[12:42] ogra: is it me or ubuntu apt repos are having trouble? [01:01] mhz: they work fine here (a.u.c. does at least) [01:02] crimsun: thx [01:02] :( === mhz relaxing and triple checking === guim [n=glederer@104.241-200-80.adsl-fix.skynet.be] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_BBS === Burgwork [n=corey@S010600131016cf6f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089FB15.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === florida [n=maxedout@69-161-168-65.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has joined #edubuntu === florida [n=maxedout@69-161-168-65.atlsfl.adelphia.net] has left #edubuntu [] === TOZTWO [n=TOZ@dialup-4.253.69.125.Dial1.Dallas1.Level3.net] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-166-155.tri-isys.com] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === tpalmer [n=tpalmer@adsl-066-156-078-024.sip.asm.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan waves at mhz_BBS === ealden [n=ealden@ipdial-166-155.tri-isys.com] has joined #edubuntu === mhz_BBS is now known as mhz === arkan0x is now known as TeraHz === TeraHz is now known as arkan0x [04:50] mhz, hows techocimento (I spelt it wrong again didn't I) going ? [04:51] good and bad [04:51] mhz: bad first [04:51] good = it seems the best for us is to become a NGO [04:51] :D [04:51] sorry [04:52] bad = not many people believed we want to do things right first, then carghe money for it [04:52] :) [04:52] I see [04:53] mhz: I expect to lose my governemt grant soon [04:53] wow [04:53] sorry [04:53] mhz: lower then expected takeup :( [04:54] mhz: I divert them to voicemail so I don't hear them complain >:) [04:54] Yagisan: i am truly sorry to hear that [04:55] mhz: it's a combination of my wifes injury (hospital fuckup), and general lack of willingness to spend cash on the part of customers [04:56] Yagisan: I have never been there yet, so I can hardly imagine how shitty this situation must be [04:56] however, I do hope better things come up [04:56] mhz: me too. I keep trying, that's why I invested so much time on http://eyagi.bpa.nu:8081/eyagi [04:57] mhz: more interest from overseas, so I'll try to capture that [05:01] mhz: like my rss feeds ? [05:02] times out [05:02] mhz: really ? damm, it works for me [05:03] mhz: of course, I'm not using apache to cache it yet [05:06] ooh [05:06] it happens many times when it's loong distance calls :) [05:08] mhz: fun times will happen tonight when I attempt to cache it with apache, and not kill my ubuntu repo. === Yagisan has a lot of research to do [05:08] mhz: did I mention that is the live machine too [05:08] ooooooooohhhhh [05:09] interesting and safer === Yagisan wonders if I can use plone for online training [05:12] Yagisan: I'd suggest Claroline, Moodle, or e-lame.org === molinero [n=molinero@201.121.147.172] has joined #edubuntu [05:12] Yagisan: I'd suggest Claroline, Moodle, or e-lane.org [05:12] mhz: thank you. [05:13] yw [05:20] Yagisan: how do i let a user run CGI ? [05:21] mhz: whuch www server, and are you sure you want to do it ? [05:21] whuch? [05:23] typo [05:23] which [05:23] mhz: or pretend I'm from new zealand, your choice [05:23] lol [05:23] :-P [05:24] Yagisan: apache2 [05:25] mhz: just a sec (I don't run cgi myself - many security issues) [05:27] mhz: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/howto/cgi.html look for user directories [05:28] okis, thx [05:29] mhz: do you know what cgi scripts are running ? [05:29] just one [05:29] moin.cgi [05:31] mhz: you will need to track security on that. cgi is most easy way to take over a www server [05:32] Yagisan: true === molinero [n=molinero@201.121.147.172] has left #edubuntu ["Abandonando"] === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu [06:27] Yagisan: have you ever kept an entire OS synced with rsync? [06:28] mhz: no - it could make a perfect clone === mhz needs to keep both desktop and laptop synced (applicactions recently installed, docs, logs, etc) [06:28] mhz: but it would also have the same ip etc [06:28] mhz: there is another app that lets you do that [06:28] oh [06:29] mhz: I forgot the name at the moment [06:29] booh [06:29] mhz: it works like a two way rsync [06:29] Yagisan: and you have used qemu? [06:30] iirc, Yagisan used quemu [06:30] qemu [06:30] mhz: yes - but not networking. qemu could not do what I wanted, so I haven't played with it for a while [06:30] but did qemu let you test .iso files? [06:31] mhz: i386 ?? yes - but it's not very fast [06:32] oh [06:32] mhz: it has a kqemu kernel modules that speeds it up, but that is not opensource === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu [06:54] bye all === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.64] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === coolio_za [n=hilton@196.44.1.98] has joined #edubuntu === jane_ [n=JaneW@dsl-146-165-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-239.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === coolio_za [n=hilton@196.44.1.98] has left #edubuntu [] === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-125-87.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === mwright1night [n=mwright1@203-214-125-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has joined #edubuntu [08:55] hello [08:55] is local devices going to happen for dapper drake [08:56] so the LTSP will be fully LTSP 4.2 compliant with the added ssh security [08:57] i think local device support it not in dapper [08:57] s/it/is/ [08:57] it wasn't high enough priority, I don't think [08:58] bummer [08:58] I guess I'll stick with FC for another release [08:58] and look towards a migration next time [09:04] mwright1night, not going to make it [09:04] will it make it for the next release post dapper? [09:05] IANAD, but I would say yes === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #edubuntu === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #edubuntu === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has left #edubuntu [] === Eghie_Work [n=Eghie@ip51cffcc4.direct-adsl.nl] has joined #edubuntu [10:50] spacey: jij had toch netbooting via Edubuntu voor elkaar? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [11:09] Eghie_Work, met pxe wel ja [11:09] wat lukt er niet dan [11:11] met netinstall? [11:12] of. wat boot je dan via PXE? [11:12] netinstall? [11:12] dat is iets anders [11:12] of boot jij een voor geinstalleerde edubuntu via PXE? [11:13] ik boot mijn thinclients via PXE [11:13] aha [11:13] ikke snap [11:14] dat wou jij ook of was je iets anders van plan? [11:14] mjah, volgens Treenaks in #ubuntu-NL kon je me wel helpen, maar denk zelf eig niet [11:15] nou ik ben bezig een school netwerk in te richten [11:15] via PXE, boot je Ubuntu netinstall en dan wordt via Kickstart geinstalleerd op de client met wat postinstall scriptjes [11:16] nu heb ik ook mirror gemaakt van de main repo van ubuntu [11:16] das iets anders idd [11:16] alleen kan de installatie modules niet downloaden vanaf de mirror, apt werkt wel [11:17] en anna geeft te weinig debug info om te kijken van wat er mis is :S [11:17] PXE werkt zelf wel [11:28] ik moet naar me werk [11:28] laters [11:28] succes [11:28] zou zeggen als het gelukt is [11:28] prop het in de wiki [11:28] :) [11:28] ben wel benieuwd [11:29] ok, zal ik doen === tatyana [n=tatyana@d5152571A.access.telenet.be] has joined #edubuntu [11:31] hi, anyone here knows if the 0000:02:00.0 Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4306 802.11b/g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 03) (detected by lspci) can work under the edubuntu kernel? [11:36] the new one wil work i think (5.10) [11:36] a friend of mine has a laptop with a broadcom WIFI card in it, and it works under Ubuntu Breezy [11:37] i have 5.10 [11:37] it will work (i think) [11:37] tatyana: it does. You may have to use ndiswrapper, but it works. [11:37] it gets detected by lspci [11:38] but... i don't get an extra network interface [11:38] crimsun, so not out of the box, any guide to make it work with ndiswrapper? (btw isn't that a pay application for windows drivers?) [11:38] tatyana: ndiswrapper is free. You're thinking of Linuxant or Driverloader [11:38] ah k [11:39] lsmod|grep ^bcm43xx [11:39] (at the console/in a Terminal) [11:40] not loaded [11:40] sudo modprobe bcm43xx [11:41] not found [11:41] FATAL: Module bcm43xx not found. [11:42] must only be in Dapper, then [11:43] :s [11:43] I think it's best not to manually recompile this kernel [11:44] any other way to make it work? [11:46] do you have the .inf file for it? [11:46] if so, you can use ndiswrapper [11:46] ehm no [11:46] you don't have Windows installed on that computer? [11:47] nopz [11:49] ok, is it currently connected to the Internet? [11:50] yes [11:50] you'll need to install linux-headers-$(uname -r), build-essential, gcc-3.4 [11:53] you'll also need to download a copy of the .inf [11:54] anything else? cause i'll do this later [11:55] are you on a 64-bit machine? [11:57] nop [11:57] ok, then you need ndiswrapper-utils, too [11:58] actually if you install ndiswrapper-utils, you won't need linux-headers-$(uname r), build-essential, or gcc-3.4 [11:59] k, so that's all i need? [12:00] installing [12:17] hmmm [12:17] can't extract the windows drivfers === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-185.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu [12:31] root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l [12:31] Installed ndis drivers: [12:31] bcmwl5a invalid driver! [12:34] I've read there are a few different .infs for it [12:35] ah k [12:35] got the right one now i think [12:36] root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -i bcmwl5.inf [12:36] Installing bcmwl5 [12:36] root@edubuntu:~# ndiswrapper -l [12:36] Installed ndis drivers: [12:36] bcmwl5 invalid driver! [12:36] that should be the correct one === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-125-87.tpgi.com.au] has joined #edubuntu [01:06] options? ideas? === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-185.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === spacey_ki [n=spacey@a82-93-13-195.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #edubuntu === DeeJay1 [i=deejay1@cg118.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #edubuntu === mwright1night [n=mwright1@203-214-125-136.dyn.iinet.net.au] has left #edubuntu [] [01:43] tatyana, ndiswrapper with broadcom 4306 no support, 4318 only [01:48] hello. I have a small question - is there a network installer for edubuntu dapper testing ? [01:50] DeeJay1, only the normal ubuntu netinstall, you have to doo all the edubuntu stuff manually ... [01:51] hmm, ok [01:52] oh, BTW I'm currently fighting with edubuntu 5.10 setting random keyboard layouts on the clients, any hints here? [01:52] seen the wiki ? [01:53] you need to set it in lts.conf [01:53] still looking at different pages there [01:53] its linked from the install notes [01:54] crap, I knew it was somewhere there [01:55] but the problem is in the "pl" layout there are some different layouts one qwerty one qwertz and one I haven't seen before [01:55] ogra: thx [01:57] mhm, is there any wway to get my broadcom 4306 working on edubuntu? (as it doesn't work with ndiswrapper) [01:57] it might work with dapper, it has the new bcm43xx driver, but dapper is not intended for day to day usage yet [01:59] ic, any idea when dapper will be released, like 'stable' === DeeJay1 [i=deejay1@cg118.internetdsl.tpnet.pl] has joined #edubuntu [02:00] sure [02:00] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperReleaseSchedule [02:01] 20th of april [02:01] ic [02:01] k [02:01] :) [02:01] thx [02:02] but it should start to be usable for normal users with the beta release ... === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu [02:11] ogra: ok, I get someone to check it (there's no internet access yet) in the worst case gnome should handle it via some sabayon setting I think [02:11] yup [02:12] there already are some custom setting for seniors there (yeah, 80 year olds learning Linux) === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === lguerra [i=lguerra@200.21.93.195] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === spacey_ [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089D42D.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:24] ogra: how are things? [03:24] busy [03:24] two days until UVF [03:29] sjoe === sankarshan is now known as sm|home === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-165-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.90] has joined #edubuntu === kjcole [n=kjcole@pchb1f.gallaudet.edu] has joined #edubuntu === azazel [n=azazel@81-174-46-248.f5.ngi.it] has joined #edubuntu === azazel [n=azazel@81-174-46-248.f5.ngi.it] has left #edubuntu ["Client] === azazel [n=azazel@81-174-46-248.f5.ngi.it] has joined #edubuntu [05:09] hi, anyone can tell me where i can find a list of the edu packages included with edubuntu? === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu [05:50] ogra: ping, please === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [05:51] morning mhz [05:51] morning === mhz is in a meeting [05:51] mhz: no worries - catch you later then [05:53] mhz, pong === azazel [n=azazel@81-174-46-248.f5.ngi.it] has left #edubuntu ["Client] === spacey [n=spacey@flits101-191.flits.rug.nl] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.64] has joined #edubuntu [06:54] hi people === jinty [n=jinty@Gbec4.g.pppool.de] has joined #edubuntu === nab [n=nab@cpc2-scun3-5-0-cust106.nott.cable.ntl.com] has joined #edubuntu === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === HiveDrone [n=HiveDron@x1-6-00-10-a7-08-8e-f7.k130.webspeed.dk] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@164.77.220.204] has joined #edubuntu [10:28] ogra: ping [10:28] mhz, sorry meeting ... [10:28] okis [11:17] ogra: ping? === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #edubuntu [11:34] Does anyone know when next edubuntu summit will take place and where?