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[05:15] <Yagisan> mhz !
[05:16] <mhz_cooking> Yagisan: Maese Yagi san, how are you?
[05:17] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: tired
[05:17] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: something to show you before I fall alseep
[05:18] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8081/eyagi
[05:18] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: almost finished now
[05:19] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: today is fun (not), put that in as the main site, and still keep access to my repos
[05:22] <mhz_cooking> Yagisan: nice
[05:22] <mhz_cooking> plone is good
[05:22] <mhz_cooking> does it use CSS for theming?
[05:23] <mhz_cooking> if so, please use a more personalized one :D
[05:23] <mhz_cooking> at least for colors
[05:23] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: it was the translation features that won me over. Yes, it does use CSS - I've been putting my colours in
[05:23] <mhz_cooking> ohhh
[05:23] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: need to finish it later
[05:23] <mhz_cooking> i noticed you can choose, good.
[05:24] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: old site http://eyagi.bpa.nu/~jamie/
[05:24] <mhz_cooking> Yagisan: i am proud you got it
[05:24] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: It was a lot of head beating - but I so needed a decent translation system
[05:24] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: hint hint spanish
[05:24] <mhz_cooking> indeed
[05:25] <mhz_cooking> hehehehe
[05:25] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: the japanese flag actually works :)
[05:26] <mhz_cooking> oh yes, 
[05:26] <mhz_cooking> Yagisan: congrats!
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[05:27] <Yagisan> mhz_cooking: no worries - I'll be in bed soon, but I'll probably catch you later today
[05:39] <lucasvo> I have a strange problem with nfs/tftp
[05:41] <lucasvo> when I start an LTSP client, after there wasn't started up a client for about 12h, I get the error: can't access job controlfile ...
[05:41] <lucasvo> and I have to reboot, the second time, it works
[05:42] <lucasvo> I would like to mirror  6.04 i386 locally, how can I do that?
[05:43] <lucasvo> I mean apt-server
[05:43] <juliux> lucasvo, debmirror
[05:43] <juliux> lucasvo, search at wiki.ubuntuusers.de for debmirror
[05:44] <Yagisan> lucasvo: I use apt-cacher myselft. debmirror needs a > 300Mhz machine
[05:51] <lucasvo> Yagisan: why?
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[05:52] <lucasvo> I would like to share it over a webserver
[05:53] <lucasvo> just add a vhosyt ?
[05:53] <Yagisan> lucasvo: I put debmirror on a p2 300, and it slowed down. debmirror was unzipping every .deb to check them
[05:53] <lucasvo> Yagisan: I don't use the machine anyway
[05:54] <Yagisan> lucasvo: well, it went for 15-20 mins for an update to 3hrs
[05:55] <Yagisan> lucasvo: apt-cacher is faster, but needed every single system to have the sources.list adjusted to use it
[05:55] <Yagisan> lucasvo: debmirror is set-and-forget (on a faster box)
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[05:57] <lucasvo> yeah, in that case it seems to be the best
[05:57] <Yagisan> lucasvo: if I had a faster box - and I did it again, debmirror
[05:57] <Yagisan> anyway - good night all
[06:00] <lucasvo> Yagisan: good night
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[08:15] <risc-> Hi
[08:16] <risc-> anyone knows how to install mplayer/xine/other dvd player (gnome) on edubuntu?
[08:18] <ogra> the same way as in ubuntu
[08:18] <ogra> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[08:23] <risc-> thanks
[08:23] <risc-> and are all modules compiled for the edubuntu kernel?
[08:23] <risc-> cause i have a broadcom pcmcia card
[08:24] <risc-> and it gets detected by lspci, but doesn't seem to be configured (eth1?)
[08:24] <ogra> below the desktop, edubuntu, kubuntu and ubuntu ate 100% identical
[08:24] <ogra> s/ate/are
[08:25] <ogra> so all modules you find in ubuntu are in edubuntu as well 
[08:25] <ogra> if nothing works, you can modt likely resort to the included ndiswrapper 
[08:25] <ogra> s/modt/mosT/
[08:26] <risc-> ah nice thanks
[08:26] <risc-> he ? what? ndiswrapper?
[08:26] <risc-> btw first time i use *ubuntu
[08:26] <risc-> installed it for a 10 year old
[08:26] <risc-> :)
[08:26] <ogra> for the base system all the ubuntu documentation applies ...
[08:27] <risc-> ic, k
[08:27] <risc-> i'll check that
[08:27] <risc-> thanks
[08:27] <ogra> if something is missing, feel free to come back ;)
[08:27] <ogra> did you read the EdubuntuInstallNotes page ? 
[08:28] <risc-> not yet
[08:28] <risc-> just installed it
[08:28] <risc-> and messed arround a bit
[08:28] <risc-> i'm not used to this kind of linux
[08:28] <risc-> like the user management
[08:28] <risc-> scared me in the begin
[08:28] <risc-> :)
[08:28] <risc-> but I guess it's user friendly
[08:28] <ogra> its not complicated ...
[08:28] <risc-> nopz
[08:28] <risc-> it's made simple
[08:28] <risc-> very good project
[08:29] <ogra> you have groups for everything in the system ...
[08:29] <risc-> ah haven't seen that yet
[08:29] <risc-> going to experiment some more later
[08:29] <risc-> I'm used to slackware, freebsd & gentoo
[08:29] <risc-> so it's something else :)
[08:29] <ogra> if you want somebody to be able to work with a certain device for example, just make sure he is in the group that allows access to it
[08:29] <risc-> k
[08:30] <risc-> but it's most likely going to be a single user system
[08:30] <ogra> the default gui tool to manage users brings already some profiles
[08:30] <risc-> to keep a 10yrs old virus &
[08:30] <risc-> spyware-free
[08:30] <ogra> :)
[08:30] <risc-> i'll check the docs
[08:30] <risc-> thanks for the help :)
[08:30] <ogra> check the InstallNotes page first 
[08:30] <risc-> k
[08:30] <risc-> will do
[08:31] <ogra> i guess you might like rather a workstation install ...
[08:31] <ogra> the defult install is a classroom server ;)
[08:31] <risc-> ?
[08:31] <risc-> (oh and is it possible to add languages for complete translation (french))
[08:32] <risc-> default is classroom server?
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[08:33] <risc-> ah lol
[08:33] <risc-> i'll reinstall it :)
[08:34] <ogra> yes, use the language selector
[08:34] <risc-> what does LTSP stand for
[08:34] <risc-> ogra: yeah tried that, but french isn't available
[08:35] <ogra> erm, sure is french available ... we support 90 languages
[08:35] <ogra> ltsp is the Linux termional Server Project
[08:35] <ogra> *terminal
[08:35] <risc-> i tried, language selector
[08:35] <risc-> in gnome
[08:35] <ogra> you can use diskless clients on a server 
[08:35] <risc-> and there were several english things
[08:36] <risc-> and belgian (as i selected in the install)
[08:36] <risc-> ah nice
[08:36] <ogra> you have to check the two checkboxes for french
[08:36] <ogra> then it will install the language packas
[08:36] <risc-> checkboxes?
[08:36] <ogra> in the language selector
[08:36] <risc-> hold i'll check
[08:37] <ogra> in your system menu ...
[08:37] <risc-> there is only English
[08:37] <risc-> in the language selector
[08:37] <ogra> there is a huge list of 90 entries ...
[08:38] <risc-> i have only one language
[08:38] <risc-> English
[08:38] <risc-> and in the list i got belgian
[08:38] <ogra> with a checkbox for translations and one for input methods
[08:38] <ogra> for each language
[08:38] <risc-> one language here
[08:38] <risc-> sorry man
[08:38] <ogra> and you selected the right app ? 
[08:38] <risc-> yeah
[08:38] <ogra> not the one from the desktop settings
[08:38] <risc-> language selector
[08:38] <risc-> English X X
[08:39] <risc-> where X is a checkbox
[08:39] <risc-> and there is a menu on the right corner
[08:39] <risc-> bottom-right
[08:39] <risc-> other differences between server & workstation except for the server thingie
[08:39] <risc-> N
[08:39] <risc-> ?
[08:39] <ogra> yes, a pulldown 
[08:40] <risc-> and is it possible to also have the "Applications..." on top bar translated in for example french?
[08:40] <ogra> the policy for the workstation version is highest security level with no open ports ... the server version has some additional server apps that have ports open 
[08:40] <ogra> for home usage i'd always suggest the workstation 
[08:41] <ogra> yes, sure
[08:41] <ogra>  normally the language selector cares for that 
[08:41] <ogra> :/
[08:41] <risc-> it only has "english"
[08:41] <risc-> probably that's the reason
[08:41] <risc-> but I'll reinstall
[08:41] <ogra> try to install the french language pack with synaptic and then try again with the selector
[08:41] <risc-> nah, need to get rid of the server anyway
[08:42] <ogra> yup
[08:43] <risc-> btw why is DVD, mp3 etc locked?
[08:51] <lucasvo> my eth interface doesn't seem to get recognized with dapper :PP
[08:52] <ogra> risc-, ask the patent holders that forbid distribution
[08:52] <ogra> lucasvo, thats normal ...
=== ..[topic/#edubuntu:ogra] : The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: 11 Jan at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes| edubuntu flight3 released !
[08:53] <risc-> flight3?
[08:53] <lucasvo> ogra: in the ibok g3?
[08:54] <lucasvo> gaim is broken in dapper
[08:54] <ogra> risc-, the third development release of the upcoming 6.04 release
[08:54] <risc-> dapper?
[08:54] <risc-> where can you get those?
[08:55] <ogra> dapper is the internal name for the dev release 
[08:55] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/
[08:55] <ogra> i'll send out a release announcement tonight or tomorrow morning
[08:58] <lucasvo> ogra: hm, I have just being downloading flight 2 :(
[08:58] <lucasvo> ogra: can you give me the url?
[08:58] <ogra> i just gave it
[08:58] <ogra> and i told you that flight 3 is near last friday already ;)
[08:59] <lucasvo> hm, I don't see
[08:59] <lucasvo> it
[09:01] <lucasvo> anybody know a good oss sysmonitor ?
[09:01] <ogra> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/releases/dapper/
[09:02] <lucasvo> tthanks
[09:02] <lucasvo> I have horirible lag
[09:02] <lucasvo> debmirror running
[09:02] <lucasvo> no QoS
[09:03] <lucasvo> it is even blockin gmy ssh
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[10:32] <dinger> greets
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[10:58] <tatyana> Hi, I accidently removed the bottom bar in my edubuntu, how can get i get it back?
[10:58] <ogra> right click the top panel
[10:58] <ogra> there is an option
[10:58] <tatyana> it's not a panel
[10:58] <tatyana> it's the taskbar thingie 
[10:59] <ogra> then just add the taskbar back :)
[10:59] <ogra> as well with a right click 
[10:59] <tatyana> how? :s :p
[11:00] <ogra> use the "add to panel" option
[11:00] <tatyana> ah
[11:00] <ogra> there is a "windowlist" item
[11:01] <tatyana> ah k thx
[11:02] <tatyana> thx :)
[11:11] <risc-> ok ogra, works nice :)
[11:11] <ogra> ;)
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[11:17] <tatyana> ogra, can you give me back the link with the dvdplayer thingie (wiki)?
[11:18] <tatyana> and you can make the top bar of gnome transparant, can you also make the menu that comes from it (like applications) transparant? 
[11:18] <tatyana> and than i'm going to stop asking before i irritate you :)
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[11:19] <tatyana> k :s
[11:19] <tatyana> accidentely closed
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[11:28] <ogra> http://wiki.edubuntu.org/RestrictedFormats
[11:28] <ogra> this one ? 
[11:29] <mhz> yah, that is the best page regarding that issue
[11:36] <tatyana> yup
[11:51] <tatyana> mhm
[11:51] <tatyana> if my pcmcia wifi card doesnt work, means its incompatible with the kernel or the module doesnt autoload?
[11:51] <tatyana> 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03)
[11:51] <tatyana> lspci output..