[12:00] <axisys> hi all
[12:00] <Seveas> ompaul, the bot can send things to unregistered people too
[12:00] <ompaul> ahh
[12:00] <insomnd> hi. what is the fps for a real video stream? i think mplayer is having difficulty detecting it
[12:00] <ompaul> Seveas, thanks
[12:00] <Seveas> they just can't send things back to the bot :)
[12:00] <axisys> i am getting cannot open audio device, another application may be using it
[12:00] <axisys> how do i find out who?
[12:00] <glick> yeh i think the latest pmount is broken too
[12:00] <MacSlow> ssam, where do I look for already filed bug-reports on dapper?=
[12:00] <axisys> i am not running any music
[12:00] <ompaul> matthewjames, read that message from the bot
[12:00] <Seveas> MacSlow, launchpad.net/malone
[12:00] <Telemachus> is there a linux app that can rip audio from a DVD?
[12:01] <MacSlow> Seveas, thx
[12:01] <ompaul> Seveas, have an ice cold guinness
[12:01] <jnk> Telemachus, sure... I used mplayer for that but there are plenty
[12:01] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak so i just copy the text at that url and recplace it with mine?
[12:02] <gnomefreak> mc the lower one yes paste that in place of yours
[12:03] <Seveas> ompaul, the heating in my apartment is busted, so it's ice cold already
[12:03] <matthewjames> ompaul, whats my kernal version?
[12:03] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok now what?
[12:03] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, click save
[12:03] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak yeah did it
[12:03] <axisys> need help to unlock audo device
[12:03] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, than type in terminal sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <axisys> audio device rather
[12:04] <ompaul> matthewjames, uname -r will tell you
[12:04] <jnk> axisys, what do you mean?
[12:04] <matthewjames> i cant go back to linux now
[12:05] <axisys> when i try to play from firefox, the real player says that audio device is used by some other app
[12:05] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, let me know when that is done
[12:05] <ompaul> matthewjames, >>uname -r<< how do you mean "can't"
[12:05] <axisys> how do i find out who?
[12:05] <gerald_> arrghh, where is the swat config file
[12:05] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak got tons of errors
[12:05] <axisys> so that i can unlock it
[12:05] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak it tells me  to run update should i?
[12:06] <gnomefreak> ok mcdenyer forget that than just type sudo apt-get update
[12:06] <axisys> jnk: make sense?
[12:06] <ompaul> Seveas, get a couple of old 21 inch CRT monitors
[12:06] <jnk> axisys, yes
[12:06] <Seveas> rofl
[12:06] <axisys> jnk: do u know how?
[12:06] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok is the source list just like a list of places on the net of where to get things for my computer?
[12:07] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok its done
[12:07] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, yes
[12:07] <gnomefreak> any errrors?
[12:07] <mcdenyer> no
[12:07] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:07] <jnk> axisys, well I don't know, seems lsof doesn't work for that... if you don't have any audio or video app running, check that you don't have a sound daemon either, like arts or esd
[12:07] <jenda> jnk: I found it. Easytag is very powerful, and the mistake was that I overloked the button that said scan/apply new names... I thought it only scanned. thank you anyway :)
[12:07] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, after you type that sit back you have a few 6-7 hours :)
[12:07] <jnk> axisys, "ps aux | grep esd" and "ps aux | grep arts" should return nothing except a line about grep itself
[12:07] <jnk> jenda, np
[12:08] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok whats it doing right now?
[12:08] <wb>  there a LDAP-enabled chfn / chsh commands available?
[12:08] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak what kind of upgrade is it doing ?
[12:08] <axisys> it did return /usr/bin/esd -nobeeps
[12:08] <gnomefreak> upgrading hoary to breezy
[12:08] <ompaul> jnk, even better to remove that grep line  "ps aux | grep arts| grep -v grep"
[12:08] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, its installing the 5.10 packages
[12:08] <axisys> jnk: should i kill esd?
[12:09] <jnk> axisys, yeah that should do it for this session
[12:09] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok so right now its looking at the source list and finding that i have all the  wrong stuff and is now changing them into breezy?
[12:09] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, yes
[12:09] <cyprex> anyone know an easy way to share a directory to a windows pc?
[12:09] <jnk> ompaul, yea
[12:09] <_clem>  I can't set the tapping gestures off my touchpad in xorg.. anybody knows how to fix this ?
[12:09] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak the source list also says what os u have?
[12:09] <mcdenyer> or sohuld have
[12:09] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, yes that is what the breezy is
[12:09] <axisys> jnk: still getting same message
[12:10] <axisys> audo device is in use
[12:10] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak ok ty very much
[12:10] <lightbright> _jason: lets say a file was on the hard drive and then deleted and then another file is written in the same place that old one was! is it still possible to recover the first original file?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> yw
[12:10] <tuppa> woo
[12:10] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak now i just need to find out how this filesystem thing works lol
[12:10] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes
[12:10] <tuppa> latest dist-upgrade to dapper broke GTK2 with utf8
[12:10] <_clem> anybody knows a bit about touchpads ?
[12:10] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, using it will help you will see
[12:10] <jnk> axisys, try shutting the browser down, checking once more for esd btw, and start the browser again..
[12:10] <lightbright> gnomefreak: thats interesting
[12:10] <gnomefreak> tuppa, that is expected
[12:10] <_jason> lightbright, i am in no way an expert in this...
[12:11] <tuppa> so far beep-media-player and nautilus breaks horribly when browsing a directory with uytf8 filenames
[12:11] <lightbright> gnomefreak: how is that possible?
[12:11] <tuppa> I suspect either libc6 or glib
[12:11] <gnomefreak> lightbright, with a strong engough tool and smart enough person yes it can be recovered it leaves traces
[12:11] <tuppa> so malone is now the official place for bug reporting?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> tuppa, launchpad is
[12:11] <mcdenyer> !easysource
[12:11] <jnk> lightbright, it's possible but not by the drive itself, you have to take it apart and analyse it with special equipement in a laboratory
[12:11] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:12] <Blippe> lightbright, and that is not cheap
[12:13] <gerald-volt> how do I restart my inited
[12:13] <jnk> lightbright, of course the drive cannot read the old data itself or you would have 100 GB capacity instead of 10 :)
[12:13] <lightbright> jnk: ok
[12:13] <rick_> we can't get our HP Laserjet-4 to work. It seems to be configured properly, but everything gets added to the que and never prints
[12:13] <lightbright> Blippe: ok
[12:14] <km0> Just instaled ubuntu for the first time i selected server to install mimimal but it didn't ask for a root password
[12:14] <hawking> if some stuff about bluetooth is written in dmesg does that mean I have bluetooth?
[12:14] <km0> so I dunno what password to use for su -
[12:14] <alex__> !xorg
[12:14] <ubotu> somebody said xorg was to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:14] <jnk> km0, you can just make "sudo passwd"
[12:14] <km0> before runnign apt-get install
[12:14] <tuppa> gnomefreak: it's unfortunate though, coz breezy doesn't seem to work well with my laptop
[12:14] <Seveas> km0, sudo...
[12:14] <Seveas> !tell km0 about root
[12:14] <tuppa> gnomefreak: so I'm kinda forced to use dapper
[12:15] <matthewjames> ompaul: it said no such file or directory
[12:15] <ompaul> km0, non - type >> sudo apt-get install ?? << use your own password
[12:15] <km0> Seveas, thasnkI readd up
[12:15] <km0> oh sweet
[12:15] <dabaR> tangy!
[12:15] <jenda> I have 51 dirs named F00, F01 ... F50. They contain about 30 files each. I would like to flatten it out - move all the files into one dir. Any Ideas? Will "mv ./F*/* ./all/" work?
[12:15] <w0rd0r> jenda: whoa
[12:15] <gnomefreak> tuppa, dapper wont be out until atleast april 20th so you have dapper before its beta you are gonna find alot of issues/bugs/fixes
[12:15] <jnk> jenda, yes
[12:16] <lightbright> Radab
[12:16] <w0rd0r> jenda: don't rm -R -f /*
[12:16] <lightbright> Rabad
[12:16] <tuppa> gnomefreak: that I know
[12:16] <jenda> w0rd0r: Don't even ever say that out loud.
[12:16] <cyprex> anyone know of an easy to use linux graphical ftp server?
[12:16] <tuppa> but hey, I screwed either way :p
[12:16] <matthewjames> ompaul: it said no such file or directory
[12:16] <jnk> jenda, provided you never have two files with the same name
[12:16] <gerald-volt> how do i restart my inetd
[12:16] <PuMpErNi1kLe> .
[12:17] <tuppa> s/I/I'm/
[12:17] <w0rd0r> jenda: don't even get me stahted!
[12:17] <jenda> jnk: Good point. Is there a simple way to find out?
[12:17] <ompaul> matthewjames, for what - that one is deep space 9 for me no idea what you are talking about - and I said it before I have read it I was thinking reading back over the conversation here - I see it the first time and then think
[12:17] <matthewjames> ompaul: it said no such file or directory, for the ati driver install
[12:17] <ompaul> matthewjames, I see no "file or dir" in our previous conversation
[12:18] <jnk> jenda, use 'mv -i' so it will ask before overwriting
[12:18] <gnomefreak> tuppa, what didnt work with breezy that works with dapper?
[12:18] <jenda> jnk: okey doke
[12:18] <km0> and I need to set IP info, what file is it/
[12:18] <ompaul> matthewjames, thank you, which page are you referring to wiki or forum?
[12:18] <mathew> Hello.
[12:18] <cello_rasp> to upgrade to dapper, would it be a simple matter of running the upgrade tool or spm?
[12:18] <cello_rasp> hi
[12:18] <matthewjames> not for that, for installing it for xserver will work
[12:19] <_jchaoul> cat /proc/pci says there's no such file or directory
[12:19] <tuppa> gnomefreak: ACPI I suspect, my laptop doesn't seem to suspend in breezy
[12:19] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, nothing is simple with dapper
[12:19] <mkyb14> how do you bind a command to a key?
[12:19] <mathew> I'm trying to install the ATI driver and I'm having an issue.. I don't think I have a compiler installed. Can someone help me please?
[12:19] <mkyb14> for 3ddesktop
[12:19] <ompaul> cello_rasp, upgrade but read this first
[12:19] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:19] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[12:19] <mkyb14> or any program in general
[12:19] <cello_rasp> gnomefreak: i meant when it is stable XD
[12:19] <mkyb14> mathew
[12:19] <mkyb14> i got the tutorial if you need it i just finished mine
[12:19] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, we dont know its sstill 3 months away
[12:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, it is the 20th april
[12:20] <gnomefreak> yes i know ompaul
[12:20] <gnomefreak> that is 3months from now
[12:20] <mathew> mkyb14, I used the one on wiki, but I'm having an issue.
[12:20] <gnomefreak>  :)
[12:20] <_jchaoul> Why is it so?
[12:20] <alex__> i reconfigured my xorg file and i still can't get 1024x768
[12:20] <matthewjames> ompaul: why is my xserver still screwed up. lol, this sucks
[12:20] <mathew> mkyb14, I'd like the link anyway.
[12:20] <mkyb14> nono... one sec
[12:20] <ompaul> matthewjames, this comes down to your video card
[12:21] <matthewjames> ati xpress 200
[12:21] <_jchaoul> cat /proc/pci says there's no such file or directory
[12:21] <misfit_toy> tech9iner, hey man
[12:21] <_jchaoul> isnt that file available?
[12:21] <ompaul> matthewjames, just give me a minute for some random idea testing
[12:21] <matthewjames> k
[12:22] <Hollowman8904> can somebody help me force my monitor to 1024x768?
[12:22] <glick> has anyone beeen havin problems mounting removable media like external disks and such?
[12:22] <Hollowman8904> i can't get it higher then 800x600 right now
[12:22] <mkyb14> mathew look in the chat i just opened
[12:22] <matthewjames> hollowman, yes
[12:22] <mwe> !fixres
[12:22] <rick_> forget it ... we rebooted the computer and it works
[12:22] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[12:22] <Hollowman8904> matthewjames, how?  i tried to reconfigure my xorg file
[12:22] <glick> ?
[12:22] <Hollowman8904> matthewjames, with a command soemone else gave me
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Hollowman8904, when you were in dpkg-reconfigurexserver-xorg did you see the list of res not to use?
[12:23] <dabaR> glick: someone has for sure.
[12:23] <mkyb14> mathew did you see my post
[12:23] <mathew> mkyb14, I don't see it.
[12:23] <glick> i keep getting the following error when i plug in my drive
[12:23] <ompaul> matthewjames, okay run that command again and this time I want you to do something different when it says auto detect video card you say no and choose the type "vesa" nothin to do wth ati and see if you can get any life out of it
[12:23] <mathew> mkyb14, what channel?>
[12:23] <mkyb14> i'm going to open a chat with you
[12:23] <glick> An error occurred while loading media:/sdb4:
[12:23] <glick> The file or folder media:/sdb4 does not exist.
[12:23] <Hollowman8904> gnomefreak, yes... i made sure 1024x768 was selected as "use"
[12:23] <gnomefreak> make sure the res you want is NOT checked
[12:23] <ompaul> matthewjames,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg <<
[12:23] <mwe> !tell Hollowman8904 about fixres
[12:23] <matthewjames> ompaul: which command again?
[12:23] <lukus001> I keep getting an error about DCOPserver not running for koffice's KDE based applications, please can somone help me
[12:23] <mkyb14> mathew do you not see another window blinking waiting for you?
[12:24] <Hollowman8904> gnomefreak, there was 640x480, 800x600, 1024x768, and 1280x1024 selected
[12:24] <trickyflicks> wanna get in line for sound card question
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Hollowman8904, if you read it closely it says NOT TO USE
[12:24] <mwe> Hollowman8904: read the fixres wiki please. you need to fill VertRefresh a HorizSync values
[12:24] <mathew> mkyb14,  afraid not.
[12:24] <ompaul> matthewjames,  >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << did you get that?
[12:25] <matthewjames> ompaul: the only thing that happens when i do that, is this. possably writting changes or somthing like that
[12:25] <gerald-volt> i can't get into swat via my web browser when I do a localhost:901
[12:25] <mkyb14> open a chat with me so i'm not typing lines in the general discussion
[12:25] <gerald-volt> this is what I have in my inetd.conf
[12:25] <gerald-volt> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat swat
[12:25] <lukus001> I have a DCOP error with KDE can somone help me please
[12:25] <ompaul> matthewjames, now you have a command line try this >>sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start<<
[12:26] <mathew> mkyb14, ... Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[12:26] <matthewjames> k
[12:26] <matthewjames> brb
[12:26] <mathew> mkyb14, join #unixpunx
[12:26] <mkyb14> dude register your self
[12:26] <gerald-volt> cd /etc/init.d
[12:26] <gerald-volt> ls
[12:26] <gerald-volt> oops
[12:26] <frazmanw> I can not get ATI fglrx working in Ubuntu on 64 bit
[12:28] <oneseventeen> I just ran regionset, set my region to "1" and now it asks if the new mask of "0xFFFFFFFE" is correct, how do I know if that's correct?
[12:28] <kondi_> what is the best game for ubuntu ?
[12:28] <dabaR> Looks correct.
[12:28] <rick_> dumb question: I do I look up the IP address for the machine I am using?
[12:28] <mwe> oneseventeen: that would be the mask of 1
[12:28] <_jchaoul> Guys
[12:28] <dabaR> ifconfig
[12:28] <_jchaoul> I can't run it though because it's not there. (/sbin/lspci)
[12:29] <_jchaoul> why?
[12:29] <gerald-volt> ipconfig
[12:29] <dabaR> rick_: ifconfig
[12:29] <rick_> yeah, thanks!
[12:29] <dabaR> gerald-volt: do you use windows?
[12:29] <sorush20> anyone here can help out with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7190
[12:29] <gerald-volt> yea
[12:30] <dabaR> gerald-volt: ipconfig is in windows, and ifconfig is in Ubuntu
[12:30] <gerald-volt> ok
[12:30] <_jchaoul> Anyone?
[12:31] <gerald-volt> anyonek now why I can't get swat to work in my browser
[12:31] <gerald-volt> swat            stream  tcp     nowait.400      root    /usr/sbin/tcpd  /usr/sbin/swat swat
[12:31] <gerald-volt> I have that in my inetd.conf file
[12:32] <oneseventeen> mwe: thanks, it works now!
[12:32] <_jchaoul> mwe: any ideas man?
[12:33] <kakei> _jchaoul, whats wrong
[12:33] <_jchaoul> I need help with with WIFI installation on my laptop
[12:33] <_jchaoul> I can't run it though because it's not there. (/sbin/lspci)
[12:34] <mwe> _jchaoul: did you read the wifi howto?
[12:34] <_jchaoul> and I dont have /proc/pci
[12:34] <mwe> _jchaoul: that sounds broken
[12:34] <_jchaoul> I found it very strange to not have /proc/pci
[12:34] <mwe> _jchaoul: what the output of mount? any mentioning of /proc ?
[12:35] <_jchaoul> its mounted
[12:35] <mwe> _jchaoul: oh just /proc/pci missing ? I don't have that either
[12:35] <mwe> _jchaoul: I think the new lispci is using /sys
[12:35] <km0> Hello I am having trouble setting my ip and defautlGateway
[12:35] <km0> I ahve search the wiki but can't find any info
[12:35] <km0> any one direct me to a url, or some reference
[12:36] <tkup> what's a good UML drawing program? I've been using dia for over a year now but I want something better if possible. I tried umbrello but didn't like it. Can you propose one?
[12:36] <_jason> can I make it impossible to use sudo remotely?  how?
[12:36] <kondi_> albrelo ist one uml drawing tool
[12:36] <_jchaoul> mwe could you give me some insight on the installation?
[12:36] <mwe> _jchaoul: however you should have /proc/bus/pci
[12:36] <accela> why is it that when I run tuxracer or frozen-bubbles from the menu i get no sound but if I run them from a terminal the sound works?
[12:36] <mwe> _jchaoul: did you read the wifi howto?
[12:37] <trickyflicks> any sound experts?
[12:37] <alphy> anyway to get shockwave to work on linux?
[12:38] <_jchaoul> mwe Yeah, it's a little unclear for me.
[12:38] <_jason> alphy, no, maybe using wine.  Someone was trying that earlier but having trouble
[12:38] <Knorrie> km0: use system -> administration -> networking or.. `man interfaces` gives you information about how to edit /etc/network/interfaces
[12:38] <_jchaoul> I rather like a step-by-step howto's
[12:38] <kondi_> accela : for this problem add the user in the sound groupe
[12:38] <Forgott3n> hello
[12:38] <Forgott3n> I need some major help / consultatio
[12:38] <alphy> _jason, get wine from the terminal?
[12:38] <mwe> _jchaoul: so what precisly is your problem?
[12:38] <francisco> hay alguien que hable espaol?
[12:38] <_jason> !es
[12:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:39] <Forgott3n> hello
[12:39] <accela> kondi_ thx
[12:39] <francisco> ok
[12:39] <francisco> ya me ha quedado claro
[12:39] <_jason> alphy, I'm just telling you that may be a possibility.  There currently is no shockwave for linux
[12:39] <Knorrie> Forgott3n: hi, just ask your question :)
[12:39] <Forgott3n> ok, is there any way to run the wizzard from windows?
[12:40] <Forgott3n> must it be from the boot-up proccess with a disk or floppy?
[12:40] <accela> kondi_ use is already in the audio group
[12:40] <alphy> _jason, I know no shockwave for linux but, do I get wine from terminal?
[12:40] <gerald-volt> anyone here use swat?
[12:40] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: /etc/hosts.allow?
[12:40] <_jason> ubotu, tell alphy about wine
[12:40] <km0> Knorrie, thanks.  I installed using the "server" option at boot
[12:40] <kondi_> check the /etc/group
[12:40] <km0> so I have no IDE
[12:40] <ompaul> Forgott3n, what are you trying to do ?
[12:41] <gerald-volt> Knorrie:  what do I set in there
[12:41] <km0> I know I need to mod /etc/network
[12:41] <Forgott3n> installing Ubuntu 5.10 via bootable disk
[12:41] <km0> but do I need th lo device in there I dont; recalling seing tone on other systems
[12:41] <Forgott3n> ubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso was burnt to a disk with ISO formatting and Bootable Disk optioned checked
[12:42] <ompaul> Forgott3n, set your machine to boot from CD Rom and it will take care of the rest, before you do "defrag" your windows machine
[12:42] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: `swat: yo.our.ip.addr`
[12:42] <art321321uro321> /server irc.gamepad.ca
[12:42] <Forgott3n> I have set it to do so
[12:42] <art321321uro321> /server irc.gamepad.ca
[12:42] <ompaul> Forgott3n,  thenyou should boot it
[12:42] <Forgott3n> it reconises and everything, but it stops at this line: A:\>
[12:42] <Forgott3n> no info can be entered
[12:42] <Forgott3n> and its stops
[12:43] <Forgott3n> no wizzard or prompt
[12:43] <Nihil85> hi everyone! I cannot change the time... The system requires the pswd but then nothing happens. How can i change the date and hour?
[12:43] <orangey> hey all!
[12:43] <ompaul> Forgott3n,  that is not installing Ubuntu
[12:43] <orangey> is there any good information on how to setup xinerama in ubuntu?
[12:43] <jclinton> omeoe hel! gome grabbed my key ad wo't let go!
[12:43] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: that _can_ be a solution, if the cause of the problem is a to restrictive hosts.allow
[12:43] <orangey> does ubuntu support xinerama well?
[12:43] <ompaul> Forgott3n, a:\ is a floppy
[12:43] <Kyral> !tell Nihil85 about RootSudo
[12:43] <Forgott3n> how do I instal Ubuntu on a windows computer?????
[12:43] <gerald-volt> swat: gerald.our.192.168.0.100
[12:43] <Forgott3n> I know
[12:43] <gerald-volt> what do I put for our
[12:43] <Knorrie> Forgott3n: look if there is a floppy in your disk-drive
[12:43] <Forgott3n> there is, nothing is in it
[12:43] <gerald-volt> How do I type directly to someone on irc like most people are doing
[12:43] <ompaul> Forgott3n, let me find you a url that may be useful to you
[12:43] <Forgott3n> ok
[12:43] <jclinton> how do i kill the gome keyboard hortcut!?
[12:43] <gerald-volt> so that their nickname will be bolded
[12:44] <Forgott3n> is there any other way to start the disk?
[12:44] <Nihil85> Kyral, i did sudo, but it doesn't work
[12:44] <_jason> gerald-volt, what do you mean?
[12:44] <jclinton> it ha ruied my keyboard etu
[12:44] <tkup> Forgott3n, remove the floppy disk from the drive and set it to boot off your cd drive
[12:44] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: type the nick and use tab-completion
[12:44] <mwe> gome keyboard hortcut?
[12:44] <gerald-volt> Knorrie, oh
[12:44] <jclinton> i ca't tye
[12:44] <mwe> rofl
[12:44] <jclinton> it ha take 3 of my key
[12:44] <Forgott3n> tkup: I have no floppy disk in there, and it is set to boot from CD
[12:44] <trickyflicks> got major issues with ice1712 M-Audio 44 card, and can't get a sb5.1 to work either...
[12:44] <gerald-volt> Knorrie, swat: gerald.our.192.168.0.100
[12:44] <Knorrie> jclinton: ROFL
[12:44] <jclinton> it wot let go
[12:44] <gerald-volt> what am I missing
[12:45] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: no no, just the ip address... :)
[12:45] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: swat:  192.168.0.100
[12:45] <bwlang> i'm having some trouble with software suspend (aka hibernate)... it doesn't resume - it just reboots.  I can't see anything in the logs about it until the init script that clears out any signatures runs...  Did i miss something in my kernel config? (i'm using suspend2)
[12:45] <jclinton> i etered the dialog ad diabled all accelerator
[12:45] <tkup> Forgott3n, what does dir return?
[12:45] <jclinton> but it till ha them grabbed
[12:45] <Forgott3n> no input can be entered
[12:45] <Nihil85> Kyral, i did "sudo time-admin", but it keeps telling me that i haven't the right permission
[12:45] <Forgott3n> I told you that
[12:45] <TheRedCheese> are there any packages that come witha  ubndle of themes for gnome? i cant seem to find any
[12:45] <jclinton> what do i do?
[12:45] <ompaul> Forgott3n, this shows (A) what you need (B) how to do simple and complex installs  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation?action=show&redirect=Installing if you have a specific problem let us know
[12:45] <cactii> Hello all.
[12:45] <cactii> I need some help....
[12:45] <kondi_> hello
[12:46] <gerald-volt> Knorrie, still doesn't work
[12:46] <gilles> how do u enable mp3 codecs ?
[12:46] <gerald-volt> do I have to restart something?
[12:46] <Kyral> Nihil85: Right click on the clock?
[12:46] <cactii> Can anybody tell me what a Hoobastank is???
[12:46] <ompaul> Forgott3n, if your machine is pointing at the A:\> there is something wrong
[12:46] <Nihil85> Kyral, done
[12:46] <Kyral> I honestly cannot remember
[12:46] <_jason> cactii, a band
[12:46] <ompaul> Forgott3n, this is a different operatingsystem
[12:46] <mwe> jclinton: I'm not sure what you're talking about. ctrl-alt-backspace will kill your x sessision so you can login again though
[12:46] <kondi_> cactii :what is you problem
[12:46] <Kyral> there should be something to change the time there
[12:46] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: /etc/init.d/inetd reload
[12:46] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: to make changes in the configuration active
[12:46] <cactii> I know it is a band.... but what is a Hoobastank????
[12:46] <Nihil85> Kyral, i also did sudo chmod with the folder where there's this error
[12:46] <Kyral> how is this linux related...
[12:46] <gerald-volt> i don't have inetd in that directory
[12:46] <Kyral> this thing about the band
[12:47] <Nihil85> now the folder is mine, but i cannot change date and hour
[12:47] <mcdenyer> where can i make folders like a downloads folder and a pictures folder and a documents folder?
[12:47] <Forgott3n> could it be because of the keyboard being USB and not a standard keyboard? is that why it doesnt accept input?
[12:47] <jclinton> retartig X
[12:47] <Kyral> Nihil85: you mean the time modified?
[12:47] <cactii> Does everything n here have to be Linux related?
[12:47] <gerald-volt> niether does inetd a command
[12:47] <cactii> Sorry... didn;t know.
[12:47] <gerald-volt> should I just restart my compo?
[12:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: homedir. /home/mcdenyer
[12:47] <Nihil85> Kyral, when i left click on the clock, the system requires the password, then nothing happens
[12:47] <mcdenyer> i need somone to help me understand the filesytem of linux
[12:47] <_jason> cactii, from answers.com: In an interview with Launch Yahoo Doug Robb said the name had no particular meaning
[12:47] <Nihil85> Kyral, yes, i want to modify the time
[12:47] <Forgott3n> I am trying to install ubuntu on an old Windows XP SP2... and yes it meets the requirements
[12:47] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: but you have a /etc/inetd.conf
[12:48] <gerald-volt> yea
[12:48] <cactii> sweet.. thanks _jason
[12:48] <Kyral> Nihil85: on a folder? Or a System Clock?
[12:48] <gerald-volt>  inetd
[12:48] <gerald-volt> bash: inetd: command not found
[12:48] <_jason> cactii, in the future try to ask ubuntu-related questions here
[12:48] <cactii> ok
[12:48] <mcdenyer> mwe how do i get to that lol?
[12:48] <mwe> Forgott3n: you don't install ubnutu from inside windows. it's not a windows program it's a different operating system
[12:48] <Nihil85> Kyral, nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo time-admin
[12:48] <Nihil85> Password:
[12:48] <Nihil85> Impossibile impostare i permessi a 0700 per la directory utente di configurazione di GNOME /root/.gnome2_private/: Not a directory
[12:48] <Nihil85> nihil@Olidata:~$
[12:48] <ompaul> Forgott3n, it is not seeing the CD Rom if it is showing A:\> so you need to adjust the bios to boot off the CD ROM
[12:48] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: `/etc/init.d/inetd reload` or `sudo /etc/init.d/inetd reload`
[12:48] <ompaul> Forgott3n, what kind of PC is it?
[12:48] <Kyral> Nihil85: You have Sudo power right (ie, in /etc/sudoers
[12:49] <Nihil85> Kyral, yes
[12:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: just open a terminal or file browser
[12:49] <mcdenyer> ok
[12:49] <cactii> I have a broadcom wireless network adapter in my notebook... it wasn;t automatically configured during my Ubuntu install... can anybody tell me how to configure it?
[12:49] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: and if you're in /etc/init.d/ already, use ./inetd reload
[12:49] <Forgott3n> I am trying to install ubuntu on an old Windows XP SP2... and yes it meets the requirements
[12:49] <Kyral> cactii: Broadcom ICK
[12:49] <gerald-volt> I don't even have a file called inetd
[12:49] <mwe> Forgott3n: hello
[12:49] <Kyral> Forgott3n: you seem to miss the point
[12:49] <mwe> Forgott3n: you don't install ubnutu from inside windows. it's not a windows program it's a different operating system
[12:49] <Forgott3n> I understand
[12:49] <vencabot> Are there any GAIM experts about? I'm having trouble with Y!IM offline messages.
[12:49] <Kyral> Forgott3n: Linux is not another Windows App, Linux is a replacement for Windows
[12:50] <Forgott3n> I was just doublechecking, sir
[12:50] <mkyb14> how do you bind a program to a key?
[12:50] <Forgott3n> I understand that
[12:50] <Nihil85> Kyral, those folders had file system error. i checked and heal them with fsck. now they don't work
[12:50] <cactii> Kyral, Broadcom ICK is what?
[12:50] <kondi_> cactii :  1) find the irq and port Use = lspci
[12:50] <Forgott3n> I was just checking about msconfig and seeing if I could adjust settings there
[12:50] <Kyral> cactii: Broadcom has historically had horrible Linux support
[12:50] <_jason> ubotu, tell mkyb14 about shortcut
[12:50] <Kyral> Nihil85: what folders?
[12:51] <fr500> hello
[12:51] <kondi_> cactii 2)  test if the module  for your wire less is load with lsmod
[12:51] <mwe> Forgott3n: you can't. it's not a windows program
[12:51] <ruhan> I'm having a lot of trouble getting my networking to work. It every once and a while starts going, but most of the time every light blinks on and off slowly, and I get a "connect: Network is unreachable" when I ping other ips on the network. It's an older card that was autoconfigured during setup, when it at first failed then then started working. It is a working network card and I've had it working in ubuntu before on different installs o
[12:51] <ruhan> n a different network.
[12:51] <mwe> *sigh*
[12:51] <Knorrie> gerald-volt: then your system is broken
[12:51] <Nihil85> this folder: /root/.gnome2_private/: Not a directory
[12:51] <fr500> how do i reconfigure a package, i mean there is a dpkg option that invokes the config dialogs, i don't remember it
[12:51] <ompaul> Forgott3n, what kind of PC is it?
[12:51] <Forgott3n> this entire time I am trying to get it to boot from a cd during the computer boot system
[12:51] <Kyral> Nihil85: logout of root
[12:51] <Forgott3n> ompaul I told 2 times
[12:51] <ompaul> Forgott3n, maker
[12:51] <Forgott3n> I am trying to install ubuntu on an old Windows XP SP2... and yes it meets the requirements
[12:51] <Nihil85> Kyral, i'm not root
[12:51] <Forgott3n> custom built
[12:51] <Nihil85> Kyral, i just did sudo
[12:52] <Kyral> Nihil85: then why do you need that folder...
[12:52] <ompaul> Forgott3n, thank you
[12:52] <Nihil85> Kyral, i don't know
[12:52] <Forgott3n> no problem
[12:52] <Forgott3n> would you prefere to chat via PM???
[12:52] <Nihil85> Kyral, that's the problem
[12:52] <DaDave> hi all
[12:52] <Kyral> Nihil85: I don't think your problem is Time-Admin directly
[12:52] <Nihil85> Kyral, so, what could be my problem?
[12:52] <kondi_> cactii find a module for you hardware and uses inmod if you don t find a korrekt use ndiswrapper and the windows driver
[12:52] <Kyral> dunno
[12:53] <Kyral> hold on
[12:53] <cactii> kondi_, lspci doesn't list an IRQ... unless the number before the entry for it has something to do with which IRQ it is.
[12:53] <dabaR> hi, DaDave
[12:53] <Kyral> okaaay....
[12:53] <ompaul> forgotten you put the Ubuntu CD in machine you reboot - then it will try to install, it is only a couple of basic questions
[12:53] <Kyral> Nihil85: how did it "heal"
[12:53] <DaDave> i have a problem with my X-Windows: When i switch from x to console i get very weird screens (nothing usefull) and i only get a usefull screen back when i switch back to the x-server. What can i do?
[12:53] <ompaul> Forgott3n,  you put the Ubuntu CD in machine you reboot - then it will try to install, it is only a couple of basic questions
[12:53] <dabaR> DaDave: so you are in the x-server now?
[12:54] <Forgott3n> ompaul: the point is, once bootup begins, it says: Boot from CD: [list of drive with cd info] 
[12:54] <DaDave> dabaR: no. i am on another machine right now :-)
[12:54] <jclinton> man what a horrible bug
[12:54] <Nihil85> Kyral, fsck healed those files, cause they had a corrupt file system and linux couldn't start
[12:54] <frazmanw> does anyone have specific instructions that work for setting up fglrx for my ati card in the 64 bir verson of ubuntu, Please
[12:54] <Forgott3n> this is says: A:\>
[12:54] <Kyral> Nihil85: that folder may have been wiped out
[12:54] <dabaR> DaDave: try running "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm stop" in a terminal, if you are in ubuntu, and "invoke-rc.d gdm stop" as root if you are in debian. see what that does for you.
[12:54] <cactii> kondi_, also lsmod doesn't say anything about wireless network adapters...
[12:54] <kondi_> cactii :  lspci -v
[12:54] <Kyral> Forgott3n: you booted from a floppy...
[12:54] <mwe> cactii: doesn't lscpi -v though?
[12:55] <Nihil85> Kyral, so, what's the solution?
[12:55] <Forgott3n> I did no such thing, there is not floppy in there, and I burnt the ISO to a CD-R
[12:55] <cactii> yes... IRQ 11
[12:55] <Kyral> Nihil85: sudo mkdir /root/file?
[12:55] <DaDave> dabaR: hmmm... okay
[12:55] <Kyral> Nihil85: thats just a guess really...
[12:56] <johanbr> frazmanw: You have xorg-driver-fglrx installed, right? If so, my xorg.conf should be a good start: http://nullinfinity.org/xorg.conf
[12:56] <fr500> why does apt-get install mysql-server install postfix
[12:56] <Kyral> Because it needs it?
[12:56] <mwe> Forgott3n: good start. now boot from the cd-r
[12:56] <Forgott3n> thats what Ive been trying to do
[12:56] <frazmanw> johanbr: are you running 64 bit?
[12:56] <mwe> Forgott3n: and?
[12:56] <Forgott3n> I set the BIOS to boot from a CD
[12:56] <johanbr> frazmanw: Yep.
[12:56] <Nihil85> Kyral, it says "It does exist but it's not a directory"!!!!
[12:56] <Forgott3n> and
[12:56] <mcdenyer> is is very hard to get counter strike to run on ubuntu?
[12:56] <mwe> Forgott3n: it doesn't boot it?
[12:57] <kondi_> cactii: if you don't find you wirekess n. adapter when you list "lsmod" you must load a module
[12:57] <Forgott3n> it decides to stop at A:\>
[12:57] <Kyral> Nihil85: even with Mkdir?
[12:57] <Knorrie> Forgott3n: try pressing a key when you see Boot from CD blah
[12:57] <Nihil85> Kyral, yes
[12:57] <cactii> ok
[12:57] <Forgott3n> it detects it and proceeds to load it normally
[12:57] <Kyral> Nihil85: got me...I'm sorry
[12:57] <Forgott3n> but stops at A:\>
[12:57] <Forgott3n> it wont accept input
[12:57] <Forgott3n> any key I press will not work
[12:57] <Nihil85> Kyral, however thanks for the support
[12:57] <Kyral> Nihil85: no prob
[12:57] <ompaul> Forgott3n, that is not correct there is no A:\> in ubuntu we it is /dev/floppy /mnt/floppy
[12:57] <vencabot> Good luck, everybody.
[12:57] <tkup> Forgott3n, are you sure that your IDE cabling is setup properly?
[12:57] <matthewjames> ompaul: when i did that command, nothing happened
[12:57] <tkup> double check
[12:58] <Nihil85> Kyral, it's funny, my clock is only 7 hours back in time
[12:58] <mcdenyer> is there anyway i can get my comp to get its music through an ntfs partition?
[12:58] <ompaul> matthewjames, I am at a loss, and I point at the ati card and then scratch my head
[12:58] <mwe> Kyral: sometimes you can get it ...
[12:58] <Kyral> Nihil85: clunky solution would be to set the TZ to compensate
[12:58] <frazmanw> johanbr: i installed it tried changint ati to fglrx in xorg.conf no good, then I followed the instructions at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=408111 and X would not work. Any idea exactly what you did, besides the xorg.conf
[12:59] <ompaul> Forgott3n, look this is not Windows, we have different conventions for naming parts of a computer
[12:59] <Forgott3n> IDE? I believe its working fine
[12:59] <johanbr> mcdenyer: The standard kernel should read ntfs out of the box. Is it a local partition?
[12:59] <ompaul> Forgott3n, well first off when the machine boots it should say Ubuntu on the first screen is it doing that?
[01:00] <kondi_> cactii : try to find you module for wlan adapter in this folder /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net#
[01:00] <mcdenyer> johanbr yeah its what i kepy all my docs in when i used windows
[01:00] <kondi_> that is the folder for modules
[01:00] <Forgott3n> no
[01:00] <WildTangent> where does mysql keep the database files by default on ubuntu?
[01:00] <mwe> ompaul: he doesn't seem to get that far
[01:00] <mcdenyer> johanbr so how do i acess it its doesnt show up in the file browser
[01:00] <Forgott3n> the point is unbunu's disk wont work
[01:00] <Forgott3n> it will not load
[01:00] <Kyral> Forgott3n: did you burn it right?
[01:00] <Forgott3n> yes
[01:00] <kondi_> try modprabe modulename
[01:01] <cactii> kondi_, I'm running Ubuntu64...but ok.
[01:01] <Forgott3n> I have a burnt disk the CD Drive
[01:01] <mcdenyer> whats is root terminal?
[01:01] <Forgott3n> it detects
[01:01] <majd> why does ubuntu keep turning my num lock key off?
[01:01] <Forgott3n> it
[01:01] <johanbr> frazmanw: I'm afraid I don't remember exactly. You might try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg".
[01:01] <Forgott3n> but it wont run it
[01:01] <ompaul> Forgott3n, then it is not burnt correctly (this is a better than 90% guess)
[01:01] <frazmanw> johanbr: i tried that, X no longer worked. after that
[01:02] <mcdenyer> whats the diff between root terminal and terminal????
[01:02] <Forgott3n> ok
[01:02] <Nihil85> Kyral, i can't even set the time zone
[01:02] <Knorrie> Forgott3n: did you try any other bootable cd and see if that one starts?
[01:02] <kondi_> this is not problem you must find the module for you kernel /lib/modules/"then name of youur kerfnel"/driver/net
[01:02] <Forgott3n> what is wrong with the vurning options???
[01:02] <johanbr> mcdenyer: Really?? Are you sure that's what caused it? If so, something is badly buggy.
[01:02] <wmcheesemaster> yay, this is official ubuntu help right?
[01:02] <Forgott3n> I formatted it to ISO and its got a Bootable CD option checked
[01:02] <ompaul> Forgott3n, can you get a Linux magazine with a live cd on it? you really need to check the integrity of the disk
[01:02] <WildTangent> where does mysql keep the database files by default on ubuntu?
[01:02] <com-guy> hello, help me out here.  i'm getting an error on a new install of ubuntu as server.  when i try to install apache, i get "no acceptable C compiler in...."  ?
[01:02] <mcdenyer> johanbr ???
[01:02] <cYb3rc0re> how do I connect to ADSL, I get ping reply from router on 192.168.1.1, but now i have to enter username (looks like mail) and password.
[01:03] <cYb3rc0re> where do I do that?
[01:03] <TDS> I have a feeling that he has a DOS boot loader app installed
[01:03] <ompaul> wmcheesemaster, yes and no it is a community channel. The people in #ubuntu are volunteers,
[01:03] <johanbr> frazmanw: Hmm... does your card work with the "ati" driver?
[01:03] <mcdenyer> johanbr i havnt done anything where do i acess my ntfs??
[01:03] <TDS> That will auto boot into some IBM bootloader garbage from the 80s
[01:03] <TDS> Lol.
[01:03] <frazmanw> johanbr: yes it is a X300 i used the driver with gentoo before
[01:03] <johanbr> mcdenyer: If modprobing ntfs causes X to not work anymore, something is very wrong.
[01:03] <jenda> How would I download a long list of files with URLs in a .txt?
[01:03] <bryanl> whats the gnome equiv to kde's k3b?
[01:04] <mcdenyer> johanbr i dont even know what your tlaking baout lol
[01:04] <DaDave> Is there a good Wireless Lan Manager available for gnome?
[01:04] <cactii> kondi_, I found this ipw2200.ko... the manufacturer of my notebook lists my card as a Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG Network Connection (WM3B2200BG)... could that be the one?
[01:04] <TokenBad> ok lets try the question like this...I have some free space on my slave drive I want to convert from fat32 to linux format...how can I do that in ubuntu?
[01:04] <wmcheesemaster> ahh alright, well i'm an utter n00b when it comes to this, could use some help getting it running on my laptop if anyones got some time
[01:04] <ruhan> how do I set in ubuntu terminal (this is a server) to only use 10mbps over the network card eth0?
[01:04] <mcdenyer> johanbr how do i modprob?
[01:04] <ompaul> TDS, why does it not hit the CD?
[01:04] <mcdenyer> johanbr and what do you meen X?
[01:04] <TDS> ompaul: I think it does hit the CD, but the CD has a boot loader app.
[01:04] <johanbr> frazmanw: What happens when X stops working? Does it drop you back to text mode? If so, what does /var/log/Xorg.0.log say?
[01:04] <ompaul> TDS ohh good whatsit
[01:04] <kondi_> catii : try modprobe ipw2200
[01:05] <johanbr> mcdenyer: X is the graphical environment. What happens when you run "sudo modprobe ntfs" ?
[01:05] <jenda> How would I download a long list of files with URLs in a .txt?
[01:05] <TDS> ompaul: No clue.
[01:05] <ompaul> Forgott3n, you don't by any chance have two CDs in your machine with a CD in each?
[01:05] <johanbr> jenda: wget `cat filename.txt`
[01:05] <TDS> Forgott3n: What does it say when you boot?
[01:05] <Forgott3n> no
[01:05] <cYb3rc0re> anyone conected ADSL on Ubuntu?
[01:05] <TDS> Forgott3n: The exact text.
[01:05] <kondi_> catii :  and try with lsmod if the module is load and work
[01:05] <jenda> johanbr: thx
[01:05] <bimberi> jenda: wget -i <fileofurls>
[01:05] <Knorrie> jenda: look at wget
[01:06] <frazmanw> johanbr: I get the blue screen telling me X is not working or configured correctly. I am reinstalling ubuntu right now so i dont have the log
[01:06] <Forgott3n> nothing is in there except the burnt CD-R with the i386 ISO ubuntu 5.10
[01:06] <cactii> kondi_, FATAL: Module itw2200 not found.
[01:06] <jenda> Knorrie: was just gonna :)
[01:06] <TDS> Forgott3n: What is the exact text?
[01:06] <kooler> WHAT THE FUCK S GOIN ON IN HERE gUYS
[01:06] <com-guy> cyb3rco0re, i have adsl
[01:06] <cactii> ooioh... IPW
[01:06] <cactii> hahaha
[01:06] <cYb3rc0re> com-guy, how do I enter the username and password?
[01:07] <com-guy> not sure what you mean there
[01:07] <mcdenyer> johanbr dude i havnt done anyhting yet im a ubuntu newb asking how to acess an ntfs
[01:07] <mcdenyer> johanbr but thank you for the help
[01:07] <com-guy> my dsl doesn't use a user, pass
[01:07] <mcdenyer> johanbr i have to go now
[01:07] <frazmanw> johanbr: did you just install fglrx driver and change the xorg.conf or did you have to do other things? also did you use the synaptic package or the new ones on ati website
[01:07] <kooler> ALL YOU DO IS TALK ABOUT COMPUTER STAFF??
[01:07] <kooler> STUFF
[01:07] <TDS> ...
[01:07] <bimberi> kooler: well duh, that's what this channel is for
[01:07] <com-guy> u must have a ppoe dsl account.   can't u set router to do the password for u
[01:07] <cYb3rc0re> com-guy I am geting ping reply from the rooter, but have to enter username and password somewhere
[01:08] <johanbr> frazmanw: I also have an X300 and I have a vague recollection of having to set the PCI id manually to get things to work. If you're having the same problem, the log will say something like "no screens found". lspci will tell you the PCI id, which you can then chuck into xorg.conf (see my file for an example). As far as I remember, I just installed the driver and fiddled a bit with xorg.conf.
[01:08] <cactii> kondi_, it is loaded... lsmod lists it...
[01:08] <kondi_> cactii : try another module if it doesn t done use ndiswrapper with windows driver I m use ndiswrapper and it work fine
[01:08] <en1gma> hey all wuzzup
[01:08] <kooler> A YA? IS THERE A CHANNEL FOR TALKIN ABOUT HEROIN ?
[01:08] <johanbr> frazmanw: Oh, and I used the ubuntu package.
[01:08] <cYb3rc0re> com-guy where do I set them?
[01:08] <TDS> kooler: #heroin
[01:08] <kondi_> cactii : can you test it with iwconfig
[01:08] <ompaul> I know what happened
[01:08] <cactii> kondi_, but how do I turn on my adaptor and tell Ubuntu to use it???
[01:09] <cactii> oooh
[01:09] <kondi_> cactii : can you test it with iwconfig
[01:09] <ompaul> some mad software that made ubuntu bootable with the msdos.com files
[01:09] <com-guy> cyb3rc0re, i saw a howto to do it under linux, but i just did my first linux install yesturday.  so i won't be much help there.  most routers will set up for ppoe though
[01:10] <en1gma> i just tried the dapper flight 2 live cd (kubuntu) but it dont connect me to net like kubuntu breezy but daper loads so much faster to get to DE...my Q is this: does ubuntu have a daper flight2 release and does it connect to net upon boot or does it have same probs as daper flight2 for kubuntu
[01:10] <kondi_> catii : use to aktive the interface ifup wlan0
[01:10] <cactii> kondi_, the output lists lo, eth0 and sit0 as no wireless extensions.
[01:10] <frazmanw> johanbr: i will look at that and see what i find
[01:10] <kondi_> catii : use to aktive the interface ifup wlan0
[01:10] <Forgott3n> Boot from CD:
[01:10] <Forgott3n> 1. FD 1.44MB System Type (0F)
[01:10] <Forgott3n> Starting PC DOS...
[01:10] <Forgott3n> [screen clears] 
[01:10] <Forgott3n> Preparing to start your computer.
[01:10] <Forgott3n> This may take a few minutes. Please wait...
[01:10] <Forgott3n> MSCDEX 2.25
[01:10] <Forgott3n> Copyright (C) IBM Corp. 1986-1994. All rights reserved.
[01:10] <Forgott3n> 	Drive C: = Driver MSCD001 unit 0
[01:10] <Forgott3n> 	Drive D: = Driver MSCD001 unit 1
[01:10] <johanbr> frazmanw: Alright. Good luck.
[01:10] <Forgott3n> The IBM Personal System/2 Mouse Program
[01:10] <Forgott3n> (C)Copyright Iternational Business Machines Corp 1987
[01:11] <Forgott3n> (C)Copyright Microsoft Corp 1983-1987
[01:11] <Forgott3n> Mouse driver installed successfully
[01:11] <ompaul> Forgott3n, STOP
[01:11] <gnomefreak> Forgott3n, don not paste in here
[01:11] <TDS> Lol.
[01:11] <gnomefreak> do*
[01:11] <WildTangent> where does mysql keep the database files by default on ubuntu?
[01:11] <com-guy> hello, help me out here.  i'm getting an error on a new install of ubuntu as server.  when i try to install apache, i get "no acceptable C compiler in...."  ?
[01:11] <cactii> kondi_,  cactii@Cactii-Net:~$ sudo ifup wlan0
[01:11] <cactii>  Ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0.
[01:11] <Forgott3n> and then is stops at A:\>
[01:11] <com-guy> anybody?
[01:11] <ompaul> Forgott3n, use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:11] <bimberi> com-guy: how are you installing apache?
[01:12] <wmcheesemaster> i will give sexual favors to whoever can help me out with this "ubuntu" thing
[01:12] <ompaul> Forgott3n, that is a dos boot disk you burnt onto a CD not ubuntu  1. FD 1.44MB System Type
[01:12] <com-guy> i know it's a "sudo apt-get install *"   command
[01:12] <en1gma> does ubuntu boot any faster then kubuntu
[01:12] <TDS> ompaul: My suspicions are confirmed.
[01:12] <Kovecses> wmcheesemaster, whats the problem ( no need for sexual favors)
[01:12] <bimberi> com-guy: sudo aptitude install apache2 (or just apache if you want version 1.3)
[01:12] <com-guy> something i need from the iso i installed ubuntu from
[01:12] <TDS> Forgott3n: Did you check an option like "make disk bootable" in your burner app?
[01:12] <Forgott3n> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7193
[01:12] <Forgott3n> yes
[01:12] <kondi_> cactii: i think the module isn t load,
[01:13] <TDS> Forgott3n: That's your problem.
[01:13] <_jason> com-guy, * = build-essential
[01:13] <TDS> Forgott3n: I assume when you did that it put a DOS boot loader on your disk.
[01:13] <wmcheesemaster> alright, im trying to install it on my old laptop, all well and good it restarts, now i'm stuck in the command line interface and ive no idea how to get it to run the GUI
[01:13] <com-guy> :)
[01:13] <com-guy> thanx
[01:13] <ompaul> Forgott3n, no just burn the disk as bootable, just  file to disk
[01:13] <Forgott3n> with no ISO formatting???
[01:13] <ompaul> Forgott3n, sorry do not burn as bootable
[01:13] <Forgott3n> just a simple data disk buirn?
[01:14] <TDS> In ISO format...
[01:14] <Belagio> Hey folks, I need some help. There's a nvidia.ko module in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile and another in /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/drivers/(blah blah blah). Well, the one in the volatile directory is not the correct module. I delete the file in there, and modprobe work, but when I reboot it magically reappears in the volatile directory. What the heck am I doing wrong?
[01:14] <ompaul> it is a file to disk
[01:14] <Kovecses> a ubuntu iso is what you need
[01:14] <kondi_> catii : can you see when you write lsmod that the used is greate 0
[01:14] <com-guy> i tried browsing the iso....you know how much stuff is on there to look through???
[01:14] <TDS> What options does your burner give you for file system
[01:14] <cactii> kondi_, Module                  Size  Used by
[01:14] <cactii> ipw2200                96680  0
[01:14] <TDS> Forgott3n: I'd recommend Ahead Nero - and choose burn as disk image.
[01:15] <TDS> That will do fine
[01:15] <Razor-X> does Sun Java support UTF-8 ?
[01:15] <bimberi> com-guy: does your server have an internet connection?
[01:15] <TDS> Later ompaul
[01:15] <kondi_> that is a faul module it isnt used          = Used = 0
[01:15] <kondi_> catti you must try another module
[01:16] <Forgott3n> well there goes some support
[01:16] <Forgott3n> :P
[01:16] <cactii> ok
[01:16] <TDS> Forgott3n: Alright use Nero, it should work.
[01:16] <Forgott3n> tell me exactly on the settings I should use
[01:16] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: But you're able to login in text mode, right? What happens if you do "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"?
[01:16] <kondi_> catti : or try ndiswrapper + windows driver
[01:16] <TDS> Forgott3n: Just use 'Disk Image' option
[01:16] <server_newbie> Which command do I use to copy a group of files into a folder creating that folder at the same time
[01:17] <WildTangent> where does mysql keep the database files by default on ubuntu?
[01:17] <kondi_> cACTII: APT-GET INSTALL ndiswrapper
[01:17] <rixth> Hi, could I get some help with this: http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?p=420077#post420077 I have posted my problem there.
[01:17] <kooler> wer gibt mir sachen alta
[01:17] <matthewjames> ompaul: i got the xorg.conf to come up, what do i do next?
[01:18] <wmcheesemaster> i'm not sure. I'm trying something else right now, which probably won't work, ill try that next, come back here shortly
[01:18] <kondi_> catti : ndiswrapper -i /path/to the / windws / win_driver.inf
[01:18] <cactii> kondi_, sourceforge has a driver for linux....
[01:19] <cactii> kondi_, for my card...
[01:19] <matthewjames> anyone know how to configure the xserver?
[01:19] <marcin> hello anyone here uses dapper?
[01:19] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:19] <johanbr> matthewjames: What's the problem, exactly?
[01:19] <kooler> hey amorph du ambe, a schieb mal stoff rber alta
[01:19] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[01:20] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[01:20] <kondi_> cactii ; if you user a source-module you must compiller you kernel-source
[01:20] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i know, that does not fix it
[01:20] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, than you dont want to configure xserver
[01:20] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i got the manuall edit to come up, what do i do there?
[01:20] <gnomefreak> you asked for command i gave it
[01:20] <odla> marcin: what's your question?
[01:20] <kondi_> cactii: try to compile the module driver
[01:20] <marcin> gnomefreak: well that's the problem - because I could use dapper almost without problems for few months
[01:20] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, i would install drivers for your video card
[01:20] <matthewjames> ati
[01:21] <rixth> server_newbie, cp -p I think
[01:21] <kondi_> cactii: if it work is fine
[01:21] <marcin> and now dapper is 100% broken... and I don't know what's going on
[01:21] <gnomefreak> marcin, they are gonna update it daily things may and will break
[01:21] <matthewjames> i did, from the restricted modules list, no such file or directory
[01:21] <marcin> is there something wrong with my machines or that's known issue
[01:21] <nbound> !sound
[01:21] <ubotu> hmm... sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[01:21] <odla> marcin: you shouldn't ask dapper questions here
[01:21] <marcin> that dapper is currently on this stage that can be broken
[01:21] <kooler> aaaaltaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[01:21] <odla> marcin: it would be presumed you can fix your own problems if you're running dapper
[01:22] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i did, from the restricted modules list, no such file or directory
[01:22] <odla> marcin: since dapper is in development...i.e. very unstable
[01:22] <marcin> odla: well propably yes...
[01:22] <marcin> odla: problem is that my dapper is not unstable ;)
[01:22] <marcin> odla: it's 100% broken because it doesn't want to boot at all
[01:22] <gnomefreak> marcin, all of dapper is unstable
[01:22] <en1gma> dapper is unstable
[01:23] <nbound> what is the best sound config to use for ubuntu and wine
[01:23] <en1gma> is there a dapper for Ubuntu
[01:23] <Razor-X> marcin: dapper is kinda... bleeding edge Ubuntu
[01:23] <en1gma> or just Kubuntu
[01:23] <gnomefreak> marcin, uninstall dapper and re-install breezy install dapper after april 20th
[01:23] <Razor-X> marcin: it's better this time around than Breezy before release, trust me
[01:23] <johanbr> marcin: My guess would be that your initramfs is broken. You'd probably have to boot from a rescue cd to fix it.
[01:23] <odla> marcin: 100% broken sounds unstable
[01:23] <matthewjames> gnomefreak: i did, from the restricted modules list, no such file or directory
[01:23] <cactii> kondi_, ok... this looks hard though... :D
[01:23] <wmcheesemaster> Alright, i entered "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" and it tells me "command not found"
[01:23] <nine09> is Ubuntu a good first timers Distro?
[01:23] <Razor-X> nine09: yeahpers
[01:23] <Kovecses> nine09, yes
[01:23] <nine09> k
[01:23] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, what video card do you have?
[01:23] <nbound> wmcheesemaster, try startx
[01:23] <nine09> i'm gettin the live CD now
[01:24] <Kovecses> nine09, probably the best
[01:24] <Razor-X> how would I get Japanese input to display correctly in a Java program that touts UTF-8 support?
[01:24] <matthewjames> ati x200
[01:24] <en1gma> Kubuntu daper dont config your network upon boot
[01:24] <wmcheesemaster> ooh its doing something
[01:24] <Kovecses> nine09, livecd is slow
[01:24] <marcin> Razor-X: well I know what dapper is - problem is that dapper was pretty usable for me and I only had small issues that I could report
[01:24] <odla> marcin: if you're patient wait a few days and install flight 3
[01:24] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell matthewjames about ati
[01:24] <nine09> don't feel like partitioning HD
[01:24] <matthewjames> he already did
[01:24] <marcin> Razor-X: bugs to bugzilla
[01:24] <nbound> what is the best sound config to use for ubuntu??
[01:24] <nine09> maybe later
[01:24] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Alright, that's one problem right there. Try doing "sudo apt-get install gdm gnome-desktop-environment" and be prepared to wait a while.
[01:24] <kondi_> engle: test /etc/network/interfaces
[01:24] <gilles> how do u play mp3 files ?
[01:25] <Kovecses> xmms
[01:25] <mwe> !mp3
[01:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:25] <Kyral> Beep
[01:25] <Razor-X> marcin: well, that's what Unstable is ;)
[01:25] <Razor-X> at one moment usable, at another broken
[01:25] <Kovecses> yeah beep-media-player is better
[01:25] <en1gma> did anyone read what i wrote
[01:25] <marcin> Razor-X: suddenly after apt-get dist-upgrade dapper says that Alert! no /dev/hdh1 found dropping to shell etc....
[01:25] <kondi_> gilles : use mp3box
[01:25] <en1gma> i said is daper for both Kubuntu and Ubuntu or just Kubuntu
[01:25] <Kovecses> en1gma, yes and?
[01:25] <Kyral> Dapper is both
[01:25] <Kyral> and Xubuntu
[01:25] <gnomefreak> both
[01:25] <marcin> Razor-X: well I agree ;)
[01:25] <Razor-X> en1gma: you can install either in Dapper
[01:25] <Kyral> and Edubuntu ;P
[01:25] <Kovecses> en1gma, oh
[01:25] <wmcheesemaster> i got the error "couldn't find package gnome-desktop-environment
[01:26] <nbound> en1gma, all ubuntu distros ah syncronised
[01:26] <marcin> Razor-X: but how to hell developers can develop broken system ;)
[01:26] <gilles> yep, but i can't install gstreamer0.8-mad either
[01:26] <marcin> ?
[01:26] <mwe> marcin: so I guess that what you can expect for alfa releases?
[01:26] <nbound> are*
[01:26] <en1gma> does daper for Ubuntu work cause daper for kubuntu dont config my network settings
[01:26] <Kovecses> wmcheesemaster, its ubuntu-desktop
[01:26] <wmcheesemaster> ahh 1 sec
[01:26] <gnomefreak> marcin, its not released to the public yet it is for testers
[01:26] <en1gma> i cant connect to net on a reboot
[01:26] <nbound> en1gma, you'll probly have the sam prob in both
[01:26] <en1gma> ahhh okie thats what i was thinking
[01:26] <marcin> gnomefreak: ok ok I'll wait for flight3
[01:26] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: That's strange. Which release of ubuntu are you running?
[01:26] <nbound> what is the best sound config (in multimedia systems selector) to use for ubuntu??
[01:27] <Kyral> nbound: whatever works?
[01:27] <spine> anyone know of a game laucher for launching games on an extra x-server?
[01:27] <Kovecses> nbound, default
[01:27] <gnomefreak> dapper will be breaking everyday or so as they fix issues with it it has alot of bugs and should not be used by people that dont know what they are doing
[01:27] <Kovecses> nbound, or alsa
[01:27] <wmcheesemaster> ummm the CD says 5.10
[01:27] <nbound> both sink and source?
[01:27] <marcin> gnomefreak: it's just weird because I just thought that dapper is in this stage that can be partially broken - small gnome issues etc.
[01:27] <Kovecses> wmcheesemaster, just go through the install and you will have gnome by defualt
[01:28] <spine> anyone know of a game laucher for launching games on an extra x-server?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> marcin, unstable = may crash and not be brought back up
[01:28] <odla> marcin: it's in development
[01:28] <nbound> Kovecses, both sink and source?
[01:28] <gnomefreak> anything can happen the code is not finished
[01:28] <nbound> for alsa?
[01:28] <marcin> gnomefreak: but I didn't expect such critical problems
[01:28] <wmcheesemaster> thats what i've done, like 3 times, but it always just reboots and i get the text console thing
[01:28] <Kovecses> nbound, why not just leave the default
[01:28] <odla> marcin: give it up
[01:28] <gnomefreak> marcin, expect them till atleast march
[01:28] <mwe> marcin: see what expect does
[01:28] <TDS> Forgott3n: You stil there?
[01:28] <Forgott3n> ok I got a quick question
[01:28] <odla> marcin: use dapper and don't complain about it breaking or use breezy
[01:28] <Forgott3n> yes
[01:28] <Forgott3n> I am
[01:28] <TDS> Forgott3n: Yes?
[01:28] <nbound> Kovecses, because im trying to get vicecity goin its best
[01:28] <marcin> odla: sure I installed breezy
[01:28] <TDS> Forgott3n: What's the question...
[01:28] <wmcheesemaster> do i need it to be connected to the internet? does it have to download anything?
[01:29] <Kovecses> nbound, so ... the default sound settings will work... just turn off enable sound server
[01:29] <gnomefreak> ive been using dapper since flight 1 i gave it up for a reason
[01:29] <Kyral> I have been using Dapper since the repos opened ;P
[01:29] <mwe> someone has to test it
[01:29] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: It's an advantage to have an internet connection but not really necessary. It's strange that gnome wasn't installed though. Did the install complete normally?
[01:29] <Forgott3n> in  the CD-R program I currently use, NTI, under filesystem what should I have? Joilet, MS-DOS file names, Romeo, or UDF
[01:29] <Kovecses> very true
[01:29] <Forgott3n> or and ISO 9660
[01:30] <Forgott3n> level 1 compliant?
[01:30] <Kyral> Then again if something breaks, I find it a learning experiance fixing it ;P
[01:30] <wmcheesemaster> yeah i think so, no errors or anything, though it was running in low-ram mode
[01:30] <gnomefreak> alphas are not meant to be tested by anyone that does not know what they are doing
[01:30] <Kovecses> johanbr, it was installed ... his x probably just isnt working
[01:30] <lukus001> is it possible to "undo" somthing that you've done in synaptical packagemanger, i.e. remove installed file without having to manually select each one?
[01:30] <spine> so none knows of a gamelauncher/X-server mannager?
[01:30] <moyote> If anyone uses xmms, I was wondering why the fonts are pretty ugly in the menus?
[01:30] <moyote> in my xmms, that is. :-)
[01:31] <johanbr> Kovecses: But attempting to restart gdm gave him "unknown command". Something's missing.
[01:31] <Kovecses> moyote, use beep-media-player....
[01:31] <menkent> can anyone help me install a couple truetype fonts for openoffice? i can get them to appear in the list, but they don't appear when i try to type with them... must be doing something wrong
[01:31] <_jason> moyote, use beep
[01:31] <marcin> Kyral: sure... and I had dapper on my second machine because I just like to use something "fresh" but I also would like to help in development - reporting bugs etc.
[01:31] <Forgott3n> beep is good
[01:31] <moyote> Kovecses, ok beep it is
[01:31] <nbound> what audio driver should i choose in winecfg????
[01:31] <Kovecses> moyote, same as xmms but way better fonts
[01:31] <moyote> ty all
[01:31] <spine> alsa
[01:31] <marcin> Kyral: but currently I have to give up because I just cannot boot dapper ;>
[01:31] <bimberi> lukus001: no (unfortunately)
[01:31] <mwe> if people are prepared to face probelems I'd running dapper is fine. it helps in the end if they report bugs
[01:31] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Does the machine have an internet connection at the moment?
[01:32] <menkent> do i have to restart X to get the fonts usable?
[01:32] <lukus001> bimberi, ok thanks ill just format tomoz :P
[01:32] <nbound> the more ppl who get dapper crash on them the quicker we get a stable version
[01:32] <Forgott3n> $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$] ] 
[01:32] <Kovecses> wmcheesemaster, did you go through the whole install
[01:32] <wmcheesemaster> not now, it wasn't detecting the PC card during install
[01:32] <mwe> Forgott3n: don't be lame
[01:32] <bimberi> lukus001: wow, sounds drastic!  you could have a look at debfoster
[01:32] <Forgott3n> Sorry, that's a keyboard error =x
[01:32] <odla> nbound: ha ha ha that's no how it owrks
[01:32] <lukus001> debfoster?
[01:33] <odla> not how it works
[01:33] <bimberi> !info debfoster
[01:33] <ubotu> debfoster: (Install only wanted Debian packages), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 2.5-4ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 32 kB, Installed size: 164 kB
[01:33] <nbound> odla, it is as far as im concerned ;)
[01:33] <wmcheesemaster> i'm pretty sure i went thru the whole install, but if it would help i'll reformat it again
[01:33] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: What happens if you do "ls /usr/bin/gnome*" Do you get a long list of filenames scrolling by, all starting with "gnome" ?
[01:33] <Razor-X> how would I get Japanese input to display correctly in a Java program that touts UTF-8 support?
[01:33] <lukus001> bimberi i still dont fully understand fromthe bot ^^;;
[01:33] <Forgott3n> mwe: Don't jump to conclusions.
[01:33] <bimberi> lukus001: yeah, this one is better ...
[01:34] <bimberi> !debfoster
[01:34] <mwe> Forgott3n: why did you type that crap?
[01:34] <ubotu> I guess debfoster is A command to weed unnecessary .deb packages. See http://www.fruit.eu.org/debfoster/ and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2440
[01:34] <marcin> hmm there is wiki page with daper goals/bounties.. I cannot find it.. maybe someone here has an url?
[01:34] <wmcheesemaster> it says "no such file or directory"
[01:34] <Kovecses> bbl
[01:34] <lukus001> bimberi, ah, so it removes pretty much all program ecept base files?
[01:34] <foznot> with audacity my system is only playing the right channel, how do i turn on the left channel with ubuntu badger?
[01:34] <Forgott3n> mwe: I told you, it was computer lag. I inadvertently clicked on the mIRC icon while in Firefox, and Windows lagged out, while I was typing which put it in the mIRC input box.
[01:35] <bimberi> lukus001: it removes dependencies that are no longer needed
[01:35] <mwe> Forgott3n: well sorry then. It looked like spam
[01:35] <Forgott3n> mwe: It's no problem =)
[01:35] <moyote> Can you change skins in beep?
[01:35] <menkent> so erm, no tips on installing fonts?
[01:35] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: That means gnome was definitely NOT installed. What happens if you do "more /etc/apt/sources.list"? Do you see a line starting out with something like "deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy..." ?
[01:35] <mwe> moyote: yes
[01:35] <lukus001> bimberi, ok ty
[01:36] <mathew> mkyb14, thanks man! Everything is working well.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell menkent about fonts
[01:36] <bimberi> lukus001: yw :)
[01:36] <mwe> moyote: you can use winamp skins
[01:36] <moyote> mwe: thanks
[01:36] <mwe> moyote: the default skin sucks
[01:36] <mkyb14> k
[01:36] <moyote> It really does. :-)
[01:36] <menkent> thx, will see if that helps
[01:36] <mwe> moyote: you have to use wsz winamp skins though
[01:36] <wmcheesemaster> yeah that shows up, with like 2 pages of notes
[01:37] <mwe> moyote: skinz.org
[01:37] <moyote> mwe: can u use xmms skins?
[01:37] <nine09> how likely is it that a wifi card manufactuer will list Linux as a supported OS?
[01:37] <Forgott3n> in  the CD-R program I currently use, NTI, under filesystem what should I have? Joilet, MS-DOS file names, Romeo, or UDF. or ISO - what should I use
[01:37] <mwe> moyote: just put the skin in ~/.bmp/Skins and choose it from the menu
[01:37] <mwe> moyote: yes xmms skins should work as well
[01:37] <odla> nine09: slim...but there is likely a linux driver out there already though
[01:38] <moyote> mwe:ty on my way to skinz.org :-)
[01:38] <gnomefreak> Forgott3n, in ubuntu or windows?
[01:38] <nine09> you ever heard of buffalo technology?
[01:38] <gnomefreak> ms-dos isnt linux :(
[01:38] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Okay, that's good. If the installation CD is not in your drive, put it in. Then do "apt-get update", wait for that to complete, and then try "apt-get install gdm gnome-core".
[01:38] <nine09> i'm trying to find a wifi card that has an external antenna option
[01:38] <mwe> moyote: be sure to get the right type of winamp skins though, wsz ones
[01:38] <wmcheesemaster> alright ill give it a go
[01:39] <moyote> mwe: ok, thanks
[01:39] <Forgott3n> gnomefreak: Windows.
[01:39] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Oh, and I forgot: you should put an "sudo" in front of those commands.
[01:39] <gnomefreak> Forgott3n, try #windows
[01:39] <gnomefreak> this is #ubuntu
[01:40] <wmcheesemaster> i tried "apt-get update" and it says Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock (13 permissions denied)
[01:40] <mwe> wmcheesemaster: close synaptic
[01:40] <Forgott3n> gnomefreak: It's help installing Ubuntu...
[01:40] <Forgott3n> gnomefreak: I need to know what format to use...
[01:40] <mwe> wmcheesemaster: and use sudo
[01:40] <mwe> wmcheesemaster: sudo apt-get update
[01:40] <rixth> Hi, could I get some help with this: http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?p=420077#post420077 I have posted my problem there.
[01:40] <kondi_> gnomefrak The apt-get process is running
[01:40] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Put an "sudo" in front of those commands I wrote. I forgot about that. :)
[01:40] <DonL> Hi folks. I'm just trying out the new Opera. It has mail and irc in it. The irc looks good so far.
[01:40] <wmcheesemaster> alright now its doing it
[01:41] <gnomefreak> Forgott3n, iso
[01:41] <wmcheesemaster> i got a lot to lurn bout linux
[01:41] <Xnos> hi... how can i  run vnc server into a linux to linux... without login first in the remote machine... doing it from the server machine
[01:41] <ruhan> On my ubuntu server install my card is trying to run at 100mbps when it should be only 10mbps. What config file do I need to change to make it run at 10mbps, and how?
[01:41] <moyote> mwe: how do I know if the skin is wsz?
[01:41] <mwe> moyote: download it
[01:41] <mwe> moyote: most of them are
[01:41] <kondi_> gnome freak you must use killall  apt-get
[01:42] <nine09> all classic winamp skins are
[01:42] <moyote> mwe; ok, then. ty again.
[01:42] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Alright, cool. The sudo part means that the command will run with root (aka super-user, aka admin) privileges.
[01:42] <TDS> Forgott3n: Yo, what's the status
[01:42] <wmcheesemaster> ahh ok
[01:43] <gnomefreak> kondi_, why do i need to kill all?
[01:43] <johanbr> ruhan: I think ethtool lets you set things like that. Try "man ethtool".
[01:44] <ruhan> johanbr thanks
[01:44] <wmcheesemaster> ive tried "sudo apt-get install gdm gnome-core" and it's saying its not available and "E: pakage gnome-core has no installation candidate"
[01:45] <DonL> mwe: I'm a Firefox addict, but I like to try out new things. When Opera went free without the ads, I had to try it. Looks good, but some of the streaming stuff doesn't work as well, I find. Maybe in the future.
[01:45] <poningru> ?
[01:45] <mwe> DonL: yeah
[01:45] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Hmm. What does it say if you just do "sudo apt-get install gdm" ?
[01:45] <Xnos> hi... how can i  run vnc server into a linux to linux... without login first in the remote machine... doing it from the server machine
[01:45] <mwe> DonL: well actually it's kinda ok. I just like ff better
[01:46] <wmcheesemaster> alright it's installing that
[01:46] <kondi_> gnome :because the process is used several times
[01:46] <DonL> mwe: I like the tabs in Firefox a lot
[01:46] <moyote> mwe: so after the skin is downloaded and placed in ~/.bmp/Skins should it be available on the options menu? I can't seem to find it.
[01:47] <kondi_> you run more instances of apt-get
[01:47] <acidfu> Hi ;) , I'm trying to play mp4 files with totem, and I get no sound, some one have a clue ? thanks !
[01:47] <mwe> moyote: it was here
[01:47] <mwe> moyote: restart bmp though
[01:47] <kondi_> gnomefrak : because your run more instances of apt-get
[01:48] <Forgott3n> TDS: My computer is crashing.
[01:48] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Ok, that's a good first step. If you now try installing a program that's part of gnome, it should automatically bring in all the other programs that are needed. Try "sudo apt-get install gnome-terminal".
[01:48] <moyote> hmm, I did but not there. hmmmmm
[01:48] <wmcheesemaster> alright ill try tha next
[01:48] <DonL> Forgott3n: what's the  problem?
[01:48] <Forgott3n> DonL: Just Windows =x
[01:48] <DonL> Forgott3n: ahh. Well, there you go
[01:49] <moyote> mwe: aha, just discovered the preferences menu, duhhh
[01:49] <Forgott3n> DonL: Heh.
[01:49] <mwe> moyote: heh
[01:50] <moyote> mwe: however the skin must not be in the right format, because it doesn't show up.
[01:50] <mwe> moyote: did you restart bmp?
[01:50] <moyote> mwe, yes
[01:50] <rixth> Hi, could I get some help with this: http://pressf1.co.nz/showthread.php?p=420077#post420077 I have posted my problem there.
[01:50] <mwe> moyote: what kind of skin is it?
[01:51] <moyote> mwe, how do I know that?
[01:51] <johnblade> I have a minor issue, i have setup mythtv on ubuntu and everything is going great - just one minor issue i have is that if I leave the machine for too long it goes into a blank screen
[01:51] <mwe> moyote: what's the etension name?
[01:51] <CuriousCat> good morning!
[01:51] <johnblade> I have disabled the screensavers, it seems to be some type of energy saver thing.  Any idea what it could be ?
[01:51] <moyote> think I'll go to winamp skins. .zip
[01:51] <kondi_> good morning
[01:52] <mwe> moyote: and did you put it in /home/moyote/.bmp/Skins ?
[01:52] <moyote> I did
[01:52] <mwe> moyote: gotta be wsz files I think
[01:52] <DonL> johnblade: could be something in your bios
[01:52] <CuriousCat> I was able to wipe my hard drive yesterday. The partitions are stable now.
[01:52] <johanbr> ogra: My Dapper is missing all the icons in the gnome panel menus (so they're just text). Is that something the developers are aware of, or should I file a bug?
[01:52] <moyote> Let me check my work. :-)
[01:52] <mwe> moyote: I couldn't get the zip skins to work
[01:52] <km0> I ahve installed sshd well openssh server but I can;t see how to start it
[01:52] <johnblade> DonL hmm good idea i should check that out
[01:52] <mwe> moyote: maybe unzip it and see if a wsz file is inside
[01:52] <km0> I looked for /etc/init.d/sshd -start but no joy
[01:52] <moyote> Ok, i'll keep working here.
[01:53] <CuriousCat> Though instead of doing a normal install, i opted to go server mode and use xfce instead. Now I'm having trouble with configuring the network.
[01:53] <mwe> moyote: I downloaded one the was packed like that
[01:53] <Nihil85> hi! i have many problems with ubuntu: i cannot set the time, i cannot create a wi-fi lan between 2 ubuntu pc, i cannot watch wmv movies even if i installed the right codecs, the system freezes 2-3 times a day.
[01:53] <nvez> hey, gnome is not giving any resolutions than 1024x728 and less
[01:53] <nvez> how can I increase?
[01:53] <ogra> johanbr, works fine here ... and i havent heard anything like that yet ...
[01:53] <CuriousCat> Would anyone know what file I need to edit and how to specify using either DHCP or a static IP?
[01:53] <mwe> !tell nvez about fixres
[01:53] <ogra> johanbr, do you use the default icon theme ?
[01:54] <moyote> mwe: what skins site did you use?
[01:54] <nvez> thanks mwe.
[01:54] <johanbr> ogra: No, I'm using tango icons.
[01:54] <DonL> Nihil85: Wow! That's a lot of problems
[01:54] <mwe> moyote: skinz.org
[01:54] <CuriousCat> or is there a package i can download so I can do the settings through a GUI?
[01:54] <moyote> mwe: ok, that's where I am.
[01:54] <Nihil85> DonL, yes!! i'm not new to linux, so they're not "easy"problems
[01:54] <kondi_> km0: you can start it used /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[01:54] <mwe> moyote: just get a wsz one and you should be good
[01:54] <DonL> Nihil85: Are you dual booting?
[01:54] <ogra> johanbr, probably an error in tango then, try is the default icons work ... if so, file a bug on tango-icon-theme
[01:54] <km0> oh sweet it'sw was already running
[01:55] <moyote> mwe: thanks
[01:55] <Nihil85> DonL, yes
[01:55] <km0> thanks kondi_
[01:55] <johanbr> ogra: Alright. Thank you.
[01:55] <DonL> Nihil85: When you leave it in Windows, does it do the same thing?
[01:55] <wmcheesemaster> alright its done installing(?) that gdm thing, gonna do "install gnome-terminal" now
[01:55] <kondi_> kno: work it ?
[01:55] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Alright. So far so good. :)
[01:56] <Nihil85> DonL, no. in windows everything's ok. I cannot even create a boot connection for internet... there are a lot of problems
[01:56] <zoexii> hello,  how do I look at the source code for a program that comes with ubuntu??
[01:56] <wmcheesemaster> w00t it's not being angry
[01:56] <johanbr> zoexii: apt-get source name-of-package
[01:57] <DonL> Nihil85: Are you on broadband?
[01:57] <wmcheesemaster> alrighty, supposidly its done setting up "gnome-terminal"
[01:58] <navyn> anybody using ubuntu for ppc?
[01:58] <zoexii> johanbr, alright... how do I know the name of the package??  in this case, I want to see the code for the solitaire game.  The command to launch is 'sol'  but apt-get knows of no such package...
[01:58] <navyn> I have it on an imac g3, and  i cannot get the flash to install on firefox
[01:58] <Nihil85> DonL, yes
[01:58] <wmcheesemaster> can i just restart it now?
[01:58] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Okay. Try "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" and hope for the best.
[01:58] <wmcheesemaster> ok cool
[01:58] <navyn> i'm using the instructions on the restricted formats wiki, and it still doesn't work
[01:58] <Nihil85> DonL, can i bother you in private? the channel is confusing me
[01:58] <k3rn_> hi!
[01:58] <DonL> Nihil85: You burned a copy of Ubuntu Breezy?
[01:59] <johanbr> zoexii: "apt-cache search solitaire" shows that you're probably looking for the gnome-games package.
[01:59] <k3rn_> is there a german ubuntu channel on the net?
[01:59] <DonL> Nihil85: Yes, of course you can
[01:59] <Forgott3n> IT WORKS!
[01:59] <Forgott3n> now whats LVM?
[01:59] <Nihil85> DonL, i'm just calling you
[01:59] <Kyral> Something you don't have to bother with
[02:00] <wmcheesemaster> yay i think its working
[02:00] <Forgott3n> [!!]  Partition disks
[02:00] <johanbr> Forgott3n: Logical Volume Manager. Fancy way of partitioning your hard drive.
[02:00] <Nihil85> DonL, do you have a registered nick?
[02:00] <zoexii> johanbr, right on, it is downloading... where will it save the files?
[02:00] <Forgott3n> so use it?
[02:00] <cafuego> Forgott3n: if you don't know what LVM is, stay away from it.
[02:00] <kondi_> k3rn :was hast du fuer problem
[02:00] <Forgott3n> ok thx
[02:00] <johanbr> zoexii: I think they end up in the current directory.
[02:00] <zoexii> johanbr, right on.  thanks.
[02:00] <k3rn_> hm nen paar kleinigkeiten - hab mir gerade mal ubuntu auf nem virtual vmware machine installiert
[02:01] <cafuego> !de
[02:01] <k3rn_> ein ding ist zb wie stell ich die auflsung von gnome hher als 1024x768?
[02:01] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:01] <kondi_> k3rn : erzahl mal
[02:01] <k3rn_> wrd gern 1280*1024 fahrn
[02:01] <nvez> !fr
[02:01] <wmcheesemaster> ok its showing the whole desktop thing, and a window(?) that looks like the command line thing
[02:01] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:01] <navarone> k3rn #ubuntu-de
[02:01] <k3rn_> okay
[02:02] <cafuego> Anders ga ik fijn in het nederlands lullen.
[02:02] <ruhan> johanbr when I tried sudo ethtool s eth0 speed 10, which should have done it, I get "Cannot get current device settings: Operation not supported not setting speed"
[02:02] <omerix> is there someone who use siemens sx1 in linux
[02:03] <ruhan> excuse me, johanbr, it was sudo ethtool -s eth0 speed 10
[02:03] <kondi_> k3rn versuche mal  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[02:03] <kondi_>  die werte zu editieren
[02:03] <ImpeachNow> location of wmv codec?
[02:04] <cafuego> kondi_: Kannst du nach #ubuntu-de gehen bitte? Hier reden wir auf Englisch.
[02:04] <kondi_> ok
[02:04] <ImpeachNow> ?
[02:05] <ImpeachNow> yeah so uh could someone tell me where the codecs are?
[02:05] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: Cool! That's probably your login prompt. It's strange that gnome didn't install correctly, but now you at least have the basics. I'd recommend that you get your internet connection set up, then set up apt-get to fetch everything from the internet. That means that you replace your current /etc/apt/sources.list with the stuff that can be found for instance at http://my.opera.com/mysurface/blog/show.dml/93790 . I.e., once you get 
[02:06] <MrRio> hey, i kinda, overwrote my /etc/apt/sources.list *blush*
[02:06] <MrRio> can someone paste me the default one?
[02:06] <johanbr> ruhan: Hmm.. That's weird. There's also mii-tool which lets you do similar things. You might try that.
[02:07] <johanbr> MrRio: See the my.opera.com link that I just posted.
[02:07] <wmcheesemaster> alrighty thanks for the help. i'm sure settin up the internet connections gonna be tough
[02:07] <ruhan> ok, will do. I'm actually gonna check what the card is though first, and make sure it's not getting josled out of it's PCI spot or something
[02:08] <moyote> wme: thanks for your help, skins are working.
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> ImpeachNow, You're looking for the w32codecs package.  The restrictedformats wiki page has a link.
[02:08] <TDS> Forgott3n: How is the install goin'
[02:08] <ImpeachNow> thnx
[02:09] <ImpeachNow> also I must say ubuntu is the killer app!
[02:09] <ImpeachNow> later
[02:09] <MatchBot> perfect
[02:09] <kondi_> its doesn t work
[02:09] <johanbr> wmcheesemaster: You're welcome. If you're lucky, setting up the internet connection may be as simple as plugging in the cable and doing "sudo ifup eth0".
[02:09] <MrRio> johanbr: cheers, how does this one differ from the proper one?
[02:09] <TDS> Huh.
[02:10] <johanbr> MrRio: I don't think the official one has the backports stuff, that's the only significant difference.
[02:10] <ubuntu> hi fuckers
[02:10] <Kyral> ...
[02:10] <Kyral> no cursing
[02:10] <PuMpErNi1kLe> ...
[02:10] <gfxstyler> whats up with you
[02:11] <ubuntu> wassssap
[02:11] <gfxstyler> nothing & you?
[02:11] <ubuntu> watching some porn
[02:11] <ubuntu> jk
[02:11] <gfxstyler> lol
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> Too late john.
[02:11] <PuMpErNi1kLe> suuuuuuure.....
[02:11] <Kyral> lol
[02:11] <nine09> do you think a wifi card will be automatically recognized or will i have to manually config it?
[02:11] <PuMpErNi1kLe> Meh, we can always ban his hostmask :>
[02:11] <Kyral> nine09: maybe ;P
[02:12] <gfxstyler> nine09: depends on your card
[02:12] <PuMpErNi1kLe> nine09: I give you an 80% chance.
[02:12] <johanbr> nine09: Can be anything from "automatic" to "completely unsupported".
[02:12] <nine09> Ok
[02:12] <gfxstyler> nine09: if its supported or if its ndiswrapper its easy
[02:12] <nine09> this is kinda the part that bothers me moviing from Windows
[02:13] <johanbr> nine09: Do you already have the card?
[02:13] <nine09> no i'm looking at them now
[02:13] <gfxstyler> nine09: just look up if the card is supported or not
[02:13] <nine09> gonna use some rebate money to buy one
[02:13] <nine09> look up where?
[02:13] <nine09> goog?
[02:13] <gfxstyler> nine09: if you dont already have one then buy a card which has linux support
[02:13] <nine09> does ubuntu's wiki list cards?
[02:14] <foampeace> anyone know of some simple software rthat will download tv listingins?
[02:14] <gfxstyler> im looking for some english site wait a sec
[02:14] <johanbr> nine09: rt2500 chipsets are well supported. Broadcom support is still experimental, but moving along nicely. Atheros is pretty good from what I've heard. Prism54 cards are also well supported, but hard to get hold of.
[02:14] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: it's never too late to quiet a troll
[02:14] <nine09> k
[02:14] <odla> nine09: get an orinoco gold pcmcia card...works out of the box ubuntu, debian, and slackware at least if not more
[02:15] <johanbr> odla: Aren't those 11b, though?
[02:15] <nine09> i'll check the chipsets
[02:16] <odla> johanbr: orinoco?
[02:16] <odla> johanbr: no it's a driver
[02:16] <nine09> wow, the ubuntu live cd DL'ed fast
[02:16] <johanbr> odla: yes.
[02:16] <z0rz> I installed kubuntu-desktop and rebooted and a kde like login screen came up but gnome loaded when I logged in
[02:16] <odla> johanbr: oh you said 11b i thought you said lib
[02:16] <z0rz> How do I get kde to load?
[02:16] <odla> johanbr: yes
[02:16] <gfxstyler> does somebody here uses the ati 8.20 drivers ?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> z0rz, Select it from the Sessions menu.
[02:17] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: at the 'sessions' menu of your login screen
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> z0rz, At this point you have both available to you.
[02:17] <johanbr> gfxstyler: I do.
[02:17] <z0rz> When I select that.. will it become the default?
[02:17] <newuser> got a problem, ubuntu killed my win xp partition. and ubuntu only loads to terminal.
[02:17] <gfxstyler> johanbr: and it did install the proper 8.20 module?
[02:17] <newuser> need some help to recover
[02:18] <nine09> you needed to partition the drive before you installed it
[02:18] <johndarkhorse> z0rz: it will ask
[02:18] <gfxstyler> johanbr: everytime i install the 8.20 drivers i get an 8.16 module
[02:18] <newuser> I did.
[02:18] <nine09> ouch
[02:18] <z0rz> ok another thing.... how can I determine what sound card I have w/o opening the case?
[02:18] <nine09> that sux
[02:18] <Forgott3n`> whatys the difference between Desktop and Server mode?
[02:18] <johanbr> gfxstyler: I think the kernel module is in linux-restricted-modules-something, not in xorg-driver-fglrx. Or do you mean the Xorg driver?
[02:18] <tonyyarusso> newuser, Killed as in Windows is actually screwed, or your boot manager isn't letting you get to it?  (If you know.)
[02:18] <newuser> yes it does
[02:18] <Forgott3n`> do either come with apache2
[02:18] <nine09> z0rz if you dual boot nix/win you can use a prog called aida32
[02:19] <gfxstyler> johanbr: no the fglrx one your right
[02:19] <z0rz> or I can "lspci"
[02:19] <newuser> win will start to the windows splash screen then reboot.
[02:19] <z0rz> I just tried that and it worked great..A.
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> !info aida32
[02:19] <gfxstyler> johanbr: but no matter what i do it always compiles a 8.16 module and uses the 8.20 drivers, its really weird
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> nine09, Where's that from / what's it do?
[02:20] <unknown_vista> hi!
[02:20] <nine09> it analyzes your system but only runs under win
[02:20] <menko> hi, I'm trying to compile fluxbox. I installed the gcc package, but it gives me this error: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:20] <nine09> thats why i said if you dual boot, use it
[02:20] <macgeek_> Anyone use WordPress on Ubuntu?
[02:20] <johanbr> gfxstyler: If you use an ubuntu kernel + linux-restricted-modules + xorg-driver-fglrx, you shouldn't have to compile anything.
[02:20] <z0rz> Ok so I have the AC97 audio chipset... but ubuntu doesn't regonizes it by default... how can I install the drivers?
[02:20] <gfxstyler> johanbr: if i install the 8.20 package the same thing happens
[02:20] <TDS> Forgott3n: Never mind.
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> newuser, I wonder if it's not chainloading properly?
[02:21] <gfxstyler> johanbr: its like magic, even on a fresh ubuntu install it installs the fglrx 8.16 module instead of the 8.20 even when i download the 8.20 package right off ati.com ... its scary already
[02:21] <johanbr> gfxstyler: My Xorg.0.log says "compiled for 6.8.99.8, module version = 8.20.8". Does yours say 8.16 ?
[02:21] <nine09> chainloading?
[02:21] <TDS> Forgott3n: It'll work fine with default.
[02:21] <newuser> ?? don't know
[02:21] <nine09> never heard that term before
[02:21] <gfxstyler> johanbr: mine said 8.16 and driver 8.20
[02:22] <macgeek_> Does anyone host their own WordPress blog on a Ubuntu system?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> nine09, Having a bootloader load another bootloader.  As in, grub calling the Windows one.
[02:22] <gfxstyler> johanbr: it only happens with ubuntu, when i do the same procedure on gentoo for example it works
[02:23] <nine09> oh
[02:23] <johanbr> gfxstyler: When you say "driver", do you mean just below "Loading /.../fglrx_drv.so" ?
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> newuser, Could you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> !pastebin
[02:23] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:23] <nine09> i guess i need a bootloader if i'm gonna run linux without Live CD
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> nine09, Grub gets used by default in the install.
[02:24] <nine09> oh ok
[02:24] <gfxstyler> johanbr: i mean it says in Xorg.0.log "incompatible kernel module detected: 8.16 ... disabling dri blablabla"  (im at my windows notebook right now, i can not look it up)
[02:24] <nine09> i dont want to screw up my win partition
[02:24] <ruhan> ok johanbr? my network card just started working out of nowhere. I had just let the computer sit for a while
[02:24] <cafuego> z0rz: AC97 isn't a chipset.
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> nine09, I installed Ubuntu dual-boot with Windows XP on two different computers, and they're just fine.
[02:25] <nine09> heh, thats kinda ironic. VB_coder in ubuntu room
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> !dualboot
[02:25] <ubotu> from memory, dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[02:25] <johanbr> gfxstyler: My guess would be that you have linux-restricted-modules installed and that that's conflicting with your self-compiled kernel module. Try removing l-r-m.
[02:25] <menko> hi, I'm trying to compile fluxbox. I installed the gcc package, but it gives me this error: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[02:26] <cafuego> menko: Any reason you're not just installing the precompiled fluxbox?
[02:26] <johanbr> ruhan: Strange. I guess the autonegotiation decided to start working for some reason. Oh well, at least it's working now. :)
[02:26] <ruhan> johanbr we'll see if it keeps working though. Thanks for your help!
[02:26] <gfxstyler> johanbr: i remember when i used my own kernel instead of a precompiled one it worked - so it has to be ubuntus fault in some way
[02:27] <newuser> tonyyarusso: my duel boot is on my primary machine. and I am not familiar with ubuntu. ie copying files to cd from terminal.
[02:27] <Kovecses> ok i might get flamed for this question... but what is your guys second favorite distro?
[02:27] <menko> cafuego: because it's old
[02:27] <Kovecses> newuser, cdrw?
[02:27] <nine09> i've only used knoppix so far
[02:27] <CuriousCat> !ndiswrapper
[02:27] <ubotu> ndiswrapper is, like, totally, a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> newuser, I've never copied files to CD from terminal either.
[02:28] <cafuego> menko: So you think that by compiling when you have no idea what you're doing you're going to end up with something that actually works?
[02:28] <CuriousCat> !network
[02:28] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[02:28] <z0rz> Ok so I have the AC97 audio chipset... but ubuntu doesn't regonizes it by default... how can I install the drivers?
[02:28] <menko> cafuego: I've compiled it before
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Ubuntu was the first one I tried, and I have had no reason to keep looking.
[02:28] <menko> cafuego: it's not working on ubuntu though
[02:28] <vb_coder> nine09: i do most coding in java
[02:28] <nine09> oh ok, i was j/k
[02:28] <johanbr> gfxstyler: I vaguely remember that building the kernel module yourself is kind of tricky. I had to set some symlinks in /lib/modules/2.6.whatever to point to my source tree and things like that. I'd recommend either: a) Living without the kernel module. b) Running an ubuntu kernel with their pre-compiled module.
[02:29] <nine09>  i can only code in C# so i cant poke too much fun
[02:29] <cafuego> menko: Yes, but the fact tyou don't know where to look for the problem leads me to believe perhps you ought not be installing hand-compiled stuff.
[02:29] <menko> cafuego: I want to learn
[02:29] <dooglus> menko: you need package 'build-essential'
[02:29] <cafuego> menko: Then config.log is your friend, eh?
[02:29] <gfxstyler> johanbr: to solution a.) not possible because im a game developer i need 3d acceleration :) and to solutiob b.) yeah ill try a little more, it has to work somehow
[02:29] <menko> thanks dooglus, I'll try installing that
[02:30] <Kovecses> gfxstyler, what are you trying to do?
[02:30] <cafuego> dooglus: "Do this" doesn't constitute learning.
[02:30] <dooglus> menko: and don't let the channel grouch put you off :)
[02:30] <newuser> Kovecses: i only have cd-r's to record onto.
[02:30] <Forgott3n`> How do I access my root account?
[02:30] <menko> dooglus: I'm calm and have fended off worse
[02:30] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: 'sudo -s' will give you a root shell. (use your user password)
[02:30] <Kovecses> newuser, well you only want to use the command line?
[02:31] <Forgott3n`> Why -s
[02:31] <Razor-X> Forgott3n`: it'll give you a shell
[02:31] <gfxstyler> Kovecses: my problem is that the ati fglrx driver at ubuntu always install the 8.16 module even if i download the 8.20 one from the ati homepage
[02:31] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: it spawns a shell. (equivalent to 'sudo bash')
[02:31] <Forgott3n`> Ah
[02:31] <Razor-X> Forgott3n`: ``sudo'' on its own simply executes as root
[02:31] <johanbr> gfxstyler: One thing you could try is installing kernel + l-r-m from dapper. I'm not sure if that'll work with the Xorg version in breezy, though. If you try that, leave your old kernel in place.
[02:31] <Forgott3n`> What if I just do a sudo su
[02:31] <Forgott3n`> ?
[02:31] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: that would be entirely pointless.
[02:31] <Kovecses> gfxstyler, that doesnt make any sense
[02:31] <sambagirl> hi
[02:31] <Forgott3n`> cafuego: What would it do
[02:31] <gfxstyler> Kovecses: thats what i am talking about :D
[02:31] <sambagirl> does anyone here use Realplayer?
[02:32] <Razor-X> Forgott3n`: ``sudo -i'' can also open a shell that preserves your variables
[02:32] <nine09> man i hate realplayer
[02:32] <gfxstyler> Kovecses: it just drives me crazy it is not possible
[02:32] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: The same as 'sudo -s' except it would spawn an additional program, and thus be slower
[02:32] <newuser> that is all i have. ubuntu only boots to terminal
[02:32] <Razor-X> Forgott3n`: look at it logically ``run the program ``switch user'' as root''
[02:32] <Forgott3n`> cafuego: Asides the point, can I access the GUI as root?
[02:32] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: No.
[02:32] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: But then, you shouldn't need to.
[02:32] <Forgott3n`> cafuego: Alright.
[02:32] <Forgott3n`> cafuego: True.
[02:32] <Kovecses> Forgott3n`, you can issue the command ... sudo passwd ... to set up a password for root access
[02:32] <xenon_> How do you get a rausb0 device to register in the network?
[02:32] <cafuego> Forgott3n`: You can run any gui app as root via 'sudo <appname>'
[02:33] <sambagirl> does anyone here know an easy way to install codecs for realplayer? i read where it's licensing issue for receiving obsolete format or something.
[02:33] <Kovecses> newuser, I know how to fix
[02:33] <cafuego> !w32codecs
[02:33] <ubotu> hmm... w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:33] <dooglus> Forgott3n`: you can access the GUI as root if you enable it in gdm's config file
[02:33] <Kovecses> gfxstyler, I know how to fix your prob
[02:33] <nine09> can u even use realplayer on nix
[02:33] <Kovecses> sure
[02:33] <gfxstyler> Kovecses: would you mind telling me ?
[02:33] <newuser> kovecses great
[02:33] <Kovecses> gfxstyler, pm me
[02:33] <johanbr> gfxstyler: Is there anything in 8.20 that you really need?
[02:33] <lynx> I've been playing around with different themes, does anyone know where I can find a mac os x theme
[02:33] <praetoria> what is the command to reach the kde desktop ?
[02:34] <praetoria> "sudo ?"
[02:34] <gfxstyler> johanbr: yeah, 8.16 does not have my LCD screen resolution supported and 8.20 does
[02:34] <Kovecses> praetoria, did you install it?
[02:34] <k3rn> whats the german channel again?
[02:34] <praetoria> i think so
[02:34] <dooglus> !de
[02:34] <Razor-X> k3rn: #ubuntu-de
[02:34] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:34] <cafuego> #ubuntu-de
[02:34] <k3rn> thx
[02:35] <johanbr> gfxstyler: Am I getting this right, that you managed to successfully build the 8.20 kernel module with an ubuntu kernel, it's just that it still wants to use 8.16 for some strange reason?
[02:35] <Kovecses> praetoria, log out and select it from the sessions list
[02:35] <newuser> kovecses where/how to fix?
[02:36] <gfxstyler> johanbr: yeah it builds the module but its always 8.16 .. i dont know how to explain it
[02:36] <Kovecses> newuser, fix what? i forgot
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> Is it difficult to set up port forwarding to use ssh and vnc from behind a router?
[02:36] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: it is not.
[02:36] <nine09> i wonder why i always have a poor share rating for bit torrents
[02:36] <newuser> screw up dual boot
[02:36] <KonvIRC> hi
[02:36] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell tonyyarusso about portforward
[02:36] <xenon_> can someone help with a wireless question concerning rausb0?
[02:36] <lynx> anyone know where I can find a mac os x theme for gnome
[02:37] <sambagirl> wow thank you for the information on codecs.
[02:37] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: No, it's really not. if both boxen are Linux, just run vnc over ssh.
[02:37] <KonvIRC> I need install libqt2, but there isn't libqt2 in ubuntu repository, where I can find them?
[02:37] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell lynx about themes
[02:37] <cafuego> lynx: art.gnone.org art.ubuntu.com
[02:37] <Papoose> I am having troubles geting SWAT for samba to work... I am not sure why it doesn't work
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, That site seemed to reference a lot of things specific to the router, and mine isn't listed.
[02:37] <k3rn> der default eintrag ist
[02:37] <cafuego> Papoose: Because root isn't enabled. Just edit /etc/smb.conf
[02:37] <newuser>  <Kovecses> newuser, I know how to fix
[02:38] <sambagirl> papoose what is SWAT?
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Okay, they will be.  (Does ssh need port forwarding on its own?)
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: you have a weird router? cool. (most of the settings are the same across all routers. only the interfaces are differnt)
[02:38] <Papoose> Samba Web Admin tool
[02:38] <sambagirl> ohh
[02:38] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: are you wanting to run vnc and ssh clients or servers?
[02:38] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Yeah, just make sure ssh (22/tcp) is forwarded
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: any listening port needs to be forwared to the outside if you are behind a router
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Siemens Speedstream 6520.
[02:38] <Papoose> cafuego it says you don't even need to touch your smb.conf when you use swat
[02:38] <johanbr> gfxstyler: I think I have a guess what your problem is now, actually. What does "find /lib/modules/`uname -r`/ -name fglrx.ko" print?
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Both, potentially.
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: i know nothing about them, i just gave you a hint
[02:39] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: then you simple run (remotely) 'ssh -X remotehost xvncviewer:1'
[02:39] <ludovit_> hi all
[02:39] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: That tunnels it, works fine.
[02:39] <gfxstyler> johanbr: like i said, i dont have access to linux know :)
[02:39] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you can run the clients of both without setting up anything.  for the servers you'll need to configure the router to forward ports
[02:39] <cafuego> Papoose: That doesn't mean swat is somehow easier to use ;-)  Do you just want to add a shared directory?
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Do I need to figure out how to find this in the interface of the router, or is there a cli way of doing it or something?
[02:40] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: You'll need to have a look on the router for that
[02:40] <Papoose> cafuego yes but I am hoping once I set up swat it will make things easier to edit
[02:40] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: did you try following the steps here? http://www.portforward.com/english/routers/port_forwarding/Bell/Speedstream6520/Speedstream6520index.htm
[02:40] <johndarkhorse> tonyyarusso: usually it's 192.168.0.1 or .1.1 on the IP
[02:40] <cafuego> Papoose: Try System -> Admin -> Shared Folders
[02:41] <Papoose> cafuego doesn't allow me access on my windows system
[02:41] <cafuego> Papoose: The only think you should really need to modify is 'workgroup' in /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> johndarkhorse, Yeah, I can find the interface (192.168.2.1), but I'm not sure where pf would be in it.
[02:41] <ruhan> johanbr I'm not out of the woods yet. The network card goes dead whenever networking gets restarted, and then seems to just wait for an hour or so and then pop on. When its dead, ifconfig only shows the loopback networking device.
[02:41] <johanbr> gfxstyler: Ahh, sorry. :) Anyway, I think the problem is that ubuntu mounts a tmpfs over your modules directory. Try moving the directory /lib/linux-restricted-modules-something/fglrx out of the way, reboot and maybe that'll help.
[02:41] <cafuego> Papoose: ... if you run one that's not called 'WORKGROUP'.
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Hrm, I hadn't found it when I looked; guess I'm blind.  Will check.
[02:42] <johanbr> ruhan: Weird. What model is the network card?
[02:42] <gfxstyler> johanbr: thanks johan ill try that!
[02:42] <Papoose> cafuego I was looking for a bit more control
[02:42] <newuser> screwed up dual boot help dried up??
[02:42] <cafuego> Papoose: Then you'll need to enable the root account. 'sudo passwd'
[02:43] <ruhan> It's a linksys 10/100, but I'm not sure of the specifics. I can look
[02:43] <matthew_w> Hey, for some reason make is returning error 127 when I try to use it, and it's saying it can't find GCC... any idea why this might happen?
[02:43] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: that's for the Bell Speedstream 6520, not Siemanns...
[02:43] <Papoose> cafuego I have done that
[02:43] <ruhan> johanbr I thought it was a 10 mbps card before but I was wrong
[02:43] <_jason> mathew, you don't have gcc?  try installing build-essential
[02:43] <PuMpErNi1kLe> matthew_w: Have you installed the 'build-essential' package?
[02:43] <matthew_w> I will try this
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> dooglus, Well, its manufactured by Siemans but provided by Bell, so I think it's right.
[02:44] <matthew_w> Ok that's installed now, let me try again...
[02:44] <Papoose> cafuego I would like to see how SWAT works... I know once you get it working you can access it from a remote comp to allter...
[02:45] <johanbr> ruhan: Okay, so after a while it starts working 100 mbit? What's it connected to?
[02:45] <matthew_w> are warnings of things 'differing in signedness' during make serious?
[02:45] <matthew_w> Yeah apparently
[02:45] <xenon_> can someone help with a wireless question concerning rausb0?
[02:46] <cafuego> Papoose: then http://sambabox:901/ should do the trick.
[02:46] <matthew_w> make: *** all error 1.  Apparently make "bailed" on me ... what does this mean? lol.
[02:46] <cafuego> What are you compiling?
[02:46] <ruhan> johanbr it's connected to a linksys G router, in one of the actual plugs. I've never had trouble with that box for ubuntu before though.
[02:46] <matthew_w> qemu with kqemu accelerator
[02:46] <Papoose> cafuego sambabox? not localhost?
[02:46] <matthew_w> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=39513
[02:46] <johanbr> ruhan: What does "sudo mii-diag ethX" and "ifconfig ethX" show?
[02:47] <cafuego> Papoose: Whatever box swat is running on. It would be useful to run it on the samba server, otherwise it's kind of useless, no?
[02:47] <jonathanmeK> hi, i just finished installing ubuntu and now i am trying to download and install skype\
[02:47] <ruhan> johanbr the interesting thing is, when it's not working, all three lights for it on the G router blink slowly. When it's working, either only one is blinking on the top (earlier) or all three are lit up (this time)
[02:47] <matthew_w> Any ideas?
[02:48] <killerbird>  hello :/
[02:48] <jonathanmeK> hey killer\
[02:48] <Papoose> cafuego you mean replace "sambabox" with computer name
[02:48] <cafuego> or IP
[02:49] <Papoose> cafuego ya I have done that and it wont work so I don't know why
[02:49] <johanbr> ruhan: That sounds like it could be auto-negotiation gone wonky. The most useful thing would be if you could run the mii-diag and ifconfig commands before and after it starts working and see if there's any difference.
[02:49] <matthew_w> cafuego:  Hrm, tried reinstalling gcc - make still 'bails' on me.
[02:49] <cafuego> Papoose: that's what /var/log is for.
[02:49] <ruhan> johanbr will do
[02:50] <cafuego> matthew_w: What can I say, I'm a member of the "Don't compile if you don't know how" society.
[02:50] <killerbird> ubuntu supports fat32 file systems right?
[02:50] <johanbr> killerbird: yes.
[02:50] <matthew_w> cafuego; there doesn't seem to be any other way to get qemu with kqemu support x-x
[02:51] <killerbird> so how do i see the drive partitions with this thing
[02:51] <killerbird> im only 3 days into this linux thing
[02:51] <johndarkhorse> mathew: learning is enlightening
[02:51] <newuser> how can I get ubuntu to load to gui??
[02:51] <johanbr> killerbird: Is it a partition on your hard drive?
[02:51] <killerbird> i open up my Disk manager can i can see that there are partitions
[02:51] <newuser> I am stuck loading to terminal.
[02:51] <killerbird> yea, its a second harddrive
[02:51] <killerbird> that survided windows death
[02:52] <killerbird> hmm odd
[02:52] <killerbird> it actually says "vfat"
[02:52] <killerbird> as the filesystem
[02:52] <_jason> !enter
[02:52] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[02:53] <_jason> newuser, did you do a server install?
[02:53] <newuser> yes
[02:53] <floppyears> hi
[02:53] <johanbr> So you can see what the partition name is (usually /dev/hd-something) ? The "vfat" thing is normal.
[02:53] <grimgravy014> hello
[02:53] <floppyears> could somebody suggest me a good ftp server to install
[02:53] <_jason> newuser, server install has no gui, 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' as root
[02:53] <killerbird> okay
[02:53] <praetoria> can someone help me plz
[02:53] <ughu> gkjf
[02:53] <_jason> !helpme
[02:53] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[02:53] <killerbird> I open disk manager, it propts for password, and i see on the left, one harddrive, and then another harddrive, and when i select that i have 4 partitions on it
[02:54] <johanbr> killerbird: Does it show a name like hda, hdb, hdc, ... ?
[02:54] <praetoria> what is the default pwd for admin?
[02:54] <killerbird> and it then says device : /dev/hdb5 through hdb8
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu, tell praetoria about root
[02:54] <floppyears> anybody, who knows a good ftp server ?
[02:54] <killerbird> yea hdb
[02:54] <z0rz> Ok so I have the AC97 audio chipset... but ubuntu doesn't regonizes it by default... how can I install the drivers?
[02:54] <z0rz> and what do I need to install?
[02:55] <Papoose> cafuego I am new... I don't know how to use /var/log :(
[02:55] <_jason> ubotu, tell floppyears about ftp
[02:55] <praetoria> what is the default pwd for root?
[02:55] <johanbr> killerbird: Does it specifically show one of the /dev/hdb-number as being the fat partition?
[02:55] <floppyears> not clients, I want to setup an ftp server
[02:55] <_jason> praetoria, ubotu has sent you a link, please read it
[02:55] <dooglus> floppyears: did you try ftpd?
[02:55] <killerbird> all of them says as the file system "windows virtual fat"
[02:55] <_jason> floppyears, read the whole thing ;o
[02:55] <killerbird> i would have sworn that i did them into fat32 way back when i did them :/
[02:56] <Knowerrors> any good programs for making a printable calander?
[02:56] <floppyears> _jason: thanks, I guess I hadn't read the whole thing :)
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> killerbird, fat32 is vfat.
[02:56] <floppyears> thans dooglus
[02:56] <killerbird> okay cool
[02:56] <johanbr> killerbird: Alright, try "sudo mount /dev/X /mnt" where X is one of hdb5, hdb6, ...
[02:56] <Papoose> I think the samba.org howtos suck
[02:56] <sneedes> has anyone been able to use SATA?
[02:56] <rick_> can anyone provide some guidance on setting up a home network with a printer connected to a ubuntu desktop?
[02:56] <drummer87> hey, i'm trying to compile LIRC, but i get an error that says "Dialog not found!" when I run setup.sh what does this mean?
[02:57] <killerbird> okay
[02:57] <johndarkhorse> drummer87: that doesnt sound like a standard source code package
[02:57] <sneedes> I have a Promise TX2300 "raid" card, but cannot get it to function.  Couldn't compile the Promise drivers, couldn't see a disk through dmraid
[02:57] <GNU32> :P
[02:57] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak hey it finished i think
[02:57] <Xoritor> i now have ubuntu 5.10 installed
[02:57] <Xoritor> nice work
[02:58] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak do i just restart now?
[02:58] <drummer87> johndarkhorse, it has a config menu before it runs ./configure
[02:58] <killerbird> it took a moment to process but then it did say anything...
[02:58] <Xoritor> very nice indeed
[02:58] <Kovecses> ubuntu default theme doesnt sit well with me
[02:58] <mcdenyer> hey
[02:59] <Kovecses> but that is easily changed
[02:59] <mcdenyer> once i upgraded to 510 do i just resart comp?
[02:59] <Xoritor> heh
[02:59] <killerbird> oh sweet
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, Me neither.  I hated the default.
[02:59] <killerbird> okay i see it now thanks johanbr
[02:59] <johanbr> Kovecses: That reminds me, I've got to watch my Arrested Devlopment DVD's. :)
[02:59] <GNU32> /unban iKernel
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, I'm all over Glider.
[02:59] <johanbr> killerbird: You're welcome. Glad it works.
[02:59] <gfxstyler> its brown ... like [beeep]  ;)
[03:00] <Kovecses> tonyyarusso, clearlooks engine with human window border
[03:00] <GNU32> R!
[03:00] <killerbird> awesomeness
[03:00] <GNU32> CTRL+SHIT+V
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> drummer87: perhaps you should read the website on prerequisites
[03:00] <praetoria> how can i boot to the kde desktop?
[03:00] <tonyyarusso> Kovecses, yeah, clearlooks wasn't bad either.  I have that as my mplayer skin now.
[03:00] <killerbird> johanbr - I can mount multiple drives to this /mnd directory, or can i make their own one?
[03:00] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: at your sessions menu on your login screen
[03:00] <Kovecses> praetoria, i already told you
[03:01] <praetoria> what is the command?
[03:01] <killerbird> *mnt
[03:01] <Hollowman> what is the command to copy something
[03:01] <bimberi> cp
[03:01] <Hollowman> say thats on your desktop and you want it in /
[03:01] <Hollowman> so... cp <file> /
[03:01] <Hollowman> ?
[03:01] <Kovecses> praetoria, log out
[03:02] <Forgott3n`> yeah fags
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Hollowman, If you were in ~/, yes.
[03:02] <Kovecses> praetoria, click kde in sessions menu
[03:02] <johanbr> killerbird: I think you can only have one directory mounted on it at one time. The way it's usually done, you make subdirectories like /mnt/drive1, /mnt/drive2, or whatever you want to call them.
[03:02] <praetoria> kde is not listed on the sessions list
[03:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Hollowman about cli
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Forgott3n`, Watch the language!
[03:02] <Kovecses> praetoria, how many times must we tell you
[03:02] <bimberi> Hollowman: yes, although you'll probably need to "sudo cp <file /"
[03:02] <Forgott3n`> pardon, that was my friend
[03:02] <killerbird> okay cool
[03:02] <Forgott3n`> he stole my laptop for a glance
[03:02] <killerbird> yea i just observed that i could only mount one at a time :)
[03:02] <Forgott3n`> sorry if anyone got offended
[03:02] <drummer87> johndarkhorse, i need an extra package "dialog".. i just didn't remember installing anything extra last time.. d'oh
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Forgott3n`, Ah.  Friends should read the /topic too.
[03:02] <Kovecses> ooobooontooo
[03:03] <mcdenyer> hey i just upgraded to 510 what do i do now??
[03:03] <praetoria> kde is not listed on the sessions list
[03:03] <Kovecses> mcdenyer, whatever you want
[03:03] <Kovecses> praetoria, then you didnt install it
[03:03] <killerbird> johanbr, do you know the commands to unmount the drive?
[03:03] <mcdenyer> yes but do i need to upgrade it or anything?
[03:03] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: install 'kubuntu-desktop'
[03:03] <Kovecses> praetoria, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:03] <praetoria> how do i do that?
[03:03] <gfxstyler> killerbird: sudo umount /dev/yourdrive   ?
[03:03] <johanbr> killerbird: sudo umount /mnt/whatever .
[03:03] <newuser>  <_jason> newuser, server install has no gui, 'apt-get install ubuntu-desktop' as root....Thanks _jason
[03:03] <Kovecses> praetoria, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:03] <Kovecses> praetoria, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:04] <killerbird> okay cool enought thanks :)
[03:04] <robotgeek> praetoria: do that in a terminal
[03:04] <mcdenyer> so do u use spm everytime u want to install an app onto your ubuntu system?
[03:04] <mcdenyer> synaptic package manager
[03:05] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: may i suggest you load up in your web browser 'help.ubuntu.com' and learn for yourself? we are not here to spoon feed you
[03:05] <Kovecses> i use apt
[03:05] <johanbr> killerbird: Sorry, what I wrote only works if you have entries in /etc/fstab but you probably want that anyway. Look at /etc/fstab - the entries for your drives could actually be there already. If not, you can probably guess what they should look like by imitating what's already there.
[03:05] <GNU32> MEOW!
[03:05] <tristanmike> mcdenyer, pretty much
[03:05] <newuser> _jason know how to recover windows from a bootloop? boots to grub, i select windows, loads windows splash screen then reboots.
[03:05] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: you have choices. apt-get, aptitude, synaptic, and others
[03:05] <Kovecses> mcdenyer, you can download stuff from the web too
[03:05] <mcdenyer> ok
[03:05] <_jason> newuser, was it doing that before you installed ubuntu?
[03:05] <praetoria> you show me what part of 'help.ubuntu.com' it discusses kde
[03:05] <Kovecses> who lives in the U.S.
[03:06] <mcdenyer> is there a linux version of itunes??
[03:06] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: downloading stuff from the web is not advised (stick with official ubuntu packages)
[03:06] <praetoria> or simply help out
[03:06] <mcdenyer>  ok
[03:06] <gfxstyler> is ubuntu able to resize partitions on installation (ntfs) without damaging the data?
[03:06] <Kovecses> praetoria, enter that command and you will get kde
[03:06] <killerbird> okay let me take a look into that drive...
[03:06] <tristanmike> mcdenyer, if you want something, it's best to check the repos first to see if it's available that way, then go with downloadable packages if it isn't
[03:06] <johanbr> mcdenyer: Google for sharpmusique.
[03:07] <killerbird> i have no /etc/fstab folder :(
[03:07] <praetoria>  <Kovecses> praetoria, enter that command and you will get kde?
[03:07] <praetoria> what command
[03:07] <Kovecses> praetoria, my god
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: it's not a folder, it's a file
[03:07] <johanbr> gfxstyler: So I've heard. I've never tried it myself though.
[03:07] <killerbird> oh
[03:07] <Kovecses> praetoria, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[03:07] <Kovecses> praetoria, i told you five f***in times
[03:07] <gfxstyler> johanbr: thanks :)
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: help.ubuntu.com has links to anything you want to know about ubuntu, kubuntu, xubuntu, etc
[03:07] <praetoria> it says that it could'nt find package
[03:08] <GNU32> MEOW!
[03:08] <Kovecses> !find kubuntu-desktop
[03:08] <GNU32> !info meow
[03:08] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[03:08] <GNU32> !meow
[03:08] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about, GNU32
[03:08] <GNU32> :S
[03:08] <GNU32> :(
[03:08] <killerbird> yea that file doesn't seem to indicate that it knows the partitions are there
[03:08] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: if you can't find the kubuntu-desktop package, you have trouble
[03:09] <gfxstyler> !w00t
[03:09] <ubotu> gfxstyler: What?
[03:09] <_jason> praetoria, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:09] <gfxstyler> lol
[03:09] <johndarkhorse> !botabuse
[03:09] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[03:09] <gfxstyler> that ubotu is just sweet :D
[03:09] <_jason> ubotu, tell praetoria about pastebin
[03:09] <GNU32> I wasn't playing with the bot
[03:09] <gfxstyler> i was
[03:09] <Kovecses> lol
[03:09] <GNU32> oh ok
[03:09] <GNU32> !maybe
[03:10] <newuser> _jason running fine...
[03:10] <ubotu> GNU32: I don't know, could you explain it?
[03:10] <GNU32> aww what?
[03:10] <johndarkhorse> GNU32: any time you !preface with a ! you are triggering the bot. please stop that practice except when needed.
[03:10] <GNU32> kk
[03:10] <_jason> newuser, don't know then.  Did you resize the ntfs partition before installing?
[03:10] <GNU32> !
[03:10] <ubotu> GNU32: Are you on ritalin?
[03:10] <GNU32> wtf?
[03:10] <johanbr> killerbird: Then you can just put in lines like "/dev/hdb5   /mnt/drive1 vfat  defaults   0    0" and the drives will be mounted on boot. If you don't want that you can use "defaults,noauto" instead.
[03:10] <GNU32> i give up
[03:11] <GNU32> i'm leaving ubotu alone
[03:11] <Kovecses> praetoria, are you on ubuntu
[03:11] <Papoose> how do i restart my init.d services?
[03:11] <newuser> _jason used the install cd to partition the drive.
[03:11] <rixth> Papoose, all of them?
[03:11] <gfxstyler> Papoose: sudo /etc/init.d/youeservice restart
[03:11] <killerbird> im trying to make some of those subdirectories right now... is the terminal command to make a directory md <dir name>?
[03:11] <blazinsys> hey, does anyone know how to change the screen size through the console
[03:11] <johanbr> killerbird: mkdir dirname
[03:11] <rixth> Yay for NZ
[03:11] <killerbird> mkdir ight cool
[03:12] <_jason> newuser, could be that when it resized the ntfs drive, you lost some files.  Usually it's recommended you resize before installing
[03:12] <hyphenated> rixth: huh? what've we done now?
[03:13] <rixth> Huh?
[03:13] <GNU32> 10 seconds till updates downloaded!
[03:13] <GNU32> done
[03:13] <regeya> yipee
[03:13] <newuser> _jason i thought that is what it did. resize, make swap, install on free space...
[03:13] <blazinsys> because i accidentaly put a larger screen size than my comp could handle during installation and now the screen is black and only makes noises unless i press cntrl alt bkspce
[03:13] <regeya> hey, neat, apt can handle coral cache just fine.
[03:13] <Papoose> yes\
[03:13] <killerbird> Great.... i plugged the wrong dang drive in xD
[03:14] <johanbr> Well, gotta go. Have a few things to do before 24 is on. Hope this season doesn't suck as badly as the last one.
[03:14] <ubuntu> helo!
[03:14] <GNU32> XD XP
[03:14] <killerbird> thanks
[03:14] <GNU32> grr
[03:14] <gfxstyler> blazinsys: you can set the screensize in your /etc/xorg.conf or use xorgconfig or xconfig or whatever its called
[03:14] <_jason> newuser, as I understand it, you should defragment the ntfs first so that all the data is sure to be at the beginning of the partition.  That way when it is resized. you won't lose anything.  I am just speculating here though, it may just be some windows problem
[03:15] <praetoria> this channel is listed as THE help channel on Ubunto
[03:15] <_jason> praetoria, yes?
[03:15] <regeya> praetoria?
[03:15] <newuser> _jason I should be able to mount the ntfs partition to copy it to a backup drive correct?
[03:16] <praetoria> yes
[03:16] <regeya> praetoria, are you going somewhere with that, or just pointing it out for posterity?
[03:16] <johndarkhorse> praetoria: help is pointing you to the wiki and other pages, it is not spoon feeding you every little step several times.
[03:16] <GNU32> yay now my system is up to date!
[03:16] <praetoria> someone mentioned about spoon feeding
[03:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell newuser about ntfs
[03:17] <_jason> newuser, yeah, read what ubotu sent you (I'd recommend doing it manually)
[03:17] <blazinsys> how would i do that
[03:17] <regeya> hey praetoria what's the issue other than whatever axe you're grinding...in other words, I'm assuming you're mad because someone's not helped you with something
[03:17] <praetoria> i tried all day to understand the documentation adn as last resort here i am
[03:17] <newuser> thanks _jason
[03:18] <killerbird> well
[03:18] <praetoria> and in five minutes you all helped me to understand what i needed to do
[03:18] <praetoria> and that was i need to install kde
[03:18] <killerbird> yea i tried to forums first meself
[03:18] <praetoria> thank you
[03:18] <killerbird> got "use google"
[03:18] <tafsen> How can I set aMSN to use ALSA ?
[03:18] <regeya> and just to further my point, some of us weren't around for whatever it is you're on about, and are unable to help because we don't know what the problem is.  if the problem is that you're just generally completely lost, I tend to be a little vicious on that one and point out that if you're totally lost right at square one, well, I don't suggest installing ANY OS on your own.
[03:18] <killerbird> how annoying -_-;
[03:18] <regeya> !kde
[03:18] <ubotu> well, kde is A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:18] <bluefoxicy> !gnome
[03:19] <nineO9> yay i'm online with ubuntu
[03:19] <Unity_> j #jlwgl
[03:19] <KSF> hello all... i was wondering if you all could help me out.
[03:19] <Unity_> whoops
[03:19] <killerbird> i've used the fat file system for the last 15 years of my life... this extension 3 thing is confussing
[03:19] <_jason> !helpme
[03:19] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:19] <killerbird> after day 3 of it
[03:19] <praetoria> what ksf?
[03:19] <KSF> I'm trying to get my wireless internet working on my Dell Latitude D610 with Intel ipw2200.
[03:19] <zombie_> hi all
[03:19] <praetoria> eeek!
[03:20] <nineO9> no one wants to cheer with me
[03:20] <Kovecses> w00t
[03:20] <regeya> !tell ksf about helpme
[03:20] <KSF> but i simply can't get it to work.... i partly chose to install ubuntu because i read that it alrady supports it.
[03:20] <nineO9> heh
[03:20] <killerbird> well i need to go plug the correct drive into my something byebye
[03:20] <Kovecses> freebsd needs ati drivers
[03:20] <newuser> woot woot nine09
[03:20] <KSF> How to I get my wireless internet connection on Breezy to actually work?
[03:20] <regeya> !tell praetoria about kde
[03:20] <nineO9> i'm using the live cd right now
[03:20] <Kovecses> !wireless
[03:20] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:20] <codo> I am not able to boot into new kernel in drapper drake
[03:20] <regeya> ogra chaka
[03:21] <Kovecses> codo, thats why it is unstable
[03:21] <regeya> sheesh.  havent even had a drink yet and I'm alreday having major trouble typing intelligable
[03:21] <blazinsys> i cant find xconf???????????/
[03:21] <codo> Kovecses okay
[03:21] <gfxstyler> regeya: w00t? :D
[03:22] <_jason> blazinsys, what is xconf?
[03:22] <Mr-Falkor> Is there a free 3D MMORPG game For linux ?
[03:22] <blazinsys> gfxstyler told me i could change my screen size with that
[03:22] <zombie_> can someone help me?
[03:22] <johndarkhorse> Mr-Falkor: there are a few, iirc
[03:22] <Kovecses> Mr-Falkor, go to www.happypenguin.com
[03:22] <blazinsys> but i dont seem to be able to find that file or any of the other files he suggested
[03:23] <regeya> praetoria, back to kde, if you're serious about kde on ubuntu, I suggest a clean kubuntu install.  seriously.  it's possible to switch to kubuntu-desktop but there's a bit of work involved, work I don't recall b/c I didn't keep track of my steps when I last did it (and to top it off, I'm using ubuntu proper right now)
[03:23] <Mr-Falkor> johndarkhorse, cool, any names on some ?
[03:23] <bimberi> blazinsys: "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[03:23] <_jason> ubotu, tell zombie_ about helpme
[03:23] <Mr-Falkor> Kovecses, thnx
[03:23] <Kovecses> blazinsys, its xorg.conf
[03:23] <Kovecses> Mr-Falkor, .org sorry
[03:24] <zombie_> just installed ubantu  and need to install a deb... but when i type " su" then my password i get "su: Authentication failure
[03:24] <zombie_> "
[03:24] <nineO9> how can i tell how secure i am right now seeing as how i have no knowledge of linux
[03:24] <GNU32> I can't remember what I was going to install...\
[03:24] <GNU32> um...
[03:24] <_jason> ubotu, tell zombie_ about sudo
[03:24] <Kovecses> sudo apt-get install beer
[03:24] <blazinsys> where is that file located?
[03:24] <zombie_> i tried sudo too...didnt work
[03:24] <GNU32> apt-get moo
[03:25] <killerbird> success my music is back!
[03:25] <nineO9> my battery is almost dead :(
[03:25] <zombie_> apt get ... didnt try that ...
[03:25] <Kovecses> zombie_, sudo dpkg -i packagename.deb
[03:25] <GNU32> zombie_: sudo -s
[03:25] <GNU32> what was I going to do??
[03:25] <killerbird> ah damnit i havn't installed an mp3 player yet
[03:25] <Forgott3n`> oh ok I need some help
[03:25] <GNU32> killerbird; Thanks man! You reminded me that I was going to install mplayer!
[03:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell killerbird about mp3
[03:25] <Kovecses> Forgott3n`, shoot
[03:26] <Forgott3n`> I am shutting down ubuntu but it said Shutdown allready running
[03:26] <Forgott3n`> oh nvm
[03:26] <Forgott3n`> :P
[03:26] <Kovecses> lol
[03:26] <GNU32> Forgott3n`: init 0
[03:26] <_jason> zombie_, sudo should work with your user password... is it the user you created during isntall?
[03:27] <GNU32> who is johndarkhorse?
[03:27] <johndarkhorse> GNU32: don't you mean /whois johndarkhorse ?
[03:27] <GNU32> johndarkhorse: Who are you?
[03:27] <nineO9> !whois
[03:27] <ubotu> No idea, nineO9
[03:28] <nineO9> haha
[03:28] <GNU32> is he a bot?
[03:28] <Kyral> nailoth
[03:28] <Kyral> its nailoth
[03:28] <KSF> my wireless network card is in the list of supported Network cards but I still do not have wireless internet.. How do I go about getting it enabled?
[03:28] <nineO9> i am a robot, do what i say
[03:28] <johndarkhorse> GNU32: no i am not a bot
[03:28] <GNU32> johndarkhorse: oh ok
[03:28] <GNU32> hmm...
[03:29] <killerbird> success! w00t
[03:29] <nineO9> w00t!
[03:29] <nineO9> kiss me fatboy
[03:29] <Kovecses> !poop
[03:29] <ubotu> Kovecses: I don't know
[03:29] <regeya> o-O
[03:30] <Kovecses> anyone from the U.S.
[03:30] <nineO9> i am
[03:30] <nineO9> USA A-OK
[03:30] <killerbird> word
[03:30] <Kovecses> good... i was beginning to think i was the only american to use ubuntu
[03:30] <johndarkhorse> Kovecses: visit #ubuntu-offtopic for that line of questions, please
[03:31] <GNU32> BLESTIEF!
[03:31] <Kovecses> johndarkhorse, shut up
[03:31] <_jason> not smart
[03:31] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Kovecses about conduct
[03:31] <nineO9> me want wifi card
[03:32] <KSF> me have built in one but i can't get it working !
[03:32] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell nineO9 about wireless
[03:32] <KSF> !wireless
[03:32] <ubotu> [wireless]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:32] <nineO9> thanks
[03:32] <GNU32> atheros card works.
[03:32] <nineO9> linksys cards?
[03:32] <KSF> been there...thats how I know my card is supported... but i'm not sure where to go from there. Where do i go from there?
[03:33] <Mr-Falkor> Kovecses, do you know about some cool  MMORPG games ?
[03:33] <johndarkhorse> nineO9: that URL ubotu sent you has a whole page on cards that work and cards that work with some work
[03:33] <nineO9> k looking now
[03:34] <nineO9> the security certificate can't be verified
[03:34] <enrique> hi every body
[03:34] <enrique> how are you
[03:34] <_jason> nine09, that's ok, accept and remember
[03:35] <nineO9> i accepted but only for this session
[03:35] <nineO9> ;)
[03:35] <ssstormy> does anyone know if there's a way to have the computer rescan your disk or something?  My disk is consistantly detected at 230GB, instead of the 250GB it used to come in as before I partitioned it.  So I thought maybe the size is written out to the MBR; is there a way to fix this issue though?
[03:35] <ssstormy> the 20GB aren't even in fdisk as empty space
[03:35] <hyphenated> ssstormy: are you looking at the size of the formatted partitions?
[03:37] <ssstormy> hyphenated, no, I'm talking about the size of the hard disk itself
[03:37] <mdezern> i think 230 is correct
[03:37] <ssstormy> when I partitioned it, the disk was 250GB and the last partition was 200GB
[03:37] <mdezern> nick sNake
[03:37] <mdezern> er
[03:38] <ssstormy> now it's ??MB(=230GB) and last partition is 180GB
[03:38] <menkent> ok, i tried everything un the ubuntu wiki and my font still shows up as boxes
[03:38] <menkent> anyone think they can help?
[03:39] <hyphenated> ssstormy: which program or command tells you that?
[03:39] <ssstormy> menkent, soudns like you're having issues with asian fonts
[03:39] <menkent> arabic, actually
[03:39] <iluminate> Greetings! Does anyone know what the difference is between the "Server Version" and choosing "Server" when installing from a Breezy CD?
[03:39] <ssstormy> gparted tells me the disk is 239367MB
[03:39] <menkent> but yes, this would certainly be me having issues. =\
[03:40] <hyphenated> ssstormy: what does fdisk -l /dev/hda say?
[03:40] <newuser> mounted windows as described in wiki, nothing in folder, is all lost?
[03:40] <ssstormy> suddenly the last partition is the right size agian
[03:40] <hyphenated> nice :-) the wonderful world of linux
[03:41] <MrDez> would that be a maxtor ata133 drive by chance?
[03:41] <ssstormy> MrDez, yes it is
[03:41] <ssstormy> are you scanning me, or is it an issue?
[03:41] <ssstormy> (of the drives)
[03:41] <MrDez> ive had 2 120gig maxtor ata133's give me very similar problems
[03:41] <_jason> he's stealing you megabytes!
[03:41] <Chris_C> Sound Juicer plays an audio CD fine (sound from speakers); gnome-cd does not (app makes motions as is playing, but no sound from speakers); any ideas why?
[03:41] <MrDez> but no problems with my various other drives
[03:42] <Chris_C> as if
[03:42] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server has server oriented packages on the CD (smp kernels, apache), instead of the xorg & gnome packages on the normal cd
[03:42] <bimberi> *such as smp kernels, apache ...
[03:42] <hyphenated> Chris_C: gnome-cd might not be using the right sound output device
[03:42] <ssstormy> Chris_C, check mute settings through the system and make sure they're outputting throught the same device (i.e. alsa, esd...)
[03:42] <blazinsys> why is my screen black when i start up
[03:42] <Chris_C> where should I look?
[03:42] <_jason> blazinsys, do you get a command prompt?
[03:43] <ssstormy> MrDez, well it's better than the SATA Maxtor that I couldn't write to period.  but I think tha'ts the $40 motherboard's faulty fault
[03:43] <blazinsys> i can hear the system sounds
[03:43] <_jason> blazinsys, so only when you start X ?
[03:43] <ssstormy> Chris_C, preferences for them
[03:43] <blazinsys> yes
[03:43] <MrDez> heh
[03:43] <MrDez> ya
[03:43] <_jason> blazinsys, what video card do you have?  Try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf and setting the video driver to "vesa"
[03:44] <MrDez> got a cheapo sata board i was trying ubuntu on myself and i had to stick with ide drive
[03:44] <Chris_C> System -> Pref -> Sound ... nothing there ...
[03:44] <MrDez> cant wait to try debian or ub on my new $60 board with sata raid on it (SIS chipset), that should be a fun crash and burn install
[03:45] <ssstormy> crash and burn? why?
[03:45] <psusi> MrDez, actually, I got sata raid support working in ubunut, and am trying to get it into dapper for out of the box support
[03:45] <psusi> MrDez, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto
[03:45] <killerbird> silly question... anyone know how to make the terminal be black with white text?
[03:45] <MrDez> weird sata raid drivers tend to freak out windows, much less linux
[03:45] <MrDez> i know how to setup a software raid, but the mobo supposedly has hardware side psuedo raid capabilities
[03:46] <ssstormy> MrDez, windows freaks about a lot of stuff
[03:46] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: click on your menu at the top of gnome-terminal and look at the profile
[03:46] <ssstormy> take for example
[03:46] <ssstormy> blue screen of death
[03:46] <psusi> MrDez, aye... you don't use the proprietary drivers in linux, linux sees the hardware for what it is:  a multi channel sata controller... the dmraid package is a user mode utility that configures the kernel software raid to use the drives based on the bios parameters stored on the disk
[03:46] <psusi> MrDez, it's really software raid, with bios support, hence it is called hardware fakeraid
[03:46] <Chris_C> hyphenated: how do I tell which output gnome-cd is using?  There are no prefs for that in the in the app
[03:46] <MrDez> ah
[03:46] <killerbird> okay cool
[03:47] <newuserlaptop> mounted windows as per wiki, nothing in folder, is all lost?
[03:47] <psusi> MrDez, read the wiki article I pointed you to... it explains it all
[03:47] <MrDez> will do, thx for the info
[03:47] <ssstormy> the only time linux seems to freak is when it boots a bad kernel or with bad params, and says "kernel panic"
[03:47] <killerbird> sustanace time
[03:47] <ssstormy> which instills an unnecesary feeling of fear
[03:47] <MrDez> heh
[03:48] <MrDez> actually
[03:48] <MrDez> theres nothing like X freezing the whole box
[03:48] <wotnarg> How would one make an image file of a cd, dd?
[03:48] <MrDez> brings back nostalgia of windows days
[03:48] <MrDez> heh
[03:48] <ssstormy> MrDez, only happened to me once, when another program was controlling the X output (fullscreen)
[03:49] <ssstormy> windows has worse graphical freeze
[03:49] <Chris_C> Sorry, I've really searched for this, no dice:  how to check that gnome-cd is using correct output device?
[03:49] <MrDez> happened to me a couple times with an old debian box
[03:49] <ssstormy> btw, anyone know how to force quit gksudo when it freezes?
[03:49] <MrDez> but it was hardware related
[03:49] <MrDez> so i cant really blame anything x/nix
[03:49] <MrDez> afk'ing
[03:49] <Kovecses> ssstormy, sudo killall gksudo
[03:49] <MrDez> ki
[03:49] <MrDez> see kovec
[03:49] <MrDez> heh
[03:49] <ssstormy> I mean from X
[03:50] <MrDez> open a terminal
[03:50] <MrDez> or
[03:50] <iluminate> bimberi: Thanks for the answer. Will go live soon with my LAMP serve and I do not yet know which distro to choose. Is Ubuntu server stable enough? What about updates and patches? From what I have noticed there is a lot of updates for the Desktop version but what about Server?
[03:50] <ssstormy> a while ago I was on a computer with 0 virtual terminals and a crummy gksudo I couldn't remove
[03:50] <ssstormy> so I'd have to quit X everytime it froze
[03:50] <ssstormy> iluminate, it depends on what kind of a system you need
[03:50] <MrDez> clt-alt-shift-f1
[03:50] <MrDez> that will give you command line login
[03:51] <MrDez> then alt-f7 to return to first session of X
[03:51] <ssstormy> iluminate, if you're hard-core programmer, pick something else
[03:51] <ssstormy> MrDez, I know it's supposed to but the X server was messed too
[03:51] <ssstormy> so I couldn't move to them
[03:51] <lysis> can anybody here explain to me why i get an error when i try to growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=*.img  but it works fine if i put the full filename?  some of those filenames are just fucking long . . .
[03:52] <johndarkhorse> lysis: language please
[03:52] <lysis> johndarkhorse, sorry . . .
[03:52] <Hollowman> how come with sudo i still get permission denied?
[03:52] <lysis> Hollowman, what are you trying to do?
[03:52] <ssstormy> hmm, anyone famiiar with X11, Xv etc?
[03:53] <ssstormy> my savage2000 can't output with Xv, but it can use X11
[03:53] <iluminate> ssstormy: you mean the hardware? Poweredge 1850. Will be running PHP 5, Mysql 5 and Apache
[03:53] <ssstormy> iluminate, I mean if you are really down to earth, in th eguts of the system type, use a diff distro
[03:53] <Hollowman> i have my aim.tgz in / and it wants to extract to /usr
[03:53] <Hollowman> and stuff
[03:53] <Hollowman> and i used sudo
[03:53] <ssstormy> Hollowman, you need to do visudo as root
[03:54] <Hollowman> visudo?
[03:54] <ssstormy> then just add an entry like the default one for the root user in there, with your username instead
[03:54] <lysis> ssstormy, what's the difference between sudo and visudo?
[03:54] <ssstormy> Hollowman, a special program for editing the sudo authenticatino file
[03:54] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server uses the same repositories so updates with the desktop version.  I think (but have no evidence) that non-gui packages might update less frequently
[03:54] <Hollowman> so do i have to log out
[03:54] <ssstormy> lysis, see that comment to HOllowman
[03:54] <ssstormy> Hollowman, go to a virtual termina
[03:54] <Hollowman> k there
[03:54] <lysis> Hollowman, make sure your permissions are accurate on the file as well.
[03:55] <tafsen> how can I get VI to open when I use the "crontab -e" commnd?
[03:55] <lysis> vi scares me . . . i can figure out how to edit with it, but i don't have a clue how to save and whatnot.
[03:55] <ssstormy> lysis, there is nothing like that.  you can't have regular user permisions to /usr
[03:55] <Hollowman> im at a terminal
[03:55] <Hollowman> now hat
[03:55] <Hollowman> now what?*
[03:55] <ssstormy> lysis, same here (was like that)
[03:55] <ssstormy> Hollowman, su
[03:55] <ssstormy> then give root password
[03:55] <bimberi> iluminate: ubuntu-server is really about providing a CD that has more server-oriented stuff on it, for where internet-connectivity / bandwidth is an issue.
[03:56] <Hollowman> su: authentication failure
[03:56] <lysis> ssstormy, i just know i've never had problems using sudo so far . . . i usually do sudo -s that way i can just be root.
[03:56] <ssstormy> make sure you give the root password right
[03:56] <Hollowman> wtf
[03:56] <Hollowman> i did
[03:56] <lysis> ssstormy, and Hollowman, you can't just su       su is disabled on normal systems.
[03:56] <Hollowman> still failed
[03:56] <ssstormy> lysis, realy?
[03:56] <ssstormy> works for me
[03:56] <Hollowman> maybe why its failing
[03:57] <lysis> ssstormy, yes.   you may have done something different.    su is disabled.  that's WHY you use sudo.   they disabled su for root hacks and whatnot.
[03:57] <_jason> Hollowman, what are you trying to do?
[03:57] <lysis> ubotu su
[03:57] <ubotu> I don't know, lysis
[03:57] <Hollowman> gunzip my aim.tgz
[03:57] <ssstormy> Hollowman, switch to a virtual terminal with ctrl+alt+F1 (get back with ctrl+alt+F7)
[03:57] <ssstormy> login as root
[03:57] <timfrost> lysis, the shell doesn't expand the wildcard in  '/dev/dvdrw=*.img' , because it sees the whole "word" as a path name
[03:57] <lysis> can't do it in a real terminal either.
[03:57] <ssstormy> Hollowman, never mind.  Just open up Gaim  :)
[03:57] <_jason> Hollowman, put it in your home directory and tar xvzf aim.tgz
[03:58] <ssstormy> lysis, I mean from the username: you put root, and flat out login as root
[03:58] <lysis> timfrost, i don't understand.  it thinks the * is part of the name?
[03:58] <lysis> ssstormy, root is disabled as well.
[03:58] <_jason> Hollowman, what is aim.tgz?
[03:58] <ssstormy> lysis, onyl in X
[03:58] <Hollowman> aol instant messenger
[03:58] <ssstormy> no on virtual ternimals (the F1-6 gourp)
[03:58] <_jason> Hollowman, you don't like gaim?
[03:58] <ssstormy> Hollowman, do you need THE aol instant messanger program?
[03:58] <Hollowman> not really
[03:59] <timfrost> lysis, yes.  It actually thinks the filename is "/dev/dvdrw=*.img" - the = is NOT a shell separator
[03:59] <ssstormy> look for another
[03:59] <Hollowman> i wanted to see how it works
[03:59] <Hollowman> compaired to gaim
[03:59] <ssstormy> search synaptic for AIM or something
[03:59] <_jason> Hollowman, I didn't even know there was aim for linux
[03:59] <xenex> How do I restart the sound? I have closed all media players and the music is still playing.
[03:59] <Hollowman> aim.com :)
[03:59] <_jason> Hollowman, can i ask what you don't like about gaim?  is it a particular feature?  just curious
[03:59] <iluminate> bimberi: thnx! Is there any big site running Ubuntu server that you know?
[04:00] <Hollowman> just decided to try THE aim :)
[04:00] <lysis> _jason, yes. aim makes a linux version. i personally think it sucks compared to gaim.   AIM didn't put any effort into it . . .
[04:00] <lysis> timfrost, is there a way to use the wild card for burning dvds?
[04:01] <lysis> ssstormy, you sure root is available in pure console?
[04:01] <ssstormy> lysis, yeah
[04:01] <ssstormy> only blocked on X login
[04:01] <ssstormy> and that can be changed
[04:01] <lysis> ssstormy, i am unable to login as root.  "Login incorrect"
[04:01] <lysis> using my user's password . . .
[04:01] <ssstormy> that's the problem
[04:02] <ssstormy> you didn't ever set a root password
[04:02] <ssstormy> dunnow what it is
[04:02] <ssstormy> the default that is
[04:02] <lysis> ahh.   i'm not worried about it.
[04:02] <killerbird> in ubuntu, it is your user password
[04:02] <_jason> lysis, don't login as root
[04:02] <lysis> i don't use root; everything i've EVER done is available through sudo.
[04:02] <ssstormy> lysis, that's ok
[04:02] <_jason> ubotu, tell lysis about root
[04:02] <ssstormy> killerbird, wasn't like that for me
[04:02] <lysis> _jason, i don't use root.  i was trying to prove ssstormy wrong. =)
[04:03] <_jason> lysis, oh ok sorry, was reading aim's page about linux :)
[04:03] <lysis> no problem buddy.   i still prefer gaim.  i actually prefer kopete because of the pretty colors but it's too buggy in ubuntu.  (dunno why)      i can't wait for gaim 2.0 to not be beta anymore.  it's AWESOME
[04:03] <timfrost> lysis, in a for loop like the following: for f in *.img do  growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvdrw=$f; done
[04:03] <newuserlaptop> sudo fdisk -l does not show my windows ntfs partition.
[04:04] <newuserlaptop> gpart does
[04:04] <_jason> lysis, yeah the beta looks nice... the aim on aim.com looks... how should I put it... ugly
[04:04] <lysis> timfrost, there are 80+ files in the directory i'm usually in.
[04:04] <xenex> How do I get .aac files to play correctly?
[04:04] <newuserlaptop> /dev/hda1 is listed in fdisk as linux
[04:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell xenex about aaz
[04:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell xenex about aac
[04:04] <xenex> It's a music file
[04:05] <lysis> ubotu, tell xenex about restricted formats
[04:05] <KSF> i give up... i can't get this damn wifi connection to work
[04:06] <kasemodz> hey does anybody know why I can't get a ip address from my wireless router. It doesn't have wep. the wireless card can scan the access points just can't join em for some reason anyboyd plz help..
[04:06] <KSF> none of the compiles are working on my machine (yes i have gcc)
[04:06] <Hollowman> to copy a folder is cp still, right?
[04:06] <newuserlaptop> is there  way to convert to ntfs
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> Hollowman: yeah
[04:06] <Hollowman> ok
[04:06] <_jason> Hollowman, yep, cp source destination
[04:06] <KSF> does someone feel like making a deb package ndiswrapper and ipw2200
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: Convert how?
[04:06] <lysis> somebody should make a deb package of gaim 2.0 beta. lol
[04:06] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: As in make Ubuntu use ntfs instead of ext3? O_o
[04:07] <Hollowman> ..... cp: omitting directory
[04:07] <_jason> lysis, it builds 'ok'
[04:07] <Hollowman> what does tat mean
[04:07] <tafsen> can anyone help me to get aMSN to use ALSA sound?
[04:07] <_jason> Hollowman, cp -r
[04:07] <bshumate> Hollowman: you must use the -R switch to copy a directory (folder) with contents, e.g. cp -R /foo /bar
[04:07] <Hollowman> ok
[04:07] <KSF> unbunu with ext3
[04:07] <Hollowman> thanks
[04:07] <newuserlaptop> as in trying to recover my ntfs partition.
[04:07] <lysis> _jason, i just have a problem with not using packages or apt in general.
[04:07] <KSF> seriously.. im thinking of abandoning linux all togheter... this is pathetic
[04:08] <_jason> lysis, I see
[04:08] <lysis> _jason, it's ok on my "trying out something before i royally screw something up" partition of ubuntu.  =p
[04:08] <chmtdist> hey, I'm kind of new to gnome... is there a key combo that will switch virtual desktops?
[04:08] <lysis> i've got 2 breezy badger installations. =)
[04:08] <KSF> can some please TRY to help me get my wifi connection going
[04:08] <_jason> lysis, meh checkinstall takes care of my worries
[04:08] <lysis> chmtdist, System, Preferences, Keyboard Shortcuts
[04:08] <chmtdist> thanks
[04:08] <Xeppo> Hola all
[04:08] <johndarkhorse> KSF: linux has long been about stability over 'cutting edge'
[04:08] <lysis> chmtdist, you can setup whatever buttons you'd like to do many things. =)
[04:08] <chmtdist> KSF, sure, I can try
[04:08] <tafsen> can anyone help me to get aMSN to use ALSA sound?
[04:08] <chmtdist> KSF, what do you got?
[04:08] <PuMpErNi1kLe> newuserlaptop: Ubuntu can only read ntfs, not write, so you can salvage data, but that's about it.
[04:09] <lysis> tafsen, i don't know if anybody reading has used aMSN with ALSA.  are you sure it is supported?
[04:09] <chmtdist> KSF, what kind of wifi card do you have?
[04:09] <lysis> tafsen, there is an ALSA wrapper for OSS.  if aMSN uses OSS you should look into that.
[04:09] <Xeppo> I'm installing ubuntu on an old Slot P3.  It freezes at 83% on the install every time I try.  When it freezes, it says "Configuring ttf-bengali-fonts"
[04:09] <newuserlaptop> PuMpErNilkle fdisk -l shows /dev/hda1 as a linux system whenit should be windows ntfs
[04:09] <Xeppo> Anyone ever heard of that happening?
[04:10] <tafsen> lysis, I need it to use alsa so I can get sound from it when I use other programs with sound
[04:10] <lysis> tafsen, the package is called 'alsa-oss'    you can type sudo apt-get install alsa-oss in your terminal
[04:10] <chmtdist> KSF, you here?
[04:10] <tafsen> lysis, what about gstreamer?
[04:10] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: did you install disk check out during the verification process?
[04:11] <Xeppo> johndarkhorse: err... what
[04:11] <Xeppo> ?
[04:11] <lysis> tafsen, what that allows you to do is use alsa for oss programs.  i had to use that for TeamSpeak
[04:11] <nocti> hey guys
[04:11] <lysis> tafsen, i don't know how it works with gstreamer to be honest.  i had gstreamer installed and it worked . . .
[04:11] <Xeppo> johndarkhorse: I've tried three different CDs now.  They all hang at the exact same place.
[04:11] <nocti> my typematic setting keeps repeating on X but not on console, i reboot just to fix it. but sometimes it comes back. what do i do? thanks
[04:12] <tafsen> lysis, what's a oss program?
[04:12] <lysis> tafsen, a program which relies on the OSS sound system (open sound system)
[04:12] <chmtdist> no wifi for KFS, i guess
[04:12] <KSF> chmtdist: i sent you a msg directly to you
[04:13] <newuserlaptop> fstab does not show any hda1
[04:13] <chmtdist> KSF, oh sorry , i must not have received it or something :) ?
[04:13] <chmtdist> KSF, i'll query you
[04:13] <KSF> hmm.. thats od
[04:13] <tafsen> lysis, but you don't know how to change the sound source for amsn?
[04:14] <lysis> tafsen, like i said i don't use amsn.  i don't chat with voice.
[04:14] <Xeppo> *pokes*
[04:14] <chmtdist> KSF, can you see my msg?
[04:15] <tafsen> lysis, I don't chat with voice either, but the alert sound doesn't work
[04:15] <david_m_e> SaMBa question: i'm using Ubuntu, but it doesn't seem to have the Samba command 'smbsh'  anyone know if it's called something else? (yes, i a 'find...' for it - nothing)
[04:15] <lysis> tafsen, try GAIM.  it uses MSN, AIM, Yahoo! and more.
[04:15] <KSF> chmtdist: did you get my responses?
[04:15] <lysis> and it's included with Ubuntu
[04:15] <lysis> Xeppo, i wish i knew how to help.  what's the problem buddy?
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, I'm installing ubuntu on my old as hell P3 500mhz
[04:16] <lysis> not working?
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, but every time I try to install, it stops at 83%
[04:16] <chmtdist> KSF, I can't seem to see your message, (although i didn't spend a lot of time setting up my client) just join #KSF-wifi
[04:16] <lysis> Xeppo, it could be a number of things.     what discs are you using?  burned them yourself?
[04:16] <KSF> k.
[04:16] <Xeppo> lysis, when it hits "configuring ttf-bengali-fonts"
[04:17] <Xeppo> lysis, got them from shipit - and I've tried 3 different CDs.
[04:17] <lysis> Xeppo, it sounds like you have a bad image.  did you re-download the disc and then re-burn it any of those 3 discs you used?
[04:17] <Shadyman> Hey guys.. what's the vga= option for 1280x800?
[04:17] <lysis> you're using the shipits?  ok those are **almost always** perfect.
[04:17] <lysis> you sure your disc drive is good?   you sure the drive is good?
[04:17] <Eleaf> lol
[04:17] <lysis> it's stopping in that spot for a reason.
[04:18] <Xeppo> lysis - it might be the harddrive, but I havn't had any problems before
[04:18] <lysis> there's ALWAYS a reason.  it doesn't sound like it's the media, it sounds like something is wrong with the hardware it's going on.
[04:18] <Xeppo> lysis - I know the cdrom is fine
[04:18] <lysis> what size is the hard drive?
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: more likely it's your cd-rom drive if it's hardware.
[04:18] <Xeppo> ~7 gigw
[04:18] <Xeppo> but it hangs AFTER I take the cd out
[04:18] <johndarkhorse> Xeppo: during the install, choose 'expert' and find the verify media option
[04:19] <lysis> the size isnt' a problem . . . i really think it might be your rom drive . . .     do you have extra hardware that you can test in that computer system?
[04:19] <lysis> thanks johndarkhorse. didn't know that was an option. =)
[04:19] <Xeppo> lysis and johndarkhorse: I'll try to varify the CD
[04:19] <david_m_e> shadyman u there?
[04:19] <Xeppo> Verify, rather
[04:19] <Xeppo> I'll probably be back.
[04:20] <thev> anyone have a wacom tablet working in Dapper?
[04:21] <lysis> thev, did it work in breezy?
[04:21] <thev> I never had breezy
[04:21] <thev> it won't install for me
[04:21] <lysis> ouch . . . what's wrong with breezy to where it won't install?
[04:21] <david_m_e> Samba experts out there? i can't get Samba on my Ubuntu system to let me log on from a Windows box AND don't have a clue where i go to add a user
[04:21] <thev> it won't pull anything from the CD (after language selection) to start the process
[04:21] <lysis> i'd recommend using breezy for now.  dapper is still under development and won't be officially available until some time in april (and i still won't want to use it for another month after that)
[04:21] <thev> I don't know what's up
[04:22] <thev> Dapper installs no prob
[04:22] <thev> breezy AMD64 and i386 gimmie the same grief
[04:22] <cafuego> thev: maybe, but it *is* currently broken.
[04:22] <lysis> thev, did you verify data after burning the Breezy disc?  maybe you should follow the directions johndarkhorse just gave Xeppo and hit advanced options and verify data. =)
[04:22] <killerbird> what do i have to do to fix the following error... it shows up when i try to compile stuff...checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[04:22] <killerbird> 
[04:22] <thev> can I install breezy from dapper?
[04:23] <cafuego> You must fix the desire to create executables and use precompiled packages.
[04:23] <lysis> killerbird, you need additional things.  crap what did i have to install last night . . .
[04:23] <cafuego> thev: nope
[04:23] <killerbird> thanks cafuego , i would have never guessed :P ;)
[04:23] <maxtnk> hi
[04:23] <lysis> killerbird, install build-essential
[04:23] <cafuego> dataangel: 'sudo smbpasswd --help' :-)
[04:23] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[04:23] <killerbird> i dunno :(?
[04:23] <lysis> johndarkhorse, beat ya to it. =)
[04:24] <cafuego> killerbird: And don't just run 'make install' as root, it will plonk stuff everywhere. Use 'checkinstall'.
[04:24] <killerbird> apt install build-essential?
[04:24] <lysis> killerbird, type "sudo apt-get install build-essential"
[04:24] <cafuego> What are you building anyway?
[04:24] <lysis> that is a good question as well cafuego
[04:24] <lysis> johndarkhorse, i'm not either.  i was happy i remembered it. lol =)
[04:24] <killerbird> it sayds it is already the newest version
[04:24] <killerbird> wine for amd 64
[04:24] <lysis> hmmm
[04:25] <killerbird> word
[04:25] <lysis> i'm unfortunately not familiar with x64.  you're stuck there
[04:25] <cafuego> killerbird: Does thata ctually work *at all*?
[04:25] <lysis> i prefer x86 even on x64 systems since there's not enough progs available.
[04:25] <killerbird> cafuego,  the wine website claims that for ppc and amd64, just comile the binaries
[04:25] <killerbird> i mean
[04:25] <killerbird> the source
[04:25] <killerbird> silly me
[04:25] <maxtnk> who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:26] <cafuego> killerbird: ppc? How would that execute win32 code?
[04:26] <foampeace> !uboto xmltv
[04:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, foampeace
[04:26] <killerbird> i dunno
[04:26] <Eleaf> lol
[04:26] <foampeace> !ubotu xmltv
[04:26] <ubotu> foampeace: I don't know
[04:26] <Eleaf> foampeace, you must have angered the ubotu
[04:26] <killerbird> i dont even know 3what ppc is i'm only itereted in amd64 :P
[04:27] <skon> ppc = power pc
[04:27] <killerbird> ah i see now
[04:27] <tempest1> is anybody aware of a command that's used to automatically launch a program to use a SOCKS server
[04:27] <danielmccauley> can anyone help getting the airport wireless workin in a powerbook for ubuntu?
[04:27] <lysis> killerbird, ppc = apple i believe.
[04:27] <killerbird> yea
[04:27] <skon> Does anyone know how to fix the problem of fonts not being displayed in man correctly?
[04:27] <maxtnk> want new version a kernel
[04:27] <killerbird> that makes sense
[04:27] <ianw_> Does anyone here have World of Warcraft working with wine?
[04:28] <Papoose> what is the difference between xinetd.d and init.d?
[04:28] <maxtnk> who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:28] <cafuego> danielmccauley: airport extreme? Which kernel?
[04:28] <lysis> ianw_, have you looked into cedega?   they claim it works there.
[04:28] <foampeace> any docs on xmltv anywhere
[04:28] <foampeace> ?
[04:28] <danielmccauley> the one that would come with breezy
[04:28] <tempest1> foampeace, google
[04:28] <danielmccauley> im assuming before dapper
[04:28] <lysis> foampeace, i'm unfamiliar with what that is.
[04:28] <lysis> danielmccauley, i'm not sure how many people in here are usin ppc.
[04:28] <cafuego> danielmccauley: If you have normal airport, it should be detected. If you have airport extreme (802.11g) it's not going to work.
[04:29] <danielmccauley> i think i have extreme
[04:29] <lysis> cafuego, 802.11b will work though?
[04:29] <danielmccauley> i thought they came out with something
[04:29] <cafuego> lysis: Not with that hardware
[04:29] <maxtnk> please help  who knows what kernel by means of apt-get update?
[04:29] <lysis> cafuego, do you know if it can be emulated with the normal drivers and he can be stuck using 802.11b?
[04:29] <cafuego> danielmccauley: They did, but it's very alpha (makes my mac lock up) and you'll need the absolute latest bleeding edge ubuntu.
[04:29] <killerbird> crap
[04:29] <lysis> maxtnk, the kernel will update itself automatically using the update manager.
[04:30] <skon> maxtnk, it does it automatically unless you want a different architecutre
[04:30] <lysis> cafuego, so he needs to get cvs version of dapper to get it running?
[04:30] <killerbird> this whole 64 bit processor thing is pissing me off.. i figured i waited long enough for there to be stuff for it -_-
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: Does your networks use wep?
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: or wpa?
[04:30] <danielmccauley> yes but i can disable it
[04:30] <danielmccauley> wep
[04:30] <lysis> killerbird, wait longer. =)          i'd wait until middle of 06 honestly.
[04:30] <foampeace> xmltv should be a free tv listings program
[04:30] <foampeace> i have yet to get it working
[04:30] <cafuego> danielmccauley: Ok. You can upgrade to dapper and install kernel 2.6.15-11
[04:31] <Xeppo> I'm running 64-bit right now :-D!  ((but it's windows! :-P))
[04:31] <maxtnk> lysis: and not it is necessary to prescribe in grub,
[04:31] <cafuego> danielmccauley: The ppc kernel guy reckons he got his to work ...
[04:31] <killerbird> wells it frustrating, I can understand it taking that long for the windows community but i expected the linux folks to be rocking with it ;/
[04:31] <skon> Does anyone know how to fix the problem of fonts not being displayed in man correctly?
[04:31] <borisattva> i did a full ubuntu reinstall, installed the official nvidia drivers, lexmark printer, full gstream package, k3b, nerolinux, mplayer, xmms, celestia and grisbi, then went to set up access to my remote ftp server, and all mounted connections give me this http://pastebin.com/507654
[04:32] <lysis> maxtnk, it automatically updates grub after auto updating.
[04:32] <lysis> maxtnk, you'll see the new kernel option and the old kernel option
[04:32] <borisattva> did my ftp association get screwed up somewhere laong the way? on all my prveious installs. ftp was nevre a problem
[04:32] <skon> borisattva, are you trying to connect to another ftp site?
[04:32] <lysis> borisattva, you need an ftp server working still?
[04:33] <borisattva> yes
[04:33] <maxtnk> lysis: thank you that has told
[04:33] <lysis> borisattva, go to http://wiki.ubuntu.com and search for pureftp
[04:33] <skon> borisattva, you need to have proftpd or something like that installed
[04:33] <borisattva> i alredya have an ftp server its off a hosting compnay i use. i have set up the name and credentials. same as all the other tiem. dialogue is very basic as you know.. but some thing is different
[04:33] <ray_> how do i unpack a .tgz file? newbie here...
[04:33] <lysis> borisattva, i prefer the pureftp version offered in the wiki.      it takes about 12 minutes to completely configure.  reboot when done so it loads the pure-ftpd
[04:34] <skon> ray_: do tar -xczf file
[04:34] <lysis> borisattva, so you don't want your current pc to HOST an ftp server?
[04:34] <Xeppo> borisattva: You have to have a FTP client installed before you can FTP in.  Install an FTP client.
[04:34] <ray_> thank you
[04:34] <borisattva> thanks. checking synaptic now.. just surpsied that this is the FIRST TIME it didnt work. after aeach reinstall it would work out of the box.
[04:34] <skon> ray_: actually tar -xzf I think
[04:34] <maxtnk> lysis: but other arhitecture this what
[04:34] <killerbird> how much does cedega cost?
[04:34] <Mathais> does anyone know a good wireless card that will work with ubuntu?
[04:34] <skon> ray_, or you can do it in natuilus by right clicking
[04:34] <Xeppo> Lysis: My CD=ROM is valid.
[04:34] <thugren> Hey so how is everyone doing
[04:34] <killerbird> ah man 5 bucks a month
[04:35] <johndarkhorse> killerbird: there is a free version (of money) it's a cvs version (no support)
[04:35] <lysis> maxtnk, i don't understand
[04:35] <skon> Mathais: Belkin FD7010 costs $30
[04:35] <Mathais> ty skon
[04:35] <borisattva> xeppo: i am trying to use ordinalry Pleaces > Connect to server basic ftp that is included.
[04:35] <killerbird> what does cvs stand for?
[04:35] <lysis> Xeppo, i would check the hdd somehow . . . not sure how you can do it.  maybe go to your hard drive mfg website and download one of their tools to test.
[04:35] <ray_> is it tar xvfz source.tgz?
[04:35] <skon> ray_: yes
[04:35] <Xeppo> lysis: I think I'll just try another drive... I've got like 20 of 'em
[04:36] <thugren> mathais, I have prism style on and there is a DLink 650+ i know it works with ubuntu
[04:36] <lysis> Xeppo, i'd recommend that.  definitely test that drive though. =)
[04:36] <ray_> saw instructions elsewhere but needed to double-check
[04:36] <Xeppo> lysis: of course!
[04:36] <thugren> mathais is for a laptop or a desktop?
[04:36] <skon> anyone have problems displaying special characters in the man program? mine get messed up...
[04:36] <david_m_e> ROOT user: can anyone tell me why Ubuntu won't let me login as root (invalid password) ?
[04:36] <borisattva> ok guys i looked into that. thats setting up a SERVER. i'm trying to access one that is alreday set up and configured. i'm merely trying to make a connection to one available on the deksop..
[04:36] <skon> david_m_e, root is disabled by default
[04:37] <skon> ubotu: tell david_m_e about sudo
[04:37] <metrix> My laptop will not allow me to boot off of my cd-rom. Is there a floppy disk that I can have point to my ubuntu live cd somehow?
[04:37] <danielmccauley> did u set the password david_m_e?
[04:37] <borisattva> you know that connected brown folder icon with FTP over it.
[04:37] <thugren> david, you have enable root user
[04:37] <hyphenated> metrix: how old is this laptop?
[04:37] <borisattva> it seemingly was a part of nautilus
[04:37] <david_m_e> is there any good reason (other than that i might screw things up) why it should be disabled?
[04:37] <maxtnk> ubuntu supports all hardware on notebook or no?
[04:37] <hyphenated> david_m_e: because the official way to do things is by using 'sudo'
[04:37] <skon> david_m_e, security, safety
[04:37] <lysis> ubotu, tell david_m_e about root
[04:38] <metrix> hyphenated it's not that old, it's an athlon 4 1ghz! it's an hp and is having a hard time accessing the cd as a boot device
[04:38] <david_m_e> danielmccauley as far as i can remember, when i installed Ubuntu, it never asked me what password root should have
[04:38] <hyphenated> david_m_e: and it 'proves' that you don't need a root account to maintain a box :-)
[04:38] <skon> lysis: already done that
[04:38] <borisattva> max: with luck.. my dell 8100 was fully supported after a rinstall. i'm runnign dapper on it
[04:38] <lysis> david_m_e, my personal relief is the fact that you don't have to worry about ROOT HACKS.
[04:38] <thugren> metrnk,if your on a live cd.. Just shut off your laptop..
[04:38] <hyphenated> metrix: that's a bit weak. have you checked in BIOS to see whether CDROM is a valid boot device?
[04:39] <thugren> There is no harddrive accessed so to you can't do anydamage
[04:39] <kasz> hey guys, i recompiled the kernel on my ubuntu, but when i try to boot it, it goes into a kernel panic and complains that /lib/modules/2.6.10/modules.dep doesn't exist (it does, i checked)
[04:39] <david_m_e> here is my problem with sudo: when i try to use the samba utility 'add user' or even 'list users' it tells me that it couldn't connect to the server (which is the very machine i'm trying i'm working from)
[04:39] <metrix> hyphenated: yes I even set it to boot before the floppy.. it skips it everytime.  I have been able to read cd's off of it through windows so I know it works
[04:39] <maxtnk> this much pleases
[04:39] <david_m_e> in fact, sudo <samba utility> returns no (useful) output
[04:40] <david_m_e> if i'm woried about root hacks, i will just remove the ethernet cable until i'm done
[04:40] <hyphenated> david_m_e: example? I just ran 'sudo smbstatus' and it worked fine
[04:40] <lysis> david_m_e, everything i've needed to do i can do as sudo
[04:41] <david_m_e> i will go reproduce the exact problem and brb... thanks
[04:41] <metrix> hyphenated: I was hoping there was a floppy that I could use just to boot and then point to my cd-rom is there such a thing?
[04:41] <hyphenated> metrix: I don't know of any
[04:41] <hyphenated> david_m_e: put the output into a pastebin
[04:42] <lysis> metrix, i don't think ubuntu has one but i know other distros have made them in the past.
[04:42] <david_m_e> hypenated i don't have a clue what that means (sorry)
[04:42] <lysis> david_m_e, www.pastebin.com i believe.  that way you don't flood the channel with a huge paste.
[04:42] <maxtnk> borisattva:  breezy possible not to put but better wait stable dapper?
[04:42] <metrix> well I thank ya'll for your help. I will look for more information out on the internet! :)
[04:42] <david_m_e> oh, its only 1 or 2 short lines (but thanks tho)
[04:42] <david_m_e> good info
[04:43] <Papoose> ubutu: tell me about xinetd
[04:43] <hyphenated> Papoose: there's an o in there somewhere ;-)
[04:43] <Papoose> :)
[04:44] <maxtnk> when will leave stable dapper?
[04:44] <Cythril> Hey, I'm curious, I've seen lots of screenshots that have a Mac-OS type toolbar on the bottom of the screen, like this:  http://www.gnome-look.org/content/m1/m13548-1.png  How could I set up my Linux to have that type of toolbar?
[04:44] <ianw_> lysis: Sorry. I had to go AFK. World of Wacraft. Cedega. Yah, looked at it, but I know some of the people who run it,  and am not too keen to support them to be honest
[04:44] <rabbit> does anyone know how to mount USB keys???
[04:44] <Papoose> ubotu tell me about xinetd
[04:44] <lysis> ianw_, my understanding is the software can be obtained for free, you just have to pay for the updates.  i could be wrong.  i do know i've found the software and wasn't impressed by it (nothing worked)
[04:44] <irvin> !info xinetd
[04:44] <ubotu> xinetd: (replacement for inetd with many enhancements), section net, is extra. Version: 1:2.3.13-3 (breezy), Packaged size: 127 kB, Installed size: 348 kB
[04:45] <cactii> Could somebody tell me which directory installed programs go in???
[04:45] <borisattva> max: it was there before. i think some of the applications i installed/unintsalled messed it up. but it definietly worked before out of the box. possibly firestarter screwed something up. i'm trying to 'reinstall ' nautilus right now
[04:45] <cactii> please
[04:45] <cactii> I know it is a dumb question...
[04:45] <kasz> hey guys, i recompiled the kernel on my ubuntu, but when i try to boot it, it goes into a kernel panic and complains that /lib/modules/2.6.10/modules.dep doesn't exist (it does, i checked)
[04:45] <hyphenated> cactii: they go into lots of places for different reasons. why?
[04:45] <kasz> any ideas?
[04:45] <lysis> i've gotta get going guys
[04:45] <ianw_> lysis: Well, I did try their trial earlier today, and I couldn't figure out how to install it :( this from a person that has no problems patching wine with various patches on the net, but none of them have worked well :( Still not able to select NPCs or anything :(
[04:45] <lysis> i'll be back later to help more. =)
[04:45] <irvin> cactii: /usr
[04:45] <cactii> hyphenated, I installed a temperature monitoring program and cannot find it :(
[04:46] <hyphenated> cactii: what'd you use to install it?
[04:46] <lysis> ianw_, i don't know what to tell you.  i installed it just fine.  go to www.ubuntuforums.org   i know there was a HOWTO up there somewhere for installing cedega.   i'm taking off though.  i'm sure you'll get it going.  i'll be back in an hour or so
[04:46] <lysis> later guys.
[04:46] <ianw_> thx. laters
[04:46] <cactii> hyphenated, the synaptic package manager...
[04:46] <rabbit> does anyone know how to mount USB keys???
[04:46] <ianw_> ya, followed the howto :( I will keep messing with the code I guess
[04:46] <hyphenated> cactii: great. find the package in the list, and right-click on it
[04:46] <vbgunz> Anyone here have a SONY DVD Handy Cam? If so, do you use Linux to burn your home movies into a format similar to MPG, AVI? I would really appreciate tips on turning my DVD home movies into a smaller format...
[04:47] <abood> guys the downloaded files from xchat where can i find them ?
[04:47] <hyphenated> cactii: choose 'Properties' and you should get a new dialog with tabs on it
[04:47] <hyphenated> one of those tabs is 'Installed Files'
[04:47] <phreak97> is there a linux equivilent to ebay turbolister?
[04:47] <johndarkhorse> vbgunz: transcode, or ffmpeg, or mencoder. dvdauthor
[04:47] <maxtnk> cactii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelByHandHowto?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22KernelByHandHowto%22&context=180
[04:47] <Delvien> Anyone have an idea on how to undervolt the CPU ?
[04:48] <abood> guys the downloaded files from xchat where can i find them ??
[04:48] <psusi> Delvien, why do you ask?
[04:48] <david_m_e> hypenated lysis do u remember my question from 10 minutes ago... i can't find the 'smbsh' command (smb shell) - it appears as if its not part of Ubuntu Samba; if it is, its not pathed or named something else; THAT would help me more, i think... still working on reproducing the other problem
[04:48] <cactii> Thanks
[04:48] <Cythril> Anyone know why I when I try to extract a theme tar.gz to /usr/share/themes, the password line is grayed out, but it says "access restricted?"
[04:48] <Delvien> psusi Because i want to undervolt my centrino processor to save battery life, ( like in winblowz )
[04:49] <hyphenated> david_m_e: I've never heard of smbsh :-)
[04:49] <_jason> Cythril, use ~/.themes
[04:49] <Cythril> ?
[04:49] <skon> Cythril, are you trying to install a theme for gnome/
[04:49] <EZgun> meow.
[04:49] <Cythril> Yeah.
[04:49] <timfrost> abood, try ~/.xchat2/downloads
[04:49] <psusi> Delvien, generally that is done automatically to the extent that is safe/possible by the same mechanism that lowers the clock rate
[04:49] <skon> Cythril, open up the Themes window, and drag the file into the window...it'll install automagically
[04:49] <david_m_e> hmm... the official Samba book documents it (http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/samba2/book/ch01.html)
[04:49] <Cythril> Oh, okay.
[04:49] <david_m_e> oh well
[04:49] <danielmccauley> can anyone help me configure my airport extreme card in my powerbook?
[04:50] <abood> thx timfrost let me try
[04:50] <maxtnk> danielmccauley: google.com
[04:50] <Delvien> psusi its not native to any OS or distro because not all OS detect the safe running limits of the voltage. IE so many variations of processors 715 720 730 740 745 etc
[04:50] <abood> timfrost, worked ;)
[04:51] <Cythril> Cool, that worked, thanks.
[04:51] <MrPockets> is there a code to update a program?
[04:51] <MrPockets> like Firefox,or GAIM?
[04:51] <skon> MrPockets, sudo apt-get update, sudo apt-get upgrade
[04:51] <psusi> Delvien, generally it isn't a good idea to go under what the chip manufacturer says is the minimum... it might appear to work for a while, then you wonder why the system randomly crashes periodically
[04:51] <killerbird> in ubuntu, use sypnapis
[04:51] <Delvien> psusi undervolting my CPU brings it down from 0.986 ( or something near it) to 0.732,
[04:51] <MrPockets> skon, so would it be   sudo apt-get updare GAIM
[04:52] <Delvien> psusi only if you dont know what you are doing
[04:52] <skon> MrPockets, no, just what I typed
[04:52] <kasz> maxtnk, that link doesn't exist
[04:52] <lysis> MrPockets, what are you trying to do?
[04:52] <psusi> Delvien, what is cpufreq setting the voltage to when it is idle?
[04:52] <skon> MrPockets, assuming it's in the repository, it'll update automagically
[04:52] <Delvien> psusi what do i cat?
[04:52] <MrPockets> i have the default version of Firefox that comes with the install
[04:52] <z0rz> How do I run an application on boot up?
[04:52] <lysis> MrPockets, i see update gaim.  if you're trying to get 2.0 it's still beta, therefore it will not be in the repositories.
[04:53] <lysis> z0rz, you go System, Preferences, Sessions.   third tab over
[04:53] <Eleaf> How do I have gtk apps use a theme?
[04:53] <Eleaf> lol
[04:53] <lysis> Eleaf, have you checked the wiki?
[04:53] <Eleaf> In Kde ; )
[04:53] <lysis> ooo i dunno kde sorry buddy.
[04:53] <Eleaf> lysis, or openbox
[04:53] <lysis> i only use gnome.  someday will use e17 when it's stable.
[04:54] <Eleaf> lysis, certainly,  I always search before asking a question.  But it still complains that the theme doesn't exist...
[04:54] <z0rz> lysis I'm using kubuntu .. where's that at?
[04:54] <Eleaf> z0rz, ?
[04:54] <hyphenated> Eleaf: gtk2-engines-gtk-qt might help
[04:54] <killerbird> anyone here installed the cedega time demo before?
[04:54] <z0rz> I don't see Preferences under "System"
[04:54] <lysis> z0rz, sorry; i only know GNOME
[04:54] <hyphenated> Eleaf: #kubuntu might help more ;-)
[04:54] <Eleaf> hyakuhei, hmm.  'What will that do?
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyphenated, like there is ever anybody in there...
[04:55] <irvin> danielmccauley: lookie here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> i can't get kubuntu or ubuntu's install disc to work on my laptop
[04:55] <maxtnk> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelBuildpackageHowto
[04:55] <lysis> Eleaf, odd . . .  do you have all of the theming things installed?
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyphenated, I'm not necesarilly using kde anyways... openbox at the moment.
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> it is a gateway m675
[04:55] <hyphenated> Eleaf: it's a magical thing that gets added to your control center to let you make GTK apps look like KDE apps
[04:55] <Eleaf> lysis, I believe so
[04:55] <Eleaf> hyakuhei, I don't have a control center...
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> I get to where I just have to press enter and then nothing happens.
[04:55] <hyphenated> it's for KDE. if you're not using that, then ignore me entirely
[04:55] <frazmanw> u 64 bit and go back to 32 bit. Under 64 bit I can not get my ATI x300 video card to have accelleration. but in 32 bit it is fine. Help!
[04:55] <DAaaMan64> does anyone know what is going on?????
[04:57] <lysis> hey, what can i use on GDM to make it look super sweet?  kickass effects and all that.    no offense . . . but this human theme's GOT to go. =)
[04:57] <thev> ok, sorry I had to take off for a bit, so I missed the answer to my Q.
[04:57] <thev> can I install breezy from dapper?
[04:57] <_jason> Is it possible for me to not allow sudo to be used remotely?
[04:57] <cafuego> lysis: Install a different theme, ot make one.
[04:57] <cafuego> thev: Still no.
[04:57] <thev> crappy
[04:57] <nvez> night.
[04:57] <Eleaf> lysis, I have a nice gdm theme.  ; )  It's pretty.
[04:57] <newuserlaptop> how do I make a disk accessable in disk manager. sys>admin>disk
[04:57] <Davey`> thev: well, there's a reason !dapper says what it says.
[04:57] <lysis> cafuego, i'd like dashboards and embedded objects and shadows and invisible effects.
[04:57] <Davey`> !tell thev about dapper
[04:58] <hyphenated> _jason: in theory, it looks like that's possible. you'll need to search on google for an example I expect.
[04:58] <Davey`> So what is being added in Dapper?
[04:58] <cafuego> lysis: Oh, crashy features...
[04:58] <Davey`> new version of Gnome?
[04:58] <thev> yeah I know it's alpha, but nothing else will install
[04:58] <thev> I tried downloading and burning from different places
[04:58] <_jason> hyphenated, I've searched and found mention of it but no example.  i was hoping someone had done it here, but I'll keep searching
[04:58] <cafuego> lysis: in gdm? Why?
[04:58] <lysis> cafuego, precisely!  i want the linux equivalent to vista.   yes yes i know, fluff and obnoxiousness.  but it's what i personally want.
[04:58] <skon> Can someone help me mount a usb disk with 2 partitions as r/w? I'm having some permissions errors
[04:59] <hyphenated> _jason: I've never tried. sorry
[04:59] <Davey`> thev: well you have two options, reformat/re-install over Dapper (the latter is a bad idea) or you just have to wait till Dapper gets better.
[04:59] <_jason> hyphenated, any idea what it might involve so I can focus my search?
[04:59] <lysis> cafuego, what do you recommend?   i use gdm because it's what ubuntu came with, i feel it works fine.  it uses my volume wheel on the keyboard and my ATi remote works.
[04:59] <Xoritor> ok, how do i get the "latest and greatest" nvidia driver to install correctly?
[04:59] <trappist> is there a right way to have a command run at bootup as root?
[04:59] <hyphenated> there's an example in the manpage, but it's not all that friendly
[04:59] <Kyral> use Dapper
[04:59] <lysis> that stuff doesn't work with kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <thev> reinstall what over dapper, though?
[04:59] <cafuego> lysis: I think you mean 'Gnome' when you say 'gdm'.
[04:59] <thev> unless I go with a different distro
[04:59] <lysis> cafuego, gnome desktop manager.
[04:59] <lysis> gdm.
[05:00] <lysis> just like kubuntu-desktop is kdm.
[05:00] <cafuego> lysis: gdm is the login screen.
[05:00] <Torvitas> !list
[05:00] <ubotu> methinks list is you can see a list of things I know at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage
[05:00] <DAaaMan64> can you install ubuntu from the internet?
[05:00] <cafuego> lysis: There's not much point in candying up the login window, as you don't generally stare at it for hours.
[05:00] <bimberi> trappist: add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[05:00] <Xoritor> oh and the issue i had was that the kernel was compiled with gcc 3.x and my gcc (from apt-get) is 4.x
[05:00] <lysis> cafuego, i stare at login for days . . .     ok well sorry for getting the names mixed up.  i want eye candy through the desktop.
[05:01] <trappist> bimberi: that's what I've been doing.  seems a bit hackish, bit if that's the officially sanctioned way, cool
[05:01] <lysis> i assumed GDM meant gnome desktop manager.  not GLogin DscreenM
[05:01] <Xoritor> Gnome Display Mangater
[05:01] <Xoritor> but close
[05:01] <Xoritor> err
[05:01] <Xoritor> s/Mangater/Manager
[05:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mangater?
[05:01] <lysis> Xoritor, at least i didn't think it meant login screen!  lol
[05:02] <bimberi> trappist: i don't think i qualify as an official sanctioner :P  but that's the way as i understand it
[05:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Scaly, bipedal, with a giant mouth and crazy long teeth?
[05:02] <lysis> =P   but back to the real question at hand . . .       i want candy! =P
[05:02] <Delvien> psusi seems voltage readings are not in the box, for ubuntu
[05:02] <house_> hi everyone
[05:02] <mathew> thats not a question.
[05:02] <bimberi> DAaaMan64: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation includes some "advanced" install methods
[05:02] <house_> anyone using dapper?
[05:02] <newuserlaptop> i tried to mount windows, nothing shows. gpart shows /dev/hda1 as ntfs but fdisk shows /dev/hda1 as linux. help
[05:02] <borisattva> house_: here
[05:03] <_jason> hyphenated, yeah I'm seeing some stuff that may be relevant in sudoers.  I think I'll create a new user and play with it.  Thanks
[05:03] <cafuego> lysis: I'd avoid drop shadows and transparency, they cause memory leaks & crashing. Apart from that, run whatever you like, use whatever theme you like. Check out gdesklets and art.gnome.org
[05:03] <house_> borisattva: does your add applications menu work?
[05:03] <trappist> if I get elected dictator of ubuntu, I'll see to it that there's a /etc/boot.d where you put arbitrary scripts to be run at boot time
[05:03] <borisattva> yep. i added gnucash earlier.. whats happenign in your case?
[05:03] <hyphenated> _jason: it looks complex tho, hey ;-) keep a root shell open incase you screw it up, and good luck!
[05:03] <cafuego> trappist: Is there any particular reason why you can't do that NOW with run-parts?
[05:03] <_jason> hyphenated, ha yeah, let's hope not :P
[05:04] <trappist> cafuego: yes.  namely, I don't know what that is.
[05:04] <house_> hyphenated: when i ran it from the terminal it said something about no software module  or something
[05:04] <lysis> cafuego, what if i would like to at least try out drop shadows and transparency?  where do i go to try it for gnome?
[05:04] <tafsen> Why can I play mp3 files in BMP but not in Rhythmbox?
[05:04] <cafuego> lysis: You need to enable that in xorg, not Gnome.
[05:04] <house_> borisattva: also what version of java did dapper give you?
[05:04] <cafuego> lysis: Check the docs for xcompmgr, I think.
[05:04] <lysis> ahhh      in the wiki?
[05:04] <Kyral> tafsen: because BMP has its own legal version of the MP3 encoder
[05:05] <borisattva> house_: booting it up now to check
[05:05] <MrDez> tafsen: just install/use xmms
[05:05] <tafsen> Kyral, How can I get mp3's to work in Rhythmbox?
[05:05] <Delvien> They break dapper yet?
[05:05] <trappist> cafuego: what's run-parts
[05:05] <DAaaMan64> bimberi, thanks for the response, I think it can help.
[05:05] <borisattva> i would guess the generic one. as they cant include sun java coz of licensing
[05:05] <Kyral> tafsen: w32codecs
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !mp3
[05:05] <ubotu> it has been said that mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:05] <bimberi> tafsen: you probably need to install the gstreamer plugins - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:05] <Eleaf> hi cafuego
[05:05] <ray_> i recently saw this article on digg.com "http://blog.hypexr.org/?p=105" and i've run into some trouble when i type "ruport -v"
[05:05] <bimberi> DAaaMan64: np :)
[05:06] <tafsen> Kyral, w32codecs are installed
[05:06] <cafuego> trappist: You familiar with the command 'man' ?
[05:06] <tafsen> bimberi I'l try that
[05:06] <lysis> ubotu, tell tafsen about restricted formats
[05:06] <lysis> tafsen, go to that page on the wiki and follow all directions. that will get it working.  and more.
[05:06] <zodd> im having trouble compiling stuff with my fresh install... have gcc 4 installed but dont know what more packages i need?
[05:07] <trappist> cafuego: had no idea it was a command (run-parts I mean)
[05:07] <bimberi> zodd: build-essential
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zodd: Did you install the 'build-essential' package?
[05:07] <cafuego> trappist: cron uses it lots, stuff like logrotate does too, I think.
[05:07] <cello_rasp> are there any text editors that support regex-based replace and find?
[05:07] <ray_> here's what i end up getting as an error message:
[05:07] <ray_> ray@ubuntu:~/rubygems-0.8.11$ ruport -v
[05:07] <ray_> /usr/lib/ruby/gems/1.8/gems/ruport-0.2.9/lib/ruport/report/fake_engine.rb:12: uninitialized constant Ruport::Report::Engine (NameError)
[05:08] <borisattva> house_: gnu java
[05:08] <cafuego> trappist: So basically, drop a custom script in /etc/rc2.d/ that calls run-parts /etc/rc.boot
[05:08] <cafuego> trappist: amnd dump any scripts there
[05:08] <trappist> cafuego: no need, I just noticed /etc/init.d/rcS does a run-parts /etc/rc.boot :)
[05:08] <Cythril> uboto, tell me about fonts
[05:08] <sam_> hi, i'm a ubuntu newbie and linux newbie. i have a hardeware question. would anyone like to help me?
[05:09] <borisattva> house_:4.0.3 "1.4.2"
[05:09] <ray_> does anyone here know about installing ruby on rails?
[05:09] <Cythril> ubotu, tell me about fonts
[05:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sam_: Sure - what's the question?
[05:09] <cafuego> !rails
[05:09] <ubotu> cafuego: Are you on ritalin?
[05:09] <trappist> sam_: since you're an irc newbie too, I'll point out real friendly-like that you have to ask a question to have it answered :)
[05:09] <cafuego> ubotu: yes
[05:09] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, cafuego?
[05:09] <cafuego> !listvals rails
[05:09] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'rails' by value returned no results.
[05:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu: no
[05:09] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[05:09] <house_> borisattva: k i'm getting this error about the add applications thing        No module named SoftwareProperties
[05:09] <Kyral> Stop playing with the Bot
[05:09] <trappist> ray_: get the source of rubygems and sudo gem install rails
[05:10] <ray_> done that
[05:10] <trappist> ray_: so, what's your question?
[05:10] <sam_> sorry, i got a call
[05:10] <ray_> following that guide i gave the url to, it says to install ruport, so i did
[05:10] <ray_> then it says to type "ruport -v"
[05:10] <zodd> it works! thanks for the help
[05:10] <ray_> that's when things break down
[05:10] <borisattva> hmm no errors on that laptop install.. my dekstop on the other hand.. load of probelms nautilus.. drives.. etc.. must be something in the hardware profile
[05:11] <trappist> ray_: I never heard of ruport, and I've installed rails dozens of times.  what's your question?
[05:11] <sam_> sorry, i'm back
[05:11] <borisattva> try making a post in development section of ubuntuforums.org maybe someone knows a fix
[05:11] <ray_> do i really need ruport?
[05:11] <Xoritor> so can anyone tell me if there is a kernel compiled with gcc 4?
[05:11] <house_> ok
[05:11] <ray_> i've never heard of it either
[05:11] <trappist> ray_: if that's your question, I think it's safe to say the answer is no.
[05:11] <Octane> anyone know why im gettign this error when trying to make a backup of my files... "cp: cannot create regular file `/mnt/backup/share/apps/kmail/mail/.Archives.directory/.Freelance.directory/Essential DownUnder/cur/1120022980.000022.mbox:2,S': Invalid argument"
[05:11] <sam_> i have a driverless raid card. works in mandriva, but not ubuntu
[05:11] <Octane> of my  kmail that is
[05:11] <tman_ubuntu> Hey guys, I'm having trouble with class paths using java.  Can anyone help?
[05:12] <ray_> how do i make sure mysql is installed?
[05:12] <sam_> is there way to start it in ubuntu
[05:12] <trappist> Octane: how exactly are you trying to backup?
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: cp -r x uy
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: cp -r x y
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: from ext3 to fat32
[05:12] <cafuego> sam_: What card would that be?
[05:12] <trappist> Octane: try -R
[05:12] <sam_> revo64
[05:12] <Octane> trappist: same error
[05:13] <_jason> Octane, paste the actual command pls
[05:13] <sam_> 5 port SATA PCI card
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Octane: cp -R -x -y ?
[05:13] <Octane> _jason: sudo cp -R share/ /mnt/backup/
[05:13] <sam_> made by netcell
[05:13] <Octane> PuMpErNiCkLe: x being folder y being destination :)
[05:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Octane: nvm :)
[05:13] <trappist> Octane: in that case, try tar zcf kmail.tar.gz /kmail/dir and put the tarball on the fat32 partition.  fat32 doesn't like, and won't preserve, your unix file permissions
[05:13] <sam_> no drivers needed
[05:13] <Octane> trappist: you are a genius, i didnt even think of that
[05:13] <Octane> duh
[05:14] <trappist> :)
[05:14] <Octane> i dont wanan preserve file permissions since this is for windows, so ill zip
[05:14] <ITSa341> Anyone here run AOL 8 or 9 in Ubuntu?
[05:14] <cafuego> I'm afraid you're going to need either sata, ide or scsi drivers to support that card.
[05:15] <trappist> ITSa341: not likely.  aol is not especially popular among linux folk.
[05:15] <sam_> it's chipless by design
[05:15] <sam_> i mean driverless
[05:15] <sam_> stoned
[05:15] <cafuego> sam_: That's the amrketing speak, yes.
[05:15] <nicholaspaul> I have a Q about Airport Extreme... I'm using a new Dapper install, and it recognises the Aiport, but doesnt connect. Should i use the bcm43xx ddrivers instead?
[05:15] <cafuego> sam_: But the kernel won't be chatting with it unless it knows how, which is what the driver does.
[05:15] <tman_ubuntu> Trying to figure out Java CLASSPATHS, can someone help?
[05:15] <cafuego> So mandriva would have the support built-in, i expect.
[05:16] <ITSa341> trappist:  I had the AOL linux version and it was fine for the 6 hours between leaking itand blocking it.
[05:16] <sam_> it emulate IDE drivers somehow
[05:16] <cafuego> sam_: Then it would emulate a SPECIFIC ide driver.
[05:17] <sam_> they have a fedora core 2 patch on their website
[05:17] <sam_> and instructs on how to rebuild the kernel
[05:17] <cafuego> So it DOERS in fact need drivers then?
[05:18] <sam_> no becuase there are no drivers for wonows or mac
[05:18] <NanoBCN> Hi people. A simple question. I want /var/www to poit to /media/work/www. What should I add to fstab?
[05:18] <cafuego> That just means they're built-in.
[05:19] <sam_> and like i said, worked on mandriva. maybe mandriva uses a newer kernel?
[05:19] <cafuego> NanoBCN: bind mount? Or just symlink it (or edit the apache cfg file)
[05:19] <cafuego> sam_: That's possible. Know which version?
[05:19] <trappist> sam_: maybe mandriva has the driver built into the kernel and ubuntu has it in a module, awaiting a modprobe
[05:19] <sam_> kernel for mandriva 2006?
[05:20] <vb_coder> god whats up
[05:20] <NanoBCN> cafuego, exactly, I don't want to edit the apache cfg, I think I want bind mount, shouldn't I do it via fstab?
[05:20] <cafuego> sam_: yeah. I use ubuntu, so I wouldn't know what mandriva uses.
[05:20] <god> not much
[05:20] <Xoritor> so why is the kernel compiled with 3.4 when the RELASE NOTES say  GCC 4.0.1
[05:20] <sam_> thats sounds likely. can i easlily get that mod probe kernel
[05:20] <cafuego> NanoBCN: /new/mountpint /old mountpoint bind 0 0
[05:20] <Xoritor> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyReleaseNotes#head-10960a6c7a74d476e99bfa6e7a8db8afb5a3f472
[05:20] <trappist> NanoBCN: get rid of /var/www and sudo ln -s /media/work/www /var/www
[05:21] <thugren> mandriva is just the mandrake with a different name to it
[05:21] <cafuego> thugren: Yes, a far more unfortunate name <heh>
[05:21] <NanoBCN> NanoBCN, you would recommend me to do so instead of mounting?
[05:21] <trappist> sam_: you would just have to identify the driver and say 'sudo modprobe drivername'
[05:21] <_jason> Xoritor, because it has gcc4.01?
[05:21] <NanoBCN> trappist, you would recommend me to do so instead of mounting?
[05:21] <thugren> cafuego is this so true.
[05:22] <Xoritor> _jason, then why is the kernel compiled with gcc 3.4?
[05:22] <cafuego> NanoBCN: You cna, but make sure that FollowSymlinks is then set in the apache cfg.
[05:22] <sam_> the driver from the raid card site?
[05:22] <trappist> NanoBCN: yeah, no kernel black magic is needed for a symlink.  it's just filesystem magic and uses no additional resources whatsoever.  not so with a mount.
[05:22] <_jason> Xoritor, I don't know the technical reasons for why they chose to compile it with 3.4
[05:22] <NanoBCN> trappist, ok, thanks a lot
[05:22] <thugren> cafuego, So have you try the mandriva?
[05:23] <Xoritor> i dont think its too much to ask for a disto to compile the kernel with the gcc they ship
[05:23] <cafuego> thugren: Nope
[05:23] <SatanLvsU2> anyone feel like helping me to install htop?
[05:23] <cafuego> Xoritor: gcc 4.0 didn't produce stable kernels.
[05:23] <trappist> Xoritor: I feel ya dog.  at least it's better than my last experience with debian, where they didn't even make *available* the gcc used to compile the shipped kernel.
[05:24] <trappist> Xoritor: ubuntu, happily, does.
[05:24] <Cythril> Where does Ubuntu install programs?
[05:24] <thugren> cafuego, I have downloaded it.. Just haven't wanted to install it
[05:24] <trappist> Cythril: all over the place
[05:24] <cafuego> Cythril: Usually into /usr/bin
[05:24] <Xoritor> trappist, then where/how do i get it?
[05:24] <trappist> Cythril: programs have many parts, and different parts have their standard locations
[05:24] <Cythril> Is there a find command or something?  I'm trying to install an XMMS skin.
[05:24] <trappist> Xoritor: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:24] <Xoritor> trappist, thx... ill give that a shot
[05:24] <nicholaspaul> Easy Q: can someone please remind me what i need to install to get 'make' working?
[05:25] <trappist> Cythril: you installed a package containing this skin?
[05:25] <timfrost> nicholaspaul, build-essential
[05:25] <trappist> nicholaspaul: build-essential
[05:25] <Cythril> I downloaded the skin from the internet.
[05:25] <cafuego> nicholaspaul: 'make' itself. if you wanted gcc to also work, maybe try 'build-essential'.
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> timfrost: trappist Great - thanks guys!
[05:25] <nicholaspaul> cafuego: cheers!
[05:25] <trappist> Cythril: then ubuntu didn't put it anywhere.  you just need to find where you downloaded it to
[05:25] <MrDez> cythril: just copy the skin to /home/username/.xmms/Skins/skinname/folder/skin.zip
[05:25] <Cythril> Alright, thanks.
[05:26] <sam_> anymore ideas on configuring this raid card to work with ubuntu
[05:26] <MrDez> sam: motherboard onboard raid?
[05:26] <SatanLvsU2> has anyone here used or installed htop?
[05:26] <trappist> sam_: I bet google knows a thing or two about it.  it's probably just a matter of identifying the driver and modprobing it.
[05:27] <sam_> pci xfx revo64
[05:27] <trappist> sam_: I'm not google
[05:27] <sam_> i didn't say you were
[05:27] <SatanLvsU2> nm, it's a package now it seems.
[05:28] <sam_> where do i a driver from
[05:28] <sam_> and how do i modprobe it
[05:28] <skon> anyone konw what the /srv folder is for?
[05:28] <trappist> sam_: step 1) identify the driver.  google can probably help with that.  step 2) sudo modprobe drivername
[05:28] <sam_> the company does have a patch for the fedore 2 kernel
[05:29] <sam_> the card is driverless
[05:29] <sam_> it
[05:29] <sam_> it'a hardware raid
[05:29] <bluefoxicy> oh god
[05:29] <trappist> sam_: even hardware raid cards require drivers.  ask google which one this card needs.
[05:29] <bluefoxicy> this so belongs in the fortunes file
[05:30] <bluefoxicy> "I just build things.  I don't make assesments and promises."  -- Theo de Raadt
[05:30] <Xenguy> smith will suffice =)
[05:30] <MrDez> sam: im reading some info on it
[05:32] <sam_> it's made by netcell
[05:32] <sam_> they don't have drivers on there site
[05:33] <mwill> I've got apache running on my Ubuntu laptop, with my router forwarding port 80 to its ip. I've got all the security on my router off, and nobody outside my router is getting to my webserver. Ideas?
[05:33] <mwill> I cant find any refernce to incoming/blocked IPs in either my router's logs or apache's logs.
[05:34] <trappist> sam_: they do, in the form of a patch
[05:34] <MrDez> sam: http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1516471&Tab=11&NoMapp=0
[05:34] <MrDez> see customer reviews
[05:34] <MrDez> someone got it working with SuSE linux, using kernel  2.6.13.15
[05:35] <sam_> i got it working on mandriav 2006
[05:35] <MrDez> ya u just need to change your kernel
[05:35] <trappist> sam_: the drivers are built into kernel 2.6.12 and up.  breezy's kernel isn't *really* 2.6.12.  so you need to either patch and rebuild, or upgrade your kernel, possibly from a dapper repository.
[05:35] <trappist> sam_: google told me all this, and would have told you, if you'd asked.
[05:36] <Xenguy> smith will suffice =)
[05:36] <trappist> Xenguy: stfu.
[05:36] <Xenguy> trappist: oh my
[05:36] <MrDez> trapp: exactly, jsut the card name and 'linux driver' took me less than a minute
[05:37] <sam_> wow, i've battling with this for a 2 days
[05:37] <MrDez> ew, that xfx raid card is an ata100 raid card with an sata bridge built onto it
[05:38] <sam_> i updated to kernel 2.6.12 and didn't work
[05:38] <MrDez> sam: use 2.6.13.x
[05:38] <Noundi> I'm trying to install 5.10 but I keep getting stuck on the grub install, even though it has worked before.
[05:38] <MrDez> it obviously works that .13.x
[05:38] <slashx1896> hey all
[05:38] <sam_> where can i find that kernel
[05:39] <MrDez> noundi: could be a drive mbr problem
[05:39] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[05:39] <majd> *command
[05:39] <MrDez> sam: use google
[05:39] <Noundi> Mr-Falkor: MrDez, yeah it could be but I can install lilo.
[05:39] <Noundi> Whoops
[05:40] <Xoritor> trappist, thank you... that worked great
[05:40] <MrDez> noundi: weird, ive had problems in the past with grub but never with ub 5.10
[05:40] <MrDez> unless it was a problem with the drive
[05:40] <MrDez> is it at least a 20gig drive?
[05:40] <Noundi> 120gig
[05:40] <W3BMAST3R101> Yo. Could some one tell me how i can move all of my local packages into the apt-proxy directory / database?
[05:40] <Noundi> MrDez: I have no problems installing slack with lilo.
[05:41] <MrDez> ever had winXP or win2k server on it?
[05:41] <trappist> Noundi: what filesystem is the partition with /boot
[05:41] <Noundi> ext3
[05:41] <Noundi> MrDez: Yes, a long time ago.
[05:41] <MrDez> try wiping it out using qtparted (if its a wipable drive)
[05:41] <trappist> Noundi: never had that problem with ext3, but it happens to me with xfs
[05:41] <sam_> i can't seem to find a repository for that kernel?
[05:42] <slashx1896> normmally i have a wireless conection on my computer thats running ubuntu.. but now i need to make a direct connection since my router fried.. only 1 computer can have internet right now.. which is the laptop but i wanna make adirect connection my unbutu computer so i can have internet there
[05:42] <slashx1896> so can someone help me on making a direct connection?
[05:43] <slashx1896> i have the wireless conection set up.. but my router fried so i need to make a direct
[05:43] <trappist> sam_: there is no breezy repository for the kernel you need.  you need a dapper kernel, or you can roll your own.
[05:43] <trappist> slashx1896: what do you mean by direct
[05:43] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[05:43] <slashx1896> modem to computer
[05:43] <majd> *command
[05:43] <Noundi> MrDez: Alright, I think UBCD has qparted, I'll boot with it and try it.
[05:44] <MrDez> ah
[05:44] <MrDez> ubcd has dos based drive wipers too
[05:44] <poningru> majd: what do you mean?
[05:44] <MrDez> cant remember which menu its under, but it has an mbr wiper which is what u probably need
[05:44] <sam_> so i download the kernel and do what with it?
[05:44] <poningru> just sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www
[05:44] <slashx1896> trappist: normmaly i have modem to router an router to computer wirelessly, but now i wanna make a connection on my computer so i can connect through moden to computer..
[05:44] <majd> poningru,  i just installed php and i can't paste stuff in
[05:44] <majd> ok i'll try
[05:44] <MrDez> sam: look thru the wiki for kernel upgrade hotwo
[05:44] <MrDez> howto
[05:44] <slashx1896> i hooked up all the cords but i couldnt get on the internet
[05:45] <Noundi> MrDez: Yeah I did a fdisk /mbr with it just to get rid of lilo, but it still didn't work, I'll try qparted.
[05:45] <MrDez> fdisk /mbr didnt kill lilo?
[05:45] <Noundi> It did
[05:45] <trappist> slashx1896: to *what* computer.  I still don't know what you're trying to accomplish.
[05:45] <Noundi> But grub still get's stuck
[05:45] <MrDez> ah
[05:45] <slashx1896> ok
[05:45] <Noundi> Thing is, I think it gets stuck on the install.
[05:45] <MrDez> strange
[05:45] <Noundi> Not on the mbr writing.
[05:45] <poningru> slashx1896: what protocol does your modem use?
[05:45] <MrDez> thats always frustrating
[05:45] <poningru> to communicate with your router
[05:46] <MrDez> just kill the whole drive with qtparted and start fresh with the 5.10 install
[05:46] <Xoritor> ok, next
[05:46] <Noundi> Yup, I'll try that.
[05:46] <slashx1896> trappist: i have 2 computers. 1 a desktop and 2 a laptop... the desktop is runing unbuntu and the lap is runnign windows
[05:46] <MrDez> are u using server only install or full?
[05:46] <Noundi> Full
[05:46] <slashx1896> poningru, my router fried so rite now i dont have a router
[05:46] <Xoritor> how do i add another session into gdm (enligtenment) in this case
[05:46] <poningru> slashx1896: I know but what does it usually use?
[05:46] <slashx1896> trappist: when i hooked up my modem to my computer so i can have internet on ubuntu it wouldnt let me on the internet..
[05:46] <MrDez> only other thing id suggest is writing another disc, perhaps a problem wiht the grub files written to disc
[05:46] <slashx1896> poningru, not sure
[05:47] <poningru> slashx1896: the most common thing to do is just plug it in to your modem and restart the computer
[05:47] <Noundi> MrDez: yeah I was kind of hoping to get it working on this drive.
[05:47] <slashx1896> tried it
[05:47] <MrDez> i installed ubuntu on an old damaged drive for someone earlier tonight and didnt have trouble even with the bad drive (luck)
[05:47] <_jason> Xoritor, system tools -> new login in standard gnome, I think it would be the same for enlightment?
[05:47] <MrDez> noundi: i mean writing another ub install cd
[05:47] <slashx1896> what i found out was undernetworking its reading my ip address as my routers ip. not the computers ip
[05:47] <sam_> searched for "update kernel" on wiki and found nothing
[05:47] <Noundi> MrDez did that too, have 2 different.
[05:47] <poningru> slashx1896: then turn off your modem do the same to your comp wait for like 15 mins and restart both
[05:48] <MrDez> sonofa...
[05:48] <poningru> slashx1896: that should be enough
[05:48] <MrDez> heh
[05:48] <MrDez> grub is being bastardly then
[05:48] <poningru> sam_: what are you trying to do?
[05:48] <slashx1896> when i go to system>admin>networking>hosts> thats what it says
[05:48] <MrDez> qtparted should do it
[05:48] <slashx1896> poningru: i tryed it didnt work
[05:48] <Noundi> MrDez: Probably, I'll try it, wish me luck.
[05:48] <slashx1896> its trying to connect with my routers ip i think.
[05:48] <poningru> slashx1896: what is? your computer or your modem?
[05:49] <MrDez> good luck
[05:49] <Xoritor> _jason, no... i dont want to switch or login again, i want to add a "session" to gdm so i can select englightenment instead of gnome
[05:49] <slashx1896> computer
[05:49] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why everytime I reboot to Windblows my clock is in the wrong time?
[05:49] <poningru> oh
[05:49] <DAaaMan64> has anyone used the instlux to install ubuntu? I don't know how to use it!  It makes not sense, you install it then it prompts a restart, do it and then it wants to uninstall itself.
[05:49] <DAaaMan64> My laptop won't boot the ubuntu cd
[05:49] <Crewz> slashx1896, some cable modems, need a reset to forget MAC address from previous routers or previous nic cards connected to em, or simply unplugging it for 30 minutes, will reset it
[05:49] <trappist> phiber-optic: linux is probably syncing your hardware clock to the system time
[05:49] <MrDez> slash: first, never wait 15 mins, what 3-5 mins at most, 15 mins is what ISP tech support tells u to get u off the phone. ;)
[05:50] <phiber-optic> yeah I think is that
[05:50] <slashx1896> crewz, tryed
[05:50] <phiber-optic> how can I change that?
[05:50] <slashx1896> under networking what connection do ii use when im directly connected cable-modem-computer, ethernet connection?
[05:50] <poningru> MrDez: hehe so true
[05:51] <poningru> MrDez: but the sad thing is many people hear 15 mins and wait 5 mins
[05:51] <MrDez> slash: open terminal and type 'sudo pico /etc/network/interfaces' and find the line that starts iface eth0 and paste it
[05:51] <poningru> they hear 5 mins and wait like 1 min
[05:51] <_jason> Xoritor, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=97199&highlight=enlightment
[05:51] <MrDez> poning: ive worked for AOL and local ISPs, so I definitely know the drill ;)
[05:51] <DAaaMan64> damn, I guess I will just give up.  Stupid thing.
[05:51] <phiber-optic> trappis do you know how can I change it?
[05:52] <slashx1896> mrdez, k
[05:52] <poningru> DAaaMan64: whats wrong?
[05:52] <poningru> oh
[05:52] <DAaaMan64> the unbuntu or kubuntu cd will not work
[05:52] <thugren> hey will I am off later erveryone
[05:52] <trappist> phiber-optic: sudo update-rc.d -f hwclock.sh remove
[05:52] <poningru> do other cds boot?
[05:52] <Xoritor> _jason, thank you that gives me what i need
[05:52] <DAaaMan64> when it boots, then I press enter, nother happens.
[05:52] <phiber-optic> thanx trappist
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> suse will isntall but it doesn't run right.
[05:53] <_jason> Xoritor, np
[05:53] <MrDez> slas: didnt finish line, 'paste it to chan'
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> mepis will install but doesn't have very good support yet.
[05:53] <slashx1896> mrdez, iface eth0 inet dhcp
[05:53] <slashx1896> ?
[05:53] <slashx1896> that?
[05:53] <MrDez> well then
[05:53] <MrDez> ur configured for dhcp
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> and it seems like apt doesn't work well on mepis.
[05:53] <MrDez> restart router
[05:53] <slashx1896> u mean modem?.
[05:53] <slashx1896> i dont have a router
[05:53] <MrDez> er
[05:53] <DAaaMan64> so i wan't kubuntu or ubuntu but it isn't happening.
[05:53] <MrDez> ah
[05:53] <phiber-optic> trappist what if I want to have it back?
[05:53] <slashx1896> myne fried..
[05:53] <interfear> hi all.. anyone here running 5.10 w/ a 6600gt pcie?
[05:53] <MrDez> what kind of modem
[05:53] <MrDez> speedstream?
[05:54] <trappist> phiber-optic: man update-rc.d
[05:54] <slashx1896> no
[05:54] <slashx1896> mottrolla from comcast
[05:54] <MrDez> ah
[05:54] <MrDez> uh
[05:54] <MrDez> hmm
[05:54] <phiber-optic> I would type man update-rc.d??
[05:54] <MrDez> i have comcast too
[05:54] <MrDez> motorola with one LAN port?
[05:54] <Zatoichi> aynone got cups to work on breezy. I can't login, and Sys->Admin->Printing crashes.
[05:54] <slashx1896> with 1 ethernet port
[05:54] <trappist> phiber-optic: yes, and that would display the documentation for update-rc.d, which will tell you how to get it back
[05:54] <poningru> DAaaMan64: what do you mean it doesnt do anything?
[05:54] <MrDez> hooked directly to ur ubuntu box?
[05:54] <poningru> as in just sits there?
[05:55] <slashx1896> right now no
[05:55] <slashx1896> its hooked to my laptop
[05:55] <DAaaMan64> poningru, upon hitting enter it just hangs and it just sits there.
[05:55] <phiber-optic> thanx
[05:55] <DAaaMan64> it stupid
[05:55] <MrDez> so u have no router or switch hooked into the motorola, just one machine at a time?
[05:55] <Xenguy> !u
[05:55] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[05:55] <DAaaMan64> I figured it was the burn but I tried both ubuntu and kubuntu with same result.
[05:55] <MrDez> !yourmom
[05:55] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, MrDez
[05:55] <slashx1896> if i hook it to my ubuntu box, i still ccant get internet on ubuntu.. i have it all hookedup andconnected but it says google can not be found or w/e
[05:56] <slashx1896> mrdez, yeah
[05:56] <slashx1896> my router fried and i dont get a new one for a week. so i want internet on my ubuntu system without a router
[05:56] <Vashypooh> have you checked Apps > System Tools > Network Tools?
[05:56] <Vashypooh> see if comcasts DHCP is working?
[05:56] <slashx1896> what do u want me to check there
[05:56] <DAaaMan64> any ideas poningru??
[05:57] <Vashypooh> whats with all the PuMpErNi1kLe
[05:57] <poningru> DAaaMan64: you sure you got the correct architecture?
[05:57] <DAaaMan64> I am probably screwed, I tried intlux but it doesn't make any sense, I don't know how use the software.
[05:57] <poningru> like are you trying to load x86 on a mac?
[05:57] <slashx1896> the ethernet connection is, enabled and configuration : DHCP
[05:57] <poningru> or a mac cd on a x86?
[05:57] <DAaaMan64> yeah it is right,
[05:57] <Vashypooh> But Ubuntu isnt seeing it?
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> it says i386 in the files on the cd anyway.
[05:58] <poningru> DAaaMan64: I dont know what to tell you dude
[05:58] <poningru> right
[05:58] <poningru> what proc do you have?
[05:58] <Steil> anyone have any luck getting the bcm43xx drivers to work?
[05:58] <poningru> like what kind of computer
[05:58] <slashx1896> not sure when i connect the ethernet cable from my modem to my ubuntu box and try to go on the internet it says <webpage> can not be fond
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> p4 3.06
[05:58] <Linfanguin> how to enable java on firefox? im trying to watch the new intel ad
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> gateway m675
[05:58] <johndarkhorse> Steil: yes, quite a few folks have
[05:58] <poningru> DAaaMan64: hold on
[05:58] <friendofface> how do i install a 5port usb pci card in ubuntu?
[05:58] <DAaaMan64> nice laptop but has been real mean to linux.
[05:58] <Steil> hmm
[05:59] <Steil> guess I'm unlucky, my system hardlocks when trying to use it
[05:59] <DShepherd> ubotu tell Linfanguin about java
[05:59] <MrDez> slash: one sec
[05:59] <parisi> My god, Dapper is quite speedy on my old 1.7 Intel.
[06:00] <friendofface> prolly just need jre
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: nice
[06:00] <slashx1896> vashypooh, system>admin>networking>hosts> has IP = my routers ip
[06:00] <Parisi> It beats 5.10 all the way!
[06:00] <slashx1896> mrdez, k
[06:00] <Parisi> Its so responsive i am not joking.
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: any other changes you would like to tell about?
[06:00] <MrDez> slash: try connecting the box and ping 64.233.187.99 (a google.com ip)
[06:00] <slashx1896> my old routers ip* the one that fried
[06:00] <DShepherd> parisi: nice!!
[06:00] <Parisi> Its actually more responsive then this same box running XP
[06:00] <Parisi> And thats says quite alot.
[06:00] <slashx1896> mrdez, ok imn gonna get disconnected here
[06:00] <slashx1896> but il be back
[06:01] <Parisi> gnome just feels so much lighter.
[06:01] <MrDez> if thats successful, its dns server settings from dhcp (i wasnt getting dns from dhcp to my router for a while here)
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: triple nice!!
[06:01] <poningru> DAaaMan64: I dont know what to tell you dude
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: nice nice nice!!
[06:01] <poningru> sorry
[06:01] <MrDez> also
[06:01] <Parisi> I have installed a heavy OSX skin on it, still feels quite fast.
[06:01] <interfear> Parisi: what dist u running?
[06:01] <MrDez> u can try setting ur primary dns to 4.2.2.2
[06:01] <Parisi> It boots faster as well, programs load faster, window redraw is faster.
[06:01] <DAaaMan64> this just pisses me off,
[06:01] <MrDez> nice and easy to remember
[06:01] <DShepherd> parisi: I am running out of nices
[06:01] <poningru> DAaaMan64: yeah sorry dude
[06:01] <DAaaMan64> thanks
[06:02] <killerbird> Hey, i'm running ubuntu on an amd64, and I want to install the 32 bit libraries so i can install stuff like wine anyone know how to do that ?
[06:02] <slashx1896> mrdez, alrite so just connect the cord to my unbutu box, open up termiknal and ttype ping 64.233.187.99
[06:02] <Parisi> And so far stable, not bad for a beta release.
[06:02] <DShepherd> parisi: dapper is indeed dapper
[06:02] <Parisi> I am running Flight 2
[06:02] <MrDez> yes, if its successful, enter the network configuration and change the dns to specify 4.2.2.2 and then try ping google.com
[06:02] <slashx1896> and if its sucsessfull get on irc on my unbntu system if its not get back on my altop
[06:02] <DShepherd> parisi: kool
[06:02] <Parisi> I would def be sticking with it for a while if i did not need to sync my Axim with XP.
[06:02] <MrDez> if not successful reconnect laptop
[06:02] <slashx1896> laptop*
[06:02] <slashx1896> kk
[06:02] <slashx1896> brb
[06:03] <Parisi> This is going to be a kick ass desktop OS, i can already tell.
[06:03] <DShepherd> parisi: hardware detection, how's that
[06:03] <interfear> does flight 2 autoinstall madwifi drivers?
[06:03] <MrDez> parisi: is the axim windows based?
[06:03] <Parisi> It is really responsive, something that always kept me from going back to windows, its as responsive as XP if not faster.
[06:04] <Parisi> MrDez, it runs Windows Mobile 2003SE, so yes.
[06:04] <MrDez> just install opie on it
[06:04] <MrDez> then u have nix goodness all around
[06:04] <interfear> are most ppl here using 5.10?
[06:04] <Vashypooh> I am atm
[06:04] <Parisi> DShepherd, It reconized my HD, but i have some standard stuff.
[06:04] <MrDez> and much better non-commercial waste-of-money apps
[06:04] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[06:04] <majd> *command
[06:04] <Parisi> It also has better Wireless support so i heard.
[06:04] <Linfanguin> i am using ubuntu eagle edition
[06:04] <Linfanguin> it rocks
[06:04] <majd> sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www <<didn't work
[06:04] <DShepherd> interfear: I am.. plan to go dapper in feb
[06:04] <Parisi> HD = HW
[06:05] <ryan__> where can i find a ppc ubuntu port of pcsx
[06:05] <Parisi> MrDez,  I would love to run a nix flavor on my pocket, but i dont even think the Axim x50v will run it.
[06:05] <slashx> Mrdez, when i pigned the ip it said, connect: Netowkr is unreachable
[06:05] <interfear> DShepherd: is that when dapper is official.. in feb?
[06:06] <Xoritor> goodness i had forgotten how extrememly aweful e16 brushed metal theme looked
[06:06] <Parisi> interfear, I believe its scheduled for April 27th
[06:06] <Eleaf> llol
[06:06] <majd> what was the sudo comman to be able to copy files to var/www/ ?
[06:06] <majd> *command
[06:06] <majd> sudo cp /blah/blah /var/www <<didn't work
[06:06] <Eleaf> why not?
[06:06] <Eleaf> cp -r?
[06:06] <Xoritor> -r is recursive
[06:06] <Xoritor> -a is recursive and preserves perms
[06:07] <Xenguy> majd: didn't work means nothing -- define "didn't work"; was there an error?
[06:07] <DShepherd> interfear: april
[06:07] <poningru> can you chmod 000 something?
[06:07] <Xoritor> sudo cp -a /path/to/dir /var/www
[06:07] <timfrost> slashx, you may need a cross-over cable
[06:07] <ryan__> where's there a site that has PPC linux emu ports
[06:07] <Xoritor> or maybe you want
[06:07] <slashx> whats that mean
[06:07] <Xoritor> cp /path/to/dir/* /var/www
[06:07] <MrDez> slash: did u connect the cable directly to the ubuntu box?
[06:07] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo cp /var/www
[06:07] <majd> cp: missing destination file
[06:07] <Xoritor> that would get the files in the dir not the dir itself
[06:07] <slashx> mrdez, yes
[06:07] <ali4728> Hlep! Hey guys does any one know why I get this "ERROR 2013: Lost connection to MySQ" error? Thanks
[06:07] <Parisi> Every Ubuntu release seems to improve over the previous, and thats good, Mark seems like a reasonable guy.
[06:07] <poningru> majd: you didnt say what you want to copy
[06:08] <Xoritor> if there are subdirs you will have to use either the -r or the -a
[06:08] <Vashypooh> I wouldn't think he would need to use a crossover cable, i think a patch should work just from modem to pc
[06:08] <poningru> majd: what do you want to copy to /var/www?
[06:08] <Parisi> I have given up on Mandrake and Fedora long ago, and Suse was never that good to begin with.
[06:08] <majd> ./cdrom1/cip/ to /var/www/
[06:08] <majd> i hated mandrake
[06:08] <DShepherd> wats next for ubuntu after dapper.?
[06:08] <Vashypooh> ubuntu is my first so far
[06:08] <krystoff> hi there please is someone can give me the url for the sources.list please ?
[06:09] <MrDez> ok when its connected, open terminal, type su (enter, enter root passwd, this way u dont have to keep doing sudo on commands), type 'ifdown eth0'  then type 'ifup eth0' then type ifconfig and make sure u have an internet routable (or NAT'ed) ip address
[06:09] <DShepherd> Vashypooh: same here
[06:09] <poningru> majd: then go sudo cp ./cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:09] <killerbird> ubuntu is the first i've ever managed to install correctly :/
[06:09] <Vashypooh> I just got everything working correctly today
[06:09] <interfear> how do you mount the cdrom in ubuntu
[06:09] <poningru> !sources
[06:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:09] <interfear> mount /dev/cdrom ?
[06:09] <krystoff> thx poningru
[06:09] <MrDez> or u could just reboot if u dont mind being disconnected very long
[06:09] <poningru> yep
[06:09] <MrDez> that will renew dhcp properly as well (sometimes the X based tools are fidgety)
[06:10] <Vashypooh> I managed to get all ATI drivers and stuff installed
[06:10] <poningru> interfear: well you have to specifiy a mount point
[06:10] <Parisi> brb, time to boot back to XP
[06:10] <majd> poningru, then go sudo cp ./cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:10] <majd> oops
[06:10] <Vashypooh> managed to get Starcraft to work under Wine and Cedega
[06:10] <majd> hold on
[06:10] <majd> cp: cannot stat `./cdrom1/cip': No such file or directory
[06:10] <majd> ther
[06:10] <slashx> Mrdez, what do u reccomnd i do? reboot or ifdown eth0 , ifup eth0
[06:10] <interfear> poningru: so like mount /dev/cdrom /cdrom?
[06:10] <majd> *there
[06:10] <krystoff> oups i can't su
[06:10] <majd> i also tried it w/o the dot
[06:10] <Vashypooh> I got some bugs to take out tho ;/ im Having audio issues
[06:10] <DShepherd> interfear: mount -t iso9660 /dev/hd** /mnt/dir <-- try that
[06:10] <interfear> dammit i want to go to the vending machines but i only have a 5$ bill
[06:10] <interfear> do vending machines take 5's?
[06:10] <interfear> like candy machines
[06:10] <Vashypooh> lol no Inter
[06:11] <interfear> dam
[06:11] <poningru> interfear: you could do that but try mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[06:11] <interfear> ok will do
[06:11] <MrDez> only the ones with sandwhiches in them
[06:11] <poningru> interfear: it should have auto mounted
[06:11] <interfear> thats what i figure
[06:11] <krystoff> excuse me ... a little tired tonight
[06:11] <poningru> majd: hmm
[06:11] <MrDez> slash: reboot is the easiest
[06:11] <slashx> ok
[06:11] <MrDez> in case something goes awry
[06:11] <slashx> so what do u want me to do
[06:11] <DShepherd> interfear:  /dev/cdrom =  /dev/hd*
[06:11] <MrDez> if ur linux noob in general
[06:11] <slashx> reboot while connected to the unbut box
[06:11] <Vashypooh> I also have a problem restarting my PC
[06:11] <Vashypooh> When i try to restart my PC, X crashes
[06:11] <slashx> im not 100% noob but i only know a lil bit about linux..
[06:11] <majd> someone posted some code 3 days ago and it worked fine
[06:11] <luisito> hi guys!!
[06:12] <majd> but i didn't save it
[06:12] <poningru> majd: doh my mistake
[06:12] <MrDez> reboot, open term, sudo ifconfig, make sure it gives you an ip (and not a 169.x.x.x or 0.0.0.0) for eth0 interface
[06:12] <MrDez> then trying pinging ip
[06:12] <poningru> majd: sudo cp cdrom1/cip /var/www
[06:12] <slashx> and reboot while connected to the unbut boc
[06:12] <slashx> ubuntu
[06:12] <luisito> hey people, I'm making a theme I'm sure most of you will really love. :))
[06:13] <Vashypooh> for anyone just new to Ubuntu i really recomend Automatix from a fresh install
[06:13] <cycom> Vashypooh: wth is Automatix?
[06:13] <slashx> alrite brb all...
[06:13] <luisito> !automatix
[06:13] <ubotu> rumour has it, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:13] <Vashypooh> its on the ubuntu forums
[06:13] <majd> poningru, same error
[06:13] <Vashypooh> lemme get you a link
[06:13] <Xenguy> niiiice
[06:13] <DShepherd> can anyone tell me whats ubuntu's plan after dapper is released? what's the next big thing
[06:13] <Vashypooh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[06:13] <poningru> cycom: use !easyubuntu
[06:14] <poningru> !easyubuntu
[06:14] <ubotu> poningru: Not a clue
[06:14] <poningru> wtf
[06:14] <poningru> !easybuntu
[06:14] <ubotu> poningru: I don't know, could you explain it?
[06:14] <ntumba> Hi all, I was wondering if anyone could help me. I have a sudo problem. I spent the past 4 hours trying to fix
[06:14] <Vashypooh> Its real nice actually, i just ran it
[06:14] <Vashypooh> Installs all the basic stuff you would want from it
[06:15] <poningru> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=64629
[06:15] <bimberi> !easyubuntu
[06:15] <ubotu> I guess easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[06:15] <poningru> cycom: use that
[06:15] <Zatoichi> Anyone sucessfully configured cups?
[06:15] <MrDez> zatoic: ive successfully let apt-get configure it and fu for me ;)
[06:16] <johndarkhorse> poningru: for the patient, there will be a usable totally new version of easyubuntu within 2 weeks (or so i've been told)
[06:16] <interfear> i think ubuntu is the most popular dist right now?
[06:17] <lysis> ok
[06:17] <Vashypooh> Automatix is better than Easy Ubuntu i think
[06:17] <poningru> Vashypooh: please do not use automatix
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> Automatix?
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> oh... its not good?!
[06:17] <lysis> i was asking earlier how to add drop shadows to gnome (even though it is not recommended)   somebody said to look something up.   could somebody offer that advice again?
[06:17] <Vashypooh> whu
[06:17] <Vashypooh> why
[06:17] <poningru> it can be security hazard for some people
[06:17] <lysis> i'm told automatix causes problems and it shouldn't be recommended in the chat.
[06:17] <poningru> !automatix
[06:17] <ubotu> [automatix]  messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:17] <cycom> ...what could automatix and easybuntu install?
[06:18] <Vashypooh> Seems to work fine for me
[06:18] <interfear> should i install dapper or 5.10?
[06:18] <cycom> Vashypooh: what the hell does it install?
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> Hey
[06:18] <Zatoichi> MrDez, what do you mean? apt-get configured it for you?
[06:18] <poningru> cycom: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[06:18] <cycom> interfear: what is the system used for
[06:18] <Vashypooh> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=80295
[06:18] <interfear> cycom: just my home desktop
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> Does anyone know how to set up a shell account that locks into one folder and makes it a persons home
[06:18] <cycom> poningru: I'm in console mode on a gentoo install, can you please just give me a basic rundown?
[06:18] <lysis> cycom, it installs restricted formats, and sets up things that could possibly take up a whole 20 minutes of your valuable time.
[06:18] <DragonOutlaw> so they can't access the rest of the server
[06:18] <DShepherd> interfear: 5.10 is stable.. dapper is in theory not
[06:19] <interfear> DShepherd: hrm.. ok.. what r u running?
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: do you have another computer which you primarily use?
[06:19] <Zatoichi> I can't even login using the web interface.
[06:19] <interfear> cycom: no this is my primary pc
[06:19] <DShepherd> interfear: 5.10
[06:19] <interfear> ok
[06:19] <DragonOutlaw> anyone? =(
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: I hate to say it, but I'd go for 5.10
[06:19] <cycom> interfear: yeah.  Dapper just ain't there yet.
[06:19] <interfear> yeh ill wait for the official dapper..
[06:19] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: ping
[06:19] <poningru> cycom: oh sorry
[06:19] <Xenguy> DragonOutlaw: that sounds like a 'chroot' jail
[06:20] <moodsoft> hi all, I'm curious has anyone ever gotten Samba to work under Ubuntu? I've put it on 2 computers, and on both of them they say its working but no clients can see it
[06:20] <DragonOutlaw> yes
[06:20] <interfear> i hope the 32bit install program doesnt crash on me.. the 64bit version did
[06:20] <interfear> lets cross our fingers
[06:20] <poningru> cycom: its not for you then, its just for autoinstallation of java, some codecs, ms fonts etc.
[06:20] <Xenguy> DragonOutlaw: I haven't tried it myself
[06:20] <cycom> poningru: :) what, just because I'm installing gentoo?
[06:20] <poningru> cycom: its basically for noobs who want an easy method of installing things that are not so free/legal
[06:20] <interfear> dammit nobody has change for a 5 in the dorms and i want to hit the vending machines
[06:21] <poningru> interfear: where do you live?
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: uh...k
[06:21] <interfear> i go to the culinary institute of america in ny
[06:21] <poningru> culinary?
[06:21] <interfear> yeh
[06:21] <poningru> ah
[06:21] <poningru> ic
[06:21] <z0rz> How do I get the flash plugin for FF?
[06:21] <DShepherd> poningru: well noob or not.. its automated.. and I like that.. saves me time
[06:21] <poningru> UF here
[06:21] <poningru> DShepherd: true
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: you're in NY. go out on the street and find someone with a 5.
[06:21] <poningru> noob isnt an insult
[06:21] <cycom> interfear: change for a 5*
[06:21] <poningru> I consider myself to be a noob
[06:21] <moodsoft> interfear, wow, you must be good. I heard that's the hardest school to get into
[06:21] <MrDez> UF?
[06:22] <vbgunz> is there a way to make KDE apps look native to Gnome?
[06:22] <poningru> uni of Florida
[06:22] <MrDez> as in gators?
[06:22] <poningru> yeah
[06:22] <MrDez> congratulations, ur smart
[06:22] <MrDez> ;)
[06:22] <interfear> moodsoft: its the best culinary school.. and no you dont have to be good at all to get in here..
[06:22] <sslashx> mrdez, :\
[06:22] <Noundi> MrDez: Nope
[06:22] <interfear> there are idiots here who cant even hold a knife properly
[06:22] <MrDez> sslash: no ip?
[06:22] <SlashX1896> nope
[06:22] <poningru> hehe thanks
[06:22] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[06:22] <ubotu> rumour has it, offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:22] <Noundi> MrDez: I reset the the table and the mbr, still gets stuck at grub install.
[06:22] <interfear> sry
[06:22] <MrDez> noundi: fack.
[06:23] <Noundi> MrDez Yup
[06:23] <cycom> interfear: that's ok.  They won't be able to serve food forever if that's the case.  They're going to be missing too many fingers.
[06:23] <z0rz> How do I get the flash plugin for FF?
[06:23] <moodsoft> I suppose since I got no response about Samba, then no one has ever gotten Samba to work?
[06:23] <SlashX1896> when i did sudo ifconfig, i had eth0 and lo, eth0 had a whole bunch of stuff... but no ip
[06:23] <interfear> cycom: :)
[06:23] <MrDez> really?
[06:23] <SlashX1896> ya
[06:23] <cycom> interfear: I'm no cook, but I still have managed to not slice myself since I was about 8.
[06:24] <MrDez> sslash: should normally be 2nd line and read like "inet addr:10.0.0.100  Bcast:10.0.0.255  Mask:255.255.255.0"
[06:24] <poningru> !tell z0rz about flash
[06:24] <interfear> cycom: nice.. as long as you know how to hold the knife and the food.. you can cut pretty fast .. its not that difficult once you get used to it.. most ppl just dont know that
[06:25] <moodsoft> Going by what I've been told, if interfear is in the head chef classes, when he leaves he'll be able to start off at a 4 class restaurant, instead of the diner down the street
[06:25] <poningru> z0rz: look through that page for flash
[06:25] <Xenguy> z0rz: apt-get search flash |grep -i plug
[06:25] <interfear> moodsoft: lol yeh.. ive already worked in a 4 star place
[06:25] <SlashX1896> mrdez, eth0 had something like that.. but lo had that exactly
[06:25] <interfear> moodsoft: im prolly gonna go work in vegas.. they pay alot
[06:25] <vskye> moodsoft - check on the archives of ubuntu for more info. It works fine, just haven't done it myself.
[06:25] <MrDez> otherwise no dhcp coming thru, is this a fresh 5.10 install with no firewall/misc network apps installed yet?
[06:25] <cycom> interfear: don't you just have your thumb against the flat of the blade and make sure the knife doesn't leave it or something? never had to cut a cucumber or anything.
[06:26] <poningru> !automatrix
[06:26] <ubotu> Not a clue, poningru
[06:26] <poningru> !automatix
[06:26] <ubotu> I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:26] <danielmccauley> slash r u on ppc?
[06:26] <Xenguy> z0rz: apt-cache search flash |grep -i plug
[06:26] <SlashX1896> i dont think so
[06:26] <interfear> cycom: well you wanna hold the knife up at the top of the grip.. pinching it inbetween your index,middle.. and thumb
[06:26] <SlashX1896> mrdez, i got an ip under the lo interface
[06:26] <interfear> http://www.chefdepot.net/graphics40/holding_knife.jpg
[06:26] <danielmccauley> what is the lo interface?
[06:27] <SlashX1896> but the eth0 had inet8: some stuff like xxx:x::xxx:xxx:xxx:xxxx or w/e
[06:27] <johndarkhorse> interfear: cycom: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[06:27] <Crazy_Man> svideo connection flickers at tty and goes away when entering X...any reason?
[06:27] <cycom> interfear: console mode, remember ;)
[06:27] <killerbird> anyone know how i can get some codecs for video playback keeping in mind im on a 64 bit machine
[06:27] <interfear> johndarkhorse: k sry man. ended
[06:27] <interfear> yeh
[06:27] <cycom> johndarkhorse: awright then
[06:27] <SlashX1896> lo is local loopback and it had an ipo and mask
[06:27] <cycom> interfear: what runs on the machine now?
[06:27] <Xenguy> z0rz: nm, that doesn't work, hrm
[06:27] <interfear> cycom: xp64
[06:27] <majd> how do i access my cdrom drive?
[06:27] <majd> just /cdrom1/ right?
[06:28] <DShepherd> killerbird: i think 32bit apps work fine on 64bits architecture
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: ick.
[06:28] <majd> oh, there's media/ before
[06:28] <poningru> majd: no its usually /media/hdc
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: and it is your ONLY machine?
[06:28] <MrDez> slash: u mean inet6 xxx:xxx
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: nod.. why im about to install ubuntu
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: yeh
[06:28] <MrDez> that ipv6
[06:28] <poningru> majd: yeah
[06:28] <MrDez> which is np
[06:28] <DShepherd> majd: /media/cdrom
[06:28] <majd> poningru, majd@ubuntu:~$ cp -R /media/cdrom1/cip/ /var/www/
[06:28] <majd> cp: cannot create directory `/var/www/cip': Permission denied
[06:28] <MrDez> but just 'inet addr' is what needs an ip
[06:28] <cycom> interfear: dual boot, or are you just going to ditch windows?
[06:28] <killerbird> i followed the ubuntu help webpage thing and when i went to run the file it said that it doesn't work on antyhing other than i386
[06:28] <majd> how can i login as root?
[06:28] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why the weather gdesklet for montreal is not working?
[06:28] <interfear> cycom: planning on ditching windows.. unless something goes during install.. in which ill dual boot
[06:28] <DShepherd> majd: u need sudo infront of that
[06:29] <poningru> !tell majd about root
[06:29] <poningru> oh yeah
[06:29] <poningru> sorry
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: ever used linux before?
[06:29] <poningru> majd: you forgot sudo
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: oh yeh many times
[06:29] <majd> oops
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: havent for a few years
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: what distros?
[06:29] <majd> ah....the cd's workin
[06:29] <interfear> cycom: redhat.. suse.. slack..
[06:29] <majd> awsome
[06:29] <majd> thanks
[06:29] <cycom> interfear: ever use gentoo?
[06:29] <SlashX1896> sorry about that...
[06:30] <GeorgeAScott> hello
[06:30] <phiber-optic> how do I change my passwd? with passwd??
[06:30] <SlashX1896> mrdez, it said inet6 addr: and it was in thi sformat (x = letters and numbers
[06:30] <DShepherd> hi
[06:30] <Xenguy> phiber-optic: yep
[06:30] <interfear> cycom: i tried to install it.. but fdisk told me i had a 350mb hd that coudlnt be written to.. so the install kinda ended there
[06:30] <GeorgeAScott> i have a question about diskmounter
[06:30] <majd> now i gotta remember how i fixed that
[06:30] <majd> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in /var/www/cip/connector.php on line 2 3 days ago
[06:31] <SlashX1896> inter 6 addr: xxxx::xxx:xxxx:xxxx:xxxx/xx scope:Link
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: I'd try dual booting with gentoo.  it's a great education
[06:31] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why the weather gdesklet for montreal is not working?
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: but excruciating to do
[06:31] <interfear> cycom: like i said.. if i could get past the fdisk problem id install it
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: I personally liked cfdisk better, and I bet I could guess what it is
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: you were fdisking the cdrom drive.
[06:31] <cycom> interfear: do you have SATA?
[06:31] <SlashX1896> mrdez, thats what the 2nd line of eth0 looks like
[06:31] <interfear> cycom: i have sata yes
[06:32] <cycom> what did you use to invoke fdisk?
[06:32] <ITSa341> what's the most recommended app for newsgroups?  I want some live opinions before I install anything.
[06:32] <interfear> cyphase: i think like fdisk /dev/hda or w/e.. w/e they told u to do in the install manual
[06:32] <cyphase> interfear, that's a first :)
[06:32] <MrDez> sslash: not getting dhcp
[06:32] <cyphase> someone mistaking me for cycom
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: /dev/sda
[06:33] <interfear> heh sry
[06:33] <cyphase> it's usually the other way around :P
[06:33] <interfear> cycom: /dev/sda is the hard drive?
[06:33] <SlashX1896> ?
[06:33] <MrDez> were u required to give comcast the mac address of the machine u connect with when u setup service?
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: the handbook is more along guidelines than a straight instruction guide
[06:33] <MrDez> or can u connect any other machine directly with no problem
[06:33] <interfear> cycom: hrm.. so /dev/sda would work?
[06:33] <cycom> interfear: /dev/hd* is usually IDE, and /dev/sd* is scsi (aka serial ata)
[06:33] <SlashX1896> i can connect to any windows machine fine
[06:33] <interfear> ahh
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: you got it hoss.
[06:34] <DShepherd> interfear: is it sata? if it is.. it probably is
[06:34] <johndarkhorse> ITSa341: pan for newsgroups
[06:34] <GeorgeAScott> !diskmounter
[06:34] <ubotu> somebody said diskmounter was to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:34] <SlashX1896> just having problems getting on my ubuntu box
[06:34] <interfear> cycom: hrm.. i dunno about gentoo though..
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: like I said, dual boot
[06:34] <interfear> cycom: your saying dual boot ubuntu and gentoo?
[06:34] <cycom> interfear: or do what I'm working on doing. triple boot.  gentoo, ubuntu, windows XP home
[06:34] <interfear> hrm...
[06:34] <nicholaspaul> majd: dont!
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> majd:  you can seriously mess up stuff that way, and i dont mean to be  patronizing, i'm sure you know what youre doing.
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: I use ubuntu most of the time, but if I need winblows in a pinch, I can use it, and I love gentoo, so it has to get on here eventually
[06:35] <nicholaspaul> majd: the best thing to do is to use sudo .
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: I have 2 other machines running gentoo, and one running fbsd
[06:35] <cycom> interfear: Never throw out an old computer.  It can always run linux to play with and test ;)
[06:35] <interfear> cycom: i dunno about gentoo though.. i hear its hard .. i need easy linux for now.. im at school
[06:36] <ITSa341>  johndarkhorse  have you used it? and if so is it relatively easy to use for a beginner?
[06:36] <GeorgeAScott> how do i save diskmounter as a file?
[06:36] <majd> nicholaspaul, what shouldn't i do?
[06:36] <majd> try to fix it?
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> majd: dont login as root.
[06:36] <majd> oh
[06:36] <cycom> interfear: it's an education.  and if you dual boot, if you get fed up with gentoo, you can just boot back into ubuntu. :)
[06:36] <SlashX1896> mrdez, i can connect directly on everycomputer BUT my ubuntu box...
[06:36] <nicholaspaul> majd:  just type 'root' before any command .
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: ?
[06:36] <SlashX1896> nicholaspual, u mean sudo?
[06:36] <johndarkhorse> nicholaspaul: are you ignoring your messages?
[06:36] <cycom> interfear: frankly, you can 'chroot' into gentoo and install stuff from the chroot while you're in ubuntu, if you're slick ;)
[06:36] <interfear> cycom: plus doesnt gentoo take like hours upon hours to install?
[06:37] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> duh.. 'sudo' thats what i meant,
[06:37] <nicholaspaul> thanks!! (duh!)
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: *shrug* yeah, but like I said, it's an education
[06:37] <SlashX1896> lol
[06:37] <majd> when i type mysql in the terminal it takes me to the terminal
[06:37] <mcdenyer> whats the differenct between root terminal and terminal?
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: I've been working on it for like 4 hours, but about 3 and a half has been spent chatting on IRC :)
[06:37] <Crewz> interfear, more like compile, installation is fast, compiling the rest is slow, well on anything but 2ghz and ++
[06:37] <cycom> interfear: you do compile EVERYTHING though
[06:37] <GNU32> mcdenyer: not much, except that you're root. you can do anything.
[06:38] <nicholaspaul> SlashX1896: believe it or not, i do use sudo all the time!! (doh!)
[06:38] <cycom> Crewz: if he's running XP 64, you have to figure he's got that.
[06:38] <Crewz> ya
[06:38] <mcdenyer> gnu32 hmm what shouldi  usually use?
[06:38] <interfear> cycom: yeh.. i think ill just try ubuntu first..
[06:38] <SlashX1896> lol
[06:38] <interfear> i have an x2 4400
[06:38] <cycom> interfear: WUSSIE!!!! :)
[06:38] <SlashX1896> mrdez, so whats up?
[06:38] <GNU32> mcdenyer dunno
[06:38] <GNU32> mcdenyer: not much, except that you're root. you can do anything.
[06:38] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:38] <mcdenyer> how do i change the resolution of my desktop?
[06:38] <Crewz> well its compiles quite fast on a 2800+ so ..
[06:38] <cycom> interfear: Seriously, try dual booting.
[06:38] <interfear> maybe..
[06:39] <interfear> ill think about it
[06:39] <cycom> Crewz: Distcc is your friend.  I've got a 1.6ghz Pentium M supplimented with a 1.6ghz P4 and a dual 600mhz PIII (1.2ghz total)
[06:39] <mcdenyer> can somone help me change my resolution
[06:39] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:39] <GNU32> Hi. I have a DVD for ubuntu installation, however I want to spread it out on seperate disks. How?
[06:39] <cycom> interfear: installing stuff is cake.  emerge <package>
[06:39] <Crewz> cycom : my machines are already working hard, dont want to disturbe them, they get mean
[06:40] <cycom> Crewz: that's what 'nice' is for ;)
[06:40] <cycom> Crewz: define working hard
[06:40] <mcdenyer> why does ubuntu resolution not go very high?  is there anyway to make a higer resolution
[06:40] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about fixres
[06:40] <phiber-optic> anyone know how to put the desklet that allows a bar like mac?
[06:41] <interfear> ok installing ubuntu
[06:41] <interfear> be back in 30
[06:41] <MrDez> !fixres
[06:41] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[06:41] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:41] <Crewz> cycom generating heat for my cold feet
[06:41] <Crewz> hehe kidding
[06:41] <mcdenyer> xenguy hmm
[06:41] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: use sudo also
[06:42] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse yes but i have breezy not hoary
[06:42] <cycom> Crewz: you laugh, but my room is a good 5 degrees warmer than the rest of the house with 3 machines in it ;)
[06:42] <phiber-optic> anyone know how to put the desklet that allows a bar like mac??
[06:42] <SlashX1896> Mrdez?
[06:42] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: reduce the number of desktop resolution options if necessary; also try reducing from 24 to 16 colours if the preceding doesn't work
[06:42] <Crewz> cycom, got 3 machines on at all times also
[06:42] <Crewz> eventually ill get the dec alpha going
[06:42] <mcdenyer> where is the terminal shortcut in breezy i cant find it
[06:43] <cycom> Crewz: One of them has dual processor and 3 hds as well
[06:43] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: 24->16 is done manually on the /etc/X11/xorg.conf file
[06:43] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about xcfg
[06:43] <Crewz> same, small dual 266mhz, but it does it job
[06:43] <MrDez> slash: 1sec
[06:43] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: there ya go
[06:43] <Toma-> anyone know the best way to rip a CD to wav or even raw?
[06:43] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: file accessories terminal
[06:43] <cycom> Crewz: how much ram?
[06:43] <mcdenyer> johndarkhouse ok ty
[06:43] <Toma-> sound juicer isnt working :/
[06:43] <SlashX1896> mrdez, alrite
[06:43] <mcdenyer> why did the move the temrinals in breezy ?
[06:43] <Crewz> 256
[06:43] <MrDez> sslash: u dont have any sort of old router u can throw on it to see if it gets dhcp from the router?
[06:44] <killerbird> hey folks, so I have like 7 fat32 partitions that are mounted in /mnt/drive1...7 .  Anyone know how i can make it so i dont have to mount those drives everytime i reboot ubuntu??
[06:44] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: I created a hotkey to F12
[06:44] <SlashX1896> nope
[06:44] <Crewz> its got a bare ubuntu server setup, it doesnt do much, mostly masquerade (i have no router/dsl), apache, and ftp
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here Dappering with Airport Extreme
[06:44] <MrDez> ok, what is ur ip on the machine ur on right now
[06:44] <nicholaspaul> ?
[06:44] <nrdb> I am getting a lot 1000s of error messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known" does anyone know how to stop this?
[06:45] <MrDez> hit start - run - type cmd - enter - ipconfig
[06:45] <Xenguy> Crewz: none of that requires X tho
[06:45] <MrDez> hit start - run - type cmd - enter - ipconfig /all
[06:45] <SlashX1896> Mrdez, should i try pinging the ip thast lo got me when i did ifconfig
[06:45] <MrDez> sorry
[06:45] <SlashX1896> i know.. lol
[06:45] <MrDez> lo is just the loopback
[06:45] <MrDez> 127.0.0.1
[06:45] <SlashX1896> oh
[06:45] <SlashX1896> ok
[06:45] <Doomhammer> hey guys, i'm having trouble running "sudo apt-get update"
[06:45] <Doomhammer> i'm getting the same error described here: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=655052
[06:45] <mcdenyer> xenguy hey whats is the bus i dentifier?
[06:46] <Doomhammer> "package sudo is missing final newline"
[06:46] <Crewz> Xenguy, altough im running X on it at the moment, its usually not running
[06:46] <mcdenyer> xenguy should i just leave what it has for it?
[06:46] <SlashX1896> 71.227.9.236
[06:46] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: go with defaults as much as possible
[06:46] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdeskelt?
[06:46] <MrDez> doom: open terminal type 'su' press enter
[06:46] <MrDez> type passwd
[06:46] <Xenguy> Crewz: reminds me of the good old days :-)
[06:46] <MrDez> type apt-get install sudo
[06:46] <MrDez> that might fix it
[06:46] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok now is asks how much memory to put towards the graphics
[06:47] <Doomhammer> MrDez: you're saying i should set a root password ? :S
[06:47] <MrDez> otherwise u should be able to apt-get anything (without sudo in front) after entering root console
[06:47] <Doomhammer> oh oh the root console... nvm
[06:47] <mcdenyer> xenguy it says i can leave it blank
[06:47] <GeorgeAScott> does anybody know italian?  cause every time i ask wiki for help on fstab it redirects to the italian page.
[06:47] <MrDez> doom: i think su still uses ur existing username passwd
[06:47] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: you can either guess, or look up your video card's specs on the web I guess (or take a default if there is one :-)
[06:47] <MrDez> sslash: write that down and the netmask and the gateway
[06:47] <Crewz> Xenguy, i started with Slack 3.2, still got the cdrom.com Boxset
[06:47] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: blank
[06:47] <Xenguy> Crewz: hehe
[06:47] <MrDez> manually enter it on ubu box
[06:48] <interfear> cycom: ubuntu install crashed where it always does.. cd-rom read error.  im gonna try gentoo
[06:48] <interfear> cycom: should i use 32bit gentoo or 64?
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy what about this kernal framebuffer thing?
[06:48] <cycom> 64
[06:48] <SlashX1896> where on the ubunut box
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy enable it or not?
[06:48] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: isn't the default answer 'no' ?
[06:48] <cycom> you have a 64 processor.  and move into #gentoo
[06:48] <interfear> k
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy yes but it suggest enabling
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy iy
[06:48] <mcdenyer> xenguy it*
[06:48] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: go with the default when in doubt :-)
[06:48] <Doomhammer> MrDez: nope, my password isn't working for su
[06:49] <killerbird> does anyone know how to mount an NTFS formatted partition??
[06:49] <killerbird> i only care about reading
[06:49] <Crewz> Xenguy, slack3.2, then rh 5 to 6.1, then mandrake (i was tempted by the darkside), then debian, sorcerer, gentoo and ubuntu *(i tried many others, including all bsd's)
[06:49] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdesklet?
[06:49] <SlashX1896> mrdez, where do i manually enter it?
[06:49] <MrDez> use System - Administration - Networking
[06:49] <bimberi> killerbird: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[06:49] <SlashX1896> then?
[06:49] <Crewz> Solaris 5.7 and up (evil), linux on sparcs is much faster
[06:49] <Xenguy> Crewz: wow, you've been around.  Me: RH -> Debian, and much later Ubuntu
[06:49] <killerbird> thank:)
[06:50] <nrdb> I am getting a lot 1000s of error messages "atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0)" and "atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it known" does anyone know how to stop this?
[06:50] <bimberi> killerbird: np :)
[06:50] <MrDez> ethernet connection - properties - configuration: static ip
[06:50] <MrDez> then mirror ur current box settings that that machine
[06:50] <MrDez> then ok - ok and restart ub
[06:50] <MrDez> after restart, open term and sudo ifconfig
[06:50] <MrDez> make sure it kept the settings
[06:50] <MrDez> as static
[06:50] <MrDez> and inet addr: 77.xxxxx
[06:50] <MrDez> is second line
[06:51] <Xenguy> nrdb: I get those too
[06:51] <Crewz> Xenguy, yeah, i actually have a private school linux course diploma, (already knew everything, was fun to piss off proffessor, by remotly opening his CDROM all the time) , but i wanted a paper, saying i knew linux, so..
[06:51] <MrDez> doom: 1 min
[06:51] <SlashX1896> what do you mean mirror ur current box settings that that machine?
[06:51] <majd> i'm having major issues with mysql
[06:51] <majd> anyone willing to help?
[06:51] <majd> i installed phpmyadmin and i get the following error:
[06:51] <nrdb> Xenguy: have you managed to stop them?
[06:51] <MrDez> sslash: use the ip settings from ipconfig on this machine
[06:51] <majd> Cannot load mysql extension. Please check your PHP configuration. - Documentation
[06:51] <Xenguy> Crewz: some certifications can help get a job, yep
[06:52] <Crewz> and i know, i work at a damn puter shop, peddling an evil OS and bad software
[06:52] <MrDez> make sure ip, netmask and gateway is set to exact same
[06:52] <SlashX1896> as the one on this laptop?
[06:52] <MrDez> yes
[06:52] <SlashX1896> ok i didall that
[06:52] <SlashX1896> now restart?
[06:52] <Doomhammer> majd: i'm pretty sure you need to install a package named something like php4-mysql
[06:52] <MrDez> yes
[06:52] <Xenguy> nrdb: no, I don't know yet what causes them, but it doesn't appear to be anything vital yet
[06:52] <SlashX1896> but connect the ethernet cable back tothe ubuntu bo
[06:52] <SlashX1896> box
[06:53] <Crewz> oh and i code most of the websites around here
[06:53] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me how to set up the starter gdesklet?
[06:53] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok when it gives me a list of resolutions and asks me to select the ones i want how do i check them off?
[06:53] <MrDez> Crewz: long live sunOS 4.2
[06:53] <MrDez> ;)
[06:53] <mcdenyer> xenguy like what button do i use?
[06:53] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: space key
[06:53] <nrdb> Xenguy: It is adding lots of junk to my log files I just whant to stop it.
[06:53] <MrDez> sslash: after it reboots
[06:53] <MrDez> then connect the cable
[06:53] <Crewz> MrDez, thats like saying long live the anykey on old compaq's
[06:53] <Xenguy> nrdb: let me know if you find out :-)
[06:53] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: use the space bar
[06:53] <j2dope> hi. is there a way to make it so when i click my middle mouse button, i have a drag icon?
[06:53] <MrDez> sslash: and dont restart router
[06:54] <mcdenyer> xenguy how do i go back?
[06:54] <MrDez> sslash: going afk for a smoke, be back in 10 mins or so
[06:54] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: hrm, tab and shift-tab  ?
[06:54] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: ctrl-c the process and start over
[06:54] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: or use your arrows for up n down
[06:54] <majd> how can i restart the apache server?
[06:54] <Eleaf> bye
[06:55] <mcdenyer> hmm ok i just dont know what my monitors setrtings things are
[06:55] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse when i hit ctrl c nothing happened
[06:55] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: yeah, maybe Ctrl-C and try choosing the 'Simple' option for monitors  ?
[06:55] <MrDez> majd: sudo apachectl restart
[06:55] <Xenguy> hrm
[06:55] <mcdenyer> yeah notihng happenhed when i hit ctrl c
[06:55] <MrDez> er
[06:55] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: you can also close the terminal emulator
[06:56] <fireonyx> I have a question about compiling a kernel..  this the right place to ask?
[06:56] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: ask away
[06:56] <nrdb> Xenguy: I just too a punt and used the command "sudo setkeycodes e02a 126" that at least stop the messages
[06:56] <Xenguy> fireonyx: sure
[06:56] <benplaut> anyone know of a good [O'Reilly?]  book on bash/shell scripting?
[06:56] <MrDez> majd: or sudo /etc/init.d/apachectl restart
[06:56] <MrDez> i think
[06:56] <Xenguy> nrdb: hrm, thanks
[06:56] <majd> sudo: /etc/init.d/apachectl: command not found
[06:56] <majd> sudo: apachectl: command not found
[06:56] <luisito> Is there a way of put shadows under the menus and windows?
[06:57] <MrDez> well then
[06:57] <picasso> apachectl is in /usr/sbin/ or /usr/local/sbin/ probably
[06:57] <benplaut> !xcompmgr
[06:57] <ubotu> Not a clue, benplaut
[06:57] <Xenguy> benplaut: yeah, the 'fish' book :-)
[06:57] <Doomhammer> majd: it's sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[06:57] <MrDez> /usr/sbin
[06:57] <MrDez> what picasso said
[06:57] <MrDez> no ln to it in ub i guess
[06:57] <Doomhammer> majd: assumming I know what it is you're trying to do :P
[06:57] <majd> yeah that worked, thanks dooglus
[06:57] <Crewz> benplaut, http://www.oreilly.com/catalog/bash2/
[06:57] <majd> yeah i just installed php4-mysql
[06:57] <majd> and i need to restart the server
[06:57] <benplaut> thanks
[06:57] <benplaut> i've got 45 days to the online DB... downloading as much as a want via PDF >:D
[06:58] <majd> can i just permantely change the permissions to my /var/www/ folder so i don't have to do everything in terminal?
[06:58] <fireonyx> I am compiling the 2.6.15 kernel, have installed the kolivas patches..  also the suspend patch.  I did the make oldconfig and held down enter for all the ?..  Currently in make config.  Trying to pick which proccessor to pick.  I have the Turion64, but I dont want the 64bit processor part yet.. as I hear dl/compiling stuff is a bit more complex
[06:58] <MrDez> bad idea majd
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> majd: not a good idea
[06:59] <MrDez> unless its an isolated server for an intranet that will never ever touch the internet in any way
[06:59] <MrDez> then, go nuts ;)
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy ok done now would u mind telling me exactly what i just did?
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy like what the xserver and xorg is
[06:59] <j2dope> hi. is there a way to make it so when i click my middle mouse button, i have a drag icon?
[06:59] <johndarkhorse> majd: you shouldn't change the permissions of anything that isnt in your home folder (and be careful changing some of those)
[06:59] <mcdenyer> xenguy just like explain the command
[06:59] <majd> i see
[06:59] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse thank you for the help
[07:00] <majd> it's just a pain though
[07:00] <moodsoft> Anyone here know a fair amount about Samba and Ubuntu?
[07:00] <MrDez> majd: configure apache to point websites to home folder eg /home/user1/public_html
[07:00] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse how do i change my resolution now?
[07:00] <MrDez> and use virtual domains to manage it
[07:01] <killerbird> i need help setting up divx etc codecs on my 64 bit machine, can i get some directions :)?
[07:01] <MrDez> !w32codecs
[07:01] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:01] <Vashypooh> Is it normal for Linux to only allow 1 thing to access the soundcard at a time?
[07:01] <MrDez> killerbird: see ubotu link
[07:01] <killerbird> up thanks
[07:01] <luisito> Is there a way of put shadows under the menus and windows?
[07:01] <rixth> Vashypooh, no. I think you are using OSS
[07:01] <killerbird> i tried the ubuntu help one and it didn't work so i had to ask :/
[07:02] <Vashypooh> Think i should install nforce platforum drivers?
[07:02] <Doomhammer> hmmm when i try to mount a samba share, i get "smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported"
[07:02] <mcdenyer> whats the terminal commadn to change resolutions
[07:02] <rixth> Vashypooh, yoi need to swap the audio sink over to ALSA.
[07:02] <killerbird> oh wait
[07:02] <mcdenyer> and to pull up a list of available resolutions to pick form?
[07:02] <rixth> It is in gconf-editor I think
[07:02] <killerbird> i tried this link and it didn't work
[07:02] <Vashypooh> when Ubuntu starts up it says its starting Alsa
[07:02] <fireonyx> any idea which processor to pick on a Turion64 w/o 64bit support?
[07:02] <digirat> hi, i'm trying to do a "make" and i get the following error: "make: c: Command not found"... what am i missing?
[07:03] <rixth> Vashypooh, yes, but that doesn't nesscessairly mean that applications are using it
[07:03] <Vashypooh> Where do i check to see what its loading
[07:03] <binarydigit> digirat: build-essentials package
[07:03] <digirat> ty
[07:03] <Vashypooh> Im just happy i finally got Linux to work so far and im watching a dvd lol
[07:03] <Doomhammer> digirat: you need the GNU C compiler -- which is included in build-essentials
[07:03] <bombfans> how to upgrade the kernel?
[07:03] <slashx> Mrdez, ok when i did ifconfig i got inet addr: 71.227.9.236 and then the bcast and mask
[07:03] <rixth> Vashypooh, run gstreamer-properties
[07:03] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: say what?
[07:03] <digirat> E: Couldn't find package build-essentials
[07:04] <johndarkhorse> digirat: drop the last 's'
[07:04] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:04] <digirat> build-essential is already the newest version.
[07:04] <Vashypooh> Default Output sink is ESD, Default Source is OSS
[07:04] <Vashypooh> switch both to Alsa?
[07:04] <Doomhammer> digirat: try doing apt-get install gcc
[07:05] <digirat> latest version
[07:05] <binarydigit> try "make"
[07:05] <johndarkhorse> digirat: what was your question again?
[07:05] <rixth> Vashypooh, switch default sink to ESD
[07:05] <majd> damnit...i f*ed up
[07:05] <Vashypooh> it is Rixth
[07:05] <slashx> Mrdez, what did u want me to do after i rebooted, and did sudo ifconfi
[07:05] <slashx> ifconfig
[07:05] <Vashypooh> Default Sink Outpit is ESD
[07:05] <Vashypooh> default source is OSS
[07:05] <digirat> i'm doing a make, and i get a "make: c: Command not found" error
[07:05] <MrDez> ya and makre sure eth0 has the right ip now
[07:05] <binarydigit> digirat: apt-get install make
[07:05] <slashx> it does it has the same ip as this laptop
[07:06] <MrDez> 2nd or 3rd line should be 'inet addr:77.##.##.##
[07:06] <fireonyx> which processor do I pick in the make config/processor window... Athlon/Duron/k7 or Opteron/Athlon64/Hammer/K8?
[07:06] <rixth> YOu shouldn't be having any problems then :S What error do you get when two applications try and play sound?
[07:06] <timfrost> digirat, do you have an environment variable CC set?  (echo $CC)
[07:06] <slashx> 2nd line does
[07:06] <MrDez> sepearte from inet6 addr: ABC:123
[07:06] <rixth> !tell fireonyx about repeat
[07:06] <digirat> no i don't tim
[07:06] <GeorgeAScott> how do i run this as a file ? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[07:06] <fireonyx> hmm, need to register for private tells..
[07:06] <slashx> 3rd line has that
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: for the amd64
[07:06] <slashx> 2nd line has 71.##.##.##
[07:06] <johndarkhorse> fireonyx: athlon64
[07:06] <MrDez> ok good
[07:06] <MrDez> try it
[07:06] <slashx> ?
[07:06] <MrDez> make sure
[07:07] <slashx> what you mean try it
[07:07] <MrDez> u use the same cable that is plugged into the laptop
[07:07] <slashx> i am
[07:07] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: save it and do a chmod +x on the file, then you can say ./file.sh
[07:07] <MrDez> then ping from it
[07:07] <MrDez> once its connected
[07:07] <Vashypooh> ah there it goes, it was a seperate option with XMMS
[07:07] <digirat> timfrost where do i set the environment variable cc?
[07:07] <GeorgeAScott> ah.. thank binary
[07:07] <fireonyx> sorry rixth..  getting tells from johndarkhorse, dont have private tells enabled yet..
[07:07] <binarydigit> np
[07:07] <rixth> Ah I see :)
[07:07] <slashx> b4 i got back on my laptop i pinged it and i got a whole bunch of non stop pings
[07:08] <Vashypooh> I do actually get some ALSA errors from Wine tho
[07:08] <vb_coder> #linux
[07:08] <fireonyx> hold on, registering nick..
[07:09] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:09] <MrDez> slashx: could u ping google.com?
[07:09] <slashx> crap forgot to lol
[07:09] <slashx> brb
[07:09] <MrDez> LOL
[07:09] <MrDez> well
[07:09] <MrDez> ur prolly ok then
[07:09] <slashx> lol il go try and then come back
[07:09] <MrDez> open xchat on that box once u got it up
[07:09] <slashx> my bad
[07:09] <slashx> i know
[07:09] <timfrost> digirat, you shouldn't need to. The configure script should find /usr/bin/gcc and use that in the Makefile.
[07:10] <slashx> ive been on ubuntu for over 2 months now but using a wireless connection :)
[07:10] <timfrost> digirat, what are you compiling?
[07:10] <digirat> modauthldap_apache2
[07:10] <digirat> i need it for webdav
[07:10] <moodsoft> in case anyone has joined recently, I could use some help w/ Samba and Ubuntu
[07:11] <nbound> how do i change the properties of a folder and make it recursive?
[07:11] <aranis> nbound do you meand chmod?
[07:11] <nbound> aranis, i dunno, ;)
[07:11] <timfrost> digirat, can you pastebin the Makefile?
[07:11] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell nbound about cli
[07:12] <nbound> all ive used chmod for is making run files exectuable
[07:12] <SlashX18966> still not working mrdez...
[07:12] <Vashypooh> Can anyone help me with some Wine Issues
[07:12] <nbound> johndarkhorse, heh i know what a CLI is ;P
[07:12] <luisito> what is a "memory leak"?
[07:12] <tristanmike> I have a Hoary install and I would like to try Breezy, I want to make a backup of my current install. I'd like to have an exact duplicate of what I have now so that when I 'restore' it would be like I just rebooted, is this possible and if so could someone give me some ideas?
[07:12] <majd> weird
[07:12] <_jason> nbound, chmod -R
[07:12] <SlashX18966> when i pigned 64.233.187.99 i got connect: network is unreachable
[07:12] <nbound> Vashypooh, what issues?
[07:12] <nbound> _jason, thx
[07:12] <majd> now phpmyadmin works fine, but when i put my own site up...it doesn't work
[07:12] <binarydigit> moodsoft: no one is going to help you until you ask a specific question
[07:12] <digirat> timfrost one sec
[07:13] <Vashypooh> Im trying to load Steam, I got it to load fine, but Steam is reallly slow, and these errors show in console, ima msg so mods dont get upset
[07:13] <moodsoft> luisito, a memory leak, is when a program doesn't release the memory its using when it exits
[07:13] <SlashX18966> Mrdez: =/ ...
[07:13] <mcdenyer> lol
[07:13] <nbound> Vashypooh, check the appdb at winehq
[07:13] <mcdenyer> whats the root pw?
[07:13] <_jason> nbound, you can search man pages if you type '/', your search term, and then enter (n and N to then go to 'next' find)
[07:13] <mcdenyer> cuase my pw wont work lol
[07:13] <Vashypooh> I did, and i followed the guide exactly
[07:13] <SlashX18966> mcdenyer, u chose that when u installed..
[07:14] <mcdenyer> yes but the password i thought i put in doesnt work
[07:14] <luisito> moodsoft, great! thanks
[07:14] <mcdenyer> it says auth failure
[07:14] <killerbird> how do i install fakeroot?
[07:14] <SlashX18966> u thought wrong lol
[07:14] <killerbird> whatever that is?
[07:14] <GeorgeAScott> binary, what do i do after chmod +x?
[07:14] <killerbird> http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s
[07:14] <_jason> killerbird, apt-get install fakeroot
[07:14] <killerbird> thanks
[07:14] <auk> ok
[07:14] <mcdenyer> well is the root pw different from all the other pws?
[07:14] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: did you do chmod +x filename.sh ?
[07:14] <adriyel> _jason, he might need a sudo before that m8
[07:15] <_jason> adriyel, he does
[07:15] <GeorgeAScott> haha no
[07:15] <mcdenyer> i only remember putting in one pw during installation
[07:15] <binarydigit> GeorgeAScott: then you can just run the file by saying ./filename.sh
[07:15] <SlashX18966> Mrdez, am i better off just waiting a week or 2, till i get a new rouer
[07:15] <auk> i have just installed ubuntu on my parents comp, with two user accounts
[07:15] <mcdenyer> and the pw works for everything else
[07:15] <mcdenyer> but not this
[07:15] <SlashX18966> mcdenyer, the pw u used to log in should work
[07:15] <binarydigit> yea specifying the filename helps ;)
[07:15] <nemik> i'm going insane with this small laptop. wifi via PCMCIA worked great, so i apt-'got' XFCE and openoffice. worked fine. then when i tried to reboot, it looks like ended everything, but stuck at 'now rebooting...' so i turned it off. not all hell broke loose. system crashes with segmentation fault if i do 'iwlist ath0 scanning' what do i do? reinstall base? start ALL over?
[07:15] <tristanmike> ubotu, tell mcdenyer about root
[07:15] <mcdenyer> yeah it wont work is the wierd thing
[07:15] <_jason> adriyel, i start dropping sudo the later it gets :P
[07:15] <moodsoft> binarydigit, ok. here's my question. I can get the samba daemons to run, but I'm unable to browse to them, smbclient returns it can't help me because of: NT_STATUS_BAD_NETWORK_NAME
[07:15] <auk> i set upp a bunch of gnome-panel, gnome-menu, nautilus etc settign on one account, but not on the other.
[07:15] <SlashX18966> hm..
[07:15] <auk> i now want to mimic those setting son the other account
[07:15] <varsendagger> in gimp hey how do i make just the layer i am working on grayscaled?
[07:15] <mcdenyer> ok i got it to work
[07:15] <mcdenyer> i used sudo
[07:15] <moodsoft> hi iKernel
[07:15] <adriyel> _jason, I start dropping random words the later it gets, lol
[07:16] <binarydigit> moodsoft: you try googling the error message?
[07:16] <_jason> adriyel, ha
[07:16] <digirat> timfrost: http://pastebin.com/507811 ... but now that i look at it, i think i'm missing something else
[07:16] <majd> Doomhammer, could you give me the code to restart apache again? i lost it =\ sorry
[07:16] <SlashX18966> mrdez, well i gtg... this is my dads laptop and he needs it for work.. thanks for trying to help..
[07:16] <phiber-optic> can anybody help me with the starter gdesklet please??
[07:16] <phiber-optic> ??
[07:16] <auk> and i can't jsut copy the settings dirs over like makes sense because they're populated with magic values :(
[07:16] <moodsoft> binarydigit, not yet, I was hoping to get some interactive help
[07:16] <binarydigit> sorry, don't know much abou tit
[07:16] <adriyel> _jason, point in case, codecs install = sud apt install streamer8-plug
[07:17] <SlashX18966> well il be back in like 1 or 2 weeks...
[07:17] <SlashX18966> bye all
[07:17] <SlashX18966> whenever i get my new router..
[07:17] <bluefoxicy> see
[07:17] <varsendagger> phiber-optic,sudo  apt-get install gdesklets
[07:18] <adriyel> _jason, as you can see, I become rather useless after being conscious for 20 or so hours
[07:18] <nemik> does anyone know how to fix a 'segmentation fault' when using iwlist?
[07:18] <phiber-optic> I have already installed gdesklets
[07:18] <varsendagger> what do you need then?
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, good lord, you're using THAT name? thats rather cheeky dontcha think? whaddya need m8?
[07:18] <phiber-optic> but theres is an application starter that looks like the apple dock
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, I had that issue earlier
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, I can help you
[07:18] <phiber-optic> nicee...
[07:18] <adriyel> phiber-optic, ditch gdesklets, the way I went about it is
[07:19] <adriyel> I created a new panel
[07:19] <adriyel> made it transparent
[07:19] <adriyel> dragged icons onto it
[07:19] <adriyel> then created an applet within the panel that listed apps
[07:19] <adriyel> or, you can customize it however you want
[07:19] <phiber-optic> how do you create a new panel
[07:19] <varsendagger> don't listen to him gdesklets is cool
[07:19] <adriyel> right click on the background
[07:19] <timfrost> digirat, the line 'APXS=' should have a value after the '='.  Several lines in the makefile expect that to be set to a special command
[07:20] <varsendagger> aby ideas on theat gimp problem?
[07:20] <moodsoft> binarydigit, ok, I figured out why i was getting that. now I just need to figure out how to get my client system to see the smb server
[07:20] <adriyel> varsendagger, the applet that everyone gets to emulate OS X functionality is just a glorified shortcut bar, a Gnome Panel offers more functionality, and you don't have to bugger with downloading applets
[07:20] <binarydigit> moodsoft: cool, good luck
[07:20] <adriyel> phiber-optic, correction, sorry, right click on the bottom panel taskbar thingy
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> use wine and the yahoo-dashboard thinggie :P
[07:20] <adriyel> create new panel
[07:20] <adriyel> delete the old panel
[07:20] <adriyel> and customize away
[07:20] <majd> i installed php4-mysql
[07:21] <majd> but it's not showing up in my phpinfo.php file
[07:21] <vb_coder> my screen flashes and gets bright in ubuntu. does anyone know why this happens or how to fix it?
[07:21] <moodsoft> and the client gives me a very unhelpful error message :-( which I have googled and all I could find was people asking what it means lol
[07:21] <phiber-optic> ill try
[07:21] <phiber-optic> but i want it to look like the osx panel
[07:21] <phiber-optic> :(
[07:21] <adriyel> if you make it transparent
[07:21] <adriyel> and use the proper icons, e.t.c.
[07:21] <adriyel> it'll look pretty similar
[07:21] <varsendagger> adriyel, so how do you do the zooming icons?
[07:22] <adriyel> varsendagger, I was getting to that
[07:22] <tristanmike> varsendagger, image->mode->greyscale doesn't work?
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> i hate how the OS-X panel works. :P
[07:22] <varsendagger> just a sec
[07:22] <adriyel> however, if you want less functionality, but with the full effect, I can dig up the applet for you
[07:22] <phiber-optic> yeah that would be good
[07:22] <GeorgeAScott> thanks again binarydigit, i think i finally got it to work...
[07:23] <varsendagger> tristanmike, no it does the whole imiage, not jsut one layer
[07:23] <phiber-optic> I would really appreciate it adriyel
[07:23] <majd> i installed php4-mysql
[07:23] <majd> but it's not showing up in my phpinfo.php file
[07:23] <majd> mysql that is
[07:23] <majd> i also have the client and the servre installed
[07:23] <majd> phpmyadmin works fine
[07:23] <adriyel> I msg'ed you the link phiber-optic, browse thru there
[07:23] <varsendagger> layer colors desaturate
[07:24] <prada> majd: modify php.ini and enable it there ..
[07:24] <adriyel> drag the link you want into gdesklets window and it'll add it
[07:24] <adriyel> have fun
[07:24] <phiber-optic> I didnt receive it
[07:24] <adriyel> bloody...
[07:24] <adriyel> sigh
[07:24] <phiber-optic> Private messages from unregistered users are currently blocked due to spam problems, but you can always message a staffer. Please register! ( http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#privmsg )
[07:25] <adriyel> GAH
[07:25] <adriyel> http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org/categories.php?func=gd_show_sub_cat&gd_subcat_view=7
[07:25] <adriyel> I am too tired to bugger with tiny-url
[07:25] <phiber_optic> lool
[07:25] <varsendagger> kde does that zooming icons deal pretty well
[07:25] <adriyel> there it is
[07:25] <adriyel> varsendagger, take your KDE evangelism to #kubuntu
[07:25] <varsendagger> adriyel, sorry
[07:25] <theconartist> gnome > KDE!!!!
[07:25] <mcdenyer> hey if my sound is working is surround sound also allreayd installed to?
[07:26] <adriyel> varsendagger, its alright, I prefer KDE on some certain points, but it eats too much processor time for my taste
[07:26] <majd> prada, thanks
[07:26] <phiber_optic> ok adrivel ... I have already starter bar.. But i dont know how to put more prograns in to it
[07:26] <theconartist> dont make me get the ximian monkey to sking feces
[07:26] <mcdenyer> like i have a surround sound capable sound card if im hearing sound out of my speakers does that mean srs is going too?
[07:26] <Toma-> anyone use Audacity? and know how to find the peaks?
[07:26] <adriyel> you click config or manage gdesklets after right clicking on the little gdesklets icon
[07:26] <twitch101> WHATS THE COMMAND TO INSTALL A .DEB FILE
[07:27] <adriyel> click and drag the toolbar into it
[07:27] <adriyel> twitch101, QUIET DOWN, ITS SLEEPY TIME
[07:27] <auk> other than hardcoding in thier config files
[07:27] <twitch101> srry
[07:27] <Toma-> twitch101: caps are for lewsers
[07:27] <twitch101> yea me
[07:27] <Toma-> twitch101: sudo dpkg -i your.deb
[07:27] <digirat> how do i find where apt-get installed apache?
[07:27] <phiber_optic> yeah I did that
[07:27] <auk> digirat, whereis apache
[07:27] <nemik> does anyone know how to fix a 'segmentation fault' when using iwlist?
[07:27] <phiber_optic> put it only adds a little icon
[07:28] <nemik> or any segmentation fault?
[07:28] <Toma-> nemik: report a bug?
[07:28] <nemik> does apt-get install ubuntu-base reinstall?
[07:28] <adriyel> nemik, seg fault eh? heheheh, sounds like a 'sploit waiting to happen. *grins*
[07:28] <guanaco_> I use putty to connect to my linux box.  How do I export my ssh key to my putty client?  This is for security purposes
[07:28] <nemik> adriyel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=661126 if you're instereste
[07:28] <nemik> d
[07:29] <phiber_optic> anyway to put more icons?
[07:29] <Toma-> nemik: ath0? isnt it eth0?
[07:29] <timfrost> digirat, dpkg -L lists the files in a package
[07:29] <adriyel> nemik, you from BSD land or somethin boy? ath0 is BSD enumeration
[07:30] <nemik> Toma- not on this computer, it is the same thing. but it uses a PCMCIA wifi card
[07:30] <Toma-> weird
[07:30] <vb_coder> my screen flashes and gets bright in ubuntu. does anyone know why this happens or how to fix it?
[07:30] <nemik> no, not from BSD land, ubuntu 'server' install assigned it that name
[07:30] <adriyel> nemik, hahahahaha, thats awesome, iwlist overflows when its scanning and seg faults, gahahaha
[07:30] <nemik> funny for you! :p
[07:30] <Toma-> ...
[07:30] <adriyel> I wonder if you could elevate permissions with that... :)
[07:31] <adriyel> I just think its funny that they screwed up the scan function
[07:31] <Toma-> adriyel: hackers belong on windows.
[07:31] <Toma-> nemik: are they the correct drivers?
[07:31] <nemik> but it worked fine before!!! only after that failed reboot it became crappy like this
[07:31] <adriyel> "hackers belong on windows" ...riiight...
[07:31] <Toma-> and is dmesg saying anything when it seg faults?
[07:31] <adriyel> the original hackers were on DEC hardware, a far cry from some wintel trash
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> Okay, so now that I've got the port forwarding for my router down, a related question:
[07:32] <Toma-> adriyel: i doubt anyone in here cares.
[07:32] <timfrost> guanaco_,  copy your private key file to a safe place, then load it into putty agent (pageant), which sits in the system tray.  pageant reads the openSSH private key file once you enter your passphrase
[07:32] <adriyel> Toma-, don't be unfriendly.
[07:32] <nemik> Toma- drivers were fine, and i don't think xFCE4 (xubuntu-desktop) or open office touched them since it worked after i apt-got those
[07:32] <Toma-> adriyel: just being realistic :)
[07:32] <nemik> it must have been that reboot....did that ever happen to you guys?
[07:32] <mcdenyer> hey how do i set up ubuntu to play movie clips from the internet like movies from ebaumsworld
[07:33] <adriyel> Toma-, apathy is relative, keep your perception of reality to yourself if it ain't gonna brighten my day, clear?
[07:33] <tristanmike> I have a Hoary install and I would like to try Breezy, I want to make a backup of my current install. I'd like to have an exact duplicate of what I have now so that when I 'restore' it would be like I just rebooted, is this possible and if so could someone give me some ideas?
[07:33] <tonyyarusso> If someone connects to the internet through a university network, will they probably have to do port forwarding to use certain programs?  (And how, since they wouldn't have their own router like I do?)
[07:33] <adriyel> WTF
[07:33] <adriyel> spam
[07:33] <guanaco_> Timfrost, Thanks.  do they reside under /etc/ssh?
[07:33] <Toma-> adriyel: notice youre in a help chan?
[07:33] <nemik> pkilled all processes it seemed, sent TERM's, then in LAST step, took forever with "Rebooting now....." so i just pressed power button...bad idea? i didn't think it cared about it at that point?
[07:34] <pmallapp> hi all
[07:34] <varsendagger> hi pmallapp
[07:34] <mcdenyer> what do i use to play video off the net like movies form ebaumsworld.com
[07:34] <Toma-> nemik: are all the settings in /etc/network/interfaces correct?
[07:34] <digirat> how do i go about searching my filesystem for a file?
[07:34] <timfrost> guanaco_, are you talking about personal keys, or the server key?
[07:34] <nemik> mcdenyer, check out automatix
[07:34] <Toma-> lawl ebaum
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> !automatix
[07:34] <ubotu> automatix is, like, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!, or try !easyubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[07:34] <pmallapp> anybody with mplayer on  a amd64 + dapper and having problems with .mov files? ... solved ? please help me
[07:34] <mcdenyer> nemik ok is it in the package manageR?
[07:34] <prada> tristanmike: you could use dd and backup your partition elsewhere ..
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> nemik: please dont do that
[07:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about automatix
[07:35] <guanaco_> the server, I just want to export the key to my putty client
[07:35] <pmallapp> varsendagger, hi
[07:35] <tristanmike> prada, dd??
[07:35] <nemik> automatix worked on every breezy install i have done. so i would recommend it. sorry, just opinion
[07:35] <Toma-> pmallapp: you might find there are no 64bit w32codecs...
[07:35] <prada> tristanmike: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/dev/hdb .. something like that
[07:35] <prada> it works fine ..
[07:35] <timfrost> guanaco_, the fiurst time you connect to the server, it will show the hash for the server key.  You approve it, and putty will store it in its server keys file
[07:35] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ubotu says automatix is bad what else can i use
[07:36] <Toma-> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about w32codecs
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I use the mplayer plugin with firefox.
[07:36] <mcdenyer> ubotu tell nemik about automatix
[07:36] <ogami1972> why automatix bad idea?
[07:36] <nemik> Toma- yes, /etc/network/interfaces seems ok
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, With the codecs mentioned.
[07:36] <pmallapp> Toma-, i do know but i am trying to find out anybody hacked abd got a w64codecs :)
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> ogami1972, Did you see the factoid?
[07:36] <Toma-> hehe w64codecs :D clever
[07:36] <ogami1972> no
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell ogami1972 about automatix
[07:37] <tristanmike> prada, how would I then restore it?
[07:37] <guanaco_> what if I want to store the key permanetly? under putty that is.
[07:37] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso how do i install that and where
[07:37] <Toma-> automatix is horrid, imho.
[07:38] <prada> similar way ... dd if=/dev/hdb of=/dev/hda ...
[07:38] <ogami1972> i haven't had any problems with it- what  should i be looking for?
[07:38] <pmallapp> /etc/init.d/networking restart gives me a "Error: File exists" what the heck
[07:38] <prada> set a good block size though or else it's going to take way too long ..
[07:38] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure the starter-bar gdesklet as an OSX one?
[07:38] <nemik> i looked through automatix code and admit it is pretty fragile, but it did work for me
[07:38] <prada> and be careful ;)
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, For the codecs, use the link in your message from ubotu.  You can get mplayer and its plugin with 'sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 mozilla-mplayer'.
[07:39] <nemik> thanks for the tip about easyubuntu though, may have to try that next time
[07:39] <timfrost> guanaco_, the server public key *is* stored permanaently by putty.  The putty directory has two files (authorized_keys and authorized_keys2), where it saves SSH type 1 and type 2 keys respectively.
[07:39] <tristanmike> prada, interesting, and this would basically take a snapshot of my partition and all I would have to to is the second command to copy over a clean install of Hoary to get me back to snuff?
[07:39] <prada> tristanmike: yup ... I've done this, so it works !
[07:39] <vb_coder> do i need a driver or any configuration in ubuntu to use a microphone?
[07:39] <timfrost> guanaco_, or else the keys are stored in the registry
[07:40] <tristanmike> prada, does this perserve permissions too?
[07:40] <prada> tristanmike: everything ... it's a clone
[07:40] <tristanmike> prada, cool, and out of curiosity, why type of file does it create?
[07:40] <Toma-> nemik: looks like iwlist is a bit annoying for other ppl too. (http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=363456)
[07:41] <guanaco_> Thanks, Timfrost
[07:41] <prada> tristanmike: I'm not too sure about the file type ... prpbably iso or something.
[07:41] <phiber_optic> was anybody able to configure the starter-bar gdesklet as an OSX one?
[07:42] <prada> tristanmike: just be careful with the partitions ...
[07:42] <nemik> Toma- thanks for that link! may have try that last script he posted
[07:42] <phiber_optic> I would really appreciate if anyone can help me
[07:42] <Toma-> nemik: Obviously make it in english tho ;D
[07:43] <nemik> Toma- yes, of course! :D
[07:43] <tristanmike> prada, does this backup my mounted fat32 partition, which would be no good?
[07:43] <theneonshadow> can wmv files be played on linux?
[07:43] <Toma-> now i forgot what i was doing in audacity :(
[07:43] <Toma-> theneonshadow: yep
[07:44] <Toma-> ubotu: tell theneonshadow about w32codecs
[07:44] <nemik> Toma- though this confuses me: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-11mdkcustom/net/zd1211_mod.ko not sure if ubuntu would take that...
[07:44] <prada> tristanmike: I'm pretty sure the mounted filesystems aren't read. so if you have different partitions for /home say, you'll have to clone those seperately
[07:44] <Toma-> nemik: no way.
[07:44] <nemik> Toma- that's what i thought
[07:44] <timfrost> prada, tristanmike, that dd command just does a raw image copy of the source partition.
[07:44] <Toma-> nemik: just replace that with "modprobe your_driver"
[07:45] <prada> tristanmike: do not try to clone a mounted partition ...
[07:45] <tristanmike> timfrost, does that meet my ends tho?
[07:45] <prada> tristanmike: use a live cd or somthing
[07:45] <theneonshadow> great thanks Toma
[07:45] <MrDez> !w32codecs
[07:45] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:45] <tristanmike> prada, can I bother you to take a look at something?
[07:45] <Toma-> theneonshadow: np.
[07:45] <vb_coder> my mic isnt working in ubuntu. is there something i can do to get it working?
[07:46] <prada> tristanmike: sure ...
[07:46] <tristanmike> prada, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BackupYourSystem
[07:46] <Toma-> vb_coder: have you un-muted it? (run 'alsamixer' in a terminal)
[07:46] <tristanmike> prada, I find this somewhat confusing
[07:48] <prada> tristanmike: yikes !! ... that would work too, but I still prefer the dd method.It's simpler and works great ..
[07:48] <tristanmike> prada, the question that I have, is why are they excluding any folder?
[07:49] <prada> tristanmike: mostly tmp directories and mounted filesystems ... they are pretty useless in a backup expecially /proc
[07:50] <plastic> hi all
[07:50] <plastic> I'm having some trouble upgrading from Hoary to Breezy
[07:50] <auk> ubotu fan
[07:50] <ubotu> auk: Not a clue
[07:50] <auk> ubotu cooling fan
[07:50] <ubotu> auk: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[07:50] <plastic> it should be possible to do without downloading the full Breezy CD, tight?
[07:50] <tristanmike> prada, yeah, I guess I just don't understand the purpose of the folders that why I wonder, but does it hurt if I just back up / even those "un-needed " ones? Also, do I have to be in a live CD to do that one too?
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, Where are you putting your backup?  I did a backup recently, and was looking for good ways to do it - eventually settled on rsync, which was fabulous for my needs.
[07:51] <tonyyarusso> plastic, Yeppers.
[07:51] <nemik> Toma- would apt-get install ubuntu-base do a re-install off the CDROM if i had the CD in the drive?
[07:52] <digirat> how do you apt-get uninstall something?
[07:52] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, well, I'd assume that a compressed version of my partiton can't be over a DVD, so I was going to save it to my fat32 partition, burn it, install Breezy and hopefully never look back, but incase I do....
[07:52] <Toma-> hmmm probably not
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> plastic, Just change every instance of hoary to breezy in your apt sources, then do 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> !breezy
[07:52] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:52] <prada> tristanmike: they're virtual filesystems and aren't present on the disk /proc /sys etc ..
[07:52] <Toma-> nemik: "apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-base" might...
[07:52] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, I'd perfer a clean Breezy install rather than an upgrade
[07:52] <vb_coder> i run alsamixer and pushed right arrow to get to my mic, at the top it says item mic [off]  how can i turn it on?
[07:52] <Toma-> vb_coder: press M
[07:52] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: enter, or m or something
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, I see.
[07:52] <nemik> Toma- great! thanks!
[07:52] <tristanmike> prada, so I could delete them now, and reboot and they will replace themselves?
[07:53] <Toma-> nemik: hope it works! :D
[07:53] <prada> tristanmike: yup !
[07:53] <nemik> Toma- thanks!
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> tristanmike, (That other link was for plastic)
[07:53] <vb_coder> how do i exit and save from alsamixer?
[07:53] <Toma-> np
[07:53] <benplaut> anyone know of a text editor similar to SciTE, but more configurable?
[07:53] <Toma-> vb_coder: press x
[07:53] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: try the obvious keys
[07:53] <kestasworkacc> vb_coder: not hard
[07:54] <Toma-> vb_coder: press ESC, sorry
[07:54] <tristanmike> tonyyarusso, ahh, ic, but still, that's my reason, lol
[07:55] <tristanmike> prada, so it doesn't hurt if I'm uber-paranoid and back up every file/folder on my system and a simple copy over a clean install will put me back to square one? is that right?
[07:56] <Toma-> dont backup /proc or /sys
[07:56] <kestasworkacc> thats asking for trouble
[07:56] <johndarkhorse> tristanmike: nope.
[07:56] <Toma-> and make sure you dont have any hdd mounted under /media or /mnt
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> So how much do tar/bzip compress things anyway?  As a ratio zipped:original.
[07:57] <kestasworkacc> tonyyarusso: depends on what you're compressing obviously
[07:57] <johndarkhorse> tristanmike: you'll move from your backup back into your current install a piece at a time
[07:57] <prada> tristanmike: dd does exactly that, if you're planning to use it that is
[07:57] <tonyyarusso> kestasworkacc, Maybe on average, for say backing up an entire disk as is being discussed by others.
[07:57] <kestasworkacc> if it's /dev/random you'll get about 1:1, if it's /dev/zero you'll get 1:a million
[07:57] <prada> tristanmike: dd does a raw copy, so WHATEVER is on the partion gets backed up/cloned
[07:58] <kestasworkacc> tonyyarusso: not sure, never tried it
[07:58] <jrattner1> Is there a program besides chbg that will do what "Slideshow" does under KDE
[07:58] <johndarkhorse> jrattner1: you can script 'feh' to do it.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> !info chbg
[07:58] <ubotu> chbg: (tool for changing the desktop background image in X11), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.5-6 (breezy), Packaged size: 244 kB, Installed size: 988 kB
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> Huh.  cool.
[07:59] <jrattner1> tonyyarusso, chgb is broken
[07:59] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, feh?
[08:00] <digirat> configure: error: ...No recognized SSL/TLS toolkit detected
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> jrattner1, That's too bad, sounds cool.  I've been thinking about following the directions in a book I have of 'Gnome hacks' to do just that, so until it gets fixed, I guess I'll stick with that route.
[08:00] <Mestapheles> I install a minimal ubuntu and installed "foomatic-gimp-print cupsys and gnome-cups-manager" but I can't get my supported printer to work.  Is there a problem with minimal installs and printer support?
[08:00] <phos-phoros> say for instance  I  have mounted a new hdd to /mnt/somedrive, if I were to install Ubuntu for some strange reason...the data residing on /dev/hdb1 that is mounted via /mnt/somedrive will still be intact unless otherwise chosen to delete the partitions/format/mkfs, just that I would have to edit fstab and remount /mnt/somedrive after the new installation, correct?
[08:00] <mcdenyer> hey
[08:00] <johndarkhorse> !info feh
[08:00] <mcdenyer> can somone give me a link to a good source list for breezy
[08:00] <ubotu> feh: (imlib2 based image viewer), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.3.2-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 271 kB, Installed size: 528 kB
[08:00] <jrattner1> thanks
[08:00] <phos-phoros> supposing / and swap are on hda
[08:01] <Mestapheles> installed
[08:01] <johndarkhorse> jrattner1: i've scripted my feh (you'll have to wait til im on my home machine for the script) to do slideshows
[08:01] <phos-phoros> *re-install even
[08:01] <Crewz> gnight
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Have you seen http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 yet?  (From !sources)
[08:01] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, how long do you think that would be?
[08:01] <mcdenyer> i need a good source list for breezy
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso ok yeah thats what i have
[08:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about sources
[08:02] <timfrost> digirat, install libssl-dev
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I can give you mine too if you'd like.
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso can u help me get my w32 codecs going ?
[08:02] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, ?
[08:02] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso ok
[08:02] <mud_> is there easy way to make vcd from dvd?
[08:03] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso u have aim or msn?
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Yeah, both.  pm me if you'd prefer that to get through your codecs.
[08:04] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso how do i pm with xchat?
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Actually, who am I kidding?  That would be silly.  tonyyarusso on AIM.
[08:04] <johndarkhorse> jrattner1: i get off work in 10 hours and 55 minutes
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, For reference though, /msg nick Your message here.
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, (And you have to be registered to do it in this channel.)
[08:05] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, do you think you will remember to do it
[08:05] <jrattner1> johndarkhorse, ok i got it :) thank you
[08:05] <phos-phoros> mcdenyer, why not read and follow the advice/directions here http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> !ubuntuguide
[08:06] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[08:06] <varsendagger> hey can windows machiens view .png files?
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about restricted
[08:06] <johndarkhorse> varsendagger: yes they can.
[08:08] <phos-phoros> say for instance  I  have mounted a new hdd to /mnt/somedrive, if I were to re-install Ubuntu for some strange reason...the data residing on /dev/hdb1 that is mounted via /mnt/somedrive will still be intact unless otherwise chosen to delete the partitions/format/mkfs, just that I would have to edit fstab and remount /mnt/somedrive after the new installation, correct?
[08:08] <phos-phoros> this is a correct assumption, right?
[08:08] <jrattner1> Anyone good with java, who is bored?
[08:08] <prada> phos-phoros: yep ..
[08:09] <phos-phoros> prada, thanks
[08:10] <Brax-Sleep> I need a suggestion if anyone isn't busy. I'm going to be switching my gaming machine over to linux and I would like some recommendations for which distro. I've used slackware and loved it along with kubuntu... but is there anything else that's better?
[08:11] <johndarkhorse> Brax-Sleep: 'better' is in the hands of the user
[08:11] <Brax-Sleep> True
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> Then let me refine my question
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> A distro that doesn't require way too much work to setup
[08:12] <Brax-Sleep> Along with that one that's compatible with almost everything
[08:13] <kevin> hello
[08:13] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: slackware is probably the best if your FPS mad
[08:13] <Brax-Sleep> That's what i've been told
[08:13] <kevin> how do i get into a politcal chat room pplz?
[08:13] <Brax-Sleep> What's the reasoning for that though?
[08:13] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:14] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: kernel 2.4 is more compatible with the old loki games and recent ones, and also it alot lighter in regards to kernel.
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> I tried cedega a while back and it seemed to have alot of issues with cs:s
[08:14] <cafuego> kevin: Just say you voted for George Bush.
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> Any clue if that's slackware related
[08:14] <Brax-Sleep> Or cedega
[08:14] <phos-phoros> embarassingly so.
[08:14] <johndarkhorse> cafuego: #ubuntu-offtopic with that, please
[08:15] <johndarkhorse> kevin: try #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:16] <foxiness> hi,after i do update for ubuntu ,then i can not get Gaim work "Reading error"
[08:16] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: it's a windows app, not much chance it'll run perfectly on a non-windows OS.
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> True but I mean
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> If they are advertising it
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> And showing it works with very few errors
[08:16] <Brax-Sleep> And I run it with thousands of errors
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> Graphical errors coming out of the ass
[08:17] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: A company that sells proprietary software is advertising it. They aim to make money.
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> Of course
[08:17] <Toma-> i found i could get a good framerate with slackware, as opposed to fedora or ubuntu
[08:17] <Brax-Sleep> But I seriously think that it works because other people say it doesn't shit out for them
[08:18] <Toma-> GTA3 ran faster on slackware than fedora for me. it was even faster than windows
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> Did you have any graphical issues?
[08:18] <Toma-> nope
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> I thought so
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> -_-
[08:18] <Toma-> that was a 32mb tnt2 aswell
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> LOL
[08:18] <cafuego> Brax-Sleep: Do you have an ati card?
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> I've got a gefoce 7800gtx
[08:18] <Toma-> :)
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> geforce*
[08:18] <Brax-Sleep> ;)
[08:19] <menko> quick question, would the menu in fluxbox be the same as the menu in kde if I installed it? Becuase I noticed the menus in the gnome panel are very different to the fluxbox menu I have
[08:19] <foxiness> why when i put q here no one answer me !
[08:19] <cafuego> foxiness: Maybe nobody knows the answer?
[08:19] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: the only problem ive even had with games, is that all the ID stuff doesnt play nice with alsa, so i have to do some sudo tee magic to get sopund working fine
[08:19] <ardchoille> menko: you will need to set up the fluxbox menu manually.
[08:19] <Brax-Sleep> Oh that's another question
[08:20] <menko> ardchoille: would kde be the same?
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Is there ANY way to have it so you can play more than 1 sound at once
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Like game + listen to xmms
[08:20] <borisattva> hey guys. i'm figuring out the linux installation process, and i'm noticing that some times applicatyions claim that a pacakge is not present, when it is. and when i install the package-dev that goes away. am i remediing this right? and if so, why doenst the config process just tell us that package-dev is not met ?
[08:20] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: yep, dmix
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> I'll have to come back here when I'm at that point
[08:20] <Brax-Sleep> Because that always pissed me off
[08:20] <ardchoille> menko: no, it's not the same menu as kde or as gnome. it is a menu file all onits own
[08:20] <menko> because here in mandriva there is a menu editor that effects the menus in all the window manager, just wondering how it works in ubuntu
[08:20] <foxiness> the gaim not work with me is there other one ,to use on gnome ?
[08:21] <phos-phoros> Brax-Sleep, you might check http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1554&iTestingId=753 for more info on installing steam via wine
[08:21] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: good luck finding something on dmix :)
[08:21] <ardchoille> menko: there is a menu editor that can help you edit the fluxbox menu, it's called fluxmenu
[08:21] <Toma-> !dmix
[08:21] <ubotu> I guess dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[08:21] <Toma-> ooooo
[08:21] <Toma-> there u go
[08:21] <tristanmike> g'd night all
[08:22] <timfrost> borisattva, if you are running a program somebody else packages, you don't need the -dev package.  If you are compiling it from source, you need the -dev package for each library that your app depends on.
[08:22] <Brax-Sleep> bookmarked that dmix howto
[08:22] <Brax-Sleep> Looks interesting
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[08:22] <Toma-> Brax-Sleep: cool. :) look for me when/if you need the command to get ID games working
[08:22] <Fawupa> Hey vote for my site http://www.progenic.com/vote/?id=Galekus
[08:22] <borisattva> right, so why doenst the configure process just state that package-dev presence is not met, and instead make it confusing saying pacakge itself is not met?
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[08:23] <borisattva> when it is. etc
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[08:23] <Toma-> !ops
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[08:23] <Brax-Sleep> LoL?
[08:23] <Toma-> cool.
[08:24] <Toma-> bit slow ops :S
[08:24] <borisattva> timfrost: right, so why doenst the configure process just state that package-dev presence is not met, and instead make it confusing saying pacakge itself is not met?
[08:24] <crimsun> borisattva: not all distros use the -dev package naming scheme
[08:25] <Burgundavia> please don't send people to #ubuntu-laptop or #ubuntu-devel with support requests
[08:25] <Burgundavia> or #ubuntu-bugs and #ubuntu-desktop for that matter
[08:25] <Toma-> Burgundavia: wouldnt dream of it
[08:25] <foxiness> what is the best IM on linux ?
[08:25] <Kovecses> is ubuntu a community project?
[08:25] <Brax-Sleep> gaim
[08:25] <timfrost> borisattva, some distributions (RH, Mandriva, slackware) package the dev libraries in with the run-time libraries.  Most configre scripts assume that behaviour, rather than the debian/ubuntu separatin
[08:25] <mcdenyer> when u unpack somehitng does it install it or just unpack it?
[08:25] <borisattva> linux distros ? or distros of those applications
[08:25] <Kovecses> gaim
[08:25] <Toma-> foxiness: for what protocol?
[08:26] <borisattva> i see
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, I need your help with my sound
[08:26] <borisattva> thanks tim/crimsun
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, heard you were Lord of audio, soooo
[08:26] <Toma-> mcdenyer: how did you "unpack" this file?
[08:26] <foxiness> Toma-, msn and if it can deal with gmail it will good
[08:26] <adriyel> crimsun, I have an NVIDIA AC 97, built into an A8N-SLI board
[08:26] <adriyel> 5.1 surround
[08:26] <crimsun> adriyel: I'm extremely tired, having been on the interstate for most of the day
[08:26] <adriyel> whats it take to get the surround working?
[08:27] <adriyel>  :(
[08:27] <Toma-> foxiness: im using amsn for MSN, its got webcam and nudge support... and yeh, it can do gmail
[08:27] <crimsun> adriyel: what speaker config are you trying? 4.0? 5.1?
[08:27] <Toma-> foxiness: with amsn + gmail, you need the "pop3" plugin available from their website, then just set it up to look at pop.gmail.com and so on
[08:28] <Toma-> bbl, checking final master of my bands cd ^_^
[08:28] <Toma-> i <3 oss
[08:28] <adriyel> crimsun, 5.1 surround, logitech X-530 system
[08:29] <LinuxNT> Good day! I need to configure my laptop to display a 800 x 600 resolution. During install the system question me about the resolution desired. I checked 1024 x 768, 800 x 600 and 640 x 480. But the system display only 640 x 480. I need as preference 800 x 600 but need orientation to do it? Some you help me?
[08:29] <adriyel> crimsun, I killed ESD, switched everything to alsa, nothing changed
[08:29] <crimsun> adriyel: are you using plug:surround51?
[08:30] <foxiness> Toma-, wow ,great this what i want :) am download the amsn now and then i will check the plugin
[08:30] <adriyel> crimsun, clueless, whatcha talkin about?
[08:30] <foxiness> Toma-, TIA
[08:30] <crimsun> adriyel: pastebin the output from ``amixer''
[08:30] <adriyel> why don't you just ask me the relevant sound levels?
[08:30] <adriyel> and what is and is not switched on?
[08:31] <adriyel> sigh
[08:31] <crimsun> adriyel: because I don't know what your element names are. What do you want me to do, guess?
[08:31] <adriyel> whats the link for pastebin, its a .nl something
[08:31] <Toma-> foxiness: make sure you get the latest one from their site
[08:32] <Toma-> !pastebin
[08:32] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:32] <adriyel> thank yahs
[08:32] <adriyel> it'll be right up
[08:32] <Toma-> no prabs :D
[08:32] <foxiness> Toma-, oh i get it form ubuntu repos ,is it .deb or source ?
[08:32] <Toma-> foxiness: its a deb
[08:32] <adriyel> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7199
[08:32] <adriyel> have at it crim
[08:32] <johndarkhorse> foxiness: source is always best, if you can compile it
[08:32] <adriyel> what was that plug:surround51 you mentioned?
[08:33] <Burgundavia> LinuxNT, are you running Dapper? The system should not have asked you about X config at install
[08:33] <Toma-> foxiness: get the ubuntu deb file from the amsn site, not the source >_>
[08:34] <crimsun> adriyel: first, are you using the optical output through a digital receiver, or are your headphones/speakers connected to the sound card's jacks directly?
[08:34] <adriyel> crimsun, its plugged into the jacks directly
[08:35] <adriyel> front speaks into normal green jack (for stereo), black into the violet/light something one for rear speaks, orange into orange speak for center
[08:35] <foxiness> johndarkhorse, :) forget me about this but i hate to do something from source ,but if you late me know why it the best ,i will change may mind "maybe".
[08:35] <crimsun> adriyel: then you need to make at least the following adjustment: amixer sset 'IEC958' off
[08:35] <adriyel> should duplicate front be on?
[08:36] <crimsun> adriyel: that's up to you, it's not that important currently
[08:36] <phiber-optic> does any knows how to change the default web page in mozilla when its on the starter panel gdesklet?
[08:36] <adriyel> should jack mode be independent or shared?
[08:36] <foxiness> Toma-, am on the way :)
[08:36] <sethk> foxiness, johndarkhorse, you lose the automatic handling of dependencies, but you are guaranteed that what you have is correctly compiled for your environment
[08:36] <Toma-> foxiness: cool :D
[08:36] <crimsun> adriyel: you probably want shared, but it, too, isn't critical now
[08:37] <adriyel> crimsun, ok, what next?
[08:37] <crimsun> adriyel: aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[08:37] <Toma-> you can also get the source or whatever you compiled to be regsitered into your apt-get database, with the "checkinstall" command instead of make install
[08:37] <kestasworkacc> yeah all these compiled packages, you never know whether or not thyell work in your environment
[08:38] <adriyel> played on 2 channels crimsun
[08:38] <adriyel> well, 2.1 anyways
[08:38] <crimsun> adriyel: which, LFE? Center?
[08:38] <adriyel> the front speakers, left and right ones
[08:38] <adriyel> the stereo default ones
[08:39] <johndarkhorse> foxiness: if there is a deb-src URL you can have your local apt-get build the thing locally for you.
[08:39] <adriyel> Playing WAVE '/usr/share/sounds/startup.wav' : Signed 16 bit Little Endian, Rate 44100 Hz, Stereo
[08:39] <adriyel> it says that after playing aplay crimsun, its playing in stereo
[08:39] <Toma-> johndarkhorse: the ubuntu deb works fine for breezy... i built it for the amsn team myself..
[08:39] <whatwhat> good morning
[08:39] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: ah, great!
[08:40] <Toma-> ;)
[08:40] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, sec
[08:40] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: i built the one for the amsn ppc :)
[08:40] <phiber-optic> does anybody know what is the default firefox starting page??
[08:40] <Toma-> :P
[08:40] <adriyel> what does endianness have to do with wav playback? meh, audio binary.
[08:41] <adriyel> phiber-optic, edit preferences in mozilla firefox
[08:41] <Toma-> !mythtv
[08:41] <ubotu> well, mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[08:41] <phiber-optic> yeah I know but I want to recover the old ones
[08:42] <crimsun> adriyel: do you get the same result with -Dsurround40 and -Dsurround51 ?
[08:42] <adriyel> testing
[08:42] <timfrost> phiber-optic, on breezy, file:///usr/share/ubuntu-artwork/home/index.html
[08:43] <adriyel> crimsun, near as I can tell, yeah
[08:44] <adriyel> crimsun, issue I see is that aplay isn't attempting to play surround, it keeps showing stereo when it plays something back
[08:44] <adriyel> thats just one issue...
[08:44] <adriyel> totem has same behavior though, and it is set to 5.1
[08:44] <GeorgeAScott> hey guys
[08:44] <thisplayer> hello
[08:45] <phiber-optic> what is the command to copy a directory?
[08:45] <adriyel> cp
[08:45] <GeorgeAScott> i did get access to my other drive earlier... but i still can't get the mp3s on it to play
[08:45] <Daemonic> is there any way to allow ssh access to my ubuntu when booted off the livecd? (amd64 livecd)
[08:45] <adriyel> ubotu tell GeorgeAScott about restricted formats
[08:46] <johndarkhorse> Daemonic: use apt-get to install 'ssh' pkg
[08:46] <thisplayer> anybody know how to make the ls color scheme through ssh? i've tried editting the .bashrc and even the ~/.ssh/rc...whenever i ssh in, the only time i can get colored ls is if i run $bash
[08:46] <yshsu168> Does anyone have suggest about driving winbond 6992 based ISDN PCI card in Breezy???
[08:46] <adriyel> yay, a winmodem.
[08:47] <crimsun> adriyel: do you have Xine installed?
[08:47] <phiber-optic> I get the following error
[08:47] <crimsun> either totem-xine or xine-ui
[08:47] <phiber-optic> cp: omitting directory `Winamp5-XMMS/'
[08:47] <adriyel> no, not atm
[08:47] <adriyel> its not in the repos either :|
[08:47] <GeorgeAScott> this file is not an audio stream
[08:48] <crimsun> !info totem-xine
[08:48] <ubotu> totem-xine: (A simple media player for the Gnome desktop based on xine), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 776 kB, Installed size: 4492 kB
[08:48] <GeorgeAScott> and im not either for that matter
[08:48] <crimsun> !info xine-ui
[08:48] <ubotu> xine-ui: (the xine video player, user interface), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.99.3-1ubuntu5 (breezy), Packaged size: 1680 kB, Installed size: 3416 kB
[08:48] <phiber-optic> adriyel I cant copy a folder
[08:48] <adriyel> its installing
[08:48] <adriyel> phiber-optic, is it restricted, or are you forgetting to copy recursively?
[08:49] <adriyel> crimsun, fired up xine
[08:49] <phiber-optic> I dont think its restricted
[08:49] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell phiber-optic about cli
[08:49] <adriyel> what am I doing? already set sound to 5.1
[08:49] <crimsun> adriyel: does a test result in the same plain stereo?
[08:49] <thisplayer>  anybody know how to make the ls color scheme through ssh? i've tried editting the .bashrc and even the ~/.ssh/rc...whenever i ssh in, the only time i can get colored ls is if i run $bash
[08:50] <adriyel> hold on
[08:50] <GeorgeAScott> ok... so in my fstab i need to set files on that drive to be executable?
[08:50] <Sp4rKy> hi everybody
[08:50] <timfrost> phiber-optic, cp -r
[08:50] <phiber-optic> ok
[08:50] <phiber-optic> thanx
[08:50] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah
[08:50] <phiber-optic> i was missing -r
[08:50] <adriyel> played an Mp3, got stereo
[08:50] <phiber-optic> I forgot it
[08:50] <phiber-optic> my bad
[08:51] <phiber-optic> Im off...
[08:51] <phiber-optic> Everyone good nite
[08:51] <GeorgeAScott> g'nite
[08:51] <adriyel> phiber-optic, told you to copy recursively
[08:51] <adriyel>  :|
[08:51] <phiber-optic> sorry adriyel
[08:51] <phiber-optic> ;)
[08:51] <robotgeek> thisplayer: look at your .bashrc and put in your .bashrc on the ssh server
[08:52] <adriyel> its cool
[08:52] <thisplayer> robotgeek: not sure i exactly follow you
[08:52] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah, just stereo under xine
[08:52] <Sp4rKy> i search anyone to make better my english
[08:52] <robotgeek> thisplayer: in your ubuntu, you should have a file ~/.bashrc
[08:52] <thisplayer> robotgeek: correct
[08:52] <Sp4rKy> talking with him/her with mail
[08:53] <robotgeek> it has options related to colors, just put those lines in your .bashrc on the ssh server
[08:53] <crimsun> adriyel: what options do you have for 'Channel Mode'?
[08:53] <thisplayer> robotgeek: are you referring to the alias?
[08:53] <robotgeek> thisplayer: http://pastebin.com/507870
[08:54] <katie^> katie@Mistress:~/Desktop$ wine Firefox\ Setup\ 1.5.exe...The program must close to allow a previous installation attempt to complete.  Please restart. < how do i make firefox run with wine?
[08:54] <robotgeek> katie^: wow, just when i tht i had seen it all :)
[08:54] <cafuego> katie^: maybe a stupid question, but why not just firefox for Linux?
[08:54] <Burgundavia> katie^, do you need firefox to run under wine? can you not run it natively?
[08:55] <adriyel> crimsun, surround 5.1 is available and selected
[08:55] <GeorgeAScott> oh wow... that was so easy....
[08:55] <robertbb> Gah. Sorry. Brb.
[08:55] <crimsun> adriyel: sorry, I meant through amixer or alsamixer for the 'Channel Mode' "element"
[08:55] <katie^> Because, I want to play a game with shockwave
[08:55] <GeorgeAScott> now how do i convert the crap load of wma's to mp3... they're not protected
[08:55] <adriyel> crimsun, 6 channel is selected
[08:56] <cafuego> katie^: AH, fair enough :-)
[08:56] <katie^> Thanks, don't worry, I'm not a complete idiot.
[08:56] <thisplayer> robotgeek: should i paste this into the .ssh/rc file..?
[08:56] <robotgeek> thisplayer: shud work
[08:56] <Burgundavia> GeorgeAScott, I wouldn't do that, as both WMA and MP3 are lossy and thus you are going to lose partiy
[08:56] <fishfillet> katie: why firefox if ur talking about shockwave...
[08:56] <robotgeek> GeorgeAScott: http://blogs.linux.ie/xeer/2005/08/16/how-to-convert-from-wma-to-mp3/
[08:56] <fishfillet> y dont u install Internet Explorer instead?
[08:57] <GeorgeAScott> well is there a prog in ubunto that plays wma?
[08:57] <katie^> why not firefox? I guess i can do it with IE, but ive already tried installing firefox
[08:57] <katie^> and don't particularly like IE
[08:57] <katie^> lol
[08:57] <blue-frog> GeorgeAScott, vlc
[08:57] <adriyel> ubotu tell GeorgeAScott about restricted formats
[08:57] <robotgeek> GeorgeAScott: i guess beep-media-player has a plugin too
[08:57] <adriyel> I am not telling you again GeorgeAScott, your answers have been sent to you
[08:57] <Burgundavia> GeorgeAScott, wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[08:58] <adriyel> Burgundavia, way ahead of you twice-fold
[08:58] <adriyel> I've told him to go there twice now
[08:58] <thisplayer> robotgeek: hmm..still not working, pasted your code into both .bashrc and .ssh/rc
[08:58] <robotgeek> GeorgeAScott: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79539
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> oh sorry... i didn't see it up there////
[08:58] <GeorgeAScott> please don't yell..
[08:58] <crimsun> adriyel: hmm, what's your audio line from ``lspci -v |grep -i audio'' ?
[08:59] <adriyel> sigh, its alright
[08:59] <adriyel> 0000:00:04.0 Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 0059 (rev a2)
[08:59] <thisplayer> is .ssh/rc the correct file to edit for ssh startup script?
[08:59] <adriyel> NVIDIA AC 97...
[08:59] <robotgeek> thisplayer: hmm, type "ls --color=auto -l"
[09:01] <robotgeek> thisplayer: also "echo $TERM" on the ssh server
[09:01] <thisplayer> robotgeek: beginning or end for $TERM..?
[09:01] <katie^> well, how do i run ANY program with wine? I mean, im stuck :(
[09:01] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, in the output of ``lspci -nv'', what is the Subsystem line below ``lspci -nv |grep 0401''?
[09:01] <Burgundavia> katie^, #winehq might be able to help you more
[09:02] <robotgeek> thisplayer: just type those in, not in any .rc file
[09:02] <katie^> Thanks
[09:02] <SperMite> how would install a file like this: et-linux-2.60.x86.run ?
[09:02] <thisplayer> oo..
[09:02] <thisplayer> xterm
[09:03] <thisplayer> robotgeek: that means i should be editting an xtermrc correct?
[09:03] <robotgeek> thisplayer: maybe you need to use xterm color, i am not sure
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: looks like a regular binary
[09:04] <thisplayer> robotgeek: any idea how to switch from xterm to bash at startup?
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: chmod 700 et-..; ./et-..
[09:04] <sethk> thisplayer, that makes no sense.  xterm is a terminal emulation program.  bash is a shell.
[09:04] <kestasworkacc> SperMite: for future reference you can check this with the file command
[09:05] <sethk> thisplayer, almost certainly you are running bash within an xterm.
[09:05] <adriyel> 0000:00:04.0 0401: 10de:0059 (rev a2)
[09:05] <adriyel> sorry for delay crimsun
[09:05] <robotgeek> thisplayer: i think it only depends on your settings in the bashrc on the server. settings will apply when you login again :)
[09:05] <crimsun> adriyel: np, sec
[09:06] <thisplayer> sethk: oo..i see..
[09:06] <thisplayer> so would you happen to know why when i type bash after i've logged in through ssh, everything works fine?
[09:06] <SperMite> kestasworkac ok thanks man
[09:06] <TraceGreen> adriyel, what's your problem?
[09:06] <TraceGreen> adriyel, sound ?
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, because your initial shell is a login shell, and the next shell is a non-login shell, and they use different configuration files
[09:06] <robotgeek> thisplayer: maybe "echo $SHELL"
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, login shells use .bash_login, other shells use .bashrc
[09:06] <YeTr2> getting an apt-get error, apt-get: relocation error: /usr/lib/libapt-pkg-libc6.3-6.so.3.10: symbol _ZSt5flushIcSt11char_traitsIcEERSt13basic_ostreamIT_P0_ES6_, version GLIBCXX_3.4 not defined in file libstdc++.so.6 with link time reference
[09:06] <sethk> thisplayer, there are some other files but those are the most common
[09:07] <robotgeek> sethk: maybe the default shell is not bash too
[09:07] <sethk> thisplayer, what I always do is source .bashrc in .bash_profile, (or v.v, it doesn't matter)
[09:07] <adriyel> TraceGreen, yeah, surround sound not working] 
[09:07] <sethk> robotgeek, highly unlikely.  I change my default shell, but new users don't
[09:07] <robotgeek> sethk: it's on a different server , maybe they are not using bash?
[09:08] <crimsun> adriyel: to reiterate, you're not hearing anything in the rear channels, correct?
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, sure, that's possible
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, I didn't realize it was a different machine
[09:08] <thisplayer> "echo $SHELL" returns /bin/bash
[09:08] <thisplayer> wierd
[09:08] <sethk> robotgeek, it is easy enough to find out, just do  echo $SHELL
[09:08] <TraceGreen> adriyel, you may try to use alsamixer and have a look
[09:08] <sethk> thisplayer, not weird at all.  as I said, the login shell sources different config files.  This is a very very common problem/question
[09:09] <sethk> thisplayer, you can validate it by using the flag that tells bash to act like a login shell, even if it isn't
[09:09] <adriyel> crimsun, yeah
[09:09] <thisplayer> sethk: how would i do this?
[09:09] <adriyel> TraceGreen, way way way ahead of you mate
[09:09] <robotgeek> sethk: good info there
[09:09] <sethk> thisplayer, let me check the man page
[09:10] <sethk> thisplayer, in man bash, you'll find a section INVOCATION, that has some good details about how all of this works
[09:10] <Toma-> the standard ubuntu packages for mythtv arny broken are they? or is it just my system...
[09:10] <sethk> thisplayer, I believe the -l flag tells bash to act as a login shell
[09:10] <TraceGreen> adriyel, what do you mean ? i am not good at english.
[09:10] <robotgeek> thisplayer: http://pastebin.com/507880 in your .bash_profile
[09:10] <crimsun> adriyel: I can't locate the data sheet for 10de:0059, but on some chipsets the line-in and mic elements can be unmuted to toggle LFE and Center channels
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, the basic idea is sound; there are things that you want to do at least once, that are somewhat inefficient to do each time you start a child shell
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, also it insulates child shells from certain things (such as the DISPLAY variable, which can be inherited, and thus only has to be set correctly in one place).
[09:11] <Locke> what does the command line on the task bar do?
[09:11] <sethk> thisplayer, the treatment of DISPLAY when using ssh -X is a good example
[09:12] <Locke> nevermind
[09:12] <robotgeek> Locke: :)
[09:12] <Locke> robotgeek: i've tired like 10 commands and nothing happened and then i typed in a program, lol
[09:12] <thisplayer> robotgeek: that worked
[09:12] <adriyel> crimsun, which means I should do what to get my surround working?
[09:12] <robotgeek> thisplayer: i copied it from ubuntu's .bash_profile , lol
[09:13] <crimsun> adriyel: try unmuting 'Line' and 'Mic'
[09:13] <thisplayer> robotgeek: didnt think to use that..i was wierded out by how i couldnt find it...
[09:13] <thisplayer> sethk: ended up creating a .bash_profile, that seemed to do the trick. thanks for your help
[09:13] <thisplayer> robotgeek: thanks for you help
[09:13] <sethk> thisplayer, the paths can be confusing.  the shell looks for certain files in the home directory, then in /etc if they aren't there in /home
[09:14] <sethk> thisplayer, good, glad you were able to fix it.
[09:14] <robotgeek> thisplayer: sure, anytime
[09:14] <crimsun> adriyel: because there's no public documentation (nor do I have the data sheets for your device), I can only suggest what might work. Not having pin-outs can be a pain.
[09:14] <gerald-volt> what's that voice chat program called
[09:14] <gerald-volt> something like synapticis or something
[09:14] <adriyel> crimsun, I am not getting any audio playback
[09:14] <adriyel> wt.f
[09:14] <Toma-> gerald-volt: skype ?
[09:14] <sethk> gerald-volt, that sounds like a disease
[09:14] <gerald-volt> that's it
[09:14] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, that helps. Mute those both again.
[09:14] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell gerald-volt about skype
[09:14] <adriyel> crimsun, no no
[09:14] <adriyel> aplay doesn't work
[09:15] <adriyel> ignore that tho
[09:15] <adriyel> totem did work
[09:15] <adriyel> but its still stereo
[09:15] <gerald-volt> thankyouk, you guys are so kind
[09:15] <adriyel> what do you think?
[09:15] <adriyel> aplay works now
[09:15] <adriyel> still stereo
[09:15] <SperMite> how you install cedega ./configure?
[09:15] <adriyel> remute the line in and mic then?
[09:15] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, good. Yes, go ahead and mute them both.
[09:15] <robotgeek> crimsun: how about a quick troubleshooting guide for folks like us? to help ppl when you are not around?
[09:15] <adriyel> crimsun, done
[09:16] <gerald-volt> adriyel, the cvs version?
[09:16] <crimsun> robotgeek: blissex has a good one at http://www.sabi.co.uk/Notes/linuxSoundALSA.html
[09:16] <adriyel> muted
[09:16] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, now you will need to construct a custom pcm definition using ~/.asoundrc to define the proper routing of the 2-channels to 4
[09:16] <gerald-volt> SperMite, the cvs cresion?
[09:16] <Toma-> SperMite: what version? should just read the documentation they give you
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: basically this is what some cards do with a 'duplicate front' toggle
[09:17] <SperMite> dpkg -i =)
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: unfortunately yours doesn't appear to toggle the correct register (ugh)
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: so...
[09:17] <gerald-volt> anyone know why I don't get any sound in gaim/
[09:17] <crimsun> adriyel: browse over to http://www.sabi.co.uk/Cfg/ALSA/asound.conf
[09:17] <robotgeek> crimsun: good, thanks. i guess it will be good to debug
[09:18] <adriyel> ok
[09:18] <crimsun> adriyel: about 3/5ths down the page, there's a section for "STEREO to 4 or 5.1"
[09:18] <adriyel> done
[09:18] <vladuz976> what's the executable to start gnome
[09:18] <adriyel> done
[09:18] <mjr> vladuz976, gnome-session
[09:18] <bharath> perl module install problem: cpan> install Net::Packet gives the following error "*** Cannot find pcap-int.h . Get it from your installed libpcap source distribution and copy it to: [/usr/include]  (near pcap.h)"
[09:18] <Toma-> bloody meta packages :/
[09:18] <adriyel> should I just check duplicate front in volume control?
[09:18] <vladuz976> mjr: thanks
[09:18] <adriyel> will this give me the same effect?
[09:18] <adriyel> or will this give me real surround?
[09:18] <crimsun> adriyel: you want to lift the pcm.stereo0-51 {} and ctl.stereo0-51 {} definitions and drop them into your ~/.asoundrc
[09:19] <kestasworkacc> are you guys still trying to get 5.1 working? :o
[09:19] <adriyel> just append them to the bottom of the rc?
[09:19] <crimsun> adriyel: it will be a simulation identical to what the original 'duplicate front' would have done
[09:19] <adriyel> kestasworkacc, yes
[09:19] <kestasworkacc> damn
[09:19] <crimsun> adriyel: yes, that's fine
[09:19] <adriyel> crimsun, duplicate front does that... :|
[09:19] <adriyel> it turns on rear sound
[09:20] <mcdenyer> is there a linux version of itunes
[09:20] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: why do you need itunes? to buy music?
[09:20] <adriyel> done
[09:20] <adriyel> I think
[09:20] <adriyel> asoundrc was empty though
[09:20] <crimsun> adriyel: uh...I thought you said having it unmuted /doesn't/ give you sound in the rear speakers
[09:20] <mcdenyer> robotgeek no to manage my ipod
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: i think gtk-pod does that
[09:21] <adriyel> crimsun, I get audio in rear speakers with duplicate front, without I don't
[09:21] <adriyel> no sound in center no matter what
[09:21] <adriyel> duplicate front != surround
[09:21] <mcdenyer> robotgeek is it very hard to install?
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: and use pymusique to buy music
[09:21] <adriyel> its stereo copied across multiple speakers
[09:21] <crimsun> adriyel: argh, I thought you meant you /never/ got sound in the rear
[09:21] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: no, install it from synpatic.
[09:21] <crimsun> adriyel: next time please specify that, thanks
[09:22] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, now to debug your Center and LFE issue
[09:22] <cafuego> crud
[09:22] <adriyel> crimsun, um, totem doesn't startup now that I've edited the asoundrc
[09:22] <adriyel> please continue with the center channel issue tho
[09:22] <cafuego> Does anyone here have a copy of the linux-headers-2.6.15-9 pqackage laying about?
[09:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about repos
[09:23] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: you will need to enable universe, and then install "gtkpod"
[09:23] <mcdenyer> robotgeek i searched for it in gtk-pod and couldnt find it
[09:23] <crimsun> adriyel: that's correct.
[09:23] <thisplayer> !repos
[09:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[09:23] <mcdenyer> robotgeek ive already enabled that
[09:24] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: the program's name is gtkpod, not gtk-pod. sorry
[09:24] <crimsun> adriyel: what you need to do is replace slave.pcm "dmix0-51" in the pcm.stereo0-51 {} definition with: slave.pcm "hw:0"
[09:24] <mcdenyer> robotgeekoh ok
[09:26] <mcdenyer> robotgeek cool installed it thanks alot
[09:26] <adriyel> crimsun, totem still doesn't start up
[09:26] <adriyel> screw it man, thanks for your help, but its 3:30 in the morning, and this isn't worth it to me
[09:26] <mcdenyer> robotgeek now i just need to get my music files from my ntfs partition
[09:26] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: cool, i don't own an ipod, so i dunno what to do next :)
[09:26] <crimsun> adriyel: that's fine for now, you need to test pcm.stereo0-51 {} in aplay
[09:26] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about ntfs
[09:27] <crimsun> adriyel: aplay -Dplug:stereo0-51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[09:27] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: read the link which ubotu pmed you
[09:27] <adriyel> its giving me crap about the formatting in the asoundrc crimsun
[09:27] <crimsun> adriyel: yeah, I realise that, too. It's 3:30 AM; I've driven on the interstate all day, and I have a meeting in 7.5 hours.
[09:27] <adriyel> thanks for your help man, but I am giving up
[09:28] <crimsun> adriyel: ok, ping me later this evening.
[09:28] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer: http://ubuntuguide.org/#mountunmountntfs
[09:28] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about ntfs
[09:28] <robotgeek> !ubuntuguide
[09:28] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[09:28] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Abecedarian about ntfs
[09:28] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  My first time using Ubuntu I had EXACTLY the same question.
[09:29] <johndarkhorse> Abecedarian: read what ubotu wrote please
[09:29] <adriyel> I'll just dupe front for now crimsun and sacrifice the center
[09:29] <Abecedarian> *lol*
[09:29] <mcdenyer> abecedarian this is my first day\
[09:29] <mcdenyer> i read the tut but i cant follow it cuase im newb lol
[09:29] <Abecedarian> johndarkhorse:  Okay, hadn't realized...  The Guide seemed official enough.
[09:30] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[09:30] <robotgeek> mcdenyer: use the script to do the job for you :)
[09:31] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  I wasn't saying "read the guide".  I was giving you a link to the exact spot where it talks about it...  It is a big piece of work, and I haven't read it yet either.
[09:31] <jrattner1> Has anyone expierence problems with the new amarok install?
[09:31] <Abecedarian> mcdenyer:  Besides, my second question ever after using Ubuntu was "how do I mount FAT32" which is relatively close by.  :)
[09:31] <robotgeek> jrattner1: i think they were having some issues with the lyrics display
[09:32] <mcdenyer> i did it :)
[09:32] <mcdenyer> nowthat ive mounted it what do i do?
[09:32] <johndarkhorse> Abecedarian: the script that ubotu mentions or that robotgeek sent has a script to mount all those things
[09:32] <jrattner1> notsteve, i mean when i start amarok i get an error
[09:33] <adriyel> alright everybody, I am gonna hit the sack
[09:33] <adriyel> I needs my sleep
[09:33] <sethk> mcdenyer, you don't know why you wanted to mount it?
[09:34] <Abecedarian> johndarkhorse:  Okay, was just trying to help.  I'm very new to this as well, and figured that the least I could do was point out to others paths that have worked for me in the past.  I probably should figure out the full list of ubotu commands first though, I guess.
[09:34] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Abecedarian about yourself
[09:34] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: beat me to it :)
[09:35] <mcdenyer> sethk yeah i do i was asking how i acess it now that ive mounted it
[09:35] <Abecedarian> Okay, now how does that little bugger know about my crack and ritalin addictions?
[09:35] <mcdenyer> sethk but i figured it out nad am notw on my way
[09:35] <sethk> mcdenyer, ok
[09:36] <mcdenyer> people i am so confused about how the folder system works on ubutuntu does anyone know of like a tree diagram i could look at?
[09:36] <Adross> is there a screensaver installed that acts as a newsreader for an rss or atom newsfeed?
[09:37] <mcdenyer> i need a app that reads itunes format music
[09:38] <Adross> mcdenyer: search the wiki for aac
[09:38] <mcdenyer> a app that read m4a
[09:38] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about restrictedformats
[09:38] <ReverendNathan> Doesn't xine and xmms read m4a?
[09:38] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: you need to install gstreamer0.8-faac and -faad
[09:38] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: then any music player 'should' play them
[09:38] <Abecedarian> ubotu listvals server
[09:38] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'server' by value (15 shown; 19 total): server ;; esd ;; register ;; vesa ;; udev ;; apache ;; webmin ;; ftp ;; lamp ;; portforward ;; xcfg ;; openssh ;; ltsp ;; neomagic ;; nfs.
[09:39] <robotgeek> !msgthebot
[09:39] <ReverendNathan> So, I was wondering if there was a reason to veer away from amaroK. I really like it, but it does crash. Is beep or any other player recomended over it?
[09:40] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse woops i did -maf
[09:40] <robotgeek> ReverendNathan: other than the crashing part, it's perfect
[09:40] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse i mean -mad instaed of faac
[09:40] <ReverendNathan> Werd
[09:41] <Adross> ubotu women
[09:41] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, women is Read http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Encourage-Women-Linux-HOWTO/ to learn how to act, mister!
[09:41] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: -mad allows you to play mp3
[09:41] <ReverendNathan> I just think a lot of the KDE stuff is too overdone; too much focus on the graphics than the core. Everything has a K and is ugly. But amaroK does good.
[09:41] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok ill do faac now
[09:41] <robotgeek> ReverendNathan: no flame war please :)
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> Oh my bad
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> I forgot there is a Kubuntu
[09:42] <ReverendNathan> :-o
[09:43] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok now how do i open gstreamer
[09:44] <gerald-volt> how do I start my hp printer
[09:45] <mcdenyer> what do u guys sugest for playing music/
[09:45] <mcdenyer> ?
[09:45] <mcdenyer> whats the best player?
[09:45] <anderson> hello,anyone using D4X
[09:45] <ReverendNathan> As I just said, amaroL
[09:45] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: there are dozens, the one that is best is the one you like
[09:45] <ReverendNathan> Beep is alot like Winmamp
[09:46] <anderson> I want to re-set another font of D4X,how can I do it
[09:46] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse well whats one that alot of people use
[09:46] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse i dont know of any
[09:46] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: rhythmbox is default
[09:47] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: if you want a lot of features, use amaroK. If you want something small, use rythtmbox or beep
[09:47] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about multimedia
[09:47] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: more info from the bot, read and enjoy
[09:47] <gerald-volt> how do I start my hp printer?
[09:47] <mcdenyer> any good media players that can also manage ipod
[09:48] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: I know amaroK does it pretty simply
[09:48] <prada> mcdenyer: banshee looks good , still unstable though
[09:49] <mcdenyer> when i search for amarkok in synaptic there are tons of different ones i can use
[09:49] <mcdenyer> which one should i geT?
[09:49] <johndarkhorse> mcdenyer: read the wiki page ubotu sent you the link for
[09:50] <anderson> How can I re-configure the font setting of a X app lick D4X
[09:50] <ReverendNathan> mcdenyer: I installed it from 'add applications' because you need more than one of those files. It will just make it easier.
[09:50] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse ok
[09:50] <anderson> D4X has no setting window to set font
[09:50] <GeorgeAScott> btw.. thanks to whoever it was earlier who sent me this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:51] <GeorgeAScott> even though you were yelling at me cause my speakers were muted and i didn't know you sent it to me
[09:51] <ejofee> is akregator the best newsreader? if not, please tell me which one's best
[09:51] <robotgeek> ejofee: akregator is very nice, though i use liferea on gnome
[09:52] <gerald-volt> how do I start my printer?
[09:52] <ejofee> robotgeek: do you think liferea is better?
[09:53] <robotgeek> ejofee: not really, it goes nicer with konqueror, makes no difference with firefox. though, akregator has slightly more features. regarding archiving
[09:54] <ejofee> robotgeek: i see. thanks.
[09:55] <hawking> does anyone know some torrent apps with proxy support?
[09:55] <ardchoille> anyone know how to take a screenshot of tty1?
[09:55] <mcdenyer> amarok seems pretty cool'
[09:57] <gerald-volt> what's that gnome-printer setting command ?
[09:57] <gerald-volt> for setting up the printer
[09:57] <siimo> hi is there a seperate channel for 64bit
[09:57] <mjr> siimo, no
[09:58] <siimo> ok i was just wondering if i have to manually set up a 32bit system to run openoffice etc if i install breezy 64bit or will it already do it for me
[09:58] <siimo> or does it not include openoffice
[09:58] <robotgeek> siimo: ubuntu 64 bit version already has all those apps
[09:59] <siimo> oh ok
[10:00] <mjr> the 64-bit version has some limited 32-bit support spesifically for openoffice and such
[10:00] <siimo> sounds nice
[10:01] <saintiss> hi
[10:01] <DeFaNe> hello
[10:01] <GNU32> hi
[10:01] <saintiss> I'm trying to bring an ubuntu client online via masquerading (iptables) on a debian server. However, I can't get it to...
[10:01] <saintiss> the rules should be ok, since I've used them before
[10:02] <saintiss> the client is 192.168.0.2
[10:02] <saintiss> the server 0.1
[10:02] <saintiss> the server is set as gateway on the client
[10:02] <saintiss> however, when I do "route" on the client, it takes about 10 seconds for it to display the line with 0.1 as gateway
[10:02] <saintiss> what could cause this delay?
[10:02] <saintiss> I figure it could lead me to the source of the problem
[10:02] <dooglus> saintiss: you might want to ask in #iptables
[10:03] <SillyZ> morning, quick question... on shutdown of ubuntu its resetting the time to UTC not localtime... where to change this?
[10:03] <saintiss> dooglus, ok, so you are saying nothing can be wrong except the rules?
[10:04] <cyphase> is the Totem plugin going to Just Work in Dapper?
[10:04] <dooglus> saintiss: no, I'm saying you'll probably get more help there.
[10:04] <dooglus> saintiss: we mostly help people get their video players working here :)
[10:04] <liable> saintiss: its not unusual for route to take a while to bring up the table
[10:04] <saintiss> dooglus, ic :)
[10:05] <saintiss> liable, is it? I never really experienced that before...
[10:05] <dooglus> I've seen the 'route' command be very slow when something was wrong with the setup
[10:05] <saintiss> exactly
[10:05] <liable> saintiss: well, i have, and there isnt anything wrong with my network.
[10:05] <SillyZ> where can I change when the system shutsdown that it sets the time to localtime not gmt / utc ?
[10:06] <dooglus> liable: other than the route command taking too long.
[10:06] <liable> yes
[10:06] <dooglus> SillyZ: /etc/default/rcS
[10:07] <SillyZ> thanks dooglus
[10:07] <saintiss> liable, ok, so maybe route is not the problem, still the point is the masquerading doesn't seem to do its job
[10:07] <SillyZ> just set utc=no and that should do it ?
[10:08] <dooglus> SillyZ: case matters, but other than that, yes
[10:09] <SillyZ> all the answers appeared in lowercase so I stuck with lowercase
[10:09] <SillyZ> UTC=no  was the complete line
[10:09] <vega-> anyone managed to install plugins in eclipse?
[10:10] <vega-> i think there's a fundamental problem in the eclipse installation of ubuntu, it's not possible to install plugins because only root has write access to the eclipse directory
[10:10] <liable> saintiss: dunno, i never used iptables directly, when i did it i used shorewall. i am an iptables tard (too lazy to bother with all the individual rules)
[10:10] <theconartist> how do i get ubuntu to detect when i am using headphones?
[10:10] <theconartist> the option that is normal in volume control to detect it is not there
[10:11] <SillyZ> thanks again dooglus
[10:11] <dooglus> np
[10:12] <theconartist> does nobody know?
[10:12] <saintiss> liable, heh, the first time I did it, I never heard of shorewall, so since then I just stuck with iptables
[10:12] <GNU32> yay, I have a teamspeak server up! I'm connected to it now :)
[10:12] <stevr1it> hi, need help for skype. I have installed it, and chat works perfectly but the sound starts ok and after a wile begin a awful noise. what can i do to improve it?
[10:14] <Steil> This isn't really ubuntu specific, but is there a way to find out if theres a diskspace quota imposed on your account?
[10:16] <joachim-n> anyone know anything about setting up jhbuild?
[10:17] <GNU32> stevrlit: I hear a voice that is totally different to my own when I speak into mics. Perhaps you have a similar problem?
[10:17] <GNU32> whoa! poor ubotu
[10:17] <tsw> Steil: quota without parameters tells quota for the user you are logged in
[10:19] <tsw> GNU32: thats normal human physiology, when you say something out loud you hear the same voice through your bones, but when you hear your recorded voice it sounds different to you
[10:20] <theconartist> somebody please?!
[10:20] <tsw> theconartist: no idea? maybe your soundcard doesnt support it?
[10:22] <theconartist> has to
[10:22] <Steil> tsw, -bash: quota: command not found
[10:22] <theconartist> i had it working in fbsd
[10:22] <bbbop> hello
[10:22] <tsw> Steil: then the box doesnt have quota or the command has been disabled by root
[10:22] <stevr1it> gnu 32
[10:22] <stevr1it> no i cannot hear anything
[10:23] <bbbop> how can i create a backup copy of a bootable windows cd? with cat or dd it only copies ~63 megabytes of it and then returns an i/o error
[10:23] <Steil> ahh okay
[10:23] <tsw> theconartist: which mixer are you using?
[10:23] <Steil> guess I should e-mail the admin and see what my webspace quota is
[10:23] <stevr1it> in my skype the voice is ust a brrrrrrrr noise
[10:23] <j2daosh> hey... question. if i setup a static route on my router to my linux box... does that mean all incoming traffic gets forwarded to my linux box... no other computer on the network will recieve data?
[10:23] <theconartist> tsw, alsamixer
[10:24] <stevr1it> any suggetsion?
[10:24] <tsw> Steil: its common to have different boxes to handle ssh logins and datastorage. the quota will then be on the datastorage box
[10:24] <theconartist> this is really painful :/
[10:24] <j2daosh> check ur sound by making a recording of it... if you can hear well its a setting in skype that is messed up
[10:25] <j2daosh> then go from there
[10:25] <theconartist> maybe i should just mutilate my speakers:/
[10:25] <stevr1it> i cannot my skype version seems an old one. how can i install a new one?
[10:25] <theconartist> poke paperclips through the holes
[10:25] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get update skype
[10:25] <j2daosh> ?
[10:25] <stevr1it> I try
[10:26] <j2daosh> not sure if the update will work... if it dont just do a sudo apt-get install skype
[10:26] <robotgeek> stevr1it: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/
[10:26] <j2daosh> it should find a newwer one if available
[10:26] <Steil> tsw, yeah the storage is on a network drive
[10:26] <Steil> Thanks though :)
[10:27] <stevr1it> it says error code 1
[10:27] <tsw> theconartist: hmm what soundcard?
[10:27] <stevr1it> to me?
[10:27] <stevr1it> update does not work
[10:28] <stevr1it> my soud card is internal alsa
[10:29] <j2daosh> stevr1it, yeah i just looked the ap-tget wont work... u will have to dl skype from the website
[10:29] <j2daosh> www.skype.com
[10:29] <tsw> stevr1it: have you tried recording your voice with other software? does it work?
[10:29] <stevr1it> ok bye
[10:29] <stevr1it> yes
[10:29] <j2daosh> dl the package... before you set the new one up remove the old one
[10:29] <stevr1it> iwth other software it works
[10:30] <j2daosh> sudo apt-get remove skype
[10:30] <theconartist> tsw, lemme look
[10:31] <theconartist> tsw, alsamixer says Intel 82801CA-ICH3
[10:34] <AndrewLee> I just upgraded to dapper kernel(2.6.15-12-powerpc), I have problem on using bcm43xx module on ibook.
[10:34] <tsw> theconartist: sorry, no idea :/
[10:34] <AndrewLee> Seems it can't load the firmware correctly..
[10:35] <AndrewLee> I did fwcutter and put *.fw files into /lib/firmware
[10:35] <oldie> but a newbie.  Need help determining what version of breezy to install.  amd 64,  i386 ????
[10:35] <AndrewLee> but after ifconfig eth1 up, the dmesg told me: bcm43xx: Error: Microcode "bcm43xx_microcode5.fw" not available to load failed.
[10:35] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: did you extract them correctly? the forums page on that has pretty detailed explanation
[10:36] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: I think I did, I got an old version of ap driver from osx 10.3
[10:37] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: I got no error with fwcutter.
[10:37] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i got the firmware from someguy who linked to it, but it worked the first time for me
[10:37] <oldie> anyone know what I should download. I have Celeron  and not sure which breezy to download.  amd64, i386, etc
[10:38] <robotgeek> oldie: i386
[10:38] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Only the first time?
[10:38] <oldie> Thanks Robotgeek
[10:38] <oldie> I though so.  wasn't sure
[10:38] <oldie> you the best.
[10:38] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i mean right on the first attempt
[10:39] <pesco> Hi everyone, I'm looking for a program to browse a large set of photos (in fullscreen), somewhat like acdsee I guess; any quick suggestions before I start trying every image viewer there is?
[10:39] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Maybe I should try the linked firmware too, where is the link?
[10:39] <thisplayer> pesco: f-spot
[10:40] <skulltula> Anyone bored enough to help a n00b beautify his desktop?
[10:40] <thisplayer> pesco: thats more like a photo album....eye of gnome should be just, but if u need more...then get f-spot
[10:40] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: it's somewhere on the thread, just search that thread for link
[10:40] <elven_knight> hello, have you guy stumble upon sumthing like let say i want to get to irc.freenode.net. I typed /server irc.freenode.net. It said sumthing  like connecting to irc.freenode.net(1.0.0.0) <-- It can't resolve the ip, but if i ping the ip adress in the terminal it can connect. help pls.
[10:41] <thisplayer> skulltula: what are you thinking about doing?
[10:41] <pesco> thisplayer: With eog, I just couldn't figure out how to switch photos in slideshow mode and then it crashed on me...
[10:42] <skulltula> thisplayer: i wanna add a wallpaper, maybe make the themes cooler looking.
[10:42] <thisplayer> pesco: which ubuntu are you running?
[10:42] <pesco> thisplayer: breezy
[10:42] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: BTW, didn't you get error when using fwcutter with the linked driver?
[10:42] <thisplayer> skulltula: have u looked at gnome-look.org ..?
[10:42] <skulltula> i made the panels nice and small already... nah, i haven't.!
[10:43] <Irvine> how to share printer with windows?
[10:43] <thisplayer> pesco: eog sumtimes acts up...try reinstalling it through synaptic...
[10:43] <skulltula> haha, thanks thisplayer :] 
[10:43] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: i think that's the firmware itself
[10:43] <GeorgeAScott> er.... how do i get the back/forward buttons on my mouse to work
[10:43] <pesco> thisplayer: Hrm, dunno...
[10:44] <windowmaker> i got my friend to switch to ubuntu, but he dislikes gaim because it doesn't have "nudges" and "winks" and that other bloatful MSN junk, do any of you know how to get the official MSN messenger client working in wine with fast painting?
[10:44] <pesco> Hah! I'm trying _pornview_! A program of that name wins by default!
[10:44] <pesco> windowmaker: It doesn't have _what_?!
[10:44] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: Did you compile ieee80211softmac.ko yourself?
[10:45] <pesco> (sorry, I'm not being helpful, please just ignore me if looking for serious advice)
[10:45] <windowmaker> pesco: i know, i was confused too, i think these are some features that gaim doesn't have but msn do
[10:45] <windowmaker> msn messenger does***
[10:45] <Steil> windowmaker, you can suggest amsn, it has a similar look to the official client and it supports nudges. Winks would be pretty difficult to support on linux and msn doesn't play well with wine
[10:46] <Steil> amsn also supports webcams which gaim doesn't
[10:46] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: no, lemme pull up what i did
[10:46] <thisplayer> windowmaker: the newer versions of msn messenger and yahoo messenger use upto date windows binaries.....wine isnt that upto date...so these fancy features wont work...
[10:46] <GNU32> Steil: Gaim doesn't support webcams peiord.
[10:47] <windowmaker> Steil, i tried amsn, couldn't find nudges or anything close, i'll look again just in case
[10:47] <pesco> Does bitlbee support this stuff? *duck*
[10:47] <Steil> windowmaker, it's a plugin that should come by default. you just have to enable it
[10:47] <windowmaker> and amsn also tends to be a tad slow
[10:47] <windowmaker> okay
[10:47] <johndarkhorse> pesco: your humour only makes sense to those who know what bitlbee is, :0
[10:48] <Toma-> anyone installed a bios update before? ive got a .bin file... should i just dd it to a floppy disk?
[10:48] <Toma-> or, use wine to run the bios update utitlity...
[10:48] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: a bootable floppy, yes. grab an image from bootdisk.com
[10:48] <Toma-> ok thanx
[10:49] <GNU32> Toma-: I've seen a bios flasher around. You could boot into it and flash your bios file to the bios.
[10:49] <GeorgeAScott> i haven't figured out how to use wine yet...but a drink it pretty well
[10:49] <GeorgeAScott> and maybe that's why
[10:49] <GNU32> GeorgeAScott: It's not hard. Just wine windowsapp.exe
[10:50] <Toma-> aaaaaaaaah. i dont have a floppy drive. >.<
[10:50] <GNU32> Toma-: Whoops!
[10:50] <j2daosh> hey... got a quick favor to ask... can someone ssh to 66.191.145.50 and tell me if you get a prompt?
[10:50] <pesco> johndarkhorse: Right. But no joke is funny if you explain it...
[10:50] <windowmaker> okay, i will
[10:50] <GeorgeAScott> i don't even know if i installed the packages for it.... i think i started to, but i'm not sure if i finished it
[10:51] <windowmaker> j2daosh, it wants a password, so it's working
[10:51] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: PM
[10:51] <thisplayer> j2daosh: works
[10:51] <j2daosh> woot woot
[10:51] <j2daosh> maybe i will be able to get on from work again
[10:51] <AndrewLee> robotgeek: thanks
[10:51] <j2daosh> thanks for the help guys
[10:52] <robotgeek> AndrewLee: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=561220&postcount=37 ignore the softmac or whatever
[10:52] <Mady> I have a problem with automounting my usb-device; Ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1
[10:52] <Toma-> do you think if i mad a bootable cd, i could flash the bios?
[10:52] <Toma-> *made
[10:53] <windowmaker> Mady, edit your /etc/fstab
[10:53] <SillyZ> thanks again yall for all the help!     ubuntu rocks!
[10:53] <Mady> normaly I don't need an entry in the fstab
[10:54] <Mady> and there is no entry for /dev/sda nor /dev/sda1
[10:55] <km0ti0n> I am tryin gto install mono and mono develop but I can't find the package with apt-cache search
[10:55] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: Same error, I am thinking of the version of fwcutter I am using might be too old.
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> Toma-: it doesnt matter how you get there
[10:55] <km0ti0n> I have sortedf mono it's just the IDE I need
[10:55] <Toma-> hmm ok
[10:55] <Toma-> my sempron is running at 85oC :(
[10:55] <joachim-n> is it me or is the new bug tracker a bit useless?
[10:56] <Toma-> constantly locking up my system
[10:56] <Toma-> ive read it could be a bios problem
[10:56] <j2daosh> toma what is the issue?
[10:57] <bimberi> joachim-n: file a bug :P
[10:57] <Toma-> j2daosh: not much of an issue, just a cheap/terrible cpu. :( trying to figure out a way to get a bios update to happen without a floppy
[10:57] <joachim-n> I don't understand how to search bugs I have commented on or reported
[10:58] <j2daosh> u have a windows partition on that box?
[10:58] <Toma-> j2daosh: god no :)
[10:58] <j2daosh> lol
[10:58] <j2daosh> an sda?
[10:58] <Toma-> only usb
[10:59] <j2daosh> and i assume since you have an old bios it dont recognize a usb jump drive eh?
[10:59] <GeorgeAScott> mouse support help... please.... i'm to used to my forward and back buttons....
[10:59] <Toma-> j2daosh: doubt it
[10:59] <Toma-> ahhh ill tweak around for a while and see if i can get 20oc down
[10:59] <Toma-> thx, cyas
[11:00] <j2daosh> 20c? lol if he manages that ill be fairly impressed
[11:00] <j2daosh> and he will have to tell me his trick lol
[11:01] <j2daosh> hey PuMpErNiCkLe u from minnesota?
[11:01] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: My guess is correct, my AE works with the svn version of fwcutter, cool.
[11:01] <AndrewLee> robotgeek_zzz: Thank you very much. :)
[11:02] <skulltula> So now GNOME is prettier than XP :] 
[11:03] <jdkycdoc> hi everyone, since i installed the latest nvidia driver some days ago I have the problem that I can't see anything outside X, I mean that if I try ctrl+alt+f1 the screen goes blank, the same happens when turning off the computer, any help with this?
[11:03] <j2daosh> be back in a littl while.. need coffee and have to take a shower for work and all that god stuff
[11:04] <bimberi> joachim-n: yep, i can't see a way to do that either - and agree that it should
[11:04] <jahshu> hey all any idea why alt codes don't work for text in breezy?
[11:04] <joachim-n> I'll file a bug......
[11:05] <bimberi> joachim-n: against launchpad itself i guess :)
[11:06] <Toma-> what speed should a cpu fan be going at...
[11:06] <milestone> hi all
[11:07] <jdkycdoc> the same happens when turning off the computer... this is not a joke... i mean after stopping X and strictly before the power goes off.. hehe
[11:07] <milestone> is it possible to tell scp not to follow symlinks, but copy them as si
[11:07] <milestone> is
[11:07] <joachim-n> hmm launchpad isn't a listed component
[11:08] <bimberi> joachim-n: https://launchpad.net/products/launchpad/+bugs
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> nyea... the wine command is not found... must not have finished installing those packages eh
[11:08] <jahshu> hey all any idea why alt codes don't work for text in breezy?
[11:08] <GeorgeAScott> that and my stupidity combined... yay!
[11:09] <joachim-n> 'launchpad' isn't valid
[11:09] <allison_1984> can someone help me, I cannot read my flash drive ?
[11:09] <GeorgeAScott> don't hate me because i'm drinking burgandy and can't get wine to work..
[11:10] <joachim-n> gah
[11:11] <joachim-n> who on earth thought this crud was ready to take over from bugzilla?????
[11:11] <johndarkhorse> 411am
[11:13] <bimberi> joachim-n: "Report a bug" link on the right hand side of that page (my url above)?
[11:16] <Xnos> hi
[11:17] <Xnos> someone use giFT
[11:17] <Xnos> ??
[11:18] <corptix> hi when i boot on ubuntu it loads everything and then turns into a shell why?
[11:18] <xiaogil> Since I have used the command e2fsck to repare my hardrive, the partition /dev/hda5 is not mounted automatically, despite of the line "/dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ext3 defaults 0 2" in /etc/fstab. Also, it can be mounted manually without any problem. How to have it mounted automatically ?
[11:18] <corptix> sorry?
[11:19] <flogiston> hi
[11:19] <thisplayer> corptix: when u type ur username and password, click sessions and make sure you select gnome or kde...
[11:19] <flogiston> any java programmer in here?
[11:19] <corptix> no no
[11:19] <Mady> my usb-drive don't get mountet automaticaly because ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1
[11:19] <corptix> it asked for username password
[11:19] <corptix> then there isno sessions
[11:20] <corptix> just like a shell
[11:20] <thisplayer> so no X...just black and white..?
[11:20] <corptix> yes
[11:20] <thisplayer> your X may be misconfigured..
[11:21] <corptix> dude like i been using it for 2 weeks
[11:21] <corptix> and it was bootin fine until now
[11:21] <thisplayer> did u install or update recently..?
[11:21] <corptix> yeh sudo apt-get update
[11:23] <thisplayer> !dpkg-reconfigure
[11:23] <ubotu> No idea, thisplayer
[11:23] <corptix> =[
[11:24] <bimberi> !xorg
[11:24] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:24] <corptix> thisplayer ?
[11:24] <twilight> corptix, read /var/log/Xorg.0.log and/or ~/.xsession-errors, probably you will find the error(s)
[11:24] <corptix> also when i type startx it sayz connection refused.
[11:25] <corptix> how am i gonna read it ?
[11:25] <Mady> my usb-drive don't get mountet automaticaly because ubuntu trys to mount /dev/sda insead of /dev/sda1, Anybody an idea?
[11:25] <thisplayer> corptix: there you go...wut ubotu mentioned..
[11:25] <twilight> corptix, is there a shell, right?use less (less /var/log/Xorg.0.log)
[11:25] <corptix> im new to linux
[11:25] <corptix> so its hard for to to understand
[11:25] <corptix> so what do u want me to do step bu step ?
[11:26] <corptix> *by
[11:26] <twilight> type that command in the same place where you type startx
[11:26] <corptix> this one "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:27] <thisplayer> corptix: type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:27] <DoctorRob21> hi, i am trying to get ubuntu to play wmvs, I can't figure out how to add the decoder
[11:27] <twilight> corptix, yes. but with "less <above files>" you will find the errors
[11:27] <ompaul> !tell DoctorRob21 about restricted
[11:27] <corptix> and how do i fix it ?
[11:28] <ompaul> DoctorRob21, have a look at that message from the bot it should help
[11:29] <twilight> corptix, read the files tells you the errors, you can fix errors with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:30] <DoctorRob21> oops sorry i missed that
[11:31] <corptix> man how am i gonna fix it if i dont know anything about it ?
[11:31] <Toma-> corptix: what needs fixing?
 this one "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[11:32] <kao> and what do you want to fix
[11:33] <corptix> ahh fuck it
[11:33] <ompaul> corptix, have you run that >> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg << command
[11:33] <corptix> yes i know
[11:33] <corptix> and how am i suppose to know the error
[11:33] <corptix> and how to fix it or save the edited file
[11:34] <ompaul> corptix, have you run the command, yes or no?
[11:34] <thisplayer> no....the reconfigure command runs a setup for your display..
[11:34] <corptix> why dont u say dat
[11:34] <thisplayer> think of it like a setup utility for windows...it installs the driver for you...it doesnt tell u whats wrong..
[11:34] <corptix> lol thanx
[11:34] <corptix> bbs
[11:34] <corptix> yeh yeh
[11:34] <corptix> thanx
[11:34] <thisplayer> impatient...
[11:34] <ompaul> corptix, also please leave the language out of it, and don't hit enter for punctuation
[11:35] <ompaul> ahh
[11:35] <ompaul> thisplayer, and back in with My Sound blahhh and network etc
[11:35] <Xnos> someone has troubles sharing folders on giFT-toxic... i have a big folder... but giFt doesnt share... any suggestions.....
[11:36] <thisplayer> ompaul: wuts wrong..?
[11:37] <ompaul> thisplayer, nothing here I was replying to your impatient... and suggesting what happens next
[11:38] <thisplayer> ha..true.
[11:38] <thisplayer> i'm sure we've all been there at one point or another
[11:40] <Drac[Server] > Hi. I just installed Ubuntu on my laptop. I can't seem to get an external mouse working. Keyboards work fine in the PS/2 port, but a mouse won't. I tried adding a "mouse1" to xorg.conf, but I used the usual parameters. Is there something special that I need to configure? Currently, when I plug in the mouse, neither the mouse nor the touch pad function. Touch pad functionality is regained when the mouse is removed.
[11:41] <Drac[Server] > Wait a second... I put vidalinux gentoo on there, not Ubuntu... Err... whoops. Sorry. I'll ask the proper channel.
[11:42] <jahshu> i wish i could make a wap with one wireless card and one cat5 connected to net
[11:42] <johndarkhorse> jahshu: firestarter doesnt offer you that choice?
[11:43] <thisplayer> jahshu: i've read its possible...dont know how
[11:43] <jahshu> i thought firestarter was just a firewall
[11:43] <thisplayer> firestarter maybe a good start..
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell jahshu about firestarter
[11:43] <thisplayer> !firestarter
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> the bot is down.
[11:43] <jahshu> is it in the wiki?
[11:43] <Seveas> ubotu,
[11:43] <jahshu> i have firestarter
[11:43] <Seveas> ubotu, ping
[11:43] <johndarkhorse> firestarter is a frontend for all of iptables functions, jahshu
[11:44] <devwal> Anyone have a pokerstars account?
[11:44] <Seveas> johndarkhorse, ubotu seems lagging indeed
[11:44] <Seveas> cafuego, poke
[11:44] <jahshu> so theortically i can have a irect connection via cat5 to my isp than broadcast from anothe pci slot wireless card?
[11:45] <jahshu> that would be a powerful tool
[11:45] <Drac[Server] > Hmm... The Gentoo guys are being stubborn. Would anyone here be willing to give me help with xorg.conf, or is Ubuntu still using XFree86?
[11:46] <jahshu> we use xorg
[11:46] <jahshu> i had to rack my brain on xorg to get my display out of 640-480
[11:46] <johndarkhorse> Drac[Server] : ask your question
[11:47] <ccooke> Drac[Server] : I'm assuming you run gentoo, then?
[11:47] <xan> hey can anyone here tell me why Haxial's KXD server isn't running?
[11:47] <ccooke> Drac[Server] : which means the debian-style autoconfiguration is out, unfortunately
[11:47] <CuriousCat> would anyone know how to get sound working of xfce?
[11:49] <intelikey> is there a high-end graphics app for ubuntu ?      and what kind of ram are we talking about having to have ?
[11:50] <corptix> thisplayer : it didnt work
[11:50] <Drac[Server] > ccooke: Yeah, unfortunately I don't have the 'Debian style' config in all likelihood. It may very well be a lack of support in the kernel, this problem of mine. I can't get an external mouse to work with my laptop.
[11:50] <ompaul> CuriousCat, if you right click on the desktop there should be a "setup" menu item it fires up a window with lots of things you can configure
[11:51] <katie^> i need a new keyboard
[11:51] <allison_1984> hi guys, do I need to mount a FAT formatted flash drive to be able to view and copy the files onto my hard drive ?
[11:52] <ompaul> allison_1984, does it not mount automagically?
[11:52] <intelikey> ok let me ask this then, if i have 2g of ram  is there any app that might cause that to need swap space ?
[11:52] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: not really
[11:52] <Ng> intelikey: it's generally a good idea to always have swap space
[11:52] <allison_1984> ompaul: its funny it used to mount automatically, now it does not
[11:53] <Ng> intelikey: even if it's only, say, half a gig, it allows the kernel to page old things out to disk so it can use RAM for cache
[11:53] <intelikey> but is there anything that will demand that much ram ?
[11:53] <allison_1984> ompaul: its the first time it has not mounted
[11:53] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: the system expects to have some swap, even if it's not necessary
[11:53] <Ng> intelikey: if you run lots of things, sure, but like I said, it's worth having anyway
[11:53] <corptix> dude
[11:53] <corptix> it didnt fkn work
[11:53] <corptix> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[11:54] <ompaul> allison_1984, okay just a sec
[11:54] <Drac[Server] > Does Ubuntu have good support for Laptop bits? I noticed the installer couldn't communicate with my PCMCIA ethernet card. I need USB support or something of that nature.
[11:54] <johndarkhorse> intelikey: i have a machine with 2.5gb ram and rarely if ever hit 1g used
[11:54] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok
[11:54] <corptix> i done that completed everything and it didnt boot again
[11:54] <Drac[Server] > USB mouse*
[11:54] <corptix> i get the black and white screen
[11:54] <intelikey> well the fact that i only have 64m ram and no swap probably isn't wise in your eyes.
[11:54] <CuriousCat> ompaul: hmm. can't seem to find it
[11:54] <intelikey> johndarkhorse thank you !
[11:55] <corptix> "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-zorg
[11:55] <corptix> i done that completed everything and it didnt boot again
[11:55] <corptix> i get the black and white screen
[11:55] <ompaul> CuriousCat, have a look at xubuntu on the wiki there are pictures there of what you want to do
[11:55] <corptix> fuckin morons i swear
[11:56] <jahshu> corptix not very human of you
[11:56] <allison_1984> ompual: in fact I can see the drive in computer, when I try to open it it says; error given udi is not a mountable volume
[11:56] <Drac[Server] > No comments on USB mouse support in the initial build? :\
[11:56] <ompaul> allison_1984, mount /dev/sda1 /media/something
[11:57] <allison_1984> ompaul: does it has anything to do with the fact that its FAT
[11:57] <ompaul> allison_1984, let me rewrite the command
[11:58] <allison_1984> ompaul: ok
[11:58] <ilba7r> !e17
[11:59] <francesco_> ciao a tutti:)>
[11:59] <ompaul> allison_1984, >> sudo mkdir /media/akey ; sudo mount -t dos /dev/sda1 /media/akey <<
[11:59] <twilight> francesco_, il canale italiano e' #ubuntu-it, qui si parla in inglese
[11:59] <francesco_> :)>ok grazie!
[12:00] <ilba7r> ompal you should also look up pmount it will automate most of the mounting and you run it as user not superuser
[12:00] <francesco_> ciao
[12:00] <ilba7r> is ubotu down ?
[12:00] <bimberi> ilba7r: yep :/
[12:00] <ilba7r> thanx bimberi
[12:00] <ompaul> ilba7r, yes
[12:01] <ilba7r> thanx ompaul
[12:01] <ompaul> np
[12:01] <bimberi> ilba7r: np, you can browse the factoids at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au/
[12:01] <tuskernini> hi there all, how do i burn a data dvd direct from a nfs drive? i tried with GnomeBaker... didnt want to work...
[12:01] <ilba7r> great link than again bimberi
[12:04] <shai__> how can I check the version of a package in apt?
[12:04] <Ng> apt-cache show packagename
[12:05] <xan> does anyone have experience with KDX on ubuntu
[12:05] <xan> ?
[12:05] <skwashd> hi all
[12:05] <skwashd> i have checked malone, and i have tried to reproduce this on other installs and i can't
[12:06] <Xnos> anyone using giFT?
[12:06] <skwashd> my problem is for 1 user that firefox on breezy refuses to use mozplugger or remember the settings for M$ Word .doc files
[12:07] <skwashd> no matter what i try ... each time i want to d/l a word .doc i have to enter the full path to oowriter2
[12:07] <skwashd> has anyone else struck this?
[12:07] <skwashd> i have also created a clean profile ... same issue
[12:07] <skwashd> i have reinstalled mozplugger ... same issue
[12:08] <jahshu> with four desktops does it mangae resources?
[12:09] <jahshu> im curious what it is actualy doing
[12:09] <skwashd> oh .. and google comes up with sfa for this too
[12:12] <irma> hi all
[12:14] <wb> I have a gksudo question, I have Kerberos working for user auth since two days, but now gksudo does not prompt for password if needed (process hangs). anybody knows something?
[12:15] <irma> i want to install mplayer..but if i want to install it (this progam is not curently installeble it shoot be installeble in the"multiverse" section of the repositories dialog in the settings menu to install it) what does that mean
[12:16] <liable> !repos
[12:16] <bimberi> !multiverse
[12:16] <bimberi> heh
[12:16] <liable> !hi
[12:16] <liable> its dead..
[12:16] <irma> hi bim
[12:16] <ompaul> bot is fone work a walk
[12:16] <ompaul> s/fone/gone
[12:17] <johndarkhorse> irma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Repositories
[12:17] <irma> is someone here familiair with mplayer?
[12:17] <jahshu> serously folks any one have any info on x desktops/
[12:17] <irma> oh:)
[12:17] <jahshu> i can google it
[12:18] <bimberi> hi irma - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[12:18] <jahshu> is there a comprehensive l;ist of wireless cards that ubuntu or diswrapper will recognize
[12:18] <limguohong91> How can I setup a share folder with my window and ubuntu?
[12:18] <cyphase> Great joke - http://zacbowling.com/blog/2006/01/16/best-blond-joke-ever/
[12:18] <Talisker> !tell talisker about nvidia
[12:18] <cyphase> sorry to the blondes out there, nothing personal i think :)
[12:18] <Talisker> where's the bot? :(((
[12:19] <Determinist> yay, i've managed to make my linux machine communicate to my Pocket PC :D
[12:19] <redguy> !test
[12:19] <Ng> ubotu appears to be absent
[12:19] <bimberi> jahshu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[12:19] <jahshu> ty very much
[12:19] <irma> tx bim i try that
[12:19] <ompaul> BOT is off air atm why? who knows. how long? who knows.
[12:19] <ompaul> :)
[12:19] <johndarkhorse> irma: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[12:20] <liable> bots need time off too!
[12:20] <irma> what is that john?
[12:20] <Talisker> that sucks... I need the bullet list for installing nvidia drivers on my box
[12:20] <cafuego> whut?
[12:20] <liable> cafuego: your bots awol
[12:20] <p6> yeeeeeeeee
[12:21] <cafuego> !test
[12:21] <cafuego> eeeevil bot
[12:21] <cafuego> lemme see
[12:21] <johndarkhorse> irma: some wiki links that may enlighten you
[12:21] <ompaul>  cafuego he left 30 mins ago
[12:21] <Determinist> cool, i can now copy files from my pocket pc, this owns
[12:21] <Determinist> i now officially do not need windows XP or that stinking activesync anymore :D
[12:22] <jahshu> so you think if my d-link wl-20+ isnt listed in there its impossible
[12:23] <cafuego> Gimme a random wisconsin zipcode!
[12:23] <Determinist> now all i gotta do is wait for the familiar distro (pocket pc linux distro) to be ready for use on my pocket pc and voila, no more microsoft logo for me
[12:24] <irma> how do u stop apt-get program?
[12:24] <Seveas> cafuego, searching for H-bomb targets again?
[12:24] <Seveas> irma, <ctrl> C
[12:24] <irma> do i need to open my terminal?
[12:24] <Determinist> lars?
[12:24] <Seveas> larts even
[12:24] <Determinist> larts?
[12:24] <Determinist> !larts
[12:24] <ubotu> Determinist: Are you on ritalin?
[12:24] <Determinist> ubotu, no
[12:24] <ubotu> Ahh, too bad, I really thought so...
[12:24] <Seveas> !lart himself
[12:24] <ompaul> cafuego,  53701
[12:25] <ompaul> !53701
[12:25] <ubotu> ompaul: I haven't a clue
[12:25] <jahshu> ?I found drivers on d-links site but it has 5 different versions  ie a, b , c, d ,e of the dwl 520,
[12:26] <Determinist> once i'm done with some physics, am gonna write some zenity+bash thing to work with my ppc :D
[12:27] <Determinist> should i write some howto as to how i've managed to connect my pocket pc to breezy?
[12:27] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:27] <jouni__m> irma why you need to stop apt-get
[12:27] <liable> jahshu: theres an opensource driver too on sourceforge. (dunno about 520) but you might find the dlink ones dont work.
[12:27] <Seveas> Determinist, always useful :)
[12:27] <Determinist> Seveas, yeah :) but then... i'm too much of a noob :D
[12:27] <Determinist> Seveas, gonna do it tho , bwaha
[12:28] <jahshu> they have like 6 versions on there site
[12:28] <irma> if i open synaptic manager.. it cant open bc it says...a apt-get or aptitude is still runnuing
[12:28] <jahshu> my card has no identifiers
[12:28] <jahshu> neither does the box
[12:28] <jahshu> I wanna use it to make a wap for my laptop
[12:28] <cafuego> Seveas: I'm going to nuke belgium
[12:28] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:28] <Seveas> cafuego, aim carefully, it's a small country :)
[12:29] <TokenBad> ok lets try the question like this...I have some free space on my slave drive I want to convert from fat32 to linux format...how can I do that in ubuntu?
[12:29] <Determinist> Seveas, btw, does that initng thing work? the system does take it's sweet time loading every time
[12:29] <liable> jahshu: good luck, ndiswrapper is prolly your best bet, i dont think the dlink ones even support wpa
[12:29] <Seveas> Determinist, don't poke at it, keybuk is going to rewrite Ubuntus init for dapper+1
[12:29] <Seveas> to make it rock bananas
[12:29] <jahshu> it gets old having to diso my cat-5 cable everytime I go from laptop, to ubuntubox, to inmebox all day long
[12:29] <liable> man, dpkgs factoids have had a big clean up lately.. :(
[12:29] <liable> doh
[12:29] <Determinist> Seveas, so we should have an ubuntu that boots faster around 6.10?
[12:30] <jahshu> all my comps are dumpster scores and handmedowns along with most of my hardware
[12:30] <jahshu> hmmm
[12:30] <Seveas> Determinist, yes
[12:30] <imachine> hello.
[12:30] <imachine> what other includes are there in ubuntu linux?
[12:30] <imachine> i seem to be missing header files.
[12:30] <jahshu> anyone know much about alternate dns servers
[12:31] <jouni__m> irma do you have update manager etc. running?
[12:31] <Ng> Determinist: quit smoking and you'll have the cash in no time ;)
[12:31] <imachine> i installed linux-headers.
[12:31] <irma> i donno
[12:31] <jahshu> I would help chip in for a gnu isp
[12:31] <Determinist> Ng, yeah, i've been told that before :)
[12:31] <limguohong91> Do anyone know how to can link my Window and Ubuntu together in a share folder?
[12:31] <irma> i cant see what is running
[12:31] <cafuego> Seveas: Small town in Wisconsin, as it turns out. (postcode 53004)
[12:31] <imachine> limguohong91, use samba.
[12:32] <limguohong91> Thanks imachine but do I have to set it up at Window?
[12:32] <irma> i have update manager but cant open it
[12:32] <Determinist> limguohong91, same machine or different machines on same network?
[12:33] <limguohong91> Determinist , same machine
[12:33] <ubuntu> ok i really stuffed up this time this what happen my ubuntu didnt boot so i foramtted under xp just removed the file on the hhd now when i reboot i get an error from GURBU the dual boot thing
[12:33] <ubuntu> it wont boot my xp system
[12:33] <imachine> yeah, you need windows sharing afaik. i dont use m$ products much so its hard to help here ;)
[12:33] <ubuntu> im on liveCD right now ?
[12:33] <jouni__m> irma try in terminal sudo apt-get update.
[12:33] <Seveas> ubuntu, grab a windows cd/bootdisk and run fixmbr
[12:33] <irma> ok
[12:33] <Determinist> limguohong91, mount the windows partitions into /media/ , what FS are they? ntfs or fat32?
[12:33] <ubuntu> Seveas ere ?
[12:33] <imachine> come on now, is there a way to build my own stuff? or is it in the forums probably yeah
[12:34] <imachine> havent checked that yet
[12:34] <ubuntu> Seveas from where?
[12:34] <MrSunshine> seems atleast one person have same freezes as me in X
[12:34] <Seveas> ubuntu, windows cd or bootdisk
[12:34] <imachine> im new to ubuntu ;)
[12:34] <limguohong91> Determinist fat32, how can I mount it?
[12:34] <Seveas> !fat
[12:34] <ubotu> Seveas: I haven't a clue
[12:34] <Determinist> ubuntu, there's an option on the windows xp installation CD called recovery console, get there, type fixmbr
[12:34] <Seveas> !fat32
[12:34] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[12:34] <irma> acces denied jouni
[12:34] <Determinist> limguohong91, hmm, can you tell which /dev/hdXX are your windows partitions?
[12:34] <ubuntu> so i insert the cd and go to recoery mode and in cmd i type fixmbr ?
[12:35] <limguohong91> If I remember rightly it is 01
[12:35] <limguohong91> Determinist , hd01
[12:35] <Seveas> ubuntu, yes
[12:35] <ubuntu> ok
[12:35] <ubuntu> brb
[12:35] <Determinist> ubuntu, yeah, the recovery console is kinda like a command prompt, just type fixmbr and voila
[12:35] <iti3g> any iptables freaks? i want to enable internet (masquerading) for just 1 interface but i can't specify eth1 in the MASQ line (not allowed)...
[12:35] <irma> it sayd couldnt close list map or so
[12:35] <cafuego> !test
[12:35] <ubotu> Failed.
[12:35] <cafuego> Ok, so that at least worked.
[12:35] <Determinist> limguohong91, cant be... it should be /dev/hdaX hdbX etc
[12:35] <redguy_> yay!
[12:36] <limguohong91> Determinis Let me check my GParted
[12:36] <Determinist> limguohong91, k, you can also just ls /dev/ | grep hd
[12:36] <Determinist> the beauty of udev :)
[12:37] <limguohong91> Determinist , it is hda1 / fat32 flags = boot iba.
[12:37] <Determinist> limguohong91, cool, ok, create say... /media/winxp, then do mount /dev/hda1 /media/winxp
[12:38] <limguohong91> Determinist , thanks so your help so far, may I know how can I do it?
[12:38] <kcantin> hello all
[12:39] <Determinist> limguohong91, erm, the commands i've just given you should mount it once till you reboot, to have that happen each and every time you can use a script to put that in /etc/fstab
[12:39] <Determinist> !winmac
[12:39] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Determinist
[12:39] <Determinist> !fstab
[12:39] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[12:39] <kcantin> Can anyone give me info on installing talkd?
[12:39] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install talkd?
[12:39] <kcantin> Is that it??
[12:39] <limguohong91> Determinist , ok so is there anywhere where I can have that script?
[12:39] <cafuego> Seveas: When you going to do a glade frontend for diskmounter?
[12:40] <redguy_> kcantin: tried it?
[12:40] <Determinist> limguohong91, yeah... it's in the last link ubotu just posted... http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[12:40] <cafuego> kcantin: traditionally, yes. You may need to restart inetd afterwards.
[12:40] <jouni__m> irma are you only user of your computer
[12:40] <Determinist> cafuego, zenity should work better tho, no?
[12:40] <limguohong91> Thanks Determinist
[12:40] <Determinist> limguohong91, my pleasure mate :)
[12:40] <kcantin> ok, thanks a ton!!
[12:41] <limguohong91> :)
[12:41] <irma> jouni- it says couldnt get /var/lib/dpkg/lock ...sourse 11
[12:42] <irma> no i have 2 users
[12:42] <ejofee> is there any gnu-linux equivalent to the winxp's "hibernate" feature? (saving all of the ram contents to the hdd and then loading the ram from the hdd)
[12:42] <Determinist> limguohong91, you need to chmod +x <file you just downloaded> and then run it using sh <filename>, you can then edit your fstab file if you dont like the names it's given your partitions. the added bonus is that now your windows partition would appear under the places menu in gnome :)
[12:42] <ernst> hi
[12:42] <Ng> ejofee: choose Hibernate on the log out screen. it may not work though
[12:42] <kcantin> it said "could not find package talkd"??
[12:43] <cafuego> Special, all windows in gnome went completely transparent.
[12:43] <ejofee> Ng: which app does this "hibernate" feature use? gdm itself?
[12:43] <bimberi> kcantin: you'll need to enable the universe repository ...
[12:43] <ompaul> talkd is in universe
[12:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell kcantin about universe
[12:43] <irma> meby becouse i started gnome session?
[12:43] <Ng> ejofee: it uses acpi I think
[12:43] <ejofee> Ng: thanks.
[12:43] <limguohong91> Thanks a lot Determinist but i just have to do " sudo bash diskmounter " and hda1 appear under places :D
[12:43] <ernst> i am trying to run a patch for wine, but the patch can't find the files that need to be patched, nor can i! PATCH: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[12:44] <Determinist> limguohong91, that works too :)
[12:44] <irma> brb... jouni.. i reboot;)
[12:44] <limguohong91> Seriously, thanks a lot Determinist , you are really great :)
[12:44] <Determinist> limguohong91, i had good teachers
[12:44] <Seveas> cafuego, system -> admin -> disks *g8
[12:44] <jahshu> is ndiswrapper preinstalled?
[12:44] <ernst> no
[12:45] <limguohong91> Determinist :p Thanks a lot :D
[12:45] <ernst> it's a default package of ubuntu, and can be installed very easy
[12:45] <cafuego> Pff
[12:45] <cilkay> Hi. I have a fressh installation of Breezy done via debootstrap. When I run base-config, I get an error: Problem installing the selected software.... etc. There are supposedly broken packages as a result but aptitude doesn't find any. I've tried two different mirrors. This is my first time installing Ubuntu. Any idea how I can work around this?
[12:45] <jahshu> hough add aplication or synaptic?
[12:45] <Determinist> ok, back to nagging to the guys at handhelds.org to get me a linux distro to run on my ppc :)
[12:45] <cilkay> BTW, I used debootstrap because I'm installing on a Xen VPS.
[12:46] <ernst> synaptic search for ndiswrapper
[12:46] <jahshu> ty ernst
[12:46] <kcantin> thanks everyone... doing that now
[12:47] <ernst> Can anyone help me with this wine patch: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[12:47] <kcantin> after restarting inetd don't I have to run mesg y or something like that?
[12:47] <fireonyx> quick ?...  How do I get my comp to suspend to memory without it asking for my password several times?
[12:47] <ernst> I can't find the files that need to be patched
[12:48] <jouni__m> cilkay you can try dpkg --configure -a
[12:48] <lowman62> g'morn/aft'noon/evenin ubuntu tech support room :)
[12:48] <ernst> hi
[12:49] <Determinist> howdy
[12:50] <lowman62> o'boy need a pail of coffee this morn :P
[12:53] <jahshu> so to use ndiswrapper one can run the install cd ni linux?
[12:54] <Ap4ch3> how do I use/set the advanced surround sound settings (EAX, EQ settings) on my VIA CT8237 chip in ubuntu? Under windows there are lots of option for the equalizer, speaker config etc
[12:54] <ernst> jahsu: what do you mean?
[12:55] <seamen2> ja
[12:55] <Determinist> Ap4ch3, not sure these features exist mate... those are driver related and last i checked not too many hardware makers are eager to cooperate
[12:57] <dc> hi
[12:57] <dc>  ?
[12:57] <Seveas> dc, #ubuntu-ru perhaps
[12:58] <aSaT> When printing over parport, pages get stalled for like half an hour. I'd like to test in polling mode, but modprobe parport irq=none does not work (Unknown parameter `irq')
[12:58] <aSaT> Other things I could try?
[01:00] <km0ti0n> I can;t find mono_mod in apt
[01:01] <km0ti0n> I am using "universe" but no joy
[01:01] <ernst> nobody nows about my wine patch that i can't get to work: http://www.ia-stud.hiof.no/~danieleb/wine-0.9.4-reverse-bitmaprendering.patch
[01:01] <ernst> i can't find the right dll files
[01:02] <kemik> km0ti0n:  there's nosuch package
[01:04] <Ap4ch3> Thanks Determinist :) ........the current  oss driver is fine though...works great... just not as many controls as winblows :)
[01:04] <cilkay> jouni__m: thanks. I just tried dpkg --configure -a. It didn't do anything so I presume that means I have no broken packages.
[01:04] <Determinist> Ap4ch3, aye :)
[01:05] <jahshu> so to use ndiswrapper one can run the install cd ni linux?
[01:05] <jouni__m> cilkay that means you don't have any uncofigured packages, I think.
[01:06] <cilkay> jouni__m: probably. Not much installed yet anyway.
[01:07] <ernst> jahshu: to run ndiswrapper use Synaptic Package Manager
[01:07] <ernst> then use the terminal and follow the ndiswrapper instructions
[01:09] <ernst> jahshu: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Installation
[01:09] <dwerf> W: Couldn't stat source package list cdrom://Ubuntu 5.04 _breezy Hedgehog_ - Release i386 (20050407) breezy/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/Ubuntu%205.04%20%5fbreezy%20Hedgehog%5f%20-%20Release%20i386%20(20050407)_dists_breezy_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory
[01:10] <dwerf> what does that mean?
[01:10] <liable> dwerf: you dont have the cd in the drive?
[01:10] <liable> dwerf: comment oput the cdrom line in sources list
[01:13] <dwerf> ok thanx
[01:13] <dwerf> off course
[01:15] <jouni__m> cilkay hmm. they dropped base-config from dapper. it's still in breezy. hope you get it working or maybe there is alternative way.
[01:18] <tr00nd> 
[01:21] <jouni__m> cilkay what does base-config do apart from setting timezone (and repositories?)? could you apt-get install ubuntu-base and/or ubuntu-minimal?
[01:22] <Toma-> jouni__m: id go with or
[01:24] <miki> Hi. I can't figure out how to change resolution higher than 1280x800. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf so resolutions are up to 1600x1200 but under gnome I can't choose from up to 1280x800.
[01:25] <Toma-> ubotu: tell miki about fixres
[01:25] <miki> Hi. I can't figure out how to change resolution higher than 1280x800. I've edited /etc/X11/xorg.conf so resolutions are up to 1600x1200 but under gnome I just can choose from up to 1280x800.
[01:25] <miki> ok thx
[01:25] <Toma-> np
[01:26] <liable> !seen bob2
[01:26] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'bob2', liable
[01:27] <km0ti0n> How can i find out hat process is using my port 80?
[01:27] <km0ti0n> I want tto run apache2 on it
[01:28] <liable> netstat -plunt
[01:29] <pl_ice> hi ya
[01:29] <Toma-> lo
[01:30] <pl_ice> guys, i got problem with a laptop, sony vaio, when i boot knoppix or ubuntu live i can't mount the hd, it just doesn't exist!
[01:30] <km0ti0n> liable: thanks
[01:30] <Toma-> pl_ice: what FS is on this harddrive?
[01:30] <liable> np
[01:30] <Seveas> pl_ice, does fdisk -l list it?
[01:31] <pl_ice> the partition is ntfs, cfdisk doesn't recognise it...
[01:31] <pl_ice> not sure fdisk, hold on
[01:31] <km0ti0n> liable: it tell me a precess is listening but not what it is tho
[01:32] <Toma-> pl_ice: ntfs isnt supported fully by linux, usually only read-only...
[01:32] <km0ti0n> tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:80              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     -
[01:32] <km0ti0n> that's all i have
[01:32] <pl_ice> Toma- yeh, i know but the partition/ hd just doesn't exist :)
[01:32] <pl_ice> can't understand what had happened
[01:32] <Toma-> is it scsi or anything?
[01:32] <pl_ice> in proc/scsi there is nothing, empty log, it's a laptop
[01:33] <fcastelo> Hi there
[01:33] <liable> km0ti0n: the right hand side, if theres no name, and you dont have a httpd installed, then you should be thinking 'have i been hacked'..
[01:34] <Toma-> sif
[01:35] <fcastelo> I like to know what should I do to make Firefox 1.5 install in Breezy. It returns a message error: libstdc++.so.5 is missing or something. I've already tried to make a symbolic link and didn't work out.
[01:36] <km0ti0n> liable: this was installed 2/3 hours ago.
[01:36] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[01:36] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:36] <km0ti0n> the change of being hacked.
[01:36] <Toma-> fcastelo: get this package libstdc++5
[01:36] <km0ti0n> is there no way of tellign exactally what process is listening?
[01:36] <fcastelo> I couldn't find a package to Ubuntu or Debian. Just FD4.
[01:38] <fcastelo> Toma-: I couldn't find a package to Ubuntu or Debian. Just FD4.
[01:38] <Toma-> !info libstdc++5
[01:38] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, hold on a sec
[01:38] <ubotu> libstdc++5: (The GNU Standard C++ Library v3), section base, is optional. Version: 1:3.3.6-8ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 848 kB
[01:38] <Toma-> u sure?
[01:39] <katie^> wow
[01:39] <katie^> open office is like so slow
[01:39] <thux> Hi, what file I can write modules that I don't want to load at boot time?
[01:39] <Toma-> katie^: 2.0 is alot quicker
[01:39] <Seveas> km0ti0n, sudo netstat -tlnp
[01:40] <fcastelo> Yes. I've searched in google, and didn't find it.
[01:40] <prada> fcastelo: apt-get install libstdc++5 doesn't work !! ?
[01:40] <xiao> IS THERE ANY WAY TO HOLD MORE CHARS HORIZONTALL AND VERTICALL IN CONSOLE??
[01:40] <Toma-> xiao: no caps thx
[01:40] <km0ti0n> Seveas: thanks it showing apache
[01:40] <xiao> I AM USING 80X25 OR SUCH
[01:40] <xiao> ok!
[01:41] <nalioth> Toma-: howdy from the usual box!
[01:41] <Toma-> hey nalioth :)
[01:41] <prada> fcastelo: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/base/libstdc++5
[01:41] <katie^> how can i say
[01:41] <fcastelo> prada: I didn't find the package to Ubuntu or Debian.
[01:41] <katie^> "i recently quit college" without it sounding so UGH
[01:41] <Seveas> xiao, add vga=792 to the kernel parameters
[01:41] <Toma-> xiao: like, a gnome terminal or a tty?
[01:41] <xiao> is ther any way to hold more chars horizontall and verticall in console?
[01:41] <prada> fcastelo: sent you the link ..
[01:41] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[01:41] <eazel7> hi
[01:41] <xiao> tty
[01:42] <Toma-> xiao: do what Seveas said
[01:42] <xiao> more than 80, eg 120
[01:42] <Seveas> katie^, "I made a non-educational career move"
[01:42] <xiao> i have got '19 and 80x25 is ridiculous
[01:42] <Toma-> or set a smaller default font
[01:42] <xiao> how to add it?
[01:42] <fcastelo> para: I really appreciate your help. Tks. I'll try this.
[01:42] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, try apt-cache search libstdc++5
[01:42] <xiao> where i can find kernel??
[01:42] <Seveas> xiao, sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find the line that starts with #KOPT and add it there
[01:43] <katie^> i just quit, without a job or anything
[01:43] <xiao> can i use nano insterad of gedit?
[01:43] <nalioth> xiao: use what you like
[01:43] <katie^> so now i need to try and get a job with this company, so what baout I made a non-educational career move as to find a job in which I can learn at the same time as working as to be more independent
[01:43] <katie^> or some bs
[01:44] <xiao> it isn't #KOPT in that file!
[01:44] <Toma-> xiao: the one that says "kernel"
[01:45] <pl_ice> Seveas , fdisk -l does not list anything
[01:45] <Toma-> xiao: make sure you backup that menu.lst file first...
[01:45] <Seveas> pl_ice, sudo fdisk -l
[01:45] <xiao> already did
[01:46] <thux> do I have to do touch /etc/modprobe.conf ?
[01:46] <DaBlacky> hello everybody
[01:46] <pl_ice> Seveas yeh, got root, i'm u/d knoppix ubuntu didin't want to start
[01:46] <xiao> Toma: mean that: kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-386 root=/dev/hdd5 ro quiet splash ?
[01:46] <Seveas> pl_ice, then your drive may very well be FUBAR
[01:47] <Toma-> xiao: indeed
[01:47] <pl_ice> Seveas it's xp on it, ant it works... that's why i can't understand it ...
[01:47] <Seveas> pl_ice, hmmmmmmm
[01:47] <Seveas> weally, weally weiwd
[01:48] <xiao> toma-: idea: can I add many modes with diffrent resolutions to menu to choose?
[01:48] <j2daosh> hey... got a question. how do you restart the gui? like say it froze up but i can still login as root on the tty1-6? is there a way to restart the gui cleanly or will the machine have to be rebooted?
[01:48] <pl_ice> Seveas i'm gonna move the hd to another laptop, c what happens, if not then plugi it in to IDE
[01:48] <DaBlacky> My Ubuntu Live 5.10-cd won't start... anyone ideas? It stops at scanning the cd-rom by 86 % (cdrom/pool/pool/pool/pool/pool(bunch of pool/)programs/readmes/readme_US-en.txt
[01:49] <j2daosh> yeah... ur cd might be all scratched up
[01:49] <pl_ice> DaBlacky u got laptop?...
[01:49] <xiao> DaBlacky, clean the cd
[01:49] <DaBlacky> well... it's fresh cd... just burned it
[01:49] <j2daosh> is it like restart xorg or something?
[01:49] <DaBlacky> and I have burned it twice, both same problem
[01:49] <DaBlacky> no, no laptop
[01:49] <j2daosh> then ur distro might be bad
[01:49] <DaBlacky> damn...
[01:50] <xiao> try another one cd
[01:50] <Toma-> DaBlacky: did you check the md5sum?
[01:50] <eazel7> how can I build a package for breezy taking a dapper source?
[01:50] <DaBlacky> but is it normal he looks for pool/pool/pool/pool/pool/ ... /pool... I mean, it's a lot pool
[01:50] <DaBlacky> How do I check the md5sum? where to do that?
[01:50] <Toma-> DaBlacky: "md5sum thebreezy.iso"
[01:51] <Toma-> then check it against the md5sum file on the download server...
[01:51] <Toma-> 1md5sum
[01:51] <Toma-> !md5sum
[01:51] <ubotu> md5sum is, like, totally, to verify your ISO, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VerifyIsoHowto
[01:51] <DaBlacky> ok, I will do that
[01:51] <DaBlacky> be back in a few minutes ;)
[01:51] <j2daosh> how do i restart redhat gui?
[01:51] <xiao> ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:51] <e1tiger4lidt> hey... is it possible to get a old windows/DOS -game to work wit ubuntu?
[01:52] <j2daosh> just ter the tty and then getty07?
[01:52] <Toma-> e1tiger4lidt: yep. check out dosbox
[01:52] <xiao> sudo apt-cache search dos
[01:52] <Toma-> !info dosbox
[01:52] <ubotu> dosbox: (A x86 emulator with Tandy/Herc/CGA/EGA/VGA graphics, sound and DOS), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.63-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 368 kB, Installed size: 1000 kB
[01:52] <j2daosh> ctrl+alt+backspace for what?
[01:52] <e1tiger4lidt> ill do that - thanks!
[01:52] <Toma-> np
[01:52] <pl_ice> Seveas just checked, the xp still works! wth?
[01:54] <DaBlacky> the md5sum is 49f36f8aef009d6403360de23b5a47d4 *ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[01:54] <DaBlacky> where can I check the correctness?
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add freedesktop bugzilla https://bugs.freedesktop.org Freedesktop
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add gnome bugzilla http://bugs.gnome.org Gnome
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add gnome2 bugzilla http://bugzilla.gnome.org Gnome
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add ubuntu bugzilla http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com Ubuntu
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add malone malone http://launchpad.net/malone Malone
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add debian debbugs http://bugs.debian.org Debian
[01:55] <Seveas> @bugtracker add ximian bugzilla http://bugzilla.ximian.com Ximian
[01:55] <Seveas> FUCK
[01:55] <osfameron> breezy++ # shiny eye-candy
[01:55] <Toma-> nice paste
[01:55] <Seveas> I meant to say: 49f36f8aef009d6403360de23b5a47d4  ubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[01:55] <Toma-> hahah
[01:55] <Seveas> DaBlacky, so the md5sum is correct
[01:55] <DaBlacky> so.. the iso is not corrupt
[01:55] <Toma-> hahah
[01:55] <DaBlacky> and the cd's are burned correctly...
[01:56] <j2daosh> lol u ok there seveas?
[01:56] <pl_ice> hahaha
[01:56] <Seveas> j2daosh, apart from my head hanging in shame, yeah, fairly ok
[01:57] <centyx> !w32codecs
[01:57] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:57] <j2daosh> lol its ok seveas... ive done stupider stuff :) but i think i might have to submit that to bash.org ::joking::
[01:58] <pl_ice> !beer
[01:58] <pl_ice> :)
[01:58] <Seveas> j2daosh, ubuntulinux.nl/quotes :)
[01:58] <nalioth> Seveas: please watch your potty mouth   :)
[01:58] <j2daosh> oh ubuntu has one too? :) well since im bored i think i might have to check that out lol
[01:59] <pl_ice> hey any idea about my laptop? can't find out where the hd is stored, can't take it out...
[01:59] <DaBlacky> so nobody has an idea? :(
[01:59] <pl_ice> DaBlacky how long did u run it for?
[01:59] <DaBlacky> I haven't started it correctly
[02:00] <DaBlacky> never been further then the cd-scan
[02:00] <DaBlacky> so... I'm a real newbie to Linux/Ubuntu ;)
[02:01] <pl_ice> how old is the pc?
[02:01] <prada> DaBlacky: is there anyway to bypass the scan ?
[02:01] <DaBlacky> 4 years... It's a AMD Thunderbird 1400 with 1 Gb of RAM
[02:01] <DaBlacky> no, it will always start to scan, even if I try to skip that step
[02:01] <pl_ice> i need a hand with a laptop, can't recognise hd with live cd
[02:02] <nalioth> pl_ice: really? you've run "sudo lshw" ?
[02:02] <prada> DaBlacky: there must be a boot option to bypass it ..
[02:02] <DaBlacky> could be... what do I need to type then? :)
[02:02] <pl_ice> nalioth in /dev it doesn't exist fdisk, cfdisk etc ..none
[02:03] <prada> DaBlacky: press tab at the prompt ... I'm not too sure ... only guessing
[02:03] <nalioth> pl_ice: you got the liveCD up now?
[02:03] <Toma-> or F1 at the boot screen
[02:03] <pl_ice> nalioth yeh, ubuntu won't boot up, got knoppix
[02:04] <pl_ice> DaBlacky u could try running the server installation only, then adding up
[02:04] <nalioth> pl_ice: ok. i'm not sure about knoppix, but get into a console and install "smartmontools"
[02:04] <pl_ice> k
[02:04] <DaBlacky> I 'm gonna read the F1-files to search for an option
[02:05] <pl_ice> nalioth back in a sec...
[02:06] <fek> moin
[02:06] <Toma-> !sensors
[02:06] <ubotu> from memory, sensors is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SensorInstallHowto
[02:07] <ubuntudvd32> Can some one please help me install my webcam creative PD1001
[02:08] <fr1ction> !help
[02:09] <oliveira> join #ubuntu-br
[02:09] <j2daosh> ok i know this question is really stupid (no you cant quote me seveas), how much different is redhat from ubuntu? i mean it cant be as different as say winblows and unix...
[02:09] <oliveira> join ubuntu-br
[02:09] <j2daosh> try a /join
[02:09] <j2daosh> and a #ubuntu-br
[02:09] <nalioth> j2daosh: the packaging and delivery methods are different as is the philosophy
[02:10] <Rawplayer> Seveas: do i get unbanned one day?
[02:10] <Seveas> j2daosh, different (worse) package management, different goals, different ways of doing a lot of things...
[02:10] <oliveira> ok
[02:10] <nalioth> oliveira: marque /j #ubuntu-br
[02:10] <oliveira> foi rs...
[02:10] <stinkschwein> do you know a free sms gateway ??????????
[02:10] <Seveas> Rawplayer, waar?
[02:10] <Seveas> stinkschwein, ask somewhere else, this channel is for Ubuntu support
[02:10] <oliveira> fazia tempo que no usava o IRC
[02:10] <jazwec> hi..please could anybody help me with bluetooth? i want to send some pics and stuff to my mobile phone and i dont know how..
[02:11] <j2daosh> ok well i know it probably has a different gui config and all but restarting nautilus should be similar to restarting the gui on redhat right?
[02:11] <nalioth> oliveira: tipea /j #ubuntu-br
[02:11] <stinkschwein> ok, but i use ubuntu :-)
[02:11] <Seveas> stinkschwein, so?
[02:11] <j2daosh> jazwec,  synaptic manager, search bluetooth
[02:12] <Seveas> stinkschwein, I use Ubuntu to, but I'm not gonna ask for cooking advise or other offtopic things in here :)
[02:12] <nalioth> j2daosh: you're referring to gdm ? or the nautilus program itself? linux is linux for the most part
[02:12] <iceraven> How can I have my home folder come up with the shortcut "<Windows Key> e"?
[02:12] <oliveira> blz nalioth
[02:12] <_jason> ubotu, tell iceraven about shortcut
[02:12] <stinkschwein> ok i'm sorry, i use irc firdst time
[02:12] <j2daosh> well im gonna assume gdm... whatever the gui is.
[02:12] <_jason> iceraven, make a shortcut for 'nautilus /home/your_user_name'
[02:13] <jazwec> j2daosh yeah i did it already and i had downloaded gnome-bluetooth package..but with "manager" i can only find my mobile (it works) but nothing more..and "file sharing" application does "OBEX ERROR"
[02:13] <j2daosh> the redhat gui here at work locked up and i want to restart it... i have tty01-6 avail
[02:13] <j2daosh> jazwec, dont know... im still using an old phone with iR
[02:13] <nalioth> j2daosh: 99%  of your commands are the same (it IS linux under both hoods)
[02:13] <nalioth> j2daosh: join #ubuntu-offtopic for more in depth discussion
[02:13] <katie^> fav p2p network for ubuntu please
[02:14] <j2daosh> ok... nalioth how would i restart it? lol
[02:14] <pl_ice> nalioth i got command smartctl, i souposse it's the same one ..
[02:14] <nalioth> pl_ice: yes, run smartctl --help and help yourself
[02:14] <pl_ice> yeh :)
[02:14] <pl_ice> nalioth is there a way to disable smart on boot?
[02:15] <Toma-> woot! sensors up and running :D~~~
[02:15] <nalioth> sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart     j2daosh
[02:15] <nalioth> pl_ice: i'm not sure
[02:15] <j2daosh> ahh... :) thank you
[02:15] <pl_ice> ok
[02:15] <nalioth> pl_ice: i just want to see if the drive actually works
[02:16] <pl_ice> nalioth yeh, wanna throw linux on it
[02:16] <nalioth> pl_ice: smartctl with the appropriate commands will tell you if it is alive or DOA
[02:16] <pl_ice> nalioth but smartctl needs a /dev/?? and seems like the hd is not in it!
[02:16] <iceraven> thanks _jason, reading up on the info you sent.
[02:17] <_jason> iceraven, if you are using gnome with metacity, see method B.  easier
[02:17] <midas> hi
[02:17] <pl_ice> hi
[02:18] <nalioth> pl_ice: if you have no /dev/ entry for you hard drive you got trouble
[02:18] <pl_ice> nalioth  :(
[02:18] <nalioth> pl_ice: try /dev/hda
[02:18] <_jason> iceraven, actually I just looked and there is already an option to create a shortcut for the home folder if you go to system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts !
[02:18] <ubuntudvd32> please help me install usb webcam creative PD1001 on breezy
[02:18] <midas> what do i have to do with the sources.list to get the j2re ?? dont see it in synaptic ...
[02:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell midas about javadebs
[02:19] <dutch> nalioth: I think it's a holiday...ubotu might be off today :)
[02:20] <nalioth> dutch: no, his server is having some trouble (again)
[02:20] <bubiman> everytime I start VLC and firefox is allready running I don't get any picture in VLC. Can someone help here?
[02:20] <nalioth> dutch: also, someone keeps filling these factoids SOOO DARN FULL of info
[02:20] <iceraven> -jason, Yeah I got excited when I found that but it does not accespt the windows key in a combination with another key as input into the field, as it does with alt for example.
[02:20] <dutch> nalioth:  well !  I didn't do it
[02:22] <_jason> iceraven, oh, then method B may not work either.  method A on that page probably will.
[02:25] <_jason> iceraven, read the last post: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=203916
[02:26] <Vashypooh> ._.;;; how do i get an icon to run a wine program
[02:27] <fcastelo> prada: could you pls tell me again where could I find the libstdc++.so.5 package to download??
[02:27] <_jason> Vashypooh, create a launcher for the command you normally run in a terminal
[02:27] <Vashypooh> I cant seem to get it to want to do that because i have to change directorys
[02:27] <_jason> Vashypooh, use an absolute path: start at / and work your way up
[02:28] <Vashypooh> bash: /home/vash/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Starcraft/wine: No such file or directory
[02:28] <_jason> Vashypooh, escapt the space maybe
[02:28] <iceraven> _jason, Checking it out...
[02:29] <Vashypooh> this is what im typing /home/vash/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/Starcraft/wine Starcraft
[02:29] <prada> fcastelo: just a minute .. I'll send you the link directly to the deb
[02:30] <thegve> Hello
[02:30] <kuanacs> hola
[02:30] <thegve> I've heard that the ubuntu net install isn't working. is that right?
[02:30] <prada> fcastelo: the best way to search for the package is at http://packages.ubuntu.com (in case you don't know))
[02:31] <DaBlacky> it still won't work... :'(
[02:31] <prada> fcastelo: which architecture is your machine ?
[02:31] <kuanacs> i have a problem
[02:31] <thegve> (they said that on the ubuntu-nl channel too)... but they don't know the technical reason soo i'm asking here
[02:31] <jahshu> libmp3lame.so
[02:31] <jahshu> should tht package be in synaptic?
[02:31] <_jason> Vashypooh, wine /path/to/windowsexe
[02:31] <fcastelo> prada: intel PIV
[02:31] <pl_ice_> i hate when my ip ownes my nick! blood lat
[02:31] <pl_ice_> lag*
[02:32] <fr1ction> hi! where do i have to look for a solution to implement several networking profiles (home/work/wireless) on my ubuntu 5.10 laptop?
[02:32] <kuanacs> i don't speak english
[02:32] <prada> fcastelo: there you go - http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/g/gcc-3.3/libstdc++5_3.3.6-8ubuntu1_i386.deb
[02:32] <nalioth> jahshu: try liblame0
[02:32] <DaBlacky> kuanacs>> what do you speak then?
[02:32] <Vashypooh> Thank you _jason =D
[02:32] <fcastelo> prada: tks so much
[02:32] <nalioth> kuanacs: que idioma?
[02:32] <pl_ice_> nalioth any other ideas ? ;)
[02:33] <jahshu> ty nalioth
[02:33] <kuanacs> spanish
[02:33] <nalioth> !es
[02:33] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:33] <prada> fcastelo: you're welcome :)
[02:33] <nalioth> pl_ice_: no hard drive found?
[02:33] <kuanacs> espaol
[02:33] <DaBlacky> !nl
[02:33] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[02:33] <Vashypooh> Thank you _jason =D
[02:33] <DaBlacky> :)
[02:33] <_jason> Vashypooh, yw
[02:33] <Vashypooh> _jason, Im having a small problem with my GNOME Panel
[02:34] <nalioth> kuanacs: marque /j #ubuntu-es por favor
[02:34] <pl_ice_> nalioth yeh, i just don't know, and i can't find how to take hd out of laptop :/ in other laptops it's been easy
[02:34] <nalioth> pl_ice_: you may send it to me :P
[02:34] <pl_ice_> nalioth hahah, gimme ur c/car nr ;)
[02:34] <Vashypooh> _jason, When I reboot the PC, the Panels are all on the center of the screen, I have to go and make them expaind, then unexpand then they are on bottom
[02:34] <pl_ice_> *card
[02:34] <Vashypooh> And it cant seem to remember where I put them ever
[02:35] <Eghie_Work> does someone have more information about the netinstall of breezy? Why it isn't working?
[02:35] <katie^> whats the easiest way to unrar a file in the folder it's already in
[02:35] <thegve> eghie: Doesn't work here either: Using the NL mirror
[02:35] <_jason> katie^, unrar x rarfile, in the directory it is in
[02:35] <clynx> hey
[02:36] <katie^> tar
[02:36] <MrPockets> is there a list somewhere of programs you can apt-get ?
[02:36] <nalioth> katie^: unrar x file.rar
[02:36] <thegve> MrPockets apt-cache
[02:36] <clynx> it might be a stupid question, but could anyone tell me for which date a new release will be published?
[02:36] <Eghie_Work> MrPockets, apt-cache search <your program>
[02:36] <nalioth> clynx: the dates are built into the versions. dapper drake 6.04 release april 2006
[02:37] <clynx> is there any alpha or beta, which I could give a try?
[02:37] <nalioth> clynx: use breezy badger (the current distro)
[02:38] <clynx> hehe, I would like - and I've tried it. but the installtion makes problems with my pc.
[02:39] <thegve> Noone knows what causes the netinstall problems
[02:39] <thegve> ?
[02:39] <pl_ice_> nalioth thnx for help :) will try 2morrow bye
[02:40] <DaBlacky> I want to thank everybody for the help..
[02:40] <pimonseter> Hello
[02:40] <DaBlacky> conclusion is a bug in the boot-program (loop)
[02:40] <pl_ice_> DaBlacky :) help other guys then :)
[02:41] <DaBlacky> how can a total newbie help other guys/girls? ;)
[02:41] <nalioth> DaBlacky: by answering questions that you can
[02:41] <kestas> when running other GNOME programs in another account, but using my X session (for security reasons), I can't use the GNOME Open File dialogue
[02:41] <DaBlacky> if someone wants help for it's windows-machine... I'm here... but on the wrong channel I think :p
[02:42] <kestas> it seems I need to have a GNOME session open to use the Open File dialogue
[02:42] <pl_ice_> DaBlacky u can post ur problem, with answer on ubuntuforums.org so others will knows
[02:42] <kemik> if u know the answer to something, just say it ;)
[02:42] <kestas> but I dont know how to do that without having a whole other gnome-session
[02:42] <clynx> thanks nalioth
[02:42] <pimonseter> Anyone able to help with an issue? when i log in I get a messeage "unable to connect to internet check your /etc/hosts/
[02:42] <kemik> DaBlacky:  by hanging out in here you'll learn alot, aswell as reading the wiki and experimenting yourself
[02:43] <pl_ice_> hahaha my nick pl_ice signed off after 10 minutes!
[02:43] <DaBlacky> tnx
[02:44] <_jason> Vashypooh, have you tried a different user and seen if the problem persists?
[02:44] <fcastelo> prada: I downloaded the libstdc++5_3.3.6-8ubuntu1_i386.deb, however the Firefox needs the libstdc++.so.5 and it didn't come with it. What else should I do?
[02:44] <gnomefreak> if you dont mess things up ull never learn :)
[02:44] <Vashypooh> Not yet I havent, its more of just an annoying thing to have to do when booting the PC
[02:44] <nalioth> fcastelo: what are you trying to do?
[02:45] <katie^> okay.
[02:45] <katie^> wth can i do with a .iso that's 1.9GB?
[02:45] <nalioth> katie^: burn it to a dvd-r
[02:45] <pl_ice> katie^ mount it ;)
[02:45] <katie^> *sobs*
[02:45] <fcastelo> nalioth: I'm trying to install Firefox 1.5 in Breezy, however, it needs the libstdc++.so.5 file.
[02:46] <katie^> this sucks
[02:46] <katie^> major cook.
[02:46] <gnomefreak> !ff1.5
[02:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:46] <nalioth> fcastelo: you following the wiki?
[02:46] <kemik> katie^:  it's a dvd image
[02:46] <kemik> katie^:  burn it wit growisofs
[02:46] <prada> fcastelo: check /usr/lib or /lib/ for libstdc++.so.5
[02:46] <nalioth> pl_ice: /msg nickserv help ghost
[02:46] <katie^> i dont have a dvd buner
[02:46] <kemik> katie^:  mount it with mount htne
[02:46] <fcastelo> nalioth: didn't yet
[02:46] <katie^> mk
[02:46] <topyli> fcastelo: so install the library. i'm pretty sure the wiki page mentions the name of the package
[02:46] <nalioth> fcastelo: go read the wiki, please
[02:47] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, there is no lib by that name and if there was its not in the wiki
[02:47] <gnomefreak> follow the wiki word for word please and it will work out
[02:47] <prada> fcastelo: are you sure "sudo apt-get install libstdc++5" didn't work ?
[02:48] <gnomefreak> prada, he was looking for libstdc++5.so.5  and that is not a lib
[02:48] <pimonseter> Can anyone help a newbie? login messege "could not look up internet address for. This will prvent gnome from operation correctly
[02:48] <fcastelo> prada: Yes. And I've downloaded all the dependences of it too.
[02:49] <_jason> pimonseter, pastebin /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts
[02:49] <_jason> ubotu, tell pimonseter about pastebin
[02:49] <prada> gnomefreak: there IS a package called that ... it should be a symlink
[02:49] <fcastelo> prada. I'm already in root profile.
[02:49] <prada> gnomefreak: of course nor a library per se
[02:49] <gnomefreak> prada, its not a lib tho
[02:49] <gnomefreak> and you dont need it for ff1.5 :)
[02:50] <prism> hello guyz..
[02:50] <prada> gnomefreak: yeah ... agreed ... just a symlink
[02:50] <prism> help guyz
[02:50] <prism> am new here in ubuntu
[02:50] <prada> fcastelo: you really have some weird prob ...
[02:51] <gnomefreak> fcastelo, now down where it says installing type those lines one by one into the terminal than when that is done download the tar.gz
[02:51] <pixelfairy> is there an applet or something to show how much disk space is used/free?
[02:51] <snowblink> pixelfairy, df -h
[02:51] <pixelfairy> i mean for gnome-panel
[02:51] <prism> my problem is... how to run windows exe file in ubuntu OS withous any installed MS OS?
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pixelfairy about sensors
[02:51] <fcastelo> Oks. I'll try again. Tks all.
[02:51] <pixelfairy> yes, i could just "watch df -h"
[02:52] <prism> my problem is... how to run windows exe file in ubuntu OS without any installed MS OS?
[02:52] <prem_> prism: wine
[02:52] <gnomefreak> there should be one there
[02:52] <nalioth> pixelfairy: install 'discus' and run it in a console or install 'xdiskusage'
[02:52] <gnomefreak> atleast maybe :(
[02:52] <pixelfairy> nalioth: xdiskusage is really cool
[02:53] <pixelfairy> and so is xdu
[02:53] <nalioth> pixelfairy: ah, ty
[02:53] <pixelfairy> i was hoping the panel could replace gkrellm
[02:53] <_Rappy_> is there an apt-command, or some way in synaptic, to list all installed packages?
[02:53] <prada> fcastelo: last ditch try, do this "ln -sf libstdc++.so.5.0.7 libstdc++.so.5
[02:53] <prada> " in /usr/lib
[02:54] <pixelfairy> _Rappy_:  apt-cache search
[02:54] <nalioth> pixelfairy: there is one for kdes kicker, but not one i know of for gnome
[02:54] <gnomefreak> _Rappy_, in synaptic there should be a search and than installed
[02:55] <gnomefreak> in synaptic go to status than installed it will show you everything that is installed
[02:56] <sorush20> how do I get multiply sound playback in multiple applications?
[02:56] <prism> prem_: i've already downloaded the wine installer, but when am installing it my ubuntu said "error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH"
[02:57] <prem_> prism: apt-get install build-essential
[02:57] <zodiaq> im wondering what ubuntu is using instead of inetd? trying to get glftpd to work but can't seem to find inetd or xinetd :/
[02:57] <Ng> zodiaq: netkit-inetd afair
[02:58] <Ng> zodiaq: that and xinetd are available, just neither are installed by default
[02:59] <prism> prem_: E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied )
[02:59] <prism> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[03:00] <prism> prem_ sorry for being so noob, this is my first time actually
[03:00] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell prism about apt-get
[03:00] <prem_> prism:  sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:02] <eth42> I have a problem with firefox on breezy when I want to play the sound files available at the dictionary service of TU-Chemnitz: if you click on one of the little speaker icons on http://dict.tu-chemnitz.de/dings.cgi?query=Wanze, a sound file should be played. however, if flashplayer-mozilla is installed, nothing will be played, and you try to close the window, firefox will stall. Using libflash-mozplugin will also not play the file automaticall
[03:03] <eth42> btw, i could use the service on hoary before...
[03:03] <g0ju> ein chemnitzer
[03:03] <g0ju> hehe
[03:04] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell eth42 about restricted
[03:04] <midas> hi again :)
[03:04] <eth42> gnomefreak, i know about restricted
[03:05] <_jason> eth42, working here, but I'm using alsa.  Are you using esd?
[03:05] <eth42> gnomefreak, still it's bugging me
[03:05] <eth42> _jason: yes
[03:06] <_jason> eth42, does it work if you close all programs producing sound, close all firefox windows,  open firefox, and try?
[03:06] <esses> hi all
[03:06] <esses> does anyone use zd1211 driver?
[03:06] <eth42> _jason: tanks for the suggestions! just trying it out...
[03:06] <_jason> eth42, more of a debugging attempt as it would be annoying to do that everytime :P
[03:06] <eth42> s/tanks/thanks/ :-)
[03:07] <midas> i installed a new kernel ( sudo apt-get install linux-k7 linux-restricted-modules-k7),but when i want to start ubuntu with the kernel, my xorg.conf can not load the screen :( how can i uninstall the kernel again ??
[03:07] <_jason> eth42, let me know if that works.  I'll tell you what you can do to get it to work with esd (although flash sound will generally be laggy, in your case it won't matter)
[03:09] <eth42> _jason: turning off esd doesn't stall firefox anymore when I close the popup (using flashplayer-mozilla). no sound played though...
[03:09] <pickett> anyone know how i change the wm from metacity to xfwm4?
[03:10] <eth42> _jason: what is your hint about esd & flash?
[03:10] <_jason> eth42, you are using firefox 1.07?
[03:10] <eth42> _jason: yes, I'm using breezy packages only
[03:10] <theine_> pickett, I posted a howto on this in the forums
[03:10] <_jason> eth42, in a terminal: strings /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so  | grep esd
[03:11] <pickett> yeah...
[03:11] <pickett> did all that but metacity is still running
[03:11] <_jason> eth42, you see libesd.so.1 and /tmp/.esd/socket ?  If you check your system, you don't have those.  That's why it doesn't use esd
[03:11] <theine_> pickett, did you log out of gnome?
[03:11] <pickett> yeah
[03:12] <theine_> pickett, and did you try "rm ~/.gnome2/session"?
[03:12] <pickett> wait i'll try restarting my comp 1st
[03:12] <pickett> not yet
[03:12] <theine_> pickett, try that, if it still doesn't work
[03:13] <pickett> ok
[03:13] <theine_> pickett, or rather "mv ~/.gnome2/session ~" or something...
[03:13] <pickett> too late
[03:13] <theine_> pickett, doesn't matter...
[03:14] <eth42> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7203
[03:14] <eth42> huh! you're right about libesd.so.1 and /tmp/.esd/socket
[03:14] <eth42> do you have a way to fix this?
[03:14] <osfameron> bah, usb mouse keeps on freezing on new breezy install
[03:15] <osfameron> need to unplug and replug to get it kickstarted again
[03:15] <pickett> yes that worked, thanks theine_
[03:15] <osfameron> is that a known problem?
[03:15] <theine_> pickett, you're welcome
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> can iptables to bridging filters too or must I use ebtables? I thought iptables could not do bridging netfilter too.
[03:15] <_jason> eth42, of course, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76743, three pages but you should read it all.  Basically there are two ways to go about: create what is missing or modify libflashplayer.so.  Third option of course is not to use esd.
[03:15] <LeeJunFan> s/not/now
[03:16] <eth42> _jason: thank you very much! are you using flashplayer or the gpl equivalent?
[03:16] <_jason> eth42, flashplayer
[03:16] <eth42> _jason: so I'll see whether I'll get the file player with flashplayer & esd...
[03:17] <_jason> eth42, k
[03:17] <superante> help..
[03:17] <superante> sorry
[03:18] <yahalom_> hi guys. i have no internet connection at home. only at work, how can i do updates? any ideas?
[03:18] <Vashypooh> Update at work?
[03:18] <yahalom_> no i cant bring it to work. i wanted to put updates on a cd. no way?
[03:19] <Eghie_Work> there is a way
[03:19] <butcherbird> yahalom_: take a look at apt-zip
[03:19] <Eghie_Work> using debmirror
[03:19] <_lasse> is there any way to get 5.10 for amd64 up and running on a newer kernel than the default, 2.6.12?
[03:19] <LeeJunFan> debmirror? you'd need about 20 CD's heheh.
[03:19] <Meister_Lampe> there must be an option "download packages only". burn it, install em with dpkg...
[03:19] <Eghie_Work> hehe
[03:19] <yahalom_> i have no ubuntu at work
[03:20] <Eghie_Work> but it will update LeeJunFan
[03:20] <_lasse> or is there is an other way to get megaraid_sas/serial-scsi support?
[03:20] <theine_> _lasse, it can be done, but you might experience some breakage while trying to do so...
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> Eghie_Work: yeah, my USB HD has breezy and dapper on it for i386 and amd64 :)
[03:20] <yahalom_> thanx guys
[03:20] <LeeJunFan> Eghie_Work: full mirrors, not just updates.
[03:21] <_lasse> theine_ well, i need it so i will try.  pleas ? =)
[03:21] <eth42> _jason: perfect! thank you very much for the help! I just created the two missing files by symlinking, and it works perfectly
[03:21] <eth42> I wonder why there was no sound with libflash but *shrug* I've got work to do....
[03:21] <_lasse> theine_: err... directions please =)
[03:22] <Eghie_Work> LeeJunFan: here our gateway has full mirror of breezy (i386) (main, restricted, universe)
[03:22] <theine_> _lasse, go on the wiki ans search for kernel, there are a few howtos
[03:22] <_jason> eth42, the /tmp one you created will get deleted by your system (in case you missed that in the thread).  There are instructions for automatically recreating it
[03:22] <mkasyah> heyya everybi\ody
[03:23] <mkasyah> *everybody
[03:23] <eth42>  _jason: oh, ok, thanks! (yeah, I hadn't read it.) thanks!!
[03:23] <Meister_Lampe> @yahalom: get a live cd and download packages only, then install with dpkg...
[03:23] <katie^> is it a special day int he US or something?
[03:23] <Ng> yes, apparently
[03:23] <Ng> martin luthor king jr day
[03:24] <_lasse> theine_: thanks, but i need to get the installation running on newer kernel that has sas support. i don't think any of the howtos at the wiki covers that, or am i missing something?
[03:24] <LeeJunFan> Monday, no one here is really awake yet :)
[03:24] <veriz> can anyone tell me why
[03:24] <veriz> why im not able to log with telnet localhost?
[03:24] <veriz> sry for 2 lines :S
[03:26] <theine_> _lasse, hmmm, I guess you have to ry on your own then
[03:26] <theconartist> what can i use to extract rar archives on linux
[03:26] <theconartist> anything exsit ? :o
[03:26] <Ng> veriz: there's no telnet server installed by default, and you probably don't want telnet anyway - ssh is the way to go :)
[03:26] <Meister_Lampe> btw: is anyone here familar with the Extigy Soundcard?
[03:27] <theine_> _lasse, it would of course be much easier if you find a patch for megaraid sas that applies against 2.6.12 or even better if you could compile it as module without recompiling the whole kernel
[03:27] <Ng> theconartist: rar, or unrar, in universe/multiverse
[03:27] <veriz> Ng: but i need it for logging into different localhost ports :(
[03:27] <_lasse> theine_: yes, i supposed so. i still tought it was worth the try asking.
[03:28] <Ng> veriz: you want to use telnet to connect to local ports? that will work fine. which port are you trying to connect to?
[03:28] <_jason> If I close a window while flashplayer is playing something with sound it tends to cause firefox to hang indefinitely.  I am using firefox1.5 through aoss.  Does anyone else experience this?  Does anyone know of a solution?
[03:28] <theine_> _lasse, sure
[03:28] <Cereal> hey, I'm trying to install ubuntu 5.10 64-bit
[03:28] <katie^> thanks ng
[03:28] <_lasse> theine_: that would of cource be exelent.
[03:28] <veriz> Ng: a talker port: 7777, Example: telnet localhost 7777
[03:28] <Cereal> bu it always stops (hangs) wwhen its searching for cd-driver
[03:28] <Cereal> cd-drives I mean
[03:29] <Ng> veriz: ok, well if you have a talker running on that port, that should work fine
[03:29] <Cereal> I tried noapic and molapic but still
[03:29] <Cereal> anything else I should try?
[03:29] <veriz> Ng: Trying 127.0.0.1... and nothing else
[03:29] <Ng> veriz: then you don't havea  talker on that port, or you have a firewall in the way
[03:30] <veriz> Ng: but with telnet mydomain.com 7777 i can connct
[03:30] <Ng> then the talker is running, but not listening on the localhost interface
[03:30] <_lasse> theine_: i will try to figure something out. thanks.
[03:31] <veriz> Ng: huh im pretty new on ubuntu :( how can I make it listen to that interface?
[03:31] <blaaman1> Does somebody know how I can get ubuntu debs of OpenOffice 2.0.1 ?
[03:31] <theine_> _lasse, precisely which megaraid product do you have?
[03:32] <Ng> veriz: that depends on the talker, it'll be its configuration or one of its command line options
[03:32] <veriz> Ng: actually i even cant connect to telnet localhost :S maybe this might the problem?
[03:32] <Ng> veriz: nope, because there's no telnet server running
[03:33] <veriz> Ng: root 2945 0.0 0.0 1596 552 ? Ss 15:53 0:00 inetd
[03:33] <Ng> veriz: that's not a telnet server, that's inetd :)
[03:33] <veriz> Ng: oh:P
[03:33] <veriz> Ng: but what i need to install for telnetserver?
[03:34] <Ng> veriz: telnetd, but you really don't want to do that
[03:34] <iceraven> _jason thanks for your help, have got it up and running now.
[03:34] <_jason> iceraven, great
[03:34] <veriz> Ng: so better i don't have that thing: telnet localhost ?
[03:34] <veriz> Ng: better to connect with telnet mydomain.com 7777 ?
[03:35] <holycow> what do you guys use to monitor your cpu temp?
[03:35] <veriz> Ng: is it more secured by that way?
[03:35] <Ng> veriz: a telnet server lets you log into a machine like ssh does, but without security. that is completely different to using the telnet client to make socket connections
[03:36] <paitart> hi ppol! what program could i use to send and receive faxes? i am using 5.10. i need such a program for my work in media.
[03:36] <Seveas> !find fax
[03:36] <paitart> !find fax
 Ubuntu Package Listing of 'fax' (15 shown; 19 total): acfax ;; asterisk-app-fax ;; capi4hylafax ;; courier-faxmail ;; courier-faxmail ;; efax ;; efax-gtk ;; gfax ;; ghfaxviewer ;; hamfax ;; hylafax-client ;; hylafax-doc ;; hylafax-server ;; kfax ;; kfax.
[03:36] <Seveas> gfax sounds promising
[03:36] <FlipSt4R> !find xinetd
[03:36] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'xinetd' (2 shown): webmin-xinetd ;; xinetd.
[03:37] <egil> how to run a command which name is "geurocalc.py" ?
[03:37] <paitart> !find gfax
[03:37] <ubotu> gfax: (The GNU HaliFAX Sender), section universe/gnome, is extra. Version: 0.4.2-11 (breezy), Packaged size: 116 kB, Installed size: 664 kB
[03:37] <Seveas> egil, python geurocalc.py
[03:37] <veriz> Ng: thnx hope i got what i thought to get :P
[03:37] <paitart> seveas, i am a newbie. could u help me how to get and have it running on my computer?
[03:38] <eth42> _jasen: in your instructions for modifying libflashplayer.so, why did you change "1." to "0."?
[03:38] <eth42> _jason: in your instructions for modifying libflashplayer.so, why did you change "1." to "0."?
[03:38] <Rawplayer> why do you repeat?:)
[03:38] <Rawplayer> why do you repeat?:)
[03:38] <eth42> Rawplayer: *cough*
[03:38] <_lasse> theine_ : i cant remeber exalty. sas 1028 or something. i can check in a few minutes though
[03:39] <_jason> eth42, remember when we did strings balh blah blah, libflashplayer.so pointed to libesd.so.1, but in ubuntu there is only libesd.so.0
[03:39] <_jason> eth42, that way you don't need to create the symlink
[03:39] <eth42> _jason: hehe, you're right... I thought it belonged to the string following :-)
[03:40] <Kieren> Does anyone knwo what I type in the command line to find my LAN IP address?
[03:40] <KoruptPryde> okay..... I ran some dapper updates and now my wireless card is eth1 rather than wla0.... how do I change it back?
[03:40] <eth42> _jason: do you also have font problems in ghex2? it's not aligned properly here.
[03:40] <Xoritor> does apt-get have a search function?
[03:40] <Xoritor> or list
[03:40] <paitart> how could i put gfax on my computer?
[03:40] <Xoritor> or anything
[03:40] <Cereal> apt-cache search
[03:40] <_jason> eth42, yes I changed the font size to 10 I think?  Can't remember, either 1 up or 1 down than the normal
[03:41] <Xoritor> Cereal, thx
[03:41] <Cereal> np
[03:41] <_jason> eth42, display: monospace 12
[03:41] <KoruptPryde> how do I rename a network adapter?
[03:42] <eth42> Xoritor: depends on what you want to search
[03:42] <eth42> _jason: it was monospace 12. I've changed it to monospace 10, and now it works.
[03:42] <_jason> eth42, yeah taht was it, guess it doesn't save
[03:42] <eth42> _jason: have you checked whether this is already reported as a bug?
[03:42] <_jason> eth42, I haven't, I assumed it was macromedia's fault
[03:43] <eth42> _jason: no, I mean the ghex2 display problem
[03:43] <_jason> eth42, ah that, no I didn't.  I should, I'll do that now
[03:43] <Xoritor> eth42, i was searching for the name of the package to deal with .chm files (ebook format stuff)
[03:43] <Xoritor> and djvu
[03:44] <Kieren> man ifconfig
[03:44] <Kieren> oops
[03:44] <Kieren> wrong window
[03:44] <eth42> Xoritor: I use synaptic for searching within descriptions (although there should be some apt-get or dpkg command line equivalent)
[03:44] <eth42> you can search for package contents with apt-file (not installed by default)
[03:45] <Xoritor> eth42, i have used synaptic but would prefer cli utils
[03:46] <eth42> Xoritor: then man apt-get, I'd guess :-)
[03:46] <Kieren> found my own answer - incase anyone didn;t know, just typing 'ifconfig' will give your LAN address :)
[03:47] <_jason> eth42, do you see it here http://bugzilla.gnome.org/buglist.cgi?query=ghex ?
[03:47] <Xoritor> well the man page of apt-get does not even contain the word '\<search\>'
[03:47] <brasko> Hi all, I just setup apache2
[03:47] <brasko> I was wondering, where is a good place to put the webpage content?
[03:47] <_lasse> theine_ : it seems like i need to boot teh server on teh sun linux support cd to get the exakt information. sun.com does not say any modelnumber of the controler
[03:47] <brasko> I just want to put some simple pictures, and files up.
[03:47] <Xoritor> brasko, /var/www/
[03:47] <brasko> OK
[03:48] <_lasse> theine_: it is a sun x4200 if that helps in any way.
[03:48] <turf_> hi there. can anyone tell me why ubuntu 5.10 does not have a /etc/init.d/iptables script even though iptables is installed?
[03:48] <Xoritor> brasko, have you read/seen the FHS?
[03:48] <brasko> currently, apache2-default is in that directory
[03:48] <brasko> FHS? no, what's that.
[03:48] <Xoritor> brasko, you can make anything under that dir you want
[03:48] <brasko> OK, should I leave that folder there?
[03:48] <Xoritor> i usually make /var/www/virtuals/www.mydomain.tld
[03:48] <Xoritor> yes
[03:48] <gnomefreak> try man apt-cache
[03:48] <brasko> and, should I put stuff not in that folder? (what I hope)
[03:48] <Xoritor> unless you want to replace the default
[03:48] <eth42> _jason: nay, which bug id?
[03:49] <_jason> eth42, just wanted to make sure I wasn't duplicating, I didn't see it either
[03:49] <Xoritor> you could if you want to replace the default... it wont hurt anything at all
[03:49] <Xoritor> and cut down on the config you would have to do later to get other dirs to work
[03:49] <brasko> Xoritor: That folder has a ton of stuff in it, that I don't want to add to. For confusion sake.
[03:49] <Xoritor> heh
[03:49] <gnomefreak> to read what the package is you would type apt-cache showpkg <packagename>
[03:49] <redguy> turf_: which distro does have it?
[03:49] <Kieren> brasko - you can put your own index.html / php in there
[03:49] <Xoritor> i dont know what all is in it... i have not setup apache2 on ubuntu yet
[03:50] <Ap4ch3> brasko......it really depends on the expected size of your web sites and the way the disk system is partioned......what kind of website will u host and how is your disk partitioned?
[03:50] <brasko> Xoritor: Also, I get permission denied
[03:50] <_jason> brasko, have you resolved your issue with connecting to windows through freenx?  If not, I have an email that I received from them describing how to connect to their windows testdrive server and they seem to describe some of the technical stuff behind it.  If you'd like I can forward it to you
[03:50] <Kieren> or a content managment system if you like
[03:50] <Xoritor> brasko, you will have to put it there with sudo
[03:50] <brasko> Ap4ch3: A simple website, to share stuff with friends, nothing complex.
[03:50] <Ap4ch3> brasko....u can then use a directory in /home...
[03:50] <turf_> redguy: how can i stop/start iptables without it?
[03:50] <Ap4ch3> /home/username
[03:51] <brasko> _jason: I spent a considerable amount of time on it. I've determined that you need to have windows XP proffesional, to connect via RDP protocol.
[03:51] <Xoritor> brasko, sudo cp -a /path/to/my/htmlfiles /var/www/html
[03:51] <_jason> brasko, ah ok
[03:51] <Xoritor> Ap4ch3, gack! not the ~username
[03:51] <Xoritor> Ap4ch3, thats horrid for security
[03:52] <brasko> _jason: You still connect to a linux machine, behind the firewall, as if you were connecting to that machine. However, you tell during the client config, that you want to use windows. It allows you to enter the IP. This tells the freenx server, to connect and forward communication to the windows machine.
[03:52] <_jason> brasko, interesting
[03:52] <brasko> _jason: It uses rdesktop to translate RDP to X, and then you get the compression from the server behind the firewall, to the client out on the internet.
[03:52] <Xoritor> Ap4ch3, it means "other" gets at a minimum +x to your home dir then at a minimum 755 on the public_html for the files
[03:52] <brasko> _jason: They claim 2 to 10 times speed up.
[03:52] <Xoritor> Ap4ch3, and it tells everyone looking a valid username
[03:53] <brasko> _jason: So, since I have windows XP home, I'm going to try to use VNC next with windows.
[03:53] <Xoritor> Ap4ch3, etc... etc... etc...
[03:53] <redguy> turf_: try using shorewall. You dont 'start' or 'stop' the firewall. You just operate on the rules of netfilter. Netfilter is there in the kernel. iptables is just a tool to manipulate netfilter. shorewall is a nice front-end to iptables
[03:53] <_jason> brasko, yeah that's probably your best bet
[03:53] <brasko> So, could I do something like ln -s /home/bob/www /var/www/bob and, then put files in /home/bob/www?
[03:53] <brasko> Is that what people do?
[03:54] <brasko> _jason: It's to bad, remote desktop is a little cleaner I think, then VNC. However, it'd  be really nice to connect to it either way.
[03:54] <eth42> _jason: you're overwriting the given size of the string when you set it to /tmp/.esd-1000/socket, aren't you? are you sure that doesn't cause any problems?
[03:54] <turf_> redguy: i'm not running X11 or any kind of gui.... and already have iptables rules written :(
[03:54] <Xoritor> you could do something like that but i reverse it so you dont have to change permissions on your home dir
[03:54] <Xoritor> mkdir /var/www/bob
[03:54] <Ap4ch3> Xoritor...the same can be said for any directory u choose to host from .....right?
[03:55] <Xoritor> chmod 755 /var/www/bob
[03:55] <LinuxNT> Hello! I have a problem with my Ubuntu on Laptop... I have a resolution of 640 x 480 but I need 800 x 600 size minimal. The configuration says that I have three options 640 x 480, 800 x 600 and 1024 x 768. But the LCD screen display only at 640 x 480. What I need to change the configuration and correct this problem. All other funcions works fine, only the screen have this problem. The video card o
[03:55] <LinuxNT> r chip is S3 Virge MX. Thanks in advance! (Ref: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7197).
[03:55] <_jason> eth42, I'm not sure.  I know that it worked :P.  When I tried to just insert it and keep "Macromedia ..." intact, it caused firefox to crash at start
[03:55] <Xoritor> ln -s /var/www/bob /home/bob/www
[03:55] <Dalamar> im hoping to setup ubuntu on an old machine i have, but my new pc is connected directly to my cable modem .. i have a hub, but no router, is it possible for me to somehow use my internet connection through the hub/windows machine and get it to the ubuntu box? thanks
[03:55] <Ap4ch3> httpd has to run under 'some' username
[03:55] <Xoritor> then the link is from /home/bob/www -> /var/www/bob
[03:55] <Yoni> Hello all
[03:55] <Xoritor> and finally do soemthing like
[03:55] <Xoritor> chown -R bob:apache /var/www/bob
[03:56] <Yoni> How can I see in the file browser all the folders (especially those begins with "."), I'm using Ubuntu 5.10
[03:56] <Xoritor> in that latter case if the files are belonging to the apache webservers group you can even do things like
[03:56] <brasko> apparently apache isn't a group
[03:56] <redguy> turf_: shorewall doesn't require X.
[03:56] <redguy> !iptables
[03:57] <brasko> _jason: If the freenx stuff is still interesting, I'd be interested in seeing it.
[03:57] <brasko> _jason: Or do you think it wouldn't be helpful to me now?
[03:57] <Xoritor> brasko, right... but you should substitute the group apache2 runs as
[03:57] <redguy> ubotu dead again?
[03:57] <ubotu> No idea, redguy
[03:57] <brasko> drwxr-xr-x   2 root root 4096 2006-01-15 22:49 apache2-default
[03:57] <turf_> ok i'll check it out, redguy... cheers
[03:57] <brasko> Looks as if the directories are root.
[03:57] <Xoritor> brasko, then you can do things like find /var/www/bob -type d -exec chmod 750 {} \;
[03:57] <_jason> brasko, you can request a testdrive yourself.  I jsut told them I was a student and interested in their technology and they emailed me back in 2 days
[03:58] <redguy> turf_: or you could make your own initscript
[03:58] <Xoritor> brasko, and find /var/www/bob -type f -exec chmod 640 {} \;
[03:58] <brasko> www-data?
[03:58] <_jason> brasko, but I can also forward it to you for you to take a look, I don't know how useful it will be to you
[03:58] <Xoritor> brasko, so only your user and the apapche webserver have access to those files
[03:58] <Xoritor> brasko, other than root of course
[03:58] <brasko> _jason: O, right. The testdrive. Yeah, I saw that. They must have a windows machine setup with RDP?
[03:58] <eth42> _jason: yeah, probably it won't do any harm. probably the "Macromedia Flash Player" string is addressed with a fixed address. it becomes "ket" then. probably that does not do any harm, unless someone really depends on that string...
[03:58] <_jason> brasko, yeah
[03:59] <turf_> redguy: yes that would be ideal but i'm not sure i'd be up to it... i've just had the idea that if i upgrade iptables it may install the initscript....
[04:01] <redguy> ubotu: iptables is a tool to manipulate linux firewalling. There is no initscript for iptables. You can make your own initscript, based on /etc/init.d/skeleton, put it in /etc/init.d run update-rc.d. Firestarter and shorewall are front-ends to iptables, which have their initscripts.
[04:01] <ubotu> ...but iptables is already something else...
[04:01] <redguy> ubotu you liar
[04:01] <ubotu> redguy: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[04:01] <redguy> !iptables
[04:01] <tafsen> how can I downgrade Wine's OpenGL implementation?
[04:02] <redguy> ubotu, sorry for calling you a liar again
[04:03] <mjr> tafsen, what's that?
[04:03] <turf_> ok cool thx for info
[04:03] <eth42> _jason: you haven't reported the ghex bug yet, have you?
[04:03] <_jason> eth42, not yet, I'm etnering it now
[04:03] <trappist> there are some good existing init scripts for iptables
[04:03] <_jason> eth42, their bug submission tool is so gnome-like...
[04:03] <tafsen> mjr: Im trying to get WoW to work using wine, and I asked in a forum ( http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92367&page=20 )
[04:04] <eth42> _jason: don't you use the web interface for entering the bug?
[04:04] <_jason> eth42, yeah
[04:04] <brasko> OK, I have this really wierd problem with my router to. Apparently from outside the network the domain name resolves nicely. But from inside it doesn't work. Has anyone run into this before?
[04:04] <tafsen> mjr: and one guy there told me that I needed to downgrade Wine's OpenGL make it owrk
[04:04] <eth42> _jason: hehe, didn't notice that it's gnome-like. I'll try it out....
[04:04] <brasko> So many annoying small problems with setting up a new machine. Now I remember why I didn't mess with my debian install for 3 years.
[04:04] <mjr> tafsen, "or you can also use an older wine"; recommend that
[04:05] <_jason> eth42, what's the correct name for that window on the right where the problem occurs?
[04:05] <brasko> Xoritor: Thanks, the solution you provided works great!
[04:05] <Kieren> brasko:  have you allowed port forarding?
[04:05] <brasko> I port forward 81
[04:05] <brasko> I connnect through port 81, cause port 80 is blocked by my servour provider
[04:05] <tafsen> mjr: I installed a tweaked wine version for WoW... 0.9.3
[04:05] <Kieren> oh, so is you router letting 81 throgh to the LAN address of your server machine?
[04:05] <brasko> so from outside yyy.net:81 works, inside it doesn't
[04:06] <brasko> Kieren: yeah.
[04:06] <spacey_ki> make it listen on both ports?
[04:06] <spacey_ki> 80 for inside
[04:06] <trappist> brasko: you used iptables to do the port forwarding?
[04:06] <Kieren> oh, I don't know then.  II'm trying to set up a website myself & am running into a few problems too
[04:06] <brasko> From outside the network everything works, from inside it doesn't. From inside I have to do 192.1...:81 to make it work
[04:06] <Kieren> Mysql being the main one right now
[04:06] <ppd> hi, I have a problem with opera 8.5 taking too mache startup time for the first start. does anybody experience this problem ?
[04:06] <brasko> trappist: Nope, was given a dell router for free :(
[04:07] <spacey_ki> brasko, ofcourse
[04:07] <tafsen> mjr: does that Error you see on http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92367&page=20  say anything to you=
[04:07] <Kieren> http:localhost
[04:07] <eth42> _jason: mhhh.... i would call it the hex and the ascii pane/panel, i think, if that is what you mean. and i had the problem in both panes. (move the cursor left and right in the hex pane, the data is shifted to the wrong columns then)
[04:07] <Kieren> or is that not what you mean
[04:07] <Xoritor> brasko, no problem
[04:07] <_jason> eth42, yeah i see it now
[04:07] <spacey_ki> ofcourse you have to specify port if you want it on non default port
[04:07] <trappist> brasko: here's the problem.  you make a request to the router, which forwards it to the webserver, with the source ip intact.  webserver replies directly to you, but you're not looking for a reply from the webserver, because the request went to the router.  your router needs to do SNAT on the packet.
[04:08] <eth42> _jason: wait, there is a help
[04:08] <Micksa> okay, so I'm trying to recreate an old woody box in breezy
[04:08] <Micksa> a few things are not working :)
[04:08] <Micksa> for a start, does uw-imapd really do imap over ssl?
[04:08] <Micksa> cos it doesn't seem to care
[04:09] <eth42> _jason: yes, they call it "display pane", and speak of "the display area displays a hexadecimal view of the file"
[04:10] <_jason> eth42, got it thanks, I think i'll use your hex and ascii characterization of it.  Seems clearer
[04:11] <brasko> trappist: OK, I'm following. So, I ask for the IP. Get an external IP back. I connect via that IP from an internal address. The webserver responds, but the router doesn't know how to route a local IP address?
[04:12] <brasko> Would static routing help me out?
[04:12] <trappist> brasko: no, it's just that it forwards the packet with the source ip intact, which is correct for a host on the internet, because the reply will be routed back through the router, but doesn't work on the local network because the reply will go directly back to the requestor
[04:12] <brasko> O, I see!
[04:12] <Micksa> yeah, uw-imapd appears to just treat imaps as normal imap
[04:13] <brasko> Wierd. Why is that a problem again? I mean, it just comes back a different route.
[04:14] <trappist> brasko: you're sending the request to the router, but it's coming back directly from the webserver, so you ignore it since you're not expecting traffic from the webserver
[04:14] <pimonseter> can someone tell me what should be in my hosts file?
[04:15] <brasko> O, now I understand. It's not the same socket connection. Does the webserver connect back to the client?
[04:15] <Hollowman> can someone help me force my resolution to 1024x768?  i tried the xorg reconfig already
[04:15] <Dalamar> im hoping to setup ubuntu on an old machine i have, but my new pc is connected directly to my cable modem .. i have a hub, but no router, is it possible for me to somehow use my internet connection through the hub/windows machine and get it to the ubuntu box? thanks
[04:15] <_jason> eth42, okay should be there now
[04:15] <Kieren> Does anyone have any opinions on a good cblogging software for a home setup - movable type, joomla, word press etc?
[04:16] <Hollowman> can someone help me force my resolution to 1024x768?  i tried the xorg reconfig already
[04:16] <frazmanw> I have installed the ati drivers from ati according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto page, and my X no longer functions. Anyone have ideas on what could be wrong?
[04:16] <Xenguy> Kieren: wordpress
[04:16] <Xenguy> Hollowman: try reducing colours from 24 to 16 in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:16] <Kieren> xenguy: I've been looking t word press they seem to have good support
[04:17] <Xenguy> Kieren: best option from what I hear
[04:17] <Linker> hi
[04:18] <Kieren> well, hopefully I'll have something up & running in a few hous if I can get mysql running & sort out all the needed permissions et al
[04:18] <trappist> brasko: it doesn't *connect* back to the client - it just sends an ack packet in response to the syn request, which is dropped
[04:18] <Kieren> thanks
[04:18] <Hollowman> how do you save in nano?
[04:18] <eth42> _jason: perfect!
[04:18] <eth42> :-)
[04:18] <smtkr> ^w?
[04:18] <brasko> trappist: OK, at the TCP level then. I understand.
[04:18] <Kieren> I''m off for some tea, biscuits & typing
[04:18] <Xenguy> kitsch: have fun
[04:18] <redguy> Hollowman: Ctrl-O
[04:18] <Linker> how come you can not copy and past
[04:19] <Hollowman> do i have to do sudo nano /ect/X11/xorg.conf?
[04:19] <trappist> brasko: in iptables you fix this with a SNAT rule that rewrites the source ip of the requestor, so the reply gets routed back through the router.  on free dell routers, I dunno what you do :)
[04:19] <Hollowman> so i can save it
[04:19] <Linker> true
[04:19] <brasko> trappist: O, that's awesome. Yeah, I never had this problem with my linux 2.2 with iptables.
[04:19] <kitsch> Xenguy: whaa? :D
[04:19] <brasko> 2.4 rather.
[04:19] <Nihil85> hi! i've a big problem: i cannot change the time, i cannot start an automatic system upgrade and a lot of other things. The error is about some files that I healed with fsck cause they had a file sysstem error. What can i do?
[04:20] <Linker> same here
[04:20] <redguy> Nihil85: sounds like you didn't heal them at all
[04:20] <pimonseter> Howdo  I open my hosts file? I'm typing sudo gedit /etc/hosts
[04:20] <smtkr> Hollowman: yes
[04:20] <Nihil85> redguy, i know. what can i do? it's terrible
[04:20] <eth42> _jason: another issue about the modification of libflashplugin.so. My guess is that this modification only works for users with uid 1000.
[04:20] <Hollowman> now i have to do ctl-alt-backspace to restart x, right?
[04:20] <Hollowman> after i change it to 16 bit
[04:21] <_jason> eth42, ah didn't realize that's what it was for.  You are probably right
[04:22] <Nihil85> redguy, do you have a solution for a problem like this?
[04:22] <redguy> Nihil85: not sure really
[04:23] <Linker> GEEKS!!!!!!!
[04:23] <redguy> Nihil85: maybe someone else can help you, sorry
[04:23] <Linker> We Rock!!!!
[04:23] <gnomefreak> what path should i install realplayer 10 to? i want to use it with mozilla?
[04:24] <Ng> gnomefreak: I use /usr/local/RealPlayer
[04:24] <brasko> Since the machine with the web server I'm trying to connect to is linux, can I modify it somehow, to send packets from :::81 back to the webserver?
[04:24] <Linker> later losers!!!!!!!!
[04:24] <gnomefreak> ty
[04:24] <brasko> trappist: Meaning, I do have control over the webserver machine, and it is linux.
[04:25] <trappist> brasko: you mean back to the router?
[04:25] <milestone> is there something similar to ksmoothdock to gnome?
[04:25] <trappist> brasko: it might be doable, I've never tried such a thing
[04:26] <gnomefreak> oops
[04:27] <brasko> Wow, my first real snag with this router.
[04:27] <sword> whats up
[04:27] <sword> any of you guys have an rca lyra?
[04:27] <sword> or a generic mp3 player such as a creative muvo?
[04:28] <tafsen> How can I get sound on neverball?
[04:28] <brasko> The wierd thing is, everyone at my work uses these routers, and when I finally try, I get this problem. Each person I ask why it doesn't work gives me a different reason :)
[04:30] <trappist> brasko: I deal with firewalls all day, and this is the #1 most frequently asked question in #iptables :)
[04:30] <trappist> s/firewalls/routers/ if you like
[04:31] <sword> no people here w/ mp3 players?
[04:31] <trappist> sword: oh, I happen to have one of those
[04:31] <trappist> well, my daughter does
[04:31] <brasko> trappist: Thanks, the answer was really helpful.
[04:31] <sword> what do you use to add / remove music?
[04:31] <sword> and save / edit playlists
[04:31] <sword> isnt there a linux program for that?
[04:32] <gnomefreak> !mp3
[04:32] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:32] <Xoritor> how stable is dapper at this time?
[04:32] <trappist> sword: I use konqueror... drag and drop.  when I plug it in, a file manager window pops up and an rca_lycra icon appears on the desktop.  I use kde, though.
[04:32] <Ng> Xoritor: un
[04:32] <sword> ahh thats what I use now
[04:32] <gnomefreak> Xoritor, no where near stable
[04:32] <Ng> Xoritor: it's unstable until April
[04:32] <Xoritor> Ng, lol
[04:32] <sword> but I guess I was looking for something with more 'power' ?
[04:32] <Xoritor> Ng, but is it useable ?
[04:32] <Ng> Xoritor: it will be usable in April
[04:32] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:32] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[04:32] <Xoritor> Ng, i can deal with some unstablility
[04:33] <trappist> sword: something probably exists.  amarok should be able to do it in a release or two, but not yet.
[04:33] <sword> trappist, maybe you can help me w/ another thing? :)
[04:33] <Ng> Xoritor: if you know enough to handle an unstable debian-ish system then you don't need to ask in here ;)
[04:33] <sword> yeah i thought amorak would but it doesnt detect it
[04:33] <sword> would you happen to have an unused belt clip for the rca lyra sport? :D
[04:33] <Ng> Xoritor: but it could explode tomorrow, it all depends when you update it relative to when new packages go in
[04:33] <trappist> sword: heh, no
[04:33] <Xoritor> i am good enough to handle my own "linux from scratch" unstable system
[04:33] <sword> damn
[04:33] <Xoritor> Ng, right... i get that
[04:33] <sword> i broke mine and now i gotta either superglue it or somehow steal one lol
[04:34] <sword> b/c i dont think rca replaces them
[04:34] <sword> unfortunately
[04:34] <sword> otherwise i'd buy one
[04:34] <Xoritor> Ng, plus i have "rolled my own" distro a time or 2 ;-)
[04:34] <Ng> Xoritor: I'm not running it myself yet and I generally assume that if people are asking they shouldn't be using it, but you'll probably cope
[04:34] <MrSunshine> can i install older kernels then the most recent one in ubuntu ?
[04:35] <trappist> Ng: I made a real ass of myself once making that assumption
[04:35] <Xoritor> Ng, i always like to ask before... you can never have enough info
[04:35] <MrSunshine> to see if its kernel/nvidia driver issue that my linux freezes
[04:35] <Ng> trappist: I think it's a safe assumption :)
[04:35] <gnomefreak> banshee is used with ipod to add remove songs might work with mp3 players too
[04:35] <trappist> Ng: I used to too
[04:35] <sword> hmm okay
[04:35] <Ng> trappist: how did you make an ass of yourself?
[04:35] <sword> what do you guys use to tag your mp3s?
[04:35] <Dalamar> im hoping to setup ubuntu on an old machine i have, but my new pc is connected directly to my cable modem .. i have a hub, but no router, is it possible for me to somehow use my internet connection through the hub/windows machine and get it to the ubuntu box? thanks
[04:35] <brasko> trappist: Someone here is raving it's a serurity problem. Have you ever heard of anything like this?
[04:35] <Xoritor> Ng, trappist, i make an ass of myself regularly
[04:35] <trappist> Ng: by telling somebody straight up if he had to ask, he should stay away
[04:36] <cap_cha0s> has anyone an idea if its possible to run itunes on ubuntu?
[04:36] <trappist> brasko: it's not a security problem.  it's a missing feature.  this feature is missing in a lot of routers/firewalls.
[04:36] <trappist> cap_cha0s: yes, with codeweavers crossover office
[04:36] <KoruptPryde> okay, whose bright idea was it to totally fsck up wireless in the newest dapper update?
[04:36] <brasko> trappist: OK, that sounds correct. Thanks for all the help.
[04:36] <Ng> trappist: I still reckon that's entirely fair enough - if he was someone who should have known better than to ask then it was his bad ;)
[04:36] <cap_cha0s> thank u
[04:36] <brasko> trappist: In the future, if I buy one now, should I look for SNAP functionality?
[04:37] <lapo> hi
[04:37] <sword> grr gotta change all these permissions
[04:37] <trappist> brasko: SNAT - and not necessarily.  it probably won't be listed in the brochure.  my advice would be to build a cheap linux box and make that your router.
[04:37] <Xophilius> hello mates
[04:37] <Ng> sword: I use easytag, it's a bit unfriendly to work with, but quite powerful
[04:37] <trappist> yeah easytag is pretty awesome
[04:38] <brasko> trappist: That's what I had :)
[04:38] <brasko> trappist: I'm definatly moving backwards here.
[04:39] <brasko> trappist: So I'd connect the linux box to the service provider's router, and then the wireless router inside that network?
[04:39] <trappist> brasko: yes
[04:40] <karen_> oi
[04:40] <Ng> oi yourself ;)
[04:40] <the_thing> hi all, with what can i convert flac to mp3 on ubuntu
[04:40] <brasko> trappist: thanks again for all the help!
[04:40] <redguy> oi! nutter!
[04:40] <karen_> hi
[04:40] <karen_> kem ker tc?
[04:40] <_jason> karen_, what?
[04:40] <karen_> kcdarkangel@hotmail.com
[04:40] <Hollowman> what kind of programs are out there to increase linux performance?  like there is a disk defrag for windows.... etc
[04:40] <karen_> ops
[04:40] <karen_> sorry
[04:41] <KoruptPryde> anybody else having problems with wireless in dapper after the newest course of updates???
[04:41] <Kyral> Hollowman: uhh...defrag isn't needed ;P
[04:41] <karen_> speaK portuguese?
[04:41] <Xophilius> mates, is python the default language for ubuntu?
[04:41] <Kyral> Hollowman: There are system level tweaks
[04:41] <_jason> !pt
[04:41] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[04:41] <Kyral> Xophilius: Eh, kinda. Mark is a Python Nut ;P
[04:41] <Xophilius> lol
[04:41] <jenda> Anyone know how to make the xmms status docklet appear in the panel, not as a window, on startup (or at any time)?
[04:41] <trappist> the_thing: can probably use mencoder
[04:42] <Kyral> the GUI is the thing that affects performance most
[04:42] <karen_> alguem fala portugus aki?
[04:42] <Kyral> I mean like, KDE tends to take more resources than Fluxbox
[04:42] <Hollowman> hmm... i made a share on my linux box, but i need a username and password to access it from my windows box
[04:42] <Hollowman> my login username/password doens't work... what would i use?
[04:42] <_jason> karen_, sim, mas aqui e so ingles.  Vai a #ubuntu-pt e #ubuntu-br
[04:43] <trappist> Hollowman: smbpasswd username
[04:43] <Nihil85> hi! hi have a problem: i cannot change the time. The error is about some files that i healed (or supposed to be) with fsck, because the had corrupt file system. mkdir and sudo time-admin told me that these files are not folders... I can't understand the situation. Can anyone help me?
[04:43] <Hollowman> trappist, what?
[04:43] <trappist> Hollowman: you need to set up a samba user that matches a system user.  use smbpasswd for that.
[04:43] <karen_> bye bye
[04:43] <brasko> Nihil85: I had this problem recently. and had to reinstall.
[04:43] <Kyral> We should redirect all hostmasks with .br to #ubuntu-br ;P
[04:43] <brasko> Nihil85: Although there is probably a solution, I spent several hours on it.
[04:43] <Nihil85> brasko, now i'm VERY HAPPY
[04:44] <Kyral> Hollowman: Linux tends to take care of itself
[04:44] <brasko> Nihil85: Wait, I might have misunderstood you. I had a bad time on a file system. Is this your problem?
[04:44] <Kyral> Hollowman: I mean if you really wanna go system level you can do some nice tweaks...
[04:44] <brasko> Nihil85: the power went off, and fsck couldn't fix the time on the super block.
[04:44] <trappist> Nihil85: what exactly is your error message
[04:45] <brasko> Nihil85: It would claim to, but next time I restarted, it wasn't fixed.
[04:45] <Nihil85> brasko, this is not my matter. I can't change date and time in Ubuntu, in the upper panel, you see. The error is in Italian, now i will translate.
[04:45] <trygve> any java programmers around?
[04:45] <_jason> trygve, #java probably ahs some
[04:46] <Xophilius> no
[04:46] <trygve> true, but my question is (I think) ubuntu specific
[04:46] <Xophilius> php and perl here
[04:46] <_jason> trygve, then just ask
[04:46] <Kyral> Python...PHP...HTML....Debian Packaging ;P
[04:46] <jenda> How do I make the xmms status docklet appear in the panel, not as a window, on startup (or at any time)?
[04:46] <ejofee> in liferea, how do i delete all news from a feed with more than 20 news?
[04:46] <Hollowman> so would i do smbpasswd -a newaccount
[04:47] <Nihil85> trappist, the error is: nihil@Olidata:~$ sudo time-admin
[04:47] <Nihil85> Impossible to chmod 0700 for the Gnome user configuration directory /root/.gnome2_private/: Not a directory
[04:47] <Nihil85> brasko, i reboot the pc, but the result is the same
[04:47] <trappist> Nihil85: sudo rm -rf /root/.gnome2_private && sudo mkdir /root/.gnome2_private
[04:47] <trygve> well, I followed the ubuntu starter guide instructions for installing the jdk, and that appears to have worked.  my first hello world type program compiled and ran fine.  but then I found wasn't able to import other classes.  I think I just need to set a CLASSPATH environment variable, but I can't find the directory I should be setting it to
[04:48] <Hollowman> so would i do smbpasswd -a newaccount
[04:48] <Hollowman> ?
[04:48] <Nihil85> trappist, HOW CAN I KISS YOU?
[04:48] <trappist> Hollowman: yes, as root
[04:48] <brasko> trygve: If you used dpkg, you  could try dpkg -L javapackagename, to look for the path to the installed files.
[04:48] <trappist> Nihil85: :)
[04:48] <Hollowman> trappist, so just do sudo in front?
[04:48] <trappist> Hollowman: yes
[04:48] <Nihil85> trappist, can you tell me what i done?
[04:48] <Nihil85> i waqnt to understand
[04:49] <dwerf> question: where is the list of repositories located?
[04:49] <Nihil85> *i've done
[04:49] <trappist> Nihil85: you removed that file/folder if it was there (it probably didn't exist, or was a file) and created it as a directory
[04:49] <Kyral> dwerf: Official ones?
[04:49] <dwerf> no, all
[04:49] <Kyral> ubotu tell dwerf about repos
[04:49] <Mestapheles> hi
[04:49] <Nihil85> trappist, thanks a lot
[04:49] <Kyral> dwerf: there are literally millions of unofficial repos :P
[04:49] <trappist> np
[04:49] <Kyral> ubotu just PM'd the official ones
[04:49] <trygve> thanks brasko, I'll see what I can find with that
[04:49] <ubotu> Kyral: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[04:49] <Mestapheles> has anyone had trouble getting cups working over a minimal install?
[04:49] <Kyral> ...
[04:49] <dwerf> i know that
[04:50] <Hollowman> it said guest is not an account
[04:50] <dwerf> i just want to know where in my system the list of it is
[04:50] <ejofee> in liferea, how do i delete all news from a feed with more than 20 news?
[04:50] <Kyral> dwerf: apt-get.org?
[04:50] <Kyral> oh oh oh
[04:50] <trappist> Hollowman: it has to match a system account
[04:50] <Hollowman> when i tried sudo smbpasswd -a guest
[04:50] <Kyral> dwerf: /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:50] <Hollowman> so i have to make a system account first?
[04:50] <trappist> yes
[04:50] <dwerf> thanx
[04:50] <Nihil85> trappist, ehmmmm... there's another error: the window appears, but it's empty and freezed....
[04:50] <Hollowman> trappist, ok thanks... let met ry that'
[04:50] <trappist> Nihil85: don't know what to do about that one :)
[04:51] <Kyral> Wow I misunderstood THAT one
[04:51] <Nihil85> trappist, maybe inside that folder there was a lot of important things that allowed time changing?
[04:51] <inez> hallo iedereen
[04:51] <Hollowman> is a password required
[04:51] <Nihil85> *there were
[04:51] <inez> zijn hier ook Nederlanders
[04:51] <Kyral> !nl
[04:51] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:51] <trappist> Nihil85: usually in a case like that the application would rebuild the folder, but I don't use gnome so I dunno what's supposed to be in there
[04:51] <inez> ??? hebben jullie ook UBUNTU??
[04:52] <Kyral> I hope thats the right language
[04:52] <mtlife> kyral yes it is :)
[04:52] <Nihil85> i try to reboot the system
[04:52] <Kyral> inez: #ubuntu-nl
[04:52] <inez> hello everybody! where you come from??
[04:52] <snowblink> How can I see what is soft-linking to a file?
[04:52] <Hollowman> ok i added guest as a local account
[04:52] <inez> comming
[04:52] <Kyral> Northeast US :P
[04:52] <Hollowman> now, sudo smbpasswd -a guest?
[04:52] <Kyral> snowblink: like a symlink?
[04:52] <inez>  How old are you??
[04:52] <gnomefreak> inez, this is a help channel please take offtopic chat to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:53] <snowblink> Kyral, yup
[04:53] <Xophilius> how compatible is mysql to ubuntu?
[04:53] <Kyral> Old enough to be a Maintainer ;P
[04:53] <inez> oh! I done't know dat:P
[04:53] <Hollowman> now, sudo smbpasswd -a guest?
[04:53] <inez> i'm 11
[04:53] <Kyral> snowblink: uh....ls -lah?
[04:53] <dwerf> damn, i ****ed up my /etc/apt/sources.list - could someone tell where i can find an example for breezy?
[04:53] <trappist> Hollowman: yes
[04:53] <Kyral> Xophilius: it works nicely
[04:53] <Ng> !sources
[04:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:53] <Ng> dwerf: ^^
[04:53] <Xophilius> ah k..
[04:53] <Kyral> crap
[04:53] <mtlife> is there a tutorial somewhere on how to setup routing and a firewall in ubuntu via the console? cant find it with google
[04:53] <Kyral> classtime
[04:53] <inez> Where is by UBUNTU word?
[04:54] <Hollowman> Failed to initialise SAM_ACCOUNT for user guest. Does this user exist in the UNIX password database ?
[04:54] <Hollowman> Failed to modify password entry for user guest
[04:54] <Hollowman> thats what happens
[04:54] <inez> "word"  for letters you know
[04:54] <snowblink> Kyral, trying to list all the symlinks of a file
[04:54] <trappist> dwerf: www.linuxkungfu.org/files/etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <Xophilius> inez: "Ubuntu" is an ancient African word, meaning "humanity to others".
[04:55] <inez> I'm Dutch! I done;t understand it
[04:55] <redguy> !confuse inaz
[04:55] <ubotu> redguy: I don't know
[04:55] <redguy> :/
[04:55] <jono> hi all
[04:55] <gnomefreak> lol redguy you need a bot to confuse the kid?
[04:55] <trappist> inez: /join #ubuntu-nl
[04:55] <jono> am I right in thinking that DVD playback is still not available ina default Ubuntu install?
[04:55] <trappist> jono: yes
[04:55] <redguy> gnomefreak: i'm lazy these days....
[04:55] <inez> I'm dutch! I done't  understand it!
[04:56] <gnomefreak> lol
[04:56] <trappist> jono: it probably never will be
[04:56] <dwerf> trappist, hartelijk dank
[04:56] <inez> gnomefreak: ben jij Nederlands?? en Dwerf??
[04:56] <jono> trappist, thought so, thanks :)
[04:56] <Xophilius> kyral, have experience in mysql?
[04:56] <dwerf> jaja een echte kaaskop
[04:56] <_jason> inez, I'm dutch! I done't understand it!
[04:56] <inez> Whats Print Scrn SysRq??
[04:56] <_jason> /join #ubuntu-nl
[04:56] <dwerf> inez > jaja een echte kaaskop
[04:56] <Myrtti> olkaa hiljaa kun ette kerran osaa puhua englantia
[04:57] <pl_ice> english
[04:57] <pl_ice> pls
[04:57] <Myrtti> indeed
[04:57] <mtlife> is there a tutorial somewhere on how to setup routing and a firewall in ubuntu via the console? cant find it with google :(
[04:57] <gnomefreak> !nl
[04:57] <ubotu> Op #ubuntu-nl staat de koffie al voor je klaar.
[04:57] <ejofee> in liferea, how do i delete all news from a feed with more than 20 news?
[04:57] <inez> DWERF> ik snap niks van die taal
[04:57] <Ng> mtlife: google should turn up lots of linux routing/firewall guides
[04:57] <inez> *beetje*
[04:57] <pl_ice> mtlife routing will be covered with firewall setup, just look for firewall howotos
[04:58] <mtlife> ok lemme try and google that :)
[04:58] <pl_ice> mtlife got heaps, if u want, books etc
[04:58] <Xophilius> i ordered 5 pc cds of ubuntu today, how long would it take to reach india, approximately?
[04:58] <kasemodz> hey my wireless card is detected and it scans access points just can't get an ip from them
[04:58] <mtlife> pl_ice: isnt there anywhere a rough guide on console ubuntu? without x-windows
[04:59] <kasemodz> do you know why it may not
[04:59] <pl_ice> mtlife for firewalls, u will find it's most from console...
[04:59] <Ng> mtlife: probably not specific to ubuntu because the same things will work on debian and other linux distros
[04:59] <jenda> How do I make the xmms status docklet appear in the panel, not as a window, on startup (or at any time)?
[04:59] <redguy> mtlife: console ubuntu is just like debian, except for the root part that is
[04:59] <Ng> mtlife: so try using "linux" instead of "ubuntu" in your google searches
[04:59] <pl_ice> jenda i think it can be done via devilspy program
[04:59] <kasemodz> how do i get files from a cvs server?
[05:00] <mtlife> will do so, but some commands are a little different in ubuntu :) and since i'm lazy.. i like copy paste guides :p
[05:00] <jenda> pl_ice: hmm. could you please expand on that? Never heard of it.
[05:00] <Ng> mtlife: you do not want to be doing firewall/routing stuff with copy&paste, you want to be thinking about it, otherwise you will be less secure :)
[05:00] <pl_ice> jenda i think that progs. is called devilspy and it changes the windows etc on console
[05:00] <Ng> pl_ice: devilspie
[05:01] <Xophilius> 9:)
[05:01] <gnomefreak> !midi
[05:01] <pl_ice> ;)
[05:01] <ubotu> methinks midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[05:01] <pl_ice> close
[05:01] <pl_ice> i'm drunk ;)
[05:03] <jenda> Ng pl_ice: Ah! Devil's pie... I have heard of that. I'll check it out, but I do not think that's what I'm looking for. My xmms docklet appeared as a tiny window instead in the panel as it should, and normally would. I closed it and now have no way of accessing the still running xmms
[05:03] <KoruptPryde> jenda, "killall xmms"
[05:03] <pl_ice> jenda i have many problems with xmms u/d breezy
[05:03] <Ng> many people seem to prefer beep-media-player to xmms
[05:04] <Ng> personally I prefer rhythmbox, which lives in the systray :)
[05:04] <gnomefreak> i give up ill brb
[05:04] <jenda> KoruptPryde: Yeah, I did that. But I'd still like to have it work as it should when I turn the machine on (as rare as that is...)
[05:04] <jenda> pl_ice: Of course you do - you are drunk ;)
[05:05] <pl_ice> jenda c'mon ;) have u tried running itouch or wma plugins? they crash my xmms, for u try rm .xmms maybe the conf. got buggered
[05:06] <Xoritor> i will say this... setting up ubuntu is easy
[05:06] <Xoritor> things work... and work well
[05:06] <jenda> pl_ice: Oh come on... I ain't removing all my conf. Don't give advice like that.
[05:06] <pl_ice> Xoritor i agree! i've tried many distrib.
[05:06] <redguy> Xoritor: when they work...
[05:06] <Hollowman> ok... i made my guest account
[05:06] <Hollowman> now who
[05:06] <Hollowman> what
[05:06] <jenda> Xoritor: Good to hear :)
[05:06] <Xoritor> even the issue i had with gcc-4.0 vs gcc-3.4
[05:06] <jenda> Hollowman: what do you mean?
[05:07] <pl_ice> jenda heheh try ;) just for .xmms make a backup then slowly u can find out which line is worng etc
[05:07] <Hollowman> to be able to access my share from windows
[05:07] <Xoritor> ie... kernels compiled with gcc-3.4 and gcc-4.0 shipping so i couldnt build the nvidia module
[05:07] <Hollowman> someone said make a system account first
[05:07] <KoruptPryde> jenda, "killall xmms && rm -rf ~/.xmms"
[05:07] <Hollowman> and i named it guest
[05:07] <Ng> Xoritor: install gcc-3.4 and you can compile modules fine
[05:07] <Ng> Xoritor: it's in the repositories
[05:07] <pl_ice> don't give me any more beeeerr ;)
[05:08] <trappist> Hollowman: did you sudo smbpasswd -a guest
[05:08] <Hollowman> i tried... it turned out kinda weird
[05:08] <Hollowman> hold on i'll show you
[05:08] <Ng> Xoritor: as are the nvidia drivers though, so you don't really need to build them yourself
[05:08] <Hollowman> wtf
[05:08] <jenda> KoruptPryde pl_ice: oh come on. I killed it already and when I restart it it's OK. It's at startup that it screwes up, and I don't think it's in the conf.
[05:08] <Hollowman> now it works
[05:08] <Hollowman> ok
[05:08] <Hollowman> now after i do that....
[05:08] <Hollowman> then?
[05:08] <Xoritor> Ng, i installed gcc-3.4 once i realized i needed to
[05:09] <Xoritor> Ng, the drives in the repo are ancient
[05:09] <jenda> KoruptPryde pl_ice: I mean, system startup
[05:09] <Rayen> Hi, I have cancelled the installation of Ubuntu because it hanged: "Removing xresprobe ..." , how could I restart (the second part of) the installation ?
[05:09] <KoruptPryde> jenda, why do you have xmms running on login anyway?
[05:09] <Ng> Xoritor: they're not *that* old, and they work :)
[05:09] <pl_ice> jenda the .xmms config tells xmms how it soupposed to start up etc, any other programs do that?
[05:09] <Xoritor> Ng, once i had gcc-3.4 installed i just fixed the /usr/bin/gcc symlink installed and went on
[05:09] <Xoritor> Ng, for 64bit platforms the old ones are buggy
[05:09] <jenda> KoruptPryde: is there a reason not to? I can't stand more than say three seconds without music.
[05:10] <Xoritor> Ng, the new ones are much more stable
[05:10] <Xoritor> Ng, MUCH more stable
[05:10] <Ng> Xoritor: ok, well for such unfortunate situations there is gcc-3.4
[05:10] <Unity> is there an application that i can use to capture video off my screen?
[05:10] <jenda> pl_ice: Xmms works porfectly, except for the docklet, which appears in a window instead of the system tray
[05:10] <Ng> Xoritor: are you asking for help with this or just ranting? ;)
[05:10] <Xoritor> Ng, neither really
[05:10] <Ng> Xoritor: well this is a support channel...
[05:10] <Hollowman> ok... now that i can access my files, how do i set permissions?
[05:11] <Xoritor> Ng, i am saying how easy ubuntu is even with a few oddities
[05:11] <DjDarkman> hy ,what is Segmentation fault?
[05:11] <pl_ice> jenda really, try backing up .xmms ! remove it.. c what happens!
[05:11] <Ng> DjDarkman: it means the program crashed
[05:11] <Hollowman> ex... on the windows box when you have to log into the linux box, you have to get on as guest to see guest files, and main account to see main files
[05:11] <Hollowman> do you know what i mean?
[05:11] <jenda> pl_ice: Okeydoke. I will, but not just now.
[05:11] <jenda> pl_ice: thanks
[05:11] <pl_ice> ;)
[05:11] <KoruptPryde> jenda: for the afformentioned reasons, if it breaks on login..... then run it manually so it doesn't break
[05:12] <morphix> can someone help me... when i enable my onboard ide controller for my 5th & 6th IDE and also SATA when i try to boot into ubuntu.. it kernel panics.. and also IRQ dies
[05:12] <ZiX> hi i wondered how i could install Ubuntu on a box which already has windows on it, i don't want anything to get lost so what do i do?
[05:12] <ZiX> morphix: ouch..
[05:12] <pl_ice> morphix couse the ide where kernel sits changes
[05:12] <ZiX> morphix: i don't know
[05:13] <Hollowman> ex... on the windows box when you have to log into the linux box, you have to get on as guest to see guest files, and main account to see main files
[05:13] <Hollowman> ex... on the windows box when you have to log into the linux box, you have to get on as guest to see guest files, and main account to see main files
[05:13] <Hollowman> oppps
[05:13] <jenda> KoruptPryde: Good point
[05:13] <midas> hi @ll
[05:13] <morphix> pl_ice, i am running ubuntu off my usb enclosured hdd
[05:14] <morphix> also.. when i have them enabled.. during ubuntu install.. it fails to find the cdrom drive
[05:14] <morphix> so yeh.. its borked
[05:14] <pl_ice> morphix i could say that the ide changes and it looks in differnt place for the boot up
[05:14] <butcherbird> ZiX: you have freespace on the hard drive or need to free some up?
[05:14] <ZiX> need some free up
[05:14] <ejofee> is it possible to delete 58 news from a feed in liferea?
[05:15] <pl_ice> !beer
[05:15] <pl_ice> yaaaaa
[05:15] <redguy> !botsnack
[05:15] <ubotu> thanks redguy :)
[05:15] <mtlife> ok since i'm quite a newby on linux server (still working with freesco) is it maybe smart to install x-win so that its easier for me to config.. and when i'm done configuring close it?
[05:15] <Hollowman> how do i change network permissions on a folder?
[05:15] <butcherbird> ZiX: havent really used linux tool to resize partitions but i believe ubuntu install disk can do that for you
[05:15] <ZiX> can it?
[05:15] <midas> i've installed the k7 kernel,and now my xorg.conf wont load correct. When i change the line  :Driver "nvidia" to "nv" it works,but i dont see the nvidia screen anymore. Whats the prob. ??
[05:15] <ZiX> without ruining the install?
[05:16] <Ng> midas: install linux-k7, you probably need the restricted-modules k7 package
[05:16] <redguy> midas: most certainly it is the restricted-modules package
[05:16] <Hollowman> how do i change network permissions on a folder?
[05:17] <butcherbird> ZiX: havent really hear of anyone having a problem with it.  if you dont want to do that try partion magic
[05:17] <Ng> ZiX: I used the ubuntu installer to resize the windows partition on this laptop. I would backup anything important first though, it's not guaranteed :)
[05:17] <julian> anyone know how to install cedega time demo? its a bin file
[05:17] <pl_ice> Hollowman if u use samba, same premissoins work on the user
[05:17] <ZiX> butcherbird: which is what you have to pay for (symantec?)
[05:17] <midas> synaptic says it is installed !?!?
[05:17] <Hollowman> well i tried to write to a folder and got access denie
[05:17] <Falstius> anyone know a tool for mount disk images that were part of a raid array?
[05:17] <Hollowman> denied
[05:17] <midas> they are both installed
[05:17] <pl_ice> Hollowman u sure u got right user?
[05:18] <cribbon> hey all
[05:18] <butcherbird> ZiX: well they prefer for you to pay for it :)
[05:18] <cribbon> i'm having a problem, i cannot reach ubuntuforums.org , but i can on windows. Anyone got any guesses?
[05:18] <redguy> midas: check the other restricted-modules packages. you sure that you got the right one installed?
[05:18] <butcherbird> ZiX: but ubuntu disk should work fine
[05:19] <Hollowman> pl_ice, ok... well i can't write to that location locally either.... its in /var/www (apache server)
[05:19] <_jason> cribbon, I can't reach it either, seems to be down
[05:19] <julian> how do u install a bin file
[05:19] <ZiX> cribbon: OH NO!!! UBUNTUFORUMS HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY BILL GATES!!
[05:19] <Hollowman> how do i make it so i can write there
[05:19] <pl_ice> cribbon my is down as well...
[05:19] <ZiX> YOU CAN ONLY VIEW IT ON WINDOWS!
[05:19] <ZiX> NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO :'(
[05:19] <Hollowman> or maybe change the location to my home folder so i can always have permission to write there
[05:19] <midas> redguy,  how do i check tehm ??
[05:19] <pl_ice> Hollowman yeh, had problems with it...
[05:19] <_jason> julian, what are you trying to install
[05:19] <redguy> midas: which restricted-modules packages do you have installed?
[05:19] <milestone> is there something similar to ksmoothdock to gnome?
[05:20] <julian> cedega time demo
[05:20] <pl_ice> how about throus a sim link to it, then wirtable
[05:20] <ZiX> UBUNTU DISK YEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAW *FARTS ON ALL OF YOU*
[05:20] <Hollowman> pl_ice, i mean...i could sudo locally, but im mostly going to work on my webserver from my windows box
[05:20] <ZiX> *goes to backup some stuff*
[05:20] <Hollowman> pl_ice, which means i need write permissions there
[05:20] <ZiX> am i irritating or not? =D, please don't ban me!
[05:20] <ZiX> :P
[05:20] <morphix> as much as i love linux.. i am starting to dislike ubuntu
[05:20] <mtlife> ok since i'm quite a newby on linux server (still working with freesco) is it maybe smart to install x-win so that its easier for me to config.. and when i'm done configuring close it?
[05:21] <ZiX> morphix: why?
[05:21] <julian> so
[05:21] <Hollowman> any ideas?
[05:21] <morphix> well for the fact that no matter what i do.. i cant get my other 3 hdds to work with ubuntu
[05:21] <Hollowman> wouldn't it be a chmod something?
[05:21] <pl_ice> Hollowman yeh,if u sudo u can do anything apache is v.secured, hard to cope with
[05:21] <morphix> there are other reasons aswell
[05:21] <morphix> but blorgh
[05:22] <_jason> julian, there is a howto on the forums I believe for Cedega (once it ocmes back up)
[05:22] <redguy> midas: can you paste the output of uname -r and dpkg -l '*restricted*' to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com
[05:22] <pl_ice> morphix i have tried 3-4 other distros, i've stayd with ubuntu ...
[05:22] <julian> i just downloaded the bin file
[05:22] <midas> redguy,  k just a mom
[05:22] <julian> just dont know how to install
[05:22] <morphix> :(
[05:22] <morphix> i want my other 3 hdds to work
[05:23] <tristan> hello
[05:23] <morphix> and also mplayer to work with spdif
[05:23] <pl_ice> morphix remember many things won't work ;) u go around them, whats wrong with hd?
[05:23] <tristan> Anyone has an Acer Aspire 1690 with Ubuntu on it. One button of my keyboard doesn't work with Ubuntu
[05:23] <ZiX> pl_ice: me too
[05:23] <_jason> julian, I would recommend you read the forums first.  In general you can do ./file.bin in the directory where the file is, but then you have no control over what it does and it can be ruining your system for all you know
[05:23] <robert___> is the ubuntuforums.org website down
[05:23] <Hollowman> how would i change a folder so anybody can read/write to it?
[05:23] <ZiX> i tried almost every one of them, except SuSe
[05:23] <ZiX> i even tried FreeBSD
[05:24] <pl_ice> robert___ yeh, mine is down
[05:24] <ZiX> i'm a distro-switcher
[05:24] <ZiX> xD
[05:24] <robert___> thanx
[05:24] <pl_ice> ZiX yeh ;)
[05:24] <morphix> there is nothing wrong with the hdds
[05:24] <ZiX> still like ubuntu most
[05:24] <morphix> ubuntu just goes spaz when i enable that controller
[05:24] <Xophilius> distro switcher xD
[05:24] <ZiX> BUT
[05:24] <ZiX> no windows support on linux
[05:24] <ZiX> :{
[05:24] <_jason> ubotu, tell ZiX about enter
[05:24] <ZiX> qemu is stooooopid :p
[05:24] <robert___> q
[05:24] <pl_ice> morphix paste some more info
[05:24] <morphix> like what?
[05:24] <ZiX> Sorry :P
[05:24] <odat> palmer
[05:25] <midas> redguy,  http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/508300
[05:25] <neha> ubuntu brings an end to distro search
[05:25] <morphix> when i try to boot with just my sata drive
[05:25] <pl_ice> morphix what error it shows, what hd company etc
[05:25] <ZiX> i'm just afraid that i will get lost in the conversation since i dont type that fast
[05:25] <ZiX> >.<
[05:25] <ZiX> and i'm used to it :p
[05:25] <odat> hi everyone
[05:25] <morphix> i get a IRQ #18 disabling error
[05:25] <pl_ice> ZiX just get a beer, it speeds u up ;)
[05:25] <ZiX> also, i press enter right after i finished something, then come up with something else, and do it again
[05:25] <morphix> and when i enable both the sata and the 2 other ide hdds.. i get kernel panic
[05:25] <pl_ice> morphix dmesg then paste bin
[05:25] <morphix> my hdds are all wd
[05:26] <ZiX> so i think i'm finished, i'm not, so i type something more, press enter, something more
[05:26] <ZiX> press enter, something more, press enter, something more, until the channel is completely flooded xD
[05:26] <odat> anyone in here using dapper?
[05:26] <_jason> ZiX, I understand, but it becomes difficult to follow you with other conversations going on at the same time
[05:26] <neha> how to listen music from site which try to open their embedded real player
[05:26] <Xophilius> Monday, June 4 12:01 AM EST
[05:26] <Xophilius> Gates Says Linux Best OS Ever
[05:26] <ZiX> _jason: yup, i know, sorry :p
[05:26] <ZiX> Xophilius: REALLY?!
[05:26] <ZiX> wow
[05:26] <morphix> pl_ice, how on earth can i copy? and paste it to there?? its during boot up i get the msgs NOT during operation
[05:26] <odat> neha, whatcha tryin to do?
[05:26] <ZiX> he admits it? =SD
[05:26] <ZiX> =D*
[05:27] <Xophilius> At a hastily convened press conference Bill Gates announced that he personally thinks that "Linux is the best OS ever."
[05:27] <pl_ice> !patebin
[05:27] <ubotu> pl_ice: I give up, what is it?
[05:27] <neha> there is a site www.raaga.com
[05:27] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[05:27] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:27] <ZiX> so he's gonna give in?
[05:27] <ZiX> and team up with linux?
[05:27] <ZiX> :D
[05:27] <Xophilius> He added, "Mundie and Ballmer are idiots.  Their talk about how open source software damages intellectual property or how Linux is a cancer, is moronic.  When I heard these attacks I felt sick to my stomach.  How could a company that I poured my blood, sweat and tears into spread these untruths?  My conscience guides me, that's why I'm before you today."
[05:27] <ZiX> that would be great!
[05:27] <Ng> Xophilius: chat in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:27] <neha> trying to listen songs from it
[05:27] <redguy> midas: hrm... seems like you got things properly installed :/
[05:27] <ZiX> he admitted it! HE'S BEATEN!
[05:27] <redguy> midas: can't help you then, sorry
[05:27] <Xophilius> oh yea sorry
[05:27] <pl_ice> Xophilius where did u get that? :)
[05:27] <Syruss> when you choose to open a file rather than save it in firefox, how does firefox attempt to invoke the program with the file it downloads? Like program /tmp/downloaded_file ?
[05:28] <midas> np redguy  htx :)
[05:28] <odat> neha, and what is the problem
[05:28] <ZiX> ...
[05:28] <Xophilius> Zix come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:28] <Xophilius> pl_ice you too
[05:28] <trappist> Syruss: I think it uses /etc/mime.types
[05:28] <Syruss> ta
[05:28] <pl_ice> ?... don't get it
[05:28] <neha> it opens a new window and then tries to initialize real player -- forever
[05:28] <neha> I have mplayer plugins for firefox installed
[05:29] <odat> neha, what kind of media player are you using ?
[05:29] <neha> that should play embedded real media files
[05:29] <_jason> neha, what is it?
[05:29] <jenda> Is there a good way to rip short or long segments of audio from (uncopyrighted) videos in Ubuntu?
[05:29] <eliteforce> hi
[05:29] <pl_ice> jenda yeh, ffmpeg, what i use
[05:29] <Xophilius> pl_ice to discuss about the gates thing come to #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:29] <jenda> pl_ice: CLI?
[05:30] <odat> neha, ditch real player and any other video plugin you have for firefox and use mplayer, the mplayer mozilla plugin, and install the mplayer fonts
[05:30] <pl_ice> jenda yeh, also thre is a gui
[05:30] <pl_ice> Xophilius sorry
[05:30] <odat> neha, mplayer is by far the best player for linux it will handle the real media files and everything else including apple and windows stuff
[05:30] <odat> neha, do you have the w32 codecs installed?
[05:30] <neha> odat: thanks but I already have just mplayer plugins installed
[05:31] <neha> yes I do have w32 codecs
[05:31] <odat> neha, do you have real player installed?
[05:31] <_jason> neha, what is 'it', where are you trying to play from?
[05:31] <Unity> is there a way to capture video from what is on my screen?
[05:31] <neha> no
[05:31] <neha> _jason: I am trying t oplay from www.raaga.com
[05:31] <butcherbird> khome.tar
[05:32] <odat> neha, ahhh i see what you mean that isn't real player or your media players fault that is flash!
[05:32] <neha> odat: On windows XP I can easily play
[05:32] <neha> odat: please explain
[05:33] <odat> neha, that is macromedia's flash plugin
[05:33] <neha> the pop up from raaga.com says initializing real player and stops there
[05:34] <eliteforce> i need help with wlan :D my ap is not even showing up with "sudo iwlist ra0"
[05:34] <ich> anybody care to help with a glx question?
[05:34] <_jason> neha, in windows, it plays in firefox?
[05:35] <jenda> Is an amd athlon (1.5GHz) i386, i586 or i686?
[05:35] <darkkyokusanagi> linux-k7
[05:35] <neha> _jason: yes. both in IE6 and firefox. But I do have realplayer installed in WinXP
[05:35] <kasemodz> hi can someone tell how to access this cvs site
[05:35] <kasemodz> cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400
[05:35] <jenda> pl_ice: will that work on .avi?
[05:36] <pl_ice> jenda ffmpeg is the biggest to work with movies ...
[05:36] <_jason> neha, email the company and tell them
[05:36] <jenda> pl_ice: ... and... will it work with .avi?
[05:37] <pl_ice> jenda not sure, u'll have to try ...
[05:37] <trappist> jenda: no telling.  a .avi might use any one of a zillion codecs
[05:37] <jenda> trappist: xvid 4
[05:37] <odat> anyone having trouble getting to the ubuntu support forums?
[05:37] <jenda> odat: they're dead ATM
[05:37] <neha> odat: I believe they are down right now
[05:37] <bine> hello
[05:38] <Blippe> hi bine
[05:38] <ncnite> newbie question: where does Gaim stash its log files and can they be edited/deleted etc (ie. with Gedit)?
[05:38] <Blippe> ncnite,  ~/.gaim/logs
[05:38] <bine> can anyone give me a hint why make tries to find the kernel sources in /lib/modules/<kernel version/build when trying to install ndiswrapper? this directory does not exist at all
[05:39] <prxq> Hi. What shout I apt-get to do dns querries from the command line? I mean, to get dig, or nslookup etc to work...
[05:39] <trappist> bine: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[05:39] <prxq> s/shout/should/  of course :-)
[05:39] <bine> i installed the headers already
[05:39] <trappist> prxq: host
[05:40] <jenda> pl_ice trappist: where can I get an ffmpeg GUI?
[05:40] <trappist> jenda: I've never used ffmpeg
[05:40] <theconartist> are there any good repos that arent the ones already in synaptics?
[05:40] <_jason> theconartist, the official repos are the best to use
[05:40] <pl_ice> jenda i think mplayer can use ffmpeg, o/w i haven't found one
[05:40] <theconartist> _jason, but they are lacking
[05:41] <bine> well your command seems to work diffrent from the one i found on the web...
[05:41] <theconartist> no good bittorent clients, no ff 1.5
[05:41] <ubuntugeek> Anyone is curious about the forums they will be back soon, doing security updates to various software pieces..
[05:41] <prxq> trappist: thank you
[05:41] <bine> trappist: thank your from me too. :D
[05:41] <bine> -r
[05:41] <ncnite> Found the logs... how to edit/del?
[05:41] <i60> Unity: there is a program to make videos of your session, i forget the name though, i'll have a look
[05:42] <_jason> theconartist, you can't install firefox1.5 through a package and not break tons of things in breezy, which bit torrent client are you looking for?
[05:42] <jenda> pl_ice: damn... you're drunk, but I'm tired. How does it work when I want to use mplayer w/ ffmpeg to get audio from an .avi?
[05:42] <Manifold> Hey, do I need to install a firewall if I'm using Ubuntu?
[05:43] <ncnite> Blippe - found the logs, how does one edit/clean them up?
[05:43] <trappist> Manifold: it's not a bad idea
[05:43] <theconartist> _jason, my problem isnt getting the client, its getting it through synaptic
[05:43] <kasemodz> how doi connect to this cvs server cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400
[05:43] <pl_ice> jenda  man ffmpeg yeh, u can extract audo, it think it's -a
[05:43] <pl_ice> *audio
[05:43] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all
[05:43] <Manifold> Which firewall would you reccommend, trappist?
[05:43] <jenda> thx
[05:43] <i60> Unity: http://zaheer.merali.org/mediawiki/index.php/Istanbul
[05:43] <trappist> Manifold: I like ipkungfu, but that might be because I wrote it :)
[05:43] <CrAzYoNi> Anyway to get newer Firefox then the 0.7 with the apt-get function?
[05:43] <Manifold> :] 
[05:44] <trappist> CrAzYoNi: if you mean 1.0.7, no
[05:44] <CrAzYoNi> yep, sorry :\
[05:44] <trappist> CrAzYoNi: at least, unless you're apt-get dist-upgrading to dapper
[05:44] <_jason> theconartist, just curious as to what bittorrent you are looking for... so I can try it
[05:44] <g1m> is there anyone who can help me with my wlan? (please query)
[05:44] <Ng> CrAzYoNi: there's a wiki page that walks you through doing the upgrade by hand, if you want?
[05:45] <deefzi> on GRUB, is (hd1,0) /dev/hdb?
[05:45] <trappist> g1m: we don't do support in pmsg - we do it here so everybody can benefit
[05:45] <hyperactivecrond> g1m: sorry to be a jerk but we can't read minds.  Please state your problem
[05:45] <deefzi> also IDE-1 slave
[05:45] <hyperactivecrond> deefzi: yep
[05:45] <ncnite> CrAzYonNi, have you checked on adding extensions?  that will move functionality forward considerably.
[05:45] <vge> can somebody tell me how can i prevent KDE from starting programs that were open when i started rebooting?
[05:45] <dalamar_> is there a website or wiki page that has a 'things to do/install after a fresh install' type howto on it?
[05:45] <CrAzYoNi> kk, thanks for the info & Yes I'll be glad to!!
[05:45] <Manifold> What would be a newbie friendly firewall then, trappist?
[05:45] <Ng> deefzi: should be, yes
[05:45] <Ng> deefzi: it's possible the drives are mapped in a different order though
[05:45] <hyperactivecrond> dalamar_ what do you mean?
[05:45] <_jason> dalamar, help.ubuntu.com
[05:45] <pl_ice> maino82 firestarter
[05:45] <trappist> Manifold: ipkungfu is pretty newbie friendly.  firestarter has a gui, but takes a little more work to make it work right
[05:45] <kasemodz> anybody wanna help me connect to this cvs server cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400 i kind of need this driver pretty bad
[05:45] <butcherbird> deefzi: hd1,0 is hdb1
[05:45] <kasemodz> i installed cvs
[05:46] <i60> sorry here - http://zaheer.merali.org/articles/2005/06/07/istanbul-desktop-session-recorder-version-0-1-0
[05:46] <kasemodz> and then i did sudo cvs cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/rtl8180-sa2400 login
[05:46] <Manifold> It says here that it doesn't support IPv6, is that a big problem, trappist ?
[05:46] <deefzi> Ng, yes. that's what i'm about to do next, i guess. if i can't get this piece up together with any grubconf or so
[05:46] <trappist> Manifold: not if you don't use ipv6
[05:46] <deefzi> Ng, you'd happen to any grub-configuring program with some frontend? i was told to find one, but neither of apt repositories on debian nor ubuntu found one.
[05:47] <Ng> deefzi: hmm, 'fraid not
[05:47] <Rayen> Hello, I am installing Ubuntu on my PC, after rebooting the installation was Setting up the language-pack and a few seconds later, it was hanging at: Removing xresprobe, I have been waiting for 15 minuts now, and nothing happens (it hangs),   What do I have to do now ?
[05:47] <rikai> rofl, anyone here ever set up ubuntu with an actiontec router?
[05:47] <g1m> right.. so here's the deal: my usb wlan adapter was recognized and set up automatically, i can configure the wlan settings so that another computer (winxp) can "see" the new wlan BUT there is no way i can get a tcp packet out of my wlan0..
[05:48] <Manifold> When is IPv6 used, trappist?
[05:48] <trappist> Manifold: when you get an ipv6 address and an ipv6 isp or tunnel
[05:48] <Manifold> Hrm.
[05:48] <trappist> Manifold: you're not using ipv6
[05:48] <CrAzYoNi> Ng, where can I find this wiki?
[05:48] <Manifold> How can you tell, trappist?
[05:49] <deefzi> my ubuntuforums.org ain't loading, is yours?
[05:49] <Ng> CrAzYoNi: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:49] <trappist> Manifold: because it takes a lot of work to use ipv6 - if you were using it, you'd know
[05:49] <Manifold> :D
[05:49] <Manifold> Ok.
[05:49] <butcherbird> deefzi: its down i believe
[05:49] <CrAzYoNi> Thank you.
[05:49] <Rayen> Can someone help me please?
[05:50] <deefzi> Rayen, no. first we'll have to look your problem from a crystal ball. :-)
[05:50] <Rod> what's the prob Ra
[05:50] <trappist> deefzi: he asked his question.
[05:50] <Rayen> deefzi : I am installing Ubuntu on my PC, after rebooting the installation was Setting up the language-pack and a few seconds later, it was hanging at: Removing xresprobe, I have been waiting for 15 minuts now, and nothing happens (it hangs),   What do I have to do now ?
[05:50] <Rod> trappist, i just joined
[05:50] <deefzi> oh sorry, just came here.
[05:51] <Manifold> trappist, does ipkungfu come with a GUI? I loaded it with ipkungfu in a terminal, and just got text.
[05:51] <trappist> Manifold: no gui, but the config files in /etc/ipkungfu are pretty understandable - if all you need is a firewall (no port forwarding etc.) then you don't need to edit them at all.
[05:52] <deefzi> Rayen, we'll if it stalled, i would reboot and check if i can carry on the installation. but i ain't a superunix-guru
[05:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hellox
[05:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > trying to make my ntfs partitions visable
[05:52] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but not having much luck
[05:53] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : example sudo mount -o umask=0000 /dev/hda1 /mnt/ntfs
[05:54] <Rayen> deefzi neither am I... OK, I will do that...
[05:54] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : sudo fdisk -l should give you parition info
[05:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > butcherbird,  i have pasted my fstab file
[05:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > on pastebin
[05:54] <dalamar> wow cant believe how easy it was to share my xp inet connection with the ubuntu box, nice and simple .. updating my new install now woo! ;)
[05:54] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : url?
[05:54] <deefzi> Rayen, in which part of installation you where?
[05:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hold on
[05:54] <deefzi> Rayen, "installing the base system" or?
[05:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7207
[05:54] <Rayen> deefzi yes I think so...
[05:54] <shaky> hello..i've installed creox program recently but i can't get it to work..does anyone have any expirience with it?
[05:54] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have one partition which i want to call it windows
[05:55] <deefzi> Rayen, if yes, then try booting with the CD and perform the phase again you left before your comp. stalled up
[05:55] <[dEvIL-bOY] > another ntfs partition that i want to call it documents
[05:55] <Rayen> ok
[05:55] <ssam> ubuntugeek, thanks, i was a bit worried about the forums, it was only a few days ago when they were last down. is everything ok?
[05:55] <ubuntugeek> ssam: yeah just applying some security updates
[05:56] <shaky> what could be the problem with creox on ubuntu?
[05:57] <butcherbird> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7208 try that maybe havent used ntfs in a while..
[05:57] <Rayen> deefzi do I have to give up special parameters ?
[05:57] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : ^
[05:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > yo
[05:57] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have another error
[05:57] <Rayen> Yooo!
[05:58] <deefzi> Rayen, no. it should pop you right in the menu where you have "Partitioning" "Setting keyboard layout" etc.
[05:58] <Rayen> ok
[05:58] <inez> AMSN (Linux)  gives a error! He done't works! Help me!
[05:58] <Manifold> trappist, it says to consult the README and the FAQ when I got to /etc/ipkungfu
[05:59] <Manifold> But I don't seem to see them in the dir, trappist
[05:59] <bine> is anybody comfortable with ndiswrapper?
[05:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > takes for ages to upload a screenshot
[05:59] <trappist> Manifold: how did you install ipkungfu - with apt-get?
[05:59] <inez> Where I can find Word?
[05:59] <[dEvIL-bOY] > bine i'll have to try that one later on
[05:59] <Manifold> Yeah, with apt-get, trappist
[05:59] <trappist> Manifold: look in /usr/share/doc/ipkungfu
[06:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have done it in the pass and it's not that complicated
[06:00] <deefzi> does anyone know could i download "GNOME System Tools" from some repository?
[06:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > butcherbird,  still with us?
[06:00] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : yes
[06:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > is that the right details that i should put on my fstab?
[06:00] <scu> I installed ubuntu, but the ubuntu never showed to me the root configuration
[06:01] <scu> how can I config the root now ?
[06:01] <[dEvIL-bOY] > the entry you put on pastebin?
[06:01] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : assuming partion info and mount dir that u pated are correct
[06:01] <butcherbird> *pasted
[06:01] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[06:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !divx
[06:01] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[06:01] <[dEvIL-bOY] > if i do sudo mount -a
[06:02] <butcherbird> [dEvIL-bOY] : that should do it
[06:02] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i will know straight away innit?
[06:04] <Eleaf> lol
[06:06] <shaky> CREOX ALERT! does anyone know how to make creox work on ubuntu 5.10?
[06:06] <bine> noone running ndiswrapper under ubuntu?
[06:06] <Manifold> I'm more comfortabe with GUI, trappist, so I'll check firestarter for now, then maybe move to ipkungfu
[06:07] <trappist> Manifold: cool
[06:07] <scu> how can I config my root user ?
[06:08] <LinuxNT> Excuse me! I need to configure the video on my laptop Toshiba Satellite 2060CDS but is not possible. Only displays at 640 x 480. What I need to do? :-(
[06:08] <trappist> !tell scu about sudo
[06:08] <trappist> !tell LinuxNT about fixres
[06:08] <scu> no man
[06:09] <stevr1it> I ma trying to solve always the same problem. I have a sound card in my laptop. ATI IXP and sometime it does not work expecially with skype but it play marvellously with avi and Dvix, have you any idea of what could be wrong?
[06:09] <superchode> do you need to install 'build-essential' before you can compile anything?
[06:09] <scu> thx
[06:10] <trappist> superchode: basically, yes
[06:10] <brasko> LinuxNT: I'm not an expert by any means,but I would try the X.org mailing list for help.
[06:10] <stevr1it> where could i find x.org mailing list?
[06:11] <brasko> http://lists.x.org/mailman/listinfo/
[06:11] <trappist> stevr1it: you don't want the x.org list if you're having audio issues
[06:11] <brasko> hmm, I was assuming ubuntu uses X.org
[06:11] <Ng> it does
[06:11] <brasko> OK, there you go.
[06:11] <trappist> it does, but you wouldn't go there to figure out how to fix your usb wifi adapter
[06:12] <axisys> hi guys
[06:12] <axisys> when i try to compile i get this error message
[06:12] <axisys> checking for working makeinfo... missing
[06:12] <brasko> However, I don't really see a relavent mailing list for your type of question
[06:12] <stevr1it> trappist i am tryin on xorg list
[06:12] <brasko> axisys: install texinfo
[06:12] <axisys> do u know what was the name of the pkg for ubuntu.. something like essential
[06:12] <trappist> stevr1it: don't bother, your question won't be answered there
[06:12] <brasko> axisys: texinfo
[06:13] <trappist> axisys: build-essential
[06:13] <stevr1it> no they said it is mainly for server, on x.org
[06:13] <axisys> thnx guys.. i will go ahead install both if i did not already
[06:13] <brasko> probably pay attention to trappist, but makeinfo definatly comes with texinfo.
[06:13] <stevr1it> i relaly cannot find any help?
[06:13] <tim> i can't seem to mount my NTFS partition, where are the logs saved for mounting disks?
[06:13] <hob> Hi, anyone had any experience building Novell's SimpleServer on the Ubuntu base system?
[06:13] <stevr1it> trappist, where else i coudl find someone how can help me to configure my sound card
[06:13] <trappist> stevr1it: it's difficult to troubleshoot a problem like "audio sometimes doesn't work on some apps"
[06:14] <trappist> tim: dmesg
[06:14] <tim> trappist: thanks
[06:14] <Manifold> Hrm.
[06:14] <tim> trappist, nothing seems to be in dmesg :-/
[06:14] <Manifold> Firestarter distinctly reminds me of a Windows firewall.. :] 
[06:15] <trappist> tim: well what happens when you try to mount
[06:15] <trappist> Manifold: it's a lot like checkpoint
[06:15] <tim> trappist, nothing happens -- no errors or anything
[06:15] <Razor-X> what's a nice xft that supports Japanese characters?
[06:15] <[dEvIL-bOY] > not good
[06:15] <tim> trappist, just when i tried to boot ubuntu this morning it said "mounting local filesystems : failed" and i couldn't access it.
[06:15] <trappist> tim: how are you trying to mount? how do you know it's not mounted?
[06:15] <[dEvIL-bOY] > it's not working
[06:15] <Set> how can I find out what driver a NIC is using by using bash?
[06:16] <tom__> hello?
[06:16] <tim> trappist, by typing mount -a in console and trying to "enable" it in the disks manager
[06:16] <trappist> tim: try sudo mount -a ntfs and see what happens
[06:16] <tim> trappist, "mount: can't find ntfs in /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab
[06:16] <tim> "
[06:16] <tom__> I'm looking for a little help...I installed breezy badger and ndisgtk isn't available...where do I get it?
[06:16] <trappist> tim: what does 'grep ntfs /etc/fstab' say
[06:17] <tim> trappist, "/dev/sda1       /media/sda1     ntfs    umask=0222        0       0
[06:17] <tim> "
[06:18] <trappist> tim: what about 'sudo ls /media/sda1'
[06:18] <tim> trappist, actually i seem to have gotten it working, turns out the mountpoint magically deleted itself for some reason, thanks
[06:18] <trappist> heh
[06:18] <tom__> anyone there to assist.  I'm sorry for being a pain.
[06:18] <tom__> I'm looking for a little help...I installed breezy badger and ndisgtk isn't available...where do I get it?
[06:18] <trappist> tom__: sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:18] <Cereal> people question, my installer hangs and in the logging console I get the follow message:
[06:18] <Cereal> coldplug: running /etc/hotplug/usb.rc
[06:18] <Cereal> hub 1-0:1.0: cannot enable port4 maybe the usb cable is bad
[06:19] <Cereal> what can I do?
[06:19] <trappist> Cereal: unplug any usb devices
[06:19] <Cereal> I tried booting with the usb probe diabled but it doesn't do shit
[06:19] <Cereal> hmmm
[06:20] <Cereal> that will solve?
[06:20] <earyso> everyone: Where can I get twm for Ubunto?
[06:20] <tom__> trappist, says couldn't fid package ndiskgtk
[06:20] <Cereal> ok, I'll just try
[06:20] <trappist> tom__: you have to enable universe
[06:20] <trappist> !tell tom about repos
[06:20] <Manifold> So, my firestarter should be configured to start up as a system service, trappist ?
[06:21] <trappist> Manifold: I don't know... I haven't used firestarter in like 5 years
[06:21] <tom__> how do I enable universe, trappist
[06:21] <MrPockets> can you apt-get flash for ozilla?
[06:21] <superchode> looking for info on accessing my serial port, anyone know how i could explicitly reference it?
[06:21] <trappist> tom__: check private messages - the bot just told you
[06:21] <Doomhammer> hmmm when i try to mount a samba share, i get "smbfs: mount_data version 1684370019 is not supported" ... how do I fix this ?
[06:21] <tom__> private message?
[06:21] <superchode>  /dev/ttySO didn't seem to work - not sure how to find out exactly what would work
[06:22] <Manifold> Alright, trappist. I've just noticed something. I can't find firestarter of ipkungfu running as a process using the top command.
[06:22] <Doomhammer> !samba
[06:22] <ubotu> samba is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:22] <Manifold> Is that normal behaviour for a firewall, trappist?
[06:22] <earyso> everyone: Where can I get twm source code without downloading entire X package?
[06:22] <Set> how can I find out what driver a NIC is using by using bash?
[06:22] <trappist> Manifold: they don't work like that.  packet filtering happens in the kernel.  both these apps just give the kernel a list of rules.
[06:22] <axisys> i am getting this error ... "undefined reference to `tgetent'"
[06:22] <axisys> anyone knows what library i am missing?
[06:22] <trappist> tom__: listen to ubotu...
[06:22] <Manifold> Alright, thanks for your help, trappist
[06:22] <trappist> !repos
[06:22] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:22] <tom__> trappist, I'm not sure what you mean by check private.  But, how do I enable universe
[06:23] <trappist> tom__: do what ubotu said
[06:23] <Doomhammer> eek why am i getting "files list file for package `capplets-data' is missing final newline" when i try to install anything ?
[06:23] <axisys> here is another error while compiling some app "undefined reference to `tgetstr'"
[06:23] <tom__> thanks guys
[06:23] <g1m> Set: lsmod
[06:23] <bradley_> hello everyone... i know this isn't a new thing but is there some way to fix a audio/video sync problem in ubuntu?  Thanks!
[06:23] <brasko> axisys: ncurses-dev
[06:24] <earyso> everyone: Where can I get a minimalist window manager for ubuntu?
[06:24] <trappist> Doomhammer: looks like the capplets-data package is slightly busticated - is there any more to the message?
[06:24] <brasko> axisys: search for ncurses
[06:24] <axisys> brasko: thnx
[06:24] <superchode> found the serial port, nevermind about my question
[06:24] <_jason> earyso, there are a bunch in the repos, fluxbox is there for one
[06:24] <brasko> axisys: and get the devlopment package. It actually might be termcap, but I think that comes in ncurses.
[06:24] <Manifold> ubotu tell earyso about fluxbox
[06:24] <Doomhammer> trappist: errors while processing samba_3.0.14a-6ubuntu1_i386.deb
[06:24] <_jason> !info fluxbox
[06:24] <ubotu> fluxbox: (Highly configurable and low resource X11 Window manager), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 0.9.12-1build1 (breezy), Packaged size: 757 kB, Installed size: 2684 kB
[06:24] <axisys> brasko: ok
[06:24] <Doomhammer> trappist: however, same thing happens when i try to do apt-get upgrade ... different package encounters errors :S
[06:24] <trappist> Doomhammer: anything else?  maybe something that tells you where the files list file is?
[06:25] <bradley_> anyone have a fix for an audio/video sync problem?
[06:25] <earyso> Maifold and _jason: I shall try fluxbox.  Thank you and bye.
[06:25] <bosco> how do i dissable my login manager in x          I want to start my x in VT
[06:25] <trappist> bradley_: in what player, with what codec?
[06:25] <tim> haha, you know what's ironic? the windows vista page crashed firefox
[06:25] <trappist> bosco: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[06:25] <Doomhammer> trappist: here, i'll stick the output in a text file, and put it on my server ... one second
[06:25] <bradley_> i'm using mplayer, and totem, both get out of sync... how do i check the codec?
[06:25] <Manifold> Should I bother with an antivirus that scans in real time?
[06:25] <trappist> Manifold: definitely not
[06:26] <Manifold> Why not, trappist?
[06:26] <bosco> trappist thank you
[06:26] <tim> Manifold, literally no one makes viruses for linux
[06:26] <Manifold> Oh.
[06:26] <tim> compared to windows that is
[06:26] <Manifold> So there's no point getting ClamAV or others.
[06:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how do i add the extra repositories?
[06:26] <tim> not really unless you download lots of software and run on an open network
[06:26] <Doomhammer> trappist: here is the error ... http://www.longpath.org/doomhamer/filemirror/dpkg_error.txt
[06:26] <_jason> ubotu, tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about repos
[06:27] <Manifold> !clamav
[06:27] <ubotu> Manifold: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:27] <Manifold> Mragh.
[06:27] <trappist> Manifold: it's very hard for viruses to infect linux.  very few have ever existed, and none have ever worked against up-to-date, reasonably well-secured systems
[06:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cheers _jason
[06:27] <_jason> Doomhammer, that link is a 404
[06:27] <Ng> Manifold: clam is available in the repositories
[06:27] <trappist> Doomhammer: 404
[06:28] <Doomhammer> jason & trappist: d*oh, left off an M ... here ya go: http://www.longpath.org/doomhammer/filemirror/dpkg_error.txt
[06:28] <Manifold> So if I'm runnning a personal computer that is connected to the internet through a router then, there's no point in an antivirus?
[06:28] <bradley_> trappist: do you think its a codec problem?  it happens with any video app i use (mplayer, totem, etc)
[06:28] <allenm> Help setting up Brother MFC 210C
[06:28] <hyperactivecrond> allenm: www.linuxprinting.org
[06:28] <Kasts> when I downloaded ubuntu.iso shoudld i just burn it in cd?
[06:28] <Manifold> Are you on Linux, Kasts ?
[06:28] <Kasts> no
[06:29] <competenCe> How do i get avi and mpeg, and wmv files to play in totem media player, it says i need some plugins, where can i obtain them
[06:29] <hyperactivecrond> !tell competenCe about restrictedformats
[06:29] <Kasts> windows
[06:29] <Kasts> xp
[06:29] <gnudreamer> alright so ubuntu takes almot 30 minutes to boot
[06:29] <Manifold> I recommend http://www.cdburnerxp.se/ to burn iso's, Kasts
[06:29] <Doomhammer> competenCe: i would reccommend you use VLC instead, it's a media player as well, and i have yet to find a type of media it can't play ... wmv, mp4, mov, mpeg, etc
[06:29] <aleutian> I've noticed there's no rc.local file in Ubuntu.  If I would like to write a script to execute after the system has come up where would I place it?
[06:29] <gnudreamer> it used to only take about 1 minute...i have no idea what changed
[06:29] <_jason> Doomhammer, sorry to possibly make you repeat yourself but why are you installing samba with dpkg?
[06:30] <hyperactivecrond> kasts: http://isorecorder.alexfeinman.com/isorecorder.htm   i use this b/c it's easy
[06:30] <bshumate> aleutian: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[06:30] <aleutian> Thanks!
[06:30] <Doomhammer> jason: i'm trying to mount a samba share, and it said to do so here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[06:30] <hyperactivecrond> gnudreamer: what have you done recently
[06:30] <Kasts> tnx
[06:30] <hyperactivecrond> i need a site admin to un-delete my wiki accounts
[06:30] <immolo> Does anyone know a gui for creating vcd under linux?
[06:30] <hyperactivecrond> are there any around?
[06:31] <trappist> Doomhammer: try this: open /var/lib/dpkg/info/capplets-data.list and add a newline to the end of the file
[06:31] <gnudreamer> I was playing netpanzer online and the computer froze, i did i hard kill with the physical switch now this happens
[06:31] <Doomhammer> trappist: uh ... this doesn't look good, there's a ton of gibberish at the end of the file ... :O
[06:31] <steverichard> What is Win4Lin ?
[06:31] <ZiX> i just installed xubuntu and i'd like to know what lightweight apps i can install to replace the heavy ones, and what extensions to install (for xfce, i want a panel full of stuff :P, and the ability to create multiple panels)
[06:31] <trappist> Doomhammer: doh :)  here lemme give you mine...
[06:32] <ZiX> i ask that here since #xubuntu is so silent..
[06:32] <Doomhammer> trappist: here's a bit of it @^Nc^@^Oc^
[06:32] <trappist> Doomhammer: www.linuxkungfu.org/tmp/capplets-data.list
[06:32] <CrAzYoNi> Hi all again..
[06:32] <matthewjames> Hey, anyone know anything about the vesa driver? i cant start the xserver
[06:33] <Doomhammer> trappist: would that file be different if i'm running KDE instead of Gnome ?
[06:33] <CrAzYoNi> I downloaded a new version of AMSN (0.95) it's extenstion is ubuntu.deb, how can I extract this type of file?
[06:33] <jorgp> why in cups config would my /dev/lp0 printer say: Device URI: parallel:/dev/unknown-parallel0
[06:33] <trappist> Doomhammer: no, it's a list of files in the capplets-data package.  and anyway I run kde too :)
[06:33] <Doomhammer> trappist: ah okay :) thanks
[06:33] <matthewjames> Hey, anyone know anything about the vesa driver? i cant start the xserver?
[06:33] <steverichard> !Win4Lin
[06:33] <ubotu> steverichard: Are you smoking crack?
[06:34] <gnudreamer> hyperactivecrond: any idea?
[06:34] <hyperactivecrond> gnudreamer: it probably did fsck
[06:34] <bradley_> !VLC
[06:34] <ubotu> hmm... vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[06:34] <hyperactivecrond> !tell steverichard about wine
[06:34] <torpedo|dog> I've got an installation question relating to NTFS: Is it "safe" to resize a NTFS partition?
[06:34] <Manifold> !wine
[06:34] <matthewjames> yes, back it up though
[06:34] <torpedo|dog> (Apolgies for the ambiguous word "safe" ;)
[06:34] <trappist> torpedo|dog: yes
[06:34] <bradley_> !wine
[06:34] <gnudreamer> hyperactivecrond: how should i go about trouble shooting
[06:34] <matthewjames> Hey, anyone know anything about the vesa driver? i cant start the xserver?
[06:34] <hyperactivecrond> gnudreamer: reboot
[06:34] <hyperactivecrond> see if it's ok now
[06:34] <hyperactivecrond> has it done it more than once
[06:34] <matthewjames> Ompaul: hey man
[06:35] <steverichard> hyperactivecrond: I know what wine is, I was asking what Win4Lin is.
[06:35] <trappist> torpedo|dog: there are problems that can prevent it, but ntfsresize will notice these things and refuse to do the resize
[06:35] <trans_err> Is howl still in the ubuntu repo? and if so, which one?
[06:35] <gnudreamer> hyperactivecrond: when i reboot, i have about four times today, it takes 30 minutes
[06:35] <hyperactivecrond> trans_err: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:35] <hyperactivecrond> gnudreamer: oh
[06:35] <trappist> steverichard: win4lin is another solution for running windows apps in linux - it does it by running windows in linux
[06:35] <torpedo|dog> And GResize would just be an interface to the aforementioned ntfsresize (well, if I were resizing NTFS)?
[06:35] <Doomhammer> steverichard: it's pretty much the same thing, allows you to run some windows apps under linux
[06:35] <trappist> Doomhammer: it's more like vmware than it is like wine
[06:35] <torpedo|dog> trappist, ^
[06:35] <trans_err> hyperactivecrond: thanks
[06:36] <hyperactivecrond> np
[06:36] <Doomhammer> trappist: ah ... never really used either, i use QEMU to run a copy of winxp under ubuntu :P
[06:36] <trappist> torpedo|dog: never heard of gresize, but that's a safe assumption
[06:36] <hyperactivecrond> are there _any_ site admins around?
[06:36] <gnudreamer> alright so ubuntu takes almot 30 minutes to boot
[06:36] <torpedo|dog> trappist, sorry, meant GParted
[06:36] <trappist> torpedo|dog: oh.  yes :)
[06:36] <gnudreamer> i have a 1.3hz proces 256mb ram...
[06:36] <gnudreamer> it used to take about a minute
[06:36] <trappist> gnudreamer: wow, 1.3hz...
[06:36] <MrPockets> is there a way at apt-get install   for flash?
[06:36] <gnudreamer> or less
[06:37] <gnudreamer> ghz
[06:37] <Doomhammer> lol 1.3hz
[06:37] <torpedo|dog> Thanks, trappist.
[06:37] <Doomhammer> that'd explain it ;)
[06:37] <_jason> ubotu, tell MrPockets about flash
[06:37] <hyperactivecrond> !tell MrPockets about restrictedformats
[06:37] <Doomhammer> MrPockets: are you using firefox ?
[06:37] <MrPockets> yes sit
[06:37] <gnudreamer> yeah i have xp running on a 300mz 32 mb ram
[06:37] <gnudreamer> anyway
[06:37] <competenCe> what's this mean The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[06:37] <competenCe>   flashplugin-nonfree: Depends: ruby but it is not installable
[06:37] <competenCe>                        Depends: libruby (>= 1.6.7-3) but it is not going to be installed
[06:37] <competenCe> E: Broken packages
[06:37] <hyperactivecrond> well...
[06:38] <_jason> ubotu, tell competenCe about pastebin
[06:38] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[06:38] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:38] <hyperactivecrond> competenCe: you can't install it. _PLEASE_ don't paste in the channel
[06:38] <Adsum> where is the synaptic binary supposed to be located?
[06:38] <gnudreamer> hyperactivecrond: fsck might help
[06:38] <hyperactivecrond> !tell competenCe about pastebin
[06:38] <hyperactivecrond> ah. ok never mind then
[06:38] <_jason> Adsum, 'which synaptic' returns /usr/sbin/synaptic
[06:38] <gnudreamer> i just wont ver turn my machine off again i guess once i m up it's very stabler
[06:38] <gnudreamer> table
[06:38] <gnudreamer> stable
[06:38] <gnudreamer> damn wireless keybopard
[06:39] <Adsum> _jason, mine returns  which synaptic
[06:39] <trappist> competenCe: sudo apt-get install ruby1.8 ruby
[06:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hey peeps
[06:39] <Doomhammer> lol gnudreamer
[06:39] <Adsum> oops sorry... it returns nothing
[06:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have pasted my source list in paste bin
[06:39] <_jason> Adsum, does synaptic work?
[06:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > can anyone help me to find out what do i need to do to correct it?
[06:39] <tim> ubuntu keeps asking me for passwords (sudo, to check for updates, to install software..) is there a way to make it not ask for passwords?
[06:39] <Manifold> !nfs
[06:39] <ubotu> methinks nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[06:39] <_jason> competenCe, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:39] <Adsum> _jason, no, thats my problem. Something has gone terribly fubar
[06:40] <_jason> Adsum, does apt-get still work?
[06:40] <gnudreamer> 30 minutes to boot any help?
[06:40] <Adsum> i actually dont have a /usr/sbin directory
[06:40] <Adsum> _jason, yeah it does
[06:40] <gnudreamer> maybe  a hint
[06:40] <trappist> tim: yes, but that's a Bad Idea
[06:40] <_jason> Adsum, yeah that sounds like a problem
[06:40] <gnudreamer> sledgehammer?
[06:40] <Adsum> _jason, is there someway to repair the system?? :S
[06:40] <tim> trappist, i'm not running on a multiple user server, or any high-security anything. just a desktop and the passwords are annoying : - /
[06:41] <_jason> Adsum, what do you think caused that?
[06:41] <Manifold> Hey, why is logging in as root generally considered bad practice?
[06:41] <Doomhammer> manifold: because you could royally screw your system very easily ;)
[06:41] <trappist> tim: yeah security can be annoying, but I won't be a party to opening your system to people who would use it to send me spam and waste my bandwidth
[06:41] <Tobbe> what's up with http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ ?
[06:41] <Manifold> :] 
[06:41] <Adsum> _jason, thats the other problem i dont have a clue
[06:41] <_jason> Tobbe, security updates
[06:42] <Tobbe> ok, thanks
[06:42] <wapandcat5> so i have firestarter ubuntu "sees" my wireless card I have cat5 connected to cable modem...how do I broadcast a wap ?
[06:42] <seashell11> Manifold: loggin in as root you can change things that will break your system without knowing
[06:42] <Tobbe> any estimated time when it will be back?
[06:42] <tim> trappist, i'm running behind another firewall with telnet/ssh disabled on this machine
[06:42] <_jason> Adsum, I don't know what the best thing for you to do would be.  There is a lot of stuff in /usr/sbin and the problem could be larger than that.  I'd suggest backing up your home folder and asking the channel
[06:42] <trappist> Manifold: the REASON it's hard for a virus to be successful on linux is because unlike on windows, people don't run around as root all the time
[06:43] <trappist> tim: in that case, man sudoers
[06:43] <wb> Which CD burning software do you recommend for linux?
[06:43] <tim> trappist, thanks
[06:43] <trappist> tim: and search for NOPASSWD
[06:43] <trappist> wb: k3b
[06:43] <Adsum> so does anyone else know how /usr/sbin can dissapear??
[06:44] <Doomhammer> wb: i like k3b as well
[06:44] <seashell11> wb: k3b all the way
[06:44] <SpaceBass> hey folks
[06:44] <wb> I c, thank you for advices
[06:44] <wapandcat5> adsum: probably something you did wrong
[06:44] <wapandcat5> so i have firestarter ubuntu "sees" my wireless card I have cat5 connected to cable modem...how do I broadcast a wap ?
[06:45] <SpaceBass> I'm thinking about using a live CD and USB key as a means to having a more "personal" computer when I travel with my company laptop
[06:45] <Adsum> wapandcat5, is there any other option? i dont like to think i did something wrong (not that its impossible or anything :P)
[06:45] <SpaceBass> do I need to change anything in the image before burning it to redirect my home dir to a usb key?
[06:46] <butcherbird-slee> SpaceBass: just for home dir i wouldnt think so
[06:46] <trappist> SpaceBass: "changing" a livecd isn't as simple as it sounds.  you have to remaster it.
[06:46] <competenCe> where can i locate and setup vnc ?
[06:46] <wapandcat5> i have no idea...you have to understand I start my ubuntu machine with a rip cord
[06:46] <competenCe> so i can access my box from my windows machine
[06:46] <trappist> competenCe: sudo apt-get install tightvncserver
[06:46] <SpaceBass> trappist, what do you mean? i suspected I could just mount the ISO and change any config files I needed
[06:46] <kasemodz> wut is the command to make a driver from dource code
[06:46] <trappist> SpaceBass: fraid not
[06:46] <SpaceBass> whats the prefered way to use a live CD and USB key then?
[06:47] <trappist> SpaceBass: iso9660 is a read-only filesystem
[06:47] <kasemodz> im trying to make a driver from source i cded myslef to that folder
[06:47] <wapandcat5> how do I check my network device settings?
[06:47] <kasemodz> the instructions were based on knoppix
[06:48] <tom__> hey guys, trappist, I tried enabling universe and it didn't work, seems as though the location is looking to is incorrect
[06:48] <SpaceBass> should I just do a chroot everytime I boot to the CD?
[06:48] <tom__> can you help me out...how do I get the universe enabled
[06:48] <competenCe> trappist, what is my problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7210
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> !universe
[06:48] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[06:48] <SpaceBass> wpandcat5, ifconfig in the shell
[06:49] <trappist> competenCe: make sure there are no other apt-get processes running, you don't have synaptic open, etc.
[06:49] <_jason> tom__, pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:49] <wapandcat5> ifconfig?
[06:49] <SpaceBass> wapandcat5, what exactly are you trying to do? check the address?
[06:49] <steverichard> How do I install deb packages?
[06:50] <_jason> !deb
[06:50] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> If anyone knows how a university network (that all students connect to the internet through) might be likely to work, what would need to be done / how for port forwarding?  (I got mine for a personal router, wondering about a friend's setup.)
[06:50] <wapandcat5> I want to receive internet via cat5 on motherboard and transmit a WAP via pci card
[06:50] <trans_err> What would be the easiest way to copy all of the music from my powerbook to my ubuntu box, replace any duplicates, and keep any differences.
[06:50] <tech9iner> moin misfit_toy
[06:51] <competenCe> trappist: ok got it, what's the next step, i just installed ubuntu this morning and got tired of windows, so i'm a noob but know small basics.
[06:51] <trans_err> Both music directories contain different sets of music and I want one synced set on my ubuntu box
[06:51] <tom__> what is the command to edit the universe file again?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> trans_err, I had success transferring between computers with rsync, over a crossover cable.
[06:51] <_jason> trans_err, just copy them
[06:51] <SpaceBass> wapandcat5, netcfg is the command for configuring the cards (I think)
[06:51] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: running kubuntu my end misfitty.. u pure u?.. or likewise k?
[06:52] <trans_err> _jason: if i just copy them then things get overwritten-- ie. two artist directories with different albums inside
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> tom__, You edit the sources file to add universe.
[06:52] <seashell11> tom__: sudo gedit /etc/sources.list
[06:52] <Crell42> Greetings.  What's the best way to bind my eth0 to multiple IP addresses?  I need to run an SSL-enabled vhost in addition to various normal ones.
[06:52] <tim> trappist, so in sudoers i'd put in "tim kyoto = NOPASSWD: *" to allow me to run all commands?
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> tom__, That should have been /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:52] <trappist> competenCe: run tightvncserver
[06:52] <wapandcat5> netcfg isn't recognized....hmm
[06:52] <trappist> Crell42: sudo ifconfig eth0:1 new.ip.add.ress
[06:53] <seashell11> tom__: yea sry its /etc/apt/sources.list
[06:53] <Manifold> Adios.
[06:53] <trappist> tim: I've said as much as I'm willing to say on that issue :)
[06:53] <tim> heh, thx
[06:53] <Crell42> trappist: Wouldn't I have to do that on every restart, then?
[06:53] <competenCe> trappist,  from where? where did it download too bro, lol.
[06:53] <trappist> Crell42: not if you put it in /etc/network/interfaces
[06:53] <trappist> competenCe: from a console
[06:53] <Crell42> Ah ha.
[06:53] <SpaceBass> wapandcat5, it might be netconfig ... type net and then press tab to complete... see what you get
[06:53] <g1m> i can't get my wlan interface to work, it won't send any tcp packets
[06:54] <wapandcat5> cool trick
[06:54] <tom__> ok, I got the sources file editted, how to I install ndisgtk?
[06:54] <LoPMX> hi
[06:54] <wapandcat5> some interesting commands
[06:54] <competenCe> trappist,  huh... im sayin where is it located, what directory.
[06:55] <trappist> tom__: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ndisgtk
[06:55] <LoPMX> i've got problems with mysql 5.0 on dapper, every time i reboot the machine the owner and permissions get changed to root.mysql
[06:55] <trappist> competenCe: almost all your executables are in /usr/bin
[06:55] <LoPMX> and should be mysql.mysql
[06:55] <_jason> trans_err, I just tried it, they wont...
[06:55] <_jason> trans_err, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7211
[06:56] <Tac_Work> i just installed 5.04 ... and it wont go into graphical mode... complains about gdm
[06:56] <MeWhOeLsE> sorry to bother you... I'm a total n00b to linux... currently trying as many different distros as I can. I've installed the x64 version of ubuntu 5.1 but on first boot I get an error saying that the GUI can't start. From looking at the error I think that it can't access/recognise my GFX card (PCI-e ATI x850XTPE). Any help or pointers would be great...
[06:56] <Tac_Work> im used to fedora ... and I cant find out how to fix it
[06:56] <trans_err> _jason: Wow-- I've been using bash for years and I never realized it did that
[06:56] <trappist> Tac_Work: so the error message is "that damn gdm, always screwing around"
[06:57] <Tac_Work> trappist: word for word
[06:57] <Tac_Work> hold up let me go try to remember it
[06:57] <trappist> that's a doozy
[06:57] <butcherbird> ubotu: tell MeWhOeLsE about ati
[06:57] <tom__> ok, so now I got a message couldn't find package ndiskgtk
[06:58] <trappist> tom__: you have an extra k in there
[06:58] <trappist> it's ndisgtk
[06:58] <tom__> I had it right in the command
[06:58] <Tac_Work> trappist: if i type startx .. it goes through a bunch of stuff then yells about libglide
[06:59] <Tac_Work> there is no yum .... is there something else i should use to get that?
[06:59] <trappist> Tac_Work: I'm afraid that's not terribly helpful - let's start here: what video card?
[06:59] <trappist> Tac_Work: in ubuntu you 'apt-get install packagename'
[06:59] <zodiaq> i was wondering if ubuntu had a program for handling shared internetconnections... and if so, what is it called? ;)
[06:59] <cello_rasp> i need to convert from wav to mp3... i already have a great gstreamer preset... what do you guys recommend?
[06:59] <Tac_Work> trappist: what package would give me libglide... do you know off hand or should i go search it
[06:59] <trappist> zodiaq: what do you mean by shared internetconnections
[07:00] <trappist> Tac_Work: libglide3 (as told to me by apt-cache search libglide)
[07:00] <zodiaq> trappist: that my computer will act as a server for the other computers in the network
[07:00] <trappist> zodiaq: I like ipkungfu for that
[07:00] <deefzi> is anyone familiar with GNOME system tools (gnome-system-tools as a package supplied with ubuntu)?
[07:00] <schmic> Question: anyone having problems getting into the ubuntu forums?
[07:00] <zodiaq> trappist: thanks alot, will give it a try :)
[07:00] <cello_rasp> schmic: yes
[07:01] <deefzi> schmic, seems that everyone :I
[07:01] <schmic> ok, glad ist not just me then :)
[07:01] <trappist> zodiaq: /join #ipkungfu if you need help - I wrote it, so I can probably be of assistance :)
[07:02] <zodiaq> trappist: will do if i run into any problems :)
[07:02] <cello_rasp> how do i convert from wav to mp3 via gstreamer?
[07:02] <Crell42> trappist: Hm.  Hm.  Is there a reason why /etc/init.d/networking restart breaks eth0? :-)  I have to ifup eth0 again manually.
[07:02] <bosco> how do i configur my gdesklets to start when i start my computer                I just want the icons not the shell thought
[07:03] <mb> ahoj
[07:03] <competenCe> how do i get a *.rpm file to install ?
[07:03] <Crell42> competenCe: Convert it to a deb with alien.
[07:04] <competenCe> i did chmod +x on it so i can try make it executable
[07:04] <Ng> competenCe: ubuntu doesn't use RPM. You *might* be able to convert it with a package called "alien", but ideally you should look for a .deb instead
[07:04] <Crell42> .rpm and .deb files are not self-executing.
[07:04] <uie> hi ppl
[07:05] <competenCe> do i need to install alien? seeing that i just got ubuntu on this box
[07:05] <g1m> how do i use a different driver for a usb wlan adapter that's automatically configured by hotplug
[07:05] <uie> i download a game which consist of 3 files
[07:05] <uie> control.tar.gz
[07:05] <cameron> hey
[07:05] <uie> data.tar.gz
[07:05] <uie> and one binary file
[07:05] <trappist> Crell42: no idea
[07:06] <uie> may i know how to go about install it
[07:06] <kasemodz> is it just me or is ubuntuforums.org down right now?
[07:06] <competenCe> Crell42: do i need to install alien? seeing that i just got ubuntu on this box
[07:06] <kasemodz> can someone else check for me?
[07:06] <Ng> uie: that's a .deb you downloaded, yes? if so, "sudo dpkg -i foo.deb"
[07:06] <trappist> competenCe: why do you want to install an rpm
[07:06] <butcherbird> competenCe: i believe it should already be installed. use alien to convert to deb then dpkg -i filename.  Are you sure its not available in repos?
[07:06] <uie> and command for me to type at teminal ? sorry for the dummy question . i am new
[07:06] <Ng> uie: it might not be compatible though
[07:06] <uie> ng , thanks wil try
[07:06] <trappist> kasemodz: it's been down for a while for security updates
[07:06] <competenCe> im trying to install a apt and its available in rpm
[07:06] <competenCe> ..
[07:06] <kasemodz> ok
[07:06] <Crell42> competenCe: It's probably not in the base install, but you can check.  I only use Ubuntu on the server right now.
[07:06] <jinx0r> can i stream a cd from one box and rip it on another
[07:06] <Crell42> An app, you mean.
[07:06] <competenCe> yes
[07:07] <g1m> uie: what's the name of the binary ?
[07:07] <trans_err> I'm trying to build rhythmbox from source and the autogen.sh doesn't find any of the required M4 macros-- The same happens when I try to build banshee.. any ideas?
[07:07] <Crell42> What butcherbird said. :)  If it's not installed, it should be in the repository.
[07:07] <spoilerhead> i got a textfile containing 2 cols, name (tab) value, is there a way to group them by name and get the sum of the values in shell script?
[07:07] <uie> dpkg: error processing foo.deb (--install):
[07:07] <Tac_Work> trappist: its installing without asking me any questions... is that normal?
[07:07] <uie>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[07:07] <uie> Errors were encountered while processing:
[07:07] <uie>  foo.deb
[07:07] <cello_rasp> damn, i found soundconverter to convert via gstreamer but it doesnt offer custom gstreamer presets... are there any audio conversion tools that do??
[07:07] <kasemodz> trappist if you're not busy, could you help compile a driver from source i cded myself to that folder and typed make but it said the ocmmand is not found. Then i went to synaptic and found that make is installed but the v ersion is 2.6.12-9-386 and i have 2.6.12-10-k7
[07:07] <torpedo|dog> Would anybody be able to give me a rough estimate of how long it would take to resize a NTFS partition, given the size data etc?
[07:07] <Tac_Work> trappist: any other distro has had me set it all up first...
[07:07] <Ng> trans_err: how about installing them from the ubuntu repositories? ;)
[07:08] <uie> ng : debian-binary
[07:08] <trans_err> Ng: because I want 9.2 and 9.1 is in the repo
[07:08] <selinium> any rsync users about?
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> torpedo|dog, A couple of minutes.  On a large drive, in the amount of time it takes to eat lunch.
[07:08] <Ng> selinium: yep
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> selinium, I used it once.
[07:08] <Ng> uie: ?
[07:08] <Crell42> Good grief.
[07:08] <trappist> Tac_Work: for libglide, that's normal.  if you want to do some configuration, sudo dpkg-reconfigure libglide3, but usually packages install with reasonable defaults if there are any, and ask you at install time only if it needs to
[07:08] <g1m> uie: first of do gzip -d and tar -xf on the *.tar.gz
[07:09] <torpedo|dog> tonyyarusso, Sweet, thanks.
[07:09] <Crell42> Not even ifup eth0 in the /etc/network/interfaces script works.  I HAVE to restart it manually.
[07:09] <superchode> hey guys. looking to run lcd4linux under ubuntu - but they only list suse rpms or a gentoo package - is there a way to run it in ubuntu
[07:09] <g1m> uie: then check in the new folders for installation instructions
[07:09] <Ng> trans_err: well you can do "apt-get build-dep rhythmbox" which ought to give you all the bits you need to compile at least the version that's included
[07:09] <kasemodz> trappist if you're not busy, could you help compile a driver from source i cded myself to that folder and typed make but it said the ocmmand is not found. Then i went to synaptic and found that make is installed but the v ersion is 2.6.12-9-386 and i have 2.6.12-10-k7  anyone plz?
[07:09] <eeclark> getting rid of my broadcom today
[07:09] <Ng> uie: where I said "foo.deb" I meant "insert the name of the .deb file you downloaded here"
[07:10] <uie> Ng : . ok will try again
[07:10] <trans_err> Ng: that doesn't work either because the deb can't find libdbus
[07:10] <trappist> kasemodz: sudo apt-get install build-essential linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:10] <competenCe> is there a version of limewire for ubuntu?
[07:10] <selinium> Ng: What is wrong with this instruction:-   rsync -a -v -e --exclude='*.tar.*' ssh /var/www/ james@82.69.69.151:/var/www/
[07:10] <selinium>        When I try to exclude archives it throws up an error
[07:10] <kasemodz> ok thx
[07:10] <trans_err> competenCe: use frostwire
[07:10] <g1m> competenCe: try frostwire instead
[07:10] <amias> lo all
[07:10] <Ng> selinium: the -e
[07:10] <steverichard> Is there any apt get thingy for glibc 2.2 ?
[07:10] <trappist> selinium: the -e has to come right before ssh
[07:10] <selinium> evening ompaul :)
[07:10] <Ng> selinium: put it before "ssh", not before --exclude
[07:11] <marek_> ?
[07:11] <competenCe> can i sudo to get it?
[07:11] <competenCe> or google
[07:11] <Ng> trans_err: the command I just gave you works fine here
[07:11] <Ng> it's installing all the packages needed, included libdbus-1-dev
[07:11] <ompaul> selinium, evening
[07:11] <selinium> Ng, trappist : Doh, so easy when a fresh pair of ears look at it! cheers!
[07:11] <selinium> Evening ompaul :)
[07:11] <amias> any dapper users still able to change themes from the System -> Preferences menu ? i cant
[07:12] <steverichard> !glibc
[07:12] <ubotu> steverichard: I give up, what is it?
[07:12] <ompaul> !dapper
[07:12] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[07:12] <trans_err> Ng: on breezy?
[07:12] <Crell42> Why is /etc/init.d/networking restart not picking up DHCP addresses?
[07:12] <fli7e> dapper is the next version of ubuntu?
[07:13] <mofli> yes
[07:13] <ompaul> fli7e, it will be
[07:13] <competenCe> what's the sudo apt command to install sshd
[07:13] <fli7e> rofl@me not knowing that
[07:13] <MrDez> crell: using a belkin brand router?
[07:13] <fli7e> haha ive seen it mentioned a lot
[07:13] <Crell42> MrDez: Uh, no.
[07:13] <Ng> trans_err: yep
[07:13] <ompaul> competenCe, sudo apt-get install Foo
[07:13] <amias> competenCe,  sudo apt-get install sshd
[07:13] <MrDez> heh
[07:13] <butcherbird> competenCe: if youre using breezy and havent yet youll prob need to sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 then google for actual package
[07:13] <trappist> Crell42: is the device set up for dhcp in /etc/network/interfaces?
[07:13] <trans_err> Ng: thanks there was a problem with my sources.list
[07:13] <Ng> :)
[07:13] <butcherbird> competenCe: thats for limewire not ssh :)
[07:14] <Crell42> Yes.  Regardless of whether or not I also add the extra binding line you had before, it doesn't pick up a new address until I ifup eth0.
[07:14] <superchode> http://ftp.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/l/lcd4linux/ <-- it's listed there - not sure exactly how to install it... can't find it in apt-cache
[07:14] <competenCe> i've install j2rel.4
[07:14] <competenCe> i know but i want to be able to to putty to my box for when i'm not home or w/e
[07:14] <superchode> is i386.deb the one i want?
[07:14] <competenCe> just setting everything up
[07:15] <amias> superchode, if you are running a fairly old machine or don't care for optimisation then yes
[07:16] <superchode> i'm running a low powered machine... what's the difference between the packages there (aside from amd64, think i can guess that one)?
[07:16] <Ng> superchode: if you enable the universe repository you ought to be able to install that with apt-get or synaptic
[07:16] <superchode> i believe i do have the universe repository enabled... how do i check that?
[07:16] <amias> any dapper users still able to change themes from the System -> Preferences menu ? i'm not asking for support just seeing if its universally broken
[07:16] <Crell42> superchode: look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:16] <jared_> umm, every time i try to get sun-j3re1.4 from the seveas repositorie, via synaptic is gives me error 304 any ideas
[07:17] <jinx0r> where do i go to edit the vnc remote desktop option
[07:17] <charlie> hI
[07:17] <competenCe> jinx0r,  i believe its /etc/
[07:17] <competenCe> vnc.conf
[07:17] <Seveas> !tell jared_ about seveas
[07:17] <amias> jinx0r, System -> Preferences -> Remote Desktop
[07:18] <superchode> Crell42: everything is uncommented in there
[07:18] <charlie> Hi
[07:18] <jinx0r> amias this is on a console server
[07:18] <jinx0r> amias no desktop thats why i need vnc to make one on another computer
[07:18] <jared_> can i put mirrors in the repository list?
[07:19] <ompaul> jared_, yes, just not non ubuntu ones
[07:19] <amias> jinx0r,  AFAICT you need a gui to run vnc inside
[07:19] <Crell42> superchode: aptitude update to make sure you are up to date.  If there's no errors, you should be good.
[07:19] <benb> anyone know when the forums will be up again?
[07:19] <steverichard> How do I know what version of glibc i have?
[07:19] <thelleon> ola galera
[07:20] <_jason> benb, maybe #ubuntuforums
[07:20] <thelleon> algum q fale portugues aqui?
[07:20] <_jason> !pt
[07:20] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[07:20] <superchode> Crell42: i'm not sure how to run that
[07:20] <Crell42> On the command line: sudo aptitude update
[07:20] <superchode> bash: apitude: command not found
[07:20] <Crell42> (Or do an update from synaptic / adept / your GUI of choice)
[07:20] <Crell42> Bah.  Silly. :-)  Try apt-get then
[07:20] <_jason> superchode, spell it correctly :)
[07:21] <superchode> heh
[07:21] <superchode> right
[07:21] <Crell42> Or that too...
[07:21] <jared_> when i went to add those mirrors to my list it says can't download them???
[07:22] <thelleon> alguem do brasil????
[07:22] <superchode> k, it updated - but still no luck finding lcd4linux in apt-cache
[07:22] <Crell42> Weird...  Why was eth0 not listed as auto?
[07:22] <Crell42> Is that an ubuntu-server security "feature"? :-)
[07:22] <Bicchi> when will get and update to banshee
[07:22] <_jason> thelleon, ha muitos brasileiros no #ubuntu-br, para ir la escreve: /j #ubuntu-br
[07:22] <superchode> guess i'll just download the i386.deb and install that
[07:23] <jared_> it says something about a malformed file?????????
[07:23] <trappist> thelleon: #ubuntu-pt
[07:23] <thelleon> valew
[07:23] <jinx0r> whats a good cd player with cddb support
[07:24] <ssam> jinroh, gnome-cd
[07:24] <jinx0r> thank you
[07:24] <jouni__m> ubotu tell superchode about universe
[07:24] <jared_> grrr, why does it not want to work with the mirrors off the website????????????????????
[07:24] <Rhyolite> where is the correct location to suggest that a package be added to the base system or at least the universe/multiverse?
[07:24] <_jason> jared_, WHAT says that?  we need more information and less question marks.
[07:25] <jochs> Anyone know why ubuntuforums.org are down, or is it a problem on my end?
[07:25] <alexissoft> hi
[07:25] <amias> jochs, down here too
[07:25] <_jason> jochs, security updates, I was told
[07:25] <Tac_Work> trappist: i cant just login as root?
[07:25] <Rhyolite> jochs: I could not connect with ubuntuforums either
[07:25] <Tac_Work> trappist: i just reformatted becasue i couldnt log in as root
[07:25] <steverichard> In what respository is glibc?
[07:26] <trappist> Tac_Work: in ubuntu you use sudo for root access
[07:26] <competenCe> how come if i use pop to recieve my email using evolution works but if i use imap it get's a connection reset by peer, i dont want to use pop because it downloads my email off my email server and it doesnt get stored on there, but if i use imap i can just get the new email that arrives
[07:26] <trappist> steverichard: main
[07:26] <_jason> !info libc6
[07:26] <jochs> In that case, anyone here run mlnet on ubuntu? Something is wrong with it here and it's killing my machine (kswapd and pdflush are churning the disk to death - load averages of over 10 when it's doing nothing)
[07:26] <ubotu> libc6: (GNU C Library: Shared libraries and Timezone data), section base, is required. Version: 2.3.5-1ubuntu12 (breezy), Packaged size: 4772 kB, Installed size: 15436 kB
[07:26] <jared_> anyway
[07:26] <steverichard> trappist: I dont find it when searching
[07:26] <amias> Tac_Work,  in ubuntu you don't log in as root , you use 'sudo' to run things as root .
[07:26] <jared_> any idea on my problem _jason
[07:26] <Rhyolite> should a package request goto the forusm?  mailinglist?  Enhancement request in bugreport system?
[07:26] <trappist> steverichard: it's part of the base system.  it's already installed, and you don't want to mess with it.
[07:26] <_jason> jared_, I still don't know what it is
[07:27] <thelleon> debian-br???
[07:27] <steverichard> trappist: but how do i know what version I have?
[07:27] <trappist> thelleon: #debian-pt, #ubuntu-pt
[07:27] <trappist> steverichard: apt-cache show glibc
[07:27] <jared_> oh , when i get one of the mirrors off of the site https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages, it says it can't stat them
[07:28] <Crell42> dpkg -l packagename
[07:28] <steverichard> trappist: it didnt find anyhting
[07:28] <trappist> steverichard: err, dpkg -l libc6
[07:28] <amias> jared_, did  you do 'sudo apt-get update' first ?
[07:28] <jared_> i reloaded the repositories
[07:28] <jared_> via synaptic
[07:28] <dalamar> is there anyway to get totem movie player to start a movie/dvd in full screen when its inserted? cant seem to find the option
[07:29] <_jason> jared_, did you try a different one?  it could be down.  pastebin your sources.list if you still have problems
[07:29] <jared_> kk
[07:29] <jared_> http://free.linux.hp.com/~brett/seveas/dists/ubuntu-seveas/freenx/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found   this is the error i got
[07:29] <Ng> dalamar: system->preferences->removeable drives, then go to the Multimedia tab and change the video dvd discs entry from "totem %d" to "totem --fullscreen %d"
[07:29] <Ng> dalamar: I reckon that should do the trick
[07:30] <Seveas> jared_, eww...
[07:30] <dalamar> wow okay heh thought it'd just be a button i clicked thanks
[07:30] <Seveas> jared_, try another mirror
[07:30] <jared_> okay
[07:30] <amias> hmm , fridge.ubuntu.com crashes firefox 1.5 on dapper
[07:30] <_jason> dalamar, the switch for mplayer is '-fs'
[07:30] <n3x> hi... I know this is a little bit stupid to ask.. but... how do I make /etc/hosts work ? I have used it before but this is the first time I need to use it in this Breezy install.. Does anyone know if I need to turn it on somehow? (my /etc/nsswitch.conf is ok : hosts: files dns)....
[07:31] <_jason> dalamar, if you use gmplayer there is probably some option there to always start it fullscreen
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> Is there to search for IRC channels (on any server) by topic?
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> Something like IRC google.
[07:32] <ki4ikl> http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/Release: Unable to find expected entry  {all/binary-i386/Packages in Meta-index file (malformed Release file?)         i got this on the second one too
[07:32] <Crell42> trappist: OK, I give.  How do I use /etc/network/interfaces to bind eth0 to two IPs at the same time?  I'm trying to follow the man interfaces page, but it doesn't seem to be working.  It just makes the script break.
[07:32] <mjs22> anyone here know much about setting up networking for different locations?   I tried to do this in the network-admin tool, but it keeps defaulting to the wrong settings on reboot.  No luck finding much help in the docs that came with it.
[07:33] <trappist> Crell42: never done it myself
[07:33] <rseeber> hi
[07:33] <smarco> n3x, no need to turn it on but you migh have to restart whatever app is supposed to read it.
[07:33] <Seveas> ki4ikl, read the wikipage better
[07:33] <Crell42> Yar.
[07:33] <trappist> mjs22: check out the 'whereami' package
[07:33] <ki4ikl> okay
[07:33] <mjs22> trappist: ok.  thanks.
[07:33] <smarco> what do you usually do if a program is not in the official package repository?
[07:34] <rseeber> i'm trying to install something that needs to build a module with the same gcc as my kernel, and the kernel was with 3.4.5, but i have gcc 4.0.2
[07:34] <trappist> smarco: get it from an unofficial repository or grab the source and build it myself
[07:34] <HappyFool> rseeber: install gcc-3.4
[07:34] <smarco> trappist, could you tell me one of these unofficials repositories?
[07:34] <ki4ikl> What do you mean Seveas i read the whole thing, it can't get the things to work, ar all
[07:35] <rotem> hat could be the causes of tote
[07:35] <n3x> smarco> I have my line in /etc/hosts... and I try something like "$host myserver"  at my shell and it doesn't work - I get "Host myserver not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[07:35] <n3x> "
[07:35] <rotem> what could be the causes of xine and mplayer segfaulting?
[07:35] <tarbazli> hi all
[07:35] <amias> rseeber, you can have lots of different gcc's at the same time , make sure the default gcc is the current one otherwise other problems might occur
[07:35] <trappist> smarco: let's start with this: what are you trying to install
[07:35] <dalamar> the --fullscreen option works exactly as i hoped, thnx
[07:35] <mtlife> is there a tool which can check the video card chipset? I thought i had an nvidia in there.. but nvidia driver doesnt really work on me..
[07:36] <mtlife> and i'm to lazy to get a screwdriver :p
[07:36] <n3x> smarco> I even tried to remove everything from /etc/resolv.conf  and still .. no good
[07:36] <smarco> trappist, i have not installed ubuntu yet but i was checking for a app called "documancer" and didnt find it in the official repository.
[07:36] <rseeber> how do i start a script to run and use the older gcc?
[07:36] <smarco> n3x, whats that line supposed to do?
[07:36] <rotem> what could be the causes of xmms, xine and mplayer segfaulting?
[07:36] <n3x> smarco> 192.168.0.1 myserver
[07:37] <amias> rseeber, they should be ggc.3.4.5 or some such , use 'sudo dpkg -L packagename' to find out where the files are
[07:37] <n3x> smarco> actually, even my hostname (created during my install) is not working
[07:37] <trappist> smarco: I don't see that it's available - just grab the source and build it
[07:37] <ki4ikl> goodness, i have tried ALL the mirrors and i can't find any of them that work
[07:37] <amias> rotem, updating glibc without rebooting afterwards ?
[07:37] <smarco> trappist, ok thx
[07:38] <smarco> n3x, do you have this ip assigned to a ethernet device?
[07:38] <rotem> amias, nope
[07:38] <competenCe> i've downloaded frostwire its a rpm now how do i untar it or make it a executable so i can install it
[07:38] <smarco> n3x, and did you put "$host" into host.conf or the actual ip-number?
[07:38] <n3x> smarco> nope.. I tried some valid ones too.. just to check...
[07:38] <tarbazli> i cant type '@' caracter on my keyboard
[07:38] <_jason> ubotu, tell competenCe about frostwire
[07:39] <amias> rseeber, usually the make file contains a var called $GCC or somesuch , try changing that to the one you want , including the path
[07:39] <uie_> bye guys
[07:39] <mtlife> is there a tool which can check the video card chipset??
[07:39] <tarbazli> i am using turkish Q keyboard
[07:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > eeeee
[07:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > 
[07:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > 
[07:39] <[dEvIL-bOY] > 
[07:39] <n3x> smarco> I haven't edited /etc/host.conf
[07:39] <_jason> [dEvIL-bOY] , please stop
[07:39] <smarco> n3x, well just paste 1 or 2 lines that dont work
[07:39] <amias> mtlife, lspci
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> !tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about bannable
[07:39] <rotem> amias, what else can it be? ive restarted plenty since it started, how can iresinstall glibc?
[07:40] <Rhyolite> any feedback about requesting ubuntu packages?
[07:40] <rseeber> thank you, i'll give it a shot
[07:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > :)
[07:40] <adriyel> MOTU?
[07:40] <mtlife> amias: you are my hero :) seems there is a i740 in the pc.. not a nvidia tnt 1
[07:40] <mtlife> tx
[07:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > trying to get a splash screen
[07:40] <amias> rotem, which version of ubuntu are you using ? have you tried 'strace program' to see what happens just before it dies ?
[07:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > on the grub menu
[07:40] <amias> mtlife, np :)
[07:40] <e-Minguez> hi!
[07:40] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have added this to the grub file
[07:41] <e-Minguez> anyone knows if dapper support airport extreme out-of-the-box?
[07:41] <rotem> amias, breezy
[07:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > splashimage (sd6,1)/boot/grub/images/DigitalAnGeL.xpm.gz
[07:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but it doesn't work
[07:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > why that?
[07:41] <_jason> !enter
[07:41] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[07:41] <n3x> all> sorry for this "paste"
[07:41] <n3x> root@impress:/etc# more /etc/host.conf
[07:41] <n3x> order hosts,bind
[07:41] <n3x> multi on
[07:41] <n3x> root@impress:/etc# more /etc/hosts
[07:41] <n3x> 127.0.0.1       localhost.localdomain   localhost
[07:41] <n3x> 192.168.0.55    impress
[07:41] <n3x> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[07:41] <n3x> ::1     ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[07:41] <n3x> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[07:41] <n3x> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[07:41] <n3x> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[07:41] <_jason> ubotu, tell n3x about pastebin
[07:41] <n3x> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[07:41] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i changed it from hd0 to sd6
[07:41] <rotem> amias, last line of strace on mplayer mmap2(NULL, 372736, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0xb6626000
[07:41] <n3x> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[07:41] <n3x> root@impress:/etc# host impress
[07:41] <n3x> Host impress not found: 3(NXDOMAIN)
[07:41] <n3x> root@impress:/etc# cat /etc/nsswitch.conf
[07:41] <n3x> # /etc/nsswitch.conf
[07:41] <n3x> #
[07:41] <n3x> # Example configuration of GNU Name Service Switch functionality.
[07:41] <n3x> # If you have the `glibc-doc' and `info' packages installed, try:
[07:41] <_jason> n3x, quit and come back. stop the paste
[07:42] <Crell42> n3x: http://ww.pastebin.com/ - USE IT
[07:42] <n3x> # `info libc "Name Service Switch"' for information about this file.
[07:42] <n3x> passwd:         compat
[07:42] <n3x> group:          compat
[07:42] <HappyFool> aargh
[07:42] <n3x> shadow:         compat
[07:42] <n3x> hosts:          files dns
[07:42] <n3x> networks:       files
[07:42] <n3x> protocols:      db files
[07:42] <n3x> services:       db files
[07:42] <n3x> ethers:         db files
[07:42] <n3x> rpc:            db files
[07:42] <n3x> netgroup:       nis
[07:42] <n3x> Crell42> Thanks...
[07:42] <Crell42> Or the one in the topic.
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> !tell n3x about bannable
[07:42] <matthewjames> hey everyone, i finnally got xserver to work!
[07:42] <amias> rotem,  if you type mount does the output include ' devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)''
[07:43] <jouni__m> ubotu tell n3x about bannable
[07:43] <lightdifference> hey, anyone here have a tutorial for installing an apache/php5/ftp daemon on ubuntu for beginners?
[07:43] <rotem> amias, no
[07:43] <rotem> amias, should i add it?
[07:43] <MickMcMack> ~inetd
[07:43] <MickMcMack> :o
[07:43] <amias> rotem, aah , that will be probably be it . yeah try it
[07:43] <MickMcMack> Ded'd? X(
[07:44] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, ; p
[07:44] <amias> rotem,  in your fstab
[07:44] <lightdifference> oopsie.
[07:44] <lightdifference> anyway, does anyone have one?
[07:44] <rotem> amias, do u remember the exact lien to add?
[07:45] <amias> rotem, devshm on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:45] <C-O-L-T> how to install .sh files?
[07:45] <amias> rotem, no sorry hang on
[07:45] <lukus001> error playing cd : could not open resource for writing... how do i fix it?
[07:46] <amias> rotem, just try 'sudo mount /dev/shm'  for now
[07:46] <bosco_> hey what is a good room for gdesklets there is no one in there right now
[07:46] <amias> lightdifference, it's as easy as 'sudo apt-get install apache2 php5' to get the webserver working
[07:46] <Tomcat_> bosco_: Could you rephrase that? I don't understand the question...
[07:47] <lightdifference> amias: thanks.
[07:47] <rotem> amias, i get the lien now but still segfault
[07:47] <bosco_>  Tomcat  i need some help with my gdesklets and i dont want to ask it in the wrong room
[07:47] <amias> lightdifference, do try and read up about the security tho , its important . see www.apache.org
[07:48] <C-O-L-T> how to install .sh files
[07:48] <Tomcat_> bosco_: gdesklets has a package in Ubuntu, so unless you're asking something too specific (like gdesklets programming) you can ask here.
[07:48] <Eleaf> lol
[07:48] <amias> rotem, i think that was a symptom of something bigger . I think you problem is with shared memory / mmap . dunno what else to suggest
[07:48] <rotem> amias, thx
[07:48] <Tomcat_> bosco_: That's why I asked, I know a thing or two about it. And others even more. :)
[07:49] <bosco_> Tomcat how do i configure my Gdesklet icons like my prosser speed  one to link up right and tell the info it should
[07:49] <rotem> amias, if i find something ill tell u
[07:49] <bosco_> Tomcat stuff like that they arnt linked correctly
[07:49] <amias> rotem, have you checked your hardware is stable ? reboot and choose memtest86 from the grub menu might not be a bad idea
[07:50] <amias> rotem, i problably wont be here , but you community spirit is nice :)
[07:50] <rotem> amias, i check regularly plus i dual boot on this box and the other os is ok
[07:50] <Tomcat_> bosco_: Okay, that depends mostly on the desklets you use, no idea...
[07:50] <jdier> How do I check if samba is running?
[07:50] <C-O-L-T> how to install .sh files?
[07:50] <_jason> C-O-L-T, what are you installing?
[07:51] <C-O-L-T> _jason: Office suite
[07:51] <_jason> C-O-L-T, open office?
[07:51] <yclee> hi everyone, is english web forum down? i got a connection refused when trying to connect. thanks!
[07:51] <amias> yclee, yes it is
[07:51] <_jason> yclee, security updates I believe
[07:51] <Eleaf> amias, oh dear!
[07:51] <yclee> okay just checking... thanks all.
[07:51] <rseeber> thanks, it worked
[07:51] <rseeber> bye
[07:52] <C-O-L-T> _jason: I have forgotten it's name
[07:52] <C-O-L-T> _jason: no no it is not free it's name begins with T and it looks like microsoft office
[07:52] <Coolstuff> hi
[07:52] <Coolstuff> Im downloading ubuntu now :D
[07:52] <bosco_> Tomcat i am using a pretty basic gdesklet Like sIde Candys
[07:52] <Coolstuff> to install on my laptops other HDD
[07:52] <Skullb0x> could you emulate msn 7.5 in linux somehow?
[07:53] <_jason> C-O-L-T, if you trust the source and don't mind running random things from random people on your box.... try 'sh file.sh' or 'chmod +x filename.sh && ./filename.sh'
[07:53] <C-O-L-T> _jason: as I see it works with sh file.sh I will give the program name in a few moments
[07:54] <_jason> C-O-L-T, that's ok
[07:54] <zuverink> Anyone know how to add a nvidia video card to a running system using an onboard pci video?
[07:54] <winograd> !modem
[07:54] <ubotu> I heard modem is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com//DialupModemHowto
[07:54] <C-O-L-T> _jason: it asks me to login as administrator in terminal how to do that?
[07:54] <ilmari_> Hey everyone. I was just trying to install Ubuntu on my girlfriends laptop but hit a snag. You mind if I explain the situation - maybe someone could help?
[07:54] <smarco> zuverink, running system ???
[07:54] <amias> C-O-L-T, openoffice will probably be a safer better integrated choice
[07:55] <C-O-L-T> amias: I would like to try this
[07:55] <bosco_> is there anyway to get an animated background in E16
[07:55] <amias> ooh , the baked potato timer !
[07:55] <C-O-L-T> _jason:???
[07:55] <bosco_> Or theme
[07:55] <smarco> bosco, no but e17 can do that
[07:55] <bosco_> Smarco why is that
[07:56] <zuverink> smarco: what I am saying is that i have a system running on an intel onboard graphic chipset, and I would like to add an nvidia card
[07:56] <smarco> bosco, but you could of course run mplayer in the root window
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> why in the hell
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> can nobody
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> fix
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> dpkg
[07:56] <bosco_> Smarco you cant run e17 on ubuntu
[07:56] <smarco> bosco, i dont see why not
[07:56] <zuverink> smarco: I know you have to turn the system off to add the card
[07:56] <bluefoxicy> A BAD ISSUE
[07:56] <dwerf> i copied a folder from a windows disk to my ubuntu desktop; now it doesn't give me permission to delete it
[07:56] <max> http://www.fishclan.net/forum/album_pic.php?pic_id=332
[07:56] <C-O-L-T> amias: how to make in terminal to be administrator / root?
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> oh for crap
[07:57] <C-O-L-T> amias: it asks from me this office
[07:57] <C-O-L-T> suite
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> can't file bugs today
[07:57] <max> does this desktop look like windows????
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> bugzilla is disabled
[07:57] <smarco> zuverink, alright :))) well you need to be sure you can totally disable that onbaord card in the bios, otherwise the nvidia will not get full access to the agp port and wont work
[07:57] <bosco_> Smarco so my best bet is to get e17 then go from there
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> Well then I'll file it here
[07:57] <jouni__m> bluefoxicy bugs go now to malone
[07:57] <dwerf> C-O-L-T how? excusemeexcusemeexcuseme
[07:57] <smarco> bosco, i dont know what you want to do, what animation do you want?
[07:57] <ssam> !malone
[07:57] <ubotu> malone is probably To search for or enter a bug on ubuntu visit https://launchpad.net/malone/
[07:57] <ilmari_> The laptop I'm doing the install has an USB cd-rom, so I can't make a boot install from a CD. I used loadlin to start installation from HD. Everything went fine until when installing some packages i just got a error message. Now I only get command line shell in Ubuntu and I really don't know what to do next :-/
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> jouni__m:  which is what?  A new server that's being migrated to?
[07:57] <dwerf> C-O-L-T i believe i am
[07:57] <bluefoxicy> oh
[07:58] <C-O-L-T> dwerf: how to login as administrator/root in terminal, it asks from me this office suite
[07:58] <bluefoxicy> jouni__m:  now see if someone was smart and put a link on the bugzilla error page that says "ACCOUNT DISABLED TO MIGRATE TO MALONE!" maybe we'd be able to find those things
[07:58] <jeffgr> Does anyone know a way of making ubuntu a home router/firewall and webserver?
[07:59] <Coolstuff> yeah
[07:59] <jouni__m> ubotu tell bluefoxicy about malone
[07:59] <Coolstuff> that would be cool
[07:59] <smarco> jeffgr, install iptables and apache?=
[07:59] <Coolstuff> so I would like to know also :P
[07:59] <trappist> jeffgr: I use ipkungfu for the router/firewall part and of course apache for the webserver part
[07:59] <Coolstuff> cool
[07:59] <Coolstuff> thanks
[07:59] <ssam> jeffgr, firestarter for the router firewall bit
[07:59] <zuverink> smarco: The nvidia card it pci and i can turn off the onboard via bios, have done it before in mandrake(that i have been using for years without nvidia trouble)  I attempted to install with the card in but could not get XORG to config properly during install stage and the install failed.  I now have an up and running sytem and now would like to add the nvidia card.
[07:59] <C-O-L-T> dwerf: ???
[07:59] <jeffgr> ssam, i used firestarter and i always get errors with it
[07:59] <j0sh> Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot use gaim to transfer files even with other Ubuntu users
[07:59] <C-O-L-T> dwerf: ???
[08:00] <jeffgr> trappist, is ipkungfu easy to configure
[08:00] <trappist> jeffgr: yes
[08:00] <ilmari_> Any chance someone could give me a hand with this installation - it seems that I'm stuck as I really don't know my way in shell
[08:00] <Coolstuff> ipkungfu what will it do?
[08:00] <smarco> zuverink, i see, do you have any error messagess?
[08:00] <trappist> jeffgr: for most people it doesn't even require configuration
[08:00] <jeffgr> smarco, i might use iptables if there is a tutorial to configure it
[08:00] <arcade> jeffgr: My personal favorite is to use OpenBSD as a firewall/router, but I'm sure Ubuntu will work excellent with iptables.
[08:00] <C-O-L-T> trappist: please tell to me how to have a root terminal window so how to be administrator
[08:00] <jeffgr> trappist, can it port forward
[08:00] <trappist> jeffgr: iptables-tutorial.frozentux.net
[08:00] <C-O-L-T> trappist: i need to install a program and it requires administrator rights
[08:01] <bosco_> Smarco i have a Shroom theme and background right now and  i would like them to be moving with the wind if possible
[08:01] <trappist> C-O-L-T: you use sudo for that
[08:01] <smarco> jeffgr, yes there are many, might wanna look at the ubuntu site or forums. but you will have to invest a little time to learn this stuff so dont be frustrated too soon :)
[08:01] <jeffgr> trappist: thanks
[08:01] <arcade> jeffgr: But really - OpenBSD is *the best* for such things, especially if you want the more advanced features.
[08:01] <C-O-L-T> trappist: I have to install an sh file.sh
[08:01] <lightdifference> hey guys, sorry to ask another question again, but mysql doesn't exist according to apt-get.
[08:01] <jouni__m> bluefoxicy http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com says ubuntu has gone to malone for bug management
[08:01] <trappist> C-O-L-T: sudo sh filename.sh
[08:01] <C-O-L-T> trappist: can I use sudo sh file.sh
[08:01] <C-O-L-T> trappist: ok thanks
[08:01] <tonyyarusso> How do you use Gaim for IRC?
[08:01] <jeffgr> i just want to port forward mostly
[08:01] <smarco> bosco, well even e17 will not be able to magically add you some wind
[08:01] <trappist> jeffgr: ipkungfu then
[08:01] <j0sh> Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot use gaim to transfer files even with other Ubuntu users
[08:02] <bosco_> Smarco i know that just for example
[08:02] <dwerf> hi there people, somehow, i deleted my trash can, what to do, what to do? :-)
[08:02] <zuverink> smarco: no error messages, the install goes straight to a root prompt after failing to start X.  So I reinstalled with the nvidia card out.  The onboard works fine.  I would now like to turn off the onboard, add the card, reconfigure xorg.conf and go, but when i attempted I could not even get a prompt by switching to a consol
[08:02] <jeffgr> trappist, do i need to install other packages with it
[08:02] <bosco_> Meebo.com
[08:02] <tonyyarusso> dwerf, Deleted from where?
[08:02] <trappist> jeffgr: it should resolve any dependencies (like iptables)
[08:02] <dwerf> from the dock
[08:02] <jeffgr> trappist: thanks a lot, i'll try it out
[08:03] <C-O-L-T> dwerf: The office suite is Thinkfree Office 3.0
[08:03] <smarco> zuverink, oh i see so you want to reconfigure X to run on the nvidia instead
[08:03] <C-O-L-T> _jason: is Thinkfree Office 3.0
[08:03] <bosco_> Smarco cant you change something in e16 to force it to do that or is that just making it e17 if i were to change that
[08:03] <trappist> jeffgr: I wrote it, so /join #ipkungfu if you need any help
[08:03] <dwerf> C-O-L-T i really wouldn't know
[08:03] <bluefoxicy> jouni__m:  I thought "malone" was the name of a new server that was being moved in, bigger hardware, like sourceforge does.
[08:03] <tonyyarusso> dwerf, Try right-click > Add to panel.
[08:04] <Menga> hello
[08:04] <bosco_> helllo
[08:04] <bluefoxicy> jouni__m:  or "malone" could be a new release of the Bugzilla engine, for all I know.
[08:04] <jeffgr> trappist, ok thats cool, thanks
[08:04] <C-O-L-T> dwerf: we will see how it looks like but as I have seen at shots osdir it is like microsoft office
[08:04] <lightdifference> wait, a few minutes ago, someone told me how to install apache/php/mysql. Whoever it was, could you give me the command again?
[08:04] <zuverink> smarco: yes, thats it!  Would I have to install the nvidia deb packages with the onboard working and then reboot with the bios changes and the nvidia card in, do you think that would work?
[08:05] <Menga> i am a noob and i have goot a little problem with usb pen; they are not mounting automagically any more. know if there's an option that will let me to re-enable automagic mount?
[08:05] <mistik1> hello guys
[08:05] <rotem> xmms, xine and mplayer crahs on startup. running strace i found that all 3 files called mmap2(NULL, 372736, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) before segfaulting. Hwo can i fix this?
[08:05] <CapriCorN> How do I install a font that I've found?
[08:05] <jochs> In absence of ubuntuforums, anyone mind helping out with a samba authentication problem?
[08:05] <zuverink> smarco: the nv driver would even work for now
[08:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell CapriCorN about fonts
[08:05] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  if you just upgraded hal, you may need to log out and log back into gnome, or reboot.
[08:05] <mistik1> I am upgrading to ubuntu from another debian based system, I cannot seem to pull in the new Xorg packages with apt-get
[08:06] <mistik1> Is this a known issue and if so where is this process documented?
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  do you have a lightbulb icon in your system tray anywhere?
[08:06] <skullb0x> which should i install ubuntu 32 or 64bit
[08:06] <Seveas> mistik1, such upgrades are nut sopported and highly likely to go wrong
[08:06] <Seveas> s/nut/not/
[08:06] <bluefoxicy> Seveas:  such upgrades can succeed, you just need to use dpkg's force options a lot to remove half the crap :)
[08:06] <CapriCorN> thx
[08:06] <mistik1> The entire system is already upgraded, I just need X
[08:07] <Menga> bluefoxicy, nope :(
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  did you recently install packages?
[08:07] <Seveas> bluefoxicy, indeed, and a person who know how to twist and bend dpkg will not need to ask in here ;)
[08:07] <Menga> bluefoxicy, i can try to apt-get --reinstall install hal and reboot
[08:07] <smarco> zuverink, i actually never used ubuntu myself (came here for a question) but switching the Xorg config to use the nv driver is very simple.
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  also does the drive show in places->computer ?
[08:07] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  it may just not be auto-openning
[08:08] <smarco> zuverink, and you dont need to install anything cause nv comes with xorg
[08:08] <zuverink> smarco:  what is the command to reconfigure xorg?
[08:08] <Menga> bluefoxicy, there are many usb devices there, but none of them seems mounted
[08:08] <Menga> i'll double check
[08:08] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  click on one?
[08:08] <Menga> none
[08:08] <j0sh> Can anyone help me figure out why I cannot use gaim to transfer files even with other Ubuntu users
[08:09] <Menga> bluefoxicy, maybe i miss some kernel thing, as i see no /dev thing in dmesg
[08:09] <smarco> zuverink, i could tell you how to edit the xorg.conf but i assume there is a even easier tool in ubuntu to do that which i dont know.
[08:09] <rotem> xmms, xine and mplayer crahs on startup. running strace i found that all 3 files called mmap2(NULL, 372736, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) before segfaulting. Hwo can i fix this?
[08:09] <_jason> j0sh, with how many other ubuntu users has it failed
[08:09] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  huh.  Did you upgrade anything recently?
[08:09] <Menga> bluefoxicy, didnt intall any new packages, but a friend of mine tried to install new kernel and failed
[08:10] <jochs> Samba authentication, anyone?
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  it likely removed the modules for your current kernel.  apt-get install linux-686 if you're on an IA-32 arch
[08:10] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  then use update-grub (unless you run lilo, then update-lilo) and reboot
[08:10] <trappist> jochs: asking the question sometimes helps
[08:10] <pestilence> am i the only one getting connection refused from ubuntuforums.org
[08:11] <Menga> bluefoxicy, roger that. brb sooon. thanks a bunch
[08:11] <trappist> pestilence: down for maintenance
[08:11] <bluefoxicy> Menga:  I suggest not letting your friends mess with packages on your system.  :)
[08:11] <pestilence> trappist: grr.
[08:11] <jochs> Did a couple times. Essentially, when I connect to a samba share, I cannot authenticate. The (Windows XP) dialog just comes back and asks me again. The smb.conf section (which works on Gentoo) is:
[08:11] <smarco> zuverink, well if nobody tells you we could quickly do that in a sep. room
[08:11] <pestilence> perhaps somebody should add that to the topic of this channel
[08:11] <Lie-Algebra> Hi, I cant access ubuntuforums, "access is refused", any obvious reason for that ?
[08:12] <jochs> [Data] 
[08:12] <jochs>    comment = Server Data
[08:12] <pestilence> seems like a pretty bad time to go down for maintainence
[08:12] <jochs>    path = /mnt/data
[08:12] <jochs>    valid users = jochs
[08:12] <jochs>    available = yes
[08:12] <jochs>    browseable = yes
[08:12] <jochs>    public = no
[08:12] <trappist> jochs: if you were specific like this before, you did it under another nick.  don't paste here.
[08:12] <jochs>    writable = yes
[08:12] <mwe> jochs: dont paste in here
[08:12] <jochs>    printable = no
[08:12] <pestilence> jochs: don't paste here
[08:12] <jochs> D'oh - sorry...
[08:12] <smarco> you guys need a bot that kicks the pasters :))
[08:12] <j0sh> _jason: everyone I've tried it with
[08:12] <tafsen> what happend to ubuntuforums=
[08:12] <jochs> Not easy to post things like this without ubuntofoumrs. :(
[08:12] <mwe> !paste
[08:12] <bluefoxicy> rafb.net/paste
[08:12] <ubotu> hmm... paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[08:12] <pestilence> use the pastebin
[08:12] <jochs> ubuntuforums... *sigh* What a day it's been
[08:12] <trappist> smarco: that's generally not a good idea.  bots get lagged and start mass kicking people as the message flood in
[08:13] <trappist> jochs: that's what pastebin is for.  see /topic
[08:13] <j0sh> _jason: I've tried with persons with different distro's and even window's users with aim not gaim, I can't get it to work to transfer any files with anyone really
[08:13] <smarco> trappist, well they should not get lagged in the first place:=
[08:13] <smarco> )
[08:13] <_jason> j0sh, maybe your firewall is blocking it
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> oh SHIT
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> I just installed gnucash 1.8.12 in dapper universe
[08:13] <bluefoxicy> and it doesn't run :O
[08:14] <pestilence> bluefoxicy: doesn't run with your previous data, or doesn't run period?
[08:14] <_jason> j0sh, I know that the gaim version on default ubuntu has problems transferring to aim clients but gaim -> gaim should work
[08:14] <smarco> bluefoxicy, run it from a xterm and tell the error
[08:14] <trappist> jochs: anyway, have you used smbpasswd to set up a samba user?
[08:14] <j0sh> hmm I'm not running any type of firewall
[08:14] <jochs> trappst: No, I want it to use the system users, not a separate user/pass system
[08:15] <skullb0x> are there as many apps that will run for 32bit as there will 64bit of ubuntu
[08:15] <skullb0x> or should i just stick with 32bit
[08:15] <j0sh> _jason: I do have a router but I have port forwarding turned on
[08:15] <svu_> anyone tried to build mac-on-linux on ubuntu / ppc64
[08:15] <jariep1__> do I need PHP 5 to run MySQL 4.1?
[08:15] <mcdenyer> hey allk
[08:15] <jochs> trappist: No, I want it to use the system users, not a separate user/pass system (I need more sleep, dammit)
[08:15] <j0sh> _jason: is there anyway to specify what ports gaim users to transfer files
[08:15] <trappist> jochs: I assume that's possible, but you'd need to configure samba to authenticate against pam or shadow
[08:15] <jochs> _jason: No firewalls
[08:15] <mcdenyer> im looking for a music player that is very similar to itunes
[08:16] <mcdenyer> one thats plays m4a files and can manage an ipod
[08:16] <arrinmurr> mcdenyer: try amarok
[08:16] <g1m> FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted  ??
[08:16] <mcdenyer> arrinmurr yeah i did but i cant get it to play m4a files
[08:16] <stat_> speaking of amarok, anyone know how it runs in fluxbox?
[08:16] <risc-> anyone knows how to install mplayer/xine/other dvd player (gnome) on edubuntu?
[08:16] <jochs> trappist: Gee, I thought that's how it would have been set up in the first place. I guess "passdb backend = tdbsam guest" isn't doing it, eh?
[08:16] <Eleaf> stat_, why would it run any differently?
[08:17] <blindfisch001> HALLO LEUTE
[08:17] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, do you have the m4a libraries installed?
[08:17] <blindfisch001> IST WER DEUTSCH ?
[08:17] <jochs> trappist: (I also could have sworn this was working before and just magically broke, just like vnc.so
[08:17] <_jason> j0sh, start gaim from a terminal with the debug option: gaim -d, and try again.  See if that gives you some info.  /msg me if you want my screenname to try it with
[08:17] <g1m> blindfisch001: /j #ubuntu-de
[08:17] <mcdenyer> eleaf well m4a files will play thourgh totem
[08:17] <mwe> !de
[08:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:17] <risc-> anyone knows how to install mplayer/xine/other dvd player (gnome) on edubuntu?
[08:17] <mcdenyer> eleaf but they dont play thourgh amarok
[08:17] <trappist> jochs: that's not how samba authenticates by default.  I've never done it that way, so I don't know what to tell you.
[08:17] <mcdenyer> eleaf what is tyhe comand for that library?
[08:17] <blindfisch001> thx
[08:18] <stat_> Eleaf, there are always performance dissimilarities cross-window managers.   usually in startup time but that's still a pain
[08:18] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, you would have to install the library
[08:18] <Eleaf> stat_, I run it fine in openbox ; p
[08:18] <wolki> hi!
[08:18] <mcdenyer> eleaf how do i do thta?
[08:18] <Eleaf> stat_, of course it has to load the kde libraries.. It doens't take too long
[08:18] <Eleaf> I'll try it right now
[08:18] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, open synaptic and do a search for "m4a"
[08:19] <jochs> trappist: Seems to be a lot of extra admin overhead then. I would have thought when using security=user that it would *of course* look at the system users. =p Well, off to see if I can figure it out. I'm this close to blowing it all away - it worked great day 1, and has done nothing but bitrot ever since...
[08:19] <wolki> i just bought a mew mouse... it's working ok, but the third mouse button doesn't... i can scroll with the wheel though. Do I have to change something in the xorg.conf?
[08:19] <stat_> Eleaf, before i apt 150mb in kde libs that would be cool :D
[08:19] <Eleaf> lol
[08:19] <Eleaf> stat_, just doing apt-get install amarok should get everything needed... not much
[08:20] <mcdenyer> elead nothing came up but 2 games
[08:20] <Eleaf> stat_, I just opened amarok in openbox, it loaded just as fast as it would in KDE ; )
[08:20] <stat_> it's a ton for me, i have a clean ubu install with flux ;)
[08:20] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, try aac
[08:20] <Eleaf> stat_, = p.
[08:20] <stat_> Eleaf,  cool, i'll just bite the bullet
[08:20] <Eleaf> okk.
[08:21] <mcdenyer> eleaf well i installed g stremer-faac
[08:21] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, alright.
[08:21] <mcdenyer> eleaf like i can play m4a files just not with amarok
[08:21] <any> hi
[08:21] <any> Is there a cp that shows the percentage like scp ?
[08:21] <stevr1it> hello, how can i change permission to a directory?
[08:22] <Eleaf> mcdenyer, oh weird..
[08:22] <Coolstuff> do I need a good home connection to host a small site just for personal use?
[08:22] <Coolstuff> on ubuntu
[08:22] <jbzz> stevr1it:   chmod  command
[08:22] <mcdenyer> eleaf well i was just able tyo -play it but when i add a folder of music to amarok it doesnt add the m4as
[08:22] <darkkyokusanagi> Anyone have a cpu performance with firefox 1.5?
[08:22] <mcdenyer> eleaf just the mps
[08:22] <wolki> hm... xev doesn't show anything when clicking... is this thing broken, or designed not to work with linux? -_-
[08:23] <thelleon> ubuntu-br
[08:23] <darkkyokusanagi> a problem with firefox 1.5
[08:23] <Eleaf> hmm
[08:23] <mwe> Coolstuff: not really unless the users are impatient
[08:23] <_jason> j0sh, "AIM and ICQ file transfer is partially implemented. Notably, it will fail when the sender is behind a NAT device, and sometime when the sender is behind a firewall even if not behind a NAT. Jonathan Clark is working on this as a Summer of Code project."  Are you behind a NAT device?
[08:23] <stevr1it> jbzz, could you be more precise? the direcotory is downloads, because it say i have no permission
[08:23] <Coolstuff> mwe: cheers
[08:23] <bluefoxicy> ouch
[08:23] <bluefoxicy> burn
[08:23] <bluefoxicy> gnucash fails now.
[08:24] <thelleon> algum me coloca no debian-br?
[08:24] <chicken-man> Hi, I have had ubuntu Linux before, but when I installed it last time some time after my OEM restore CD's would not work, I got a new PC now (same make) and have got a OEM restore DVD, all I want to know is it safe to install ubuntu Linux ?
[08:24] <_jason> thelleon, /j #debian-br
[08:24] <jbzz> stevr1it:     man  chmod         that should inform you about the use of the command chmod
[08:25] <paulr_> anyone able to connect to the English Ubuntu forums?
[08:25] <stevr1it> ok thank you
[08:26] <j0sh> _jason: I don't think so...I have a regular Linksys router
[08:26] <j0sh> _jaons: but perhaps it has some NAT setting
[08:26] <mcdenyer> eleaf where do i select a folder for that music in the folder to be put into amarok
[08:26] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: depends if the OEM restore CD actually has everything needed to restore the system, or (as many do) is only a bootdisk and loads everything from a hidden partition.
[08:26] <_jason> j0sh, I would bypass the router and connect my computer directly to the internet just to see if it's the router that's causing it.  If it is, google :)
[08:27] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : Well my PC is a Packard Bell, but about this hidden partition, can I find out where it is and what size is it most of the time, because out of my disk I'm missing 10GB
[08:28] <omerix> i have used z600 driver for lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, it is working now but only print, it doesn't scan. How can i scan in this multifunctional printer?
[08:28] <bluefoxicy> livecd
[08:28] <Coolstuff> guys, what is the difference between Linux (PPC) and Linux (x86)
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> Coolstuff:  PPC works on Apple G4 Macintosh series
[08:29] <stevr1it> difficult
[08:29] <Coolstuff> ah
[08:29] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : I've used Linux for a year, and I'll be dual booting with XP, I have deleted my two partitions with fdisk and Windows XP did reinstall ?
[08:29] <Coolstuff> so which is ubuntu?
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> x86 works on IA-32 architecture PCs
[08:29] <Coolstuff> ok
[08:29] <Coolstuff> thats me
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> Coolstuff:  they're both ubuntu
[08:29] <Coolstuff> I think... :P
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> it's all recompiled in odd ways.
[08:29] <Coolstuff> well Im not a Mc
[08:29] <Coolstuff> Mac*
[08:29] <bluefoxicy> then use the x86 one
[08:29] <Coolstuff> hehe
[08:29] <Coolstuff> thanks blue
[08:29] <vladuz976> anybody know a place to buy cheap german domains?
[08:30] <cgentry72> newbie here, can someone tell me if it hurts to run gnome program from KDE?
[08:30] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  no, but it sure hurts to run KDE anything  :)
[08:30] <Tac_Work> trappist: you still around?
[08:30] <cgentry72> gnome fan huh?
[08:30] <zcat[1] > it's sweet too!!
[08:30] <bluefoxicy> zcat[1] :  send me a PPC :(  I want one
[08:30] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  more a fan of not running out of memory all the time.
[08:30] <Coolstuff> on the 600mb version does Open Office come with it?
[08:30] <Eleaf> zcat[1] , yay
[08:30] <bluefoxicy> Coolstuff:  yes it does.
[08:31] <dbzdeath> for mysql on apache not apache2 do you need any module for it?
[08:31] <Coolstuff> cheers blue
[08:31] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me how to find my Windows XP hidden restore partition (if I have one)
[08:31] <bluefoxicy> Coolstuff:  you can always play with a livecd
[08:31] <zcat[1] > this one is OLD.. 300mhz, 6G hdd.. a bit sad really, but much better running ubuntu than OS8 !!
[08:31] <cgentry72> oic
[08:31] <Tac_Work> ok .. well gdm dies... I just did an install of 5.04  ... it first died saying it couldnt find libglide... i installed it.... here is my log file http://tmtesting.com/Xorg.0.log
[08:31] <Coolstuff> yeah Im downloading the 5.10 iso
[08:31] <cgentry72> i just dont care for the GUI
[08:31] <Tac_Work> if anyone coudl help me get a GUI on this machine... itd be great
[08:31] <Coolstuff> to install on my Laptops spare HDD
[08:31] <Coolstuff> to play about with it
[08:32] <paulr_> Ubuntu should install a Gnome GUI by default?
[08:32] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  I used to run Gnome 2.10 with Gimp, Xchat, gaim, rhythmbox, firefox, thunderbird, and abiword in about 400-420 megs of memory usage after like a week
[08:32] <Eleaf> paulr_, ?
[08:32] <mcdenyer> i need to talk to someone who is an expert with amarok
[08:32] <j0sh> _jason: thanks
[08:32] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: boot live cd, and 'sudo fdisk -l'
[08:32] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  I tried to switch to kde, and it filled my 768M of memory with those apps running, plus got 600 megs into swap.
[08:32] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  around the 3.3 branch
[08:32] <mtlife> i need some help.. why is my mouse freaking out all the time? I have an mx500.. tried some tutorials on the net, but cant get it to work under xorg
[08:32] <bluefoxicy> cgentry72:  it started in only 400 megs though :O
[08:32] <cgentry72> I have a Sony all in one with a Gigapocket TV card but none of the TV software is picking it up
[08:33] <cryptom> Hi all, for quite some year I've been compiling my own kernels, at least a year with make-kpkg under debian and now under breezy. But now, either I am doing something wrong or there might be a bug in "kernel-package
[08:33] <cryptom> I get lots of modprobe errors while booting the initrd image
[08:33] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : can't I would have to download the ISO and burn it, which at the moment I just don't have time to do.
[08:33] <mcdenyer> plz someone help me with amarok and m4a files
[08:33] <omerix> i have used z600 driver for lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, it is working now but only print, it doesn't scan. How can i scan in this multifunctional printer?
[08:33] <cryptom> when I manually open the initrd file and execute a depmod -a, rebuild the initrd image, everything works fine
[08:33] <cryptom> I have to add: I use the kernel from kernel.org, not the [k] ubuntu packages
[08:33] <paulr_> Eleaf ?
[08:33] <cryptom> am I the only one to experience this behavior?
[08:33] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me how to find my Windows XP hidden restore partition (if I have one)
[08:33] <mwe> cryptom: do you need an initrd?
[08:33] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: I mean sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda  rather, that'll list the partitions on your first IDE drive.. there should be only one.. if there's a little one (about 10G) that's your restore partition.. don't delete it!
[08:34] <Eleaf> paulr_, ?
[08:34] <mwe> cryptom: I just use my custom kernel/modules and no initrd
[08:34] <cryptom> mwe: seems so in order to keep the splash
[08:34] <paulr_> Eleaf Not sure what you're questioning ?
[08:34] <mwe> cryptom: right
[08:34] <cryptom> mwe: I used to do it that way to, but i kind of like the splash
[08:34] <Eleaf> paulr_, you said gnome should be installed by default?  What are you asking?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> gnome is installed by default :(
[08:34] <cgentry72> has anyone got ubuntu to recognize their TV card?
[08:34] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : I have two partitions at the moment I can see, the main one with the windows XP files and other junk, and another one with most of the space that stores user data and files
[08:35] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: another suggestion, get a second drive, jumper it as slave and use that for dual-booting ubuntu. Don't touch /dev/hda, ubuntu will set grub up to dual-boot automagically
[08:35] <mwe> cryptom: personally I just went with bootsplash instead
[08:35] <cryptom> mwe: seems as if the depmod -a after building the kernel is missing... because all the modules.* files are missing in the initrd
[08:35] <paulr_> Eleaf oops my mistake, I didn't read a question properly
[08:35] <Eleaf> = p
[08:35] <cryptom> mwe: never tried that one, is it comparable to [k] ubuntu splash?
[08:36] <mwe> cryptom: well you need to pathc the kernel. no big deal though
[08:36] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : That would be a problem, the only other hard disk in this house is on my sisters computer
[08:36] <cryptom> mwe: patching is not the issue...
[08:36] <zcat[1] > buy one, 20G or so.. they're practically giving them away on ebay
[08:36] <VenuS> slm
[08:36] <cryptom> mwe: just like to keep it simple and nice (thats why I switched to [k] ubuntu)
[08:36] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : My parents don't give me money lo
[08:36] <mwe> cryptom: then you get a nice 16bit color 1024x768 boot screen
[08:36] <chicken-man> lol*
[08:37] <paulr_> has anyone managed to get Vice C64 emulator to run? I downloaded the package but I just get an error on running
[08:37] <gimmulf> can somebody please help me im getting like 100 mails locally from the Cron Daemon everyday :( the mail looks like this http://pastebin.com/508564  please help me remove this :)
[08:37] <cgentry72> has anyone got ubuntu to recognize their TV card?
[08:37] <Tac_Work> if anyone has a chance to look at a log file for me that woudl be great.. im a FC4 guy, installing ubuntu on a work machine for them ... and I cant get a GUI up .... gdm dies... i have the log file at http://tmtesting.com/Xorg.0.log ... any help would be appreciated
[08:37] <zcat[1] > sucks to be you. Bite the bullet and go 100% ubuntu. screw windows!
[08:37] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : but what about games, I love games, I can't live without my game :P
[08:37] <mwe> cryptom: and you just make the splash initrd with the utility that comes with it. it doesn't depend on anything but the kernel patch
[08:38] <chicken-man> games*
[08:38] <cryptom> mwe: cool, will try that, thanks
[08:38] <paulr_> i just get this error on running x64 *** glibc detected *** realloc(): invalid next size: 0x0000000000abaf40 ***
[08:38] <paulr_> Aborted
[08:38] <zcat[1] > cgentry72: bt878's are a dream! plug it in and it goes!! apt-get tvtime to watch it.
[08:38] <dwerf> does anybody have experience with wine?
[08:38] <mwe> dwerf: well a little. like wine foobar.exe
[08:39] <dwerf> i'm trying to figure out where the windows virtual disks are located in ubuntu
[08:39] <mtlife> wine is like a cpu hog
[08:39] <mcdenyer> i need to know how to get amarok to add m4a files to the collection when it does a scan and not just add mp3s
[08:39] <cgentry72> bt878?? is that a tv card?
[08:39] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : I'm downloading a demo of partition magic which should show ALL partitions
[08:39] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: see if youre restore disk will let you allocate a smaller partition and leave half the disk unallocated. Then install ubuntu on the unallocated space..
[08:39] <cgentry72> sorry new here to tv cards
[08:39] <dwerf> mwe i'm trying to figure out where the windows virtual disks are located in ubuntu
[08:39] <zcat[1] > otherwise find a non-braindead proper windows install disk..
[08:39] <mwe> dwerf: ~/.wine
[08:39] <_jason> gimmulf, sorry I don't know anything about your problem, but how do you check your mail?  Do you have to setup a server?
[08:40] <redguy> Tac_Work: would you be so kind and post your /etc/X/xorg.conf file and output of lspci ?
[08:40] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : I don't think that can be done on the restore disks, but can it be done from windows ?
[08:40] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: ubuntu livecd's fdisk will show you all partitions..
[08:40] <Tac_Work> redguy: let me go output it for you
[08:40] <C-O-L-T> Who has Thinkfree Office 3.0????? Who has please contact me
[08:40] <dwerf> thanx
[08:40] <mcdenyer> anyone want to help me install steam?
[08:40] <brasko> trappist: I think you were helping me with the SNAT router questions. Well, anyways, I found a work-around. I put the name of the server in my /etc/hosts file, and now things are working. Thought you'd like to know.
[08:40] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : Well if I read right partition magic should as well
[08:40] <dwerf> mwe > what does the ~ stand for?
[08:41] <mwe> mcdenyer: there's a great tutorial on linuxgamer IIRC
[08:41] <mcdenyer> mwe ok ty
[08:41] <zcat[1] > well, yeah.. but why download when you already have all the tools you need?
[08:41] <redguy> dwerf: your home directory
[08:41] <dwerf> check
[08:41] <mwe> dwerf: bash expands it to your homedir
[08:41] <Fordprefect> evening all
[08:41] <trappist> brasko: hadn't thought of that.  good one :)
[08:41] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : ?
[08:41] <mwe> dwerf: /home/dwerf
[08:41] <cgentry72> zcat- b878? is that a tv card?
[08:41] <mcdenyer> mwe can u give me a link for that?
[08:41] <zcat[1] > cgentry72: it's a chipset used in many tv cards.
[08:41] <Fordprefect> why does Ubuntu offer Mplayer and then not allow you to install the libraries needed ??
[08:41] <mwe> mcdenyer: I bet google can. I don't have it at hand
[08:42] <dwerf> mwe > what's bash?
[08:42] <gimmulf> _jason:  i use thunderbird usually
[08:42] <cgentry72> hmmm... well ubuntu didn't pick mine up and it's only about 2 years old
[08:42] <_jason> Fordprefect, what are you talking about?  can you pastebin an error?
[08:42] <zcat[1] > cgentry72: i think my card's a playtv-pro or something..
[08:42] <mwe> dwerf: the shell
[08:42] <gimmulf> _jason:  theese emails is sent to my ubuntu user
[08:42] <Tac_Work> redguy: lspci.txt adn xorg.conf
[08:42] <Fordprefect> pastebin ??
[08:42] <mwe> dwerf: the program that controls the terminal
[08:42] <dwerf> ok
[08:42] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[08:42] <Tac_Work> redguy: on the same server
[08:42] <_jason> ubotu, tell Fordprefect about pastebin
[08:42] <cgentry72> i'm not sure the model of mine cause it only said gigapocket in winblows
[08:42] <cryptom> mwe, is there a way to get something between all boot messages (verbose) and silent? like it is done in [k] ubuntu?
[08:43] <zcat[1] > cgentry72: boot the livecd and lspci, it'll let you the chipset (hopefully) or just google it and see if you can find any more details
[08:43] <chicken-man> OK w00t
[08:43] <cgentry72> alrighty thanks
[08:43] <_jason> gimmulf, I see, how do you set that up?  If you have a keyword I could search or a link, that's all I'm looking for :)
[08:43] <mwe> cryptom: I don't know how that looks. it support ttf text messages and animations that can be executed from the init scripts
[08:44] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : it shows partition C and D (the normal ones I can see) and a small amount of free space (7.8MB)
[08:44] <egil> Since I have used the command e2fsck to repare my hardrive, the partition /dev/hda5 is not mounted automatically, despite of the line "/dev/hda5 /media/hda5 ext3 defaults 0 2" in /etc/fstab. Also, it can be mounted manually without any problem. How to have it mounted automatically ?
[08:44] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : So do you think it's safe to go install ?
[08:44] <mwe> cryptom: for example you could show animated connecting computers when the network comes up or display a text message in color
[08:44] <gimmulf> _jason:  i just think i some months ago tried to add something to crontab that got wrong and now the cron deamon sends theese mails becauce the think i tried to add does not work.
[08:45] <gimmulf> thing
[08:45] <mwe> cryptom: you can also get a progress bar
[08:45] <Fordprefect> _jason right done that,  how do I send it ??
[08:45] <Fordprefect> do I send it to you ??
[08:45] <_jason> Fordprefect, paste the url here
[08:45] <zcat[1] > how big is D? might be safest to resize that if you're not 100% sure.
[08:45] <Fordprefect> one sec
[08:45] <cgentry72> zcat - i get internext compression inc iTVC16
[08:45] <cgentry72> when I do a lscpi
[08:45] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : well over 100GB
[08:45] <mcdenyer> mwe hey u think u cna help m install wine?
[08:45] <Fordprefect> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7217
[08:45] <gimmulf> _jason:  i havent done anything with mail i just use "mail" with standard configuration locally
[08:46] <cryptom> mwe, ok, then I will have a closer look at it
[08:46] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : what tool do you recommend to resize it, as Packard Bell says Partition Magic may cause it to curupt
[08:46] <Manifold> Gpart?
[08:46] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo apt-get install wine
[08:46] <zcat[1] > dunno... I've never resized a drive in my life :)
[08:46] <_jason> gimmulf, well while you wait for someone that knows more... have you tried reading pg-microsites-installer.php, or does that file not exist anywhere?
[08:46] <Fordprefect> does that help Jason
[08:47] <_jason> ubotu, tell gimmulf about mplayer
[08:47] <gimmulf> _jason:  it doesnt exist
[08:47] <cgentry72> zcat - TvTime tells me Cannot open capture device /dev/video0
[08:47] <chicken-man> Does any one in here know a good tool to resize a NTFS drive in XP (not Partition Magic)
[08:48] <Tac_Work> redguy: did you get those?
[08:48] <gimmulf> hmm _jason  do you mean that file belongs to mplayer?
[08:48] <a8s0lut0> would anyone be able to help a particular case of reinstalling GRUB to my MBR after windows took it over?
[08:48] <mcdenyer> mwe i get errors
[08:48] <zcat[1] > chicken-man: if there's nothing on that drive yet, -remove- it and then -recreate it- smaller using the windows tools?
[08:48] <_jason> gimmulf, lol sorry wrong name
[08:48] <gimmulf> _jason:  :)
[08:48] <_jason> ubotu, tell Fordprefect about mplayer
[08:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: what errors?
[08:48] <mcdenyer> mwe couldnt get lock ..unable to lock
[08:48] <jenda> Hey, I'm looking for fontpacks or fonts - Something antique (Rome/Greece) in particular. Any ideas?
[08:48] <gimmulf> !crontab
[08:48] <ubotu> gimmulf: Are you on ritalin?
[08:49] <chicken-man> zcat[1] : it's used to hold user data so no it can't be deleted
[08:49] <lillis> #ubuntu.se
[08:49] <chicken-man> Does any one in here know a good tool to resize a NTFS drive in XP (not Partition Magic)
[08:49] <_jason> gimmulf, 'locate microsites' turn up anything you can read?  after that I would search all the cron stuff for a mention of microsites
[08:49] <mcdenyer> mwe nevemrind i htink it cuasei  had a packamge manager oing
[08:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: close synaptic
[08:49] <mcdenyer> mwe ok got it sry 2nd day of linux :/
[08:49] <jenda> chicken-man: from linux, parted (with ntfsresize) - you can use the frontend, gParted
[08:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: also enable universe if you haven't.
[08:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: don't worry
[08:50] <gimmulf> _jason:  dont find anything, how do i list daily crontab stuff?
[08:50] <zcat[1] > anyhoo.. hafta go do other stuff.. back later
[08:50] <chicken-man> jenda: I do not have Linux installed.
[08:50] <omerix> i have used z600 driver for lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, it is working now but only print, it doesn't scan. How can i scan in this multifunctional printer?
[08:50] <jenda> chicken-man: Why do you ask here, then?
[08:50] <Drac[Server] > I'm trying to install 5.10 on my laptop, but it fails to install initrd-tools every time. I burned the spotless CD at 4x to ensure that the slow drive could read it properly, and it still fails. Any ideas?
[08:50] <chicken-man> jenda: busy there are lot's of people :)
[08:50] <chicken-man> because*
[08:50] <jenda> chicken-man: And you can use a Live CD
[08:51] <_jason> gimmulf, do 'locate cron' and see if any of that stuff mentions microsites, I don't know exactly how ubuntu uses it.  i've only started reading about cron recently
[08:51] <chicken-man> jenda: I don't like the live CD and I want to install it, plus that would mean I have to download the ISO and burn it :(
[08:52] <katie^> what program do you use to copy a dvd to the computer?
[08:52] <neville> hi, got a problem installing/deinstalling lilypond. tried everything (-f / dpkg / dselect, etc.). How can i force it to be removed?
[08:52] <butcherbird> katie^: copy as dvd image or convert to avi?
[08:52] <katie^> what's the difference
[08:52] <katie^> can i burn it as a dvd thing without a dvd writer
[08:52] <vandalin> is anyone else having trouble accessing ubuntuforums.org ?
[08:52] <butcherbird> katie^: well the dvd is going to be several gigs
[08:53] <Drac[Server] > gimmulf, as root, crontab -e should open your crontab file. There you can see what is listed and such. If it doesn't, Ubuntu or yourself in particular may have a weird cron system.
[08:53] <katie^> fun, with a dvd writer, if i get one, can i just say "burn dvd" and it'l burn the whole lot?
[08:53] <katie^> i mean how to ppl get dvds to just 1.5gb say
[08:53] <chicken-man> Does any one know a good, safe tool to resize a NTFS from Windows XP ?
[08:53] <vandalin> is anyone else getting connection refused while trying to access ubuntuforums.org ?
[08:53] <gimmulf> Drac[Server] :  hmm it was empty
[08:53] <chicken-man> NTFS partition *
[08:54] <mcdenyer> mwe ok do i also do this wine cvs thing?
[08:54] <gimmulf> ahh Drac[Server]   not it worked
[08:54] <pestilence> vandalin: yes
[08:54] <mwe> mcdenyer: what?
[08:54] <halibut> Knetload says something is using my upload very heavily, how can I check what it is?
[08:54] <vandalin> alright i guess its just down then..damn
[08:54] <vandalin> anyone know how to link the JRE plugin to firefox real quick?
[08:54] <tuv> isn't there an MTA installed by default?
[08:54] <katie^> butcherbird, avi
[08:54] <Drac[Server] > gimmulf, you probably have nothing in your crontab. Wait... 'not it worked'? You mean to say that you do see your cron listings?
[08:55] <butcherbird> katie^: well you could use dvdshrink using wine or just apt-get dvdrip maybe.
[08:55] <mcdenyer> mwe ok one sec
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> vandalin, You've already installed JRE?
[08:55] <mcdenyer> mwe http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?page=1&articleid=17
[08:55] <vandalin> yes
[08:55] <mcdenyer> mwe if u could go there and look at step 1.2
[08:55] <neville> package lilypond is not installed a so uninstallable . apt doesn't work anymore
[08:55] <Drac[Server] > No comments on my installation problem? :\
[08:55] <pestilence> vandalin: just ln -s /path/to/libjavaplugin*.so ~/.mozilla/plugins
[08:55] <chicken-man> Does any one know a good, safe tool to resize a NTFS partition from Windows XP ?
[08:55] <vandalin> pestilence: thx
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> vandalin, You'll need to make some symlinks, with the line pestilence just gave you.
[08:55] <AnsiC> hello
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> chicken-man, Yeah, the Ubuntu install CD.
[08:56] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says it's optional. either use wine or wine-cvs
[08:56] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says you can also ...
[08:56] <AnsiC> most sysyem have /etc/login.conf
[08:56] <tuv> chicken-man: what's wrong with a linux live cd?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> chicken-man, The program is ntfsresize, part of the ntfsprogs package.
[08:56] <Tac_Work> if anyone has a chance, redguy was helping me out but i think he left me... I cant get a GUI up and running.  it complains about gdm and dies.  I have the following files , lspci.txt, Xorg.0.log, and xorg.conf on http://tmtesting.com/  .. any help would be _greatly_ appreciated... im a fedora guy and im trying to throw this ubuntu ( 5.04) on a work machine
[08:56] <AnsiC> and in that files you can set ulimit
[08:56] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: that isn't *safe* is it?
[08:56] <AnsiC> ubuntu what file use about
[08:56] <AnsiC> ?
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> chicken-man, It's true, the Live CD would be fine too.
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Sure has been for me.
[08:56] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: that isn't the seal of approval :-D
[08:56] <Dreamglider> I Love Ubuntu \o/
[08:57] <chicken-man> I don't want to have to burn the Live Cd
[08:57] <katie^> E: Couldn't find package dvdrip
[08:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts and proceed to step 2
[08:57] <pestilence> chicken-man: i don't think resizing from ubuntu is safe.  backup backup backup
[08:57] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Tried using Partition Magic.  That broke things.  Ubuntu's resizer didn't.
[08:57] <redguy> Tac_Work: oh, sorry, was afk for a moment
[08:57] <_jason> katie^, enable multiverse
[08:57] <redguy> Tac_Work: reading your stuff right now
[08:57] <katie^> that's with the repositories right ? well i enabled them all yesteday
[08:57] <pestilence> tonyyarusso: well, i would have guessed that partition magic was safe.  but i have definitely read that ubuntu's resizer is *not* safe
[08:57] <chicken-man> pestilence: I want to resize from XP
[08:57] <blk> can someone recommand a nice notebook? currently i'm on a Powerbook G4 which i very much like (because it's thin and light) but i miss a digital audio-output. is there something for me (i don't care about processor architecture but battery's gotta hold for at least 4h)
[08:57] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[08:57] <Tac_Work> redguy: no need to apologize .. :) .. thanks
[08:58] <tuv> where can i find system reports that are usually mailed to local root?
[08:58] <pestilence> chicken-man: sounds like partition magic is your answer
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> pestilence, Well, I guess all I have to offer is what's worked for me.  Maybe someone else can say more.
[08:58] <OleA> anyone here having problem accessing http://www.ubuntuforums.org/?
[08:58] <_jason> OleA, down for security updates
[08:58] <OleA> ok, tnx :-)
[08:58] <chicken-man> pestilence: my PC maker (Packard bell) says Partition magic may cause it to corupt ?
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> Anybody using a ThinkPad?  What kind of battery life do you get?
[08:59] <mcdenyer> mwe ok in step 2 do i go sudo get-apt install activeX?
[08:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: no you can't
[08:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: do what it says
[08:59] <pestilence> chicken-man: don't know what to say.
[08:59] <tuv> where can i find system reports that are usually mailed to local root? is there an MTA installed by default or not?
[08:59] <redguy> Tac_Work: lspci shows that you have a Riva128 Video card, is taht true?
[08:59] <Ropechoborra> Quest... wich is the channel for general internet help ??????????
[08:59] <AnsiC> how can i set default ulimit value ????
[08:59] <jouni__m> chicken-man resizing in windows is pain
[08:59] <katie^> hrm
[08:59] <AnsiC> i do not run every time
[09:00] <pestilence> chicken-man: in any event, you should most definitely backup before you attempt anything
[09:00] <rabbit> Hi there, I'm trying to setup a scanner..  it's a CanoScan LiDE 35.   On this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners?highlight=%28scanner%29    it says I may need to edit /etc/udev/rules.d/libsane.rules     which I don't have.   I also don't have the  "genesys"  alias in my aliases file.   Here is an output of sane-find-scanner:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7219
[09:00] <AnsiC> ulimit -s unlimited
[09:00] <pestilence> chicken-man: you will be making a major mistake by not backing up.
[09:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: or follow step 2.2 instead. again you have a choice
[09:00] <Fordprefect> _jason you there ??
[09:00] <Ropechoborra> Quest... wich is the channel for general internet help ??????????
[09:00] <chicken-man> pestilence: the thing I'm worrying about is that I have needed backup data hidden in one of my partitions
[09:00] <rabbit>        xSane tells me there are no devices available
[09:00] <_jason> Fordprefect, I am
[09:00] <Fordprefect> I got a new error -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7220
[09:01] <mcdenyer> mwe ok once ivd dled the tgz  do i just double click it lol
[09:01] <chicken-man> pestilence: that may been needed by my OEM DVD to restore
[09:01] <_jason> Fordprefect, please pastebin the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:01] <pestilence> chicken-man: could be.  i have one of those partitions on my dell.
[09:01] <pestilence> http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html
[09:01] <pestilence> they claim there that it is safe.
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> chicken-man, I have that too (IBM), but I got access to it.
[09:02] <katie^> hrm
[09:02] <chicken-man> pestilence: I have like a 30GB partition for windows / program files and a large partition for all the user data ?
[09:02] <TorbX> Say, what is the alternative to automatix?
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> !easyubuntu
[09:02] <_jason> !easyubuntu
[09:02] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, easyubuntu is a script to install several popular things. It is by nature not 100% safe but better than its alternatives. More info in #easyubuntu, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[09:02] <redguy> Tac_Work: if that is so, you have xorg.conf misconfigured. you can reconfigure it by running "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[09:02] <jouni__m> ubotu tell fordprefect about universe
[09:02] <TorbX> tnx!! :-)
[09:02] <Tac_Work> redguy: couldnt tell ya ... is that something im going to need to tear the machine apart and find out?
[09:02] <chicken-man> pestilence: I HAVE deleted these two partitions and the OEM DVD worked fine, so what do you think ?
[09:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: no. I don't know how exactly to install the activex thing. follow 2.2 instead
[09:03] <pestilence> chicken-man: if you have deleted the partitions and the restore worked fine, then odds are those partitions have nothing to do with restore ;)
[09:03] <chicken-man> pestilence: *deleted them with fdisk on the OEM DVD*
[09:03] <redguy> Tac_Work: not really, try reconfiguring the xserver as i've told you
[09:03] <benplaut> is there any way to switch from gnome to kde without logging out
[09:03] <benplaut> ?
[09:03] <dbzdeath> http://dbzdeath.dyndns.org:1500/tbsource/ <--- does that work for anyone?
[09:04] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[09:04] <pestilence> chicken-man: i don't know.  in any case, if you have the product key for your windows install, you can always install off a downloaded install cd
[09:04] <_jason> dbzdeath, not working here
[09:04] <dbzdeath> _jason: what's it say?
[09:04] <chicken-man> pestilence: Ok Thank you very much I will try this in the morning when my Pirate version of XP is done downloading
[09:04] <mwe> dbzdeath: it's timing out
[09:04] <Seveas> dbzdeath, no
[09:04] <redguy> Tac_Work: don't remember if riva128 had a special driver, if you won't find anything mentioning riva you may try choosing the nv driver
[09:04] <TorbX> What is the better, easyubunto or automatix?
[09:04] <_jason> dbzdeath, nothing, keeps trying to access... should timeout soon
[09:04] <mtlife> did anyone here had trouble getting his mouse, in my case a logitech mx500, to work under xorg?
[09:04] <dbzdeath> argh what the hell
[09:04] <Seveas> TorbX, neither
[09:04] <TorbX> neither...?
[09:05] <Seveas> TorbX, they both suck
[09:05] <mcdenyer> sudo to run somehting do i just type sudo "app name"?
[09:05] <_jason> TorbX, best is learning to do the simple stuff so the hard stuff is easier
[09:05] <redguy> mcdenyer: yes
[09:05] <Seveas> better just browse help.ubuntu.com for what you need
[09:05] <mcdenyer> mwe like sudo wine
[09:05] <TorbX> _jason, what for?
[09:05] <anathema_> hey ive got a problem with java and firefox in linux
[09:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: you don't want sudo wine
[09:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: just wine
[09:05] <butcherbird> ubotu: report chicken-man to MSN
[09:05] <ubotu> butcherbird: I don't know, could you explain it?
[09:05] <anathema_> pages say no java plugin..but in my .mozilla/plugins dir it is there
[09:05] <MeWhOeLsE> Hi, I'm the n00b that was on earlier... I've jsut installed ubuntu 5.1 amd64 and my xserver won't start. I know its due to me not having the ATI (fglrx) packages installed. but when I type "sudo apt-get install xord-driver-fglrx" I get an error saying that the package can't be found. I'm wondering waht I can do in the text based enviroment to avoid this error
[09:05] <anathema_> !java
[09:05] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[09:05] <Fordprefect> _jason -> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7221
[09:06] <anathema_> can anyone help?
[09:06] <pestilence> anathema_: did you restart firefox?
[09:06] <mwe> MeWhOeLsE: xorg-driver-fglrx. not xord
[09:06] <Seveas> anathema_, did you install a java .deb file?
[09:06] <anathema_> yeah
[09:06] <NChief> anyone got steam and cs worging on ubuntu?
[09:06] <NChief> working
[09:06] <Tac_Work> redguy: it said i had a voodoo card when I ran the setup
[09:06] <MeWhOeLsE> Crap... I typed xorg... lol... thats was a typo in my message
[09:06] <anathema_> Seveas: made a deb from the downloaded java bin
[09:06] <pestilence> anathema_: what does about:plugins tell you
[09:06] <mcdenyer> mwe ok it syays create files
[09:06] <_jason> Fordprefect, can you actually paste the text... but I see you have marillat repos in there and other stuff... make yourself a new sources.list with only the community supported repos:
[09:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: go ahead
[09:07] <_jason> ubotu, tell Fordprefect about easysource
[09:07] <mcdenyer> mwe call hl2.reg...
[09:07] <mwe> yeah
[09:07] <mcdenyer> mwe ok whats the command to creat a file
[09:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: gedit hl2.reg and paste the text
[09:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: then save it
[09:07] <Tac_Work> redguy: im dl fedora ... at least im more comfortable with that... its too bad though... i give everyone these cds and then I cant even get it installed myself :-p
[09:07] <anathema_> pestilence: shows shockwave flash
[09:07] <anathema_> and some futuresplash player
[09:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: or use another editor of your choice
[09:07] <pestilence> anathema_: how about java
[09:07] <anathema_> not there
[09:08] <Fordprefect> whats wrong with the marillat sources please ??
[09:08] <anathema_> but pestilence : look
[09:08] <anathema_> anathema@wheinbox:~/.mozilla/plugins$ ls
[09:08] <anathema_> flashplayer.xpt  libflashplayer.so  libjavaplugin_oji.so  libjavaplugin.so
[09:08] <_jason> Fordprefect, they are probably why you are getting those errors
[09:08] <Seveas> Fordprefect, they're for debian - not Ubuntu
[09:08] <mwe> Fordprefect: marillat. isn't that for debian?
[09:08] <Seveas> Fordprefect, ubuntu alternatives are plf and cipherfunk
[09:08] <anathema_> pestilence: the .so is there, but doesnt seem to be loading :(
[09:09] <pestilence> anathema_: readlink ~/.mozilla/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:09] <Fordprefect> are they not valid at all ??
[09:09] <mwe> Fordprefect: yes for debian
[09:09] <arcskon> Does anyone have a Belkin F5D7010 wifi card? I know how to set it up, I just need to get the driver file from somewhere....
[09:10] <Fordprefect> ok I will do a new sources list
[09:10] <Fordprefect> brb
[09:10] <pestilence> anathema_: also, you don't need libjavaplugin.so
[09:10] <mwe> arcskon: ndiswrapper?
[09:10] <arcskon> mwe: yeah...you need to install the driver with ndiswrapper
[09:10] <mcdenyer> mwe how did it know where to put the hl2.reg file?
[09:10] <anathema_> ahhh
[09:10] <anathema_> the link is broken
[09:10] <anathema_> cant believe i didnt check that
[09:11] <mwe> arcskon: then get the windows driver. google will probably help you find it. or the ndiswrapper page for one that's known to work
[09:11] <anathema_> ok i found the original files...
[09:11] <anathema_> pestilence: which should i link it to?
[09:11] <anathema_> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:11] <anathema_> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7-gcc29/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:11] <arcskon> mwe: I know the driver file I want, but I don't have my CD with me and I can't find it on google
[09:11] <pestilence> /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[09:11] <arcskon> mwe: looking for bcmwl5.inf
[09:12] <gratuit> so, if I have a new sound device installed, how would I go about getting ubuntu to detect it?
[09:12] <anathema_> oops did a hard link
[09:12] <anathema_> hope thats ok
[09:12] <mwe> arcskon: here: http://www.google.com/search?q=Belkin+F5D7010+driver first link
[09:12] <mcdenyer> mwe do i have to add something to myu source list for wine?
[09:12] <gratuit> and would there be any reason why lspci wouldn't find a sound device built in to my motherboard?
[09:12] <mwe> mcdenyer: universe
[09:12] <anathema_> thanks a bunch pestilence :D
[09:13] <pestilence> anathema_: np
[09:13] <anathema_> oh wait, didnt work
[09:13] <anathema_> haha
[09:13] <rabbit> Hello can anyone tell me where I can get the "
[09:13] <rabbit> genesys" backend (scanner) for sane  ???
[09:13] <mcdenyer> mwe ?
[09:13] <arcskon> mwe: those are for windows...
[09:13] <mcdenyer> mwe okkk
[09:13] <Edmundo> hello everybody :)
[09:13] <joshi> what happened with www.ubuntuforums.org  ?
[09:13] <mwe> arcskon: yeah that's what you need
[09:13] <_jason> joshi, security updates
[09:14] <mcdenyer> mwe when it syays regedit hl2.reg do i type sudo regedit hl2.reg?
[09:14] <mwe> arcskon: that's what ndiswrapper is all about, using the windows driver
[09:14] <Edmundo> can someone tell me how to setup the grub from windowZ xD
[09:14] <pestilence> sounds like they got hacked
[09:14] <mcdenyer> mwe cuase notihing happened really when i did it
[09:14] <arcskon> mwe: I know that, I've done this before! I don't see how I'm going to get the file from that though
[09:14] <joshi> _jason, how long it will take?
[09:14] <_jason> joshi, no idea, taht just what I heard. Try #ubuntuforums
[09:14] <Fordprefect> thanks :) thats worked a treat :)
[09:14] <mcdenyer> mwe and i get an error when i run wine
[09:15] <Edmundo> what is the french channel for ubuntu ?
[09:15] <Edmundo> pliz
[09:15] <ORiON2012> #ubuntu-fr
[09:15] <Fordprefect> mplayer works perfectly and the sources are greate :)
[09:15] <mcdenyer> mwe and i get an error when i run wine
[09:15] <Edmundo> thks
[09:15] <mwe> mcdenyer: what error?
[09:15] <Fordprefect> and pastebin is cracking
[09:15] <Fordprefect> _jason thanks Dude
[09:16] <_jason> Fordprefect, np
[09:16] <mwe> arcskon: just dl the file and unzip
[09:16] <mcdenyer> mwe well it wierd i run the orgram it it works fine and it finishes
[09:16] <Eleaf> what do you reccomend to get a desktop image in openbox?
[09:16] <mcdenyer> mwe and then a few seconds later errors pop uo in the temrinal
[09:16] <arcskon> okay i'll try that...
[09:16] <mcdenyer> mwe saying...
[09:16] <Fordprefect> I'll shove off and leave you to it :)
[09:17] <mcdenyer> mwe coundt save to registry branch..... :permission denied
[09:17] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, sudo
[09:17] <dexem> is there any problem with ndiswrapper/dapper? I can't use my bcmwl5a
[09:17] <mcdenyer> mwe wineserver: could not save reg branch to...
[09:17] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[09:17] <mwe> mcdenyer: I think you should run wine once first
[09:18] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak hello again :)
[09:18] <flogiston> I'd like a html editor thats super simpel to use, what du you suggest?
[09:18] <gnomefreak> hi mcdenyer
[09:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: wine notepad then try again after closing notepad
[09:18] <mcdenyer> mwe how do  i wine notepad?
[09:18] <deefzi> GRUB says "Filesystem type unknown" when i try to boot Windows from IDE-1 Master (HDA). what should i do? is grub lacking ability to read ntfs or whatever windows' boot sector it is? i installed ubuntu without having my windows-hd connected
[09:18] <mwe> arcskon: you can unzip it even though it's an exe file
[09:19] <competenCe> how do i install froswire.deb  ?
[09:19] <mcdenyer> mwe ok i htink wine is working now
[09:19] <pestilence> deefzi: paste your menu.lst to the pastebin
[09:19] <mcdenyer> mwe how do i do this next step?
[09:20] <Adiddy> hello all
[09:20] <Adiddy> i have what may seem a stupid question
[09:20] <pestilence> deefzi: odds are you are trying to boot linux off the windows disk...
[09:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: what step?
[09:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: did you do the wine regedit hl2.reg?
[09:20] <mcdenyer> mwe he needed dlls
[09:20] <competenCe> how do i install frostwire.deb  ?
[09:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: err
[09:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: regedit hl2.reg
[09:20] <pestilence> competenCe: sudo dpkg -i frostwire.deb
[09:21] <flatlander> hello everyone i quite new to ubuntu and i have a quick question i am putting together a system for a family member and before i got ahead i was wondering if anyone had any experience with a gigabyte GA-K8VM800m Motherboard
[09:21] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[09:21] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah i tyoed sudo regedit hl2.reg
[09:21] <Adiddy> I am trying to ./configure Fuse and it's telling me it cannot find the kernel directory, to specify one in the install string
[09:21] <Adiddy> what do i put there
[09:21] <mcdenyer> mwe im at the part below that
[09:21] <pestilence> Adiddy: ./configure --help
[09:21] <torpedo|dog> I'm preparing to install, and I'm having problems resizing a NTFS partition.
[09:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says to type wine steamInstall.exe
[09:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: you'll have to dl it first of course
[09:22] <deefzi> pestilence, huh? linux off the windows disk?
[09:22] <Seveas> Adiddy, don't compile fuse manually, install it from the repositories
[09:22] <pestilence> Adiddy: do you have the neccessary files installed?  such as kernel headers and/or kernel source
[09:22] <mcdenyer> no
[09:22] <mcdenyer> mwe the part right above installaiton
[09:22] <pestilence> deefzi: just paste your menu.lst to the pastebin
[09:22] <mcdenyer> mwe the part wityh the needed dlls
[09:22] <Cristoforo> helllo - i need some basic help plz on ubuntu os
[09:22] <Seveas> !tell Cristoforo about ask
[09:23] <Lie-Algebra> Hi, I am wondering if "ln -s kernel-source linux-headers-2.6.X linux" and "ln -s /usr/src/linux /usr/src/linux-headers-2.6.X" produce the same result ? (not really sure about the first one)
[09:23] <mwe> mcdenyer: download the dll files like it tells you to do
[09:23] <ORiON2012> Lie-Algebra: no
[09:23] <deefzi> pestilence, http://pastebin.com/508652
[09:23] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[09:23] <mcdenyer> mwe  i just dontk now where the wine folder is
[09:23] <Seveas> Lie-Algebra, they don't and the first is definitely incorrect
[09:24] <mwe> mcdenyer: I told you
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> .wine
[09:24] <ORiON2012> Lie-Algebra: man ln
[09:24] <mcdenyer> mwe i dont understand the linux folder tree
[09:24] <deefzi> pestilence, i installed ubuntu as hda so i had quite trouble making it boot from hdc, but here i am
[09:24] <jariep1__> I just installed Mysql 4.1 server and PHP 4.4.0-3 with adept and PHP-MySQL module but it doesn't show up in PHPinfo, how do I fix this?
[09:24] <ORiON2012> Lie-Algebra: ls*
[09:24] <nawak--> bonjour tout le monde
[09:24] <Cristoforo> Question 1:  If I install the on-hd (not the CD-Live) version of Ubuntu on a separate partition, will it AUTOMATICALLY dual-boot with my Windows XP?
[09:24] <competenCe> pestilence,  after i do that where can i find its location?
[09:24] <mwe> mcdenyer: /home/mcdenyer/.wine
[09:24] <Edmundo> salut
[09:24] <pestilence> deefzi: so where is linux, and where is windows
[09:24] <Seveas> jariep1__, restart apache...
[09:24] <pestilence> competenCe: dpkg -L whateverthepackagenamewas
[09:24] <jariep1__> ok
[09:24] <mwe> mcdenyer: asuming that's your login name of course
[09:24] <competenCe> i did that
[09:24] <cookie__> ubuntu-tr
[09:24] <deefzi> pestilence, oh wait.. the menu.lst isn't up-to-date. i manually stabbed the starting commands on grub just before.
[09:24] <Dr_Willis> Cristoforo,  it should.
[09:24] <deefzi> pestilence, i'll fix what i had in mind
[09:24] <competenCe> now where is the file installation usually stored?
[09:25] <Lie-Algebra> thks :)
[09:25] <Lie-Algebra> for the pretty fast answer;o
[09:25] <ill0gical0ne> anyone know how to override bootmgr?
[09:25] <ill0gical0ne> it will not let me boot from cd
[09:25] <Cristoforo> Thanks Dr. Willis
[09:25] <flatlander> anyone had any experience with Ggabyte GA-K8VM800m  amd64 mainboard?
[09:25] <deefzi> pestilence, i don't know why it booted linux with parametre of (hd0,0) although linux-hd is on ide-2 master
[09:25] <deefzi> pestilence, shouldn't it be something else?
[09:25] <Seveas> ill0gical0ne, your bios should let you boot from it, once you get to the boot manager it's too late :)
[09:25] <pestilence> ill0gical0ne: usually you hit one of the F1-12 keys to get a boot list (during post)
[09:26] <competenCe> pestilence,  now where is the file installation usually stored? after i run that command
[09:26] <deefzi> pestilence, or if that's correct, what should windows' (hdX,0) be?
[09:26] <pestilence> deefzi: i don't know, how are your hard drives set up?
[09:26] <Adiddy> How do i tell synaptic to read from another repository?
[09:26] <mwe> flatlander: it's not recognized?
[09:26] <ill0gical0ne> Seveas, i removed the hdd from the boot order, and it still wont let me
[09:26] <deefzi> ill0gical0ne, IDE-1 Master windows-hd (as it was when i installed it like few months ago, and i figured it's better this way) and IDE-2 master ubuntu-hd
[09:26] <deefzi> ups
[09:26] <nawak-->  Hello, I have just installed amsn and I miss the packages tcltls. Which can help me?
[09:26] <Seveas> ill0gical0ne, that's a bios problem, not an Ubuntu problem...
[09:26] <pestilence> competenCe: whereever the package told it to be installed?  i don't really understand the question
[09:27] <deefzi> the one above was for you pestilence
[09:27] <ORiON2012> ubotu: tell Adiddy about synaptic
[09:27] <mwe> nawak--: frankly amsn sucks bad. use gaim
[09:27] <Seveas> nawak--, apt-get install amsn should have dragged in all dependencies...
[09:27] <flatlander> mwe thanks not recognized at all or just problematic??
[09:27] <competenCe> pestilence, i saved the file on my desktop, i opened a terminal and cd to my desktop and did that command
[09:27] <Seveas> !tell Adiddy about repos
[09:27] <nate__> hey guys, i'm having trouble, my firefox windows spontaneously close down when i try to view certain myspace pages
[09:27] <competenCe> now where is the unpackaged frostwire go?
[09:27] <pestilence> competenCe: so it should be installed.  dpkg -L frostwire should tell you where it went
[09:27] <Dreamglider> Adiddy, -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto?action=show&redirect=HowToEnableTheMultiverseRepositoryInUbuntu#head-afbd77fb4ba4e9396fa48f8ea6e1324838f39e1e
[09:27] <mwe> flatlander: can't you boot ubuntu?
[09:28] <deefzi> pestilence, notice i installed GRUB and Ubuntu without having the windows-hd plugged in. so that is the problem, but now i should fix it
[09:28] <mcdenyer> mwe ok dled them all
[09:28] <nate__> hey guys, i'm having trouble, my firefox windows spontaneously close down when i try to view certain myspace pages
[09:28] <deefzi> pestilence, is linux & grub like lacking some ntfs-support to boot windows, or what?
[09:28] <mwe> mcdenyer: now put them where it tells you to
[09:28] <pestilence> deefzi: ok, so change (hd1,0) to (hd0,0) and vice-versa
[09:28] <Seveas> nate__, that's MS detecting firefox and deciding not to support it ;)
[09:28] <pestilence> deefzi: no, grub will boot windows just fine
[09:28] <deefzi> ok. one sec.
[09:28] <nate__> Seveas, i'm on linux, not ubuntu...
[09:29] <nate__> Seveas, i mean not windows >.<
[09:29] <flatlander> haven't tried yet as i am usually in core 4 but have recently tried ubuntu and like it thought i would set my sis and fam up on it  but before i tried i wanted to try and avoid an pitfalls
[09:29] <Seveas> nate__, but 'myspace' is that msn crud, right?
[09:29] <pestilence> deefzi: you definitely need to change the "root" entry for windows, though, if it is on primary master
[09:29] <nate__> Seveas, hrm, maybe you are right.  F*ckin gates...
[09:29] <nate__> thx
[09:29] <TorbX> Installing Enlightenment 17 on Ubuntu, is that consideres to be somewhat of a big project for a new kid, or...?
[09:30] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm is my hl2.reg file suposed to be in my home foldeR?
[09:30] <pestilence> TorbX: installing anything that is in the repos shouldn't be a big project for anyone
[09:30] <Seveas> pestilence, E17 is not in there :)
[09:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: once you did regedit hl2.reg you don't need it anymore
[09:30] <TorbX> pestilence, E17 is?
[09:30] <phanter> how can I control the sound mixer in command line mode?
[09:30] <nvez> e17 = enlightement
[09:30] <ill0gical0ne> ah hahahahhah
[09:30] <ORiON2012> phanter: alsamixer
[09:30] <pestilence> TorbX: ah ok :-D
[09:30] <ill0gical0ne> quite seriosly
[09:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: asuming it succeeded
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> it helps putting in a cd that will boot
[09:31] <flatlander> sorry so long winded but i have had good luck with gigabyte and amd so far just wanted to pik more expeienced brains than mine
[09:31] <mcdenyer> mwe yes but im sasking if i created hl2.reg in the right folder?
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> instead of AOE3
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> lo..
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> lol*
[09:31] <_jason> ill0gical0ne, indeed...
[09:31] <pestilence> TorbX: well, have you ever compiled anything before?
[09:31] <mwe> mcdenyer: it doesn't matter where you created it
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> soo.. im dumb
[09:31] <pestilence> TorbX: if no, then you might be in for some fun.
[09:31] <mwe> mcdenyer: just run regedit from the same directory
[09:31] <mcdenyer> yes i did
[09:31] <ill0gical0ne> is there anyway to make bootmgr recognize usb keyboards?
[09:31] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[09:32] <medon> heya
[09:32] <mwe> mcdenyer: now go put the dll files in place
[09:32] <mcdenyer> mwe yes mcdenyer doesnt who up in the homefolder
[09:32] <mwe> mcdenyer: I don't understand
[09:33] <deefzi> pestilence, oh. i forgot one thing, but also came to say this: the problem is that grub wouldn't find windows-hd, but that i says "filesystem type unknown." every time i try to boot windows up
[09:33] <TorbX> pestilence, Oh, i want to keep my system as prestine as it is now...
[09:33] <mistik1> is there no way at all to upgrade a debian box to ubuntu linux?
[09:33] <mcdenyer> mwe i cnat find /home/mcdenyer
[09:33] <mcdenyer> mwe mcdenyer is myy account name
[09:33] <pestilence> TorbX: don't be rediculous ;)
[09:34] <mwe> mcdenyer: cd ~
[09:34] <Dr_Willis> ill0gical0ne,  you mean the grub boot loader?
[09:34] <TorbX> Weellll... i dunno
[09:34] <mwe> mcdenyer: then type pwd
[09:34] <pestilence> deefzi: even after you change which hard drive it's looking for?
[09:34] <mwe> mcdenyer: that should bring you there
[09:34] <TorbX> I've got 3ddesktop and all now, its pretty neat now... almost OS X-ish.
[09:34] <mwe> mcdenyer: use nautilus or something if you're not comfortable with the command line
[09:35] <deefzi> pestilence, i didn't test it yet, but i have tested it earlier.
[09:35] <livingtm_> Wow the live CD just puked on my new laptop.  Is the Intel Centrino Duo supported?
[09:35] <deefzi> pestilence, but yeah. i'll give this for one more shot since i changed few things and i'll try that again. then i'll come to cry again if it gets messy :-)
[09:35] <Dr_Willis> livingtm_,  the live cd is a little out of date.. and thats a very new laptop. :P
[09:36] <mcdenyer> mwe does this ~ mean hit enter lol ?
[09:36] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[09:36] <livingtm_> Dr_Willis: maybe if i go for a new full install it will be okay? Debian puked when i tried to install.
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> ~ -> means the tilda key :P
[09:36] <mwe> mcdenyer: but in this case it has the same effect
[09:36] <mcdenyer> ok i did it
[09:36] <mwe> mcdenyer: it expands to the name of you homedir
[09:36] <mcdenyer> mwe now what?
[09:36] <Dr_Willis> livingtm_,  one way to find out.. 5.10 worked good on my laptop.. but the older 5.6 dident work worth a darn. It may be worth trying out dapper.
[09:37] <mwe> mcdenyer: put the dll files in place
[09:37] <flatlander> mwe sorry to bug but can i ask you one more question?
[09:37] <mwe> mcdenyer: please use a file manager
[09:37] <livingtm_> Dr_Willis: Ill give it a shot
[09:37] <mcdenyer> yes a file browseR?
[09:37] <mwe> flatlander: sure I can't guarantee an answer though
[09:37] <mwe> mcdenyer: yes
[09:37] <mcdenyer> mwe ok i open the file manage
[09:37] <mcdenyer> mwe i hit home
[09:38] <korros> hey guys
[09:38] <mwe> mcdenyer: and where are the dll files located?
[09:38] <mcdenyer> mwe on my desktop
[09:38] <mcdenyer> mwe but there is no mcdenyer folder in home
[09:38] <livingtm_> Dr_Willis: http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download isnt that a 5.10 live CD?
[09:38] <simimi> wow so many people
[09:38] <korros> I'm a hardcore noob at linux
[09:38] <flatlander> thx mwe fair enough have you worked with the main board i refered to or have you just read something about it?
[09:38] <fre4k> can some one help me with installing kde .. i'm getting an error using Synaptic
[09:38] <rabbit> How do you setup for reading USB memory keys ???
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> livingtm_,  proberly is. i dont think theres a dapper live cd out yet.
[09:39] <phanter> When I control mpd with phpMp2 then the volumecontrol does not work over the whole volume spectrum. Is this a problem with phpMp2 or with mpd?
[09:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: sigh
[09:39] <simimi> umm I have question about an error message, anyone able to help?
[09:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: that is the name of your homedir
[09:39] <pestilence> fre4k: what is the error
[09:39] <matthewjames> can someone help me? i just installed wine, but i can not find it anywhere
[09:39] <mcdenyer> mwe okok i got it
[09:39] <livingtm_> Dr_Willis: Dapper > 5.10?
[09:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: if you click home or whatever youre probably taken there
[09:39] <korros> I really like linux thus far,but some things are confusing me.
[09:39] <fre4k> pestilence, Failed to fetch http://in.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/k/kdelibs/kdelibs4c2_3.4.3-0ubuntu1_i386.deb
[09:39] <fre4k>   Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.182 80] 
[09:39] <medon> i'm looking to setup a ftpS server, what package can i use?
[09:39] <_jason> simimi, pastebin your error message and give us the link (type /topic to see where to pastebin)
[09:39] <Dr_Willis> livingtm_,  yes. it will be the 6.X or whatever
[09:39] <pigor> matthewjames: you have to use a terminal
[09:40] <mcdenyer> mwe ok im now looking in mcdenyer
[09:40] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[09:40] <mcdenyer> mwe and all i see is desktop and hl2.reg
[09:40] <matthewjames> pigor: i did
[09:40] <simimi> _jason the error is when using rythembox it says "Error could not stop playback" then beneath that "Error could not find resource for writing"
[09:40] <livingtm_> Dr_Willis: Ah ok, thanks. Im new to ubuntu
[09:40] <matthewjames> i updated and installed, bit i can not find anything
[09:40] <mwe> mcdenyer: then go to the desktop and copy the dll files
[09:40] <pigor> matthewjames: wine <windows program>
[09:40] <matthewjames> k
[09:40] <pestilence> fre4k: strange. try updating synaptic
[09:40] <korros> Is there a way to get windows 95 games to run on this that won't cost a ton of money?
[09:40] <pestilence> fre4k: as in, apt-get update
[09:40] <_jason> simimi, what were you viewing when you said that?
[09:40] <intero> hi
[09:40] <mcdenyer> mwe they are zips
[09:41] <fre4k> pestilence, apt-get update synaptic ?
[09:41] <mcdenyer> mwe i have to extract them into the wine folder
[09:41] <mcdenyer> mwe but i cant find the wine folderr
[09:41] <pestilence> fre4k: no, just sudo apt-get update
[09:41] <fre4k> oh....okay
[09:41] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to show hidden files
[09:41] <rabbit> How do you setup for reading USB memory keys ???
[09:41] <fre4k> pestilence, but wont that update all the files
[09:41] <mwe> mcdenyer: files beginning with a . are not shown by default
[09:41] <pestilence> fre4k: yes, that is the idea :-D
[09:41] <mcdenyer> mwe ok how do i change that/
[09:42] <simimi> _jason a *.pls file, www.thaidisco.com
[09:42] <j2daosh> hey has anyone used the aegis virus scanner?
[09:42] <hyphenated> rabbit: plug it in. if you're lucky, you get an icon on your desktop
[09:42] <pestilence> fre4k: it updates your available package list
[09:42] <miky> i can't get totem to read mp3's
[09:42] <mwe> mcdenyer: or click or something or in the menu
[09:42] <rabbit> hyphenated, I'm not lucky : (
[09:42] <pestilence> fre4k: it doesn't update any software
[09:42] <fre4k> pestilence, okay i'll leave it to do that and goto sleep now
[09:42] <hyphenated> rabbit: what happens, nothing?
[09:42] <pigor> fre4k: see "upgrade"
[09:42] <mcdenyer> mwe ok got it
[09:42] <simimi> miky: Check the Ubuntu help files it gives long detail about how to get mp3 codec
[09:42] <_jason> simimi, and is it only files from there that give you the error?
[09:42] <j2daosh> miky... u need to get xmms and the codecs
[09:42] <butcherbird> rabbit: i normally plug in usb and the type ls -t | head that usually shows sdb1 or something then mount /dev/sdb1 /mnt/usb
[09:42] <pestilence> fre4k: it should only take 5 seconds.
[09:42] <simimi> _jason any file for music
[09:42] <fre4k> pestilence, oh...sorry i thought u meant upgrade
[09:42] <pigor> fre4k: update isnt upgrade
[09:42] <mwe> mcdenyer: but you need to unzip them
[09:42] <mwe> mcdenyer: is unzip installed?
[09:42] <fre4k> pigor, thanks got it
[09:42] <_jason> simimi, http://www.thaidisco.com/ is 404 over here
[09:43] <matthewjames> when i go to sda1, it says, permission deniad, how do i fix this?
[09:43] <j2daosh> anyone ever used the aegis anti virus software? i think it is giving me bad reads
[09:43] <mwe> mcdenyer: what happens if you double click the zip file?
[09:43] <mcdenyer> mwe yea im able to unzip
[09:43] <deefzi> pestilence, alright. same problem
[09:43] <j2daosh> matthewjames, u have to change the permissions
[09:43] <rabbit> hyphenated, butcherbird ..   I tried in the back usb port and it worked (but it doesn't in the front one)
[09:43] <matthewjames> how?>
[09:43] <simimi> _jason  omg so sorry, www.thaidisco.net ya?
[09:43] <j2daosh> probably in fstab
[09:43] <pestilence> deefzi: bummer
[09:43] <simimi> linux has virus?
[09:43] <simimi> wow I had no idea
[09:43] <fre4k> pestilence, pigor , done with the update ... shall i run synaptic now ?
[09:44] <j2daosh> do a sudo chmod 777 /mount/point
[09:44] <mwe> mcdenyer: good now figure out how to unzip to /home/mcdenyer/.wine/drive_c/windows/system
[09:44] <butcherbird> rabbit: does lsusb show it?
[09:44] <deefzi> pestilence, hd1,0 is the windows partition and trying to boot it gives: Filesystem type unknown, partition type 0x7
[09:44] <pestilence> fre4k: just sudo aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[09:44] <Hollowman> what is a good PHP editing program?
[09:44] <j2daosh> linux can get a virus... but its the windows one that seems to catch them all
[09:44] <deefzi> pestilence, so something points that grub just can't come up reading windows' boot sector or something...
[09:44] <pestilence> deefzi: i thought you said your windows disk was the primary master??
[09:44] <simimi> _jason, did it work for you ?
[09:44] <deefzi> pestilence, and partition type 0x7 is NTFS
[09:44] <deefzi> pestilence, it is.
[09:44] <StringTheory> k
[09:44] <fre4k> pestilence, whats aptitute?
[09:45] <Hollowman> what is a good PHP editing program?
[09:45] <pestilence> deefzi: hd1,0 is not primary master
[09:45] <deefzi> fre4k, frontend for apt
[09:45] <pestilence> fre4k: it's a smart apt-get
[09:45] <mwe> pestilence: that would be hd0,0
[09:45] <_jason> Hollowman, vim
[09:45] <matthewjames> how do i change the perissions, so i can use wine for windows programs?
[09:45] <Crell42> Hollowman: Kate, part of KDE, or the Zend Dev Studio (commercial).
[09:45] <pestilence> mwe: i know that, i'm trying to get that across to deefzi
[09:45] <mcdenyer> wme it syas i odnt have permissions and ityped in my password
[09:45] <deefzi> pestilence, true. but go figure. bios says it's primary master also (the windows drive)
[09:45] <fre4k> pestilence, deefzi i though synaptic was a front end
[09:45] <fre4k> :(
[09:45] <rabbit> butcherbird, no it doesn't..  only in the back usb port
[09:45] <pestilence> fre4k: they both are.
[09:45] <mwe> pestilence: heh
[09:45] <redguy> Hollowman: quanta can handle php pretty well too.
[09:45] <pigor> matthewjames: permissions?
[09:45] <butcherbird> rabbit: front works in xp?
[09:45] <Hollowman> how do you remove programs?
[09:46] <ORiON2012> Hollowman: Quanta too
[09:46] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  permissions on what?
[09:46] <Hollowman> i installed some stupid php program and want to get it off
[09:46] <rabbit> butcherbird, yes in both ports (it's a dell desktop btw)
[09:46] <Hollowman> to try one of the ones you are suggesting
[09:46] <_jason> simimi, yes I pressed tune in and it was working, does it start playing for you?
[09:46] <deefzi> mwe, yea! i know how grub drive naming goes and so on, and bios also says that windows-hd (ide-1 master) is ide-1 master!
[09:46] <Crell42> Hollowman: aptitude remove packagename
[09:46] <deefzi> mwe, but on grub hd1,0 is the windows-hd :I
[09:46] <matthewjames> permissions on my partition  to access my windows partition, to use wine
[09:46] <pestilence> deefzi: some programs number from 0, some from 1
[09:46] <pestilence> grub goes from 0
[09:46] <Hollowman> how do i know the package name?
[09:46] <mwe> pestilence: I've been spendig 15 minutes trying to get someone to cp some dll files to ~/.wine/c/windows/system from ~
[09:46] <rabbit> butcherbird, if I can't use the front, I have to crawl under my desk whenever I want to use the usb key
[09:46] <deefzi> pestilence, i know that also.
[09:46] <pigor> matthewjames: windows xp ?
[09:46] <pestilence> mwe: haha
[09:46] <simimi> _jason no, it does not, but I use Rythembox cause it is default
[09:46] <Crell42> You installed it, didn't you?
[09:47] <matthewjames> yes, xp
[09:47] <_jason> simimi, try opening it with totem instead
[09:47] <deefzi> pestilence, hda, hdb etc start from 1 yea yea.
[09:47] <butcherbird> rabbit: ive had some wierd issues on the front usb ports on dells at works sorry regular mounting and such about as far as my knowledge goes
[09:47] <C-O-L-T> does exist skype video 2.0 for Linux?
[09:47] <pestilence> deefzi: ok, so if /dev/hda1 is windows, grub should have hd0,0
[09:47] <pigor> matthewjames: it is difficult - nfs seems not to be supported by ubuntu
[09:47] <matthewjames> k
[09:47] <rabbit> butcherbird,   that's weird..       okay thanks
[09:47] <pigor> matthewjames: i dont know a solution
[09:47] <deefzi> pestilence, yes. i tried that also, but when i boot from hd0,0 it says partition type ext2fs which occurs that grub understands hd0,0 as linux
[09:47] <matthewjames> k, np
[09:47] <Dreamglider> i need help with synergy
[09:47] <deefzi> pestilence, and i booted to linux with hd0,0
[09:48] <tafsen> what's happening with ubuntuforums.org ?
[09:48] <pestilence> deefzi: are you in linux right now?
[09:48] <redguy> pigor: ubuntu supports nfs fine. maybe you meant ntfs?
[09:48] <pestilence> deefzi: on the machine you are trying to fix
[09:48] <deefzi> pestilence, and fdisk -l gives also windows as hda
[09:48] <deefzi> pestilence, on linux with the "broken" machine
[09:48] <pigor> matthewjames, redguy: yes .. sorry
[09:48] <Coolstuff> guys whats teh best ubuntu forum?
[09:48] <pestilence> deefzi: could you do sudo fdisk -l /dev/hda ?
[09:49] <mwe> Coolstuff: ubuntuforums.com
[09:49] <pestilence> deefzi: and put it on pastebin
[09:49] <dexem> is there any problem with ndiswrapper/dapper? I can't use my bcmwl5a because it does not create wlan0 device
[09:49] <deefzi> i'll pastebin whole stdout of fdisk -l
[09:49] <simimi> _jason  hmm how do I actually open it -with- totem?
[09:49] <Coolstuff> cheers
[09:49] <mcdenyer> why cant i extact  something even after i type in my password
[09:49] <triple5> hi  everybody
[09:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: you can. the destination needs to be valid
[09:49] <butcherbird> shrike_00: maybe you could help rabbit out. being a minor linux deity and all
[09:49] <Coolstuff> mwe: are they down at the minute?
[09:50] <deefzi> pestilence, http://pastebin.com/508699
[09:50] <bmsleight> ssam, Thanks for you help yestday getting Ubuntu-Breezy working on an iMac. My network went down, so got booted off irc. ANyway - thanks agian
[09:50] <pigor> matthewjames: you can just read .. but there may be a solution .. i dont know
[09:50] <mwe> mcdenyer:  you shouldn't use sudo for it in the first place
[09:50] <butcherbird> lol
[09:50] <intero> bluefoxicy: hi :)
[09:50] <_jason> simimi, you have two choices: 1) copy the link, open totem, file -> open: link;  or 2) when firefox wants you what you want to do choose "other" and navigate to filesystem -> usr -> bin -> totem
[09:50] <munzir_> hi sirs, svn: REPORT of '/svn/development/test1/!svn/bc/19': 400 Bad Request mostly because I am behind a proxy. how can I pass th proxy to it. http_proxy env didn't work
[09:50] <mcdenyer> mwe it is valid
[09:50] <ssam> bmsleight, glad to help
[09:50] <mwe> Coolstuff: don't know they were the other day. let me check
[09:50] <pestilence> deefzi: sure looks like your grub should read (hd0,0) for windows
[09:50] <fre4k> pestilence, again kdelib4c2 failed
[09:50] <fre4k> :(
[09:50] <deefzi> pestilence, but grub takes hd0,0 as linux.
[09:50] <ssam> bmsleight, is everything working well now?
[09:50] <mwe> Coolstuff: no. but it's ubuntuforums.org. sorry
[09:51] <pestilence> deefzi: that definitely should *not* work
[09:51] <deefzi> pestilence, any ideas? should i try consult someone with higher grub experience? :I
[09:51] <simimi> _jason  wow ok I was not sure where totem was, ok let me try this
[09:51] <pestilence> deefzi: is your most current menu.lst on pastebin?
[09:51] <deefzi> pestilence, yes. and grub sees hd1,0 as ntfs-partitioning
[09:51] <matthewjames> hey, everytime i try to enter my password to show updates, it says this, Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[09:51] <matthewjames>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:51] <mwe> mcdenyer: unzip them to the desktop then. after that move them in place
[09:51] <redguy> deefzi: right, where is your menu.lst?
[09:51] <tafsen> What's wrong with ubuntuforums.org?
[09:51] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[09:51] <Coolstuff> hehe np
[09:51] <_jason> tafsen, security updates, #ubuntuforums
[09:51] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[09:52] <deefzi> pestilence, well i could put it... but i'm 101% guaranteed that i'm booting the hd0,0 as linux.
[09:52] <mwe> mcdenyer: and no sudo
[09:52] <deefzi> redguy, ok.. just for sure i'll put it there
[09:52] <pestilence> deefzi: i am 101% confident you aren't ;)
[09:52] <matthewjames> hey, everytime i try to enter my password to show updates, it says this, Failed to run /usr/bin/update-manager as user root:
[09:52] <matthewjames>  Unable to copy the user's Xauthorization file.
[09:53] <tafsen> Have anybody here got WoW to work with Wine?
[09:53] <deefzi> pestilence & redguy, http://pastebin.com/508709
[09:53] <bmsleight> ssam, Yep vertything looks good. Just had to reconfigure xorg, then fine. Just need to grab marillat mplayer and I am all set.
[09:53] <mcdenyer> mwe syas i need permissxion to move those files in
[09:53] <rabbit> Scanner Question:    Does anyone know how I can get the "genesys" backend for my Canon Scanner??
[09:53] <mcdenyer> mwe the whole wine folder is locked
[09:53] <lotusleaf> tafsen: as explained in a recent post, lots of security upgrades currently + 2,000+ users hitting the site at once ;)
[09:53] <bmsleight> ssam, s/vertything/everthing
[09:53] <ssam> bmsleight, cool
[09:53] <bmsleight> :)
[09:53] <mcdenyer> mwe im not using sudo i dont even have terminal ipened
[09:53] <mcdenyer> mwe opened*
[09:54] <pigor> matthewjames: perhaps a restart can help you ?!?
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  i hear it works with Cedega - not heard anything about the standared wine and it..
[09:54] <pestilence> deefzi: how in the world did you get into linux?
[09:54] <vbgunz> Can someone help me with this error: error: Library requirements (gtk-sharp-2.0 >= 2.4.0) not met; consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if your libraries are in a nonstandard prefix so pkg-config can find them.
[09:54] <deefzi> pestilence, with the first one of the list :-)
[09:54] <pestilence> deefzi: regardless, change line 118 to
[09:54] <pigor> vbgunz: when does it appear?
[09:54] <deefzi> pestilence, no changes. 100% guaranteed.
[09:54] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, I know that lot's of ppl has mange to get it to work with Wine
[09:54] <pestilence> deefzi: root            (hd0,0)
[09:55] <deefzi> pestilence, what's on line 118? my nano is buggy and i cant remember the command
[09:55] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  heh - well i found it to be a Pain with cedega.. way too many silly little quirks
[09:55] <deefzi> pestilence, oh wow. the first time it isn't :D
[09:55] <vbgunz> pigor: I am trying to ./configure mono-develop... I installed some of the requirements (I think all) but I get that error at the end when I run ./configure
[09:55] <pestilence> deefzi: just below #
[09:55] <pestilence> title           Windows 2000, SP4
[09:55] <deefzi> pestilence, nothing. i'll check line
[09:55] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak hey
[09:55] <deefzi> pestilence, i tried hd0,0 as well. it says it's ext2fs.
[09:55] <matthewjames> after downloading wine, how do i compile it?
[09:55] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak im having problems moving files into the wine folder
[09:56] <rabbit> Scanner Question:    Does anyone know how I can get the "genesys" backend for my Canon Scanner??
[09:56] <pigor> vbgunz: have you installed gtk-sharp*dev - packages?
[09:56] <lotusleaf> matthewjames: you can download the .deb thus negating the need to compile it unless you want cvs
[09:56] <fre4k> pestilence, kdelibs4cs still failes :(
[09:56] <saif> i have downloaded web in linux, i have copied it and now i'm trying to pasting it in some windows drive but i can't
[09:56] <pestilence> deefzi: what says it's ext2fs?
[09:56] <matthewjames> where download the .deb?
[09:56] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, k, ppl say that it works perfect with wine... But some guy said that I had to downgrade the OpenGL to get it to work =\
[09:56] <vbgunz> pigor: yes
[09:56] <omerix> i have used z600 driver for lexmark X1195 multifunctional printer, it is working now but only print, it doesn't scan. How can i scan in this multifunctional printer?
[09:56] <saif> how can i paste file into windows drive
[09:56] <vbgunz> one sec
[09:56] <pestilence> fre4k: try a different repository?
[09:56] <deefzi> pestilence, grub when i try to boot that windows 2k with hd0,0
[09:57] <ibmnotebook> does anybody know BYNARI and did a successful install on an ubuntu server?
[09:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: where is the wine directory? is it in your homedir or what?
[09:57] <matthewjames> where download the .deb?
[09:57] <vbgunz> pigor: no
[09:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: it should be
[09:57] <fre4k> pestilence, is there a list of repos somewhere?
[09:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: and you should own it
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  'perfect' is not the term i would use. :P    lets say it works good enough to be 'playable' untill the next patch for WoW comes out and breaks stuff again.
[09:57] <mcdenyer> mwe its in mcdenyer
[09:57] <vbgunz> I don't think so.. which one do I need. gtk-sharp2 correct?
[09:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: and the name is .wine
[09:57] <deefzi> pestilence, then it let's me go back to the menu. when i change it to 0,0 it tries to boot windows but outputs "Filesystem type unknown. Partition type 0x7 (i.e. NTFS, so it's windows) and stalls.
[09:57] <saif> how can i paste file into windows drive
[09:57] <ibmnotebook> there is no DEB for BYNARI. got to do it with alien
[09:57] <Dr_Willis> omerix,  check out the "SANE" home page to see if the scanner is supported.
[09:58] <pigor> vbgunz: but perhaps you have got the wrong version .. you need a version >=2.4.0
[09:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: is it owned by you? it should be
[09:58] <Storkme> why is my sound quality on ubuntu so awful???
[09:58] <mcdenyer> mwe what do you mean owned?
[09:58] <brasko> 15:57 <@Nathan> AuthName thesnowflies
[09:58] <brasko> 15:57 <@Nathan> AuthType Basic
[09:58] <brasko> 15:57 <@Nathan> AuthUserFile /WWW_USER/nathan/thesnowflies/upload/.htpasswd
[09:58] <brasko> 15:57 <@Nathan> Require valid-user
[09:58] <deefzi> pestilence, can this be considered as a bug, since i'm also confused cause i'm aware that hd0,0 SHOULD be windows, but GRUB thinks it's linux.
[09:58] <triple5> IS someone here for server questions,  I am setting up postfix with courier-imap courier-pop (+ssl) mysql etc. (debian-sarge) My Problem, the smtpd doesn't handle the requests, I don't know the appropriate ways for diagnostics, my tail /var/log/syslog after I send mail (from local is at: http://pastebin.com/508718 )
[09:58] <brasko> Ouch, sorry!
[09:58] <vbgunz> pigor: :'( the highest version available in Synaptic is 2.39 I think :(
[09:58] <mcdenyer> mwe its in my folder
[09:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: I mean what I say. files have owners
[09:58] <ibmnotebook> saif NTFS or FAT?
[09:58] <Storkme> why is my sound quality on ubuntu so awful???
[09:58] <pestilence> deefzi: well, it could be an issue with the groot option
[09:58] <redguy> deefzi: what was your problem again? that configuration actually works? did you swap the hard drives by any chance?
[09:59] <ssam> Storkme, have you had a play with all the sliders in the volume control panel
[09:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need properties or long listing or something. I'm not familiar with nautilus
[09:59] <saif> ibmnotebook,  NTFS
[09:59] <deefzi> redguy, you mean virtual swapping or physical swapping?
[09:59] <pestilence> deefzi: try changing groot to hd2,0
[09:59] <pigor> vbgunz: thats a problem .. you need a higher version - i think
[09:59] <deefzi> redguy, i thought of making virtual swap, but i didn't.
[09:59] <ssam> Storkme, right clcik on the volume applet and choose open volume control
[09:59] <vbgunz> pigor: it's cool, I think you're right... this blows :P
[09:59] <ibmnotebook> saif not possible with nativ ubuntu... read only
[09:59] <mcdenyer> mwe it says tghe owner is root
[09:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: why
[09:59] <pigor> vbgunz: perhaps there is a binary?
[09:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: that's wrong
[09:59] <deefzi> pestilence, groot shouldn't make difference since it's only read by update-grub, not grub the bootloader, i think. (or was told to...)
[10:00] <Storkme> ssam, tried that, no luck
[10:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: did you run sudo wine or something?
[10:00] <pestilence> fre4k: http://ubuntulinux.org/download
[10:00] <vbgunz> pigor: no, I don't think so, I went looking for it and could not find it
[10:00] <mcdenyer> mwe i just did sudo get-apt install wine
[10:00] <deefzi> pestilence, see cause it's uncommented line so grub the bootloader doesn't read it.
[10:00] <triple5> I am setting up postfix with courier-imap courier-pop (+ssl) mysql etc. (debian-sarge) \r\n\r\n\r\nMy Problem my tail /var/log/syslog after I send mail (from local is at: http://pastebin.com/508718 )
[10:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: what about wine notepad
[10:00] <saif> ibmnotebook, so any other way to do it?
[10:00] <deefzi> pestilence, and by uncommented i mean #'ed
[10:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: that didn't happen to be sudo wine notepad?
[10:00] <vbgunz> pigor: its ok, I'll live without it and soak in my own misery
[10:00] <vbgunz> :P
[10:00] <fre4k> pestilence, thanks checking it out
[10:00] <mcdenyer> mwe i dont know what you mean by wine notepad
[10:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: didn't you run wine notepad for testing like I told you to
[10:01] <pestilence> deefzi: you are probably right that only update-grub reads them, but i don't think the #'s protect them from update-grub, just grub
[10:01] <mcdenyer> mwe no
[10:01] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, is there a place at the IRC where I can ask about wine and WoW?
[10:01] <deefzi> redguy, the problem was that my GRUB thinks hd0,0 is linux although it's really windows (as you can see from fdisk -l table => it's /dev/hda) and let's me boot to windows with hd0,0
[10:01] <mwe> mcdenyer: so wine has not been run yet?
[10:01] <Storkme> why is my sound quality on ubuntu so awful???
[10:01] <triple5> sorry, I got the wrong channel...
[10:01] <mcdenyer> mwe i did sudo wine thought like the site tole me to
[10:01] <mcdenyer> mwe no ive run it
[10:01] <mwe> mcdenyer: that's bad info
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  not that ive seen. perhaops in #wine     best bet would be the various wine message boards and forums.
[10:01] <lotusleaf> Storkme: we heard you the first time
[10:01] <mcdenyer> mwe it said run wine
[10:01] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  you having some specific issue getting it working?
[10:01] <deefzi> pestilence, yes, i mean't that grub skip's them but they are used by update-grub. but still we're on the same tracks: groot doesn't affect my booting-problem anyhow.
[10:01] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to go to a terminal a change owner and group
[10:01] <mcdenyer> mwe and when i tried to run it witrhout sudo it didnt work
[10:02] <Storkme> lotusleaf, but the person who knows the answer, didn't ;)
[10:02] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:02] <saif> is there anyone who can help me out, i want to paste game in my windows NTFS drive
[10:02] <mwe> mcdenyer: never run wine with sudo
[10:02] <ibmnotebook> saif check this out http://linux-ntfs.sourceforge.net/info/ntfs-de.html
[10:02] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, yes...
[10:02] <saif> ibmnotebook,  ok
[10:02] <lotusleaf> Storkme: try a more detailed question, perhaps? :)
[10:02] <mwe> mcdenyer: open a terminal
[10:02] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:02] <Dr_Willis> saif,  use that driver that lets windows read linux partitions
[10:02] <Hollowman> ok i installed kate, now how do i start it?  i dont see it in the menu
[10:02] <Storkme> lotusleaf, i don't know what to include! randomly, the sound just started to go downhill
[10:02] <mwe> mcdenyer: tell me the output of "pwd" witout quotes
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> saif, http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html
[10:03] <mcdenyer> mwe what do you mean?
[10:03] <mcdenyer> mwe outpuit of pwd?
[10:03] <redguy> deefzi: as for swapping I meant physical swapping. did you swap the drives? (not sure why i'm asking this, but swapping disks with grub rings a bell somewhere)
[10:03] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, X Error of failed request:  GLXUnsupportedPrivateRequest
[10:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: I mean type that command. pwd. then tell me the respons
[10:03] <saif> well, i don't want windows to read linux partitions.
[10:03] <Dr_Willis> tafsen,  :P good luck then. you got the full 3d stuff going for your video card?
[10:03] <pestilence> deefzi: wait.  so you have linux installed on /dev/hdc but when you installed it was on /dev/hda?
[10:03] <saif> i only wanted to move a file from ubuntu to windows
[10:04] <mcdenyer> nwe it says .home/mcdenyer
[10:04] <pestilence> deefzi: is grub installed on /dev/hda ?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> saif,  then email or copy the stuff some where . You do NOT want to write to a NTFS drive from whtin linux.
[10:04] <mwe> mcdenyer: not /home/mcdenyer ?
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> saif,  writing with NTFS under linux can trash the NTFS drive.
[10:04] <Dr_Willis> saif,  its that simple.
[10:04] <tafsen> Dr_Willis, yes
[10:04] <ibmnotebook> does alien create more than a deb file or a deb file only?
[10:04] <mcdenyer> mwe yes its /home/mcdenyer
[10:04] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[10:04] <simimi> _jason  umm... it says there is no plugin to handle this movie, in TOTEM?
[10:04] <Hollowman> ok i installed kate, now how do i start it?  i dont see it in the menu
[10:04] <saif> Dr_Willis,  its mean i must try fs driver
[10:04] <_jason> ubotu, tell simimi about multimedia
[10:05] <mwe> now carefully type sudo chown -R mcdenyer:mcdenyer .wine
[10:05] <deefzi> redguy, yes i swapped them previously. here's a long story short: i had windows-hd as ide-1 master (hda) before linux. i removed that drive for a sec and installed ubuntu as ide-1 master (hda also.). then i had to swap windows drive back to hda and put linux on hdc (ide-2 master.) i changed /etc/fstab's parametres so i could get to linux and now i can use linux as hdc, but windows can't still be dual-booted with grub
[10:05] <Dr_Willis> saif,  i use that ext2 thing udner windows all the time ;P i even keep my spare windows data on ext2 partitions now.
[10:05] <deefzi> pestilence, no it isn't. i use hdc as primary boot device.
[10:05] <pestilence> deefzi: oh.
[10:05] <deefzi> pestilence, (well, secondary, CDROM is primary)
[10:05] <mcdenyer> mwe ok i type sudo chown -r?
[10:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[10:06] <mcdenyer> mwe then i type mcdenyer .wine?
[10:06] <saif> cool
[10:06] <simimi> _jason but I thought I got all of the startguide codecs...
[10:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo chown -R mcdenyer:mcdenyer .wine
[10:06] <saif> well i'm re-starting my pc
[10:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: capital R
[10:06] <saif> let me log with xp and download that soft
[10:06] <simimi> _jason how can I know which one I would need to play the filetype?
[10:06] <_jason> simimi, did you also get totem-xine?
[10:06] <mcdenyer> mwe ok first sudo chown -R
[10:06] <mwe> mcdenyer:
[10:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[10:06] <deefzi> pestilence, should i just try reinstalling grub or what... :p
[10:07] <redguy> deefzi: after the swap, did you install grub again?
[10:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: type the whole thing
[10:07] <deefzi> pestilence, this situation is more than absurd
[10:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo chown -R mcdenyer:mcdenyer .wine
[10:07] <mcdenyer> mwe and then mcdenyer /wine?
[10:07] <deefzi> redguy, no.
[10:07] <mcdenyer> mwe ok ill justy copy it
[10:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: no dammit
[10:07] <miky> it seems all the plug ins are installed... but i still can't manage to play mp3 files
[10:07] <mwe> *sigh*
[10:07] <lotusleaf> miky: sounds like the perfect time to learn and love the superior .ogg format
[10:07] <_jason> simimi, you need "MPEG 1 Layer 3 CBR", but if you installed all the starter guide codecs please try installing totem-xine like that page describes
[10:07] <mcdenyer> mwe sudo chown -R mcdenyer:mcdenyer .wine
[10:07] <mcdenyer>  good?
[10:07] <deefzi> redguy, but i don't see how it helps the problem grub can't load windows.
[10:07] <pestilence> deefzi: well, i don't know about having grub and booting off of the secondary master.  that doesn't sound right.  i don't have any experience with that.  i have never had any problems booting and running grub from the primary master
[10:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: YES! you got it
[10:08] <mcdenyer> mwe ok  its all on one line in console
[10:08] <pestilence> deefzi: so i would try installing grub on /dev/hda
[10:08] <mwe> mcdenyer: right
[10:08] <mcdenyer> mwe i mean its all on one line in temrinal
[10:08] <mwe> mcdenyer: right
[10:08] <deefzi> redguy, i'm not bothered that grub keeps confusing what really should be hd0 and what should be hd1 as long as i get to boot to both OS'es, but i can't.
[10:08] <mcdenyer> mwe ok done
[10:08] <mwe> great
[10:08] <deefzi> pestilence, i wouldn't. i don't want to mess my windows.
[10:08] <miky> what package do i need to download in order to play mp3's?
[10:08] <redguy> deefzi: afaik when installed grub makes a map of where to look for next bootloaders. for example even if you resize or move your partitions you might have to reinstall grub
[10:08] <mwe> mcdenyer: now tell me what "ls -ld .wine" says
[10:09] <mwe> mcdenyer: no quotes
[10:09] <simimi> _jason got totem-xine
[10:09] <bosco> 0000:00:0b.0 networkcontroller: linksys admtek adm 8211 802.11b wirelessinterface "rev 11"  can somebody help me with this i am trying to get internet on my home computer but i cant get it running this what i am working with
[10:09] <redguy> deefzi: the other thing is booting from hdc, not sure how bios manages to do that
[10:09] <deefzi> redguy, hmm. i see. but still can i install grub on hdc?
[10:09] <_jason> simimi, and still not working?
[10:09] <mcdenyer> mwe mcdenyer@MarksBox:~$ ls  -ld .wine
[10:09] <mcdenyer> drwxr-xr-x  4 mcdenyer mcdenyer 4096 2006-01-16 13:15 .wine
[10:09] <pestilence> deefzi: whatever.  installing grub on the MBR shouldn't do anything to windows.
[10:09] <deefzi> redguy, well bios let's me fine on grub's boot menu
[10:09] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[10:10] <mwe> mcdenyer: now for a test type
[10:10] <Drac[Server] > Regarding my previous error, if anyone was concerned... It was a corrupt disc.
[10:10] <deefzi> redguy, and shouln't bios be handled all command to grub from that on?
[10:10] <mwe> mcdenyer: wine notepad
[10:10] <mwe> mcdenyer: tell me if it opens notepad
[10:10] <mcdenyer> yes it does
[10:10] <mwe> mcdenyer: good just close notepad
[10:10] <deefzi> pestilence, it shouldn't and i know that it could be fixed with fixmbr on windows console, but i'm not willing to risk it. there's gotta be another solution so that i keep my windows-hd still bootable
[10:10] <mcdenyer> mwe but there notihign in it?
[10:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: good just close notepad
[10:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: good just close notepad
[10:11] <Hollowman> does kate color code php text?
[10:11] <Hollowman> and other code?
[10:11] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: I just wanted to know if wine works
[10:11] <deefzi> redguy, by that i mean that when GRUB starts off, then bios is no longer responsible for anything.
[10:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: now what did you type to get the hl2.reg in?
[10:11] <difcoco> hey !
[10:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: still have the file?
[10:11] <bosco> 0000:00:0b.0 networkcontroller: linksys admtek adm 8211 802.11b wirelessinterface "rev 11"  can somebody help me with this i am trying to get internet on my home computer but i cant get it running this what i am working with
[10:12] <pestilence> deefzi: put your windows disk as the secondary master?
[10:12] <simimi> _jason yes sir, not working...maybe I check if I have all codecs. can I get that one you said I needed in the term via apt-get install?
[10:12] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:12] <redguy> deefzi: but it might mess things up :/ i would try reinstalling grub on hdc first
[10:12] <mcdenyer> mwe i have the hl2.reg file in mcdenyer
[10:12] <mwe> mcdenyer: do you still have that file, hl2.reg?
[10:12] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[10:12] <mcdenyer> mwe when i created it using terminal it made it there
[10:12] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !help
[10:12] <mwe> mcdenyer: type regedit hl2.reg
[10:12] <skel> how can I see everyone on the server from a certain ip?
[10:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: tell me if you get errors
[10:13] <skel> I mean on the irc server that is
[10:13] <skel> it's like /who !@x.x.x.x ?
[10:13] <mcdenyer> mwe no
[10:13] <mcdenyer> mwe but noithgn really happens
[10:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: that's a good sign
[10:13] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:13] <deefzi> pestilence, no... then i would be back right where i started
[10:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: now you should be able to copy the dll files to the right place
[10:14] <mcdenyer> mweo k
[10:14] <saif> Dr_Willis : i'm now on windows XP
[10:14] <pestilence> deefzi: what is wrong with having the linux disc as primary master and windows disk as secondary master?
[10:14] <deefzi> pestilence, cause the original reason why i wanted to move it back to hda is because it was originally installed as hda and some people say windows can't boot itself properly while being on some other position that ide-1 master
[10:14] <mcdenyer> mwe y does the hl2.reg file not hve to be in the4 wuine folder
[10:14] <pestilence> deefzi: which is a lie.
[10:14] <mcdenyer> mwe it seems to just kind of be floating in mcdenyer folde
[10:14] <jrattner1> Are the ubuntu forums down?
[10:15] <_jason> simimi, 'sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse gstreamer0.8-plugins gstreamer0.8-ffmpeg gstreamer0.8-mad vorbis-tools lame faad gstreamer0.8-lame sox mjpegtools ffmpeg', that is just what the guide tells you and if you have something it will only install what you are missing
[10:15] <mwe> mcdenyer: you can delete it now
[10:15] <mwe> mcdenyer: the regedit hl2.reg adds the info the the wine registry
[10:15] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm ok
[10:16] <mcdenyer> mwe ok next step
[10:16] <deefzi> pestilence, yes, i know that it can be booted from ide-2 master
[10:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: now copy the dll files to the right dir
[10:16] <simimi> _jason oh ok, I will try again
[10:16] <deefzi> pestilence, but i made a mistake when i wanted to play it safe and took windows-hd off when i installed ubuntu
[10:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: /home/mcdenyer/.wine/drive_c/windows/system
[10:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: after unzipping
[10:16] <deefzi> pestilence, if i would had it plugged in aswell ubuntu would've automatically added windows to grub's boot list and it would've been fine
[10:16] <pestilence> deefzi: so i don't understand the problem.  hook the windows disk up to secondary master, and you should be done.
[10:17] <Dreamglider> can anyone help me setup synergy ?
[10:17] <saif> Dr_Willis, tell me how to use that programe?
[10:17] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah i unzipped and in the instructions it says make sure that the shlwapi.dll is bigger then 60k bytes
[10:17] <deefzi> pestilence, but i didn't want to take that risk that i accidentally would have messed up my windows partitions or anything similar to that
[10:17] <jrattner1> Has anyone had any problems with the new Amarok package, from "update manager", amaroK could not find any sound-engine plugins. amaroK is now updating the KDE configuration database?
[10:17] <mcdenyer> mwe and rthe one i got is only 36 k bytes
[10:17] <deefzi> pestilence, it doesn't boot from hdc neither.
[10:17] <joshi> I have 20GB disk. Is it ok to have 10GB for WinXP and Ubuntu each?
[10:18] <saif> joshi yeah
[10:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: I don't know why that is. google and find another one that has the right size then. or is it the zipped one thats 36k?
[10:18] <pestilence> deefzi: strange.  have you tried a grub channel
[10:18] <deefzi> joshi, hope you have another disk for /home and for windows' media storage
[10:18] <deefzi> pestilence, no. where's it located?
[10:18] <Dr_Willis> saif,  http://www.fs-driver.org/index.html - it puts a control-panel icon you use to assign drives. it has docs :P
[10:19] <joshi> deefzi, i dont need much to store on my comp :)
[10:19] <pestilence> deefzi: #grub?
[10:19] <Dreamglider> joshi, that's what we all say :)
[10:19] <mcdenyer> mwe no the unzipped it 36k
[10:19] <deefzi> joshi, where's all the pr0n?! :I
[10:19] <blackgibson> Hello all
[10:20] <pestilence> joshi: 10g for each should be fine.
[10:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: then find one on google that has the right size
[10:20] <deefzi> joshi, don't tell me you have life, have you?
[10:20] <pestilence> joshi: although it will be a little tight on both ends
[10:20] <joshi> deefzy, In internet ofcourse :P
[10:20] <Dreamglider> i have 10gb for windows on a 400Gb disk
[10:20] <saif> Dr_Willis, i have installed it. its saying for rebot the pc let me re-start
[10:20] <saif> i have 40gb hard disk, 30 gb for windows and 10gb for ubuntu
[10:20] <saif> ;)
[10:20] <Hollowman> could someone help me find a good php editing program?
[10:21] <Dreamglider> and a seperate disk for Ubunto (30Gb) on this pc
[10:21] <Hollowman> somethign that highlights code and stuff like that?
[10:21] <ill0gical0ne> anyone know how to enable spdif output?
[10:21] <pestilence> Hollowman: vim ? :-D
[10:21] <mwe> Dreamglider: what are using all the space for?
[10:21] <LaserJock> johnl: ok, I'm here
[10:21] <Dreamglider> media storage
[10:21] <johnl> heh, ask away.
[10:21] <Dreamglider> moste of it
[10:21] <Hollowman> i checked the package manager, and it said it was already isntalled
[10:21] <Hollowman> where do i find it?
[10:21] <johnl> let everyone hear it
[10:22] <pramz> Linux frozen 2.6.12-10-686 #1 Thu Dec 22 11:55:07 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[10:22] <pestilence> Hollowman: vim?  it's a command-line editor.  you could also try vim-gtk if you like gui's
[10:22] <pramz> oops
[10:22] <LaserJock> johnl: ok, I only have a terminal open right now and my free -m output says 400 MB of memory (out of 512)
[10:22] <Dreamglider> i have two 400Gb one Gb250 and one 30Gb
[10:22] <kelm> hello everybody
[10:22] <nomar> hello ^^
[10:23] <LaserJock> johnl: my computer seems to be using a lot of swap and firefox has been freezing a lot when I try to add a bookmark
[10:23] <anjin_> I'm trying to burn a kvcd image (bin and cue files) using gnomebaker and the default nautilus burner... they kep failing.  Any suggestions? (just installed Ubuntu Friday.. still very new to linux)
[10:23] <Hollowman> ok i installed vim-gtk (or whatever it was) now where do i start it?
[10:23] <LaserJock> johnl: and synaptic or building packages (basically anything CPU or IO intensive) seems to drag my system a lot
[10:23] <FCN-Eki> How can I install .run applications?
[10:23] <johnl> LaserJock, Ubuntu breezy?
[10:24] <LaserJock> johnl: no dapper
[10:24] <Coolstuff> okay when I go to install ubuntu here, can I select which HDD to install it on? as I dont want my windows one wiped
[10:24] <johnl> hrm.
[10:24] <johnl> have you tried a reboot? (silly I know, but it gives us some clues)
[10:24] <pestilence> Coolstuff: yes.
[10:24] <Xenguy> Hollowman: you can do Alt-F2 to launch particular apps
[10:24] <leluiahkiani> hi does anyone know how to make an external drive not read only?
[10:24] <LaserJock> johnl: reboot seems to help but then the memory usage keeps going up until after a few days it is hard to use
[10:24] <erUSUL> FCN-Eki, chmod +x file.run; sudo file.run
[10:24] <Coolstuff> do I have to do advanced installation
[10:24] <Hollowman> where is it at?
[10:24] <LaserJock> johnl: seems like a mem leak of some kind to me
[10:24] <Coolstuff> or will it be in teh defiult one
[10:24] <Coolstuff> default*
[10:25] <anjin_> anyone?
[10:25] <kelm> its a good day today
[10:25] <mcdenyer> mwe ok i have steam
[10:25] <mwe> anjin_: use k3b
[10:25] <LaserJock> johnl: but it started doing this to me a few weeks ago so I wonder if it was one of the kernel upgrades
[10:25] <mcdenyer> mwe its in my desktop in a folder called downloads
[10:25] <Xenguy> Hollowman: typically /usr/bin/gvim
[10:25] <malefestra> hey guys, how can i configure my x server in the command line?
[10:25] <mcdenyer> mwe to install it do i just type wine steaminstall.exE?
[10:25] <mwe> mcdenyer: and the correct dll files are in place?
[10:25] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah
[10:25] <anjin_> can that be used in gnome?
[10:25] <malefestra> i had my computer running fine on a 15" compaq monitor, but i just switched to a 17" micron monitor
[10:25] <malefestra> and now my x server won't start up
[10:26] <mcdenyer> mwe i have to get the shlwapi later
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: and the correct sized one too?
[10:26] <Xenguy> malefestra: what do you need to configure?
[10:26] <mcdenyer> mwe it hard to find a free dll
[10:26] <kelm> how can i unlock numdefil on thinkpad
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: you can't instal without it
[10:26] <Xenguy> malefestra: oh
[10:26] <johnl> LaserJock, how are you measuring memory usage?
[10:26] <mcdenyer> mwe i have to join a forum and request it lol
[10:26] <mcdenyer> mwe sucks\
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: why
[10:26] <erUSUL> malefestra, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <LaserJock> johnl: well, free -m and top
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: what about good
[10:26] <Hollowman> do you know of a program that does color highlighting and stff?
[10:26] <thoreauputic> malefestra:  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <Hollowman> stuff*
[10:26] <mcdenyer> mwe good?
[10:26] <malefestra> thanks guys
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: goodle
[10:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: google dammit
[10:27] <johnl> LaserJock, is it slow now?  can you paste the output from free -m?
[10:27] <Xenguy> malefestra: back up /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then run 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg' is one way
[10:27] <ssam> Hollowman, do you mean syntax highlighting for code
[10:27] <johnl> measuring free memory is notoriously difficult
[10:27] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah i googled it
[10:27] <nero> hey guys how do i change the read only status of a drive?
[10:28] <Hollowman> ssam yes
[10:28] <mwe> mcdenyer: do you have windows?
[10:28] <ssam> Hollowman, gedit can do it
[10:28] <mwe> mcdenyer: maybe you can find it there and copy it over
[10:29] <ssam> Hollowman, infact most linux text editors can for lots of languages
[10:29] <LaserJock> johnl: right now it seems ok, I have only a termianl open and here is the free -m output http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7224
[10:29] <erUSUL> !tell nero about windowsdrives
[10:29] <Hollowman> they automatically colorcode it?
[10:29] <Hollowman> cause in everything i've tried so far, it hasn't
[10:29] <erUSUL> !tell nero about ntfs
[10:29] <kelm> who have thinkpad laptop?
[10:29] <magical_trevsky> I do
[10:29] <LaserJock> johnl: but when I have firefox and thunderbird open my memory get's eaten up and pretty soon I have nothing free
[10:29] <malefestra> Xenguy - that doesn't seem to work.
[10:30] <kelm> magical?
[10:30] <ssam> Hollowman, yes, once they have worked out what it is (sometimes you need to save the file so it get a filename extention eg html)
[10:30] <magical_trevsky> what's up?
[10:30] <Hollowman> ah
[10:30] <malefestra> it says "Unable to find a valid framebuffer device"
[10:30] <Hollowman> i see
[10:30] <minimec> LaserJock: How many RAm do you have?
[10:30] <Hollowman> now that i save it
[10:30] <kelm> my numlock is blocked
[10:30] <LaserJock> minimec: 512 MB
[10:30] <ssam> Hollowman, gedit has veiw -> highlight mode
[10:31] <johnl> close firefox and thunderbird and paste me a new free -m
[10:31] <kelm> i have try
[10:31] <kelm> but nothing
[10:31] <marvel> has anyone install ubuntu on an iBook?
[10:31] <mwe> mcdenyer:
[10:31] <kelm> thinkpad t23
[10:31] <mwe> mcdenyer: I found it for you
[10:31] <thoreauputic> marvel: yes
[10:31] <kelm> have you an idea?
[10:31] <Xenguy> malefestra: did you get any errors while re-configuring?
[10:31] <ssam> marvel, ive installed it on a powerbook
[10:31] <topyli> marvel: i installed ubuntu on a friend's ibook
[10:31] <LaserJock> johnl: I just don't see any reason why just having a terminal open I should have 400MB used
[10:31] <LaserJock> johnl: but it does take a few days to get that way
[10:32] <johnl> though you said you had firefox and thunderbird open?
[10:32] <marvel> thoreaputic: did you have any problems?
[10:32] <mwe> mcdenyer: ping
[10:32] <johnl> ah no, I see.  I misread
[10:32] <thoreauputic> marvel: no - I have a dual boot with Os-X as well
[10:32] <malefestra> Xenguy - nevermind, got it.
[10:32] <malefestra> Redid it and set the kernel framebuffer option to no
[10:32] <ill0gical0ne> anyone know how to enable spdif output?
[10:32] <malefestra> Booted right up.  Thanks for your help. :)
[10:33] <LaserJock> johnl: I just opened up firefox and it is just sitting there and I can see the mem usage go up 1MB at a time
[10:33] <thoreauputic> marvel: I used the mac disk utility on the install CCs to divide the drive etc
[10:33] <thoreauputic> *Cd
[10:33] <bosco> 0000:00:0b.0 networkcontroller: linksys admtek adm 8211 802.11b wirelessinterface "rev 11"
[10:33] <johnl> LaserJock, I think the problem is that so much is changing with dapper, it'd be difficult to pinpoint what was causing the problem exactly.
[10:33] <LaserJock> johnl: exactly
[10:33] <minimec> LaserJock: The linux machine cares about your memory. x is taking a lot of it (even to much), but a lot of the RAM is cache, that would be on the /swap partition. I am sure, that your swap is used ablut 0.2 %
[10:33] <johnl> LaserJock,  can you roll back to an older dapper kernel?
[10:34] <marvel> I need to save a iMovie - can I view this movie from Ubuntu
[10:34] <LaserJock> minimec: no 400MB is - cache and buffers
[10:34] <mwe> marvel: if you have the codec
[10:34] <minimec> oups. What are you wirking on???
[10:34] <marvel> what is codec?
[10:34] <minimec> LaserJock: oups. What are you working on???
[10:35] <SldSnake> codec is a thingie that lets the computer show the video
[10:35] <topyli> marvel: i had no problems installing ubuntu on it. she did have all kinds of problems because almost nothing is supported on ppc linux :)
[10:35] <SldSnake> 666 people...
[10:35] <lightdifference> woo...666 members
[10:35] <lightdifference> haha
[10:35] <SldSnake> aw
[10:35] <SldSnake> we were close to the lord for a while
[10:35] <LaserJock> minimec: what do you mean?
[10:35] <lightdifference> anyone take a screenshot? :P
[10:36] <mwe> mcdenyer: hey
[10:36] <thoreauputic> topyli: almost nothing? The only unsupported stuff I can see here is the internal modem and Airport Extreme
[10:36] <minimec> LaserJock: Did you restart gdm once?
[10:36] <marvel> thank you for your help
[10:36] <lightdifference> someone take a screenshot!
[10:36] <ssam> thoreauputic, airport extreme will work in dapper
[10:36] <LaserJock> minimec: haven't tried that just yet to see what it would do
[10:37] <topyli> thoreauputic: yeah well, and the multimedia stuff. it works well otherwise
[10:37] <thoreauputic> topyli: granted java and flash are not easily fixed, but I don't need them anyway :)
[10:37] <marvel> how do I take a screenshot?
[10:37] <raimo> can someone help me... i just tried to install ubuntu and the installation destroyed my old partition
[10:37] <lightdifference> Apple-Shift-3.
[10:37] <lightdifference> or Print Screen.
[10:37] <thoreauputic> topyli: right - vlc handles most stuff OK (except windows codecs of course)
[10:37] <topyli> of course :)
[10:38] <topyli> no matter, java was her biggest problem
[10:38] <thoreauputic> ssam: I saw where airport extreme drivers are now available - that will be nice :)
[10:38] <raimo> i tried to resize the old partition, it worked on something for a while and then said that it's not possible because of some windows dynamic disk blablabla
[10:39] <marvel> how do I send the captured screenshot?
[10:39] <minimec> Do ALT-CTRL-F1 login and do 'sudo killall gdm' and them 'gdm&& exit'. Let's see. Youre Chat-Software will die logicly :-)
[10:39] <mwe> what about just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:39] <topyli> raimo: that really isn't a question. or a sentence even. what are you trying to do?
[10:39] <Xenguy> malefestra: great
[10:39] <minimec> LaserJock: Do ALT-CTRL-F1 login and do 'sudo killall gdm' and them 'sudo gdm&& exit'. Let's see. Youre Chat-Software will die logicly :-)
[10:40] <mwe> what about just sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[10:40] <topyli> raimo: so you have windows and want to keep it, and install ubuntu dual-boot?
[10:40] <Crell42> So I'm trying to bind my eth0 to multiple IPs.  I can add a second IP on the command line with ifconfig eth0:1 new.ip.goes.here, but I want to have it persist past a reboot.
[10:41] <raimo> topyli: yeah... but when i did what i just explained, my old partition got lost
[10:41] <raimo> topyli: windows says it's not formatted
[10:41] <Crell42> According to man interfaces, I should be able to just add a few lines to /etc/network/interfaces, but when I do what the man page says, /etc/init.d/networking restart fails with no log error messages.
[10:41] <LaserJock> minimec: chat will be ok, I think (thanks to screen+irssi)
[10:41] <topyli> raimo: windows won't boot?
[10:41] <minimec> mwe: I like to kill, and I am not sure, if gdm does a 'warm' restart
[10:41] <minimec> LaserJock: Yep.
[10:42] <Drac[Server] > Mmm... Ubuntu is finally setting up on my laptop. :D
[10:42] <raimo> topyli: it was my secondary drive so luckily that's not the case
[10:42] <Crell42> Any suggestions?
[10:42] <mwe> minimec: it kills the old gdm process and starts a new one
[10:42] <Drac[Server] > I just hope I'll be able to get it to see and use my PCMCIA ethernet controller...
[10:43] <topyli> raimo: so that part is ok. what does it say is not formatted?
[10:43] <minimec> mwe: So you're right :-)
[10:43] <blouf> hi everybody
[10:43] <rabbit> Scanner Question:    Does anyone know how I can get the "genesys" backend for my Canon Scanner??
[10:43] <blouf> i got a problem to compile bitchx on ubuntu ...
[10:43] <Drac[Server] > Would anyone have experience with Ubuntu on a laptop? If so, did you have any issues with PCMCIA devices?
[10:43] <thoreauputic> !info bitchx
[10:43] <ubotu> bitchx: (Advanced Internet Relay Chat client), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1:1.1-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1466 kB, Installed size: 6484 kB
[10:43] <raimo> topyli: windows says that drive D: isn't formatted, and that's the drive i tried to resize when i was trying to install ubuntu
[10:44] <triple5> anybody experience with a network-admin that freezes the complete desktop (have to reboot with a hard power out!)
[10:44] <thoreauputic> blouf: no need to compile
[10:44] <blouf> thoreauputic : i can find the package with synaptic
[10:44] <blouf> i can't
[10:44] <blouf> surry
[10:44] <topyli> raimo: do you have data on D: ?
[10:44] <raimo> yes
[10:44] <thoreauputic> it's in universe, blouf
[10:44] <mcdenyer> does anyone have shlwapi.dll i can have?
[10:44] <thoreauputic> !tell blouf about repos
[10:45] <mwe> minimec: /etc/init.d/gdm reload just sends SIGUSR1 though
[10:45] <topyli> raimo: hrmpf. so you were trying to resize it and install ubuntu on the newly-freed space?
[10:45] <blouf> thoreauputic, i try to download the irciipana on the official website, and compiling it, but there is a lot of errors ..
[10:45] <minimec> mwe: MY 'warmstart' ;-)
[10:45] <trappist> Crell42: http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/reference/ch-gateway.en.html <-- search for 'virtual'
[10:46] <ill0gical0ne> anyone know how to get to the alsa terminal mixer?
[10:46] <thoreauputic> blouf: don't bother - just enable universe and install - see ubotu 's /msg to you
[10:46] <Crell42> Ah ha1
[10:46] <raimo> topyli: yeah, but then it failed because of some windows dynamic disk thing and threw me back to where i was
[10:46] <Crell42> Merci.  *goes to read*
[10:46] <mcdenyer> i need a copy of shlwapi.dll
[10:46] <blouf> thoreauputic,  ok so thanks u
[10:46] <topyli> raimo: i'll have to ask at this point: do you make backups regularly? :-\
[10:47] <topyli> not all is lost necessarily though
[10:47] <Crell42> trappist: Does the DHCP address need to be the alias, or can it be the other way around?
[10:47] <redguy> mcdenyer: is a simple google search too much work for you? http://www.google.com/search?hl=pl&client=safari&rls=en-us&q=shlwapi.dll&btnG=Szukaj&lr=
[10:47] <raimo> :/
[10:47] <topyli> ok, who knows the installer? i'm outa sight
[10:47] <mwe> mcdenyer:
[10:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: http://www.dll-downloads.com/downloadnow.asp?mirror=2
[10:47] <thoreauputic> ill0gical0ne: just type  alsamixer
[10:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: that's the correct one
[10:48] <topyli> raimo: don't worry. it's probably readable on linux
[10:48] <johnl> so are we to use launchpad.net for dapper bug reports now then?
[10:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: at least it's larger than 60k
[10:48] <mcdenyer> reguy i need one that above 60 k nd the oneso n goog le cost money
[10:48] <johnl> I can't seem to find up to date linux-image package information on launchpad for dapper
[10:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: http://www.dll-downloads.com/downloadnow.asp?mirror=2
[10:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: that's the correct one
[10:48] <mcdenyer> mwe ok ty vm
[10:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: at least it's larger than 60k
[10:48] <trappist> Crell42: there's a dependency there, so you might have an issue bringing up a real device whose virtual device isn't up if it's the other way around, but I dunno - I've never done this
[10:49] <blouf> thoreauputic, how must i enable universe ?
[10:49] <trappist> !tell blouf about universe
[10:49] <thoreauputic> !tell blouf about repositories
[10:50] <topyli> raimo: the worst that could have happened is that the installer resized the parition and screwed up the partition table. in any case, the data is there
[10:50] <thoreauputic> blouf: read those links
[10:50] <raimo> topyli: yeah so i thought
[10:50] <topyli> raimo: try #ubuntu-fi too
[10:51] <topyli> less busy :)
[10:51] <Seveas> raimo, 'sup? topyli just told us you were getting desperate...
[10:51] <thoreauputic> blouf: if you didn't get ubotu 's messages, you are not registered
[10:51] <ompaul> thoreauputic, msg for u
[10:52] <rabbit> Scanner Question:    Does anyone know how I can get the "genesys" backend for my Canon Scanner??
[10:52] <thoreauputic> ompaul:  ?
[10:52] <topyli> raimo: ok, the ghostbusters are here :)
[10:52] <raimo> Seveas: yeah something like that...
[10:52] <csb> are there any true booleans in perl? for instance, is "$TheValue = True" a valid statement?
[10:52] <Coolstuff> okay guys
[10:52] <Coolstuff> I need help
[10:52] <Coolstuff> :P
[10:53] <Coolstuff> Im trying to install ubuntu on D drive
[10:53] <raimo> i got this http://www.cgsecurity.org/index.html?testdisk.html
[10:53] <Coolstuff> I dont want to touch C Drive as windows is on there
[10:53] <Coolstuff> how do I make sure that I dont format C and only D
[10:53] <mcdenyer> mwe how did u get to that file i cant find it and that url u sent me wont work
[10:53] <thoreauputic> blouf: read ubotu below
[10:53] <raimo> now i'm just wondering if i dare to say yes to "Write partition structure to disk?"
[10:53] <thoreauputic> !repos
[10:53] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[10:53] <Coolstuff> I cant really figure it out when I was in teh installation before
[10:53] <Crell42> Hm.  I can't get the aliased interface to come up, either directin.
[10:53] <redguy> csb: wait a sec
[10:53] <ompaul> !register
[10:53] <ubotu> hmm... register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[10:53] <mwe> mcdenyer: I went here http://www.dll-downloads.com/hosts.asp?shlwapi.zip used the second mirror
[10:54] <trappist> csb: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boolean_datatype#Perl
[10:54] <thoreauputic> blouf: and get your nick registered - /msg nickserv register <password>
[10:54] <Coolstuff> hellooo :D
[10:54] <topyli> Coolstuff: whatever windows thinks is c: is /dev/hda1 in linux
[10:54] <Coolstuff> ah
[10:54] <Coolstuff> really?
[10:54] <Coolstuff> so how do I unmount that
[10:54] <Seveas> topyli, not neccessarily... :)
[10:54] <Coolstuff> so that it doesnt get formatted
[10:54] <Coolstuff> I took it as the one with boot "ON" as the C:
[10:55] <topyli> Seveas: yeah well, that was the case when i was playing with windows 95/98. it might be smarter now :)
[10:55] <Coolstuff> and D: was the one with boot "OFF"
[10:55] <topyli> or maybe you can fool it
[10:55] <Coolstuff> but anyway how do I unmount a drive
[10:55] <Coolstuff> so that it doesnt get formatted
[10:55] <Seveas> topyli, s/smarter/crazier/
[10:55] <redguy> csb: no true boolean type in perl, in scalar context, 0, "" and undef is false, everything else is true
[10:55] <Dr_Willis> unmounting a drive wont keep it from getting formated.
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> you normally unmount a drive - befor formating/fdisking it.
[10:56] <Coolstuff> well
[10:56] <topyli> raimo: i'm not sure about that disk. could be good, but i've never heard of it
[10:56] <Coolstuff> how do I make sure it doesnt get formatted
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> pay attention to the installer. :P and dont format it.
[10:57] <Coolstuff> ?
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> or remove the power conector to the hd..
[10:57] <Coolstuff> laptop
[10:57] <Coolstuff> :(
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> then i guess you be very carefull
[10:57] <Coolstuff> yeah
[10:57] <poningru> Coolstuff: what are you trying to do?
[10:57] <topyli> raimo: what i'd say is, boot to linux (in one way or another, a live cd maybe) and run linux fdisk to see what it thinks you have there
[10:57] <Coolstuff> im trying to install ubuntu on my laptops D drive
[10:57] <redguy> csb: hrm, undef might produce undef actually...
[10:57] <poningru> dude if its a laptop just remove that hd
[10:57] <Coolstuff> what?
[10:57] <Coolstuff> lol
[10:57] <poningru> laptops allow for easy removal of hds
[10:57] <Coolstuff> start screwing it appart?
[10:57] <Coolstuff> :P
[10:58] <Coolstuff> apart*
[10:58] <poningru> well yeah
[10:58] <poningru> what laptop do you have?
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> the installer can resize the ntfs partitions
[10:58] <Coolstuff> Sony Vaio
[10:58] <poningru> yeah they allow for easy removal
[10:58] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[10:58] <poningru> trust me
[10:58] <mcdenyer> mwe i have a q
[10:58] <Coolstuff> but surelly theres an easier way
[10:58] <ultime> hi
[10:58] <mcdenyer> mwe im trying to figure out the whole filesystem
[10:58] <torpedo|dog> I didn't think laptops usually had two hard drives.
[10:58] <ultime> http://www.goatse.ca/
[10:58] <poningru> Coolstuff: just be carefull?
[10:58] <Coolstuff> I dont want ubuntu to touch "C"
[10:58] <mcdenyer> mwe when u first open temrinal where are you?
[10:58] <poningru> torpedo|dog: many do
[10:58] <Coolstuff> and only go for D
[10:58] <mwe> Coolstuff: that's not needed at all
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> torpedo|dog,  some of the new top end ones do.
[10:58] <Coolstuff> mwe: ?
[10:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: your homedir
[10:59] <thechitowncubs> Is there any way I can see how much space a directory and everything in it is taking up?
[10:59] <mcdenyer> mwe ok and how do you change where uare
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Coolstuff,  the useing fdisk - delete the d: partition
[10:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: type "pwd" to see where you are
[10:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: cd
[10:59] <Coolstuff> fdisk?
[10:59] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs:  du -h
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Coolstuff,  you want D to be gone. "unallocated" space on the HD
[10:59] <thechitowncubs> thoreauputic, thanks ill try it
[10:59] <Coolstuff> yeah
[10:59] <Coolstuff> so that I can get ubuntu on it
[10:59] <Dr_Willis> Coolstuff,  use windows drive manager tool. or whatever tool you want
[10:59] <mwe> Coolstuff: I mean removing the drive not needed at all
[10:59] <poningru> thechitowncubs: make sure you cd into that dir
[10:59] <thechitowncubs> ya
[10:59] <mcdenyer> mwe ok what does cd do?
[11:00] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs:  du -sh if you only want the total
[11:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: changes working directory
[11:00] <thechitowncubs> ok
[11:00] <Coolstuff> the installer just confused me as I didnt know how to make it not touch the "C" drive
[11:00] <mcdenyer> mwe it takes u back to your home?
[11:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: like cd / will put you in the root dir
[11:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: not if you type a path
[11:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: ls. then cd and the name of some folder
[11:00] <torpedo|dog> I'm having a problem resizing a partition, incidentally.
[11:00] <purpleheart_USMC> Does anyone here use a USB keyboard?  Mine doesn't seem to work...
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Coolstuff,  it has a 'use unallocated drive space' option I do belive.
[11:01] <mcdenyer> mwe ok lets say i want to get into my dowloads folder which is on my desktop
[11:01] <mcdenyer> mwe what wouldi  type?
[11:01] <thechitowncubs> does anyone know how much space a "server" install takes up?
[11:01] <Coolstuff> DR Willis: ?
[11:01] <gnomefreak> cd /dir/folder/file
[11:01] <Coolstuff> ahhh
[11:01] <Coolstuff> yeah
[11:01] <Coolstuff> I remember that opetion
[11:01] <Coolstuff> so what will that do?
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> Coolstuff,  :P
[11:01] <gnomefreak> thechitowncubs, i wanna say like 500-700mb
[11:01] <Dr_Willis> it tells ubunto to install to the unallocated section of the hd.
[11:01] <thoreauputic> thechitowncubs: not much - a few hundred MB (forget exactly)
[11:02] <Coolstuff> ok but I dont want windows/ubuntu overlapping
[11:02] <Coolstuff> :P
[11:02] <gnomefreak> i read it this morning but that was half a day ago :(
[11:02] <thechitowncubs> Alright, because i just looked at how much freespace I had and it blew me away to find that i only had like 500mb left after a gallery, gnump3d, samba, and cups configuration
[11:02] <thechitowncubs> i have a feeling its the gallery
[11:02] <mcdenyer> mwe i tried cd /desktop/downloads and it didnt owrk
[11:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: cd desktop/downloads. it's case sensitive though
[11:03] <Crell42> thechitowncubs: I'm running one now.  I'd say 2 GB should give you plenty of elbow room, depending on your data needs.
[11:03] <thoreauputic> mcdenyer: capital D for Desktop
[11:03] <pudland> were do I find the updated repos for hoary
[11:03] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[11:03] <poningru> mcdenyer: dude its Desktop
[11:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to cap the names as need
[11:03] <gnomefreak> cd Desktop always :)
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> Crell42, ya i have a 8.5gb hard drive
[11:03] <Crell42> Server space is determined by the data you're serving, not the OS.
[11:03] <lightbright> is there any way to wipe clean empty space that is not being used on the hard drive?
[11:03] <Crell42> That's more than enough for a playing-with sever.
[11:03] <thechitowncubs> I know
[11:03] <lightbright> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[11:03] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, heres how to cd to your home dir "cd" lol
[11:04] <thechitowncubs> I'm EXTREMELY happy how its been performing.
[11:04] <mcdenyer> mwe sweet i am now installing steam
[11:04] <thechitowncubs> but this is weird...
[11:04] <Blippe> how do i kill and restart the soundserver? (ie which process is it?)
[11:04] <mwe> mcdenyer: good
[11:04] <lightbright> Blippe: reboot
[11:04] <gnomefreak> lightbright, ok if its empty why do you want to wipe it clean?
[11:04] <topyli> Blippe: by default, you're running esd
[11:04] <Coolstuff> hmmmm
[11:04] <Coolstuff> Im still lost
[11:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: to clean data that was there before I deleted
[11:04] <Coolstuff> :(
[11:04] <mwe> mcdenyer: with cd you can type half the name then tab to complete it. like cd Des<tab>
[11:04] <lightbright> gnomefreak: any ideas?
[11:04] <gnomefreak> gparted should format any space :)
[11:05] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm ok
[11:05] <mcdenyer> mwe where hsouldi install steam to?
[11:05] <gnomefreak> lightbright, your too paranoid noone is gonna read it
[11:05] <raimo> topyli: ok... i managed to recover the file system \o/
[11:05] <mcdenyer> mwe is shows windows directories
[11:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: default location I guess
[11:05] <torpedo|dog> gnomefreak, I'm having a problem with that exact program ;)
[11:05] <mcdenyer> mwe well the default is c/programfiles
[11:05] <gnomefreak> torpedo|dog, gparted?
[11:05] <topyli> raimo: with this disk?
[11:05] <mcdenyer> mwe like windows
[11:05] <torpedo|dog> indeed.
[11:05] <gnomefreak> lol so did i lol
[11:05] <torpedo|dog> It's refusing to resize my NTFS partition.
[11:05] <lightbright> gnomefreak: my question for you was not about my psychological functioning!  now please, do you have a direct answer for me , or not?
[11:06] <raimo> topyli: with TestDisk yeah
[11:06] <topyli> \o/
[11:06] <lightbright> gnomefreak: is there any way to wipe clean empty space that is not being used on the hard drive? yes or no?
[11:06] <Blippe> lightbright, there must be some other way, seems funny i have to rebott every time the left sound dissappears (third time now)
[11:06] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, its C:/Program Files
[11:06] <lightbright> Blippe: no other way
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> torpedo|dog,  you may want to defrag and scandisk the ntfs parttion befor resizeing it.
[11:06] <purpleheart_USMC> Do USB keyboards work in ubuntu???
[11:06] <robotgeek> purpleheart_USMC: yes
[11:06] <poningru> purpleheart_USMC: yes most of them
[11:06] <Dr_Willis> purpleheart_USMC,  mine works fine
[11:06] <torpedo|dog> Well, I've defragged 5 times or so today.
[11:06] <blouf> thoreauputic,  it's ok ... thanks u
[11:06] <lightbright> Blippe: if you want another way, you need to use Debian
[11:06] <mcdenyer> gnomfreak will it create that foldwer then
[11:06] <gnomefreak> lightbright, there is a way to do anything you want just have to find the right program/person
[11:06] <thechitowncubs> How hard is it to set up an FTP server with seperate accounts that direct to their respective folders?
[11:06] <thoreauputic> lightbright: rubbish
[11:06] <Blippe> lightbright, what does debian have then?
[11:07] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak becuase im running ubuntu not windows lol
[11:07] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, i dont know im on windows right now
[11:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so how do I wipe empty space?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> lol
[11:07] <purpleheart_USMC> Do any of you have the glowing keyboards?  The ones that light up with LED's?
[11:07] <gnomefreak> !gparted
[11:07] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you smoking crack?
[11:07] <poningru> glowing?
[11:07] <lightbright> thoreauputic: dont speak about your mother like that
[11:07] <Dr_Willis> purpleheart_USMC,  several of them
[11:07] <gnomefreak> lightbright, ask someone that knows
[11:07] <katie^> how to rip dvd onto pc
[11:07] <katie^> quickly
[11:07] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok thanks anyway
[11:07] <purpleheart_USMC> Dr_Willis: k.  thanks
[11:07] <chuckman78> Hi, people, good afternoon.
[11:07] <poningru> lightbright: whats wrong?
[11:07] <thoreauputic> lightbright: if you can do it in debian you can do it in ubuntu
[11:07] <thechitowncubs> Hey chuckman78
[11:07] <thoreauputic> lightbright: don't spread misinformation
[11:08] <ompaul> lightbright, want to keep quite for a while, your beginning to look silly
[11:08] <z3r0_d> is there a trick to getting direct rendering that doesn't crash with a rage 128?
[11:08] <chuckman78> I am new on Ubuntu, I just installed my 5.10 system...
[11:08] <topyli> Blippe: just stop rebooting
[11:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: all you had to say was you have no idea, instead of giving me a personal psycholigical diagnoses for which you are not qualfied to make :)
[11:08] <Blippe> thoreauputic, so you know a way to restart the soundserver (alsa)?
[11:08] <gnomefreak> lightbright, you want to find something use GOOGLE
[11:08] <poningru> lightbright: this is not #debian
[11:08] <lightbright> thoreauputic lightbright: if you can do it in debian you can do it in ubuntu <--- not always true, and aspoken by ignorance
[11:08] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok ok, you dont always have to be so rude each day
[11:08] <topyli> Blippe: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[11:08] <poningru> lightbright: please do not abuse people here
[11:08] <z3r0_d> ubuntuforums.org is down?
[11:09] <blouf> how must i do to switch to the console interface instead of the graphical one (sorry for my lame english)
[11:09] <Crell42> Can you bind eth0 to multiple IP addresses consistently in Ubuntu, then? :-)
[11:09] <katie^> ellllllllllllllllllo
[11:09] <topyli> hehe
[11:09] <gnomefreak> lightbright, i was being nice
[11:09] <chuckman78> I am on my windows session cause I cannot get my modem on Ubuntu 5.10 to work...
[11:09] <thoreauputic> Blippe:  sudo /etc/init.d/alsa restart| reload etc
[11:09] <Blippe> "The 'restart' method is deprecated and will be removed." :D
[11:09] <topyli> hi katie^
[11:09] <NatureTM> when I bridge my atheros card with ethernet to make wireless AP, the AP works fine, but I lose internet access on the host pc
[11:09] <poningru> blouf: ctrl+alt+f1
[11:09] <thechitowncubs> katie^, what do you need
[11:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: every day I notice you get rude to people when you dont have an answer or solution for them!  ego stops you simply saying "sorry, I dont know about that", instead you get nasty and tell them "USE GOOGLE"
[11:09] <katie^> rip a dvd ?
[11:09] <katie^> hiya topyli
[11:09] <lightbright> gnomefreak: i doesnt bother me, i dont take it personally!  I notice you do it with everyone
[11:09] <thoreauputic> lightbright: ignorance is something you probably shouldn't accuse others of, given your remarks
[11:10] <blouf> poningru, ok .. so easy ... and to use gnome instead of metacity ?
[11:10] <lightbright> poningru: are you an OP here?
[11:10] <NatureTM> man I cannot find this answer anywhere
[11:10] <poningru> blouf: um gnome is not a wm its a desktop
[11:10] <gnomefreak> lightbright, the first thing that should come to people minds is google seeing as this is not a #hd channel go to one that will answer its not a ubuntu question go to #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:10] <mcdenyer> mwe lol i justy installed steam to my c drive but i dont know where that even is
[11:10] <topyli> katie^: what's your linux problem for the day? :)
[11:10] <poningru> lightbright: does not matter
[11:10] <lightbright> thoreauputic: ok that answers that :)
[11:10] <katie^> lol, it's not so much a problem
[11:10] <gnomefreak> no but thoreauputic is
[11:11] <katie^> just wanna know how to rip a dvd
[11:11] <chuckman78> Could anybody help me on setting up my Intel 537ep modem on Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:11] <lightbright> chuckman78: im using a modem
[11:11] <thechitowncubs> katie^, try thoggen
[11:11] <lightbright> chuckman78: the first thing you need to run is pppconfig
[11:11] <poningru> !metacity
[11:11] <mcdenyer> mwe and i need to know where it is so i can run steam
[11:11] <ubotu> poningru: I haven't a clue
[11:11] <lightbright> chuckman78: have you run pppconfig yet?
[11:11] <katie^> couldn't find package
[11:11] <chuckman78> lightbright: but my system doesnt recognize my modem
[11:12] <lightbright> chuckman78: dont worry about that for now
[11:12] <gnomefreak> katie^, kde or gnome?
[11:12] <katie^> gnoem
[11:12] <NatureTM> man, I'm about to start begging...
[11:12] <lightbright> chuckman78: have you rebooted with the modem turned on?
[11:12] <thechitowncubs> katie^, ubotu tell katie^ about restricted formats
[11:12] <gnomefreak> katie^, gnomebaker is pretty good
[11:12] <ompaul> lightbright, Shut Up this is not #windows
[11:12] <thechitowncubs> woops
[11:12] <chuckman78> lightbright: yes, it is internal so it is sort of always on
[11:12] <NatureTM> well, is there a madwifi irc channel?
[11:12] <lightbright> chuckman78: ok cool, now run pppconfig
[11:12] <thechitowncubs> !restrictedformats
[11:12] <ubotu> hmm... restrictedformats is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:12] <zytrax> helo everybody!
[11:12] <lysis_> what's going on guys?
[11:12] <TK4222> can anyone help me figure out why: when this command is run in a S55local file that i add via update-rc.d it doesnt add the drive? /bin/mount -t smbfs -o guest //192.168.0.100/downloads /mnt/wdownloads/
[11:12] <redguy> !info dvdrip
[11:12] <ubotu> dvdrip: (perl front end for transcode), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 1:0.52.5-0.0 (breezy), Packaged size: 365 kB, Installed size: 1656 kB
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> follow that guide katie^
[11:13] <lightbright> chuckman78: tell me when pppconfig is loaded
[11:13] <gnomefreak> she said cd?
[11:13] <katie^> i didn't get a guide
[11:13] <ompaul> lightbright, rebooting is not what any GNU/linux user would ever suggest
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> ubotu, tell katie^ !restrictedformats
[11:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to do all the rest of the tutorial
[11:13] <chuckman78> lightbright: well i will have to reboot cause i have a dual boot system
[11:13] <katie^> nope
[11:13] <zytrax> I am a real newbye
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> ubotu, tell katie^ about !restrictedformats
[11:13] <thoreauputic> lightbright: do please stop telling people to reboot thx bye
[11:13] <gnomefreak> oops she said dvd :(
[11:13] <lightbright> chuckman78: ah I see ok
[11:13] <Crell42> Unbelieveable...
[11:13] <lysis_> katie^ what are you trying to do?
[11:13] <mwe> mcdenyer:
[11:13] <lightbright> chuckman78: well take these notes
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> How do you do this.
[11:13] <thechitowncubs> lol
[11:13] <chuckman78> lightbright: ok
[11:13] <katie^> rip a dvd
[11:13] <zytrax> please anybody could give me some advise?
[11:13] <redguy> katie^: check out dvdrip, it's pretty nice
[11:14] <lightbright> thoreauputic: I never told anyone to reboot
[11:14] <katie^> ive tried :(
[11:14] <NatureTM> can I used a bridged connection for internet on my host pc?
[11:14] <ompaul> lightbright, byeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:14] <lysis_> katie^ you want to re-encode it from 9 to 4?
[11:14] <lightbright> thoreauputic: I asked if had booted with the modem on
[11:14] <redguy> and it's Perl !
[11:14] <katie^> will someone pm me their sources.list
[11:14] <TK4222> anyone anyone?
[11:14] <katie^> i think mine is broked.
[11:14] <thoreauputic> lightbright:  /laslog lightbright
[11:14] <peculiar> ok, just installed ubuntu...never used linux before. installation from the cd is done, booting from disk for the first time. I provide login and pword, and then have to write a command it seems...how do I get in to the "real thing" with a desktop and stuff?
[11:14] <thoreauputic> *lastlog
[11:14] <redguy> !tell katie^ about easysource
[11:14] <Blippe> katie^, try source-o-matic
[11:14] <lysis_> katie, i use the sources available on ubuntuforums.org  they have recommended sources there (search the forum)
[11:14] <lightbright> thoreauputic: im trying to help chuckman78 get his modem working on Ubuntu
[11:14] <thechitowncubs> Someone tell katie about restricted formats
[11:14] <lysis_> !easysource
[11:14] <Blippe> !ource-o-matic
[11:14] <ubotu> Blippe: I give up, what is it?
[11:14] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:14] <lightbright> ompaul: bye, see you another day
[11:15] <thoreauputic> lightbright: i know what you are trying to do
[11:15] <TK4222> peculiar, what do you mean a command?
[11:15] <peculiar> its like dos
[11:15] <lightbright> thoreauputic: because I have experience getting a modem working, so wanting to help chuckman78
[11:15] <zytrax> I need help to install rpm
[11:15] <peculiar> you have to type something
[11:15] <zytrax> please
[11:15] <chuckman78> lightbright: so which are the notes?
[11:15] <TK4222> peculiar, hmmm try "startx" without quotes
[11:15] <lightbright> chuckman78: ok
[11:15] <seashell11> is ubuntuforums down?
[11:15] <mcdenyer> i installed somehting using wine into c drive
[11:15] <poningru> zytrax: use alien
[11:15] <peculiar> doesnt work
[11:15] <poningru> !alien
[11:15] <mcdenyer> and now i cnat find c
[11:15] <ubotu> somebody said alien was a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:15] <lightbright> chuckman78: next time you boot into Ubuntu, run pppconfig
[11:15] <gnomefreak> seashell11, i had issues pulling it up this am
[11:15] <zytrax> alien?
[11:15] <zytrax> how?
[11:15] <chuckman78> lightbright: ok
[11:16] <TK4222> peculiar, are you sure you didnt miss a step..it automatically installs X windows...unless you installed the server version or something
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: and enter all your details into the screen
[11:16] <topyli> peculiar: you don't have a graphical interface at all?
[11:16] <poningru> zytrax: its availble through synaptic
[11:16] <gnomefreak> zytrax, read what ubotu pasted above
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: and tell it what port your modem uses etc
[11:16] <TK4222> can anyone help me figure out why: when this command is run in a S55local file that i add via update-rc.d it doesnt add the drive? /bin/mount -t smbfs -o guest //192.168.0.100/downloads /mnt/wdownloads/
[11:16] <poningru> !tell zytrax about alien
[11:16] <CV^> Hi
[11:16] <katie^> i accepted, but it's connecting
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: and leave it as "provider"
[11:16] <peculiar> no, I dont have a graphical interface
[11:16] <zytrax> how can I log as root?
[11:16] <redguy> peculiar: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:16] <tonyyarusso> zytrax, Why do you want to?
[11:16] <chuckman78> lightbright: which screen?
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: after "add user"
[11:16] <redguy> !tell zytrax about root
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: the pppconfig screen
[11:16] <chuckman78> lightbright: ok
[11:16] <CV^> Can anyone help me gain acces to my Ubuntu machine, from my Windows machine ? Plz msg me
[11:16] <poningru> zytrax: use sudo
[11:16] <lightbright> chuckman78: after everyhing is entered, then type "pon"
[11:17] <TK4222> CV^, just turn on remote desktop and download vnc for windows
[11:17] <chuckman78> lightbright: I will give it a try
[11:17] <lightbright> chuckman78:  and it will connect to internet IF you entered all your modem details etc correctly
[11:17] <CV^> so the build in remote in windows doesnt work ?
[11:17] <peculiar> redguy, it says xserver-xorg is broken or not fully installed
[11:17] <mcdenyer> has anyone here installed steam before?
[11:17] <seashell11> gnomefreak: so your back creating trouble again? lol I just now decided to come see what was happening at #ubuntu but yea ubuntuforums wont load for me
[11:17] <zytrax> this place is wonderful
[11:17] <zytrax> and you all are great!!
[11:17] <thechitowncubs> !tell katie^ about restrictedformats
[11:17] <lightbright> chuckman78: make sure you "add user" and at end SAVE
[11:17] <katie^> lol
[11:17] <CV^> TK4222 so the build in remote in windows doesnt work ?
[11:17] <TK4222> CV^, no you have to use vnc on windows to access the box...
[11:17] <katie^> feel better now?
[11:17] <lightbright> chuckman78: all the best
[11:17] <redguy> peculiar: hrm, no error messages during the install?
[11:17] <chuckman78> lightbright: thanks a lot sir!
[11:17] <CV^> TK4222 Ok
[11:17] <mcdenyer> ubotu tell me about ntfs
[11:17] <gnomefreak> i figured the link was shot since i dont use that forum much :(
[11:17] <poningru> katie^: what exactly are you trying to do?
[11:17] <ompaul> CV^, install putty.exe on your windows machine and you can ssh into it if your doing non visual stuff and use -C as the special option
[11:17] <katie^> rip a dvd
[11:17] <chuckman78> lightbright: i 'll come back later with my results
[11:17] <katie^> install dvdrip
[11:18] <peculiar> yes, thats true...after installing from cd....the rebooting started installing extra packages and that didnt work out for some reason....how do I retry that installation?
[11:18] <lightbright> chuckman78: you are on windows now, right?
[11:18] <poningru> katie^: hold on
[11:18] <TK4222> CV^, google "vnc" download the client for windows and then turn on remote desktop under "System-Administration->Remote desktop"
[11:18] <chuckman78> lightbright: yep
[11:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: the steam tutorial is outdated on one point
[11:18] <CV^> i got vnc
[11:18] <lightbright> chuckman78: so you will need to reboot into Ubuntu
[11:18] <CV^> and remote is turned on
[11:18] <TK4222> CV^, then connect to 192.168.0.103:0 (replace ip address with your system)
[11:18] <chuckman78> lightbright: yep, i am about to do that
[11:18] <TK4222> CV^, but make sure you have the :0
[11:18] <mcdenyer> mwe im just tyring to figure out where i installed it to
[11:18] <CV^> TK4222 Where do i find the local IP on the machine? On windows i use cmd promt
[11:18] <CV^> prompt
[11:19] <lightbright> thoreauputic: for the record, a couple of guys here falsly accused me, because I asked chuckman78 to reboot his system because his running Ms windows and needs to reboot into Ubuntu
[11:19] <peculiar> redguy, yes a problem with installing extra packages stuff after the normal cd installation was finished
[11:19] <pashaw> CV^,   type ifconfig   on the ubuntu box
[11:19] <mwe> mcdenyer: yes
[11:19] <TK4222> CV^, Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal....type "ifconfig"
[11:19] <mwe> mcdenyer: you can't edit the cofig like it says though
[11:19] <lightbright> chuckman78: make sure you fill in everything in pppconfig
[11:19] <mwe> mcdenyer: wine doesn't have that file anymore
[11:19] <peculiar> redguy, so how do I retry the last part of the installation? the cd just starts from the beginning again
[11:19] <nilsL> hey, i run ubuntu breezy on my g3 laptop. i have a mic built in that i do not know how to activate. /dev/dsp does not exist. how should i do?
[11:19] <thoreauputic> lightbright: OK - fair enough then I retract ;-)
[11:19] <TK4222> can anyone help me with my question? :)
[11:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: to find steam just peek around in ~/.wine/drive_c/Program Files/
[11:20] <deefzi> is it possible for that my gnome terminal starts with default locale of ISO-8859-15, but all my other system-locales would be UTF-8
[11:20] <poningru> katie^: go into synaptic
[11:20] <katie^> yup
[11:20] <poningru> katie^: and search for dvdrip
[11:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: oe ~/.wine/drive_c/
[11:20] <poningru> katie^: did you find it?
[11:20] <katie^> just a sex
[11:20] <katie^> *sec
[11:20] <deefzi> :-)
[11:20] <poningru> wow um we dont do that kinda stuff here
[11:20] <CV^> TK4222 Ok remote works.. How do i make it connect without asking the other PC to accept ?
[11:20] <poningru> but...
[11:20] <deefzi> poningru, we don't? wow.
[11:20] <katie^> I got an error msg
[11:20] <zytrax> I got this: Failed to run /usr/bin/gnome-app-install as user root:
[11:20] <zytrax>  Child terminated with 209 status
[11:20] <redguy> peculiar: that's a valid question
[11:21] <katie^> saying The following problemse...
[11:21] <lightbright> thoreauputic: thanks :)  I have learned from experience, we need to be careful who we listen to as many times its taken out of context and we can come to the wrong conclusions :)  usually taken out of context by the "trouble makers" who seek to get people banned
[11:21] <peculiar> hehe
[11:21] <poningru> deefzi: in here I said
[11:21] <lightbright> thoreauputic: thanks for the retraction :)
[11:21] <wastrel> are there tools that can recover deleted files from a linux partition?
[11:21] <CV^> TK4222 Never mind, i found it. .)
[11:21] <poningru> katie^: ?
[11:21] <chewlett> how can I change the GRUB boot loader in Ubuntu to automatically boot windows?
[11:21] <redguy> peculiar: do you have network connectivity? does ping google.com
[11:21] <TK4222> CV^, okay
[11:21] <katie^> when i open synaptic
[11:22] <katie^> dvdrip is here
[11:22] <deefzi> chewlett, set it to default and windows in to top of the boot table
[11:22] <peculiar> only have one network plug, using it for this machine =)
[11:22] <chewlett> how can I change the GRUB boot loader in Ubuntu to automatically boot windows?
[11:22] <thoreauputic> lightbright: thanks for the patronising sermon ;-)
[11:22] <deefzi> chewlett, and default's value in menu.lst for 0
[11:22] <chewlett> ok thanks deefzi
[11:22] <tom__> anyone know how to get kismet to work?
[11:22] <lightbright> thoreauputic:  hehe ;)
[11:22] <lightbright> thoreauputic: you know what I mean :)
[11:22] <peculiar> redguy: only have one network plug, using it for this machine =)
[11:22] <CV^> Can anyone help me getting wireless up running on my Ubuntu ?? :)
[11:22] <nilsL> hey, i run ubuntu breezy on my g3 laptop. i have a mic built in that i do not know how to activate. /dev/dsp does not exist. how should i do? sry for repeat.
[11:22] <wastrel> anyone know anything about recovery of deleted files?
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> chewlett, Windows can be anywhere in the menu, you just change the default number.
[11:23] <robotgeek> CV^, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[11:23] <thoreauputic> chewlett: why are you versioning the whole channel ?
[11:23] <mcdenyer> mwe how do i put in spaces for folder names in terminal"?
[11:23] <chewlett> what do you mean
[11:23] <poningru> nilsL: look in the volume control thing
[11:23] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, it was an action
[11:23] <paranoid_> Hey, I've got a program that is failing to compile, _think_ it' is because the version of libwnck is not => 2.8, how would I a) check which version I have, and b) install 2.8 if mine does not meet the requirements
[11:23] <erUSUL> CV^, which card (chip)?
[11:23] <peculiar> redguy: ill try the cd again, but skipping the first steps this time
[11:23] <lightbright> ompaul: byeeeee
[11:23] <mwe> mcdenyer: use quotes
[11:23] <dooglus> mcdenyer: mkdir "a b" or mkdir 'a b' or mkdir a\ b
[11:23] <tom__> does someone know how to get kismet up and running?
[11:23] <redguy> peculiar: I'm not sure if the install process wouldn't start if you simply reboot the other box
[11:23] <thoreauputic> chewlett: ah sorry misread
[11:23] <deefzi> chewlett, yes. of course that too. the first one in the tree gets value of 0
[11:23] <mwe> mcdenyer: 'program files' or whatever
[11:23] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, ?
[11:24] <TK4222> can anyone help me figure out why: when this command is run in a S55local file that i add via update-rc.d it doesnt add the drive? /bin/mount -t smbfs -o guest //192.168.0.100/downloads /mnt/wdownloads/
[11:24] <lightbright> thoreauputic: :)
[11:24] <mwe> mcdenyer: and again use caps where needed
[11:24] <peculiar> redguy: tried rebooting
[11:24] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, was for thoreauputic bad typo :)
[11:24] <dooglus> TK4222: does the command work if you run it from the command line using sudo?
[11:24] <deefzi> chewlett, and counting down from there. e.g. if you have windows title as third in the tree, place 3 on the defaults value
[11:24] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, Ah, okay.
[11:24] <lightbright> me too, brb in 5mins
[11:24] <TK4222> dooglus, worksfine via sudo but trying to get it to run automatically on boot
[11:24] <TK4222> it never adds
[11:24] <trappist> TK4222: how about -o username=guest
[11:24] <TK4222> the drive when making a script to load it via init
[11:25] <mcdenyer> mwe cd '.wine/drive_c/Program Files/Steam'
[11:25] <CV^> erUSUL A Intel PRO/Wireless 2200BG
[11:25] <dooglus> TK4222: if you just want it to work, I suggest adding it to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh, since that already runs at boot time
[11:25] <thoreauputic> ompaul: yes, I misread it as I said - I'm rusty ;)
[11:25] <mcdenyer> mwe like that?
[11:25] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah
[11:25] <TK4222> dooglus, okay ill try thanks one sec
[11:25] <mwe> mcdenyer: you can't edit the config like the tutorial says though
[11:25] <tafsen> In this guide ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SuspendHowto?highlight=%28suspend%29 ) it says edit your #koptline of your /boot/grub/menu.lst so it ends with apm=on ,
[11:25] <ompaul> thoreauputic, :)
[11:25] <mwe> mcdenyer: it's outdated
[11:25] <CV^> erUSUL It is in the device manager, i just need to configure the wireless setup..
[11:25] <CV^> erUSUL I just cant make it work
[11:26] <tafsen> can anyone help me with that?
[11:26] <linus21> #cacalo
[11:26] <Drac[Server] > I was never prompted for a root password in the installation. Now I don't know what it is. Is there some default one or something?
[11:26] <CV^> erUSUL Because i got no encryption, but there is not a "No encryption" option in the setup
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> !root
[11:26] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:26] <dooglus> Drac[Server] : the root account is locked.  using "sudo"
[11:26] <tom__> anyone?  Kismet?
[11:26] <wastrel> ubuntu hates root
[11:26] <pashaw> CV^,  are you using WEP or WPA
[11:26] <mcdenyer> mwe lame
[11:26] <mwe> mcdenyer: what?
[11:26] <CV^> pashaw How do i knoe ?
[11:26] <ompaul> wastrel, you don't actually need it, that is what sudo is for
[11:26] <CV^> know
[11:26] <erUSUL> CV^, can you post /etc/network/interfaces in pastebin?
[11:26] <Drac[Server] > dooglus: Ah... I see..
[11:27] <tonyyarusso> Grr...I love these tech support walkthroughs that assume you're an idiot, so begin with "You will need MS Windows XP with SP2".  No, I won't.  I'll only need that to follow your screenshot directions.  Just give me the actual connection information!
[11:27] <mcdenyer> mwe thats the tut is outdated
[11:27] <nilsL> poningru: i can't find my mic there ... if not, drc? what is that?
[11:27] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah. I'll help you though
[11:27] <CV^> erUSUL No, Acces Denied
[11:27] <dooglus> mcdenyer: you can use the 'tab' key in the terminal:  "cd .wine/program<tab>" will finish the folder name for you
[11:27] <mwe> mcdenyer: in the terminal use tab to complete the folder names for you
[11:27] <pashaw> !tell CV^ about pastebin
[11:27] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, they are given a script and then they get it all across, they are usually not permitted to deviate
[11:27] <Drac[Server] > Hmmm... and apparently the sudo password is the user password. Interesting.
[11:28] <TK4222> dooglus, trying its rebooting now
[11:28] <tafsen> Can anyone help me with suspend-to-ram?
[11:28] <erUSUL> CV^, use sudo less /etc/network/interfaces and copy paste
[11:28] <paranoid_> Drac[Server] : no, your user just has the rights to use sudo, for that it requires the user password ;)
[11:28] <peculiar> redguy, thanks anyway....Ill try to install over again
[11:28] <peculiar> bye
[11:28] <mcdenyer> mwe im ognna restart brb
[11:28] <nilsL> poningru: when i try use the sound recorder it refers to dev/dsp which do not exist. so i suppose the system has not identified the mic.
[11:28] <mwe> tafsen: I think it's usually not working
[11:28] <mwe> tafsen: if ever
[11:28] <wastrel> anyone know anything about recovering a deleted file from a linux filesystem?
[11:28] <rabbit> when compiling from source, should "make" and "make install"  be done using sudo ???
[11:29] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, It's for my university network.  Somehow I doubt anything is not permitting them to have a link for "If you just want it straight-up, click here".
[11:29] <tafsen> mwe; even If i follow the guide in the wiki?
[11:29] <CV^> erUSUL Im not sure what u mean, i just installed my first Linux based system EVER, and i asked u guys for some help. :)
[11:29] <dooglus> rabbit: you shouldn't use root to build, no
[11:29] <rabbit> k, thanks dooglus
[11:29] <paranoid_> rabbit: iirc only make install should be used with sudo, and only if you want to install the software package accross the whole system
[11:29] <dooglus> rabbit: you should run "make" as the user, and "sudo checkinstall" to do the install
[11:29] <thoreauputic> rabbit: just sudo make install
[11:29] <mwe> tafsen: well that's new to me. Maybe it's supposed work by now then
[11:29] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell rabbit about checkinstall
[11:29] <TK4222> dooglus, nope adding it there didnt make it show up either
[11:29] <mwe> tafsen: last I checked but that a while ago it was almost impossible
[11:29] <dooglus> TK4222: odd
[11:29] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell rabbit about compiling
[11:30] <thoreauputic> rabbit: dooglus 's suggestion of checkinstall is good - install that
[11:30] <nilsL> if i try to identify a hardware that has not been identified... how would i do that?
[11:30] <TK4222> trappist, does -o username=guest make a huge difference if its run from a bootscript?
[11:30] <ompaul> wastrel, there is a program called tct The coroners toolkit it is a large collection of scripts, never had to use it
[11:30] <dooglus> rabbit: unless you're using dapper - checkinstall doesn't work in dapper
[11:30] <TK4222> dooglus, yah running via script via commandline works perfectly
[11:30] <paranoid_> Hey, I've got a program that is failing to compile, _think_ it' is because the version of libwnck is not => 2.8, how would I a) check which version I have, and b) install 2.8 if mine does not meet the requirements
[11:30] <wastrel> ompaul thx i'll cheque it out
[11:30] <rabbit> nope dooglus..  I'm breezy
[11:30] <Toe> hey, how are the ubuntu cd's shipped through shipit packaged?
[11:30] <thoreauputic> dooglus: really? no checkinstall in dapper? or a bug?
[11:30] <robotgeek> paranoid_: dpkg -l libwcnk
[11:30] <gnomefreak> 2 in a sleave
[11:30] <dooglus> TK4222: when you run via the command line, does it prompt you for anything?
[11:30] <tafsen> mwe do you know how do add this? Also, edit the #kopt line of your /boot/grub/menu.lst file so that it ends with apm=on,
[11:30] <CV^> erUSUL Cant it be done using the Interface, insted of the Terminal thing ?
[11:30] <dooglus> thoreauputic: a bug I think
[11:31] <thoreauputic> dooglus: hope it gets fixed then - useful utility
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Toe, you get 1 install cd and 1 live cd in a paper sleave
[11:31] <erUSUL> CV^, does System>Admin>Network work for you?
[11:31] <Drac[Server] > I want to have support for a second serial mouse. In xorg.conf, do I need to add a whole new mouse section, or can I just add a second "Device" line?
[11:31] <katie^> okay
[11:31] <robotgeek> thoreauputic: if are using dapper, you can build your own packages the debian way. it's all a conspiracy, i tell you
[11:31] <Toe> gnomefreak, what type of envelope is it? is it a plain one?
[11:31] <mwe> tafsen: yeah
[11:31] <katie^> my sources list was screwed
[11:31] <katie^> but i think i fixed it
[11:31] <katie^> :D
[11:31] <zytrax> installing vmwaretools
[11:31] <CV^> erUSUL Yes indead. :)
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Toe, yellow last ones i got
[11:31] <paranoid_> robotgeek: humm, odd, not showing up... but it's installed heh
[11:31] <Syco54645> how can i keep the ubuntu updater from wanting to update wine... i finally got dc++ working after a few hours and now it wants to change the version and i am afraid it will be broken
[11:31] <TK4222> dooglus, only the password when i run sudo obviously.....but bootmisc is running as root so no need to run it with sudo right?
[11:31] <mwe> tafsen: that's a cofusing way to put it
[11:31] <zytrax> vmwaretools rpm how to install?
[11:31] <thoreauputic> robotgeek: ah, /me gets his tinfoil hat ;)
[11:31] <Toe> okay, just wanted to know before I ordered it
[11:32] <CV^> erUSUL Then i choose Wireless Connection, and configure. i enter the network name, and then i have to choose some kind of encryption.. But i dont have encryption, so what do i do ?
[11:32] <tafsen> mwe: yeah, I didn't understand it =\ Could you tell me where to add it?
[11:32] <paranoid_> robotgeek: ah, libwnck-dev however is installed... and it's 2.12... any idea how I can upgrade that to 2.18? (I installed it today - running Breezy)
[11:32] <gnomefreak> Toe, its like a padded envolope
[11:32] <lightbright> thoreauputic: enjoy :)
[11:32] <Toe> people in my house aren't too keen on linux, I need to smuggle the discs in the house
[11:32] <gnomefreak> lol toe
[11:32] <Toe> while my cd writer is broken
[11:32] <Toe> :\
[11:32] <zytrax> please I need to convert rpm to debian installation package
[11:32] <lightbright> Toe: why arent they keen on linux?
[11:32] <robotgeek> paranoid_: not unless you compile it yourself, i guess
[11:32] <Toe> don't know
[11:32] <robotgeek> zytrax: alien
[11:32] <timfrost> zytrax, are you installing to an ubuntu virtual machine?
[11:32] <pashaw> !tell Syco54645 about pinning
[11:32] <Toe> they're m$ sluts
[11:32] <stpere> zytrax, use alien
[11:32] <zytrax> yes
[11:32] <mwe> tafsen: edit the file (menu.lst) you know how to do that right?
[11:32] <spiregrain> zytrax - you need a programme called alien
[11:32] <lightbright> ompaul: well?
[11:32] <zytrax> ok
[11:33] <zytrax> thanks
[11:33] <CV^> erUSUL Then i choose Wireless Connection, and configure. i enter the network name, and then i have to choose some kind of encryption.. But i dont have encryption, so what do i do ?
[11:33] <ompaul> Toe, now now, they are just misguided
[11:33] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Toe about coc
[11:33] <Syco54645> thankls pashaw
[11:33] <mwe> tafsen: with sudo
[11:33] <zytrax> gimme a link please
[11:33] <tafsen> mwe: Yeah, im in the file. But I really can't figure it out where to add it =\
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Toe, there will know the difference if they look at screen
[11:33] <Toe> anyway, that's all I need to know for now, bye
[11:33] <paranoid_> robotgeek: humm, suppose so... I was wondering if there was a respository I might get away with force installing it from or something?
[11:33] <zytrax> do I need to install it as well?
[11:33] <robotgeek> !alien
[11:33] <ubotu> I guess alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[11:33] <TK4222> dooglus, hmmm not good if were both stumped :)
[11:33] <mwe> tafsen: find the line that begins with #kopt
[11:33] <mwe> tafsen: find the line that begins with # kopt=
[11:33] <mwe> tafsen: search for it
[11:33] <tafsen> mwe, done
[11:34] <erUSUL> CV^, you do not have any encryption? maybe leaving the fields empty will do the trick
[11:34] <tafsen> mew, # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro
[11:34] <bobbyd> hi
[11:34] <tafsen> mwe, # kopt=root=/dev/hda3 ro
[11:34] <bobbyd> where are the X cursor themes stored?
[11:34] <mwe> tafsen: now write apm=on or whatever you neede at the end of the line
[11:34] <dooglus> TK4222: I suggest putting some debugging in the bootmisc.sh file
[11:34] <hackmiester[LT] > HEY SUP
[11:34] <dooglus> TK4222: maybe a line "date > /tmp/bootmisc.txt" so you can be sure it ran
[11:34] <CV^> erUSUL No i dont. I tried leaving the key field empty, but it couldnt find the network.. I can choose 2 kinds of encryption, ASCI and something else.. some Decimal thing
[11:34] <tafsen> mew, and remove the #?
[11:34] <mwe> tafsen: no
[11:34] <hackmiester[LT] > er
[11:34] <hackmiester[LT] > -caps
[11:35] <mwe> tafsen: update-grub uses it
[11:35] <TK4222> dooglus, cool i will try one second
[11:35] <pashaw> TK4222, why dont you mount it normally  using fstab?
[11:35] <tafsen> mwe, ok thx :)
[11:35] <trappist> that's what I was gonna say
[11:35] <dooglus> TK4222: and maybe redirect output and error of the mount command too:   mount <blah> > /tmp/mount-out.txt 2> /tmp/mount-err.txt
[11:35] <mwe> tafsen: it's supposed to have a # in the beginning
[11:35] <mwe> rabbit: then run update-grub
[11:35] <CV^> erUSUL Do i have to add some DNS server or something ? Or should it do that automaticly with the DHCP ?
[11:35] <mwe> tafsen: sudo it though
[11:35] <tafsen> mwe, I'l let you know if it works ;)
[11:35] <rabbit> mwe   what?!
[11:36] <pashaw> CV^,   type  iwconfig    is the card on?
[11:36] <rabbit> mwe,  update-grub ?  what for?
[11:36] <mwe> rabbit: sorry hit the wrong key
[11:36] <erUSUL> CV^, what are you trying to connect to? a router?
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> What do I need to do to access a WPA-encrypted wireless network?  (After installing wpasupplicant)
[11:36] <TK4222> dooglus, no problem :)
[11:36] <hackmiester[LT] > Someone sell me on Ubuntu
[11:36] <mwe> rabbit: gave me a wrong nick
[11:36] <hackmiester[LT] > no hurry
[11:36] <rabbit> mwe : S
[11:36] <TK4222> pashaw, doesnt mount either there
[11:36] <katie^> okay
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> !wpa
[11:36] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, wpa is enable the universe repository, then "sudo apt-get update", and then "sudo apt-get install wpasupplicant"
[11:36] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso, wpa_suplicant is not strictly necessary
[11:36] <pashaw> TK4222,   you did read the wiki rignt?
[11:36] <katie^> so now, i have installed dvdrip
[11:36] <katie^> how do i rip it/
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, How come?
[11:37] <dave_> hello, ive got a problem. . .im trying to run an opengl program in C++ with openGL/glut, i installed freeglut with package manager, and now, i can successfully compile my program, but when I run it, i get "freeglut (myprog): failed to open display ''", however, i can run other openGL/glut binaries, which i did not compile myself, so what is the problem here? Thanks so much!
[11:37] <TK4222> pashaw, yah of course on smb mounting but maybe i missed something?
[11:37] <CV^> pashaw It says no wireless extensions, and the funny thing is, that there are 2 wiereless profiles. one of them are i the network management menu, but the other one is just there..
[11:37] <trappist> dave_: try export DISPLAY=:0
[11:37] <CV^> erUSUL A accespoint
[11:38] <TK4222> dooglus, rebooting
[11:38] <erUSUL> you can use iwpriv in some cards (such as mine) to set wpa modes and pass. see the ralink 2500 article in the wiki
[11:38] <tim_> hey guys, a disk burned with k3b can on linux can be read on windows, right?
[11:39] <miky> hi i really need help i was installing firefox 1.5 and i got this error: "/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[11:39] <miky> "
[11:39] <katie^> elp
[11:39] <jrattner1> tim yes
[11:39] <tim_> ok thanks
[11:39] <dave_> thanks trappist, i tried that already, i get xlib problem, connection to :0.0 refused by server, xlib no proto. specified, freeglut failed to open display ":0"
[11:39] <CV^> pashaw , erUSUL EY, now it works.. But its running very very very slow... And there are 3 wireless profiles which isnt in use, cant i remove them ?
[11:39] <erUSUL> CV^, i guess so...
[11:39] <dooglus> miky: did you install libstdc++5?
[11:39] <miky> i copied a couple of scripts from a webpage and i messed up my firefox
[11:39] <mwe> dave_: xauth
[11:39] <mwe> dave_: I guess
[11:40] <miky> i'll do it right away
[11:40] <dave_> what is xauth
[11:40] <trappist> dave_: are you running this app as the user you're logged in as?
[11:40] <mwe> dave_: who's trying to run the program?
[11:40] <mwe> dave_: the user that started X?
[11:40] <dooglus> dave_: you need to run the command in a terminal which has the XAUTHORITY environment variable set.
[11:40] <pashaw> !tell miky about firefox1.5
[11:40] <dave_> im running with my current user, that i logged in with, i also tried root, and get the same thing
[11:40] <dooglus> dave_: any terminal you open inside GNOME will have it set automatically
[11:41] <cafuego> !info rt2500-source
[11:41] <ubotu> rt2500-source: (RT2500 wireless network drivers source), section universe/net, is extra. Version: 1.1.0+cvs20050530-2 (breezy), Packaged size: 234 kB, Installed size: 300 kB
[11:41] <mwe> dave_: weird
[11:41] <joshua> hrnm
[11:41] <joshua> hrm*
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, searching for ralink in the wiki returned no results.  Do you have a link?
[11:41] <GeorgeAScott> mozilla keeps crashing on me
[11:41] <joshua> How do i add devel branches for ubuntu for like upgraded firefox and such
[11:41] <TK4222> dooglus, oooh good idea: got this back "treeconnect failed: ERRDOS -ERRnoaccess (Access Denied.)
[11:41] <dave_> i login, open a terminal as my user, and get this issue, i tried running xauth, and i get authority not writable, changes ignored
[11:41] <CV^> erUSUL But, when its on wireless, i cant get acces with VNC
[11:41] <TK4222> dooglus, makes no sense since it works fine when were booted properly
[11:42] <dooglus> TK4222: bootmisc.sh runs pretty late in the boot sequence
[11:42] <TK4222> true
[11:42] <miky> ok it worx
[11:42] <tim_> why would k3b be writing spontaniously at 3x when the drive and disk is capable of 16x?
[11:42] <dooglus> TK4222: I don't know what that error message means
[11:42] <pashaw> TK4222, you sure the share  isnt reading your logged in username/password
[11:42] <TK4222> so doesnt make sense why were getting denied on that
[11:42] <mwe> joshua: firefox is not going to be updated in breezy because of the way ubuntu works that would break things
[11:42] <dave_> hey its working!!!!!!!!
[11:42] <TK4222> pashaw, its running as a guest connect
[11:42] <pashaw> TK4222,   thats why it probably works when your booted and logged in
[11:42] <dooglus> dave_: what did you do differently?
[11:42] <dave_> it worked as root!!!! YEAH!!!! ive been at this for hours, thanks guys, thats weird that it didnt work b4
[11:42] <mwe> dave_: great
[11:43] <JoshRA> mwe: i would have to upgrade it myself?
[11:43] <TK4222> pashaw, not sure i understand since im trying to connect as guest
[11:43] <JoshRA> or i can't upgrade it at all?
[11:43] <mwe> !tell JoshRA about ff1.5
[11:43] <mwe> JoshRA: read /msg from ubotu
[11:43] <dave_> is there some way i can have this working for my login terminal, not root terminal?
[11:43] <pashaw> TK4222,  you could always make a new user and try it quick
[11:43] <mike-e> !repositories
[11:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:43] <mike-e> !easysource
[11:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:43] <TK4222> pashaw hmmm okay..or mabye -user=guest?
[11:43] <JoshRA> mwe: allread ahead of you. I did not see that hwne i was looking around
[11:43] <TK4222> username=guest i should say
[11:44] <nvez> whats a good C++ IDE for linux, and a general IDE (Php, etc)
[11:44] <JoshRA> mwe: joshua is my home pc
[11:44] <bobbyd> nvez, kdevelop
[11:44] <pashaw> TK4222,    thoguht you said earlier it worked wihtout that whicle logged in
[11:44] <mwe> JoshRA: what?
[11:44] <nvez> bobbyd.. gnome?
[11:44] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[11:44] <cyphase> does anyone think an RSS daemon would be useful?
[11:44] <bobbyd> nvez, sorry, I use kde
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, Thanks.
[11:44] <cyphase> a program to download/filter/edit RSS feeds
[11:45] <JoshRA> mwe: why would it break things? i do not understand
[11:45] <TK4222> pashaw it works after i have booted up
[11:45] <bobbyd> nvez, kdevelop will run under gnome
[11:45] <TK4222> and run it from a script
[11:45] <erUSUL> tonyyarusso, np
[11:45] <mwe> JoshRA: because ubuntu design is broken
[11:45] <TK4222> trying with -o username=guest
[11:45] <pashaw> TK4222,   thats why i thought it maight be passing your loginname and password  of the logged in user
[11:45] <V-oblivion-V> hey :)
[11:46] <mwe> JoshRA: http://distrowatch.com/weekly.php?issue=20051212#3
[11:46] <TK4222> pashaw probably
[11:46] <Samineru> could i have some help using the pdf2ps command, im new to linux so dont use too technical terms on me
[11:46] <aggressor> Hey can someone help me with wine
[11:46] <TK4222> otherwise doesnt make sense
[11:46] <cello_rasp> how do i mount bin/cue images
[11:46] <pashaw> TK4222,   the wiki explains clearly how to use SMB with users/passwords  using fstab
[11:46] <bobbyd> Samineru, what's the problem?
[11:46] <cello_rasp> aggressor: opk
[11:46] <erUSUL> nvez, *the* general ide is emacs ;). Try anjuta for c/c++ in gnome
[11:46] <V-oblivion-V> Could someone help me? I'm running ubuntu live right now, is there a way for me to check what format my hard drive is?
[11:46] <TK4222> pashaw, oh yeah i know that but it doesnt reference guest a lot
[11:47] <pashaw> TK4222,   guest is bad practice IMHO
[11:47] <aggressor> cello_rasp, how i can open Program Files (cd ~/.wine/driver_c/Program File/ doesnt work
[11:47] <pashaw> TK4222,   just setup a low security share
[11:47] <Samineru> I just don't know how to use it
[11:47] <cyphase> V-oblivion-V, System -> Administration -> Disks
[11:47] <katie^> Failed to mount /DVD at /cdrom (Mount: special device /dev/hdb does not exist)
[11:47] <katie^> help?
[11:47] <V-oblivion-V> ah, thanks cyphase!
[11:47] <dooglus> aggressor: put a \ before the space
[11:47] <cyphase> V-oblivion-V, my pleasure
[11:48] <aggressor> cello_rasp, ok i try
[11:48] <cello_rasp> aggressor: /home/yourname/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[11:48] <dooglus> aggressor: if you hit <tab> after typing "Program" it will finish the path for you
[11:48] <JoshRA> eh mwe that sucks
[11:48] <mwe> JoshRA: ubuntu doesn't have gecko as a seperate package. so updating the firefox package would mean updating gecko. thus things that depend on gecko from ff 1.0.7 would break with gecko from ff 1.5. that's more than 50 apps
[11:48] <JoshRA> thanks for your help
[11:48] <Samineru> bobbyd?
[11:48] <tonyyarusso> Has the question ever been answered about whether different workspaces can have different desktop backgrounds?
[11:48] <aggressor> TY
[11:48] <cello_rasp> now, how do i mount bin/cue images?
[11:49] <mwe> JoshRA: however just installing it manually works fine
[11:49] <trappist> cello_rasp: you have to convert them to iso first - use bchunker for that
[11:49] <bobbyd> Samineru, type "pdf2ps --help" on the command line and maybe "man pdf2ps"
[11:49] <mwe> JoshRA: that keeps the old gecko around
[11:49] <redguy> tonyyarusso: well in kde you can
[11:49] <dooglus> cello_rasp: if you just want to play them, give the .bin file to mplayer directly.
[11:49] <aggressor> dooglus, can i run SmartFTP with wine
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> redguy, Good to know.  Using Gnome here though.
[11:49] <trappist> dooglus: cool, didn't know you can do that
[11:49] <dooglus> aggressor: wtf is smartftp?
[11:49] <deefzi> how to disable pc-beeper in linux? is it correct way to set beep's lenght to zero?
[11:49] <aggressor> Dooglus, ftp client
[11:49] <Samineru> It said to just type pdf2ps [input.pdf]  [output.ps] 
[11:49] <erUSUL> katie^,  'dmesg | grep hd' will give you a hint on which is the dev of your dvd
[11:50] <dooglus> trappist: yes, it's magical :)
[11:50] <trappist> indeed
[11:50] <cello_rasp> bchunker is third party software?
[11:50] <dooglus> aggressor: I don't know.  why would you want to?
[11:50] <aggressor> dooglus, gFTP sucks :p
[11:50] <trappist> cello_rasp: uh
[11:50] <Samineru> which i did
[11:50] <trappist> cello_rasp: who are the first two parties?
[11:50] <cello_rasp> me, ubuntu
[11:50] <aggressor> dooglus, il gonna find somethinf
[11:50] <aggressor> g else
[11:50] <aggressor> ty enyway
[11:51] <cello_rasp> trappist: as in, there are no ubuntu debs for it?
[11:51] <trappist> cello_rasp: sorry, meant bchunk
[11:51] <JoshRA> mwe: thanks i installed it as such and uit works fine.
[11:51] <Samineru> i just typed rob@lappy:~$ pdf2ps /home/rob/desktop/charsheet.pdf charsheet2.ps
[11:51] <nilsL> how do i get a swedish charset for my keyboard on a g3 breezy ubuntu laptop? :)
[11:51] <trappist> bchunk - CD image format conversion from bin/cue to iso/cdr
[11:51] <mwe> JoshRA: however things would also get easier if firefox developers actually started thinking
[11:51] <Samineru> and it gave me this Error: /undefinedfilename in (/home/rob/desktop/charsheet.pdf)
[11:51] <Samineru> Operand stack:
[11:51] <Samineru> Execution stack:
[11:51] <Samineru>    %interp_exit   .runexec2   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   2   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   --nostringval--   false   1   %stopped_push   --nostringval--   --nostringval--
[11:51] <Samineru> Dictionary stack:
[11:51] <cello_rasp> thx trappist ^^
[11:51] <Samineru>    --dict:1054/1417(ro)(G)--   --dict:0/20(G)--   --dict:68/200(L)--
[11:51] <mwe> JoshRA: not changing the api all the time
[11:51] <Samineru> Current allocation mode is local
[11:51] <Samineru> Last OS error: 2
[11:51] <trappist> Samineru: don't paste here.
[11:51] <Samineru> ESP Ghostscript 7.07.1: Unrecoverable error, exit code 1
[11:51] <pashaw> !pastebin
[11:51] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:51] <TK4222> pashaw i know its just a local network i could care less about though okay it worked but prompted me for a password with username=guest trying now username=guest,password=''
[11:51] <bimberi> Samineru: (don't paste) capital D in Desktop
[11:51] <cello_rasp> quick, get the animales into the ark
[11:52] <Samineru> ah
[11:52] <tony__> hi need important help! install stuck! new rig today with sata -god i hate windows. after several installs i seem to have a working ubunt install next to a win install. now grub wont start. how can i re install bootloader and grub? in breezy live now. pls help?
[11:52] <erUSUL> Samineru, please do not flood the channel
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> bchunk is in universe
[11:52] <JoshRA> mwe: that is true but i don't care atm i had the fun of upgradeing badger to brezzy
[11:52] <Drac[Server] > I'm using the "microsoft" protocol for my serial mouse. I believe this is correct, if I recall from memory. Am I right?
[11:52] <dooglus> cello_rasp: he means "bchunk"
[11:52] <Samineru> sorry
[11:52] <JoshRA> mwe: that is aver 1100 packages (if you have kubuntu)
[11:52] <JoshRA> over*
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> !tell tony__ about grub
[11:52] <mwe> JoshRA: heh
[11:52] <pashaw> TK4222,  for that i always make a share  with user/pass  linux/linux     then you add that to the fstab setup and it auto mounts your basic share
[11:52] <erUSUL> tony__, grub-install /dev/hdxx
[11:52] <zytrax> how to install vmware-install.pl?
[11:53] <tony__> thx ill try!
[11:53] <pulpul> s
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, He
[11:53] <cyphase> Does anyone think a feed daemon would be useful? As in a program to download/filter/edit feeds..
[11:53] <tonyyarusso> erUSUL, He's going to need to chroot first.
[11:53] <Samineru> thanks everyone, sorry about the flood
[11:53] <nvez> erUSUL nvez, *the* general ide is emacs ;). Try anjuta for c/c++ in gnome < cant find that in apt-get ?
[11:53] <timfrost> !VMware
[11:53] <bimberi> Samineru: np, fyi short 1 line pastes are ok, anything larger we use a pastebin (such as http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org )
[11:53] <miky> when i boot ubuntu my network connection always starts up deactivated so that i have to activate it everytime
[11:53] <gnomefreak> !info anjuta
[11:53] <Crell42> emacs would be a great OS, if only it had a text editor.
[11:53] <ubotu> anjuta: (A GNOME development IDE, for C/C++), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 1.2.4-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 872 kB, Installed size: 2124 kB
[11:53] <TK4222> pashaw that worked what i just did thanks.....weird that -o guest doesnt work on automounting
[11:53] <miky> how do i set this automatically
[11:53] <cyphase> miky, are you using ndiswrapper?
[11:54] <miky> cyphase, ndiswrapper?
[11:54] <bobslaede> hey ya'll
[11:54] <mwe> miky: edit /etc/network/interfaces to read auto for the interface
[11:54] <cyphase> miky, a kernel mod that lets you use windows networking drivers in linux
[11:55] <cyphase> gnomefreak, me too :)
[11:55] <erUSUL> Crell42, it has a vi emulator so it has a good text editor ;)
[11:55] <Crell42> That's assuming vi is a good text editor, which is debatable, but I won't get into that now. :-)
[11:55] <nvez> any place to start learning c++ or gc++
[11:55] <pashaw> miky,   you talking about wireless or   wired network
[11:55] <timfrost> zytrax, for breezy or hoary, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare
[11:55] <miky> pashaw, wired
[11:56] <mwe> what's gc++ ?
[11:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do you make a video cd on linux from an avi?
[11:56] <miky> cyphase, ok i don't think i need that
[11:56] <bobslaede> zytrax: its pretty easy, just sudo it
[11:56] <nvez> well, c++ .. programs that can be coded. =p
[11:56] <pashaw> miky,   add   auto eth1      or whatever your eth# is  to /etc/network/interfaces
[11:56] <Eggplant> Anyone use TightVNC (on windows) to connect to a ubuntu server and have it randomly kill/crash the service?
[11:56] <bluefoxicy> someone set off my highlight
[11:56] <zytrax> I have tried, when I try to add an application I cannot find vmware tool anywhere
[11:56] <tony__> erSUL & tonyyarusso: i got - casper snapshot does no have corresponding bios drive when i tried my first sata partition. sould i try to make grub on my ide disk and set it first on bootup in bios?
[11:56] <mwe> nvez: http://www.cplusplus.com/doc/tutorial/
[11:57] <bluefoxicy> the only words that do that are $nick, "cock", and "slut"
[11:57] <bobslaede> zytrax: vmware workstation, or the player?
[11:57] <mwe> nvez: and the faq is great too
[11:57] <zytrax> workstation
[11:57] <bobslaede> zytrax: pretty sure its called vmware
[11:57] <zytrax> i check again
[11:57] <bobslaede> zytrax: which vmware, or just tab your way thru it
[11:57] <alderon> bin ich schon drin oder was?
[11:57] <alderon> na das ging ja einfach
[11:57] <ompaul> bluefoxicy, it was not your name :)
[11:58] <miky> pashaw, it says "auto eth0
[11:58] <miky> "
[11:58] <mwe> nvez: http://www.parashift.com/c++-faq-lite/
[11:58] <pashaw> miky,   what commands  do you normally run to get it working/
[11:58] <tonyyarusso> tony__, What other things were you thinking of having first boot?
[11:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do you make a video cd on linux from an avi?
[11:58] <eliasz> CanYouHelpMePlz, check out k3b
[11:58] <bobslaede> zytrax: you could right click a vmx file (vmx right?) and type in vmware for the default app, if thats what its called
[11:58] <miky> it's a pci net card so i would like it to run byitself
[11:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eliasz: how do you make a video cd in k3b ?
[11:59] <eliasz> altho u need to use transcode to change avi to mpg
[11:59] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: click the buttons
[11:59] <miky> even though i had installed a dsl which i don't use anymore
[11:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: ?
[11:59] <eliasz> u got too create new, video cd....
[11:59] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, it will become obvious in that program
[11:59] <bobslaede> (the workstation wont work in my pc for some reason, i just use the player now, but it doesnt work with groups and stuff...)
[11:59] <TK4222> thanks dooglus pashaw
[11:59] <tony__> tonyyarusso: my sata drive. i still get same error on trying grub install on hdc1 my first ide partition
[11:59] <zytrax> I have vmware-tools folder on my desktop
[11:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> thanks guys.
[11:59] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, what do you want to play back the CD on?
[11:59] <miky> should i take out "auto dsl-provider"?
[11:59] <bobslaede> zytrax: the install folder, or some symlinks?