[01:42] <ttaulman> lionelp, was gone for a while picking up my daughter, wondered if you had any thoughts on that 2 minute login?
[08:28] <ubijtsa> moin moin
[04:13] <Micksa> hah
[04:13] <Micksa> maybe this'll work
[04:13] <Micksa> anyone here manage to get imap over ssl working with uw-imapd?
[04:13] <ubijtsa> no, but dovecot works..
[04:13] <Micksa> dovecot eh
[04:13] <Micksa> hmmm
[04:14] <spike> hey ubijtsa
[04:14] <ubijtsa> lo spike
[04:14] <Micksa> I'm going to have issues
[04:14] <Micksa> I just know it
[04:14] <spike> courier-imaps works too
[04:14] <spike> do does cyrus for what it matters :)
[04:15] <ubijtsa> and since dovecot was available in ubuntu....
[04:16] <ubijtsa> when I migrated to breezy, I kept using it :)
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, as to my questions... you were right there are no tools for lvm on the "install" cd
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, i dont know how the vg's and lv's are created without them though
[04:18] <Xoritor> spike, but the "live" cd has them... so everthing is golden between the 2
[04:19] <ubijtsa> surely the lvm tools are in the install system..
[04:19] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, nope
[04:19] <spike> oh, hello Xoritor
[04:19] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, you drop to a shell and it says no lvm
[04:19] <Xoritor> lol
[04:19] <Xoritor> but it does create and use them
[04:19] <Xoritor> i really liked the installer
[04:19] <ubijtsa> hmm. maybe it pulls in a udeb if you say you want to setup lvm
[04:19] <Xoritor> i dunno
[04:20] <ubijtsa> what command did you try?
[04:20] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, but the live cd has everything
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm
[04:20] <Xoritor> lv
[04:20] <Xoritor> vg
[04:20] <Xoritor> pv
[04:20] <Xoritor> first
[04:20] <Xoritor> vgscan
[04:20] <Xoritor> not found
[04:20] <Xoritor> ok, vgchange -ay
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm vgscan
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope
[04:20] <Xoritor> lvm vgchange -ay
[04:20] <Xoritor> nope again
[04:20] <Xoritor> none of them were there that i saw
[04:20] <ubijtsa> uhm, could be that it uses the lvm shell, so you may have to run /sbin/lvm2 or summat
[04:21] <Xoritor> i did not try lvm2
[04:21] <Xoritor> hmmm
[04:21] <Xoritor> interesting
[04:21] <Xoritor> im used to RHEL and FC systems where its named lvm not lvm2
[04:21] <ubijtsa> do an ls in /{,s}bin and see if there is any lvm tools there :)
[04:21] <Xoritor> and its named lvm in the distor also
[04:22] <Xoritor> on the install cd
[04:22] <spike> lvm2 binary I mean
[04:22] <ubijtsa> to create the lvm pv/vg/lv's you more or less need the lvm tools..
[04:23] <ubijtsa> unless there is some super-script twiddling device-mapper at a *low* level
[04:23] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, thats what i said!
[04:23] <Xoritor> heh
[04:23] <Xoritor> ubijtsa, i was thinking that same thing
[04:23] <Xoritor> i dunno though
[04:24] <ubijtsa> evms can twiddle lvm2 as well, but I doubt the install cd uses that
[04:24] <Xoritor> im not too worried about it
[04:24] <Xoritor> i got it done with 0 data loss
[04:24] <ubijtsa> good stuff :)
[04:24] <Xoritor> kept all my stuff in tact
[04:24] <Xoritor> yea it was really freakin cool
[04:24] <Xoritor> and very little time
[04:24] <Xoritor> one issue i did have was the disk ordering
[04:25] <Xoritor> my normal sda drive became sdc
[04:25] <Xoritor> i have 3 sata drives in this machine
[04:25] <Xoritor> and the raptor usually is on sda... but ubuntu sees it as sdc
[04:26] <Xoritor> not a big deal, but it caused a headache between grub and the bios and ubuntu booting ;-)
[04:27] <Xoritor> i want a multi channel pci express scsi ultra 320 setup on a 4-8 way opteron doing software raid
[04:27] <Xoritor> heh
[04:27] <Xoritor> so i would get full speed to each channel for each part of the raid
[04:28] <Xoritor> no pci bottle necks
[04:28] <Xoritor> not that they are that bad mind you... just im a freak
[04:28] <ubijtsa> get a fastt600 ;)
[04:29] <Xoritor> fastt600?
[04:29] <Xoritor> i am thinking of getting one of those "ram drives" from gigabyte
[04:29] <ubijtsa> ibm storage array, fibre channel
[04:29] <Xoritor> aah
[04:29] <Xoritor> well... there is that
[04:29] <ubijtsa> 50MB/s sustained xfer rate
[04:29] <Xoritor> one of my friends works at netapp
[04:29] <Xoritor> ;-)
[04:30] <Xoritor> i am trying to get her to send me a filer for "testing" ;-)
[04:30] <Xoritor> ahahahahaha
[04:30] <Xoritor> but i dont wanna pay the power bill
[04:30] <maswan> Xoritor: You'd probably be better off on a 2-way opteron, IIRC. Not as much locking overhead in various linux io layers.
[04:31] <Xoritor> maswan, hmm you think so? i have a 2 way.. (well when i buy the second 246 i will) ;-)
[04:31] <maswan> Xoritor: I think so, but I'm not sure. Also, for just pushing bits, that's plenty of overkill cpu-wise
[04:36] <Xoritor> heh
[04:36] <Xoritor> trying to figure out if i want to upgrade to dapper
[04:36] <Xoritor> any of you running it?
[04:37] <Xoritor> of course this is for my workstation not my main server
[04:37] <maswan> tried it out at flight-2, reported a half-dozen bugs, now running breezy with custom kernel
[04:37] <Xoritor> maswan, hmm
[04:38] <maswan> Xoritor: nothing really serious, but kind of annoying. and mostly quickly fixed
[04:39] <Xoritor> still dunno what i want to do
[04:39] <Xoritor> i think ill stick with this for a while
[04:39] <Xoritor> learn more
[04:39] <Xoritor> im not new to linux by any means
[04:39] <Xoritor> but new to ubuntu
[04:40] <Xoritor> so im not 100% sure where everything is, and how it all plays together
[04:43] <beanz> Hello. Does gfs in Breezy US contain the DLM?
[09:34] <GheRivero> his!