=== ulinskie [n=yolynne@202.57.88.34] has joined #edubuntu === sm|home is now known as sankarshan === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:50] ogra: ping? === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.64] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-165-158.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === sankarshan [n=sankarsh@220.227.211.249] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@194.186.210.64] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #edubuntu === JaneW [n=JaneW@dsl-146-130-233.telkomadsl.co.za] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #edubuntu === blue-frog [n=james@81.56.254.229] has joined #edubuntu === aya [n=yann@cav13-3-82-234-224-217.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has left #edubuntu [] === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu [10:38] ogra: who is responsible for protecting the ubuntu brand? [10:38] ogra: I don't have her email anyomore [10:38] Jane silbs? === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === irvin_ [n=irvin@203.213.221.239] has joined #edubuntu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #edubuntu === irvin is away: I'm busy === P3L|C4N0 [n=gcamposm@200.106.95.64] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-34-118.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu [12:54] hi people === kjcole [n=kjcole@dsl092-145-217.wdc2.dsl.speakeasy.net] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.233] has joined #edubuntu [01:27] P3L|C4N0: G'day === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === writer [n=ivan@217.77.113.1] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-35-6.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@dslb-084-059-032-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jinty [n=jinty@dslb-084-059-032-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:00] ogra: ping [03:01] G'day mhz [03:01] Yagisan: wow! awake still? [03:02] mhz: yeah - just fixed a problem with my www server [03:03] cool! [03:03] mhz: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi [03:03] mhz: check it out - even has USN on the frount page [03:03] :) [03:03] I have just read a quite interesting email about SchoolNet [03:03] do you kno it? [03:04] http://www.morokeni.ch/pdf/eduKar-profile-11Jan2006.pdf [03:04] sorry, no, I don't [03:04] you should read the document [03:04] :P [03:04] edubuntu isn't that bad, but it is not as good as their own === mhz phone [03:05] lucasvo: if they add universe, edubuntu has most of it [03:05] yes [03:07] lucasvo: did I mention I finished the basics of my site :) === jinty_ [n=jinty@dslb-084-059-032-170.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === ealden [n=ealden@219.90.91.233] has joined #edubuntu [03:11] ogra: mhz is looking for you [03:11] Yagisan: where? [03:11] Yagisan, yes, i ponged [03:11] Yagisan: if i were you, i'd choose to display Ubuntu sec. news before M$ ones [03:11] but that might have gone under in my linedrop [03:12] ogra: hey, sorry I see no 'pong' anywhere [03:12] (weired) [03:12] Yagisan: which url? [03:12] mhz ogra: ping [03:12] Yagisan G'day mhz [03:12] mhz Yagisan: wow! awake still? [03:12] ogra mhz, pong [03:12] * Disconnected (). [03:12] might be the line dropped already [03:13] ooohhhhm must be something in my client... I never saw that [03:13] ogra: anyways, sorry for the inconvenience [03:13] mhz: no, it is ogra's problem [03:13] and thx for pongig [03:13] and thx for ponging [03:13] ogra: I have sent you an email [03:13] its on my side, dont worry [03:13] is it a goal of edubuntu to offer (cheap) solutions for schools in affrica === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu [03:13] SchoolNet Namibia? [03:14] lucasvo, thats rather the goal of highvoltage, we build annd offer the base for it [03:14] ogra: simple questions... When is next edubuntu summit and where? / Anychances I can convince you and Mark to let you come to Chile during last week of march, 1st week of april ? [03:15] surely not at this dates [03:15] we have release in april 20th [03:15] s7in/on [03:15] nobody will be able to travel at this time [03:16] since we'll need to fix the last bugs [03:16] hmmmm === mhz sighs [03:16] ogra: i can't make any event in may [03:16] in may we have the ubuntu conf ... [03:17] and I can't make any event before 20th of march [03:17] will be a bad time as well [03:17] ogra: that's why I said "i can't" [03:17] the only dates i can think of is after the ubuntu conference [03:17] when is conf? [03:18] i dont have the mail here [03:18] mid may i thin [03:18] k [03:18] bummer [03:18] :( [03:18] or beginning of may [03:19] i'll talk to mark about possible dates once he's back from asia ... [03:19] (dunno when that is though)# [03:19] The only available dates to book the places we 'strategically' need in Santiago, are March-April or after July, in which case will kill all our plans [03:19] our Plans considera 'real-intensive' training and touring schools [03:20] and this event is for 300 people [03:20] at least 200 school [03:20] s [03:20] lucasvo: sorry - was checking kids http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi [03:20] mhz, we wont be able to do anything like a edubuntu summit before release, i'm pretty sure [03:20] ogra: I know [03:21] I am not thinking of Edubuntu summit in Chile this year [03:21] and afterwards we'll have the ubuntu conf really soon [03:21] I just need to have 2 or 3 canonical people for 5 days in Chile [03:21] maybe 4 days [03:22] I know there will be a GNOME event in Brazil [03:22] near April too [03:22] as i said, i'll talk to mark if he's back from the asia promotion tour ... [03:22] so the idea ogra, was to make the event in Chile, go to Brazil [03:22] but i'm not sure how long that lasts [03:22] ogra: is he reading mails on regular basis [03:23] yes [03:23] but mind you, he's getting 1000s per day i think === mhz sighs deeply... [03:24] yes, i imagine [03:24] the issue I see here is for my plans only [03:25] you should probably ask *before* making plans if you want other people involved [03:25] I have finally got more interested people who are considering to sponsor me for about 6 months with the Edubuntu Tour thing [03:25] ogra: yes [03:25] but please consider that I have to start somewhere [03:26] and if i start with canonical people and dont get sponsors in Chile to help with Edubuntu Tour [03:26] then I doubt canonical will believe in my ideas for near future [03:26] ogra: or not? [03:27] you dont need sponsors ... [03:27] ogra: i do. I am getting to 'zero' money in the bank and the pocket [03:28] ogra: recently elected president has made education one of her top priorities for 2008 [03:29] so, the plan is to have a very active community and many shcools using Edubuntu [03:29] during 2007 [03:29] ogra: inn order to do so, 2006 is the year we need to make the Tour [03:29] in Chile [03:29] suggest the summit in Chile for 2007 [03:30] i meant you dont need sponsors to get canonical people to you [03:30] and show the Chilean Gov we did great in order to have its support for 2008 [03:30] ogra: oooh, I did not know that [03:30] either mark pays or he doesnt come [03:31] he has his own plane and i guess he can claim the fuel back on taxes ;) [03:32] ogra: oh, but I do need sponsors to get the plan doable. I am sure prospects see just a couple of chubby guys with no 'job' today when I knock on their doors. If they see Canonical behind these 2 guys... it is more likely they'll see I knwo what I am doing [03:33] mhz, sure, but i cant offer you to schedule marks time, he just wont allow me to do that ;) [03:33] ogra: hehehe, I know [03:33] and my schedule is locked pretty much for development until release ... [03:34] ogra: i was just asking if there is any chance I can have you and 1 more and 1 or 2 more guys from Canonical for 4 days in Chile [03:34] i'll talk to mark, as i said [03:34] ogra: and what is this were the 22nd of april? [03:34] is -if [03:35] thats 2 days after release .... nobody in the distro team will sleep the week before [03:35] ogra: you could see this as your vacations... rafting? [03:35] sure i could, but youre throwing impossible dates at me :/ [03:36] hehehehehehe [03:36] lol [03:36] 24th? [03:36] i have to look up when exactly the ubuntu conf is to tell you more [03:36] ogra: okis, i understand [03:37] ogra: i hope you understand why i needed this bugging you [03:37] and i really need to talk to mark... [03:37] :) [03:37] yes, i do [03:37] i'll try my best... [03:37] thx [03:37] i know you do === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === vincenzio [n=vmarks@adsl-065-015-231-005.sip.rmo.bellsouth.net] has joined #edubuntu [03:55] creating a zip archive won't work when there is an empty folder to add to the zip [03:55] oups [03:56] wrong chan again [03:56] sorry [03:57] (and hi all btw) [04:03] guim: hehehe [04:03] ;) [04:03] (reporting a problem I have with gnome/ubuntu) [04:04] edubuntu chan's name is to close :) [04:04] mhz, did you see the belgian link I sent you? [04:04] lucasvo, thanks for the pdfs [04:04] guim: to me? [04:04] lucasvo, but the comparison doc is compeltely wrong in most cases [04:06] they omit most of the apps we ship [04:08] i wonder if they used a prerelease or something ... [04:08] mhz, yes [04:08] guim: then nope, i dont recall [04:09] "reseau citoyen" [04:09] this an initative in Blegium to provide free wireless access to the internet in some cities in Belgium [04:09] You said you were looking for that kind of project [04:10] but their wiki is in french and the website is not really uptodate [04:11] guim: ooooohhhhh, yes!!! [04:12] :) [04:12] guim: I did saw it [04:12] long ago to remember, sorry [04:12] np [05:02] I followed EdubuntuInstallNotes advice to ThinClientHowtoNAT [05:03] I see /etc/ltsp/nat.conf [05:03] but I dont get to understand how I can include in it to keep port 8080 open [05:03] any ideas? [05:05] Yagisan: awake? [05:06] hmm you dont really need NAT on thin clients [05:07] since nothing runs locally [05:08] hmmm, i do, beacause this small network is shared by 2 clients and 2 normal linux boxes [05:08] and the 'server' provide Edubuntu and NAT === mhz would love to have a real testing env. soon [05:10] as i said, the thin clients dont need any routing [05:10] and no NAT as well [05:11] ogra: hehehe, i know about the Clients no needing anything [05:11] but the other 2 normal boxed do need it. And all 4 machines (boxes and clients) are connected to same server [05:11] you will never connect them to anything apart the server and all the sessions run on the server, there is zero point in doing NAT [05:12] why do you need to NAT the normal boxes ? [05:12] just point them to the right gateway [05:13] ogra: the server has 2 NIC's. One is only for local traffic (LTSP and NAT), the other is connected to the house-modem [05:13] ah [05:13] yes, then NAT might help [05:14] LOL [05:14] i didnt think you have two NICs [05:14] its a waste of HW :) [05:15] ogra: it's not 'my server', it's the one they lend me to 'play and test' as much aas I can as long as I dont touch the HW, only the 1 HD I have for Edubuntu stuff [05:15] so those are the rules I play with [05:15] ah [05:15] and that's I hope when I get sponsors I can have a 'real testing env.' [05:17] ogra: so if you can tell me how I can set that nat.conf to let me open 8080.. it will be real cool [05:17] I can access 7080 perfectly [05:17] but 8080 [05:18] :( [05:18] does squid run ? [05:18] there must be something listening on 8080 [05:18] else your connection will be refused [05:18] +so configure squid right and make sure it runs [05:19] hmmm, squid is good idea but then why I can get to 7080 and not 8080? [05:20] what do you get on 7080 ? [05:20] SchoolTool [05:20] thats not NATed [05:21] ok, i got lost now. I need that 'server' to accept 8080 and 7080 [05:21] nope [05:21] as in 192.168....:7080 [05:21] 7080 runs locally on the server [05:21] and as in 192.168....:8080 [05:21] yes [05:21] thats not NAT [05:21] yes [05:21] it is not nat [05:21] I agree [05:22] but my point is I tried to read nat.conf [05:22] NAT means you forward requests on one NIC to the other [05:22] following InstallNotes advice [05:22] yes, ogra [05:22] i didnt write the NAT stuff [05:22] duh! [05:22] I thought you had [05:22] and i dont know who put that on the InsatllNotes [05:23] ooops [05:23] since NAT is stupid fro normal ltsp functionallity [05:23] ok, then the good news is that ThinClientHowtoNAT works ok, but it's chineese to me when I try to understand the nat.conf file [05:24] its only intresting for your corner case where you put real workstations on the thin client net [05:24] and I have ports blocked BUT 7080 [05:24] but only there [05:24] :) [05:24] you dont have blocked anything local with NAT [05:25] so schooltool will always be available unless you write a special iptables rule for that [05:25] s/for/for blocking/ [05:26] ohh [05:27] then why 8080 is being 'refused connection' in your oipinion? [05:27] nat means only forwarding stuff between the two networks [05:27] yup [05:27] NAT is Network Address T... [05:27] dunno, is your squid configured correctly and running ? === mhz has not run squid there yet [05:28] so why do you expect port 8080 to answer ? [05:28] because IIRC, all ports are open unless you close them? [05:28] and localhost:8080 is responding perfectly [05:28] yes, on the server where noting listens on 8080 [05:29] BUT 192.168.0.1:8080 is refusing [05:30] what do you get on localhost:8080 [05:31] now, moin, because Tecnocimiento.cl is getting 'time out's (looooong story) [05:31] so I need to set up something quickly while I get a better solution form hostinf [05:31] g === ryanbisd [n=ryan@216.62.85.65] has joined #edubuntu [06:32] Hey guys. Do you know of any good ESL programs or games? === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu [06:50] Hey guys. Do you know of any good ESL programs or games? === DaSkreech [n=student@port0154-adx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has joined #edubuntu [06:58] Hello [06:58] I'm having a little issue with java in Firefox [07:01] Is there a problem with BlackDown? [07:02] DaSkreech, please ask in #ubuntu, as the version of FF is the same [07:02] not that i'm aware of [07:02] I am [07:02] j2re in breezy runs fine here [07:02] Just thought that you might have a quicker finger on the pulse [07:03] (at least the one from multiverse we offer= [07:03] since schools would make heavy use of java [07:03] ogra: Do you have Firefox 1.0.7? [07:03] or have you ugraded? [07:05] i have the ff and j2re we offer in breezy [07:05] works fine on ltsp and non ltsp setups [07:05] Right [07:05] Can you do a quick test for me? [07:06] guim: what was it about reseau citoyen? [07:06] I have met these guys [07:06] Go to mathsnet.net and click on algebra [07:07] not now, i'm not near my breezy box and tomorrow is deadline for new packages in edubuntu dapper .... [07:07] :-) [07:07] Work hard :) We appreciate it [07:07] probably some other user with breezy in here can help === DaSkreech nods. Assuming they aren't busy [07:16] and speak up :-) === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-35-6.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === littlepaul [n=littlepa@p5084F1EB.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu [07:25] hi littlepaul [07:25] hi DaSkreech === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === martin [n=martin@p508B24C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === martin [n=martin@p508B24C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === lguerra [i=lguerra@200.21.93.195] has joined #edubuntu === martin [n=martin@p508B24C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === martin__ [n=martin@p508B24C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #edubuntu === martin__ [n=martin@p508B24C6.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has left #edubuntu ["Leaving"] === martin is now known as pirast [07:49] ogra: nat.conf was ok, Iptables was ok too [07:49] moin.py was set to use interface = localhost [07:49] intead of '' [07:49] duh! === ogra_ibook [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #edubuntu === juliux [n=juliux@ubuntu/member/juliux] has joined #edubuntu === jouni__m [n=jouni@laku34.adsl.netsonic.fi] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-35-6.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === neurogeek [n=neurogee@200.93.35.152] has joined #edubuntu === DaSkreech [n=student@port0154-adx-adsl.cwjamaica.com] has left #edubuntu [] === arkan0x [n=arkan0x@pc-93-72-214-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #edubuntu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-125-87.tpgi.com.au] has left #edubuntu [] === Viktor [n=vgrgic@s5590ec4e.adsl.wanadoo.nl] has joined #edubuntu === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089C8D4.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-35-6.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-35-6.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #edubuntu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@moinmoin/fan/mhz] has joined #edubuntu === mhz is now known as mhz_dinner === penguin_roar [n=daniel@62-20-221-157-no19.tbcn.telia.com] has joined #edubuntu [11:53] hello :D [11:54] Just rolled out 70 clients on an Edubuntu server today =) [11:54] wow ! [11:54] Good work lads and laddies [11:54] thanks :) [11:55] its just a 2 Xeon machine so its interesting to see how it will handle the load [11:55] 3 Gb mem [11:56] tried sabayon, that made managing profiles easier than on Novell Zenworks [11:57] hey, trondm, is that the norweigian guy from kongsvinger? [12:02] penguin_roar, you played with pessulus yet? [12:03] no, whats that? [12:03] lockdown editor, integrates into new versions of sabayon [12:03] oki, something i must look at [12:03] its a shrunk down variant of sabayon