=== ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.229] has joined #ubuntu-server === lionelp [n=lionel@ip-128.net-82-216-65.rev.numericable.fr] has joined #ubuntu-server [01:42] lionelp, was gone for a while picking up my daughter, wondered if you had any thoughts on that 2 minute login? === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === henriquemaia [n=henrique@87-196-67-236.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-server === henriquemaia [n=henrique@87-196-107-54.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-server === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === derekS__ [n=derekS@cpe-66-108-44-139.nyc.res.rr.com] has left #ubuntu-server [] === maxtnk [n=maxtnk@83.149.52.8] has joined #ubuntu-server === maxtnk [n=maxtnk@83.149.52.8] has left #ubuntu-server ["] === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === henriquemaia [n=henrique@87-196-107-54.net.novis.pt] has joined #ubuntu-server === Xoritor [n=xoritor@xorit.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #ubuntu-server [08:28] moin moin === lionelp [n=lionel@10.21.96-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === beezly [n=beezly@2001:630:63:16:230:1bff:feb7:2528] has joined #ubuntu-server === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #ubuntu-server === spike [n=spike@unaffiliated/spike] has joined #ubuntu-server === _torkel [n=torkel@217.168.89.109] has joined #ubuntu-server === infinity3 [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-server === infinity [n=adconrad@cerberus.0c3.net] has joined #ubuntu-server === avu [n=jan@2001:6f8:13f7:0:0:0:0:1] has joined #ubuntu-server === ubijtsa [n=ubijtsa@213.208.70.155] has joined #ubuntu-server === Micksa [n=mslade@203-217-18-166.perm.iinet.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:13] hah [04:13] maybe this'll work [04:13] anyone here manage to get imap over ssl working with uw-imapd? [04:13] no, but dovecot works.. [04:13] dovecot eh [04:13] hmmm [04:14] hey ubijtsa [04:14] lo spike [04:14] I'm going to have issues [04:14] I just know it [04:14] courier-imaps works too === Micksa tries [04:14] do does cyrus for what it matters :) === ubijtsa has been using dovecot since he switched to debian, some two years or so ago.. [04:15] and since dovecot was available in ubuntu.... [04:16] when I migrated to breezy, I kept using it :) [04:18] spike, as to my questions... you were right there are no tools for lvm on the "install" cd [04:18] spike, i dont know how the vg's and lv's are created without them though [04:18] spike, but the "live" cd has them... so everthing is golden between the 2 [04:19] surely the lvm tools are in the install system.. [04:19] ubijtsa, nope [04:19] oh, hello Xoritor [04:19] ubijtsa, you drop to a shell and it says no lvm [04:19] lol [04:19] but it does create and use them [04:19] i really liked the installer [04:19] hmm. maybe it pulls in a udeb if you say you want to setup lvm [04:19] i dunno [04:20] what command did you try? [04:20] ubijtsa, but the live cd has everything [04:20] lvm [04:20] lv [04:20] vg [04:20] pv [04:20] first [04:20] vgscan [04:20] not found [04:20] ok, vgchange -ay [04:20] nope [04:20] lvm vgscan [04:20] nope [04:20] lvm vgchange -ay [04:20] nope again [04:20] none of them were there that i saw [04:20] uhm, could be that it uses the lvm shell, so you may have to run /sbin/lvm2 or summat [04:21] i did not try lvm2 [04:21] hmmm [04:21] interesting [04:21] im used to RHEL and FC systems where its named lvm not lvm2 [04:21] do an ls in /{,s}bin and see if there is any lvm tools there :) [04:21] and its named lvm in the distor also [04:22] on the install cd === spike has never seen lvm2 on any deb/ubuntu system [04:22] lvm2 binary I mean [04:22] to create the lvm pv/vg/lv's you more or less need the lvm tools.. === spike curses his pix [04:23] unless there is some super-script twiddling device-mapper at a *low* level [04:23] ubijtsa, thats what i said! [04:23] heh [04:23] ubijtsa, i was thinking that same thing [04:23] i dunno though [04:24] evms can twiddle lvm2 as well, but I doubt the install cd uses that [04:24] im not too worried about it [04:24] i got it done with 0 data loss [04:24] good stuff :) [04:24] kept all my stuff in tact [04:24] yea it was really freakin cool [04:24] and very little time === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.254.150] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:24] one issue i did have was the disk ordering [04:25] my normal sda drive became sdc [04:25] i have 3 sata drives in this machine [04:25] and the raptor usually is on sda... but ubuntu sees it as sdc === ubijtsa would like a proper scsi raid5 [04:26] not a big deal, but it caused a headache between grub and the bios and ubuntu booting ;-) [04:27] i want a multi channel pci express scsi ultra 320 setup on a 4-8 way opteron doing software raid [04:27] heh [04:27] so i would get full speed to each channel for each part of the raid [04:28] no pci bottle necks [04:28] not that they are that bad mind you... just im a freak [04:28] get a fastt600 ;) [04:29] fastt600? [04:29] i am thinking of getting one of those "ram drives" from gigabyte [04:29] ibm storage array, fibre channel [04:29] aah [04:29] well... there is that [04:29] 50MB/s sustained xfer rate [04:29] one of my friends works at netapp [04:29] ;-) [04:30] i am trying to get her to send me a filer for "testing" ;-) [04:30] ahahahahaha [04:30] but i dont wanna pay the power bill [04:30] Xoritor: You'd probably be better off on a 2-way opteron, IIRC. Not as much locking overhead in various linux io layers. [04:31] maswan, hmm you think so? i have a 2 way.. (well when i buy the second 246 i will) ;-) === Xoritor needs more $$$ === Xoritor passes around the bum hat [04:31] Xoritor: I think so, but I'm not sure. Also, for just pushing bits, that's plenty of overkill cpu-wise [04:36] heh [04:36] trying to figure out if i want to upgrade to dapper [04:36] any of you running it? [04:37] of course this is for my workstation not my main server [04:37] tried it out at flight-2, reported a half-dozen bugs, now running breezy with custom kernel [04:37] maswan, hmm [04:38] Xoritor: nothing really serious, but kind of annoying. and mostly quickly fixed [04:39] still dunno what i want to do [04:39] i think ill stick with this for a while [04:39] learn more === Xoritor is new to ubuntu [04:39] im not new to linux by any means [04:39] but new to ubuntu [04:40] so im not 100% sure where everything is, and how it all plays together === beanz [n=bean@router.awinet.at] has joined #ubuntu-server [04:43] Hello. 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