when it comes out over my breezy install. i dont have to reformat or anything, do i? what's the procedure for the upgrade?
[11:21] <boxemall> tryed to change settings in mixer but no effect
[11:21] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, Stardust
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Add the cd to your apt sources and dist-upgrade.
[11:21] <boxemall> i don't have "new" hardware so i don't understand where the Problem is.
[11:22] <ruschi> Iguys, I got GLX problems with my nvidia GeForce4 Ti: driver is "nvidia" Xorg.log says extensions are loaded, but glxgears eats CPU like crazy
[11:22] <ruschi> Any idea?
[11:22] <boxemall> i have WinXP on the same machine which works without any Problem
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, No idea.  Must've missed that in the news.  (From MN, currently in ON.)
[11:22] <CarinArr> ruschi, what drivers are you using?
[11:22] <boxemall> can anyone HELP???
[11:22] <ruschi> nvidia restricted
[11:22] <ubuntu-new> is it difficult to install the mic
[11:23] <ubuntu-new> on ubuntu
[11:23] <DarthDevilous> how should i partition a 14GB harddisk to install ubuntu on?
[11:23] <ubuntu-new> u can partion when u install it it will ask u
[11:23] <DarthDevilous> i mean how much for each parition
[11:23] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:24] <ubuntu-new> u can choose automatically it fixes by himself
[11:24] <CarinArr> ruschi, i.e. you're using the ubuntu packaged nvidia drivers?
[11:24] <ruschi> glxinfo even says "server glx vendor string: NVIDIA Corporation"
[11:24] <DarthDevilous> ah cool
[11:24] <CarinArr> ruschi, yeah.. but what version are the drivers
[11:24] <ruschi> yes and a custom kernel that always wworked
[11:24] <CarinArr> 7667?
[11:24] <ruschi> 7667
[11:24] <ruschi> exactly
[11:24] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:24] <CarinArr> the official nvidia drivers are up to 8xxx now
[11:24] <ruschi> ok
[11:24] <CarinArr> i had to upgrade to those for some of the software i use to work properly
[11:25] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:25] <CarinArr> i dunno if that'd solve your problem but it might be worth a try
[11:25] <ruschi> but it used to work - where do I get 8xx drivers
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> DarthDevilous, unless you want to dual-boot.
[11:25] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, thanks for the keyword (dist-upgrade). i see now. ill do a backup in case it doesnt go smoothly.
[11:25] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:25] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Good plan.
[11:26] <CarinArr> ruschi, check the nvidia howto thread on ubuntuforums.org, it might list your problem somewhere.. if you decide to install the latest drivers there are a few steps you have to take before so they don't get corrupted by the drivers you have atm, so read the first post in that thread carefully
[11:26] <Stork> what happens if i put a sudo <command> at the end of my /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh ?
[11:26] <ruschi> thanks
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, (If you have the space, I've also heard of people making another partition for their development release installs.)
[11:26] <microjackson> tony, sorry stepped outside for a smoke.  im referring to the beige box as in the telephone line mans huge red phones with alligator clips hanging on their belts.  very easy to build
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Hey, maybe that's what I can do when I finally break down and just delete Windows...
[11:27] <bimberi> Stork: no need, bootmisc.sh runs as root
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> microjackson, Nice.
[11:27] <boxemall> does anyone have any idea what could cause this problem (mono sound) or anything that couls solve it???
[11:27] <Stork> bimberi, well if i wanted it to run a command, eg 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx' where would i put that in bootmisc.sh ?
[11:27] <microjackson> ive surprised myself and found that i am more productive with linux than mac os 9
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> microjackson, Can I do it with my regular phone on my desk, plugging into the modem port?
[11:28] <microjackson> boxemall
[11:28] <Davey|Work> microjackson: os9 was an abomination, it doesn't surprise me :)
[11:28] <microjackson> i can probably help you out, but i must log off now.  it is probably a physical layer type problem
[11:28] <tonyyarusso> Basically forwarding input to the modem to the microphone input.
[11:28] <microjackson> heh
[11:28] <boxemall> yes?
[11:28] <snap> hi all. I have two problems, first, wpa_supplicant not compile in ubuntu x64, second, Ati sound card regonized by system, but no sound
[11:28] <Stork> bimberi, well if i wanted it to run a command, eg 'dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx' where would i put that in bootmisc.sh ?
[11:28] <microjackson> i guess i was just shaped into appreciationg os 7 -9
[11:29] <aerocommander> hallo
[11:29] <boxemall> hmm doea anyone els know how to solve this
[11:29] <bimberi> Stork: (no need to repeat, give people a chance to consider their reply) you need to run that at every boot? you don't want to run anything that requires user interaction there
[11:29] <boxemall> i don't even know what a "phisical layer" is!
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> I'd also like to know how to forward the modem input and output to the sound card for speaker output, but I'm told that can't be done without opening the computer.
[11:30] <nbound> anyone know how to install nvidia drivers from nvidia without screwing up X
[11:30] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, nope, im gonna live on dapper, cause my airport express won't work with breezy. i hope its stable enough--from what ive read it should be ok
[11:30] <Stork> bimberi, i have this wierd unexplainable problem, whewnever i boot up most things give me a "Segmentation fault". this can be fixed by doing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure nvidia-glx' and restarting xserver. i figure if i make it run automatically at boot i wont have to do it and it will save me time
[11:30] <microjackson> boxemall, heh, people like to use confusing terms to seem smart ;)  i just mean that you should try a different cable / jack to see if it fixes the problem
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Probably.  (What's airport express?)
[11:31] <boxemall> no it is no problem of that kind
[11:31] <boxemall> i use same system with Win XP and have no such problem
[11:31] <Vashypooh> Can anyone help me configure my mouse? lol
[11:31] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, the wireless network card in an apple ibook (and other macs)
[11:31] <nbound> stork do "sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable"
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, What I've heard is that F2 has bugs, but nothing serious.  Most people have recommended not switching unless you have a reason, but I guess there's your reason.
[11:31] <boxemall> with an earlier version of ubuntu i did had not such problems
[11:31] <Vashypooh> I followed the guide on ubuntu's wiki but lmao
[11:32] <Vashypooh> my mouse wheel does what my side buttons should do
[11:32] <Stork> nbound, no such command
[11:32] <nbound> stork do "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable" <-try that
[11:32] <microjackson> deicidus, hmm, thats weird,  my normal airport pcmcia card ( inside the g3 pismo book) works great
[11:32] <Stork> nbound, ok, i'll try restarting now?
[11:32] <nbound> yeah
[11:33] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, yep. since i installed ubuntu earlier today, i love it so much that i really dont want to go back to mac os x just for the networking. but i love my wireless networking too :)
[11:33] <microjackson> hehe
[11:33] <Vashypooh> Can someone help me figure out my mouse problems? ;x
[11:33] <deicidus> microjackson, i think i read that non-extreme airport works, but airport extreme doesnt
[11:33] <microjackson> airsnort :)
[11:33] <microjackson> gnight
[11:34] <deicidus> i too have a mouse problem so you might get double points!
[11:34] <C-O-L-T> does exist a shutdown expert for linux, I mean I can set my computer to turn on in the morning and play a music or something
[11:34] <tonyyarusso> Now that's a totally different thing!  (airsnort)
[11:34] <deicidus> ^_^
[11:34] <Vashypooh> lol whats your problem Deicidus
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> C-O-L-T, Turning on is a BIOS thing, not OS.  I can tell you how to play music on startup though.
[11:35] <Stork> nbound, nope, same problems
[11:35] <deicidus> vashypooh, well i have an apple touchpad with one button. id like to be able to scroll using two fingers, but it doesnt seem to want to do that. id also like to be able to touch two fingers on the pad then click to emulate a right-click.
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> I have startup in my BIOS settings too, but it doesn't seem to work.  (Thinkpad)
[11:35] <deicidus> vashypooh, i could do both of these things in os x through a third-party program (although the scrolling is also an apple featuare)
[11:36] <C-O-L-T> tonyyarusso: for windows there is a shutdown expert program. You can set in it to turn your computer on download files, play a music or even a film
[11:36] <nbound> Stork, hmmm sounds weird
[11:36] <Vashypooh> hmmm
[11:36] <Stork> nbound, that's what everyone else says :p
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> C-O-L-T, Really?  Sounds odd.  Where is that program from?
[11:37] <nbound> Stork, possibly just try reinstalling ubuntu
[11:37] <Stork> nbound, nah, too much effort :p i'll live with my problems
[11:37] <deicidus> vashypooh, oh and i recently discovered that f12 works as a right-click, so i can at least do that now
[11:38] <Vashypooh> hmm
[11:38] <Vashypooh> maybe this can help? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticsTouchpadHowto?highlight=%28Touchpad%29
[11:38] <nbound> Stork, lol
[11:38] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, Now that's just messed.
[11:38] <C-O-L-T> tonyyarusso: That program can do a lot of things, and it does not depend on your bios settings. Shutdown Expert for Windows
[11:38] <nbound> anyone got the nvidia 8178's goin on breezy x86?????
[11:39] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, what is?
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> deicidus, F12 for right-click.
[11:40] <deicidus> tonyyarusso, yeah i dont know why, i found it by accident trying to eject a cd. glad i did though, now i can right click.
[11:40] <Vashypooh> can someone help me with my mouse buttons? the 2 side buttons act as mouse wheel, the mouse wheel like sides
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> Vashypooh, try other numbers and see what happens?
[11:40] <nbound> Vashypooh, that almost sounds like fun =P
[11:41] <Trackilizer> !grub
[11:41] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:41] <Vashypooh> lol its f'n annoying lmao
[11:41] <Vashypooh> i followed the guide on the wiki
[11:41] <Jochem> does someone uses mercury ? because I have a couple of questions about it !
[11:41] <sint_> hey, got a new 64bit amd and wonder about installing a 64bit ubuntu. is it stable?
[11:41] <deicidus> vashypooh, thanks for the link, that looks like it might help
[11:42] <Vashypooh> Hope so, I really dont know much about Linux, just kinda pointing to places lol
[11:42] <lsuactiafner> sint_ : very stable
[11:43] <deicidus> vashypooh, yeah same here, although it seems as if im quickly becoming the expert in the field of mac-ubuntu compatibility
[11:43] <Vashypooh> lol
[11:43] <deicidus> vashypooh, :P
[11:43] <sint_> lsuactiafner: hm, ok let me try it :)
[11:43] <sophtpaw> someone please remind me: for tar.gz file is the command - tar cvzf <name of file>
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> tar -zxf
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> to extract
[11:44] <sophtpaw> to extract and install
[11:44] <lsuactiafner> to compress tar -jcf file.tar.gz directory/
[11:44] <sophtpaw> i thought there were 4 letters involved
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> sophtpaw : you should use apt-get to install programs, but tar -zxf ; cd directory ; ./configure ; make ; make install
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> should do it
[11:45] <johndarkhorse> lsuactiafner: not 'make install' use "checkinstall"
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> C-O-L-T, The Shut Down Expert page I found seems to say it only wakes from standby or hibernate, not cold.
[11:45] <lsuactiafner> nope -zxf works -z for gz and -x for extract and -f for follow
[11:45] <topyli> sophtpaw: the v is just for verbose output
[11:46] <Nameeater> how can I disable having to hit cntrl L for location in nautilus?
[11:46] <ivan> Hola
[11:46] <ivan> XD
[11:46] <ivan> Alguien de Mexixo?
[11:47] <ivan> Mexico?
[11:47] <ivan> mmmta... ok, Bye
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> !es
[11:47] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:47] <CarinArr> !es
[11:47] <CarinArr> oh heh
[11:47] <KWizzard> pls, how to turn on the webcam in Kopete?
[11:47] <CarinArr> tonyyarusso was quicker
[11:47] <ivan> Alguien utiliza UBUNTU?
[11:48] <corona> hello can some one tell me a good pckg for encoding mpeg-4 files for an ipod
[11:48] <ramunas> jgh
[11:48] <ramunas> guh
[11:48] <ramunas> hkh
[11:48] <ramunas> hjj
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> Haha!  I win in the factoid dual!  (Now if only I could have a useful skill...)
[11:48] <ivan> Mmmta.... era la primera vez ke entraba aki, sale, creo ke es la ultima, bye.
[11:49] <rambo3> si
[11:49] <johndarkhorse> !es
[11:49] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> It kind of makes me sad to call those factoids though, because I can't even read them.  I get 'por favor usen', but not the last bit.  Makes me feel sort of inferior around my 5-7 language friends.
[11:49] <nbound> anyone got the nvidia 8178's goin on breezy x86?????
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> yeh
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[11:50] <lsuactiafner> no problems
[11:50] <nbound> lsuactiafner, i know the command ;-P
[11:51] <nelposto> hey people.. I just reinstalled today .. but somethings looking a bit whack
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> Along the lines of what C-O-L-T wanted, will Ubuntu run things while in standby/hibernate?  (Can cron do something when it wants to if the system is in one of those states?)
[11:51] <nbound> and id have a CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 in front of that =P
[11:51] <Marlun> Is it possible to see which packages would install a specific file? I'm missing a "libncurses.so.5.0" and I would like to know how to get it without installing to much :)
[11:51] <topyli> Marlun: use apt-file
[11:51] <johndarkhorse> Marlun: install and update "apt-file" then run "apt-file search $string"
[11:52] <lsuactiafner> Marlun : apt-get install build-essentials and apt-cache search libncurses
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> Marlun, You can also do it from the packages.ubuntu.com page.
[11:52] <nelposto> firstly, ubuntu seems to have tried to mount my ntfs filesystem .. under /media/sda1 and /media/sda5 .. which it's never done before .. but it wont open them -- under /media  instead of my normal folders (cdrom etc.) there are just 001, 002, 003 up to 005 and a file 'devices'
[11:52] <Marlun> :) hehe, thanks for all the answers!
[11:52] <nbound> lsuactiafner, i need someone to walk me through it last install screwed up x coz of a mismatch between the kernel module (7667) and the x module (8178), also im not running the 64bit version anymore
[11:53] <nelposto> ubuntu wont mount my usb stick either ..
[11:53] <Vashypooh> yayyy i got it lmao
[11:53] <Vashypooh> my mouse works ><
[11:53] <nbound> nelposto, usb sticks should mount automatically =P
[11:54] <Mevagh> hello all.. i have a problem. i just installed breezy and once the first stage of installation finished my comp went to reboot and got an "OS not found" error. HELP!! what have i done??
[11:54] <vurdak> good morning to all
[11:54] <nelposto> nbound .. yeah - this is my problem .. if you read above it seems like ubuntu has just tried to mount my ntfs filesystems too but mucked it up (fresh install just now)
[11:54] <topyli> Marlun: btw, there is not libncurses.so.5.0
[11:55] <topyli> so.5 and so.5.4 are there
[11:55] <nbound> nelposto, its recommended to keep ubuntu and NTFS away from each other, they arent good playmates so to speak =P
[11:55] <robotgeek> nelposto: can you see if it shows up in dmesg?
[11:55] <nelposto> nbound mmm. but this is my 3rd installation .. all other times have worked fine
[11:55] <topyli> nbound: not really. read-only works just fine
[11:55] <nbound> Mevagh, did u install it on the right drive ;)
[11:55] <Mevagh> help... me...
[11:55] <Mevagh> yay
[11:56] <Mevagh> yep
[11:56] <nelposto> robotgeek: i'm not really sure what to look for ?
[11:56] <robotgeek> nelposto: i meant for the usb. plug it in, and type dmesg in a terminal
[11:56] <blekos> goodmorning (?) ppl
[11:56] <nbound> topyli, yeah true, but writing is still experimental
[11:56] <robotgeek> nelposto: u shud see usb etc etc
[11:56] <blekos> is there a way to empty your recycle bin from command line?
[11:56] <Mevagh> nbound, manually edited partition table using /dev/sda4 for '/' and /dev/sda2 for '/home' which has existing data
[11:56] <nelposto> robotgeek yep ... that all looks fine
[11:57] <nbound> Mevagh, made the right partition bootable?
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> nbound : exit x11 somehow, and just install the driver
[11:57] <lsuactiafner> nbound : make sure you got the 32bit driver
[11:57] <tonyyarusso> !ipod
[11:57] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[11:57] <Mevagh> nbound, also set bootable flag on /dev/sda4 and after that just went ahead with the normal install
[11:57] <robotgeek> nelposto: 'killall gnome-volume-manager && gnome-volume-manager' in a terminal
[11:57] <nelposto> but it didn't come up on the desktop -- and looking in /media  ... well it has folders of 001, 002, 003, 004, 005 and a file devices
[11:57] <nelposto> which doesn't seem normal to me
[11:57] <Mevagh> pretty sure i made the right partition bootable
[11:58] <Mevagh> is that error a bios error or a brub error??
[11:58] <nbound> lsuactiafner, it doesnt work... also ctrl-alt-backspace, will get u out of X, and yes i have the right driver
[11:58] <Mevagh> *grub
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> nbound : gdm will restart it
[11:58] <nelposto> robotgeek: there are errors, shall i paste them?
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> then sh NVIDIA-bleh
[11:58] <lsuactiafner> but you got to have build-essentials installed
[11:58] <nbound> lsuactiafner, i have done all that before
[11:59] <robotgeek> nelposto: yes, to the pastebin please
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> well then dont know whats wrong
[11:59] <nbound> lsuactiafner, i have done a sucessful install the problem is AFTER
[11:59] <Vashypooh> hmm, my glxgear info is so random
[11:59] <lsuactiafner> ponder..
[11:59] <nbound> lsuactiafner, u also need the gcc-3.4 package ;)
[12:00] <lsuactiafner> oh
[12:00] <nbound> Mevagh, sounds like bios
[12:00] <nelposto> robotgeek .. ok posted
[12:00] <robotgeek> nelposto: wont help unless u give me the url :)
[12:01] <Mevagh> hmm.. k. then i'll check the partition table, should i?
[12:01] <nelposto> robotgeek .. lol i've never used it before .. didn't cross my mind http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7162
[12:01] <nbound> Mevagh, but if u think it might not be... edit ur grub boot file (whatever its called) make sure its pointing to the right partitions
[12:01] <nbound> and also check whether u did make the right partition bootable
[12:02] <Mevagh> ok, i'll do that first.. but it shouldn't even get to grub if it's a bios error
[12:02] <nbound> Mevagh, thats right, but i cant see it to tell you whether it is or not =P
[12:03] <nbound> Mevagh, if its a bios problem, though it shouldnt even start loading grub
[12:03] <Trackilizer> is there anyway i can burn an ISO file using the terminal
[12:03] <robotgeek> nelposto: i have no clue, sorry. this is the first time i've seen this
[12:03] <liable> Trackilizer: yes, cdrecord.
[12:03] <nelposto> robotgeek hum.. thanks anyway
[12:03] <Mevagh> nbound, yeah.. i'll check the table first then edit grub
[12:04] <nelposto> i might restart in XP and see if it's all still there... then try reinstalling ubuntu
[12:04] <KrulleTrap> blekos,  rm -rf ~/.Trash/*
[12:04] <Trackilizer> liable, i'll then have the files on the CD and not the image?
[12:04] <johndarkhorse> Trackilizer: yes there is a console frontend to burn cds, i can't remember the name of it, tho
[12:04] <liable> Trackilizer: um, it will write the iso to the cd.. then you can look in the cd for the files..
[12:04] <ubuntu-new> is gnomemeeting allready installed or should i do sudo apt-get install gnomemeeting
[12:04] <No1Viking> Anyone that knows how I start an application as a superuser when I'm logged in as a regular user?
[12:05] <johndarkhorse> No1Viking: sudo
[12:05] <No1Viking> in gnome of course
[12:05] <Der_Zyclop> NolViking: Sudo
[12:05] <johndarkhorse> No1Viking: gksudo for gui gnome apps, kdesu for kde gui apps
[12:05] <Trackilizer> So, what do i write into the terminal
[12:06] <Trackilizer> The name of the file is "sgd_6.iso"
[12:06] <bimberi> ubuntu-new: it's part of a default ubuntu install
[12:06] <No1Viking> johndarkhorse, how do I set up that in gnome, gksudo?
[12:06] <nbound> anyone had a problem with the nvidia driver where it will install but upon restart you get an error about conflicting x and kernel modules (both different versions)
[12:06] <korptix> ok now i wanna install koeppix and i have ubuntu and xp already is ita good idea to do that?
[12:06] <bimberi> ubuntu-new: Applications -> Internet -> GnomeMeeting
[12:06] <blekos> thnx krulll
[12:06] <nbound> korptix, knoppix is a live distro isnt it?
[12:06] <owner> knoppix people dont recommend it for hd install
[12:06] <korptix> ok
[12:07] <Der_Zyclop> NolViking: Try typing it into a console
[12:07] <liable> Trackilizer: cdrecord -v -dev=/dev/hdc foo.iso
[12:07] <nbound> i wouldnt use any live cd for a hd install =P
[12:07] <korptix> k
[12:07] <Der_Zyclop> NolViking: or look for it in the menu
[12:07] <ubuntu-new> is there any guide how to install gnomemmeting
[12:08] <nbound> anyone had a problem with the nvidia driver where it will install but upon restart you get an error about conflicting x and kernel modules (both show different versions of the driver)
[12:08] <nbound> and then x wont start
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> nbound : maybe i got it
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> brb
[12:08] <topyli> ubuntu-new: here's one: sudo apt-get install gnomemeeting :)
[12:08] <Der_Zyclop> ubuntu-new: Try using synaptic.
[12:08] <lsuactiafner> nbound : locate nvidia | grep lib
[12:08] <nbound> lsuactiafner, ok :)
[12:09] <Trackilizer> liable, it's working, thanks alot
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> nbound : check you will see two differant installs, i think you should remove the apt-get package for the driver and then install the one your want
[12:09] <ubuntu-new> ok first sudo apt-get install gnomemeeting then i go up Applications -> Internet -> GnomeMeeting
[12:09] <lsuactiafner> and nbound : make sure you are running the correct kernel    uname -a
[12:10] <rabbit> hello?
[12:10] <nbound> lsuactiafner, yeah ive just reinstalled everything coz as i said it borked my X last time
[12:10] <ubuntu-new> hello rabbit
[12:10] <nbound> so just gotta dload everythign AGAIN ='(
[12:10] <ubuntu-new> whats cracking
[12:11] <tonyyarusso> I believe the phrase is, "Eh, what's up doc?"
[12:11] <Der_Zyclop> Does anybody know an in-console mp3/ogg Player?
[12:11] <rabbit> is there anything I can do about          check that "no other program is blocking the soundcard"       without rebooting??
[12:11] <rabbit> (how come ubuntu can't play 2 sounds at once? )
[12:11] <lsuactiafner> i think you should cd /lib/linux-restricted-modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-generic/ and rm -r nvidia and start over or whatever kernel you got/had
[12:11] <boxemall> is there anyone who knows how to solve my problem? soundchip ICE1712
[12:12] <johndarkhorse> Der_Zyclop: cplay, mpg321, mpg123
[12:12] <nbound> rabbit, it can ;)
[12:12] <rabbit> nbound, doesn't seem like it..   programs are complaining about soundcard control
[12:12] <Der_Zyclop> johndarkhorse: thy, I'll try them
[12:12] <senthil> rabbit, I need you help
[12:12] <s1> Is there a way to override the filepermissions to 0775 and the group to "users" in a folder for all files that are saved there?
[12:12] <nbound> rabbit, try using a diff multimedia system
[12:13] <nbound> lsuactiafner, ok
[12:13] <rabbit> senthil,   huh?
[12:13] <topyli> rabbit: maybe some programs are trying to use the device directly while others agree on using a sound server
[12:13] <tonyyarusso> Der_Zyclop, mplayer does it for me.
[12:13] <rabbit> nbound diff programs?
[12:13] <senthil> rabbit, i wanna know how to unmount my cdrom
[12:14] <senthil> rabbit, i read my CDrom now i'm not able to eject my cdrom
[12:14] <rabbit> senthil, if it's on your desktop, right click and slect "unmount"
[12:14] <nbound> rabbit, no change the system so it uses ALSA or OSS
[12:14] <senthil> i got it
[12:14] <senthil> rabbit, i got it
[12:14] <senthil> thanks
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> s1: sudo chmod -R 775 /pathtofolder && sudo chown nobody:users /pathtofolder
[12:14] <nbound> senthil, you have to stop readin off it first ;)
[12:14] <rabbit> nbount, ALSA sounds familiar..
[12:15] <lsuactiafner> senthil : type sudo eject
[12:15] <rabbit> nbound,  how can I resolve this problem without rebooting?
[12:15] <rabbit> nbound, rhythmbox crashed
[12:15] <senthil> rabbit, I did. Its working now ..... Thanks for your help cheers
[12:15] <Vashypooh> =D!!!!!
[12:15] <rabbit> senthil, no prob
[12:15] <nbound> rabbit, for one rhythmbox is satan
[12:15] <nbound> lol
[12:16] <Vashypooh> omgoshhh
[12:16] <Vashypooh> 12827 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2565.209 FPS
[12:16] <nbound> rabbit, system->prefs->multimedia
[12:16] <rabbit> nbound, I think it's decent..   what do you use?
[12:16] <Vashypooh> I got ATI drivers to work >.<
[12:16] <senthil> lsuactiafner, Thanks dude
[12:16] <rabbit> nbound, it has a library
[12:16] <DarthDevilous> o.O @ Vashypooh
[12:16] <topyli> rabbit: forget rhythmbox and others. switching programs won't solve your audio problem
[12:17] <Vashypooh> X feels really slugish tho
[12:17] <rabbit> topyli, I noticed
[12:17] <ompaul> rabbit, >>killall rhythmbox<< and restart it
[12:17] <nbound> rabbit, just store your files in an ordered sytem and use playlist files as well
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Vashypooh, How?
[12:17] <rabbit> nbound..  hmm interesting
[12:17] <Vashypooh> I switched from 64bit to 32bit
[12:18] <wakkah> I'd like to mount an NFS share without using a shell but "Places" / "Connect to Server..." only offers SSH, FTP, HTTP, samba and so on..
[12:18] <nbound> rabbit, far better than a "music library" ;)
[12:18] <lsuactiafner> Vashypooh : why?
[12:18] <rabbit> i dunno nbound,  playlist files?
[12:18] <s1> tonyyarusso, alright, will that work for the future och is that for the present file in the folder?
[12:18] <rabbit> nbound, it's easy to search
[12:18] <mtraker> Hi
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> wakkah, Might need to install nfs.  Places allows nfs for me.
[12:19] <Vashypooh> the problem is 64 bit drivers for ATI
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> ati is a bitch
[12:19] <nbound> rabbit, yeah when u open a playlist file, it will load in a playlist of files automatically
[12:19] <lsuactiafner> wont ever buy from em
[12:19] <nbound> lsuactiafner, same
[12:20] <tonyyarusso> s1: You can do that any time, as long as you have the absolute or relative path to what you want right.  The switch -R means recursive, meaning it will do that to the entire directory.
[12:20] <wakkah> tonyyarusso: thanx - i'll try to find some more nfs packages that could help with.
[12:20] <mtraker> I'm spanish user and can't make ubuntu in spanish.
[12:20] <rabbit> nbound, yeah.. I know
[12:20] <lsuactiafner> even if ati clean up the drivers, i will use nvidia just because they tried their best first
[12:20] <mtraker> I've got packages in spanish languaje
[12:20] <rabbit> ompaul, I don't think rhythm box is still running
[12:21] <renedox> how does one go about updating gaim?
[12:21] <nbound> rabbit, use it if u want, but most people dont =P
[12:21] <ompaul> rabbit, so why would you reboot this is not windows - but if there are parts still alive then it might be useful
[12:21] <nbound> renedox... apt-get update gaim ;)
[12:21] <mtraker> rabbit, My rhythm crash too
[12:21] <renedox> nbound: er.. I knew that..
[12:21] <ompaul> rabbit >>ps auwx | grep rhythm<<
[12:21] <renedox> nbound: lol, thanks :) :P
[12:22] <rabbit> ompaul, because if I reboot I can play music that's why..  and now it's complaining about the sound card being in use
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, You can get help in Spanish if it would be easier, otherwise I can try to help you.
[12:22] <nbound> renedox, though im not sure theres an update available =P
[12:22] <rabbit> ompaul, yeah just the grep comes back..  so it's not running
[12:22] <renedox> nbound: yeah, there isn't
[12:22] <nbound> renedox, u could try kopete it has more features
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, Have you checked out System > Administration > Language Selector?
[12:22] <renedox> nbound: I just think there's something wrong with my gaim...
[12:22] <ompaul> rabbit, so I do not understand why you would think you had to reboot
[12:23] <nbound> renedox, what exactly?
[12:23] <renedox> nbound: my messages don't go through
[12:23] <rabbit> ompaul, because I can't play music
[12:23] <mtraker> tonyyarusso, yes
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, (You can also make different users use different languages, or switch up what language you use each time you log in.)
[12:23] <renedox> nbound: as in, I can't start conversations with people
[12:23] <renedox> nbound: it never gets through
[12:23] <rabbit> ompaul, but if I reboot I'll be able to, something has the soundcard I guess
[12:23] <menko> hi, is there any way to log in with no password? I tried changin my password with passwd, and usermod, but it won't let me put a blank one...
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, GDM (the login manager) has a language selection.
[12:23] <nbound> renedox, =S strange, you could try reinstalling it
[12:23] <renedox> nbound: hm.. yeah
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, I don't remember exactly, but it's one of those things you can click on the login screen.
[12:24] <nbound> renedox, apt-get reinstall gaim
[12:24] <mtraker> tonyyarusso, in gdm i'm select spanish
[12:24] <ssam> rabbit, have you had a play with system -> preferences -> multimedia selector
[12:24] <abejoklisss> hello
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, Otherwise, set the language variable in ~/.profile.
[12:24] <ompaul> rabbit, so try this - make sure that all sound using programs are switched off - then do this for fun >>sudo killall esd << then try even if you think your not using esd
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, And that doesn't do anything?
[12:24] <abejoklisss> i cant hear sound on acer notebook
[12:24] <nbound> ssam, already told him to ;)
[12:25] <rabbit> ssam,  I'm switching to ALSA and it's "testing"
[12:25] <mtraker> I haven't .profile
[12:25] <ssam> nbound, ok :-)
[12:25] <nbound> rabbit, sometimes it wont like that and it'll get stuck there =P
[12:26] <rabbit> nbound, seems like it
[12:26] <rabbit> ompaul..  there's 2 esd related processes...
[12:26] <ompaul> killem
[12:26] <ompaul> killemall
[12:26] <rabbit> ompaul..     is killall safe?  what's the diff between kill and killall?
[12:26] <nbound> rabbit, just click the x wait a bit and 'force quit'
[12:26] <mtraker> tonyyarusso, what write in .profile?
[12:26] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, You can make it.
[12:27] <Q_Continuum> Question: Any way to make the windows "snap-to-grid" at the edge of the screen, or next to other windows?
[12:27] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, I'm doing this from memory, but I believe LANG=es_ES
[12:27] <menko> also, just making sure... does the data writeback option also work for reiserfs?
[12:27] <nbound> Q_Continuum, some things like xmms do auotmatically (to an extent)
[12:27] <ompaul> rabbit, it is and it takes out an ap without needing to know pid
[12:27] <ssam> Q_Continuum, dapper will do snap to edge of screen
[12:27] <mtraker> ok tonyyarusso , thank's
[12:27] <Q_Continuum> okay, anything within gnome?
[12:28] <ompaul> rabbit, only in so far as killing things is what you want to do :)
[12:28] <ssam> Q_Continuum, or you could try a different window manager
[12:28] <Vashypooh> what is chmod to make files executable
[12:28] <HappyFool> chmod +x
[12:28] <Der_Zyclop> Q_continuum: it works with fluxbox
[12:29] <Vashypooh> haha thats why, i was using -
[12:29] <ssam> Q_Continuum, you can replace metacity with openbox, and still have all the gnome goodness
[12:29] <nbound> Vashypooh, lol
[12:29] <Q_Continuum> hmmm
[12:29] <Q_Continuum> how would I go about that, ssam?
[12:29] <menko> is there any way to log in with no password? I tried changin my password with passwd, and usermod, but it won't let me put a blank one...
[12:30] <nbound> menko, whats so bad about a pword?
[12:30] <Q_Continuum> dumb terminal?
[12:30] <menko> it's annoying
[12:30] <sophtpaw> Hi, got a file i untarred in downloads but don't know how to cd into it to finish installation
[12:30] <Der_Zyclop> menko: how about a one charracter password?
[12:30] <nbound> menko, im sure u'll live ;)
[12:31] <Der_Zyclop> menko: like A
[12:31] <menko> With gdm autologin, does the user have to enter the password?
[12:31] <Der_Zyclop> menko: or B
[12:31] <ssam> Q_Continuum, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75471 :-)
[12:31] <Q_Continuum> thanks.
[12:31] <nbound> Der_Zyclop, yeah then we can goto menko's place and get into his computer... only so many 1 letter pwords around =P
[12:31] <renedox> nbound: how do I add /media/cdrom0/ or change it from /dev/cdrom/ ?
[12:31] <renedox> nbound: in synaptic
[12:32] <menko> nbound: the computer is logged into the same user account all day anyway lol
[12:32] <nbound> errr? that is ur cdrom drive?
[12:32] <nbound> menko, lol
[12:32] <renedox> nbound: yes
[12:33] <bimberi> menko: gdm autologin - no password required
[12:33] <nbound> renedox, yeah i dont get what u want to do?
[12:33] <menko> cool, thanks bimberi
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: i'm trying to reinstall gaim
[12:33] <bimberi> menko: np :)
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: but, it asks for a cd
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: so, I put in the breezy CD
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: but it's going to the wrong directory
[12:33] <nbound> renedox, have u enabled all the repositories?
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: how do I change the directory from /dev/cdrom/ to /media/cdrom0/
[12:33] <renedox> nbound: yes
[12:34] <nbound> renedox, edit it in the repositories section
[12:34] <renedox> nbound: where?
[12:34] <nbound> renedox, they are probably the same place just symlinked anyway
[12:34] <rabbit> ompaul:  problem..    now rhythm box isn't starting...
[12:34] <rabbit> ompaul: I killed esd stuff...
[12:34] <nbound> renedox, ummm settings -> repos....
[12:34] <rabbit> ompaul: I can see rhythm box processess
[12:35] <nbound> brb gotta compile my new kernel :D
[12:35] <ompaul> rabbit, kill -9 each of them
[12:35] <renedox> nbound: yeah, I'm there, but where do you edit the cdrom reference?
[12:35] <holdem> does anyone know of a reason why my live cd boot would stop at "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"?
[12:35] <renedox> damn
[12:35] <Fusionfox> hey will it be wrong if i ask a kubuntu question here?? =P
[12:36] <Vashypooh> how do i run a .run file
[12:37] <rabbit> ompaul, I can't play music..   but xmms for example, no longer complains about the soundcard being in use
[12:37] <ssam> Vashypooh, where did you get it from
[12:37] <Vashypooh> nm, i got it lol
[12:38] <ompaul> rabbit restart X and then see if it works
[12:38] <ssam> Vashypooh, whats it meant to be?
[12:38] <ompaul> not a reboot
[12:38] <rabbit> ompaul, how?
[12:38] <Der_Zyclop> Vashypooh: wtf is a .run file?
[12:38] <Vashypooh> its ATI drivers
[12:38] <ssam> Vashypooh, there should be an ati driver howto somewhere
[12:39] <Vashypooh> i got it now thanks =D
[12:39] <ompaul> rabbit "log out" not reboot restart
[12:40] <ompaul> Der_Zyclop, no idea but if you type "file foo.run" it will tell you what it looks like
[12:41] <Der_Zyclop> ompaul: it doesn't, but I don't care enough to do anything more complex
[12:43] <ompaul> Der_Zyclop, what doesn't ? "file that_file_name.run" does not tell you anything?file walker.sh:: walker.sh: Bourne shell script text executable
[12:43] <rabbit> ompaul, do you know what ctrl+alt+bspace does?
[12:43] <gnomefreak> rabbit, restarts X
[12:44] <ompaul> rabbit, that just forces X to restart you can click on "system -> log out" to do it cleaner
[12:44] <ompaul> gnomefreak, bwaaaaa
[12:44] <ompaul> :)
[12:44] <gnomefreak> :)
[12:44] <rabbit> ompaul, will this program still be running?
[12:44] <ompaul> rabbit, no
[12:44] <rabbit> ompaul, same deal with ctrl+alt+bspace right?
[12:44] <ompaul> rabbit, that is why I suggest chasing anything releated to rhy
[12:45] <ompaul> rabbit, no it is "clean"
[12:45] <Adsum> I have a problem, the last few days when i started ubuntu in the morning my NIC f*s up and i cant reach outside, not even my router. In the bootup process it takes really long for it while it waits for the Network interface to start and then it cant check the time against the server. Anyway, the only solution ive got so far is to reinstall ubuntu, and i really dont want to do that every day :S
[12:45] <rabbit> ompaul, hrm??
[12:45] <DarthDevilous> can i wipe all partitions from a hard disk while installing ubuntu, i.e. format/partition windows to h3ll?
[12:46] <Adsum> oh and the nic works perfect when i boot in windows
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> Adsum : maybe your nic doesnt power off like it should have you tried completly shutting off any power to the pc?
[12:46] <rabbit> ompaul ?
[12:46] <lsuactiafner> Adsum : if you boot windows then linux does linux nic work/
[12:46] <Adsum> lsuactiafner: well then it shouldn't work with windows should it?
[12:46] <ompaul> rabbit, that is why I suggest chasing anything releated to "rhy" using ps and "esd"  and ctrl + alt and backspace is a very crude way to close gnome and can bring issues of its own - this is not the space for those discussions so I suggest a menu based close down - bit like unplugging a computer to turn it off can lead to issues
[12:46] <Adsum> lsuactiafner: nope it doesnt work then
[12:46] <mtraker> tonyyarusso, can't run in other languaje
[12:47] <rabbit> ompaul, gotcha..    what's fclean about?
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, How did you install spanish capability?
[12:47] <rabbit> ompaul, a typo?
[12:47] <lsuactiafner> Adsum : do you know of the correct modules are loaded for it? also run lspci | grep -i eth so was can see the brand/make
[12:48] <takedown> Hi, how i can minimized to tray any app in KDE?
[12:48] <Storkme> what happens when you double click a file in nautilus?
[12:48] <Der_Zyclop> takedown: there should be symbols on the upper edge of the window
[12:48] <mtraker> tonyyarusso, in the first time al programs was in spanish, but now it's 50% in English ans 50% uin spanish
[12:48] <Storkme> when i try and open a java file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java"
[12:48] <Storkme> how can i change that
[12:49] <Der_Zyclop> takedown: just like in the-os-that-must-not-be-named
[12:49] <ompaul> rabbit, yes
[12:49] <Adsum> lsuactiafner: but its just that when i reinstalled it yesterday morning it worked allday even tho i rebooted several time... and now when i booted it up this morning it doesnt
[12:49] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, What do you mean by "In the first time"?
[12:49] <ompaul> rabbit, and it was a UK pound sign not an F :)
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lol Der_Zyclop
[12:50] <rabbit> ompaul, it's f for me
[12:50] <mtraker> when i'm install ubuntu
[12:50] <Q_Continuum> Want to change the console (terminal) resolution...that's the vga=xxx command, not sure what the setting is for my Dell Latitude's native 1400x1050 is though...
[12:50] <gnomefreak> it was f for me too :)
[12:51] <mtraker> the menu bar it's in english, into the menu in spanish, th progrma it's in english and the help in spanish
[12:51] <mtraker> I think it's more quickly learn english than change the langueje in the ubuntu :-P
[12:51] <Storkme> when i try and open a java source code file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java", instead of "scite /home/alex/file.java". how can i change this? do i need to set a custom command for open with?
[12:52] <Storkme> anyone?
[12:53] <Storkme> it works fine if i type manually "scite /home/alex/file.java"
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, Could be.  Looks like you're not too far off.  So what did you change after initial installation to make it go from all-Spanish to half and half?
[12:53] <gnomefreak> isnt the lang. seeting in language selecter? wont that change it to all spanish?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> setting*
[12:54] <mtraker> only i make update in automatic update
[12:54] <rabbit> ompaul, arrgggg I'm still getting that annoying "please check no other program is blocking the soundcard" message
[12:55] <ompaul> rabbit, can you paste ps auwx into  "paste.ubuntu-nl.org" and lets see what is there that is blocking the sound card
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, You didn't modify language settings at all?  Just updated?
[12:55] <sweet_kate> hello i need to write a text that will be compatible with microsoft office
[12:56] <mtraker> Just updated
[12:56] <ompaul> rabbit, however using amarock beep xmms all work better :-)
[12:56] <Storkme> when i try and open a java source code file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java", instead of "scite /home/alex/file.java". how can i change this? do i need to set a custom command for open with?
[12:56] <sweet_kate> how can i do that?
[12:56] <haakonn> can someone tell me how exactly to install libdvdcss2 for dvd playback support? all i get from apt-get is "Package libdvdcss2 is not available, but is referred to by another package.". and yes, i did as ubuntuguide.org said
[12:56] <Der_Zyclop> sweet_kate: Open Office is the answer
[12:56] <gnomefreak> sweet_kate, you want to read it in microsoft? or you want to read it in OOo
[12:56] <sweet_kate> Der_Zyclop: yes but which extension should i use?
[12:56] <sweet_kate> i m on linux but i ll need that file on windows too!
[12:57] <ompaul> sweet_kate, so you can do it in ooo on both or even save it as a .doc from OOo
[12:57] <Storkme> when i try and open a java source code file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java", instead of "scite /home/alex/file.java". how can i change this? do i need to set a custom command for open with?
[12:57] <nbound> can anyone get the kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386 pacakge =S?
[12:58] <tonyyarusso> mtraker, Well, I'm reasonably baffled by that.
[12:58] <yakuza_> hola?
[12:58] <nbound> !es
[12:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:58] <Storkme> when i try and open a java source code file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java", instead of "scite /home/alex/file.java". how can i change this? do i need to set a custom command for open with?
[12:58] <nbound> Storkme, u just said that =/
[12:59] <Storkme> i know =\
[12:59] <mtraker> ubotu thank for this, but i'm preffer here
[12:59] <nbound> Storkme, dont repost till its offscreen
[12:59] <ubotu> mtraker: gern geschehen
[12:59] <mtraker> sorry for my english
[01:00] <gnomefreak> mtraker, ubotu is a bot :(
[01:00] <nbound> mtraker, ubotu is a bot, i made him do that coz someone came in with a spanish ISP and said hola, so i was guessin maybe he wasnted spanish rooms
[01:00] <Der_Zyclop> mtraker: there are americans with worse english
[01:00] <Mevagh> nbound, i booted a slax cd and checked fdisk and the boot flag is on the right partition.. but i googled the error ("error loading operating system") and it's a WinXP error :( I just deleted my /dev/sda1 partition which had XP on it and created 2 new partitions in the space (sda1 and sda4). why would i be getting this error after formatting i wonder. ?!?
[01:00] <gnomefreak> !you
[01:00] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[01:00] <rabbit> ompaul, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7164
[01:00] <mtraker> thank 's
[01:00] <tonyyarusso> Der_Zyclop, I hereby apologize for the general idiocy of the people of my home country.
[01:00] <sweet_kate> !it
[01:00] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:01] <nbound> !en
[01:01] <ubotu> hmm... en is Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[01:01] <Adsum> is it possible to reinstall a network card? like virtually remove it and then install it without physically remove anything from my computer
[01:01] <Mevagh> btw, I'm installing breezy on sda1
[01:01] <nbound> !au
[01:01] <ubotu> nbound: What?
[01:01] <nbound> awww
[01:01] <rabbit> ompaul, you looking?
[01:01] <Jojoried> I have problems with sound in ubuntu 5.4. my sound card is a crystal semiconductor. can anyone help me?
[01:01] <Der_Zyclop> tonyyarusso: well, there are stupid Germans, too
[01:01] <nbound> so they have one for the poms but none for the aussies =/
[01:02] <nbound> can anyone get the kernel-headers-2.6.12-10-386 pacakge =S????
[01:03] <ompaul> rabbit, I will now
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> nbound: What did you expect? "Hey mate, they have computers in the outback now?"
[01:03] <tonyyarusso> nbound, (You could make one if you want.)
[01:04] <robertbb> Sleep. Night!
[01:04] <nbound> tonyyarusso, lol, hmmm my computer isnt on all day to keep the room open though
[01:04] <DarthDevilous> installing ubuntu here, a question about the partioning bit: what is the difference between "erase entire disk: blabla" and "erase entire disk and use LVM: blabla"?
[01:05] <holdem> does anyone know of a reason why my live cd boot would stop at "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> LVM=local volume manager
[01:05] <nbound> DarthDevilous, from experience do not use LVM, seems to cause some probs
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> nbound, What?
[01:05] <DarthDevilous> k thx
[01:05] <gnomefreak> DarthDevilous, dont use lVM its not worth it
[01:06] <Adsum> is there any relation between NIC troubles and upgrading to breezy?
[01:06] <ompaul> rabbit run this >>sudo kill -9 29346  29348  <<
[01:06] <nbound> tonyyarusso, you need an op so random people dont become ops in the room, if i set up an aussie channel id have to keep my PC on all day
[01:06] <Der_Zyclop> DarthDevilous: its Logical vonume manager </smartass>
[01:06] <nbound> tonyyarusso, and its summer down here and computer would keep my room sweltering hot =(
[01:06] <rabbit> ompaul..  hmm wav files eh
[01:07] <ompaul> rabbit, is it done?
[01:07] <DarthDevilous> lol, Der_Zyclop, you're a bit late ;)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> oh crap i spelled it wrong again :(
[01:07] <tonyyarusso> nbound, Oh, I see.  I thought you thought you had to be logged in for a factoid to work.  Couldn't you set it up so you would be an op when logged in, but forced to be opless without you?  (Maybe a question for Seveas...)
[01:07] <gnomefreak> volume btw
[01:07] <Der_Zyclop> I had to look it up on Wikipedia first
[01:08] <rabbit> ompaul, yeah.. still no go
[01:08] <ompaul> rabbit, kill -9  29345
[01:08] <nbound> tonyyarusso, hmmm i might set one up one day, but not now anyway
[01:08] <ompaul> rabbit, your formatting is doing my head in :-)))))
[01:08] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:08] <Jojoried> Can anyone help me with a crystal semiconductor? there is no sound on me computer.
[01:09] <ompaul> gnomefreak, stop it :)
[01:09] <rabbit> ompaul, there is no 29345..    (and what formatting??)
[01:09] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:09] <nbound> Jojoried, tryed their website?
[01:09] <gnomefreak> brb
[01:10] <Der_Zyclop> rabbit: just look up the process ID with ps
[01:10] <rabbit> Der_Zyclop.. uh yeah that's what I'm doing
[01:11] <Jojoried> no i have'nt but i need it for linux not windows
[01:11] <ompaul> rabbit, do this "ps auwx | grep question.wav"
[01:11] <rabbit> ompaul, there's nothing
[01:11] <nbound> Jojoried, i know, check their website for linux driver, if they werent auto detected theres no bundled version therefore u have to find them
[01:11] <ompaul> it was there eariler :)
[01:12] <holdem> sorry but once again, does anyone know of a reason why my live cd boot would stop at "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"? at that point the cd disk activity light stops
[01:12] <nbound> Jojoried, if they exist ;)
[01:12] <Jojoried> ok i'll trie
[01:12] <ompaul> rabbit, one final killall esd and try xmms or some such only one program at a time
[01:12] <nbound> holdem, i can tell u one thing it doesnt like ur sata drive
[01:12] <rabbit> ompaul, there's nothing for esd
[01:13] <ompaul> rabbit, try xmms or something please
[01:13] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak:???
[01:13] <Fordprefect> afternoon
[01:13] <rabbit> ompaul, I am
[01:13] <holdem> oh ok... i have a westen digital sata drive... what can i do to go around this?
[01:13] <rabbit> ompaul, reboot eh?
[01:13] <Fordprefect> anyone fancy fielding a question on wireless and encryption ?
[01:14] <robotgeek> Fordprefect: i'm okay with wep
[01:14] <Fordprefect> cool
[01:14] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, ?
[01:14] <Fordprefect> basically I got wireless working but when I try and use wep it won't connect up
[01:14] <ompaul> rabbit, you can do - but it does not make sense to me you should not have to do that
[01:14] <nbound> holdem, probably nothing to do with ur drive... more likely the sata controller, do u know what type of northbridge u run?
[01:14] <rabbit> ompaul, well it seems like there's no way!
[01:15] <holdem> no i dea, im pretty retarded when it comes to hardware
[01:15] <Fordprefect> the password and the type match but it's not connecting for some reason
[01:15] <ompaul> rabbit, and here is something that gnomefreak is not used to me typing - I give up
[01:15] <MacSlow> Greetings everybody!
[01:15] <robotgeek> Fordprefect: hmm, can the router see your attempts?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> ompaul, on what?
[01:15] <ompaul> gnomefreak, on a user problem
[01:15] <rabbit> ompaul : (
[01:15] <holdem> nbound, my computer is, however, a out of hte box dell dimension
[01:15] <Fordprefect> I am using a straight forward shared connection to a Buffalo air station route
[01:15] <gnomefreak> :( rabbits problem?
[01:15] <MacSlow> I'm trying the live DVD of dapper (flight2) and the automatic login of user "ubuntu" doesn't work.
[01:15] <Fordprefect> yeah its seeing them but the syslog is a bit poo for details
[01:16] <robotgeek> Fordprefect, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[01:16] <Trackilizer> Hey guys, i need your help.
[01:16] <nbound> holdem, nforce mean anything to you?
[01:16] <rabbit> ompaul, k I'm rebooting
[01:16] <MacSlow> on the vt1 I see "user not know to underlying authentication module"
[01:16] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T, you called?
[01:16] <ssam> MacSlow, that should be fix in flight 3, due on monday
[01:16] <MacSlow> How can I actually "fix" this
[01:16] <kcbnac> Ugh..just docked my laptop and it killed the trackpad and 'nipple' mouse, but isn't detecting the USB-attached mouse on the dock...any ideas how to get either to scan without powering down and booting fresh?
[01:16] <Fordprefect> cool thanks, let me read and I will give it a go
[01:16] <Trackilizer> After installing windows, Grub was gone so i re-installed it and now everytime i choose which OS to go to in Grub, i get an error saying "No Such Partition"
[01:17] <gnomefreak> MacSlow, you can wait till monday/tuesday
[01:17] <MacSlow> ssam, hm... I just spent (waited) hours fro the download.
[01:17] <tonyyarusso> ssam, That soon?  Cool.
[01:17] <MacSlow> damn
[01:17] <Trackilizer> But i just checked and i still have both partitions, so what should i do now?
[01:17] <robotgeek> Fordprefect: all of the trciks i know are documented there :)
[01:17] <ssam> MacSlow, sorry
[01:17] <nbound> Trackilizer, remember the rule, windows first, linux second (unless u want to edit ur grub donfig)
[01:17] <gnomefreak> MacSlow, dapper is not for use yet so you will be waiiting for alot of different things to work
[01:17] <Fordprefect> thats great thanks RobotGeek
[01:17] <ompaul> rabbit, without the machine in front of me I can think of no more - I would do the log out check lsof and and all sorts of stuff and life is far too short to explain " lsof -R "- list files open and see what is doing what to what
[01:18] <Trackilizer> nbound, i did that, but it was time to re-install windows...
[01:18] <MacSlow> all this waiting just to get some running Xorg 6.9/7.0 to do a bit of non-crashing (hopefully) RGBA-window coding :/
[01:18] <MacSlow> gnomefreak, well I know that...
[01:18] <Fordprefect> 'one other question, I lost the page for file system encryption, do you have a link for it ?
[01:18] <kcbnac> or anyone know the method to increase the resolution on my terminal screens?  (currently at whatever the default is...max on this LCD is 1400x1050)
[01:18] <teleyinex> hi
[01:18] <MacSlow> but I need some(thing) to get my Xorg 6.9/7.0
[01:18] <nbound> Trackilizer, you'll have to edit your grub config, ive never done it so i cant help you
[01:18] <MacSlow> gnomefreak, but I need some(thing) to get my Xorg 6.9/7.0
[01:18] <Trackilizer> !grub
[01:18] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[01:18] <Fordprefect> also is integrated File system encryption going to be in Dapper Drake ??
[01:18] <teleyinex> someone knows how can I fix the lag in sound with flash movies?
[01:18] <matid> Hey, do you have update-notifier baloon transparent in Dapper?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> isnt xorg on 8. something?
[01:19] <MacSlow> gnomefreak, and sofar my tries under FC4 (e.g. using src.rpms or jhbuild) failed
[01:19] <ssam> MacSlow, you could do a breezy install and upgrade to dapper using apt
[01:19] <rabbit> hey ompaul, rebooting fixed it : )
[01:20] <Trackilizer> nbound, would you happen to know how i can remove Grub from the livecd?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> So I'm reading an article right now about the ratio of men to women in Linux, and effective ways to encourage more women to get into it, and was wondering if people that go to LUGs or other events might be able to make a guess as to what percentage of Linux (in general and/or Ubuntu) users are women?  (Just plain curiosity.)
[01:20] <nbound> trackilizer not a clue unfortunately :(
[01:20] <steve_> !rar
[01:20] <ubotu> well, rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> I've been trying to introduce a femal friend to Ubuntu, and have found her to be a bit reluctant.
[01:20] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, most are
[01:20] <ssam> gnomefreak, xorg was 6.8 in breezy, 6.9 and 7.0 are the new ones, same code but 7.0 has new modular build system
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> *female.
[01:20] <holdem> nbound, i just checked my device manager, and it lists  "ACPI multiprocesser PC" under "computer"... btw, thanks a billion for the help
[01:21] <MacSlow> ssam, I actually installed 5.10 recently on two boxes and hoped to be able to update to some Xorg 6.9/7.0 via the universe-repository. But that doesn't seem to work (no Xorg 6.9/7.0 available)
[01:21] <nbound> steve_, there are some packages which will extract rarfiles available
[01:21] <gnomefreak> ok ty 6.8 is what i was thinking :(
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, And this page I found makes some really good points about why.
[01:21] <tonyyarusso> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ if anyone else is interested.
[01:21] <Fordprefect> thanks
[01:21] <Fordprefect> quit
[01:21] <kcbnac> tonyyarusso: our local LUG, most installfests are between 50 and 100 people, we've got one or two regular women, and then 1-4 spouses that get brought along, and any brought with with those coming with questions.
[01:22] <redguy> there's a HOWTO for that? geez
[01:22] <knubbe> anyone who successfully managed to install opera from the apt repository?
[01:22] <nbound> holdem, unfortunely that doesnt help, umm ill just tell u to do what i was gonna anyway, see if u can boot the live cd with a 2.6 kernel
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> kcbnac, Wow, that is really low.
[01:22] <MacSlow> ssam, gnomefreak: is there any other way to log into the liveCD-sytem of the 6.04flight2-DVD?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> redguy, It's pretty good too.
[01:22] <nbound> holdem, press F1 to F<whatever> for the options
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> knubbe, Yes.
[01:22] <holdem> ok
[01:23] <ssam> MacSlow, not that i know of
[01:23] <kcbnac> tonyyarusso: yeah, 5-10%...eh.
[01:23] <nbound> holdem, coz the 2.4 kernel doesnt really like nvidia sata (which im GUESSING is what u have)
[01:23] <knubbe> tonyyarusso: did you do anything special to make it work? it says: "opera: Depends: libqt3c102-mt but it is not installable"
[01:23] <MacSlow> I cannot believe the amount of work/time/pain I went under in trying to have this tiny little app -> http://macslow.mine.nu/cairo-clock-1.jpg work with a RGBA-visual.
[01:23] <ssam> MacSlow, you could probaly use the cd to upgrade all the packages on your install, but it might be tricky
[01:23] <nbound> holdem, it could also fix the problem even if its something else anyway ;)
[01:23] <gnomefreak> libqt3-mt i think is the lib you want
[01:24] <ssam> MacSlow, actually that might need the install cd
[01:24] <kcbnac> well, I'm just gonna shut down the system.  back later on my other sn (Q_Continuum, signed in on another box)
[01:24] <MacSlow> ssam, I'm more of a FC-kind of person. I'm relatively new to Ubuntu (.deb, apt-get, synaptic for that matter)
[01:24] <holdem> alright.. i tried going to that index before, do you know which menus i have to select to use the 2.6 kernel?
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> knubbe, I don't think I had to, but it probably depends on what other repos you have enabled, such that you can get that other package.
[01:25] <gnomefreak> holdem, what version of ubuntu?
[01:25] <holdem> breezy
[01:25] <holdem> livecd though
[01:25] <nbound> holdem, it will just tell you what to type to enable it
[01:25] <gnomefreak> it has 2.6 kernel
[01:25] <nbound> holdem, lol gnomefreak is right, its not the problem i thought it was then
[01:26] <knubbe> gnomefreak: i have libqt3-mt installed. thats the replacement package fo libqt3c102-mt.
[01:26] <knubbe> tonyyarusso: ok
[01:26] <gnomefreak> yes knorrie
[01:26] <gnomefreak> ooops
[01:26] <gnomefreak> knubbe,
[01:26] <nbound> off to install my nvidia drivers... (crosses fingers)
[01:26] <gnomefreak> knubbe, you will also need motif
[01:26] <ssam> MacSlow, to upgrade to dapper you need to change all occurences of breezy to dapper in /etc/apt/sources.list, then run sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[01:27] <gnomefreak> ssam, he might want to get ubuntu-desktop back too if he doesnt already have it back :(
[01:27] <ssam> MacSlow, then it will download a few hundred megs of packages and upgrade you
[01:27] <deefzi> what difference does it make if i want flash-player on my opera instead of mozilla or firefox?
[01:28] <ssam> MacSlow, be aware that it is a developer version at the moment
[01:28] <MacSlow> ssam, hm... that sounds like the info I needed. Thanks.
[01:28] <Storkme> when i try and open a java source code file it does like "scite /home/alex/file:/home/alex/file.java", instead of "scite /home/alex/file.java". how can i change this? do i need to set a custom command for open with?
[01:28] <MacSlow> ssam, sure... I only want to tweak-update one box to this so I can compile/test-run my app within Xorg 6.9/7.0
[01:28] <ssam> MacSlow, you might want to keep a close eye on http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=111 so that you dont upgrade during a big merge of new stuff
[01:29] <gnomefreak> MacSlow, not everything works there are alot of bugs still
[01:29] <MacSlow> ssam, ok... I'll keep an eye on that.
[01:29] <asolten> hi all... can anyone tell me what is the best html/php editor is ?
[01:29] <MacSlow> gnomefreak, I'm aware of that. I'm not going to use that box as my every-day workstation.
[01:30] <gnomefreak> MacSlow, i warn everyone so they dont come back and say you broke it
[01:30] <ssam> asolten, depends on your tastes, do you want a text editor with syntax highlighting or something fancier
[01:31] <MacSlow> gnomefreak, don't worry... I know what I'm heading for.
[01:31] <asolten> \ssam text with highlighting is fine...
[01:31] <ssam> MacSlow, i have a computer that i use as a music jukebox and that happily runs dapper
[01:31] <ssam> asolten, you could use vim on the command line, or gedit
[01:31] <ssam> asolten, bluefish is also worth a play with
[01:32] <MacSlow> ssam, well like I said... I just want to be able to test-run things under Xorg 6.9/7.0
[01:32] <knubbe> gnomefreak: ill try adding motif
[01:32] <asolten> ssam, then I'll take a look at bluefish again... thanks.
[01:33] <gnomefreak> knubbe, im not in ubuntu right now but do a search for motif in synaptic and install the openoffice moitif
[01:33] <gnomefreak> motif
[01:33] <nbound> FINALLY 8178's WORKING
[01:33] <gnomefreak> illl bb i have to reboot :(
[01:33] <knubbe> gnomefreak: i did a: "sudo apt-get install libmotif3 lesstif1 lesstif2 motif-clients"
[01:33] <DarthDevilous__> just successfully installed ubuntu on my laptop, but its hanging after the message "Restarting system."! should i restart manually?
[01:33] <MacSlow> ssam, gnomefreak: so "flight 3" is scheduled for monday?!
[01:34] <nbound> DarthDevilous__, yeah it should be fine
[01:34] <ssam> MacSlow, yes
[01:34] <DarthDevilous__> hmm well assuming i can...
[01:34] <tuskernini> Hi all, i installed kubuntu-desktop in ubuntu... is it possible to replace gnome with kde? without messing everything up?
[01:34] <nbound> to anyone else with nvidia 8178 problems remove ALL the restricted modules
[01:35] <sweet_kate> what chat client are you using people??
[01:35] <ssam> MacSlow, it might be late though. you never know
[01:35] <nbound> tuskernini, yes i beleive theres how-to's out there if u google them
[01:35] <tuskernini> nbound, thanx... will try it
[01:35] <nbound> sweet_kate, u can use the /version command to find out
[01:35] <knubbe> gnomefreak: it still doesnt work. ill go with the deb from opera.com instead :-/
[01:36] <MacSlow> ssam, I think the second rawhide (FC5test2) is also planned for monday or so
[01:36] <nbound> sweet_kate, wait i was wrong, not in here coz pm's are blocked if ur not registered
[01:36] <MacSlow> the big day of beta-releases :)
[01:36] <nbound> anyone else here using a PSP with ubuntu?
[01:37] <nbound> lol
[01:38] <DarthDevilous__> PSP with ubuntu o.O nice
[01:38] <nbound> DarthDevilous__, acts like a memory stick so no probs with it... just wondering what ppl are using to convert videos to MPEG-4 format
[01:38] <nbound> coz thats what the PSP plays
[01:39] <DarthDevilous__> googling found nothing?
[01:39] <nbound> ive found a few... just wodering what people recommend
[01:39] <nbound> wondering*
[01:40] <DarthDevilous__> tried googling the names of those few? ;)
[01:40] <ubuntu-new>  can i communicate with gnomemetting with someone using voIP
[01:40] <DarthDevilous__> you might get some forums with help, complaints, etc...
[01:40] <Genius16> if everyone found answers with google, this room would be obsolete
[01:41] <nbound> DarthDevilous__, true true... well my data cable comes sometime this week so gotta wait for that anyway :(
[01:41] <DarthDevilous__> no it wouldn't, since you gotta sift through the google answers, while in this room you have living encyclopedias
[01:41] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[01:41] <Genius16> yeah thats why he was asking
[01:42] <theine> nbound, either mencoder or transcode will convert to MPEG-4 I guess
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> what player would you suggest to get currently playing song?
[01:42] <nbound> NoWhereMan, errrr?
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> :D
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> i mean
[01:42] <ubuntu-new>  can i communicate with gnomemetting with someone using voIP
[01:42] <NoWhereMan> like in xmms-infopipe
[01:42] <nbound> theine, yeah they were the two i found
[01:42] <mjr> ubuntu-new, yes
[01:42] <theine> nbound, ah, ok
[01:42] <Genius16> ive got a question ive tried to google. if someone could help me out itd be greatly appreciated.
[01:43] <theine> Genius16, ask the question...
[01:43] <nbound> NoWhereMan, display the details?
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> nbound: get it from script
[01:43] <Genius16> i installed the game "cube" its a .run file. ive pretty much figured out how to use synapitcs and such. which help to uninstall tarballs etc. but to remove a program that doesnt show up there, do you just remove the directory it installs into?
[01:43] <NoWhereMan> it's for a IM now playing thingy :D
[01:43] <DarkFolken> Hey is there a release of ubuntu live that works with an AMD64bit X2 dual core processor?
[01:44] <theine> Genius16, yes
[01:44] <Genius16> i guess basically im wondering if most programs install files in multiple directories ala windows and its registry.] 
[01:44] <theine> Genius16, synaptic doesn't actually handle tarballs though
[01:44] <nbound> NoWhereMan, all the streaming media ive encountered updated the details automatically in xmms
[01:44] <nalioth> DarkFolken: the amd64 or i386 should work on the amd64x2, but probably not using both cores
[01:45] <nbound> Genius16, dpkg -r <package name>
[01:45] <goldplatedpentiu> Havin trouble installing real player
[01:45] <theine> Genius16, if you installed the game via the .run file, synaptic will not be aware of it at all
[01:45] <nbound> nalioth, DarkFolken theres an amd64 smp kernel i beleive
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> How can I search for IRC channels?
[01:45] <nalioth> nbound: yes there is a smp kernel, but not on the liveCD
[01:46] <nbound> nalioth, sif use live cd ;)
[01:46] <Genius16> theine, yeah aware it doesnt. which is why i was confused how to uninstall such things. just removing the directory would work im assuming?
[01:46] <Genius16> though you did say yes. lol
[01:46] <Adsum> tonyyarusso: /list
[01:46] <theine> Genius16, yes, that'll work
[01:46] <goldplatedpentiu> i hav downloaded the .rpm file but the installation sayes it cant find it????
[01:47] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, typed it correctly INCLUDING CAPS ;)
[01:47] <nbound> :P
[01:47] <goldplatedpentiu> pasted it in
[01:47] <tonyyarusso> Adsum, Erm, can I do something like grep to limit that list to what I'm looking for?
[01:47] <goldplatedpentiu> i think it cos of permissions
[01:47] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, why are u using an rpm in ubuntu?
[01:47] <theine> Genius16, maybe there are configuration files left in your home directory, try "ls -l ~/.cube" or something
[01:48] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, then use sudo to act as super user
[01:48] <theine> Genius16, those conf files won't do any harm if you leave them in place of course
[01:48] <goldplatedpentiu> aahh
[01:48] <james> Good afternoon ! :D
[01:48] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, ubuntu takes deb's not rpm's btw
[01:48] <jinroh> Trouble shooting suggestions requested:  Tecra 550CDT w/Ubuntu 5.10 - No sound and video will not go any higher than 640x480.
[01:48] <james> whats going on today?
[01:48] <Vashypooh> Is it normal for when i drag windows across the desktop, they leave a trail?
[01:48] <Vashypooh> but only when they go over another pgoram
[01:49] <nbound> jinroh, get proper video and sound drivers, reconfigure x
[01:50] <Genius16> theine, i get ya. that explains alot. puts alot of pieces together so to speak
[01:51] <james> anyone in here play wesnoth?
[01:52] <jinroh> nbound,  how can you tell what drivers are currently available within the OS?  Is there a command for this?
[01:52] <nbound> jinroh, what video card do u have?
[01:53] <gnomefreak> packages.ubuntu.com lists all packages avalible for each version
[01:53] <goldplatedpentiu> how do i use sudo???
[01:53] <goldplatedpentiu> the Man is usless
[01:53] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, sudo <command>
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> goldplatedpentiu, Just put it in front of any command that you want to run as root.
[01:53] <gnomefreak> goldplatedpentiu, what are you trying to do?
[01:53] <goldplatedpentiu> prob is i dont kno the command, its a gui install
[01:53] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get update  sudo apt-get upgrade so on and so forth
[01:53] <nbound> gnomefreak, he wants to install an rpm in ubuntu for some reason
[01:53] <jinroh> nbound,  S3 Virge/MX 3D
[01:54] <gnomefreak> goldplatedpentiu, dont use rpms please what package do you want?
[01:54] <nbound> jinroh, check the S3 website... (or google it)
[01:54] <goldplatedpentiu> real player sayes it want the rpm file
[01:54] <jinroh> nbound, Sound -  Yamaha OPL3-SA3
[01:54] <goldplatedpentiu> so i giv it
[01:55] <gnomefreak> goldplatedpentiu, not really rpms are messy on ubuntu install
[01:55] <nbound> jinroh, thats an old box i had one about 97 with the S3Trio64V2, and a OPL3-SA2
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !realplayer
[01:55] <ubotu> methinks realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:55] <goldplatedpentiu> rp8_linux20_libc6_i386_cs1_rpm
[01:55] <gnomefreak> check that out for realplayer
[01:55] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, realplayer needs no rpm =P
[01:55] <sophtpaw> someone please help me with this. I untarred .gz file and now need to cd into it to finish ./configuration or whatever. Can't seem to get in though? help
[01:55] <gnomefreak> !rpm
[01:55] <ubotu> it has been said that rpm is the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[01:56] <nbound> !alien
[01:56] <ubotu> hmm... alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:56] <gnomefreak> ty i was pouring water lol
[01:56] <nbound> lol
[01:56] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, where is it saved?
[01:57] <nbound> anyone used the nvidia ethernet driver?
[01:57] <goldplatedpentiu> sod it!! i think this is where XP wins
[01:57] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i got in! but can you tell me how to configure?
[01:57] <nbound> goldplatedpentiu, its not hard... :S
[01:57] <jinroh> nbound, How do I kick off the X configurator?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, what are you configureeing?
[01:57] <robotgeek> goldplatedpentiu: it's a non-free software, we don't have the code. not much we can do
[01:57] <sophtpaw> gnomefreaks: in downloads
[01:57] <goldplatedpentiu> kk
[01:57] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, ./comfigure --help is a great place to start
[01:58] <sophtpaw> xgospel-1.12d
[01:58] <sophtpaw> go client
[01:58] <nbound> can someone tell jinroh how to reconfigure x i forget the command =/ =(
[01:58] <robotgeek> jinroh, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:58] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt know what that is but for default compile you can always use ./configure
[01:58] <nbound> there we go... too bloody long for my liking
[01:58] <jinroh> Thanks
[01:59] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: ./configure on its own or followed by another command/name?
[01:59] <robotgeek> nbound: i use irssi to do the typing, i'm lazy too
[01:59] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, that is assuming you have everything you need to compile and make it
[01:59] <gnomefreak> just ./configure
[02:00] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: sudo apt-get build-dep <package> first
[02:00] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i have cd'd into it and done ls  there are so many names
[02:00] <nbound> robotgeek, what do u mean????, irssi is an irc client
[02:00] <Adsum> tonyyarusso: you can filter out what you want by typing /list whatever
[02:00] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, did you install build-essential?
[02:00] <sophtpaw> ?
[02:00] <gnomefreak> or apt-get build-dep package
[02:00] <robotgeek> nbound: it's an alias for me, i just type /x :)
[02:00] <gnomefreak> :(
[02:00] <sophtpaw> ./configre permission denied
[02:01] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, in terminal type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Adsum, Ah.
[02:01] <nbound> robot, ohhhh, bastard =P
[02:01] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, after that is done type sudo apt-get build-dep <packagename>
[02:01] <fsze> I am currently using Linux unknown 2.6.12-hibernate, and I would like to upgrade the kernel, to which kernel I should upgrade my system?
[02:02] <robotgeek> nbound: it's faster than telling the bot to tell you :)
[02:02] <nbound> lol, they programmed it into the bot?
[02:02] <nbound> !reconfigure x
[02:02] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, nbound
[02:02] <nbound> hmmm =/
[02:02] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nbound about x
[02:03] <nbound> didnt work
[02:03] <nbound> !x
[02:03] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, nbound
[02:03] <robotgeek> nbound: now, i've forgotten the bot's thing.
[02:03] <gnomefreak> !X
[02:03] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:03] <robotgeek> !botabuse
[02:03] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[02:03] <robotgeek> i started it off, sorry
[02:03] <nbound> lol
[02:03] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:03] <Seveas> !listvals x
[02:04] <gnomefreak> what do the bots get to gether in a room and have coffee?
[02:04] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: unable to find source package?
[02:04] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, for what?
[02:04] <sophtpaw> for xgospel
[02:04] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, im guessing you dont have the src repos enabled
[02:05] <robotgeek> Seveas: thanks, that was neat.
[02:05] <sophtpaw> there has to be an easy way to install xgospel
[02:05] <nbound> !Xorg
[02:05] <ubotu> [xorg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:05] <gnomefreak> Seveas, is there a xgospel type app in deb form?
[02:05] <nbound> there we go =)
[02:05] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: it was a tar.gz file, i did not see a deb file for it
[02:05] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, tar is not the easy way ill tell you that much
[02:06] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, did you look in synaptic?
[02:06] <sophtpaw> if there was a deb file i would have chosen it
[02:06] <gnomefreak> theres alot of gospel/bible apps in there
[02:06] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: lol, it is a client to play a game called Go
[02:06] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, in terminal type apt-cache search xgospel
[02:07] <gnomefreak> lol oops
[02:07] <nbound> gnomefreak, theres some bible app in add applications too, so u'd get a menu setup for it aswell
[02:07] <sophtpaw> lol, and no it is not in synaptic
[02:07] <nbound> anyway sif be religious =P
[02:07] <gnomefreak> i cant check im on win right now
[02:07] <gnomefreak> nbound, its to play a game :(
[02:08] <sophtpaw> in green there is install.sh
[02:08] <sophtpaw> is that an executable?
[02:08] <gnomefreak> !info xgospel
[02:08] <ilba7r> hope this is not offtopic. Anyone know if firefox have session management like opera. so i can save and reload a session in firefox
[02:09] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:09] <robotgeek> ilba7r: there are extensions like session saver
[02:09] <sophtpaw> how do i open one of the read files to get instructions how to install
[02:09] <nbound> anyone else get there downloads from the winehq repository cut off short?
[02:09] <ilba7r> robotgeek thanx now off to google on that :)
[02:09] <Genius16> ilba7r: the easy way around it is to make a bookmark folder with the pages you want and open them all in tabs. the right click option.
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, go into the dir and open the untarred file and look for read me or install file
[02:10] <ilba7r> Genius16, that is a good point too thanx
[02:10] <sophtpaw> don't know the command to do it in CLI
[02:10] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, i can tell you know your gonna need build-dep and build-essential
[02:10] <ilba7r> ok thanx all see ya later :)
[02:10] <nbound> anyone else get there downloads from the winehq repository cut off short???? or know why mine are =P ?????
[02:11] <sophtpaw> what does cat do
[02:11] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, go to places>home>file or open it on desktop by right clicking it
[02:11] <nbound> sophtpaw, makes it much easier to build apps and stuff
[02:11] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell sophtpaw about cli
[02:11] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell sophtpaw about compiling
[02:12] <sophtpaw> if someone saw the ls of my app they would be able to tell me how to install it
[02:12] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, i told you what you need to install it
[02:12] <nbound> sophtpaw, usually make <arguments> <filename>
[02:12] <gnomefreak> you have to have the tools before you can use the tools
[02:13] <gnomefreak> nbound, we havent go past ./configure
[02:13] <gnomefreak> got*
[02:13] <gnomefreak> slow down lol
[02:13] <sophtpaw> sorry, gnomefreak, what? i installed the build thing you mentioned earlier
[02:13] <gnomefreak> both of them?
[02:13] <nbound> gnomefreak, ohhh lol =P
[02:14] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install build-essential and sudo apt-get build-dep xgospel?
[02:15] <Aarthas> hi
[02:15] <Aarthas> I'm wondering if i can use ubuntu and keep my winxp
[02:15] <Aarthas> or do i have to uninstall xp
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Aarthas, yes
[02:15] <gnomefreak> Aarthas, no
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Aarthas, after win xp is installed install ubuntu on a seprate partion or seprate hd
[02:16] <nbound> how many ppl here run dual boot and how many are full ubuntu...
[02:16] <nbound> im full ubuntu
[02:17] <robotgeek> nbound: #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:17] <Aarthas> i have 2 hds, but there are files on booth, do I have to format one?
[02:17] <nbound> robotgeek, awwwww ='(
[02:17] <nbound> Aarthas, u can repartion and use the extra space from one drive for linux
[02:18] <robotgeek> nbound: i've seen these conversations, they end up in flamewars :)
[02:18] <Marlun> Anyone who knows something about compiling mysql sourcecode and specially the CFLAGS options?
[02:18] <nbound> robotgeek, yeah as have i, just wanted a demographic really
[02:18] <Aarthas> ok
[02:18] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: sorry, had to reboot. What were the two tools you asked me to install. I believe i installed both of them. However, i have been ableto install tar.gz balls in the past without these tools..anyways...
[02:18] <robotgeek> Marlun: why do you want to compile it?
[02:19] <nbound> sophtpaw, gnomefreak is currently "brb"
[02:19] <sophtpaw> kool
[02:19] <Aarthas> i'll try... and if it format my hdd i will never use anything but windows ever again...
[02:19] <sophtpaw> anyone else tell me how to install a tar.gz ball i untarred and now sitting there in downlaods?
[02:20] <sophtpaw> ./configure didn't work
[02:20] <nbound> aartrthas, thats ur problem ;) =P
[02:20] <Marlun> robotgeek: because I want to test and see if I can get it to work.
[02:20] <nbound> aarthas*
[02:20] <robotgeek> Marlun: ahh, okay. enjoy :)
[02:21] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, you need to install build-essential and than run sudo apt-get build-dep xgospel
[02:21] <Marlun> robotgeek: hehe, thanks
[02:21] <nbound> Marlun, tryed using winelib on the win32 executable?
[02:21] <gnomefreak> and more than likely you havent installed a tar without build-essential on ubuntu before
[02:21] <robotgeek> unless if it was a theme, precompiled binary
[02:21] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i believe i did that but it didn't work
[02:21] <Marlun> nbound: what?
[02:22] <sophtpaw> sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[02:22] <gnomefreak> build-essential is a meta pacckage of build tools
[02:22] <gnomefreak> yes sophtpaw
[02:22] <nbound> Marlun, winelib can convert win32 binaries to linux binaries
[02:22] <g1m> can anyone help me setting up my wlan? (driver was recognized)
[02:22] <robotgeek> g1m, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[02:23] <g1m> thx
[02:23] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: Invalid operation build
[02:23] <Marlun> nbound: how would that help me? =)
[02:23] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: apt-get build-dep xgospel will not work, it's not in the repos
[02:23] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, what says that?
[02:23] <nbound> Marlun, u said u wanted it to run on linux didnt you?
[02:24] <gnomefreak> robotgeek, it doesnt use the reg repos it uses the source repos
[02:24] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: i lost you on that one
[02:24] <gnomefreak> robotgeek, there are src repos that build-dep uses
[02:24] <Marlun> nbound: I want to install mysql from source-code.
[02:24] <robotgeek> nbound: mysql
[02:25] <robotgeek> gnomefreak: yes, but if the package isn't there, it cannot determine the dependencies. hence it will not work
[02:25] <nbound> Marlun, ohhh
[02:25] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: sorry, the error is in fact the one we had last time, i.e. unable to find a source package for xgospel-1.12d
[02:25] <nbound> then get the source code and build it
[02:25] <nbound> =P
[02:26] <Marlun> nbound: thats what I'm doing :P but I had some problems with the CFLAGS options, but i got some help at #mysql now, trying to compile now again.
[02:26] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, dont use the version numbers just xgospel
[02:26] <Vashypooh> where does Wine usually install programs at?
[02:26] <sophtpaw> tried that too
[02:26] <nbound> oh ok, good luck, compiling is tedious at the best of times :P
[02:27] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, do you know how to edit your sources.list file?
[02:27] <nbound> Vashypooh, /home/<user>~/.wine/drive_c/
[02:27] <sophtpaw> kinda : )
[02:27] <Vashypooh> weird, its not there
[02:27] <Vashypooh> trying to get steam to load up
[02:27] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak:  i don't see why that is necessary to configure a tar.gz ball i untarred
[02:28] <nbound> if ur looking in nautilus change ur preferences to view hidden files
[02:28] <sophtpaw> i've done it in the past without having to mess with source files
[02:28] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, and tarball is not installable you have to make it installable
[02:28] <nbound> and then restart nautilus
[02:28] <gnomefreak> tarball =archived package
[02:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sophtpaw about tar.gz
[02:28] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: if ./configure doesn't work, maybe there is another way. Can i give you the list
[02:29] <Vashypooh> thanks that got it working
[02:29] <steve_> After I installed cedega, and rebooted I couldn't log in anymore. My session where closed within 10 seconds and it said it was a error in /tmp, why  is that?
[02:29] <nbound> Vashypooh, no worries mate =)
[02:29] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, read the read me file please it gives step by step instructions
[02:29] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i know what a tar.gz file is
[02:29] <Vashypooh> any way to make the console show it too?
[02:29] <sophtpaw> how do i open it? cat something?
[02:30] <nbound> Vashypooh, console should automatically, if not do it as sudo
[02:30] <gnomefreak> open what?
[02:30] <ejofee> what is the difference between a blog and a personal page?
[02:30] <sophtpaw> READ ME
[02:30] <gnomefreak> right click the untarred file and open
[02:30] <gnomefreak> than look for the README or INSTALL file and read it
[02:30] <sophtpaw> i'm trying to learn how to do this in the CLI
[02:30] <Vashypooh> terminal wont show them
[02:30] <Vashypooh> even with sudo
[02:31] <Vashypooh> if i type dir .wine it does load
[02:32] <nbound> yeah then u can use dir to see all ur folders and files
[02:32] <nbound> i just use nautilus much easier
[02:32] <Vashypooh> yea, but thats pretty annoying lol, any way to make terminal show all hidden files
[02:32] <nbound> id imagine thered be a switch to the dir command
[02:32] <robotgeek> Vashypooh: ls -al
[02:32] <SanderD> Hi. Dead keys don't seem to work in Gnome here, even though I set the keyboard layout to U.S. International...
[02:33] <nbound> dir -a should work too Vashypooh
[02:33] <nbound> robotgeek, sif ls =P
[02:33] <Vashypooh> ok
[02:34] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, yes cat /path/to/readme should work
[02:34] <robotgeek> nbound: ?
[02:34] <Vashypooh> hmm, steam is requesting active X stuff, and its getting really confused
[02:34] <Vashypooh> it wants to install Mozilla Active X control
[02:35] <nbound> robotgeek, lol, dont worry, =P
[02:35] <fsze> I am currently using Linux unknown 2.6.12-hibernate, and I would like to upgrade the kernel, to which kernel I should upgrade my system?
[02:36] <nbound> fsze, what processor u running?
[02:36] <fsze> I am using laptop, HP ze4900 Pavilion, 1.5Ghz M Centrino
[02:36] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: lol, ./configure didn't work because the prefix command <sudo> was missing! anyhow now configure error is:
[02:37] <nbound> then 2.6.12-386 or 2.6.12-686
[02:37] <sophtpaw> found your X, but now I can't find <X11/Xlib.h>.
[02:37] <nbound> id imagine
[02:37] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, you dont need to run sudo with ./config
[02:37] <sophtpaw> well, it made it run
[02:37] <nbound> oh i forgot the 10 between the 12 and the x86
[02:37] <gnomefreak> let me reprase that you shouldn't have to
[02:37] <fsze> nbound, What you would pick?
[02:37] <sophtpaw> whereas it didn't before for whatever reason
[02:38] <SanderD> Can I set the keyboard layout for my whole Ubuntu system, so that I use dead keys in the 'console' too?
[02:38] <nbound> fsze, 686 will be MARGINALLY faster, i use 386 on my Athlon64 (used to use AMD64, but its not as compatible)
[02:39] <nbound> i didnt even know there was a "hibernate" kernel =S
[02:40] <Micksa> okay, who's an email expert here? :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> what email client?
[02:41] <Micksa> I'm wondering how many mail servers out there have a mail spool lifetime of 1 day
[02:41] <Micksa> instead of the usual 5 days plus
[02:41] <Micksa> gnomefreak: postfix :)
[02:41] <gnomefreak> not i :(
[02:41] <gnomefreak> sowwy
[02:42] <Vashypooh> how do i install a font? ;x
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Vashypooh about fonts
[02:42] <gnomefreak> Micksa, did you try #postfix  if there even is one :(
[02:42] <Micksa> yeah
[02:43] <Micksa> there's one guy awake there and he's gone off somewhere :)
[02:43] <Micksa> I'm kinda on a time limit here so I'm getting kinda fidgety
[02:43] <Micksa> normally I would happily research this stuff for days on usenet or whatever but yeah
[02:43] <gnomefreak> !postfix
[02:43] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> i would try googling it for a how-to
[02:44] <gnomefreak> <<<doesnt do postfix
[02:44] <andrea_> ciao a tutti sono andrea
[02:44] <vk> does anyone know how to install qparted?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> lol nbound
[02:44] <nbound> !it
[02:44] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:45] <nbound> gnomefreak, is there a way of scripting package downloads?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> nbound, what do you mean scripting lackage downloads?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> package even
[02:46] <nbound> gnomefreak, such as running a script that will download 100 packages or so uve programmed into it, so u dont have to do it urself if u reinstall
[02:46] <vk> HOWTO: install qparted?
[02:46] <badrunner> nbound: you might want to checkout kickstart
[02:47] <nbound> badrunner, thanx =D
[02:47] <gnomefreak> nbound, yes you can but thats  a large script and if you dont save it to floppy or cd you will lose it  look at the abs guide
[02:47] <no1wantdthisname> vk, just get gparted instead?
[02:47] <badrunner> nbound: i get the impression thats more what your trying to do. I think you can even do completely automatic installs with it
[02:47] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install <packagename>
[02:47] <no1wantdthisname> qparted not in repo
[02:47] <gnomefreak> than use gparted :)
[02:47] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:48] <mon> anyone here uses network-manager? i was wondering how i start the GUI thingie
[02:48] <g1m> i still have troubles configuring my ad-hoc wlan.. does anybody knows a good guide for ad-hoc or can help me ?
[02:48] <HappyFool> no1wantdthisname: qtparted ?
[02:48] <nbound> badrunner, gnomefreak, thanx both of u's, badrunner urs sounds really good =D
[02:48] <no1wantdthisname> vk is one asking for it
[02:48] <gnomefreak> nbound, his is the easy way :)
[02:48] <no1wantdthisname> mon: nm-applet
[02:48] <ubuntu-new> how do i install a webbcam on ubuntu
[02:48] <mon> no1wantdthisname: you're the man. thanks :)
[02:48] <nbound> gnomefreak, im lazy so easy is good =P
[02:49] <vk> nolwantdthisname, apt-get gparted?
[02:49] <no1wantdthisname> yeah
[02:49] <gnomefreak> suoa pt-get install gparted vk
[02:49] <vk> Tnx
[02:49] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:49] <vk> i found it in synaptic
[02:50] <ubuntu-new> how do i install a webbcam on ubuntu
[02:50] <nbound> gnomefreak, considering this is my 5th reinstall of ubuntu in the few days since ive had it (each install getting progressively more and more perfect (current is perfect)) ive done it the hard way too =(
[02:50] <gnomefreak> apt-get will install any package in synaptic
[02:50] <nbound> ubuntu-new, some u just plug in ;)
[02:50] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: falls short of installation because it can't find <X11/xlib.h> : <
[02:50] <ubuntu-new> do i do sudo apt-get install webbcam
[02:50] <gnomefreak> nbound, ive reinstalled linux distros more than i can count but still less that win
[02:50] <badrunner> nbound: you're welcome
[02:51] <nbound> ubuntu-new, no
[02:51] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, falls short where of install?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ./configure is not close to install
[02:51] <nbound> gnomefreak, yeah windows sucks im never gonna use it again...
[02:51] <sophtpaw> yes
[02:51] <sophtpaw> oh, ok falls short of configuration then
[02:52] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, you didnt install all the libs that it needs
[02:52] <sophtpaw> ./configure runs and at the end i get no X11 error
[02:52] <gnomefreak> the readme file should tell you what you need to install
[02:52] <sophtpaw> libs?
[02:52] <g1m> anybody here who can help me stup my ad-hoc wlan?
[02:52] <nbound> lol, sif school ;P i finished in 2005 :D
[02:52] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: dependencies?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> libs=librarys you need the libxyz and libxyz-dev
[02:52] <nbound> !wlan
[02:52] <ubotu> nbound: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:52] <gnomefreak> yes sophtpaw
[02:53] <amnezia> hi
[02:53] <gnomefreak> thats what build-dep does
[02:53] <rabbit> What's the best way to update gtk-gnutella ??
[02:53] <gnomefreak> it installes the build-dependencies
[02:53] <gnomefreak> rabbit, doesnt the upgrade command find the updates for it?
[02:53] <phreak97> anyone happen to know how i can change what paypal address ebay gives my buyers?
[02:54] <phreak97> i couldnt find it
[02:54] <nbound> rabbit, apt-get update gtk-gnutella
[02:54] <nbound> phreak97, maybe #ebay would know =P
[02:54] <s_spiff> phreak97, asking the question in the wrong channel
[02:54] <nbound> or #paypal
[02:54] <nbound> if either exists
[02:54] <s_spiff>  :P
[02:54] <s_spiff> hehe
[02:54] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, if you dont have the repos with src in them not wouild be a great time to get them cause your gonna need them
[02:55] <gnomefreak> now would *
[02:55] <amnezia> Can anyone try to connect to an ftp server (with login) from the Places menu in Ubuntu? I need to enter my password 2 times, seems broken to me, but I'd like confirmation on this
[02:55] <rabbit> nbound, do I need to do that with sudo ?
[02:55] <phreak97> no luck
[02:55] <nbound> rabbit, yes
[02:55] <phreak97> i figured there might be other sellers here
[02:56] <nbound> rabbit, if ur gonna do a lot of console work, use sudo -s to become root
[02:56] <phreak97> even buyers have to choose what paypal account is associated with ebay come to think of it
[02:56] <gnomefreak> nbound, sudo -i
[02:56] <rabbit> nbound, I got: E: The update command takes no arguments
[02:56] <gnomefreak> its safer
[02:56] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i'm stuck. Dunno what to do. I don't know what libs are missing. X11 is installed and xlib.h synaptic don't find. What are the repos with src you mention?
[02:56] <nbound> rabbit, ohhh try upgrade not update =P
[02:56] <_jason> gnomefreak, why is it safer? (I don't know)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> _jason, either do i but i heard it was
[02:57] <_jason> gnomefreak, oh
[02:57] <nbound> _jason, id imagine it protects some system files from writes
[02:57] <triceratops> Anyone out there who successfully installed trafficwatch on Dapper? It seems it needs python2.4-biggles which depends on libplot but Dapper offers libplot2c2
[02:57] <nbound> but if u know what ur doin id imagine either would be fine
[02:58] <nbound> triceratops, find a libplot deb somewhere
[02:58] <Seveas> gnomefreak, _jason, sudo -i resets $HOME and $USER, sudo -s does not - this is the cause of all those lockouts when running eg. k3b as root
[02:58] <nbound> and install manually
[02:58] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, go to easysourece when ubotu posts it and fill it out including the source repos and replace you /etc/apt/sources.list with the new one
[02:58] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas  :)
[02:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sophtpaw about easysource
[02:58] <triceratops> nbound: libplot is not the first problem. trafficwatch needs python2.4-biggles
[02:58] <nbound> thx Seveas
[02:59] <rabbit> nbound, okay.. it read package lists, built dependency tree, and then: 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[02:59] <nbound> triceratops, well find a python2.4-biggles deb somewhere
[02:59] <rabbit> nbount,  it still says I have 0.95
[02:59] <nbound> rabbit, then its the most currewnt in the repository
[02:59] <gnomefreak> rabbit, than thats all the repos will give you
[02:59] <triceratops> nbound: I thought you would say that... :-))
[02:59] <nbound> triceratops, hehe ;)
[03:00] <triceratops> nbound: But I would like a way to install it in Dapper without using suspicious deb-sources
[03:00] <rabbit> nbound, gnomefreak,    the 0.95 series expired in november: (see first news post)  http://gtk-gnutella.sourceforge.net/en/?page=news
[03:01] <rabbit> nbound, gnomefreak.   so what's the easiest way to update it?
[03:01] <nbound> triceratops, then your out of luck, a python deb is unlikely to have been haxored btw =P
[03:01] <triceratops> nbound: Better, to install it using Dapper sources only...
[03:01] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: what do i do exactly with the easysource website i'm lookin at?
[03:01] <nbound> rabbit, find a newer deb somewhere and manual install
[03:02] <_jason> sophtpaw, choose the repos you want/need and then replace /etc/apt/soruces.list with the output it gives you
[03:02] <nbound> triceratops, either get the deb, or wait for the package to be made avail for dapper, could try the breezy package but who know what could happen then
[03:02] <sophtpaw> _jason: how do i know which ones i want. do i just tick away and ?
[03:03] <_jason> sophtpaw, what are you trying to do?
[03:03] <rabbit> nbound,    just use dpkg -i file.deb  ??
[03:03] <gnomefreak> _jason, she need the src repos for building xgospel
[03:04] <gnomefreak> she/he
[03:04] <sophtpaw> _jason: well i'm trying to install a tar.gz ball i untarred a while back. gnomefreak reckons i don't have something
[03:04] <nbound> rabbit, yep
[03:04] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, you dont have all the deps for it
[03:04] <rabbit> nbound,  no uninstalling the current version or anything?
[03:04] <gnomefreak> thats why you got that error
[03:04] <nbound> rabbit, you learning and installing at the same time ;) =P
[03:04] <rabbit> nbound,  yes yes..   it knows where to install?
[03:04] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: so what do i tick exactly?
[03:05] <viyyer> I have a bug /wish list to be reported
[03:05] <nbound> rabbit, yep, does it all magically
[03:05] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, you see where it says country code?
[03:05] <viyyer> it's really strange that there is not input method for devanagari
[03:05] <viyyer> in the /etc/X11/xkb/symbols/in
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, tick the 2 boxes right below that and the boxes onboth  the right of the repos above the warning
[03:06] <sophtpaw> yes
[03:06] <nbound> rabbit all done?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, or the other repos in there if you want
[03:07] <rabbit> nbound..  not yet.. just got the file
[03:07] <nbound> heh, slowcoach ive already done a deb while telling u this ;)
[03:08] <rabbit> nbound, sweet..  that was easy :)
[03:08] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: ok, and with the source output i copy and add to my existing sources list?
[03:08] <nbound> rabbit, no worries mate =)
[03:09] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, did you just click source or did you click all of them?
[03:09] <triceratops> nbound: Oh, didn't look for Brezy packages. I will have a look...
[03:10] <nbound> lol
[03:10] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, if you just click the source box than add them to exsiting if you check all boxes and the source boxes replace your with the new one
[03:10] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: all of them above the warning
[03:10] <gnomefreak> replace yours with that one than sophtpaw
[03:10] <nbound> rabbit jeez what time is it in canadia
[03:10] <sophtpaw> ok
[03:10] <nbound> ottawa to be exact
[03:10] <nbound> hehe
[03:10] <rabbit> nbound, 9:10 am
[03:10] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, save than sudo apt-get update
[03:10] <gnomefreak> 9:10 am here too
[03:10] <sophtpaw> ok
[03:11] <nbound> 1:10am here
[03:11] <sophtpaw> i don't bother with the two letter code of 'my country'
[03:11] <nbound> hurry up and get to monday u bums =P
[03:11] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, dont need to
[03:11] <viyyer> there is no hindi keyboard layout on breezy xkb package :(
[03:12] <alexissoft> hi
[03:12] <JoeyR> can anyone help me set up WPA on my iBook wireless?
[03:12] <nbound> anyway cy'all later
[03:12] <nbound> too late/early for troubleshooting =P
[03:13] <QbY> I have just installed NetworkManager (http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager), however, it appears to be fighting with the existing manager (that installed by default)..  How do I kill the existing?
[03:15] <gnomefreak> :( 112mb zip file
[03:15] <Vashypooh> I cant seem to get Steam to load
[03:16] <JoeyR> how do i know what wireless linux driver i am using?  I am trying to install WPA supplicant and i need to know this
[03:17] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: do i need to killall -gnomepanel? having replaced the sources list i am still getting the same error message on ./configure
[03:18] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw,  did you run sudo apt-get update?
[03:18] <sophtpaw> yes
[03:18] <gnomefreak> you should not have to kill gnome-panel why would that even come to mind?
[03:19] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, did you happen to run sudo apt-get build-dep xgospel?
[03:19] <sophtpaw> nope, try it
[03:19] <gnomefreak> try it
[03:20] <gnomefreak> it should list the deps that it needs to install your x11 ones should be part of that list
[03:20] <sophtpaw> same error with build-dep
[03:20] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, can you paste your sources.list file to pastebin please
[03:21] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, also the errors you are getting with the build-dep command
[03:22] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: E: Unable to find a source package for xgospel . this is the same error i had earlier with this command
[03:22] <sophtpaw> where's pastebin?
[03:22] <takedown> anyone know how i can install plugin in kxdocker?
[03:22] <gnomefreak> !pastebin
[03:22] <_jason> gnomefreak, I can't find xgospel either, what repo is it supposed to be in?
[03:22] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:22] <gnomefreak> _jason, its not a deb
[03:22] <gnomefreak> im on the site now please hold
[03:23] <_jason> gnomefreak, build-dep just installs dependencies for the deb in the repos I believe
[03:23] <gnomefreak> in the source repos _jason
[03:23] <gnomefreak> there is a thing to play go in the repos but i dont know what it is
[03:24] <bobslaede> hey everybody
[03:24] <bobslaede> i need some help with ubuntu on a powerpc
[03:24] <bobslaede> i got it up and running right now, well, not exactly, but close
[03:25] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, im assuming you didnt read the website :(
[03:25] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: what website?
[03:25] <bobslaede> i freeses up
[03:25] <gnomefreak> http://gailly.net/go.html
[03:25] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: did you get the list i sent you?
[03:26] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, nope
[03:26] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, if your not registered you cant msg people
[03:26] <sophtpaw> great
[03:27] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, go to synaptic and search for go
[03:27] <gnomefreak> see if it brings up the app to play go
[03:27] <gnomefreak> _jason, ive seen a bunch of people wanting to play go i assumed it was same app :(
[03:28] <_jason> gnomefreak, oh, I just find gnugo and gtkgo
[03:29] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, sudo apt-get instlal gnugo  or gtkgo its easier
[03:29] <sophtpaw> gnomefreak: i need this client to join IGS
[03:29] <gnomefreak> <<on winxp at this time so i cant search nothing :(
[03:30] <matid> sophtpaw: maybe you can try joining KGS, it have native Java client
[03:30] <gnomefreak> why wont gtkgo ot gnugo help you join the client
[03:30] <matid> sophtpaw: of course if you're not forced to stick with IGS
[03:31] <bobslaede> anybody with experience with powerpcs and ubuntu
[03:31] <sophtpaw> matid: i have cgoban and do play on kgs, but i wanted to check out IGS too
[03:31] <sophtpaw> matid: just didn't think it could be so hard to install a client
[03:32] <sophtpaw> matid: no, not hard, impossible!
[03:32] <gnomefreak> the page i gave you gives you the download and how to run it
[03:32] <_jason> sophtpaw, the author has precompiled binaries on his site, along with a README which details the setup steps for it.  Have you tried that?
[03:32] <gnomefreak> http://gailly.net/go.html
[03:32] <gnomefreak> thats the site
[03:32] <matid> sophtpaw: I haven't tried igs, but I'll look for sth
[03:33] <ibmnotebook> how can i start WIFI-RADAR automatically at boottime?
[03:33] <sophtpaw> _jason: what author ?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, http://gailly.net/go.html
[03:33] <_jason> sophtpaw, the site gnomefreak gave you, the author of the program you are trying to install
[03:33] <Keyseir> I'm install the qt toolkits from source. The guide instructs me to 'su -c "make install"'. If I do that and give a password for su, it says authentication failed. If I replace su with sudo and put thruogh the command and password it says that the command -c isn't found. What is the proper syntax for this command in ubuntu?
[03:33] <gnomefreak> its near the bottom of the page
[03:33] <gnomefreak> Keyseir, use sudo
[03:34] <Pygi> without -c
[03:34] <gnomefreak> agreed
[03:34] <_jason> Keyseir, su -c -> sudo
[03:34] <topyli> Keyseir: why are you compiling qt in the first place?
[03:34] <_jason> Keyseir, and use checkinstall, not make install
[03:34] <Pygi> look, the Gaim fan :P
[03:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell Keyseir about checkinstall
[03:35] <gnomefreak> checkinstall is nice
[03:35] <gnomefreak> i love it
[03:35] <Pygi> no, it's not :P
[03:35] <ibmnotebook> how can i add an application to the boot sequence?
[03:35] <Vashypooh> anyone want to tackel why my wine and steam arent working? ><
[03:35] <Pygi> add it to rcx something
[03:35] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: /etc/rc2.0
[03:35] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: /etc/rc2.d
[03:35] <steve_> How do I burn cd's with Ubuntu?
[03:36] <steve_> !cdburner
[03:36] <ubotu> steve_: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[03:36] <gnomefreak> steve_, gnomebaker or k3b or anyother app you wish to use
[03:36] <bobslaede> how do i install ubuntu on a iMac g5? :)
[03:36] <gnomefreak> !gnomebaker
[03:36] <topyli> steve_: the file manager :)
[03:36] <ubotu> No idea, gnomefreak
[03:36] <steve_> gnomefreak: are they free and easy to use?
[03:36] <Pygi> yes, they are open source
[03:36] <gnomefreak> steve_, yes
[03:37] <ibmnotebook> bobslaede i want to add wifi radar to the boot sequence.... that means i edit the two files you r2.0/d but what do i add?
[03:37] <gnomefreak> everything except java is free to use lol
[03:37] <matid> sophtpaw: have you tried their native client?
[03:37] <matid> sophtpaw: for me it works flawlessly
[03:37] <Pygi> huh, java SHOULD be free :/
[03:37] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: put a symlink to your script in /etc/rc2.d
[03:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[03:37] <sophtpaw> their native client?
[03:37] <nvez> rawr, 1.0.7 in ma cd, WRONG VERSION MATE. :p
[03:37] <gnomefreak> java you can get free but cant distro it :(
[03:37] <matid> IGS client, it's called glGo
[03:37] <sophtpaw> matid: they told me to install xgospel which is why i haev
[03:38] <Pygi> freaky: yes, I know :P
[03:38] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, who told you to install it?
[03:38] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: something like /etc/rc2.d/S20yourscript
[03:38] <sophtpaw> when i registered
[03:38] <Keyseir> thanks alot guys
[03:38] <sophtpaw> igs, recommended xgospel for linux
[03:38] <ibmnotebook> bobslaede thx i will try
[03:38] <bobslaede> :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> sophtpaw, than you have to decide what linux distro
[03:39] <stianj> dual head on ati with dapper, anyone got that working?
[03:39] <sophtpaw> matid: after you downloaded glGo where do you go from there
[03:39] <matid> sophtpaw: sudo apt-get install libsdl-image1.2 libsdl-ttf2.0-0
[03:39] <gnomefreak> maybe they have rpms for redhat
[03:39] <matid> sophtpaw: do you have .deb file?
[03:39] <sophtpaw> yes
[03:39] <matid> So just install it:
[03:40] <matid> sudo dpkg -i glGo-1.3.1.deb
[03:40] <ibmnotebook> bobslaede  i find rc0.d to rc5.d in this folder... what are these folders exactly for?
[03:40] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: the different runlevels
[03:40] <matid> You'll also need to run the command I sent before (with libsdl*) since it'd refuse to run without them
[03:40] <bobslaede> rc2.d is at boottime
[03:40] <bobslaede> rc6.d is reboot eg
[03:41] <bobslaede> so forth
[03:41] <stianj> well then, an easy way to downgrade xorg?
[03:41] <bobslaede> stianj: remove it, and install an earlier version :)
[03:41] <steve_> GnomeBaker csrahed when I tryed burning a cd :|
[03:41] <sekhar> please help
[03:42] <sekhar> help
[03:42] <ibmnotebook> bobslaede there i find already a file "s20wifi-radar"...
[03:42] <bobslaede> ibmnotebook: then it should run at boottime
[03:42] <pkern> Hi, is there any way to boot from LVM with grub or lilo?
[03:42] <truz24``> Who has screenshots of their setup?
[03:43] <truz24``> Of their desktop or actual desk :-)
[03:43] <pkern> lilo gives me some lines about how wrong device-mapper is and refuses to install, grub just passes the wrong root fs to the kernel (being 0,0 when /dev/mapper/o2-system is passed)
[03:44] <bombfans> hello
[03:44] <nvez> "firefox is already the newest version."
[03:44] <bombfans> everybody
[03:44] <nvez> It's running 1.07, anyone?
[03:44] <_jason> truz24``, look through http://ubuntuforums.org/gallery/index.php
[03:44] <gnomefreak> nvez, that is the version of aFF for breezy
[03:44] <gnomefreak> -a
[03:44] <nvez> Ah
[03:44] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[03:44] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:44] <matid> sophtpaw, did you succeed in running it?
[03:45] <sophtpaw> matid: installed it. How do i run it?
[03:45] <bobslaede> nvez: get firefox from mozilla.com
[03:45] <bobslaede> nvez: dont use apt
[03:45] <sophtpaw> i installed version 1.0
[03:45] <gnomefreak> i lost JDK for win :(
[03:45] <matid> Type glGo either in terminal or in Run Application (alt+f2)
[03:46] <sekhar> help needed how to play mp3 and movies in ubuntu
[03:46] <sekhar> i am a linux illiterate
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about mp3
[03:46] <Vashypooh> easy stuff ^^
[03:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sekhar about mp3
[03:46] <matid> I'd suggest to run it in the terminal first since you'll be able to get the error message if it fails
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about multimedia
[03:46] <steve_> What is "On the fly" ?
[03:46] <Blippe> !javadebs
[03:46] <Vashypooh> just follow the stuff Jason sent you, its really easy
[03:47] <_jason> sekhar, if you don't understand something on those pages just ask here and someone will help you out
[03:47] <Nei> does someone know who/what vostok.ubuntu.com is?
[03:47] <matid> sophtpaw, you should be able to get sth like this: http://urlx.org/9db9
[03:48] <_jason> steve_, http://www.answers.com/main/ntquery?s=on%20the%20fly&gwp=8
[03:48] <sophtpaw> matid: looks nice! -.-
[03:49] <sm> hi all
[03:49] <steve_> what the.. gnomebaker just ruin my cd's! It crashes in the middle of the process
[03:49] <sekhar> jason i need help
[03:49] <_jason> sekhar, with what specifically
[03:49] <sm> is there a package I can install to pull in all -dev packages ? I want a full complement of .h files for building
[03:49] <sekhar> come pm
[03:49] <bobslaede> steve_: just burn from the filemanager
[03:50] <sm> and if so how could I have found it
[03:50] <Blippe> sm use synaptic and serach for all with -dev, and then install them!
[03:50] <_jason> sekhar, ask here, more people can help you that way.  If you are talking to someone in particular just precede what you say with their name like I am doing
[03:50] <steve_> bobslaede: that didn't work eather.. It told me to put in a emty cd but it was already a emty cd in the driver
[03:50] <sekhar> okay
[03:50] <gnomefreak> steve_, try another cd
[03:50] <bobslaede> steve_: my computer does that too, dont know what the problem is... my sisters laptop works, but mine at work doesnt, so dont know sry
[03:50] <steve_> gnomefreak: I've tried 4 cds
[03:50] <sekhar> i downloaded xmms.tar
[03:51] <sm> Blippe: that'll work, thanks. I thought there might be a single pkg
[03:51] <Blippe> steve_, try k3b it seems ti wirj better
[03:51] <sekhar> how to install it
[03:51] <Blippe> *to
[03:51] <sm> to pull in the main ones
[03:51] <sekhar> jason there?
[03:51] <Blippe> sekhar, use synaptic instead, it is easier and it always work
[03:51] <sekhar> synaptic wats that?
[03:51] <_jason> sekhar, in ubuntu you rarely need to install .tar's, use synaptic instead.  It is much easier.  ubuotu will send you a link
[03:51] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about synaptic
[03:51] <bobslaede> sekhar: the gnome apt interface thing
[03:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell sekhar about synaptic
[03:52] <Blippe> that is a program for doenloading and installing preprepered programs right into your computer
[03:52] <gnomefreak> sekhar, system>admin>synaptic package manager
[03:53] <nvez> hey, anyone knows why XMMS isnt playing music o nthe default sound device (USB headphone) rather than my builtin?
[03:53] <Blippe> gnomefreak, did you ask about java?
[03:53] <gnomefreak> Blippe, lol no
[03:53] <_jason> nvez, do other things play on your headphones?
[03:53] <sekhar> thanx
[03:53] <gnomefreak> wait kind of
[03:54] <nvez> _jason, only gnome sounds do
[03:54] <sekhar> i will try that out and contact if not helpfull
[03:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell nvez about xmms
[03:54] <gnomefreak> JDK on winxp i cant find the devel part :(
[03:55] <bobslaede> is there a support chan for ubuntu on mac_
[03:55] <bobslaede> ?
[03:55] <pkern> bobslaede: Just use this one.
[03:55] <sekhar> synaptic tell warning
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://in.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/in.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-updates_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <sekhar> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_restricted_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[03:55] <bobslaede> pkern: so, can you help me?
[03:55] <CarinArr> ack
[03:55] <pkern> sekhar: Stop it.
[03:55] <pkern> sekhar: apt-get update
[03:55] <bobslaede> sekhar: pastebin it
[03:55] <_jason> sekhar, in the future you have to use pastebin
[03:56] <pkern> bobslaede: Don't know ;)
[03:56] <bobslaede> pkern: :(
[03:56] <sekhar> pastebin?
[03:56] <_jason> !pastebin
[03:56] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:56] <bobslaede> pkern: i got lots of trouble with this you see
[03:56] <sekhar> sorry i din know that
[03:56] <theverant> anyone know how to fix broken wacom tablet? I apparently have the driver installed, but changes to xorg.conf do not work
[03:57] <_jason> sekhar, open a terminal (accessories -> terminal), type 'sudo apt-get update', enter your user password when it asks
[03:57] <matthewjames> hey guys, i can not start ubuntu because of xserver, can someone jelp me?
[03:57] <theverant> it only works if my mouse is set to "mice" instead of mouse0
[03:57] <pkern> bobslaede: What's your problem?
[03:57] <theverant> but then it's operating as a mouse, not a tablet
[03:58] <theverant> it's very fustrating
[03:58] <bobslaede> pkern: it freezes up when i boot it, i cant even boot the live image
[03:58] <matthewjames> hey guys, i can not start ubuntu because of xserver, can someone jelp me?
[03:58] <bobslaede> pkern: well, it runs right now, but i didnt boot it completely
[03:58] <pkern> bobslaede: What kind of Mac?
[03:58] <sophtpaw> matid: can you help me out a sec?
[03:58] <bobslaede> pkern: iMac G5
[03:58] <matid> sophtpaw, sure
[03:58] <pkern> bobslaede: Do you use the right kernel image? |:
[03:58] <bobslaede> i had to do the expert-powerpc64 install
[03:59] <bobslaede> pkern: that should be the right kernel image
[03:59] <sophtpaw> matid: downloaded 1.3 deb where do you do sh glGo.install ??
[03:59] <pkern> bobslaede: Well, I don't know, I'm sorry. I only installed iBooks by now.
[03:59] <matthewjames> has anyone here had prob;ems with xserver not allowing the comman startx?
[03:59] <pkern> bobslaede: Yep, it's right.
[03:59] <holdem> does anyone know of a reason why my live cd boot would stop at "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"? any help would be appreciated!
[03:59] <pkern> bobslaede: But just a "it freezes" doesn't help.
[03:59] <bobslaede> pkern: allright, thanks
[03:59] <sophtpaw> matid: i dpkg -i the glGo.deb
[03:59] <KILLDAJEWS> is ubuntu better than gentoo
[03:59] <bobslaede> pkern: i know, thats what i got
[03:59] <Blippe> matthewjames,  try "sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg"
[03:59] <matthewjames> k
[03:59] <bobslaede> pkern: i think its the ata drivers or something
[03:59] <sophtpaw> matid: i want to have a launcher from Applications/games
[03:59] <_jason> !ops
[03:59] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[03:59] <bobslaede> i freezes up in console to if i run stuff
[04:00] <bobslaede> pkern: this is ssh to some other server
[04:00] <matid> sophtpaw, you just have to run the command I sent you
[04:00] <Seveas> _jason, ?
[04:00] <matid> sophtpaw, launcher should be created automatically
[04:00] <_jason> Seveas, ' KILLDAJEWS ' trolling
[04:00] <sophtpaw> matid: sorry, what was it
[04:00] <matid> sophtpaw, when you downloaded .deb file just run:
[04:01] <Seveas> _jason, i saw no trolling, but the nickname is not tolerable
[04:01] <matid> sudo dpkg -i glGo-1.3.1.deb
[04:01] <bobslaede> pkern: if i go into x, i only get the login screen for gdm, cant move the mouse, cant use the keyboard
[04:01] <_jason> Seveas, k
[04:01] <matid> sophtpaw, it should install glGo
[04:01] <pkern> bobslaede: Perhaps the problem is rather with USB? Does the clock update itself?
[04:01] <matid> Then you may have to restart gnome-panel to have menu refreshed, but it shouldn't be necessary
[04:01] <dfgas> am i the only one that has problem with firefox 1.5 locking up and crashing?
[04:01] <matid> If you want to restart it anyway type:
[04:01] <matid> killall gnome-panel
[04:02] <sophtpaw> matid: i downloaded deb file, then dpkg -i the file, how do i now run it?
[04:02] <Seveas> matid, no
[04:02] <bobslaede> pkern: it updates itself at boot
[04:02] <Seveas> killall -HUP gnome-panel
[04:02] <Seveas> that's enough :)
[04:02] <sophtpaw> on the igs site it says to sh glGo.install
[04:02] <ernst> hello
[04:02] <bobslaede> pkern: and right now the usb keyboards works fine as you can see :p
[04:02] <matid> sophtpaw, don't bother about it
[04:02] <vk> How to install themes for ubuntu.
[04:02] <matid> sophtpaw, it should be necessary if you install from source
[04:02] <steve_> !rar
[04:02] <ubotu> rar is probably a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140
[04:02] <matid> Seveas, thx
[04:02] <sophtpaw> matid: don't see how to run it
[04:03] <Seveas> ugh
[04:03] <pkern> bobslaede: Yep. I only had already problems where one bad USB device prevented me from doing any input, but the mouse worked. Anyway I don't think I could help you, sorry.
[04:03] <sekhar> e: unable to lock adimistrator director
[04:03] <sekhar> y
[04:03] <vk> howto install themes for ubuntu?
[04:03] <Seveas> !rar =~ s/#head-32ba956d13d49934f65bf67dd40646653a7a6140//
[04:03] <sophtpaw> matid: i did dpkg -i what is next?
[04:03] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[04:03] <_jason> sekhar, close synaptic and try again
[04:03] <ernst> Can anyone tell me why doesn't the command "make" work?
[04:03] <sekhar> okay
[04:03] <holdem> can someone help me with this, please?:  my live cd boot would stop at "Attached scsi disk sda at scsi1, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"?  thanks!
[04:03] <bobslaede> pkern: if i boot the live image, i can move the mouse very briefly when booting into x
[04:03] <matid> sophtpaw, type: glGo in your terminal
[04:03] <Seveas> !tell ernst about compiling
[04:04] <matid> sophtpaw, if it fails post the error message
[04:04] <ernst> ok i go search for compiling
[04:04] <Seveas> ernst, ubotu gave you alink
[04:04] <sophtpaw> matid: ok, that works! but it would be nice to have it in Applications/games as a launcher
[04:04] <bobslaede> pkern: if i cant get it to work, idd might be forced to return to macosx
[04:05] <sekhar> done jason
[04:05] <_jason> sekhar, now open synaptic again
[04:05] <sekhar> if i log in as root is there any need for sudo command
[04:05] <matid> sophtpaw, do you run Breezy or Dapper?
[04:05] <sophtpaw> matid: figured it out - Applications menu
[04:05] <Seveas> no sekhar
[04:05] <_jason> sekhar, there is not, but ubuntu prefers you use sudo
[04:06] <sophtpaw> matid: breezy. Are people already on Dapper!?
[04:06] <_jason> sekhar, you can read why
[04:06] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about sudo
[04:06] <matid> sophtpaw, you can be if you don't care about some random crashes from time to time ;)
[04:06] <pwn__> The partition that contain ubuntu, what FS type should that be? Just "Linux"?
[04:06] <ves> Hi, wondering if someone could help me. I'm trying to install some unsupported versions of mpd and friends, from a custom apt line. Problem is I'm getting: http://ves.pastebin.com/506744 when attempting to install it. Is there anyway I can sort out the libglib dependency?
[04:06] <gnomefreak> and broken packages
[04:07] <matid> yeah
[04:07] <steve_> what is the rar package named? nonfree rar or something?
[04:07] <matid> sophtpaw, did you put it in your menu or do you still need some help?
[04:07] <pwn__>  The partition that contain ubuntu, what FS type should that be? Just "Linux"?
[04:08] <_jason> steve_, unrar-nonfree or unrar-free
[04:08] <sophtpaw> matid: i managed to add it with the menu editor. So, i can launch it from gui - thx
[04:08] <_jason> steve_, if you only want to unrar and not create rar archives that is
[04:08] <sekhar> jason i opened synaptic now how to install xmms
[04:08] <_jason> steve_, otherwise I believe there is just the 'rar' package
[04:09] <matid> sophtpaw, no problem, feel free to ask again if you need sth
[04:09] <_jason> sekhar, click on the search button, enter 'xmms', search, right click on 'xmms' and click install, then apply up top
[04:09] <sophtpaw> matid: thank you. Just need to register with igs and i should be able to get on
[04:11] <sekhar> i see several files when i searched
[04:11] <jenda> Yo folks, any tips on making my Gnome look nice without too much CPU usage?
[04:12] <python> i love ubuntu, but when i came to put it on mygf's PC in excitement it wouldnt boot of the LIVE
[04:12] <dutch> what partitioner do I need for ubuntu ?
[04:12] <_jason> sekhar, if you left-click, you can read the description.  The one you want is just called 'xmms'
[04:12] <gnomefreak> dutch, the one that comes with the install disk should work fine
[04:12] <dutch> it's name ?
[04:13] <_jason> dutch, the livecd has gparted, not sure if that's what you are asking
[04:13] <sekhar> its downloading
[04:13] <gnomefreak> dutch, is ubuntu already installed?
[04:13] <python> can anyone help, i recieve cant find x server when its about to load GNOME, xorg.conf needs changing for this pc any ideas?
[04:13] <sekhar> but ive already downloaded it jason
[04:14] <_jason> sekhar, once it finishes it will show up in your menu under 'sounds and video'
[04:14] <gnomefreak> python, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:14] <b3n5> Hi
[04:14] <selinium> dutch, Try gparted
[04:14] <jenda> !themes
[04:15] <sekhar> jason what did exaxctly did i do?
[04:15] <python> gnomefreak: so running the command you have suggested could make it work?
[04:15] <_jason> sekhar, you installed xmms with synaptic
[04:16] <sekhar> did it download the xmms from internet?
[04:16] <_jason> sekhar, yes, from ubuntu's official repositories
[04:16] <b3n5> is here a german ubuntu channel?
[04:16] <gnomefreak> python, running that command will give you a configure set up for your mouse video card moniter so on and so forth
[04:16] <_jason> !de
[04:16] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:16] <b3n5> Thanks
[04:17] <nbound> the winehq repository keeps cutting out, any ideas on winehq mirrors?
[04:17] <gnomefreak> !wine
[04:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nbound about wine
[04:17] <sekhar> jason when i try to access hd it says i dont have permission but if i log in as root its possible .. is it possible to give that permission to the user account
[04:17] <dutch> gnomefreak: running 5.10 ubuntu right now...want to add two other OS's
[04:18] <nbound> heh done that
[04:18] <gnomefreak> dutch, you can either use gparted or you can use the os's install disk depending on the os
[04:18] <_jason> sekhar, do you mean a partition that you mounted or a file somewhere on '/'?
[04:19] <python> gnomefreak: Cheers Mate, i'll give this a whirl...
[04:19] <sekhar> yes in the windows ntfs partision
[04:19] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about ntfs
[04:19] <dutch> gnomefreak, okay, just checked gparted not installed..
[04:19] <gnomefreak> nbound, you said the winehq repo is not working but yet that gives you an alternative
[04:19] <gnomefreak> dutch, sudo apt-get install gparted
[04:19] <nbound> gnomefreak, thats is the winehq repo
[04:19] <nbound> =P
[04:19] <vk> how to install a gnome team form gnome-look.org in ubuntu?
[04:20] <gnomefreak> nbound, the sourceforge is also?
[04:20] <_jason> vk, do you mean 'theme'?
[04:20] <nbound> but luckily it SEEMS to be work thus far
[04:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell vk about themes
[04:20] <nbound> gnomefreak, thats the winehq repository
[04:20] <matthewjames> hey blippe, u there?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> oh ok
[04:21] <sophtpaw> matid: i can't figure this igs out, can you?
[04:21] <gnomefreak> nbound, sorry i dont use wine :( i feel if i want to run win apps i use windows :)
[04:21] <matthewjames> hey blippe, u there?
[04:22] <nbound> gnomefreak, ill only be using it for a few games
[04:22] <matthewjames> Gnomefreak: can u help me real quick?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, with what?
[04:22] <matthewjames> xserver
[04:22] <matthewjames> i did what blippe said
[04:23] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, what did he say?
[04:23] <matthewjames> it said it was not installed
[04:23] <matthewjames> so i typed this
[04:23] <matthewjames> sudo apt-get install xserver.xorg
[04:23] <nbound> heh when all else fails goto the repository using firefox :P
[04:23] <Keyseir> Anyone here have experience install the Qt toolkit on Ubuntu? I followed the instructions (ftp://ftp.trolltech.com/qt/source/INSTALL) and now I'm getting the configure error please check your installation stuff....
[04:23] <gnomefreak> ok matthewjames and?
[04:23] <matthewjames> and it said it could ot find the module
[04:24] <Dreamglider> where in do i setup a static ip on ubuntu ?
[04:24] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, when you installed ubuntu how did you install it?
[04:24] <nbound> matthewjames, try xserver-xorg
[04:24] <matthewjames> defualt installation
[04:24] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, then run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:24] <HappyFool> Dreamglider: /etc/network/interfaces -- check out 'man interfaces' for details
[04:24] <_jason> Keyseir, pastebin the errors please
[04:24] <matthewjames> i did, thats what blippe said
[04:25] <matthewjames> it said it was not installed
[04:25] <gnomefreak> and walk through tthe proccess slowly to make sure everything is correct
[04:25] <HappyFool> Dreamglider: it may be possible via System -> Admin -> Networking too, i'm not sure
[04:25] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, run sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[04:25] <matthewjames> k, brb
[04:25] <Keyseir> ubotu, tell keyseir about pastebin
[04:25] <matid> sophtpaw, what exactly do you need?
[04:26] <gnomefreak> yayyyyyy its almost done :)
[04:26] <sophtpaw> on kgs on entering there is a lobby where the community of players can chat
[04:26] <sophtpaw> matid; on kgs we have rooms and a list of ongoing games
[04:26] <sophtpaw> its all blank here and don't know how to join a chanel
[04:27] <Keyseir> _jason, http://pastebin.com/506763
[04:28] <matid> sophtpaw,  i know
[04:28] <vk> when gnome art says downloading wallopaper 12/1223 ,, it does just download a litst of aviable wallpapers, right?
[04:28] <sophtpaw> hehe
[04:28] <matid> sophtpaw, you can click Game button to look for games
[04:28] <sophtpaw> hmmm...
[04:28] <Rusty1_64> alsaconf
[04:28] <matid> sophtpaw, I'll have to look for a while to get familiar with this program since I haven't used it before, so just wait a litte
[04:28] <gnomefreak> vk, yes
[04:29] <matid> s/litte/little
[04:29] <gnomefreak> if you are using gnome-art
[04:29] <matid> sophtpaw,  were you able to register an account?
[04:29] <_jason> Keyseir, apt-cache search --names-only libqt | grep dev, install those.  I don't know which one you need
[04:29] <sekhar> jason this what when i did ntfs mounting
[04:29] <sekhar> sudo bash diskmounter
[04:29] <sekhar> By default the disks will be writable only by root and
[04:29] <sekhar> sekhar (sekhar)
[04:30] <sophtpaw> matid: yes, i did that
[04:30] <sekhar> but still not accessale
[04:30] <Keyseir> _jason, may I inquire as to how you got that out of that error message?
[04:30] <_jason> Keyseir, 'Qt (>= Qt 3.1.0) (headers and libraries) not found'
[04:31] <_jason> sekhar, what is diskmounter?
[04:32] <sekhar> i saw it in ubotu ntfs stuff that u send me
[04:32] <nvez> what is the "end" line for ssh?
[04:32] <vk> yea, now when i have used gnomeart to download a .tar.zg theme file, how to install it??
[04:32] <nvez> like a semicolon in perl?
[04:32] <noooonie> hi guys
[04:32] <noooonie> how do i restart a service without booting?
[04:33] <_jason> sekhar, oh I see, the script.  I'm not sure about that.  Read the 'manual' method below.  It will inform you of options you have to pass to the 'mount' command in order to have all your users access it (umask=0222)
[04:33] <Keyseir> _jason, Installing. I'll keep you posted. Thx.
[04:33] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[04:33] <sekhar> jason can you access yours
[04:33] <maxtnk> hello ii need help
[04:33] <maxtnk> what will update kernel not compilling him?
[04:33] <Sh4d0x> i have another probleme
[04:33] <bretzel> Hi all :-) I am searching to How to make apache2 to run in SSL mode : it is started as "-k -DSLL" but connot connect through "https://..." ? any hints ?
[04:33] <vk> how to install a downloaded theme?
[04:33] <matid> sophtpaw, if you want to chat like on KGS you can use Channels window
[04:34] <matid> You have to join one of the channels on the list
[04:34] <_jason> sekhar, yes
[04:34] <noooonie> whats the command to restart a service?
[04:34] <Sh4d0x> everytime i boot and ubuntu opens the folder X11 on my desktop and a folder from my windows maps :s is that normal? and how can i turn it off?
[04:34] <matid> It's not as intuitive as on KGS, so you'll probably have to get used to it
[04:35] <maxtnk> /etc/init.d/apatch2 restart
[04:35] <sekhar> jason when i click my compyter i see 4 partitions and a file system the 4 partitions are ntfs so where is the ext2 partition
[04:35] <sekhar> ?
[04:35] <matid> sophtpaw, if you want to create new game click Seek game button, provide necessary data and wait for player
[04:36] <maxtnk> what will update kernel not compilling him?
[04:36] <bshumate> bretzel: this is a good guide to use for apache2 w/ ssl : http://www.tc.umn.edu/~brams006/selfsign_ubuntu.html
[04:36] <_jason> sekhar, filesystem
[04:37] <maxtnk> possible this do by apt-get?
[04:37] <sekhar> copying files to ntfs is dangerous?
[04:37] <maxtnk> nobody does not want to help me?
[04:38] <bshumate> maxtnk: sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade should upgrade your kernel if there is a newer one available
[04:38] <_jason> sekhar, yes, do not do it.  It could mess up your files
[04:38] <eriksti> Hey.. I'm running Eclipse (and PHPEclipse) and constantly getting "The connection was refused when attempting to contact localhost."  Any ideas how to fix this?
[04:38] <gnomefreak> maxtnk, if that doesnt upgrade kernel run sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:38] <matid> sophtpaw, if you want to match someone you have to enter Players menu, choose player that is available, right click and choose 'Match'
[04:38] <maxtnk> but how much this MB will?
[04:39] <matid> sophtpaw, at least that's what I figured out till right now :] 
[04:39] <gnomefreak> eriksti, read the read me file it shows how to change it
[04:39] <maxtnk> so this will update whole  with program but me it is necessary only kernel?
[04:39] <blekos> is there anyway for synaptic to be informed that there are upgrades for some programs? e.g the clamav has a new version released, from synaptic manager &/or update manager this changes are not released
[04:40] <matid> sophtpaw, I requested a match just to see how it works
[04:40] <cycykewl> bonjour
[04:40] <maxtnk> so this will update whole distr with program but me it is necessary only kernel?
[04:41] <mrsol> hi, i have just installed ubuntu, and it detected my wlan adapter all right, but it doesn't seem to connect... it's a zd1211
[04:41] <mrsol> can anybody help
[04:42] <maxtnk> thank you all
[04:42] <Kr0ntab> mrsol: what wireless security are ya using.   WEP?  or just open?
[04:43] <eriksti> gnomefreak: I can only find something about localhost under a "windows only" problem
[04:43] <mrsol> Kr0ntab, i was using wep, but since it didn't work i changed it to open
[04:43] <sophtpaw> matid: just received your invite!
[04:43] <mrsol> also, i tried both dhcp and manually set ip
[04:44] <sophtpaw> d'you read me?
[04:44] <gnomefreak> eriksti, sorry i just skimmed it because im doing something else and that happen to catch my eye
[04:44] <Kr0ntab> ok... where are you configuring your wireless card from...  the graphical tool "network-admin"?  or from command line
[04:44] <mrsol> network-admin
[04:44] <mrsol> but i'm not scared of the command line
[04:45] <Kr0ntab> mrsol: cool... we'll try both... but.. from network-admin do you see the access points ssid from your list?
[04:45] <mrsol> yep
[04:46] <Kr0ntab> ok.. lets open a command line...
[04:46] <mrsol> oh, btw, the difficult part is that this computer and the ubuntu box are sharing a monitor
[04:46] <Kr0ntab> eh np..
[04:46] <gorski> i cannot convert .rpm files to .deb, please help me!
[04:46] <brasko> hi all, what media player should I have firefox use to view mpg's?
[04:46] <brasko> totem, the default, doesn't seem to work.
[04:46] <mrsol> tell me, what should i do in the command line, Kr0ntab
[04:47] <Blippe> matthewjames, sorry about not answering my phone rang and my grandparents had computerproblems!
[04:47] <Kr0ntab> mrsol: iwconfig  command...
[04:47] <mrsol> yeah, i tried iwconfig too
[04:47] <Kr0ntab> mrsol: we need to see if yer card is associated....
[04:48] <mrsol> it was there
[04:48] <matthewjames> Hey gnomefresk
[04:48] <Sh4d0x> guys can someone help me?? pls??!!
[04:48] <matthewjames> that did not work
[04:48] <Kr0ntab> im assuming the other computer isn't even on a local network right now so we can have you paste from there?
[04:48] <nut543> Does anyone know why i cannot reach any sites with IE in wine? i used to could do that..
[04:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> nut543: why would you use IE at all?
[04:49] <Sh4d0x> earth to #ubuntu??
[04:49] <matthewjames> Gnomefreak: that did not work, any other ideas?
[04:49] <_pato_> ie ... lol
[04:49] <nut543> some sites only work with ie..
[04:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> _pato_: yea lmfao
[04:49] <picasso> some people need to use different browsers to test web pages, too
[04:49] <mrsol> Kr0ntab, the other computer is not on a lan, that's right, so i can't paste
[04:49] <greenpenguin13> eugh ie
[04:49] <greenpenguin13> web designers need IE
[04:50] <bretzel> I am sorry but I know nothing about how to make apache2 to response to "https" instead of "http" SSL stuff seems not really suported in UBuntu isn't it ?
[04:50] <Sh4d0x> can someone help me???
[04:50] <matthewjames> Gnomefreak: u there?
[04:50] <nbound> for the best results what should my multimedia systems selector be set to?
[04:50] <ompaul> !anyone
[04:50] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[04:50] <matthewjames> anyone here who has had xserver problems, and got it fixed?
[04:50] <gorski> i cannot convert .rpm files to .deb, please help me!
[04:50] <nbound> gorksi watch wat ubotu says
[04:50] <nbound> !alien
[04:50] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[04:50] <Sh4d0x> ompaul, you just made yourself victim of my question :p
[04:51] <ompaul> Sh4d0x, no I did not ask the channel
[04:51] <matthewjames> anyone here who has had xserver problems, and got it fixed? If so, can u help me?
[04:51] <nbound> for the best results what should my multimedia systems selector be set to??????
[04:51] <nbound> matthewjames, what kind?
[04:51] <Sh4d0x> *sigh
[04:51] <ompaul> matthewjames, explain with more detail "xserver problems" are wide in range
[04:52] <nbound> VERY wide ;)
[04:52] <visik7> hi
[04:52] <ompaul> nbound, no wider than that
[04:52] <estradin> Kr0ntab, wait a sec please, i need to register my nick so i can msg
[04:52] <deefzi> shouldn't HDD-1 on bios mean "IDE-1 Slave"
[04:52] <noooonie> quit
[04:52] <nbound> massively wide perhaps =P
[04:52] <matthewjames> error when going to login screen, it blinks 3 times, and says xserver is now disabled, please restart GDM when this is fixed, this aldo causes me not able to do startx
[04:52] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me how to stop ubuntu from openening 2 folders at the start up??
[04:52] <nbound> deefzi, yes usually
[04:52] <visik7> I'v installed linux-source-2.6.12 there is a linux-patches in /usr/src seems to be some automatic patch
[04:52] <deefzi> cause i want to boot from ide-1 slave (grub & ubuntu there) but it just boots my ide-1 master, which windows is on
[04:52] <visik7> how can I apply those patches ?
[04:53] <matthewjames> Nbound: error when going to login screen, it blinks 3 times, and says xserver is now disabled, please restart GDM when this is fixed, this aldo causes me not able to do startx
[04:53] <nbound> deefzi, try hdd2 then
[04:53] <Paradosso> hi everybody
[04:53] <nbound> matthewjames, thats a botched video driver install by the sounds of it
[04:53] <deefzi> nbound, moving the harddrive on HDD2 or trying just to make HDD-2 bootable
[04:53] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me how to stop ubuntu from openening 2 folders at the start up??
[04:53] <nbound> deefzi, the latter
[04:54] <matthewjames> Nbound: how fix this?
[04:54] <Paradosso> I have libssl 0.9.7g-1ubuntu1.1 installed, but I can't find the corresponding -dev in the repositories
[04:54] <nbound> matthewjames, load your back xorg.conf file
[04:54] <Paradosso> therefore, I can't install libssl-dev
[04:54] <Paradosso> any hints?
[04:54] <nbound> backup*
[04:54] <matthewjames> i cant
[04:54] <nbound> errr?
[04:54] <deefzi> nbound, i figured. my bios offers HDD-0 through HDD-4 bootable, but it also offers from CDROM to be booted
[04:54] <matthewjames> not have permission
[04:54] <Sh4d0x> can someone tell me how to stop ubuntu from openening 2 folders at the start up??
[04:54] <topyli> Sh4d0x: i guess you have saved a session with those two folders open. next time you logout, check that you have nothing open and save the session
[04:54] <deefzi> nbound, although i have all my four ides used
[04:54] <matthewjames> Nbound: i dont have permission to
[04:54] <selinium> Hi all, my /usr/dhare/dict/words is a broken link. How can I relink it?
[04:55] <nbound> deefzi, hmmm is there an option where u can use boot order, and it will show the actual drive names
[04:55] <nbound> matthewjames, become sudo
[04:55] <topyli> Sh4d0x: please don't repeat yourself. surely your attention span must be more than 1 minute
[04:55] <matthewjames> k
[04:55] <Sh4d0x> topyli, thnx, seems there do are some friendly people in here, *respect*
[04:55] <deefzi> nbound, you sure? i have epox 8rda+
[04:55] <steve_> how do I rename a file as root?
[04:55] <deefzi> nbound, the only boot-order i get is where it has "floppy, cd, lan, hdd-0->4 and disabled"
[04:55] <nbound> deefzi, there should be on most boards it will look like:
[04:55] <matthewjames> Nbound: what command i type to load xserver.xorg.config?
[04:55] <topyli> Sh4d0x: only friendly people on #ubuntu i'm sure :)
[04:55] <nvez> how can I view disc statistics (space used, etc)
[04:55] <nbound> 1 <hdd name>
[04:55] <nbound> 2<hddname>
[04:55] <KrulleTrap> sudo mv old new
[04:56] <selinium> 'lo topyli  :)
[04:56] <Storkme> is it possible to configure the special keys on my keyboard (for music playing, eg play, pause, stop) to work with XMMS?
[04:56] <matthewjames> Nbound: what command i type to load xserver.xorg.config?
[04:56] <nbound> 3<mem stick if plugged in at boot>
[04:56] <deefzi> nbound, what do you mean by HDD name? the actual HDD name (in my case STT[some cryptic numbers]  cause it's a seagate?)
[04:56] <selinium> Storkme, Yep System/prefs/keyboard shortcuts!
[04:56] <deefzi> nbound, afaik my epox doesn't support that :-/
[04:56] <Sh4d0x> topyli, sometimes yes, sometimes ... ;) anyway, i'll go check your solution, thnQ very much xxx
[04:56] <matthewjames> Nbound: what command i type to load xserver.xorg.config?
[04:56] <Sh4d0x> cheersly'z
[04:56] <deefzi> matthewjames, startx?
[04:57] <matthewjames> it dont work
[04:57] <nbound> matthewjames, sudo nano etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:57] <nbound> BUT
[04:57] <Storkme> selinium, thanks. that's really cool :D
[04:57] <nbound> u want to copy the backup that the driver install made over that
[04:57] <selinium> Storkme, No problems! :)
[04:57] <matthewjames> how?
[04:57] <arkanes> I know the bot has this but I can't remember how to make it work, anyone have a like to repositories for mp3 and dvd playback?
[04:58] <nbound> so: cp  etc/X11/xorg.conf.backup etc/X11/xorg.conf (i THINK thats it)
[04:58] <Storkme> selinium, hmm, it didn't work :\
[04:58] <topyli> selinium: hiya
[04:58] <__null__> question: Is there any way to have the file chooser dialog remember its size?
[04:58] <selinium> Storkme, WHY NOT, WHAT DID IT DO?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> it feels good to be back in ubuntu :)
[04:58] <Storkme> selinium, what music player would that work with? because it didn't work for xmms
[04:58] <nbound> deefzi, u could always swap ur slave and master around
[04:58] <selinium> Sorry, caps lock
[04:58] <selinium> Storkme, It works for XMMS, i use it myself!
[04:58] <nbound> deefzi, BUT that would require grub tinkering to get shit back in order =P
[04:59] <gnomefreak> anyone know if recofigureing xserver fixed matthew?
[05:00] <Storkme> selinium, it says for stopping audo, "X86AudioStop"
[05:00] <Storkme> selinium, it says for stopping audo, "XF86AudioStop" 8
[05:00] <nbound> gnomefreak, i got him to copy his backup xorg over his current one
[05:00] <nbound> gnomefreak, it sounded like a bnotched nvidia driver install
[05:00] <nbound> botched*
[05:00] <gnomefreak> ty nbound i was having issues in win
[05:00] <selinium> Storkme, It uses the same kind of thing with my logitech keyboard. It works fine for me.
[05:00] <nbound> gnomefreak, no worries =)
[05:01] <Storkme> selinium, curious. do i need to restart xmms maybe?
[05:01] <selinium> Storkme, is yours a Logitech?
[05:01] <Storkme> selinium, packard bell
[05:01] <rabbit> how do you get multiple desktops so that you can "push" your mouse against the edge of the screen to switch???
[05:01] <selinium> Storkme, OK. Possibly, but I dont understand why itshould just work!
[05:02] <selinium> Storkme, s/should/shouldn't   :)
[05:02] <nbound> deefzi, before u try to install those nvidia drivers again, remove and purge your "linux-restricted-modules" all of them, they have pesky conflicting old nvidia stuff in them =P
[05:02] <selinium> Storkme,  Let me try wioth this keyboard
[05:02] <Storkme> not fair
[05:02] <nbound> deefzi, and trust me it took several reinstalls to figure that out =P
[05:03] <mOOx> Hi there ! I wnat to create an ubuntu package for eclipse. This package will not be make from sources but from the binary found on the eclipse website. Have yo a good tutorial to make a .deb from some files and not from sources ?
[05:03] <nbound> oops, wrong person lmao
[05:03] <vk> im going to buy a wlan PC card for my laptop, does anyone know a card that work well (easy installation to) with ubuntu
[05:04] <blekos> is there a way to make a windows partition writeable?
[05:04] <topyli> blekos: no safe way for ntfs. fat32 works fine
[05:04] <gnomefreak> blekos, ntfs or fat?
[05:04] <mOOx> blekos: is your partition formatted in ntfs ?
[05:04] <selinium> Storkme, You are clicking the 'key' you want to change then clicking the corresponding keyboard key?
[05:04] <blekos> ntfs
[05:04] <nbound> wine runs dos apps too?
[05:04] <gnomefreak> ntfs is not recommened to be writable
[05:04] <mjr> nbound, well, it has some limited dos support
[05:04] <mOOx> blekos: no, write on a ntfs partition is not safe currently
[05:04] <gnomefreak> !ntfs
[05:04] <Storkme> selinium, i can see on the table that it's been changed
[05:04] <ubotu> somebody said ntfs was the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:05] <steve_> When I trying to run syaptic I get the error message: "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic as user roor: Unable to copy user's Xauthorization file." Help :|
[05:05] <blekos> basically i'm interested in deleting and not writing...
[05:05] <nbound> mjr, oh ok, so dosbox still the best choice?
[05:05] <deefzi> nbound, you mean by virtual swapping putted in grub?
[05:05] <mjr> nbound, probably
[05:05] <selinium> Storkme, have you any other audio software opon?
[05:05] <blekos> i'm trying 2 move from win 2 lin
[05:05] <deefzi> nbound, i was told to do that earlier, but a friend of mine suggested me to swap windows HD to HDA and linux to HDB and set bios to boot from HDB
[05:05] <selinium> Storkme, *open
[05:05] <Storkme> selinium, just xmms
[05:05] <nut543> blekos, you can use captive-ntfs
[05:05] <nbound> deefzi, physical, then fixing grub up
[05:05] <deefzi> nbound, why would i have to reinstall nvidia drivers? :-)
[05:06] <selinium> Storkme, bizarre!
[05:06] <nut543> and fusemount in the ntfsprogs package
[05:06] <nbound> deefzi, i was calling someone else you
[05:06] <nbound> deefzi, by accident
[05:06] <Storkme> selinium, don't worry, ubuntu hates me. i've had so many wierd unexplainable problems with it
[05:06] <deefzi> oh :-)
[05:06] <nut543> but fusemount might or might noit be able to delete all the files that you want...
[05:06] <nut543> so go for captive-ntfs
[05:06] <nbound> =P so confusing helping ppl sometimes
[05:06] <vk> ive deleted the panel feat applications, places etc. how to get it back?
[05:06] <steve_> I know that if I restart my computer now I will have to reinstall ubuntu, please help me.
[05:06] <selinium> Storkme, Strange it has run smoother than windoze for me! :)
[05:06] <nut543> which has no package... so you have to install it manually event though that prolly scares you as a noob?
[05:07] <deefzi> nbound, what do you think if i set both HDs as masters on different cables?
[05:07] <visik7> I'v installed linux-source-2.6.12 there is a linux-patches in /usr/src seems to be some automatic patch
[05:07] <visik7> how can I apply those patches ?
[05:07] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i find an lost file transferred by XChat
[05:07] <selinium> steve_ there is a way round it, but I cant remember it.
[05:07] <nbound> deefzi, could work, once again you'd have to edit grub so it knows the new positions
[05:07] <Storkme> selinium, you're making me jealous :\
[05:07] <CactusWiZaRd> i can't find it with search :/
[05:08] <Keyseir> _jason, The command you sent me lead me to libqt4-dev and libqt3-mt-dev. Those installed sucessfully. I ran ./configure and got the exact same error again though.
[05:08] <deefzi> nbound, of course. but the problem why i can't get windows booted when i get on linux is that windows seems to require itself being as HDA or any master or somekinda that
[05:08] <nbound> visik7, they are probly applied already
[05:08] <nvez> anyone can link me on howto use wmvs on linux?
[05:08] <selinium> Storkme, Sorry, maybe if you restart gnome.... Ctrl-Alt-Backspace... ? You wil need to save anything you are doing...
[05:08] <glick> excuse me does anyone know how to correct the teleporting mouse pointer problem where the mouse pointer just teleports to the far corner of the screen?
[05:08] <Storkme> saving is for n00bs
[05:08] <steve_> what is a Xauthorization file?
[05:09] <nbound> well u could shrink the windows partition on hda, and use the spare space for ubuntu
[05:09] <funkyHat> !tell nvez about mp3
[05:09] <rabbit> how do you get multiple desktops so that you can "push" your mouse against the edge of the screen to switch???
[05:09] <nbound> then both are happy
[05:09] <gnomefreak> saving is for smart people that dont wanna lose everythng :)
[05:09] <Keyseir> Are you there _jason?
[05:09] <funkyHat> nvez, there's a bit about wmv videos on there
[05:09] <selinium> gnomefreak, indeed!
[05:09] <nbound> rabbit, ur too lazy to click a box?
[05:09] <gnomefreak> lol @ nbound
[05:10] <rabbit> nbound,  heck yes
[05:10] <nbound> =P even im not that lazy
[05:10] <gorski> i cannot convert .rpm files to .deb, please help me!
[05:10] <rabbit> nbound,  I can't find the preferences
[05:10] <funkyHat> nbound, hell, I'm too lazy to click to change focus between windows!
[05:10] <selinium> gorski, alien /path/to/rpm/
[05:10] <gnomefreak> gorski, what are you trying to install and why not look for a deb?
[05:10] <gnomefreak> !alien
[05:10] <ubotu> from memory, alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:10] <nbound> funkyHat, thank the big fella for alt+tab
[05:11] <funkyHat> nbound, thank him for x-mouse too :-P
[05:11] <nbound> funkyHat, xmouse??? enlighten me...
[05:11] <glick> anyone have any idea about the mouse problem? cause its REALLY annoying
[05:11] <gnomefreak> isnt that eyecandy for mouse?
[05:11] <gorski> i try to install printer drivers for canoniP1000.
[05:11] <funkyHat> nbound, go to system > preferences > windows
[05:11] <_jason> Keyseir, are you on kde?
[05:11] <gnomefreak> like trails and stuff?
[05:11] <arkanes> rabbit: look for something called "edge flipping", but I don't know if sawfish supports it. You can have it if you switch to KDE :P
[05:12] <Keyseir> _jason, no, Gnome.
[05:12] <Storkme> selinium, no luck
[05:12] <funkyHat> gnomefreak, nbound, sorry, it's only called x-mouse on Windows I think, it doesn't have a name in X
[05:12] <dfgas> why do my sounds stop working in alsa after a bit
[05:12] <_jason> Keyseir, you might just need the actual libraries installed.  but you should have those if you installed some other kde app, have you?
[05:12] <gorski> alien makes the directory from .rpm package but it does not convert the directory into .deb!
[05:12] <dfgas> this is driving me nuts
[05:12] <nbound> funkyHat, i take it ur talking bout "slect windows when mouse over"
[05:12] <funkyHat> nbound, ya
[05:12] <arkanes> the "x-mouse" setting in Windows is called that because it makes the mouse act like it did on X-Windows back when they named it
[05:13] <nbound> funkyHat, hahaha lazy bugger =P
[05:13] <dfgas> never did that in fedora
[05:13] <topyli> rabbit: there's an addon for metacity to do that but i forget its name
[05:13] <spike> hi there
[05:13] <selinium> Storkme, Sorry, dont know what else to do. Do you have a volume control?
[05:13] <funkyHat> nbound, I like it, but unfortunately gnome's support for it is crap compared to KDE's :(
[05:13] <rabbit> topyli: metacity?
[05:13] <spike> is there any xml-rpc/email CLI that can interface with the forum?
[05:13] <Storkme> selinium, indeed i do
[05:13] <Keyseir> _jason, I have kde applications installed and I went out of my way to install the kde base stuff.
[05:13] <selinium> Set that up, does that work?
[05:13] <arkanes> funkyHat: its in System->Preferences->Windows
[05:13] <immolo> heya, I'm about to do an install of ubuntu for a user with dialup so I'm wondering if there is such thing as an update cd or away I can download some of the repo to save some time that end
[05:13] <topyli> rabbit: yes, metacity is the default gnome window manager
[05:13] <CactusWiZaRd> hey
[05:13] <Stork> selinium, sorry about that, x-chat just closed itself
[05:13] <funkyHat> arkanes, yes, I know, but there aren't enough options there
[05:14] <selinium> Stork, np
[05:14] <nbound> funkyHat, you gotta wonder who could have so many apps running simultaneously to require 4 desktops
[05:14] <Stork> selinium, but yes, volume control works fine
[05:14] <topyli> rabbit: and being metacity, it's very simple and doesn't have all the cool features some other window managers have
[05:14] <arkanes> funkyHat: you're pretty much out of luck if you want more features than is shown in the dialog
[05:14] <funkyHat> arkanes, I have it set to raise the window after 0.5 seconds, but it focuses immediately
[05:14] <arkanes> funkyHat: you need a different window manager
[05:14] <funkyHat> arkanes, yea, I know :(
[05:14] <funkyHat> nbound, I do :P
[05:15] <arkanes> funkyHat: you're misreading the option
[05:15] <nbound> funkyHat, lol
[05:15] <rabbit> topyli: so I can add to it eh
[05:15] <arkanes> funkyHat: the timer is to raise *selected* windows after an interval
[05:15] <funkyHat> arkanes, I'm not misreading the option, I know what I want and I know what it can't do ;)
[05:15] <arkanes> not to delay the raise on mouseover
[05:15] <selinium> Stork, OK, the problem is that something is taking presedence over xmms when you are clicking the keys. try using the keys when the XMMS is the 'in-use' app
[05:15] <sekhar> jason how to play mpeg,avi,wmv in ubuntu?
[05:15] <_jason> ubotu, tell sekhar about multimedia
[05:15] <Storkme> selinium, could it be that my keyboard layout isn't configured properly?
[05:15] <funkyHat> I realise that I can't do what I want with metacity, I bitch about it frequently :P
[05:16] <nbound> ubotu, tell sekhar about restricted formats
[05:16] <arkanes> funkyHat: Oh, I thought you were looking for a solution, not complaining :P
[05:16] <topyli> rabbit: found it: http://catmur.co.uk/~ed/main/brightside/
[05:16] <selinium> Storkme, No, you are assigning the key to the action, you could assign any key.
[05:16] <nvez> "The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector." < Error gives me Totem when starting.. any idea?
[05:16] <glick> anyone have similar problems with optical mice as i am having?
[05:16] <nvez> and I am not running anything that is using video
[05:16] <nvez> either audio.
[05:16] <glick> that it teleports
[05:16] <topyli> rabbit: or just use another window manager if you like
[05:16] <nbound> nvez, install a video card driver
[05:17] <Storkme> selinium, yeah, because the keyboard shortcuts menu accepts the key i type in
[05:17] <nvez> is there a package of ati drivers somewhere?
[05:17] <selinium> Storkme, Sorry, I have to go now. I am already running late!
[05:17] <glick> teleports across the screen
[05:17] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nvez about ati
[05:17] <glick> its really annoying
[05:17] <nbound> nvez, fglrx
[05:17] <Storkme> selinium, ok, thanks for the help. bye!
[05:17] <nbound> !fglrx
[05:17] <ubotu> rumour has it, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:17] <selinium> Storkme, So it is what you type... so it is correctly set up
[05:17] <armosfighter> I'm new to linux and i was wondering do i need file manager to install programs?
[05:18] <selinium> Storkme, np cyu later
[05:18] <nbound> armosfighter, nopr =)
[05:18] <nbound> nope*
[05:18] <armosfighter> k
[05:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell armosfighter about synaptic
[05:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell armosfighter about apt
[05:18] <funkyHat> arkanes, yeah, hehe. It sucks though... maybe it wouldn't be too hard to write a patch that would add the option... I doubt that it would be accepted by the metacity devs though :( 'keep it simple' is pretty annoying sometimes
[05:18] <Keyseir> _jason, what should I try next?
[05:18] <Nihil85> hi! i have a lot of problems with Ubuntu! i can't connect to internet even if i do sudo pppoeconf and pon. what can i do?
[05:18] <_jason> Keyseir, I jsut tried configuring it here and got the same thing, hold on
[05:19] <Keyseir> _jason, k
[05:19] <nbound> Nihil85, u using an adsl modem or using a modem/router over ethernet?
[05:19] <nvez> nbound, " If you own an ATI card that is not on this list, you already have accelerated 3D." -- Mine is a 7500, so I don't need drivers..
[05:19] <rabbit> topyli:  what other window managers are included with ubuntu??
[05:19] <Nihil85> nbound, i'm using an ethernet adsl modem
[05:20] <rabbit> topyli:  how do I switch?
[05:20] <nbound> nvez, hmm u could try the ones direct from ATI, but they are trickier to install
[05:20] <topyli> rabbit: there must be 20 or so :)
[05:20] <nvez> well the REAL error is saying
[05:20] <rabbit> topyli:  how do I switch?
[05:20] <nvez> (totem:11580): Gtk-CRITICAL **: gtk_accel_label_set_accel_closure: assertion `gtk_accel_group_from_accel_closure (accel_closure) != NULL' failed
[05:20] <gnomefreak> they are a pita to install :(
[05:20] <topyli> rabbit: sawfish and openbox are the most popular for use with gnome
[05:20] <nbound> Nihil85, does ifconfig show an eth0 device?
[05:20] <Nihil85> nbound, yes
[05:21] <nut543> Which file/how do i switch window manager with gnome?
[05:21] <topyli> rabbit: once you have installed, say, sawfish, just do "killall metacity && sawfish &" in a terminal. logout, and save the session
[05:21] <Storkme> can anyone recommend to me a decent gnome music player which handles .m3u playlists over http?
[05:21] <nbound> Nihil85, and ur not getting any internet??? hmm, what ethernet are u using?
[05:21] <gnomefreak> !restricted
[05:21] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[05:22] <nvez> whats the best video player out there
[05:22] <nbound> Stork, xmms should (i think)
[05:22] <nvez> because totem... :<
[05:22] <Keyseir> Storkme, amaroK handles m3u playlists and works under gnome. What do you mean by over http?
[05:22] <Storkme> nvez, mplayer owns
[05:22] <rabbit> topyli:  I have to get these from the repository?
[05:22] <nvez> well
[05:22] <Nihil85> nbound, i'm using eth0.
[05:22] <nbound> nvez, totem works fine
[05:22] <nvez> Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[05:22] <nvez> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[05:22] <nvez> is only available from another source
[05:22] <nvez> E: Package mplayer has no installation candidate
[05:22] <nvez> :x
[05:22] <nbound> but there are others
[05:22] <Storkme> Keyseir, the music is residing on my gnump3d server
[05:22] <nvez> Nihil85, did you set the nameservers?
[05:22] <nvez> I had the same problem
[05:22] <nvez> can you ping local ips though?
[05:22] <nbound> Nihil85, no what make and model is ur card?
[05:22] <topyli> rabbit: yea, metacity and openbox should be available in universe
[05:22] <Nihil85> nvez, i don't know nameserver
[05:23] <nvez> so no local connection?
[05:23] <_jason> nvez, do you multiverse enabled?
[05:23] <Keyseir> nvez, VLC installs easily under Gnome and supports pretty much everything with the proper plugins. MPlayer is a bit more difficult to get going. Just apt-get vlc.
[05:23] <Storkme> nbound, yes, i have xmms at the mo, but it isn't responding to my keyboard shortcuts, so i want to try with a different player
[05:23] <nvez> _jason, have all enabled.
[05:23] <topyli> rabbit: not metacity. it's already installed and you're running it. sawfish and openbox :)
[05:23] <Nihil85> nbound, this is the ethernet card from an Acer Aspire 1682 wmli
[05:23] <Nihil85> a laptopo
[05:23] <_jason> nvez, apt-get update, if it still fails please pastebin sources.list
[05:23] <nbound> Stork, try mplayer or vlc
[05:24] <nbound> storkme*
[05:24] <Storkme> isn't mplayer for videos?
[05:24] <nbound> Nihil85, do u know what driver its loading for it?
[05:24] <gorski> ruut, jesi li pogledao potu, please.
[05:24] <_jason> nvez, and what are you installing?
[05:24] <nbound> Storkme, id imagine it would play music too with visualisation like totem, i could be wrong
[05:24] <Nihil85> i don't know at this moment. i should reboot with Ubuntu and take this information
[05:25] <Nihil85> nbound
[05:25] <topyli> Storkme: not many players obey the gnome keystrokes. rhythmbox, totem, maybe muine and bmp too
[05:25] <rabbit> topyli:  those two support "edge flipping" ?
[05:25] <gnomefreak> _jason, i think hes the ati install
[05:25] <Storkme> ah
[05:25] <rabbit> topyli:  it's still the same gnome theme right?
[05:25] <nbound> Nihil85, just wait a sec
[05:25] <gnomefreak> i thought he was :(
[05:25] <Storkme> how long would it take to install everything good on the repositories :)
[05:25] <Nihil85> nvez, you had the same problem, but i don't know the nameservers.how did you solve that problem?
[05:26] <gnomefreak> nvez, are you installing mplayer?
[05:26] <topyli> rabbit: i know sawfish does support it. and yes, the applications will have the same look, but the title bar and the window borders will be different
[05:26] <nbound> Nihil85, ok do it
[05:26] <nbound> (just had to check something)
[05:26] <Nihil85> nbound, i have to reboot?
[05:27] <rabbit> topyli:  in the command you gave me, what's the last & do?
[05:27] <nbound> Nihil85, did u get any probs with autoconfiguration of the network during install?
[05:27] <nbound> Nihil85, answer that q first :)
[05:27] <topyli> rabbit: it puts the command in the background so the sawfish process doesn't die when you close the terminal window
[05:27] <Nihil85> nbound, yes, i did
[05:27] <rabbit> topyli:  aha..  cool
[05:27] <nbound> Nihil85, did u retry it?
[05:27] <rabbit> topyli:  thanks!
[05:28] <nbound> Nihil85, until it worked?
[05:28] <topyli> rabbit: np. happy hacking
[05:28] <Nihil85> nbound, my connection works a day yes, a day not... it's like it has a poltergeist inside... yesterday it worked, now it doesn't. tomorrow we'll see
[05:28] <beelzebub1987> Hello, someone here who's used GnomeBaker before: when you have a bin file and a cue file, do you burn the cue or the bin as an image?
[05:29] <nbound> Nihil85, is dhcp enabled?
[05:29] <Nihil85> nbound, yes. but i've also tried with a static ip address
[05:29] <nbound> beelzebub1987, the bigger one =P
[05:29] <armosfighter> how do i install programs.... : (
[05:29] <gnomefreak> armosfighter, what program
[05:29] <aggressor> !game
[05:29] <ubotu> aggressor: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:29] <armosfighter> divx
[05:29] <aggressor> !games
[05:29] <_jason> Keyseir, I don't know, it won't work here either.  Try asking in #kubuntu, more people will probably have more experience with working with qt
[05:29] <beelzebub1987> Thanks nbound =)
[05:29] <gnomefreak> open synaptic and search for it
[05:29] <ubotu> somebody said games was http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5153 or http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php and http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Loki_Installers_for_Linux_Gamers  News http://www.linux-gamers.net/
[05:30] <nbound> Nihil85, hmmm strange
[05:30] <beelzebub1987> so Bin it is.
[05:30] <Nihil85> nbound, this is not the only problem
[05:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell armosfighter about divx
[05:30] <nbound> Nihil85, if u did a reinstall and made it go over and over till it configured it would probably fix it
[05:30] <Keyseir> _jason, I'll try that. Thanks for your help.
[05:30] <gorski> i cannot convert .rpm to .deb, can somebody help me, i would send him .rpm files (1,5Mb), and he turn me in .deb format, please!
[05:31] <nbound> Nihil85, or do net-setup
[05:31] <com-guy> hello
[05:31] <nbound> ubotu tell gorski about alien
[05:31] <gnomefreak> gorski, look for a deb?
[05:31] <nbound> and for anyone else
[05:31] <Nihil85> nbound, i can't watch wmv movies even if i installed correctly every possible codec or player. I can't access SharedFOlders, there's an error that freeze the windows. When the connection works, i have to do pppoeconf very time to initialize the connection, and it was very slow.
[05:32] <nbound> !alien
[05:32] <ubotu> methinks alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[05:32] <com-guy> is there anyone here that has time to help a linux newbie
[05:32] <deFrysk> !anyone
[05:32] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[05:32] <gnomefreak> com-guy, with what?
[05:32] <Nihil85> nbound, in the other pc i've upgraded the kernel ith the new version, and now my Nvidia doesn't work at all
[05:32] <Stork> NEVER
[05:32] <nbound> Nihil85, u need video card drivers, u cant access shared folders without samba
[05:33] <com-guy> k.....
[05:33] <nbound> Nihil85, get rid of the 'restricted-modules' on the new machine and put on the driver from nvidia
[05:33] <Nihil85> nbound, i've installed samba, i've installed driver... now the nvidia kernel module doesn't work.
[05:33] <HiTiT> How to use clamav??
[05:33] <HiTiT> i cant run it
[05:33] <CarinArr> nihil85, make sure if you install the drivers from nvidia you completely purge the nvidia related packages.. uninstalling isn't always enough
[05:34] <gnomefreak> you dont need it :(
[05:34] <gnomefreak> !clamav
[05:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, gnomefreak
[05:34] <HiTiT> IVE DOWNLOADED IT...
[05:34] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, it should be in your menu
[05:34] <HiTiT> but howto use it?
[05:34] <Nihil85> CarinArr, it's always so when you upgrade the kernel? taht you have to do this to your video card drivers?
[05:34] <_jason> Keyseir, so you know, I just tried the beta and it configures fine
[05:34] <nbound> Nihil85, thats coz u tryed to install the nvidia driver with the restricted-modules packages still installed u must REMOVE AND PURGE them ALL
[05:34] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: nope
[05:34] <deFrysk> HiTiT, clamscan /path/to/folder/
[05:35] <com-guy> i got out of bed yesturday and decided i was going to learn linux.  i've used some of the tutorialon linux.org and a few others.  i've downloaded Ubuntu and successfully installede it in server mode.
[05:35] <nbound> Nihil85, restricted-modules ARE YOUR ENEMY =P
[05:35] <CarinArr> nihil85, i don't know.. after i upgraded from 12-9 to 12-10 i can't get the packaged drivers working
[05:35] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, first off its not needed sec off if its not in menu restart gnome it should be there
[05:35] <deFrysk> HiTiT, expect to find anything ?
[05:35] <_jason> Keyseir, if you can't get the stable to work, you may want to try it http://www.kmuddy.net/
[05:35] <nbound> com-guy, good work =)
[05:35] <Nihil85> nbound, i've done this the last time... before i upgraded the kernel. i done upgrade 3 days ago
[05:35] <HiTiT> : 10x:) deFrysk
[05:36] <CarinArr> nihil85, to be honest, in the long run it's probably easier to use the nvidia .run package
[05:36] <nbound> Nihil85, id say ud have to use the nvidia install to compile a kernel module for the new kernel
[05:36] <Keyseir> _jason, the KMuddy beta is installing easier then the stable?
[05:36] <HiTiT> deFrysk: I dunno I need max security, i want to buy somthin in ebay
[05:36] <com-guy> i figured out how to download via command line and got apache and sendmail.  however when i go to install apache i get a 'NO SUITABLE C COMPILER" erro
[05:36] <nbound> CarinArr, he is =P
[05:36] <deFrysk> HiTiT, have fun , and let me know if(when) you find something
[05:36] <_jason> Keyseir, it configures without error.  I didn't compile it
[05:36] <HiTiT> deFrysk: what should i do to get it?
[05:36] <HiTiT> deFrysk(to get ax security
[05:36] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, clamav doesnt stop hackers all it is is a virus scan
[05:36] <nbound> com-guy, apt-get install gcc-4.0
[05:36] <HiTiT> )
[05:37] <butcherbird> com-guy: why not apt-get t?
[05:37] <deFrysk> HiTiT, to get a virus ?
[05:37] <Nihil85> nbound, CarinArr, i have to do this operation every time i upgrade the kernel?
[05:37] <gnomefreak> !virus
[05:37] <ubotu> gnomefreak: I give up, what is it?
[05:37] <com-guy> hmmm, k   brb
[05:37] <HiTiT> deFrysk: so firestarter is good>
[05:37] <nbound> Nihil85, i dont know =P i dont think so =/
[05:37] <deFrysk> HiTiT, are you running a server ?
[05:37] <no0tic> nbound, yes
[05:37] <nbound> Nihil85, what no0tic said =P
[05:37] <HiTiT> deFrysk: nope
[05:37] <Nihil85> nbound, the operation you told me to do, i did it 2 months ago. now why i should do it again? It's absurd!
[05:37] <no0tic> Nihil85, yes, modules are compiled against the specific kernel you are running
[05:38] <bolsh> Hi
[05:38] <deFrysk> HiTiT, then you do not need a firewall afaIk
[05:38] <bolsh> Anyone here a PPC user?
[05:38] <Keyseir> _jason, thansk
[05:38] <nbound> Nihil85, its not that hard =P
[05:38] <nbound> takes like 1minute
[05:38] <bolsh> I'd like to have access to existing data on mac partitions (HFS+)
[05:38] <no0tic> Nihil85, so you have to recompile external modules every time you change kernel version
[05:38] <HiTiT> deFrysk: i NEED FIREWALL , so i can browse ebay without beeing afraid that someone will steal my credit cars
[05:39] <HiTiT> deFrysk: what should I do
[05:39] <HiTiT> ?
[05:39] <Nihil85> no0tic, so every kernel changing causes these problems. I got it
[05:39] <nbound> HiTiT, firestarter?
[05:39] <deFrysk> HiTiT, again a firewall is not needed
[05:39] <kasemodz> has anyone upgraded linux headers?
[05:39] <kasemodz> i need some help with that.
[05:39] <no0tic> Nihil85, but there aren't so many kernel patches on stable releases
[05:39] <nbound> HiTiT, if u think someone is out to get your credit cards, u make me laugh =P
[05:39] <HiTiT> deFrysk: so I can now write my credit.. and its OK.. noone can see it..:S:S:?
[05:40] <Nihil85> nbound, i know that it takes a short time, i will do this
[05:40] <gnomefreak> all firestarter is is a front end to the firewall that is built into the kernel
[05:40] <gnomefreak> iptables=firewall
[05:40] <kasemodz> i installed linux-headers 2.6.12-10
[05:40] <HiTiT> o.. so i dunt need anything/??
[05:40] <kasemodz> i have 2.6.12-9
[05:40] <Nihil85> no0tic, so it could be an unstable version of linux?
[05:40] <nbound> HiTiT, there is a builtin fire wall (gnomefreak just old me)
[05:40] <deFrysk> HiTiT, someone whowil try to get access wil get no further then a "for lack of a better word" empty room with no doors
[05:40] <kasemodz> how do i upgrade to 2.6.12-10
[05:40] <Nihil85> *?
[05:41] <no0tic> Nihil85, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell HiTiT about iptables
[05:41] <kasemodz> whenever i reboot i'm still running 2.6.12-9
[05:41] <nbound> kasemodz, it should do it automagically
[05:41] <kasemodz> hmm
[05:41] <kasemodz> well in /lib/modules
[05:41] <HiTiT> deFrysk, gnomefreak:OK thanks
[05:41] <gnomefreak> yw
[05:41] <kasemodz> it created its own folders
[05:41] <nbound> HiTiT, what about me =/
[05:41] <kasemodz> and when i reboot and type uname -r
[05:41] <deFrysk> HiTiT, visa versa ;)
[05:41] <kasemodz> it says 2.6.12-9
[05:41] <Nihil85> no0tic, i'm using 5.10 breezy, but i don't know what's the linux kernel version because i'm running windows at this time and i can't check the right version
[05:42] <HiTiT> nbound: sorry:) u too thank u very much
[05:42] <HiTiT> :)
[05:42] <nbound> HiTiT, no worries mate =)
[05:42] <HiTiT> deFrysk: :D
[05:42] <vk> does anyone know what to type in console to show uptime?
[05:42] <nbound> night all, sleep time...
[05:42] <HiTiT> nbound: :D
[05:42] <Nihil85> nbound, good night
[05:42] <kasemodz> good night nobund
[05:42] <com-guy> nbound - still same error...   no c compiler found
[05:42] <Seveas> vk, uptime :)
[05:42] <no0tic> Nihil85, if u are running breezy and you don't have strange repositories, your kernel is stable
[05:43] <Seveas>   17:43:01 up 3 days, 56 min,  2 users,  load average: 1.61, 1.76, 1.07
[05:43] <arcade> Hm.  I've never gotten my sources.list entirely correct.
[05:43] <nbound> com-guy, im leaving someone else will have to help
[05:43] <no0tic> Nihil85, and there are only few kernel security patches
[05:43] <vk> Seveas, Logic, tnx anyway
[05:43] <arcade> How many lines do I actually need there, to get main, universe, multiverse and restricted?
[05:43] <HiTiT> nbound, deFrysk, gnomefreak: where did you come from?
[05:43] <com-guy> k, thanx
[05:43] <gnomefreak> come from?
[05:43] <arcade> .. and is there any other repositories I should add in addition? :)
[05:43] <HiTiT> where are u from:)
[05:43] <Seveas> gnomefreak came from hell :p
[05:43] <HiTiT> lol:)
[05:43] <gnomefreak> :) Seveas
[05:44] <gnomefreak> us
[05:44] <vk> seveas, if i type utime i the console, it says 2 users.. but im only one, confusing :S
[05:44] <kasemodz> hey i installed ndiswrapper- utils from snaptik and it installed fine but when i install the drivers and go to do modprobe ndisrwapper it says fatal module not found
[05:44] <HiTiT> mm cool Im from Israel
[05:44] <kasemodz> does anybody what wrong with that
[05:44] <Seveas> vk, every open terminal and every GUI login counts as a user
[05:44] <vk> ok
[05:44] <jsz-a> hi
[05:45] <jsz-a> how can I make the pc speaker beep?
[05:45] <jsz-a> from a command
[05:45] <vk> seveas, so console + 1gui = 2 users :D
[05:45] <Seveas> kasemodz, install linux-686 or linux-k7 (intel or amd)
[05:45] <Seveas> jsz-a, apt-get install beep
[05:45] <Seveas> (seriously)
[05:45] <jsz-a> lol
[05:45] <kasemodz> seveas so i should just do apt-get install linux-686?
[05:45] <Seveas> kasemodz, if you have a pentium processor: yes
[05:45] <saotome_> gusy
[05:45] <kasemodz> ok thx
[05:45] <saotome_> guys*, what's up
[05:46] <Seveas> kasemodz, if it installs a new kernel: reboot afterwards
[05:46] <kasemodz> ok thx
[05:46] <saotome_> anyone know if it's possible to program flash in linux, and if so, what tools can i use?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> crap i think i screwed up :(
[05:46] <T1g3rB[] y> hi
[05:47] <gnomefreak> nope all fixed:)
[05:47] <untitled> ho
[05:48] <Gokur20> hi
[05:48] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: WHAT DOES IT MEAN , here is my firestarter log file: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7173
[05:48] <Gokur20> is this linux channel?
[05:48] <untitled> how can i make rxvt dorderless
[05:48] <HiTiT> Gokur20: yes of ubuntu
[05:48] <quake4ialdaris> untitled: what window manasger?
[05:48] <untitled> fluxbox
[05:48] <Seveas> Gokur20, see the topic, this is the support channel for Ubuntu linux
[05:48] <HiTiT> Gokur20:if u want linux only join #linux here on freenode
[05:48] <Gokur20> ok is there anyone who can help me
[05:48] <Gokur20> ?
[05:48] <com-guy> can anyone help me with an error?  when i try to install httpd, i get an error that says: "no acceptable C compiler found in $path"
[05:48] <quake4ialdaris> Gokur20,  just ask, dont ask to be hleped
[05:48] <Seveas> Gokur20, perhaps, you should just ask your question :)
[05:49] <gnomefreak> dont know it didnt open for me :(
[05:49] <HiTiT> =\
[05:49] <Gokur20> can i speak italian?
[05:49] <gnomefreak> !it
[05:49] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: 1 sec
[05:49] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[05:49] <quake4ialdaris> Gokur20, io parlo italiano
[05:49] <Seveas> quake4ialdaris, but not in here
[05:49] <Gokur20> grazie a te
[05:49] <Gunfus> hey guys..
[05:49] <HiTiT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7173
[05:49] <Gunfus> this maybe a bit of a tricky question
[05:49] <Gunfus> but everytime I come back from standby on my Ubuntus..
[05:50] <Gunfus> I get no sound
[05:50] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7173
[05:50] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: and now?
[05:50] <HiTiT> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7173: someone stied to hack me:S?
[05:50] <bina> saotome_: I think theres something called f4l which does flash in linux but I haven't managed to get it to compile on here
[05:50] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: someone stied to hack me:S?  ***
[05:51] <HiTiT> tried***
[05:51] <gnomefreak> i dont know but it looks like the ports are blocking the apps from running
[05:51] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, noone tried to hack you
[05:51] <gnomefreak> well i didnt :)
[05:51] <bina> saotome_: i've not tried it in ages though so it may be better now
[05:51] <arcade> .. how do I install acroread for ubuntu? :)
[05:52] <arcade> I've tried apt-get install acroread, doesn't find that package.  I've added restricted to sources.list .. I think I need someone to look at my sources.list :)
[05:52] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: LOL :)
[05:52] <HiTiT> so what should I do?
[05:52] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, under most users firestarter is not needed if im  not mistaken iptables are turned on by default
[05:52] <deFrysk> !info acroread
[05:52] <ubotu> acroread: (Adobe Acrobat Reader: Portable Document Format file viewer), section multiverse/text, is optional. Version: 7.0.1-0.0.ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 22263 kB, Installed size: 53192 kB
[05:52] <delvor> 'lo, tried to instal ubuntu, but in the partitions screen the installer didnt find anything.... any ideas?
[05:53] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: mmm... so is that making problems?
[05:53] <gnomefreak> im gonna guess on this since i dont use firestarter but i would think you would open those ports for those apps
[05:53] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: or it is 'Okay'?
[05:53] <arcade> deFrysk: I know, but I still don't get it to work :)  If I paste my sources.list to pastebin, could you take a look?
[05:53] <com-guy> when i try to install httpd, i get an error that says: "no acceptable C compiler found in $path" - any takers?
[05:53] <deFrysk> sure
[05:53] <saotome_> bina: i
[05:53] <gnomefreak> com-guy, sudo apt-get install build-essential :)
[05:54] <saotome_> bina: i've also heard that people use macromedia studio and run it on wine, but i really don't want to go that way
[05:54] <HiTiT> mm OK thanks gnomefreak
[05:54] <arcade> deFrysk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7174
[05:54] <com-guy> thanx... brb
[05:54] <Nihil85> no0tic, are you connected?
[05:54] <Logi> I'm looking at an image for Dapper alpha2 (amd64). Will that come configured with apt sources under development similar to testing or unstable with debian?
[05:54] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: so am I safe for ebay? now:P?
[05:54] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, yes you will be fine
[05:54] <gnomefreak> arcade, put a # infront of the cd-rom repo at top
[05:55] <HiTiT> gnomefreak: thank you very much:) every day you help me:))
[05:55] <gnomefreak> HiTiT, yw
[05:55] <delvor> when installing ubuntu in the partitions screen the installer didnt find anything.... any ideas?
[05:55] <arcade> gnomefreak: Done, updateing and trying again.
[05:55] <Stork> how can i update my kernel from the command line?
[05:55] <arcade> gnomefreak: Didn't help
[05:55] <gnomefreak> arcade, also take the # away from the 2 near the bottom
[05:56] <arcade> gnomefreak: Uhm, doesn't the two right above it cover that?
[05:56] <gnomefreak> arcade, also lol mirrormax is broken for good take that out and use the one ubotu sends you
[05:56] <deFrysk> arcade, uncomment line 36 and 37 and add multiverse to those lines
[05:56] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell arcade about backports
[05:57] <gnomefreak> arcade, no one is restricted the other is not
[05:57] <Stork> how can i update my kernel from the command line?
[05:57] <nvez> apt-get upgrade
[05:57] <gnomefreak> Stork, is there an update for it?
[05:57] <nvez> or System -> Administration -> Upgrade
[05:57] <deFrysk> arcade, deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main universe multiverse restricted what is that line doing inthere ?
[05:57] <Stork> gnomefreak, i haven't touched it in weeks
[05:57] <gnomefreak> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade will upgrade kernels
[05:58] <arcade> deFrysk: I think there is something I do not understand in there somewhere. :)
[05:58] <delvor> when installing ubuntu in the partitions screen the installer didnt find anything.... any ideas?
[05:58] <deFrysk> thats bad backport arcade
[05:59] <arcade> deFrysk: It was right sometime, I added it from some documentation:)
[05:59] <deFrysk> arcade, 39 is a line that should be removed
[05:59] <gnomefreak> replace the backport you have in line 039 with the new one he just gave you also im not sure about that last repo if it should even be there
[05:59] <_jason> nvez, are you still having trouble with mplayer?
[05:59] <arcade> OKay, I've been doing a lot of editing now.. lemme see.
[05:59] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, shoulld not be inthere
[05:59] <gnomefreak> didnt think so thought the ones above covered that :(
[06:00] <Gunfus> does anyone has an idea as to why after I come back from Hybernate I get no sound..
[06:00] <Nihil85> what's the command to see the kernel version?
[06:00] <notsteve> is the web server down on archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:00] <_jason> Nihil85, uname -r
[06:00] <deFrysk> arcade, I hope line 39 hasnt broken anything
[06:00] <gnomefreak> uname -r Nihil85
[06:00] <quake4ialdaris> Gunfus, what you running?
[06:00] <arcade> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7175
[06:00] <Joosep> why does apt-get update suddenly fail on Breezy?
[06:00] <arcade> My newly edited one.
[06:00] <gnomefreak> deFrysk, it should be fine since the repo is dead
[06:00] <notsteve> Joosep: 17:04 < notsteve> is the web server down on archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:01] <Gunfus> Ubuntus.. with a P4 and a 6600 Nvidia card
[06:01] <notsteve> Joosep: same is happening here - box seems up but the web server is down so apt can't pull the updates
[06:01] <nut543> RealOne in wine?
[06:01] <Joosep> yeah, i thought as much :P
[06:01] <Gunfus> QuakeUbuntus.. with a P4 and a 6600 Nvidia card
[06:01] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, good news :)
[06:01] <Joosep> damn, just when i wanted to install something
[06:01] <quake4ialdaris> gunfus what version of ubuntu?
[06:01] <notsteve> Joosep: tell me about it :)
[06:01] <gnomefreak> arcade, take line 040 out of there
[06:01] <Gunfus> quake4ialdaris, the latest.. one I think.. I just installed it a few weeks ago.. how do I check the ubuntus version
[06:01] <deFrysk> 40 ?
[06:02] <deFrysk> 39
[06:02] <arcade> gnomefreak: Do you mean number 39=?
[06:02] <deFrysk> yes
[06:02] <arcade> removed.
[06:02] <deFrysk> cool
[06:02] <gnomefreak> yes its the restricted covered in the above repos
[06:02] <Seveas> Joosep, try se.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:02] <deFrysk> arcade, now update and try again
[06:02] <Joosep> try it how? Seveas
[06:02] <gnomefreak> arcade, no im looking at line 40 i dont see anything on 039
[06:02] <notsteve> Seveas: that works, thanks
[06:02] <moodsoft> hi all, anyone here know about swat?
[06:03] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, line 40 is empty
[06:03] <Seveas> Joosep, in sources.list, replace www.archive with se.archive
[06:03] <arcade> gnomefreak: Ah, right. :)  I see what you mean.  pastebin and my file is of course not in sync :)
[06:03] <Gunfus> quake4ialdaris, the latest.. one I think.. I just installed it a few weeks ago.. how do I check the ubuntus version
[06:03] <arcade> gnomefreak: with the linenumbers. :)
[06:03] <Seveas> moodsoft, if it doesn't start: sudo update-inetd --enable swat
[06:03] <Joosep> oh, ok
[06:03] <moodsoft> thanks Seveas
[06:03] <gnomefreak> deFrysk, not here http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7175
[06:03] <com-guy> gnomefreak - thanx again.  it seems i'm in business now
[06:03] <gnomefreak> com-guy, yw
[06:04] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, oops :s
[06:04] <gnomefreak> lol
[06:04] <Gunfus> quake4ialdaris, are you still there..!?
[06:04] <delvor> when installing ubuntu in the partitions screen the installer didnt find anything.... any ideas?
[06:04] <moodsoft> Seveas, If it didn't know what I meant it would generate an error right?
[06:04] <Vashypooh> is it normal for wine to output errors while you are runing steam?
[06:04] <gnomefreak> arcade, once line 040 is gone apt-get update should give 0 errors
[06:04] <gnomefreak> maybe a gpg error but i doubt it
[06:05] <arcade> gnomefreak: 0 errors.
[06:05] <deFrysk> arcade, now use evince :D
[06:05] <arcade> deFrysk: :-))
[06:05] <moodsoft> after you run update-inetd, do you need to run anything else to get it started?
[06:05] <Drac[Server] > Hiya. Does anyone know if there are proper drivers for 64bit PCI graphics cards (for visual servers)?
[06:06] <arcade> deFrysk: didn't know about that one.
[06:06] <deFrysk> arcade, its goodlooking and works fine
[06:06] <arcade> deFrysk: But, still having trouble finding acroread after updating.  Having trouble finding flash too .. but just looked at the restrictedformat page. ..
[06:06] <arcade> ... and I think i've found my problem
[06:06] <arcade> I'm on AMD64...
[06:06] <Vashypooh> How do I install the source for the kenerl
[06:06] <deFrysk> arcade, ouch
[06:07] <arcade> That _might_ explain why I have so much problems finding packages others seem to get to install just fine. :)
[06:07] <delvor> when installing ubuntu in the partitions screen the installer didnt find anything.... any ideas?
[06:07] <dexem> what's happening with archive.ubuntu.com? refuses my connection.. :S
[06:07] <psusi> delvor, is this a blank disk?
[06:07] <slimspace> Vashypooh: try installing linux-source
[06:07] <speedy> dexem, same with me, seems to be technical problems
[06:08] <psusi> dexem, the main archive or us.archive?
[06:08] <deFrysk> arcade, arcade https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation read it als it refers to amd64 with flash and stuff
[06:08] <speedy> archive.ubuntu.com
[06:08] <delvor> psusi, it should be yes
[06:08] <dexem> at least, fr. uk. es. and the main
[06:08] <_jason> speedy, seems to be down for me as well
[06:08] <psusi> ohh my, you tried several mirrors?
[06:08] <zerodni> hey i was wondering i have seen in ubuntu on the gnome side that they have a startup programs under sessions is there something like this for kde side i have looked but all i see is using the .autostart i have used that forever but i like the gui sometimes
[06:09] <GameOver> hey guys im having problem with sound... for one it doesnt work... 2 in kmix there are no sound settings... current mixer, etc... im using kubuntu
[06:09] <Gunfus> does anyone has an idea as to why after I come back from Hybernate I get no sound..
[06:09] <arcade> deFrysk: Well, the flash stuff isn't that important, but I was annoyed due to not getting it to work according to the docs I've read up until now. :)
[06:09] <HiTiT> which music player can u reccomend me?
[06:09] <gnomefreak> archive.ubuntu.com is down
[06:09] <_jason> speedy, use a mirror, us.archive is working for me
[06:09] <vk> Does anyone know if its possible to in some way emulate fs 2004 in ubuntu?
[06:09] <arcade> deFrysk: Now that I know about the problems - hey - I'll rather yell at macromedia to make a 64bits plugin ;D
[06:09] <speedy> _jason, thanks
[06:09] <moodsoft> what is the Ubuntu equivalent to inetd restart?
[06:09] <HiTiT> which music player can u reccomend me?
[06:09] <arcade> moodsoft: xinetd restart? :)
[06:10] <slimspace> Gunfus: what sound hardware do you have, and are you using the in-kernel suspend or suspend2?
[06:10] <dexem> _jason, thanks too
[06:10] <psusi> moodsoft, did you install inetd and some servers?
[06:10] <mad_phoenix> in the default gnome-terminal scheme...what does it mean when a symlink shows up with red text over black background, instead of teal text on white background?
[06:10] <Drac[Server] > Nobody has the slightest clue about 64bit PCI cards, huh? :|
[06:10] <_jason> HiTiT, beep media player
[06:10] <HiTiT> which music player can u reccomend me?
[06:10] <HiTiT> mm OK 10x
[06:10] <Gunfus> slimspace, I just use whatever the Log-out screen uses
[06:10] <psusi> Drac[Server] , I do... they are wider than 32 bit cards ;)
[06:10] <moodsoft> psusi, No, but I did install swat and can't get it to run
[06:10] <kurumin> I am delete source list of kurumin 5.0..help me?
[06:10] <zerodni> HiTiT i recomend vlc for everything but if your looking for a music suit i would recomend amarok
[06:10] <Gunfus> slimspace, as far the sound hardware is integrated with the motherboard.
[06:11] <psusi> moodsoft, does it want to be run from inet?  if so you will have to install (x)inetd yourself and configure it
[06:11] <_jason> kurumin, what is kurumin ?
[06:11] <slimspace> Gunfus: hmm...that's in-kernel.  Have you tried unloading the sound modules before you suspend and reload them after resume?
[06:11] <Logi> amarok is cool but sucked up all cpu on my system
[06:11] <Logi> I'm back to good old xmms
[06:11] <Gunfus> no.. but I can certenly try that
[06:11] <_jason> Logi, have you tried beep/
[06:11] <Logi> _jason: no, not yet
[06:11] <_jason> Logi, it's basically a better xmms
[06:11] <kurumin> _jason, ?
[06:12] <Logi> _jason: interesting
[06:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell kurumin about easysource
[06:12] <Drac[Server] > psusi: Yeah, that's great information. Do you know if they're supported at all, though?
[06:12] <nvez> anoyne knows a good program to "rip" from windows media streams?
[06:12] <slimspace> Gunfus: give it a go.  Chances are it's something as simple as that.
[06:12] <_jason> Logi, there's bmpx which people say is even better but it's not in the repos-- haven't tried it
[06:12] <nvez> (asf)
[06:12] <psusi> Drac[Server] , yea... not any difference other than the bus is wider
[06:12] <vk> im looking for a text based web browser for linux, does anyone know the nave of it?
[06:12] <kurumin> _jason, kurumin 5.0 source list
[06:12] <Gunfus> okay.. if it is.. how can I fix it..?!
[06:12] <nvez> vk, lynx.
[06:12] <kurumin> help me
[06:13] <vk> nvez. tnx
[06:13] <psusi> vk, lynx, but I don't think there are any web pages made these days that you can still browse with a text only browser
[06:13] <Gunfus> slimspace, so you think I can just remove and add the mod again
[06:13] <kurumin> I am not talk english good!
[06:13] <slimspace> Gunfus: good question, I'll have to look into it a bit.  I'm sure there's a way, but I've got most of my hibernate experience using suspend2, which is a kernel patch.
[06:13] <Logi> beep is gtk2 based, so that's an improvement
[06:13] <slimspace> Gunfus: try it.  Just make sure nothing is using the sound when you do.  You may need to log out of Gnome before it'll let you
[06:13] <psusi> hrm... I might have to look at this beep...
[06:13] <_jason> kurumin, if you want a new sources.list, ubotu sent you a private message on how to get it
[06:13] <Gunfus> slimspace, how do I download the suspend2..?!
[06:14] <nbound> CANT SLEEP =/
[06:14] <_jason> kurumin, what language do you speak?
[06:14] <slimspace> Gunfus: that's a can of worms...there's an article on the forums about it, but it involves alot of stuff you may not need to do.
[06:14] <Gunfus> slimspace, I will give it a go.. let me just save all this links
[06:14] <kurumin> _jason, brasilian
[06:14] <kurumin> portuques
[06:14] <psusi> the normal suspend works just fine... suspend2 just adds some more options to tweek
[06:15] <_jason> kurumin, podias ter pergunatdo em portugues :P, vai a #ubuntu-br, faz: /join #ubuntu-br
[06:15] <GameOver> does anyknow know how to change the screen resolution in kde?
[06:15] <psusi> like being able to choose to save more memory to disk so the system is more responsive after resume ( but the suspend and resume take longer )
[06:15] <slimspace> psusi: also, suspend2 tends to work better for some people.  The normal suspend won't work on my laptop, but suspend2 does.
[06:15] <kurumin> _jason, vc sabe onde posso encontra o source.list do kurumin 5.0
[06:15] <nihil__> hi!
[06:16] <Drac[Server] > psusi: right, I know, but will there be drivers that support acceleration and such?
[06:16] <psusi> slimspace, strange... according to the suspend2 authors, if one works, the other should... the patch just changes how the data is actually written out to disk
[06:16] <_jason> kurumin, nao, nem sei o que e kurumin.  Mas aqui e so ingles, para portugues vai a #ubuntu-br
[06:16] <prem_> hi all, just installed mplayer and trying to play .mov and i get "Cannot find codec for audio format 0x706C6351" any idea how do i solve this, i installed w32codecs and replaced /etc/mplayer/codecs.conf with /usr/share/doc/mplayer/examples/etc/mplayer.conf.gz
[06:16] <psusi> Drac[Server] , acceleration?  you mean for video?
[06:16] <nbound> who in here before said they didnt need fglrx drivers?
[06:16] <slimspace> psusi: yeah, he says if normal suspend works, suspend2 will too.  But my understanding is it doesn't work the other way around.
[06:16] <Drac[Server] > Yes, psusi.
[06:17] <kurumin> _jason, thank very much man
[06:17] <kurumin> i see male
[06:17] <kurumin> :P
[06:17] <nihil__> i have to compile the nvidia kernel module because of the linux kernel upgrade. How can i do this operation?
[06:17] <psusi> Drac[Server] , I don't think anyone makes 64 bit pci video cards... just use agp or pcie now
[06:17] <_jason> prem_, you shoudn't need to modify codecs.conf
[06:17] <spiregrain> prem_- have you tried adding the plf repositries:  http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf
[06:17] <slimspace> psusi: like I said, suspend2 has always worked better for me than normal suspend.
[06:18] <_jason> prem_, did you install mplayer from the repositories?
[06:18] <prem_> _jason: i used the multiverse from ubuntu server
[06:18] <Drac[Server] > psusi: Of course they do. They're for visual servers. I have a server, and I'm going to use it in such a way that it multifunctions as a gaming machine and a webserver. I need graphic acceleration and I'd love to take advantage of the 64bit PCI slots.
[06:18] <Logi> yeah, beep is cool
[06:18] <nihil__> i have to compile the nvidia kernel module because of the linux kernel upgrade. How can i do this operation?
[06:18] <Drac[Server] > Beep doesn't support older XMMS plugins.
[06:18] <nbound> psusi, they make them for PCI-X still...
[06:19] <com-guy> bbl
[06:19] <Drac[Server] > Neither does Audacity.
[06:19] <_jason> prem_, I don't even have that second file you mentioned, was it not working before you replaced codecs.conf?
[06:19] <johny06> prem_ http://pastebin.com/506889
[06:19] <prem_> apokryphos: is there any difference between the w32codes from marillat and plf
[06:20] <prem_> _jason: i am using dapper amd64
[06:20] <Seveas> prem_, no
[06:20] <_jason> prem_, oh, idk then
[06:20] <psusi> that's silly... AGP is faster than PCI-X
[06:20] <nbound> prem_, are they the same size? if so then no
[06:20] <johny06> or  http://www.princessleia.com/MPlayer.php
[06:20] <Seveas> prem_, w*32*codecs don't work on amd*64*
[06:21] <johny06> sh**t 64
[06:21] <spiregrain> "QuickTime QCLP audio decoder" is "0x706C6351" which is listed as working here: http://www4.mplayerhq.hu/MPlayer/DOCS/codecs-status.html
[06:21] <pwn__> what kind of FAT partition can be read by both windows and linux?
[06:21] <prem_> nbound: i am worried about the path where the dapper mplayer looks and the marillat w32codecs*.deb is installed
[06:21] <nbound> psusi, some workstations dont support AGP, and are u sure bout that, the newest incarnation of PCI-X supports upto 533Mhz
[06:21] <psusi> pwn__, any of them
[06:21] <prem_> _jason: idk?
[06:22] <nbound> prem_, w32codecs wont work on amd64
[06:22] <psusi> nbound, wtf?  last time I looked it was 64 bit and 133 MHz only... they made PCI-E because they couldn't push a paralell bus any faster than that
[06:22] <prem_> nbound: but i used it on debian amd64
[06:22] <monzie> hi all
[06:22] <prem_> monzie: hi
[06:22] <nbound> prem_, thats debian =P
[06:22] <monzie> hi prem_
[06:22] <pwn__> what FAT is best?
[06:22] <Seveas> pwn__, fat32
[06:22] <monzie> can someone help me with a problem with apt
[06:23] <nbound> psusi, ill have a look
[06:23] <prem_> is ubuntu-dapper worse than debian-etch?
[06:23] <Seveas> monzie, depends on the problem
[06:23] <gnomefreak> fat16 is kind of old?
[06:23] <monzie> actually, apt-get update is giving tons of "Connection refused" errors
[06:23] <_jason> prem_, "i don't know' about amd64
[06:23] <Seveas> prem_, at this moment: probably
[06:23] <psusi> seeing as how fat16 can only be 8 gigs, fat32 is best
[06:23] <Seveas> monzie, /topic
[06:23] <monzie> sorry?
[06:23] <nbound> psusi, PCI-X 2.0 uses a 266MHz rate and also a 533MHz rate, expands the configuration space to 4KB, adds a 16-bit bus variant and allows for 1.5V signalling
[06:23] <nbound> ;)
[06:23] <monzie> Could not get you Seveas ?
[06:23] <Seveas> monzie, look at the topic of the channel...
[06:23] <_jason> prem_, maybe you can try vlc
[06:23] <nihil__> i have to compile the nvidia kernel module because of the linux kernel upgrade. How can i do this operation?
[06:24] <Seveas> !tell nihil__ about nvidia
[06:24] <nihil__> Seveas, nothing appears when you type !tell
[06:24] <psusi> nbound, that's hard to believe.... is it point to point as well?
[06:24] <Seveas> nihil__, ubotu sent you a message
[06:24] <monzie> oh, sorry Seveas, any news on when it will be up?
[06:24] <nihil__> ah, ok Seveas
[06:24] <nihil__> thanks
[06:24] <Seveas> monzie, if there was, it would be in the topic
[06:25] <psusi> electrically you can't really get a multi point bus clocking that fast... too much capacitance on it
[06:25] <nbound> psusi, look at the wiki article for PCI its all there
[06:25] <psusi> nbound, url?
[06:25] <monzie> okay, got the point Seveas
[06:25] <nbound> psusi, ill get it for you =)
[06:26] <nbound> psusi, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peripheral_Component_Interconnect#Other_PCI_variants
[06:26] <johny06> nihil  sudo apt-get install nvidia-glx
[06:27] <pwn__> does, W95 FAT32 work for both windows and linux?
[06:27] <nihil__> johny06, are you sure that's the way to recompile the nvidia kernel module for the new linux kernel?
[06:27] <nbound> pwn__, yes
[06:27] <Seveas> pwn__, yes
[06:27] <pwn__> does it work well?
[06:28] <psusi> pwn__, the partition tag value doesn't matter... it doens't change the filesystem
[06:28] <Storkme> DARN! azureus isn't available as a debian package. I might have to download and install manually.. HEAVEN FORBID!!
[06:28] <manuel_> hi
[06:28] <Firebird> hi
[06:28] <psusi> pwn__, linux doesn't care what it is at all, windows just wants any of the values that say fat iirc
[06:28] <Firebird> anyone know how to get ubuntu to play more than one sound at a time
[06:28] <nbound> Nihil85, no that isnt, thats to install the nvidia package from apt
[06:28] <psusi> Storkme, don't bother... it sucks.... use bit tornado
[06:28] <johny06> nihl__http://pastebin.com/506908
[06:28] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Storkme about azureus
[06:29] <nbound> psusi, told ya so =P
[06:29] <bolsh> Any PPC users around, able to help me get at some HFS partitions?
[06:29] <nbound> !PPC
[06:29] <ubotu> ppc is, like, PowerPC. Macs, IBMs. Nicer than Intel.
[06:29] <USER015529> ciao a tutti
[06:29] <nbound> lol
[06:29] <johny06> & then http://pastebin.com/506911
[06:29] <RuthFan>  Greetings. I'm new to this forum. Do I just post the question?
[06:29] <nbound> RuthFan, yep
[06:29] <gnomefreak> RuthFan, yes
[06:29] <RuthFan> Thanks
[06:29] <RuthFan> Ubuntu doesn't detect my hardware modem - Autoconfigure Network failed during installation, Admin>Networking>Auto Detect Modem didn't work? TIA
[06:29] <nbound> RuthFan, just but in we all do it =D
[06:30] <psusi> nbound, wow.... know of any motherboards that support such a beast? ;)
[06:30] <HappyFool> !modem
[06:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, modem is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[06:30] <HappyFool> winmodems can be tricky, unfortunately
[06:30] <nbound> psusi, afaik most workstation boards do... or PCI-X along with PCI-E as well
[06:30] <moodsoft> hey all, does ubuntu come w/ a firewall by default?
[06:30] <RuthFan> !modem
[06:30] <ubotu> modem is probably see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[06:30] <Seveas> !firewall
[06:30] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[06:30] <GameOver> is there a way to change screen resoultion in kubuntu?
[06:31] <HappyFool> RuthFan: the idea is you cut-and-paste that link to your browser ;)
[06:31] <nbound> GameOver, System->prefs->screen res ;)
[06:31] <psusi> moodsoft, ubuntu needs no firewall by default
[06:31] <nbound> psusi, in case u want a shiny PCI-E gfx card in ur work station =P
[06:31] <psusi> nbound, why not use everything pcie though?
[06:32] <GameOver> nbound... i dont see any preferences
[06:32] <RuthFan> Yes, thank you. I've been to the website. I was hoping that someone could help me with the autodect feature in 5.10
[06:32] <moodsoft> ok, but does it come w/  one? I'm trying to figure out why I can't give it traffic
[06:32] <psusi> I'm confused as to why they keep cranking the clock rate on pci-x when they already made pci-e to superceed it
[06:32] <nbound> psusi, legacy, or some cards havent migrated to pcie yet
[06:32] <nbound> GameOver, well i thought it would be the same as gnome, sorry
[06:32] <moodsoft> is there something like firestarter but w/ a cui interface
[06:33] <NChief> apt-get server down?
[06:33] <GameOver> its k
[06:33] <Tomis15> hi
[06:33] <gnomefreak> cui?
[06:33] <slimspace> NChief: that seems to be the consensus.  See if you can use a mirror.  us.archive.ubuntu.com is working for me
[06:33] <moodsoft> a text based interfaced (non-xwindows)
[06:33] <Tomis15> I want to know UBUNTU get in my mail for free?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> do you mean gui?
[06:33] <nbound> gnomefreak, chracter-based uuser interface
[06:33] <gnomefreak> oh
[06:34] <bolsh> nbound, I take it that you don't use PPC, then?
[06:34] <speedy> NChief, use us.archive.ubuntu.com
[06:34] <nvez> someone got a nice sources.list that can link to me?
[06:34] <nbound> bolsh, hell no "get those macs away" =P
[06:34] <bshumate> !tell Tomis15 about shipit
[06:34] <Tomis15> !tell ship it
[06:34] <bolsh> Having some trouble copying data across from a couple of HFS partitions
[06:34] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken there is a way to edit iptables from cli
[06:34] <NChief> speedy: how do I use that? :p
[06:35] <nbound> bolsh, what kind of trouble?
[06:35] <bolsh> I thought the pain was over once I'd saved everything to CD, reinstalled MacOS and Ubuntu, and set Linux to boot as default
[06:35] <nvez> !tell nvez about sources.list
[06:35] <bolsh> I had some keyboard issues...
[06:35] <speedy> NChief, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list and change the hostname
[06:35] <haasteem> hi, is there a channel specifically for gtk?
[06:35] <bolsh> And X issues
[06:35] <NChief> speedy: ok, thx
[06:35] <nbound> !gtk
[06:35] <ubotu> nbound: Wish i knew
[06:35] <nvez> !easysource
[06:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:36] <bolsh> And mouse issues (why can't Option-click be right-click?)
[06:36] <haasteem> !gtk
[06:36] <ubotu> haasteem: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[06:36] <nbound> bolsh, most (all) of us are x86 users... try the ubuntu forums =)
[06:36] <bshumate> haasteem: check out #gtk+ channel
[06:36] <bolsh> Now I just have keyboard issues, and issues getting at all the data I have on the mac partitions
[06:36] <haasteem> bshumate: thanks
[06:36] <bradley_> i'm having troulbe connecting to torrents... i'm running firestarter and using the standard ubuntu bittorrent client... any clues?
[06:36] <bolsh> nbound: Any address in particular?
[06:37] <Seveas> bolsh, for mounting mac partitions: /msg ubotu diskmounter
[06:37] <nbound> bolsh, not that i know of... but it would have its on sub-forum i would presume
[06:37] <deefzi> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/showthread.php?p=292953#post292953
[06:38] <bolsh> Seveas, Thanks
[06:38] <ChrisS1563> Hello everyone I am a new Ubuntu user
[06:38] <Seveas> ChrisS1563, welcome
[06:38] <nbound> ChrisS1563, welcome, just type ur q, we will try and asnwer if possible
[06:38] <ChrisS1563> exciting not to see WINDOWS  :)
[06:38] <foo_-> gnomefreak: Hi, wel talked yesterday
[06:39] <Seveas> ChrisS1563, hmm, I see many windows on my desktop, there must be something wrong =)
[06:39] <ChrisS1563> I have no questions at this time but I am certain to
[06:39] <nbound> ChrisS1563, now u've joined the weird and wacky world of xwindows =P
[06:39] <gnomefreak> yes foo_-
[06:39] <foo_-> gnomefreak: ondeed it was a damaged cd, even the m5sum was right
[06:39] <Logi> I prefer to think of it as post-windows
[06:39] <deefzi> nbound, please be so kind to check the url i gave few lines ago :-)
[06:39] <ChrisS1563> I feel gifted
[06:40] <majd> hey, i always used to see some sorta half transparent boxes on the right of the desktop that showed system stats and what not
[06:40] <foo_-> gnomefreak: maybe something during the burning process was wrong
[06:40] <majd> how do i get them?
[06:40] <nbound> deefzi, sorry im opening now =)
[06:40] <gnomefreak> foo_-, it happens most of time when burning too fast
[06:40] <_jason> ChrisS1563, tell all your friends :)
[06:40] <gnomefreak> foo_-, always want to burn on lowest speed possible
[06:40] <foo_-> gnomefreak: on an old 4x burner...
[06:40] <bmsleight> Hi I have just done an Ubuntu install (Breezy) on a iMac G3 ~660MHz. It it suffering from 'freezes' in that i cna for example now type the user name move the mouse around. But whne I select say 'Session' I loss responsiveness in the mouse. The have to wait ~ 30s after clickign the cancel button for this dialog box to clear the screen. Same thng happens whn I log in. (Uses ubuntu-5.10-install-powerpc.iso d/loaded today)
[06:40] <deefzi> nbound, thank you very much. i'm almost out of ammo with this problem :)
[06:40] <ChrisS1563> All my friends don't understand computers
[06:41] <foo_-> gnomefreak: hadn't hat that problem before...
[06:41] <bmsleight> no errors during install
[06:41] <ChrisS1563> They would rather sell out to Bill Gates
[06:41] <foo_-> gnomefreak: but now everything works (nearly) fine
[06:41] <_jason> ChrisS1563, join us in #ubuntu-offtopic, we like to keep this channel for support
[06:41] <gnomefreak> foo_-,  cool
[06:41] <ChrisS1563> Oh ok... sorry
[06:41] <foo_-> gnomefreak: some i18n stuff, but...
[06:41] <bmsleight> Any ideas ?
[06:42] <ssam_> bmsleight, have a browse through http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=95 the are some posts about getting the graphics driver right on imacs
[06:42] <nbound> deefzi, have u tried the "grub> map (hd0) (hd1)" commands?
[06:42] <foo_-> gnomefreak: do you know if it's possible to get a german firefox and thunderbird?
[06:42] <bmsleight> ssam_, Thanks - will look
[06:42] <nbound> foo_-, id imagine so
[06:42] <foo_-> nbound: where to look?
[06:42] <gnomefreak> foo_-, no im not sure but i think FF has a lang. changing setting
[06:43] <nbound> foo_-, the firefox homepage
[06:43] <deefzi> nbound, but shouldn't that be done in grub-terminal?
[06:43] <foo_-> nbound: deb packets?
[06:43] <nbound> deefzi, yeah i meant put them in it
[06:43] <deefzi> nbound, or can that be applied to menu.lst so that i wouldn't have to do it every time i start my pc
[06:43] <ssam_> bmsleight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115526
[06:43] <deefzi> nbound, but what's the line and where should i put them?
[06:43] <ZarathustraDK> Hey dudes, my tvtime is acting up again, Had it working perfectly yesterday, but today it's all "no signal". The log states "mixer: Can't open device /dev/mixer, mixer volume and mute unavailable.". Anybody know how to correct this?
[06:43] <nbound> deefzi, ive never done it before, so no idea =(
[06:44] <nbound> foo_-, then ur out of luck
[06:44] <nbound> foo_-, unless u set ur repository to a german one i spose
[06:44] <nbound> or u could ask here
[06:44] <nbound> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:44] <bmsleight> ssam_, Loked at the forum post - the grtaphic are fine, no snow etc. Just that the reponse is about fro example 4 minutes to login.
[06:45] <foo_-> nbound: thx
[06:45] <cycom> what exactly does System.map do?
[06:45] <nbound> foo_-, no worries mate =)
[06:45] <ssam_> bmsleight, did you see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=115526
[06:46] <nbound> hehe what is it with borked ubuntu installs on macs tonight
[06:46] <nbound> lol
[06:46] <majd> how do i get them?
[06:46] <majd> hey, i always used to see some sorta half transparent boxes on the right of the desktop that showed system stats and what not
[06:46] <nvez> tonight? =p
[06:46] <nbound> nvez, well this morning here actually
[06:47] <nvez> 1246 here. :p
[06:47] <bmsleight> ssam_, Thanks I try that. Also having a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuDateBug
[06:47] <nbound> nvez, 446 am =P
[06:47] <nbound> nvez, heh, im in australia
[06:47] <bmsleight> but I am using ntp so it might be the one you pointed to
[06:47] <nvez> figured out from the time
[06:47] <nvez> =p
[06:47] <cycom> anyone? anyone? what is system.map and why the hell do I need it open?
[06:47] <gnomefreak> anyone else having thuderbird issues in ubuntu?
[06:47] <ssam_> bmsleight, the date bug stops you logging incompletely, it does not sound like that
[06:47] <nbound> and ur from good ole canadia =P
[06:48] <nvez> yep yep
[06:48] <nbound> toronto to be exact
[06:48] <nvez> wrong.
[06:48] <nvez> my hostname says toronto
[06:48] <nbound> damn
[06:48] <nvez> thought I live in montreal, stupid sympatico.
[06:48] <nvez> =p
[06:48] <nbound> hehe
[06:48] <bmsleight> ssam_, Yep
[06:48] <nvez> im connected to a central like 500kms from here
[06:48] <nbound> my host says im from the cocos islands so go figure =P
[06:48] <nvez> * [nbound]  (n=karl@202.22.168.154): N/A
[06:48] <nvez> not rly
[06:48] <nvez> =p
[06:49] <nbound> ohhh it should say tsn.cc
[06:49] <nvez>  154.168.22.202.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer 154.168.22.202.tsn.cc.
[06:49] <nvez> it does.
[06:49] <nvez> =p
[06:49] <nbound> hehe
[06:49] <nvez> "archive.ubuntu.com is down, try se.archive.ubuntu.com"
[06:49] <ssam_> bmsleight, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=96219 might be useful also
[06:50] <nvez> why not us? =p
[06:50] <nbound> or au.archive.ubuntu ;)
[06:50] <airwolf1> what does it mean when I can't resolve half the domains on the net and most nameservers I try with nslookup give me a ** server can't find irc.freenode.org: REFUSED
[06:50] <airwolf1> I had to search google.com (which resolves) for the ip of freenode.net (which doesn't)
[06:50] <nbound> airwolf1, means ur interent is borked
[06:51] <nbound> internet*
[06:51] <airwolf1> I tried 4 different nameservers of 2 different isps
[06:51] <Seveas> airwolf1, irc.freenode.NET
[06:51] <Seveas> not org
[06:51] <nbound> lol
[06:51] <airwolf1> 1 of them resolves half the domains
[06:51] <airwolf1> Seveas: huh?
[06:51] <HappyFool> try your own isp's dns
[06:51] <airwolf1> HappyFool: they don't work
[06:51] <airwolf1> one of the t-online dns does
[06:51] <Seveas>  ** server can't find irc.freenode.org: REFUSED <-- it's irc.freenode.net
[06:52] <airwolf1> sometimes
[06:52] <airwolf1> Seveas: I thought it was both, at least I tried both
[06:52] <cycom> gnomefreak: what kind of issues?
[06:52] <nvez> ca.archive.ubuntu.com ftw
[06:52] <airwolf1> otherwise I wouldn't be here
[06:52] <gnomefreak> cycom, i fixed it i wasnt using tlc
[06:52] <allan> does anyone else notice that the default Document Viewer crashes a lot when viewing PDF's?
[06:52] <gnomefreak> tls
[06:52] <Xylene> i know this is a dumb question, but i just want to be sure; is there a package for openvpn in the ubuntu apt repos? i am going to be setting up a box for someone and was considering using ubuntu server but figured i'd ask first
[06:52] <nbound> nvez, lol
[06:52] <cycom> gnomefreak: ah. ok
[06:53] <qkslvrwolf> does anyone know perl?
[06:53] <nbound> Xylene, why dont u run a search in synaptic and see
[06:53] <airwolf1> does anyone have a link with some info about nslookup/dns lookups for linux with the ip instead of the domain
[06:53] <Xylene> i don't have any ubuntuy boxes
[06:53] <Xylene> err ubuntu. i'm a gentoo user myself
[06:53] <gnomefreak> airwolf1, whois <ipaddress>
[06:53] <nbound> allan, mine doesnt
[06:53] <airwolf1> google's cache is borked and I can't access most articles that sound helpful
[06:53] <nbound> Xylene, ill check for you =)
[06:53] <Xylene> thanks
[06:54] <nvez> qkslvrwolf does anyone know perl? < ask on.
[06:54] <bolsh> Seveas, that's a script that adds the right lines to fstab, right?
[06:54] <gnomefreak> try #perl
[06:54] <ssam_> allan, evince is usually good for me. reads 40mb pdfs fine
[06:54] <Xylene> i mean, i'm pretty sure there will be one, but i don't want to install and then it's not there and have to muck around with apt sources
[06:54] <allan> yeah
[06:54] <HappyFool> Xylene: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:54] <allan> its what im using
[06:54] <allan> but it keeps crashing
[06:54] <qkslvrwolf> ok, I'm playing with it, and for some unknown reason I can't get it to except elsif 's
[06:54] <bolsh> It doesn't do any magic besides fdisk -l?
[06:54] <nvez> pastebin code?
[06:54] <ssam_> allan, you could try xpdf and gpdf see if they work better for you
[06:54] <nbound> Xylene, yep do u want version too?
[06:54] <Xylene> HappyFool: ah, look at that. thanks, didn't know that exists. many thanks
[06:54] <allan> thx
[06:55] <Xylene> nbound: nope, got it from the packages site
[06:55] <airwolf1> gnomefreak: not possible, whois doesn't work
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf> while ($choice != (1 || 2 || 3 || 4 || 5 || 0))
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>         {
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 print "Choose a race.  1 for Dwarf\n2 for Elf\n";
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 print "3 for Halfling\n4 for Human\n5 for random.\n";
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 chomp($choice = <STDIN>);
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 print "You entered ", $choice, ".\n";
[06:55] <nbound> Xylene, ok
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 if ($choice == 5)
[06:55] <nvez> oh god.
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 {
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                         $choice = random_choice("race");
[06:55] <Xylene> oh, one other question, is there a specific cd for the ubuntu server install?
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                         print $choice, " was randomly chosen.\n";
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 }
[06:55] <HappyFool> heh
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 if ($choice == 1) {$Race = "Dwarf";}
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 elsif ($choice == 2) {$Race = "Elf";}
[06:55] <_jason> qkslvrwolf, CTRL+C
[06:55] <nbound> qkslvrwolf, PASTEBIN
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 elsif ($choice == 3) {$Race = "Halfling";}
[06:55] <HappyFool> you have angered the gods!
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 elsif ($choice == 4) {$Race = "Human";}
[06:55] <Xylene> haha oh man
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 elsif ($choice == 0) {_END_}
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 else
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 {
[06:55] <gnomefreak> whois doesnt work?
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                         $choice = -1;
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                         print "1-5, dumbass\n";
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf>                 }
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf> sorry abouthte mast post
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf> oh, sorry
[06:55] <airwolf1> gnomefreak: unfortunatly no
[06:55] <qkslvrwolf> whats pastebin?
[06:55] <HappyFool> right when seveas was looking too
[06:55] <nvez> .
[06:55] <nbound> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:56] <Xylene> oh, one other question, is there a specific cd for the ubuntu server install?
[06:56] <nbound> there u go
[06:56] <gnomefreak> airwolf1,  wend me what you typing please
[06:56] <gnomefreak> you know to leave off the <>
[06:56] <nbound> Xylene, no u use the normal one
[06:56] <Xylene> alright, thanks a lot guys
[06:56] <MrPockets> is there a freeware alternitave to Cedega?
[06:56] <qkslvrwolf> my bad, sorry guys
[06:56] <airwolf1> gnomefreak: e.g. ping www.nvidia.com
[06:56] <airwolf1> or whatever
[06:56] <airwolf1> it just doesn't resolve
[06:56] <nvez> airwolf1, what about local?
[06:56] <ssam_> MrPockets, wine
[06:56] <nvez> does local ips work too?
[06:57] <airwolf1> ais, could someone please give me a link to a useful site about dns lookups with ip?
[06:57] <gnomefreak> <<<pings it just fine :)
[06:57] <mjr> MrPockets, rather, Cedega is a proprietary alternative for Wine
[06:57] <qkslvrwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7176
[06:57] <nbound> MrPockets, u can compile cedega from cvs for free (not 100% as funtional as Cedega proper) also, u can use wine
[06:57] <qkslvrwolf> there we go, give that a shot
[06:57] <nvez> airwolf1, does local ips work?
[06:57] <airwolf1> nvez: no lan, but parts work apparently otherwise I wouldn't be here
[06:57] <MrPockets> what would you suggust?
[06:57] <nvez> oh, so probably borked nameservers
[06:57] <MrPockets> i supose, whats easier to use?
[06:57] <pulsar> Hallo!
[06:57] <nvez> System -> Administration -> Networking
[06:57] <gnomefreak> airwolf1, try pin www.google.com
[06:57] <nvez> nameservers
[06:57] <airwolf1> nvez, which dns do you use atm?
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ping *
[06:58] <nbound> MrPockets, i just use wine, it gets the job done
[06:58] <nvez> 4.2.2.1-6
[06:58] <MrPockets> im installing it now
[06:58] <airwolf1> gnomefreak: google.com works
[06:58] <MrPockets> and whats the code to see hard disk space?
[06:58] <airwolf1> airwolf1: but I can't visit the sites it finds
[06:58] <pulsar> What should I set my hostname to? Do I need some domain, if I want to use postfix locally?
[06:58] <nbound> MrPockets, dont get the one from synaptic, unless uve updated the repositories
[06:58] <airwolf1> and googles cache has been unreliable for months
[06:58] <qkslvrwolf> or better yet...repostedto keepthe whole while loop
[06:58] <nvez> System -> Administration -> Networking -> DNS and Add 4.2.2.1 - 4.2.2.2 - 4.2.2.3 - 4.2.2.4 - 4.2.2.5 - 4.2.2.6
[06:58] <nbound> MrPockets, coz its old =(
[06:58] <_jason> MrPockets, df
[06:58] <airwolf1> i.e. most sites he tells me he doesn't find the cached page
[06:58] <nvez> Remove any other ones
[06:58] <MrPockets> nbound,  meaning?
[06:58] <HappyFool> MrPockets: df
[06:58] <render> anybody know an app to convert a divx into a set of files .vob to create a dvd-video?
[06:59] <nvez> Those are the stabelest, root nameservers.
[06:59] <Xylene> ah, jeez, i'm full of questions today. last one, i swear, does the ubuntu server install X and gnome?
[06:59] <airwolf1> nvez: thx I'll try
[06:59] <qkslvrwolf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7177
[06:59] <nvez> render, dvdauthor
[06:59] <render> (for linux obviousliy :)
[06:59] <nvez> yes.
[06:59] <nvez> dvdauthor.sourceforge.com
[06:59] <nbound> MrPockets, www.winehq.com <---- that will answer all
[06:59] <render> tnx nvez
[06:59] <nbound> MrPockets, if ur runnin ubuntu amd64 u can pretty much forget running wine
[06:59] <HappyFool> Xylene: ubuntu server installs no X (or gnome). ``standard'' ubuntu installs gnome and X
[06:59] <MrPockets> nah im i386?
[07:00] <MrPockets> im runnen a P4
[07:00] <nbound> MrPockets, works perfect with 386
[07:00] <Xylene> thank, i didn't want to have to remove X and gnome after. i'm setting up a box for someone and i don't want them to be able to click around on it :P
[07:00] <gnomefreak> airwolf1, whois works too :) your in germany :)
[07:00] <gnomefreak> or atleast routed through there
[07:01] <airwolf1> nvez: thx a lot, apparently it's really a dns problem
[07:01] <allan> anyone have a python IDE to recommend? i've been using Eric IDE, but I've heard there are better free ones
[07:01] <airwolf1> wouldn't have thought that to be possible, because too many didn't work
[07:01] <airwolf1> =)
[07:01] <gnomefreak> allan, do you want texted based or gui?
[07:01] <HappyFool> allan: i use emacs, fwiw
[07:02] <nbound> fwiw?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> anjuta does python boa-constricter emacs vim
[07:02] <MrPockets> next question, is how do i uninstall shit?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> there are a load of them :(
[07:02] <HappyFool> flush the toilet?
[07:02] <nbound> MrPockets, from wine or from ubuntu?
[07:02] <gnomefreak> MrPockets, sudo apt-get remove --purge shit
[07:02] <nbound> lol@ HappyFool
[07:02] <allan> gui is nice, but it doesnt really matter
[07:02] <MrPockets> i wanna get rid of Wine
[07:02] <nbound> and gnomefreak
[07:02] <gnomefreak> nbound,  what?
[07:03] <nbound> MrPockets, didnt u just install that?
[07:03] <nbound> gnomefreak, lol'd at you
[07:03] <gnomefreak> oh
[07:03] <qkslvrwolf> anyway, nvez, if itdoesn't match on 1, it just skips back to the beginning of the while loop.
[07:03] <HappyFool> allan: http://wiki.python.org/moin/PythonEditors  -- longish list of python editors
[07:03] <MrPockets> yeah but its giving me a buncha shit, and i wanna read the website before instlaling it
[07:03] <gnomefreak> MrPockets, if its a deb try sudo dpkg -r shit
[07:03] <nbound> MrPockets, its not setup properly until u run winecfg anyway
[07:03] <jayr> hello... I need help accessing my firewire drive
[07:04] <gnomefreak> <<<suggests sudo apt-get remove --purge wine :( but thats just me
[07:04] <nbound> jayr, should be recognized automagically
[07:04] <jayr> hmm... I am using xfce so I doesn'
[07:04] <nbound> jayr, then use gnome =P
[07:04] <jayr> hmmf
[07:05] <qkslvrwolf> can someone take a look at this code snippet http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7177 and tell me why I can only exit the while loop on a 1?
[07:05] <jayr> can you  give me command line version please.. trying to learn commandline
[07:05] <SheppardsLegion> you can login a root once you change the passwd.. sudo passwd root
[07:05] <jayr> so that I can edit fstabfile
[07:06] <bryanl> i want to use debian sid packages under ubuntu... i've updated sources.list... what changes should i add to /etc/apt/preferences, so apt will always look to unbuntu first?
[07:06] <_jason> qkslvrwolf, I like the error message
[07:06] <qkslvrwolf> :-)
[07:06] <qkslvrwolf> its just for my personal use so I figured I can insult away
[07:06] <Seveas> SheppardsLegion, do not advise that, the ubuntu way is to use sudo
[07:07] <ltibor65> Hi Guys! Who can tell me a chess program for Ubuntu?
[07:07] <_jason> qkslvrwolf, what are you writing that in?
[07:07] <qkslvrwolf> perl
[07:07] <eponae> coucou ici :)
[07:07] <nbound> qkslvrwolf, it seems like it would exit early...
[07:07] <Seveas> ltibor65, apt-cache search chess :)
[07:07] <eponae> j'avais dit que je passerai :)
[07:07] <SheppardsLegion> it is easier at the command prompt
[07:07] <Seveas> eponae, we speak english in here
[07:07] <qkslvrwolf> ltibor, if you're lookingto play the computer theres a nice little flash program claled easychess.swf
[07:07] <nbound> !fr
[07:07] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:07] <SheppardsLegion> I am not suggexting to login to X as rrot
[07:07] <ompaul> !fr
[07:08] <qkslvrwolf> no, it only exits the while loop on a 1
[07:08] <eponae> no problem Seveas :)
[07:08] <Seveas> SheppardsLegion, 'sudo gedit /etc/fstab is much easier' :)
[07:08] <qkslvrwolf> if anything else comes up, it won't exit
[07:08] <nbound> qkslvrwolf, it seems like it would exit early... as choice would = something as soon as you pressed a key
[07:08] <hostix> Hey
[07:08] <SheppardsLegion> :0>
[07:08] <Seveas> while ($choice != (1 || 2 || 3 || 4 || 5 || 0)) <-- that'll never work...
[07:08] <hostix> i have a problem with my sound
[07:08] <hostix> i have a onboard sound card but ubuntu can
[07:09] <hostix> can't find it *
[07:09] <qkslvrwolf> fair enough...any counter suggestions?
[07:09] <bryanl> whats the easiest way to install package from debian sid?
[07:09] <nbound> its funny ive never dealt with this programming language before yet i know what it does, once uve learnt one uve lernt em all
[07:09] <ompaul> bryanl, not to
[07:09] <qkslvrwolf> it isn't exiting early...its actually only exiting on 1
[07:09] <Seveas> qkslvrwolf, ask on #perl, this is not a perl channel, (hint: while ($choice >0 && $choice <= 5))
[07:09] <user-2-u> greeting
[07:09] <qkslvrwolf> fair enough
[07:09] <Davey`> nbound: shame your grasp of the english language isn't as good, apparently. :P
[07:09] <ompaul> bryanl, mixing debian debs and ubuntu debs is not a good idea
[07:09] <bryanl> ompaul, i want a packaged tomcat5, and ubuntu doesn't have one...
[07:09] <SheppardsLegion> later
[07:10] <Seveas> !info tomcat
[07:10] <bryanl> ompaul... i'll just go get the source from debian and recompile it locally
[07:10] <nbound> Davey, my english is fine, and so is my spelling (normally), ur grasp on concepts isnt though =P
[07:10] <Davey`> nbound: at least I take the time to spell "your" :)
[07:10] <Seveas> bryanl, maybe because tomcat only works with  a non-free jvm?
[07:10] <bryanl> Seveas, i have a non-free jvm installed
[07:10] <Seveas> Davey`, language nitpicking is NOT DONE in here...
[07:11] <gnomefreak> are .zip files multi platform?
[07:11] <Seveas> bryanl, maybe because tomcat only works with  a non-free jvm? <-- I meant, that's why there is no Ubuntu package of it
[07:11] <user-2-u> can anyone tell me how to make ubuntu /xp  boot to xp by default
[07:11] <jclinton> hey all... question about the design of ubuntu... what is the "correct" way to install mozilla firefox 1.5?
[07:11] <Seveas> gnomefreak, .zip can be read on sevreal operating systems
[07:11] <bryanl> Seveas, i created ubuntu packages for sun's java 5..
[07:11] <gnomefreak> :)
[07:11] <jclinton> is it sitting in one of the repos and i can just install it?
[07:11] <bryanl> i'll just create debs for tomcat...
[07:11] <Seveas> jclinton, the correct way is not to do it :)
[07:11] <Seveas> !ff1.5
[07:11] <ubotu> You can update to firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:12] <gnomefreak> ty Seveas im gonna try one i think :)
[07:12] <nbound> Davey`, "word contraction"
[07:12] <Seveas> !ff1.5 =~ s/update to/use/
[07:12] <ubotu> that doesn't contain 'update to', Seveas
[07:12] <TokenBad> ok I was unrar a big iso file...and it came up saying file size limit exceeded..whats that mean?
[07:12] <ompaul> bryanl, I would suggest that you get the actual sources, not debian ones
[07:12] <HappyFool> user-2-u: assuming you have done a normal ubuntu install, you can edit the file /boot/menu/grub.lst to boot XP by default
[07:12] <cycom> what does klogd do in ubuntu, exactly? can I safely stop it?
[07:12] <nbound> HappyFool, now why would u want to boot to XP at all ;P
[07:13] <Davey`> its the kernel log daemon cycom, I wouldn't ;)
[07:13] <_jason> !firefox1.5 =~ s/update to/use/
[07:13] <ubotu> OK, _jason
[07:13] <cycom> TokenBad: what fs are you using?
[07:13] <ompaul> cycom,  klogd (8)            - Kernel Log Daemon
[07:13] <hehe> elo ppol! how do i upgrade the firefox 1.0.7 on ubuntu's 5.10 release?
[07:13] <Tomis15> !tell ship it
[07:13] <cycom> Davey`: ompaul, why the hell does it need System.map?
[07:13] <nbound> !firefox
[07:13] <TokenBad> cycom what you mean what fs?
[07:13] <unique311> hello
[07:13] <bryanl> ompaul, why would you suggest that?
[07:13] <gnomefreak> darn it has a .exe in it :(
[07:13] <nbound> !firefox1.5
[07:13] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:13] <psusi> cycom, so it can translate kernel addresses to human readable symbols
[07:13] <user-2-u> thanks Happy
[07:13] <cycom> TokenBad: file system.  like ext3 or fat32 or something?
[07:13] <HappyFool> user-2-u: you'll see a line 'default 0' (or some other number) in menu.lst; change it to a the number corresponding to Windows in your boot menu (the menu you see when you boot). Bear in mind that grub counts from 0 (0,1,2,3...)
[07:14] <Stormx2> Hiya
[07:14] <nbound> hehe read ubotu's last post
[07:14] <TokenBad> oh its fat32...so thats the prob..I forgot...it don't like file sizes that big...its a 4.4 gig file..
[07:14] <cycom> psusi: I want to unmount /boot (it's on a seperate partition)
[07:14] <nbound> and thats hehe as in the user hehe =P
[07:14] <cycom> TokenBad: you got it.
[07:14] <psusi> cycom, why do you want to do that?
[07:14] <ompaul> bryanl, if there is something altered that does not work with ubuntu - this is not sid world breezy is now at least 3 months out of sync with sid
[07:14] <cycom> TokenBad: I had a similar problem when I had to move a big tar to a fat32fs.  I had to split it
[07:15] <bryanl> ompaul, are you familiar with tomcat?
[07:15] <cycom> psusi: I would like to dual boot gentoo, and for part of the install, it is easier if I have it mounted on /mnt/gentoo/boot
[07:15] <cycom> psusi: it won't behave right with a symlink either.
[07:15] <TokenBad> cycom, yeah this is an iso file...that I need to mount...so not going to be able to split it...unless you know a way...
[07:16] <psusi> cycom, try a bind mount?
[07:16] <ompaul> bryanl, no - it is how I treat anything that is not from within the release - get the original source
[07:16] <cycom> psusi: hrm...
[07:16] <hostix> gok gok gok
[07:16] <cy4n0> hello :)
[07:16] <cycom> TokenBad: why is it on a fat32 fs?
[07:16] <Northie> What's the difference between using the 686 and the 386 kernel?
[07:16] <nbound> Northie, 686 is optimized for Pentium Pro and above
[07:16] <ssam> it would be cool if the forums had something like ubotu for quick answers to common questions
[07:16] <nbound> Northie, it is marginally faster than 386
[07:17] <psusi> cycom, but if you really want, you should be able to lazy umount it ( umount -l ) then klogd -i -I to ask it to close and reopen the file... once closed the fs will be unmounted
[07:17] <TokenBad> I went from a windows system that had a fat32 slave..that I had alot of stuff on..and didn't want to delete..so I just deleted the OS drive...and kept the slave...
[07:17] <nbound> Northie, there is also a k7 one for AthXP's
[07:17] <Northie> nbound, Would the majority of programmes support 386 rather than 686?
[07:17] <Adsum> is there something up with the repositories?? It seems like i cant run apt-get update or install anything oO
[07:17] <infernall> where would i adjust the powersaving mode for console?  When i leave a display for 10 minutes, the screen blanks...this is a console only box... any suggestions?
[07:17] <tristanmike> Adsum, read the topic
[07:17] <nbound> Northie, afaik they will compile/run on both
[07:18] <Northie> nbound, all right, thanks.
[07:18] <nbound> Northie, dont quote me on it but =P
[07:18] <Adsum> tristanmike, sorry expected such a notice to be in the beginning or the end so i missed it, thanks
[07:18] <Northie> Heh.
[07:18] <cycom> psusi: the bind worked.  thank you. :)  I'd rather not mess with klogd if I can avoid it.
[07:19] <tristanmike> Adsum, no need to be sorry at all :) Just lettin' you know it was in the topic
[07:19] <Zonkle> Hi guys
[07:19] <nvez> jeez
[07:19] <nvez> mahjoong is such a timewaster
[07:19] <nvez> =p
[07:20] <Seveas> nvez, try xmoto - that waste even more time :)
[07:20] <Northie> Trying to install nvidia drivers on my ubuntu install. At "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[07:20] <Northie> " I get "Error: your X configuration has been altered.
[07:20] <Northie> " It invites me to update my md5sum for a bypass, and then the install works, but X is screwed up proper. Help.
[07:20] <Zonkle> any body here can help me with synaptic ??
[07:21] <Northie> Zonkle, what do you need?
[07:21] <nvez> Seveas, does it come with ubuntu or it needs aptgettin'?
[07:21] <Zonkle> Northie
[07:21] <Zonkle> thanks
[07:21] <mcdenyer> hey ubuntu noob here how do i upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10'?
[07:21] <Zonkle> there is an error shows up when i open it
[07:21] <Seveas> nvez, aptgetting (seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/custom/)
[07:21] <Zonkle> can i give u a link to the image of the error in the forums ?
[07:22] <Seveas> Zonkle, look at the topic of the channel
[07:22] <ssam> mcdenyer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:22] <Northie> Zonkle, sure, or use the topic's paste url.
[07:22] <mcdenyer> can someone pm me i dont know how to upgrade from 5.04 to 5.10
[07:22] <ssam> mcdenyer, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:22] <mcdenyer> ok ty
[07:22] <Zonkle> Seveas , sorry I didn't get what u mean
[07:23] <tristanmike> ubotu, tell mcdenyer about upgrade
[07:23] <Seveas> Zonkle, then read the topic again...
[07:23] <Northie> Oh. Ha.
[07:23] <Northie> Thanks, Seveas.
[07:23] <rabbit> has anyone here used Sawfish window manager??
[07:23] <nvez> Seveas, how can I write it well?
[07:23] <nvez> deb http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/custom/
[07:23] <Zonkle> Northie, you can see the error here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=110943
[07:23] <nvez> i'm sure it has spaces or something.
[07:23] <nvez>  :x
[07:24] <Seveas> nvez, look at the top of that page
[07:24] <LoPMX> hi, is anyone using gnustep here?
[07:24] <nvez> hrhr (A)
[07:24] <j2daosh> ok... got 2 questions... how to di make a shortcut to objects in my application/desktop? 2nd, how do i miount an .iso as a dvd?
[07:25] <nvez> W: GPG error: http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[07:25] <mcdenyer> 'ssam says i need the metapackages
[07:25] <nvez> is there a way to remove that annoying error?
[07:25] <mcdenyer> "ssam says i need the meta packages
[07:25] <Seveas> nvez, look at the top of that page...
[07:25] <Zonkle> Seveas, did you take a look ?
[07:25] <j2daosh> nvez... yeah you have to delete the keys
[07:25] <Northie> Zonkle, try again. There were some troubles with the archive server.
[07:25] <mcdenyer> how do i send messages in red :)?
[07:25] <Seveas> j2daosh, no, you have to add them :)
[07:25] <Seveas> mcdenyer, not.
[07:26] <tristanmike> mcdenyer, just type someone's name, and that line appears to them in red, like this one
[07:26] <ssam> mcdenyer, those are red on my screen :-)
[07:26] <phiber-optic> does any one know if gnome-look is down?
[07:26] <mcdenyer> do i use " or ' ?
[07:26] <nvez> doesnt say anything about GPG, Seveas.
[07:26] <Seveas> phiber-optic, it seems to be
[07:26] <rabbit> has anyone here used Sawfish window manager??
[07:26] <Zonkle> Northie, it happened many times ,, not jus this week or the one before ,, the one before it too !
[07:26] <Northie> Zonkle, actually, your post is two weeks old, so never mind. I'm sorry, I can't help.
[07:26] <Seveas> nvez, "also read the notice at the frontpage"
[07:26] <tristanmike> nvez, it should say something about adding the Key
[07:26] <ssam> mcdenyer, the meta packages are ubuntu-desktop kubuntu-desktop, if you have not removed them they should be installed
[07:26] <j2daosh> Seveas, yeah but sometimes they are outdated and you have to either delete or update... i have been to lazy to go into my sources.list file and delete the bad ones out
[07:26] <mcdenyer> ssam ok so do i just run the updater?
[07:27] <Seveas> j2daosh, it's about gpg keys, not repositories...
[07:27] <mcdenyer> ssam ok
[07:27] <j2daosh> oh yeah... i read the topic on the repos being down for a minute
[07:27] <ssam> mcdenyer, once you have chnage the "hoary"s to "breezy"s
[07:27] <mcdenyer> ssam does this message show up in red?
[07:28] <ssam> changed*
[07:28] <Zonkle> ... so no body has a clue ?
[07:28] <j2daosh> what is the command to mount an .iso as a dvd/cd?
[07:28] <ssam> mcdenyer, yes
[07:28] <mcdenyer> ssam lol ok
[07:28] <Seveas> Zonkle, hit the reload button in syanptic or do apt-get update. If that gives other errors: pastebin them
[07:28] <j2daosh> sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/hda1/movie /media/cd-rom2 ?
[07:28] <mcdenyer> ssam ok i just installed ubuntu 5.04 and am running the softwatre updates
[07:28] <j2daosh> look right to anyone? cuz it aint working...
[07:28] <mcdenyer> ssam then ill up[grade
[07:28] <ssam> mcdenyer, ok
[07:28] <lanjelot> what's the point of having a hwclockfirst.sh and a hwclock.sh in /etc/init.d/ ? (plus, there are almost the same)
[07:29] <Seveas> j2daosh, mount -o loop /path/to/filename.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[07:29] <Seveas> lanjelot, because they are both needed
[07:29] <j2daosh> no iso9660?
[07:29] <Seveas> one is before NTP, one after NTP
[07:29] <Seveas> j2daosh, it should detect that automagically
[07:29] <qkslvrwolf> is that perl channel an ubuntu specific channel, or no?
[07:29] <Seveas> qkslvrwolf, no
[07:29] <j2daosh> that would be sweet... gimme a sec
[07:30] <lanjelot> Seveas, but do you know why there are two  ?
[07:30] <Zonkle> Seveas, I did reload them many times .... and they look fine, but after I close Synaptic and open it few times ,, it gets messed up again
[07:30] <mcdenyer> i just installed ubuntu do i just need to run the software updates? or do i need to do more?
[07:30] <Seveas> Zonkle, then just hit reload again
[07:30] <lsuactiafner> i hate ntp on bootup, did chmod -x it but its annoying if no network connection exists
[07:30] <Seveas> one is before NTP, one after NTP <-- lanjelot
[07:30] <j2daosh> its telling me its a not a directory....
[07:30] <lsuactiafner> ubotu tell mcdenyer about easysource
[07:31] <hehe> thanks for the help re firefox!
[07:31] <ompaul> mcdenyer, you might want to add what are called repos, on the presumption that you have registered with nickserv I will now have the bot sent you a message, if you fail to get it you need to register
[07:31] <cycom> this is just bizzare.  Thunderbird claims that I have 10,000+ e-mails (I only have about 3000) and pegs my CPU 10 100%.  Won't go anywhere.
[07:31] <j2daosh> this is wrong with my command line seveas?  sudo mount -o loop /hda1/FANTASTIC_FOUR_169.ISO /media/cd-rom2
[07:32] <qkslvrwolf> yeah, didn't think so. They're old school linux...make fun of your lack of knowledge while helping
[07:32] <qkslvrwolf> always fun
[07:32] <ltibor65> Thanks, Dennis
[07:32] <_jason> j2daosh, mount to a directory not your cdrom
[07:32] <Zonkle> Seaves, this makes no sense !!
[07:32] <lanjelot> Seveas, hwclock and hwclockfirst are both launch in rcS, although ntpdate is started in rc2
[07:32] <j2daosh> its just what i call the drectory... not really a cd-rom
[07:32] <Zonkle> every time i open Synaptic I have to reload it from the internet !
[07:32] <qkslvrwolf> how come vim-gtk and vim-gnome conflict with vim-perl?
[07:33] <qkslvrwolf> just out of curiousity, doesn't really matter?
[07:33] <ompaul> Zonkle, it is only refereshing its info
[07:33] <cycom> Seveas: it would appear that you are very popular today.  There is a lot of your name and then 'AIEEEEE! THIS IS BROKEN!' :)
[07:33] <lsuactiafner> j2daosh : mplayer /hda1/FANTASTIC_FOUR_169.ISO -ovc copy -oac copy -of mpeg -noskip would dump it for you into mpeg2 (chances are it would)
[07:33] <j2daosh> still didn't work
[07:33] <lsuactiafner> j2daosh : use mencoder not mplayer
[07:34] <j2daosh> yeah but how do i mount that file though
[07:34] <j2daosh> lol dont make me say why
[07:34] <mcdenyer> should i do the smart upgrade or the default upgrade?
[07:34] <ubunt-new> hi all when i do from the $ history it shows what i done how do i clean the history
[07:34] <Deansweb2004> Hey guys, Im considering installing Ubuntu but does it support TV out?
[07:34] <Zonkle> ompaul, it takes long time, cuz it downloads about  3MB of info ... and I only have dial up
[07:35] <jariep1_> i have acpi disabled in BIOS, is it possible for it to still be activated by ubuntu/kubuntu
[07:35] <ubunt-new> hi all when i do from the $ history it shows what i done how do i clean the history
[07:35] <Seveas> lanjelot, then my memory is failing me :)
[07:36] <ompaul> Zonkle, you can run it there is a program called trickle that will restrict the bandwidth that it takes
[07:36] <lanjelot> no pb Seveas i'll search around a bit
[07:36] <Zonkle> ompaul thanks, can you please tell me more about it :S ? what does it do ?
[07:36] <lsuactiafner> j2daosh : if you use mencoder on it you dont need to mount it and the resulting file should work in any media player
[07:37] <ompaul> Zonkle, let me work out a command line for you
[07:37] <lsuactiafner> j2daosh : i think its a ufs file system though, try mount with -t ufs ?
[07:37] <ubunt-new> when i do from the $ history it shows what i done how do i clean the history
[07:37] <Zonkle> ompaul :) thankssssssssssss
[07:37] <mcdenyer> ssam do i do the default upgrades or the smart upgrade?
[07:38] <RustyJames> ubunt-new, if you want to clean the history type history -c
[07:38] <steve__> Isn't there any cedega like program that is free but still with direct-x support?
[07:38] <j2daosh> lsuactiafner, im not trying to just watch it.... lol why would i be wanting to mount it ::hint hint::
[07:38] <Deansweb2004> Hey guys, Im considering installing Ubuntu but does it support TV out?
[07:39] <j2daosh> ls
[07:39] <mjr> steve__, Wine. The directx support might be lacking some in comparison, but it is there.
[07:39] <Zonkle> Deansweb2004, I think it does
[07:39] <robertj> Deansweb2004: AFAIK it is a pain in the butt
[07:39] <Deansweb2004> You sure
[07:39] <Deansweb2004> ?
[07:39] <robertj> and it works on some hardware and not others
[07:39] <Deansweb2004> Oh
[07:39] <robertj> and you will almost definately have to hand edit xorg.conf
[07:39] <lsuactiafner> j2daosh : if you want to encode it use mencoder with better options then
[07:39] <steve__> mjr: how do I enable the direct x thingy in wine then?
[07:40] <ssam> mcdenyer, probably smart, i think thats equivilent to dist-upgrade
[07:40] <Zonkle> Deansweb2004, do u have nVidia ?
[07:40] <j2daosh> lsuactiafner, ok... im trying to burn it to a disc... i need to mount it to use dvdshrink
[07:40] <lsuactiafner> oh no idea then
[07:40] <mjr> steve__, by trying to use it
[07:40] <lsuactiafner> try to use dvdshrink on it as it is?
[07:40] <mcdenyer> ssam ok how will i know that ive upgraded once ive upgraded?
[07:40] <tristanmike> mcdenyer, you'll notice
[07:41] <mcdenyer>  ij
[07:41] <mcdenyer> ok
[07:41] <ssam> mcdenyer, breezy has lots of new stuff over hoary, you'll notice :-)
[07:41] <steve__> mjr: but it doesn't show direct x effects..
[07:41] <rabbit> has anyone here used Sawfish window manager??
[07:41] <Zonkle> ompaul, trickle just compress traffic right ?
[07:41] <ompaul> Zonkle, it appears not to want to work for me :( sry
[07:41] <lsuactiafner> rabbit : yes and i still prefer blackbox
[07:41] <ssam> rabbit, i think i used it in the olden days when it was the gnome window manager
[07:41] <ompaul> Zonkle, no it should keep the traffic in a steady state
[07:41] <mjr> steve__, I don't know what you're trying to say
[07:42] <ompaul> Zonkle, limit the transmission
[07:42] <rabbit> lsuactiafner: blackbox eh...
[07:42] <Zonkle> ompaul, isn't that slowing down the connection ?!
[07:42] <steve__> mjr: When I run my game with Wine, it doesn't show the light effects that you need directx to use.
[07:42] <rabbit> lsuactiafner:   I'm looking for a way to switch desktops by pusing my mouse on the edge of the screen
[07:42] <mark_us> i get an audio initialization error when i try to run audacity
[07:42] <lillis> hej nn svensk som kan hjlpa mig lite?
[07:42] <mark_us> any ideas?
[07:42] <Deansweb2004> Zonkle its Ati
[07:43] <Zonkle> ompaul, but the weird thing is why Synaptic gets messed up every time ?
[07:43] <ompaul> Zonkle, it slows down the transaction but then it does not hog your bandwidth so if you give it 1k then the rest is available for other things
[07:43] <rabbit> ssam:  what do you use now?
[07:43] <lillis> hej
[07:43] <Zonkle> ompaul, that is not what i want
[07:43] <jariep1__> Apache web server uses a UDP or TCP port for accessing web pages?
[07:43] <Zonkle> ompaul, but thanks for trying
[07:43] <mjr> steve__, quite possibly the game wants some yet unimplemented directx functionality. You might try a newer wine if yours isn't the latest.
[07:43] <Seveas> jariep1_, tcp
[07:43] <ssam> rabbit, openbox with fbpanel
[07:43] <HappyFool> lillis: unfortunately this is an English channel
[07:44] <jariep1__> Thank you, Seveas
[07:44] <rabbit> ssam, what's fbpanel?
[07:44] <ompaul> Zonkle, k
[07:44] <Seveas> lillis, try #ubuntu.se
[07:44] <ssam> rabbit, a lightweight panel with task manager and pager
[07:44] <lillis> thanks
[07:44] <Zonkle> so all ubuntu masters didn't hear about this error ?
[07:44] <rabbit> ssam:   I'm looking for a way to switch desktops by pusing my mouse on the edge of the screen
[07:44] <qkslvrwolf> is there a way to get the version of perl that does highlighting, etc in xterm?
[07:44] <qkslvrwolf> *vim
[07:44] <qkslvrwolf> not perl
[07:44] <HappyFool> ah. ubotu doesn't know about #ubuntu.se
[07:44] <Marlun> how can I see what version of the linux kernal is installed?
[07:45] <Seveas> Marlun, uname -r
[07:45] <ssam> rabbit, kde can do that
[07:45] <Zonkle> please
[07:45] <rabbit> I don't want kde ssam : P
[07:45] <Seveas> ssam, gnome too :)
[07:45] <bolsh> Solved the filesystem issue - I had been trying to use hpmount
[07:45] <rabbit> what do you use Seveas ?
[07:45] <bolsh> And have *almost* got the keymap the way I want it
[07:45] <ssam> rabbit, in openbox you can scroll wheel on the desktop to change desktops
[07:46] <Jemt> Hi. I need a program very similar to mspaint - any suggestions ?
[07:46] <bolsh> The euro sign is a sticky issue - it should be on Option-$
[07:46] <arrinmurr> steve__: try asking in #winehq
[07:46] <rabbit> ssam, that's interesting..  but I want to mouse over there..
[07:46] <napsy> Hi. Is there a free E-R modeling program for linux?
[07:46] <rabbit> ssam, can you do that with openbox?
[07:46] <Seveas> napsy, dia may work for you
[07:46] <Seveas> rabbit, brightside
[07:46] <Zonkle> can i re-install Synaptic :S:S???
[07:46] <Jemt> napsy: Entity Relations ?
[07:46] <ompaul> cycom, you may find this interesting http://www.dirac.org/linux/system.map/
[07:47] <napsy> Jemt: yup
[07:47] <Seveas> Zonkle, is your network connection often down?
[07:47] <Jemt> napsy: DBDesigner
[07:47] <Jemt> napsy: Give me a sec
[07:47] <napsy> ok
[07:47] <Zonkle> Yes Seveas, I have dial up
[07:47] <rabbit> Seveas, brightside eh..    that tracks your mouse all the time..  you don't mind that?
[07:47] <napsy> tried dia ... bot missing features
[07:47] <trans_err> What is the name of the tool that installs all the codecs, mplayer, all the restricted stuff, etc?
[07:47] <Coyctecm> will ubuntu dapper gnome be brown by default?
[07:47] <ssam> rabbit, i am not sure if you can do
[07:47] <Jemt> napsy: http://www.fabforce.net/dbdesigner4/
[07:47] <rabbit> Seveas, do you know if it's possible to uninstall Brightside?
[07:47] <Seveas> Zonkle, then that's it - known bug in the update manager: it removes all those lists when it attempts to update them. If the network connection is down - then there will be no new lists
[07:47] <napsy> Jemt: tnx :)
[07:48] <ssam> rabbit, swich desktops by pushing the edge of the screen
[07:48] <rabbit> ssam, huh?
[07:48] <ssam> rabbit, maybe there is a setting somewhere
[07:48] <Seveas> rabbit, of course, with syanptic or apt-get you can both install and uninstall it
[07:48] <Zonkle> trans_err, try Synaptic that comes with Ubuntu after u enable the Uninervse and Multiverse stuff
[07:48] <Jemt> napsy: You are very welcome :)
[07:48] <cycom> ompaul: thanks
[07:48] <omerix> how can i open a terminal where i want to open in gnome?
[07:48] <rabbit> Saveas..  what are the commands?
[07:48] <Seveas> omerix, what do you mean?
[07:48] <trans_err> Zonkle, no its a tool that was in the forums it sets everything up (java, mplayer plugin, dvd, everything) with one click
[07:49] <Zonkle> Seveas! what the hell !!!! .... but I didn't try to update the list when the connection was down
[07:49] <Seveas> rabbit, apt-get remove --purge brightside
[07:49] <rabbit> Saveas..  oh yeah.. I see it in synaptic
[07:49] <Seveas> Zonkle, no, but the auto-updater does that
[07:49] <ompaul> Jemt, there is a "paint" program from the menu >>applications - graphics - gnu paint <<
[07:49] <Zonkle> trans_err, Automix I think
[07:49] <rabbit> Seveas, thanks
[07:49] <trans_err> Zonkle, found it! Automatix
[07:49] <trans_err> Zonkle, thanks
[07:49] <Adsum> can anyone tell me why this command doesnt work: sudo mv ./usr /
[07:49] <Seveas> Zonkle, trans_err do NOT use automatix!
[07:49] <Zonkle> Seaveas you mean the Update Notifier ?!?
[07:49] <Seveas> automatix is an evil piece of crap
[07:49] <Jemt> omerix: Weird - don't have it
[07:49] <Dr_Willis> ewww :P
[07:49] <Seveas> Zonkle, yes
[07:49] <ompaul> !automatix
[07:49] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[07:49] <GameOver> hey guys i got a question.... i have my wireless working... used/using ndiswrapper... have it so it runs at startup
[07:50] <Jemt> ompaul: Is it similar to paint ?
[07:50] <Marlun> Seveas: thanks =)
[07:50] <GameOver> but to get it working i have to always run dhclient
[07:50] <Zonkle> Seaves, why not use Automix ? I don
[07:50] <GameOver> in terminal
[07:50] <GameOver> anyway i can just have it working from the get go?
[07:50] <Seveas> Zonkle, ubotu just said it
[07:50] <Zonkle> Seaveas, how can I solve my problem man ?
[07:50] <ompaul> Jemt, why not check it out
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> Zonkle,  its a bit of a nasty hack.
[07:50] <Seveas> Zonkle, not. Just reload the lists when this happens...
[07:50] <Marlun> Is it possible to remove the bell sound?
[07:50] <Seveas> Marlun, bell sound?
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Marlun,  of course. :p which bell?
[07:51] <Marlun> Seveas: yeah from the shell.
[07:51] <Zonkle> Ya I don't use Automix ,, I prefere Synaptic it is pretty good most of the time .... but i wish it gets updated faster
[07:51] <ompaul> Zonkle, when Seveas said it was "an evil piece of * " he was being very polite
[07:51] <Seveas> Zonkle, breezy will have no new verions, only security updates
[07:51] <Dr_Willis> Zonkle,  thats like comparing apple and oranges. :P
[07:51] <Zonkle> ompaul :D hahahaha
[07:51] <_jason> Marlun, if you use gnome terminal there is an option in the profile, otherwise mute the pc speaker
[07:51] <ompaul> Zonkle, you need to look at easyubuntu
[07:51] <Seveas> ompaul, and even that is an understatement
[07:52] <ompaul> !easyubuntu
[07:52] <ubotu> well, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[07:52] <Marlun> _jason: nope, i've not installed gnome yet, i'm at a server install.
[07:52] <Zonkle> ompau, look it for what ?
[07:52] <rabbit> Seveas, how do I switch back to metacity from sawfish?
[07:52] <Seveas> ompaul, wtf?
[07:52] <Marlun> _jason: how do I mute the pc-speaker?
[07:52] <ompaul> Seveas, well it is hard to say evil to infinity and beyond
[07:52] <Seveas> since when do we promote any of such crap?
[07:52] <_jason> Marlun, i *think*: xset b off,
[07:52] <Seveas> rabbit, about the same way you switched to sawfish :)
[07:52] <ompaul> Seveas ahh not looked at it myself (so doh)
[07:52] <_jason> Marlun, actually no, i just read the man, it's for X as the name implies.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Marlun,  different proggrams have diffent bell settings  that 'xset b 0'  will get the old style beeps hushed.
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> or set the beep to be less annoying. I like a short 'click' kind of beep.
[07:53] <omerix> Seveas: For example i'm in a directory, i want to open a terminal here, in kde this is possible but in gnome is this possible?
[07:53] <rabbit> Seveas, I'm trying:    $ killall sawfish && metacity &             but it says I already have a window manager
[07:53] <Marlun> Dr_Willis: I'm on a server install, will xset b 0 work there too? _jason just said it wont? =)
[07:53] <Dr_Willis> Marlun,  server install works under X
[07:53] <bolsh> What package do I need to install to get mp3, mpeg4 and other codecs supported in gstreamer?
[07:54] <bolsh> !mp3
[07:54] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:54] <Zonkle> Seaveas, in the update notifier I see lot of stuff, I should download them all ?
[07:54] <Marlun> Dr_Willis: yeah how can I set it to something less annoying? =)
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> marc_,  to kill a beep in the shell. theres a different command.
[07:54] <glick> hey how come in kde when i mount a device it doesnt get the permission of the user that mounted it but defaults to root?
[07:54] <Seveas> rabbit killall -9 sawfish && metacity &
[07:54] <glick> whats that all about?
[07:54] <Dr_Willis> Marlun,  check the xset  man pages. it has a feq/vol/time setting.
[07:54] <Zonkle> Seaveas, is there a way to make the update manually instead of automatacilly trying to connect and crashing my synaptic ??
[07:54] <Marlun> Dr_Willis: I tried but it sayd "No manual entry for xset"
[07:54] <rabbit> Seveas, nope didn't work
[07:55] <Marlun> said
[07:55] <Marlun> Ah, xset is not installed.
[07:55] <Zonkle> what are these two progress bars on the right in XChat????
[07:55] <glick> also on the kde desktop my mouse teleports to different parts of the screen
[07:55] <glick> why does it do that and how can i fix it? its annoying as hell
[07:55] <_jason> Zonkle, hover over them with your mouse
[07:56] <Zonkle> _jason I did nothing...
[07:56] <omerix> Seveas: For example i'm in a directory, i want to open a terminal here, in kde this is possible but in gnome is this possible?
[07:56] <_jason> Zonkle, top is lag, bottom is 'network send queue'
[07:56] <Marlun> _jason, Dr_Willis: thanks for the help, I'll install xset and see if it works =)
[07:56] <midwinter> omerix install nautilus-open-terminal
[07:56] <Zonkle> _jason what is lag :S
[07:56] <Seveas> omerix, yes, but I don't remember how ...
[07:57] <_jason> Zonkle, latency
[07:57] <Zonkle> Seaveas, is there a way to make the update manually instead of automatacilly trying to connect and crashing my synaptic ??
[07:57] <Zonkle> _jason thanks :):)
[07:57] <Enzo> bonjour
[07:57] <_jason> !fr
[07:57] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:57] <Seveas> Zonkle, no
[07:57] <martin__> Hello, can anyone help me with installing ruby on my apache server?
[07:57] <Enzo> au sorry
[07:58] <omerix> midwinter: can i add into right click menu?
[07:58] <matthewjames> GnomeFreak: i still cant get xserver to work
[07:58] <dbzdeath> hey what's the command to set which version of gcc to run ?
[07:58] <midwinter> omerix, yes it does it for you
[07:58] <Seveas> dbzdeath, export CC=gcc-3.4 (or gcc-4.0)
[07:58] <Zonkle> Seaveas, in the update notifier I see lot of stuff, I should download them all ?
[07:58] <martin__> I've tried to download mod-ruby with synaptic, but my apache-server still won't run rhtml-pages properly
[07:58] <matthewjames> has anyone here had problems with starting the xserver?
[07:58] <dbzdeath> Seveas: cheers
[07:59] <adriyel> I have a question
[07:59] <adriyel> there is a gnome app
[07:59] <_jason> !enter
[07:59] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:59] <adriyel> that creates a bottom bar that looks like the one from Mac OS X
[07:59] <matthewjames> has anyone here had problems with starting the xserver?
[07:59] <Gridblock> hello
[07:59] <adriyel> does anyone know what the name of that app is?
[07:59] <tristanmike> adriyel, gdesklets
[08:00] <adriyel> tristanmike, is it in the repo?
[08:00] <matthewjames> Ubotu:have u had problems with xserver?
[08:00] <ubotu> matthewjames: I give up, what is it?
[08:00] <trans_err> adriyel, yes
[08:00] <adriyel> cool
[08:00] <tristanmike> adriyel, it's in there somewhere I believe
[08:00] <glick> does anyone have the same problem
[08:00] <glick> with the mouse
[08:00] <martin__> Can anyone enlighten me on what to do to make rhtml-pages function on my Apache-server?
[08:00] <adriyel> universe/multiverse?
[08:00] <HappyFool> matthewjames: ubotu is a bot (a computer program)
[08:00] <glick> ??
[08:00] <matthewjames> Ubotu: I cant get it to start, so i can t use ubuntu
[08:00] <ubotu> I don't know, matthewjames
[08:00] <trans_err> adriyel, look
[08:01] <rabbit> Seveas, killall -9 didn't work for switching back to metacity
[08:01] <matthewjames> oh
[08:01] <tristanmike> adriyel, which version of Ubuntu are you running
[08:01] <adriyel> well
[08:01] <matthewjames> well can someone help me with getting xserver yo work, so i can use ubuntu?
[08:01] <adriyel> I WILL be running 5.10
[08:01] <glick> can anyone see me?
[08:01] <jariep1___> how do I execute the B.U.M. Boot up manager in Kubuntu, it seems to freeze up on me when I run it from shell?
[08:01] <_jason> glick, we canr ead what you type
[08:01] <atfa> hello
[08:01] <tristanmike> adriyel, by the way, it's in universe, and it you plan on installing gdesklets in 5.04, beware of "gdesklets-data"
[08:02] <adriyel> nah, I'll be on 5.10
[08:02] <ompaul> matthewjames, are you looking at a "terminal" all black with a login screen or is it worse than that
[08:02] <glick> aparently the firewire automounter works differently in gnome as it does in kde
[08:02] <glick> which i dont understand why
[08:02] <ompaul> jariep1___,  you will need sudo with it
[08:02] <adriyel> thanks for your help guys
[08:03] <jariep1___> ompaul, thatompaul, thanks
[08:03] <atfa> which kernel will come with dapper?
[08:03] <ttaulman> anybody running ubuntu clients from ubuntu server?
[08:03] <tristanmike> Can someone help with a complete back up of my Ubuntu system.....I want to install Breezy fresh, but I'm really happy with my current setup and if things go whacky, I'd like to go back to where I started
[08:03] <jariep1___> oops sorry for typoo
[08:03] <martin__> Do anyone here have an apache 2.0 server with mod_ruby running in Ubuntu 5.10? In that case; can you tell me how you made it run rhtml-pages properly? When I try to open rhtml-files on my server, the code doesn't run, I just see all the source code!
[08:03] <ompaul> jariep1___, enjoy
[08:03] <matthewjames> the terminal screen ompaul
[08:04] <Zonkle> hmm any body uses Sancho ?
[08:04] <ompaul> matthewjames, so log in and try running this >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[08:04] <matthewjames> k, brb ompaul
[08:05] <atfa> which kernel will come with dapper? if it is higher than 2.6.13. Will Inotify be enabled by default?
[08:05] <hanker> I am trying to install wine, and have used the information from wiki.ubuntu.com/wine However, there is no 'wine' package available to install. Can anyone point me int he right direction?
[08:05] <adriyel> hanker, do you have the proper repo's enabled?
[08:05] <adriyel> ubotu tell hanker about repos
[08:05] <ssam> atfa, 2.6.15
[08:06] <atfa> atfa@nova-system:~$ apt-cache search wine
[08:06] <hanker> adriyel: I have deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt binary/ in sources.list as the documentation says
[08:06] <atfa> wine - Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)
[08:06] <hanker> I don't get that atfa :(
[08:06] <ompaul> !info linux dapper
[08:06] <ubotu> linux: (Generic complete Linux kernel.), section restricted/base, is optional. Version: 2.6.15.9 (dapper), Packaged size: 22 kB, Installed size: 52 kB
[08:06] <atfa> hanker: did you sudo apt-get update
[08:06] <Gh0sT> for some reason my DNS servers stop working randomly after a certain ammount of time
[08:06] <hanker> atfa: Yes
[08:06] <Gh0sT> anyone know how to fix that?
[08:06] <ompaul> atfa, that any use to you?
[08:07] <Hoxzer> what would be easy to use and hight quality CD to mp3 ripper for ubuntu?
[08:07] <lillis> #ubuntu.se
[08:07] <Gh0sT> anyone?
[08:08] <atfa> ompaul, Yes, how ever I wanna if I-notify will be enabled by default, Beagle run much better with that option enabled
[08:08] <trans_err> Hoxzer, soundjuicer is a fine GUI ripper
[08:08] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:08] <Kyral> atfa: I think its enabled even in Breezy
[08:08] <ompaul> Hoxzer, nautilus - should be launched when you stick in a blank CD
[08:08] <atfa> Kyral, in brezzy the kernel is 2.6.12
[08:08] <ompaul> Hoxzer, sorry not reading you right
[08:08] <Hoxzer> :D
[08:08] <Kyral> atfa: Your point?
[08:08] <Gh0sT> :<
[08:09] <atfa> "Inotify is a file notification system for the Linux kernel. As of 2.6.13-rc3, it is included in the stable Linux kernel series"
[08:09] <Kyral> atfa: Its been patched
[08:09] <ompaul> Gh0sT, no idea I would be looking at log files to try and figure out why
[08:09] <Kyral> its in the Breezy kernel. trust me ;P
[08:09] <Gh0sT> every 10 hours or so, my dns servers stop working, but when i reboot they're fine
[08:09] <atfa> :O that's good
[08:09] <trans_err> Gh0sT, don't keep asking-- if someone knows they'll answer
[08:09] <Kyral> the Kernel isn't Vanilla
[08:09] <Gh0sT> im not asing.
[08:09] <Gh0sT> asking *
[08:09] <Gh0sT> im giving more information.
[08:09] <adriyel> another question, what will be required in order to get GDesklets looking like the MacOSX genie bar?
[08:09] <gOofytj> most awesome linux command
[08:09] <gOofytj> touch penis
[08:10] <Kyral> adriyel: Starterbar?
[08:10] <hanker> atfa: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7178
[08:10] <sweet_kate> how can i see my installed packages in order of size?
[08:10] <trans_err> adriyel, search for the appropriate widget
[08:10] <ompaul> Gh0sT, I suggested you look at your log files - we do not have a conversation going on, just a comment
[08:10] <hanker> that shows that I have the proper line in sources.list, and that wine doesn't show up in an apt-cache search wine  :(
[08:10] <Gh0sT> which log file
[08:11] <Kyral> sweet_kate: I don't know if a functionality for that...
[08:11] <midwinter> hanker, are you running 64 bit ubuntu by any chance
[08:11] <ompaul> Gh0sT, I will have to log into my dns box to find out - it being debian it should not be too different you could start looking in /var/logs/ObviousName
[08:11] <mcdenyer> i cant get ubuntu 5.10 to boot form cs
[08:11] <Gh0sT> ty
[08:11] <mcdenyer> cd*
[08:11] <cyphase> is there any easy way to share files between different users on the same computer?
[08:11] <mcdenyer> i can get 5.04 to boot but not 510
[08:11] <cyphase> without using the terminal
[08:11] <trans_err> mcdenyer, make sure 1. the cd is good and 2. your BIOS are proper
[08:11] <Kyral> cyphase: make a folder thats chmod 777?
[08:12] <cyphase> Kyral, well, yea..
[08:12] <mcdenyer> tran_err it is
[08:12] <_jason> cyphase, right click on a folder check everything for permissions
[08:12] <sweet_kate> kyncani: what?
[08:12] <cyphase> but that's kind of clunky
[08:12] <cyphase> :P
[08:12] <cyphase> nvm
[08:12] <Kyral> cyphase: howso?
[08:12] <cyphase> i don't know what i really mean
[08:12] <cyphase> :)
[08:12] <cyphase> well, basically..
[08:13] <Hoxzer> can I rip mp3s with soundjuicer?
[08:13] <adriyel> trans_err, whats the name of the appropiate widget, because I am not finding what I am looking for?
[08:13] <Kyral> adriyel: Starterbar
[08:13] <Kyral> If "Geniebar" is what I think it is
[08:13] <ompaul> Gh0sT, do this >> sudo grep named *<< then have a look
[08:13] <sweet_kate> kyncani: what?
[08:13] <sweet_kate> kyncani: what?
[08:13] <sweet_kate> kyncani: what?
[08:13] <hanker> Does ubuntu have any wine version by default? I am using breezy
[08:14] <Kyral> kyncani ?
[08:14] <cyphase> have a nautilus path, for example localusers:/// , with folders for each user that has it enabled
[08:14] <adriyel> wtf?
[08:14] <midwinter> hanker, are you using 64 bit breezy?
[08:14] <Kyral> cyphase: I don't use nautilus lol
[08:14] <Kyral> thats clunky
[08:14] <Kyral> I'd just make a shared folder
[08:14] <hanker> midwinter: Yes
[08:14] <matthewjames> Ompaul: it still craahes, it says "caught signal 11, aborting" and later it says "error locking onto aurthority file
[08:14] <cyphase> so the user named kyral can move a file to so, localusers:///cyphase
[08:14] <hanker> i suppose that is the problem? ugh. reinstall time?
[08:14] <cyphase> oops
[08:14] <Kyral> cyphase: thats.....really...clunky
[08:15] <cyphase> to localusers:/// *
[08:15] <midwinter> hanker, that's why you are not able to see wine - it's a 32 bit app
[08:15] <Kyral> mkdir foo && chmod 777 foo
[08:15] <Kyral> Done ;P
[08:15] <cyphase> Kyral, i know, i was just giving an example of what i meant
[08:15] <hanker> midwinter: makes sense now. never crossed my mind. What options do I have? reinstall 32bit?
[08:15] <Kyral> then just use mv and cp
[08:15] <glick> excuse me
[08:15] <Gh0sT> hmm
[08:15] <Gh0sT> nothing happened
[08:15] <Kyral> or symlink it in thier homedirs
[08:15] <cyphase> Kyral, not everyone is like you and me and use the terminal
[08:15] <adriyel> Kyral I am find RPM Repo's, misc gnome rpm's
[08:15] <adriyel> nothing interesting
[08:15] <matthewjames> Ompaul: it still craahes, it says "caught signal 11, aborting" and later it says "error locking onto aurthority file
[08:15] <glick> why is it now when i plug in a firewire drive i dont have permission to write to it anymore?
[08:16] <Kyral> adriyel: for GDesklets?
[08:16] <cyphase> most people think a terminal is at an airport
[08:16] <benel> how can i manage the resolution of my rgb output?
[08:16] <Kyral> adriyel: go to the main Desklets site (Google for it, I honestly don't know it off the top of my head)
[08:16] <nosralboo> can someone walk me through the steps of setting up netscape webmail with evolution?
[08:16] <Kyral> cyphase: I know
[08:16] <Kyral> once you make the folder
[08:16] <adriyel> Kyral I am at the site
[08:16] <ompaul> matthewjames, the comment after sig 11 is only because of the sig 11 so it is not the place to look
[08:16] <Kyral> make symlinks in the homedirs
[08:17] <midwinter> hanker, well possibly, or a 32 bit chroot (a bit of work..), but also I believe you can get wine to work on 64 bit but might be a bit risky.
[08:17] <Kyral> adriyel: you should be able to just drag the download links into the GDesklets shell to install
[08:17] <matthewjames> Ompaul: so how can i fix this signal 11?
[08:17] <hanker> midwinter: ok. I will reinstall 32bit then. That was the first thing I attempted when I set this up was for WoW in wine :)
[08:17] <hanker> be back later. thanks for info midwinter :)
[08:17] <Gh0sT> lol the DNS servers just messed up again
[08:17] <Gh0sT> alright well im going to stop annoying you guys
[08:18] <Gh0sT> thanks for the effort.
[08:18] <Darky469> hello  all
[08:18] <matthewjames> Ompaul: so what can i do?
[08:18] <katie> I dunno what's going on, this happens with loads of stuff
[08:18] <katie> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7179 < anybody that can help thanks
[08:19] <ompaul> matthewjames, http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2004/12/msg00368.html  <<--- it is a fault in a program but this may give you a clue of some sort, it is not about bind but the frame of mind needed - it may be a bug but have a look at that - I would change nics just to see if it went away as a nic is cheap but hey others would not
[08:19] <mcdenyer> how do u get pasdt the 3rd level in tux racer?
[08:19] <Kyral> mcdenyer: uhh
[08:19] <Kyral> mcdenyer: this is a tech support chan ;P
[08:19] <mcdenyer> lol
[08:19] <ompaul> mcdenyer, being better
[08:19] <matthewjames> Ompaul: nic?
[08:19] <Kyral> Katie: do you have Universe and Multiverse activated?
[08:19] <ompaul> matthewjames, network interface the network card
[08:19] <aTypical> Katie, sounds like that package isn't in the sources you have enabled.
[08:20] <Katie> erm, how do i find that out? also how do i enable it?
[08:20] <Katie> sources.list? or soemthing
[08:20] <crispoe> Hola all
[08:20] <Kyral> !repos
[08:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:20] <freemanen> then does flight 3 come?
[08:21] <tristanmike> Can someone help with a complete back up of my Ubuntu system.....I want to install Breezy fresh, but I'm really happy with my current setup and if things go whacky, I'd like to go back to where I started, any takers?
[08:21] <Kyral> tristanmike: tar the thing?
[08:21] <matthewjames> Ompaul: what would that have to do with it?
[08:21] <mark__> I am tryin gto get standby mode to work, it works fine the first time, byt when I try to suspend it for the second it says "stopping tasks" and can't stop some of them (ide_info usually)
[08:21] <mcdenyer> does the 510 boot cd have to have a certain nam3e?
[08:21] <mcdenyer> cuase mine wont boot
[08:21] <Kyral> mcdenyer: eh?
[08:21] <Katie> thanks a lot, i was a bit stuck there :D
[08:22] <Katie> this is also the reson why i couldn't install other pacakges
[08:22] <crispoe> having some weird issues with nvidia drivers.. when I close my laptop using the drivers from nvidia, sometimes the machine will just display a black screen. I cannot switch terminals, so I have to hard boot... when using the nv driver this does not happen.
[08:22] <Kyral> mcdenyer: did you burn the image as an ISO? Or did you burn the ISO itself (as data)
[08:22] <mcdenyer> kyral i cant boot form cd using 510
[08:22] <tristanmike> Kyral, yeah, I'm on the wiki, but it leaves unanswered questions, and I assue that's for a linux only system, so it's getting grub back and all, on a partition
[08:22] <Kyral> tristanmike: grub won't be wiped out
[08:22] <Kyral> its in the MBR
[08:22] <mcdenyer> Kyral mmmm i dont know
[08:23] <ompaul> matthewjames, what is the result of uname -a
[08:23] <mcdenyer> kyral to late now thought i guess
[08:23] <tristanmike> Kyral, right, but when I install breezy, it will install a new grub, one that I'm guessing, won't be compatible after the restore, if there is one
[08:23] <tamale> hello everyone!   I would like some assistance in getting my gigabit PCI ethernet adapter working.  The model number is Linksys EG1032, and I found a page that makes mention of it being a very simple install, mentioning "Enabling CONFIG_NS83820"...  that page can be found here:  http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=0            does anyone know if "enabling" this is some kind of a module that needs to get installed, some 
[08:23] <ompaul> matthewjames, it is either software or hardware
[08:23] <Drgb> hi everyone, I just switched my sources in sources.list from "breezy" to "dapper", then i ran apt-get update and apt-get dist-upgrade...it installed something like 100mb of stuff, then gave me two errors, one for "dpkg" and the other one for "at", then I rebooted and X could not start and gave me three errors about some missing modules....can someone help me?
[08:23] <ompaul> !dapper
[08:23] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. It's going to be released on April 20, 2006. Not before. Use at your _own_ risk before the release date.
[08:23] <Kyral> yah :P
[08:23] <Kyral> what ubotu said
[08:24] <tristanmike> lol
[08:24] <tygryss> hi, I need help, I installed nvidia-glx, change the xorg.conf, restarting X, but X didn't run. can't open /dev/nvidia0 ... I use Ubuntu 5.10
[08:24] <crispoe> any cool new stuff in dapper?
[08:24] <mcdenyer> kyral to upgrade to 510 do i just goto the package manager and do the smart upgrade?
[08:24] <sklav> Hey guys anybody have a ubuntu link for freevo that works?
[08:24] <Kyral> mcdenyer: after changing Sources.list
[08:24] <Kyral> crispoe: kinda
[08:24] <matthewjames> Ompaul: startx command will work with slackware
[08:24] <mcdenyer> kyral hmm
[08:24] <eZe> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/SMB-HOWTO-9.html - i am trying to do this, but I don't know how to setup a samba account for a windows user
[08:24] <crispoe> ?
[08:24] <crispoe> oops
[08:24] <Kyral> crispoe: lol it comes kinda slowly so I don't notice
[08:24] <mcdenyer> kyral im going to reinstall i think
[08:24] <sklav> !freevo
[08:24] <ubotu> I don't know, sklav
[08:24] <sorush20> how do i erase a dvd-rw?
[08:24] <HappyFool> tygryss: at a guess, the nvidia kernel module isn't loaded
[08:24] <cowbud> For whatever reason k3b does not want to recognize mp3 files when I want to burn a audio CD is there some package that needs to be installed for this?
[08:24] <Kyral> then again I also don't run the Normal setup
[08:24] <eZe> !samba
[08:24] <tristanmike> mcdenyer, change all the "Hoary" to "Breezy", that's all
[08:24] <ubotu> rumour has it, samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:24] <HappyFool> tygryss: is the line 'nvidia' in /etc/modules?
[08:24] <ompaul> matthewjames, that is so left of field I have no idea what you are talking about
[08:25] <matthewjames> another form of linux, it works
[08:25] <lillis> #ubuntu.se
[08:25] <ompaul> matthewjames, what is the result of uname -a
[08:25] <matthewjames> ?
[08:25] <tygryss> HappyFool, yes
[08:25] <tygryss> there is
[08:25] <Stc> hello
[08:25] <Stc> my error
[08:26] <Stc> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (100)
[08:26] <HappyFool> tygryss: and does 'lsmod|grep nvidia' show the module ?
[08:26] <Stc> "Could not execute dpkg!"
[08:26] <Stc> how i can do ? dapper..
[08:26] <ompaul> matthewjames, ahh that is new information report a bug >>launchpad.net <<
[08:26] <Kyral> Sometimes I dislike dealing with Dapper questions lol
[08:26] <Kyral> I want to go "This is the risk you accepted" but I cannot :P
[08:26] <tygryss> HappyFool,  yes : nvidia               3711364  0
[08:26] <crispoe> i was just going to install in vmware
[08:27] <crispoe> heehe
[08:27] <Seveas> Stc, If you can't solve such things by yourself, please stick to the stable variant of Ubuntu
[08:27] <thechitowncubs> is there any way I can restrict the upload speed my server lets out
[08:27] <eZe> !cups
[08:27] <ubotu> I don't know, eZe
[08:28] <sorush20> how do I get intouch with a package maintainer?
[08:28] <HappyFool> tygryss: hmm. how about ls /dev/nvidia0 ?
[08:28] <tygryss> exist
[08:28] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - but I can't find it anywhere in the wiki
[08:28] <pixscooby> anyone know if there is a libdvdcss2 for amd64?
[08:28] <tygryss> so there it is
[08:28] <psusi> sorush20, email them
[08:28] <tygryss> root@maci:~# ls /dev/nvidia0
[08:28] <tygryss>                         /dev/nvidia0
[08:28] <HappyFool> tygryss: how about 'ls -l /dev/nvidia0' ? (shows permissions too)
[08:29] <tamale> what's syskonnect ?
[08:29] <sorush20> psusi I need to get in touch with a maintainer anand kumria because he maintains the gtkgnutella and that packge is out of date..
[08:29] <Stc> Seveas, ehm, now how i can do ?
[08:29] <sweet_kate> how can i unistall ooo? selecting one package
[08:29] <_jason> Is it possible for me to run my existing windows install in a window in ubuntu.  Should I to look into things like qemu and/or vmware or do these programs perform different tasks?
[08:29] <tygryss> crw-------  1 root root 195, 0 2006-01-15 16:27 /dev/nvidia0
[08:29] <sweet_kate> ?
[08:29] <sorush20> how do I request a package?
[08:29] <tygryss> maybe chown ?
[08:29] <midwinter> _jason: yes look into those
[08:30] <HappyFool> tygryss: hmm. mine is rw-rw-rw-  (i.e., much more permissive)
[08:30] <_jason> midwinter, thanks
[08:30] <HappyFool> tygryss: chmod
[08:30] <Seveas> Stc, reinstall.
[08:30] <HappyFool> tygryss: it's not clear why yours would be different
[08:30] <thegladiator> hi friends
[08:30] <tamale> can anyone decipher this page and explain how to get my EG1032 gigabit ethernet adapter working in ubuntu?
[08:30] <psusi> sorush20, the breezy package is out of date or the dapper one is?
[08:30] <midwinter> _jason: there's a good thread on the forum about setting up vmware
[08:30] <Seveas> sorush20, wiki.ubuntu.com/{MOTU,UniverseCandidates}
[08:30] <tygryss> chmod +rw /dev/nvidia0 ?
[08:30] <pixscooby> is there a repository with libdvdcss2 for amd64?
[08:30] <tamale> http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=05245&st=0
[08:30] <HappyFool> tygryss: sounds right
[08:31] <_jason> midwinter, ok, I'll look for it
[08:31] <sorush20> psusi: the breezy package..
[08:31] <psusi> sorush20, what about the dapper package?
[08:31] <Drgb> I need to install dpkg, but when I run apt-get install dpkg it says "failed to exec dpkg!"
[08:31] <Drgb> how can I install dpkg without dpkg?
[08:31] <sorush20> not sure really I do't have dapper repositories since its unstable..
[08:31] <psusi> Drgb, you don't silly
[08:31] <thegladiator> i have got this doubt , whenever I login to linux , I see the internet data traffic higher than my windows . does linux use the network interface for data transfer within the computer or something ?
[08:32] <psusi> Drgb, dpkg is installed in any non broken ubuntu/debian install
[08:32] <tygryss> HappyFool,  crw-rw-rw-  1 root root 195, 0 2006-01-15 16:27 /dev/nvidia0
[08:32] <Chousuke_> thegladiator: no.
[08:32] <Drgb> psusi, yep, mine is broken in fact i need help
[08:32] <tygryss> this may be will correct ?
[08:32] <psusi> Drgb, oh boy.... reinstall ;)
[08:32] <braniff> Here is the problem:::: One computer on my LAN can ping every other computer on my LAN, but no other computers can ping it (or ssh it etc). Other computers get an icmp_dest_unreachable message...What should i do??
[08:32] <TokenBad> is it hard to use ubuntu to make a ntfs partition on a drive?
[08:32] <thegladiator> i mean linux steadily shows a traffic (receieved  packets) just keep changing all the time , even if the machine is idle
[08:32] <Chousuke> thegladiator: it does use a loopback interface however.
[08:32] <antisocial_boris> how can i change the noise when ubuntu starts up?
[08:33] <Drgb> psusi, that was the last thing i wanted to do....
[08:33] <HappyFool> tygryss: well, you can try starting X again (  /etc/init.d/gdm start ), but thinking about it -- X runs as root anyway. still, try it and see
[08:33] <thegladiator> i see. I didnt do much on the system
[08:33] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - but I can't find it anywhere in the wiki
[08:33] <matthewjames> Ompaul: would the hotplug subsystem not starting afect the xserver?
[08:33] <psusi> braniff, turn off the busted ass firewall on that computer
[08:33] <thegladiator> does loopback occur in my system ? but when is that required?
[08:33] <thegladiator> i just use irc and webbrowser
[08:33] <vladuz976> is there something like the 5.04 guide for breezy?
[08:33] <psusi> TokenBad, linux can not write to ntfs partitions
[08:33] <_jason> antiQrist, system -> prefs -> sound : sound events
[08:33] <tygryss> HappyFool,  ok I will test it
[08:33] <Seveas> vladuz976, help.ubuntu.com
[08:33] <psusi> thegladiator, that's because there's traffic on your network
[08:33] <thegladiator> or does firefox deal badly with cachin ? something to improve that ?
[08:34] <midwinter> _jason: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=84275 it works well, I did it a few days ago.
[08:34] <thegladiator> psusi, but in windows i get almost half data rate when I am idle
[08:34] <thegladiator> even lesser
[08:34] <_jason> midwinter, great, thanks for the link
[08:34] <matthewjames> Ompaul: would the hotplug subsystem not starting afect the xserver?
[08:34] <thegladiator> a 3-4hr session in windows with just IRC shows 5 mb in linux it shows 20 MB
[08:34] <psusi> thegladiator, it's probably just counting it differently.. what are you looking at for this number in ubuntu?
[08:34] <braniff> psusi, turning off the firewall does not change the situation
[08:35] <TokenBad> psusi ok how about making a linux partition and if I did can it handle a 4.4 gig file?
[08:35] <tamale>  please, can someone explain how I'm supposed to "enable config_ns83820"  in ubuntu  5.10 ?
[08:35] <thegladiator> psusi : connection properties : eth0
[08:35] <thegladiator> and in linux LAN status
[08:35] <psusi> braniff, then you didn't get it turned off all the way
[08:35] <thegladiator> windows *
[08:35] <ompaul> matthewjames, I had you mixed up with someone else - - and yes hotplug may have something to do with it
[08:35] <NoWhereMan> hi all
[08:35] <psusi> TokenBad, yes
[08:36] <thegladiator> psusi i use ethernet properties in gnome to monitor this and in windows its LAN status monitor , both are like 2 small computers blinking...the icons i mean
[08:36] <matthewjames> Ompaul: k, becuase when ubuntu is loading, it does not have a ok next to hotplug subsystem
[08:36] <TokenBad> psusi, do I need to get a tool to do it?
[08:36] <thegladiator> are these 2 counting different parameteres ?
[08:37] <NoWhereMan> Q: i'm reading of an issue with thumb drives and kernel >2.6.12 , I should switch from sync'ed mount to async ; but I use udev and they say I should set false in the policy file... erm? where is this "policy" thing?
[08:37] <vladuz976> you guys think ubuntu is right for someone who has no clue about computers whatsoever? i wanna put ubuntu on my mom's new computer so she doesn't have to pay for windows and office
[08:37] <Definity> hi
[08:37] <thegladiator> hot plug doesnt show ok in my system as well i thinking its just a menu ...the ones that comes listed below are the sub sections
[08:37] <psusi> TokenBad, you probably want gparted... if you have a livecd, boot off that and gparted is on there... or you can install it via synaptic
[08:37] <thegladiator> vladuz976, it wouldnt be easy . try xandros for ur mom
[08:38] <Definity> yeh
[08:38] <thegladiator> if u cant afford windows
[08:38] <tamale> vladuz976:  I'd say yes, as long as you are willing to help her figure things out too :] 
[08:38] <TokenBad> psusi, ok thanks I have ubuntu installed so will have to download it...thanks for your help..
[08:38] <psusi> vladuz976, yes...
[08:38] <Definity> or dos
[08:38] <matthewjames> Ompaul: k, becuase when ubuntu is loading, it does not have a ok next to hotplug subsystem, what do i do?
[08:38] <vladuz976> thegladiator: i will install it obviously but the rest
[08:38] <ompaul> matthewjames, /etc/init.d/hotplug start why is it not starting itself
[08:38] <Drgb> ok, this is my last question, i need to install an sshd to backup my files on another computer...but I can't use apt-get...any suggestions?
[08:38] <braniff> psusi, this is an ubuntu box, and using *firestarter* to turn off the firewall doesn't change anything...could firestarter be broken?
[08:38] <thegladiator> i know . rest if she has to take care of , then dont think its wise
[08:38] <vladuz976> tamale: she is not gonna do much, except for browsing the web and using openoffice i think
[08:38] <psusi> braniff, could be
[08:38] <crispoe> mac os x ... macs are good for moms :) but on the pc.. windows with all the spyware and virus sw installed.
[08:39] <thegladiator> ubuntu needs some comp experience IMO
[08:39] <psusi> I never used firestarter
[08:39] <thegladiator> vladuz976, then you can just do some config and give i to her
[08:39] <tamale> vladuz976:  Then just make sure you get it set up properly, and show her "around"
[08:39] <lillis> #ubuntu.se
[08:39] <thegladiator> vladuz976, like basic things thats needed , open ofice will be there always
[08:39] <tamale> so, does anyone know how to get my gigabit ethernet adapter working?
[08:39] <tamale> or would be willing to help?
[08:39] <vladuz976> tamale: yeah that is what i thought, but sometimes updates break stuff and then i won't be around to fix it
[08:40] <HappyFool> lillis:   /join #ubuntu.se
[08:40] <thegladiator> vladuz976, ensuer the net connetion is configured and if she needs to listen to songs movies etc...few stuffs for that and also java
[08:40] <NoWhereMan> nobody knows of this pendrive issue?
[08:40] <tamale> vladuz:  She shouldn't need too many updates if u get things running smoothly
[08:40] <thegladiator> these are the esentials when u consider a desktop
[08:40] <thegladiator> flash as well
[08:40] <crispoe> does you mom play games on msn, or expect to get streaming windows media.. video etc?
[08:40] <vladuz976> thegladiator: yeah that stuff for sure,
[08:41] <vladuz976> crispoe: no way
[08:41] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - but I can't find it anywhere in the wiki
[08:41] <thegladiator> yeah then spend like 3-4 hours configuring the system and ur mom cud easily work
[08:41] <Stc> tnx Seveas ;) bye bye
[08:41] <TokenBad> psusi, ok I got gparted but don't see how to use it to make a linux partition on the drive
[08:41] <metho> how do i know which software i have installed
[08:41] <Linfanguin> is there away to show album cover using rhythmbo
[08:42] <thegladiator> metho, if you dont remeber then who will ? lol
[08:42] <thegladiator> metho, any idea what type of  software it was ?
[08:42] <tamale> argh.. why is no one answering me :[
[08:42] <Linfanguin> is there away to show album art when using rhythmbox?
[08:43] <Linfanguin> ay plug ins? or desktlets
[08:43] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - how can I do this?
[08:43] <sylwae> join #debian-fr
[08:43] <ompaul> metho, look in symantic or >>dpkg -l << which you can do dpkg -l | grep packagename
[08:43] <ernst> hi i am looking for a kind of "RSS Visualizer" from apple for Linux
[08:44] <ernst> anyone know something like that?
[08:44] <metho> no i mean, is there a directory which holds the files and names of the installed software like program files in windows
[08:44] <thegladiator> i have some hiccups when I am watching movies . sometimes totem refuses to open and it might quit into the shell and restart X . other times it works well . has ayone had this thin?
[08:44] <crispoe> Anyone in here using Dapper? I am thinking of upgrading... I realize its in testing.. but how is it working for people here?
[08:44] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - how can I do this?
[08:44] <crispoe> wont be on my prod box
[08:44] <crispoe> obviously
[08:44] <crispoe> :)
[08:44] <tamale> hello everyone!   I would like some assistance in getting my gigabit PCI ethernet adapter working.  The model number is Linksys EG1032, and I found a page that makes mention of it being a very simple install, mentioning "Enabling CONFIG_NS83820"...  that page can be found here:  http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=0            does anyone know if "enabling" this is some kind of a module that needs to get installed, some 
[08:44] <thegladiator> metho, no its a diff way in LINUX . most programs that use GUI automatically comes in the menu
[08:44] <metho> ompaul: i just want a list of all the installed software on my system and i want delete files that i dont need anymore
[08:44] <ompaul> metho, there are several ibut that is not the way to do it - I just told you or you can spend your life wandering around /bin /usr/bin /sbin /usr/sbin and others
[08:45] <TokenBad> ok how can I use gparted to take some free space on a drive and make it a linux partition?
[08:45] <thegladiator> there no program files direcotry like in windows ..the executing files are in bin folders I thinl
[08:45] <frazmanw>  Question I have a Dell dimension 8400, it has P4 3Ghz processor in the bios it says 64bit - yes EM64T is this a 64 bit processor then?
[08:45] <eZe> "CUPS can be configured to make the printer accessible to the network." - how can I do this?
[08:45] <thegladiator> TokenBad, u can do it while installaing ubuntu
[08:45] <ompaul> metho, use a package management tool for that or you will _kill_ the box
[08:45] <metho> ompaul: ok
[08:45] <thegladiator> synaptic type of ompaul ?
[08:46] <Luigi3456346346> sorry everybody: I tried to ask in the forum but nobody answered me. The problem has never been *solved*. Could I ask you to help me ?
[08:46] <ompaul> thegladiator, that is one, dpkg is another
[08:46] <ompaul> !anyone
[08:46] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:46] <ompaul> Luigi3456346346, ^^^^^^6
[08:46] <NoWhereMan> anybody knows of this issue with pendrive that can be ruined mounting with sync option ?
[08:46] <tamale> eZe:  Look here:    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882
[08:46] <thegladiator> thats one way . but it doesnt show the programs as such but an exteded list all the packages that u have installed unlike in windows where they show the program files
[08:46] <eZe> thanks
[08:47] <Luigi3456346346> Well, here's the problem http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117728
[08:47] <thegladiator> let me please repeat my question
[08:47] <ompaul> thegladiator, personally I know very little about windows and intend to keep it like that :)
[08:47] <thegladiator> i have some hiccups when I am watching movies . sometimes totem refuses to open and it might quit into the shell and restart X . other times it works well . has ayone had this thin?
[08:47] <thegladiator> ompaul, just lucky u are , u only knew the good things in the world! :)
[08:47] <tygryss> HappyFool,   didn't worknig, black screen death
[08:48] <matthewjames> Ompaul: That did not work, is there a way to change what xserver to use?
[08:48] <tamale> where can I find this mysterious  " .config "  file so I can enable CONFIG_NS83820
[08:48] <ompaul> thegladiator, I have one word for ya "mplayer"
[08:48] <thegladiator> mplayer as well ompaul
[08:49] <duncanm_> i'm trying to watch a DVD, it's saying that i need libdvdcss
[08:49] <ernst> nobody know about a linux version of the great apple rss screensaver
[08:49] <thegladiator> just no players wud take it ! i didnt check if it is cause due to multiple running of mp3 and media players
[08:49] <frazmanw>  Question I have a Dell dimension 8400, it has P4 3Ghz processor in the bios it says 64bit - yes EM64T is this a 64 bit processor then?
[08:49] <matthewjames> Ompaul: That did not work, is there a way to change what xserver to use?
[08:49] <duncanm_> but i installed it from cipherfunk.org
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> is there a way to play a mp3 but to lower all the frequencies as low as possible? or is that what xmms does with the equaliser?
[08:49] <lsuactiafner> like devide frequency by 2
[08:49] <thegladiator> lsuactiafner, frequency etc can be adjusted using xmms I believe
[08:49] <HappyFool> tygryss: you can look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages. I have a feeling this problem is beyond my expertise, but if you find any errors I can take a guess as to whats wrong
[08:50] <ompaul> matthewjames, the lack of hotplug concerns me, did your machine ever work?
[08:50] <matthewjames> in what?
[08:50] <lsuactiafner> thegladiator : seems it only lowers the db output per frequency, doesnt actually remodulate it
[08:50] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: an equalizer will not slow down the music, if that's what you want
[08:50] <thegladiator> ah
[08:50] <ompaul> matthewjames, as a ubuntu machine?
[08:50] <tamale> where can I find this mysterious  " .config "  file so I can enable CONFIG_NS83820
[08:50] <matthewjames> i am trying to get it working, but it has worked with the live cd
[08:51] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: you could try using sox; it might do some sort of resampling
[08:51] <fevel> can anyone please help me change my resolution to 800x600? What do I add to xorg.conf? I think it has something to do with this line 	Option "MetaModes" "1024x768,1024x768;1024x768,1024x768"
[08:51] <thegladiator> fevel, easier way is gnome-display-properties
[08:51] <tygryss> HappyFool,  where is the older log
[08:51] <ompaul> matthewjames, okay have you any data on it, I am thinking reinstall, it is 20 mins and then lets start with all the clever stuff again, btw how much room have you left for Linux on the drive?
[08:51] <ssstormy> lsuactiafner, you want to lower all levels?  why not just volume?
[08:51] <ssstormy> you could try mp3gain maybe
[08:51] <thegladiator> the command is like...
[08:51] <tygryss> I change into nv , and use X fot xchat
[08:51] <matthewjames> 15gb
[08:52] <fevel> thegladiator, on the display settings it only gives me the option 1024x768
[08:52] <JoeBlow> have u guys had any luck playing dvds with vlc? its not working at all for me
[08:52] <HappyFool> tygryss: I have a /var/log/Xorg.0.log.old, which looks like my previous bootup
[08:52] <keir> anyone know if dapper has alsa 1.0.10?
[08:52] <lsuactiafner> HappyFool : want to make more of the song into bass frequency
[08:52] <matthewjames> Ompaul: 15gb for ext3, and 2 gb for swap
[08:52] <thegladiator> ah k.
[08:52] <arrinmurr> HappyFool: do you have libdvdcss installed?
[08:53] <RustyJames> fevel, just add "800x600" to the Modes Line
[08:53] <lsuactiafner> ssstormy : want to lower most frequencies into the bass frequency
[08:53] <sklav> hey guys anybody know a freevo repo that is working
[08:53] <ompaul> matthewjames, far too much swap you ever have to use that you are in deep dudu, 1gig max imho
[08:53] <HappyFool> lsuactiafner: my DSP is not that hot. Check out sox for starters
[08:53] <ernst> is it possible to run a apple screensaver on linux?
[08:53] <ssstormy> well you can do that for sure with an equalizer, but I've always had a tough time trying to figure out how to make the changes stick
[08:53] <HappyFool> arrinmurr: yip
[08:53] <Bader> hello
[08:53] <tygryss> HappyFool,  I found the error (EE) NVIDIA(0): Failed to allocate rankine object
[08:53] <tygryss> (EE) NVIDIA(0):  *** Aborting ***
[08:53] <matthewjames> Ompaul: 1 sec ompaul
[08:54] <HappyFool> arrinmurr: you've obviously tried the instructions at RestrictedFormats on the wiki ?
[08:54] <JoeBlow> if someone could help me out with getting vcd to play dvds, that would be great
[08:54] <Bader> why dpkg-reconfigure locales does nothing ?
[08:54] <lsuactiafner> thanks all
[08:54] <fevel> RustyJames, can you give me the line already edited??
[08:54] <tamale> where can I find this mysterious  " .config "  file so I can enable CONFIG_NS83820
[08:54] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, huh?
[08:54] <matthewjames> Ompaul: swap is 698MB
[08:54] <zane> hey, has anyone repartitioned a hfs hard drive using gparted?
[08:54] <fevel> RustyJames, I think im doin something wrong
[08:54] <TokenBad> thegladiator, I have ubuntu installed...
[08:54] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, you have a program titled VCD?
[08:54] <ompaul> matthewjames, how much ram?
[08:54] <matthewjames> 1 gb
[08:54] <JoeBlow> ssstorm, im trying to play a dvd using VLC. but its not working
[08:55] <thegladiator> oh you wanan partition again
[08:55] <thegladiator> ?
[08:55] <RustyJames> fevel,  Modes           "1280x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "640x480"
[08:55] <RustyJames> fevel, its in the SubSection "Display"
[08:55] <TokenBad> yeah I want to take some free space on my drive and make a linux partition so can put a 4.4 gig file on there since my fat32 will not take it
[08:55] <matthewjames> Ompaul: 1GB
[08:55] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, oh I see.  Diff between VLC and VCD :)
[08:55] <thegladiator> I am having a shared video RAM in my system . is there a tool lile memtest to chcek if the RAM has any problmes ?
[08:55] <blackrider> hello
[08:56] <RustyJames> fevel, in Section "Screen"
[08:56] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, what's your problem with it?
[08:56] <fevel> I have nvidia drivers installed
[08:56] <JoeBlow> ssstormy, Ive insereted the dvd, linux can see and browse it, i go to play disc, set it to DVD (menus) and click ok, and nothing happens
[08:56] <ompaul> matthewjames, I would give it it 1 gig for swap, I saw ya first time - please stop repeating yourself - I am thinking (at least that is what I call it)
[08:56] <HappyFool> tygryss: i only get one hit for nvidia "rankine object". I'm afraid I have no idea what that means
[08:57] <fevel> so I think I have to add it to the metamodes section on the subsection device
[08:57] <ssstormy> try going to "file" and then "open disc"
[08:57] <matthewjames> so make swap 1 gb?
[08:57] <HappyFool> tygryss: what card do you have?
[08:57] <tygryss> gforce go 7300
[08:57] <ompaul> matthewjames, what kind of computer is it
[08:57] <TokenBad> thegladiator, yeah I want to take some free space on my drive and make a linux partition so can put a 4.4 gig file on there since my fat32 will not take it
[08:57] <RustyJames> fevel, you dont need the metamode otion
[08:57] <omerix> how can i see the hard disk usage in gnome
[08:57] <matthewjames> Ompaul pc, adm64
[08:57] <JoeBlow> ssstorm and i get errors with gxine as well, is their some special package i need for dvds?
[08:57] <deefzi> http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/showthread.php?p=292953
[08:57] <arrinmurr> HappyFool: oh.. i looked that you asked the question about dvd playback, but it was JoeBlow. sorry.
[08:57] <ssstormy> TokenBad, you can use NTFS too if you need to
[08:57] <deefzi> any help is warmly accepted!
[08:57] <menko> Quick question, are the standard repositories supposed to contain stuff like the win32 codecs?
[08:57] <matthewjames> Ompaul pc, amd64*
[08:57] <fevel> RustyJames,  yesI do..to set my tv out
[08:58] <tamale> I would like some assistance in getting my gigabit PCI ethernet adapter working.  The model number is Linksys EG1032, and I found a page that makes mention of it being a very simple install, mentioning "Enabling CONFIG_NS83820"...  that page can be found here:  http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=0            does anyone know if "enabling" this is some kind of a module that needs to get installed, some kind of kernal com
[08:58] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, there's that too
[08:58] <TokenBad> ssstormy, but ubuntu can't write to ntfs
[08:58] <omerix> how can i see the hard disk usage in gnome?
[08:58] <thegladiator> can someone enlighten me about dfinding my graphcis card in this system ?
[08:58] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, open up the help browser from top toolbar, and open Ubuntu starter guide
[08:58] <JoeBlow> ssstormy, I cant dvds to work in linux, its just weird, ive never gotte them to work, it works in windows fine
[08:58] <fevel> let me try someting... ill be right back
[08:58] <ompaul> matthewjames, what kind of video card and which  CD did you use standard PC or 64bit?
[08:58] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, there's a guide for dvd usage in there
[08:58] <Razor-X> hmmm, I'm having a Java problem (surprise surprise)
[08:58] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, and it's really easy.  though I think oyu have to follow a link
[08:59] <Razor-X> anyone know why I'm getting: (.:16785): GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL **: gdk_pixbuf_new: assertion `width > 0' failed
[08:59] <Razor-X> ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0\
[08:59] <Razor-X> )
[08:59] <gaz-> JoeBlow is it a codec problem?
[08:59] <Razor-X> errr, sorry for the paste
[08:59] <ssstormy> TokenBad, yeah I know.  Just incase it ever mattered though, you can use it for large files
[08:59] <JoeBlow> ssstormy, in what category is it?
[08:59] <omerix> ?
[08:59] <JoeBlow> gaz-, im not sure
[08:59] <RustyJames> fevel, ah ok then prhaps something like "MetaModes" "1024x768,800x600;1024x768,800x600" ?
[08:59] <eZe> !samba
[08:59] <ubotu> hmm... samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[08:59] <TokenBad> but how can I get the large file to that partition if ubuntu can't write to it..see
[08:59] <tygryss> HappyFool, gforce go 7300
[08:59] <matthewjames> ompaul: ati video card              64-bit PC (AMD64) install CD
[09:00] <wakest> is there a ppc ubuntu channel?
[09:00] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, look.  Open the hellp browser from the toolbar
[09:00] <wakest> if so, where?
[09:00] <HappyFool> tygryss: yeah, i'm trying to see if the supported cards are listed anywhere
[09:00] <ssstormy> JoeBlow, open the Ubuntu starter guide
[09:00] <JoeBlow> ssstormy, im in it, i havent found anything for dvd yet, but im looking
[09:00] <ssstormy> find the multimedia apps section
[09:00] <ssstormy> in there is where you'll find dvd
[09:00] <thegladiator> how can I check my display manager etc  ? i forget the command
[09:01] <thegladiator> gnome-display-properties or something
[09:01] <ompaul> matthewjames, okay, before you take this any further, if you want to do audio or video stuff the amd64 needs a little special treatment, if you installed the PC version you will not have that issue, your call
[09:01] <thegladiator> not gnome-displa-properties...but something like that
[09:02] <matthewjames> ompaul: what type of special treatment?
[09:02] <wakest> any one know if there is a PPC Ubuntu channel?
[09:02] <LANGEROUGE> can anybody help me with my ati card?
[09:02] <HappyFool> tygryss: did you edit xorg.conf yourself, or did you use 'nvidia-glx-config enable' ?
[09:02] <omerix> how can i see the hard disk usage in gnome?
[09:02] <tygryss> HappyFool,    nvidia-glx-config enable
[09:02] <ompaul> matthewjames, chroot to get the audio to work you can check that on the wiki but ... what is bugging me is that there is no hotplug
[09:03] <Seveas> omerix, system -> administration -> disks
[09:03] <midwinter> omerix: system - administration - disks
[09:03] <LANGEROUGE> i detected xf86_EINVAL ERROR
[09:03] <matthewjames> ompaul: so delete this ubuntu, and install normal pc?
[09:03] <riddlebox> does anyone know of an ubuntu package for gtk-gnutella, that is current, I cannot get onto the network because the one in the repository is to old
[09:04] <navarone> riddlebox, I am using old gnutella client and have no probs getting on network
[09:04] <poningru> riddlebox: try donkey
[09:04] <ompaul> matthewjames, no, that is your decision, if it was my choice I would do that, but that is me, not you, your call, it is more work but your having so many problems anyway maybe it is worth a whirl to see what comes of it
[09:04] <Katie> I want to play a flash game
[09:04] <ssstormy> riddlebox, just install Limewire.  There's a little guide in help->Ubuntu starter guide
[09:04] <Seveas> !flash
[09:04] <ubotu> [restricted]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:04] <Katie> but, the keys dont work? Wth.
[09:04] <tamale> I would like some assistance in getting my gigabit PCI ethernet adapter working.  The model number is Linksys EG1032, and I found a page that makes mention of it being a very simple install, mentioning "Enabling CONFIG_NS83820"...  that page can be found here:  http://www.neowin.net/forum/index.php?showtopic=165245&st=0            does anyone know if "enabling" this is some kind of a module that needs to get installed, some kind of kernal com
[09:04] <riddlebox> navarone:how are you getting it to work?
[09:04] <matthewjames> ompaul: will doing that screw up my pc?
[09:04] <thegladiator> guys I know my graphics card if some s3 unichrome shared ....somethingllike that...where can I check this info
[09:04] <thegladiator> ?
[09:04] <navarone> riddlebox...I have done nothing...just installed it and it runs...what version are you using?
[09:04] <ssstormy> riddlebox, you also might need java 1.5 for limewire nowadays
[09:04] <Bader> Could somebody who use iso as encoding paste me his /etc/environment ? please, please, please :(
[09:05] <thegladiator> some command like gnome-system-setting or something
[09:05] <riddlebox> navarone, it is 0.95.4 stable
[09:05] <HappyFool> tygryss: i'm afraid i've run out of ideas. I can't find a list of supported cards for the drivers. You could try installing the drivers direct from nvidia instead --- a newer version may be available.
[09:05] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[09:05] <ompaul> matthewjames, neither will
[09:05] <tygryss> Happuf,
[09:05] <navarone> riddlebox have you fiddled with the config at all?
[09:05] <eZe> I don't have a " Windows Networking" section in the network settings, but according to the wiki I should have, any reasons?
[09:05] <tygryss> HappyFool,  ok, thnx
[09:05] <navarone> I am using same version riddlebox
[09:06] <matthewjames> ompaul: ok, can u give me a link to the download u said u would do plz?
[09:06] <ompaul> matthewjames, just a moment
[09:06] <matthewjames> ompaul: ok
[09:06] <Bader> dpkg-reconfigure locales isn't working on dapper, so I'm asking you again, does somebody here use iso/latin as encoding ?
[09:06] <thegladiator> _jason, are u there ?
[09:06] <navarone> riddlebox has it worked previously or just started not working?
[09:06] <turbofisk> hi
[09:07] <j2daosh> hey... got another question. how do i setup a vpn with linux to my windows box upstairs?
[09:07] <turbofisk> how do I downgrade from xfce4-panel-dev?
[09:07] <eZe> I don't have a " Windows Networking" section in the network settings, but according to the wiki I should have, any ideas?
[09:07] <ompaul> matthewjames, torrent or http?
[09:07] <thegladiator> _jason, can u temme the command to see my graphcis card details ? its a s3 unichrome share memory for video
[09:07] <matthewjames> http
[09:07] <riddlebox> I installed it and tried to use it, but it says it is to old
[09:07] <thegladiator> ompaul, do you know the command ?
[09:07] <ompaul> matthewjames,   http://mirrors.cat.pdx.edu/ubuntu-iso/5.10/ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[09:07] <JoeBlow> is their anyway to play CSS , dvds with linux
[09:07] <ompaul> thegladiator, for ?
[09:07] <JoeBlow> ?
[09:07] <ColD_7> my firefox 1.5 which is installed using automatix wont start, help needed
[09:07] <thegladiator> ompaul, the command to see my graphcis card details ? its a s3 unichrome share memory for video
[09:08] <j2daosh> o how do i mount an .iso to make the computer think its a dvd?
[09:08] <eZe> I don't have a " Windows Networking" section in the network settings, but according to the wiki I should have, any ideas?
[09:08] <egon_spengler> thegladiator: Try xdpyinfo
[09:08] <metho> is there a software to play all the radio station???
[09:08] <turbofisk> how do I downgrade from xfce4-panel-dev? weird shit started to happen with it
[09:08] <Profichilla> j2daos mount -o loop, afaik
[09:08] <matthewjames> ompaul: accept dcc real quick
[09:08] <j2daosh> eze install samba
[09:08] <j2daosh> afaik?
[09:08] <eZe> I did
[09:08] <ompaul> matthewjames, no just /msg
[09:08] <navarone> afaik=as far as I know
[09:08] <thegladiator> egon_spengler, not that one
[09:08] <matthewjames> k
[09:09] <j2daosh> oh ok
[09:09] <Profichilla> thanks navarone ;)
[09:09] <thegladiator> egon_spengler, like I should see my video ram , (graphcsi card) which is S3 unichrome
[09:09] <navarone> np
[09:09] <metho> how can i play the internet radio station
[09:09] <ColD_7> is there anyone who is currently using firefox 1.5 in ubuntu?
[09:09] <ompaul> thegladiator, hal-device-manager have a look in there
[09:09] <egon_spengler> thegladiator That value is setup in xorg.conf
[09:10] <j2daosh> ok... how do i mount an .iso that is on a different disk drive then the one im using... say... my windows partition?
[09:10] <navarone> metho rythmbox can play radio stations but I have not used it for such so cannot give details of how it works
[09:10] <ssam> !firefox1.5
[09:10] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[09:10] <ompaul> matthewjames, you are not doing /msg ompaul to talk then?
[09:10] <navarone> ColD_7, I am
[09:10] <egon_spengler> metho Also try streamtuner
[09:10] <metho> rythmbox only picks up few stations
[09:10] <thegladiator> thank you
[09:10] <navarone> metho like I said never used it for radio
[09:10] <matthewjames> i am ompaul, u recieving it?
[09:11] <ompaul> matthewjames, you are not registered on Freenode are you? you can't send messages on freenode unless you are registered
[09:11] <navarone> I use r-box to make and burn playlist so I can know what I have burnt previously for friends
[09:11] <ColD_7> ubotu, i followed the guide that you give but firefox wont start
[09:11] <ubotu> ColD_7: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:11] <ColD_7> i cant start it
[09:12] <ssam> ColD_7, ubotu is a bot
[09:12] <Profichilla> j2daosh give mount the full path of the image
[09:12] <navarone> ColD_7, try alt-f2 and type firefox and see if it opens...if it does go Help/About and see what version opens
[09:13] <ssam> ColD_7, try typing "firefox" into a terminal, see if you get an error message
[09:13] <ColD_7> i did get an error message
[09:13] <navarone> ColD_7, also do you have a firefox setting folder in home directory?
[09:13] <j2daosh> so it would be something like sudo mount -o loop /dev/hda1/fantastic4.iso /home/josh/Desktop?
[09:14] <ssam> ColD_7, what is the error message
[09:14] <ColD_7> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 16162 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[09:14] <Hoxzer> I can only play sounds with only program at the time
[09:14] <ColD_7> navarone, i have
[09:14] <Seveas> ColD_7, ah, that's not an Ubuntu firefox...
[09:14] <Hoxzer> can somebody help me to set up this so I can keep TS on and listen music at same time
[09:15] <cronologix> Use xine instead or amarok.
[09:15] <Profichilla> j2daosh mount /<where you mounted /dev/hda1>/fantastic4.iso /home/josh/Desktop
[09:15] <ColD_7> at first, i install firefox 1.5 using automatix and it wont work so i use the ubuntu guide to do the same but the result is still the same
[09:15] <j2daosh> ok
[09:15] <eZe> where can I change the sambe password?
[09:15] <Profichilla> + the -o loop
[09:16] <Seveas> ColD_7, automatix and ubuntuguide.org are both crap
[09:16] <Seveas> now you see why
[09:16] <ssstormy> has anyone around here done networking over crossover cable?
[09:16] <Profichilla> uboto, tell ColD_7 about automatix
[09:16] <navarone> cold try creating a launcher for Firefox on desktop put "firefox %u" in command field and see it it will open properly
[09:16] <midwinter> eZe, smdpasswd username -a
[09:16] <eZe> thx
[09:17] <ssam> ssstormy, yes
[09:17] <ke> where does fetchmail store retrieved mail by default?
[09:17] <ssstormy> navarone, dunno- firefox 1.5 always installed as a different bin name as 1.0.7
[09:17] <katie^> well thats just plain rude.
[09:17] <Kyral> ke: No where
[09:17] <ssstormy> ssam, I'm having some issues connecting on linux to my local ftp server
[09:17] <Kyral> ke: You need something like exim or postfix
[09:17] <ke> Kyral, or... pine?
[09:17] <katie^> Anyway.
[09:17] <Kyral> ke: You need a MTA
[09:17] <eZe> midwinter,  smdpasswd command not found
[09:18] <navarone> sstormy...I dunno...I am using ff1.5 thru launcher I made and placed in panel...and "firefox %u" is command in launcher...<shrug>
[09:18] <ke> Kyral, ah sorry
[09:18] <Seveas> eZe, smbpasswd, not smdpasswd
[09:18] <midwinter> eZe, rather sudo smbpasswd username -a
[09:18] <midwinter> eZe, sorry mistype
[09:18] <ssstormy> ssam, I set the ftp server to 192.169.2.1 and PC to 192.169.2.2, with the gateways the opposite
[09:18] <ssam> ssstormy, can you ping between them
[09:18] <eZe> ok :)
[09:18] <ColD_7> no result
[09:18] <ssstormy> no
[09:18] <ompaul> Katie^, not in offtopic
[09:18] <ssstormy> and I can't set it up right now- every time I enable a LAN connection
[09:18] <ssstormy> it takes priority over my wireless
[09:19] <ssstormy> so I loose my internet connection
[09:19] <luisito> hi guys!
[09:19] <ompaul> Katie^, your not in offtopic - the other could be misrepresented
[09:19] <ColD_7> so is there any other guide to reinstall the firefox 1.5 or just restore my old firefox 1.0.7, at least it works
[09:19] <Katie^> oh
[09:19] <ColD_7> ?
[09:19] <Katie^> mkies
[09:19] <ssam> ssstormy, try doing it without setting a gateway (that might keep the wireless workiing)
[09:19] <tamale> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117788
[09:20] <ssstormy> ColD_7, just reinstall the firefox 1.0.7 package
[09:20] <Stormx2> ColD_7: the FirefoxNewVersion has some stuff on restoring the original firefox
[09:20] <luisito> anyone knows about GTK themes programming?
[09:20] <AndyRR> ColD_7, 1.0.7 works unless you want to print :)
[09:20] <matthewjames> Ompaul: hey, swap space is a logical partition right?
[09:21] <AndyRR> i have used automatix script to install ff1.5
[09:21] <ColD_7> firefox 1.0.7 is just fine
[09:21] <ompaul> matthewjames, it does not have to be, how many partitions are on that disk
[09:21] <Seveas> !automatix
[09:21] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:21] <Stormx2> Agreed
[09:21] <Stormx2> =)
[09:21] <ColD_7> but d ff1.5 installed using automiz just wont start
[09:21] <matthewjames> Ompaul: 4
[09:21] <ColD_7> automatix
[09:22] <squid0> hi
[09:22] <Seveas> ColD_7 then remove it again
[09:22] <squid0> it seems i dont have /dev/dvd on my system
[09:22] <ompaul> matthewjames, then it is logicl
[09:22] <navarone> ColD_7, sry dude I didn't use automatix so dunno what kinda changes it made to your system
[09:22] <matthewjames> Ompaul: 1 for windows restore, 1 for windows, 1 for linux (ext3) 1 for swap
[09:22] <matthewjames> k
[09:22] <st3-f> hi all, how can i take screenshots in the console? is there s.th. like that!?
[09:22] <squid0> should i make a symlink to /dev/hdc as /dev/dvd??
[09:22] <ompaul> matthewjames, sorry you can have 4 primary partitions
[09:23] <matthewjames> k, so it would be a primary to then?
[09:23] <ssam> squid0, do you need a /dev/dvd
[09:23] <odat> Seveas, you here?
[09:23] <Stormx2> st3-f: Hmm. Screenshots is a gnome/kde style thing I think. let me see.
[09:23] <Seveas> odat, yes
[09:23] <wdh> hi ppls.. is there any way to watch the actions of people logged in via sftp?
[09:23] <tamale> can someone please look at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117788 and guide me through the help process?
[09:23] <metho> what software do i need to play DVDS
[09:23] <Seveas> !dvd
[09:23] <Seveas> !+dvd
[09:23] <ubotu> Normal DVDs should play in ubuntu without any problems, but if your dvd does not play try installing libdvdread and libdvdcss by following these instructions: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b, or see !libdvdcss
[09:23] <Seveas> ugh
[09:24] <Seveas> !dvd =~ s/#head-cd84b8e23927ccdb4bb55ffd3074687abec0cf3b//
[09:24] <ubotu> Seveas: OK
[09:24] <Stormx2> Seveas: What did that do?
[09:24] <Seveas> argh, and even then it's wrong
[09:24] <Seveas> !forget dvd
[09:24] <ubotu> Seveas: i forgot dvd
[09:24] <Seveas> !dvd is <reply> Dvd plyaing is possible in Ubuntu with totem, vlc mplayer and other players. You may need !libdvdcss.
[09:24] <ubotu> okay, Seveas
[09:25] <odat> Seveas, after adding you repo and updating the gstreamer apps now i can't burn  thanks i knew i should have stayed away from that repo
[09:25] <sorush20> !eMovix
[09:25] <ubotu> sorush20: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:25] <squid0> ssam: um, yes, that's my question. do i need it, and if so how should i do it?
[09:25] <sorush20> where is the emovix package?
[09:25] <Seveas> odat, there's a big warning 'use at own risk'
[09:25] <Seveas> no need to come ranting in here
[09:25] <Seveas> odat, and I have no gstreamer things in my repository...
[09:25] <ch1p> hey
[09:25] <ch1p> anyone here
[09:25] <odat> Seveas, thats a great reponse considering its almost impossible to remove you crap without removing the entire system
[09:25] <ssam> squid0, i dont think you do need it, unless you have a program that is hard wired to use /dev/dvd in stead of /dev/hdc
[09:26] <ch1p> hey ssam
[09:26] <Dreamglider> how can i get a menu in apps->internet called azureus ?
[09:26] <Nihil85> hi everyone! I cannot change the time... The system requires the pswd but then nothing happens. How can i change the date and hour?
[09:26] <ch1p> im new to unbuntu
[09:26] <Seveas> odat, please take your stupid insinuations somewhere else
[09:26] <ch1p> and was wondering
[09:26] <ssam> squid0, it might get created if you put a dvd in
[09:26] <Katie^> i installed wine, how do i get it on my menu?
[09:26] <ssam> ch1p, hi
[09:26] <odat> Seveas, stupid your the one that fu---- up my system
[09:26] <Seveas> odat, all packages I provide (none of which are gstreamer things) are cleanly uninstallable
[09:26] <blue-frog> odat none forced you with a gun on your head...
[09:26] <Seveas> now please read the code of conduct before continuing to make a fool of yourself
[09:27] <squid0> ssam, ok thanks
[09:27] <squid0> i'll try using /dev/hdc/
[09:27] <odat> blue-frog, don't you find it funny that his first response was  warning use at your own risk  instead of trying to help
[09:27] <blue-frog> odat no
[09:27] <ch1p> hey ssma im pmed
[09:27] <ch1p> plz repy
[09:27] <ch1p> reply
[09:28] <ch1p> ssam
[09:28] <Seveas> odat, when someone comes in accusing me, then I'm not too inclined to help...
[09:28] <jenda> odat: drop it, and it seems to be quite uasy to fix: reinstall gstreamer
[09:28] <ssam> ch1p, whats the problem?
[09:28] <odat> blue-frog, well then i hope you have a problem soon and thats the response you get
[09:28] <ch1p> well im new to unbuntu
[09:28] <wakest> does anyone know if the powerbooks airport card is supported, with out much fiddling, in the latest install cd?
[09:28] <Seveas> odat, for the second and last time: please read the code of conduct before continuing to make a fool of yourself
[09:28] <ch1p> and was wondering is it easy to install on my hd
[09:29] <ch1p> also can it handle WINE
[09:29] <blue-frog> odat i know my limts and when I read warnings, I consider twice before changing anything and if i do so I take countermeasures such as making an image of my system first..
[09:29] <Seveas> ch1p, yes, veryy easy to install, and wine is also easily installable
[09:29] <ch1p> so lets say i download unbuntu
[09:29] <ssam> ch1p, its very easy to install, you can run wine though i have never used it
[09:29] <ch1p> how do i get wine on there
[09:29] <Seveas> !wine
[09:30] <Seveas> !+wine
[09:30] <ubotu> I guess wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[09:30] <ch1p> so i just type !wine
[09:30] <ch1p> no seriously how do i get it on ther
[09:30] <Seveas> ch1p, ubotu just said it :0
[09:30] <tamale> Seveas:  I see you looking at my thread in the forum, do you have any idea what I can do?
[09:30] <ch1p> oh ok
[09:30] <ch1p> i just type that in console
[09:31] <ch1p> i meanteminal
[09:31] <ssam> ch1p, and someone can talk you through doing that when you are ready
[09:31] <ch1p> nvm
[09:31] <ch1p> i foind
[09:31] <ch1p> it
[09:31] <ch1p> thx guys
[09:31] <ch1p> real help
[09:31] <Seveas> tamale, no, but if you find out then please let me know, I've tried to help someone with the same card a few days ago and we didn't solv eit
[09:31] <ch1p> thx guys!
[09:32] <tamale> Seveas:  Ugh.. that doesn't sound promising
[09:32] <tamale> I just don't understand why cards like this never pose any problems in XP at ALL
[09:32] <tamale> but stupid windows software raid support sucks ass, so I can't use it ata ll
[09:32] <Seveas> tamale, to sound a bit more promising: PCLinuxOS, a mandrake based distributuin did get to talk to the card, so it should be possible
[09:33] <eth42> I have a problem with cups: although invoke-rc.d cupsys reports that cups has been started, it is not running.
[09:33] <eth42> I tried to reinstall cups and removed /etc/cups first to get a clean install. However, the configuration files are not completely created since my "/etc/cups/cupsd.conf appears to have been manually edited. cupsys.postinst won't touch it."
[09:33] <Seveas> ugh, and my typing sucks today...
[09:33] <Wulfman> hey katie^ do you know dierwolf on sexnet?
[09:33] <tamale> seveas: did you check out the first link in my post?  Someone mentioned recompiling a module
[09:33] <Katie^> sexnet
[09:33] <Katie^> erm no.
[09:33] <Wulfman> heh
[09:33] <Wulfman> kay
[09:33] <Wulfman> bye
[09:33] <Katie^> should i?
[09:33] <Katie^> lol
[09:33] <cello_rasp> hi i am trying to create a working gstreamer profile for use with sound juicer,  what little documentation there is online says that mp3 are encoded vbr by default, yet playback in xmms suggests they are cbr. i tried the parameter VBR with values: true|false|0|1|2|3 ; sound juicer dies every time. help!!!
[09:34] <nbound> any way of changing my bit depth from within gnome?
[09:34] <Seveas> nbound, gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf ;)
[09:34] <menko> hi, I'm trying to add a device, /dev/sda1 (a usb cf card reader) to fstab so that I can mount/unmount using rox. I noticed when I plug it in, gnome just detects and mounts it, but it doesn't make an fstab entry for future use( I think I'm too used to mandriva... ugh...) Help, please.
[09:34] <Seveas> menko, just use pmount to mount it
[09:35] <nbound> Seveas, i mean like right now, not next reboot
[09:35] <Seveas> no need for fstab entries with pmount
[09:35] <Seveas> nbound, in that case: not that I know of
[09:35] <tamale> seveas:  Does that make any sense?  Recompiling a module and then using that somehow?
[09:35] <cello_rasp> :(
[09:35] <Seveas> tamale, it does
[09:35] <menko> but I'm so used to just opening rox with all my external devices then clicking them...
[09:35] <eth42> can anyone tell me how to get a fully configurated cups server?
[09:35] <AndyRR> Seveas, whats so crap about automatix?
[09:36] <menko> Saveas, because usually double clicking the icons mounts the unmounts them
[09:36] <Seveas> !tell AndyRR about automatix
[09:36] <hydroksyde_work> what packages must I install to compile kernel modules???
[09:37] <Seveas> hydroksyde_work, build-essential, gcc-3.4, linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[09:37] <hydroksyde_work> ok
[09:38] <luisito> Seveas, how do I know what version of GTK I have installed?
[09:38] <riddlebox> navarone, I just went to the gtk-gnutella site and downloaded the neweset deb, installed it, it works fine
[09:38] <lukus001> the program koffice kivio wont load,somthni about a DCOPserver?
[09:38] <nbound> is there a way of uninstalling a program installed with wine (including registry modifications) if it has no uninstaller?
[09:38] <Seveas> luisito, dpkg -l 'libgtk*'
[09:39] <nbound> anyone?
[09:39] <luisito> Seveas, ok :)
[09:39] <eZe> what is the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/printcap ?
[09:39] <nbound> would deleting it and doin a winecfg do it/
[09:39] <menko> Saveas, I can't mount with pmount either...
[09:39] <menko> sudo pmount /dev/sda
[09:39] <menko> Password:
[09:39] <menko> mount: No medium found
[09:39] <menko> mount: No medium found
[09:39] <Seveas> menko, DO NOT PASTE
[09:40] <Seveas> menko, no sudo needed, and you should use /dev/sda1 probbaly
[09:40] <eZe> what is the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/printcap ?
[09:40] <navarone> riddlebox do you have to uninstall previous version first?
[09:40] <lukus001> does anyone know how to sort the program kivio out which said somthing about making sure the DCOPserver was running? i opened turminal and type DCOPserver - now kivio doesnt popup an error, but it still wont load
[09:40] <menko> without sudo gives same error, sda1 says couldn't determine path or something
[09:41] <eth42> any help? cups won't start. no error messages. invoke-rc.d cupsys says "* Starting Common Unix Printing System: cupsd   [ ok ] ". But nothing is started
[09:41] <Seveas> menko, is the thing plugged in?
[09:41] <navarone> hi dabaR
[09:41] <eZe> what is the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/printcap ?
[09:41] <Katie^> Any ideas why my keys wont work on a flash game?
[09:41] <Katie^> coz it's getting on my tits
[09:42] <navarone> Katie if you are balancing the keyboard there it mat be the prob...;)
[09:42] <menko> Seveas: it is, I had just unmounted it with nautlius
[09:42] <Katie^> it's not funny :(
[09:42] <Katie^> pwease?
[09:42] <riddlebox> navarone, I uninstalled it first to make sure
[09:42] <nbound> is there anyway i can get wine to unistall using an installshield unistall script (.isu)???
[09:42] <bthornton> I have just created an image file of an entire hard drive (including about 4 partitions) using a command similar to "dd if=/dev/hda of=/image".  Is it now possible to mount individual partitions from within this image file using a loopback mechanism?
[09:42] <riddlebox> navarone, it works fine though
[09:43] <menko> *with rox
[09:43] <Seveas> Katie^, click on the flashgame, maybe it's not active
[09:43] <eZe> what is the ubuntu equivalent to /etc/printcap ?
[09:43] <_jason> Katie^, click on the flashgame and try again
[09:43] <Katie^> yeah i do :(
[09:43] <lasindi[lappy] > I have a USB-to-serial converter connected to my computer; the device does not appear to be connected to /dev/ttyS0, ttyS1, ttyS2 or ttyS3. Which device might it be connected to?
[09:43] <Seveas> eZe: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[09:43] <navarone> riddlebox I have had updated version for some time but have not installed it as the curent one is not giving me any probs...but nice to know...I guess you should remove any complete files from directory first before uninstalling though...?
[09:44] <nbound> is there anyway i can get wine to unistall using an installshield unistall script (.isu)???
[09:44] <Seveas> lasindi[lappy] , /dev/ttyUSB0 perhaps?
[09:44] <dabaR> navarone: hi, thanks.
[09:44] <slew> whats a good program for ripping mp3 to wav?
[09:44] <menko> Wait I got it to mount with pmount by removing it putting it back in, then unmounting again
[09:44] <lasindi[lappy] > Seveas: I have no /dev/ttyUSB* devices...
[09:44] <menko> but I'm still looking for a way to add to fstab
[09:44] <Seveas> slew, transcode
[09:45] <Seveas> menko, sudo some_editor /etc/fstab, and add all you want :)
[09:45] <navarone> riddlebox...you can try phex as well if interested...is a java client for gnutella...I use it in windows and ubuntu if I want to really filter results. Filtering in gtk-gnutella still eludes me...lol
[09:45] <menko> I don't know how... I'm too used to having all my fstab entries made by mandriva control centre...
[09:45] <sorush20> there are no ffmpeg lib or headers? any help ?
[09:45] <sorush20> why is lsusb not responding?
[09:46] <menko> so I was hoping maybe there was some utility which auto generates fstab entries.
[09:46] <navarone> !diskmounter
[09:46] <ubotu> I guess diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[09:46] <navarone> menko ^
[09:46] <tamale> why does ubotu sound so unsure of himself? :] 
[09:47] <Seveas> navarone, that coes not work on usb devices
[09:47] <navarone> ahh
[09:47] <Seveas> navarone, or actually, it may work....
[09:47] <menko> navarone: does that make fstab entries for a cf card reader?
[09:47] <navarone> he said fstab though...
[09:48] <Seveas> menko, if the device is listed in fdisk -l, and it is a fat or ntfs partition: yes
[09:48] <navarone> menko...no...I just saw fstab entries
[09:48] <riddlebox> navarone, I know gtk-gnutella isnt the best answer, but I like it, and am used to it :)
[09:48] <navarone> riddlebox...I have gotten used to gtk...just the filtering I can not figure out...but no matter
[09:48] <eZe> how can I change the cups password?
[09:48] <menko> cool, thanks navarone and Seveas, I'll try that out
[09:49] <menko> will it mount properly if formatted in fat16?
[09:49] <Seveas> menko, you just need to change 'auto' to 'noauto' in the generated line and make sure 'user' is listed in the options field
[09:49] <Stc> hello
[09:49] <yatesy> fat16?! thats well old
[09:49] <menko> it's for a cf card
[09:49] <menko> on a mobile device
[09:49] <Stc> during installation: http://forum.ubuntu-it.org/index.php?topic=15973.0 :\
[09:49] <Stc> killed, killed, killed... why ?
[09:50] <Seveas> menko, put the output of 'sudo fdisk -l' on the pastebin and I'll make you a nice fstab line :)
[09:50] <_jason> Seveas need to write an fstab-o-matic
[09:50] <navarone> Stc I don't speak or read Italian
[09:50] <Seveas> _jason, neh...
[09:51] <Seveas> _jason, too many things can go wrong with that
[09:51] <menko> Seveas: thanks, I pasted it
[09:51] <Seveas> menko, url please
[09:51] <Stc> yes,navarone, during install breezy i have this: killed killed
[09:51] <menko> http://pastebin.com/507236
[09:51] <navarone> Stc> Italian?
[09:52] <Seveas> menko, is the device plugged in?
[09:52] <Stc> yes
[09:52] <navarone> try #ubuntu-it
[09:52] <menko> Seveas: yes
[09:52] <menko> it changed to sda1 when I unplugged it
[09:52] <Seveas> menko, odd, /dev/sda is a 1gb disk with a linux filesystem according to /etc/fstab
[09:52] <soarcerer> can someone help me with hosting
[09:53] <menko> that's weird
[09:53] <Seveas> soarcerer, we do not provide hosting space... If you need help setting up apache/php/mysql: /msg ubotu lamp
[09:53] <Dreamglider> how can i get a menu in apps->internet that will start azureus, at the moment i have to start azureus with sudo ./azureus !
[09:53] <Stc> navarone, http://translate.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fforum.ubuntu-it.org%2Findex.php%3Ftopic%3D15973.0&langpair=it%7Cen&hs=QIE&hl=it&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Ait%3Aofficial&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&prev=%2Flanguage_tools
[09:54] <Stc> ;D
[09:54] <_jason> Dreamglider, why sudo?
[09:54] <dabaR> Dreamglider: use the menu editor.
[09:54] <Dreamglider> _jason, i dont know
[09:54] <_jason> Dreamglider, that's probably not too safe
[09:54] <dabaR> Dreamglider: can you do it without sudo?
[09:54] <Seveas> Dreamglider, sudo azureus sounds like a very, very bad idea
[09:55] <layz> sup fellow pimps
[09:55] <Dreamglider> damn, i have to reboot
[09:55] <layz> kan anybody help me?
[09:55] <_jason> !ask
[09:55] <Seveas> !helpme
[09:55] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[09:55] <Dreamglider> i'll be right back
[09:56] <Katie^> I downloaded/installed firefox.exe using wine
[09:56] <menko> Seveas: in the disk manager, it shows up as vfat
[09:56] <_jason> Katie^, why?
[09:56] <Katie^> how do i open it without having to reinstall? or do i need to?
[09:56] <Katie^> so i can play shockwave games
[09:56] <Seveas> menko, weird :)
[09:56] <layz> i was told root isnt activated as standard.. how do i activate it?
[09:56] <Seveas> menko, try the next line:
[09:56] <_jason> ubotu, tell layz about root
[09:57] <Dreamglider> Hey dude
[09:57] <Seveas> /dev/sda1 /media/subdisk vfat rw,user,noauto,fmask=0133,dmask=0022,uid=1000,gid=1000 0 0
[09:57] <Katie^> anyone know?
[09:57] <Seveas> that /media/usbdisk thing can be replaced by a path of your own choice of course :)
[09:57] <Dreamglider> i'll try to start azureus without sudo
[09:58] <dabaR> Katie^: look, I mean, you are asking can you run .exe files on Ubuntu... You should install flash for Ubuntu.
[09:58] <Gunfus> hey guys
[09:58] <navarone> Stc the translation still loses a lot...perhaps you can try joining #ubuntu-it and see if they can help
[09:58] <Gunfus> does anyone know where to download mplayer from..? i can't find it synamptic
[09:58] <cello_rasp> hi i am trying to create a working gstreamer profile for use with sound juicer,  what little documentation there is online says that mp3 are encoded vbr by default, yet playback in xmms suggests they are cbr. i tried the parameter VBR with values: true|false|0|1|2|3 ; sound juicer dies every time. help!!!
[09:58] <Seveas> !mplayer
[09:58] <ubotu> hmm... mplayer is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[09:59] <Dreamglider> ok azureus runs without sudo
[09:59] <Gunfus> ubotu, thanks
[09:59] <ubotu> de nada, Gunfus
[09:59] <Stc> navarone, they (ubuntu-it) can't help :\, tnx
[09:59] <Seveas> cello_rasp, did you install an mp3 plugin for gstreamer?
[09:59] <Silent_al> hi, whats root's default password?
[09:59] <Gunfus> ubotu, esta bien.. then gracias..!
[09:59] <ubotu> No idea, Gunfus
[09:59] <dabaR> Dreamglider: there is an application menu editor to which you could add azureus.
[09:59] <Seveas> !tell Silent_al about root
[09:59] <steve_richard> Anyone knows where I possible could find the CVS for WineX 3.3.2 ?
[09:59] <kondi_> what is the source.list for mplayer?
[09:59] <Gunfus> ubotu, no idea..?! of what.>!?
[09:59] <ubotu> Gunfus: I haven't a clue
[09:59] <_jason> ubotu, tell kondi_ about mplayer
[09:59] <Seveas> !tell kondi_ about mplayer
[10:00] <Seveas> Gunfus, ubotu is a bot
[10:00] <Gunfus> Seveas, ohh okay.. THANKS!!
[10:00] <kondi_> apt-get install mplayer doesn t work
[10:00] <dabaR> !botsnack
[10:00] <ubotu> thanks dabar :)
[10:00] <Gunfus> hehe
[10:00] <_jason> kondi_, read what ubotu sent you
[10:00] <kondi_> nothing
[10:00] <menko> Seveas: SWEET, works a CHARM in rox. Thanks!
[10:00] <lukus001> Can somone help me with a non-loading program?
[10:01] <j2daosh> ok... need lots of help here... nothing serious but its just gonna be a pain in the butt... i need to setup a network. not a simple one either. i will need to transfer files back and forth from a windows box to my box and vise versa on a daily basis...
[10:01] <Dreamglider> where are icons located ?
[10:01] <Silent_al> Seveas, so what if i wana change my printer's settings @ localhost:631, and it asks me for a username and a password ?
[10:01] <kondi_> : Couldn't find package mplayer
[10:01] <Seveas> Silent_al, read that wikipage ubotu sent you...
[10:01] <j2daosh> whats the easiest way? vpn... or just dl cygwin for the winbox and then just ssh back and forth and use the put command?
[10:01] <_jason> Dreamglider, usually in /usr/share/pixmaps
[10:01] <dabaR> j2daosh: it is called samba.
[10:01] <Silent_al> and its not my username\pw
[10:01] <Seveas> kondi_, read that wikipage ubotu sent you...
[10:01] <Silent_al> Seveas, ok
[10:01] <Silent_al> gotcha
[10:01] <Silent_al> thanx
[10:02] <j2daosh> really dabaR ? i didn't know that... too bad i dont wanna have to share every folder out on the win box....
[10:02] <j2daosh> then i might do it that way
[10:02] <kondi_> can somebody say me the server for mplayer
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> umm my ubuntu install has hung :(
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> it restarted and loaded without the cd in, and was setting up packages
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> last I looked at it, it was registrering documentation at 95%
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> now its just a black screen
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> doing nothing
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> :(
[10:02] <_jason> !enter
[10:02] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[10:02] <dabaR> !enter
[10:03] <dabaR> heh
[10:03] <navarone> Dreamglider they are in subfolders of pixmaps directory as well.../Large and /other
[10:03] <kondi_> can somebody say me the mirror (sources.list) for mplayer
[10:03] <Cyorxamp> sorry!
[10:03] <dabaR> kondi_: it is in multiverse
[10:03] <Cyorxamp> but still - it's very dissapointing, anyone got an idea?
[10:03] <lukus001> I have an app which keeps saying "there was an error setting up the inter-process communications of KDE..... message retuned from system: could not open networksocket.. please check dcopserver is running"       Someone please help me sort it out :/
[10:04] <jessi> ola
[10:05] <kondi_> dabar : multiverse ?
[10:05] <Stormx2> Cyorxamp: Sure you downloaded, verified and burnt correctly?
[10:06] <Cyorxamp> it's one of ubuntu's cd's
[10:06] <Cyorxamp> got them though ShipIt
[10:06] <jessi> hellow
[10:06] <dabaR>  kondi_ ya, multiverse.
[10:06] <kondi_> i don 't have the ubuntu cd i search for the ubuntu mirror
[10:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kondi_ about components
[10:06] <navarone> jessi what is your question?
[10:06] <dabaR> ubotu: tell kondi_ about repos
[10:07] <davix> I need a google analytics invite, anyone?
[10:07] <Seveas> davix, not in here
[10:07] <shephard> hola
[10:07] <jessi> now write in englis
[10:07] <dabaR> kondi_: ubotu told you all you need to know about that. You can also use http://dabar.selfip.org/synaptic.html
[10:07] <shephard> alguien espaol?
[10:07] <navarone> davix no idea what you ar talking about...:/
[10:07] <jessi> yooooooooo
[10:07] <Seveas> !es
[10:07] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:08] <Cyorxamp> anyone know what could be wrong?
[10:08] <damien_> hello i'm a newbee and i have some trouble to use the config file... someone to help me please ?
[10:08] <frazmanw> I forgot in Ubuntu Breezy how to make glxgears report framerate
[10:09] <Seveas> frazmanw, glxgears -printfps
[10:09] <hydroksyde_work> What is the ubuntu equivilant of /etc/rc.d/rc.local or autoexec.bat?
[10:09] <frazmanw> Seveas, tks
[10:10] <hydroksyde_work> (i've only used sysvinit and dos systems)
[10:10] <hydroksyde_work> not sysv
[10:10] <hydroksyde_work> bsd init
[10:10] <Seveas> hydroksyde_work, making your own script in /etc/init.d/ and link it from /etc/rcS.d
[10:10] <navarone> damien more details please
[10:10] <hydroksyde_work> ok
[10:10] <jessi> hay alguien que hable en espaol
[10:10] <hydroksyde_work> Seveas, thanks
[10:10] <Seveas> !es
[10:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:11] <lightbright> Seveas: hello
[10:11] <Seveas> hi lightbright
[10:11] <lightbright> Seveas: how can I format or totally and securly wipe my whole hdb1 please?
[10:11] <dabaR> securely wipe...
[10:12] <Seveas> lightbright, man dd
[10:12] <lightbright> Seveas: :(
[10:12] <lightbright> Seveas: I tried: sudo dd if=/dev/null of=/dev/hdb1
[10:12] <lightbright> Seveas: but it doesnt work
[10:12] <lightbright> Seveas: I read man dd and still confused
[10:12] <Seveas> lightbright, 7 times in a row: dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024 count=size_in_kb_of_your_disk
[10:13] <jessi> no hay nadie espaol????
[10:13] <lightbright> Seveas: so I type: "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024" ?
[10:13] <navarone> jessi join #ubuntu-es
[10:13] <P3L|C4N0> jessi ingrese a canal #ubuntu-es
[10:14] <jessi> ubuntu-es??
[10:14] <jessi> ok
[10:14] <navarone> jessi type /join #ubuntu-es
[10:15] <menko> if anyone is wondering I found an auto fstab generator
[10:15] <lightbright> menko: for Ubuntu?
[10:15] <menko> It's called pysdm, and it works very well
[10:15] <menko> yup, I tried regenerating the entry for the usb reader
[10:15] <menko> works well
[10:16] <lightbright> Seveas: any way I can get "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024"  to show me what is going on?  there doesnt mention a -verbose command in man dd
[10:17] <sethk> lightbright, unfortunately, no, dd doesn't have an option for that
[10:17] <MacSlow> re
[10:17] <Gunfus> hmm does anyon remenber the special flag to pass to configure to use a different GCC other than 4.. as mplayer doesn't compile with gcc 4
[10:18] <lightbright> sethk: so I type: "dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024" ?  is that what Seveas told me?
[10:18] <frazmanw> I am setting up another box, and just needed a reminder on how to get my X300 ATI card to have accelleration. maybe ubotu will answer me even. :p
[10:18] <cafuego> Gunfus: use 3.4 then
[10:18] <j2daosh> menko... winmac?
[10:18] <MacSlow> ssam, gnomefreak: Did the update from 5.10 to dapper flight2... running now. Sofar nothing broke :)
[10:18] <sethk> lightbright, that seems reasonable, but since I don't know what you are trying to do ... (I just got here)
[10:18] <menko> j2daosh: ehh?
[10:18] <lightbright> sethk: :) ah ok
[10:18] <cafuego> Gunfus: Or better yet, use the precompiled mplayer package ;-)
[10:18] <ssam> MacSlow, cool
[10:18] <k0nd0r> hello
[10:18] <lightbright> sethk: I asked; Seveas: how can I format or totally and securly wipe my whole hdb1 please?
[10:18] <Gunfus> cafuego.. I can't find the precompiled
[10:18] <k0nd0r> hi from spain :)
[10:18] <j2daosh> nothing nevermind... thought you were talking about the winmac proggie... but that is only for windows drive mounting
[10:19] <cafuego> !info mplayer-386
[10:19] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[10:19] <sethk> lightbright, I would not write random data for that.  I would simply write zeroes.  It's much easier to verify that it worked
[10:19] <cafuego> Gunfus: Enable multiverse, install that one.
[10:19] <Gunfus> cafuego, nothing in mplayer-386
[10:19] <sethk> lightbright, so use  if=/dev/zero
[10:19] <Gunfus> cafuego, multiverse..?
[10:19] <k0nd0r> you prefer mplayer than vlc???
[10:20] <cafuego> !repos
[10:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:20] <menko> lightbright: from the command line, type sudo pysdm
[10:20] <frazmanw> ok I remember I can install xorg-driver-fglrx but that is a dated driver is there a better way to get accelleration on my ATI X300?
[10:20] <Katie^> I prefer vlc personally
[10:21] <Katie^> anyway, for wiine, i installed firefox, i think, how do i run it without having to reinstall it again
[10:21] <cafuego> frazmanw: 9.81m/s^2?
[10:21] <k0nd0r> one question, firefox or opera or konqueror?
[10:21] <lightbright> sethk: So I type: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1 bs=1024" ?
[10:21] <Katie^> firefox
[10:21] <frazmanw> cafuego, I don't understand?
[10:21] <dabaR> no, mv lightbright /dev/null
[10:21] <TokenBad> ok how can I use gparted to take some free space on a drive and make it a linux partition?
[10:21] <ssam> MacSlow, there is a planned xorg merge in the next few days that will probably break some things, so be careful of upgrading
[10:21] <Katie^> opera, i didn't like and konqueror was boring
[10:21] <zelevw> Hi guys ...is there a program that can spy on employee's time spent on skype, IM, Word, etc...? thanks
[10:21] <lasindi[lappy] > If I don't have /dev/ttyUSB0, which device file do I need to use in order to access USB ports?
[10:21] <lightbright> menko: its all ghoested my pysdm
[10:22] <sethk> lightbright, that will work.  Leave out the bs=1024.  The optimal block size is the default.  Overriding it with bs either does nothing (if you happen to hit the optimum) or makes things slower
[10:22] <lightbright> dabaR: mv ?
[10:22] <dabaR> zelevw: do you think we will tell you?
[10:22] <MrRio> zelevw: hmm...
[10:22] <MacSlow> ssam, what will be merged?
[10:22] <dabaR> lightbright: just joing, that would erase you.
[10:22] <dabaR> joking
[10:22] <lightbright> sethk: So I type: "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1" ? and sit back and wait? :)
[10:22] <MacSlow> ssam, I mean what part of xorg CVS will be merged into the dapper repository?
[10:22] <sethk> lightbright, right
[10:22] <lightbright> sethk: ok thanks
[10:22] <lightbright> dabaR:  :P
[10:22] <ssam> MacSlow, lots of patches
[10:22] <tdn> My sound suddently doesn't work in Ubuntu. What can I do to fix it?
[10:23] <ssam> MacSlow, it is already at 7.0, but somehow there is more
[10:23] <sethk> lightbright, it wouldn't be all that difficult to make a script that prints something out once in a while, but it probably isn't worth the effort (that is, simulating a --verbose flag)
[10:23] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, install windows? =P
[10:23] <MacSlow> hey.... blender 2.40 in dapper... nice!
[10:23] <lightbright> sethk: the problem is I cant tell how long its going to take or what its doing :P
[10:23] <adriyel> can anybody here help me with my surround sound?
[10:23] <thegladiator> i am having the previoisly reported problem now.
[10:23] <sethk> lightbright, I know, I've said the same thing a number of times.  dd is actually quite fast, but with the size of today's drives, quite fast can still mean many minutes of waiting
[10:23] <lightbright> sethk: how long would it take to finish on a 10gig hard drive you think?
[10:23] <adriyel> I have NVIDIA AC 97 mobo audio chip, 5.1 surround, can anyone help me?
[10:23] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, any serious suggestions?
[10:24] <sethk> lightbright, a 10 gig?  I'd guess 15 minutes,
[10:24] <lightbright> sethk: why cant the developers add a verbose to dd?
[10:24] <thegladiator> I am trying to open a movie from nautilus by double click and the movie window opens and closes almost immediately , just showing the player for a sec and vanishing ! when I go to the terminal and type mplayer ronin.avi i works!
[10:24] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, run "dmesg | grep sound"
[10:24] <Deltaeskimo> hi  all out there
[10:24] <thegladiator> how can I understand whats causing this error ?
[10:24] <sethk> lightbright, they can, I guess nobody has felt motivated.  You could actually download the source to it, and add it yourself, probably in about 15 minutes.
[10:24] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, I did. It returns nothing.
[10:24] <Katie^> when wine installs something, where does it go?
[10:24] <lightbright> menko: its all ghosted my pysdm, you too?
[10:25] <lightbright> sethk: yeah right :P lol
[10:25] <_jason> thegladiator, have you rebooted?
[10:25] <lightbright> sethk: im not a programmer
[10:25] <Deltaeskimo> I smashed my grub,cause i had 2 install windows again :( whats the best way to get grub back ?? Live-CD ??
[10:25] <tdn> hydroksyde_work,  but this is my sound device 0000:00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02)
[10:25] <lightbright> sethk: do you use paypal?
[10:25] <cafuego> Katie^: normally to ~/.wine/c_drive
[10:25] <sethk> lightbright, really, it's easy.  dd already has an integer variable where it is keeping the number of bytes, because it prints it at the end.
[10:25] <sethk> lightbright, I haven't set up paypal in a while.  I probably should again.
[10:25] <thegladiator> _jason, this happens occasionaly. yes if I reboot it works . but I am trying to understand the cause
[10:25] <lightbright> sethk: ok
[10:25] <sethk> lightbright, I've been doing all my contract work for one company the past few months
[10:26] <lightbright> sethk: how is that going for you?
[10:26] <TokenBad> ok lets try the question like this...I have some free space on my slave drive I want to convert from fat32 to linux format...how can I do that in ubuntu?
[10:26] <sethk> lightbright, it's going very well right now.  For a while there things were very slow
[10:26] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, ok then... try sending randomness to it... "cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp"
[10:26] <theSamo> are backports the same as multiverse for breezy?
[10:26] <lightbright> sethk: ok great
[10:26] <k0nd0r> I have a problem, I have a PCMCIA RDSI MODEM, but, by autodetect can't install .... pcmcia modems work in ubuntu? (sorry for my english)
[10:26] <sethk> lightbright, but when you have only one primary customer, you can lose that customer just like you can lose a job
[10:26] <thegladiator> where is the error happening , does any one have this error etc.  I am thinking of reporting a bug if few ppl have this . the problem is there is no proper error and when u reboot it works . hence ppl tend to overlook this issue
[10:26] <_jason> thegladiator, I had that error once
[10:26] <Katie^> how can you find a fiel?
[10:26] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, are you trying to be funny again?
[10:27] <_jason> Katie^, locate, find, whereis
[10:27] <lasindi[lappy] > If I don't have /dev/ttyUSB0, which device file do I need to use in order to access USB ports?
[10:27] <thegladiator> _jason, whats causing ? nautilus cud be the culprit ?
[10:27] <Deltaeskimo> suckers .... :(
[10:27] <adriyel> I have NVIDIA AC 97 mobo audio chip, 5.1 surround, can anyone help me?
[10:27] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, no, that's a way to test sound in *nix... it should produce noise
[10:27] <thegladiator> has ny one had the reported problem before in ubuntu ?
[10:27] <lightbright> sethk: yes thats why I have created a passive income source of income, because 1. I dont like working if I have to. 2. You cant rely on work these days
[10:27] <_jason> thegladiator, no idea, i tried figureing it out but gave up and just restarted
[10:27] <Cyorxamp> ok im on ubuntu linux, it looks like when its about to get into graphical mode it hangs... what could be up?
[10:27] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, yes. I can imagine. Why shouldn't I just use bmp in stead?
[10:27] <lightbright> sethk: so I get paid wether im sleeping or sittying on the beach :)
[10:27] <Silent_al> Katie^ OMG!!! an actual girl!!
[10:27] <_jason> does anyone know where gnome logs it's error messages if it does?  (for example and error produced by nautilus)
[10:27] <Silent_al> ^_^ =D
[10:28] <odal> Cyorxamp, x might not be configured correctly
[10:28] <thegladiator> ah. i think it is a bug somewhere in nautilus but cant figure out what is really causing this...some environment parameteres
[10:28] <Katie^> hi *waves* lo;
[10:28] <adriyel> can anyone help me with my surround sound please?
[10:28] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, might be an application config issue. This way we know that /dev/dsp works
[10:28] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, well cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp gives no sound.
[10:28] <Stormx2> Why can't I finds "Sans" in fonts:/// ?
[10:28] <sethk> _jason, some are logged into /var/log/messages.  Some are logged into files in the $HOME/.gnome2 directory.  It depends on the app.
[10:28] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, possibly a mixer issue?
[10:28] <lightbright> sethk: why dd is working , can I use my computer as normal?
[10:28] <_jason> sethk, thanks, do you happen to know where totem and/or mplayer would log to?
[10:28] <lightbright> Katie^: hello ;)
[10:29] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, ok? When cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp gives no sound?
[10:29] <sethk> lightbright, sure.  It won't exactly be responsive, though ... :)
[10:29] <lightbright> sethk: why = while
[10:29] <Katie^> hi hi
[10:29] <Gunfus> cafuego, hmm I did the update.. but screwed up a little my list of repositories.. and now I need your help
[10:29] <Silent_al> Katie^,  what r u doing here ? :-P
[10:29] <sethk> _jason, no, sorry, I don't use them.
[10:29] <Gunfus> cafuego, are you still around..?!
[10:29] <Katie^> finding out useful information :)
[10:29] <sethk> _jason, you can always strace the program and look for all the open calls
[10:29] <lightbright> sethk: so in the future, if I want to wipe my whole hdb1, I just use: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1 ?
[10:29] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, on my home machine, there is some mixer control which blocks the sound when it's enabled
[10:29] <navarone> Stormx have you installed the mstfonts package? I think that's the name...or mstcorefonts
[10:29] <odal> Cyorxamp, have you tried sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg to make sure all your values are ok
[10:29] <lsuactiafner> ubotu  tell Gunfus about easysource
[10:29] <sethk> lightbright, right.  you can wipe out the entire drie with /dev/hdb
[10:29] <Silent_al> Katie^, well, yes , im single :)
[10:29] <Silent_al> :P
[10:29] <sethk> lightbright, but of course with both of those you want to be very careful.  :)
[10:30] <lightbright> sethk: great!
[10:30] <Katie^> Lol
[10:30] <dabaR> haha, nice.
[10:30] <lightbright> sethk: both of what?
[10:30] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, I just installed and ran aumix and checked that the volume was turned up.
[10:30] <Gunfus> lsuactiafner, thanks
[10:30] <hydroksyde_work> ok
[10:30] <sethk>  dd to /dev/hdb1, dd to /dev/hdb
[10:30] <navarone> katie are you in uk?
[10:30] <cello_rasp> damn, who helped me regarding gstreamer and LAME?
[10:30] <glick> can someone help me with my firewire externel harddrive
[10:30] <adriyel> does ESound Daemon support surround sound?
[10:30] <Katie^> yeah
[10:30] <lightbright> sethk: yes but im not dd hda :)
[10:30] <glick> when i plug it in, i get errors when before it worked perfectly
[10:30] <thegladiator> does ny one here know where exactly the error wud be logged if I open a movie from nautilus and it closes immediately wiithout any error ??
[10:31] <glick> i can read the files
[10:31] <navarone> Katie I thought so with the "on my tits" comment...lol
[10:31] <glick> but it dosnt automatically mount it read write and put icons on the desktop
[10:31] <odal> thegladiator, nautilus or totem?
[10:31] <glick> and i cant write to them anymore
[10:31] <cello_rasp> thegladiator: appliactions > system tools > system log ?
[10:31] <cello_rasp> thegladiator: appliactions > system tools > system log ?
[10:31] <dabaR> !women
[10:31] <ubotu> hmm... women is Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ to learn how to act, mister!
[10:31] <sethk> glick, something must have changed in /etc/fstab
[10:31] <odal> thegladiator, run nautilus from terminal...it will log your application there
[10:31] <thegladiator> nautilus is where I call the movie from . totem and mplayer both crashed immediately
[10:31] <glick> sethk: but i just did a reinstall
[10:32] <sethk> glick, well, that will tend to change fstab  :)
[10:32] <thegladiator> odal, when I do a nautilus in terminnal it opens a window and gives me the bash immediately
[10:32] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, how do I check if something is blocking the sound?
[10:32] <sethk> Katie^, I keep scrolling up but I don't find anything about tits
[10:32] <eZe> what's the command the find out the current ip of the computer?
[10:32] <Katie^> what.
[10:32] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, yes! Now I got cat /dev/urandom > /dev/dsp to work!
[10:32] <navarone> sethk she was saying how the flash game was irritating her
[10:32] <glick> no nothing changed in fstab firewire works form pmounter
[10:32] <thegladiator> nautilus doesnt work like the other programs I guess where the rest of the process wud be displayed in the terminal
[10:33] <hydroksyde_work> tdn, excellent
[10:33] <topyli> sethk: those lines are R-rated
[10:33] <sethk> navarone, I guess I don't get it since I haven't seen the game.  :)
[10:33] <sethk> topyli, oh, no wonder I can't see them.
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[10:33] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, thanks :=
[10:33] <tdn> hydroksyde_work, :)
[10:33] <eZe> !ip
[10:33] <ubotu> Not a clue, eZe
[10:33] <eZe> what's the command to find out the current ip of the computer?
[10:33] <odal> thegladiator, if you type nautilus in the terminal it gives you a bash?
[10:33] <onyx3821> hey guys, any idea how to get sound working?  Just installed, on a dell 4600
[10:33] <cello_rasp> i am trying to create a working mp3 vbr gstreamer profile for use with sound juicer ... (someone helped me before but was afk :| )
[10:33] <thegladiator> cant see anything in system log
[10:33] <Seveas> eZe, ifconfig
[10:34] <thegladiator> odal yes after opening a nautilus window
[10:34] <eZe> thanks
[10:34] <thegladiator> back to shell
[10:34] <_jason> odal, yeah i tried that, it won't send the errors there
[10:34] <adriyel> Seveas, can you help me with my 5.1 surround? its AC 97 NVIDIA
[10:34] <Silent_al> Katie^, please excuse sethk , he dont get out much .
[10:34] <thegladiator> i get a nautilus window though where I can browse anything
[10:34] <adriyel> Seveas, killed ESD, switched to ALSA, totem set to 5.1, no change yet
[10:34] <glick> could id work in ubuntu and not in kubuntu?
[10:34] <odal> _jason, huh?
[10:34] <_jason> odal, sorry, was referring to the nautilus from bash thing
[10:34] <Seveas> adriyel, sorry, i'm a sound noob
[10:35] <odal> thegladiator, ok now do what you normally would in nautilus and when it crashes the terminal will have a bunch of stuff to spew out
[10:35] <odal> thegladiator, copy and paste it on pastebin
[10:35] <adriyel> Seveas, where's Crimsun? Is he afk? he could help me
[10:35] <onyx3821> hmm, two of us seem to have sound probs ?
[10:36] <adriyel> onyx3821, you having sound issues too m8?
[10:36] <lightbright> Seveas: im using "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1" and it seems to work well
[10:36] <adriyel> onyx3821, maybe I can help you, whats your prob?
[10:36] <thegladiator> odal, nope nautilus takes care of the rest of the opertaions it seems . when the app closes I dont get no error message
[10:36] <kondi_> Can somebody help me I search for a (mirror)respository that have the mplayer package
[10:36] <lightbright> Seveas: how can I upgrade to the latest nautilus?
[10:37] <Gunfus> lsuactiafner, I am still getting problems
[10:37] <_jason> kondi_, enable multiverse
[10:37] <kondi_> apt-get upgrade
[10:37] <odal> thegladiator, huh...well there must be a place that the error message is logged...i'm just not sure where...are you trying to open a dvd, wma, realaudio, other?
[10:38] <thegladiator> odal, divx  mostly . but regardless of the formats and files , this happens
[10:38] <odal> thegladiator, just making sure you had the proper codecs, libdvdcss2, etc.
[10:38] <kondi_> I m can't install mplayer please help me ?
[10:38] <odal> thegladiator, sounds like you do
[10:38] <Seveas> lightbright, you don't :), upgrading nautilus means upgrading gnome
[10:38] <thegladiator> odal, and the movie will work when I do a mplayer filename from the command line
[10:38] <odal> thegladiator, i hate to say it...but have you tried kaffeine?
[10:38] <Gunfus> kondi_, we are in the same situation
[10:38] <thegladiator> odal, yes I have the codecs . its a randomn error . yes even kaffeine has this error
[10:38] <Gunfus> kondi_, what part of the isntall are you..?!
[10:39] <Seveas> kondi_, you were given the instructions 10+ times already. If you don't listen there's not much we can do'
[10:39] <lightbright> Seveas: ah!  because I registred at that website you gave me about receiving updates in email and it said nautilus source has been approved
[10:39] <Gunfus> Seveas, woo.. really..?!
[10:39] <thegladiator> odal, every movie player that I check including VLC player,totem seem to have this problem
[10:39] <Seveas> lightbright, hehe, that
[10:39] <Seveas> 's for dapper
[10:39] <thegladiator> i have to deal with error 3-4 times in a day normally
[10:39] <lightbright> Seveas: :P sorry
[10:39] <odal> thegladiator, try posting this on ubuntuforums.org as well
[10:40] <odal> if you haven't already
[10:40] <odal> i'm not sure what the problem is
[10:40] <_jason> thegladiator, does it give you that prompt saying totem has crashed unexpectedly, please inform devs?
[10:40] <thegladiator> odal, yep I am going to paste . hope we will get a help from there
[10:40] <thegladiator> _jason, no error from totem as well . just closes the application
[10:40] <eZe> !firewall
[10:40] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[10:41] <thegladiator> _jason, it doesnt look like a crash either . just like it wud seem the movie is going to start in a jiffy and suddnly vanishes...
[10:41] <adriyel> soooo
[10:42] <adriyel> is ANYONE capable of helping me resolve my surround sound issue?
[10:42] <adriyel> google has proven futile at this point
[10:42] <thegladiator> i think its nautilus thats causing this somehow
[10:42] <thegladiator> because from the command line atleast mplayer works , didnt check totem
[10:43] <Katie^> anyone good with wine?
[10:43] <thegladiator> sometimes I dont drink normally
[10:44] <thegladiator> :/
[10:44] <odal> Katie^, what do you need?
[10:44] <brandon2> hey im new to linux and have a little problem, i installed my wireless card with ndiswrapper and got it up and working, then i had to move it to a different pci slot, and ended up moving it back to the same pci, in that process i reinstalled the driver and now i dont have a wlan0, did i forget to do something? i have drivers installed and hardware is found
[10:44] <Katie^> i try and run wine controls and it says it cannot load applets?
[10:44] <frazmanw> I am running Ubuntu 5.10 breezy for 64BIT I have an ATI X300 graphics card, I installed fglrx drivers and changed ati to fglrx in xorg.conf file. Xno longer works. I changed it back and X is fine but no accelleration. Any ideas anyone?
[10:44] <eZe> how can I configure the firewall to allow port 631?
[10:45] <thegladiator> odal, where shud I post under ubuntuforums
[10:45] <thegladiator> I see a subsection forums...
[10:45] <adriyel> *cries*
[10:45] <Xoritor> can someone point me to a concise document that states what is different between debian and ubuntu?
[10:45] <odal> thegladiator, under desktop
[10:45] <lightbright> sethk: you there?
[10:45] <thegladiator> yep
[10:45] <Xoritor> please
[10:45] <sethk> lightbright, yes
[10:46] <lightbright> sethk: it finished! how can I verify that hdb1 is now been wiped with all zero's?
[10:46] <brandon2> frazmanw i just installed an ati card and i had to run a config file before i could get it working, let me see if i can find the location
[10:46] <odal> Xoritor, just googlde
[10:46] <odal> Xoritor, just google
[10:46] <sethk> lightbright, with dd.  do something like:   dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=some.file bs=1024 count=4
[10:46] <sethk> lightbright, that will get the first four blocks
[10:46] <frazmanw> brandon2:  that would be great thanks
[10:47] <lightbright> sethk: I type: "dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=some.file bs=1024 count=4" ?
[10:47] <sethk> lightbright, you can use skip= to skip data at the beginning and get something from the middle
[10:47] <odal> Xoritor, one major difference is the release schedule between ubuntu and debian
[10:47] <Xoritor> odal, i am coming up with a lot, but nothing "fim"
[10:47] <sethk> lightbright, right, some.file being of course an arbitrary name
[10:47] <nuzzy> Hi all - Just tried Ubunutu after many other distros and it rocks!  Does the Kubuntu CD/DVD run the same as the Ubuntu install except use KDE as the default desktop?
[10:47] <lightbright> sethk: i dont underastans
[10:47] <Xoritor> odal, right 6 months for ubuntu
[10:47] <odal> Xoritor, debian's next release is schedule for 12/2006
[10:47] <lightbright> sethk: I replace "some,file" with what?
[10:47] <Xoritor> odal, also fewer "platforms (archs)" supported in ubuntu
[10:47] <nuzzy> also...how do I get to the gdm properties to change my theme?
[10:47] <sethk> lightbright, you are just using dd again, except instead of if and of both being devices, of is a file name
[10:48] <odal> Xoritor, yup and an emphasis on stability in debian
[10:48] <sethk> lightbright, any name.  such as /home/lightbright/xyz
[10:48] <lightbright> sethk: i dont underastand, sorry
[10:48] <andkore> so is synaptic different than apt-get?
[10:48] <sethk> lightbright, or /tmp/something
[10:48] <dabaR> odal: debian does not have a schedule, do they?
[10:48] <andkore> i'm thinking about using kubuntu or ubuntu
[10:48] <thegladiator> odal, did you have that problem before?
[10:48] <sethk> lightbright, any old name in a directory where you have write privileges
[10:48] <lightbright> sethk: does the name have to be of an actual file?
[10:48] <lightbright> sethk: ok
[10:48] <thegladiator> did anyone have that problem before ?
[10:48] <odal> dabaR: not really but they are expecting to release etch in dec 2006
[10:48] <sethk> lightbright, no.  If it is an actual file, the file will be erased
[10:48] <Xoritor> odal, right, but what is different with the distro?
[10:48] <navarone> nuzzy you can install the kde desktop in buuntu as well and choose which environment to use at login by clicking sessions and choosing kde or gnome
[10:48] <odal> Xoritor, not a whole lot
[10:48] <Xoritor> hmm
[10:48] <Xoritor> ok
[10:48] <odal> Xoritor, sarge is old
[10:48] <Xoritor> right
[10:48] <thegladiator> movie players randomnly not opening fom natuilus ,  opening for a second and closing immediately ?
[10:49] <_jason> thegladiator, yep
[10:49] <odal> Xoritor, most things are autodetected in ubuntu and require work with debian
[10:49] <brandon2> frazmanw i think it was /lib/modules/YOURKERNELRELEASE/kernel/drivers/video
[10:49] <KillerSmurf> anything really broken in dapper right now?
[10:49] <Xoritor> does ubuntu use chrooted 32bit env on pure 64bit installs or multilib?
[10:49] <Xoritor> hmm
[10:49] <lightbright> sethk: ok done!  What do I look for now?
[10:49] <frazmanw> brandon2: did you use the synaptic package or direct from ati?
[10:49] <zelevw> Hi guys ...is there a program that can spy on employee's time spent on skype, IM, Word, etc...? thanks
[10:50] <dabaR> As usual, the release goals and the release date are not going to be determined in advance. To put it simply, "Debian releases when it is time".
[10:50] <navarone> nuzzy...System/Preferences/Theme
[10:50] <dabaR> that is more correct than what he said.
[10:50] <brandon2> frazmanw type in fglrx, hit tab, and youll see it, i think its fglrxconfig
[10:50] <Xoritor> is the 64bit ubuntu based on the unsupported 64bit stuff from debian?
[10:50] <sethk> lightbright, do this:  hexdump -C file.name
[10:50] <lightbright> sethk: I typed: " sudo dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=hints.html bs=1024 count=4
[10:50] <lightbright> "  What do I do now?
[10:50] <brandon2> frazmanw i used the synaptic package
[10:50] <sethk> lightbright, where file.name is whatever name you chose
[10:50] <brandon2> but i just installed it and then ran that config file from the terminal
[10:50] <brandon2> it all worked after that
[10:50] <thegladiator> thanks . I have submitted the error to ubuntuforums.org
[10:50] <frazmanw> brandon2: I will try, I just amm not sure if anything is different cause I am 64 bit
[10:50] <lightbright> sethk: says: hexdump: index.html: No such file or directory
[10:51] <sethk> lightbright, that will print out the contents of that file as text (even though it's a binary file; you need hexdump to make the binary recognizable)
[10:51] <Xoritor> where is the "package list" for ubuntu
[10:51] <brandon2> im new to all this, so it might have not been the BEST way to do it, but it works :)
[10:51] <jenda> Any experience with EasyTag? I'd like to assing file names according to their tags.
[10:51] <Xoritor> i see one on lauchpad for dapper
[10:51] <sethk> lightbright, you called your file index.html?
[10:51] <Xoritor> but what about breezy?
[10:51] <dabaR> !packages
[10:51] <ubotu> You can browse the packages in the Ubuntu repositories from http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:51] <KillerSmurf> Is anything really broken in dapper right now? The major things like gnome or Xorg?  When is flight 3 being released?
[10:51] <brandon2> frazmanw ah, well thats a start i guess
[10:51] <Xoritor> and is dapper stable enough to run?
[10:51] <thegladiator> kindly read through this error and do reply if you have any help . thank you .
[10:51] <frazmanw> brandon2: tks
[10:51] <thegladiator> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=660075
[10:51] <cafuego> KillerSmurf: yes?
[10:51] <lightbright> sethk: 00000000  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00  |................|
[10:51] <brandon2> np
[10:51] <EnglishStan> Hey there people
[10:51] <EnglishStan> Linux n00b here
[10:51] <lightbright> sethk: im using hints.html
[10:51] <thegladiator> !noob
[10:51] <ubotu> I heard noob is a four letter word, just like rtfm or jfgi. Don't use it
[10:51] <Katie^> how do i execute a .sh?
[10:51] <KillerSmurf> cafuego it is broken?
[10:51] <sethk> lightbright, looks good.  you wrote zeroes, and those are zeros
[10:51] <Xoritor> heh
[10:52] <lightbright> sethk: do I need to copy it to hdb1 first?
[10:52] <EnglishStan> lol
[10:52] <dabaR> Xoritor: dapper is the development version, not a release. And, as such, you should run it if you feel like experimenting, or if you are handy with it, or if you do not care about everything working all the time.
[10:52] <sethk> Katie^, ordinarily   sh  whatever.sh
[10:52] <ompaul> KillerSmurf, follow http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes just so much is going on who knows
[10:52] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[10:52] <brandon2> can someone help me set up ndiswrapper?
[10:52] <Xoritor> dabaR, i always feel like sexperimenting
[10:52] <sethk> Katie^, or   chmod +x whatever.sh  ;  ./whatever.sh
[10:52] <KillerSmurf> k thanks
[10:52] <Xoritor> dabaR, this is for a home system...
[10:52] <dabaR> Xoritor: tell you geese.
[10:52] <dabaR> hehe
[10:52] <Xoritor> dabaR, more play than anything else
[10:52] <Xoritor> geese?
[10:53] <dabaR> ya, about sexperimenting, or a goat.
[10:53] <lightbright> sethk: so "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1"  filled my whole hdb1 with zero's?
[10:53] <Katie^> yay
[10:53] <dabaR> haha.
[10:53] <Katie^> thanks
[10:53] <Xoritor> lol
[10:53] <Xoritor> sorry ... typeo
[10:53] <sethk> lightbright, right
[10:53] <andkore> how ironic
[10:53] <EnglishStan> Can someone tell me how to install firefox, and where i get it from (mozila doesn't seem to wanna give it me)
[10:53] <Xoritor> dang my fingers to a chopping block
[10:53] <andkore> EnglishStan: umm, use synaptic or whatever ubuntu has
[10:53] <dabaR> EnglishStan: ya, mozilla does not like people to use its product.
[10:53] <dabaR> !ff1.5
[10:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:53] <andkore> (i haven't used kubuntu yet)
[10:53] <KillerSmurf> ompaul... hanks
[10:54] <KillerSmurf> thanks
[10:54] <EnglishStan> i am using ubuntu
[10:54] <ompaul> KillerSmurf, k
[10:54] <lightbright> sethk: that hints.html is on my hda
[10:54] <andkore> EnglishStan: same thing...
[10:54] <_jason> EnglishStan, you should have firefox installed
[10:54] <Xoritor> but seriously... does ubuntu us multilib or chrooted 32bit env?
[10:54] <andkore> ertard
[10:54] <andkore> its just different DE
[10:54] <Xoritor> in the pure 64bit install
[10:54] <sethk> lightbright, ok, but does that have anything to do with what we were talking about?
[10:54] <lightbright> sethk: no idea, you are very confusing
[10:55] <EnglishStan> i have something called Konqueror
[10:55] <lightbright> sethk: I said I wiped hdb1 and then you said do hexdump
[10:55] <sethk> lightbright, I said to do dd if=/dev/hdb1 of=some.file   and to THEN do hexdump on some.file
[10:55] <thegladiator> EnglishStan, whats the color of the login screen ? the place where you type ur username and password ? :-)
[10:55] <lightbright> sethk: ok let me try that
[10:56] <EnglishStan> i'm colour blind :P:P:P
[10:56] <sethk> lightbright, remember the command with count=4  (you don't want it to copy the entire /dev/hdb1)
[10:56] <EnglishStan> but i think it's blue
[10:56] <thegladiator> EnglishStan, is it blue or brownish sort of ? and whats the wallpaper ! :)
[10:56] <thegladiator> i think you might be having kubuntu then EnglishStan
[10:56] <EnglishStan> the wallpapaer is the globe
[10:56] <MrPockets> can gnome baker burn DVDs?
[10:56] <sethk> Xoritor, the linux kernel supports chroot.  it isn't in any way a function of the distro
[10:56] <TokenBad> ok how can I use gparted to take some free space on a drive and make it a linux partition?
[10:56] <thegladiator> kubuntu wallpaper is globe or something ?
[10:57] <d3mi4n> can anyone help me with getting my airport wireless in my powerbook up and running?
[10:57] <ron_> anyone know if there is p7zip for hoary .. bootsplash packages or a kde debian menufix?
[10:57] <nbound> is there a way to force a cdrom to eject?
[10:57] <KillerSmurf> Mrpockets DVD's as in backup or copy movies
[10:57] <EnglishStan> so i'm at the wrong place to ask about Kubuntu?
[10:57] <nbound> !kubuntu
[10:57] <ubotu> kubuntu is, like, totally, Ubuntu+KDE, (not a fork) ; see http://kubuntu.org and you can go to #kubuntu for KDE-related help, or install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[10:57] <thegladiator> EnglishStan, do you know to take a screen shot of ur compter ?
[10:57] <ompaul> nbound, sudo eject /nameofdrive
[10:57] <EnglishStan> yeah
[10:57] <MrPockets> i have home video files here that i want to burn onto a DVD
[10:57] <KillerSmurf> nbound /umount -f /media/cdrom
[10:57] <nbound> ompaul, thx
[10:57] <EnglishStan> i'm on a windows machine at the ,moment
[10:57] <thegladiator> yeah EnglishStan , kubuntu is #kubuntu
[10:57] <thegladiator> oh k
[10:57] <MacSlow> ehm... what are the package names for the gtk+-2.x header files and such?
[10:57] <lightbright> sethk: its ok I wont bother!  I did: "sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1" and thats all I will do :)  Ill trust that it wiped my hdb1, no need to check :P
[10:57] <dabaR> ron: "/msg ubotu info p7zip"
[10:58] <EnglishStan> ok, i'm at #kubuntu now :P:P
[10:58] <thegladiator> if u need help with konqueror etc... #kubuntu is ur best bet
[10:58] <MacSlow> I don't seem able to find them with synaptic
[10:58] <thegladiator> kewl :p
[10:58] <sethk> lightbright, it did  :)
[10:58] <flook_> Hi peeps.  wireless on a laptop, how do you change the channel / frequency of the card?
[10:58] <dabaR> ron_: it is in universe.
[10:58] <wolki> hi
[10:58] <lightbright> sethk: so I just remembered that there was a file I needed on hdb1!  How can I undelete it now?
[10:59] <TokenBad> ok lets try the question like this...I have some free space on my slave drive I want to convert from fat32 to linux format...how can I do that in ubuntu?
[10:59] <d3mi4n> does Dapper support the Airport wireless extreme card?
[10:59] <w0rd0r> man I loaded kkkbuntu and my burning cross icons haven't installed? can anyone help?
[10:59] <nbound> killersmurf, ompaul, neither way worked, im in a 2cd install in wine, an di need to put in cd 2 =(
[10:59] <ron_> i thought so but wont apt-cache search it or install it either
[10:59] <dabaR> lightbright: basically, without backups, there is no such thing as undelete.
[10:59] <KillerSmurf> nbound ...... you didn't mention wine
[10:59] <thegladiator> odal, _jason I got the error report from terminal when I ran totem instaed of mplayer...
[10:59] <dabaR> ron_: paste your sources.list to pastebin, if you are sure you have universe enabled.
[10:59] <thegladiator> I am posting it ...
[10:59] <_jason> thegladiator, can you link also pls?
[11:00] <nbound> KillerSmurf, got any more ideas?
[11:00] <KillerSmurf> sorry I can't help u with wine
[11:00] <nbound> damn
[11:00] <lightbright> dabaR: surely there is a way to undelete a file?
[11:00] <KillerSmurf> but check the forums
[11:00] <thegladiator> yes posting...
[11:00] <andkore> lightbright: no...
[11:00] <lightbright> sethk: why does it now say: /dev/hdb1              16T   16T     0 100% /mnt
[11:00] <Xoritor> sethk, i know what chroot is, and i know how it works... but is the 64bit install achieving the use of 32bit binaries via a chroot installed env or the use of multilib
[11:00] <andkore> "undelete" programs in windows, etc really make backups
[11:00] <ron_> i'm a seasoned debian user everything is unchecked and added as well to get mplayer etc
[11:00] <andkore> or put "deleted" files in a secret location
[11:00] <lightbright> andkore: I am sure the feds could undelete a file from a Ubuntu system, so dont say there is no way
[11:00] <d3mi4n> can anyone help me with getting my airport wireless in my powerbook up and running?
[11:00] <nbound> is there a way to force a cdrom to eject (even if its in use)?
[11:01] <ron_> nbound rmmod autofs
[11:01] <Xoritor> sethk, there are 2 ways to do it 1. chroot installed 32bit env and 2. multilib
[11:01] <adub> can someone help me get java working
[11:01] <ron_> or autofs 4
[11:01] <lightbright> nbound: type eject
[11:01] <andkore> sry
[11:01] <thegladiator> _jason,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7180
[11:01] <Xoritor> what i want to know is what does ubuntu use
[11:01] <andkore> back to the undelete question
[11:01] <nbound> ron_, what does that do?
[11:01] <Dreamglider> where can i get frostwire in a deb file ?
[11:01] <andkore> those programs just hide it
[11:01] <Xoritor> fedora uses multilib
[11:01] <andkore> anyways
[11:01] <lightbright> why does hdb1 report as being 16T?
[11:02] <d3mi4n> does Dapper support the Airport wireless extreme card?
[11:02] <Xoritor> thats what i have been using for a while now
[11:02] <adub> _jason the java worked for a worked one time then quit working ?????
[11:02] <adub> im clueless man i have done what i am suppose to do
[11:02] <Travis> how do I authenticate APACHE2 agains LDAP
[11:02] <ron_> nbound it removes the cdrom auto driver
[11:02] <_jason> adub, did you check alternatives to see if something changed it again?
[11:03] <odat> Seveas, still here
[11:03] <nbound> ron_, how do i get it goin again after (i only need to change cds)
[11:03] <ron_> daba did everything get fixed with the debian versus ubuntu .debs?
[11:03] <lightbright> nbound: did eject work?
[11:03] <nbound> lightbright, no, because its in use
[11:03] <ron_> in regards to mismatched .debs?
[11:03] <lightbright> nbound: it works for me even if in use
[11:03] <adub> _jason no i have not what is teh alternatives command i need to run again i forgot what you had told me
[11:04] <MacSlow> folks... I would really like to know how to get the header-files for gtk+ and friends under dapper.
[11:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell adub about multijava
[11:04] <lightbright> nbound: type in shell "sudo eject"
[11:04] <nbound> lightbright, even in use by wine =P
[11:04] <nbound> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:04] <nbound> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:04] <nbound> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[11:04] <nbound> =P
[11:04] <Xoritor> Travis, AuthLDAPURL ldap://host.domain.tld/ou=People,dc=domain,dc=tld
[11:04] <Seveas> nbound, please don't paste in here
[11:04] <MacSlow> I mean it must exists... how else would anybody have compiled the gnome desktop :)
[11:04] <lightbright> nbound: kill the process then
[11:04] <thegladiator> nbound : the cd drive appears to be readin g or something
[11:04] <Xoritor> Travis, put that in the .htaccess
[11:04] <nbound> Seveas, sorry i didnt think it was worth a pastebin
[11:05] <ron_> nbound should work after removing autfs4 driver i believe
[11:05] <Seveas> MacSlow, libgtk2.0-dev
[11:05] <Travis> Xoritor thats all I need to do?
[11:05] <lightbright> Seveas: who said he pasted? :)  he may be a good typer hehe
[11:05] <Seveas> MacSlow, also /msg ubotu compiling
[11:05] <Xoritor> Travis, along with the AuthType, AuthName, and the Require valid-user
[11:05] <thegladiator> _jason, saw the error ?
[11:05] <Travis> Xoritor do I need an modules or anything?
[11:05] <MacSlow> Seveas, gee... lib*
[11:05] <brandon2> could someone help me set up my wireless card? i cant get a wlan0
[11:05] <lightbright> Seveas: why does hdb1 report as being 16T when I type df -h? any ideas?
[11:05] <nbound> lightbright, i want the process to remain running ;)
[11:05] <MacSlow> Seveas, I'm just too used to Fedora's rpms :)
[11:05] <andkore> is it compatible with linux?
[11:05] <thegladiator> _jason,http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7180
[11:05] <glick> anyone any idea why in gnome my firewire drive only mounts readonly, and on kubuntu desktop doesnt show icons on the desktop at all, only error windows pop up?
[11:05] <nbound> otherwise this would be easy =P
[11:05] <Seveas> lightbright, woah :) huge disk :)
[11:05] <Xoritor> Travis, if you have the  auth_ldap_module modules/mod_auth_ldap.so and the ldap_module modules/mod_ldap.so
[11:05] <Seveas> MacSlow, fedora packagers are sloppy
[11:05] <glick> it used to work perfectly in ubuntu
[11:06] <Xoritor> Travis, yes you have to have those 2 modules
[11:06] <thegladiator> yum is badly organized . packages are not bad
[11:06] <Seveas> glick, did you perhaps add it to the fstab?
[11:06] <Xoritor> Travis, look in your httpd.conf and see if they are loaded
[11:06] <MacSlow> Seveas, well the project is called "gtk+" :)
[11:06] <glick> Seveas: it uses pmount
[11:06] <_jason> thegladiator, I saw it.  One thing is confusing me.  Both mplayer and totem crash similarly.... I don't understand enough about it.  To me not enough resources means not enough memory
[11:06] <glick> it doesnt have an fstab entry
[11:06] <Seveas> thegladiator, they are, I've worked with them and they completely suck compared to .deb files
[11:06] <nvez> anyone knows a program to change bitrates?
[11:06] <nvez> or to make like less quality avi/
[11:06] <nvez> ?
[11:06] <Xoritor> Travis, its actually documented in the httpd docs on apaches website
[11:06] <d3mi4n> Can anyone help me compile Dapper?
[11:06] <Seveas> nvez, mencoder / transcode
[11:06] <nbound> ron_, ERROR: Module autofs does not exist in /proc/modules
[11:07] <gnomefreak> not to mention yum is extreamly slow and fairly unstable (packages dont always install)
[11:07] <thegladiator> Seveas, i see. some ppl say its the yum ...how it works
[11:07] <nbound> hahaha
[11:07] <Seveas> thegladiator, both :)
[11:07] <adub> _jason its still not working
[11:07] <Xoritor> Travis, its actually really easy
[11:07] <thegladiator> :)
[11:07] <ron_> nmound try autofs4
[11:07] <adub> i have tried the alternatives of all the java there
[11:07] <nbound> ok
[11:07] <_jason> adub, tell the room the problem you are having, maybe someone else can help
[11:07] <nbound> ron_, same error
[11:07] <nbound> =P
[11:07] <thegladiator> _jason, clearly not a memory issue for me coz the ram is like 512....but then mplayer from terminal is working also
[11:07] <ron_> i may be wrong  because i'm not used to ubuntu but that should work for most linux
[11:07] <Travis> Xoritor I have them, but they're not loaded in apache2.conf
[11:07] <Travis> what do I put?
[11:07] <lightbright> Seveas: so whats 16T mean?
[11:08] <Seveas> lightbright, 16 terabyte
[11:08] <joruss> anyway to tell what version of a driver is used in Ubuntu ?
[11:08] <_jason> thegladiator, yeah see, does that makes sense?
[11:08] <ron_> ehhh i need coffee
[11:08] <Seveas> I'd love to have that on a harddisk :)
[11:08] <Xoritor> Travis, LoadModule ldap_module modules/mod_ldap.so
[11:08] <Travis> k
[11:08] <nbound> lightbright, ill swap ya ;P
[11:08] <lightbright> Seveas: its 10Gig
[11:08] <Xoritor> Travis, LoadModule auth_ldap_module modules/mod_auth_ldap.so
[11:08] <Seveas> joruss, which driver?
[11:08] <Xoritor> Travis, those 2 lines
[11:08] <adub> i can not get java to work with mozilla/firefox i have installed i have created symlinks i have copied the lib file to the plugin directory this is aggitating me to wits end and is crazy
[11:08] <lightbright> Seveas: so why it says 16T?
[11:08] <accela> do I have to do anything special to get sound to work in tuxracer?
[11:08] <joruss> it's the fpit driver for a fujitsu 3400 touchscreen
[11:08] <Seveas> adub, are you using firefox 1.5 or the Ubuntu fox?
[11:08] <_jason> thegladiator, try different types of videos.  See if it has to do with the format
[11:09] <Seveas> lightbright, no idea
[11:09] <Xoritor> Travis, then make sure the directory is setup to use .htaccess for auth
[11:09] <lightbright> Seveas: all I did was:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1
[11:09] <lightbright> Seveas: could that have screwed the hdb1?
[11:09] <adub> seveas i will  have to check i dont even know the version
[11:09] <_jason> adub, oh I thought you were the guy that couldn't get azureus to run after installing openoffice :P
[11:09] <Seveas> adub, did you manually install firefox?
[11:09] <adub> i believe i apt-get install
[11:09] <Seveas> adub, ok, that precludes ff1.5 issues
[11:10] <adub> version 1.0.7
[11:10] <Seveas> adub, how did you install java, from a .deb file?
[11:10] <lightbright> Seveas: after I did:  dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1  Now it wont mount either!  Any ideas why?
[11:10] <gnomefreak> adub, open it click help than about firefox
[11:10] <holotone> How do I mount my shared fat32 drive automatically every time I log in? Currently, I have to go to system > disks and then mount it manually.. Bonus points if I can get an icon for it on my desktop...
[11:10] <Seveas> lightbright, of course it does not mount, there's no filesystem on it
[11:10] <lightbright> sethk: what did you do to me? :P  now my hdb1 wont mount anymore
[11:10] <holotone> it's dev/hda5
[11:10] <Seveas> lightbright, mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[11:10] <lightbright> Seveas: ah ok thanks
[11:10] <sethk> lightbright, of course not, you wiped it
[11:10] <adub> yes seveas from a deb file and originally from a rpm that i alienated then debbed then that didnt  work _jason sent me an original deb that worked one time i loaded a java applet
[11:11] <lightbright> sethk: hehe ok!  ill type: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1
[11:11] <_jason> holotone, mount it to /media/somedirectoryyoumake and search the wiki for fstab
[11:11] <adub> but then when i reloaded the browser it has yet to work again
[11:11] <GeorgeAScott> hello... nobody was awake in the new users room... how long is the line for help?
[11:11] <Seveas> adub, eww, that alienated rpm may very well have screwed things over...
[11:11] <tkup> what's a good UML drawing program? I've been using dia for over a year now but I want something better if possible. I tried umbrello but didn't like it. Can you propose one?
[11:11] <glick> hmmm maybe the pmount upgrade will help
[11:11] <sethk> lightbright, ok.  I use mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1  but the result is identical
[11:11] <adub> seveas yeah that is what im thinking as well
[11:11] <Seveas> adub, I'd like you to type in the following command and put the output on the pastebin:
[11:11] <adub> how can i completely remove those from my system
[11:11] <lightbright> Seveas: is that command you gave me, the same as: sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:11] <lightbright> sethk: ah ok
[11:11] <holotone> thanks!
[11:12] <adub> seveas i am all eyes im willing to try anything
[11:12] <kestas> is there any way to allow another user to open apps on the same X display as your own? :o
[11:12] <Seveas> ls -al /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins && ls -al /etc/alternatives && dpkg -l '*sun*'
[11:12] <lightbright> sethk: so sudo mkfs.ext3 /dev/hdb1 gives the exact same results as: mkfs -t ext3 /dev/hdb1 ?
[11:12] <Seveas> kestas, xhost +
[11:12] <holotone> searching the wiki for "fstab" sends me to "ItalianRedirect"
[11:12] <kestas> Seveas, thanks
[11:12] <holotone> what's that all about?
[11:12] <sethk> lightbright, hes
[11:12] <lightbright> sethk: hes?
[11:12] <vk> is it possible to add some new fun plugins on the panels in ubuntu, you know, add to panel.
[11:12] <sethk> lightbright, yes, that is
[11:13] <lightbright> sethk: ok :)
[11:13] <thegladiator> odd
[11:13] <thegladiator> in my gnome some stick key popped up and my keyboard is not responding
[11:13] <_jason> holotone, sorry I was eating, here is the link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions but go to the manual part (at least that's what I suggest)
[11:13] <lightbright> sethk: does hdb1 need to be mounted for that command?
[11:14] <thegladiator> i am in de now
[11:14] <thegladiator> kde*
[11:14] <sethk> lightbright, you can't mount it before you make the file system, so the answer had better be no.  :)
[11:14] <holotone> _jas: thanks!
[11:14] <thegladiator> how can I get the keyboard working ?
[11:14] <thegladiator> !stickkey
[11:14] <ubotu> thegladiator: Are you smoking crack?
[11:14] <thegladiator> !stick key
[11:14] <ubotu> thegladiator: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:14] <lightbright> sethk: ignorare that last question, I realised after I asked it :P
[11:14] <thegladiator> does anyone know why the keyboard got stuk in gnome ?
[11:14] <nbound> anyone reckon they can get my cdrom to eject (even with a program accessing it)?
[11:15] <lightbright> nbound: I told you
[11:15] <nbound> lightbright, that doesnt work
[11:15] <_jason> nbound, a paperclip can probably do that
[11:15] <Seveas> nbound, the command 'eject' should do it
[11:15] <joruss> has anyone had issues getting xvkbd to run?
[11:15] <thegladiator> I got some stick key opo up and I dont remember what I clicked and suddenly the keyboardis not responging in gnome
[11:15] <nbound> _jason, no it sucks it back in =/
[11:15] <nbound> Seveas, tryed that
[11:15] <Travis> Xoritor can you send me an example .htaccess file?
[11:16] <holotone> is vfat fat32?
[11:16] <nbound> Seveas, umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:16] <nbound> umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[11:16] <nbound> eject: unmount of `/media/cdrom0' failed
[11:16] <brandon2> could i get some help with ndiswrapper?
[11:16] <_jason> holotone, yes
[11:16] <nbound> sorry again for the paste
[11:16] <lightbright> sethk: ok all finished!  my hdb1 has been wiped clean!  Now the feds cant even undelete it according to some people :P
[11:16] <GeorgeAScott> anybody?  how can i access my other harddrive.... it has all of my media on it...
[11:16] <Seveas> nbound, close all things that have files on the disk open
[11:16] <thegladiator> _jason, do you knwow that thing ? some stick key poped up... nad I clicked something dont remember exactly...was looking into the other prlbm...and gmoe key board stopped responding
[11:16] <sethk> lightbright, the data is no  longer there, that is correct.
[11:16] <Seveas> like the file manager
[11:16] <_jason> thegladiator, nope have no idea
[11:16] <thegladiator> gnome*
[11:16] <gaby> r u guys kids?
[11:16] <lightbright> sethk: yes but surely there is a way to get it with special hardware etc?
[11:16] <nbound> Seveas, i have a two part install running, thats why i need the second disk
[11:17] <holotone> so, would "/dev/hda1   /media/shared   vfat   user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000   0   0" mount the drive and set it to mount automatically at each boot?
[11:17] <icyvapor> anyone familiar with using mesa/glut in ubuntu?
[11:17] <sethk> lightbright, no, not really.  you can't get the data back when the data is gone.
[11:17] <Seveas> nbound, hmm, some wine+windows thing I guess?
[11:17] <lightbright> sethk: hmm interesting
[11:17] <thegladiator> Seveas, can U help me ? the keyboard in gnome is stuck
[11:17] <nbound> Seveas, yep =/
[11:17] <sethk> lightbright, I suppose it might leave quantum traces, but I don't think anyone has a way of gathering information from taht
[11:17] <Seveas> nbound, I'd say: no way of doing that
[11:17] <navarone> GeorgeAScott, how are you trying to access it/what file system (fat32/ntfs/what have you tried?
[11:17] <icyvapor> ... no one? ..
[11:17] <nbound> Seveas, bugger
[11:17] <Seveas> !tell icyvapor about anyone
[11:17] <thegladiator> Seveas, I think some stcik popu came and I clicked something
[11:18] <lightbright> sethk: how can I hear of so many people getting their computers ceased which was wiped and they find data on them?
[11:18] <tristanmike> nbound, do you have only the one cd? could you put in a second one and point it to it?
[11:18] <sagarp> X is acting strangely, when i drag windows around, it takes up too much CPU and they lag a little bit...could this be related to the dist-upgrade i did to dapper?
[11:18] <Seveas> thegladiator, sticky keys perhaps?
[11:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, stick key*
[11:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, yes
[11:18] <nbound> tristanmike, only the one...
[11:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, what I can do now ?
[11:18] <icyvapor> Seveas: what's that?
[11:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, i m n KDE now
[11:18] <Seveas> thegladiator, system -> prefs -> keyboard
[11:18] <adub> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7182
[11:18] <sethk> lightbright, because they didn't really wipe them.  They just repartitioned and did mkfs
[11:18] <Seveas> icyvapor, ubotu sent you something
[11:18] <thegladiator> Seveas, yes what there ?
[11:18] <nbound> tristanmike, i could put in another though... but waste of time for one install
[11:18] <sethk> lightbright, you actually wrote over all the data with zeroes
[11:18] <GeorgeAScott> navarone, the other drive is fat32....  most of the files are for windows...
[11:18] <Nyven> Hi, has anyone used openVPN to setup a VPN between 2 ubuntu servers ?
[11:18] <icyvapor> Seveas: got it , thx
[11:18] <Seveas> thegladiator, disable sticky keys :)
[11:18] <tristanmike> nbound, what about an iso mounting program from within wine?
[11:18] <dekela> Hey people
[11:19] <lightbright> sethk: ah ok!  well sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1 seems like a great secure command then!  Thanks for all your help
[11:19] <lightbright> brb in 10mins
[11:19] <navarone> lightbright, if you are very worried perhaps a blowtorch and large magnet are in order...<s>
[11:19] <sethk> lightbright, if you do mkfs on a partition, it will appear to you to be empty, but in that case it is in fact recoverable, or at least much of it is.
[11:19] <thegladiator> Seveas,let me see . dont think I saw that one
[11:19] <dekela> Can anyone help me with something?
[11:19] <sethk> lightbright, yes, writing over every sector of the disk is very very safe
[11:19] <lightbright> navarone: Ill consider that option, thanks :)
[11:19] <nbound> tristanmike, heh that would work, but i cbf doin it =P
[11:19] <lightbright> navarone: yet I feel the command I used will suffice for now ;)
[11:19] <icyvapor> I need help about compiling a OpenGL program in C
[11:19] <_jason> ubotu, tell dekela about helpme
[11:19] <lightbright> sethk: should I do that more than once?
[11:19] <thegladiator> Seveas, how can I launch it from KDE ? any ideas ?
[11:19] <tristanmike> nbound, cbf?
[11:20] <icyvapor> something wrong with linking the library
[11:20] <thegladiator> Seveas, gnome-keyboard-properties
[11:20] <nbound> tristanmike, cant be ####ed
[11:20] <navarone> GeorgeAScott, are you familiar enuff with ubuntu that you could copy and paste your fstab into  pastebin? fstab is in /etc
[11:20] <dekela> Got my Ubuntu up and running
[11:20] <mcdenyer> hey all i just installed 5.04 and it is completly clean.  i havnt updated it or anything.   im newb and need help upgrading to 510
[11:20] <_jason> ubotu, tell dekela about enter
[11:20] <dekela> Followed most of the wiki to get it done
[11:20] <tristanmike> nbound, bothered?
[11:20] <holotone> why is there a lock icon on my fat32 drive that I just mounted?
[11:20] <lightbright> sethk: do I need to type: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1" more than once. like 35 times or something?
[11:20] <dekela> My only mistake was to install expose
[11:20] <_jason> holotone, you don't have permission, read that page and look at the table that is there
[11:20] <dekela> I did metacity --replace as SU and as normal user
[11:20] <mcdenyer> can somone pm me and help me upgrade to 510
[11:20] <GeorgeAScott> this is the first day that i've had it...   i knew archlinux a bit better... tell me where past bin is and i can
[11:20] <lightbright> sethk: why are there some qipe programs that wipe 35 times if once is all thats needed?
[11:20] <tristanmike> nbound, oh well, those are my options, lol :P
[11:20] <nbound> tristanmike, yeah bothered with a capital F
[11:21] <navarone> holotone...the lock icon means that the drive/folder has inherited the permissions from windows
[11:21] <nbound> =P
[11:21] <dekela> Since then my Gnome just wont load only in failsafe mode
[11:21] <thegladiator> Seveas, i open the keyboard menu , but I cant see stick keys there
[11:21] <jenda> Any experience with EasyTag? I'd like to assign file names according to their tags.
[11:21] <_jason> dekela, did you try logging in as a different user?
[11:21] <thegladiator> shud I enable or disable stick key
[11:21] <jnk> lightbright, you overwrite 35 times with non-zero data if you don't want your data to be retrievable by a laboratory
[11:21] <navarone> !pastebin
[11:21] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:22] <navarone> George^
[11:22] <sethk> lightbright, I can't imagine.  Writing zeroes once is the same as writing zeroes a million times.  There has never been a case of data being recovered from a disk where all the sectors were wiped.
[11:22] <nbound> jnk, not just any non-zero, has to be special combinations
[11:22] <GeorgeAScott> ok
[11:22] <dekela> _jason, I will have to try this out.. But then I loose all my settings
[11:22] <jnk> nbound, yep
[11:22] <sethk> lightbright, now, if you wanted to be totally paranoid, it still makes no sense to write repetatively.  You can write all 1's, then all 0's
[11:22] <_jason> dekela, well that's just for trouble shooting
[11:22] <navarone> GeorgeAScott, when you are done copy the url and paste here so we can visit
[11:22] <sethk> lightbright, but the possibility of recovering the data after writing over it is so small as to be effectively zeroes.
[11:23] <_jason> dekela, you can try renaming the ~/.gnome and ~/.gnome2 directories
[11:23] <Seveas> sethk, absolutely not
[11:23] <sethk> lightbright, I've done this for military projects, so I've studied the issue.
[11:23] <mcdenyer> can someone plz help me updatee to breezy
[11:23] <Seveas> sethk, only after 7 times overwriting with random or alternating bitpatterns that chance is small enough
[11:23] <dekela> _jason, I will try it.. Do you know what gnome failsafe mean? becasue it looks the same as a normal session
[11:23] <sethk> Seveas, believe me, I've taken the media apart and done all the high tech stuff to it.
[11:23] <nbound> sethk, writing a 1 does not = absolute one, in a lab they can tell a wekaer one probly used to be a 0
[11:23] <sethk> Seveas, that's really nonsense.
[11:23] <nbound> weaker*
[11:23] <_jason> dekela, not sure about the specifics
[11:23] <jnk> mcdenyer, won't you just try to update and ask here when something goes wrong?
[11:23] <sethk> nbound, I have seen that theory but I have _never_ seen it in the lab.  never
[11:24] <mcdenyer> jnk i would but i  dont know how to update
[11:24] <holotone> do I have to reboot to reload fstab?
[11:24] <Seveas> sethk, hmm, I've seen that several times, but if you say you did it yourself my words are quite useless :)
[11:24] <nbound> sethk, lol, they can and do use it
[11:24] <GeorgeAScott> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7184
[11:24] <dekela> _jason, Ok.. Thanks a lot I will try your recommendetions
[11:24] <thegladiator> yes holotone
[11:24] <holotone> k, thanks!
[11:24] <sethk> Seveas, with what equipment?  seen in what way?
[11:24] <nbound> sethk, ive never seen my pc run FreeBSD does that mean it cant *rollseyes*
[11:25] <Seveas> sethk, I meant seen it on documentaries and stuff
[11:25] <sethk> nbound, you know quite well that your analogy is meaningless.
[11:25] <sethk> Seveas, well, I've done the actual work.
[11:25] <nbound> sethk, well u say its not true coz uve never seen it
[11:25] <Seveas> sethk, that's why I said 'my words are useless', you actually did the things :)
[11:25] <mcdenyer> can someone give me the link for the 510 upgrade?
[11:25] <navarone> GeorgeAScott, you have no entries in fstab for your windows partitions type !diskmounter and go to the url that ubotu provides. It is a script to add entries to fstab for automounting windows partitions
[11:26] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mcdenyer about upgrade
[11:26] <Nyven> has anyone done a vpn between 2 ubunto servers ?
[11:26] <sethk> nbound, no, your logic is faulty.  I never said that the fact that I've never seen it means that it doesn't happen.  I said that fact that I've looked for it, using the equipment that is supposed to show it, analyzing the scope traces, and have not seen it.
[11:26] <nbound> sethk, fill ur hard driver up with as much illegal crap as possible, then write over it the way u say... and we'll call the feds... lets see who wins
[11:26] <sethk> nbound, that is very very different.
[11:26] <sethk> nbound, they wouldn't bother, believe me.
[11:26] <GeorgeAScott> !diskmounter
[11:26] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[11:27] <sethk> nbound, you think anyone cares that much about my data?
[11:27] <nbound> sethk, i know, but u get the point
[11:27] <GeorgeAScott> thanks navarone
[11:27] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak do i have to use a cd or can i just get it off the net?
[11:27] <nbound> sethk, lets say u had some they did care about... ;)
[11:28] <navarone> George rememebr that ntfs is not supported fully for writing so I would remove any entries to ntfs partitions to avoid the hassle and possible corruption etc
[11:28] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer,  scroll the page you should beable to change hoary with breezy in the sources list
[11:28] <thegladiator> !upgrade
[11:28] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[11:28] <sethk> nbound, try it.  take some old drives, you probably have some.  write zeroes to them.  pull out the media. look at it under a scope, look for quantum traces, anything you like.  You won't find them.
[11:28] <gnomefreak> thegladiator, hes got it :)
[11:28] <thegladiator> he he :)
[11:28] <thegladiator> he knows it all
[11:29] <nbound> sethk, lets agree to disagree =)
[11:29] <j2daosh> hey everybody
[11:29] <j2daosh> how do i delete stored information about a network server?
[11:29] <joruss> anyone use xvkbd in breezy?
[11:29] <sethk> nbound, if you like.  but if you are seriously curious, give it a try.
[11:29] <GeorgeAScott> i just want to be able to access my media
[11:30] <j2daosh> ip's, usernames, and passwords have been changed but when i try to connect it keeps telling me to enter the old information and it wont accpt it
[11:30] <nbound> sethk, i dont have the equipment.... well nothing other than piles of old hard drives
[11:30] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, media like ? cd / hard disk which one ?
[11:30] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak it says i need to change my repositories or something
[11:30] <_jason> joruss, I have tried it, do you have a particular problem?
[11:30] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak how do  i do that?
[11:30] <sethk> nbound, you probably have a university nearby.  there is always someone at a university that can be talked into looking at this stuff.  they love it.
[11:30] <topyli> GeorgeAScott: you can mount ntfs partitions read-only quite safely
[11:31] <j2daosh> and why does my copy keep dieing when transfering a large file?
[11:31] <joruss> _jason, installed it via apt-get & synaptic.. either way I see it in /usr/X11R6/bin but unable to launch it
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell mcdenyer about repositories
[11:31] <nbound> sethk, nearest one is 100+km away =P and i doubt they would have that stuff (its only a regional uni)
[11:31] <GeorgeAScott> media as in music and video files...
[11:32] <gnomefreak> hold that thought ill be right back
[11:32] <navarone> topyli, yes...but he can always comment out or remove entries if it makes him more comfortable..or he has no need for the ntfs partitions to be available
[11:32] <GeorgeAScott> on a seperate drive
[11:32] <_jason> joruss, you can launch it as /usr/X11R6/bin/xvkbd , or you can add /usr/X11R6/bin to your path, or you can create a symlink to that and then place the symlink somewhere in your path
[11:32] <j2daosh> i can copy about a gig and then the dl dies. i wouldn't mind so much if i could resume but i cant so it is constantly taking like an hour for nothing
[11:32] <j2daosh> anyone know a fix for either of those issues?
[11:32] <joruss> tried that..
[11:32] <joruss> didn't work.
[11:32] <Dreamglider> what ports does frostwire use ?
[11:32] <_jason> joruss, which part?
[11:32] <saif> how can i install codes for my mplayer
[11:33] <saif> i try to play movie but its not playing giving me some font error
[11:33] <_jason> saif, install mplayer-fonts
[11:33] <j2daosh> saif, synaptic manager and then search for mplayer codecs
[11:33] <mcdenyer> ubotu tell me how to run ubuntu :)
[11:33] <j2daosh> oh
[11:33] <_jason> ubotu, tell saif about mplayer
[11:33] <j2daosh> well then yeah... do what _jason said
[11:33] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, going by ur post http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7184 ,I dont see any other hard disks !
[11:33] <saif> Ok
[11:33] <redguy> j2daosh: ask better questions: what program are you talking about for example?
[11:34] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, wait...post a fdisk -l result
[11:34] <joruss> _jason, I've created a launcher as /usr/X11R6/bin/xvkbd  when I got to run it it tell ms there's no such file or directory
[11:34] <j2daosh> red... think u got me confuised with someone else... im having a samba issue... not a proggie issue
[11:34] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, goto the terminal , sudo fdisk -l
[11:34] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, and paste bin
[11:34] <alex__> how can i force a screen resolution?
[11:34] <nbound> samba isnt a proggy :S???? =P
[11:34] <_jason> joruss, double check for typos, I jsut did it and it worked
[11:34] <redguy> j2daosh: hrmm, where did you mention samba?
[11:34] <jnk> alex__, maybe by making it the only resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:34] <j2daosh> lol nbound well it is but a major one
[11:35] <redguy> !tell j2daosh about nicktab
[11:35] <joruss> argg.. got it.. fat fingered... damn my sodium intake.
[11:35] <nbound> alex__,  if it wont run that res u need to reconfigure x
[11:35] <j2daosh> redguy, in transfering files back and forth from windows to linux box through network.
[11:35] <luisito> oh sh..!! I didn't know you can drag a window from one workspace to another by dragging the window in the preview!! wow! that's so great!!! :)))
[11:35] <joruss> _jason, thanks for the help,
[11:35] <glick> hey whats the diff between the fstab file and the mtab file?
[11:35] <_jason> joruss, np
[11:35] <alex__> well the max res i can have is 800x600, but in windows i can have 1024x768
[11:35] <joruss> know anything about the fpit drivers?
[11:35] <just1n> can anyone confirm that it is easy to load ubuntu OS on a 2005 laptop, but without removing Windows just yet. I.e. You can switch between the 2 OSes?
[11:35] <joruss> hehe
[11:36] <j2daosh> yeah i know about the autocomplete... works in the terminal too
[11:36] <nbound> alex__, so reconfigure x to allow the higher res... do you want the command?
[11:36] <thegladiator> just1n, yes
[11:36] <alex__> nbound, yes please
[11:36] <redguy> j2daosh: my question is still valid: what program are you talking about? Windows Explorer? smbclient? smb4k?
[11:36] <nbound> !xorg
[11:36] <ubotu> xorg is, like, to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:36] <j2daosh> basically the samba issue is... after about halfway through transfering a large file (5g roughly) is dies
[11:36] <thegladiator> just1n, easy and simple I use that in my dektop though
[11:36] <fusionfox> what was the command to change the apt repositories
[11:36] <thegladiator> !grub
[11:36] <nbound> what ubotu just said =)
[11:36] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:37] <just1n> thanks theglad. I've downloaded the 0.675Gb live CD and am about to install and ttest.
[11:37] <j2daosh> lol the technical specs of samba i am unsure of... i just know i have the most current version installed and it halfway works
[11:37] <redguy> j2daosh: not all filesystems allow files of this size
[11:37] <thegladiator> ubotu was written in python correct?
[11:37] <ubotu> thegladiator: What?
[11:37] <j2daosh> but thats the thing though... i thought maybe that was it... but i had just transfered one not 30 minutes before i started on this one
[11:37] <Seveas> thegladiator, perl
[11:37] <MrRio> thegladiator: erm, some admin tools are, yes
[11:37] <bimberi> thegladiator: perl (i understand)
[11:37] <redguy> thegladiator: I would bet on perl
[11:37] <j2daosh> and that one went through with no issue
[11:37] <GeorgeAScott> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7186
[11:38] <thegladiator> cool
[11:38] <thegladiator> ubotu,  thegladiator about origin
[11:38] <ubotu> thegladiator: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:38] <alex__> nbound, did you find it?
[11:38] <thegladiator> he eh
[11:38] <LoPMX> \
[11:38] <navarone> GeorgeAScott,  type "sudo fdisk -l"
[11:39] <alex__> nbound, 1024x768 is listed in xorg.conf
[11:39] <alex__> nbound, but its not listed in the screen resolution changer program
[11:39] <j2daosh> ok... im just gonna let it try one more time and see if it works now... second problem... how do i delete stored infomation (user, passwords, ip's) for my netowrk settings
[11:39] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott, fdisk -l as navarone said
[11:39] <j2daosh> ie - places, network server
[11:39] <Keyseir> _jason, the beta of KMuddy installed fine for me... with the help of auto-apting some more depends.
[11:39] <fusionfox> how do i change the apt sources FILE people cant anyone take 3 secs and answer me!
[11:39] <Keyseir> _jason, :-)
[11:40] <j2daosh> the ip addy of the network has changed but it doesn't allow me to reconfigure... or set a new one and delete the old one either
[11:40] <bimberi> fusionfox: sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:40] <_jason> Keyseir, hopefully it isn't too buggy :)
[11:40] <nbound> alex__, i already told u the command, watch what ubotu says
[11:40] <thegladiator> !sources.list
[11:40] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:40] <nbound> !xorg
[11:40] <ubotu> I heard xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:40] <Keyseir> _jason, Heh, yeah. If it is I'll ask the kmuddy devs about known qt bugs for the stable... heh
[11:40] <thegladiator> fusionfox, read what ubotu says it could u give u some ingiht
[11:41] <MacSlow> ssam, gnomefreak: btw that's the stuff I'm doing and why made all the fuss about breezy2drapper update -> ttp://macslow.mine.nu/cairo-clock-1.jpg http://macslow.mine.nu/cairo-clock-2.jpg
[11:41] <alex__> nbound, ok sorry... i didn't see it
[11:41] <_jason> Keyseir, when I googled, I found some mentions of your error but I tried all the given advice and nothing work.  So it isn't an isolated problem
[11:41] <GeorgeAScott> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7187
[11:41] <nbound> alex__, no worries =)
[11:41] <kayip> slm
[11:42] <kayip> slmtr
[11:42] <Keyseir> _jason, <nods> I appreciate your looking into it. I'm a bit of a newbie, especially when it comes to dealing with something like bugs that come up when compiling from source.
[11:42] <_jason> Keyseir, can't say I'm too much of an expert, just helpful to have more than one person look at a problem I suppose
[11:42] <Keyseir> _jason, <nods>
[11:42] <alexfava> qualcuno italiano che pu aiutarmi con un problemma sull'hd
[11:42] <Coyctecm> any way to get gnome terminal to open link with single click?
[11:43] <kayip> slm
[11:43] <Seveas> !it
[11:43] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:43] <glick> hey removable storeage like usb drives and external harddisks, shouldnt the pmount program be trying to mount them?
[11:43] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott,do you know abount mounting disks ?
[11:43] <Seveas> glick, yes
[11:43] <navarone> Hmm...George it looks like windows drive is not first drive on cable...ie slave...I am not sure if that will complicate you booting into windows...Are you able to get into windows ok?
[11:43] <egkamp> since my last update my mouse is almost unusable, is this just me? or are other people finding this a problem (running 5.1)?
[11:43] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott,yes it looks like a slave
[11:44] <Keyseir> _jason, Lol, well I just connected to a random mud with the quickconnect option so I guess it isn't TOOO messed up.
[11:44] <glick> Seveas: for some reason on my system the mount program tries to mount them and i get the follwoing pop up error... mount: cant find /dev/sdb5 in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[11:44] <Fordprefect> is there anyway to get totem or kaffeine to play mpg or wmv files
[11:44] <_jason> Keyseir, good
[11:44] <_jason> ubotu, tell Fordprefect about multimedia
[11:44] <MrSunshine> humm, anyone had problem with linux locking with gefoce?
[11:44] <Seveas> glick, that's... odd
[11:44] <hermanr__> Unmounting /home is not trivial on Ubuntu
[11:45] <GeorgeAScott> i don't have windows installed... the other drive is just full of files
[11:45] <navarone> MrSunshine, what model Geforce?
[11:45] <Seveas> hermanr__, not if you are logged in :)
[11:45] <Seveas> (as non-root0
[11:45] <MrSunshine> had a gf2 gts in my computer and my linux locked all the time (X did), changed to a tnt2 and it worked fine, got my geforece4 back and thought great now it will work .. and same problem with it as with the gf2 gts
[11:45] <hermanr__> Without a root account, /home will always be busy, until you change your home directory in /etc/passwd
[11:45] <lightbright> sethk: why are there some wipe programs that wipe 35 times if once is all thats needed?
[11:45] <matthewjames> Ompaul: I am still haveing problems, but i think that i need to give myself permission to acces xserver, is that correct?
[11:45] <navarone> George...then just run diskmounter script and drive should be added
[11:45] <GeorgeAScott> i got tired of windows...
[11:45] <thegladiator> GeorgeAScott,just try mounting them ?
[11:45] <MrSunshine> navarone, both gf2 gts and gf4 ti4200
[11:45] <thegladiator> !diskmount
[11:45] <ubotu> thegladiator: What?
[11:45] <ompaul> matthewjames, no, now first off is hotplug there ?
[11:46] <jenda> What version of GTK does Breezy use?
[11:46] <matthewjames> yes, it started
[11:46] <thegladiator> !ntfs
[11:46] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[11:46] <Seveas> hermanr__, correct :)
[11:46] <navarone> MrSunshine, I am using Asus v8200 (Geforce3) with no probs (knock wood)
[11:46] <lightbright> sethk: ?
[11:46] <hermanr__> Seveas: Well, duh!  If you want to fsck a file system without rebooting, that is kind of quirky...
[11:46] <jenda> !GTK
[11:46] <ubotu> jenda: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[11:46] <purpleheart_USMC> When I turn on my computer, ubuntu goes through the start up process, then goes to a black screen... but in recovery mode, I can type 'startx' and everything is fine...WHY?
[11:46] <lightbright> Seveas: how can I fix this: WARNING: Your ClamAV installation is OUTDATED!
[11:46] <lightbright>  ?
[11:46] <dabaR> jenda: there is gtk and gtk+
[11:46] <MrSunshine> navarone, never had any probs until like a month ago, does the same in both gentoo and ubuntu
[11:46] <Seveas> hermanr__, true, but a user who wants to do that should now how to enable a proper root account
[11:46] <egkamp> lightbright: wiping once is not enough, it is possible to dismantle a disk and read residual information to see what was there before a single wipe
[11:46] <navarone> thegladiator try !diskmounter
[11:46] <ompaul> matthewjames, now lets try this one you have seen it before >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[11:46] <lightbright> egkamp: tell that to sethk
[11:46] <matthewjames> k, brb
[11:46] <Seveas> lightbright, never tried clamav
[11:46] <GeorgeAScott> thanks, i have to go for now.  i will try what you said later
[11:47] <egkamp> opps
[11:47] <thegladiator> yep
[11:47] <gnomefreak> ompaul,he said that didnt work :)
[11:47] <menko> would using the data=writeback on a reiserfs file system break it? I read on that topic that it also works with reiserfs but I'd just like to make sure.
[11:47] <lightbright> egkamp: so I typed: sudo dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hdb1  now have many times do I need to type that?
[11:47] <jenda> dabaR: Is that 1.x or 2.x?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> <<tried that this am
[11:47] <lightbright> Seveas: what do you use besides clamav?
[11:47] <dabaR> !info gtk+
[11:47] <purpleheart_USMC> Anyone know why i get the black screen?
[11:47] <jnk> lightbright, 1 time is like 100 times here
[11:47] <navarone> MrSunshine, is it visual glitches or random lockups?
[11:47] <lightbright> jnk: here?
[11:47] <Seveas> lightbright, I have no windows machines, so no need for a virus scanner
[11:47] <egkamp> lightbright: way back when i was military, our milspec called for wiping 7 times, but i don't know what the current standard is
[11:48] <jenda> lightbright: No need for antiviri on Ubuntu. And long time no see
[11:48] <lightbright> Seveas: yes but cant you send a virus trhrough email to a wondows user?
[11:48] <ompaul> gnomefreak, he has reinstalled - we now have hotplug
[11:48] <gnomefreak> unless your running a win server
[11:48] <jnk> lightbright, well that's not quite right but if you want to secure delete a partition don't just use zeroes, use a program designed for that
[11:48] <MrSunshine> navarone, random lockups of only X
[11:48] <dabaR> jenda: not sure.
[11:48] <lightbright> jenda: hi :)  but cant you send a virus trhrough email to a windows user?
[11:48] <MrSunshine> EVERYTHING except the mouse stops .. sound etc runs fine
[11:48] <lightbright> jnk: why doesnt the zero's work?
[11:48] <navarone> MrSunshine, do you have binary drivers installed?
[11:48] <purpleheart_USMC> Anyone know why i get the black screen?
[11:48] <Seveas> lightbright, no, the viruses don't infect me so I can't replicate them
[11:48] <jenda> lightbright: Yes, I guess you can, but then it's their AV, that should catch the viri.
[11:49] <deepbeige> excuse me, will Ubuntu run on PowerBook that has a Sonnet G3 upgrade card?
[11:49] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok having problems with the reository
[11:49] <deepbeige> *a
[11:49] <MrSunshine> navarone, yes
[11:49] <lightbright> Seveas: so you mean its impossible to send a virus through email from Ubuntu to other ms windows users?
[11:49] <hawking> anyone knows how to setup infrared so that I can send and receive files from my Nokia 6600
[11:49] <MrSunshine> navarone, and no .. with gf2 gts
[11:49] <egkamp> lightbright: all zeros or all ones (or any simple pattern) makes it too easy for disk forenisics to "see" past the wipe
[11:49] <MrSunshine> nvdirver doesnt work for that
[11:49] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer,did you open the sources.list file yet?
[11:49] <redguy> purpleheart_USMC: no
[11:49] <_jason> lightbright, i'm sure if you wanted to and didn't like someone you could...
[11:49] <lightbright> egkamp: how can they see past something that is zero's?
[11:49] <Seveas> lightbright, I don't say that, but it's only possible if you manually send it
[11:49] <purpleheart_USMC> redguy: what should i do?
[11:49] <Seveas> which is just stupid :)
[11:49] <bluefoxicy> Tomorrow the 2.13.5 Gnome tarballs are due.
[11:49] <lightbright> Seveas: ok
[11:49] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak dont even know what that is :)_
[11:50] <navarone> MrSunshine, do you have both cards in same machine?
[11:50] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  ETA on Gnome 2.13.5 in Dapper?
[11:50] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak lol
[11:50] <lightbright> Seveas: isnt there any virus for Linux?
[11:50] <jnk> lightbright, http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
[11:50] <egkamp> lightbright: it is more like a chalkboard, where you can see what the previous class has written if you look close
[11:50] <jared_> where can i get the lib for dvd's?
[11:50] <D1> anyone see a "whats new" page for gnome yet?
[11:50] <thegladiator> lightbright, i am coding one
[11:50] <mkyb14> the ati driver is asking me for an install path in the terminal.  where should i be pointing this too??
[11:50] <thegladiator> :/
[11:50] <egkamp> lightbright: you are "thinking digital", but in reality life is analog
[11:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell jared_ about dvd
[11:50] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  Jan 19 or 20?  (development release should occur on Jan 18, dunno how long the devs will wait to build it for Dapper)
[11:50] <redguy> purpleheart_USMC: look in /var/log/Xorg.0.log for errors
[11:50] <Firztspawn> hmmm, is there a known issue with installing breezy and S3 Virge PCI graphics cards?
[11:50] <MrSunshine> navarone, both cards have been in same machine yes
[11:50] <adriyel> which gdesklet applet does Vidalinux use?
[11:50] <adriyel> it looks like the dock for OS X?
[11:50] <purpleheart_USMC> redguy: ty
[11:50] <redguy> purpleheart_USMC: that si lines starting with EE
[11:50] <bluefoxicy> lightbright:  there are several viruses for linux, just they're ineffective if you don't run them as root.
[11:50] <navarone> MrSunshine, do you have both cards in same machine presently?
[11:50] <jenda> thegladiator: I want a copy!!! :)
[11:51] <MrSunshine> had my gf4 borrowed out so used a gf2 gts for a while .. with random lockups, i was hoping it would be fine when i got my gf4 back but hell i was wrong
[11:51] <lightbright> thegladiator: you aree coding what?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer,the instructions are right on that page it says to type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list and change hoary to breezy than run sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:51] <MrSunshine> navarone, no .. 1 at a time :P
[11:51] <lightbright> bluefoxicy: ok
[11:51] <gerald_> when i run swat, nothing happens
[11:51] <thegladiator> jenda, yes everyone will get ...its free ! :[
[11:51] <kasemodz> alright the problem with my wireless is that for some reason it doesn't want to retrieve the ip address. It can scan the access points just not get an ip. Anybody know how to fix it?
[11:51] <MrSunshine> only got one agp port :>
[11:51] <gnomefreak> i lied it says it in 2 different commands i made one :)
[11:51] <Fordprefect> I read those pages and they told me nothing I didn't already know
[11:51] <bluefoxicy> lightbright:  windows viruses won't affect linux and thus can't use it as a hub to spread; you have to intentionally spread e-mail worms.
[11:51] <kasemodz> I eve changed ifconfig mode manged essid
[11:51] <lightbright> egkamp: how can they see past something that is zero's?
[11:51] <thegladiator> lightbright, read ur question just above :)
[11:51] <navarone> MrSunshine, could you c/p your /etc/X11/xorg.conf contents to pastebin?
[11:51] <kasemodz> and it converts to my essid
[11:51] <lightbright> bluefoxicy: ok
[11:51] <kasemodz> but still no ip
[11:51] <jared_> What can i get it, can i get it from synaptic
[11:51] <lightbright> thegladiator: why are you coding a linux virus?
[11:52] <spesh> Hello, Can anyone offer me some suggestions :)
[11:52] <redguy> gerald_: did you try to connect to it via your browser?
[11:52] <thegladiator> lightbright, research purpose only
[11:52] <spesh> I keep freezing up when I boot from the LiveCD
[11:52] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak do i type all that in terminal?
[11:52] <jenda> thegladiator: will it be included in the default install with Dapper, or at least be in the repos?
[11:52] <MrSunshine> navarone, had my config for over a year and like i said.. problems started about a month ago :>
[11:52] <MrSunshine> and im not in linux atmn:/
[11:52] <houn> Waddup #Ubuntu?
[11:52] <egkamp> lightbright: because it isn't "zero", it is a range of values, and putting "zero" on top of "zero" is in the zero range, but isn't the same as putting "zero" on top of "one"
[11:52] <MrSunshine> got tired of it and went to windows to play some
[11:52] <lightbright> Seveas: egkamp claims that even if I zero'd my hdb1, they can still read the data that was there!  is that true?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> yes mcdenyer
[11:52] <gerald_> how?
[11:52] <thegladiator> jenda, worldwide hopefully default in any system if all works well :)
[11:52] <lightbright> egkamp: so whats the solution?
[11:52] <gerald_> how do I connect swat via web browser?
[11:52] <Seveas> lightbright, in some occasions, but this whole thing is horribly offtopic
[11:53] <jared_> Where can i get libdvdcss at?
[11:53] <redguy> !tell gerald_ about nicktab
[11:53] <egkamp> lightbright: you want to wipe with a random pattern, not all zeros
[11:53] <navarone> MrSunshine, hmmm....I dunno what to say dude...are you certain card is seated properly?
[11:53] <lightbright> Seveas: why is wiping a Ubuntu HD off topic?
[11:53] <Seveas> !tell jared_ about libdvdcss
[11:53] <jnk> lightbright, a bit is encoded as an area full of little magnets on the hard drive, where all magnets say '1' for instance. Next time you put a zero there, the head of the drive won't behave exactly the same so some of the magnets will stay at '1', and other magnets not in the original area will become '0'
[11:53] <kasemodz> anybody know how to retrieve ip address from a wireless point?
[11:53] <gnomefreak> once you wipe it its not ubuntu anymore :)
[11:53] <Seveas> lightbright, because it has very little to do with Ubuntu
[11:53] <lightbright> Seveas: what was that random pattern dd wipe command again you gave me earlier?
[11:53] <redguy> gerald_: SWAT stands for Samba Web Administration Tool
[11:53] <jenda> thegladiator: pan-platform, ai? Cool. Ever heard of running viri through wine?
[11:53] <spesh> My start up keeps freezing when it gets to Starting Hotplug subsystem.  Any suggestions?
[11:53] <Seveas> lightbright, same as what you are using, but with /dev/urandom instead of /dev/zero
[11:54] <lightbright> Seveas: ok thanks! thats all I will ask then
[11:54] <thegladiator> nope :)
[11:54] <kasemodz> anybody free to help me out?
[11:54] <gerald_> nickrud, d
[11:54] <ompaul> !anyone
[11:54] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[11:54] <lightbright> Seveas: sudo dd if=/dev/urandom of=/dev/hdb1
[11:54] <lightbright> Seveas: is that correct?
[11:54] <gerald_> so what do I do/
[11:54] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok now when u say change hoary to breezy what exactly do you mean?
[11:55] <gerald_> re
[11:55] <_jason> lightbright, you should read this http://www.cs.auckland.ac.nz/~pgut001/pubs/secure_del.html
[11:55] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer,the words that say hoary in the repos take hoary out and put breezy in its place
[11:55] <Seveas> lightbright, yes, if you have to ask more, #ubuntu-offtopic, I will not answer in here
[11:55] <thegladiator> just ask ur question , people are interested problems only these days
[11:55] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok
[11:55] <lightbright> Seveas: i finished
[11:55] <lightbright> Seveas: ty
[11:55] <Seveas> thegladiator, nice typo :)
[11:55] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: poke poke
[11:55] <mcdenyer> gnmoefreak wait whats is the repo?
[11:55] <redguy> gerald_: try localhost:901
[11:56] <redguy> gerald_: and read the docs!
[11:56] <egkamp> so my mouse has become almost unusable, it seems it mostly wants to go right and down...I think i noticed this after doing my last update...any ideas?
[11:56] <jenda> Any experience with EasyTag? I'd like to assign file names according to their tags.
[11:56] <thegladiator> he he :)
[11:56] <funkyHat> hehehe
[11:56] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer,did you read the pm ubotu sent you
[11:56] <ssam> MacSlow, so you got it all working :-)
[11:57] <redguy> gerald_: http://www.samba.org/samba/docs/man/Samba-HOWTO-Collection/SWAT.html for example
[11:57] <lightbright> _jason: yes great website, but it doesnt give a solution for Ubuntu
[11:57] <jnk> jenda, maybe try tagtool I think it's easier to use
[11:57] <MacSlow> ssam, yeah finally... now I can focus on coding that thing again... at last :)
[11:57] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak yes
[11:57] <_jason> lightbright, well you already know how to overwrite, you just aren't sure if that is secure enough.  i think that paper will give you a lot of info :)
[11:58] <egkamp> jenda: tagtool is easier
[11:58] <jenda> jnk: righto
[11:58] <lightbright> _jason: hehe ok :P
[11:59] <matthewjames> Ompaul: it still dont man, lol
[11:59] <ompaul> matthewjames, read this and register I want the bot to send you a message
[11:59] <ompaul> !register
[11:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[11:59] <matthewjames> how register
[11:59] <MacSlow> hm... the redraw of the left gtknotebook in devhelp is broken under dapper
[12:00] <k0nd0r> good bye friends