| mhz | ogra: is it me or ubuntu apt repos are having trouble? | 12:42 |
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| crimsun | mhz: they work fine here (a.u.c. does at least) | 01:01 |
| mhz | crimsun: thx | 01:02 |
| mhz | :( | 01:02 |
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| Yagisan | mhz, hows techocimento (I spelt it wrong again didn't I) going ? | 04:50 |
| mhz | good and bad | 04:51 |
| Yagisan | mhz: bad first | 04:51 |
| mhz | good = it seems the best for us is to become a NGO | 04:51 |
| mhz | :D | 04:51 |
| mhz | sorry | 04:51 |
| mhz | bad = not many people believed we want to do things right first, then carghe money for it | 04:52 |
| mhz | :) | 04:52 |
| Yagisan | I see | 04:52 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I expect to lose my governemt grant soon | 04:53 |
| mhz | wow | 04:53 |
| mhz | sorry | 04:53 |
| Yagisan | mhz: lower then expected takeup :( | 04:53 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I divert them to voicemail so I don't hear them complain >:) | 04:54 |
| mhz | Yagisan: i am truly sorry to hear that | 04:54 |
| Yagisan | mhz: it's a combination of my wifes injury (hospital fuckup), and general lack of willingness to spend cash on the part of customers | 04:55 |
| mhz | Yagisan: I have never been there yet, so I can hardly imagine how shitty this situation must be | 04:56 |
| mhz | however, I do hope better things come up | 04:56 |
| Yagisan | mhz: me too. I keep trying, that's why I invested so much time on http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8081/eyagi | 04:56 |
| Yagisan | mhz: more interest from overseas, so I'll try to capture that | 04:57 |
| Yagisan | mhz: like my rss feeds ? | 05:01 |
| mhz | times out | 05:02 |
| Yagisan | mhz: really ? damm, it works for me | 05:02 |
| Yagisan | mhz: of course, I'm not using apache to cache it yet | 05:03 |
| mhz | ooh | 05:06 |
| mhz | it happens many times when it's loong distance calls :) | 05:06 |
| Yagisan | mhz: fun times will happen tonight when I attempt to cache it with apache, and not kill my ubuntu repo. | 05:08 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: did I mention that is the live machine too | 05:08 |
| mhz | ooooooooohhhhh | 05:08 |
| mhz | interesting and safer | 05:09 |
| === Yagisan wonders if I can use plone for online training | ||
| mhz | Yagisan: I'd suggest Claroline, Moodle, or e-lame.org | 05:12 |
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| mhz | Yagisan: I'd suggest Claroline, Moodle, or e-lane.org | 05:12 |
| Yagisan | mhz: thank you. | 05:12 |
| mhz | yw | 05:13 |
| mhz | Yagisan: how do i let a user run CGI ? | 05:20 |
| Yagisan | mhz: whuch www server, and are you sure you want to do it ? | 05:21 |
| mhz | whuch? | 05:21 |
| Yagisan | typo | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | which | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | mhz: or pretend I'm from new zealand, your choice | 05:23 |
| mhz | lol | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | :-P | 05:23 |
| mhz | Yagisan: apache2 | 05:24 |
| Yagisan | mhz: just a sec (I don't run cgi myself - many security issues) | 05:25 |
| Yagisan | mhz: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html look for user directories | 05:27 |
| mhz | okis, thx | 05:28 |
| Yagisan | mhz: do you know what cgi scripts are running ? | 05:29 |
| mhz | just one | 05:29 |
| mhz | moin.cgi | 05:29 |
| Yagisan | mhz: you will need to track security on that. cgi is most easy way to take over a www server | 05:31 |
| mhz | Yagisan: true | 05:32 |
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| mhz | Yagisan: have you ever kept an entire OS synced with rsync? | 06:27 |
| Yagisan | mhz: no - it could make a perfect clone | 06:28 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: but it would also have the same ip etc | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | mhz: there is another app that lets you do that | 06:28 |
| mhz | oh | 06:28 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I forgot the name at the moment | 06:29 |
| mhz | booh | 06:29 |
| Yagisan | mhz: it works like a two way rsync | 06:29 |
| mhz | Yagisan: and you have used qemu? | 06:29 |
| mhz | iirc, Yagisan used quemu | 06:30 |
| mhz | qemu | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | mhz: yes - but not networking. qemu could not do what I wanted, so I haven't played with it for a while | 06:30 |
| mhz | but did qemu let you test .iso files? | 06:30 |
| Yagisan | mhz: i386 ?? yes - but it's not very fast | 06:31 |
| mhz | oh | 06:32 |
| Yagisan | mhz: it has a kqemu kernel modules that speeds it up, but that is not opensource | 06:32 |
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| mhz | bye all | 06:54 |
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| mwright1night | hello | 08:55 |
| mwright1night | is local devices going to happen for dapper drake | 08:55 |
| mwright1night | so the LTSP will be fully LTSP 4.2 compliant with the added ssh security | 08:56 |
| juliux | i think local device support it not in dapper | 08:57 |
| juliux | s/it/is/ | 08:57 |
| crimsun | it wasn't high enough priority, I don't think | 08:57 |
| mwright1night | bummer | 08:58 |
| mwright1night | I guess I'll stick with FC for another release | 08:58 |
| mwright1night | and look towards a migration next time | 08:58 |
| Burgundavia | mwright1night, not going to make it | 09:04 |
| mwright1night | will it make it for the next release post dapper? | 09:04 |
| Burgundavia | IANAD, but I would say yes | 09:05 |
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| Eghie_Work | spacey: jij had toch netbooting via Edubuntu voor elkaar? | 10:50 |
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| spacey_ki | Eghie_Work, met pxe wel ja | 11:09 |
| spacey_ki | wat lukt er niet dan | 11:09 |
| Eghie_Work | met netinstall? | 11:11 |
| Eghie_Work | of. wat boot je dan via PXE? | 11:12 |
| spacey_ki | netinstall? | 11:12 |
| spacey_ki | dat is iets anders | 11:12 |
| Eghie_Work | of boot jij een voor geinstalleerde edubuntu via PXE? | 11:12 |
| spacey_ki | ik boot mijn thinclients via PXE | 11:13 |
| Eghie_Work | aha | 11:13 |
| Eghie_Work | ikke snap | 11:13 |
| spacey_ki | dat wou jij ook of was je iets anders van plan? | 11:14 |
| Eghie_Work | mjah, volgens Treenaks in #ubuntu-NL kon je me wel helpen, maar denk zelf eig niet | 11:14 |
| Eghie_Work | nou ik ben bezig een school netwerk in te richten | 11:15 |
| Eghie_Work | via PXE, boot je Ubuntu netinstall en dan wordt via Kickstart geinstalleerd op de client met wat postinstall scriptjes | 11:15 |
| Eghie_Work | nu heb ik ook mirror gemaakt van de main repo van ubuntu | 11:16 |
| spacey_ki | das iets anders idd | 11:16 |
| Eghie_Work | alleen kan de installatie modules niet downloaden vanaf de mirror, apt werkt wel | 11:16 |
| Eghie_Work | en anna geeft te weinig debug info om te kijken van wat er mis is :S | 11:17 |
| Eghie_Work | PXE werkt zelf wel | 11:17 |
| spacey_ki | ik moet naar me werk | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | laters | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | succes | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | zou zeggen als het gelukt is | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | prop het in de wiki | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | :) | 11:28 |
| spacey_ki | ben wel benieuwd | 11:28 |
| Eghie_Work | ok, zal ik doen | 11:29 |
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| tatyana | hi, anyone here knows if the 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) (detected by lspci) can work under the edubuntu kernel? | 11:31 |
| Eghie_Work | the new one wil work i think (5.10) | 11:36 |
| Eghie_Work | a friend of mine has a laptop with a broadcom WIFI card in it, and it works under Ubuntu Breezy | 11:36 |
| tatyana | i have 5.10 | 11:37 |
| Eghie_Work | it will work (i think) | 11:37 |
| crimsun | tatyana: it does. You may have to use ndiswrapper, but it works. | 11:37 |
| tatyana | it gets detected by lspci | 11:37 |
| tatyana | but... i don't get an extra network interface | 11:38 |
| tatyana | crimsun, so not out of the box, any guide to make it work with ndiswrapper? (btw isn't that a pay application for windows drivers?) | 11:38 |
| crimsun | tatyana: ndiswrapper is free. You're thinking of Linuxant or Driverloader | 11:38 |
| tatyana | ah k | 11:38 |
| crimsun | lsmod|grep ^bcm43xx | 11:39 |
| crimsun | (at the console/in a Terminal) | 11:39 |
| tatyana | not loaded | 11:40 |
| crimsun | sudo modprobe bcm43xx | 11:40 |
| tatyana | not found | 11:41 |
| tatyana | FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found. | 11:41 |
| crimsun | must only be in Dapper, then | 11:42 |
| tatyana | :s | 11:43 |
| tatyana | I think it's best not to manually recompile this kernel | 11:43 |
| tatyana | any other way to make it work? | 11:44 |
| crimsun | do you have the .inf file for it? | 11:46 |
| crimsun | if so, you can use ndiswrapper | 11:46 |
| tatyana | ehm no | 11:46 |
| crimsun | you don't have Windows installed on that computer? | 11:46 |
| tatyana | nopz | 11:47 |
| crimsun | ok, is it currently connected to the Internet? | 11:49 |
| tatyana | yes | 11:50 |
| crimsun | you'll need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, gcc-3.4 | 11:50 |
| crimsun | you'll also need to download a copy of the .inf | 11:53 |
| tatyana | anything else? cause i'll do this later | 11:54 |
| crimsun | are you on a 64-bit machine? | 11:55 |
| tatyana | nop | 11:57 |
| crimsun | ok, then you need ndiswrapper-utils, too | 11:57 |
| crimsun | actually if you install ndiswrapper-utils, you won't need linux-headers-$(uname r), build-essential, or gcc-3.4 | 11:58 |
| tatyana | k, so that's all i need? | 11:59 |
| tatyana | installing | 12:00 |
| tatyana | hmmm | 12:17 |
| tatyana | can't extract the windows drivfers | 12:17 |
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| tatyana | root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l | 12:31 |
| tatyana | Installed ndis drivers: | 12:31 |
| tatyana | bcmwl5a invalid driver! | 12:31 |
| crimsun | I've read there are a few different .infs for it | 12:34 |
| tatyana | ah k | 12:35 |
| tatyana | got the right one now i think | 12:35 |
| tatyana | root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf | 12:36 |
| tatyana | Installing bcmwl5 | 12:36 |
| tatyana | root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l | 12:36 |
| tatyana | Installed ndis drivers: | 12:36 |
| tatyana | bcmwl5 invalid driver! | 12:36 |
| tatyana | that should be the correct one | 12:36 |
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| tatyana | options? ideas? | 01:06 |
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| P3L|C4N0 | tatyana, ndiswrapper with broadcom 4306 no support, 4318 only | 01:43 |
| DeeJay1 | hello. I have a small question - is there a network installer for edubuntu dapper testing ? | 01:48 |
| ogra | DeeJay1, only the normal ubuntu netinstall, you have to doo all the edubuntu stuff manually ... | 01:50 |
| DeeJay1 | hmm, ok | 01:51 |
| DeeJay1 | oh, BTW I'm currently fighting with edubuntu 5.10 setting random keyboard layouts on the clients, any hints here? | 01:52 |
| ogra | seen the wiki ? | 01:52 |
| ogra | you need to set it in lts.conf | 01:53 |
| DeeJay1 | still looking at different pages there | 01:53 |
| ogra | its linked from the install notes | 01:53 |
| DeeJay1 | crap, I knew it was somewhere there | 01:54 |
| DeeJay1 | but the problem is in the "pl" layout there are some different layouts one qwerty one qwertz and one I haven't seen before | 01:55 |
| DeeJay1 | ogra: thx | 01:55 |
| tatyana | mhm, is there any wway to get my broadcom 4306 working on edubuntu? (as it doesn't work with ndiswrapper) | 01:57 |
| ogra | it might work with dapper, it has the new bcm43xx driver, but dapper is not intended for day to day usage yet | 01:57 |
| tatyana | ic, any idea when dapper will be released, like 'stable' | 01:59 |
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| ogra | sure | 02:00 |
| ogra | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule | 02:00 |
| ogra | 20th of april | 02:01 |
| tatyana | ic | 02:01 |
| tatyana | k | 02:01 |
| tatyana | :) | 02:01 |
| tatyana | thx | 02:01 |
| ogra | but it should start to be usable for normal users with the beta release ... | 02:02 |
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| DeeJay1 | ogra: ok, I get someone to check it (there's no internet access yet) in the worst case gnome should handle it via some sabayon setting I think | 02:11 |
| ogra | yup | 02:11 |
| DeeJay1 | there already are some custom setting for seniors there (yeah, 80 year olds learning Linux) | 02:12 |
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| highvoltage | ogra: how are things? | 03:24 |
| ogra | busy | 03:24 |
| ogra | two days until UVF | 03:24 |
| highvoltage | sjoe | 03:29 |
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| azazel | hi, anyone can tell me where i can find a list of the edu packages included with edubuntu? | 05:09 |
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| mhz | ogra: ping, please | 05:50 |
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| Yagisan | morning mhz | 05:51 |
| mhz | morning | 05:51 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: no worries - catch you later then | 05:51 |
| ogra | mhz, pong | 05:53 |
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| P3L|C4N0 | hi people | 06:54 |
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| mhz | ogra: ping | 10:28 |
| ogra | mhz, sorry meeting ... | 10:28 |
| mhz | okis | 10:28 |
| mhz | ogra: ping? | 11:17 |
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| mhz | Does anyone know when next edubuntu summit will take place and where? | 11:34 |
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