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| === ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-12.17 uploaded (I have no clever code name) | Daily Diet of Destruction: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/ | ||
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| mjg59 | Ooh ooh ooh | 03:47 |
| mjg59 | Laptop docking support patches | 03:47 |
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| dilinger | whee! | 04:19 |
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| dilinger | (22:19:27) Ian Gulliver: hung on detecting and activating hardware | 04:23 |
| dilinger | (22:22:36) Ian Gulliver: 4 times now | 04:23 |
| dilinger | (22:22:45) Ian Gulliver: looks like 2.6.15 fixes that nasty it-actually-boots-sometimes bug | 04:23 |
| dilinger | heh. there's some race in there | 04:23 |
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| doko | BenC: ping | 04:50 |
| BenC | doko: pong | 04:51 |
| doko | BenC: is there a way to influence the order how scsi disks are enumerated? I have one on a 3ware controller, which is the first in BIOS setup, but comes as third in the system (the two sata disks are first and second) | 04:57 |
| BenC | doko: it's all in how the kernel reports PCI devices to udev, which it in turn loads the controller drivers in that order | 04:58 |
| BenC | so it's all based on PCI ordering | 04:58 |
| BenC | lspci will show you what you can expect | 04:59 |
| BenC | if the sata controller comes before the 3ware one, then there's not much can so other than blacklist the sata controller from initramfs and have it load from the base system | 05:00 |
| doko | not nice ... the 3ware has the highest ID | 05:00 |
| doko | can this blacklisting be done persistant (for upgrades)? | 05:01 |
| Mithrandir | doko: you can't even be sure the ordering is consistent. Why do you want to see the controllers in a particular order? | 05:01 |
| doko | remove the sata disks at some point and still have a bootable system | 05:02 |
| Mithrandir | use by-label or by-uuid? | 05:02 |
| lamont__ | YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! _I_ _AM_ _INVINCIBLE_!!!!!!!!!!!!!! | 05:03 |
| === lamont__ uploads the new elilo so that we can toss initrd-tools | ||
| doko | could somebody please kick out this robot ;-P | 05:03 |
| BenC | sweet | 05:03 |
| doko | Mithrandir: in grub? | 05:04 |
| BenC | lamont: so can ia64 and hppa go to initramfs now? | 05:04 |
| lamont__ | just booted ia64 with initramfs | 05:04 |
| Mithrandir | doko: grub is on the first drive the BIOS sees, you can't really change that. | 05:04 |
| lamont__ | BenC: now, for extra credit... tell me what magic is missing on both ia64 and hppa to have the network card autodetect and configure like it does on the first-class architectures... | 05:04 |
| doko | yes, but it has root=/dev/sda5 , so this should be changed to something else? | 05:05 |
| lamont__ | BenC: and I'm just being blind today... can't see where that stupid question is coming from... (Install a boot block using the existing...)" | 05:08 |
| lamont__ | that is, I can't see why the kernel postinst doesn't ask the same question with grub | 05:08 |
| lamont__ | oh, wait. that's sick. | 05:08 |
| lamont__ | there's no /etc/grub.conf | 05:08 |
| lamont__ | --> no question | 05:09 |
| lamont__ | and no grub run. | 05:10 |
| lamont__ | hrm. | 05:10 |
| lamont__ | BenC: I think that kernel-package needs to be updated to use debconf.... and that really hurts to say that. | 05:10 |
| BenC | lamont: PCI devices need a MODULE_DEVICE_TABLE() | 05:11 |
| BenC | that will help udev to know which driver to load when it sees that PCI device id | 05:11 |
| lamont__ | 0000:00:0c.0 Ethernet controller: Digital Equipment Corporation DECchip 21142/43 (rev 41) | 05:13 |
| lamont__ | that doesn't have a DEVICE_TABLE??? | 05:13 |
| lamont__ | 0000:a0:03.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82540EM Gigabit Ethernet Controller (rev 02) | 05:13 |
| lamont__ | I can believe that one's new enough not to. | 05:13 |
| === lamont__ reboots the box to see something | ||
| lamont__ | BenC: so, ia64 needs to depend elilo (>=3.6-1) and hppa/ia64 both need klibc-utils (>=1.1.16-1ubuntu1) | 05:16 |
| lamont__ | and then the initrd-tools Depend can go away | 05:17 |
| lamont__ | BenC: fresh boot shows eth0 present with a MAC addr, etc... but not configured. | 05:18 |
| lamont__ | ifup eth0 and everything is happy | 05:18 |
| lamont__ | so I think it's above the kernel... | 05:18 |
| lamont__ | udevd[784] : get_netlink_msg: unable to receive kernel netlink message: No buffer space available | 05:18 |
| lamont__ | I wonder if that's related... :-) | 05:18 |
| lamont__ | * Detecting and activating hardware... | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | udevd[1726] : get_netlink_msg: unable to receive kernel netlink message: No buffer space available | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | ...done. | 05:19 |
| doko | Mithrandir grub lists root=/dev/sda5 as parameter, so this should be changed to something else? | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | hrm... probably | 05:19 |
| Mithrandir | doko: if you use root=/dev/disk/by-uuid/$uuid-of-fs | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | and shortly after that: | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | * Loading modules... | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | Linux Tulip driver version 1.1.13 (May 11, 2002) | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | tulip0: no phy info, aborting mtable build | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | tulip0: MII transceiver #1 config 1000 status 782d advertising 01e1. | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | eth0: Digital DS21143 Tulip rev 65 at 80001000, 00:10:83:7A:1F:35, IRQ 66. | 05:19 |
| lamont__ | ...done. | 05:19 |
| BenC | lamont: that's a auto etho0 to /etc/network/interfaces | 05:22 |
| lamont__ | BenC: right. But I don't need that on i386 | 05:22 |
| lamont__ | because of this: | 05:23 |
| lamont__ | mapping hotplug | 05:23 |
| lamont__ | script grep | 05:23 |
| lamont__ | map eth0 | 05:23 |
| lamont__ | hence the "what magic is missing here" question | 05:23 |
| lamont__ | or maybe it's not... :-( | 05:24 |
| lamont__ | I just know that my i386, ppc, and amd64 boxen all autoconfig eth0, even without the 'auto eth0' in /etc/network/interfaces | 05:24 |
| Mithrandir | lamont__: autoconfiguration of networks is kinda broken in dapper now. | 05:25 |
| lamont__ | Mithrandir: it didn't work in breezy either. | 05:26 |
| lamont__ | Mithrandir: how soon will the known borkage be fixed? | 05:26 |
| Mithrandir | lamont__: ask scott | 05:26 |
| lamont__ | BenC: can I leave fixing the kernel package depends to you? | 05:27 |
| lamont__ | BenC: fwiw, klibc_1.1.16-1ubuntu1 is current everywhere but sparc, which is probably just an upload-not-done-yet thing | 05:29 |
| BenC | yeah, fabbione is away for awhile | 05:30 |
| BenC | I can do the kernel deps | 05:30 |
| lamont__ | thanks | 05:30 |
| BenC | klibc is a initramfs-tools dep I think | 05:31 |
| BenC | it's not for linux-image-* or kernel-package | 05:31 |
| infinity | lamont__: I can bump the depends on klibc* in initramfs-tools for you. | 05:53 |
| lamont__ | infinity: ah, yeah, that'd be the place, huh? | 05:58 |
| lamont__ | infinity: or I can do it if you don't have an upload planned soon | 05:59 |
| infinity | <shrug>.. I have the source sitting right here. | 05:59 |
| infinity | (>= 1.1.16-1) should be fine, yes? | 06:00 |
| infinity | (so it can go back to Debian like that too) | 06:00 |
| infinity | Uploaded. | 06:02 |
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| makx | infinity: the evms hooks landed directly in evms with latest debian upload :) | 07:07 |
| makx | i see that i need to sync to your repo for some nice arch support and copy_exec fixes. | 07:08 |
| makx | i'm still wondering why ubuntu's modprobe has "-Qs"? | 07:09 |
| makx | and i don't see that in our m-i-t.. | 07:09 |
| infinity | makx: I saw that. Congrats. I'll be merging that stuff in after my VAC. | 07:13 |
| infinity | makx: With any luck, we're down to pretty much no diff, except for bugfixes and doc changes passing back and forth. | 07:13 |
| infinity | (and some usplash junk) | 07:13 |
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| infinity | BenC: Can you please sync ipw2100 to 1.1.4 if you have a chance? | 11:59 |
| infinity | BenC: (regarding: https://launchpad.net/products/network-manager/+bug/28544 ) | 12:00 |
| BenC | sure | 12:01 |
| infinity | Danke. | 12:01 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Did you see my pointer to the Marvell wireless driver? | 12:01 |
| BenC | I did, but it's lost in scrollback...can you email it to me where I know it will stay in my view? | 12:02 |
| mjg59 | Ok | 12:02 |
| BenC | thanks | 12:02 |
| mjg59 | BenC: Address? | 12:02 |
| BenC | bcollins@ubuntu.com | 12:03 |
| mjg59 | Done | 12:03 |
| mjg59 | Needs firmware, we probably want to ask for distribution rights | 12:03 |
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