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ubuntustubbster12:00
j2daoshyeah that line did it :) thank you very much for your help... now its time to start messing with stuff :) woot woot... ill be back to ask questions if i break something :)12:00
gnudreamerquick ways to allow my dvd-rom to read dvd-cd's?12:00
adubim trying to patch my orinoco drivers i patched them but when i go to run make i get this error Makefile:35: *** The kernel source is not configured.  Stop.12:00
naneognudreamer... there are such things as dvd-cds?12:00
nboundgnudreamer, dvd-cds??? =/12:00
naneodont you mean vcds?12:01
trappistadub: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)12:01
gnudreamerdvd's with information other than video?!12:01
benjidoc_: what tv card do you have?12:01
naneoyou mean dvd-rom.12:01
gnudreamerquick ways to allow my dvd-rom to read dvd-cd's?12:01
mwegnudreamer: well I just put em in12:01
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j2daoshwait... one more question before i leave... is there (and if there is how) do i manage the webpage remotely? do i need to log into a certain page after i set it up or something?12:01
adubtrappist i downloaded my headers with the proper arch12:01
gnudreameri think it pretty much says dvd-rom in the sentence12:02
mwegnudreamer: that pops up a window with the contents in it12:02
j2daoshbasically im asking if there is a webconfig for it12:02
adubi ran arch i have i686 and i apt-get install linux-headers-68612:02
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benji Anyone has experience installing a conexant winfast tv card?12:02
gnudreameryeah that works for actual dvd's but not dvd's containing other data12:02
doc_benji: pinnacle pc tv ... mythtv work right in my pc (amd xp 2000+) with version 1.18, but the version for ppc is 1.17 ... so... do you know if there will be more actualiced packages ? or non-official packages with a more recent version ? :?12:02
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trappistadub: whatever you're building needs to know where the headers are, then.  it sounds like it's looking at some unconfigured kernel source - the headers should behave correctly if the Makefile knows where they are12:02
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benjidoc_: fraid not, i was actually goinig to ask you about drivers, i'm a few steps behind yuo in getting my card to work12:03
nboundbimberi, sync works like a charm =)12:04
naneognudreamer: ubuntu will automount data dvds (dvd roms) as easily as data cds (cd roms). typically one calls the dvd drive... a ... dvd drive12:04
bimberinbound: great! :)12:04
adubtrappist i appreciate your help do you think i need to make a symlink from the headers to the directory im running make in12:04
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gnudreamerthanks for the grammer lesson naneo12:04
tristanmikeI can just copy my Windows fonts into Ubuntu provided they are truetype, right?12:04
gnudreameri tried that12:04
xavier_hi all12:04
naneognudreamer: it is spelt  "grammAr" :P12:05
xavier_anyone using firehol in ubuntu breezy ?12:05
doc_benji: mm...12:05
gnudreamerim getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes12:05
gnudreamerthanks for the grammer lesson naneo12:05
doc_benji: have you seen mythtv.org in depth ?12:05
doc_benji: your card is well supported, not ?12:05
benjidoc_: no12:05
gnudreamerdo you have anything useful to say12:05
trappistadub: no.  there's probably a README and/or INSTALL in the directory you're working in, which should tell you how to tell the Makefile where your headers are.  like, LINUX_SOURCE=/path/to/headers, or maybe it looks in /usr/src/linux, in which case that should be a symlink to your headers.  but check the docs.12:05
syuusukebimberi, do you know if there is a difference between kubuntu distro and installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu distro?12:05
benjidoc_: again no12:05
gnudreamerim getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes12:06
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ninnghizidhajust the gnome-programms, syuusuke12:06
gnudreamerim getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes and freezes12:06
syuusukereally eh12:06
benjidoc_: although it seems to be a fairly comone chip set12:06
doc_benji: yup12:06
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bimberisyuusuke: no difference in the kubuntu setup12:07
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syuusukethanks for the advice guys :)12:07
xavier_I have a problem with firehol not restoring firewall rules at boot... any advice ?12:07
nboundbimberi, whould there be a force a sync after every command to the drive?12:07
naneohah12:08
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bimberinbound: i don't know (but might research sometime)12:08
erUSULxavier_, sudo update-rc.d firehol defaults12:08
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mwexavier_: use iptables-restora at boot12:08
qsrvhi12:08
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qsrvany thinkpad users?12:09
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nboundbimberi, yeah im googlin it myself12:09
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qsrvI'm having trouble making the line-in work for audio capture12:09
bimberinbound: tell me when you find out! :P12:09
xavier_erUSUL: I do it the update and firehol it's in  the Rc directories...12:09
naneoincidentally, ubuntu never remembers my domain or dns setting in network manager... how the heck do i make it do so?12:09
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xavier_mwe: I would to know why firehol don't start at boot, and I need to run it because I have a NFS and NIS server runing12:10
adubhttp://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79160.html12:10
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naneoi have posted on the forums about network manager except some helpful gent told me to rtfm12:11
adubtrappist the above is the tutorial i am following   no errors until i got to #make and i have followed verbatim12:11
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tuxietrappist, apt-build works for me now.. it segfaults the last thing it does, but after compiling and installing..12:11
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mwexavier_: if it doesn't come with a rc script you need to put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh or something like that12:12
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tuxietrappist, I had to upgrade (from sources with dpkg-buildpackage) apt, apt-src, apt-build and libapt-pkg-perl from dapper12:12
xavier_mwe: there is a rc script in init.d but for some reason seems that don't start o fail to do it...12:12
benjidoc_: hey i have taken a look at thatsite but des not seem to help,thannks anyway12:13
mwexavier_: you need to check the log files then12:13
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doc_benji: :)12:13
mwexavier_: does it start if you run the rc script manually?12:13
xavier_mwe: yes12:13
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mwexavier_: the name of the rc script is firehol?12:14
xavier_mwe: yes12:14
ninnghizidhagot a problem. I'd like to enter my mounted windows-drive, but the folder looks like this and deonst let me in: dr-x------   1 root root 4096 2006-01-17 17:54 windows12:14
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ninnghizidhahow can i enter it?12:14
mcdenyerhey does anyone know how to uninstall programs that were installed using wine?12:14
_jasonninnghizidha: unmount it and then mount it with '-o umask=0222' option12:14
mwexavier_: does ls /etc/rc?.d|grep firehol confirm the links are in place?12:15
nboundbimberi i got it... was easy12:15
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bimberinbound: hm?12:15
nboundbimberi - sudo mount -oremount,rw,sync /dev/sdb1/12:15
ninnghizidhai see ... how would that look like in fstab?12:15
mcdenyerhow do u uinstall prgrams in ubuntu12:15
mcdenyer?12:16
mwemcdenyer: use synaptic12:16
HJare ubuntu respositories updated as newer versions of software come (like ebuilds with gentoo), or are they static with just updates for security/bug fixes (siuch as with suse)?12:16
mwemcdenyer: or sudo apt-get install foobar12:16
bimberinbound: thanks!  (a mount option - of course)12:16
nboundmcdenyer, apt-get uninstall <program> (or use synaptic)12:16
xavier_mwe: S36firehol12:16
xavier_ S36firehol12:16
xavier_ S41firehol12:16
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mcdenyermwe what if the program was installed in wine?12:16
nboundbimberi, now do u know how to put that in the automount script?12:16
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nboundmcdenyer, if it doesnt have an uninstall u gotta just delete it12:17
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bimberinbound: nope :|12:17
[dalamar] is there anyway to get xfce to automount dvds and play them with a certain program like gnome can? is there a seperate program that will do this?12:17
tuxienbound, mcdenyer: apt-get remove, not uninstall12:17
mcdenyernbound, well it has an install its just was installed using wine and is installed in wine folder12:17
mcdenyertuxie, ok12:17
nboundtuxie, ohhh thats right =P12:17
nboundanyone here know how to change the automount script????12:17
mwemcdenyer: use winecfg12:17
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mwemcdenyer: I guess you didn't get steam to work?12:18
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_jasonnbound: do you mean fstab?12:18
mcdenyermwe no12:18
mcdenyermwe looking for diff tutoiral12:18
mcdenyermwe ill brb and ill show u what happebned12:18
nbound_jason, maybe, whatever gives a device its settings upon mounting12:18
ian_Is there a way to get the address bar up in nautilus in ubuntu?12:19
ninnghizidha_jason, got it - thanks a lot! *inside*12:19
mwexavier_: find /etc/rc* -name "*firehol" paste that on pastebin12:19
_jasonubotu: tell nbound about mountwindows12:19
_jasonnbound: read the 'manual' method in that wiki12:20
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xavier_mwe: /etc/rc0.d/S36firehol           /etc/rc6.d/S36firehol           /etc/rcS.d/S41firehol12:21
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mwexavier_: alright. time to check the logfiles I guess12:21
xavier_mwe: I do it, but don't found any reference to errors....thanks for your support12:22
nbound_jason, hmmm thats only for static filesystems, i need to change it for a usb device12:22
draconiusI just freshly reinstalled ubuntu, and I am having some sound issues: using ALSA, with both onboard and a PCI soundcard, if I do something like drag around terminals or switch virtual desktops, my sound gets terribly scratchy...but it is fine when I am not doing stuff like that...anybody have an idea?12:22
nbounddraconius, try a diff sound system (like OSS for example)12:23
KeyseirI had an error while 'make'ing Mac On Linux on breezy. Did it from the tgz. The configure went fine, but the make had errors. The error is here: http://pastebin.com/510689 if someone would take a look. Thanks.12:23
teclishello I have a little with knode ubuntu 5.10. Knode starts up without any problems. But when I try to configure knode, I got a blank Config-Menu. Can anyone help me?12:23
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ubuntuhi all12:24
ubuntui just have a question12:24
ubuntui have a "trust" mouse12:24
nbound_jason, hmmm thats only for static filesystems, i need to change it for a usb device, any ideas?12:24
ubuntuit's optical12:24
ubuntui can click but i can't move12:24
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ubuntuusing live 5.1012:24
l3m_is there a way to get an "osx"-like app menubar on top of ubuntu instead of the applications/places/system default? and how can i change the button order to osx order on the topleft of a window instead of windows topright?12:24
nboundubuntu, maybe its dead ;)12:24
HJare ubuntu respositories updated as newer versions of software come (like ebuilds with gentoo), or are they static with just updates for security/bug fixes (siuch as with suse)?12:25
_jasonnbound: I see what you mean... It's automounting your usb device but not giving you permissions you like?  no I don't know what keeps track of that offhand12:25
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draconiusnbound: does the same thing :/12:25
ubuntuno, it's working under windows12:25
kostausing install 5.1012:25
draconiusI previously had ubuntu running on this same hardware with alsa with no problems, all I did was reinstall12:25
kostaworking under vmwarez12:25
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_jasonHJ: the latter, but there are backports when feasible12:25
devilzhey12:25
nbounddraconius, why do u need two scards any way =/????12:25
timfrostxavier_, firehol isn't being started in the default runlevel.  Try 'sudo update-rc.d firehol start 1 2 3 4'12:25
devilzcan i ask how can i get back into my linux, i installed windows and i cant see boot loader too choose windows or linux12:26
NCLifeid like to knowi if there exists a how-to or guide to install gdesklets on ubuntu12:26
devilzand now i cant see linux12:26
devilzhow can i get my linux back12:26
nbound_jason, hmmm damn, yeah i need it to force a sync after every command, i can do it atm, but i have to remount =/12:26
_jasonubotu: tell devilz about grub12:26
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devilzi dont care about grub12:26
devilzjust tell me how can i get12:26
ubuntu_jason: any ideas what to do with my "trust" optical mouse?12:27
devilzmy boot loader back12:27
_jasondevilz: read what ubotu sent you...12:27
mcdenyermwe ok12:27
nboundubuntu, reconfigure x12:27
mcdenyermwe well the install went good12:27
nbound!xorg12:27
ubotuit has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:27
mcdenyermwe and then i tried to run it12:27
ubuntuok12:27
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mcdenyermwe and it started up and started to update steam and then it just stopped12:27
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mcdenyermwe and i got some errors in console12:27
mwetimfrost: is rcS.d run in all runlevels?12:28
mcdenyermwe i mean in terminal12:28
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nboundmcdenyer, try again sometimes wine isnt stable...12:28
NCLifeis it save to install the package of desklets on synaptic? do i need to install any other thing first before installing it?12:28
mcdenyernbound, ive tried quite a few times12:28
ubuntuhow to reconf X?12:28
nboundubuntu i just told you12:28
_jasonNCLife: do you mean gdesklets?  If so, yes it is safe12:28
nbound!xorg12:28
ubotu[xorg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:28
mcdenyermwe, im going to just try again and try different dlls12:28
mwemcdenyer: did you update the dll references you were supposed to do in the config file, but which you couldn't because the tutorial is outdated?12:29
ubuntusorry i can't scroll up :(12:29
Hikaru79NCLife, it's usually safe to install *anything* through Synaptic. It will automatically pull in any dependencies it needs.12:29
mcdenyermwe btw i foud the dlls on a windows pc but some of them are .dl_ not .dll12:29
nboundubuntu, i told u again just then12:29
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ubuntuoh ok12:29
mwemcdenyer: did you update the dll references you were supposed to do in the config file, but which you couldn't because the tutorial is outdated?12:29
nboundubuntu, read what ubotu says (he's a bot)12:29
mcdenyermwe no :P12:29
ubuntui saw it12:29
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nbound!xorg12:29
ubotuhmm... xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:29
devilz can i ask how can i get back into my linux, i installed windows and i cant see boot loader too choose windows or linux12:29
devilzoops12:29
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devilzi have kubuntu12:30
mwemcdenyer: you need to12:30
NCLife_jason and Hikaru79, thanks :)12:30
meepyHmm, I want the windows libs using for compiling, what is the packages name?12:30
mwemcdenyer: use winecfg though12:30
mcdenyermwe ok can u help me do that?12:30
mwemcdenyer: or it wont work12:30
nbounddevilz, always install winf first then lin12:30
mcdenyermwe ok is that a different wine i need to get?12:30
nboundwin*12:30
ubuntusorry i don't wanna flood, just need time to write down12:30
mwemcdenyer: just run winecfg from the terminal12:30
xavier_mwe: System startup links for /etc/init.d/firehol already exist.12:30
mcdenyermwe ok12:30
ubuntu!xorg12:30
ubotuit has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"12:30
mwemcdenyer: no comes with wine12:30
devilznbound, well i had problems with win12:30
_jasondevilz: ubotu has told you how to do it.  Read what he sent you and if you have questions come back12:30
devilzso i needed to reinstall12:30
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devilz_jason, yes yes12:30
mwexavier_: yes12:30
devilzbut i have kubuntu12:30
devilzand i write rescue12:31
devilzi get setup12:31
ubuntulet's see12:31
nbounddevilz, i beleive there is some option, somewhere but i dont know it12:31
mcdenyermwe,  so i just type winecfg in console?12:31
mwexavier_: I believe /etc/rcS.d is run at runlevels 1-5, right?12:31
xavier_mwe: It's the output from your command !12:31
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mcdenyermwe i meen terminal12:31
nboundmcdenyer, yes12:31
xavier_mwe: yes12:31
mcdenyernbound, wait is it wine.cfg?12:32
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mwexavier_: then that's not the problem. someone else suggested updating the runlevels not me12:32
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xavier_mwe: sorry, all the help it's appreciate ;-)12:33
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mwexavier_: I don't know why it's not working. sorry12:33
nboundmcdenyer, NO.... winecfg12:33
nboundmcdenyer, sorry bout caps12:33
mcdenyernbound, ok did it12:33
mcdenyernbound, nothing really happened though12:34
ubuntustill can't use mouse. It's a PS/2 optical mouse12:34
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xavier_mwe: don't worry..... I will investigate farder.. Thanks another time12:34
mcdenyermwe oh and i noticed that one of the .dll files i got is in all CAPs and the other two arent does that matter?12:34
nboundmcdenyer, wait, if its the first run, its setting up ur fake c drive12:34
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mcdenyernbound, the c drive was already set up12:35
mwenbound: he ran wine notepad already12:35
nboundmwe, oh ok12:35
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mcdenyermwe i ran winecfg and it didnt really do anything im just on a blank line now12:35
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ubuntunbound: any other piece of advice? I have ps/2 optical mouse12:35
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eddieleehi guys12:36
mcdenyermwe so do u think i should change the .dll to lower case?12:36
mcdenyer\12:36
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j2daoshok quick question... i order to make another user on my home network be able to access a certain shared folder (that user is on WinXP - i know.. but she dont wanna change to linux) how do i set the permission for just that one user?12:36
mwemcdenyer: you dont need to I think12:36
linux_user400354i installed wu-ftp on ubuntu. is there something i have to do before my computer can be used for ftp?12:37
Syco54645is LD_LIBRARY_PATH the variable where library paths are stored12:37
nboundubuntu, if it dont work which is weird, get another mouse, but 90% would be running ps/2 mice and they all use the same commands to the system (unless uve got one of those gay 5button mice :P)12:37
nbound90% of us*12:37
ubuntuno...12:37
mcdenyermwe i was just thinking since linux is case sensitive12:38
mcdenyermwe ok so winecfg is running now what?12:38
ubuntui get no red light from the device12:38
mwemcdenyer: I think in wine it doesn't matter12:38
mcdenyermwe, oik what now?12:38
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mwemcdenyer: set up the dll files like the tutorial says12:38
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ubuntuperhaps i'll try and get some driver from trust12:38
nboundubuntu, thats usually means its dead ;) try jiggling the plug, or turning ur system off and replugging12:38
mwemcdenyer: the libraries tab12:39
mcdenyermwe i did i just stuck them in the system foldeer12:39
dracflamlocanyone know how to get a unichrome pro working in ubuntu with full accel?12:39
NCLife_jason, the gdesklets-data package that is on synaptic, is it worthy to install? how can i deinstall it if i dont like it12:39
mwemcdenyer: you need to configure12:39
mwemcdenyer: like the tutorial says12:39
nboundubuntu, trust would just be a company relabeling the mouse12:39
ubuntuwell, i rebooted from windoze, so it wasn't moved anyway...12:39
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mwemcdenyer: you need to do what it says12:39
mcdenyermwe hmm dont remeber that12:39
mwemcdenyer: read again12:39
ubuntuit says ami mouse 2505 optical12:40
cello_raspa few questions: i have just reinstalled and am wondering: what happened to the timer applet? and the values-based nic monitor? and how do i get thunderbird to accept my old profile info?12:40
mwemcdenyer: it says to edit .wine/config. this is what you do instead in the new wine12:40
nboundmwe, you wouldnt happen to know the file that controls how usb devices are mounted?12:40
poimenwhat packages I need to Install to view h264  video?12:40
ubuntuany keyboard shortcut to maximize this window, pls?12:40
_jasonNCLife: same way you install it, just right click and choose 'remove' or 'install' (can't remember which)12:40
mwenbound: hotplug is taking care of mine12:40
nboundubuntu, ALT+F912:41
_jasonNCLife: s/install/uninstall12:41
mwenbound: I just plug in the usb device and it gets mounted automagically12:41
nboundOOOPS12:41
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McJerryif someone has sent me raw partition data and in a file name.hda1 and i want to put that data on /dev/hda1 how would I?12:41
ubuntulol12:41
mcdenyermwe wait why am i following the tut if im not supposed to do what is says?12:41
_jasonwell that wouldn't work but you get the idea12:41
nboundubuntu ALT+f1012:41
mwemcdenyer: because the rest is valid12:41
ubuntuoh yeah!12:41
ubuntufinally :)12:41
nboundmwe, yeah so is mine, but it loads with wrong settings12:41
Halaihi wondering if i can get some help updating my open office and firefox and then adding shortcuts to my gui (launcher/desktop)12:42
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nboundmwe, and i have to remount to get it to work properly12:42
mcdenyermwe, ok what step number is it that im missing12:42
mcdenyermwe, so i know where to look12:42
linux_user400354i installed wu-ftp on ubuntu. is there something i have to do before my computer can be used for ftp?12:42
mwemcdenyer: I don't remember 2 something I think. where it tells you to install the dll files12:42
cello_raspo well12:42
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mcdenyermwe, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?page=1&articleid=1712:43
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set!compiling12:43
ubotuCompiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware12:43
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mcdenyermwe well there s alot of stuff i skipped cuz it was one or the other12:43
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nullhello12:43
nulljust installed breezy12:43
NCLifethanks _jason12:44
Ryan450hey gang12:44
mwemcdenyer: 2.212:44
nullwhats the default root password ?12:44
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_jasonubotu: tell null about root12:44
cmpalmernull: the root account is inacctive12:44
timmy screen update rate is horrible, my 3d graphics on my screensaver run nice but my window update rate is horrible is there any way to speed it u12:44
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nboundtim, what drivers u using?12:44
tristanmikewhen installing java on Breezy are the gcc errors normal?12:44
mcdenyermwe ok the hl2.reg part?12:44
Halaihi wondering if i can get some help updating my open office and firefox and then adding shortcuts to my gui (launcher/desktop), i'm not really sure where i'm supposed to be extracting the installers?12:44
mwemcdenyer: you need to add the native, builtin order in winecfg12:44
mwemcdenyer: no12:45
_jasontristanmike: how are you installing java?  errors are probably not normal12:45
tristanmike_jason, via the wiki12:45
Ryan450just downloaded and installed ubuntu, its been a while since I last played around with linux.. anybody mind pointing me to apt repositories source file? (also need to know what repositories would be good to add for updated software)12:45
y_o_uevening ladies and gents. i am a linux/kubuntu noob trying to get my wireless usb NIC to work on kubuntu. i have gotten the drivers installed with ndiswrapper and the kwifimanger picks up my card and network fine, but as for connecting to google, that is not working. i just need some direction of what to do or where to look for some more guidance. thanks!12:45
mwemcdenyer: sorry12:45
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mwemcdenyer: that was wrong12:45
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_jasontristanmike: if you don't want to be bothered with compiling it yourself, there are readymade java deb's available12:45
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nboundtim, what drivers u using?12:45
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mwemcdenyer: it's 3.2.1 you need to do all it says including installing dcom9812:46
mcdenyermwe well i created the hl2.reg file in my home folder and then edited and thats it12:46
cmpalmerRyan450: /etc/apt/sources.list12:46
timnvidia ones from synaptec12:46
_jasonubotu: tell tristanmike about javadebs12:46
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mcdenyermwe but it says u dont need it with tthe latest wine12:46
nboundtim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-settings"12:46
tristanmike_jason, yeah, I'm checking it out now12:46
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nboundtim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable"12:47
mcdenyermwe above that section is says note: u dont need this with the latest wine so u can skip it12:47
nboundscrub the first one :P12:47
timno let me try that12:47
mwemcdenyer: sorry then. forget it12:47
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cmpalmerRyan450: uncomment universe if you want more packages available to you12:47
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nboundtim, yeah u need to do that to enable the drivers =P12:47
mcdenyermwe are u registered on this irc?12:47
mwemcdenyer: I remember doing it a while back12:47
y_o_uno one else have any skills getting a wifi card working in kubuntu willing to share?12:47
mwemcdenyer: yeah12:47
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mcdenyermwe if so pm me so i can paste there error i got12:47
nboundtim, then restart and all should be fine12:47
mwemcdenyer: You had to do it when I did it12:47
schlomoHi12:48
mwemcdenyer: ok12:48
schlomousing 2.6.12-9-386 kernel on Breezy12:48
null_jason, err.. the update manager thing doesn;t work12:48
schlomotrying to install ATI driver12:48
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timsays command not found12:48
nboundschlomo fglrx12:48
_jasonnull: sorry, what are you referring to?12:48
gnomefreaknull the update manger is broken on dapper :)12:48
timroot@ubuntu:/home/tim # sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable12:48
timsudo: nvidia-glx-settings: command not found12:48
timroot@ubuntu:/home/tim #12:48
schlomobut I have an error Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module! when modprobe fglrx12:48
mcdenyermsg mwe hey12:48
gnomefreakit crashes :)12:48
nboundtim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"12:48
nboundtim, maybe thats it :P12:49
mcdenyer!pm12:49
nullit asks for the root password but entering the _user_  password works12:49
ubotu[pm]  Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.12:49
schlomowe can't use fglrx module in  2.6.12-9-386 ?12:49
nulldunno why it says 'enter root password' then!!12:49
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nboundschlomo, should be able to?12:49
gnomefreaknull thats not broken its supposed to work with user password12:49
_jasonnull: mine says 'please enter your password'12:49
mcdenyerisnt it /msg nick to pm someone?12:49
schlomonbound : nope modprobe failed12:49
SEJeffubotu, tell null about sudo12:49
gnomefreakmcdenyer: yes12:49
nullerr.. i know about sudo and i just changed the root pwd too..12:50
nboundubotu tell schlomo about ati12:50
navaronemcdenyer, you need to be registered to send pm's tho12:50
gnomefreak_jason: they all just ask for password not root12:50
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mcdenyernavarone, hwo do i registe?R12:50
nullanyway, it clearly says 'enter root password' and bails when the root pwd is put12:50
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nboundschlomo, try those links12:50
mcdenyermwe hey ive got to go ill be back in a few12:50
mwemcdenyer: yes. you need to be registered and identified12:50
setwhere does firefox executable hang out?12:50
schlomonbound : which ?*12:50
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timthanks nbound need to reboot12:50
mcdenyermwe, got to take trash out12:50
_jasonnull: that may be because you enabled the root account-- which is disabled for a reason12:50
nboundtim yep reboot12:50
vbgunzI hate this... Something is wrong with my mount... I cannot mount my USB drive and I really do not wish to reboot12:51
nboundschlomo, check ur pms12:51
navaronemcdenyer, you msg nickserv like this /msg nickserv register <password> < -- where password is the pass you will need to use the current nick12:51
nboundpm's*12:51
schlomonbound :yep12:51
schlomonbound :thanks12:51
vbgunzcan someone help me mount my USB drive... It always mounts *but* when it does this, logging in and out doesn't even work... Please, someone help!12:51
null_jason, ever since i installed ubuntu, it always has said 'enter root password' when clicking on the updates thingy on the panel12:51
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=== gnomefreak used to use the <password> :(
nboundschlomo, no worries mate =)12:51
metalohey everyone12:51
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nullwhich is why i first asked whats the default root passwd when i came here!12:51
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_jasonnull: did you do a server install?12:51
nullnope12:51
navaronegnomefreak, you use biometrics now? <s>12:51
metaloim having some problenms with a sony vaio laptop... more specifically its wireless12:51
j2daoshwhat do you mean vbgunz12:51
gnomefreaknavarone: no12:52
hyphenatednull: are you sure it asks for the root password, not your password?12:52
metalosince the day ive been using it the wifi suddenly switched off twice already12:52
_jasonnull: I don't have the updates thing right now so i can't check that.  Does opening synaptic mention 'root'?12:52
schlomonbound : already what is in the doc12:52
metaloand i have no clue why. anyone can give me hints on how i can find out?12:52
cello_rasphi _jason. i reinstalled ubuntu if you remember. ported over the user profile, and now i can't start synaptic. "sudo synaptic" on the command line returns nothin12:52
gnomefreaknull same as gksudo it asks for password i dont even think it says "enter"12:52
null_jason, haven't tried synaptic yet12:52
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setwhere do I find the placement for firefox executable file?12:52
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nboundschlomo, hmmm well u could update to the newer kernel12:53
_jasoncello_rasp: what does 'groups' return?12:53
kiwipoometalo: anything in /var/log/syslog ?12:53
metalokiwipoo: ill check that right away12:53
cello_rasp_jason: my username12:53
_jasoncello_rasp: are you using the user you created during install?12:53
DRK13\lol/12:53
nullanyway, are all users added to the admin group?12:53
nullthats a borken system iirc12:53
cello_rasp_jason: no...12:53
DRK138=========D12:53
hyphenatedonly the initial user, null12:53
kiwipoometalo: which dist are you on?  Breezy?12:54
nullhyphenated, ok. good12:54
Ryan450is there anyway to reset the root password? I dont recall the installation prompting me to enter one, and I cannot log into root via terminal with the "su" command :S12:54
ubuntu FFS...trust have no unix drivers12:54
_jasonnull: only the one you created during install, new users you'll have to add12:54
kiwipooRyan450: sudo su -??12:54
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gnomefreakubotu tell Ryan450about sudoroot12:54
metalokiwipoo: yup, wifi working find when i first configured it. but suddenly stopped working a few minutes ago12:54
cello_rasp_jason: i see. if i delete that initial user will spm exec pass over to my current username?12:54
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NCLifeum, a silly question.. where can i find nice toolbars , or where do all the people get their big, transparent and nice toolbars12:54
_jasonkiwipoo: no, use sudo -i or sudo -s to get a root terminal12:54
metalokiwipoo: last time reboot helped. but not this time..12:54
NCLifefrom gdesklets?12:54
gnomefreakubotu tell Ryan450about root12:54
_jasoncello_rasp: no12:54
cello_raspdamn12:54
hyphenatedmetalo: is it an intel wireless thing?12:54
gnomefreakwtf is wrong with ubotu?12:55
hyphenatedmetalo: ie.. ipw2200 driver?12:55
_jasoncello_rasp: login with the user that has sudo access and do 'adduser your_new_user admin'12:55
metalohyphenated: i think so12:55
Ryan450there we go, thank you :)12:55
nboundubuntu, of course they dont, all mice use the same commands to the system12:55
cello_raspahhhhhh thank _jason B)12:55
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cello_rasplaters :)12:55
ToRTuReD_Xevenin12:55
ToRTuReD_Xerm need a little help guys, i need to mount my 2nd hard drive12:55
kiwipoometalo: pcmcia?12:55
hyphenatedmetalo: the driver might have 'crashed'. It's happened for me. in a shell, I type in 'dmesg' and the last few lines are nasty messages12:56
metalokiwipoo: no, onboard with the vaio12:56
nboundubuntu, those drivers just add a frontend in windows....12:56
kiwipoolucky fella12:56
ubuntui see12:56
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navaroneToRTuReD_X, is the drive brand new with nothing on it?12:56
kiwipoogo to System -> Admin -> Networking12:56
ToRTuReD_Xnavarone, no12:56
ubuntui replugged it in, i saw the laser for 1 sec ans then dad again12:56
ubuntudead*12:56
nboundubuntu, are you SURE it works in windblows?12:57
ToRTuReD_Xit's an old hard drive i need so i can download windows drivers so i can reinstall windows12:57
ToRTuReD_X<_<12:57
ubuntuyes i am12:57
navaroneToRTuReD_X, could you copy and paste your fstab in pastebin for us to see what your setup is12:57
nerochiaroi have a problem with an USB hard disk. when i plug it in, the system mounts it, but read only. any idea on why this is happening ?12:57
ToRTuReD_Xlmao12:57
kiwipoothen deactivate and activate the wlan0 device12:57
ToRTuReD_Xbeen a while since i've used ubuntu12:57
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ToRTuReD_Xwanna give me a walk through12:57
kiwipooif the wlan0 device is not there, then we have a problem12:57
vbgunzOMG. I hate this. Nothing works... I try sudo umount -f /dev/sdf1 OR /media/NW-HD1 and nothing umounts or mounts... I cannot mount my USB drive... It always mounts *but* when it acts up it is like only a reboot will fix it... I don't want to reboot, this is not Windows... I do not know how to fix it :(12:57
metalohyphenated: nothing much in dmesg. just [4294929.198000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present12:57
kiwipooanything to do with wlan0?12:58
navaroneToRTuReD_X, your fstab is in /etc folder...copy it and paste contents to pastebin12:58
navarone!pastebin12:58
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:58
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vbgunzI go to disk manager to see if I can see it there... The disk manager window never ever loads up.... Just the icon of the circle waiting but the GUI seems frozen in wait... Anyone know what this is? It is horrible!12:58
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nboundubuntu, coz the light off is usualy its way of telling you, "im dead"12:59
ubuntuwell.. if i turn off the pc and then log in to windows it's gonna be working12:59
timthanks nbound seems to be running a lot better12:59
ubuntusame ways it goes with mandrake12:59
nboundtim, no worries mate =)12:59
ToRTuReD_Xnavarone, http://tx.pastebin.com/51074912:59
ubuntuwhen i load it it's dead. i turn off, turn on, log in to win and works again01:00
nboundubuntu, u sure u set up ubuntu for usb mouse?01:00
nboundi mean ps201:00
vbgunzhow do I restart the disk service?01:00
vbgunzplease someone tell me how to restart this server?01:00
vbgunzthe disk manager or what ever it is] 01:00
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metalohyphenated kiwipoo i got something in /var/log/messages01:00
ubuntuwell, it was auto and when i reconf'd X i didn't see any ps/2 usb option01:00
metalohyphenated kiwipoo Jan 17 23:16:28 localhost kernel: [4299959.195000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.01:01
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navaroneToRTuReD_X, I assume you are only using this drive to store files for windows install?01:01
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kiwipoosounds like it,01:01
kiwipoowhat model vaio?01:01
nboundubuntu, there should have been an option =/ (i think)01:01
ToRTuReD_Xnavarone, nah it's my storage drive in general01:01
ubuntuok I'll try x reconf again01:01
nerochiaroalso. is there anyone that knows why my USB hard disk now gets automouned at /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 instead of the usual location under /media ?01:01
metalokiwipoo: vgn-a170b01:01
nboundanyone know if u can put hotpluggable devices in ur fstab????01:02
Alinuxpitti ?01:02
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navaroneokay ToRTuReD_X could you run sudo fdisk -l in terminala nd paste contents?01:02
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CanYouHelpMePlznbound: you can, my ipod is in fstab01:02
nboundCanYouHelpMePlz, thx now my PSP will be in there :P01:02
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ubuntuok, first question is 3-button emulation01:03
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_jasonubuntu: that's not a question :)01:03
metalokiwipoo: should i recompile the drivers? cause those one i use now are ones that came with breezy i think01:03
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nboundubuntu, no u dont want that01:03
ubuntuenable scroll events?01:04
nboundubuntu, yep01:04
ToRTuReD_Xnavarone, http://tx.pastebin.com/51075601:04
ubuntuno other mouse questions01:04
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ubuntui get some paragraphs about VESA etc01:04
nboundhmmmm01:04
freedomhi01:04
nboundubuntu, well i must say that im stumped01:05
nboundlol01:05
ToRTuReD_Xi know /dev/hdb1 is the drive01:05
ToRTuReD_Xit's just the mounting that confuses me01:05
ubuntunow X.org modules conf01:05
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navaroneToRTuReD_X, easiest thing for you to do is go here..01:05
nboundCanYouHelpMePlz, what did u put in for ur ipod?01:05
navarone!diskmounter01:05
ubotusomebody said diskmounter was to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter01:05
blownouthey guys i have a question01:05
drac-laptopgod the ubuntu update servers are slow01:05
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nboundblownout, just ask :p01:05
Rubinwhere would i ask a question about a problem compiling a universe package from deb-src?01:06
blownouthow do you get something to start up when u start your system,  something like a simple script01:06
null!easysource01:06
kiwipoometalo: that's not really the ubuntu way, but if you feel up to it.01:06
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:06
nboundCanYouHelpMePlz, what did u put in for ur ipod?????01:06
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__DwayneOk..I have a curious question..I just tried to run 'make' in ndiswrapper on my laptop, and it halted because it couldn't find the kernel source in '/lib/modules/2.x.x.x'  any thoughts??01:06
ubuntuoh man...why oh why? a micro$oft mouse would have worked :(01:06
kiwipoowhat does lsmod tell you, is the module still loaded?01:06
navaroneToRTuReD_X, did you get diskmounter url?01:06
Unitywhat are the bare minimum packages i should install to get kde? i don't want to install all of kubuntu-desktop i don't need most of that stuff01:06
metalokiwipoo: yes i know that... but i like my software up to date... and the problem with ubuntu is that the less used packages are not very up to date... :\01:07
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mweUnity: kdebase01:07
blownoutlike where is the autoexec.bat01:07
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Rubinblownout: /etc/init.d/*01:07
Unitymwe: i don't need kdesktop or kdm?01:07
wastrelu b u n t u01:07
mcdenyermwe ok back01:07
mweUnity: kdebase-bin in fact01:07
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metalokiwipoo: if the newer version solves my problem, then itll take ages to wait for the official package01:07
jesse_cool5i just installed my printer but it seems when i goto print through open office that it defualts to a5 page size i try changing it but it still printes out wrong01:07
theneonshadowhow do i install w32codecs01:07
mweUnity: you can stick with gdm if you like01:07
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mweUnity: or install kdm if you want01:08
bimberiblownout: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh01:08
mcdenyermwe now what do i need to do with winecfg running?01:08
wastreljesse_cool5, ooh i have same prob - lemmie know if you figure it out01:08
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kiwipoometalo: I know,01:08
__DwayneOk..I have a curious question..I just tried to run 'make' in ndiswrapper on my laptop, and it halted because it couldn't find the kernel source in '/lib/modules/2.x.x.x'  any thoughts??01:08
mwemcdenyer: you don't need it. I missed that you don't need it in the new wine01:08
wastreli think because a5 is on the top of the list, it's the default01:08
setcompiling: when you end up installing 200 additional applications01:08
ToRTuReD_Xnavarone, thanks that worked a charm :)01:08
martin_hi can anyone tell me how to disable the password prompt that comes up whenever I open my laptop lid01:08
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kiwipooI'm tempted by gentoo (again), but can't afford the time01:08
navaroneno prob ToRTuReD_X01:08
jesse_cool5wastrel, shall do im playing around with a lot of settings01:09
metalokiwipoo: how do i open .tgz files in here?... arent they a bit slackware specific?01:09
theneonshadowquick how do i install the w32codecs from my destop01:09
set!w32codecs01:09
mcdenyermwe lol dang so i did everyhitng right and it doesnt work ;p01:09
ubotuwell, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:09
kiwipootar -pzxf filename01:09
_jasonset: nicely done, very quick :)01:09
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metalokiwipoo: ok nvm, tar solved it :P01:09
Unitymwe: and i want to start kde in a new display, how would i startx without having it go into gnome?01:09
metalokiwipoo: ah thanks :P01:09
set_jason, I'm trying to learn :)01:09
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mweUnity: I don't use gnome but there's a new login somewhere in the menus01:10
mwemcdenyer: you said steam stalled upon installing01:10
_jasonUnity: it's under apps -> system tools -> new login01:10
mcdenyermwe yeah it just cant start up01:10
theneonshadowok so after i do the 'cd ~/Desktop01:10
theneonshadowsudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb' to unpac the w32codecs am i done01:10
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glacioushello01:11
_jasontheneonshadow: yep01:11
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mwemcdenyer: did install to 100%?01:11
mwemcdenyer: or not start01:11
theneonshadowsweet, so i can watch the vids now?01:11
mcdenyermwe yes how do u close a window in ubntu when it wont close like its frozen01:11
_jasontheneonshadow: hopefully :)01:11
theneonshadowk thanks01:11
ubuntubyebye01:11
glaciousso I got my SATA drive to show up during install on Dapper!! :)01:11
kiwipooUnity: install xnest?01:11
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glaciousnow i just need a way to get my refresh rate to change from 85.01:12
mcdenyermwe it installed to 100 and then i tried running it and it started t oupdate steam and then it stop and just freezes and i have theses errors in terminal01:12
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glaciousis there a way to change your refresh rate in 6.04?  All thats listed is 85.01:12
blownouthow do i add it in as a rc run level?01:12
mcdenyermwe and now steam is running and is froze and icant close the window01:12
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mwemcdenyer: I guess you should try what the tutorial suggests01:12
mcdenyermwe is there a way for me to stop it?01:12
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Unity_jason: the new login says something about me needing to be in console mode01:13
mwemcdenyer: killall wine-preloader01:13
mcdenyermwe what does it suggesTY?01:13
naer_dinsulWhat package do I need for the kernel sources for my kernel?01:13
Unity_jason: i want to just open a new display with the welcome screen, how can i do that?01:13
mcdenyermwe hmm dont remeb r that part01:13
mwemcdenyer: this http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?appId=1163&versionId=1554&threadId=1020401:13
martin_how do i disable to password prompt when returning from the screensaver01:13
mwemcdenyer: it says to follow that if the update stalls01:13
bimberinaer_dinsul: do you want to compile the kernel?01:13
setcan anyone help me with solving this?... http://pastebin.com/51076601:14
wastrelmartin_, it's in system->preferences->screensaver01:14
naer_dinsulbimberi:  No, I'm trying to install TrueCrypt from source, and it requires the kernel sources to compile against.01:14
mcdenyermwe well it doesnt really even get to the update u see01:14
glaciousso there is no way to change your monitor's refresh from 85hz if that is the only mode listed?01:14
tristanmikeupon inspection, it seems that I have libdvdcss2 version 1.2.5-1 but there is a deb for 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb, should I just install the deb? or remove the old one, and install the new one, or don't worry about it?01:14
mcdenyermwe in the tut it says that alot of time itll freeze at 27 percent01:14
glaciousthere are multiple resolutions, just one refresh :(01:14
mcdenyermwe but mine doest even get to the actual update01:15
metalowhy dont i have /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/ ?01:15
wastrelmartin_, uncheck the "lock screen after" checkbox.01:15
nullis kde available from universe?01:15
mcdenyermwe i htink it might be a bad shlwapi01:15
mweset: install libgtk2.0-dev01:15
nullwhats multiverse?01:15
martin_oh wait do i have to check that lock screen box and set it to 0 minutes? that's kinda counter-intuitive01:15
wastrelmartin_,  you have to restart the screensaver daemon for changes to take effect01:15
bimberinaer_dinsul: you probably only need the headers - "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname-r)", for the full source install "linux-tree"01:15
martin_it was unchecked01:15
wastrelmartin_, file->restart daemon01:15
Unitywhat command would i issue to open a new Xorg with the welcome screen in it?01:15
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naer_dinsulbimberi:  Thanks...  I'll try that...01:15
mcdenyermwe i need to restart cuaser i cant close steam01:15
mcdenyermwe brb01:15
bimberinaer_dinsul: np :)01:15
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kiwipoometalo: have you installed linux-source?01:16
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rendihelllpp01:16
rendiReading package lists... Done01:16
rendiW: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: Could not execute /usr/bin/gpgv to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)01:16
metalokiwipoo: oh right, i thought it was the headers... thanks01:16
jesse_cool5!w32codecs01:16
ubotuit has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install01:16
martin_it didn't work01:16
martin_it was unchecked01:16
martin_i checked it, restarted, unchecked it again, restarted and it still prompts me when I close and open my lid01:17
setmwe: thanks :)01:17
maddashI've got a little problem with ipw2200; it consistently causes a kernel-panic whenever I try downloading via bittorrent and accessing the internet through firefox...can anyone help?01:17
hyphenatednull: you can install KDE by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' package. it should be in main01:17
wastrelhm i think that's a different thing... suspend w/ laptopy kindof thing... i dunno from laptops01:17
jrattner1I'm installing ubuntu on my Dad's server tomorrow, is there any howto regarding POP accounts, I want to set up an employee email system01:18
metalokiwipoo: is it: sudo apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 ?01:18
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martin_yeah I think it has something to do with the power settings but I have it set to do nothing when I close the lif01:18
martin_*lid01:18
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hyphenatedmetalo: you don't need 'sudo' for downloading source packages01:18
mcdenyerhey how do i registeR?01:19
nullhyphenated, will i get kde 3.5 ?01:19
nullor for that i need to add some repos for kbuntu or something?01:19
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mcdenyer!register01:19
uboturegister is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))01:19
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hyphenatednull: you won't need to add any repositories01:19
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mwemcdenyer:01:19
hyphenatednull: and the version you get depends on which ubuntu release you're using01:19
mwemcdenyer: it says "Steam may crash when updating at 27%. If it does so, follow the instructions described on"01:19
kiwipoosudo apt-get install linux-source (I think it's a holder package pointing to the actual kernel you have installed)01:19
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metalohyphenated: right right.01:20
nullhyphenated, breezy01:20
mwemcdenyer: see the updating part?01:20
mcdenyermwe yeah and i dont crash at 2701:20
metalokiwipoo: i see, thanks01:20
mcdenyermwe i dont update at all01:20
nullhyphenated, so i don;t need to add any repo and can just install kbuntu-desktop01:20
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mcdenyermwe and i have errors in temrinal i think i need to fix01:20
hyphenatednull: if you want to check the details, go to packages.ubuntu.com01:20
bimberijrattner1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MailServer01:20
kiwipooit will install the source in /usr/src01:20
mwemcdenyer: then paste them01:20
rbennettcan someone help me fix firefox...01:20
hyphenatednull: if you spell it right, yes ;-)01:20
mwemcdenyer: pastebin01:20
mcdenyergnomefreak hey how do i register so i can pm01:20
rbennetti tried to install 1.5 from a website...01:20
mwemcdenyer: are you regisered?01:21
nullhyphenated, lol.. :)01:21
mcdenyermwe working on it01:21
rbennettanyway...darn thing won't launch now01:21
mwemcdenyer: and identified?01:21
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mwemcdenyer: _you_ need to be registered to /msg someone01:21
mwemcdenyer: not them01:21
mcdenyermwe i know01:21
metalokiwipoo: is it an alternative to cd /usr/src and apt-get source kernel-image-blabla?01:21
mcdenyermwe im working on getting reigsterd01:21
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Ryan450anybody know sound well here? my sound is not working, sadly I've no idea where to start (been away from linux desktops for way too long)01:22
maddashgnome-btdownload keeps causing a kernel-panic; can someone help?01:22
anunesjr_hello01:22
mwemcdenyer: or just use the pastebin01:22
kiwipooit will just pull in the kernel source + any ubuntu specific patches (is that what you mean?)01:23
hyphenatedmaddash: a kernel panic? that's pretty heavy. what messages do you get?01:23
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mwemcdenyer: you didn't need to reboot to kill steam01:23
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Dreamglideri get this douring boot "[4294732.043000]  <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"01:23
Dreamglideris it fixable ?01:23
kiwipooupon re-reading your question, yes01:23
jesse_cool5is it possible to have it use my speakers instead of that crappy internal beep?01:23
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kiwipoobut it will update as you install a new version of the linux-kernel01:23
nullhyphenated, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php   <-- sya si need to add to sources list01:24
maddashhyphenated: I can only receive messages when i a) start bittorrent and then b) quickly switch to ctrl+alt+f2 mode01:24
metalokiwipoo: would you mind prefixing with my nick please? its sometimes difficult to find what you say01:24
mwejesse_cool5: you can in kde. also you can always disable the annoying beep at least01:24
maddashhyphenated: and I don't really know how to record the error message, because after the error info is displayed, the system freezes up01:24
hyphenatedmaddash: tricky. they don't go into any of the log files in /var/log ?01:24
jesse_cool5mwe, im using gnome tho01:24
mwejesse_cool5: you can still disable the beep01:25
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kiwipoometalo: sorry01:25
wastreldisable the beep01:25
hyphenatednull: that's to get v3.5, because it's not breezy's default version01:25
maddashhyphenated: checking now01:25
metalokiwipoo: np :P01:25
nullhyphenated, ah ok..01:25
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mwejesse_cool5: when do you get the beep? in the terminal?01:26
VeRiTToHI01:26
nullhyphenated, so if i add this source to my sources list, how will synaptic know to get the new version of kubuntu-desktop instead of the older version from main ?01:26
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Crell42Strange problem.  I'm trying to nmap a server on my local network, but for some reason nmap keeps complaining about the netmask.  nmap -v 192.168.1.100 --That should be a valid command, right?01:26
metalokiwipoo: i did what i said and still dont have that /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build directory...01:26
Ryan450looking over my Device Manager, I see its detected my SB Live! EMU10K1 sound card, but when I go to the prefrences/sound there is no device to choose from in that menu. anybody know possible solutions?01:26
jesse_cool5mwe, or when an error box comes up01:26
theneonshadowwheres a good site that i can download a linux driver for a cannon bjc-2110 printer01:27
drac-laptopRyan450, in a terminal, run: lsmod | grep emu10k101:27
mcdenyermwe i posted my error in that pm01:27
mwejesse_cool5: I don't know about the error box. I think you can configure it in the settings somewhere01:27
_jasonubotu: tell theneonshadow about print01:27
wastreltheneonshadow, did you try linuxprinting.org?01:27
mwemcdenyer: did get any pm01:27
jesse_cool5mwe, lol im thinking of just ripping the thing out01:27
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mwejesse_cool5: in /etc/inputrc uncomment 'set bell-style none' to get rid of the bash beep01:27
Ryan450drac-laptop: k, did that.. did you want me to send you that output in external window? (dont want to flood channel)01:28
mwejesse_cool5: yeah :|01:28
mwejesse_cool5: just remove the connector from the mobo01:28
drac-laptopRyan450, if it output a bunch o stuff then it should be working. have you run alsamixer?01:28
mwejesse_cool5: I did that oncy because it pissed me off01:28
Ryan450drac-laptop: not yet, how do I start that?01:28
drac-laptopRyan450, it may also be using OSS drivers. why dont you go to System->Prefernces->Multimedia systems selector and choose OSS for both01:29
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drac-laptopand try playing something ith xmms01:29
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mcdenyermwe yes i recieved it now look at it....01:29
mwemcdenyer: I didn't get any pm from you01:30
mcdenyermwe click on the Mcdenyer right under trhe place where you type your chat messages01:30
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jesse_cool5mwe, there isnt that line in the file01:30
kiwipoometalo: have you seen http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200+source01:31
Unityhow do i start kde from the console?01:31
Ryan450drac-laptop: k, input was set to OSS, just switched my output to OSS as well, but when I hit the test I get "Failed to construct test piple for 'OSS - Open Sound System' "01:31
drac-laptopwhat if you choose ALSA?01:31
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maddashhyphenated: there's nothing in the system logs01:31
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metalokiwipoo: yes, ive got that open, but just read through it...01:31
wastrelUnity, startx  ?01:31
Ryan450drac-laptop: same thing01:31
Unitywastrel: that goes into gnome01:31
drac-laptopdo this for me: ls -l /dev/dsp01:31
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wastrelUnity, try kde-start  ...01:32
Ryan450drac-laptop: ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory01:32
wastrelit's been a while since i fooled around with kde01:32
jesse_cool5mwe, well that fixes the beep in the terminal01:32
mcdenyerstop01:32
metalokiwipoo: ill do what they say in the article then, thanks for drawing my attention back to it :P01:32
Unitywastrel: that commad was not found01:32
wastrelheh i dunno01:32
jesse_cool5mwe, but i still get the beep whenin openoffice and it says do you want to save or discard01:32
drac-laptopRyan450, ok so then it isnt setup properly. hmm. try: (as root) modprobe snd-emu10k101:32
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phiber_opticanyone knows how to install limewire?01:33
wastrelphiber_optic, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella01:33
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kiwipoometalo: no problem, unfortunately don't have the hardware to compare.  Best of luck01:33
Unityubotu tell phiber_optic about limwire01:33
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metalokiwipoo: thanks :] 01:33
phiber_opticubotu tell phiber_optic about limewire01:33
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swat_where can i talk about issues with develeopment ubuntu?01:34
Ryan450drac-laptop: dang, just asked this not long ago either.. su - then pass isnt working for me.. what parameter did I have to feed it again?01:34
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gnomefreakswat_: did you file bugs?01:35
drac-laptopRyan450, ok so then it isnt setup properly. hmm. try: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k101:35
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swat_gnomefreak: i'm not sure if it is a bug you see01:35
Ryan450drac-laptop: k, did that01:35
drac-laptopdo: lsmod | grep snd01:35
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drac-laptoppaste the line here. if its multiple lines PM me01:36
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Ryan450drac-laptop: lots of stuff for output..01:36
pansonichow do you install a .deb01:37
jesse_cool5to install xine do i need to add other repositories?01:37
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TomaszLpansonic: sudo dpkg -i package.deb01:37
phiber_opticpansonic sudo dpkg -i pack name01:37
pansonicthanks guys01:37
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_jasonjesse_cool5: no, are you looking for actual xine or totem-xine01:37
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bimberiswat_: there is #ubuntu-devel or the mailing list ( http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel )01:38
y_o_uhello all, quick question. can you enable a wireless card via the command line, or is it in the gui only? having problems with the network settings window. thanks01:38
jesse_cool5_jason, which is better?01:38
Peggerwhat do people use to make netowrk maps?01:38
_jasonjesse_cool5: they are the same I suppose.  Totem-xine is just totem but with the xine backend.  xine-ui is umm, I'll send you a nice link with pictures :)  (I would try them both if I were you and keep the one I liked)01:39
_jasonubotu: tell jesse_cool5 about multimedia01:39
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jesse_cool5good ol bot01:39
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christopherHello, I am new to ubuntu/debian and would like to know how to install an already downloads .deb file with apt-get01:41
y_o_uhello all, quick question. can you enable a wireless card via the command line, or is it in the gui only? having problems with the network settings window. thanks01:41
wastrely_o_u, i've never managed to get wifi working on the cli, i use the gui dealy01:41
christophercorrection: downloaded01:41
jesse_cool5_jason, what would be the best program for streaming music?01:42
blackschristopher, sudo dpkg -i file.deb01:42
metalochristopher: sudp dpkg -i filename01:42
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christopherok thanks01:42
maddashhyphenated: kernel panics again when I try updating the kernel image (won't allow completion of download);01:42
y_o_uwastrel: ever have a problem with the gui? when i click the administrator mode button, it asks for password, i enter it, it seems to work, then goes back to asking me to hit the administrator mode button. cant figure that out01:42
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maddashhyphenated: is there any way for me to record the error message?01:42
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eggmanHello01:43
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_jasonjesse_cool5: personally, I like mplayer.  But totem-xine and vlc are good choices as well01:44
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eggmanI need some help with Xorg01:44
jhunitahello01:44
_jason!helpme01:44
ubotuIf you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.01:44
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Ryan450drac-laptop: Still around man? (just checkin, silent treatment is scaring me :S)01:44
hyphenatedmaddash: not really.01:44
jesse_cool5_jason,  ok thx01:44
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eggmani have a forum post which explains my situation01:44
mcdenyerhey anyone here ever install steam?01:45
_jasonubotu: tell eggman about ask01:45
wastrely_o_u, i don't have a laptop anymore :]    but i don't recall having that prob...01:45
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eggmani dont have a link as im using xchat-text but if you look for my nam01:45
eggmanon the forums you can find it01:45
drac-laptopRyan450, oh, yea sorry. workin on my own comp too =) but yea now try and run "alsamixer" in a terminal01:46
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Ryan450drac-laptop:no worries :)..01:46
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y_o_uwastrel: thanks anyways01:46
phiber_opticis limewire better than gtk-gnutella?01:46
eggmanThe problem is I installed the nvidia driver with the wiki instructions and now my xserver wont start01:46
Ryan450drac-laptop: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory01:46
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drac-laptopRyan450, damn, weird. i dunno what to do beyond that. have you checked the ubuntu wiki/forums?01:47
drac-laptopits a very common card01:47
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ettkommanollhi dudes i'm just wondering if anyone could just tell me how to apt-get an ftp client?01:47
eggmanuse fireftp01:47
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phiber_opticis limewire better than gtk-gnutella?01:47
y_o_uis it possible to login to kubuntu as root anyone?01:47
eggmanits an extension for firefox01:47
ettkommanolleggman; allright, howto?01:48
Ryan450drac-laptop: not yet, I always try irc room first01:48
bimberiettkommanoll: or use nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server...01:48
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eggmanget it from the firefox extensions page01:48
eggmanor just search the firefox site for it01:48
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theneonshadowhow do i install a .tar.gz driver01:49
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KonvIRChi01:49
ettkommanollconnect to server-> didnt work out at all i've alreay tested it..01:49
phiber_optichow can I install java? sudo apt-get install java?01:49
ettkommanollallright i hopa fireftp will do the trick!01:49
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eggmanas do i01:49
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y_o_uis it possible to login to kubuntu as root anyone?01:49
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jhunitam trying to add user but its not accepting my password.. how can i resolve this?01:50
theneonshadowhow do i install a .tar.gz driver for a printer01:50
Ryan450drac-laptop: Thnx for your time + suggestions.. this ones got me stumped too.. will hit the forums and see what they can come up with.. if you have a link handy that'll save me a little bit of search time :P01:50
timfrostubotu, tell y_o_u about root01:50
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toko123timfrost, tellme about root too01:50
KonvIRChow I can unlock APT database?01:50
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theneonshadowhow do i install a .tar.gz or .ppc.dmg driver for a printer01:50
blacksKonvIRC, make sure you don't have synaptic or the updater thingee open01:51
Toba|BSDhey... I changed some video hardware01:51
timfrost!root01:51
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.01:51
Toba|BSDand now the x server won't start01:51
KonvIRCblacks, no01:51
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Toba|BSDis there a way to access the script that does the auto-video-setup thing that is in the ubuntu isntall?01:51
Toba|BSDI really hope somebody can help me :(01:51
phiber_opticis limewire better than gtk-gnutella?01:51
eggmanits dk01:51
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timfrostToba|BSD, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?01:52
Toba|BSDno, I'll try that01:52
Toba|BSDthank you01:52
eggmanwww.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=66545801:52
bimberiphiber_optic: opinions vary widely :)01:52
phiber_opticbimberi I cannot connect to gnutella01:52
phiber_opticit finds nothing01:52
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toko123gdict on ubuntu does nt open an applet that can reside in the panel waiting for a word to look up?01:53
toko123it does in fc401:53
phiber_optichow do I unsinstall a zipped package?01:54
toko123I can add the picture of a book to the panel but i'd like to have a box to type my words into01:54
bimberiphiber_optic: unsure about that sorry, could it be ports being blocked01:54
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eggmanCan someone help me restore a xorg.conf file, i have a backup in /var/backups/xorg01:54
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phiber_optichow can I check the ports that are blocked?01:55
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matitacciaHello! I would like to install ubuntu on a notebook which has already windows installed on it. So I have read the wiki about dual booting and installing a dual boot. Still it's not clear for me: which is the bootmanager that ubuntu uses? Which parameters should I write in, in order to get windows running? In the wiki is described how I should partition my disc, nothing else.01:55
bimberiphiber_optic: upstream i mean (none are blocked in ubuntu by default)01:55
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toko123phiber_optic, MAN NMAP01:55
beelzebub1987Anyone here know if WinRar can open .7z files, because I want to make a 7z archive with archive manager.01:55
timfrosteggman, sudo cp /var/backups/xorg/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf01:56
phiber_opticso why could I connect to gnutella...01:56
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bimberiphiber_optic: you said you couldn't...01:56
phiber_opticI couldnt i mean sorry01:56
Toba|BSDtimfrost: thanks for the info, it seems to be working so far01:56
maddash!ipw220001:56
ubotumaddash: Wish i knew01:56
maddash!ipw01:56
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ubotumaddash: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about01:56
phiber_opticit says you appear to be firewalled .....01:56
Toba|BSDI just hope x starts :(01:56
maddash!ieee8021101:56
ubotumaddash: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:56
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maddash!wireless01:57
ubotuwireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards01:57
eggmani doubt01:57
eggmanthanks worked like a charm01:57
bimberiphiber_optic: i mean your isp perhaps,01:57
bimberiphiber_optic: note that gtk-gnutella works reasonably well for me even though it says its firewalled01:57
phiber_optichow can I know if it works...01:57
Toba|BSDbut... it does not work.01:57
phiber_opticsince I search somehting and it doesnt find anything01:58
Toba|BSDfucking hell.01:58
Syco54645can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me01:58
Toba|BSD:(01:58
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bimberimatitaccia: ubuntu uses grub, the install should detect the windows partition and configure the dual boot automatically01:58
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timanyone here really good with samba?01:58
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draconiustim: what do you need to do?01:59
gerstif I`m using qemu running windoz under ubuntu how can I save files under my home dir from qemu?01:59
bimberi!anyone01:59
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>01:59
matitacciabimberi, so I don't have to do nothing hein... mmm.... I have been having some troubles with my SATA Hdd so I'm a bit suspicious. I think I'll wait until I have a second PC with me, cause at the moment it could be "dangerous"...01:59
timi got a public share to work and username02:00
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timworks fine can see it with my windows machine02:00
phiber_opticHow can I install java?02:00
Syco54645bimberi: i am realizing that noone is good with my question02:00
draconiusphiber_optic: use synaptic02:00
bimberimatitaccia: might be a good idea02:00
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bimberiSyco54645: but have you asked it?02:00
matitacciabimberi, thx. 'night.02:00
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Syco54645can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me02:00
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timnow i want to start adding drives to the server but i have questions on some of what i did02:00
phiber_opticdraconius do you know how to uninstall an application that I installed by unzipping it?02:00
Syco54645bimberi: that is the question02:00
timsudo mkdir /home/public02:00
timsudo chmod 777 /home/public/02:00
timsudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf_backup02:00
timsudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf02:00
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timwhat is the 777 for?02:01
Felix15is it possible to switch to tcsh?02:01
draconiusphiber_optic: remove the directory where you unzipped it?02:01
Syco54645bimberi: i have been asking it for a at least 5 hours02:01
draconiusphiber_optic: did you try manually installing java?02:01
gpledwhat is the local package manager called?02:01
phiber_opticnoop02:01
Syco54645bimberi: since yesterday02:01
draconiustim: and?02:01
phiber_opticI manually installed limewire02:01
bimberiSyco54645: unfortunately that's not a good question.  What are you trying to achieve?02:01
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jhunitahow can i install java jre to function as a plugin for firefox?02:01
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Syco54645tim: 777 is the chmod for executable writable blah02:01
bimberi!java02:01
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs02:01
draconiusphiber_optic: one sec02:01
PuMpErNiCkLetim: It sets the permissions to read/write/execute for all users and groups on the file.02:02
timso that in way sets the permissions02:02
timk02:02
Syco54645bimberi: i am trying to keep wine from being upgraded... and i find the guide on the wiki to be most confusing and the fact that it causes errors when you follow it isnt a good sign02:02
y_o_uto anyone, please help. kubuntu noob here and cant get my wireless usb NIC to work, very, very frustrating. the thing is not enabled (i have all the drivers installed using ndiswrapper), picks up the network, but when i try to enable it in network settings, it wont let me log on in "administrator mode". ideas greatly appreciated. thanks02:02
draconiusphiber_optic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4c7e4207c354be7cb50a2c3c9ae6dae5e73bb6a402:02
bimberiSyco54645: use Package -> Lock Version in Synaptic02:02
CyberSlugI have recently tried to compile a number of different versions of the kernel - they compile fine, and using mkinitrd I can get the init file - but when I try to load it it complains about missing modules : module not found: /lib/modules/.../modules.dep not found - Unable to sync (or something like that)... Does anyone know what the problem is?02:03
draconiustim: 777 means that anybody has read/write/execute permissions on files in that folder02:03
Syco54645bimberi: ah ok... this guide that i have appears to be out of date https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto02:03
cello_raspi can't launch synaptic!02:03
timi am about to plug in my raid tower when i partition it what file system should i use02:03
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phiber_opticthanx02:03
draconiustim: ext3 for best speed, IIRC (not sure though)02:04
bimberiSyco54645: yeah, although pinning is pretty complicated.  That was a better question by the way :)02:04
Felix15hey, for a school project I'm required to work in the tcsh shell. I've dloaded it from synamptic.  but I don't know how to switch.  Does somebody know how to switch shells?02:04
Toba|BSDoh02:04
Toba|BSDchsh02:04
Unitydoes anyone know how to run multiple windows managers?02:04
Toba|BSDand use the vi that pops up to edit the shell line02:05
CyberSlugAnyone have any ideas?02:05
Toba|BSDif you don't know how to use vi google for "vi tutorial" or do man vi02:05
Syco54645bimberi: i have been using linux for 6 years now... at least and that guide is the most confusing that i have come across.  besides i prefer command line to graphical02:05
Toba|BSDCyberSlug: what was your question again?02:05
CyberSlugI have recently tried to compile a number of different versions of the kernel - they compile fine, and using mkinitrd I can get the init file - but when I try to load it it complains about missing modules : module not found: /lib/modules/.../modules.dep not found - Unable to sync (or something like that)... Does anyone know what the problem is?02:05
Toba|BSDUnity: I don't think you can do that (at least not at the same time)02:05
Syco54645bimberi: but thanks that is just what i needed... now the update thing wont break my special wine02:05
Toba|BSDsorry CyberSlug I have no idea02:05
CyberSlugToba|BSD, NP02:05
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bimberiSyco54645: just had a look, and definitely agree :|02:06
phiber_optichow can i unistall something that I manually unzipped, just by deleting the folder to where it was unzipped?02:06
eggman_Felix15 did you try typing tcsh at a command propmt?02:06
cello_rasphow do i get smbmount?02:06
timwhat program should i use to partition?02:06
bimberiSyco54645: unfortunately Packages -> Lock Version is the extent of my pinning knowledge - just enough to help you :)02:06
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Syco54645bimberi: if you leave the Pin-Priority: <pin's priority> part off like the author says, it causes synaptic to error.  a 0 causes an error too and you have to click to make it go any more02:07
Felix15eggman_: heh yeah that worked.  I thought I needed sh or chsh or something like that. Thanks02:07
Syco54645bimberi: it is really quite annoying02:07
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eggman_Felix No problem02:07
PuMpErNiCkLephiber_optic: If you've been running it from the folder you unzipped it to, yeah, just deleting that folder should get rid of it.02:07
cachedwhat do you all seem to find better in general (for a computer programmer type), ubuntu or kubuntu?02:07
bimberiSyco54645: looks like there a wiki page editing task just made for you :)02:07
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KonvIRChi02:08
KonvIRChow I can unlock APT database?02:08
cachedhi02:08
UnityToba|BSD: what command can i issue to get a duplicate of the Xserver that starts when i boot. but on a different display02:08
phiber_opticI am installing java and i get the following Grant the "stopThread" RuntimePermission?   should I click on yes or no02:08
cachedkonvirc: what do you mean?02:08
Syco54645bimberi: i own my own wiki that i need to get working on.  and the forum.  splra.org ;)02:08
Syco54645bimberi: but now i need to eat.  thanks alot for the help with this.02:08
KonvIRCcached, my APT database is locked02:09
bimberiSyco54645: np :)02:09
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cachedKonvIRC: as in, you don't have rights to it?02:09
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phiber_opticI am installing java and i get the following Grant the "stopThread" RuntimePermission?   should I click on yes or no02:09
eggman_click yes02:09
kasemodzhey has anyone installed proftpd before?02:10
phiber_opticthanx eggman02:10
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gnomefreakKonvIRC: more than likey its locked because you have more than 1 apt app open and running02:10
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eggman_Thats what I clicked atleast ;)02:10
gnomefreaks/likey/likely02:10
cachedKonvIRC: you there?02:10
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KonvIRCcached, no I just boot th ePC02:11
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kasemodzi installed proftpd and when i try to connect it from another machine i get th login window and i type my username and password. when i press enter, it tries to login then comes back to the login window02:11
cachedKonvIRC: I assume you are doing sudo apt-get blah blah blah?02:11
kasemodzanyone know how to fix that02:11
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KonvIRCnoo02:11
KonvIRCthe APT database is locked the last 5 days02:12
kasemodznot its kon02:12
cachedwhat happens when you do sudo apt-get update02:12
kasemodzkonv just do sudo apt-get update02:12
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kasemodzso yeah can anyone help me with proftpd02:13
cachedkasemodz: beat you to it :P02:13
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kasemodzlol cached02:13
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cachedkasemodz: must it be that specific ftp client02:14
KonvIRCthe database is UNLOCKED thanks!!!!02:14
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kasemodzwell its actually just a daemon02:14
martinccan anyone help me install amaroK02:14
kasemodzim trying to run a a ftp server02:14
cachedoh02:14
_jasonmartii, sudo apt-get install amarok02:14
armosfighterwhere do i go to change my external drive to make it DMA02:14
_jasonmartinc, ^02:14
kasemodzand the one i found of ubuntu forums was proftpd i dont care which daemon i use as long as it work02:14
cachedhmmm i have NO experience with server stuff on any recent OS02:14
martincit gives me dependencies which it won't install02:14
kasemodzok02:15
cachedlast time i set up a server was probably 199502:15
_jasonmartinc, have you enabled universe and multiverse?02:15
kasemodzoh lol02:15
kasemodzgood old windows 95 times02:15
cachedI'm nearly 3 times the age i was back then now :P02:15
martinci think, i've uncommented the whole sources.list02:15
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kasemodzok02:15
martinc...wait now it's doing something this time02:15
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_jasonmartinc, you may need multiverse, please put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin02:16
phiber_optichow can I check my firewall configurations?02:16
martinci tried apt-get install and it seems to be working02:16
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kasemodzjust make sure martinc that you don't uncomment the cdrom line02:16
armosfighterhow do i make my external dvd drive dma avalible02:16
_jasonphiber_optic, sudo iptables -L02:16
armosfighter?02:16
martincweird, it's gonna install libtunepimp now even though it wouldn't yesterday02:16
kasemodzif you do that it will ask you to insert the cd every time u instal02:16
frazmanwWhat is the best way to mount a filesystem from a windows computer using samba, but have it show like a drive so I can play music etc from it?02:17
martincit's not commecnted02:17
bimberiubotu tell armosfighter about dma02:17
phiber_opticthanx _jason02:17
armosfightero i forgot about the bot02:17
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martincsorry i mean it is commented02:17
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kasemodzgood if it doesn't work you can always go to synaptic and go to preferences and select the community based sources02:18
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martincyeah i know02:18
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pansardoi02:18
underscore_This isn't a bad distro.02:18
underscore_:'\02:18
_jasonphiber_optic, you may not need the sudo, if you don't, don't use it02:18
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phiber_opticok thanx02:19
pansardhi02:19
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phiber_opticbut I dont understand the result that I got02:19
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martincokay so when I finally go out of my way to ask for help it works, weird02:19
martincthanks anyways, goodbye02:19
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_jasonubotu, tell phiber_optic about iptables02:19
underscore_I'm not going to ask my question, until I read the documentation.02:19
_jasonphiber_optic, you may want to either read some tutorials on iptables and/or install firestarter, a gui frontend02:20
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_jasonunderscore_, good man02:20
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underscore_I just got my cds today.02:21
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underscore_Deleted windows, (Always a plus) :).02:21
|cached|yay02:21
underscore_And got mugged for 15 cds. :/02:21
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_jasonunderscore_, ha no turning back now02:21
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underscore_Amen.02:21
|cached|mugged by nerds?02:21
|cached|i know how you feel02:21
underscore_I'm handing these cds out like candy.02:21
|cached|yep02:21
underscore_The most unlikely of people asked for them.02:21
|cached|yep02:22
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nvezwhy would you steal something free.02:22
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underscore_Ghetto black kid, speaking ebonics daily, etc etc, was like "let me get that cd".02:22
underscore_It's like, crack.02:22
nvez"I RUN TEH PIRATED UBUNTU WID PATCHED APT-GET"02:22
nvez=p02:22
underscore_ono02:22
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stevenjis anyone "testing" dapper flight 3?02:22
[0-cached-0] yay im at the top of the list :)02:22
nvezhttp://cgi.ebay.com/A-small-amount-of-dirt-from-the-Bronx_W0QQitemZ5657320642QQcategoryZ1467QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem02:22
nvez...02:22
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cheatersrealmhow stable is dapper? aka can I run it on my laptop (g4 ibooK) and not run into many problems02:23
[0-cached-0] nvez: just by the link i can tell it is something stupid02:23
_jasoncheatersrealm, no02:23
cycomcheatersrealm: I had a problem with gui02:23
cafuegostevenj: i've got a daily build from the same day flight3 was released, does that count?02:23
PuMpErNiCkLecheatersrealm: Probably not - it's still in alpha testing.02:23
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_jasoncheatersrealm, it will break many times before it is stable02:23
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cheatersrealmargh02:23
cheatersrealmthanks02:23
cycomcheatersrealm: gnome acted like it was on crack02:23
cafuegocheatersrealm: I installed it on a G4 iBook here 2 days ago.02:23
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nvezomg gnome tells its gotta upgrade 2 gotta get crax 4 it02:23
nveznyone hav ny??02:24
nvez=p02:24
underscore_lolol02:24
cheatersrealmI need the dapper kernel to get wireless, unless I selectively update to get the dapper kernel and airport extreme drivers02:24
underscore_I think I love you, nvez.02:24
underscore_Not sure; yet.02:24
cafuegocheatersrealm: it's not 100% stable, BUT airport extreme works.02:24
cheatersrealmyeah02:24
nvezhttp://cgi.ebay.com/CASINO-IN-LAS-VEGAS-LIVING-ADVERTISING-FOR-3-MONTHS_W0QQitemZ6030271244QQcategoryZ573QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem02:24
nvezROFL.02:24
cycomcheatersrealm: or you could just, like, ya know, install the 2.6.15 kernel by hand...02:24
cheatersrealmI can't have os's on the laptop breaking02:24
stevenjcafuego, thats works..just downloaded last night....everything seems to be going just fine until x server will not work.  I have a nvidia 5200 (Nothing exotic!) do you know something I can do to get X working?02:24
cafuegocheatersrealm: With WPA even, if you apply a few small patches to the kernel.02:24
_jason!offtopic02:24
ubotuofftopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!02:24
cycomcheatersrealm: I dual boot ubuntu and gentoo02:24
[dalamar] what program or command would i use to browse an smb network?02:24
underscore_Whoa..02:24
cafuegostevenj: Installed nvidia-glx?02:25
underscore_I just noticed how many people were in here.02:25
cycom_jason: yes thank you. what?02:25
hyphenated[dalamar] : nautilus can do it, I think02:25
cheatersrealmyeah, I don't want to install build tools tho02:25
stevenjcafuego, please dont tell me its that simple02:25
cafuegocheatersrealm: OSX and Ubuntu live happily side by side :-)02:25
cheatersrealmyeah I know :)02:25
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cafuegostevenj: it's not that simple02:25
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cafuegostevenj: Well, it is, but I'm not telling you ;-)02:25
_jasoncycom, excuse me?02:26
cycom_jason: ...!offtopic?02:26
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_jasoncycom, did you not notice the ebay link?02:26
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stevenjcafuego, ok..err..also when I do a clean install and sudo apt-get update update...something is not working 1. The US servers are crap or 2. something else any suggestions?02:26
[0-cached-0] Macintosh and Windows suck equally in my opinion02:27
cycom_jason: no, because I didn't care...02:27
cafuegostevenj: Use other servers (yes, the US are crap)02:27
cello_rasphow do i get smbmount?02:27
_jasoncycom, yes... that's what the !offtopic was for...02:27
cafuegocello_rasp: install 'smbfs'.02:27
frazmanwWhat is the best way to mount a filesystem from a windows computer using samba, but have it show like a drive so I can play music etc from it?02:27
cycom_jason: I have just noticed that the ebay link was a whole line, and your !offtopic and ubutos response took up just as much space, and two lines.02:27
stevenjcafuego, guess that settles it then...going to reinstall. (Vi makes me nervous) but I guess I'll manage :)02:27
nvezstop using cracked linux then.02:27
nvez=p02:27
cafuegofrazmanw: Add it to /etc/fstab02:28
_jasoncycom, why are you even debating this? he pasted it twice fyi02:28
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cafuegostevenj: If you dislike vi, use nano ;-)02:28
cycomstevenj: why do you need vi?02:28
nineO9smilin joe fission02:28
frazmanwcafuego, I did I used the line I used in Gentoo but it does not work.02:28
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cycom_jason: actually, scrolling back, he pasted two different links.02:28
cello_rasposx is like a pretty secretary in a fashionable office who cant do her job for shit and has sex with random strangers02:28
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_jasoncycom, both offtopic... I'm done discussing this02:28
stevenj...because I have this old school unix manual as my only resource at the time02:28
geneo93crimsun:  i have 2.6.15-5mdksmp sigatel stac9758,59 in mandriva cooker and it works just fine02:29
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cafuegostevenj: use 'nano' wherever the manual refers to vi.02:29
underscore_Oi.02:29
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stevenjthanks02:29
forker#join ##c02:29
cafuegostevenj: much easier to use02:29
xzerodoes anybody have any idea why in totem (using xine) whenever I change the output to stereo, it always reverts back to whatever was selected previous to it? I can't get stereo to stick.02:29
stevenjI have been using ubuntu since hoary..but this is first time I've tried to test the next best thing...I think I will be ok when I get x working anyway thanks02:30
nineO9csharp rox0rz02:30
frazmanwcafuego, //hpserver/E   /mnt/smb/E   smbfs auto,username="MY USER",password="MY PASSWORD",uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 002:30
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cafuegofrazmanw: And /mnt/smb/E exists?02:30
frazmanwcafuego, yes02:30
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frazmanwit says wrong fs type02:30
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cafuegofrazmanw: and 'smbclient -L hpserver' works?02:30
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quidam-hi, anybody knows if the ubuntu kernel have the unionfs module compiled?02:31
ShadymanHey guys? Dumb question. Where do you set the default media player in Gnome?02:31
eggman_Can anyone help me install the nvidia drivers for my Geforce2 MX200? I used the wiki but that just borked my xserver02:31
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=== quidam- sorry if my english is bad but i speak spanish :P
stevenjAnd for whats it worth (and I dont care what linux says) Gnome "feels" better that KDE (kubuntu). Ok so maybe that comment is not worth anything...02:31
Shadyman!es02:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:31
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existancehow do i make ls display multiple columns?02:31
timwhen i try to install gparted i get this error root@ubuntu:/home/tim # sudo apt-get install gparted02:31
timReading package lists... Done02:31
timBuilding dependency tree... Done02:31
timE: Couldn't find package gparted02:31
timroot@ubuntu:/home/tim #02:31
stevenjlinux-linus02:31
frazmanwcafuego, yes it does work02:31
Shadyman!paste02:31
ubotuit has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text02:31
stevenj=02:31
_jasonShadowline, right click on the file got to properties -> open with02:32
csbis there a built in graphical FTP client in ubuntu?02:32
_jasontim, don't use sudo as root02:32
eggman_csb yea under places click connect to server02:32
bimbericsb: nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server...02:32
_jasontim, pastebin contents of /etc/apt/sources.list02:32
geneo93eggman_:  all you needed to do is apt-get install nvidia-glx and the nvidia-glx-config enable02:32
existancehow do i make ls display multiple columns?02:32
eggman_geneo93 but my card is a legacy card02:33
frazmanwcafuego, any Sugestions?02:33
geneo93well its should detect that on its own02:33
eggman_hmm ok ill try that02:33
quidam-hi, anybody knows if the ubuntu kernel have the unionfs module compiled?02:33
rikaiHm, about ubuntu cd shipping to the us... I was thinking of ordering a 50 CD deal in the us, could anyone give me a more in-depth process of the steps? mainly the parts involving the shipping time and what happens whne the cd's get here, and also who they're shipped via.02:33
timapt.conf.d  secring.gpg  sources.list  trustdb.gpg  trusted.gpg  trusted.gpg~02:33
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timwhat did i just do i mean  what is etc/apt02:34
existancehow do i make ls display multiple columns?02:34
_jasonexistance, should do that by default02:34
underscore_geh.02:34
existance_jason, and if it doesnt?02:34
underscore_I hate to ask this. It's probably going to be annoying.02:35
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_jasonexistance, check your aliases02:35
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bshumate!tell rikai about shipit02:35
eggman_geneo93 can i do the nvidia-glx-cnofig enavle in xterm then ctlr-alt-backspace ?02:35
_jasonexistance, my fault, it does rows... columns is -C02:35
geneo93yes02:35
OkitaDoes dapper have a complete multiverse repository yet? I can't find things like w32codecs and unrar02:36
existance_jason, cool thanks :)02:36
rikaibshumate, i already know about shipit, but it doesnt give very much information.02:36
geneo93you may need sudo though02:36
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underscore_My current resolution, is like 640x480. I was reading through the help file, and couldn't find anything about changing it. There are no other resolutions available.02:36
underscore_How would I go about being able to change it?02:36
Shadyman_jason: Thanks02:36
bimberiubotu tell underscore about resolution02:36
tritium!resolution02:36
underscore_I'm not blind enough to use it, this big all the time. :\02:36
_jason!fixres02:36
ubotufrom memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:36
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto02:36
Shadymancafuego: Fuego!!02:36
rikai!resolution02:37
bimberiubotu tell underscore_  about resolution02:37
rikaifeh.02:37
bshumaterikai: not even this information helped you: If you have questions about shipments and dates please refer to the Ubuntu FAQ.02:37
underscore_Thanks.02:37
underscore_'Preciate it.02:37
Doomhammerhow would I go about causing a program to execute every time I log in to KDE ?02:37
_jasonexistance, actually the -C for me seems to do the same thing... maybe I've got an alias somewhere...02:37
bshumaterikai: that link (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq#head-7eef2db63e0a75424cdd663ee6f7b8eedcf19607) seems to have much more information on it.02:38
jclintonDoes anyone know what the default username and password for CUPS administration is?02:38
bshumaterikai: don't read English?02:38
jclintonI'm trying to access the web interface for CUPS...02:38
rikaibshumate, o.O; i didn't see that anywhere... so please dont get on my back. :(02:38
Hentai^XPDoes anyone here use the ACL support on linux?02:38
rikaibshumate, i apologize for my eyes failing me it seems.02:39
geneo93sudo and your passwd02:39
bimberiubotu tell jclinton about cupsweb02:39
bshumaterikai: nobody's "on your back" dude02:39
existance_jason, wierd, worked for me though02:39
eggman_geneo93: i am su'd and nvidia-glx-config enable givves me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/729002:39
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Doomhammerhow can I have a program execute every time I log in to KDE ?02:39
_jasonexistance, yeah, it should work.  It's just that mine without the -C does the same thing :)02:39
OkitaDoomhammer: You could add it to your .profile or .xinitrc, or whatever it is, right?02:40
rikaibshumate, lol, sorry i again, i'm tired, and i tool the "dont read english?" comment as a sarcastic remark, which it oviosuly wasnt. :(02:40
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DoomhammerOkita: okay, i'll try it02:40
bshumaterikai: nawp...people of all nations here...so sometimes that is the case. ;-)02:40
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OkitaDoomhammer: I'm not sure it'll have the behavior you're looking for though, so read the manpages02:40
zblachhi02:40
existance_jason, mine used to, not sure what changed though :/02:41
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zblachquick question. how can I connect to my windows workgroup?02:41
rikaibshumate, yeah, i realized that after i hit enter, and immediately felt like a moron.02:41
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DoomhammerOkita: what i want is something that would perform the same function as the little "Start up" directory in windows02:41
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underscore_Should I use kernel framebuffer device interface?02:41
CanadianSnow!autodetect02:41
ubotuCanadianSnow: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!02:41
=== underscore_ goes with yes
bshumaterikai: no worries man, get some CDs, share and enjoy!02:41
geneo93can you enable it manually02:42
rikaibshumate, exactly what i planned on doing. ;)02:42
jclintonbimberi: that didn't work02:42
CanadianSnowsomeone should tell that stupid !BOT where "Autodetect"/"Autodetection" is...02:42
jclintonbimberi: it wont accept the cupsys password02:42
CanadianSnow!autodetection02:42
ubotuNot a clue, CanadianSnow02:42
dooglushow can I turn spell-checking on in gaim?02:42
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Shadyman!auto-detect02:42
ubotuShadyman: Do they come in packets of five?02:42
nullhow do i change the fb resolution?02:42
Relampagohello my friends :)02:42
Relampagochecking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2425: lex: command not found02:42
Relampagoconfigure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up02:42
Relampagoroot@elitebox:~/php-4.3.8# apt-get install yywrap02:42
nulli mean when the kernel boots up02:42
Relampagohow fix this problem?02:43
CanadianSnowsee Shadyman?02:43
nullwith vga=xxx ?02:43
dooglusRelampago: it's called 'flex'?02:43
Relampagoyes02:43
ShadymanCanadianSnow: Mmhmm02:43
dooglusRelampago: install flex02:43
bimberijclinton: try your own un/pw02:43
doogluslrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2005-12-27 03:53 /usr/bin/lex -> flex02:43
jclintonbimberi: doesn't work either02:43
Relampago:o02:43
CanadianSnowdoes anyone know where it talks about autodetection for ubuntu?? maybe Shadyman does?02:43
Relampagolet's see02:43
eggman_geneo93 can you enable it manually: was that to me?02:44
bimberijclinton: hm, ok02:44
zblachmy workgroup exists, but i'm somehow unable to connect to it successfully02:44
CanadianSnowor maybe Relampago02:44
OkitaDoomhammer: Right, if it's GUI-dependent then use .xsession or whatever it is, maybe?  That way it won't get run when you log in remotely02:44
DoomhammerOkita: sweet, thanks :)02:44
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OkitaDoomhammer: Otherwise you can use .profile and it'll get run every time.  This is from memory, so YMMV =)02:44
bimberijclinton: actually, what do you mean by "doesn't work"?  what error?02:44
ubuntuhi02:44
jclintonbimberi, i can't log in02:44
jclintonbimberi: in a web browser02:45
jclintonbimberi: i doesn't accept the un/pw02:45
ShadymanDoomhammer: In KDE I think you can put a launcher in ~/.kde/autostart/02:45
CanadianSnow!bots?02:45
OkitaSo does anyone know how I can get w32codecs and unrar in Dapper?02:45
ubotuNo idea, CanadianSnow02:45
ubuntuhelp02:45
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bimberijclinton: hm ok, it works for me02:45
CanadianSnowwit what ubuntu02:45
bimberijclinton: you did restart cupsys?02:45
jclintonbimberi: what did you do? yes i did02:45
Relampagocool :)02:45
tritiumOkita: read the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide for details on that02:46
Relampago$ dooglus $ thanks.02:46
ubuntumy linux02:46
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bimberijclinton: ok.  i did those two commands, then went to http://localhost:631 and logged in with my own un/pw02:46
ubuntuafff02:46
glacioushello02:47
underscore_brb02:47
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glaciousdoes anyone know how to change your refresh rate if only one is offered in the resolution control panel?02:47
dooglusRelampago: is that pretend money?  or shell prompts?02:47
CanadianSnowubuntu whats wrong with it?02:47
glaciousi'm tyring to stop this bouncing box on my monitor saying "mode not supported".  the desktop displays fine behind it, just that the box keeps bouncing.02:47
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ubuntui'm02:48
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the HorizSync and VertRefresh values.02:48
ubuntuvai tomar no cu bando de filho da puta02:48
eggman_geneo93: ok Im restarting x now, hope it works :)02:48
eggman_exit02:48
CanadianSnowur what ubuntu?02:48
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underscore_oi02:48
ubuntudo you undr02:48
underscore_not good.02:48
underscore_:\02:48
Relampagohow i install gmake ?02:48
jclintonbimberi: i don't see how that's possible; at what point did it ask you for the password? it hasn't asked me for a password for cupsys yet.............02:48
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CanadianSnowunderstand?02:48
ubuntudo you understand?02:48
CanadianSnowno02:48
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: i did, but no change.02:48
zblach!network02:48
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.02:48
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underscore_I did the ctrl alt backspace..02:48
Shadymanubuntu: What language?02:49
underscore_And tried to 'startx'02:49
zblach!workgroup02:49
ubotuzblach: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:49
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: why does it only show 85hz as an option in GNome?02:49
Okitatritium: The repositories I added are like those, but "dapper" instead of breezy... I wasn't sure if putting breezy there would screw things up or not02:49
geneo93eggman_:  i used nvidia drivers 8178 in mine02:49
ubuntui'm brazilian guy02:49
nullRelampago, gmake is just a symlink to make02:49
underscore_and it flashed 'are your pc display settings correct?'02:49
grimgravy014does limework in ubuntu?02:49
_jason!pt02:49
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.02:49
ubuntuwhere you from?02:49
grimgravy014limewire*02:49
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: Possibly because you set those variable as a specific value, not a range?02:49
Relampago$ null $ :o02:49
PuMpErNiCkLe*variables02:49
underscore_oi.02:49
jclintondoes anyone know how to make cups allow login in the web interface?02:49
nullRelampago, you know what the 'g' stands for?02:49
zblachum... it doesn't seem to be as simple as going to the network window02:49
nullGNUmake02:49
underscore_Any idea how to fix this?02:49
ubuntui don't no02:49
bimberijclinton: sorry, it's when i click on "Do Administration Tasks"02:49
Relampago$ null $ ?02:50
nulland on almost all linux systems the only make _is_ gnumake02:50
_jasonubuntu, ubotu e um computador, vai a #ubuntu-br.  para ir la, escreve: /j #ubuntu-br02:50
ubuntudo you speak portuguse?02:50
underscore_0.o02:50
jclintonbimberi: no, that's to PROVIDE the password for login... i'm asking: when did it ASK you for the password to set for cupsys ?????02:50
Doomhammerhow can I use sudo in a script, without the script prompting for a password ?02:50
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: change them under 'monitor' or 'screen'?02:50
bimberijclinton: at no point02:50
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nullRelampago, apt-get install make02:50
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CanadianSnowso, autodetection..02:50
jclintonbimberi: so what password are you using then?02:50
underscore_baahhhh02:50
nullif you don;t have make02:50
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zblachso, workgroups..02:50
Relampagoi have make :p02:50
Milkcan anyone help me setup a VPN connection with a windows box?02:50
CanadianSnowI'll be back02:50
underscore_Oh crap.02:50
CanadianSnowwhats VPN?02:51
nullRelampago, but you don;t have gmake?02:51
CanadianSnowMilk02:51
jclintonbimberi: does it come with a default password?02:51
zblachVirt. Priv. Net.02:51
nullyou gotta be kidding!02:51
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: "Monitor"02:51
underscore_Command-line sucks.02:51
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Relampago$ null $ aja02:51
MilkCanadianSnow, Virtual Private Network02:51
Horus23now02:51
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bimberijclinton: i'm logged in as my own account, using a web browser, and providing my own un/pw when asked02:51
CanadianSnowMilk Basically just a network???02:51
nullRelampago, what is 'aja'? and why the many $ signs?02:51
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jclintonbimberi: oh so you're not logging in as 'cupsys' ?02:51
underscore_When in doubt whip xp out!02:51
eggmangeneo93 it dindt work02:51
purpleheart_USMCWhat does it mean when you have a packet loss?  I pinged google.com and have a 25% packet loss02:51
underscore_:'\02:51
MilkCanadianSnow, kinda02:52
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: thank you, i'll try changing some stuff =)02:52
RelampagoLOL02:52
bimberijclinton: nope02:52
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: np :)02:52
Relampago$ null $ is my nick completion02:52
underscore_I thought that was amusing.02:52
jclintonwell it still isn't working even with my own un/pw02:52
underscore_Haha.02:52
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RelampagoxD02:52
nulloh god. its lame..02:52
nullchange it :)02:52
CanadianSnowMilk what version of windows?02:52
Relampagoahaha02:52
underscore_Sorry.02:52
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MilkCanadianSnow, XP02:52
Horus23bye02:52
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CanadianSnowWith what? linux ? (Milk)02:52
regeyayay nick completion02:52
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underscore_aie, segfault.02:52
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MilkCanadianSnow, yes02:52
underscore_brb, let's try this again.02:53
regeyaI think I'll change my name to that.02:53
geneo93eggman:  you might want to try getting kernel source matching your kernel and using nvidias installer02:53
bimberijclinton: then i don't know sorry02:53
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regeya"So, I'm Bob.  Who're you?"  "Nick.  Nick Completion."02:53
nulllol regeya02:53
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CanadianSnowMilk ubuntu? :p In XP u need a shared folder, and then on ubuntu you go to places, Connect to server02:53
eggmangeneo93 ok i will try nvidias installers and what do i nned to do for he kernal?02:53
MilkCanadianSnow, yes.. ubuntu, but its not that simple02:54
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jclintondoes anyone know how to enable CUPS web logins?02:54
CanadianSnowno?02:54
CanadianSnowy not milk?02:54
Relampagowhy other users can view the content of the dirs of users ???02:54
geneo93uname -r should tell you what kernel you have02:54
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MilkCanadianSnow, are you familiar with VPN?02:54
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CanadianSnowMilk: nope02:54
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underscore_Still no dice.02:55
underscore_How do I fix the xorg.conf?02:55
MilkCanadianSnow, its not just a network.. its an established, encrypted, virtual tunnel between to computers02:55
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: no luck =(02:55
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CanadianSnowMilk, oh, alright, sorry then..02:55
MilkCanadianSnow, its okj02:56
adriyelhow can I add a dialog to my right-click in Nautilus to open a terminal in my present location?02:56
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: added HorizSync 30-83 and VertRefresh 55-75 under the Monitor section, under Option "DPMS"02:56
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s1gnalHi, I have an ubuntu box(breezy) that I just installed a wireless PCI card and another ethernet card(existing eth0 is on mobo), how do I enable these cards? They were not detected at boot time02:56
underscore_brb.02:56
paul__my sound lags slightly on gaim02:56
bimberiadriyel: install nautilus-open-terminal02:56
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: then did /etc/init.d/gdm restart,  still just shows 85hz as the only refresh rate =(02:56
adriyelbimberi, thank you02:56
jclintonbimberi: figured it out, cupsys needs to be a member of both lpadmin and shadow02:57
bimberiadriyel: yw :)02:57
adriyelbimberi, what do I do to activate?02:57
bimberijclinton: ah02:57
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paul__when i message someone on gaim the sound plays half a second later02:57
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bimberiadriyel: logout and back in02:58
adriyelkkz02:58
poningruguys what does the wnck do?02:58
poningruin synaptic it says: A library to use for writing pagers and task lists02:58
s1gnalHi, I have an ubuntu box(breezy) that I just installed a wireless PCI card and another ethernet card(existing eth0 is on mobo), how do I enable these cards? They were not detected at boot time02:58
poningrucan I shut it down and be ok?02:59
bimberijclinton: yes, mine was already a member02:59
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purpleheart_USMCCan someone help me find a command to see what programs are running (including ones in the background), and how much memory they are using, along with other info?03:00
zuverinkanyone ever have a problem with thunderbird not opening a link from an email, the version I am running is from one of the repositories, but even with a dl'd version from the mozilla site it wont respond by opening any browser when a link is clicked?03:00
s1gnalpurpleheart: try03:00
s1gnaltop03:00
zuverinkpurpleheart_USMC:  try top in a shell03:00
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poningrupurpleheart_USMC, ps -aux03:01
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: Odd - could you copy your xorg.conf to the the pastebin?03:01
adriyelit works now bimberi, thanks03:01
bimberiadriyel: great! :)03:01
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Relampagowhy other users can view the content of the dirs of users ???03:04
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cheatersrealmRelampago: permissions on the directory03:05
hyphenatedRelampago: because your permissions let them03:05
Relampagoand, how fix this?03:05
hyphenatedRelampago: learn about permissions, then set them correctly03:05
Relampago:(03:06
hyphenatedwhat, did the word 'learn' scare you? ;-)03:06
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timfrostubotu tell Relampago about permissions03:06
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Relampago$ hyphenated $ :p03:06
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eggman_!nvidia03:08
uboturumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736803:08
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luisitohi guys03:09
luisitowhat software do I need to open a "C" file and a "H" file?03:10
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Doomhammerluisito: that is C source code, you need the GNU C compiler (or any c compiler for that matter)03:11
Doomhammerluisito: they can be editied with any text editor, but you'll need a compiler to user them03:11
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ryanpghi all... I'm running dapper, is there any value in upgrading/updating from the flight 3 cd?03:11
KnelixHello guys!03:11
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ToRTuReD_Xhmm03:11
antoinetest03:11
ToRTuReD_Xi have to log in to root to move files to a mounted partition right?03:12
PuMpErNiCkLeryanpg: Might as well, it's all unstable anyway. :)03:12
haasteemhi, i'm having trouble with my internet connection... the network is not down... adsl-start works and connects to the internet but when i start up firefox it can't connect (same with thunderbird, xchat and gaim)... what could be the problem?03:12
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eggman_haasteem try an "ifdown eth0" then an "ifup eth0"03:12
luisitoDoomhammer, thans03:13
luisitok03:13
frazmanwI have some rar files I need to unrar, how can I do this in linux?03:13
luisitoDoomhammer, which C compiler is good?03:13
antoinewww.rarlabs.com03:13
PuMpErNiCkLehaasteem: If that doesn't work, it could be a DNS problem - check System - administration - network - DNS tab for working servers.03:13
Syco54645frazmanw: get rar for linux03:13
haasteemeggman_: ok, i will try... i was thinking it might have something to do with eth0... when i did ifconfig it didn"t show any ip addresses in the data about eth003:13
null!info unrar03:13
Doomhammerluisito: the GNU C Compiler (GCC) is what pretty much everyone uses in Linux03:14
rikaierr, is there a login for the ubuntu livecd?03:14
luisitoDoomhammer, ok :)03:14
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null!info unrar!rar03:14
nullbah03:14
Doomhammerluisito: no problem :)03:14
PuMpErNiCkLerikai: It should be automatic...03:14
Syco54645rikai: no there isnt, but if you need to ssh into it you can make an account for that03:14
Shadymanrikai: No :)03:14
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nullfrazmanw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression03:14
frazmanwnull, tks03:14
haasteemeggman_: do you know what might have caused this? i didn't do anything strange as i can recall03:15
rikaiErr, why is a friend of mine getting a login screen then?03:15
cello_raspi just installed smbfs and i need to run smbmount as a user... it's confusing. http://pastebin.com/51089103:16
rikaioh, i see...03:16
nullrikai, because your friend hit logout?03:16
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rikaior, more specifically, it said "logging into user ubuntu in x seconds" and then just go kicked back to the login screen.03:16
nullif you logout i think it goes to gdm (login screen) but after a timeout goes back in03:16
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eggman_Haasteen: im not sure, it happens often on my debian box when it puts on the screensaver03:16
cello_raspno matter the permissions i can't run smbmount .... help me, bash people!03:16
ToRTuReD_Xok this is odd03:17
ToRTuReD_Xanyone know the chmod commands?03:17
ToRTuReD_X<_<03:17
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nullToRTuReD_X, what about chmod ?03:17
Doomhammerhow do you compare two strings in a BASH shell script ?03:17
haasteemeggman_:really? that would be odd... it was the first time i saw this happen on my ubuntu...03:17
s1gnalhow do I enable new network cards? I have 3 total installed and I can see one of them I believe in the output of lspci, but I'm a little lost on how to enable it?03:18
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Doomhammerslgnal: are you in GNOME ?03:18
s1gnaldoomhammer: yes03:18
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ToRTuReD_Xnull - i need to set 777 for my /dev/hdb1 mount03:18
haasteemeggman_: what if those 2 commands wouldn't help?03:18
MacSlowcan anyone please check if renaming of an icon on the desktop works for them under 5.10 (running Gnome 2.12.1) thanks03:19
ToRTuReD_Xproblem is i try sudo chmod 777 hdb103:19
Doomhammerslgnal: i belive it's in System > Networking ... there's a networking control panel somewhere where you can enable them03:19
ToRTuReD_Xand it shows like it works03:19
ToRTuReD_Xbut doesn;t03:19
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nullToRTuReD_X, you do realise that /dev/hdb1 is a device node?03:19
s1gnallol, I didnt know it was as easy as that03:19
nullits not your mountpoint!03:19
Toma-MacSlow: works fine03:19
timfrostDoomhammer, 'test "$S1" = "$S2" ' where the strings are stored in variables S1 and S203:19
ToRTuReD_Xnull, yes'm03:19
Doomhammertimfrost: thanks :)03:19
ToRTuReD_Xerm03:19
ToRTuReD_Xok03:20
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MacSlowToma-, did you use F2 or the "slow" double-click?03:20
dt-Anyone free to help? >_>03:20
Toma-MacSlow: f203:20
ToRTuReD_Xso how do i change permissions so i can move a few files over to it?03:20
haasteemeggman_: btw, in windoze i have no problem connecting03:20
nullToRTuReD_X, it might help others to help you if you just say what you want to do rather than how you are trying to do the same!03:20
ToRTuReD_Xerm03:20
ToRTuReD_Xi'm trying to set FULL permissions for /dev/hdb1 so i can move some windows driver over to my storage drive ie /dev/hdb103:21
eggman_haasteen: you just passed my knowlage of networking problems lol03:21
ToRTuReD_Xbut don't know how03:21
haasteemeggman_: :-)03:21
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MacSlowToma-, even if I select rename from the popup-menu my keystrokes done land in the area of the label, but in e.g. an open window of xchat or whatever app-window I happen to have non-minimized.03:22
haasteemeggman_: you know more than me... gonna try anyways03:22
nullToRTuReD_X, you want to copy some stuff over to the windows partition?03:22
nullas regular user?03:22
ToRTuReD_Xyes03:22
ToRTuReD_Xi don't even know the root user account03:22
ToRTuReD_X>_<03:22
nulland regular user doesn;t have write perms03:22
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Toma-MacSlow: you havent done anything weird to the "mouse grab attention" stuff have you?03:22
nullthe umask used when mounting the partition probably is restricting access03:22
cello_rasphow do i user permission for running smbmount? http://pastebin.com/51089103:22
ToRTuReD_Xwell what's the normal ubuntu v5.04 root03:23
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MacSlowToma-, not at all... this is a pretty fresh install03:23
Toma-MacSlow: weird :/03:23
Relampagohey03:23
ToRTuReD_Xi spose i could burn them to cd03:23
nullToRTuReD_X, err.. just try sudo /bin/bash03:23
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ToRTuReD_Xif i could figure out how to get gnome baker installed03:23
nullthat might give you root03:23
Relampagoi need install the command sendmail and mail03:23
ToRTuReD_X>_>03:23
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ToRTuReD_Xoh03:24
ToRTuReD_Xgo null03:24
rob5www.ubuntu.com03:24
jbzzToRTuReD_X:  the mount command that is used should include the option   -o  umask=0000,dmask=0000,fmask=0000    that will mount as 77703:24
ToRTuReD_Xyou roxor my joxor03:24
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ToRTuReD_X^_^03:24
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VanillaCokeis it possible to unistall ubuntu03:24
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ToRTuReD_Xjbzz - i used the fdick mount script >_>03:24
Relampagoi need install the command sendmail and mail03:25
ShadymanToRTuReD_X: No comment.03:25
nulllol03:25
jasonHello, where is the firefox plugin folder on a fresh install of Ubuntu03:25
nullRelampago, you want postfix03:25
nullRelampago, apt-get install postfix03:25
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Relampago$ null $ what is postfix03:25
Relampago?03:25
null!postfix03:25
ubotunull: Are you smoking crack?03:25
nullnot really :p03:25
geneo93this gaim 2.0 is strange03:26
null!info postfix03:26
ubotupostfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 889 kB, Installed size: 2140 kB03:26
Relampagoohhh03:26
Relampagocool :>03:26
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eggman_!info gaim03:26
ubotugaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB03:26
Relampago[22:26]  <ubotu> null: Are you smoking crack?03:26
Relampagoajjajaja03:26
VanillaCoke!info VanillaCoke03:26
nullooii..03:26
geneo93all the text just slides up slowly03:26
glaciousbleh03:26
nulli did answer, not really :p03:26
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glaciouswhy can't i change my refresh rate in Dapper?03:26
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glaciousit always says 85Hz.  do i need to be logged in as root in Gnome?03:26
jasonwhere is the plugin directory for firefox?03:27
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hnrjason, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/03:27
mengglacious: modify xorg.conf03:27
jasonhnr, thank you03:27
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tritiummeng: its' preferable to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" rather than modify /etc/xorg.conf by hand03:28
glaciousmeng: i did.03:28
ToRTuReD_Xok03:28
ToRTuReD_Xso i got the whole root thing03:28
rob5how is ubuntu compared to freebsd03:28
Okitatritium: The repositories I added are like those, but "dapper" instead of breezy... I wasn't sure if putting breezy there would screw things up or not03:28
ToRTuReD_Xhow do i copy a file over as root?03:28
glaciousmeng: i've tried it 3 times now.  used mode lines, added the vert/horiz lines, restarted gdm03:28
mengthere's no mplayer in the dapper repos03:28
hnrjason, it's the global directory. if you don't have permission use the local at .firefox/plugins/ (if you dont have one, feel free to create :)03:28
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mengmy graphic system wasn't detected to well, so i had to hand edit it the xorg.conf03:29
glaciousits a 19" LCD, the desktop displays, but there is a CONSTANT box displayed by my monitor that says 'this mode can not be displayed'03:29
glaciousso it reverts back to 60hz.  but that box won't go away.03:30
hnrjason, .firefox/plugins/ on your home direcotry, of course03:30
glaciousunless the video card stops sending it 85hz.03:30
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jasonhnr, thank you i think i got it was having trouble finding it for java plugin install03:30
mengglacious: obviously you tried the screen resolution option in gnome rite?03:31
gavinbhow do you check the current ubuntu version?03:31
glaciousmeng: yes sir03:31
Relampago$ null $ done, but :03:31
Relampagoroot@elitebox:~# mail03:31
Relampago-bash: mail: command not found03:31
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gavinbin command03:31
gavinbnot through about03:31
nullhow do you manage startup services in ubuntu?03:31
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null!info mail03:31
menguname -r ?03:31
theneonshadowhow do i access a windows computer without them knowing03:31
Shadymantheneonshadow: Call the police and tell them you're a hacker.03:32
Relampagodamn03:32
RelampagoL/03:32
poningrurofl03:32
geneo93uname -a03:32
Relampago:/03:32
Shadymantheneonshadow: Bwhaha03:32
ShadymanSorry, Cracker03:32
theneonshadowshadyman: haha03:32
timfrostgavinb, lsb_release03:32
jasonhnr, so i should create a folder called .firefox/plugins under my /home folder?03:32
poningruthanks dude03:32
mengglacious: i would hand edit it as a last resort03:32
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theneonshadowshadyman: this dude from in these chats did it to me and i wanna know how to do it back03:32
glaciousmeng: i have hand edited it to add modeline + horiz + vert lines.03:32
mengglacious: while i wonder where is mplayer03:32
Shadymantheneonshadow: Do you have remote desktop enabled?03:33
hnrjason, yes. when i have installed xine plugin it have created this. i think it work if you make if by your hand :)03:33
regeyagah.  'erb: command not found'03:33
regeyawhoops...03:33
poningruits N/A03:33
poningruwtf03:33
glaciousno clue, haven't found it yet :)03:33
theneonshadowshadyman: not that i know of03:33
geneo93theneonshadow:  try rm -r /03:33
glaciousi usually run Gentoo, but wanted to give Ubuntu a whirl03:33
poningrutimfrost, dude it says n/a no lsb release found03:33
Relampagodamn, damn03:34
poningrutheneonshadow, dont do that03:34
Shadymangeneo93: He said windows system :P03:34
null!info mplayer03:34
poningrugeneo93, please dont tell people that03:34
mengmy xorg does not have refresh settings on it03:34
timfrostmeng, mplayer is in multiverse (non-free software).03:34
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geneo93oh03:34
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glaciousi'm running Dapper, because my SATA Promise card is not supported during 5.10 installation03:34
poningruwhat package is required to see the help?03:34
glaciousi just wish i could change my vertical refresh rate03:34
geneo93thats simple format c:03:34
mengtimfrost: the servers seems down, i am constantly refreshing my repo info, and yet mplayer is no where03:34
poningrucause I cant open up help or about03:34
theneonshadowk03:35
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nullmeng, what is the version of mplayer deb?03:35
purpleheartUSMCWhat is a program or command to check system performance?03:35
timfrostponingru, lsb_release -d prints the description, lsb_release -a prints all the data03:35
nullif it is anything but cvs, its going to be craptastically old!03:35
purpleheartUSMCWhat is a "packet loss"?03:35
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jasonhnr, i placed the java file like i was suppost to in the plugins folder, and firefox has enable java enabled under preferences, but when i try a java page it says plugin needed (java)03:35
Nihil85hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?03:35
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mengnull: good question, but i can't even fetch mplayer to know about it03:35
timfrostmeng, are you running dapper?03:36
poningrutimfrost, ok let me try that03:36
nullmeng, cos the previous 'release' is more than 8 months old!03:36
mengtimfrost: dapper, here03:36
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kb3eqahowdy all03:36
nullmeng, with mplayer i always use cvs. i don't bother with packages on _any_ distro03:37
timfrostmeng, it may not have been released by the development team.  You *do* have multiverse enabled in sources.list, I presume03:37
poningruso why do you think I cant open about or help?03:37
kb3eqaI have a conundrum. I'm running ubuntu as a file/web server, and I'm looking to upgrade the hard drive without starting from scratch03:37
kb3eqaI have several ghosting utilities here, but theres a problem03:37
kb3eqaubuntu recognizes my slave drive (the drive I want to ghost TO)03:37
mengtimfrost: i had multiverse enabled already03:37
kb3eqabut the disk utils aren't mounting it03:37
kb3eqaany ideas?03:37
ToRTuReD_Xerm03:37
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ToRTuReD_Xhow would i do a cp -rf of /home/name/Desktop/ to /dev/hdb1 ?03:38
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nulldude!03:38
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meng timfrost: how to go about the CVS process?03:38
null/dev/hdb1 is _not_ the mountpoint!03:38
Nihil85hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?03:38
ToRTuReD_Xthen what is?03:38
dooglusToRTuReD_X: /dev/hdb1 is a raw device.  You would want to mount a filesystem from it onto a mount point03:38
ToRTuReD_X;_;03:38
PuMpErNiCkLeNihil85: Right click on the file -> properties -> open with03:39
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jasonis there a way to make sure firefox is not running from terminal03:39
nullmeng, go to http://www.mplayerhq.hu then download page.. scroll down below the skins section it gives you a short guide03:39
ToRTuReD_Xhow so dooglus ?03:39
Nihil85PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks!03:39
PuMpErNiCkLeNihil85: np :)03:39
hnrhnr i have got a problem compiling wine for x86_64 arch on ubuntu, but i remember using it on suse. what can i do for using it also in ubuntu ?03:39
dooglusToRTuReD_X: check if it's already mounted:  "mount | grep hdb1"03:39
hnrvitamin hnr, 32-bit chroot03:39
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nullToRTuReD_X, $ mount | grep 'hdb1'03:39
hnrhow to set up 32-bit chroot under ubuntu ?03:39
dooglusgreat minds think alike null?03:39
nullhehe03:40
geneo93 PuMpErNiCkLe is my favorite bread03:40
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theneonshadowhow do i remote connect to a windows computer03:40
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ToRTuReD_Xdooglus, null, /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)03:41
timfrost!chroot03:41
ubotuit has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457503:41
theneonshadowlike myown computer, just not this one and windows03:41
tyler__Question: I was trying to install FF1.5.  I must of done something wrong.  Now, whenever I try to open it says "it can't find the child process".  Any idea how to make it go back so I can at least start over?03:41
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tyler__Are there any good browsers other than Firefox that people prefer/like?03:41
mengtyler__: the fat lady sings03:42
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tyler__meng, ?03:42
mengOPera03:42
tyler__meng, opera03:42
ITSa341Hello and good evening everyone03:42
Nihil85PuMpErNiCkLe, but with the right click, in properties i cannot find the right command... That command is on windows, i guess03:42
jbzzToRTuReD_X:   so copy your files to /media/hdb1   and they will go to the mounted hard drive at that location03:42
tyler__meng, I was looking for it under the package manager but couldn't find it... any reason why? What could I search for?03:43
ToRTuReD_Xoh03:43
ToRTuReD_X>_>03:43
hnrtimfrost, thanks03:43
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mengtyler__: manual install, go to opera.com and get the ubuntu debs03:43
Jeffraehi all03:43
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mengthen sudo dpkg-i *opera package name*03:43
tyler__meng, I can't since I can't get on firefox.  Could you DCC me?03:43
ToRTuReD_Xjbzz, still get a copy error03:44
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JeffraeWhat is te reccomended way to get a java runtime enviroment in breezy?  Just go to java.com and follow the instructions for the bin file?03:44
EnsignRedshirtHello, world.03:44
mengtyler__:  i am on Gaim, DCC is out03:44
_jasonubotu: tell Jeffrae about java03:44
mengtyler__: or else just apt get konqueror03:44
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Jeffraethanks _jason03:44
_jasonJeffrae: I would recommend the javadeb method03:44
timfrostjbzz, ToRTuReD_X can't write because the file saystem is NTFS, which linux doesn't (yet) support writing to.03:44
tyler__meng, what is konqueror?03:44
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_jasonubotu: tell Jeffrae about javadebs03:44
CanadianSnowOK, the ubuntu site really doesn't help AT ALL03:44
ToRTuReD_Xah son of a bitch03:45
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CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?03:45
mengtyler__: KDE's versitle browser cum file manager03:45
Shadymanhow do i change what program Gnome's Keyboard Shortcut opens for "Music Player?"03:45
ToRTuReD_Xwell03:45
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ToRTuReD_Xanyone know a good free linux burner?03:45
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ToRTuReD_Xlike maybe gnomebaker?03:45
null_jason, how do i manage startup services?03:45
EnsignRedshirtA bit off topic, but maybe a quickie:  Does anyone know of a short guide to setting up a program that I wrote so that it uses the standard configure; make; make install sequence?  I can set up my own very basic Makefile, but I'm now looking for something like "Configure for Dummies".03:45
Jeffrae_jason, what is the deal with java being in a different universe or whatever?03:45
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nullfrom the cmdline i mean03:45
geneo93gcombust03:45
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_jasonShadyman: I have searched for that and been very unsuccessfull, I would suggest creating a custom command.  Ubotu will send you a link03:46
jbzzToRTuReD_X:   Is it an NTFS filesystem on that hard drive?    You are correct.  Cannot write to that.   Is there any unpartitioned room on that hard drive?03:46
Jeffrae_jason, copyright snafus?03:46
_jasonubotu: tell Shadyman about shortcut03:46
timfrostToRTuReD_X, can you reformat that partition with VFAT(FAT32)?  Because you can read and write VFAT on both Windows and Linux03:46
_jasonubotu: tell Jeffrae about erpos03:46
_jasonubotu: tell Jeffrae about repos03:46
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ToRTuReD_Xtimfrost, can't shit on there i wanna keep03:46
_jasonJeffrae: if you are still unsure after reading that link, ask me and I'll explain as best I can03:46
jbzzToRTuReD_X:   timfrost is heading in the correct direction.03:46
Jeffraethanks03:47
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psusishrink the ntfs partition, make a fat32 partition, copy some files over, repeat03:47
humbraro!phpbb03:47
ubotuhumbraro: Did you get hit by a windmill?03:47
kb3eqaDoes Ubuntu have a built in disk partitioning util like qtparted?03:47
humbrarohehe03:47
ToRTuReD_Xjbzz, yeh i know but i can't format this so any way of installing a burner?03:47
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_jasonkb3eqa: gparted03:47
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CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?03:47
kb3eqathansk jason03:47
psusikb3eqa, yea... qtparted... and gparted03:47
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CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video? ?!?!?!?!?!?03:47
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germanhi people, a netstat on my box says I have this port open 32771, I found "/usr/bin/python2.4" is the one listening. Is this normal??03:47
humbrarodoes anybody here know a quick and dirty way to get a phpbb set up  going?03:48
_jasonubotu: tell CanadianSnow about patience03:48
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rodolfohola03:48
jbzzToRTuReD_X:  I have not done so.  Do you plan on sharing files often win a Windows machine?03:48
psusigerman, is it listening on * or only on 127.0.0.1?03:48
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timfrostToRTuReD_X, is there some unallocated space on either drive? Coz if not, a CD/DVD may be your only option.03:48
jbzzToRTuReD_X:  often WITH a Windows machine03:48
regeyaNOT ENSIGN RASSMUNSEN!!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!03:48
_jasonhumbraro: phpbb2 seems to be in the repos, specifically universe03:48
regeyasorry, wrong channel for that sort of behavior.03:49
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mengtyler__: use konqueror for the time being and go to opera.com with it03:49
ToRTuReD_Xtimfrost, none at all03:49
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humbraro_jason: ya, i apt-getted it, and http://localhost still shows a  directory listing03:49
regeyaso, anyone have any idea what pkg the command-line ruby templating util 'erb' is in?03:49
_jasonhumbraro: I haven't installed it myself, have you tried searching the forums?03:49
germanpsusi, only on 127.0.0.103:49
humbraro_jason: /etc/apache2/sites-available also doesn't have anything other than the default too03:49
regeyaruby stdlib is split, like, 50,000 #$%! ways03:50
regeyalocate erb03:50
regeyaand now I'm typing shell commands into the irc client...interesting...03:50
humbraro_jason: yes, i searched google, however phpbb isn't the easiest thing to find03:50
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mengnull: is there a way to add mplayer-gui with CVS?03:51
regeya/usr/bin/erb1.8 <- those responsible will hopefully be sacked.03:51
timfrostregeya, try searching packages.ubuntu.com.03:51
CanadianSnowIsn;t phpbb a fourm host?03:51
psusigerman, then don't worry about it03:51
regeyatimfrost, found it.  it was named 'erb1.803:51
jbzztimfrost:  guess he could have sent the file from his Ubuntu machine to a friend and have the friend send it back to him on his Windows machine.03:52
nullmeng, sure.. but i just found something that might be useful to you03:52
germanpsusi, ok, thank you03:52
nullmeng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto03:52
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ITSa341is there a way to enable access to windows ntfs filesystems with the live cdrom?03:52
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CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?03:53
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CanadianSnowor, even start autodetection of like anything?03:53
meng null: does that work with dapper?03:53
_jasonITSa341: yes, mount them03:53
CanadianSnoww0rd0r are you an asker or a helper?03:53
nullmeng, no idea..03:53
JeffraeAnything nicer about Blackdown's distro of j2re?03:53
_jasonubotu: tell ITSa341 about ntfs03:53
nullanyway, you can get cvs installed.. its pretty simple03:53
ITSa341_jason  ty03:53
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_jasonITSa341: follow the manual instructions (use fdisk -l, mkdir /mount/point, mount ...)03:54
ITSa341_jason  and this is available from the live cdrom?03:54
mengnull: i had to use mplayer from source coz there's no mplayer packs, or even w32codecs03:54
null_jason, how do i manage the bootup services?03:54
kb3eqaapparently a server install of ubuntu does NOT have a partitioning util03:54
nullmeng, there is w32codecs deb03:54
_jasonITSa341: and play close attentions to the options you need for the proper permissions.  Yes, you use the terminal03:54
mengthen the gcc issue rears it's ugly head03:54
ITSa341_jason  tyvm03:55
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nulldunno where.. but its the newest iirc .. newest because it was released ages ago :)03:55
nullmeng, what gcc issue?03:55
nulli have mplayer cvs running fine with gcc 4.x03:55
mengYou are not using a supported compiler03:55
JeffraeWhat is different about Blackdown Java and Sun Java.. I know it is asll sun under the covers03:55
JeffraeAny advantages?03:55
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nullgcc -dumpversion gives me 4.0.203:56
nulland it worked fine!03:56
CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?03:56
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mengnull: all i have now is the cvs files for mplayer and ffmpeg03:56
_jasonnull: 'man update-rc.d' or 'man init', I don't know the details03:57
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_jasonJeffrae: java sucks, but sun's will probably run a bit better03:57
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mengnull: you there?03:58
JeffraeHey now.. Java is not all that bad.. I use it at work in my  Websphere enviroment.. ;)03:58
CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?03:58
nullmeng, and? you want to get w32codecs?03:58
_jasonJeffrae: heh sorry.  I mean that a lot of the java programs I have used have horrible memory leaks03:58
CanadianSnowBrendon?03:58
mengi want mplayer to play all the anime and DH that i have now in the end03:58
mengso i need w32codecs isn't?03:59
nullsure, it will.. i even encode to h264!03:59
Jeffraeyeah03:59
nullbut thats with some help from x264 :)03:59
JeffraeI think many people rely too much on the garbage collector.. then again sun claims that you can!! :)03:59
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nullmeng, on that page with the skins, etc.. just scroll upwards to grab the w32 codecs package03:59
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CanadianSnowguh04:00
CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?04:00
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CanadianSnownbound?04:00
_jasonCanadianSnow: please wait a little longer before repeating04:00
nboundyah?04:00
mengnull:  what is the compile steps, coz plain ./conifgure won't work04:00
nboundCanadianSnow, yeah?04:01
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nullmeng, what errors do you get? i have found #mplayer to be very nice people :)04:01
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mengnull: Error: Bad gcc version04:01
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Jeffrae_jason.. Thanks  I am good to go.. I am going to reboot to take care of a kernal update that I let updater do.04:02
nullmeng, can you paste the output from ./configure to a pastebin ?04:02
nullalso include gcc -dumpversion04:02
CanadianSnowlike this long?04:02
CanadianSnowhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?04:02
_jasonCanadianSnow: you do realize that no one is ignoring you, we just don't know the answer...  Come back in half an hour when different people are on04:03
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nullCanadianSnow, heh.. what autodetect?04:03
nboundCanadianSnow, it should be autodetected by install04:03
menghttp://pastebin.com/51094304:03
nullyou mean your sound card doesn;t work?04:03
nboundCanadianSnow, or when you reconfigure x perhaps =/04:04
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CanadianSnowreconfigure x???04:04
keirhi, i am installing ubuntu breezy on a new fujitsu laptop, and it's pretty broken: i get connect-debounce failed messages from the kernel. How hard is it to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.13 on ubuntu?04:04
geneo93dont bother04:05
CanadianSnowya, my soundcard doesn't work, and when i installed i had crappy monitor, but i have 204:05
nboundubotu tell canadian snow about xorg04:05
CanadianSnowand with both of them stuff is always off the screen04:05
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nboundubotu tell CanadianSnow about xorg04:05
nullmeng, gcc -dumpversion ?04:05
nullwhats the output?04:05
nboundCanadianSnow, read what ubotu told you04:05
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mengnull: command not found04:06
CanadianSnowuh, ok04:06
CanadianSnowty04:06
bcmillerCanadianSnow: could it be your monitor needs to be adjusted?  If you see stuff but it's not centered that's up to your monitor04:06
nullalso, whats these permission denied messages? where are you running this04:06
nullmeng, you don;t have gcc!04:06
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luiteis there an alternative for rdesktop (remote desktop client). this program is completely unusably when the server often redraws04:06
keirso: breezy -> 2.6.13+ easily?04:06
CanadianSnownope, its not that bcmiller04:06
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bcmillerCanadianSnow: what do you see when you boot?  Just the command line interface?04:07
pansonicfor some reason I can't limewire pro on limewire - can someone help me?04:07
pansonicfind*04:07
mengnull: what packs to apt-get for?04:07
mengi installed gcc4.0, now i wonder why now04:08
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Nihil85hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?04:08
nullerr.. after you installed gcc -dumpversion output is 'command not found' ?04:08
arrinmurrluite: krdc - don't know if it's any better though04:08
nboundNihil85, what extension is the file04:08
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Nihil85nbound, i wanted to set Xmms like default mp3 player04:09
_jasonNihil85: right click, properties, open with04:09
Nihil85and gedit for txt04:09
mengnull: yes04:09
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Nihil85_jason, i don't have this option in the properties menu04:10
_jasonNihil85: are you sure?04:10
Nihil85maybe because at this moment i'm with kde04:10
nboundNihil85, right click on the file and goto properties then the "open with" tab04:10
_jasonNihil85: oh... yeah I know nothing about kde... if no one can help you hear, try #kubuntu04:10
Nihil85nbound, i should be damned if i can find this option04:10
_jasonhere even04:11
nboundNihil85, its there :P04:11
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BoldStrikehow do you log into ubuntu live as root?04:12
Nihil85nbound, the fact that at this moment i'm under KDE can justify the fact that i cannot find this option, or maybe i have something broken?04:12
CanadianSnowbcmiller CanadianSnow: what do you see when you boot?  Just the command line interface?04:12
CanadianSnowummm04:12
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CanadianSnowWell, on this monitor, Its hardly readable04:12
nboundNihil85, ohhh im using nautilus in gnome04:12
bcmillerOh so it's a total mess04:12
Nihil85i'm using konqueror atm04:12
CanadianSnowand on the other one I dont really bother to read it all, If it even stayed long enougf to read04:12
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_jasonBoldStrike: I don't think you can, you have sudo access on the livecd04:12
nboundNihil85, never used kde so u'll have to ask some1 else04:13
_jasonubotu: tell BoldStrike about sudo04:13
Nihil85nbound, however, thanks04:13
bcmilleris the screen clear but it's just the command line thing or is it garbled and unreadable04:13
CanadianSnowwait...what are you asking bcmkiller04:13
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glaciousis it impossible to change your refresh rate from 85 in Dapper?  I've tried everything, autoconfig, changing xorg.conf by adding modeline/Vert/Horiz rates.  any suggestions?04:13
CanadianSnowbcmiller**04:13
bcmillerdo you have readable text on your screen04:13
luitearrinmurr: ah, tnx, i'll try :)04:13
nboundglacious, reconfigure x04:13
BoldStrike_jason: what if i want to use Nautilus to view a HD that is available to root only?04:13
glaciousnbound: i got dapper installed on SATA =)  ty.04:14
_jasonBoldStrike: did you mount this cd yourself?04:14
CanadianSnowya, its readable04:14
_jasonBoldStrike: I mean hd04:14
glaciousnbound: i did, i tried the autoconfig again, did nothing.04:14
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BoldStrike_jason: yeh04:14
bcmillerok try typing xorgconfig and answering the questions to get your monitor working04:14
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_jasonBoldStrike: is it ntfs or fat32?04:14
glaciousnbound: all there is in Gnome is 85hz.  shows all my resolutions, but nothing i did would change anything for the refresh options in Gnome04:14
CanadianSnowquestions? :p04:14
BoldStrike_jason: certain directories are locked04:15
CanadianSnowhold on, I'll go try some stuff.04:15
BoldStrike_jason: neither... it's reiser04:15
nboundglacious, o well why complain about 85 im using 6004:15
glaciousbcmiller: the monitor works, it just has this bouncing box saying 'can't display this rate...'04:15
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kb3eqahey all. If I copy an entire hard drive from one drive to another (cp -options /) is it going to preserve my file permissions by default? or am I going to have to set some argument to do that?04:15
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glaciousnbound: it's an LCD, it does 75 @ 1280x1024, not 85.04:15
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PuMpErNiCkLekb3eqa: For copying drives, you should be using dd, not cp.04:15
bcmillerOh... well he needs to hit Alt+cntl+backspace right?04:15
kb3eqahmm04:16
kb3eqahow does that work?04:16
_jasonBoldStrike: use a umask, or fmask/dmask combo when you mount it.  OR, if you really want a root privileged nautilus, 'gksudo nautilus'04:16
glaciousnbound: the adapter is set to 85, the monitor is running at 60.  the adapter keeps trying to send it 85hz signals, so the monitor keeps displaying a bouncing box saying it can't display it, even tho the desktop is still behind the bouncing box.04:16
kb3eqabecause I've about lost my mind trying to deal with norton ghost04:16
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bcmillersorry... that was for CanadianSnow04:16
PuMpErNiCkLedd if=/dev/hd* of=/dev/hd*04:16
men1null: having a bad connection morning here04:16
glaciousnbound: it's like the monitor auto-throttles back the refresh to something it can handle, but constantly displays that error box until the card stops sending it refreshes that are too high.04:16
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PuMpErNiCkLeYou'll probably want to read the man page for it, just to make sure you use the right options.04:16
nboundglacious, did u select the right max refresh in x reconfig04:16
hyphenatedPuMpErNiCkLe: you're joking, right?04:17
kb3eqaso in my case it would be: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/hdb104:17
kb3eqaor something similar?04:17
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glaciousnbound: I entered in my monitor's VertRefresh:  55-7504:17
_jasonubotu: tell BoldStrike about ntfs04:17
PuMpErNiCkLehyphenated: Say what?04:17
hyphenatedyou use dd to _clone_ a drive to an exact same make and model of another one04:17
_jasonBoldStrike: that link will give you the info you need, read the 'manual part'04:17
glaciousnbound: but in Gnome, when i goto Display Resolutions, it shows many resolutions, but only one refresh. 85.04:17
nboundglacious, run the one where u pick the max res i just pick 1280x1024 @ 60 and it enables all the ones i can use04:17
kb3eqathats what I want to do hyphenated04:18
hyphenatedbut you do _not_ use it for copying one set of files from one place to another04:18
PuMpErNiCkLehyphenated: That's what he wants to do, though - copy an entire drive.04:18
hyphenatedkb3eqa: are they _exactly_ the same make, model, size and structure?04:18
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kb3eqano04:18
glaciousnbound: i use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:18
BoldStrike_jason: i'm mounting an image file though, using loop.. and it's a reiser fs04:18
kb3eqabut i can stretch the partitions later cant I?04:18
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nullthen you don;t want to use dd04:18
kb3eqaso just go with cp?04:18
hyphenatedkb3eqa: dd is probably a bit too close to the disk structure to be a 'safe' way to do it04:18
glaciousnbound: i've manually edited the xorg.conf to have the vert and horiz rates.  restarted gdm, and it still just shows 85.  nothing changes it, or adds other rates.04:19
kb3eqahmm04:19
kb3eqaok I'll try just a CP first04:19
hyphenatedI'd probably use tar or dump04:19
kb3eqaits worth a shot04:19
nullkb3eqa, why not just boot live then cp over the stuff ?04:19
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_jasonBoldStrike: I believe the mask options would still work, ignore the fact the link says windows.  It has info their that you can use.  If it's too much trouble, just do 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal.  Doesn't really matter since you are on a livecd04:19
men1null: should i downgrade gcc?04:19
haasteemeggman_: hi, those 2 commands you gave me didn't work :(04:19
kb3eqaI've been battling with a damn livecd with norton ghost on it for an hour04:19
CS|AwayIF anyones talking 2 m, please mention "CS|Away"04:19
kb3eqaand no matter what I do, it will only mount the master hd04:19
CS|Awaythanks04:19
nullwhat version? i have 4.0.2 on opensuse 10.0 and mplayer cvs works great04:19
kb3eqaso it wont work04:19
BoldStrike_jason: ok. thanks04:19
Nihil85can anyone suggest me the name of a mediaplayer that can handle MediaLibrary, can enqueue files with a click, with an equalizer, like winamp?04:20
jbzzkb3eqa:  I suggest tar with the i and p options04:20
hyphenatedkb3eqa: use a linux-based live cd like the ubuntu one or knoppix or something04:20
_jasonNihil85: try amarok04:20
kb3eqaI have knoppix here04:20
nulljbzz, err? why tar?04:20
men1null; ubuntu's gcc4.004:20
nullhe wants to copy the stuff.. not backup the stuff04:20
Nihil85I've tried beep, xmms and rythmbox, but they haven't all these functions04:20
Nihil85_jason, ok, i will try it04:20
nullkb3eqa, if you really want to preserve perms etc. use cp -a ...04:21
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hyphenatednull: tar can be used for lots of things04:21
null-a will preserve all04:21
kb3eqaok, just to sooth my curiousity, does cp preserve file permissions by default?04:21
kb3eqauseful information to have ni the future04:21
_jasonNihil85: some people recommend quod libet, but I haven't tried it.  I like amarok though, it's worth the kdelibs04:21
kb3eqathats what I was thinking null04:21
kb3eqahmm04:21
nullhyphenated, but i have never known tar to use for copying and use the later copy as a replacement!04:21
hyphenatedif you're using cp, then use -x too04:21
GameOverhey everyone im using a ibm laptop... and the button u use as the scroll wheel doesnt work ... anyone know how to fix this?04:21
Shadyman_jason: Sorry, it's not quite what i was looking for.04:21
_jasonShadyman: sorry, what isn't/04:22
Nikusandoes anyone know how to use the 'ATI Control' app that is in xfce and kde in gnome?04:22
kb3eqaso its going to be: cp -a -x / /media/hdb104:22
Shadyman_jason: The "keyboard shortcuts" thing04:22
kb3eqa?04:22
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nullwell, if he follows my suggestionof booting live, then he doesn;t need to worry about -x04:22
haasteemhi, i have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem04:22
BoldStrike_jason: that seems to have worked. thnx again04:22
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_jasonShadyman: hrmm I must have misunderstood.  Didn't you want a shortcut you could start your media player with?04:23
_jasonBoldStrike: np04:23
michael__hello?04:23
michael__I need a lil help plz04:23
GameOverdoes anyone know how to get rid of the black frames around mpalyer when u go full screen or zooom in... the video doest get bigger only the b ars do04:23
Shadyman_jason: I already have a shortcut to start my media player. That came with Ubuntu. I just want to change what it starts.04:23
BoldStrikemichael__: just ask your question04:23
_jasonShadyman: yes, I wanted to do this once.  I couldn't find out how.  I finally resolved that I would instead create a new shortcut that opens the media player of my choice.  Basically the same thing just not as 'clean'04:24
nullGameOver, thats an mplayer specific question.04:24
null#mplayer will be best to answer that04:24
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GameOverdidnt know there was such a channel04:24
glaciousis there a way to FORCE gnome/xorg to use a certain Vertical Refresh Rate?04:24
michael__how do I install Mplayer. Something keeps telling me that I need to tweak something in the repository and I have no idea where that is.04:24
nullGameOver, though i would guess you're not having xv output04:24
_jasonubotu: tell michael__ about ask04:24
nulljust standard x1104:24
nullGameOver, mplayer -vo help04:25
_jasonubotu: tell michael__ about mplayer04:25
GameOverxv output?04:25
GameOverok ill check it out thanks04:25
Shadyman_jason: Yeah, only thing is, I know i changed it from XMMS to rhythmbox, it can't be that hard.04:25
arrinmurrGameOver: mplayer -vo xv file04:25
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_jasonmichael__: if you still have problems after reading the wiki, pastebin your error and give us the URL04:25
Shadyman_jason: Maybe i'll grep my log files.04:25
nullGameOver, anyway. best is to ask #mplayer. very nice people there04:25
BoldStrikemichael__: there you go...04:25
GameOverok will do thanks04:25
_jasonShadyman: really?  I thought default was rythmbox04:25
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dooglusmichael__: you type "sudo apt-get install mplayer-386"04:25
Shadyman_jason: Oh, might be when i played with another hotkeys app then04:26
nulldooglus, do you know what version of mplayer is in universe?04:26
nullis it a release version or cvs ?04:26
michael__@_@???04:26
dfolkinshi everyone04:26
_jason!info mplayer-38604:26
ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB04:26
dooglusnull: which version of ubuntu?04:26
nullbreezy04:26
michael__I think that I got both downloaded onto my desktop04:26
nullomg! thats pretty old!04:26
arrinmurrGameOver: you can also edit it to be the default in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf , or if you use gmplayer, you'll find the option in preferences04:26
dooglusnull: I don't think there's a version in universe in breezy04:26
nulldooglus, read what ubotu said just a few lines above04:27
nullVersion: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Pack...04:27
dooglusnull: I did.  did you?04:27
nulli did, and thats why i said its old04:27
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dooglusnull: ubotu is talking about the version in multiverse, not universe04:28
nuller.. sory.. i confuse universe and multiverse..04:28
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kb3eqanull04:28
BoldStrike_jason: one other question, if i wanted to say dump the entire .img file to create an actual directory tree on a disk partition, how would i do that?04:28
kb3eqawill cp -a -x preserve symlinks too?04:28
dfolkinsanyone care to answer a few semi-noob questions?04:28
nulli'm still not used to the various repo naming conventions04:28
dooglusthere was a new version of mplayer in dapper today04:28
dooglusii  mplayer-nogui        0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux04:28
frazmanw[!]  Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions.04:29
frazmanwInstead, they should be the same. If you have many compilers04:29
frazmanwinstalled, you can specify the correct one with command (in bash)  export CC=kgcc04:29
frazmanwbefore trying to install the driver. Replace kgcc with the command04:29
frazmanwrequired for compiling kernels (kgcc is often used in Red Hat systems).04:29
_jasonBoldStrike: not sure about that04:29
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tobeyased 's/breezy/dapper/g' </etc/apt/sources.list >/tmp/sources.list ; cp /tmp/sources.list /etc/apt ; apt-get dist-upgrade ; PRAY04:29
nullkb3eqa, man cp. what does it say? -a is archive.. is equivalent to -dpR04:29
BoldStrike_jason: i'm sure i use dd, just not sure how04:29
nullsee that?04:29
haasteemi have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem04:29
dooglusfrazmanw: it's gcc-3.4 that you need04:29
nullnow find out whats -d -p and -R for :)04:29
haasteemalso, thunderbird, gaim or xchat won't connect04:29
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frazmanwdooglus, I am trying to compile webcam driver kernel how do I spoecify04:30
nulldooglus, that pre7try2 is still old04:30
gatorgripanyone else have problems with add applications in dapper?04:30
dooglustobeya: do you know about "sed -i"?  it does the replace 'in place' so you don't need the "cp" step04:30
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kb3eqahmm null, it says -d "same as --no-dereference --preserve=link"04:30
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kb3eqathat seems like maybe what I want?04:30
sklavhey gusy when ubuntu says the enterprise edition does that mean aka i select server on the install?04:30
dooglusfrazmanw: I'm not sure.  if you remove "gcc-4.0" and only have gcc-3.4 installed it'll be ok though I think04:31
nullkb3eqa, :)04:31
gatorgripenterprise = free04:31
frazmanwdooglus, I didn't put gcc 4.0 in though did I?04:31
sklavgatorgrip, what does that mean?04:31
dooglusfrazmanw: 4.0 is the default04:31
sklavis there a different iso?04:31
gatorgripno04:31
frazmanwdooglus, so why remove it??? won't work?04:32
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gatorgripit says on the ubuntu firefox start page04:32
dooglussklav: Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms.04:32
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dooglussklav: ie. there *is* no enterprise edition...04:32
sklavok04:32
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timfrostdooglus, frazmanw, you can do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc3.4' before you run configure. That forces use of the gcc-3.4 binary04:32
kb3eqahmm, null, could you take a look at your cp man real quick? Theres an option -p (preserve mode, ownership, timestamps by default, if possible additional attributes: links, all)04:32
kb3eqathat seems like what I REALLY want, but its confusing me how I'd use it04:32
sklavi thought there was a certain install image like "server"04:32
dooglustimfrost: ok.04:32
frazmanwtimfrost, tks04:33
tobeyadooglus, I have this nasty habit of using traditional unix stuff and ignoring gnu extensions, although SRV5 sed might have it (haven't checked)04:33
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gatorgripthat's for setting up servers04:33
sklavonly enetrprise added more polish maybe different repos04:33
sklavi know04:33
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sklavi was curious04:33
sklavmore than anything04:33
TestDummyFirestarter keeps on asking me for a password every time I boot. Any ideas?04:33
sklavoem is an option thought04:33
tobeyaRHEL is not really polished anyways04:33
TestDummy(It's not that I don't know the password, I want to know why it's asking me about it)04:33
sklavtobeya, to be honest rhel is slightly more performant04:34
gatorgripwhat is the advantage of oem install?04:34
sklavnot by much04:34
tobeyathey should call it RHAEL - RH Almost Enterprise Linux04:34
nullkb3eqa, err.. what do you mean? cp -a /home/null /mnt/new_drive/home04:34
sklavoem allows the user to select the language they wish and s on04:34
nullthat'll put my home dir in that drive now. all symlinks included..04:34
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sklavfor people selling systems with ubuntu pre-installed04:34
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tobeyasklav, irrelevant when they can't even get their SAN support straight: without solid SAN support your OS doesn't belong in any "enterprise"04:35
sklavnot as a flame but rhel is handles load slightly better04:35
kb3eqaah, cool, permissions and all null?04:35
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frazmanwtimfrost, Warning: /usr/bin/gcc3.4 missing04:35
frazmanw is an error i got04:35
kb3eqaignore that null04:35
kb3eqaI figured it out04:35
sklavtobeya, i was reffering to load more than anything04:35
kb3eqaThanks for the advice :)04:35
tristanmikequestion: When I run Screensaver Preferences, I get an XScreensaver Warning: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.:". Launch it now?  Can someone explain what this means please?04:35
dooglusfrazmanw: install package 'gcc-3.4'04:35
sklavother than that no diff04:35
nullkb3eqa, good. i was just about to say 'read the man page _again_' ;)04:35
GameOverarrinmurr: how do i make it the default... can u tell me what line to write... no ones helpin me in mplayer04:35
tobeyasklav, it holds up OK but it still tanks under memory pressure from a stupid runaway mod_perl app04:36
nulltobeya, its called rhel because of the support the company offers.04:36
Shadyman_jason: Well, Maybe i can live with rhythmbox, even though it doesn't let me change file tags./04:36
interfearWhenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?04:36
nullother than that, theres not much else..04:36
sklavtobeya, i never said it was perfect hehe04:36
sklavim on ubuntu for a reason04:36
sklavi find deployement a hell of alot faster04:36
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_jasonShadyman: or you can create a new shortcut :), or if you really want a hack, change the binary :)04:36
tobeyanull, agreed ... not really worth it if you know linux though ... I managed 30 or so servers with RHEL subscriptions and only used support once and ended up with no resolution04:36
sklavno adding repos other than what is shipped04:37
kb3eqaIf you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a linux n00b, and these argument things confuse the hell out of me :P04:37
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Shadyman_jason: hehe. is it just me or does rhythmbox also not sync to ipods?04:37
sklavkb3eqa, ubuntu is great04:37
nulltobeya, i agree on that. but sometimes its better (from a company perspective) to have some company responsible for providing support04:37
_jasonShadyman: no idea on that one04:37
sklavdont let my confusion works its magic on you04:37
TestDummyNobody knows why Firestarter bugs me for password on login?04:37
tobeyanull, which is the only reason I pushed to get that support :)04:38
nullso as to not 'force' the sysadmin to know _everything_ :)04:38
_jasonTestDummy: because you set it to start at login?04:38
haasteemTestDummy: it's a program you must run as root04:38
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GameOverarrinmurr?04:38
TestDummyUh huh, and how do I change it to do that?04:38
sklavTestDummy, the firestarter website has a fix for that04:38
sklavi used it a while ago04:38
Doomhammeris it safe to remove PCI cards while linux is running ?04:38
sklavi have since switched to shorewall04:38
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ubuntu!w32codecs04:38
sklavDoomhammer, i dont recommend it04:38
ubotufrom memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install04:38
Doomhammersklav: awww, but i don't want to shut down :P04:39
haasteemTestDummy: there you go, i didnt know that... i always start it with password04:39
Doomhammersklav: but it's probobly safer :)04:39
tobeyadoes Dapper use gcc 3.4 for the kernel or 4.x?04:39
sklavDoomhammer, is your pci hot swappable?04:39
dooglustobeya: how can you tell?04:39
TestDummyI remember setting it up before and having it just start on login.04:39
nullDoomhammer, as your name says, i'd even say that you might try hitting it with a hammer04:39
interfearWhenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?04:39
sklavexample some dell poweredge servers and proliants are04:39
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nullcos you don;t want to shut it down.. please don;t make such crazy statements04:39
tobeyadooglus, I guess I'll query the packages just seeing if anybody knew off hand04:39
dooglustobeya: which packages would you query?04:40
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dinerHey04:40
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geneo93sklav:  have you tried mandria cooker as of late04:40
stevenjI cant remember who I was talking too about testing "flight 3" a while ago, but I installed nvidia-glx and X server still will not work..I also nvidia-glx-config enable too...any suggestions?04:40
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sklavgeneo93, i havent used a mandrake product since Mandrake 7.004:41
dinerIs there a way to see the address bar in nautilus?04:41
TestDummyhaasteem: Any ideas on how to fix the problem though?04:41
Steildiner: ctrl + l04:41
dooglusdiner: type control-l04:41
SteilL04:41
stevenjIs it possible to copy my breezy xorg config and use that in flight 3? It should be the same right?04:41
TestDummyI don't see anything on their site, and I'm not too sure about running it as root.04:41
tristanmikeis it safe to install a program on top of itself? I did an install, but there were options that i wanted to select but didn't and now I don't have the option?04:41
sklavi used to work for Mandrake Linux04:41
nullgeneo93, are you using cooker? its been quite a while since i used cooker04:41
tobeyadooglus, I'm looking at linux-image-`uname -r` -- already installed that bit -- deciding whether to keep gcc-3.4 or not04:41
Steilstevenj: yes04:41
geneo93sklav:  i have it here with 2.6.15 smp04:41
dinerSteil,dooglus:thank you so much guys04:41
TestDummyWait, I think I found it..04:41
sklavi hear its good is all i can say04:42
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sklavbut gentoo is pretty sweet when it comes time to installing packages04:42
stevenjSteil, thanks...I wonder wny xorg config does'nt auto setup as in breezy...is it that since its in testing its set as a default or something04:42
nullsklav, if 7.0 was the last version you used, then you haven't seen the good ones :(04:42
sklavnull, i loved 7.0 :(04:43
Steilstevenj: No idea, I upgraded from breezy04:43
nullheck no.. i loved 9.2. that was awesome!04:43
sklavi hated the fact that a kernel would blow the system out of the water04:43
Steilheh04:43
dinerSteil,dooglus:Is there a way to make the address bar viewable all the time?04:43
sklavthey used to rpm -Uvh kernel-x.x.x04:43
Steilstevenj: What do you tihink about xchat-gnome04:43
Steildiner: probably one of the gconf settings04:43
sklavinstead of rpm -ivh kernel-x.x.x.04:43
dooglusdiner: I didn't find it if there is04:43
sklavquite dumb04:43
dooglusdiner: those silly buttons are more "accessible" apparently04:44
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nullsklav, err.. maybe during those 7.0 days you speak of!04:44
sklavespecially since mandrake released kernels with experimental support04:44
dinerdooglus:I hate them04:44
diner:(04:44
sklavyes only during those days04:44
sklavhehe04:44
dooglusdiner: me too.  i stopped using nautilus altogether now04:44
stevenjSteil, not sure what you mean..are you asking me if I like xchat?04:44
sklavim actually contemplating trying mandriva 200604:44
nullanyway, you should know that 7.x wasn;t their 7.x release cos they started off from rh5.x iirc04:44
interfearWhenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?04:44
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sklavnull, they copied redhat those days and changed some things04:45
sklavminor04:45
Steilstevenj: xchat-gnome is the new default interface dapper uses04:45
krystoffhi there please is there anyone with problem with evolution in imap ?04:45
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nullsklav, i know. which is why i said their 7.x wasn;t a _real_ 7.x :)04:45
sklavthey officially went their own way in 8.0 - 9.004:45
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sklavi know04:45
nullsklav, anyway i loved cooker..04:45
sklavlike i mentionned i used too work for them04:45
nullyou know cooker used to get all the new stuff04:45
stevenjSteil, unfortunaly since I have not yet fixed xorg, I have not seen all the new stuff :)04:45
nullvery very fast04:45
krystoffcause here i'm in trouble there's no message in the list04:45
Steilahh04:45
sklavcooker was nice04:46
nulland all other distro were lagging04:46
Steilstevenj: what isn't working for you?04:46
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nullnow its levelled though04:46
sklavcooker also cooked the system04:46
krystoffbut i'm sure there's one in the imap folder04:46
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krystoffis there any known bug about this ?04:46
nullbut man, i was amazed at the packaging .. damn fast04:46
nulland cooker used to get all the free games as soon as they had some sort of release (or pre-release)04:46
adriyelnull, ain't it nice?04:46
sklavnull, they used some experimental gcc 4.x flag04:46
adriyelwant something? apt-get it04:46
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sklavfor all compilations04:46
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stevenjSteil, I clean install dapper flight 3 and everything installs fine...then x server fails (breezy works perfectly) I have a nvidia 520004:46
sklavsupposed 30% speed increase04:46
nulladriyel, not really. i will _always_ get cvs mplayer :)04:47
adriyelnull, why?04:47
adriyeloptimization?04:47
nullcos every packaged version of mplayer is old04:47
sklavstevenj, try sudo nvidia-config-glx enable04:47
mcdenyerhey i need help i installed Steam using wine and when i run it it works fine but i there is no text just buttons04:47
adriyelnull, *nods*04:47
stevenjSteil, someone suggested simply installing the nvidia driver, but that did'nt make a difference04:47
stevenjsklav, I did, but sadly it did not work04:47
nullnot the optimization.. more to do with bugfixes, new features, additional support for encoders, etc.04:48
dooglusnull: dapper's mplayer was taken from CVS around 24 hours ago - it's not too old.04:48
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nulldooglus, then good.04:48
tobeyastevenj, you will have difficulties with the latest nvidia driver straight from nvidia ... mainly that it doesn't play well with ubuntu's way of installing it04:48
Steilstevenj: when x fails to load, whats the output say?04:48
haasteemi have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem04:48
haasteemalso, thunderbird, gaim or xchat won't connect04:48
nulldooglus, but you mentioned a while back pre7try2 being in there?04:48
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dooglusnull it's mplayer (2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1) dapper04:48
sklavhaasteem, you need to add a dns server to /etc/resolv.conf04:48
tobeyahaasteem, does "iptables -n -L" show any more than, say 3-5 lines?04:48
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men1null: still no mplayer for dapper04:49
nullah ok..04:49
stevenjsklav, (I am installing ubuntu nvidia driver btw) something about the mouse, and the core? maybe04:49
tobeyahaasteem, err "sudo iptables -n -L"04:49
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nulldooglus, err.. did you just see what dooglus posted?04:49
haasteemtobeya: i don't know04:49
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nullsorry.. that was for meng04:49
dooglusnull: it's still in multiverse - that's probably the problem04:49
nullmen1, dooglus null it's mplayer (2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1) dapper04:49
tobeyahaasteem, run that command in a terminal04:49
haasteemtobeya: and i can"t chack right now as i am in windoze...04:49
sklavhaasteem, your dsl is connecting but maybe your not getting your dns entries04:49
tobeyahaasteem, ahh04:49
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sklavcheck /etc/resolv.conf04:49
purpleheart_USMCWhat is a packet loss?04:50
sklavis it empty?04:50
stevenjI have breezy up now, and I wondering if I can use the xorg config for dapper?04:50
doogluspurpleheart_USMC: it's when a packet gets lost...04:50
haasteemsklav: and i can't check right now as i am in windoze...04:50
sklavstevenj, mouse and core in your xorg?04:50
stevenjsklav, yes04:50
doogluspurpleheart_USMC: if you're talking about ping output, it means the ping packet was sent, and the response never came back - it got lost somewhere04:50
purpleheart_USMCdooglus: thank you04:50
haasteemtobeya: what does that command tell me?04:50
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sklavstevenj, what happens if you replace the nvidia with nv ? the default does it load?04:51
stevenjsklav that correct and the only that fails is ofcourse x server and resolver04:51
Syco54645how do i enable the route account04:51
tobeyahassteem, if it doesn't say ACCEPT a lot it means you have a firewall running that might be causing you trouble04:51
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stevenjsklav, it does not04:51
tobeyahaasteem, which is unlikely though04:51
underscore_Alright.04:51
haasteemtobeya: right04:51
men1dooglus: what is your multiverse deb line, the defaults does not seem to work?04:51
Syco54645i really want it so that i dont have to keep typing sudo over and over again04:51
haasteemtobeya: only thing i do run is firestarter04:51
underscore_Can someone give me the url to the resolution howto's?04:51
stevenjsklav, then I did a dpkg-reconfigure and took all the defaults but no difference04:52
haasteemtobeya: and then again, everything worked perfectly until last night...04:52
dooglusmen1: my whole sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/729904:52
sklavsteven u using dapper?04:52
sklavor breezy04:52
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haasteemtobeya: and i didn't do anything funny...04:52
stevenjsklav, I am using breezy right now, but I wanting to test dapper04:52
tobeyahaasteem, ahh make sure you also "cat /etc/resolv.conf" like somebody else mentioned04:52
stevenjsklav, I have trouble however with dapper04:52
mcdenyercan someone help me install tahoma.tff font?????04:52
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haasteemtobeya: i tried to do ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0, that didn't work04:53
sklavi have yet to install dapper04:53
tobeyahaasteem, your ISP may have changed its address for its name server04:53
sklavi think that is my weekend project this week04:53
Steilstevenj: have you tried just dist-upgrading to dapper?04:53
sklavhaasteem, are u suing pppoe for your isp?04:53
stevenjSteil, I have'nt04:53
mcdenyeri need help installing a font04:53
keveretsArgh.  My "Wireless Connection" isn't being activated at boot time by the NetworkManager.  I have to manually go into Network Settings each time and click "Activate".  How can I get it to do this on its own?04:54
haasteemsklav: uhh... not sure... i use adsl-start to connect (which still works)04:54
_jasonubotu: tell mcdenyer about fonts04:54
stevenjmy question is since its just x server thats failing (I am sure its the config) can I use my breezy xorg config that is currently working04:54
sklavadsl-start?04:54
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sklavhaasteem, u using ubuntu?04:54
sklavor fedora?04:54
haasteemsklav: yes04:54
Steilstevenj: your breezy xorg config should work fine04:54
haasteemubuntu04:54
La_PaRCaIs there a way I can rebuild the dpkg status file? Cuz its messing with my apt-get04:55
sklavrp-pppoe package is not part of ubunut is it?04:55
sklavhaasteem, try running pppoeconfig04:55
lysishey, anybody here know a program that i can print onto cd's with?   i'm getting an epson cd printer and i can't find any programs to print onto them with.  i have kcdlabel but it only does the front and back of cases; i need onto the disc itself.04:55
sklavthat should make sure its ubuntu compatible 100%04:55
stevenjSteil, I suppose thats what I will try then thanks04:56
haasteemsklav: adsl-start is a shell script which starts the Roaring Penguin user-space PPPoE client04:56
SteilNo problem04:56
sklavhaasteem, i know04:56
sklavive used it fro years04:56
haasteemoh.. ok04:56
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Steillysis: perhaps you could find a template for a cd?04:57
sklavhaasteem, the pppoeconf is what worked for me on ubuntu04:57
stevenjI have been reading that dapper is mostly stable for alpha04:57
geneo93if hardware is detected properly04:57
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lysisSteil, i've already got pictures.  i just need to know what prog to use to print the picture onto the disc04:58
haasteemsklav: alright... still i find it very odd that it suddenly stopped working properly, and as i said i was not doing anything exotic04:58
sklavhaasteem, im not sure04:58
sklavi had issues with rp-pppoe on ubuntu04:59
men1dooglus: the us.archives mirror is down?04:59
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lysisSteil, i've already tried kcdlabel and cdlabelgen     those are both for the books and papers.  i need the disc itself.04:59
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dooglusstevenj: "stable" isn't a word I'd use to describe dapper.  "ubuntu-desktop" won't install at the moment for instance.04:59
haasteemsklav: ok... this is the first time i run into trouble with it04:59
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mcdenyer_jason, hey i place my fonts in my /home/username/.fonts folder right?04:59
dooglusmen1: I don't use it.  I just use "archive.ubuntu.com"04:59
tobeyadooglus, I'm just grabbing pieces at a time ... looks like stuff like gnomevfs is out of date04:59
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men1dooglus: i dunno, the us mirror appears as a dapper default05:00
men1though i at malaysia now05:00
dooglustobeya: I expect ubuntu-desktop will be installable again soon05:00
Jimmi_jonesthought that I would stop by and let folks know that I got the internet radio associated with xmms like I was trying last night, thanks all, it just took a little monkeying.05:00
_jasonmcdenyer: yeah05:00
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haasteemsklav: if i check the resolv.conf, what should i look for? where do i find it? in /etc?05:01
stevenjdooglus, I see...I would just like to test it...if I ever get past x server issue.  Also I noticed that I get a lot of errors when doing apt-get update.  Not finding repos or something05:01
tobeyadooglus, likely05:01
men1dooglus: is there a list of dapper mirrors all over the world?05:01
sklavhaasteem, yes in etc05:01
dooglusstevenj: you could try the "flight 3" cd, and update from there05:01
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CS|Awayhow do I autodetect my sound and or video?05:02
dooglusmen1: I don't know, but mostly you can put <country-code>.archive.ubuntu.com I think?05:02
sklavand you should see nameserver 192.168.1.3 for example05:02
lysisCS|Away, it autodetects when you install.05:02
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lysis...05:02
lysisoookay . . .05:02
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dooglusmen1: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive05:03
stevenjdooglus, thats what I have a burned it last night...it installs and then craps out at x-server and resolver05:03
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nullsklav, 192.168.1.3 as nameserver?05:03
Steillysis: If you already have the images, I've just been reading and it appears you can use the gimp or any other image program to print to the cd, you just need the latest gutenprint drivers05:03
sklavno null05:03
nullit won;t work for anyone else!05:03
haasteemsklav: alright, that's the dns, right?05:03
sklavi said example for the formating05:03
sklavyes05:03
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underscore_brb05:04
sklavnameserver some.ip.address.05:04
dooglusstevenj: there were new X packages a few hours ago05:04
lawrenceWhen Ubuntu first unpacks it sends a message that it cannot detect my hardware clock and has tried every known method.  This seems to be causing issues all down the line because Totem will not play.  (my DVD writer will not write either).05:04
lysisSteil, so when i install the printer (it's on it's way) i just install the latest drivers and it'll work?     where did you read up on this?     not sure how i should've searched that is all.05:04
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underscore_Brb.05:04
dooglusstevenj: and xserver-xorg won't install at the moment: xserver-xorg: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed05:04
haasteemsklav: ok, would these be the same in windows? (btw, everything works in windows)05:05
Steillysis: the latest gutenprint drivers aren't in breezy, but they're in dapper... http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200 is where I looked05:05
sklavyes haasteem05:05
sklavipconfig /all05:05
lysisahh . . .05:05
sklavshould show you your dns servers ip address05:05
lysisSteil, did you happen to see if the latest gutenprint drivers CAN be put onto breezy?05:05
Steillysis: My search terms for google were "Printing cds in linux with epson cd printer"05:05
lysisSteil, thank you. =)05:06
regeyaooh, I have an R800...I've yet to figure out how to print to CD.05:06
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regeyafor that matter, I've yet to find out why I can't get cartridges locally.05:06
underscore_Hey.05:06
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haasteemsklav: ok, let me check05:06
stevenjdooglus, what are my options remake a cd? Will it be updated?05:06
lysisSteil, i was searching vaguely i assume.   "cd print linux program" is what i was doing.05:06
underscore_I just wanted to say thanks for the help.05:06
sklavk05:06
underscore_Sorry for being a pest.05:06
underscore_lol.05:06
Steillysis: You'll just have to try them and try I guess...you could build them yourself if you know how05:06
_jasonunderscore_: that's what this channel is here for05:06
lysisSteil, not a clue! =)05:07
underscore_Yeah, but I know you guys get a ton of questions.05:07
underscore_Especially repetitive ones.05:07
underscore_Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.05:07
regeyaSteil, I even own a license to TurboPrint, which gives an option to print direct to CD face, and even when I specify CD, I get nothin'05:07
lysisunderscore_, for linux?05:07
dooglusstevenj: you can run dapper, right?  enough to run apt-get and get new packages?05:07
factotumif i open an .ico image in gimp and save it as a .png, can i use it as an icon in gnome?05:07
underscore_lysis - What else would the question be for?05:07
underscore_:D05:07
Steillysis: then I'd recommend you wait and see if theres a backport or if someone else has released debs05:08
mengnull + dooglus: thanks alot for the help, mplayer would work, but missing w32codecs only05:08
stevenjdooglus, because I do a sudo apt-get update and it gives me all this "stuff" about cannot find the repos and I even took the 'us' out in the sources.list05:08
regeyaI went through much hell with this printer at christmas time.05:08
Steilregeya: it's dependant on print driver, not on the program05:08
lysisunderscore_, where can i get this turboprint.05:08
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underscore_You're asking the wrong guy.05:08
dooglusstevenj: did you see the sources.list I pasted earlier?05:08
haasteemsklav: what about the DHCP server? when i tried to do ifup eth0, it said it couldn't find dhcpoffers or something like that05:08
keveretsah, the gui network manager sucks ass.  Modifying /etc/network/interfaces fixed my problem (it was putting eth0 as the hotpluggable interface, which doesn't exist, and the "auto wlan0" came after the iface, which I suspect is malformed.05:08
nullmeng, well, you could try extracting that all-2005...tar.bz2 in /usr/lib/win3205:08
stevenjdooglus, I did not, but I would much like to have it05:08
Steilregeya: Do you have an Epson printer?05:08
nullmeng, it could work05:08
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regeyalysis, I brought it up, so here goes.  Google would get you there easily, btw; it's the first search result.  http://www.turboprint.de/english.html05:09
sklavhaasteem, pppoe doesnt work threw dhcp directly05:09
nulli think its got a subdir inside that tar.bz2.. you'll want to just keep all the files in /usr/lib/win3205:09
sklavit uses a kernel driver or a user space driver05:09
dooglusstevenj: I use this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/729905:09
regeyaSteil, an Epson Stylus Photo R80005:09
Steilahh05:09
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dooglusstevenj: you can comment out the deb-src lines if you don't use source packages05:09
Steilregeya: you get it working eventually?05:09
stevenjdooglus, thanks05:09
regeyagreat print quality, but a cantankerous li'l s.o.b.  yep, but with proprietary drivers (turboprint)05:09
sklavyour receiving an ip threw ppp and not dhcp exactly05:10
Steilahh05:10
sklavturboprint works very well05:10
CS|Awayuh, guys, I dont know what my video card is05:10
regeyaindeed it does.05:10
sklavi use them for my cannon ip500005:10
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haasteemsklav: ok... that is all new to hear for me :)05:11
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stevenjdooglus, do I replace my entire sources.list with that?05:11
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dooglusstevenj: yes.  keep a backup just in case, but that's all I ever use05:11
perry753hello internet!05:11
nemikhello, i am installing a second hard drive (brand new). i just tried to make a primary ext3 partition on it with gparted and it is just stuck. does this take a while?05:11
sklavhaasteem, dhcp is being used yes but pppoe requires authentication first05:11
mengdooglus: mplayer has issues with alsa output05:11
sklavwhich is what ppp does05:11
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sklavno dhcp till you authenticate05:11
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stevenjdooglus, Oh I see...you just have everything on one line05:12
dooglusmeng: I use "ao=oss" in my ~/.mplayer/config05:12
haasteemsklav: ok05:12
sklavwould be nice if manufactures supported turboprint05:12
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dooglusstevenj: I don't see any reason not to put it all on one line.  it makes it much clearer05:12
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sklavthen we users would have to pay for drivers that we should have had05:12
nemikshould making a partition in gparted take a long time? on a 320GB drive?05:12
sklavits a downside but if their listed as working they will work from my experience05:13
blacksmaking partitions should be damn near instant05:13
blacksmaking a filesystem, not more than a minute or so probably05:13
nullmeng, like i said earlier.. if you think its aproblem with mplayer, talk about it in #mplayer05:13
stevenjdooglus, yes05:13
nemikblacks: that's what i thought05:13
Blakmaller_19[[[ who speak spanish?? ] ] ] 05:13
nullanyway, i'm going to sleep for a while now05:13
haasteemsklav: sorry that i keep on asking things... what does this mean concerning the fact that with adsl-start i have no problem, i.e. it says connected?05:13
_jason!es05:13
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:13
regeya!spanish05:13
ubotuI heard spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda05:13
blacksnemik, could be that it's scanning for bad blocks05:13
regeya!tell Blakmaller_19 about spanish05:13
sklavhaasteem, do the following ifconfig eth005:13
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nemikblacks: ohhh so that will take forever then....05:13
Steilsklav: the free drivers never work well for you?05:14
sklavand see if you have an ip address05:14
CSnowhello?05:14
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CSnowhow do I know what video or audio card i have?05:14
haasteemsklav: i did that, and i don't have one05:14
blacksnemik, I partitioned mine manually, so I don't know what kind of funky stuff gparted does05:14
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Blakmaller_19[[[ jajaj ] ] ] 05:14
Blakmaller_19[[[ yes ] ] ] 05:14
regeyaBlakmaller_19, what's with the brackets05:14
sklavhaasteem, in your /var/log/messages you will see something like time out waiting for pado packets05:14
nemikblacks: well it seems to be done now...yes i should done it manually too!05:14
nullmust be his nick completion05:15
haasteemsklav: for ppp and lo it gives ip addresses05:15
nullgod.. you guys with crazy nick completions05:15
tonyyarusso!ati05:15
ubotuati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1005:15
regeya(I like (to think (of (parens (of (being (my friends)))))))05:15
sklavhaasteem, did you specify ppp0 to be your default gateway?05:15
regeyawhoops nick completion...yeah, that's it.05:15
nullregeya, go away to #lisp05:15
regeyaI don't have to listen to you, you don't exist05:15
nullsure i do.05:16
nullsee my messages?05:16
regeyayou're just undefined05:16
CanYouHelpMePlznow now, stop fighting.05:16
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haasteemsklav: i don't know... :(05:16
Blakmaller_19[[[ who?? ] ] ] 05:16
KnelixGuys, I need to get ndiswrapper installed on a laptop for a friend...05:16
regeyalol05:16
nullnot really..05:16
regeyaStop it Blakmaller_1905:16
nullblacks, you just segfaulted05:16
sklavhaasteem, try the pppoeconf from ubuntu05:16
nulltoo bad05:16
sklavand see if it makes a difference05:16
Blakmaller_19[[[ ?? ] ] ] 05:16
haasteemsklav: ok05:16
KnelixI'm looking at the instructions, but they seem a little complex for me...05:16
nullBlakmaller_19, stop the brackets!!05:17
blacksno I'm just experiencing undefined operation05:17
blacksheheh05:17
regeyaI'm assuming that you have a script that adds brackets to everything you say, Blakmaller_19.  Please stop.05:17
regeyacease and desist.05:17
haasteemsklav: what are those pado packets by the way?05:17
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sklavhaasteem, those usually mean there is an issue communicating with your telco05:17
sklavtelco = ISP05:18
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Steilheh I want a macbook :S05:18
sergio_hello05:18
sergio_i am problems installing a wireless card05:18
tonyyarussoI have an ATI video card, lspci reports "ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460".  When I run screensavers with the "show framerate" option checked to see what mine is, it's only about 10.  Is this normal?05:18
rocketman327so I'm trying to configure a kernel and I run "make xconfig" and it tells me that it can't find the command gcc-3.4 but I have gcc-4.0 installed so I'm confused, any ideas?05:18
CanYouHelpMePlzyou are problems, sounds shitty.05:18
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sklavtonyyarusso, 10 fps is not normal05:18
rocketman327tonyyarusso: depends on the card?05:19
sklavare you using the ati drivers?05:19
tonyyarussosklav, Anything I can do about it?05:19
Blakmaller_19[[[ ?? ] ] ] 05:19
regeyaSteil, I don't blame you.  I'm excited about the Mactel boxes.  I wonder...does x86 Ubuntu install on an intel imac?05:19
sklavinstall fglx or something like that05:19
tonyyarussosklav, I'm using the default from install.05:19
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Steilno idea05:19
nullBlakmaller_19, spare us the brackets. just don;t speak ;)05:19
sklavits equivalent to the nvidia-glx05:19
SteilI wouldn't run linux on a mac05:19
dooglusstevenj: any luck with my sources.list?  did it help?05:19
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tonyyarussosklav, The wiki page for that said it's for 9xxx only though.05:19
CanYouHelpMePlzrocketman327: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.405:19
sergio_how do u use ndiswrapper?05:19
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pradeeperHi guys, I would like to contribute to ubuntu with some cool wallpapers and with some arts, how can I do that? and what are the conditions?05:19
haasteemsklav: ok, thanks for now... i will go see if i can get it solved05:19
tonyyarussosklav, I'm guessing from my lspci output that's not mine.05:20
Blakmaller_19jijiji05:20
sklavtonyyarusso, which card?05:20
naliothCanYouHelpMePlz: please watch your choice of words in here, please05:20
stevenjdooglus, I am at my apartment (not at my house) so I only have one box to play with and so I am about to retry05:20
nullwow.. finally you learn Blakmaller_19 :)05:20
sklavno Problem haasteem05:20
Blakmaller_19jajaj05:20
tonyyarussosklav, All I know is the output above.  Can you help me find out more?05:20
mcdenyerhow much better is cedega to wine?05:20
sklavhope thta it helps05:20
Blakmaller_19sorry05:20
CanYouHelpMePlznalioth: censorship is wrong.05:20
nullno worries.05:20
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Blakmaller_19i'm chilean05:20
rocketman327CanYouHelpMePlz: wow, I feel dumb... but why would I want to downgrade?  oh yea, gcc-4.0 is bad05:20
sklavtonyyarusso, which video card did you buy for example 9600?05:20
naliothCanYouHelpMePlz: there is no need for vulgarities in here.05:20
dooglusstevenj: you can use irssi from a virtual console...05:21
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sklavx800 ?05:21
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Jeffihi05:21
CanYouHelpMePlzrocketman327: it's not a downgrade, you can have 3.4 and 4.0 at the same time, some programs use 3.4 obviousl :-)05:21
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doogluspradeeper: the art team's page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam05:21
Jeffican anyone help me?05:21
rocketman327CanYouHelpMePlz: yea, I forgot about that switch.05:21
pradeeperthanks dooglus05:21
Jeffii'm trying to set up the root password05:21
Jeffibut failing miserably05:21
tonyyarussosklav, I didn't buy the card separately, just using what came with the computer.  I might be able to find out what that should be (sometimes that parts lists don't say all that much).  I'll look though...05:21
_jasonJeffi: you shouldn05:22
stevenjdooglus, nice05:22
SteilCanYouHelpMePlz: There's a difference between censorship and asking someone politely to stop using language found to be offensive.05:22
Blakmaller_19i can order cd's of ubuntu??05:22
_jasonubotu: tell Jeffi about root05:22
dooglusJeffi: all you need to do is "sudo passwd"05:22
mengdooglus: what would i need to see .mkv subtitles?05:22
Jeffiwhere05:22
tritiumJeffi: see the URL I had ubotu send you05:22
nullBlakmaller_19, sure.. shipit.ubuntu05:22
CanYouHelpMePlzrocketman327: did that command work for you? ;-)05:22
_jasonJeffi: do not do that until you read the danger in the link ubotu sent you05:22
dooglusmeng: I never heard of .mkv05:22
mengmatroska format05:22
rocketman327CanYouHelpMePlz: yes it did, thanks05:22
sklavtonyyarusso, the reason why im asking is sometimes the chipset might be reported inproperly05:22
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Jeffiwhere?05:22
PuMpErNiCkLeBlakmaller_19: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/05:22
_jasonJeffi: ubotu sent you a priv msg05:22
dooglusJeffi: in a terminal.  but there's no need - just use 'sudo' to get root access05:22
naliothJeffi: look at your private messages05:22
tonyyarussosklav, I see.05:23
rocketman327well I'm off to go configure a kernel.. peace y'all05:23
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Blakmaller_19oh thanks05:23
lysishey guys,  i'm reading about installing the guten drivers for my printer.  Check the debian/control file for05:23
lysisrequired packages need to compile in debian.05:23
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lysiswhere can i check this control file/  i want to make sure i have all the dependencies i need.05:23
sklavim off to bed myself also05:23
sklavi gotta be up for 5:00am05:23
sklavtonyyarusso, try the ati drivers05:23
sklavis a recommendation05:24
sklavmost of the recent chipset use it05:24
tonyyarussosklav, Okay, will do.  (It's a new computer, so that sounds good.)05:24
mengdooglus: mplayer also has alsa output issues, any idea?05:24
Blakmaller_19is necessary who i write the postcode??05:25
SteilAnyone else notice the proliferation of very questionable advice on the forums? (e.g. "You must set a root password in order to export environment variables to compile kernel modules")05:25
naliothmeng: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html05:25
Blakmaller_19is necessary who i write the postcode??05:25
nullBlakmaller_19, i think so.05:25
sklavtonyyarusso, most cards are supported by the new driver .. or so im told05:25
yywhaha05:25
yywharhar05:26
nullmeng, why do you keep saying mplayer has alsa issues here?05:26
null#mplayer can help you better and more importantly they _want_ to hear of these issues05:26
mengmine is from the ubuntu repos05:26
tonyyarussosklav, "64MB ATI Radeon X300"05:26
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nullmeng, so? did they kick you out saying you can;t speak about it?05:26
sklavtonyyarusso, i think you need the ati drivers ;)05:26
nulljust tell them its not compiled by yourself. and are having this problem..05:27
mcdenyerhey to make a ubuntu boots disc i just copy the iso to a cd right?05:27
mengnull: good point in a way05:27
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nulland is it a problem with the packaging?05:27
naliothmcdenyer: burn iso as image05:27
tonyyarussosklav, Okay.  Off I go to get them!05:27
yywhello everyone!05:27
sklavi be back tommorow05:27
sklavhopefully u will be up and running05:27
sklav;)05:27
mcdenyerso when looking at the cd it shows up as just one .iso file right?05:27
NobodyHerehey all, I'm having a major problem with postfix, and I'm fairly certain it is ubuntu-specific.  Can anyone help?05:27
Blakmaller_19i'm of chile and i don't know who is my postcode05:27
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sklavtonyyarusso, also the ati site has links for which drivers work with their cards05:27
sklavand there are linux references05:28
mcdenyernalioth so when looking at the cd it shows up as just one .iso file right?05:28
naliothBlakmaller_19: que idioma?05:28
tonyyarussosklav, Good to know.  I'll look there too.05:28
nullBlakmaller_19, is there a postoffice nearby? or if not nearby do you have thephone number of the office?05:28
Kr0ntabsup folks...05:28
sklavmost point to the fglx05:28
dooglusmeng: I use oss, not alsa, for mplayer sound.05:28
naliothmcdenyer: your cd burning soft should recognize the iso imaga and burn it as such (burn as image)05:28
tristanmikeHow can I test my Frames Per Second? When I initalize glxgears I don't a FPS output, is there any other way?05:28
mengnull: mplayer seems a little harsh about people packing stuff05:28
sklavi use alsa for mplayer05:28
cdubyaNobodyHere, what's the problem you're having?05:28
nullyou can try calling them up and asking for the postcode05:28
tristanmikequestion: When I run Screensaver Preferences, I get an XScreensaver Warning: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.:". Launch it now?  Can someone explain what this means please?05:29
mcdenyernalioth yeah ok ty05:29
sklavok sleep i sgood and me want some05:29
nullmeng, yes. which is why i said tell them its not compiled by yourself. its theres anything you can do in the situation other than compiling yourself.05:29
sklavlater all05:29
naliothubotu: tell meng about mplayer05:29
nullnalioth, hes trying to get mplayer working on dapper iirc05:29
NobodyHerecdubya: postfix is not following the transport table.  The table is listed in main.cf, postfix notices when the transport.db file changes, but ignores it and keeps trying to deliver mail directly.  It will then mysteriously start working, then stop working05:29
naliothmeng, mplayer is one application that can really stand being compiled by you.05:29
nullyes!05:30
nulli will always compile mplayer by hand :)05:30
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sklavi use xine and to be honest its just as good05:30
sklavas mplayer05:30
Kr0ntabtristanmike: it simply means that the Xscreensaver service is not running.  display :0 is yer current X window process. Just agree to that you can run a screensaver.05:30
Blakmaller_19nalioth  ----> espaol05:30
Blakmaller_19nalioth  ----> castellano05:30
mengsklav: i would use xine, but it lacks support for .mkv05:30
sklavi never heard of .mkv05:31
naliothubotu: tell Blakmaller_19 about es05:31
naliothsklav: it's matroska video format05:31
tristanmikeKr0ntab, ok, thanx, do you know what may have cause it?05:31
nullsklav, which cave have you been living in?05:31
bur[n] er_totem-xine plays .mkv for me05:31
naliothmeng: you can use vlc to play mkv files05:31
nullmeng, just get vlc05:31
Sohmchello!!  I just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.05:31
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sklavim ina  a cave? hehe05:31
mengfor ubuntu, VLC crashes down hard playing it05:31
Kr0ntabtristanmike: its not an error.... just letting you make the choice to whether or not you want to enable it.05:32
bur[n] er_meng: tried totem-xine w/w32codecs package?05:32
Blakmaller_19nalioth ??05:32
mengjust click to play and it just crashes all the time05:32
Kr0ntabtristanmike: justa  first time thing05:32
naliothBlakmaller_19: look to your private messages05:32
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nullmeng, really, then just compile mplayer. don;t tell me now that you don;t have experience compiling and installing packages on your own05:32
sklavmeng im using the w32codecs05:32
mengtotem xine is okay05:32
tristanmikeKr0ntab, oh, cool then, thanx a bunch05:32
Kr0ntabnp05:32
tristanmikehow do I get the "greyed out" screen savers?05:32
Blakmaller_19nalioth : where??05:33
mengnull: my previous gig was for RH and speficially gaim only05:33
Blakmaller_19nalioth : where i see that??05:33
naliothBlakmaller_19: do you have any new tabs or windows from ubotu ?05:33
nullprevious gig?05:33
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nullmeng, i don;t know what you are referring to with 'gig'05:33
mengsry, experience05:33
phos-phoroslinux is going on tour?05:33
naliothnull: gig = job05:33
dooglus"Matroska is an open standards project. This means for personal use it is absolutely free to use".  Wouldn't it be better to use a professional standard like .wmv?  You get what you pay for after all.05:33
Sohmcsorry to ask again ---  I could use some help on a new install05:33
mengi managed to compile gaim easily as compared to mplayer, which is harder to do05:33
nullmeng, why exactly are you running dapper?05:33
nullno.. mplayer is just as easy05:34
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Blakmaller_19nalioth : tabs??05:34
mengnull: Firefox is riddiculously slow on breezy05:34
naliothBlakmaller_19: what irc client do you use?05:34
Kr0ntabfirefox 1.5 is sooo much faster05:34
Blakmaller_19nalioth : totex05:34
meng1.0.7 for ubuntu is slow compared to even the same thing for windows05:34
blacksits very easy to install 1.5 on breezy05:35
nullmeng, you don't have to tell me. i know firefox is ridiculously slow on _all_ damn platforms and oses05:35
naliothBlakmaller_19: no seh totex, mira ubotu05:35
nalioth!es05:35
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:35
bur[n] er_null: it's fast on windows for me05:35
mengno, ubuntu's 1.0.7 is just nonsense05:35
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nullbah..05:35
SohmcI just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.05:35
bur[n] er_dapper's 1.4.99 is ok05:35
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Kr0ntabto install firefox 1.5....   heres one of the many how-to's    http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/05:35
koharskianyone using dapper?05:35
Blakmaller_19totex is a script05:35
mengi have more extensions on windows and it would run ubuntu's in circles05:36
koharskiI can't get mozilla-psm to install on firefox05:36
bur[n] er_koharski: sure, que pasa?05:36
naliothBlakmaller_19: google will tell you your postal code05:36
Jeffiok im still having trouble pasting objects05:36
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Blakmaller_19oh thanks05:36
nullnalioth, it will?05:36
naliothkoharski: what are you doing and what errors are you getting?05:36
Jeffii tell it to copy the files05:36
naliothnull: it tell me mine05:36
Jeffithen i go to paste and its not highlighted05:36
NobodyHerewell this is just great, third time I've tried to get help with my postfix problems and nobody knows or gives a shit.05:37
Jeffiso i cant05:37
nulland you are in the US ?05:37
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bur[n] er_koharski: no idea, I don't use that05:37
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tonyyarussoWoah.  The instructions for changing my video card driver actually say to reboot.  I think that's the first time I've seen a wiki page say that.05:37
naliothNobodyHere: do you want us to make up stuff to help you?05:37
doogluskoharski: mozilla-psm is broken in dapper at the moment05:37
koharskiyeah05:37
JeffiCan anyone help me?05:37
KnelixHey, I can't even install ndiswrapper.05:37
koharskiis there any way to be able to acess sites like gmail?05:37
KnelixI try the make command and get command not found.05:38
naliothnull: join #ubuntu-offtopic please05:38
bur[n] er_Jeffi: permissions problem05:38
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tonyyarussokoharski, I think I've heard yes, but don't know it.05:38
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naliothKnelix: install build-essential05:38
underscore_Man.05:38
Jeffiwell i'm logged into sudo i guess05:38
Jeffiw/e that means05:38
bur[n] er_koharski: i can05:38
underscore_My mom wants to install ubuntu now.05:38
koharskihmm.... thanks anyway05:38
koharskiyour mom?05:38
underscore_She likes the games. That's the only reason she wants to install.05:38
Knelixnalioth: Quick way to do this?05:38
underscore_Yeah.05:38
koharskihaha05:38
bur[n] er_koharski: sudo apt-get install firefox  ??05:38
doogluskoharski: you can access sites like gmail.com.  you'll need a web browser.05:38
scanwinderdoes anyone know if there's a way to get sound in the mozilla flash plugin working with alsa?05:38
underscore_Plus she likes the workspaces.05:38
naliothKnelix: in terminal, type sudo apt-get install build-essential05:38
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dooglusunderscore_: that's the same reason my Mum installed ubuntu05:39
koharskidoogleus, I know THAT, I have deer park. I can't get to any secure sutes cause I don't have mozilla-psm05:39
SohmcHello, could I get some help mounting my hard drive?05:39
underscore_hm05:39
bur[n] er_koharski: u don't need mozilla-psm... i dont' have it, i can access gmail05:39
koharski:o05:39
_jasonscanwinder: use aoss to start firefox: 'aoss firefox' (you need to install alsa-aoss)05:39
doogluskoharski: you don't need mozilla-<anything> to access secure sites with deer park05:39
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koharskihmm05:40
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dt-Hey all I have a question05:40
doogluskoharski: what bur[n] er_ said.05:40
bur[n] er_koharski: maybe you have ssl sites firewalled?  try with konqueror?  I would just apt-get install firefox and be done with it05:40
underscore_Intriguing.05:40
Sohmchello??05:40
dt-since I am new to Linux/etc05:40
koharskimaybe I should update05:40
koharskibrb05:40
dt-anyone? >_>05:40
JeffiAnyone have a suggestion on how to make it so i can copy/paste stuff05:40
bur[n] er_koharski: good luck05:41
bur[n] er_dt-: we're waiting for the freakin question05:41
scanwinder_jason: im using opera and, there's no alsa-aoss in the repository,theres a alsa-oss tho05:41
doogluskoharski: try making a new firefox profile - maybe you're blocking some cookies in the current one?05:41
dt-lol05:41
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intelikey /sbin/start-stop-daemon == empty file  ???05:41
koharskiI usually update weekly05:41
sampandt, it's better to just ASK your question, instead of asking to ask it ;)05:41
underscore_Question.05:41
_jasonJeffi: highlight what you want to copy, and then paste by middle clicking05:41
dt-so ubuntu contains the Gnome05:41
koharskiI guess it should be daily with dapper :P05:41
underscore_BitchX, or XChat?05:41
_jasonscanwinder: yeah, sorry that's the correct nama05:41
bur[n] er_Jeffi: fix your permissions, you can't read the files you're trying to copy or you're trying to paste in a folder you don't have write priveleges to05:41
dt-meaning just the image would cover everything?05:41
SohmcI just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.05:41
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Jeffiwell05:41
dooglusdt-: there are often updates several times an hour at the moment...05:41
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bur[n] er_koharski: worked as long as I can remember ;)05:41
Jeffiits /usr/local/games impossible to get permissions on>?05:42
doogluskoharski: there are often updates several times an hour at the moment...05:42
scanwinder_jason: ok, do you know how to get it to work in opera? i have alsa-oss installed and dosent work05:42
bur[n] er_Sohmc: won't load?  as in won't install files to it? or won't boot after you've done an install?05:42
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dt-dooglus what does that mean?05:42
dooglusdt-: sorry, I addressed you by mistake.05:42
tonyyarussoWell, here goes nothing...05:42
Knelixnalioth: It's giving me errors... saying it can't find the server path for some components.05:42
underscore_Time to google.05:42
underscore_:D05:42
_jasonscanwinder: you ran opera by doing 'aoss opera'?  (I don't use opera but I think this should work)05:42
Sohmcbur[n] er_, I'm sorry...I meant won't mount05:42
Jeffiis /usr/local/games impossible to get permissions on>?05:42
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dooglusdt-: ubuntu contains GNOME, yes.  and kubuntu contains KDE.  choose which you want.05:43
intelikeywould one of you gents care to have a look at your /sbin/start-stop-daemon and see if it actually does anything please ?05:43
_jasonJeffi: that's owned by root05:43
scanwinder_jason: oh rite no i just opened it normally...ok thanks05:43
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SohmcI have two hard drives: /dev/hda /dev/hdb05:43
bur[n] er_Sohmc: aww... well, got me ;) sorry man... ext2fs maybe?05:43
Jeffiis there anyway i can get acess to it?05:43
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_jasonJeffi: with sudo, but what are you trying to do?05:43
Sohmcubuntu is installed and working on /dev/hda05:43
bur[n] er_Jeffi: heard of sudo?05:43
Jeffitrying to move files to that directory05:43
JeffiYes05:43
dooglusunderscore_: BitchX or XChat?  what's wrong with you?  irssi is the answer :)05:43
Sohmcwell, I don't want to format /dev/hdb...it has data on it05:43
Jeffii did the command that site told me to do05:43
Jeffibut it didnt do anything05:44
_jasonJeffi: what command was that05:44
bur[n] er_Jeffi: use sudo... if you don't know what I mean by that, don't move files to /usr/local/games and just put them in your ~/05:44
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underscore_I liked irssi when I used it because I broke my xorg.conf05:44
underscore_rofl05:44
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Jeffiwhats my ~/05:44
dt-also, if I want to install the non-live version, do I need to partition my HD?05:44
underscore_eh05:44
sampanirssi is what bitchx -wishes- it could be05:44
Jeffii went to applications05:44
_jasonJeffi: /home/username/05:44
naliothubotu: tell Jeffi about cli05:44
Jeffiand systemtools05:44
dooglusunderscore_: it works inside X too :)05:44
dt-it's already divided into C, D, E, F though05:44
underscore_.. ~/ = your home/username05:44
mcdenyernalioth,  it didnt work05:44
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dt-currently has windows05:44
intelikeySohmc do a 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb '   and see what partition type and number/s  it returns05:44
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bur[n] er_underscore_: irssi is nice to put in a screen you can reattach should your gnome or kde or whatever need to be restarted ;)05:44
mcdenyernalioth i have the .iso on a disc05:44
Jeffiand typed in sudo05:44
Jeffiand it asked me the password05:44
Jeffiand i typed it in05:45
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mcdenyernalitoh and it didnt boot from it05:45
naliothubotu: tell mcdenyer about verify05:45
Jeffiit didnt do anything05:45
underscore_bur[n] er_: How would I do that? :D05:45
_jasonJeffi: you need to reread the wiki page05:45
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dooglusdt-: the install disk will take care of repartitioning for you05:45
bur[n] er_ubotu: tell Jeffi about sudo05:45
underscore_I'm going to idle in here.05:45
naliothmcdenyer: your iso has to be interepreted by the software and placed on a cd-r05:45
ubuntucd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?05:45
underscore_And read.05:45
Jeffi..05:45
nullis thunderbird 1.5 available for breezy ?05:45
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Jeffiplease stop sending me that page05:45
naliothmcdenyer: a file.iso will not boot as a file.iso05:45
dooglusdt-: it will offer to wipe windows, or resize an existing windows partition05:45
Jeffiit doesnt help05:45
underscore_Nine times out of ten, you'll answer a question I'll more than likely ask.05:45
seth|lappynull, no05:45
Sohmcintelikey, it says it doesn't contain a partition table05:45
Jeffiok05:45
naliothJeffi: it DOES help if you read it05:45
dt-dooglus: ah, and it won't erase the previous data right?05:45
dt-oh ok05:45
JeffiI read it05:45
bur[n] er_underscore_: man screen, or apt-get install screen && man screen05:45
nullsethk, any idea when it will be available ?05:46
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dt-thanks dooglus05:46
bur[n] er_Jeffi: read it05:46
JeffiWant to help me decipher some of it?05:46
naliothbur[n] er_: screen is default in *buntu05:46
bur[n] er_Jeffi: "sudo programtolaunch"05:46
Jefficause most of it was gibberish05:46
intelikeySohmc and you are sure it is on ide0 slave ?05:46
mengthanks a ton to ya all05:46
bur[n] er_Jeffi: for example, "sudo nautilus"05:46
sampandt-  make sure you DEFRAG your windows before you install -- i broke a windows install by forgetting to do so once and some key files got overwritten05:46
dooglusdt-: it's a good idea to back up first, 'cos resizing a partition is never 100% safe, but I've never had problems doing it (and I've done it TWICE!)05:46
underscore_Alright..05:46
intelikeytry /dev/hdc Sohmc05:46
underscore_I have screen..05:46
bur[n] er_Jeffi: it's not, and if you don't understand it, I'd say re-read it05:46
Mabus06My entire system has been acting goofy lately, what I'd like to do is reformat the hard drive that has ubuntu on it as ntfs for my windows primary master drive, and then later install ubuntu again. How do I reformat the drive for Windows to use?05:46
Jeffiok05:46
naliothbur[n] er_: no no no dont do that05:46
bur[n] er_nalioth: neato ;)05:46
Jeffitell me this05:46
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mcdenyernalioth, i guess i ll just update then05:46
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Jeffihow do i get to a folder on my desktop05:46
dt-oh ok05:46
nalioth!gksudo05:46
ubotumethinks gksudo is Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.05:46
dt-thanks all05:46
Sohmcintelikey, yes.../dev/hdb was working fine right before I installed ubuntu05:46
dt-night05:46
siriuskrhey does anyone know when KDE 4 is being released ?05:47
sampandt-  good luck! :)05:47
naliothbur[n] er_: running nautilus using sudo will cause trouble05:47
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bur[n] er_nalioth: what else do I tell the guy? ;)  he won't read05:47
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naliothbur[n] er_: use gksudo05:47
underscore_I'm going to partition, and dual boot win3.105:47
underscore_:$05:47
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Jeffisay the folder name is "hello" on my desktop05:47
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underscore_And taunt you with my windows-user coolness.05:47
bur[n] er_nalioth: wtf are you talking about?  they're the same thing... run xterm... run sudo, alls well05:47
Jeffiin terminal how do i get to that folder05:47
dooglusdoes anyone believe ubotu's !gksudo warning about "sudo scrambles you account permissions"?05:47
Sohmcintelikey, /dev/hdb reports back with cylinders and block and stuff...so the drive is recignized05:47
bur[n] er_Jeffi: cd ~/Desktop/hello05:47
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intelikeySohmc any chance you let it blank the disk durring partitioning05:47
Jeffithank you05:47
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bur[n] er_!terminal05:48
naliothbur[n] er_: they are not the same. running nautilus (or lots of gtk apps) with sudo cause permissioning problems in userland05:48
underscore_!codec05:48
ubotuunderscore_: Are you smoking crack?05:48
Sohmcintelikey, if I did, it wasn't intentional05:48
underscore_:/05:48
siriuskr##When trying to run a exe installer in wine i get a error saying cant find c:/windows/system32/FILE.dll  Anyone know how to fix this ?05:48
bur[n] er_nalioth: oh really... my bad ;)05:48
underscore_Hm.05:48
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Sohmcintelikey, is there is anyway that I can find out for sure?05:48
underscore_I need to see how much drive space I have.05:48
mark__crimsun, hey you there?05:48
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Jeffiit says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory05:48
Mabus06ubotu, tell underscore_ about restricted05:48
dooglusnalioth: why do you say that?05:48
_jasonsiriuskr: does the file exist?05:48
Mabus06My entire system has been acting goofy lately, what I'd like to do is reformat the hard drive that has ubuntu on it as ntfs for my windows primary master drive, and then later install ubuntu again. How do I reformat the drive for Windows to use?05:48
intelikeySohmc checkdisk    do a google for it.05:48
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siriuskr_jason there is no c:/windows folder05:49
naliothdooglus: because running nautilus using sudo converts some userland files to root files05:49
geneo93Sohmc:  df05:49
bur[n] er_siriuskr: cp smb://windowsmachine/sharedcdrive/windows/system32/FILE.dll ~/.wine/driveC/windows/system32/FILE.dll  <--interpret it, it's not a literal command05:49
sampandooglus, it's true -- i started kate first time with sudo (instead of kdesu) and the perms were messed up and i couldn't start it as user until i fixed it.05:49
Jeffiit says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory05:49
mengoh, i needed mplayer for browser streaming also05:49
bur[n] er_siriuskr: ~/.wine/ has the c:\ folder05:49
mengtotem's plugin is rather bad05:49
underscore_Holy batballs.05:49
underscore_Lots of free space.05:49
intelikeySohmc it's fairly new.  still beta but works pretty well.   runs in linux or ms05:49
siriuskro05:49
tonyyarussoSweet.  My FPS are 80-120 now.05:49
siriuskrthanks05:49
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Jeffiit says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory05:50
_jasonubotu: tell meng about replacetotem05:50
Sohmcgeneo93, when I do a df on /dev/hdb, it only gives me /dev, not the specific hard drive05:50
underscore_You'd need to mkdir, Jeffi. If you're trying to cd to it.05:50
Blakmaller_19how much delay in arrive my order??05:50
underscore_If it doesn't exist, create the directory.05:50
underscore_:'/05:50
Jeffiwell the directory is there05:50
underscore_Hm.05:50
Jeffiwith files in it05:50
Sohmcintelikey, what is fairly new?  checkdisk?05:50
Jeffibut nothing05:50
mengi am happy using moz mplayer, it works at least05:50
mark__can someone with breezy paste their repository config file in pastebin for me :)05:50
underscore_Well05:50
intelikeySohmc iirc checkdisk is on freshmeet.05:50
underscore_Your desktop has a capital D right?05:50
intelikeySohmc checkdisk    do a google for it.05:50
underscore_Like..05:50
underscore_Desktop?05:51
ubuntucd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?05:51
_jasonubotu: tell mark about sources05:51
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naliothubotu: tell mark__ about sources05:51
tonyyarussoSo before that reboot, I had the system up for just over three days, and it seemed to be starting to lag with certain tasks.  (Console switching, the shutdown when I did it,...)  Any ideas why / a fix?05:51
underscore_If so, cd /home/server/Desktop/hello05:51
Jeffiyes05:51
geneo93[kane@localhost ~] $ df05:51
geneo93Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on05:51
geneo93/dev/sdb1             5.5G  3.2G  2.3G  59% /05:51
Jeffii tried that05:51
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underscore_Odd.05:51
mark__nalioth, thanks05:51
underscore_IT should be working.05:51
naliothgeneo93: please use a pastebin05:51
underscore_It*05:51
Jeffidoesnt work05:51
geneo93df should work just fine05:51
intelikeySohmc it can probably recover the blanked partition table05:51
Jeffiright05:51
bur[n] er_Jeffi: it's case specific... and use tab-completion05:51
Jeffibut it isnt05:51
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Jeffiand 2, it cant even find Desktop05:51
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bur[n] er_Jeffi: follow the path with tab-completion05:52
Sohmcintelikey, I just searched freshmeat for checkdisk and didn't find anything...05:52
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bur[n] er_Jeffi: cd05:52
Jefficd ~/Desktop doesnt work either05:52
underscore_Jeffi: cd ~/Desktop/hello05:52
_jasonubotu: tell Jeffi about cli05:52
underscore_oh.05:52
bur[n] er_Jeffi: then run "ls"05:52
underscore_hm05:52
Sohmcintelikey, could it be called something else?  (Google only turned up spelling error results)05:52
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DonLI'm currently trying to get a media player to work reliably for me. Haven't had much luck. MPlayer seems to work best but it crashes a lot and takes firefox with it. Must be something else05:52
underscore_I tried. Sorry, I couldn't help.05:52
bur[n] er_werd... listen to ubotu about cli Jeffi05:52
SohmcI appreciate you all helping me...:-)05:52
underscore_:x05:52
geneo93Sohmc:  testdisk can recover partition tables05:52
underscore_Now.05:52
intelikeysorry it's testdisk Sohmc05:53
intelikeymy bad05:53
underscore_I must find ways of securing my computer from l33t brute force kids.05:53
Jeffiok it worked05:53
underscore_:\05:53
bur[n] er_can gparted help with partition rescuing?05:53
geneo93no05:53
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underscore_rofl bur[n] er_.05:53
niblewizdoes anyone have experience with playing 386 media files on ubuntu05:53
dooglussampan, nalioth: would "sudo -H" be OK?  that sets HOME to be root's home, much like gksudo does05:54
niblewizsuch as .mpeg, .wmv, etc05:54
intelikeyyou want  * testdisk-6.3-WIP.linuxstatic.tar.bz2 *   Sohmc05:54
Sohmcunderscore_, kids these days are too lazy to code their own stuff...05:54
naliothdooglus: we just recommend gksudo or kdesu depending on platform.05:54
Sohmc;-)05:54
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tonyyarusso!tell niblewiz about restrictedformats05:54
underscore_Sohmc: Yeah. My website used to get like 5,000 failed attempts per week.05:54
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underscore_Kind of amusing.05:54
underscore_:|05:54
Blakmaller_19well05:55
intelikeyjust unpack it and run it. Sohmc05:55
bur[n] er_niblewiz: yes05:55
Blakmaller_19good bye!!05:55
Sohmcdownloading it now...05:55
underscore_However, there was one kid I made mad. He then proceeded to null my ip.05:55
underscore_:\05:55
niblewizbur[n] er...what did you  use05:55
Sohmcintelikey, I had to restart my ubuntu system05:55
Jeffiok this is wierd05:55
Blakmaller_19good night!! everybody05:55
intelikeyk05:55
null!java05:55
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs05:55
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null!javadebs05:55
mengi am using crazy frog to test the browser thing05:56
ubuntucd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?05:56
naliothubotu: tell null about msg the bot05:56
Jeffigot it!05:56
Jeffiwoot05:56
bur[n] er_niblewiz: totem-xine, xine, mplayer, vlc, xfmedia, and/or kaffeine05:56
menguse kaffiene xine, it's better05:56
ubuntuive tryed using other playes it seems that they dont have neough permissions to use the cd rom05:56
intelikeynow back to my question,  does anyone have an /sbin/start-stop-daemon that actually does anything other than an echo 'fake start-stop-daemon; not actually doing anything'  ?????05:56
niblewizbur[n] er_:hmmm ok i have i'll try those05:56
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DonLbur[n] er_, what's your favourite?05:57
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niblewizbur[n] er_: already tried mplayer but for some reason it didn't work05:57
intelikeyor is that all that start-stop-daemon is supposed to be ?05:57
Sohmcis ssh not installed by default on ubunto????05:57
niblewizbur[n] er_: will try right now05:57
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Jeffiblah05:57
bur[n] er_DonL: totem-xine (i'm a gnome guy... and it just works well... f for full screen, h to hide controls, up/down for volume, i love it)05:57
Jeffiwhat does segmentation fault mean?05:57
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DonLbur[n] er_, and plugins are okay?05:58
bur[n] er_niblewiz: u need w32codecs05:58
intelikeySohmc installed but sshd probably isn't runnint by default.05:58
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niblewizbur[n] er_:thanks...i'll try05:58
bur[n] er_DonL: plugins like what?05:58
ubuntuknow one help me? :(05:58
underscore_Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package05:58
KeithWeisshari'm having trouble installing extra packages from the ubuntu dvd05:58
underscore_:/05:58
Sohmcintelikey, *sigh* wow...I'm so used to fedora....05:58
DonLw32 codecs and apple05:58
bur[n] er_ubotu: tell niblewiz about w32codecs05:58
P3L|C4N0hi people05:58
KeithWeissharthe installation froze and then i got a red message installation of the package failed05:58
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_jasonunderscore_: you need unvirse05:58
Sohmcits not in /etc/init.d05:58
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Sohmchow do I start sshd?05:58
_jasonunderscore_: you need universe05:59
speedybitsHi everyone05:59
bur[n] er_!tell underscore_ about universe05:59
ubuntuhow cna i kill the cd resource and restart it?05:59
underscore_bah05:59
niblewizbrb05:59
KeithWeissharwhen I try to retry installation it doesn't respond05:59
naliothSohmc: install it, it will start by itself05:59
bur[n] er_cd resource?05:59
intelikeyyou may have to apt-get it first... it looks like only the client is default install05:59
underscore_I'm beginning to wish I would've stuck with commandline.05:59
underscore_lol05:59
intelikeyyou may have to apt-get it first... it looks like only the client is default install Sohmc05:59
tonyyarussoAnyone using a Thinkpad: What kind of battery life do you get?05:59
bur[n] er_underscore_: bah, you'll never go back ;)05:59
siriuskr## Anyone know any info about KDE 4 ?05:59
KeithWeisshari burned a dvd with nero using data verification and it verified ok05:59
bluefoxicydebconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome05:59
bluefoxicydebconf: (Can't locate object method "signal_connect" via package "Gtk2::Window" at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 73, <> line 35.)05:59
bluefoxicydebconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog05:59
naliothSohmc: install the "ssh" package05:59
XenguySohmc: $EDITOR /etc/ssh/sshd_config first; then start ssh with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start06:00
DonLbur[n] er_, I've just about had it with mplayer. It dies and takes firefox with it. Go back, try to do it again and it dies again06:00
bluefoxicywow.06:00
underscore_bur[n] er_: Not as long as you're here to hold my hand.06:00
bluefoxicyblue screens in synaptic06:00
underscore_:D06:00
bur[n] er_siriuskr: it's the next version of KDE :)  great for #kubuntu-offtopic ;)06:00
KeithWeissharbut when I try to install it it failed while installing a package06:00
KeithWeissharthe iso was downloaded with bittorrent06:00
magicjjhey you all i have a problem06:00
magicjjmy ubuntu wont load my x-server graphical interface06:00
dooglusnalioth: I just ran "sudo nautilus" and it didn't make any files as root at all.  is there something specific you have to do to get it to make files as root?06:00
bur[n] er_DonL: firefox plugin for video is only really taken care of by mozilla-mplayer at the moment, the totem firefox plugin isn't good yet06:00
Sohmcnalioth, question two: how do I install the ssh package?  I assume there is something equavilant to yum in ubunto that there is for fedora06:00
intelikey!info start-stop-daemon06:01
KeithWeisshari'm using arita dvd+r 8x06:01
naliothdooglus: wait until you restart your box.06:01
magicjjand i haven't used any linux platform at all so i dont know where to start in command line06:01
SohmcI'm sorry if I'm asking such newbie questions....06:01
bur[n] er_magicjj: did it ever work? any background?06:01
naliothubotu: tell Sohmc about apt-get06:01
underscore_I got an error.06:01
bur[n] er_Sohmc: sudo apt-get install openssh-server06:01
speedybitsI have a strange problem in Breezy...the CPU is railed at 100% with no apps running.06:01
underscore_Says there's a noninteractive synaptic running.06:01
naliothSohmc: this is the channel for your questions, check your priv msgs06:01
underscore_I'll figure this out.06:01
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nullspeedybits, top, then P06:01
underscore_roar.06:01
bur[n] er_Sohmc: bah, better yet, check the private message06:01
DonLbur[n] er_, have you had experience with opera? I've got it now and am playing with it, but so far it won't do multimedia for me06:01
KeithWeissharduring the first install it failed on the openoffice package, when I rebooted and restarted the install it failed on the parted package06:01
nullsee which process is eating up the cpu06:02
bur[n] er_DonL: i couldn't get it to do flash even ;)06:02
dooglusnalioth: what do you mean?  do you think restarting will make some files owned by root in my home directory?06:02
DonLOh. I've got flash and Java happening06:02
bur[n] er_DonL: not to say it isn't possible, i just never took teh time06:02
KeithWeissharwhat causes random error while installing ubuntu from dvd?06:02
dooglusnalioth: currently "find ~ -user root" finds nothing06:02
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bur[n] er_KeithWeisshar: underpants gnomes06:02
underscore_Got it.06:02
underscore_wewt.06:02
naliothdooglus: it is a known bug in gnome. it has been a bug for over 2 years. if you've just sudo nautilus'd, you will be bitten by the bug06:03
underscore_<306:03
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dooglusnalioth: what's the bug number?06:03
speedybitsRunning 'top' shows only a few apps below 15%....but system monitor says CPU is at 100%06:03
intelikeySohmc dpkg is the package handler in debian based systems.  there are several frontends for it, apt<tab>  aptitude  and  synaptic (the GUI frontend)  and they are well documneted in the man pages.06:03
Xenguymagicjj: have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg06:03
Xenguy?06:03
DonLI really do like Firefox, but it's pretty upsetting when it constantly crashes. There must be something wrong somewhere06:03
mengthanks n signing out06:03
bur[n] er_speedybits: try htop ;)06:03
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mojo34where do I find a log of my bootup?06:03
bur[n] er_DonL: i can't have a direct comparison, i've been using dapper :\ sorry06:03
bur[n] er_mojo34: dmesg06:03
Sohmcintelikey, thanks...I'm attempting to shrug off my fedora stuff...I'm sure I'll have to relearn most of the maintainence/admin stuff06:04
naliothdooglus: join me in an -offtopic channel please06:04
speedybitsIbur[n] er_: is 'htop' in the repo's?06:04
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DonLbur[n] er_ ahh the new ubuntu06:04
bur[n] er_speedybits: of course06:04
Sohmcremember the days when you compiled *EVERYTHING* from source?06:04
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dooglusnalioth: any in particular?06:04
DShepherdbur[n] er_, what is it like.. performance wise?06:04
bur[n] er_DShepherd: getting better everyday06:04
DShepherdbur[n] er_, that's if you remember wat breezy was like :)06:05
bur[n] er_DShepherd: it's been pretty gradually faster and faster, so I can't really say it's been dramatic from Breezy06:05
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bur[n] er_DShepherd: that's the thing ;)  I don't06:05
DonLSohmc, you may like apt-get after using rpm for a while06:05
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DShepherdbur[n] er_, :) figured you wouldnt.. using it for awhile havent you06:05
DShepherd?06:05
bur[n] er_DShepherd: a lot of little things, nothing too drastic06:05
bur[n] er_DShepherd: bout a month or two06:05
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intelikeySohmc i just spent several hours repairing apt on this system.   not an indication of a problematic app but the results of a botched install.06:05
DShepherdbur[n] er_, yeah.. i didnt expect anything drastic... breezy was pretty good06:06
SohmcDonL, I like it already...the console version is MUCH better than yum06:06
bur[n] er_DShepherd: have you seen the new logout screen?06:06
iantec_jason are you there?06:06
DShepherdbur[n] er_, naw.. care to share?06:06
bur[n] er_DShepherd: sure, one sec06:06
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Sohmcokay...sshd is failing to start06:06
mojo34I need a command that shows me the things that failed in the bootup :(06:06
DonLSohmc, do you use synaptic at all?06:07
naliothdooglus: i'm in both #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic06:07
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DShepherdbur[n] er_, is gnome considerably faster? i have heard person's comparing it to xfce now...its performance that is06:07
SohmcI used apt-get06:07
ianteci want to know how to restore my root privileges since its locked for some reason.06:07
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s_spiffall right...me now on Dapper Drake Live CD06:07
mojo34dmesg does not show me the the modules that did not load like usbcore.06:07
intelikeySohmc i sujest you learn  'apt-cache search/show'  and  'apt-get install/remove'  as basic system calls.   the man pages on them are not bad.06:07
magicjj sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? havent tried it let me write that down and i'll try it now06:07
DonLSohmc, you're a command line kind of person?06:07
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keirI'm installing dapper drake on a spare partition of my laptop to figure out how supported it is; is rad laptop support still a mission for dapper?06:08
SohmcDonL, yes, I am!06:08
s_spiffhey! synaptic is still here! i thought they were going to do away with it!06:08
alvarohello!!06:08
DonLSohmc, lol06:08
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alvarohelp me... I need posgress06:08
Sohmcintelikey, will do06:08
bur[n] er_DShepherd: http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot.jpg06:08
intelikeyDonL  cli kind of guy = old linux hand06:08
underscore_Hm06:08
RedRosewhat are the defacto servers for POP3 and SMTP?06:08
DonLs_spiff, yes, I really like Synaptic06:08
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok06:08
underscore_I still can't get the mp3 to play.06:08
underscore_I downloaded.06:08
DShepherdbur[n] er_, is gnome considerably faster? i have heard person's comparing it to xfce now...its performance that is06:08
underscore_Oh well.06:08
SohmcDonL, even with a GUI, I still have terminals openned06:08
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underscore_I'll figure it out later.06:08
bur[n] er_DShepherd: it's close... i have 512 ram though06:09
s_spiffyeah I like it too, but some one told me they were going to remove it06:09
Sohmcintelikey, well, I'll fix sshd06:09
DonLSohmc, good for you. Much faster06:09
kestasworkasking a linux user if he's a 'command line sort of person' is like asking a windows user whether they're a gui sort of person06:09
Sohmcintelikey, ...later06:09
underscore_kestaswork: lol.06:09
SohmcAHHH!!!!06:09
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DonLI'm a bit of a "point and shoot" kind of guy though, even though I use the command line fairly often06:09
SohmcNow I don't have gtar!06:09
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DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok kool... but i bet you couldnt really tell me.. you are already dappered06:09
s_spiffkestasawork not necessary. I'm a noob, but still a linux user..but almost...slmost.. a gui guer06:10
RedRosewhat are the defacto servers for POP3 and SMTP?06:10
DonLkestaswork, haha06:10
bur[n] er_DShepherd: i use xfce too though06:10
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s_spiffbrb06:10
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ah.. and? its pretty close?06:10
intelikeySohmc would you care to 'less /sbin/start-stop-daemon '  and tell me if it is a simple two line script that only echos a not doing anything message ?06:10
bur[n] er_DShepherd: they're not close to mem usage yet... and it's still noticeably faster in xfce06:10
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok kool06:11
Sohmcintelikey, lol...not a problem...give me a sec06:11
DonLbur[n] er_, I installed Xfce a while back and go into it from time to time. Very nice, very quick06:11
DShepherdbur[n] er_, that sounds fair enough..06:11
bur[n] er_DonL: xubuntu-desktop ?06:11
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Sohmcintelikey, I can't less it...it's a binary file06:11
DShepherdbur[n] er_, i have xubuntu-desktop too.. but i dont use it much06:11
intelikeyok  thank you06:11
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DonLbur[n] er_, thinking back,, yes I think that's how I got it06:12
intelikeynow if i can find out why all i got was a script of do nothingness i'll fix it.....06:12
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bur[n] er_once thunar matures, I'll be switching anyway06:12
KeithWeissharwhy does the installation sometimes fail when installing from dvd+r06:12
DShepherdbur[n] er_, this screenshot is taking a while to load.. how small is this?06:12
underscore_I need to theme this.06:12
underscore_Plain = ugly.06:12
bur[n] er_DShepherd: it's my home connection, i'll upload it to my blog ;)06:12
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ah! i see06:12
DonLI try not to stray too far from the accepted norms, officially appreciated programs06:12
KeithWeissharwhy do I get errors when installing ubuntu from dvd+r even though it burned ok with nero06:13
Sohmcintelikey, I can send you my file if you'd like06:13
DShepherdbur[n] er_, do what you must.. :)06:13
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DShepherdbur[n] er_, tango icons.. nice :)06:13
tonyyarussoI'm having trouble with suspend; could someone help me diagnose it?06:13
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DShepherdbur[n] er_, i like use the same ones too06:13
bur[n] er_DShepherd: i'm a huge fan ;) they keep growing too06:13
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bur[n] er_DShepherd: another plus that it's in apt ;)06:14
DonLgot to go get some sleep. Night folks06:14
intelikeySohmc better not... there are probably libs that go with it...06:14
DShepherdbur[n] er_, so what is firefox 1.5 like? I am using it now.. its has some issues when reordering tabs. what is it like on dapper?06:14
midwinterI think that logout panel could do with some more empty space on it ;)06:14
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intelikeyif i don't have the binnary i probably don't have the libs either.06:14
DShepherdbur[n] er_, tango icons are in apt!!?? are you serious!!06:15
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Sohmcyou could do a ldd to find out with libs and install them06:15
RedRosesorry to ask again, but i missed it, what are the standard POP3 and SMTP servers?06:15
DShepherdbur[n] er_, you are soo.. right!06:15
DShepherdbur[n] er_, apt is great!!06:15
SohmcRedRose, depends on your ISP06:15
SohmcRedRose, or do you mean on your linux box?06:15
RedRoselinux box06:15
RedRoselol...06:15
intelikeyoh and i'm lagging about 20 seconds now...  be back after the dl.06:16
RedRosewhat's the usual or common POP3 or SMTP server running?06:16
DShepherdbur[n] er_, so firefox.. what is it like?06:16
tonyyarusso/var/log/acpid has "finger: /dev//pts/0: No such file or directory"06:16
SohmcRedRose, POP3, I have dovecot running and SMTP is typcially sendmail06:16
speedyRedRose, exim06:16
tonyyarussoA lot.06:16
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overflow-1hi, i am new to ubuntu (i come from a gentoo background). i wanted to know, how i can apt-get install thunderbird 1.5 RC206:17
pmallapphi all06:17
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naliothoverflow-1: not yet.06:17
pmallappanybody used HelpExplorer a Professional .hlp and .chm viewer for Linux06:17
speedybitsStrange...htop and top both show no unusual activity, but gnome-system-monitor shows 100% CPU and my machine is slow.06:17
George_HarrisonI'm having troubles getting sound to work in flash. I have Firefox 1.5 with ubuntu breezy. I have followed two guides on ubuntu forums but it still does not work06:18
overflow-1nalioth, can't i put some bleeding egde repository to my sources.list, and then apt-get it?06:18
tonyyarussooverflow-1, You can still get it from Mozilla's site.06:18
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naliothoverflow-1: if you are from gentoo, you can compile it (it is not yet in any repos that i know of, cutting edge or not)06:19
siriuskris there a program that will let me VNC into my windows Machine and Hear the sound thats playing from it ????06:19
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Sohmcfor some wierd reason, when I try to run synaptic from gnome, it won't accept my password06:19
George_Harrisonso.. how about that flash..06:19
overflow-1tonyyarusso, nalioth : fair enough. tnx.06:19
Sohmcare there two different passwords for the GUI and the console??06:19
overflow-1nalioth, can i apt-get firefox 1.5?06:19
naliothubotu: tell overflow-1 about firefox1506:19
overflow-1nalioth, tnx for your time.06:20
naliothoverflow-1: any time06:20
tonyyarussoSohmc, No, it'll have something to do with your sudo setup.06:20
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George_Harrisonso why is the sound in flash corrupt in ubuntu06:20
Sohmc*sigh...*06:21
bur[n] er_DShepherd: i give up, i dont' know how ot work my blog software to upload a picture ;)06:21
Sohmcdo I need to be in wheel group?06:21
DShepherdbur[n] er_, that's kool06:21
tonyyarussoGeorge_Harrison, I'm not sure.  I had that issue once, but I think I ended up reinstalling flash (or maybe it was part of getting ff1.5), and it worked later.06:21
siriuskris there a program that will let me VNC into my windows Machine and Hear the sound thats playing from it ????06:21
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naliothSohmc: if you arent put into a group, you probably dont need to be in it06:22
George_Harrisonhmm.. ok I'll try it I guess. I've followed many guides on the ubuntu forums but they do not work. aoss doesn't work for me in flash06:22
bur[n] er_DShepherd: http://buranen.info/screenshot.jpg :)06:22
DShepherdbur[n] er_, the first link is loading fine.. i refreshed it and it seems good06:22
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George_Harrisonand I haven't really installed flash (through the run script from the macromedia site) I just installed Firefox 1.5 through Automatix and flash was defaulted06:23
Sohmcnalioth, okay...so how do I get synaptic to authenticate correctly?  I assume it has something to do with /etc/sudoers06:23
DShepherdbur[n] er_, pretty :)06:23
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FunkyELFwhat is the latest release that is an offical supported release?06:23
DShepherdbur[n] er_, is there a way to take screenshots of the menu when they are opened?06:24
bur[n] er_DShepherd: other than that, new rhythmbox is crash happy ;)  just transitioned to gstreamer0.1006:24
_jasonSohmc: does sudo work on other commands? like 'sudo echo hi'?06:24
naliothSohmc: click alt-f2 on your keyboard then "gksudo synaptic" <enter>06:24
bur[n] er_FunkyELF: Breezy Badger 05.1006:24
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok.. I would expect crashing at this stage06:24
bur[n] er_DShepherd: import command?06:24
bur[n] er_DShepherd: see my screenshot ;)06:24
FunkyELFbur[n] er_, same for Kubuntu?06:24
bur[n] er_FunkyELF: si senor06:24
tonyyarussoWhat will tell me what's going wrong in suspend and hibernate?06:24
DShepherdbur[n] er_, bam! kool06:25
DShepherdbur[n] er_, let me try06:25
Sohmchold on...checking06:25
FunkyELFbur[n] er_, and will there be an easy way to upgrade to 6 from an official release?06:25
bur[n] er_FunkyELF: yes, apt06:25
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Sohmc_jason, nope...I can't sudo echo hi06:26
DShepherdbur[n] er_, i can seem to take a screenshot with menus opened06:26
_jasonSohmc: paste the output of 'groups'06:26
DShepherdbur[n] er_, i meant i CANT06:26
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bur[n] er_DShepherd: sleep 5 && import -window root screenshot.jpg06:26
pmallapphow come no wine for amd6406:26
bur[n] er_run that, then open the menu quickly ;)06:26
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok trying that now06:27
bur[n] er_DShepherd: within 5 seconds of course ;)06:27
dooglusor sleep 10 - and then you can open it slowly06:27
ejofeedoes ubuntu have any application which can be used as a chronometer.06:27
ejofees/\./\?/06:27
tonyyarussoWhat is /dev//pts/0 ?06:27
dooglusejofee: you don't need that 2nd \06:27
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Sohmc_jason, sohmc adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner06:28
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anathema_hey guys, i got a archos gmini400...cant get it working in linux..works fine in windows..06:28
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_jasonSohmc: is this the account you created during install?06:28
anathema_its basically a mass storage06:28
anathema_but linux gives me the error in dmesg: device not accepting address 15, error -7106:28
ejofeedooglus: are you sure? isn't "?" hunger-related (therefore reserved syntax)?06:28
anathema_anyone know what that means what i can do?06:28
dooglusejofee: hunger-related?  what do you mean?06:29
DShepherdbur[n] er_, seems to work. so how is firefox 1.5?06:29
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Sohmc_jason, yup06:29
ejofeedooglus: ".*" is considered "hungry", that is, it matches as *much* as it can.06:29
anathema_anyone ?06:29
bur[n] er_DShepherd: it's not... it's 1.4 rc still...06:29
dooglusejofee: not on the right hand side it doesn't06:29
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_jasonSohmc: did you happen to enable root?06:29
naliothubotu: tell anathema_ about anyone06:29
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bur[n] er_DShepherd: tab-reordering is fine though06:29
mzinzQuestion: I was trying to install Firefox1.5 and messed up some how.  I couldn't figure out how to revert back to 1.07 so I downloaded Opera and copied it to my Ubuntu box.  How do I install the .deb file?06:29
DShepherdbur[n] er_, kool06:30
Sohmc_jason, enable root?  I can su to root, if that's what you mean06:30
bur[n] er_mzinz: sudo dpkg -i file.deb06:30
dooglusejofee: in s/a/b/ 'a' is the regexp, 'b' is a string06:30
mzinzThank yoU!06:30
ejofeedooglus: i know, but i was assuming the reserved syntax is globally, blindly, dealt with.06:30
bur[n] er_DShepherd: not really :\  but whatever..06:30
Sohmc_jason, sudo does not work though06:30
_jasonSohmc: yes do that and do 'adduser your_username admin'06:30
dooglusejofee: no, only when parsing regexps06:30
ejofeedooglus: however, i understand that i was wrong06:30
dooglusejofee: not wrong, it would still work - but you wasted a character :)06:31
intelikeyanathema_ i know very little about such  but hdd's generally use int15  and the irq on that dev seems to not accept int15  is there a jumper on the device you could change ?06:31
ejofeedooglus :)06:31
Sohmc_jason, it says that the group admin does not exist06:31
anathema_nope:)06:31
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bur[n] er_DShepherd: it's still thunderbird 1.07 as well for the record06:31
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Sohmc_jason, I assume I'll have to add it manually06:31
_jasonSohmc: addgroup admin && adduser your_user admin06:32
mzinzbur[n] er_, I got a few notices saying things weren't installed, then it said 'error processing opera (--install_), then cancelled installation06:32
intelikeythen a soft fix in the kernel is the only option anathema_  or as your nick says, 'SoL'06:32
Sohmc_jason, okay...done06:32
_jasonSohmc: test sudo with your user, if it fails pastebin /etc/sudoers06:32
Sohmc_jason, I'm logging out and loging back in06:33
_jasonSohmc: ok06:33
DShepherdbur[n] er_, ok... think thunderbird 1.5 will make it?06:33
anathema_nalioth: every time i plug it in i get a diff erro06:33
anathema_r06:33
bur[n] er_mzinz: shitty... apt-get -f install fix it?06:33
windowmakerdoes anybody here play ragnarok online on linux?06:33
anathema_"can't read configurations, error -75"06:33
dooglus_jason: I've heard reports that some people have "adm" as the admin group rather than "admin" in their sudoers.  I don't know if that's something left over from hoary, or where it comes from06:33
anathema_thats the next one06:33
bur[n] er_DShepherd: i'm assuming so, there's plenty of time until april ;)06:33
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mzinzhang on06:33
_jasondooglus: oh, I did not know that06:33
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Sohmc_jason, didn't work....06:34
DShepherdbur[n] er_, yeah i hope so... anything else worth mentioning?06:34
dooglus_jason: I don't know it for a fact, but I've seen a couple of people here with "adm" as their admin group06:34
bur[n] er_DShepherd: if not, I'll have a .deb handy ;006:34
intelikeythat's not a different error anathema_  still  error -7506:34
_jasonSohmc: pastebin /etc/sudoers06:34
_jasondooglus: even in /etc/sudoers?06:34
DShepherdbur[n] er_, :)06:34
dooglus_jason: yes06:34
bur[n] er_DShepherd: i wish there was...  mostly just polishing and cleanup stuff.  gdm and screensaver have gotten some love06:34
_jasondooglus: interesting06:34
Sohmc_jason, how should I paste this?06:35
_jason!pastebin06:35
ubotuit has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:35
ejofeedooglus: cool! then this means "\" must be used only for <list>\'/</list> (and \1, \2, etc., of course)?06:35
DShepherdbur[n] er_, kool.. aight then thanks.. I plan to upgrade in feb or so.. should be fun!06:36
intelikeyhehhe my sudoers is short and sweet, one line;  root ALL=(ALL) ALL06:36
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mzinzbur[n] er_, it still didn't work.  When i try to do the apt-get install or update it just doesn't work.... Any ideas06:36
DShepherdbur[n] er_, I am just hoping gaim 2 will be out and ready when dapper is done.. maybe firefox 2 too06:36
dooglusejofee: I guess first we need to agree what language we're talking about06:36
Sohmc_jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/730706:37
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dooglusejofee: I guess you're talking Perl, right?06:37
ejofeedooglus: yes06:37
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_jasonSohmc: 'visudo' as root and make yours look like mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021 (last two lines)06:37
ejofeedooglus: (how did you guess that?!)06:37
siriuskri have have a program complaining that i dont have audiofile but i have it06:37
windowmakerdoes anybody here play ragnarok online on linux? how do you get it working?06:38
dooglusejofee: 'cos sed doesn't have greedy matching I don't think, and Ruby's a little obscure06:38
gleesondcan anyone point me in the direction for finding out how to get photoshop running corectly with wine?06:38
ejofeedooglus: oh, i see06:38
Sohmc_jason, hmmm...I think the old-school group of sudoers was "wheel"...I guess admin makes more sence06:38
windowmakergleesond: what version?06:38
dooglusejofee: sed *only* has greedy matching, I mean06:38
Sohmc*sense06:38
gleesondphotoshop 606:38
ejofeedooglus: then how does sed deal with greediness?06:38
_jasonSohmc: I think so too06:38
windowmakergleesond, i haven't tried 6 in wine, sorry =(06:38
dooglusejofee: * is always greedy.06:38
mzinzbur[n] er_, it says my problem is that: "opera depends on libqt3-mt (>=3.3.4) | libqt3c102-mt (>=3.3.4)"06:38
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windowmakergleesond, i know it works with crossoveroffice though06:38
gleesondis that available in the repository06:39
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Sohmc_jason, okay...changes made06:39
_jasonSohmc: should work now06:39
windowmakergleesond, nope, it's non-free, may i PM you?06:39
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gleesondshure06:39
Sohmc_jason, logging back in06:39
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gleesondsp?06:40
gleesondsure06:40
gleesonder06:40
ejofeedooglus: then how does sed deal with those situations when non-greedy matching would be necessary?06:40
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jcuseEvening all06:40
jcuseAnyone Awake?06:40
intelikeygleesond i'm with you. sure should have an h in it.06:40
Sohmc_jason, didn't work...do I need to restart sudo or something because I saw an entry for it in /etc/init.d06:41
jcuseCan someone help me?06:41
gleesondheh06:41
dooglusejofee: first off, I'm wrong.  "man sed" refers me to Perl's "perlre" regexp manual - so sed uses Perl re's...  I was thinking of the HP-UX sed I guess.06:41
dooglusejofee: I tried a non-greedy match in sed and it worked.06:41
_jasonSohmc: might be, I usually just tell people to reboot.  But if you know how to restart it, let me know06:41
speedyjcuse, dont ask for help, just shoot your question06:41
jcuseThanks06:41
kestasworkBSD sed is also different06:42
dooglusejofee: echo aa | sed 's/a?*/b/' ==> ba06:42
kestasworkvery annoying06:42
jcuseIm cant increase my screen resolution and I read a topic on the forums and I dont understand it...06:42
ejofeedooglus: thank you06:42
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_jasonubotu: tell jcuse about fixres06:42
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Sohmc_jason, rebooting the stupid thing06:42
jcusethanks06:42
_jasonSohmc: alright06:42
Sohmcsomeone please tell me that this is worth it....;-)06:42
dooglusejofee: so what was the question?  you were wondering whether ubuntu had a clock?06:43
windowmakerhow do i make private conversations again?06:43
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intelikeywhy you want us to lie to you Sohmc06:43
_jasonSohmc: uh oh there goes your uptime06:43
doogluswindowmaker: /query nick06:43
ejofeedooglus: shouldn't it be "a*?"?06:43
ejofeedooglus: yes06:43
windowmakerdooglus,  thanks06:43
timfrost_jason, Sohmc, there is nothing to restart.  Sohmc, if id -a doesn't list admin for you, then you may need to add yourself to group admin and then log back in06:43
Sohmc_jason, lol06:43
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adriyelGuys, might be some big news behind this, CHECK THIS OUT http://www.lobby4linux.com/WordPress/ this might mean a revolution for Desktop Linux, check it out!06:43
ejofeedooglus: in fact, a way to chronometer... certain activities in my household :)06:43
Sohmctimfrost, I logged out and logged back in06:43
Sohmcchecked groups and I was in admin06:43
dooglusejofee: of course it should...  and that works too :)06:43
Sohmctimfrost, just wasn't sudoing06:44
ejofeedooglus :))06:44
jcuseHow do I run commands?06:44
timfrostSohmc, what is the status now?06:44
adriyelhttp://www.lobby4linux.com/WordPress/ we have a big project announcement in 72 hours that might be the needle that broke Microsoft's back, check this out!06:44
Sohmctimfrost, computer is booting up06:44
_jasonjcuse: accessories -> terminal under applications menu06:44
jcusethanks again06:45
SohmcI may have to call this a night shortly06:45
dooglusejofee: I looked it up.  it means "an accurate clock (especially used in navigation)".  if you use ntp, ubuntu's clock is accurate.  what more do you want from it?06:45
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Sohmc_jason, didn't work06:45
mzinzQUESTION: While trying to install Firefox 1.5, something went wrong.  How do I revert back to 1.07??06:46
_jasonSohmc: hrmm.. this always works...06:46
_jasonSohmc: you are testing sudo, not gksudo?06:46
Sohmc_jason, well, that would just be the underscore of my day today06:46
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Sohmc_jason, yes06:46
Sohmc*yawn*06:46
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_jasonSohmc: double check sudoers06:47
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Sohmc_jason, I copied and pasted your line06:47
intelikey:)06:48
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ejofeedooglus: a chronometer... that is, an application which stops counting time when i press space or enter (or etc.) and then starts counting again (from where it was the last time) and thus can give me the total time.06:48
_jasonSohmc: well one thing I can think of is admin should be a system group which we didn't do06:48
iantec_jason im the same guy last night...what is the command i need to type to regain my privileges int his account?06:48
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ejofeedooglus: maybe a more common word for that would be "timer"?06:49
Sohmc_jason, it shouldn't matter what the GID number is06:49
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ejofeedooglus: i am not that good at... vulgar english :)06:49
Sohmcwell, this is another problem I can fix later...for now, I'll do this the old-fashion way...su to root, and then run it from the command line06:49
intelikeyiantec chown [you] :[you]  $HOME -R   ?06:49
_jasonSohmc: yeah I didn't think so either, but I've done this with a few people and it's been pretty straight forward06:49
mrmochaanyone here using the old crappy alcatel DSL USB modem?06:49
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iantecwill i typoe that exactly im sorry im a noob06:50
_jasoniantec: where are you now, is your user a member of the 'admin' group?  (check with the 'groups' command)06:50
Sohmc_jason, I don't doubt it is...I need to get gtar, so that I can install this hard-drive restorrer...and all will be well06:50
jcuseI think I did something wrong cause I went through a bunch of entering and my resolution is stil lthe same06:50
windowmakerdoes anybody here use cedega?06:50
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ianteciantec adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner06:50
jcusecould you link me again jason about the screen res06:50
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intelikeyiantec they [you]   should reflect your login name.  iantec  or what ever.06:50
Sohmcis there a reason why gtar, sshd are not installed by default?06:50
ice_nineI'm trying to install my wifi windows drivers using ndiswrapper. Got through the wiki tutorial successfully but when I got to point of actually installing it I got: "couldn't copy /home/tom/windows_drivers/bcmwl5a.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135"06:50
_jasonSohmc: that really seems a bit drastic.  Try changing the sudoers line to your username instead of %admin, at least you might get sudo priv's06:51
ice_nineDoes it with both inf files06:51
dooglusejofee: there's a package in universe called "stopwatch".06:51
swordhey whats a good usenet client for ubuntu06:51
jcuseStill having trouble increasing screen resolutio9n06:51
mrmochaso nobody uses the USB modem06:51
intelikeyiantec you will probably need to sudo that command for it to work.06:51
mrmochaI've had little success in setting it up... then again, I'm so n00b it hurtz06:52
iantecdo i need to include the $HOME -R06:52
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ejofeedooglus: thanks a lot!06:52
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intelikeyyes06:52
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Sohmc_jason, well, it's how I've always done things with fedora and didn't cause too much problems...like I said...I need to get the data off the hard drive.  I can worry about sudo after I do that06:52
_jasonSohmc: true06:52
windowmakerdoes anybody here use cedega?06:53
mzinz_165I messed up my Firefox while trying to install 1.5 "failed to execute child process".  How do I revert to 1.07?06:53
ianteciantec@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown iantec:iantec $HOME -R06:53
iantecPassword:06:53
ianteciantec@ubuntu:~$06:53
iantec ......how will i know if it worked?06:53
Sohmchmmm...there's no gtar in synaptic....06:53
ejofeedooglus: i have each and every (breezy) official and semi-official (source-o-matic) repo sources and i don't have stopwatch. any idea what i am missing?06:53
magicjjhey you all, i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reconfigured everything, then it got to where i tell it 24 bit color, and it said "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly - customised configuration file; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200601180110"06:54
timfrostSohmc, /bin/tar in ubuntu *is* gnu tar (=gtar)06:54
magicjjdoes this mean it saved it?06:54
magicjjif so, that didnt work06:54
magicjji'm getting the same error06:54
ianteci tried using synaptic intelikey still error conversation with su06:55
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magicjjalso every time i start up ubuntu i have to disable my USB controller because it conflicts with it and wont let me start up, any ideas on why that'd be?06:55
OrbordeHow can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?06:55
Sohmctimfrost, I think I'm going to cry....06:55
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SohmcOKAY!!!  Now I've got testdrive untarred06:56
billytwowillyHi, I'm trying to get phpsane to work with my scanner. scanimage works fine, but when I try and activate it from within phpsane (web frontend for sane) the scanner doesn't start up.06:56
billytwowillywhat user would phpsane be running as?06:57
billytwowillyin apache?06:57
dooglusejofee: it looks like stopwatch is new for dapper. :(06:57
intelikeyiantec then it looks like you were not asking about "premissions" after all,  but root privlages     you must be part of  'adm' or 'admin' group  and then it "should" work....  i make no promices tho.06:57
iantec_jason is this right as root: adduser myusername admin?06:57
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_jasoniantec: yes06:57
painkilerhey guys whats the apt-get command for firefox 1.5?06:57
tonyyarussoGrr...All of my acpi scripts, for suspend and hibernate, don't work.  I can't find the pattern either.  On a previous install (same machine) everything worked, then hibernate and not suspend, now nothing.06:57
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painkileri type apt-get install firefox06:58
billytwowillypainkiler, apt-get install firefox read the man page dude;)06:58
tonyyarussopainkiler: There is none for 1.5.06:58
painkilerbut it says im up to date06:58
ejofeedooglus: you mean dapper is the first to include it?06:58
magicjji gotta go you all thanks for all your help tonight i'll be back on tomorrow and see if we can get things straight06:58
magicjjlater06:58
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tonyyarusso!firefox1.506:58
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:58
iantechmmmm it said command not found06:58
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intelikeyiantec you can 'cat /etc/sudoers '  as root and see if it is  adm or admin  that you need.06:58
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christoph_gaskkp06:58
ejofeedooglus: and... is dapper already useable?06:58
bur[n] er_ejofee: buggy, but usable06:59
dooglusejofee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=stopwatch&searchon=names&version=all06:59
OrbordeHow can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?06:59
ejofeedooglus: thanks again06:59
iantecwait im sorry but what is it that i have to do?06:59
bur[n] er_ejofee: not to be an official release till april and only recommended for developers and bug-hunters and/or idiots06:59
tonyyarussoOrborde: I think that's part of hdparm.  (Confirm?)06:59
ianteci typoed that ad it said permission denied06:59
_jasoniantec: that means you are not root06:59
swordany of you use klibido06:59
dooglusejofee: I use it.  I must have reported more than 10 bugs just yesterday, but it has been well usable for me.  Of course, it could blow up at the next update, but that's part of the fun.07:00
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ejofeebur[n] er_: "and/or idiots" :))))))))07:00
iantecarg, i really dont get it now this account is useless it can only perform basic tasks.... why cant i use my pass anymore even in getting updates or chaning settings?07:00
_jasoniantec: that is what we are fixing.  Do you have another account with sudo privileges?  if not, you will need to reboot in recovery mode07:01
ejofeebur[n] er_: i guess this would be more accurate (according to what i suppose ubuntu's policies are): only recommended for (developers and bug-hunters) xor idiots (parantheses supplied just for hyperclarity)07:02
tonyyarussoSo I tried doing this with irssi (first time), and I'm curious, how do you get at different "tabs", for pm and server stuff?07:02
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_jasontonyyarusso: alt + #07:02
ianteci do07:03
_jasoniantec: log into the one with sudo privileges then07:03
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cafuegotonyyarusso: ctrl-n and ctrl-p for prev and next windows.07:03
tonyyarusso_jason, cafuego: Thanks.  (Figured I should know in case I break something with X and need help.)07:03
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_jasontonyyarusso: ha that's actually good thinking07:04
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dooglusejofee: I'm not sure it's an xor - I'm an idiot developer/bug-hunter07:04
swordany of you use klibido07:04
ejofeedooglus :))07:04
ejofeecafuego: how does xchat suck?07:04
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iantecok i go log in in my main account thisis what i use to experiment on stuff so the other one wont break07:05
_jasoniantec: and does sudo work here? try 'sudo echo hi'07:05
cafuegoejofee: it's ugly and requires X.07:05
mrmochan00b here... need all the help I can get07:05
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speedyquit07:06
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ejofeecafuego: well, most apps require x11 these days...07:06
tonyyarussocafuego: Doesn't gnome-terminal use X too?07:06
mrmochaanyone know how to change the desktop image?07:06
pat_salut a tous07:06
dooglusejofee: there's a package called "gtimer" which might be good enough for you.  you can specify multiple 'tasks' you want to time.  it doesn't have the nice 1000th of a second display that stopwatch has, but it works OK07:06
ejofeecafuego: then again, why don't you try kvirc or konversation (this is a reply for yours "it's ugly")07:07
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tonyyarussomrmocha: You mean the background?07:07
mustard5mrmocha, gnome?07:07
regeya!tell pat_ about french07:07
_ian_ok im using the user that is still ok07:07
ejofeedooglus: thank you very much07:07
cafuegoejofee: Coz when it comes to X, I find KDe *the* ugliest desktop environemnt <heh>07:07
mrmochatonyyarusso, yes background07:07
mrmochamustard5, yes gnome07:07
pat_sorry07:07
ejofeedooglus: i always forget to try to add the "g" or "k" prefix07:07
regeyadamn it all, there's not a french channel?07:07
_ian_so what do i need to do now?07:07
tonyyarussomrmocha: You can either right-click, or System > Preferences > Desktop background.07:07
mustard5mrmocha, system>>preferences>>desktop background07:07
mrmochaspeaking of gnome, how do I install KDE?07:07
_jason!fr07:08
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:08
_ian_synaptic07:08
tonyyarussomrmocha: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop07:08
_ian_install the kde desktop07:08
regeya!tell mrmocha about kde07:08
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dooglusejofee: try this command: "apt-cache search timer | grep timer"07:08
ejofeemrmocha: there must be a kde metapackage07:08
dooglusmrmocha: install "kubuntu-desktop" for the whole shebang07:08
pat_ok y go to change tanck et good day07:08
ejofeedooglus: thanks. (i am new to the apt-get system.)07:08
_ian__jason im already using the accoun that is still working07:09
dooglusejofee: I expect there's a better way of using apt-cache than piping the output through 'grep' to narrow it down, but I never got around to learning it07:09
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mzinz_165I just installed Opera but it isn't showing up in my Applications... How can I make a shortcut appear?07:09
tonyyarussoWhile Windows users may object that (until Dapper) we don't have "click to instal", I'm thinking the whole apt thing is pretty sweet.07:09
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dooglustonyyarusso: synaptic is "click to install" isn't it?07:10
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Open the menu editor, and add an item.07:10
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, where is the menu editor07:10
_jason_ian_: add the other account to the admin group.  'adduser the_other_account_name admin'.  I'm off to bed now, ask these other kind people in the room if you get stuck07:10
mrmochathanks everyone!07:10
tonyyarussodooglus: Well, it that respect sort of.  I meant with things like downloaded debs.07:10
dooglustonyyarusso: oh, i see07:11
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Urm, either right click in the panel by Applications, or it might be over in System > somewhere.07:11
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, thanks07:11
tonyyarussodooglus: I was checking out screenshots of gdebi a while ago though, and that seems to solve that last bit too.07:12
_ian_Adding user `iantec' to group `admin'...07:13
_ian_Done.07:13
tonyyarussoSo with irssi, are you notified to go looking for the window when you get a pm?07:13
_ian_ok what do i do next?07:13
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_jason_ian_: you should be done, try the other account07:15
scanwinderi just installed gtk-gnutella in ubuntu and its saying im behind a firewall, do i need to open a certain port to get it to work? if so, what port would i need to open and how?07:15
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dooglustonyyarusso: you should see a pink number in the bottom line07:15
SohmcThanks everyone for your help...hopefully things will look better tomorrow morning07:15
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dooglustonyyarusso: you can switch to it by using control-n and control-p or by using alt-5 (or whatever the number is)07:16
tonyyarussodooglus: Got it.07:16
dooglusthe alt-<number> is quite nice once you get used to it07:16
intelikey07:16
dooglusthe same works for gnome-terminal tabs, and firefox tabs07:16
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mzinz_165Where can I find the menu editor?07:17
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_ian_yes its working again thanks so much ill be back alter for another prob eheheh thanks!07:17
intelikeyah gnome-menu-editor ?07:17
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, another problem i have is that I don't even know where i can find an opera icon.  To exec it I have to type opera in terminal07:17
tonyyarussodooglus: I'm loving the tabbing concept for everything.  That and workspaces and virtual terminals.  I can do so much at once with everything...07:17
tonyyarussomzinz_165: /usr/share/pixmaps I believe.07:18
dooglustonyyarusso: I never really found a use for workspaces - maybe I just didn't stick with them enough07:18
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Let me get into Gnome and check that and the menu editor location.07:18
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, and since i exec it through terminal, whenever i close the terminal it quits opera, is that normal?07:18
tonyyarussodooglus: I like them for when I'm working on some stuff, and it's getting cluttered, and I want to run some other things briefly that are unrelated.07:19
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Yes.07:19
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i type opera, and it gives me a couple errors saying how my plugins don't work right, and it won't let me type anything else without killing the command/opera07:19
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intelikeymzinz_165 yes a controlling terminal will/should kill what ever is running in it, upon close.07:19
mzinz_165intelikey, thanks07:20
nomidnesHi, I am having problems with a comp freezing on bootup at starting hotplug...07:20
intelikeymzinz_165 ^Z to background that process and use   fg to bring it back to the front.07:20
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Not sure about the plugins.  I primarily use Firefox.07:21
intelikey^Z == [ctrl] +z07:21
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i want to use FF, but i was trying to upgrade to 1.5 and something went wrong07:21
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Also not finding the menu editor where I thought it was, only through right-clicking the Ubuntu icon.07:21
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, now when i try to run it it says it can't execute child process.... any idea how to revert or fix?07:21
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Do you know what?07:21
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, ?07:21
intelikeythat's now to put shell commands to sleep   you ^Z them   lol07:21
intelikeys/now/how07:22
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, that will work fine, thanks for that :)07:22
tonyyarussomzinz_165: I'd suggest reinstalling 1.07 through apt, which will fix relevant changes to links, remove the 1.5 directory, and start over.07:22
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, how do i add opera if i don't know where an icon is? :/07:22
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, ok, how do i do it through apt?  Thanks so much for all this help.  This is exactly how i like learning ubuntu :)07:22
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iantecthanks again bye07:24
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, the icon isn't in pixmaps07:24
tonyyarussomzinz_165: You can add a menu item without an icon, you'll just need to path to the executable.07:24
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Yeah, I'm not finding an icon either.07:24
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, maybe i could DL one and toss it in therE?07:24
tonyyarussomzinz_165: That would work fine.07:24
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, So.  apt-get remove firefox?07:24
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: No, that'll break stuff.07:25
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox is better.07:25
OrbordeHow can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?07:25
nomidnesIs there any reason an isa video card would not work (with server install)?07:25
intelikeymzinz_165 you do realize that an 'icon' is just a small digital pictuer.  it doesn't "do" anything.    you make a shortcut to the executable file and apply the 'icon' picture for visual idintification (eye candy)07:25
mzinz_165oh ok07:25
mzinz_165intelikey, yeah i realize that, thanks though07:25
mzinz_165intelikey, im just bad with unix, not regular stuff like that hehe07:26
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Let me know if you find a good icon.07:27
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i do07:27
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, well07:27
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, could i just use the one from the exe?07:27
bienveRelampago07:27
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intelikeymzinz_165 the reason i mentioned it, is asking where an icon is when you are wanting the executable kinda makes people look down their noses at you; for some strange reason....07:27
bienveestas jodiendo con linux bro ?07:27
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nbound!es07:27
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.07:27
Orbordenomidnes: I don't think the server install puts an X server on, and very few video cards totally fail at using the Linux framebuffer.07:28
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Which?07:28
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mzinz_165intelikey, i dont want the exe, i want the icon itself so i have an icon to display on my menu.07:29
intelikeyOrborde some do tho.  and framebuffering can be disabled with vga=  at the boot prompt.07:29
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BetterButterBuddFolks, I'm just popping in, but could someone point me to the minimum hardware requirements of Ubuntu?07:30
tonyyarussomzinz_165: http://www.psypress.co.uk/common/images/psypress/rss/opera.gif07:30
nomidnesOrborde/intelikey: Can I boot the system with no video card?07:30
intelikeymzinz_165 yes tonyyarusso answered that the first time you asked....  way up ^ there.07:30
nboundBetterButterBudd, a 386, and very little ram, but thats depending on what u want on it i spose07:30
Orbordeintelikey: I'd say to jump off that bridge when we come to it, though.07:30
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BetterButterBuddHow's 24 MB?07:30
Orbordenomidnes: Yes, you can. Though you'll probably want a video card for the first boot so you can see what you're doing as you configure stuff like SSH.07:31
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i reinstalled firefox and it still gives me the same error: cannot execute child process07:31
Orbordenomidnes: Once you have SSH running, you don't need a video card.07:31
nboundBetterButterBudd, hmmm it'll prob run slow (i have 1GB myself), how fast is ur proc?07:31
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, cannot execute child process, no such entry or directory07:31
BetterButterBudd133 mhz.07:31
nomidnesOrborde: I've tried before and it doesn't seem to want to boot..., Might be the onboard cards its trying to use - which is crap07:31
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Myconid3does ubuntu come with nvidia video drivers?07:32
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Does it say which process it's looking for?07:32
nboundBetterButterBudd, well i wouldnt recommend it, but id imagine it would work07:32
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, but for some reason, when i clicked on that link you gave me firefox opened07:32
Orbordenomidnes: Could be.07:32
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i think the link in my menu may be looking for 1.507:32
cafuegoBetterButterBudd: You'll want to probably run a late 2.2 kernel system on that. Certainly _not_ Ubuntu, if you want X.07:32
Orbordenomidnes: How far does it get?07:32
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, actually im pretty sure that the problem07:32
BetterButterBuddOkay... I'll fool around with other distros, I gues.07:32
nomidnesOrborde: better question is: I have already installed and configured the machine... Is there a way to disable the video card usage?07:32
nboundMyconid3, not good ones :p theres a package u can dload, or u can compile ones from nvidia07:32
tonyyarussomzinz_165: That could very well be.  Check what the launcher points to.07:32
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cafuegoBetterButterBudd: Try debian potato, that should be just fine.07:32
_particleyo07:32
quad_How do I view my system details, such as RAM, CPU, etc...?07:33
cafuegoOha ctually, woody would be okay too.07:33
cafuegoquad_: cat /proc/cpuinfo; free; lspci07:33
_particleIs there a guide for upgrading xorg to 7.0 on Ubuntu 5.10?07:33
_particleI hear it is faster07:33
intelikeyquad_ also  df -h07:33
quad_cafuego, thank you07:33
cafuego_particle: It won't be faster when it stops working, which is what will most likely happen.07:33
Orbordenomidnes: You could unplug the video card? Can you log into it via SSH?07:33
_particlecafuego: I suppose I can wait until April07:34
BetterButterBudd(Yeah, thanks a lot! I'll look into it.)07:34
cafuego_particle: I haven't seen 7.0 in dapper yet07:34
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_particlecafuego: I would be surprised if it goes gold w/o it07:34
nomidnesOrborde: Normally the machine boots ok, but when I swapped to the isa card it stopped working... It stops at hotplug07:34
cafuego6.8.2-7707:34
tonyyarussocafuego: potato?07:34
cafuegotonyyarusso: spud07:34
ejofeecould somebody please help me understand this ?: Propagation of covered works is permitted without limitation provided it does not enable parties other than you to make or receive copies. Propagation which does enable them to do so is permitted, as "distribution", under the conditions of sections 4-6 below.07:34
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cafuegotonyyarusso: I realise potato is old, but it's designed for (and on) machines with low ram and slower cpus.07:35
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Orbordenomidnes: I think you've gone over my head. I'm not sure whether you'd need to reconfigure to do a swap like that, or what.07:35
ejofee(it's from the first draft of gpl 3)07:35
nomidnesOrborde: if i unlpug the card the machine will not boot correctly and has a kernel panic at the very initial boot07:35
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tonyyarussocafuego: Ah.07:35
Orbordenomidnes: Yes, I think I'm out of my depth now. Sorry.07:35
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BetterButterBuddHmm... none of the mirrors seem to have anything older than woody.07:36
tonyyarussoejofee: Translation: "Give up and find a lawyer if you want to know what this means."07:36
cilkayHello. I'm trying to run kynaptic on Breezy. I get prompted for the root password. When I enter the same password that works for root everywhere else, kynaptic claims it's the wrong password. What gives?07:36
intelikeylooks like it says if you intend privet use it is free else it has terms attached ejofee07:36
nomidnesOrborde: thanks for the help.. I think I might need help from someone that knows about the boot order/config files and the kernel configs + pci/isa setup on ubuntu, its over my head aswell07:36
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, how do i tell? through menu editor and look at command?07:37
intelikeypersonal use maybe i should say.07:37
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Yeah.07:37
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grndslm12anybody here know much about window managers or how to easily manipulate windows...07:37
tonyyarussoWhat's a good command-line alternative to Gaim?07:37
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grndslm12specifically, i have a dell 2405fpw, and i'd like all windows to first maximize....and if i hit the restore button (between minimize and maximize), i'd like it to use the maximum heighth and half of the width.....and "snap-to" the left or right half of the screen (this would be similar to "throwing" a window onto the second screen07:37
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quad_cafuego, how did I view the free/used RAM amount again?07:38
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cafuegoquad_: 'free'07:38
cafuegoquad_: See also 'top'.07:38
ejofeeintelikey: oh, it now makes some sense to me (i have to reread the context plus some definitions).07:38
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, firefox %u07:38
ejofeeintelikey: thanks07:39
intelikeynp07:39
cafuegoquad_: Alternatively, there should be a System Monitor in your Apps -> System menu07:39
tonyyarussomzinz_165: which firefox07:39
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i only had one link to begin with07:39
tonyyarussomzinz_165: (Tell me the output of that.)07:39
ejofeeintelikey: i think it's some sort of systematically legalese way to put things, that's why it confused me07:39
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, then someone was going to try and help me switch what the link pointed at i think with some commands i didn't recognize07:39
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, then when it didn't work07:39
intelikeyyes indeed.07:39
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i had no way to make either one work, and now im here07:39
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, whats the %u mean?07:40
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Refers to the current user.07:40
intelikeykinda like $USER07:41
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_particleman I love gdesklets07:41
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Have you tried 'which firefox' yet?07:43
intelikeyhmmmm i have three other systems i could shut down now...07:43
tonyyarussoI want to see how far going through that linking got.07:43
_particlehow many hugs are you wantin'07:43
intelikeylol07:43
_particleeverybody just gets two free ones07:43
intelikeyyeah....  ;)07:43
mzinz_165what do you mean 'which firefox'07:44
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, what do you mean 'which firefox'07:44
intelikeytype that in a term mzinz_16507:44
mzinz_165intelikey, k07:44
tonyyarussoWhat's a good command-line alternative to Gaim?07:44
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, it just goes to next line in term07:45
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, no output07:45
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jariep1_what mail package is easy to configure07:45
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Well isn't that interesting...07:45
jariep1_mua07:45
Myconid3does linux have a fast user switching fucntionality such as macos and windows have?07:45
intelikeytonyyarusso tik ?07:45
tonyyarussoMyconid3: Applications > System > New Login07:45
ejofeeintelikey: yet... what is then the meaning of "propagation", in this context... "Propagation of covered works is permitted without limitation provided it does not enable parties other than you to make or receive copies."07:45
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, indeed07:46
tonyyarussointelikey: Will that do multiple protocols?07:46
jariep1_why was the mail user agent removed from ubuntu 5.10?07:46
tonyyarussomzinz_165: You do have something that works for starting firefox right now, right?  Can you figure out what it's running?07:46
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mzinz_165yeah hang on07:47
intelikeytonyyarusso i never used it. just did a search for aim    apt-cache search aim07:47
tonyyarussomzinz_165: (Just in case that was a simple error, that should have gone into the terminal without the quotes.)07:47
mzinz_165lol the only way ive got it to work was when you linked me and i clicked on it07:47
tonyyarussointelikey: Ah.07:47
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i know :)07:47
intelikeyyou can read all about it with apt-cache show07:47
cafuegojariep1_: What?07:47
qsrvhi07:47
mzinz_165www.google.com07:47
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Figured.  Thought I'd check though.07:47
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cafuegoMyconid3: The new Ubuntu 6.04 will have an even better one :-)07:48
pl_iceyello :)07:48
jariep1_well, I guess i better ask my newbie question, how do I get email working in ubuntu?07:48
pl_ice!firefox07:48
intelikeytony apt-cache show tik07:48
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, right there i right clicked>open in web browser, and FF1.07 came07:48
cafuegojariep1_: Pick a mail client, set up an account.07:48
jariep1_cafuego, no i mean mail server07:48
qsrvI've got a strange problem with evolution. When I start it, it connects to the email servers (gmail for example), gets the number of messages and then does nothing.07:48
cafuegojariep1_: The default is Evolution, which sould be in your Intrenet Applications menu.07:48
cafuegojariep1_: Ah. postfix is installed, but not configured.07:48
qsrvIt just sits there telling me it's getting message 1 of n07:48
_particlewhat's better--NetBeans or Eclipse?07:48
nomidnesEclipse07:49
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jariep1_cafuego, is postfix hard to get configured and operational?07:49
pl_iceu guys seen where is firefox 1.5 or higher, my respo got 1.0.7 ... i've enabled backports etc07:49
intelikeyyou guys have got to learn apt-cache    why use debian based system if you don't learn how to use it.07:49
_particlewill eclipse do mono?07:49
cafuegojariep1_: Nope, not at all. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix'07:49
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: But do you know the path to the executable?07:50
jariep1_ok07:50
nomidnes_particle: yeah it will07:50
_particlecool07:50
_particleI smell some ports07:50
cafuegojariep1_: ... just answer a few simple questions and off you go. You can also tweak it later by editing /etc/postfix/main.cf07:50
nomidnes_particle: see http://www.sitepoint.com/print/get-started-mono07:50
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, oh07:50
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cilkayI installed Breezy using debootstrap. The root account was enabled by default. In fact, there was no root password when I booted the first time. No matter what password I use for Kynaptic, it tells me I have the wrong one. Apparently, kynaptic expects sudo to be used. When I attempted to run "sudo kynaptic" and entered my regular user's password, kynaptic didn't even start. How do I get Kynaptic to work?07:51
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, is there any way to find that through FF?07:51
nomidnes_particle: or better http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html07:51
cafuego!find kynaptic07:51
jariep1_cafuego, I just need to get dyndns working, since i have dynamic IP07:51
ubotukynaptic: (Graphical package manager), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1:0.55+cvs20050115-0ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 1112 kB07:51
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_particleI've yet to find a decent guide--maybe one of these will do07:52
cafuegojariep1_: There should be prepackaged dyndns clients you can use. Also make sure your ISP isn't blocking port 25.07:52
jariep1_ok07:52
cafuego... which they might be.07:52
!lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we have an unofficial support channel here on freenode ( ##xen ) for the Xen server virtualization project. It's a small but growing channel---if you'd like to help out, it's a bit quiet this time of day. Please stop by. Thanks! :)07:53
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Not that I'm aware of.07:53
cafuegoCoz otherwise i should have received 'connection refused' by now.07:53
doogluscilkay: you can lock the root password so it's like it "should" by using "sudo passwd -l".  I suggest using sudo to do it so you can be sure you're not losing root access.07:53
jariep1_cafuego, ok07:53
cafuegojariep1_: So you might be out of luck :-(07:53
intelikeyhmmmm spam for ircops   .....07:53
intelikeythat's new.07:53
cafuegoinfra red cops?07:54
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, hmm07:54
intelikeynot ir cops  irc ops07:54
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cilkaydooglus: I don't really want to use sudo every time I want to execute something as root. I'm fine with using a root shell when necessary.07:54
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cafuegocilkay: Well, run 'sudo -s' for a root shell.07:55
intelikeyor sudo -07:55
doogluscilkay: I've heard rumours that having a root password set breaks some gui apps.  maybe that's the problem you're having.  try enabling sudo, locking the root password, and seeing if things get better.  you can always go back to how you are now after.07:55
intelikeyor sudo bash   even07:55
cilkaycafuego: the issue is not that I can't get a root shell. I can get one no problems.07:56
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cilkaydooglus: that would be an interesting bug. I'll try that, thanks.07:56
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intelikeydooglus where did you hear thos rumours ?07:56
adriyelz_sleepienight everybody07:56
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intelikey:)07:58
adriyelz_sleepieusing root is a bad idea, using GUI apps in Gnome anywhere near your config files is a worse idea, thats the honest truth07:58
Orbordenomidnes: Wait...it's ISA? That just clicked. It could be that ISA isn't supported in the 2.6 kernel, but I really have no idea.07:58
adriyelz_sleepiecertain Gnome apps will mangle your configs, having them running under root gives them that power, Ubuntu has root disabled by default, don't be stupid, its to protect you from yourself07:58
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tonyyarussointelikey: In here, just the other day, people were talking about that problem with root and GUI apps.07:59
adriyelz_sleepietonyyarusso, thats been around for forever and a half07:59
adriyelz_sleepieavoid using nano on your configs too07:59
OrbordeRepeating for the bazillionth time, sadly...How can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?07:59
adriyelz_sleepieI have to go take a shower, because I stink, so I am gonna go, ttyl07:59
intelikeyroot is disabled  eeh  ?????    lol07:59
Terminusadriyelz_sleepie: what's wrong with nano?08:00
intelikeythat's a good one...  :)08:00
adriyelz_sleepieintelikey, disabled not in a literal sense, but its not presented either08:00
ownerintelikey try sudo su08:00
adriyelz_sleepieGAH, must take a shower08:00
intelikeynot presented ?   what do you mean ?08:00
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ownerinteli type sudo su in a terminal08:00
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intelikeyowner why ?   i know how su and sudo work.08:01
ownersudo su shows a root shell08:01
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dooglusowner: sudo su is silly.  just "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" will work, and won't run an extra su process that you don't need08:02
intelikeyand my sudoers file says  root ALL=(ALL) ALL08:02
jariep1_cafuego, you still there?08:02
intelikeyother than the lectures line thats all that it says...08:02
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jariep1_how do i run email through dynamic IP using DynDns?08:03
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dooglusintelikey: I heard the rumours in here, I'm pretty sure.08:03
dooglusintelikey: I'll see if I can dig up the logs if you're interested08:03
ownerboth work doog08:03
intelikeyyeah i think the origenator of it may have spoken on it just a minute ago.08:03
dooglusowner: yes.  but "sudo su" is slower and uses more memory08:04
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ownermust be a tiny amount but point taken..08:04
intelikeybesides sudo *  would error out for me.08:04
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ownerdooglus im curious whats the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s08:04
intelikeyso you could say my sudo is disabled08:04
underscore_oh snap08:04
underscore_I accidentally chmodded my /08:05
underscore_dir08:05
underscore_;'/08:05
dooglusowner: "sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo su" works too.  if you like running extra processes for no reason, maybe you'll find it usefu08:05
underscore_How do I fix it?08:05
underscore_lolol08:05
dooglusl08:05
intelikeychmod 777 /   as root underscore_08:05
Steilheh08:05
underscore_well08:05
underscore_Gah08:06
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dooglusowner: "sudo -i" sets the environment up for root, "sudo -s" leaves the environment alone08:06
dooglusowner: so if you do a "cd" after "sudo -i", you'll go to root's home directory08:06
intelikeyjust -  works also08:06
underscore_-bash: chmod: command not found08:06
dooglusowner: whereas if you do a "cd" after "sudo -s", you'll go to your home directory08:06
intelikeysudo -08:06
ownerok08:06
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dooglusintelikey: you sure?08:06
dooglus$ sudo -08:06
dooglussudo: '-' requires an argument08:06
intelikeytry it.08:06
owneris there anything a sudo -i shell cant do that a su shell can08:07
owner?08:07
cafuegoowner: No, because they're identical.08:07
underscore_brb08:07
intelikeyoh no only su -    sorry my bad08:07
cafuego(ie: unrestericted root shells)08:07
ownersudo -i can be used without enabling the root account in ubuntu08:07
ownerhence enabling it isnt need that means08:08
underscore_Well08:08
underscore_I clicked08:08
intelikeyi haven't used sudo enough to keep up with it.08:08
underscore_'run as different user'08:08
underscore_'root'08:08
underscore_and everything disappears unless I alt tab.08:08
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cafuego!enter08:08
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!08:08
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underscore_Would restarting without shutting down hurt anything badly?08:09
cafuegounderscore_: What, hitting reset?08:09
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cafuegoNot likely08:09
owner!ubotu08:09
ubotuYep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.08:09
tonyyarussoAny ideas why suspend/hibernate would not be working/how I could find out what the problem is?  (They have worked on a previous installation on the same machine.  ThinkPad T43)08:10
vskyeubotu - please....08:10
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, vskye08:10
cafuegotonyyarusso: The machine wants to be mine, that's why it's being difficult.08:10
underscore_I'll brb.08:10
ilba7rtonyyarusso, just wondering if you have tried ibm-apci08:10
intelikeyenabling / disabling     bah.    root is not "disabled" or you simply could not use it.      symantic i suppose but i wish people would not say root is disabled.           on a system that has no root password  run  apt-get remove sudo  and your root account will be affectively disabled.08:10
underscore_What is chmod +x?08:11
vskyeubotu - ;)08:11
ubotuI don't know, vskye08:11
ownerinteli the account is locked but root does exist08:11
ownerobviously08:11
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ownerubuntu copied mac osx08:11
underscore_Brb.08:11
enycunderscore_: in a file x = eKecutable flag08:12
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intelikeylate hes gone.08:12
enycunderscore_: chmod +x switches on all the X flags essentially08:13
cafuegolate hes gone 2.08:13
intelikey:)08:13
enyco08:13
enycdarn08:13
cafuego`man chmod' is more succinct ;-)08:13
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intelikeywell now how to make my sound work.... ?08:14
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ownerinteli you dont have sound?08:15
intelikeyhehhe this ubuntu system doesnt  :)08:15
intelikeyi have a /dev/dsp  but it isn't hooked to the speakers or something08:16
kevixanyone know where to find the changelogs of an ubuntu package08:16
ownerinteli try killall esd in terminal08:16
intelikey /usr/share/docs    maybe ?08:16
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Sp4rKyhi08:16
ownerand change audio output to alsa08:16
intelikeyesd ?08:16
intelikeylol08:16
intelikeyconsole only i doubt that esd is running08:17
Sp4rKyanyone have a 8252/855 video card using the i810 driver ?08:17
vskyeintelikey - fire up kmix and set you're volumes up08:17
dooglusintelikey: the root account *is* disabled by default in ubuntu.08:17
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dooglusintelikey: what that means is that the root password is locked, so that logins as root are impossible08:17
ownerbut you can sudo -i08:17
dooglusintelikey: the "passwd" man page explains it as follows: -l, --lock :  Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing the password to a value which matches no possible encrypted value08:17
thisplayerhello...anybody familiar with mysql on ubuntu?08:18
kevixintelikey could you pick any package and look to see if you find a changelog entry and it has any @ubuntu address08:18
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NivkoHi08:18
Nivkosombody active?:p08:18
Nivkosomebody*08:18
revdevthisplayer: ask your question08:18
cafuegoshhh ... everybody stay quiet... *snigger*08:18
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dooglusowner: you can get a root *shell* using "sudo -i", yes.  but you can't *log in* as root, since the account is locked / disabled / whatever you want to call it08:18
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tonyyaru1soHrm, I must have timed out or something.08:19
ownertrue08:19
NivkoI have a question: I'm busy with installing a webserver with PHP and MySQL Its running perfect but: When im installing Plesk he says: Xmail not confgiured and mysqlserver how i configure it?08:19
kevixcafuego: would you as a -dev know where to find changelogs for ubuntu packages that list @ubuntu addresses?08:19
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Sp4rKyi can't run the dri correctly08:19
Sp4rKymy fps is about 30008:19
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tonyyarussoThere we go.08:20
intelikeykevix looking08:20
Sp4rKyand the Direct rendering can't be started08:20
kestaswo1kNivko: how's that a ubuntu question?08:20
tonyyarussoilba7r: I have it installed.  Haven't configured anything after that.08:20
tonyyarusso(ibm-acpi that is)08:20
kevixintelikey: thanks.08:20
Nivko@ kestaswo1k: Qmail and Mysqlserver isin ubuntu08:20
thisplayeri'm trying to connect to mysql through IP instead of 'localhost'...ie ( $ mysql -u root -h 192.168.0.5 -p ) ...and doing so gives me this error ( ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.21' (111) )...i asked #mysql ..they say its serverside...not mysql08:20
ilba7rtonyyarusso, thanx am thinking of installing it but was looking for feedback first :)08:20
intelikeykevix there is no @ubuntu in any of them08:21
cafuegoNivko: Plesk is proprietary software, ask the people you bought it from...08:21
kevixthisplayer: that is what I thought! thank you for confirming it!08:21
NivkoSo i was thinking that you know how i configure qmail and mysqlserver08:21
tonyyarussoilba7r: It worked for me before; I'm not sure what my issue is now.08:21
intelikeysearching /usr now.08:21
NivkoYe, but i have send a mail08:21
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Nivkobut i've i configured Mysqlserver and qmail then its work08:21
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kestaswo1kthis is a PLESK problem08:21
cafuegoNivko: Perhaps check its config file, see where it expects the binaries/libraries to be.08:21
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eobanbNivko, ask the Plesk people08:21
ilba7rok thanx tonyyarusso08:22
kestaswo1kI at least dont even know what plesk is08:22
kestaswo1klet alone how to configure it08:22
NivkoI dont know where the config file's are08:22
cafuegoplesk is a host control panel on web thingie08:22
kevixthisplayer: did you check that mysql is running (look at 'ps -A f' output )08:22
eobanbkestaswo1k, it's a sort of cpanel-like web frontend for various server software packages08:22
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cafuegoBut yeah, completely proprietary.08:22
eobanbright.08:22
kestaswo1kI see08:22
thisplayerkevix: yes...because i can connect through localhost08:22
CythrilHow would I go about burning MP3s into a music CD with Ubuntu?08:22
cafuegoAnd don't even get me started on qmail ;-)08:22
ownercythril i recommend k3b08:23
CythrilCan I get that in Synaptic08:23
Cythril?08:23
owneryes08:23
eobanbyes.08:23
CythrilAwesome, thank you. :)08:23
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intelikeykevix 'grep -HiRe"@ubunut" /usr '    and it will find a few hits   not sure what you are really looking for tho08:23
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Nivkoah yeh08:24
doogluskevix: you know about the /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz files?  they have email addresses in, for example: /usr/share/doc/usbutils/changelog.Debian.gz: -- Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>  Wed,  2 Feb 2005 14:17:18 +000008:24
thisplayerkevix: i did a netstat...(im not that familiar with it...but)..i noticed that port 3306 is open...but only for 127.0.0.1...08:24
NivkoI have 1 question more08:24
!lilo:*! TwinReverb asks us to mention his channel, ##heaven , generally intended for the more religious of our users....please feel free to stop by, and be nice :)08:24
Nivkohow i can automatic start a program when the computer starts up?08:24
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kestaswo1kNivko: depends what kind of program it is08:25
intelikeyinit scripts Nivko08:25
nomidnesgo to the sessions preferences08:25
dooglusNivko: I add the program's name to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh08:25
cafuegoNivko: add a link to its startup script in /etc/rc2.d/08:25
Nivkoinit? where i can find it08:25
thisplayerNivko: goto your System up top and then Preferences...then Sessions08:25
NivkoOk08:25
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NivkoOk08:25
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, any other ideas?08:26
kevixthisplayer: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf it mentions 'bind address' as 127.0.0.108:26
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kevixdooglus: which packages was that ?08:27
mzinz_165intelikey, Hey, we never got the Firefox thing figured out.. any ideas of what I could try?  When I try to open Firefox through the applications shortcut it gives me a "cant execute child program" error.08:27
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: Try making some launchers and seeing if any of them work.08:27
intelikeyhmmmm you know i could turn mingetty off on tty7-24  and put an 'openvt' command in the init scripts for an auto-login console08:27
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mzinz_165Should I work on that or try to just re-install 1.5 again and take it from there?08:27
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cafuego!ff1.508:28
doogluskevix: every package08:28
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion08:28
intelikeymzinz_165 what is the shortcut line ?08:28
doogluskevix: look in /usr/share/doc - there's a directory for every package you have installed, and each directory has a changelog.Debian.gz08:28
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thisplayerkevix: do u know if i can add another address...or i must change it to the one i prefer?08:28
mzinz_165intelikey, firefox %u08:28
mzinz_165intelikey, but firefox DOES work when i click on a link in irc and 'open in web browser'08:28
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Sp4rKynobody to help me :(08:29
kevixthisplayer: dont know, never changed it.08:29
luoweihello ,everyone08:29
thisplayerkevix: hmm...i'll try both...thanks..08:29
intelikeytry the full path  and without the %u and see what happens mzinz_16508:29
mzinz_165intelikey, what would the full path be08:29
kevixdooglus: then why is there no changelog.gz or ubuntu.changelog.gz?08:29
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The_Bilge_Ratmornin08:30
intelikeylike /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox     or something like that....   i don't have ff so you will just have to look08:30
tonyyarussomzinz_165: You can go ahead and try getting it again, but it would be better if you understood what it was doing now first.08:30
mzinz_165intelikey, k08:30
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, thought so08:30
ilba7rmzinz_165, try either which firefox or locate firefox08:30
mzinz_165ilba7r, which firefox does nothing, ill try the other08:30
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mzinz_165ilba7r, it scrolled through a bunch of paths then ended back at cmd line08:31
luoweiwho can tell me how to use the operating system?08:31
jesse_cool5any1 know how to restart ubuntu with out actually shuting down the computer and then it turing back on08:31
rendi# apt-setup08:31
rendibash: apt-setup: command not found08:31
rendihellp08:31
intelikeyis it not 'mozilla-firefox' ?08:31
The_Bilge_Ratwhich part luowei?08:31
ilba7rmzinz_165, it looked for it in your path just scroll up till you find it08:31
intelikeythe executable i mean08:31
luoweii'm comer08:31
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jesse_cool5isnt it apt-get08:31
The_Bilge_Ratno08:32
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jesse_cool5well thats the only one i know lol and dkpg08:32
The_Bilge_Ratwhy do you need to restart?08:32
doogluskevix: I guess debian-based systems call their changelogs "changelog.Debian.gz"08:32
luoweiwho are you?08:32
jesse_cool5i c cant i restart gnome then?08:32
The_Bilge_Ratyes just hit ctrl-alt-backspace08:32
doogluskevix: sometimes there is a changelog.gz, but there's always a changelog.Debian.gz08:33
The_Bilge_Ratitll log you out of x tho08:33
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jesse_cool5yer thats fine i just couldnt remeber it i knew it was something like that08:33
The_Bilge_Ratso unless you are chatting here on a command line Id wait08:33
The_Bilge_Rat:-)08:33
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rendi!version08:33
uboturendi: Do they come in packets of five?08:33
jesse_cool5easy enough to log back in?08:33
The_Bilge_Rator go to a prompt and type /etc/init.d/gdm stop or start as the case may be08:33
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jesse_cool5with outtyping reboot?08:34
rendi!tell me version08:34
intelikeyrestart ^08:34
The_Bilge_Ratshould unless its your x server that is causing whatever issue there is08:34
buulianis there an install script available for upgrading firefox 1 -> 1.508:34
doogluskevix: on my system, the ubuntu email addresses I have in changelogs are adconrad, ajmitch, amu, bcollins, ben.collins, charles, cjwatson, daniel.holbach, daniel.stone, doko, fabbione, ian, ivoks, iwj, jani, jbailey, jeff.waugh, jriddell, lamont, martin.pitt, mdz, michael.vogt, nafallo, ogra, scott, siretart, sistpoty, slomo, tfheen, and thom08:34
rendi!what i'm running08:34
uboturendi: Bugger all, i dunno08:34
mzinz_165ilba7r, i think i found it08:34
mzinz_165ilba7r, well i found a way to open it through term08:34
rendiwhat command to see my ubuntu version08:34
ilba7rgreat08:34
The_Bilge_Ratbuulian not yet itll be in Dapper drake or whatever thayre calling 6.x08:34
ilba7rso you know now where it is installed08:35
CythrilCan someone help me with k3b?  It can't seem to burn my CDs.08:35
intelikeyanyone know what package provides start-stop-daemon ?08:35
kevixdooglus: hmm. that looks like most of the folks I know.08:35
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revdevCythril: what error message are you getting?08:35
mzinz_165/usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox08:35
mzinz_165ilba7r, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox08:35
tonyyarussorendi: cat /etc/issue08:35
buulianwhy not just write a simple .sh script for that? wouldn't that get the job done08:35
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, /usr/lib/mozlila-firefox/firefox08:35
rendithanks08:35
ajmitchdooglus: eh?08:35
CythrilIt says: k3b: ERROR: (K3bAudioStreamer) could not write to 2608:35
Cythril in the terminal08:35
ilba7rmzinz_165, you can make a symbolic link for it in /usr/bin08:35
kevixdooglus: I'm trying to find an easy way to find those say on packages.ubuntu.com08:36
tonyyarussomzinz_165: As they said.08:36
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The_Bilge_Ratlots of other modules depend on the firefox modules you would break other stuff by upgrading at the moment theres an article on it somewhere on the Ubuntu site08:36
jariep1_can somebody help me with ddclient?08:36
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mzinz_165ilba7r, meaning a shortcut to execute it from there?08:36
ilba7rmzinz_165, yap08:36
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Sort of.  It's even more so than a shortcut, but a similar idea.08:36
enycHrrrm08:37
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, whats the difference? and how?08:37
jariep1_ddclient for dyndns08:37
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, and is that where most 'symbolic links' are stored?08:37
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enycThes dapper 2.6.15 k.prnel seems good ;-)08:37
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, sort of like program files? or am i way off08:37
jariep1_What does "Interface used for dynamic DNS servic" mean?08:37
intelikeysudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox08:37
enyc'[preempt] ...08:37
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mzinz_165intelikey, thanks08:37
buuliananyone interested in a script that did that?08:37
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ajmitchkevix: what are you trying to find?08:38
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The_Bilge_Ratdid what?08:38
ilba7rintelikey, /usr/local is reserved for system admin in debian the right place is /usr/bin/08:38
buulianupgraded firefox08:38
tonyyarussomzinz_165: I have symbolic links all over the place, for various purposes.  Essentially with them, anything that point to that spot acts exactly as if it were referencing the file they point to.08:38
intelikeyilba7r usr/local/bin is in the path on all systems.08:39
kevixajmitch: I am trying to find where I could find the last address of the person who made a change to an ubuntu package08:39
mzinz_165ilba7r, i just made it to /usr/local, how do i move it? sudo mv /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox?08:39
dooglusajmitch: I think he's an undercover agent for a rival distribution.  he's wanting a list of the major ubuntu developers so he can take them all out at once.08:39
enycbut the darned dapper kernel package uses a dependancy on a version oy a program that is not satisfied in breezy ;-(08:39
intelikeymany third party apps install there.08:39
ilba7rintelikey, for debian is reserved for sys admin you can check it out on debian webpages08:39
intelikeyhmmm i thought this was ubuntu08:39
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, so it is a shortcut, but can be used just like the regular executable?08:39
enyceven though changing this dep. version and rebuilding the package appears to make the package usable in breezy fine ;-08:39
enyc)08:39
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Yeah.08:39
ajmitchkevix: right, and you found the changelog.Debian.gz, where all the changes are recorded08:40
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ilba7rmzinz_165, this is just a technicality it will work for you fine as it is now08:40
CythrilI'm curious if anyone could help me burn a CD using k3b, when I try it gives me an error.08:40
ajmitchkevix: both debian & ubuntu changes08:40
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tonyyarussomzinz_165: You can do it for non-executables too.  If something's looking for a config file in the wrong spot, throw in a symlink there and it will be happy.08:40
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ajmitchkevix: why do you want that info?08:40
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enycCythril: hrrm I knowa  breezy kubuntu user who has error writing cds08:40
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, thats cool08:40
kevixajmitch: do you follow the debian-devel mailing list?08:41
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, one of the things i dont get about unix is that i never know where my programs are.. is that just how it is? in windows everything is in program files (mostly), and on this it seems like they're all over08:41
intelikeycould have used $HOME/bin/  just as well.08:41
CythrilI'm using plain ol' Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.08:41
ajmitchkevix: yes, sadly08:41
intelikeyreserved for admin.....  like that makes a differance anyway...08:41
intelikeyif you can sudo you are admin08:41
mzinz_165well, firefox works from the link in apps now, its a miracle08:41
ilba7rmzinz_165, for debian all programs that useres need are or have symbolic links in /usr/bin08:42
thisplayerkevix: i've changed..and i see that the IP registers with 3306 port, but now i think there is a permission issue, because i cannot connect for instance when i run a basic PHP script it tells me this ( mysql_connect(): Host '192.168.1.1' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server )08:42
mzinz_165intelikey, yeah, its no biggy :)08:42
mzinz_165ilba7r, whats debian08:42
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mzinz_165ilba7r, i get what you're saying though08:42
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kevixajmitch: well folks say they want to know how to contact the person who changed their package, and I was looking for the easiest way to find it, but I could't find it on pakcage.ubuntu.org and I'm  not on an ubuntu systtem at the moment.08:42
intelikeymzinz_165 debian.com08:42
ilba7rmzinz_165, it is the distro that ubuntu is based on08:42
tonyyarussomzinz_165: You can usually 'which programname' to find the executable in the normal paths.08:42
CythrilThat's weird, now all of a sudden it will burn.  :o08:43
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, which saves time compared to 'locate' ?08:43
tonyyarussomzinz_165: /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin for most.08:43
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mzinz_165tonyyarusso, oh, good to know08:43
tonyyarussomzinz_165: If it's in one of those, yes.08:43
cafuegointelikey: debian.org *thwap*08:43
ajmitchkevix: right08:43
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, whats bin stand for, binary?08:43
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tonyyarussoHow can I make a loop in a bash script?  (Like lbl A, goto A)08:43
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Yeah.08:43
ajmitchkevix: changelogs for each package are available on packages.ubuntu.com08:43
NivkoAs i have installed Apache in Syntaptic how i can start him?08:44
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Which is a little silly, because it's a computer, and everything's binary, but that's what they call it.08:44
kevixajmitch: I seem to get mixed results, some there, some not08:44
NivkoAs i have installed Apache in Syntaptic how i can start him?08:44
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, this isn't a problem at all, but when i start opera it says 'couldn't start plug-in executable "operamotifwrapper". please install motif'08:44
aenthey... mysql won't stay running on my system, when I run mysqld_safe, it says its started, then like 2 seconds later, says ended08:44
aentanyone have ideas on what the problem is?08:44
cafuegoNivko: via the init script in /etc/init.d/08:44
ajmitchkevix: they ought to all be there, got examples of missing changelogs?08:45
mzinz_165tonyyarusso, i searched for motif in the package manager and thought i installed it (or something that said it helped install motif apps), but i still get it, any idea?08:45
kestaswo1ktonyyarusso: binary as opposed to ascii08:45
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kestaswo1kit's a weird difference but it makes sense08:45
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NivkoRead, i wont start him not auto start08:45
tonyyarussomzinz_165: Plugin link, perhaps?08:45
Nivkoi dont know where syntaptic him installed08:45
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tonyyarussokestaswo1k: Right.08:45
dooglusajmitch: the changelog link on http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/mplayer-nogui is broken08:45
thisplayerkevix: i've changed..and i see that the IP registers with 3306 port, but now i think there is a permission issue, because i cannot connect for instance when i run a basic PHP script it tells me this ( mysql_connect(): Host '192.168.1.1' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server ) ....[this is repost dunno if u saw it last time] 08:45
intelikeybut in "linux"  whether deb or rh or any other flavour  */bin  is user apps  and  */sbin is admin apps.08:45
revdevnivko: if it's apache2: sudo apache2ctl -k start08:45
ilba7r!tell mzinz_165 about repos08:45
mzinz_165ilba7r, i have all the repos08:45
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Nivkook thnx08:46
ilba7rmzinz_165, i have opera installed with no problems08:46
mzinz_165ilba7r, random08:46
Nivkorevdev08:46
ilba7ri think it is libmotif let me check08:46
Nivkoand how i start mysql?08:46
kevixajmitch: hmm, I just check some for breezy and they seem there, but I had issues with dapper.08:46
dooglusajmitch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/ubuntu-desktop 's changelog link is broken too08:46
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ajmitchdooglus: ok, I'll ask someone what's up with those08:46
ilba7r!tell mzinz_165 about opera08:46
dooglusajmitch: maybe it's the case for all dapper packages, I don't know08:46
elverI have a SERIOUS problem. I upgraded to Dapper and now when I boot up, grub loads the kernel just fine from the Ubuntu ReiserFS partition on the SATA drive (it's /dev/sda3), but when the kernel starts loading the modules from there (option: root=/dev/sda3) it says that /dev/sda3 does not exist and drops me to a busybox shell. HELP!08:46
ilba7rmzinz_165, yes install libmotif308:47
Nivko!tell08:47
ajmitchprobably some update script not running properly08:47
mzinz_165ilba7r, from package manager08:47
revdevnivko ... i'm not sure try sudo mysqld08:47
ilba7ryap and i installed also motif-clients08:47
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Nivko060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission den08:47
Nivkoied08:47
Nivko060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Do you already have another mysqld server running on soc08:47
Nivkoket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?08:47
Nivko060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Aborting08:47
Nivko060118  8:47:38 [Note]  mysqld: Shutdown complete08:48
Nivkoi got that08:48
Nivkooh srry for paste08:48
Nivkosry08:48
kevixajmitch: well it doesnt seem helpful if you can only get stable changelogs and not testing changelogs08:48
revdevnivko, mysql is already running08:48
ajmitchkevix: I know :)08:48
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ilba7r!tell Nivko about pastebin08:48
revdevtry logging in08:48
Nivkook08:48
macrican any body help me with configuring Creative Live Web cam on ubuntu breezy08:48
Nivkoand08:48
intelikeycafuego '<browser> debian.com'  will put you in www.<your_locale>.debian.org     that's why i say .com08:48
Nivkowhere is the apache dir?08:48
Nivkothe configs en htdocs08:48
Nivkoand*08:48
mzinz_165ilba7r, i see libswt-motif3-java and libswt-motif3-jni?08:48
revdevnivko should be /var/www08:48
Nivkoand configs?08:49
ilba7rmzinz_165, you can not find libmotif08:49
mzinz_165ilba7r, nope08:49
revdevnivko configs are in /etc/apache208:49
kevixajmitch: could you let the powers that be to run what ever script more often and tell debian folks about it?08:49
Nivkoand php ?:P08:49
ajmitchkevix: I can only ask, I'm not one of those powers that be :)08:49
ilba7rmzinz_165, than you need to enable some of your repos. you do not have them all enabled08:49
aentso anyone have any ideas on how to get mysql to work again?08:50
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mzinz_165ilba7r, unless there is a way to reveal more.... i literally have every single one checked.08:50
kevixajmitch: who should I possible bother^W^Wask?08:50
ilba7rmzinz_165, it is in multiverse08:50
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mzinz_165ilba7r, i was just doing search08:50
revdevwell, nivko, php.ini is in /etc/php5/apache2 ... if you've installed php508:50
ilba7rmzinz_165, ok press reload in synaptic and search for it again. make sure multiverse is enabled08:51
Nivkoi'have php408:51
ajmitchkevix: I've asked someone, I'll try & find out sometime08:51
mzinz_165ilba7r, hang on08:51
revdevbut if you installed all the right packages with synaptic, you shouldn't need to know where php is. it should just work. have you tried it?08:51
Nivkonop08:51
kevixajmitch: thats for all the info and help!08:51
Nivkoi'have installed with syntaptic: php4 module for apache mysql server and apache08:52
revdevtry putting a php file in the apache's doc root and then navigating to http://localhost/whateverfile.php08:52
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revdevit should work08:52
mzinz_165ilba7r, random question, nomatter what sensitivity i put in ubuntu, my touchpad is constantly sensitive.. do i need drivers? i couldn't find any08:52
Nivkook:)08:53
mzinz_165ilba7r, on my desktop its fine with my house08:53
mzinz_165ilba7r, mouse*08:53
Nivkowith sudo chown niels *08:53
ilba7rmzinz_165, sorry do not know :)08:53
Nivkoi can give meself root access ?08:53
tonyyarussoCongratulations to me.  I just made a $2000 alarm clock.08:53
Nivkomuself*\08:53
NivkoMYSELF*08:53
Nivko:p08:53
mzinz_165ilba7r, ok when it refreshed it was working but said it couldn't get a bunch of them, possibly to network problems (that actually could be it, my wireless sucks sometimes). im refreshing again08:54
intelikeywhat is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/   ???08:54
intelikeydo i really really need those files ?08:55
ilba7rmzinz_165, ok to prevent any problems i suggest you hood up the ehternet when you download08:55
mzinz_165ilba7r, ok it worked that time, but still no libmotif3 in description / name08:55
kevixtonyyarusso: have you tried 'festival'?08:55
tonyyarussoIs there a GUI for scheduling tasks with cron?08:55
tonyyarussokevix: No.08:55
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ilba7rmzinz_165, can you paste the contents of this file in the pastebin for me /etc/apt/sources.list08:56
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thisplayertonyyarusso: yes..im looking for one myself...theres gnome-schedule but its not in the repos...08:56
kevixtonyyarusso: you can install it to make you computer speak stuff(like email or the time)08:56
mzinz_165ilba7r, yeah, hold08:56
tonyyarussokevix: Sounds interesting.08:56
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^Ocean^okay, Will the defualt video driver ubuntu support TV out dualdisplay for the NVIDIA Geforce2 cards,  or do i need to install the driver off the nvidia website ?08:57
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intelikeyanybody understands the .deb system  can i rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*    safely ?08:57
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intelikeyor will that break apt ?08:57
dooglusintelikey: you need at least some of those files08:58
rendihelp08:58
kevixintelikey: DONT do that!08:58
rendidpkg: xkeyboard-config: warning - conffile `etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc' is not a plain file or symlink (= `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc')08:58
rendidpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb (--unpack):08:58
dooglusthe ".prerm" and ".postrm" files are needed when you uninstall packages08:58
renditrying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml', which is also in package xlibs08:58
rendiErrors were encountered while processing:08:58
rendi /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb08:58
rendiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)08:58
rendican help me08:58
intelikeykevix lots of files are going to get rm'd  which do you sujest ?08:58
vbgunzDoes Ubuntu have a crash log? Ubuntu crashed so horribly on me when I tried to "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" at about 8PM today...08:58
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doogluskevix: it keeps the pre and post inst files too - is there any need for that?08:59
kevixintelikey: why would you delete files when you dont know what they are for?08:59
intelikeyspace08:59
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kevixdooglus: I know what they are all for, I'd never delete them. there are better alternatives.09:00
tonyyarussothisplayer: Looks like for simple things you could use gato.09:00
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kevixintelikey: if you what to delete files because of NEEDEd space, delete /usr/share/doc/09:00
thisplayertonyyarusso: i will check that out...09:00
dooglusintelikey: you know you can "sudo apt-get clean" to make a lot of space?09:00
intelikeyanything in /var should be remobable....  but there are permanant files stored there.... they should have been in lib09:00
dooglusintelikey: you're mixing /var and /tmp?09:00
vbgunzDoes Ubuntu have a crash log? Where is it?09:01
mzinz_165http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/730909:01
intelikeydooglus to make a lot of space you say?  lol   i did and got 200k free.09:01
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mzinz_165ilba7r, should i do mark all upgrades?09:02
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kevixintelikey: on my systtem, /var/lib/dpkg/info is 43 MB. if you cant spare that, you have bigger problems!!!!09:02
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ilba7rmzinz_165, you do not have multiverse in the regular repos. you only have it in the backports09:02
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mzinz_165ilba7r, when i go to package manager and click repos they are all clicked....?09:02
dooglusintelikey: oh, fair enough.  I guess you already cleared that stuff out09:02
rendihelooooooooooo09:02
intelikeykevix no some of the files have big problems  :)09:02
rendican hear me ????09:02
rendimean can see me ?09:03
ilba7r!tell mzinz_165 about easysource09:03
ilba7rmzinz_165, use easy source it will generate every thing you need09:03
mzinz_165ilba7r, k09:03
kevixintelikey: how big is your hard drive?09:03
thisplayertonyyarusso: the gato site also mentions the gcrontab09:03
tonyyarussothisplayer: Ah.09:03
rendihelllo09:04
intelikeykevix mmmm 610m  with duel boot windows and ubuntu  :)09:04
rendican give me command to complete remove xkeyboard-config09:04
NivkoI can give my account  root access by the command: sudo chown <account> *   ?09:04
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dooglusNivko: no.09:04
NivkoWhat then?09:04
dooglusNivko: what do you want to do really?09:04
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intelikeyNivko add them to group adm  or  admin  which ever you have09:04
Nivkook..09:05
dooglusNivko: you want to give them sudo access?09:05
rendiHELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO09:05
Nivkono09:05
Nivkoi want to give myself root access:p09:05
kevixintelikey: my /usr/share/doc is 248MB and /var/lib/dpkg/info is 41MB. but the 41MB is very vital to apt. you can delete docs with no effect.09:05
rendixlibs: Depends: xkeyboard-config but it is not going to be installed09:05
dooglusNivko: the only account with root access is root09:05
rendiE: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).09:05
dooglusNivko: you can set the root password if you like, but it's not recommended09:05
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rendiholyshit09:06
Nivkobut09:06
kevixintelikey: and as dooglus said, first do 'apt-get autoclean' or  'apt-get clean' first!09:06
intelikeykevix my usr/share/doc would use the whole partition if it was that big09:06
quad_I just installed Ubuntu, how do I make it so that im able to get firefox1.5 ie.09:06
Nivkoi want to do it that i can save files to /var/www09:06
mzinz_165ilba7r, do i want packages, sources, or both?09:06
tonyyarusso!tell quad_ about firefox1.509:06
rendiErrors were encountered while processing:09:06
xoredi just got my new DSL and iam gonna set up my ubuntu server as a router. As far as i know, i need something like a ppp0 driver and then some settings in the iptables ( which a know right now). Can someone help me with the driver ?09:06
intelikeykevix as i told dooglus that freed up 200k of space09:06
rendi /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb09:06
rendiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:06
rendiCAN HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE09:06
ilba7rmzinz_165, it is your say. for sources you need to compile them yourself09:07
Nivkodooglus: i want to do it that i can save files to /var/www09:07
ztreckno acceptable C compiler found in $PATH09:07
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intelikeyoh and i need to rm several kernel modules tooo09:07
mzinz_165ilba7r, == packages easy09:07
dooglusNivko: you should check which group owns /var/www and add yourself to that group09:07
ilba7r:)09:07
rendiintelikey can help me09:07
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Nivkoand how i can check what group owns that?09:07
Nivko(Im a noob in linux :p)09:07
rendimy xkeyboard-config suck off me09:08
dooglusNivko: "ls -ld /var/www"09:08
NivkoOk09:08
ztreckwhat do i need to dl if i get the error: no acceptable C compoler found in $PATH09:08
rendidooglus ?09:08
Nivkodrwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www09:08
NivkoRoot :p09:08
intelikeyrendi  sudo apt-get -f install09:08
kevixNivko: if you type 'id' you can see what groups you are in.09:08
rendiintelikey i have done woith hat09:08
revdevztreck: try sudo apt-get install build-essential09:08
rendigive me errorrrrr09:08
Nivko29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(niels)09:08
Nivkothat groups09:08
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quad_Which browser can I use, when the preinstalled firefox has been removed?09:09
renditrying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml', which is also in package xlibs09:09
rendiErrors were encountered while processing:09:09
rendi /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb09:09
rendiE: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)09:09
intelikeyrendi look above the final error message for a preceeding sujestion on the possable solution09:09
dooglusNivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"09:09
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dooglushrm09:09
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rendiintelikey so the solution ?09:09
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ilba7rmzinz_165, after you download the sources file. in a terminal type cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original09:10
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dooglusNivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"09:10
kevixrendi: that happens when you are install a package that was not designed to be installed on your system.09:10
mzinz_165ilba7r, well its just text so could i just paste it and overwrite?09:10
dooglusNivko: (where 'nivko' is your username)09:11
Nivkoniels*09:11
Nivko:p09:11
ilba7rmzinz_165, than cp the file you downloaded to /etc/apt/ and name it sources.list09:11
Nivkoye:p09:11
intelikeysudo mv /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml .     randi  and try again09:11
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rendikevix what command to complete that sucks package09:11
rendii just run apt-get upgrade09:11
ilba7rmzinz_165, it is always good idea to have a backup09:11
rendiand eerrorrr09:11
NivkoBut,09:11
Nivkodrwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www09:11
dooglusNivko: I see.09:11
Nivkoso www-data has no access there?09:11
dooglusNivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"09:11
liabletard..09:11
dooglusNivko: we can give it access after09:11
mzinz_165ilba7r, oh, so rename the orig, then i can paste :)09:11
Nivkoi have added me09:11
ilba7rmzinz_165, yap09:12
kevixdpkg --force-overwrite /path/to/file.deb09:12
dooglusNivko: so then: "sudo chgrp www-data /var/www; sudo chmod g+w /var/www; ls -ld /var/www"09:12
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tonyyarussoAll right, something is hinting that it's time to get some sleep.  Bye all.09:12
rendihillo09:12
Nivkook09:12
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rendihello09:12
rendihallo09:12
Nivkomany commadns :p09:12
dooglusNivko: it's a single command line - paste it all in one go09:13
Nivkodrwxrwxr-x  4 root www-data 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www09:13
Nivkooh09:13
dooglusNivko: looking good09:13
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NivkoThanks :)09:13
ztreckNow i get this error: You don't seem to have the curses headers installed09:13
dooglusNivko: you'll have to log out and in again to really join the group, but then you'll be able to write that directory09:13
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Nivkook09:13
dooglusNivko: do you have stuff in /var/www already?09:13
kevixztreck: did you 'apt-get install build-essential'09:13
ztreckkevix: yes09:14
Nivkodooglus: I have 15 minutes ago apache and php installed09:14
Nivkohehe09:14
dooglusNivko: so that's a no then?09:14
rendi!_!09:14
uboturendi: Did you get hit by a windmill?09:14
Nivkoye09:14
Nivkonow i gonna test of php works09:14
Nivko(Sorry for bad english)09:14
rendiso CAN'T ANYONE HELP ME09:14
mzinz_165ilba7r, ok, backed up, and pasted over.09:14
thisplayertonyyarusso: dont bother trying either...they're waste of space...09:14
dooglus15 minutes is long enough to write a blog system from scratch if you believe the ruby on rails movie :)09:14
kevixyou may need libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses09:14
Nivkowhehe09:15
ilba7rmzinz_165, ok now close and open synaptic and reload again09:15
Nivkoi'm a php scripter and mIRC :)09:15
kevixztreck: you may need libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses09:15
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mzinz_165ilba7r, thanks for all of this09:15
dooglusmIRC?  ugh09:15
mzinz_165ilba7r, im actually having a lot of fun haha09:15
Nivkoon windows :p09:15
ilba7rmzinz_165, yw:)09:15
dooglusmIRC's scripting language is possibly the most hideous of any programming language I've ever seen.09:16
Nivkoah09:16
Nivkophp isn't working09:16
ilba7rrendi, ask your question if someone know the answer he will answer you09:16
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Nivkoi have installed the php4 module for apache 409:16
revdevnivko what kind of error message are you getting09:16
Nivkoapache 2:p09:16
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dooglusI don't do PHP, sorry.09:16
rendiTHANKS09:16
Nivkonothing if i request test.php i get a download msg :p09:16
goodi_can anyone tell me where are the devices stored that are checked e.g. by fsck.ext3 while booting?09:17
ilba7rrendi, and no caps it is interpretted as shouting.09:17
kevixgoodi_: /etc/fstab09:17
goodi_Nivko, apache is the problem. did you add the handle for .php? did you restart apache?09:17
mzinz_165ilba7r, i can't believe we had to go through all of that work though.. how do newbies figure that stuff out?09:17
mzinz_165ilba7r, maybe people like you09:17
Nivkogoodi_: i dont know, im not in the config file's.09:17
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goodi_kevix, hmhm - I'm using lvm09:17
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ilba7rmzinz_165, you should have read the repos link. :)09:17
goodi_Nivko, should be one of the above (just entered the channel - it's a guess)09:18
mzinz_165ilba7r, damn.. when i get those !tells i dont read them all the time, more just scan real fast and do what it says09:18
kevixgoodi_: ok. I spoke to soon! no nothing about Lvm and other funness!09:18
mzinz_165ilba7r, but now i know09:18
ilba7rmzinz_165, in a month ago i was a newbie like you. Though i hate the termonology i am a user not newbie09:18
Nivkogoodi_: can i paste on pastebin the config and can you add it plz?09:18
goodi_goodi_, :-)09:18
mzinz_165ilba7r, well you picked it up quick i guess09:18
revdevnivko: here's a guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP09:18
mzinz_165!tell mzinz_165 about Firefox1.509:18
goodi_Nivko, the hole httpd.conf? nah - thanks - php5 php4? module? fcgi?09:18
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Nivkoi have installed apache2-php4 module09:19
goodi_Nivko, did you RESTART the apache?09:19
Nivkouhm no09:19
kevixilba7r: being a newbie is not a bad thing, everyone is one once.09:19
goodi_Nivko, do it:P09:19
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Nivkowhat was the command?:p09:19
revdevsudo apache2ctl -k restart09:20
goodi_sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart09:20
ilba7rkevix, but frankly i am a user. :) anyway do not want to start a war its a personal definition09:20
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maurycyhey. anyone could recommend wireless pcmcia card that works smoothly with ubuntu linux?09:20
mzinz_165ilba7r, ok, i got motif installed, it gave me the same error but i think it might be because i had opera open when i finished installing, i probably need a restart or something.  either way im happy!09:20
kestaswo1kmaurycy: which protocol? 802.11b, a, g, i?09:21
Nivkonope09:21
Nivkoisnt working09:21
Nivkoisnt*09:21
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kevixilba7r: there are too many wars. virtual or otherwise. help folks. and ask question.09:21
Nivkowhat i must do now? add a line in httpd.conf?09:21
ilba7rmzinz_165, :) follow ubotu link about opera i think you will need to install another plugin in too for java09:21
kestaswo1kI use a minitar and that works find for 802.11b09:21
dooglusmaurycy: I've never found a single pcmcia device that works smoothly with any linux distro09:21
kestaswo1kneeds a bit of messing around09:21
kestaswo1kdooglus: minitar did for me, and it's the only pcmcia device I've ever used with it09:22
kestaswo1kdooglus: you must have been very unlucky09:22
goodi_Nivko,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP looks kinda usefull :)09:22
ilba7rkevix, agree09:22
mzinz_165ilba7r, hehe09:22
maurycykestaswo1k: b and g, the best09:22
doogluskestaswo1k: maybe.  I only tried 3 or 4 devices.  I kind of gave up after that.09:22
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doogluskestaswo1k: it's a shame, 'cos wireless would be nice.  and so would being able to use my external disk, but never mind.09:23
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goodi_dooglus, did you ever compiled the kernel for your pcmcia device?:)09:23
cilkayWhat is the KDE desktop configuration utility called in KDE 3.5 in dapper?09:24
cilkayThe one that you use to change KDE themes and such...09:24
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maurycydooglus: hm. device with rj45 port that would provide the link from a wireless network would be nice too?09:24
Xophiliusfriends where do i ask questions about ShipIt?09:24
goodi_maurycy, a device to slap ppl over the internet, too :)09:25
kestaswo1klol09:26
Xophilius--|blurps|--09:26
kestaswo1kwhoever invents that will be a millionaire09:26
goodi_kestaswo1k, yeap!:)09:26
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maurycymhm :)09:26
Xophiliusanyone knows anything about the ShipIt free CD shipment of ubuntu?09:26
maurycykestaswo1k: so any hints?09:26
kestaswo1kmaurycy: I said; Minitar09:27
Nivkosudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start09:27
kestaswo1kor Minitaur, something like that09:27
kestaswo1kit uses the rtxxxx chipset09:27
Nivkoif i type that is then starting PHP and MySQL too?09:27
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kestaswo1kanyhow, time to go home :)09:27
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maurycykestaswo1k: oh, sorry. missed it. any experiences with linksys wpc11?09:27
Nivkosudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start09:27
Nivkoif i type that is then starting PHP and MySQL too?09:27
goodi_Nivko, php yes, mysql no09:27
Nivkoand mysql?09:28
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Nivkohow i start mysql?09:28
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goodi_Nivko, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart09:28
goodi_or start09:28
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goodi_stop09:28
goodi_..09:28
goodi_Nivko, there is almost always a script in /etc/init.d/ to start/stop/restart services09:29
Nivkook09:30
Nivkohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731009:30
Nivkoas i save that as .sh is it then works?09:30
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goodi_Nivko, you could just try it to find it out:)09:30
Xophiliusok looks friends, I ordered only 5 CDs throught ShipIt, but Ubuntu has sent 45 CDs to the shipping company to be shipped to me09:31
Xophiliusijust don't get it09:31
liablerunge: then just fucking install debian, we will *not* support you going from ubuntu to debian.09:31
Xophiliuslol09:31
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liablesorry09:31
xeruxWhere are the C header files ? ;/09:31
Nivkogoodi_09:32
Nivkolook pm09:32
XophiliusYour previous requests09:32
goodi_Nivko, *hmpf* please use a paste service for such stuff :) and do it public09:32
Xophilius    * 5 CDs requested in 2006-01-16. 45 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-01-18. Please note orders usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.09:32
goodi_Nivko, did you install mysql with apt-get or did you compiled it?09:32
Nivkoapt-get09:32
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goodi_Xophilius, can you order 5 bar of golds for me?:)09:33
goodi_bars of gold...09:33
Xophiliuslol09:33
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Xophiliuswell don't know when i order 5 things for free i get 4509:34
intelikeywell i have 50m free now that should be plenty09:34
Xophiliuswhat a luck09:34
^Ocean^dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?09:34
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goodi_Nivko, did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or without sudo?09:34
Xophiliusbut the problem is the customs here09:34
intelikey!nvidia09:34
ubotusomebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=5736809:34
Xophiliussince the shipment is big, they may charge me09:34
Nivkowith sudo09:35
WereCatHi there! I just tried Ubuntu for the first time yesterday and tried to install MPlayer, but couldn't find it in any repositories...Is it even available as a precompiled binary or do I have to compile it myself?09:35
jariep1_can somebody help me out with removing the password on XAMPP?09:36
Nivkohhm, i remove all webserver shit09:36
Nivkoand begin over new09:36
goodi_Nivko, can you paste the output of 'ps aux | grep mysql' and 'ls -al /var/run/mysqld' to the paste service?09:36
Xophiliusok no official ubuntu guy here?09:36
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Xophilius:)09:36
Nivkook09:36
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Nivkogoodi_09:36
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Nivkoi do it in pm09:36
Nivkoits a few line's09:36
Nivko209:36
goodi_*sick09:36
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goodi_then only I can read it09:37
goodi_and I'm - im sad about this - not the guy with knowlege over everythink09:37
goodi_:)09:37
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goodi_and the second command outputs?09:37
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Nivko-234.fastres.net)09:37
Nivko[09:36:55]  <Nivko> goodi_09:37
Nivkooeps09:37
Nivkogrep mysql' with '?09:37
goodi_Nivko, ls -al /var/run/mysqld/09:38
goodi_witout '09:38
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voluntariohola!!!!09:38
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Nivkodone09:38
dooglusWereCat: it's in the multiverse repository, called "mplayer-386"09:38
dooglus!info mplayer-38609:38
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ubotumplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB09:38
goodi_Nivko, k, check syslog for mysql (the last entries) maybe there is some more info09:38
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Nivkowhere i can finf the log?09:39
Nivkofind*09:39
dooglus/var/log/09:39
goodi_Nivko, the reason to use a paste-service instead of pming is that maybe someone other can help too:) your chances increase dramaticly :)09:39
goodi_Nivko, /var/log/syslog09:39
goodi_Nivko, almost everythink is loged to /var/log :-)09:39
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Nivkohttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731109:40
Nivkowtf09:41
Nivkohow i go out vi09:41
goodi_Nivko, :q!09:41
Nivkoq?09:41
goodi_nivo ;09:41
goodi_Nivko, :09:41
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goodi_Nivko, first you enter : then q then !09:41
goodi_Nivko, first you enter : then q then !09:42
Nivko..09:42
Nivkodont work09:42
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topyliESC first to enter command mode09:42
Nivkooh ye thanks :)09:42
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visik7hi09:43
Nivkogoodi_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731109:43
Xophiliusanyone there for help?09:43
visik7I can't see this stream rtsp://a2047.v1413b.c1413.g.vq.akamaistream.net:80/5/2047/1413/2_h264_110/1a1a1ae656c632970267e04ebd3196c428970e7ce857b81c4aab1677e445aedc3fae1b4a7bafe013/mw_2006_3_110.mov09:43
topyli!anyone09:43
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:43
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Nivko!anyone09:44
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>09:44
Nivkolol09:44
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Xophilius!everyone09:44
ubotuWish i knew, Xophilius09:44
goodi_Nivko, hmhm, try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start again - same result?09:44
Xophiliushmmm...09:44
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Nivkojep09:45
^Ocean^dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?09:45
Nivkosame09:45
Nivkoi delete the whole webserver09:45
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goodi_Nivko, aehm - how do you delete it?09:45
goodi_Nivko, how did you delete it?09:45
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Nivkosynaptic?09:45
grodiusHi, i'm trying to fix a windows HD by running a bootdisk of linux, can someone show me a way to access my harddrive from my live linux boot?09:46
Nivkodeleting..09:46
Dark_Oppressori just installed ubuntu and it never had me set up a root password, how do i set one?09:46
goodi_Nivko, did you just do rm?09:46
NivkoDark_Oppressor: http://wiki.ubuntu.com09:46
intelikeyi think i'll also rm /etc/alternatives09:46
ilba7rgrodius, did you mount it09:46
Nivkogoodi_: NO, Syntaptic09:47
NivkoSynaptic09:47
grodiusilba7r neg, how do i do that? I have forgotten alot09:47
fekmoin09:47
goodi_Nivko, ah, oki hmhm try to remove mysql too then an reinstall ist - maybe somethink fucked it up09:47
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intelikeyi never did like all that symlink bounce anyway09:47
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ilba7rgrodius, you could have done that when you ran the livecd09:47
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visik7http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/mw2006/m_mw_2006_650_ref.mov09:48
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grodiusilba7r now im in x though, is there something i can do at this point09:49
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Dark_OppressorNivko: thanks09:49
ilba7rgrodius, you know the hard disk device name. You can try pmount /dev/hd<a b c> depending on your device name. The problem is if it is ntfs you can not securely write to it09:50
grodiusI pretty much want to just format the disk09:50
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ilba7rsorry grodius am not expert in that but you can man fdisk09:52
nboundgrodius, us Gparted09:52
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nbounduse*09:52
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ilba7rnbound, it is not installed by default on the livecd09:53
nboundilba7r, ohhh, livecd=evil :P09:53
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topyligrodius: unmount (if mounted) and format. how do you want to format it? i'm not sure if you can format it as ntfs in linux09:54
grodiustopyli really? i tohguht you could09:54
ilba7rgrodius, if you want ot format in ntfs why not use window cd?09:54
topyligrodius: well, the mkfs man page doesn't mention ntfs09:55
grodiusilba7r I believe there is a virus that is storing itself in multiple instances of "unknown disks"09:55
grodiusand the windows disk wont let me delete the partitions09:55
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grodiusthat are unknown disks09:56
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grodiusbut there are no storage devices besides the HD on my comp09:56
topyligrodius: you can edit the partitions with linux fdisk of course. you just can't create a new ntfs filesystem09:56
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paraI was reading on the forums and arnieboy says that to get my webcam working i need to set a root password so i can compile the modules, but I read that setting a root password is bad for security09:58
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thisplayer~su09:58
Steilpara: don't listen to him, Well his advice and his how-to guides MAY work, there are better ways to go about doing things09:58
thisplayer!su09:58
topylipara: why woudn't you be able to compile modules using sudo?09:58
ubotuWish i knew, thisplayer09:58
ilba7rpara you can use sudo before the command will give you root previlages09:59
intelikeyanybody know what /etc/ld.so.cache is or why it's there ?09:59
thisplayer!root09:59
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.09:59
parabut arnieboy says that there are some things you can't do with sudo and that i need root09:59
ilba7rpara i never met a situation like that10:00
topylipara: i haven't been root in years on my systems10:00
hubbadubme neither10:00
ilba7rpara go to this link to see the smart way to build packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources10:00
thisplayerpara, u can enable then disable the root account when you are finished....read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo10:01
intelikeypara if you "want"  to set a root password, it's your system.  if you don't want to set one, it's still your system.   that is one of the great things about linux.10:01
topylipara: not only on ubuntu. i always setup sudo first thing on any system10:01
parahttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=7528410:01
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topyliphos-phoros: how smart10:02
phos-phorosI'm kidding10:02
intelikeyyou set it up the way you like and the guys in here scold you for it  :)10:02
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topyliphos-phoros: i didn't seriously call it smart either :)10:02
intelikeyheck i even irs as root          maybe....10:02
intelikeys/irs/irc/ ^10:03
ilba7rpara, every person has his own way to manage stuff. If you want to enable root yo can do so and disable it. If you fear threats you can disconnect from the net while doing that10:03
intelikeyor then again,  maybe not....10:03
ilba7rbut basically it is not ubuntu way :)10:04
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Nivko|Clonewhat was the command line for starting MySQL?10:04
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Steilpara: Try the how-to without setting the root password and I promise everything will work just fine :)10:04
SteilYou don't even use root for anything there10:04
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paraWhat do you guys think about what he says? Someone argued about it and he explained why it's the only way to do it...what do you guys think?10:05
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topylipara: he just doesn't know how to do it right10:05
rungeliable ?10:05
intelikeyi fear getting rooted more from my user account and a three letter password and they use sudo.....  far more than a 16 char root password.10:05
ilba7rpara we do not bash pepole here10:05
ilba7revery one is free . It is free software10:05
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leboskanhello10:06
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leboskanabsolute newbie requiring help10:06
parailba7r: I'm not trying to bash him, I'm just asking if hes right or not10:06
liablerunge: sorry, missfire in wrong window.10:06
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intelikeyso anybody know what '/etc/ld.so.cache' is or why it's there ?10:07
leboskan:( hello?10:07
ilba7rpara, you can do the same process in different ways. His way is not recommended by ubuntu10:07
ptlopara in ubuntu, 99% of the time when someone says "you need to do this as root" means "run this  using sudo"10:07
topylipara: let's put it this way. if he doesn't get the environment variables right with sudo but does for root, then he just hasn't setup his environment right before compiling10:07
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topylipara: no real reason there10:07
depl0yhi10:07
Nivkowhat was the command line for starting MySQL?10:07
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depl0yIs there anyone in here, that could help me get my broadcom wireless network adapter to work with the new Ubuntu 6.0410:08
Steildepl0y: whats the problem?10:08
Nivkowhat was the command line for starting MySQL?..10:08
depl0ywell , ubuntu detected my hardware ok, but my device cannot be activated :(10:08
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Steildepl0y: to use the included bcm43xx driver you need to extract the firmware from a windows driver. Otherwise you can use ndiswrapper and a windows driver10:08
paraptlo: he said to use sudo passwd and set the root password. someone argued and I wasn't sure who was right10:08
ilba7rleboskan, ask your question10:08
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gavcosnivko, /etc/init.d/mysql start10:09
topylipara: he doesn't even use root in his howto10:09
depl0ySteil : I tried that on Ubuntu 5.1 and that worked, but 6.04 supplies its own drivers for it.10:09
Steildepl0y: the ndiswrapper or the bcm43xx?10:09
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leboskan:blush: i just installed breezy in my other computer, i had hoary beore and it booted right into GNOME, and this one boots with no GUI, how do i run gnome?10:09
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leboskan:flame:10:09
depl0ySteil: thebcm43xx10:09
depl0ythe bcm43xx10:10
depl0yleboskan: startx ?10:10
leboskanlemme try10:10
skulltulaleboskan, i think something went awry with the installation.10:10
goodi_what's the name of the metapackage for the 'kernel-image'?10:10
leboskanbrb10:10
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ilba7rleboskan, i agree with skulltula10:10
depl0yor use "sudo rcconf" and enable the "gdm" thingy10:10
Steildepl0y: so you used to use ndiswrapper? or the bcm?10:11
leboskanstartx = command not found10:11
leboskanso the instalation fucked up?10:11
depl0yon my previous install I used the ndiswrapper, on the current it detected my hardware it self and it used : bcm43xx driver 0.0.110:11
Steilokay10:11
ilba7rgoodi_, linux-image-<your platform>10:11
ilba7rleboskan, did you make a server install10:12
leboskannope, regular10:12
goodi_ilba7r, thanks:)10:12
ilba7rgoodi_, yw:)10:12
paraalright i wasnt sure10:12
parathanks10:13
NivkoI cant start mysql :( Socket aleary in usage10:13
goodi_ilba7r, installed the updated kerneles, while /boot wasn't mounted - kinda annoying now :)10:13
Nivkoi try later10:13
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ilba7rleboskan, and it is fresh install. try reinstalling it10:13
goodi_updated kernel10:13
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Steildepl0y: you need to have firmware for the card installed to use the bcm43xx. I've had troubles with it so I'll recommend you still use ndiswrapper: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118926 Instructions are there in my post10:13
SteilYou just have to rmmod the bcm43xx related modules, ndiswrapper, and reinsert ndiswrapper10:14
Steiland then you'll be back up10:14
leboskanilba7r its the .iso that u download from the main ubuntu page... it SHOULD boot directly to a GUI and not to a console, rite?10:14
depl0yok, lemme look at it! Thanks!10:14
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ilba7rleboskan, right10:14
ilba7rgoodi_, good luck do not knwo how you will fix that10:14
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leboskanis there anything to the installation more than next next next and putting usernames? i had almost 0 choices10:15
goodi_ilba7r, will be fun:)10:15
leboskanmaybe theres something there that im not seeing10:15
skulltulai had to reinstall ubuntu once, sometimes it just glitches.10:15
mihai_is here anyone who puts music on the ipod with ubuntu?10:15
mihai_because I think this is my 5th time a break it on ubuntu10:15
leboskanokay, ill try again10:15
leboskanthx guys10:15
skulltulathere's probably a way to fix it without a full reinstall... but it would probably take less time than finding the problem to reinstall.10:15
ilba7rleboskan, it helps when you burn the cd to burn it on low speed10:15
skulltulaleboskan, good luck.10:15
ilba7r4x max10:15
leboskanskulltula thx a lotza10:16
skulltulai always burn my CDs at a high speed. sometimes i have to pay for that :P10:16
mihai_or is here anyone who can help me convert a folder full of m4a aac files to mp3. I have faad but is does not accept faad * . It stops after the first file10:16
ilba7rskulltula, i am talking about ubuntu iso cd only10:17
depl0ysteil: ok , my wireless adapter is gone atm, so now I need to reinstall it with those win drivers ?10:17
topyliilba7r: true, i made a few coasters from the breezy iso at first. burning at 4x helped10:17
skulltulailba7r i installed that at the fastest speed my writer could go. LoL10:17
Steildepl0y: did you do a clean install of 6.04, or just upgrade 5.10?10:17
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B1zzi just added a wireless card to my ubuntu system installed native drivers for it and all but the card does not like WEP when i try to get an ip it acts like its working but no succes i take wep off right away i get an IP any ideas?10:17
depl0yclean install10:17
depl0y(upgrades always cause me trouble)10:18
ilba7rskulltula, as you said your way sometimes it works sometimes it does not :)10:18
topylidepl0y: yes you need to install the driver10:18
Steildepl0y: then just install the windows drivers for ndiswrapper and you're good to go10:18
hubbadubmihai have you tried soundkonverter?10:18
depl0yok, I'll just do it the way I did it on 5.10 :D. Thanks  a lot. Too bad this driver doesn't work yet. I was all happy when I saw that the setup detected my wlan :D10:19
Steildepl0y: You can also just try the bcm43xx drivers if you'd like. I've heard more failures than successes though.10:19
mihai_hubbadub, no10:19
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mzinz_165when I open firefox it opens the old version, however if i navigate to /usr/bin/firefox it opens 1.5. how do i change my symbolic link?10:19
ilba7rB1zz try networkmanager10:19
jc_blu1hi10:19
mihai_hubbadub, because I have ubuntu, not kubuntu. if it's good I'l install it now10:19
depl0ymeh, I am pretty new to linux, so that probably wont work ;)10:20
topylimihai_: soundcorverter will just try and use faad, so it won't help. or is soundkonverter different?10:20
B1zzi did try that and it looks for ip for like a min and a half but no ip :(10:20
jc_blu1sd10:20
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mihai_topyli, faad works. just I don't know how to convert the whole folder. with faad * it converts only one file10:20
skulltulaanyone have the free time to help me get the foward/back buttons on my mouse fully working?10:20
hubbadubmihai it converted protected aac from the itunes store for me10:20
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mihai_I want to try to restore my ipod with gnupod10:21
mihai_but most of the files are aac10:21
topylimihai_: ok, then soundconverter should work for that10:21
depl0ybut if it isnt too hard I am willing to try :), is there some help to follow on that?10:21
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mihai_topyli, thanks10:21
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mihai_topyli, I think I've tryed some time ago. and then it didn't work10:22
skulltulai have a logitech 510 mouse, and i followed the howto in the forum to set it up... but the foward / back buttons still only work in firefox.10:23
mihai_anyone here has an ipod?10:23
mzinz_165HELP: When I try to make a symbolic link: sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox it just says file exists.  What am i doing wrong?10:23
cafuegomihai_: I do10:23
topylimihai_: or just use a for loop in bash10:23
ilba7rmzinz_165, it means there is a file with this name10:23
mihai_cafuego, and how do you sync it with ubuntu?10:23
mzinz_165ilba7r, what do i do!!!10:23
mzinz_165ilba7r, haha10:23
ilba7rmzinz_165, try ln -sf10:23
mihai_topyli, my bash knowledge is 010:23
skulltulai tried using xbindkeys, but it didn't seem to work.10:23
skulltulaany ideas?10:23
cafuegomihai_: gtkpod10:23
ilba7rmzinz_165, this will force to rewrite the file10:24
mihai_cafuego, for me is does not work right now10:24
mihai_cafuego, I only curupted the ipod about 5 times  now on ubuntu. then I go to the pc and restore it, and so on10:24
mzinz_165no error, still 1.0.7, odd10:24
mzinz_165when i /usr/bin/firefox it opens 1.510:24
mihai_cafuego, and you have a big one? because I only have a shuffle so I need 128kbps files all the time10:25
ilba7rmzinz_165, what opens 1.0.7 for you10:25
mzinz_165ilba7r, if i type firefox in term without path, or click links10:25
topylimihai_: so is mine, so i always google for suitable oneliners :)10:25
ilba7rmzinz_165, there is another symbolic link mozilla-firefox some programs use it10:25
cafuegomihai_: I have a 30GB video pod10:25
mihai_cafuego, lucky you10:25
katie_i try and open a file with okle and it says "seems there is no disc in your dvd drive" er the whole point of "open file"10:25
cafuegonot so much lucky as poor now ;-)10:26
mihai_and you put the files as you find them or convert them into something else?10:26
hubbadubmy shuffle works great with gtkpod, but i do miss the auto compression to 128k that itunes does10:26
mihai_hubbadub, this is my problem too. just that I am not yet able so use gtkpod because I must convert the backup of most aac files to mp310:26
intelikeywell if i haven't completely hosed the system now,  i think i have this thing where i can live with it....10:27
mzinz_165ilba7r, solution? :/10:27
intelikeytesting....  if i'm not back in 5 you'll know i borked it good....10:27
cafuegomihai_: I plonk 'em on as 192Kbit MP3s or 500Kbit MP4s.10:27
ilba7rmzinz_165, are you sure you do not have two symbolic links in /usr/bin10:27
ilba7rfor firefox10:27
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mzinz_165ilba7r, no.10:27
katie_anyone/10:27
mihai_cafuego, I see. Anyway in your case is preatty hard to fill it with music. But why don't you buy a mac?10:28
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ilba7rok type this ls -l /usr/bin/firefox10:28
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mzinz_165ilba7r, im in /usr/bin/, how do i check10:28
hubbadubcuz macs are OVERPRICED10:28
cafuegomihai_: WHo says I don't have a mac?10:28
ilba7rwill tell you what the file is linked too10:28
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cafuegomihai_: I have at least  Macs in the house10:28
cafuego910:28
Englaso my hoary system broke, won't auto-login and fails10:28
haihello!10:28
mihai_cafuego, and if you have a mac why do you sync the ipod with ubuntu?10:29
EnglaI did the mistake of shutting down with four python packages broken10:29
Englais this related?10:29
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cafuegomihai_: Coz the mac runs Ubuntu?10:29
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Engla(dumb question, but I want to know.) This is the first restart after a large batch of upgrades10:29
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mihai_cafuego, why not mac os x?10:29
mzinz_165ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-18 01:24 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox10:29
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cafuegomihai_: too slow10:29
ilba7rthe link is correct10:29
cafuegomihai_: and OSX can't run openoffice10:29
mihai_cafuego, I want to buy a mac mini or ibook just for mac os x and itunes10:30
skulltulabecause Ubuntu is king.!10:30
ilba7rok type /opt/firefox/firefox and see which ver of firefox it will run10:30
mihai_skulltula, ;) it's king. but has no itunes10:30
mzinz_165ilba7r, so the command ls, when not being used to describe the contents of a dir, will give info on apps?10:30
cafuegomihai_: Ubuntu runs nicer than OSX on both of those machines. (I have one of each)10:30
hubbadububuntu is queen maybe, but KUBUNTU is the king :D10:30
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topylimzinz_165: i bet you have a mozilla-firefox too, linked to /usr/lib/firefox10:30
olicathi all. does anyone know how i can tell wget to save its files in a certain location?10:30
Englacafuego: what kind of machines (G3/G4 etc?)10:30
mihai_cafuego, I am sure that ubuntu is faster10:30
mzinz_165topyli, :x10:30
mihai_cafuego, but I am very courious in this domain10:31
Merithi10:31
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mihai_cafuego, I guess mac os x has it's advantages10:31
skulltulamihai_, i'm pretty sure you can get OSX on an x86. i dunno if it's an appropriate topic here, but you might want to google it.10:31
mzinz_165ilba7r, the new one runs10:31
depl0ywhere can I get more themes for ubuntu10:31
cafuegomihai_: The only reason to run OSX would be Spotlight. That's a bit faster and more stable than beagle.10:31
ilba7rok10:31
mihai_cafuego, anyway I will not get near windows again10:31
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ilba7rls -l /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox10:31
ilba7rsee where the link is10:32
Englacafuego: beagle is slower? Spotlight is slow as ass10:32
skulltuladeploy, try http://gnome-look.org10:32
topylimihai_: yes you will. some people still have it :)10:32
depl0ythanks10:32
mihai_skulltula, I found a guide for this. but you need dvd and I don;t have that. and there are no drivers10:32
mzinz_165ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2006-01-17 22:27 /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox10:32
mzinz_165ilba7r, !!!10:32
topylimzinz_165: right10:32
ilba7rmzinz_165, if you want to learn about the ls command type man ls. It is like dir but with more capab10:32
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mzinz_165topyli, called it10:32
deFryskdepl0y, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras10:32
skulltulamihai_, aw well. macs are great computers anyway :] 10:32
ilba7rmzinz_165, than change the link10:32
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depl0ythanks deFrysk10:33
mihai_cafuego, also I don;t know if I will be able to set up a wireless network card with ndiswrapper. I don;t really thrust that tool. don;t know exactly why10:33
mzinz_165ilba7r, so to do that i do...: ln -l /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/bin/firefox?10:33
mihai_skulltula, macs are great10:33
ilba7rmzinz_165, all that matter that you know the prob. and if you scroll up a little you find i called it first ;)10:33
hubbadubquick Q guys, can i just drag and drop fonts from a windows install to ubuntu?10:33
mihai_topyli, hate win xp . it just does everything wrong10:33
mzinz_165ilba7r, hahaha10:33
ilba7rmzinz_165, no ln -sf <target> <link name>10:34
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mihai_cafuego, tryed to install more ram on the mac systems?10:34
topylimzinz_165: delete the mozilla-firefox link, then "ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox"10:34
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cafuegomihai_: No, it's already maxed out.10:34
mzinz_165ilba7r, k10:34
mzinz_165topyli, thanks.  im so new to the file structure all this is confusing still10:35
ilba7rtopyli, if you use ln -sf it will overwrite. it will force it10:35
EnglaI need help installing a package that won't install: python2.410:35
mihai_cafuego, this is a bad thing :( if it's not fast enough means they make a mistake10:35
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topyliilba7r: yeah true, one command less10:35
melder    10:36
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cafuegomihai_: Maybe, still it's a nice machine. It all depends on what you're used to.10:36
tristanHello10:36
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mzinz_165ilba7r, i did ln -sf /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox10:36
mihai_cafuego, just web development10:36
cafuegomihai_: a terminal and $EDITOR10:36
mihai_cafuego, and ipod sync ;)10:36
tristanIs there anyay to merge .wmv files or .rmvb files with Ubuntu?10:36
Nameeatermorphix: and we care.. why?10:36
ilba7rmzinz_165, ok now try firefox in a terminal10:36
mzinz_165ilba7r, 1.0.7 Lol... omg10:37
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morphixdunno.10:37
Engla"Error when processing : /var/path to python2.4.deb" (translated from sv)10:37
cafuegotristan: I'm sure libgd2 has support for wmf...10:37
mzinz_165ilba7r, let me verify links10:37
ilba7rmzinz_165, are you sure you do not have a link in our home directory10:37
morphixis there a way to install base ubuntu.. and then build it slowly from there?10:37
mzinz_165ilba7r, im not sure of anything10:37
morphixso it isnt all full of crap10:37
skulltulaanyone know where i can get help working with xbindkeys?10:37
ilba7rtry which firefox10:37
Nameeaterthere may be an ubuntu lite project, but Im not sure10:38
mzinz_165ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-18 01:24 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox10:38
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morphixi had so many problems with ubuntu10:38
cafuegomorphix: yes, it's called the 'server' installation.10:38
morphixbut i like ubuntu :(10:38
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mihai_morphix, server install?10:38
morphixi have server 'base' install on my server pc.. i might try installing that then install openbox, etc from there10:39
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mzinz_165/usr/local/bin/firefox10:39
cafuegomorphix: Maybe try xubuntu-desktop (Gives you xfce4)10:39
kevorHello, in evolution, every time i click a link, evolution scrolls the mail to the end, right at the moment i click10:39
ilba7rmzinz_165, that is your problem10:39
mzinz_165ilba7r, !10:39
intelikeywell i broke it real good.... no console screen....  i think it's headless10:39
morphixis that a different distro? or just an apt-get download?10:39
mzinz_165ilba7r, so i tell that link to point to /usr/bin/firefox?10:39
ilba7rmzinz_165, try ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox. I bet it links to the old firefox10:39
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mzinz_165ilba7r, yes10:40
mzinz_165ilba7r, it does10:40
ilba7rmzinz_165, no you can safely delete it if it is symbolic link10:40
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topylimorphix: you just have to make sure you install enough of X to run a desktop comfortably. perhaps x-window-system or some other metapackage10:40
mzinz_165ilba7r, whats an easy way to tell if something is a link or the actual executable? is it the color?10:40
intelikeycolour is one way.10:41
morphixok10:41
ilba7rmzinz_165, if you type ls -l and it point to some other file > then it is a symbolic10:41
morphixi might try it10:41
intelikeyuse ls -l  and links will have the -> real.file  appended10:41
mzinz_165ilba7r, so the first listing is the link itself and the second is what it points at?10:41
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ilba7ryap10:41
^Ocean^dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?10:42
ilba7r!tell mzinz_165 about cli10:42
hubbadubwhoa the font HOWTO on the forums kicks all kinds of ass10:42
intelikeyyes and path is relative to the link    so if it says   ../file   it is  path/to/link nimus one dir.10:42
hubbadubREAL easy10:43
topyli^Ocean^: for hardware acceleration, you need the evil driver from nvidia10:43
^Ocean^topyli: and probably the same for Twinview right ?10:43
mzinz_165ilba7r, so can i delete /usr/local/bin/firefox and re-create ln -s /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox10:44
topyli^Ocean^: i guess, dunno, how would i know? :)10:44
intelikeyhmmm i wonder if i can fix this hosed box now.10:44
topyli^Ocean^: never had an nvidia card10:44
ilba7rmzinz_165, you can just delete it no other links needed10:44
^Ocean^toplyi: ahh figured u may have lol10:44
mzinz_165i did rm /usr/local/bin/firefox10:44
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ilba7rmzinz_165, ok type firefox in a terminal all will be well10:45
upayavir1I ran a hoary->breezy upgrade yesterday. All seems to have worked fine, except screen doesn't wake after hibernating. Ironically I can get in via SSH (even over GPRS via my phone). Screen goes into a strange sort of 'screensaver'10:45
HClis there a package for firefox 1.5 for ubuntu?10:45
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depl0ydamn, ok, my ubuntu just became VERY unstable after installing those extra themes :S10:45
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depl0yI have to IRC from a win machine :S10:45
mzinz_165ilba7r, lol, i type firefox: /usr/local/bin/firefox: no such file or dir10:45
topyli^Ocean^: i always buy old matrox cards, since i don't want any hardware troubles. i have work to do :)10:46
ilba7rmzinz_165, lol you just deleted it just type plain firefox10:46
mzinz_165ilba7r, thats what it says when i type firefox10:46
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mihai_HCl, ubuntuforums10:46
HClmzinz_165: restart your shell, it has firefox still cached.10:46
HClk.10:46
mzinz_165HCl, how10:46
HCli dunno, just restart your terminal? o.o10:46
ilba7rclose it10:46
ilba7rand open it again10:46
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mzinz_165ilba7r, command not found10:47
mihai_HCl, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6656310:47
HClthanks :)10:47
depl0ylet's hope removing those themes helps10:47
ilba7rmzinz_165, did you play with your path10:47
mzinz_165ilba7r, maybe10:47
mzinz_165ilba7r, haha10:47
ilba7rmzinz_165, that is why10:47
ilba7rmzinz_165, in a terminal type $PATH10:48
pjemartii, wake up :)10:48
ilba7rif it does not have /usr/bin than that is your problem10:48
mzinz_165bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory10:48
mzinz_165ilba7r, damn it does10:48
Nameeaterhow can I have nautalis show the location bar all the time?10:48
ilba7rtry /usr/bin/firefox10:48
mzinz_165ilba7r, i know i didn't delete the actual thing though,.. all i rm was that one ln10:48
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quad_!tell quad_ thunderbird10:49
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mzinz_165ilba7r, no such file/dir10:49
quad_hmm.. how was it?10:50
Harun_der_Playerheyy leute10:50
mzinz_165ilba7r, = delete10:50
cafuegohey deutsche10:50
ilba7rmzinz_165, than you deleted it10:50
mzinz_165ilba7r, oh well i can do it again10:50
Harun_der_Playermit welchem programm kann man passwrter knacken10:50
mzinz_165ilba7r, im learning10:50
upayavir1any ideas how I can bring back my screen after hibernating via SSH? What might have gone wrong during hoary->breezy upgd to make hibernate break?10:50
Harun_der_Playerweis das jemand10:50
mzinz_165ilba7r, thats weird i could have sworn i typed ls and saw the link10:51
Harun_der_Playerwhat is los hier10:51
Seveas!de10:51
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:51
intelikeyah man....  still hosed....  error reads  /etc/rcS.d/S48console-screen.sh; line 201; /dev/tty1; no such file or directory .....  crap!10:51
ilba7rmzinz_165, you know ln <target> <link name>10:51
Harun_der_Playerihr penner sag doch mal jetzt10:51
Harun_der_Playerich will hacken10:52
ilba7rif you do it the other way you del your target file10:52
Seveasugh10:52
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mzinz_165ilba7r, maybe i was reading links backwards10:52
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Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?10:52
mzinz_165ilba7r, i rm'd the wrong one10:53
mzinz_165ilba7r, silly silly10:53
ilba7rno problem you learn as you go10:53
mzinz_165:)10:53
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netstarAs a non-root user I only have to enter the root password once and I have full access to admin tools even after loggin in and out (not reboot).  Is this normal behaviour?  If so, how do I change it?10:54
Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?10:55
robotgeeknetstar: root user, or sudo?10:55
ilba7rnetstar, you need to set your sudo timeout. Do not know how to do so but try man sudo10:55
cafuegonetstar: Note that sudo doesn't use the root password.10:56
depl0ymmm, anyone can tell my why EVERY application I now try to use crashes on me within a couple of seconds10:56
netstarilba7r, thanks.  So this is normal behaviour then.10:56
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ilba7rnetstar using sudo you will have root privlages for the timeout period10:56
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Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?10:57
mzinz_165ilba7r, I WON!10:57
mzinz_165ilba7r, im quick!10:57
ilba7rso it worked good luck then10:58
ilba7r:)10:58
mzinz_165ilba7r, thanks so much.  i should have been in bed hours ago but this is too fun10:58
mzinz_165ilba7r, the simplest stuff in the world too :P10:58
ilba7rmzinz_165, lol there is always tomorrow though. Have fun my freind10:58
mzinz_165ilba7r, thanks again, cyal ater10:59
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gerald-volthow do i check my desktop resolution?11:05
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Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?11:06
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noppopeople, how do i change screen resolution?11:12
xeruxxorg11:12
xerux.conf11:12
xeruxor in your wm display settings11:12
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noppohow to change the screen res. on the run?11:12
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xeruxI usually do it in the wm/dm :)11:13
xeruxsay, in gnome, you have a "Screen resolution" tool or whatever.11:13
noppoxerux, cool, thanks!11:14
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parasystem preferences screen resolution11:14
xeruxyay, just fixed the ACPI problem :D11:14
xeruxNow I can check battery info etc11:15
noppoi have run a DOS application using wine and it changed my screen res to some 640x48011:15
noppodidn't know how to get it back to 1024x76811:15
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sammiHi everyone11:16
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Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?11:17
katie_how can i convert .vobs into .avi11:17
sammiI'm having trouble viewing samba shares in nautilus (invalid encoding) appears on names with 11:17
katie_OR how can i rip directly to avi11:17
giftnudelStork, what do you want to do?11:17
sammiIs there any easy way to fix this11:17
Adusei16does anybody kno how to install softwares on Linux?11:17
Storkgiftnudel, i want to be able to get out of full screen mode while my game is running11:18
NgAdusei16: System->Administration->Synaptic is the easiest way :)11:18
Storkgiftnudel, and take screenshots of the game11:18
giftnudelStork, if you are familiar with the console11:18
Adusei16Im a new user11:18
Ngkatie_: there's dvdrip in multiverse?11:18
giftnudelStork, you can do ctrl+alt+f111:18
Adusei16just started using the prog today11:19
giftnudelStork, (and alt-f7 to go back)11:19
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giftnudelStork, for a screenshot: try11:19
Storkgiftnudel, that just takes me back to the full screen window11:19
giftnudelone moment11:19
zerokarmaleftAdusei16, welcome11:19
katie_yeah, i installed and used it, but it ripped to .vob, but it dosnt say anything about converting to avi11:19
katie_or even ripping directly11:19
Adusei16thanx11:19
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Adusei16this is beter than windows11:20
giftnudelStork, ah sorry, import doesn't work, I have no Idea!11:21
tristanAdusei16 : istalling software is easy11:21
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tristanAdusei16 : in system, administration, choose synaptic and look for the software you want. Then choose install and wait untill it tells you that it is done11:22
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Adusei16when i try to install from the desktop error keeps popping up11:22
Storkbah11:23
Ngkatie_: ah, hmm11:23
Storkgiftnudel, thanks anyways11:23
katie_it's just a pain you know...11:23
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Ngkatie_: I expect that ffmpeg and/or transcode can do it, with some magic incantations - google might be of help working out what11:24
tristanAdusei16 : what kind of errors?11:24
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Adusei16saying could not open11:25
tristanAdusei16 : It says that you cannot open Synaptic?11:26
Adusei16i also try watching a dvd it didn't work11:26
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triple5hi everybody11:26
tristanAdusei16 : Easy Ubuntu here : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz211:26
Adusei16yep11:26
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galorinI'm having trouble with sleep states on my desktop.  It seems to power on ok after sleep/hibernate but my display never comes up, and the system doesn't respond to keyboard events.11:27
Storkhow can i take a screenshot from the command line11:27
tristanAdusei16 : extract the archive and run easy Ubuntu. It will modify your deposit, install codec to watch dvd, divX...11:27
Adusei16thanks11:28
mtlifeis there someone here that knows shorewall a bit?11:29
katie_goodness, it's all very confusing11:29
misharimtlife: see what i can do11:29
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intelikeyhmmm well it looks like udev is all i really hosed.11:29
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mtlifemishari: I set up my shorewall yesterday, with snat functionality and bind9.. Everything seems to work except that I cant seem to forward port 80 (and my isp is not blocking it, it worked before) and when users from my internal network try and access the external ip it doesnt work11:31
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mtlifemishari: I found a tutorial on shorewall.net on how to do the last, involving bind 9.. but that doesnt make any sense to my config11:32
Adusei16extract from desktop right?11:32
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tristanAdusei16 : yes and run it11:32
misharimtlife: ugh.. never tried snat.. sorry :-(11:33
mtlifemishari: was worth a shot :)11:33
Storkhow can i take a screenshot from the command line11:33
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intelikeyhmmm my ppp burped out some error messages about ipv6.ko missing but seems to be working ok...11:34
borisattvahi, is anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop?11:34
Storkdammit!11:34
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Storkwhen i'm playing my game in full screen mode, how can i take a screenshot?11:35
mtlifemishari: can you do me a favor and try connecting to www.profarm.org:5800 ?11:35
borisattvastrok: have you tried using the print screen?11:35
mtlifei want to check if that is working11:35
soundrayStork, don't swear. If Gnome is still in control, the PrintScreen key should work.11:35
intelikey[alt] +[print screen]  doesn't work11:35
borisattvatry just the print screen11:36
intelikeystork ?11:36
borisattvais anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop? i only need you to check out a variable for me in your set up coz i somehow broke mine11:36
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Storksoundray, intelikey, it seems that the game doesn't allow any screenshots to be taken11:37
intelikeyborisattva no GUI here mate.  sorry.11:38
intelikeyStork digi-cam  :)11:38
borisattvathats cool. thanks anyway11:38
Storkoh ok11:38
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Storkintelikey, where can i get that?11:38
soundrayStork, you can run 'sleep 3 ; xwd -root >screenshot.xwd'. You then have three seconds to change to your game.11:39
intelikeyStork no really tho, i remember somethin about delayed screen shots from the menu.11:39
intelikeyStork or even use 20 second and then start the game.11:40
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Storkintelikey, soundray, it says "unable to open display ''"11:41
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CVirus_NetCafequestion: for instance ubuntu breezy comes wih kernel 2.6.14 .... I wont be able to upgrade to 2.6.15 unless I'm using backports ?11:41
soundrayStork, does 'xwd -root >test.xwd' work by itself?11:41
Storknope11:42
soundrayStork, try it in a fresh gnome-terminal.11:42
Storkbut i'm doing this from the command line, not on gnome terminal11:42
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Storki can't11:42
soundrayStork, why?11:42
Storkbecause the game is full-screen11:42
MKAhi @ all , ive big problem11:42
soundrayStork, that's why you need the sleep delay.11:42
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MKAmy task  where the  icons are is now on the left sirte on my sceen, i wanna replace it but dont knwo how to do11:43
katie_sudo apt-get install winetools right?11:43
soundrayStork, it should work from the console, too, if you enter 'export DISPLAY=:0' before the xwd.11:43
Storki'll try11:44
Storkwhere will it save the screnshot?11:44
giftnudelin the current directory11:44
soundrayStork, in the current directory.11:44
seliniumany python programmers in the house?  I am looking to install an IDE, is IDLE up to the job? if so, there are two versions on IDLE 2.4 in the repo. WHich one?11:44
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Storksoundray, what's the format it uses?11:45
soundrayStork, xwd11:45
robotgeekselinium: 2 versions? just install one, maybe it's for the versioning thing 2.3,2.411:45
robotgeekselinium: just apt-get install idle11:45
MKAnoone can help me11:45
soundrayStork, you can convert using imagemagick: 'mogrify -format png *.xwd'11:45
katie_where can i find the wine folde ragain?11:46
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soundrayMKA, be patient, ask again, use different words.11:46
Ngselinium: eric is quite good afaik11:46
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seliniumNg I'll take a look at that aswell then cheers!11:46
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MKA:) ok soundray11:47
Ngkatie_: wine folder? as in where it stores its config/windowsprograms? should be .wine in your home directory11:47
robotgeekselinium: try pida also11:47
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robotgeekselinium: it also intergrates with vim/emacs/several other editors11:47
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seliniumrobotgeek, OK :) cheers11:48
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katie_Ng, nada11:48
soundrayMKA, can you not just drag your icons to where you want them?11:48
katie_if i go cd /home/katie/.wine?11:48
Storkmesoundray, ooh, that worked! any way i can make it take a screenshot of just the current window? (the game runs in 800x600 and my desktop is 1024x768)11:48
HaNNiBaL80does anyone know of a program called web polygraph ?11:48
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soundrayStorkme, yes, if you know the window ID. Read man xwd for details.11:48
Ngkatie_: have you run wine yet? if not it won't have created that yet11:48
katie_yes, i mean it works if i do cd /home/katie/,wine, but if i just go look in my home folder it's not there, is it supposed to be like that?11:49
soundrayStorkme, don't ask me how to find out the window ID -- I don't know.11:49
Ngkatie_: ah, yes. in unix files/folders that start with . are considered hidden. I think the nautilus shortcut to show them is ctrl-h, but it's in the view menu11:49
intelikeykatie_ yes anything with . preceeding it is 'hidden'11:50
Storkmesoundray, heh, i was about to ask ;p11:50
Storkmesoundray, i'll google.11:50
gnomefreaksoundray: doesnt ps give you the proccess ID number (if thats what you mean by id)11:50
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NgStorkme: alt-printscreen should just grab the current window11:50
katie_thanks, lol, it's just i prefer to see things than just type it11:50
Storkmegrr..11:50
soundraygnomefreak, no, the X window id is different.11:50
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NgStorkme: although I'm not sure if that'll work for a game11:50
gnomefreakahhhhhhhhh11:50
StorkmeNg, it wont, thanks anyway11:51
MKAso pls help me^^: I replaced the task which is up on the screen, knoe its on the left ite and i cant replace it11:51
MKAanybody hs an idea?11:51
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intelikeykatie_ i know what you mean...  i even    alias ls='ls -A'   so that they show up in ternimal11:51
soundraygnomefreak, Storkme, xwininfo gives you the window ID, but you have to be able to click the window. Don't know how to handle a fullscreen program with xwininfo.11:51
Storkmebah11:52
Storksoundray, i can use the -name flag maybe?11:52
soundrayStork, maybe.11:53
katie_lol11:53
soundrayMKA, what do you mean by 'task'?11:53
borisattvais anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop? i only need you to check out a variable for me in your set up coz i somehow broke mine11:53
MKAhmm what is it in english11:53
CVirus_NetCafehow can I start users and groups from command line ?11:54
MKAlet me explain: there is  the icon from firefox11:54
MKAevolotion11:54
Storksoundray, woo, that works11:54
NgCVirus_NetCafe: "gksudo users-admin" should do the trick I think11:54
soundrayMKA, is this gnome you're talking about?11:54
CVirus_NetCafeNg, thanks11:54
MKAit is11:55
Storksoundray, is it possible to make a shellscript that would save the screenshot as a png?11:55
MKAsoundray11:55
MKAit is gnome11:55
intelikey11:55
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soundrayStork, yes, you can pipe xwd output through xwdtopnm and pnmtopng.11:56
soundrayMKA, are you trying to move the icons on the panel?11:56
MKAits not moveable anymore11:56
MKAnot the icons11:56
MKAthe whole thing where the icons on it11:57
robotgeekStork: there's this program called "import" which you can use to directly take screenshot in png11:57
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intelikey                  11:57
soundrayMKA, the grey bar on top with the icons is called the panel.11:57
Storkhow do i get out of 'man command' ??11:57
soundrayStork, 'q'11:57
katie_anyone here used mencoder?11:57
MKAahaa11:57
HaNNiBaL80does anyone know of a program called web polygraph ?11:57
Storkdoesn't work :|11:57
MKAok its the oanel11:57
intelikeyyeah i'm confused there is MKA talking about a panel or not ?11:57
MKApanel11:57
intelikeyok right click and unlock them11:58
MKAok th gray thing i mean11:58
soundrayMKA, when you click an icon with the right button, you should see a menu with a 'Move' item.11:58
MKAi dont wanna move the icons11:58
soundrayMKA, what do you want to move?11:59
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MKAi have moved the whole panel on left side11:59
intelikeythe panel soundray11:59
MKAnow i want to move it back11:59
soundrayMKA, intelikey, ahh11:59
MKAbut i cant move11:59
intelikeyit should drag and drop tho11:59
intelikeyright click and unlock it maybe ?12:00
soundrayMKA, click with the right mouse button on an area on the panel where there is no icon.12:00
MKAthats the prob12:00
soundrayMKA, select "Properties" and adjust the panel orientation in the dialog.12:00
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MKAthe ians are soo big , that i cant klick on panel wihtout klicking on icon12:00
intelikeyenlarge the panel12:01
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soundrayMKA, remove one of the icons temporarily.12:01
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MKAahee i have used a trick12:01
MKA^12:01
Storkis this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'12:01
TroelsDoes anyone know where the rc.d file is in Ubuntu?12:01
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MKAi removed an icon from panal12:01
MKApanel, so i can klick on panel whithout klicking on icon12:02
soundrayMKA, smart :)12:02
intelikeydoesn't have one Troels has a list of them in /etc/rcS.d/12:02
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CVirus_NetCafeI used users-admins and just unchecked the "run adminitrative commands or something" ... and now when i try to run it again and enter my password .. it tells me wrong password .. how can i enable it back ?12:02
intelikeySysVinit Troels12:02
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phimichello all12:02
Troelsintelikey: :)12:03
phimici have some problem with my new ubuntu breezy on my xcube12:03
sophtpawhow can i delete a   non "debian file archive"12:03
intelikeycame from slackware did ya Troels ?12:03
robotgeekphimic: what do you mean?12:03
phimicit crashes after some minutes, reboot without message12:03
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phimicit has a intel 915G chipset12:04
Troelsintelikey: Red Hat :)12:04
sophtpawrobotgeek: you mean me?12:04
TroelsIntelikey: You?12:04
phimici use the i815 driver from xorg12:04
soundrayCVirus_NetCafe, have you configured any other users on your system?12:04
intelikeywho said i changed ?12:04
robotgeekphimic: what's a xcube?12:04
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intelikeymdk slack and rh Troels12:04
CVirus_NetCafesoundray, nope12:04
robotgeeksophtpaw: what is a "non debian file archive"? details?12:04
phimicrobotgeek: http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?showTechData=true&artno=SBLB08&#tecData12:05
Troelsintelikey: ;)12:05
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scanwinderi just installed radeon fglrx drivers and, now when i try to open xawtv or kdetv, the screen goes blank, anyone know whats causing that?12:05
soundrayCVirus_NetCafe, hmm, so you've disabled admin privileges for the only user you have on your system...12:05
sophtpawrobotgeek: err... a program, specifically a game client i installed but with to remove and re install clean12:05
CVirus_NetCafesoundray, so ?12:05
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Storkis this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'12:06
robotgeeksophtpaw: how did you install it?12:06
sophtpawrobotgeek: tried sudo dpkg -e <name of program> but came back `glGo' is not a debian format archive12:06
phimici dont know if the chipset is the problem but Xorg writes in their website that the i815 driver supports the 915G chipset too12:06
soundrayCVirus_NetCafe, was it "Executing system administrative tasks" that you disabled in the dialog?12:06
sophtpawrobotgeek: i thought i used dpkg to install it as it was a .deb file12:06
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CVirus_NetCafesoundray, yes12:07
sophtpawrobotgeek: there was another client which was a tar.gz but that was different12:07
sophtpawrobotgeek: i cd'd into /usr/games and then sudo dpkg -r or is it -e?12:07
HiddenFlyIm going to shrink my / partition (ext3), what would be a good way to do it?12:07
CVirus_NetCafesoundray, so ?12:08
robotgeeksophtpaw: dpkg -e ? usually you install it with dpkg -i and remove using dpkg -r12:08
soundrayCVirus_NetCafe, are you chatting on the system?12:08
intelikeywhere does your /usr/bin/pager point ?12:08
intelikeyman is borked12:08
CVirus_NetCafesoundray, no .. its a friend .. I'm not even a ubuntu user12:08
soundrayCVirus_NetCafe, so you don't have access to it right now?12:08
CVirus_NetCafesoundray, I'll let him in .. to talk to u12:08
Troelsintelikey: Where're you from?12:09
sophtpawrobotgeek: ahhh......yes, i did install it with -i and now i see that -r is working too! : ) had the wrong command12:09
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intelikeygeneral question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to12:09
intelikeyTroels ?12:09
robotgeekhey bungle , long time :)12:09
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sophtpawrobotgeek: what is the protocol for removing tar.gz files?12:09
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intelikeyanybody ?12:10
intelikeygeneral question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to12:10
Troelsintelikey: I've always wanted to try out MIXAL.12:10
intelikeynever heard of it Troels12:11
soundrayintelikey, it points to /etc/alternatives/pager, which in turn points to /usr/bin/less by default12:11
intelikeythank you soundray12:11
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tafsenwhere can I get presets for the eql. to BMP?12:11
Troelsintelikey: But weren't you using gnu mdk?12:11
intelikeymdk=mandrake12:11
TroelsNever heard it like that.12:12
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intelikeysorry.12:12
Storkdoes anyone here know how to get the window id of a window from the command line?12:12
soundrayintelikey, check out 'update-alternatives --display pager'12:12
intelikeyno alternatives here mate12:12
Troelsintelikey: It's easy to confuse mdk with mdk :P12:13
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intelikeyyes i can see how it would be..... kinda like confusing gentoo with gentoo isn't it.12:13
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Troelsintelikey: Indeed.12:14
intelikeyi like gentoo but i've never used gentoo  slow modem and slow machines prevent such a thing.12:14
NgStork: xwininfo12:15
TroelsI see12:15
StorkNg, that requires you to click on the window12:15
Ngthat it does12:15
StorkNg, which i can't do :\12:15
NgStork: how about xlsclients -l?12:16
soundrayStork, you can display all windows' info with 'xwininfo -root -children' -- no clicking needed12:16
soundrayNg: cool!12:16
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Storkdarn12:17
Storki can't see that from the command line as there's no scrolling12:17
intelikeyok still attempting to use 'openvt' in a sysvinit script as a form of auto-login.   will it work ?12:18
intelikeyno scrolling ?12:18
intelikeysure there is.12:18
NgStork: command line? no scrolling? are you using a console? if so alt-pageup should work, or you can pipe the command into more12:18
intelikeyshift page up12:18
katie_where can i get codecs to play .wmv?12:18
Ngerk yeah, shift, not alt ;)12:19
Storkaha12:19
Ngkatie_: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page12:19
gnomefreakubotu tell katie_ about codecs12:19
Nameeaterwhy am I getting these damned apt/list problems: http://pastebin.com/51128412:19
Storkso using one of those commands (xlsclients -l or xwininfo -root -children) i can get the name/id of my game window?12:19
intelikeystork if you switch tty's it clears the buffer tho12:19
katie_!easysource12:19
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:19
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crimsunmark__: pong12:20
intelikey:)12:20
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gnomefreakNameeater: can you please paste your full sources list on pastebin12:21
intelikeyok testing..... brb12:21
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Nameeaterhttp://pastebin.com/51128712:21
gnomefreakNameeater: the first line the one that has cdrom in it put a # infront of it or get rid of it totally12:22
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gnomefreakNameeater: also take the # away from line number 37 please12:23
gnomefreakNameeater: same with line 3012:24
Ngisnt 37 covered by 34?12:24
gnomefreakNameeater: no leave line 30 the way it is :( i didnt see the extra line there12:24
Nameeaterisn't 37 covered by 34?12:24
Nameeateror do they have to be 2 seperate lines12:24
gnomefreakng12:24
gnomefreakno its not12:25
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gnomefreakones restricted12:25
Ngbreezy-security universe12:25
gnomefreakone isnt12:25
Nameeateroh rightt12:25
Nameeaterdidn't know that12:25
Ngboth list universe12:25
Ngtherefore 37 is covered by 3412:25
NgI was only asking the question rhetorically ;)12:25
enycHrrrrm12:25
enycAre there any updated breezy / breezy-server images available [?] 12:25
Nameeaterstill getting errors ;/12:25
enyci.e. with updates / security patches etc. in the image [?] 12:26
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gnomefreaki would think restricted main is different that than security12:26
intelikeywell to answer the question i asked eariler  YES! it will work.      an openvt command in any init script will open root consoles.    that may be considered a bug.12:26
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gnomefreakNameeater: did you save run sudo apt-get update and what errors are you getting?12:26
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soundrayintelikey, why is that a bug?12:27
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intelikeyi said it may be considered a bug,  i did not call it a bug.12:27
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Nameeaterhttp://pastebin.com/51129212:27
soundrayintelikey, okay, why may it be considered a bug?12:27
Nggnomefreak: restricted is just another "channel" like main/universe/multiverse12:27
gnomefreakoh yeah Nameeater that last one is a very very bad idea to have in there12:27
arrinmurrenyc: i don't think so12:27
intelikeyit is a security risk12:27
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enycarrinmurr: kk12:28
Nameeaterthe xmms2 one?12:28
gnomefreakyes12:28
zodiaqim sorry to ask... but could anyone tell me what application i should use to see what dnsservers has been handed to me via dhcp?12:28
Storkmedamn it12:28
enycarrinmurr: seems a shame really... would make sense for there to be something like that.. particuarly for dapper [long maintenance] 12:28
Nameeaterwell they do say it 'appears' to work :/12:28
gnomefreakNameeater:  did you put a # infront of the cdrom repo?12:28
Storkmesoundray, Ng, specifying the id didn't work either :|12:28
Ngintelikey: init runs as root and can spawn shells at will, you should only be getting init scripts from trusted sources, so it's no more a security risk than anything else12:28
soundrayintelikey, is that because it is so easy to smuggle openvt commands in init scripts, or because it is so easy to run an initscript as a non-privileged user?12:28
gnomefreakNameeater: it may work but you should not use debian repos in ubuntu12:29
Nameeatergnomefreak: yes12:29
Nameeaterok12:29
gnomefreakthey can and will break your system12:29
arrinmurrenyc: yeah, i've thought about it too sometimes, as there are quite nasty problems in default kubuntu install for example12:29
intelikeysoundray because pam doesn't catch it.12:29
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Ngintelikey: you know you can reboot any stock ubuntu machine and get a root shell just by picking the recovery console option in grub, right?12:30
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Ngintelikey: pam is only involved where authentication is required. init falls outside that12:30
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gnomefreakNameeater: can i please have your updaed sourceslist12:31
intelikeyng i know how to use init=/bin/bash   but that is not the point.12:31
Ngintelikey: I don't mean that, the specific recovery option puts you in a root shell. either way non-root users can't install init scripts, so your point is moot imo12:31
Nameeaterhttp://pastebin.com/51129412:31
enycarrinmurr: whats wrong in kubuntu ?12:32
intelikeyng no not if you set security to requite a password it doesn't12:32
enycarrinmurr: ubuntu 5.10 has a pmountd that meanns FDD mount not work properly... unless you install 'breezy-backports' version...12:32
intelikeybut there is no security catch for this.   if you just slip a 'sulogin' in an init script you still have to type the password.  this circumvents that.12:33
gnomefreakname ok try putting a # infront of line 35 save than run sudo apt-get update again12:33
gnomefreakNameeater: ^^^12:33
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Ngintelikey: how on earth are you just going to slip an sulogin into an init script?12:34
Ngintelikey: init scripts are only modifyable by root12:34
intelikeysame way you get this line in ????12:34
Nameeatergnomefreak: nope, still giving me grief12:34
Ngintelikey: eh?12:35
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Nameeaterif i wack it in front of line 32 its dandy, but that leaves me securityless :/12:35
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Storkmehow can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?12:35
intelikeyin ubuntu you just look at the name of someone in this channel,  exploit their irc client and use sudo  because they have it timed and the password is still good   lol12:36
katie_whats plf and cipherfunk?12:36
robotgeekintelikey: haha, scan me :)12:36
Ngintelikey: no12:36
soundrayintelikey, somehow I don't believe that you've exposed a real bug or security hole.12:36
intelikeyrobotgeek not you.  one of these noobs12:36
Ngintelikey: even if you do that, adding a root shell to their init script won't help you at all.12:36
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Ngand their sudo access won't be available to you either12:37
Storkmehow can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?12:37
Ngit doesn't cross terminals12:37
gnomefreakNameeater: ok give me one sec to find something :)12:37
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katie_nm12:37
robotgeekStorkme: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/12:37
intelikeyit does when like the guy said eariler, 'i can log out and back in and it still doesn't ask for my password when i sudo'   lol12:38
arrinmurrenyc: well, the spca5xx module providing support for many usb-webcams is broken (the whole computer freezes when trying to access the webcam, but this is ofcourse not only kubuntu problem), and entering in administrator mode doesn't work. bot of these can be fixed, but it's not nice that many new users have to deal with those problems :/12:38
intelikeyit's still a security hole,  no matter how small.  it's a hole.12:39
Ngintelikey: no12:39
arrinmurrenyc: err.. i mean entering administrator mode in the graphical kde configuration tool12:39
Ngintelikey: run "sudo ls" in two terminals, both will ask you for your password12:39
Storkmeis there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?12:39
intelikeynot me they wont.12:39
intelikeyi don't do sudo.12:39
Ngintelikey: I am running a stock install and they both ask me12:39
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gnomefreakNameeater: do you want multimedia repos so you can get rid of the xmms repo?12:40
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soundrayarrinmurr, 1) spca5xx works fine here. 2) root access is disabled by design, and it's a good decision, too.12:40
Nameeatersure ok, tho i have commented it out12:40
intelikeyi'm running a server install and sudo is only set up for root....  so what.12:40
brennerStorkme: startx12:40
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Storkmeawesome12:40
arrinmurrsoundray: 1) then you must have done something to it, or you're running a newer kernel, or you're not using it at all or something 2) read again what i said12:41
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gnomefreakNameeater: here replace your list with this one :) http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:41
soundrayarrinmurr, yes I am using it. On reading your line above again, I still cannot see anything that needs fixing.12:42
gnomefreakNameeater: you can put a # infront of the src ones if you like12:42
Coyctecmwhere I have to put export PATH command if I want to ~/bin to be in path?12:42
theineCoyctecm, are you using gnome?12:42
Coyctecmyes12:43
intelikeyCoyctecm local  $HOME/.bashrc   global  /etc/profile12:43
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Coyctecmok, thanks12:43
arrinmurrsoundray: 2) in default kubuntu breezy install, when you take - for example - k menu -> system settings -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work12:43
theineCoyctecm, put "export PATH=${HOME}/bin:${PATH}" in ~/.gnomerc12:43
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intelikeyyeah $HOME/.gnomerc  for the gui12:43
Coyctecmok :)12:44
arrinmurrsoundray: ehm... i mean k menu -> system settings -> login manager -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work12:44
Storkmebrenner, that didn't work12:44
Storkmeis there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?12:44
theineintelikey, and the terminal too (if launched under gnome)12:44
NgStorkme: chvt 712:44
fidhey, i'm brand new to ubuntu...  i assume installing a debian package (or adding a debian repository) isn't really supported?12:44
Ngfid: correct12:44
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gnomefreakfid: bad idea :)12:45
Ngfid: it/they may work, but you should be careful and think carefully if you are going to try it12:45
gnomefreakfid: what package did you want?12:45
fidi'm trying to install opera.  on opera's download page, i select ubuntu, and it gives me a .deb file.  i can't install it though, it claims it's broken12:45
Ngsomething that's pretty isolated like opera should be ok12:45
giftnudelfid, there might be unresolved dependencies12:45
fidi tried 'dpkg -i operabiglongname.deb'12:45
gnomefreakfid: go to this link and add the opera repo12:45
Ngcan you paste the exact error in a pastebin?12:45
gnomefreak!easysource12:45
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic12:45
intelikeytheine yeah but outside of gnome it needs in /etc/profile or a ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc   else you wont have it.   i always use  /etc/profile12:45
Ngor do that :)12:45
crimsunfid: it probably wants libqt3-mt12:46
Nameeaterthere is a very good page on the wiki for getting Opera up and running12:46
crimsunfid: you should be able to fix that with: sudo apt-get -f install12:46
gnomefreakNameeater: any errors?12:46
katie_I installed the codecs, but still doesn't work, I tried using Xine and vlc12:47
fidcrimsun: so, do "apt-get -f install" instead of "dpkg -i"?12:47
theineintelikey, will setting the path in /etc/profile make Gnome aware of it? I know that setting it in ~/.bash{rc,_profile} doesn't12:47
boostdaveHaving some trouble with the Dapper live CD (flight-2): it doesn't recognize my CD-Rom drive.  Anyone know if flight-3 will be better?12:47
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katie_mplayer12:47
crimsunfid: if you've already done the dpkg -i [..] , yes12:47
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gnomefreakfid thats before dpkg -i12:47
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crimsunfid: just, sudo apt-get -f install12:47
Ngkatie_: it's possible that it's a newer wmv that isn't able to be played - does mplayer spit out any obvious looking errors?12:47
Nameeatergnomefreak: yes :(12:47
gnomefreakNameeater: are they gpg errors?12:47
fidok, before coming on, i tried the dpkg -i.  it gave an error, so I then removed opera using synaptic.  so as of now, the .deb file is not installed12:48
Nameeateronly one way, which was unrelated to my security problem12:48
Nameeaterwhich I'm still getting12:48
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gnomefreakok Nameeater what country are you in?12:48
NameeaterFailed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support12:48
fiddo i do the "dpkg -i" first, or just the "apt-get -f install"?12:48
Nameeaternew zealand12:48
crimsunfid: no, you should ``dpkg -i opera[..] .deb'' now. It will fail, so then you ``sudo apt-get -f install''.12:48
fidok, let me give that a try12:48
katie_ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)12:48
katie_ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)??,?% 0 0 48%12:48
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Ngkatie_: could you paste the whole output to a pastebin?12:49
crimsunNameeater: please try another mirror12:49
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crimsunNameeater: for instance, from .au12:49
katie_!pastebin12:49
ubotupastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org12:49
SeveasNameeater, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/security*12:49
Seveasand retry12:49
gnomefreakcrimsun: i was thinking that but with the securty you cant add country code can you?12:49
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fidok, it looks like it's downloading the dependencies (yeah, it looks like it needed libqt)12:50
gnomefreakfid it does it also need motif12:50
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fidexcellent, it looks like it's up and running!12:50
katie_oh wait12:51
katie_im getting colours12:51
fidgnomefreak: yeah, when starting it gave an error about motif12:51
crimsunmotif is in multiverse12:51
gnomefreakfid:  yeah it took me like 3 weeks to figure out wth motif was :(12:51
Storkmei think i broke my computer :\12:51
katie_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731612:51
Storkmei just ran my script12:51
Storkmeand nothing works12:51
fidso i just do an "apt-get install motif"?12:51
NameeaterSeveas: that didn't work, tried that before too (repeated just in case)12:52
Storkmei'd show you what it is but i can't upload it12:52
gnomefreakfid: i use the OOo motif in synaptic  i cant remember the name of it12:52
crimsunfid: do you have multiverse enabled?12:52
katie_Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731612:52
katie_I think it's loading the wrong codecs...12:52
Ngkatie_: hmm, I'm not sure, but it does look like it doesn't like it. that does seem to happen with some wmv's unfortunately ;/12:52
fidcrimsun: i have no idea, so i'm going to say "no" ;-)12:52
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gnomefreakubotu tell fid about multiverse12:53
katie_well that sucks12:53
crimsunfid: apt-cache policy libmotif3|grep 50012:53
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deefzifid, running opera? :-)12:53
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P3L|C4N0hi people+12:54
fiddeefzi: i am now!12:54
j2daoshcan someone tell me if this is right? 5 04 10,20 * * /usr/sbin/ddclient > /home/josh/ddclient.out12:54
j2daosh .....cron runs that script at 5 minutes past the 4th hour on days 10 and 20 every month of every year and writes an output to /home/josh/ddclient.out... right?12:54
deefzifid, had the same problems few days ago: uncomment multiverse repositories and install lesstif212:54
deefzifid, worked for me.12:54
fidok, i'll check the wiki about multiverse/etc12:54
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crimsunj2daosh: right, and the rest (stderr) will be mailed to you12:55
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crimsunfid: note that lesstif2 is in universe, not multiverse.12:55
j2daoshstderr? and that term means what?12:55
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crimsunj2daosh: you'll find a standard Google search (stdout and stderr file descriptors) helpful, or read the bash man page12:57
Nameeaterhmm well I dunno what to do, maybe it will work tommorow12:57
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gnomefreakNameeater: add your country code infront of archive so it looks kinda like us.archive.ubuntu12:58
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gnomefreakNameeater: to all but the securty ones12:58
Nameeaterbut the problem is security :(12:58
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gnomefreakNameeater: i understand that12:58
iklaubuntu work really well ?12:58
gnomefreakNameeater: if im not mistaken the securty ones get the info from the other ones12:59
gnomefreakikla: ofcourse it does :)12:59
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Nameeaterinteresting12:59
iklahow uptodate are packages like X etc. ?01:00
Nameeaterwill soon find out01:00
gnomefreakikla: about as up to date as you can get01:00
iklagnomefreak, system layout nice or all bloated and nasty ? :)01:00
gnomefreakikla: ubuntu is released in 6 month intervals so they are more upto date than most distros01:00
iklaah01:00
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gnomefreakikla: depends what you mean by bloated if you mean desktop wise there are many to choose from from gnome-kde-fluxbox01:01
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Nameeaterfluxbox used to stall on startup when i was stuck on my old pc, couldn't be bothered working out why01:02
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Storkffs01:03
gniknomisWhat is the best WYSIWYG html editor for ubuntu?01:04
brennerStork: are you Storkme?01:04
Storkwhen trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"01:04
Storkyes, i am01:04
arrinmurrgniknomis: nvu ?01:05
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gniknomisarrinmurr: thanks for that01:05
Storkwhen trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"01:06
brennerStork: were you looking to paste stuff?  there's a pastebin script that you can redirect output to apparently01:06
gnudreameris there an option to use lilo instead of grub?01:06
Storkbrenner, nope01:06
gnudreamerI'm geting ready to install ubuntu on my Mom's computer, I'd like to keep Windows on the drive01:06
gnomefreakgnudreamer: not by default you have to install lilo01:06
Stork!!WTF:!!?!?!?!!01:07
ubotuStork: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:07
gnudreamerHow would I do that before installation?01:07
Storkarg this sucks01:07
gnudreamerDoes grub support mulit boot os?01:07
gnudreamermulti01:07
gnomefreakgnudreamer: i dont think you can01:07
gnomefreakgnudreamer: yes01:07
gnomefreakgrub and lilo do the same thing01:07
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brenneri remember if you select 'go back' during the installation, a menu pops up and there was something about lilo there01:08
gnudreamerWhen I install Ubuntu, do I have to patition, or can I leave the Windows info were it is01:08
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StorkOH MY GOD!01:08
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gnomefreaki never went back :(01:08
Storkthis isn't fair01:08
shawkinshello, I installed windows a few days ago for a temp solution for a game, after installing it and booting into kubuntu.... something came up about a possible corrupt superblock, said to use e2fsck... anyone know what to do?01:09
StorkNg, you there?01:09
Ngyep01:09
gnudreamerme either, this will be my second ubu install, Fedora 4 was a real antagonist it took three times to get it up01:09
StorkNg, i wrote a shell script to *try* and make it easier to take screenshots from the command line, and it's giving me errors01:09
gnudreamerIt need a viagra boot loader01:09
brennergnudreamer: the installer has parted functionality.  you should be able to  resize/delete/add partitions through that01:10
overriderdumb question: when i install on 512mb ram, and tomorrow upgrade to 2gb of ram, doesnt matter to the system right? i mean in a sense that when i install windows on an asus motherboard, then exchange the board to a gigabit one, it might cause trouble01:10
NgStork: can you paste it to a pastebin?01:10
robotgeekStork: yeah, that would be a good idea01:10
Storkwill do01:10
brennerubotu: tell gnudreamer about dualboot01:10
Nameeatergnomefreak: now I am just left with Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch :(01:10
Ngoverrider: it should be fine01:10
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gnudreamerty brenner01:10
Ngoverrider: linux tends to be much less upset by major hardware changes01:11
robotgeekStork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots , no script there though01:11
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overriderNg, ok thanks, i was just wondering if maybe it installs programs using using certain system parameters, such as compiling differently for different cpu`s and such...01:12
gnomefreakNameeater: i think its more server fault than anything the other night the country code fixed it for someone in au01:12
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Nameeaterwierd :<01:12
Ngoverrider: not really. you might have to tweak a few things, but generally it tries to load the drivers for things it finds at bootup01:12
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overridercool01:13
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Nameeaterheh now that stat stuff is back woo, oh well if it doesn't work tommorow i'll be paying another visit x)01:14
c1ruhi01:14
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c1ruhi all01:14
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StorkmeNg, robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731801:15
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thenukeHey, what do you suggest, how could I test few old harddisks before trying to install ubuntu with RAID on them?01:15
Ngthenuke: do they support SMART?01:16
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Ngsmartmontools can run a long self-test routing on SMART compatible disks that should give you an idea of their health01:16
thenukeNg: I dont know, they are like ~1-4GB hd's.. if that indicates anything about smart :)01:16
Ngerk, probably not then ;)01:17
Ngthenuke: you could dd to/from them for a while I spose ;)01:17
thenukeNg: yes, I was thinking about using damn small linux and using badblocks -test01:17
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robotgeekStork: try export DISPLAY=:0.001:18
Ngthenuke: actually yeah that's not a bad idea t all01:19
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Storkmewill do01:19
Storkrobotgeek, same error01:20
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MEPHiST0hi dudes01:20
MEPHiST0i have one issue with breezy... nautilus filecopy performance when copying from a smb share is horrible (1minute for a 8mb file). if i mount it with smbmount and copy in the shell - everything goes fine01:21
MEPHiST0is this a known issue?01:21
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gnudreamerso grub was chosen as the boot loader for a reason...what advantages does it have over lilo?01:22
StorkmeNg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7318 -- any ideas?01:22
Storkmei have an idea01:23
NgStorkme: you need to allow things running outside X to connect to it. it's a small security risk, but running "xhost +" inside X will quickly solve it01:23
tafsenIf I wan't to set up a virtual server, can I use xen to this?01:23
Storkmeok01:23
robotgeekStorkme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/731901:24
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brennergnudreamer: http://lwn.net/Articles/89772/01:26
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brennergnudreamer: it looks like one of those apples vs oranges things though01:27
Storkthanks Ng that worked01:27
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lowman62g'morn/g'aftnoon/g'evenin tech support room01:27
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StorkNg, after all that, i've decided to write a program in java to take the screenshots for me :)01:33
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Ng:o01:33
Storksince i have two computes next to eachother, i'll make one of them tell the other when i want a screenshot taken01:33
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th0mzhi01:34
th0mzi'm trying to get the Canon 'secure printing' working. Anybody has any clue to make this working ? Canon gives .ppt files but the options doesnt seems to be there. Any clue some1 please ?01:34
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Storkhow do i find out my lan ip again?01:36
iRobstoneage, ifconfig01:36
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gnudreamerSo what do you think about putting Grub/Ubuntu on a seperate partition? Will it still affect the MBR? I just want my mom to have an easy choice at boot, between WINblowz and Ubu.01:37
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matsHello.01:37
matsDo you guys support java problems here too?01:37
matsCause im getting a java problem on ubuntu01:38
iRobgnudreamer, you can put grub on mbr and be able to boot both win and linux01:38
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codyroMats.. if it's a programming question for JAVA I presume should goto #java.. if it's error related to a application on Ubuntu ask away ? :] 01:38
matsAllrigh Codryo. Its not a ubuntu application. But thanks for the link01:38
scenestarhi room01:38
scenestari have a bit of a crazy question01:39
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gnudreameriRob so it looks pretty? I only have a dual boot laptop and it is with Lilo01:39
scenestaryou know how gnome has 4 desktops right01:39
nboundscenestar, no we are all blind :P01:39
scenestaris there any possibillity i can turn one of them into a fullscreen virtual machine01:39
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nboundscenestar, just run ur VM app in that desktop and tell it to always run ther01:40
gnomefreak:) it works01:40
scenestaris there a x11 conf for that?01:40
brennergnudreamer: 5 words: white text on black background :)01:41
nboundscenestar, to move it to a workspace just right click on it in the taskbar01:41
gnudreamerCOOL01:41
gnudreamerI love that schema01:41
scenestarhmmm01:41
scenestarnevermind01:41
brennergnudreamer: i wouldn't call it pretty, but it does the job...who spends more than 10 seconds at their bootloader anyway?01:41
scenestarthats jsut a fugley hack01:41
iRobgnudreamer, i'm not sure what you're asking.  If you install ubuntu on a seperate partition you can install grub in the MBR and configure it to boot either OS.  you won't need lilo anymore01:41
scenestari mean as in a bsd jail like idea01:41
nboundscenestar, to make it always load there, im sure u can somehow01:41
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scenestaruhm01:41
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scenestarthats not what i mean01:42
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scenestart01:42
brennergnomefreak: so you're a.k.a bootloaderfreak?01:42
gnudreameri just want to make sure that if she decided to ugrade windoze I can "fix" problems01:42
nboundscenestar, well they are just workspaces what else could u have meant?01:42
gnomefreaklol i should be :)01:42
scenestaras in: have one screen dedicated to an independant machine01:42
scenestaras in totally integrated01:43
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scenestarsorta like a virtual console01:43
nboundscenestar, heh no i dont think so, they are just extra space01:43
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scenestarugh01:43
katie_why isnt serpentine working? it says to add music files, i try and open an mp3 and it just doenst bother adding it?01:43
katie_any ideas?01:43
scenestarfsck01:43
tristandsl g fait une fausse manip01:43
scenestarnow i have to do it myself01:43
nbound!fr01:44
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais01:44
gnudreamertr k3b01:44
gnudreamertr k3b01:44
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gnudreamermy y key is finicky01:44
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gnudreamerkatie: try k3b it's much more flexible01:45
brennergnudreamer: the only "problem" you might have is when she upgrades windows, it overwrites the mbr and you can't boot into ubuntu.  that problem is easily resolved.01:45
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gnudreamerWell, this leads me to a seperate isssue, I want to put ubuntu on my laptop which has DamnSmall installed, I want to delete DSL but fear issues in the MBR01:47
codyroJust make a grub boot disk for quick fix01:47
gnudreamerIt uses lilo01:47
codyroLilo boot will do aswell01:47
codyro;] 01:47
gnudreamerOk grub boot disk will be made01:47
nboundgnudreamer, just use the ubuntu install disk to install on it01:47
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codyro^ can do that too01:47
katie_hrm01:47
codyroJust takes longer to get to the screen01:47
katie_okay, i think it worked01:47
codyro(patience is not a virtue)01:47
gnudreamernbound which issue are you addressing?01:47
codyrobootloader I believe01:48
nboundthe dsl one01:48
codyroOh :[01:48
nboundgnudreamer, it will overwrite the mbr with grub and we'll all be happy :)01:48
gnudreameroh so it won't affect my non-ntfs install of xp then?01:48
nboundohhh...01:49
nboundu didnt meantion that01:49
gnudreamerseperate issue from my mothers new machine01:49
nboundwell it shouldnt... u just have to get grub to add a menu option for it01:49
nboundsmb01:49
nboundoops01:49
gnudreamerI'm working on three seperate boxes01:49
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gnudreamerI multi task01:50
nboundlol01:50
seliniumhi all, glxgears does not report the fps rate on my sytem any more? Is this usual?01:50
Storkyes01:50
Storkuse glxgears -printfps01:50
seliniumStork, cheers!!01:51
Storkno problem01:51
brennerStork: bah, where'd you find that option?  i told someone there was one and they wouldn't believe me.01:51
Storkbrenner, googled for a while01:52
nboundwhich samba package do i install in synaptic if i wanna acces win puters01:52
gnudreamerthe one I'm irc'ing on is my future pvr, audio workstation, next is my laptop, finally mom's dual boot astrology email machine01:52
Storkthere's one like, -iacknowledgethatthisisatoolandnotabenchmark too01:52
katie_aww01:52
katie_my doggy sleepin01:52
Ngyou can also use glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark ;)01:52
Ngyeah01:52
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Storkheh01:52
olicathi all. does anyone know how i can tell wget to save its files in a certain location?01:53
seliniumStork Ng: ROFL now that is waht I call a flag!01:53
gnudreamerpvr won't play nice with my tv card, laptop has dsl lilo winxp non ntfs, mom's machine should be fine01:53
Stork:)01:53
gnudreamerAll will run Ubuntu01:53
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gnudreamerlaptop is dual bot, moms is dual boot. right now I'm deciding which boot loader will cause the least problems during Upgrades I think grub is king01:54
robotgeekStork: i'm now inspired to write a nicer shell script01:54
Storkooh?01:55
Storkfor what robotgeek01:55
cyphasewow01:55
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cyphasejust now i was booting up, and i was wondering if there were going to be anymore Breezy kernel updates01:56
cyphasethen i get the update icon in my tray01:56
cyphasenew kernel :)01:56
robotgeekStork: for the screenshottaking01:56
Storki solved my problem by writing a server that waits for incoming connections, then takes screenshots when it recieves the screenshot name01:56
Storkso on my other pc, i just run the client01:56
cyphaseI Think, It Is01:56
cyphase;)01:56
Storkit works very well01:57
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robotgeekStork: cool, i am just going to reinvent the wheel, i think01:57
Storkheh01:57
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nboundhmmm whoever was just talkin bout kernel updates: 2.6.12-10.26 just came up for me02:00
LoPMXhow can i mail many users with ActionMailer?02:00
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nboundTo: xxx@xxx.com, yyy@yyy.com, zzz@zzz.com?02:01
overriderfor some reason my grub doesnt show up when i switch on the computer. it turns on only when done loading the os selected (blindly) in grub. the monitor is a dvi connected lcd screen to an at radeon9800 pro card. when using vga monitor all is fine. how can i make it so my pc uses dvi already at bootup? i cant seem to find the option in the bios...02:02
lowman62To: <comma seperated list> ?02:02
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lowman62:P02:02
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nboundoverrider, ur vid card should output to everything before the driver is loaded02:03
tristanHELP02:03
nboundfor example if i had a TV, CRT, and my LCD, all should receive output at boot and then when u hit windows turn off02:03
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mephis1987hello02:04
nboundtristan, ask a question first ;)02:04
mephis1987I have a question02:04
nboundmephis1987, just ask :)02:04
tristanI cannot start my gnom session because it says that there is a trouble upon loading  or when saving my gnome_segv. So I am now using Xterm to speak to you02:04
mephis1987I have a .chm file02:04
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mephis1987it s my ebooks02:04
mephis1987do u know any programme that runs it on ubuntu ?02:04
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nboundtristan, tryed reconfiguring x?02:05
nboundmephis1987, tryed searching ebook in synaptic?02:05
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mephis1987oh02:05
overridernbound, its a bummer i know. but my screen is black during bios post messages and grub, until it reaches either ubuntu or windows...i assume if i dont find an option in the bios, or a jumper on the card i am hooped huh?02:05
mephis1987how can i read .chm files ?02:05
tristannbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg, right?02:05
nboundmephis1987, i just told you02:05
nboundubotu tell tristan about xorg02:06
nbound:)02:06
mephis1987yeah02:06
tristannbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver, maybe...02:06
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lowman62mephis1987: GnoCHM02:06
stiancan anyone explain to me how i set a password for my mysql server in ubuntu? im new to this, and googling havent gotten me anywhere (yet anyways)02:06
mephis1987let me try02:06
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nboundoverrider, thats just weird hence why i dont like ati, there cards always have weird quirks02:06
overriderstian, mysqladmin -u root -p password 'yourpassword'02:06
Myconid3nbound: i concur!02:07
lowman62mephis1987: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html02:07
nboundMyconid3, is that the one where u agree? :)02:07
Myconid3no, its the one where you send me a new video card02:07
stianoverrider, i just get mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed02:08
stianerror: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)'02:08
lowman62Myconid3: that was a cool movie :P02:08
nboundMyconid3, is the 2 7800 512MB GTX's in it for me?02:08
overriderstian, so maybe there is already a password set?02:08
nboundthere*02:08
mephis1987yeah02:09
mephis1987i made it02:09
mephis1987thanks a lot02:09
mephis1987all of you :D02:09
lowman62stian: did you start mysql?02:09
overriderlowman62, since it says access denied i think mysql is running, but wrong password02:09
cyphaseDoes anyone know if anyone is working on a kind of introduction program for Ubuntu. Something that would explain the basic things to new user..02:10
nboundcyphase, you'll pick it up quick there isnt much to learn02:10
cyphase...02:10
nboundand we are always here02:10
cyphasenbound, not for me02:10
nboundwell not ALWAYS02:10
nboundbut u get it :P02:10
cyphasei've been uing Ubuntu since Warty :)02:11
cyphaseusing*02:11
stianyes, i think mysql is started02:11
nboundcyphase, ive been using ubuntu a week, and i help more than i receive help here02:11
stianbut just to be sure02:11
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stianhow do you propose i do it?02:11
stianstart it i mean (totally new here)02:11
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scanwinderdoes anyone know what package contains libXm.so.3 ?02:12
cyphasenbound, well that's good :P02:12
nboundhehe02:12
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lowman62stian: check to see how many mysql config files you have ...if you have more than one rename one to my.conf and edit it appropriately02:13
cyphasebut i meant mostly for people coming from other operating systems (read windows)02:13
daveaCaught a null pointer dereference in the kernel of Dapper Live CD 3 while trying to start up network interfaces.  Can someone give me guidance about how to report this?02:13
redguyscanwinder: sec02:13
nboundscanwinder, google it ;) im sure someone would have made a package invetory somewhere02:13
brennercyphase: so sort of like a tutorial at 1st boot?02:13
lowman62in /etc02:13
cyphasebrenner, at first boot, and whenever they want it02:13
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scanwindernbound: redguy:  think i found it openmotif-libs02:13
nboundwhat would u put in it though?02:13
brennercyphase: haven't heard of anything in the pipeline but it's a great idea02:13
nboundscanwinder, oh ok02:13
nboundkewl02:14
redguyscanwinder: my apt-file tells me that it is in libmotif302:14
scanwinderanyone know where i can find a .deb package for it?02:14
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scanwinderredguy: oh ok02:14
redguy!info libmotif302:14
ubotulibmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section multiverse/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1190 kB, Installed size: 2968 kB02:14
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nboundcyphase, the problem is what do u put in it, how technical do u make it???02:14
redguythere you go02:14
cyphasenbound, as little as possible, within reason02:14
pm_hi, can i make a personalized iso of ubuntu? with the apps that i want and all those customizations?02:15
twilightscanwinder, http://packages.ubuntu.com02:15
redguyscanwinder: consider installing apt-file for looking for files in packages which are not installed02:15
cyphaseit would have stuff like "What is Ubuntu?", "what is Open Source?", What is Firefox/Evolution/Gaim?", etc02:15
scanwinderredguy: thats odd, i have that installed and im getting an error sayin it cant find it when i try to run motv02:15
nboundcyphase, if u dont know them u really shouldnt be using linux02:16
nboundlol02:16
redguyscanwinder: did you apt-file update ?02:16
cyphasevery funny :P02:16
scanwinderredguy: apt is telling me its installed02:16
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C-O-L-Thello02:16
redguyscanwinder: what is installed?02:16
nboundC-O-L-T, just ask ur q02:16
scanwinderredguy: libmotif302:16
cyphasemaybe even have slightly different versions for Windows and Mac02:16
scanwinderredguy: but motv wont open and says it cant find libXm.so.302:17
cyphase"Evolution is like Outlook" and "Evolution is like Mail.app"02:17
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nboundcyphase, while i admit itsa good idea, theres more important things02:17
MatsyIs it safe to uninstall libgcj?02:17
MatsyOr does Ubuntu need it.02:17
redguyscanwinder:check with ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.302:18
nboundcyphase, and there are win convert distros, such as xandros, and lycoris02:18
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tristanI reconfigured xserver-xorg but it didn't fix the problem02:18
redguyscanwinder: how did you install motv?02:18
cyphasenbound, there are more important things.. but give me an example02:18
nboundMatsy, why do u want to uninstall it?02:18
MatsyCause i want to use Sun's java02:18
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Matsyand not Ubuntu's java02:18
g1mcan somebody help me to get my wlan usb stick (atmel) to work?02:18
Matsyroot@ubuntu:/aryan/svn# java -version02:18
Matsyjava version "1.4.2"02:18
Matsygij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)02:18
scenestaryeah02:18
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scenestarglm02:19
scenestari can02:19
nboundcyphase, gettin dapper goin, creatin safe ntfs writing, getting better AMD64 compatibility02:19
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g1mcool02:19
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cyphasenbound, true02:19
scenestaris it a benq stick?02:19
g1mhotplug installed a driver and i can configure wlan0 with iwconfig02:19
g1mno02:19
scanwinderredguy: out of the repositorys02:19
cyphaseunfourtanetly, i don't have the skill for that kind of stuff02:19
cyphaseat least the latter 202:19
MatsyDoes Ubuntu need libgcj6?02:19
scenestarglm02:19
scenestarthen what is the problem?02:19
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nboundcyphase, neither, but hey if u offered to ubuntu to write an intro im sure theyd love the idea02:20
cyphaseas far as "gettin daper goin", that can be a lot of stuff02:20
redguyscanwinder: hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is odd :/02:20
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nboundcyphase, id be willing to help02:20
scenestarmeh02:20
g1mnetwork-manager says "Status: not connected" there is a signal of "0" and i cannot ping a second computer02:20
androidmay someone give me a command that copy all .pdf and .jpg files on system to specific folder?02:20
scenestarubuntu is being dumbed down too much02:20
scenestarglm: do you know the EXACT chipset?02:20
pm_how can i make a personalized ISO with ubuntu? i have to install ubuntu in a lot of machines, and i want to padronize the instalation with the same apps and etc.02:20
g1mat76c50502:20
nboundscenestar, yeah... but only a good user can use it to its full potential02:20
ricky_clarksonMatsy: If ubuntu needs libgcj6 you will get an error when you try to remove it, or it will tell you it's about to remove lots of other packages.02:21
gnudreamer!chroot02:21
ubotuchroot is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2457502:21
MatsyRicky, its about to remove a lot of packages.02:21
cyphasenbound, cool02:21
MatsyIncluding full Openoffice.02:21
scenestarnbound, : thats not the point, xutils for instance doesnt contain lndir and such02:21
Matsyand bsh02:21
redguyscanwinder: don't know how to help you then, "it should work" :-)02:21
Matsyso i doubt i can remove it.02:21
scenestarand some idiot on the forums was bitching about people being able to rm -Rf02:21
ricky_clarksonMatsy: There is another package that makes gcj pretend to be Java.02:21
MatsyWhat package?02:21
lowman62Matsy: OpenOffice is dependant on what you are removing02:21
nboundscenestar, well it is known to be a user friendly 'aka - dumbed down' distro02:21
ricky_clarksonMatsy: gcj-compat or something like that.02:21
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scenestarnbound, just because its for the general public02:22
scenestardoesn mean that it should be crippled02:22
nboundscenestar, theres other options like gentoo, which will probably be what i use next02:22
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Matsyricky_clarkson,  LibGcj6-Common ?02:22
Sobh_any idea how to get a ubuntu .deb of sdk 5.0?02:22
ricky_clarksonMatsy: Doubtful.02:22
scanwinderredguy: hmm...ill just keep messin with it till it works then02:22
scenestarglm02:23
scenestarhttp://at76c503a.berlios.de/devices.html02:23
scenestarread that02:23
g1malready did that02:23
lowman62Matsy: are you wanting to install a java development kit (jdk) or java runtime environment (jre) ?02:23
Sobh_Anyone?02:23
MatsyJre.02:23
scenestarchances are that ubuntu installed the OS driver by default02:23
g1mmy vendor is not in that list02:23
scenestarin that case02:23
scenestarhave you tried ndiswrapper?02:23
robotgeekubotu: tell Sobh_ about javadebs02:23
tristanI still have my problem that I cannot launch properly my gnome session because there is a trouble with gnome_segv. I reconfigured xorg but it did nothing except making me lose my widescreen resolution02:23
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g1myes, didn't get that to work either02:24
scenestarugh02:24
scenestarndiswrapper hell02:24
scenestarwhat exactly did you try with ndiswrapper?02:24
brennertristan: you could probably help us out more by pasting the exact error wording02:24
nboundtristan, im stumped... a reinstall perhaps... but only if noone else can help you02:24
g1minstalled vnet558.inf .. it said: hardware present02:25
lowman62Matsy: just install the jre leave libgcj...is this for your browser that you want the jre?02:25
cyphasetristan, it's hanging at the brown screne, right?02:25
g1mi removed the atmel modules02:25
MatsylNo.02:25
cyphasescreen*02:25
g1mand rebooted02:25
MatsyI wanna run a program.02:25
MatsyBut if i leave libgcj, its not using the jre02:25
gnudreamer!tv02:25
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer02:25
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g1mnetwork-manager said i was connected and i had a signal of 100% but i couldn't configure the device by iwconfig02:26
tristanWell, I will translate because, I have not a english ubuntu. It says something like "Error when lauching or when saving configuration information gnome_segv. some of your configuration parameters may not function properly"02:26
gnudreamer!ivtv02:26
ubotuBugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer02:26
gnudreamer!bttv02:26
lowman62Matsy: install the jre in say /opt then in your .bashrc config file add the path to where it exists...there ya go! dundee02:26
ubotugnudreamer: Did you get hit by a windmill?02:26
gnudreamer!video02:26
ubotugnudreamer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?02:26
ricky_clarksonMatsy: How did you install Java?02:26
cyphasetristan, you're at the login screen..02:26
Sobh_Guys, 1.4, not 1.502:26
cyphaseand you enter your info, and press enter..02:26
gnudreamer!xorg02:26
ubotuit has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"02:26
cyphasewhat happens?02:26
MatsyRicky, i ran the bin file02:26
Matsy./blabla.bin02:26
scanwinderredguy: in xterm i just get the one line of output about libXm.so.3 and, im Eterm, i get a whole page of output ( http://pastebin.com/511391 )02:27
ricky_clarksonMatsy: That's not the normal way on Ubuntu.02:27
Matsyerm.02:27
Matsyisnt it?02:27
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tristanAnd, what is not functionning properly is that when I choose gnome session, I have no splash screen no launching of nautilus. Only the background I choose to launch session02:27
Sobh_robot, 1.4, not 1.502:27
lowman62Matsy: where did it install to?02:27
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cyphasetristan, that happened to me when i first installed breezy..02:27
ricky_clarksonMatsy: Check out the java-package package.02:27
tristancyphase : yes I type my login and pass and it ends there. I have the error message02:27
ricky_clarksonbeezly: Aloha.02:28
MatsyI dont know Lowman6202:28
cyphasetristan, since i had installed only a few days ago, i just reinstalled it02:28
tristancyphase : so what did you do02:28
MatsyHow can i check?02:28
cyphasenever happened again02:28
cyphasetristan, do you have a firewall running?02:28
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n00bhello?02:28
cyphasen00b, hi02:28
n00bwow02:28
n00bthis actually works :P02:28
cyphase..02:28
cyphasewhat does?02:28
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n00blinux :P02:28
glorcahi there02:28
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cyphasen00b, really?02:28
g1mscenestar: i tried to configure the device by /etc/ndiswrapper/netv558/<deviceID>.conf .. but it didn't work.. especcialy for the essid02:29
n00bits my first time running it so im kinda excited02:29
cyphasen00b, how'd you do it?02:29
glorcaa little doubt here02:29
cyphase;)02:29
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cyphasen00b, i know what you mean02:29
n00blol02:29
brennern00b: awesome.02:29
Red80Hi Everyone02:29
cyphasesmae for me when i first botted up linux02:29
n00bhey red8002:29
scanwindern00b: yeh it works unlike windows:P02:29
n00blol02:29
n00bfore sure scanwinder02:29
scenestarglm, dont expect ndiswrapper to have all the fancy scan abilities02:29
glorcathe ubuntu packages of openoffice2-beta for breezy takes as dependency ubuntu-desktop package02:29
scenestaryou have to do things manually02:29
lowman62Matsy: check to see if it installed to /opt...in console type ..cd /opt and see if it exists..if so type ls to what is in there02:29
g1myeah, how ? :)02:29
glorcaand i need to install sun packages, what can i do ?02:29
scenestaras in manually add the wep keys and ssid02:29
cyphasen00b, everything running alright?02:29
g1mwhere ?02:29
beezlyricky_clarkson: i02:29
beezlyricky_clarkson: hi02:29
gnudreamerOk so I have an on-board sis video card, I want to re-add a AI Tech wave watcher tv input card, which bttv supports(supposedly). Which configuration utility should I use to tweak the driver to work with my card?02:30
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scenestarglm, the same way you isntalled it02:30
Matsyjdk1.5.0_06  netbeans-4.102:30
Matsy lowman6202:30
scenestari read a great guide in the ubuntu wiki on this02:30
n00byeah everything is fine cyphase, i just have some things that i need to change.02:30
scanwindercan someone help me with the error im getting with motv? http://pastebin.com/51139102:30
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tristancyphase : not on my computer but I am behind the firewall of my university I suppose02:30
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cyphasetristan, no, that's fine02:30
glorcaif i deisntall openoffice2-beta, apt deinstalls me ubuntu-desktop02:30
lowman62Matsy: cd /jdk1.5.0_0602:30
lowman62then ls02:30
tristancyphase : why?02:30
cyphaseit' just i've heard reports about Gnome not working with a fireall on the local computer02:31
cyphaseit's*02:31
lowman62there should be a jre included with the jdk02:31
cyphasei have a firewall though, and it's fine02:31
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rambo3firehole?02:31
Matsybin        include  LICENSE      sample                       _uninst02:31
MatsyCOPYRIGHT  jre      man          src.zip02:31
Matsydemo       lib      README.html  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt02:31
glorcacan somebody give me a hand ?02:31
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mephis1987oh02:31
brennerglorca: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage and can be removed safely02:31
cyphaseglorca, sorry, i need both of mine..02:31
mephis1987i have a problem02:31
g1mscenestar: k i'll check the wiki02:31
Matsyso yes lowman62, there is a jre.02:31
Red80How is everyone?02:32
lowman62Matsy: just type cd...to put you in your home directory then02:32
glorcareally brenner ?02:32
cyphasemephis1987, everybody had probles02:32
cyphaseproblems*02:32
brennerglorca: yes.  really.02:32
cyphasehas*02:32
glorcaok02:32
cyphase;)02:32
glorcathanks, i will try02:32
lowman62Matsy: gedit .bashrc02:32
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cyphasemephis1987, instead of saying you have a problem, tell us the problem02:32
Matsyit doesnt exist.02:32
Matsyat least, there is nothing in it02:32
mephis1987Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:32
cyphaseah02:32
mephis1987when i install the chmlib02:33
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Red80Can anyone gimmie some help on installing a good SNES emulator please? Back in my days of windows (about 4 months ago, I've been soley linux since...) I used ZSNES but I don't know how to get ZSNES02:33
cyphasemephis1987, do you have synaptic open?02:33
Matsybut aw well.02:33
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MatsyIm at gedit.02:33
glorcaRed8002:33
Red80glorca?02:33
mephis1987i follow the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html02:33
mephis1987yes02:33
glorcadownload last version02:33
glorcafrom my repository02:33
lowman62Matsy: in the .bashrc config file you can set the path to java... :/opt/jdk<versionnumber>/jre/lib/bin02:33
cyphasemephis1987, are you installing via synaptic?02:33
glorcafor ubuntu02:33
mephis1987no02:33
glorcado you have breezy ?02:33
cyphasemephis1987, that's your problem02:33
Red80I'm running breezy yes02:33
mephis1987i didnt see gnochm there02:33
cyphasei'll explain..02:33
glorcahttp://human.gnu.cl/packages/ubuntu_breezy_i386/02:34
MatsyLowman62, is it correct there is nothing in the file .bashrc ?02:34
glorcathere is it02:34
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brennerRed80: there's a zsnes package in multiverse02:34
glorcayup, but is 1.4002:34
brennerglorca: what version is on your repo?02:34
glorcai compiled 1.4202:34
lowman62Matsy: are you in your home directory /home/matsy for example?02:34
brennerglorca: nice.02:34
MatsyNO.02:34
Matsysorry02:34
Matsyfor caps02:34
Matsyim at /02:34
Red80multiverse? Can I apt-get it?02:34
Matsyjust /02:34
cyphasemephis1987, whenever you want to install a package, you usually use apt-get or Synaptic. each of them sets the file so that you don't have 2 programs installing things at once, which could lead to instability02:34
lowman62Matsy: cd to your home directory then type "gedit .bashrc"02:35
brennerRed80: yes, after you've enabled the multiverse repo.  glorca has the 1.42 version though02:35
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g1mscenestar: the ndiswrapper-list doesn't say a thing about Atmel chipsets..02:35
MatsyNow something is in it :D02:35
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g1mscenestar: possible that they don't support it ?02:35
mephis1987oh02:35
gnomefreakty cyphase i always wondered why only 1 apt process could run at a time :)02:35
Storkmeare there any programs for uploading images to a website?02:35
mephis1987i closed synatic02:35
MatsyIm in there.02:35
cyphasemephis1987, so you can't use Synaptic and the terminal at once02:35
scenestarglm it worked with my atmel 2500 series02:36
mephis1987and i got the same problem02:36
Red80well I guess my repo's are the same as the ones enabled by Automatix, and last time I checked synaptic multiverse appeared to be open02:36
cyphasemephis1987, on the whole computer, not just your account02:36
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cyphasemephis1987, you sure?02:36
Red80but I wan't to apt-get it02:36
mephis1987yes02:36
cyphasegnomefreak, your welcome02:36
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Agiofwshello02:36
mephis1987i m sure02:36
glorcaRed80 my package can also be removed via apt02:36
glorcabecause is a debian package02:36
cyphasemephis1987, did you close synaptic properly? or did you kll it02:36
brennerRed80: so apt-get install zsnes02:36
cyphasekill*02:36
ricky_clarksonMatsy: So, did the wiki help?#02:36
glorcacompiled for breezy x8602:36
Red80it worked02:36
lowman62Matsy: just add the path to the end of the others with  a :/opt/jdk<version>/jre/lib/bin02:36
Red80i've been typing 'Zsnes' not 'zsnes'02:37
Red80now it works :P02:37
Red80Huzzah02:37
glorcalol xD02:37
MatsySo all the way to the bottom02:37
g1mscenestar: what driver did you use with ndiswrapper?02:37
lowman62Matsy: you need the colon as a seperator...no should be close to the top02:37
Red80right now to get some R*MS02:37
mephis1987yes02:37
mephis1987let me try it again02:37
scenestarglm, im a bit rusty because i used it over a year ago02:37
scenestarbut it worked crappy02:37
cyphasemephis1987, make sure apt-get isn't running in any terminals02:37
ricky_clarksonI'd stay away from that RMS if I were you.02:37
Matsyerm.02:38
Matsythere is no path.02:38
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Red80Hmm... this really should brighten my day :P I'm off school sick02:38
mephis1987E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)02:38
mephis1987E: Unable to lock the list directory02:38
n00bZOMG GUYS UBUNTU IS TEH SHITE!~!02:38
brennerRed80: don't all packages start in lowercase? :P02:38
mephis1987here the whole thing i recieve02:38
ricky_clarksonMatsy: Have you looked at Ubuntu's documentation?02:38
lowman62Matsy: one second02:39
Red80brenner: shush all the other kids will laugh :P02:39
mephis1987when i type apt-get install chmlib02:39
cyphaselol02:39
cyphasemephis1987, you have to run as root02:39
brennerRed80: lol. nah, anyone who still plays snes games is cool with me :)02:39
Red80Huzzah!02:39
scenestarpah02:39
scenestari play snes02:40
mephis1987yes , i m root of my linux02:40
Red80games were better before 3D02:40
cyphasemephis1987, run this..02:40
scenestarand psx02:40
Agiofws> and psx02:40
cyphasesudo apt-get install chmlib02:40
glorcai still play nes ans snes02:40
glorca:D02:40
scenestari got pcsx to run at 500 fps02:40
scenestarit was awkward02:40
glorcaand psx, of course02:40
glorcavia epsxe linux binaries02:40
mephis1987run this ?02:40
cyphasesudo apt-get install chmlib02:40
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Red80Hmm... how do I change my ubuntu menu logo to some other .png02:40
mephis1987run what ?02:40
Agiofwsis anyone using fluxbox ?02:40
cyphasesudo apt-get install chmlib02:40
cyphasemephis1987, sudo apt-get install chmlib02:41
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brennerRed80: not happy with the orange threesome then? :)02:41
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glorcaxD02:41
n00bIs anyone able to help with a firefox icon problem?02:41
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RiccardoneHi all02:41
cyphasen00b, what's wrong?02:41
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cyphasen00b, you want it to be the official icon?02:42
Red80Heh! I got a pretty cool 'graphite' ubuntu logo off gnomelook.org, it still has the ubuntu logo on it :P02:42
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glorcafox is missing ? lol02:42
mephis1987yeah02:42
scenestarif anyone is interested for the psx emulator02:42
scenestarhttp://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php02:42
mephis1987i made it ?02:42
n00bcyphase: yeah02:42
scenestarn00b, theres a really nice how to on the forums02:42
scenestarcopy paste02:42
glorcascenestar epsxe works great under linux02:42
cyphasen00b, one second02:42
glorcai also have tried it under freebsd, using linux emulation02:42
cyphaseor scenestar can help :)02:42
glorcaand it works great02:42
n00bscenestar: would you be able to tell me where, Ubuntu or firefox?02:42
RiccardoneI'd like install Ubuntu Linux but my my PC is old date. Where I can read System Requirements to install Ubuntu ??02:42
scenestarn00b, ill link you02:42
scenestarjsut a second02:42
mephis1987oh02:42
Agiofwsto start fluxbox what do you issue from command line ? or do you put "exec fluxbox"  in ~.xinitrc?02:42
mephis19871 more thing02:42
n00bscenestar: thanks02:43
glorcaRiccardone it depends on the use you will give to it02:43
cyphasemephis1987, what's that?02:43
scanwindercan someone help me with the error im getting with motv? in Eterm im getting this erorr: http://pastebin.com/511391 and, im xterm im getting: motv: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:43
mephis1987can i press ctrl C for copying02:43
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n00bscenestar: its just that theirs no icon their, and i tried the tip on the website but that doesn't work02:43
scenestaryeah eyah yeah02:43
brennerAgiofws: just select it from the sessions menu at login02:43
scenestarjsut chill02:43
mephis1987and ctrl V for paste02:43
glorcato use gnome, any 686 500Mhz or more and 192 ram, is the minimum i will recomend for gnome02:43
Riccardoneglorca : there's a site abuot System Requirements for Ubuntu Linux ??02:43
Agiofwsbrenner:  its a server install02:43
glorcabut, if you'l use some light wm, you can use a smaller pc02:43
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brennerAgiofws: ah02:43
Agiofwsbrenner:  no login manager02:43
cyphasemephis1987, 1, yes you can. 2, couldn't you try? :)02:43
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Belutzdoes anyone know why my wireless ethernet keep sending packet while it's not configured?02:44
Red80so is there anyway to change the ubuntu menu image to a different .png?02:44
cyphaseRed80, yes02:44
cyphasethe Menu Editor02:44
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brennerAgiofws: then i'd point you to #fluxbox if no-one answers here.  dunno to be honest02:44
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pl_icehi :)02:44
Red80I've tried and it doesnt want to work02:44
cyphaseRed80, i don't know then02:44
cyphaseit's worked for me02:44
Red80It changes on all entries apart from the actuall button itself02:44
CarinArragiofws, you can start it from gdm..02:45
pl_iceanyone uses bluefish www editor? ...02:45
CarinArrif you installed it through synaptic it should be listed as an option02:45
n00bif i type in <screen name>:<message> does that mean my name comes up red?02:45
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AgiofwsCarinArr:  no gdm  just runlevel202:45
cyphasen00b, as long as the name is in the message02:45
cyphasen00b, doesn't have to be in that format02:45
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n00bcyphase: okay, thankyou02:46
cyphasen00b, and the whole message, not just name02:46
CarinArragiofws, sorry about that, didn't read what you said properly02:46
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n00bcyphase: got ya... would you still have a solution for that firefox issue :P02:46
scenestarihmmm02:46
scenestarodd02:46
CarinArragiofws, but yeah you should be able to put it in .xinitrc02:46
scenestarcant find the guide anymore02:46
gnomefreakscenestar: what guide?02:46
Agiofwsput what exec fluxbox?02:46
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cyphasen00b, download the firefox icon and set it as the icon in the menu editor02:47
CarinArryeah or startfluxbox02:47
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CarinArr(better use the latter)02:47
n00bcyphase: menu editor, firefox icon? all i got so far is the firefox icon from the installation. I don't know what a menu editor is...02:47
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Red80does anyone know how to make XMMS the default media player in ubuntu? so I can use the 'launch music player' keyboard shortcut and my music hotkeys?02:48
cyphasen00b, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor02:49
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jshellmanI went through the FakeRaidHoto (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto) and all went fine until the final boot when I got a bunch of errors and was dropped into busybox.02:49
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n00bcyphase, that's for the menu though... i need the solution for the actual program. When it runs, the browser window has some crappy icon rather than the firefox symbol.02:50
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jshellmanSo I'm getting errors like: mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)02:50
cyphasen00b, oh02:50
jshellmanunable to find volume group "nvidia_abcdcbc5"02:51
jshellmanany ideas?02:51
Agiofwswhere can edit startup files in booting ?02:51
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cyphasen00b, that's significantly harder02:51
Agiofwsor which directory ?02:51
n00bcyphase, i thought so. Firefox had a solution on their website... but that doesn't seem to work.02:51
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pl_ice<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC"....> means in html language? anyone?02:53
n00bdon't know...02:54
brennern00b: sys > help > starter guide > tips & tricks02:54
cyphasepl_ice, it's declaring the DOCTYPE02:54
cyphase:)02:54
brennern00b: topic 1702:54
cyphasepl_ice, you don't have to worry about it. just put the standard line there02:55
pl_icecyphase no, it cuts off my web! over here it's ok, in europe onone can open it!02:55
pl_ice*no one02:55
brennerseems like a lot of trouble for such a small detail to me :P02:55
cyphasepl_ice, what do you mean? it's an html tag..02:55
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pl_icecyphase well, if someone tries to open the page, it's totally empty, but exists, on my pc and other boxes in my city its ok! cut that line out, ant it works...02:56
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n00bbrenner, thank you very much... would this work on the firefox64 version though? (the one you can download off the net)02:56
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cyphasepl_ice, what's the entire line?02:57
brennerno idea02:57
cyphasepl_ice, not just the beginning..02:57
pl_ice<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">02:57
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cyphasepl_ice, you're behind the times :)02:57
cyphase3.2 is..02:57
cyphaseold02:57
Alakazamwow @ ubuntu02:58
AlakazamI like it, a lot02:58
Alakazamit autoconfiged my wireless card02:58
polpakAlakazam: welcome in =)02:58
Alakazamthats impressive.02:58
Alakazam:D thanks polpak02:58
pl_icecyphase that's what bluefish u/d linux generated...02:58
obontuexcuse me, how do i auto accept files in xchat?02:58
matsYeah Alakazam. Ubuntu = Good.02:58
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Alakazamyes it is02:58
brennerAlakazam: 1st distro?02:58
cyphaseAlakazam, yooooou loooooove ubunntuuuuu02:58
cyphase;)02:58
Alakazamany its got a nice default screen resolution.02:58
pl_ice:D02:58
matsFirst Distro here is FC402:58
Alakazamno brenner02:58
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Alakazamive used like... 10 different ones02:58
Alakazamfrom mandriva to gentoo02:58
Alakazamslackware, freebsd02:58
Alakazametc.02:58
pl_icecyphase explain more? pls02:58
cyphasepl_ice, no02:59
cyphase;)02:59
cyphasej/k02:59
obontuplease. how do i auto accept files on xchat 2.6.0?02:59
pl_iceobontu bad idea ... to do so02:59
obontubad idea or not02:59
cyphasepl_ice, i handcode my web pages, and in XHTML Strict, so i don't know..02:59
obontui can't standby on each file i'm queued to02:59
pl_icecyphase is it ok to get rid of it? and it's so old, wth bluefish generates it ;)03:00
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cyphasepl_ice, perfectly ok03:01
cyphaseit won't hurt the page at all03:01
brennerobontu: ask in #xchat.  the people in there are pretty cool03:01
pl_iceit did be4re ;)03:01
obontuthanx03:01
cyphaseit's more for standards and the occasion when a browser can't detect for sure the version of a pages html03:01
pl_iceyeh, funny enough that u/d linux it worked ..heheh03:02
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matsLowman62?03:03
matsAre you still here?03:03
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pl_icethnx cyphase03:03
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n00bhow do i configure grub so that it can boot my windows xp partition?03:03
cyphasepl_ice, my pleasure03:04
matsGrub will do that auomatically wont it?03:04
matsIf you install Ubuntu. It will detect Windows XP03:04
matsin grub.03:04
n00byeah it did03:04
n00bbut somehow it got ruined03:04
lowman62mats03:04
n00band when i select XP it will restart03:04
matsOh.03:04
pl_iceunfortunatelly ;) why u want xp :D03:04
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matsyeah Lowman62?03:04
n00bgames and some other stuff :P03:04
cyphasei knew it03:04
cyphaselol03:04
lowman62you rang?03:05
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matsrang?03:05
matsYeah03:05
wolwerhi folks!03:05
brennern00b: restarts? no errors or anything?03:05
matsI pasted something in your private03:05
wolwerplease... i'm having problems with my locale settings... i'm coming from Conectiva (using pt_BR.ISO-8859-1, i believe) and ubuntu uses pt_BR.UTF-8...03:05
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Alakazamhmm03:05
lowman62paste again no open window there03:05
Alakazamcant get my sound going, the modules loaded.03:05
Alakazamshould i use alsa, or oss?03:05
matspasted.03:05
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n00bbrenner, no nothing... sometimes it just hangs there with the command... do you want me to paste my menu.lst file?03:05
brennern00b: please03:05
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wolweri've tried to change in /etc/environment to pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 but I get some errors. do I need some additional packages to do this? or some help please? (sorry my english)03:06
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polpakAlakazam: firstly what sound hardware do you have?03:07
n00bbrenner, ## ## End Default Options ##03:07
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default03:07
n00broot(hd0,0)03:07
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash03:07
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img03:07
n00bsavedefault03:07
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n00bboot03:07
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n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default (recovery mode)03:07
n00broot(hd0,0)03:07
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro single03:07
brennern00b: STOP03:07
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img03:07
polpakn00b: don't paste in here03:07
n00bboot03:07
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous03:07
n00broot(hd0,0)03:07
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash03:07
matserm.03:07
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img.old03:07
n00bsavedefault03:07
n00bboot03:07
frank2006hellobie here...03:07
polpakubotu tell n00b about pastebin03:07
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous (recovery mode)03:07
matspaste in private? ;)03:07
n00broot(hd0,0)03:07
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro single03:07
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img.old03:07
n00bboot03:07
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k803:07
n00broot(hd0,0)03:07
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash03:07
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k803:08
n00bsavedefault03:08
n00bboot03:08
polpakdear lord.. stop03:08
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)03:08
n00broot(hd0,0)03:08
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single03:08
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k803:08
n00bboot03:08
lowman62mats: can you paste that again...I did not have you pm opened03:08
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k803:08
n00broot(hd0,0)03:08
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash03:08
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k803:08
n00bsavedefault03:08
n00bboot03:08
n00btitleUbuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)03:08
n00broot(hd0,0)03:08
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pl_icekick n00b03:08
n00bkernel/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single03:08
n00binitrd/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k803:08
n00bboot03:08
n00btitleUbuntu, memtest86+03:08
n00broot(hd0,0)03:08
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matswhoa.03:08
matsthat was one hell of a paste:P03:09
pl_iceheh, he'll learn ;) hope03:09
polpakindeed03:09
brennersorry guys.  i thought he knew about pastebins03:09
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matsN00b03:09
matswww.pastebin.com03:09
n00bsorry03:09
pl_ice!pastebin03:09
n00byeah i didnt know03:09
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org03:09
matsallright.03:09
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lowman62mats you see my pm window?03:09
matsYeah.03:09
lowman62paste it there03:10
n00bbrenner, you still there?03:10
matsOH WAIT03:10
matsoh my god03:10
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frank2006hoi03:10
brennern00b: yep.03:10
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Matsyit will work now.03:10
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n00bbrenner: k, im usin pastebin now03:10
brennern00b: use a pastebin next time please03:10
n00bbrenner: will do03:10
frank2006firts time here03:11
polpakfrank2006: hi03:11
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n00bbrenner: http://pastebin.com/51143303:11
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frank2006very silent here03:12
wolweryeah03:12
frank2006hello wolwer03:12
wolweri need some help with my locale settings, can you help me? hehehe03:12
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frank2006very new myself...03:13
brennern00b: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'03:13
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frank2006just instaled ubuntu03:13
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wolwerhmmm03:13
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wolwerme too03:13
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frank2006got some trouble with setting, but i thinks it is running now03:14
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n00bbrenner: k, http://pastebin.com/51144103:14
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wolwerwhats your prob?03:14
tangohi everybody....03:14
frank2006firefox03:14
robtothebhow do i edit the new "updates available bubble" in drapper?  Not a big fan of it03:14
wolwerwhat prblem?03:15
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frank2006somethimes when i put an url in, it says "this is a PAC"03:15
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brennern00b: ok, the root line seems to be right: /dev/sda1 == (hd2, 0), but i'm not sure what those map lines do03:15
ubuntufuck windows03:16
wolwerhehehhe i didn't happen here, i've no idea...03:16
wolwerit*03:16
ompaulubuntu, language please03:16
interois it possible to save ubuntu live configurations, in order to be able to rescue them next time? something like knoppix03:16
n00bbrenner: same here03:16
n00bbrenner: i just copied them off the net coz someone else had them... :P03:16
ompaulintero,  there is a document about persistance on the wiki03:16
n00bbrenner: should i try booting without them?03:16
Alakazampolpak, i have intel sound hardware03:16
brennern00b: yeah. just a stab, but maybe comment them out?03:16
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interoompaul: thanks03:17
Alakazamsorry, installing some things too03:17
ompaulintero,  it is recent I can't remember its title sorry03:17
n00bbrenner: will do, rebooting now...03:17
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sarah10hello how can i remove all my mysql? (also my config files?)03:18
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sarah10i forgot my root password!03:18
gnomefreaksarah10: your user password03:18
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ompaulgnomefreak, I thin kthat is the mysql root password sarah10 is referring to03:19
vouzicohi everybody :)03:19
interoompaul: will search :) thanks again03:19
gnomefreakohhhhhhhh sorry03:19
ompaulgnomefreak, :-)03:20
gnomefreak:)03:20
brennervouzico: hi dr. nick03:20
sarah10mysql root pswd!03:20
sarah10gnomefreak:  ompaul03:20
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gnudreamerwhat is the hihest version of irefox ubunut breezy will run?03:22
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n00bbrenner: i get an error this time03:22
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brennern00b: what is it?03:22
shadrachif i install ubuntu dapper, how hard is it to get KDE?03:22
n00bbrenner: it says to replace system disk03:22
polpakgnudreamer: by default it has 1.0.703:22
ompaulsarah10, you can recover the root password for mysql, I have seen it in a faq03:22
polpakgnudreamer: but you can install 1.503:22
polpak!ff1.503:22
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion03:22
n00bbrenner: then it tries to run GRUB again and i get Error Number 1703:22
olicatdoes anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out03:22
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ompaulsarah10, I'll poke some stuff I have here but it is not very hard once you own the box03:23
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SaneEnglishMonksarah10: this is the mysql doc about resetting the password: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html03:23
robtothebhow do i get my ubuntu laptop (wi fi) to share files with my PC?03:23
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robtothebPC is ubuntu too03:24
gnudreamerwhat is the safest/best wy to upgrade to 1.5?03:24
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SaneEnglishMonksarah10: basically, kill the server (sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop), then run sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root03:24
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johnlsarah10: or add "skip-grant-tables" to the [mysqld]  section in /etc/my.cnf03:25
SaneEnglishMonksarah10: (as it says at the end of the mysql doc, before the user comments)03:25
n00bbrenner: any ideas?03:25
johnlor is it /etc/mysql/my.cnf03:25
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brennern00b: i'm hitting forum topics.  you're welcome to join me: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=343420103:26
sarah10johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does mit do?03:26
sarah10johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does it do?03:26
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SaneEnglishMonksarah10: which?  the --skip-grant-tables option makes mysql not require a password for the root user03:27
olicatdoes anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out03:27
brennern00b: this one looks the most promising so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=10131603:27
brennern00b: it sounds like a partitioning problem03:27
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SaneEnglishMonkolicat: Isn't IMAP 143 (or 993 if you're using imaps)?03:28
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enycolicat: I thought IMAP mas 143, not 43103:29
n00bbrenner: reading over it now03:29
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wolwerhas ubuntu group of packages? example task-c++-devel or someting like that?03:32
gnudreamer im doing what is outlined in the wiki to update firefox I do this sudo apt-get install libstdc++5.....computer is reprinting my terminal login name over and over I cant getinto my application pulldown menu what is happeing?03:32
n00bbrenner: what about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=grub+restore+howto03:32
olicatSaneEnglishMonk, enyc you're both right. connected now03:32
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Toma-anyone tried compiling xorg 7.0 on ubuntu?03:32
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olicatSaneEnglishMonk, enyc one more thing i'm trying to do though is login - does imap use my linux (/etc) user db, or something else?03:33
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brennern00b: so re-install grub?  if you're trying that, i'd suggest removing it 1st: boot off an xp cd, go into rescue mode, and run 'fixmbr'.  that way, you can see if the problem is if your xp install was borked, or if it is a true grub error03:34
sarah10with apt-get coommand how can i remove completely a prog?03:34
olicatand thanks, by the way :)03:35
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gnomefreaksarah10: sudo apt-get remove --purge program03:35
colinlHi03:35
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SaneEnglishMonkolicat: By default I think courier uses PAM, so yes03:35
colinlAnyone here running Dapper and has an HP Laserjet printer?03:35
albackerhow can i upload when im connected to the server using ssh /03:35
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n00bbrenner: i can still boot into XP though if i change around the hard drives in the bios03:36
olicatSaneEnglishMonk, using Cyrus here, not sure what that uses03:36
n00bbrenner: i really doubt its an XP error03:36
brennern00b: then what was that "replace system disk" thingy?03:36
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SaneEnglishMonkolicat: then I'm not sure - try it and see?03:36
n00bbrenner: well, i used to have another windows installation on one of the drives... i think grubber is trying to boot that one03:37
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jpoahi there03:37
gnudreameris paste offline?03:37
jpoaanyone here using Wvolution?03:37
jpoa*evolution03:37
pl_icecyphase turned out that it's the <meta> options that bugs out the web :/03:37
gnudreameris pastebin offline?03:38
lowman62jpoa: yes03:38
brennern00b: in that case i guess reinstalling grub is a good idea03:38
n00bok03:38
n00bbrenner: ok03:38
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n00bbrenner: will be back if it doesnt work :P03:38
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jpoalowman62, can you tell me how can i select which folder evolution will use to store emails and so on?03:38
lowman62jpoa: one second I will give you an answer...hold on03:39
olicatSaneEnglishMonk, hmm, it's using pam (thanks), but trying to login returns "LOGIN BAD"03:39
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jpoaThanks lowman6203:39
ago_how i can install cinelerra on my ubuntu?03:39
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lowman62np03:39
Toma-!info cinelerra03:39
Toma-hmm03:40
Toma-ago_: yeh you can, you'll need to find your own package for it tho03:40
pl_ice!cinelerra03:40
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, pl_ice03:40
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brennerisn't it cinerella?03:40
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lowman62jpoa: do you mean locally on your computer or within the program itself?03:40
SaneEnglishMonkolicat: Anything in the server logs?03:40
ago_locally!03:41
jpoaLocally on the computer, like for example /jpoa/mails03:41
Jarnohello!!!03:41
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lowman62jpoa: ok one second03:41
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Jarnothere are the girl here?03:42
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gnomefreakJarno: this is a support chat for ubuntu if you want to just chat use #ubuntu-offtopic please03:42
Jarnook03:43
Jarnothanks03:43
Tired_Hello.  I was wondering if anyone had experience setting up MythTV under Ubuntu, and if there's any common problems I should look out for.03:43
olicatSaneEnglishMonk, hmm i think i was on a wild goose chase. i was trying to login with "LOGIN username pwd", but i need to use "01 LOGIN username pwd"03:43
brennerlol03:43
PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: yeah, there's a wiki about it, I think03:43
PuMpErNiCkLe!mythtv03:43
ubotuI heard mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/03:43
Tired_Awesome!  Thanks  :)03:43
PuMpErNiCkLenp :)03:43
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sexcopter8000mis there a command or other means to find the speed of my processor in mhz?03:44
phos-phorospeople watch tv? who would've though?03:44
Tired_I assume Ubuntu alows different window managers than Gnome...right?03:44
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lowman62jpoa: am still working on it for you03:44
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PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: Yeah: check Kubuntu and Xubuntu03:45
jpoaOk lowman62 i'm patient :)03:45
Kr0ntabsexcopter8000m: cat /proc/cpuinfo03:45
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lowman62jpoa: thank you i am using the livecd so am slower than normal LOL :P03:45
brennerTired_: or just install a different DE after install03:45
Tired_Oh.  You need a different distro to use a different WM?  I was going to use EvilWM03:45
sexcopter8000mthanks Kr0ntab03:45
olicatSaneEnglishMonk, one thing that is odd though, is that i always get "127.0.0.1: connection refused", but it tries ::1, and it cnnects03:45
gnomefreakthere has to be something im missing :(03:46
PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: No you don't, they're all in the repository.03:46
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Tired_Sweet  :)03:46
PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: There's even a package (like kubuntu-desktop) that'll handle all the dependencies for you.03:46
Tired_Ubuntu uses .deb, iirc03:47
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PuMpErNiCkLeyup03:47
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wolwerPuMpErNiCkLe, has some package for development?03:47
Ngolicat: that sounds like ipv6 is confusing the issue a little03:47
SaneEnglishMonkolicat: Odd.  Don't know much about IPv6.  Do you know which address it's listening on?03:47
sarah10how can i edit a file in shell (txt03:47
sarah10?03:47
PuMpErNiCkLewolwer: Like 'build-essential'?03:47
gnomefreaklowman62:  is your update-notifier working?03:48
sarah10how can i edit a file in shell (txt03:48
sarah10)?03:48
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guimhi all03:48
gnomefreaksarah10: sudo gedit path/to/file/for/edit03:48
wolwerPuMpErNiCkLe, that install gcc flex bison automake .....03:48
PuMpErNiCkLesarah10: nano /path/to/file03:48
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guimI have something strange in gnome03:48
brennerTired_: there's a package manager installed by default.  and the apt commands aren't too hard to learn03:48
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olicatNg, SaneEnglishMonk the machine is on 10.10.10.11003:48
lowman62gnomefreak: am using the livecd till I move...i iggy the notifier03:48
wolwerPuMpErNiCkLe, build-essential do that?03:48
gnomefreak:(03:48
PuMpErNiCkLewolwer: Most of that, yeah... I don't recall the exact packages.03:48
olicatNg, SaneEnglishMonk no idea where the ipv6 stuff has come into it03:48
wolwerPuMpErNiCkLe, tks03:49
gnomefreakmy notifier crashed on install of fl 3 and hasnt come back :(03:49
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Tired_I know apt-get, although I'm not familiar with gui apt tools...shouldn't be too hard to learn03:49
Ngolicat: well ubuntu loads the ipv6 kernel module by default unfortunately03:49
brennerTired_: if you know apt-get, you're set03:49
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Tired_sweet  :)03:49
sarah10gnomefreak:  PuMpErNiCkLe  how can i create a new file form shell? i want to create file my.cnf for examlpe03:49
sarah10!03:50
Tired_How 'cutting edge' are the Ubuntu repositories?03:50
Kr0ntabolicat: netstat -an  will show you what it's listening on....03:50
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, sarah1003:50
NgTired_: they're from october03:50
PuMpErNiCkLesarah10: Just save it as that file name in nano.03:50
NgTired_: ubuntu doesn't introduce new versions of packages until the next stable release (april)03:50
sarah10otherwise?03:50
Kr0ntabolicat: I found that some of my service also chose the ipv6 protocol as well....   I chose to disable ipv6 all together03:50
Tired_oh.  is there a way to install packages newer than october, without compiling from source?03:50
NgTired_: some things might be backported, but generally nope03:50
lowman62jpoa: I believe this is where I got the info about that http://www.kitchenlab.org/www/bmah/Notes/evolution.html03:50
Tired_darn.  ivtv doesn't support my tv card yet03:51
olicatKr0ntab, when i grep for 143 from netstat, i get a load of "ESTABLISHED", and 1 listen :::143 and :::*03:51
PuMpErNiCkLesarah10: echo "" > /path/to/my.cnf03:51
sarah10ok03:51
sarah10tnx my ove!03:51
lowman62gnomefreak: what?? it crashed??03:51
sarah10tnx my love!03:51
gnudreamerok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?03:51
PuMpErNiCkLesarah10: np o_O03:52
Tired_if I choose to compile it from the source, will that cause problems down the road?03:52
brenneri recommend checkinstall03:52
Tired_with the package system, I mean03:52
reddickcd Desktop dude03:52
jpoalowman62, thanks03:52
Kr0ntabyou running an IMAP server?03:52
lowman62jpoa: yw :)03:52
Kr0ntabolicat: ?03:52
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gnomefreaklowman62: crashed it gave an error about fo/something see if that is installed and the notifier hasnt been seen since that was yesterday afternoon :(03:52
gnudreamerbash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory03:52
PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: It shouldn't, unless it's a major component like glibc and you use really weird compile options o_O03:52
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Tired_no, no, just the card driver03:53
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PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: Then no. :)03:53
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lowman62gnomefreak: try sudo apt-get update and see what happens03:53
olicatKr0ntab, that was some of the output from netstat03:53
PrinterGodd Day All.03:53
Tired_cool.  I guess I'll give it a shot and report my findings on the wiki (my card is newer than the one the wiki author used)03:53
Tired_thanks a lot for your advice.  :)03:54
Kr0ntabolicat: a way to get around your problem would be to specify what address your service is suppose to listen on.  or disable ipv6 all together.03:54
PuMpErNiCkLeTired_: np :)03:54
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simonxhello03:55
gnudreamerok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?03:55
gnudreamerby the way im a super sexy woman03:55
gnudreamerlol03:55
Toma-sif03:55
lowman62gnudreamer: cd Desktop03:55
ccc_gnudreamer: /home/username/Desktop/03:55
gnudreameryeah i tried that and got this error03:56
Toma-gnudreamer: also, cd ~/Desktop03:56
lowman62or cd /home/username/Desktop03:56
gnudreamerbash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory03:56
brennergnudreamer: <reddick> cd Desktop dude03:56
guimin gnome :03:56
guim creating a zip archive won't work when there is an empty folder to add to the zip03:56
simonxi own an old epson stylus color 440. it is officially supported but if i want to prin sth. the only thing i get is ascii code ... i tried turboprint etc., are there any clues to my problem?03:56
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guimhas anyone ever seen this before?03:56
brennergnudreamer: then you ain't in your /home/<username>03:56
guimand ther is no error message03:56
Toma-simonx: youre printing in postscript mode03:56
simonxToma-: How can I change the mode?03:57
gnudreamercd ~/desktop worked03:57
Toma-simonx: not sure... dont have printing on this PC :(03:57
gnudreamerty I apologize for being slow03:57
ccc_gnudreamer: great. and that's the best method, since it doesn't depend on in which dir your are currently located03:57
simonxToma-: ok thanks03:57
lowman62gnudreamer: if you type just cd and hit enter that will automatically put you in your home directory ;)03:57
gnudreamerandy trick03:58
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gnudreamerhandy trick03:58
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Toma-simonx: wish i could be oh more use :/03:58
Toma-simonx: is it a big page of ascii with some words up the top?03:58
simonxDoes anybody know how to change the print mode (not postscript)?03:58
gnudreamersweet one of these days im going to write some software that creates free energy for everyone03:58
simonxToma: no only 3 lines03:58
Toma-simonx: AHH i get that on my other PC...03:59
damien_Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?03:59
lowman62gnudreamer: I could use some energy :P03:59
simonxToma-: It does not matter if i print out a testpage or something else03:59
Toma-simonx: thats not postscript... it usually happens when you have too much in your print list03:59
gnudreamercheck your thyroid in the meantime.....go have sushi tonight with wasabi and kelp!03:59
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simonxToma-: I cannot follow you ? !03:59
_jacobhello world04:00
simonxToma-: How can i empty my print list?04:00
lowman62gnudreamer: you know i never liked sushi till they cooked it for me ;)04:00
gnudreamerhaha04:00
_jacobquestion: "set -o vi" is not working for me, anyone?04:00
Toma-simonx: somewhere in Apps > System tools > Printing or something??? ive completely removed printing from this PC :(04:00
gnudreamerseriously thugh if you have low energy probs look into your thyroid04:00
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_jacob$SHELL=XTERM04:00
Toma-_jacob: 'man set'04:01
Eddiehow force apt-get to install from the internet, im ssh'd into my box from work and it wants the CD to install php04:01
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trappistjarlev: what is that supposed to do?  are you trying to export EDITOR=vim ?04:01
Toma-check your tab completion :)04:01
_jacobno manuel entry04:01
brennerEddie: comment out the cd source in /etc/apt/sources.list then update04:02
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Eddiethanks ;)04:02
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Toma-_jacob: set wont do anything like that.... what are u trying to do anyway?04:02
blekoshello guys04:02
_jacobToma-: trying to set my shell to vi04:02
blekosanyone know how i can update gnome via dapper drake repos?04:02
_jacobworks on redhat04:02
Toma-vi isnt a shell....04:02
PrinterAnyone get gnome-pilot to work with a palm in dapper?  jpilot works awesome but gnome-pilot cannot find the device.04:03
lowman62umm last i checked vi was an editor..and not a very good one at that :P04:03
_jacobi know but there is an option to set vi commands as shell commands04:03
blekosvi is a great editor, u need 2 get familiar with it04:03
Toma-_jacob: you really dont want vi as a shell.04:03
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lowman62blekos: i hear ya...i will stick with vim tho ;)04:03
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blekos:)04:04
trappist_jacob: I think maybe you're trying to put your shell in vi *mode* so vim keybindings work?04:04
gnomefreakvi is good just hard to use for some people04:04
_jacobfirst of vi=vim for me04:04
_jacobi am trying to do this04:04
_jacobhttp://www.kingcomputerservices.com/unix_101/using_history_and_command_line_editing.htm04:04
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qt4x11hi04:04
gnomefreakvi and vim are not the same04:04
trappistgnomefreak: it's incredibly easy to use.  just hard to *learn*.04:04
qt4x11whereis sendmail.cf on a default ubuntu installation?04:04
gnomefreak:)04:04
ncnitePrinter - I assume you enabled the conduits?  Gnome: system-preferences-PalmOS04:04
_jacobtrappist: exactly04:04
_jacobhow do i do that04:04
lowman62vi is good vim is vi improved so was just kidding :P04:04
lowman62geesh! :P04:04
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lowman62thansk toma was thirsty04:05
damien_Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?04:05
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Toma-_jacob: that command will only work if youre using korn shell04:05
Ngdamien_: a little, 'sup?04:05
mirak_hi, does anyone uses a logitech quickcam pro 5000 with linux ?04:05
trappist_jacob: set -o vi :)04:05
lowman62damien_: I can honestly say.....NO! sorry04:05
Toma-bash>ksh04:05
_jacobso your saying first change bash to korn then do that?04:05
qt4x11any good tutorials for setting up mailman w sendmail on ubuntu?04:06
Toma-_jacob: just like this how-to says04:06
trappist_jacob: no04:06
damien_Ng, trying to get my bluetoothheadset working with breezy, but i get "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Host is down" when connecting to it with btsco04:06
Toma-sif 'set -o vi' would work in bash04:06
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brennerout of interest, what distros use a shell other than bash as default?  i don't think i've ever used one04:06
Printerncnite:  Hmmm.  I have no such entry on my menu.04:06
Toma-:O!!!!!!!!! errors in my xorg 6.9 build :~~(04:06
yatesybrenner: BSD04:07
blekosdo u know how i can upgrade to dapper drake?04:07
ownerdid ubuntu release a new kernel04:07
_jacobi'm stumpt04:07
gnomefreak!dapper04:07
ubotudapper is, like, totally, The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.04:07
ownerbecause it wants to update one04:07
brenneryatesy: ah, thanks04:07
owner2.6.12-10 but i already have 2.6.12-10- installed04:07
blekosi c04:07
Ngdamien_: well you can configure rfcomm channels manually with the rfcomm tool and its "bind" option04:07
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Toma-_jacob: just run 'ksh'04:08
lowman62gnomefreak: you get your updater back?04:08
Toma-if you have it04:08
_jacobToma-: bash: ksh: command not found04:08
Printerncnite:  I enabled it in the menu now.  It's there.04:08
ncnitePrinter - you may need to use your Synaptic Pkg Mgr and add Gnome-Pilot and Gnome-Pilot-Conduits04:08
_jacobapt-get i assume04:08
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Toma-you bet.04:09
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Printerncnite:  I get it to the point where it says "press the HotSync button".  It just stays there.  I have the port as /dev/ttyUSB1.04:09
skycowboyHello ?04:09
Toma-hi04:10
skycowboyDon't think we odd first time use linux04:10
overriderhow is ubuntus chinese support? like gnomes menus, applications etc?04:10
Ngoverrider: if you install scim for the typing side of things it ought to be pretty good04:10
owner2.6.12-10.26 must be a new ubuntu kernel04:10
ncnitePrinter - heads up... my 5.2 TE sync'd ok on calendar (if you don't mind all categories in one) and contacts w/ Evolution.  but I had to reenable a time or two.04:10
gnudreameri love ubuntu04:10
skycowboyI repair windows base systems all the time but this is hard04:11
ncnitePrinter - I set the conduits to get it from the palm.04:11
brenneranyone get standby/hibernate functionality on their laptop on ubuntu?04:11
gnomefreaki love irssi :)04:11
Kyralas do I04:11
KyralIrssi owns all04:11
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Juhazbrenner, yes04:11
Printerncnite.  K.  I'll keep on trying.  I'm really glad that jpilot works so good though.04:11
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KyralI <3 Irssi + Screen04:11
_jacobok gotit thanks guys, be healthy04:11
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Ngbrenner: hibernate works for me, but not suspend04:11
Toma-owner: yep. new kernel has been released04:11
skycowboyyes to linux04:11
gnomefreaki started using it yesterday :)04:11
Juhazbrenner, both04:11
deefzithe original developer of irssi lives somewhere very near my house. can i get a bonus? :P04:11
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ncnitePrinter - hope that helped04:11
gnomefreakKyral: same set up as me04:11
ownerwhere can i see the changes04:11
brennerNg, Juhaz: did you get it on default install, or do i need to config something?04:11
Ngbrenner: this is just a default install04:12
Printerncnite:  You bet.  Thanks.04:12
brennerwhen i close the lid, it just goes to sleep i.e. screen turns off04:12
skycowboyJust installed flash player and i was a pain04:12
gnomefreak!flash04:12
uboturestricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats04:12
benkong2how can i see the status of rc.d scripts. On shutdown i get an error kdm not started04:12
skycowboywhy can't things just lonch04:12
damien_Ng, pm04:12
Kyralbenkong2: do you run both GDM and KDM?04:12
deefzidoes nautilus and xmms support the "queue song"-function?04:12
brennerNg: i'm guessing this kernel won't work for my laptop then...04:13
gnomefreakif you add the right repos its becomes very very easy i think it is sudo apt-get install flash :)04:13
benkong2they are both installed using gdm at the moment04:13
Kyralbenkong2: thats normal then04:13
depl0yyay!!!!!!04:13
Kyralbenkong2: KDM is trying to shut down...but since its not running ;P04:13
ownerwhy didnt ubuntu release a 2.6.15 kernel for breezy04:13
blekosis there a way to see which is the biggest file/ folder in my pc?04:13
benkong2Kyral; ok i thought i could just remove one from the rc.d folder04:13
depl0yI got the new bcm43xx driver working!!04:13
depl0ywithout ndiswrapper04:13
gnomefreakowner: its used in dapper04:13
depl0ywoooehoooe04:13
Kyralbenkong2: you can try the sysv-rc-conf package04:13
Toma-owner: they dont do major release updates04:14
blekosmy installed programs etc takes about 4gb... and i want to c what this is ...04:14
gnomefreakowner: its unstable04:14
skycowboyis there a good video editor for linux04:14
owner2.6.15 is stable now04:14
benkong2so if i want to change back to kdm is it just a matter of editing /etx/X11/default-display-manager?04:14
Kyralbenkong2: But you have to realize, all things you do there are IMMEADIATE04:14
MacSlowowner, free or commercial?04:14
skycowboyi will try both04:14
gnomefreakowner: still not stable yet04:14
benkong2k thanks04:14
Ngowner: ubuntu don't release new versions of their packages after a release is out. dapper will be out in april and have 2.6.1504:14
MacSlowskycowboy, ups... was meant for you04:15
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MacSlowskycowboy, so free or commercial?04:15
blekosy dapper drake is goint to have 3years of support? r they thinking of stopping after that?04:15
Toma-oh dear....04:15
skycowboyfree for now unless commercial has a trial ver.04:15
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MacSlowskycowboy, commercial: MainActor, shake (very expensive... but more a compositing program)04:15
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gnomefreakstopping what?04:15
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MacSlowskycowboy, MainActor has a free trial... I think04:16
MacSlowskycowboy, I don't think for shake there's an evaluation-version.04:16
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lowman62_away.04:17
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knubbe-is there a way to log my wlan connection? alert/write to file if it goes down04:17
MacSlowskycowboy, free movie-editors... hm... I only know of programs that are still in development... Diva, pitivi04:17
gnudreamerany hints on forcing my wireless card to broadcast as a wireless access point?04:17
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ownerxvid macslow04:18
MacSlowowner, hm... I don't know that one04:18
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ownerits pretty popular04:18
MacSlowowner, I know 3D-apps a bit better04:18
knubbe-is xvid considered a movie editor?04:18
ownerits a video codec04:19
MacSlowowner, skycowboy: doesn't blender have a kind of "movie-editor" by  now... or something similar.04:19
brennerisn't cinelerra free?04:19
PlankerI am very new to linux/ubuntu. Sorry, if this a silly question. I just installed a program. I can run it from the terminal by typing cd /usr/local/chandler and then ./release/RunChandler .....if i wanted to make a launcher on the desktop for it, is it possible? what command would i need to put in for the launcher?04:19
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owneryou can create launchers by right clicking and selecting launcher04:20
damien_Ng, still there?04:20
ownerin gnome04:20
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Ngdamien_: yep, I didn't get any messages though04:20
Plankeri cant figure out the command i'd need to enter for the launcher though.04:20
damien_odd04:20
Ngbrenner: it is, but it's also terrifically complicated to use04:20
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brennerPlanker: /usr/local/chandler/release/RunChandler i'd assume04:20
Ngdamien_: I think there is something about having to register with NickServ on this IRC network before you can /msg people04:20
MacSlowskycowboy, there's a dedicated site to art-creation software under Linux.04:20
ownerdo whereis programname04:20
brennerPlanker: i.e. connect the dots04:20
damien_oh04:20
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damien_Ng,  quess i'll do that first then :D04:21
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Ngskycowboy: avidemux is pretty simple, but works. kino is pretty good if you are working with DV04:21
theineis the dapper kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0?04:21
Kyral4.004:21
KyralI think04:21
theineand how does one find that out btw?04:21
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Kyraluname -a?04:22
theineKyral, thanks, but I'd like to be sure04:22
NgKyral: cat /proc/version04:22
theineKyral, no04:22
Kyraloh lol04:22
Kyralgood to know04:22
theineNg, that's it, thanks04:22
Ng:)04:22
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brennerMacSlow: what site'd that be?04:23
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MacSlowbrenner, I'm just trying to remember the URL... a bit along the line www.linuxartists.org04:24
tzfardeaHey I have a problem, I can't change the keyboard layout04:24
MacSlowBut that's not it04:24
tzfardeaI found some threads but nothing helped04:24
tzfardeaWhen i'm using setxkbmap to change layout I get this error04:24
tzfardeaError loading new keyboard description04:24
gnomefreakthe dapper kernel is compiled with 4.0 im almost sure of that04:24
tzfardeaI also checked the xorg.conf file and it looks fine04:25
tzfardeaWhat can I do?04:25
Plankerthe readme file says the program is such that i cant run the program by typing ./RunChander while i'm in the release directory, that it will only run if i navigate to the 'chandler' directory and then do the ./release/RunChandler. :-/04:26
reddicktzfardea, what's your problem one more time ?04:26
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tzfardeaI can't change the keyboard layout04:27
pl_icehey, i need some hand with www, re-directing, firefox works cool, u/d IE it's stuck, anyone?04:27
reddickon witch ? some like CZ ?04:27
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tzfardeaI am trying to change the layout to us,il, if you mean that04:27
colinlEach time I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I get some "The following packages have been kept back: blah"04:27
colinlhow do I upgrade these packages?04:28
brennerPlanker: that's kinda weird04:28
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reddickedit this line04:28
reddick        Option          "XkbLayout"     "cz,us"04:28
Kyralcolinl: in Dapper or Breezy?04:28
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colinlKyral: Dapper, sorry04:28
Kyralcolinl: in dapper you need to use dist-upgrade04:28
tzfardeaI already did this, but it didn't help04:28
colinlKyral: each time?04:28
Kyralupgrade doesn't remove packages to satisfy the upgrade, dist will04:28
Kyralcolinl: yah04:29
gnudreamerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/732304:29
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colinlKyral: great, thanks!04:29
gnudreamertotem dvd issue04:29
ownerhow can i enable rar support in ubuntu04:29
reddickso try to reboot. BTW are you using gnome ?04:29
Kyralowner: sudo apt-get install rar unrar-nonfree04:29
tzfardeaNo, I am using ion204:29
twitch101how do i figure out what type of filesystem my external cdr/rw drive is?04:29
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gnudreamerafter running restricted formats wiki04:29
brennerowner: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse04:29
tzfardeaI tried to reboot... didn't help again04:29
reddickwell have no exprience with that one .. sorry04:30
ownerthanks kyral and brenner04:30
tzfardeaok thanks...04:30
twitch101can anyone tell me how to figure out the filesystem of my external cdr/rw burner04:30
Kyraltoo many Dapper upgrades this morning04:30
Plankerbrenner: yeah, i thought so. the readme says "You will need to change to the chandler subdirectory, then type release/RunChandler. Note that you must be in the chandler directory; you cannot change to the release directory and type ./RunChandler". So, there's probably no easy way to make a launcher, you think04:30
Planker?04:30
Kyraltwitch101: its prolly UDF-8 or ISO<something>04:30
TomBeeI'm remastering the ubuntu livecd, is there a way of taking a list of packages from one livecd, then using that list to add/remove packages from a new livecd?04:30
twitch101ok...04:31
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colinlStill about Dapper, I noticed breakage of my HP laser printer, after investigation it looks like the culprit is the recent upgrade of udev and/or incompatibility with the vanilla 2.6.15 kernel04:31
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colinlbasically, /dev/usblp0 when hplip expects /dev/usb/lp004:31
Kyralthe 2.6.15 isn't vanilla...04:31
brennerPlanker: i don't personally know how you would do it, no.04:31
colinlKyral: mine is :)04:31
MacSlowbrenner, hm... it should be at www.linuxartist.org04:31
Kyralcolinl: then use the Ubuntu kernel lol04:32
MacSlowbrenner, but it doesn't load for me here atm.04:32
brennernot for me either04:32
colinlIt lacks a few crappy patches I have :)04:32
Kyraloy04:32
brennerbut thanks for the URL04:32
Plankeralright. thanks anyways though. i was worried it was something simple that i was just overlooking. :)04:32
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Ngcolinl: don't tell us, report a bug or something ;)04:32
blekosanyone can tell me how i can upgrade gnome?04:32
Kyralblekos: to?04:32
Kyralblekos: and are you in Breezy?04:33
colinlNg, yes, just wanted to see if anyone else had the problem04:33
Ngblekos: if you really want to, jhbuild, or upgrade to dapper. neither is an especially good plan though04:33
twitch101omg can someone please write me out the mount command for the damn thing if i give you the fstab or the "dmesg" write out of the device04:33
MacSlowbrenner, ah... now it loads again.04:33
twitch101cause i cant get it to work04:33
colinltwitch101: to mount a cd ?04:33
twitch101external cdburner04:33
blekoshm, i didnt mean to jump directly to dapper just gnome04:33
Kyraltwitch101: sudo mount -t <device> <mountpoint>04:33
deefziis adobe's or some other acrobat reader available from repositories?04:33
blekosmaybe firefox as well :)04:33
Kyralblekos: Dapper's GNOME will NOT be backported to Breezy04:34
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Ngdeefzi: evince should be installed by default04:34
colinltwitch101: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom04:34
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Kyralsame with Firefox04:34
twitch101so i do the UDF before the acvutal /dev04:34
deefziNg, oh. then i have to fix it to work w/ opera. ty.04:34
blekosthat means i shoud do dist-upgrade...04:34
Ngdeefzi: the adobe acrobat reader is in multiverse it would seem though - package is called acroread04:35
blekos?04:35
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NgKyral: I used to have it and I still don't understand it ;)04:35
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KyralThen again I use Dapper04:35
Kyralbut I also use stuff that hasn't been updated in like years (Fluxbox, Irssi)04:36
blekosKyral r u on Dapper???? ??04:36
Kyralblekos: yah04:36
deefziNg, ok. but if evince is as good as acroread, then i won't bother downloading extra-packages. or if you've used both, what's your opinion?04:36
blekosdoes it work?04:36
Kyralso far04:36
Kyralbut I think breakage is about to hit04:36
blekoslol04:36
KyralBeagle is disabled though04:36
Ngdeefzi: well I like evince because it's integrated into gnome, where acroread stands out and looks nasty, but I have hit a few obscure PDFs that will only open in acroread, so I have both installed04:37
blekoswhen u installed it, were the files of the previous version removed or u needed extra space?04:37
Kyralblekos: I have a massive HD. I have KDE, XFCE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and Fluxbox installed04:37
KyralHD Space is NOT an issue ;P04:37
deefziNg, ok. maybe it's worth installing, then.04:38
KyralI just find stability boring :P04:38
olicathi again all. when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)04:38
yatesyall those apps are hardly a lot of space :P04:38
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olicatdoes anyone know where i configure the system to use imap?04:38
gnudreamerIm trying to enable dma, I'm following the wiki, I get some errors. ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7325) what is a command to figure out which drive ie. hdc hdb my dvd drive is?04:38
blekos:)04:38
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trappistolicat: in your email client04:38
Kyralgnudreamer: look in FSTAB?04:38
twitch101how would i edit the ftab file to accomodate this "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"04:38
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gnudreamerok04:38
blekosdid worth the upgrading though?04:38
Kyraltwitch101: find out that /dev entry it is04:38
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twitch101how?04:39
Kyralblekos: /me shrugs04:39
Kyraltwitch101: put a disc in?04:39
twitch101yea i did04:39
Kyralor tab complete /dev/04:39
olicatisn't it a server configuration? since the imap server isn't getting the mail?04:39
trappisttwitch101: /dev/sda1 /media/whatever auto defaults 0 004:39
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pl_icedone , IE doesn't know what's ./ is :) hehheh where firefox does(if someone had read my question above...)04:40
poningrupl_ice: what question?04:40
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twitch101yea it doesnt work04:41
twitch101thanks for tryin tho04:41
pl_iceponingru re-directions didn't work u/d IE, whereas it worked u/d firefox, couse IE does not like ./ shortcuts in the html lang.04:41
olicatany ideas why when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)04:41
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gnudreamerwhere is fstab?04:42
deefzignudreamer, /etc04:42
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gnudreamerah04:42
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trappistolicat: postfix (or procmail) needs to deliver the mail to the same place imap expects to find it04:43
pl_iceis in /etc/fstab04:43
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deefzignudreamer, for future 'updatedb && locate [filename] '04:43
gnudreamercool04:43
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jrattnerWhere is Document root and the CGI bin for apache2?04:43
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Kyraljrattner: DocumentRoot is default /var/www04:43
deefzignudreamer, although locate only, not wise to updatedb every time you wanna search something. run it only when you are certain that you should get something hits with the locate command, but you don't04:43
Kyraldunno about cgi-bin04:43
Ng /usr/lib/cgi-bin04:44
jrattnerKyral, not /var/www/apache2-default?04:44
Kyraljrattner: nope04:44
deefzignudreamer, you could put updatedb in cron04:44
gnudreamerin fstab where dvd cd rw drive should read as such it calls it cdrom104:44
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jrattnerKyral thanks04:44
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Kyraljrattner: At least in Debian's it is lol04:44
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pl_iceanyone from ireland? ....04:44
Ngjrattner: it's set in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default, look for DocumentRoot04:45
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/732604:45
blekosmayb i should wait then ... :/04:45
KyralThis is gonna be one helluva prelink04:45
StMwhen i use wpa it doesn't work04:45
brennerdeefzi: it's in there by default iirc04:45
StMwithout wpa it works nice...04:45
deefzibrenner, ok. what's the timeline?04:45
olicattrappist, any idea where that is configured?04:45
pl_iceeh, bed time :) c ya.04:45
gnudreamerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/732704:45
gnudreamerattempting to update dma04:46
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blekosbye04:46
brennerdeefzi: would /etc/cron.daily/slocate be it?04:46
trappistolicat: depends on what imap server you're using04:46
icyvaporssid problem: everytime I reboot, my wireless config always change the format of ssid to Hex whereas my router uses plain ascii... where should I fix it04:46
blekospl_ice04:46
olicattrappist, cyrus04:46
trappistolicat: I've never used cyrus.  might wanna consult the docs.04:47
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olicattrappist, on some other type of imap system, what would the setting be called? (just so i have a starting point)04:47
olicatat the moment, i'm not sure what it is that i'm configuring04:47
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StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?04:48
brennerdeefzi: all i know is each day i see activity in the system monitor applet, and when i do a top, updatedb is running04:48
trappistolicat: in courier it's MAILDIRPATH04:49
gnomefreakKyral: are you using konsole for screen/irssi?04:49
tristanhello04:49
jrattnerLast apache question, what user should I chown my files too04:49
olicattrappist, thanks, i'll look into it04:49
Kyralgnomefreak: xfce4-terminal04:49
thgjerdei am trying to upload a lot of files to a samba server, but for some reason the hard drives goes bananas with reads and writes. the upload speed is 3.5 MB/s, i would expect at least 30 MB/s04:49
gnomefreak:(04:49
Kyralor xterm04:49
gnomefreaki cant open links04:49
gnudreamerhow do i get out o read only to edit hparm.conf file?04:49
trappistgnudreamer: use sudo to edit it as root04:50
gnomefreakgnudreamer: do you want to edit it or get out of it?04:50
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blekosppl when it try to listen to radio via firefox, i get the msg, totem could not play fd://0, the no decoders to handle stream04:50
tristanI have trouble launching my gnome session. It cannot launch properly because it says that there are errors when launching or saving gnome-segv04:50
blekosdo u have any idea how i can fix that04:51
jrattnerNG what user and group should my files be, root:root?04:51
blekosi mainly use vlc, for mp3 etc04:51
j2daoshanyone got a link for learning mysql? preferably a wiki or someshit?04:51
gnudreameredit04:51
calebJust installed Ubuntu, is there a default password for the root account? I am trying to 'su' and it's not taking my password04:51
Kyralj2daosh: mysql.com?04:51
Kyralubotu tell caleb about RootSudo04:51
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gnomefreakubotu tell caleb about root04:51
Ngjrattner: it doesn't matter so much providing others can read them, or you can chown them to www-data:www-data which is the user/group that apache2 should be running as04:51
trappistj2daosh: the docs on the mysql site are very good04:51
tristanI reinstalled gnome-desktop-environment and gdm but it did not fix the problem04:51
icyvaporgnudreamer: switch to su, and chmod 700 your_file04:51
j2daosh!sudo04:51
gnomefreakKyral: rootsudo isnt a command anymore :(04:51
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.04:51
calebthanks04:52
tristanAnd I don't want to format04:52
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j2daoshur welcome04:52
gnomefreak<<<tried sudo sudoroot and root this am only root worked :(04:52
icyvaporgnudreamer: or if the file is yours.. just do it as yourself04:52
j2daoshgnome... whats going on?04:52
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Kyralyah classtime04:52
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tristanI can launch Xterm_failsafe (which I am currently on). I can launch ,firefox and so on but cannot launch nautilus04:53
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?04:53
icyvaporgnudreamer: maybe just "su"?04:53
tristanSo I think that is why my gnome session won't load properly04:53
gnomefreakhi j2daosh04:53
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j2daoshhows it hanging gnomefreak, what problem you having?04:53
leoniehi. i installed ubuntu for my mother and then changed the monitor. it had just 640x480, so i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i dont get a usable picture anymore04:53
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gnomefreakusing konsole with screen/irssi and cant get links to open :(04:54
leoniei mean, i get a picture, but gnome doesnt seem to like it. all the windows become black.04:54
brennertristan: is this you error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117037&highlight=gnome_segv04:54
j2daoshkonsole? like the knoppix konsole?04:54
gnomefreakj2daosh: like kde konsole04:54
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brenners/you/your04:55
gnudreamericy ty that worked04:55
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j2daoshok yeah... knoppix terminal...lol well i dont know then... i know the terminal but i dont know what the screen irssi is...04:55
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tristanbrenner : exactly that's what is written04:56
j2daoshisn't that like another irc chat thing? cept it just uses a console instead of a proggie?04:56
icyvaporgnudreamer: np04:56
trappistgnomefreak: I don't think it's supported04:56
dsfghdfghsal04:56
gnudreamer;)04:56
dsfghdfghsa va fut04:56
brennertristan: try the dist-upgrade as suggested04:56
dsfghdfghpe toti04:56
dsfghdfgh:))04:56
gnomefreakirssi is an irc client and sceen is something not real sure yet but it has lots of options from what i hear lol04:56
gnudreamerafter making dma settings do i need to reboot04:56
jrattnerWhy can I see my webpage, only from the local network and not from the internet? Any clues on that one04:56
trappistgnomefreak: screen is awesome.04:56
tristanbrenner : this is not a new install04:56
trappistgnomefreak: it will change your life when you learn how to use it.04:56
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CarinArrscreen is extremely useful04:56
alainlucashow to compress a directory with a command line04:57
gnomefreaktrappist: im sure it is just not real sure what im doing lol04:57
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brennertristan: can you think of anything that might have caused it?04:57
dsfghdfghhy bro04:57
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j2daoshzip file04:57
j2daosh"file"04:57
CarinArrit's not that complicated really04:57
icyvaporanyone know where I can find the config file for wireless?04:57
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:57
tristanbrenner : yes I had to shut down the computer by pressing 10 seconds the power button because the computer froze04:57
gnomefreakCarinArr: your talking to someone that cant figure out how to open links :(04:57
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dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:57
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:57
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dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:57
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
gnomefreak!ops04:58
dsfghdfghhow to connect too *.undernet.org ?04:58
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ubotumethinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.04:58
leoniedsfghdfgh, stop that, please.04:58
dsfghdfghpls04:58
trappistomg04:58
leoniedsfghdfgh, which client?04:58
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?04:58
dsfghdfghhelp me pls04:58
trappistleonie: please don't feed them04:58
j2daoshdsf... open your server list and conect04:58
Seveassigh04:58
brennertristan: what caused the freeze?04:58
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leonietrappist, sorry.04:58
j2daoshhey seveas04:58
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tristanbrenner : seems it was firefox04:58
gnomefreakwell he was spamming :(04:58
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icyvapormy ssid keeps using a hex format, but the plain ascii is what I want04:59
Seveasgnomefreak, I know, the sigh was aimed at him :)04:59
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gnomefreakoh ok :)04:59
brennertristan: i don't know to be honest.  one app freeze shouldn't cause entire system failure04:59
imc_Anyone running breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH104:59
icyvaporI changed it in network-admin, but it won't ave the change results04:59
tristanI'll try what is said i the post you gave me04:59
brennertristan: good luck05:00
Seveas!tell imc_ about anyone05:00
leoniedoes anyone have a great tip for my gnome-problem? i dont know what i did wrong. it doesnt show anything properly anymore since i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and thats bad ;(05:00
tristanbrenner : thanks I need it05:00
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CarinArrleonie, what do you mean it doesn't "show anything properly"05:00
tristanleonie : what is your graphic card? ati radeon?05:00
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leonietristan, no, its an old matrox.05:00
brennerCarinArr: i typed that sentence out exactly05:01
leonieCarinArr, the windows becone black and half of the background image is missing o_O05:01
CarinArrlol05:01
imc_Seveas, actually my ACTUAL question was whether, yes, anyone, in the room was running Breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH1. Hence the form of my question :)05:01
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brennerCarinArr: i want however many keypresses that took out of my life back please. :)05:01
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Ngimc_: and if someone says yes you obviously have a followup question, that is what you're being asked to ask ;)05:01
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qsrvhi I need help with evolution (2.4.1) on ubuntu05:02
teclisHello, is their posibility with evolution to accept an SSL-certificate automatically? It's getting on my nerves to see the certificate-window everytime evolution starts.05:02
imc_But I do not have a followup05:02
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tristanbrenner : OK. I'm rebooting. I hope it will finally work. I don't want to use kde....05:02
qsrvI don't know what could be the cause, but since yesterday it does not retrieve emails from the servers (pop)05:02
Ngimc_: that begs the obvious question of why you are asking then ;)05:02
brennertristan: good luck again05:02
qsrvit just reports the number of emails05:02
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CarinArrleonie, does sound like it might be a videocard issue, but i'm hardly an expert05:03
qsrvand then sits there saying it's receiving email 1 of n05:03
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Seveasimc_, hehe :)05:03
qsrvno network activity either05:03
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imc_Ng, well, if *someone* is running it it was a good indication of the fact that SOMEONE got it running :)05:04
qsrvany ideas?05:04
imc_And as they say in the Navy, That is all.05:04
imc_:)05:04
brennerleonie: screenshot?05:04
tsaberiHi all. I have got 5.10 Breezy running and I'm having trouble getting X to use the proper video driver. I have an intel mobo /w the i865 chipset. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not seem to fix anything (i865 isn't in the controller list)05:04
interoompaul: here it is, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence05:05
nubuntumy xmms stops between every song. it wasnt like this before. help!05:05
imc_I mean, you know, coming down to it, my job will buy me a new machine and I am teetering between an iBook and the AV3715-EH1 which is about the same price and will run out of the box. But the Averatec is an AMD machine and I've never owned an AMD based Laptop.05:05
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:05
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StMdebug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode05:05
brennertsaberi: have you tried the vesa driver?05:05
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jrattnerCould someone go to www.dovertubular.com and tell me if the website loads?05:07
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tsaberibrenner: is that the driver I should be using with this chipset ?05:07
imc_Works fine for me jrattner05:07
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jrattnerimc_, really, thats weird, why doesnt it load from within the network?05:07
jrattnerodd05:07
jrattnerbut good then05:07
brennertsaberi: it's sort of like the "failsafe"  almost every card should at least be able to get into X with it05:07
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JemtGreetings. I'm working on a little shell script that makes it easier for me to switch network profiles in Ubuntu. Is it possible to set a network interface to obtain the IP itself using a console program (ie ifconfig) ?05:08
tsaberivesafb is listed when I runlsmod05:08
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leoniebrenner, the screenshot shows everything as it should be.05:10
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leoniei will take a photo. *g*05:10
brennerleonie: heh. isn't that always the case?05:10
Toba|BSDhey... what is the binary for the keyboard shortcut too called?05:10
brennerleonie: you probably just chose a wrong setting or something when you reconfigured05:10
Toba|BSDI have no mouse and can't get to the menus05:10
brennerleonie: iirc, you should have a backup copy of the original xorg.conf file05:11
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vesSay I've created a init.d script, what's the command to make it activate on boot again?05:11
vesrc-update?05:11
leoniebrenner, i tried different settings.. :/05:11
M3t4ll1k0hi all05:11
gnomefreakok what do i do to add a term to screen?05:11
brennerToba|BSD: gnome-keybinding-properties05:11
Toba|BSDthx05:11
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brennergnomefreak: ctrl+a, n05:12
M3t4ll1k0can anyone help me to make work a a gamming whell in linux?05:12
gnomefreakty brenner05:12
M3t4ll1k0it is a logitech momo racing05:12
gnomefreak it says no other window05:12
M3t4ll1k0any I have no idea how to get it work05:13
M3t4ll1k0any idea?05:13
Nggnomefreak: ctral+a, c05:13
ninnghizidhaHello! I need template-Help for OpenOffice ...05:13
M3t4ll1k0were I can find drivers?05:13
wogimorning ubuntuians!05:13
brennermy mistake.  been a while since i used it. sorry05:13
Nggnomefreak: ctrl+a, n moves to the next term05:13
Nggnomefreak: ctrl+a, ? shows all of the available commands05:13
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Ngbrenner: I'm not mighty, I've just been doing this for a while ;)05:14
Toba|BSDthank you brenner05:14
brennerwhy the ctrl+a?  what does a stand for? :)05:14
brennerToba|BSD: np05:14
Toba|BSDbah xchat is useless with no mouse05:14
Ngbrenner: dunno, you can remap it if you want. I guess maybe because it's easy - most of the useful shortcuts are all doable with just your left hand05:14
jrattnerDoes anyone have AWStats configured with Apache2?05:14
CarinArrtoba|bsd, don't use xchat then;)05:14
Toba|BSDheh05:15
Toba|BSDI had the vain hope that ctrl+tab would move between chans05:15
Toba|BSDbut no, it didn't05:15
brennerNg: ah.05:15
JemtI'm working on a little shell script that makes it easier for me to switch network profiles in Ubuntu. Is it possible to set a network interface to obtain the IP itself using a console program (ie ifconfig) ?05:15
CarinArri've been considering switching to irsii, but i've been using epic for 7 years now and i'm stuck in a rut05:15
ejofeethis may be some sort of a weird question, but is there any app which ensures a maximum sound volume per account? (some users on my computer tend to disturb my neighbors with their music.)05:15
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NgJemt: you can do "dhclient eth0" or similar05:16
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seliniumintero, Do you know if there is a way of editting the Live DIsc to auto boot in persistance modE?05:16
NgCarinArr: do it! :)05:16
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CarinArrng, just the idea of being completely helpless and getting irate over simple things like swapping windows again, doesn't appeal to me;)05:16
JemtNg: Thanks alot :)05:17
brennerToba|BSD: the people in #xchat are great: ctrl+pgup/pgdn05:17
_martin_v_I have ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installed - how do I upgrade to the newest version?05:17
Ng!upgrade05:17
ubotuThe guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade05:17
JemtNg: Will it also resolve nameservers and gateway ?05:17
Ng_martin_v_: ^^05:17
_martin_v_thanx05:17
NgJemt: if they are provided by the dhcp server, it should do, yes05:17
JemtNg: Great - thanks again :)05:17
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NgCarinArr: hehe05:18
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gnudreamerDoes totem have any eq availaibe05:19
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:19
StMdebug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode05:19
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wermutHow can I disable that network interfaces are activated at bootup?05:19
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axisys_hi all05:19
Ngwermut: the network config lets you select whether an interface is enabled on boot05:19
etxealgun espaol?05:19
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interoselinium: i guess you have to write 'persistent' each time you boot. maybe it will be changed in the final release. you can file a wishlist bug if you want the feature though05:19
axisys_anyone know of a good irc or web source to freshen up my linux administration skills05:20
tristanback05:20
wermutNg: Which file do I have to edit?05:20
etxee05:20
Ngwermut: I meant the network config program, but you can remove the "auto" lines from /etc/network/interfaces if you want to do it by hand05:20
axisys_more of a "Sr. linux Admin" skills05:20
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tristanI'd like to know how can I completely remove gnome : I mean : dependencies not used by kde, configuration files....05:20
gnudreamerSo Totem point to this irc channel for knowledge on it, anyone have any idea if totem has any equlization capabilities?05:21
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seliniumintero, Cheers :)05:21
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Nggnudreamer: afaik, it doesn't05:21
Alex_BOHELLO!I need libdvdcss, but i can't find the package.this is the first time that i can't find a package.can anybody help me'05:22
Alex_BO?05:22
soundrayNg, and the same thing ("auto" removal) can be done through network-conf?05:22
Ngtristan: try and find some low-level packages it all depends on, like libglib or libgtk205:22
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:22
StMdebug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode05:22
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Ngsoundray: well ish, you can disable a connection, which should do the same thing I think05:22
gnudreamerLame05:22
tristanIf I do sudo apt-get remove gnome, will it erase all my gnom settings and uninstall gnome?05:22
soundrayNg, I may be wrong, but in my experience, it gets re-enabled after reboot.05:23
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wermutNg: There is only a line saying "auto lo" (I use kubuntu by the way). The thing that bothers me is that ubuntu tries to "configure the network interfaces" at bootop and the dhclient continually attempts to connect. I want to do that only manually.05:23
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gnudreamerwishes mplayer weren't so buggy, and xmms played nicely with all formats05:23
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Ngsoundray: hmm, that sounds like a bug then05:23
captainredbeardhow do I check a hard drive for errors?05:23
Ngwermut: do not disable lo05:23
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Ngwermut: lo should be configured statically anyway. look for another interface that is configured with dhcp05:23
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deefziwhat terminal fonts do you prefer? (fixed width of course)05:23
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captainredbeardhow do I check a hard drive for errors?05:24
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gnudreamerWell does ALSA offer eq ability?05:24
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soundrayNg, oops, sorry, you were right. It does remove auto. I must have not closed it with okay previously.05:24
seishii want change the /home to other partition,  if i mount /dev/hda2 on /home, then copy the user directories to the 'new' /home, it works?05:25
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wermutNg: There are lines saying "iface ethx inet dhcp". Should I change them?05:25
soundraydeefzi, my favorite is Lucida Typewriter, closely followed by Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.05:26
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Ngwermut: there should be corresponding "auto ethx" lines, comment them out and it'll stop trying to raise the interface on boot05:26
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soundraycaptainredbeard, there is a program badblocks. It is optionally executed when you format a partition (-c option)05:27
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soundraytoo late.05:27
wermutNg: There are no "auto ethx" lines.05:27
Ngwermut: hmm, can you paste the contents to a pastebin please?05:27
soundrayWhat's the point asking a question when you can't wait 64 seconds for an answer. Ts.05:27
jrattnerAnyone ever set up AWSTATS from the repos before?05:28
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CarinArrawstats?05:29
CarinArroh yes..05:29
soundrayjrattner, what's the problem?05:29
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KenThedewhere do i go to get ubuntu sorce code05:29
CarinArri mean no, haven't done it.. just couldn't remember what awstats was until it clicked05:29
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jrattnerCarinArr, was there anything special you had to do to configure it for a one website setup? or soundray ?05:29
NgKenThede: "apt-get source packagename" if you just want the one, or the ftp server if you want everything05:29
_jasonubotu: tell seishi about partitionhome05:29
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soundrayjrattner, I've only got generic advice for you. Look in /usr/share/doc/awstats for README files, if you haven't already. This type of initial setup question is usually answered there.05:30
seishi_jason,  the ubuntu system is installed on /dev/hda1, reiserfs05:30
jrattnersoundray, I did look there, and there is a debian Readme, I was sure if that applied to the situation05:31
seishi_jason, the /dev/hda2 is reiserfs too05:31
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_jasonseishi: it should work, I haven't tried it with your particular setup but I followed that guide that ubotu gave you and it wored perfectly05:31
soundrayjrattner, it is very likely that it does apply.05:31
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axisys_looking for a simple explanation with examples on ipc/ipcs05:32
_martin_v_!!! MPHII05:32
ubotu_martin_v_: Did you get hit by a windmill?05:32
jrattnersoundray, ok sounds good05:32
_martin_v_MPHIII!?05:32
seishi_jason, ops, thanks05:32
wermut_Ng: Pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7328 (was disconnect for a minute, sorry).05:32
thgjerdei am trying to upload a lot of files to a samba server, but for some reason the hard drives goes bananas with reads and writes. the upload speed is 3.5 MB/s, i would expect at least 30 MB/s05:32
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trappistthgjerde: sounds like the upload is bottlenecking at disk i/o05:33
seishi_jason, sorry, i don't  know english =p05:33
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thgjerdetrappist, any sugestions how to fix it?05:34
soundraythgjerde, do you get 30 MB/s locally?05:34
thgjerdesoundray, yes05:34
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StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:34
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:34
StMdebug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode05:34
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Ngwermut_: ah, I think you want to comment out lines 12, 13 and 14, but I'm not 100% sure about that05:34
trappistthgjerde: you might consider upgrading samba or replacing the filesystem with something faster - also make sure dma is enabled on the hard drive05:35
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soundraythgjerde, have you checked network throughput with something else, say ftp or scp?05:35
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trappistyet more evidence that soundray is a thinker05:36
aeroraverhello can someone help me mounting a fat32 hd05:36
thgjerdesoundray, i can download at 30 MB/s05:36
pollomixcomo hago para escucjar musica en mp305:36
soundraytrappist, sorry, did I say something stupid?05:36
trappistpollomix: #ubuntu-es05:36
wermut_Ng: I will try to do so, thank you very much for your help.05:36
trappistsoundray: on the contrary05:36
axisys_still looking for a simple explanation with examples on ipc/ipcs05:36
thgjerdetrappist, samba is version 3.0.21a05:36
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trappistthgjerde: 3.x should be just fine there05:37
trappistthgjerde: what filesystem is on the disk?05:37
soundraythgjerde, is it two Linux machines, or is there Windows on one side?05:37
pollomixen donde lo escribo05:37
trappistthgjerde: also, are you uploading zillions of small files, or a few large ones?05:37
thgjerdetrappist, and there is at lest udma/100 on all disks , fs is xfs05:37
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pollomixes la primera vez que utilizo linux05:37
trappistpollomix: /join #ubuntu-es05:38
seashell11!spanish05:38
ubotuI guess spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda05:38
Myconid3can Ubuntu load my windows TTF fonts?05:38
thgjerdetrappist, some hunderd of files at 700MB each05:38
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thgjerdesoundray, one linux and one xp05:38
soundrayahh, sorry thgjerde, I'll leave you in the capable hands of trappist.05:38
tristanHOw can I completly reinstall gnome with all the library and default settings?05:38
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thgjerdesoundray, thanks for the help :)05:38
gnomefreakthe reinstall command?05:39
trappistthgjerde: I'm stumped.  I've seen it happen with lots of very small files, where the full potential of the pipe has to be figured out all over again with each file, but each part of your system looks pretty good05:39
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tombshi all05:39
tristangnomefreak : are you talking to me?05:40
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trappisttristan: you probably don't need to reinstall the libs unless you've REALLY been screwing around, but if you get rid of your ~/.gnome* directories you should get your default settings back05:40
gnomefreaki just cant remember if its install --reinstall or remove --reinstall05:40
evangeloshi can i talk to someone ??05:40
Yokaloshcall me an idiot but how do you upgrade from cd?05:40
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trappistMyconid3: yes05:40
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Dr_Willisevangelos,  you allready are. :P05:40
evangelosdr willis05:40
evangeloslisten05:40
tristantrappist : I really screwed it out05:40
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quad_how is it that I make my user a member of the root-group?05:40
deefzihas someone replaced ESD with ALSA?05:41
gnomefreakYokalosh: you dont need the cd to upgrade to the latest releas05:41
deefzii tried, but i can't get it working :-(05:41
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Yokaloshgnomefreak: what do i need to do then?05:41
evangelosi have an xga monitor and when i am running obuntu live cd it loads everything but i cant see anything...05:41
RawplayerRE05:41
gnomefreakYokalosh: what version to what version?05:41
tristanI cannot launch gnome session. I can choose it but after it doesn't launch. It might be because of nautilus05:41
Yokalosh5.04 - 5.1005:42
chalcedonygood morning :)05:42
tristanSo now, I installed KDE and want to make a new fresh install of gnome05:42
seashell11gnomefreak: its apt-get --reinstall05:42
quad_how is it that I make my user a member of the root-group?05:42
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gnomefreakubotu tell Yokalosh about upgrade05:42
gnomefreakty seashell1105:42
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thgjerdetrappist, i dont know if it matthers that the disks are set up in raid-505:42
Dr_Willisevangelos,  you are refering to a  fairly normal computer crt monitor? or a LCD one?05:42
Yokaloshaaah  cheers dude05:42
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evangeloslcd one05:42
TonInterHello all.05:42
gnomefreakYokalosh: read that its get instructions05:42
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tristanbut apt-get --reinstall does'nt reinstall library and so on05:43
quad_nm, found it...05:43
trappistthgjerde: that may very well matter.  software raid or hardware raid?05:43
Yokalosh:) will do05:43
chalcedony((( TonInter )))05:43
TonInter:)05:43
alainlucashow to get the date in the format YYMMDD with a command line ?05:43
thgjerdetrappist, software05:43
Dr_Willisevangelos,  may want to try a different live cd - the Ubuntu one - is not as up to date as say Knoppix.05:43
TonInterCan anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for Ubuntu ?05:43
Ngalainlucas: there's a command "date"05:43
trappistthgjerde: that could be your bottleneck, but of course it shouldn't be.  especially with xfs.05:43
tristanalainlucas : date05:43
Ngalainlucas: you can specify your own format05:43
Kenhello05:44
chalcedonyhi Ken :)05:44
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PuMpErNiCkLealainlucas: date --iso-8601 does approximately that05:44
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evangeloscan u suggest anything that can run with my obuntu live cd? where i can find knoppix?05:44
KenI wanted t o know where to get the ubuntu source code05:44
TonInterchalcedony, can you tell me wheer ?05:45
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TonInterwhere*05:45
gnomefreakhow do you restart gnome-panel?05:45
Dr_Willisevangelos,  the live cd's have dozens of boot time options - check the ubuntu wiki/forums for details.. same with Knoppix - they use about the same options. Google for knoppix05:45
chalcedonyit seems like there are a lot of questions ... and not a lot of people giving answers05:45
evangeloshow do i find wiki/forums?05:46
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gnomefreakchalcedony: thats not new05:46
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Kenhello!!!!!!!! I want to knowe where to go to get the ubuntu source code05:46
chalcedonygnomefreak: probably :)05:46
Dr_Willisevangelos,  googling for 'ubuntu wiki' :P or read the topic. it has the url.05:46
Myconid3Ken: its on the website05:46
PuMpErNiCkLeevangelos: www.ubuntuforums.org05:46
chalcedony:)05:46
aeroraverhello, can someone tell me to get full acces to a mounted vfat hd?05:46
TonInterMyconid3, do you have any idea where can I find bootable floppy disks for Ubuntu ?05:46
gnomefreakchalcedony: you have what over 600 people in here hard to keep track of them all :)05:46
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Dr_Willis!ntfs05:47
ubotumethinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK05:47
gnomefreakubotu tell aeroraver about fat05:47
trappistalainlucas: date +%y%m%d05:47
Dr_Willischeck that URL ubotu gave aeroraver .05:47
TonInter!fat3205:47
ubotuDownload and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions05:47
chalcedonygnomefreak: TonInter> Can anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for Ubuntu ?05:47
Hentai^XPget rid of the fat!05:47
Hentai^XPuse ext3fs05:47
Dr_Willischalcedony,  you mean bootable to do what? Install?05:47
gnomefreakchalcedony: i have never seen one05:47
TonInterDr_Willis, tes05:47
TonInteryes****05:47
Hentai^XPchalcedony there is none05:48
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Kenmsg/ kill05:48
BainWhat program do I have to use to change balance on my sound devices?  I can't seem to do it on any settings or program I have on my menus05:48
chalcedonyok TonInter i think that answers that question.. perhaps get a cd for another distro or get a friend to dl it.05:48
NgBain: right click on the volume applet on the panel and you can bring up a full volume mixer05:49
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iantechow do we download those automount ?05:49
TonInterchalcedony, I got two CD`s from Slackware05:49
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BainNg: I did that, it brings up only a mic/speaker volume with no balance options05:49
NgBain: there should be two sliders for stereo items, click on the little chain link beneath and you can adjust the volumes independently - ie adjust the balance05:50
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guapooalguien habla espaol05:50
Bainoh, duh05:50
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Nivko[-Away-] Hi05:50
PuMpErNiCkLe!es05:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.05:50
alainlucashow to gedit a file which name should be myfile-'date --iso-8601' ?05:50
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Bainsorry...i'm not used to that ;)05:50
chalcedonyty very much gnomefreak, Dr_Willis :)05:50
StMhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?05:50
StMdebug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode05:50
gnomefreakiantec: downloading should just be that it should be fairly straight foward but ive never been to that site myself05:50
gnomefreak!es05:50
Bainwindows has me programmed to look for a sideways slider05:50
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Nivkoif i do: sudo chgrp www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp        i dont got rights on the subdirs how i can get rights on the subdirs too?05:51
NgBain: np :)05:51
BainNg:thanks05:51
tarvidcould use some advice on handlilng gcc version conflict in dapper05:51
gnomefreaktarvid: what conflict?05:51
PuMpErNiCkLealainlucas: gedit myfile-`date --iso-8601` might do it05:51
Nivkoif i do: sudo chgrp www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp        i dont got rights on the subdirs how i can get rights on the subdirs too?05:51
obontuhey, i heard there's a way to close frozen apps by pressing 3 keys together, like alt+ctrl+del in windows, it's supposed to change the cursor into a skull and bones or something and then you click on a task and kill it, anyone has a clue?05:52
NgNivko: chgrp -R and chmod -R05:52
NgNivko: that does it recursively05:52
Nivkook05:52
alainlucasPuMpErNiCkLe: thanks05:52
tarvidgcc-4.0-base is 4.0.2-7ubuntu105:52
PuMpErNiCkLealainlucas: Let me know if it actually works :D05:52
trappistobontu: in kde it's ctrl-alt-esc, but you can always run xkill from the command line05:52
PuMpErNiCkLealainlucas: (It should, I've just never done it)05:52
iantecsorry but how do i use that because all my media files are in my windows partitions in my first hd05:52
Nivkosudo chgrp -R www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod -R g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp05:52
Nivko?05:52
tarvidgcc-4.0 is 4.0.1-4ubuntu905:52
obontuwhat about gnome?05:52
Nivkoye05:52
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Nivkothnx05:52
gnomefreakiantec: read the part of the file that says instructions05:52
obontunot such option in the gui?05:52
NgNivko: yes05:53
Nivkothnx05:53
tarvidgnomefreak, if I could back out gcc-4.0-base, i might be able to install gcc-4.005:54
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obontuanyway to kill a task in gnome? (not using the command line)05:55
NivkoNg:05:55
tarvidis this time for --force-overwrite?05:55
NivkoI'm configuring PHP.ini and what is the path of sendmail?05:56
Ngobontu: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor you can kill things with that05:56
NgNivko: /usr/sbin/sendmail05:56
NgNivko: you can find the paths of things with "which sendmail"05:56
Nivkook05:56
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Ngtarvid: your gcc-4.0-base is newer than the one in breezy, that's really quite bizarre - did you install it from elsewhere?06:00
iantecgnomefreak how do i save it....?06:00
tarvidthis is dapper and I don't know where in the several hundred updates that version got installed06:01
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Ngtarvid: oh06:01
Ngmeh ;)06:01
Avhallo?06:01
tarvidit is not the one currently available and if i apt-get remove too much stuff gets removed06:02
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TonInterCan anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for installation on VMware for Ubuntu ?06:02
et0Does anyone know a good program to read CDimages like .img files ?06:02
tarvidgcc-4.0-base appears to contain only /usr/share/doc files06:02
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tarvidet0, dd06:02
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et0its just called dd ?06:02
premhi all,06:03
MrPocketsis there a way to send files over a network in Ubuntu?06:03
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Nget0: do you mean you want to access a cd image file? or create one?06:03
premjust did a chroot as said in the ubuntu wiki .. getting an error "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file"06:03
et0Ng, to access one...something like deamon tools for windows06:03
tarvidet0, dd if=/dev/hdc of=filename.iso06:04
iantechow do i save this to the harddrive? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter06:04
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tarvidMrPockets, scp, ftp06:04
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Nget0: if it's just a regular iso you can do something like "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mnt/image" (you'll need to create the /mnt/image directory first)06:04
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Ngtarvid: he's trying to mount an image, not create one06:04
et0ahh, cool, thanks :)06:05
tarvidNg, he said read06:05
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ubuntuhi06:05
Ngtarvid: read can mean many things ;)06:06
et0tarvid, perhaps said wrong..ment use it like an dvd image or something like that06:06
ubuntui no speak english06:06
gnomefreakubuntu: what do you speak?06:06
ubuntuespanish06:06
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gnomefreak!es06:06
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.06:06
ubuntuok. thankyou06:07
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arelehi06:08
tarvidet0, the question is what do you have and what exactly do you want to do with it06:08
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et0tarvid, serveral CD images, .img files, that I'd like to access..movies, dvd images and such06:09
et0mostly movies06:09
ktogiasHi, does anybody know where emblems and notes associated to a file are kept by nautilus? I would like to be able to transfer a file with it's nautilus notes and emblems to another machine using a floppy disk/usb removable storage/network share....06:09
PuMpErNiCkLehmm06:10
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TonInterCan anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for installation on VMware for Ubuntu ? ? :)06:10
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iantecgot it thanks.... sorry for the noob questions:)06:11
gnomefreakTonInter: i dont think you can you can try to make one tho if your so inclined06:11
glaciousDapper is supposed to be released in April, correct?  (the non-beta)06:12
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PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: yup06:12
glaciousis it easy to upgrade from 5.x to 6.x when it comes out?06:12
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: Yeah... apt-get dist-upgrade is the command.06:12
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TonIntergnomefreak, how ? :)06:12
glaciousi'm running dapper on my desktop because 5.x doesn't support my SATA @ install, i like it so much i want a stable version on my laptop, so i figured i can do 5.x, and upgrade to 6.x06:12
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gnomefreakTonInter: if i knew i would tell you :(06:12
glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: wow, excellent.  then 'bam', it's all 6.x when it comes out.  even the kernel?  or do you manually recompile that?06:13
iantecwhen i use the auto mounter can i rename the partitions ? instead of being hda1 hda2 and etc? will it cause any problems?06:13
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: Nope, that'll take care of everything.06:13
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glaciousPuMpErNiCkLe: wow, thats amazing.06:13
PuMpErNiCkLeglacious: Gotta love apt. :)06:13
thgjerdeTonInter, cant you use a bootable cd?06:13
TonInterYeah, I can.06:14
TonInterBut I don`t have one.06:14
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mirkashive installed ubuntu on P1 166mhz with VX pro motherboard but i cant configure mouse which is serial06:14
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gnomefreakall the rooms stopped :(06:16
trappistyeah, so did the channels06:16
glacioushow well do games run in Ubuntu as compared to XP?  things like HL2 etc...06:16
ortnerHow do i check what processes are running on my system?06:16
TonInterps06:17
trappistglacious: depends on the game.  I understand hl2 runs very decently in cedega.06:17
glaciousortner: ps aux06:17
gnomefreakps aux06:17
TonInterortner: ps, i think06:17
Ngortner: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor can show you a full list, or ps as others are suggesting :)06:17
gnomefreaklmao06:17
TonInter:()06:17
TonInter:)*06:17
Myconid3whats t he default root password?06:17
gnomefreaktheres 4 ways pick you own method06:17
glaciousdamn, this channel is mad helpful =)06:17
NgMyconid3: there isn't one, it's disabled by default06:17
Ng!root06:17
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.06:17
redguy!tell Myconid3 about root06:17
trappistMyconid3: disabled06:17
redguy!tell Myconid3 about sudo06:17
Myconid3gotchya.06:17
PuMpErNiCkLewhoa06:18
PuMpErNiCkLeMyconid3 got bot-flooded O_o06:18
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Myconid3I know what sudo is :~)06:18
redguy:-)06:18
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gnomefreakMyconid3: if you didnt before you do now lol06:20
Myconid3:)06:20
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Troglodytis there a linux program that will open MS publisher .pub files?06:21
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gnomefreako?06:22
glaciousdoes Cedega put on a large overhead?06:22
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gnomefreakOOo?06:22
Troglodytneg. won't do them06:22
axisys_how to i print list of all installed pkgs?06:22
Ngaxisys_: dpkg -l06:22
NgTroglodyt: not afaik06:22
axisys_Ng: cool thnx06:22
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axisys_Ng: whats the `ii' or `rc' stands for06:23
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gnomefreakonly one issue with that command you cant scroll the whole list :(06:23
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tRSShow can I edit my fstab so that everytime I login, it automatically mounts a windows share from the network?06:24
PuMpErNiCkLegnomefreak: you could pipe it to 'less'06:24
Ngaxisys_: if you do "dpkg -l | more" the first few lines explain what each of the columns means06:24
Ngaxisys_: (the lines starting Desired, Status and Err)06:24
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noddabaIs there a way to attach "meta data" to a file, similar to the EXIF stuff on images?  I thought of ACL, but it looks like that's just to add additional permissions... ?06:25
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trappistnoddaba: depends on the file06:25
axisys_Ng: that is what I did.. but not explaining in the header06:25
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noddabatrappist, a tarball to be specific.  i thought there were some utilities out there that could do that.  can't remember if I read it in linux journal or linux mag.06:26
Ngaxisys_: ii means the Desired status is "Install" (ie something has told apt to install the package) and the actual Status is Installed because the package is installed06:26
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trappistnoddaba: dunno if gnu tar supports that or not06:26
Ngaxisys_: rc means Desired=Remove Status=Config-files (ie it has been removed, but some config files have yet to be purged)06:26
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gogogog54hello06:27
gogogog54i need a package for routing and manipulating audio from/to multiple06:28
gogogog54input/output sources06:28
axisys_Ng: now i follow .. thnx06:28
Myconid3um06:28
Myconid3gogogog54: whats hard about that?06:28
gogogog54nothing06:29
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gogogog54thought you might be able to save me some time06:29
jariep1_can somebody help me out with XAMPP?06:29
Myconid3cant you just use cat and tee?06:30
jariep1_how do you remove the password in XAMPP?06:30
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jariep1_DR_Willis, XAMPP LAMPP is a Apache/MySQL PHP installation package06:31
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Myconid3oh jesus06:31
Blippeno!06:32
Myconid3What the hell is LAMPP06:32
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Dr_Willis:)06:32
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Myconid3Why isnt it LAMX?06:32
onekillhello everyone06:32
UTD|HawkLinux Apache Mysql PHP P..mhhh06:32
Myconid3or.. LAMP*06:32
Dr_Willisperl :P06:32
UTD|Hawkyes06:32
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Ngjariep1_: ubuntu provides separate apache/mysql/php packages, if you're having problems with xampp I suggest contacting them ;)06:33
onekillanyone know how to fix the mouse jumping around when using a KVM?06:33
jrattnerIf you have a DMZ enabler and pointing to host, can you view that host from within the network?06:33
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RobNychttp://julien.danjou.info/article-apt-build.html06:33
agletI'm trying to get msttcorefonts installed on Breezy; I've uncommented everything in /etc/apt/sources.list but I still don't see the package... where can I find it?06:33
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gnomefreakubotu tell aglet about fonts06:33
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Ngaglet: you probably need to add multiverse in06:33
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TobiXHi06:34
jariep1_Ng, ok, was just wondering because kkathman recommended XAMPP, thought he could help06:34
thgjerdeonekill, dont use the auto detect mouse protocol06:34
agletNg: done that; gnomefreak: ta06:34
onekillcan you explain?06:34
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agletgnomefreak, I've enabled the multiverse & universe repos, as I said in my question, & I still don't see the package06:35
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thgjerdeonekill, somewhere in your xorg.conf there is a mouse section, you want to change the driver from auto to something like PS/206:35
Dr_Willis!fonts06:35
ubotusomebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto06:35
soundraythgjerde, were you able to trace your throughput problem?06:36
thgjerdesoundray, i came to the conclution that raid was the most likley preblem, but no fix :(06:36
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agletDr_Willis, thanks, I've had a look at that page, have followed the instructions, and I still can't see the msttcorefonts package06:38
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TobiXDoes the NetworkManager in Breezy work? Does it interfere with the Ubuntu network configuration tool?06:39
Dr_Willisaglet,  may need to restart X or the font server.. Ive got them all installed - but i dont recall any problems.06:39
jrattnerTobiX, no its great I use it I love it :006:40
Dr_Willisaglet,  how are you trying to 'see' the mstcorefonts?06:40
soundraythgjerde, if you had full throughput locally and no network bottleneck, this sounds like something that samba developers should know about.06:40
agletDr_Willis, apt-cache search msttcorefonts06:40
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soundraythgjerde, at least I would consider it worth looking on some samba forum or maillist.06:40
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Ngaglet: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin06:40
TobiXjrattner: That sounds as if I could make my sister happy with it :)06:40
agletNg, pastebin..?06:40
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Dr_Willisaglet,  so they Seem to install? or are you saying you cant even find the package TO install?06:41
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thgjerdesoundray, ok, ill look again06:41
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Ng!pastebin06:41
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:41
agletDr_Willis, can't find the package at all06:41
Dr_Willis!Info msttcorefonts06:41
ubotumsttcorefonts: has nothing about Info06:41
soundraythgjerde, just my 2c -- sorry no better advice. I can imagine it's a pain if you have to transfer that amount of data.06:41
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agletNg, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/733006:42
Dr_Willisaglet,  it may be that name is wrong.06:42
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Dr_Willisor been changed.06:42
soundrayDr_Willis, no, msttcorefonts is correct.06:42
thgjerdesoundray, thank you for trying to help :)06:42
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Blippewhy apt-build instead of apt-get? minimal performance-boost?06:43
Ngaglet: as I said, you need to enable more multiverse stuff - you only have it on the breezy-backports lines at the moment06:43
Dr_Willismsttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts06:43
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agletuhuh, so what's the deb line for the remainder of the multiverse?06:43
Ng!easysource06:43
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:43
Ngaglet: ^^ that will help you build a useful sources.list06:43
agletooh, nice06:43
Ngimho the default one is bobbins and should be made *far* clearer :/06:44
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novaahi all .. couldt find anything related on the net: after booting and loging into breezy (gnome, X86) there was an error: icon could not be found ... the situation now is, that there is no icon for "trash", "show desktop", folders files and in "places". any idea how to fix this ?06:44
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gnomefreaknovaa: dapper?06:44
novaagnomefreak: nope, breezy06:44
gnomefreakhmmmmmm i only had that issue on dapper :(06:45
Dr_Willisheh - trying to test out Dapper here..  but for some odd reason GRUB isent working right. :( Off to the Forums with me!06:45
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gnomefreakDr_Willis: dual booting off same hd?06:46
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  nope.06:46
christian_hey !06:46
gnomefreakwhy is it i only have these problems :(06:46
gnomefreakdont answer that06:46
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  just dapper install to a new 300gb hd. Grubs hanging at the 'stage 1.5' thing.06:46
christian_how can i see the list of packages on APT-GET ??06:46
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Ngchristian_: packages.ubuntu.com06:47
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agletNg: thanks, got em from http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse06:47
Ng:)06:47
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soundraychristian_, with synaptic06:47
agletyou're right about the default sources.list being bobbins06:47
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gnomefreaknot real sure Dr_Willis  i got an error 18 i think it was when i used dapper to resize hd06:48
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agletfirst hour or 2 on ubuntu is quite pleasing, well done any developers lurking about06:48
christian_ok let me try06:48
ph8hey guys, i'm trying to get bluetooth working on my build using wiki/BluetoothSetup06:48
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  :P not my issue.. googling for it now. lol06:48
novaai looked up the directory where gnome was looking for the icons and copied it from /usr/share/icons/default/$cant_remember to where the error messsage told me it was looking for (extra 4 mb, who cares): but the problem persists06:48
gnomefreakDr_Willis: did you check malone?06:48
ph8when i set my device to discoverable and hidd --search it says 'Searching..' then goes back to prompt, as oppose to 'Searching..' followed by 'No devices found' - any ideas what's going wrong?06:48
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Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  heres an interesting poste. :P about how it may be checking the floppy drive which is set to boot..06:49
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  lets try disabling the floppy - lol.06:49
Dr_Willisgnomefreak,  bbl06:49
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christian_hum!06:49
christian_cool! i thought that synaptic show only the instaled packages06:50
christian_thanks!06:50
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novaai would love to fix this icon issue06:50
soundraynovaa, is this a fresh install?06:51
novaasoundray: nearly, some weeks old06:51
soundraynovaa, did you have the problem from the beginning?06:51
novaasoundray: nope, didnt do anything to themes or icons, all i remember is a kernel image update this morning06:52
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raysiel_ciao06:53
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novaais there a way to replace a gnome-package to get rid of this "missing icon problem" ?06:53
soundraynovaa, this is a shot in the dark, but try to reinstall gnome-themes.06:53
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ph8hey guys, i'm trying to get bluetooth working on my build using wiki/BluetoothSetup06:54
ph8when i set my device to discoverable and hidd --search it says 'Searching..' then goes back to prompt, as oppose to 'Searching..' followed by 'No devices found' - any ideas what's going wrong?06:54
novaasoundray: any options i have to add for apt-get ? it says gnome-themes is already the newest06:54
soundraynovaa, --reinstall06:54
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simakHow to I tar a dir into a .zip for windows?06:55
novaasoundray: thx, brb06:55
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Kevinhello06:57
simakKevin, hello06:57
Kevinhow are you?06:58
soundraysimak, I don't think you can use zip in a pipe, so you have to untar the file and zip it afterwards. Most archivers for Windows, e.g. WinZip, can handle tar files, though.06:58
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novaaahm, still same problem06:58
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Kevinso everybody uses ubuntu linux in here?06:58
DaSkreechI'm having a problem with java in Frefox06:58
soundraynovaaa, okay, I'll look around for another package that may be worth reinstalling.06:58
simaksoundray, I have to send this zip into a bot on a server ... you think the zip decoder can handle tars?  I'll have to try06:58
simakKevin, this is the support channel.06:59
Kevindaskreech, what version of firefox?06:59
DaSkreechon one site it crashes the browser06:59
simakKevin, you should be on #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat.06:59
DaSkreechKevin: Goodl old 1.0.706:59
soundraysimak, well, in that case it's rather unlikely.06:59
Kevinodd06:59
novaaasoundray: may i try copying /usr/share/icons from another breezy machine ?06:59
Kevini use 1.506:59
Kevinand java doesnt work06:59
DaSkreechRight :-)06:59
simaksoundray, I'll try and let you know.  It's just a dumb bot.06:59
Kevinbut in 1.0.7 it did06:59
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Kevini just use opera when i want java and it works well07:00
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xoredwhere do i get thunderbird from the sources ?07:00
moodogEvening all.07:00
soundraynovaaa, sure, it probably won't break anything if you're careful with permissions.07:00
DaSkreechYeah but I'd like to find out if there is an issue with Blackdwon07:00
DaSkreechDown even07:01
soundraynovaaa, have you played with the themes setting to try and fix the problem?07:01
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novaaasoundray: yes ... but it does not change the icon set nor restores the standard icons07:02
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novaaasoundray: interesting thing is, that the preview icon for the userdefined theme in the theme properties window gives a correct preview07:03
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soundraynovaaa, gnome-icon-theme could be another guilty package.07:03
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thefamousnomohello people!07:03
thefamousnomotrying to troubleshoot a few issues here...07:03
soundraynovaaa, not sure how this is implemented, though. It could be just a bitmap...07:04
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thefamousnomois anyone having difficulty accessing www.ubuntuforums.org?07:04
d5dqis this channel to ask help questions?07:04
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soundraynovaaa, is the problem the same if you log in with another username?07:04
soundrayd5dq, yes, if they are related to Ubuntu.07:05
d5dqis this channel for asking help questions about ubuntu?07:05
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seroxatI just installed ubuntu and i cant get into X, it says "Monitor not detected"07:05
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thefamousnomod5dq: i believe so man!07:05
seroxat:(07:05
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thefamousnomocan anyone confirm the forums are down?07:05
simakcan I make a zip with tar?07:05
d5dqi can't access the ubuntu forums07:06
Myconid3simak: no07:06
Myconid3simak: use zip07:06
glaciousdo wireless ad-hoc networks forward packets to eachother?  like if a node in the middle could see the ones on either side, it'd forward packets between them so they can communicate?07:06
simakMyconid3, how about gzip?07:06
seroxatAnyone here uses an LCD monitor with ubuntu?07:06
ccookesimak: no, thay are different programs.07:06
Myconid3simak: NO. use zip.07:06
glaciousor do all nodes in ad-hoc wireless need to see eachother directly to communicate?07:06
soundraythefamousnomo, not responding here, either.07:06
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Myconid3glacious: I believe it is direct07:06
novaaasoundray: ill try07:06
seroxat-.-07:06
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d5dqhow would i get ubuntu to execute "/home/admin/ventrilo/ventrilo_srv -d07:06
d5dq" each time the system is booted?07:06
Myconid3glacious: ad-hoc does not do meshing07:06
thefamousnomocheers guys, last two days after 4pm...07:07
seroxat.07:07
glaciousMyconid3: so all nodes need to see eachother, theres no forwarding/routing through other wireless nodes.07:07
thefamousnomothanx again!07:07
glaciousMyconid3: thank you.07:07
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seroxatI just installed ubuntu and i cant get into X, it says "Monitor not detected" :/07:07
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DaSkreechDoes anyone use 1.0.7 and the java provided in Breezy instaled?07:07
soundrayseroxat, hold on...07:07
DaSkreechinstalled07:08
seroxatim using a lcd monitor via DVI if that matters..07:08
soundrayd5dq, add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh07:08
d5dqcool07:08
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novaaasoundray: new user fixed it07:08
soundrayseroxat, does it display the console login?07:08
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seroxatsoundray: yes but shortly after the error messege comes07:09
seroxatit tries to start it so the screen blanks a few times before07:09
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seroxatKnoppix works just fine..07:09
DaSkreechhttp://www.mathsnet.net/algebra/index.html07:09
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setuidI just did a clean Hoary install, started up X, GNOME'y things start to load, and then X just sits there for about 20 minutes on the "Nautilus" part when its loading in the little progress panel.07:10
setuidWtf?07:10
Alek35skmI'm new on ubuntu, can I ask one question?07:10
seroxatno idea what to do now.. im using irssi from console now lol07:10
soundraynovaaa, I think the easiest way to fix it, then, is to delete your Gnome configuration. Unless you've put a lot of work in the panel setup etc.07:10
soundrayseroxat, can you log in on the text console?07:10
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, Always.07:10
seroxatsoundray: yep07:10
Alek35skm:-)07:10
seroxatim logged in now :)07:10
DaSkreechAlek35skm: Only one though07:10
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soundrayseroxat, and chatting on it, or on an extra machine?07:10
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seroxatsoundray: this is my main and only machine.07:11
tonyyarussoDaSkreech, I would have been in a heap of trouble...07:11
novaaasoundray: nope ... the setup is nearly what you get out  of the box. what exactly do i have to copy (permissions*?*) ?07:11
setuidAnyone?07:11
DaSkreechtonyyarusso: For?07:11
soundrayseroxat, what does ddcprobe give you? (Use pastebin if output is long)07:11
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Alek35skmhot to add codec pack here.. i found mplayer but for new user have some difficulties with it.. have some videos with unsupported codec pack07:12
seroxatsoundray: i cant paste or anything07:12
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seroxatbut i will try07:12
tonyyarussoDaSkreech, If I only got one question.07:12
seroxathmm how does one exit IRSSI?07:12
bolrod/quit07:12
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, What type of videos?07:12
damien82;)07:12
Alek35skmgimp video demos07:12
novaaasetuid: maybe start X with verbosity and find out what exactly sits ?07:12
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setuidI just dropped my ~/.xinitrc into $HOME from a backup, now its working... silly X07:13
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, What file type?07:13
Alek35skmfound somewhere07:13
Alek35skm.avi07:13
Kevini have a question07:13
Drac[Server] I can mount my Laptop's DVD drive without problems, but I can't copy files off of it. cp returns "input/output error"   What's the problem? I'm trying to mount an ordinary CD-RW.07:13
soundraynovaaa, you have to log out of X and run on a console or in failsafe mode. Then you should move the .gnome, .gnome2, .gconf, .gconfd and .gnome2_private directories to a backup location. They will be recreated if you log into gnome again.07:13
Kevinhow do i use yahoo launch with firefox 1.5?07:14
Alek35skmthey don't open with totem (have breeze)07:14
MeWhOeLsE_Hay... jsut wondering if anyone is having trouble accessing the ubuntu repositories... I'm geting extreamely slow connection (200B/s) and its gets to about 38% then just fails on most of the lists... I've not even got to downloading the packages yet... lol07:14
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DaSkreechMeWhOeLsE_: Nope just did a full upgrade07:14
soundrayseroxat, you can always download the pastebin script from http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin and send a file to pastebin with it.07:14
MeWhOeLsE_oh well... hmm... weird07:14
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soundrayseroxat, /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting to see.07:15
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tonyyarussoAlek35skm, I believe that's a container, could be anything.  Probably a restricted format issue, which wouldn't be fixed with Ubuntu packages.07:15
Alek35skmsomething about Installing FFmpeg libavcodec/libavutil/libavformat07:15
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Drac[Server] Anyone? I can't seem to mount any removable media on this laptop. Why?07:15
Kevini was wondering how that a person would watch yahoo music videos and such which are internet explorer only, on ubuntu07:15
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novaaasoundray: ill do so. thnx for your help07:15
soundraynovaaa, hope you get it fixed.07:15
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, (You still use Totem with Firefox?)07:16
robotgeekKevin: it is possible to do so on firefox in linux, and without the ads07:16
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Kevini tried the thing on the forums07:16
Kevinbut it was for 1.0.707:16
Alek35skmsome new player? with built in codecs? with easysest apt-get install07:16
Alek35skm:-)07:16
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DaSkreechvlc?07:16
Alek35skmyes totem with firefox07:17
robotgeekno, firefox + mplayer + w32codecs + mplayer plugin + greasemonkey + relevant script07:17
soundrayDrac[Server] , how are you trying to mount, and do you get any errors?07:17
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, Partially.  Restricted format codecs can not be provided by Ubuntu through apt for legal reasons.  I use mplayer, with w32codecs, available either through apt with PLF repos, or !restrictedformats.07:17
olyhi, is there currently issues with dapper drake flight 3 networking when i try and grab an ip with dhclient eth1, i get dhcp-class-identifier this happens on wired and wireless07:17
tonyyarussorobotgeek, Couldn't you get rid of the ads with just the adblock extension?07:18
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Dr_Willisoly:  dapper seems to have a lot of issues :P07:18
tonyyarussoDoes elinks support javascript?07:18
robotgeektonyyarusso: i dunno, never acutally installed flash07:18
olylol, yeah but was not sue if its known about or if its worth reporting07:18
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Kevinwhen i went to the topic of how to play launch in firefox, it has an extension for firefox, but it's for firefox 1.0.7. I'm using firefox 1.507:19
olyi would think it is known, does not look specific to a network card or anything07:19
soundrayDr_Willis, that's in the nature of beta software.07:19
tonyyarussorobotgeek, Why would you need flash?07:19
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Dr_Willisoly:  may want to check the forum on dapper.  I just now managed to get the thing booting right.07:19
Alek35skmi think that i need this one, but do not know how to install them  FFmpeg (already downloaded)07:19
soundrayoly, there aren't any dapper problems worth reporting *here*.07:19
Drac[Server] soundray, I'm mounting as root, and I don't get errors mounting with "auto", but I can't copy anything. cp returns "input/output" error.07:19
robotgeekKevin: greasemonkey works fine in 1.5 (AFAIK), so you only need the updated script07:20
olyi had planned to but my main puter is having issues with the ubuntuforums currently :p07:20
soundrayDrac[Server] , does this happen with all media?07:20
DaSkreechIs it possible to use the Install CD as a rescue CD?07:20
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Kevinok thanks robotgeek07:20
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Dr_WillisUbuntu Forums seems to be having some issues lately as well.07:20
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olywill try it again later07:20
olylol07:20
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robotgeektonyyarusso: exactly, i never installed it07:20
tonyyarussoDaSkreech, I believe you just type "rescue" as the installation type.07:20
Drac[Server] soundray, yes, anything removable it seems. The floppy won't mount, and I can't copy from any CDs.07:21
tonyyarussorobotgeek, My question being, how did we even get on the topic of flash?07:21
Alek35skmcan you give me some link for pdf file for basic knowledge of ubuntu?07:21
DaSkreechtonyyarusso: Of course! Duh!07:21
soundrayDrac[Server] , not mounting and I/O errors are two different kettle of fish though.07:21
tonyyarussoAlek35skm, I don't know if there is one, but the wiki is your friend.07:21
robotgeektonyyarusso: i dunno, ads on yahoo? offtopic by now :)07:21
DaSkreechgrub threw a Error 18 on attempt to load07:21
Kevini have a question also. i have a logitech 5.1 setup. the front speakers and sub work, i would like to have stereo surround so i can use all the speakers. is this possible? im using ubuntu breezy07:21
Drac[Server] soundray, I can browse the CD and run stuff off of it, and audio CDs work. It's not really a mounting error so much as it is a copying error.07:21
tonyyarussorobotgeek, Oh well.07:22
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soundrayDrac[Server] , does it happen with every file you try to cp?07:23
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Kevini have a question also. i have a logitech 5.1 setup. the front speakers and sub work, i would like to have stereo surround so i can use all the speakers. is this possible? im using ubuntu breezy07:24
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tonyyarussoEither something changed with Xanga or Firefox, because protected posts are showing up correctly now.  Yay for somebody.07:25
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robotgeek*robotgeek for president*07:26
tonyyarussorobotgeek, Of where?07:26
naliothrobotgeek: politics in #ubuntu-offtopic please07:26
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robotgeeknalioth: sorry07:26
PavixAnyone know how I could mount my mp3 player. It connects via USB cable07:27
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Drac[Server] soundray, yes, and now I realize that it cannot read the files. It sees them, but not correctly.07:27
DaSkreechnalioth: Hey07:27
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DaSkreechPavix: Which laer?07:27
DaSkreechplayer?07:28
Pavixnm, it automouted07:28
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soundrayDrac[Server] , does it matter whether you sudo or not?07:28
DaSkreechPavix: Much better :-)07:28
PavixDaSkreech: MobiBLU07:28
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DaSkreechSo what are my options if grub cannot recognize the hard drive?07:28
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tonyyarussoDaSkreech, Play with it until it does.  Mine didn't realize that /boot was it's own partition, but when I edited the root line it was happy.07:29
tonyyarussoAnyone with a ThinkPad: What kind of battery life do you get?07:29
DaSkreechtonyyarusso: But it knew the hard drive was there?07:29
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tonyyarussoDaSkreech, Well yeah.  What exactly is it telling you?07:30
Drac[Server] soundray, I haven't tried sudo. It's an offline system so I set the root password. I'm doing this as root.07:30
Drac[Server] soundray, actually, I think I tried it as sudo, too.07:30
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DaSkreechSearching For BIOS Hard Drives07:30
DaSkreechError opening Trminal07:30
MeWhOeLsEI'm wondering if someone can help me. I'm a total linux n00b. Just installed ubuntu... I've got webaccess and IRC and stuff... In fact every internet related thing is fine... but forsoem reason I can't access teh repositories and when I do... tis extreamly slow and seems to be very intermittant... can anyone give me any pointer on how to recify this?07:30
DaSkreechterminal07:31
DaSkreechthis is at a promt07:31
tonyyarussoDaSkreech, Oh, that's different than my problem.07:31
DaSkreechOn boot up it says trying to load GRUB: Error 1807:31
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DaSkreechYah :-)07:31
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tonyyarussoDaSkreech, And unfortunately I can't stick around to find out more, because I just realized what time it is and I have to catch a bus to get to class.  Sorry, and good luck.07:31
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TheMagusis there an installion guide to ubuntu that I could print out?07:31
MrPocketswhen im plauing mysic via XMMS, and a sound like an Ubuntu or GAIM sound plays, the music gets all screatchy07:32
MrPocketsis this fixable?07:32
tavathlondoes anyone here have any experience of GRUB error 17 and/or error 22? GRUB doesn't start, only gives these two messages (which one depends on whether the swap is first och last on the system disk, which is _not_ hda)07:32
Drac[Server] MrPockets, stop using OSS. :)07:32
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  theres not a lot to instlling it :P07:32
MrPocketswhats oss?07:32
robotgeektavathlon: i can give you a list of grub error codes07:32
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tavathlonrobotgeek; that would be great!07:33
TheMagusis it as easy as installing...let's say, windows XP?07:33
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  if you have a 2nd hard drive  and let Ubuntu installer partiotion it - its very easy07:33
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Dr_WillisTheMagus,  its about 10x faster to install then xp :P07:33
DaSkreechTheMagus: Easier07:33
tavathlonthemagus; almost easier  ;o)07:33
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  but everything has its own little issues.07:33
robotgeektavathlon: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656 (first link on google :)07:33
DaSkreechtavathlon: I just installed both07:33
TheMagusI was thinking of uninstalling winxp07:33
DaSkreechIt's easier07:33
TheMagusreformatting before installing linux is fine right?07:34
Falstiusif you include installing the office utilities, web browser, pdf stuff, etc it is easier than XP07:34
DaSkreechok But get used to Linu first07:34
steigweisquestion to english native speakers in here. Would you say that? "In order to apply for the Summer School, please send in a brief letter of motivation via e-mail to blabla@uni-koeln.de." Good style? Any corrections? plz query07:34
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  theres no need to 'reformat'07:34
Drac[Server] soundray: *poke*07:34
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TheMagusI want to get rid of windows xp though07:34
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  you will be 'refdisking' and totally whipeing out the hd. Or repartitioning them.07:34
MeWhOeLsETheMagnus - I installed XP... then used Partition magic to give me 20GB for linux... then isntalled ubuntu tehre07:34
PavixAnother quick question. I have a olympus digital cam that my folks gave me, there was a custom app that we could connect the camera to the serial port on my PC and download the pictures. Are there any apps that can get pics off a camera through serial ports?07:34
concept10steigweis, drop the plz07:34
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DaSkreechok trying a boot partition07:35
steigweisconcept10, thx07:35
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DaSkreechTheMagus: If you want to e rid of XP make sure you back up your data07:35
i60TheMagus, here's a video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu+install07:35
tavathlonrobotgeek; thanx!  =)07:35
DaSkreechThen go right ahead07:35
Dr_WillisTheMagus,  you are thinking in windows terms :P thers no need to reformat a windowsd drive - since linux will then re-reformat it for linux file system07:35
DaSkreechThe install has an otion to format eerything07:35
TheMagushmmm07:36
soundrayDrac[Server] , eek!07:36
TheMagusI see07:36
TheMagusI guess I'll watch that video07:36
TheMagusthanks DaSkreech07:36
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concept10why do they give a high five on that video? lol07:36
Drac[Server] soundray: Hehe. Anyway, any idea? I can't read the files, but I can see them.07:37
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DaSkreechhi skippy07:37
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skippyaloha.  Has anyone successfully compiled Avidemux on Breezy?  I'm getting errors, and could use some help.   http://pastebin.com/51169507:37
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DaSkreechTheMagus: Sure07:37
=== concept10 We dual boot Linux. Whoohoo high five!
skippyhi DaSkreech07:37
DaSkreechTheMagus: Dont forget to back up your data!!!07:37
tavathlonrobotgeek; do you know anything else about those errors? I found out that GRUB doesn't recognize the filesystem of the partition. I suppose that means the filesystem of where grub is, but I don't understand - it works perfect on my computer, but not om my friends...07:37
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soundrayDrac[Server] , I/O errors are usually to do with media surface or other hardware errors.07:37
TheMagusyes, my data is already backed up07:38
DaSkreechTheMagus: Good to go07:38
robotgeektavathlon: no, i got a x86 computer only last week. and i don't dual boot also07:38
infoBhello, what is the most common text based browser (i need a way not to leave console)?07:38
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skippyinfoB: lynx or links07:38
tavathlonrobotgeek; oki, thanks anyway!07:38
skippyinfoB: or w3m07:38
soundrayDrac[Server] , did you say you get them on every data CD/DVD?07:38
TheMaguswhat does that video mean by "hose" your computer?07:38
DaSkreechso back to my Firefox + Java is screwed question07:38
jrattner1What is the Mail Exchanger, in an MX record?07:38
DaSkreechTheMagus: Lose all your stuff?07:39
TheMagusso they don't literally mean spray it with a hose then? :p07:39
infoBskippy, is there anyone installed with ubuntu by default?07:39
DaSkreechAnyone have 1.0.7 and the Breezy java installed?07:39
concept10TheMagus, they are just being funny07:39
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ubuntu!tell me about ntfs07:39
skippyinfoB: no clue.  I'm not at my Ubuntu machine.07:39
DaSkreechTheMagus: Nope :-) Though that would have the same effect ;-)07:39
TheMagusyeah, I wish they'd stop trying to be funny and get to the point :p07:39
poimenhello I work as a financial analist for Primerica and Primerica offers me a arrange of tools only availible for Windows   I am currently a linux user and lover! I installed crossover office and the programs did not work... I think the only why I have is vmware but I have a issue I need to use a printer I have a usb one and when I plug it in into my machine windows on vmware install it and it works but it works untill the printer driver auto load on linux a07:39
poimennd it screw ups.07:39
poimensomeone kwons how to help me?07:39
DaSkreechubotu: tell ubuntu about ntfs07:39
ubuntuDaSkreech, thanks07:40
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i60concept10 i high-five my Mum every time i tell her the same thing - nothing wrong with that!07:40
Drac[Server] soundray: So far. This CD is slightly corrupted, but it reads okay in my newer DVD drive in my other computer. Should this matter? The CD-RWs can't burn perfectly, and they're all I have left.07:40
concept10i60, heh :)07:40
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ubuntuwhat is the recover grub factiod07:41
i60:D07:41
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belkinhi all07:41
Elsan_How can I change the maximum amount of apt cache? It's currently taking lots of space...07:41
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soundrayDrac[Server] , is the drive itself removable? Maybe the connections is dodgy.07:41
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ubuntuElsan_, well you can adjust that in synaptic, that is the simplest way of doing it07:42
belkinits there any tool thats allows me to view all installed packages with description will be much better :) ?07:42
Elsan_ubuntu: How?07:42
skippybelkin: `dpkg -l` in a console07:42
ViViDi just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.12-10.25-386 to 2.6.12-10.26-386, and now the graphical boot shows the Xubuntu image...anyone know why it doesnt say Ubuntu anymore?07:42
Elsan_ubuntu: I see the option to delete only...07:42
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Drac[Server] soundray, it is.. That's possible, I suppose. The drive is removable in the sense that it slides out easily. Like I said, though, it can see the files just fine and has no trouble checking permissions and such on them. I just can't read the file contents... with anything.07:42
DShepherdViViD, I have had that issue for a while now.. I dont know why07:43
ubuntuElsan_, if you use settings preferences files07:43
Stormx2hey all =)07:43
ubuntuElsan_, within synaptic package manager07:43
DShepherddoes anyone know the answer to ViViD question? I would like to know too07:43
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belkinskippy that show me only the installed packages ?07:43
ViViDit seems to be related to the new version of the 2.6.12-10 kernel07:44
ubuntubelkin, you can set synaptic to show all files07:44
skippybelkin: I'm petty sure.07:44
ubuntusort by installed07:44
DShepherdViViD, no.. i think its due to the upgrade of any kernel. and you having xfce installed07:44
soundrayDrac[Server] , dodgy hardware. Find (someone with) a USB drive, and see if you still get those errors.07:44
ViViDbut i dont have xfce installed07:44
DShepherdViViD, its has happened to me and I havent upgraded to the new kernel yet07:45
ubuntuSeveas, the factoid for recovering grub seems to be gone07:45
belkinubuntu ahh synaptic its the graphic one isnt it ?07:45
DShepherdViViD, ah.. well I do... but this happened when I when to .2507:45
robotgeekubotu: tell ubuntu about recover07:45
ubunturobotgeek, thanks07:45
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alainlucasIs there a command to reduce the size of a PNG image by two ?07:45
ViViDanyone know where configuration options for the graphical boot process are?07:46
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ubunturobotgeek, I thhough that grub was the same factoid07:46
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robotgeekalainlucas: look at the package 'imagemagick' and the convert command07:46
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DaSkreechElsan_: Apt-get clean07:46
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Seveas!grub07:46
ubotuhttp://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting07:46
DaSkreechDShepherd: No one knows!!07:46
deefzi!tell deefzi about alsa07:47
ubuntuSeveas, thanks07:47
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DShepherdDaSkreech, why the world is not flat!!.. me neither07:47
belkinubuntu rocks man07:47
DShepherdDaSkreech, beats me07:47
koraman192.168.1.107:47
ubuntuSeveas, catch ya later07:47
DaSkreechDShepherd: What do you mean it isn't flat?07:47
Drac[Server] soundray, okay. I'll do that. Would this also account for the floppy not mounting? The whole thing may have been dropped at one point. It was given to me. An old Gateway.07:47
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ViViDDShepherd, try removing the packages xubuntu-artwork and/or xubuntu-artwork-usplash07:47
DShepherdDaSkreech, are you saying it is? :-O?07:47
DaSkreechWhere slackers hang out07:48
DaSkreechNo offense DShepherd :)07:48
soundrayDrac[Server] , does the not-mounting go with any error messages?07:48
ktogiasHi again,07:48
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Ottomanhi07:48
lilliputhello all07:48
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Nogimicsanyone know of a decent FTP Bouncer?07:48
DShepherdDaSkreech, ok slacker07:48
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Ottomanhas anyone been able to compile ndiswrapper with gcc 4.0?07:49
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ktogiasNautilus previews mp3 audio files when I leave the mouse pointer on them. but won't preview ogg files...07:49
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Drac[Server] soundray, that's the thing, it DOES mount. It just doesn't read at all. I shut the laptop off to clean the connections with alchohol, so I can't check.07:50
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Eszeniahi07:50
Eszeniais it possible to install ubuntu on a fc4 machine and have both distros?07:50
NogimicsAnyone know of an FTP Bouncer I can run on a shell pls?07:50
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Eszeniaor is a new partition necessary?07:50
DaSkreechDShepherd: So I think I figured it out amd it07:50
DaSkreechDShepherd: And it's a /boot partition07:50
MeWhOeLsEok... erm... really need help now... I've been trying to wrok out why synaptic can't access my net properly... everything works... I've even been able to update my repositories using "apt-get update" can anyone help me solve why this program can;t egt net access properly07:51
DaSkreechEszenia: Running at the same time or have a choice of booting one or the other?07:51
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Eszeniachoice ofeither07:51
Eszeniai want to see if i can get suspend to ram working in ubuntu07:51
DaSkreechMeWhOeLsE: Huh?07:51
Eszeniai cannot resume on my fc4 distro07:51
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quad_Does the highlight words in x-chat take wildcards?07:51
DShepherdDaSkreech, what are you talking about?07:51
DShepherdDaSkreech, fix what07:51
DShepherd?07:51
quad_Like, does the word quad* use the wildcard?07:52
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DaSkreechEszenia: Sure it requires a new partition though07:52
DaSkreechDShepherd: The Grub Error issue07:52
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Eszeniak07:52
CarinArr!repositories07:52
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource07:52
Eszeniahow much is a normal install?07:52
MeWhOeLsESynaptic can't et access to the net... and when it does its really crappy... and eveything else works fine07:52
Silent_alhas anyone here successfully printed with a HP720c on breezy ?07:52
Eszeniacan i do it in 800mb?07:52
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Eszeniai just want to determine if i can get suspend to ram working07:52
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DaSkreechEszenia: thought of using a Live Cd?07:53
DaSkreechhi Pa07:53
DaSkreechhi paul07:53
paul_hi07:53
Drac[Server] soundray, well, I can't clean these connections, they're too oddly shaped. Regardless.. um.. Yeah, it mounts, but it can't read it...07:53
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paul_iam new here07:53
deefzimy ALSA seems to be working and installed (atleast according to that alsamixer's working) but i can't get two soundchannels (i.e. fe. xmms & mplayer) playing same time? what's the problem?07:53
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Eszeniadoes livecd have suspend to ram?07:54
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soundrayDrac[Server] , the whole problem seems strange to me, but it really doesn't sound like there's any software thing you can fix.... unless perhap...07:54
penkoadhi all07:54
DaSkreechAIR the Live CD is he same as an Ubuntu installation07:54
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soundrayDrac[Server] , could it be IRQ related?07:54
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DaSkreechso Yeah I guess :-)07:54
paul_can someone tell me where i can find the resoucelist of ubuntu in Germany07:55
tavathlonanyone who knows how to solve GRUB error 17? (error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition07:55
tavathlonThis error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB)07:55
vanocan someone tell me how to add the -i (tcp/ip listen) flag to the postgresql config for an ubuntu install? I have been searching for hours and cannot find where to put it. Thanks07:55
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Eszeniaanyone know if livecd can do suspend to ram?07:55
Eszeniai was told knoppix dvd could not suspend to ram07:55
soundraytavathlon, sounds like you're trying to access a DOS extended partition.07:55
penkoadvano did u try /etc/init.d/pgsquel ?07:56
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CanadianSnowwho the hell took my name07:56
vanopenkoad nothing there .. it only calls start/stop/restart $VERSION07:56
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pmhelp! i think  i've got a virus!07:56
vanopenkoad I need to add it to the line where postmaster is called...07:56
penkoadof vourse vano07:57
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paul_excuse me, are there some one in Germany? who can tell me where to find the resoucelist in Germany07:57
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tavathlonsoundray; I'm not quite sure what that means, but there is winxp on hda already, and that's where we are trying to put grub - is that what you mean?07:57
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vanopenkoad but where is that place... I was looking for a place for "additional options" .. but cannot find anything07:57
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DaSkreechEszenia: Well .. I can't vouch but if you can get it working on Ubuntu you should be able to get it working on Live CD as long as it doesn't involve a kernel upgrade07:57
CanadianSnowDoes anyone know how I can find out what my graphic and or audio cards are?07:57
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pmcan anyone help me?07:57
Alex7432quelqu'un parle franais?07:58
thierry_oui bonjour07:58
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Schnitzhi all07:58
robotgeek!fr07:58
CanadianSnowBecause I dont know what they are, but the "AUTO detection" sais it wants to know what I have07:58
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:58
Alex7432thierry_, tu peux peut-tre m'aider?07:58
penkoadvano the /etc/init.d/  script calls another script or directly the binary ?07:58
Schnitzhas anyone succesfully installed informix ids 9.x on ubuntu?07:58
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thierry_dis toujours07:58
CanadianSnowWhich kinda defeats the purpose of ATUOdetection07:58
DaSkreechpaul: Resource list?07:58
robotgeekpenkoad: actually a script07:58
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xeon_hi can someone help me? im a noob :s07:58
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: Where is this?07:58
DeViLuShi thierry_07:58
paul_daskreech, yes, where can i find it?07:58
robotgeekpenkoad: it's a script which might call other scripts/programs07:58
progrockI just did a fresh install, (2.6.12-9-686)... thren did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade... it upgraded to 2.6.12-10-686... do I have to recompile the kernel?07:58
CanadianSnowpm get a virus scanner07:58
i60pm do you know which file it is? if so scan it at virusscan.jotti.org/07:59
penkoadso look in the script ;) , sorry i don't have pgsql installed07:59
soundraytavathlon, no. In a standard PC hard disk with multiple partitions, you will have one or more primary partitions (Linux: hda1-hda4) and one or more logical partitions (from hda5). The logical ones are contained in a so-called extended partition.07:59
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DaSkreechpaul_: huh? What Resource list?07:59
CanadianSnowDaSkreech u mean autodetection?07:59
vanopenkoad looks like it calls another library.. I checked there.. but it is a very messy script.. so messy I really cant figure out what it does or where to I could put the flag.. doesnt seem right to touch that07:59
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Alex7432thierry_, ben voila,j'ai l'cran en 800x660 et j'voulais changer la rsolution,j'ai reconfig dans le terminal (3 fois) et a n'a rien chang mme aprs quelques reboots07:59
saifrg07:59
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CanadianSnowIts like x-org or something, I actually forgot to write that down also (DaSkreech07:59
penkoadvano can you pastebin.com it ?07:59
paul_resoucelist in Germany07:59
xeon_i cant use my wifi, it need to be activated by a button, can someone help me07:59
ownerubuntuforums down07:59
pmi60, Server is extremely busy at the moment. Please try again later :(07:59
thierry_tu es all dans system/resolution cran ?08:00
paul_where i can apt-get the software convieniently08:00
robotgeekthierry_: please use #ubuntu-fr08:00
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Alex7432thierry_, voui,premire chose que j'ai essay mais j'ai aucune option a part ma rsolution actuelle08:00
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: Yeah08:00
soundraytavathlon, make sure you point grub to the right partition. hdaN translates to (hd0,(N-1) usually. I.e. hda5 becomes (hd0,4).08:00
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CanadianSnowyeah08:00
DaSkreechubotu: tell Alex7432 about fr08:00
Bizzehhey, is it posible to preload some stuff into a partition from windows, and install ubuntu from that so it runs on the actual hardware, instead of using a cd?08:00
thierry_tu as quoi comme carte video ?08:00
soundraypaul, de.archive.ubuntu.com08:01
ownerthat new kernel update already broke alsa oss emulation08:01
i60pm, www.virustotal.com/08:01
owneri have no dev/dsp08:01
paul_ok, thank you soundray08:01
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paul_i will try08:01
CanadianSnowCan I get AVG Free on linux?08:01
soundraypaul_, gern geschehen.08:01
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cyferhow could you get a virus on ubuntu?08:01
CanadianSnowits possible08:01
soundraycyfer, write one.08:01
belkinwhy its there no root user ?08:01
xeon_soundray greets from shadox08:01
paul_entschuldigen sie,08:01
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ownerbrb08:02
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Alex7432thierry_, heuh j'ai fait une commande pour chercher ma version de carte vido et a roule de ce cot08:02
Bizzehcyfer: you dont need root to get a virus08:02
soundrayxeon_, hi shadox :)08:02
CanadianSnowlol owner08:02
DaSkreechsoundray: What is he talking about?08:02
kumakunDid the forums go down?08:02
kotatsubelkin: there is, but root has no password08:02
belkini didnt even set up one during the instaletion , why ? i dont need it ?08:02
xeon_soundray shadox said you can help me out with a question08:02
DaSkreechkumakun: Yeah08:02
paul_ich bin Chinsese, aber ich whone in Deutschland08:02
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belkinkotatsu no password ?08:02
soundrayDaSkreech, I could explain it to you, but I'd have to kill you afterwards :)08:02
Alex7432thierry_, ensuite,y'a eu l'cran mon cran,j'ai entr le code de l'cran,choisi la rsolution et a a rien chang08:02
kumakunFair enough. Just wanted to be sure it wasn't me.08:02
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kotatsubelkin: you can use sudo to gain root access08:02
DaSkreechsoundray: Does he mean the repositories?08:02
soundrayxeon_, possibly. If not, I'm sure someone else can.08:03
kotatsubelkin: sudo -s | sudo -i | su -08:03
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belkinkotatsu i know , but how do i have the root password ?08:03
tavathlonsoundray; okay, so if there is already three partitions, then we should point grub to hda4, right? but then we have the next problem: how do we do that??  :S08:03
DaSkreechsoundray: 0 for false 1 for true :)08:03
CanadianSnowhello?08:03
TheMaguswhat is the "x server?"08:03
soundrayDaSkreech, you're talking about paul? He meant repositories.08:03
kotatsubelkin: or if you want to be able to log in as root you can do sudo passwd08:03
thierry_tu l'as fait avec quelle commande ? xf86config ?08:03
xeon_soundray can you tell me how I can activate my wifi? my card must be activated by a buton08:03
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DaSkreechsoundray: Ok Thanks Just wanted to confirm that08:03
gnudreamerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332   can someone help me with a totem error?08:03
CanadianSnowcould someone help me 2 plz :p sorry if i come across as impatient tho08:03
soundraytavathlon, no, you shouldn't point grub to an extended partition.08:03
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: where are you on the CLI?08:03
Alex7432thierry_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg08:03
CanadianSnowCLI??08:04
kotatsubelkin: or you can go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups -> Show all users and groups -> root properties08:04
DaSkreechTerminal Sorry08:04
thierry_bizarre08:04
jimsThe Magus: It is what controls the graphical display.08:04
Yokaloshhey, how do you uninstall realplayer... i can't find out how anywhere :(08:04
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CanadianSnowI have Totem error also, but thats because Ubuntu Doesn't know I have a soundcard :S08:04
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belkinkotatsu passwd: password updated successfully08:04
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tavathlonsoundray, hm, oki. So I should make sure to install grub on a logical partition, right?08:04
belkinkotatsu so now im able to log in as root ?08:04
kotatsubelkin: looks like you're all set then, should be able to log in as root08:05
dunnixHi all08:05
i60CanadianSnow, do you want a free AV? if so clam and f-prot are good08:05
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soundraytavathlon, hold on two ticks...08:05
belkinkotatsu thanks08:05
tavathlonsoundray; oki08:05
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kotatsubelkin: welcome08:05
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CanadianSnowI have a Free AV, Its Called "AVG FREE" but I was wondering if I could install it in Ubuntu (i60?08:06
naliothCanadianSnow: tehre are no viruses on linux08:06
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: Nope No need08:06
ownerviruses arent a serious problem in linux08:06
soundrayxeon_, shadox overestimates me. I have no experience with such cards... Just describe the problem to everyone here.08:06
CanadianSnowDaSkreechCLI??08:06
DaSkreechnalioth: Not totally true08:06
ownerrootkits are the real threat08:06
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DaSkreechnalioth: There are surly no malicious virii in the wild though08:06
i60CanadianSnow, they do one but i don't know if it's free ???08:06
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DaSkreechCanadianSnow: the terminal08:06
xeon_soundray i did that, no one react, shadox thought you could maybe help us out08:06
ViViDDShepherd, to change the image back to default do this, apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash, then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)08:06
tavathlonsoundray; um, I meant a primary partition, not logical  =P08:06
Bizzehhey, is it posible to preload some stuff into a partition from windows, and install ubuntu from that so it runs on the actual hardware, instead of using a cd?08:07
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Yokaloshi installed realplayer using the .bin file and now i want to uninstall it because it isnt functioning properley (processes just open up but nothing else) anyone know how to do this or fix the problem?08:07
DShepherdViViD, ok08:07
DaSkreechDShepherd: Wake up :-)08:07
just1nHi, can anyone help me try the ubuntu live CD on my Windows Laptop? I've followed previous help and failed to get the CD to 'take'. My machine just ignores the CD of ubuntu and runs Windows XP as usual...someone suggested I needed to burn the CD with the .65Mb .exe and then just load it and turn the machine on. So, any more ideas pls?08:07
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thierry_alex 7432 : tu devrais installer les drivers de ta carte video , fais un tour sur le wiki08:07
CanadianSnowoh08:07
owneryoka, what doesnt play in realplayer?08:07
ViViDDShepherd, to customize the image try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto08:07
DShepherdDaSkreech, huh?? are you on crack!!08:07
soundraytavathlon, when you *install* grub, you usually put it on hda. Then it lands in the boot sector, not in a partition.08:07
kotatsujust1n: make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD -- does the windows setup disc boot?08:07
meisamwhat is the executive file in ubuntu08:07
DaSkreechjust1n: try making sure the laptop boots from Cd?08:07
DShepherdViViD, thanks08:07
thierry_alex7432 : donne moi le modele de ta carte je cherche de mon cote08:07
meisam?08:07
DaSkreechDShepherd: You can remove the xubuntu image now :)08:07
TheMagushmmm. would I not be able to play games such as gunz online, flyff online, etc on linux?08:08
kotatsumeisam: what do you mean? the filetype that can execute?08:08
xeon_soundray do you know how i can install a .tgz package?08:08
DaSkreechDShepherd: Just making sure you were here to hear08:08
CanadianSnowMy Teacher Has Gotten Me A Completly Free Version Of AVG, Which I Use On My Windows Machine08:08
just1nno - Windows doesnt boot from a CD.08:08
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Alex7432thierry_, heuh,j'me rapelle plus :s08:08
DShepherdDaSkreech, yeah hopefullt08:08
meisami mean like in windows we have exe08:08
DShepherdy*08:08
Yokaloshowner: realplayer doesnt actually execute properley (no gui etc) just the processes are visible in system monitor08:08
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Alex7432thierry_,  comment j'peux me rafraichir la mmoire?08:08
DaSkreechjust1n: Right make sure the laptop boots from Cd08:08
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soundraytavathlon, you tell grub which kernel to boot by pointing it to the location on the partition where it resides.08:08
redguyAlex7432, thierry_ : how about joining #ubuntu-fr ?08:08
redguy!fr08:08
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ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais08:08
kotatsujust1n: okay, that's probably your problem... when your computer turns on there should be a "press (key) to enter setup" message08:08
dunnixyou dont need AVG...08:08
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DaSkreechjust1n: Some of them you have to ress F11 or F12 to get it to boot from Cd at the start08:08
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ownerthats weird yoka08:09
Alex7432redguy, i will joint later if i doesnt found help here :)08:09
sockpuppe1how can I take a screenshot of my grub bootspash ?08:09
soundrayxeon_, let's start from the beginning. You are trying to install a WiFi card. What chipset is it?08:09
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Alex7432-t08:09
just1ni'll see if I can interrupt the laptop boot process.08:09
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Yokaloshjust1n: on some laptops you have to press escape on boot real fast to get a menu up allowing you to get to bios08:09
kotatsumeisam: by default linux supports ELF and a.out... you can add others... anything executable will try to be run, and if you have the approriate software it will run08:09
redguyAlex7432: if you plan staying here, speak english please08:09
soundraysockpuppe1, with a camera.08:09
just1nthks <DaSkreech>08:09
speedybitsHi, I was hoping someone could help me find out why my Ubuntu 5.10 has recently slowed down with CPU use of 100%. Both 'htop' and 'top' report minimal CPU usage, but gnome-system-monitor says 100%08:09
Alex7432redguy, okay,sorry :)08:09
DaSkreechjust1n: Right :)08:09
gnudreamerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332   can someone help me with a totem error?08:09
kotatsumeisam: like you can execute python if you have the python interpreter, .NET if you have mono, .exe if you have wine08:09
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sockpuppe1soundray is that really the only way?08:09
meisamkotatsu can i be in touch with u?08:09
Yokaloshowner: yeh, you got any ideas?08:10
meisammor08:10
kotatsumeisam: there is no One True Executable format'08:10
CanadianSnowMy Teacher Has Gotten Me A Completly Free Version Of AVG, Which I Use On My Windows Machine i6008:10
AnswerHello.  I have a question how to see the packet information that is coming inbound to my server?  I am getting flooded on port 8008:10
kotatsumeisam: ok08:10
just1nand tks Yokalosh08:10
owneri had to copy realplay to usr/bin08:10
thierry_alex rejoins #ubuntu-fr08:10
Yokalosh:)08:10
|stukas|hello! any experts here? does it matter if i install Breezy Badger preview from some time ago or should i download the new ISO ? or can i update the preview to the most recent 5.10 release when installed ?08:10
ownerfor real media to play in firefox08:10
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i60CanadianSnow, you have to install a Linux version08:10
CanadianSnowbrb everyone08:10
ownerjust the one file08:10
ownerrealplay08:10
Yokaloshjust1n: np :)08:10
ownerits a script08:10
CanadianSnowalright i6008:10
meisamthis is my id: you can add me lmlelilslalm08:10
soundraysockpuppe1, I'm afraid so. If it's about an error, you can turn off the boot splash.08:10
meisammay i have your id08:10
meisamyahoo id08:10
ktogiasI think I found why nautilus doesn't preview ogg files in breezy... It is an ogg123 bug... When over an ogg file nautilus produces the message "Error opening - using the oggvorbis module.  The file may be corrupted."... Googling i found this: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis/2004-June/025185.html ... Does anybody knows anything more about that? Is there a bug report? Will it be someday fixed?08:11
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kotatsuAnswer: ngrep and tcptrack provide low level information, ethereal is a nice gui to do that... you can use ifstat, tcptrack, or netstat for a higher level view of connections08:11
Yokaloshowner: it doesnt work in firefox either, if i try open it from the menu it doesnt work08:11
soundraysockpuppe1, even then, it'll be difficult to get a screenshot without copying or photographing it.08:11
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papaStrumpfDoes anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?08:11
tavathlonsoundray; oki, that first one made sense, that's what I thought it was like. But the second message you sent, I did not quite understand. Do I have to enter grub.conf and point it to where itself resides? And how do I know where it resides?08:11
sockpuppe1soundray i made my on bootsplash and I want a screnshot of it so that i can distribute it08:11
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owneryoka you could try the helix player08:11
ownerinstead08:11
i60CanadianSnow, the two i said - clam and f-prot have free versions with a graphical user interface they are easy and good to use08:11
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ownerbut i never had any luck playing streaming media with it08:11
Yokaloshowner: i remember on debian i once had this problem where just the processes opened but nothing else did and i just had to close the dead process and then reopen real player but that doesnt work now :(08:11
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owneryoka, try killall -9 realplay08:12
ownerin terminal08:12
ownerthat will kill it08:12
meisamkotatsu may i add you in my yahoo list?08:12
Yokaloshk08:12
papaStrumpfanybody?08:12
djay_qui pourrait m aider a configurer mon linux?08:12
kotatsumeisam: I don't have yahoo, but you can message me any time I'm here in #ubuntu =)08:12
soundraytavathlon, if you've done a routine install, there should be a file /boot/grub/menu.lst which tells grub what to do on boot.08:12
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speedybitsAnyone know why I have a CPU use of 100% in Breezy? Both 'htop' and 'top' report minimal CPU usage, but gnome-system-monitor says 100%08:13
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kotatsumeisam: it's easier to /msg kotatsu if you have a specific question, stuff doesn't get lost in the flood ><08:13
soundraysockpuppe1, sorry, I don't think this can be solved any other way.08:13
DaSkreechDShepherd: Using Firefox?08:13
Yokaloshowner: its killed and still doesnt work :(08:13
sockpuppe1thanks anyway08:13
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meisamwhat do u mean?08:13
meisamall right08:13
Yokaloshowner: how do i remove it? there isnt any installer and i want to get rid of the entrys in my gnome menu too08:13
tavathlonsouldray; the thing is that grub never starts at all, it only gives error 17 when it tries to start up itself. Hm, okay. But how do I start this file?08:13
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meisamwould u answer me back all time08:13
papaStrumpfneed a little help here08:13
tavathlonsoundray; the thing is that grub never starts at all, it only gives error 17 when it tries to start up itself. Hm, okay. But how do I start this file?08:14
meisam?08:14
papaStrumpfplease08:14
ownerif you installed with the .bin installer just delete the directory08:14
Answerkotatsu, the problem is all the traffic appears to be coming from our gateway and we cant isolate the source08:14
owneri think it trys to install to your home directory by default08:14
DShepherdDaSkreech, yeah08:14
kotatsuAnswer: no access to the gateway itelf?08:14
rackerzAre the forums down? I can't seem to access them.08:14
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soundraytavathlon, can you still boot into your Ubuntu install?08:14
papaStrumpfDoes anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?08:14
quad_How do I set the standard way to view files, as the way the file browser views them? And not like standard nautilus.08:14
meisamkotatsu how can i install package g++ ?08:14
meisami need to code08:14
Yokaloshowner: its put all its files spread all over /usr/bin :O08:14
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xeon_soundray INTEL PRO/wireless 2200BG08:14
DaSkreechDShepherd: ok go to http://www.mathsnet.net/algebra/index.html08:14
DShepherdDaSkreech, 1.508:14
quad_HEKP: How do I set the standard way to view files, as the way the file browser views them? And not like standard nautilus.08:15
owneryoka you installed to usr/bin ?08:15
Answerkotatsu, the gateway itself doesnt show as much traffic, but apparently for one connection thru the gateway it opens as many sockets as possible08:15
quad_HELP: was what i ment.08:15
papaStrumpfHELP: Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?08:15
jouni__mmeisam sudo apt-get install build-essential08:15
DaSkreechDShepherd: Do you have java installed?08:15
DShepherdDaSkreech, what's up with that site now?08:15
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Yokaloshowner: apparently it did it itself.. either that or those evil gremlins have been at it again ;)08:15
kotatsuAnswer: actually, it shouldn't matter if you have access to the gateway or not... if it does snat right you will see the "real" traffic, at least for the destination08:15
DShepherdDaSkreech, yeah.. I think so08:15
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|stukas|hello! any experts here? does it matter if i install Breezy Badger preview from some time ago or should i download the new ISO ? or can i update the preview to the most recent 5.10 release when installed ?08:16
DaSkreechClick on the 1 beside unknowns08:16
kotatsu|stukas|: yup, just do a dist-upgrade once it's installed08:16
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DShepherdDaSkreech, clicked08:16
soundrayxeon_, what have you tried to get it up and running?08:16
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Yokaloshowner: :S08:16
papaStrumpfHELP: Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?08:16
meisamasks me pass?08:16
tavathlonI can't reach anything at all. (it's not on my computer, it's on a friend's computer) He want to dual with winxp, which is on hda (I have the same here, and it works fine). When we start the computer, it tries to start grub, but stops and give us "error 17", then nothing more happens. Could we start ubuntu manually without grub?08:16
papaStrumpfjesus08:16
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DShepherdDaSkreech, oh.. no java for 1.5.. drat08:16
meisambut i cant enter anything08:16
|stukas|kotatsu: do i do that from the software/packet manager or from the command line ?08:17
tavathlonsoundray; I can't reach anything at all. (it's not on my computer, it's on a friend's computer) He want to dual with winxp, which is on hda (I have the same here, and it works fine). When we start the computer, it tries to start grub, but stops and give us "error 17", then nothing more happens. Could we start ubuntu manually without grub?08:17
meisamseems my keys are locked08:17
ownerlol yoka08:17
DaSkreechMan08:17
DaSkreech:-(08:17
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Yokaloshi guess i have to remove each file at a time08:17
speedybitsDoes anyone know how to find out what application is railing my CPU to 100% (at idle)? Htop and Top don't show anything strange...08:17
Yokaloshand hope i get the right ones ;)08:17
kotatsutavathlon: from the grub manual -- "17 : Cannot mount selected partition08:17
kotatsu    This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."08:17
papaStrumpfyou really don't want to help me now, do you?08:17
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tavathlonkotatsu; I know that - but I don't know how to solve it  =P08:18
kotatsu|stukas|: either one08:18
xeon_soundray i searched on the internet and found a acerak module, this should do the trick, but i cant install it :s08:18
ownerrealplayer bin installer is a pretty poor installer08:18
meisamkotatsu it asks me a password08:18
|stukas|ok tnx :)08:18
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DaSkreechI'd need to have someone with firefox and some java working08:18
ownerit doesnt even come with uninstall script08:18
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soundraypapaStrumpf, be patient. Ask your question again if necessary.08:18
meisambut the keyboard is locked08:18
Answerhow the hell do I launch the shorewall webmin?08:18
kotatsutavathlon: oh hehe... well, I would try booting from a live CD and reinstalling grub to the MBR08:18
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papaStrumpfsoundray: I asked it 5 times already08:18
xeon_soundray *acerhk08:18
kotatsumeisam: that's your own password, for sudo08:18
DaSkreechand 3 minutes of time of course :)08:19
meisamwhat is that08:19
meisam?08:19
papaStrumpfanyway, I have java and firefox working08:19
kotatsumeisam: whatever you set it to be during install08:19
ownerthey have rpms for realplayer 10, we could just alien them to deb08:19
meisamnooo08:19
papaStrumpfSun's Java, that is08:19
Yokaloshowner: yeh... i know this is crazy but what if i added the debian repository and apt got it from there? or would that fuck it up08:19
DaSkreechpapaStrumpf: And 3 minutes?08:19
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Yokaloshwait, i'll just go to the debian ftp and get it :/08:19
soundrayxeon_, I see, you are trying to get the hotkey working...08:19
meisami just have set one for my ubuntu08:19
DaSkreechYokalosh: language08:19
Yokaloshsorry dude08:19
owneryoka probably a bad idea unless you just added that one package08:20
ownerotherwise it screw things up08:20
Yokaloshyeh08:20
xeon_soundray yes you ar right ...08:20
papaStrumpfDaSkreech: what 3 minutes?08:20
redguypapaStrumpf: maybe you asked the wrong question?08:20
Yokaloshi'll go to the debian ftps :)08:20
meisamwhat should i do kotatsu?08:20
ownertoo bad debian web repo is down you could d/l single package08:20
papaStrumpfredguy: And by that you mean....?08:20
DaSkreechpapaStrumpf: Of time that I could take up?08:20
mweYokalosh: mixing debian repositories into ubuntu can cause big trouble08:20
redguypapaStrumpf: maybe you should rephrase your question08:20
ownermwe, especially if you did a dist-upgrade08:20
ownerlol08:20
Bizzehok08:21
Yokaloshhaha oh god08:21
mweyeah08:21
papaStrumpfredguy: ok.... I'll put it like this:08:21
redguypapaStrumpf: not ask 5 times the same thing08:21
tavathlonsoundray; oki, we'll try that. We tried to reinstall grub via rescue mode with an ordinary install cd, but it didnt work, but we could try again.08:21
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AnswerHow do I launch shorewall?  Anybody?08:21
Yokaloshbut it would be ok if i just browsed the ftp for the correct .deb right?08:21
AnswerShorewall webmin??08:21
Bizzehim off to try amd64 ubuntu for the last time, if it doesnt install this time, im done08:21
owneryoka http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/10.1/i386/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/RealPlayer-10.0.6-5.i586.html08:21
papaStrumpfDoes anybody know how to pass the idebus option to the ubuntu kernel?08:21
soundrayxeon_, there shouldn't be any need to install this by hand.08:21
ownertry aliening that08:21
CanadianSnowSO08:21
mweYokalosh: debs for debian can cause trouble as well08:21
meisamkotatsu what should i do for pass?08:21
soundraytavathlon, note the --root-directory option to grub-install08:21
CanadianSnowHow do I know what graphic and video cards I have???08:21
Yokaloshah okay08:21
redguypapaStrumpf: I know08:22
soundrayxeon_, the Ubuntu kernel comes with what's needed.08:22
meisamthe only thing that i know is my ubuntu pass08:22
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redguypapaStrumpf: how to pass a kernel option to the kernel08:22
meisamthats all08:22
Yokaloshowner: do you have realplayer installed?08:22
meisamno more password08:22
mweredguy: grub?08:22
papaStrumpfredguy: ok... please enlighten me :)08:22
speedybitsI'm amazed that X-Chat still runs without any available CPU resources...very impressive08:22
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owneryes08:22
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: Don't have access to the computer?08:22
soundrayxeon_, I think you just have to do a 'modprobe acerhk'08:22
xeon_soundray i'm on version 5.04, the newer version wont install, in the new version (live cd) it worked fine08:22
redguypapaStrumpf: which bootloader are you using?08:22
papaStrumpfredguy: grub08:23
kotatsumeisam: I don't know your password, if it's asking for your password you'll have to enter the one you configured for yourself08:23
Yokaloshowner: you couldnt possibly tell me which files i want to delete in a pm could you?08:23
redguypapaStrumpf: if it's grub, then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file08:23
ownerok08:23
tavathlonsoundray; um, not quite sure what that means...  I'm a rather basic user  :S08:23
xeon_soundray can you explain that?08:23
CanadianSnowDaSkreech yes...08:23
papaStrumpfredguy: I already modified the /boot/grub/menu.lst08:23
Yokaloshcheers08:23
meisamfor god sake it doesnt accept08:23
soundrayxeon_, the key then is probably to sort your upgrade problem.08:23
meisami mean the keyboard is locked08:23
papaStrumpfredguy: but the damn thing won't accept the idebus=xx option08:23
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redguypapaStrumpf: how can you tell?08:24
kotatsumeisam: what are you trying to do?08:24
Bizzehdoes ubuntu support the ralink rt2500 as standard?08:24
soundraytavathlon: boot from live CD, mount your root directory from the hard disk to, say, /mnt, then run 'sudo grub-install --root-directory /mnt'08:24
papaStrumpfredguy: because I can't set udma5 on my hard disk with hdparm08:24
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redguypapaStrumpf: where did you put the idebus=xx option? the kernel line is the right place08:24
DaSkreechCanadianSnow: Wouldn't the easiest way be to just look?08:24
papaStrumpfredguy: put it in the kernel line08:24
soundrayxeon_, have you tried upgrading to breezy instead of reinstalling?08:25
DaSkreechpapaStrumpf: Mind if I PM you?08:25
papaStrumpfplease do08:25
skippyHas anyone successfully compiled Avidemux on Breezy?  I'm getting errors, and could use some help.   http://pastebin.com/51169508:25
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owneryokalosh realplayer installation creates 2 files, realplay and realplay.bin08:25
papaStrumpfDaSkreech: please do08:25
meisamits ok...you know waht...i was trying to see waht i was typing i didint enter08:25
redguypapaStrumpf: now that's your problem08:25
meisambut next time  i entered08:26
ownerand 9 directories codecs. common, doc, lib, mozilla, plugins, postinst, share08:26
mweshouldn't you put kernel options in the # kopts line and run update-grub to keep it for future kernel updates?08:26
AnswerAnybody know how to launch the shorewall webmin ?08:26
redguypapaStrumpf: that is the real question08:26
meisamits done08:26
meisamits done08:26
xeon_soundray i did all the upgrades (122) how do i upgrade to breezy?08:26
ownerand bin08:26
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Yokaloshthanks08:26
redguypapaStrumpf: maybe you don't have the proper chipset module loaded and therefore you can't set the dma?08:26
dannymhi08:26
meisamallright where i should go for g++ ?08:26
owneryou can find where realplay is like this in terminal, whereis realplay08:26
meisami waanna use the g++08:26
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just1nhi again - my laptop refuses to stop loading Windows XP and let me into the BIOS on startup when I press and or hold down ESC. It also doesnt work to press F11 or F12. The file I downloaded "ubuntu-5.10-live-i386 type "burnatonce" .627Gb seems to be assoc with burnatonce - which I have already done: it is loaded on the CD ready to run and try out ubuntu...any more help please:)??08:27
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papaStrumpfredguy: If I can set it up on Fedora.... I MUST be able to set it up on Ubuntu08:27
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soundrayxeon_, go through /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurrences of "hoary" with "breezy". Run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.08:27
Yokaloshowner: got it :)08:27
meisamhow can i compile my programs?08:27
speedybitsHas anyone else had Breezy slow down to a crawl with no apps running? Anyone?08:27
meisamwhere should i run them?08:27
just1nmachine is a Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook BTW 5 Series08:27
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meisami love fujitsu siemnd08:27
meisammine is amilo m740008:27
dannymspeedybits: not really... but try watching what is happening in "top"08:28
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redguypapaStrumpf: you will propably, did you set it up on FC using the idebus kernel argument?08:28
meisamwhere should i type my programs08:28
meisam?08:28
papaStrumpfredguy: no, I use the ide0=ata66 argument08:28
papaStrumpfredguy: but that won't work on Ubuntu either08:29
speedybitsdannym: Both htop and top both report lower than 23% CPU (only Xchat). But gnome-system-monitor says 100% CPU...08:29
meisamhow can i run my c++ code in ubuntu kotatsu08:29
meisam?08:29
soundrayxeon_, note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:29
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just1nmeisam - that's nice, I dont know it. Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem? How did everyone else get started (the subset of people that have it on a laptop designed for Windows)??!08:29
papaStrumpfredguy: that is... used08:29
dannymmeisam: compile it to an executable, then run the executable08:30
dannym(actually compile it to an object file, link it to an executable and run that :))08:30
meisamhow?08:30
gborziHello to everyone. I have submitted a package to revu.tauware.de for ubuntu, and one reviewer complained that config.{sub,guess} should not apper in the diff file.08:30
meisamwaht executable?08:30
gborziHow do I get rid of them ?08:30
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dannymmeisam: what is your actual question?08:30
meisamwhat is executable...08:31
dannymmeisam: you have a c++ source code and want to use the program it will be when compiled ?08:31
meisami have installed the g++ package08:31
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dannymmeisam: yeah, then do "g++ -o foobar foobar.cc"08:31
meisamnow i waana code in ubuntu08:31
belkinhow do i enable root login right from the start ?08:31
meisamhelp me08:31
meisami used to code in win in dev08:31
CanadianSnowDaSkreech I dont know what they look like08:31
tavathlonsoundray; okay, thanx for the help - I'm still not quite sure what to do, but we'll try some things. I know more now, anyway!  =)   I'll come back later if it doesn't know  ;o)08:31
deefzidoes anyone know where can i see what device does java-applets use when they push out sound? i would like them to use ALSA :-I08:31
mwebelkin: set root password. it's not adviceable though08:32
meisamnow i wanna sitch to ubuntu08:32
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belkini just run " sudo passwd root " , will i be able now to login as root right from the login screen ?08:32
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meisamdanny i have installed g++ package08:32
ownerjustln what about del key08:32
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belkinmwe well did that08:32
meisambut i dun know where i should write my codes08:32
davidwinterhi all - is there a way of having program menu's in gnome go to the top menu bar? like how Mac OS X is?08:32
meisamthen how to execute08:33
belkinmwe will not gdm allow me to log in as rott ?08:33
belkin*root08:33
ownerbelkin or you can use sudo -i08:33
mwebelkin: you should only use root if you have to. not run as root all the time08:33
meisamwhere i shoud see the errors and warnings?08:33
gborziI have a question about packaging, someone can help me ?08:33
naliothbelkin: because ubuntu doesnt use an active root account (for a reason)08:33
mwebelkin: it's disabled for a reason08:33
naliothgborzi: join #ubuntu-motu08:33
belkini know man08:33
gborzinalioth: thanks.08:33
mwebelkin: so why do you wanna change it?08:33
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dannymmeisam: you write source code in an Editor08:33
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belkinbut how will i get write access to my secound hard disk ? they are mounted autom. in  /etc/fstab08:33
belkin ?08:33
nippuranyone know about evolution print manager??08:33
naliothubotu: tell gborzi about packaging08:33
meisamok08:34
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naliothbelkin: change the permissions in your fstab08:34
meisamthen?08:34
belkinmwe could you tell me how ? what conf file to i have to edit so i can se root = true08:34
dannymmeisam: then you compile in the shell by telling it "g++ -o foobar foobar.cc" where foobar is  the name of course :)08:34
dannymmeisam: in a terminal, that is08:34
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mwebelkin: run sudo gdmsetup08:34
dannymmeisam: btw: you are probably used to what is called an "Integrated Development Environment" but that's uncommon on UNIX and I can't think of any that don't suck majorly for C++08:35
just1nowner: I shall try that then. If anyone else has any options or ideas - please say now b4 I disappear for another 10 mins!08:35
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ownerits usually del key or f1 to enter bios setup08:35
owneror f1208:35
ownerdepends08:35
mwebelkin: be aware that it's a bad idea08:35
dannymmeisam: you could try http://www.eclipse.org/ though, be aware that I warned you that it would suck :)08:35
ownerwhat kind of computer is this justln08:35
just1ntried f12...think i'm going to try a concert pianist approach on the top row this time...08:35
just1nmaybe not08:35
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meisamallright  what do u mean exactly danny?08:36
ownertry del anyway08:36
soundrayxeon_, how are you getting on?08:36
just1ndel, F1, break..08:36
mdjakejust1n: del or F2 if its an AMD08:36
just1nok cya shortly08:36
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just1nnot AMD Intel, Fujistu Siemens 5 Series Lifebook...08:37
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mdjaketry F208:37
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meisamu mean this is not a good idea to code in g++08:37
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meisamwhat should i do?08:37
monhi, appearantly i get something in my cups log saying @LOCAL is an unrecognized address. while it should allow my network to the printer. does that say something to anyone?08:37
chrisbudden14Hello all, i am having trouble with my Creative Zen when it is funtioning as a USB drive.  It has decided not to mount any more08:37
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redguypapaStrumpf: hrm, putting idebus=66 should really work :/08:37
willgottIs it possible to switch a low-level package such as libc6? I converted my debian 3.1 installation to ubuntu and now I need swap debian's libc6-package with ubuntu's. The packages' contents are probably the same, but the ubuntu-base package is dependent upon ubuntu's libc6-package.08:38
MarcNUbuntu/Dapper's rhythmbox seems to have lost the ability to play mp3 files.  Anyone recommend a nice mass mp3->ogg converter?08:38
redguyMarcN: that conversion will cause quality loss08:38
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duckx0rI'm trying to set up my default e-mail application in Opera. I want to use thunderbird for this. Does anyone know what I would enter into the command line to start a new e-mail in thunderbird?08:38
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dannymmeisam: http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/18096/08:38
soundrayredguy, he seems to have given up.08:38
MarcNredguy: that is fine.08:38
monMarcN: it's possible with a scary gstreamer line, google for it. quality does ofcourse go down as mentioned (couldn't hear it though)08:39
redguysoundray: ah!, he left :/08:39
dannymmeisam: I mean that the IDEs on UNIX are a bit... unflexible...08:39
naliothMarcN: dapper is a development distro. it hasnt 'lost' anything08:39
speedybitsAre there any CPU resource apps other than 'htop', 'top' and gnome-system-monitor?08:39
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nippurHi, i have a pentium 4 630 with EM64 and i install ubuntu for amd64, is this right? it run fine, but i don't if it take the EM64 feactures08:39
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dannymmeisam: but they work, so if you are used to them, you can use Eclipse just fine08:39
naliothnippur: yes amd64 for 64bit processors08:39
MarcNnalioth: I know, and accept, the risks of running dapper.08:39
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soundrayredguy, people want free support, and they want it NOW...08:39
nippurnalioth, thanks08:39
naliothMarcN: have you enabled mp3 in dapper?08:40
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meisamu know what... i cant really get u by saying IDE ?08:40
CanadianSnowDaSkreech I dont know what they look like08:40
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willgottHas anyone succeeded switching "live" from debian to ubuntu?08:40
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soundraywillgott, yes, been there, done that.08:40
MarcNnalioth: I already have gstreamer0.8-plugins installed.  Am I missing something else?08:40
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simakIs there a flag to throw to get zip to make linux zips cross platform zips?08:40
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dannymmeisam: things like on the screenshot http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/18096/ are called "IDE" in english ("Integrated Development Environment")08:40
meisamhow can i download the elipse?08:41
lanjelothi here, i've found out that bash in breezy doesn't behave as it would be. Where can i report such an issue ?08:41
nippurMarcN, can't play mp3 files?08:41
naliothMarcN: not that i know of, perhaps your player is in a state of flux. (file a bug)08:41
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redguysoundray: this is true...08:41
naliothubotu: tell meisam about eclipse08:41
xeon_soundray still isnt working ....08:41
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SBrown:)08:41
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soundrayxeon_, have you done the whole breezy upgrade?08:41
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soundrayxeon_, I would have thought it takes a bit longer...08:42
pmis it possible to install macromedia shockwave with wine for firefox?08:42
dannymmeisam: the site is slow as hell today, but let me check...08:42
dannymmeisam: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/08:42
xeon_soundray shadox sayed i should change my sources but he didnt know how to do it ....08:42
MarcNnippur: xmms is fine, just not rhythmbox since an update a while ago.  Forget exactly when.  If there was a simple fix that would be cool.  That is why I wanted a mass mp3->ogg converter.  I'll burn the extra disk space.08:42
meisamallright08:42
clemslackeranybody here work professionally in IT?08:42
meisamthankssssssssssssssssssss08:42
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speedybitsAnyone...please let me know if there are alternatives to 'htop', 'top' and gnome-system-monitor?08:42
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CarinArrhow would you set up dual monitors with nvidia on linux?08:42
soundrayxeon_, I did tell you... Let's see if it's still in my line buffer08:43
divansantanaclemslacker: Yes!08:43
soundrayxeon_, note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade08:43
soundrayxeon_, go through /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurrences of "hoary" with "breezy". Run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.08:43
dannymmeisam: no problem08:43
lanjelotspeedybits, atop08:43
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nippurMarcN, did you get the mass mp3->ogg converter? I was looking for it too08:43
xeon_soundray I did that, but do i need multiverse for that?08:43
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clemslackerdivansantana: i have an assignment for a class in which i have to interview someone in the field, do you mind08:43
MarcNnippur: nah, need to spend some more time with google.  Simple to hack, but if there is one out there...08:44
divansantanaclemslacker: What type of interview? And how long?08:44
soundrayxeon_, no, for now you can probably stick with the repositories you already have.08:44
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dannymmeisam: hmm.. cool... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE08:44
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clemslackerdivansantana: just 4 questions08:44
Yokaloshowner: how do i remove the old realplayer entry from gnome menu?08:44
soundrayxeon_, also consider source-o-matic:08:44
soundray!easysource08:44
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:44
!lilo:*! Small regional server removed, affected users, about 10008:45
dannymhehe08:45
clemslackerdivansantana: i would need to know where you work and your position08:45
speedybitslanjelot Thanks for 'atop' suggestion08:45
roddenhas anyone installed the cedega time trial?08:45
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owneruse smeg yoka08:45
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squid0hi08:46
CarinArrhow can i find out what package something belongs to?08:46
squid0where is a list of all the ubuntu package repository mirrors??08:46
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willgottsoundray: I you've managed to switch from debian to ubuntu by switching your deb-source list; how did you avoid the libc6-problem? I can't swap my debian libc6 with ubuntu's08:46
dannymanyone has postfix experience? I'm trying to get it to use maildir format, but it keeps putting mail into /var/mail/dannym (flat file), whereas I'd like it to use $HOME/.maildir/{new,cur,tmp}08:46
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alex57hi all08:46
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xeon_soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7333 i changed, but it didn't worked08:47
meisamhi08:47
alex57It's my first time in ubuntu08:47
MoeruGot a real newbie question. If I run a fileserver with SAMBA, am I going to be able to transfer files from my XP PC to my fileserver?08:47
divansantanaMoeru:yes08:47
alex57why I cannot find beep-media-player or amule with synoptic?08:47
soundraywillgott, ignorance was bliss -- I didn't know about an issue. Let me just check what libc I have on that system...08:47
MoeruCool ^^08:47
willgottsoundray: :)08:47
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naliothubotu: tell alex57 about repos08:48
MoeruHopefully one day I can move both of my PCs to Ubuntu ^^; Damn WoW addiction08:48
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divansantanasquid0: U there?08:48
squid0alex57: you need to add "universe" or "multiverse" repositories to your list of synaptic/apt repositories08:48
squid0yep08:48
naliothalex57: enable universe and multiverse repos and you'll find over 17,000 programs for your use08:48
willgottsoundray: I don't care about libc6 itself, but synaptics doesn't allow me to install ubuntu-base :(08:48
naliothalex57: check your  private messages08:48
speedybitsI am seeing <f2> in the CMD column with CPU at 100% in 'atop'. What does this mean?08:48
jouni__malex57 you should enable universe08:48
squid0divansantana: yep08:48
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nippuralex57, www.ubuntux.org08:48
squid0i am. are you?\08:48
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alex57thanks all08:48
divansantanasquid0: U from SA?JHB??08:49
nippuralex57, find out about universe repository08:49
squid0alex57: enjoy08:49
soundraywillgott, does ubuntu-desktop depend on ubuntu-base? Because I just installed the former.08:49
squid0divansantana: um . yes. you?08:49
vassilisanybody heard of an on-board sound card (Realtek) recognised as a SB Audigy LS?08:49
Moerudivsantana has stairs in his house?08:49
soundraywillgott, btw I went from sarge to hoary. Maybe going from etch or sid to breezy is different...08:49
mzinzQuestion: I upgraded to firefox1.5 but i still have the old icon... how can i get that changed?08:49
divansantanasquid0: also, just quite surprised! telkomadsl gave it away...08:50
squid0lol oh08:50
naliothsoundray: yes, it is far more diffecult08:50
soundraywillgott, there you go ^ Sorry if I got your hopes up in vain.08:50
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soundrayxeon_, 1) it's breezy not Breezy...08:51
squid0divansantana: you from jozie?08:51
soundrayxeon_, put a # at the beginning of the first line (deb cdrom)08:51
soundray2) ^08:51
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willgottsoundray: possibly08:51
mzinzAre there any simple java editors for ubuntu?08:51
divansantanasquid0:Yes, U work in IT industry?08:51
jouni__msoundray no. ubuntu desktop doesn't need ubuntu-base as dependency. you can see http://packages.ubuntu.com08:51
squid0divansantana: yep08:52
speedybitsWhen I run 'atop' I can see that <f2> is taking up 100% CPU resources...what is this?08:52
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squid0mzinz: gedit, kate...08:52
mzinzsquid0, kate?08:52
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squid0(java editor == text editor)08:52
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Stormx2mzinz: Editor for KDE/Kubuntu08:52
Stormx2o.O08:52
squid0mzinz: unless you mean a java IDE08:52
Stormx2That was bold08:52
Stormx2how obscure08:52
mzinzsquid0, oh, gotcha, didn't know that was the name08:52
meisamdanny how should i write the filename over there08:53
meisam?08:53
jouni__msoundray sorry maybe some of packages needs it.08:53
Agiofwshow do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?08:53
soundrayjouni__m, thanks, I don't think it matters now.08:53
willgottsoundray: My system works quite okey, so I think that I'll for the moment. I will install ubuntu from scratch sometimes, but it's hard to do since I'm on a laptop that can only boot from disk or SD-card, and I am not in possesion of the former device. Thanks for your help! :)08:53
squid0mzinz, ok sure08:53
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djm62willgott: can it do netboot?08:53
ownerim still trying to get a /dev/midi08:54
alex57but for the kernel image centrino?08:54
soundraywillgott, I found a hint in the install manual that suggests you can boot an install ISO from the HD. Want me to dig it out for you?08:54
willgottdjm62: Yes it can. Good idea!08:54
alex57where I could find it?08:54
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Agiofwshow do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?08:54
willgottdjm62: I will evaluate that option when the big re-install-day comes :)08:54
meisamdannyyyyyyyyyyyyy08:54
meisamwhere r u?08:54
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soundraywillgott, ah, djm62 seems to be in the know...08:55
naliothmeisam: join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss non help things, please08:55
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meisamwhat do u mean?08:55
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chelooubuntu rocks man08:56
cheloo:)08:56
cheloohi all08:56
alex57I see linux-image for 686 but for pentium-m or pentium 4 i cannot find it. why?08:56
naliothmeisam: this is a channel for help and support of ubuntu, for non help chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic08:56
soundraynalioth, is Ubuntu diverging from Debian quite a lot now?08:56
willgottsoundray: I have a winxp-system installed on the drive too; am I not going to risk it?08:56
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naliothsoundray: it is still based on debian "source code"08:56
crovWhat editor support UTF-8 encoding, and what to do to have this formating converted08:56
meisamwaht do u mean by non helpppppp08:56
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soundraywillgott, sure, but as they say, no risk no fun...08:56
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meisamhere people r helping so08:56
willgottsoundray: was it breezy's install-manual?08:57
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naliothmeisam: yes we are here to help. we are not here to talk about where people live or their pets08:57
soundraywillgott, seriously, you can always back it up (check out partimage!), and the risk isn't that big.08:57
dannymcrov: joe, gedit, scite08:57
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soundraywillgott, yes it was.08:57
dannymcrov: use recode or iconv08:57
willgottsoundray: Okey. Thank you very much for your help!08:57
cheloowhat would be best to use , if i want to start a mail server under ubuntu ? qmail ? postfix with courier imap + mysql ? what do you guys suggest ?08:58
meisamdid i ask u where your pet lives?08:58
crovdannym, do i need to do enythind to get file with iso-8859-2 converted to utf0808:58
steve__does anyone know how i can check which version of the kernel im running08:58
dannymcheloo: that's a really really subjective question ;)08:58
meisami asked u what u mean by non help08:58
dannymsteve__: uname -r08:58
soundraynalioth, so the infrastructure (as it were) diverges more and more?08:58
dannymcrov: yes, use recode or iconv08:58
dannymcrov: recode iso8859-2..utf8 foofile08:58
cheloodannym  well its just like " what would run better with ubuntu " ? its the fisrt time i run ubuntu and aint got a clue08:59
naliothsoundray: the binaries are somewhat incompatible at differeing levels08:59
Peggerdoes anyone here use linux-ha08:59
steve__thanks dannym08:59
cheloodannym  i would like to use qmail in fedora . and postfix in debian , what would be for ubuntu ? :)) what its the most ...08:59
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dannymmeisam: sorry, I just noticed your message right now...09:00
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crovdannym,  from command line(newbie) 'recode iso8859-2..utf8 labels.inc'09:00
soundraynalioth, okay, thanks. I will refrain from giving Debian2Ubuntu advice based on my youthful experience :)09:00
dannymmeisam: be sure to write "dannym", not "danny",then it will highlight you on my side :)09:00
jouni__mubotu tell jouni__m about linux-image09:00
dannymmeisam: but as for your question, which filename do you mean ?09:00
jouni__mubotu tell jouni__m about 68609:00
steve__are the forums down or something?09:00
jouni__mubotu tell jouni__m about kernel09:00
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Seveasjouni__m, stop it09:01
dannymcheloo: it auto-installed postfix for me and I was too lazy so far to switch to qmail :)09:01
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naliothjouni__m: did you have e question?09:01
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OneSeventeenhow do I create a DSN in ubuntu?09:01
cheloodannym well only postfix doesnt mean you are running a " mail server "09:01
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meisamok dannym09:01
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dannymOneSeventeen: as in ISDN DSN ?09:01
dannymcrov: yes09:02
crovdannym, thnx09:02
OneSeventeenAs in trying to get PHP ODBC to connect to an Oracle Database without the Oracle Instantclient09:02
nnachtCan anybody helps me with the network of my notebook?09:02
jouni__mtrying to find about linux images see alex57 message09:02
OneSeventeenso instead of using php's oci_ functions, use php's odbc functions, which require a DSN09:02
sbartleylinuxIs Dapper going to use a Live CD with a tool to install to the HDD from that, or will it use both a install and a Live CD version?09:02
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alex57jouni__m: what?09:03
OneSeventeendannym: so I guess I mean Database Source Name09:03
dannymOneSeventeen: have iodbc or unixodbc installed ?09:03
Agiofwshow do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?09:03
nnachtI have the following problem: the network works, but if I try to download some big files, say a cd-image, the network will break.09:03
OneSeventeenI installed php5-odbc09:03
OneSeventeenfrom apt09:03
OneSeventeenbut that's the only odbc thing I've installed09:03
nnachtI don't have the problem under windows.09:03
jouni__malex 57 I was trying to find out why there is not p4 optimized image.09:03
dannymOneSeventeen: I don't know how php odbc works, unfortunately09:03
martiipje: yep09:03
martiipje: still problems with skype?09:04
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xiaogilHow to see if a user has been removed from a group (the group admin)09:04
soundrayAgiofws, you could just use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'09:04
OneSeventeendannym: I have unixodbc, but I can't use iodbc (no gui on this machine)09:04
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dannymOneSeventeen: php odbc seems to be able to use either unixodbc or iodbc, so I'd guess you have to install one09:04
Agiofwssoundray,  no  fell like sticking to  the classical way09:05
dannymOneSeventeen: as long as php was compiled with unixodbc, that's fine :)09:05
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Agiofwssoundray,  no i feel like sticking to  the classical way09:05
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OneSeventeendannym: my only problem now is trying to set up a Database Source Name for the ODBC connection....09:05
jouni__malex57 but I think 686 is ok or 686-smp if you have hyper threading processor.09:05
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OneSeventeenIn Windows (I know... I know) I just go to Data Sources and click "Add System DSN" and choose the driver to use, the name for the DSN, username, and password....09:06
sbartleylinuxCan anyone tell me if Dapper is going to use a Live CD with a tool to install to the HDD from that, or will it have both an install CD and a Live CD version?09:07
dannymcheloo: actually it does, when running postfix and entering an MX record in your dns, you are by definition running a mail server (MTA) ;)09:07
soundrayAgiofws, there doesn't seem to be an Ubuntu package providing xorgconfig. -- Do you mean classical as in non-GUI, command-line-interactive?09:07
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cheloodannym  well i want something diff. i want to be able to add users to mysql . i also want to have a webmail interface . :)09:08
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Agiofwssoundray,  exactly09:08
ui!ping09:08
ubotupong09:08
soundrayAgiofws, I think there is a way to configure dpkg to use the old interface.09:09
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dannymcheloo: for webmail, I liked omail (with small fixes) (though that's for qmail)09:09
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cheloodannym  omail  its for qmail ?09:10
dannymOneSeventeen: try odbcinst, I'm not sure about that though09:10
Seveascheloo, look at courier, it does all that :)09:10
dannymcheloo: yes, webmail and web admin tool for qmail09:10
chelooSeveas yeah i know09:10
cheloou mean09:10
chelooQmail09:10
cheloono o mail09:10
cheloonot omail09:10
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chelooSeveas yeah i now but courier have to run with something , like postfix or sendmail , qmail ...09:10
hamidamhelloo people09:11
Seveascheloo, no it doesn't09:11
hamidami have a questin regarding playin mp3 files on ubuntu... iam VERY new to linux09:11
Seveascourier does smtp, pop3(s), imap(s), webmail and mailinglist09:11
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Seveasno others needed :)09:11
_jasonhamidam: what's your question?09:11
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hamidami have a questin regarding playin mp3 files on ubuntu... iam VERY new to linux09:11
b_9can anyone refer me a website that explains how to use a live cd with a usb key?09:11
dannymhamidam: what is it?09:12
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chelooSeveas  can i also run spamassassin   for courier ?09:12
Seveasb_9, do you use breezy or dapper?09:12
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b_95.109:13
Seveasb_9, in that case: not :)09:13
b_9why?09:13
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Seveaswell, not for persistance, you can use the usb key though09:13
hamidamdanny and jason... still there?09:13
Seveasjust plug it in09:13
hamidamfirst time i use this to09:13
Seveashamidam, just ask your question, someone will answer09:13
_jasonhamidam: yes, generally it's easier if you just ask your question09:13
hamidami have already asked09:13
mirak_hamidam: ask your goddam question09:14
_jasonubotu: tell hamidam about mp309:14
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hamidamthere you see... someone noticed09:14
b_9in that case why not?09:14
Seveasmirak_, watch your language09:14
_jasonhamidam: ubotu told you about playing mp3's check your private messages09:14
Seveashamidam, no you did not ask any question, you just said you had a question09:14
mirak_hamidam: ask your ******goddam question09:14
ROBOdhey guys09:14
mirak_argh09:15
mirak_wrong move09:15
ROBOdwhat to do about: http://bugs.kde.org./show_bug.cgi?id=11801509:15
yggdrasilhow can i create an smb share that will allow windows machine to have full access ?09:15
Seveasyggdrasil, system -> admin -> shared folders09:15
mirak_that's a reccurent problem09:15
b_9Seveas, why not with 5.1?09:15
hamidamook... i did... thanx jason09:15
ROBOdquanta 3.5 falsely complains about "file modified" after saving (each time)09:15
yggdrasilseveas i have to do it from cmd09:15
ROBOdit's a bug in the kernel ... what to do?09:15
yggdrasilive got it all running but its not letting me make stuff from windows comps09:16
Seveasyggdrasil, then edit smb.conf :)09:16
dannymyggdrasil: writable = yes ?09:16
yggdrasilyea its =yes09:16
SeveasROBOd, wait for it to be solved...09:16
newuseri have a broadcom wireless card and everything went smooth untilli got this message, Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A)09:16
ROBOdSeveas: :( ...09:16
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ROBOdwhat to do until then? ..09:17
newuserwlan0 shows in sys>admin>networking09:17
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jbzzyggdrasil:  you can connect and read files but not write files?09:17
dannymyggdrasil: security = user ?09:17
ROBOdwhere could i get an updated kernel?09:17
yggdrasiljbzz yes09:18
yggdrasilshould i pastebin my conf09:18
eugmanis there any reason I should have 3 or more kernel images at any one time?09:18
yggdrasili guese huh09:18
Seveasb_9, the persistance feature is not even a week old...09:18
dannymyggdrasil: did smbpasswd and added a real user ?09:18
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dannymyggdrasil: did create a unix user for the windows user that connects?09:18
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jouni__mROBOd use synaptic and search for linux-image09:18
yggdrasilit just connected without asking for a user09:19
Seveaseugman, not really09:19
eugmanSo should I get rid of the oldest one?09:19
ROBOdjouni__m: i got the latest updates09:19
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jbzzyggdrasil:  Is your setting    security = uesr?09:19
jbzzyggdrasil:  security = user     ?09:20
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yggdrasilgonan check it right now09:20
yggdrasilsecurity = user09:20
dannymyggdrasil: did you do smbpasswd -a and added a real user ?09:21
yggdrasiluh no09:21
dannymyggdrasil: not good ;)09:21
yggdrasiloh09:21
yggdrasilyea its gotten kind of messy at this point.09:21
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yggdrasilhow is it connecting in i wonder ?public=yes ?09:21
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dannymyggdrasil: "guest ok" is probably "yes", which means, whenever anything at all goes wrong (like, server burning), it will just degrade client to guest-only and carry on09:22
dannymyggdrasil: turn it off ;)09:22
yggdrasilyes i will rignt now09:22
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j3dianyone understand netatlak?09:23
j3dinetatalk09:23
djjasonHow can I assign a name to my external drive so that it mounts as somename instead of "60GB Volume"09:23
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patcomhello.. I'm running APACHE2 on ubuntu and some how my php sendmail doesn t work ???09:23
patcomI installed postfix09:24
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patcombut maybe it is not good configured09:24
patcomsome one have an idear09:24
patcom?09:24
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yggdrasildannya guest ok is not on but i have map to guest = bad user ??09:24
Seveaspatcom, does the attempt to send the mail appear in your postfix log?09:24
dannympatcom: try calling sendmail manually to see what it has to say09:24
blekoshello again09:24
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dannympatcom: run sendmail -q to actually get it to send stuff out09:25
blekoscould someone tell me how i can make a long command small? e.g instead of xxxxxxxxx 2 type a109:25
dannympatcom: check /var/log/mail.log for errors09:25
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dannympatcom: and, beware of procmail :)09:26
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meisamwhen im writting the name of file wants to be compiled, is that case sensitive09:26
meisam?09:26
dannymyggdrasil: hmmm09:26
meisaming++09:26
dannymyggdrasil: put "map to guest = Never" instead09:26
yggdrasilok09:26
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dannymmeisam: yes, anything in unix is case sensitive because it was written when cpu power was about zero and nobody has bothered fixing it since :)09:27
securebootis there work going into replacing synaptic?  and if so, what's the name of the replacement?09:27
dannymmeisam: (some users even have be conditioned to like case sensitiveness by now - weird)09:27
czrdannym, fixing it is not simple btw09:28
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VR^hi all, what can i use to convert flac to mp3 ?09:28
dannymczr: I know because I tried09:28
dannymczr: ;)09:28
czrdannym, and putting locale-based policies into kernel is not a good idea :-)09:28
meisamthe name is Unsaved Document 1 what is the command09:28
meisam?09:28
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yggdrasildannym still no go09:28
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czrdannym, I feel your pain :-)09:28
Seveasmeisam, read that tutorial09:28
thisplayerare the forums down?09:28
Seveasthis channel is for Ubuntu support, not beginner programming help09:28
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meisamsorry seveas09:29
meisamallright09:29
meisamDamned me...!09:29
meisambye09:29
yggdrasilits still connecting without asking for a pass09:30
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dannymyggdrasil: is the client windows?09:30
yggdrasilyar09:30
yggdrasiltis09:30
dannymyggdrasil: that's normal, it just tells the password to everyone without asking the user for permission09:30
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majdhey09:31
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majdwhat's the best p2p program to use?09:31
yggdrasilwell its a username that isnt in the list09:31
dannymyggdrasil: (it only asks you when the server won't accept it then)09:31
yggdrasilyou know it should ask09:31
dannymyggdrasil: what windows version=?09:31
yggdrasilxp09:31
dannymhome or pro ?09:31
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yggdrasilhehe uh niether09:31
yggdrasilprobobly pro09:31
yggdrasilits some hacked up version09:31
dannymyggdrasil: hmm, it should ask then...09:31
yggdrasilxp lite09:31
yggdrasilyea09:32
yggdrasilhmmm09:32
dannymyggdrasil: you could try re-logging in on the client09:32
dannymyggdrasil: (the whole session, not just the network thing)09:32
yggdrasilyea09:32
dannym(I have no idea what that's called on windows )09:32
yggdrasillet me see09:32
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yggdrasillogo ff i think09:32
jbzzyggdrasil:  It should try to connect with the current user and password.  If it fails it should prompt the user for a different combination.09:33
cheloowhy does mysql depends on postfix ?09:33
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chelooi run sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server09:33
majdwhat's the best p2p program to use?09:33
yggdrasildannym i got an old mac clone . its a starmax and i got linux up and runnin and im planning on making it just a network storage thing  so thats what im doing now09:33
yggdrasilbrb09:33
dannymcheloo: probably a bug, or at least almost :)09:33
chelooand The following extra packages will be installed:09:33
cheloo  mailx postfix09:33
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majdamule sucks butt09:33
majdit's so slow09:33
dannymcheloo: (I'd report it)09:33
thisplayeris anybody else able to connect to the ubuntuforums..?09:33
crimsuncheloo: it generates mail, so it needs a mail delivery agent09:33
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slewisare dapper and drake different ubuntu products or are they upgrades like osx tiger and jaguar09:34
dannymyggdrasil: I see :) ok :)09:34
cheloocrimsun whos  generates mail ? mysql ?09:34
cheloocrimsun its the fisr time i heard this man :))09:34
crimsun!dapper09:34
ubotusomebody said dapper was The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.09:34
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yggdrasilim gonna pastebing my conf i think theres somethign elese here09:34
dannymcrimsun: yeah, but why does it need a specific mail delivery agent ;)09:34
cheloocrimsun if i want to install mysql then it should only install mysql server not postfix09:35
cheloodannym so what is it ?09:35
yggdrasildannym loggin off and back on did it09:35
yggdrasilthanks09:35
dannymcheloo: bug09:35
dannymyggdrasil: nice :)09:35
cheloosuch a shit09:35
majdwhat's the best p2p program to use?09:35
yggdrasilwierd though09:35
slewisiss dapper going to be the successor to breezer?09:36
dannymcheloo: maybe it shuts up when it finds any other mail delivery agent, try installing another first ?09:36
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yggdrasilpretty awesome though i got that old mac junk firing on all 8 cylinders .... ssh web ftp and smb servers on it... using fluxbox for desktop.09:37
crimsundannym: it doesn't.09:37
crimsundannym: the only reason it pulls in postfix is because mailx, a dependency of mysql-server-5.0, lists postfix /first/ in the Depends alternates09:37
yggdrasilthanks guys  u to jbzz09:38
crimsundannym: so yes, having another package that Provides mail-transport-agent meets that requirement09:38
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yggdrasilwhats a cmd in terminal to see how much space i have ?09:38
_jasonyggdrasil: df09:38
dannymcrimsun: ok :)09:38
dannymyggdrasil: df09:38
yggdrasilthanks i was doing du09:38
yggdrasilhaha09:38
yggdrasilwhatever the hell that was09:39
meisamdannym where should i go for beginner questions in ubuntu, not to make the  guys laugh at me, coz they think its the first time im even using the computer...09:39
lotusleafhow long have the forums been down today? baby jesus cries!09:39
_jasonyggdrasil: man du09:39
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dannymyggdrasil: how much space is used per folder :)09:39
slewisdoes an application like windows terminal services exist for ubuntu?09:39
dannymslewis: X ?09:39
dannymslewis: vnc ?09:39
yggdrasilhahh09:39
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yggdrasili love it09:39
_jasonyggdrasil: or even faster 'whatis du'09:39
yggdrasili loe it09:39
dannymslewis: www.ltsp.org ?09:39
slewisthat is not cluncky and laggy09:39
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dannymslewis: no idea then ;)09:40
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slewisterminal services is very smooth, feels like you are working locally09:40
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jbzzdu09:40
slewisanything like in the linux world?09:40
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yggdrasilso you could do like a grep du > 30000 ? to see any folder over 30 meg ?09:40
yggdrasilor how would that work09:40
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dannymmeisam: I don't know...09:41
uii changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?09:41
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dannymmeisam: as for programming stuff, that is mostly not distribution specific so I'd say maybe #unix, #c, #linux, ?09:41
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meisamhere really people get mad when someone asks beginner questions here...09:42
dannymmeisam: back in the old days I read Fidonet a lot ...09:42
dannymmeisam: (now Usenet)09:42
dannymmeisam: but that was 12 years ago :)09:42
majdwhat's the best p2p program to use?09:42
meisamhow old r u? all right...thankssssss09:42
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meisamatleast u r answreing back09:43
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DShepherdmajd, limewire is nice.. I dont know if its the best09:43
meisamthanks dannym09:43
majdDShepherd, i installed amule, but it's horrible09:43
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DShepherdmajd, ok09:43
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majdlimewire isn't available through synaptic :(09:43
dannymmeisam: 24 :)09:44
dannymmeisam: no problem09:44
uii changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?09:44
ui:(09:44
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DShepherdmajd, check out the site09:44
slewisltsp is a distribution. i gues ubuntu doesn't have a terminal services?09:45
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majdi downloaded the version for "other" OS's....09:45
gsneddershow easy is it to get ubuntu running in 64-bit SMP on PPC?09:45
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dannymui: probably needs some heavy tinkering with scripts09:46
yggdrasilui i would just go to synaptic and do a search for gnome09:46
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yggdrasiland then uncheck the ones you dont want installed ones will be green.09:46
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tonyyarussoWhat's the command for generating a list of all files in a directory recursively?09:47
dannymtonyyarusso: find09:47
tonyyarussodannym: Do I need to pass any options to it?09:47
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dannymtonyyarusso: depends, usually you get all files and directories09:48
dannymtonyyarusso: just the files, find -type f09:48
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tonyyarussodannym: Okay.09:49
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bipolarHas anyone ever thought of making ubuntu's X server fall back to the vesa frame buffer driver if anything goes wrong?09:49
tonyyarussodannym: All right, now expanding to that to a potential use, I have a bunch of music, and I want to be able to play it with mplayer, from command line.09:50
majdDShepherd, what java package do i need to run limewire?09:50
majdi downloaded the javacc package but it didn't do it09:50
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tonyyarussodannym: Can I do something like mplayer -shuffle -playlist < find /music ?09:50
kosmomust go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy09:50
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tonyyarussoYou just have to wonder about computers that "must go today"...Can you say STOLEN?09:52
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DShepherdmajd, you can get java from restricted formts09:52
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DShepherdformats.09:52
DShepherdubotu tell majd about restrictedformats09:52
dannymtonyyarusso: try find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist /dev/stdin09:52
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tonyyarussodannym: What's /dev/stdin?09:53
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dannymtonyyarusso: special file that is the same as the standard input of the process that opens it09:53
dannymtonyyarusso: weird workaround for apps that don't support "-" (maybe mplayer does though)09:53
dannymtonyyarusso: i.e. find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist -09:54
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tonyyarussodannym: Error while parsing playlist; empty playlist.09:54
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dannymtonyyarusso: ok, then you need a tempfile :)09:54
tonyyarussodannym: So I just need to do the two separately.09:54
dannymtonyyarusso: probably a bug in mplayer though (or at least not cute)09:54
dannymtonyyarusso: yeah09:54
tonyyarussodannym: All right, I can do that.09:55
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ReverendNathanHey, I'm getting tired of Azureus of being such a resource hog. What are other good all-in-one torrent clients like it?09:56
ReverendNathanI'm trying KTorrent now...09:56
yggdrasildannym you nkow whats strange now that i browse from my windows computer none of the other windows computers are showing up.... !!!09:56
ReverendNathan...but this download isn't starting!09:56
dukebodyi can't play midi sound files i followed ubuntu guides but i hear no sound what could it be?09:56
tonyyarussodannym: Never mind.  It does work.  I had a typo.09:56
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Sh4d0xhi all09:56
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tonyyarussodannym: Okay, can you explain what the - or /dev/stdin is doing, so I understand how to use it for the future?09:57
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ReverendNathanI think the program (Timidi?) runs through terminal09:57
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dukebodyyes RemoteViewer i started it09:57
ReverendNathanI got Windows programs that use midi to work through wine, but never figured that out for linux.09:58
majdDShepherd, it says it can't find all the packages it said to get in the wiki :(09:58
yggdrasilok anyway bbl09:58
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dukebodyme too ReverendNathan09:58
dukebodyi needed to use a program like guitar pro09:58
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ReverendNathanI used TabIt through wine, and it works pretty damn solid.09:59
ReverendNathanI don't know if you've used Tabit, but you can check out the trial09:59
ReverendNathanhttp://www.tabit.net/09:59
kosmomust go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy09:59
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tonyyarussodannym: And why wouldn't my < work for that?  (Don't really understand those yet either.)09:59
dannymtonyyarusso: it is a placeholder where a filename is expected when you dont want to supply one09:59
dannymtonyyarusso: "<" reads from a file10:00
dannymtonyyarusso: ">" writes to a file10:00
tonyyarussodannym: And that makes it use the file from the previous part before the pipe?10:00
dannymtonyyarusso: "|" connects two programs10:00
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dannymtonyyarusso: programs that expect a filename can be given "-" to make it take the data from the other program anyways10:00
tonyyarussodannym: So I probably could have flipped it around, and have it do the same thing.  i.e., use the - with <.10:01
dannymtonyyarusso: no, "<" and ">" are for writing/reading files10:01
dannymtonyyarusso: "|" is for inter process communication10:01
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La_PaRCahey guys. How can I connect to a wireless network thats not broadcasting its ssid?10:01
dannymtonyyarusso: so if you want them to talk to each other, use "|" ;)10:01
millicentCan anyone help me mount my cd drive.10:01
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tonyyarussodannym: Got it.10:02
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tonyyarussodannym: Going on five months, and still amused at how much can be done on command line.10:03
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millicentHello?10:03
millicentSorry this is my first time using Xchat.10:03
majdhey guys10:03
majdi get this error:10:03
majdE: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.510:03
dannymmillicent: hi... try mount /media/cdrom10:03
majdwhenever itry to install j2re10:04
majdwhy is it/10:04
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majdi have multiverse repos enabled10:04
tonyyarussoHi millicent.10:04
pkernmajd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormat10:04
millicentmount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist10:04
pkernmajd: It is not packaged10:04
tonyyarussomajd: 1.5 is only available packaged from PLF.10:04
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majdshould i try 1.4?10:05
pkernmajd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 that is.10:05
tonyyarussomajd: Works fine for most.10:05
pkernmajd: Well, it is reasonably easy to get a 1.5 package following the step-by-step instructions.10:05
majdPackage j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.10:05
majdThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or10:05
majdis only available from another source10:05
majdE: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate10:05
majdoops10:05
pkernmajd: Depends on what you do. Java 5 has many new features, but you'll lose backwards compatibility to 1.4 ;)10:05
majdsorry for 4 lines, thought it would paste in 210:05
majdi just want to run limewire10:05
tonyyarussomillicent: hdd?  With the way things are named that would be your fourth hard disk.  Is that what you mean?  If not, try hda.10:06
pkernmajd: Are you on amd64?10:06
majdno i'm on pentium 410:06
Stormx2majd: Got universe and multiverse enabled?10:06
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majdStormx2, yeah, i believe so10:06
millicentI do believe there HDD and HDC10:06
Stormx2majd: Check ;-)10:07
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pkernmajd: Well, it's in multiverse then. Try apt-cache policy j2re1.4 -- If it isn't listed, the repositories are not enabled.10:07
majdi got to Settings > Repositeries10:07
tonyyarussomillicent: On what basis do you believe that?10:07
pkernmajd: And you have to run apt-get update after you change the repositories.10:07
decafmajd: you can use "java-package". that package includes a script called "make-jpkg". use it to make packages from sun's jre.bin file10:07
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infoBhi all! I have problem with configuring serial mouse to work with Gnome... What to do???10:07
NaTeeki'm looking for a synctool to sync my mobil and kontakt from kde. do you know one?10:07
majdapt-cache policy j2re1.410:07
Sh4d0xeurhm does someone know a ubuntu program to burn images on cd  or dvd's?10:07
majdoops10:07
majdj2re1.4:10:08
majd  Installed: (none)10:08
majd  Candidate: (none)10:08
majd  Version table:10:08
jbzzmillicent:  you are trying toi mount your cdrom ... correct?10:08
Stormx2majd: check /etc/apt/sources.list10:08
millicentDisk Manager says they are10:08
millicentYes I am.10:08
wundbreadanyone know how to configure wpa_supplicant?  I get an error when running it on my ipw220010:08
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majdStormx2, and look under?10:08
tonyyarussojbzz, millicent: Okay, missed that.10:08
majdbash: etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory10:09
jariep1_is ubuntuforums.org down?10:09
millicentDisk Manager says they are10:09
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tonyyarussomillicent: Mine's /dev/cdrom010:09
jbzz did you try the command       mount  /media/cdrom   as mentioned above?10:09
millicentDisk manager says my hardrive is hda and then my DVD burner is HDC and combo drive is HDD10:09
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jariep1_can anybody reach ubuntuforums.org?10:10
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mwejariep1_: I can't connect at least10:10
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jariep1_ok10:10
Stormx2jariep1_: seems so.10:10
Knelix2Are the Ubuntu forums down?10:10
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Stormx2majd: no, /etc/apt/sources.list10:10
tonyyarussomillicent: But if you look in /dev, those don't exist?10:10
millicenthang on lemmie check10:10
jariep1_Knelix2 it seems so10:10
majdmajd@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list10:11
majdsudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found10:11
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Knelix2Hmm. Darn. I wanted to check how to modift resolution/refresh rates again.10:11
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majdw/o sudo i get premission denied10:11
millicentwhat am I looking for in the /dev?10:11
jariep1_i got a page load but it was really slow10:11
mwemajd: it's not a command10:11
tonyyarussomajd: You need to give it an editor to use.10:11
jariep1_then afterward it wouldn't work10:11
tonyyarussomajd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:11
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tonyyarussomillicent: The device names it claims them to be.10:12
Knelix2Where is that X config file located?10:12
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tonyyarussoKnelix2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:12
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mikecroweHi folks, my Breezy has some of it's X fonts screwed up.  All my GTK programs are looking weird.  Where's a good place to start to reinstall or reconfigure the fonts I have?  I've checked my xorg.conf and the font paths are right.10:12
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Stormx2majd: You need an app to open it with. use gedit10:13
Knelix2tonyyarusso, thanks.10:13
Yokaloshwhat is the username and password that windows asks for when i try to access my network shares?10:13
majdStormx2, ok, i opened it, now what?10:13
jariep1_anybody setup an email server with postfix and dyndns?10:13
majdi'm confused10:13
Stormx2!easysource10:13
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:13
Stormx2^ use that10:13
mwemikecrowe: gtk1 or gtk2?10:13
jbzzmillicent:  can you try      ls  /hdc1    and see if you get a list of filenames?10:13
mikecroweSpecifically gtk1, but I haven't truly checked gtk210:14
millicentim not sure... im kinda new at this, there are hda hda1 hda2 hda3 hda510:14
tonyyarussomajd: The command you need to tell it is the text editor of your choice.  Could be gedit, nano, whatever.  Put that between sudo and the filepath.10:14
jbzzmillicent:   that is      h d c   and then a figure 1 (one)10:14
majdyeah i did10:14
majdand i opened it10:14
majdbut i don't know what to do in it :(10:14
millicentsays unknow file or directory10:14
mwemikecrowe: install gtk-theme-switch and run the 'switch' program and choose a font10:14
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tonyyarussomillicent: The numbered parts of hda are partitions on that disk.10:14
Stormx2majd: Use easysource10:14
Yokaloshanyone? why does windows ask for a password to access my ubuntu network shares?10:15
Stormx2majd: That'll generate the text you need to put in there10:15
millicentok10:15
mwemikecrowe: you can't use ttf fonts though10:15
mikecrowemwe: I did switch themes.  that doesn't change the fonts?10:15
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tonyyarussomajd: See !sources and !easysource for instructions for that.10:15
mwemikecrowe: click the + button to get to the fonts10:15
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Stormx2!easysource10:15
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic10:15
tonyyarussomajd: As well as !multisource10:15
Stormx2^ That be what you need10:15
Bizzehhey, i got ubuntu amd64 installed, but, it refuses to let me bring up X10:15
jbzzmillicent:   those are partitions on your first hard drive     [hard drive]    [a]     [partition#] 10:15
MarlunWhats the vi command for starting on a new document?10:15
jcuseI try to Edit my xorg.conf file and it says Im now the owner so I cant edit it, how do I login as the owner?10:16
millicentOk I got that.10:16
mwemikecrowe: with gtk1 you can only limit the pain. it looks ugly as it can't use ttf fonts10:16
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Stormx2tonyyarusso: It hasn't go an entry for multisource :P10:16
tonyyarussojcuse: Open it with sudo.10:16
jbzzmillicent:   what type of disk do you have in yor cdrom drive?  Music?10:16
jcuseHow?10:16
millicentBlank10:16
timfrostMarlun, if a file doesn't exist, it will be created by vi filename10:16
Bizzehi get (EE) No devices detected. fatal error: no screens found10:16
tonyyarussoStormx2: Whoops.  That would be multiverse, of course.  Really, I haven't completely lost it...yet.  ;)10:17
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Bizzehis there any text based web client that comes with default ubuntu?10:17
mweBizzeh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe10:17
jbzzmillicent:   are you trying to burn a cdrom?10:17
jcusetonyyarusso: how do I open it with sudo?10:17
tonyyarussojcuse: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:17
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tonyyarussoBizzeh: I don't know, but many are in the Ubuntu repos.10:18
Marluntimfrost: but I mean if I'm allready in vi.10:18
Ocean^okay when booting and its going through the list of things its setting up like Alsa, LVM, PCMCIA  for some reason my Network Fails...   How would I go about fixing this ?10:18
Bizzehmy gfx card is at PCI:5:0:0 (pci-e), is that any sort of problem?10:18
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jcusetonyyarusso: the document is blank when i open it sudo10:19
millicent_Sorry the power went out. :(10:19
millicent_Ok its a blank disk I have in my cd drive10:19
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jbzzmillicent:   hang tough10:19
mikecrowemwe:  That fixed GTK.  Is there a similar application for QT?10:19
Ocean^Bizzeh, for text base webclient try "lynx"10:19
b_9Will someone point me to a link that will show me how to use ssh tunnelling to use my home computer web access to surf the web from work?10:19
BizzehOcean^: tried, its not there10:19
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Ocean^Bizzeh, apt-get install lynx10:19
Bizzehits just took me a hour to get on irc cos the network wont route properly10:19
timfrostMarlun, :e newfile10:20
millicent_and its just now that my CD drives havent worked, they have been working fine up untill a day or so now.10:20
Bizzehbecause its refusing to give me my usual ip10:20
Stormx2tonyyarusso: Hmm. Maybe I should make a generator for the grub list ;-) For ubuntu stuff ;-)10:20
Marluntimfrost: thanks10:20
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tonyyarussojcuse: You sure you don't have a typo in the filepath?  (And are using Xorg, not XFree86?)10:20
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jcuseI got it now10:20
Ocean^Bizzeh: are you useing dhcp?  if so try useing static10:20
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jcusetonyyarusso: i got it thanks10:20
visit0rhow come  libasound2 is still at version 1.0.9 for i386? anyone knows the reason for this?10:21
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visit0ramd64 and powerpc already have 1.0.10...10:21
tonyyarussoStormx2: For the grub list?  what do you mean?10:21
MarcNb_9: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+tunnel+corporate+pierce+firewalls10:21
Stormx2tonyyarusso: Nevermind actually. There are apps for that10:21
jbzzmillicent:  can you do anything with the drive?   listen to music, or anything at all?10:21
Bizzehjust tried reconfiguring X, still doesnt work10:22
quad_HELP: How do I view files with the nautilus file explorer, instead of the default one, as standard??10:22
Ocean^Bizzeh:  whats the problem ?10:22
tonyyarussoStormx2: Like grub itself, no?10:22
Ocean^Bizzeh:  And what video card do you have ?10:22
wundbreadwpa_supplicant on ipw2200 anyone?10:22
BizzehOcean^: i cant remember how to set gateway and dns in linux10:22
Bizzehpci-e radeon x70010:22
Stormx2tonyyarusso: Wait, not that.10:22
Ocean^Bizzeh:  okay dns is /etc/resolv.conf10:22
Stormx2tonyyarusso: i meant fstab10:22
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Ocean^russ@Aqualung:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf10:23
Ocean^nameserver 206.47.244.5010:23
Ocean^nameserver 206.47.244.10610:23
Ocean^thats what mine looks like10:23
BizzehOcean^: refuses to let me write to it10:23
Bizzeheven under sudo10:23
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Stormx2letz h4x t3h IPz10:23
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Ocean^Bizzeh: is ur hard drive mounted read-only ?10:23
Stormx2Bizzeh: What filesystem?10:23
Bizzehsudo echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 /etc/resolv.conf doesnt work10:23
Bizzehdefault ubuntu amd64 install10:24
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b_9thanks MarcN10:24
Bizzehso, ext3, and no10:24
mweblekos: wrong command10:24
Aeeeelo all10:24
mweBizzeh: wrong command10:24
tonyyarussoStormx2: Ah, makes much more sense now.  What is the name of the thing for that anyway?10:24
Ocean^bizzeh that wotn work10:24
Stormx2tonyyarusso: Can't remember o.O10:24
Bizzehhow do i make ubuntu remember my wireless settings too10:25
Stormx2fstab is probably "Filesystem Table"10:25
Bizzehlike my essid and enc key10:25
Stormx2!wireless10:25
ubotuwell, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards10:25
Aeeeehas anyone had any luck getting latest ati proprietry fglrx driver working in breezy?10:25
Stormx2;-)10:25
mweBizzeh: also 192.168.1.1 is probably not your nameserver10:25
Ocean^echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" > /etc/resolv.conf10:25
Bizzehmwe: yes it is10:25
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mweBizzeh: it's your gateway10:25
Bizzehmy router is my nameserver too10:25
mweBizzeh: different thing10:25
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Bizzehit forwards dns for me10:25
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tonyyarussoAeeee: Just installed it yesterday.  Increased my framerate tenfold.10:25
mweBizzeh: well in that case just enter the correct command10:26
Ocean^Bizzeh: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" > /tmp/resolv.conf   try that...10:26
meisamwhen i download sth from internet where can i see my download?10:26
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BizzehOcean^: that works fine10:26
Ocean^okay,  ur resolvf.conf should be fine10:26
mweBizzeh: echo nameserver 192.168.1.1| sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf10:26
tonyyarussoAeeee: The one from the repos, not ati's site.10:26
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Bizzehhow do i set my gateway then?10:27
Ocean^now try route -add default gw 192.168.1.110:27
Aeeeetonyyarusso, mine installs ok, then doesnt enable hardware acceration10:27
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mweBizzeh: or just sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf then add it by hand10:27
leku-hi10:27
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taoscotchi changed cdrom drives on my desktop and now the computer boots but it odesn't recognize the hard drive or the cdrom drive10:27
KnelixOk, so I screwed up my xorg.config. Now how can I edit it in the terminal so I can get X back up?10:27
Aeeeei may need to downgrade then10:27
BizzehSIOCADDRT: File Exits << i get that after the add10:28
mweKnelix: you made a backup first, of course, right?10:28
leku-i just installed kubuntu and everything is up and running fine, but I see Xorg hogging a lot of CPU, as well as firefox10:28
leku-my load average when I'm using firefox goes up to 1.9910:28
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tonyyarussoAeeee: Did you get through all of the steps of installation as outlined on the wiki, or just installing the package?10:28
Ocean^Bizzeh: hmm let me look up the command hold on.10:28
Knelixmwe: I did somewhere. But, I know the problem. I just need to edit it.10:28
mweKnelix: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:29
tonyyarussoWhat scale are load averages on anyway?10:29
Knelixmwe: Thanks. :-)10:29
leku-1-10010:29
Aeeeefollowed wiki to create packages10:29
leku-i dunno10:29
Ocean^route add default gw 192.168.1.110:29
Ocean^try that10:29
tonyyarussoleku-: Ah.10:29
leku-0-10010:29
tonyyarussoAeeee: Create packages?10:29
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Aeeeeit can create .debs10:29
leku-sucks that I just dropped gentoo for this10:29
F43RYhi all10:29
taoscotchanybody here know about hardware problems related to changing cdroms10:30
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leku-my gentoo laptop was lightspeed..granted firefox sucked10:30
Bizzehfirefox sucks in general10:30
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Bizzehnot just on gentoo10:30
leku-just doesn't make sense to me why I can't have a fast machine anymore10:30
leku-i know10:30
leku-it leaks memory on every box I put it on10:30
tonyyarussoAeeee: You must have gotten the ones from the ATI site then, I assume?10:30
leku-too bad I don't have any choice but ot use it though10:30
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Aeeeetonyyarusso, yes10:30
leku-god10:30
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leku-maybe it's all this KDE crap I'm running10:30
leku-I guess before I just had fluxbox10:31
Bizzehleku-: i was thinkin gentoo, since i got a amd64 x2 4200, i just still cant be bothered with all the compiling, its not so much the time it takes, its that it has to take that time10:31
MarlunI think I clicked CTRL+C while in vi, and it seemed to close down, but now when I try to open the file in vi again it says it's allready open, how can I get back to it?10:31
taoscotchneed help bad with old AST Advantage 625 desktop10:31
leku-true true.. once it is done though10:31
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bobbydhi10:31
ryanakcahmmm... is it just me or are the ubuntuforums down?10:31
leku-i can't evne say for sure if i was faster because of gentoo or not10:31
mweit's down10:31
Ocean^Bizzeh: route add default gw 192.168.1.110:31
Ocean^try that10:31
leku-thinking about it, i don't know if it mattered.. right now it seems slow probably because before I didn't run all this kde nonsense10:31
bipolarI really have trouble understanding it when people complain abou this and that being crap when I use it every day and never have any problems or performance issues with it. Maybe I'm just lucky.10:31
bobbydis it possible to change the default drag and drop behaviour to move instead of copy (mainly in text editors) ?10:32
F43RYCan someone help me with this error I get from dmesg: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it know10:32
BizzehOcean^: same error10:32
leku-the problem is now I kind of like this KDE business, it's just extremely unusable if it's not fast10:32
tonyyarussoAeeee: How much farther ahead is that version number, and do you need it?10:32
leku-yeah my box isn't even doing anything right now10:32
leku-load avg 1.2910:32
bobbydleku-, what speed is your machine?10:32
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Bizzehi need to get the ati drivers from their site10:32
Bizzehbut10:32
MarlunFound out that I stopped a job, if I write "jobs" I can see "[1] + Stopped vi file.cpp", but how do I start it again?10:32
leku-Xorg and xmms the culprits10:32
bipolarleku-: I used to use gnome on brezzy. When I switched to kde 3.5 is was night and day. Kde is so much faster at everything.10:33
Bizzehi need a working web client first10:33
leku-ooh10:33
leku-well10:33
soundrayF43RY, as long as your keys do what you want them to do, I wouldn't worry about this message.10:33
leku-my box is a pentium m 1300mhz according to /proc/cpuinfo10:33
leku-1183.74 bogomips10:33
leku-but it also says it's only running at 598.11010:33
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Bizzehand apt-get wont let me get lynx10:33
leku-something clocked this thing down10:33
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leku-w-t-f mate10:33
timfrostMarlun, fg10:33
Bizzehsudo apt-get install lynx10:34
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Bizzehsays i cant have it10:34
leku-is this linux, or something in my BIOS?10:34
F43RYkeyboard is correctly configured. The errors come up only when I type arrows!!!10:34
Marluntimfrost: hehe thanks, what does it stand for? no man page about it.10:34
mweBizzeh: it says that. "You can't have lynx"?10:34
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F43RYI tried unsuccessfully lots configurations10:34
deg0baanyone know the keyword to install bitchx using apt-get?10:35
timfrostMarlun, you used bash job control (CTRL-Z).  fg = "bring to foreground"10:35
bipolarleku-: sounds like speedstep10:35
soundrayF43RY, same here on my laptop. Apparently the keys send some code in addition to what is standard. But there isn't really a cause for concern.10:35
leku-how do I disiable?10:35
soundrayF43RY, at least in my experience.10:35
Marluntimfrost: ah, ok :)10:35
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leku-deg0ba: apt-cache search bitchx10:35
bipolarleku-: it will speed up when it needs too. you won't gain any performance10:35
Bizzehmwe: lynx isnt there but it is refaired to by another package, lynx has no instalation candidates10:35
leku-forget that noise10:35
leku-I want to always have it clocked at the same speed10:35
Sh4d0xhi soundray :D, i heard you helped xeon out, thnx  xXx10:36
mweBizzeh: you need to check your sources.list and sudo apt-get update10:36
bipolarleku-: is this a laptop?10:36
soundraySh4d0x, I'm not sure he was happy. I told him to upgrade to breezy.10:36
leku-ya10:36
leku-dell d600 latitude10:36
bipolarleku-: same as the one I'm typeing this on.10:36
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leku-nice10:37
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leku-they're popular..10:37
tim_i have a dpt raid scsi card, my raid tower is detected on the card on boot up and ubuntu has my card listed in the devices but when i go into gparted i do not see the drives in the tower not sure where to go from here10:37
Bizzehmwe: where is sources.list10:37
bipolarleku-: don't turn it off. it increase the chance of overheating. it was designed to use speedstep.10:37
mweBizzeh: /etc/apt/sources.list10:37
F43RYAccording to You, would I let it be?10:37
leku-I don't really care if it overheats10:37
Sh4d0xsoundray, uhu was no problem he had my ubuntu 5.1 disc, he could upgrade the packages from the disc10:37
mweBizzeh: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list10:37
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leku-someone will buy me a new one10:37
leku-see, this thing is running at 500mhz, i want a 1.3ghz machine10:37
leku-like I asked for10:37
leku-i'll figure it out tho10:38
leku-thanks10:38
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Bizzehthere we go10:38
Bizzehupdating10:38
bipolarleku-: sorry. I'm not going to help you destory your laptop. It will run at 1.3 when you run an app. when idle, it drops the frequency.10:38
Bizzehand were installing10:38
mweBizzeh: then sudo apt-get install lynx when it's done10:38
soundrayleku-, Ubuntu has installed itself in a sensible way on your machine. It will run at 1300 if it needs to. Just leave it as it is.10:38
leku-google will help though10:38
leku-fuck that10:38
leku-i want it maxed out10:38
bipolarleku-: don't be stupid10:38
jeanis angry drunken dwarves a good game?10:38
leku-i'm not stupid10:38
mweBizzeh: I think you should already have w3m though10:39
leku-i want ot be in control of my computer10:39
leku-I run Linux for a reason.10:39
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bipolarleku-: you are actiing stupid, and not listening to people you know more about it then you. leave it alone.10:39
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Telemachusleku:  it won't overheat...its designed to save your power and will extend processor life10:39
leku-like I said10:39
jeanlets not call people stupid...k?10:39
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bobbydleku-, attach the CPU directly to your brain with electrodes, then you can tell it exactly what you want it to do!10:39
leku-I do not care about those factors10:39
Mountainmananyone else unable to goto ubuntuforums.org?10:39
soundrayleku-, now, you said you won't take any advice, you say you will get your help from Google, so can you clear the channel for support requests please.10:40
bobbydMountainman, yes, I'm unable on moral grounds10:40
leku-god10:40
mweMountainman: yeah10:40
leku-you guys are kind of riddiculous10:40
Bizzehi forgot how bad lynx was10:40
Telemachusleku: disable it in the bios then10:40
bobbydMountainman, the spelling is really bad.10:40
leku-if someone ocmes in here and asks for help on how to format a drive10:40
tim_anyone have a clue why gparted wont see my scsi drvies?10:40
leku-do you not tell them?10:40
leku-obviously, telemachus10:40
Mountainmanheh10:40
bobbydleku-, no way!10:40
leku-i just don't know why peop-le think they should tell me what is best for my computer10:40
bobbydleku-, that would be dangerous10:40
bipolarBizzeh: "links" is a bit better ;)10:40
Telemachusleku: then whats the problem?10:40
jeanmight we be kind supportive types here in the ubuntu community10:40
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armosfighter!wine10:41
BizzehEVERY page i hit, it complains about no security cert10:41
bipolarleku-: you just said you don't care if it overheats becouse someone will buy you a new one.10:41
leku-yes10:41
bipolarleku-: your parrents?10:41
tonyyarussoBizzeh: elinks is a bit better.10:41
leku-my parents?????10:41
mweor w3m10:41
leku-your tax money, bro10:41
Bizzehas long as i can grab these ati drivers, im gonna be happy10:41
bipolarleku-: thats what you sound like, sorry.10:41
Bizzehsoon as i get my gui, i know where i am10:41
leku-no that's how you have made me out to be in your mind10:42
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leku-i don't care if my ocmputer blows up10:42
leku-i will buy a new one10:42
bobbydleku-, you missed a comma there10:42
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Bizzehi want the xorg 6.x drivers from ati dont i?10:42
tonyyarussoleku-: All the more reason not to tell you if it's our money.10:42
soundrayleku-, I have to agree with bipolar, you do sound immature.10:42
ernst_could anybody give me a help on playing mp3s on linux pls?10:42
leku-8(10:42
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soundray!tell ernst_ about mp310:42
jeanlets not call people names...10:43
tonyyarusso!tell ernst_ about mp310:43
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bipolarleku-: I suguest you go to google and figure it out yourself. the system is working at it's peek effency and you will only hurt it by changing it.10:43
hopeowlI have a problem that is hard for me to resolve10:43
jeanwe can hurt peoples feelings this way10:43
Bizzehhow do i force lynx to wget a .sh from a site instead of displaying it10:43
tonyyarussosoundray: Quickdraw, eh?10:43
mwehopeowl: yes?10:43
leku-I won't hurt anything mr PC doctor10:43
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bobbydjean, woulnd't that be confusing?10:43
soundraytonyyarusso, ay?10:43
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leku-thx for your concern tho10:43
bobbydjean, should we use numbers instead?10:44
opnsrcWhat's the default video / media player for Ubuntu?10:44
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tonyyarussosoundray: Beat me to the !tell10:44
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jeanbobbyd: say what?10:44
soundraytonyyarusso, :)10:44
leku-opnsrc: I recommend xmms and vlc10:44
opnsrcthanks10:44
bobbydjean, well, if we don't call people names, what should we call them?10:44
opnsrcwasn't there something else that comes with it?10:44
Mountainmanim having probs with an ubuntu install that wont recognize the usb optical mouse10:44
Mountainmanis this a known prob?10:44
tonyyarussoopnsrc: Totem's default.10:44
leku-i use kubuntu and a lot of programs come with it10:44
MarlunBizzeh: Can't you press "d"?10:44
jeanbobbyd: no we should not insult people with numbers or names10:44
opnsrcthanks10:44
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tonyyarussoopnsrc: But I don't think many use it.10:44
bobbydMountainman, my logitech one works fine10:45
opnsrcthat's the one10:45
opnsrcthanks10:45
bipolaropnsrc: the totem media player is the default for video. rythembox is default for audio.10:45
jeanbobbyd: no violence either10:45
Mountainmanhmm10:45
bobbydjean, how would one insult someone with a number?10:45
bobbyd12!10:45
soundrayjean, looking back over the conversation, I can't see any traces of namecalling.10:45
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tonyyarussobobbyd: It's like the joke about the prisoners...10:45
glaciousis it wise to have Ubuntu on logical partitions?10:45
opnsrcIs Totem Gstreamer or Totem Xine better?10:46
glaciouswill it slow it down or anything else to degrade the experience?10:46
mweglacious: why not10:46
bobbydsoundray, someone mentioned that they thought someone was immature, but I don't knoe of anyone being called that...10:46
mweglacious: it's fine10:46
hopeowlI have three monitor configured in my Xorg.cong using Xinerama extension. One video card has a DVI + VGA output that is controlling 2 monitors. The other card has just one monitor connected. While the contigous desktop works fine - the display of the monitor that is connected to the DVI output usually has colour distortion after running for a while.10:46
glaciousmwe: excellent, thank you :)10:46
mweglacious: it wont be slow10:46
Bizzehargh10:46
opnsrc(which one plays the most codecs)?10:46
Bizzehmanaged to get them going10:46
bipolaropnsrc: gstreamer is more stable and complete. the xine one can play more formats with the open packages.10:46
gumpishWould there be problems using a Breezy x86(32-bit) install DVD on an Athlon 64 system with an ATI X800 XT PCIe card? (The install seems to complete but X can't start.)10:46
opnsrcthanks10:46
deg0bawhat is apt-cache search supposed to output?10:46
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tonyyarussoopnsrc: Gstreamer will be better in Dapper, but it seems Totem Xine is good at the moment.10:46
bobbydhopeowl, are you sure it's not the monitor?10:47
Ocean^anything special have to be done to use webcam under mercury for ubuntu ?  I got the defalt Mercury package installed...  says it finds all the libarys just fine, but wont detect the webcam10:47
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mweI can't get gstreamer to work in kde. seems to be a general problem10:47
soundraybobbyd, all I can remember was someone saying that they *sounded* immature, a statement that in my view was geared at calling the person to reason, not to denounce them.10:47
bobbydgumpish, maybe it's a driver problem?10:47
Ocean^mind you firefox see's it just fine10:47
jeandeg0ba: a list of package names "apt-cache search [keyword] "10:47
Ngyou lot should be arguing about whatever you are arguing about in #ubuntu-offtopic10:47
tonyyarussodeg0ba: Any packages that match what you told it to look for, just their names and short description.10:47
Ngor you could shoosh ;)10:47
bobbydsoundray, "immature" would be a silly name for someone anyway, bob is much nicer, and easy to type!10:48
tonyyarussoNg has a good point.10:48
jeandeg0ba: apt-get update to update the apt cache10:48
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soundrayNg, you are so right. I promise this will be my last line on the issue in this channel.10:48
mwebobbyd: what do you think about alexander?10:48
glaciousreiserfs still the perfered FS for a desktop/workstation?10:48
glaciousand use ext3 for /tmp?10:49
Ngglacious: that depends who you ask, I prefer ext310:49
jahshuaduckblur: you here ?10:49
ardchoilleIs ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?10:49
ccc_anyone using gxiso (the gtk app for xbox xiso ftp transfers)?10:49
mweardchoille: yes10:49
hopeowlI have narrowed it down to a Xorg problem or perhaps even a driver problem. I think this because no such distortion happens in a similarly configured WindowsXp enviornment. Other Unix desktops such as XFCE and KDE also suffer the distortion.10:49
decafglacious: not for me, once it ate my squid cache10:49
jeanim using reiser, dont know why though10:49
opnsrcthanks10:49
glaciousdecaf: gross.  maybe i'll go back to ext3 for this install10:50
bobbydmwe, that's quite nice, but not as easy to type10:50
ardchoillemwe: thank  you10:50
Bizzehccc_: im new here, but i think its safe to say people dont support piracy in here10:50
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jeandoes ext3 do hard drive checks at boot?10:50
bobbydBizzeh, I do10:50
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ccc_Bizzeh: xisos doesn't necessarily mean piracy10:50
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NeurosisAnyone know of a good chat client for linux other than IRC?10:50
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bobbydBizzeh, I have a patch and a parrot10:50
jeanlike a scandisk10:50
Bizzehccc_: you have a modded xbox, that illegal as it is in most countrys now10:51
NgBizzeh: but it may not be illegal in his10:51
bobbydBizzeh, that's not true at all10:51
mwexbox iso are illegal?10:51
glacious2 GB for /tmp good? =)10:51
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mwedidn't know that10:51
jahshuaNeurosis: gaim,kopete ?10:51
Ngjean: only if it has been unmounted incorrectly10:51
jeanam i wrong or does reiser not have to do fs hard dsisk checks at boot?10:51
bobbydBizzeh, it's actually completely legal to do a linux install now10:51
Bizzehbobbyd: softmod10:51
NeurosisI mean like a new chat community?10:51
TelemachusBizzeh...which countrries are they?10:51
jeanafter a crash10:51
ccc_Bizzeh: not in sweden where i am, so...10:52
Ngjean: you're talking about journalling, which massively reduces the amount of time required to recover from a crash. ext3 and reiser both do journalling10:52
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Bizzehyou cant legaly hardmod consoles in the US or most of europe10:52
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hopeowlActually the colour distortion seems to only happen after the Xscreensaver runs10:52
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bobbydBizzeh, did he mention hardware modification?10:52
jeanNg: i see10:52
mweBizzeh: well in denmark it's perfectly legal10:52
TelemachusBizzeh, that isn't most countries10:52
tonyyarussojean: Mine does it if something was logged as being bad, or unmounted incorrectly.  I also get a check after every 30 or so mounts.  See Ng's for journalling comments.10:52
BizzehTelemachus: its most countrys with electricity10:52
bobbydBizzeh, are you in the united states at the moment?10:52
Bizzehno10:52
Bizzehuk10:52
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NeurosisIs there a paltalk sort of thing for linux?10:53
Hawk|-HI, how do i figure out in which runlevel i am?10:53
ccc_most countries with electricity = usa & western europe <- :D10:53
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mweBizzeh: of course piracy is illeagal though10:53
bobbydBizzeh, that's pretty funny, did you do well in geography at school? :)10:53
Bizzehthere are 2 things that come as iso for the xbox, the dvd player that is a hacked ms dash, and games10:53
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Bizzehbobbyd: did i say western europe10:53
mweBizzeh: is it illegal to hard mod a console in the UK ?10:54
Bizzehi said EUROPE10:54
Bizzehyes10:54
bobbydBizzeh, and linux distrobutions...10:54
TelemachusBizzeh:  There are 192 countries...all have electricity and only few have rules against modding consoles10:54
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Bizzehbobbyd: he wouldnt be using gxiso to put it on the xbox10:54
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poimenbah I dont kwon why if you pay 140 to 300 dollars for a expox you can not modify it10:54
soundrayLet's not call copying software piracy. Piracy is invading ships and stealing property.10:54
bobbydsoundray, and rape10:55
soundrayArrgh, offtopic again.10:55
bobbydand murder10:55
bobbydarrrrrrrrr10:55
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Ryan450hey gang, downloaded an RPM file to install the java runtime enviorment plugin for mozilla.. problem is that it says the rpm: command not found.. any suggestions?10:55
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Bizzehi think im sat in the middle of a bunch of anti-ms zelouts10:55
timfrost!java10:55
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:55
Ryan450ty10:55
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mwepoimen: just move to Denmark. It's legal here10:55
ccc_Bizzeh: listen, gxiso can both ftp transfer xiso files and unpack xiso files. there are lots of homebrew xiso files, and there is no law against unpacking those anywhere in the world.10:55
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poimenlol10:55
palimphreadhi10:55
Telemachusrpms are for Redhat and Suse linux10:55
taliseinsaying the phrase software piracy only helps the evil ones perpetuate the idea that such encrochments on our freedoms is okay10:55
xoredhow to show the current printer spool under ubuntu10:56
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bobbydBizzeh, not calling copying software piracy has nothing to do with being a zealot. It's to do with not accepting someone elses connotations on a subject10:56
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Bizzehccc_: 99% of homebrew comes as raaw files10:56
Bizzehraw10:56
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ccc_Bizzeh: yes, and your point is?10:56
poimenna mwe na I just have my own pc with linux scr*w the xbox , xbox is for playing games and playstation kick its as***10:56
Bizzehi know, i am/was a dev on xbmc10:56
Bizzehi know the scene10:56
ccc_ok?10:56
bobbydBizzeh, if your're happy to define your views through someone else's interpretation then just go ahead. Unless of course you really believe copying software is like piracy.10:57
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TelemachusRyan450: you need to install the the self extracting file from www.java.com10:57
bobbydwhich is worrying in it's own way :)10:57
jclintonDoes anyone know the "Debian Way" to switch compilers from 4.x to 3.x ??????10:57
soundrayBizzeh, not accepting someone elses diction makes me a zealot?10:57
RawplayerMI10:57
jagohey does anybody know the minimum requirements for ubuntu?10:58
Bizzehbobbyd: go buy a new kitchen, then ill come take it off you10:58
Bizzehis that theft10:58
soundrayjclinton, update-alternatives10:58
Ngjago: a few gb of disk and 128mb of ram is the only real minimum requirement10:58
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SeveasBizzeh, -ETOPIC10:58
jagothaks NG10:58
ccc_thanks for proving your point Bizzeh :D10:58
jago but the processor?10:58
bobbydBizzeh, yes, obviously. Is it piracy? kitchen piracy?10:58
Telemachusjago: yep, depends on whether you need to run X10:58
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Seveasbobbyd, -ETOPIC, go somewhere else with this discussion10:59
Bizzeha pirate steals10:59
jago:S10:59
Ngjago: it'll run on an old 486 if you really want it to, the RAM is more important really10:59
SeveasBizzeh, last warning10:59
bobbydSeveas, ok10:59
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aLeSDhi all10:59
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Seveashi aLeSD10:59
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jagong:if i got 96mb RAM?10:59
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jagodoes it work?10:59
Pygifreaky: ping10:59
Seveasjago, that's not enough for Ubuntu, try Xubuntu or a non-GUI system10:59
timfrostjclinton, if you need 3,4, install it.  On breezy, 3.4 and 4.0 co-exist.  To use 3.4, type 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4', then run the configure scripts10:59
aLeSDhas ubuntu somethink to set the frequency or the cpu... I have a laptop10:59
aLeSD?11:00
jago:S11:00
SeveasaLeSD, yes, installed by default11:00
fissyhello, any gurus about? Is there a way of calculating where mkfs.ext3 would put backup superblocks given the default options and a physical disk size of 300GB?11:00
BizzehSeveas: fine, fuck it, everyone else is ok to speak their mind except the person who supports legality and not being a stuck up tight ass... paying for software is fair when someone put alot of money into making a good product..11:00
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jagook thanks11:00
poimenjago I got a 96 mb ram   , 450MHz amd    with 10gig working with xubuntu11:00
rehpotsirhcare the ubuntu forums down?11:00
jago:D11:00
bobbydanyway, does anyone know how to change the default drag and drop behaviour in text editors? by default it copies text, but I'd like it to move it by default.11:00
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Stormx2rehpotsirhc: they are.11:00
poimenubuntu works but too slow11:00
rehpotsirhck thanks, just making sure :D11:00
jagofrom where i got Xubuntu?11:00
jagopoimen?11:00
jclintonsoundray: no, that doesn't work... that lets you change from gcc to other types of compilers, not between versions of gcc11:00
germanHello everybody11:00
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poimenwell I just installed ubuntu and then I did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop11:01
Seveasjago, that's a 2-phase install: install Ubuntu with 'server' option and then install the xubuntu-desktop package11:01
jago:S11:01
jago ok thx11:01
soundrayjclinton, give me a minute11:01
tonyyarussojclinton: Doesn't apt have a force version option somewhere?11:01
germanI changed my icons to gartoon theme, and it's excellent, but i just don't like one icon, and i would like to change just that icon for another one11:01
Nggerman: presumably you'd need to edit the theme11:02
soundrayjclinton, you are right, but that feature enables you to use gcc-3.4 or gcc-3.3 instead of v.4 once you have them installed.11:02
Seveasgerman, that means browsing in /usr/share/icons and deleting/adding icons11:02
jclintontonyyarusso: dunno about that; i have both 3.x and 4.x installed but i need to use 3.x for a program i am compiling11:02
aLeSDSeveas: how could I set it?11:02
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SeveasaLeSD, Pentium M?11:02
aLeSDSeveas: yes11:02
jclintonsoundray: i have them both installed but /etc/alternatives/cc points to /usr/bin/gcc11:03
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Ribsjclinton: try CC=gcc-3.411:03
germanthanks!11:03
SeveasaLeSD, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel, select CPU frequency monitor11:03
Ribsalong with your compile line11:03
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jclintonRibs: ok trying11:03
taliseinjclinton, what does gcc point to? It should be a symbolic link to gcc-4.011:03
jclintontalisein: yea it is11:03
gabe...11:03
germanthanks Seveas, thanks Ng11:03
SeveasaLeSD, that's just a monitor - setting the frequency is done automatically11:03
aLeSDSeveas: fine11:03
taliseinjclinton, is there a gcc-3.4?11:03
jclintontalisein: yes11:03
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soundrayjclinton, and /usr/bin/gcc points to /etc/alternatives/gcc, which in turn points to either /usr/bin/gcc-3.3, /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, or something else. Get it?11:04
SeveasaLeSD, if you want to manually set it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets11:04
SeveasaLeSD, that turns the monitor in a controller ;)11:04
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jclintonsoundray: no, there's is no /etc/alternatives/gcc, /usr/bin/gcc points to gcc-4.011:04
taliseinjclinton, change where the symbolic link points to, but I don't know the "debian way" sorry :)11:04
Seveassoundray, gcc does not use the alternatices system :)11:04
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Dreamglideri just got notified about a new kernel update, i installed it now when ever i open firefox i hear a loud scratch/krackle sound in my headphones/speakers anyone know what it's caused by?11:05
Seveasjclinton, export CC=gcc-3.4 should work for a single session of compiling, otherwise: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc11:05
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soundraySorry jclinton11:05
jclintonSeveas: ok trying11:05
taliseinDreamglider, have you rebooted since the install?11:05
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Dreamglidertalisein, yes i have11:05
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Ryan450hmm.. alright.. I've added the multiverse repository so that I can download the java-package.. but apparently its not there when I go to apt-get install java-package :S11:06
jclintonSeveas: didn't work; i'm trying to compile QEMU11:06
armosfighterwhen i enter wine dvdshrink32setup.exe in the terminal it doesnt work what am i doing wrong?11:06
gabeHow the heck do I change the deafult name it logs me in in xChat?11:06
jclintonSeveas: it could be that the ./configure script is ignoring that env variable i guess11:06
taoscotchwhere do i ask questions related to hardware11:06
armosfighteri have the package on my desktop11:06
armosfighterits still a zip file11:06
mweSeveas: I have to put a -n to ln as well to get it to overwrite links. ln -fns11:06
soundrayjclinton, maybe the ln -sf tip will work then.11:06
jclintonok, just wanted to avoid any permanent changes11:07
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jclintonor anything that would be overwritten by a package install11:07
soundrayjclinton, you can still change the configure script.11:07
jclintonk11:07
Dreamglideri have a 10 gb hdd here i want to install ubuntu on, how should i partion it ?11:08
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aLeSDSeveas: very good tool. Thanks... I can chose the governor... I was searching it11:08
taliseinDreamglider, Try to boot back into your old kernel, just to verify that it is indeed the kernel that is the problem11:08
Dreamglidertalisein, ok brb11:08
aLeSDSeveas: do u have a pentium-m too?11:08
mweDreamglider: I just have one big / partition11:08
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soundraymwe, don't you hate that...11:08
tonyyarussoDreamglider: Unless you need to dualboot, it can do it automatically for you.11:08
mwesoundray: no11:09
mwesoundray: why would I11:09
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akurashyis there any good dvd player?11:09
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soundraymwe, tonyyarusso, I mean people leaving when you're in the middle of answering their question.11:09
Withdrawim having trouble compiling my kernel, i get somekind of gcc-3.4: command not found error11:09
aLeSDI was searching for a kernel image optimizated for pentium-m. where I could find it?11:09
Withdrawhttp://pastebin.com/51212611:09
taoscotchwhere can i ask questions about hardware11:09
NgaLeSD: install linux-68611:09
Withdrawanyone hava  solution11:09
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tonyyarussosoundray: Yeah, but there are worse things.11:09
mwesoundray: oh yeah. that's annoying11:10
decafWithdraw: install gcc-3.4 :)11:10
vassilisonce again the forums are unreachable11:10
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soundraytaoscotch, just ask -- you will get dispatched if it doesn't fit in here.11:10
mwesoundray: thought you asked if I hated having just one big / partition11:10
Withdrawdecaf, i did apt-get install gcc but it says its up to date, how can i override that ?11:10
tonyyarussomwe: I had one big / at first, but have since found that I want to be able to reinstall without losing certain things.11:10
decafWithdraw: also take look at "kernel-package" to build kernels11:10
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mwetonyyarusso: yeah11:10
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Withdraw"kernel-package is already the newest version.11:11
Withdraw"11:11
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soundraymwe, that works surprisingly well. I'm still tempted to put in another disk and try out LVM...11:11
decafWithdraw: default gcc is 4.0, there are other packages, gcc-3.3 gcc-3.411:11
Agiofwsok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ?11:11
glaciousmeh, i keep getting the "error loading grub:   error 17".  I installed grub to /dev/sda6, set that partition bootable.  what can go wrong?11:11
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tonyyarussoAre there console-based e-mail clients?  What would you recommend?11:11
fissytelnet11:11
mwesoundray: yeah11:11
Agiofws?11:11
gabeHow do I change login settings in xChat.. it just keeps logging me in to the channel and with the login name I don't want.11:12
spaceytonyyarusso, mutt11:12
soundraytonyyarusso, I use mutt11:12
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Agiofwsdo i have to turn to debian ?11:12
taliseintonyyarusso, mutt all the way :)11:12
decafAgiofws: system -> preferences -> removable drives...11:12
Withdrawdecaf, kewl, thanks that fixed it (apt-get install gcc-3.4)11:12
mwetonyyarusso: that's a good point11:12
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asparaguii have a winxp box, i wanna add a hard drive and put ubuntu on that.11:12
tonyyarussospacey, soundray, talisein: Sounds like we have a consensus!11:12
Agiofwsdecaf,  console  way11:12
taoscotchsoundray : i was trying to install ubuntu on an old AST advantage 625 computer real slow, real old. i changed the cd rom and installed the one that had auto cd-boot thing. now when i turn on  the computer i dont see anything, my harddrive or my cdrom, only floppy works.11:12
asparaguiis there a way to do that without reinstalling xp?11:12
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fissytelnet :'(11:12
Agiofws?11:12
glaciousanyone know why grub won't load at boot?  /dev/sda6 is bootable, and thats where grub is.  /dev/sda6 is /boot.11:12
soundraytonyyarusso, to quote the developer: "This email client sucks less"...11:12
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tonyyarussoasparagui: I don't know why you'd need to.11:13
PuMpErNiCkLeasparagui: Yeah, just put the new HDD in and install ubuntu on it.11:13
logan001101hi guys, i have a tiny problem, my font stype of all my windows toolbar are very small, how can i make it bigger?11:13
tonyyarussosoundray: Nice.11:13
taliseintonyyarusso, If you don't already know about it, google around and learn about procmail too.11:13
mwetonyyarusso: last time I had to reinstall because I got promblems upgrading to breezy I just burned important stuff to a dvd-rw though11:13
tonyyarussotalisein: Will do.11:13
PuMpErNiCkLeasparagui: Ubuntu will install Grub, which lets you dual-boot, and it'll auto-detect and configure it for your WinXP installation.11:13
asparaguija?11:13
vassilisanyone can help me why there is no sound in ubuntu?11:13
Agiofwsok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?11:13
asparaguisuper-coolness.11:13
logan001101any idea?11:14
fissylogan001101, click on System in the top left then go on preferences, then go on font11:14
asparaguik, i'll go set that up later.11:14
vassilismy sound card is (incorrectly) identified as Audigy LS11:14
crimsunAgiofws: System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media11:14
tonyyarussomwe: That's one way.  I've put a bunch of music on here now too, and can only burn CD, so that would be a lot of burning...11:14
mwetonyyarusso: yeah11:14
crimsunvassilis: lspci -nv  -->pastebin11:14
logan001101fissy: im using xfce411:14
asparaguithanks. ;-)11:14
taliseinvassilis, what sound card do you have? :)11:14
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soundraytaoscotch, maybe you need to make settings in the BIOS setup?11:14
vassilisit's am omboard Realtek chip11:14
fissylogan001101, OIC, no idea. Ask in #xfce :)11:14
Sh4d0xcan someone give me the name of a program to burn images, program should be working in ubuntu (duhh)11:15
soundraySh4d0x, nautilus11:15
taliseinhrm, whats the Ubuntu equivelant to alsaconfig?11:15
logan001101fissy: is #xfce in freenode ??11:15
notgabeWHat the heck? Why is xChat logging me in automatically and whay can't I change my login info? Serioulsy, no one using xChat here?... It wasn't doing this before.11:15
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logan001101fissy: anyway, thanks for help11:15
crimsunvassilis: uh, that's a HUGE difference... please pastebin what I asked for, thanks.11:15
Sh4d0xsoundray, thnx, from this day forward, you are my ubuntu god :D11:15
crimsuntalisein: there is none11:15
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vassilislittle help here11:15
glaciouscan /boot be on a logical partition made bootable, for GRUB?11:16
vassiliswhat do you mean pastebin?(newbie)11:16
crimsun!tell vassilis about pastebin11:16
Seveas!tell vassilis about pastebin11:16
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soundraycrimson won this shootout.11:16
taoscotch soundray : i tried bios setting in there, i cannot see the name of the hardrive or the cdrom, neither the new one nor the older one. and when i tried to go back to defaults, it says hardrive not installed11:16
vassilisok thansk11:16
KeyseirI'm having a little problem... I installed win4lin and I was setting up a windows session. I can't do the installation with sudo because then the session wouldn't belong to the user (session can't be run as sudo), and it won't let me install without sudo because the user doesn't have the ability to change ownership and stuff during the installation. Any idea what I can do?11:17
soundraytaoscotch, just to check: you replaced the CD-ROM drive with a different one?11:17
Sh4d0xsoundray, hmm seems i cannot install it from the repositories *went googling11:17
timfrostspacey, the default nick and server are set at the TOP of the serverlist dialog box (Xchat->Server List)11:17
yatesyKeyseir: sudo -i11:17
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Keyseiryatesy: thanks a bunch11:17
picassonooooo! not another kernel update11:17
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soundraySh4d0x, nautilus is part of gnome. Just right-click an iso file and there's the option to write it to CD-R11:17
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picassonow i gotta recompile my wifi drivers??11:17
Agiofwsok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?11:18
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tyler_why is it that i install the fasttrack network plugin for giFT but seems i cannot get into that network?11:18
taoscotchsoundray : yeah, i had another computer a newer one where the cd can boot directly so to save trouble i removed the older one and replaced it with a newer one11:18
crimsunAgiofws: I just told you11:18
mwepicasso: you have to recompile any custom added modules11:18
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picassoAgiofws: try 'grep -r "mount -a" /etc/rc.d'11:18
Agiofwscrimsun,  i DONT  USE A GUI OR GNOME oR KDE11:18
picassohust kdiding11:18
Sh4d0xsoundray oooooh, that explains much :D  :love: ubuntu :D11:18
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Keyseiryatesy: how do I disable sudo -i ?11:18
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mwecrimsun: what if you don't have gnome?11:19
Knelix2After I install a n app via Synaptic, how do I access it? How do I know where it is?11:19
crimsunAgiofws: then next time please specify you mean mounting of partitions, not devices, thanks.11:19
picassomew, sux0rs, i dont remember what i had to do hehe11:19
yatesyKeyseir: disable?11:19
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bobbydhi11:19
Keyseiryatesy: turn it off.11:19
yatesyKeyseir: to exit out of it you mean?11:19
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Keyseiryatesy: yes11:19
picassoipw220011:19
soundraytaoscotch, depending on the internals of the AST, you may have to switch the drive to work as a slave with a jumper.11:19
crimsunmwe: communication problem11:19
glaciouswhen GRUB is installed to your MBR, does the /boot partition still get used if thats where grub is?11:19
bobbydwhat do i need to do to make the nvidia binary driver work again after I update the kernel?11:19
yatesyKeyseir: same as you would normally logout, exit :)11:19
Stormx2Hey everyone. Is there a nice music-making app for ubuntu, like renoise, reason, etc?11:19
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vassiliscrimsun: ok11:19
Agiofwscrimsun,  it mounts  partitions automatically do you whch script is doing it ?11:19
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taoscotchsoundray, taking it out and putting it in again, won't do the trick right?11:20
mwecrimsun: I mean how do you turn off the auto mount if you don't have gnome11:20
Keyseiryatesy: ah. It's still saying it isn't owned by "this user", and when I try to run it with sudo -i still up, it says it can't be run as 'root'11:20
crimsunAgiofws: /what/ is being automatically mounted?11:20
tonyyarussoglacious: I believe so, as that's where all of the files it uses are.11:20
Sh4d0xsoundray, i have to dissapoint you once more, there is no right mous click option called "burn to"11:20
soundraytaoscotch, no.11:20
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glacioustonyyarusso: ok, thank you.11:20
GoriHi people ! Anybody have an idea when the ubuntuforums.org are up again ?11:20
Keyseiryatesy: It seems like it has to be installed as root but it can't be run as root and it has to be run by the user that installed it.11:20
taliseinAgiofws, is the unwanted partition in your /etc/fstab?11:20
soundraytaoscotch, you need to find the jumpers or switches. Google may help if you know the model name of your drive.11:20
navaroneStormx2, I don't know if this will suit your needs but google lmms and look for project on sourceforge.net I think it is a sequencer kinda prog11:20
Keyseiryatesy: what the heck..11:21
Ov3Rhi11:21
Ov3Rspeake spanish?11:21
Ov3R:S11:21
taoscotchsoundray : i m chatting with you from my laptop it has a cd-writer dvd etc. on it but no floppy and the other computer doesn't have internet connection, so how do i move files from here to there...11:21
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Agiofwscrimsun,  de/hdaX  and /dev/hdabX11:21
soundraySh4d0x, "Write do Disc"? Second last?11:21
Agiofwstalisein,  yes it is11:21
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bshumate!es11:21
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:21
crimsunAgiofws: then you need to edit /etc/fstab and append 'noauto' to the options line(s)11:21
taliseinAgiofws, in the options field for that partition add noauto :)11:21
soundraytaoscotch, I thought we weren't at the stage where we worry about moving files...11:22
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navaroneTalisein isn't that a character from the Grey Mouser books?11:22
Agiofwscrimsun,   thats not such a good  solution11:22
Agiofwswhat is automounting11:22
taoscotchsoundray : i m sorry i thought resetting bios or jumpers and switches required moving files,11:22
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taliseinnavarone, actually its a play on the world Taliesin, which i was first exposed to in Stephen Lawhead's King Arthur books11:23
taliseinerr, word, not world11:23
mwehow do you stop the system from mounting the cd when you put one in?11:23
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Sh4d0xsoundray, nope, my brothers laptop has (finally, it took 8 weeks) returned from repair, i'd like to put an anti virus on it but the bin/cue files are in my windows partion. could that be the problem why it's not working? :$11:23
navaronehmmm...looke familiar  at any rate...:)11:23
soundraytaoscotch, no, this is a pure hardware procedure. You take out the CD drive again and see if it has switches or jumpers.11:23
taoscotchsoundray : cool i will do that in a second11:23
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crimsunAgiofws: /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh is a symlink to /etc/init.d/mountall.sh, which contains a call to mount -a11:24
crimsunAgiofws: simply remove the -a11:24
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vassiliscrimsun: pastebin ok, any help?11:24
crimsunAgiofws: be aware that you're changing the semantics of the boot, though.11:24
rambo3pfffff . why does page like experts-exchange exist on google results11:24
soundraySh4d0x, got you. I thought you were trying to write an ISO file to CD.11:24
crimsunAgiofws: it /really/ is a much better idea to place 'noauto' in /etc/fstab11:24
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Agiofwscrimsun,  ok done it in fstab11:25
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Agiofwscrimsun,  something else11:25
crimsunvassilis: sec11:25
Keyseirhow does one get 'su' to work? I do su and type my password but it always says su: Authentication failure11:25
bobbydStormx2, ask in #lad (linux audio development_11:25
rambo3try sudo -i11:25
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Agiofwscrimsun,  le me reboot11:25
Knelix2After installing an app via Synaptic how do I access it? How do I know where it is?11:25
PuMpErNiCkLeKeyseir: root is disabled by default11:25
timfrost!tell Keyseir about root11:25
Sh4d0xsoundray, an image, yes, could be an iso, but this program is bin/cue imaged (windows h ;))11:26
soundraySh4d0x, in gnome, usually if you insert a blank CD in a drive, it'll open a window where you can drop files to write to it.11:26
taliseinAgiofws, "noauto" prevents init scripts from mounting the partition at boot time, but still lets you mount it at any other time by only calling the target, e.g. "mount /mnt/backup"11:26
!lilo:*! Hi all. Prime time channel note. Freenode hosts an unofficial support channel ( ##xen ) for the Xen server virtualization project. It's a small but growing channel---if you'd like to help out, please stop by. Thanks! :)11:26
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tonyyarussoKnelix2: Sometimes it will add to the Gnome menu, sometimes just typing the program name in terminal runs it, sometime you have to use locate to figure out the command.11:26
fionaAre th fora down?11:26
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KeyseirI hope root is enablable.11:26
PuMpErNiCkLefiona: They seem to be.11:27
gnudreamerare there any security risks to being on irc?11:27
Sh4d0xsoundray i'll try copy paste the bin/cue in the blank cd11:27
crimsunvassilis: I need lspci -v, too11:27
soundraySh4d0x, no... in that case I suggest you look at k3b.11:27
fionaThanks Pumpernickle11:27
fissyKeyseir, you just have to set a password for root (sudo passwd)11:27
PuMpErNiCkLeKeyseir: It is... just use sudo passwd root11:27
KeyseirOK11:27
navaronegnudreamer, only if you give someone personal info...or accept files thru dcc11:27
gnudreamerty11:27
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taliseingnudreamer, if you don't have "auto retrieve" or "auto get" enabled, irc is pretty safe. Obviously if you fetch executables from unknown sources, you can not trust them11:28
soundraySh4d0x, k3b lists "* writing existing iso-images and cue/bin images to cd" as a feature.11:28
gnudreamerty11:28
fionaI just seemed to have hosed my X server - upgraded to Xorg 7.0 and get now messages that X is not executable. Anyone similar problems and a solution?11:28
vassiliscrimsun: done, anything else you need?11:28
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Sh4d0xsoundray k3b? :$11:28
soundraySh4d0x, 'apt-cache show k3b', if you're happy, 'sudo apt-get install k3b'11:29
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navaroneInteresting...talisein...it seems that "Taliesin" is also a 6th cent Welsh poet...lol11:29
Pygifreaky: ping11:29
PuMpErNiCkLefiona: If it gives a path to the non-executable-but-should-be file, you could try chmod +x...11:29
Sh4d0xsoundray aha k3b is a program ,, nice :D  thnx11:30
crimsunvassilis: does your sound not work at all?11:30
vassilisnope, nothing11:30
fionano joy with that11:30
crimsunvassilis: cat /proc/asound/cards11:30
Stormx2navarone: Ack. The lmms dependancies suck >.<11:30
tonyyarussospacey, soundray, talisein: I should be able to configure Mutt to share mail directories with Thunderbird, so I can switch back and forth between them at will, right?11:30
taliseinnavarone, and the name of a welsh band. Also check out the connection between Frank Lloyd Wright and the world taliesin, its pretty interesting bit of americana11:30
taoscotchsoundray : i looked in the back and i also searched the net for pictures of jumpers and switches etc. i found mine has some pins in set of twos and the last one the thrid one has a green colored plastic coating sorta thing on it.11:30
rambo3A sophisticated KDE cd burning application11:31
rambo3 . o we want $$$ for QT , ok no one is buying it lets make it free so we dont look like idiots11:31
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Stormx2navarone: Everything there requires a newer version of a package that isn't in the repos11:31
vassilis0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA010611:31
vassilis                     MSI K8N Diamond MB [SB0438]  at 0xde00 irq 1611:31
Okayhi11:31
tonyyarussoHi Okay.11:31
taliseintonyyarusso, Yes, if you use the "mbox" format. Thunderbird does not recognize the "Maildir" format. The the limitation to the "mbox" format it is safe for only one program to access your mail at a time11:32
Okayhi tonyyarusso11:32
Sh4d0xsoundray, status: installings, seems to be a nice tool11:32
crimsunvassilis: that's not incorrect.11:32
tonyyarussotalisein: Okay, that won't be a problem.11:32
soundraytaoscotch, the green thing is a jumper. You need to find out whether it is configured as a master or slave at present. Once you know, toggle the state.11:32
picassohey, for some reason when i mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/drivec, i can't get it to be readable by users. i tried using disk manager through gnome too, same result11:32
vassilisno it's not you're right, still...11:32
picassohow can i mount my NTFS volume so that users can read files?11:32
tonyyarussotalisein: Looks like I have a wee bit of reading to do!11:32
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soundraySh4d0x, if only it didn't need all those KDE dependencies.11:32
taliseintonyyarusso, Yeah ^^ Mail is fun.11:33
crimsunvassilis: see my amendment at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/733911:33
crimsunvassilis: so now I need your amixer output11:33
Okayhow can i hyde the version of ssh when a telnet sesion is opened plz?11:33
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theinewhat's up with http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/11:34
KeyseirI'm trying to install something that requires a regular user to change premissions for files used for the installation. It can't be installed by the super user or root user because it's set up to only work for the user that installs it, and can't be used  by the su. How can I install like this?11:34
soundraytonyyarusso, I had bad experiences trying to access one mbox with more than one email program.11:34
theine?11:34
crimsunOkay: you'd have to edit the openssh-server source and recompile it.11:34
Sh4d0xsoundray, but there aren't that much differences between kde and gnome, or?11:34
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rambo3move the window to the left on the screen so that you dont see the half of terminal , nad you wont see the version11:34
picassoanybody can help me mount ntfs partition so that i can access it w/ user acct?11:34
j3dipicasso: if you make a seperate partition thats FAT32, your windows box could read and write to it as well as your linux users..:)11:34
soundraytonyyarusso, consider retrieving your mail twice, leaving it on the server the first time round.11:34
vassilisone step at a time11:34
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soundraytonyyarusso, once for mutt, once for tbird.11:35
picassoj3di, not what i'm looking for..11:35
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Okaycrimsun, that sux11:35
picassoi want users to be able to read.11:35
vassiliscrimsun: what should I do with the amendment?11:35
timfrostKeyseir, where in the filesystem is it trying to install?11:35
picassonot worried about r/w, and also not interested in using fat3211:35
soundraySh4d0x, from a user's point of view, they differ in approach, but not in power.11:35
crimsunvassilis: I just let you know what I need next11:35
vassilisand how can I see the amixer uotput?11:35
rambo3picasso maby there is entry for fstab in ubuntu wiki11:35
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Keyseirtimfrost: /home/$user/11:35
picassoi just want to read my c: drive so that i can run IE w/ wine11:35
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crimsunvassilis: type amixer in a terminal11:35
fionaAnyone else problems with Xorg 7.0 "not executable"?11:35
j3dipicasso: then why are you using ntfs?11:35
navaronej3di are your windows partitions mounting?11:35
soundraySh4d0x, if you have a gnome system, installing a single KDE program is fairly expensive in terms of disk space.11:36
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Keyseirtimfrost: I can install it anywhere if a different location will solve the problem, though11:36
tonyyarussosoundray: And you were trying to access it with the two programs but at separate times?11:36
theineOkay, what feature of openssh are you looking for?11:36
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picassoj3di: fat32 is archaeic and terrible11:36
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soundraytonyyarusso, yes.11:36
j3dimine are mounting perfectly yes..11:36
picassoplus, i dont want to modify my windows install, it's default from my laptop vendor11:36
picassoall iw ant to do is mount it read-only so that i can access dll's and exe's11:36
picassofor wine.11:36
soundraytonyyarusso, admittedly, it was mutt and evolution, when the latter was still in alpha.11:36
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vassiliscrimsun: pastebinned it!11:36
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tonyyarussosoundray: Hrm.  Okay, will keep that in mind.11:36
timfrostKeyseir, what does ls -ld /home/$user show?11:36
j3dii figure if you can read and write to it.. it cant be that terrible11:37
tweek888Hello, is there a guide to creating a .deb package for ubuntu?11:37
rambo3then you dont need linux , use windows11:37
picassoheh11:37
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navaronepicasso...can you paste your fstab contents in pastebin ?11:37
Sh4d0xsoundray, ai, i'm running gnome, isn't there a usefull gnome version to create cd projects, since kde can handle more, mayB i should try kubuntu11:37
picassonavarone, it's not in fstab, im doing this manually11:37
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taliseintonyyarusso, Take a look at the screenshots for slphyeed and slphyeed-claws. It recognizes the Maildir format and is pretty robust in other ways too11:37
tonyyarussotweek888: If you find it, let me know.  I've been wondering how to make a metapackage.11:37
glaciousholy crap.  Ubuntu ROCKS.11:37
Keyseirtimfrost: drwxrwxrwx  79 andrew andrew 4096 2006-01-18 17:30 /home/andrew11:37
picassoperhaps you could point me to the proper fstab entry. trying to find now on wik11:37
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Agiofwsok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boots ?11:37
carlnoob to Ubuntu, everything works but my printer which the job queue says it recieves the job, appears to "print" it then job clears but no paper comes from the printer, any ideas, what other info might you need?11:37
soundraySh4d0x, k3b will run okay in a gnome environment in my experience.11:37
crimsunvassilis: no wonder, you mixer levels are set to 0 [out of 100] 11:37
navaronepicasso then what command options are you using in mount?11:37
tweek888tonyyarusso, ok11:37
Agiofwsok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boot ?11:37
tonyyarussotalisein: Okay.11:37
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picassono options11:38
glaciousit even got the front play/pause/mute/vol +- to work AUTOMATICALLY in my laptop.11:38
picassowhich options shall i use?11:38
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glaciousgo Ubuntu! =)11:38
taoscotchsoundray : i did change the cdrom to  slave but i did it with a pair or really small tongs, is that ok.11:38
hen3rzis ubuntu forums working for anyone?????11:38
taliseintonyyarusso, but I've never used it (I'm happy with just mutt), so I can't necessarily 'endorse' it ;)11:38
soundraySh4d0x, the reservations I have are more of a theoretical point of view.11:38
crimsunvassilis: you need to increase 'Analog Front' (and possibly 'Analog Center/LFE', 'Analog Rear', and 'Analog Side' if you use surround)11:38
navarone!diskmounter11:38
ubotudiskmounter is probably to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter11:38
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soundraytaoscotch, absolutely.11:38
picassogracioas11:38
glaciousis the default Ubuntu user also a 'super user', because i can update, config stuff etc...11:38
navaronepicasso try that url and see if it suits your purpose11:38
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soundraytaoscotch, I hope this was the right thing to do.11:38
carlhen3rx: forums down for me too11:38
uber_spacedmy gaim stops during "screen name sent"11:38
picassohrm no response from server D:11:38
uber_spacedis this a common issue with the default install from ubuntu?11:38
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soundraytaoscotch, I mean, I hope it works now.11:38
hen3rzcarl. k thanks11:38
vassiliscrimsun: how do i do this? from GNOME I can;t get it out of "mute"11:39
Sh4d0xsoundray, aha, but as long as it works it's fine with me, and atm it's burning at 9.52 speed :D11:39
taliseinglacious, by default, all administrative is done through "sudo"... thats why it asks for your password11:39
Keyseirtimfrost: what does that tell you?11:39
crimsunvassilis: you can use alsamixer in the terminal11:39
CrAzYoNiHello all11:39
soundraytaoscotch, it could still be that your HD needs to be configured for the presence of a slave.11:39
crimsunvassilis: I have a meeting in less than 8 minutes, so I need to run11:40
tonyyarussotalisein: Looks like that's solely GUI, no?  I actually quite like Thunderbird, I'm just investigating text-only apps pretty much for kicks.11:40
CrAzYoNiI tried to add some script into /etc/init.d though I can't run it even though I'm as root, how can I make a shell file to be act as script that can be run?11:40
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navaronehmmm..yeah no response picasso...try again later11:40
crimsunvassilis: those instructions should fix "no audible sound"11:40
taoscotchsoundray : atleast the computer booted this time and registered both the hardrive and cdrom11:40
soundraytaoscotch, there is also a worst-case possibility that the HD and CD drives are completely incompatible. But the only way to find out is to try.11:40
taliseintonyyarusso, yes, a GUI--basically a thunderbird replacement, if you could stand switching.11:40
Agiofwshow do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?11:40
vassiliscrimsun: thanks, i dont't know how to work alsamixer but i'll figure sth out11:40
soundraytaoscotch, excellent, that is good news.11:40
vassilisthanks a lot11:40
glacioustalisein: but with my 'normal' user created during install, i can install patches and updates...11:40
navaronectrl-d?11:40
timfrostKeyseir, those permissions mean that the install should be able to create its files/directories in your home directory.  I assume you are running the install as the user.11:40
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taoscotchsoundray : i will be back in a second i want to put the boot disk before it reboots again11:40
TelemachusCrAzYoNi: chmod 777 <filename>11:41
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CrAzYoNithx11:41
soundraytaoscotch, your CD will be on hdb (I reckon it was hdc while in the newer laptop).11:41
QalimasIs there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?11:41
Yangowhat's the package for developing client sendmail apps?11:41
crimsunvassilis: left or right arrows to move between elements, up and down arrows to increase or decrease, 'm' to mute or unmute11:41
Keyseirtimfrost: yes I am, let me pastebin the error message to you. maybe you can make sense of it.11:41
Yangoi see nothing like sendmail-dev in apt-cache search11:41
taliseinglacious, yes. "sudo" allows a normal user to use superuser abilities to execute a single command11:41
vassiliscrimsun:thanks again11:41
Agiofwshow do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?11:41
CrAzYoNiThanks a lot, what is the meanning of chmod 777?11:41
vassiliscrimsun:have a nice meeting11:41
vassilis(whatever)11:42
hen3rzcrayzyoni it set permissions for that file11:42
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taliseinAgiofws, Is it complaining that a partition is dirty, or what?11:42
glacioustalisein: but i never even set a 'root' password, nor did i ever type the password to use sudo to perform the updates.11:42
hen3rzcrayzyoni its the same as right lciking and selecting the permissions tab and selecting the boxes11:42
TelemachusCrAzYoNi: best to open a terminal and type 'man chmod'....that will explain it11:42
carlcould I ask a hopefully quick will not print question?11:43
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glaciouswhat is the default root password in Ubuntu 5.10?11:43
vassiliscrimsun:WORKS!11:43
vassilisbye11:43
fionaFound the problem : /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc refers to X but should refer to Xorg...11:43
hen3rzwhat IRC clients do u guys use?11:43
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tonyyarusso!tell glacious about root11:43
Agiofwstalisein,  maybe11:43
CrAzYoNiok, thank you :-)11:43
Agiofwsbut how do i overcome this ?11:43
Agiofwsdelete it ?11:43
taliseinglacious, there is no root password, sudo uses the user's own password. which is weird if you're used to the old way, true enough :)... I think that ubuntu "remembers" your sudo privledges for 5 minutes or so. i'm not sure11:43
glaciouscrimsun: wow.  no thank you? =)11:43
tonyyarussohen3rz: Had been in XChat, right now I'm trying irssi.11:43
glacioustalisein: yes, very weird :)11:44
QalimasIs there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?11:44
hen3rztonyyarusso, yeah im using xhcat11:44
soundraytalisein, too short in any case.11:44
hen3rztonyyarusso, just wondering what else was out there11:44
NatureTMhi, I love ubuntu, but I've been having some issues:the first is that when I boot into windows, nvidia drivers get messed up and xserver fails to load11:44
Keyseirtimfrost: the problem seems like it may have disappeared, I'll have to get back to you.11:44
glaciousjust wondering how i install packages, remove stuff ,edit configs etc... without the root password.11:44
akariHi, what su password for ubuntu???11:44
taoscotchsoundray11:44
soundraytaoscotch, hello11:44
taoscotchsoundray : i got through the boot and root disk, will be back in a sec11:45
taliseinAgiofws, I'd take the time to run e2fsck or reiserfsck or whatever on the drive that is complaining11:45
NatureTMnoone's heard of my problem?11:45
Telemachusglacious: sudo -i will give you a root prompt in a terminal11:45
soundraytaoscotch, that's great. I'm going to be away soon...11:45
Agiofwstalisein,  i tried  it does not fix the problem11:45
Agiofwsthough11:45
glaciousTelemachus: ahh, perfect :)  ty.11:45
Agiofwsist an old vfat partition11:45
glaciousTelemachus: so you never use or set a root password in Ubuntu11:46
dieselNatureTM: your question does not make sense11:46
soundrayNatureTM, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages.11:46
tonyyarussoglacious: But for most things, everything you named, you don't need a root terminal.11:46
Agiofws?11:46
timfrostKeyseir, OK.  I am going off-line for a while.  Will check with you when I come back online.11:46
NatureTMthanks i needed the name of that log11:46
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dieselNatureTM: when you boot into windows...your xserver fails?11:46
Telemachusglacious: there i no need...although you can if you like....but its not regarded as good practice11:46
NatureTMyes11:46
Keyseirtimfrost: awesome, thanks.11:46
tonyyarussoglacious: Just prepend sudo to the commands (i.e. sudo apt-get install packagename, sudo rm filename, etc.)11:46
glacioustonyyarusso: i guess i'm just used to the old system.  to install any system-wide packages i always needed root11:46
Agiofwstalisein, ?11:46
NatureTMbut i can't see the output11:46
taliseinAgiofws, I think there's an option you can add to your fstab that will tell it to not check the drive11:47
Stormx2alsa has died on me. how do I restart her?11:47
soundrayNatureTM, do you mean the X window system?11:47
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NatureTMscreen is just black11:47
taliseinAgiofws, I'm looking it up :)11:47
navaroneNatureTM, then I think that means it is running normally...<s>11:47
Agiofwstalisein,  ok11:47
NatureTMx server i think11:47
tonyyarussoglacious: Seems to be common with people who have been doing it for a while, from what I hear.11:47
Agiofwsthanks though11:47
glacioustonyyarusso: guess things change :)  then so will i.  thank you.11:47
hen3rzubuntuforums is back up :D11:47
NatureTMlol i must have miscommunicated11:47
glaciousTelemachus: awesome.  thank you :)11:47
NatureTMlemme just check that log file11:47
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soundrayStormx2, alsa is she now, that's poetic :) /etc/init.d/alsa restart11:47
mweglacious: sudo runs stuff with root permissions. by default anyone in the admin group can use sudo for anything11:48
czrdoes anyone know any good replacement for esd?11:48
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manickahen3rz, not for me11:48
Sh4d0xi'm off for some sleep, cya all tomorrow  ... soundray thnx man for helping ... sleepwell  xXx11:48
czrgood as in allows sample caching and network operation11:48
AbZuh, yeah. Would anyone be willing ot help me out for a sec11:48
akarihow do i use sodu ___11:48
AbZIm such a noob11:48
soundraySh4d0x, all the best.11:48
Stormx2/etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.11:48
Telemachustonyyarusso:  I've been a Unix/linux user for 12 years and find sudo very very strange.....I must confess that I use a root password11:48
Syuusukesodu? or sudo?11:48
dieselAbZ: go ahead and ask11:48
navaroneStormx2, is Alsa blonde with a Swedish accent? lol11:48
Stormx2lmao11:48
akarisudo11:49
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tweek888Syuusuke, it's sudo11:49
hen3rzmanicka, it was working... the main page laoded now a sub forum wont load...11:49
NatureTMwhat's the other log file x server lets you see whenb it fails other than /var/log/Xorg.0.log11:49
Syuusukeyeah i know lol, just that the person typed out sodu and i was wondering if its sudo11:49
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soundrayTelemachus, I used Linux for *even longer* :) and I got used to sudo.11:49
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tonyyarussoTelemachus: Well, I'm not going to be the one to argue with you, since you have 25 times my experience, but given what I've heard in hear before I'll let someone else do it. :)11:49
AbZyeah, I m working on downloading aim and I have to log onto root11:49
taliseinI use su with the understanding that I have to sleep in my own bed ;)11:49
Syuusukeakari, what about sudo?11:49
AbZAnd I have no clue how11:49
ompaulTelemachus, I have have now had a unix or linux account for 11 years - emm sudo is more natural once you do it for a week :) advantage you are not sitting there doing rm without typing sudo unless your actually type rm :-)11:50
taoscotchsoundray : thanxs to you i now(almost)  have debian 3.0 sarge on my very very old ast advantage 625 and i use the dell inspiron 5160 with ubuntu the latest edition. i have tried many different distros now and then, but the longest i have been with any distro is ubuntu(debianish kinda ) cool. thanks a lot again.11:50
mweI've used linux for 75 years and I think sudo rocks11:50
ompaulTelemachus, with the sudo (not well explained)11:50
tonyyarussoSo now we have a little contest going for who's been using Linux longest, eh?11:50
Stormx2uhg11:50
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Stormx2so11:50
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Stormx2restarting alsa didn't bring my sound back11:50
ompaulmwe, sudo was developed about 25 years ago :-)11:50
tonyyarussomwe: Now that one I find just a tad hard to believe....11:50
Stormx2*sigh* i wish ubuntu wouldn't do this11:50
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Stormx2after a while the sound just cuts out and stops.11:51
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soundraymwe, what kernel version was teleported to you back in time 75 years ago? :)11:51
tonyyarussoompaul: Not to mention computers...11:51
AbZ?11:51
dieselAbZ: In order to install in Linux you must be the root user...this is for security pruposes11:51
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navaronesudo makes sense security wise on a multi user set up...an intruder would have to determine exactly which user can use sudo in order to compromise the system. More users makes it more difficult.11:51
AbZokay11:51
AbZand I do this how11:51
taliseinAgiofws, the fstab entry for your drive doesn't have a 1 at the end of it does it?11:51
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ompaultonyyarusso, he was programming cards on a loom back then :)11:51
dieselAbZ: sudo!11:51
AbZgah....11:51
Syuusukesudo powah11:51
Agiofwstalisein,  nope11:51
diesel!root11:52
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.11:52
tonyyarussoompaul: I would have liked to see that.11:52
navaroneSome mac os's used sudo I think as well11:52
AbZsudo? hwo exactly do i do this? I just got this system a few days ago11:52
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Stormx2AbZ: using sudo, you just put sudo before a command. Like "sudo gedit" instead of "gedit"11:52
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AbZah11:52
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soundraytaoscotch, glad I could help. Good luck!11:52
AbZalright then11:52
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dieselAbZ: take a look at what ubotu just said11:52
CalamityXhello11:52
BxL!source-o-matic11:52
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic11:52
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Agiofwstalisein, /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       211:52
Agiofws/dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       211:52
Agiofws/dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,noauto        0       011:52
Agiofws/dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ext2    defaults,noauto        0       211:52
mweompaul: sudo is really that old (25 years) I had no idea11:52
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Agiofwsi should put 011:52
Agiofwsi think11:52
flhuillery:)11:52
glaciousis there a way to absolutely force the screen refresh rate?  because no matter what i do, i tries 85, and my monitor displays an error box constantly over the desktop.11:52
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tweek888ummm11:53
Telemachusompaul:  I'm a network admin and am very careful with what I'm doing.11:53
taliseinAgiofws,  yeah, 0 should stop it. It still complains even though its set noauto??11:53
fireonyxanyone know of how to ignore certian updates?  have a newer kernel, and dont need the ones up now.11:53
tweek888what is the proper command to use ubotu?11:53
CalamityXwhat is the default root password after the install ?11:53
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PuMpErNiCkLefireonyx: You could use the 'lock version' feature in synaptic.11:53
mweglacious: put in the correct values for HorizSync and VertRefresh in xorg.conf11:53
ompaulCalamityX, there is none, use sudo11:53
soundrayTelemachus, you are a network admin! That makes you different, of course.11:53
tweek888CalamityX, it is yours11:53
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tweek888meh11:53
ompaul!tell CalamityX about sudo11:53
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glaciousmwe: i've done that, from manufacturer specs11:53
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Syuusukewhat does sudo stand for btw?11:53
mweglacious: and maybe play with modelines. there's an online generator11:54
taliseindo as superuser11:54
Syuusukeoh ic, never knew that11:54
glaciousmwe: nothing i do to xorg.conf shows any change in the menu in gnome, always shows 85hz, thats all11:54
mweglacious: google modeline generator11:54
glaciousmwe: also tried that generator :)11:54
mweglacious: oh11:54
glaciousmwe: i exhaust my options, then come here for help =(11:54
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mweglacious: yeah11:54
mweglacious: well if modelines and sync/refresh options don't help I don't know11:54
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glaciousmwe: my monitor still works @ 85hz, it just sets itself to 60hz, and displays an error 100% of the time, but my Gnome desktop is behind it.11:55
mweglacious: of course you're sure you configured it to actually use those modelines?11:55
navaroneglacious google your monitor model and find horiz and vert freq...you can then put those in xorg and maybe allow more refresh rates11:55
glaciousmwe: i put the line into the 'Monitor' section.  not sure what else to make it use them.11:55
mweglacious: so the monitor itself is complaining?11:55
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navaroneglacious I will post my monitor portion of xorg for you to see11:56
ompaulTelemachus, well, maybe you are careful it helps you be more careful :-) sudo is like a drug, use it for a week and you will be addicted :)11:56
glaciousmwe: yes.  card will only send 85hz.  monitor can only use 75 @ that rez.  so it throttles back, but displays a constant error message.11:56
taliseinglacious, what video driver are you using?11:56
mweglacious: can you paste xorg.conf at pastebin?11:56
glaciousnavarone: i'd apprediate that.  thank you.  and i have tried going to the website, got the rates.11:56
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AbZ-_-11:56
talisein!pastebin11:56
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:56
glacioustalisein: not sure? :)11:57
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AbZI got the basic concept11:57
nerv4012hi11:57
AbZbut....11:57
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unfdoes anyone any internet service that let me sincronize a calendar with my ubuntu?11:57
mweglacious: can you paste your xorg.conf at pastebin?11:57
glaciousmwe: yes, i'll have to boot back into Ubuntu, just in it on my laptop now.11:57
AbZI'm needing some help as far as the command line goes11:57
taliseinglacious, I was only going to say if you were using the proprietary nvidia drivers (not installed by default) you could use the UseEdidFreqs option11:57
unf*does anyone know11:57
ompaulAbZ, put it _all_ on one line so people can follow your thinking easily11:57
glacioustalisein: ahh.  no, it detects my Raedon 9000 as is, and it 'works'.11:58
nerv4012just a stupid question wich has nothing to do on that channel but, is this correct english : I will make an office/email/web purpose of it ?11:58
mweglacious: you're not in linux now?11:58
fireonyxI take it the forums are down again?11:58
nerv4012can you say that? or is it not right?11:58
glaciousmwe: booting into it...11:58
taliseinnerv4012, not really, sorry ;)11:58
mweok11:58
ki4iklhas anyone in here set up a webserver through a wireless belkin router?11:58
fissydoes anyone know about recovering data from a formatted ext3 filesys?11:58
vesanyone know of any decent backups scripts/utilities? something which would like weekly backup important directories and quietely ask you for a dvdrw or something every now and again?11:58
AbZsorry. Im just needing help installing aim on this thing because I dont quite understand how to work the command prompt11:58
ompaulnerv4012, no, please take that to #ubuntu-topic11:58
ompaulAbZ, why not use Gaim which can do aim and so much more11:59
nerv4012ok do you know a discuss channel where i could ask?11:59
nerv4012sorry :/11:59
ompaulnerv4012, >> #ubuntu-offtopic<< sorry ~I left out the off11:59
AbZI was using gaim but I coudlnt find out whether ti would let me use voice. I wanted to do that11:59
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ompaulahh11:59
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