[12:00] <zytrax> I extracted it and I have a perl script inside
[12:00] <pashaw> miky,   you said you had to type something to get it work, right?       or its completely broken?
[12:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> ompaul: an avi, but it says only mpeg1 and mpeg2 are supported
[12:00] <zytrax> when I try to execute it, it doesnt start
[12:00] <bobslaede> zytrax: did you install it?
[12:00] <zytrax> I am trying
[12:00] <miky> pashaw, i think i know why it doesn't work
[12:00] <eliasz> CanYouHelpMePlz, google how to change a avi to mpg, i belive there is a good article on gentoo-wiki, although u will have to get the applications another way, after that, it shoudl eb a breeze
[12:00] <bobslaede> oh, what does it say, any errors?
[12:00] <pashaw> miky,   think so too  :P
[12:00] <miky> i had a dsl provider which i don't neeed anymore
[12:01] <eliasz> CanYouHelpMePlz, but u will need transcode, and then when u got a mpeg, u can use k3b
[12:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eliasz: can i apt-get transcode ?
[12:01] <tonyyarusso> tony__, Ah, right.  Wasn't following.  Yeah, you could try that.  I have only SATA, and it's fine, but who knows...
[12:01] <miky> pashaw, i had to activate the card through the network connection icon
[12:01] <bobslaede> nice nick CanYouHelpMePlz ;)
[12:01] <ompaul> CanYouHelpMePlz, then you need to do what someone said which is move from one type to another - so you need transcode what ap you would use for that I do not konw
[12:01] <bimberi> CanYouHelpMePlz: yes, it's in multiverse
[12:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bobslaede: thanks
[12:01] <Keiser> CanYouHelp -> try using apt-cache search transcode
[12:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bimberi: it says i have it alrdy
[12:02] <tony__> casper-snapshot: nah! still that casper snapsot thingy..
[12:02] <eliasz> CanYouHelpMePlz, i would assume so, do an apt-cache search transcode to check
[12:02] <bluefoxicy> ompaul:  lol
[12:02] <bimberi> CanYouHelpMePlz: then you're set
[12:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eliasz: yea i have it, does it have a gui?
[12:02] <eliasz> nope
[12:02] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: http://k3b.plainblack.com/videoencoding
[12:02] <eliasz> u need to find the command line on google, idont remeber, like i said, look at the gentoo-wiki site
[12:02] <ompaul> bluefoxicy, I knew I saw it, ctrl f helped
[12:02] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: do it all from k3b
[12:02] <eliasz> or that ^
[12:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: thanks mate
[12:03] <lightbright> bimberi: hello :)
[12:03] <sagar_> i'm trying to install the package "fam" but whenever i do, ti tells me it will remove all kindso f other packages, including ubuntu-desktop!! is there a way i can supress that??
[12:03] <bimberi> hi lightbright :)
[12:03] <lightbright> bimberi:  havent seen you for ages, you been well?
[12:03] <bobslaede> you guys know what sucks? you wanna know? i'm gonna tell ya... The 17" iMac G5 from 6 months ago, doesnt run Ubuntu...
[12:03] <dooglus> sagar_: which version of ubuntu?
[12:03] <bimberi> lightbright: fair to muddling :P
[12:03] <tony__> tonyyarusso: can i fix a ubuntu install somehow. i mean it seems to be complete. i just want it to add a boot loader...
[12:04] <rabbit> hmmm   does anyone know anything about Scanners?????????
[12:04] <sagar_> dooglus: breezy
[12:04] <lightbright> bimberi: :)
[12:04] <tonyyarusso> tony__, You booted into Ubuntu now?
[12:04] <rabbit> I just installed a package of backends for sane, but scanimage still says I have the old backends!
[12:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: it appears that is for dvds
[12:04] <dooglus> rabbit: There are 4 billion people on earth. 237 are Scanners. They have the most terrifying powers ever created... and they are winning.
[12:04] <Keiser> anybody have any experience installing Ubuntu on Sparc?
[12:05] <ompaul> rabbit, have a shot at this xsane, it does scanners
[12:05] <tony__> tonyyarusso: no still running badger live . grub-installl wont run. casper snapshot for bios not found... i guess that is something specific of my new rig
[12:05] <rabbit> ompaul, not mine..  I need the "genesys" backend...
[12:05] <ompaul> rabbit, have your scanner plugged in and turned on when you install it
[12:05] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think it explains how to get k3b to understand avi
[12:06] <rabbit> ompaul,   as far as I know it's on..  and I just installed the latest sane-backends
[12:06] <tr00nd> Keiser: Ubuntu doesnt support sparc, you would have to use gentoo, debian or netbsd.
[12:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: hmm, how do i just use transcode to make an mpeg2 ?
[12:06] <rabbit> ompaul, but scanimage returns the old version!
[12:06] <Keiser> tr00nd, actually, they do.  There is a sparc boot img that you can net boot.
[12:06] <bobslaede> rabbit: check your dmesg, does it recognize it?
[12:06] <dAndy> Is there any ubuntu kickstart docs out there? I am flying blind and everything I change makes it break
[12:06] <rabbit> bobslaede, dmesg?
[12:07] <tr00nd> Keiser: Really?? Where?
[12:07] <tonyyarusso> tony__, Did you follow all of the instructions from !grub 's recover link?
[12:07] <bobslaede> rabbit: run dmesg
[12:07] <sagarp> so er, how would i install the pacakge fam without removing all the other important packages =/
[12:07] <bobslaede> rabbit: it tells you what stuff is plugged in, and what happends and stuff
[12:07] <ompaul> rabbit, sorry I have nothing more on that subject
[12:08] <cdubya> at one time when I had used evolution before, it seemed like some calendar events showed up in the calendar on the tray, but I can't seem to remember how to get that to work again. Anyone know how to get evolution to give notification for upcoming events?
[12:08] <rabbit> bobslaede,   lsusb returns: Bus 004 Device 006: ID 04a9:2213 Canon, Inc. LiDE 50/LiDE 35
[12:08] <ompaul> dAndy, the little "lifebouy" ring in the top panel is useful for figuring out what to poke at
[12:08] <bobslaede> rabbit: i didnt follow the conversation, but if you run dmesg, you can run it with 'dmesg | tail -f', plug it out, plug it in
[12:08] <pm> Stirlitz, a umiesz zrobic instalatora ff?
[12:08] <tony__> tonyyarusso: i tinhnk so. ill try now to mount the "boot/" on sda2 but that is probably not where the boot sector is?
[12:09] <bobslaede> rabbit: looks like it knows the device
[12:09] <ordinary> aaah
[12:09] <stormzzz> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=662351 <-- please help! apache seg faults =(
[12:09] <rabbit> bobslaede, what will unplugging it and plugging it in do?  I need to have the right backend installed
[12:09] <bimberi> dAndy: also there's http://help.ubuntu.com/ (particularly the Start Guide)
[12:09] <ordinary> my computer told me a malicious client may be eavesdropping on me :s
[12:09] <tonyyarusso> tony__, That all depends on how you defined things during install.
[12:09] <pm> ups, sorry, wrong number :)
[12:09] <bobslaede> rabbit: i did have a problem with a webcam once, you should check the scanner, if its supported by your kernel modules
[12:10] <bobslaede> rabbit: or if theres somekind of linux module already bilt outthere
[12:10] <dAndy> ompaul: and bimberi unfortunately, as far as I can tell, neither of those places have info about kickstarting a box
[12:10] <bobslaede> rabbit: tho, the canon scanner should work
[12:10] <rabbit> bobslaede, yeah it's been testedon breezy
[12:10] <bobslaede> rabbit: unless, you have a workstation like mine at work... doesnt work with anything
[12:10] <erUSUL> stormzzz, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash
[12:10] <bobslaede> that should be supported
[12:10] <bimberi> dAndy: kickstarting?
[12:10] <theCore> stormzzz, did you tried to install apache2-prefork ?
[12:10] <stormzzz> ok erUSUL
[12:10] <stormzzz> theCore: let me see
[12:11] <lightbright> ompaul: hello
[12:11] <bobslaede> rabbit: well... my pc at work doesnt work with anything, not even in windows
[12:11] <tony__> tonyyarusso: i guess. now i will read the menu.lst and see if any changes have been made
[12:11] <dAndy> bimberi: kickstart is the redhat unattended install system, supported in ubuntu since 5.04
[12:11] <stormzzz> apache2-prefork-dev:
[12:11] <stormzzz>   Depends: libapr0-dev (=2.0.54-5ubuntu4) but 2.0.55-3vd1 is to be installed
[12:11] <stormzzz>  Depends: libdb4.2-dev but it is not going to be installed
[12:11] <navarone> bobslaede, you must work for the government  ;)
[12:11] <stormzzz> o.O Is that broken dependencies or is it just me?
[12:11] <bobslaede> navarone: maybe i am, and nobody told me
[12:11] <Hobble> is there a guide for midi on ubuntu?
[12:12] <km0_> how can I instal for a deb package?
[12:12] <navarone> bobslaede, that's a bureaucracy for ya
[12:12] <theCore> stormzzz, try the non -dev version
[12:12] <Hobble> I'm struggling with it :(
[12:12] <km0_> *install form
[12:12] <_jason> !deb
[12:12] <bimberi> dAndy: ah yes, i'm not experienced in that sorry :|
[12:12] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[12:12] <km0_> thanks
[12:12] <Hobble> !midi
[12:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, midi is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=8736 or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MidiSoftwareSynthesisHowTo
[12:12] <bobslaede> navarone: i know... and my iMac wont run linux either...
[12:12] <dAndy> bimberi: yeah no one seems to be
[12:12] <erUSUL> !tell Hobble about midi
[12:12] <stormzzz> theCore: There isn't one! o.O
[12:12] <navarone> bobslaede, y not?
[12:12] <ubuntu> /server lxhxr.com
[12:12] <bobslaede> cus its a peace of shit machine :p
[12:13] <bimberi> !listvals kickstart
[12:13] <ubotu> Factoid search of 'kickstart' by value returned no results.
[12:13] <cdubya> bobslaede, what kinda imac?
[12:13] <navarone> bobslaede, but the'tre durn cute...<s>
[12:13] <theCore> stormzzz, where did you the info for installing apache ?
[12:13] <bimberi> dAndy: hm, neither is ubotu it appears :/
[12:13] <bobslaede> 17" iMac G5 from 6 months ago
[12:13] <bobslaede> wont run it
[12:13] <tony__> tonyyarusso: rebbot try no1
[12:13] <dooglus> sagarp: fam conflicts with gamin, which is a dependancy of a bunch of stuff
[12:13] <stormzzz> theCore: The wiki. i just did a "sudo apt-get install apache2"
[12:13] <bobslaede> navarone: hell yeah :D
[12:13] <dooglus> sagarp: so you can't install fam without removing gamin.
[12:13] <pm> i've got an important question
[12:13] <stormzzz> theCore: it WAS working, untill it asked me to upgrade a little while back
[12:13] <sagarp> dooglus, yeah =/ i noticed that now
[12:13] <sagarp> thanks though
[12:14] <kasemodz> how do i install proftpd, i tried to do apt-get install proftpd but it couldn't find the package
[12:14] <stormzzz> theCore: Then it just stopped.
[12:14] <pm> how to play videos from winamp.com on ubuntu?
[12:14] <navarone> bobslaede, did you dl the ppc iso?
[12:14] <pashaw> dAndy, did you read this   https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KickstartCompatibility?highlight=%28kickstart%29
[12:14] <theCore> stormzzz, try apache2-mpm-prefork
[12:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone help me convert an avi to mpeg2 ?
[12:14] <bobslaede> cdubya: 17" iMac G5 from 6 months ago, if you didnt get it ;)
[12:14] <bystander> !info proftpd
[12:14] <ubotu> proftpd: (Versatile, virtual-hosting FTP daemon), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 1.2.10-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 347 kB, Installed size: 1044 kB
[12:14] <bobslaede> navarone: yeah, the dvd
[12:14] <dAndy> pashaw: yep, it just doesnt cover what is and isnt supported in a ks file at all
[12:14] <dooglus> sagarp: how did you notice it?  is there an easy way to see the list of conflicts?
[12:14] <bobslaede> navarone: took me 8 freakin' hours... :(
[12:14] <navarone> bobslaede, is it personal mac or business?
[12:15] <theCore> stormzzz, and use aptitude istead of apt-get
[12:15] <bobslaede> navarone: checked the ubuntu forums, everybody with the same iMac got the same problem
[12:15] <bobslaede> navarone: "business" hehe
[12:15] <sagarp> dooglus, no, but the dependencies for the program were either fam OR gamin, and i read up on both and i guess i just assumed they conflict, lol
[12:15] <theCore> stormzzz, s/istead/instead/
[12:15] <navarone> hmm...bobslaede was thinking maybe your work somehow nixed installs...?
[12:15] <bobslaede> navarone: we needed to test our webpage in safari, so my boss bought me the iMac
[12:15] <kasemodz> how do i install proftpd, i tried to do apt-get install proftpd but it couldn't find the package. Anyone know the problem? how can i install it?
[12:16] <navarone> safari a mac browser?
[12:16] <bystander> kasemodz: it's in univverse
[12:16] <theCore> stormzzz, and read the instructions at http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07s06.html
[12:16] <bobslaede> navarone: it doesnt work for the other people on the forum either
[12:16] <bobslaede> navarone: yeah
[12:16] <stormzzz> theCore: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7225
[12:16] <bobslaede> navarone: it sucks... spend 3 days on it...
[12:16] <dooglus> sagarp: I tried using "dpkg -i" to install the fam .deb - that told me about the conflict.  I would expect "apt-cache show" to tell me, but it doesn't
[12:16] <kasemodz> bystander how do i go into universe or check in universe
[12:16] <bystander> !universe
[12:16] <navarone> is the iMac G5 supported by ubuntu...or linux in general?
[12:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:17] <sagarp> dooglus, oh well, i discovered there's a package for the program i'm trying to compile anyway so it's all good
[12:17] <dooglus> sagarp: aah, I get it...  fam doesn't mind gamin, but gamin minds fam...  "apt-cache show gamin | grep Conf" will show the conflict...
[12:17] <stormzzz> where is my source.list located, again?
[12:17] <stormzzz> sources*
[12:17] <bystander> stormzzz: /etc/apt/
[12:17] <theCore> stormzzz, remove apache2 then, run `sudo aptitude purge apache2'
[12:17] <kasemodz> i'm sorry bystander i'm still a newbiw if you don't min please explain in further detail.
[12:17] <bobslaede> navarone: it should be
[12:17] <matthewjames> can someone help me, i cant watch dvd's, totem says it can not read titile information
[12:18] <bobslaede> navarone: the powerpc64 kernel
[12:18] <bystander> kasemodz: if you read the URLs ubotu posted all will become clear :)
[12:18] <dradul> !plf
[12:18] <ubotu> well, plf is the Penguin Liberation Front, see http://wiki.ubuntu-fr.org/doc/plf, or for i386 users only
[12:18] <x999> nalioth greetings
[12:18] <theCore> stormzzz, then run `sudo aptitude update' and follow the instruction at http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07s06.html
[12:18] <ompaul> !tell matthewjames about restricted
[12:19] <kasemodz> ok thanks a lot bystander
[12:19] <bobslaede> navarone: basicly it shouldnt be a problem at all...
[12:19] <ompaul> matthewjames, note from ubotu
[12:19] <navarone> bobslaede, are you completing install only to have system hang? Or no install at all?
[12:19] <bobslaede> navarone: but for what i can find on the forums, it is... and i want ubuntu, not netBSD, which works, or something else, ubuntu is nice and easy
[12:19] <bobslaede> navarone: completed install, but it wont even work with the live image
[12:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone help me convert an avi to mpeg2 ?
[12:20] <navarone> bobslaede, yeah that's what i am seeing on forums I am reading
[12:20] <bobslaede> yeah
[12:20] <bobslaede> just freezes... think its something with the ata/ide modules
[12:20] <stormzzz> theCore: Whats in there that I need to know?
[12:20] <bystander> kasemodz: I suggest you register your nick so you can get /msg es from the bot - /msg nickserv register help
[12:21] <bobslaede> its a sata disk, so its on /dev/sda, not /dev/hda or whatever
[12:21] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, you should be able to convert it with wither ffmpeg (in the Universe repo) or mplayer (in the Multiverse repo)
[12:21] <bobslaede> navarone: and the ide modules arent loaded, i made sure of that the 3rd time
[12:21] <dAndy> so re: the kickstart problems, if anyone knows anything about why the post install doesnt seem to be able to do anything, let me know
[12:21] <bobslaede> navarone: nothing worked...
[12:21] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, I recommend you try with ffmpeg first.
[12:21] <navarone> bobslaede, did you look at the hint on suseforum?
[12:21] <bystander> kasemodz: sorry  /msg nickserv help register
[12:21] <bobslaede> navarone: yeah...
[12:22] <bobslaede> navarone: last night i got sick of it... installed macosx again... :/
[12:22] <scott_> how do I turn on an xwin server on my machine?
[12:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: whats the command i use with ffmpeg to go from avi to mpeg2 ?
[12:22] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think dvdrip will burn the avi or convert it
[12:22] <theCore> stormzzz, not much, but I install apache2 with those instruction and I never had a prob
[12:22] <stormzzz> theCore: Neither did I untill recently.
[12:23] <bobslaede> navarone: i tried everything... even called AppleCare :D but talked to some sweedish lady, didnt understand a word
[12:23] <pm> gnomefreak, how can you be a gnome freak?
[12:23] <scott_> I would like to get into my ubuntu machine using cygwin on a windows machine.  How can i enable the xwin server on the ubuntu machine?
[12:23] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlease, that depends a lot.. You need to read the manual page and the help pages at the web site http://ffmpeg.sf.net
[12:23] <pm> gnome is disgusting :/
[12:23] <navarone> did she say "bork bork" after every sentence? <s>
[12:24] <gnomefreak> pm, i use xfce more but i like gnome :)
[12:24] <MacSlow> Any clean way to get breezy equippted with the 1.0-8176 nvidia-driver?
[12:24] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i create an mpeg2 from avi using ffmpeg ?
[12:24] <pm> gnomefreak, right, xfce is a bit nicer ] 
[12:24] <gnomefreak> yes it is :)
[12:25] <majd> hello
[12:25] <majd> is there a way to make the tooltips come up right aligned (like windows) and not centered?
[12:25] <bobslaede> navarone: something like that
[12:25] <navarone> gnome's are irresistble that's why they always disappear from gardens...<s>
[12:25] <majd> because it gets REALLY annoying
[12:25] <bobslaede> navarone: 'jahh im sweedish, i help you good'
[12:25] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: I think dvdrip will burn the avi or convert it
[12:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: i have been looking and i don't see how
[12:26] <navarone> bobslaede, that's called outsourcing...sigh
[12:26] <bobslaede> navarone: yeah, haha
[12:27] <bobslaede> navarone: i'm almost on the virge of buying a PC... And i have no money.. but i need linux
[12:28] <pm> gnomefreak, what d'you think about avalon?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> i have heard of it
[12:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i create an mpeg2 from avi using ffmpeg ?
[12:29] <navarone> bobslaede, it's possible to get a decent rig if you assemble it yourself...but you need to know what you are doing obviously
[12:29] <hackmiester[LT] > very carefully
[12:29] <bobslaede> navarone: if tried it once or twice before ;)
[12:29] <toko123> how do remove items from my application starter
[12:29] <bobslaede> navarone: or 20 times...
[12:29] <bobslaede> :)
[12:29] <toko123> I want to get rid of games
[12:30] <insomnd> is it ok to add accounts to GAIM only by the "accounts.xml" file?
[12:30] <DShepherd> dapper rocks, e&bs and reggaes!!
[12:30] <bobslaede> navarone: well.. i made my pc at work... and that sucks, but thats the motherboard, worst ever
[12:30] <toko123> I'd like to get rid og gaim too
[12:30] <toko123> from the application starter
[12:30] <navarone> bobslaede, I have only been adding things to my machine..network card,soundcard,new hard drive and dvd-burner. Most recent was the heatsink/fan and chassis fans...noise from old fans was unbearable
[12:31] <bystander> CanYouHelpMePlz: avi is a container, not a codec - run the command  " file /path/to/file.avi " to see what the system thinks is your codec first
[12:31] <ompaul> DShepherd, please, don't do that without qualifing it
[12:31] <ompaul> !dapper
[12:31] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[12:31] <gnomefreak> pm what is avalon?
[12:31] <bobslaede> navarone: got my first (my parents got theire first) pc in '98, 99 i made my own
[12:31] <bobslaede> navarone: almost burned the motherboard
[12:31] <ompaul> toko123, you can use synaptic to remove each of them one at a time
[12:31] <bobslaede> navarone: i learn by mistake :p
[12:32] <navarone> my parent still have 8-track...<s>
[12:32] <pm> vista's  destop environment
[12:32] <bobslaede> the stuff i havent ruined
[12:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bystander: RIFF (little-endian) data, AVI, 640 x 272, 25.00 fps, video: DivX 5, audio: MPEG-1 Layer 3 (stereo, 32000 Hz)
[12:32] <bobslaede> navarone: lol
[12:32] <gnomefreak> nope dont want nothing to do with vista
[12:32] <bystander> CanYouHelpMePlz: divX then :)
[12:32] <bystander> CanYouHelpMePlz: with mp3 audio
[12:32] <toko123> ompaul, no i want them disk resident only I want them hidden not on the application menu
[12:32] <g-henna> hi
[12:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> bystander: i want to burn it to a VCD, but k3b only burns mpegs what do i do?
[12:33] <poncjusz> join #flirt
[12:33] <waseem> bahaha
[12:33] <g-henna> i want to build a kernel module (bcm5700) and get out a deb that is depending on kernel-image-... how can i change that so that it depends on linux-image... instead?
[12:33] <toko123> how do I find out what version of gnome I'm running ubuntu 5.10
[12:33] <ompaul> toko123, invoke "smeg" or alacarte
[12:33] <ompaul> they may just help the matter
[12:33] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: doesn't mkisofs work?
[12:34] <pm> actualy i don't hate MS but i'm not going to install vista
[12:34] <bobslaede> navarone: its quite easy tho... trial and error is the way forward
[12:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> mwe: how do i use that?
[12:34] <gnomefreak> toko123, system about gnome
[12:34] <bystander> CanYouHelpMePlz: I've never needed to do that, so I don't know - I would google " divx convert linux mpeg " or similar (maybe add ffmpeg )
[12:34] <waseem> Hi I'm having trouble getting my Samsung ML-2250 laser jet printer to work, it is connected directly through a usb port, any suggestions?
[12:34] <pm> i'll rather wait for dapper :)
[12:34] <toko123> ompaul, thanks
[12:34] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, sorry for the interruption (the joys of using Dapper ;-)
[12:34] <toko123> smeg works
[12:35] <ompaul> toko123, I do not know if that does the job across users though
[12:35] <DaDave> hi all
[12:35] <pm> dralul, what's the point of using dapper now?
[12:35] <g-henna> i mean, i installed bcm5700-source and did make-kpkg modules_image; but now i can't install the bcm5700-modules...deb because it depends on *kernel*-image, not the ubuntu *linux*-image. how do i chnage this?
[12:35] <MacSlow> majd, ehm... I guess it's setable in a themes gtkrc file where a tooltip popsup.
[12:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: i still need to either burn a vcd from my .avi or convert it to mpeg2..
[12:35] <navarone> bobslaede, my 1.2 athlon will do me a few more years...I basically just mess around....and if I upgrade I will be able to run newer games adn I'll never get anyything done...<s>
[12:35] <MacSlow> majd, But I'm just guessing here.
[12:35] <bystander> pm: helping find bugs?
[12:35] <mwe> CanYouHelpMePlz: mkisofs -o vacation.iso -Jvr -V Bobs_Vacation /home/bob/vacation2000.avi or something
[12:35] <DaDave> will ubuntu hibernate or suspend my notebook automaticly when battery is low?
[12:35] <fangorious> i'm having issues with support for files with utf8 charatcters in the name, (like bjrk). I can't get them displayed in anything (nautilus, konqueror, gnome-terminal, konsole)
[12:35] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, thry this ffmpeg -i yourvid.avi -target ntsc-svcd /tmp/svcd.mpg
[12:35] <bobslaede> navarone: :)
[12:35] <majd> MacSlow, pfft....way over my head
[12:35] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: ok thanks
[12:35] <Keyseir> Does anyone here have experience with MUDs and MUD clients?
[12:36] <toko123> gnomefreak, thanks
[12:36] <MacSlow> majd, nah... you can edit textfiles can't you?
[12:36] <davro> has anyone dual booted a sony vaio laptop VGN-A517B, just a bit unsure about partitioning has one 80g already split 50/50 out of the box
[12:36] <MacSlow> majd, nah... and to be on the save side just make a backup-copy of the file you're going to edit in case you mess it up.
[12:36] <bobslaede> why doesnt window focus follow my eyes? that would be great...
[12:36] <pm> bystander, that's the only possible reason
[12:37] <fangorious> DaDave: if you have supported hardware and have configured it to suspend or hibernate on low battery
[12:37] <MacSlow> majd, then just take good look with google :)
[12:37] <navarone> Dr.Willis you first patient is in room 223...possible disk deterioration and mild carpal tunnel...Stat
[12:37] <ompaul> bobslaede, sudo apt-get install Borg_Part_101
[12:37] <bystander> pm: not a bad one, though, for those who want to participate
[12:37] <MacSlow> majd, or try to find dedicated webforums on gtk-themeing and ask there.
[12:37] <bobslaede> ompaul: i would need some sort of webcam or something right?
[12:37] <fangorious> anyone help with UTF 8 characters not being displayed?
[12:37] <DaDave> fangorious: where can i configure that?
[12:38] <fangorious> DaDave: you running gnome or kde?
[12:38] <ompaul> bobslaede, if you wanted to you would have to do that and write the code
[12:38] <davro> run the live cd, seem to work very nice, what is the best option on the partioning installation for pre installed laptops ? the resize or manual editing!
[12:38] <pm> and for those who have  lots of time :(
[12:38] <bobslaede> ompaul: lol, really thought that was an app
[12:38] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: thanks it's encoding now
[12:38] <ompaul> bobslaede, did you read it again?
[12:38] <Keyseir> Anyone? MUDs?
[12:39] <bobslaede> ompaul: anyways... my webcam doesnt work on mac, and linux doesnt work on my mac
[12:39] <DaDave> fangorious: gnome
[12:39] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, do note that there are many options to have better quality transcoding. Read the manual page (man ffmpeg). I'd go for at leat adding  "-sameq -pass 2" and "-acodec raw" if the original sound is in mp3.
[12:39] <bobslaede> ompaul: i read it again
[12:39] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: i see, so should i stop it now?
[12:39] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, probably so, if you want good quality ;-)
[12:39] <fangorious> DaDave: I'm not sure how to set it in config files, but you could add the backports repo and use gnome-power-manager
[12:39] <sfserw> how do I connect from WinXP to ubuntu machine via ftp (both are using a dsl router)
[12:39] <navarone> fangorious perhaps you can change a setting in System/Prefernces/Fonts...maybe you need to set a font for say terminla that uses UTF-8...?
[12:40] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: ok
[12:40] <ompaul> bobslaede, when nalioth_zZ becomes nalioth_zZ without the Zs ask him about getting it running on a mac unless the box is too old
[12:40] <DaDave> fangorious: okay thanks
[12:40] <bobslaede> ompaul: i shall do that - tomorrow, i should go to sleep to... its late here
[12:40] <bobslaede> s/to/too
[12:41] <fangorious> navarone: hrm, never had to do that when the files were on an ntfs partition mounted with the 'utf8' option. it's only since i switched to an ext3 partition.
[12:41] <DaDave> BTW: Does hibernat and/or suspension realy works with ubuntu?
[12:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: i get Unknown codec 'raw'
[12:42] <fangorious> navarone: seems setting Konsole's encoding to doesn't help either. tried Unicode (utf8) and Western European
[12:42] <bystander> DaDave: depends on your hardware I guess - suspend works fine on my iBook with Breezy
[12:42] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, so ignore that entry. The sound will not change much in quality (because it will be reencoded at 200 Kbps
[12:43] <navarone> bobslaede, have you seen this thread http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=89712 <- - someone mentions changinh xorg.conf to stop graphics issues on imac
[12:43] <nvez> whats a good ftp client?
[12:43] <nvez> (gui)
[12:43] <navarone> gftp
[12:43] <bobslaede> navarone: ill check it out
[12:43] <bystander> nvez: gftp is OK - nautilus will also do ftp
[12:43] <bimberi> nvez: nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server
[12:43] <bystander> nvez: use connect to server with nautilus
[12:43] <navarone> bobslaede, look for nevc64
[12:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: where do i add those entries?
[12:43] <nvez> okay okay i got it =p
[12:44] <bystander> bimberi: :)
[12:44] <bobslaede> navarone: i read that, this one has a nvidia card
[12:44] <toko123> smeg will not let me delete where is alacarte how is it run?
[12:44] <navarone> bobslaede, ahh
[12:44] <fangorious> navarone: tried a couple fonts too, andale mono, monospace, bitstream vera sans mono, and dejavu sans mono. no luck
[12:44] <bimberi> bystander: great minds :)
[12:44] <bobslaede> navarone: yeah :(
[12:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: should it look like this? ffmpeg -i /home/pete/Stuff/Downloads/Azureus/hostel/Hostel.avi -sameq -pass 2 -target ntsc-svcd  /home/pete/Stuff/hostel.mpg
[12:44] <navarone> fangorious, was worth a shot
[12:44] <fangorious> navarone: yeah
[12:44] <bystander> bimberi: ah yes, but then "Fools never differ" ;-)
[12:45] <bystander> bimberi: although really that means "never argue " in the original I think ;)
[12:45] <DaDave> bystander: okay i will try it now. :-)
[12:45] <dradul> CanYouHelpMePlz, I was quoting from memory, the command to copy the soundtrack is "-acodec copy"
[12:45] <deefzi> how i do change my ubuntu's default web-browser from firefox to opera?
[12:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: what should my command look like please,? ffmpeg -i /home/pete/Stuff/Downloads/Azureus/hostel/Hostel.avi -sameq -pass 2 -target ntsc-svcd  /home/pete/Stuff/hostel.mpg
[12:46] <gnomefreak> deefzi, when you open opera it will ask you if you want to make it default
[12:47] <bobslaede> deefzi: somewhere in the system menu you can change whatever defaults you want
[12:47] <gnomefreak> deefzi, if it didnt ask if you go into prefferences/settings you should beable to do it from there
[12:47] <dradul> CAnYouHelpMePlz, this will work: ffmpeg -i /home/pete/Stuff/Downloads/Azureus/hostel/Hostel.avi -sameq -pass 2 -target ntsc-svcd -acodec copy  /home/pete/Stuff/hostel.mpg If you get an error about a log file not found, drop the "-pass 2" command
[12:48] <gnomefreak> also system>preffereneces>perferred apps you can set it there also
[12:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: got it working.
[12:48] <stormzzz> I fixed apache!!!
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ty bobslaede i almost forgot that one lol
[12:48] <CanYouHelpMePlz> dradul: thanks
[12:48] <Keyseir> Anyone know about Multi User Dungeon applications? I'm looking for something that allows selectively squelching incoming strings.
[12:48] <gnomefreak> stormzzz, congrats
[12:48] <dradul> CAnYouHelpMePlz, you are very welcome ;-)
[12:49] <bobslaede> well, night folks
[12:49] <bobslaede> ttyl
[12:49] <gnomefreak> night bobsa
[12:49] <gnomefreak> -a
[12:49] <bobslaede> :)
[12:49] <navarone> cya bob
[12:49] <bobslaede> night gnomefreak, night navarone
[12:49] <stormzzz> gnomefreak: Only took a week >_<
[12:49] <navarone> keep your runners on the ice
[12:49] <gnomefreak> lol stormzzz it happens
[12:50] <bobslaede> night all
[12:50] <toko123> I can't find alacarte in repos not comming up in synaptic I found this though
[12:51] <toko123> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/utils/alacarte
[12:51] <gnomefreak> !alacarte
[12:51] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[12:51] <toko123> can I gust add this url to synaptic?
[12:51] <gnomefreak> toko123, in breezy its not in the repos :)
[12:51] <deefzi> gnomefreak, didn't find.
[12:52] <gnomefreak> toko123, no you have to download the .deb than run dpkg -i file.deb
[12:52] <toko123> how do I remove games from my application menu?
[12:52] <gnomefreak> deefzi, what didnt you find?
[12:52] <Nihil85> HI! i cannot change time in Ubuntu. I enter the password, the window appears but it's empty and freezed; then i have to force the exit. Why?
[12:52] <deefzi> gnomefreak, setting opera as default-browser
[12:52] <gnomefreak> toko123, there is a menu editoer in system tools
[12:52] <gnomefreak> deefzi, where did you try?
[12:53] <deefzi> gnomefreak, i believe i checked all the menus
[12:53] <gnomefreak> under system>preff>perferred apps
[12:53] <navarone> deefzi try System/Prefernces/Preferred Applications
[12:53] <deefzi> gnomefreak, yea i know it "should" be there, since i've seen it on windows-version, but still no.
[12:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nihil85: tried restartingX ?
[12:53] <navarone> snap
[12:53] <bystander> deefzi: in gnome menus, not opera
[12:53] <deefzi> navarone, oh goodie goodie! ty!
[12:53] <gnomefreak> deefzi, are you one breezy?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> s/one/on
[12:54] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, in fact i did reboot, for the first time everything was ok. Then, all was as the same as before.
[12:54] <toko123> gnomefreak, yes I see it it's smeg but I can't delete when i right click I just get properities?
[12:54] <dradul> toko123, in breezy you already have smeg (same program as Alacarte, previous version, ugly name ;-))
[12:54] <gnomefreak> toko123, smeg will not let you delete apps just remove them from list
[12:54] <navarone> I think "smeg" is the weirdest name for a app yet...lol
[12:54] <iceraven> In the terminal server client how do I minimise the client, in the windows client there is a menu that appears when you hover the mouse at the top of the screen, this client doesn't appear to have that function.
[12:54] <bimberi> bystander: :)  (i got called away)
[12:55] <gnomefreak> smeg=simple menu editor gnome :)
[12:55] <bystander> bimberi: real life is a pain, isn't it ;-)
[12:55] <navarone> gnomefreak, I should hop so
[12:55] <toko123> how do I remove them?
[12:55] <navarone> hope*
[12:55] <gnomefreak> un tick the box toko
[12:56] <stormzzz> Now php is being kinda rubbishy >.<
[12:56] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, do you have an idea?
[12:56] <gnomefreak> i find linux easier to use than win :(
[12:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nihil85: no sorry.
[12:57] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, however, thanks
[12:57] <matthewjames> can someone help me? can u give me the pathe to where the modules should be?
[12:57] <toko123> gnomefreak, sorry I don't get it untick the box?
[12:57] <navarone> gnomefreak, yesterday windows desktop froze up on me a few times...just after booting up and left it at login window...came back and logged in and clickinmg FF icon on desktop did nada...no response from anything...very disconcerting
[12:57] <bimberi> bystander: occasionally :P
[12:57] <Nihil85> matthewjames, are you the english teacher?
[12:57] <matthewjames> lol
[12:58] <matthewjames> can u just plz give me the path?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> toko123, in smeg go to games click on it it will list the games you see the lil check marks in the lil boxes next to each game?
[12:58] <stormzzz> Fixed PHP
[12:58] <stormzzz> =_
[12:58] <stormzzz> =)
[12:58] <toko123> yes i dp see that
[12:58] <dAndy> The kickstart docs say to contact ColinWatson with questions, etc, yet I dont see anyway to contact him other than to add to his page on wiki.ubuntu, anyone know how to contact him, or find his info?
[12:58] <Nihil85> matthewjames, are you an english teacher?
[12:58] <gnomefreak> ohhhh navarone that would have made me say screw windows
[12:58] <matthewjames> no
[12:58] <hav0k> quick question, how can i resize my partition ubuntu is on?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> toko123, take the lil green check out of the box next to each game you DONT want in the menu
[12:59] <TokenBad> is pro ftpd set up for resume as default or do I need to set that up?
[12:59] <Nihil85> matthewjames, excuse me, but i knew an english teacher named Matthew James
[12:59] <Toma-> hav0k: as long as the free space is after the ubuntu partition
[12:59] <matthewjames> oh, i see, np
[12:59] <matthewjames> do u know the path to modules?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell hav0k about gparted
[12:59] <hav0k> well, i want to make my linux partition smaller.
[12:59] <hippie23> hello
[01:00] <nebular> I'm having trouble with gaim, after updating hoary I get error while loading shared libraries: libstartup-notification-1.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:00] <navarone> gnomefreak...yeak I scanned windows folder from ubuntu with aegis and is found a bunch of nasties...but none of the four virus scanners...or two online scanners find anything...lol...I did delete all my cookies though...one online scanner listed them as bad
[01:00] <Stormx2> heya hippie23
[01:00] <hav0k> can i do that?
[01:00] <nebular> any ideas as to what's going on?
[01:00] <Toma-> hav0k: should be easy enough. check out gparted. it'll make life easier
[01:00] <toko123> do I need to restart x to make it take effect
[01:00] <hippie23> does any1 know of a general chat room for ubuntu users?
[01:00] <hav0k> alright
[01:00] <gnomefreak> navarone, yuck! im glad my problem with win is easy :(
[01:00] <matthewjames> can someone plz give me the path to the modules?
[01:00] <Stormx2> hippie23: #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:00] <navarone> hippie maybe #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:00] <hav0k> i have qtparted... is gparted different?
[01:00] <hippie23> ok
[01:00] <hippie23> ty
[01:01] <deefzi> any idea how can i set my mx518's sidebuttons (left & right) for opera's back & forward -buttons?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  which modules?  try "locate .ko" ?
[01:01] <gnomefreak> hav0k, same type of app should work fine
[01:01] <navarone> gnomefreak, not really a problem...it went away...but makes one uneasy
[01:01] <Toma-> nebular: can you run "sudo apt-get install libstartup-notification0"??
[01:01] <deefzi> i don't seem to have any help from opera's settings
[01:01] <gnomefreak> navarone,  i know the feeling
[01:01] <hav0k> resize doesnt work when i use qtparted.
[01:01] <deefzi> should them be set from opera, or somewhere else?
[01:01] <Dr_Willis> deefzi,  heh i got one of those mice.. I nmever use the buttons for that fancy stuff however.
[01:01] <Toma-> hav0k: well try gparted
[01:01] <gnomefreak> deefzi, on the gnome desktop click system than click prefferece than click perferred apps
[01:01] <matthewjames> Dr_Willis: k, i just downloaded a binary file to desktop, when i run sudo apt-get install, it says no such file?
[01:02] <nebular> Toma-: I just did, I'm running the latest version
[01:02] <hav0k> alright... can i apt-get that, or is it like a download?
[01:02] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, did you cd to your Desktop?
[01:02] <navarone> deefzi are you trying mouse gestures?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  what does a binary file on the d4esktop have to do with apt-get install ?
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  i think thers somthing fundamental you are missing.
[01:02] <matthewjames> its to install the hellix player
[01:02] <Toma-> nebular: oh wow... try running "sudo ldconfig"
[01:02] <Toma-> then see if it loads
[01:02] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  and the name of the file is ?
[01:02] <matthewjames> hxplay-1.0.6.778-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin
[01:03] <gnomefreak> thats the name of the file?
[01:03] <matthewjames> yes
[01:03] <Toma-> matthewjames: run "sh hxplay-1.0.6.778-linux-2.2-libc6-gcc32-i586.bin"
[01:03] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  was there a helix player install wiki page?
[01:03] <matthewjames> k
[01:03] <gnomefreak> !helix
[01:03] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Are you on ritalin?
[01:03] <gnomefreak> nope :(
[01:03] <Toma-> !wiki Helix
[01:03] <Toma-> oic
[01:04] <rabbit> how do you set environment variables?   just   set VAR=/home/rabbit       or is it       set VAR="/home/rabbit"   ?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis, i gave up wondering on alot of questions now i just answer lol
[01:04] <matthewjames> it still says no such file
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> rabbit,  'export foo=bar'
[01:04] <Dr_Willis> matthewjames,  wat says that?
[01:04] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, did you cd Desktop?
[01:04] <Toma-> matthewjames: are you in the same directory as the file?
[01:04] <rabbit> Dr_Willis,  export?  really?
[01:04] <deefzi> Dr_Willis, yeah, when i bought mx518 when my mx300 got broken i was like "lol, who needs this useless multimedia anyway?" but when am using some other computer for web-browsing than my own, i get so confused cause there aren't back & forward keys (oh so handy...) on the mouse :>
[01:04] <matthewjames> ?
[01:05] <rabbit> Dr_Willis,  no quotes?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> matthewjames, type cd Desktop just as it is type ther
[01:05] <matthewjames> cd desktop?
[01:05] <_jason> rabbit, shouldn't matter
[01:05] <gnomefreak> e
[01:05] <matthewjames> in terminal?
[01:05] <blacks> could someone please tell me what repo azureus is in?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> capital d
[01:05] <Toma-> rabbit: do you want them to be set at each boot?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> IT SHOULD LOOK LIKE CD dESKTOP
[01:05] <rabbit> Toma- I think yeah
[01:05] <gnomefreak> DAMN
[01:05] <bystander> matthewjames: capital D - try cd ~/Desktop (if that's where it is)
[01:05] <gnomefreak> cd Desktop
[01:05] <Dr_Willis> rabbit,  depends on what you are doing. it may be worth reading a bash tutorial or 2
[01:05] <arrinmurr> blacks: just doewnload it from the azureus homepage
[01:06] <deefzi> navarone, they shouldn't be connected to mousegestures anyhow. since i've usually disabled them and i can still use the extra buttons as back & forward
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> !azureus
[01:06] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[01:06] <rabbit> Dr_Willis, it's for the sane config dir   (scanner backends/drivers)
[01:06] <gnomefreak> ty :)
[01:06] <Toma-> rabbit: at the end of /etc/bash.bashrc, add the varable, eg PATH=/lol/asl
[01:06] <blacks> thank you Dr_Willis
[01:06] <Dr_Willis> rabbit,  normally system wide variables are exported.
[01:06] <hav0k> im trying to use gparted, but it doesnt let me resize either
[01:06] <bystander> he s/cpaslock/capslock
[01:06] <tim> E: Not locked
[01:06] <tim> E: nvidia-glx:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:06] <tim> E: nvidia-glx-dev:  dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[01:07] <tim> can anyone tell me how to determine the dependencies?
[01:07] <gnomefreak> tim, are you on breezy?
[01:07] <tim> hoary
[01:07] <hav0k> Toma-, do you know why it wouldnt be letting me resize.
[01:07] <Toma-> hav0k: is it giving you an error?
[01:07] <matthewjames> ty, it works now
[01:07] <gnomefreak> its on the man page i was looking at it this am :(
[01:07] <Set> can someone tell me the command to delete an entire folder, even though there is stuff inside it?\
[01:08] <rabbit> Toma-, I think I'll put it in the one in my home dir, it's owned by me
[01:08] <Toma-> Set: rm -r
[01:08] <bystander> Set: rm -rf folder
[01:08] <rabbit> Toma-   eh?
[01:08] <Set> thx
[01:08] <gnomefreak> tim, type man apt
[01:08] <bystander> Set: but be careful :)
[01:08] <Toma-> rabbit: yeh :)
[01:08] <toko123> gnomefreak, thanks I se now
[01:08] <tim> i am trying to get my screen to a higher resolution the highest it gives me is 1024 768
[01:08] <gnomefreak> yw toko123
[01:08] <Set> bystander, don't want a space after / :p
[01:08] <majd> what's the best p2p program for ubuntu?
[01:08] <Toma-> theres no need to use the -f tag with rm. its dangerous :(
[01:08] <majd> limewire?
[01:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tim about fixres
[01:08] <tim> what is the root name again
[01:08] <bystander> Set: indeed not :)
[01:09] <nebular> Toma-: just got through sudo ldconfig, same problem
[01:09] <toko123> the problem is one needs to restart x for the changes to take effect
[01:09] <gnomefreak> tim, sudo
[01:09] <hav0k> Toma-, no, its just not letting me choose resize... like its not darkened so i can select it
[01:09] <navarone> hav0k, could you paste a screenshot of the qparted ina ction? In gparted I find that you can only resize/take up unused space if it is to the right of another partition or to the right of the one that will take unallocated space...perhaps that is what is going wrong?
[01:09] <cello_rasp> are there any text editors for gnome that support regular expression find and replace? for that matter is there anything like "flash renamer" (it allows batch renaming of files) for linux? i really can't get my head around bash programming just yet
[01:09] <Toma-> hav0k: ive never resized a partition before...
[01:09] <Keyseir> Anyone know about Multi User Dungeon applications? I'm looking for something that allows selectively squelching incoming strings.
[01:09] <gnomefreak> cello_rasp, i use anjuta for bash script
[01:09] <Toma-> nebular: thats really weird....
[01:09] <tim> sudo man apt
[01:09] <toko123> cello_rasp, gedit
[01:09] <nebular> quite
[01:10] <cello_rasp> toko123: does that support regex find and replace?
[01:10] <hav0k> navarone, alright, ill try that.
[01:10] <navarone> hav0k, paste in pastebin
[01:10] <toko123> yes
[01:10] <toko123> cello_rasp, yes
[01:10] <Toma-> nebular: can u plz paste me (in private if its more than 1 line) the contents of /etc/ld.so.conf ???
[01:10] <gnomefreak> tim,  no sudo and in terminal type man apt
[01:10] <majd> i can't use .rpm right?
[01:10] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tim about apt
[01:10] <_jason> cello_rasp, vim, for rename use the rename command
[01:11] <bobbyd> hi
[01:11] <hav0k> okay... wait, ive used pastebin before, but i dont know how to get to it
[01:11] <navarone> !pastebin
[01:11] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:11] <bystander> majd: you can if you convert them with "alien"
[01:11] <cello_rasp> toko123: if there are any guides on how to get that working i would be grateful... gedit doesn't seem to do so
[01:11] <bobbyd> can any wifi card be put into ad-hoc mode under linux?
[01:11] <Toma-> majd: you can, but its not the best method. you need to convert it to a deb with the "alien" command that you'll need to get from apt-get
[01:11] <hav0k> !pastebin
[01:11] <bystander> majd: but alien doesn't always work
[01:11] <toko123> cello_rasp, but gedit does have a file size limitation
[01:11] <majd> ah screw iyt
[01:11] <rabbit> Toma-   echo $SANE_CONFIG_DIR     does nothing, do I have to reboot for it to be effective?
[01:11] <hav0k> okay
[01:11] <majd> i was tryin to install limewire
[01:11] <tony__> pls need help. boot -nightmare live tonight! have two breezy partitions. one old on a ide disk and a new install alone on a sata. disk manager identifies sda1 as my /boot axess path. on startup i get error 17 (i think =file not found) pls if i give u my harware specs could u see whats wrong in my menu.lst -i cant figure it out
[01:11] <gnomefreak> vim and emacs dont :)
[01:11] <toko123> sed is quite east to use
[01:11] <bystander> bimberi: hush :)
[01:11] <cello_rasp> _jason: haha vim is a nightmare of a UI
[01:11] <Toma-> rabbit: you need to start a new bash, iirc.
[01:11] <_jason> cello_rasp, not true :/
[01:11] <Toma-> so yeh, reboot
[01:12] <bystander> bimberi: I'm an innocent bystander ;)
[01:12] <bimberi> bystander: yeah right :P
[01:12] <rabbit> Toma-   oh yeah..  it's there : )
[01:12] <_jason> cello_rasp, force yourself to use it for a week then come back and thank me :P
[01:12] <Toma-> ;D
[01:12] <bystander> bimberi: :P
[01:12] <cello_rasp> _jason: explain "forcing yourself" :D
[01:12] <hav0k> alright, i posted the screenshot
[01:13] <navarone> hav0k, url please
[01:13] <hav0k> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7227
[01:13] <toko123> cello_rasp, check this out....http://www.student.northpark.edu/pemente/sed/sed1line.txt
[01:13] <cello_rasp> linux should not be about pain !
[01:13] <hav0k> sorry, i havent really used pastebin much
[01:13] <_jason> cello_rasp, when you need to edit something, use vim don't use gedit or something else you are more comfortable with.  Of course run 'vimtutor' once so you can actually edit
[01:13] <Toma-> hav0k: youve got no free space to resize to...
[01:13] <bystander> nut I didn't cover my tracks very carefully <grin>
[01:14] <wastrel> <3 vim
[01:14] <toko123> cello_rasp, no pain no gain
[01:14] <hav0k> Toma-, i want to make my ext3 part smaller though
[01:14] <wastrel> nvi is good too
[01:14] <hav0k> can i not do that?
[01:14] <Toma-> ahh i c
[01:15] <mwe> hav0k: I think gparted can do it. not while it's mounted though
[01:15] <navarone> havoK maybe you cannot resize because the partition is mounted?
[01:15] <hav0k> cause it's huge, and i want to put all my music on my ntfs part so i can listen to it in both windows and linux
[01:15] <hav0k> but if i unmount it, wouldnt that mean i couldnt use linux anymore?  i mean, i think that's right
[01:15] <thoreauputic> bimberi: my cover is blown ;-)
[01:15] <mwe> hav0k: you need a live cd
[01:15] <gnomefreak> that was u?
[01:15] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:15] <hav0k> well lucky me, i already have one
[01:16] <Toma-> hav0k: you might wanna try using a live-cd, like knoppix or ubuntu live to resize
[01:16] <mwe> hav0k: you can't unmount the root file system
[01:16] <hav0k> yeah, that's what i thought
[01:16] <navarone> havok...if I were you I would create a fat32 partition...then you can share and also add files to the fat32 partition from linux...you can't write to ntfa
[01:16] <sklav> anybody know a repo that is working for freevo package?
[01:16] <bimberi> thoreauputic: lol - self inflicted
[01:16] <hav0k> alright, so i just need to boot up the live cd, but will gparted be on it?  wait, i think my knopix cd has qtparted on it.
[01:16] <cello_rasp> toko123: help me out with gedit here : "The text "/\nguff/" was not found."
[01:17] <thoreauputic> bimberi: yes - fortunately I was expecting you or someone to notice - and I did know "real name" was set the same - no worries :)
[01:17] <mwe> hav0k: yeah. it always makes the window way way to big to fit the desktop for me though
[01:17] <gnomefreak> navarone, you can but i wouldnt and most of the rest will agree :(
[01:17] <hav0k> navarone, that sounds rather complicated... but if i were to do that, i would just take the 15 or so gb and make that fat32
[01:17] <mwe> hav0k: but I think you can manage
[01:17] <jbzz> hav0k:   you DO have a backup of your partition?
[01:17] <navarone> gnomefreak disagree with what?
[01:17] <gnomefreak> you can write to ntfs
[01:17] <hav0k> i can make a back up... i have a nice external that would work for some backing up
[01:17] <navarone> I never said you could
[01:17] <gnomefreak> just not advisable
[01:18] <rabbit> how do you remove a symbolic link??
[01:18] <Toma-> rabbit: rm
[01:18] <bimberi> thoreauputic: btw i did phrase my /me so as not to give it away
[01:18] <mwe> you can write to ntfs from linux but not safely
[01:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> whats the command to see if a specific process is running?
[01:18] <gnomefreak> ps
[01:18] <Toma-> CanYouHelpMePlz: ps aux
[01:18] <jbzz> hav0k:  whenever you attempt a change like this it is best to have a good backup before beginning.
[01:18] <rabbit> Toma-  I thought there was something special..   it won't delete the file?
[01:18] <navarone> gnomefreak I suggested he create a fat32 so he could safely write to it from linux
[01:18] <rabbit> Toma-  I want to delete the link but NOT the file
[01:18] <Toma-> rabbit: itll delete the link, not the file its linked to
[01:19] <gnomefreak> navarone, that i agree with 100% but you said that you couldnt write to ntfs
[01:19] <sklav> navarone, ntfs writing is pretty stable in the 2.6 kernel
[01:19] <toko123> cello_rasp, what are you trying to match is a guff after a newline?
[01:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone here use the NO-IP.org updater client?
[01:19] <hav0k> alright... so ill back up, boot from the live cd, make the partition smaller, and then make a fat32 15 gig partition.  that's the basic plan?
[01:19] <rabbit> Toma-   okay, that's what I want, thanks
[01:19] <hav0k> if i followed everything right
[01:19] <sklav> its not even listed as experimental anymore
[01:19] <Syco54645> what pin priority should i use if i dont want wine to upgrade ever?
[01:19] <thoreauputic> bimberi: I saw - but anyway it's not important - just felt like observing for a while (but I can never seem to lurk and keep quiet !)
[01:19] <cello_rasp> toko123: that's right. I don't have any gedit plugins installed either..
[01:19] <gnomefreak> sklav, not from what i heard its not they are supossed to be making it safer in dapper though :)
[01:19] <jbzz> hav0k:  sounds right to me.  Also, take your time.
[01:19] <cello_rasp> toko123: it seems every program has a different way of handling regex patterns
[01:19] <aTypical> OK.  I've decided Ubuntu is pretty nice and I'm going to stick with it for a while.
[01:19] <navarone> gnomefreak...most people say that it is not advisable...whether possible I do not know
[01:20] <hav0k> oh, i will
[01:20] <sklav> well i dont use windows on this system im using samba instead but i will take your word for it
[01:20] <hav0k> so basically, i just need to copy my / to my external?
[01:20] <hav0k> ive never acually backed up anything before.
[01:20] <Toma-> !backup
[01:20] <ubotu> Toma-: Syntax error in line 1
[01:20] <Toma-> damn u bot
[01:20] <gnomefreak> sklav, thats what i heard one day i dont know how true it will be or is
[01:21] <hav0k> Toma-, can i not just copy all the files?
[01:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone here use the NO-IP.org updater client?
[01:21] <sklav> when unsure say yes
[01:21] <sklav> i will agree it might be unstable
[01:21] <toko123> cello_rasp, and what do you want to replace the match with
[01:21] <Toma-> hav0k: you need to make sure the permiaaions are copied, and dont copy /sys or /proc, or /media
[01:21] <jbzz> hav0k: I would make a 'tar' ... that is: use the tar command to create a backup file.
[01:21] <Toma-> (if anything is mounted)
[01:21] <cello_rasp> toko123: i'm just trying a find..
[01:21] <gnomefreak> if i wanted to mount an ntfs partion i would reboot to windows
[01:21] <navarone> havok you may have to reinstall grub after resizing as well...I did when I resized
[01:21] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:22] <hav0k> jbzz, alright, so just go click on the file system and say do tar
[01:22] <sklav> gnomefreak, as a side note 2 years ago i used the ntfs system without issues even writing to it
[01:22] <sklav> so it might be somewhat more stable today
[01:22] <gnomefreak> it maybe i only mount the fs im using :)
[01:22] <toko123> grep -n guff file.dat
[01:23] <toko123> cello_rasp, grep -n guff file.dat
[01:23] <jbzz> hav0k:  No sir.  Maybe you should investigate the tar command first.    man  tar
[01:23] <sklav> anybody know of a freevo ubuntu package?
[01:23] <hav0k> hahaha
[01:23] <hav0k> okay
[01:23] <cello_rasp> toko123: hah, so much for gedit.
[01:23] <sklav> gnomefreak, where is the fun in that
[01:23] <sklav> ;)
[01:23] <cello_rasp> toko123: but thanks for the help
[01:23] <gnomefreak> lol i get to have time to play :)
[01:24] <gnomefreak> !info freevo
[01:24] <navarone> gnomefreak, me too...I once had so many issues I needed a magazine rack
[01:24] <Toma-> hav0k: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81311.html
[01:24] <hav0k> thanks
[01:24] <Toma-> np
[01:25] <greg__> ?
[01:25] <gnomefreak> sklav, i have all repos enabled and than some and freevo is not in any accourding to apt-cache search
[01:25] <toko123> cello_rasp, I'm not real familiar with regex. when i need to find and replace I generally use sed but to find a match only I would use grep
[01:25] <navarone> what is freevo?
[01:25] <Toma-> hav0k: also, as the page says, dont burn anything onto dvd thats bigger than 2gb, if you want to backup onto dvd/cd :D
[01:25] <sklav> gnomefreak, i searched also i was looking for a standalone repo
[01:26] <Toma-> its like tivo, but its free/gpl
[01:26] <navarone> gnomefreak, so much to keeping issues toa  minimunm...lol
[01:26] <sklav> freevo is a pvr system more or less like windows media center
[01:26] <gnomefreak> lol navarone
[01:26] <navarone> ok
[01:26] <jbzz> hav0k:   something like            tar  -cvipzf   mybackup.tar.gz  -C /   .                 but you must decide exactly what you want to change there  (note the trailing period)
[01:26] <toko123> I'd spend a little time reading about it and if you have questions go to the sed channel
[01:26] <joshb> does anyone know how to install and conifgure vnc as a server client?
[01:26] <gnomefreak> none of my repos ever gave me a bit of trouble
[01:26] <navarone> sklav is that like mythtv...or is that something totally diff?
[01:26] <[Kismet] > Hi all i have trouble to use my ubuntu as router between 2 private network...
[01:27] <[Kismet] > ...anyone can help me?
[01:27] <Toma-> i h8 mythtv >:|
[01:27] <Syco54645> anyone out there good with pinning?  i cant seem to get it to work and when i follow the guide it yells about my priority
[01:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> joshb: As a server or as a client?
[01:27] <mwe> !vnc
[01:27] <ubotu> it has been said that vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[01:27] <sklav> its like myth tv
[01:27] <thoreauputic> joshb: vnc is installed by default ( see terminal server in the menus  i think)
[01:27] <navarone> Syco54645, what is pinning exactly?
[01:27] <joshb> i have vnc on my windows machine and i want to take hold of my linux machine using vnc with my windows machine
[01:28] <Syco54645> navarone: it is keeping a certain version of an app from being replaced with an upgrade... in my case wine
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  go for it. :P
[01:28] <sklav> my opinion of pinning is X rated ;)
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  i do that all the time
[01:28] <toko123> [kismet] : ipkungfu
[01:28] <jbzz> hav0k:  also the name ofyour backup filr should place the file on your external drive so maybe      /hdd1/mybackup.tar.gz    or similar would be appropriate
[01:28] <joshb> i can't find it under any of the menus
[01:28] <navarone> Syco54645, still no idea wht it is so I don't think I can help
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  run the vncserver command from the shell
[01:28] <thoreauputic> joshb: I'm not in gnome at the moment but the app should be there - under internet IIRC
[01:29] <gnomefreak> <<in gnome
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  or there is some desktop shareing featiure of gnome.
[01:29] <Syco54645> navarone: oh well someone is bound to help eventually.  thanks anyways
[01:29] <gnomefreak> what is iirc though?
[01:29] <joshb> ok i'll look is the command something like ./vncserver?
[01:29] <thoreauputic> joshb: yes, terminal server client
[01:29] <[Kismet] > toko123,  are you joking?
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  i tend to use vnc4server    and dont share the common desktop.
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  close.. :P no ./
[01:29] <Syco54645> gnomefreak: if i recall?
[01:29] <joshb> oh ok cool
[01:29] <navarone> gnomefreak I've often wondered what iirc was but was afraid to ask...lol
[01:29] <gnomefreak> lol
[01:29] <thoreauputic> joshb: tsclient
[01:29] <lysis> what's going on guys?
[01:29] <nbcthreat> Am I right that mplayer is missing from the multi/universe repos right now?
[01:29] <Syco54645> navarone: it is if i recall
[01:30] <toko123> kismet no
[01:30] <gnomefreak> it is what?
[01:30] <Linfanguin> how can i make my built in media reader work? im using ubuntu but is not working
[01:30] <navarone> okie
[01:30] <_jason> nbcthreat, no
[01:30] <gnomefreak> if i recall
[01:30] <toko123> google ipkungfu
[01:30] <gnomefreak> duh
[01:30] <Toma-> iirc = if i remember correctly
[01:30] <_jason> nbcthreat, it is in multiverse, check your repos
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> joshb,  also there was a little bug with vnc and the 'fonts fixed' stuff.. if ya have that issue - check the ubuntu forums (search for vnc font fixed) for the fix
[01:30] <gnomefreak> omg i feel so stupid now
[01:30] <hav0k> Toma- and navarone and jbzz, thanks alot guys, this is the first time anyone's actually helped in here
[01:30] <_jason> ubotu, tell nbcthreat about mplayer
[01:30] <Linfanguin> and also is there a properties program to fine tune the lcd color contrast etc.?
[01:30] <Syco54645> Toma-: well that works too... steeling my leet skillz!!!!!!!
[01:30] <joshb> ok thanks
[01:30] <navarone> gnomefreak, apply more cream
[01:30] <nbcthreat> I followed the instructions in the wiki
[01:30] <Toma-> hav0k: i cant help everyone with a question <:)
[01:30] <Xnos> how can i split a mpg file
[01:31] <Xnos> ?
[01:31] <nbcthreat> did an apt-get update
[01:31] <jbzz> hav0k:  hope you are successful.  Good luck.
[01:31] <thoreauputic> joshb: the server is called vino I think
[01:31] <nbcthreat> and all that shows up is the mozilla plugin.
[01:31] <toko123> I've been using it for over three years as a router with port forwarding
[01:31] <sklav> be back
[01:31] <Toma-> Xnos: i think the 'split' command would work with mpeg...
[01:31] <toko123> ipkungfu rocks
[01:31] <joshb> ok
[01:32] <_jason> nbcthreat, please post the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[01:32] <jhenn> anyone know the wiki site for recommendations?
[01:32] <_jason> ubotu, tell nbcthreat about pastebin
[01:32] <_jason> jhenn, recommendations concerning?
[01:32] <Xnos> Toma-, what is the sintax...
[01:32] <nbcthreat> right doing now.
[01:32] <Toma-> Xnos: 'man split'
[01:32] <jhenn> _jason: suggested features for ubuntu
[01:33] <lysis> jhenn, you mean what are the features that ubuntu has?
[01:33] <jbzz> hav0k:   You could make a 'junk' partition somewhere and practice resizing that before taking on your important partition.
[01:33] <jhenn> lysis: no there is a site where you can add featueres you want
[01:33] <Xnos> Toma-, man split file1.mpg and the number of parts?
[01:33] <nbcthreat> posted
[01:33] <jhenn> lysis: a wiki page
[01:33] <hav0k> jbzz, i dont have any spare space...
[01:33] <joshb> Dr_Willis: i'm in a terminal right now what do i have to do to start the server part of vnc?
[01:33] <toko123> [kismet] :http://www.linuxkungfu.org/
[01:33] <lysis> ahh.  did you try http://wiki.ubuntu.com ?
[01:33] <Toma-> Xnos: no, run 'man split' to find out how to use it
[01:33] <hav0k> jbzz, to make a junk partition
[01:33] <[Kismet] > toko123, ok :)
[01:33] <jbzz> hav0k:  Understood.
[01:34] <thoreauputic> Xnos: no he's suggesting you consult the manual :) man split ;-)
[01:34] <nbcthreat> added the mirrormax ones just now in an attempt to get it working.
[01:34] <Xnos> Toma-, ok thanks a lot
[01:34] <nbcthreat> n ohelp
[01:34] <jhenn> lysis: can't find it
[01:34] <hav0k> jbzz, but im not too worried, i mean, i have everything, like my music and stuff backed up already on my external, so if worst comes to worst, i can just reinstall ubuntu
[01:34] <Xnos> thoreauputic,  thanks man
[01:34] <Toma-> Xnos: np. should work IF the mpeg isnt compressed
[01:34] <navarone> hav0k, I will post a screenshot of gparted with my partitions listed...give you a reference for possible consideration
[01:34] <_jason> ubotu, tell jhenn about suggestions
[01:34] <hav0k> alright
[01:34] <jbzz> hav0k:  Understood.  Good luck.
[01:34] <lysis> jhenn, there's definitely stuff all over the forums.  www.ubuntuforums.org   i don't know where exactly, but there are threads asking for suggestions.
[01:34] <hav0k> thanks guys
[01:34] <lysis> nbcthreat, what are you trying to do?
[01:35] <nbcthreat> get mplayer
[01:35] <nbcthreat> uncommented universe, multiverse, did an apt-get update
[01:35] <lysis> nbcthreat, have you updated all of your repositories?
[01:35] <lysis> nbcthreat, did it come back with an error after you did the apt-get update?
[01:35] <nbcthreat> apt-cache search mplayer spits out mozilla-mplayer and mga-vid source only
[01:35] <nbcthreat> nope
[01:35] <nbcthreat> no errors
[01:35] <nbcthreat> clean update
[01:35] <_jason> nbcthreat, we need a url, sorry if I missed it
[01:35] <matthewjames> hey, is there a audio player that supports .pls?
[01:35] <Toma-> matthewjames: xmms supports pls
[01:36] <matthewjames> link plz?
[01:36] <nbcthreat> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7228
[01:36] <jhenn> _jason: thats nto what im looking for
[01:36] <Toma-> matthewjames: "sudo apt-get install xmms"
[01:36] <matthewjames> ty
[01:36] <rollerbob> hi, i want to use SU instead of sudo (i dont like having to type sudo everytime i apt) what should i do?
[01:37] <matthewjames> ty toma
[01:37] <Toma-> np
[01:37] <_jason> nbcthreat, comment mirrormax and add " multiverse" to the end of lines 19,20,35 and 36
[01:37] <Toma-> rollerbob: you'd rather su, password, apt-get blah, exit ?
[01:37] <joshb> does anyone know the command to use to start the service for vnc so that one can connect to the station i'm on remotely?
[01:37] <wastrel> vncserver &   ?
[01:37] <rollerbob> Toma-: yeah
[01:37] <nbcthreat> ok
[01:37] <nbcthreat> executing
[01:38] <hav0k> that forum thing on backing up was really helpfull... i surely would have screwed that up
[01:38] <lysis> nbcthreat, i just pm'd you showing you all of the search results i get.  would you like my repositories?
[01:38] <_jason> jhenn, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UsabilityWishlist?highlight=%28usability%29 ?
[01:38] <nbcthreat> yes
[01:38] <Toma-> rollerbob: why not just press up then change the package you want to install?
[01:38] <ktogias> rollerbob, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[01:38] <nbcthreat> thanks
[01:38] <navarone> hav0k, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7229 <-- weird I didn't know I had a boot partition...lol
[01:38] <lysis> i'm going to PM them to you
[01:39] <hav0k> wow, how do you read that black font
[01:39] <navarone> I like the dark colours...easy on my eyes
[01:39] <brasko> OK, I've been using ubuntu for the short time now, and almost everything is setup perfectly. I do have one question, how can I bind arbitrary keys to arbitrary commands?
[01:39] <nbcthreat> doing apt-get update now
[01:39] <clandestino> I have a problem with dpkg. I'm trying to install new packages by marking them as hold with dpkg --set-selections and then running apt-get deselect-upgrade. But the packages don't seem to get marked. Can anybody help me?
[01:39] <hav0k> oh wow, i can barely read it
[01:39] <jhenn> _jason: can you msg that link to me?
[01:39] <nbcthreat> that did it
[01:39] <nbcthreat> _jason. that was the fix.
[01:40] <_jason> jhenn, I can.... can I ask why?
[01:40] <TokenBad> how do you stop and restart proftpd?
[01:40] <jhenn> _jason: can't copy it in console
[01:40] <navarone> lol...hav0k yeah the words can be invisible until you highlight them...but I don't mind
[01:40] <hav0k> navarone, are you on a desktop?  with two a bunch of drives?
[01:40] <lysis> nbcthreat, got everything ok?
[01:40] <nbcthreat> I think that did it
[01:40] <_jason> jhenn, highlight and then paste doesn't work?
[01:40] <lysis> TokenBad, did you type in 'man proftpd' to console?   it will usually have switches for you.
[01:40] <_jason> jhenn, with middle click that is
[01:40] <gilligan_> hi
[01:41] <jhenn> _jason: thats not what im looking for either
[01:41] <lysis> jhenn, what are you using? XChat?
[01:41] <navarone> hav0k, yes...I have two drives actually...this is from secondary drive with ubuntu and storage for windows
[01:41] <hav0k> navarone, so your linux is the last one?
[01:41] <lysis> gilligan_, hi.
[01:41] <nbcthreat> yep
[01:41] <jhenn> lysis: irssi in a terminal emulator
[01:41] <_jason> jhenn, lol I don't know then, you are either going to have to be more specific or search yourself
[01:41] <nbcthreat> installing mplayer-586 now
[01:41] <navarone> hav0k yes
[01:41] <nbcthreat> thanks for the help guys.
[01:41] <almir> oi
[01:41] <jhenn> _jason: if i find it i will let you know
[01:41] <almir> hello
[01:41] <_jason> jhenn, k
[01:41] <lysis> jhenn, there's no official "add this to the list and we will make it happen" list . . .     there are several places that the developers check for requests though.
[01:41] <almir> hablas espaol??
[01:41] <_jason> !es
[01:41] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:42] <almir> hi
[01:42] <almir> alguna persona hablas espaol???
[01:42] <navarone> hav0k the last one is the boot partition that I did not make and never knew was there...11gb...<ouch> and then from right is swap and ubuntu's "/"
[01:42] <lysis> _jason, i was about to whip out my spanish translator   *laughs*
[01:42] <almir> vo se fude
[01:42] <lysis> almir, #ubuntu-es
[01:42] <almir> seus idiotas
[01:42] <lysis> chingate
[01:42] <almir> vo toma no cu!!hahahahahaaa
[01:42] <_jason> almir, .......
[01:42] <eugman> Hey I have a program that should be showing up in accessories but it isn't. Where would I go to run it?
[01:42] <_jason> almir, we understand you... shutup
[01:42] <Toma-> ok....................
[01:42] <eugman> in /usr/bin/ ?
[01:43] <almir> o q qfoi???
[01:43] <almir> idiotha
[01:43] <_jason> !ops
[01:43] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[01:43] <almir> shup mi picles
[01:43] <Unity> does anyone know a tool that can save 32-bit windows bitmaps? photoshop cs messes up on the alpha channel it seems
[01:43] <navarone> I think almir wants some pickles...?
[01:43] <Unity> and the gimp complains that bitmaps cannot handle alpha
[01:43] <Amaranth> _jason: yes?
[01:43] <_jason> Amaranth, almir, scroll up 10 lines
[01:43] <almir> hahahahhaa
[01:43] <almir> jajajajaja
[01:43] <almir> hihihihihhihihihhi
[01:43] <hav0k> alright, well i started to back up and realized i had my external connected and it started adding all the stuff off of the external.
[01:43] <hav0k> that's not good.
[01:43] <lysis> almir, bien venido los estados unitos.
[01:44] <almir> wath????????????????/
[01:44] <Toma-> Unity: i didnt know bitmaps could handle alpha
[01:44] <almir> hola
[01:44] <Toma-> !ops
[01:44] <ubotu> Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, johndarkhorse or nalioth.
[01:44] <almir> hablas espaol
[01:44] <Amaranth> almir: This is an english channel.
[01:44] <almir> gracias
[01:44] <Amaranth> Toma-: ...
[01:44] <lysis> tu hable ingles.
[01:44] <Amaranth> !es
[01:44] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:44] <almir> I no speak inglish
[01:44] <almir> solamente espaol
[01:44] <Toma-> hes trolling
[01:44] <lysis> tu hables ingles!
[01:44] <almir> y portuguese
[01:44] <wastrel> usen
[01:44] <Stefanus> dkdkd
[01:44] <wastrel> is that the right word?
[01:44] <almir> no baby
[01:44] <wastrel> it's just use with an 'n' at the end
[01:44] <skon> How do I change the PKG_CONFIG_PATH? Anyone konw?
[01:44] <lysis> hispanohablantes #ubuntu-es
[01:45] <gnudreamer> is there a quik way to restore my kernel to a functional state without loosing data on my harddrive?
[01:45] <eugman> Dangit applauncher isn't showing up in the applications menu. Any idea how to access it ?
[01:45] <lysis> gnudreamer, what happened?
[01:45] <navarone> eugman try alt-f2
[01:45] <wastrel> what's applauncher?
[01:45] <Amaranth> what's the language code for portuguese?
[01:45] <_jason> Amaranth, pt
[01:45] <Amaranth> thoreauputic: ...
[01:45] <lysis> thanks thoreauputic.
[01:45] <Amaranth> too late now
[01:45] <Stefanus> hello
[01:45] <Unity> Toma-: then what is an uncompressed 32-bit image format?
[01:45] <navarone> or br for Brazil
[01:45] <Amaranth> i mean, hey, we don't actually need to _help_ people
[01:45] <Stefanus> i am gay
[01:45] <thoreauputic> Amaranth: he was being delibertely disruptive
[01:46] <Amaranth> Stefanus: We don't need to know that.
[01:46] <Toma-> Unity: no idea...
[01:46] <_jason> Amaranth, he understood, he was basically mocking us in spanish after he thought no one would understand him
[01:46] <gnudreamer> i was playing an online game and my system froze, it now takes at least a half an hour to reboot, rom drives arent showing up ...everything is acting very weird
[01:46] <lysis> that he was.  he called us all idiots . . .
[01:46] <lysis> Amaranth, we do now! =)
[01:46] <lysis> enjoy packing friend.
[01:46] <thingfish> amaranth is a nutritious herb.
[01:46] <lysis> gnudreamer, are you sure that it's a kernel problem? sounds like something SERIOUS happened with your hardware.
[01:47] <joshb> anyone know how to start the server part of vnc?
[01:47] <skon> joshb: vncserver
[01:47] <lysis> vncserver start   ?
[01:47] <Amaranth> thingfish: roughly translated it also means "Forever Ranting" in hindi, i've been told
[01:47] <gnudreamer> I dont know, i wonder if I had an attack
[01:47] <thingfish> hehe amaranth
[01:47] <lysis> gnudreamer, do you have any other operating systems on the drive, or just ubuntu?
[01:47] <gnudreamer> not on this system
[01:47] <thingfish> I've eaten lamb's quarters, a variety of amaranth.
[01:47] <joshb> i typed that into a shell and it said it was a bad command
[01:47] <lysis> gnudreamer, do you have any LIVE CD distros?
[01:47] <thingfish> It's way better than spinach, even.
[01:48] <lysis> joshb, are you sure you have vncserver on your system? =)
[01:48] <gnudreamer> no, I havet used any on this since I reformated and installed ubuntu
[01:48] <joshb> i thought so
[01:48] <joshb> maybe i don't
[01:48] <lysis> joshb, check.  apt-get install vncserver
[01:48] <joshb> i thought it was supposed to be built in
[01:48] <gnudreamer> The systme was very stable for over two weeks
[01:48] <lysis> gnudreamer, why don't you boot off of a live cd and let us know if it takes just as long.
[01:48] <lysis> joshb, vncserver is not built-in.
[01:49] <lysis> it's available through repositories though.
[01:49] <eugman> navarone thanks. Apparently app launcher is the program I actually needed to install.
[01:49] <eugman> er isn't
[01:49] <joshb> so that apt-get install vncserver are there spaces in there anywhere?
[01:49] <gnudreamer> The only live distro I have is dsl 2.0
[01:49] <ki4ikl> can some one help me with the wrt54g linksys router
[01:49] <eugman> Anyone know how to make a program auto launch upon start?
[01:49] <gnudreamer> should i try it
[01:49] <gnudreamer> ?
[01:49] <muszek> hi
[01:50] <_jason> eugman, system ->prefs -> sessions: startup
[01:50] <ki4ikl> Does anyone know anything about the linksys router i am talking about?
[01:50] <muszek> anyone "fluent" with terms of GPL license?  I have a short question
[01:50] <lysis> joshb, you typed it properly
[01:50] <gnudreamer> i will ry that be back in a half hour
[01:50] <lysis> see you soon gnudreamer
[01:50] <gnudreamer> y
[01:50] <gnudreamer> ty
[01:51] <skon> How do I change the PKG_CONFIG_PATH?
[01:51] <ki4ikl> *facepalms*
[01:51] <matthew_w> Hey - I have a broken package in Synaptic that I SIMPLY CAN'T uninstall!  Is there any way to FORCE it to excoriate itself from my machine?
[01:51] <joshb> ok it typed that in and i got - E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[01:51] <joshb> any ideas
[01:51] <Toma-> skon: export PKG_CONFIG_PATH=/wherever/your/heart/desires
[01:51] <skon> Toma, thanks I'l try
[01:51] <Toma-> joshb: use 'sudo apt-get whatever'
[01:52] <eugman> thanks jason
[01:52] <Toma-> no just 'apt-get whatever'
[01:52] <joshb> ok
[01:52] <vindicta> i need some help mapping a network drive
[01:52] <lysis> Toma-, that's wrong.
[01:52] <Toma-> lysis: oh?
[01:52] <ki4ikl> Can anyone help me with the logitech quick cam, wont work at all
[01:52] <lysis> joshb, make sure you're doing apt-get with sudo
[01:52] <Stewart4071> hi - I've just installed Ubuntu - but it's Hoary Hedgehog... is there a way to upgrade to the latest version (stable) through command line?  Is it just $dist-upgrade ?
[01:52] <Toma-> ahhhh
[01:52] <lysis> Toma-, if you type "apt-get vncserver" you will not install vncserver.
[01:52] <thoreauputic> !breezy
[01:52] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[01:52] <joshb> so now what is the command?
[01:52] <lysis> Toma-, you need to give it the 'install' switch. =)
[01:52] <Toma-> "not just apt-get whatever"
[01:53] <Toma-> i forgot the t
[01:53] <lysis> joshb, "sudo apt-get install vncserver"
[01:53] <Toma-> lysis: what if hes trying to remove?
[01:53] <lysis> then it'll ask for YOUR USERNAME's password
[01:53] <matthew_w> Like... sudo dpkg --remove lilypond doesn't work
[01:53] <lysis> Toma-, but he was trying to install; so we don't want to confuse the lad. =)
[01:53] <vindicta> i need some help mapping a network drive
[01:53] <Toma-> lysis: oic. whatever. :)
[01:53] <lysis> vindicta, if i knew how i would love to help! =)
[01:53] <ki4ikl> Does ANYONE know about a linksys router in ubuntu
[01:53] <ki4ikl> ???
[01:54] <vindicta> sry
[01:54] <butcherbird> ki4ikl: what is your question
[01:54] <athlon> in windows if you pick an IP address for your network card that has been picked by someone else, you get a warning that a warning "duplicate IP address" and so forth. Is there a similar feature in linux ?
[01:54] <lysis> ki4ikl, what do you need to do?
[01:54] <Toma-> oh sweet, i got freevo working... :D
[01:54] <lysis> athlon, i'm sure it will tell you if you screw up.   how about you choose one that isn't used though.  =)
[01:54] <ki4ikl> when i get it plugged it up and do the ifup and ifdown it wont work, and i can't give yall any details cause i'm eleven, but i know how to follow direcitons
[01:55] <matthew_w> And the --force-removeinstreq doesn't work either
[01:55] <butcherbird> ki4ikl: wireless or wired?
[01:55] <ki4ikl> it has both
[01:55] <ki4ikl> i have done everything
[01:55] <lysis> ki4ikl, are you trying to hook up with wired or wireless?
[01:55] <ki4ikl> i will be wired but my mom is wireless
[01:55] <lysis> wired = a ubuntu computer system?
[01:56] <ki4ikl> but first i want it to work with MY computer via wire
[01:56] <ki4ikl> yes that is correct
[01:56] <skon> athlon: no, there isn't, i've tried
[01:56] <lysis> ki4ikl, ok i'm going to walk you through this
[01:56] <lysis> ki4ikl, you are using WRT54G ?
[01:56] <ki4ikl> yes, pm me lysis
[01:56] <quiet> can i install breezy, change sources, and dist-upgrade to dapper flight 3?? or is that not supported?
[01:57] <ki4ikl> i will be writing them down , then i will do what my paper says, then i will come back if it works and if not i will be coming back with my other router to get it to work
[01:57] <nbound> anyone here know why ubuntu wont write to my PSP?
[01:57] <Stewart4071> hey guys - sorry another question - the bot seems to have pointed me in the right direction.. but I wonder is it the same to use apt vs synaptic? I've used apt many times with debian, but I've never used synaptic
[01:57] <lysis> playstation portable nbound?
[01:57] <nbound> lysis, yep
[01:57] <Stewart4071> this is to upgrade my distro to breezy
[01:58] <butcherbird> Stewart4071: synaptic is just front end for apt
[01:58] <Stewart4071> oh really? I didn't know that
[01:58] <Stewart4071> thanks
[01:58] <butcherbird> np
[01:58] <skon> Someone know how to compile and install plugins for gaim? I've followed all the steps and it completes successfully but it doesn't show up in my plugins list....
[01:58] <nbound> lysis, any ideas?
[01:58] <armosfighter> where can i find a decent C compiler...
[01:58] <armosfighter> ?
[01:59] <skon> armosfighter, sudo apt-get install gcc
[01:59] <nbound> armosfighter, doesnt linux come with one?
[01:59] <lysis> nbound, i don't have one, just wanted to clarify that for other people in here to help. =)
[01:59] <butcherbird> armosfighter: sudo apt-get build-essential ?
[01:59] <armosfighter> im not sure
[01:59] <armosfighter> ill try it
[01:59] <nbound> lysis oh ok
[01:59] <butcherbird> armosfighter: sudo apt-get install build-essential ?
[01:59] <matthew_w> It simply won't go away and synaptic won't work until it does!
[01:59] <nbound> well i think it could be coz its a fat partition... anyone in here know how to get files to write to a fat partition???
[02:00] <blacks> fat partition writing has been in the kernel for forever
[02:00] <nbound> blacks, FAT16 not FAt32
[02:00] <timfrost> quiet, dist-upgrade won't be to flight-3, it will be to the latest packages in the dapper repositories.  However, yes, if you installl breezy, then change breezy to dapper in sources.list, you will have a current dapper desktop
[02:00] <nbound> the psp is fat16
[02:00] <blacks> nbcthreat, what is the problem?
[02:00] <blacks> err
[02:00] <blacks> nbound,
[02:01] <quiet> timfrost, okay thanks. :)
[02:01] <blacks> heheh
[02:01] <matthew_w> sudo dpkg --remove lilypond-data --force-remove-instreq doesn't work...
[02:01] <matthew_w> X_X!
[02:01] <skon> Someone know how to compile and install gaim plugins?
[02:01] <butcherbird> nbound: if you sudo mount -t auto /dev... does it work?
[02:01] <nbound> butcherbird, it auto mounts, its read as if its a mem stick
[02:01] <mitrovarr> does anyone know how to migrate an ubuntu installation from one hard drive to another?
[02:01] <armosfighter> butcher bird it unpacked everthing and brought me back to my normal thing does that mean its all set?
[02:02] <butcherbird> nbound: maybe sudo chown username /media/whatever
[02:02] <nbound> butcherbird, ive tryed sudo -s in console to no avaul
[02:02] <nbound> avail*
[02:03] <matthew_w> !remove
[02:03] <ubotu> No idea, matthew_w
[02:03] <gnudreamer> I figured out the problem
[02:03] <matthew_w> !dpkg remove
[02:03] <ubotu> Wish i knew, matthew_w
[02:03] <nbound> it will either write nothing, or write empty files
[02:03] <matthew_w> X_X
[02:03] <nbound> that is write the filenames, but no data
[02:03] <gnudreamer> my rom ide cable wasn't connected fully, would that cause an irq error?
[02:03] <armosfighter> eh
[02:03] <armosfighter> is it tar -zxvf
[02:03] <armosfighter> ?
[02:03] <nbound> gnudreamer, that can cause a lot of errors
[02:04] <joshb> what port does the vnc run off of? i want to be able to connect with my windows machine to my ubunto station.\
[02:04] <butcherbird> nbound: off work.. good luck
[02:04] <skon> joshb: it's up in the 5000s....run an nmap on the vncserver to check it
[02:04] <nbound> damn =(
[02:04] <_justin> anybody here use IceWM?  I'm trying to figure out how to use it
[02:04] <gnudreamer> indeed, when I realized it after it wouldnt boot the live cd....i connected it fully and the kernel took about thirty seconds to boot instead of literally 30 minutes!
[02:04] <_justin> I installed the icewm package
[02:04] <nbound> anyone here own a PSP?
[02:05] <joshb> ok thanks
[02:05] <armosfighter> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[02:05] <lysis> _justin, i don't like it.   it's not flashy enough. =P
[02:05] <armosfighter> why am i getting that when i try to configure
[02:05] <matthew_w> Someone help?
[02:05] <lysis> nbound, i think we all just play tuxracer all day . . .
[02:05] <robotgeek> nbound: did you not asj that yseterday? :)
[02:05] <armosfighter> : (
[02:05] <lysis> matthew_w, what can i help you with?
[02:05] <timfrost> joshb, 5900 by default
[02:05] <joshb> ok how exactly do i run a nmap on that... i'm kinda of a newbie
[02:05] <robotgeek> lysis: nethack
[02:05] <_justin> lysis: I'm just trying to figure out how to launch it instead of gnome and go back if I don't like it
[02:05] <lysis> robotgeek, lol. =)   i should try that sometime. =)
[02:05] <crimsun> armosfighter: install libgtk1.2-dev
[02:05] <nbound> robotgeek, yeah but now i have my cable and its not writing to it, or when it does it writes the filenames, but no data
[02:05] <lysis> _jason, it will be under the SESSIONS button at the login screen
[02:06] <matthew_w> lysis; oh, sorry, I put it all above, guess no one noticed lol.  For some reason there is a broken package in Synaptic, I've tried EVERYTHING and I simply CAN'T remove it, and it's screwing up all of my installations.
[02:06] <lysis> _jason, just make sure you click "JUST THIS TIME" instead of "DEFAULT"
[02:06] <armosfighter> is it already included and i just need to extract it or do i need to download?
[02:06] <mkyb14> having a wee bit of a time trying to get synergy running.  has anyone dealt with it before?
[02:06] <CyberMad> how to backup my linux box easily? like ghost or something..
[02:06] <_jason> lysis, what?
[02:06] <lysis> matthew_w, what package
[02:06] <crimsun> armosfighter: use Synaptic, Adept, aptitude, apt-get, ...
[02:06] <nbound> matthew_w, apt-get remove <package name>
[02:06] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, have you heard about any problems with wireless in the latest round of dapper updates?
[02:06] <armosfighter> kk
[02:06] <armosfighter> thank you
[02:06] <lysis> _jason, sorry that was meant for a different _j guy . . .
[02:06] <matthew_w> nbound; doesn't work.
[02:06] <matthew_w> lysis; lilypond-data
[02:06] <skon> joshb: I guess its 5900...i forgot...but if you want to run nmap you first have to have it installed, then you do nmap -P0 ip.address and it'll tell you whta ports are opened
[02:06] <_jason> lysis, k, np
[02:06] <lysis> ahh. he quit, must've figured it out.
[02:06] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: yes I have it running here - you need a file called synergy.conf in your home dir from memory
[02:06] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: I haven't rebooted/resumed from hibernate since my last upgrade (circa 2 hrs ago)
[02:07] <nbound> matthew_w, maybe apt-get --purge <pachage name>
[02:07] <mkyb14> i did that
[02:07] <lysis> matthew_w, you say it's BROKEN?
[02:07] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: but no, I haven't. Why?
[02:07] <nbound> or u could reinstall it
[02:07] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I ran updates..... now wireless is toast
[02:07] <mkyb14> from the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto
[02:07] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: uname -r
[02:07] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: then you point synergyc at the server
[02:07] <mkyb14> but it just won't start
[02:07] <mkyb14> synergys
[02:07] <sally_> does anyone know how to submit info to freedb using grip?
[02:07] <gnudreamer> any of you turned you wireless card into a WAP (wireless access point)/
[02:07] <joshb> skon: ok um... do you know of a way for a windows machine to use vncserver running on ubuntu?
[02:07] <matthew_w> lysis; not in the broken filter, but apt reports that it's in a "very bad state"
[02:07] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, 2.6.15-15-386
[02:08] <skon> joshb: to view an ubuntu machine that is running the vnsserver?
[02:08] <matthew_w> nbound; nope.
[02:08] <mkyb14> all i need now is synergy running i have 3ddesk and i'm almost done with everything i needed.  the conf is in my home folder.
[02:08] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: the syntax of the synergy.conf file is fairly simple - I think I read about it on the home page for the project
[02:08] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, ndiswrapper with broadcom wireless
[02:08] <matthew_w> nbound; =(
[02:08] <joshb> skon: yes
[02:08] <mkyb14> i did taht
[02:08] <mkyb14> and set it up
[02:08] <lysis> matthew_w, what have you tried to do?  usually packages break when people try doing things to them, re-installs, removes things like that.
[02:08] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: I think synergys runs by default
[02:08] <mkyb14> as the tutorial said to do.  now when i run synergys or the config copy it gives me this
[02:08] <skon> joshb: just download the vncviewer program for windows....probably www.realvnc.com but I'm not sure
[02:09] <mkyb14> it's not in my process manager?
[02:09] <B_166-ER-X> where do i change my Login screen image ?,
[02:09] <mkyb14> i'm tying to connect my windows and linux box
[02:09] <mkyb14> with ubuntu being the server
[02:09] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: I'm not sure where you got 2.6.15-15.xx ...
[02:09] <joshb> skon: i have it on windows but i am trying to configure ubuntu to allow me to go from windows to ubuntu?
[02:09] <matthew_w> lysis; for some reason, when I was installing another package, it was a dedpendency, and it wasn't found in the archives for some reason or another, and now it's broken and won't go away.
[02:09] <lysis> mkyb14, you want to get samba running so windows can see linux in the network.
[02:09] <Stewart4071> you know guys, I don't mean to spam up the channel with non-support related stuff, but I just have to say that I have used a lot of distros, and in the last few hours of using Ubuntu I've been really impressed.  I'm very pleased
[02:09] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, 2.6.15-12
[02:09] <mkyb14> i have that
[02:09] <navarone> B_166-ER-X, I think System/Prefernces/Login Photo
[02:09] <lysis> matthew, try to apt-get --purge <filename>
[02:09] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: what does  pgrep synergys  say on the server machine ?
[02:10] <matthew_w> lysis; doesn't work.
[02:10] <thoreauputic> lysis: synergy has nothing to do with samba :)
[02:10] <B_166-ER-X> navarone , nope, i was meaning, the 'whole' login page image ,
[02:10] <lysis> matthew_w, i don't know what to tell you then friend. =(
[02:10] <navarone> Stewart...welcome to the club...S<>
[02:10] <matthew_w> lysis;  $sudo apt-get --purge lilypond-data  $ unknown command, lilypond-data.
[02:10] <lysis> thoreauputic, i must've seen only part of his post.  sorry! =)
[02:10] <robotgeek> mkyb14: did you do follow the wiki guide?
[02:10] <skon> joshb: did you set up the server on ubuntu
[02:10] <thoreauputic> lysis: no worries :)
[02:10] <mkyb14> nothing
[02:11] <lysis> matthew_w, give me a moment
[02:11] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I'll check synaptics after I finish the round of updates I'm doing right now...... what kernel should your system theoretically be running?
[02:11] <mkyb14>  pgrep synergys  just goes to the next line
[02:11] <joshb> i think so i typed in vncserver and a password
[02:11] <joshb> skon: and it worked
[02:11] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: if you run  synergys  then pgrep synergys  does it show with pgrep synergys ?
[02:11] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: I'm still using -11.16, because -12.17 lacks a considerable number of fixes
[02:11] <lysis> matthew_w, try apt-get remove <package name>
[02:11] <skon> joshb: so what's the matter?
[02:11] <robotgeek> mkyb14: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynergyHowto in case u did not know :)
[02:11] <_jason> I need help setting up alsa sound with dmix.  I find tons of suggestions with google.  Unfortuntaly they rarely agree with one another...  Can anyone give me an example asound.conf/asoundrc I can look at or some suggestions?
[02:12] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I'll probably try a kernel downgrade..... I have a feeling they broke something else tho
[02:12] <joshb> skon: i can't get windows to connect
[02:12] <skon> joshb: are they on the same network? did you specify the port and the correct IP address?
[02:12] <lysis> _jason, do you happen to know if ubuntu will support a widescreen monitor, and what i might need to do to set it up (will i need to configure the x server?)
[02:12] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: we updated to a new bcm43xx snapshot on Jan 15th
[02:12] <lysis> matthew_w, try apt-get remove <package name>
[02:12] <matthew_w> lysis;  package is in a very bad inconsistent state,  You should reinstall it before removing it.  (When doing reinstall, it is "No such file or directory")
[02:12] <_jason> lysis, I don't know
[02:12] <mkyb14> that was the link i posted earlier and yes i followed that and no pgrep doens't do anything
[02:12] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, that's the problem!!
[02:12] <lysis> _jason, no worries. =)
[02:12] <navarone> B_166-ER-X, I am not sure but do you mean the usplash image?
[02:12] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, private?
[02:12] <joshb> skon: they are both on the same network i spedified the ip through windows but now ip
[02:12] <lysis> matthew_w, try apt-get remove -f <package name>
[02:13] <B_166-ER-X> navarone, found it, its 'gdmsetup'
[02:13] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: err, problem?
[02:13] <navarone> okie
[02:13] <navarone> B_166-ER-X, was poking arounf Config Editor...<s>
[02:13] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: the version of this kernel (-12.18) isn't even released
[02:13] <matthew_w> lysis; same.
[02:13] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: sorry, -13.18
[02:13] <lysis> matthew_w, one more moment.
[02:13] <skon> joshb: do you have firewalls running on either of them?
[02:14] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I still have ndiswrappersrunning... maybe a conflict?
[02:14] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: run  synergys --config synergy.conf
[02:14] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: assuming you have that file in the same directory
[02:14] <joshb> skon: not on windows not sure about ubuntu  how do i check
[02:14] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: no idea, I'm unfamiliar w/ bcm43xx
[02:14] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I was reading somewhere they recently added native hacked drivers for it
[02:14] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: I suggest you downgrade to -11.16 and wait til -13.18 is released
[02:15] <skon> joshb: well... why don't you run vncviewer on your ubuntu machine with the ip of 127.0.0.1 and see what happens
[02:15] <mkyb14> yes in my home dir
[02:15] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, that's what I'll probably do
[02:15] <robotgeek> KoruptPryde: what issues are you having? support only in dapper, and very experimental
[02:15] <lysis> matthew_w, i'm still looking for you
[02:15] <mkyb14> just kills to the next line when i do  synergys --config synergy.conf
[02:15] <joshb> skon: so in a shell i type vncserver 127.0.0.1
[02:15] <matthew_w> lysis; ok. :)
[02:16] <skon> joshb: no, vncviewer
[02:16] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: you can run it with the -f for foreground flag to see what it is doing - see synergys --help
[02:16] <mkyb14> thoreauputic, if you need to see what i'm doing i can show you in VNC
[02:16] <joshb> skon: it says unable to connect to vnc server
[02:16] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: if it returns to the next line it probably worked :)
[02:16] <KoruptPryde> robotgeek, after the update from the 15th (I ran about three days updates at the same time) by broadcom 43xx stopped working    I'm running ndiswrappers so I can only assume that perhaps the kernel upgrade with broadcom native support may be interfering
[02:17] <mkyb14> ok wel lit says forefully rejected on my windows box, but i was thinking that it was the server
[02:17] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: try pgrep synergys again - you shoud see a number
[02:17] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I appreciate the advice
[02:17] <Xnos> split -b 500m *.mpg ... i have this but generate only one 500mb file...how to gen 2?
[02:17] <skon> joshb: let me think about this for a min
[02:17] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: the bcm43xx update that I mentioned has not been released in a current Dapper kernel
[02:17] <jhenn> _jason: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IdeaPool
[02:17] <joshb> skon: ok
[02:17] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: it's in our git and will be released with -13.18
[02:18] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: I use synergy with linux boxen, so I can't comment on the wundows side ...
[02:18] <robotgeek> KoruptPryde: oh, the ndiswrapper broadcom. no comments, sorry :)
[02:18] <matthewjames> what was the command, for when installing modules, for it to look on the desktop, something cd?
[02:18] <mitrovarr> does anyone know a method to migrate an ubuntu install over to another hard drive?
[02:18] <_jason> jhenn, thanks, you finally found it :)
[02:18] <lysis> matthew_w, i unfortunately do not know. =(
[02:19] <gnudreamer> term command for seeing all hardware?
[02:19] <matthew_w> lysis; ok.  X_X
[02:19] <gnudreamer> $
[02:19] <mkyb14> 'okokok
[02:19] <thoreauputic> matthew_w:  cd ~/Desktop  ?
[02:19] <mkyb14> thoreauputic, i got it to run on my windows box but i can't get it to cross to my linux box.. lol
[02:19] <thoreauputic> erm matthewjames
[02:19] <matthewjames> ty
[02:19] <mkyb14> it's cycleing back around on my monitor
[02:19] <lysis> matthew_w, i searched for  package is in a very bad inconsistent state,  You should reinstall it before removing it.         on google
[02:19] <lysis> matthew_w, i saw many many results, but nothing i could quickly find you an answer.
[02:20] <gnudreamer> -lsconf
[02:20] <matthew_w> Ah
[02:20] <hikenboot> is there a way to get verbose output from dpkg in ubuntu? I see no verbose option ...-v or -vvv ???
[02:20] <skon> joshb: when you connect via vncserver, you might have to do vncserver 127.0.0.1:1
[02:20] <matthewjames> thoreauputic: that did not work
[02:20] <skon> joshb, i mean vncviewer 127.0.0.1:1
[02:20] <joshb> skon:
[02:20] <joshb> skon: ok
[02:20] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, I'll try a kernel backslide.... maybe I'll get lucky... either way I'll let you know
[02:21] <thoreauputic> matthewjames: define "did not work" - that command merely moves you to the desktop directory
[02:21] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, what build did you recommend?
[02:21] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: cool
[02:21] <matthewjames> well, it is saying no such file or directery
[02:21] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: the package name is linux-image-2.6.15-11-386
[02:21] <joshb> skon: ok that works so do i do the same with my windows machine?
[02:21] <thoreauputic> matthewjames: did you use a capital D and  cd ~/Desktop ?
[02:22] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: I generally refer to source versions, however (linux-image-2.6.15-11-386 is generate from our -11.16 source)
[02:22] <matthewjames> oops, lol
[02:22] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:22] <matthewjames> k, works, ty
[02:22] <skon> joshb: somehow you uhave to specify the desktop you're trying to connect to on the windows machine, the first one is always "1", so look for an option like that...i haven't used vncviewer in windows so I can't really tell you what to do exactly though
[02:22] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[02:22] <lysis> hey, widescreen monitors are supported in ubuntu right?
[02:22] <mkyb14> thoreauputic, is there a hot key for this or just moving the mouse should act likd dual monitors?
[02:23] <joshb> skon: do you know anyone that does use vnc like i am trying to?
[02:23] <mkyb14> i use tightvnc to connect to ubuntu
[02:23] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: if your config is right, once you run the client on the other box your mouse just leaves one monitor and appears on the other
[02:23] <mkyb14> hm
[02:24] <skon> joshb: no, I only use vnc to connect from one ubuntu to another, sorry
[02:24] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: you can also paste text etc from one to the other
[02:24] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, love the new sftp support in gnome by the way... have you played with it?
[02:24] <gnudreamer> lspci doesnt list my cdrom drives what can i do to get it to see them again?
[02:24] <joshb> skon: thanks
[02:24] <brandon2> hey, i have a ati radeon 9250 and i cant get the s-video out to work so i can hook it to my tv, any suggestions?
[02:24] <jared_> can someone kill ki4ikl, its me
[02:24] <lysis> jared_, only opers and the owner of the name can.
[02:24] <gnudreamer> ivtv
[02:25] <superchode> is it a registered nick?
[02:25] <skon> joshb: sure
[02:25] <jared_> yes its a registered nick and its me, lysis this is ki4ikl
[02:25] <brandon2> gnudreamer was hat to me...?
[02:25] <brandon2> that*
[02:25] <jared_> i disconnected and my name stayed on the server
[02:25] <lysis> jared_, i know.   just type /nickserv kill <nickname> <password>
[02:25] <thoreauputic> jared_: /msg nickserv ghost nick password
[02:25] <superchode>  /msg nickserv ghost ki4ikl *password
[02:25] <navarone> jared type /nickserv ghost ki4ikl  <pass>
[02:25] <jared_> thnx
[02:25] <lysis> ohh ghost . . .
[02:25] <superchode> heh
[02:25] <mkyb14> ahha i can only make my mouse go around on my windows box.... but it is conencting to my linux box just not letting the mouse over there
[02:25] <crimsun> KoruptPryde: no, I have very little time for devel work these days; I'm commuting to take care of a close friend with Hodgkin's disease
[02:26] <armosfighter> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[02:26] <navarone> oops...forgot the msg part...lol
[02:26] <armosfighter> where do i install
[02:26] <armosfighter> !
[02:26] <ubotu> armosfighter: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:26] <armosfighter> WAHH!!!!
[02:26] <armosfighter> lol
[02:26] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: unfortunately I've never used the windows synergy client...
[02:26] <mkyb14> hm
[02:26] <mkyb14> well thanks for all the help, i'm atleast one step closer
[02:27] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: maybe check the syntax of your synergy.conf
[02:27] <gnudreamer> should lsconf list cdroms to?
[02:27] <matthew_w> lysis; I think I may have solved it myself
[02:27] <nbound> okay i can write to my PSP with a windows box but not with ubuntu =/
[02:27] <gnudreamer> lspci I mean
[02:27] <skon> Has anyone successsfully installed a plugin for gaim???
[02:27] <lysis> matthew_w, what did you do?
[02:27] <matthew_w> by rm'ing all files lilypond-data from /var/lib/dpkg/info, and editing /var/lib/dpkg/status to remove all instances of lilypond-data
[02:28] <brandon2> does anyone konw how to enable svideo out on an ati card?
[02:28] <mcdenyer> i need help installing steam anyone here install steam before?
[02:29] <crimsun> matthew_w: what problem were you having?
[02:29] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: google winetools
[02:29] <mcdenyer> constantine well ive alreayd installed wine
[02:29] <mkyb14> yea i'm double checking evwreything but all is ok so far
[02:29] <gnudreamer> brandon look into ivtv i think
[02:29] <matthew_w> crimsun; absolutely COULD NOT get synaptic to remove a package
[02:29] <crimsun> matthew_w: you needed to install tetex-bin. It's a bug that has been fixed upstream in Debian; it's being synced into Dapper.
[02:29] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi, ive installed steam and now it cnat get past updating
[02:29] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: winetools helps set up different apps in wine (example being Steam)
[02:29] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: firewall issues maybe?
[02:29] <brandon2> gnudreamer i have ivtv set up to read a tv tuner, but this is the output... ill look into it
[02:30] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi, ok ty
[02:30] <gnudreamer> I THINK XORG.CONF MIGHT HELP
[02:30] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: worked for me, and i have noname graphics
[02:30] <gnudreamer> sry
[02:30] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi, hey my steam is kind of screwing up and in terminal the same process keeps getting repeated
[02:30] <Stewart4071> so - has the shipit program started shipping Breezy cds yet? I got a bunch of Hoary Hedgehog CDs that I mostly gave out trying to convert some people to Linux.
[02:30] <gnudreamer> say any pro's no gnu well enough to help me get the kernel to recognize my cd and dvd rom
[02:30] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi,  is there like a stop comand?
[02:31] <gnudreamer> it has before but i had some issues now they arent being seen
[02:31] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: try ctrl-c
[02:31] <mahangu> i need a good audio cd creator
[02:31] <gnudreamer> keb is pretty good
[02:32] <gnudreamer> i mean I like it
[02:32] <thoreauputic> Stewart4071: shipit has been shipping Breezy CDs since October last year :)
[02:32] <mahangu> gnudreamer, i drag mp3s and it says the file format is invalid
[02:32] <mkyb14> na
[02:32] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi,  hmm i canyt find it do u think u could link me to it?
[02:32] <constantine-xvi> my laptop (acer aspire 3003lci) is running broadcom ndiswrapper drivers, and seems to cause ubuntu to lock up.  any thoughts?
[02:32] <gnudreamer> maybe you dont have your lame stuff installed?
[02:33] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: hold on
[02:33] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi,  the site that helped u
[02:33] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi, k thx
[02:33] <gnudreamer> throw the laptop out the window and see if that helps
[02:33] <constantine-xvi> mcdenyer: http://linux-gamers.net/
[02:33] <adub> this is a simple question probably but the autocomplete in mozilla how would i delete something that i typed in on a form
[02:34] <mcdenyer> constantine-xvi,  haha yeah thats what ive been using
[02:34] <gnudreamer> i loe slapstick comedy
[02:34] <Stewart4071> thoreauputic - oh ok... I will have to check my shipit account details to make sure I get some CD's - isn't Ubuntu on a six month schedule though? So by the time I'd probably get the CD's they'll be on the next release.
[02:34] <gnudreamer> i love
[02:34] <constantine-xvi> gnudreamer: been through a car crash while using it: about the same thing
[02:34] <gnudreamer> i guess you shouldnt have been computing and driving
[02:34] <navarone> adub...in preferences there should be a place where you can clear form data
[02:34] <constantine-xvi> gnudreamer: i was in back
[02:34] <thoreauputic> Stewart4071: not sure when Dapper will ship - presumably in late April after release
[02:34] <eugman> can someone take a look at http://pastebin.com/509169 ?
[02:35] <gnudreamer> constantine: i apologize for my comments i meant n harm
[02:35] <joseph> how do I install Canon i860 printer?
[02:36] <_jason> ubotu, tell joseph about print
[02:36] <gnudreamer> is there a ubuntu irc room I can go to to find out how to see what hardware is installed, I need the command to typ to find the conf
[02:36] <mkyb14> ok i got them to connect using windows as my server (better mouse etc) but the screens don't cross for the mouse etc
[02:36] <navarone> gnudreamer, what hardware is giving you problems?
[02:37] <gnudreamer> cdrom and dvd rom arent getting noticed by ubuntu anymore
[02:37] <constantine-xvi> gnudreamer: all in good fun
[02:37] <navarone> gnudreamer, could you paste your fstab into pastebin please?
[02:37] <gnudreamer> constantine-xvi: just making sure
[02:37] <mkyb14> SICK got it
[02:37] <gnudreamer> navarone sure
[02:37] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: did you run  synergyc IP-of-Windows box    on the client side ?
[02:37] <mkyb14> i finally am using my windows keyboard to connect
[02:37] <mkyb14> heh
[02:37] <constantine-xvi> gnudreamer: :-), just so you know
[02:37] <mkyb14> w00t
[02:37] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: :)
[02:38] <mkyb14> little laggy but who care
[02:38] <joseph> _jason: it says my printer, canon i860 doesn't work
[02:38] <mkyb14> s
[02:38] <Nihil85> hi! i want to use xfce, but i don't have the login screen at startup... how can i set this screen? :P thanks
[02:38] <gnudreamer> code to list fstab?
[02:38] <gnudreamer> syntax to list fstab -l fstab?
[02:38] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: make sure you don't run the server on both boxes - that will confuse the programs
[02:38] <bimberi> gnudreamer: cat /etc/fstab
[02:39] <eugman> Nihil did you disable the login screen?
[02:39] <navarone> gnudreamer, your fstab is in /etc folder...go there and open then copy contents and paste
[02:39] <mkyb14> thoreauputic, how do i quit the server on ubuntu
[02:39] <eugman> actually ignore me
[02:39] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: just kill synergys
[02:39] <eugman> I only know about gnome
[02:39] <navarone> paste in pastebin that is...<s>
[02:39] <_jason> joseph, did you search linuxprinting.org as well?
[02:39] <KoruptPryde> crimsun, kernel swap worked... thanks
[02:39] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: eg sudo killall synergys ( or no sudo if you ran it as your user)
[02:40] <bimberi> gnudreamer: also "sudo lshw" should give some information about cd devices (along with lots of other stuff)
[02:40] <Nihil85> eugman, yes, i did
[02:40] <mkyb14> bash: kill: synergys: arguments must be process or job IDs
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: killall
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: or use pkill synergys
[02:40] <mkyb14> no process killed
[02:40] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: then it isn't running
[02:40] <mkyb14> yea
[02:40] <mkyb14> sweet
[02:41] <mkyb14> i just can't use my "home" key from my windows machine taht brings up 3ddesk.  is there a way to fix that?
[02:41] <eugman> oh well in gnome you go to System->Administration->Login Screen Setup. I wouldn't know how to re enable it in any other kind of desktop
[02:41] <Doomhammer> someone availible to answer a hardware support question ?
[02:41] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7230
[02:42] <thoreauputic> !anyone
[02:42] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:42] <mahangu> Doomhammer, just ask
[02:42] <mahangu> thoreauputic, heh ;-)
[02:42] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:42] <Doomhammer> does ubuntu have good support for a HighPoint Rocket100 PCI IDE Controller Card ?
[02:42] <adub> navarone i do not get it i cant just delete one thing i have to clear all data i dont want to delete all data just one thing???
[02:42] <Doomhammer> there's an open source driver on their site for kernel 2.4.x or 2.6.x, but i was hoping ubuntu could autoconfigure it
[02:42] <sethk> Doomhammer, I have a different rocket PCI board, which is well supported
[02:43] <sethk> Doomhammer, I think it is the same driver, but I'm not certain
[02:43] <Doomhammer> sethk: alright, thanks
[02:43] <Doomhammer> just wanted to make sure before i ordered it :P
[02:43] <gnudreamer> sudo lshw i like that command very coomplete
[02:43] <sethk> Doomhammer, well, to be sure you want someone with the same model
[02:43] <gnudreamer> bimberi what does the command translate into...i will check wikipedia
[02:43] <joseph> I need package libtiff3g where is it?
[02:44] <Nihil85> eugman, how can i return at the login screen? i've installed xfce but i cannot use it!
[02:44] <sethk> Doomhammer, mine is identified as rocketport upci 16 port
[02:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nihil85: click session at the login screen
[02:44] <onekill> anyone tried to get the on board video to work on a K7n2g?
[02:44] <Nihil85> i've no login screen
[02:44] <navarone> gnudreamer, I may be wrong but I think your cd-rom devices should be hdc and hdd not hda and hdb...
[02:44] <sethk> navarone, he might have sata
[02:44] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, i've no login screen... simply i turn on the pc and gnome start up, without any login or password
[02:44] <joseph> where can I find package libtiff3g
[02:45] <navarone> sethk okie
[02:45] <eugman> Nihili85 So you have gnome running and you want it to go to a login screen first when booting up?
[02:45] <eugman> Is that correct or no.
[02:45] <gnudreamer> i have them on the master ide cable not secondary could that be why they list that way?
[02:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nihil85: .. weird
[02:45] <onekill> I think I need to install the nvidia drivers
[02:45] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, hey, i'm trying to use xfce to solve those problems... do you remember? do you think that's a possible choiche?
[02:45] <thoreauputic> Nihil85: then you need to reconfigure gdm to give you a login screen :)
[02:45] <navarone> gnudreamer do you ahvea windows partitiona s well?
[02:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Nihil85: what happens when you restart X? (ctrl+alt+backspace
[02:45] <KoruptidPryde> crimsun, still around?
[02:46] <gnudreamer> no
[02:46] <Nihil85> thoreauputic, excuse me but i don't know how to reconfigure gdm
[02:46] <crimsun> KoruptidPryde: yes, but I'm busy
[02:46] <mkyb14> arr the only thing i can't do with Synergy is execute 3ddesks hot key which i set to home when i'm on it.  is there a way to make synergy do it
[02:46] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem?
[02:46] <Nihil85> CanYouHelpMePlz, it happens that gnome restart... without any password or login
[02:46] <mahangu> ive installed every lame package in the repos, and i still cant burn my mp3s to an audio cd
[02:46] <mahangu> any idea why?
[02:46] <KoruptidPryde> crimsun, that's cool... just wanted to let you know in case anyone else runs into the same problem that the kernel change worked
[02:46] <crimsun> KoruptidPryde: right.
[02:47] <Stewart4071> during the upgrade to breezy - I keep seeing the message "perl: warning - Failling back to the standard locale (C)" - this is followed by three listings of something appended with "No such file or directory" - and then the upgrade procedure keeps going... it's done this at least 20 times so far - is this normal?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Nihil85: in gnome, System - Administration - Login Screen I think
[02:47] <Dr_Willis> mahangu,  usibng k3b?
[02:47] <thoreauputic> Nihil85: disable automatic login on that screen
[02:48] <robotgeek> mahangu: doesn;t serpentine not work?
[02:48] <Nihil85> thoreauputic, i've searched in this menu, but i couldn't find it
[02:48] <thoreauputic> Nihil85: it's on the first tab - Automatic Login - I think you need to uncheck that option
[02:48] <mahangu> robotgeek, ill look in to that
[02:49] <gnudreamer> that Linclon show is on history channel tonight
[02:49] <glick> hi
[02:49] <robotgeek> mahangu: also k3b is worth all the kde stuff it puts in, imo
[02:49] <Hollowman> how can i change the apache webserver dir or give myself permanant write permission in /var/www/
[02:49] <onekill> can anyone help my resoulution problem
[02:49] <mkyb14> hollowman
[02:49] <mahangu> robotgeek, serpentine doesn't recognize my mp3s
[02:49] <glick> has anyone been having any problems with the automounting of usb and or firewire external drives?
[02:49] <mkyb14> i'll give you the command
[02:49] <robotgeek> Hollowman: look at /etc/apache2/sites-avaiable
[02:49] <Hollowman> mkyb14, ok thanks......
[02:50] <robotgeek> Hollowman: and just add your configuration there, it's very configurable from there
[02:50] <mkyb14> Hollowman,  i do both of these  #sudo chown -R username:username /var/www
[02:50] <mkyb14> and
[02:50] <gnudreamer> so my ide cable wasnt fully attatched to the dvd/cd-r drive and boot took a long time and now os wont control it...it worked before this happened
[02:50] <mkyb14> #sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www
[02:50] <thoreauputic> mahangu: I think there's a howto about enabling mp3 for serpentine on http://help.ubuntu.com from memory
[02:50] <robotgeek> mahangu: hmm, just get k3b then
[02:50] <Hollowman> mkyb14, username:username?
[02:50] <robotgeek> or starter guide?
[02:50] <Hollowman> mkyb14, do you mean username:password?
[02:50] <mkyb14> eya what evre younamed your linux box
[02:51] <mkyb14> no
[02:51] <mahangu> robotgeek, thoreauputic : k3b is the same
[02:51] <robotgeek> Hollowman: user:group
[02:51] <mahangu> as in it says it cant recognize the file format
[02:51] <mkyb14> for me its mkyb14:mkyb14
[02:51] <Hollowman> oh ok
[02:51] <mahangu> ive installed lame, lame-extras, lame-lib
[02:51] <derekS> where can i find the update-notifier source?
[02:51] <Hollowman> mkyb14, so sudo chmod -R 775 /var/www/ ?
[02:51] <thoreauputic> mahangu: with k3b install k3b-mp3
[02:51] <mkyb14> what is a good movie player for ubuntu?  windows i use vlc / wmp
[02:51] <Nihil85> thoreauputic, thanks, i've solved the problem
[02:51] <thoreauputic> !info k3b-mp3
[02:51] <mkyb14> yea
[02:51] <ubotu> k3b-mp3: (The KDE cd burning application library - MP3 decoder), section universe/libs, is optional. Version: 0.12.2-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 30 kB, Installed size: 92 kB
[02:52] <mahangu> thoreauputic, thank you! just apt-getting it
[02:52] <thoreauputic> :)
[02:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> mkyb14: totem-xine or vlc
[02:52] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem?
[02:52] <mkyb14> yea i like vlc.. i'll stick with that
[02:53] <mstermind> must go today 1 alienware laptop area51-m 5700 price $500 price includes shipping, wireless router and carry case, 1 alienware desktop area51 7500 price $550 including shipping, monitor, speakers.  message me if interested on aim at mikcomputing, aim at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if interested and wanting to buy.  willing to put on a yahoo buy it now auction
[02:53] <robotgeek> mstermind: please don't spam
[02:54] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why there could be a retreival fail for the temperature for montreal?
[02:54] <Hollowman> mkyb14, ok thank you.. that worked
[02:54] <mkyb14> cool
[02:54] <mcdenyer> mwe hello
[02:54] <Stewart4071> arggg,,,,, this perl warning thing is making me nervous
[02:54] <nbound> heh what can i use to encode files into mp4?
[02:55] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why there could be a retreival fail for the temperature for montreal in the weather gdeskelt??
[02:55] <thoreauputic> rix|undressed: thanks but we really don't need to know...
[02:55] <pestilence> nbound: mencoder?
[02:55] <navarone> rixth...you were shower before you were undressed...does that mean you shower fully clothed...?
[02:55] <nbound> pestilence, according to synaptic it doesnt support mpeg4
[02:55] <gratuit> nbound: or transcode
[02:55] <nbound> gratuit, and either does transcode =/
[02:55] <chmtdist> well, it only took me about 4 hours of going through dependencies to get kguitar installed!
[02:55] <Stewart4071> navarone - haven't you ever taken a shower in an expensive italian suit?  It feels great.
[02:56] <gratuit> nbound: then download the source and compile it, it does mpeg4
[02:56] <cello123> help! i did a sudo ./install on a perl script and gnome crashed. now root is locked out of gdm and root and i cant do a thing.
[02:56] <gratuit> nbound: mencoder and transcode both
[02:56] <navarone> Do they make expensive Italian sweat pants?
[02:56] <gratuit> nbound: are you looking for a particular kind of mpeg4?
[02:56] <cello123> i cant even login as user because it can't cd to /home/$user
[02:56] <nbound> gratuit, to play on my PSP
[02:56] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why there could be a retreival fail for the temperature for montreal in the weather gdeskelt??
[02:56] <chmtdist> cello123, have you tried doing '/etc/init.d/gdm stop&&/etc/init.d/gdm start'?
[02:57] <theneonshadow> whats a good program to play Windows games on this Linux computer
[02:57] <_jason> cello123, can you read the script and see what it did?
[02:57] <cello123> chmtdist will try
[02:57] <Stewart4071> navarone - I'm sure if you go to the right store, SOMEBODY will sell you a pair.  They'll probably also want to sell you some diet pills while your at it... and perhaps some snake oil.... but those are the stores that have what you want.
[02:57] <mkyb14> says i need decoders for totem to watch a movie... is there an aptget for this decoders?
[02:57] <phiber-optic> theneonshadow cedega i think
[02:57] <cello123> _jason... i coudlnt understand it if i tried
[02:57] <_jason> cello123, what was it
[02:57] <gratuit> theneonshadow: transgaming.com
[02:57] <navarone> Stewart4071, weeell..you can always use some extra snake oil...
[02:57] <thoreauputic> mkyb14: you probably need to read the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[02:57] <cello123> _jason: gdrename i think is the name
[02:57] <thoreauputic> !reatricted
[02:58] <ubotu> thoreauputic: Not a clue
[02:58] <thoreauputic> !restricted
[02:58] <ubotu> I heard restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:58] <nine09> wtf
[02:58] <onekill> I have this VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV18 [GeForce4 MX - nForce GPU]  (rev a3)
[02:58] <thoreauputic> rix|nekkid: enough
[02:58] <thoreauputic> rix|nekkid: this is turning into spam
[02:59] <onekill> but the only resolution I have is 640x480
[02:59] <theneonshadow> How do i make WMV files play on Linux. It always says it doesnt have the decoders for it
[02:59] <rix|nekkid> FOAD.
[02:59] <onekill> can someone help me
[02:59] <cello123> _jason: http://gprename.sourceforge.net/
[02:59] <crimsun> heh.
[02:59] <navarone> foad doesn't sound good
[02:59] <gratuit> theneonshadow: read what was just asked in the channel 2 minutes before you asked
[02:59] <phiber-optic> theneonshadow cedega i think
[02:59] <phiber-optic> does anyone know why there could be a retreival fail for the temperature for montreal in the weather gdeskelt??
[02:59] <thoreauputic> heh just in time
[03:00] <gratuit> not even two minutes.....
[03:00] <crimsun> thoreauputic: we can muzzle nick change-spammers to prevent them from doing that
[03:00] <nine09> ah FOAD i get it
[03:00] <theneonshadow> oh i see, Thanks gratuit
[03:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phiber-optic: Maybe the server doesn't have the temperature right now?
[03:00] <bonemachine> please, anyone knows how can I configure a abnt2 keyboard on ubuntu breezy?
[03:00] <phiber-optic> but its been down for 3 days
[03:00] <navarone> phiber right click /configure and type montreal...should change to montreal data
[03:00] <phiber-optic> and its only for montreal
[03:00] <sethk> phiber-optic, it's probably frozen
[03:00] <phiber-optic> yeah I did that but i says fail to retrieve
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phiber-optic: Try changing servers.
[03:01] <phiber-optic> how do I do that?
[03:01] <bimberi> ubotu tell onekill about resolution
[03:01] <cello123> chmtdist: i just tried '/etc/init.d/gdm stop&&/etc/init.d/gdm start'? as root and it failed to start gdm
[03:01] <phiber-optic> what is the default server?
[03:01] <onekill> I have already been through that
[03:01] <navarone> phiber-optic, the IT guys in Montreal are eating their poutine and cheering the Habs...lol
[03:01] <onekill> it reconizes everything
[03:01] <onekill> monitor and all
[03:01] <phiber-optic> looolll
[03:01] <bonemachine> i can't make the '?' key works...
[03:01] <phiber-optic> Go habs go lol
[03:02] <cello123> oh dear god what has happened to my gnome
[03:02] <phiber-optic> does anyone know what is the default server?
[03:02] <Amaranth> !answer
[03:02] <ubotu> somebody said answer was 42
[03:02] <cello123> !question
[03:02] <ubotu> Wish i knew, cello123
[03:03] <gratuit> cello123: did you do it as sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop&&/etc/init.d/gdm start   ?
[03:03] <navarone> I dunno phiber-optic and I uninstalled gdesklets so I can't take a look
[03:03] <theneonshadow> how do i install/run cedega once i have the files on my computer.
[03:03] <cello123> gratuit: i can only login as root o_O
[03:03] <gratuit> because that would only run the first command as root
[03:03] <phiber-optic> :(
[03:03] <gratuit> ah
[03:03] <_jason> cello123, into gnome?
[03:03] <cello123> _jason: no, into linux
[03:03] <cello123> i cant get gnome at all.
[03:03] <_jason> cello123, wow it locked out your user from the terminal?
[03:04] <navarone> phiber-optic, are you in Montreal?
[03:04] <cello123> gdm fails as root
[03:04] <phiber-optic> yup
[03:04] <cello123> _jason: it fails to cd to /home/user and dies
[03:04] <navarone> phiber-optic, then stick your head out the door ya hoser...;)
[03:04] <Hollowman> what is the command for checking your ip configuration?
[03:04] <cello123> ifconfig
[03:04] <GNU32> Is it ok to install some libs required for the transcode package from normal debian packages? Because the newer versions for ubuntu aren't out yet...
[03:04] <Hollowman> ect... current ip/dns servers
[03:04] <Hollowman> ok
[03:04] <pudland> I updated to breezy. cant boot up into gnome.
[03:04] <theneonshadow> how do i install/run cedega once i have the files on my computer.
[03:04] <GNU32> hmm, maybe if I enable deb-src repos...
[03:04] <phiber-optic> its funny it does not only show montreal
[03:04] <Hollowman> cello123, maybe in windows it is ipconfig
[03:04] <thoreauputic> !cedega
[03:04] <ubotu> rumour has it, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[03:04] <phiber-optic> but I try other cities and it works
[03:05] <navarone> phiber try quebec and ottawa...maybea  regional thing
[03:05] <theneonshadow> Does it just work once its installed?
[03:05] <theneonshadow> i mean all ive done is download
[03:05] <phiber-optic> It shows me for quebec and Ottawa
[03:05] <phiber-optic> but not montreal
[03:05] <phiber-optic> :(
[03:05] <_jason> cello123, what does it say when gdm fails?
[03:05] <Hollowman> what is the command to view your ip address
[03:05] <navarone> phiber-optic, weird
[03:05] <thoreauputic> theneonshadow: try reading the wiki ubotu posted
[03:05] <mcdenyer> i get an error when i tryu to run steam can somone help me?
[03:06] <navarone> Hollowman, ipconfig
[03:06] <phiber-optic> yeah I know
[03:06] <cello123> _jason, "[fail] "
[03:06] <phiber-optic> could it be something about my region where I m located?
[03:06] <pudland> Can someone help. I updated to breezy, now it goes to terminal at boot??
[03:06] <Hollowman> bash: ipconfig: command not found
[03:06] <cello123> _jason: stopping.. not running... starting.. [fail] 
[03:06] <thoreauputic> Hollowman: ifconfig
[03:06] <navarone> hmmm...
[03:06] <navarone> doh
[03:06] <theneonshadow> *sigh* its always so easy...
[03:06] <_jason> cello123, no idea if this will help: "dpkg-reconfigure gdm'
[03:07] <GNU32> nope
[03:07] <phiber-optic> How can i change my region or something?
[03:07] <Hollowman> ok ifconfig works
[03:07] <Hollowman> thanks
[03:07] <thoreauputic> theneonshadow: cedega is not part of ubuntu - so it's unlikely you'll get help here - hence my suggestion of the Cedega wiki page
[03:07] <theneonshadow> is there an easier way to install things other than entering 'gunzip -c' thing
[03:08] <theneonshadow> thoreauputic: yeah i got it
[03:08] <cello123> _jason: nope.. "invoke-rc.d: initsript gdm, action "reload" failed."
[03:08] <GNU32> bah, i'll just get a different mpg to vcd program.
[03:08] <navarone> phiber-optic, more than likely a server issue
[03:08] <thoreauputic> theneonshadow: for things in ubuntu - you use synaptic and click away :)
[03:08] <phiber-optic> the funny thing it was working
[03:09] <phiber-optic> then I uninstalled clock synchronizations at startup and the int stopped working
[03:09] <theneonshadow> thereauputic: oh yeah.... i knew that... off the add meds... :(
[03:10] <navarone> phiber are you using Sidecandy?
[03:10] <_adub> is there a repository search for ubuntu
[03:10] <phiber-optic> is there a way to change servers or somehitng?
[03:10] <_jason> cello123, you've rebooted?
[03:10] <phiber-optic> yeahh
[03:10] <thoreauputic> _adub: packages.ubuntu.com - or install the firefox package search engine :)
[03:11] <cello123> _jason: about to.
[03:11] <navarone> phiber Sidecandy gets it's info from weather.yahoo.com
[03:11] <gach> hi
[03:11] <GNU32> thoreau[utic: firefox package search engine? sounds usefull
[03:11] <phiber-optic> yeah I check weather yahoo
[03:11] <gach> i have some problems installing breezy
[03:11] <phiber-optic> and it is working for montreal
[03:11] <gach> i have an ati motherborad
[03:11] <gach> and it gets freezed when its loading hotplug
[03:11] <gach> any ideas?
[03:11] <thoreauputic> GNU32: yes I just discovered it yesterday - it's one of the options in "add search engines"
[03:12] <ki4ikl> *facepalms* LINKSYS can't even help me with my router problem, wtf
[03:12] <gach> hey... any ideas?
[03:12] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem, linux automounts and shows the filesystem and it will look like it works till i try to play them and they dont exist, when i reconnect the psp they still dont exist?
[03:12] <crimsun> gach: do you have a high definition audio chipset on that motherboard?
[03:12] <gach> yes i do
[03:12] <cello123> _jason: rebooted. not looking good. gdm fails again
[03:13] <gach> but i use gentoo and i dont have that problem
[03:13] <phiber-optic> any other ideas
[03:13] <phiber-optic> ??
[03:13] <gach> crimsun i have the azalia one
[03:13] <thoreauputic> GNU32: at the bottom of the drop-down from the search field in FF
[03:13] <_jason> cello123, try your question every half hour or so for a few hours... maybe someone that knows more can help you out
[03:13] <navarone> phiber-optic, nope
[03:13] <crimsun> gach: follow these instructions, but everywhere you see ca0106, substitute hda-intel. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[03:13] <Felix15> Hey I have a .cc file and was wondering how to get vim to recognize and colour code the c++ code
[03:14] <crimsun> gach: for now, you need to blacklist the snd-hda-intel model
[03:14] <gach> crimsun i cant eve boot
[03:14] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[03:14] <crimsun> gach: disable the sound in bios for now.
[03:14] <gach> ok
[03:14] <gach> thanks
[03:14] <ki4ikl> can anyone help me, at all, it says i'm connected, but it just wont connect to a website
[03:14] <cello123> _jason: at this rate i'll be working out how to back up everything on /home to a flash drive and reinstall ubuntu proper.
[03:14] <Hollowman> how can i get the wheel on my mouse to work?
[03:14] <joseph> how do I install quicktime support?
[03:14] <_jason> cello123, I was going to suggest that as well
[03:14] <Hollowman> i think it got disabled somehow
[03:14] <cello123> _jason: that's kind of sad really
[03:14] <theneonshadow> how do i add a new thing to install with the Synaptic Package Manager.
[03:15] <_jason> cello123, well you've learned a valuable lesson... don't run random scripts with sudo
[03:15] <cello123> bbut it was on sourceforge
[03:15] <xenon_> Can anyone help me with a little detail about rausb0 setup?
[03:15] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem, linux automounts and shows the filesystem and it will look like it works till i try to play them and they dont exist, when i reconnect the psp they still dont exist?
[03:16] <Delvien> Anyone know any hacks/tricks to extend battery life... im only getting 2 hours on linux and 4 on windows  :(
[03:16] <Hollowman> how can i get the wheel on my mouse to work?
[03:16] <Hollowman> i think it got disabled somehow
[03:16] <_jason> cello123, didn't they have the source for you to download and build?  you are probably better off doing that
[03:16] <joseph> how do I install quicktime support?
[03:16] <bshumate> Felix15: you need the proper directives in your ~/.vimrc file.  see www.dotfiles.com for some good example .vimrc files with syntax colors enabled
[03:16] <jhenn> whats a good nes emulator for ubuntu (ppc)?
[03:16] <_jason> ubotu, tell joseph about w32codecs
[03:17] <joseph> _jason: I have w32codecs installed.  but this is not working check it out http://www.apple.com/intel/ads/
[03:17] <cello123> _jason: being that it is a script, there was nothing to compile
[03:17] <cello123> _jason: http://gprename.sourceforge.net/
[03:18] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem, linux automounts and shows the filesystem and it will look like it works till i try to play them and they dont exist, when i reconnect the psp they still dont exist? anyone???
[03:18] <_jason> cello123, the install script isn't too long, I'm gonna read it.  Try reading it as well, maybe we can figure out what went wrong.  Did you say it crashed when you typed ./install (can't remember)
[03:18] <joseph> _jason:  I have w32codecs installed but this is not working http://images.apple.com/movies/us/apple/intel/intel20060110_h.640.mov
[03:18] <_jason> joseph, what player
[03:18] <supergee> Anyone know how to disable dmix? I tried creating a file as .asoundrc to do it, but it didn't work. :( wengophone won't work and keeps saying my soundcard is busy
[03:18] <joseph> _jason:  I'm using epiphany with mplayer plug-in
[03:19] <crimsun> supergee: just specify the [virtual] device that's not dmix, e.g., plughw:0,0
[03:19] <cello123> _jason: it installed, but then gnome took a nosedive. gnome panels died and the icons reverted to the basic gnome ones
[03:19] <shevegen> Hi. I am trying to install Dapper Drake on a notebook, the default display does not work, I think I need something like vesafb or so. Can I pass an option somehow to enable this?
[03:19] <supergee> crimsun, hm, yeah, I tried it, it gives a list of sound devices, but each one says the device is busy for some reason :(
[03:19] <Delvien> Anyone know any hacks/tricks to extend battery life... im only getting 2 hours on linux and 4 on windows  :( ??
[03:19] <crimsun> supergee: lsof /dev/dsp* /dev/snd/*
[03:19] <supergee> crimsun, and they aren't busy because xmms works fine
[03:19] <supergee> ok
[03:19] <crimsun> supergee: pastebin
[03:20] <supergee> mixer_app 8760 torque   36u   CHR  116,0      6924 /dev/snd/controlC0
[03:20] <pestilence> joseph: won't play for me either. must be a new quicktime decoder?
[03:20] <_jason> joseph, not playing for me either, about to say the same thing as pestilence
[03:20] <supergee> mixer_app?
[03:20] <supergee> hm
[03:20] <crimsun> supergee: is xmms configured to use alsa, esd, or oss?
[03:20] <supergee> crimsun, alsa
[03:21] <crimsun> supergee: mixer_app is the Volume Control applet in GNOME
[03:21] <joseph> _jason: it's the Apple advertisement showing MacOS on Intel
[03:21] <supergee> aha, ok
[03:21] <joseph> how do I enable flash and java on my browser?
[03:21] <crimsun> supergee: and which device is the alsa output plugin configured to use?
[03:21] <nbound> crimsun, you can change i in options
[03:21] <crimsun> nbound: I'm aware of that.
[03:21] <pestilence> !java
[03:21] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:21] <nbound> so if it doesnt work mess with it until it does? ;)
[03:21] <pestilence> !flash
[03:21] <ubotu> well, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[03:22] <supergee> crimsun, it looks like 0,0
[03:22] <pestilence> !javadebs
[03:22] <crimsun> supergee: not "default"?
[03:22] <supergee> crimsun, er, it is default, but I thought that was the same
[03:22] <shevegen> let me ask in another way :) Does anyone know a site with boot options to ubuntu? listings, like quiet, or rw and so on
[03:22] <crimsun> nbound: -ECONTEXT
[03:22] <Hollowman> how can i get the wheel on my mouse to work?
[03:22] <Hollowman> i think it got disabled somehow
[03:22] <crimsun> supergee: "default" != hw:0,0 in Breezy
[03:22] <supergee> crimsun, What is default in Breezy?
[03:22] <crimsun> supergee: default is dmix
[03:23] <supergee> ahh
[03:23] <supergee> ok
[03:23] <theneonshadow>  what was the name of that program that allows windows programs on linux?
[03:23] <supergee> theneonshadow, wine
[03:23] <theneonshadow> i closed the window on acident :(
[03:23] <theneonshadow> thans
[03:23] <_jason> cello123, that script looks like all it does is copy things to /usr/local/shar/gprename so i don't really know how it can make your gnome crash?
[03:24] <_jason> cello123, did you actually get to run the program
[03:24] <cello123> _jason: no.
[03:24] <cello123> _jason: i had to force shutdown when gnome panels etc stopped
[03:25] <cello123> _jason: that may have been the wrong thing to do..
[03:25] <nbound> if i can transfer files to my PSP in win but not linux whats the problem, linux automounts and shows the filesystem and it will look like it works till i try to play them and they dont exist, when i reconnect the psp they still dont exist? anyone??? ='( (i think its a problem with the VFAT file system the PSP uses)
[03:26] <joseph> what is GIJ and how is it different than java?
[03:27] <timfrost> nbound, what mount options are shown for the PSP?  Most likely, the user and umask need to be reset.
[03:27] <cello123> thanks for the help
[03:27] <nvez> Hey guys, anyone know's what's a good PHP IDE for Ubuntu?
[03:27] <nbound> timfrost, ive tryed as root and it still didnt work... what is umask?
[03:28] <SolPhoenix> Okay...  I need some help getting wireless to work from Ubuntu.  I have the Intel Centrino 2200 BG or whatever.
[03:29] <_jason> cello123, you could always try installing kdm...
[03:29] <SolPhoenix> I've found http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623 but I don't know where to get the needed packages.
[03:29] <timfrost> nbound, umask is a mask that forces certain permission bits off.  Try 'mount -oremount,rw,umask=000,user=<your ID> <PSP dev>'
[03:29] <jhenn> whats a good NES emulator for ubuntu?
[03:29] <nbound> timfrost, it automounts
[03:29] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: in Breezy?
[03:30] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: Yeah.
[03:30] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: just enable universe and install the wpasupplicant package
[03:30] <nbound> timfrost, its read like a mem stick or card reader
[03:30] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: I presume that you /are/ trying to use WPA/2, correct? (wpasupplicant isn't needed for WEP)
[03:30] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: I'm just trying to get the WEP to work.
[03:30] <joseph> what is GIJ and how is it different than java?
[03:30] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: then forget those instructions
[03:30] <SolPhoenix> The driver supplied with Ubuntu isn't working.
[03:31] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: it works fine
[03:31] <timfrost> nbound, I know.  The command I typed is for atfer it has mounted, to see if those options make a difference.  If it does make a difference, then we update the settings for the automounter
[03:31] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: paste your /etc/network/interfaces on pastebin
[03:31] <nbound> timfrost, oh ok
[03:32] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: I'm not on Ubuntu currently.  I could reboot and then come back to chat on another computer, though.
[03:32] <nbound> timfrost, what goes in the psp dev bit of Try 'mount -oremount,rw,umask=000,user=<your ID> <PSP dev>'
[03:32] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: that would help
[03:32] <SolPhoenix> BRB.
[03:33] <timfrost> nbound, either the device name or the mount point (/media/PSP or similar)
[03:33] <mahangu_> gnutella client for ubuntu?
[03:33] <nbound> timfrost, ohhh ok
[03:33] <mahangu_> don't say gtk-gnutella
[03:33] <mahangu_> it sucks
[03:33] <mahangu_> :)
[03:34] <mahangu_> :P
[03:34] <mahangu_> crimsun, ive tried mutella, etc
[03:34] <mahangu_> im wondering if there is a third party app i can compile or something
[03:35] <crimsun> --> Google
[03:35] <punkrockguy318> Whenever I do anything X11 related (screensaver, resizing a window, the logout/sudo fadeouts, my CPU usage jumps to 100%.  I'm using a nVidia GeForce 4.  Is this normal?  Shouldn't that kind of work being done by my gfx card not my cpu?
[03:35] <armosfighter> i cant find a place to download GLIB 1.2.2 or later any suggestions?
[03:35] <nbound> timfrost, nope =(
[03:35] <crimsun> armosfighter: dude, I told you an hour ago. sudo apt-get install libglib1.2-dev
[03:36] <nalioth> armosfighter: in a console, type "apt-cache search glib"
[03:36] <paul_> hi i have large font sizes in alot of things such as amsn and kubuntu
[03:36] <timfrost> nbound, that didn't work at all?
[03:36] <nvez> "Apache/2.0.54 (Ubuntu) mod_auth_kerb/5.0-rc6 DAV/2 SVN/1.2.0 mod_jk2/2.0.4 mod_ldap_userdir/1.1.7 mod_python/3.1.3 Python/2.4.2 PHP/5.0.5-2ubuntu1.1 proxy_html/2.4 mod_ruby/1.2.4 Ruby/1.8.3(2005-06-23) Server at localhost Port 80"
[03:36] <nvez> hehe
[03:36] <paul_> also on the login screen when i enter my name and password the font size is huge
[03:36] <nbound> timfrost, it work, but its exactly the same prob as before
[03:36] <nvez> paul_, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118348 -- Same problem?
[03:36] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[03:36] <paul_> yes
[03:37] <timfrost> nbound, in that case, I am stumped:(
[03:37] <SolPhoenix> Okay... I'm back.
[03:37] <SolPhoenix> crimsun, What did you want me to check?
[03:37] <paul_> nvez, yes
[03:37] <nbound> timfrost, it mounts and seems to write to it, but doesnt (the writing bit is far to wuick on psp screen)
[03:37] <armosfighter> well it couldnt find the package
[03:37] <nbound> quick*
[03:37] <nvez> No idea, see if someone posted at that post, but I have no clue myself.
[03:38] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: pastebin your /etc/network/interfaces
[03:38] <paul_> aww
[03:38] <paul_> thanks anyways
[03:38] <nbound> /dev/sdb1 on /media/usbdisk type vfat (rw,nosuid,nodev,quiet,shortname=winnt,uid=1000,gid=1000,umask=077,iocharset=utf8)
[03:38] <nbound> thats what i get
[03:38] <nbound> if i juts type mount
[03:40] <nbound> u sex then u sulk =/
[03:40] <timfrost> nbound, if your uid is 1000, that *should* be correct.
[03:41] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: the part for the wireless starts out "iface eth1 inet dhcp" and then has my essid and WEP key.
[03:41] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: sanitise it, then pastebin it
[03:41] <nbound> timfrost, well it looks like ive found something where i have to use a windows box for still =(
[03:41] <SolPhoenix> I can't paste it... since I'm not online in Ubuntu.  I'm chatting on another PC.
[03:42] <_avatar> my "Places" menu has a blank entry... when I click it it nautilus pops up to the network browser. can i rename this blank entry? Its really bugging me.
[03:42] <hydroksyde_work> is there a console mode utility to set an IP for the machine?
[03:42] <_jason> _avatar, have you checked the bookmarks in nautilus?
[03:43] <_avatar> _jason: yeah, it has a name in the bookmarks section of nautilus. just not in the "Places" menu
[03:43] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: type it out
[03:43] <timfrost> hydroksyde_work, yes.  ifconfig eth0 ...
[03:43] <PovAddict> hi
[03:43] <_jason> _avatar, have you tried deleting it there and recreating it maybe?
[03:43] <PovAddict> I'm trying to install Ubuntu in Microsoft Virtual PC
[03:43] <PovAddict> but i'm getting this error during installation: http://pastebin.com/509234
[03:43] <KoruptidPryde> crimsun, speaking of network settings... is there an if command to check what the gateway is?
[03:44] <wastrel> anyone know how i can access the removable memory stick in my sony clie from my ubu system?
[03:44] <_avatar> _jason, just tried, didn't fix it. but i did fix it by renaming it again... even though it already had a name. oh well, whatever. thanks :)
[03:44] <brasko> Just to share my solution, I've asked several times here how to map arbirtrary keybindings to arbitrary commands in gnome
[03:44] <KoruptidPryde> PovAddict, won't work... try slackware.... I've used slackware in msvpc before
[03:44] <SolPhoenix> mapping hotplug
[03:44] <brasko> The answer is to use gconf-editor
[03:44] <SolPhoenix>    script grep
[03:44] <SolPhoenix>    map eth0
[03:44] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: pastebin, not here
[03:44] <brasko> and modify /apps/metacity/keybinding_commands/command_1 and /apps/metacity/global_keybindings/run_command_1
[03:44] <SolPhoenix> iface eth1 inet dhcp
[03:44] <rixth> sofa, you there?
[03:44] <PovAddict> KoruptidPryde: it's sad, after all the time it took to download :(
[03:44] <sofa> rixth: yeah
[03:45] <limer> hey guys
[03:45] <PovAddict> KoruptidPryde: actually, I'm using msvpc to try it out and if I like it, I'll go dual-boot
[03:45] <timfrost> KoruptidPryde, netstat -nr -prits the routing table.  The gateway is the line starting 0.0.0.0
[03:45] <hyphenated> PovAddict: that's what the live cd is for :-p
[03:46] <crimsun> KoruptidPryde: use route(8)
[03:46] <PovAddict> I want to try it while my MSN Messenger still works... :D
[03:46] <armosfighter> when i did sudo apt-get install libhlibl.2-dev it couldnt find it
[03:46] <PovAddict> VPC looked like the best way to do it
[03:46] <armosfighter> where can i download it
[03:46] <hyphenated> can you really not spend a few minutes without messenger?
[03:46] <armosfighter> im really new at this
[03:46] <crimsun> KoruptidPryde: or if you prefer an inclusive way, use ip route
[03:46] <PovAddict> lol
[03:46] <hikenboot> is there a switch on dpkg for verbose output?
[03:46] <hikenboot> i cant seem to find one in the man pages
[03:47] <armosfighter> meh
[03:47] <crimsun> armosfighter: pastebin the result you get from ``apt-cache policy libglib1.2-dev''
[03:47] <rikai> hm, how do i get an ethernet inerface to see a change to /etc/resolv.conf?
[03:48] <Shadyman> Hey guys, is there an application where you can configure your ACPI settings? When i press my lid-close button, the screen flickers from off to no-light to off to.. etc
[03:48] <progrock> my sound stopped working in a lot of programs... Mplayer, firefox, among others... anyone know where to start to fix this?
[03:48] <PovAddict> well, so there is no way to get Ubuntu working in msvpc?
[03:48] <KoruptidPryde> PovAddict, that's what I have heard
[03:48] <_jason> progrock, have you since rebooted?
[03:48] <uber_spaced> what utility should I use to unpack a rar archive?
[03:49] <PovAddict> http://vpc.visualwin.com/ Ubuntu is in this unofficial list...
[03:49] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: http://pastebin.com/509247
[03:49] <hyphenated> PovAddict: did you try google to see if there were any mentions of "ubuntu" and "Virtual PC" on the same page?
[03:49] <MrPockets> is there a setting in XMMS that makes it go to the next song on the play list after a songs finished?
[03:49] <MrPockets> it used to, but now it doesnt
[03:49] <bimberi> uber_spaced: unrar-free (from universe) or unrar-nonfree (from multiverse)
[03:49] <progrock> _jason, I've restarted recently.... just realized sound is working in firefox.. but its rediculously low... used to be much louder
[03:49] <uber_spaced> thanks.
[03:49] <armosfighter> libglib1.2-dev:
[03:49] <armosfighter>   Installed: (none)
[03:49] <armosfighter>   Candidate: (none)
[03:49] <armosfighter>   Version table:
[03:49] <bimberi> uber_spaced: yw :)
[03:49] <armosfighter> meh
[03:49] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: is your key in ascii or hex?
[03:49] <_jason> progrock, double click on the sound icon and check the volume settings there
[03:49] <zerodni> hey guys
[03:49] <PovAddict> hypenated: I found Ubuntu in a list of 3000 OS's that have been tested in VPC
[03:49] <crimsun> armosfighter: enable the main repository
[03:50] <progrock> _jason, sounds all the way up
[03:50] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: hex
[03:50] <blacks> how can I control what mixer/knob the volume control keys on my keyboard control? (in gnome)
[03:50] <armosfighter> how do i do that?
[03:50] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: so an ``sudo ifup eth1'' fails?
[03:50] <_jason> progrock, you double clicked and check all the channel?
[03:50] <progrock> _jason, oh... PCM was down.. lol.. thanks
[03:50] <PovAddict> lol
[03:50] <crimsun> armosfighter: System> Administration> Synaptic [..]  > Settings> Repositories
[03:50] <bimberi> blacks: right-click -> Preferences
[03:51] <bimberi> blacks: (guessing)
[03:51] <zerodni> hey i was wondering has anyone noticed that in ubuntu if your are using bash in xterm that if you tab for autocompelte it only works for the first command
[03:51] <blacks> bimberi, its not the same mixer thing as the icon by the notification area
[03:51] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: Yes.
[03:52] <progrock> In MPlayer when i'm playing video the fullscreen and zoom features dont work (they simply stetch a blank screen and keep the video the sasme size
[03:52] <bimberi> blacks: k, sry
[03:52] <SolPhoenix> crimsun: It gets stuck on DHCPDISCOVER
[03:52] <punkrockguy318> Ugh 500 fps on glxgears? :-\
[03:52] <_jason> progrock, are you using 'xv' as the video output?
[03:52] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Hah.
[03:52] <crimsun> SolPhoenix: try using the iwconfig directives directly, then
[03:52] <eugman> Hey what is the worst thing that could happen to a computer if the website it's running is comprimised.
[03:52] <progrock> _jason, how do i check that?
[03:52] <_jason> progrock, are you using mplayer or gmplayer?
[03:52] <nvez> Someone having troubles with wireless? :-P
[03:52] <Shadyman> eugman: Depends if you're running Windows or not ;)
[03:53] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: I don't know what it is.  My x config has glx, nvidia, and my card is supported by the driver
[03:53] <blacks> eugman, local compromise leading to elevated priviliges, and installation of a rootkit you'll never find
[03:53] <progrock> _jason,  gmplayer i believe
[03:53] <KoruptidPryde> SolPhoenix, that usually means you have the wrong encryption key entered
[03:53] <nvez> What does iwconfig give back (pastebin please.)
[03:53] <zerodni> dose any one know how to get autocomplete to work all the time in bash shell
[03:53] <_jason> progrock, preferences -> video
[03:53] <eugman> Ah k. Was wondering what the worst that could happen is.
[03:54] <blacks> well I suppose it could try to re-write your bios or something like that too, hehe
[03:54] <progrock> _jason, x11 is selected
[03:54] <_jason> progrock, choose xv
[03:54] <jwilliams> Hi all.  Does anyone know how to extract one's public key from the gnome-keyring daemon?  I have been googling for this information to no avail
[03:55] <nvez> SolPhoenix, Care to create a pastebin with what 'iwconfig' gives back?
[03:55] <Knelix> So, I just installed 5.10 and I'm trying to re-install my NVIDIA driver...
[03:55] <mkyb14> is there a program that i can use to magnify my screen so that if i'm sitting further back that i can see it??
[03:55] <nvez> Okay, Knelix ?
[03:55] <armosfighter> crimsun... i typed that in and i still get nothing
[03:56] <Knelix> I'm following the directions at the forums.
[03:56] <blacks> mkyb14, try a smaller screen resolution
[03:56] <Knelix> And I still can't install it.
[03:56] <Knelix> Honestly.
[03:56] <mkyb14> anything simplier?
[03:56] <Knelix> It's so annoying.
[03:56] <nvez> Hold on a second, Knelix.
[03:56] <progrock> _jason, do i have to reboot or anything.. since the fullscreen/double size is stil not working
[03:56] <_jason> progrock, did you restart mplayer?
[03:56] <Knelix> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75074 is where I'm looking at.
[03:56] <mkyb14> i'm sitting on my bed watching a mover and i'd like to be able to see gaim
[03:57] <mkyb14> so i was looking fro something to magnify the screen or something
[03:57] <blacks> mkyb14, try the assistive technologies control panel
[03:57] <mkyb14> wheres that
[03:57] <nvez> Knelix, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia < This is definetly easier.
[03:57] <blacks> system->preferences
[03:57] <deltab> mkyb14: System > Preferences > Assistive Techonologies Support
[03:57] <nvez> Tell me if you have troubles with that, but its 5x easier. :-)
[03:57] <rikai> Okay, i'm having a really strange issue, a  friend of mine has an actiontec router that he uses for his verizon dsl to access hte inernet. at first, the internet wouln't work at all, but diabling ipv6 in firefox allowed him to vew web pages, and nothing else. i thought it was jsut ipv6 not working, so i had him disable ipv6 systemwide, which didnt work. I think it may be something relating to /etc/resolv.conf,, but i dont know wha
[03:57] <rikai> t to do at this point or how to fix it, anyone have any idea what i should do?
[03:58] <progrock> _jason, oh, thought i did.. pparently not.. now i get a fatal error"Error openeing/initializing the seleced video_out(-vo) device
[03:58] <punkrockguy318> This is great.. When my cpu is working, i'm getting 6 fps on glxgears
[03:58] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Nice.
[03:58] <_jason> progrock, lol great, have you installed your video drivers?
[03:58] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: I think my laptop with no-name video controller beats you ;)
[03:58] <punkrockguy318> _jason: yeah, my card is supporting and my xconf is loading nvidia and glx...
[03:58] <progrock> _jason, yeah.. fglrx
[03:59] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: my card isn't that bad.. nvidia geforce4 mmx
[03:59] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: my card shouldn't be hogging my cpu usage should it?
[04:00] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: No.
[04:00] <_jason> progrock, can you change it back to x11 or does mplayer just crash
[04:00] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Maybe a little bit, but not like that.
[04:00] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: what could be the problem?
[04:00] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Do you have the drivers installed?
[04:00] <nvez> How is it going, Knelix? :)
[04:00] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: yes, and glx is loaded and so is nvidia
[04:01] <bradley_> hello!
[04:01] <jtaylor> how do i get glxgears to show fps?
[04:01] <progrock> _jason, it switchs back no problem
[04:01] <bradley_> can anyone give me an idea on how to configure openssh?
[04:01] <SolPhoenix> iwconfig returns http://pastebin.com/509258
[04:01] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Not a clue, then. sorry
[04:01] <punkrockguy318> jtaylor: glxgears -printfps
[04:01] <_jason> progrock, okay let's see if we can figure out why you get that error
[04:01] <punkrockguy318> Shadyman: could it be a hardware problem?
[04:01] <nvez> "Access Point: 00:00:00:00:00:00"
[04:01] <nvez> You're not connected to your network, SolPhoenix.
[04:01] <Shadyman> punkrockguy318: Doubtful.
[04:01] <SolPhoenix> Someone had me do an "iwlist scan" earlier...  It said "no scan results"
[04:02] <punkrockguy318> bradley_: what would you like to do?  it's all in /etc/ssh/*
[04:02] <nvez> Try it again, if it says the same that means some driver troubles.
[04:02] <progrock> _jason,  ok, tho i dont even know where to start... more or less a newbie... with some random experience
[04:02] <bradley_> punkrockguy318: i would like to use it to connect to another linux box to access a mysql database.
[04:03] <nvez> err, bradley_, it should be kinda functionining
[04:03] <nvez> ps -A and check for "sshd"
[04:03] <_jason> progrock, gedit ~/.mpalyer/config
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> bradley_: if you want a permenant connection, look into mounting through sftp.  if not, you should be able to do it all with command-line utilities (ssh, scp, sftp)
[04:04] <bradley_> nvez: i just installed openssh... how do i connect to it from another box?
[04:04] <nvez> If it's installed then
[04:04] <nvez> From another linux box
[04:04] <punkrockguy318> bradley_: ssh <user>@<address>
[04:04] <nvez> "ssh -l username hostname.com
[04:04] <SolPhoenix> nvez: I know that I'm not connected...  I can't even connect with my normal ethernet card.
[04:04] <progrock> _jason, ok, the files empty.. just has a comment
[04:04] <_jason> progrock, ok in a new line: zoom=yes
[04:05] <nvez> SolPhoenix, software problem then, not even your ethernet card, did you have some troubles with it in Windows XP?
[04:05] <nvez> Or any other OS.
[04:05] <progrock> _jason, ok
[04:05] <_jason> progrock, save and reopen gmplayer
[04:05] <SolPhoenix> nvez: None at all...
[04:05] <nvez> Did you have to run it sometimes at 10MB?
[04:05] <odat> anyone know of a good way to get my ip address ( by the way i'm on a router )
[04:05] <nvez> odat, whatismyip.com
[04:06] <nvez> If you want your public IP.
[04:06] <CentHOGG> ifconfig
[04:06] <nvez> Private IP, then ifconfig.
[04:06] <SolPhoenix> nvez: Not that I know.
[04:06] <nvez> SolPhoenix, is your ethernet connected now?
[04:06] <progrock> _jason, well, i can zoom now, lol, thank you
[04:06] <_jason> progrock, yep np
[04:07] <bradley_> what's the default port for ssh?
[04:07] <nvez> 22
[04:07] <odat> thanx
[04:07] <CentHOGG> 21 around there
[04:07] <SolPhoenix> nvez: Not currently.  I could, though.
[04:07] <bradley_> thank you
[04:07] <progrock> _jason, I guess no point in attepting to get xv to work since x11 is?
[04:07] <nvez> SolPhoenix, well, if you can try to, as setting up ethernet is way easier than wireless on linux.
[04:07] <_jason> progrock, yeah has something to do with the drivers
[04:08] <nvez> SolPhoenix, though were you able to access local network while being on Ethernet?
[04:08] <progrock> _jason, lol.. guessi  should expect that with ati.. anyway, thanks again
[04:08] <CentHOGG> what happened with ATI?
[04:09] <bradley_> how do you change the default port in ssh?
[04:09] <nvez> bradley_, I'm sure it's in OpenSSH's configuration
[04:09] <nvez> Hold on, let me look.
[04:09] <bradley_> ok
[04:09] <bradley_> i'll look into it... thanks for the help nvez
[04:10] <ejofee> how do i make sound available in... two accounts at the same time?
[04:10] <SolPhoenix> nvez: I simply tried connecting the ethernet to my router.  It failed.
[04:10] <nvez> So, it's connected VIA ethernet now?
[04:10] <SolPhoenix> nvez: Yes.
[04:11] <nvez> Okay, pastebin -> ifconfig
[04:11] <Knelix> nvez, thanks... looking now...
[04:11] <nvez> NP.
[04:12] <hav0k> hello
[04:13] <hav0k> anyone here?
[04:13] <armosfighter> im here
[04:13] <cyphase> lol
[04:13] <rikai> Okay, i'm having a really strange issue, a  friend of mine has an actiontec router that he uses for his verizon dsl to access hte inernet. at first, the internet wouln't work at all, but diabling ipv6 in firefox allowed him to vew web pages, and nothing else. i thought it was jsut ipv6 not working, so i had him disable ipv6 systemwide, which didnt work. I think it may be something relating to /etc/resolv.conf,, but i dont know wha
[04:13] <rikai> t to do at this point or how to fix it, anyone have any idea what i should do?
[04:13] <nvez> here too
[04:13] <hav0k> ok, just kidding
[04:13] <cyphase> yes, a lor of people are here
[04:13] <cyphase> lot*
[04:13] <cyphase> :)
[04:14] <nvez> rikai, what are his DNS servers set to?
[04:14] <Corrupter> what is the command to format a hard drive?
[04:14] <nvez> Corrupter, fdisk.
[04:14] <w0rd54> Corrupter: mke2fs /dev/hda1
[04:14] <w0rd54> Corrupter: example ^^^ ext2
[04:14] <nvez> night guys.
[04:14] <armosfighter> *** The glib-config script installed by GLIB could not be found
[04:14] <w0rd54> or ext3 mke2fs -j /dev/hda1
[04:14] <armosfighter> *** If GLIB was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in
[04:14] <armosfighter> *** your path, or set the GLIB_CONFIG environment variable to the
[04:14] <armosfighter> *** full path to glib-config.
[04:14] <armosfighter> configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first
[04:14] <_jason> !pastebin
[04:14] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:14] <w0rd54> armosfighter: www.google.com
[04:14] <armosfighter> i still havent figured that situation out
[04:14] <armosfighter> lol
[04:14] <armosfighter> i know
[04:14] <armosfighter> but...
[04:14] <armosfighter> i cant find anything
[04:15] <rikai> nvez, err, one was set to his router, and one was set to some dns, i had him use 4.4.4.1 and 4.4.4.2 for now, which are some well known level3 dns servers.
[04:15] <Shadyman> !poaste
[04:15] <armosfighter> : -(
[04:15] <_jason> !enter
[04:15] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:15] <ubotu> Shadyman: What?
[04:15] <CentHOGG> anybody here good at slimming down ubuntu to like 500 apps?
[04:15] <w0rd54> armosfighter: www
[04:15] <w0rd54> armosfighter: google
[04:15] <w0rd54> armosfighter: com
[04:15] <benplaut> yay!
[04:15] <nvez> yeah, I have no clue if you have level3 dns servers.
[04:15] <Shadyman> !enter
[04:15] <ejofee> how do i make sound available in... two accounts at the same time?
[04:15] <armosfighter> merrr
[04:15] <benplaut> i've progressed one step farther into the linux world by actually using /dev/null for something :D
[04:15] <Shadyman> benplaut: Congrats :)
[04:16] <blacks> cat /dev/null > benplaut
[04:16] <Shadyman> benplaut: That's where I send all my bills ;)
[04:16] <benplaut> heh
[04:16] <BxL> is there any way I can make my logitech quickcam work in ubuntu? with the microphone and all?
[04:16] <SolPhoenix> nvez: http://pastebin.com/509271
[04:16] <cyphase> What does everyone think about Gaim (or maybe a daemon) creating a D-BUS interface to the IM networks?
[04:16] <hav0k> im trying to resize my linux partition, and ive booted up off a live cd and opened up qtparted, but when i choose the partition, it says the status is "readonly."  how can i change this so that i can resize the partition?
[04:17] <cyphase> so that any program can use the sinle connection
[04:17] <lysis> where do you recommend to get some really REALLY kickin background?  prefereably with a ubuntu theme to it.
[04:17] <cyphase> lysis, try art.ubuntu.com
[04:17] <cyphase> and art.gnome.org
[04:17] <_jason> ubotu, tell lysis about themes
[04:17] <lysis> thanks
[04:17] <rikai> nvez, any dns serverss hould work, ne?
[04:17] <cyphase> lysis, actually, there's a program that gives you an interface to art.gnome.org
[04:17] <_jason> lysis, try deviantart, there is nice stuff there.  For ubuntu stuff use the links ubotu sent you
[04:18] <cyphase> gnome-art-manager
[04:18] <rikai> nvez, http://help.lockergnome.com/lofiversion/index.php/t33278.html
[04:18] <hav0k> does anyone know how to change the permissions on a partition?
[04:18] <_jason> hav0k, is this a partition you mounted?
[04:18] <hav0k> the partition is not mounted... because im wanting to resize it.
[04:19] <cyphase> the package is art-manager i think
[04:19] <luisito> hello
[04:19] <_jason> hav0k, not sure what you mean by permissions then
[04:19] <hav0k> well, its has it listed as "readonly"
[04:20] <hav0k> in status of qtparted
[04:20] <luisito> anyone knows something abut cable modem uncapping?
[04:20] <_jason> hav0k, boot with a livedisk
[04:20] <hav0k> i have, im using knoppix
[04:20] <luisito> offtopic, I know...
[04:21] <_jason> hav0k, oh I don't know then.  I tried using synaptic for that same exact thing and wasn't sure what to do.  Popped in the ubuntu live and had it done in 2 seconds
[04:21] <cyphase> lysis, it's actually gnome-art (i checked this time :P)
[04:21] <hav0k> you resized a partition?
[04:21] <_jason> hav0k, yes
[04:21] <BxL> is there any way to make this webcam work in ubuntu? http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/FR,CRID=2204,CONTENTID=10136
[04:21] <_jason> hav0k, I used gparted though
[04:21] <SolPhoenix> I'm just wondering but could my router be the reason that I can't go online via ethernet or wireless in Ubuntu?
[04:21] <hav0k> with the ubuntu live cd?  does it have gparted on it
[04:21] <hav0k> ah
[04:22] <hav0k> maybe ill try that...  i have the ubuntu live cd... i just didnt know if gparted came on it
[04:22] <CentHOGG> hav0k: sposed too
[04:22] <_jason> hav0k, when I said synaptic above that probably made no sense... I meant knoppix :P
[04:22] <hav0k> alright, well, ill boot up with that and see if i have any better luck.
[04:22] <hav0k> yeah, not a whole lot
[04:22] <hav0k> alright, well i guess ill be back in a second.
[04:23] <skon> net split?
[04:24] <Corrupter> how do i delete a directory in command line?
[04:24] <Kyral> rmdir
[04:24] <Kyral> if its empty
[04:24] <skon> Corrupter: or rm -rf
[04:24] <Kyral> otherwise rm -rf
[04:24] <Corrupter> what if it has files in it?
[04:24] <skon> Corrupter: rm -rf
[04:24] <Kyral> rm -rf
[04:25] <Corrupter> k
[04:25] <JeffATL> does the livecd have a known root password?
[04:25] <_adub> where is there a repository search for ubuntu
[04:25] <skon> apt-cache search
[04:26] <skon> JeffATL: no
[04:26] <Shadyman> Hey guys, can anyone figure this out? It's an ACPI problem: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7236
[04:26] <RuthFan> Greetings. I have a question
[04:26] <skon> RuthFan: just ask
[04:26] <Corrupter> how do i make a file hidden from the command line
[04:26] <_adub> no other than apt-cache search i need to find apt sources to add to sources.list
[04:27] <progrock> how do i enable repeat in mplayer?
[04:27] <skon> Corrupter: name should start with .
[04:27] <_jason> Corrupter, precede it with a '.', so test becomes .test
[04:27] <CentHOGG> Corrupter: put a "." in front of it
[04:27] <RuthFan> I was able to connect to the internet, but unable to use internet applications.
[04:27] <JeffATL> skon: what about the password for user "ubuntu"?
[04:27] <Knelix> Thank you, nvez. Yes, this was much easier.
[04:27] <Corrupter> lol, ok, how do i rename it in command line?
[04:27] <_jason> Corrupter, mv old new
[04:27] <CentHOGG> RuthFan: duhhhh
[04:27] <MacSlow> Corrupter, e.g.: mv somefile .somefile
[04:27] <_jason> ubotu, tell Corrupter about cli
[04:27] <skon> JeffATL: hm, I'm not sure actually, don't use the LiveCD
[04:28] <JeffATL> skon: but i must
[04:28] <SolPhoenix> So is it not possible that I need a different wireless driver?
[04:28] <_jason> _adub, if you wanted a web-search: packages.ubuntu.com, otherwise synaptic and/or apt-cache search is what you want
[04:28] <MacSlow> Corrupter, you can also do it via the the UI (inside nautilus)
[04:28] <skon> JeffATL: I meant, I don't use it
[04:28] <JeffATL> skon: oh ok
[04:28] <MacSlow> Corrupter, you don't have to use the shell/commandline/cli/terminal
[04:29] <RuthFan> My dial up modem connected to my ISP, but I was unable to use Firefox or any other application. I connected for the first time tonight with Ubuntu 5.10
[04:29] <MacSlow> ups
[04:29] <BxL> is there any way to make this webcam work in ubuntu? http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm/products/details/CA/EN,CRID=2204,CONTENTID=10136
[04:29] <SolPhoenix> What else could cause it to not even report any scan results from "iwlist scan"
[04:29] <skon> BxL: is it listed with lsusb
[04:29] <CentHOGG> anybody here ubuntu PPC?
[04:30] <BxL> skon: yes
[04:30] <_jason> CentHOGG, it's best to just ask the question
[04:30] <BxL> skon: Bus 001 Device 003: ID 046d:08f5 Logitech, Inc.
[04:30] <skon> Bxl: so google those codes until you find a wiki or something....its bound to be supported
[04:30] <BxL> cool
[04:30] <akonkwa> Can anyone help me? I burned data on a dvd (movies) and now my computer can only read the first movies on the dvd, but from some point on, it can't read anything at all :s
[04:30] <CentHOGG> _jason: is it possible to make a hfs floppy come up automatically
[04:31] <SolPhoenix> I still have no earthly idea why I can't connect to the Internet via Ethernet or Wireless.
[04:31] <Cr0w> hello..which r the sources for the "testing" or "unstable" software for ubuntu?
[04:31] <_jason> CentHOGG, I didn't mean ask me, just ask the channel (sorry i don't know)
[04:31] <SolPhoenix> It's bugging me that I can't really use Ubuntu.
[04:31] <eclecticpc_> anyone know how to delete rythmbox settings / preferences
[04:31] <CentHOGG> _jason: save your energy dude
[04:31] <ardchoille> !help
[04:31] <skon> Bxl: make sure you install camorama (google it) and xawtv via apt-get
[04:32] <omar> hola soy un nuevo usuario de ubuntu
[04:32] <skon> !spanish
[04:32] <_jason> CentHOGG, what do you mean?
[04:32] <ubotu> [spanish]  Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[04:32] <omar> ok
[04:32] <skon> eclecticpc_: look in /home/username/.rhythmbox or something
[04:32] <RuthFan> Help please. While I'm connected to the internet, I keep getting "website not found" in firefox??
[04:32] <BxL> skon: okay, thanks
[04:32] <Pupeno> [ot]  quick poll: what name sounds best to you ? ErServers, ErlServers, Erlvers, Ervers ? (it's for a library written in ERLang to develop Servers)
[04:33] <skon> ErlServers
[04:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ErlServers
[04:33] <seadog409> ubotu tell crow about dapper
[04:33] <seadog409> ubotu tell cr0w about dapper
[04:34] <PuMpErNiCkLe> w00 - flight cd3 of Dapper is now available :o
[04:34] <akonkwa> Can anyone help me? I burned data on a dvd (movies) and now my computer can only read the first movies on the dvd, but from some point on, it can't read anything at all :s
[04:35] <Cr0w> seadog409, thanxs!
[04:35] <eclecticpc_> skon,  its not located there
[04:35] <linux_user400354> in synaptic, some packages have a ubuntu logo to the left of them. does this mean the package is on the ubuntu cd?
[04:35] <Bicchi> when is the latest version of banshee going to be backported?
[04:36] <mkyb14> how do you start the magnifier for ubuntu
[04:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> linux_user400354: No, it means it's recommended/supported/approved by the Ubuntu team.
[04:37] <pmaturana> Hi
[04:37] <seadog409> Cr0w: you can google or go to ubuntu.com for what you need to put in the sources.list file
[04:37] <skon> ubotu: tell cr0w about easysource
[04:37] <Cr0w> seadog409, i asked beacuse i dont find software..for example midnight commander..
[04:37] <nalioth> Cr0w: enable universe and multiverse repos
[04:38] <Kasts> voila! I have instaled ubuntu!
[04:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Cr0w about repos
[04:38] <Cr0w> ok, thanxs!! =)
[04:38] <skon> Kasts: congratulations, not easy for a n00b :-D
[04:38] <nrdb> my computer has stopped booting at "Loading Modules" with the error message "Buffer I/O error on devicd sdb, logical block 0" I have no scsi drive can anyone help?
[04:40] <Kasts> not easy, now I should fix things that dont work (video et cetera)
[04:40] <sebix> Hi, using Evolution, I would like to print all my tasks in one shot, with all the details, as when one right-click offers to print a task, but for all of them... is it possible?
[04:41] <linux_user400354> why does linux use PNG? Is it because PNG pictures are better than JPEG?
[04:41] <cafuego> nalioth: My iBook is online using WPA on Dapper.
[04:41] <poningru> linux_user400354: yes
[04:41] <nalioth> cafuego: yes, i've heard it's possible. cool!
[04:41] <poningru> linux_user400354: because jpeg is different use than png
[04:42] <cafuego> nalioth: 2.56.15-12 with a small custom patch did the trick.
[04:42] <blacks> PNG is freer, it also compresses vector art much nicer than jpeg
[04:42] <poningru> jpeg is for pictures and stuff png is for icons/clipart etc
[04:42] <a8s0lut0> i have ubuntu then installed windows, which wrote over Grub in MBR.  It seems like there are MULTIPLE easy solutions but none of them work
[04:42] <a8s0lut0> * PokeThePenguin has joined #ruslug
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 here's my issue: everyone of the simple fixes leads me to believe it's something to do with partitions, since all these progs say they can't even find (hd0,0) or /dev/hda
[04:42] <nalioth> cafuego: i understand all mac users will rejoice upon the release of dapper
[04:42] <cafuego> nalioth: They better ;-)
[04:42] <a8s0lut0> suggestions?
[04:42] <nalioth> a8s0lut0: why are you pasting crap in here/
[04:42] <poningru> rofl
[04:42] <a8s0lut0> sorry it all crapped out at once
[04:42] <a8s0lut0> hehe
[04:43] <skon> !enter
[04:43] <poningru> a8s0lut0: whats wrong?
[04:43] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:43] <a8s0lut0> but it's a serious issue i am asking hehe
[04:43] <a8s0lut0> just what i wrote.  i'm stuck in windows land
[04:43] <a8s0lut0> no more Grub choices
[04:43] <a8s0lut0> i'm a complete n--b
[04:43] <skon> !grub
[04:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:43] <a8s0lut0> sorry ubotu
[04:43] <skon> a8s0lut0: don't apologize to a robot
[04:44] <a8s0lut0> haha oops, me=n00b
[04:44] <skon> a8s0lut0: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows might be what you're looking for, dunno
[04:44] <progrock> anyone using gaim 2.0 from the cvs?
[04:44] <nrdb> my computer has stopped booting at "Loading Modules" with the error message "Buffer I/O error on devicd sdb, logical block 0" I have no scsi drive can anyone help?
[04:45] <a8s0lut0> i've come across alot of simliar help, sites and whatnot, but when i do what they want, my situation always leads me back to what i said in the last line of the shotgun paste
[04:45] <seadog409> ubotu tell a8s0lut0 about yourself
[04:45] <blacks> nrdb, do you have sata?
[04:45] <nrdb> blacks, no
[04:46] <a8s0lut0> yeah https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows is exactly what i need but what's with this situaiton where it can't find my /dev/hda, did i mess up partitioning?
[04:46] <Ap4ch3> nrdb what kind of disks do u have?
[04:47] <nrdb> Ap4ch3, ide only cdrom cdrw/dvdrom (floppy)
[04:47] <Syco54645> what is a good traffic limiter?
[04:47] <theneonshadow> How do i run the program WINE, or does it just work whenever you open a windows type file
[04:48] <nrdb> Syco54645, what traffic?
[04:48] <Ap4ch3> do u have a usb drive attached?....like a ipod other disk?
[04:48] <theneonshadow> How do i run the program WINE, or does it just work whenever you open a windows type file
[04:49] <Syco54645> my upstreams since if it goes high then i lose downstream
[04:49] <poningru> !tell theneonshadow about wine
[04:49] <seadog409> theneonshadow: wine <path to filename>
[04:49] <linux_user400354> has anyone got a webcam to work on ubuntu? i followed the directions at the ubuntu documentation. i guess that my webcam is not supported.
[04:50] <skon> linux_user400354: I have, what version do you have
[04:50] <Syco54645> linux_user400354: get gmeeting or what ever the gnome meeting thing is
[04:50] <volvoguy> hey all. does anyone know of an inexpensive colocated or virtual server service that allows you to use Ubuntu?
[04:50] <nrdb> Ap4ch3, that appears to be the trouble i forgot about the usb. thanks a lot.
[04:50] <bimberi> volvoguy: unixshell.com
[04:51] <volvoguy> bimberi, they list debian - are you sure they'll let you use Ubuntu?
[04:51] <owner> ubuntu is debian based
[04:51] <bimberi> volvoguy: they also list ubuntu (on the front page - 'bout half way down)
[04:52] <jonshea> Is there any easy way get streaming mp3 working (like .pls files)? I love Ubuntu with all my heart, but I'm dying without NPR. Something in the PLF repository, maybe?
[04:52] <_adub> they say multiverse has mplayer but it doesnt??
[04:52] <volvoguy> bimberi, oooh. i missed the obvious. thanks. :)
[04:52] <linux_user400354> "lsusb" finds my web cam --> Bus 001 Device 004: ID 046d:0840 Logitech, Inc. QuickCam Express
[04:52] <bimberi> volvoguy: yw :)
[04:52] <pestilence> _adub: mplayer-586 ?
[04:52] <_adub> cause i have multiverse activated and nothing comes up on the search
[04:53] <robotgeek> jonshea: rhythbox handles fine
[04:53] <blacks> _adub, be sure to update
[04:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _adub: Did you run apt-get update?
[04:53] <progrock> how do i add stuff to the top bar like an address line, etc
[04:53] <_adub> i believe so ill run it again
[04:53] <robotgeek> jonshea, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:53] <poningru> jonshea: look into rythmbox
[04:53] <nalioth> jonshea: have you enabled your machine with mp3 capability?
[04:53] <linux_user400354> skon: i dont know the version, the only thing i know is the output lsusb tells me
[04:53] <robotgeek> jonshea: install the decoders neccesary
[04:53] <_adub> ya im still not picking it up
[04:54] <_adub> what is the exact repositories i need to add
[04:54] <skon> linux_user400354: well put those codes into google and see what comes up
[04:54] <_jason> _adub, pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list, you jsut need multiverse
[04:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _adub: Multiverse.
[04:54] <poningru> _adub: multiverse
[04:54] <Cr0w-> nalioth, sorry..i dindt know that i can msg ubotu..sorry!
[04:54] <theneonshadow> can wine play wmv files? Yes yes i know the other ways to view wmv's on linux
[04:54] <jmhodges> hey, i've got this brand spanking new hard drive plugged in, and my BIOS detects it fine.. but i can't seem to figure out why Ubuntu isn't seein git.. i'm not even getting a /dev/hd* associated with it :(
[04:54] <linux_user400354> Syco54645, Gnomemeeting comes with Ubuntu, but I think I need a driver for gnomemeeting to use my cam
[04:54] <nalioth> _adub: in your /etc/apt/sources.list  find and replace "universe" for "universe multiverse" and then update your apt
[04:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jmhodges: Is it formatted?  Have you checked in GParted?
[04:55] <nalioth> Cr0w-: we learn things every day  :)
[04:55] <jmhodges> PuMpErNiCkLe: its not formatted.
[04:55] <poningru> jmhodges: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingANewHardDrive
[04:55] <nate__> hey, what's the terminal command to delete files?
[04:55] <jmhodges> PuMpErNiCkLe: no, i havent.. there's no device associated with it.. i'm not sure what to point any of those tgools at
[04:55] <jmhodges> poningru: ah, ill check there
[04:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jmhodges: Open (or install and open) GParted and check if it shows up.
[04:55] <robotgeek> nate__: rm
[04:55] <theneonshadow> can wine play wmv's?
[04:55] <nate__> kk thx robotgeek
[04:55] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell nate__ about cli
[04:56] <nate__> cli?
[04:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nate__ about cli
[04:56] <_jason> nate__, command line interface
[04:56] <nalioth> nate__: check your priv msgs
[04:56] <nate__> oh
[04:56] <nate__> like the terminal?
[04:56] <_jason> nate__, exactly
[04:56] <nate__> yea, i'm working in the terminal.  I've already done lots of working in the terminal, just never had the need to delete files via it :P
[04:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theneonshadow: If you install Windows Media Player.
[04:57] <poningru> nate__: what are you deleting?
[04:57] <theneonshadow> hm intersting theroy... i shoulda though of that
[04:57] <poningru> its just rm -r /path/to/file
[04:57] <jmhodges> poningru: i cant even do the first step.. its not showing up in my dmesg
[04:57] <jmhodges> PuMpErNiCkLe: im installing gparted nwo
[04:57] <poningru> jmhodges: you sure you restarted?
[04:57] <nate__> poningru, some files that require root access to delete, and i don't have root priveleges in nautilus nor do i know how to attain them
[04:57] <jmhodges> poningru: many times
[04:57] <poningru> nate__: sudo rm -r /path/to/file
[04:57] <gach> hey
[04:58] <nate__> thanks :)
[04:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jmhodges: k
[04:58] <jmhodges> PuMpErNiCkLe: installed.. its not there
[04:58] <poningru> jmhodges: hmm
[04:58] <gach> how do i ban hda-intel from hotplug
[04:58] <Friman> Um, can someone help, im in bit of a pickle....
[04:58] <gach> i really need help here
[04:58] <_jason> !helpme
[04:58] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[04:58] <dwhsix> any thoughts on a halfway-decent podcast aggregator for ubuntu?
[04:58] <speedy> isnt there mysql5 package for ubuntu?
[04:58] <jmhodges> poningru: it makes me think i've got a bad kernel or some such
[04:58] <dwhsix> ipodder seems to have morphed into juicer which doesn't have a linux download right now
[04:58] <poningru> jmhodges: no it cant be
[04:58] <Friman> I just installed ubuntu, and decided not to put an account, and now it wont let me log in as root
[04:59] <poningru> jmhodges: you sure bios detects it?
[04:59] <dwhsix> and the ipodder I'm running keeps making 0-byte files...
[04:59] <jonshea> robotgeek, poningru, nalioth: mp3 decoders seem to be the issue. Is it just a matter of figuring out the right package to apt-get?
[04:59] <Friman> it says root cannot log in through this screen
[04:59] <jmhodges> poningru: yep
[04:59] <gach> HELLO I NEED HELP
[04:59] <theneonshadow> with what Gach
[04:59] <gach> HOW DO I BAN HDA-INTEL FROM HOTPLUG
[04:59] <jmhodges> poningru: its in my disk section .. Seagate 160GB
[04:59] <poningru> gach: calm down someone will eventually get to you
[04:59] <jmhodges> wait
[04:59] <jmhodges> no, im a fool
[04:59] <jmhodges> ther it is in gparted
[04:59] <poningru> oh cool
[04:59] <theneonshadow> theneonshadow:
[05:00] <timfrost> gach, add the module to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:00] <bimberi> gach: add the module name to /etc/hotplug/blacklist
[05:00] <jmhodges> was getting a "Error: Unable to open /dev/hdb - unrecognised disk label."
[05:00] <Friman> How do i log in as root? i cant from the log in screen...on ubuntu..
[05:00] <theneonshadow> hm how do you make the text appear red to the people you want to be talking to
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell Friman about root
[05:00] <poningru> Friman: use sudo instead
[05:00] <Friman> :o
[05:00] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jonshea about mp3
[05:00] <PuMpErNiCkEl> theneonshadow: Stick their name in front?
[05:00] <theneonshadow> oh ok i was doing right before then
[05:00] <theneonshadow> i was just checking
[05:01] <Friman> sudo? hehe < noob
[05:01] <poningru> jmhodges: but its fixed now?
[05:01] <poningru> !root
[05:01] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:01] <Friman> i got it
[05:01] <Friman> yeah
[05:01] <jmhodges> poningru: oh yeah
[05:01] <jmhodges> poningru: now i need to figure out where it is in my dmesg and wahy i didnt find it
[05:01] <Cythril> How would i go about customizing the look and location of like the task bar and such?
[05:01] <Shadyman> Cythril: Click and drag :)
[05:02] <_jason> ubotu, tell Cythril about themes
[05:02] <Shadyman> Cythril: Most things you'll have to right click on and take off "Lock to taskbar"
[05:02] <Shadyman> Cythril: Make that, Panel
[05:02] <bimberi> Cythril: also, right-click -> Properties
[05:02] <Friman> Can i still use sudo without another user? because i never created one at start up, i only have root...
[05:02] <_jason> Friman, did you do expert install?
[05:03] <Friman> no
[05:03] <Cythril> Yeah...like, I saw this pic: http://www.gnome-look.org/content/preview.php?preview=1&id=31128&file1=31128-1.jpg&file2=31128-2.jpg&file3=31128-3.jpg&name=Gentle+Gnome+mockup and the way the bar looked pretty neat, is there a way to make it look more like that?
[05:03] <stpere_notebook> hi, anyone have experience in updating mesa on breezy?
[05:03] <stpere_notebook> I tried to get help in #dri without answer
[05:03] <poningru> jmhodges: you sure you are doing sudo dmesg?
[05:03] <theneonshadow> so are you peeps just random people who hang out in linux help chatrooms or some kind of linux professionals
[05:03] <adriyel> !vnc
[05:03] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, vnc is http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-36715.html http://www.tightvnc.com/docs.html
[05:03] <PuMpErNiCkEl> theneonshadow: Random people. :)
[05:03] <_jason> Friman, with a normal install you don't get root, you create a user that get's sudo priv
[05:03] <theneonshadow> PuMpErNiCkEl: cool. I fit right in then
[05:03] <Friman> well um
[05:04] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Some of both :)
[05:04] <Friman> maybe i did do expert install
[05:04] <poningru> pssh
[05:04] <Orborde> What command do I type to lock the screen?
[05:04] <poningru> I am a linux professional
[05:04] <poningru> muhahahaha
[05:04] <_jason> Friman, after you installed did you just get thrown to a terminal when you booted up?
[05:04] <poningru> Orborde: what so you mean lock the screen? system->lock screen?
[05:04] <joaquinz> hey
[05:04] <joaquinz> i've serious trouble here
[05:04] <Friman> no, im at the log in screen
[05:04] <jmhodges> ok, and  now a silly question and i know is probably very wrong.. if i copy over my entire harddrive as it is now, and switch the new drive over as the new master, will it boot properly?
[05:04] <Friman> after touching nothing
[05:04] <joaquinz> i've updated to dapper drake flight 3
[05:04] <phiber_optic> Good nite everyone
[05:04] <seadog409> theneonshadow: I have been running ubunu for about 6 months now
[05:04] <_jason> Friman, strange...
[05:04] <theneonshadow> poningru: i just started linux training
[05:04] <blacks> Orborde, try xlock
[05:04] <joaquinz> and network card doesnt want to work at start up
[05:04] <Orborde> poningru: Yes. I'm trying to use xbindkeys to configure a key to do it, and to do that, I need the command.
[05:04] <phiber_optic> UBUNTU ROCKS F.. WINDBLOWS
[05:05] <Orborde> blacks: It doesn't seem to exist, though I'll try apt.
[05:05] <_jason> Friman, pastebin the contents of /etc/sudoers
[05:05] <joaquinz> ive to do /etc/init.d/networking restart in order to get it working
[05:05] <theneonshadow> I learn more in these chatrooms than in classrooms :)
[05:05] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Ditto :)
[05:05] <poningru> Orborde: just go to system->pref->keyboard shortcuts
[05:05] <seadog409> theneonshadow: same here
[05:05] <Friman> what jason? 0_0
[05:05] <_jason> ubotu, tell Friman about pastebin
[05:05] <Hollowman> how do i start mysql
[05:05] <theneonshadow> thats kinda funny huh
[05:05] <joaquinz> any idea??
[05:05] <Orborde> poningru: That appears to have issues with key combos.
[05:05] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: I've learned things like.. Uninstalling Python is usually a BAD thing.
[05:05] <poningru> Orborde: what do you mean?
[05:05] <Friman> well, i cant paste anything because i cant log in
[05:05] <poningru> Orborde: what do you want the key combo to be?
[05:05] <seadog409> theneonshadow: and with chatting with ubotu
[05:06] <Orborde> poningru: Oh, wait. It has no problem with Control, etc.
[05:06] <theneonshadow> shadyman: oh yeah... i learn stuff like the hard way
[05:06] <Orborde> poningru: So I suppose I COULD make it work. I'm trying to do Super+L.
[05:06] <jmhodges> ah, hmm
[05:06] <Hollowman> how do i start mysql
[05:07] <theneonshadow> Shadyman: although i wouldnt wanna uninstall python, i took a class on useing it. I almost didn't even need the class but i felt like getting my skillz on paper
[05:07] <ceWek_LUCU__fs> alow
[05:07] <poningru> !tell Hollowman about mysql
[05:07] <Orborde> poningru: Sorry, I hit Control+Q. Ain't I clever?
[05:07] <_jason> Orborde, are you tring to make ashortcut use the win key?
[05:07] <poningru> Orborde: hehe
[05:07] <_jason> trying even
[05:07] <phiber_optic> !tell Hollowman about mysql
[05:07] <deicidus> hi. so i installed dapper and it looks like that'll fix my airport extreme problem once i instal the firmware, *but X won't start*. it says "failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?". when i did the xserver config thing, and then startx, it says "the x server is now disabled. restart gdm when it is confi
[05:07] <deicidus> gured correctly."
[05:07] <Hollowman> :D
[05:07] <Orborde> _jason: Yes.
[05:07] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Yeah, but there are some programs that depend on python. And doing an absolute remove doesn't help matters.
[05:08] <deicidus> also, i previously upgraded from breezy to dapper via apt-get, and that booted fine, but i did a clean install to get rid of package messiness.
[05:08] <poningru> deicidus: airport extreme should have worked out of the box for dapper
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu, tell Orborde about winkey
[05:08] <deicidus> poningru: i thought you had to install specific firmware
[05:08] <BenC> cafuego: the -13.18 kernel has wpa capable bcm43xx+ieee80211+softmac
[05:08] <theneonshadow> shadyman: haha, yeah i don't doubt that
[05:08] <BenC> not uploaded yet though
[05:08] <_jason> ubotu, tell Orborde about winkey
[05:08] <poningru> deicidus: no the broadcom module is in the kernel by default in dapper
[05:09] <phiber_optic> whats the command to see which version im at on?
[05:09] <deicidus> poningru: aw, crap, then why wont mine work? it sees the device but it wont join any networks.
[05:09] <_jason> phiber_optic, version of ubuntu? lsb_release -a
[05:09] <tyler> i wonder if anyone here has error 41 problems with brother multifuntion centers here?
[05:09] <poningru> deicidus: hmm
[05:09] <ceWek_LUCU__fs> alow
[05:10] <poningru> deicidus: look into the wiki troubleshooting
[05:10] <Shadyman> tyler: The better question is does anyone have a brother multifunction center that works, period.
[05:10] <poningru> err wifi troubleshooting in the wiki
[05:10] <deicidus> poningru: ok
[05:10] <tritium> hi Orborde
[05:10] <theneonshadow> is there a program thats similar to telnet on Linux?
[05:10] <Shadyman> tyler: "Works" is a relative term with brother printers.
[05:10] <poningru> !wifi
[05:10] <ubotu> rumour has it, wifi is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[05:10] <phiber_optic> _jason there is another command if im not mistaken
[05:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theneonshadow: ssh?
[05:10] <phiber_optic> theneonshadow ssh
[05:10] <theneonshadow> i see... so how do i run this ssh
[05:10] <poningru> theneonshadow: you can use telnet on linux
[05:10] <tyler> Shadyman, hahahaa
[05:10] <tyler> lolz
[05:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theneonshadow: Not that linux doesn't have telnet, too... it's just insecure, old, and deprecated. :)
[05:11] <_jason> phiber_optic, let me know if you figure it out, I'd like to know if there's another :)
[05:11] <pder> I TRY THE UBUNTU AND IT ARE CRAP
[05:11] <phiber_optic> i remember there was another
[05:11] <Shadyman> pder: Good for you.
[05:11] <robotgeek> pder: that will not help :)
[05:11] <tyler> its really pissing me off..
[05:11] <poningru> !tell theneonshadow about ssh
[05:11] <_jason> pder, yep, that'll get your problem solved
[05:11] <phiber_optic> but its being long i dont use it
[05:11] <nalioth> pder: join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss that, please
[05:11] <theneonshadow> poningru: thats the best responce i've gotten. do i just type telnet in the command
[05:11] <tyler> brother told me to get new print haed n labor charges n transport charges
[05:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> theneonshadow: yeah
[05:11] <tyler> freak
[05:11] <poningru> theneonshadow: yeah dude pretty sure you can just do that
[05:11] <Orborde> tritium: Hello. Who are you?
[05:11] <poningru> theneonshadow: try man telnet
[05:11] <poningru> hold on
[05:12] <theneonshadow> poningru: sweet
[05:12] <theneonshadow> whats the terminal server client do?
[05:12] <tritium> Orborde: I'm one of your friendly channel ops.
[05:12] <poningru> theneonshadow: yeah dude do man telnet for help
[05:12] <nalioth> tritium: you are?
[05:12] <poningru> he is?
[05:12] <theneonshadow> poningru: thanks!
[05:12] <Shadyman> tritium: I was going to suggest to Orbode that you were a stalker ;)
[05:12] <poningru> yep
[05:13] <Shadyman> hehe
[05:13] <GameOver> hey guys does anyonen know how to get a HP multimedia keyboard to work... so i can control the volume and stuff?... maybe get onscreen graphics too when i do so
[05:13] <tritium> Shadyman: :)
[05:13] <Shadyman> GameOver: There was a package i found once. Look in Synaptic for hotkeys
[05:13] <GameOver> shadyman: will do
[05:13] <tritium> Orborde: I noticed you're on purdue resnet, so I figured I'd say "hi"
[05:14] <poningru> GameOver: iirc thats in multiverse so make sure that is turned on
[05:14] <Shadyman> poningru: True that.
[05:14] <Orborde> tritium: So I am. And I can't /DNS you, you stinker.
[05:14] <GameOver> shadyman: hotkeys... or hotkeys setup
[05:15] <GameOver> poningru: iirc?... and whats multiverse?
[05:15] <Orborde> poningru / _jason : That doesn't quite solve the problem; I apparently still need a command to run to actually lock.
[05:15] <tritium> Orborde: sorry ;)  Anyway, I'm an alum
[05:15] <Shadyman> GameOver: Something to do with hotkeys, and not the one that comes with ubuntu
[05:15] <Shadyman> GameOver: Let me look
[05:15] <GameOver> shadyman: ok
[05:15] <Orborde> tritium: Glad to see that Purdue isn't COMPLETELY full of Windows blockheads, eh?
[05:15] <poningru> !tell GameOver abotu multiverse
[05:15] <dfgas> what do i have to install to get g++?
[05:15] <poningru> what?
[05:16] <poningru> !tell GameOver abotu multiverse
[05:16] <nalioth> dfgas: install "build-essential"
[05:16] <poningru> grr
[05:16] <poningru> !multiverse
[05:16] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[05:16] <phiber_optic> anyone know how can I configure the buttons from my keyboard to make it like stop xmms
[05:16] <s_spiff{AWAY}> abotu?
[05:16] <_jason> Orborde, configure it with the regular keyboard shortcut interface, make it ALT+L i guess, then change it in gconf to use <mod4>L
[05:16] <tritium> Orborde: nope :)
[05:16] <GameOver> thanks
[05:16] <Orborde> tritium: You'd prefer we all used Windows?
[05:16] <Shadyman> GameOver: Is Hotkey-setup already installed?
[05:16] <theneonshadow> Windows is for sux0or
[05:16] <tritium> Orborde: no way, man
[05:17] <GameOver> let me check its on my other computer
[05:17] <GameOver> one sec shadyman
[05:17] <poningru> Orborde: hold on
[05:17] <Orborde> tritium: "Glad to see that Purdue isn't COMPLETELY full of Windows blockheads, eh?" "nope :)"
[05:17] <nate__> is there a way to turn on root access in nautilus so you can copy/paste files that you normally can't copy/paste/delete?
[05:17] <Shadyman> GameOver: Ok, because hotkeys-setup comes bundled with Ubuntu, IIRC.
[05:17] <nalioth> nate__: it's not advised to use any gui with superuser priveleges
[05:17] <tritium> Orborde: as in, nope, it is not full of...
[05:17] <GameOver> shadyman: so i should get the ohter?
[05:17] <_adub> how do i change my clock to not do military time
[05:17] <nate__> nalioth, ok, that's what i thought
[05:18] <Shadyman> GameOver: If you already have the first one, then yes.
[05:18] <poningru> Orborde: why cant you just use the super_l button then?
[05:18] <Shadyman> GameOver: Are you on Gnome or KDE?
[05:18] <poningru> Orborde: it works for me
[05:18] <theneonshadow> can a windows computer and a linux computer be on the same network without causing problems
[05:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nate__ about gksudo
[05:18] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nate__ about kdesu
[05:18] <jclinton> nate__: you shouldn't be using nautilus for file copying right now anyways
[05:18] <_adub> im using kde how do i change my clock to not do military time
[05:18] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Yes.
[05:18] <nate__> that leads to my next question, any way to delete entire directories from the terminal?
[05:18] <poningru> theneonshadow: ofcourse
[05:18] <theneonshadow> cool i was just makin sure
[05:18] <Orborde> poningru: Because I assigned other stuff to Super_L + blah, and I don't want to nail it accidentally.
[05:18] <nate__> jclinton, what should i be using?  i'm using the terminal right now, what are the downsides to nautilus?
[05:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> _adub: Right click -> prefs -> uncheck '24h clock'
[05:18] <jclinton> nate__: 'rm -rf dir/'
[05:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell nate__ about cli
[05:19] <jclinton> nate__: nautilus has some serious data loss bugs
[05:19] <nalioth> nate__: read the info ubotu just linked you to, it will open doors for you
[05:19] <nate__> -rf ok thanks
[05:19] <jclinton> nalioth: stop spamming
[05:19] <poningru> Orborde: oh dude just use the pause/break button
[05:19] <nate__> nalioth, Dude, i know what the terminal is, i've been doing hours of work inthe terminal, last time i was in here you linked me to the cli thing too, i don't need that
[05:19] <poningru> oh no he didn
[05:19] <GameOver> shadyman: KDE
[05:19] <GameOver> and yes its only the setup one thats installed
[05:20] <nilsL> a gui based ftp program, except for gFTP? :)
[05:20] <nate__> nalioth, do you really think anybody in here doesn't know what the terminal is?
[05:20] <_jason> Orborde, /apps/gnome_settings_daemon/keybindings/screensaver <- that's what you want to set to lock the screen
[05:20] <Shadyman> GameOver: Ok, yeah. When I was using Kubuntu, I had to get the Hotkeys scripts
[05:20] <nalioth> nate__: then if you know the terminal, why are you asking about file mangling in nautilus?
[05:20] <jclinton> nilsL: any of the file managers
[05:20] <hippie23> how do I turn up the refresh rate on my monitor?
[05:20] <nilsL> jclinton: oh really
[05:20] <nilsL> jclinton: thx
[05:20] <GameOver> shadyman: so i get both?
[05:20] <poningru> nilsL: there are many I would say fireftp in firefox extension
[05:20] <GameOver> i mean the othe rone
[05:20] <jclinton> nalioth: leave him alone
[05:20] <Shadyman> GameOver: Do you have hotkey-setup already?
[05:20] <GameOver> shadyman: yes
[05:20] <nate__> nalioth, because i wanna get a directory of php files and images and stuff that i've made into my apache root folder, but it's a pain copying 15 images one by one
[05:20] <Shadyman> GameOver: Yeah, go for the other one
[05:20] <hippie23> its runing at 1024x768 @ 60hz, it can do 85hz
[05:20] <Shadyman> GameOver: Both
[05:21] <nalioth> nate__: so use the terminal to cp them recursively
[05:21] <nilsL> poningru: thx
[05:21] <poningru> nilsL: yep
[05:21] <hippie23> it only gives me the 60hz option
[05:21] <nate__> nalioth, now we are getting somewhere, what's recursively?
[05:21] <GameOver> Shadyman: and should work once installed?
[05:21] <poningru> !bash
[05:21] <ubotu> For a list of basic commands, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[05:21] <Shadyman> GameOver: May take some minimal configuring.
[05:21] <poningru> nate__: look through that
[05:21] <jclinton> hippie23: go to a terminal and run as root: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver
[05:21] <GameOver> shadyman can u help me with it if needed?
[05:21] <poningru> it should help, also look into regular expressions
[05:21] <nilsL> jclinton: could i do it in rox?
[05:21] <nalioth> nate__: you are sending very mixed signals here. ubotu has linked you to a lot of info on using the terminal
[05:21] <Shadyman> GameOver: It should have man pages though. I can try, but it's been a while.
[05:22] <_adub> pumpernickle i think mine is different
[05:22] <jclinton> nilsL: no idea what rox is; use konqueror or nautilus
[05:22] <nalioth> jclinton: rox is a lightweight gui file manager
[05:22] <nate__> i know what the terminal is, i know how to use it, i just started using it yesterday so i do not know all the commands by heart and what the modifiers do, i just need help on what modifies do what
[05:22] <GameOver> ok let me try, ill brb shadyman
[05:22] <phiber_optic> anyone know how can I configure the buttons from my keyboard to make it like stop xmms?
[05:22] <jonshea> nalioth: Thanks for that mp3 help. That was _exactly_ what I was looking for.
[05:22] <jclinton> nalioth: too lightweight to be well known then
[05:23] <deicidus> poningru: ok, im finding nothing on the wiki. i think there might not be a driver, but i dont know how to check.
[05:23] <hippie23> thats a lil bit of a pain to configure my monitor, I just want to set my refresh rate, not my whole x-server setup
[05:23] <_jason> nate__, do you know about man pages?  that's probably the fastest way to get that info
[05:23] <nalioth> nate__: we are not here to spoon feed you. you have been given links to info that will help you.
[05:23] <poningru> deicidus: oh sorry dude here let me link you to it
[05:23] <nate__> i am on wiki.ubuntu.com/basiccommands, it doesn't have anything aobut -r, i'd use the man files but they are usally confusing and it's easier to get an answer from IRC
[05:23] <theneonshadow> my brain hurts
[05:23] <theneonshadow> stupid lcd lights
[05:23] <jclinton> phiber_optic: go to System and configured keyboard shortcut
[05:23] <_adub> im using kde how do i change my clock to not do military time
[05:23] <jclinton> hippie23: that's how it's done
[05:23] <_jason> nate__, try 'man cp' for example
[05:23] <jclinton> hippie23: there are only 5 questions
[05:23] <nalioth> jclinton: it was for an older time when the machines weren't as powerful or advanced. it still works in a simple way
[05:23] <poningru> deicidus: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiTroubleshooting
[05:23] <nate__> i know the man pages, i just needed a quick, specific, answer, not a definition of CLI, good lord
[05:23] <Shadyman> _adub: They might know in /join #kubuntu
[05:23] <nate__> forget it, i'm just going to man pages
[05:24] <nate__> i thought it'd be easy to get somebody to just tell me the command to copy whole directories
[05:24] <deicidus> poningru: ok thanks
[05:24] <poningru> nate__: stop let me link you to a bigger tutorial
[05:24] <seadog409> _adub: right click clock > date and time
[05:24] <jclinton> nate__: cp -R source/ destination/
[05:24] <hippie23> last time I did it, there was about 15
[05:24] <_jason> nate__, you can search a man page by hitting '/', you search term, enter... n and N to navigate back and forth
[05:24] <nate__> thanks guya
[05:24] <nate__> guys*
[05:24] <nate__> :)
[05:24] <jclinton> hippie23: well then why are you asking? you say the option there? are you just wasting our time?
[05:24] <Orborde> _jason: Doesn't seem to want to work.
[05:24] <seadog409> _adub: date and time format I mean
[05:24] <nate__> that really helped, thanks especially to jclinton and jason :)
[05:24] <_adub> seadog409 gosh that was easy i feel dumb
[05:25] <nbound> how do i turn on dma for my cd-rom, and then make it that way as default
[05:25] <_jason> Orborde, grr let me try, did you manage to change the setting ok?
[05:25] <poningru> nate__: http://linuxcommand.org/
[05:25] <GameOver> shadyman: yeah it doesnt work by just installing it
[05:25] <_adub> thanks bro
[05:25] <poningru> that explains pretty well
[05:25] <Orborde> _jason: Yeah
[05:25] <nate__> oh, one more thing, is there a way to exit a man page and go back to the terminal you were at?  I usually just close the terminal window
[05:25] <poningru> nate__: thats how I learned almost all bash
[05:25] <jclinton> nate__: 'q'
[05:25] <hippie23> no, Im looking for a easyer way to do it
[05:25] <poningru> I kno
[05:25] <nalioth> nate__: jclinton and jason will not be around all the time at your beck and call.
[05:25] <nate__> jclinton, thanks, i knew it'd be obvious
[05:25] <Orborde> _jason: I set it to <mod4>l
[05:25] <seadog409> _adub: in Tme format change it to PH:MM:SS AMPM
[05:25] <jclinton> nalioth: come again?
[05:25] <nate__> nalioth, as long as you aren't around i'll do just fine
[05:25] <nate__> :)
[05:25] <nbound> how do i turn on dma for my cd-rom, and then make it that way as default????
[05:25] <jclinton> hippie23: THERE ISN'T ONE, stop whining
[05:25] <hippie23> can I just edit my xorg.config file?
[05:25] <poningru> nate__: thats not fair
[05:26] <_adub> yeah i got it seadog409 thanks bro
[05:26] <nate__> thank you to jclinton and _jason for being helpful, thanks to nalioth for giving me the history of linux :)
[05:26] <nate__> good day
[05:26] <seadog409> _adub: no prob
[05:26] <poningru> jeez
[05:26] <nalioth> jclinton: i am here to teach folks how to use their *nix systems. not spoon feed them every little command. nate was given several differnt links to help himself
[05:26] <hippie23> F-you jclinton... I wast rude to you, theres no rason for you to be rude to me
[05:26] <jclinton> nalioth: go away then, you don't have the right attitude
[05:26] <theneonshadow> holy cow i just noticed that if you log in to aim using gaim it doesnt send the message telling you theres multiple log ins
[05:26] <tritium> hippie23: chill out please
[05:26] <poningru> jclinton: its the feed a man for a day and feed him for life metaphor applies
[05:27] <poningru> !tell hippie23 about coc
[05:27] <jclinton> hippie23: you are being patronizing; i answered your question
[05:27] <nbound> nalioth, and thats the way it should be, so users dont have to rely on this channel
[05:27] <GameOver> also... does anyone know how to get rid of the black frames around the pciture when u zoom or go fullscreen in mplayer?
[05:27] <GameOver> the movie doesnt get bigger the black frames do
[05:27] <sklav> GameOver, its because its widescreen formated the black frames are there
[05:27] <nbound> GameOver, thats weird, which player?
[05:27] <GameOver> Mplayer
[05:27] <sklav> i have had luck with using the anamorphic option
[05:27] <GameOver> and no its no a movie
[05:27] <GameOver> its a tv show
[05:28] <GameOver> it doesnt zoom in
[05:28] <poningru> GameOver: thats part of the tv show
[05:28] <GameOver> only the black bars get bigger
[05:28] <GameOver> no
[05:28] <phiber_optic> on my keyboard shortcut what does it mean 0xa0
[05:28] <GameOver> its with everymovie i have
[05:28] <nbound> GameOver, does it do it in totem?
[05:28] <GameOver> i dont like totem
[05:28] <GameOver> it doesnt do it in vlc
[05:28] <GameOver> player
[05:28] <Shadyman> phiber_optic: That's a special key. Some kind of hotkey
[05:28] <_jason> Orborde, strange, it works for other commands fine.  Try restarting X
[05:28] <jclinton> phiber_optic: its just a default; change it
[05:28] <deicidus> poningru: thanks but i'll come back to that. my main problem now is no gui! it does look like its a driver problem though.
[05:28] <Orborde> _jason: What do you mean?
[05:28] <tritium> jclinton: please be polite
[05:28] <phiber_optic> when I click like the special keys, it doesnt do any effect to xmms.
[05:28] <nbound> GameOver, whats wrong with totem?
[05:28] <Orborde> _jason: I mean, what does it work with?
[05:28] <jclinton> tritium: pardon?
[05:29] <GameOver> Shadyman: can u help me configure the hotkeys
[05:29] <phiber_optic> Pasue key + XF86AudioPause
[05:29] <Slaj_R> If I want to petition the developes to update a package, whom do I contact?
[05:29] <Shadyman> GameOver: I can try.
[05:29] <phiber_optic> what is xf86?
[05:29] <GameOver> nbound: i dunno just didnt like it
[05:29] <_jason> Orborde, with the metacity -> keybindings (the screensaver lock didn't work for me either)
[05:29] <GameOver> same with kaffeine
[05:29] <jeff303> does anyone know if there is a firefox extension ro resubmit a POST periodically?
[05:29] <GameOver> didnt like it
[05:29] <poningru> deicidus: hmm disable the firmware that you added
[05:29] <jclinton> phiber_optic: it's a name for a key code that's all
[05:29] <nbound> GameOver, um ok
[05:29] <_jason> Orborde, but it may be worth a try to set the change and restart X
[05:29] <deicidus> poningru: i didnt add any
[05:29] <GameOver> does totem handle streaming video well?
[05:29] <Shadyman> GameOver: Try going in to terminal, do "man hotkeys". That should give you some info about it
[05:29] <Orborde> _jason: So you can assign super commands to the metacity binds?
[05:29] <jclinton> phiber_optic: just set the key you want that's all, press backspace if you need to clear it
[05:30] <poningru> jeff303: do you know how to program in js?
[05:30] <GameOver> will do shadyman
[05:30] <phiber_optic> is there a way to link it to xmms to make it play or stop?
[05:30] <tritium> jclinton: my words were clear.
[05:30] <poningru> jeff303: you can do it using greasemonkey
[05:30] <GameOver> brb
[05:30] <jeff303> poningru: thanks
[05:30] <jclinton> tritium: you need to reparse the conversation because you don't have all the context
[05:30] <Bobby> Hello there :)
[05:30] <Shadyman> GameOver: Also, there should be a directory, either /etc/default/hotkeys, /etc/hotkeys, /usr/share/hotkeys, something like that
[05:30] <_jason> Orborde, no, I don't.  I've only figured out how to do that recently and I am used to windows key opening a terminal now.  But I did just try and verified that things like 'run dialog' opens with windows+F2
[05:31] <Bobby> Hello everyone! :) I have a question about dual monitors. Can someone help?
[05:31] <Shadyman> GameOver: This will have all the configuration files, as well as keyboard definitions
[05:31] <jclinton> phiber_optic: XMMS doesn't know about those shortcuts
[05:31] <phiber_optic> jrclinton is there a way to link it to xmms to make it play or stop?
[05:31] <Shadyman> Bobby: Ask :)
[05:31] <BigDaddy> Evening all
[05:31] <phiber_optic> is there a way i could make them work?
[05:31] <Shadyman> phiber_optic: Yes. xmms --help
[05:31] <Orborde> _jason: Okay, X is going down.
[05:31] <poningru> nalioth: not fair dude
[05:31] <tritium> jclinton: I saw enough.
[05:31] <Bobby> Shadyman: I am using a 7800GTX. I installed the latest nvidia drivers fine, but i want to get dual monitors working.
[05:31] <poningru> nalioth: seriously he just doesnt know about us thats all
[05:32] <poningru> nalioth: he just doesnt know good support practice
[05:32] <Shadyman> Bobby: I meant, ask the room, and see what happens. I don't know, personally. Sorry :)
[05:32] <BigDaddy> I have a quick quesion (hopefully) about partitions and Ubuntu. Anyone here familiar with this subject?
[05:32] <Bobby> ok, thanks anyway :)
[05:32] <theneonshadow> is ubuntu the only free shipping linux or is there more
[05:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigDaddy: yeah, most of us
[05:32] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Loads more.
[05:32] <BigDaddy> Sweet
[05:32] <phiber_optic> I mean to link my shortcuts?
[05:32] <nbound> can SATA drives have dma enabled using hdparm???
[05:32] <Jimmi_jones> got a seriously newb question if anyone has the patience.
[05:32] <Orborde> _jason: No cigar.
[05:32] <nalioth> Jimmi_jones: just ask
[05:32] <deicidus> can anyone help me get X running on my new dapper install?
[05:32] <nbound> Jimmi_jones, just ask it =)
[05:32] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: But this is the best out of the box, imho
[05:32] <BigDaddy> I hope this is not mentioned somewhere I haven't looked, but I could not find anything on linuxquestions.org
[05:33] <nbound> deicidus, startx ;)
[05:33] <_jason> Orborde, ah don't know then.  You may be able to hack around it by figuring out the command to lock the screen and just bind it to that
[05:33] <Jimmi_jones> I want to know how to change file associations, so that xmms is the default for internet radio and things like that
[05:33] <theneonshadow> shadyman: sweet. I could have gone and figure out alot of the things i've asked in here myself, but this is easier
[05:33] <theneonshadow> lol
[05:33] <Orborde> _jason: Well, do you happen to know the lock command...?
[05:33] <deicidus> nbound: it says "failed to start the X server (your graphical interface). it is likely that it is not set up correctly. would you like to view the X server output to diagnose the problem?". when i did the xserver config thing, and then startx, it says "the x server is now disabled. restart gdm when it is configured correctly."
[05:33] <nitrocks> what is the application that will take output from a command line and put it right on your desktop background in gnome?
[05:33] <phiber_optic> jrclinton I mean to link my shortcuts?
[05:33] <_jason> Orborde, I don't
[05:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Jimmi_jones: Right-click -> properties -> open with
[05:33] <mkyb14> how do you enable the assistive technology preference magnifier... i can't figure it out or how to activate it.  i have all the required packages installed
[05:33] <BigDaddy> What I am wondering about is this: Lets say I make my hard drive with my windows installation two partions. One for Windows, one for Ubuntu
[05:33] <nbound> deicidus, have u installed any video drivers?
[05:34] <Orborde> _jason: w00t
[05:34] <_jason> Orborde, got it?
[05:34] <deicidus> nbound: nope, its a fresh install. breezy worked fine.
[05:34] <BigDaddy> If for some reason I decide to remove my Ubuntu partition, can I resize the Windows partition back to the entire HD volume?
[05:34] <nbound> Jimmi_jones, find a file with the same extension (the .xxx bit) and goto properties one of the tabs on their does it ;)
[05:34] <theneonshadow> i installed windows media player using wine but i don't know where it went... :(
[05:35] <nbound> deicidus, have u viewed the output to see what the error is?
[05:35] <Jimmi_jones> thx will try
[05:35] <Orborde> _jason: Nope
[05:35] <deicidus> nbound, yeah its got a bunch of errors from mouse to video. want me to bring them up?
[05:35] <phiber_optic> jrclinton I mean to link my shortcuts?
[05:35] <BigDaddy> Does that question make sense?
[05:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigDaddy: Probably, although I've never tried it.  If not, you can certainly reformat it from Windows and use it again.
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> (although as a separate driver)
[05:36] <nbound> deicidus, yeah pastebin them =)
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *drive
[05:36] <BigDaddy> PuMpErNiCkLe - reformat the entire hard drive and reinstall Windows?
[05:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigDaddy: No, only the linux partition.
[05:36] <BigDaddy> That is pretty much whatI was wanting to avoid
[05:36] <poningru> BigDaddy: what are you trying to do?
[05:36] <theneonshadow> bigdaddy: Windows is for sux0rs
[05:36] <nalioth> theneonshadow: please be polite
[05:36] <seadog409> theneonshadow: i think it went to /home/yourusername/.wine/ somewhere there should be the media player in c/program files/
[05:36] <BigDaddy> I do not want to get into a debate on the merits of OS'es
[05:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigDaddy: And that's the pessimistic option... I'm pretty sure you can do what you want, I've just never done it.
[05:37] <theneonshadow> seadog409: thanks. It is!
[05:37] <BigDaddy> I have had several distro's installed before, because I really do wish to leave M$
[05:37] <poningru> BigDaddy: no one does what do you want to do?
[05:37] <phiber_optic> M$ucks
[05:37] <BigDaddy> But hinestly none of them "worked" so I went back to XP.
[05:38] <poningru> phiber_optic: seriously dude keep that kinda stuff out of here it kinda gets boring when people start arguing about that
[05:38] <Jimmi_jones> ok I am really sorry for this, but I go to a internet radio station locating site (with firefox) click on a link to a station and it automatically tries to open totem. Am I just having a dense moment? This is a clean install minus the xmms and thunderbird that was added.
[05:38] <BigDaddy> I have been hearing so many good things about Ubuntu (especially apt-get) from debian
[05:38] <Shadyman> BigDaddy: Ubuntu's the one that "worked" best for me, so far.
[05:38] <deicidus> nbound, i forgot what pastebin is, could you do that bot thing?
[05:38] <phiber_optic> why didnt ubuntu "worked" for you? bigdaddy?
[05:38] <BigDaddy> that is what I hear from so many
[05:38] <Shadyman> BigDaddy: Even a lot of the laptop features.
[05:38] <_jason> Orborde, got it: xscreensaver-command -lock
[05:38] <Shadyman> Ubotu: tell deicidus about pastebin
[05:38] <poningru> Jimmi_jones: whats wrong with that?
[05:38] <nalioth> Jimmi_jones: use vlc for listening to internet radio
[05:39] <BigDaddy> phiber_optic - I haven't installed it yet, I was refering to my old Red Hat, Mandrake, Mandriva installs
[05:39] <Orborde> _jason: Oops. I thought xscreensaver-command didn't exist on my system, but Lo, it does. X)
[05:39] <jvai> Bdaddy, i reinstalled like 8 tymes, learning all the while, w/ ubuntu
[05:39] <nbound> deicidus, yep just a tic
[05:39] <Shadyman> BigDaddy: ubuntu worked better for me than redhat :)
[05:39] <Jimmi_jones> totem says that it can't do it. vlc? I will try it, but how do I keep firefox from wanting to default to totem.
[05:39] <nbound> !pastebin
[05:39] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> BigDaddy: Just from a quick glance at http://mlf.linux.rulez.org/mlf/ezaz/ntfsresize.html it looks like you can resize the XP partition to cover the linux one if you need to.
[05:39] <jvai> & ima noob
[05:39] <phiber_optic> BigDaddy, i've been in Redhat, Fedora, Mandrake and I've never seen something like ubuntu
[05:39] <phiber_optic> It just works...
[05:39] <BigDaddy> I just don't want to go through the hassle of reinstalling XP all over again...looking at it now phiber_optic
[05:39] <Shadyman> phiber_optic: Ditto
[05:39] <nbound> there u go deicidus
[05:40] <theneonshadow> is ubuntu really that much better?
[05:40] <phiber_optic> yeahh...
[05:40] <poningru> BigDaddy: what exactly do you want to do?
[05:40] <poningru> partition your hd?
[05:40] <BigDaddy> that is all I hear
[05:40] <phiber_optic> theoneshadow.. it all depends on tastes.. And ubuntu definetiley works for me
[05:40] <GameOver> shadyman: well i got the mute button to work
[05:40] <GameOver> lol
[05:40] <theneonshadow> yeah me too
[05:40] <GameOver> it only supports one hp keyboard
[05:40] <Orborde> _jason: Well, that works. Thanks.
[05:40] <theneonshadow> i just havnt used much linux other than this
[05:40] <phiber_optic> ive benn in 4 distros and ubuntu is my 5th im staying with it
[05:40] <_jason> Orborde, yw
[05:40] <GameOver> i guess its not mine
[05:40] <Bobby> Does anyone know how to enable dual monitors?
[05:41] <jvai> the only thing that i cant do w/ hoary vs xp, is play dvd disc, & view wmp files, but that's not major
[05:41] <theneonshadow> i think im sticking with ubuntu too
[05:41] <phiber_optic> game over I have an hp keyboard and mute
[05:41] <theneonshadow> i might play around wtih other oses though
[05:41] <phiber_optic> works
[05:41] <phiber_optic> also volume
[05:41] <poningru> Bobby: hold on
[05:41] <Bobby> k
[05:41] <BigDaddy> poningru - I just want to know that if I do not like Ubuntu that I will be able to reclaim that partition under windows XP
[05:41] <poningru> BigDaddy: yes
[05:41] <phiber_optic> Bigdaddy always
[05:41] <theneonshadow> how does dual booting work
[05:41] <jvai> i dl'd "hydra" 3 weeks ago
[05:42] <jvai> nmap bfore that
[05:42] <poningru> Bobby: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[05:42] <Jimmi_jones> oh, well, will try again tomorrow. Thanks anyway, night.
[05:42] <jvai> & learning tcpdump
[05:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bobby: http://www.granneman.com/techinfo/linux/installation/dualheadhowto.htm <--- this may help.
[05:42] <Bobby> lol... 2 different methods
[05:42] <Bobby> any way to know which is better?
[05:43] <poningru> what level of expertize?
[05:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Bobby: They're different... it's just personal preference.
[05:43] <Bobby> hmm.... whcih is easier?
[05:43] <BigDaddy> Say XP is on Partition A (100 GB, and I make a partition B for Ubuntu 100GB.  Try it out and for whatever reason, I don't like it. Can I make partition A 200 GB agian without reformating and reinstalling
[05:43] <BigDaddy> that is what I was trying to say earlier
[05:43] <phiber_optic> gameover where you able to make work forward and pause buttons on hp keyboard?
[05:43] <nbound> deicidus, u done it yet?
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> BigDaddy,  theres tools that can resize existing xp partitiobns
[05:43] <GameOver> yes but its preset for xmms
[05:43] <poningru> Bobby: if you are just starting out with linux and dont know enough about it try xinerama
[05:43] <GameOver> for some reason
[05:44] <phiber_optic> Yeah you would be able... I think you could use some tools to resize
[05:44] <BigDaddy> Dr_Willis - any recommendations?
[05:44] <Bobby> ok
[05:44] <phiber_optic> your existing partitions
[05:44] <Shadyman> GameOver: There's a config file where you set all the commands for it
[05:44] <poningru> BigDaddy: you can use the rescue cd and gparted to do that
[05:44] <Dr_Willis> BigDaddy,  other then delete xp :P and use linux.
[05:44] <BigDaddy> I am looking at this link provided a few minutes ago. Sounds about right
[05:44] <GameOver> phiber_optic but i cant get the volume to work :(
[05:44] <Shadyman> GameOver: It might be /etc/Hotkeys?
[05:44] <phiber_optic> wow gameover...
[05:44] <poningru> BigDaddy: http://www.sysresccd.org/
[05:44] <phiber_optic> my volume works...
[05:44] <poningru> GameOver: here do this
[05:44] <phiber_optic> But stop an other buttons doesnt work
[05:45] <poningru> GameOver: go to system->pref->keyboard shortcuts
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> BigDaddy, the url poningru  gave you - has a "must have" live cd - that should be part of every toolkit.
[05:45] <Shadyman> poningru: GameOver's on Kubuntu
[05:45] <poningru> oh my bad
[05:45] <GameOver> that i am
[05:45] <phiber_optic> oohh
[05:45] <BigDaddy> poningru - that sounds like exactly what I was wanting
[05:45] <Shadyman> poningru: Not bad, just, different for kubuntu :)
[05:46] <phiber_optic> I couldnt help you
[05:46] <Bobby> Hmmm....... whenever i try one of those files (like /etc/X11/XF86Config-4) it says it doesnt exist
[05:46] <BigDaddy> Dr_Willis - I can see why. Very impressive
[05:46] <GameOver> pningru... guess i cant do it in kubuntu then>?
[05:46] <poningru> Bobby: hmm hold on
[05:46] <deicidus> nbound, sent but i sent it by you not to you... that button wasnt intuitive.
[05:46] <phiber_optic> poningru is there a way I could configure my buttons to make it work for xmms?
[05:46] <Shadyman> GameOver: Nope, that's why we're doing it with the hotkeys package ;)
[05:46] <poningru> GameOver: yes you can just find the keyboard shortcut
[05:46] <deicidus> nbound, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7239
[05:46] <poningru> well not sure
[05:46] <poningru> Bobby: what site did I send you to?
[05:46] <Shadyman> poningru: IIRC, it doesnt' recognize the hotkeys correctly.
[05:46] <Shadyman> poningru: But that could just be me
[05:47] <phiber_optic> poningru is there a way I could configure my buttons to make it work for xmms???
[05:47] <Bobby> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors
[05:47] <poningru> phiber_optic: hmm it should recognize the default gnome settings
[05:47] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[05:47] <poningru> phiber_optic: go into keyboard shortcuts and change the play pause thing in there
[05:47] <phiber_optic> ok
[05:47] <phiber_optic> hold on
[05:47] <poningru> Bobby: hmm hold on let me see
[05:47] <BigDaddy> Dr_Willis, poningru, PuMpErNiCkLe - thank you for the info. Really good stuff here. I havea already order my CD's and will most likely give t a whirl. I must say that I don't remember using GRUB before, I think I have only used Lilo
[05:47] <nbound> nbound, sent but i sent it by you not to you... that button wasnt intuitive. <--- errrr, deicidus
[05:47] <rixth> How can i stop the install process from checking the MD5's of packages?
[05:48] <Shadyman> rixith: IIRC, there should be an option to "check or skip"
[05:48] <poningru> Bobby: for you its the first one
[05:48] <deicidus> nbound: what?
[05:48] <nbound> deicidus, i dont get what u typed
[05:48] <poningru> Bobby: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[05:48] <GameOver> what do u guys suggest as the best video player for both files and web broswer for streaming and stuff?
[05:48] <nbound> deicidus, as for the error try reconfiguring x
[05:48] <Bobby> pon: but it still says it doesnt exist when i enter it in Terminal
[05:48] <deicidus> nbound, well if you can see my pastebin nvm
[05:48] <BigDaddy> OH, one last thing. File Managers under Ubuntu. Does anyone know of a file manager similar to xplorer2 for linux?
[05:48] <nbound> ubotu tell deicidus about xorg
[05:49] <poningru> Bobby: hmm that cant be right
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> never heard of xplorer2 :P
[05:49] <poningru> Bobby: what did you enter in the terminal?
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> but theres dozens of different ifle managers out
[05:49] <BigDaddy> http://zabkat.com/x2support.htm
[05:49] <jclinton> BigDaddy: the best two file managers are konqueror and nautilus
[05:49] <rixth> Shadyman, I didn't see it?
[05:49] <Bobby> dan@ubuntu:~$ /etc/X11/Xorg.conf
[05:49] <Bobby> bash: /etc/X11/Xorg.conf: No such file or directory
[05:49] <BigDaddy> it is a dual pane file manager with a tree view as well
[05:49] <Shadyman> rixth: Maybe it's my bad.
[05:49] <poningru> Bobby: hold on
[05:49] <poningru> doh
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> I perfer good old 2 Pane File Managers. :P
[05:49] <Bobby> ?
[05:49] <deicidus> nbound, i did that, then did startx again, and it gave an error about gdm
[05:50] <phiber_optic> poningru after I changer it doesnt work on xmms :(
[05:50] <poningru> Bobby: its /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:50] <deicidus> nbound unless im misunderstanding one of the setting screens in the config utility
[05:50] <nalioth> BigDaddy: apt-cache search manager
[05:50] <BigDaddy> bad link - http://
[05:50] <linux_user400354> Is there an open ssh server that will run on windows?
[05:50] <nbound> deicidus, why are you using dapper anyway?
[05:50] <poningru> Bobby: the problem was the capital X on Xorg.conf
[05:50] <Bobby> ah
[05:50] <nalioth> linux_user400354: google 'cygwin'
[05:50] <jclinton> linux_user400354: cygwin
[05:50] <deicidus> nbound because my airport extreme card wont work in breezy
[05:50] <BigDaddy> lol, that was a bad link, http://zabkat.com
[05:50] <BigDaddy> that is one app that I cannot live without in Windows
[05:51] <nbound> deicidus, what makes you think it will work in dapper?
[05:51] <Bobby> pon: so i do this?   gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:51] <phiber_optic> poningru after I changer it doesnt work on xmms :(
[05:51] <poningru> Bobby: first back it up
[05:51] <deicidus> nbound, some other people in here said it probably would, and i read tons on the forums, and it actually recognizes the device but i think i just need to tinker a little to get it to completely connect
[05:51] <poningru> Bobby: cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.backup
[05:51] <Bobby> is xorg.conf.backup ok?
[05:51] <deicidus> nbound, its just hard to do that with no gui
[05:51] <Bobby> ah
[05:51] <poningru> phiber_optic: hold on
[05:52] <poningru> Bobby: yeah thats fine
[05:52] <phiber_optic> sure
[05:52] <Syco54645> poningru: .bak is sufficient
[05:52] <BigDaddy> anyine here ever heard of Kruiser File Manager?
[05:52] <Bobby> pon, it says permission denied
[05:52] <nbound> deicidus, heh, dapper is still unstable, thats why u'll get weird errors like that, and u are guaranteed more, either wait, or find a work around
[05:52] <poningru> Bobby: sorry add a sudo in front of it
[05:52] <nbound> !dapper
[05:52] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[05:52] <k3Rn> hallo!
[05:53] <k3Rn> ich habe hier ein problem
[05:53] <nbound> !de
[05:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[05:53] <Bobby> pon: ok, now   gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf  ??
[05:53] <poningru> Bobby: yeah except add a sudo in front of that
[05:54] <KrulleTrap> .de sleeps :-)
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Snell! Strudle!
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> :P
[05:54] <_jason> Bobby, precede it with sudo, like: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> Leider Hosen!
[05:54] <deicidus> that sort of warning would have been much more helpful before i started
[05:54] <BigDaddy> Ich spreche keine Duetch
[05:54] <deicidus> well ill install breezy again and upgrade again, that seemed to work last time
[05:54] <Bobby> ok, the file is up... but i'm still not sure how to edit it
[05:54] <nbound> u speak some german =P
[05:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:54] <BigDaddy> 14 years ago in High School
[05:54] <poningru> Bobby: you mean what to edit?
[05:54] <theneonshadow> im bored! QUICK gimme somthing fun todo
[05:54] <BigDaddy> enuff to know I forgot it all almost
[05:54] <Bobby> pon, dont i have to edit it?
[05:55] <Dr_Willis> theneonshadow,  go to www.imboard.com
[05:55] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Juggle mouse balls
[05:55] <theneonshadow> shadyman: hm... i have enough mouses for that too
[05:55] <nbound> BigDaddy, i speak a little too, but only what ive learnt myself
[05:55] <k3Rn> i while installing a linux system on my computer i loaded GRUB bootmanger onto my windows hard disc. i now wanna remove grub from it - restore my boot record so that windows boots when i boot from that drive
[05:55] <theneonshadow> shadyman: if that didnt sounds oh so wrong
[05:55] <k3Rn> can anyone here help me with that?
[05:55] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: I know, I know.
[05:55] <nbound> k3Rn, you want it to boot back into windows instead of ubuntu?
[05:56] <phiber_optic> which is better rythmbox or xmms?
[05:56] <BigDaddy> Well, it is almost 12 here. Thanks again for the help people. I will probably be back in a few days when my CD's arrive for maassive amounts of help!
[05:56] <Shadyman> k3Rn: You should be able to use your Windows cd's recovery console to rewrite the MBR
[05:56] <nbound> phiber_optic, xmms
[05:56] <Shadyman> BigDaddy: See you then!
[05:56] <BigDaddy> later
[05:56] <theneonshadow> WHY DO NONE OF THE LINKS IN THESE CHATROOMS OPEN THE BROWSER
[05:56] <phiber_optic> whats the difference?
[05:56] <nbound> Shadyman, thats what i was gonna say =(
[05:56] <theneonshadow> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh
[05:56] <NCLife> hi, i want to install gdesklets and id like to know if there is a how-to for it somewhere
[05:56] <tritium> theneonshadow: stop that, please
[05:56] <stat> theneonshadow, right-click?
[05:56] <k3Rn> Shadowline yea i thought about that - i don't have my win cd here - so i am thinking about what i could do else?
[05:56] <nbound> theneonshadow, right click ;)
[05:56] <jclinton> phiber_optic: XMMS hasn't been updated in several years and lacks a number of features
[05:56] <k3Rn> is there no other way?
[05:56] <theneonshadow> i tried
[05:56] <NCLife> id searched on the wiki and on the forum but didnt find anything
[05:56] <theneonshadow> tritium: its not like i was flooding the screen, it was 2 lines chill out
[05:57] <phiber_optic> yeah i hate that u cannot search
[05:57] <phiber_optic> and u dont have a library
[05:57] <nbound> theneonshadow, right click -> firefox -> open in new tab/window
[05:57] <deicidus> phiber_optic, well im not sure but affaik rhythmbox has a simple gtk interface, a library, and is like itunes. xmms is more graphical and is like winamp.
[05:57] <magez> someone could help me??? =)
[05:57] <Bobby> pon, are you still there?
[05:57] <theneonshadow> nbound: yes yes i know but i dont WANT to do it that way... i always do though
[05:57] <linux_user400354> will the ssh server in cygwin let me view and modify files on windows ntfs partitions?
[05:57] <tritium> theneonshadow: you were using all caps, and repeating a single character
[05:57] <phiber_optic> i used to like itunes
[05:57] <phiber_optic> in windblows...
[05:57] <Shadyman> deicidus: Yes. Rhythmbox is almost exactly like itunes, except without the blatant promotion of itunes music store
[05:58] <theneonshadow> tritium: so?
[05:58] <tritium> theneonshadow: so I asked you to stop.
[05:58] <Shadyman> deicidus: XMMS is a clone of Winamp
[05:58] <linux_user400354> phiber_optic you can use itunes in ubuntu. the howto is under restricted formats in the user documentation.
[05:58] <nbound> without the kewl 3d thing with the camel =(
[05:58] <robotgeek> phiber_optic, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:58] <phiber_optic> what u mean linuxuser?
[05:58] <deicidus> phiber_optics: yeah i liked it too, except that its really slow with videos.
[05:58] <theneonshadow> tritium: and i did, i just don't see why it bothers you so much, and it wasnt ALL caps, just all but the last 2 chariters :p
[05:59] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: That's a downhill battle. I'd just give it up, IMHO
[05:59] <nbound> theneonshadow, what u did wasnt that bad, but dont do it again ;)
[05:59] <theneonshadow> nbound: i'm not gonna
[05:59] <theneonshadow> Shadyman: yeah im just testing
[05:59] <linux_user400354> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-3b21b161513c49f26dac2aaca9afd8f64e21aaaa
[05:59] <linux_user400354> phiber, go there
[05:59] <AF_Vet> I've got a noto so quick question.. I just installed Ubuntu on a relatively virgin box.. Via chipset onboard video.. now I can't get out of 640x480 res and the refresh rate is all screwed and the Xwin desktop is all screwey.. anyone have suggestions or clues of what I might do or where I might go?
[05:59] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: I wouldn't test too hard.
[05:59] <theneonshadow> shadyman: im done
[05:59] <tritium> remind me not to ask nicely
[06:00] <phiber_optic> so u guys suggest i should stay with rythmbox?
[06:00] <deicidus> why would you install itunes when you have rhythmbox? rhythmbox seems so much cleaner and faster
[06:00] <brenner> ubotu: tell AF_Vet about fixres
[06:00] <Shadyman> phiber_optic: It depends what you want.
[06:00] <theneonshadow> tritium: sorry by the way, just had too much sugar today and too little adhd meds
[06:00] <phiber_optic> I would stay with rythmbox
[06:00] <Shadyman> deicidus: Rhythmbox is better than itunes. Itunes freezes every time it tries to access an ipod.
[06:00] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell theneonshadow about coc
[06:00] <AF_Vet> thanks brenner
[06:00] <phiber_optic> but I also used to like xmms
[06:00] <nbound> AF_Vet, reconfigure x
[06:00] <deicidus> phiber_optic, i would try both for a few minutes each and see which you like. im probably going to use rhythmbox but im not sure yet.
[06:00] <tritium> theneonshadow: no worries, buddy :)
[06:01] <Corrupter> ok, what exactly IS dapper?
[06:01] <Shadyman> !dapper
[06:01] <nbound> !dapper
[06:01] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:01] <Shadyman> nbound: Too slow :)
[06:01] <nbound> =(
[06:01] <theneonshadow> are you seriosuly telling me there is a rule in the coc agenst using the same chariter more than once in all caps?
[06:01] <lysis> it won't let me take a screenshot
[06:01] <lysis> any recommendations?
[06:01] <deicidus> i have a love/hate relationship with dapper
[06:01] <Corrupter> ah
[06:01] <tritium> theneonshadow: no
[06:01] <nbound> lysis, printscreen key
[06:02] <lysis> yep me too. =)
[06:02] <tritium> such a rule would be a bit much
[06:02] <Felix15> Hey, I purchased a new monitor, but the system will not let me increase my resolution beyond the old monitor's max.  Does anybody know how to fix this?
[06:02] <theneonshadow> tritium: well good, cuz im not going through that whole thing... im not THAT hyper
[06:02] <nbound> Shadyman, only if u wanna ship it all the way from good old canada to australia ;)
[06:02] <robotgeek> theneonshadow: i just felt that it might have been offensive, so i tht i'll remind you.
[06:02] <lysis> nbound, it doesn't work.
[06:02] <brenner> ubotu: tell Felix15 about fixres
[06:02] <robotgeek> nvm
[06:03] <theneonshadow> shadyman: whao how'd you do that * thing with the offering caffeine? i want cyber caffeine!
[06:03] <nbound> ;)
[06:03] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: It's a secret.
[06:03] <frazmanw> For some reason install fails on this computer (with SATA drives) but etc3, jfs xfs work, I am not sure why, but XFS and JFS are good too I have heard. Which shouuld I use?
[06:03] <theneonshadow> robotgeek: yeah i understand. It prolly was. Being off adhd meds makes me a little less thinging
[06:03] <Bobby> poningru: are you there?
[06:04] <theneonshadow> shadyman: :( please?
[06:04] <theneonshadow> shadyman: tell me in a pm!
[06:04] <nbound> frazmanw, it shouldnt =S
[06:04] <Felix15> I tried running the autodetection script, but after restarting, it crashed horribly and I had to switch back to the original xorg.conf file
[06:04] <nbound> Felix15, reconfigure x
[06:04] <nbound> ubotu tell Felix15 about xorg
[06:04] <robotgeek> theneonshadow: sorry, i misunderstood the situation. i tht u meant tritium. i need sleep
[06:05] <theneonshadow> robotgeek: its all cool
[06:05] <brenner> Felix15: what script?
[06:05] <theneonshadow> nbound: lol... what?? lol
[06:05] <frazmanw> nbound (10 installs failed with reiserfs tells me it may have run out of room in VAR directory, however I have set it up as 1 Gig swap, reiserfs 40 gig / dir, and 109 G /home
[06:05] <theneonshadow> YES
[06:05] <phiber_optic> are there any equalizer presets for Rythmbox?
[06:05] <theneonshadow> I CNA DO IT!
[06:05] <theneonshadow> YESSS
[06:05] <theneonshadow> Shadyman = the best
[06:05] <nbound> theneonshadow,  /me <stuff here>
[06:06] <nbound> frazmanw,  wait u said it worked and with ext3 didnt u?
[06:06] <frazmanw> nbound: yes
[06:06] <phiber_optic> are there any equalizer presets for Rythmbox??
[06:07] <nbound> frazmanw, thats the default install, so whats the prob?
[06:07] <nbound> frazmanw, what else would u want to use and why?
[06:07] <frazmanw> nbound, aren't the other filesystems better, I have always used reiserfs
[06:07] <theneonshadow> nbound: haha what now! you have nothing ot hit me with
[06:08] <nbound> frazmanw, i dont know ive never used em, i always though ext3 was best... what advantages do they have?
[06:08] <nbound> theneonshadow, type in !offtopic
[06:09] <Felix15> Felix15: asdf
[06:09] <phiber_optic> does anyon know how to change the default player?
[06:09] <frazmanw> nbound, I am sure other people in here could answer that better than me, however I have always used reiserfs in Gentoo in the past, From what I understood it is faster with small files
[06:09] <theneonshadow> do yall have any idea how terrible those jack in the box tacos are
[06:09] <theneonshadow> its like death... only more annoying and bad tasting
[06:10] <nbound> frazmanw, hmmm... ill have to read up on this before my next reinstall =P
[06:10] <tritium> theneonshadow: truly I tell you, that is offtopic
[06:10] <nbound> !offtopic
[06:10] <ubotu> offtopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[06:10] <Felix15> nbound: when in the configuration, what would be my "video card's bus identifier"  Its agp.  but the default says PCI:1:0:0
[06:10] <brenner> phiber_optic: use the open with tab in an mp3's properties thru nautilus
[06:10] <theneonshadow> tritium: sorry... what is the topic, Linux related questions/answers only?
[06:10] <crimsun> Felix15: that's because agp is nothing more than a glorified pci bus
[06:10] <frazmanw> Does anyone know which is better JFS or XFS file systems?
[06:11] <tritium> theneonshadow: ubuntu, more specifically ;)
[06:11] <nbound> Felix15, thats it, it counts it as a PCI bus
[06:11] <nbound> Felix15, it does the same with PCIE too
[06:11] <tritium> frazmanw: they each have pros/cons.  Like most choices, there are tradeoffs.
[06:11] <theneonshadow> tritium: you remind me of my trombone teacher
[06:11] <sam_> hi, ima having a problem accessing  a NTFS drive. can someone help
[06:11] <nbound> Seveas, can u kick him or something?
[06:11] <theneonshadow> where can i get the upgrade for firefox so that i can view wmv streams on webpages
[06:12] <nbound> theneonshadow, mozilla-mplayer
[06:12] <frazmanw> tritium: I have always used reiserfs, but it will not work correctly for some reason on this SATA setup on this machine so I am choosing a 2nd choice, any info for me?
[06:12] <glick> hey has anyone been havin trouble with the automounting of external firewire drives lately?
[06:12] <theneonshadow> nbound: sweet
[06:12] <Glacious> has anyone gotten Ubuntu to install onto a SATAII drive on a PCI SATA controller?
[06:12] <sam_> i do
[06:12] <brenner> sam_: what problem exactly?
[06:12] <tritium> frazmanw: not specifically.  I've only used ext3 and reiserfs journaling filesystems (I'll likely never use reiserfs again)
[06:13] <nbound> Glacious, most common sata controllers have drivers built in
[06:13] <sam_> basically, in the disk manager, the drive says inaccessable
[06:13] <phiber_optic> but that doesnt change the defautl
[06:13] <phiber_optic> it still opening with somehting else
[06:13] <sam_> i click enable and nothing
[06:13] <Glacious> nbound: using the 5.10 install/boot CD, it will not detect the SATA drive.
[06:13] <frazmanw> tririum, why you have issues with reiserfs?
[06:13] <nbound> glacious what model?
[06:13] <tritium> frazmanw: I've had serious corruption problems with it
[06:13] <brenner> sam_: chuck youer /etc/fstab content onto a pastebin
[06:14] <phiber_optic> anyone know any equalizer plugins for rythmbox?
[06:14] <sam_> whats the command for that?
[06:14] <sam_> thanks
[06:14] <frazmanw> tritium: never had those issues before. hmmm always worked perfect in other distros, and ubuntu on other machines
[06:14] <nbound> glacious also if u know what your doin u could try dapper
[06:14] <brenner> sam_: gedit /etc/fstab
[06:15] <tritium> frazmanw: just my personal take.  I'm not suggesting you avoid it.
[06:15] <jampdx> hey guys
[06:15] <jariep1_> i keep getting an error when trying to uninstall phpmyadmin, can somebody help me out?
[06:15] <jariep1_> i am using kubuntu
[06:15] <sam_> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[06:15] <sam_> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/sda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/sda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/hda        /media/cdrom1   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[06:15] <theneonshadow> why does terminal server client open when i try to open windows exe files? yes i know how to use them with wine, just curious
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/sdb        /media/usb0     auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[06:15] <sam_> /dev/sdc        /media/usb1     auto    rw,user,noauto  0   	0
[06:15] <nbound> sam_, PASTEBIN!!!!
[06:15] <theneonshadow> stop that you
[06:15] <jampdx> how's the linux going
[06:15] <sam_> sorry
[06:15] <Glacious> nbound: it is the Promise SATA300TX2plus
[06:15] <theneonshadow> sam_: stop that you
[06:15] <theneonshadow> sam_: thank you
[06:16] <tritium> sam_: pastebin next time, please
[06:16] <sam_> where is the pastebin
[06:16] <nbound> theneonshadow, if u associate windows exe's with it, it wont
[06:16] <nbound> !pastebin
[06:16] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:16] <jariep1_> how do I remove phpmyadmin, if it won't uninstall through adept?
[06:16] <nbound> Glacious, ill see what i can find
[06:16] <theneonshadow> k
[06:16] <phiber_optic> anyone know any equalizer plugins for rythmbox?
[06:16] <theneonshadow> nbound: sweet... it worked...
[06:16] <tritium> sam_: it's also listed in the channel topic
[06:16] <adub> in mplayer how can i make the video display bigger full screen still shows the video window bigger but the actual video stays the same size how can i change this??????
[06:16] <Glacious> nbound: excellent, thank you.
[06:16] <Felix15> thanks for the help all. about to see if it works :D
[06:17] <_jason> adub, change video output to 'xv'
[06:17] <Bobby> Hello everyone :)
[06:17] <theneonshadow> bobby: hello
[06:17] <Bobby> I have a newb question (sorry) :)
[06:17] <Bobby> ty :
[06:17] <Bobby> :)
[06:17] <theneonshadow> this is exaclly the place for newb questions
[06:17] <theneonshadow> i ask alot of them
[06:17] <nbound> Glacious, theres drivers and kernel source here http://www.promise.com/support/download/download2_eng.asp?category=all&os=100&productID=139
[06:18] <Bobby> do you know a lot about ubuntu, thene?
[06:18] <Foopub> How do you make a directory writable by "the web server" (Apache2)?
[06:18] <theneonshadow> bobby: me personally, no, but im in a class for it. But theres loads of cool peeps in here that are good with it
[06:18] <brenner> sam_: unless i'm mistaken, there aren't any ntfs partitions there.
[06:18] <nbound> Glacious, it might be hard gettin that to load in in install but =/
[06:18] <sam_> i think i did it
[06:18] <brenner> ubotu: tell sam_ about ntfs
[06:18] <theneonshadow> bobby: like nbound, he's helped alot that i've seen
[06:18] <tritium> theneonshadow: an ubuntu class?
[06:18] <Bobby> well, How to I install Firefox 1.5 on ubuntu?
[06:19] <GeorgeAScott> !diskmounter
[06:19] <ubotu> [diskmounter]  to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:19] <Glacious> nbound: yeah thats what i was thinking.  if it's not working during install, i can't get ubuntu on my desktop =(
[06:19] <brenner> sam_: check your pms
[06:19] <adub> _jason thanks how can i make the sound quality louder its feint
[06:19] <nbound> theneonshadow, hehe thanx =)
[06:19] <theneonshadow> Tritium: well no, not ubuntu, just linux in general.
[06:19] <timfrost> !ff1.5
[06:19] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:19] <phiber_optic> anyone know any equalizer plugins for rythmbox?
[06:19] <Glacious> nbound: just drool over the live CD for now, or install it on the slower IDE drive seconday.
[06:19] <_jason> adub, 9 and 0 change volume, if you need more 'man mplayer' and look for max software output or something like that
[06:20] <nbound> Glacious, does ur board have onboard sata?
[06:20] <theneonshadow> nbound: np :p
[06:20] <Glacious> nbound: no, just the PCI promise controller.
[06:20] <Bobby> thank you, ubotu :)
[06:20] <_jason> adub, -softvol-max is th option you want to look at
[06:21] <nbound> Glacious, damn =( , u could try dapper see if its install willrecognize it
[06:21] <theneonshadow> tritium: are there ubuntu classes?
[06:21] <_jason> adub, but really I've never had a need, are you sure your volume is up?  (double-click on the volume ivon by the clock and check pcm)
[06:21] <nbound> Glacious, but dapper is unstable still so wouldnt recommend unless u know what ur doin
[06:21] <tritium> theneonshadow: not that I am aware of.
[06:21] <Glacious> nbound: how unstable?
[06:21] <Foopub> I'm trying to figure out how to make a directory writable by the web server. Is there a group or user I need to give ownership? (I tried www-data already.)
[06:21] <sam_> in the diskmounter instructions, it says to save the file on the local hard disk, but where
[06:22] <adub> normalize sound option did it
[06:22] <GeorgeAScott> anywhere you want
[06:22] <theneonshadow> tritium: yeah i didn't think so
[06:22] <GeorgeAScott> you just have to type the full path
[06:22] <nbound> Glacious, it works, but u may run into problems, depending on ur setup etc., and other ones just because =P
[06:22] <GeorgeAScott> so don't save it anywhere where the path name is real long...
[06:22] <GeorgeAScott> well you could if you wanted to
[06:22] <brenner> sam_: anywhere, it's just a small script.  you can delete it later
[06:22] <sam_> i then type sudo bash diskmounter. no such file or directory
[06:23] <sam_> it's an html file
[06:23] <nbound> Glacious, for example a guy earlier tryed it, and it couldnt start xserver up
[06:23] <Glacious> nbound: i'll risk it.  as long as the boot loader goes in fine and i can still get to XP for those 'stupid programs' i need.
[06:23] <nbound> Glacious, use wine =P
[06:23] <Bobby> Hello :) Can someone help me to install Firefox 1.5?
[06:23] <nbound> !ff1.5
[06:23] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:23] <Knelix> Okay, so I installed the NVIDIA driver and control panel.  Questions: Where is the NVIDIA control panel and how do I get my monitor to a higher refresh rate than the resolution control panel lets me (I knowit  can do more than 60Hz.) ?
[06:24] <brenner> sam_: no.  it's a plain text bash script
[06:24] <Bobby> ubotu, i tried that, it gives me an error
[06:24] <ubotu> Bobby: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:24] <Bobby> ubotu, i tried that, it gives me an error
[06:24] <sam_> do i have to rename the file extension?
[06:24] <brenner> sam_: you have to type that command in the dir where you saved the file
[06:24] <Bobby> ubotu, i tried that, it gives me an error
[06:24] <theneonshadow> ok i'm out y'all!! c ya
[06:24] <nbound> Bobby, ubotu is a bot
[06:24] <nbound> theneonshadow, cya
[06:24] <theneonshadow> bobby: ubotu is a robot
[06:24] <brenner> sam_: no. linux FS don't depend on extensions to determine filteype
[06:24] <Bobby> ah, ok
[06:24] <nbound> Bobby, i made him say what he said
[06:25] <nbound> !ff1.5
[06:25] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:25] <nbound> hehe
[06:25] <Glacious> nbound: i'll grab dapper now and just see if it even detects the SATA.  if it does, at least i have something to look forward to later :)
[06:25] <Bobby> nbound, so you know?
[06:25] <nbound> Bobby, not a clue, whats wrong with what ur using atm anyway
[06:25] <nbound> Glacious, good luck =)
[06:25] <Bobby> nbound, its an older version, and slower too
[06:26] <Shadyman> How come i can't edit tags from within Rhythmbox?
[06:26] <nbound> Bobby, slower? that depends on ur connection speed
[06:26] <sam_> for firefox run these 2 lines - wget http://beerorkid.com/automatix/automatix-ubuntu_4.4-2_i386.deb
[06:26] <sam_> sudo dpkg -i automatix-ubuntu_4.4-2_i386.deb
[06:26] <brenner> Shadyman: b/c they didn't include a tag editor
[06:26] <Glacious> nbound: thank you :)
[06:26] <Bobby> nbound, no, i mean rendering speed
[06:27] <nbound> Bobby, u can speed that up, google: speed up firefox
[06:27] <tomkelleher> hey guys, whats this nubuntu I've read about
[06:27] <Bobby> nbound, but there are extensions i want to use with v1.5
[06:27] <theneonshadow> k bak... :( where is the C;/program files. dir for wine
[06:28] <brenner> Shadyman: try easytag or mp3info-gtk
[06:28] <theneonshadow> i cant find the wine directory at all
[06:28] <nbound> Bobby, wait till dapper then =P , what extensions u need anyway?
[06:28] <Bobby> nbound: from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion "For some reason, the mozilla.com build of Firefox is significantly faster than the default Ubuntu one. Firefox 1.5 is even faster, and has many new features."
[06:28] <nbound> theneonshadow, u ran winecfg?
[06:28] <Bobby> a whole bunch
[06:28] <theneonshadow> yeah
[06:28] <theneonshadow> nbound: yea
[06:28] <Shadyman> brenner: thx
[06:29] <brenner> sam_: did you mount your partition/s?
[06:29] <tritium> theneonshadow: perhaps you'd find using winetools from winehq.com easier thanw winecfg
[06:29] <sam_> yes
[06:29] <nbound> theneonshadow, , ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[06:29] <Glacious> wheres the best place to get the latest dapper install cD?
[06:29] <theneonshadow> nbound: ahhh that worked
[06:29] <Shadyman> brenner: The play count and Last Played date don't show up on Rhythmbox either. Is it not supported yet?
[06:29] <nbound> Glacious, any of the ubuntu mirrors
[06:29] <sam_> but they seem inaccessable through disk in administration
[06:29] <brenner> sam_: ok cool.  what are you doing now?
[06:30] <crimsun> Glacious: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-January/000048.html
[06:30] <nbound> theneonshadow,  .wine is a hidden folder in ur home directory and that ~ = /home/<your name>/
[06:30] <Glacious> crimsun: thanks
[06:30] <Foopub> What do you guys recommend as a mailserver?
[06:30] <brenner> Shadyman: it is.  edit > prefs
[06:30] <Glacious> nbound: got it
[06:30] <theneonshadow> yeah i got it
[06:30] <sam_> ubuntu can't seem to access the drive
[06:31] <theneonshadow> nbound: i just did a search under what you typed before and it found it
[06:31] <nbound> theneonshadow, if u enable hidden folders u can even goto it in nautilus instead of terminal
[06:31] <theneonshadow> nbound: oh, good idea
[06:31] <brenner> sam_: paste your /etc/fstab again. to a PASTEBIN. :)
[06:31] <nbound> theneonshadow, hehe ;) remember use appdb if a game doesnt work properly its invaluable
[06:32] <theneonshadow> it gives me a weird message when i try to use winecfg: fixme:jack:JACK_drvLoad error loading the jack library libjack.so, please install this library to use jack
[06:32] <theneonshadow> i didnt try to use any 'Jack'
[06:32] <crimsun> check your config file for wine
[06:33] <nbound> AHHHH all my rightclick open in webbrowser clicks open it ina browser called galleon =S
[06:33] <bimberi> !flight3 is <reply> Dapper Flight CD 3 is ready - http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-January/000048.html
[06:33] <ubotu> bimberi: okay
[06:33] <brenner> Shadyman: wanna try out a bug i found in rythmbox?  try resizing any of the columns.
[06:33] <theneonshadow> nbound: you lost me
[06:34] <theneonshadow> brenner: thats in intersting name
[06:34] <Foopub> Can anyone see this at all? I haven't gotten a response for an hour.
[06:34] <sam_> pasted
[06:34] <nbound> theneonshadow, lol sorry, what did u set ur sound to in winecfg
[06:34] <Shadyman> Foopub: Yep
[06:34] <theneonshadow> nbound: psh i dunno
[06:34] <bimberi> Foopub: no :)
[06:34] <nbound> theneonshadow, set it to oss or alsa (oss gives best results for me but ymmv)
[06:34] <brenner> theneonshadow: ta
[06:35] <Foopub> bimberi: How do I fix that?
[06:35] <sam_> i get this message when trying to access the drive-->>mount: /dev/hde1 already mounted or /media/hde1 busy
[06:35] <bimberi> Foopub: i was joking ...
[06:35] <Foopub> bimberi: Me too
[06:35] <bimberi> Foopub: phew, you had me worried :P
[06:35] <theneonshadow> nbound alrighty
[06:36] <bimberi> Foopub: i've seen dovecot recommended a bit
[06:36] <nbound> sam_, unmount then remount it
[06:36] <nbound> also if its a cd try to ejject it
[06:36] <nbound> eject*
[06:37] <Foopub> bimberi: Hmm, OK. I've never heard of it. Is it widely used?
[06:37] <ilba7r> any one know of a link that have goals/ packages and status of Dapper. Other than just cosmetics change?
[06:37] <Foopub> I'm sort of looking for the Apache of mail servers.
[06:37] <adriyel> then use apache
[06:37] <nbound> theneonshadow, sif they didnt know that ; P
[06:37] <frazmanw> I think I may be missing a library or something, I have the regular ubuntu sounds but don't get sound in any little linux games. ie. supertux, pingus, chromium. any ideas
[06:37] <Foopub> adriyel: Apache is a mail server now?
[06:37] <sam_> i can't, it sayd it's not mounted
[06:37] <theneonshadow> nbound: you solved the weird error message!
[06:37] <Bobby> Where is package manager in ubuntu?
[06:38] <adriyel> Foopub, whoa
[06:38] <adriyel> Foopub, woops, brain fart
[06:38] <ilba7r> Bobby, synaptic
[06:38] <adriyel> Foopub, its 1am where I am
[06:38] <Bobby> under what?
[06:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Bobby about apt-get
[06:38] <adriyel> Foopub, darn, I need sleep
[06:38] <pansonic> i need to set my horizontal & vertical settings for my monitor - which file do i edit
[06:38] <Foopub> adriyel: OK. :)
[06:38] <nalioth> Bobby: look to your private msgs
[06:38] <theneonshadow> nbound: what would happen if i just enabled all the sound drivers? would that be ok?
[06:38] <ilba7r> Bobby, system>administration but you can type gksudo synaptic in a terminal
[06:38] <nbound> theneonshadow, yeah, but u'll get that msg again AND it will run slower
[06:39] <theneonshadow> nbound: i'll take that as a no
[06:39] <nbound> theneonshadow, just use OSS its fast and it works =P
[06:39] <brenner> pansonic: as in sync rates?  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:39] <theneonshadow> nbound: kk
[06:39] <nbound> brenner why did u ask me if it was the original gta3
[06:40] <bimberi> Foopub: unsure of dovecot usage sorry
[06:40] <pansonic> brenner yes synch rATES
[06:40] <theneonshadow> nbound: is there a way to make it tell me all the windows type programs installed or od i have to go to the c:/program files/ to find that out
[06:41] <nbound> theneonshadow, not afaik
[06:41] <nbound> theneonshadow, so yes
[06:41] <pansonic> Brenner: Thanks
[06:41] <Bobby> how can i check to see if i have the libstdc++5 package installed on my system?
[06:41] <theneonshadow> nbound: blech... fine...
[06:41] <crimsun> Bobby: dpkg -l libstdc++5|grep ^ii
[06:42] <brenner> pansonic: np
[06:42] <Bobby> crim, it says:     ii  libstdc++5     3.3.6-8ubuntu1 The GNU Standard C++ Library v3
[06:42] <theneonshadow> nbound: where do i enable hidden files?
[06:42] <Foopub> It looks like Cyrus and Dovecot are the two officially supported mail servers. Has anyone here tried them?
[06:42] <crimsun> Bobby: so yes
[06:42] <Bobby> cool
[06:42] <Bobby> thanks
[06:43] <nbound> theneonshadow, edit->prefs
[06:43] <SlashX1896> hey all.. i had to get rid of ubuntu =\ i couldnt get internet on it w/o wireless... and i d ont get my new router for a week... i d die without interent for a week
[06:43] <Glacious> is it possible (or even remotely easy) to build a Ubuntu installation on an ATA drive, compile SATA support into the kernel, move it to a SATA drive, and boot it?
[06:43] <theneonshadow> nbound swwwwwwweet
[06:43] <SlashX1896> When i get a new router im gonna need to learn how to dual boot
[06:44] <joseph> I don't understand man visudo
[06:44] <nbound> Glacious, possible id say so, remotely easy i highly doubt it
[06:44] <nalioth> Glacious: ubuntu has sata support by default
[06:44] <Glacious> nalioth: not for PCI Promise controllers
[06:44] <Glacious> at least not in 5.10
[06:44] <nbound> nalioth, not all sata controllers
[06:45] <Shadyman> night all
[06:45] <nalioth> Glacious: ah, yes, the problematic controller issue...
[06:45] <White_Lightning> hey I have a dual-boot machine, can I access my linux drive when running windows?
[06:45] <geneo93> crimsun:  are you around
[06:45] <sam_> any reason why i would have mounting problems with an ntfs drive
[06:45] <Glacious> nalioth: Promise SATA300TX2plus, doesn't detect any SATA drives.
[06:45] <theneonshadow> nbound: ahhh, i cant find that stupid c:/program files again
[06:45] <crimsun> geneo93: pong
[06:45] <White_Lightning> NTFS doesn't work well with linux
[06:45] <White_Lightning> FAT32 does
[06:45] <nbound> theneonshadow, , ~/.wine/drive_c/Program\ Files/
[06:46] <White_Lightning> but if anyone has a clue how to access a linux drive from a windows environment that would be great
[06:46] <theneonshadow> nbound: yeah yeah, this was was easier
[06:46] <White_Lightning> I can't find any programs or anything
[06:46] <geneo93> crimsun:  i'm working in dapper and it has my bt878 listed in alsa mixer and i cant get sblive there
[06:46] <sam_> so it's a hit or miss?
[06:46] <nbound> theneonshadow, no my up arrow, press up to see past commands and stuff u typed
[06:46] <crimsun> geneo93: is your live listed in /proc/asound/cards ?
[06:46] <theneonshadow> nbound: actually... it really wasnt... it felt easier
[06:46] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[06:46] <frazmanw> I have sound working but if I load any games I have no sound. Any ideas?
[06:47] <nbound> White_Lightning, check an article on www.overclockers.com.au home page
[06:47] <White_Lightning> thanks
[06:47] <crimsun> frazmanw: disable esd via System> Preferences> Sound> Enable sound server startup   prior to starting your game, and reenable it when you exit your game
[06:47] <theneonshadow> nbound. whao... thats cool. Although that could be my add bieng easily impressed
[06:47] <nbound> White_Lightning, it has a bit about an ext2/ext3 driver for windows
[06:48] <crimsun> frazmanw: many games use oss [emulation] , which hog the sound device
[06:48] <frazmanw> crimsun: I didn't have to do that with my last install, there was a library or something missing, i just forget what it was. I am talking little simple games
[06:48] <crimsun> frazmanw: thus you can't expect to hear system sounds when you're playing an oss game unless you use the aoss script, part of the alsa-oss package
[06:48] <geneo93> crimsun:  i dont see that file at all
[06:49] <crimsun> geneo93: you don't have a /proc/asound directory?
[06:49] <geneo93> guess not
[06:49] <nbound> crimsun, just use OSS =P
[06:49] <crimsun> geneo93: ls -l /proc/asound
[06:49] <dooglus> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProgramCrash suggests building packages as root.  I've always been told that it's a bad idea to build stuff as root.  Is that an error on the wiki page?
[06:50] <crimsun> nbound: eh?
[06:50] <nbound> to get most stuff working OSS seems to have the best compatibility
[06:50] <theneonshadow> nbound: whats the terminal command for opening dirs
[06:50] <CHEEZ-IT> My system keeps saying the root password is incorrect when i try to use 'system then adminstrate' functions
[06:50] <dooglus> theneonshadow: what do you want to do with the directory?
[06:50] <geneo93> crimsun:  Bt878  card1  devices  Live     oss  seq     version
[06:50] <geneo93> card0  cards  hwdep    modules  pcm  timers
[06:50] <nbound> theneonshadow, cd -havent u used dos ;)
[06:50] <CHEEZ-IT> but i know im typing it right
[06:51] <crimsun> geneo93: so it /does/ exist. What are the contents of /proc/asound/cards?
[06:51] <nbound> cd = change directory if ur wonder why they would call it that ;)
[06:51] <dooglus> CHEEZ-IT: type your user password, not the root one
[06:51] <theneonshadow> nbound: i can't believe i didnt rememeber that
[06:51] <CHEEZ-IT> Oh thanks :)
[06:52] <CHEEZ-IT> Dooglus
[06:52] <theneonshadow> nbound: when was the last time i went to sleep...
[06:52] <dooglus> CHEEZ-IT: you don't have a root password, do you?
[06:52] <Vaske_Car> is there any way to see that somebody hacked my Ubuntu?
[06:52] <CHEEZ-IT> yes...?
[06:52] <nbound> theneonshadow, lol
[06:52] <geneo93> crimsun:  emty
[06:52] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: not really
[06:52] <theneonshadow> nbound: im serious... god... thats really bad
[06:52] <Vaske_Car> or that somebody is using it
[06:52] <crimsun> geneo93: pastebin the output from ``lsmod''
[06:52] <theneonshadow> nbound: my professors would be pissed
[06:52] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: if the hacker is clever enough it will be almost impossible to detect his presence
[06:53] <CHEEZ-IT> Hmm, it still wont open the things i click. After i entered the password
[06:53] <theneonshadow> nbound: angry* (forgot about the coc rules)
[06:53] <nbound> theneonshadow, lol, my UAI wasnt even high enough for uni
[06:53] <theneonshadow> nbound: haha
[06:53] <Vaske_Car> can firestarte help?? (im also behing firewall)
[06:53] <White_Lightning> hey nbound, thanks I just installed it and it worked
[06:53] <White_Lightning> nice
[06:53] <crimsun> geneo93: and how do you judge that /proc/asound/cards is empty? Even if ALSA's inactive, the file will have "no soundcards" as content
[06:53] <volvoguy> i'm back. i just noticed that one of the disks in my software raid1 array isn't working. is there some kind of test i can do to see what's wrong? i tried adding it back in manually but it didn't work.
[06:54] <nbound> White_Lightning, heh i dont eve remember what i helped u with now =(
[06:54] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: once your box has been hacked, you can't be sure which programs have been changed by the hacker
[06:54] <geneo93> crimsun:  http://pastebin.com/504955
[06:54] <theneonshadow> nbound: mine were just good enough. But only just.
[06:54] <Vaske_Car> dooglus, so what can I do?
[06:55] <White_Lightning> nbound: file system drivers for ext2 to access a linux drive from windows
[06:55] <crimsun> geneo93: use paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:55] <theneonshadow> nbound: im only just starting though
[06:55] <nbound> White_Lightning, oh thats right, luckily i checked the news this morning ;)
[06:55] <RedRose> how do i automate a program to execute every 24 hours?
[06:55] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: reformat and reinstall is the only way to be sure.  but then the hacker will get back in using the same hole he used last time.
[06:55] <RedRose> Vaske_Car:What Aout hackers?
[06:55] <nbound> theneonshadow, yeah i was just too lazy in 11 and 12, im not dumb by any means =P
[06:56] <dooglus> RedRose: if you want it run as root, put it in /etc/cron.hourly
[06:56] <dooglus> RedRose: otherwise read the "crontab" man page
[06:56] <crimsun> s/hour/dai/
[06:56] <nbound> Vaske_Car, FIREWALL ;)
[06:56] <CHEEZ-IT> Vaske_Car you could see when files were last updated... and check if they match when you updated
[06:57] <dooglus> CHEEZ-IT: a hacker would never think of setting the access times back after modifying the files?
[06:57] <RedRose> Vaske_Car:What's the problem with hackers Vaske_Car? i'm a novice at it, so i might be able to help
[06:57] <theneonshadow> nbound: you could prolly still retake an sat or somthing
[06:57] <frazmanw> crimsun: I had this problem a month ago on another machine, someone in here told me to install something, I think lib??? and then it worked. the way it is not is like it was on the other maching before doing that, sound settings are not even on in the games. there is something missing
[06:57] <CHEEZ-IT> dooglus well a stupid hacker :
[06:57] <CHEEZ-IT> :)
[06:57] <theneonshadow> nbound: admistions test or somthing
[06:57] <geneo93> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7242 crimsun
[06:57] <theneonshadow> nbound: im too lazy to spell if you havent noticed
[06:57] <Vaske_Car> something overloading my bandwith
[06:57] <Vaske_Car> width
[06:57] <theneonshadow> nbound: i just type as fast as possible regardless
[06:58] <nbound> theneonshadow, lol, yeah i could or redo 11/12 at TAFE, but i think ill do an apprenticeship then goto uni
[06:58] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: you're not running some p2p client?
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> no
[06:58] <crimsun> geneo93: and the output from ``cat /proc/asound/cards''?
[06:58] <nbound> Vaske_Car, how do u know a hacker even got in?
[06:58] <RedRose> Vaske_Car:How Did they overload it? local access, dDos?
[06:58] <dooglus> Vaske_Car: run "sudo tcpdump" and see what stuffs going on the network
[06:58] <nbound> Vaske_Car, only a bad one would ever leave a trace
[06:58] <crimsun> frazmanw: what lib?
[06:58] <Vaske_Car> brb
[06:58] <crimsun> frazmanw: perhaps it's easier if you say which game
[06:59] <theneonshadow> nbounds thats not a bad idea
[06:59] <RedRose> dooglus:if i put something in the cron.daily, will it take a program, or does it have to be a script?
[06:59] <frazmanw> crimson, I did above. supertux, chromium, frozen-bubble etc
[06:59] <dooglus> RedRose: I'm not sure.  I think anything at all is OK.  you should probably just put a symbolic link to a program
[06:59] <RedRose> k
[06:59] <nbound> theneonshadow, yeah i make money while u owe it ;) and ive always got a trade as a backup if i want it :p
[07:00] <sam_> i'm getting a mounting error when trying to mount an NTFS drive
[07:00] <geneo93> crimsun:  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7243
[07:00] <theneonshadow> nbound: good point. That kinda hurt a little...
[07:00] <dooglus> RedGhost: like "sudo ln /usr/bin/ls /etc/cron.hourly"
[07:00] <crimsun> frazmanw: dpkg -l libsdl1.2debian-alsa|grep ^ii
[07:00] <theneonshadow> nbound: i do ebay work... :(
[07:00] <dooglus> RedGhost: or was it daily?
[07:00] <theneonshadow> nbound: haha
[07:00] <mark_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[07:00] <mark_>   gftp: Depends: gftp-gtk (= 2.0.18-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:00] <mark_>         Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:00] <mark_> E: Broken packages
[07:00] <mark_> whats this about?
[07:01] <theneonshadow> nbound: i don't so much make money with ebay as i... really really don't
[07:01] <crimsun> !info gftp-gtk
[07:01] <ubotu> gftp-gtk: (X/GTK+ FTP client), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0.18-10 (breezy), Packaged size: 263 kB, Installed size: 736 kB
[07:01] <dooglus> mark_: try installing gftp-text and it will tell you more
[07:01] <nbound> theneonshadow, i love ebay, i would have shit all without its ultralow prices
[07:01] <theneonshadow> nbound: if its comp stuff you want fo cheap go to geeks.com
[07:01] <mark_> gftp-common (= 2.0.18-2) but it is not going to be installed
[07:01] <mark_> E: Broken packages
[07:01] <dooglus> mark_: try installing gftp-text and it will tell you more
[07:01] <nbound> theneonshadow, i actually use overclockers.com.au for cheap puter stuff
[07:02] <mark_> dooglus, i did, and it gave that error
[07:02] <nbound> theneonshadow, u gotta be a member for 90 days though
[07:02] <theneonshadow> nbound: thats a good site.
[07:02] <dooglus> oh, so try installing gftp-common then
[07:02] <theneonshadow> Nbound: yeah i was about to say. I wasn't willing ot wait
[07:02] <crimsun> mark_: are you using Breezy?
[07:02] <mark_> crimsun, ya
[07:02] <crimsun> mark_: you must be using a non-Ubuntu repo, then
[07:03] <mark_> i used the starter guide
[07:03] <crimsun> 2.0.18-10 0 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[07:03] <nbound> theneonshadow, its worth it and its a good little (er: 60000ppl) online community, the irc room is a crackup btw
[07:03] <ajmitch> theneonshadow: #ubuntu-offtopic is more appropriate
[07:03] <crimsun> mark_: what did you attempt to install?
[07:03] <mark_> crimsun, gftp
[07:03] <frazmanw> crimsun: ok, it did nothing?
[07:04] <crimsun> mark_: pastebin the output from ``apt-cache policy gftp''
[07:04] <nbound> theneonshadow, u got msn if u wanna keep talking offtopic ill add you there
[07:04] <crimsun> frazmanw: sudo apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[07:04] <CHEEZ-IT> Is VSFTPD installed with ubuntu?
[07:04] <crimsun> CHEEZ-IT: not by default
[07:04] <CHEEZ-IT> oh :(
[07:05] <mark_> crimsun, http://pastebin.com/509429
[07:05] <theneonshadow> nbound: neonshadow89@msn.com
[07:05] <crimsun> frazmanw: it's fine if by installing that package other libsdl1.2debian* ones are removed
[07:05] <frazmanw> crimsun: they are i am trying now
[07:05] <nbound> theneonshadow, thx
[07:06] <crimsun> mark_: you said you were using breezy. This is a hoary deb line.
[07:06] <frazmanw> crimsun: worked, thank you very much. that must have been it
[07:06] <theneonshadow> nbound: i dont think im on tho
[07:06] <crimsun> mark_: lsb_release -r
[07:06] <theneonshadow> nbound: ill be on soon
[07:06] <nbound> lol
[07:06] <mark_> crimsun, oops :) so what do i do know :)
[07:06] <crimsun> frazmanw: excellent
[07:06] <frazmanw> crimsun: is there a reason not to use  libsdl1.2debian-esd??? since i have things set to esd?
[07:07] <theneonshadow> nbound: JK its @hotmail.com
[07:07] <matrix> i need extras source for ubuntu 64
[07:07] <nbound> theneonshadow, lmao, i was wonderin why it wouldnt work =/
[07:07] <crimsun> frazmanw: well, if you have esd running, sure you can install libsdl1.2debian-esd, but I think you'll find that performance suffers
[07:07] <frazmanw> crimsun: also which should I set as my sound esd or alsa, in gentoo I always used alsa
[07:07] <theneonshadow> nbound: i be on now
[07:08] <nbound> theneonshadow, just added
[07:08] <mkyb14> how do you use the assistive technology support (magnifier) i cant figure out how to use it
[07:08] <crimsun> frazmanw: the defaults should suffice, but the distro is migrating away from esd
[07:08] <frazmanw> crimsun: to alsa?
[07:08] <crimsun> frazmanw: yes
[07:08] <mark_> crimsun, Release:        5.10
[07:08] <frazmanw> crimsun: you are great thanks!
[07:09] <crimsun> mark_: that's breezy, not hoary. So...why do you have a hoary deb line in your /etc/apt/sources.list ?
[07:09] <sls> anyone ever rip a dvd to disk for watchine on say an airplane?
[07:09] <crimsun> !repos
[07:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:09] <crimsun> mark_: go to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 and use that sources.list
[07:09] <sam_> anyone have trouble mounting a NTFS partition?
[07:09] <matrix> breezy
[07:10] <crimsun> sam_: in what sense?
[07:10] <mark_> crimsun, cause im new to ubuntu and was following the guide... :)
[07:10] <frazmanw> crimsun: know anything about ATI drivers? I am using the ones in apt, wondering if I should switch to latest ATI. (performance increase?)
[07:10] <sls> well I riped a dvd and the rsulting mpg plays fine its just that the lips are not in synch with the sound...
[07:10] <crimsun> frazmanw: I don't, sorry
[07:10] <sls> what is wrong...
[07:10] <sls> ?
[07:11] <sls> I am using xine to play back...
[07:11] <geneo93> crimsun:  did you get that last message
[07:11] <kestasworkacc> it's out of sync
[07:11] <kestasworkacc> check out vcdhelp.com
[07:11] <sls> vcd help... ok
[07:11] <mark_> crimsun, anywho.. thanks for that.. btw, do you know why after installing the nvidia drivers (i have a geforce3) glxgears is going really slow, and not fast as it is supposed to?
[07:12] <mkyb14> is there a magnifiaction program out there for linux so that i can see my screen in areas magnified or just larger when need be
[07:12] <crimsun> geneo93: which?
[07:12] <corptix> how can i play swf files on my computer ?
[07:12] <geneo93> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7243 crimsun
[07:12] <crimsun> geneo93: yes, I saw that.
[07:12] <crimsun> geneo93: what's the output from ``amixer''?
[07:13] <geneo93> why is the irq so nutty crimsun
[07:13] <corptix> how can i play swf files on my computer ?
[07:13] <crimsun> geneo93: 169? that's fine for ACPI-enabled
[07:13] <geneo93> ALSA lib simple.c:952:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Front Playback Volume',0,0,0) appears twice or more
[07:13] <geneo93> amixer: Mixer default load error: Invalid argument crimsun
[07:13] <s_spiff{AWAY}> mkyb14, i think in KDe there is a application..like windows magnifier..check it out..
[07:14] <Krelbel> quick question guys
[07:14] <crimsun> mkyb14: are you using breezy?
[07:14] <Krelbel> how do I get access to folders shared on my windows computer
[07:14] <Krelbel> with my laptop running ubuntu?
[07:14] <mkyb14> yes
[07:14] <crimsun> mkyb14: in a Terminal, type: dpkg -l gnopernicus|grep ^ii
[07:14] <mkyb14> i know about the assistive tech
[07:15] <mkyb14> ?
[07:15] <corptix> how can i play swf files on my computer ?
[07:15] <Icemaann> im trying to call startx (for mythtv) and Im getting "user not authorized to run the X server"
[07:15] <crimsun> mkyb14: gnopernicus is the utility for screen area magnification
[07:15] <mkyb14> yea i see it
[07:15] <BlueEagle> icemaann: Then you're not authorized to start the x server.
[07:15] <mkyb14> can't use it or know how to activate it
[07:15] <BlueEagle> icemaann: sudo startx
[07:15] <BlueEagle> icemaann: allay that. sudo /etc/init.d/gmd start
[07:16] <varsendagger> hey how do i browse a windows comp on the network?
[07:16] <crimsun> mkyb14: in System> Preferences> Assistive [..] , did you check the box that starts the magnifier?
[07:16] <nbound> varsendagger, samba
[07:16] <Icemaann> BlueEagle: yea, but that runs X as root. i was going off the ubuntu wiki. I can make it work with gdm and autologin
[07:16] <Foopub> OK, if I set up postfix according to the Ubuntu Wiki, how do I manage who can send mail?
[07:16] <BlueEagle> varsendagger: That depends on how the windows resources are shared.
[07:16] <varsendagger> i know aobut samba, but i've never used ti along with nautilus, what do i need to do
[07:16] <mkyb14> says i might need gnome-mag also so i'll let that install and check it again
[07:17] <crimsun> geneo93: close all your audio applications, and in a Terminal: sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-reload
[07:17] <BlueEagle> varsendagger: smb://server/resource might work.
[07:17] <sls> ok ... lots of windows help there...
[07:17] <corptix> how can i play swf files on my computer ?
[07:17] <crimsun> corptix: enable the multiverse repository, then install flashplugin-nonfree
[07:17] <varsendagger> BlueEagle, i have done it with samba before but it was all cli so i want to use nautilus, if you could tell me what ot install
[07:18] <corptix> yeh i have done that
[07:18] <BlueEagle> varsendagger: You have installed samba, right?
[07:18] <crimsun> corptix: now load the swf in a firefox window
[07:18] <mkyb14> ok there's no config just a box thats all wacked out
[07:18] <mkyb14> so i'm thinking thats the mag box
[07:18] <corptix> its on my box the file
[07:18] <corptix> hoa am i gonna load it in firefox
[07:18] <BlueEagle> brb
[07:18] <corptix> open with?
[07:18] <varsendagger> yeah
[07:18] <varsendagger> just now
[07:19] <geneo93> crimsun:  Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload)
[07:19] <varsendagger> corptix, did you get it?
[07:19] <corptix> nope doesnt work
[07:20] <crimsun> geneo93: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 && sudo modprobe snd-bt87x
[07:20] <varsendagger> swf is flash right?
[07:21] <corptix> yup
[07:21] <phiber-optic> goodnite everyone
[07:21] <crimsun> mkyb14: did you log out and back in after installing gnopernicus?
[07:22] <geneo93> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7244
[07:22] <mkyb14> yea that was earlier
[07:22] <mkyb14> now i can't get rid of this wierd box
[07:22] <mkyb14> it's black and white
[07:22] <mkyb14> and tries to follow the mouse
[07:22] <crimsun> geneo93: sigh.
[07:22] <corptix> ...
[07:23] <BlueEagle> where did varsendagger go now?
[07:23] <crimsun> geneo93: sudo invoke-rc.d alsa force-unload && sudo rm -f /var/lib/alsa/asound.state && sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1 && sudo modprobe snd-bt87x
[07:23] <crimsun> corptix: what doesn't work?
[07:24] <corptix> i cant load swf files wel lit wont play.
[07:24] <geneo93> ok got that done crimsun
[07:24] <BlueEagle> !flash
[07:24] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[07:24] <BlueEagle> !tell corptix about flash
[07:24] <BlueEagle> corptix: ubotu will show you the way...
[07:25] <ejofee> how do i delete 58 news from a rss feed in liferea?
[07:26] <nbound> !multimedia
[07:26] <ubotu> methinks multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:26] <ardchoille> Does anyone know where I can get some openbox themes?
[07:26] <crimsun> geneo93: all commands completed successfully without errors?
[07:26] <corptix> root@corptix:/home/corptix# apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla
[07:26] <corptix> Reading package lists... Done
[07:26] <corptix> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:26] <corptix> E: Couldn't find package flashplayer-mozilla
[07:26] <nalioth> corptix: please dont paste in here
[07:26] <geneo93> crimsun:  no
[07:27] <crimsun> geneo93: you said it was done
[07:27] <geneo93>  still that error about volume 000 apears twice
[07:28] <crimsun> geneo93: lspci -nv -->pastebin
[07:28] <timfrost> corptix, flashplayer-mozilla is in universe repository.  You need to add that repository
[07:29] <crimsun> erm
[07:29] <crimsun> it should be in multiverse
[07:29] <ssdo> anybody in here tried suse10 the SUPER version?
[07:29] <corptix> k
[07:29] <ssdo> how true is their claim for speed?
[07:29] <BlueEagle> ardchoille: http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/1087/ according to google
[07:29] <timfrost> corptix, crimsun is right. breezy/multiverse
[07:30] <corptix> k
[07:30] <geneo93> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7245 crimsun
[07:34] <lysis> Video codec 'MS WMV 9 (win32)' is not handled. You might need to install additional plugins to be able to play some types of movies
[07:34] <lysis> Totem-xine says that.  what's it mean?
[07:34] <lysis> i thought i had all the codecs on.
[07:34] <nbound> lysis, get w32codecs :P
[07:34] <luisito> hello
[07:34] <lysis> nbound, i have them.
[07:35] <nbound> !multimeda
[07:35] <ubotu> nbound: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:35] <nbound> !multimedia
[07:35] <ubotu> it has been said that multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:35] <eliasz> CanYouHelpMePlz, transcode http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Transcode_Examples
[07:35] <nbound> get all the codecs frm the first link lysis
[07:37] <calc> anyone happen to know why firefox in dapper amd64 immediately segv on start?
[07:37] <nbound> calc, because dapper is unstable =P
[07:37] <nbound> !dapper
[07:37] <ubotu> The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[07:38] <crimsun> geneo93: *chuckle*
[07:38] <calc> nbound: this is actually the first i recall in the past 2 years that something major has broken in ubuntu unstable
[07:38] <geneo93> yes thats what i fear
[07:38] <crimsun> geneo93: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[07:39] <nbound> calc, yeah theres been alot of probs with Dapper from what ive heard and read here
[07:39] <geneo93> crimsun:  its a sblive
[07:39] <crimsun> geneo93: not according to the PCI id it's not
[07:39] <luisito> if I save a session with a file open and then I don't want the session to open the file anymore when I start the session what should I do?
[07:40] <calc> nbound: hmm haven't seen any until now
[07:40] <jrattner1> how do i get ls to list the full path to every file in a directory
[07:40] <calc> yep not going to find any useful info in the backtrace since its in stripped and threaded code
[07:40] <nbound> calc, ive been dealing with the all day =P
[07:40] <geneo93> crimsun:  it lies this is old card not even 5.1
[07:40] <calc> i hear rumors it might be due to esound
[07:42] <jrattner1> how do i get ls to list the full path to every file in a directory
[07:42] <jrattner1> ?
[07:42] <crimsun> geneo93: doesn't matter how old it is
[07:43] <ardchoille> BlueEagle: Thank you :)
[07:43] <geneo93> i have another linux partition mounted wonder if it has the same info crimsun
[07:43] <timfrost> jrattner1, ls does not have an option to do that.
[07:43] <crimsun> geneo93: boot into another Linux distro's live cd and pull the lspci -nv info
[07:44] <macri> hello everyone... can  any body tell me/pass me the link  how to configure Creative Live web-cam in ubuntu 5.1
[07:44] <geneo93> ok but i wont be able to connect to internet
[07:44] <timfrost> jrattner1, why do you want that
[07:44] <macri> hello everyone... can  any body tell me/pass me the link  how to configure Creative Live web-cam in ubuntu 5.10
[07:44] <crimsun> calc: if so, strace would say something
[07:44] <calc> yep its esd
[07:44] <calc> i commented it out in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox and it works again
[07:45] <calc> #        FIREFOX_DSP=esddsp
[07:45] <calc> that fixed it
[07:45] <crimsun> calc: ah, most people who want flash support use =none
[07:46] <calc> oh
[07:46] <calc> so does swfdec work on amd64 for flash yet?
[07:46] <macri> anybody configured Creative Live Webcam in Breeze Badger - pls help
[07:46] <calc> http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=347751 <- the related debian bug
[07:47] <calc> now that i have a browser i can see it is fixed ;)
[07:47] <calc> so should be fixed in ubuntu RSN
[07:47] <calc> it was fixed last friday in debian
[07:47] <meng> is there mplayer in the dapper repos?
[07:47] <adub> does anyone in here build wifi antennas?
[07:47] <calc> or maybe not as the followup seems to indicate :\
[07:48] <crimsun> meng: yes
[07:48] <progrock> Is there a GVIM or somethign similar
[07:48] <meng> crimsun: i can't seem to find it
[07:50] <crimsun> meng: do you have multiverse enabled?
[07:50] <meng> crimsun: i did
[07:51] <mark_> anyone know why skype wont start on breezy?
[07:51] <mark_> i have the latest one
[07:52] <jonshea> Does anyone know if there's a pdf viewer than can display a navigable table of contents bar, like OSX Preview does?
[07:52] <mark_> libqt-mt.so.3: cannot open , it wants this... how do i get it
[07:52] <Krelbel> argh
[07:53] <something_else> very strange. my hp nc6000 has blue wireless led, the wireless can be turned off using a button at the top, and upon doing so, the blue led doesnt light, it was working when I installed breezy, but Ive never noticed until now that, the blue led no longer lights
[07:53] <crimsun> install libqt3c102-mt
[07:53] <Krelbel> i need a little help here getting my laptop to see shared folders on my desktop
[07:53] <Krelbel> ;/
[07:53] <Krelbel> i tried mounting the folder
[07:53] <Krelbel> but i opened the folder
[07:53] <Krelbel> and see nothing
[07:53] <crimsun> mark_: err, under Breezy? libqt3-mt
[07:54] <mark_> crimsun, ok, thanks
[07:54] <Krelbel> using /etc/fstab i mean
[07:54] <something_else> so while maintaining the old kernel, I installed linux 2.6.14, and in doing so, it seems Ive somehow damaged automount
[07:54] <something_else> or pmount
[07:54] <Krelbel> can anyone help?
[07:54] <macri> oh  i belive no body present right now have configured creative Live webcam with breezy - it crashes my ubuntu when ever i try to configure :-(
[07:54] <something_else> meaning, the devices mount, but gnome doesnt see it
[07:55] <something_else> or, gnome sees it and ignores it
[07:57] <Krelbel> err
[07:57] <Krelbel> i forgot the mount command
[07:57] <Krelbel> gj krel
[07:57] <mcdenyer> hey can somone hel p me set up my printer on the network so that windows computers can use it?
[07:57] <mark_> crimsun, do you know how to make skype use alsa by chance?
[07:58] <daniele> regex guru wanted: I've a string that appear like this "aaaa#bbbb" where aaaa is a value and bbbb the second one. I want to cut the first value and the separator char. I've tryied "sed -e 's/^*#//g' myfile" but nothing to do. Help me please!
[07:59] <benplaut> Kate is pretty nice, but i feel so dirty using it in gnome :/
[07:59] <something_else> gnome is so retarded sometimes it pisses me off
[07:59] <something_else> ok I dunno where that came from :|
[08:00] <mcdenyer> i have a printer setup and working on my computer but windows computers on the network need to be bale to use it and i need help setting it up for that
[08:00] <something_else> have any of u seen equinox desktop environment?
[08:00] <crimsun> mark_: it can't. You can attempt to make it use alsa via aoss, but that's it.
[08:00] <linux_user400354> can someone try vnc on my computer to see if it is working
[08:00] <something_else> looks like windows, but looks better than both kde and gnome
[08:01] <something_else> it actually looks like something thats designed to be used, rather than a few kids sitting there battling it out to win desktop wars
[08:01] <daniele> mcdenyer, put this in your /etc/printcap  -> myprinter|myprinter:rm=localhost:rp=myprinter:
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> bon, suffisait de fermer le terminal.
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> dtail
[08:01] <benplaut> linux_user400354: that is really, really not a smart thing to ask
[08:01] <B_166-ER-X> nempeche, pas pratique
[08:01] <mark_> crimsun, i just want to have it run through the mixer, so i can have multiole sounds when using skype
[08:01] <mark_> crimsun, maybe aoss will do that
[08:02] <mcdenyer> daniele ok sry second dayu using buntu your going to hacve to type out exactly what i need to type in terminal lol
[08:02] <linux_user400354> benplaut how am i supposed to see if its working then and fix it?
[08:02] <something_else> u try it on urself
[08:02] <benplaut> linux_user400354: VNC into yourself ;)
[08:03] <linux_user400354> yeah but i am trying to find out if my isp is blocking vnc, so if it worked on myself, that wouldnt prove they arent
[08:03] <daniele> mcdenyer, write in console this->        sudo echo "myprinter|myprinter:rm=localhost:rp=myprinter:" >> /etc/printcap         where myprinter is the printname, local and remote
[08:04] <daniele> regex guru wanted: I've a string that appear like this "aaaa#bbbb" where aaaa is a value and bbbb the second one. I want to cut the first value and the separator char. I've tryied "sed -e 's/^*#//g' myfile" but nothing to do. Help me please!
[08:04] <something_else> i feel like killing gnome :|
[08:04] <something_else> :|
[08:04] <benplaut> something_else: i feel like killing KDE -_-
[08:04] <benplaut> for messing up my gnome :P
[08:04] <something_else> i feel like killing kde too
[08:04] <geneo93> crimsun:  ok in hoary live cd
[08:04] <benplaut> something_else: xfce? flux? e? :P
[08:05] <something_else> no they are all rubbish, ede looks good
[08:05] <mark_> crimsun, how do you run it through aoss?
[08:05] <something_else> unfortunately its all source
[08:05] <timfrost> daniele, the regex should be 's/^.*#//' (. = any character)
[08:05] <something_else> and if I had to revert to source, Id be using slackware again
[08:06] <mcdenyer> daniele, ok like this ? mcdenyer@MarksBox:~$  sudo echo "PSC-2110|PSC-2110:rm=localhost:rp=PSC-2110:" >> /etc/printcap
[08:06] <daniele> timfrost, ahh! thank you very much.. :)
[08:06] <daniele> mcdenyer, try this ok
[08:06] <crimsun> geneo93: and the output from lspci -nv ?
[08:06] <something_else> ok heres a question, what section of ubuntu connects buttons to leds
[08:06] <crimsun> mark_: aoss skype
[08:06] <geneo93> crimsun:  here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7246
[08:07] <mark_> crimsun, i have alsa-oss... and aoss skype trys but doesnt do anything... and it gives no errors :(
[08:07] <GeorgeAScott> can i change the icon display name of hdb1
[08:08] <moodog> Morning all.
[08:08] <benplaut> something_else: try IceWM, and download Puppy Linux... see if you like either of the WM/DE included on there
[08:08] <crimsun> mark_: that's your empirical evidence that it fails.
[08:08] <something_else> ive tried IceWM, didnt like it at all
[08:08] <crimsun> geneo93: so use that page that I gave you earlier.
[08:08] <benplaut> something_else: also, see if you like some minimal WM plus PerlPanel... it's an awesome panel
[08:09] <something_else> ok Ill have a look
[08:09] <geneo93> i dont have it anymore
[08:09] <something_else> problem is none of these panels are properly customizable
[08:09] <Hikaru79> Is it possible to get an English thesaurus for OpenOffice 2? When I try to install the thesaurus package, it wants to remove OOo2.0, because the package is for 1.0. Any solution?
[08:10] <theneonshadow> how do i open a movie file with wine, i already have divx installed
[08:10] <something_else> wine or xine?
[08:10] <meng> is it possible to put breezy repos into dapper?
[08:10] <theneonshadow> better yet how how do i open divx with wine
[08:10] <theneonshadow> its wine
[08:10] <mark_> crimsun, ok.. then where is it :)
[08:10] <deFrysk> theneonshadow, why not with xine?
[08:10] <mcdenyer> daniele, try what ?
[08:10] <something_else> well u do  "wine /path/to/divx.exe"
[08:10] <mark_> crimsun, btw, thanks for your help.. you have been most helpful so far :)
[08:10] <theneonshadow> defrysk: because i have wine
[08:11] <theneonshadow> i tried that
[08:11] <deFrysk> theneonshadow, why use wine when you do not need it ?
[08:11] <something_else> what happened to vlc, it used to look decent
[08:11] <something_else> the only media player I was satisfied with
[08:11] <something_else> and now its back to the horrible gtk1
[08:11] <kestasworkacc> how do I bring something back to the screen after I ctrl-Z it?
[08:11] <something_else> theneon, and what happened after u tried that?
[08:12] <sanchos> anyone know what package xorgcfg is in?
[08:12] <kestasworkacc> when I say screen I mean shell
[08:12] <sanchos> cos I need to redo my xorg.conf
[08:12] <kestasworkacc> and when I say ctrl-Z I mean suspend
[08:12] <gavcos> kestasworkacc, type fg
[08:12] <kestasworkacc> gavcos: thanks
[08:12] <sanchos> 1280x960@60 hz blows
[08:12] <something_else> fg
[08:12] <sanchos> can anyone help me?
[08:12] <sanchos> I suck.
[08:12] <kestasworkacc> gavcos: btw if I suspend an irssi will it screw up?
[08:12] <mcdenyer> hey can somone help me get my printer to be seen by other computers on the network which are using windows?
[08:12] <something_else> well if u suck, no one can help u
[08:12] <something_else> :|
[08:12] <deFrysk> lol
[08:13] <timfrost> mcdenyer,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP may help
[08:13] <theneonshadow> defrysk: i dont need it?
[08:13] <something_else> that should go into bash.org, so I can finally say "I  made it"
[08:13] <something_else> :|
[08:13] <deFrysk> theneonshadow, for playing movies ? nope
[08:13] <mcdenyer> timfrost, k ty
[08:13] <gavcos> kestasworkacc, no, should be fine
[08:13] <something_else> u can play it with xine
[08:13] <something_else> u can play almost everything with xine
[08:13] <something_else> or if not xine mplayer
[08:13] <deFrysk> if not mplayer even totem-xine
[08:14] <theneonshadow> defrysk: for playing wmv's
[08:14] <something_else> whats the diff b/w totem-xine and xine
[08:14] <something_else> yes neon, for playing wmvs
[08:14] <deFrysk> !tell theneonshadow about w32codecs
[08:14] <something_else> w32codecs contains all of the win 32 codecs
[08:14] <something_else> :|
[08:14] <something_else> there
[08:14] <meng> there's little packages in the dapper multiverse repos
[08:15] <blackvd> how do i kill x to install my vid drivers?
[08:15] <crimsun> mark_: eh? You just experienced it firsthand.
[08:15] <benplaut> blackvd: ctrl+alt+backspace
[08:15] <benplaut> SAVE FIRST
[08:15] <deFrysk> theneonshadow, read ubotu's message
[08:15] <blackvd> that just restarts x
[08:15] <theneonshadow> yeah i did all that before
[08:15] <theneonshadow> it didnt work
[08:15] <something_else> blackvd, well ctrl + alt + f1, login and kill gdm
[08:16] <crimsun> geneo93: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[08:16] <benplaut> ^^
[08:16] <mark_> crimsun, skype doesnt start up
[08:16] <blackvd> ah ok
[08:16] <mark_> crimsun, when using aoss /usr/bin/skype
[08:16] <crimsun> mark_: just use it without aoss
[08:16] <deFrysk> theneonshadow, tried mplayer ?
[08:16] <crimsun> mark_: you /can't/ dmix it
[08:16] <theneonshadow> ill do it again
[08:16] <something_else> why gtk1? its as ugly as .... :|
[08:16] <mark_> crimsun, so your telling me when i have skype running i cant listen to music?
[08:17] <crimsun> mark_: precisely
[08:17] <crimsun> mark_: unless you have multiple sound cards, that is
[08:17] <mark_> crimsun, damn skype developers need to switch to alsa! :P
[08:17] <mark_> crimsun, hmm... theres an idea
[08:17] <benplaut> something_else: are you looking for a panel as configurable as gnome-panel, but without the gnome-lib connections and heavy-weight?
[08:17] <something_else> benplaut, more configurable then gnome-panel
[08:17] <meng> anyone here had time with dapper?
[08:18] <benplaut> something_else: good luck...
[08:18] <something_else> I know, they dont exist
[08:18] <benplaut> ^^
[08:18] <something_else> benplaut thanks ... lol
[08:18] <benplaut> kicker comes close, but not enough...
[08:18] <something_else> its just none of this looks good, it all looks so depressing
[08:18] <benplaut> something_else: i've been searching for that majic panel for month
[08:18] <benplaut> s
[08:18] <benplaut> *months
[08:19] <something_else> benplaut, its coz developers are reluctant to listen to users :|
[08:19] <benplaut> gnome-panel and kicker tied for first, with Perlpanel in second
[08:19] <benplaut> something_else: you figured this out when?
[08:19] <something_else> a long long time ago
[08:19] <meng> is there a list of working dapper multiverse repos?
[08:19] <something_else> I just felt like mentioning it
[08:19] <daniele> yesterday I heard "eggcups".. what is this?
[08:20] <something_else> so there are people here, who if they have the money, should use windows
[08:20] <benplaut> something_else: have you found the majik text editor yet?
[08:20] <meng>  is there a list of working dapper multiverse repos?
[08:20] <theneonshadow> it wont work
[08:20] <something_else> ben, yup I have
[08:20] <something_else> text editor section fine
[08:20] <benplaut> and it is...
[08:20] <something_else> multimedia was fine, till vlc went back to gtk1
[08:20] <something_else> benplaut, pico works fine
[08:20] <something_else> :D
[08:21] <benplaut> -_-
[08:21] <benplaut> i pretty much want Kate w/ GTK
[08:21] <deFrysk> Gate
[08:21] <something_else> get the kate source and port it
[08:21] <benplaut> or Scite plus more config options
[08:21] <benplaut> you don't understand... i need a text editor to learn how to do that stuff!! >:D
[08:22] <something_else> if I had the energy Id take gnome sources and fix the bloody issues
[08:22] <benplaut> if i had the skill, i would -_-
[08:22] <something_else> benplaut, no, eclipse is for that
[08:22] <something_else> lol
[08:22] <deFrysk> benplaut, emacs ? :>
[08:22] <something_else> oh please, dont mention emacs
[08:22] <benplaut> deFrysk: scary ? :>
[08:22] <something_else> emacs is not quick development
[08:23] <blackvd> ok i killed all things x but when i try to install my drivers i get x is still running
[08:23] <something_else> dreams of visual studio for linux
[08:23] <something_else> or an ide that does all, eclipse is top notch, but no C#, asp, visual shit
[08:23] <geneo93> ok back to dapper
[08:24] <something_else> dapper?
[08:24] <geneo93> crimsun:  you have that url handy
[08:24] <deFrysk> drake
[08:24] <shannon> so i got a question...my laptop speakers don't emit sound and i don't anything is muted
[08:24] <something_else> i thought dapper is the new ...
[08:24] <benplaut> eclipse seems a bit extreme for a bit of bash scripting :P
[08:24] <something_else> benplaut, I suppose ...
[08:24] <mcdenyer> timfrost, hey
[08:24] <mcdenyer> timfrost, igto a q
[08:25] <crimsun> geneo93: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToConfigureSoundBlasterAudigySEinBreezy
[08:25] <something_else> but then again, why not?
[08:25] <benplaut> to hell with this
[08:25] <timfrost> yes, mcdenyer what is it?
[08:25] <mcdenyer> timfrost, where is has me put in 192.168.0.* do i actually put int the astrik or what?
[08:25] <something_else> we should actively work on eclipse plugins
[08:25] <geneo93> crimsun:  thanks
[08:25] <mcdenyer> timfrost,  where it*
[08:28] <something_else> I created a list of problems when I first began using linux over 2 years ago
[08:28] <something_else> only about 10 % have been fixed
[08:28] <something_else> :|
[08:28] <benplaut> bug-report till you drop
[08:29] <something_else> one of the problems were bug-reporting tools
[08:29] <something_else> haha
[08:29] <timfrost> mcdenyer, The alow from shoul look similar to 'Allow from 192.168.13.0/24', (I am using 192.168.13.x addresses). Replace 192.168.0 or 192.168.13 with your network address.
[08:30] <benplaut> great -_-
[08:30] <benplaut> btw, are there any tools out there to use GTK to draw Qt widgets? the other way around exists, but not the way i want -_-
[08:31] <sini> hello
[08:31] <agent_bob> is it possable to boot from the install cd to an installed ubuntu ?
[08:31] <mcdenyer> timfrost, well we are runnign a big network with dhcp so the last number changes
[08:31] <sini> i extracted a file on my remote server, and how do i access it now to run ./config
[08:31] <something_else> ati dont get any closer with their drivers, they never will
[08:31] <something_else> isnt metatheme for that?
[08:31] <something_else> a uniform look
[08:31] <something_else> I dont know how far theyve gone, but it looked good last time
[08:31] <mcdenyer> timfrost, do i put in the number of our router 192.168.0.1?
[08:32] <sini> my shell is sayin -jailshell-2.05b$
[08:32] <heng> 
[08:32] <something_else> agent_bob how would that work? u boot from cd, u get an o/s, u could mount the installed o/s
[08:32] <heng> anyone who can say chinese?
[08:32] <sini> heng bang seng yeng?
[08:33] <heng> sini?
[08:33] <sini> i no a lil
[08:33] <crimsun> heng: #ubuntu-zh
[08:33] <timfrost> mcdenyer, what is the network mask?  Use 192.168.0.0/x where x = number of bits in the network mask
[08:33] <heng> crimsun?
[08:33] <something_else> i can say chinese
[08:33] <something_else> lol
[08:33] <something_else> heng, u want the proper chinese version?
[08:33] <agent_bob> something_else so short answer = no
[08:34] <something_else> exactly
[08:34] <heng> yes, chinese room
[08:34] <mcdenyer> timfrost, well our dchp ranges from 100-150
[08:34] <something_else> heng, tap sum bong
[08:34] <sini> i extracted a file on my remote server, and how do i access it now to run ./config if my shell is still sayin  "-jailshell-2.05b$" and cd /unreal3.2 (thats the folder) doesnt work???
[08:35] <crimsun> something_else: don't be inane.
[08:35] <something_else> somethings seriously dodgey, dapper supports dvb-t?
[08:35] <sini> lol something_else
[08:35] <timfrost> mcdenyer, in that case, use 192.168.0.0/24 (the /24 specifies a mask of 255.255.255.0)
[08:35] <something_else> lol crimsun, im in effed up mood
[08:35] <agent_bob> so installing ubuntu is not possable on my system without wiping out some data that i am not going to wipe out.....   so i can't use ubuntu even though i have it installed.
[08:35] <sampan> heng, zhongwen de ubuntu zai #ubuntu-zh
[08:36] <something_else> if u have it installed, why cant u use it?
[08:36] <agent_bob> it failed to install a boot loader.
[08:36] <something_else> so use the cd to install the bootloader
[08:36] <agent_bob> ?
[08:36] <something_else> skip all the installation sections and striaght to bootloader
[08:36] <mcdenyer> timfrost, well thats not our mask
[08:36] <something_else> using your original disk
[08:36] <firewave> ?
[08:37] <heng> sampan ? :)
[08:37] <agent_bob> lol
[08:37] <agent_bob> it wont work
[08:37] <something_else> why not?
[08:37] <mcdenyer> timfrost, i know that every pc on our network will either be 192.168.0.100-150
[08:37] <something_else> dont let it install
[08:38] <heng> sampan, how can join #ubuntu-zh?
[08:38] <something_else> by that I mean, theres a way to get directly to install grub
[08:38] <linux_user400354> has anyone got skype to work? i installed it yesterday and it worked. today it doesnt.
[08:38] <sampan> heng, type: /join #ubuntu-zh
[08:38] <agent_bob> it didn't install a boot loader on the system... i have ubuntu running but grub is not installed.  i don't mean just not in the MBR  i mean it didn't install it.
[08:38] <thyrc>  /join #ubuntu-zh
[08:38] <timfrost> mcdenyer, what netmask is used for the PCs?
[08:39] <heng> thankyou!
[08:39] <sampan> heng, mei shi!  yinggai de.
[08:39] <sini> i extracted a file on my remote server, and how do i access it now to run ./config if my shell is still sayin  "-jailshell-2.05b$" and cd /unreal3.2 (thats the folder) doesnt work???
[08:39] <something_else> theres gotta be a way ...
[08:39] <agent_bob> as in grub<tab> <tab>  nothing is there....
[08:39] <sini> help please
[08:39] <mcdenyer> timfrost, 255.255.0.0
[08:39] <heng> sampan,haha,na bian dou mei you ren a
[08:39] <something_else> are u sure it didnt install grub or that it didnt install into mbr
[08:40] <agent_bob> lol  very
[08:40] <something_else> have u mounted the filesystem to check?
[08:40] <ilba7r> clear
[08:40] <agent_bob> something_else i just said it is running.....
[08:40] <linux_user400354> i converted the fc3 rpm for skype into a deb and installed it, but i dont have any sound. did anyone have this problem?
[08:41] <sampan> heng, :(  hahahaha wo mei qu guo #ubuntu-zh (wo de guanyu diannao de zhongwen bu shi na me hao), danshi wo tingguo na shi zhongwen de channel.  dui bu qi!
[08:41] <agent_bob> but with a 2.4 kernel that i used to boot it from windows command prompt with loadlin.
[08:41] <something_else> agent_bob, what is running?
[08:41] <agent_bob> ubuntu
[08:41] <agent_bob> if you would read my posts....
[08:41] <timfrost> mcdenyer, that maps to /16 (the number after the '/' is the number of consecutive 1-bits in the netmask).
[08:42] <heng> sampan, ni shi lai zi na li de ne?
[08:42] <mcdenyer> timfrost, ok thanks for the help
[08:42] <Myrtti> could you please use English
[08:43] <heng> oh
[08:43] <something_else> but grub must be recognised by ubuntu, doesnt it?
[08:43] <something_else> oh wait no ...
[08:43] <sampan> myrtti, yes of course ... i sent him to a channel for chinese help but there was no one there and i apologized for sending him on a wild goose chase. that's all.
[08:43] <agent_bob> can not use loadlin to boot the ubuntu kernel because the initrd is over 4m  loadlin can't handle over 4m   so i used a 2.4 kernel and booted into ubuntu to try to fix this but there is no grub*  or lilo  command  they are not installed.
[08:44] <Myrtti> mmmkay, I always use English to direct Finns to use the Finnish channel, if I do it publicly here
[08:44] <Myrtti> but nevermind
[08:44] <Myrtti> I'm off to get some more coffee
[08:44] <something_else> so if u can use a 2.4 kernel to get into ubuntu, cant u install grub at that point?
[08:44] <agent_bob> how?
[08:45] <agent_bob> something_else  ?
[08:45] <something_else> well grub is installed as a package
[08:45] <agent_bob> no it is not   damnit !
[08:45] <something_else> Unpacking grub (from .../grub_0.95+cvs20040624-17ubuntu7_i386.deb) ...
[08:45] <agent_bob> it is not installed.
[08:46] <something_else> and thats from /var/log/installer/messages
[08:46] <kestasworkacc> what version of ubuntu are you running which uses a 2.4 kernel and doesnt have grub?
[08:46] <sampan> myrtti, and i tried english first (crimsun too) -- so i resorted to chinese.  perhaps finns are far more familiar with english as a second language than most chinese.  :)
[08:46] <xenon_> Can anyone help with a rausb0 question?
[08:46] <kestasworkacc> I thought they all used 2.6 and had grup
[08:46] <something_else> so yes, grub is installed as a package
[08:46] <Myrtti> mmmmm vanilla... sampan yes :-)
[08:47] <agent_bob> ok something_else you have proved to me that you do not listen nor know what the hell you are talking about so you go on the ignore list.
[08:47] <jariep1_> what do i need to do for mysql to show up in phpinfo?
[08:47] <something_else> lol ok then mate
[08:47] <something_else> I remember on slackware doing this :)
[08:48] <mwright1night> Hi all,
[08:48] <mwright1night> I am downloading the new test of ubuntu
[08:48] <SpaceMonkey> Anyone can spare a minute for newbie linux question?
[08:48] <mwright1night> is there anthing exciting I should expect
[08:48] <Myrtti> !anyone
[08:48] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[08:48] <mwright1night> is it evo 2.4
[08:48] <jariep1_> i have a question
[08:49] <johny_> try it...
[08:49] <agent_bob> SpaceMonkey ask it
[08:49] <mwright1night> uboto: it's a normal conversational pattern
[08:49] <mwright1night> to do that
[08:49] <samu2> does anyone know which openoffice1 packages are safe to remove after an upgrade to breezy?
[08:49] <Myrtti> mwright1night: you can expect that you are assumed to be capable of fixing exciting errors on your own
[08:49] <SpaceMonkey> I've been fooling around with ubuntu and want to install it but am having technical dificulties
[08:49] <Myrtti> mwright1night: he's a bot and been programmed to say that
[08:49] <jariep1_> if I can access mysql through phpmyadmin, does this mean that php-mysql is working even though it doesn't show up in phpinfo?
[08:49] <mwright1night> Myrtti: I usually get help
[08:49] <mwright1night> Myrtti well the programmer is a deckhead
[08:50] <Myrtti> mwright1night: if you're downloading dapper?
[08:50] <Myrtti> !dapper
[08:50] <mwright1night> to excuse a kiwi phrase
[08:50] <sini> help please
[08:50] <agent_bob> SpaceMonkey that's a fine warm up but when are you going to ask a question ?
[08:50] <something_else> lol
[08:50] <mwright1night> i know all about test versions etc
[08:50] <Myrtti> ubotu: tell mwright1night about dapper
[08:50] <mwright1night> have been doing this for more than 10 years
[08:50] <Myrtti> great
[08:50] <sini> i extracted a file on my remote server, and how do i access it now to run ./config if my shell is still sayin  "-jailshell-2.05b$" and cd /unreal3.2 (thats the folder) doesnt work???
[08:50] <SpaceMonkey> hehe well I can't seem to figureout how to reconfigure harddrive partition
[08:50] <Myrtti> well, I heard wifi isn't working perfectly atm
[08:51] <mwright1night> am just going to test the live iso and I am also needing to setup an asterisk server tonight
[08:51] <hunterp> im getting unmet dependencies on apt-get on two different packages
[08:51] <mwright1night> so won't have mmuch time to test
[08:51] <xenon_> oh wifi is fun with breezy
[08:51] <mwright1night> Myrtiti: Just using it in a vmware box
[08:51] <mwright1night> so no wifi is fine
[08:51] <something_else> xenon, no its not :|
[08:51] <heng> Myrtti is master of this room?
[08:51] <agent_bob> you slect the thing in the menu that you want to affect and hit enter, SpaceMonkey
[08:51] <Myrtti> heck no
[08:51] <something_else> heng, no, I am
[08:52] <sampan> pffffffft ubotu is
[08:52] <heng> sorry:)haha
[08:52] <crimsun> something_else: quit it.
[08:52] <something_else> or if you are bad tempered then agent_bob is
[08:52] <something_else> lol crimsun
[08:52] <something_else> ok fine
[08:52] <xenon_> something: you wouldn't have had a problem with a Belkin wireless card, would you?
[08:52] <mwright1night> I am trying to weigh up whether to take my RH / Fedora desktop (LTSP/NX) site to ubuntu or to FC5
[08:52] <mwright1night> That's why I'm keen to test out both as mcuh as possilbe
[08:52] <something_else> xenon, no Ive been quite fortunate to have a card that works
[08:52] <mwright1night> I like the idea of moving to ubuntu eventually
[08:52] <adriyel_sleepiez> g'night all
[08:53] <mwright1night> the previous version almost stacked up against FC4
[08:53] <ubuntutestrun> hi there
[08:53] <mwright1night> I suspect this next version will be the one to move
[08:53] <SpaceMonkey> how do I partition and format drive for ubuntu install?
[08:53] <agent_bob> hey crimsun any way to use the install cd to boot an installed system ?
[08:53] <xenon_> ahh, I'm here with one that doesn't :/
[08:53] <ubuntutestrun> i thought that ubuntu was easy, but not when it comes to multi media ( dvd )
[08:53] <timfrost> sini, does 'cd unreal3.2' work (no leading '/'?  If so, you are there.  Otherwise, you are i a restricted shell, and need to get the admin to permit you to install the packages
[08:54] <crimsun> agent_bob: yes, if you have 2.6.12-9-386 installed on the HD
[08:54] <ubuntutestrun> so wich repository would make me happy?
[08:54] <sini> no no i fixed all that up
[08:54] <sini> i got access
[08:54] <sini> i just cant move to that folder
[08:54] <sini> :(
[08:54] <sini> dumb
[08:54] <crimsun> agent_bob: pass the correct root= parameter to the boot command line
[08:54] <sini> keeps sayin no such file
[08:55] <sini> or directory
[08:55] <agent_bob> SpaceMonkey the installer will walk you through it when the time comes,  the partitioning tool will ask things like    repartition whole disk   or   manuel partitioning    you highlight the one you want and hit enter.
[08:55] <sini> only /home works without error
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> wich repository do you add to get some dvd playback functionality on breezy badger?
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> 5.10.
[08:55] <GeorgeAScott> does the new ubuntu support the invidia drivers from 5.0.4
[08:55] <SpaceMonkey> hmmm I don't have an install cd. Just live cd
[08:56] <agent_bob> crimsun that was my first assumption but it still starts the installer rather than init
[08:56] <agent_bob> kinda    don't work....
[08:56] <sini> jailshell-2.05b$ cd Unreal3.2
[08:56] <sini> -jailshell: cd: Unreal3.2: No such file or directory
[08:56] <crimsun> agent_bob: you can still pass init=/bin/sh
[08:56] <sini> timfrost
[08:57] <revdev> sini: if you do an ls, does the Unreal3.2 directory show up?
[08:57] <sini> yes
[08:57] <agent_bob> checking that now....
[08:57] <sini> its there
[08:57] <geneo93> crimsun:  its about 50% built
[08:57] <SpaceMonkey> is there a way to install from live cd?
[08:57] <tyler> anyone here kows how to repair a brother mfc with the dreaded error 41???
[08:57] <sini> drwxr-xr-x  12 cars2env cars2env    4096 Jan 17 18:27 Unreal3.2
[08:57] <sini> -rw-r--r--   1 cars2env cars2env 1283275 Jan 17 18:24 Unreal3.2-beta19.tar.gz
[08:58] <timfrost> sini, you need to do 'cd  Unreal3.2'.  Linux is case-sensitive
[08:58] <agent_bob> crimsun kernel panic on that.... the kernel has no filesystem drivers...
[08:58] <ejofee> how do i delete 58 news from a rss feed in liferea?
[08:59] <sini> yea i did timfrost
[08:59] <crimsun> agent_bob: what do you need to do?
[08:59] <sini> still nothing
[08:59] <sini> its a pain
[08:59] <sini> grrrrrrrr
[08:59] <agent_bob> hehhe crimsun install a boot loader
[09:00] <sini> any other ideas
[09:00] <agent_bob> it errored out because i didn't let it format the partition, it installed the base system ok  but when it got  to grub   no sir.
[09:00] <sini> dunno if u know, but tis folder is on the remote server timfrost
[09:01] <agent_bob> i tried lilo and grub but it balked on both
[09:01] <sini> working with ssh
[09:01] <sini> shouldnt b ne different
[09:01] <revdev> sini: what exactly does it say when you try to cd?
[09:01] <sini> jailshell-2.05b$ cd Unreal3.2
[09:01] <sini> -jailshell: cd: Unreal3.2: No such file or directory
[09:02] <ilba7r> anyone know if the acpi -t command will return the motherboard or cpu temp
[09:03] <revdev> sorry, sini. i'm out of ideas.
[09:03] <crimsun> agent_bob: try the Dapper Flight 3 install cd
[09:03] <crimsun> agent_bob: at the boot prompt, you can enter "rescue"
[09:03] <agent_bob> crimsun no can do, dialup
[09:04] <ejofee> how do i delete 43 news from a rss feed in liferea?
[09:04] <geneo93> crimsun:  i used the iso from jan 12th
[09:04] <crimsun> agent_bob: http://adrian15.raulete.net/grub/tiki-index.php?page=En
[09:04] <geneo93> any before then didnt work
[09:05] <crimsun> geneo93: it should work with Flight 3, then
[09:05] <geneo93> yes it should
[09:05] <crimsun> geneo93: it just means you needed to upgrade both alsa-driver and alsa-lib and not just alsa-driver
[09:06] <javad> hi do you know how can I install XMMS on ubuntu 5.10
[09:06] <mchasard> hi i just run the new dapper live flight 3
[09:06] <geneo93> crimsun:  i thought alsa was in kernel
[09:06] <crimsun> geneo93: alsa-driver is
[09:06] <timfrost> sini, unless there is a non-printable character in the directory name, I have no ideas either.  To check that, look for escape characters in  'ls -lb'
[09:07] <revdev> javad: sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:07] <mchasard> dhcp is not running at beginning
[09:07] <geneo93> i have the newest kernel 2.6.15-12.17
[09:07] <mchasard> i had to make it run
[09:07] <sagar> evolution keeps crashign whenever i use the calendar!! this happened, and i had some problems so i had to reformat a few times and it did that every time!
[09:07] <crimsun> geneo93: rather, more precisely, the component of ALSA that is in-kernel is referred to (interchangably) as alsa-kernel (or alsa-driver)
[09:07] <sini> timfrost: jailshell-2.05b$ ls -lb
[09:07] <sini> total 4
[09:07] <sini> drwx--x--x  16 cars2env cars2env 4096 Jan 17 18:24 cars2env
[09:07] <mchasard> strange
[09:08] <crimsun> geneo93: ALSA also has two userspace components - the library and the utilities
[09:08] <geneo93> but wouldn't dapper have the latest libs
[09:09] <sini> is that it?
[09:09] <geneo93> i never had a problem with breezy thats why i ask
[09:09] <timfrost> sini, you aren't in  the directory where you extracted Unreal3.2 to.  What directory were you i when you ran the tar extract?
[09:09] <sini> same one
[09:09] <sini> i haven left it
[09:10] <mchasard> the irc gnome is new ?
[09:10] <sini> i checked with ftp
[09:10] <geneo93> crimsun:  still the same thing Loading ALSA sound driver modules: (none to reload)
[09:10] <sini> its in the same directory
[09:10] <sini> im still in this jailshell
[09:11] <crimsun> geneo93: for which?
[09:11] <geneo93> thats the message i got when the driver was done building
[09:11] <sini> its gotta b sumthing really simple
[09:11] <sagar> why woudl evolution crash when i'm trying to use the calendar
[09:11] <crimsun> geneo93: which did you build?
[09:12] <geneo93> snd-emu10k1
[09:12] <burbz> anybody thats got java installed (JDK) on their ubuntu, and is able to compile via terminal using the 'javac' command?
[09:12] <geneo93> same one mandriva uses
[09:12] <revdev> i have, burbz.
[09:13] <purpleheart_USMC> Sweet!  I just booted the new daily build Live CD and I LOVE it!
[09:13] <crimsun> geneo93: erm...your pci id matches the ca0106 one, not the emu10k1 one
[09:13] <burbz> revdev: i cant get the 'javac' command to compile my file, it doest know where the java is and/or dont know where the class files are
[09:13] <eliasz> so, what advantages do i get iwth ubuntu over any other distro? what makes it the top distro on distro watch?
[09:13] <geneo93> hmmm
[09:13] <agent_bob> i have an idea.   i can mount the partition  copy the grub package to it then chroot install it  maybe ?
[09:13] <mchasard> is opera available in apt -get ... ?
[09:13] <timfrost> sini, try doing just 'cd'.  Then do ls.  I suspect that somehow you have managed to change directories without realising
[09:13] <geneo93> ok leme try that then
[09:13] <burbz> mchasard: just type apt-get install opera
[09:14] <Linwinmac> is there a program to fine tune contrast etc like windows?
[09:14] <Linwinmac> for ubuntu
[09:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> whats a daily build pf a live cd?
[09:14] <crimsun> geneo93: did you build 1.0.10 or 1.0.11rc2?
[09:14] <revdev> burbz: are you sure that you installed the jdk properly? i used automatix.
[09:14] <geneo93> 1.0.10-3
[09:14] <s_spiff{AWAY}> burbz, i don think opera is there in the reop's..unlerss u add it separately
[09:14] <pmallapp> hi all
[09:14] <pmallapp> anybody has mplayer compiled statically (32-bit) i need it to run on a amd64 since w32codecs doesn't work on 64-bit arch and i dont want to do a chroot
[09:14] <crimsun> geneo93: you need 1.0.10+1.0.11rc2
[09:14] <purpleheart_USMC> s_spiff{AWAY}: its the newest build of ubuntu in a live cd
[09:14] <mchasard> no way to find opera package
[09:15] <burbz> revdev: i made my own .deb package, made from a tar.gz file, and installed it
[09:15] <gavcos> sagar, i have the same problem with evolution
[09:15] <s_spiff{AWAY}> purpleheart_USMC, u mean dapper drake?
[09:15] <mchasard> perhpas it doesn't work as a live cd use ?
[09:15] <purpleheart_USMC> s_spiff{AWAY}: yep
[09:15] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok
[09:15] <Linwinmac> can somebody please provide me with a link to the restricted formats wiki?
[09:15] <GenneX> morning everyone
[09:15] <timfrost> !restricted
[09:15] <ubotu> from memory, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[09:15] <purpleheart_USMC> s_spiff{AWAY}: dapper drake release #2 came out today
[09:15] <sini> timfrost u were rite
[09:16] <geneo93> crimsun:  the other kernel sound works but has wrong mixer uses bt878
[09:16] <Linwinmac> how to play mp3s?
[09:16] <sini> jailshell-2.05b$ cd
[09:16] <sini> -jailshell-2.05b$ ls
[09:16] <sini> Unreal3.2  Unreal3.2-beta19.tar.gz  config.php  etc  fantastico_backups  mail  public_ftp  public_html  tmp  www
[09:16] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok
[09:16] <revdev> mchasard: add deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free to your sources.list
[09:16] <crimsun> sini: please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org for pastes
[09:16] <sagar> gavcos: when i start as another user, it works fine =\
[09:16] <sini> but still i cant get in it
[09:16] <s_spiff{AWAY}> will check it out
[09:16] <GenneX> is there anyone here who would be able to help me to get a windows application running on Ubuntu using wine ?
[09:16] <sini> sorry crimsun
[09:16] <ulinskie> has anyone here requested a conference pack from ubuntu?
[09:17] <mchasard> where is the file to add this sources ?
[09:18] <mchasard> i don't remember
[09:18] <s_spiff{AWAY}> purpleheart_USMC, link to dapper drake???
[09:19] <burbz> anybody thats got java installed (JDK) on their ubuntu, and is able to compile via terminal using the 'javac' command? i've installed jdk from a .deb package i made myself from the tar.gz source file..
[09:19] <ubuntutestrun> GenneX, wich program?
[09:19] <timfrost> sini, OK.  You should be able to cd to the Unreal3.2 directory, and run configure.  But do you know that all the required packages and libraries are available to build it?  If you don't administer the server, there may be required files/packages that aren't there.
[09:19] <sini> it worked timfrost
[09:19] <sini> ur a legend
[09:19] <revdev> mchasard: close synaptic or whatever package manager you use, at a terminal, type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list ... add the line i gave you to the end. save it, and then open synaptic
[09:20] <sini> it should b sweet now
[09:20] <revdev> mchasard: then search for opera and you should see it
[09:20] <sini> i told the host i need a full access
[09:20] <mchasard> sources.list not found
[09:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> mchasard, if u're still confused... go to the wiki... search Opera Installation..
[09:21] <mchasard> hum in live cd use its possible or not ?
[09:21] <s_spiff{AWAY}> any one got a link for DD release??
[09:21] <revdev> burbz: is javac in your /usr/bin directory?
[09:23] <purpleheart_USMC> s_spiff{AWAY}: i'll pm you one
[09:23] <s_spiff{AWAY}> purpleheart_USMC, wher can ii get the live cd for dappr?
[09:23] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ok
[09:24] <s_spiff{AWAY}> don pm
[09:24] <s_spiff{AWAY}> here is fine..
[09:24] <mchasard> gedit seems not work i'm in nano to update the sources list
[09:24] <mchasard> how to save ?
[09:24] <RvGaTe> Hello
[09:25] <Sevensins> hello from germany
[09:25] <purpleheart_USMC> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/cdimage/releases/dapper/flight-3/
[09:25] <RvGaTe> I have some questions regarding ubuntu, im just wondering if its suitable for me...
[09:25] <purpleheart_USMC> Sevensins: Gutenabend
[09:25] <mchasard> please
[09:25] <burbz> anybody thats got java installed (JDK) on their ubuntu, and is able to compile via terminal using the 'javac' command? i've installed jdk from a .deb package i made myself from the tar.gz source file..
[09:25] <Sevensins> may someone of you help me with a problem with sound-juicer
[09:26] <Sevensins> purpleheart gutenmorgen
[09:26] <timfrost> mchasard, nano uses CTRL-O to write, CTRL-X to exit (should show atthe bottom of the screen)
[09:26] <revdev> burbz: is javac in your /usr/bin directory?
[09:26] <purpleheart_USMC> Sevensins: Ich bin aus United States
[09:26] <burbz> revdev: yes, java, javac, javap and so on, is located in /usr/bin/
[09:26] <mchasard> ok thanks
[09:27] <topyli> burbz: that's not a question. i guess many people are able to compile java apps. what kind of error message do you get?
[09:27] <Sevensins> sound juicer of rythmbox takes hours and hours to rip a cd to hdd
[09:27] <Sevensins> und ich von duitsland
[09:27] <liable> !de
[09:27] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[09:27] <jack-> sevensins
[09:27] <jack-> just use abcde for ripping
[09:28] <burbz> topyli: i get this error
[09:28] <burbz> javac: invalid flag: Kunde
[09:28] <burbz> Usage: javac <options> <source files>
[09:28] <jack-> or cdda2wav if you know how to do it yourself
[09:28] <burbz> topyli: its should just compile it without any flags
[09:28] <s_spiff{AWAY}> purpleheart_USMC, thanks
[09:28] <Sevensins> i already set all hdparms  to on but it still rips @ 1x
[09:28] <burbz> *it
[09:28] <sagar> what does "core dumps mean"
[09:28] <purpleheart_USMC> s_spiff{AWAY}: np
[09:28] <topyli> burbz: hrm
[09:28] <Sevensins> thx jack abc is what and in wich repo?
[09:29] <RvGaTe> Im used at debian, never worked with a gui before (and never will if i had to choose), but i need to install a distribution for some company, and it needs to act as a server. Im wondering if every (common) package comes with a setup tool that can be used in the gui. Its not for me personal, but more for the people that dont want to use the command line. The most importend are samba, vpn, apache/php, mysql. Anyone?
[09:29] <topyli> sagar: after a crash, linux dumps the contents of RAM onto the disk so you can debug
[09:29] <mebaran151> I need to install a rubygem
[09:29] <revdev> burbz: what is the exact command that you're typing in?
[09:29] <mebaran151> how do I get the rubygems package
[09:29] <sagar> topyli, er, how would i access that?
[09:29] <mebaran151> synaptic doesn't have it anymore
[09:29] <burbz> revdev: javac File
[09:29] <revdev> try javac File.java
[09:30] <revdev> but first make sure to rename the file to File.java
[09:30] <burbz> i need the extention
[09:30] <burbz> hmm
[09:30] <agent_bob> hmmm ok on the install cd what package is the kernel   (binarry only prefered)  ?
[09:30] <topyli> sagar: the dump? dunno, i never tried because i wouldn't understand it anyway. i think it would be some sort of binary blurb
[09:30] <sagar> oh :P
[09:30] <agent_bob> it didn't install a kernel so i need to do that also.
[09:30] <Sevensins> okay anyway im @ work so i think ill leave for now and go to the geraman chat later this evening
[09:30] <Sevensins> nice to be back
[09:31] <burbz> revdev: ahh, that did the trick, got code error now
[09:31] <Sevensins> <--- Impulsiv is back in town
[09:31] <agent_bob> anybody know the kernel package's name ?
[09:31] <Sevensins> the worlds my village
[09:31] <Sevensins> :)
[09:31] <RvGaTe> I think my question was ignored... :( or am i inpatient
[09:32] <topyli> agent_bob: there are several, for different processors. linux-image-2.6.xx-XXX
[09:32] <mchasard> ok cool opera seems to work now ...
[09:32] <Myrtti> RvGaTe: how about web config
[09:32] <Myrtti> RvGaTe: webmin
[09:32] <RvGaTe> Myrtti: does that include installing packages ?
[09:32] <linux_user400354> i cannot find firestarter. where does it get put in the gnome menu?
[09:33] <agent_bob> i show an  atm kernel-headers meta ntfs source-$ and wlan     hmmmmm
[09:33] <mchasard> theres no way to save config with live cd ?
[09:33] <mchasard> in ubuntu ?
[09:33] <Myrtti> RvGaTe: you can always install packages in console with apt
[09:33] <agent_bob> none of those look like what i'm looking for.
[09:34] <timfrost> linux_user400354, it installs to Applications->System Tools
[09:34] <RvGaTe> Myrtti: does that integrated into webmin automaticly?
[09:34] <topyli> agent_bob: those are debian packages. try linux-headers
[09:34] <Myrtti> I've got no idea
[09:35] <Myrtti> apparently there is a package called webmin-software
[09:35] <Myrtti> that might do the trick
[09:35] <mchasard> no tools to save config in a usb key or another device like knoppix can do ?
[09:35] <crimsun> mchasard: there is as of Dapper Flight 3 live cd
[09:35] <purpleheart_USMC> mchasard: and its SWEET!
[09:36] <mchasard> i run actually the dapper flight 3 livecd
[09:36] <agent_bob> what is linux-meta ?
[09:36] <crimsun> mchasard: did you read the release notes?
[09:36] <odat> hi everyone
[09:36] <egkamp> hi odat
[09:36] <mchasard> no sorry
[09:36] <odat> i have a broken ipod that needs its harddrive reformatted any idea how i do it on linux?
[09:37] <agent_bob> what is meta ?
[09:37] <topyli> agent_bob: i've never seen linux-meta
[09:37] <topyli> agent_bob: metapackages do exist though. they just depend on other packages, and contain no software themselves
[09:38] <katie> how can i convert vobs into an avi, i dvdripped last night so
[09:38] <agent_bob> topyli on the install cd  i'm looking for the standard kernel.   any idea where it is ?
[09:38] <katie> tia
[09:38] <topyli> agent_bob: what is "standard kernel"?
[09:38] <Linwinmac> how can i install firefox 1.5?
[09:38] <Linwinmac> can i do a sudo for it?
[09:39] <Linwinmac> i heard automatix slows things down thats why i dont want to use it
[09:39] <cyphase> Linwinmac, you can't sudo it
[09:39] <crimsun> agent_bob: linux-meta is the source package name that generates binary metapackages like linux-powerpc, linux-restricted-modules-386, linux-headers-386, linux-386, etc.
[09:39] <cyphase> not in ubuntu at least
[09:39] <mchasard> casper-cow is that tool ?
[09:39] <agent_bob> looking in pool/main/l/linux-*  is that not the correct place ?
[09:39] <cyphase> although i'm sure there are debs for it
[09:39] <topyli> crimsun: oh
[09:39] <Linwinmac> Cyphase, how can i install it?
[09:40] <katie> get the tar from the website?
[09:40] <crimsun> agent_bob: so the standard on ia32 would be linux-386
[09:40] <topyli> agent_bob: you don't care where the package is on the cd. just use apt-get and install the kernel of your choice
[09:40] <Blippe> !automatix
[09:40] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!, or try !easyubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[09:40] <agent_bob> crimsun there is no -386
[09:40] <ejofee> how do i delete 26 news from a rss feed in liferea?
[09:40] <rony> can some one suggest some places to look to trouble shoot slow opengl on nvidia drivers 8178.  Th drivers are installed correctly and glx seems to be working but amazingly slow
[09:40] <agent_bob> i show an  atm kernel-headers meta ntfs source-$ and wlan     hmmmmm
[09:40] <egkamp> Linwinmac: there is a website with instructions for installing firefox 1.5, it is more complicated than merely sudo apt-get install, you have to set things up in terms of your current firefox, and install the tarball
[09:41] <timfrost> !tell Linwinmac -about ff1.5
[09:41] <cyphase> Linwinmac, find a deb, or just download the binary tarball
[09:41] <crimsun> agent_bob: heh, sure there is. You're just looking in the wrong place.
[09:41] <Linwinmac> do i have to uninstall my current firefox?
[09:41] <cyphase> depends
[09:41] <Linwinmac> i just installed breezy
[09:41] <cyphase> are you going to use a deb?
[09:42] <Linwinmac> i will download the file from firefox
[09:42] <agent_bob> crimsun all i show is   atm kernel-headers meta ntfs source-# and wlan     i don't want the source just the binarry kernel package that 'should have installed by default'
[09:42] <Linwinmac> wich is is a tar file
[09:42] <cyphase> then you don't need to uninstall
[09:42] <timfrost> Linwinmac, see the message from ubotu for inmstructions
[09:42] <cyphase> just extract it in your home folder or something
[09:42] <katie> so does anyone know a good converter? I mean there's multiple VOB files, but I want there to just be one avi file without the sound being screwed up etc
[09:42] <crimsun> agent_bob: because linux-meta generates metapackages that depend on packages in restricted, you have to look in http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/restricted/l/linux-meta/
[09:42] <Linwinmac> ok i see it one sec
[09:42] <crimsun> agent_bob: it's much easier to apt-get --reinstall install linux-386
[09:43] <agent_bob> crimsun i have to be able to boot it before i can apt anything....
[09:43] <Linwinmac> ohh shit-i uninstalled firefox by mistake
[09:43] <geneo93> crimsun:  00:10.0 Multimedia audio controller: Creative Labs SB Live! EMU10k1 (rev 0a)
[09:43] <Linwinmac> and hats the first thing the site said not to do
[09:44] <Linwinmac> do i have to reinstall ubuntu desktop?
[09:44] <topyli> Linwinmac: that's easiest if you don't know what was uninstalled along with firefox
[09:46] <Linwinmac> ok cool another question ihave is im running ubuntu on a hp dv1000 series laptop i can get everything working even the leds when i search-but how caqn i make my built in media reader work?
[09:47] <ilba7r> ok defently on my laptop i am getting the cpu reading. now are there any idea on how to get the reading from the remaining 6 temperature sensors i have. The laptop is T42 thinkpad
[09:48] <astroboy33m> hello everyone!
[09:48] <rony> hi
[09:48] <astroboy33m> i'd like to know what is used to develop ubuntu and related software packages?
[09:49] <rixth> I wiped Ubuntu :(
[09:49] <rixth> Well, part of it.
[09:49] <rixth> Accidentally
[09:50] <Linwinmac> is automatix good/
[09:50] <Linwinmac> ?
[09:50] <ilba7r> !automatix
[09:50] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!, or try !easyubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EasyUbuntu
[09:50] <Linwinmac> whats the sudo for it-i did a sudo apt-get install automatix and nothing happened
[09:50] <rixth> I don't think you should get it.
[09:51] <rixth> It sounds bad
[09:51] <crimsun> geneo93: and amixer runs?
[09:51] <Linwinmac> it seems like such a hassle just to upgrade firefox
[09:52] <Linwinmac> is not veen downloading got dammit
[09:52] <Set> wow
[09:52] <Set> automatix sounds like something I should tell sys admins at work to install on production servers
[09:53] <luiscarlos> s
[09:53] <ompaul> Set, they would kill you about 10 seconds later when they read the script, some admins are very happy current security settings
[09:54] <ompaul> Set, RL != IRC :-)
[09:54] <Linwinmac> ok i downloaded firefox 1.5 to my desktop now what?
[09:54] <Linwinmac> for some reason when i try to open the site i was given nothing loads
[09:54] <Set> ompaul, I wasn't being quite serious
[09:55] <Set> first time I've seen ubotu being negative about something
[09:55] <katie> Linwinmac, did you bother to read the instructions ubotu sent you? I mean that's how i installed it
[09:55] <agent_bob> well i still can't boot ubuntu with anything but a 2.4 kernel
[09:55] <ompaul> the use of unsupported firefox means that if there is a secrurity flaw with it you are outside the "pale" you need to watch it for flaws yourself and make judgements accordingly, the version that comes with breezy/hoary gets security updates as needed
[09:55] <ompaul> agent_bob, you got some funny hardware there?
[09:56] <agent_bob> yeah
[09:56] <egkamp> ompaul: but don't you get firefox updates from mozilla with ff1.5?
[09:56] <Linwinmac> yeah but when i try to move firefox to /opt it says not enough rights
[09:56] <Linwinmac> and i dont know how to install from my desktop
[09:56] <ilba7r> Linwinmac, sudo before move will give you the rights
[09:57] <topyli> egkamp: if you install firefox in your home directory, the automatic updates should work. not so if you install system-wide
[09:57] <ompaul> egkamp, if you need a tool to install it do you now have to wait for the tool maker to work out what was wrong and update their tool, it is not part of the disto, my it sec fear is that the update would not be as fast
[09:58] <astroboy33m> bye guys!
[09:58] <oldie> Hi all
[09:59] <egkamp> ompaul: what tool? tar? gzip?
[09:59] <mitrovarr> does anyone know a good method to migrate an established ubuntu install to another hard drive?
[09:59] <ompaul> egkamp, it was suggest here that someone was expecting a tool to update their ff, that tool
[09:59] <oldie> I have the new install cd for 5.10....  I want to install it over the badger are there any prerequisits??
[09:59] <ompaul> mite, dd
[09:59] <paines> hi
[10:00] <ompaul> oldie, that is the same version
[10:00] <oldie> ooppps
[10:00] <egkamp> ompaul: ah...I see, I was thinking of the website instructions
[10:00] <ompaul> egkamp, ehh no :-)
[10:00] <oldie>  Breezy is what i am trying to install....  I have the badger
[10:00] <ompaul> oldie, breezy badger = 5.10
[10:00] <paines> I wanted to test dapper fligt 2 (amd64) but my sata controller and so the hd's won't be detected. it is a sata sil 3114 controller. any idea.
[10:00] <oldie> oopps
[10:01] <oldie> ok   hedge hog
[10:01] <oldie> sorry a bit slow
[10:01] <oldie> just got off work and need to get my computer head on
[10:02] <ompaul> oldie, backup your home directory and install the badger the bot is about to give you such a message
[10:02] <fek> moin
[10:02] <oldie> ok
[10:02] <oldie> thank you!
[10:03] <ilba7r> oldie have a look on this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. if you wana test dapper without removing breezy
[10:05] <geko> is there anyone with a asus a6va?
[10:05] <ompaul> ilba7r, fantastic you should also do this
[10:05] <wd3> hello all
[10:05] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:06] <ompaul> !+dapper
[10:06] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself. For dapper goals visit https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals
[10:06] <ilba7r> ompaul, i am tho one who added dappergoals to ubotu :)
[10:06] <ompaul> and bork my warning ability :-)
[10:06] <ilba7r> ompaul, but i think adding another line will make too long do not you think so
[10:07] <ompaul> it is far to long as it is
[10:07] <ilba7r> agree
[10:07] <ilba7r> too many warnings
[10:07] <Katie^> will someone here try and put 1p in my paypal account pls
[10:08] <nalioth> Katie^: better to ask in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <ompaul> it is designed as a warning for people, those who help on a regular basis do not want new users using dapper
[10:08] <ilba7r> ompaul, but we sould not encourge users to test dapper by including it in the factoid. at least that is my opinion
[10:08] <ompaul> until it is more stable
[10:08] <nalioth> ilba7r: let us discuss this in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:08] <ilba7r> ok nalioth
[10:09] <wd3> hey i can't get my printer to work, it shows up as lexmark z600 but wont' test print or print at all, it recommends z11 driver how do i get it to work?
[10:10] <Linwinmac> my mute button wi-fi led does not work can i do the same steps i did for my wifif led t owork? can somebody pplease tell me whats my soundcards text file to edit it?
[10:11] <Marlun> Can I do a ubuntu server installation on a 233mhz with 6GB hd and 64mb ram? =)
[10:11] <cilkay> Hi. I don't have the "strings" binary in Breezy. The usual dpkg and apt commands haven't turned up anything useful. I'm new to Ubuntu. How do I find which package contains the "strings" binary?
[10:11] <crimsun> Marlun: yes
[10:11] <Marlun> crimsun: great, I'll test it then.
[10:11] <crimsun> cilkay: binutils
[10:11] <wd3> holycow hey what's up thanks for the asst last week i need u again
[10:11] <cilkay> crimsun: thanks
[10:12] <holycow> no worries
[10:12] <pje> hello
[10:12] <cilkay> crimsun: for future reference, how could I have found that? I tried apt-cache search strings but got too many hits to be useful.
[10:12] <pje> some helpfull people here?
[10:13] <wd3> i talked to u about the sbc hpna not showing up well i just plugged in my nic and wammo, thanks
[10:13] <crimsun> cilkay: I knew it, but you can try installing dlocate, or you can use http://packages.ubuntu.com
[10:13] <pje> :)
[10:13] <robertbb> brb, testing something.
[10:13] <Eghie_Work> does someone know how to debug a mirror of a repository?
[10:14] <wd3> holycow my printer is shown up a but won't test print. lexmark z600, ubuntu recommends z11 driver won't work i have cd but it says for wind/mac  help
[10:14] <cilkay> crimsun: thanks again. I'm just trying to find counterparts to things I'm used to in Mandriva. It takes a little getting used to.
[10:14] <Marlun> When running the installation I got some errors, the last one being: "Kernel panic - not syncing: No init found. Try passing init=option to kernel."
[10:14] <Linwinmac> for my soundcard where do i go to fine the gedit file to edit it?
[10:15] <crimsun> Linwinmac: what in particular about your sound card(s)?
[10:15] <Eghie_Work> I've made a mirror of the ubuntu repository (main, restricted), and it works with apt, but nut when install a Ubuntu netinstall client
[10:15] <Linwinmac> im trying to get the mute button led t owork
[10:15] <pje> hey i'm searching also something to configure my soundcard :)
[10:15] <holycow> wd3, all i could say about printers in all honesty is either it works or it doesn't
[10:15] <Linwinmac> i got my wifi led to work so i assume the same step will be for my soundcard led
[10:16] <Eghie_Work> netinstall has the "fix" (hack) to install correctly
[10:16] <holycow> it's pretty black and white actually, either the driver works, or you are buying a supported printer
[10:16] <holycow> :/
[10:16] <Linwinmac> im on a centrino laptop
[10:16] <crimsun> Linwinmac: there are the hotkeys and hotkey-setup packages
[10:16] <Linwinmac> where?
[10:16] <Eghie_Work> and on official mirror it works, but not on my copy
[10:16] <crimsun> Linwinmac: in the repo
[10:16] <holycow> the same goes with scanners
[10:16] <crimsun> pje: configure in what way?
[10:17] <Linwinmac> crimsun im a 1 day old virging to linux-i dont know how to get around just yet..how do i access the repo and download what i need?
[10:17] <holycow> the only caveat with scanners is that udev doesn't have all scripts written for all scanners to be detected and dev nodes created, so occasionally you can wing it buy doing a manual mknod ... but thats rare
[10:17] <crimsun> Linwinmac: use Synaptic to install the one you're missing
[10:18] <wd3> holycow oooh no, didn't want to hear that..... well my d: drive i used for windows is plugged in, it showed up in partition with the / and "lighting bolt" i can't see it in ubuntu i have media on there i want to use in linux as well, do i have to mount it or something?
[10:18] <crimsun> Linwinmac: actually I think hotkey-setup is a Dapper-only package, sorry
[10:18] <liable> !moo
[10:18] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, liable
[10:18] <Linwinmac> darn-can you tell me how i can access my sound cards folder to see if i can edit something like i did with my ipw2200
[10:19] <pje> @crimson: just want to configure it to 5.1
[10:19] <holycow> wd3, what do you mean you plugged it in exactly?  did you put it on your ide cable or via usb cradle?  sounds like you have it on your ide, if so we haveto find the partition and add it to /etc/fstab or mount it manually yes.  if its via usb it should of automounted, i recommend strongly getting a usb cradle if you can
[10:19] <pje> and plz be patient. 2nd day with ubuntu (and so linux in general)
[10:19] <crimsun> pje: are you using plug:surround51 as your virtual device? ala: aplay -Dplug:surround51 /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav
[10:20] <crimsun> pje: make sure you use the Volume Control to unmute and adjust the Surround, LFE, and Center elements
[10:20] <pje> only god knows...
[10:20] <wd3> holycow ide, when i partitioned my 1st harddrive hda the d: drive showed up as hdd or something but i can't see on the desktop
[10:21] <miky> hi i'm trying to burn a cd with cd/dvd creator but it says the filenames are wrong (i'm reading from a fat32 partition, btw is there any way to convert it into an ext3?
[10:22] <miky> should i install cdw instead?
[10:23] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNTFSonBoot?highlight=%28ntfs%29%7C%28mount%29  <-- wd3 this seems fairly concise and easy
[10:23] <holycow> i don't have the time to run you through it my self
[10:23] <pje> i'm now in the volume control center... but can't find anything...
[10:23] <holycow> your basically going to: find the partition label, backup fstab first, add it to fstab, create a folder for the partition, mount the partition to the folder and you should get an icon on your desktop to read ntfs
[10:23] <holycow> note: you cannot write to ntfs
[10:24] <wd3> holycow i understand thanks for the link
[10:25] <miky> anybody?
[10:25] <wd3> holy cow i just updated ubuntu and not there's a "untitled folder" on desktop what is it for and shall i delete it?
[10:25] <pje> crimsun already gave up? :)
[10:26] <crimsun> pje: I'm busy atm, I'll scroll up and read your response as soon as I can.
[10:26] <holycow> wd3, if there is nothing in it you want, you can safely delete it
[10:26] <jeph> hi all. thinking of moving from sarge to ubuntu. Which version of evolution ships with ubuntu?
[10:26] <pje> find
[10:26] <pje> e
[10:26] <jeph> and does windowmaker ship with ubuntu?
[10:27] <savage_fred> question on what i would need to install ubuntu with only the floppy drive option
[10:27] <miky> hi i'm trying to burn a cd with cd/dvd creator but it says the filenames are wrong (i'm reading from a fat32 partition, btw is there any way to convert it into an ext3?
[10:27] <aemccoy> I need a little help
[10:28] <aemccoy> am trying to use a plugin for totem and i don't know how or where to put it
[10:28] <savage_fred> my bios doesnt support boot from cdrom, so how would i install ubuntu starting out from the floppy drive?\
[10:28] <miky> aemccoy, gstremer-all from synaptic
[10:29] <savage_fred>  my bios doesnt support boot from cdrom, so how would i install ubuntu starting out from the floppy drive?
[10:29] <aemccoy> where might gstremer be located?
[10:30] <Linwinmac> how do i access xgamma to mess around with brightness and contrast?
[10:30] <savage_fred>  my bios doesnt support boot from cdrom, so how would i install ubuntu starting out from the floppy drive? its a ibm netvista.
[10:30] <andrey_> where might iptable located?
[10:31] <wd3> holycow u can tell i'm a newbie please be patient u been great ok what programs do u run personally on ur system i mean r all the default progs cool?  r there better? i used trillian for windows xp "like gaim but more graphical" i was thinking about using wine to load that on linux, do u use wine for anything?
[10:31] <crimsun> andrey_: it's not installed by default; you can install the 'iptables' package
[10:31] <savage_fred> does ubuntu have a linux boot floppy so i can enable loading the os from the cdrom?
[10:31] <crimsun> andrey_: err, sorry, it _should_ be installed by default
[10:31] <holycow> i hate trillian .. but to each their own i guess.  i use all defaults but occasionally i install from outside repos
[10:32] <holycow> i mean there are 16 000 applications prepackaged for me and free, what can i possibly want really?
[10:32] <holycow> there are a few things that are hard to replace sometimes, i'm used to dreamweaver but quanta+ is actually good, just a different workflow
[10:32] <miky> aemccoy, system -> administration -> synaptic package manager?
[10:32] <aemccoy> ok which gstremer do I use for the totem plugin there are two
[10:32] <crimsun> pje: please open Applications> Accessories> Terminal, and type: amixer
[10:32] <holycow> for replacing trillian try gaim, it supports everything like trillian
[10:32] <crimsun> pje: then take that output and paste it onto this Web site: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:32] <andrey_> I know where the demon located --->  /sbin/iptables
[10:32] <aemccoy> yeah I am there
[10:32] <holycow> using wine is fine, i use crossover office for support of professional apps tho
[10:33] <holycow> wd3, let me turn your question around on you
[10:33] <holycow> i DARE YOU to try every single application in the repositore
[10:33] <holycow> and actually learn to use it
[10:33] <holycow> *cough*
[10:33] <skulltula> hey guys... i need to know how to pick up chicks on ubuntu/.
[10:33] <s_spiff> is there anything like ctrl+alt+del for linux? I'm trying to close amsn..it won't budge..its in a 'hung' state..
[10:33] <holycow> i hope you have several lifetimes available to spare
[10:33] <holycow> :)
[10:34] <andrey_> but how I can create file with faierwall rules?
[10:34] <ilba7r> s_spiff, if you have gnome than use forcequit
[10:34] <skulltula> i can't seem to attract women with this distro... :\
[10:34] <s_spiff> in commandline?
[10:34] <ilba7r> s_spiff, if you know the pid than kill. or use killall amsn as last resort
[10:34] <ardchoille> how do I find out what app is using a certain port?
[10:34] <s_spiff> i tried using killall but doesn't budge..
[10:35] <s_spiff>  no process killed it says!
[10:35] <crimsun> pje: then tell me the url of the paste
[10:35] <s_spiff> anyways its working right now..as in amsn is working again...
[10:35] <ilba7r> s_spiff, forcequit is an applet that you can add to the panel. right click on the panel and add it
[10:35] <s_spiff>  so.. thanks anyways
[10:35] <wd3> ok ok i get the message, play with them first then i may like them, i just missed that windows graphicalness  *cough*
[10:35] <s_spiff> ok..will check it out
[10:35] <s_spiff>  thanks
[10:35] <aemccoy> why won't my synaptic package manager allow me to mark my gstreamer0.8-aa for installation?
[10:37] <wd3> holycow i'm just feeling a little frustrated, my zip won't reconize, my d: drive isn't working, my printer is seen but unseen.......:( feeling kinda low....
[10:37] <holycow> well your printer manufacture is shitty to begin with, its a lexmark afterall
[10:37] <holycow> they barely support windows, never mind linux
[10:38] <j2daosh> hows it going people?
[10:38] <holycow> second your d drive is recognized, you just don't have the skills to mount it
[10:38] <holycow> if you had it in  a usb cradle it would of been automounted
[10:38] <holycow> alternatively, there is work going on so that you can plug hds into ide and it also will ber automounted
[10:38] <j2daosh> bunr!
[10:38] <pje> crimsun
[10:38] <j2daosh> lol j/p
[10:38] <pje> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7248
[10:38] <holycow> its just a bunch of udev scripts ... it takes time, linux, ubuntu and udev are under heave dev
[10:39] <holycow> as for your zip, no clue.  i would say ditch the zip and get a usb key and a dvd burner
[10:39] <holycow> dvd's will store more, burn faster, and a usb key is the right way to transfer files
[10:39] <holycow> i no longer buy laptops with cd roms for example, its stupid
[10:39] <aemccoy> can someone tell me how to get into my gstreamer?
[10:39] <j2daosh> what is said person trying to do holycow
[10:39] <j2daosh> ?
[10:39] <holycow> j2daosh, nothing, he has 3 devices not working as expected and is feeling a bit low
[10:39] <j2daosh> sure... /home/username/.gstreamer
[10:40] <holycow> each problem is a different problem domain
[10:40] <j2daosh> ahh
[10:40] <aemccoy> I am having difficulty because there are like 10 of them and I dont know which one to use
[10:40] <holycow> wd3, simply should be aware of the outlines of the 3 different problems, hopefully hiis outlook will balance out
[10:40] <aemccoy> is it just going to send me to the right one and when I get in how do I impliment a plugin?
[10:42] <j2daosh> download the w32codecs... install them... then do a i think its like sudo register-gstreamer0.8
[10:42] <j2daosh> lemme see if i can find my documentation
[10:42] <aemccoy> download them fromwhere?
[10:42] <spoilerhead> don't lough on me, but  managed it to remove the update-notifier icon from my gnome-panel, and now i'm unable to add it
[10:42] <aemccoy> sorry my brother installed ubuntu on my laptop and I don't know how to use it
[10:42] <j2daosh> !w32codecs
[10:42] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:43] <j2daosh> god i love that boy
[10:43] <j2daosh> bot
[10:43] <j2daosh> cafe did a good job on what it can answer lol, saves me alot of trouble and repitition :)
[10:44] <wd3> holycow thanks again, my printer has usb and lpt1 i'll buy a usb cable in the morning. the zip i'll ditch ur right, i'm use to trnsfering file with people by zip, i should keep up with the times :o) i looked at the link u sent me, it's for ntfs, mine on fat32 same principle?
[10:44] <crimsun> pje: ok, looking.
[10:44] <pje> k
[10:45] <crimsun> pje: does stereo sound work?
[10:45] <holycow> wd3, same principle but in fstab instead of writing ntfs write vfat
[10:45] <j2daosh> wd3 somehwat similar... ntfs will have read write issues
[10:45] <holycow> and you can write safely to fat from linux
[10:45] <j2daosh> oh he has vfat... ok... thats easier then
[10:45] <holycow> ntfs has no read issues just for the record
[10:45] <holycow> only write issues
[10:45] <holycow> i.e. can't write
[10:46] <pje> well
[10:46] <pje> thinks so
[10:46] <pje> don't really have a file for testing
[10:47] <aemccoy> cd ~/Desktop
[10:47] <aemccoy> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[10:48] <crimsun> pje: it's much easier than trying with a file: Do you hear sound at all currently?
[10:48] <pje> yes :)
[10:48] <pje> listening my mp3s without probs
[10:48] <pje> with headset
[10:48] <crimsun> pje: ok, one down.
[10:50] <aemccoy> it said dpkg:  error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install) : cannot access archive: No such file or directory    Errors were encoutered while processing
[10:50] <aemccoy> what did I do wrong
[10:50] <wd3> holycow , j2daosh ur great, i'm getting creamed some nights and days but u r really pulling me through. I really want to keept ubuntu, i just need knowledge. i dL linux for dummies and linux project e books for commands so i hope it helps.
[10:50] <j2daosh> are u in same directory you dled it into?
[10:50] <holycow> wd3, google and ubuntu wiki are your main sources of info frankly
[10:51] <j2daosh> wd.. anytime... about 2 weeks ago i was you anyway... u learn quick in here lol
[10:51] <aemccoy> wow never mind
[10:51] <aemccoy> I am a moron sometimes
[10:51] <holycow> wd3, linux has all the auto goodness that windows macs have, well almost.  we are slowly scripting our way to automating this stuff.
[10:51] <miky> anybody know a good music synthesizer for ubuntu/linux?
[10:51] <holycow> wd3, in time it will be seamless, but for now, you really should have some basic skills on administering your system
[10:52] <holycow> you basically need to know how to mount hard drives, debug printer and scanner issues, and the rest is just looking up stuff on google/wiki
[10:52] <j2daosh> u get it to work aemccoy ?
[10:52] <aemccoy> not yet
[10:52] <miky> hi i'm trying to burn a cd with cd/dvd creator but it says the filenames are wrong (i'm reading from a fat32 partition, btw is there any way to convert it into an ext3?
[10:52] <FlipSt4R> how can i install xinetd or inetd on my ubuntu?
[10:53] <aemccoy> downloading the w32codecs but just recieved an error 'archive type not supported
[10:53] <aemccoy> '
[10:53] <tim__> when i put in this command,  sudo apt-get -f install how does linux know which program to get the dependency files for, which ones to get and where does it get them
[10:53] <nbound> how do you remove a package youve compiled youreself?
[10:53] <wd3> i see thanks again, to be 6 days into this i'm doing ok, i gonna read that link now i'll be back if u two r gone have a nice whatever until next time.......u two r great.
[10:53] <crimsun> pje: ok, in a Terminal, paste the following command: for i in "Headphone LFE" "Headphone Center" "Surround" "Wave"; do amixer sset \'$i\' on; done
[10:54] <holycow> 6 days? ha! don't give up that easily :)
[10:54] <holycow> learn 2 or 3 things and  your good to go
[10:54] <aemccoy> is there anything else that I can do?
[10:54] <pje> the command begins with "for i in ...."?
[10:54] <j2daosh> apt-get -f install just checks sources and sees if you have a matching one that is outdated
[10:54] <holycow> don't forget most people have 15 years of windows training
[10:54] <crimsun> pje: yes, just copy and paste what I typed
[10:54] <holycow> you can't just plug linux in and expect your skills to transfer over, it just isn't windows ... thankfully
[10:54] <bobslaede> pje: for X in .html
[10:54] <bobslaede> pje: for X in *.html
[10:55] <bobslaede> pje: do
[10:55] <nbound> how do you remove a package youve compiled youreself????
[10:55] <bobslaede> pje:    stuff
[10:55] <holycow> wd3, oh and lots and lots and lots of cool stuff comming down the line
[10:55] <bobslaede> pje: done
[10:55] <pje> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7249
[10:55] <tim__> does it check all of your source files everytime you enter the command
[10:56] <j2daosh> wd3, yeah later one once you get the basic commands we will tell you the little tweaks for your entire computer outlook :) (ya know, themes)
[10:56] <wd3> holycow i hear u, i tried kubuntu and it's graphical i like, but i wanted something more original, less windows.
[10:56] <holycow> wd3, me too
[10:56] <miky> hi i have a problem, i can't burn a cd because i get invalid filenames
[10:56] <nbound> how do you remove a package youve compiled youreself???? anyone? i mean in ones ive had to "make" to compile
[10:56] <miky> i'm using cd/dvd creator
[10:57] <wd3> j2daosh, themes i saw bintoo (egyptian distro) man that stuff on the right side of the screen (the temp, cpu etc) awesome.......
[10:57] <nbound> miky, using a cd or a dvd
[10:57] <wd3> holycow u tried kubuntu also
[10:57] <j2daosh> i haven't seen the temp thing or nothing but they have alot of different ones... mine is as close to looking like XP as im willing to go
[10:57] <ilba7r> wd3 look at this package gkrellm. will do that for you
[10:58] <holycow> what ilba7r said
[10:58] <Katie^> with a .iso can i just right click and say "write to disc"? or won't it boto?
[10:59] <wd3> ilba7r i tried to remember that last night from this person online but i forgot it thanks ilba7r
[10:59] <j2daosh> Katie^, if you have the option to right click... if not do it from file manager
[10:59] <ilba7r> wd3 ur welcomed
[10:59] <pje> crimson > http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7249
[10:59] <wd3> is gkrellm on the distro already or do i go to ubuntu?
[10:59] <ssam> Katie^, thats a good way to burn isos
[11:00] <Katie^> so that'll work then right
[11:00] <Katie^> lol
[11:00] <j2daosh> u will more then likely have to get is wd3
[11:00] <aemccoy> so I typed sudo apt-get install gstreamer.8-mad, and the end result is 'you may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems'  listed above but I have no idea what to do
[11:00] <ssam> Katie^, it works well for me
[11:00] <bobslaede> aemccoy: run apt-get update
[11:00] <j2daosh> u run sudo apt-get update
[11:00] <bobslaede> aemccoy: ;)
[11:00] <Katie^> ty
[11:01] <aemccoy> ok
[11:01] <crimsun> pje: you have to spell "crimsun" to trigger the highlight, not "crimson" ;)
[11:01] <gogogog54> helloo
[11:01] <aemccoy> what exactly am I updating?
[11:01] <wd3> j2daosh thanks i'll google it, see i'm learning.......  :o)
[11:01] <j2daosh> that may or may not correct it though... if not you will have to change some sources in your sources.list file to fix the errors
[11:01] <orion> hi could you help me with some proftpd issues ?
[11:01] <ilba7r> wd3 gkrellm is in the repos
[11:02] <bobslaede> aemccoy: the list of stuff in the apt thingy, damn, that didnt go well
[11:02] <j2daosh> lol i know... like i said... took me 2 weeks to get stuff down to the point i was comfortable
[11:02] <ilba7r> !tell wd3 about reops
[11:02] <aemccoy> :)
[11:02] <crimsun> pje: hmm. Ok, do it manually. In the Terminal, open alsamixer
[11:02] <ilba7r> !tell wd3 about reopsitories
[11:02] <j2daosh> oh wd3 DO NOT chmod 777 the /usr directory
[11:02] <ilba7r> !reops
[11:02] <ubotu> ilba7r: I give up, what is it?
[11:02] <pje> argh
[11:02] <pje> ^^
[11:02] <pje> k
[11:02] <ssam> !repos
[11:02] <ilba7r> !repos
[11:02] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:02] <j2daosh> lol i did it once... its a automatic reinstall of ubuntu if you do lol
[11:02] <crimsun> pje: use the left and right arrows to navigate to all the Headphone, Surround, and Wave elements
[11:02] <pje> there it is
[11:02] <ilba7r> at last
[11:03] <wd3> i'm lost what?
[11:03] <bobslaede> aemccoy: the list of files i spose
[11:03] <pje> okay
[11:03] <aemccoy> ok it is done
[11:03] <wd3> repos?
[11:03] <aemccoy> now what
[11:03] <mchasard> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence here is the way to save config with new live cd
[11:03] <bobslaede> aemccoy: try the before stuff again
[11:03] <crimsun> pje: for each of the Headphone, Surround, and Wave elements that are muted (they have MM at the bottom of the slider), press 'm' to unmute, then increase their levels
[11:03] <j2daosh> repos are places you get your software/updates
[11:03] <ilba7r> wd3, they are ftp sites to download packages (programs)
[11:03] <j2daosh> the more you have the more you can pick from
[11:03] <ssam> anyone who collects crazy ebay sales might like http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=4604067913
[11:03] <wd3> repos oh i read that is that the universe stuff
[11:03] <aemccoy> it says mine is already the newest version
[11:03] <j2daosh> all the stuff in your synaptic manager and the apt-get rely on "repos"
[11:03] <bobslaede> aemccoy: then thats good
[11:03] <aemccoy> gstreamer0.8
[11:04] <aemccoy> how do I use it
[11:04] <miky> nbound, a cd
[11:04] <pje> doesnt change if surround is on 0 or 100
[11:04] <aemccoy> I want to use a plugin so that totem will support mozilla media files
[11:04] <wd3> thats the universe and multiverse stuff right?
[11:04] <j2daosh> aemccoy, once u have it downloaded you use totem-zine, mplayer (personal favorite) or some other media player and your good to go
[11:04] <crimsun> pje: you have to adjust all the elements I mentioned
[11:04] <ilba7r> wd3 there are much than that. follow ubotu link and you will learn more
[11:04] <xored> is there any good tool for handling centrino clocking in linux ?
[11:04] <gogogog54> i need some help, ubuntu compltetely frezes and all i can do is move my curser
[11:05] <aemccoy> ??
[11:05] <j2daosh> mozilla firefox?
[11:05] <pje> oh
[11:05] <pje> works :)
[11:05] <crimsun> heh.
[11:05] <ssam> j2daosh, thats totem-xine
[11:05] <crimsun> see?
[11:05] <pje> thx alot!
[11:05] <aemccoy> yes
[11:05] <crimsun> np
[11:05] <aemccoy> I don't have to use the plugin?
[11:05] <j2daosh> ssam, yeah that one... not zine... typo
[11:05] <ssam> j2daosh, :-)
[11:05] <miky> where do i set my java_home variable? in bash.bashrc or /etc/profile?
[11:05] <nbound> hmmm ive encountered it with a dvd but never a cd
[11:05] <nbound> i just thought it was it not liking my dvd
[11:05] <s_spiff{AWAY}> anyone here tried bmpx? the new media player by the bmp guys?
[11:06] <aemccoy> I am so lost
[11:06] <miky> nbound, ok
[11:06] <gogogog54> anyone help?
[11:06] <ssam> miky, bashrc if it just for you, /etc/ is for all users on the system
[11:06] <aemccoy> I can't believe my brother learned all of this stuff
[11:06] <pc7_> hola
[11:06] <miky> ok
[11:07] <aemccoy> so how do I use totem-xine?
[11:07] <wd3> ok all i'm surfing for these things now i'll see u online soon thank you all u r all great, i see with ur help i'll be giving advice myself (of course after i read and study and get windows off my mind)   :o)
[11:07] <j2daosh> aemccoy, go to a site you wanna play... it will say your missing the plugins... click the link to get the plugins at the top (much like XP's information bar)
[11:07] <ssam> gogogog54, when does it do that?
[11:07] <s_spiff{AWAY}> gogogog54, keep buzzing around, someone will eventually help u out..also try the forums... better for getting more comprehensive solutions
[11:07] <s_spiff{AWAY}> i'm a noob to linux..so can't help  out much on it..sorry
[11:07] <j2daosh> wd3, why? i have a windows XP partition to compliment the stuff i cant do in linux...
[11:07] <j2daosh> :)
[11:07] <holycow> wd3, no worries dude, we're all noobs on the learning curve of life
[11:07] <aemccoy> it is just going to give me the links?
[11:07] <gogogog54> yea i have been looking on the fourms for two solid now
[11:07] <aemccoy> I didn't see that before
[11:08] <gogogog54> day*
[11:08] <gogogog54> s*
[11:08] <holycow> wd3, one of the things you will find is that when you gain some basic skills on linux you won't want to go back to windows because using windows is like trying to run with a walker
[11:08] <j2daosh> yeah... it will say firefox is missing the required plugins to play whatever... click here to get plugins
[11:08] <holycow> learning and skills are what its all about afterall
[11:08] <j2daosh> lol holy... i can do that you know
[11:08] <holycow> run with a walker?
[11:08] <holycow> bad boy
[11:08] <j2daosh> yep :)
[11:08] <holycow> give that back to grampa
[11:08] <ilba7r> j2daosh, it should install flash. other plugins are found in the repos
[11:09] <j2daosh> i used to steal my grandpas when i was a kid
[11:09] <miky> another question how do i permit a partition to be written on by another user?
[11:09] <j2daosh> yeah u can use the repos or dl them from the firefox browser
[11:09] <aemccoy> The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[11:09] <j2daosh> miky... add user=whoever to the fstab
[11:10] <miky> ok
[11:10] <aemccoy> was that because totem was open?
[11:10] <j2daosh> or just chmod +rwx the directory lol
[11:10] <j2daosh> was what because totem was open?
[11:10] <j2daosh> yeah that could be why
[11:10] <aemccoy> the error
[11:10] <j2daosh> or it is because you dont have the video card installed properly
[11:11] <constantcrashs> hellp
[11:11] <aemccoy> now I am at the page but It is blank and I press play and nothing happens
[11:11] <aemccoy> I am not getting any codes or errors or anything
[11:11] <ilba7r> aemccoy, can you restate what you want to do
[11:11] <j2daosh> he wants the plugins for firefox
[11:12] <ilba7r> which plugin
[11:12] <aemccoy> I want totem to support video from firefox
[11:12] <aemccoy> she
[11:12] <j2daosh> i told him to go to a site that needed the plugins and when the "information bar" popped up to dl the plugin
[11:12] <aemccoy> she
[11:12] <ilba7r> do not get angry aemccoy
[11:12] <aemccoy> I am not
[11:12] <ilba7r> ok for mpeg it is better to use the mozill-mplayer plugin
[11:12] <aemccoy> What information bar though
[11:12] <bobslaede> aemccoy: sorry, i was gone for a minute there
[11:13] <aemccoy> mplayer isn't my default and I don't know how to change my default player
[11:13] <j2daosh> well on mine it pops up... maybe not on yours for some reason
[11:13] <aemccoy> I was just trying to do with what I have
[11:13] <bobslaede> aemccoy: cant you install windows media player?
[11:13] <ilba7r> aemccoy, you do not need to change the default
[11:13] <bobslaede> my firefox works with that
[11:14] <bobslaede> or quicktime
[11:14] <ilba7r> just install mozilla-mplayer
[11:14] <j2daosh> https://pfs.mozilla.org/plugins/?application=firefox
[11:14] <aemccoy> why would I want windows media player
[11:14] <bobslaede> aemccoy: i dont know...
[11:14] <j2daosh> go there and get your plugins aemccoy
[11:14] <wd3> ok i have a c drive win xp 20g half full, i took it out and ran a fresh install of linux on a 15g, kept my d: drive (where my media is fat). can i partition the c: win xp to dual boot even though win is already on it? i saw the video (two guys) installing dual boot but they and online resources did a win fresh install then loaded ubuntu.
[11:14] <bobslaede> aemccoy: mplayer then :)
[11:14] <ilba7r> aemccoy, did you go through this !restictedformat
[11:14] <aemccoy> doesn't that defeat the point of using linux?
[11:14] <ilba7r> !restircted
[11:14] <ubotu> ilba7r: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:14] <ilba7r> !restirctedformat
[11:14] <bobslaede> aemccoy: nah
[11:14] <aemccoy> I am way to slow for this
[11:14] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ilba7r
[11:15] <aemccoy> maybe another time
[11:15] <windowmaker> i just installed firefox 1.5 from binary tarball... how do i run it now?
[11:15] <bobslaede> :p
[11:15] <j2daosh> wd3, yes... when you install linux on a windows box u can use the option to add the grub loader
[11:15] <ilba7r> !restricted
[11:15] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:15] <j2daosh> it will allow you to boot to either os
[11:15] <ilba7r> aemccoy, follow ubotu link
[11:16] <holycow> wd3, anyway welcome to the real world.  life outside the matrix is a little disconcerting at first but no one ever goes back ... we'll help you rebuild your attrophied skills :)
[11:16] <ilba7r> windowmaker, there is a firefox shell file click on it
[11:16] <aemccoy> I have mplayer though
[11:16] <wd3> u mean i can leave my win on and just load the boot for linux?
[11:16] <aemccoy> so what are you instructing me to do?
[11:16] <constantcrashs> i am going to disaper in a minute
[11:16] <windowmaker> ilba7r, that's the problem, i don't know where that is
[11:16] <wd3> holycow thanks
[11:16] <ilba7r> windowmaker where you unpcked the tar file
[11:16] <windowmaker> ilba7r, nevermind, found it
[11:17] <windowmaker> ilba7r, nope, false alarm
[11:17] <cyphase> look at this - http://www.planetdiaz.com/forums/index.php?s=adc456e3be5fdf1f1d5d0355353c26d4&act=Attach&type=post&id=29
[11:17] <j2daosh> aemccoy, look at the pm
[11:17] <cyphase> look at that notification tray :D
[11:17] <xored> are there tools for ubuntu to control the centrino clock and lower the voltage ( CPU ) ?
[11:17] <wd3> j2daosh thanks
[11:18] <j2daosh> ur welcome wd3
[11:18] <cyphase> http://www.planetdiaz.com/forums/index.php?s=adc456e3be5fdf1f1d5d0355353c26d4&act=Attach&type=post&id=33
[11:19] <ssam> xored, there was a discussion http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117264
[11:19] <j2daosh> yeah wd... u leave windows (u will have to make room for linux) and then when u install linux u will be asked if you wanna install the grub... just say yes and it sets it up from there... once the system is done setting up... u will reboot and it will ask if you wanna load linux or boot to window
[11:19] <wd3> j2daosh so just partition free space in c: for linux ext 3 and swap then what do i do for the d: drive which is fat32 plus what do i do for the c: which is ntfs
[11:19] <wd3> j2daosh i thought i had to install a fresh win for that sorry
[11:20] <constantcrashs> just installed ubuntu 5.10 -- 2.6.12-10-386 not to long ago everything went fine exept it keeps hard locking all that moves is the curser i have installed the latist nvidia drivers NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1, i even did a clean install to see if i could stop it happening
[11:20] <j2daosh> leave the ntfs alone... leave d alone... fat can be written to in linux... the ntfs you wont be able to write too unless you install samba and make a shared folder
[11:20] <CarinArr> hey.. quick question.. is there a way i can delete a line containing a certain word from all the files in a directory?
[11:20] <deicidus> hi, i thought id debrief on what happened with my airport extreme card
[11:20] <j2daosh> then you can write to the ntfs partition
[11:20] <bergeti> !repos
[11:20] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:21] <j2daosh> wd3, one thing to note... install windows before linux because when you install windows it erases the grub load option on startup
[11:21] <wd3> j2daosh thanks thanks thanks, how often do u use win?
[11:21] <wd3> ok
[11:21] <deicidus> dapper *will* work on my ibook g4, but as soon as the settings fall into the correct configuration that should allow the airport extreme card to work, X11 stops working
[11:21] <j2daosh> when i cant get wine to run a windows program i still use
[11:21] <deicidus> which is quite frustrating.
[11:21] <j2daosh> maily absolute poker :)
[11:22] <ssam> deicidus, have you filed a bug?
[11:22] <wd3> wow thats deep.. do u miss the graphics
[11:22] <j2daosh> miss what graphics?
[11:22] <deicidus> so i decided to give up, install breezy again, and buy http://www.a-link.com/WL54USB.html to use until the internal airport is supported (then ill give it to my desktop and get rid of some wires)
[11:22] <aemccoy> ok so I am downloading realplayer
[11:22] <wd3> ubuntu looks unexcited......
[11:22] <j2daosh> realplayer plugin? or standalone?
[11:23] <j2daosh> wd3... not so much... ill take a screenshot of my desktop and you can see...
[11:23] <wd3> or is it i've been brainwashed....   :o)
[11:23] <aemccoy> both
[11:23] <wd3> cooollllll
[11:23] <aemccoy> so do I have to do anything to get it to work?
[11:23] <deicidus> ssam, no, should i? its dapper and i figured theyre still working on it, so a bug report wouldnt really bring anything new to their attention
[11:23] <Eghie_Work> does someone know how to run debian-install in debug mode?
[11:24] <pawan__> I've installed icewm and have a very odd problem - middle button paste closes previous rxvt
[11:24] <pawan__> clues?
[11:25] <Eghie_Work> ubuntu netinstall won't download the installer components from the mirror i've made :S
[11:25] <ssam> deicidus, it might still be worth it so they can keep track of issues
[11:25] <j2daosh> Eghie_Work, yeah... use the dpkg -i command
[11:25] <j2daosh> wd3, accept transfer
[11:25] <_torkel> mmm, i've installed ruby but I cant seem to find rubygems? what package do i need to install to get that 'gem' utility?
[11:25] <wd3> j2daosh i hit accept but nothing.....
[11:25] <deicidus> ssam, ok, ill report it
[11:26] <j2daosh> u behind a firewall or something?
[11:26] <Eghie_Work> j2daosh: the netinstall has no dpkg included
[11:26] <rixth> What is a nice music player that has a library? Apart from rhythmbox
[11:26] <j2daosh> netinstall of what?
[11:27] <Eghie_Work> ubuntu
[11:27] <j2daosh> i use xmms (winamp for linux
[11:27] <wd3> my hpna modem firewall
[11:27] <rixth> That doesn't have a lirbary?
[11:27] <rixth> Only playlists
[11:27] <j2daosh> oh
[11:27] <j2daosh> well in that case nevermind
[11:27] <wd3> sorry can u email me ?
[11:27] <j2daosh> wd3, got a yahoo email addy?
[11:27] <Rod> hi
[11:27] <Rod> how to reconfigure my X?
[11:27] <wd3> yes wd3thatsme@yahoo.com
[11:27] <Rod> dpkg --reconfigure something... :s
[11:28] <aemccoy> will realplayer make itself my default automatically?
[11:28] <Ng> Rod: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:28] <Rod> xserver-xorg didnt work
[11:28] <Rod> aahhhh ok, htanks Mg!
[11:28] <Rod> dpkg-reconfigure
[11:28] <Rod> thanks again mate, ill be back soon in ubuntu
[11:28] <ilba7r> wd3, you can make ubuntu look anything like that and more http://www.gnome-look.org/
[11:29] <Foopub> If I finger my user account, it says I have new, unread mail. Where is this stored or how do I access it?
[11:29] <pawan__> Foopub : /var/spool/mail/Foopub
[11:31] <wd3> ilba7r i just wet myself, put windows to shame,,,ohh my i'll be back.
[11:31] <Foopub> pawan__: Thanks
[11:31] <ilba7r> wd3, lol
[11:32] <ssam> does anyone know whoes in charge of ubotu?
[11:32] <ilba7r> ssam for regular factoids you can change them yourself
[11:32] <aemccoy> should I get rid of some of the media players that I have?
[11:32] <bimberi> !who's your daddy
[11:32] <ubotu> cafuego
[11:33] <MacSlow> Is there a way to install the nvidia-driver 1.0-8178 via apt-get/synaptic under Breezy?
[11:33] <ilba7r> lol who is your sugar daddy is better
[11:33] <bimberi> :)
[11:33] <wd3> hey all it's 2:30am cali time i have to go..... but first gnome-loop  chat with all tommorrow... thanks again
[11:33] <ssam> ilba7r, i am just wondering about some of the things it says when it does not know that answer
[11:33] <holycow> MacSlow, what do you mean?
[11:33] <holycow> MacSlow, wiki.ubuntulinux.org is your friend
[11:33] <ilba7r> ssam i too had a remark on that
[11:33] <ssam> !meaning of life
[11:33] <Abecedarian> Hmmm...  when Ubuntu updates by downloading a new kernel does it merely edit the grub and download a single file, or does it change multiple files across the board?  And if it is the former, can one simply stick the new kernel on a disk and transfer it to another Ubuntu's /boot/ after which they could boot to the update without any problems?
[11:33] <ubotu> methinks meaning of life is 42
[11:34] <ilba7r> so yes you need to talk to cafuego. I tried myself but seems he was not on
[11:34] <ssam> ok, he know that one, but he is rude sometimes
[11:34] <dooglus> Abecedarian: it depends
[11:34] <dooglus> Abecedarian: sometimes there are new modules too
[11:34] <pawan__> I've installed icewm and have a very odd problem - middle button paste closes previous rxvt. Clues?
[11:35] <dooglus> Abecedarian: but either way, you can copy the .deb files out of /var/cache/apt/archives/ onto the other machines and install with "sudo dpkg -i"
[11:35] <aemccoy> well this sucks
[11:35] <aemccoy> I still can't get media to play from my browser
[11:35] <ilba7r> pawan__, do not understand rxvt. but you can config icewm there is a package for that
[11:36] <Ng> Abecedarian: every time there is a new kernel update it downloads a whole package and installs a new kernel, new initrd, new modules and a few other bits. If you want to move them you'd need the vmlinuz image, the initrd image and the right folder from /lib/modules/
[11:36] <Ng> Abecedarian: so copying the whole .deb as dooglus suggested will be far easier :)
[11:36] <ilba7r> aemccoy, you should check ubotu links on restricted formats
[11:36] <ilba7r> !restricted
[11:36] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:36] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Very good to know...  I am currently dealing with vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-686 versus vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686.  In this case I am wondering if I can create a boot disk with the newer kernel in order to boot to a non-updated version of ubuntu.
[11:36] <aemccoy> what is that?
[11:36] <aemccoy> treat me like a small child and explain everything very thoroughly
[11:36] <ilba7r> aemccoy, some of the codecs are property and that is why might not play well using gstreamer
[11:37] <ilba7r> aemccoy, follow the link and it will explain everything in detail
[11:37] <dooglus> Abecedarian: you can keep both kernels installed on the hard disk and let grub choose between them at boot time
[11:37] <aemccoy> what link
[11:38] <ilba7r> !tell aemccoy about restricted
[11:38] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Eh, a little different in this case.  The boot disk will actually load the kernel from the disk and then change root over to the target.  So my concern is that I might be building something with a -10 kernel when -9 is only what is installed, and as a result the kernel on the boot disk will be incompatable with the files installed on the target.
[11:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ! customizing Openbox
[11:40] <ubotu> s_spiff{AWAY}: Bugger all, i dunno
[11:40] <s_spiff{AWAY}> !Openbox
[11:40] <ubotu> openbox is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Openbox
[11:42] <dooglus> ssam: what does ubotu say that's rude?
[11:42] <owner> hi guys
[11:42] <dooglus> ssam: "Did you get hit by a windmill?" is about as rude as he gets I think
[11:42] <ilba7r> dooglus, try ritalian somking crack. but it is much toned down now
[11:42] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Do you have any idea whether doing that might cause problems?
[11:43] <miky> it seems that my cdrw is read-only which keeps me from burning cd's could this be?
[11:43] <ssam> dooglus, some people might get offended by "Bugger all, i dunno" or "Are you on ritalin?, ssam"
[11:43] <dooglus> Abecedarian: I don't really understand what you said, sorry.  Which 'root' did you mean?  "/" or "uid 0"?
[11:43] <owner> i have a problem
[11:43] <aemccoy> I don't understand how that is going to help me freeformats are supported by applications that I have to purchase?
[11:43] <owner> i installed a new vanilla kernel from source
[11:43] <owner> but gnome freezes when its starting
[11:43] <owner> i can log in however
[11:44] <owner> im using fluxbox
[11:44] <owner> but gnome doesnt start
[11:44] <ilba7r> aemccoy, where does it say freeformats are supported by appl you have to purchase?
[11:44] <ilba7r> aemccoy, freeformats are still being developed so do not expect everything to work perfectly
[11:45] <aemccoy> am I not understanding it correctly?
[11:45] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  *lol*  Sorry, I wasn't very clear and I barely understand the question that I'm asking.  Basically, the boot disk will contain a copied kernel which it will load.  After which it will change root to being an another device.  However, in this case the other device will have a 2.6.12-9-686 kernel while it is probable that the boot disk's kernel will be 2.6.12-10-686.
[11:45] <aemccoy> I had no idea what I was getting into when I let my brother dink with my laptop
[11:45] <ilba7r> aemccoy, restricted formats are the licensed stuff. I do not think you can purchase it even if you want to
[11:45] <aemccoy> this is so very frusterating for me
[11:45] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  So I'm concerned whether that gap will cause problems or whether it should work fine even if the target is a bit outdated.
[11:46] <dooglus> Abecedarian: are you talking about booting from a floppy?
[11:46] <dooglus> Abecedarian: why are you talking about a separate boot disk at all?  I still don't really get it.
[11:47] <dooglus> owner: try making a new user - can the new user start GNOME?  (sudo adduser user2)
[11:49] <aemccoy> ilba7r at the risk of you repeating yourself will you please tell me what you would do if you couldn't watch video from your browser because your default didnn't support the type of media??
[11:49] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Ehhh, boot cd in actuallity, but it shouldn't make a difference.  Basically I'll need the boot cd to to load a working kernel which can then do a few things (specifically, load drivers and detect, but I don't want to overcomplicate) before switching root over to a target device.  An overly complex precedure in a case where a grub boot disk won't suffice.  :)
[11:49] <owner> i can start fluxbox dooglus
[11:50] <agent_bob> my apt is completely hosed !
[11:50] <ilba7r> aemccoy, lol seems you can not run the patent codecs am looking right now for alternatives for you
[11:50] <aemccoy> yes
[11:50] <ssam> agent_bob, have you tried "sudo apt-get update" ?
[11:50] <owner> ok ill try that brb
[11:50] <aemccoy> when I downloaded them it I couldn't support them for some reason
[11:50] <agent_bob> all it will do is loop through configuring linux-image-386  and error out.
[11:51] <aemccoy> let me try again what is the page?
[11:51] <agent_bob> anybody know how to fix apt ?
[11:55] <ilba7r> aemccoy ok vlc will run most media files for you and thre is mozilla-plugin-vlc
[11:56] <aemccoy> I am unaware of how to use a plugin : my initial question of the night
[11:56] <aemccoy> I have vlc
[11:57] <aemccoy> I am using beep media for my music
[11:57] <aemccoy> will that run video?
[11:57] <crimsun> no
[11:57] <aemccoy> ok
[11:57] <aemccoy> vlc will though
[11:57] <ilba7r> aemccoy you just install it mozilla-plygin-vlc
[11:58] <aemccoy> in my terminal?
[11:58] <ilba7r> crimsun i have vlc installed and i watch vedio on it?
[11:58] <ilba7r> sudo aptitude install mozilla-plygin-vlc
[11:58] <crimsun> ilba7r: aemccoy asked about b-m-p, not vlc
[11:58] <aldarsior> Hi, I have a little program that I wrote and I would like for it to run on startup in my home directory. Is that possible?
[11:59] <ilba7r> crimsun, sorry miscommunication
[11:59] <crimsun> np
[11:59] <orion>  aldarsior wich disttro ?
[12:00] <orion> aldarsior just  wanna make sure lol
[12:00] <aemccoy> is it really supposed to be plygin?
[12:01] <ilba7r> aemccoy, ?
[12:02] <aemccoy> sorry I am so dificult I just break things I totally messed up my windows opp system so my brother isntalled this he said it would be hard to mess up
[12:02] <aldarsior> aemccoy: that's a lie.
[12:02] <ilba7r> aemccoy, after installing the plugin close all firefox than open it again
[12:02] <aemccoy> oh you put earlier sudo aptitude install mozilla-plygin-vlc
[12:02] <aemccoy> yeah I am finding that out
[12:03] <aemccoy> is it plugin
[12:03] <aemccoy> or plygin
[12:03] <ilba7r> plugin
[12:03] <orion> aldarsior: if you shut down your computer with the application opened it should automatically reopen it on next start up
[12:03] <ompaul> aemccoy, if you used it for reading about lots of things like ohhh how not to mess up maybe you would have a better time rather than doing stuff you know to be risky :-)
[12:03] <aldarsior> orion: what if I don't have X installed?
[12:03] <aldarsior> (server install)
[12:04] <orion> aldarsior: ok gimme a sec pplease
[12:04] <aemccoy> I just want to use the internet I am not code savvy
[12:05] <aemccoy> I am trying to learn enough to sustain right now and I am thick as hel
[12:05] <jono> hi all
[12:05] <jono> how long does sudo last without asking for your password again?
[12:05] <aemccoy> so I got some error it says unable to lock the administration directory
[12:05] <ilba7r> aemccoy, he should have set it up for you than.
[12:06] <aemccoy> is another process using it
[12:06] <aemccoy> what does that mean
[12:06] <aemccoy> he tried
[12:06] <aemccoy> well did
[12:06] <ilba7r> aemccoy, do you have synaptic opened. if so close it
[12:06] <orion> aldarsior: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-100517.html
[12:06] <lanjelot> does anyone know what's the gam_server and gamin stuff ?
[12:06] <aemccoy> but I oh yes he told me not to do that
[12:06] <ssam> jono, a few mins
[12:06] <aemccoy> I did it anyway
[12:06] <ssam> jono, can't remember how many
[12:06] <aldarsior> orion: thanks a bunch
[12:07] <orion> aldarsior: cant promiss it will work but give it a try
[12:07] <aemccoy> ilba7r much more success this time
[12:07] <ilba7r> :)
[12:08] <aemccoy> so I did the plugin thing now it should work?
[12:08] <ilba7r> hopefully
[12:09] <miky> i can't burn cd's with gnomebaker
[12:09] <GigaByte_> hi
[12:09] <ilba7r> miky, i prefer k3b
[12:09] <GigaByte_> ubuntu be spport the cpu?
[12:10] <talios> hrm - for some reason ubuntus given me a read-only filesystem all of a sudden
[12:10] <crimsun> talios: you know the drill. dmesg
[12:10] <ajmitch> talios: usually the disk is going south by then
[12:11] <talios> crap - can
[12:11] <aemccoy> the app that I used the plugin for does it support wmv?
[12:11] <talios> can't open firefox to post to nopaste :p
[12:11] <miky> ilba7r, where do i get it synaptic?
[12:11] <crimsun> aemccoy: certain wmvs, yes
[12:11] <ssam> jono, 15mins according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[12:11] <ilba7r> miky, yap
[12:12] <aemccoy> I am still having trouble
[12:12] <ilba7r> aemccoy, did you try it?
[12:12] <crimsun> talios: thankfully there's ``wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin''
[12:12] <jono> ssam, thanks :)
[12:13] <ssam> jono did i hear that you will be in manchester soon
[12:13] <aemccoy> yes
[12:13] <jono> ssam, yep, I am there on Saturday :)
[12:13] <aemccoy> I went to video samples page
[12:13] <jono> ssam, doing a talk at ManLUG :)
[12:14] <ssam> jono cool, what about
[12:15] <talios> crimsun, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7251
[12:15] <ilba7r> aemccoy, it should play wmv
[12:15] <talios> mmm, might need a bit more
[12:15] <crimsun> talios: looks nasty. Got a live cd handy?
[12:15] <talios> crimsun, mmm, only  dapper 2
[12:16] <olicat> anyone know if it's possible to use a shell script to comment out parts of a file, and write something else into it on the following lines
[12:16] <olicat> ?
[12:16] <ilba7r> !cml
[12:16] <ubotu> ilba7r: Syntax error in line 1
[12:16] <crimsun> talios: should be good enough. Reboot into the live cd and e2fsck -Cf /dev/hda5
[12:16] <Marlun> Anyone know where I can get a script (that I can put int /etc/init.d/ that starts apache 2.0.55 automaticly when booting? I've installed apache from source-code so no, theres not allready a apache or httpd file in init.d/.
[12:16] <agent_bob> what's the url for universe on hoary ?
[12:16] <aemccoy> I don't have a default anymore though when I go to watch it it wants me to save it to my disk and I don't want to do that
[12:16] <aemccoy> I don't really delete stuff
[12:17] <aemccoy> but if I go to play with and browse I don't know where to find any of the media players
[12:17] <talios> crimsun, right - here goes - back soon all being well :)
[12:17] <aemccoy> I mean what file
[12:17] <aemccoy> where to look
[12:17] <ilba7r> aemccoy, sorry can not help you more you might ask your broth to set it up for you
[12:17] <miky> ilba7r, it says it's kde will it work in ubuntu?
[12:17] <aemccoy> yes
[12:17] <ilba7r> miky, yes
[12:18] <aemccoy> I will give up goood idea
[12:18] <miky> it's quite large
[12:18] <aemccoy> thank you for all of your help though
[12:18] <ilba7r> welcomed :)
[12:18] <agent_bob> sources.list hoary universe ?    anybody know the url or where to find it ?
[12:18] <ilba7r> !repos
[12:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:19] <ilba7r> agent_bob, follow ubotu link
[12:19] <agent_bob> ilba7r which one ?
[12:19] <Okys> hello all
[12:19] <ilba7r> agent_bob, the first one. also see easysource
[12:19] <ilba7r> !easysource
[12:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:19] <mobidirk> agent_bob change breezy or warthy in your /etc/apt/sources.list into hoary.
[12:20] <agent_bob> there is no breezy or warty in my sources list.
[12:20] <ilba7r> agent_bob, which distro are you usig then
[12:20] <mobidirk> Which version do you use?
[12:20] <agent_bob> hoary
[12:21] <ilba7r> agent_bob, and what you want to do to your source list
[12:21] <agent_bob> add universe/multiverse
[12:21] <mobidirk> Just a moment.
[12:22] <ilba7r> agent_bob, open the file using sudo and uncomment the lines or follow ubotu easysource
[12:22] <agent_bob> i see what you are saying tho.  i can use the breezy list and change breezy to hoary.
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, That's right.
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> Fergy, What's going on with you?
[12:22] <ilba7r> agent_bob, do you want to upgrade?
[12:22] <agent_bob> my sources.lst is blank.  that's why i was looking for one....
[12:23] <agent_bob> no
[12:23] <mobidirk> deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary-security universe
[12:23] <mobidirk>  deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[12:23] <Ng> !sources
[12:23] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[12:23] <Ng> agent_bob: ^^
[12:24] <agent_bob> well it looks like i may get this installed by quiting time....  yes thanks.
[12:24] <ilba7r> agent_bob, use easy source it will generate it much easy for you
[12:24] <Okys> is there a common problem with getting wireless networks to happen?
[12:26] <aemccoy> thank all of you for you efforts goodnight
[12:26] <owner> i went back to the ubuntu 2.6.12 kernel
[12:26] <owner> 2.6.15 broke gnome
[12:27] <owner> dunno why
[12:27] <mobidirk> agent_bob It`s better to upgrade. Just wait until the Dapper Drake come`s out.
[12:27] <poopette> hello everybody, I need help
[12:27] <Ng> owner: you need to be a bit careful with custom kernels - there are some patches applied to the ubuntu ones that userspace will depend on
[12:27] <agent_bob> and why pray tell is it better to upgrade ?
[12:28] <Ng> owner: see the linux-patch-ubuntu-2.6.12 package for the ones that are applied for breezy, or the 2.6.15 equivalent if you're running dapper
[12:28] <poopette> could someone check this font on this webpage and say me if the font are ok ?
[12:28] <agent_bob> is the release i have not 'good'
[12:28] <Ng> agent_bob: they're all good, but they get better with every release :)
[12:28] <agent_bob> mobidirk ?
[12:28] <poopette> URL http://www.lannexe-restobar.be/03/index3.php
[12:28] <Abecedarian> dooglus:  Not sure if you're still here, but I wanted to thank you for telling me a little bit about kernel updates.  I hadn't been certain about whether they also installed other files, so knowing that modules might also be installed/updated is a good thing for me to be warned about!
[12:29] <ilba7r> agent_bob, if you do not care about having the latest gadget or eyecandy if your system work and you like it as is then no need to upgrade
[12:29] <mobidirk> agent_bob Hoary is allright, but some things are going better with breezy and so on
[12:30] <poopette> could someone check the 04font00 on this webpage and say me if the font are ok ?
[12:30] <poopette> URL http://www.lannexe-restobar.be/03/index3.php
[12:30] <poopette> sorry to be redundant...
[12:31] <Seveas> poopette, horribly offtopic, ask somewhere else...
[12:31] <ilba7r> on the other hand to upgrade to dapper you need to upgrade to breezy first than upgrade to dapper
[12:31] <poopette> ok so where ?
[12:31] <Seveas> dunno, but not in here
[12:31] <agent_bob> eye candy.  hehhe  console only!   and i doubt that there is any improvement for console only on dapper
[12:31] <poopette> ok sorry seveas
[12:32] <mjose> jslkfj
[12:32] <mjose> lkdjf
[12:32] <mjose> lskjdfkl
[12:32] <mjose> lkdjfld
[12:33] <talios> crimsun, and we're back....
[12:33] <crimsun> talios: in live cd or normal install?
[12:33] <poopette> please, where can I found a channel with webdevelopment as topic ?
[12:34] <Seveas> #html perhaps
[12:34] <olicat> anyone know how to test if $VARIABLE is equal to a certain string in bash?
[12:34] <talios> crimsun, normal install - e2fsck fixed up a shitload of dangling inodes and messed up shit :(
[12:34] <poopette> thanks!
[12:34] <Seveas> olicat, test $VARIABLE == "bla"
[12:34] <Ng> owner: if [ "$SOMEVAR" = "sometext" ]  ; then echo "they are the same; fi
[12:34] <crimsun> talios: ah.
[12:34] <Ng> s/owner/olicat/
[12:35] <olicat> cheers Seveas, Bg
[12:35] <olicat> Ng
[12:35] <agent_bob> olicat [ "$VARIABLE" == "bla" ]  && echo yes
[12:36] <talios> crimsun, still - it iterates in my mind thats its time to look at new hardware;p
[12:36] <taomaster> how do i update to the newest release?
[12:37] <bimberi> !breezy
[12:37] <taomaster> or just update the kernel
[12:37] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[12:37] <taomaster> ok thanx
[12:37] <bimberi> taomaster: np
[12:38] <talios> crimsun, hows dapper looking these days?  i've been meaning to check it out..
[12:38] <gnomefreak> broken :)
[12:38] <talios> heh
[12:39] <olicat> hmm, cant seem to get it working: if [ test $POSTGRES_VERSION == "postgresql-7.4.*" ] ; then echo "Hello World" ; fi  - that gives me 'too many arguments' error
[12:39] <[Kismet] > Hi All! Anyone know a context aware diff program?
[12:40] <Ng> olicat: 7.4.*? that's not going to work ;)
[12:40] <olicat> Ng, damn
[12:40] <Ng> olicat: also your syntax is a bit mixed up there
[12:40] <olicat> i need to check for any 7.4 version
[12:41] <penguinzdr> how can i create a shortcut to my home folder on my desktop?
[12:41] <olicat> penguinzdr, ln -s /home/username /home/username/Desktop
[12:41] <agent_bob> ln -s ../ home
[12:42] <agent_bob> Desktop will probably exist.
[12:42] <CarinArr> ../ ?
[12:43] <xored> how to change the standard shell for a user ?
[12:43] <agent_bob> yes that assumes that you are in the Desktop at the time.
[12:43] <agent_bob> usermod
[12:43] <hikenboot> how would i edit a .deb package?
[12:43] <olicat> Ng, ok i've got the syntax working now :) cheers
[12:43] <olicat> Ng, still can't get it to check for *'s tho
[12:44] <hikenboot> I get the following error  trying to overwrite `/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/modules.alias', which is also in package linux-image-2.6.12-9-386
[12:44] <Ng> olicat: you could feed it through sed to cut off anything after postgres-7.4. so then you can just compare against that and don't need to care about the minor version
[12:44] <Jemt> Hi. Is it possible to create network profiles in Ubuntu? I use my laptop at school and when I'm home. I have tried the "Location" function under Networking, but that dosn't work. The settings are the same on all profiles.
[12:44] <crimsun> talios: check out Flight 3 live cd
[12:45] <penguinzdr> oic, there's a home icon option in gconf
[12:45] <talios> crimsun, i'm slowly torrenting it at work currently
[12:45] <talios> so will check that once its done :)
[12:45] <crimsun> talios: excellent :)
[12:45] <crimsun> talios: hey, if you have a sec, /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[12:45] <talios> but right now I think I must head to bed - 00:46 here :)
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> going away to eat something i ll be back latter
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> see you all
[12:46] <talios> crimsun, i'm there...
[12:47] <ilba7r> Jemt, try network manager
[12:47] <ilba7r> !tell Jemt about networkmanager
[12:48] <highvoltage> hi. why would apt give me a message like this:
[12:48] <highvoltage> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/main/o/openoffice.org2/ttf-opensymbol_2.0.1-0ubuntu3_all.deb  Bad header line [IP: 82.211.81.151 80] 
[12:48] <Jemt> ilba7r: Thanks, I'll check it out :)
[12:48] <spo0nman> Is there a place where I can get ubuntu posters?
[12:48] <owner> lol spo0n
[12:48] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ubuntu posters?
[12:48] <ilba7r> Jemt, ur welcomed :)
[12:48] <owner> trying to spread the word
[12:48] <spo0nman> Mark Shuttleworth is visiting so I thought we should get some ubuntu posters up ...
[12:49] <s_spiff{AWAY}> ohh ok.
[12:49] <spo0nman> owner: :-|
[12:51] <spo0nman> no posters at all?
[12:51] <anandaputra> hi all..
[12:51] <owner> http://www.lx-networks.de/sticker.php ubuntu stickers
[12:52] <owner> sp00n i found this
[12:52] <owner> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DIYMarketing
[12:52] <anandaputra> i need to talk to canonical team which involve in Asia Business Tour.. where i could find them?
[12:52] <owner> that looks like what you want
[12:52] <Jemt> network-manager looks great - but if someone know of a manually network-switching tool (profile system), I would be very interested. I use my laptop for many purposes - ie support, LAN parties (organizer) etc. Would be great if I could add a new profil for each task.
[12:53] <grantashman> Hey guys, I'm looking for help in regards to permissions for my Mp3 player. I seem to have lost write permissions, for both mine and root account.
[12:53] <grantashman> In properties I get Text View: drwx------
[12:53] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know of network profiles bugs will be fixed in Dapper?
[12:53] <spo0nman> owner: thanks.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}> guys any reccomendation as to which *box to use? Im using Openbox but since have no knowledge of XML, cant mess around with it... just downloaded flux box... will check it out what to do.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}>  so any suggestions befor i begin?
[12:54] <owner> np
[12:54] <grantashman> Is anyone able to help me, get back my write permissions, it's very important.
[12:54] <s_spiff{AWAY}> brb
[12:55] <Jemt> s_spiff{AWAY}: I can indeed recommend Fluxbox. Great WM - easy to customize - but you will probably need to do a little reading. Try google - don't have my links with me today :)
[12:55] <owner> grantashman chmod 666
[12:55] <grantashman> owner - followed by path to the drive?
[12:56] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 666 /media/GRANT\ H300/
[12:56] <grantashman> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/GRANT H300/': Read-only file system
[12:56] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$
[12:57] <grantashman> Doesn't this mean it is now a read-only file system?
[12:57] <owner> you have to sudo chmod 666
[12:57] <owner> or sudo chmod 777
[12:57] <grantashman> i did sudo chmod 666
[12:57] <owner> ok
[12:58] <s_spiff> back...tried fluxbox...freaked the crap outta me !
[12:58] <owner> you can also try chown -R user:user
[12:58] <owner> user being your username
[12:58] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$ sudo chmod 777 /media/GRANT\ H300/
[12:58] <grantashman> chmod: changing permissions of `/media/GRANT H300/': Read-only file system
[12:58] <grantashman> grant@ubuntu:~$
[12:58] <CarinArr> s_spiff, why;)
[12:58] <grantashman> owner, says the same thing.
[12:58] <owner> grant is that an ntfs drive?
[12:58] <CarinArr> s_spiff, it doesn't look like much before you configure it the way you want it
[12:58] <s_spiff>  well how do u configure it?
[12:58] <owner> s_spiff, you have to setup the menus
[12:59] <s_spiff>  is there a way to blend it into gnome like openbox?
[12:59] <grantashman> FAT32, it has worked fine for over six months now.
[12:59] <CarinArr> s_spiff, have a look at fluxbox.org
[12:59] <CarinArr> s_spiff, there really isn't any point in using fluxbox if you want it to blend into gnome
[12:59] <grantashman> Doesn't seem to do anything?
[01:00] <CarinArr> fluxbox definitely isn't great if you're looking for stuff to come to you completely pre-configured;) i love it though
[01:00] <owner> grant you have to edit fstab
[01:00] <s_spiff> CarinArr, umm yeah.. can say so.. but atleast in the begining.. because.. i'm sure it'll take me some time to learn how to tweak it.. and hence befor i do learn, i was thinking if i could do that
[01:00] <owner> s_spiff https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Fluxbox
[01:00] <grantashman> Why? how did this happen suddenly?
[01:01] <owner> and http://nix-dev.dudcore.net/HOWTO/UbuntuFlux
[01:01] <owner> those are good guides
[01:01] <s_spiff> owner, thanks...
[01:01] <owner> grant you have to edit /etc/fstab
[01:01] <grantashman> I'm getting -r-r-r- as my permissions now :S
[01:02] <owner> because it is mounting it as read only
[01:02] <s_spiff> ok..any links for Openbox..except for the wiki?
[01:02] <owner> openbox is more minimalistic than fluxbox
[01:02] <owner> no taskbar
[01:03] <xored> how to change foreground/background in xterm ?
[01:03] <grantashman> Owner - there does not seem to be any mention of it in fstab?
[01:04] <owner> grant it should be something like this #
[01:04] <owner> sudo mount /dev/hda1 /media/windows/ -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[01:04] <tonyyarusso> Any ideas why it would take a long time to swith to a virtual terminal?  Ctrl-Alt-F2 has a few seconds lag before anything happens.  Coming back to 7 is fine though.
[01:04] <owner> in etc/fstab
[01:04] <s_spiff> hey CarinArr I checked out the fluxbox.org..the latest release for debian is .9.14 and ubuntu synaptic is offering .12... any way to upgrade?
[01:04] <grantashman> Yeah, I don't see any of that, only my 2 hdd, cdrom, proc and floppy
[01:05] <owner> grant you have to unmount that partition and remount it as read write
[01:06] <j2daosh> hey... is there a way to connect to 2 rooms on startup? like ubuntu and ubuntu-offtopic?
[01:06] <grantashman> how will I do that owner?
[01:06] <grantashman> mind if I pm you?
[01:06] <j2daosh> grantashman, sudo umount whatever
[01:06] <owner> ok
[01:07] <Decadent> is there a program or a plug in for xmms such as the library that winamp has in order to find easily media??
[01:07] <owner> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[01:07] <owner> check out section 5.2 grant
[01:08] <mtlife> why is my sound working for like 15 minutes, and then it just suddenly stops working
[01:08] <owner> you just have to find the name of your fat32 partition
[01:08] <owner> in the guide it is hda1
[01:08] <owner> but it could be any number
[01:09] <grantashman> owner, after this will I not be able to mount/unmount automatically and from the desktop icons?
[01:09] <owner> im sure you can grant
[01:09] <grantashman> ok thanks :)
[01:09] <owner> because i mounted an ntfs partition like that and it shows up on my desktop
[01:09] <grantashman> see what I can do.
[01:10] <j2daosh> i mounted my windows part on the desktop... mounted my windows network part on the desktop too..
[01:12] <mtlife> can i get some help here on sound trouble?
[01:12] <crimsun> mtlife: in ubuntu? sure.
[01:13] <mtlife> crimsun: when i boot, my sound works although quality is very bad.. much noise in the sound and the base is crispy.. and after it played a few sounds it just stops working
[01:14] <grantashman> owner, it appears as if my problem is solved.
[01:14] <grantashman> thankyou very much
[01:15] <owner> np
[01:15] <crimsun> mtlife: pastebin the output from the following commands: cat /proc/asound/cards && amixer
[01:15] <grantashman> no wait, it still mounts again at /media/GRANT H300 with read only permissions.
[01:16] <owner> mtlife follow this guide http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=happy+alsa
[01:16] <grantashman> how can I totally stop it mounting at this location and make a new location for it to mount?
[01:16] <owner> grant instead of /media/windows/
[01:16] <owner> you can make a new location
[01:16] <thx> hi guys =) Can you help me with playing mp3 music... (sorry for my bad eng, i'm from russia)
[01:16] <owner> and mount anywhere you like
[01:17] <ssam> !mp3
[01:17] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[01:17] <mtlife> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7252
[01:17] <grantashman> yes, but upon re-plugging in the device it mounts at it's old location with read only permissions and not my new location.
[01:17] <thx> thanks
[01:18] <herder_> hi, has anyone been able to install arla-modules on 5.10?
[01:19] <NiklasH_work> hi, has anyone been able to install arla on 5.10?
[01:20] <thx> another question... can i install packages for debian? Without downloading them from i-net by using Synaptic
[01:22] <TauReX> so I've started getting an error that my filesystem is read-only and can't do anything, can't login either
[01:22] <TauReX> does that mean my hdd is fried?
[01:22] <TauReX> or nearly fried :/
[01:27] <nbound> hmmm quiet tonight....
[01:28] <nbound> almost too quiet....
[01:28] <nbound> where is everyone?
[01:29] <PiedPiper> lol
[01:29] <nbound> lol?
[01:29] <nbound> i was gone for 2 secs and i miss something =/
[01:30] <mikul> is there any other good grafical dc++ clients exept for valknut?
[01:30] <olicat> is it possible to request user input from within a shell script?
[01:30] <nbound> OMG, a question, more.. more... - and i dont know the answer to any
[01:30] <nbound> =(
[01:31] <crimsun> mtlife: please decrease the levels of 'Master' and 'PCM' to below 80%
[01:31] <lockhead> olicat, http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[01:32] <nbound> is it me or am i not receiving half the banter?
[01:32] <PiedPiper> lol
[01:33] <dutch> it's you !
[01:33] <PiedPiper> u dun c the caht nbound?
[01:33] <rambo3> Since GParted can be a weapon of mass destruction only root may run it. Who makes these warnings in KDE?
[01:33] <PiedPiper> chat*
[01:33] <nbound> PiedPiper, yeah i see the chat, but this channel is slower than molasses tonight
[01:33] <nbound> which is weird
[01:33] <nbound> coz its usually full of noobs
[01:34] <dutch> i resent that !
[01:34] <crimsun> it's ok, james, I got your back
[01:34] <dutch> thanks daniel :)
[01:34] <nbound> rambo3, i dont need to be root or sudo to run it. ill just check anyway
[01:34] <crimsun> np :)
[01:34] <owner> i got the best sound quality by downloading and installing the latest drivers from the alsa site
[01:34] <Sp4rKy> hi
[01:34] <dutch> and qparted is a dangerous thing to turn loose on the unsuspecting :(
[01:34] <nbound> rambo3, heh yeah i do =(
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> i've an issue with my intel video card
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> the DirectRendering can't be loaded
[01:35] <nbound> dutch, is qparted == Gparted?
[01:35] <dutch> nbound: close enough to screw me up  :)
[01:35] <rambo3> well my point was in warning massage anyway. whats next terminal is a part of liberal media
[01:35] <Sp4rKy> and i've many errors messages like :drmOpenDevice: node name is /dev/dri/card0
[01:35] <nbound> dutch, didnt think so :p
[01:35] <dutch> I believe it's gparted or qtparted
[01:35] <piotrek> hello, i've got a question(problem) i need to use python-commandsplus, python-extattr, python-Observable, python-amarok, songanalysis - can U tell me what extra repositories i have to add?
[01:36] <nbound> Sp4rKy, get an ati or nvidia card =P
[01:36] <Sp4rKy> nbound, no, thx, it's a laptop dell inspiron 1150
[01:36] <nbound> piotrek, u can download source from a site and compile it
[01:36] <PiedPiper> get a decent laptop :p
[01:37] <nbound> Sp4rKy, thats gotta suck
[01:37] <nbound> Sp4rKy, afaik most of the video work in linux is done for nv/ati coz they are the most popular brands... maybe try drivers from intel if they supply them
[01:38] <owner> there are working intel drivers for linux
[01:38] <PiedPiper> ya, leap ahead !
[01:39] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've reconfigure xserver-xorg with i810 driver and it seems to be ok, the drm module is loaded but i've the previous error and the direct rendering isn't loaded
[01:40] <nbound> Sp4rKy, the driver itself should automatically configure ur xorg, or there should be a guide, have you followed them or just changed driver name?
[01:40] <rambo3> anyway i have problem with making bootable dos partition in gparted. i ususaly make i fat partition where win 95 can be , but now do i need noot flag pr something that i can access when booting with floppy disk so i can change to C:\
[01:40] <Sp4rKy> nbound, how can i change the driver name ?
[01:40] <rambo3> noot =boot
[01:41] <PiedPiper> win95 rambo?
[01:41] <Sp4rKy> nbound, my card is a Intel 82852/855GM and the driver i810 should be good
[01:41] <rambo3> best operating system ever
[01:41] <nbound> Sp4rKy, theres a bit in the vid section called driver, lol, but u dont want to just changed that coz it will cause probs
[01:41] <PiedPiper> heh
[01:42] <nbound> Sp4rKy, u should follow the guide which came with ur driver
[01:42] <nbound> to anyone, does the nvtv package work with all nv cards and driver revisions?
[01:42] <Sp4rKy> nbound, where could i find it ?
[01:43] <nbound> Sp4rKy, intel site, or in the driver package youve dloaded
[01:44] <Sp4rKy> nbound, ok, i search it
[01:44] <nbound> Sp4rKy, you have dloaded the drivers from intel havent you?
[01:45] <Sp4rKy> notsteve, i've use the xserver-xorg-driver-i810 from packages
[01:45] <nbound> Sp4rKy, hmmm
[01:46] <katie_> /join #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <nbound> Sp4rKy, ill check the intel site
[01:46] <Sp4rKy> nbound, do you think it exist another driver ?
[01:47] <nbound> Sp4rKy, i hope so... anyway one from intel will be better than that one, which should have been autodetected
[01:48] <Sp4rKy> i check ...
[01:48] <Eghie_Work> Does someone know, why debmirror is not downloading the "/dists/breezy/main/debian-installer" folder?
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> i use debmirror to mirror the ubuntu repository
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> only for breezy
[01:49] <Eghie_Work> and only for i386 arch
[01:50] <nbound> Sp4rKy, hmmm only rpms... and im not sure if something like that would still work with ubuntu after being changed to a deb
[01:51] <nbound> http://support.intel.com/support/graphics/linux/index.htm < Sp4rKy read that, from now on ur on ur own, ive lno experience with intel vid drivers for linux
[01:51] <mtlife> crimsun, owner: crimsun i set all the mixer settings to 80%... and owner, i followed your guide.. doesnt fix things.. tried to play a cd only the first 2 secs played and then the sound was gone once again
[01:51] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've found source
[01:52] <owner> mtlife did you try killall esd in a terminal
[01:52] <owner> change audio output to alsa
[01:52] <owner> in your media players
[01:52] <mtlife> gonna try now
[01:52] <nbound> Sp4rKy, compile it and see if it works... if u dont know how, im not gonna teach you coz im way too tired, lol
[01:53] <nbound> Sp4rKy, if u cant get em goin eventually just use vesa its not THAT bad... just no OpenGL afaik
[01:53] <Sp4rKy> ok thx
[01:53] <Sp4rKy> i'll try
[01:55] <mtlife> hmm killall esd seems to be working
[01:55] <owner> ya
[01:55] <owner> esd hogs the sound output
[01:56] <mtlife> is there a fix for esd?
[01:56] <nbound> owner, use alsa or oss
[01:56] <owner> if you followed the guide i posted
[01:56] <owner> it should set esd not to spawn on startup
[01:56] <owner> but only when needed
[01:56] <mtlife> followed it.. so i still can use esd?
[01:56] <owner> yes
[01:56] <owner> but alsa is better
[01:57] <owner> you should be able to play multiple alsa streams at the same time
[01:57] <mtlife> yeah but alsa cant mix from more sources am i correct?
[01:57] <owner> yes it can
[01:57] <mtlife> :o didnt know that
[01:57] <mtlife> :)
[01:57] <owner> i can open up 5 different media players at the same time
[01:57] <owner> alsa mixes really well
[01:57] <nbound> heh with oss i can only listen to one thing at once =/
[01:58] <mchasard> could i get the adress to complete the source .list in order to get opera
[01:58] <owner> yeah oss doesnt mix well
[01:58] <mchasard> i didn't remember where to get it
[01:58] <nbound> but works best with wine from what ive tested
[01:58] <nbound> so thats why i use it
[01:58] <owner> a lot of games still use oss
[01:58] <mtlife> i can open 3 players then my sound starts to fail buffering :p (old pc's gotta love m)
[01:58] <owner> you can setup alsa oss emulation
[01:58] <nbound> hmmm
[01:58] <owner> apt-get install alsa-oss
[01:58] <owner> or something
[01:58] <nbound> yeah ive seen that package
[01:59] <nbound> does it actually work well though?
[01:59] <mtlife> and that adds oss compliance?
[01:59] <owner> it does
[01:59] <nbound> mtlife, yep
[01:59] <owner> but i had to load some modules otherwise i didnt have a /dev/dsp
[01:59] <nbound> hmmm alsa time =D
[01:59] <nbound> owner yeah thats my prob too
[02:00] <nbound> i dont have /dev/dsp
[02:00] <owner> nbound i had a link that fixed it perfectly
[02:00] <owner> let me look
[02:00] <mchasard> please which adress may i have to add to source .list
[02:00] <nbound> owner, thx
[02:00] <_jason> I use aoss with firefox (for flash sound) and if I close a flash window while something with sound is still playing it tends to hang firefox indefintely.  Could this be my alsa setup or is it just crappy flash code?
[02:00] <nbound> mchasard, to do what?
[02:00] <mchasard> to get opera
[02:00] <owner> nbound  modprobe snd-hda-intel;modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[02:01] <owner> http://www.alsa-project.org/alsa-doc/doc-php/template.php?module=hda-intel
[02:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell mchasard about easysource
[02:01] <nbound> mchasard, just use one of the plentiful other browsers, opera isnt THAT good
[02:01] <mtlife> opera mouse gestures owns :)
[02:01] <owner> but i have an intel HDA, not sure about you nbound, but the other modules should work
[02:01] <lowman62> anyone in here ever use dban?
[02:01] <nbound> owner, nvidia sound here
[02:01] <_jason> ubotu, tell mchasard about opera
[02:02] <_jason> mchasard, I don't use opera but you'll want to read that info ubotu sent you
[02:02] <owner> nbound try this modprobe snd-pcm-oss;modprobe snd-mixer-oss;modprobe snd-seq-oss
[02:02] <owner> see if it creates a dev/dsp
[02:02] <mchasard> this morning some guy gave me the adress and i get opera
[02:02] <mchasard> i forgot this adress
[02:02] <_jason> mchasard, check your priv msg
[02:02] <mtlife> owner; it says that alsa-oss is obsolete, or replaced by an other package
[02:02] <mchasard> so i know that theres a repository for opera
[02:03] <mtlife> do you know the name?
[02:03] <mchasard> but i have to add the good adress
[02:03] <_jason> mchasard, did you check your priv msg??
[02:03] <mchasard> yes
[02:03] <dutch> ubotu replies via PM ?
[02:03] <ubotu> dutch: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:03] <_jason> mchasard, and did you find the opera repo?
[02:03] <owner> thats weird mtlife
[02:03] <owner> it shows up in my synaptic
[02:04] <owner> did you do sudo apt-get install alsa-oss
[02:04] <mtlife> yes
[02:04] <mchasard> no
[02:04] <mtlife> mayb i need another source or something
[02:05] <mtlife> package alsa-oss had no installation candidate
[02:05] <mtlife> or whatever
[02:05] <mtlife> has*
[02:06] <owner> try sudo apt-get update
[02:06] <owner> then try
[02:06] <owner> are you using breezy?
[02:06] <mtlife> did that, and then tried again.. same
[02:06] <mtlife> using 5.10, thats breezy right?
[02:06] <owner> yes
[02:06] <Sp4rKy> nbound, it seems to doesn't work
[02:07] <nbound> Sp4rKy, just use vesa drivers then
[02:07] <Sp4rKy> yes but it's not really good to game
[02:08] <nbound> Sp4rKy, try googling it i cant help much, hell ive never even used intel graphics
[02:08] <mtlife> owner where does alsa-oss show up in aptitude?
[02:08] <mtlife> let me check mine
[02:08] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i've found nothing with google
[02:09] <Sp4rKy> thx
[02:09] <owner> in synaptic i just did a search for alsa-oss
[02:09] <owner> its there
[02:09] <owner> sp4ky which intel video onboard do you have
[02:12] <cRd_x> hi there, got an error while compiling 'TekNap'. something with 'havetputs=..."
[02:12] <dodobrain> hi all
[02:12] <dodobrain> if i want to install kde on ubuntu, what do i have to do?
[02:13] <cRd_x> hrm
[02:13] <cRd_x> someone's awake?
[02:13] <cRd_x> :)
[02:13] <owner> sudo apt-get install kde
[02:13] <_jason> dodobrain, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:13] <orion_fr_24> Hi I need proftpd expert
[02:13] <rixth> How can I find out where my CD writer is attached?
[02:13] <dopf> hi, someone experienced with 5.10 & sata2 - im unable to install
[02:13] <rixth> /dev/X?
[02:13] <cRd_x> lol
[02:13] <mtlife> doesnt show up in my aptitude
[02:14] <cRd_x> maybe a specialist there for a query?
[02:14] <mtlife> what are your links in your apt config?
[02:14] <cRd_x> ^^
[02:14] <orion_fr_24> anywone for proftpd issues ????
[02:14] <dodobrain> can i download the kubuntu-desktop files (debs) and have them locally on cdrom
[02:14] <dodobrain> i want to install it on a machine with no net connection
[02:14] <owner> mtlife i used http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[02:15] <owner> to generate my sources.list file
[02:15] <_jason> dodobrain, you may want to try asking in #kubuntu but I *think* you may be able to burn the kubuntu iso and use that as the source for the .deb's
[02:15] <cRd_x> could someone help me with this error please?
[02:15] <cRd_x> configure: line 5414: syntax error near unexpected token `then'
[02:15] <owner> ok crd
[02:16] <cRd_x> configure: line 5414: `       havetputs=1 if test "${ac_cv_header_term_h+set}" = set; then'
[02:16] <orion_fr_24> anywone for proftpd issues ????
[02:16] <cRd_x> --
[02:16] <cRd_x> thats all
[02:16] <owner> you are trying to compile something
[02:16] <_jason> cRd_x, are you writing this?
[02:16] <cRd_x> seems like a lib is missing
[02:16] <cRd_x> no
[02:16] <cRd_x> TekNap is a console-client for OpenNap
[02:16] <_jason> seems like a syntax error :P
[02:16] <cRd_x> lol
[02:16] <cRd_x> yes
[02:17] <cRd_x> but i think not really
[02:17] <dodobrain> _jason, ok, i'll ask there
[02:17] <owner> you have to configure, then make, then install
[02:17] <dopf> hi, someone experienced with 5.10 & sata2?
[02:17] <cRd_x> i've compiled the same on a debian-system
[02:17] <cRd_x> the same tar.gz ...
[02:17] <cRd_x> was debian sarge i386
[02:17] <cRd_x> this is a x64
[02:17] <orion_fr_24> CAN ANYBODY help me with proftpd
[02:17] <cRd_x> could this maybe the problem?
[02:18] <_jason> ubotu, tell orion_fr_24 about patience
[02:18] <cRd_x> i have no idea what is missing
[02:18] <_jason> cRd_x, what is it?  I'll try to compile it here on 386
[02:18] <owner> a lot of things arent compatible with x64
[02:19] <cRd_x> i have installed kubuntu as server
[02:19] <cRd_x> it's TekNap
[02:19] <cRd_x> i could upload it, if you don't find it for download
[02:19] <seejay> can anyone help me with a java applet development question? Its very simple
[02:19] <lowman62> Crx_x: you are possibly missing tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> thought i had installed it
[02:19] <lowman62> Crx_x: check for tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> root@groovebox:~# whereis tput
[02:19] <cRd_x> tput: /usr/bin/tput /usr/bin/X11/tput /usr/share/man/man1/tput.1.gz
[02:20] <cRd_x> seems to be installed
[02:20] <stagger> could you give me some very short instructions how to configure suid to allow normal user to halt the computer? I know, I am lame...
[02:20] <cRd_x> pP
[02:20] <cRd_x> oO
[02:20] <lowman62> Crx_x: it would seem to be
[02:21] <cRd_x> lowman62: that's strange ... it don't works anyway
[02:21] <mtlife> i think its a community package
[02:21] <cRd_x> hm?
[02:21] <mtlife> i didnt have community packages in my sources
[02:21] <mtlife> was talking to owner sorry ;)
[02:21] <lowman62> Crx_x: what is the name of the package you are trying to install again?
[02:21] <owner> does it show up now mtlife
[02:21] <owner> you might have to import the keys for some of those sources
[02:21] <owner> otherwise it errors on sudo apt-get update
[02:22] <mtlife> will look into that, it finds it now
[02:22] <stagger> could you give me some very short instructions how to configure suid to allow normal user to halt the computer? Please, please. please!!! If you don't want answer just say that I'm an asshole....
[02:23] <mtlife> didnt give any errors with installing
[02:23] <g1m> hello there
[02:23] <_jason> cRd_x, can't find the source, if you can't figure it out let me know where I can download it and I'll give it a try
[02:24] <_jason> cRd_x, never mind, found it at http://hedemarken.org/~jnbek/teknap.php, what version are you compiling?
[02:24] <g1m> i cant get my wlan ad-hoc to work, iwconfig and ifconfig looks good, but i cant ping the 2nd machine. also the network-admin says that there is no connection on wlan0. what can i do?
[02:24] <cRd_x> tried to give you the link in a query
[02:24] <cRd_x> *gg*
[02:24] <cRd_x> 1.4
[02:24] <_jason> cRd_x, you have to be registered
[02:25] <cRd_x> yes
[02:25] <cRd_x> read it
[02:25] <cRd_x> :] 
[02:25] <cRd_x> later on ...
[02:25] <cRd_x> ^^
[02:25] <cRd_x> have uploaded it to http://ftp.crossaudio.fm/TekNap-1.4.tar.gz
[02:26] <lowman62> Crx_x: this says it is for bitchx..you have that installed as well as autoconf?
[02:26] <cRd_x> maybe it's a little security issue now with pasting the link
[02:26] <cRd_x> autoconf and BitchX are working
[02:26] <herder_> stagger, doesn't that work by default?
[02:26] <cRd_x> brb
[02:27] <lowman62> Crx_x: hmmm! dunno..hope you find your answer
[02:27] <stagger> no, I'm using Sarge
[02:27] <swistak> hey ppl, i have problem with firefox and middle mouse button
[02:28] <swistak> when i press it, it's acting strange, i suspect it's searching something in google
[02:28] <TCTCH> ---what is the best torrent-prog for ubuntu (gnome)?
[02:28] <swistak> with "feeling lucky" turned on
[02:28] <swistak> anyone know how to make it act like middle button in wondows ?
[02:28] <herder_> stagger, generally you just have to do chmod u+s /sbin/poweroff
[02:28] <stagger> herder_: is it possible to do that with simple command? Or maybe I have to do someting with that suid
[02:28] <swistak> so when i press it for example to open link in new tab, and i miss, i don't have to open page again ?
[02:28] <herder_> stagger, the command is poweroff
[02:29] <stagger> I made chmod u+x /sbin/halt and it doesn't helped
[02:29] <stagger> is it not the same??
[02:29] <herder_> stagger, u+x just lets root execute it, which doesn't help much... :)
[02:29] <mtlife> thx for helping owner :)
[02:29] <herder_> u+s sets the sticky bit on the user, which allows a normal user to run the command as root
[02:29] <obontu> hello, i'm new to ubuntu, i accdiently deleted my bottom bar, how do i bring it back?
[02:30] <stagger> herder_:  ooohh... I see... thank you very much for advice!!!! see you
[02:30] <owner> np
[02:30] <robin_> how can i use split screen in X?
[02:30] <herder_> np
[02:30] <obontu> how do i create a new bottom bar?
[02:30] <cRd_x> ree
[02:30] <cRd_x> sRy
[02:30] <cRd_x> :>
[02:30] <robin_> how can i use split screen in X?
[02:31] <cRd_x> _jason: have you tried to compile it?
[02:31] <gavcos> robin_, do you mean a split xterm?
[02:31] <_jason> obontu, right click on the top one and add new panel
[02:31] <_jason> cRd_x, yeah, I'm getting a different make error... looking into it
[02:31] <obontu> ah right
[02:31] <obontu> thanx
[02:31] <cRd_x> great
[02:32] <cRd_x> erm .. i meant: thank you!
[02:32] <cRd_x> errors are never great ....
[02:32] <alexandre> Hi guys! I have a new bluetooth mouse/keyboard set that I'm trying to use with Ubuntu. I read in the Breezy release notes that they're supposed to be supported right out of the box. I guess I'm stuck in the box because they don't work at all. Does anybody know how to make them work? Do I need to enabled something somewhere?
[02:35] <fr1ction> hi guys! which is the preferred mechanism in ubuntu to configure multiple network profiles (like, one for home/work/wireless each) with automatic detection which network you're in? apt-cache search (guessnet|divine|laptop-netconf|some-other-packages) to produce any hit.. I'm kind of stuck at this point!
[02:35] <fr1ction> don't produce a hit i mean
[02:36] <swistak> Anuyone have any expirience with working with two monitors ?
[02:37] <swistak> can you configure xwindow somehow that it'll work on two monitors, or mayby you can configure it so xwindow is on one, and console on other ?
[02:37] <_jason> cRd_x, ah ok, I get your error too when I downloaded you uploaded source.  Got a different one with the other source I downloaded...
[02:38] <alexandre> fr1ction: I believe the graphical network configuration tool, you can set up different network configurations and recall them at will.
[02:38] <idefix_> ok, what is free on linux and what is not?
[02:38] <swistak> i feel ignored
[02:38] <swistak> idefix_:  almost all is free
[02:39] <cRd_x> hrm
[02:39] <swistak> read license
[02:39] <idefix_> I can imagine that some fanatics start programming a good alternative OS, but at a certain point in time the must want some money for it, no?
[02:39] <tristan> idefix_ : real question is what do you need that is not free on linux...
[02:39] <cRd_x> _jason: found a solution?
[02:39] <_jason> cRd_x, I'm going to get rid of the line in a sec
[02:39] <cRd_x> i'm working on this since a view days and have noe idea anymore
[02:39] <cRd_x> -e
[02:39] <idefix_> what are they doing right now? are they transforiming all possible software which exists on windows to linux?
[02:40] <idefix_> my favorite CAD-program Vellum has no linux-version I think
[02:40] <cRd_x> i don't understand the problem ... this system has nearly the same config as my debian-server in the data-center
[02:40] <idefix_> tristan?
[02:40] <idefix_> swistak?
[02:40] <cRd_x> there it's no problem with compiling the same package
[02:40] <tristan> idefix_ : not transforming, building their own alternative programs
[02:41] <cRd_x> are there so big differences between debian and ubuntu?! ... maybe i could download the older debian-packgae and try to install this one
[02:41] <idefix_> so, it'd be an idea for me to program something Vellum-ish for linux?
[02:41] <pappan> is there a ubuntu forum that discusses live cds
[02:42] <idefix_> where can I find a list of cool linux programs?
[02:42] <_jason> cRd_x, http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/index.php?showtopic=12949&mode=linearplus, at least your not alone...
[02:43] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:43] <cRd_x> _jason: i know this link ^^
[02:43] <r`h> idefix_: http://directory.google.com/Top/Computers/Software/Operating_Systems/Linux/Projects/
[02:43] <_jason> cRd_x, haha yeah I thought you would
[02:43] <idefix_> thx
[02:43] <cRd_x> what is really funny: if i try to execute the bin, it also works not
[02:44] <cRd_x> never seen this before
[02:44] <cRd_x> :] 
[02:44] <gnudreamer> the cd/dvd rom "sees" regular cds
[02:44] <dodobrain> cRd_x, what is that link _jason just posted?
[02:44] <dodobrain> looks like just regular install from source problems
[02:44] <idefix_> there is no CAD-category!!
[02:44] <albacker> does anybody know how to download all .txt from a directory using wget ? wget -r site.com/dir downloads everything in that dir, what about everything *.txt ? can someone help ?
[02:44] <cRd_x> it's another guy with the same problem that i hvae
[02:45] <cRd_x> have
[02:45] <_jason> dodobrain, yeah but he says it compiles fine in debian
[02:45] <cRd_x> yes, it does
[02:45] <gavcos> albacker, try the -A option
[02:45] <cRd_x> i have tested in on sarge - no problem ...
[02:45] <XeruX> the "noapic" and "noapictimer" kernel options are preventing my laptop from entering X at boot
[02:45] <dodobrain> cRd_x, you have a log of the build? paste on some site
[02:45] <albacker> gavcos, wget -A site.com/dir/*.txt ? how ?
[02:45] <XeruX> it goes black right before it's supposed to launch X
[02:45] <XeruX> Any reasons why ?
[02:45] <tristan> idefix_ : and this list is not complete. I see several program that I use on Linux for Science which are not listed
[02:45] <cRd_x> dodobrain: brb - later on!
[02:46] <gavcos> wget -r -l1 --no-parent -A.txt site.com/dir
[02:46] <idefix_> so for now, I'll have to do my CAD-work in OpenOffice draw?
[02:46] <albacker> gavcos, thanks
[02:47] <tristan> idefix_ : what is CAD?
[02:47] <idefix_> computer aided design
[02:47] <albacker> gavcos, it doesnt work tho'
[02:47] <tristan> idefix_
[02:47] <owner> there is gcad
[02:47] <owner> i mean Qcad
[02:47] <owner> lol
[02:48] <tristan> idefix_ : you can also use vector programs like inkscape
[02:48] <r`h> idefix_: If your favorite CAD program doesn't exist for Linux because the company doesn't make a port, there are plenty of options.
[02:48] <XeruX> I'm running Ubuntu Breezy badger 5.10,,, 32bit.. and everything's 2xspeed,, the clock, sound,, video.. everything. Thought noapictimer would work but it just makes my laptop go black when X is supposed to be started.
[02:48] <owner> try qcad
[02:48] <BooZee> I got a problem with my bootable (windows) partition (or something like that) - it restarting my computer every time I choose windows in the boot manager!!
[02:48] <owner> its free anyway
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> hey
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> i need help
[02:49] <gavcos> albacker, are you behind a firewall?
[02:49] <Jack-Ho> http://ilunix.org/ph?379
[02:49] <idefix_> r`h, like switching to another program?
[02:49] <albacker> gavcos, no
[02:50] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:50] <gnudreamer> i have a dvd rom cd  which has several mpg files on it...my cd/dvdrom wont recognize the files. On my laptop however which has a dvdrom and runs xp it sees and plays the files perfectly, and help?
[02:50] <XeruX> YO!
[02:50] <albacker> i can download with -r option : but i download files i dont need : gana
[02:50] <albacker> gavcos * ^
[02:50] <albacker> sorry gana
[02:50] <tristan> gnudreamer : can you browse the dvd?
[02:50] <Jack-Ho> ?????
[02:50] <Jack-Ho> :L
[02:50] <gnudreamer> no
[02:51] <gnudreamer> i can only browse a regular cdrom
[02:51] <gnudreamer> cd-r
[02:51] <gavcos> albacker, are you sure you didn't put a space between the A and the .gif?
[02:51] <r`h> idefix_: Yep.
[02:51] <tzfardea> Hello, i have a problem when im trying to login my account
[02:51] <albacker> gavcos, no i didnt,
[02:51] <albacker> gavcos, anyway thanks;;
[02:51] <tzfardea> I get this error http://pastebin.com/509814
[02:52] <idefix_> r`h: but Vellum is one in a googolplex, there cannot be a better CAD-program!
[02:52] <tzfardea> I tried to search in google but i couldn't find any information in English
[02:52] <tristan> gnudreamer : so when you put your dvd, there is nothing in cdrom?
[02:52] <gnudreamer> correct
[02:52] <CactusWiZaRd> does aptitude contain any program for extracting rars?
[02:52] <Jack-Ho> CactusWiZaRd,  unrar
[02:52] <_jason> CactusWiZaRd, unrar-nonfree and unrar-free
[02:53] <tristan> gnudreamer : sorry, I don't know what you can do.... ^^'
[02:53] <CactusWiZaRd> in which category? Not Installed -> Utils?
[02:53] <dodobrain> _jason, theres an unrar_free ?
[02:53] <dodobrain> wheres this from?
[02:53] <r`h> idefix_: I've never used it. I *have* used blender3d and povray in years past, they were pretty fun. You're not going to be using this for work, are you?
[02:53] <_jason> dodobrain, yep, in universe
[02:53] <gnudreamer> me either.... it usedto work in ubuntu now it doesnt
[02:53] <dodobrain> no, i meant whereabouts is the project page
[02:53] <idefix_> some small assignment for some small company for 4 weeks
[02:53] <r`h> idefix_: Check this one out, it was open-sourced by the feds some time ago. http://sourceforge.net/projects/brlcad/
[02:54] <BooZee> i have problems with booting!
[02:54] <_jason> dodobrain, don't know, doesn't do the latest rar format though (3.0)
[02:54] <dodobrain> umm.. ok. considering most rar files are using the 3.x format :(
[02:55] <pje> hello
[02:55] <pje> :)
[02:55] <_jason> dodobrain, yeah
[02:55] <pje> which program is used for ftp on ubuntu?
[02:55] <CactusWiZaRd> hmm...
[02:55] <dodobrain> pje, ncftp, lftp, ftp, gftp, konqueror, nautilus, browser, etc. etc.
[02:56] <ompaul> pje, lots and is it server or client
[02:56] <idefix_> r`h: if I download the source do I have to compile it myself?
[02:56] <pje> nice k thx
[02:56] <gnomefreak> is anyone using FF1.5 on breezy?
[02:56] <ktogias_> pje, Try Locations -> Connect to Server (for client)
[02:56] <owner> i am gnome
[02:56] <_jason> gnomefreak, yes, don't you know about the anyone questions yet :P
[02:56] <ilba7r_away> gnomefreak,
[02:56] <ompaul> idefix_, only if you want to, in general there are packages and you don't have to do source
[02:57] <gnomefreak> owner: do you get a message saying firefox is in use
[02:57] <dodobrain> idefix_, unless you don;t want to have a binary. you don;t need to compile it ;)
[02:57] <gnomefreak> when you try to open another page?
[02:57] <owner> yes you cant run ff 1.07 and ff 1.5 at the same time
[02:57] <CactusWiZaRd> dobobrain: i found the unrar package, i'll give you the address as fast as i can, if u need it
[02:57] <idefix_> what is solaris?
[02:57] <gnomefreak> owner: im not running 1.0.7 i wouldnt think i am :(
[02:57] <owner> gnome do killall -9 firefox-bin
[02:57] <gnomefreak> idefix_: unix based OS
[02:57] <owner> in terminal
[02:58] <mtlife> i think i'm falling in love with ubuntu
[02:58] <idefix_> better fall in love with german waitresses
[02:58] <owner> lol idefix
[02:58] <mtlife> my gf is a dutch waitress ^^
[02:59] <dodobrain> hey, mtlife could be in a german restaurant right now!
[02:59] <dodobrain> :p
[02:59] <mtlife> :O
[02:59] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I had that same problem till I followed the instructs in the wiki
[02:59] <mtlife> thats where I am! now I know again
[03:00] <dodobrain> hehe..
[03:00] <gnomefreak> lowman62: i did follow them what part are you talking about :(
[03:00] <owner> gnome did you try the command i posted
[03:00] <gnomefreak> owner: yes
[03:00] <lowman62> gnomefreak: did you follow the part about touch?
[03:00] <owner> any good
[03:01] <gnomefreak> lowman62: yes but it said couldnt touch or something like that i will run it again
[03:01] <gnomefreak> owner: not sure yet :(
[03:01] <owner> or try sudo gnomefreak lowman62: yes but it said couldnt touch or something like that i will run it again
[03:01] <owner> oops
[03:01] <owner> or try sudo killall -9 firefox-bin
[03:01] <lowman62> gnomefreak: that is where the problem is
[03:02] <lowman62> gnomefreak: like owner said you will have to kill all instances of firefox
[03:03] <lowman62> gnomefreak: there is still a memory leak in firefox...don't know why they have not fixed it yet but I guess in time :P
[03:03] <r`h> idefix_: If you downloaded the source, you would most likely have to compile it yourself. Fortunately there are binaries available for several platforms.
[03:04] <gnomefreak> lowman62: ty it seemed to have fixed a few things :)
[03:04] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yw :)
[03:05] <gnomefreak> last time i ran the touch command it errored :( this time no error
[03:05] <pje> hmm
[03:05] <lowman62> gnomefreak: did you kill all instances this time?
[03:05] <Upayavira> I've just upgraded from Breezy to Hoary. So straightforward it was mildly worrying! Question: how do I confirm that the upgrade has taken place? System/About Ubuntu says "Welcome to Ubuntu Linux 5.04"
[03:05] <gnomefreak> lowman62: i did before a ran the touch command
[03:05] <pje> don't like to connect via locations > connect to serverserver
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: i would hope not :(
[03:06] <idefix_> r`h: so I download the ia32 and not the x86_64 because I have no AMD64 PC and I download tar.gz because I've never heard of tar.bz2 yet..
[03:06] <lowman62> gnomefreak: that is why it worked this time :P :)
[03:06] <pje> searched something like flash or smart
[03:06] <idefix_> ?
[03:06] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: did you upgrade from hoary to breezy?
[03:06] <jean__> Hi all
[03:06] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: yes
[03:06] <gnomefreak> ty lowman62 that explains alot :)
[03:06] <idefix_> r`h: ?
[03:06] <jean__> How do I install a Windows based program with .exe extension ?
[03:06] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: some things have clearly changed. Just not entirely sure what to look for!
[03:06] <lowman62> gnomefreak: yw :) ..i had that same problem big pain in the (_!_)
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ok as soon as i figure out how to scroll we will be in bisness
[03:07] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: what are you looking for?
[03:07] <jean__> installing my wifi connection
[03:07] <jean__> I have a .exe file that I need to install
[03:07] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: anything to prove that the upgrade happened! As I say, it was so straightforward I almost don't believe it!
[03:08] <idefix_> wat is tar.bz2? I search and they only tell me how to unpack it? is it better than tar.gz?
[03:08] <lowman62> jean__: i do believe you need to install ndiswrapper
[03:08] <ompaul> Upayavira, cat /etc/issue
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: go to system than about ubuntu
[03:08] <jean__> that's why I am trying to do
[03:08] <gnomefreak> you will be looking for 5.10
[03:08] <Upayavira> gnomefreak: still says hoary
[03:08] <jean__> but it directs me to some sort of *.exe file
[03:08] <ompaul> have you rebooted?
[03:08] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: type in terminal uname -a
[03:08] <Upayavira> yes
[03:08] <jean__> that I need to install first
[03:09] <Upayavira> Linux chandra 2.6.10-5-686 #1 Mon Oct 10 11:28:02 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:09] <idefix_> r`h: guess I have to find out something for myself
[03:09] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: what kernel and info does it give?
[03:09] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:09] <lowman62> jean__: I do believe it is looking for your driver for your wifi card :)
[03:09] <Upayavira> Hmm. Perhaps didn't upgrade my kernel.
[03:09] <jean__> yes
[03:09] <gnomefreak> thats hoarys kernel if i remember right
[03:09] <Upayavira> thought so.
[03:09] <ompaul> Upayavira, paste /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-linux.org
[03:09] <jean__> I have a Gateway 7326GZ
[03:10] <lowman62> jean__: do you have the driver on a disk?
[03:10] <gnomefreak> Upayavira: in terminal type sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[03:10] <jean__> I downloaded it into a folder
[03:10] <jean__> that I've created
[03:10] <lowman62> jean__: point it to that folder where it exists then :P
[03:10] <Sh4d0x> hi
[03:11] <jean__> ok
[03:11] <lowman62> hi Sh4d0x
[03:11] <Upayavira> hmm. Paste just shows ubuntu website.
[03:11] <Sh4d0x> which was the command again to open repositories? sudo gedit ... :$
[03:11] <Sh4d0x> hi lowman62
[03:11] <jean__> lowman - then what do I do ?
[03:11] <ompaul> Upayavira, that is correct, copy and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list there
[03:12] <_jason> Sh4d0x, what ompaul said ^
[03:12] <Sh4d0x> _jason yap :D thnxx :d
[03:12] <dtamas> I have some problem with the wireless lan!
[03:12] <Sh4d0x> now i'll never forget ever again :D
[03:12] <Upayavira> Actually, I've just done dist-upgrade, and it has said 124 packages will be kept back.
[03:13] <jean__> lowman - are u there ?
[03:13] <lowman62> jean__: follow this in the wiki https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SetupNdiswrapperHowto?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[03:13] <matth> salut
[03:13] <Ng> Upayavira: make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed and the upgrade should work a lot better
[03:14] <lowman62> jean__: was looking for solution for you to follow sorry
[03:14] <jean__> it's ok
[03:14] <Upayavira> Ng: did that. Will try again.
[03:14] <jean__> the problem is my wireless card
[03:14] <marvel> can ubuntu play windows media files, (wmv)?
[03:14] <jean__> is a Broadcom BCM4306
[03:14] <matth> is there any body speak french ??
[03:14] <jean__> there is not driver for it
[03:14] <lowman62> jean__: look at the bottom part about installing windows drivers if you already have ndiswrapper install correctly
[03:14] <jean__> oui matth
[03:14] <matth> hello every body
[03:14] <jean__> comment vas tu ?
[03:15] <matth> jean bien et toi
[03:15] <matth> merci de ta reponse francaise
[03:15] <ompaul> !fr
[03:15] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:15] <jean__> Yes I do
[03:15] <ilba7r> jean__, install ndiswrapper. Then install networkmanager
[03:15] <jean__> all I need is being able to
[03:15] <jean__> I did that already
[03:15] <matth> merci beaucoup ubotu et jean !!
[03:15] <idefix_> so you're saying that nobody uses linux for work?
[03:16] <jean__> Matth tu es nouveau egalement ?
[03:16] <dodobrain> idefix_, huh?
[03:16] <ocerpa> hi there
[03:16] <Royce> I need to remove the grub boot manager, please help
[03:16] <dodobrain> i use linux at and for work
[03:16] <Ng> idefix_: I'm at work right now using it :)
[03:16] <Gridblock> hey guys i need a quick answer. when i boot linux everytime i only get into the console. how do i get into the gui??
[03:16] <ocerpa> hi ogra (I'm raphink, hidden  behind another nick and vhost)
[03:16] <_jason> Gridblock, did you do an expert install?
[03:16] <deine> he
[03:16] <jean__> again to my first question
[03:16] <ogra> hey ocerpa
[03:16] <ocerpa> anyone knows how to set the microphone on gnome?
[03:17] <jean__> how do I unzip or execute this *.exe windows file ?
[03:17] <Upayavira> apt-get install ubuntu-desktop shows a host of packages that 'aren't going to be installed'. e.g. cupsys, xpdf. Trying to install them gives "depends: libc6 (>=2.3.4-1)
[03:17] <ocerpa> I use kde usuall and can't find how to do it on gnome
[03:17] <tristan> idefix_ : I am at work and I use ubuntu too
[03:17] <deine> Windows is the best program of the world
[03:17] <Gridblock> _jason, no just normal. ive gotten normaly into the os before but about 3 days ago it happend that i only got into console and not ui
[03:17] <pje> installed gftp now, how can i use it?
[03:17] <Ng> ocerpa: right click on the volume icon on the panel and you can open the full mixer
[03:17] <ilba7r> jean__, you are looking for wine. search the forums on how to use it
[03:17] <jean__> wine ?
[03:17] <Ng> Upayavira: ah, you will probably want to install ubuntu-desktop with the old sources.list first
[03:17] <ompaul> deine, wrong, so emm what would you like to do next
[03:17] <_jason> Gridblock, try: /etc/init.d/gdms start
[03:17] <jihong> hi,all
[03:17] <dodobrain> pje, run gftp from a terminal or from the menu
[03:17] <ilba7r> !wine
[03:18] <ocerpa> oh thanks much Ng ;)
[03:18] <Upayavira> Ng: thought so. Willdo
[03:18] <ocerpa> easy
[03:18] <ompaul> !+wine
[03:18] <ubotu> I guess wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[03:18] <ilba7r> !tell jean__ about wine
[03:18] <pje> how with menu?
[03:18] <s_spiff> !wine
[03:18] <pje> if i run it via terminal i can't close terminal right? :)
[03:18] <jean__> but yesterday I was able to type a command in terminal
[03:18] <dodobrain> pje, sure you can..
[03:18] <jean__> and execute a file
[03:18] <dodobrain> pje, $ gftp &
[03:18] <dodobrain> use the & to bg the task
[03:19] <jean__> today I don't remember what command I typed ?
[03:19] <deine>  I will buy tomorrow windows cause lynucs is bullshitt
[03:19] <Gridblock> _jason, ok but the first time i think i screwed up is when i took the ctrl+alt+backspace to do a quick reboot and someone told me to press ctrl+alt something
[03:19] <pje> bg?
[03:19] <ompaul> jean__, up arrow
[03:19] <Royce> Anybody know how to remove grub?
[03:19] <dodobrain> background
[03:19] <pje> kay
[03:19] <_jason> Gridblock, so now when you reboot it doesn't start?
[03:19] <ompaul> Royce, you will kill your box if you do that, what are you trying to achieve
[03:19] <Ng> Royce: if you want to go back to the windows bootloader you can boot your windows cd, go into the recovery console and run "fixmbr"
[03:19] <deine> Scheie man ihr knnt ja alle deutsch labern
[03:19] <idefix_> so if I do all my work in linux and send it to my boss who still uses windows, will he be able to read it?
[03:20] <Royce> NG, perfect thanks
[03:20] <ompaul> !tell Royce about grub
[03:20] <ompaul> Royce, that might help
[03:20] <Ng> idefix_: that depends what kind of work you do - if it's just office documents then openoffice can save in the MS Office 97/2000 formats
[03:20] <dodobrain> idefix_, depends on what the work is!
[03:20] <Gridblock> _jason, yes
[03:20] <pje> gftp and gftp bg has the same effect
[03:20] <pje> if i close terminal, gftp closes 2
[03:20] <_jason> Gridblock, strange, it shouldn't do that... I don't know offhand what's wrong
[03:20] <dodobrain> pje, gftp &
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, but it loaded fine when you ran that command right?
[03:21] <Upayavira> Still no luck. Reverted sources.list, did apt-get update, then tried to install ubuntu-desktop and still get dependency errors.
[03:21] <Gridblock> _jason, do you know the ctrl+alt something command for getting into ui after quick reboot?
[03:21] <pje> oh...
[03:21] <deine> LINUX is bullshit
[03:21] <pje> :)
[03:21] <Gridblock> havent done that yes
[03:21] <Gridblock> _jason, havent done that yet
[03:21] <deine> WINOWS is the best
[03:21] <dodobrain> pje, the '&' tells it to bg
[03:21] <Ng> deine: shut up
[03:21] <pje> yes
[03:21] <idefix_> ehm, there is no MS Office 97/2000 format under save as..
[03:21] <s_spiff> Gridblock, its ctrl+alt+F1,2,3, keys..till 7
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, ui is on 7
[03:21] <pje> :)
[03:21] <Ng> deine: it's wonderful that you prefer one over the other, but please do so silently ;)
[03:21] <Gridblock> deine, whatever you say :P
[03:21] <_jason> Gridblock, gui that is
[03:22] <s_spiff> the cli is on 1,2,3,4,5,6
[03:22] <idefix_> Ng?
[03:22] <s_spiff>  gui is on 7
[03:22] <r`h> Yes, Deine, one OS to rule them all. Everyone loves a zealot. Wait, no.
[03:22] <s_spiff> _jason, any idea why when i launch a program from the cli...terminal
[03:22] <Ng> idefix_: ?
[03:22] <Gridblock> _jason so thats how it works
[03:22] <s_spiff>  it closes when i close the terminal..
[03:22] <Upayavira> Ng: Still no luck. Reverted sources.list, did apt-get update, then tried to install ubuntu-desktop and still get dependency errors.
[03:22] <s_spiff> like pje said..
[03:22] <pje> still closes if i close terminal
[03:22] <idefix_> Ng: there is no MS Office 97/2000 format under save as with OpenOffice Draw
[03:22] <Ng> Upayavira: erk, have you installed any weird third party packages?
[03:23] <_jason> Gridblock, so if you reboot from ctrl+alt+f1 it loads you up back there? interesting, didn't know that
[03:23] <dodobrain> idefix_, it mainly depends on what your work is. if its to do 3d modelling and animation in a certain package then it might not be available for linux and you might end up using windows
[03:23] <dodobrain> it all depends on your work!
[03:23] <jean__> it looks like I've used unzip and the filename yesterday
[03:23] <ompaul> Upayavira, do this please paste the contents of your sources.list file into the paste bin
[03:23] <Gridblock> _jason, ill be back
[03:23] <Ng> idefix_: ah, it's possible that that part of openoffice doesn't support windows formats - I've never used that bit
[03:23] <jean__> and today it doesn't seem to work
[03:23] <Upayavira> ompaul: I can't find the pastebin!
[03:23] <ompaul> Upayavira, paste /etc/apt/sources.list into paste.ubuntu-linux.org
[03:23] <ompaul> that is a url
[03:24] <mah> hi
[03:24] <ompaul> 'lo
[03:24] <orion_fr_24> how can I give access to anonymous to a folder wich is outside of user's home folder
[03:24] <orion_fr_24> proftpd
[03:24] <dodobrain> orion_fr_24, the folks at #proftpd not awake? does the man page help ?
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> tryed man page
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> nothing
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> #proftpd all sleepy
[03:25] <dein>  wertw
[03:25] <dein> werg
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:25] <pappan> woops
[03:25] <dein> wg
[03:26] <Ng> !ops
[03:26] <ubotu> Ops are annoying.
[03:26] <Ng> oh ffs
[03:26] <yatesy> laff
[03:26] <Ng> who runs ubotu anyway?
[03:26] <Ng> they should be seriously larted ;)
[03:26] <lowman62> orion_fr_24: read this http://www.linuxquestions.org/linux/answers/Networking/From_beginning_to_end_ProFTPD
[03:26] <Upayavira> ompaul: I pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7263
[03:26] <ompaul> Ng, he should not
[03:27] <_jason> nalioth, someone removed the !ops thing in ubotu
[03:27] <Rawplayer> RE
[03:27] <Ng> ompaul: should so, bloot is the worst bot engine evar ;)
[03:27] <Gridblock> _jason, it didn't work. gdms wasnt in init.d and gdms start didnt work
[03:27] <pappan> https://launchpad.net/projects/fatalnetwork click http://www.fatalnetwork.com shown in square brackets...lol
[03:27] <nalioth> _jason: i wonder who did that
[03:27] <Upayavira> ompaul/Ng: I just noticed a line at the top of the sources.list file that I suspect I didn't change from hoary->breezy when I first tried to upgrade.
[03:27] <pappan> is that a mistake.. lol
[03:27] <orion_fr_24> lowman62: thank you i ll give it a read
[03:28] <ryanpg> hi all, I'm currenly running dapper but... is there any benefit to installing/upgrading from the dapper flight 3 CD? seems like apt-get dist-upgrade should be equivalent...
[03:28] <Gridblock> _jason, it didn't work. gdms wasnt in init.d and gdms start didnt work
[03:28] <lowman62> orion_fr_24: yw :)
[03:28] <pappan> or is fatalnetwork.com h4x0r3d.. lol
[03:28] <_jason> Gridblock, you mean gdm?
[03:29] <koll> Hi
[03:29] <_jason> Gridblock, I may have made a type, /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:29] <Gridblock> _jason, didn't work that either
[03:30] <_jason> Gridblock, does it say command not found?
[03:30] <Gridblock> i think so
[03:30] <pje> hmm
[03:30] <scanwinder> when i install mozilla-plugin-vlc in ubuntu, it makes opera have a segmentation fault when i try to open it, anyone know if theres a way to fix that without removing mozilla-plugin-vlc?
[03:31] <pje> which program to make red eyes on photos go away?
[03:32] <ompaul> Upayavira, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7264
[03:32] <Gridblock> _jason, its command not found but gdm is there
[03:32] <_jacob> hello fellow ubuntuers
[03:32] <lowman62> pje: read this http://www.linuxnewbieguide.org/chap10.php#art
[03:32] <phimic> hello all
[03:33] <Gridblock> hey _jacob
[03:33] <_jacob> anyone on dapper getting locale errors
[03:33] <_jason> Gridblock, apt-get --reinstall install gdm
[03:33] <ompaul> Upayavira, sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.old
[03:33] <ompaul> Upayavira, then use the stuff in that url
[03:33] <Upayavira> ompaul/Ng: just did sed -i.bak "s/hoary/breezy/g" /etc/apt/sources.list (to be thorough)
[03:33] <_jacob> perl: warning: Setting locale failed.
[03:33] <phimic> i have a big prob installation ubuntu breezer on my aopen cube mz-915, the installation was ok but after reboot the system hangs on pci_hotplug
[03:33] <Upayavira> and apt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade now says 898 to be upgraded.
[03:34] <Upayavira> which is much more like it.
[03:34] <ompaul> Upayavira, okay, now sudp apt-get update
[03:34] <Gridblock> _jason, what now?
[03:34] <ompaul> Upayavira, okay your on your way
[03:34] <Upayavira> ompaul: :-) Thanks.
[03:34] <rseeber> hello
[03:34] <_jacob> anyone any ideas? locale, dapper?
[03:35] <_jacob> errors?
[03:35] <gnomefreak> _jacob: that is a known bug in dapper please go to bugzilla
[03:35] <gnomefreak> search for locales
[03:35] <Upayavira> ompaul: So the basic moral here is to do everything that the instructions say, not just part of it? :-P
[03:35] <_jacob> thanks gnomefreak will do
[03:35] <_jason> Gridblock, does it still fail?
[03:35] <ompaul> Upayavira, correct without the :P
[03:35] <rseeber> i was wondering if there was a program similar to the task manager in windows or at least like a gui for top from the command line
[03:35] <Gridblock> _jason, ill check, tnx man
[03:35] <gnomefreak> _jacob: also read /topic of the room
[03:36] <ompaul> !dapper
[03:36] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[03:36] <ompaul> hmm                                                                                                        ^^^^^^^^^
[03:36] <gnomefreak> ty ompaul i knew i saw it somewhere
[03:36] <_jacob> i know that
[03:36] <Ng> rseeber: gnome system monitor
[03:36] <Ng> rseeber: it's in Applications->System Tools
[03:36] <rseeber> Ng: thanks
[03:37] <rseeber> that's what i ws looking for
[03:37] <Gridblock> hey _jason, thanks man i think it works now :D
[03:37] <_jason> Gridblock, great
[03:38] <robin_> hi, i'
[03:38] <robin_> woopz
[03:39] <robin_> hi, i'd like to know how to use splitscreen in X without switching windowmanagers but still have the ability to use splitscreens, i'm on XFCE
[03:39] <Ng> splitscreen?
[03:39] <lowman62_away> .
[03:39] <Ng> resize the windows so they only take up half the screen? ;)
[03:40] <robin_> ... i mean without seeing other windows
[03:40] <robin_> and..
[03:40] <robin_> omfg, i'm dumb xD
[03:40] <lol> lol
[03:40] <lol> lolo
[03:40] <lol> lo
[03:40] <lol> lo
[03:40] <robin_> ...
[03:40] <lol> allahu akbar
[03:40] <_jacob> thanks guys, be healthy
[03:41] <Gridblock> _jason, so what is your expirience with linux?
[03:42] <_jason> Gridblock, join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:42] <Gridblock> _jason, ok
[03:43] <aggressor> hey can someone help me do lunch games(i have .wine)
[03:43] <robin_> hey, how to fix the problem that when a program changes resolution, the screen gets "weird"?, and with "weird" i mean LOTSA STRIPES :p
[03:43] <mindlace> aggressor: need more information to provide a meaningful answer
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: ctrl-alt-bksp
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: program or you changing resolution?
[03:44] <robin_> i mean so i can switch resolutions without the hassle
[03:44] <robin_> nalioth: the program, i'd like to play games
[03:44] <nalioth> robin_: i'd suggest changing resolutions before starting the game
[03:44] <robin_> but they're adjusted to 1204x768
[03:44] <robin_> hmm..
[03:44] <aggressor> mindlace, i cant get my games work, thats a point :d
[03:44] <robin_> k
[03:44] <robin_> and how to get radeon 9200 support? :p
[03:45] <aggressor> mindlace, if i download games for linux i use command in terminal (sh) but if install is done i gonna get many errors
[03:46] <lunatech> are there any ops around ?
[03:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell robin_ about ati
[03:46] <lunatech> i wanted to add something to the /topic
[03:46] <nalioth> lunatech: what do you need?
[03:46] <mindlace> aggressor: if it is a linux game you don't need .winerc
[03:46] <mindlace> aggressor: can you give an example of a game you are trying to run and the command you are executing to run it?
[03:47] <lunatech> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-non-tech/message/6040
[03:47] <lunatech> mark shuttleworth will be in our office
[03:47] <aggressor> mindlace, i have try GTA command : sh gta.x86.run
[03:47] <nalioth> lunatech: so what did you want in the /topic?
[03:48] <lunatech> yes
[03:48] <lunatech> oh
[03:48] <lunatech> just 'mark shuttleworth in bangalore, http://groups.yahoo.com/group/linux-bangalore-non-tech/message/6040"
[03:49] <mindlace> aggressor: and then it gives some kind of error?
[03:49] <nalioth> lunatech: run your idea past Seveas when he arrives
[03:49] <aggressor> mindlace, yes many
[03:50] <mindlace> Use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org to paste them all and I will look at them
[03:51] <aggressor> mindlace, cannot find a suitable display mode
[03:51] <Seveas> lunatech, mark shottleworth visits lots of places - adding his whereabouts in the topic will be relevant for at most 1 person at the time in here...
[03:51] <mindlace> aggressor: ok, so you don't have the right X configuration
[03:51] <ompaul> out of 624 atm
[03:51] <dusk> so i just ditched debian for nubuntu
[03:51] <mindlace> aggressor: what kind of video card?
[03:51] <ompaul> dusk, you could have had ubuntu :)
[03:51] <dusk> can i run it as an up-to-date desktop?
[03:51] <lunatech> Seveas: i see. actually he was going to be here for UbuntuBusinessTour .. so wanted to publicize the event
[03:52] <dusk> umm, well, convince me
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, this is my friends comp, this have 4mb
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, but for gta it must work
[03:52] <aggressor> mindlace, where i can check my comp stats
[03:53] <cello_rasp> oh hello - gnome is pretty screwed. root cant start it. aditinally user cant start becaus it cant cd into /home/$user
[03:53] <mindlace> aggressor: gta might still require some accelleration of some kind
[03:53] <Seveas> lunatech, Ubuntu business tour and jdubs 3bt are not really relevant for this channel since it's mainly a support channel
[03:53] <dusk> nubuntu looks more geared for the stuff i like to do.. what kind of functionality do I lose from nubuntu/ubuntu.  I am a student in infosec/security engineering
[03:53] <ompaul> dusk, using breezy - please note that unstable in ubuntu terms is more like experimental in debian - however the same bundle of packages move to stable over 6 months
[03:53] <lunatech> ok Seveas
[03:53] <cello_rasp> can anyone help me get gnome back>
[03:53] <mindlace> aggressor: I don't have an ubuntu desktop here, but I think it's in one of the top menus
[03:53] <dusk> ompaul: yea, that solid release schedule is what got me to switch in the first place
[03:54] <ompaul> dusk, here is one for you, I did not know there was an nubuntu
[03:54] <mindlace> cello_rasp: you don't seem to have your userdir mounted, or your userdir doesn't exist
[03:54] <dusk> oh, heh
[03:54] <ompaul> dusk,  I thought it was a typo
[03:54] <cello_rasp> ur.. it is. shush.
[03:54] <mindlace> cello_rasp: so you probably want to see what partitions are mounted (I like df -h )
[03:54] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, do ls -l /home/username
[03:54] <k0|1s> hi, i'm a windows xp user and i aim to install ubuntu, i've some questions in my mind, whom can i ask?
[03:54] <dusk> ompaul: nubuntu.org
[03:55] <dusk> k0|1s, whats up?
[03:55] <cheemstb> Hi Everyone
[03:55] <ompaul> dusk, I'm looking, interesting
[03:55] <ompaul> !anyone
[03:55] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:55] <cello_rasp> mindlace: /home is not a partition, so stop giving unhelpful advice based on your own random guesses. thanks.
[03:56] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: all permissinos are to user.
[03:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cello_rasp: I have a specific partition for /home :p
[03:56] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, does the user have read and execute permissions for that directory
[03:56] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, And what did you do to break it...
[03:57] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: yeah
[03:57] <tristan> k0|1s : anyone
[03:57] <k0|1s> what are the possible problems of installing ubuntu on a computer with xp?
[03:57] <aggressor> mindlace,  You DO NEED wine(x) to play the game!' that was in README
[03:57] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i sudo ./installed something called gprename
[03:58] <nalioth> k0|1s: you might see how XP is less useful
[03:58] <tristan> k0|1s : I would say none. But if you want to have both Windows and Ubuntu, you should make partition of your HD
[03:58] <ScreaminIke> ...
[03:58] <ScreaminIke> can someone help me get my Audacity working?
[03:58] <k0|1s> how can i make partition? does ubuntu install make this for me
[03:58] <tristan> k0|1s : I would advise you to make one partition for Windows system files, one for Linux system files and one for your data
[03:58] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, What is the error message you get again?
[03:58] <nalioth> k0|1s: the installer can do this for you, yes.
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> i agree with tristan
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> and nalioth is right
[03:59] <ScreaminIke> (you can get a program to make windows support ext2/ext3)
[03:59] <tristan> And to have your data partition formated in fat32
[03:59] <SEJeff> k0|1s, Make sure to run defrag and chkdsk on your windows partition before installing ubuntu. I've seen the partition shrinking aspect of the ubuntu installer fail when the windows drive needed to be defragged
[03:59] <k0|1s> would it be more beneficial and effective to use a program like Partition Magic, or is it good enough to leave it to the arms of ubuntu install
[04:00] <SEJeff> k0|1s, good enough for the install. Probably easier also
[04:00] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: "starting gnome display manager.. [failed] " some other fails are kernel log daemon.. HP LPIS and deferred execution scheduler
[04:00] <k0|1s> Thanks
[04:00] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, Would you happen to get any crazy errors in /var/log/messages?
[04:01] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, and how comfortable are you with the command line?
[04:01] <dodobrain> SEJeff, err.. really? is the ubuntu partition manager easier to use than pqmagic ?
[04:01] <duzchip> Hi
[04:01] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i can do basic stuff but dont ask me to do something on it without being explicit :|
[04:01] <nalioth> dodobrain: it is quite nice to work with (and totally free of charge)
[04:01] <SEJeff> dodobrain, You tell it to resize your partition... you tell it how big you want the partition to be. It does it for you. It's that simple
[04:02] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, ok. You know how virtual terminals work, right?
[04:02] <dodobrain> nalioth, i'm aware of its free nature. just noting that pqmagic is one of the easier partition managers around
[04:02] <nalioth> dodobrain: and also costs money. parted and its qt and gtk skinned frontends are just as effective
[04:02] <SEJeff> dodobrain, I would still say that yes, it's pretty easy to use the ubuntu partition manager to just resize partitions and install ubuntu
[04:02] <dodobrain> nalioth, is the ubuntu installer using gparted or qtparted?
[04:02] <SEJeff> dodobrain, just parted
[04:03] <Ng> neither
[04:03] <Ng> it's a text interface to libparted afaik
[04:03] <robin_> i have an idea..
[04:03] <robin_> a very good idea..
[04:03] <robin_> a mega-idea..
[04:03] <nalioth> dodobrain: the installer uses parted, iirc
[04:03] <robin_> and i'm making it right now ^_^
[04:03] <dodobrain> err.. i meant parted cos qtparted and gparted are the same thing!
[04:03] <ScreaminIke> can someone help me get my Audacity working?
[04:03] <SEJeff> dodobrain, not really. qtparted upstream development is pretty much dead. gparted upstream development is active. So if you have problems, you should use gparted
[04:04] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: i'm using vterms quite happily.
[04:04] <nalioth> dodobrain: you'll find in the *nix world that most times the console version of the program is far superior to any gui that drives it
[04:04] <dodobrain> nalioth, i'm well aware of that.
[04:04] <robin_> guys..
[04:04] <dodobrain> what i meant was 'ease of use' for (likely) beginners
[04:04] <robin_> i'm making a package manager
[04:04] <robin_> :)
[04:04] <robin_> a very good one xD
[04:04] <dodobrain> huh?
[04:04] <duzchip> Any swedish Ubuntuusers here?
[04:05] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, see if you see any strange errors in /var/log/messages. You could do sudo less /var/log/messages
[04:05] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: it gave a lot of errors from gconfd
[04:05] <robin_> yea if you use your brain.. why think you should create a whole new package manager, if you can just make a script that uses them all to have an all-distro package-manager script?
[04:05] <nalioth> dodobrain: either g- or qtparted are fine for beginners (high resemblance to PM)
[04:05] <robin_> a script that can even install from source
[04:05] <robin_> :)
[04:05] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, If you are getting an error that says you can't change into /home/$USER and the permissions are correct as you say, thats very odd
[04:05] <robin_> a script that is very small
[04:05] <robin_> just a simple perl script :)
[04:05] <dodobrain> nalioth, umm.. which is why i asked if the installer uses either of them :)
[04:06] <dodobrain> robin_, err.. ever looked at autopackage?
[04:06] <SEJeff> robin_, that is impossible. Package names across distros are different and sometimes conflict or nonexistant
[04:06] <robin_> ohh..
[04:06] <duzchip> SEJeff, nothing is impossible
[04:06] <robin_> well
[04:06] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: timed out, failed to open logfile, wont restore listeners. there are no gnome-related errors after that forced shutdown.
[04:06] <robin_> mine detects extensions
[04:06] <robin_> :)
[04:06] <robin_> i'm creating it right now :p
[04:06] <duzchip> but it is probably too much time for anyone to actually wanna make it
[04:06] <dodobrain> i don;t mean to discourage. but its better if you research into whats currectly available before you dig into coding
[04:07] <robin_> it's really damn simple to make :|
[04:07] <Ng> robin_: sounds like you're describing an ebuild
[04:07] <Seveas> and to take this horribly offtopic discussion elsewhere...
[04:07] <robin_> Ng: sorta ;)
[04:07] <nalioth> dodobrain: the installer uses 'partman' which calls parted
[04:07] <duzchip> robin_, it is? mind showing me some of the code you've written this far on it?
[04:07] <robin_> Ng: one that supports binaries, source, rpms, all things
[04:07] <robin_> duzchip: only some commetns and a usage thing
[04:07] <nalioth> robin_: please join me in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:07] <SEJeff> robin_, extensions don't matter. Ubuntu, Mepis, Linspire, Xandros are all based on Debian. That doesn't mean packages from one will work at all on the other. They all use .deb
[04:07] <robin_> k :p
[04:08] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, ls -l /var/log/messages
[04:08] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, You've got something messed up alright
[04:09] <cello_rasp> ok.. if this problem is too complex could someone please tell me how to mount this usb flash drive as so to back up /home ?
[04:09] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mkdir /media/usbdrive
[04:09] <mtlife> networking question: how do i get 2 nics working?
[04:09] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/usbdrive
[04:10] <mtlife> when i activate one, it works.. but when i activate both of them i cant reach my box from outside
[04:10] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, sudo mv /home/$USER /media/usbdrive
[04:10] <ejofee> is there any way i can ensure a minimum bandwidth for my ssh tunnel, so that all trafic on the remote machine may leave my tunnel unaffected?
[04:10] <dodobrain> mtlife, its probably messing up the routing table
[04:10] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: would cp work also?
[04:11] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, Sorry, I'm really tired
[04:11] <mtlife> dodobrain how can i fix that
[04:11] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, cp -R
[04:11] <cello_rasp> thanks for not saying "hurrrr man mount" :))
[04:12] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, I really hate it when people do that. Thats why I got pissed at debian many years ago when first learning linux
[04:12] <cello_rasp> one could spend hours trolling like that and get away with it.
[04:12] <ScreaminIke> ... i really want some help running audacity
[04:13] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: tried #audacity ?
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> no one there
[04:13] <[dEvIL-bOY] > helloz
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> 'cept me
[04:13] <ScreaminIke> as soon as i run it... i get this "you won't be able to record or play audio"
[04:13] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, I'm not trolling. It turned me off of debian and I used gentoo/suse/redhat up until I tried out Ubuntu
[04:14] <ScreaminIke> andi'm thinkin "what's the friggin point?"
[04:14] <cello_rasp> how do i find out how many bytes a folder and its children are from the command line?
[04:14] <cello_rasp> SEJeff: you have been nothing but a gentleman :)
[04:14] <goki-> hurrrrr, man mount :)
[04:15] <cello_rasp> man linux u stupid nub!!
[04:15] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, you want to find the Disk Usage... use du. I prefer 'du -h' for human readable output vs kb or bytes
[04:15] <duzchip> cello_rasp, how old are you?
[04:15] <cello_rasp> grep windoze LOLOll
[04:15] <cello_rasp> duzchip: old enough to recognise sarcasm
[04:16] <imc_> Anyone got Breezy running on an iBook?
[04:16] <looksaus> imc_, I had breezy, now I'm running Dapper
[04:16] <cello_rasp> thanks SEJeff.
[04:16] <imc_> looksaus, great. Did you get the airport working?
[04:16] <SEJeff> cello_rasp, np
[04:16] <looksaus> on dapper, yes, but there are some small annoyances
[04:17] <imc_> Oh? Shall we PM about it or can you talk  here?
[04:17] <looksaus> (that's to say, I got it to scanning the networks in the neighbourhood)
[04:17] <looksaus> unfortunately, I'm at work
[04:17] <duzchip> cello_rasp, i've just never seen a mature person ever answer a person asking a question with "u stupid nub!!" but okey, you are probably the best (hope you see recognise this sarcasm aswell)
[04:17] <tuxie> anyone here familiar with apt-build or apt-src? I'm trying to install kde 3.5.0 on ppc from the kubuntu source-packages but I'm having problems..
[04:17] <imc_> Gotchya, looksaus, but basically can you associate with and use WEP or WPA protected wifi hotspots?
[04:18] <Hentai^XP> ok
[04:18] <Hentai^XP> ohhh wrong area
[04:19] <tuxie> apt-src doesn't build dependencies even though I have APT::Src::BuildDeps "true"; in $HOME/.apt-src/config and apt-build refuse to see kde 3.5.0 and tries to build 3.4.2 instead..
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> why won't this command work... even when i'm root?
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> root@swarmCraft:/home/swarm# pwnzor the n00bz
[04:19] <ScreaminIke> bash: pwnzor: command not found
[04:19] <imc_> looksaus, just quickly: can you associate with and use WEP or WPA protected wifi hotspots? and any mouse / touchpad drama?
[04:19] <jblack> Hi. I'm looking for gobi. I thought it was in ubuntu, but I don't see it now
[04:20] <xmen> 1
[04:20] <cello_rasp> i think i love u ScreaminIke
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> :)
[04:21] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: please take those witticisms to #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> sorry nalioth
[04:21] <ScreaminIke> i really do need help with audacity
[04:22] <nalioth> ScreaminIke: there was nobody in #audacity ?
[04:22] <ScreaminIke> nope
[04:24] <mtlife> i already got the problem
[04:24] <mtlife> i think one of my nics is broken
[04:25] <Guardian> hello
[04:25] <Guardian> i installed xubuntu on my laptop, how to gain suspend to ram and suspend to disk ?
[04:26] <cello_rasp> Guardian: is xubuntu another version of ubuntu>
[04:26] <Guardian> it's ubuntu + xfce
[04:26] <cello_rasp> i would also like to know this.. i have tried gnome-laptop-tools i think
[04:26] <Guardian> what's worrying me is that the xubuntu wiki tells to install xubuntu in server mode, then apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[04:26] <cello_rasp> niiiice
[04:26] <Guardian> i guess the whole process misses laptop stuff
[04:27] <chode_> is lynx included in a base ubuntu install?
[04:27] <|GaiJin|> What ftp-servers are folks using?
[04:28] <trappist> I like pure-ftpd
[04:28] <|GaiJin|> tried to set it up... but just get the message that it cant find the password file...
[04:28] <nalioth> chode_: it is not
[04:29] <obontu> hello, how do i create a shortcut of home on my desktop?
[04:29] <annemarie> Does anyone know how I can play mp3files in Ubuntu?
[04:29] <sweet_kate> hi
[04:29] <jasonr_> ubotu: tell annemarie about mp3
[04:29] <trappist> !tell annemarie about mp3
[04:29] <sweet_kate> amarok
[04:29] <chode_> nalioth: thx. i'll install it.
[04:29] <sweet_kate> annemarie:
[04:29] <annemarie> Ive installen it yesterday on my computer,
[04:30] <trappist> wow ubotu is cool
[04:30] <annemarie> ja?
[04:30] <sweet_kate> !no-ip
[04:30] <ubotu> sweet_kate: Are you smoking crack?
[04:30] <Katie^> trappist, until you actually want to do something constructive
[04:30] <sweet_kate> !noip
[04:30] <ubotu> sweet_kate: Syntax error in line 1
[04:30] <ScreaminIke> ubotu: tell screaminike about mp3
[04:30] <sweet_kate> annemarie:  frenc you'
[04:30] <obontu> please tell me how to create a shortcut of my home folder on my desktop
[04:30] <trappist> ScreaminIke: if you want to know, do /msg ubotu mp3
[04:30] <sweet_kate> annemarie:  french you'?
[04:31] <annemarie> I'm French??
[04:31] <mindlace> snort ... I love how cello_rasp tells me off for my advice and then has SEJeff giving him similar advice later
[04:31] <Jemt> Greetings
[04:31] <ktogias_> I have connected to my breezy pc a usb disk (ide2usb case). The disk is functioning, but after a couple of days with no reboot, i see duplicate/removed entries for my removable storage devices in Places -> Computer (eg. My cdrom drive is replaced by "CD-RW/DVD+R Drive (2)" that points to my cdrw device) and thus I am unable to access some of my removable media (in the particular case cdrom drive). Can anyone guess what fails and how could t be
[04:31] <ktogias_>  fixed/restarted without rebooting the OS?
[04:31] <Katie^> is there anyway i can move a folder with music in it from ubuntu to the windows partition?
[04:31] <sweet_kate> people how do i install a program downaloaded? it sayas to eun "make"
[04:31] <sweet_kate> i run but nothing!
[04:31] <sweet_kate> eun = run
[04:32] <matth> hello escuse me can you give me the french chanel because i lost it ? thnk you so much
[04:32] <sweet_kate> how do i make a file?
[04:32] <ompaul> Katie^, so you need to have a partition in the middle a "fat32" one is usually best
[04:32] <trappist> Katie^: if it's fat32, yes.  if it's ntfs, not really.
[04:32] <nalioth> sweet_kate: waht program is it?
[04:32] <trappist> matth: #ubuntu-fr
[04:32] <tristanmike> matth, #ubuntu-fr
[04:32] <mindlace> sweet_kate: try going into the directory and then do:
[04:32] <mindlace> ./configure
[04:32] <mindlace> make
[04:32] <mindlace> make install
[04:32] <matth> thx
[04:32] <mindlace> (might have to do
[04:32] <mindlace> sudo make install
[04:32] <Guardian> :(((
[04:32] <Guardian> just ran /etc/acpi/sleep.sh
[04:33] <Guardian> it crashed badly
[04:33] <Guardian> never seen so strange things on the screen :D
[04:33] <lowman62_away> Katie^: do u have more than one computer or is this on a dual boot system?
[04:34] <lowman62> .
[04:34] <nalioth> mindlace: please don't give that advise, the program sweet_kate may be available to her
[04:34] <nalioth> sweet_kate: what program is it?
[04:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, apt-cache search programname
[04:34] <Katie^> dual boot
[04:35] <sweet_kate> no-ip updater client!
[04:35] <sweet_kate> downloaded from its site!
[04:35] <Katie^> but how do i do it/
[04:35] <ompaul> midsleep, do not paste or use enter if you want to put several commands back to back you can do this and it work on the command line >> ./configure&& make && make install &&  then if it fails all commands after it fail too, you can do this ./config ; make but if a step fails then it tries to do the rest this may not have a good outcome
[04:35] <lowman62> Katie^: then yes I would create a fat32 partition for both to access
[04:35] <nalioth> sweet_kate: what is the link to the site, please?
[04:35] <Katie^> how do i do that :( lol
[04:36] <sweet_kate> no-ip.com download section nalioth !
[04:36] <lowman62> Katie^: personally I use partitionmagic for windows...errmm! you have that?
[04:36] <intero> i have installed gnome-volume-manager but i still don't see usb pen appearing on my desktop. do i need to enable something?
[04:36] <trappist> sweet_kate: sudo apt-get install no-ip
[04:36] <Katie^> i could get it
[04:36] <Katie^> ive used it before but not well
[04:36] <Katie^> lol
[04:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell sweet_kate about compile
[04:37] <nalioth> sweet_kate: check your private messages
[04:37] <trappist> there's a package, folks
[04:37] <kurt> how do you install mplayer on the 64 bit?
[04:37] <trappist> in universe
[04:37] <lowman62> Katie^: well the reason I say that is that it would be easier to do from the windows side of your system then just mount it from the ubuntu side
[04:38] <lowman62> Katie^: then you should be able to access your mp3's or whatever from bothsides
[04:38] <lowman62> ;)
[04:38] <Katie^> okay, there'll be a walkthrough wont thereo n google somewhere
[04:39] <Katie^> bbiab then
[04:39] <Jemt> Where can I change the path where Apache looks for HTML/PHP files ?
[04:39] <cello_rasp> is there an ubuntu install for i686?
[04:39] <Jemt> Can't seem to find it in apache2.conf
[04:40] <lowman62> Katie^: If you are going to use partitionmagic just use the resize widows partiton wizard and resize the windows partition and format it as fat32...you will see it is easy in partitionmagic
[04:40] <joesmith> i am trying to use a frontpage client with apache; believe I've loaded all of the frontpage extensions from the package manager, but frontpage client still claims the frontpage server extensions are not installed. any ideas?
[04:40] <mindlace> nalioth: she was asking about a download... i figure answering the question is the charitable thing
[04:40] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i delete an failed installation of Firefox 1.5?
[04:41] <mindlace> ompaul: good advice
[04:41] <cello_rasp> cant ubu handle NTFS? if so i whould use that than fat32... you are rather limited in path length and names in fat32
[04:41] <ompaul> mindlace, :-) I try
[04:41] <nalioth> mindlace: lots of new users in here are ignorant of universe and multiverse repositories. non official ubuntu pkgs can break ubuntu
[04:41] <mindlace> good point, nalioth
[04:41] <ubuntudvd32> I have installed epcam from source for creative webcam pd1001 but now having this error "epcam: Unknown symbol remap_page_range" any suggestion
[04:41] <ScreaminIke> can someone walk me through making a shell script that just echoes something to the screen... then setting up a command to execute that script?
[04:41] <lowman62> joesmith: read this http://www.e-gineer.com/v1/instructions/install-frontpage-extensions-for-apache-on-linux.htm
[04:42] <jojoried> can someone tell me how to log in as root?
[04:42] <mtlife> ok trouble:
[04:42] <mindlace> jojoreid: sudo su -
[04:42] <joesmith> lowman62: thanks. I'll look there
[04:42] <mtlife> i replaced a nic in my box, now it hangs when accessing the new nic
[04:42] <lowman62> joesmith: yw :)
[04:42] <jojoried> ok thanks
[04:42] <mtlife> i think it is because of a wrong module, but how do I let ubuntu know its a new nic?
[04:43] <kurt> how do you install mplayer on the 64 bit?
[04:44] <lowman62_away> .
[04:44] <pje> hi
[04:44] <pje> anyone has time to configure my **** skype? :)
[04:45] <Ng> kurt: enable universe and multiverse and it'll be available
[04:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jojoried about root
[04:45] <nalioth> mindlace: again, this is not advised in ubuntu
[04:45] <Jemt> Where can I change the path where apache looks for PHP files? Currently it is /var/www - but I wan't to change it to /media/hda2/pro
[04:45] <annemarie> when I try to install a gstreamer0.8-mad, an error appears
[04:45] <nalioth> mindlace: this is not debian, or redhat. ubuntu is 'different'
[04:45] <rwabel> I've 2 linuxes installed and on hda5 is GRUB installed. But I would like to have it on hda6, so I can remove partition hda5. What's the best way to move grub to hda6?
[04:45] <kurt> i have
[04:46] <Ng> Jemt: in /etc/apache/conf/httpd.conf most likely
[04:46] <pje> skype :)
[04:46] <kurt> i've then tried apt-get update; apt-get mplayer
[04:46] <kurt> and nothing..
[04:46] <Jemt> Ng: Can't find it
[04:46] <ubuntudvd32> help needed installing webcam creative pd1001
[04:46] <Ng> Jemt: /etc/apache2/...etc?
[04:46] <annemarie> how to install gstreamer?
[04:46] <mwe> kurt: mplayer-386
[04:47] <kurt> i have 64 installed though..
[04:47] <mtlife> help me, ubuntu hangs when accessing eth0, but only when the network cable is plugged in
[04:47] <Ng> kurt: try apt-cache search mplayer
[04:47] <Ng> that'll show you the exact versions available
[04:47] <kurt> alright
[04:47] <yggdrasil_> good morning folks
[04:47] <nalioth> ubotu: tell annemarie about multimedia
[04:48] <dooglus> annemarie: what error do you get?
[04:48] <annemarie> Translated:
[04:48] <Jemt> Ng: Can't find the file nor the line to modify
[04:48] <annemarie> He can't find the file,
[04:48] <annemarie> while
[04:48] <annemarie> it should exist
[04:48] <nalioth> annemarie: ubotu sent you some info to read
[04:48] <cello_rasp> are all my thunderbird settings and emails stored under /home/$user ?
[04:48] <nalioth> cello_rasp: yes.
[04:48] <Ng> Jemt: if you have apache installed it'll be in /etc/apache/ or /etc/apache2/ called httpd.conf
[04:49] <annemarie> yes, thankz
[04:49] <yggdrasil_> heylo nailoth how you doin today
[04:49] <Jemt> Ng: I can't find the line to modify!!
[04:49] <Ng> Jemt: DocumentRoot
[04:49] <Ng> search for that
[04:49] <dooglus> annemarie: you get an error when you run "sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-mad"?
[04:49] <Jemt> Thanks, Ng :)
[04:50] <dooglus> cello_rasp: I don't use thunderbird, so I'm not sure, but try ~/.mozilla/thunderbird/
[04:50] <sweet_kate> how do i see all my running processes?
[04:50] <dooglus> cello_rasp: that's a guess based on the fact that firefox stores its stuff in ~/.mozilla/firefox...
[04:50] <annemarie> dooglus: yes
[04:51] <dooglus> sweet_kate: just your processes?
[04:51] <sweet_kate> yes
[04:51] <sweet_kate> dooglus:
[04:51] <kitty_> Can someone please tell me what i need to go to to reformat an mp3 player
[04:51] <yggdrasil_> wich one is it kitty_
[04:51] <sweet_kate> dooglus: so?
[04:51] <annemarie> kitty_: Im try to do the same at the moment:P
[04:51] <dooglus> sweet_kate: you probably want to go to System>Administration>SystemMonitor
[04:51] <yggdrasil_> makefs ?
[04:51] <kitty_> Umm... what do you mean??? Its my mp3 player...?
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: unless you would prefer a non-gui answer?
[04:52] <sweet_kate> i want to show my running processes by shell
[04:52] <sweet_kate> yes dooglus
[04:52] <yggdrasil_> what model is it kitty_ ipod.. zen ...
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: I use "ps -Hfudooglus"
[04:52] <dooglus> sweet_kate: you probably need to change the name
[04:52] <kitty_> just a storage device... nothin fancy
[04:53] <yggdrasil_> is it mounted ?
[04:53] <rseeber> is there another unbuntu apt preository that has more up-to-date software? (ie firefox/thunderbird 1.5 - i know i can install them myself, but i was just wondering if i could get it through there)
[04:53] <inez> Hello, Ik can't find "paint" on Ubuntu. Can you help me?
[04:53] <kitty_> yer
[04:53] <yggdrasil_> just do a mount to see what file system its using
[04:53] <Ng> rseeber: nope
[04:53] <kitty_> hang on
[04:53] <rseeber> *repository
[04:53] <Jemt> Ng: Didn't work. DocumentRoot didn't exist. I added it but no difference
[04:53] <rseeber> ok
[04:53] <kitty_> it just says mp3player1
[04:53] <Jemt> Ng: And I have restarted Apache
[04:53] <Ng> Jemt: was it /etc/apache/ or apache2 in the end?
[04:54] <inez> I can't find paint on Ubuntu. Can somebody help me?
[04:54] <Jemt> apache2
[04:54] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ try sudo cfdisk
[04:54] <Jemt> Ng: Apache2
[04:54] <nalioth> inez: go to ##windows please
[04:54] <selinium> inez: the program you are looking for is GIMP
[04:54] <Jemt> Ng: I have installed Apache2 - obviously :)
[04:54] <Ng> Jemt: in that case it's probably in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default
[04:54] <inez> Selinium: Thanks
[04:54] <inez> bye bye
[04:54] <mindlace> nalioth: I understand that ubuntu doesn't have root enabled by default ... I should've said "sudo su", which is still sometimes necessary
[04:54] <cello_rasp> how do i unmount/eject a usb drive in terminal?
[04:55] <nalioth> mindlace: sudo -i is preferred
[04:55] <pje> am i the only one having problems with skype?
[04:55] <kitty_> now what an i meant to see...???? I thought it would be simple...
[04:55] <robin_> can someone give me a lightweight test deb package for ubuntu? i mean some little app
[04:55] <dooglus> cello_rasp: unmount with "umount /mount/point" and eject with eject?
[04:55] <robin_> cuz i'm making a package system script :0
[04:55] <robin_> :)
[04:55] <nalioth> robin_: in #ubuntu-offtopic we can help you
[04:55] <robin_> and it's kinda working :)
[04:55] <rseeber> b,nmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmnmnnmnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn,                                                                                                                         /msg nickserv register
[04:55] <robin_> i know
[04:55] <robin_> but they ain't answering
[04:56] <nalioth> robin_: i'm in several channels, have patience. your pkg script topic does not belong in here
[04:56] <robin_> k :p
[04:56] <Ng> robin_: look in /var/cache/apt/archives/ it probably has loads of packages
[04:56] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ cfdisk is pretty simple\
[04:56] <cello_rasp> dooglus: not responding... argh
[04:56] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ did your drive show up there ?
[04:56] <dooglus> cello_rasp: ?
[04:57] <Jemt> Ng: Thanks alot :)
[04:57] <kitty_> yer my main drives but not the mp3 player
[04:57] <mindlace> nalioth: what's the difference? does that mean every subsequent command is logged?
[04:57] <yggdrasil_> crap and its mounted ?your sure ?
[04:57] <DarthDevilous> can anyone suggest a c++ IDE?
[04:57] <minntc> Is anyone aware of a way to assign a hotkey (Like Ctrl+Shift+F1, F2, etc.) to each virtual desktop, rather than Ctrl+Shift+Left/Right? (In Gnome 2.12)
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: sudo su is redundant and unnecessary, sudo -i gives you a command shell (superuser shell)
[04:58] <mindlace> ok, so it's a semantic difference
[04:58] <nalioth> DarthDevilous: kdevelop? eclipse with c++ plugin?
[04:58] <turbofisk> does ubuntu have in the box support for HFS+?
[04:58] <DarthDevilous> k thx
[04:58] <dooglus> mindlace: 'sudo' and 'su' both switch to the root user by default.  you don't need to use them both
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: the devs all say to use sudo -i
[04:58] <mindlace> "-i" vs "su" seems equivalent
[04:58] <nalioth> mindlace: i dont use command shells
[04:58] <Thorondor> hi everyone
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> LAWL
[04:58] <ScreaminIke> :)
[04:58] <mindlace> ok, well, now I know :)
[04:59] <kitty_> yer my main drives but not the mp3 player
[04:59] <Thorondor> what does the "wa" stand for in top in the cpu usage row?
[04:59] <mindlace> Thorondor: How much your machine is crying.
[04:59] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ hang on a sec i think try gparted
[04:59] <minntc> 'sudo su' and 'sudo su -' / 'sudo -i' are different though. you may not want a root login shell...X can play funny in that situation
[05:00] <Mapionetka> so you use linux, but you dont use the command line? rofl
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> uh sudo ofcourse
[05:00] <teleyinex> hi
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hello peeps
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > anyone knows about codecs
[05:00] <Thorondor> mindlace: that doesn't help me _that_ much.
[05:00] <teleyinex> some one uses an imac keyboard?
[05:00] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ubotu, codecs
[05:00] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[05:00] <kitty_> nice one!!
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> kitty_ you might have to install it.
[05:00] <mtlife> how can i change the module used by a nic? ubuntu uses 8139too but I need 8139cp
[05:00] <_jason> ubotu, tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about multimedia
[05:00] <yggdrasil_> jeezuz
[05:01] <turbofisk> does ubuntu support for HFS+ as default?
[05:01] <teleyinex> because I dont know if I can change two keys: alt-key and apple-key
[05:01] <mtlife``o> how can i change the module used by a nic? ubuntu uses 8139too but I need 8139cp
[05:02] <dooglus> mindlace: it's not just a semantic difference.  "sudo su" uses more memory than "sudo -i", and results in one extra process being run (the 'su')
[05:02] <teleyinex> they are in different places, comparing this keyboard and a pc keyboard
[05:02] <teleyinex> can i do something?
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> hi folks
[05:03] <mindlace> Thorondor: sorry, it referrs to the percentage of your tasks that are active
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> http://www.xs4all.nl/~bruijn9/temp/Screenshot-QEMU-boot-progress.png
[05:03] <dooglus> mindlace: it's kind of the same difference as the difference between running "ls" compared to "bash -c ls".  they both do 'the same', but the first is more efficient
[05:03] <mindlace> iirc
[05:03] <pmjdebruijn> what part of the CDROM boot process does that? isolinux? grub?
[05:04] <dooglus> Thorondor: it stands for "wait"
[05:04] <Thorondor> dooglus: like, waiting for harddisk to read something?
[05:05] <rod> could someone say my name? Im using a different irc client and i wanna lknow if i get notificated when someone says my name
[05:05] <rod> thanks : )
[05:05] <Thorondor> rod
[05:05] <mindlace> you're so hot, rod.
[05:06] <dooglus> Thorondor: I don't know what it means, just what it stands for :)  I guess it could well be to do with waiting for IO.
[05:06] <ubuntudvd32> Help install creative webcam pd1001 driver
[05:06] <Thorondor> dooglus: thanks, i'll try to find something on the web, what could cause a high %wa value...
[05:06] <rod> thank you guys
[05:07] <rod> especially you, mindlace
[05:07] <TCTCH> Any One Knows a site where are all feature Listed from dapper? mayBe With pics?
[05:07] <dooglus> Thorondor: http://lists.debian.org/debian-amd64/2004/05/msg00304.html says "wa typically has high values if the machine is waiting to IO to complete, doesn't have anything else to do".
[05:07] <Ng> TCTCH: that would be very premature at this point, dapper will be out in april, no doubt with lots of people putting up pics of it
[05:08] <idefix_> Ng: you still there? I'm installing this fed-cad-program but I have no configure script and the sh autogen.sh command yields sh: autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[05:08] <TCTCH> Ng: I mean just a "feature" page of dapper....or "what the new features are"....
[05:08] <TCTCH> Im shure something must exist
[05:09] <Ng> TCTCH: check the wiki
[05:09] <dooglus> TCTCH: it exists - just a moment
[05:09] <nalioth> idefix_: have you been to the website for install/build instructions?
[05:09] <mtlife> does ubuntu detect new hardware after setup?
[05:09] <idefix_> nalioth: no
[05:09] <nalioth> mtlife: you mean like when you plug in a mouse or an external hard drive?
[05:09] <idefix_> nalioth, but I'm reading the README-file right now
[05:09] <dooglus> TCTCH: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3
[05:09] <nalioth> idefix_: cool idea.
[05:10] <TCTCH> dooglus: yeah...that's what I mean....thx dooglus
[05:10] <mtlife> nalioth: as in, i replaced a nic (realtek 8139b) for a new one (realtek 8139d) but now my system hangs when the cable is plugged in the new card
[05:10] <idefix_> and it says that if I don't have a configure script I'll need a relatively up-to-date version of the GNU Build System (autoconf, automake, & libtool) installed
[05:10] <mtlife> i'm wondering if the card is also broken or mayb its a module problem
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> wassup
[05:11] <idefix_> nalioth: the autogen.sh script will need to be run successfully in order to generate the configure script first
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> how can i register my nick?
[05:11] <nalioth> idefix_: do you have autoconf and all those installed?
[05:11] <nalioth> !register
[05:11] <ubotu> I guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[05:11] <WookieLuv0nMarz> !register
[05:12] <dooglus> TCTCH: see this, too: http://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-announce/2006-January/000048.html
[05:12] <idefix_> nalioth: sh autogen.sh
[05:12] <idefix_> sh: autogen.sh: No such file or directory
[05:12] <WookieLuv0nMarz> woops
[05:12] <dooglus> TCTCH: it has more news about the changes to the live cd and the install process
[05:12] <WookieLuv0nMarz> !register
[05:12] <ubotu> register is probably type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[05:12] <idefix_> nalioth, could it be that I'm in the wrong directory?
[05:12] <nalioth> idefix_: you need autoconf and automake1.7 at a minimum installed
[05:12] <nalioth> idefix_: that is also a possibility
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ubuntu woes?
[05:13] <idefix_> is this stuff standardly installed?
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> what are you trying to install?
[05:13] <pje> crimsun *highlight*
[05:13] <nalioth> idefix_: no it is not. there are no developer tools by default in ubuntu
[05:13] <idefix_> brl-cad
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> like a cad program?
[05:13] <idefix_> yesss
[05:13] <WookieLuv0nMarz> use qcad or whatever
[05:13] <nalioth> idefix_: install 'build-essential autoconf automake1.7"
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> sudo aptitude install qcad
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> der
[05:14] <idefix_> so it is on the burnt ubuntu CD but not unpacked and/or installed yet..
[05:14] <mtlife> can someone please answer my question :)
[05:14] <WookieLuv0nMarz> open a terminal and fetch it from the network
[05:15] <nalioth> idefix_: build-essential is on the cd, but the auto things are online
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> what question
[05:15] <idefix_> don't you mean install "build-essential autoconf automake1.7" ?
[05:15] <nalioth> idefix_: sudo apt-get install
[05:15] <mtlife> WookieLuv0nMarz: does ubuntu detect if I replace one nic, for an other?
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> same thing
[05:15] <WookieLuv0nMarz> apt-gett aptitude synaptec all the samwe
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> i think so.
[05:16] <idefix_> nalioth: how do I know for sure that my PC won't crash tragically?
[05:16] <pje> can anyody help me to configure my skype plz :)
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hotplug
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> try it
[05:16] <nalioth> idefix_: none of us can know the date our boxen will go up in flames
[05:16] <ITSa341> mtlife: It should as the two nics will have different mac addresses
[05:16] <SEJeff> !enter
[05:16] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if you fail you will know at least
[05:16] <idefix_> I installed some program before, the apt-get install command has probably been executed already
[05:16] <TCTCH> dooglus: thx for the infos
[05:16] <WookieLuv0nMarz> well back up your astuff
[05:16] <pje> can anyody help me to configure my skype plz :)
[05:16] <benkong2> i have an install question. installing ubuntu on a laptop that has winxp and gentoo already partitions are hda1=winxp hda2=swap hda3=fat32part hda5=boot hda6=gentoo hda7=ubuntu hda8=home. Ubuntu is asking where to place grub and i already have grub installed. what can or should i choose?
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> and install ubuntu breezy or dapper
[05:17] <idefix_> nalioth?
[05:17] <mtlife> ITSa341: but what if the chipset is almost the same? because.. it now hangs when I'm trying to use the nic
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> grub goes on hda0
[05:17] <nalioth> idefix_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[05:17] <benkong2> WookieLuv0nMarz; is that for me?
[05:17] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yup
[05:18] <ITSa341> mtlife  did you run <systems><administration><networking> and configure the new nic?
[05:18] <benkong2> WookieLuv0nMarz; it will overwrite my existing files correct?
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hda1 or 0 whatever the first partition on the first drive is
[05:18] <KenThede> hi I wanted to know where to go to get ubuntu source code
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> the mbr i think yera
[05:18] <SEJeff> WookieLuv0nMarz, there is no such thing as hda0.
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> it should give you a list of os's to chose from
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> hda1 then
[05:18] <SEJeff> WookieLuv0nMarz, in grub format, it is (hd0,0)
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ok kisten to jeff he has answers now
[05:18] <benkong2> it does i just did not want to overwrite the existing grub.conf
[05:18] <WookieLuv0nMarz> listen too
[05:19] <WookieLuv0nMarz> back it up
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, back up /boot/grub/menu.lst from your gentoo install
[05:19] <mtlife> ITSa341: thats not really the problem, the nic is configured and my system wont hang as long it is not attached to a network cable.. but when i attach it, and try to acces internet.. it hangs (its the nic for internet)
[05:19] <benkong2> ok backing up......
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, Actually, back up all of /boot
[05:19] <JonnyBlazeRS> can anyone tell me if its possible to install ubuntu thru the network on a laptop with no cdrom using boot floppies?
[05:19] <SEJeff> benkong2, then you will have to add the files back, and merge /boot/grub/menu.lst with the old one to make it work
[05:19] <KenThede> hello anyone listening to me I want to know where to go to get ubuntu source code
[05:19] <WookieLuv0nMarz> i would just swap nics and reinstall ubuntu if you had doubts.
[05:19] <ITSa341> mtlife  is it using dhcp or manual IPs?
[05:20] <mtlife> static
[05:20] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if your desktop has pcmcia support it should find the new pcmcia device every boot
[05:20] <SEJeff> KenThede, 'apt-get source gaim' will download the source for gaim
[05:20] <ITSa341> mtlife: and it hangs when you plug in the cable?
[05:20] <mtlife> ITSa341: yes
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yea you have to configure the nic too. activate it and all
[05:21] <cello_rasp> how do i make a tar of my home directory?
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> dhcp and static and all that
[05:21] <mtlife> yes but an unconfigured nic shouldnt crash the system should it?
[05:21] <mtlife> and it is configured ;)
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> so is anyone here not having ubuntu problems?
[05:21] <WookieLuv0nMarz> (raise hand)
[05:21] <mtlife> hehe
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> so diable it then swap cards and re enable it
[05:22] <ITSa341> mtlife: You might try dhcp as your server may be holding that IP allocated for your old card. Every NIC has a unique mac address.
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> google it
[05:22] <intero> where can i search for ubuntu bugs? something like debian.bugs.org. i can't find the url...
[05:22] <mike_> Can anyone help me install realplayer and get it to work with firefox?
[05:22] <Ng> intero: launchpad.net
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> yes
[05:22] <mtlife> ITSa341: so just reconfigure it?
[05:22] <WookieLuv0nMarz> get realplayer and other codecs from the restricted formats ubuntu page
[05:23] <WookieLuv0nMarz> easy to follow directions there
[05:23] <intero> Ng: thanks
[05:23] <ITSa341> mtlife, reconfigure the new card and try it
[05:23] <ITSa341> nothing to lose
[05:23] <WookieLuv0nMarz> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> if you also install the codecs from the ubuntiguide.org page you should be able to play almost anything very well
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell intero about malone
[05:24] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[05:24] <ubotu> [ubuntuguide]  out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[05:24] <mike_> WookieLuv0nMarz, the apt-get is no good and dont work, I've downloaded this http://www.real.com/linux
[05:24] <nalioth> WookieLuv0nMarz: please don't advise that site
[05:24] <mike_> but i cant get it to work
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> no apt-get its a .deb download with install directions
[05:24] <intero> nalioth: thanks
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> realplayer 10 i think
[05:24] <JonnyBlazeRS> can anyone tell me if its possible to install ubuntu thru the network on a laptop with no cdrom using boot floppies?
[05:24] <mtlife> ITSa341: still hangs when i plug in the cable, even with dhcp
[05:24] <mike_> yes and it does not work
[05:24] <WookieLuv0nMarz> ok
[05:25] <WookieLuv0nMarz> my bad
[05:25] <mtlife> ITSa341: think the card is broken, thats the 2nd one today..
[05:25] <WookieLuv0nMarz> any other ubuntu chats?
[05:25] <mtlife> ITSa341: now gonna try a 3com card, if that one doesnt work either i will reinstall ubuntu :p
[05:25] <nalioth> WookieLuv0nMarz: #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:25] <ITSa341> mtlife:  good luck with it
[05:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mtlife about hardware
[05:25] <SEJeff> JonnyBlazeRS, You should be able to use the Debian netboot floppies to install from an ubuntu repository. I've never done that though
[05:27] <sweet_kate> please i need help with no-ip.com: i registered but when i try ***.no-ip.com i get my router config page(i have already set port forwarding to address 192.168.0.2 on port 80)! help!!
[05:27] <benkong2> brb rebooting thanks SEJeff ; and WookieLuvOnMarz
[05:28] <Keyseir> Which kernel version does breezy use?
[05:28] <SEJeff> Keyseir, 2.6.12 I believe
[05:28] <sweet_kate> i used this site http://www.canyouseeme.org/ to check if port 80 is open and it is!
[05:29] <SEJeff> Keyseir, dapper uses 2.6.15
[05:29] <mtlife> 2.6.12 :)
[05:29] <rseeber> is there graphical man pages?
[05:29] <rseeber> *are
[05:29] <p> has anyone managed to use gnome-bluetooth-manager to browse a mobile?
[05:30] <kjcole> Hi all. I want some help with deciding to report (or not report) a Dapper-esque bug.  I looked for a report on Malone, but didn't find it.  Am not certain if I introduced the problem myself (though I don't think so.)
[05:30] <dracflamloc> hey folks. can anyone help me out. my laptop when in the console, cuts off a bunch of lines at the bottom. its native res is 1280x768. anyone know how to fix this?
[05:30] <idefix_> nalioth: are you still in kubuntu-offtopic?
[05:30] <Keyseir> thx
[05:31] <idefix_> kkathman are you here?
[05:31] <Keyseir> Can anyone else confirm what kernel revision breezy uses or direct me to the appropriate place on the project site?
[05:32] <mustard5> sweet_kate, its a pretty specialised question..you might need to wait for the right person to come along that knows the answer
[05:32] <SEJeff> Keyseir, do you use breezy
[05:32] <Keyseir> Yep
[05:32] <SEJeff> mustard5, well ask it
[05:32] <scanwinder> im trying to compile vlc in ubuntu and im getting the following error: "ffmpeg.c:49:44: error: libpostproc/postprocess.h: No such file or directory" ....anyone know how to fix that?
[05:32] <SEJeff> Keyseir, uname -r
[05:32] <Keyseir> SEJeff Ah.
[05:33] <SEJeff> Keyseir, it will tell you 2.6.12 just like 2 people have already told you :)
[05:33] <nalioth> sweet_kate: if you are using ubutnu, having open ports is not a problem
[05:33] <mustard5> SEJeff, sweet_kate asked the question, not me :)
[05:33] <mtlife> ok.. the 3com card just works :p
[05:33] <kjcole> During bootup with 2.6.15-12-686, I see "udevd-event[2814] : run_program: '/sbin/modprobe' abnormal exit" and there it hangs...
[05:33] <SEJeff> mustard5, gotcha
[05:33] <mtlife> seems like my other cards are really broken, gonna test them in windows though :p
[05:33] <Keyseir> SEJeff, heh, thanks. Just wanted to be positive... rather important for some things. I appreciate the help.
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, Ubuntu has a policy of 0 open ports in the default install. The reason ubuntu doesn' t have a firewall is because there are no open ports by default
[05:34] <sweet_kate> SEJeff: so i must open that port on linux, too?
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, open up firefox and go to http://localhost:80.
[05:34] <SEJeff> sweet_kate, Well did you install apache
[05:35] <pje> crimsun *highlight*
[05:35] <sweet_kate> yes
[05:35] <bedi> how i execute automatix ?
[05:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bedi about automatix
[05:36] <abionnnn> anyone here experienced in upgrading the ATI firegl drivers?
[05:36] <rseeber> is there a gui for the man pages?
[05:36] <bedi> hum
[05:36] <bedi> ugh!
[05:36] <nicholaspaul> Oi. Anyone know of a Dapper channel?
[05:36] <nalioth> nicholaspaul: you are in it
[05:36] <C-O-L-T> which office suite for linux lets me to modify pdf files?
[05:36] <gimmulf_>   /join #ubuntu.se
[05:36] <gimmulf_> oops
[05:37] <SEJeff> nicholaspaul, if you don't know, you likely shouldn't be using dapper
[05:37] <SEJeff> rseeber, hit ALT F2 and type yelp
[05:37] <KenThede> hey check out www.computerken.4t.com
[05:37] <KenThede> hey check out www.computerken.4t.com
[05:37] <nicholaspaul> G thanks SEJeff
[05:37] <nicholaspaul> Thanks nalioth :)
[05:37] <Ng> C-O-L-T: no office suite on any platform lets you modify pdf files
[05:38] <Huh-Bubbles> Do I need to get in a private chat to ask for help, or am I allowed to ask in the channel?
[05:39] <C-O-L-T> Ng: for windows there is Adobe Acrobat Professional, I think that lets you to modify pdf
[05:39] <SEJeff> C-O-L-T, yes. Acrobat professional is proprietary and expensive.
[05:39] <Ng> C-O-L-T: it lets you make very simple modifications, but it is by no means an office suite. you should modify the original document and generate a new PDF
[05:40] <nalioth> Huh-Bubbles: this is the help chanel for ubuntu. ask away
[05:40] <ITSa341> Huh-Bubbles:  Just ask your question and be patient. There are more questions than people answering them.
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> Ng: C-O-L-T's right. Youre going to need a purchased app to modify pdf's. its worth it if you use the full extent of the pdf format.
[05:40] <Ng> nicholaspaul: I am fully aware of that, as I just explained to him ;)
[05:40] <Ng> I used to use acrobat professional at least weekly
[05:40] <mlehrer> is mythtv available in one of the standard sources?
[05:40] <nicholaspaul> excellent :) Ng. Just trying to help.
[05:41] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: but I can not use Adobe Acrobat Professional on Ubuntu right?
[05:41] <mlehrer> i have universe & multiverse enabled, but apt-cache search can't find it
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> Ng. Pretty cool aint it?
[05:41] <Huh-Bubbles> I downloaded ubuntu, and I don't seem to have an image file.
[05:41] <Ng> nicholaspaul: no, I hate it ;)
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> no C-O-L-T. its only avail. for Win and OSX
[05:41] <nicholaspaul> Ng oh! I love it... but thats a difft topic.
[05:41] <rseeber> SEJeff: my F2 key doesn't work....that's the only one, is there another way?
[05:42] <SEJeff> rseeber, Open up a terminal and type yelp &
[05:42] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: than what to do? Should I use windows :)
[05:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mlehrer about mythtv
[05:42] <nicholaspaul> C-O-L-T: pretty much.
[05:42] <rseeber> thanks
[05:42] <pje> can't anybody help my to make my lovely skype run?
[05:42] <harharhar> could someone helpme install skype_1.2.0.18-1_i386.deb on my computer? i'm using ubuntu ver 5.10
[05:42] <ITSa341> will adobe acrobat professional run in Crossover Office?
[05:43] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341: no.
[05:43] <picasso> by default, does ubuntu have an outgoing smtp server?
[05:43] <ITSa341> bummer
[05:43] <rseeber> SEJeff: thanks
[05:43] <pje> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto @ harhar
[05:43] <SEJeff> rseeber, no prob
[05:43] <pje> but can't say that it works very good
[05:43] <picasso> echo test | mail me@domain.com .. not getting there
[05:43] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341: as we were saying, Acrobat is a sep. app. that only runs on win and osx.  :(
[05:43] <picasso> and not seeing any traffic w/ ethereal
[05:44] <harharhar> tnx pje
[05:44] <ITSa341> nicholaspaul  so is MS office but I run it under Ubuntu with crossover office
[05:44] <ITSa341> MS Office 2003
[05:44] <SEJeff> picasso, sudo apt-get install postfix
[05:44] <nicholaspaul> ITSa341:  do you have a purch. copy of Acrobat?
[05:44] <picasso> sejeff: postfix seems installed. perhaps it's just not configured to ruN?
[05:44] <ITSa341> No, that is why I don't know if Adobe will load under crossover
[05:44] <picasso> this is a pretty new 5.10 install, definitely havent changed any mail settings
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: where can I get crossover office?
[05:45] <picasso> postfix seems to be running, also
[05:45] <ITSa341> nicholaspaul: I can tell you that AOL and MS Office work flawlessly for me under Crossover Office
[05:45] <milan_> How do I get java working in Opera?
[05:45] <SEJeff> picasso, I'm not sure if postfix is installed by default on breezy and I know it's not on dapper. Does dpkg -L postfix give you an error?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> !dapper
[05:45] <ubotu> well, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[05:45] <C-O-L-T> nicholaspaul: I am using Thinkfree Office which looks like ms office, it is 100% compatible with it, and really feels like ms office
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> hmm..
[05:46] <milan_> I created symobolic links to the relevant *.so java files, but still no luck
[05:46] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  Crossover Office should tell on their page which apps will run and some not listed still work
[05:46] <picasso> sejeff: postfix is running, just doesnt seem to be sending messages
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> heh - wanting to test out dapper on my new box. but cant find the url to download the cd.
[05:46] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[05:46] <dracflamloc> hey folks. can anyone help me out. my laptop when in the console, cuts off a bunch of lines at the bottom. its native res is 1280x768. anyone know how to fix this?
[05:47] <SEJeff> picasso, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix
[05:47] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T http://www.codeweavers.com/
[05:47] <picasso> ty
[05:47] <pje> no one here uses skype?
[05:47] <martii> pje: skype sux
[05:47] <martii> pje: hard to configure
[05:47] <nicholaspaul> ouch
[05:47] <SEJeff> Dr_Willis, http://cdimage.ubuntulinux.org/releases/dapper/flight-3/
[05:47] <pje> ^^
[05:47] <martii> pje: as it does not use Alsa
[05:48] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here using Dapper? I'm having wifi troubles. Anyone got Airport working with Flight 3?
[05:48] <martii> pje: they promise ALSA support this year
[05:48] <pje> i works fine for my 1st call
[05:48] <martii> pje: but when ?
[05:48] <pje> but then it doesn't work anymore...
[05:48] <martii> pje: that's bug
[05:48] <Xappe> skype with ALSA is in closed beta testing I think
[05:48] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T http://www.codeweavers.com/compatibility/search?name=&company=Adobe&medal=&date_start%5B1%5D=1&date_start%5B2%5D=1&date_start%5B0%5D=2000&date_start%5B3%5D=0&date_start%5B4%5D=00&date_end%5B1%5D=1&date_end%5B2%5D=17&date_end%5B0%5D=2006&date_end%5B3%5D=10&date_end%5B4%5D=48&search=app
[05:49] <pje> well tell me how to fix this bug :)
[05:49] <EnsignRedshirt> I want to compile a program using the Lapack library, but when I try to install lapack3-dev, synaptic wants to install cpp-3.4 (among other things).  Is there any reason I shouldn't do this?  It won't mess up my current cpp, will it?  (I'm running breezy.)
[05:49] <SEJeff> ITSa341, use www.tinyurl.com for urls that long please
[05:49] <pje> unfixable?
[05:49] <pje> ^^
[05:49] <ITSa341> SEJeff  sorry
[05:49] <martii> pje: http://juljas.net/linux/skype/
[05:49] <martii> pje: read this should help
[05:49] <SEJeff> ITSa341, no prob
[05:49] <Ng> EnsignRedshirt: it's perfectly ok to have multiple versions installed
[05:49] <pje> gr8
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> thanks SEJeff  - time to do some trouble shooting :P
[05:49] <pje> thx
[05:49] <SEJeff> Dr_Willis, have fun
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> SEJeff,  :P gotta love spare machines to test things out on.
[05:50] <nicholaspaul> Anyone here using Dapper?
[05:50] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: thanks for the info, I will download it
[05:50] <NuB> NickServ password
[05:50] <Xappe> pje: skype_dsp_hijacker is a very nice workaround
[05:50] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use Crossover Office for many apps NOT listed at their site
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: can I run programs which are installed on my windows partition
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ?
[05:51] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T I am running AOL right now. C-O-L-T  I don't know. I have no windows partition
[05:51] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: ok I see, you just run LINUX?
[05:52] <ITSa341> Ubuntu only on this machine
[05:52] <harharhar> could someone helpme install scribus on my computer? i'm using ubuntu ver 5.10
[05:52] <dracflamloc> can anyone PLEASE help me? gnome freezes when it starts up i think because its trying to play the startup sound on my modem
[05:52] <SEJeff> harharhar, sudo apt-get install scribus
[05:52] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T I know DreamWeaver, and MS Office both run with Crossover Office
[05:53] <harharhar> tnx!
[05:53] <EnsignRedshirt> Ng: OK, thanks.  I went ahead and installed everything.  So far, so good.
[05:53] <Ng> :)
[05:53] <SEJeff> harharhar, Something like 19,000+ packages are in the Ubuntu repositories
[05:53] <picasso> ugh
[05:53] <bur[n] er> ITSa341: how bout outlook with an exchange account?
[05:53] <picasso> sejeff: i just want to send mail. this is a laptop, not a server, i'm dealing with
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: are you using it legally?
[05:54] <ITSa341> bur[n] er: don't use Outlook so I have no idea
[05:54] <ITSa341> Yes
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: strange question I know
[05:54] <bur[n] er> ITSa341: just curious... it's my one app for windows still
[05:54] <yggdrasil_> how do i ls and show hidden files ?
[05:54] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I am just asking if I can find some c....cks for it
[05:54] <harharhar> SEJeff, m a newbie. sori.
[05:54] <EnsignRedshirt> yggdrasil: ls -a
[05:55] <yggdrasil_> cool
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, thats ok. Go to System --> Administration --> Synaptic Package Manager
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, search for scribus
[05:55] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use no pirated software. I have coa's for WinXP and Office XP and 2003 but got tired of MS and virus and spyware etc etc
[05:55] <SEJeff> harharhar, Synaptic is a pretty graphical wrapper around apt-get
[05:55] <yorouichi> anyone got via-unchrome working on 64bit?
[05:56] <lockhead> can i set background color in emacs, from white to black?
[05:56] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I see :)
[05:56] <harharhar> SEJeff, it cant find scribus
[05:56] <tuxie> anyone managed to make apt-build work on ppc? I only get "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables" on all configure-scripts :(
[05:56] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I am a MS OEM so I can buy their products cheap, just tired of the hassles and want to move UP
[05:57] <tuxie> apt-src works however
[05:57] <EnsignRedshirt> lockhead: You can practically run the universe from emacs, so I'm sure changing the color should be possible. :)
[05:57] <harharhar> SEJeff, tried apt-get but terminal replied: cant find package
[05:57] <lockhead> without learning lisp or something like that
[05:57] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I am a home user, you know how much it costs that stupid ms office? I use open office which is far far better as far as I am concerned
[05:58] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  I use Open Office in our offices. We do have MS Office installed at out property management offices for Access since our reservation database is nased on it.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> I find Abiword does all i need. :P which is minimal i admit...
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> lol
[05:59] <EnsignRedshirt> lockhead: xemacs has command line options -fg and -bg for foreground and background colors.
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> kids dont need OOo for a book report.  or small paper.
[05:59] <SEJeff> harharhar, Open up synaptic and to to Settings --> Repositories --> Add. Check community maintained and non-free or restricted
[05:59] <lockhead> thanks EnsignRedshirt
[05:59] <SEJeff> harharhar, that is from memory so it might be a bit different
[06:00] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: at microsoft everything is based on money. JUST money and money.
[06:00] <ITSa341> I read that two states are planning a migration to linux on their school comps. Glad to see it happening.
[06:00] <SEJeff> ITSa341, A few cities in Mass. Several in OR and some in IN have already
[06:00] <ITSa341> Wish my son's school would switch them on their laptops to Ubuntu
[06:00] <ITSa341> SEJeff COOL
[06:01] <SEJeff> ITSa341, and it looks like maine also: http://desktoplinux.com/articles/AT8952848817.html
[06:01] <ITSa341> The school system my son is in gives them laptops starting in 6th grade and they upgrade them every two years. Just think how much moving to Ubuntu could save them.
[06:01] <tuxie> ITSa341, not having seen the app, I guess it would only take a few hours to rewrite it in something like ruby on rails, a day to write the unit tests and a week to transfer the existing data :)
[06:01] <Elcoco> can anyone help me with a problem i have with linuxdcpp
[06:02] <yyw> ITSa341:May be edubuntu?
[06:02] <ITSa341> I want to try edubuntu. I just heard about it yesterday
[06:02] <SEJeff> ITSa341, Not a whole lot. Windows cost is likely integrated into the price of the laptop.
[06:03] <SEJeff> ITSa341, meaning they would still have to pay for windows if they put linux on the laptops
[06:03] <ITSa341> we have 1/2 inch of ice on our roads here. I'm staying in today
[06:03] <mustard5> Elcoco, I probably can't help you, but I would just describe the problem
[06:03] <ITSa341> SEJeff   Yes, but also figure in Office and other apps
[06:03] <mustard5> Elcoco, no-one will know until you tell them what the problem is
[06:03] <tuxie> ubuntu, kubuntu, edubuntu, xubuntu.. have I missed any? :P
[06:03] <SEJeff> ITSa341, I agree with you in that regard
[06:03] <SEJeff> tuxie, nubuntu, the embedded ubuntu distro
[06:04] <yyw> so many!
[06:04] <Elcoco> the thing is i cant search any hubs while im in active
[06:04] <Elcoco>  and im not using a router or anything like that
[06:04] <Elcoco> , just a ethernet connection and pppoe to connect
[06:04] <SEJeff> tuxie, Actually I was wrong. nubuntu is the computer security derivative. There is an embedded version of ubuntu they are working on
[06:04] <ITSa341> SEJeff my son's teacher was amazed he was able to do his homework in Open Office and turn it in in MS format for her.
[06:05] <sweet_kate> has kubuntu a TEMP folder to be emptied like in windows?
[06:05] <ITSa341> SEJeff is Ubuntu available for xbox yet?
[06:05] <mustard5> sweet_kate, no..its done automatically
[06:05] <sweet_kate> has kubuntu a TEMP folder (that can be emptied) like in windows?
[06:05] <sweet_kate> ok
[06:05] <SEJeff> ITSa341, not that I know of
[06:05] <sweet_kate> i need space on my pc
[06:05] <sweet_kate> how can i obtain it
[06:05] <yyw> in ubuntu is /tmp
[06:05] <sweet_kate> what can i delete that is big?
[06:05] <ITSa341> SEJeff bummer I own SystemBytes and we install linux, windows and 300GB drives on xboxes
[06:05] <mustard5> sweet_kate, try going into synaptic and telling it to delete the downloaded packages
[06:06] <mustard5> sweet_kate, its in the synaptic preferences
[06:06] <sweet_kate> ok
[06:06] <gnomefreak> mustard5: is that same as apt-get clean?
[06:06] <sweet_kate> aptitude clean is the same from shell?
[06:06] <user2> serial2k
[06:06] <mustard5> gnomefreak, yes
[06:06] <C-O-L-T> ITSa341: I have a personal question, cause if I remember you are a microsoft developer, or something like that?
[06:06] <ITSa341> MS OEM
[06:06] <dracflamloc> when i try and login to gnome, it just sits there with the mouse cursor, but nothing ever shows up, just a greay screen witht he mouse cursor
[06:06] <martii> I need help with alsa, modprobe
[06:07] <jariep1_> can somebody help me out with my php/mysql/apache setup... I have phpmyadmin and i can access mysql, but mysql doesn't show up in phpinfo??
[06:07] <Seveas> !lamp
[06:07] <ubotu> rumour has it, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[06:07] <ITSa341> C-O-L-T  pm me
[06:07] <martii> I have no idea where to look in ubuntu to have my custom modprobe
[06:07] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: good can you please intergate a chmod command for dos?
[06:07] <SEJeff> jariep1_, yes, that is a problem that took me 3 days to solve
[06:07] <SEJeff> jariep1_, Are you using php4 or php5?
[06:08] <jariep1_> php4
[06:08] <ITSa341> gnomefreak I am just a systembuilder who gets special pricing on MS OEM products. I know nothing about programming.
[06:08] <tuxie> martii, /etc/modules ?
[06:08] <Seveas> jariep1_, apt-get install php4-mysql and restart apache
[06:08] <SEJeff> jariep1_, sudo apt-get install php4-mysql. php has to have the mysql module to access it
[06:09] <SEJeff> Seveas, beat me to it :)
[06:09] <clifford|BIS>  quit
[06:09] <clifford|BIS> sorry
[06:09] <viller> hi
[06:09] <viller> how to change gtk colors?
[06:10] <AMDXP> hello folks
[06:10] <jariep1_> SEJeff, Seveas, I have php4-mysql installed
[06:10] <tuxie> viller: afaik they are static to most themes
[06:11] <Ap4ch3> is there a *nix binary newsreader that can handle newsbin files?
[06:11] <Seveas> jariep1_, and you restarted apache after installing it?
[06:11] <AMDXP> i fubar'ed my xfce4 i tried to uninstall it and install it back but it still doesnt work do i need to uninstall the old folders?
[06:11] <harharhar> are there laptops in the market that have installed ubuntu?
[06:11] <Ng> Ap4ch3: klibido seems to
[06:11] <tuxie> viller: you can use gtk2-engines-gtk-qt and set the colors with kde's kconfig :)
[06:11] <jariep1_> yes, i installed it last night, shut down then restarted today
[06:11] <viller> tuxie: i installed a metacity theme and it used my gtk colors
[06:12] <tuxie> I haven't used Gnome since 2.4 or so, things may have changed since then..
[06:12] <Seveas> tuxie, a lot and for the better :)
[06:13] <SEJeff> tuxie, Yes. Quite a bit. Gnome 2.10+ makes for a very nice desktop
[06:13] <jariep1_> Seveas, SEJeff, i installed yesterday, shutdown, then restarted this morning
[06:13] <Seveas> jariep1_, hmm, can you point us to your phpinfo() page?
[06:13] <nicholaspaul> harharhar your best bet is to buy one with no OS , since Ubuntu is always being updated.
[06:13] <jariep1_> sure
[06:14] <pje> Xappe, how does  skype_dsp_hijacker work?
[06:14] <pje> or martii
[06:14] <pje> :)
[06:14] <harharhar> nicholaspaul, do they have websites? i wish to see them
[06:14] <tuxie> actually I'm running it right now and it's pretty nice.. I just installed ubuntu on my powermac g5 and I'm apt-src compiling kde 3.5.0 from the kubuntu kde35 source packages :)
[06:14] <viller> does anyone else know how to change gtk's colors?
[06:14] <nicholaspaul> harharhar: does who have websites?
[06:14] <RobinL> how to make wget download to another directory in one line without using CD?
[06:14] <midas> hi
[06:15] <RobinL> ahh
[06:15] <RobinL> found it
[06:15] <RobinL> :)
[06:15] <jariep1_> http:// 69.148.189.219/lucid/infophp , Seveas, SEJeff
[06:15] <midas> can somebody tell me a good prog to change avi to mpeg ??
[06:15] <jariep1_> oops
[06:15] <jariep1_> http://69.148.189.219/lucid/info.php
[06:15] <SEJeff> jariep1_, Sorry, I've got to leave now
[06:15] <gnomefreak> im thinking just add the dir at the end of the wget command
[06:15] <tuxie> midas: ffmpeg
[06:15] <jariep1_> ok, SEJeff
[06:16] <mtlife> how can i forward dns?
[06:16] <martii> tuxie: hmmm
[06:16] <martii> tuxie: there is modprobe.conf as well
[06:16] <Linux_Newbie> hi
[06:16] <dracflamloc> when i try and login to gnome, it just sits there with the mouse cursor, but nothing ever shows up, just a greay screen witht he mouse cursor
[06:16] <SEJeff> mtlife, A CNAME record. Ok, I am really leaving now
[06:16] <martii> tuxie: so I have no idea. should I play with alsa-bas in /etc/modules
[06:16] <Linux_Newbie> is anybody here who can help me??
[06:16] <martii> tuxie: or with /etc/modprobe.conf
[06:16] <Linux_Newbie> can anybody speak german?
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> Nein
[06:17] <pje> wie nein?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> or is tht Neit.
[06:17] <pje> oO
[06:17] <gnomefreak> !du
[06:17] <midas> tuxie,  ill try that thx ;)
[06:17] <ubotu> gnomefreak: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> :P
[06:17] <Linux_Newbie> bitte helft mir
[06:17] <nicholaspaul> Linux_Newbie: we might be able to help in English...just ask away :)
[06:17] <Linux_Newbie> ich bin ein neuling in der unixwelt
[06:17] <Dr_Willis> Strudle!
[06:17] <Linux_Newbie> ich habe windoof satt
[06:17] <Linux_Newbie> gerade benutze ich ubuntu linux
[06:17] <pje> ich bald ubuntu ><
[06:17] <tuxie> martii, /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:17] <Linux_Newbie> bitte helft mir
[06:17] <pje> martii have u a little more time for my skype problem?
[06:17] <CrAzYoNi> How can I see which services are running on my computer from the Konsole?
[06:18] <Linux_Newbie> also 1. ich hab "wine" installiert. Nur es funktioniert nicht. Ich kann es im Startmen nich finden
[06:18] <gnomefreak> CrAzYoNi: ps aux
[06:18] <Linux_Newbie> bitte helft mir
[06:18] <tuxie> Linux_Newbie, englisch bitte :)
[06:18] <martii> tuxie: so this one has priority?
[06:18] <mustard5> RobinL, I can see something in the manual about --directory-prefix=
[06:18] <martii> pje: what's wrong ?
[06:18] <Linux_Newbie> ich kann kein gutes englisch:-(
[06:18] <tristanmike> Anyone use Mondo before?
[06:18] <pje> nothing just don't know what to do
[06:19] <sandrina> you can join #ubuntu-de
[06:19] <mustard5> !de
[06:19] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:19] <Linux_Newbie> #ubuntu-de
[06:19] <pje> downloaded the file
[06:19] <pje> and tried to run it with 2nd card
[06:19] <pje> but same problem...
[06:19] <martii> pje: read what's there
[06:19] <pje> did it
[06:19] <CrAzYoNi> gnomefreak, it shows me all the proccess, I want to see only the services..
[06:19] <martii> pje: do you have second card?
[06:20] <CrAzYoNi> P.S how can I start stop services from the Konsole?
[06:20] <CrAzYoNi> P.s thanks for the command gnomefreak :-)
[06:20] <pje> yes
[06:20] <harharhar> nicholaspaul, websites of sellers of os-free laptops
[06:20] <gnomefreak> define services?
[06:20] <pje> but doenst work anyway
[06:20] <CrAzYoNi> pureftpd
[06:20] <CrAzYoNi> wu-ftpd
[06:20] <yyw> CrAzYoNi:update-rc.d
[06:20] <tuxie> CrAzYoNi, /etc/init.d/*
[06:20] <martii> pje: is it working under linux?
[06:20] <pje> not with 1st not with 2nd
[06:20] <CrAzYoNi> I want to run one of them on my system..
[06:20] <nicholaspaul> harharhar: oh right. Are you looking for a new one?
[06:20] <pje> it is working unter windows :D
[06:21] <martii> pje: BTW why don't U try www.openwengo.org?
[06:21] <NuB> HELP -l
[06:21] <mtlife> how can i setup ubuntu so that it functions as a dns server? like in dhcp that it gives as dns 192.168.1.1 (which is my box)
[06:21] <pje> will give it a try :)
[06:21] <martii> pje: sorry I have to go now
[06:21] <pje> okay bye
[06:21] <yyw> update-rc.d start NN n .
[06:21] <martii> pje: be back in 2 hours
[06:21] <pje> thx
[06:21] <harharhar> yes. but if there are good deals on 2nd hand laptops, y not? :)
[06:21] <martii> pje: /msg me if you're going to be here
[06:22] <midas> tuxie,  can you tell me please how to change a avi to mpeg with that ??
[06:22] <mustard5> what's up NuB ? :)
[06:22] <midas> im on sourceforge but there are too many options :(
[06:22] <CrAzYoNi> Thanks for the info
[06:22] <hdn_> Hi. I am really new in Linux but I would like to get my sound to work so I can use Skype. When I am trying to send sound to /dev/dsp I get an error saying that it is busy. Can you help me. Please. Helene.
[06:23] <pje> okay martii have a godd time ;)
[06:23] <MrKeuner> hi, is there a page on ubuntu web site for a list of notebooks which ubuntu totally supports?
[06:23] <mustard5> hdn_, try this command in terminal  ps -e | grep esd
[06:23] <mustard5> hdn_, tell me if it outputs esd
[06:24] <nicholaspaul> harharhar: I'd recommend IBM thinkpads.
[06:24] <gnomefreak> later all nap time
[06:24] <weedar> In which repository do I find azureus?
[06:25] <hdn_> mustard5,    7563 ?        00:00:03 esd
[06:25] <_jason> ubotu, tell weedar about azureus
[06:25] <mustard5> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[06:25] <tristanmike> how do I know which node in /dev is my DVD burner??
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell weedar about azureus
[06:25] <tuxie> midas:   ffmpeg -i foo.avi bar.mpeg
[06:25] <mustard5> hdn_, type killall esd in terminal
[06:25] <weedar> thanks _jason and gnomefreak  :-)
[06:25] <gnomefreak> yw
[06:25] <midas> tuxie,  try that thx again ;)
[06:25] <gnomefreak> ok the /away command doesnt work with irssi
[06:25] <mustard5> hdn_, I think you might have more luck if you went to our sound options and disabled the 'sound server'
[06:26] <gnomefreak> how do i go away?
[06:26] <mustard5> hdn_, thats the process that is running in the background that is tying up your sound
[06:26] <newuser> i want to sort a column of names and have the other columns on the sheet sort also. in OO calc.
[06:26] <nicholaspaul> MrKeuner: there is. try hunting around ubuntulinux.org.
[06:26] <mustard5> hdn_, its in System>>Preferences>>Sound
[06:27] <tuxie> midas:  you probably want to set bitrate etc though.. like ffmpeg -i foo.avi -b 800 bar.mpeg .. check the manpage
[06:27] <weedar> oh mustard5, thanks for the link (sorry, I thought you were the bot ;)
[06:27] <mustard5> hdn_, untick the 'enable sound server at startup' and you won't have esd running in the background at the start, but you will lose those little noises it makes normally
[06:27] <mustard5> weedar, np
[06:27] <mustard5> :)
[06:27] <midas> tuxie,  you helped me a lot thx thx thx !!!! :D
[06:28] <vircuser> holycow what's up? back at it again huh
[06:28] <tuxie> :)
[06:28] <hdn_> I have killed esd and it still says device or resource busy. I have also tried in System>>Preferences>>Sound
[06:28] <NuB> HELP HELP
[06:28] <jariep1_> Seveas, hold on something happened to my setup, for some reason I can't access it through the web
[06:28] <mustard5> hdn_, restart skype?
[06:28] <serg284> hi all. i hope anyone can help me in this. i'v been doing some updates with 'update manager'. now, i'd like to burn them in cd to use them on my future  installations of ubuntu. how do i do this?
[06:29] <mustard5> serg284, one second ..I have a link
[06:29] <serg284> thx must
[06:29] <bur[n] er> serg284: burn all .debs in /var/apt/archives/
[06:30] <mustard5> serg284, what bur[n] er says is good, but you can do this too, which is much more complicated. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptMoveHowto
[06:30] <tristanmike> Can someone help me determine which file in /dev is by dvd burner? I'm trying to use Mondo Rescue and i suspect it won't work because the /dev location is set up incorrectly
[06:30] <malikyo> anyone know how to edit the xfce start menu?
[06:30] <serg284> thx mustard.
[06:30] <mustard5> serg284, I think its /var/cache/apt/archives too
[06:30] <benkong2> hi all I want kdm to launch without the checker background where can i set serverargs in ubuntu? something like "ServerArgsLocal=-nolisten tcp -br -dpi 110"
[06:31] <serg284> burner ,after i burn them, should i put sth on the sources.list , on my next ubuntu installation or sth?
[06:31] <bur[n] er> wtf is sth?
[06:31] <serg284> sth=something
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> :0
[06:31] <vircuser> holycow i want to dual boot, i have win xp on primary master, ubuntu on primary slave, i just loaded ubuntu instal disk and tried to load the grub nothing happened, do i have to reinstall linux on same hd as winxp (pri  master) ?
[06:31] <mustard5> serg284, if you do it bur[n] er s way you would have to manually put them back in the /var/cache/apt/archive directory
[06:31] <benkong2> i have searched for a kdmrc but cannot fine one
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> copy the files to the other machines   /var/apt/archives/
[06:31] <bur[n] er> mustard5 is right serg284
[06:32] <serg284> got it.! thx!
[06:32] <serg284> seems easy enough.!
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. for a network - one could just have /var/apt/archives on a nfs share couldent ya?
[06:32] <mustard5> serg284, yeah..I do it all the time..moving files from one drive to another
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> that could save some time.
[06:32] <bur[n] er> mustard5: or dpkg -i /media/cdrom/*.deb
[06:32] <malikyo> anyone know how to edit the xfce start menu?
[06:32] <mustard5> bur[n] er, that one is new to me...I'll have to check it out :)
[06:33] <ubuntu> :P
[06:33] <ubuntu> hehhe
[06:33] <serg284> burner. thats a cool one. im surprised i understand that! thx, even faster.
[06:33] <ubuntu> selam
[06:33] <mustard5> hdn_, ?  is it working?
[06:33] <bur[n] er> serg284: throw a sudo in there too though ;)
[06:33] <malikyo> any xfce gurus in here
[06:33] <kuanacs> spanish channel, please?
[06:33] <mustard5> !es
[06:34] <ubuntu> ne diyonuz yaw
[06:34] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:34] <Dr_Willis> malikyo,  aparently not :P try the  ubuntu wiki/forums yet?
[06:34] <malikyo> yes
[06:34] <serg284> burner. most excellent.thx
[06:34] <malikyo> and I've googled the hell ouf of it
[06:34] <vircuser> anybody i want to dual boot, i hve win xp on pri master, ubuntu on pri slave from previous install, can i load the boot grub because i put the install cd in and tried and it didn't, any special instructions
[06:34] <malikyo> I guuess I'll just live wht the settings that are there
[06:34] <ubuntu> hepinizim amna korum ipne ocuklar ne diyonuz
[06:35] <ubuntu> ubuntu siksin sizi
[06:35] <mustard5> malikyo, hang out in here and jump someone who starts talking about xfce ;)
[06:35] <malikyo> sounds good
[06:35] <malikyo> I'll try
[06:35] <vircuser> anybody i want to dual boot, i hve win xp on pri master, ubuntu on pri slave from previous install, can i load the boot grub because i put the install cd in and tried and it didn't, any special instructions
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> xfce i belive is some how parsing all the .desktop files of the normal ubuntu menu structure. You can proberly check the xfce docs and make your own custome menu entries.
[06:35] <malikyo> the only reason I'm using xfce is because I have ubuntu on an older laptop
[06:36] <mustard5> vircuser, still reading...
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> or remove the xfce panel items with the other menus and just make your own custome launcher.
[06:36] <mustard5> vircuser, so did you install windows after ubuntu?
[06:36] <Dr_Willis> bbl
[06:37] <mustard5> vircuser, or are you saying you just put a new drive in with ubuntu on it?
[06:37] <malikyo> and I can always add certain programs to the panel
[06:37] <tuxie> why not merge ubuntu/kubuntu/xubuntu? afaik almost all packages are the same anyway, except a few defaults and settings..
[06:37] <jariep1__> Seveas, if you are there i have a dynamic IP so let me give you new IP in private message
[06:37] <DShepherd> tuxie: why not just merge windows, linux and mac?
[06:38] <malikyo> does this red line appear after every 10th message or so
[06:38] <malikyo> I'm new to xchat
[06:38] <DShepherd> tuxie: they serve different tastes..
[06:38] <mustard5> malikyo, its when your nick is in the text
[06:38] <DShepherd> tuxie: they are the same.. beneath just different DM/WE
[06:38] <mustard5> malikyo, if you type my nick in your message I see it as red
[06:39] <jariep1__> why is it that everytime i put my IP in IRC my site mysteriously goes down?
[06:39] <pje> argh
[06:39] <malikyo> oh, but the last message from tuxie didn't have my nick in it
[06:39] <malikyo> thanks for answering
[06:40] <tuxie> malikyo, what did I answer? :D  (i'm out of scrollback buffer to see it) :)
[06:41] <vircuser> mustard no, i installed windows on first, then i took out the hd and installed ubuntu on a sep hd (to have a clean install) i played around with ubuntu and now i want to dual boot,  i put winxp hd back in on pri master, ubuntu on pri slave, i loaded ubuntu install cd and skip to grub loader but it takes me to the partition area, i select ubuntu partition which info already there, how can i load brub from here? can i dual boot
[06:41] <selph> does anybody use the new cedega
[06:41] <malikyo> tuxie, I was asking why does the red line appear and someone told me that it appears when your nick is typed, but I was saying that the last message you sent didn't have my nick in it
[06:41] <sweet_kate> where can i find a proxy working quite fine ?
[06:42] <mustard5> vircuser, from memory..you set up all the partitions again, but instruct it to not format them...its a bit complex to explain :)
[06:42] <bur[n] er> selph: v5+  no
[06:42] <mustard5> vircuser, I have a link to a wiki method of doing it, but there are a number of threads in the forum where people have gone through the process
[06:43] <mustard5> vircuser, the wiki method uses a liveCD
[06:43] <NuB> IDENTIFY bng57
[06:43] <vircuser> mustard thanks may i have the link
[06:43] <mustard5> vircuser, using the installation disk method I think you back out of the install process at some stage and go to the grub installation part
[06:43] <selph> bur[n] er have you used other versions?
[06:43] <mustard5> vircuser, sure
[06:43] <mustard5> !grub
[06:43] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:44] <mustard5> vircuser, the second link will explain the process
[06:44] <mustard5> vircuser, but its not the installation disk method
[06:44] <NuB> IDENTIFY bng57
[06:44] <mustard5> vircuser, I think there is a HOW TO on that in the Tips and Tricks section of the Ubuntuforums
[06:45] <xiaogil> is webmin the reference tool to administrate a server, or is there something else ?
[06:45] <jason2> NuB, you may want to change your password.  Do it in a server window!
[06:45] <NuB> jason - how?
[06:45] <mustard5> vircuser, personally I prefer the installation disk method..as its all done without touching the command line :)
[06:46] <admrl> #'gnutella
[06:46] <vircuser> mustard - using the install disk is simplier?
[06:46] <vircuser> ubotu, thanks also
[06:46] <ubotu> vircuser: my pleasure
[06:46] <jason2> NuB, how what?  to change your password or do it in a server window?
[06:46] <mustard5> vircuser, simpler but more prone to making fatal errors if you don't think carefully about what you are doing
[06:46] <NuB> do it in a server window?
[06:46] <vircuser> ubotu, mustard is it common what i'm doing?
[06:46] <ubotu> okay, vircuser
[06:47] <mustard5> vircuser, because you have to be careful you don't acccidently format your partitions again :)
[06:47] <Yokalosh> hey guys when i set up my ubuntu box last night apt didnt configure properley because i didnt have an internet connection
[06:47] <Yokalosh> what should i do?
[06:47] <jason2> NuB, do you use xchat?
[06:47] <Yokalosh> how can i fix this?
[06:47] <mustard5> vircuser, yes...the installation disk method is commonly used
[06:47] <NuB> yup
[06:47] <mustard5> vircuser, there are any number of threads discussing it in the ubuntuforums
[06:47] <vircuser> mustard - shucks what's easier?
[06:47] <jason2> NuB, on the bottom it should have a window that say "Ubuntu Servers", do it there.  That way if you mess up, 630 people won't know your password
[06:47] <mustard5> vircuser, well I never have any luck with the LiveCD one :)
[06:48] <mustard5> vircuser, you signed up on the ubuntuforums?
[06:48] <vircuser> mustard yes
[06:48] <sobh_> i install ubuntu linux, and nowhere in installation i didnt see to put root pass
[06:48] <sobh_> now i dont know what is root passs :s
[06:48] <Yokalosh> i noticed that
[06:48] <Ng> sobh_: by default the root account is disabled
[06:48] <mustard5> vircuser, I would just do a search on HOW TO install grub installation disk
[06:48] <Ng> !root
[06:48] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:48] <mustard5> vircuser, I'm sure there is a thread in tips and tricks
[06:49] <vircuser> mustard thanks , u to ubotu
[06:49] <mustard5> vircuser, explaining it via IRC is pretty hard :)
[06:49] <grogoreo> hi
[06:49] <cart> How can i download all packages that have security notice? (To burn a cd with all updates)
[06:49] <vircuser> mustard ok i'll read on ........  :o)
[06:49] <mustard5> vircuser, k..good luck
[06:49] <sobh_> sobh@vios:~$ su
[06:49] <sobh_> Password:
[06:49] <sobh_> su: Authentication failure
[06:49] <NuB> jason2: on the bottom it says: FreeNode|#ubuntu|#ubuntuforums ????
[06:50] <vircuser> mustard thanks
[06:50] <Ng> sobh_: sudo -i
[06:50] <jason2> NuB, that's fine, do it in the FreeNode window
[06:50] <grogoreo> I did some work in Flash on windows and saved it on an ext2 partition using a driver but when I come onto linux, the folder seems to be a file now. Is all my work lost?
[06:50] <mustard5> vircuser, np..come back if you have any questions
[06:50] <mumbles-laptop> how do i change the boot order ?
[06:50] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, in BIOS
[06:50] <mumbles-laptop> forgotten the name of the package
[06:50] <vircuser> mustard ok,
[06:50] <NuB> ok t.a. Jason - 'bye 4 now
[06:50] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[06:50] <teleyinex> hi
[06:51] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, you talking about the boot order for apps at startup?
[06:51] <teleyinex> someone has installed an ibook keyboard on a pc?
[06:51] <teleyinex> because i feel that some keys are changed
[06:51] <sobh_> Ng: isnt sudo supposed to work?
[06:52] <mumbles-laptop> mustard5 on grub
[06:52] <Ng> sobh_: sudo should indeed work
[06:52] <sobh_> how didnt it work in my case
[06:52] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, ah ok..there is a variable called 'default' with a number after it
[06:52] <Syco54645> mumbles-laptop: you want to change the order that things are listed?
[06:52] <Ng> sobh_: you used su, which isn't sudo
[06:52] <mumbles-laptop> yeh so my win partition is first
[06:53] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, backup your menu.lst before you change it :)
[06:53] <Syco54645> mumbles-laptop: sudo gedit  /boot/grub/menu.lst should do it
[06:53] <Syco54645> just move stuff around
[06:53] <sobh_> Ng, i see now.. but sudo useradd   add user bot not in their directories
[06:53] <sobh_> wher users go ?
[06:53] <Ng> sobh_: /home/
[06:54] <jariep1__> can somebody help me out with php, mysql setup, i can't find mysql in phpinfo
[06:54] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, you need to change this part... ' default         0
[06:54] <mustard5> '
[06:54] <mumbles-laptop> boots back up again
[06:54] <jariep1__> i have php-mysql installed
[06:54] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[06:55] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, you used the pastebin before? can you paste your menu.lst in the pastebin?
[06:55] <mumbles-laptop> will do
[06:55] <mustard5> !pastebin
[06:55] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:56] <mumbles-laptop> was just about to ask that question
[06:56] <Yokalosh> how can i set up apt properley? it didnt set up properley because i didnt have an internet connection
[06:56] <sobh_> Ng: :/home$ sudo useradd ba
[06:56] <keir_> i have a very stragne probelm, ubuntu freezes when i login to the gdm, it doesnt display the gnome splash screen but prays the login chime, i can move the mouse, but nothig appears, gnome doesnt load. in .xsession errors theres a load of errors about ICE, and not being able to mkdir /dev/X, any ideas?
[06:56] <sobh_> Ng: :/home$ ls
[06:56] <sobh_> Ng: nothing
[06:56] <mumbles-laptop> keir_ - you got a nvida card?
[06:56] <keir_> muep, correct
[06:57] <mustard5> mumbles basically you count down the list of entries..but start counting at zero...as grub counts starting with zero
[06:57] <mumbles-laptop> you have to installe the drivers
[06:57] <keir_> *mumbles-laptop,
[06:57] <jason2> keir_, have you ever been able to login?
[06:57] <Ng> sobh_: you must be doing something wrong then. Have you tried using the Users and Groups tool in the System menu
[06:57] <keir_> mumbles-laptop, they dont work out of the box? :S
[06:57] <keir_> jason2, not into gnome, though terminal login works fine
[06:58] <mumbles-laptop> keir_ mine dont
[06:58] <sobh_> Ng: sudo only works if you are a sudouser
[06:58] <RobinL> where to download ubuntu .debs
[06:58] <paulproteus|lapt> RobinL: packages.ubuntu.com if you like
[06:58] <jason2> keir_, change the video driver to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then see if you login.  If you can, work on installing the drivers for your video card after that
[06:58] <mustard5> keir_, is it a permission problem with ICE authority?
[06:58] <keir_> mustard5, dont think so
[06:58] <mustard5> keir_, k
[06:59] <keir_> ok, ill try using vesa
[06:59] <naer_dinsul> Hello all.  I'm trying to add a menu item that runs a java jar file.  The command runs from the terminal just fine, but it wont run from the menu.  Am I missing something?
[06:59] <mustard5> keir_, yeah vesa should do it
[06:59] <sobh_> Ng: Is that got to do with anything?
[06:59] <MrKeuner> does ubuntu have an official recommendation for any laptop brand(or brands), model?
[06:59] <jason2> mustard5, hrmm I was about to tell him he should double check what you said but he left
[06:59] <mumbles-laptop> paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7278
[07:00] <mustard5> jason2, I hear stories of Xauthority problesm
[07:00] <jason2> mustard5, yeah, I've seen the files get owned by root
[07:00] <mustard5> jason2, yep
[07:00] <sobh_> What I did:
[07:00] <sobh_> dark@agresor:/home$ sudo useradd ba
[07:00] <sobh_> dark@agresor:/home$ ls
[07:00] <sobh_> dark
[07:00] <sobh_> nothing happened
[07:00] <mustard5> MrKeuner, not that I know of...it might have a compatibility list
[07:01] <mustard5> MrKeuner, I would try the ubuntu wiki
[07:01] <mustard5> !wiki
[07:01] <mumbles-laptop> mustard5 ? www.paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7278
[07:01] <mustard5> MrKeuner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrequentlyAskedQuestions
[07:01] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, got it
[07:02] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, can you see the line in menu.lst that says  'default   0'?
[07:02] <tristanmike> Can someone please help me?? I'm trying to run Mondo Rescue from the repos and I keep getting this "-------FATAL ERROR--------- / Manual CD tray + DVD not supported yet."  error and I don't know why...I suspect I don't have the program pointed to the proper dvd location is /dev can someone offer some guidence?
[07:02] <sobh_> heh?
[07:03] <mumbles-laptop> mustard5 yes
[07:03] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, thats the number you have to change...
[07:03] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, problem is I am having dns resolve problesm to that link :)
[07:04] <dario> ciau...
[07:04] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, ah ok..its not www
[07:04] <mumbles-laptop> shall i use another pastbin?
[07:04] <dario> i have a problem with driver of my printer....
[07:04] <dario> brother....
[07:04] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, no I got it..you had www on it
[07:04] <dario> CDP-115C
[07:05] <mumbles-laptop> ops
[07:05] <dario> DCP
[07:05] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, now I counted down starting with zero..and got to five for the windows option
[07:05] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, so I'm guessing default 5
[07:05] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, grub counts everything starting at zero
[07:05] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, you count down each option...including the recovery mode and memtest
[07:05] <dario> ?
[07:06] <mustard5> and pick the one to make default
[07:06] <yggdrasil_> is there any sort of good payroll software for linux ?
[07:06] <mustard5> yggdrasil, I wonder whether gnu-cash has something that would handle that
[07:07] <mustard5> yggdrasil, probably not
[07:07] <yggdrasil_> mustartd hmmm...
[07:07] <yggdrasil_> ill search out the synapt
[07:07] <mustard5> yggdrasil, k..its a longshot :)
[07:07] <yggdrasil_> yea
[07:07] <mustard5> yggdrasil, its probably something totally unrelated :)
[07:08] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, do you get what I am saying?
[07:08] <yggdrasil_> you would figure there would be something...
[07:09] <mustard5> yggdrasil, someone might have a commercial version
[07:09] <yggdrasil_> yea
[07:09] <ROBOd> hi
[07:09] <mustard5> yggdrasil, probably have to pay them though :)
[07:09] <ROBOd> i have ubuntu 5.10 ... and i installed kde
[07:09] <yggdrasil_> also im thinking aobut a um ... pos application ?
[07:09] <Linwinmac> Where can i find dvd decoders for ubuntu? im trying to play a movie but it says there where no decoders found
[07:10] <lsuactiafner> Linwinmac : libdvdread and libdvdcss
[07:10] <ROBOd> i got kde 3.4 ... not 3.5
[07:10] <Linwinmac> lsuactiafner, can i sudo them
[07:10] <mustard5> !tell Linuturkey about restricted
[07:10] <ROBOd> this page: http://www.kubuntu.org/ tells that KDE 3.5 should be available for Kubuntu 5.10 too
[07:11] <yaaar> word
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> you apt-get install them
[07:11] <mustard5> Linuturkey, read over the link from ubotu in the PM
[07:11] <mustard5> woops
[07:11] <Hoxzer> what is quickest way to resize picture in ubuntu?
[07:11] <ROBOd> why i didn't get KDE 3.5 ?
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> Linwinmac.........
[07:11] <mustard5> Linwinmac,  read over the link from ubotu in the PM
[07:11] <lsuactiafner> Hoxzer : pictures? or picture? use gimp and scale
[07:11] <yaaar> anybody around here use dvdshrink in wine?
[07:12] <mustard5> Hoxzer, the mogrify command
[07:12] <mustard5> Hoxzer, install imagemagik (sp?)
[07:12] <anders__> hi people! I've just started the work of moving from xp to ubuntu. have some trouble mounting my ntfs partition in ubuntu. I wrote "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/sda5 /media/storage/
[07:12] <anders__> " but when I try to access /media/storage I get permission denied. anyone got a clue?
[07:12] <mustard5> Hoxzer, I can't remember the exact spelling of the package
[07:12] <mustard5> !imagemagik
[07:12] <ubotu> mustard5: Not a clue
[07:12] <mustard5> !info imagemagik
[07:13] <mustard5> !info imagemagick
[07:13] <ubotu> imagemagick: (Image manipulation programs), section graphics, is optional. Version: 6:6.2.3.4-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1301 kB, Installed size: 3688 kB
[07:13] <_jason> anders__: use the '-o umask=0222' option when mounting
[07:13] <yaaar> usually it works perfect...but i installed it on a couple boxes last week and they both have this weirdness where when the dvdshrink is running you can hear horribly distorted audio from the movie. plus, the extraction/compression takes like 5 times longer than usual
[07:13] <mustard5> Hoxzer, its a command line tool...you could use GIMP to do it though
[07:13] <mustard5> Hoxzer, I use Picasa2 running in wine myself
[07:13] <anders__> _jason: thx. I'll try it out
[07:14] <trinnity> andrew, when you installed ubuntu did you configurated the ntfs partition?
[07:14] <trinnity> sorry... anders...
[07:14] <Hoxzer> mustard5: do you know how I do it with gimp?
[07:14] <mustard5> Hoxzer, yeah.. lsuactiafner mentioned it above
[07:14] <mustard5> Hoxzer, the scale option
[07:14] <yaaar> anders__: note that you cannot write to ntfs partitions
[07:15] <anders__> trinnity: did not touch that partition when I installed ubuntu
[07:15] <trappist> Hoxzer: do it on the command line: convert -resize 123x456 infile.png outfile.png where 123 and 456 are the x and y dimensions, respectively
[07:15] <trinnity> because is like yaaar just said. you can't write anything in ntfs partition...
[07:15] <anders__> I am trying out Ubuntu and trying to master linux. thought I'd mount the disk where I have my music/movies/photos, so I could test some multimedia stuff
[07:15] <Hoxzer> ok, thx
[07:15] <mustard5> trappist, is that independant of imagemagick package?
[07:15] <leafw> how can one know which runlevel is currently in use ?
[07:16] <trappist> mustard5: no, convert is part of imagemagick
[07:16] <bosco> how do i configure hibernate i googled it but i did not help me out
[07:16] <mustard5> trappist, ah ok
[07:16] <trinnity> but you should be able to see it...
[07:16] <trappist> but who wants to be without imagemagick?
[07:16] <anders__> how do I unmount? just rm it?
[07:16] <HaNnYa> chupenlo los conchetumare
[07:16] <mustard5> trappist, :)
[07:16] <yaaar> anders__: umount /mnt/mountpoint
[07:16] <anders__> yaaar: thx
[07:17] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, ?
[07:17] <anders__> hmmm. unmount command not found
[07:17] <mumbles-laptop> one sec mustard5 ive got the flue currentley
[07:17] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, k :)
[07:17] <trappist> anders__: umount.  no n
[07:17] <mumbles-laptop> i think i need 7
[07:17] <anders__> ahh, sorry
[07:17] <mumbles-laptop> not 5
[07:17] <trappist> well, one n...
[07:18] <mumbles-laptop> just abou tto go to bed
[07:18] <Jessehk> quick question: I have 3 partitions. 1 ntfs (windows), 1 ext3(/) and 1 swap. I want to make a /home partition from my / partion. Besides doing the actuall partition, will I have to make any additional changes, or will it just work like before?
[07:18] <mustard5> mumbles-laptop, k...just remember grub starts at 0
[07:19] <anders__> the -o option did the trick :-)
[07:19] <mumbles-bed> mustard5 - yep 6
[07:19] <mustard5> k
[07:19] <mumbles-bed> i am now going to go to bed
[07:19] <mustard5> night :)
[07:20] <sobh_> i enabled root on ubuntu, and now i mounted NTFS partitions to mnt, and i cant access as user. cant play songs from that folder or anything
[07:20] <sobh_> Any ideas?
[07:20] <mumbles-bed> probally going to leave laptop on. couse ill wake upat about 12:00
[07:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell sobh_ about root
[07:20] <sobh_> I know
[07:20] <sobh_> I enabled it
[07:20] <thechitowncubs> Does anyone have a Nvidia 6800GS graphics card?
[07:20] <_jason> sobh_: mount with the '-o umask=0222' option
[07:20] <mustard5> sobh_, it sounds like you went about it strangely :)
[07:20] <sobh_> i make root, I can use su
[07:20] <_jason> sobh_: no read what it says.  Enabling it is not a smart idea.
[07:20] <mustard5> sobh_, you could do it all with sudo
[07:21] <RobinL> how can one use apt-get to fetch a deb to a specific directory?
[07:21] <sobh_> what should I do?
[07:21] <mustard5> RobinL, for what purpose?
[07:21] <_jason> sobh_: read the page :)
[07:21] <RobinL> for my package script
[07:21] <sobh_> how to add my user in admin group ?
[07:21] <sobh_> I read
[07:21] <RobinL> i won't advertise it here
[07:21] <RobinL> :p
[07:21] <mustard5> RobinL, ah ok
[07:21] <_jason> sobh_: are you using the user you created during install?
[07:21] <mustard5> RobinL, hehe
[07:21] <RobinL> mustard5: so, how?
[07:21] <dracflamloc> hello. got a prob with sound. i have a via/realtek alc250. the mixer volume says its at max but no sound comes out
[07:21] <ROBOd> why i didn't get KDE 3.5 ?
[07:22] <mustard5> RobinL, I can't see it happening using apt-get
[07:22] <sobh_> jason: yess
[07:22] <RobinL> well..
[07:22] <_jason> sobh_: then he should be a member of the admin group
[07:22] <mustard5> RobinL, where are you downloading it from?
[07:22] <thechitowncubs> What is the most recent graphics card the "nv" driver supports?
[07:22] <mustard5> RobinL, are you downloading and ubuntu .deb?
[07:22] <RobinL> apt-get -d -o dir::cache=/dir install <pkg_name> <-- something like this
[07:22] <RobinL> mustard5: from the ubuntu repositories
[07:23] <mustard5> RobinL, all the packages are on packages.ubuntu.com as well
[07:23] <RobinL> yes, but i want the script to be able to fetch
[07:23] <RobinL> and i won't make a packages.ubuntu.com interpreter
[07:23] <RobinL> :p
[07:23] <mustard5> RobinL, its beyond my abilities sorry :)
[07:23] <sobh_> jason, for example my user is 'sobh' how to put it to admin?
[07:23] <RobinL> kok
[07:23] <RobinL> ok*
[07:23] <RobinL> no problem :p
[07:24] <mustard5> sobh_, are you not in /etc/sudoers now?
[07:24] <_jason> sobh_: like I said, he should already be in the admin group.  Try the comman 'groups'.  'admin' should be listed there.
[07:24] <emily> My system wont allow me to log in as any user in a graphical mode, it says that it cant get write access to the authorization file or out of space on home directory or out of disk space, whats the deal and how do i fix that?  I can log into a console
[07:24] <mustard5> sobh_, you go to /etc/groups and add your user name on the end of the admin group if you want to be in the group
[07:25] <ROBOd> guys... enlighten me: why i get only KDE 3.4 (not 3.5)?
[07:25] <_jason> ROBOd: you can try #kubuntu as well
[07:25] <cdubya> is there a gui sound converter that will convert to mp3?
[07:25] <mustard5> sobh_, /etc/group sorry
[07:26] <emily> I really need to get into the system, I have a paper on the drive that I need to turn in today!!!
[07:26] <RobinL> apt-get -d -o dir::cache=/dir install <pkg_name> <-- does this work to fetch a single file to a directory or does this set the option permanently?
[07:26] <Redrose> under whos authority does cron run?
[07:26] <Redrose> what user name does cron use?
[07:26] <bosco> Emily if you cant login to graphical mode then you need reinstall and it depends on the details
[07:27] <_jason> emily: use a livecd to get your paper if you really need it.  Is it possible that you are actually out of space?
[07:27] <Redrose> let's say i have it set to write a file to a folder only readable by root, can it do that?
[07:27] <HappyFool> ROBOd: at a guess, that was the latest KDE version when breezy was frozen for release (probably six months back or more)
[07:27] <Redrose> let's say i have it set to write a file to a folder only readable/writable by root, can it do that?
[07:27] <RobinL> apt-get -d -o dir::cache=/dir install <pkg_name> <-- does this work to fetch a single file to a directory or does this set the option permanently?
[07:28] <tyler> any way to diy repair brother all-in-one mfc with error 41?? pls help
[07:28] <emily> _jason: no chance out of space unless some hacked my box and or a other type problem vulnerability...
[07:28] <HappyFool> Redrose: afaik cron runs as root; i may be wrong. try it and see
[07:28] <_jason> emily: does it mention something like .Xauthority or .ICEauthority?
[07:28] <Redrose> how do i "run" cron?
[07:28] <trappist> Redrose: if you 'sudo crontab -e' you'll be editing root's crontab
[07:28] <Redrose> ok
[07:28] <emily> _jason: yes
[07:29] <_jason> emily: delete those two files and try again
[07:29] <HappyFool> RobinL: 'permanent' settings are in /etc/apt/prefences, i believe; i doubt command line options would change that file
[07:29] <RobinL> HappyFool: ok
[07:29] <emily> _jason: I will try, brb
[07:29] <mustard5> test
[07:30] <HappyFool> RobinL: make that /etc/apt/apt.conf and others; check 'man apt-get'
[07:30] <bosco> i am trying to figure  out how to hibernate in breezy badger how do i go about doing it
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> bummer - dapper instgalled fine.. but grub is confused.. or might i be having some issue since its a 300gb hard drive?
[07:30] <mustard5> bosco, I would think it is in the screensaver options in gnome..(guessing)
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> i was thinkign grub had no more issuies with large hd's
[07:31] <emily> _jason: that does not solve the problem
[07:31] <idefix_> why is automake1.4 better than automake1.6 and not the other way around?
[07:31] <soundray> bosco, one way is to use acpi sleep mode. You need a swap partition the size of your RAM or more...
[07:31] <emily> _jason: none of my users can log on graphically
[07:32] <_jason> emily: good point
[07:32] <bosco> soundray i want to use suspend 2
[07:32] <soundray> bosco, sorry, no experience with swsusp2 here.
[07:32] <_jason> emily: 'df', does that say you have plenty of space left?
[07:33] <anders__> is mplayer a good choice for mp3/aav?
[07:33] <anders__> aac
[07:33] <emily> _jason: df reports 100% usage of my root directory
[07:33] <mustard5> emile, hmmm
[07:33] <soundray> anders__, I reckon it's as good as any other -- the work is done in the codec anyway.
[07:34] <emily> _jason: that would explain something, but what happened?
[07:34] <_jason> emily: how big is your drive?
[07:34] <emily> _jason: its a 120 gig drive, brand new system with nothing on it but a base ubuntu breezy install
[07:34] <mustard5> emily, where you doing some operation that might have created a large temp file?
[07:35] <freemanen> is there going to be a translation of program description in gnome-app-install?
[07:35] <emily> mustard: transcoding a dvd to divx?
[07:35] <mustard5> emily, hmmm..well that might be a relevant
[07:35] <_jason> emily: try 'apt-get clean', to free up some space
[07:35] <HappyFool> try 'du --si -s /tmp' and 'du --si -s /home' to check if either of those is particularly large
[07:36] <HappyFool> even a dvd should be smaller than what, 20 GB ?
[07:36] <Ng> "du -h --max-depth=1 /" is a nice way to see what is using lots of space
[07:36] <tuxie> anders__, if you're looking for a music player, look elsewhere :)  like rhythmbox, noatun, bmp (beep media player), muine or something..
[07:36] <HappyFool> Ng: ah, nice
[07:36] <mustard5> HappyFool, yeah..120 gb is hard to fill with one DVD :)
[07:36] <emily> _jason: what does that command do?
[07:37] <_jason> emily: clean clears out  the  local  repository  of  retrieved  package files.
[07:37] <mustard5> emile, the apt-cache clean deletes all the downloaded packages for synaptic
[07:37] <_jason> oh yeah, that's what I probably mean
[07:37] <HappyFool> you reckon there's a 120GB worth of downloaded packages ? ;)
[07:37] <idefix_> ok, the perfect os doesn't exist, but linux is close, right?!
[07:37] <soundray> mustard5, it's apt-get clean
[07:37] <emily> _jason:that worked and now I can log into gnome, but is my drive all hosed or are those files now gone?
[07:38] <mustard5> soundray, k :)
[07:38] <_jason> emily: what files?
[07:38] <selinium> idefix: yep!
[07:38] <_jason> emily: try those commands Ng and HappyFool mentioned to see what was using all the space
[07:38] <idefix_> is there such a thing as ultra-edit for linux?
[07:38] <grogoreo> could someone tell me the keyboard shortcut to switch to a different workspace?
[07:38] <mustard5> emily, something is still on there, so you will need to find it
[07:39] <HappyFool> idefix_: just as linux is the closest to a perfect OS, emacs is the closest to a perfect editor ;)
[07:39] <y_o_u> hi all, linux/kubuntu noob here, simple question. i am trying to modify the /etc/modules file with Kate, but it wont let me. what do i need to do to modify it with Kate, or what program do i need to use instead (i am presuming it wont let me modify it because of no root permission). thanks!
[07:39] <tuxie> idefix_, linux is far from perfect but it's one of the best options currently available.. :)
[07:39] <tristanmike> grogoreo, ctl+alt+"arrow keys"
[07:39] <idefix_> how many % of the companies have already switched to linux?
[07:39] <_jason> grogoreo: you can see (and modify) the shortcuts in system -> prefs -> keyboard shortcuts
[07:39] <paitart> hi! i installed scribus "synaptically" just a while ago. i cant find it yet. should i reset? what should i do?
[07:40] <dutch> y_o_u: try using kwrite in kubuntu as sudo
[07:40] <y_o_u> dutch: thanks!
[07:40] <tristanmike> paitart, check /usr/bin or /usr/sbin
[07:40] <idefix_> so emacs is better than gedit..
[07:40] <dutch> glad to help, if i in fact help
[07:40] <trappist> tristanmike: the 'which' command is handy for situations like this
[07:40] <grogoreo> tristanmike and _jason thanks
[07:40] <anders__> I don't here any sound when I play movies or music from my mounted ntfs drive, but I do hear sounds from gaim ... any help for this?
[07:41] <selinium> idefix_, Screem, Bluefish, gphpedit  are all ultra-edit type things
[07:41] <soundray> idefix_, what's important to you in an editor?
[07:41] <tristanmike> paitart, or use "which", your choice
[07:41] <anders__> do you guys get paid to help us noobs? ;-)
[07:41] <selinium> idefix_, What do you code?
[07:41] <mustard5> anders__, no :)
[07:41] <TomBee> will this work: apt-get --purge remove < `cat canremove.txt`
[07:41] <selinium> anders__, nope , we just love ya all!
[07:41] <paitart> tristan, could u explain further. i'm a newbie here
[07:41] <idefix_> I used to copy files from the workstations to my pc
[07:41] <paitart> tristanmike, could u explain further. i'm a newbie here
[07:41] <mustard5> anders__, are you on breezy or hoary hedgehog?
[07:41] <idefix_> and ultraedit "ordered" it with fancy colours
[07:41] <anders__> mustard5: then I am even more grateful :-)
[07:42] <tristanmike> paitart, "man which"
[07:42] <selinium> idefix_, what language?
[07:42] <idefix_> output files from some cool finite element program, they were not oversightly
[07:42] <idefix_> the files were in english, but dutch and german are ok for me too
[07:42] <Linwinmac> im trying to install firefox-when i go to the log in screen and i try to log under root it says admin cannot log in using this screen...how can i log in as root? so that i can finish installing firefox
[07:42] <selinium> idefix_, lol, i meant what syntax highlighting? HTML PHP C?
[07:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell Linwinmac about root
[07:42] <tuxie> do I see an editor war at the horizon? :)
[07:43] <idefix_> rpt-files from patran/nastran
[07:43] <yaaar> tristanmike: my manwich!
[07:43] <mustard5> Linwinmac, via the commnand line from your user account
[07:43] <emily> Ng: that du command reported only one thing it says "37G      /"
[07:43] <mustard5> Linwinmac, check the PM from ubotu
[07:43] <emily> Ng: what does that mean?
[07:43] <tristanmike> yaaar, mmmmm.....manwhich
[07:43] <Linwinmac> im reading it know thanks
[07:43] <idefix_> but in some point in time I'm going to need html and c too
[07:43] <paitart> tristanmike, could u explain further. i'm a newbie here
[07:43] <idefix_> selenium!
[07:43] <_jason> emily: what command did you type exactly?  it should ahve said more
[07:43] <tristanmike> paitart, type "man which" in a terminal
[07:43] <Ng> emily: hmm, that's quite odd, it should have listed a bunch of directories
[07:43] <trappist> paitart: the command 'which scribus' will tell you where the scribus executable is
[07:44] <soundray> tuxie, naw, come on, this isn't wikipedia
[07:44] <tristanmike> paitart, assuming the excuteable is named scribus
[07:44] <selinium> idefix_, I have no idea how an editor would colour format them.... Sorry, i ws going to maybve suggest one, but have a play, install them all and delete the ones you use the least!
[07:44] <trappist> emily: try this: find / -type f -size +200M
[07:45] <tuxie> soundray, :D
[07:45] <paitart> tristanmike: how would i make it run and put a shortcut somewhere in my desktop?
[07:45] <idefix_> selenium Screem, Bluefish, gphpedit anything else?
[07:45] <mustard5> anders__, what version of ubuntu are you on?
[07:45] <tuxie> idefix_, kdevelop, eclipse..
[07:45] <tristanmike> paitart, right click the desktop and select "Create a Launcher" and put the icon of your choice, and a path to the executeable
[07:46] <emily> Ng: I typed in du --s -s/  as a user it reported 33 things, all with permission denied at the end, so i did it suso and then it just said 37G
[07:46] <tristanmike> paitart, and to make it run, once you find the executeable, just type it in a terminal otherwise
[07:46] <Ng> emily: try "sudo du -h --max-depth=1 /"
[07:46] <tuxie> idefix_, monodevelop if you have a C# fetish :)
[07:47] <tristanmike> paitart, ie. "scribus" in a terminal should make it run, again, assuming the executeable is scribus
[07:48] <emily> Ng: 21G in var, looks like spool issues
[07:48] <tuxie> Personally I use Vim for almost anything but when I code I boot into Mac OS X and use TextMate :)
[07:48] <anders__> I can't install mplayer cause it isn't found by apt-get. how do I find out which repository to add?
[07:48] <ph8> anyone got bluetooth working on ubuntu?
[07:49] <ph8> i don't know whether it's my O2 USB Bluetooth Dongle or whether it's the software
[07:49] <mustard5> !repos
[07:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:49] <Ng> emily: if you run the same thing again with /var instead of / at the end it'll give you more detail, keep doing that till you find where the space all went :)
[07:49] <paitart> tristanmike: tnx! i got it running! yipee!
[07:49] <ompaul> !bluetooth
[07:49] <ubotu> I heard bluetooth is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BluetoothSetup
[07:49] <ompaul> ph8
[07:49] <paitart> i just wish things could be done easier :)
[07:49] <tristanmike> paitart, no probs dude
[07:49] <KoruptPryde> anybody know how to get the main menus for gnome to display icons at 16px??
[07:50] <mustard5> KoruptPryde, does chaning the font sizes in System>Preferences>Fonts work?
[07:50] <mustard5> KoruptPryde, doh..ignore that :)
[07:50] <mustard5> KoruptPryde, icons  *smacks head*
[07:50] <emily> Ng: 21 G in /var/log
[07:51] <idefix_> I'm not going to install eight editors and delete seven
[07:51] <idefix_> what is this universe multiverse stuff I keep hearing about?
[07:51] <mustard5> idefix_, extra repositories
[07:51] <Ng> emily: that suggets something has gone wrong and is spewing logs. "ls -lh /var/log" will show you the file sizes
[07:51] <mustard5> idefix_, you need to enable them in synaptic to download certain packages
[07:51] <_jason> idefix_: you already have vim, that's all you need
[07:52] <iantec> why cant i be a su? italways says conversation with su failed
[07:52] <mustard5> emily, wow thats a big log file :)
[07:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell iantec about sudo
[07:52] <idefix_> is vim a uni-/multiverse or a text editor?
[07:52] <KoruptPryde> mustard5, yeah... I'm getting annoyed with the 24px icons.....  I don't mind getting my hands dirty, so if anyone knows something that requires some config editing or such I'm game
[07:52] <_jason> idefix_: neither, you already have it
[07:52] <mustard5> KoruptPryde, I'm in the dark about icons unfortunately
[07:52] <iantec> i mean i cant even access synaptic
[07:52] <_jason> idefix_: sorry misread, it's a text editor
[07:52] <iantec> im sure im entering the right password which is my password
[07:52] <sobh_> what program can suport mp3 files on ubuntu linux ?
[07:52] <idefix_> is VIM like the VI-editor?
[07:53] <_jason> idefix_: uh huh
[07:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell sobh_ about mp3
[07:53] <idefix_> great, I have used this for about 2 months
[07:53] <alex__> hey how can I mount the cdrom drive in ubuntu?
[07:53] <mustard5> sobh_, totem-xine, mplayer, xmms
[07:53] <_jason> iantec: for some strange reason, did you decide to enable root?
[07:53] <mustard5> sobh_, they all need to be configured first
[07:53] <idefix_> sudo mount ... /media/cdrom
[07:53] <mustard5> sobh_, I'll give you a link...
[07:54] <KoruptPryde> ubotu: tell KoruptPryde about mp3
[07:54] <mustard5> sobh_, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[07:54] <_jason> iantec: for some strange reason, did you decide to enable root?
[07:54] <_jason> sobh_: sorry wrong nick :)
[07:54] <sobh_> xmms, amarok, xine, mplayer ?
[07:54] <emily> Ng: the biggest log file is on 1.1M !
[07:54] <iantec> yes
[07:55] <idefix_> alex__ for instance I used sudo mount -t vfat fd0 /media/floppy
[07:55] <iantec> im trying to install a service....folding at home but i cant no matter what i do
[07:55] <mustard5> sobh_, all of the above once you set up mp3 support
[07:55] <Ng> emily: hmm
[07:55] <_jason> iantec: disable it, that's why your gui admin tools are broken.  read the link ubotu sent you for more info
[07:55] <mustard5> sobh_, see the link I sent you for setting up mp3 support
[07:55] <iantec> it always says sorry wrong password but i dont remember giving a root pass in the first place...but i need to be root
[07:55] <Ng> emily: how many are there? ("ls /var/log | wc -l" will tell you)
[07:55] <alex__> idefix_: but that is for media floppy, or is the same in both case?
[07:55] <soundray> emily, that huge file must be in a subdirectory of /var/log then.
[07:55] <leafw> how can one reboot into a particular runlevel, or have the booting sequence stop to ask the user whcich runlevel to run after the rdS ?
[07:55] <TimmyJ> this may be the wrong place to ask but I was wondering if its planned to incorporate beagle (well mono applications in general) into ubuntu by default. I use to think this would never happen due to the nature of ubuntu's license, but now after hearing fedora core is doing this I wasn't sure
[07:56] <_jason> iantec: why do you need to be root?
[07:56] <sobh_> thanks!
[07:56] <iantec> i need to install a service....folding at home.... so it starts up no matter what user is logged in
[07:56] <mustard5> iantec,  you can do sudo -i and put your user password in
[07:56] <tuxie> iantec, just use sudo
[07:57] <emily> Ng: what do the different colors mean, Ive got red, blue and white collored?
[07:57] <tuxie> or "sudo su -" if you REALLY want to have a root shell
[07:57] <iantec> it wont work...i tried already
[07:57] <emily> Ng: there a 79 of them
[07:57] <serg284> hi all. im getting erros on synaptic saying it cannot find my multiverse repository. is the server down or something?
[07:57] <serg284> deb     http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[07:57] <idefix_> alex__probably not
[07:57] <HappyFool> tuxie: 'sudo -i' is preferred
[07:57] <Ng> emily: the colours indicate things about who owns the files and what permissions they are
[07:57] <alex__> hey can somebody tell me how can I mount the cdrom?
[07:58] <idefix_> alex__ I never had to
[07:58] <soundray> alex__, in Gnome?
[07:58] <idefix_> how come you have to?
[07:58] <Ng> emily: well 79 with the largest at 1.1M doesn't sound right at all. If you don't mind losing the logs you could delete them all and see if that frees up the space, but it kinda sounds like something else is going on
[07:58] <alex__> idefix_: yes
[07:58] <_jason> sobh_: what's the exact error?
[07:58] <dracflamloc> can someone please help me get my soundcard to work? its a via chipset (realtek ac97 ALC250)
[07:58] <iantec> ive been struggling to install fah
[07:58] <idefix_> alex__ I didn't ask you a yes/no question
[07:58] <iantec> pls check this site ....http://fahwiki.net/index.php/A_Complete_Guide_to_Using_FINSTALL_for_NEWbies#Installation_and_Set_Up
[07:58] <idefix_> tell soundray
[07:58] <alex__> idefix_: OK
[07:59] <HappyFool> alex__: try 'mount /media/cdrom0'
[07:59] <soundray> alex__, in System-Preferences-Removable disks you can set how Gnome should deal with CDs.
[07:59] <Seveas> !seen bob2
[07:59] <soundray> alex__, but normally I would expect your CD to appear as a desktop icon once inserted.
[07:59] <ubotu> i haven't seen 'bob2', Seveas
[08:00] <HappyFool> TimmyJ: according to this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperDrake , beagle was only not in breezy due to timing
[08:00] <idefix_> Happyfool: why do I have three cdroms and why are there so many mountable things in the /dev dir?
[08:00] <_jason> iantec: the wiki doesn't mention anything about root, are you positive you need it (that I saw)? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoldingAtHome
[08:00] <emily> Ng: I am in a root nautilus and was poking threw var/log....I found the large file, it is in my gnump3 directory and is 20.7 gigs large
[08:00] <Seveas> HappyFool, Beagle will not be in Dapper main too, it's not quite there yet
[08:00] <serg284> hi all. im getting errors on synaptic saying it cannot find my multiverse repository. is the server down or something?
[08:00] <serg284> deb     http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[08:00] <Ng> emily: aha :)
[08:01] <Seveas> serg284, errors on the pastebin please
[08:01] <emily> Ng: If I remove that server will it take out all its baggage(config file and stuff) you knew if I tell synaptic to completey remove it?
[08:01] <Ng> emily: might be worth a quick poke at it with more/tail and then removing it and turning gnump3's logging down a lot ;)
[08:01] <idefix_> Happyfool: I mean I have cdrom, cdrom0 and cdrom1
[08:01] <serg284> seveas. i donw understand. is pastebin a room?
[08:01] <HappyFool> TimmyJ: there you have it, no breezy in main until at least october 2006
[08:01] <Seveas> !tell serg284 about pastebin
[08:01] <idefix_> Happyfool: should I unmount one of the three
[08:01] <idefix_> Happyfool: ?
[08:01] <Ng> emily: it won't delete logs, but "apt-get remove --purge foo" will remove all program files, documentation and configuration
[08:01] <HappyFool> idefix_: 'mount' will tell you what is mounted
[08:01] <Ng> emily: you can just rm the huge log file (it will take a few seconds)
[08:02] <y_o_u> !tell y_o_u about pastebin
[08:02] <iantec> well ive been getting help.... http://forum.folding-community.org/viewtopic.php?t=13930&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0 you can start in page 3 because the first 2 pages they were helping me out with suse
[08:02] <_jason> emily: how much did the apt-get clean free up?
[08:02] <HappyFool> idefix_: on my machine, /media/cdrom is a symbolic link to /media/cdrom0
[08:02] <idefix_> Happyfool: so I can type unmount cdrom0?
[08:02] <HappyFool> idefix_: also, check /etc/fstab to see which of those entries is really used
[08:02] <HappyFool> idefix_: and I wouldn't muck about with mount/unmount unless you have to
[08:02] <lysis> hey will an epson printer that prints onto cd/dvd discs work in ubuntu?
[08:03] <HappyFool> idefix_: if you can, right-click on the CD icon on the desktop and eject
[08:03] <lysis> or can anybody at least tell me what program will print onto discs or onto labels or anything?
[08:03] <emily> Ng: there is just 4 log file, christ, what the hell it logging, its not even set up yet, installed it last night, attempted to load it a friend house for testing purposes and i come home and my system hosed!
[08:03] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: hello
[08:03] <Ng> emily: maybe it has just been spitting errors out since then
[08:03] <idefix_> Happyfool: I only have a DVD_VIDEO on my desktop :-(
[08:03] <serg284> hi all. im getting errors on synaptic saying it cannot find my multiverse repository. is the server down or something?  "deb     http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse"
[08:03] <idefix_> Happyfool: and two hd's
[08:04] <HappyFool> idefix_: do you have a DVD in the drive?
[08:04] <cantspeakslowly> every time I try to install a new package, apt-get asks for my Ubuntu install CD. What can I do to out the files it needs on my HD?
[08:04] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: you said to me last time program which can hibernate mz pc later turn on and start a program, music for example, so it is a kind of wecker
[08:04] <idefix_> Happyfool: yes, desperate housewives
[08:04] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, you could get it to download them instead
[08:04] <HappyFool> idefix_: how many cd/dvd drives do you have?
[08:05] <emily> Ng: so I sudo apt-get remove --purge gnump3?  And that wil take it all away like the cologan man?
[08:05] <idefix_> Happyfool: two, a DVD and a CDROM
[08:05] <HappyFool> idefix_: and what problem are you having with mounting/unmounting ?
[08:05] <idefix_> alex__ had problems
[08:05] <soundray> serg284, the archive server is up. The problem must be elsewhere.
[08:05] <cantspeakslowly> mustard5: what's the configuration for that?
[08:05] <Ng> emily: that won't remove the huge log file, but it will remove the rest of it. what is the cologan man? ;)
[08:05] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, you can remove the line in your /etc/apt/sources.list that refers to the CD rom...just put a # in front of that line and save it
[08:05] <serg284> soundray. u have any idea where the problem may be ?
[08:06] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, use this command to open it.. sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:06] <serg284> soundray. cause it works just fine for my other repositories.
[08:06] <HappyFool> idefix_: ok, and your problem is?
[08:06] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, at the very top is a line relating to the CD
[08:06] <klaym> hey can I get WMV9 support for mplayer?
[08:06] <leafw> how can one reboot into a particular runlevel, or have the booting sequence stop to ask the user whcich runlevel to run after the rdS ?
[08:06] <tristanmike> !tell klaym about w32codecs
[08:06] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, put a # on that line..and that will make it a comment
[08:06] <klaym> w32codecs is installed
[08:06] <emily> The collagan man is that cleaning guy for water softeners, old american commercial, he used to fload in the water tanks of toilets, manning a navy to keep your toilet bowl clean
[08:07] <soundray> serg284, brb
[08:07] <tristanmike> klaym, have you tried vlc?
[08:07] <idefix_> HappyFool, well, I would like to see the DVD
[08:07] <klaym> tristanmike: yes, vlc is the latest package
[08:07] <HappyFool> idefix_: you need to install some software to watch dvd's
[08:07] <idefix_> where do I get it?
[08:07] <RobinL> !tell RobinL about w32codecs
[08:08] <lysis> or can anybody at least tell me what program will print onto discs or onto labels or anything?
[08:08] <mustard5> lysis, I have no idea :)
[08:08] <klaym> tristanmike: playing any of the videos in for example killsometime.com gives me an error with no support for wmv9. it's a newer MS format I guess
[08:08] <tristanmike> klaym, and still no good? sure it's wmv9? both those should be able to play wmv9 but not 10 iirc
[08:08] <lysis> mustard5 me too. :)
[08:08] <HappyFool> !tell idefix_ about restricted
[08:09] <klaym> tristanmike: do you have mplayer with w32codecs?
[08:09] <HappyFool> !tell idefix_ about libdvdcss
[08:09] <cantspeakslowly> mustard5: got it, thanks
[08:09] <mustard5> lysis, I think nero does something like that..you could try setting up wine and running nero (for windows)
[08:09] <tristanmike> klaym, are you using firefox? do you have the mediaplayerconnectivity plugin?
[08:09] <mustard5> cantspeakslowly, k
[08:09] <tristanmike> klaym, I have the w32 but i don't use mplayer
[08:09] <Ap4ch3>  /msg NickServ IDENTIFY simba99
[08:09] <mustard5> lysis, I don't even know whether that would work
[08:09] <HappyFool> idefix_: check your private messages from ubotu, and read those pages for more info; let us know if you have trouble understanding anything
[08:09] <tolstoy> Is "Ben Collins" here?
[08:09] <klaym> mplayer support is installed on firefox
[08:09] <lysis> mustard5 so i may need to use windows? =(
[08:10] <soundray> serg284, sorry, phone rang. Please run 'sudo apt-get update' on a command line and paste the output on http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[08:10] <tolstoy> BenC: you here?
[08:10] <emily> Ng: Where are you from?
[08:10] <mustard5> lysis, no wine runs windows programs in linux
[08:10] <klaym> tristanmike: does this video play for you?: http://www.killsometime.com/video/video.asp?ID=103
[08:10] <BenC> tolstoy: yeah
[08:10] <mustard5> lysis, not always succesfully though :)
[08:10] <serg284> soundray. okay.
[08:10] <tristanmike> klaym, I'm in the process of a backup so I can't check right now, but i will when I get the chance, sorry
[08:10] <mustard5> lysis, I have a feeling nero might work..you never know until you try
[08:10] <lysis> mustard5 it never works for me.  i'd be more comfortable just running windows to do that.    nero?  linux?
[08:10] <klaym> tristanmike: ok np
[08:10] <tolstoy> BenC: I tried a very recent dapper live CD on my laptop (with the intel 2200BG) and it didn't work any better than breezy.  Should I make a "new" issue, or just post under the old one?
[08:11] <mustard5> lysis, well there may well be a linux equivalent..I just dont know of it
[08:11] <BenC> tolstoy: what do you mean that it didn't work?
[08:11] <mustard5> lysis, do you have a dual boot system?
[08:11] <emily> Ng: Hey, where are you from or rather live?
[08:11] <lysis> mustard5 no.  i would set one up if needed though i guess.
[08:11] <HappyFool> isn't there a nero for linux?
[08:12] <Telemachus> lysis: use kcdlabel
[08:12] <BenC> tolstoy: and if there's already a bug report, just make sure the fix is targeted at linux-source-2.6.15 and update the comments to say it still exists in dapper
[08:12] <tristanmike> HappyFool, yeah, you need a valid key to use it
[08:12] <tolstoy> BenC: The wireless device found the AP, got an IP, but all pings are "Destination Host Unreachable".
[08:12] <mustard5> HappyFool, I have no idea
[08:12] <tolstoy> BenC: Okay.  Thanks.
[08:12] <lysis> Telemachus kcdlabel?
[08:12] <emily> HappyFool: Yes there is a nero for windows, free to try 30 bucks american to buy
[08:12] <tristanmike> HappyFool, it's called, oddly enough, NeroLinux
[08:13] <Telemachus> lysis: yep, use synaptic or apt-get to install kcdlabel
[08:13] <mustard5> lysis, I would exhaust the search for a linux equivalent first as installing windows after linux is a headache
[08:13] <HappyFool> lysis + mustard5: there you go then ;)
[08:13] <serg284> soundray.!! after i did 'sudo apt-get update' its working!!! maybe i wasnt running synaptic as root ??
[08:13] <y_o_u> anyone. ii am setting up my wireles usb and have gotten it installed using ndiswrapper. now, i have wlan0 available in KWiFiManager, full bars, and it says connected to the network. my problem is that when i open konqueror and go to google.com, it tells me that an error occured and is an unknown host. not sure what to do or look for next. any ideas?
[08:13] <mustard5> lysis, ah..problem solved hehehe
[08:13] <soundray> serg284, then none of the repos should have worked. Never mind, fixed is fixed :)
[08:13] <Ng> emily: uk :)
[08:13] <MabusXP> I have a 160GB drive with ubuntu on it, and a 20gb drive with Windows XP on it. How do I give more space to store files for windows to use, without losing existing data?
[08:13] <emily> Tnaks all to those that helped me solve my diskspace quandry
[08:14] <serg284> soudnray. damn right.! thxxx!
[08:14] <lysis> brb
[08:14] <emily> Ng:  What part, I am there often for work and I figure I owe you a few pints
[08:14] <Ng> emily: I'm about slap bang in the middle of london at the moment ;)
[08:15] <emily> Ng: You are old enough to consume beer correct?
[08:15] <soundray> MabusXP, you can shrink your Ubuntu partition with gparted and create a FAT32 partition in the space gained.
[08:15] <Ng> emily: hehe, just about
[08:15] <MabusXP> soundray, how?
[08:15] <emily> Ng: I wont tell
[08:16] <soundray> MabusXP, all with gparted in Ubuntu.
[08:16] <MabusXP> Okay, brb.
[08:16] <soundray> MabusXP, before you go...
[08:17] <mustard5> hehe
[08:17] <mustard5> soundray, too late :)
[08:17] <y_o_u> anyone. ii am setting up my wireles usb and have gotten it installed using ndiswrapper. now, i have wlan0 available in KWiFiManager, full bars, and it says connected to the network. my problem is that when i open konqueror and go to google.com, it tells me that an error occured and is an unknown host. not sure what to do or look for next. any ideas?
[08:17] <soundray> mustard5, story of my life...
[08:17] <mustard5> :)
[08:17] <mustard5> Mabus will be back..he's always in here :)
[08:20] <[1] Ben> hello i just downloaded Ubunutu Flight 3 for x64 and have a problem.
[08:20] <soundray> I am thinking about creating a chroot for 32bit programs on my amd64 setup. With the wiki page, will this be a fairly smooth experience?
[08:21] <iantec> _jason : are youy still there?
[08:21] <_jason> iantec: yes
[08:23] <mustard5> soundray, I certainly hope so :)
[08:23] <mustard5> soundray, hehe
[08:23] <[1] Ben> i apoligize for being a linewb i noticed ubuntu F3 did not detect my onboard ethernet (nforce3)
[08:23] <soundray> mustard5, thanks for the encouragement. Have you done it?
[08:23] <mustard5> soundray, don't you hate it when nobody answers your question?  naaah..never done it :)
[08:24] <[1] Ben> i went to administration and saw ehternet and modem, i tried 'enable' ethernet but had no effect
[08:24] <y_o_u> why would the command "sudo ifup wlan0" give me an error of "ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0" while the command "ifconfig wlan0" seems to work fine by displaying mac address, etc. any ideas? thanks
[08:24] <idefix_> was linux made in Finland?
[08:24] <geko> is there anyone with a asus a6va?
[08:24] <Mabus> How do I use gparted? I can't click the 'resize' button when I have a  partition selected.
[08:24] <soundray> mustard5, I'm fairly used to it.
[08:24] <mustard5> idefix_, I thought Linus Torvald was Norwegain
[08:24] <iantec> have ytou read the link i post?
[08:24] <trappist> he's finnish
[08:24] <mustard5> ah ok
[08:25] <mustard5> well there you go :)
[08:25] <iantec> you think it will be better to start a fresh install and use the wiki instead?
[08:25] <iantec> in ubuntu?
[08:25] <soundray> trappist, idefix_, mustard5, Linus Torvalds is Swedish, part of an ethnic minority in Finland.
[08:26] <[1] Ben> i guess ill go download the 32bit edition and try that
[08:26] <[1] Ben> lol
[08:26] <mustard5> soundray, the plot thickens :)
[08:26] <soundray> :)
[08:26] <_jason> iantec: I think your best bet is to post on the forums.  There are a bunch of folding users there who have probably gone through the same/similar situation they are in.  A reinstall seems a bit drastic
[08:26] <soundray> Mabus, I was going to add a warning about FAT32.
[08:26] <Mabus> How do I use gparted? I can't click the 'resize' button when I have a  partition selected. It's greyed out.
[08:26] <iantec> but i cant even aces synaptic anymore somehow root is locked
[08:26] <_jason> iantec: I thought you meant a reinstall of ubuntu, but if you just meant folding, then yes do that
[08:26] <Mabus> soundray, oh?
[08:27] <_jason> iantec: disable root
[08:27] <mustard5> Mabus, I think there are restrictions depending on where the partition is located on the hardrive
[08:27] <iantec> yes ubuntu reinstall because my root is locked i men useless....cant install packages cant even make changes that require my password...
[08:27] <soundray> Mabus, FAT32 is a poor filesystem that's prone to fragmentation and unrecoverable errors. To make matters worse, it is now encumbered with patents on the long (longer than 8.3) filename scheme.
[08:28] <_jason> iantec: do you have sudo?  what does 'sudo echo hi' in a terminal say?
[08:28] <_jason> iantec: and use the user password when it asks
[08:28] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~/foldingathome$ sudo echo hi
[08:28] <iantec> Password:
[08:28] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~/foldingathome$
[08:28] <soundray> Mabus, now, if you still want to do it: how is your drive partitioned?
[08:28] <_jason> iantec: paste the output of 'groups'
[08:28] <mustard5> iantec, I would say your not in the /etc/sudoers file
[08:28] <iantec> what you mean im sorry im a real noob
[08:29] <mustard5> iantec do the groups thing first
[08:29] <_jason> iantec: in a terminal type 'groups', paste what it returns
[08:29] <mustard5> iantec, type groups
[08:29] <mahmood> hi.
[08:29] <Mabus> soundray, it's partitioned like a 'desktop' machine as one of the options in guided partitioning.. it has a small partition for / and the bulk of it in /home.
[08:29] <trappist> mustard5: if you're not in sudoers sudo yells at you and tells you your infringement will be reported to the authorities and stuff
[08:29] <SolPhoenix> Is there some magic phrase to use when configuring networks in Ubuntu?
[08:29] <iantec> iantec adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[08:29] <y_o_u> why would the command "sudo ifup wlan0" give me an error of "ignoring unknown interface wlan0=wlan0" while the command "ifconfig wlan0" seems to work fine by displaying mac address, etc. any ideas? thanks
[08:29] <mustard5> trappist, not always..from what I have experienced
[08:30] <_jason> iantec: as root: adduser your_user_name admin
[08:30] <mustard5> trappist, sometimes it just quietly fails
[08:30] <SolPhoenix> This is my first time using Linux and I don't know why in the world I can't get Ethernet or Wireless to work.
[08:30] <mustard5> _jason, he would need to boot to recovery mode to get to root?
[08:30] <mahmood> I am having trouble with glib can anyone help?
[08:30] <ph8> cheers
[08:30] <soundray> Mabus, any partition contained within an extended partition?
[08:30] <cyberix> How should an average user know when and how to upgrade to next Ubuntu?
[08:30] <_jason> mustard5: he has root enabled he said
[08:31] <cyberix> And how should he/she upgrade anyway?
[08:31] <mustard5> _jason, ah ok
[08:31] <_jason> (I think)
[08:31] <trappist> y_o_u: I think a device has to be in /etc/network/interfaces for ifipdown to work.  not so for ifconfig.
[08:31] <giftnudel> mahmood, ask, and then we will see
[08:31] <SolPhoenix> iwlist scan reports no scan results... Which I've been told means the driver is messed up.
[08:31] <iantec> adduser: Only root may add a user or group to the system.
[08:31] <_jason> iantec: okay, guess not.  You can't su to root?
[08:31] <Mabus> soundray, yes, the linux-swap and ext3 (/home) are in there
[08:31] <mahmood> ah when I am trying to buil a project using anjuta it tells me can't find glib
[08:31] <iantec> su: Authentication failure
[08:31] <mtlife> ok... this is a little bit strange
[08:31] <iantec> its alwyas liek that since the beginning
[08:31] <nunnu> hi
[08:31] <soundray> Mabus, nothing unexpected then. The reason you can't resize them is probably that they are mounted.
[08:32] <mtlife> how can I make my ubuntu a dns server?
[08:32] <trappist> mahmood: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:32] <nunnu> doesn't kubuntu have synaptic??
[08:32] <mustard5> iantec, when you boot up in grub..you get an option for recovery mode..it drops you into a root prompt
[08:32] <y_o_u> trappist: thanks
[08:32] <lesshaste> what do wa, hi and si stand for in top?  man top doesn't seem to say
[08:32] <soundray> Mabus, to resize them, you should boot from a live CD.
[08:32] <mahmood> ok...
[08:32] <iantec> can that restore everything from scratch?
[08:32] <_jason> iantec: yeah, just run that command after doing what mustard5 said
[08:32] <paul__> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118705 any ideas?
[08:32] <SolPhoenix> What do I do if the default driver for my Intel Centrino (2200BG or whatever) doesn't work?
[08:32] <blue-frog> mtlife, http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/Chroot-BIND-HOWTO-4.html#ss4.2
[08:32] <trappist> mahmood: or libglib1.2-dev
[08:32] <HappyFool> mahmood: at a guess you'll need the libglib1.2-dev package too (and probably several others)
[08:32] <mustard5> iantec, from there you can add yourself to the admin group
[08:32] <SolPhoenix> Is there any indication of the problem if my Ethernet isn't working properly either?
[08:33] <mustard5> iantec, and even inspect the /etc/sudoers file using the visudo command
[08:33] <Mabus> soundray, okay, brb
[08:33] <mahmood> I am trying all of them right now
[08:33] <drc> my soundcard is apparently detected and shows up in volume control, but even with max volume set i cant hear anything when i try and play wav files
[08:33] <lowman62> hello tech support room :)
[08:33] <iantec> i want to start all over agiain. this is my 3rd distro,,,kinda frustrating the learning curve is too high
[08:33] <iantec> ehgeheh
[08:33] <trappist> drc: specifically wav files, or any audio?
[08:33] <iantec> anyways thanks for the help.
[08:33] <drc> trappist, any audio
[08:34] <paul__> i have huge fonts and everything in kubuntu to the point where i cant see anything....any ideas?
[08:34] <nunnu> doesn't kubuntu have synaptic??
[08:34] <paul__> ubuntu works fine though
[08:34] <trappist> !tell paul__ about fixres
[08:34] <giftnudel> lowman62, hello, you need to transfer the $100 in advance to (arbitrary account number on some offshore bank) or we won't even listen to your problems
[08:34] <riddlebox> nunnu, yes it does
[08:34] <iantec> perhaps ill just do a new install its kinda late and i have school so i guess i have to go thanks guys.
[08:34] <mustard5> if you add a line like this to the bottom of your sudoers file, you will have sudo privileges  ....mustard ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:34] <paul__> thanks
[08:34] <SolPhoenix> Can anyone help me with networking problems or should I ask on the forums?
[08:34] <mustard5> iantec, but you would use your username not mine :)
[08:34] <lowman62_away> .
[08:35] <mustard5> iantec, k..well give it a go tomorrow then :)
[08:35] <lotusleaf> SolPhoenix: ask your detailed question here, or post to the forums, you decide. :)
[08:35] <drc> trappist, any sound i cant get to play. it detects my card as snd-via82xx and theres also OSS realtek ALC250 listed in the gnome volume control.
[08:36] <soundray> SolPhoenix, you've come to the right place. You may have to ask a few times.
[08:36] <fleeky> hello, could someone point me in the direction of a how-to to install the libmp3?
[08:36] <jariep1__> what's the latest version of phpmyadmin in ubuntu 5.10 breezy badger?
[08:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell fleeky about mp3
[08:36] <fleeky> nice thanks
[08:36] <SolPhoenix> Okay... Question:  (As I've stated before) Neither wireless nor ethernet seem to be working for me.  I've tried using DCHP and Static IP to no avail.  "iwlist scan" reports no results which I'm told means the driver is buggy.
[08:36] <lotusleaf> jariep1__: http://packages.ubuntu.com/ is a useful resource
[08:37] <SolPhoenix> I just want to get onto the internet with Ubuntu.
[08:37] <jariep1__> lotusleaf, thanks
[08:37] <Moratorium> anybody know how I can get my sound configured in linux?
[08:37] <paul__> i have no sound in gaim beta 2.0 but sound works everywhere else (sorry for bombing u guys with questions lol)
[08:37] <trappist> drc: sounds like maybe you have an onboard soundcard interfering with the operation of your pci card.  There's a right way to be able to use both, but I'd go into the bios and disable the onboard card.
[08:37] <mustard5> Moratorium, what version of ubuntu?
[08:37] <soundray> SolPhoenix, I'd suggest you try and sort the Ethernet problem first.
[08:37] <lotusleaf> jariep1__: np
[08:38] <_jason> paul__: what do you use as the sound output?
[08:38] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Okay... Any suggestions?
[08:38] <paul__> uhhh audigy 2 zs i think
[08:38] <mahmood> it still gives me errors... :(
[08:38] <paul__> how can i find out?
[08:38] <soundray> SolPhoenix, do you know what ethernet chipset is on your board/card?
[08:38] <_jason> paul__: I mean, do you use esd, alsa?
[08:38] <paul__> how can i find out?
[08:38] <mustard5> paul__, you using alsa or esd in your multimedia selector?
[08:38] <Moratorium> its actually mandriva, but the #mandriva channel is dead
[08:38] <Moratorium> so i thought I might be able to get some help here
[08:38] <mustard5> paul, system>>preferences>>mulitmedia selector
[08:38] <_jason> paul__: system -> prefs -> multimedia selector
[08:39] <SolPhoenix> soundray, I have a Centrino chipset (for wireless)... Not sure if Intel made the ethernet or not.
[08:39] <y_o_u> trappist: how do i add the wlan0 to the /etc/networks/interfaces file?
[08:39] <paul__> default sink is esd output
[08:39] <nunnu> i just installed kubuntu and I can't find synaptic nor kynaptic
[08:39] <soundray> SolPhoenix, laptop?
[08:39] <mustard5> paul__, put it all on alsa
[08:39] <paul__> default source is oss input
[08:39] <mustard5> paul, but both on alsa
[08:39] <mtlife> hurrah
[08:39] <mtlife> routing works
[08:39] <SolPhoenix> soundray, yes.  All the ethernet and wireless stuff works in Windows XP, too.
[08:39] <_jason> paul__: check the gaim preferences, in sounds to make sure it is using esd
[08:39] <mustard5> Moratorium, ah ok :)
[08:39] <Moratorium> any ideas mustard5?
[08:39] <mustard5> Moratorium, my knowledge of mandriva is zilch :)
[08:40] <mustard5> Moratorium, what soundcard?
[08:40] <paul__> alright changed to alsa
[08:40] <soundray> SolPhoenix, have you looked for installation reports on the web for your particular model?
[08:40] <Moratorium> sigmatel I think] 
[08:40] <mustard5> paul, try again now
[08:40] <paul__> when i go to gaim tools>preferences>sound tab
[08:40] <paul__> and test sounds it works
[08:40] <ScreaminIke> i need some help getting my audacity to work...
[08:40] <paul__> but when im talking to someone it doesnt work
[08:40] <paul__> mute sound isnt on
[08:40] <_jason> paul__: umm that's really strange...
[08:40] <paul__> do i need to restart gaim or anything?
[08:40] <trappist> y_o_u: I've never added a wireless device to that file, but `man interfaces` should help
[08:40] <Moratorium> linux is linux, distro doesnt matter too much
[08:40] <soundray> SolPhoenix, what laptop is this?
[08:40] <_jason> paul__: you can try, but if it works when you test, it should work normally
[08:41] <paul__> the thing is, the sound worked in 1.5 but when i upgraded to beta it stolled working
[08:41] <SolPhoenix> soundray: A Toshiba Satellite M45
[08:41] <ScreaminIke> it does not seem to be able to detect my audio equipment
[08:41] <Moratorium> or is that just my noob opinion
[08:41] <mustard5> Moratorium, hmmm..you could try a lsmod command to look for loaded sound modules..
[08:41] <paul__> stopped*
[08:41] <y_o_u> trappis: thanks again, i will look into it
[08:41] <Moratorium> just "lsmod" mustard5?
[08:41] <_jason> paul__: make sure you checked "sound when convo has focus"
[08:41] <mustard5> Moratorium, if you see something relating to your soundcard in lsmod then you know its loading drivers I think
[08:41] <paul__> yep its checked in
[08:41] <mustard5> Moratorium, yeah lsmod
[08:42] <paul__> sound method is set to automatic
[08:42] <ArthurB> Hi, has anyone stunnel4 working here ?
[08:42] <_jason> paul__: and you've checked the box for the sound you want to play (i know simple, but just to make sure)
[08:42] <mtlife> bestaat er eigenlijk een gui of een frontend voor shorewall?
[08:42] <mustard5> Moratorium, its an extension of the ls command..it list modules
[08:42] <paul__> yeah i did
[08:42] <drc> my soundcard is apparently detected and shows up in volume control, but even with max volume set i cant hear anything when i try and play any audio?
[08:42] <_jason> paul__: change it from auto to esd
[08:42] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Oh.  I found this. http://www.crhc.uiuc.edu/~mjmille2/howtos/dual-boot-linux-and-windows/
[08:42] <paul__> changed it up still no dice
[08:42] <mustard5> drc, you on gnome?
[08:42] <SolPhoenix> It's not the exact same model... likely an older version.  Maybe this will help.
[08:42] <Moratorium> what am I looking for mustard5?
[08:42] <Moratorium> I see the modules
[08:43] <mtlife> is there a frontend or gui for shorewall? like firestarter, but with shorewall functionality?
[08:43] <mustard5> Moratorium, some reference that looks like its about a sound device
[08:43] <_jason> paul__: how are you testing, someone is im'ing you? did you restart aim? could be a bug with the beta
[08:43] <drc> mustard5, yes
[08:43] <paul__> in tools>preference>sound tab theres a test button
[08:43] <soundray> SolPhoenix, found it too. It doesn't even mention any ethernet problem.
[08:43] <mustard5> drc, type this in console   ps -e | grep esd
[08:43] <Moratorium> I see nothing that looks remotely relate to sound
[08:43] <nunnu> WHERE IS SYNAPTIC LOCATED IN KUBUNTU?
[08:43] <mustard5> drc, tell me if you have esd in the output
[08:43] <soundray> SolPhoenix, nice laptop btw :)
[08:43] <paul__> when i push test it works fine but when someone actually IMs me theres no sound
[08:43] <mustard5> Moratorium, I would suspect the system is not recognising the card then
[08:43] <drc> mustard5, i get " 7475 ?        00:00:00 esd"
[08:44] <mustard5> drc, ok esd is tying up your sound then
[08:44] <lotusleaf> nunnu: System menu
[08:44] <lesshaste> what do wa, hi and si stand for in top?  man top doesn't seem to say
[08:44] <mustard5> drc, you need to kill it
[08:44] <_jason> paul__: right, but after changing it from auto to esd you have restarted gaim and had someone IM you to test?
[08:44] <mustard5> drc, type killall esd
[08:44] <jochs> If I compile a newer version of a package than is in the repository (in this case mldonkey, which is woefully out of date), do I need to do any sort of cleanup to keep apt-get and such happy?
[08:44] <Moratorium> ok, so what should I do mustard5?
[08:44] <paul__> ill restart gaim now
[08:44] <lotusleaf> nunnu: but I run Synaptic from CLI in Kubuntu because otherwise the gui looks ugly in Kubuntu
[08:44] <mustard5> Moratorium, at this point I am as lost as you :)
[08:44] <drc> mustard5, ok. now try sound again?
[08:44] <mustard5> drc, yep
[08:44] <lowman62> .
[08:44] <soundray> SolPhoenix, here, someone reports they needed to use the acpi=off kernel option to get Ethernet running: http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/showthread.php?p=223328#post223328
[08:45] <paul__> restarted gaim and still no dice
[08:45] <Moratorium> mustard5,do you have any experience with oss?
[08:45] <mustard5> drc, if you want to make that permanent you will have to go to System>>Preferences>>Sound and turn of the 'enable sound server at startup' option
[08:45] <paul__> i think its something with gaim and not so much the system
[08:45] <lotusleaf> nunnu: notice the difference between running Synaptic in Kubuntu via the System menu vs. running it from the command line in Kubuntu with-> sudo synaptic = big difference in looks
[08:45] <Moratorium> I tried installing oss
[08:45] <paul__> because the test button in gaim works but it doesnt actually happen in IMs
[08:45] <mustard5> Moratorium, naaah..I'm just a linux noob who knows how to parrot stuff I have heard :)
[08:45] <_jason> paul__: yeah, go report a bug :)
[08:45] <Moratorium> but Im having rather complex problems
[08:45] <drc> mustard5, i get "Could not open recource for writing" when trying to play a wav in "sound recorder"
[08:45] <paul__> alright thanks for ur time
[08:45] <thomas_> hallo
[08:46] <nunnu> lotusleaf: i can't run synaptic at all
[08:46] <mustard5> Moratorium, I have very little technical expertise
[08:46] <nunnu> lotusleaf: i don't have synaptic!
[08:46] <lotusleaf> nunnu: why not?
[08:46] <Moratorium> same here mustard5
[08:46] <thomas_> wie geht
[08:46] <Moratorium> anyone know about oss?
[08:46] <nunnu> lotusleaf: i don't know, i just installed kubuntu
[08:46] <lotusleaf> nunnu: then install it ;) otherwise you have the kynaptic or whatever it's called for KDE
[08:46] <mustard5> drc, do the ps -e | grep esd again
[08:46] <HappyFool> !de
[08:46] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[08:46] <mtlife> is there a frontend or gui for shorewall? like firestarter, but with shorewall functionality?
[08:46] <mustard5> drc, make sure its gone
[08:46] <lotusleaf> nunnu: apt-get install synaptic
[08:46] <SolPhoenix> soundray: So how do I do that exactly?
[08:46] <nunnu> lotusleaf: i don't have kynaptic neither
[08:46] <drc> mustard5, nothing
[08:46] <mustard5> drc, k
[08:46] <tristanmike> nunnu, did you install Kubuntu or Ubuntu then added Kubuntu?
[08:46] <thomas_> was ist soll
[08:46] <mustard5> drc, I'm thinking now....
[08:46] <nunnu> lotusleaf: apt-get doesn't find synaptic
[08:47] <nunnu> tristanmike: i installed kubuntu from a cd
[08:47] <lotusleaf> nunnu: sudo apt-get install synaptic I meant ;)
[08:47] <mustard5> drc, try going to System>.Preferences>>Multimedia Selector and changing both sound things to ALSA
[08:47] <nunnu> lotusleaf: i tried
[08:47] <lotusleaf> nunnu: then first add the ubuntu.com sources to your sources list
[08:47] <tristanmike> nunnu, then you want to look for Adept, if you using Breezy
[08:47] <mustard5> drc, you trying to record?
[08:47] <nunnu> tristanmike: adept is crap
[08:47] <drc> mustard5, nah, just playing a sound
[08:47] <lotusleaf> nunnu: if you're only running Kubuntu do you only have Kubuntu sources in your sources list? if so, adding ubuntu.com sources will help
[08:47] <thomas_> he
[08:48] <mustard5> drc, k
[08:48] <tristanmike> nunnu, lol, what do your sources.list look like? pastebin
[08:48] <soundray> SolPhoenix, edit /boot/grub/menu.lst, find a line beginning with '# kopt=', add ' acpi=off' with the space and without the quotes. Run sudo update-grub once saved. Do not uncomment kopt line.
[08:48] <lotusleaf> nunnu: you tried, and did you follow the sources.list modifications with sudo apt-get update?
[08:48] <mustard5> drc, what sound card you using?
[08:48] <kaine> what is wrong with this crontab:
[08:48] <kaine> 5    *    * * *   /home/kaine/hochladen/batch > /dev/null
[08:49] <drc> mustard5, its a laptop via card, realtek alc250 chipset
[08:49] <mustard5> drc, hmm k
[08:49] <drc> hm, ok i set them both to alsa
[08:49] <mustard5> drc, well I'm hopeful it will work now :)
[08:49] <thomas_> was ist soll
[08:49] <mustard5> drc, I'm running out of ideas
[08:49] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Thanks.  I'll try this.  Hopefully it'll work.
[08:49] <soundray> kaine, maybe /home/kaine/hochladen/batch isn't executable.
[08:49] <drc> mustard5, it says "could not get/set settings from/on resource"
[08:49] <thomas_> ist nicht soll
[08:50] <soundray> SolPhoenix, it's just a workaround, I wouldn't recommend it permanently.
[08:50] <mustard5> drc, is there another sound application open atm?
[08:50] <nunnu> lotusleaf, tristanmike: i'm adding them right now, so stupid from me to forgot
[08:50] <kaine> soundray,  i made it chmod +x
[08:50] <Moratorium> what are the Linux (RPM) Packages?
[08:50] <HappyFool> thomas_: /join #ubuntu-de , bitte
[08:50] <tristanmike> nunnu, eh, it happens
[08:50] <soundray> SolPhoenix, you need acpi for other things.
[08:50] <thomas_> wie
[08:50] <drc> mustard5, nope
[08:50] <soundray> kaine, it has to be executable for the user that runs cron jobs on your system.
[08:50] <thomas_> ich must essen
[08:51] <thomas_> ja
[08:51] <mustard5> drc, ok..I'm back to thinking hard....
[08:51] <nunnu> tristanmike: where's the sources.list? i have forgotten
[08:51] <lotusleaf> nunnu: follow it up with the lovely: sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install synaptic and you will be smiling like the happy penguins who orbit the moon
[08:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> lotusleaf: can i buy some of the drugs youve been smoking?
[08:51] <lotusleaf> nunnu: locate sources.list never fails
[08:52] <mustard5> drc, did the system make any noises when you started it up?
[08:52] <tristanmike> lotusleaf, o.0 we've got penguins on the moon, wow!
[08:52] <jrei> hi
[08:52] <christopher> hey there
[08:52] <drc> mustard5, nope. also, i dont think i have "alsaconf"
[08:52] <mustard5> drc, drum beats and stuff?
[08:52] <mustard5> drc, ok
[08:52] <lotusleaf> tristanmike: yes, there's even a music album called Penguins On The Moon by Sack Trick, sung by penguins :)
[08:52] <christopher> lol
[08:52] <christopher> right
[08:52] <mustard5> drc, try going to Preferences>>Sound and disabling the sound server
[08:52] <tristanmike> sweeet
[08:53] <mustard5> drc, although technically we have done that already
[08:53] <christopher> hey thomas
[08:53] <drc> mustard5, i did, its disable
[08:53] <jrei> has anyone a page or forum thread were a sugestion is how to use dual screen mode for laptops and presentations  for the fglrx
[08:53] <mustard5> drc, ok..I'm pretty much out of ideas :)
[08:53] <mustard5> drc, its a .wav file?
[08:53] <drc> yes. i'm jsut trying to play the gnome sounds to test
[08:54] <mustard5> drc, so you checked all the volumes and mute settings I guess.
[08:54] <mustard5> drc, what about the device in the volume menu options?
[08:55] <mustard5> drc, if you double click on the volume control you should get a settings window and you can set the device in the File menu
[08:56] <drc> mustard5, theres an OSS device and ALSA device. the OSS device only has a PCM slider
[08:56] <soundray> mustard5, we had someone here who couldn't access all their mixer settings through gnome-volume-control. They had to set things up with alsamixer before it would work.
[08:56] <jrei> drc: I suggest you use alsamixer form a bash to check whether all needed volumes are not muted. Alsa does that by default.
[08:56] <drc> i'm in alsamixer too. everything is unmuted =\
[08:56] <lesshaste> what do wa, hi and si stand for in top?  man top doesn't seem to say
[08:57] <s_spiff> anyone here tried installing wine?
[08:57] <jrei> drc: try a  sudo lsof /dev/mixer ; sudo lsof /dev/dsp
[08:57] <roico> can some1 help me with an ipod poblem?
[08:57] <mustard5> drc, I suppose you could try installing alsamixer and see if you can get the volume working with that in terminal
[08:57] <Zen> sup
[08:57] <jrei> drc: it tells you if another program uses/blocks your sound devices
[08:57] <ve1> hy, someone could help, with samba ? i tried to share some folders to win system but i can't access the m
[08:57] <drc> jrei, nope, doesnt return anything
[08:58] <ve1> hy, someone could help, with samba ? i tried to share some folders to win system but i can't access the m
[08:58] <roico> hi, can some1 help me with an ipod poblem?
[08:58] <soundray> ve1, don't repeat.
[08:58] <ve1> sorr's
[08:58] <s_spiff> damn..what lag!!!why!
[08:58] <jrei> drc: maby try it on /dev/snd/xxx maybe something is blocking there
[08:58] <mustard5> ve1, someone will speak up eventually if they know ;)
[08:59] <soundray> ve1, have you checked out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba ?
[08:59] <s_spiff> anyone tried installing wine here?
[08:59] <mustard5> s_spiff, yeah
[08:59] <trappist> ve1: did you use smbpasswd to add a samba account?
[08:59] <Zen> wine or winex/cedega
[08:59] <HappyFool> lesshaste: at a guess 'id' = idle, 'wa'=waiting
[08:59] <drc> jrei, when i do lsof on /dev/snd/controlC0 i get mixer_app 7576 dracflamloc 35u.....
[08:59] <s_spiff> wine
[08:59] <lesshaste> what do wa, hi and si stand for in top?  man top doesn't seem to say
[08:59] <s_spiff> whcich ones better?
[08:59] <lesshaste> Happu: thx... but hi and si?
[08:59] <s_spiff> and more easy to use...for a noob?
[08:59] <mustard5> s_spiff, I installed via synaptic by adding the sourceforge repositories
[09:00] <ve1> i will thnks
[09:00] <Zen> s_spiff: wine is best for desktop apps, cedega is meant to emulate Windows D3D/OpenGL games
[09:00] <HappyFool> lesshaste: i dunno. as i said, those were guesses
[09:00] <roico> i did an hebrew fix for my ipod, and from that point gtkpod stopped syncing stuff to it...
[09:00] <lesshaste> HappyFool: hmm... I can't find the answer !!
[09:00] <lesshaste> :(
[09:00] <Zen> s_spiff: neither does the other very well :)
[09:00] <s_spiff> mustard5, i did the same.. i wanted to play CS 1.6 on linux.. but i simply cant configure it and stuff
[09:00] <s_spiff>  hehe...
[09:00] <mustard5> s_spiff, did you get steam going?
[09:00] <s_spiff> no man..
[09:00] <Zen> s_spiff: You will want to get Cedega to run steam
[09:00] <soundray> lesshaste, if all else fails, read the source code...
[09:01] <mustard5> s_spiff, there is a thread going on the ubuntuforums about installing STEAM atm
[09:01] <s_spiff> ohh ok
[09:01] <s_spiff>  will check it out mustard5
[09:01] <lesshaste> soundray: that is not a helpful suggestion! Am I meant to calculate what they are measuring??
[09:01] <roico> the changes r saved only at gtkpod itself, but after ejecting the ipod nothing changes there
[09:01] <mustard5> s_spiff, its in the Gnome Desktop support section under the gaming sub-forum
[09:01] <s_spiff> Zen, so i can remov wine?
[09:01] <lotusleaf> s_spiff: you can also try #winehq and #cedega for more info on each
[09:01] <s_spiff> ok..
[09:01] <drc> maybe i should disable alsa and just use OSS?
[09:01] <Zen> s_spiff: Yes, they are seperate products
[09:02] <jrei> drc: hm, I suggest to kill that application for now. and try again.
[09:02] <drc> just did
[09:02] <drc> no luck
[09:02] <mustard5> s_spiff, I installed it using Cedega...so I have no idea about wine and STEAM
[09:02] <drc> of course i dunno if oss would work either
[09:02] <soundray> lesshaste, many programmers comment their source code.
[09:02] <s_spiff> ok..
[09:02] <mustard5> drc ALSA is better
[09:02] <jrei> drc: what kind of hardware do you have?
[09:02] <Zen> s_spiff: http://pcburn.com/article.php?sid=378 is a simple guide for installing the CVS (free) version of Cedega, though it is only $5/mo and well worth paying for the full package
[09:02] <lesshaste> soundray: it must be in the man page surely... maybe I am just blind
[09:02] <lowman62> <--comments his code all the time ;)
[09:02] <roico> i did an hebrew fix for my ipod, and from that point gtkpod stopped syncing stuff to it...
[09:02] <roico> the changes r saved only at gtkpod itself, but after ejecting the ipod nothing changes there
[09:03] <drc> jrei, via ac97 (realtek ALC250)
[09:03] <s_spiff> hmm.. will check it out..thanks Zen
[09:03] <mustard5> Zen, Cedega offers 14 day free trial of the full version now too
[09:03] <soundray> lesshaste, I just tried to find it here, same problem.
[09:03] <drc> mustard5, yea i know its better, but only if it works =\
[09:03] <lotusleaf> s_spiff: IMO don't bother with the cvs free version of Cedega if you're seriously interested in running games, IMO FWIW it's old
[09:03] <jrei> drc: hm, and you are using breezy?
[09:03] <mustard5> drc, something is amiss with your sound setup somewhere
[09:03] <ApesMa> How do framebuffer devices get associated with particular graphics cards?
[09:03] <Zen> s_spiff: I've played Steam games via Cedega 5.0.1 no problems (through Point2Play)
[09:03] <drc> jrei, um, 5.10
[09:03] <soundray> lesshaste, have you seen /usr/share/doc/procps/README.top.gz?
[09:04] <joao> im from portugal
[09:04] <tech9iner> sardonically hilARIOUS lol.. Patch this! Musings on Microsoft's Windows patching.. http://www.linux-watch.com/news/NS7350372195.html
[09:04] <_jason> !pt
[09:04] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[09:04] <Zen> s_spiff: though, if you are on an ATI video card, Source doesn't always work perfectly (1.6 ran fine)
[09:04] <lesshaste> soundray: no.. what is it?
[09:04] <roico> i did an hebrew fix for my ipod, and from that point gtkpod stopped syncing stuff to it...
[09:04] <roico> the changes r saved only at gtkpod itself, but after ejecting the ipod nothing changes there
[09:04] <s_spiff> ok..i'll be installing 1.6
[09:04] <joao> prexixo da tradoxao do kunbunto(kde)
[09:04] <HappyFool> !pt
[09:04] <joao> alguem sabe onde posso aranjar
[09:04] <joao> sim sim
[09:05] <joao> pt
[09:05] <joao> alguem sabe??
[09:05] <mustard5> drc, as a last desperate move I would search on your onboard sound model name on the ubuntuforums for others with that setup
[09:05] <soundray> lesshaste, it's a documentation file that a cursory search for top documentation on my system turned up. It may be worth reading.
[09:05] <HappyFool> joao: /join #ubuntu-pt
[09:05] <_jason> joao: escreve /j #ubuntu-pt
[09:05] <Zen> joao: Va a #ubuntu-pt por favor
[09:05] <hyakuhei> evening all, how do I enable serial devices in ubuntu?
[09:05] <roico> i did an hebrew fix for my ipod, and from that point gtkpod stopped syncing stuff to it...
[09:05] <roico> the changes r saved only at gtkpod itself, but after ejecting the ipod nothing changes there
[09:05] <tech9iner> albeit sad for unreasonably prevalent windBLOWz users / dependents ;[..
[09:06] <roico> can anyone help me??
[09:06] <jrei> drc: when you try xmms to play sound. does it show the beats in display or is it hanging
[09:06] <levander> Someone can tell me why when I try to copy a file to my sambe share, I get permission denied?  I've set the dsmask to 777 and the fmask to 666 in /etc/fstab, I've checked them with ls -l and they look right to me.
[09:06] <lesshaste> soundray: ok thx
[09:06] <mustard5> roico, its a pretty specialised problem..it might be slow finding someone who knows
[09:06] <drc> brb, i dont have xmms
[09:06] <zytrax> hello everybody
[09:06] <tech9iner> roico: no.. ;] ] .. teasing here.. dont ask for help.. ask specific questions mate.. ;] 
[09:07] <roico> tech9iner: i did...
[09:07] <tech9iner> oops wrong nick/channel roico .. mea culpa
[09:07] <tech9iner> hehe
[09:07] <WereCat> Hi there! I'm just trying ubuntu out for the first time, and it seems pretty easy. But how do I get MPlayer installed? I did enable both universe and multiverse repositories, but I still can't find MPlayer in Synaptic
[09:07] <Zen> any clues when fglrx is going to work right on AMD64?  [hah, or i386 for that matter!] 
[09:07] <jrei> drc: apt is your freind ^^
[09:07] <soundray> lesshaste, and, seriously, if you need to know and cannot find out any other way, consider looking at the source. It's very easy to get with apt-get source procps
[09:07] <tech9iner> sorry.. switchn bit too hastily tween many irc channels 'll sure make frienz fast ya know roico rofl..
[09:07] <jrei> friend
[09:07] <mustard5> WereCat, did you update first?
[09:07] <lesshaste> soundray: thx
[09:08] <mustard5> WereCat, how did you add the repositories?
[09:08] <zytrax> how to modify screen resolution better then 1024-768?
[09:08] <mustard5> zytrax, I have a link..one sec
[09:08] <soundray> !fixres
[09:08] <WereCat> mustard5, I just enabled them by ticking the checkbox next to them
[09:08] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:08] <zytrax> I have ubuntu as guest in vmware
[09:08] <Zen> zytrax: Video modes are listed in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:09] <soundray> WereCat, have you clicked the Reload icon afterwards?
[09:10] <mustard5> zytrax, you could run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  and that will take you through a whole lot of options that you hit the default choices for, then when you get to resolutions you could add more that are supported by your monitor
[09:10] <levander> gnomefreak: dsmask is an option you can set in /etc/fstab to determine the permissions of directories that are mounted
[09:10] <mustard5> zytrax, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=83973  this had some info on this type of stuff too
[09:10] <gnomefreak> levander: ok ty sorry just never used it :(
[09:10] <bshumate> 
[09:10] <mustard5> WereCat, hmmm ok
[09:10] <zytrax> thanks mustard5
[09:10] <jrei> drc: note - if you turned of the sound server in preferences (killed the esd) you have to change the sound system in system->preferences->Multimedia System Selector if you want to use rhythmbox or gstreamer apps
[09:10] <Zen> Ahh, I love the smell of common questions
[09:11] <mustard5> !info mplayer
[09:11] <zytrax> thanks Zen
[09:11] <lowman62> gnomefreak: you fix your FF1.5 prob today :P
[09:11] <mustard5> !info mplayer-386
[09:11] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[09:11] <Zen> mplayer is a mess to install
[09:11] <gnomefreak> lowman62: :) its all good
[09:11] <byronTheNoob> hi all, could someone help me out with what I think is a firewall problem?
[09:11] <SolPhoenix> soundray: For some reason when I rebooted... the changes didn't stay in effect.  What was the command to get grub to reload the menu.lst file again?
[09:12] <zytrax> how to run sudo?
[09:12] <soundray> SolPhoenix, sudo update-grub
[09:12] <Zen> just sudo commands
[09:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak, cool glad to hear it
[09:12] <HappyFool> screen is for the strong!
[09:12] <mustard5> zytrax, you do it in terminal
[09:12] <Zen> eg: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:12] <mustard5> zytrax, you used a terminal yet?
[09:12] <Zen> it'll ask for your pw
[09:12] <jrei> any laptop user here with fglrx and beamer?
[09:12] <gnomefreak> lol HappyFool screen is confusing
[09:12] <dalamar> im stumped here, i had a new 5.10 ubuntu install connected to a hub via a usb network adaptor, also connected to the hub is a winxp machine which is connected to the cable modem via another network card. I turned on internet connection sharing on the xp box and just turned on eth0 and set it to dhcp on the ubuntu box and internet was working fine .. i did my ubuntu update and installed some media stuff and restarted now internet doesnt wor
[09:13] <zytrax> mmmmh i am so sorry but I am a real newbie
[09:13] <tuxie> screen rules :)
[09:13] <gnomefreak> i do have to say irssi is a witch to learn tho
[09:13] <anavim> maybe the fifth time I try to like screen it will stick
[09:13] <WereCat> I just see mozilla-mplayer and mga-vid-source in Synaptic when trying to search for MPlayer
[09:13] <gnomefreak> lol
[09:13] <tuxie> screen -x is teh shit
[09:13] <lowman62> gnomefreak, try bitchx...itsa B@#$%
[09:13] <soundray> anavim, there is a good chance. I like screen, as long as I take its documentation in small doses.
[09:14] <gnomefreak> lowman62: i love bitchx but this is growing on me
[09:14] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Whenever I update-grub, it gets rid of the acpi=off part
[09:14] <ve1> humm my doubt isn't to put samba working is to configure the user who has access to the shared folders
[09:14] <gnomefreak> brb
[09:14] <lowman62> gnomefreak, since i am moving and all my putes are packed except this cr@ppy winbox cr@ptop..I have to use cygwin and bitchx to survive for a couple of weeks :(
[09:15] <soundray> SolPhoenix, can you pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst as it is right now pls.
[09:15] <mustard5> dalamar, I think there is a command to start it up manually, but I don't know it unfortunately
[09:15] <soundray> SolPhoenix, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:15] <ve1> do you know how can i configure that ?
[09:15] <Zen> zytrax: sudo is just a command you stick before regular commands when you want to execute those commands as root--it literally means "super user do", same as running as root ("Administrator")
[09:15] <jrei> solphoenix: you can put it in the upper settings in the menu.lst - please read from top of the file you will find it
[09:15] <Zen> zytrax: It lets you modify system files, etc
[09:16] <mustard5> dalamar, I think its something like ifup eth0
[09:16] <soundray> jrei, that's what I instructed him to do.
[09:16] <jrei> solphoenix: these settings will be used for all entries
[09:16] <zytrax> got it thanks
[09:16] <zytrax> how is the string to install vmware tools?
[09:16] <armosfighter> I'm a noob and i need help....
[09:16] <jrei> soundray: ok, sorry didn't got that
[09:16] <lowman62> well i am having ubuntu withdrawals...think i will try the livecd and see how that goes...brb
[09:16] <tuxie> any timeline on dapper? I dist-upgraded to dapper a few days ago, ending up with a completly unusable system and had to reinstall.. :P
[09:16] <soundray> jrei, it's been a while.
[09:17] <Zen> zytrax: now that, I don't know--sorry :)
[09:17] <gilles> hi
[09:17] <Zen> zytrax: I'm running genuinely
[09:17] <anavim> tuxie: time-line for dapper is release in april
[09:17] <idefix_> someone using MSN is trying to use his webcam
[09:17] <drc> jrei, alright. no luck. i'm gonna search the forums. let me know if you think of anything
[09:17] <idefix_> but I cannot see it using gaim
[09:17] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[09:17] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[09:17] <zytrax> could be like:sudo rpm -i /home/zytrax/Desktop/VMwareTools-5.5.0-18463.i386.rpm ???
[09:17] <idefix_> guys?
[09:17] <anavim> tuxie: I couldn't dist-upgrade to dapper either, but a clean install worked fine for me
[09:17] <jrei> drc: ok good luke
[09:17] <mustard5> idefix_, I don't think its supported in GAIM atm
[09:18] <Zen> what's supposed to be new with Dapper?
[09:18] <gilles> i experinced kernel cahes with dapper test cd, any hints ?
[09:18] <Spec> so dapper is coming out 4/20/06?
[09:18] <Spec> that's kinda cool.
[09:18] <idefix_> mustard5 so linux is not the best OS in the world!
[09:18] <mustard5> idefix_, heh
[09:18] <gnomefreak> Spec: yes that is the soonest
[09:18] <drc> jrei, i dont get it. i try and play a sound and i get that "couldnt set/get on resource" or whatever
[09:18] <mustard5> idefix_, not if it doesnt work for your needs no :)
[09:18] <drc> great i think the forums are down
[09:18] <mikes_> I feel like an idiot having to ask this but I've thoroughly searched and cant' fidn the answer
[09:18] <soundray> Zen, check out http://lwn.net/Articles/168040/
[09:18] <pm> has anyone got the newest amarok?
[09:18] <trappist> drc: that 'or whatever' part sounds nasty
[09:18] <idefix_> !webcam
[09:19] <ubotu> I heard webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[09:19] <ve1> how can i  configure the user who has access to the shared folders @ samba ??
[09:19] <mustard5> idefix_, I tell people to use what works for them :)
[09:19] <gnomefreak> idefix_: the best OS in the world would depend on you
[09:19] <mikes_> My ubuntu installation "up arrow recall command" doesn't work
[09:19] <jrei> drc: with xmms or rhythmbox?
[09:19] <mustard5> idefix_, support is coming...but its not available today
[09:19] <drc> sound recorder
[09:19] <drc> should i try with xmms?
[09:19] <tuxie> anavim: I haven't tried installing dapper but the livecd has the same problems I got.. ie didn't detect hardware, no sound etc.. the powerpc64 version that is..
[09:19] <Flog> im following the grub config guide in ubuntuguide.org but when i try to cp the menu.lst to a backup it doesnt work.
[09:19] <Zen> I think the best OS in the world would be Linus Soft Windows XP Ultra Pro :)
[09:19] <idefix_> mustard5: so in half a year it's there?
[09:19] <mikes_> any ideas?
[09:19] <julian> Hi guys. Sorry to bother. I have a question about PHP5 + PDO + PDO_MYSQL on Ubuntu. Does anybody know how to get it working?
[09:19] <Zen> windows with a linux kernel heh
[09:19] <jrei> drc: ok, have you changed System -> Preferences -> Multimedia system Selector?
[09:19] <anavim> tuxie: any particular reason why you need dapper instead of breezy?
[09:20] <mustard5> idefix_, I have no idea..I don't use a webcam :)
[09:20] <jrei> drc: by default it will try the esd which is not running on your mashine
[09:20] <drc> jrei, yea its alsa
[09:20] <soundray> ve1, I think it's /etc/smbpasswd -- was it not in the page I pointed you to?
[09:20] <urgon> bonjour, g un pb avec evolution
[09:20] <gnomefreak> !fr
[09:20] <urgon> mon client de messagerie
[09:20] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[09:20] <pm> xmms has ugly fonts. only with MS fonts it looks ok :)
[09:20] <SolPhoenix> soundray, I've just posted the bits before and after acpi=off, since I'm having to type it up. http://pastebin.com/510380  That part disappears, however, when I update-grub
[09:20] <DeAdPsyKo> Hello
[09:20] <tuxie> anavim: not really since I can apt-src the few selected updated packages I need from dapper in breezy :)
[09:20] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:21] <jrei> drc: I suggest you try xmms for a cross check, I had some trouble the gstreamer and my old system too
[09:21] <soundray> SolPhoenix, you need to put acpi=off in the same line as kopt.
[09:21] <lotusleaf> I'm manually installing Thunderbird 1.5, in addition to uninstalling the old Thunderbird, do I need to do anything special? Will it muck up my ~/.mozilla settings at all?
[09:21] <tech9iner> any Umates familiar with sketchup app please?.. if yes know of closest matching app for linux please?
[09:21] <armosfighter> does anyone know of a good place for noobs?
[09:21] <drc> jrei, ok i'm installing it now
[09:21] <armosfighter> like a channel or website
[09:21] <armosfighter> ?
[09:21] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:21] <lotusleaf> armosfighter: ubuntuforums.org, linuxquestions.org
[09:21] <anavim> tuxie: dapper is only walfway though development, so I'd give it some time to stabilize...
[09:21] <lotusleaf> armosfighter: this channel, #linux
[09:21] <mustard5> armosfighter, here is good channel
[09:22] <tech9iner> arg.. if yes know of closest matching OpenSource app for linux please?
[09:22] <anavim> walfway, lol
[09:22] <armosfighter> i have a really simple question
[09:22] <armosfighter> and i cant find it in google
[09:22] <mustard5> armosfighter, fire away :)
[09:22] <SolPhoenix> soundray: So... "# kopt=root=/dev/sda2 ro acpi=off"?
[09:22] <armosfighter> i tried to configure xmms player
[09:22] <soundray> SolPhoenix, exactly.
[09:22] <armosfighter> and i get the GLIB 1.2.2 missing thing
[09:22] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:22] <armosfighter> and i was told i already have it
[09:22] <soundray> SolPhoenix, sorry this wasn't clear from my previous instructions.
[09:22] <mustard5> armosfighter, did you install via synaptic?
[09:23] <armosfighter> no i didnt
[09:23] <gnomefreak> roico: is it related to ubuntu?
[09:23] <armosfighter> im using terminal
[09:23] <mustard5> armosfighter, well i would do it that way
[09:23] <pentanon> hey
[09:23] <armosfighter> what would it be under?
[09:23] <roico> gnomefreak: it is realted to linux
[09:23] <armosfighter> multimedia
[09:23] <armosfighter> ?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> armosfighter: sudo apt-get glib
[09:23] <armosfighter> okay
[09:23] <gnomefreak> install even
[09:23] <mustard5> armosfighter, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:23] <julian> Hi guys. Sorry to bother. I have a question about PHP5 + PDO + PDO_MYSQL on Ubuntu. Does anybody know how to get it working?
[09:23] <armosfighter> in terminal right?
[09:23] <gnomefreak> roico: what is the issue?
[09:23] <Zen> I doubt I'll get an amen to this one, but I think a desktop environment that more closely resembles XP would be nifty.  It would simplify things for us heavy dual-world learned-win-first users
[09:23] <tuxie> apt-src is cool and works great. however, I can't get apt-build to work... :(
[09:23] <mikes_> Anyone have a suggestion why my "up arrow" recall command key doesn't work?
[09:23] <SolPhoenix> soundray: It's okay.  I'm just new to Linux.  Hopefully it'll work now.
[09:23] <anavim> Zen, you can configure ubuntu to look that way
[09:23] <Zen> It'd be like Windows, only it wouldn't crash =] 
[09:24] <soundray> SolPhoenix, did you get my warning about this solution
[09:24] <soundray> ?
[09:24] <mustard5> armosfighter, well could just get the glib and continuing installing the way you have been doing it, but its available already in the repositories
[09:24] <gnomefreak> tuxie: what are you trying to apt-get build-dep?
[09:24] <anavim> Zen: the question is, why would anyone bother?  ;)
[09:24] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Yeah.
[09:24] <roico> gnomefreak: I don't really think u could help me, but lets try... i did an hebrew fix for my ipod... from that point gtkpod stopped working
[09:24] <jrei> armosfighter: you can try a 'apt-get install -f' to recheck debendencies
[09:24] <Zen> anavim: really?  I didn't know of any GTK themes that even got close
[09:24] <mustard5> !xmms
[09:24] <ubotu> [xmms]  to get xmms to work in Ubuntu Hoary, set the output plugin to eSound (right-click on the XMMS window, then choose Options -> Preferences)
[09:24] <mustard5> !info xmms
[09:24] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[09:24] <soundray> SolPhoenix, you probably need to read up on getting the Yukon Marvel Ethernet driver to work.
[09:24] <SolPhoenix> soundray: I'll try to find another way around it.  Maybe get the latest drivers and compile them or something.
[09:24] <tuxie> gnomefreak, kde 3.5.0 (from kubuntu), firefox 1.5, qt 4.1 ..
[09:25] <mustard5> armosfighter, if you type sudo apt-get install xmms   that will install it
[09:25] <drc> jrei, still no sound
[09:25] <anavim> Zen: I don't remember the name or url, but it's out there for either kde or gnome
[09:25] <armosfighter> ok
[09:25] <armosfighter> ill try it
[09:25] <gnomefreak> roico: your right me nad hebrew dont mix but after trying gtkpod and banshee i founf banshee to have more extras :(
[09:25] <soundray> SolPhoenix, bit of a challenge for a beginner... But there's always someone here to help.
[09:25] <mustard5> armosfighter, put your user password in when it asks for a password
[09:25] <mikes_> Anyone have a suggestion as to how I can get my "up arrow" recall command key to work?
[09:25] <drc> jrei, xmms equalizer does show the bars moving though
[09:25] <jrei> ok who broke ubuntuforums.org? blame him
[09:25] <armosfighter> k
[09:25] <gnomefreak> tuxie: apt-get build-dep kde or kubuntu-desktop doesnt work?
[09:25] <jrei> drc: ok than sound works
[09:26] <armosfighter> do i put the unziped file name?
[09:26] <armosfighter> or tar.gz
[09:26] <armosfighter> at the end
[09:26] <mustard5> armosfighter, you type the command I put above
[09:26] <soundray> mikes_, have you got a special keyboard? Laptop? How is it laid out?
[09:26] <mustard5> armosfighter, sudo apt-get install xmms
[09:26] <gnomefreak> tuxie: normally build-dep doesnt rely on versions
[09:26] <mikes_> Soundray: nah, microsoft keyboard
[09:26] <mikes_> nothign special
[09:26] <tuxie> gnomefreak, that only get the dependencies for building, right?
[09:26] <jrei> drc: please retry alsamixer since the other mixer is dead now, and check if something is muted
[09:26] <armosfighter> it says it is not available
[09:26] <SolPhoenix> soundray: It works for now!  Thanks a bunch!  At least networking is running now.  I can worry about fixing it so that acpi will work later.
[09:26] <roico> gnomefreak: thanks ill try it... but i dont think thats the problem... i think it changed something about the DB or something like that...
[09:26] <armosfighter> but is referred to by another package
[09:27] <gnomefreak> tuxie: you get the deps that the package needs to build/run
[09:27] <mustard5> armosfighter, do a sudo apt-get update
[09:27] <soundray> SolPhoenix, well done.
[09:27] <zytrax> Unable to copy the source file ./installer/services.sh to the destination file
[09:27] <zytrax> /etc/init.d/vmware-tools.
[09:27] <zytrax> any help?
[09:27] <armosfighter> does it matter than i have the package on my desktop
[09:27] <armosfighter> ?
[09:27] <mikes_> ^[ is what I get when I hit up arrow
[09:27] <jrei> drc: unmute all and raise all mixer volumnes to upper green
[09:27] <mustard5> armosfighter, not really
[09:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > hey peeps
[09:27] <tuxie> the problem is that apt-build says that "C compiler is unable to create executables" on every configure script, and as a test I did apt-build bzip2 (which doesn't use autoconf) and it exits with "collect2: cannot find 'ld'" :P
[09:27] <zytrax> I am following these instructions to install vmware tools: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1079.html
[09:27] <jrei> drc: if you still don't here a sound try to rais them to max.
[09:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how do i install the multimedia codecs?
[09:27] <progrock> When setting up a Dual boot system.. which should I install first, ubuntu or windows?
[09:27] <SolPhoenix> soundray: Wireless even works properly now.
[09:27] <soundray> mikes_, is this in a gnome terminal?
[09:27] <tuxie> however using apt-src works fine
[09:28] <gnomefreak> build-essential will give you the toold to build the app tuxie
[09:28] <mustard5> armosfighter, sudo apt-get update should reload the package information from the repository
[09:28] <_jason> ubotu: tell [dEvIL-bOY]  about multimedia
[09:28] <roico> gnomefreak: When i change somethinf (lets say - i rename a song), gtkpod will change the name song - even if i eject the ipod and put it back - the name will be changed in gtkpod itself...
[09:28] <soundray> SolPhoenix, I hope it doesn't overheat.
[09:28] <mikes_> Soundray: Yes
[09:28] <mustard5> armosfighter, then you do the sudo apt-get install xmms again
[09:28] <jrei> drc: and if there is still no sound i suggest you try other speackers headphones or what you use.
[09:28] <tuxie> gnomefreak, already installed. it's probably ppc-specific :(
[09:28] <drc> jrei, even with everything at max i get no sound.
[09:28] <mustard5> armosfighter, assuming the update is error free :)
[09:28] <mikes_> Soundray: Dont know if it matters but even when I shell in from the outside, I still cant use up arrow
[09:28] <gnomefreak> tuxie: your on ppc?
[09:28] <roico> gnomefreak: But the name wont be changed on the ipod
[09:29] <zAo^> forum down?
[09:29] <tuxie> gnomefreak, yes.. g5 even :)
[09:29] <soundray> mikes_, does it work properly on the text console? (Ctrl-Alt-F1. To get back to gnome, Alt-F7)
[09:29] <gnomefreak> tuxie: it should be smae but i havent used a mac in years :(
[09:29] <anavim> tuxie: if you type "which ld" in the terminal, what answer do you get?
[09:29] <jrei> drc: I know this sounds unfair, but please dubble check the plug. it should be in the green on, on common desktop systems
[09:29] <tuxie> /usr/bin/ld ... and ld works fine. manually compiling works fine. apt-src -i install foo works fine. just not apt-build
[09:29] <anavim> tuxie: wow, sounds bad
[09:29] <gnomefreak> roico: im not sure
[09:30] <armosfighter> eh.. what does it mean by no installation candidate
[09:30] <armosfighter> did i screw up?
[09:30] <mikes_> Soundray: Not in front of the machine now, I'll have to try when I get home :(
[09:30] <mustard5> armosfighter, no..your doing fine
[09:30] <gnomefreak> tuxie: apt-get build-dep
[09:30] <soundray> mikes_, okay.
[09:30] <trappist> tuxie: I have the same problem.  I've spent hours trying to solve it.  CC=/usr/bin/gcc apt-build whatever fixes the cannot-create-executables part, but it still can't find ld
[09:30] <mustard5> armosfighter, something is amiss in your repository settings
[09:30] <drc> jrei, its a laptop. the speakers are built in. however i tried using the headphone port as well jsut now and theres no sound through that either
[09:30] <anavim> tuxie: maybe reinstall/reconfigure apt-build, not sure
[09:30] <soundray> mikes_, are you sure you're running bash?
[09:30] <gnomefreak> not apt-build ohhhhhhhhhh unless your letting apt build the m for you
[09:30] <mustard5> !info xmms
[09:30] <ubotu> xmms: (Versatile X audio player that looks like Winamp), section sound, is optional. Version: 1.2.10+cvs20050209-2ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 979 kB, Installed size: 7216 kB
[09:30] <gnomefreak> nm im still sleeping
[09:30] <mikes_> Soundray: When I installed, I was using bash by default however I'm now using csh
[09:30] <jrei> drc: if everything is connected well, i only could suggest to reload the sound modules, but that would be the same as a restart
[09:31] <mustard5> armosfighter, hmm..it should be in the main repository..so its a bit of a mystery
[09:31] <armosfighter> main repository?
[09:31] <drc> jrei, damn, tried that too. just curious but should there be a program caled "alsaconf" on ubuntu?
[09:31] <armosfighter> should i install it into the root
[09:31] <tuxie> trappist, you're on ppc also?
[09:31] <armosfighter> ?
[09:31] <roico> gnomefreak: Did you understand my problem?
[09:31] <armosfighter> or just try it all again
[09:31] <mustard5> armosfighter, yeah..ubuntu uses online repositories to install software...17,000 + packages
[09:31] <trappist> tuxie: no
[09:31] <soundray> mikes_, could it be that you need to set up csh for command line editing? Consider copying a .cshrc or similar from where you work and using it at home.
[09:31] <tuxie> ok, it isn't ppc specific then..
[09:31] <jrei> drc: i don't have it
[09:31] <armosfighter> k
[09:32] <gnomefreak> roico: yes
[09:32] <mustard5> armosfighter, I think we should fix your repository problem
[09:32] <drc> k
[09:32] <armosfighter> yea i think we should
[09:32] <armosfighter> lol
[09:32] <mustard5> can you PM me and I'll walk you through it
[09:32] <mikes_> Soundray: Actually, I did that :) I copied my .cshrc from my work-workstation
[09:32] <armosfighter> how do you PM someone
[09:32] <armosfighter> ?
[09:32] <tuxie> I'll try installing apt-build from dapper when qt 4.1 finishes compiling :)
[09:32] <pm> did anyone call me? :)
[09:32] <mikes_> I dont think it's in the .cshrc fiel
[09:32] <anavim> pm, no
[09:32] <gnomefreak> lol pm no they are talking about /msg
[09:32] <mikes_> From what I can see
[09:33] <mustard5> armosfighter, I PMed you instead
[09:33] <soundray> mikes_, okay. Maybe it's set up from /etc/ at work.
[09:33] <pm> i know :P
[09:33] <anavim> lol
[09:33] <mustard5> armosfighter, you see the other chat window ?
[09:33] <jrei> is anyone here who uses fglrx and a second monitor or beamer
[09:34] <trappist> jrei: I do
[09:34] <pm> i just saw the message on my taskbar :P
[09:34] <soundray> jrei, beamer is a German pseudoanglicism. Use 'data projector'
[09:34] <armosfighter> yea
[09:34] <mustard5> armosfighter, ok..chat in there
[09:34] <trappist> jrei: I just run fglrxconfig and it's all good
[09:34] <armosfighter> kk
[09:34] <jrei> trappist: do you restart x?
[09:35] <jrei> soundray: thanks
[09:35] <trappist> jrei: well yeah, that's necessary.  fglrxconfig just rewrites your x config
[09:35] <versaily> is there a way to make ur dual os com (windows/ubuntu) default boot to windows/ubuntu?
[09:35] <mustard5> armosfighter, I'm not seeing you typing in the PM :)
[09:35] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:35] <anavim> versaily: yes, in the grub menu.lst file
[09:35] <versaily> grup menu...
[09:35] <jrei> trappist: have you thought of a second xorg.xonf for the second screen. using it with nolvds,crt2
[09:35] <versaily> how would i get there?
[09:36] <mustard5> armosfighter, are you registered on IRC?
[09:36] <anavim> versaily: the location defaults to /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:36] <trappist> jrei: never had a reason to consider doing that.  why?
[09:36] <versaily> is that menu."ell" or menu."one"?
[09:36] <anavim> ell
[09:36] <versaily> k thx
[09:36] <armosfighter> i guess
[09:37] <armosfighter> ?
[09:37] <mustard5> armosfighter, hmmm
[09:37] <armosfighter> can you see me type
[09:37] <armosfighter> ?
[09:37] <armosfighter> lol
[09:37] <jrei> trappist: i realy like to find a better way then restarting the main x sine I use 12 workspaces fild with several applications. and I don't want to restart all of them, just to connect to a projector
[09:37] <zoexii> hello... I am interested in a video capture card, preferably one with builtin mpeg4 encoding.  are any of these linux compatable?  is there a compatability list for capture cards/chipsets?
[09:37] <mustard5> armosfighter, nope :)
[09:37] <armosfighter> damn
[09:37] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:37] <anavim> armosfighter: did you say something?
[09:37] <mustard5> armosfighter, type this  /join #kubuntu-offtopic
[09:37] <gnomefreak> to check midsum its mdsum <file> right?
[09:37] <armosfighter> in this room
[09:37] <mustard5> armosfighter, yeah
[09:38] <idefix_> vi-editor is like masochism man
[09:38] <tuxie> idefix_, yes, isn't it lovely? :)
[09:38] <soundray> tuxie, :)
[09:38] <anavim> idefix_: nah, having to use non-automated text editors is masochism
[09:39] <roico> Can some1 help me with a really complicated problem related to an ipod??
[09:39] <trappist> jrei: a second xorg.conf might be a reasonable solution for that.  there's probably another, but I never had any reason to look into it.
[09:39] <soundray> roico, is it Ubuntu-related?
[09:40] <roico> soundray: its linux-related, but its really really complicated...
[09:40] <tuxie> idefix_, vim is great once you learn the basic commands and get used to it
[09:40] <versaily> roico, what seems to be ur problem?
[09:40] <kinko> hi, i am a newer in ubuntu and have a question: this distro configure the lan setting in the installation?
[09:41] <soundray> roico, that's not a very accurate description.
[09:41] <joao> #ubunto.br
[09:41] <jrei> trappist: ok, i will give it a shot in the next weeks. I will post it on ubuntuforums if it worked. I just like things to work on linux if they do on onther OS.
[09:41] <gnomefreak> kinko: yes most of time
[09:41] <jrei> have a nice time, cu
[09:41] <soundray> jrei tschuess dann
[09:41] <trappist> roico: does rhythmbox work? both apps use libgpod, so if rhythmbox works we can narrow it down to a gtkpod problem
[09:41] <roico> soundray, versaily, i did an hebrew fix for my ipod and from that point i have problems using it under linux
[09:41] <joao> um canal em portugues
[09:41] <joao> alguen sabe
[09:42] <soundray> roico, how about undoing that fix?
[09:42] <gnomefreak> kinko: all hardware is different so it all depends on the hardware if it will be configured during install
[09:42] <anavim> roico: what kind of problems?
[09:42] <roico> trappist - ill try...
[09:42] <versaily> roico, ok... to advanced for me...
[09:42] <joao> chanel br?????
[09:42] <joao> ????
[09:42] <cappiz> how can i make my server installation to a fully workstation installation?
[09:42] <roico> anavim: i like that fix... =)
[09:42] <roico> anavim: ata israely?
[09:42] <anavim> roico: no
[09:42] <trappist> joao: #ubuntu-pt
[09:42] <gnomefreak> versaily: thats what i said too :) my ipod works fine with banshee so i dont mess with settings :)
[09:43] <soundray> cappiz, either 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop'; alternatively kubuntu-desktop
[09:43] <kinko> gnomefreak can i put in the installation the config for ip, mask, ... ?
[09:43] <anavim> roico: someone told me my nick means grapes, lol
[09:43] <roico> anavim: yes lol... thats why i asked... =)
[09:43] <versaily> gnomefreak, roico, yeh i have a apple computer so i use my ipod excluselvly under mac os x!
[09:43] <gnomefreak> kinko: no you will need to wait til after the install
[09:43] <gnomefreak> versaily: smart move
[09:43] <cappiz> soundray thanks
[09:43] <cappiz> :)
[09:44] <versaily> yeh i figure native is best...
[09:44] <gnomefreak> kinko: the best thing to do is let install do all the work
[09:44] <david_m_e> any know what to do when 'sudo' stops working? (gedit /etc/password brings up file in read-only mode; sudo gedit /etc/passwd, which used to bring up in writable, now just returns to command line) ?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> david_m_e: did you enamble su?
[09:45] <soundray> roico, if whatever Linux software you are using is incompatible with your Hebrew fix, the authors will probably be interested.
[09:45] <zytrax> what's the uninstall command?
[09:45] <tuxie> david_m_e, do you get any errors/messages?
[09:45] <david_m_e> gnomefreak: i don't know; all i know is that sudo... used to allow me to edit /etc/passwd, but now it doesn't
[09:45] <mihai_> can anyone please help me to convert a folder of aac m4a files to mp3?
[09:45] <gnomefreak> s/enamble/enable
[09:45] <versaily> sudo apt-get remove is uninstall command
[09:45] <soundray> roico, just make sure you don't tell them "it's really complicated" instead of giving an accurate problem description with error messages.
[09:45] <david_m_e> tuxie: no
[09:45] <tuxie> david_m_e, what does "sudo id" say?
[09:46] <david_m_e> i will find out
[09:46] <soundray> zytrax, what for?
[09:46] <david_m_e> i'm sorry, but i just answered a phone call i have to take; i have to go - thanks
[09:46] <idefix_> you download something, unpack it and select it from synaptic and you can run it?
[09:46] <roico> soundray: i dont really think so... =) there are maybe 2% linux users in israel,  and there is also a fix for iTunes itself... so i am not supposed to use other programs...
[09:46] <zytrax> thanks versaily
[09:46] <mihai_> because I've broken my ipod again with banshee and I want to try to restore it with gtkpod
[09:46] <idefix_> no, you download something, unpack it and you must make it appear in synaptic, but how?!?
[09:46] <mihai_> but most of the files from the backup are m4a aac files
[09:47] <versaily> zytram, np
[09:47] <roico> soundray: and there is no error message...
[09:47] <joao> i need a very good mp3 player to linux!! any one now???
[09:47] <soundray> roico, I mean the authors of the Linux program.
[09:47] <zytrax> now install please
[09:47] <soundray> roico, are you sure that you haven't just missed it?
[09:47] <zytrax> apt-get?
[09:47] <roico> soundray: missed what?
[09:47] <lesshaste> can anyone help me with a xvid options for mencoder? I would like "MPEG quantization, QPel, VHQ for B-frames"
[09:47] <versaily> is there a way to "uninstall" the complete ubunut os???
[09:47] <gnomefreak> idefix_: if you are talking about a .tar.gz it shouldnt have anything to do with synaptic
[09:47] <idefix_> oh heck!
[09:47] <idefix_> oh
[09:47] <anavim> roico: you should email the gtkpod authors and see if they have advice or a soon-coming fix
[09:47] <soundray> roico, the error message.
[09:48] <tuxie> joao: what do you mean with "very good"? if you want a winamp-alike, try beep-media-player
[09:48] <mihai_> can someone help me convert aac to mp3?
[09:49] <gnomefreak> mdsum is the command to check the iso?
[09:49] <roico> soundray: There is no error message... my problem is that it when i change something on my ipod (lets say a song name) - it does change on the program, but when i disconnect my ipod - it does change anything...
[09:49] <versaily> use mp3 converterr (nt sure how to get it) might just be sudo apt-get install command might work...
[09:49] <soundray> mihai_, you need to go via WAV, and you'll lose a lot of quality in the process.
[09:49] <_jason> gnomefreak: md5sum
[09:49] <roico> anavim: yeah thats a good idea... ill do that soon
[09:49] <tuxie> mihai_, ffmpeg
[09:49] <NytHacker> Hello
[09:49] <gnomefreak> ty _jason
[09:50] <lowman62> thank the powers that be for a livecd or i would be chewing my fingers off being stuck in windoughzZzzzZ XPEE err! :P
[09:50] <soundray> roico, I don't understand what you mean by "it does change anything".
[09:50] <versaily> i tunes is the best program for song conversin but apple doesn't seem to like to release any source code back to open source only take form it...
[09:50] <NytHacker> any of you guys know how to work a gamepad on VisualBoy Advance on Ubuntu 5.10?
[09:50] <lowman62> gnomefreak: 4 out of 5 livecd's failed from shipit ;)
[09:51] <nowaycomputer> does anyone know of a url of a .deb for microshaft true type fonts? apt-get just times out connections to sourceforge and others?
[09:51] <versaily> lowman62, wow! a;though i don't really no about htat i have 10 and 9 of them work...
[09:51] <trappist> nowaycomputer: if you have universe, sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts
[09:51] <NytHacker> Visualboy Advance works but I want to play with my gamepad. How is this done?
[09:51] <soundray> nowaycomputer, msttcorefonts is in multiverse
[09:51] <mihai_> soundray, don't care very much is I loose quality. I just want to make the ipod to work again
[09:51] <gnomefreak> lowman62: the install cds are same way :)
[09:52] <zytrax> ubuntu forum seems to be down!
[09:52] <fireonyx> zytrax, getting the same
[09:52] <lowman62> versaily: I have 10 as well I am just saying it took me 5 to finally get up and running...the other four failed in several different ways...when I looked at the cd's they were so badly scratched up it was unreal
[09:52] <trappist> zytrax: down for maintenance
[09:52] <nowaycomputer> how do i change apt-get settings to use multiverse?
[09:52] <mihai_> tuxie, ffmpeg how?
[09:52] <trappist> !tell nowaycomputer about repos
[09:52] <nowaycomputer> thanks
[09:53] <roico> soundray: Lets say i rename a song, and the a click the "sync" button... now i eject my ipod - the name doesn't change... if i come back to gtkpod - The name is the new one - but only on the program - i tried on gtkpod and another program (forgot its name...)...
[09:53] <versaily> lowman62, oic what u mean! the files don't fial just the cd's die from abusive handiling...
[09:53] <versaily> *fail
[09:53] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I have heard others complain that they are having troubles installing with shipits cds am wondering if that is the exact same prob
[09:53] <joao> i need a god program to mix music's in linux!! any one kow one'?????
[09:53] <tuxie> mihai_, faad -w foo.m4a | lame --preset standard - bar.mp3
[09:53] <mihai_> I just need the very simple way to convert a folder full of m4a aac files to mp3 at 128 cbr or abr or something
[09:53] <gnomefreak> versaily: the cds arnt always burnt right
[09:53] <pokafiesta> hola bunas
[09:53] <tuxie> mihai_, sudo apt-get install faad lame
[09:53] <lowman62> versaily: yes from being shipped I guess
[09:53] <fireonyx> having a problem, cant search the forums :(  Trying to get suspend to memory to work...  when I do so, it goes blank, but I cant get back, do a hard boot, and x allows me to log in as normal, but natilus/etc doesnt load, just have a big brown screen and a mouse... any ideas how to get my xwindows back?
[09:54] <gnomefreak> thats why i order so many i test and the good ones i give out and or keep
[09:54] <versaily> gnomefreak, wow! that 2!?!
[09:54] <gnomefreak> <<made hoary mistake and only ordered 1
[09:54] <soundray> roico, have you checked /var/log/syslog for any errors that appear when you sync or eject?
[09:54] <NytHacker> Can anybody help me on my VisualBoy Advance question?
[09:54] <pokafiesta> install program??
[09:54] <lowman62> gnomefreak: I think I will stick with downloading the iso's for now on LOL
[09:54] <gnomefreak> lol yes
[09:54] <factotum> anyone here set up pan newsreader before? Im at the screen where it asks what mail server Pan should use. Do I use something like a pop or smtp server here?
[09:54] <rixth> Yeah, can you please not be facist arseholes and unban my non-cloaked host?
[09:54] <roico> soundray: nope... ill check now...
[09:54] <versaily> (well anyway they are fre so u can't complain 2 much...)
[09:54] <factotum> Right now it says localhost.localdomain
[09:55] <rixth> (60-x-x-x.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[09:55] <versaily> *free
[09:55] <tuxie> factotum, smtp
[09:55] <factotum> tuxie: thanks
[09:55] <gnomefreak> lol its easier but always good to have the org. cds
[09:55] <gnomefreak> thats right versaily
[09:55] <joao> i need a god program to mix musics in linux!! anyone kow one????
[09:56] <lowman62> versaily: that is true and am not complaining at all am just happy that I can use ubuntu this way till I move and have all my machines back
[09:56] <lowman62> on phone brb
[09:56] <lowman_away> .
[09:56] <dalamar> how can i verify a usb network adapter is being seen/loaded properly in ubuntu?
[09:57] <Davey|Work> dalamar, it probably isn't ;)
[09:57] <roico> soundray: this file is huge...
[09:57] <Davey|Work> dalamar, but System > Device Manager
[09:57] <Davey|Work> or System > Networking
[09:57] <soundray> roico, you can follow it with tail -f /var/log/syslog, then see what happens when you sync.
[09:58] <Davey|Work> dalamar, bleh, both are in System > Administration, sorry
[09:58] <arrinmurr> joao: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Free_audio_software
[09:58] <roico> soundray: ok ill try that...
[09:58] <vincenz> Ok this is slightly OT
[09:58] <versaily> ok... im scared im doing a install on my comp and when i went to resze the hd partition i hit enter and now i have a blu screen (been that way for about 17 mins) the hd is spinning like mad and the cpu is also working like mad but i c nothing on my screen... just blu with grey strip at bottum...] 
[09:58] <vincenz> but does anyone use synergy?
[09:58] <soundray> joao, I like audacity
[09:58] <vincenz> I have synergy server on windows, synergy client on linux and for some reason it wono't connect even though the synergy client gives no issues, basically on windows, I can't go into the so called screen
[09:59] <versaily> can anyone offer some reassuring words???..
[09:59] <SolidBone> hi
[09:59] <mtlife> is there any way to let shorewall reload the rules file without restarting the whole firewall?
[10:00] <soundray> versaily, how big and how full was the partition, and how big is it going to be?
[10:00] <roico> soundray: nothing happens...
[10:00] <joao> soundray: thanks
[10:00] <versaily> it was the whole hd and now it's going to be 75% or it original size
[10:01] <SolidBone> I need some help, my souncard doesnt work properly, M-audio audiophile 192
[10:01] <soundray> roico, it may be that  gtkpod logs the errors somewhere else.
[10:01] <versaily> at first i wanted 50% but it said size to small
[10:01] <soundray> versaily, how full was it?
[10:01] <versaily> so i did 75%
[10:01] <versaily> no idea
[10:01] <roico> soundray: but right when i click this "tail -f /var/log/syslog" i have some kernel stuff... is it normal???...
[10:01] <versaily> it was an old windows partition and not very full...
[10:01] <soundray> versaily, how big in GB?
[10:02] <versaily> 38 gb hd the partition was 36gb
[10:02] <roico> soundray: ill try to find logs now...
[10:02] <versaily> no idea how much info was on the partition
[10:02] <soundray> roico, it depends on what it says. But it is normal for the kernel and other programs to log during regular operations.
[10:02] <nowaycomputer> i set up my repositories for multiverse, but same problem - "Resolving belnet.dl.sourceforge.net... failed: Connection timed out." as before. is there somewhere else it (ttf) can be downloaded?
[10:02] <SpaceMoney> anyone know the su password for live cd?
[10:02] <KoLL>    ??
[10:02] <maxkelley> ttf support should already be installed...
[10:02] <soundray> versaily, give it at least an hour before you get worried.
[10:03] <gnomefreak> nowaycomputer: that not a supported repo
[10:03] <KoLL> Hu
[10:03] <maxkelley> SpaceMoney: go to System > Admin > Users and Groups
[10:03] <roico> soundray: its errors like that: "Jan 17 23:01:40 localhost kernel: [4340980.864000]  atkbd.c: Unknown key released (translated set 2, code 0xaa on isa0060/serio0).
[10:03] <roico> "
[10:03] <maxkelley> then change the root password.
[10:03] <versaily> soudray, ok!...
[10:03] <soundray> versaily, resizing can be hard work for a hd
[10:03] <versaily> soundray, ok nvm about that it's done!
[10:03] <SpaceMoney> Kk thanx Maxkelly\
[10:03] <gnomefreak> nowaycomputer: screw supported thats not a repo you should even have in there  take a look at easysource
[10:03] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell nowaycomputer about easysource
[10:03] <nowaycomputer> thats what it gives me when i issue "sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts", always times out
[10:03] <versaily> soundray, the other comp i did the install on had a progress bar that was what worried me...
[10:03] <maxkelley> Maxkelley is always here to help, SpaceMoney
[10:04] <SolidBone> got a little problem with DNS, can any one give me some IP adress of any website in order to check
[10:04] <SolidBone> google forexample
[10:04] <deefzi> is umask=0222 on mounting that everyone has only read-permissions?
[10:04] <versaily> soundray, depending on the speds of ur hd it will install at different speeds right?... so what should i exspect from a old pIII 800?
[10:05] <gnomefreak> SolidBone: try ping www.google.com should give you ips
[10:05] <nichineim> join #ubuntu-it
[10:05] <soundray> versaily, like I say, give it an hour, maybe two even.
[10:05] <maxkelley> wewt.
[10:05] <anavim> google: 72.14.203.104
[10:05] <versaily> ok
[10:05] <gnomefreak> versaily: no that long
[10:05] <joao> there is an program to linux similar of traktor
[10:05] <versaily> gnomefreak, about how long?
[10:05] <roico> soundray: Do u have any idea where gtkpod logs r??
[10:05] <soundray> versaily, but the absence of a progress bar would worry me too.
[10:06] <gnomefreak> i have a 450 p2 and its short to format a drive
[10:06] <soundray> roico, no, never used it.
[10:06] <versaily> soudray, yeh... but it's over now...
[10:06] <nichineim> JOIN #ubuntu-it
[10:06] <versaily> soundray, it was wierd... mybe just malformed disk or sumtin...
[10:07] <soundray> roico, check out which one is the newest file or directory in /var/log when you synced. (ls -lrt /var/log will show it on the last line)
[10:07] <MacSlow> Does anybody knwo what currently wrong with www.ubuntuforums.org?
[10:07] <soundray> versaily, reassured? :)
[10:07] <mihai_> why faad stops after the first file when I use faad * ?
[10:08] <versaily> jst clearikng sumtin up... under linux one of the first boot commands is unpaking the linux kernel does that mean it is acually compressed ont eh hd?
[10:08] <MacSlow> mihai_, maybe it cannot expand the wildcard itself properly
[10:08] <versaily> soundray, reassured :)
[10:08] <soundray> roico, it may also log to $HOME/.xsession-errors
[10:08] <MacSlow> mihai_, you may try: for file in *; do faad $file; done
[10:08] <Jessehk> Does ubuntuforums.org work for any of you?
[10:08] <acker> yop tout le monde
[10:08] <Jessehk> I'm getting an error
[10:09] <Revellion> anyone here care to answer a simple Q?
[10:09] <MacSlow> Jessehk, nope... that's what I'm wondering about too.
[10:09] <soundray> !anyone
[10:09] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:09] <Revellion> *in here
[10:09] <anavim> Revellion: we might if we knew what it was
[10:09] <Revellion> :)
[10:09] <joao> i need a program to linux like tracktor
[10:09] <gnomefreak> Jessehk: the didnt work yesterday
[10:09] <Revellion> What is the packaging difference between the -686 and -server ?
[10:09] <CanYouHelpMePlz> joao: what does tracktor do?
[10:09] <Revellion> of the linux-images
[10:10] <roico> soundray: The last file is kern.log and it seems to have some ipod-connected stuff... but actually i dont think that will lead us anywhere..
[10:10] <joao> have to vinil's and we can't make scracht
[10:10] <thomas_> hallo
[10:10] <SolidBone> joao you mean da DJ soft?
[10:10] <MacSlow> Revellion, I would guess that the difference in those two kernels is the number/kind of drivers and features compiled in.
[10:10] <versaily> soundray, gnomefreak, wow! it took about a minuet to copy all the files on the hd! (i guess i just have a super fast hd!)
[10:10] <Revellion> MacSlow: hmm
[10:10] !lilo:*! Update to the freenode channel guidelines: http://freenode.net/channel_guidelines.shtml#logging .... please feel to stop by #freenode-wallops if you have any comments or suggestions. Thanks, and have a great evening!
[10:11] <MacSlow> Revellion, but I cannot tell you the exact difference by heart.
[10:11] <Revellion> i guess i'll just download the debs and check the content then
[10:11] <thomas_> hall0
[10:11] <Revellion> thanks for your time :)
[10:11] <gnomefreak> 7200 rmp
[10:11] <gnomefreak> is a fairly fast hd but they get faster :)
[10:11] <versaily> how do i join a new chanle...? /msg nickserv chan foo???
[10:11] <soundray> Revellion, have you looked at the package descriptions?
[10:11] <CanYouHelpMePlz>  /join channel #name
[10:11] <anavim> versaily: /join chan
[10:11] <gnomefreak> versaily: /join #cannel
[10:11] <gnomefreak> channel even
[10:11] <versaily> ok thx
[10:12] <joao> yes yes solidbone
[10:12] <Revellion> soundray: well the package description is quite non-informative
[10:12] <SolidBone> the very first versions of final scratch used to run on linux only
[10:12] <thomas_> wie geht
[10:12] <Revellion> the only difference in the description between the two
[10:12] <roico> soundray: xsessions doesnt have any ipod-related stuf...
[10:12] <lowman62> ok am back
[10:12] <lowman62> :)
[10:12] <soundray> Revellion, just a thought.
[10:12] <Revellion> is that instead of mentioning a list of processors ppro/pentium/etc..
[10:12] <Zen> how can I mount a .img to a folder?
[10:12] <thomas_> was ist
[10:12] <Revellion> it just says Server and the other stuff which is common with the -686 one
[10:12] <SolidBone> but since they moved to traktor is mac an win
[10:12] <joao> yes
[10:12] <joao> yes
[10:12] <lowman62> gnomefreak, I see your just pretending to be huh?
[10:12] <thomas_> hallo
[10:13] <joao> do you kow??? solidbone
[10:13] <versaily> what's the command to mount a windows partition?
[10:13] <SolidBone> any way DJdecks is far better
[10:13] <gnomefreak> lowman62: im burning flight 3 and im about to walk outside
[10:13] <jah_raztah> who stable are the new flight 3 cds?
[10:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell versaily about ntfs
[10:13] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell versaily about mount
[10:13] <lowman62> gnomefreak: enjoy!
[10:13] <gnomefreak> jah_raztah: they are not stable
[10:13] <mihai_> is here anyone who syncs a ipod with linux?
[10:13] <mihai_> because this is maybe the 5th time I break it on linux
[10:13] <mihai_> I have that
[10:13] <gnomefreak> thats why the flight is in there
[10:13] <SolidBone> As far as I know theres no DJ soft for linux right now
[10:14] <Zen> how can I mount a .img to a folder?
[10:14] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell jah_raztah about dapper
[10:14] <Zen> and that's all I'm repeating
[10:14] <thomas_> nein
[10:14] <SolidBone> or at least one capable of be controlled by timecode vinyls
[10:14] <thomas_> was
[10:14] <SpaceMoney> anyone know default livecd 5.1.0 pw for su?
[10:15] <gnomefreak> thomas_: this is a english room
[10:15] <Revellion> SpaceMoney: there is none
[10:15] <joao> is i mean da dj soft
[10:15] <jah_raztah> ok thanks gnomefreak but i wanted to know from someone who is using or used it so far already, i'm aware it's beta and not complete and i'm not a noob
[10:15] <benji_> hey guys, for some reason my updates woint run on ubuntu 5.
[10:15] <lowman62> SpaceMoney: just sudo
[10:15] <jah_raztah> been using ubuntu for close to 1.2 years now
[10:15] <gnomefreak> benji_: an error?
[10:15] <versaily> other than wine is there a way to run windows programs under linux sorta like mol but for windows?
[10:15] <benji_>  hey guys, for some reason my updates woint run on ubuntu 5.10 wont update
[10:15] <soundray> gnomefreak, he's best ignored or kicked.
[10:16] <benji_> sorry gnomefreek acidently preseed enter
[10:16] <gnomefreak> soundray: who thomas?
[10:16] <thomas_> hallo
[10:16] <rixth> Yeah, can you please not be facist arseholes and unban my non-cloaked host?
[10:16] <soundray> gnomefreak, yes.
[10:16] <rixth> (60-x-x-x.bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[10:16] <thomas_> was ist soll
[10:16] <soundray> gnomefreak, sad bot.
[10:17] !lilo:*! Whoops, slight wording change....it was a bit too 'pushy' and I morphed it to be a bit more 'nudgy' 8)
[10:17] <rixth> !info thunderbird
[10:17] <chrisbudden14> hello
[10:17] <thomas_> was ist soll
[10:17] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell rixth about thunderbird
[10:17] <tim> hey guys, if i'm trying to run counterstrike:source with steam, but my NTFS partition is read-only. will i have to copy the files over to the linux partition?
[10:17] <SpaceMoney> kk thanks Revellion & lowman62
[10:17] <chrisbudden14> are www.ubuntuforums.org down?
[10:17] <thomas_> ich hab gessen
[10:17] <rixth> Thank you Shadyman
[10:18] <Shadyman> chrisbudden14: apparently.
[10:18] <gnomefreak> thomas_: this is an english speaking chat room for ubuntu-support please speak english or find one in your lang.
[10:18] <chrisbudden14> thanks Shadyman
[10:18] <roico> soundray: any ideas?
[10:18] <pigor> hello .. i just has tried to compile my DRI driver .. but it  does not find my sources (they are installed): "ERROR: Kernel modules did not compile [ENTER]  The DRI drivers can not be installed without the latest kernel modules.
[10:18] <pigor> Installation will be aborted. See the dri.log file for information on
[10:18] <pigor> what went wrong."
[10:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !de
[10:18] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:18] <lowman62> SpaceMoney: yw :)
[10:18] !lilo:*! and whoops, I forgot to paragraph it 8)
[10:18] <SolidBone> I hava not much Idea about networking, but if my DNS server wasnt working, I should be able to see a website if I just paste the IP like http://72.14.203.104/ shouldnt I??
[10:18] <gnomefreak> CanYouHelpMePlz: lol i wasnt sure what he was speaking for a while there :L(
[10:18] <benji_> is anyone else haveing issures with update?
[10:18] <Silencer> is there any ubuntu deb for Gstreamer 0.10
[10:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> gnomefreak: don't worry about it :-)
[10:18] <versaily> how can i add a host name to my server...
[10:18] <gnomefreak> benji_: are you getting errors?
[10:19] <Seveas> Silencer, not for breezy, won't ever be there for breezy
[10:19] <Silencer> uh
[10:19] <benji_> hey no, it just downloads fine then wont intall
[10:19] <Silencer> Well some other link for builds
[10:19] <Seveas> Silencer, only for dapper
[10:19] <versaily> like i gota server but how can i acces the file from it from any normal comp by typing in some name (example www.footest.net)
[10:19] <Silencer> dapper
[10:19] <Silencer> good
[10:19] <gnomefreak> benji_: no errors how do you know it didnt install?
[10:19] <gnomefreak> dapper bad right now :(
[10:19] <Silencer> can u tell em the link or that is in Apt-get altready need to enable it ?
[10:19] <Seveas> dapper should prett much have it already
[10:19] <B_166-ER-X> my dvd wont eject most of the time : can something here be the problem ? : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7280
[10:19] <lowman62> SolidBone: you should if the ip resolves to a www site
[10:20] <Revellion> gnomefreak: how come ?
[10:20] <Revellion> it works fine for me :)
[10:20] <Revellion> with just minor breakage
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Revellion: dapper is not stable
[10:20] <Revellion> gnomefreak: i know :)
[10:20] <soundray> roico, not really. I think the gtkpod coders are the most likely source of help.
[10:20] <roico> soundray: xsessions doesnt have any ipod-related stuf...
[10:20] <Revellion> it's still testing/development :)
[10:20] <benji_> it happens when i use the @add aplications too@
[10:20] <roico> soundray: ill mail them...
[10:20] <tim> VI LYUBITE HUI!
[10:20] <Superfiend> can someone help me wiht trying to change my screen resolution in Terminal?
[10:20] <gnomefreak> Revellion: it works fine for me most of time too but im not gonna sit here and say all is well in dapper land lol
[10:20] <roico> soundray: bye... and thanx
[10:21] <SolidBone> yeah it is soposed to do, I think the one I paste is google
[10:21] <Revellion> gnomefreak: i won't say it's all good neither
[10:21] <B_166-ER-X> can someone knows why my dvd drive wont eject (even with umount -f , it just says 'occupied')
[10:21] <Revellion> but at the current point in time it's relativly stable
[10:21] <benji_> i knew it does not install becasue it nerv notifies me of compleating them, and when i re open updats it still has them all
[10:21] <Revellion> might change tomorrow :\
[10:21] <tim> B_166-ER-X, type eject
[10:21] <SolidBone> but I can try with any one you give if u want
[10:21] <gogogog54> hello
[10:21] <gnomefreak> benji_: run sudo apt-get update than sudo apt-get dist upgrade
[10:22] <benji_> k
[10:22] <gnomefreak> benji_: what version are you on?
[10:22] <lowman62> SolidBone: this is google 64.233.167.104
[10:22] <gogogog54> how would i go about making a script for iqueing mp3 in xmms
[10:22] <benji_> 5.10
[10:22] <gnomefreak> ok ill bbl got soem work to get done
[10:23] <versaily> ok... if i install lilo boot loader instad of grub then can i still set it to default boot from windows?
[10:23] <anavim> what's the command to run bittorrent from terminal?
[10:23] <SolidBone> thanks lowman62
[10:23] <tim> ...
[10:23] <tim> bittorrent?
[10:23] <Revellion> anavim: btdownloadcurses or btdownloadheadless
[10:23] <lowman62> SolidBone: did it come up?
[10:24] <SolidBone> no it didnt
[10:24] <soundray> gogogog54, are you aware of xmms-shell?
[10:24] <Silencer> any1 know where I can get for Ubuntu gstream 0.10
[10:24] <SolidBone> I think is a problem with my ISP
[10:24] <Shadyman> SolidBone: Possible.
[10:25] <Revellion> Silencer: in 2006-04-* sure :)
[10:25] <SolidBone> cos it just stoped working
[10:25] <SolidBone> even in windows
[10:25] <gogogog54> shell?
[10:26] <trappist> anyone here use apt-build? if so, does it work for anybody?
[10:26] <anavim> Revellion: thx
[10:26] <gogogog54> i'll check it out
[10:26] <Revellion> anavim: you're welcome :)
[10:26] <soundray> gogogog54, it's a package. Install it with 'sudo apt-get install xmms-shell'. Then you can write bash or other shell scripts that control xmms.
[10:26] <NuBie> ?
[10:27] <holycow> hey guys, if i'm looking for the path of a file in / say its filename.odt ... how do i find the full path of the file ... ls -R | grep file.name returns file name of course not path ...
[10:27] <deefzi> are the winamp-presets available to download somewhere?
[10:27] <`sheep> hello
[10:27] <`sheep> how do i exit xorg on ubuntu ?
[10:27] <trappist> holycow: dirname file will give you the full path without the filename
[10:27] <dottjoint> buonasera a tutti
[10:28] <`sheep> (ctrl-alt-bs runs it again)
[10:28] <dottjoint> chi mi pu dare una mano?
[10:28] <zytrax> please any advise to change screen resolution to 1280x1024?
[10:28] <trappist> !tell zytrax about fixres
[10:29] <trappist> holycow: or, maybe not...
[10:29] <zytrax> thanks trappist
[10:29] <zytrax> I hope wiki is not down
[10:29] <holycow> trappist, heh :)
[10:30] <SolidBone> dottjoint en italiano va a sere dificille (my italian is crap..is half spanish actually)
[10:30] <soundray> `sheep, 'sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop'
[10:30] <`sheep> soundray: 10x
[10:31] <B_166-ER-X> tim nice, now after each new DVD loading i have a new Dvd-rw drive ..
[10:31] <holycow> trappist, i'm a moron, find or locate of course ...
[10:31] <B_166-ER-X> (..)
[10:31] <holycow> <-- duh!
[10:32] <versaily> ok sry about that... how do u make windows the default boot again?..i no someone already told me...
[10:32] <versaily> sry
[10:32] <trappist> holycow: well yeah... but remember if you use a relative path with find, it will return a relative path
[10:33] <holycow> *nod*
[10:33] <versaily> wasn't it sumtin like /boot/grup/l.(i forget!)
[10:33] <benji_> hey guys u know symantic, where does it put files it has downloaded but not installed?
[10:34] <versaily> */boot/grub/(i forget!)
[10:34] <Shadyman> benji_: Symantic can do that?
[10:34] <trappist> benji_: if you mean synaptic, check /var/cache/apt/archives
[10:34] <pm> anyone knows how to make my own deb package, so that it would "respect" dependencies? with checkinstall it isn't possible
[10:34] <benji_> Lol thanks guys
[10:34] <benji_> sorry
[10:34] <anavim> versaily: menu.lst
[10:34] <Shadyman> benji_: No problem! Just thought it sounded a lot like a virus scan company.. ;)
[10:34] <versaily> ok thx
[10:34] <idefix_> who is the guy Snake_ just asked if he could help idefix_?
[10:35] <MrProper_> anyone here familiar with bonding?
[10:35] <SolidBone> good bye thanks for helping
[10:35] <trappist> pm: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToBuildDebianPackagesFromScratch
[10:35] <_clem> hi, could somebody help to set my network preferences ?
[10:35] <versaily> anavcin, what exactly would i edit in that file?
[10:36] <Shadyman> _clem: Gnome, or KDE?
[10:36] <_clem> Shadyman : KDE, but I'd like to learn it the CLI way
[10:36] <versaily> anavin, what exactly would i edit in that file?*
[10:36] <anavim> versaily: you find the "default x", where x is a number decided by ubuntu previously.  you change that to the number of your windows partition listed in the file
[10:37] <versaily> ok
[10:37] <B_166-ER-X> I, cant, eject
[10:37] <B_166-ER-X> no matter how..
[10:37] <B_166-ER-X> can someone help
[10:37] <pm> trappist, many thanks :)
[10:37] <_clem> did you try sudo eject ?
[10:37] <Shadyman> B_166-ER-X: Laptop?
[10:37] <anavim> versaily: you would count starting from 0 to the windows listing, you might need to try a few times to get the number right
[10:37] <B_166-ER-X> shadyman, nope.
[10:37] <versaily> ok
[10:37] <Shadyman> B_166-ER-X: Yeah, tried sudo eject?
[10:37] <versaily> it would be 3 then
[10:38] <dalamar> what is a good alternative to gnome for a slower machine? i want some functionality still, ive tried blackbox before and thats too simple .. any suggestions?
[10:38] <B_166-ER-X> _clem  ...sudo -f umount, sudo eject...
[10:38] <anavim> versaily: and the number *will* change if you install newer kernels, etc.
[10:38] <tuxie> B_166-ER-X, sudo lsof /dev/cdroms/cdrom0
[10:38] <erUSUL> dalamar, xfce
[10:38] <versaily> 1 is ubuntu 2 is safeboot or whatever and 3 is windows and that is all
[10:38] <trappist> dalamar: wmaker
[10:38] <versaily> ok
[10:38] <anavim> versaily: no, starting from 0, not 1
[10:38] <idefix_> what is the -f option in the rm command exactly for?
[10:38] <versaily> ah
[10:38] <versaily> so then... 2....
[10:38] <trappist> idefix_: don't ask, just do it
[10:38] <anavim> versaily: yeah
[10:38] <trappist> idefix_: I mean, -f means that :)
[10:38] <erUSUL> dalamar, xfce with xubuntu ( i think sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop should work)
[10:38] <versaily> easy enough...
[10:39] <_clem> kill all processes accessing the CD
[10:39] <dalamar> is there a way for me to install these so i can just try them out before it loads them at startup?
[10:39] <_clem> and close any window on the CD
[10:39] <idefix_> but what about all that stuff ignore nonexistent files??
[10:39] <_clem> and cd away from any console reading the disc
[10:39] <_clem> and then sudo eject
[10:39] <trappist> idefix_: it also won't complain about files that don't exist
[10:39] <Sputn1k> How to change charset in gnome terminal?
[10:40] <idefix_> trappist, you mean if you deleted a file but it somehow still exists a bit?
[10:40] <_clem> so anyway, I know how to set my network.. but I don't know how to make ubuntu remember my changes....
[10:40] <_clem> for instance.. the IP address.
[10:40] <trappist> idefix_: haha no, I mean if you say "rm -f foo" and there's no such file as foo, it won't give you an error
[10:40] <B_166-ER-X> tuxie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7282
[10:40] <_clem> sudo ifconfig eth1 192.168.100.2 up
[10:41] <erUSUL> _clem, use System>Admin>Network (or edit /etc/network/interfaces directly)
[10:41] <_clem> ok
[10:41] <adub> has anyone gotten orinoco gold to work in monitor mode with kismet?????
[10:42] <B_166-ER-X> I need help to understand why i cannot eject.
[10:42] <tuxie> B_166-ER-X, ah, make that sudo lsof /dev/cdrom
[10:42] <hari`> Okay, why does ubuntu not have xorgconfig?
[10:42] <_clem> ok
[10:42] <Sputn1k> so no one knows?
[10:42] <versaily> anavin, if i put the default install on winblows... then how will i be able to boot into linux? can i hit esc??? does it give me a 3 sec timeout.... what?
[10:42] <_clem> and where do I set my default gateway ?
[10:42] <idefix_> trappist: do you know user Snake_ ?
[10:42] <trappist> no
[10:42] <hanzomon4> Enabled DMA transfer but video playback is still jerky can anyone help
[10:43] <erUSUL> hari`, it has sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:43] <trappist> hanzomon4: you're sure you enabled it on the right device, and that it was successfully enabled?
[10:43] <B_166-ER-X> tuxie http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7283
[10:43] <_clem> at the moment I type it myself... route add default gw 191.168.10.1
[10:43] <anavim> hari`: you mean xorg.conf?
[10:43] <_clem> but I'd like it to set it itself at the boot..
[10:43] <hanzomon4> I not sure
[10:43] <trappist> _clem: /etc/network/interfaces
[10:43] <hari`> No, anavim, the tool to configure that file.
[10:43] <tuxie> B_166-ER-X, and there is your answer
[10:43] <hari`> erUSUL, will check.
[10:43] <MrProper_> hari`, netcardconfig
[10:43] <_clem> trappist : do you know the syntax for the gw ?
[10:44] <B_166-ER-X> tuxie ..which is ..
[10:44] <tuxie> B_166-ER-X, gmplayer is accessing the file /media/cdrom1/get-glex-cd1.avi , that's why you can't eject
[10:44] <B_166-ER-X> uh
[10:44] <_clem> trappist : do you put the DNS in interfaces or resolv.conf ?
[10:44] <B_166-ER-X> i even rebooted X
[10:44] <B_166-ER-X> and gmplayer is still dumb enough to continue accessing
[10:44] <erUSUL> _clem, use System>Admin>Network it has a field for the gateaway
[10:44] <diplo> resolv.conf _clem
[10:44] <Xantics> disconnect
[10:44] <tuxie> B_166-ER-X, you have a zombie gmplayer then..  killall -9 gmplayer ; eject
[10:45] <trappist> _clem: man interfaces, and resolv.conf
[10:45] <_clem> ok.
[10:45] <B_166-ER-X> thankx
[10:45] <Xenguy> Hi - is anyone using Evolution in an Exchange/OutLook environment?  My pop-up appointment reminders are not working AFAICT, and just wondering if others have this problem too?
[10:45] <hari`> erUSUL, how to find the PCI id for the video card?
[10:45] <_clem> in resolv.conf a comment says that the file is automatically overwritten by some ubuntu specific stuff... resolver.. is it ?
[10:45] <trappist> hari`: lspci
[10:45] <fireonyx_> having a problem, cant search the forums :(  Trying to get suspend to memory to work...  when I do so, it goes blank, but I cant get back, do a hard boot, and x allows me to log in as normal, but natilus/etc doesnt load, just have a big brown screen and a mouse... any ideas how to get my xwindows back?
[10:45] <idefix_> kkathman?
[10:46] <trappist> tuxie: I filed a bug on apt-build
[10:46] <tuxie> trappist, great
[10:46] <tuxie> let's hope they solve it. using apt-build from dapper didn't help
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  sudo hdparm /dev/hdc gives me this :/dev/hdc:
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  IO_support   =  0 (default 16-bit)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  unmaskirq    =  0 (off)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  using_dma    =  1 (on)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  keepsettings =  0 (off)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  readonly     =  0 (off)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  readahead    = 256 (on)
[10:46] <hanzomon4>  HDIO_GETGEO failed: Invalid argument
[10:46] <versaily> ah!
[10:46] <hanzomon4> :
[10:47] <hari`> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RV280 [Radeon 9200 PRO]  (rev 01)
[10:47] <hari`> 0000:01:00.1 Display controller: ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5940 (rev 01)
[10:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell hanzomon4 about pastebin
[10:47] <MrProper_> hanzomon4, id watch pasting that many lines in future
[10:47] <hari`> trappist, is that 0:1:0 ?
[10:47] <versaily> it won't let me run any root things (ie.sudo symnaptic, dpkg)!
[10:47] <hanzomon4> Ok didn't know
[10:47] <trappist> tuxie: looks to be inherited from debian: http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=328170
[10:47] <tuxie> ubotu is speaking applescript? :)
[10:47] <ubotu> tuxie: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[10:48] <hanzomon4> what is the pastebin
[10:48] <erUSUL> !pastebin
[10:48] <anavim> tuxie: he does?
[10:48] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:48] <hari`> trappist, do my lines above translate to "PCI:0:1:0" or what?
[10:48] <prodigy60> heh, sure you all are gonna hate me for this but i was wondering if theres anyone around that wouldnt mind helpin me out with setting up my wifi with ndiswrapper.... i've followed every doc i can find and it still wont work :(
[10:48] <anavim> tell application "ubotu" to display dialog "hello"  -- oh, sorry  ;)
[10:48] <hanzomon4> thanks
[10:48] <Rubin> i compiled vlc from deb-src and it crashes
[10:49] <anavim> dangit, I'm so gullible
[10:50] <tuxie> "tell hanzomon4 about pastebin" looks like applescript :)
[10:50] <Shadyman> Any way to import Song Ratings, Plays, Last Played data from Rhythmbox to Banshee?
[10:50] <trappist> hari`: sorry, you probably want the 2nd column of /proc/bus/pci/devices, where the first 4 characters is the vendor id and the last 4 is the device id
[10:50] <versaily> how can i change the user permissions?
[10:50] <lowman62_away> .
[10:50] <ann> hello ya qq ?
[10:50] <trappist> versaily: user permissions for what
[10:50] <prodigy60> ::cough:: man chmod =)
[10:50] <anavim> versaily: to do what?  for editing the menu.lst file?
[10:50] <GeorgeAScott> hello
[10:51] <ann> houhou
[10:51] <ann> .
[10:51] <GeorgeAScott> f1.5 keeps crashing on me... i'd go check a forum, but it won't let me get that far
[10:51] <GeorgeAScott> f1.5= oops... ff1.5
[10:51] <versaily> trappist, anavin, well to do anything root related like run symnaptic run the lgin manager ect...
[10:51] <Shadyman> ubotu: tell GeorgeAScott about firefox15
[10:52] <versaily> i wanna do it gui based to command line is to confusing for me...
[10:52] <Shadyman> GeorgeAScott: er, not quite the command i was looking for.
[10:52] <prodigy60> anyone here have any experience with ndiswrapper at all?
[10:52] <Shadyman> prodigy60: A bit.,
[10:52] <ann> not me sorry
[10:52] <hari`> trappist, I see aptgart but no 'ati' or 'radeon' in /proc/whatever
[10:52] <versaily> so if i can allow my user all privilages then i can do that stuff...
[10:52] <prodigy60> heh, been messin with it for bout 2 days now, cant get it working no matter what i've tried :(
[10:53] <GeorgeAScott> shadyman, yeah, thanks, i did that... and i'd go to the link but it just crashes
[10:53] <anavim> versaily: that sounds dangerous
[10:53] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[10:53] <funkyHat> versaily, doesn't clicking on the buttons in the system > administration button work?
[10:53] <Shadyman> GeorgeAScott: I dunno what to do after that, it's not officially supported yet.
[10:53] <funkyHat> *menu
[10:53] <versaily> funkyHat, nope
[10:53] <DShepherd> is there any easy way to hide the icons on your desktop?
[10:54] <funkyHat> versaily, which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:54] <GeorgeAScott> shadyman, i upgraded to ff1.5 because the one that came with brezzy did the same thing
[10:54] <versaily> funkyHAt, 5.10 brnad new install today
[10:54] <Shadyman> GeorgeAScott: Guh.
[10:54] <MrPockets> how do you see how much space is left on a hDA?
[10:54] <funkyHat> versaily, did you select the 'expert' install mode?
[10:54] <DShepherd> MrPockets: df
[10:54] <versaily> no...:(
[10:54] <prodigy60> gah, beginning to think i should've stuck with gentoo. good luck you all...
[10:54] <tuxie> trappist: after upgrading to apt-build 0.12.17 (dapper) it might work after all, I get a different error: Unable to find source information for bzip2 at /usr/bin/apt-build line 477.
[10:54] <versaily> didn't no there was such a thing....
[10:55] <MrPockets> df -h?
[10:55] <funkyHat> versaily, don't worry, that was one of the things that could have caused a problem, you didn't need to do that :)
[10:55] <funkyHat> versaily, does sudo at the command line work then?
[10:55] <DShepherd> MrPockets: yeah thats kool too
[10:55] <MrPockets> thanks
[10:55] <trappist> tuxie: yeah 0.12.17 is the fix, according to the debian bugzilla.  I think there's a separate bug for the bzip2 error
[10:55] <DShepherd> MrPockets: np
[10:55] <versaily> funkyHat, nope
[10:55] <DShepherd> is there any easy way to hide the icons on your desktop?
[10:55] <versaily> funkyHat, su does though
[10:56] <funkyHat> versaily, ok, looks like you have the same issue then, don't worry it's easy to fix
[10:56] <funkyHat> versaily, su -
[10:56] <funkyHat> versaily, and then run visudo
[10:56] <tuxie> trappist: I used bzip2 as an example (apt-build install bzip2) ... i get the same error on any package
[10:56] <versaily> funkyHat, good! thx so much
[10:56] <trappist> tuxie: where did you get that version
[10:56] <GeorgeAScott> geez, now it won't even let me start ff... automatically comes up with the send error report form
[10:56] <versaily> k done
[10:56] <deefzi> is it possible to change the font of xmms' menus? it's so big and awful
[10:56] <idefix_> so what is this -r option for in the rm command?
[10:56] <tuxie> trappist: change breezy to dapper on the deb-src lines in /etc/apt/sources.list and apt-src -i install apt-build
[10:57] <versaily> funkyHat, done
[10:57] <Shadyman> GeorgeAScott: Icky. Try reinstalling?
[10:57] <funkyHat> versaily, that should open up your /etc/sudoers file, what you need to do is go to the bottom and copy the line for root
[10:57] <GeorgeAScott> ff or ubuntu
[10:57] <funkyHat> versaily, paste it as a new line underneath, and change root to your username
[10:57] <versaily> funkyHAt, ok
[10:57] <Shadyman> GeorgeAScott: ff
[10:57] <versaily> funkyHAt, then paste as a line for my new user?
[10:57] <funkyHat> versaily, yep yep
[10:58] <Silencer> any1 know where I can get for Ubuntu gstream 0.10
[10:58] <funkyHat> versaily, ohh, you created a new user and wanted them to have sudo rights too?
[10:58] <versaily> funkyHat, ok.. how do i ext then...
[10:58] <versaily> funkyHAt, no just my original one
[10:58] <mac_> is it just me or has ubuntuforums.org been down for a few days now?
[10:58] <Shadyman> mac_: It was up yesterday.
[10:58] <funkyHat> versaily, ah ok, cool, to exit, ctrl+X
[10:59] <hermatize> hello
[10:59] <mac_> Shadowline, is it currently down? (or do I have a connectivity/dns issue?)
[10:59] <_jason> DShepherd: yeah, gconf (system tools config editor).  Try /apps/nautilus/preferences/show_desktop
[10:59] <hermatize> what kind of package management does ubuntu use
[11:00] <_jason> hermatize: deb
[11:00] <hermatize> can i add extra repos
[11:00] <hermatize> like atrpms
[11:00] <hermatize> an dries
[11:00] <anavim> idefix_: rm -r is a recursive delete - both files and folders
[11:00] <_jason> hermatize: not recommended
[11:00] <_jason> hermatize: but I don't even know what those are
[11:01] <j2daosh> ok... im about to try and learn apache... but i cant seem to manage to get it installed... i think i installed it wrong the first time because all the instructions i found on google and various other sights were having me do other things that i didn't do... i installed a bunch of crap from the synaptic manager... the instructions were telling me about tarbells and all that jive...
[11:01] <j2daosh> lol so yeah... i need some help
[11:01] <_jason> hermatize: the supported repos have thousands of apps, you'll rarely need to go outside of them
[11:01] <hermatize> you know were there are instructions are on doing this
[11:01] <hermatize> like net-snmp
[11:01] <hermatize> stuff like that?
[11:01] <hermatize> newer packages
[11:01] <hermatize> ?
[11:01] <_jason> !enter
[11:01] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:02] <_jason> hermatize: on doing what?
[11:02] <hermatize> like rrdtool
[11:02] <hermatize> im looking to install from apt
[11:02] <hermatize> if its the newer one
[11:02] <agiofws> has anyone installed ubuntu server ?
[11:02] <hermatize> im installikng cacti
[11:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell hermatize about enter
[11:02] <hermatize> so i need all the dependencies
[11:03] <hermatize> i didnt hit enter
[11:03] <Agiofws> has anyone installed ubuntu with server option server ?
[11:03] <Agiofws> has anyone installed ubuntu with server option ?
[11:03] <hermatize> im about to
[11:03] <_jason> hermatize: please don't use the enter key as punctuation
[11:03] <Keyseir> is there an emulator that allows you to run macintosh software on linux? Like Wine does for windows?
[11:03] <_jason> !info cacti
[11:03] <ubotu> cacti: (Frontend to rrdtool for monitoring systems and services), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.6f-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3076 kB
[11:03] <hermatize> i didnt
[11:03] <Agiofws> q
[11:03] <hermatize> well i would install cacti from source
[11:04] <hermatize> !info rrdtool
[11:04] <j2daosh> anyone? apache help?
[11:04] <ubotu> rrdtool: (Time-series data storage and display system (programs)), section universe/utils, is extra. Version: 1.2.11-0.3 (breezy), Packaged size: 471 kB, Installed size: 1040 kB
[11:04] <hermatize> o niiice
[11:04] <hermatize> its a newer one
[11:04] <hermatize> cool beans
[11:04] <wdh> j2daosh, dont ask to ask.. just ask
[11:04] <PCline> whats the offcial ubuntu page ?
[11:04] <_jason> hermatize: you can search the repos at packages.ubuntu.com
[11:04] <hermatize> so that repo is stock in ubuntu
[11:04] <wdh> PCline, read the topic
[11:04] <j2daosh> wdh, i did ask... no one answered me
[11:04] <hermatize> just run apt-get install rrdtool
[11:04] <trappist> j2daosh: can you describe your problem in a more specific way?
[11:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell hermatize about repos
[11:05] <j2daosh> ok... im about to try and learn apache... but i cant seem to manage to get it installed... i think i installed it wrong the first time because all the instructions i found on google and various other sights were having me do other things that i didn't do... i installed a bunch of crap from the synaptic manager... the instructions were telling me about tarbells and all that jive...
[11:05] <tuxie> Keyseir, yes, maconlinux if you have a g3 or g4 (not g5) and panther (not tiger)
[11:05] <trappist> gah.
[11:05] <_jason> hermatize: ubotu sent you a link where you can read about it
[11:05] <Keyseir> If I Have? Have to have the software for the OS?
[11:05] <wdh> j2daosh, thats an easy one.. System - administration - synaptic
[11:05] <mwe> j2daosh: sudo apt-get install apache2 will do
[11:05] <SerajewelKS> on the k?ubuntu livecds, is there a simple method to disable one of the services?  particularly the Enterprise Somethingorother Volume Manager.. is this service necessary, and if not how can i keep it from starting on the livecd?
[11:05] <j2daosh> so i either need to uninstall all the different apache stuff/mysql/php stuff i installed through synaptic or i need some help getting it to work
[11:05] <wdh> j2daosh, and then look for apache :)
[11:05] <YukiTheSnowPrinc> Hi anybody know how to mount ubuntu linux to MS Windows XP? BTW I'm dual booting. Cuz I need to access my linux files tru MS windows xp I already know how to mount windows NTFS partitions on a linux system but I dont know to mount Linux on my MS windows xp :( Please Help
[11:06] <tuskernini> hi there all, are there any experts with smb printing?
[11:06] <tuxie> Keyseir, you need a osx 10.3 install cd
[11:06] <Agiofws> i installed ubuntu server but there is not even the ssh command or not even the lynx or links command  how can i  install packages on server edition ?
[11:06] <tuxie> Keyseir, it will run in a window, vmware-style
[11:06] <trappist> j2daosh: using synaptic is the 'right' way to install apache (and most everything else).  if it doesn't work, we need to know details before we can help.
[11:06] <Shadyman> Is there a way to make the keys assigned to gnome's Keyboard Shortcuts - Volume up/down change the Headphone volume, or PCM volume?
[11:06] <Keyseir> tuxie, OK. Thx
[11:06] <wdh> j2daosh, "sudo apt-get install apache" will also get the job done
[11:06] <mwe> YukiTheSnowPrinc: you can't directly but there are some tools out there. ask google
[11:06] <_jason> Agiofws: apt-get
[11:06] <erUSUL> YukiTheSnowPrinc, not possible is the short answer
[11:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell Agiofws about ssh
[11:06] <wdh> Agiofws, and http://help.ubuntu.com
[11:07] <Keyseir> tuxie, are you familiar with setting things up with vmware player? I'm have a couple questions.
[11:07] <PCline> how does ubuntu install  packages .. same as debian ?
[11:07] <tuxie> Keyseir, http://maconlinux.org
[11:07] <Shadyman> PCline: Apt-get
[11:07] <tuxie> Keyseir, nope, vmware player isn't available for ppc
[11:07] <YukiTheSnowPrinc> I C
[11:07] <_jason> PCline: apt-get/synaptic, it uses .deb's
[11:07] <PCline> Shadyman right i know that laready
[11:07] <DShepherd> _jason: thanks
[11:07] <Agiofws> wdh: _jason  no browser ...... apt-get install ssh ?
[11:07] <Keyseir> tuxie, I know it's something different. I just wanted to know if YOU knew about it.
[11:07] <SerajewelKS> is it even possible to disable services when booting from a livecd?
[11:07] <j2daosh> yeah i know about synaptic and the apt-get... but the instructions i got were to go to the various sites for the most current apache and mysql and blah blah and to install from the tarbell i dled... i did that but then its telling me to install to the /usr/local/whatever the program directory
[11:08] <j2daosh> when i installed them from synaptic before i dled the tarbell it didn't put them there and i cant find them
[11:08] <PCline> well the repos by default are same good as the debian ones ? example fedora have such a shit repos i cannot install a mail server using apt . and a lot more packages ...
[11:08] <mwe> YukiTheSnowPrinc: there freeware tools that let you see your ext partitions in windows
[11:08] <j2daosh> and the .sh scripts i find aren't running for me...
[11:08] <wdh> Agiofws, sudo apt-get install openssh-client
[11:08] <_jason> Agiofws: apt-get install openssh-server, if you just want the server
[11:09] <j2daosh> id be happy with just geting mysql and php off and just getting apache working at the moment but im afraid i installed way too much crap through synaptic and now i dont know what is dependant upon what
[11:09] <[dalamar] > how do i install xfce or run it after i have installed it with synaptic? i dont see an option in the menus
[11:09] <Agiofws> _jason:  only the  client i want
[11:09] <adub> has anyone gotten orinoco gold to work in monitor mode with kismet?????
[11:09] <tuxie> [dalamar] , add startxfce to your .xinitrc
[11:09] <PCline> where do i get ubuntu from ? its not on the main poage ?
[11:09] <wdh> j2daosh, you dont need to know that.. install the "apache" package.. apt figures out dependencies..
[11:09] <trojaavr> How can I add 1280x1024 to my screen-resolution? I need to switch it to that, it's currently at 1024x768.
[11:10] <mwe> !tell trojaavr about fixres
[11:10] <wdh> j2daosh, after that, point your webbrowser to http://localhost and it should work :)
[11:10] <[dalamar] > hm okay
[11:10] <DShepherd> [dalamar] : try logging out and choose xfce as your Window manger before you login
[11:10] <bimberi> YukiTheSnowPrinc: http://ext2fsd.sourceforge.net/
[11:10] <trojaavr> mwe: thanks.
[11:10] <versaily> when editing file
[11:10] <_jason> Agiofws: openssh-client then
[11:10] <j2daosh> really...
[11:10] <j2daosh> lemme give that a look
[11:10] <mike_> !easysource
[11:10] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:10] <zytrax> please I need the link to fix resolution once again
[11:10] <tuxie> PCline, there is a "Download" link at the right....
[11:10] <PCline> can anyone please tell from where to get the latesd ubuntu iso cds ?
[11:11] <DShepherd> PCline: ubuntu website
[11:11] <trojaavr> Ah, I didn't know the video-resolution was the screen-resolution, I had looked earlier but didn't know that was it, thanks.
[11:11] <mwe> !tell zytrax about fixres
[11:11] <Agiofws> _jason:  another thing how do i get more gettys  running  ctrl+alt f2-5  does not give me any terminal  how do i fix this ?
[11:11] <j2daosh> oh snap
[11:11] <_jason> Agiofws: I don't know about that
[11:11] <tuxie> PCline, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/download
[11:11] <Shadyman> j2daosh: Hahaha I've been waiting to hear someone say that for a while now.
[11:11] <versaily> hey... i have a question... the first command wen booting linux is expanding the kernel is the linux kernel acually compacted on the hd?
[11:12] <PCline> tuxie found it cheers
[11:12] <deefzi> where can those desktop-icons can be resized?
[11:12] <versaily> well it isn't expanding the kernel but sumint like that
[11:12] <j2daosh> that kicks @ss... ok... so i just though html pages in there and they will load or will it look like it does now with the parent directories and blah blah?
[11:12] <wdh> j2daosh, yes.. /var/www iirc
[11:12] <anavim> Agiofws: those are spawned by /etc/inittab at system startup
[11:12] <bimberi> versaily: yes that's right
[11:12] <j2daosh> lol Shadyman i might only be 23 but im thrid generation old school lol
[11:13] <j2daosh> iirc?
[11:13] <PCline> tuxie  only one cd ?
[11:13] <[dalamar] > cool got in running
[11:13] <[dalamar] > it
[11:13] <DShepherd> PCline: sure.
[11:13] <Agiofws> anavim:  how do i activate them ?
[11:13] <wdh> Agiofws, does your keyboard have an F-lock key?
[11:13] <[olli] > why doesn't this work: sudo "for i in 1 2 3 ; do echo $i ; done" -- any ideas?
[11:13] <Agiofws> no
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y10/bluefoxicy/gnome-flipoff.png  After all that work, my CPU told me off
[11:13] <bluefoxicy> (I had to screenshot it)
[11:13] <anavim> Agiofws: they should be running already. did you do anything to your system?
[11:14] <Agiofws> its an ubuntu server installation
[11:14] <idefix_> anavim: so if the thing you wanted to delete is a file it'll delete and if it is a directory it'll too ?
[11:14] <wdh> [olli] , it does work
[11:14] <Agiofws> they are not running
[11:14] <timfrost> [dalamar] , you can choose between xfce and gnome at the login screen (click on "Session" to get a list of available sessions )
[11:14] <wdh> just forget about the sudo :P
[11:14] <tuxie> PCline, additional software is installed over the intarweb
[11:14] <tsaberi> I have a fresh 5.10 install. The desktop resolution won't go past 1024x768. Is tehre a way to reconfigure X ?
[11:14] <Antara> hola
[11:14] <Antara> alguien habla espaol
[11:14] <_jason> [olli] : sudo -s
[11:14] <anavim> idefix_: it will delete files and folders, and folders in those folders...
[11:14] <bimberi> ubotu tell tsaberi about resolution
[11:14] <PCline> tuxie yeah . i was just going to ask if there if also a net install cd .
[11:14] <Agiofws> ?
[11:14] <_jason> [olli] : that will give you a root shell you can use to do that
[11:14] <wdh> tsaberi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[11:15] <PCline> tuxie but there is no need . if there`s only one cd that i have to download
[11:15] <tsaberi> thanks guys
[11:15] <wdh> ubotu tell wdh about resolution
[11:15] <_jason> [olli] : or just put sudo next to the echo in your loop, so 'do sudo echo $o'
[11:15] <ortner> hmm, whats the command for moving a file/folder
[11:15] <bimberi> ortner: mv
[11:15] <anavim> Agiofws: if you type "ps aux | grep getty", do you get multiple getty processes?
[11:15] <mwe> [olli] : that works here. prints 1 2 3 on seperate lines
[11:15] <PCline> tuxie does ubuntu support 0000:00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corp. 82915G Express Chipset Family Graphics Controller (rev 04
[11:16] <Agiofws> wait i have to quit irssi and un-chroot
[11:16] <Agiofws> :P
[11:16] <Agiofws> to tell you
[11:16] <PCline> tuxie  so its i810 dirver
[11:16] <Agiofws> anavim:  how do i get more geety proccesses?
[11:16] <j2daosh> ok... whoever it was that told me to put my .html's in the /var/www iirc folder... what the hell is iirc?
[11:16] <tuxie> PCline, I have no idea but afaik the intel chipsets are well supported
[11:16] <bimberi> PCline: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[11:16] <ortner> how do i remove a file?
[11:16] <bimberi> ortner: rm
[11:17] !lilo:*! hi all.... channel announcement: for Gentoo support in Russian, stop by #gentoo-ru .... thanks!
[11:17] <j2daosh> and do i have to to anything special to the files or just through them there and they will automatically be displayed instead of the partent folder layout
[11:17] <pc__> hi, does anyone here know how to switch virtual consoles on a mac?
[11:17] <pc__> i've tried pretty much every key combination i could think of
[11:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell ortner about cli
[11:17] <[olli] > _jason: no, doesn't work here. do you have a example for me
[11:18] <trojaavr> Can anyone tell me how to add a Terminal option to right clicking on the desktop?
[11:18] <anavim> Agiofws: there are getty spawn commands in the /etc/inittab file, if indeed you only have one
[11:18] <tuxie> pc__, same as pecee
[11:18] <_jason> [olli] : for i in 1 2 3; do sudo echo $i ; done
[11:18] <pc__> tuxie: does'nt work for me... i happen to have done it once, no idea how though
[11:18] <tuxie> ctrl+alt+f# in X, alt+f# in console mode
[11:18] <mwe> or  sudo su -c 'for i in 1 2 3; do echo $i; done'
[11:18] <bimberi> trojaavr: install nautilus-open-terminal
[11:18] <[olli] > _jason: okie, that works. thanks alot
[11:19] <webservertg> hola buenas noches
[11:19] <j2daosh> nautilus open terminal? lol bim... why haven't you ever told me about that? i thought we were friends?!
[11:19] <pc__> tuxie: i know my way around linux on a i386. on a ppc i'm totally new..
[11:19] <mwe> !es
[11:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:19] <webservertg> hola obuntu
[11:19] <tuxie> pc__, works for me on ppc, mac keyboard..  have you edited your xorg.conf?
[11:20] <pc__> tuxie: i'm installing
[11:20] <bshumate> j2daosh: iirc == if i recall correctly ... someone was advising you from memory, hence the iirc acronym.  yes, place html files in /var/www/ and they will be accessible through apache/apache2, for example if you place the file "foo.html" into /var/www it should be accssible as http://your_server_address/foo.html
[11:20] <moodog> evening all
[11:20] <bimberi> j2daosh: gawd i'm so sorry :`(
[11:20] <tuxie> the default configuration works
[11:20] <tuxie> pc__, I don't think there are any additional consoles during install
[11:20] <j2daosh> lol its ok bim... dont let it happen again though lol
[11:20] <bimberi> j2daosh: ;P
[11:20] <webservertg> hello
[11:21] <pc__> tuxie: ofcourse there are. they are great to do some additional stuff while installing
[11:21] <webservertg> i have help please!!!
[11:21] <pc__> tuxie: try it sometime ;)
[11:21] <mwe> !helpme
[11:21] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:21] <j2daosh> ok... when i was screwing around at work trying o figure it out... i came across something somewhere in one of the files about needing to bind an address... anyone know what thats all about?
[11:21] <webservertg> I not speeak English
[11:21] <_jason> webservertg: what do you speak?
[11:22] <webservertg> Spanish
[11:22] <salimkerroumi> bonsoir
[11:22] <tuxie> pc__, during the first installer you can use alt+f2 to get a console, but on the first-boot install there isn't one until you get to the login prompt
[11:22] <trappist> webservertg: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:22] <_jason> !es
[11:22] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:22] <webservertg> thanks Jason
[11:22] <j2daosh> ish sprecin ze deutche?
[11:22] <j2daosh> lol i know that aint right but yeah... think phonetically
[11:22] <webservertg> and you speeak spanish Jason?
[11:22] <pc__> tuxie: i got one here.. colony 3. a no-need-to-login console on (i think) f2
[11:22] <salimkerroumi> eeeee
[11:23] <tuxie> pc__, believe me, I had to make MAJOR hacks to install ubuntu on my powermac g5 because the installer couldn't read the partition tables on the internal sata disks...
[11:23] <webservertg> thanks trappis
[11:23] <hydroksyde_work> If I compile some modem drivers (non-apt), they will break when the kernel is upgraded, right?
[11:23] <j2daosh> anyway... backto binding... and setting up my router... im assuming ill need to open port 80... unless there is a setting somewhere i can change that... and if so... how do i redirect through the router?
[11:23] <erUSUL> hydroksyde_work, yes
[11:23] <pc__> tuxie: hmm well now you mention it. i read the dapper ppc images were far from stable atm
[11:23] <pc__> tuxie:  i guess i should try later
[11:23] <webservertg> #ubuntu-es
[11:24] <mwe> hydroksyde_work: then you'll have to recompile it
[11:24] <hydroksyde_work> I would
[11:24] <erUSUL> hydroksyde_work, you have to compile them again, against the new kernel (headers)
[11:24] <hydroksyde_work> but this is a machine for someone else
[11:24] <tuxie> pc__, dapper fails to boot on ppc
[11:24] <pc__> tuxie: it really just booted here...
[11:24] <Dreamglider> the Ubuntu server install, is it just like being in terminal all the time ?
[11:24] <dotchad> anyone knows how to make a hexagon in GIMP with a pre-defined form?
[11:24] <PCline> is there any mail server by default in ubuntu ?
[11:24] <tuxie> pc__, ok, it doesn't boot after a dist-upgrade from breezy anyway :)
[11:24] <pc__> tuxie: ow hey guess what, alt arrow left,right allows me to switch v/c's! :)
[11:24] <pc__> aah
[11:24] <PCline> or whats the basic mail server for ubuntu ?
[11:25] <mwe> Dreamglider: well you can install X on a server if you want to
[11:25] <hydroksyde_work> Dreamglider, teah
[11:25] <hydroksyde_work> Dreamglider, it's the base install only
[11:25] <dell500> anyone here know why the ipod mounts read only? i've got permissions and everything.... fstab entry has rw in it too...
[11:25] <tuxie> pc__, what mac are you using?
[11:25] <pc__> tuxie: ibook 1ghz
[11:25] <matthewjames> what is the command to run somthing from desktop? cd somthing?
[11:25] <pc__> tuxie: did breezy work alright for you?
[11:25] <pc__> matthewjames: alt-f2 ?
[11:25] <hydroksyde_work> matthewjames, "cd Desktop"?
[11:25] <magicjj> hey anybody here?
[11:25] <matthewjames> no, in terminal
[11:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell matthewjames about cli
[11:25] <tuxie> pc__, once I got it installed it works fine
[11:26] <magicjj> i have a pretty screwed up problem comp now lol
[11:26] <hydroksyde_work> matthewjames, "cd ~/Desktop"
[11:26] <timfrost> PCline, by default, breezy doesn't install anything.  postfix is in main, and sendmail is in universe
[11:26] <pc__> tuxie: i'll miss my airport and sleep functionality i guess but i just have to try :)
[11:26] <magicjj> hey i'll wait for a little
[11:26] <magicjj> if anybody is willing to help me please message for me
[11:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell magicjj about ask
[11:26] <magicjj> pardon?
[11:27] <hydroksyde_work> magicjj, just ask
[11:27] <magicjj> lol k
[11:27] <DShepherd> magicjj: duh] 
[11:27] <Cythril> What Ubuntu program can handle zips and rars?
[11:27] <vodnik> How do the launchers work? (i.e. how are they different from commands issued from command line)?
[11:27] <pc__> Cythril: zips are handled, unrar for rars
[11:27] <anavim> Cythril: unzip, unrar
[11:27] <_jason> Cythril: zip and rar, respectively?
[11:27] <PCline> anyone running Hula in ubuntu ?
[11:27] <mwe> Hula?
[11:28] <bimberi> Cythril: the Archive Manager can, but for rar you need ...
[11:28] <bimberi> !rar
[11:28] <ubotu> somebody said rar was a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[11:28] <tuxie> pc__, during install I had to go to a console, manually create a /dev/md0 using mdadm, then tell the partitioner to setup raid and save without changing anything. Then I reached a raid partition the installer could find and install on :)
[11:28] <magicjj> i created a partition for linux on my comp, and installed ubuntu but there was something wrong with the xserver, so i was going to just start over, so i start in windows and i deleted the partitions and put all the space on my C:/, but now when i start up it tries to load the GRUB interface and it gives me an error and i cant do anything on my computer
[11:28] <DShepherd> Cythril: sudo aptitude install unrar unzip (they are command line based as far as I know
[11:28] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[11:29] <mwe> !helpme
[11:29] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:29] <pc__> tuxie: that's pretty weird. you documented that or filed a bug?
[11:29] <DShepherd> mwe: do you speak english?
[11:29] <magicjj> any clues with my problem?
[11:30] <mwe> DShepherd: um yes
[11:30] <pc__> tuxie: i've got 49710 days and some hours remaining until packages are copied... i'll probably stick to OSX in the end
[11:30] <DShepherd> mwe: do you have a question to be answered?
[11:30] <_jason> magicjj: so you are trying to restore windows?
[11:30] <tuxie> pc__, after installing all packages I umounted /target, created a non-raid filesystem to use as root partition, mount it as /target, mount /dev/md0 as /target/.raid and move everything from there to the real partition :P  and edit /etc/mtab and some other things to fool the installer :P
[11:30] <mwe> DShepherd: no
[11:30] <mwe> DShepherd: the !helpme triggers ubotu
[11:30] <magicjj> i need a way to bypass the GRUB interface
[11:30] <mwe> DShepherd: watch
[11:30] <magicjj> right now its loading it by default
[11:30] <mwe> !helpme
[11:30] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[11:31] <boogie> my four different windows on the bottom of my page are missing, how do i find them
[11:31] <mwe> DShepherd: did you see that?
[11:31] <vodnik> magicjj: which error (which number?) go to grub homepage/dpocuimentation and see what it stands for
[11:31] <magicjj> i get error 22
[11:31] <DShepherd> mwe thank you for the demo. dont do that again.. if you dont need to
[11:31] <pc__> boogie: right mouse button, add applet (or something) then the workspace *something* thingie :)
[11:31] <magicjj> i dont have GRUB anymore, i deleted my swap and linux partitions, but i forgot to take grub off of my master boot
[11:32] <Dreamglider> i need a good x window manager for ubuntu anyone know a page with screenshots off diffrent window amangers ?
[11:32] <magicjj> so it loads that instead of windows
[11:32] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can anyone tell me if gnome-look.org is asking for a password for them?
[11:32] <timfrost> magicjj, you probably need to boot your windows CD, then run fdisk/mbr
[11:32] <anavim> CanYouHelpMePlz: yes
[11:32] <magicjj> i have an emachines (yes they suck)
[11:32] <bimberi> CanYouHelpMePlz: it does for me
[11:32] <erUSUL> timfrost, magicjj is better to use fixmbr
[11:33] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm thats weird...
[11:33] <vodnik> magicjj - what about this: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=grub+howto
[11:33] <mwe> !grub
[11:33] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[11:34] <port7> where in breezy is vnc enabled (text file not in the GUI)?
[11:34] <magicjj> when i'm trying to reinstall GRUB using my ubuntu CD, it won't mess with my hard drive will it?
[11:35] <ortner> is it zxvf for unpacking a file?
[11:35] <timfrost> erUSUL, is that a windows tool? remember that he has wiped Ubuntu off his disk
[11:35] <pc__> for unpacking a tar gz
[11:35] <mwe> port7: I haven't used it in ubuntu but I believe you have to edit the config files
[11:35] <magicjj> vodnik i read that page, using that method wont make any changes to my hard drive will it?
[11:35] <port7> mwe: do you know what files?
[11:35] <erUSUL> timfrost, yes in the instalation cd
[11:35] <vodnik> magicijj:"4. Mount your appropriate linux partions
[11:35] <vodnik> //bootswap.....
[11:35] <vodnik> 5. DO NOT FORMAT THEM."
[11:36] <Cythril> When I type sudo aptitude install unrar it says:
[11:36] <Cythril> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[11:36] <Cythril> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[11:36] <boogie_> i'm sorry but i'm lost here...i right clicked, and hit the workspaces and my page dissappeared
[11:36] <magicjj> okay
[11:36] <magicjj> i'll try it
[11:36] <neville> hi, i have problems to install lilypond using apt. i can neither install nor remove package.
[11:36] <bimberi> Cythril: close synaptic
[11:36] <Cythril> Ah, ehe.
[11:36] <boogie_> do you know what i'm talking about
[11:36] <magicjj> if something screws up i'll let you know lol
[11:36] <magicjj> thanks
[11:36] <Cythril> Nice one.
[11:36] <tuxie> boot a random rescue cd, mount the partition, chroot to it and run grub-install ... should be as simple as that
[11:36] <bimberi> Cythril: :)
[11:36] <mwe> port7: you'll have to read the documentation, sorry. even if I told you what files you wouldn't know what to put in there if you didn't read the docs
[11:36] <port7> mwe: np
[11:37] <vodnik> you should choose something like "keep existing data" - however, if you deleted your ext3 partitions already and do not have any valuable data there, I would recommend what timfrost suggested
[11:37] <syuusuke> question, how do I install KDE without installing Kubuntu distro?
[11:37] <j2daosh> ok... i moved a webfolder to my www directory but it still shows the parent directoy thing... how do i make the first thing people see is an html page?not the parent directory and then have to click the webfolder?
[11:37] <ateves> hi! i have the newest ubuntu with the XFCE desktop, but the menu font in firefox 1.5 is way to big. how can i fix that?
[11:37] <DeadEnd> hi new to linux ive just installed ubuntu and checked all upgrades, is asking if I want to download linux restricte module and image,what is a restricted module
[11:38] <Cythril> Any reason an unrar command would be unable to extract?  Every file in the archive fails to extract.
[11:38] <bshumate> j2daosh: index.html perhaps ?
[11:38] <_jason> Cythril: did you install free or nonfree?
[11:38] <Cythril> Both, I think.
[11:38] <Cythril> I typed sudo aptitude install unrar and sudo aptitude install unrar-nonfree
[11:38] <_jason> Cythril: well free won't extract rar 3.0 (most of them)
[11:38] <j2daosh> but i would have to type that into my browser...i want it to show up automatically
[11:38] <nalioth_zZz> Cythril: are you using unrar-nonfree ?
[11:38] <deefzi> my ubuntu is lacking "setlocale" :o
[11:39] <Cythril> Ah, okay, I need to type unrar-nonfree [DIRECTORY]  then?
[11:39] <boogie_> does anybody know how to retrieve the four boxed windows on the bottom of the screen?
[11:39] <_jason> Cythril: remove unrar-free and install unrar-nonfree
[11:39] <Cythril> Alright, er, how do I remove unrar-free
[11:39] <bimberi> DeadEnd: they are kernel modules with nonfree licensing (eg. drivers or nvidia & ati cards)
[11:39] <syuusuke> retrieve?
[11:39] <_jason> Cythril: apt-get remove unrar-free
[11:39] <gnudreamer> hey all i crashed ubuntu again installing video packages from synaptic...now I cant get synaptic to start to uninstall the ones that might be interfering..im in safe mode now
[11:40] <syuusuke> or you mean add the 4 windows back to the menu bar?
[11:40] <anavim> boogie_: they're called virtual desktops
[11:40] <Cythril> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[11:40] <Cythril> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[11:40] <Cythril>    What does that mean?
[11:40] <boogie_> mine are gone
[11:40] <anavim> boogie_: rightclick on your toolbar and add them again
[11:40] <bimberi> Cythril: did you use sudo?
[11:40] <mwe> Cythril: use sudo
[11:40] <PCline> does ubuntu support kde too right ?
[11:40] <syuusuke> yeap right click
[11:40] <boogie_> i've tried to reboot
[11:40] <PCline>  It includes the latest kernel, X, Gnome and other key applications
[11:40] <mwe> PCline: right
[11:40] <bimberi> PCline: yes
[11:40] <DIguana> I'm having trouble killing some processes. I've tried both killall <executable name> and kill -9 <pid> but the processes are still there. Any ideas?
[11:40] <PCline> it only says about gnome
[11:40] <PCline> ok
[11:40] <garfield> hello can anyboy help me configurin my audio in unbuto
[11:41] <bimberi> ubotu tell PCline about kubuntu
[11:41] <boogie_> toolbar up top?
[11:41] <mwe> PCline: read about kubuntu
[11:41] <PCline> bimberi  ubuntu its base debian isnt it ?
[11:41] <boogie_> i have no toolbar!
[11:41] <syuusuke> bottom bar boogie
[11:41] <bimberi> PCline: yep
[11:41] <anavim> boogie_: you can't delete all of your toolbars
[11:41] <mwe> PCline: gnome is default in ubuntu kde is in kubuntu. base system i identical
[11:41] <syuusuke> or whereever you want
[11:41] <bimberi> !debian
[11:41] <ubotu> Debian is "the rock upon which Ubuntu is founded"; see http://www.debian.org Thank You Ian and DEBra Murdock! 1994 Vers. 0.9.  Debian and Ubuntu http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/
[11:41] <anavim> boogie_: beyond that I don't remember, since I'm using fluxbox
[11:41] <gnudreamer> !help
[11:41] <[dalamar] > is there anyway to get xfce to automount dvds and play them with a certain program like gnome can?
[11:42] <syuusuke> boogie_: right click on an empty space on the tool bar and click on "add to panel"
[11:42] <DIguana> PCline: You might want to look into KUbuntu (linked to from the main page) if you want to use KDE. Regular Ubuntu can run KDE, but it's customised for Gnome.
[11:42] <boogie_> gotcha
[11:42] <PCline> DIguana i see  thanks
[11:42] <Zen> my sound server is dead, how do I restart it without restarting my computer?
[11:42] <DeadEnd> what are linux resrtricted packages,?
[11:43] <mwe> nonfree
[11:43] <PCline> DIguana i just dont like gnome because the  nautilus
[11:43] <bimberi> ubotu tell deadend about components
[11:43] <jamie> Is there a way to switch from a Full-Screen app (game) to the desktop and back without closing. (like alt-tab in windows)?
[11:43] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[11:43] <j2daosh> ok damnit... how do i get this setup? the first page that gets seen if the parent directory page... the first page needs to be index.html... what conf file do i need to modify???
[11:43] <anavim> jamie: alt-tab should work as well
[11:44] <jamie> anavim (does nothing)
[11:44] <anavim> jamie: that specific app probably doesn't support it then, but most apps do
[11:44] <mwe> j2daosh: /index.html is the file that's opened by default
[11:44] <magicjj> thanks or everyones help i'll give it a shot
[11:44] <magicjj> later
[11:44] <mwe> j2daosh: you can change it in apache2.conf if you need to
[11:44] <borgista> jamie: F11?
[11:44] <j2daosh> what line would i add to that conf file?
[11:45] <timfrost> jamie, there is a button on the left of the bottom toolbar, that is like Windows "Show Desktop"
[11:45] <mwe> j2daosh: please learn a little about apache if you intend to run a web server
[11:45] <jamie> anavim (never got any apps in full screen to do It, I have tried in Ubuntu and Gentoo?
[11:45] <Kiwi___> Hi.. (Im totally new hereand to Ubuntu Linux) Is it easy to get GnuCash going
[11:45] <boogie_> got it thanks
[11:45] <jamie> timfrost, You mean in gnome-panel, however that does not show in full screen
[11:45] <syuusuke> boogie_: gj :)
[11:45] <DIguana> So, anyone know how I can kill those processes?
[11:46] <j2daosh> lol thats what im trying to do... i just wanna get it setup first and then mess with it while its up... doesn't work too well if i have nothing on it to mess with
[11:46] <Zen> how do I restart alsa?
[11:46] <kenv> I just installed UBUNTU and like it.  I am however looking for a suggested cd buring utility.  Does anyone have any suggestions?
[11:46] <Zen> kenv: k3b
[11:46] <mwe> j2daosh: open the file and LOOK in there. it's explaining itself when it comes to index files
[11:46] <PCline> k3b
[11:46] <Kiwi___> Ummm what accounting software would I best to use with Ubuntu
[11:46] <boogie_> the only difference in that my bottom toolbar has vanished
[11:46] <j2daosh> DIguana, yeah... ps -ef |grep processestokill then do a kill PID
[11:46] <anavim> jamie: not sure what any apps is for you, full-screen terminal and firefox works for me...
[11:46] <j2daosh> dont type pid though... type the number
[11:47] <PCline> kenv what did you had before ubuntu ?
[11:47] <mwe> j2daosh: DirectoryIndex
[11:47] <kenv> Zen  is that in the synaptic package manager?
[11:47] <j2daosh> in the apache2.conf?
[11:47] <DIguana> j2daosh: Tried that (although I used ps ax). Didn't work.
[11:47] <syuusuke> boogie_: right click on an empty space on the tool bar and click on "New panel" then move the new panel to the bottom
[11:47] <Dreamglider> i need a windows manager that will run good on a old laptop, it has AMD K6 500MHz and 128Mb ram
[11:47] <kenv> FEdora but did not use it much
[11:47] <mwe> j2daosh: yes DirectoryIndex in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[11:47] <Dreamglider> i tried gnome on the laptop and it is slooooow
[11:47] <jamie> anavim, I mean in games etc, not terminal
[11:48] <PCline> kenv did you try any other distros then fedora and ubuntu ? ( except windows ) :)
[11:48] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, any wm will run on that just choose one.
[11:48] <boogie_> ha ha....got it! your the best...i feel like a retard with this!
[11:48] <_jason> Can logging in with freenx using the same account that is already logged into gnome server-side cause problems?  or is it perfectly ok to do?
[11:48] <DIguana> It doesn't give any error messages or anything, the processes are just still there next time I run ps.
[11:48] <anavim> jamie: have you tried the key commands to switch virtual desktops?  that's almost the same thing
[11:48] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, sawfish, windowmaker, fluxbox...
[11:49] <Dreamglider> erUSUL, well i want it to run like gnome on a new pc(fast and good) not as a broken leg :)
[11:49] <kenv> I just installed UBUNTU and like it.  I am however looking for a suggested cd buring utility.  Does anyone have any suggestions? Someone said k3 but is there a site I can look for? I once used toast.
[11:49] <j2daosh> mwe, there is no DirectoryIndex in that file....
[11:49] <Dreamglider> ok i'll have a look at those
[11:49] <mwe> j2daosh: you'll _have_ to READ some documentation to understand apache, though. sorry, just asking in irc is not sufficient to learn apache
[11:49] <Dreamglider> kent, k3b
[11:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell kenv about synaptic
[11:49] <mwe> j2daosh: open your eyes. it's there unless you changed it
[11:50] <erUSUL> Dreamglider, gnome is a desktop envoirment (de) not a wm. Try xfce install xubuntu-desktop
[11:50] <_jason> kenv: gnomebaker and k3b, read the link ubotu sent you on how to install (pay attention to adding extra repos)
[11:50] <PCline> kenv google it
[11:50] <PCline> kenv sude apt-get install k3b  try it :)
[11:50] <j2daosh> mwe, dude.... look im not blind and im not a complete tard... im looking in the file now and the closest thing i got to that is #<Directory /home/*/public_html>
[11:50] <kenv> Thanks
[11:50] <syuusuke> how do I install KDE on ubuntu?
[11:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell syuusuke about kubuntu
[11:50] <DIguana> kenv: Nautilus (the default Ubuntu file manager) has CD burning capabilities built in, although if you want something more full-featured you can look into K3b.
[11:50] <PCline> kenv sudo apt-get install k3b  try it :)
[11:50] <syuusuke> oh awesome
[11:51] <anavim> oops, jamie left...
[11:51] <syuusuke> no wait lol
[11:51] <mwe> j2daosh: grep -irl DirectoryIndex /etc/apache2/
[11:51] <mwe> j2daosh: tell me what that gives you
[11:51] <j2daosh> do i need o append it to the file?
[11:51] <anavim> I take it back, all apps when in gtk fullscreen mode don't respond to alt-tab
[11:51] <syuusuke> i want to install KDE on  ubuntu without installing Kubuntu distro :)
[11:51] <syuusuke> but how
[11:51] <_jason> syuusuke: apt-get install kde
[11:51] <anavim> lol, now my firefox is stuck in fullscreen mode  :P
[11:52] <mwe> j2daosh: please tell me the output of the command I suggested
[11:52] <anavim> nm
[11:52] <j2daosh> its running now
[11:52] <syuusuke> " Couldn't find package kde"
[11:52] <syuusuke> update the sources.lst?
[11:52] <_jason> !info kde
[11:52] <ubotu> kde: (The K Desktop Environment), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 5:44ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 7 kB, Installed size: 40 kB
[11:52] <bimberi> syuusuke: enable the universe repository
[11:52] <bimberi> !universe
[11:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:52] <_jason> syuusuke: you'll need universe
[11:52] <syuusuke> ah
[11:52] <syuusuke> k i'll look into that, thanks
[11:52] <j2daosh> nothing
[11:52] <bimberi> syuusuke: yw :)
[11:52] <mwe> j2daosh: it's broken then
[11:53] <j2daosh> it returns a prompt
[11:53] <mwe> j2daosh: it should be there
[11:53] <j2daosh> so do i just need to add a DirectoryIndex whatever to the file?
[11:53] <mwe> j2daosh: I'd like to figure out why it's gone. you didn't mess with anything?
[11:54] <[dalamar] > is there anyway to get xfce to automount dvds and play them with a certain program like gnome can?
[11:54] <[dalamar] > or is there a seperate program that can?
[11:54] <dts> I'm trying to burn a DVD and I keep getting "File image creation failed" errors. I'm on a live CD could this have something to do with it?
[11:55] <j2daosh> only thing i can think of is maybe its a botched install... i did it first from synaptic... but then the instructions i was reading about it said to dl the latest files and to set files to /usr/local/program (mysql/apache/php)
[11:55] <FliesLikeABrick> yes dts, it is trying to make an image file to burn, but it has nowhere to write it
[11:55] <j2daosh> so that might have messed with it
[11:55] <mwe> j2daosh: is there an Include directive at the end of apache2.conf?
[11:55] <FliesLikeABrick> dts a temporary image i mean
[11:55] <dts> FliesLikeABrick, can i controll where it puts that image?
[11:55] <nbound> does linux have a write cache for usb drives, and if so can i turn it off =/????
[11:55] <FliesLikeABrick> dts you'd probably need a hard drive if you're burning a dvd
[11:56] <dts> yea i have some place
[11:56] <j2daosh> Include /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/[^.#] *
[11:56] <mwe> j2daosh: yeah
[11:56] <dts> but where does it try to create the image at?
[11:56] <strannik> hey, have a specific question about the vino package
[11:56] <dts> in /tmp?
[11:56] <mwe> j2daosh: DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
[11:56] <mwe> j2daosh: put that just before
[11:56] <j2daosh> append to that Include line?
[11:56] <j2daosh> ok
[11:56] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm not sure dts, you might be able to change the path it uses for temporary images somewhere in the configuration options for your burning program
[11:57] <mwe> j2daosh: and reload apache
[11:57] <doc_> hello
[11:57] <kenv> PCline I ran the sudo apt-get install k3b.  Will this install all the files needed? and is this gui or text based?
[11:57] <nbound> does linux have a write cache for usb drives, and if so can i turn it off =/???? anyone?
[11:57] <strannik> how can i make it start at boot in such a way that the users that are logging in will not be able to kill the process ?
[11:57] <DRK13> conky working with apt-get yet????????
[11:57] <j2daosh> by doing? /etc/apachectl restart?
[11:57] <adub> im trying to patch my orinoco drivers i patched them but when i go to run make i get this error Makefile:35: *** The kernel source is not configured.  Stop.
[11:57] <mwe> j2daosh: /etc/init.d/apache2 reload
[11:57] <j2daosh> ahh
[11:57] <j2daosh> ok
[11:57] <bimberi> nbound: yes and i don't know (sorry)
[11:58] <dts> FliesLikeABrick, it's the default nautilus thats the only burning software on the life cd
[11:58] <mwe> j2daosh: or /etc/init.d/apache2 start first if it's not running
[11:58] <nbound> bimberi, coz thats what i think the problem with me transfer stuff to my PSP is
[11:58] <FliesLikeABrick> i'm not sure dts, my guess would be that it tries to create it somewhere in /tmp, but thats just a guess
[11:58] <bimberi> nbound: you can use the sync command to flush buffers to disk, or unmounting elegantly (ie. not just pulling the cable) will do it too
[11:58] <doc_> mm... does any one know if there will be more actuliaced mythtv packages for ppc ? :? ... current version on ubuntu is 1.17 and i386 tree is on 1.18
[11:59] <benji> Anyone has experience installing a conexant winfast tv card?
[11:59] <nbound> bimberi, thx
[11:59] <mwe> j2daosh: if you can't get it all to work, my advice is to just follow the lamp wiki