| glick | hi is anyone here? | 12:06 |
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| Hobbsee | Riddell: do we know how far away we are from flight 3? | 12:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: any objections when I'm trying to add libvisual and libvisual_plugins to amarok (actually trying to fix the issues with libvisual_plugins?) | 12:27 |
| \sh | Riddell: (doing this after flight-3 release) | 12:28 |
| \sh | ok..going back to do some work.. | 12:34 |
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| Hobbsee | ok, off to go file a bug... | 02:00 |
| jjesse | Hobbsee: i heard that we were expecting flight3 this comming week? | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | right | 02:17 |
| Hobbsee | that's what i thought too - was looking for a little more info than that, if it was available | 02:18 |
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| freeflying | http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7195 | 04:32 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/kdelibs/+bug/28659 | 04:48 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: ping | 12:34 |
| freeflying | Riddell: have a look at his plz | 12:34 |
| freeflying | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28659 | 12:34 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: what caused that? | 12:44 |
| viviersf | Riddell, you here ? | 12:46 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hi | 12:46 |
| viviersf | how you ? | 12:49 |
| Riddell | groovy | 12:50 |
| viviersf | kewl | 12:50 |
| viviersf | wont you do me a favour | 12:50 |
| viviersf | and make that | 12:50 |
| viviersf | kdm requires | 12:50 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: I don't know , yhis happened after fresh install | 12:50 |
| viviersf | either kubuntu-default-settings | 12:50 |
| viviersf | or | 12:50 |
| viviersf | impi-default-settings | 12:50 |
| viviersf | to be installed ? | 12:50 |
| Riddell | viviersf: in dapper I've changed kdm and kubuntu-default-settings so kdm doesn't need kubuntu-default-settings | 12:51 |
| Riddell | there is a postinall script in kubuntu-default-settings to just set the kdm theme | 12:51 |
| freeflying | Riddell: It's seem all right by the way of upgrade from breey | 12:51 |
| Riddell | viviersf: for the breezy 3.5 packages I could certainly make it that kdm depends on kubuntu-default-settings | impi-default-settings though | 12:52 |
| Riddell | however... kubuntu.org has moved to a new machine and I don't have an account on it yet | 12:52 |
| freeflying | Riddell: But after flight-1 , this will happen after fresh install with daily install cd | 12:52 |
| viviersf | okay Riddell | 12:52 |
| Riddell | viviersf: so what do you think best that I should do? | 12:53 |
| viviersf | hmmm | 12:53 |
| viviersf | i dunno | 12:53 |
| viviersf | but i think you should keep the old thing | 12:53 |
| viviersf | so it uses your settings | 12:54 |
| viviersf | or mine | 12:54 |
| viviersf | else people install kde | 12:54 |
| viviersf | and say kde + impi/kubuntu is ugly | 12:54 |
| viviersf | and is rubbish | 12:54 |
| viviersf | cos they didnt install that packages | 12:54 |
| Riddell | so I'll recompile the breezy 3.5 package with kubuntu-default-settings | impi-default-settings now, but I don't know when I'll be able to put it on kubuntu.org | 12:55 |
| Riddell | freeflying: which program causes that? | 12:57 |
| freeflying | Riddell: I can not log into kde after all | 12:58 |
| Riddell | freeflying: I don't have a problem like that so I wonder if it's something about your settings | 01:00 |
| JRe | allee: did it work for you to launch a SWT java application ? | 01:00 |
| Riddell | freeflying: tried it with moving your .kde directory out of the way? | 01:01 |
| freeflying | Riddell: sure , I've created a user when I install the system | 01:02 |
| freeflying | s/user/new user | 01:02 |
| Riddell | wonder if it's caused by installing in Chinese then | 01:02 |
| Riddell | viviersf: you could do that impi-default-settings Provides kubuntu-default-settings | 01:03 |
| Riddell | that should solve it easily | 01:03 |
| freeflying | Riddell: But it's will be all right by upgrading from breey | 01:04 |
| Hobbsee | freeflying: what was your problem? sorry i've come in late... | 01:05 |
| allee | JRe: I only have a commercial backup tool written in java. Did not work with gnu java. Need to try sun java | 01:06 |
| freeflying | Hobbsee: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/28659 | 01:06 |
| Hobbsee | ah ok | 01:07 |
| JRe | allee: ok :) | 01:07 |
| Tonio_ | hi all | 01:10 |
| Tonio_ | allee: did you get any response concerning wlassistant ? | 01:12 |
| allee | Tonio_: quite some activity. Unfortunately I have trouble with my AP. | 01:16 |
| Tonio_ | allee: AP ? | 01:17 |
| allee | Tonio_: Access Point | 01:17 |
| Tonio_ | ah ok :) | 01:17 |
| allee | Tonio_: you can have a look at svn://svn.debian.org/svn/pkg-kde/kde-extras/wlassistant/trunk/debian/ | 01:18 |
| viviersf | Riddell, i was thinking | 01:18 |
| viviersf | just leave requirement for -default-settings out | 01:18 |
| viviersf | then it will all be fine | 01:19 |
| allee | Tonio_: I have to fix a license issue (upstream fixed in on my request in cvs). | 01:19 |
| Tonio_ | allee: I'll have a look ;) I hope the dhclient bug will be resolved | 01:20 |
| allee | Tonio_: then from pkging side everything is okay. ah, no, rosettafication is also missing | 01:20 |
| allee | Tonio_: Stan commited a backport of a bug, have not looked what it is for | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | very nice ;) and does the svn build have the same dhclient issue ? | 01:21 |
| allee | Tonio_: I wanted to look yesterday into it, but AP refused to work. So I've no idea. | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | grmpf.... dependancie issue in dapper........ | 01:21 |
| Tonio_ | allee: can you send me the source package maybe ? | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | I'll recompile it for breezy and make tests.... | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | gpsim-dev: Depends: gpsim (= 0.20.14-7.2) but it is not going to be installed | 01:22 |
| Tonio_ | hum......... need to report that to ubuntu-devel... | 01:22 |
| allee | Tonio_: wait ... | 01:22 |
| allee | Tonio_: uh, build fine with pkg state last of friday this weekend | 01:23 |
| Tonio_ | k | 01:24 |
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| freeflying | flight-3 is out ? | 01:38 |
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| Riddell | freeflying: almost | 01:58 |
| Riddell | viviersf: does settings a Provides on impi-default-settings work? | 01:58 |
| viviersf | Riddell, | 02:00 |
| viviersf | i dont know what you saying | 02:00 |
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| Riddell | viviersf: Provides: is a field you can set on a package in debian/control | 02:01 |
| Riddell | look at emacs21 for example, it has loads of Provides | 02:01 |
| Riddell | on impi-default-settings you should be able to do Provides: kubuntu-default-settings | 02:02 |
| Riddell | and kdm will be happy | 02:02 |
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| freeflying | Riddell: Dose flight-3 i386 install cd use the 2006-01-13's ? | 02:05 |
| Riddell | freeflying: yes | 02:09 |
| viviersf | ya Riddell | 02:09 |
| viviersf | but what im saying is | 02:09 |
| viviersf | leave kdm as it is on kde 3.5 currently | 02:09 |
| viviersf | not needing a default-settings :) | 02:09 |
| \sh | we should change the theme for kdm :) it's boring now :) | 02:10 |
| viviersf | tdm | 02:10 |
| viviersf | The desktop manager | 02:10 |
| Riddell | kdm on kde 3.5 in dapper doesn't depend on kubuntu-default-settings but it does for kdm in KDE 3.5 packages for breezy | 02:10 |
| Hobbsee | \sh: yes, please do! | 02:19 |
| jjesse | i love it when people respond to messages that are hours apart :) | 02:20 |
| Tm_T | me too | 02:20 |
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| jjesse | grin not specifically talking about you Hobbsee | 02:22 |
| Hobbsee | ah right | 02:23 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, no Riddell | 02:23 |
| viviersf | i got kde 3.5 on breezy | 02:23 |
| Riddell | \sh: I think canonical are getting artwork done professionally for dapper | 02:23 |
| viviersf | and it doesnt need default settings | 02:24 |
| \sh | Riddell: cool :) | 02:24 |
| Riddell | viviersf: hmm, so it doesn't. so problem solved? | 02:24 |
| viviersf | yar | 02:25 |
| viviersf | ;p | 02:25 |
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| Riddell | it's cool how viviersf has a south african accent even on IRC | 02:26 |
| viviersf | lol | 02:26 |
| Riddell | Mez: amarok 1.3.8 is dapper, fancy backporting? | 02:26 |
| viviersf | howz that ? | 02:26 |
| viviersf | Riddell, ill even speak in a language that you dont understand if you want :) | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | viviersf: hehe...now that could mean fun communication, with the aid of babelfish | 02:29 |
| Riddell | ooh, 18th century Dutch :) | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | ooh! fun! | 02:29 |
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| Riddell | night o | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ping me tomorrow about possible flight 3 cd testing | 02:30 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: | 02:30 |
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| Riddell | 13:26 < Riddell> Mez: amarok 1.3.8 is dapper, fancy backporting? | 02:30 |
| teprrr | hmm, it's not possible to get zeroconf for kde atm? | 02:30 |
| Riddell | teprrr: in dapper yes | 02:30 |
| teprrr | KDE has been built without Zeroconf support. -- that's what it says after I installed kdnssd :P | 02:30 |
| Riddell | kdnssd is the pacakge | 02:31 |
| Riddell | hmm | 02:31 |
| Riddell | teprrr: in dapper? | 02:31 |
| teprrr | Riddell, in dapper, yes | 02:32 |
| teprrr | hmm, may be an old kdelibs/kdebase which causes this? | 02:32 |
| Riddell | possibly, do a dist-upgrade? | 02:32 |
| Riddell | I get "The Zeroconf daemon (mdnsd) is not running." | 02:33 |
| Riddell | which means avahi-daemon isn't running | 02:33 |
| teprrr | hmm, is X broken atm? I've been waiting for some time as someone noted there's a big breakage going on.. or is it after flight3 release? | 02:34 |
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| Riddell | teprrr: flight 3 is about to be released and X is fine in it so you should be safe | 02:39 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: as you said , if I change LC_LANG to en_US , everything is ok | 02:40 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: hmm, that's quite nasty | 02:41 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: it's sounding like we may have to remove this immodule patch | 02:41 |
| teprrr | Riddell, okay. thanks.. | 02:42 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: but this problem has happen to me before this patch been put into | 02:42 |
| teprrr | btw, what are the differences between sanekonsole and plain unpatched konsolepart? | 02:42 |
| Riddell | teprrr: konsole part didn't do everything needed for adept in KDE 3.4 | 02:43 |
| teprrr | Riddell, ok | 02:45 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: little question concerning the kdepot patch.... | 02:50 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: I'm trying to package ktechlab, and while it builds correctly without the patch, I have to add an autoconf dep if I apply the patch.... | 02:51 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: the configure script is deleted... | 02:52 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: is that normal is some packages (depending the "admin" folder version or something ?) | 02:52 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: hmm, I don't think it's normal | 02:55 |
| Riddell | but autoconf will try and rerun itself if it sees that some files have a new timestamp | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: that's what happens in fact... | 02:56 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: what I son't understand is why it is the first time I can see this ;) | 02:56 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: It's seems a bug of locales | 02:57 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: in makefine.in there is a directive to remove "configure", and I assume the patch changes the timestamp of some of the tested files | 02:57 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: that's possible too, they have been chaging a lot. but very strange | 02:58 |
| Riddell | Tonio_: it should only touch admin/cvs.sh | 02:59 |
| Tonio_ | Riddell: it does ;), that's why I don't understand ;) | 02:59 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: yeah, I just read the changelog of locales , and found there are many changes | 02:59 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: a problems in gnome? | 03:00 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: no probelm | 03:00 |
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| Mez | Riddell: apparently I'm to give you this message | 03:08 |
| Mez | *kayla glare* | 03:08 |
| Mez | and that you're evil :D | 03:09 |
| Mez | lol | 03:09 |
| Mez | but yes -not really on topic :D | 03:10 |
| teprrr | hmm, Riddell, got avahi-daemon now running, though zeroconf kioslave doesn't work | 03:22 |
| teprrr | hmm, looks like I need a package that supports avahi.. | 03:25 |
| Lathiat | teprrr: what avahi packages do you have installed? | 03:25 |
| teprrr | Lathiat, ahavi-daemon and it's dependencies | 03:26 |
| Lathiat | teprrr: kdnssd-avahi ? | 03:26 |
| teprrr | Lathiat, well, yup, just got it from outside of the repos | 03:27 |
| teprrr | libkdnssd-avahi actually | 03:27 |
| Lathiat | close enough | 03:27 |
| teprrr | yup, now the zeroconf doesn't show error.. but should it show anything? | 03:28 |
| teprrr | ah, avahi-discover doesn't found anything, so maybe that's how it should be | 03:29 |
| Lathiat | does avahi-discover show anyting? | 03:29 |
| teprrr | nope, just my own computer | 03:29 |
| Lathiat | then zeroconf:/ wont show anything | 03:30 |
| Lathiat | need to advertise a http or ssh service or something | 03:30 |
| teprrr | hm, how easy is that? | 03:32 |
| teprrr | oh, kpf can advertise itself, cool :) | 03:33 |
| teprrr | but I saw something like a possibility to reach ssh servers too, how hard is that? | 03:34 |
| Riddell | I don't think there's any automatic way to adverise them, you have to do it by hand | 03:34 |
| teprrr | okay | 03:35 |
| Riddell | avahi-cli or something contains the command line programs to do that | 03:35 |
| teprrr | yup | 03:36 |
| Lathiat | avahi-utils | 03:39 |
| Lathiat | Riddell, teprrr: you can also use services files | 03:39 |
| Lathiat | in /etc/avahi/services | 03:39 |
| Lathiat | /usr/share/doc/avahi-daemon has an example ssh ervice file | 03:39 |
| teprrr | yes, avahi-utils.. seems to work | 03:39 |
| Lathiat | avahi-publish test _http._tcp | 03:40 |
| Lathiat | avahi-publish-service test _http._tcp 80 | 03:40 |
| teprrr | yup, tested with ssh server.. just thinking about having those included in konsole's new session menu as someone wished. but I think it'd need a better coverage to be useful | 03:42 |
| Riddell | why konsole? | 03:42 |
| Riddell | it should be run when the ssh server starts | 03:43 |
| teprrr | Riddell, someone wished for osx like menu, which would show the servers there | 03:43 |
| Riddell | not seen that | 03:44 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-cjk-testers | 03:44 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: nice idea | 03:46 |
| teprrr | http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=95349 | 03:51 |
| Riddell | teprrr: seems like a good idea but we still need some way to automatically advertis the ssh services | 03:59 |
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| nlindblad | hi | 04:06 |
| teprrr | Riddell, yup, that's the problem indeed :p | 04:06 |
| Riddell | can't be that hard to add it to the ssh init script though | 04:06 |
| nlindblad | on the mirrors, are the torrent-file using the same tracker no matter what mirror I download it from? | 04:07 |
| Riddell | yes I think so | 04:09 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: ^^ | 04:09 |
| nlindblad | okey, good to know *continues seeding* | 04:09 |
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| allee | Tonio_: did you try wlassistant? Your opinion: If your problem is not fixed, should we try to uplaod nevertheless and try to fix it in next weeks? Or better ignore pkg until dapper++ | 06:13 |
| Tonio_ | hum allee I wil do probably toonight or maye tomorow | 06:16 |
| Tonio_ | no time for this actually ;) | 06:16 |
| allee | Tonio_: okay. I prepare a deb later and upload to REVU. What to do with can always be decided until 19th | 06:17 |
| Tonio_ | okay | 06:23 |
| Tonio_ | can you send me your source package by email ? | 06:23 |
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| allee | Tonio_: okay. Right now I'm working on digikam. Will do wlassistant later | 07:24 |
| Tonio_ | allee: okay ;) | 07:30 |
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| allee | Riddell: is relibtoolization and rosettafication required? (preparing digikam 0.8.1 final deb) | 09:12 |
| Riddell | allee: it's not required | 09:12 |
| Riddell | rosettafication is nice though | 09:13 |
| Riddell | just do whatever it takes to keep libtool happy | 09:13 |
| allee | Riddell: okay. kdevn libtool is happy ;) | 09:13 |
| allee | Riddell: fyi: http://kubuntu.org/~jr/kubuntu_01_kdepot.diff does not exits (from KubuntuPackagingGuilde) | 09:47 |
| Riddell | yeah, kubuntu.org moved :( | 09:58 |
| Riddell | means I can't update the websi for flight 3 | 09:58 |
| jjesse | bummer | 10:01 |
| allee | Riddell: is: clean:: rm -rf po/ still true or outdated? digikam has 6 MB there. The diff size would explode | 10:03 |
| jjesse | Riddell: do you have a second to join #ubuntu-doc to talk to mkde on the makefile for kubuntu docs? | 10:04 |
| Riddell | allee: rm -f po/*pot | 10:18 |
| allee | Riddell: okay. so packaging guide need an update | 10:18 |
| allee | Riddell: kdepot.diff is still required? (digikam.pot, it looks like it's updated even without it, checking...) | 10:19 |
| Riddell | yes and yes | 10:20 |
| Riddell | allee: it's updated but it won't find /usr/include/kde3/kde.pot which removes otof common strings from being duplicated | 10:20 |
| allee | 'k so with kubuntus cdbs and kdepot.diff rosettafication is done | 10:21 |
| allee | Riddell: okay pot now 96k. I'll rebuild ... | 10:21 |
| Riddell | groovy | 10:23 |
| allee | Riddell: uh, still 96k with kdepot.diff | 10:34 |
| allee | Riddell: I'm also a bit confused why the patch is needed at all, because: | 10:34 |
| allee | $ unset kdepotpath; includedir=""; kdepotpath=${includedir:-`kde-config --expandvars --install include`}/kde.pot; echo $kdepotpath; ls -l $kdepotpath | 10:35 |
| allee | /usr/include/kde/kde.pot | 10:35 |
| allee | $ unset kdepotpath; includedir="/foo"; kdepotpath=${includedir:-`kde-config --expandvars --install include`}/kde.pot; echo $kdepotpath; ls -l $kdepotpath | 10:35 |
| allee | /foo/kde.pot | 10:35 |
| allee | ls: /foo/kde.pot: No such file or directory | 10:35 |
| allee | Riddell: so when one set includedir="" because calling extract msg everything should be fine (or, as I assume, I miss something) | 10:36 |
| allee | s/because/before/ | 10:36 |
| Riddell | allee: $kdepotpath should be set to /usr/include/kde/kde.pot | 10:39 |
| Riddell | ah, it is | 10:39 |
| Riddell | well it wasn't being set for the KDE 3.5 packages | 10:39 |
| Riddell | but it depends on the admin directory how it's set | 10:40 |
| allee | Riddell: yes, and in the first example with includedir="" kdeconfig set it to /usr/include/kde/kde.pot correctly. so assume that's the reason why the pot are not difference with and without the patch. | 10:47 |
| Riddell | I agree, you don't need it :) | 10:47 |
| allee | Riddell: fwiw: digikam tarball was just build with 3.5 admin branch | 10:47 |
| Riddell | allee: make sure it works in a pbuilder too | 10:48 |
| allee | Riddell: so should I keep the kdepot path or document in changelog that it's not needed? (making merging easier) | 10:48 |
| Riddell | I seem to remember only noticing the issue with uploading it | 10:48 |
| Riddell | don't keep it if it's not needed | 10:48 |
| allee | ok. updating pbuilder tarball ... | 10:49 |
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| allee | Riddell: digikam 0.8.1 with -S -sa at http://www.mpe.mpg.de/~ach/tmp/src-only/ Can you have a look (without uploading yet, because if someone find a real showstopper the tarball may change until officially announced on Wednesday) | 11:49 |
| allee | but would be good to know that everything else is correct | 11:50 |
| allee | toma: ^^^ | 11:52 |
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