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susoalgueinb que able espaol ?12:03
juifif anyone feels up to the task :)12:03
arrinmurren1gma: well, actually the name of the person making knoppix is Klaus Knopper (if i remember it correct), but anyway ;)12:04
susobye chanel goodnight12:04
en1gmaoo12:04
en1gmaomg i just put the daper flight 2 cd in while i was in windoze and it actually autoruns12:05
en1gmahmmm intresting12:05
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en1gmabbiam gots to eat12:06
juifseems no one wants to help me with this JACK crap :) i looked around on the web and it seems like one complicated bitch to get running, with permissions and real time access and all that12:07
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glickhey does anyone here have a firewire or usb externel drive?12:14
`NomadI used one a short while ago..12:18
`Nomadbut it' gone now12:18
`NomadIs there anyone that uses kxdocker here?  I feel totally stupid, I can't seem to understand how to add apps on it..12:19
glickanyone been having problems mounting removable media?12:20
glicklike external disks and such?12:20
slow-motionn812:22
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glicki get this error when i plug in my firewire drive12:24
glickAn error occurred while loading media:/sdb4:12:24
glickThe file or folder media:/sdb4 does not exist.12:24
`NomadWish I could help, mine went remarkably smoothly when I used it12:25
`Nomadi sthere really a : after the word media?12:26
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e_machinistIs there an easy to use Firewall that anyone recommends?12:27
BlippeAwaye_machinist, firestarter12:29
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e_machinistfirestarter is gtk though.. haha.12:33
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi fellows, i just resolved my problems with grub12:38
Tallia1Kubuntui had hard time but kubuntu live saved me in the end..12:38
Tallia1Kubuntueven though i think knoppix is better.. for live puorposes... :=12:38
Tallia1Kubuntu:)12:38
Tallia1Kubuntucan i ask you a thing? i want to move my linux to another (bigger) partition..12:39
Tallia1Kubuntuany advice?12:39
isodudedd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb1 ?12:40
Tallia1Kubuntu?? what is that?12:40
Tallia1Kubuntudd?12:41
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isodudeit writes data from if to of12:41
isodudeRAW12:41
Tallia1Kubuntuwhy dd instead of cp?12:41
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Tallia1Kubuntuso, suppose that i have in /dev/hda1 my window partition, in that way i can simply move it to a backup location and repristinate it in a second moment if i want?12:42
Tallia1Kubuntuisodude: ?12:42
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Tallia1Kubuntuisodude: ?12:43
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en1gmaok breezy connects to net just fine upon boot BUT it takes freaking forever to get to the damn desktop12:48
en1gmadaper flight2 is prob like 10x faster to get to DE12:48
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en1gmaok so daper wont connect to net upon boot and breezy just takes damn forever12:49
_samwireless or wired?12:49
en1gmawired12:50
en1gmanforce2 mb using onboard lan12:51
_samis eth0 in your init scrypt?12:51
en1gmai dont have any script it just upon boot12:51
en1gmaetho reports in ifconfig -a but it has no ip12:51
_samu have router?12:51
en1gmayep12:52
en1gmaits set to dhcp12:52
_samdhcp?12:52
_samoh12:52
_sammk12:52
en1gmabreezy works fine but daper dont12:52
_samhrm12:52
en1gmabreezy just takes so long to reach DE12:53
en1gmai mean alont time12:53
_samdoes it sayu its using dhcp in the kde network manager?12:53
en1gmanetwrok manager didnt report anything12:53
_samu kno the manufaturer12:53
_samthey removed some drivers in dapper12:53
en1gmaifconfig -a showed eth0 being there, lsmod showed forcedeth nic driver loaded but there was no ip12:53
_samwierd12:53
_samsorry i dont know what the prob is then12:54
en1gmadoes knoppix take as long as breezy does on load up12:54
_samlittle less12:54
en1gmathis isnt for me this is for a windoze user im trying to convert to linux12:54
en1gma:)12:54
_sam:D12:54
en1gmalive cds are the best way to do that i think12:54
_samyah12:54
_samthey are slo tho12:54
_sambut knoppix is a little faster12:55
en1gmadsl and slax and daper are alot faster to get DE then breezy though12:55
_samkubuntu live cds are just crappy12:55
_samu ever heard of enlightenment/e1712:55
_sam?12:55
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en1gmayea i heard of it alot and wanted to use it with slamd64 but i was gonna have to build everything from scratch12:56
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en1gmait looks good12:56
_samcause there is a good fast live cd with that12:56
en1gmaare you serious12:56
_samelivecd.org12:56
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en1gmawhats it called12:56
en1gmathanks checking that now12:56
_sammk12:56
LeeJunFanI love unexplained crashes. Amarok, nothing has changed on my system, not even any changes to amarok or the playlist but it just won't run any more unless I edit amarokrc and remove my mysql configs. argh.12:58
_sammeh kaffiene > amarok12:59
en1gmai gonna wait to 0.4 elive as it should be out very soon01:01
en1gmagonna reboot and get knoppix01:01
en1gmabrb01:01
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dutchieevening guys ... I'm having trouble getting Java running in Konq ... tried all the howtos, I've run out of ideas ... can anyone help ?01:05
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dutchieI've downloaded Sun's 1.5 ... created the deb package ...01:05
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dutchiesupplied the full path in Konq's settings -> applet loading01:05
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sorush20how do i restart the kde menu?01:06
en1gmaman i sure wish daper flight2 would connect me to net01:06
en1gmacause so far its the best one01:06
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Hobbseeen1gma: did you try: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo dhclient && sudo ifup eth0?01:08
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dutchieso, anyone able to get Java to work in Konq ?01:10
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi there.. i'd like to reduce my 9GB linux kubuntu installation.. i don't know where to start. In windows it was easy, mainly it was about going in the program directory and delete unknown folders... what about linux? can you give me some hints on how eliminate for me useless material like unused libraries or programs?01:21
rancecould someone help me out with a software recommendation? I need a linux compatible invoice generation program, I'd like it to do a customer history, but it doesnt need to do parts, products or any of that other stuff, im just charging for labor01:23
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_samMIKE JONES01:25
_samfoap01:25
bimberiTallia1Kubuntu: empty the trash, clear web browser cache and "sudo apt-get clean"01:25
Tallia1Kubuntubimberi: tnx, you have been the only person answering correctly01:26
bimberiTallia1Kubuntu: lol, i didn't realise it was a test01:26
Tallia1Kubuntuyou can't even imagine what they wrote to me in debian01:27
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deaconGreetings all!01:33
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deaconHas anyone else here run into issues with the Network Config utility?01:34
Tallia1Kubuntuyes01:35
Tallia1Kubuntubut don't go in debian to ask  :) they are racist toward ubuntu ;)01:35
deaconI seem to have lost the ability to route on another machine after using Network Config to configure a static IP01:35
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deaconI doublechecked my settings, they are correct01:36
Tallia1Kubunturoute on another machine?01:37
deaconthe other machine cannot route out of my local network01:37
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Tallia1Kubuntumhh01:38
Tallia1Kubuntuhave you set the DNS?01:38
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Tallia1Kubuntuwhat kind of communication are you trying?01:38
deaconyep.  to my local dns01:38
Tallia1Kubuntuconnecting to internet or setting up a server?01:38
deaconjust simple ping or browsing01:38
Tallia1Kubuntui see01:38
deaconjust connecting01:38
Tallia1Kubuntucheck that in the router you insterted the right Internet DNS01:39
deaconall my other machines work, including the one I am talking to you on01:39
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deaconBesides, I am using my own DNS01:39
Tallia1Kubuntui see01:40
Tallia1Kubuntuwhat about subnets?01:40
Tallia1Kubuntuare you sure even the not working machine is in the same subnet?01:40
glickscuse me how do i just delete a folder in conquerer?01:42
glicki only have the option of sending to trash01:42
deaconyep.  it's a dual-boot machine, and the Win partition works just fine.01:42
glickand creating folders in trash doesnt work01:42
deaconand I only have one subnet01:43
deaconis there a secific conf file I can edit to regain network connectivity?01:44
deaconis it the Interfaces file in /etc/network, or is there another file?01:46
simluglikc - why do you want to create a folder in the trash?01:46
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Tallia1Kubuntuglick: you have to push shift and canc at the same time01:50
Tallia1Kubuntuglick: once you have selected the files that you want to delete01:50
deaconok, I fixed it.  I had to add a gateway line to /etc/network/interfaces in the eth0 section.01:53
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Tallia1Kubuntueheh02:05
Tallia1Kubuntui see02:05
Tallia1Kubuntudeacon: that file is read by ifconfig?02:06
en1gmahow often is dapper updated as the way it is now it dont handle dhcp correctly02:08
en1gmaso thats a pretty big bug02:08
Hobbseeen1gma: it's a common problem - check if there's a bug for it02:09
LeeJunFanen1gma: dapper is devel, it's updated daily, but when your bug get's fixed - who knows. Check the bug tracker and see if it's already been filed, if not file one.02:09
en1gmaLeeJunFan do i have to be running daper to use bug tracker02:10
Hobbseeno02:10
en1gmawhere is bug tracker02:11
en1gmaim on website and wikkie and dont see it yet02:11
bimberi!bugzilla02:11
ubotufrom memory, bugzilla is at http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com02:11
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cyberbuddyhello02:12
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Arcanimushi guys02:12
Hobbseebimberi: no, not bugzilla02:13
Hobbseehttps://launchpad.net/02:13
Hobbseeen1gma: https://launchpad.net/02:13
bimberiHobbsee: ah, has the transition happened?02:13
Hobbseeit all just moved to launchpad02:13
Hobbseeyep02:13
Arcanimusso; I must say that I am quite impressed with Kubuntu02:13
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ArcanimusI just installed it the other day02:13
bimberiHobbsee: thanks :)02:13
Arcanimusand it took me entirely by surprise :o02:13
en1gmadoes ubuntu and kubuntu use the same bugzilla link02:14
Hobbseeyes02:14
Arcanimusanyone here use K3b?02:14
bimberien1gma: yes (but read the last few posts)02:14
cyberbuddywhat does "no root file system is defined" mean?02:14
Arcanimuscyberbuddy,02:14
Arcanimusprobably that you don't have a "/" directory set02:14
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Arcanimusif you're partitioning then that should especially be the case02:14
cyberbuddyyes i am02:15
Arcanimusyou need to set a partition to be mounted as "/"02:15
en1gmatheres 6000 posts02:15
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Arcanimusso anyways; anyone use K3b?02:15
cyberbuddyi have two HDD's: hd0 with windows, hd1 with first partition longhorn, second going to be kubuntu, and last ntfs media partition02:15
cyberbuddyoh02:15
ArcanimusI need to burn DVD's (copy) and I have no idea whether K3b will do it properly02:15
Hobbseeit should do02:16
cyberbuddyArcanimus, i can set a partition to be mounted as "/" in the partitioner?02:16
Arcanimusit only has a "CD Copy" option - would this work for a dvd?02:16
Arcanimuscyberbuddy, yes02:16
Arcanimusin the installation partitioner02:16
Arcanimusyou will also need a swap partition02:16
Arcanimusso leave space for that02:16
cyberbuddyah, and just checking, i can install kubuntu without a boot loader right? (i already have one.. GRUB)02:16
Arcanimuswell, you don't really <need> it per say; but highly recommended02:17
cyberbuddyyeah, i know02:17
cyberbuddy1gb enough for swap?02:17
Arcanimusyou can install it without a boot loader but then you have to add the partition to grub02:17
cyberbuddyyup02:17
Hobbseecyberbuddy: grub will update if you want it to during the kubuntu install02:17
Arcanimusrule of thumb: swap partition = 2x physical ram02:17
Arcanimusso if you have 512 mb or ram put 1 gig partition for swap02:17
cyberbuddyi have 1gb physical02:17
cyberbuddyso 2gb02:17
Arcanimusgo for it :)02:17
cyberbuddy:)02:18
Arcanimusi usually add more than that but doesn't really matter02:18
cyberbuddyhmm then my / partition will be 13gb02:18
cyberbuddyenough to install kubuntu?02:18
Arcanimusmy server has 256 Mb or RAM and a 10 gig swap partition02:18
cyberbuddyhahahaha02:18
Arcanimuscyberbuddy, more than enough02:18
cyberbuddyah ok02:18
Arcanimus:P02:18
Arcanimusmy kubuntu / partition is 15 gigs02:18
cyberbuddyand just another quickie, can linux read and write to an NTFS partition?02:18
Arcanimusand 5 gigs of swap02:18
cyberbuddyah02:18
Arcanimusif you have the drivers for it cyberbuddy02:18
cyberbuddyah ok thanks02:19
ArcanimusNTFS is not thorougly tested however02:19
cyberbuddyah02:19
Arcanimusthe reading drivers work perfect as far as i can tell02:19
Arcanimusthe writing drivers are prone to problems02:19
Hobbseecyberbuddy: read, yes, write, no02:19
ArcanimusHobbsee, there are write drivers02:19
Arcanimusthey are just not stable02:19
cyberbuddyoh, thats fine02:19
cyberbuddyjust to access my media partition02:19
Hobbseetrue02:19
cyberbuddyw/ my music02:19
ArcanimusI just use a large FAT32 partition to work with files that go between linux and windows02:19
Arcanimusthat way they can both read and write to it flawlessly02:20
cyberbuddyhahaha i hate FAT32 :-x02:20
cyberbuddyyeah true02:20
Arcanimusworks better than NTFS for linux02:20
cyberbuddytrue02:20
cyberbuddyi actually had mac OSX on x86 before02:20
Arcanimusnice02:20
cyberbuddyremoved it so i can install kubuntu02:20
ArcanimusAnyone know how to get WinRAR to start w/ Wine (or how to get unrar, not unrar-free)?02:21
Arcanimuserr aside from paying that is 8-)02:21
cyberbuddyisnt winrar free?02:22
Arcanimusyes but it doesn't work with wine02:22
Arcanimusat least for me :\02:22
cyberbuddyoh02:22
Arcanimusi checked winehq but there's no suggestions02:22
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cyberbuddyhahah02:22
Arcanimusi needa unrar my backup02:22
cyberbuddydont have windows?02:22
Arcanimusi have it but i reformatted a few days ago02:23
Arcanimushaven't even installed drivers02:23
cyberbuddyoh lol02:23
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Arcanimusman, speaking of wine, every time i see it say "Windows Update" i just get a chill down my back02:23
Arcanimusfortunatelly, windows runs better on linux than on windows :)02:24
Arcanimusin some cases...02:24
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bimberiArcanimus: how about unrar for linux? there's unrar-free (in universe) and unrar-nonfree (in multiverse)02:27
Arcanimusbimberi, i need unrar not unrar-free then02:27
Arcanimusbecause the archive is RARed from windows using the 3.0 standard02:27
Arcanimuswhich unrar-free doesn't support02:27
Arcanimusi wasn't aware of the issue when I was RARing the files02:28
bimberiArcanimus: try unrar-nonfree then ...02:28
bimberi!multiverse02:28
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:28
en1gmahow do i get topic to get displayed02:28
Arcanimusyeah but non-free means $$$02:28
Arcanimusand that's $$$ for software; a no-no in my book :)02:28
ArcanimusI have multiverse02:28
en1gma!easysource02:28
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic02:28
en1gmahow do i navigate to daper from kubuntu.org02:29
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en1gmaim getting dapper-live-amd64.iso i hope it dont have probs with dhcp too02:30
bimberiArcanimus: um, unrar-nonfree doesn't mean $$$, it just means that it has a nonfree (as in freedom) licence02:31
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KonvIRChi02:37
KonvIRCI need install libqt2, but there isn't libqt2 in kubuntu repository, where I can find them?02:37
en1gmahi02:38
KonvIRCen1gma, can you help me?02:38
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en1gmawhy do you need to install libqt202:38
KonvIRCen1gma, I need install a program, which use libqt202:39
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en1gmayea i figured that02:39
KonvIRC:)02:39
en1gmawhat is the program02:39
KonvIRCwordtrans02:40
KonvIRCis a dictionary like Babylon02:40
en1gmacant you get the .deb package and install that02:40
KonvIRCnop02:40
en1gmadid you try already02:41
KonvIRCen1gma, ?02:41
en1gmathe .deb package02:41
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KonvIRCen1gma, I find them in ubuntu repository02:43
KonvIRCthanks02:43
KonvIRC!02:43
ubotuNot a clue, KonvIRC02:43
KonvIRC:-)02:43
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en1gmanp02:46
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wimpiesHI all, any,02:49
wimpiesI seem to be running old packages on 5.102:50
wimpiesI have a bug in amarok 1.3.1 but there is a versione 1.3.7 for breezy02:50
wimpiesWhat is the proper apt.source line for all 'recent' breezy packages ?02:50
wimpiesI now nave gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu is that ok ?02:51
dark_suicwimpies, it's ok, but some packages (as amarok1.3.7) and some others have to add additional lines (just for themselves)02:51
dark_suiclook at www.kubuntu.org02:52
dark_suicand see the announcements about kde3.5 and amarok1.3.702:52
dark_suicin the anouncements you have the sources.list lines you have to add to upgrade :)02:52
dark_suici just hope you understood me, i'm not english :P02:52
wimpiesno problem,02:52
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wimpiesIsn' that weird ? that for upgrades you need to add application specific lines ?02:53
wimpiesWhy is that ?02:53
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Knowerrorsany good programs for making a printable calander?02:55
Knowerrorscalendar02:56
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juifi dont know JACK !03:11
smittyabout03:12
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hounOk, about to install.  Any words of wisdom?03:23
hounNo?  Ok then!03:23
bimberiArcanimus: there you are :P   unrar-nonfree doesn't mean $$$, it just means that it has a nonfree (as in freedom) licence03:23
Arcanimuserr does it?03:24
Arcanimusheh03:24
Arcanimuspardon my ignorance then :)03:24
Tm_TKnowerrors: well, how about Kontact?03:25
bimberiArcanimus: forgiven :)03:25
bimberis/just //03:30
KnowerrorsTM_T might work, thx :)03:30
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adventureoflink_OK03:35
adventureoflink_I got the kubuntu installed03:35
adventureoflink_Had to add the noaccel option to xorg to get it running though (found it during a quick board search)03:35
adventureoflink_But03:35
adventureoflink_Where's kynaptic03:35
sampankynaptic has been replaced by Adept (new package manager)03:36
adventureoflink_Ah.03:36
adventureoflink_Thanks.03:36
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sampannp :)03:36
adventureoflink_I downloaded a rc1 a couple months ago03:36
adventureoflink_and put it on my server03:36
adventureoflink_Then I downloaded a new kubuntu for my laptop, so that's why.03:37
adventureoflink_Another stupid question03:37
adventureoflink_How come there's 4400+ possible packages on my laptop's config03:37
adventureoflink_yet on my server it's somewhere like 16,000+03:37
sampanyou probably need to enable all the repositories (universe and multiverse)03:37
adventureoflink_oh yeah.03:37
adventureoflink_did that also on my server03:38
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adventureoflink_I'll look up the wiki like last time then :D03:38
adventureoflink_Thanks again sampan.03:38
adventureoflink_I've only installed a working kubuntu twice, so expect me to forget things :oops:03:38
sampanglad to help -- enjoy!  :)  (and neither of your questions were remotely 'stupid' -- both very normal) ;D03:39
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adventureoflink_sampan,03:42
adventureoflink_I will enjoy kubuntu.03:42
adventureoflink_Have been since I installed it on my server.03:42
adventureoflink_...03:42
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adventureoflink_I rather like it.03:42
sampanexcellent!03:42
adventureoflink_:D03:42
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adventureoflink_<3 kubuntu03:43
adventureoflink_:D03:43
adventureoflink_Oh.03:43
adventureoflink_Got some more problems to report (kinda old, but moo)03:43
adventureoflink_They were on my server03:43
adventureoflink_When I first upgraded its KDE to 3.5, at first it wouldn't display the kdegreet (the logon prompt)03:44
adventureoflink_and it crashed03:44
adventureoflink_(however, I got it through the adept, by manually configuring it)03:44
adventureoflink_the updates stopped with like ~200 left to go03:44
adventureoflink_so I had to restart03:44
adventureoflink_I eventually got in to finish the updates, and that problem was fixed.03:44
adventureoflink_Anyway, since then Konqueror crashed a couple times here and there03:45
adventureoflink_And a couple nights ago, my alsa server crashed03:45
adventureoflink_sup with that03:45
sampanhrmmm ... i dunno ... the kde 3.5 packages are good, but technically not "official" -- i personally have stuck with 3.4.3, so i have no experience with 3.5.  hopefully the crashes won't continue and were just one-time things?03:46
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adventureoflink_Yeah03:46
adventureoflink_The kdegreet problem was fixed when I eventually got in manually and finished updates03:47
adventureoflink_konqueror crashed a couple times03:47
adventureoflink_But, personally I'd also stick to kde 3.4.303:47
adventureoflink_and that's what i plan on doing. :D03:47
pussfeller!restricted03:48
uboturestricted is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats03:48
pussfeller!compile03:48
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware03:48
pussfelleryer a good bot ubotu03:48
adventureoflink_lol03:48
sampandon't compliment him too much pussfeller -- he'll get a big head03:48
sampan;x03:49
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sambagirlmorning03:49
sambagirlanyone knowing windows 2000?03:50
adventureoflink_whatcha need to know sambagirl03:50
sambagirli cannot set video to right.03:50
sambagirli keep trying but it just doing 16 colores.03:50
sambagirlcolours03:50
sambagirli dont know what to do now.03:50
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stupendo44ok, somehow I screwed up my kicker. I was testing some applets, and now here's what I have. On the left I have the icons that I haven't changed, like Firefox, TB, etc. then my applications, clock, and system tray are centered together. The clock is in the middle and I want it on the right. How can I move this stuff around, and stop it from centering?03:51
sambagirli using kubuntu on this computer03:51
stupendo44sambagirl: you need to install the video driver03:51
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adventureoflink_sambagirl,03:51
sambagirli keep trying03:51
adventureoflink_Yeah, what stupendo44 said03:51
adventureoflink_that or install a monitor driver03:51
sambagirlahhh a moniter driver?03:51
adventureoflink_Yes,03:51
sambagirlthe screen?03:51
adventureoflink_Yes.03:51
sambagirlahh03:52
stupendo44sambagirl: the driver for the video card, not the monitor03:52
sambagirlhold on.03:52
stupendo44windows doesn't usually have a problem with monitors03:52
adventureoflink_stupendo44,03:52
adventureoflink_One time03:52
adventureoflink_I ran Longhorn 4074 in virtual pc03:52
sambagirli kkep trying but it just does not do what is supposed to do.03:52
adventureoflink_and it ran on like 4-8 colors till i installed the enhancements03:52
stupendo44sambagirl: go into device manager and see if it says what the video card is. Most of the time it won't, it will say something generic. But it's worth a shot03:52
sambagirli know this is kubuntu channel but i am card carrying kubuntu user ;)>03:53
sambagirlit just shows vga03:53
stupendo44sambagirl: card carrying... hmm... I should get in on that... :)03:53
adventureoflink_hmm03:53
sambagirli deleted that but then i trying to install the correct ati drivers and then it says i need vga first.03:53
stupendo44there's a debug command that will help identify the video card. Let me find it again. I forgot it. Meanwhile, load up a command prompt03:53
adventureoflink_Probably means she has kubuntu setup (or livecd) on a 700mb usb flash drive03:54
sambagirlyes when i joined kubuntu they send me a black card too.03:54
adventureoflink_bootable too o.o;03:54
pussfellerdxdiag?03:54
sambagirluse dxdiag?03:54
sambagirlbrb03:54
sambagirlwhta really makes me mad is it messes up with explorer. i have to use opera and this is new install. i am so angry with microsoft.03:55
stupendo44here's how to find out what video card it is:03:55
stupendo441. Load command prompt03:55
stupendo442. Type debug03:55
stupendo443. Hit enter03:55
sambagirlwhat is direct draw support?03:55
sambagirlit wont do windows update or anything.03:55
stupendo444. type d c000:001003:56
sambagirlok03:56
stupendo445. hit enter03:56
stupendo446. if it doesn't show what you need, just hit d then ENTER03:56
stupendo44that should show you enough info to get a driver03:56
stupendo44to exit debug, type q then enter03:56
sambagirlok brb03:57
sambagirldxdiag is neat03:57
sambagirlbrb03:57
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stupendo44you're mainly looking for a manufacturer and a model number. If it's popular, like nvidia or ati then you should be able to go to their website. If not, then you might need driverguide03:57
KnowerrorsAnyone here using the gkt styles fonts engine and have look like kde selected... For some reason, Synaptic isn't following, though all the other apps are, anyone know about this?03:57
stupendo44Knowerrors: same problem here. Didn't bother asking03:58
sambagirlwow03:58
stupendo44Knowerrors: Symantic was at first, but now it isn't03:58
sambagirlit is rage128 pro II03:58
sambagirli am not sure if i get from ati or dell i try ati this time.03:59
sambagirlbrb03:59
sambagirlthank you everyone03:59
stupendo44sambagirl: np03:59
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stupendo44sambagirl: should be https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/W2KR128513013279.exe04:00
sambagirlhere is somethign to ponder. go to www.thule.org and download alternative 3 videos and be amazed by the last 1 view last 1 first you will flip. secondly download moon one. this is deep heavy stuff.04:00
deaconDoes anyone know how I can get the mount permission for my username?04:00
stupendo44sambagirl: referring page is: https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=2704:00
pussfelleranyone had any success with that ext2 driver supposedly runs on windows04:00
sambagirlthanks04:01
sambagirlbrb04:01
pussfelleri used ext2explorer with decent success but want more transparency if possible04:01
deaconpussfeller:  i have had limited success.  But it does tend to cause explorer to crash.04:01
pussfelleror whatever you know what I mean04:01
stupendo44ok, thule.org is on the top 50 worst designed websites04:01
pussfelleri tried it  once and I think my whole system crashed and I was freaked and didnt mess with it no more04:02
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juifok, i got JACK, ALSA and Ardour talking04:02
pussfelleri got 200 gigs on FAT32 and I am totally worried about this04:02
juifbut, same as with Audacity, i cant record04:02
deaconIs there any way to grant my login the "mount" permission?  I mapped an SMB network drive to my desktop but I cannot mount it04:02
juifhow the fuck do i record ?04:02
sambagirlyes i agree but the Content! If it's true, we landde on mars in 1962 and they have the video to show it. It looks like they were flown in a flying saucer its incredible.04:03
pussfellerdeacon you can add it to fstab and in there you can set the 'user' flag so anyone can mount it04:03
sambagirlthen you can see what they saw something moving around on mars!04:04
sambagirlit's incredible.04:04
pussfellertheres more info on the wiki somewhere iirc04:04
sambagirli think this might be the solution to the video thing.04:05
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stupendo44juif: I couldn't hear you. The bleeping distorted what you said. What was that?04:05
sambagirlkubuntu is just magnificent04:05
stupendo44sambagirl: how often do you use windows04:05
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deaconActually, it's already in Fstab.  I just don't know how to allow anyone other than root to mount it automatically.04:06
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sambagirlmostly for streaming music and video and playing RTCW and ET and TCE and things like that.04:06
juifheh, the bleeping. well problem is simple, solution may be as well. i just cant record. plays fine, wont record. no software will record audio.04:06
pussfellerdeacon theres a long sting of vars you pass which I can't remember setting the gid and uid04:06
juifand i havent been able to find the "record" mixer, if you get my meaning04:07
stupendo44juif: you obviously have a mic plugged in...04:07
juifi have a mic plugged in and i have tried with line in as well04:07
deaconHmm...  When I try 'sudo mount -a'  it errors out and doesn't mount04:07
pussfellerthere might even be a smb mounter helper04:07
juifi can hear it in the speakers04:08
pussfellertry 'sudo -a -t smbfs'04:08
juifbut the program wont record it04:08
pussfellertry 'sudo mount -a -t smbfs'04:08
juifprobably just inputs not routed correctly04:08
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deaconwhen i check 'dmesg | tail'  I get this showing up  "smbfs: mount_data version 1935764838 is not supported"04:08
pussfelleror even sudo mount path_to_mount04:08
stupendo44juif: the mic mixer should be in KMix with the rest04:08
juifit is, its at max, i can hear it in the speakers04:09
juifbut its not recording04:09
stupendo44Menu > Multimedia > Kmix (sound mixer)04:09
juifi have that open, kmix04:09
pussfelleris audacity setto use the mic as recording device?04:09
stupendo44hmm04:09
juifall the inputs04:09
juifare at max04:09
juifwhere are the REC level faders ?04:10
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juifALSA seems to be aware of capture ports of some sort04:10
stupendo44ok, somehow I screwed up my kicker. I was testing some applets, and now here's what I have. On the left I have the icons that I haven't changed, like Firefox, TB, etc. then my applications, clock, and system tray are centered together. The clock is in the middle and I want it on the right. How can I move this stuff around, and stop it from centering?04:10
sambagirlyou might try in #LAD channel for linux audio developers support04:10
deaconit's wierd.  I can mount this with no problems on my laptop running kubuntu 5.10, that was upgraded from 5.01.  But i cannout mount it on my fresh install of 5.10 X64...04:11
juifok, will do04:11
sambagirli refuses to work the video drivers brb04:11
pussfellerstupendo44: click on that little bar to the left of the applet that show up when you hover04:11
pussfellerand drage04:11
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pussfellerdrag04:11
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pussfelleror right click on it and "move"04:12
stupendo44pussfeller: oh, yeah. I forgot about that. I actually hid those. But now I know how to do it. Thanks04:12
deaconbrb04:13
dataangelI added the sources on kubuntu.org and upgraded to AmaroK 1.3.7 -- but now it crashes on startup. It shows the splash screen, opens the main window, sits there unresponsive for awhile, then closes. It doesn't print anything to the console. I'm also running KDE 3.504:14
dataangelAnyone know how to fix? :P04:14
Tm_Tdataangel: what engine04:14
deacongotta relog.  be back04:14
dataangelTm_T: I never get far enough to pick one.04:14
sambagirldoes anyone know if dell uses motherboard/gp drivers?04:14
Tm_Tdataangel: interesting, have you installed any engine packages?04:15
dataangelTm_T: When I remove amarok it tells me it's also removing amarok-arts and amarok-gstreamer04:15
dataangelTm_T: Hmm, maybe I should just try uninstalling one of those04:15
Tm_Twell, you prolly don't use arts engine ever04:15
dataangelTm_T: Why not? Isn't arts default for KDE?04:16
dataangelsweet, uninstall amarok-gstreamer fixed it04:16
Tm_Tarts is really outdated and... well, not as good as gstreamer for example04:16
hounWell, that was a fast install.04:16
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pussfelleru might be better off with an svn of amarok...04:17
pussfellerbut that might be a little heavy if yer new to linux04:17
dataangelTm_T: Can you use gstreamer as the sound server for KDE somehow?04:17
Tm_Tdataangel: no, you don't need any sound servers04:17
Tm_Tyou have alsa already04:17
simlugstreamer is not a sound server04:17
dataangelTm_T: Assuming dmix works for your card04:17
arrinmurrdataangel: install amarok-xine04:18
dataangelTm_T: I am not sure that is the case for me04:18
Tm_Tdataangel: plug:dmix works04:18
dataangelTm_T: Not for all sound cards.04:18
Tm_Tit doesn't?04:18
Tm_Twhoa04:18
dataangelpretty sure04:18
Tm_Tinteresting04:18
dataangelI don't think it worked on nforce for example beginning of last year04:18
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Tm_TI have nforce204:18
dataangelI remember reading it's a project of the ALSA team to get dmix working on all cards04:19
Tm_Tand works just fine04:19
pussfelleraint taht software mixing? how could it not work04:19
dataangelright, now it does04:19
Tm_Tpussfeller: I was wondering the same04:19
dataangelno idea04:19
Tm_Tsoftware mixing _should_ work whatever is your soundcard04:19
dataangelis amarok-xine basically alsa?04:19
Tm_Tnope04:19
pussfellerxine would be the 'engine' in this case04:20
pussfelleramarok is just an organizer with nifty tools04:20
dataangelI mean, will amarok-xine play through it04:20
Tm_Txine just changes packed audio to sound stream for alsa04:20
Tm_Tjust like gstreamer does04:20
pussfellerand does the format decoding04:20
Tm_Tpussfeller: exactly04:20
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dataangelWhat external player can I set in kcontrol to play oggs?04:21
Tm_Togg123 or alsaplayer or... well, almost any console app04:21
hounQuestion: root passwd after install?04:21
Tm_Thoun: none04:22
pussfeller!root04:22
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:22
hounubuntulog: Can't.  No DNS right now, hense the need for root.04:22
pussfelleryer supposed to use 'sudo' for all root commands04:22
hounEr, that's a bot04:22
pussfellerhes a very nice bot too04:22
sambagirli think my problem was it did not have direct x installed. microsoft makes it very difficult to download this thing too.04:23
dataangelogg123 is trying to use esd04:23
hounI've never used sudo before.  Always just su.04:23
hounHmm...04:23
sambagirlsu = super user what does do do ?04:23
pussfellerthe way ubuntu hadles root is to disable the root password, and have users use sudo to preface any commands that require root priveleigeds04:23
awb4422I have an inspiron 8200 and I'm trying to get the volume keys to work. I'm trying to find information for kmilo - would anyone be able to enlighten me on kmilo and/or how to set it up? The service is running, I dont know what else to do.04:24
Tm_Tdataangel: wtf, well, switches04:25
Tm_Tdataangel: humm, install alsaplayer and some stuff related to it, I'll make a script04:25
hounpussfeller: And I'm seeing it just uses your standard password?04:26
hounpussfeller: As opposed to some wacky root passwd?04:26
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Tm_Tdataangel: especially install alsaplayer text forntend04:29
hounHmm.  Ok, everything looks right, but network is still down.  What am I missing...? *random mumblings*04:29
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hounHelp me out here.  When I try to access anything beyond my router box, I get "connect: Network is unreachable"04:33
hounAnyone?  No?04:36
Tm_Thoun: sounds like it's your router04:36
Tm_Tdataangel: miracle is: alsaplayer -d plug:dmix -l 0.5 -i text -q $*04:37
Tm_Thalf volume, plud:dmix and ofcourse alsa :)04:37
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Tm_Tdataangel: you can test it by replacing $* with any file04:37
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hounOk, that's probably the issue.  The GUI network config isn't holding the Gateway IP after Applying.04:38
hounWhere do you set the default gateway on Kubuntu?04:38
hounManually, that is.04:38
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Tm_Thoun: use wiki.ubuntu.com04:39
Tm_TI bet it's there04:39
hounTm_T: If I had a working web browser, I would ;D04:39
Tm_Taaah04:40
Tm_Tsorry04:40
Tm_Thum ti dummm04:40
houni'm sshed into my server box, and running IRC from there.04:40
Tm_Theh04:40
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hounI suppose I could see if I ever installed a console browser...04:40
Tm_Tlynx/w3m04:41
Tm_Tlinks2 too04:41
hounYeah, I've got lynx on here.04:42
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Tm_Tdataangel: you're still with me?04:43
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Tm_Tdamn04:44
Tm_Tall this work and what for... ;)04:44
houn...I hate browsing via console04:44
Tm_Thehe04:44
Tm_Tits refreshing04:44
Tm_Tatleast you don't need adblock04:45
bimberihoun: /etc/network/interfaces - look for a gateway line04:45
hounAll I need to know is the name of the file where it stores the gateway.  I've been on Gentoo too long, it seems, where EVERYTHING was in /etc/conf.d/04:45
Tm_Theh04:45
hounbimberi: You, sir or ma'am, are a godsend04:45
sambagirlcan you upgrade from 2000 to xp and save your data?04:46
Tm_Tsorry, I wasn't sure if just pointing the file is enough... so I didn't04:46
bimberihoun: :)04:46
hounTm_T: Heh, s'ok.  I'm no fool, but this is my first time on a Debian-based system.  In the past, it's been Redhat and Gentoo, both which have their own ways of running things, hehe04:47
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hounbimberi: BAM!  I've got internet!04:48
Tm_Taye04:48
bimberihoun: yay!04:48
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Tm_Thoun: sorry 'bout that, and good you got it working :)04:48
Tm_Thumm, breakfast...04:48
Tm_Tfeed me!04:48
hounTm_T: Nah, it's cool.04:48
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Tm_Tmore04:48
bimbericat bacon-&-eggs >> Tm_T04:49
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Tm_T:p04:49
hounLessie, inet back, what's next?04:50
hounAh, Video.04:50
Tm_Thumm, coffee, good bread (home baked ofcourse) some meat and cheese with it... that's start04:50
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SteilDoes anyone know what package is required for kde applications to send/recieve files and such from the network (for "network copying" or whatever)04:51
tuxracerdoes anyone know how to get runescape to work in konqueror?04:52
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z0rzHow do I make a application run on boot up?04:55
hounHey, why does using sudo ask for passwd sometimes, but not others?04:56
trappisthoun: it asks for it once, and it caches the password for 15 minutes04:57
z0rzbecause you already typed it04:57
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houngotcha04:57
trappistz0rz: I'm looking forward to hearing the answer to your question04:58
z0rzwell I know how to do it on GNOME04:58
z0rzbut not KDE04:58
trappistoh not bootup, but login04:58
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trappistmake a script in ~/.kde/Autostart04:58
trappistand make it executable04:58
psykwhast the deal with *.rin files?04:58
psyk*.run04:58
trappistpsyk: sh filename.run04:58
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juifis it normal for kubuntu, sitting idle, to use 188 of my 192 megs of ram ?05:04
Tm_Tjuif: yes05:05
juifand, can i make it use less ?05:05
Tm_Tyes and no05:05
LeeJunFanyes, it's normal for linux. As you use your system linux will keep a lot of your filesystem operations buffered, it will clear them as needed.05:05
Tm_Twhy should you05:05
juifoh05:05
juifso05:05
LeeJunFanjuif: if you do, it will be slower.05:05
juifi dont get it05:05
juifdo i have ram accessible ?05:06
Tm_Tmy system uses 300M ram all the time, idle and active05:06
Tm_Tjuif: yes05:06
juifany way to know what the actual usage load is ?05:06
LeeJunFanjuif: basically linux says,"Well, nothing else is using this memory right now, so I'll use it to store files that you might open again."05:06
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juifoh05:06
Tm_Tjuif: free05:06
LeeJunFanjuif: run 'free' from command line, look under +/- buffers05:06
Tm_T-/+ buffers/cache:     307316     72749605:06
Tm_Thummm05:06
Tm_Tand very active syste05:07
Tm_Tm05:07
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juifcached is available ?05:07
juifuuh05:07
LeeJunFanunder the column free - next to +/- buffers.05:07
juifoh05:07
juifok05:07
Tm_Twell, it's cached but can be used by programs if needed05:07
juifok i see it05:07
juifmy ram is about half used05:08
Tm_Tlike my system, uses 300M ram plus all free is used by cache/buffer05:08
juifyour system uses 300m05:09
Tm_Tso, if some app needs lots of ram, cache/buffer just gives it to prog05:09
Tm_Tyes05:09
juifthats a lot of ram :)05:09
Tm_Tactually not05:09
Tm_TI have all sort of programs running in 8 desktpos05:09
Tm_Tdesktops05:09
LeeJunFanMy total mem used is 739968, almost all of it's 1 gig. But take away buffers and it's about 350M of ram in use. And I have a lot of crap going on here.05:10
Tm_Thehe05:10
juiffrom the perspective of someone stuck with a machine with 192mb of memory its a lot :)05:10
Tm_Tjust killed konqueror, only 260 used anymore :p05:10
juifi gotta get a gig05:10
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Tm_Tjuif: well you wouldn't have over 20 windows open here and there05:11
hounBam.  Twinview.05:11
juifhow come its accessing the swap drive then05:12
juifif its got all that ram available ?05:12
hounI was never a big fan of Gui Configs anyway, hehehe05:12
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Tm_Tjuif: well, in your amount of ram, swap is needed, but it's not bad thing05:12
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LeeJunFanmaybe I should wait until tomorrow to download dapper when I have 6mbit instead of 3:)05:12
Tm_TLeeJunFan: nah!05:13
Tm_TLeeJunFan: just do upgrade05:13
ranceIve had a strange occurance over the last two days, a couple of days ago, I had an app crash while trying to access the cdrom, I couldnt quit the app, and I couldnt eject the cdrom, from a terminal window I had to type "sudo eject cdrom" since then, I can not eject the cd any other way, I have to type the command always, I figured a restart would clear it, but that didnt work, its been so long now, I dont even remember the app th05:13
LeeJunFanTm_T: no, I'm not prepared for breakage on this system. Well, not totally. I'm installing dapper to a separate partition I keep just for playing with devel versions :)05:13
Tm_T:(05:13
Tm_Twhy?! ;(05:13
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Tm_T+ does05:14
LeeJunFanTm_T: I can't be w/o working stuff. At least with 2 / partitions with different versions I can fall back to breezy.05:15
Tm_Thumm, brand new amaroK, Kicker and Kopete running, time to compile KOffice05:15
Tm_TLeeJunFan: same here, but I like living in the edge ;)05:15
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Tm_Thum hum05:15
Tm_Tthere's always something to compile =)05:16
LeeJunFanTm_T: I do too, but I swear every time I do something with my desktop system and I have it down, something will break at work and I'll be left w/o a machine to get into the servers, etc...05:16
Tm_Thehe05:16
Tm_TLeeJunFan: you can have one spare pc from me, I have 6 here05:17
Tm_Tmost of them are just fine for running irssi ;)05:17
Tm_TKOffice and KDEPim compiling, now breakfast ->05:18
LeeJunFanTm_T: hehe, no thanks. I have enough servers to admin, I don't want to have multiple machines to admin at home too. :)05:20
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LeeJunFanmostly just a pain to keep all the tools and files synced between multiple desktops. Nothing more fun than going from one machine to another and realizing I don't have password for system X on this machien and the other machine is 50 miles away turned off.05:21
LeeJunFanamarok using 50% cpu, tha'ts a good sign.05:23
juifmight be a stupid question but i have to ask, do all applications with a GUI require a desktop environment ?05:24
juifex: could i command-prompt the gimp or ardour or something ?05:24
LeeJunFanjuif: well, they don't need a desktop environment, but they do need X server to connect to, and any libraries they depend on.05:25
juifany way i could get that thing running, and boot this machine straight into command prompt, freeing the ram needed by KDE, and open what i need to work with from there ?05:26
LeeJunFanX is responsible for drawing to your video card, a desktop environment draws it's stuff through X. So you can run X w/o gnome or kde, and you basically get nothing on the screen.05:26
LeeJunFanyeah, and you can install much smaller/lighter desktops than kde too. like blackbox or fvwm, etc.. there are quite a few to choose from.05:27
juifoh.05:27
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juifare they any good ?05:27
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juifhm.. that i guess i can determine by looking around, real question would be, can i do that ?05:28
juifwith kubuntu05:28
LeeJunFanjuif: yeah, but basically features == bloat. So you'll miss out on a lot of stuff that more full featured (and RAM hungry) user interfaces offer.05:28
LeeJunFanjuif: sure can.05:29
LeeJunFanjuif: just have to install them, then they should be selectable from your login screen.05:29
juifoh really05:29
juifthat sounds good05:29
juifare there any in the universe multiverse thing ?05:30
LeeJunFanyeah, I think you'll find pretty much anything you want to try is available in the repositories already so you won't need to compile anything.05:30
juifany other cool repositories i could add on top of the two already in the list ?05:31
juifin that whatever config file thing ?05:31
LeeJunFanjuif: if you have universe and multiverse - and of course main then you are pretty set. universe is where most everything is.05:32
juifok05:32
juifdo you know offhand what the name of that file is ? i want to give it a look over make sure all 3 are enabled05:33
LeeJunFanbest bet is probably to load adept (package manager for kde) and search for window manager (make sure it's searching in descriptions as well as title), there are a lot.05:33
LeeJunFan /etc/apt/sources.list05:33
LeeJunFanto edit it use 'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list'05:34
juifhow can i make it search descriptions too ?05:36
LeeJunFanjuif: I guess adept will be default.05:37
juifah05:37
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juifit seems to do it default05:37
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flipjargIs there any way to get my wireless card to auto enable when i plug it in after startup?05:38
flipjarg!info wlan05:39
juifi just installed blackbox from adept, so theres nothing else i need to do, exept reboot and watch the screen ?05:39
flipjarg!info k3b-mpt305:39
LeeJunFanflipjarg: I don't know of any GUI util, but you can edit your /etc/network/interfaces file. man interfaces05:39
flipjargthat's what i was hoping to do, edit a script. i didn't know where it would be though.05:39
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: I don't know if the manpage documents it but you can put anything in the interfaces file under a device and prefix it with wireless- to set wireless settings.05:40
LeeJunFanflipjarg: ie. under ath0 you can put wireless-essid [essid] , any iwconfig args can be used there.05:41
flipjargLeeJunFan: ok... i don't know much about that but i will take a look at the file to see if i can do it, otherwise i might need to ask a couple more questions if the man doens't help. Thank you :-)05:42
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flipjargLeeJunFan: i think i found it. Would it be 'hotplug'?05:43
LeeJunFanflipjarg: no, it should do that all automatically.05:44
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: if you open a console and type iwconfig can you see your wireless devices listed with some info?05:44
flipjargLeeJunFan: Yes05:44
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flipjargBut it doesn't connect to the network automaticly05:45
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: then it's just that interfaces file needs to know how to set it up when you boot.05:45
LeeJunFanflipjarg: how are you getting it to work manually?05:45
LeeJunFanBTW, where in Michigan are you? I'm in Cheboygan.05:46
flipjargLeeJunFan: going into network settings and clicking admin mode then enabling ath005:46
flipjargi'm not in michigan05:47
flipjargi don't know why my ip shows up like that.05:47
LeeJunFanflipjarg: first thing is to add a line to the top of /etc/network/interfaces like the one for lo that says 'auto ath0'.05:47
LeeJunFanflipjarg: hehe.05:47
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flipjargLeeJunFan: there is a line like that already. But it's not at the top.05:48
abidhi05:48
flipjargLeeJunFan: Do i need to add ip's like the lines below that?05:48
LeeJunFanflipjarg: it doesn't really need to be, I just keep mine grouped so it doesn't get messy.05:48
LeeJunFanflipjarg: if you don't use DHCP you need IP's, but I'm guessing you do use DHCP.05:49
flipjargLeeJunFan: Yes, i do.05:49
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abidHi05:49
LeeJunFanflipjarg: can you paste your /etc/network/interface file to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com and send me the link? I'll take a look at it.05:50
LeeJunFans/interface/interfaces05:50
flipjargi was just thinking of showing you my script somehow.05:50
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flipjargLeeJunFan: Send you /etc/network/interfaces?05:51
LeeJunFanno, just paste it to that url for pastebin, then send me the link to it.05:51
flipjargjust making sure you wanted that file.... doing it now.05:52
flipjarghttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/50773005:52
LeeJunFanflipjarg: right, do you have more than one wireless network your machine can see, and do you use WEP?05:53
flipjargThere are a bunch of networks around me, all of them except for two use WEP, one of them i cannot get a connection too and the other is my network.05:54
flipjargi don not use wep05:54
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: okay, well that's probably why yours doesn't just work right away in the first place, since no essid is specified in your interfaces file it's probably joining the wrong one.05:55
flipjargok05:55
donkeypunchercan someone help me install this pci card stratitec usb2.0 card05:55
flipjargmy card doesn't blink at all it's just a solid color when i put it in untill i enable it.05:55
flipjargLeeJunFan: untill i enable it manually that is.05:56
LeeJunFanhttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/50773405:56
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: hrm, don't know if that's the same issue, but anyway, if you add the wireless-essid [your network name]  under the iface ath0 line like I showed there it should at least join the right network.05:57
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LeeJunFanflipjarg: there is a possibility you want to change auto ath0 to allow-hotplug ath0 also.05:59
LeeJunFanflipjarg: oh - and don't use the [] 's in the file.06:00
flipjargok, so change the []  and everything in it to my network name then?06:01
LeeJunFanflipjarg: right like wireless-essid mynet06:02
flipjargi'll see if it works right now as it was then i'll try allow-hotplug ath0. First i have to change the network name.06:02
flipjargLeeJunFan: ok got it.06:02
LeeJunFanyeah, you should just be able to run ifdown ath0 ; ifup ath006:03
flipjargoh, is that like 'service restart pcmcia'?06:03
flipjargdoes it do the same thing?06:03
flipjargsort of.06:04
LeeJunFanno, it just takes the interface down and up, you probably will want to pop the card since it may be the hotplug that's doing it.06:04
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flipjargok, i'm going to give it a go now. brb06:04
LeeJunFanbrb06:04
nrdbI am getting two messages repeated a lot in /var/log/messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)." and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." anyone know how to fix this?06:05
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juifmega thanks to whoever just reccomended the blackbox desktop. its a little wonder.06:09
Tm_Ttrue06:09
juifany more cool small desktops like that you can reccomend ?06:09
Tm_Tjuif: you could also try fluxbox or openbox06:09
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juifit even runs all the kde apps :)06:10
Tm_Tjuif: you have to remember that those are not full desktop environments like KDE, Gnome or XFCE06:10
Tm_Tjuif: ofcourse06:10
Tm_Tjuif: you can run BlackBox in KDE too06:10
LeeJunFanjuif: I used to like windowmaker too - and you're welcome.06:10
juifyeah i know, but i just need to open my programs, then i dont need any further "environment"06:11
Tm_Tor KDesktop on BlackBox or... well06:11
Tm_Tjuif: aye06:11
Tm_Tyou can mix stuff as much as you like06:11
Tm_Tand yes WindowMaker <306:11
LeeJunFanI remember when I used to run Enlightenment and kwin on top of that.06:12
Tm_Thumm,:)06:12
Tm_Twhoops06:12
Tm_Thumm, compilation errors06:12
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LeeJunFanTm_T: what are you compiling - the whole KDE?06:13
nrdbI am getting two messages repeated a lot in /var/log/messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)." and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." anyone know how to fix this?06:13
Tm_TLeeJunFan: just some apps from svn06:13
Tm_TLeeJunFan: KOffice now, let's see if it's in the code or just me06:13
Tm_Tthis what I do most of these days :p06:14
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Tm_Thehe06:15
LeeJunFanstill can't get ssh working right on the damn thing, that's tomorrows battle.06:15
Tm_Thttp://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/kedubuntu-1f.png06:15
Tm_Tthat's another thing I do06:16
juifany idea how i could change the background color of the windows from white to black, its driving me nuts :) (in blackbox)06:16
Tm_Tjuif: you should install some config tools06:17
LeeJunFanTm_T: nice, now make me one for my widescreen :)06:17
juifas ?06:17
Tm_TLeeJunFan: you want? I can, in a second, just tell me the size06:17
LeeJunFanTm_T: 1680x1050 - and thanks. :)06:18
Tm_Tno problemo06:18
hounHmm.06:18
hounWhat's the package for Firefox?06:18
juifhmm.. found something in the universe06:18
LeeJunFanhoun: mozilla-firefox06:18
hounLeeJunFan: I tried that, get an error about it not having any candidates, but being referenced by another package.06:19
Tm_TLeeJunFan: 1680?06:19
yellowdartanybody know of a way to auto-format a phone number when syncing with kpilot (ie: number originally entered as 1234567890, formatted to 123-456-7890 or something like that)06:19
LeeJunFanTm_T: yeah, 1680x105006:20
Tm_To   k06:20
yellowdart...or do i have to export to csv...run a script then re-import06:20
LeeJunFanhoun: actually mine says it's just firefox06:21
LeeJunFanjunfan@jkd:~$ dpkg-query -S /usr/bin/firefox06:21
LeeJunFanfirefox: /usr/bin/firefox06:21
hounHmm, same error.06:22
Tm_Thumm humm06:22
Tm_Tyellowdart: sorry, I have no idea06:23
hounThat fixed it.  Had to open up more respositories.06:25
Tm_TLeeJunFan: wanna give it a try?06:25
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flipjargLeeJunFan: Hello again. It's working!06:26
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yellowdartTm_T: well, it's easy enough to write a script to traverse a csv file...but these are numbers that i'm getting from my treo600...would rather it work automatically :-/06:26
LeeJunFanflipjarg: cool, was it the essid or the hotplug?06:26
LeeJunFanor something else?06:26
flipjargLeeJunFan: i took out the ssid part so that it would just connect to any open network. i think the thing that was not allowing me to connect was hotplug06:27
yellowdartTm_T: thanks anyhow...maybe i can do it on my mac...then import to here06:27
flipjargLeeJunFan: pretty sure it was hotplug06:27
flipjargLeeJunFan: Thanks so much for the help. You've save me quite a bit of hassel in the future. No more manually enabling!06:27
LeeJunFanTm_T: thanks :)06:27
LeeJunFanflipjarg: np.06:28
flipjargLeeJunFan:  i must be off to bed i have work early tomorrow. i'll see you around.06:28
Tm_TLeeJunFan: no problemo06:28
Tm_TLeeJunFan: see my privmsgs, now some inkscape ->06:28
LeeJunFanTm_T: yeah, that looks better, tough to find good backgrounds for widescreens.06:29
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=== LeeJunFan isn't very graphically inclined.
LeeJunFanI can make other peoples visions come to life, but I'm not reall good at the envisioning part.06:30
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nrdbI am getting two messages repeated a lot in /var/log/messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)." and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known." anyone know how to fix this?06:30
Tm_TLeeJunFan: me neither, I just do...06:32
LeeJunFanPart of my problem is I'm not very patient. Which is why I don't run windows, my computer would have a .45 slug in it.06:33
LeeJunFanor since it's a laptop - through it.06:33
Tm_TI can spend days just painting pixel by pixel...06:34
LeeJunFanTm_T: I have no problems writing code, or debugging, reading coding manuals, but graphics and html I just don't like to spend time on.06:35
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LeeJunFanoh, and as long as the coding isn't perl.06:35
LeeJunFanC, php, python, all alright. PERL == ice cream headache.06:36
Tm_T:p06:37
nrdbhow can I find out what keycodes aren't used?06:37
Tm_Tok, no inkscape then06:38
Tm_Tand nothing that requires cpu06:38
Tm_Tor hd06:38
LeeJunFannrdb: sorry, I can't help you, but since it seems to be a system wide type thing you might have more luck in #ubuntu where there are more people.06:38
nrdbLeeJunFan: thanks I will try there06:39
LeeJunFanI don't understand why that is though, I've never meat anyone face to face who prefers gnome over anything, yet #ubuntu has so many more people than #kubuntu. Is it perhaps that more of the KDE people are enticed to run something like Mandrake or Suse?06:42
LeeJunFanI can't imagine why.06:43
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Tm_TLeeJunFan: brainwashing goverment06:46
jagerboredbored06:47
jagersomeone break something so i'll have something to do06:47
Monketh#ubuntu would seem more official.06:48
LeeJunFanjager: such as?06:48
LeeJunFanMonketh: yeah, personally I don't see the need for 2 channels.06:48
MonkethOK: wine on Kubuntu amd64!06:48
jageri dunno, i just got this thing working06:48
jagerand you know that once things work they are boring06:48
LeeJunFanMonketh: dunno about wine but codeweavers works fine. Even though I installed it in my $HOME when my system was running i386, switched to i86_64 and same binaries still run, so codeweavers must be statically linked.06:50
MonkethHm, I suppose I'll just try some i386 binaries then.06:50
LeeJunFancrossover that is.06:50
MonkethAlthough last time I tried wine it locked X and froze the computer. :P06:50
LeeJunFanMonketh: then it was working just fine.06:51
LeeJunFanMonketh: since that's what windows would do too :)06:51
jagerhahaha06:51
MonkethCome now, everyone knows wine is not a emulator. :P06:51
MonkethAlthough it can sucessfully use some viruses06:52
Monkethan*06:52
LeeJunFanMonketh: yeah, like internet explorer.06:52
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MonkethAnywho, W2K and WXP really want to be decent OS's, somewhere deep inside...06:53
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MonkethBut I gotta sleep, so au revoir.06:53
jagerlater Monketh06:53
LeeJunFanYeah, as vista is becoming more and more like unix. Separated the GUI from the kernel, added symlinks. etc...06:54
LeeJunFanlater.06:54
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jageri have faith that it'll manage to be a cockup just like the rest06:54
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LeeJunFanyeah, but it doesn't matter since the majority of the population are a bunch of cock-gobblers.06:54
LeeJunFanI think in microsofts seat of power, they could re-release windows 3.11 as their next version and everyone would just start using it like the bunch of sheep they are.06:55
jagerhey 3.11 separated the gui and the kernel06:57
jagersuch as it was06:57
jagerhah06:57
LeeJunFanhehe, true.06:57
jagereverything old is new again!06:57
jagerand think how fast it'd run on todays hardware06:58
jagerway faster than XP :)06:58
LeeJunFanyeah, but none of your hardware would work since it's all USB nowadays.06:59
jagerhey now, driver support is not microsoft's problem :)06:59
LeeJunFanno support is.07:00
jagertoo right07:00
jager"call your oem"07:00
jagerfuckers07:00
LeeJunFanyep.07:00
LeeJunFanOr pay some huge amount per min for phone support.07:00
LeeJunFanAnd everyone's answer to anything is to re-install.07:00
jageryou gotta admit it works07:01
jagermost of the time anyway07:01
LeeJunFanyeah, and if I had to support MS that's what I'd say too.07:01
jagermaybe vista will have decent logfiles07:01
jagerthat'd help07:01
LeeJunFanIt's not worth the trouble to try to not only talk someone though registry editing, but finding the offending non-documented feature is impossible.07:02
LeeJunFanyeah, error messages that are more than an address in memory would be helpful.07:02
jagerif i'm lucky i'll never have to worry about it again07:02
jager</ex support tech>07:03
LeeJunFanShould make a new law, any software should give the work and home phone #'s of the copyright holder. They'd shape up then.07:04
LeeJunFangive them with any error message.07:04
LeeJunFanif only the software were available for linux, MS would be in trouble then. Quickbooks, adobe, macromedia, games, etc... That's why people are still running windows.07:06
jagerinteresting that no microsoft software made your list there ....07:07
LeeJunFanheh, didn't even notice that. Although I will say that MS Office and Flight Sim are very nice pieces of software, they should just not make operating systems.07:07
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LeeJunFanor browsers07:08
juifi dont seem to be able to use bbconf to change the background or text colors in terminal windows on blackbox.07:08
jageror email clients07:08
jagerbbiab07:09
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juifuh oh07:16
juifguys, i think i broke my kubuntu07:16
LeeJunFanwhy's that?07:17
juifwhile trying to install 3 desktop environments at once07:17
LeeJunFanshouldn't make any difference.07:17
LeeJunFanbut what ones did you install?07:17
LeeJunFanthey should simply be added to the list on your kdm login screen.07:17
juifsince i did that i got strange errors and  "no write access to /home/juif/.ICEauthority" and "could not read network connection list /home/juif/.DCOPserver_grossebitch__0"07:18
juifi tried to install openbox and fluxbox plus their addon config programs07:18
juif0oh, and KDE apps wont run right07:18
juifunless i sudo them07:18
juifKDE desktop itself just wont run07:18
LeeJunFansudo was your problem in the first place I bet.07:19
juifhow so ?07:19
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LeeJunFanyou should not use sudo to run kde apps, because permissions can get hosed.07:19
juifi used sudo for adept a couple times cause it wont run elsewise07:19
LeeJunFanfirst try this - sudo chown -R juif.juif /home/juif07:20
LeeJunFanjuif: you should use kdesu adept07:20
juifit runs in read only and is useless, although i bet i can command line call them with apt-get or something07:20
LeeJunFanjuif: yeah, you can do that.07:20
juifwhat other times should i kdesu ?07:20
LeeJunFanyou will also need to chown some dirs in /tmp and /var/tmp that have your username associated with them.07:20
LeeJunFanany kde application you run as root you should use kdesu.07:21
juifproblem seems to be solved with the chown command07:21
sampanjuif, have you updated your breezy install?  if you can't run adept from the kmenu, that sounds to me like the "admin bug" (which was fixed in the first week after release in updated packages)07:21
juifits something i downloaded from the site a week ago07:21
juifa cd image07:21
sampanthat's the 'stock' install -- which has the bug.  when breezy shipped quite a few people ran into a bug with 'admin mode' and kdesu stuff07:22
juifhow do i know what dirs in /tmp and /var/tmp i should chown ?07:22
juifi am having trouble with the admin mode07:22
juifin kde config things07:22
sampanyeah -- if you update your system, it'll be fixed07:22
juifi will look for that update07:22
LeeJunFanjuif: yeah, you should do updates, edit your /etc/apt/sources.list file and uncomment the updates and security related lines, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade07:23
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cyberbuddyhello07:26
cyberbuddyanyone alive?07:26
juifam i gonna need a reboot ? after updates ?07:26
sampanjuif, only if it's a kernel image or something -- otherwise, no -- updates are almost always applied without any rebooting (or even a logout)07:27
juifoh, and where do i change the background image ? im using openbox until i can figure out how to change colors in blackbox terminal windows :) and it kept the stock kubuntu on world map background, i want it to be something else. or a blank screen.07:28
LeeJunFanjuif: if you do apt-get upgrade it shouldn't upgrade your kernel, if you do dist-upgrade it will.07:29
juifi gather a dist-upgrade isnt needed at this point ?07:29
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LeeJunFanjuif: likely not.07:29
LeeJunFanjuif: you can always try dist-upgrade and see what it says it's going to update and just hit N when it asks if you really want to do it.07:30
cyberbuddyanyone ever install ubuntu on a dell?07:30
yellowdartcyberbuddy: inspiron 800007:30
cyberbuddygiving an error about dell's fat16 util partiton on the first drive (installing kubuntu on second drive second partition)07:31
LeeJunFanyellowdart: you have an I8000 that works?07:31
yellowdartLeeJunFan: yeah07:31
yellowdartLeeJunFan: works great actually07:31
cyberbuddyis that error normal w/ dells?07:31
LeeJunFanyellowdart: how long before you had to take it apart and replug your video? Or your keyboard tit started moving the cursor on it's own?07:31
yellowdartLeeJunFan: never had those probs07:32
LeeJunFanyellowdart: no kidding. In the company I worked for a few years ago 6 employees got them, only one didn't have those problems.07:32
LeeJunFanAll bought at different times too, some were actually 8100's.07:32
vega-is it possible to remove gnome altogether from kubuntu?07:32
yellowdartLeeJunFan: yeah...the only problem i ran into was the initial install...tried 5.10 and had to resort to 5.04 and then remove the CDROM from sources.list07:33
LeeJunFanvega-: yeah, but be careful it may be intertwined with other packages. apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop07:33
cyberbuddyno one answered my Q :-/07:33
cyberbuddyis that eror normal w/ dells?07:33
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: what's the error?07:34
yellowdartcyberbuddy: what error is it giving??07:34
cyberbuddygiving an error about dell's fat16 util partiton on the first drive (installing kubuntu on second drive second partition)07:34
cyberbuddythat it has uncorrectable errors07:34
cyberbuddyand asks to continue or go back and fix07:34
LeeJunFanah, you should just be able to ignore it. continue07:34
cyberbuddyi dont want my first drive touched07:34
cyberbuddywhy is it even checking it?07:35
yellowdartcyberbuddy: most likely the util partition is for suspend-to-disk...when your system sleeps07:35
cyberbuddyah07:35
LeeJunFanproblem is the partition is marked as being something linux thinks it can understand and it wants to mount it for you when you get linux working.07:35
vega-LeeJunFan: thanks, that was what i was looking for07:35
yellowdartcyberbuddy: it should be something like the total size of your ram plus video ram...maybe a few extra MB to be safe07:35
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yellowdartnot very big really07:36
cyberbuddylinux can read FAT16?07:36
yellowdartcyberbuddy: yeah, it can...dosfsutils07:36
LeeJunFanyeah, and ntfs, and fat32, and reiserfs, and amiga FFS, and about 30 others.07:36
cyberbuddyah, yellowdart, its 39mb07:36
jagercan it write ntfs yet?07:36
LeeJunFanjager: not natively.07:36
cyberbuddyi have 1gb ram plus 256mb video ram07:36
jagerdidn't think so07:37
LeeJunFanjager: there a kernel mod which somehow uses a winelike thing that uses microsofts DLL file.07:37
LeeJunFanjager: so there is a way to do it, safely supposedly.07:37
yellowdartcyberbuddy: well, maybe it's something with the bios...i know that's generally how big it would be on my laptop07:37
cyberbuddyyeah, it is07:37
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cyberbuddywindows xp's disk management sees it as "EISA Configuration"07:38
yellowdartcyberbuddy: well, you should be able to disregard that partition altogether...07:38
cyberbuddyyeah07:38
cyberbuddyjust was wondering why its even checking my first drive07:38
LeeJunFanExtended ISA, plug and play data basically. So the system can remember and assign the same IRQ's to ISA cards you put in it.07:38
cyberbuddyim very paranoid.. i have my LIFE on the first drive, i dont want it touched07:39
cyberbuddyoh ok07:39
yellowdartcyberbuddy: it's because linux sees all the drives that are plugged in still...07:39
cyberbuddyoh07:40
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: it won't mess with it unless you tell it to. Just make sure you format and partition NOT hda. :)07:40
cyberbuddysda for me ;)07:40
LeeJunFanokay. hehe07:40
cyberbuddylol07:40
cyberbuddywhat about the master boot record07:41
cyberbuddyi dont want it touched07:41
cyberbuddydoes the installer ask where to install the boot loader?07:41
cyberbuddyon which disk that is..07:41
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: well, w/o doing that you won't be able to tell your machine to boot linux.07:41
cyberbuddyi have NTLDR loading GRUB, thats covered07:41
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: yeah, but your bios isn't going to look at the second drive for bootcode.07:41
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cyberbuddyits worked before on my second HDD with mac OSX07:41
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: okay, then yeah, you can install your grub to sdb or whatever.07:42
yellowdartcyberbuddy: well...the setup auto detects any other OS's you may have installed and adds them to the Grub menu...07:42
cyberbuddyeven there on other disks?07:42
yellowdartyeah07:42
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: yes.07:42
cyberbuddyah ok07:42
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cyberbuddylosing my MBR, i dont care as much as my data getting f-ed, since i can recover data even though MBR is f-ed07:43
cyberbuddythanks your help :)07:43
yellowdartcyberbuddy: worst case...M$ has an MBR repair on their install cd's in recovery mode07:43
cyberbuddyyeah, ive heard of that07:44
cyberbuddyi wish MS never existed07:44
cyberbuddywe're so used and depend on their OS07:44
cyberbuddyor else i wouldnt have windows, just linux07:44
LeeJunFanif it wasn't microsoft it'd be some other bastard :)07:44
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yellowdarthttp://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php?page=En07:45
cyberbuddyhahah *cough* apple *cough*07:45
yellowdartsuper grub disk...fixes grub in a pinch07:45
yellowdarthey, i dont have a single M$ machine here... just penguins and apples07:45
yellowdart:)07:45
jagerwoo07:46
cyberbuddyhahaha07:46
cyberbuddyyellowdart, ever try osx86?07:46
jagerooo i've been wanting to try that07:47
LeeJunFanI can't give up my flight sims yet :)07:47
jagersince i have no bling to buy an apple07:47
cyberbuddyused to have it, network and audio didnt work07:47
LeeJunFanI wonder if I could get longbow 2 to run in wine.07:47
cyberbuddyi removed it to install kubuntu07:47
yellowdartcyberbuddy: i can run osx faster on my mac ;) ...i'll wait till the wallet can afford a new intel mac to try the real deal07:47
cyberbuddyhahah yes07:48
cyberbuddyim poor :(07:48
yellowdarteh, me too...but that doesnt stop me. hehe07:48
cyberbuddyinter core duo i think is what the intel imac's have07:48
cyberbuddyhahah07:48
cyberbuddy*intel07:48
yellowdartcyberbuddy: yeah, so do the MacBook Pro's07:49
jagerhow do i get all my hard drives to show up in the "storage media" tab in konq?07:49
jagerit only shows my external firewire drive07:49
LeeJunFanjager: they need to have entries in /etc/fstab and their mountpoint needs to be inside the /media directory, man fstab07:51
LeeJunFanand man mount07:51
jagerthanks07:51
yellowdartjager: one thing you can do... (right-click desktop) Configure Desktop >> Behavior >> Device Icons07:51
jageroh hey i can get them off my desktop, good deal07:51
LeeJunFanyellowdart: yeah, or that, but for some reason doesn't work as well as advertized, at least not for me.07:51
yellowdartyou can have any mounted/unmounted media show up on the desktop07:52
yellowdartLeeJunFan: personally, i dont use that...i like fstab and a terminal myself ;)07:52
yellowdartgood ol' mount/umount07:52
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LeeJunFansame here.07:53
LeeJunFanalthough I did setup static icons on my desktop for my external USB drive.07:53
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yellowdartLeeJunFan: actually, i guess MOST of the time it's 'svn update'... :)07:54
yellowdarthehe07:54
yellowdartall my external drives are ssh07:55
cyberbuddyyou can run KDE on a mac? wtf07:55
yellowdartcyberbuddy: yeah, there are many ways actually...you can get it through fink...or install kubuntu (or pick your flavor *nix/bsd) or virtual pc07:57
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cyberbuddylook at this guy: *can i paste links here?*07:57
LeeJunFancyberbuddy: sure.07:58
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cyberbuddyhttp://www.deviantart.com/view/9754542/07:58
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LeeJunFanomg - that's some resolution.07:59
jagerkde on macosx is just weird07:59
jageraqua rules my face though08:00
cyberbuddyhaahah08:00
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cyberbuddyi have a 19 inch LCD08:00
cyberbuddy1280x102408:00
cyberbuddythat guy has like two08:00
LeeJunFanyeah, I'm running 1680x1050 on my lappy.08:01
jagermmm i'd love to trade my 19" crts for lcds08:01
jagerthat's be kickass08:01
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cyberbuddy1680x1050, damn08:01
yellowdart2880x1200 is what i've got...08:01
cyberbuddyholy crap rich people08:01
jager2560x1024 dual display08:02
cyberbuddyyellowdart, how big is your screen?08:02
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yellowdart1600x1200 (19") and 1280x1024(17")08:02
Tm_Tnow only 17" with 1400x105008:02
cyberbuddyi wish my 19 inch did more.08:02
cyberbuddyhave a dell e193fp08:02
jageri can run 1600x1280 but it hurts my eyes08:02
jager60 hz :(08:03
cyberbuddyhahaha08:03
cyberbuddyjager, ebay your monitor and invest in an LCD08:03
Tm_Tjager: I always use 60Hz08:03
jagerbut they are twins!08:03
yellowdarti'm running my 1600x1200@7508:03
Tm_Tcyberbuddy: LCD isn't always better08:03
jagerand twin 19" lcds will cost Real Money08:03
LeeJunFanno it isn't.08:03
jagermore than i'd get for these things surely08:03
LeeJunFanslow refreshes suck.08:03
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LeeJunFanfor games anyway.08:03
Tm_TLeeJunFan: nah, slow eyes is all you need ;)08:04
jagerhaha08:04
yellowdarthehe08:04
Tm_Tgames?08:04
Tm_Tgames?08:04
Tm_Tall you need is irc08:04
jhealeyhello08:04
Tm_Tirc almighty08:04
LeeJunFanno, I need longbow and operation flashpoint.08:04
sampanirc is multiplayer notepad08:04
jhealeycan I get help?08:04
cyberbuddymy friend was running halflife, cs, warcraft3, doom on his kubuntu box08:04
sampan(thanks to bash.org)08:04
cyberbuddynever knew you can on linux08:05
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yellowdartyeah, games? i dont think that curse of monkey island is THAT demanding hehe08:05
Tm_Tcyberbuddy: ET, wesnoth... Freeciv!08:05
Tm_Tyellowdart: aye08:05
LeeJunFanquite a few will run on wine, and quake will run native linux.08:05
jhealeyi'm having issues with a matrox card under kubuntu, only displays 640x48008:05
jhealeyanyone have any ideas on how to fix that?08:05
cyberbuddyany other big games running natively on linux?08:06
yellowdartjhealey: what driver is loaded in /etc/X11/xorg.conf08:06
jhealeyum, dunno08:06
jhealeymachine is down08:06
jhealeymga i believe08:06
jhealeywhat should it be?  It is an old school G400 single, 16MB08:07
yellowdarthmmm...sounds about right...i'd check ubuntforums.org though to see if anyone has a similar setup08:07
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yellowdartjhealey: or if you're not trying for "impressive 3d" you can try 'vesa'08:08
jhealeyno 3d nes boeded on thi08:09
jhealeyi dont' need 3d08:09
jhealeyhow do I change to vesa08:09
jhealeywill 2d be sharp?08:09
yellowdartin the xorg.conf there will be a line that sas "Driver" "mga" or something like that...just change mga to vesa08:10
yellowdartjhealey: yeah, sharpness is based on your monitor08:10
jhealeyi'll try that yellowfart, thanks08:11
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kkathmanlol yellowfart???08:11
jhealey??08:11
duckdownHey all, isn't there a way to apt-get the win32codec package? I can't find it after my new install08:11
kkathmani thing its yellowdart (d  not   f)08:11
jhealeyaaaaa, sorry yellowdart08:12
jhealeythanks for your help08:12
kkathmanotherwise he wont get a highlighted message :)08:12
LeeJunFan!codecs08:13
ubotuBinary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories08:13
yellowdartno prob08:13
duckdown!easysource08:13
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:13
duckdownneet08:13
duckdownthanks08:13
kkathmanhiya duckdown :)08:13
duckdownhi kkathman sir :)08:14
hawkingI can watch wmv movies under totem but not kaffeine...what should i do for kaffeine wmv support?08:15
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yellowdartholy cripes...2:20...gotta be at a meeting tomorrow morning08:16
LeeJunFanhawking: first thing I would do is install kaffeine-xine and set kaff to use the xine engine.08:16
duckdownis upgrading to KDE 3.5 really as easy as adding the repository to the sources.list and upgrading?08:16
duckdownfrom breezy?08:16
LeeJunFanhehe, I know I have to get the kids on the bus in 4 hrs.08:16
LeeJunFanduckdown: it's pretty easy - you need to do a dist-upgrade though. And personally I would just stick to 3.4, less boogs.08:17
yellowdartLeeJunFan: funny thing is...meetings are the only reason i go to the office...so i have to worry about this like once a week...and it still catches me off guard. hehe08:17
jageri didn't do a dist upgrade to get 3.5408:18
duckdownLeeJunFan: Lots of SIGSEGVs huh08:18
jager3.5.0 that is08:18
yellowdartjust wait til april...3.5 is in dapper :)08:19
LeeJunFanduckdown: not too many, but enough dumb stuff. Like I can't send pages from konqueror to kmail, if sound previews is turned on in konqueror it segs when you hover over ANY icon. etc.08:19
jagerah from breezy nm08:19
LeeJunFanjager: really? you may have more minimal KDE. Some libs won't go right if not dist-upgrade08:20
kkathmanduckdown: FWIW,  I just upgraded to KDE 3.5 last week. There were a couple of minor glitches, but overally it went smoothly for me08:20
yellowdartaight.. i'm gonna pretend to try and sleep now...later08:20
LeeJunFanyellowdart: gnight.08:21
jagerlet me play with sound previews, just for kicks08:21
kkathmanduckdown: and yes, you add the source to your sources.list, download the gpg key for it, then do and update and dist-upgrade.08:21
LeeJunFankkathman: bah, don't need the gpg key. hehe08:21
LeeJunFanas long as you don't mind apt b1tching about it every time you run it.08:21
kkathmanLeeJunFan: well you do, if you use Riddell's source in kubuntu.org, I'll put it that way08:22
kkathmanits a good key to have anyway08:22
jagerhmm crashola08:23
duckdowncrap.. that souces-o-matic list is giving me some GPG errors saying the public key isnt available08:23
jagerit tells you how to import the key at the top of the page IIRC08:25
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hawkingI got kaffeine-xine but still can't play wmv files08:33
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frank23hawking: did you choose kaffeine-xine in the player?08:34
hawkingI did08:34
frank23player engine: kaffeine right?08:34
LeeJunFanwell, gnight everyone. I think I might be able to squeeze 4 hrs sleep before I have to get up.08:35
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abionnnnbad sleep does more harm than good in my experience08:36
hawkingfrank23 : exactly08:36
abionnnnthough you do add a few hours to your day08:36
abionnnnthe rest drop in quality :P08:36
frank23hawking: do you have KaffeinePart written in the bottom right corner?08:36
hawkingfrank23 : yup08:36
frank23what heppens when you try to play a wmv?08:37
hawkingfrank23 : just the program shuts down08:37
LeeJunFanabionnnn: yeah, problem is I had a headache earlier and took excedrine migraine - caffeine boosted me so I'm not sleepy. Problem is tomorrow after bad sleep I'll probably have another headache from not getting enough sleep.08:38
frank23hawking: not sure what the problem is08:38
frank23going to sleep08:38
hawkingfrank23 : maybe I should run it on cmd line lemme see08:38
hawkingnite08:39
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duckdownEven though my sound is working, kaffeine wont play mp3s because it says it needs a decoder to handle the stream.  Can someone tell me what I need?08:50
LeeJunFanduckdown: libmad0 I think.08:50
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duckdownLeeJunFan: cool let me try that, thanks08:51
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duckdownNewp, that didnt do it :(08:52
duckdownohh had to switch to xine engine08:54
duckdowngstreamer doesnt work apparently08:54
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Steilheh09:30
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hawkinganyone who got heroes 3 running under linux?09:50
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fatejudgerwith what program can I download images from my digital camera?10:17
robotgeekfatejudger: it might launch as soon as you connect your camera10:19
fatejudgerwell I connected10:19
fatejudgerthe camera10:19
fatejudgerand it didn't launch10:19
jagerdigikam?10:19
fatejudgerjager: works beautifully, thanks10:25
jagernp10:25
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paineshi10:34
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jagerhi paines10:37
jagerhow goes it10:37
painesfine, you ?10:38
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painesis dapper flight 2 worth a try as a day to day working anvironment, or better not cause to many gltiches / broken things10:40
jageri'm on 5.1010:42
jagerso i dunno10:43
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painesic10:45
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JakubSpaines: i use dapper for quite a long time and it just works11:03
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fatejudgeris the audigy 2 nx compatible with Kubuntu?11:04
viviersfdont say that fatejudger11:08
viviersfrather ask11:08
viviersfis it compatible with linux11:08
painesJakubS, nice11:08
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digiYay! Got Kubuntu working! :)11:18
JakubSif i only got suspend working i would be dancing on the streets ;-)11:18
digiThis is quite a nice distro!11:18
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digiRunning on a laptop?11:18
JakubSyeah, fujitsu-siemens amilo pro v801011:19
digiI'm running on a Toshiba Sat s2400 - touchpad doesn't work properly so I use an external mouse11:19
JakubSoverall good machine but having to do full bool every time drives me bananas11:19
digiBut I don't really need suspend - Kubuntu restores the session upon reload11:20
JakubSyeah, but you need to wait for boot11:20
digiyeah - he boot time is ridiculous11:20
digithe*11:20
JakubSi cut it by using initng instead of init11:20
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digiI'm sure I saw ways to speed it up on the ubuntu forums11:20
JakubSbut of course it cannot beat resume from ram  time11:20
digiAll of the included apps are quite nice11:22
JakubSomg, i have 4 different kdelibs source trees on disk, good thing it is quite big :-)11:22
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digiKubuntu seems to eat my laptop battery though11:24
JakubSi didn't notice - i get 3.5h no problems11:26
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JakubSdigi: what kind of laptop - centrino?11:27
digip411:27
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digimy laptop battery is weak to begin with11:27
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digibut Windows has really good battery saving techniques11:28
digiok - need to install mySQL - what package do I install?11:29
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bimberidigi: mysql-server11:30
digicheers11:30
bimberi!lamp11:30
ubotuwell, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP11:30
bimberidigi: ^^^ might be worth a read :)11:30
JakubSdigi: well, cpu frequency changing, maybe disk spindown11:31
digithanks - I already installed apache11:31
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knubbenote: install apache2 - not apache11:31
knubbeif youre installing from apt that is..11:32
digirighteo! Thanks!11:32
digihmmm...unmet dependencies!11:32
JakubSdigi: try echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode - it will try hard to avoid disk usage therefore making it use less power11:32
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digijakubS: Permission denied11:33
JakubSwell, as root of course :-)11:33
digihave done11:33
JakubShow exactly?11:34
digisudo echo 1 > /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode11:34
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JakubShehe, sudo makes 'echo' run as root but not redirection :-)11:35
JakubSsudo bash is needed11:35
JakubSthen you have 'real' root11:35
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digisorry - can I get that wiki url again please?11:38
digianyone...?11:40
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bimberidigi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP  ???11:41
digithanks!11:41
bimberidigi: yw :)11:42
digishould I be worried that my filesystem is ext2? I heard ext3 is alot better?11:43
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JakubSdigi: if your system never crashes or reboots without shutting down system then there should be no difference11:46
digiOk thanks - I heard that searching isn't as good though due to there being no journaling system?11:47
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JakubSsearching? journal is there to prevent filesystem corruption on power loss (or similar) - when system has no chance to write out buffers11:48
digijakubS - okay - thanks!11:48
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dpyhi11:49
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digiSorry for all of the questions - but is BlueFish really the best web dev tool?11:49
dpyis there a way to upgrade from debian etch to kubuntu ?11:49
JakubSdigi: try quanta11:49
digihow do they compare?11:49
JakubSdpy: hm, replace repositiories in apt.source add preferred distro to apt.conf and try apt-get -u dist-upgrade11:50
JakubSit might completely trash your system and make it unbootable11:50
dpywhere are the kubuntu apt mirrors ?11:50
dpyI only see ISOs11:50
JakubSdon't try to hunt me down then11:50
visik7dpy: kubuntu is ubuntu so use ubuntu mirrors11:51
dpyI can't find ubuntu mirrors either11:51
dpyonly ISOs11:51
JakubSdeb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu dapper universe multiverse11:51
visik7dapper ?11:51
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JakubSnewest development version (not even beta)11:52
dpyuh11:53
dpyisn't there anything stable ?11:53
bimberidpy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive11:53
digiso when can we expect Dapper?11:53
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bimberidigi: April11:53
digisweet11:53
bimberihopefully :P11:53
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JakubSdpy: i use it for months now without (too many) problems11:54
digithere are quite alot of bugfixes expected I hope11:54
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dpyhmm..11:56
dpyapt-cache search can't find any 2.6 kernel11:56
digiYou're not using the 2.6 kernel?11:57
dpyno11:57
dpyand it fails to upgrade the 2.4 kernel11:57
dpyso I wish to upgrade to 2.6 kernel11:57
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dpygrrr11:59
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dpywhy can't I find a new kernel anymore11:59
digihmmm.trying to remember how I updated11:59
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diginew to all of this11:59
digisudo apt-get update / sudo apt-get upgrade12:00
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dpyoh12:01
dpyyou need both breezy and dapper sources12:01
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_henrikHi! I've just installed Kubuntu 5.10 with the 2.6.12 kernel.  I've got two soundcards, a stupied motherboard-card and one M-audio audiophile 2496 card. The problem is that KDE only plays from the onboard card, not the M-audio card! What's wrong?12:06
digidisable the onboard soundcard12:07
_henrikOk. Is that possible from the BIOS? I've heard that Kubuntu still finds it anyway.12:07
_henrikI will try that, thanks for your help!12:08
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digiAnyone get their iPod workin?12:12
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Tallia1Kubuntuhi,12:16
Tallia1Kubuntuhow can i add a whole directory to the path?12:17
dipnlikhi all. trying to install wine, added the repo in wine's hp, but apt-get update returns me "Ign http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages". why?12:18
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bimberidipnlik: "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/"  (ie. did you include the "apt/" bit?12:25
dipnlikbimberi: yes I did12:25
bimberidipnlik: k, just checkin' :)12:26
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dipnlikbimberi: can you please apt-get update now to see if the problem is only here?12:26
dipnlik(don't know, maybe it is a server problem..)12:27
bimberidipnlik: k, stand by...12:27
dipnlikok, thanks12:28
bimberidipnlik: hm, mine is up-to-date - you could try downloading the package directly and install using dpkg ...12:29
bimberidipnlik: http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/binary/wine_0.9.5-winehq-1_i386.deb12:29
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dipnlikbimberi: ok, will try that, thanks12:31
dipnlikbimberi: it would be dpkg -i package.deb ?12:32
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bimberidipnlik: yes.  well actually "sudo dpkg..."12:33
dipnlikbimberi: k, thanks12:35
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chemajaugh, 15MB JRE! I soo need broadband.12:44
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JakubSapt-get upgrade wants over 500MB, i'm so doomed :-)12:44
Hobbseeouchy12:45
Hobbseewhy dont you get broadband then?12:45
chemajai'm getting it.12:45
Hobbseeoh good!12:45
chemaja:)12:45
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chemaja(was waiting for my credit card to first be approved, which just happened :)12:45
Hobbseeah, i see12:46
chemajai've been mooching my work's spare pstn dial-up account12:46
JakubSoh well, laptop is not a big problem as i can upgrade it at uni tomorrow12:46
chemajafor like... a year.12:46
dipnlikhi. i followed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently for non-password protected shared drives and still the drive does not get mounted automatically, altough sudo mount -a works fine. can anyone help me?12:46
chemajanow it is time... for p2p pr0n! er, i mean... kubuntu apt-gets!12:46
Hobbseehehe12:47
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chemajaHobbsee, you really should apt-get upgrade at least the security distro ;-)12:48
Hobbseehehe nah, i did that, i was meaning all the p2p stuff :P12:48
chemaja(hence the winkie)12:48
Hobbsee;) thought so12:49
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tictricis there a video editor available to do some cutting?01:09
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CyberMadhow to install proftpd in kubuntu?01:09
tictricapt-get install proftpd01:09
tictricor whatever's the package name01:09
CyberMadthanks.. i guess i need to add multiverse and universe... :)01:10
tictricyes, you need :)01:10
CyberMadyes..01:11
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redguywhat happened to "project" tab and menu in kate from KDE 3.5 ?01:12
chemajaredguy: perhaps it's one of those /usr/share/kubuntu-default-settings overrides01:12
chemaja(i'm running 3.4.3)01:12
redguyhrm01:13
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redguychemaja: no reference to kate in there :/01:15
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chemajaredguy: i assume you've checked settings >> configure kate, and kate's homepage?01:20
chemajaredguy: s/homepage/handbook01:20
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CyberMadtictric, are you there i am adding multiverse universe to sources.list, hmm.. looks like this time is different because i just need to add to first line, is this correct?01:23
CyberMadhttp://pastebin.com/50803801:24
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redguychemaja: yup. The handbook doesn't mention projects at all, but the homepage has screenshots showing it. Also I remember using it when I had 3.4.301:24
CyberMadi believe there are the other lines to add..01:24
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CyberMadi try apt-get update and return error01:25
CyberMadthe others is in comment :(01:26
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redguythis sucks01:27
dipnlikhi. does kubuntu support parallel port scanners?01:29
CyberMadsorry i forgot set it to connect to the internet :(01:29
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tictricCyberMad: mine looks like that http://pastebin.com/50804301:30
inc|stonehi what means: Error: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?01:30
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CyberMadyup.. it's work now :)01:35
naliothinc|stone: does the program start?01:35
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CyberMadbtw tictric is it ok if i use your sources.list? does it affect something?01:38
inc|stoneno nalioth01:38
naliothinc|stone: what program is it?01:38
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DieMumieehi01:39
inc|stoneamule01:39
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naliothinc|stone: how did you install it?01:40
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inc|stoneapt-get install amule01:42
naliothinc|stone: is it a console or graphical program?01:43
inc|stonei hope both? :P01:43
naliothinc|stone: i dont run it, that's why im asking. how did you start it?01:44
inc|stonei know graphical, but i think consloe too01:44
inc|stoneamule01:44
inc|stonestone@sbox:~$ amule01:44
inc|stoneError: Unable to initialize gtk, is DISPLAY set properly?01:44
inc|stonethats what i get01:44
inc|stonebrb01:45
tictricCyberMad: shouldn't be a problem. but I can't guarantee :-)01:45
CyberMadhow to find package name of Pure FTPd ?01:46
CyberMadnot proftpd.. :)01:46
inc|stoneftpd :)01:47
tictricpure-ftpd01:47
CyberMadthanks01:47
inc|stoneoh sry i mean..01:47
CyberMadbtw, sorry... which one better? proftpd or pure-ftpd :)01:47
naliothinc|stone: lemme install it and i'll see what happens01:47
CyberMadi mean... what do you recommend?01:48
tictricthat would have been ~# apt-cache search 'pure.*ftp'01:49
tictricbtw :-)01:49
naliothinc|stone: it IS a graphical app, do you have ubuntu installed, btw?01:49
CyberMadtictric what do you use? proftpd or pure-ftpd ?01:49
CyberMadand what do you recommend... maybe you can tell me why?01:49
tictricneither :-) I only load with scp01:50
CyberMadscp?01:50
tictricman scp01:50
tictricI'm glad if I'm able to help. But I can't read for you too :-)01:51
CyberMadyes,.. i just need a clue.. :) that's already help me so much01:51
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redguychemaja: it seems that the kate team removed this functionality in kate 2.5 :/01:59
redguychemaja: http://wiki.kate-editor.org/index.php/News if you're interested...01:59
DjDarkmanhy ,i can`t start xmms ,i get this error in the console Segmentation fault ,what should i do?02:00
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BokManHey folks, how do I allow file sharing on my local network in Kubuntu?02:01
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chemajadoes #kubuntu have a bot like #ubuntu (ie. "ubutu")?02:13
naliothubotu: tell chemaja about yourself02:14
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inc|stoneim using kubuntu nalioth02:22
jjesseif i used nano under sudo and now get an error message each time i try to use it again about permission denied for history02:22
jjesseis there a history file i need to remove?02:22
naliothinc|stone: well, i'm using ubuntu and it came right up, have you tried xmule? or starting it another way?02:23
inc|stoneim at the moment not at home i only can test it per ssh...02:23
jjessealso another question, i need to use kaudiocreator and need lame to convert to mp3 but ic an't find lame in apt-get install lame02:23
inc|stonejust i need the console version02:24
naliothinc|stone: well, if you are not at home, it's not gonna work. it's a gui program02:24
inc|stoneshit :)02:24
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naliothinc|stone: barnyard language won't help you here02:25
naliothubotu: tell jjesse about repos02:25
naliothjjesse: enable universe and multiverse repos02:25
naliothjjesse: update your apt-get, and then you should find lame02:25
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jjessehmm i cold have sworn i have both enabled02:25
jjessedoh my fault thanks nalioth02:27
inc|stonety nalioth02:28
naliothinc|stone: np, share the help02:28
naliothjjesse: enjoy!02:28
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jjesseone other question, is there a way to convert .ogg into .mp3s so i can use them on my ipod?02:30
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Hobbseejjesse: you'll lose masses of quality if you do02:31
jjesseso i should rip them into mp3 again instaed of .ogg?02:31
djdarkmanhy ,i have a serious problem ,kde doesn`t want to start02:31
djdarkmanhow do i start it?02:31
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tictricdjdarkman: why doesn't it want to?02:31
djdarkmani dunno ,the last thing i did is try to configure the nvidia driver02:32
djdarkmanbut i get no error msg02:33
naliothjjesse: yes, ogg >> wav >> mp302:33
djdarkmanand only the text mode login apears02:33
tictricso, X isn't starting?02:33
jjessenalioth: through kaudiocreator or ?02:33
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naliothjjesse: there are dozens of tools to do it02:34
djdarkmanwell it doesn`t02:34
jjessebest one? ssorry i'm kinda n00b when it comes to audio stuff like this02:35
djdarkmanhow should i try to start kde?02:35
naliothjjesse: if kaudiocreater does it, use it. i dont do sound things much, sorry02:35
naliothdjdarkman: at your console, type "startkde"02:35
djdarkmanit says something that it can`t open display02:36
djdarkmani can`t scroll back :(02:36
tictricand if it still doesn't start type ~# less /var/log/Xorg.0.log02:36
tictricand find out what's missing02:37
djdarkmanhmmm ok02:37
tictricthere will be something like [EE]  somewhere. or so.02:37
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djdarkmanyes i saw something like it02:39
tictricso, what's missing?02:39
djdarkmanit says:02:40
djdarkmanscreens found...02:40
djdarkmanbut none have usable configuration02:40
tictricthe nvidia modules have been loaded?02:40
djdarkmanyes i think so02:41
tictricpackage nvidia-glx is installed and so is linux-restricted-modules-xxxx ?02:41
naliothdjdarkman: i have a solution that will get you into a GUI02:42
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djdarkmannalioth tell me please02:42
djdarkmantictric nvidia-glx is installed02:42
naliothdjdarkman: in a console, type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and choose the VESA video driver02:42
djdarkmanbut the other one ,i have to chek that02:42
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tictricbut that won't work if you have manually edited xorg.conf02:43
tictricso if you have follow the steps described in xorg.conf02:44
tictricbtw, you don't need the vesa driver *nv* will be fine as well. That always works02:44
djdarkmanit doesn`t work now02:46
djdarkman:(02:46
tictricwhat have you tried?02:46
djdarkmani selected nv02:46
djdarkmanand typed startkde02:47
tictrictype less /etc/X11/xorg.conf02:47
naliothtictric: i suggest the 'one that works', dunno anything about 'nv'02:47
tictricif he edited xorg.conf manually it doesn't get changed by dpkg-reconfigure so it's still the broken config working02:48
djdarkmanhow come?02:48
jageri had to reboot each time i edited xorg.conf when i installed kubuntu last02:48
jageri still don't know why02:48
jagerkdm restart didn't do it02:48
tictricread xorg.conf from top02:49
tictricreading is essential02:49
jagercntrl alt backspace either02:49
djdarkmanso maybe i have2 reboot?02:49
jageri'd try it, i was shocked i had to but nothing worked until i did02:49
djdarkmanok02:50
jagerhope i didn't just waste his time02:50
tictricno, read the first about 20 lines in xorg.conf carefully02:50
jagerhaha02:50
tictricit's written there.02:50
jageri nuked kubuntu's xorg.conf in favor of my own02:51
jagerwhat's it say?02:51
tictricor just go down to Section "Device" and change "nvidia" to "nv"02:52
jagermaybe i backed it up02:52
tictricthat's it02:52
jageri've never had so much trouble wth x02:52
jageri use the same xconfig all the time02:52
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jageri never did determine why it didn't load mine until i rebooted02:52
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DjDarkmanok it worked02:53
jagerwtf. right?02:53
jagerbeats me02:53
tictricI'm impressed :-)02:54
DjDarkmanyes ,but i still have problems with the nvidia and kde02:54
jageri'm not, there's no way you should have to reboot for that02:54
jageryou using the nv driver DjDarkman?02:54
DjDarkmanyes02:54
jagerchange it to nvidia in xorg.conf and reboot again :(02:54
tictricwhy reboot? is that windows or what?02:55
jagerassuming you've got it installed like these guys said02:55
jageri kep saying i don't know tictric02:55
jagerbut that's what i had to do02:55
jageri went through exactly what he's going through and it irritated me no end02:55
tictric /etc/init.de/kdm restart would do as well02:55
tictricoops02:55
jageryou would think so, but nope02:56
jagernot for me02:56
DjDarkmanwhat drivers should i use via apt?02:56
jagerapt-get install nvidia-glx02:56
jagerit's in universe or multiverse, i forget which02:56
tictricand linux-restricted-modules-xxxx02:57
DjDarkmanxxxx?02:57
tictricxxxx <-- your kernel, man02:57
DjDarkmanok02:58
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DjDarkmanbut theres a lot ,wich is for my pc?03:00
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jagerin konsole type uname -a03:00
jagerand there will be a number like 1.6.12-9-386 or something03:00
jagerlook for the one that matches that03:00
DjDarkmanok found it03:01
jagercool beans03:01
DjDarkmani dind`t have linux.....legacy driver03:01
DjDarkmanand it think that that is what i need03:01
jagerwhat sort of gfx card do you have?03:01
DjDarkmancoz i have an mx44003:01
DjDarkmangeforece mx44003:02
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jagernah i have a geforce 2 mx and i used the normal one03:02
jageri think legacy is for tnt2 etc03:02
jagerand vantas03:02
DjDarkmanhis package only provides the kernel driver for the NVIDIA 'legacy' kernel driver, which provides support for TNT, TNT2, GeForce, and GeForce2 chipsets. More restricted modules, including that for newer NVIDIA cards, can be found in the linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-386 package.03:02
jagerhaha i've been known to be wrong from time to time :)03:03
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DjDarkmanjager: maybe youre right ,you were right about the restart after all03:04
jageri just looked, i installed linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-9-38603:05
jagerfor my geforce 203:05
jagerymmv of course03:06
jageris that card like an original geforce or something?03:06
jagerthat model you threw out made me think it was a geforce 403:06
DjDarkmangeforce 4 is essentialy geforce 203:07
DjDarkmanwith a few improvements03:07
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jageryeppers03:07
tictricmsi says it's geforce 403:08
jageri'd go with linux-restricted-modules-2.6.12-10-38603:08
jagerif it were me03:08
jagerif i'm wrong you can publicly mock me :)03:08
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jagerthis whole nvidia driver fork has annoyed me, i liked the unified driver architecture thing they had going on03:09
DjDarkmanyes it was good ,but no more03:10
jager:(03:10
barbiedarkhi guys!03:10
jagerhi barbiedark03:10
DjDarkmanhi barbiedark03:10
barbiedarkI have a question about gaim....03:10
jagerfire away03:10
DjDarkmanyes barbiedark ask it03:11
barbiedarkIs it possible to see the msn personal emoticons?03:11
jageryou mean those annoying fullscreen flash things?03:11
barbiedarkno no03:11
DjDarkmanbarbiedark: i don`t think so ,only the basic03:12
dipnlikjager: yes and no03:12
jagerit's been so long since i actually used the official msn client i dunno what you mean03:12
jagerhaha03:12
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dipnlikjager: the surely annoying things are the winks03:12
dipnlikjager: personal emoticons are emoticons you configure and that are sent to the person you're chatting with03:13
dipnlikjager: these are USUALLY annoying, but not everytime ;-)03:13
jagermmm if gaim has a feature like that i don't know about t03:13
barbiedarkthat's qhat I mean, dipnlik!03:13
barbiedark*what03:13
dipnlikbarbiedark: not that i use gaim, but i don't think it has the feature03:13
barbiedarkok, thanx...03:14
dipnlikbarbiedark: maybe kopete has, but i never used it03:14
dipnlikbarbiedark: kopete or amsn are clients you should take a look at03:14
barbiedarkI tried it some weeks ago....03:14
barbiedarkbut I couldn't see the personale emo...03:14
barbiedark:(03:14
jageri'm using kopete atm03:15
jagerand i just looked for this feature and failed to find it03:15
jagerperhaps amsn has it but i dunno03:15
barbiedarkok03:16
barbiedarkand... I need some help for another problem...03:17
dipnlikbarbiedark: go ahead03:17
jagerNO WE DON"T HELP NEWBS DIE DIE03:17
jagerhaha03:17
dipnlikLOL03:17
barbiedarkI would like to connect the pc with my phone (LG u8360)... I try it but... it doesn't work03:18
barbiedark(I use linux only since few months)03:19
jagerusing bluetooth?03:19
barbiedarkyes03:19
jageralas i've never used bluetooth03:20
barbiedarkasd03:20
dipnlikbarbiedark: i need to search a little about BT too, have a Nokia 6600 and want to sync it with kontact03:21
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barbiedarkok03:22
dipnlikbarbiedark: can you at least send and receive files using the BT software included in kubuntu?03:22
barbiedarkomg... I don't know03:22
dipnlikbarbiedark: i usd it without a problem last time i tried, plugged the BT dongle and voila03:22
dipnlikbarbiedark: sad i don't have the dongle here right now03:22
barbiedarkI have the internal dongle...03:23
dipnlikbarbiedark: try the software included, try to send and receive files to see if at least the connection is ok03:24
barbiedarkwhich sw?03:25
dipnlikbarbiedark: kbtobexclient, IIRC03:27
barbiedarkI don't have none of them, and I can't install them using apt-get install :(03:29
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satemplerdose prelink realy help much03:59
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satemplerdose prelink realy help much04:02
satemplerin reguards to speed04:02
satemplerimprovement04:02
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nlindbladhello04:05
satemplerhey04:06
avusatempler: if it does what it's supposed to, it only helps with application startup times04:06
avusatempler: there are benchmarks out there showing how much a gain you can expect04:07
avusatempler: http://www.gophernet.org/articles/prelink.html for example compares startup times of some applications with and without prelink04:08
satempleravu: ok thanks04:08
satempleravu: other than enableing DMA on my CD rom drive is there a way to speed up Encodeing or have Konquer make artist and album folders automaticly04:09
avusatempler: I don't rip CDs.04:10
satempleroh ok thanks04:10
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dipnlikhi all. i printed an html file to pdf and the characters are not aligned. in acrobat reader characters are blurry. how can i solve this?04:12
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mika0800Hi, does someone know: does Kubuntu 5.10 breezy come with 2 or more kernels or only with the 2.6.12 mentioned in http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=kubuntu04:25
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seashell11mika0800: it installs with only one, but you can install more with apt-get04:26
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mika0800seashell11, if I install kubuntu (which comes with 2.6.12 kernel), can I downgrade by installing 2.6.10 using apt-get? if I can, will downgrading the kernel break something else ?04:34
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seashell11mika0800: why would you wnat to downgrade? but I have both 2.6.12-9 and 2.6.12-10 installed and I can start up with either and it doesn't break anything. Some packages might depend on 2.6.12 then they wouldn't run with 2.6.10, but I don't know if any do for sure. If some do I don't think very many would stop working.04:37
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seashell11but if wome don't run with 2.6.10 you can always boot back into 2.6.12 and they should run fine again04:38
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seashell11wome == some04:39
mika0800I want to run Kylix3, and anything newer than 2.6.10 will break Kylix3 IDE's integrated debugger. So I must either downgrade the Breezy's 2.6.12 to 2.6.10 or use Hoary instead, which alredy comes with 2.6.10 kernel.04:40
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seashell11you could try breezy with 2.6.10, there is a good chance everything would work right.04:41
mika0800is the 2.6.10 apt-gettabe with breezy by default or do I need to change something ?04:41
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seashell11ill check quick, im running breezy so ill see in synaptic04:43
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FoodcomanMorning04:47
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seashell11mika0800: I don't find the 2.6.10 kernel image in breezy apt-get04:51
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mika0800so it well need quite a much manual hacking do do it...04:55
seashell11after you install breezy you should be able to type in kdesu kedit /etc/sources.list (sudo gedit /etc/sources.list) then change all the places it says breezy breezy to hoary. In terminal type in sudo apt-get update, install the 2.6.10 kernel image, then go change hoary back to breezy04:56
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mika0800I wonder if that creates much compatibility problems... are such hacks safe or should I just install Hoary instead ?04:58
zenonIs there a diff between kubuntu/ubuntu in server mode ?04:58
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seashell11I don't know?? you can install hoary and upgrade to breezy then you still have the 2.6.10 kernel04:59
nlindbladzenon: no04:59
nlindbladzenon: they share the same base system04:59
seashell11zenon: if you do a server install you will not get any desktop05:00
seashell11unless you install it yourself05:00
zenonthanks05:00
nlindbladzenon: it's possible to do a Kubuntu install using an Ubuntu CD and the other way around05:00
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seashell11yep I do it all the time, never bothered with getting me a kubuntu cd05:01
nlindbladzenon: server-install, then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:01
seashell11nlindblad: ain't it just server? or does server-install work too?05:03
nlindbladseashell11: when I say server-install I mean the boot: server thingy05:03
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seashell11oh I catch on05:03
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zenonHas anyone tried the server release of Ubuntu ?05:05
redguyyup05:05
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nlindbladzenon: the server release is the usual one but without the desktop05:06
nlindblad(and some other stuff)05:06
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DjDarkmanhy ,what is Segmentation fault?05:10
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redguyDjDarkman: it means that the program being run tried to access a memory address it is not suppodes to access.05:11
redguyDjDarkman: in other words it means: the program has crashed05:11
DjDarkmanok redguy i get this from xmms amarok and from a game in cedega05:11
redguys/suppodes/supposed/05:12
DjDarkmanand my openglide doesn`t work05:12
DjDarkmanso this gives me a lot of hell ,can you please tell me how to sort this out?05:12
redguyDjDarkman: so you can say that xmms amarok a game in cedega crashed05:12
redguyDjDarkman: I don't really know :-)05:12
DjDarkmanredguy: but they always crash05:13
DjDarkmani start them and they crash05:13
DjDarkmanis this normal?///////05:13
redguyDjDarkman: no'05:13
housei have been becoming more interested in kde and am wondering what are some of the benefits over gnome05:14
DjDarkmanis it possible because of bad settings in xorg.conf05:14
ccc_house: you have to try it yourself to tell05:14
ccc_house: it's all a matter of taste05:14
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DjDarkmanhouse: the games run perfectly if u dont get hell from an nvidia driver05:14
DjDarkmani don`t wanna reinstall my kubuntu ,but i can`t do nothing like this ,can you help me?05:15
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ichanybody care to help with a glx question?05:34
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eliteforcehey, someone here with wlan knowledge05:37
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prxqHello. It seems to be impossible to configure keyboard bindings in the kde that comes with kubuntu. What am I missing?05:40
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hyperactivecrondhelo all05:44
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hyperactivecrondif i want to do something like s/breezy/dapper/g; to a bunch of files on the command line how does one do this in perl from a command line05:57
derekS_hyperactivecrond: i don't follow05:57
hyperactivecrondif i do sudo perl -e 's/breezy/dapper/g;' baz             where baz is the file perl does nothing05:58
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derekS_i use python05:58
hyperactivecrondhow would one do this in pyton then?05:59
hyperactivecrondpython05:59
derekS_what are you trying to do05:59
hyperactivecrondchange all instances of breezy in a file to dapper05:59
derekS_http://diveintopython.org/regular_expressions/06:00
hyperactivecrondok06:01
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jorgpis there a printer howto some place, when I add a printer via cups, what is the login and password?06:09
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PupenoL! w32codecs06:16
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install06:16
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dutchieevening all ... has someone managed to get Java applets to work in Konq ?06:17
dutchieI've read loads of howtos with no good results06:17
larsividutchie: some.. but not all, especially newer ones06:18
dutchieI got Sun's 1.2 and IBM's 1.3 .... no luck06:18
dutchieI'd like to enable the java console to debug06:18
larsiviI'm using blackhats java06:18
dutchiebut the setting seems to have disappeared from Konq's Java settings pannel06:18
dutchiehm, I'll try them then06:18
larsivibut have only tried the 1.3 version yet06:18
larsivior is it black down? anyway, they are the recommended choice for linux06:19
larsiviI've downloaded the 1.4 version, but haven't installed it yet06:19
seashell11larsivi: do you not like firefox? I have java working in firefox.06:21
larsiviseashell11: I don't like firefox in linux, it also seems to accelerate the memleak in gam_server06:22
larsivialso firefox isn't entirely integrated in KDE06:23
seashell11larsivi: I havn't had any problems, and you can change settings in kde to make it be lpretty well entirely intigrated with kde06:24
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seashell11larsivi: but i guess, each person has his own prefferences lol06:25
larsiviseashell11: whenever I run firefox (everytime I need to use my bank), I need to start kill gam_server or restart, unless the system get so unresponsive that it almost hangs06:25
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larsiviAnd I think Konqi is great for everything else06:26
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larsiviI seldom need the java support06:26
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seashell11that hasn't ever happened to me, and I just don't like the way konqueror is set up and runs. but this is kind of off what you were wanting help for. I can't help you much with java and Konqueror since I have never attemted to get it running06:27
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dutchiehas the "show Java console" option disappeared from Konq's Java panel ?06:31
dutchieor should I start a Java console from the cmd line ?06:31
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larsiviseashell11: I didn't ask for Java help :) dutchie did06:32
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seashell11Oh OK, but I still can't help ;-)06:32
larsiviseashell11: the gam_server bug is a well known bug in breezy, but more commonly found on Ubuntu06:33
larsiviwill be fixed in dapper06:33
larsivithat is, the next version of gam_serer06:33
dutchieso until then I have to run Firefox ?06:33
dutchieok, thanks guys06:33
larsividutchie: no, I'm talking about the problem I'm having with Firefox :)06:34
seashell11larsivi: That's good it's going to fix it, but luckily i havn't ever had a problem with it06:34
dutchieok, then is it even possible *in theory* to run Java inside of Konq ?06:34
larsiviseashell11: often my computer must be turned on overnight before I get real problems06:35
larsividutchie: Yes, I do06:35
dutchieblackdown ?06:35
dutchieI'll go check that ouut06:35
seashell11mine has an uptime of 4 days 19 hours right now :-P06:35
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dutchiewooh, 4 days ;-)06:36
seashell11it ain't much right now, but bfore that it was almost 2 months06:36
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seashell11for a desktop06:36
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Paradosso I'm running kubuntu, and kwin just does not remember the special window settings I set; any hints on why this could happen?06:38
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DaSkreechDoes kubuntu have a KwickJot pad or some such?06:51
DaSkreechperferably katapulted :-)06:51
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satempleris KDE 4 going to be availible for Dapper06:53
_StarScreamsatempler: i doubt it06:53
satemplerlike KDE 3.5 is for Breezy06:53
_StarScreamKDE 4 is a long way off06:53
_StarScreamit barely compiles06:53
satemplerya ok06:53
satemplerwhat about Xorg 706:53
bhnasatempler: kde 3.5 is for dapper and 3.4.3 fpr breezy06:54
DaSkreechKDE4 is a loooong way off06:54
DaSkreechLike Vista Long Way off06:54
satemplerya but the packages are availble for breezy06:54
hyperactivecrondsatempler: you're thinking 3.406:54
satemplerwow06:54
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satempler3.5 on the web www.kubuntu.org06:55
satemplerthere are breezy packages06:55
satemplerfrom kubuntu06:55
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seashell11I am running kde 3.5 on breezy on one of my computers06:57
satempleri guess they are not supported by the offical Ubuntu or Kubuntu ?06:57
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jjessewhat do you mean they are not supported by ubuntu or kubuntu?06:58
satemplerwhy wouldn't they be with the main updates06:58
jjessekde 3.5 is in dapper and i think Riddell backported it to Breezy?06:58
satempleras far as my understanding of backports they are not official06:59
satemplerso we won't see 4 until late this year07:00
bhnasatempler: breez came out with kde 3.4.3. the kde 3.5 packages are updates. kde 3.5 is original in dapper07:00
DaSkreechRight07:00
satemplerbhna: so they are supported07:00
satemplerDaSkreech: so maybe by 6.1007:00
Riddellsatempler: they are supported by Kubuntu07:01
satempleroh ok07:01
seashell11ubotu: tell seashell11 about dapper07:01
Riddell(which means I make the same security and major bugfixes to them that the packages in ubuntu's archives get)07:01
satempleroh cool07:01
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satemplerRiddell: if kde 4 comes out around bout august (like vista lol) will you backport them07:02
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simohey07:02
DaSkreechsatempler: I'm sure that Packages will come out for 6.10 I wouldn't bet on BY 6.1007:02
simoive got a litte problem..07:02
satempleroh07:02
Riddellsatempler: as DaSkreech says07:02
satemplerok07:02
simoi cant play .mpeg / .avi files on kubuntu,  how to do that or is it even possible ? :)07:03
satemplerso by Nov or Dec07:03
satemplerdang I wana see a screen shot of plasma07:03
satemplerlol07:03
tictricsimo: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=mpeg07:03
Riddellplasma hasn't been written yet07:03
satemplerso arts will be gone in Dapper07:03
satemplerdang07:04
satemplerok that tells me more07:04
simotictric: thanks!07:04
satemplerthanks07:04
tictricthanks07:04
DaSkreechsatempler: appeal.kde.org and Visit every week :)07:04
satemplerok is there an rss for it07:04
DaSkreechNothing to put on it yet07:04
DaSkreechoh KDEdevelopers.org might have info07:05
satemplerok07:05
dutchieme again ... can I use BlackDown's JVM plugin in Konq ?07:05
dutchieor should I let Konq invoke it through calling "java"07:06
satemplerweird question07:06
satemplerxcompmgr sucks right07:06
pointwoodarts gone in dapper?07:06
dutchieah, really ? there are potentially two options to using this JVM07:06
satemplerya07:06
dutchieI'm asking which one is most appropriate ?07:06
pointwoodwhat replaces it?07:06
satemplerthey are working on somthing new07:06
satemplerin dapper gstreamer is replaceing it07:07
pointwoodk07:07
dutchieanyone ? anyone ? Bueller ?07:07
pointwoodI thought that wouldn't be before KDE407:07
DaSkreechMna I just replaced GStreamer07:07
dutchieI guess I'll go try both options07:07
DaSkreechpointwood: Thats Ubuntu Nothing much to do with KDE07:07
pointwoodthe media situation is a mess currently07:07
satemplerDapper is getting ready for the transistion07:07
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satemplermay be kdemm (the new frame work backported for 3.5) if its ready by then07:09
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satemplerits on the Dapper road map07:09
satempleri use xine for amarok and kaffeine07:10
satempleri use kmplayer for things that mplayer would take care of in Firefox07:10
satemplerlike apple.com/trailers07:10
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larsivisatempler: kdemm was just renamed phonon :) see todays planetkde07:11
satempleroh damn07:11
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larsivinote that Xine has non-free issues meaning it can't be included on CDs07:12
pointwoodthe problem is probably caused by myself, but currently, I get no sound in videos on video.google.com07:12
satemplerlarsivi: no xine is included on cd but without mp3 playback07:12
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satempleror libdvdcss07:12
larsiviwell, mp3 is sortof essential07:13
satemplergstreamer now has support for it07:13
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larsivithe problem is that Xine apparently use patented algos07:13
satemplera free version07:13
DaSkreechPeople say the same about Windows07:13
satemplerwhen did this happen07:13
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satemplerya I need mp3 support07:14
pointwoodthe joy of software patents07:14
satemplerright07:14
amigravekdebindings is not in kubuntu ?07:15
_david_How stable is Dapper Drake flight 2? And I am wondering. If I install DD F2 will that one update it self along the way until it is complete at the date of release?07:15
satemplerbut as i said gstreamer has found a way to play mp3s without patent issues07:15
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satempler_david_: Dapper Drake is unstable to make it usable07:16
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_david_satempler: to bad.07:17
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pointwoodsatempler: isn't kdemm/phonon a "high level interface" to the engines themselves07:17
satemplerjust wait till march07:17
satempleroh07:17
dutchiehas anyone managed to make BlackDown Java work inside of Konq using the path to "Java executable" ?07:18
_david_I tried to install opensuse, but what a crap compared to k(u)buntu...07:18
satemplerya it is07:18
pointwoodwill gstreamer .10 be the default in the next release or will it take longer than that to implement support for that?07:19
pointwood_david_: really? I've heard good things about opensuse07:19
satempler_david_: though you can update to 3.507:19
pointwoodwhat's so crappy about it?07:19
_StarScreampointwood: yeh i gave opensuse a go the other day07:19
_StarScreami quite liked it07:19
_StarScreamit was very polished07:19
pointwoodyeah07:20
_StarScreama little sluggish to boot up07:20
_StarScreambut nice07:20
pointwoodI don't boot that often :)07:20
satempleri don't like opensuse kittchen sink approach to things07:20
_StarScreamwell me either07:20
pointwoodmy kubuntu install is a bit of a mess, but when you play with fire... ;)07:20
_StarScreamsatempler: ? its less kitchen-sinky than fedora or RH07:20
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_david_pointwood: actually I am using opensuse super and although it boots "fast" I don't like the yast2. Maybe I am too used to apt-get07:21
pointwoodkitchen sink approach? in what way?07:21
satempler_StarScream: I don't use KDE in FC or RH07:21
satempler_StarScream: but ya I don't like the bloat in eather07:21
pointwood_david_: ahh...k and yes, apt-get is nice07:21
_david_Talking about booting... will dapper use the initng thingie?07:21
satemplerthats why I like kubuntu07:21
DaSkreechOh Riddell07:21
DaSkreechAny word on EFI support?07:22
satemplerya I wana here some one put kubuntu on the MacBook Pro07:22
_StarScreamsatempler: as soon as they do i'll buy one :)07:22
pointwoodwell, the devs should be able to get one07:23
pointwoodbefore they can test it07:23
_david_pointwood: opensuse super use by default delta isos, but they didn't work. I had to dig around until I found that I had to disable the delta iso installation07:23
satemplerthe kernel already has support for it07:23
pointwooddelta isos?07:23
satempleryou would use egrub i think07:23
pointwoodnever heard of that before07:23
satemplernever mind grub already works with EFI07:24
satemplerelilo is what i was thinking of07:24
_david_Delta ISOs allow to download a small file instead of downloading the07:25
_david_complete ISO if you have the previous ISO07:25
pointwoodahhh07:26
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_david_pointwood: if it worked things probably would be faster, but...07:27
DaSkreechsatempler: Grub2?07:27
satemplerRiddell: is klik going to be in Dapper07:27
DaSkreechI don't think *buntu uses grub207:27
pointwoodI installed opensuse not too long ago in a VM and it installed without a hitch07:27
satemplerDaSkreech: not shure07:27
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satemplerhow can you quiry a deb07:28
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satemplerfind out it's version07:29
satemplerlike grub07:29
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_david_anyone know if asyncronic bootup will be implemented in kubuntu?07:30
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pointwoodgpl3 draft has been released07:31
pointwoodhttp://software.newsforge.com/article.pl?sid=06/01/16/1729220&from=rss07:31
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DjDarkmanhy ,can somebody give me a sources.list?07:32
darkheart!tell DjDarkman about repositories07:32
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satempler!repositories07:33
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:33
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satemplerRiddell: is there an update to amarok 1.3.7 to .807:35
DjDarkman10x ubotu07:35
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satemplerRiddell: 1.3.8 fixes alot bugs07:38
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Yonhey all07:39
tech9inerso mates.. anyone ever getta clue on wy yast installed konversation for me but added no main menu icons anywhere for it please?.. thanks07:39
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Yonis there a better program that can connect to msn other then Instant messager Kopete?07:40
apacheloggerRiddell: around?07:40
satemplerapachelogger: he was07:40
apachelogger:|07:40
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apacheloggerany ideas when amaroK 1.3.8 builds will be available for breezy?07:40
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satemplerapachelogger: thats what i was asking07:41
larsivitech9iner: yast? what about apt-get? and konversation is part of the base Kubuntu install07:41
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larsiviYon: I think Kopete works great, but you could try KMess or gaim for a gtk program07:41
apacheloggersatempler: ah, no anwser .... well, he knows that there is a new version, since I mail most package builders07:42
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Yonthere is alot of extras os msn that kopete doesnt have07:42
tech9inerlarsivi: mea culpa rofl.. yast is wrong channel.. rofl.. i meant via synaptic..07:42
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DaSkreechYon: Like?07:42
larsivitech9iner: anyway, if you use Kubuntu, Konversation should be there by default07:43
satemplerapachelogger: could i change my repo from amarok-1.3.7 to amarok-latest07:43
apacheloggertech9iner: you mean theres i no entry in kmenu?07:43
satemplerapachelogger: then all i would have to do is an update right07:43
apacheloggersatempler: you could, though it won't make a difference yet ;-)07:43
YonDaSkreech,  there is plenty, like the flash smiles and the nudging07:44
DaSkreechIt can nudge07:44
DaSkreechTry Ctrl+G07:44
satemplerapachelogger: oh i know but when it dose come out I don't have to change my version numbers in my repo again07:44
larsiviand flash smile from msn to kopete, although the other way round don't work07:44
Yonnothing happens07:44
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Yon:/07:45
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apacheloggersatempler: right07:45
mistik1hello07:45
bruno!source-o-matic07:45
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic07:45
mistik1what's the name of the xorg package in kubuntu07:45
_StarScreamxserver-xorg07:45
_StarScreamafaik07:45
mistik1I'm upgrading from another debian and cant seem to locate that package07:46
C-O-L-THobbsee:?07:46
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mistik1Is there some other package i need to pull in before xserver-xorg will be available07:46
mistik1?07:46
tech9ineraye that apachelogger .. not one single icon anywhere.. internet submenu.. nuttin honey ;] 07:46
C-O-L-Thow to install .sh files?07:47
satemplerC ya guys07:47
apacheloggertech9iner: open konsole and enter 'kbuildsyscoca' without the ''07:47
larsivitech9iner: does katapult find it? Alt+Space, then type Konversation07:47
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tech9inerkbuildsyscocabash: kbuildsyscoca: command not found07:49
tech9inerhmmm.. apachelogger ?? > kbuildsyscoca> bash: kbuildsyscoca: command not found07:49
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apacheloggerO.o07:49
tech9inerdamn.. wrong  boxen.. look mates.. lemme go get me 2nd cup o java.. bugger'n every comm till then twould seem..07:50
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C-O-L-Thow to install .sh files07:50
apacheloggerone doesn't install them07:50
apacheloggerone executes them07:50
apachelogger.sh is a bash SCRIPT07:50
apacheloggerC-O-L-T: ./[file] .sh07:51
apacheloggerdot slash filename ;-)07:51
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hawkingwhat package do i need for KDE headers?08:16
hawkingkde-devel this one ? or smth other08:16
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apacheloggerhawking: kdelibs-devel08:21
apacheloggerkdebase-devel08:21
hawkingk08:21
hawkingthx08:21
apacheloggererrr08:21
apachelogger-dev ;-)08:21
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hawkingDoes anyone has any idea why I can't get my headphones working in my laptop? that's weird08:27
DaSkreechplug them in?08:27
cryptomHi all, for quite some year I've been compiling my own kernels, at least a year with make-kpkg under debian and now under breezy. But now, either I am doing something wrong or there might be a bug in "kernel-package"08:27
cryptomI get lots of modprobe errors while booting the initrd image08:28
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hawkingDaSkreech : already plugged... gives no voice08:28
hawkingbut they are workin on windooze08:28
cryptomwhen I manually open the initrd file and execute a depmod -a, rebuild the initrd image, everything works fine08:28
cryptomI have to add: I use the kernel from kernel.org, not the [k] ubuntu packages08:29
cryptomam I the only one to experience this behavior?08:30
seashell11hawking: try opening kmix and disabling or enabling the external amplifier and other switches. messing around with kmix on my laptop finally got both speakers and headphones working08:30
hawkinglet me try08:31
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melonipoikahi08:37
melonipoikai have some problems with usb hard disks08:37
cryptommelonipoika, what kind of problems?08:37
melonipoikashould i add any line to fstab?08:37
melonipoikawhen i start the computer, they are found as sca1, sca2, etc08:38
melonipoikaand they are not mounted properly08:38
melonipoikaif i unplug it and plug again, the partitions are found as scb1, etc08:38
melonipoikaand i can mount them08:38
cryptommelonipoika, hmm, I just booted once, having my usb drives already connected... think it went pretty much the same way...08:39
cryptommelonipoika, now I always connect them, when the system is up08:39
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melonipoikai add lines in the form "/dev/sda1 /media/usbdisk auto..." and the same for the scb case08:40
melonipoikaah, ok08:40
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melonipoikaso then maybe that is all what i have to do, but i was wondering if it is possible to make it nicer08:40
cryptommelonipoika, I just tried it once, and I dont remember the details (the problem), anyone here with the same behavior?08:41
melonipoikaand i have also problems when trying to open the system:media in system menu, but i can access everything if i just write /media/, is there any way to repair this?08:41
melonipoikai couldn't find anything in google, maybe i should look more...08:42
fridgeis there a way to use win32 codecs under 64-bit ubuntu?08:43
cryptommelonipoika, I dont use konqueror much, I used to do everything in the shell (I used debian with windowmaker for years), so I dont know about media:08:43
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fridgetrying to build mplayer from source, it's telling me that win32 dll support won't work under  x86_6408:44
fridgemakes sense, but I'm wondering if there is any workarounds?08:44
didiernetwg11t.inf08:45
melonipoikaok, thanks08:45
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benplautanyone know how to make scrolling on the pager start at one, and stop at 4? the desktop looping is driving me nuts08:48
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DaSkreechm0ns00n: Hello08:49
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omerix i have used z600 driver for lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, it is working now but only print, it doesn't scan. How can i scan in this multifunctional printer?08:53
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DaSkreechm0ns00n: Are you familar with Adept?08:56
bobaloowould anyone be willing to help me get kubuntu live cd to load on my laptop?08:57
DaSkreechhuh?08:57
bobalooit goes through the detecting hardware part08:58
bobaloothen comes to a $ prompt08:58
DaSkreechAh08:58
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bobaloojust sits there08:58
DaSkreechwhat happens when you type ls?08:58
bobalooi had no idea what to type08:58
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bobalooim new to linux08:59
bobaloowhat is ls08:59
fridgeit lists the files in the current directory09:00
DaSkreechright09:00
fridgeusually, if you don't know what a command does, type 'man command'09:00
DaSkreechI jsut want to know if you are on a normal prompt09:00
DaSkreechthe $ seems to indicate that09:00
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bobalooit says something like ubuntu@ubuntu: $09:01
DaSkreechYeah that sounds remarkable like the Xserver did'nt start09:01
bobaloothe only error i noticed was it didnt sync the clock09:01
jagerwhat's startx say when you try it?09:02
bobalooim completely new to linux so i dont even know what startx is09:03
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DaSkreechbobaloo: We'll explain it to you in a bit :)09:03
bobaloook09:03
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DaSkreechbobaloo: you have the laptop on now?09:06
bobalooya09:07
DaSkreechWhat happens when you type startx?09:07
bobaloowell id have to boot the live cd and see09:07
DaSkreech:-)09:07
bobalooim in windows atm09:07
jageronly one computer?09:07
DaSkreechOh you are using it now?09:07
jagerdrat09:07
jagerthat makes things ever so much harder09:08
bobaloo:\09:08
seashell11bobaloo: just a little peice of advice: If you have a problem or question you can always try searching google for your question, put a post in www.ubuntuforums.com or www.linuxquestions.org, and there is lots of documentation on wiki.ubuntu.com.09:08
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bobalooi searched the kubuntu forums09:08
bobaloocouldnt find anything09:08
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bobalooive got an ati 200m in this lappy09:09
bobaloocould it be hardware related09:09
seashell11:-) have fun with ubuntu if you get it running. And I ain't saying you should have looked more, I was just showing you were some of the websites were for future reference.09:09
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bobaloothank you09:10
bobaloo:)09:10
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bobalooill boot up my other pc so i can boot the live cd on this09:10
DaSkreechPossible but we would need some more info09:10
DaSkreechHooray!!09:10
MonkethOk, WINE on Kubuntu x64, how would do this?09:11
jagertip the bottle over the cd, and pour :)09:11
jager(no idead)09:11
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DaSkreechMonketh: That sounds like something that you would get an answer from the WINE guys faster09:12
MonkethOk,09:12
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bob1111ok09:13
bob1111im booting the laptop into kubuntu09:13
DaSkreechhi bob111109:14
bob1111:)09:15
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mth`MAWmoin09:16
bob1111k it says temporary failure in name resolution09:17
bob1111now its at the prompt09:17
bob1111ubuntu@ubuntu:~$09:18
bob1111i typed startx09:18
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bob1111fatal IO error 10409:19
DaSkreechok09:19
DaSkreechtry pwd09:19
bob1111says /home/ubuntu09:19
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DaSkreechWell it boots :-)09:20
DaSkreechHmm Ok How much RAM does the laptop have?09:21
P3L|C4N0hi people09:21
DaSkreech/afk09:21
fatejudgerI thought jackd had its own IRC channel09:21
bob11111Gb09:21
bob1111but 128 is shared with the gpu09:21
fatejudgerthat's dynamic09:22
bob1111ya you can share 32, 64, or 12809:23
bob1111ati 200m09:23
fatejudgerwhat is the name of that irc channel with those crazy Linux audio experts?09:25
seashell11fatejudger: you could try #lad09:26
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fatejudgerseashell11: thanks09:26
seashell11i don't no if this is right but an irc seardh brought that up09:26
bob1111so do you think its the ati card thats preventing me from going any further09:27
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vytautasi'm searching for the applet to change the encoding09:27
DaSkreechIt's Possible09:27
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bob1111that sucks09:28
bob1111maybe i should try another distro09:28
seashell11bob1111: did you order the cd or is it one you burned if you burned it are the md5sums correct?09:28
bob1111i burned it09:28
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bob1111how would i go about chekcing the md5sums09:29
DaSkreechDo you have md5sum?09:29
bob1111neg09:29
fatejudgerseashell11: I think everyone is afk in #lad09:29
DaSkreechgoogle md5sum.exe09:29
bob1111on it09:29
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DaSkreechthen run it on the command line and follow that by the path to the Kubuntu ISO09:29
seashell11fatejudger: yea I went on there and it looked kinda dead09:30
fatejudgerseashell11: I asked them some questions about jackd a few months ago and about 5 people answered me09:30
bob1111can i take the kubuntu disk out of my laptop without screwing anything up09:31
fatejudgerbob1111: are you installing Kubuntu right now?09:31
seashell11bob1111: I think you will have to restart the live cd session09:31
bob1111ok09:31
fatejudgerohh, he's using the Live CD09:31
bob1111ya09:32
seashell11fatejudger: yea and it won't start X09:32
fatejudgerthe Live CD has some problems09:32
fatejudgerdo you have a Dell laptop?09:32
bob1111hp09:32
fatejudgerwell a lot of these manufacturers use some pretty non-standard parts09:32
DaSkreechfatejudger: pretty much all laptop parts are Non standard09:33
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DaSkreechInteerfaces yes. Parts. No09:33
fatejudgerDaSkreech: that's not quite accurate09:33
fatejudgerDaSkreech: but many parts are, yes09:33
fatejudgersound cards and video drivers and the big ones09:33
fatejudger*video cards09:34
bob1111k how exactly do i run md5sum09:34
bob1111im retarded in that area09:34
vytautasi'm searching for the applet to change the encoding, where could i find it?09:34
DaSkreechmd5sum \path\to\iso09:34
fatejudgerif he's running the live cd the iso isn't broken09:34
fatejudgerhe'll need to install the full install to get it to work09:34
fatejudgerit supports laptops far better09:35
DaSkreechcan't config XServer09:35
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bob1111md5sum.exe \G:09:35
DaSkreechG:\Kubuntu.iso09:35
fatejudgerhe should also check to make sure he has the latest laptop drivers09:35
bob1111ohh wait09:36
fatejudgermany manufacturers have only recently started supporting Linux09:36
bob1111am i checking the cd or the actual iso file09:36
fatejudger*bios09:36
fatejudgerdamn, I'm just off today09:36
mistik1Is there a documented proceedure for upgrading from debian to kubuntu?09:37
fatejudgermistik1: it doesn't work that way09:37
fatejudgermistik1: Kubuntu is so much different that debian that you'd just have to wipe your partition and install Kubuntu09:38
seashell11bob1111: with linux you can check the cd, but with windows maybe you can only check the .iso file09:38
DaSkreechbob1111: ISO file09:38
bob1111ok :)09:38
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mistik1fatejudger: I understand that, but i'm almost at a full ubuntu now, I cannot see why I cant apt-get my way the rest of the way09:40
mistik1But there are no docs for this distro09:41
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DaSkreechSwedish_Chef: ?09:42
bob1111fuck it i give up09:42
DaSkreechThe Swedish_Chef?09:42
seashell11mistik1: just change your sources.list file to the ubuntu sources the apt-get to update09:43
fatejudgermistik1: you can't do it09:43
fatejudgermistik1: the kernels are different09:43
fatejudgermistik1: everything is different09:43
fatejudgermistik1: just back your stuff up and format09:43
seashell11fatejudger: I have read that you can do it.09:43
bob1111thanks for your help guys09:43
bob1111appreciate it09:43
mistik1I cannot do that09:43
fatejudgerseashell11: you can't do that09:43
DaSkreechYOu can't get a MD5sum on the ISO?09:43
seashell11bob1111: no prob09:43
fatejudgerseashell11: even if it did try and do it, it would break stuff09:43
mistik1If I could I wold have done a reinstall long ago09:44
fatejudgermistik1: why can't you format?09:44
mistik1because I have everything setup in a build area and want to just update that build area09:44
seashell11fatejudger: I read somewhere that you could change from debian to ubuntu09:44
seashell11by apt-get09:45
mistik1Its not installed as normal on a box09:45
fatejudgermistik1: I don't understand09:45
fatejudgermistik1: you'll have to give more details09:45
mistik1ok09:45
mistik1I built a livecd based on debian sarge, now I just want to upgrademy master copy to [k] ubuntu09:47
mistik1this is why I cant just boot the cdrom and go to town09:47
mistik1It has to be doable from a chroot09:48
C-O-L-Tdoes exist skype video call 2.0 for Linux?????09:48
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murray_hello ...09:48
murray_anyone point me at how I control the fan in a sony vaio laptop?09:49
murray_nobody?09:51
jagersorry murray_ i have no idea :(09:53
murray_thanks anyway :)09:53
murray_random "kubuntu rocks" comment ...09:54
murray_ :)09:54
jagerkubuntu rocks!09:55
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nlindbladjager: yeah!09:56
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karnak# ubuntu-it10:01
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dutchiepeople, what's the script where I can set environment variables for a user ? bashrc ?10:12
dutchie.bashrc ?10:12
dutchieaha login.defs !10:12
nlindblad.bashrc10:12
nlindbladuse: export variable="value"10:13
dutchiethx10:13
nlindbladand it will be system wide10:13
murray_also worth a look : .profile and .bash_profile (may not all apply to kubuntu)10:13
dutchieI prefer the latter10:13
dutchiethanks10:13
nlindbladmurray_: why wouldn't it apply to Kubuntu?10:13
dutchiethanks, later10:14
murray_I typically find 2 out of three (.bashrc, .bash_profile and .profile) on various *nix boxes ... I've never figured out which applies to which... )10:14
murray_I would guess .bash_profile and .profile are equivalent, but I really don't know ...10:14
nlindbladrc-files are for more non program-specific things10:15
murray_and what is interactive vs non interactive logins anyway?10:15
murray_crontab vs ssh ?10:15
nlindbladthe profiles are more for customizing Bash itself10:15
nlindbladmurray_: ssh-logins can be non interative10:16
nlindbladssh user:password@host10:16
nlindbladthat applies to most protocols10:16
murray_ahh yes indeed...10:17
nlindbladbut it's rather nasty10:17
nlindbladyou always want interactive logins10:17
murray_which reminds me, you can add commands to .ssh/authorized_hosts that limits what commands a given key can run.10:17
murray_thought that was rather clever/smart/handy ...10:17
nlindbladthat way cleartext passwords won't end up in your .bash_history10:17
nlindbladmurray_: that is clever/smart/handy10:18
nlindbladmurray_: but it requires some time to setup10:18
murray_quite ... someone tell that to psql / sqlplus / etc ;)10:18
murray_surprisingly little I found ... once you have your head around ssh_keygen etc10:18
murray_and it is sooo worth it for the warm fuzzy glow you get re: security10:19
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murray_kinda like having iptables drop ssh connections from everything other than known ip blocks :)10:19
nlindbladI used to be a big fan of security10:19
nlindbladbut at some point I realized what security is all about10:19
murray_lol, now?10:19
nlindbladsecuriy is really about choosing what risks you're willing to take10:20
nlindblads/securiy/security/10:20
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murray_ahhh ... probability vs cost10:21
nlindblador functionality vs security10:21
murray_quite ... then you get into pragmatics, and all hell breaks loose ;)10:21
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nlindbladthe case is often this: you add in tighter security, but that limits you're functionality so you get bad habits of bending the rules10:22
murray_sshfs was another recent find10:23
nlindbladfor example, when you're too lazy to look up exactly what file a user needs permission to you do chmod -R a+rwx somedir/10:23
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murray_slightly redundant within a home network, but I appear to be able to play my divx movies in vlc via the sshfs mount to a local/wireless server, so kinda fun and so easy...10:24
murray_if only samba was so easy ....10:25
nlindbladsshfs isn't always worth the security though10:25
nlindbladit decreases throughput with 90%10:25
nlindbladin most cases10:25
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murray_granted ... I just found it a load easier than getting samba correctly configured10:25
nlindbladdepending on various things, of course10:25
murray_yup, it's nice when you can be 90% inefficient and not have to care ;)10:25
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nlindbladwith todays harddrives you really can't afford it10:26
murray_benefits of virtual ... yes I realise technically it's using a little more power ...10:26
nlindblad*todays'10:26
murray_can't ?10:26
nlindbladeven if you have a 1Gbps LAN at home10:27
nlindblad90% would leave 100Mbps 'efficient' bandwidth10:27
murray_all I meant was that rather than scp, I can use sshfs and start watching *now*10:27
nlindbladbut since you don't get 1Gbps from A to B in the first case that's not true10:27
murray_and the capacity of the wireless is fast enough to shovel the bits such that I can watch the video without stuttering/pauses/gaps10:28
nlindbladmurray_: yeah, but when the bitrate of the movie goes over the efficient bandwidth here will be problems10:28
nlindblads/here/there10:28
murray_pessamist ;)10:28
nlindbladI know10:28
nlindbladI'm trying to be more happy10:29
nlindblador atleast pretend to be10:29
hawkingoh yeah! I made my headphones work!! :)10:30
seashell11hawking: how did you finally do it?10:30
nlindbladmurray_: but I'm glad you've found a quick _and_ secure solution for it10:30
nlindbladseashell11: evening10:30
hawkingseashell11 : I did what this man did : http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76307&highlight=laptop+headphone10:31
hawking:)10:31
hawkingcompiled new alsa10:31
seashell11yea same to you nlindblad10:31
nlindbladseashell11: what timezone are you in?10:31
seashell11eastern how about you?10:32
nlindbladGMT +110:32
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nlindbladCEST10:32
hawkingeverything instead of kmail and kcheckgmail works great10:32
nlindblador whatever the short for it is10:32
murray_heads back to trying to figure out how to control the fan on this vaio ...10:32
seashell11nlindblad: its 4:30 here10:32
nlindbladseashell11: oh10:32
nlindbladseashell11: 22.32 here10:33
nlindblad~3310:33
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seashell11ok yea I guess that would make more sense 16:33 here10:33
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seashell11so good afternoon10:33
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jageris there a kicker app that tells you when/if you have new mail in your gmail box?10:34
ill0gical0neanyone know how to enable spdif output?10:34
Arcanimusjager, "GMail Notify"10:35
jagerstock in 3.5?10:35
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Arcanimusthere's an RPM on the repositories i believe10:35
jjesseis there a graphical partitioner for kubuntu?10:35
jageri see it thanks10:35
jjessethat is after i get it installed10:35
jagerqtparted10:35
jrattner1Anyone having problems with the amarok package in the repositories?10:35
nlindbladjjesse: qtpart10:35
jrattner1it wont open10:35
nlindbladjjesse: although I'd recommend switching to runlevel 1 or use a Live-CD to edit partitions10:36
jrattner1?10:36
nlindblads/to edit/while editing/10:36
jjesseok10:36
jagergmailfs - Use your GMail account as a filesystem <--- that's pretty damn cool right there10:36
nlindbladjrattner1: amarok won't open after you've installed it?10:36
jrattner1nlindblad, it used to work, but now since i ran update manager it will no longer open10:37
jrattner1it gives the following error message10:37
jagerit's a pretty old version, 1.3.1 and 1.3.7 is stable10:37
jrattner1amaroK could not find any sound-engine plugins. amaroK is now updating the KDE configuration database. Please wait a couple of minutes, then restart amaroK10:37
jageri've been meaning to upgrade it10:37
jagerdid you install all the gstreamer lugins etc?10:37
nlindbladnite all10:37
jrattner1everything10:38
jagernite nlindblad10:38
jrattner1it tells me to recompile from source10:38
jagerwtf mate10:38
jageri'm using it now, listening to smashing pumpkins, works fine here10:38
jrattner1any clues? I use it all the time10:38
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jagerdoes xmms work?10:38
jrattner1hold on10:38
jagerrgr10:38
jrattner1yes10:39
jagerfigures10:39
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jagercan you even get it to stay open long enoughto look to see what engine it's using?10:39
jageramarok i mean, not xmms10:39
_thiagoeu sou novo aqui10:39
jrattner1let me open it from command line then ill show you whats going on10:39
_thiagoalgm me entende?10:39
jrattner1on paste bin10:39
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_thiagohey peaple10:40
_thiagoI'm new here10:40
jrattner1http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/50881510:40
_thiagoI know speak english less10:40
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jrattner1jager, any clue?10:41
jageryour disk isn't full is it?10:42
jagerwhat are your permissions on /var/tmp/kdecache-jrattner/ ?10:44
jagermine:10:44
jager-rw-r--r--   1 jag  jag  909661 2006-01-14 21:30 ksycoca10:44
jrattner1no its no where close10:44
jrattner1drwx------   6 jrattner jrattner 4.0K 2005-11-03 16:33 kdecache-jrattner10:44
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jagerhm what about ksyscocoa in that dir?10:45
jrattner1should i chmod 655?10:45
jagerthat's what mine says, and that should be fine10:45
jrattner1-rw-r--r--   1 root     root     1057854 2005-11-03 16:33 ksycoca10:45
jagerroot eh?10:45
jrattner1i guess10:45
jrattner1shoudl i chown jrattner:jrattner10:46
jageryes10:46
jagerbet that fixes it too10:46
jageri'm sort of surprised that's the only broken thing actually10:46
jagerlooking at those perms10:46
ill0gical0neanyone know how to get to the alsa terminal mixer?10:46
jrattner1it worked10:47
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jrattner1jagger thanks10:47
jagercool beans10:47
jagermy pleasure10:47
jagerill0gical0ne: does aumix do what you want?10:48
ill0gical0nealsamixer10:49
ill0gical0ne..im dumb10:49
jagerhaha10:49
jagerme too then10:49
jager:)10:49
ill0gical0neim trying to get spdif output..10:49
ill0gical0nebut it's being gay10:49
jageri know nothing of spdif alas10:50
jageri've never had a sound card that was quite that nice :)10:50
ill0gical0nelol10:50
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satemplerRiddell: here ?10:55
Riddellsatempler: hi10:57
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satemplerRiddell: any word about amarok 1.3.8 ?10:57
Riddellsatempler: it's in dapper10:57
john_hello10:58
satemplerRiddell: what about breezy ;)10:58
Riddellsatempler: I don't have access to kubuntu.org just now so I can't put up packages for breezy10:58
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charwoodsatempler: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=993910:58
satemplerRiddell: oh ok10:58
Riddellor update the website for flight 3 etc10:58
melonipoikahi guys, i would like to try dapper in my external usb hard disk, does anyone know a good howto?10:59
robotgeekmelonipoika: mac or x86?10:59
melonipoikax8610:59
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robotgeekmelonipoika: does your system support USB booting?11:00
melonipoikayes11:01
melonipoikamy main doubt is what to do with grub11:01
melonipoika(where to install it, in the usb or in the main hard disk)11:01
robotgeekmelonipoika: on the usb11:01
melonipoikaok11:01
robotgeekmelonipoika: i'll give you a nice link too, wait11:02
melonipoikaand anything related to the booting? i have many partitions11:02
melonipoikaok, thansk11:02
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melonipoikathanks, sorry :D11:02
robotgeekmelonipoika: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8081111:03
melonipoikathank you very much, robotgeek11:04
robotgeekmelonipoika: i'm trying to get it to work without usb support in the bios :)11:04
melonipoikai have the partitions ready, should i use any special location for the boot files or it can be anywhere in the whole hard disk?11:05
robotgeekmelonipoika: i'm not sure, i havent gotten it working yet. maybe grub handles automagically? that howto is pretty detailed, maybe it has info?11:06
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melonipoikaok, i will check then, it is still loading...11:06
melonipoikathank you, i will tell if it works :D11:06
robotgeekmelonipoika: cool, thanks11:07
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charwoodMy openGL programs don't ever close.11:08
charwoodI can't kill them and they seem to stay open indefinitely.11:08
charwoodtheir windows will disappear, but I can ps -aL and see that they are running and I have to kill the shell that spawns them.11:09
charwoodanyone ever heard of this?11:09
melonipoikarobotgeek: sorry, i cannot load the link you sent me, could you tell me how to look for it in ubuntuforums?11:12
robotgeekmelonipoika: external usb hdd11:12
melonipoikaok, actually it seams that ubuntuforums is not loading either11:13
robotgeekmelonipoika: hmm, google then :)11:13
melonipoikathis is strange..11:13
melonipoikaok, thanks11:13
robotgeekmelonipoika: it's not loading for me too11:13
melonipoikaah, ok11:14
melonipoikathanks11:14
melonipoikaso i will try later then :D11:14
seashell11yea is ubuntuforums down or what? if you google you can load google cache instead of the web page11:14
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seashell11good afternoon kkathman you back to create trouble? :-)11:19
satemplerhow can i use dpkg to update a package11:20
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satemplerI need to upgrade taglib11:20
robotgeekhey kkathman11:21
vectoralphadoes anyone know how to determine a disks volume serial number w/o opening up the computer11:21
satemplerI am compileing from source and when I do a checkinstall i want to upgrade the current package11:21
satemplersame with amarok11:21
robotgeeksatempler: remove the previous package, and then install them11:22
satemplerok thanks11:22
satemplerwhat is the package name for taglib11:23
kkathmanhowdy robotgeek  :)11:23
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kkathmanhi seashell11  well, I try not to create trouble11:24
seashell11kkathman: that good, just giving you a bad time :-D11:25
kkathmanseashell11: lol11:25
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ill0gical0newhat mp3 decoder should i install?11:31
robotgeekill0gical0ne, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats11:31
satemplerill0gical0ne: any will suffice11:32
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melonipoikarobotgeek: i have a doubt about the usb howto, in the step 5 it is said to choose the correct mount point11:33
melonipoikahow do i know what is the correct mount point?11:33
robotgeekwhere ever you installed, /dev/sda1 i guess11:33
satemplerrobotgeek: ok that was a horible idea (about remove the old packages and install the new ones11:34
melonipoikaah, ok11:34
melonipoikathanks11:34
ill0gical0nehmm..11:34
melonipoikaso i will try now :D11:34
robotgeeksatempler: why, what happened?11:34
ill0gical0newhat do i do for akode-mpeg?11:34
melonipoikai hope everything is fine, at least that i don't format the wholde disk by error :D11:34
satemplerrobotgeek: i remove libtag1c2 it removes k3b and kdemultimedia-fioplugins and some other stuff11:34
melonipoikabye!11:34
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fatejudgerwhere is the QT directory located?11:35
satemplerrobotgeek: i did it any way and install taglib-1.4 and they rely on libtag1c211:35
kkathmanrobotgeek: perhaps apt-get -f install, then add back the offending lib?11:35
robotgeeksatempler: hmm, i lost you11:35
robotgeeksatempler: why do you have libtag1c2 , t\i'm worried about the 1c2 stuff11:36
satemplerrobotgeek: k3b and kmultimedia require taglib 1c2 (libtag1c2 pkg name) i need taglib-1.4 for amarok11:37
satempler1.3.811:37
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robotgeeksatempler: you might have to compile all of them, or you could get sneaky and overwrite your install11:37
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satemplerrobotgeek: recompile all of them what is this gentoo or kubuntu11:38
satemplerlol11:38
robotgeeksatempler: hey, you want to be on the edge or not :)11:38
satempleri just wan't to have some fixes11:38
satemplerthere are some major bugs in 1.3.711:39
robotgeekthe fixes for the lyrics?11:39
satemplerand crashes11:39
robotgeekahh, okay11:39
satempleralso the eq11:39
robotgeekmaybe i should use an older version :)11:39
satemplerAhh!!11:40
satempleryou slay me11:40
satemplerok you convenced me i give up on that11:40
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peaceyallhi11:41
peaceyallwhats the defualt kernel that comes with kubuntu?11:41
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robotgeekpeaceyall: "uname -r"11:42
peaceyallrobotgeek, i know that11:42
peaceyallbut on vmware11:42
peaceyallit asks for kernel version11:42
peaceyalli still didnt install it11:42
robotgeekpeaceyall: typing that will give you your kernel version, though i dunno anything about vmware11:43
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peaceyallrobotgeek, no but what is the defualt kernel version that comes in the cd?11:44
robotgeekpeaceyall: hmm, i dunno. sorry11:44
peaceyalloh ok11:44
peaceyallthank you anywayz11:44
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phinhiya11:45
peaceyallhiya11:45
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arafatpeaceyall: i think it's 2.6.12-9-386 in breezy11:49
peaceyalloh ok11:49
peaceyallthanx11:49
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