[12:00] <ubuntu> stubbster
[12:00] <j2daosh> yeah that line did it :) thank you very much for your help... now its time to start messing with stuff :) woot woot... ill be back to ask questions if i break something :)
[12:00] <gnudreamer> quick ways to allow my dvd-rom to read dvd-cd's?
[12:00] <adub> im trying to patch my orinoco drivers i patched them but when i go to run make i get this error Makefile:35: *** The kernel source is not configured.  Stop.
[12:00] <naneo> gnudreamer... there are such things as dvd-cds?
[12:00] <nbound> gnudreamer, dvd-cds??? =/
[12:01] <naneo> dont you mean vcds?
[12:01] <trappist> adub: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[12:01] <gnudreamer> dvd's with information other than video?!
[12:01] <benji> doc_: what tv card do you have?
[12:01] <naneo> you mean dvd-rom.
[12:01] <gnudreamer> quick ways to allow my dvd-rom to read dvd-cd's?
[12:01] <mwe> gnudreamer: well I just put em in
[12:01] <j2daosh> wait... one more question before i leave... is there (and if there is how) do i manage the webpage remotely? do i need to log into a certain page after i set it up or something?
[12:01] <adub> trappist i downloaded my headers with the proper arch
[12:02] <gnudreamer> i think it pretty much says dvd-rom in the sentence
[12:02] <mwe> gnudreamer: that pops up a window with the contents in it
[12:02] <j2daosh> basically im asking if there is a webconfig for it
[12:02] <adub> i ran arch i have i686 and i apt-get install linux-headers-686
[12:02] <benji>  Anyone has experience installing a conexant winfast tv card?
[12:02] <gnudreamer> yeah that works for actual dvd's but not dvd's containing other data
[12:02] <doc_> benji: pinnacle pc tv ... mythtv work right in my pc (amd xp 2000+) with version 1.18, but the version for ppc is 1.17 ... so... do you know if there will be more actualiced packages ? or non-official packages with a more recent version ? :?
[12:02] <trappist> adub: whatever you're building needs to know where the headers are, then.  it sounds like it's looking at some unconfigured kernel source - the headers should behave correctly if the Makefile knows where they are
[12:03] <benji> doc_: fraid not, i was actually goinig to ask you about drivers, i'm a few steps behind yuo in getting my card to work
[12:04] <nbound> bimberi, sync works like a charm =)
[12:04] <naneo> gnudreamer: ubuntu will automount data dvds (dvd roms) as easily as data cds (cd roms). typically one calls the dvd drive... a ... dvd drive
[12:04] <bimberi> nbound: great! :)
[12:04] <adub> trappist i appreciate your help do you think i need to make a symlink from the headers to the directory im running make in
[12:04] <gnudreamer> thanks for the grammer lesson naneo
[12:04] <tristanmike> I can just copy my Windows fonts into Ubuntu provided they are truetype, right?
[12:04] <gnudreamer> i tried that
[12:04] <xavier_> hi all
[12:05] <naneo> gnudreamer: it is spelt  "grammAr" :P
[12:05] <xavier_> anyone using firehol in ubuntu breezy ?
[12:05] <doc_> benji: mm...
[12:05] <gnudreamer> im getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes
[12:05] <gnudreamer> thanks for the grammer lesson naneo
[12:05] <doc_> benji: have you seen mythtv.org in depth ?
[12:05] <doc_> benji: your card is well supported, not ?
[12:05] <benji> doc_: no
[12:05] <gnudreamer> do you have anything useful to say
[12:05] <trappist> adub: no.  there's probably a README and/or INSTALL in the directory you're working in, which should tell you how to tell the Makefile where your headers are.  like, LINUX_SOURCE=/path/to/headers, or maybe it looks in /usr/src/linux, in which case that should be a symlink to your headers.  but check the docs.
[12:05] <syuusuke> bimberi, do you know if there is a difference between kubuntu distro and installing kubuntu-desktop on ubuntu distro?
[12:05] <benji> doc_: again no
[12:06] <gnudreamer> im getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes
[12:06] <ninnghizidha> just the gnome-programms, syuusuke
[12:06] <gnudreamer> im getting a lot of bug reprts from mplayer ubuntu crashes and freezes
[12:06] <syuusuke> really eh
[12:06] <benji> doc_: although it seems to be a fairly comone chip set
[12:06] <doc_> benji: yup
[12:07] <bimberi> syuusuke: no difference in the kubuntu setup
[12:07] <syuusuke> thanks for the advice guys :)
[12:07] <xavier_> I have a problem with firehol not restoring firewall rules at boot... any advice ?
[12:07] <nbound> bimberi, whould there be a force a sync after every command to the drive?
[12:08] <naneo> hah
[12:08] <bimberi> nbound: i don't know (but might research sometime)
[12:08] <erUSUL> xavier_, sudo update-rc.d firehol defaults
[12:08] <mwe> xavier_: use iptables-restora at boot
[12:08] <qsrv> hi
[12:09] <qsrv> any thinkpad users?
[12:09] <nbound> bimberi, yeah im googlin it myself
[12:09] <qsrv> I'm having trouble making the line-in work for audio capture
[12:09] <bimberi> nbound: tell me when you find out! :P
[12:09] <xavier_> erUSUL: I do it the update and firehol it's in  the Rc directories...
[12:09] <naneo> incidentally, ubuntu never remembers my domain or dns setting in network manager... how the heck do i make it do so?
[12:10] <xavier_> mwe: I would to know why firehol don't start at boot, and I need to run it because I have a NFS and NIS server runing
[12:10] <adub> http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-79160.html
[12:11] <naneo> i have posted on the forums about network manager except some helpful gent told me to rtfm
[12:11] <adub> trappist the above is the tutorial i am following   no errors until i got to #make and i have followed verbatim
[12:11] <tuxie> trappist, apt-build works for me now.. it segfaults the last thing it does, but after compiling and installing..
[12:12] <mwe> xavier_: if it doesn't come with a rc script you need to put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh or something like that
[12:12] <tuxie> trappist, I had to upgrade (from sources with dpkg-buildpackage) apt, apt-src, apt-build and libapt-pkg-perl from dapper
[12:12] <xavier_> mwe: there is a rc script in init.d but for some reason seems that don't start o fail to do it...
[12:13] <benji> doc_: hey i have taken a look at thatsite but des not seem to help,thannks anyway
[12:13] <mwe> xavier_: you need to check the log files then
[12:13] <doc_> benji: :)
[12:13] <mwe> xavier_: does it start if you run the rc script manually?
[12:13] <xavier_> mwe: yes
[12:14] <mwe> xavier_: the name of the rc script is firehol?
[12:14] <xavier_> mwe: yes
[12:14] <ninnghizidha> got a problem. I'd like to enter my mounted windows-drive, but the folder looks like this and deonst let me in: dr-x------   1 root root 4096 2006-01-17 17:54 windows
[12:14] <ninnghizidha> how can i enter it?
[12:14] <mcdenyer> hey does anyone know how to uninstall programs that were installed using wine?
[12:14] <_jason> ninnghizidha: unmount it and then mount it with '-o umask=0222' option
[12:15] <mwe> xavier_: does ls /etc/rc?.d|grep firehol confirm the links are in place?
[12:15] <nbound> bimberi i got it... was easy
[12:15] <bimberi> nbound: hm?
[12:15] <nbound> bimberi - sudo mount -oremount,rw,sync /dev/sdb1/
[12:15] <ninnghizidha> i see ... how would that look like in fstab?
[12:15] <mcdenyer> how do u uinstall prgrams in ubuntu
[12:16] <mcdenyer> ?
[12:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: use synaptic
[12:16] <HJ> are ubuntu respositories updated as newer versions of software come (like ebuilds with gentoo), or are they static with just updates for security/bug fixes (siuch as with suse)?
[12:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: or sudo apt-get install foobar
[12:16] <bimberi> nbound: thanks!  (a mount option - of course)
[12:16] <nbound> mcdenyer, apt-get uninstall <program> (or use synaptic)
[12:16] <xavier_> mwe: S36firehol
[12:16] <xavier_>  S36firehol
[12:16] <xavier_>  S41firehol
[12:16] <mcdenyer> mwe what if the program was installed in wine?
[12:16] <nbound> bimberi, now do u know how to put that in the automount script?
[12:17] <nbound> mcdenyer, if it doesnt have an uninstall u gotta just delete it
[12:17] <bimberi> nbound: nope :|
[12:17] <[dalamar] > is there anyway to get xfce to automount dvds and play them with a certain program like gnome can? is there a seperate program that will do this?
[12:17] <tuxie> nbound, mcdenyer: apt-get remove, not uninstall
[12:17] <mcdenyer> nbound, well it has an install its just was installed using wine and is installed in wine folder
[12:17] <mcdenyer> tuxie, ok
[12:17] <nbound> tuxie, ohhh thats right =P
[12:17] <nbound> anyone here know how to change the automount script????
[12:17] <mwe> mcdenyer: use winecfg
[12:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: I guess you didn't get steam to work?
[12:18] <_jason> nbound: do you mean fstab?
[12:18] <mcdenyer> mwe no
[12:18] <mcdenyer> mwe looking for diff tutoiral
[12:18] <mcdenyer> mwe ill brb and ill show u what happebned
[12:18] <nbound> _jason, maybe, whatever gives a device its settings upon mounting
[12:19] <ian_> Is there a way to get the address bar up in nautilus in ubuntu?
[12:19] <ninnghizidha> _jason, got it - thanks a lot! *inside*
[12:19] <mwe> xavier_: find /etc/rc* -name "*firehol" paste that on pastebin
[12:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell nbound about mountwindows
[12:20] <_jason> nbound: read the 'manual' method in that wiki
[12:21] <xavier_> mwe: /etc/rc0.d/S36firehol           /etc/rc6.d/S36firehol           /etc/rcS.d/S41firehol
[12:21] <mwe> xavier_: alright. time to check the logfiles I guess
[12:22] <xavier_> mwe: I do it, but don't found any reference to errors....thanks for your support
[12:22] <nbound> _jason, hmmm thats only for static filesystems, i need to change it for a usb device
[12:22] <draconius> I just freshly reinstalled ubuntu, and I am having some sound issues: using ALSA, with both onboard and a PCI soundcard, if I do something like drag around terminals or switch virtual desktops, my sound gets terribly scratchy...but it is fine when I am not doing stuff like that...anybody have an idea?
[12:23] <nbound> draconius, try a diff sound system (like OSS for example)
[12:23] <Keyseir> I had an error while 'make'ing Mac On Linux on breezy. Did it from the tgz. The configure went fine, but the make had errors. The error is here: http://pastebin.com/510689 if someone would take a look. Thanks.
[12:23] <teclis> hello I have a little with knode ubuntu 5.10. Knode starts up without any problems. But when I try to configure knode, I got a blank Config-Menu. Can anyone help me?
[12:24] <ubuntu> hi all
[12:24] <ubuntu> i just have a question
[12:24] <ubuntu> i have a "trust" mouse
[12:24] <nbound> _jason, hmmm thats only for static filesystems, i need to change it for a usb device, any ideas?
[12:24] <ubuntu> it's optical
[12:24] <ubuntu> i can click but i can't move
[12:24] <ubuntu> using live 5.10
[12:24] <l3m_> is there a way to get an "osx"-like app menubar on top of ubuntu instead of the applications/places/system default? and how can i change the button order to osx order on the topleft of a window instead of windows topright?
[12:24] <nbound> ubuntu, maybe its dead ;)
[12:25] <HJ> are ubuntu respositories updated as newer versions of software come (like ebuilds with gentoo), or are they static with just updates for security/bug fixes (siuch as with suse)?
[12:25] <_jason> nbound: I see what you mean... It's automounting your usb device but not giving you permissions you like?  no I don't know what keeps track of that offhand
[12:25] <draconius> nbound: does the same thing :/
[12:25] <ubuntu> no, it's working under windows
[12:25] <kosta> using install 5.10
[12:25] <draconius> I previously had ubuntu running on this same hardware with alsa with no problems, all I did was reinstall
[12:25] <kosta> working under vmwarez
[12:25] <_jason> HJ: the latter, but there are backports when feasible
[12:25] <devilz> hey
[12:25] <nbound> draconius, why do u need two scards any way =/????
[12:25] <timfrost> xavier_, firehol isn't being started in the default runlevel.  Try 'sudo update-rc.d firehol start 1 2 3 4'
[12:26] <devilz> can i ask how can i get back into my linux, i installed windows and i cant see boot loader too choose windows or linux
[12:26] <NCLife> id like to knowi if there exists a how-to or guide to install gdesklets on ubuntu
[12:26] <devilz> and now i cant see linux
[12:26] <devilz> how can i get my linux back
[12:26] <nbound> _jason, hmmm damn, yeah i need it to force a sync after every command, i can do it atm, but i have to remount =/
[12:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell devilz about grub
[12:26] <devilz> i dont care about grub
[12:26] <devilz> just tell me how can i get
[12:27] <ubuntu> _jason: any ideas what to do with my "trust" optical mouse?
[12:27] <devilz> my boot loader back
[12:27] <_jason> devilz: read what ubotu sent you...
[12:27] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[12:27] <nbound> ubuntu, reconfigure x
[12:27] <mcdenyer> mwe well the install went good
[12:27] <nbound> !xorg
[12:27] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:27] <mcdenyer> mwe and then i tried to run it
[12:27] <ubuntu> ok
[12:27] <mcdenyer> mwe and it started up and started to update steam and then it just stopped
[12:27] <mcdenyer> mwe and i got some errors in console
[12:28] <mwe> timfrost: is rcS.d run in all runlevels?
[12:28] <mcdenyer> mwe i mean in terminal
[12:28] <nbound> mcdenyer, try again sometimes wine isnt stable...
[12:28] <NCLife> is it save to install the package of desklets on synaptic? do i need to install any other thing first before installing it?
[12:28] <mcdenyer> nbound, ive tried quite a few times
[12:28] <ubuntu> how to reconf X?
[12:28] <nbound> ubuntu i just told you
[12:28] <_jason> NCLife: do you mean gdesklets?  If so, yes it is safe
[12:28] <nbound> !xorg
[12:28] <ubotu> [xorg]  to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:28] <mcdenyer> mwe, im going to just try again and try different dlls
[12:29] <mwe> mcdenyer: did you update the dll references you were supposed to do in the config file, but which you couldn't because the tutorial is outdated?
[12:29] <ubuntu> sorry i can't scroll up :(
[12:29] <Hikaru79> NCLife, it's usually safe to install *anything* through Synaptic. It will automatically pull in any dependencies it needs.
[12:29] <mcdenyer> mwe btw i foud the dlls on a windows pc but some of them are .dl_ not .dll
[12:29] <nbound> ubuntu, i told u again just then
[12:29] <ubuntu> oh ok
[12:29] <mwe> mcdenyer: did you update the dll references you were supposed to do in the config file, but which you couldn't because the tutorial is outdated?
[12:29] <nbound> ubuntu, read what ubotu says (he's a bot)
[12:29] <mcdenyer> mwe no :P
[12:29] <ubuntu> i saw it
[12:29] <nbound> !xorg
[12:29] <ubotu> hmm... xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:29] <devilz>  can i ask how can i get back into my linux, i installed windows and i cant see boot loader too choose windows or linux
[12:29] <devilz> oops
[12:30] <devilz> i have kubuntu
[12:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to
[12:30] <NCLife> _jason and Hikaru79, thanks :)
[12:30] <meepy> Hmm, I want the windows libs using for compiling, what is the packages name?
[12:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: use winecfg though
[12:30] <mcdenyer> mwe ok can u help me do that?
[12:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: or it wont work
[12:30] <nbound> devilz, always install winf first then lin
[12:30] <mcdenyer> mwe ok is that a different wine i need to get?
[12:30] <nbound> win*
[12:30] <ubuntu> sorry i don't wanna flood, just need time to write down
[12:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: just run winecfg from the terminal
[12:30] <xavier_> mwe: System startup links for /etc/init.d/firehol already exist.
[12:30] <mcdenyer> mwe ok
[12:30] <ubuntu> !xorg
[12:30] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[12:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: no comes with wine
[12:30] <devilz> nbound, well i had problems with win
[12:30] <_jason> devilz: ubotu has told you how to do it.  Read what he sent you and if you have questions come back
[12:30] <devilz> so i needed to reinstall
[12:30] <devilz> _jason, yes yes
[12:30] <mwe> xavier_: yes
[12:30] <devilz> but i have kubuntu
[12:31] <devilz> and i write rescue
[12:31] <devilz> i get setup
[12:31] <ubuntu> let's see
[12:31] <nbound> devilz, i beleive there is some option, somewhere but i dont know it
[12:31] <mcdenyer> mwe,  so i just type winecfg in console?
[12:31] <mwe> xavier_: I believe /etc/rcS.d is run at runlevels 1-5, right?
[12:31] <xavier_> mwe: It's the output from your command !
[12:31] <mcdenyer> mwe i meen terminal
[12:31] <nbound> mcdenyer, yes
[12:31] <xavier_> mwe: yes
[12:32] <mcdenyer> nbound, wait is it wine.cfg?
[12:32] <mwe> xavier_: then that's not the problem. someone else suggested updating the runlevels not me
[12:33] <xavier_> mwe: sorry, all the help it's appreciate ;-)
[12:33] <mwe> xavier_: I don't know why it's not working. sorry
[12:33] <nbound> mcdenyer, NO.... winecfg
[12:33] <nbound> mcdenyer, sorry bout caps
[12:33] <mcdenyer> nbound, ok did it
[12:34] <mcdenyer> nbound, nothing really happened though
[12:34] <ubuntu> still can't use mouse. It's a PS/2 optical mouse
[12:34] <xavier_> mwe: don't worry..... I will investigate farder.. Thanks another time
[12:34] <mcdenyer> mwe oh and i noticed that one of the .dll files i got is in all CAPs and the other two arent does that matter?
[12:34] <nbound> mcdenyer, wait, if its the first run, its setting up ur fake c drive
[12:35] <mcdenyer> nbound, the c drive was already set up
[12:35] <mwe> nbound: he ran wine notepad already
[12:35] <nbound> mwe, oh ok
[12:35] <mcdenyer> mwe i ran winecfg and it didnt really do anything im just on a blank line now
[12:35] <ubuntu> nbound: any other piece of advice? I have ps/2 optical mouse
[12:36] <eddielee> hi guys
[12:36] <mcdenyer> mwe so do u think i should change the .dll to lower case?
[12:36] <mcdenyer> \
[12:36] <anders__> 
[12:36] <j2daosh> ok quick question... i order to make another user on my home network be able to access a certain shared folder (that user is on WinXP - i know.. but she dont wanna change to linux) how do i set the permission for just that one user?
[12:36] <mwe> mcdenyer: you dont need to I think
[12:37] <linux_user400354> i installed wu-ftp on ubuntu. is there something i have to do before my computer can be used for ftp?
[12:37] <Syco54645> is LD_LIBRARY_PATH the variable where library paths are stored
[12:37] <nbound> ubuntu, if it dont work which is weird, get another mouse, but 90% would be running ps/2 mice and they all use the same commands to the system (unless uve got one of those gay 5button mice :P)
[12:37] <nbound> 90% of us*
[12:37] <ubuntu> no...
[12:38] <mcdenyer> mwe i was just thinking since linux is case sensitive
[12:38] <mcdenyer> mwe ok so winecfg is running now what?
[12:38] <ubuntu> i get no red light from the device
[12:38] <mwe> mcdenyer: I think in wine it doesn't matter
[12:38] <mcdenyer> mwe, oik what now?
[12:38] <mwe> mcdenyer: set up the dll files like the tutorial says
[12:38] <ubuntu> perhaps i'll try and get some driver from trust
[12:38] <nbound> ubuntu, thats usually means its dead ;) try jiggling the plug, or turning ur system off and replugging
[12:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: the libraries tab
[12:39] <mcdenyer> mwe i did i just stuck them in the system foldeer
[12:39] <dracflamloc> anyone know how to get a unichrome pro working in ubuntu with full accel?
[12:39] <NCLife> _jason, the gdesklets-data package that is on synaptic, is it worthy to install? how can i deinstall it if i dont like it
[12:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to configure
[12:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: like the tutorial says
[12:39] <nbound> ubuntu, trust would just be a company relabeling the mouse
[12:39] <ubuntu> well, i rebooted from windoze, so it wasn't moved anyway...
[12:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to do what it says
[12:39] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm dont remeber that
[12:39] <mwe> mcdenyer: read again
[12:40] <ubuntu> it says ami mouse 2505 optical
[12:40] <cello_rasp> a few questions: i have just reinstalled and am wondering: what happened to the timer applet? and the values-based nic monitor? and how do i get thunderbird to accept my old profile info?
[12:40] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says to edit .wine/config. this is what you do instead in the new wine
[12:40] <nbound> mwe, you wouldnt happen to know the file that controls how usb devices are mounted?
[12:40] <poimen> what packages I need to Install to view h264  video?
[12:40] <ubuntu> any keyboard shortcut to maximize this window, pls?
[12:40] <_jason> NCLife: same way you install it, just right click and choose 'remove' or 'install' (can't remember which)
[12:40] <mwe> nbound: hotplug is taking care of mine
[12:41] <nbound> ubuntu, ALT+F9
[12:41] <_jason> NCLife: s/install/uninstall
[12:41] <mwe> nbound: I just plug in the usb device and it gets mounted automagically
[12:41] <nbound> OOOPS
[12:41] <McJerry> if someone has sent me raw partition data and in a file name.hda1 and i want to put that data on /dev/hda1 how would I?
[12:41] <ubuntu> lol
[12:41] <mcdenyer> mwe wait why am i following the tut if im not supposed to do what is says?
[12:41] <_jason> well that wouldn't work but you get the idea
[12:41] <nbound> ubuntu ALT+f10
[12:41] <mwe> mcdenyer: because the rest is valid
[12:41] <ubuntu> oh yeah!
[12:41] <ubuntu> finally :)
[12:41] <nbound> mwe, yeah so is mine, but it loads with wrong settings
[12:42] <Halai> hi wondering if i can get some help updating my open office and firefox and then adding shortcuts to my gui (launcher/desktop)
[12:42] <nbound> mwe, and i have to remount to get it to work properly
[12:42] <mcdenyer> mwe, ok what step number is it that im missing
[12:42] <mcdenyer> mwe, so i know where to look
[12:42] <linux_user400354> i installed wu-ftp on ubuntu. is there something i have to do before my computer can be used for ftp?
[12:42] <mwe> mcdenyer: I don't remember 2 something I think. where it tells you to install the dll files
[12:42] <cello_rasp> o well
[12:43] <mcdenyer> mwe, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?page=1&articleid=17
[12:43] <set> !compiling
[12:43] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:43] <mcdenyer> mwe well there s alot of stuff i skipped cuz it was one or the other
[12:43] <null> hello
[12:43] <null> just installed breezy
[12:44] <NCLife> thanks _jason
[12:44] <Ryan450> hey gang
[12:44] <mwe> mcdenyer: 2.2
[12:44] <null> whats the default root password ?
[12:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell null about root
[12:44] <cmpalmer> null: the root account is inacctive
[12:44] <tim> my screen update rate is horrible, my 3d graphics on my screensaver run nice but my window update rate is horrible is there any way to speed it u
[12:44] <nbound> tim, what drivers u using?
[12:44] <tristanmike> when installing java on Breezy are the gcc errors normal?
[12:44] <mcdenyer> mwe ok the hl2.reg part?
[12:44] <Halai> hi wondering if i can get some help updating my open office and firefox and then adding shortcuts to my gui (launcher/desktop), i'm not really sure where i'm supposed to be extracting the installers?
[12:44] <mwe> mcdenyer: you need to add the native, builtin order in winecfg
[12:45] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[12:45] <_jason> tristanmike: how are you installing java?  errors are probably not normal
[12:45] <tristanmike> _jason, via the wiki
[12:45] <Ryan450> just downloaded and installed ubuntu, its been a while since I last played around with linux.. anybody mind pointing me to apt repositories source file? (also need to know what repositories would be good to add for updated software)
[12:45] <y_o_u> evening ladies and gents. i am a linux/kubuntu noob trying to get my wireless usb NIC to work on kubuntu. i have gotten the drivers installed with ndiswrapper and the kwifimanger picks up my card and network fine, but as for connecting to google, that is not working. i just need some direction of what to do or where to look for some more guidance. thanks!
[12:45] <mwe> mcdenyer: sorry
[12:45] <mwe> mcdenyer: that was wrong
[12:45] <_jason> tristanmike: if you don't want to be bothered with compiling it yourself, there are readymade java deb's available
[12:45] <nbound> tim, what drivers u using?
[12:46] <mwe> mcdenyer: it's 3.2.1 you need to do all it says including installing dcom98
[12:46] <mcdenyer> mwe well i created the hl2.reg file in my home folder and then edited and thats it
[12:46] <cmpalmer> Ryan450: /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:46] <tim> nvidia ones from synaptec
[12:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell tristanmike about javadebs
[12:46] <mcdenyer> mwe but it says u dont need it with tthe latest wine
[12:46] <nbound> tim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-settings"
[12:46] <tristanmike> _jason, yeah, I'm checking it out now
[12:47] <nbound> tim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable"
[12:47] <mcdenyer> mwe above that section is says note: u dont need this with the latest wine so u can skip it
[12:47] <nbound> scrub the first one :P
[12:47] <tim> no let me try that
[12:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: sorry then. forget it
[12:47] <cmpalmer> Ryan450: uncomment universe if you want more packages available to you
[12:47] <nbound> tim, yeah u need to do that to enable the drivers =P
[12:47] <mcdenyer> mwe are u registered on this irc?
[12:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: I remember doing it a while back
[12:47] <y_o_u> no one else have any skills getting a wifi card working in kubuntu willing to share?
[12:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah
[12:47] <mcdenyer> mwe if so pm me so i can paste there error i got
[12:47] <nbound> tim, then restart and all should be fine
[12:47] <mwe> mcdenyer: You had to do it when I did it
[12:48] <schlomo> Hi
[12:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: ok
[12:48] <schlomo> using 2.6.12-9-386 kernel on Breezy
[12:48] <null> _jason, err.. the update manager thing doesn;t work
[12:48] <schlomo> trying to install ATI driver
[12:48] <tim> says command not found
[12:48] <nbound> schlomo fglrx
[12:48] <_jason> null: sorry, what are you referring to?
[12:48] <gnomefreak> null the update manger is broken on dapper :)
[12:48] <tim> root@ubuntu:/home/tim # sudo nvidia-glx-settings enable
[12:48] <tim> sudo: nvidia-glx-settings: command not found
[12:48] <tim> root@ubuntu:/home/tim #
[12:48] <schlomo> but I have an error Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module! when modprobe fglrx
[12:48] <mcdenyer> msg mwe hey
[12:48] <gnomefreak> it crashes :)
[12:48] <nbound> tim, did u run "sudo nvidia-glx-config enable"
[12:49] <nbound> tim, maybe thats it :P
[12:49] <mcdenyer> !pm
[12:49] <null> it asks for the root password but entering the _user_  password works
[12:49] <ubotu> [pm]  Ask your questions in the channel so that other people may also benefit from answers received.
[12:49] <schlomo> we can't use fglrx module in  2.6.12-9-386 ?
[12:49] <null> dunno why it says 'enter root password' then!!
[12:49] <nbound> schlomo, should be able to?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> null thats not broken its supposed to work with user password
[12:49] <_jason> null: mine says 'please enter your password'
[12:49] <mcdenyer> isnt it /msg nick to pm someone?
[12:49] <schlomo> nbound : nope modprobe failed
[12:49] <SEJeff> ubotu, tell null about sudo
[12:49] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer: yes
[12:50] <null> err.. i know about sudo and i just changed the root pwd too..
[12:50] <nbound> ubotu tell schlomo about ati
[12:50] <navarone> mcdenyer, you need to be registered to send pm's tho
[12:50] <gnomefreak> _jason: they all just ask for password not root
[12:50] <mcdenyer> navarone, hwo do i registe?R
[12:50] <null> anyway, it clearly says 'enter root password' and bails when the root pwd is put
[12:50] <nbound> schlomo, try those links
[12:50] <mcdenyer> mwe hey ive got to go ill be back in a few
[12:50] <mwe> mcdenyer: yes. you need to be registered and identified
[12:50] <set> where does firefox executable hang out?
[12:50] <schlomo> nbound : which ?*
[12:50] <tim> thanks nbound need to reboot
[12:50] <mcdenyer> mwe, got to take trash out
[12:50] <_jason> null: that may be because you enabled the root account-- which is disabled for a reason
[12:50] <nbound> tim yep reboot
[12:51] <vbgunz> I hate this... Something is wrong with my mount... I cannot mount my USB drive and I really do not wish to reboot
[12:51] <nbound> schlomo, check ur pms
[12:51] <navarone> mcdenyer, you msg nickserv like this /msg nickserv register <password> < -- where password is the pass you will need to use the current nick
[12:51] <nbound> pm's*
[12:51] <schlomo> nbound :yep
[12:51] <schlomo> nbound :thanks
[12:51] <vbgunz> can someone help me mount my USB drive... It always mounts *but* when it does this, logging in and out doesn't even work... Please, someone help!
[12:51] <null> _jason, ever since i installed ubuntu, it always has said 'enter root password' when clicking on the updates thingy on the panel
[12:51] <nbound> schlomo, no worries mate =)
[12:51] <metalo> hey everyone
[12:51] <null> which is why i first asked whats the default root passwd when i came here!
[12:51] <_jason> null: did you do a server install?
[12:51] <null> nope
[12:51] <navarone> gnomefreak, you use biometrics now? <s>
[12:51] <metalo> im having some problenms with a sony vaio laptop... more specifically its wireless
[12:51] <j2daosh> what do you mean vbgunz
[12:52] <gnomefreak> navarone: no
[12:52] <hyphenated> null: are you sure it asks for the root password, not your password?
[12:52] <metalo> since the day ive been using it the wifi suddenly switched off twice already
[12:52] <_jason> null: I don't have the updates thing right now so i can't check that.  Does opening synaptic mention 'root'?
[12:52] <schlomo> nbound : already what is in the doc
[12:52] <metalo> and i have no clue why. anyone can give me hints on how i can find out?
[12:52] <cello_rasp> hi _jason. i reinstalled ubuntu if you remember. ported over the user profile, and now i can't start synaptic. "sudo synaptic" on the command line returns nothin
[12:52] <gnomefreak> null same as gksudo it asks for password i dont even think it says "enter"
[12:52] <null> _jason, haven't tried synaptic yet
[12:52] <set> where do I find the placement for firefox executable file?
[12:53] <nbound> schlomo, hmmm well u could update to the newer kernel
[12:53] <_jason> cello_rasp: what does 'groups' return?
[12:53] <kiwipoo> metalo: anything in /var/log/syslog ?
[12:53] <metalo> kiwipoo: ill check that right away
[12:53] <cello_rasp> _jason: my username
[12:53] <_jason> cello_rasp: are you using the user you created during install?
[12:53] <DRK13> \lol/
[12:53] <null> anyway, are all users added to the admin group?
[12:53] <null> thats a borken system iirc
[12:53] <cello_rasp> _jason: no...
[12:53] <DRK13> 8[12:53] <hyphenated> only the initial user, null
[12:54] <kiwipoo> metalo: which dist are you on?  Breezy?
[12:54] <null> hyphenated, ok. good
[12:54] <Ryan450> is there anyway to reset the root password? I dont recall the installation prompting me to enter one, and I cannot log into root via terminal with the "su" command :S
[12:54] <ubuntu>  FFS...trust have no unix drivers
[12:54] <_jason> null: only the one you created during install, new users you'll have to add
[12:54] <kiwipoo> Ryan450: sudo su -??
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Ryan450about sudoroot
[12:54] <metalo> kiwipoo: yup, wifi working find when i first configured it. but suddenly stopped working a few minutes ago
[12:54] <cello_rasp> _jason: i see. if i delete that initial user will spm exec pass over to my current username?
[12:54] <NCLife> um, a silly question.. where can i find nice toolbars , or where do all the people get their big, transparent and nice toolbars
[12:54] <_jason> kiwipoo: no, use sudo -i or sudo -s to get a root terminal
[12:54] <metalo> kiwipoo: last time reboot helped. but not this time..
[12:54] <NCLife> from gdesklets?
[12:54] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Ryan450about root
[12:54] <_jason> cello_rasp: no
[12:54] <cello_rasp> damn
[12:54] <hyphenated> metalo: is it an intel wireless thing?
[12:55] <gnomefreak> wtf is wrong with ubotu?
[12:55] <hyphenated> metalo: ie.. ipw2200 driver?
[12:55] <_jason> cello_rasp: login with the user that has sudo access and do 'adduser your_new_user admin'
[12:55] <metalo> hyphenated: i think so
[12:55] <Ryan450> there we go, thank you :)
[12:55] <nbound> ubuntu, of course they dont, all mice use the same commands to the system
[12:55] <cello_rasp> ahhhhhh thank _jason B)
[12:55] <cello_rasp> laters :)
[12:55] <ToRTuReD_X> evenin
[12:55] <ToRTuReD_X> erm need a little help guys, i need to mount my 2nd hard drive
[12:55] <kiwipoo> metalo: pcmcia?
[12:56] <hyphenated> metalo: the driver might have 'crashed'. It's happened for me. in a shell, I type in 'dmesg' and the last few lines are nasty messages
[12:56] <metalo> kiwipoo: no, onboard with the vaio
[12:56] <nbound> ubuntu, those drivers just add a frontend in windows....
[12:56] <kiwipoo> lucky fella
[12:56] <ubuntu> i see
[12:56] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, is the drive brand new with nothing on it?
[12:56] <kiwipoo> go to System -> Admin -> Networking
[12:56] <ToRTuReD_X> navarone, no
[12:56] <ubuntu> i replugged it in, i saw the laser for 1 sec ans then dad again
[12:56] <ubuntu> dead*
[12:57] <nbound> ubuntu, are you SURE it works in windblows?
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> it's an old hard drive i need so i can download windows drivers so i can reinstall windows
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> <_<
[12:57] <ubuntu> yes i am
[12:57] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, could you copy and paste your fstab in pastebin for us to see what your setup is
[12:57] <nerochiaro> i have a problem with an USB hard disk. when i plug it in, the system mounts it, but read only. any idea on why this is happening ?
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> lmao
[12:57] <kiwipoo> then deactivate and activate the wlan0 device
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> been a while since i've used ubuntu
[12:57] <ToRTuReD_X> wanna give me a walk through
[12:57] <kiwipoo> if the wlan0 device is not there, then we have a problem
[12:57] <vbgunz> OMG. I hate this. Nothing works... I try sudo umount -f /dev/sdf1 OR /media/NW-HD1 and nothing umounts or mounts... I cannot mount my USB drive... It always mounts *but* when it acts up it is like only a reboot will fix it... I don't want to reboot, this is not Windows... I do not know how to fix it :(
[12:57] <metalo> hyphenated: nothing much in dmesg. just [4294929.198000]  eth0: no IPv6 routers present
[12:58] <kiwipoo> anything to do with wlan0?
[12:58] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, your fstab is in /etc folder...copy it and paste contents to pastebin
[12:58] <navarone> !pastebin
[12:58] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:58] <vbgunz> I go to disk manager to see if I can see it there... The disk manager window never ever loads up.... Just the icon of the circle waiting but the GUI seems frozen in wait... Anyone know what this is? It is horrible!
[12:59] <nbound> ubuntu, coz the light off is usualy its way of telling you, "im dead"
[12:59] <ubuntu> well.. if i turn off the pc and then log in to windows it's gonna be working
[12:59] <tim> thanks nbound seems to be running a lot better
[12:59] <ubuntu> same ways it goes with mandrake
[12:59] <nbound> tim, no worries mate =)
[12:59] <ToRTuReD_X> navarone, http://tx.pastebin.com/510749
[01:00] <ubuntu> when i load it it's dead. i turn off, turn on, log in to win and works again
[01:00] <nbound> ubuntu, u sure u set up ubuntu for usb mouse?
[01:00] <nbound> i mean ps2
[01:00] <vbgunz> how do I restart the disk service?
[01:00] <vbgunz> please someone tell me how to restart this server?
[01:00] <vbgunz> the disk manager or what ever it is] 
[01:00] <metalo> hyphenated kiwipoo i got something in /var/log/messages
[01:00] <ubuntu> well, it was auto and when i reconf'd X i didn't see any ps/2 usb option
[01:01] <metalo> hyphenated kiwipoo Jan 17 23:16:28 localhost kernel: [4299959.195000]  ipw2200: Firmware error detected.  Restarting.
[01:01] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, I assume you are only using this drive to store files for windows install?
[01:01] <kiwipoo> sounds like it,
[01:01] <kiwipoo> what model vaio?
[01:01] <nbound> ubuntu, there should have been an option =/ (i think)
[01:01] <ToRTuReD_X> navarone, nah it's my storage drive in general
[01:01] <ubuntu> ok I'll try x reconf again
[01:01] <nerochiaro> also. is there anyone that knows why my USB hard disk now gets automouned at /tmp/disks-conf-sda1 instead of the usual location under /media ?
[01:01] <metalo> kiwipoo: vgn-a170b
[01:02] <nbound> anyone know if u can put hotpluggable devices in ur fstab????
[01:02] <Alinux> pitti ?
[01:02] <navarone> okay ToRTuReD_X could you run sudo fdisk -l in terminala nd paste contents?
[01:02] <CanYouHelpMePlz> nbound: you can, my ipod is in fstab
[01:02] <nbound> CanYouHelpMePlz, thx now my PSP will be in there :P
[01:03] <ubuntu> ok, first question is 3-button emulation
[01:03] <_jason> ubuntu: that's not a question :)
[01:03] <metalo> kiwipoo: should i recompile the drivers? cause those one i use now are ones that came with breezy i think
[01:03] <nbound> ubuntu, no u dont want that
[01:04] <ubuntu> enable scroll events?
[01:04] <nbound> ubuntu, yep
[01:04] <ToRTuReD_X> navarone, http://tx.pastebin.com/510756
[01:04] <ubuntu> no other mouse questions
[01:04] <ubuntu> i get some paragraphs about VESA etc
[01:04] <nbound> hmmmm
[01:04] <freedom> hi
[01:05] <nbound> ubuntu, well i must say that im stumped
[01:05] <nbound> lol
[01:05] <ToRTuReD_X> i know /dev/hdb1 is the drive
[01:05] <ToRTuReD_X> it's just the mounting that confuses me
[01:05] <ubuntu> now X.org modules conf
[01:05] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, easiest thing for you to do is go here..
[01:05] <nbound> CanYouHelpMePlz, what did u put in for ur ipod?
[01:05] <navarone> !diskmounter
[01:05] <ubotu> somebody said diskmounter was to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:05] <blownout> hey guys i have a question
[01:05] <drac-laptop> god the ubuntu update servers are slow
[01:05] <nbound> blownout, just ask :p
[01:06] <Rubin> where would i ask a question about a problem compiling a universe package from deb-src?
[01:06] <blownout> how do you get something to start up when u start your system,  something like a simple script
[01:06] <null> !easysource
[01:06] <kiwipoo> metalo: that's not really the ubuntu way, but if you feel up to it.
[01:06] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:06] <nbound> CanYouHelpMePlz, what did u put in for ur ipod?????
[01:06] <__Dwayne> Ok..I have a curious question..I just tried to run 'make' in ndiswrapper on my laptop, and it halted because it couldn't find the kernel source in '/lib/modules/2.x.x.x'  any thoughts??
[01:06] <ubuntu> oh man...why oh why? a micro$oft mouse would have worked :(
[01:06] <kiwipoo> what does lsmod tell you, is the module still loaded?
[01:06] <navarone> ToRTuReD_X, did you get diskmounter url?
[01:06] <Unity> what are the bare minimum packages i should install to get kde? i don't want to install all of kubuntu-desktop i don't need most of that stuff
[01:07] <metalo> kiwipoo: yes i know that... but i like my software up to date... and the problem with ubuntu is that the less used packages are not very up to date... :\
[01:07] <mwe> Unity: kdebase
[01:07] <blownout> like where is the autoexec.bat
[01:07] <Rubin> blownout: /etc/init.d/*
[01:07] <Unity> mwe: i don't need kdesktop or kdm?
[01:07] <wastrel> u b u n t u
[01:07] <mcdenyer> mwe ok back
[01:07] <mwe> Unity: kdebase-bin in fact
[01:07] <metalo> kiwipoo: if the newer version solves my problem, then itll take ages to wait for the official package
[01:07] <jesse_cool5> i just installed my printer but it seems when i goto print through open office that it defualts to a5 page size i try changing it but it still printes out wrong
[01:07] <theneonshadow> how do i install w32codecs
[01:07] <mwe> Unity: you can stick with gdm if you like
[01:08] <mwe> Unity: or install kdm if you want
[01:08] <bimberi> blownout: /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[01:08] <mcdenyer> mwe now what do i need to do with winecfg running?
[01:08] <wastrel> jesse_cool5, ooh i have same prob - lemmie know if you figure it out
[01:08] <kiwipoo> metalo: I know,
[01:08] <__Dwayne> Ok..I have a curious question..I just tried to run 'make' in ndiswrapper on my laptop, and it halted because it couldn't find the kernel source in '/lib/modules/2.x.x.x'  any thoughts??
[01:08] <mwe> mcdenyer: you don't need it. I missed that you don't need it in the new wine
[01:08] <wastrel> i think because a5 is on the top of the list, it's the default
[01:08] <set> compiling: when you end up installing 200 additional applications
[01:08] <ToRTuReD_X> navarone, thanks that worked a charm :)
[01:08] <martin_> hi can anyone tell me how to disable the password prompt that comes up whenever I open my laptop lid
[01:08] <kiwipoo> I'm tempted by gentoo (again), but can't afford the time
[01:08] <navarone> no prob ToRTuReD_X
[01:09] <jesse_cool5> wastrel, shall do im playing around with a lot of settings
[01:09] <metalo> kiwipoo: how do i open .tgz files in here?... arent they a bit slackware specific?
[01:09] <theneonshadow> quick how do i install the w32codecs from my destop
[01:09] <set> !w32codecs
[01:09] <mcdenyer> mwe lol dang so i did everyhitng right and it doesnt work ;p
[01:09] <ubotu> well, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:09] <kiwipoo> tar -pzxf filename
[01:09] <_jason> set: nicely done, very quick :)
[01:09] <metalo> kiwipoo: ok nvm, tar solved it :P
[01:09] <Unity> mwe: and i want to start kde in a new display, how would i startx without having it go into gnome?
[01:09] <metalo> kiwipoo: ah thanks :P
[01:09] <set> _jason, I'm trying to learn :)
[01:10] <mwe> Unity: I don't use gnome but there's a new login somewhere in the menus
[01:10] <mwe> mcdenyer: you said steam stalled upon installing
[01:10] <_jason> Unity: it's under apps -> system tools -> new login
[01:10] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah it just cant start up
[01:10] <theneonshadow> ok so after i do the 'cd ~/Desktop
[01:10] <theneonshadow> sudo dpkg -i w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb' to unpac the w32codecs am i done
[01:11] <glacious> hello
[01:11] <_jason> theneonshadow: yep
[01:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: did install to 100%?
[01:11] <mwe> mcdenyer: or not start
[01:11] <theneonshadow> sweet, so i can watch the vids now?
[01:11] <mcdenyer> mwe yes how do u close a window in ubntu when it wont close like its frozen
[01:11] <_jason> theneonshadow: hopefully :)
[01:11] <theneonshadow> k thanks
[01:11] <ubuntu> byebye
[01:11] <glacious> so I got my SATA drive to show up during install on Dapper!! :)
[01:11] <kiwipoo> Unity: install xnest?
[01:12] <glacious> now i just need a way to get my refresh rate to change from 85.
[01:12] <mcdenyer> mwe it installed to 100 and then i tried running it and it started t oupdate steam and then it stop and just freezes and i have theses errors in terminal
[01:12] <glacious> is there a way to change your refresh rate in 6.04?  All thats listed is 85.
[01:12] <blownout> how do i add it in as a rc run level?
[01:12] <mcdenyer> mwe and now steam is running and is froze and icant close the window
[01:12] <mwe> mcdenyer: I guess you should try what the tutorial suggests
[01:12] <mcdenyer> mwe is there a way for me to stop it?
[01:13] <Unity> _jason: the new login says something about me needing to be in console mode
[01:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: killall wine-preloader
[01:13] <mcdenyer> mwe what does it suggesTY?
[01:13] <naer_dinsul> What package do I need for the kernel sources for my kernel?
[01:13] <Unity> _jason: i want to just open a new display with the welcome screen, how can i do that?
[01:13] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm dont remeb r that part
[01:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: this http://appdb.winehq.org/commentview.php?appId=1163&versionId=1554&threadId=10204
[01:13] <martin_> how do i disable to password prompt when returning from the screensaver
[01:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says to follow that if the update stalls
[01:13] <bimberi> naer_dinsul: do you want to compile the kernel?
[01:14] <set> can anyone help me with solving this?... http://pastebin.com/510766
[01:14] <wastrel> martin_, it's in system->preferences->screensaver
[01:14] <naer_dinsul> bimberi:  No, I'm trying to install TrueCrypt from source, and it requires the kernel sources to compile against.
[01:14] <mcdenyer> mwe well it doesnt really even get to the update u see
[01:14] <glacious> so there is no way to change your monitor's refresh from 85hz if that is the only mode listed?
[01:14] <tristanmike> upon inspection, it seems that I have libdvdcss2 version 1.2.5-1 but there is a deb for 1.2.9-0.0ubuntu0_i386.deb, should I just install the deb? or remove the old one, and install the new one, or don't worry about it?
[01:14] <mcdenyer> mwe in the tut it says that alot of time itll freeze at 27 percent
[01:14] <glacious> there are multiple resolutions, just one refresh :(
[01:15] <mcdenyer> mwe but mine doest even get to the actual update
[01:15] <metalo> why dont i have /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build/ ?
[01:15] <wastrel> martin_, uncheck the "lock screen after" checkbox.
[01:15] <null> is kde available from universe?
[01:15] <mcdenyer> mwe i htink it might be a bad shlwapi
[01:15] <mwe> set: install libgtk2.0-dev
[01:15] <null> whats multiverse?
[01:15] <martin_> oh wait do i have to check that lock screen box and set it to 0 minutes? that's kinda counter-intuitive
[01:15] <wastrel> martin_,  you have to restart the screensaver daemon for changes to take effect
[01:15] <bimberi> naer_dinsul: you probably only need the headers - "sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname-r)", for the full source install "linux-tree"
[01:15] <martin_> it was unchecked
[01:15] <wastrel> martin_, file->restart daemon
[01:15] <Unity> what command would i issue to open a new Xorg with the welcome screen in it?
[01:15] <naer_dinsul> bimberi:  Thanks...  I'll try that...
[01:15] <mcdenyer> mwe i need to restart cuaser i cant close steam
[01:15] <mcdenyer> mwe brb
[01:15] <bimberi> naer_dinsul: np :)
[01:16] <kiwipoo> metalo: have you installed linux-source?
[01:16] <rendi> helllpp
[01:16] <rendi> Reading package lists... Done
[01:16] <rendi> W: GPG error: http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release: Could not execute /usr/bin/gpgv to verify signature (is gnupg installed?)
[01:16] <metalo> kiwipoo: oh right, i thought it was the headers... thanks
[01:16] <jesse_cool5> !w32codecs
[01:16] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:16] <martin_> it didn't work
[01:16] <martin_> it was unchecked
[01:17] <martin_> i checked it, restarted, unchecked it again, restarted and it still prompts me when I close and open my lid
[01:17] <set> mwe: thanks :)
[01:17] <maddash> I've got a little problem with ipw2200; it consistently causes a kernel-panic whenever I try downloading via bittorrent and accessing the internet through firefox...can anyone help?
[01:17] <hyphenated> null: you can install KDE by installing the 'kubuntu-desktop' package. it should be in main
[01:17] <wastrel> hm i think that's a different thing... suspend w/ laptopy kindof thing... i dunno from laptops
[01:18] <jrattner1> I'm installing ubuntu on my Dad's server tomorrow, is there any howto regarding POP accounts, I want to set up an employee email system
[01:18] <metalo> kiwipoo: is it: sudo apt-get source linux-image-2.6.12-9-386 ?
[01:18] <martin_> yeah I think it has something to do with the power settings but I have it set to do nothing when I close the lif
[01:18] <martin_> *lid
[01:18] <hyphenated> metalo: you don't need 'sudo' for downloading source packages
[01:19] <mcdenyer> hey how do i registeR?
[01:19] <null> hyphenated, will i get kde 3.5 ?
[01:19] <null> or for that i need to add some repos for kbuntu or something?
[01:19] <mcdenyer> !register
[01:19] <ubotu> register is, like, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[01:19] <hyphenated> null: you won't need to add any repositories
[01:19] <mwe> mcdenyer:
[01:19] <hyphenated> null: and the version you get depends on which ubuntu release you're using
[01:19] <mwe> mcdenyer: it says "Steam may crash when updating at 27%. If it does so, follow the instructions described on"
[01:19] <kiwipoo> sudo apt-get install linux-source (I think it's a holder package pointing to the actual kernel you have installed)
[01:20] <metalo> hyphenated: right right.
[01:20] <null> hyphenated, breezy
[01:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: see the updating part?
[01:20] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah and i dont crash at 27
[01:20] <metalo> kiwipoo: i see, thanks
[01:20] <mcdenyer> mwe i dont update at all
[01:20] <null> hyphenated, so i don;t need to add any repo and can just install kbuntu-desktop
[01:20] <mcdenyer> mwe and i have errors in temrinal i think i need to fix
[01:20] <hyphenated> null: if you want to check the details, go to packages.ubuntu.com
[01:20] <bimberi> jrattner1: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MailServer
[01:20] <kiwipoo> it will install the source in /usr/src
[01:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: then paste them
[01:20] <rbennett> can someone help me fix firefox...
[01:20] <hyphenated> null: if you spell it right, yes ;-)
[01:20] <mwe> mcdenyer: pastebin
[01:20] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak hey how do i register so i can pm
[01:20] <rbennett> i tried to install 1.5 from a website...
[01:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: are you regisered?
[01:21] <null> hyphenated, lol.. :)
[01:21] <mcdenyer> mwe working on it
[01:21] <rbennett> anyway...darn thing won't launch now
[01:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: and identified?
[01:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: _you_ need to be registered to /msg someone
[01:21] <mwe> mcdenyer: not them
[01:21] <mcdenyer> mwe i know
[01:21] <metalo> kiwipoo: is it an alternative to cd /usr/src and apt-get source kernel-image-blabla?
[01:21] <mcdenyer> mwe im working on getting reigsterd
[01:22] <Ryan450> anybody know sound well here? my sound is not working, sadly I've no idea where to start (been away from linux desktops for way too long)
[01:22] <maddash> gnome-btdownload keeps causing a kernel-panic; can someone help?
[01:22] <anunesjr_> hello
[01:22] <mwe> mcdenyer: or just use the pastebin
[01:23] <kiwipoo> it will just pull in the kernel source + any ubuntu specific patches (is that what you mean?)
[01:23] <hyphenated> maddash: a kernel panic? that's pretty heavy. what messages do you get?
[01:23] <mwe> mcdenyer: you didn't need to reboot to kill steam
[01:23] <Dreamglider> i get this douring boot "[4294732.043000]  <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt"
[01:23] <Dreamglider> is it fixable ?
[01:23] <kiwipoo> upon re-reading your question, yes
[01:23] <jesse_cool5> is it possible to have it use my speakers instead of that crappy internal beep?
[01:23] <kiwipoo> but it will update as you install a new version of the linux-kernel
[01:24] <null> hyphenated, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php   <-- sya si need to add to sources list
[01:24] <maddash> hyphenated: I can only receive messages when i a) start bittorrent and then b) quickly switch to ctrl+alt+f2 mode
[01:24] <metalo> kiwipoo: would you mind prefixing with my nick please? its sometimes difficult to find what you say
[01:24] <mwe> jesse_cool5: you can in kde. also you can always disable the annoying beep at least
[01:24] <maddash> hyphenated: and I don't really know how to record the error message, because after the error info is displayed, the system freezes up
[01:24] <hyphenated> maddash: tricky. they don't go into any of the log files in /var/log ?
[01:24] <jesse_cool5> mwe, im using gnome tho
[01:25] <mwe> jesse_cool5: you can still disable the beep
[01:25] <kiwipoo> metalo: sorry
[01:25] <wastrel> disable the beep
[01:25] <hyphenated> null: that's to get v3.5, because it's not breezy's default version
[01:25] <maddash> hyphenated: checking now
[01:25] <metalo> kiwipoo: np :P
[01:25] <null> hyphenated, ah ok..
[01:26] <mwe> jesse_cool5: when do you get the beep? in the terminal?
[01:26] <VeRiTTo> HI
[01:26] <null> hyphenated, so if i add this source to my sources list, how will synaptic know to get the new version of kubuntu-desktop instead of the older version from main ?
[01:26] <Crell42> Strange problem.  I'm trying to nmap a server on my local network, but for some reason nmap keeps complaining about the netmask.  nmap -v 192.168.1.100 --That should be a valid command, right?
[01:26] <metalo> kiwipoo: i did what i said and still dont have that /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/build directory...
[01:26] <Ryan450> looking over my Device Manager, I see its detected my SB Live! EMU10K1 sound card, but when I go to the prefrences/sound there is no device to choose from in that menu. anybody know possible solutions?
[01:26] <jesse_cool5> mwe, or when an error box comes up
[01:27] <theneonshadow> wheres a good site that i can download a linux driver for a cannon bjc-2110 printer
[01:27] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, in a terminal, run: lsmod | grep emu10k1
[01:27] <mcdenyer> mwe i posted my error in that pm
[01:27] <mwe> jesse_cool5: I don't know about the error box. I think you can configure it in the settings somewhere
[01:27] <_jason> ubotu: tell theneonshadow about print
[01:27] <wastrel> theneonshadow, did you try linuxprinting.org?
[01:27] <mwe> mcdenyer: did get any pm
[01:27] <jesse_cool5> mwe, lol im thinking of just ripping the thing out
[01:27] <mwe> jesse_cool5: in /etc/inputrc uncomment 'set bell-style none' to get rid of the bash beep
[01:28] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: k, did that.. did you want me to send you that output in external window? (dont want to flood channel)
[01:28] <mwe> jesse_cool5: yeah :|
[01:28] <mwe> jesse_cool5: just remove the connector from the mobo
[01:28] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, if it output a bunch o stuff then it should be working. have you run alsamixer?
[01:28] <mwe> jesse_cool5: I did that oncy because it pissed me off
[01:28] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: not yet, how do I start that?
[01:29] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, it may also be using OSS drivers. why dont you go to System->Prefernces->Multimedia systems selector and choose OSS for both
[01:29] <drac-laptop> and try playing something ith xmms
[01:29] <mcdenyer> mwe yes i recieved it now look at it....
[01:30] <mwe> mcdenyer: I didn't get any pm from you
[01:30] <mcdenyer> mwe click on the Mcdenyer right under trhe place where you type your chat messages
[01:30] <jesse_cool5> mwe, there isnt that line in the file
[01:31] <kiwipoo> metalo: have you seen http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=26623&highlight=ipw2200+source
[01:31] <Unity> how do i start kde from the console?
[01:31] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: k, input was set to OSS, just switched my output to OSS as well, but when I hit the test I get "Failed to construct test piple for 'OSS - Open Sound System' "
[01:31] <drac-laptop> what if you choose ALSA?
[01:31] <maddash> hyphenated: there's nothing in the system logs
[01:31] <metalo> kiwipoo: yes, ive got that open, but just read through it...
[01:31] <wastrel> Unity, startx  ?
[01:31] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: same thing
[01:31] <Unity> wastrel: that goes into gnome
[01:31] <drac-laptop> do this for me: ls -l /dev/dsp
[01:32] <wastrel> Unity, try kde-start  ...
[01:32] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: ls: /dev/dsp: No such file or directory
[01:32] <wastrel> it's been a while since i fooled around with kde
[01:32] <jesse_cool5> mwe, well that fixes the beep in the terminal
[01:32] <mcdenyer> stop
[01:32] <metalo> kiwipoo: ill do what they say in the article then, thanks for drawing my attention back to it :P
[01:32] <Unity> wastrel: that commad was not found
[01:32] <wastrel> heh i dunno
[01:32] <jesse_cool5> mwe, but i still get the beep whenin openoffice and it says do you want to save or discard
[01:32] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, ok so then it isnt setup properly. hmm. try: (as root) modprobe snd-emu10k1
[01:33] <phiber_optic> anyone knows how to install limewire?
[01:33] <wastrel> phiber_optic, sudo apt-get install gtk-gnutella
[01:33] <kiwipoo> metalo: no problem, unfortunately don't have the hardware to compare.  Best of luck
[01:33] <Unity> ubotu tell phiber_optic about limwire
[01:33] <metalo> kiwipoo: thanks :] 
[01:33] <phiber_optic> ubotu tell phiber_optic about limewire
[01:34] <swat_> where can i talk about issues with develeopment ubuntu?
[01:34] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: dang, just asked this not long ago either.. su - then pass isnt working for me.. what parameter did I have to feed it again?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> swat_: did you file bugs?
[01:35] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, ok so then it isnt setup properly. hmm. try: sudo modprobe snd-emu10k1
[01:35] <swat_> gnomefreak: i'm not sure if it is a bug you see
[01:35] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: k, did that
[01:35] <drac-laptop> do: lsmod | grep snd
[01:36] <drac-laptop> paste the line here. if its multiple lines PM me
[01:36] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: lots of stuff for output..
[01:37] <pansonic> how do you install a .deb
[01:37] <jesse_cool5> to install xine do i need to add other repositories?
[01:37] <TomaszL> pansonic: sudo dpkg -i package.deb
[01:37] <phiber_optic> pansonic sudo dpkg -i pack name
[01:37] <pansonic> thanks guys
[01:37] <_jason> jesse_cool5: no, are you looking for actual xine or totem-xine
[01:38] <bimberi> swat_: there is #ubuntu-devel or the mailing list ( http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel )
[01:38] <y_o_u> hello all, quick question. can you enable a wireless card via the command line, or is it in the gui only? having problems with the network settings window. thanks
[01:38] <jesse_cool5> _jason, which is better?
[01:38] <Pegger> what do people use to make netowrk maps?
[01:39] <_jason> jesse_cool5: they are the same I suppose.  Totem-xine is just totem but with the xine backend.  xine-ui is umm, I'll send you a nice link with pictures :)  (I would try them both if I were you and keep the one I liked)
[01:39] <_jason> ubotu: tell jesse_cool5 about multimedia
[01:39] <jesse_cool5> good ol bot
[01:41] <christopher> Hello, I am new to ubuntu/debian and would like to know how to install an already downloads .deb file with apt-get
[01:41] <y_o_u> hello all, quick question. can you enable a wireless card via the command line, or is it in the gui only? having problems with the network settings window. thanks
[01:41] <wastrel> y_o_u, i've never managed to get wifi working on the cli, i use the gui dealy
[01:41] <christopher> correction: downloaded
[01:42] <jesse_cool5> _jason, what would be the best program for streaming music?
[01:42] <blacks> christopher, sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[01:42] <metalo> christopher: sudp dpkg -i filename
[01:42] <christopher> ok thanks
[01:42] <maddash> hyphenated: kernel panics again when I try updating the kernel image (won't allow completion of download);
[01:42] <y_o_u> wastrel: ever have a problem with the gui? when i click the administrator mode button, it asks for password, i enter it, it seems to work, then goes back to asking me to hit the administrator mode button. cant figure that out
[01:42] <maddash> hyphenated: is there any way for me to record the error message?
[01:43] <eggman> Hello
[01:44] <_jason> jesse_cool5: personally, I like mplayer.  But totem-xine and vlc are good choices as well
[01:44] <eggman> I need some help with Xorg
[01:44] <jhunita> hello
[01:44] <_jason> !helpme
[01:44] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[01:44] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: Still around man? (just checkin, silent treatment is scaring me :S)
[01:44] <hyphenated> maddash: not really.
[01:44] <jesse_cool5> _jason,  ok thx
[01:44] <eggman> i have a forum post which explains my situation
[01:45] <mcdenyer> hey anyone here ever install steam?
[01:45] <_jason> ubotu: tell eggman about ask
[01:45] <wastrel> y_o_u, i don't have a laptop anymore :]    but i don't recall having that prob...
[01:45] <eggman> i dont have a link as im using xchat-text but if you look for my nam
[01:45] <eggman> on the forums you can find it
[01:46] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, oh, yea sorry. workin on my own comp too =) but yea now try and run "alsamixer" in a terminal
[01:46] <Ryan450> drac-laptop:no worries :)..
[01:46] <y_o_u> wastrel: thanks anyways
[01:46] <phiber_optic> is limewire better than gtk-gnutella?
[01:46] <eggman> The problem is I installed the nvidia driver with the wiki instructions and now my xserver wont start
[01:46] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory
[01:47] <drac-laptop> Ryan450, damn, weird. i dunno what to do beyond that. have you checked the ubuntu wiki/forums?
[01:47] <drac-laptop> its a very common card
[01:47] <ettkommanoll> hi dudes i'm just wondering if anyone could just tell me how to apt-get an ftp client?
[01:47] <eggman> use fireftp
[01:47] <phiber_optic> is limewire better than gtk-gnutella?
[01:47] <y_o_u> is it possible to login to kubuntu as root anyone?
[01:47] <eggman> its an extension for firefox
[01:48] <ettkommanoll> eggman; allright, howto?
[01:48] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: not yet, I always try irc room first
[01:48] <bimberi> ettkommanoll: or use nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server...
[01:48] <eggman> get it from the firefox extensions page
[01:48] <eggman> or just search the firefox site for it
[01:49] <theneonshadow> how do i install a .tar.gz driver
[01:49] <KonvIRC> hi
[01:49] <ettkommanoll> connect to server-> didnt work out at all i've alreay tested it..
[01:49] <phiber_optic> how can I install java? sudo apt-get install java?
[01:49] <ettkommanoll> allright i hopa fireftp will do the trick!
[01:49] <eggman> as do i
[01:49] <y_o_u> is it possible to login to kubuntu as root anyone?
[01:50] <jhunita> m trying to add user but its not accepting my password.. how can i resolve this?
[01:50] <theneonshadow> how do i install a .tar.gz driver for a printer
[01:50] <Ryan450> drac-laptop: Thnx for your time + suggestions.. this ones got me stumped too.. will hit the forums and see what they can come up with.. if you have a link handy that'll save me a little bit of search time :P
[01:50] <timfrost> ubotu, tell y_o_u about root
[01:50] <toko123> timfrost, tellme about root too
[01:50] <KonvIRC> how I can unlock APT database?
[01:50] <theneonshadow> how do i install a .tar.gz or .ppc.dmg driver for a printer
[01:51] <blacks> KonvIRC, make sure you don't have synaptic or the updater thingee open
[01:51] <Toba|BSD> hey... I changed some video hardware
[01:51] <timfrost> !root
[01:51] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:51] <Toba|BSD> and now the x server won't start
[01:51] <KonvIRC> blacks, no
[01:51] <Toba|BSD> is there a way to access the script that does the auto-video-setup thing that is in the ubuntu isntall?
[01:51] <Toba|BSD> I really hope somebody can help me :(
[01:51] <phiber_optic> is limewire better than gtk-gnutella?
[01:51] <eggman> its dk
[01:52] <timfrost> Toba|BSD, have you tried 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'?
[01:52] <Toba|BSD> no, I'll try that
[01:52] <Toba|BSD> thank you
[01:52] <eggman> www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=665458
[01:52] <bimberi> phiber_optic: opinions vary widely :)
[01:52] <phiber_optic> bimberi I cannot connect to gnutella
[01:52] <phiber_optic> it finds nothing
[01:53] <toko123> gdict on ubuntu does nt open an applet that can reside in the panel waiting for a word to look up?
[01:53] <toko123> it does in fc4
[01:54] <phiber_optic> how do I unsinstall a zipped package?
[01:54] <toko123> I can add the picture of a book to the panel but i'd like to have a box to type my words into
[01:54] <bimberi> phiber_optic: unsure about that sorry, could it be ports being blocked
[01:54] <eggman> Can someone help me restore a xorg.conf file, i have a backup in /var/backups/xorg
[01:55] <phiber_optic> how can I check the ports that are blocked?
[01:55] <matitaccia> Hello! I would like to install ubuntu on a notebook which has already windows installed on it. So I have read the wiki about dual booting and installing a dual boot. Still it's not clear for me: which is the bootmanager that ubuntu uses? Which parameters should I write in, in order to get windows running? In the wiki is described how I should partition my disc, nothing else.
[01:55] <bimberi> phiber_optic: upstream i mean (none are blocked in ubuntu by default)
[01:55] <toko123> phiber_optic, MAN NMAP
[01:55] <beelzebub1987> Anyone here know if WinRar can open .7z files, because I want to make a 7z archive with archive manager.
[01:56] <timfrost> eggman, sudo cp /var/backups/xorg/xorg.conf /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[01:56] <phiber_optic> so why could I connect to gnutella...
[01:56] <bimberi> phiber_optic: you said you couldn't...
[01:56] <phiber_optic> I couldnt i mean sorry
[01:56] <Toba|BSD> timfrost: thanks for the info, it seems to be working so far
[01:56] <maddash> !ipw2200
[01:56] <ubotu> maddash: Wish i knew
[01:56] <maddash> !ipw
[01:56] <ubotu> maddash: parse error: dunno what the heck you're talking about
[01:56] <phiber_optic> it says you appear to be firewalled .....
[01:56] <Toba|BSD> I just hope x starts :(
[01:56] <maddash> !ieee80211
[01:56] <ubotu> maddash: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:57] <maddash> !wireless
[01:57] <ubotu> wireless is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[01:57] <eggman> i doubt
[01:57] <eggman> thanks worked like a charm
[01:57] <bimberi> phiber_optic: i mean your isp perhaps,
[01:57] <bimberi> phiber_optic: note that gtk-gnutella works reasonably well for me even though it says its firewalled
[01:57] <phiber_optic> how can I know if it works...
[01:57] <Toba|BSD> but... it does not work.
[01:58] <phiber_optic> since I search somehting and it doesnt find anything
[01:58] <Toba|BSD> fucking hell.
[01:58] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[01:58] <Toba|BSD> :(
[01:58] <bimberi> matitaccia: ubuntu uses grub, the install should detect the windows partition and configure the dual boot automatically
[01:58] <tim> anyone here really good with samba?
[01:59] <draconius> tim: what do you need to do?
[01:59] <gerst> if I`m using qemu running windoz under ubuntu how can I save files under my home dir from qemu?
[01:59] <bimberi> !anyone
[01:59] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[01:59] <matitaccia> bimberi, so I don't have to do nothing hein... mmm.... I have been having some troubles with my SATA Hdd so I'm a bit suspicious. I think I'll wait until I have a second PC with me, cause at the moment it could be "dangerous"...
[02:00] <tim> i got a public share to work and username
[02:00] <tim> works fine can see it with my windows machine
[02:00] <phiber_optic> How can I install java?
[02:00] <Syco54645> bimberi: i am realizing that noone is good with my question
[02:00] <draconius> phiber_optic: use synaptic
[02:00] <bimberi> matitaccia: might be a good idea
[02:00] <bimberi> Syco54645: but have you asked it?
[02:00] <matitaccia> bimberi, thx. 'night.
[02:00] <Syco54645> can anyone give me some help on pinning, the guide isnt working for me
[02:00] <tim> now i want to start adding drives to the server but i have questions on some of what i did
[02:00] <phiber_optic> draconius do you know how to uninstall an application that I installed by unzipping it?
[02:00] <Syco54645> bimberi: that is the question
[02:00] <tim> sudo mkdir /home/public
[02:00] <tim> sudo chmod 777 /home/public/
[02:00] <tim> sudo cp /etc/samba/smb.conf /etc/samba/smb.conf_backup
[02:00] <tim> sudo gedit /etc/samba/smb.conf
[02:01] <tim> what is the 777 for?
[02:01] <Felix15> is it possible to switch to tcsh?
[02:01] <draconius> phiber_optic: remove the directory where you unzipped it?
[02:01] <Syco54645> bimberi: i have been asking it for a at least 5 hours
[02:01] <draconius> phiber_optic: did you try manually installing java?
[02:01] <gpled> what is the local package manager called?
[02:01] <phiber_optic> noop
[02:01] <Syco54645> bimberi: since yesterday
[02:01] <draconius> tim: and?
[02:01] <phiber_optic> I manually installed limewire
[02:01] <bimberi> Syco54645: unfortunately that's not a good question.  What are you trying to achieve?
[02:01] <jhunita> how can i install java jre to function as a plugin for firefox?
[02:01] <Syco54645> tim: 777 is the chmod for executable writable blah
[02:01] <bimberi> !java
[02:01] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:01] <draconius> phiber_optic: one sec
[02:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tim: It sets the permissions to read/write/execute for all users and groups on the file.
[02:02] <tim> so that in way sets the permissions
[02:02] <tim> k
[02:02] <Syco54645> bimberi: i am trying to keep wine from being upgraded... and i find the guide on the wiki to be most confusing and the fact that it causes errors when you follow it isnt a good sign
[02:02] <y_o_u> to anyone, please help. kubuntu noob here and cant get my wireless usb NIC to work, very, very frustrating. the thing is not enabled (i have all the drivers installed using ndiswrapper), picks up the network, but when i try to enable it in network settings, it wont let me log on in "administrator mode". ideas greatly appreciated. thanks
[02:02] <draconius> phiber_optic: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-4c7e4207c354be7cb50a2c3c9ae6dae5e73bb6a4
[02:02] <bimberi> Syco54645: use Package -> Lock Version in Synaptic
[02:03] <CyberSlug> I have recently tried to compile a number of different versions of the kernel - they compile fine, and using mkinitrd I can get the init file - but when I try to load it it complains about missing modules : module not found: /lib/modules/.../modules.dep not found - Unable to sync (or something like that)... Does anyone know what the problem is?
[02:03] <draconius> tim: 777 means that anybody has read/write/execute permissions on files in that folder
[02:03] <Syco54645> bimberi: ah ok... this guide that i have appears to be out of date https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto
[02:03] <cello_rasp> i can't launch synaptic!
[02:03] <tim> i am about to plug in my raid tower when i partition it what file system should i use
[02:03] <phiber_optic> thanx
[02:04] <draconius> tim: ext3 for best speed, IIRC (not sure though)
[02:04] <bimberi> Syco54645: yeah, although pinning is pretty complicated.  That was a better question by the way :)
[02:04] <Felix15> hey, for a school project I'm required to work in the tcsh shell. I've dloaded it from synamptic.  but I don't know how to switch.  Does somebody know how to switch shells?
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> oh
[02:04] <Toba|BSD> chsh
[02:04] <Unity> does anyone know how to run multiple windows managers?
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> and use the vi that pops up to edit the shell line
[02:05] <CyberSlug> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> if you don't know how to use vi google for "vi tutorial" or do man vi
[02:05] <Syco54645> bimberi: i have been using linux for 6 years now... at least and that guide is the most confusing that i have come across.  besides i prefer command line to graphical
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> CyberSlug: what was your question again?
[02:05] <CyberSlug> I have recently tried to compile a number of different versions of the kernel - they compile fine, and using mkinitrd I can get the init file - but when I try to load it it complains about missing modules : module not found: /lib/modules/.../modules.dep not found - Unable to sync (or something like that)... Does anyone know what the problem is?
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> Unity: I don't think you can do that (at least not at the same time)
[02:05] <Syco54645> bimberi: but thanks that is just what i needed... now the update thing wont break my special wine
[02:05] <Toba|BSD> sorry CyberSlug I have no idea
[02:05] <CyberSlug> Toba|BSD, NP
[02:06] <bimberi> Syco54645: just had a look, and definitely agree :|
[02:06] <phiber_optic> how can i unistall something that I manually unzipped, just by deleting the folder to where it was unzipped?
[02:06] <eggman_> Felix15 did you try typing tcsh at a command propmt?
[02:06] <cello_rasp> how do i get smbmount?
[02:06] <tim> what program should i use to partition?
[02:06] <bimberi> Syco54645: unfortunately Packages -> Lock Version is the extent of my pinning knowledge - just enough to help you :)
[02:07] <Syco54645> bimberi: if you leave the Pin-Priority: <pin's priority> part off like the author says, it causes synaptic to error.  a 0 causes an error too and you have to click to make it go any more
[02:07] <Felix15> eggman_: heh yeah that worked.  I thought I needed sh or chsh or something like that. Thanks
[02:07] <Syco54645> bimberi: it is really quite annoying
[02:07] <eggman_> Felix No problem
[02:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> phiber_optic: If you've been running it from the folder you unzipped it to, yeah, just deleting that folder should get rid of it.
[02:07] <cached> what do you all seem to find better in general (for a computer programmer type), ubuntu or kubuntu?
[02:07] <bimberi> Syco54645: looks like there a wiki page editing task just made for you :)
[02:08] <KonvIRC> hi
[02:08] <KonvIRC> how I can unlock APT database?
[02:08] <cached> hi
[02:08] <Unity> Toba|BSD: what command can i issue to get a duplicate of the Xserver that starts when i boot. but on a different display
[02:08] <phiber_optic> I am installing java and i get the following Grant the "stopThread" RuntimePermission?   should I click on yes or no
[02:08] <cached> konvirc: what do you mean?
[02:08] <Syco54645> bimberi: i own my own wiki that i need to get working on.  and the forum.  splra.org ;)
[02:08] <Syco54645> bimberi: but now i need to eat.  thanks alot for the help with this.
[02:09] <KonvIRC> cached, my APT database is locked
[02:09] <bimberi> Syco54645: np :)
[02:09] <cached> KonvIRC: as in, you don't have rights to it?
[02:09] <phiber_optic> I am installing java and i get the following Grant the "stopThread" RuntimePermission?   should I click on yes or no
[02:09] <eggman_> click yes
[02:10] <kasemodz> hey has anyone installed proftpd before?
[02:10] <phiber_optic> thanx eggman
[02:10] <gnomefreak> KonvIRC: more than likey its locked because you have more than 1 apt app open and running
[02:10] <eggman_> Thats what I clicked atleast ;)
[02:10] <gnomefreak> s/likey/likely
[02:10] <cached> KonvIRC: you there?
[02:11] <KonvIRC> cached, no I just boot th ePC
[02:11] <kasemodz> i installed proftpd and when i try to connect it from another machine i get th login window and i type my username and password. when i press enter, it tries to login then comes back to the login window
[02:11] <cached> KonvIRC: I assume you are doing sudo apt-get blah blah blah?
[02:11] <kasemodz> anyone know how to fix that
[02:11] <KonvIRC> noo
[02:12] <KonvIRC> the APT database is locked the last 5 days
[02:12] <kasemodz> not its kon
[02:12] <cached> what happens when you do sudo apt-get update
[02:12] <kasemodz> konv just do sudo apt-get update
[02:13] <kasemodz> so yeah can anyone help me with proftpd
[02:13] <cached> kasemodz: beat you to it :P
[02:13] <kasemodz> lol cached
[02:14] <cached> kasemodz: must it be that specific ftp client
[02:14] <KonvIRC> the database is UNLOCKED thanks!!!!
[02:14] <kasemodz> well its actually just a daemon
[02:14] <martinc> can anyone help me install amaroK
[02:14] <kasemodz> im trying to run a a ftp server
[02:14] <cached> oh
[02:14] <_jason> martii, sudo apt-get install amarok
[02:14] <armosfighter> where do i go to change my external drive to make it DMA
[02:14] <_jason> martinc, ^
[02:14] <kasemodz> and the one i found of ubuntu forums was proftpd i dont care which daemon i use as long as it work
[02:14] <cached> hmmm i have NO experience with server stuff on any recent OS
[02:14] <martinc> it gives me dependencies which it won't install
[02:15] <kasemodz> ok
[02:15] <cached> last time i set up a server was probably 1995
[02:15] <_jason> martinc, have you enabled universe and multiverse?
[02:15] <kasemodz> oh lol
[02:15] <kasemodz> good old windows 95 times
[02:15] <cached> I'm nearly 3 times the age i was back then now :P
[02:15] <martinc> i think, i've uncommented the whole sources.list
[02:15] <kasemodz> ok
[02:15] <martinc> ...wait now it's doing something this time
[02:16] <_jason> martinc, you may need multiverse, please put the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list on pastebin
[02:16] <phiber_optic> how can I check my firewall configurations?
[02:16] <martinc> i tried apt-get install and it seems to be working
[02:16] <kasemodz> just make sure martinc that you don't uncomment the cdrom line
[02:16] <armosfighter> how do i make my external dvd drive dma avalible
[02:16] <_jason> phiber_optic, sudo iptables -L
[02:16] <armosfighter> ?
[02:16] <martinc> weird, it's gonna install libtunepimp now even though it wouldn't yesterday
[02:16] <kasemodz> if you do that it will ask you to insert the cd every time u instal
[02:17] <frazmanw> What is the best way to mount a filesystem from a windows computer using samba, but have it show like a drive so I can play music etc from it?
[02:17] <martinc> it's not commecnted
[02:17] <bimberi> ubotu tell armosfighter about dma
[02:17] <phiber_optic> thanx _jason
[02:17] <armosfighter> o i forgot about the bot
[02:17] <martinc> sorry i mean it is commented
[02:18] <kasemodz> good if it doesn't work you can always go to synaptic and go to preferences and select the community based sources
[02:18] <martinc> yeah i know
[02:18] <pansard> oi
[02:18] <underscore_> This isn't a bad distro.
[02:18] <underscore_> :'\
[02:18] <_jason> phiber_optic, you may not need the sudo, if you don't, don't use it
[02:19] <phiber_optic> ok thanx
[02:19] <pansard> hi
[02:19] <phiber_optic> but I dont understand the result that I got
[02:19] <martinc> okay so when I finally go out of my way to ask for help it works, weird
[02:19] <martinc> thanks anyways, goodbye
[02:19] <_jason> ubotu, tell phiber_optic about iptables
[02:19] <underscore_> I'm not going to ask my question, until I read the documentation.
[02:20] <_jason> phiber_optic, you may want to either read some tutorials on iptables and/or install firestarter, a gui frontend
[02:20] <_jason> underscore_, good man
[02:21] <underscore_> I just got my cds today.
[02:21] <underscore_> Deleted windows, (Always a plus) :).
[02:21] <|cached|> yay
[02:21] <underscore_> And got mugged for 15 cds. :/
[02:21] <_jason> underscore_, ha no turning back now
[02:21] <underscore_> Amen.
[02:21] <|cached|> mugged by nerds?
[02:21] <|cached|> i know how you feel
[02:21] <underscore_> I'm handing these cds out like candy.
[02:21] <|cached|> yep
[02:21] <underscore_> The most unlikely of people asked for them.
[02:22] <|cached|> yep
[02:22] <nvez> why would you steal something free.
[02:22] <underscore_> Ghetto black kid, speaking ebonics daily, etc etc, was like "let me get that cd".
[02:22] <underscore_> It's like, crack.
[02:22] <nvez> "I RUN TEH PIRATED UBUNTU WID PATCHED APT-GET"
[02:22] <nvez> =p
[02:22] <underscore_> ono
[02:22] <underscore_> h4x0r
[02:22] <stevenj> is anyone "testing" dapper flight 3?
[02:22] <[0-cached-0] > yay im at the top of the list :)
[02:22] <nvez> http://cgi.ebay.com/A-small-amount-of-dirt-from-the-Bronx_W0QQitemZ5657320642QQcategoryZ1467QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[02:22] <nvez> ...
[02:23] <cheatersrealm> how stable is dapper? aka can I run it on my laptop (g4 ibooK) and not run into many problems
[02:23] <[0-cached-0] > nvez: just by the link i can tell it is something stupid
[02:23] <_jason> cheatersrealm, no
[02:23] <cycom> cheatersrealm: I had a problem with gui
[02:23] <cafuego> stevenj: i've got a daily build from the same day flight3 was released, does that count?
[02:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cheatersrealm: Probably not - it's still in alpha testing.
[02:23] <_jason> cheatersrealm, it will break many times before it is stable
[02:23] <cheatersrealm> argh
[02:23] <cheatersrealm> thanks
[02:23] <cycom> cheatersrealm: gnome acted like it was on crack
[02:23] <cafuego> cheatersrealm: I installed it on a G4 iBook here 2 days ago.
[02:23] <nvez> omg gnome tells its gotta upgrade 2 gotta get crax 4 it
[02:24] <nvez> nyone hav ny??
[02:24] <nvez> =p
[02:24] <underscore_> lolol
[02:24] <cheatersrealm> I need the dapper kernel to get wireless, unless I selectively update to get the dapper kernel and airport extreme drivers
[02:24] <underscore_> I think I love you, nvez.
[02:24] <underscore_> Not sure; yet.
[02:24] <cafuego> cheatersrealm: it's not 100% stable, BUT airport extreme works.
[02:24] <cheatersrealm> yeah
[02:24] <nvez> http://cgi.ebay.com/CASINO-IN-LAS-VEGAS-LIVING-ADVERTISING-FOR-3-MONTHS_W0QQitemZ6030271244QQcategoryZ573QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
[02:24] <nvez> ROFL.
[02:24] <cycom> cheatersrealm: or you could just, like, ya know, install the 2.6.15 kernel by hand...
[02:24] <cheatersrealm> I can't have os's on the laptop breaking
[02:24] <stevenj> cafuego, thats works..just downloaded last night....everything seems to be going just fine until x server will not work.  I have a nvidia 5200 (Nothing exotic!) do you know something I can do to get X working?
[02:24] <cafuego> cheatersrealm: With WPA even, if you apply a few small patches to the kernel.
[02:24] <_jason> !offtopic
[02:24] <ubotu> offtopic is probably Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[02:24] <cycom> cheatersrealm: I dual boot ubuntu and gentoo
[02:24] <[dalamar] > what program or command would i use to browse an smb network?
[02:24] <underscore_> Whoa..
[02:25] <cafuego> stevenj: Installed nvidia-glx?
[02:25] <underscore_> I just noticed how many people were in here.
[02:25] <cycom> _jason: yes thank you. what?
[02:25] <hyphenated> [dalamar] : nautilus can do it, I think
[02:25] <cheatersrealm> yeah, I don't want to install build tools tho
[02:25] <stevenj> cafuego, please dont tell me its that simple
[02:25] <cafuego> cheatersrealm: OSX and Ubuntu live happily side by side :-)
[02:25] <cheatersrealm> yeah I know :)
[02:25] <cafuego> stevenj: it's not that simple
[02:25] <cafuego> stevenj: Well, it is, but I'm not telling you ;-)
[02:26] <_jason> cycom, excuse me?
[02:26] <cycom> _jason: ...!offtopic?
[02:26] <_jason> cycom, did you not notice the ebay link?
[02:26] <stevenj> cafuego, ok..err..also when I do a clean install and sudo apt-get update update...something is not working 1. The US servers are crap or 2. something else any suggestions?
[02:27] <[0-cached-0] > Macintosh and Windows suck equally in my opinion
[02:27] <cycom> _jason: no, because I didn't care...
[02:27] <cafuego> stevenj: Use other servers (yes, the US are crap)
[02:27] <cello_rasp> how do i get smbmount?
[02:27] <_jason> cycom, yes... that's what the !offtopic was for...
[02:27] <cafuego> cello_rasp: install 'smbfs'.
[02:27] <frazmanw> What is the best way to mount a filesystem from a windows computer using samba, but have it show like a drive so I can play music etc from it?
[02:27] <cycom> _jason: I have just noticed that the ebay link was a whole line, and your !offtopic and ubutos response took up just as much space, and two lines.
[02:27] <stevenj> cafuego, guess that settles it then...going to reinstall. (Vi makes me nervous) but I guess I'll manage :)
[02:27] <nvez> stop using cracked linux then.
[02:27] <nvez> =p
[02:28] <cafuego> frazmanw: Add it to /etc/fstab
[02:28] <_jason> cycom, why are you even debating this? he pasted it twice fyi
[02:28] <cafuego> stevenj: If you dislike vi, use nano ;-)
[02:28] <cycom> stevenj: why do you need vi?
[02:28] <nineO9> smilin joe fission
[02:28] <frazmanw> cafuego, I did I used the line I used in Gentoo but it does not work.
[02:28] <cycom> _jason: actually, scrolling back, he pasted two different links.
[02:28] <cello_rasp> osx is like a pretty secretary in a fashionable office who cant do her job for shit and has sex with random strangers
[02:28] <_jason> cycom, both offtopic... I'm done discussing this
[02:28] <stevenj> ...because I have this old school unix manual as my only resource at the time
[02:29] <geneo93> crimsun:  i have 2.6.15-5mdksmp sigatel stac9758,59 in mandriva cooker and it works just fine
[02:29] <cafuego> stevenj: use 'nano' wherever the manual refers to vi.
[02:29] <underscore_> Oi.
[02:29] <stevenj> thanks
[02:29] <forker> #join ##c
[02:29] <cafuego> stevenj: much easier to use
[02:29] <xzero> does anybody have any idea why in totem (using xine) whenever I change the output to stereo, it always reverts back to whatever was selected previous to it? I can't get stereo to stick.
[02:30] <stevenj> I have been using ubuntu since hoary..but this is first time I've tried to test the next best thing...I think I will be ok when I get x working anyway thanks
[02:30] <nineO9> csharp rox0rz
[02:30] <frazmanw> cafuego, //hpserver/E   /mnt/smb/E   smbfs auto,username="MY USER",password="MY PASSWORD",uid=1000,umask=000,user   0 0
[02:30] <cafuego> frazmanw: And /mnt/smb/E exists?
[02:30] <frazmanw> cafuego, yes
[02:30] <frazmanw> it says wrong fs type
[02:30] <cafuego> frazmanw: and 'smbclient -L hpserver' works?
[02:31] <quidam-> hi, anybody knows if the ubuntu kernel have the unionfs module compiled?
[02:31] <Shadyman> Hey guys? Dumb question. Where do you set the default media player in Gnome?
[02:31] <eggman_> Can anyone help me install the nvidia drivers for my Geforce2 MX200? I used the wiki but that just borked my xserver
[02:31] <stevenj> And for whats it worth (and I dont care what linux says) Gnome "feels" better that KDE (kubuntu). Ok so maybe that comment is not worth anything...
[02:31] <Shadyman> !es
[02:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:31] <existance> how do i make ls display multiple columns?
[02:31] <tim> when i try to install gparted i get this error root@ubuntu:/home/tim # sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:31] <tim> Reading package lists... Done
[02:31] <tim> Building dependency tree... Done
[02:31] <tim> E: Couldn't find package gparted
[02:31] <tim> root@ubuntu:/home/tim #
[02:31] <stevenj> linux-linus
[02:31] <frazmanw> cafuego, yes it does work
[02:31] <Shadyman> !paste
[02:31] <ubotu> it has been said that paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[02:31] <stevenj> =
[02:32] <_jason> Shadowline, right click on the file got to properties -> open with
[02:32] <csb> is there a built in graphical FTP client in ubuntu?
[02:32] <_jason> tim, don't use sudo as root
[02:32] <eggman_> csb yea under places click connect to server
[02:32] <bimberi> csb: nautilus (the file manager) via Places -> Connect to Server...
[02:32] <_jason> tim, pastebin contents of /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:32] <geneo93> eggman_:  all you needed to do is apt-get install nvidia-glx and the nvidia-glx-config enable
[02:32] <existance> how do i make ls display multiple columns?
[02:33] <eggman_> geneo93 but my card is a legacy card
[02:33] <frazmanw> cafuego, any Sugestions?
[02:33] <geneo93> well its should detect that on its own
[02:33] <eggman_> hmm ok ill try that
[02:33] <quidam-> hi, anybody knows if the ubuntu kernel have the unionfs module compiled?
[02:33] <rikai> Hm, about ubuntu cd shipping to the us... I was thinking of ordering a 50 CD deal in the us, could anyone give me a more in-depth process of the steps? mainly the parts involving the shipping time and what happens whne the cd's get here, and also who they're shipped via.
[02:33] <tim> apt.conf.d  secring.gpg  sources.list  trustdb.gpg  trusted.gpg  trusted.gpg~
[02:34] <tim> what did i just do i mean  what is etc/apt
[02:34] <existance> how do i make ls display multiple columns?
[02:34] <_jason> existance, should do that by default
[02:34] <underscore_> geh.
[02:34] <existance> _jason, and if it doesnt?
[02:35] <underscore_> I hate to ask this. It's probably going to be annoying.
[02:35] <_jason> existance, check your aliases
[02:35] <bshumate> !tell rikai about shipit
[02:35] <eggman_> geneo93 can i do the nvidia-glx-cnofig enavle in xterm then ctlr-alt-backspace ?
[02:35] <_jason> existance, my fault, it does rows... columns is -C
[02:35] <geneo93> yes
[02:36] <Okita> Does dapper have a complete multiverse repository yet? I can't find things like w32codecs and unrar
[02:36] <existance> _jason, cool thanks :)
[02:36] <rikai> bshumate, i already know about shipit, but it doesnt give very much information.
[02:36] <geneo93> you may need sudo though
[02:36] <underscore_> My current resolution, is like 640x480. I was reading through the help file, and couldn't find anything about changing it. There are no other resolutions available.
[02:36] <underscore_> How would I go about being able to change it?
[02:36] <Shadyman> _jason: Thanks
[02:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell underscore about resolution
[02:36] <tritium> !resolution
[02:36] <underscore_> I'm not blind enough to use it, this big all the time. :\
[02:36] <_jason> !fixres
[02:36] <ubotu> from memory, resolution is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[02:36] <Shadyman> cafuego: Fuego!!
[02:37] <rikai> !resolution
[02:37] <bimberi> ubotu tell underscore_  about resolution
[02:37] <rikai> feh.
[02:37] <bshumate> rikai: not even this information helped you: If you have questions about shipments and dates please refer to the Ubuntu FAQ.
[02:37] <underscore_> Thanks.
[02:37] <underscore_> 'Preciate it.
[02:37] <Doomhammer> how would I go about causing a program to execute every time I log in to KDE ?
[02:37] <_jason> existance, actually the -C for me seems to do the same thing... maybe I've got an alias somewhere...
[02:38] <bshumate> rikai: that link (http://www.ubuntu.com/support/faq#head-7eef2db63e0a75424cdd663ee6f7b8eedcf19607) seems to have much more information on it.
[02:38] <jclinton> Does anyone know what the default username and password for CUPS administration is?
[02:38] <bshumate> rikai: don't read English?
[02:38] <jclinton> I'm trying to access the web interface for CUPS...
[02:38] <rikai> bshumate, o.O; i didn't see that anywhere... so please dont get on my back. :(
[02:38] <Hentai^XP> Does anyone here use the ACL support on linux?
[02:39] <rikai> bshumate, i apologize for my eyes failing me it seems.
[02:39] <geneo93> sudo and your passwd
[02:39] <bimberi> ubotu tell jclinton about cupsweb
[02:39] <bshumate> rikai: nobody's "on your back" dude
[02:39] <existance> _jason, wierd, worked for me though
[02:39] <eggman_> geneo93: i am su'd and nvidia-glx-config enable givves me http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7290
[02:39] <Doomhammer> how can I have a program execute every time I log in to KDE ?
[02:39] <_jason> existance, yeah, it should work.  It's just that mine without the -C does the same thing :)
[02:40] <Okita> Doomhammer: You could add it to your .profile or .xinitrc, or whatever it is, right?
[02:40] <rikai> bshumate, lol, sorry i again, i'm tired, and i tool the "dont read english?" comment as a sarcastic remark, which it oviosuly wasnt. :(
[02:40] <Doomhammer> Okita: okay, i'll try it
[02:40] <bshumate> rikai: nawp...people of all nations here...so sometimes that is the case. ;-)
[02:40] <Okita> Doomhammer: I'm not sure it'll have the behavior you're looking for though, so read the manpages
[02:40] <zblach> hi
[02:41] <existance> _jason, mine used to, not sure what changed though :/
[02:41] <zblach> quick question. how can I connect to my windows workgroup?
[02:41] <rikai> bshumate, yeah, i realized that after i hit enter, and immediately felt like a moron.
[02:41] <Doomhammer> Okita: what i want is something that would perform the same function as the little "Start up" directory in windows
[02:41] <underscore_> Should I use kernel framebuffer device interface?
[02:41] <CanadianSnow> !autodetect
[02:41] <ubotu> CanadianSnow: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[02:41] <bshumate> rikai: no worries man, get some CDs, share and enjoy!
[02:42] <geneo93> can you enable it manually
[02:42] <rikai> bshumate, exactly what i planned on doing. ;)
[02:42] <jclinton> bimberi: that didn't work
[02:42] <CanadianSnow> someone should tell that stupid !BOT where "Autodetect"/"Autodetection" is...
[02:42] <jclinton> bimberi: it wont accept the cupsys password
[02:42] <CanadianSnow> !autodetection
[02:42] <ubotu> Not a clue, CanadianSnow
[02:42] <dooglus> how can I turn spell-checking on in gaim?
[02:42] <Shadyman> !auto-detect
[02:42] <ubotu> Shadyman: Do they come in packets of five?
[02:42] <null> how do i change the fb resolution?
[02:42] <Relampago> hello my friends :)
[02:42] <Relampago> checking lex output file root... ./configure: line 2425: lex: command not found
[02:42] <Relampago> configure: error: cannot find output from lex; giving up
[02:42] <Relampago> root@elitebox:~/php-4.3.8# apt-get install yywrap
[02:42] <null> i mean when the kernel boots up
[02:43] <Relampago> how fix this problem?
[02:43] <CanadianSnow> see Shadyman?
[02:43] <null> with vga=xxx ?
[02:43] <dooglus> Relampago: it's called 'flex'?
[02:43] <Relampago> yes
[02:43] <Shadyman> CanadianSnow: Mmhmm
[02:43] <dooglus> Relampago: install flex
[02:43] <bimberi> jclinton: try your own un/pw
[02:43] <dooglus> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2005-12-27 03:53 /usr/bin/lex -> flex
[02:43] <jclinton> bimberi: doesn't work either
[02:43] <Relampago> :o
[02:43] <CanadianSnow> does anyone know where it talks about autodetection for ubuntu?? maybe Shadyman does?
[02:43] <Relampago> let's see
[02:44] <eggman_> geneo93 can you enable it manually: was that to me?
[02:44] <bimberi> jclinton: hm, ok
[02:44] <zblach> my workgroup exists, but i'm somehow unable to connect to it successfully
[02:44] <CanadianSnow> or maybe Relampago
[02:44] <Okita> Doomhammer: Right, if it's GUI-dependent then use .xsession or whatever it is, maybe?  That way it won't get run when you log in remotely
[02:44] <Doomhammer> Okita: sweet, thanks :)
[02:44] <Okita> Doomhammer: Otherwise you can use .profile and it'll get run every time.  This is from memory, so YMMV =)
[02:44] <bimberi> jclinton: actually, what do you mean by "doesn't work"?  what error?
[02:44] <ubuntu> hi
[02:44] <jclinton> bimberi, i can't log in
[02:45] <jclinton> bimberi: in a web browser
[02:45] <jclinton> bimberi: i doesn't accept the un/pw
[02:45] <Shadyman> Doomhammer: In KDE I think you can put a launcher in ~/.kde/autostart/
[02:45] <CanadianSnow> !bots?
[02:45] <Okita> So does anyone know how I can get w32codecs and unrar in Dapper?
[02:45] <ubotu> No idea, CanadianSnow
[02:45] <ubuntu> help
[02:45] <bimberi> jclinton: hm ok, it works for me
[02:45] <CanadianSnow> wit what ubuntu
[02:45] <bimberi> jclinton: you did restart cupsys?
[02:45] <jclinton> bimberi: what did you do? yes i did
[02:45] <Relampago> cool :)
[02:46] <tritium> Okita: read the Ubuntu 5.10 Starter Guide for details on that
[02:46] <Relampago> $ dooglus $ thanks.
[02:46] <ubuntu> my linux
[02:46] <bimberi> jclinton: ok.  i did those two commands, then went to http://localhost:631 and logged in with my own un/pw
[02:46] <ubuntu> afff
[02:47] <glacious> hello
[02:47] <underscore_> brb
[02:47] <glacious> does anyone know how to change your refresh rate if only one is offered in the resolution control panel?
[02:47] <dooglus> Relampago: is that pretend money?  or shell prompts?
[02:47] <CanadianSnow> ubuntu whats wrong with it?
[02:47] <glacious> i'm tyring to stop this bouncing box on my monitor saying "mode not supported".  the desktop displays fine behind it, just that the box keeps bouncing.
[02:48] <ubuntu> i'm
[02:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the HorizSync and VertRefresh values.
[02:48] <ubuntu> vai tomar no cu bando de filho da puta
[02:48] <eggman_> geneo93: ok Im restarting x now, hope it works :)
[02:48] <eggman_> exit
[02:48] <CanadianSnow> ur what ubuntu?
[02:48] <underscore_> oi
[02:48] <ubuntu> do you undr
[02:48] <underscore_> not good.
[02:48] <underscore_> :\
[02:48] <Relampago> how i install gmake ?
[02:48] <jclinton> bimberi: i don't see how that's possible; at what point did it ask you for the password? it hasn't asked me for a password for cupsys yet.............
[02:48] <CanadianSnow> understand?
[02:48] <ubuntu> do you understand?
[02:48] <CanadianSnow> no
[02:48] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: i did, but no change.
[02:48] <zblach> !network
[02:48] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[02:48] <underscore_> I did the ctrl alt backspace..
[02:49] <Shadyman> ubuntu: What language?
[02:49] <underscore_> And tried to 'startx'
[02:49] <zblach> !workgroup
[02:49] <ubotu> zblach: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:49] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: why does it only show 85hz as an option in GNome?
[02:49] <Okita> tritium: The repositories I added are like those, but "dapper" instead of breezy... I wasn't sure if putting breezy there would screw things up or not
[02:49] <geneo93> eggman_:  i used nvidia drivers 8178 in mine
[02:49] <ubuntu> i'm brazilian guy
[02:49] <null> Relampago, gmake is just a symlink to make
[02:49] <underscore_> and it flashed 'are your pc display settings correct?'
[02:49] <grimgravy014> does limework in ubuntu?
[02:49] <_jason> !pt
[02:49] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[02:49] <ubuntu> where you from?
[02:49] <grimgravy014> limewire*
[02:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: Possibly because you set those variable as a specific value, not a range?
[02:49] <Relampago> $ null $ :o
[02:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> *variables
[02:49] <underscore_> oi.
[02:49] <jclinton> does anyone know how to make cups allow login in the web interface?
[02:49] <null> Relampago, you know what the 'g' stands for?
[02:49] <zblach> um... it doesn't seem to be as simple as going to the network window
[02:49] <null> GNUmake
[02:49] <underscore_> Any idea how to fix this?
[02:49] <ubuntu> i don't no
[02:49] <bimberi> jclinton: sorry, it's when i click on "Do Administration Tasks"
[02:50] <Relampago> $ null $ ?
[02:50] <null> and on almost all linux systems the only make _is_ gnumake
[02:50] <_jason> ubuntu, ubotu e um computador, vai a #ubuntu-br.  para ir la, escreve: /j #ubuntu-br
[02:50] <ubuntu> do you speak portuguse?
[02:50] <underscore_> 0.o
[02:50] <jclinton> bimberi: no, that's to PROVIDE the password for login... i'm asking: when did it ASK you for the password to set for cupsys ?????
[02:50] <Doomhammer> how can I use sudo in a script, without the script prompting for a password ?
[02:50] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: change them under 'monitor' or 'screen'?
[02:50] <bimberi> jclinton: at no point
[02:50] <null> Relampago, apt-get install make
[02:50] <CanadianSnow> so, autodetection..
[02:50] <jclinton> bimberi: so what password are you using then?
[02:50] <underscore_> baahhhh
[02:50] <null> if you don;t have make
[02:50] <zblach> so, workgroups..
[02:50] <Relampago> i have make :p
[02:50] <Milk> can anyone help me setup a VPN connection with a windows box?
[02:50] <CanadianSnow> I'll be back
[02:50] <underscore_> Oh crap.
[02:51] <CanadianSnow> whats VPN?
[02:51] <null> Relampago, but you don;t have gmake?
[02:51] <CanadianSnow> Milk
[02:51] <jclinton> bimberi: does it come with a default password?
[02:51] <zblach> Virt. Priv. Net.
[02:51] <null> you gotta be kidding!
[02:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: "Monitor"
[02:51] <underscore_> Command-line sucks.
[02:51] <Relampago> $ null $ aja
[02:51] <Milk> CanadianSnow, Virtual Private Network
[02:51] <Horus23> now
[02:51] <bimberi> jclinton: i'm logged in as my own account, using a web browser, and providing my own un/pw when asked
[02:51] <CanadianSnow> Milk Basically just a network???
[02:51] <null> Relampago, what is 'aja'? and why the many $ signs?
[02:51] <jclinton> bimberi: oh so you're not logging in as 'cupsys' ?
[02:51] <underscore_> When in doubt whip xp out!
[02:51] <eggman> geneo93 it dindt work
[02:51] <purpleheart_USMC> What does it mean when you have a packet loss?  I pinged google.com and have a 25% packet loss
[02:51] <underscore_> :'\
[02:52] <Milk> CanadianSnow, kinda
[02:52] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: thank you, i'll try changing some stuff =)
[02:52] <Relampago> LOL
[02:52] <bimberi> jclinton: nope
[02:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: np :)
[02:52] <Relampago> $ null $ is my nick completion
[02:52] <underscore_> I thought that was amusing.
[02:52] <jclinton> well it still isn't working even with my own un/pw
[02:52] <underscore_> Haha.
[02:52] <Relampago> xD
[02:52] <null> oh god. its lame..
[02:52] <null> change it :)
[02:52] <CanadianSnow> Milk what version of windows?
[02:52] <Relampago> ahaha
[02:52] <underscore_> Sorry.
[02:52] <Milk> CanadianSnow, XP
[02:52] <Horus23> bye
[02:52] <CanadianSnow> With what? linux ? (Milk)
[02:52] <regeya> yay nick completion
[02:52] <underscore_> aie, segfault.
[02:52] <Milk> CanadianSnow, yes
[02:53] <underscore_> brb, let's try this again.
[02:53] <regeya> I think I'll change my name to that.
[02:53] <geneo93> eggman:  you might want to try getting kernel source matching your kernel and using nvidias installer
[02:53] <bimberi> jclinton: then i don't know sorry
[02:53] <regeya> "So, I'm Bob.  Who're you?"  "Nick.  Nick Completion."
[02:53] <null> lol regeya
[02:53] <CanadianSnow> Milk ubuntu? :p In XP u need a shared folder, and then on ubuntu you go to places, Connect to server
[02:53] <eggman> geneo93 ok i will try nvidias installers and what do i nned to do for he kernal?
[02:54] <Milk> CanadianSnow, yes.. ubuntu, but its not that simple
[02:54] <jclinton> does anyone know how to enable CUPS web logins?
[02:54] <CanadianSnow> no?
[02:54] <CanadianSnow> y not milk?
[02:54] <Relampago> why other users can view the content of the dirs of users ???
[02:54] <geneo93> uname -r should tell you what kernel you have
[02:54] <Milk> CanadianSnow, are you familiar with VPN?
[02:54] <CanadianSnow> Milk: nope
[02:55] <underscore_> Still no dice.
[02:55] <underscore_> How do I fix the xorg.conf?
[02:55] <Milk> CanadianSnow, its not just a network.. its an established, encrypted, virtual tunnel between to computers
[02:55] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: no luck =(
[02:55] <CanadianSnow> Milk, oh, alright, sorry then..
[02:56] <Milk> CanadianSnow, its okj
[02:56] <adriyel> how can I add a dialog to my right-click in Nautilus to open a terminal in my present location?
[02:56] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: added HorizSync 30-83 and VertRefresh 55-75 under the Monitor section, under Option "DPMS"
[02:56] <s1gnal> Hi, I have an ubuntu box(breezy) that I just installed a wireless PCI card and another ethernet card(existing eth0 is on mobo), how do I enable these cards? They were not detected at boot time
[02:56] <underscore_> brb.
[02:56] <paul__> my sound lags slightly on gaim
[02:56] <bimberi> adriyel: install nautilus-open-terminal
[02:56] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: then did /etc/init.d/gdm restart,  still just shows 85hz as the only refresh rate =(
[02:56] <adriyel> bimberi, thank you
[02:57] <jclinton> bimberi: figured it out, cupsys needs to be a member of both lpadmin and shadow
[02:57] <bimberi> adriyel: yw :)
[02:57] <adriyel> bimberi, what do I do to activate?
[02:57] <bimberi> jclinton: ah
[02:57] <paul__> when i message someone on gaim the sound plays half a second later
[02:58] <bimberi> adriyel: logout and back in
[02:58] <adriyel> kkz
[02:58] <poningru> guys what does the wnck do?
[02:58] <poningru> in synaptic it says: A library to use for writing pagers and task lists
[02:58] <s1gnal> Hi, I have an ubuntu box(breezy) that I just installed a wireless PCI card and another ethernet card(existing eth0 is on mobo), how do I enable these cards? They were not detected at boot time
[02:59] <poningru> can I shut it down and be ok?
[02:59] <bimberi> jclinton: yes, mine was already a member
[03:00] <purpleheart_USMC> Can someone help me find a command to see what programs are running (including ones in the background), and how much memory they are using, along with other info?
[03:00] <zuverink> anyone ever have a problem with thunderbird not opening a link from an email, the version I am running is from one of the repositories, but even with a dl'd version from the mozilla site it wont respond by opening any browser when a link is clicked?
[03:00] <s1gnal> purpleheart: try
[03:00] <s1gnal> top
[03:00] <zuverink> purpleheart_USMC:  try top in a shell
[03:01] <poningru> purpleheart_USMC, ps -aux
[03:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: Odd - could you copy your xorg.conf to the the pastebin?
[03:01] <adriyel> it works now bimberi, thanks
[03:01] <bimberi> adriyel: great! :)
[03:04] <Relampago> why other users can view the content of the dirs of users ???
[03:05] <cheatersrealm> Relampago: permissions on the directory
[03:05] <hyphenated> Relampago: because your permissions let them
[03:05] <Relampago> and, how fix this?
[03:05] <hyphenated> Relampago: learn about permissions, then set them correctly
[03:06] <Relampago> :(
[03:06] <hyphenated> what, did the word 'learn' scare you? ;-)
[03:06] <timfrost> ubotu tell Relampago about permissions
[03:06] <Relampago> $ hyphenated $ :p
[03:08] <eggman_> !nvidia
[03:08] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[03:09] <luisito> hi guys
[03:10] <luisito> what software do I need to open a "C" file and a "H" file?
[03:11] <Doomhammer> luisito: that is C source code, you need the GNU C compiler (or any c compiler for that matter)
[03:11] <Doomhammer> luisito: they can be editied with any text editor, but you'll need a compiler to user them
[03:11] <ryanpg> hi all... I'm running dapper, is there any value in upgrading/updating from the flight 3 cd?
[03:11] <Knelix> Hello guys!
[03:11] <ToRTuReD_X> hmm
[03:11] <antoine> test
[03:12] <ToRTuReD_X> i have to log in to root to move files to a mounted partition right?
[03:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ryanpg: Might as well, it's all unstable anyway. :)
[03:12] <haasteem> hi, i'm having trouble with my internet connection... the network is not down... adsl-start works and connects to the internet but when i start up firefox it can't connect (same with thunderbird, xchat and gaim)... what could be the problem?
[03:12] <eggman_> haasteem try an "ifdown eth0" then an "ifup eth0"
[03:13] <luisito> Doomhammer, thans
[03:13] <luisito> k
[03:13] <frazmanw> I have some rar files I need to unrar, how can I do this in linux?
[03:13] <luisito> Doomhammer, which C compiler is good?
[03:13] <antoine> www.rarlabs.com
[03:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> haasteem: If that doesn't work, it could be a DNS problem - check System - administration - network - DNS tab for working servers.
[03:13] <Syco54645> frazmanw: get rar for linux
[03:13] <haasteem> eggman_: ok, i will try... i was thinking it might have something to do with eth0... when i did ifconfig it didn"t show any ip addresses in the data about eth0
[03:13] <null> !info unrar
[03:14] <Doomhammer> luisito: the GNU C Compiler (GCC) is what pretty much everyone uses in Linux
[03:14] <rikai> err, is there a login for the ubuntu livecd?
[03:14] <luisito> Doomhammer, ok :)
[03:14] <null> !info unrar!rar
[03:14] <null> bah
[03:14] <Doomhammer> luisito: no problem :)
[03:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> rikai: It should be automatic...
[03:14] <Syco54645> rikai: no there isnt, but if you need to ssh into it you can make an account for that
[03:14] <Shadyman> rikai: No :)
[03:14] <null> frazmanw, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[03:14] <frazmanw> null, tks
[03:15] <haasteem> eggman_: do you know what might have caused this? i didn't do anything strange as i can recall
[03:15] <rikai> Err, why is a friend of mine getting a login screen then?
[03:16] <cello_rasp> i just installed smbfs and i need to run smbmount as a user... it's confusing. http://pastebin.com/510891
[03:16] <rikai> oh, i see...
[03:16] <null> rikai, because your friend hit logout?
[03:16] <rikai> or, more specifically, it said "logging into user ubuntu in x seconds" and then just go kicked back to the login screen.
[03:16] <null> if you logout i think it goes to gdm (login screen) but after a timeout goes back in
[03:16] <eggman_> Haasteen: im not sure, it happens often on my debian box when it puts on the screensaver
[03:16] <cello_rasp> no matter the permissions i can't run smbmount .... help me, bash people!
[03:17] <ToRTuReD_X> ok this is odd
[03:17] <ToRTuReD_X> anyone know the chmod commands?
[03:17] <ToRTuReD_X> <_<
[03:17] <null> ToRTuReD_X, what about chmod ?
[03:17] <Doomhammer> how do you compare two strings in a BASH shell script ?
[03:17] <haasteem> eggman_:really? that would be odd... it was the first time i saw this happen on my ubuntu...
[03:18] <s1gnal> how do I enable new network cards? I have 3 total installed and I can see one of them I believe in the output of lspci, but I'm a little lost on how to enable it?
[03:18] <Doomhammer> slgnal: are you in GNOME ?
[03:18] <s1gnal> doomhammer: yes
[03:18] <ToRTuReD_X> null - i need to set 777 for my /dev/hdb1 mount
[03:18] <haasteem> eggman_: what if those 2 commands wouldn't help?
[03:19] <MacSlow> can anyone please check if renaming of an icon on the desktop works for them under 5.10 (running Gnome 2.12.1) thanks
[03:19] <ToRTuReD_X> problem is i try sudo chmod 777 hdb1
[03:19] <Doomhammer> slgnal: i belive it's in System > Networking ... there's a networking control panel somewhere where you can enable them
[03:19] <ToRTuReD_X> and it shows like it works
[03:19] <ToRTuReD_X> but doesn;t
[03:19] <null> ToRTuReD_X, you do realise that /dev/hdb1 is a device node?
[03:19] <s1gnal> lol, I didnt know it was as easy as that
[03:19] <null> its not your mountpoint!
[03:19] <Toma-> MacSlow: works fine
[03:19] <timfrost> Doomhammer, 'test "$S1" = "$S2" ' where the strings are stored in variables S1 and S2
[03:19] <ToRTuReD_X> null, yes'm
[03:19] <Doomhammer> timfrost: thanks :)
[03:19] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[03:20] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[03:20] <MacSlow> Toma-, did you use F2 or the "slow" double-click?
[03:20] <dt-> Anyone free to help? >_>
[03:20] <Toma-> MacSlow: f2
[03:20] <ToRTuReD_X> so how do i change permissions so i can move a few files over to it?
[03:20] <haasteem> eggman_: btw, in windoze i have no problem connecting
[03:20] <null> ToRTuReD_X, it might help others to help you if you just say what you want to do rather than how you are trying to do the same!
[03:20] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[03:21] <ToRTuReD_X> i'm trying to set FULL permissions for /dev/hdb1 so i can move some windows driver over to my storage drive ie /dev/hdb1
[03:21] <eggman_> haasteen: you just passed my knowlage of networking problems lol
[03:21] <ToRTuReD_X> but don't know how
[03:21] <haasteem> eggman_: :-)
[03:22] <MacSlow> Toma-, even if I select rename from the popup-menu my keystrokes done land in the area of the label, but in e.g. an open window of xchat or whatever app-window I happen to have non-minimized.
[03:22] <haasteem> eggman_: you know more than me... gonna try anyways
[03:22] <null> ToRTuReD_X, you want to copy some stuff over to the windows partition?
[03:22] <null> as regular user?
[03:22] <ToRTuReD_X> yes
[03:22] <ToRTuReD_X> i don't even know the root user account
[03:22] <ToRTuReD_X> >_<
[03:22] <null> and regular user doesn;t have write perms
[03:22] <Toma-> MacSlow: you havent done anything weird to the "mouse grab attention" stuff have you?
[03:22] <null> the umask used when mounting the partition probably is restricting access
[03:22] <cello_rasp> how do i user permission for running smbmount? http://pastebin.com/510891
[03:23] <ToRTuReD_X> well what's the normal ubuntu v5.04 root
[03:23] <MacSlow> Toma-, not at all... this is a pretty fresh install
[03:23] <Toma-> MacSlow: weird :/
[03:23] <Relampago> hey
[03:23] <ToRTuReD_X> i spose i could burn them to cd
[03:23] <null> ToRTuReD_X, err.. just try sudo /bin/bash
[03:23] <ToRTuReD_X> if i could figure out how to get gnome baker installed
[03:23] <null> that might give you root
[03:23] <Relampago> i need install the command sendmail and mail
[03:23] <ToRTuReD_X> >_>
[03:24] <ToRTuReD_X> oh
[03:24] <ToRTuReD_X> go null
[03:24] <rob5> www.ubuntu.com
[03:24] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:  the mount command that is used should include the option   -o  umask=0000,dmask=0000,fmask=0000    that will mount as 777
[03:24] <ToRTuReD_X> you roxor my joxor
[03:24] <ToRTuReD_X> ^_^
[03:24] <VanillaCoke> is it possible to unistall ubuntu
[03:24] <ToRTuReD_X> jbzz - i used the fdick mount script >_>
[03:25] <Relampago> i need install the command sendmail and mail
[03:25] <Shadyman> ToRTuReD_X: No comment.
[03:25] <null> lol
[03:25] <jason> Hello, where is the firefox plugin folder on a fresh install of Ubuntu
[03:25] <null> Relampago, you want postfix
[03:25] <null> Relampago, apt-get install postfix
[03:25] <Relampago> $ null $ what is postfix
[03:25] <Relampago> ?
[03:25] <null> !postfix
[03:25] <ubotu> null: Are you smoking crack?
[03:25] <null> not really :p
[03:26] <geneo93> this gaim 2.0 is strange
[03:26] <null> !info postfix
[03:26] <ubotu> postfix: (A high-performance mail transport agent), section mail, is optional. Version: 2.2.4-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 889 kB, Installed size: 2140 kB
[03:26] <Relampago> ohhh
[03:26] <Relampago> cool :>
[03:26] <eggman_> !info gaim
[03:26] <ubotu> gaim: (multi-protocol instant messaging client), section net, is optional. Version: 1:1.5.0-1ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 814 kB, Installed size: 2148 kB
[03:26] <Relampago> [22:26]  <ubotu> null: Are you smoking crack?
[03:26] <Relampago> ajjajaja
[03:26] <VanillaCoke> !info VanillaCoke
[03:26] <null> ooii..
[03:26] <geneo93> all the text just slides up slowly
[03:26] <glacious> bleh
[03:26] <null> i did answer, not really :p
[03:26] <glacious> why can't i change my refresh rate in Dapper?
[03:26] <glacious> it always says 85Hz.  do i need to be logged in as root in Gnome?
[03:27] <jason> where is the plugin directory for firefox?
[03:27] <hnr> jason, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[03:27] <meng> glacious: modify xorg.conf
[03:27] <jason> hnr, thank you
[03:28] <tritium> meng: its' preferable to "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" rather than modify /etc/xorg.conf by hand
[03:28] <glacious> meng: i did.
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> ok
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> so i got the whole root thing
[03:28] <rob5> how is ubuntu compared to freebsd
[03:28] <Okita> tritium: The repositories I added are like those, but "dapper" instead of breezy... I wasn't sure if putting breezy there would screw things up or not
[03:28] <ToRTuReD_X> how do i copy a file over as root?
[03:28] <glacious> meng: i've tried it 3 times now.  used mode lines, added the vert/horiz lines, restarted gdm
[03:28] <meng> there's no mplayer in the dapper repos
[03:28] <hnr> jason, it's the global directory. if you don't have permission use the local at .firefox/plugins/ (if you dont have one, feel free to create :)
[03:29] <meng> my graphic system wasn't detected to well, so i had to hand edit it the xorg.conf
[03:29] <glacious> its a 19" LCD, the desktop displays, but there is a CONSTANT box displayed by my monitor that says 'this mode can not be displayed'
[03:30] <glacious> so it reverts back to 60hz.  but that box won't go away.
[03:30] <hnr> jason, .firefox/plugins/ on your home direcotry, of course
[03:30] <glacious> unless the video card stops sending it 85hz.
[03:30] <jason> hnr, thank you i think i got it was having trouble finding it for java plugin install
[03:31] <meng> glacious: obviously you tried the screen resolution option in gnome rite?
[03:31] <gavinb> how do you check the current ubuntu version?
[03:31] <glacious> meng: yes sir
[03:31] <Relampago> $ null $ done, but :
[03:31] <Relampago> root@elitebox:~# mail
[03:31] <Relampago> -bash: mail: command not found
[03:31] <gavinb> in command
[03:31] <gavinb> not through about
[03:31] <null> how do you manage startup services in ubuntu?
[03:31] <null> !info mail
[03:31] <meng> uname -r ?
[03:31] <theneonshadow> how do i access a windows computer without them knowing
[03:32] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Call the police and tell them you're a hacker.
[03:32] <Relampago> damn
[03:32] <Relampago> L/
[03:32] <poningru> rofl
[03:32] <geneo93> uname -a
[03:32] <Relampago> :/
[03:32] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Bwhaha
[03:32] <Shadyman> Sorry, Cracker
[03:32] <theneonshadow> shadyman: haha
[03:32] <timfrost> gavinb, lsb_release
[03:32] <jason> hnr, so i should create a folder called .firefox/plugins under my /home folder?
[03:32] <poningru> thanks dude
[03:32] <meng> glacious: i would hand edit it as a last resort
[03:32] <theneonshadow> shadyman: this dude from in these chats did it to me and i wanna know how to do it back
[03:32] <glacious> meng: i have hand edited it to add modeline + horiz + vert lines.
[03:32] <meng> glacious: while i wonder where is mplayer
[03:33] <Shadyman> theneonshadow: Do you have remote desktop enabled?
[03:33] <hnr> jason, yes. when i have installed xine plugin it have created this. i think it work if you make if by your hand :)
[03:33] <regeya> gah.  'erb: command not found'
[03:33] <regeya> whoops...
[03:33] <poningru> its N/A
[03:33] <poningru> wtf
[03:33] <glacious> no clue, haven't found it yet :)
[03:33] <theneonshadow> shadyman: not that i know of
[03:33] <geneo93> theneonshadow:  try rm -r /
[03:33] <glacious> i usually run Gentoo, but wanted to give Ubuntu a whirl
[03:33] <poningru> timfrost, dude it says n/a no lsb release found
[03:34] <Relampago> damn, damn
[03:34] <poningru> theneonshadow, dont do that
[03:34] <Shadyman> geneo93: He said windows system :P
[03:34] <null> !info mplayer
[03:34] <poningru> geneo93, please dont tell people that
[03:34] <meng> my xorg does not have refresh settings on it
[03:34] <timfrost> meng, mplayer is in multiverse (non-free software).
[03:34] <geneo93> oh
[03:34] <glacious> i'm running Dapper, because my SATA Promise card is not supported during 5.10 installation
[03:34] <poningru> what package is required to see the help?
[03:34] <glacious> i just wish i could change my vertical refresh rate
[03:34] <geneo93> thats simple format c:
[03:34] <meng> timfrost: the servers seems down, i am constantly refreshing my repo info, and yet mplayer is no where
[03:34] <poningru> cause I cant open up help or about
[03:35] <theneonshadow> k
[03:35] <null> meng, what is the version of mplayer deb?
[03:35] <purpleheartUSMC> What is a program or command to check system performance?
[03:35] <timfrost> poningru, lsb_release -d prints the description, lsb_release -a prints all the data
[03:35] <null> if it is anything but cvs, its going to be craptastically old!
[03:35] <purpleheartUSMC> What is a "packet loss"?
[03:35] <jason> hnr, i placed the java file like i was suppost to in the plugins folder, and firefox has enable java enabled under preferences, but when i try a java page it says plugin needed (java)
[03:35] <Nihil85> hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?
[03:35] <meng> null: good question, but i can't even fetch mplayer to know about it
[03:36] <timfrost> meng, are you running dapper?
[03:36] <poningru> timfrost, ok let me try that
[03:36] <null> meng, cos the previous 'release' is more than 8 months old!
[03:36] <meng> timfrost: dapper, here
[03:36] <kb3eqa> howdy all
[03:37] <null> meng, with mplayer i always use cvs. i don't bother with packages on _any_ distro
[03:37] <timfrost> meng, it may not have been released by the development team.  You *do* have multiverse enabled in sources.list, I presume
[03:37] <poningru> so why do you think I cant open about or help?
[03:37] <kb3eqa> I have a conundrum. I'm running ubuntu as a file/web server, and I'm looking to upgrade the hard drive without starting from scratch
[03:37] <kb3eqa> I have several ghosting utilities here, but theres a problem
[03:37] <kb3eqa> ubuntu recognizes my slave drive (the drive I want to ghost TO)
[03:37] <meng> timfrost: i had multiverse enabled already
[03:37] <kb3eqa> but the disk utils aren't mounting it
[03:37] <kb3eqa> any ideas?
[03:37] <ToRTuReD_X> erm
[03:38] <ToRTuReD_X> how would i do a cp -rf of /home/name/Desktop/ to /dev/hdb1 ?
[03:38] <null> dude!
[03:38] <meng>  timfrost: how to go about the CVS process?
[03:38] <null> /dev/hdb1 is _not_ the mountpoint!
[03:38] <Nihil85> hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?
[03:38] <ToRTuReD_X> then what is?
[03:38] <dooglus> ToRTuReD_X: /dev/hdb1 is a raw device.  You would want to mount a filesystem from it onto a mount point
[03:38] <ToRTuReD_X> ;_;
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: Right click on the file -> properties -> open with
[03:39] <jason> is there a way to make sure firefox is not running from terminal
[03:39] <null> meng, go to http://www.mplayerhq.hu then download page.. scroll down below the skins section it gives you a short guide
[03:39] <ToRTuReD_X> how so dooglus ?
[03:39] <Nihil85> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks!
[03:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Nihil85: np :)
[03:39] <hnr> hnr i have got a problem compiling wine for x86_64 arch on ubuntu, but i remember using it on suse. what can i do for using it also in ubuntu ?
[03:39] <dooglus> ToRTuReD_X: check if it's already mounted:  "mount | grep hdb1"
[03:39] <hnr> vitamin hnr, 32-bit chroot
[03:39] <null> ToRTuReD_X, $ mount | grep 'hdb1'
[03:39] <hnr> how to set up 32-bit chroot under ubuntu ?
[03:39] <dooglus> great minds think alike null?
[03:40] <null> hehe
[03:40] <geneo93>  PuMpErNiCkLe is my favorite bread
[03:40] <theneonshadow> how do i remote connect to a windows computer
[03:41] <ToRTuReD_X> dooglus, null, /dev/hdb1 on /media/hdb1 type ntfs (ro,noexec,nosuid,nodev,fmask=0111,dmask=0000)
[03:41] <timfrost> !chroot
[03:41] <ubotu> it has been said that chroot is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[03:41] <theneonshadow> like myown computer, just not this one and windows
[03:41] <tyler__> Question: I was trying to install FF1.5.  I must of done something wrong.  Now, whenever I try to open it says "it can't find the child process".  Any idea how to make it go back so I can at least start over?
[03:41] <tyler__> Are there any good browsers other than Firefox that people prefer/like?
[03:42] <meng> tyler__: the fat lady sings
[03:42] <tyler__> meng, ?
[03:42] <meng> OPera
[03:42] <tyler__> meng, opera
[03:42] <ITSa341> Hello and good evening everyone
[03:42] <Nihil85> PuMpErNiCkLe, but with the right click, in properties i cannot find the right command... That command is on windows, i guess
[03:42] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:   so copy your files to /media/hdb1   and they will go to the mounted hard drive at that location
[03:43] <tyler__> meng, I was looking for it under the package manager but couldn't find it... any reason why? What could I search for?
[03:43] <ToRTuReD_X> oh
[03:43] <ToRTuReD_X> >_>
[03:43] <hnr> timfrost, thanks
[03:43] <meng> tyler__: manual install, go to opera.com and get the ubuntu debs
[03:43] <Jeffrae> hi all
[03:43] <meng> then sudo dpkg-i *opera package name*
[03:43] <tyler__> meng, I can't since I can't get on firefox.  Could you DCC me?
[03:44] <ToRTuReD_X> jbzz, still get a copy error
[03:44] <Jeffrae> What is te reccomended way to get a java runtime enviroment in breezy?  Just go to java.com and follow the instructions for the bin file?
[03:44] <EnsignRedshirt> Hello, world.
[03:44] <meng> tyler__:  i am on Gaim, DCC is out
[03:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about java
[03:44] <meng> tyler__: or else just apt get konqueror
[03:44] <Jeffrae> thanks _jason
[03:44] <_jason> Jeffrae: I would recommend the javadeb method
[03:44] <timfrost> jbzz, ToRTuReD_X can't write because the file saystem is NTFS, which linux doesn't (yet) support writing to.
[03:44] <tyler__> meng, what is konqueror?
[03:44] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about javadebs
[03:44] <CanadianSnow> OK, the ubuntu site really doesn't help AT ALL
[03:45] <ToRTuReD_X> ah son of a bitch
[03:45] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[03:45] <meng> tyler__: KDE's versitle browser cum file manager
[03:45] <Shadyman> how do i change what program Gnome's Keyboard Shortcut opens for "Music Player?"
[03:45] <ToRTuReD_X> well
[03:45] <ToRTuReD_X> anyone know a good free linux burner?
[03:45] <ToRTuReD_X> like maybe gnomebaker?
[03:45] <null> _jason, how do i manage startup services?
[03:45] <EnsignRedshirt> A bit off topic, but maybe a quickie:  Does anyone know of a short guide to setting up a program that I wrote so that it uses the standard configure; make; make install sequence?  I can set up my own very basic Makefile, but I'm now looking for something like "Configure for Dummies".
[03:45] <Jeffrae> _jason, what is the deal with java being in a different universe or whatever?
[03:45] <null> from the cmdline i mean
[03:45] <geneo93> gcombust
[03:46] <_jason> Shadyman: I have searched for that and been very unsuccessfull, I would suggest creating a custom command.  Ubotu will send you a link
[03:46] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:   Is it an NTFS filesystem on that hard drive?    You are correct.  Cannot write to that.   Is there any unpartitioned room on that hard drive?
[03:46] <Jeffrae> _jason, copyright snafus?
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Shadyman about shortcut
[03:46] <timfrost> ToRTuReD_X, can you reformat that partition with VFAT(FAT32)?  Because you can read and write VFAT on both Windows and Linux
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about erpos
[03:46] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffrae about repos
[03:46] <ToRTuReD_X> timfrost, can't shit on there i wanna keep
[03:46] <_jason> Jeffrae: if you are still unsure after reading that link, ask me and I'll explain as best I can
[03:46] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:   timfrost is heading in the correct direction.
[03:47] <Jeffrae> thanks
[03:47] <psusi> shrink the ntfs partition, make a fat32 partition, copy some files over, repeat
[03:47] <humbraro> !phpbb
[03:47] <ubotu> humbraro: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[03:47] <kb3eqa> Does Ubuntu have a built in disk partitioning util like qtparted?
[03:47] <humbraro> hehe
[03:47] <ToRTuReD_X> jbzz, yeh i know but i can't format this so any way of installing a burner?
[03:47] <_jason> kb3eqa: gparted
[03:47] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[03:47] <kb3eqa> thansk jason
[03:47] <psusi> kb3eqa, yea... qtparted... and gparted
[03:47] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video? ?!?!?!?!?!?
[03:47] <german> hi people, a netstat on my box says I have this port open 32771, I found "/usr/bin/python2.4" is the one listening. Is this normal??
[03:48] <humbraro> does anybody here know a quick and dirty way to get a phpbb set up  going?
[03:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell CanadianSnow about patience
[03:48] <rodolfo> hola
[03:48] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:  I have not done so.  Do you plan on sharing files often win a Windows machine?
[03:48] <psusi> german, is it listening on * or only on 127.0.0.1?
[03:48] <timfrost> ToRTuReD_X, is there some unallocated space on either drive? Coz if not, a CD/DVD may be your only option.
[03:48] <jbzz> ToRTuReD_X:  often WITH a Windows machine
[03:48] <regeya> NOT ENSIGN RASSMUNSEN!!!!! WHYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!
[03:48] <_jason> humbraro: phpbb2 seems to be in the repos, specifically universe
[03:49] <regeya> sorry, wrong channel for that sort of behavior.
[03:49] <meng> tyler__: use konqueror for the time being and go to opera.com with it
[03:49] <ToRTuReD_X> timfrost, none at all
[03:49] <humbraro> _jason: ya, i apt-getted it, and http://localhost still shows a  directory listing
[03:49] <regeya> so, anyone have any idea what pkg the command-line ruby templating util 'erb' is in?
[03:49] <_jason> humbraro: I haven't installed it myself, have you tried searching the forums?
[03:49] <german> psusi, only on 127.0.0.1
[03:49] <humbraro> _jason: /etc/apache2/sites-available also doesn't have anything other than the default too
[03:50] <regeya> ruby stdlib is split, like, 50,000 #$%! ways
[03:50] <regeya> locate erb
[03:50] <regeya> and now I'm typing shell commands into the irc client...interesting...
[03:50] <humbraro> _jason: yes, i searched google, however phpbb isn't the easiest thing to find
[03:51] <meng> null: is there a way to add mplayer-gui with CVS?
[03:51] <regeya> /usr/bin/erb1.8 <- those responsible will hopefully be sacked.
[03:51] <timfrost> regeya, try searching packages.ubuntu.com.
[03:51] <CanadianSnow> Isn;t phpbb a fourm host?
[03:51] <psusi> german, then don't worry about it
[03:51] <regeya> timfrost, found it.  it was named 'erb1.8
[03:52] <jbzz> timfrost:  guess he could have sent the file from his Ubuntu machine to a friend and have the friend send it back to him on his Windows machine.
[03:52] <null> meng, sure.. but i just found something that might be useful to you
[03:52] <german> psusi, ok, thank you
[03:52] <null> meng, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto
[03:52] <ITSa341> is there a way to enable access to windows ntfs filesystems with the live cdrom?
[03:53] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[03:53] <CanadianSnow> or, even start autodetection of like anything?
[03:53] <meng>  null: does that work with dapper?
[03:53] <_jason> ITSa341: yes, mount them
[03:53] <CanadianSnow> w0rd0r are you an asker or a helper?
[03:53] <null> meng, no idea..
[03:53] <Jeffrae> Anything nicer about Blackdown's distro of j2re?
[03:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell ITSa341 about ntfs
[03:53] <null> anyway, you can get cvs installed.. its pretty simple
[03:53] <ITSa341> _jason  ty
[03:54] <_jason> ITSa341: follow the manual instructions (use fdisk -l, mkdir /mount/point, mount ...)
[03:54] <ITSa341> _jason  and this is available from the live cdrom?
[03:54] <meng> null: i had to use mplayer from source coz there's no mplayer packs, or even w32codecs
[03:54] <null> _jason, how do i manage the bootup services?
[03:54] <kb3eqa> apparently a server install of ubuntu does NOT have a partitioning util
[03:54] <null> meng, there is w32codecs deb
[03:54] <_jason> ITSa341: and play close attentions to the options you need for the proper permissions.  Yes, you use the terminal
[03:54] <meng> then the gcc issue rears it's ugly head
[03:55] <ITSa341> _jason  tyvm
[03:55] <null> dunno where.. but its the newest iirc .. newest because it was released ages ago :)
[03:55] <null> meng, what gcc issue?
[03:55] <null> i have mplayer cvs running fine with gcc 4.x
[03:55] <meng> You are not using a supported compiler
[03:55] <Jeffrae> What is different about Blackdown Java and Sun Java.. I know it is asll sun under the covers
[03:55] <Jeffrae> Any advantages?
[03:56] <null> gcc -dumpversion gives me 4.0.2
[03:56] <null> and it worked fine!
[03:56] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[03:56] <meng> null: all i have now is the cvs files for mplayer and ffmpeg
[03:57] <_jason> null: 'man update-rc.d' or 'man init', I don't know the details
[03:57] <_jason> Jeffrae: java sucks, but sun's will probably run a bit better
[03:58] <meng> null: you there?
[03:58] <Jeffrae> Hey now.. Java is not all that bad.. I use it at work in my  Websphere enviroment.. ;)
[03:58] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[03:58] <null> meng, and? you want to get w32codecs?
[03:58] <_jason> Jeffrae: heh sorry.  I mean that a lot of the java programs I have used have horrible memory leaks
[03:58] <CanadianSnow> Brendon?
[03:58] <meng> i want mplayer to play all the anime and DH that i have now in the end
[03:59] <meng> so i need w32codecs isn't?
[03:59] <null> sure, it will.. i even encode to h264!
[03:59] <Jeffrae> yeah
[03:59] <null> but thats with some help from x264 :)
[03:59] <Jeffrae> I think many people rely too much on the garbage collector.. then again sun claims that you can!! :)
[03:59] <null> meng, on that page with the skins, etc.. just scroll upwards to grab the w32 codecs package
[04:00] <CanadianSnow> guh
[04:00] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[04:00] <CanadianSnow> nbound?
[04:00] <_jason> CanadianSnow: please wait a little longer before repeating
[04:00] <nbound> yah?
[04:00] <meng> null:  what is the compile steps, coz plain ./conifgure won't work
[04:01] <nbound> CanadianSnow, yeah?
[04:01] <null> meng, what errors do you get? i have found #mplayer to be very nice people :)
[04:01] <meng> null: Error: Bad gcc version
[04:02] <Jeffrae> _jason.. Thanks  I am good to go.. I am going to reboot to take care of a kernal update that I let updater do.
[04:02] <null> meng, can you paste the output from ./configure to a pastebin ?
[04:02] <null> also include gcc -dumpversion
[04:02] <CanadianSnow> like this long?
[04:02] <CanadianSnow> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[04:03] <_jason> CanadianSnow: you do realize that no one is ignoring you, we just don't know the answer...  Come back in half an hour when different people are on
[04:03] <null> CanadianSnow, heh.. what autodetect?
[04:03] <nbound> CanadianSnow, it should be autodetected by install
[04:03] <meng> http://pastebin.com/510943
[04:03] <null> you mean your sound card doesn;t work?
[04:04] <nbound> CanadianSnow, or when you reconfigure x perhaps =/
[04:04] <CanadianSnow> reconfigure x???
[04:04] <keir> hi, i am installing ubuntu breezy on a new fujitsu laptop, and it's pretty broken: i get connect-debounce failed messages from the kernel. How hard is it to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.13 on ubuntu?
[04:05] <geneo93> dont bother
[04:05] <CanadianSnow> ya, my soundcard doesn't work, and when i installed i had crappy monitor, but i have 2
[04:05] <nbound> ubotu tell canadian snow about xorg
[04:05] <CanadianSnow> and with both of them stuff is always off the screen
[04:05] <nbound> ubotu tell CanadianSnow about xorg
[04:05] <null> meng, gcc -dumpversion ?
[04:05] <null> whats the output?
[04:05] <nbound> CanadianSnow, read what ubotu told you
[04:06] <meng> null: command not found
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> uh, ok
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> ty
[04:06] <bcmiller> CanadianSnow: could it be your monitor needs to be adjusted?  If you see stuff but it's not centered that's up to your monitor
[04:06] <null> also, whats these permission denied messages? where are you running this
[04:06] <null> meng, you don;t have gcc!
[04:06] <luite> is there an alternative for rdesktop (remote desktop client). this program is completely unusably when the server often redraws
[04:06] <keir> so: breezy -> 2.6.13+ easily?
[04:06] <CanadianSnow> nope, its not that bcmiller
[04:07] <bcmiller> CanadianSnow: what do you see when you boot?  Just the command line interface?
[04:07] <pansonic> for some reason I can't limewire pro on limewire - can someone help me?
[04:07] <pansonic> find*
[04:07] <meng> null: what packs to apt-get for?
[04:08] <meng> i installed gcc4.0, now i wonder why now
[04:08] <Nihil85> hi! i wanted to know how i can set a specific program to open a specific file; can anyone help me?
[04:08] <null> err.. after you installed gcc -dumpversion output is 'command not found' ?
[04:08] <arrinmurr> luite: krdc - don't know if it's any better though
[04:08] <nbound> Nihil85, what extension is the file
[04:09] <Nihil85> nbound, i wanted to set Xmms like default mp3 player
[04:09] <_jason> Nihil85: right click, properties, open with
[04:09] <Nihil85> and gedit for txt
[04:09] <meng> null: yes
[04:10] <Nihil85> _jason, i don't have this option in the properties menu
[04:10] <_jason> Nihil85: are you sure?
[04:10] <Nihil85> maybe because at this moment i'm with kde
[04:10] <nbound> Nihil85, right click on the file and goto properties then the "open with" tab
[04:10] <_jason> Nihil85: oh... yeah I know nothing about kde... if no one can help you hear, try #kubuntu
[04:10] <Nihil85> nbound, i should be damned if i can find this option
[04:11] <_jason> here even
[04:11] <nbound> Nihil85, its there :P
[04:12] <BoldStrike> how do you log into ubuntu live as root?
[04:12] <Nihil85> nbound, the fact that at this moment i'm under KDE can justify the fact that i cannot find this option, or maybe i have something broken?
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> bcmiller CanadianSnow: what do you see when you boot?  Just the command line interface?
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> ummm
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> Well, on this monitor, Its hardly readable
[04:12] <nbound> Nihil85, ohhh im using nautilus in gnome
[04:12] <bcmiller> Oh so it's a total mess
[04:12] <Nihil85> i'm using konqueror atm
[04:12] <CanadianSnow> and on the other one I dont really bother to read it all, If it even stayed long enougf to read
[04:12] <_jason> BoldStrike: I don't think you can, you have sudo access on the livecd
[04:13] <nbound> Nihil85, never used kde so u'll have to ask some1 else
[04:13] <_jason> ubotu: tell BoldStrike about sudo
[04:13] <Nihil85> nbound, however, thanks
[04:13] <bcmiller> is the screen clear but it's just the command line thing or is it garbled and unreadable
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> wait...what are you asking bcmkiller
[04:13] <glacious> is it impossible to change your refresh rate from 85 in Dapper?  I've tried everything, autoconfig, changing xorg.conf by adding modeline/Vert/Horiz rates.  any suggestions?
[04:13] <CanadianSnow> bcmiller**
[04:13] <bcmiller> do you have readable text on your screen
[04:13] <luite> arrinmurr: ah, tnx, i'll try :)
[04:13] <nbound> glacious, reconfigure x
[04:13] <BoldStrike> _jason: what if i want to use Nautilus to view a HD that is available to root only?
[04:14] <glacious> nbound: i got dapper installed on SATA =)  ty.
[04:14] <_jason> BoldStrike: did you mount this cd yourself?
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> ya, its readable
[04:14] <_jason> BoldStrike: I mean hd
[04:14] <glacious> nbound: i did, i tried the autoconfig again, did nothing.
[04:14] <BoldStrike> _jason: yeh
[04:14] <bcmiller> ok try typing xorgconfig and answering the questions to get your monitor working
[04:14] <_jason> BoldStrike: is it ntfs or fat32?
[04:14] <glacious> nbound: all there is in Gnome is 85hz.  shows all my resolutions, but nothing i did would change anything for the refresh options in Gnome
[04:14] <CanadianSnow> questions? :p
[04:15] <BoldStrike> _jason: certain directories are locked
[04:15] <CanadianSnow> hold on, I'll go try some stuff.
[04:15] <BoldStrike> _jason: neither... it's reiser
[04:15] <nbound> glacious, o well why complain about 85 im using 60
[04:15] <glacious> bcmiller: the monitor works, it just has this bouncing box saying 'can't display this rate...'
[04:15] <kb3eqa> hey all. If I copy an entire hard drive from one drive to another (cp -options /) is it going to preserve my file permissions by default? or am I going to have to set some argument to do that?
[04:15] <glacious> nbound: it's an LCD, it does 75 @ 1280x1024, not 85.
[04:15] <PuMpErNiCkLe> kb3eqa: For copying drives, you should be using dd, not cp.
[04:15] <bcmiller> Oh... well he needs to hit Alt+cntl+backspace right?
[04:16] <kb3eqa> hmm
[04:16] <kb3eqa> how does that work?
[04:16] <_jason> BoldStrike: use a umask, or fmask/dmask combo when you mount it.  OR, if you really want a root privileged nautilus, 'gksudo nautilus'
[04:16] <glacious> nbound: the adapter is set to 85, the monitor is running at 60.  the adapter keeps trying to send it 85hz signals, so the monitor keeps displaying a bouncing box saying it can't display it, even tho the desktop is still behind the bouncing box.
[04:16] <kb3eqa> because I've about lost my mind trying to deal with norton ghost
[04:16] <bcmiller> sorry... that was for CanadianSnow
[04:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dd if=/dev/hd* of=/dev/hd*
[04:16] <men1> null: having a bad connection morning here
[04:16] <glacious> nbound: it's like the monitor auto-throttles back the refresh to something it can handle, but constantly displays that error box until the card stops sending it refreshes that are too high.
[04:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You'll probably want to read the man page for it, just to make sure you use the right options.
[04:16] <nbound> glacious, did u select the right max refresh in x reconfig
[04:17] <hyphenated> PuMpErNiCkLe: you're joking, right?
[04:17] <kb3eqa> so in my case it would be: dd if=/dev/hda1 of=/media/hdb1
[04:17] <kb3eqa> or something similar?
[04:17] <glacious> nbound: I entered in my monitor's VertRefresh:  55-75
[04:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell BoldStrike about ntfs
[04:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hyphenated: Say what?
[04:17] <hyphenated> you use dd to _clone_ a drive to an exact same make and model of another one
[04:17] <_jason> BoldStrike: that link will give you the info you need, read the 'manual part'
[04:17] <glacious> nbound: but in Gnome, when i goto Display Resolutions, it shows many resolutions, but only one refresh. 85.
[04:17] <nbound> glacious, run the one where u pick the max res i just pick 1280x1024 @ 60 and it enables all the ones i can use
[04:18] <kb3eqa> thats what I want to do hyphenated
[04:18] <hyphenated> but you do _not_ use it for copying one set of files from one place to another
[04:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hyphenated: That's what he wants to do, though - copy an entire drive.
[04:18] <hyphenated> kb3eqa: are they _exactly_ the same make, model, size and structure?
[04:18] <kb3eqa> no
[04:18] <glacious> nbound: i use: dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:18] <BoldStrike> _jason: i'm mounting an image file though, using loop.. and it's a reiser fs
[04:18] <kb3eqa> but i can stretch the partitions later cant I?
[04:18] <null> then you don;t want to use dd
[04:18] <kb3eqa> so just go with cp?
[04:18] <hyphenated> kb3eqa: dd is probably a bit too close to the disk structure to be a 'safe' way to do it
[04:19] <glacious> nbound: i've manually edited the xorg.conf to have the vert and horiz rates.  restarted gdm, and it still just shows 85.  nothing changes it, or adds other rates.
[04:19] <kb3eqa> hmm
[04:19] <kb3eqa> ok I'll try just a CP first
[04:19] <hyphenated> I'd probably use tar or dump
[04:19] <kb3eqa> its worth a shot
[04:19] <null> kb3eqa, why not just boot live then cp over the stuff ?
[04:19] <_jason> BoldStrike: I believe the mask options would still work, ignore the fact the link says windows.  It has info their that you can use.  If it's too much trouble, just do 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal.  Doesn't really matter since you are on a livecd
[04:19] <men1> null: should i downgrade gcc?
[04:19] <haasteem> eggman_: hi, those 2 commands you gave me didn't work :(
[04:19] <kb3eqa> I've been battling with a damn livecd with norton ghost on it for an hour
[04:19] <CS|Away> IF anyones talking 2 m, please mention "CS|Away"
[04:19] <kb3eqa> and no matter what I do, it will only mount the master hd
[04:19] <CS|Away> thanks
[04:19] <null> what version? i have 4.0.2 on opensuse 10.0 and mplayer cvs works great
[04:19] <kb3eqa> so it wont work
[04:19] <BoldStrike> _jason: ok. thanks
[04:20] <Nihil85> can anyone suggest me the name of a mediaplayer that can handle MediaLibrary, can enqueue files with a click, with an equalizer, like winamp?
[04:20] <jbzz> kb3eqa:  I suggest tar with the i and p options
[04:20] <hyphenated> kb3eqa: use a linux-based live cd like the ubuntu one or knoppix or something
[04:20] <_jason> Nihil85: try amarok
[04:20] <kb3eqa> I have knoppix here
[04:20] <null> jbzz, err? why tar?
[04:20] <men1> null; ubuntu's gcc4.0
[04:20] <null> he wants to copy the stuff.. not backup the stuff
[04:20] <Nihil85> I've tried beep, xmms and rythmbox, but they haven't all these functions
[04:20] <Nihil85> _jason, ok, i will try it
[04:21] <null> kb3eqa, if you really want to preserve perms etc. use cp -a ...
[04:21] <hyphenated> null: tar can be used for lots of things
[04:21] <null> -a will preserve all
[04:21] <kb3eqa> ok, just to sooth my curiousity, does cp preserve file permissions by default?
[04:21] <kb3eqa> useful information to have ni the future
[04:21] <_jason> Nihil85: some people recommend quod libet, but I haven't tried it.  I like amarok though, it's worth the kdelibs
[04:21] <kb3eqa> thats what I was thinking null
[04:21] <kb3eqa> hmm
[04:21] <null> hyphenated, but i have never known tar to use for copying and use the later copy as a replacement!
[04:21] <hyphenated> if you're using cp, then use -x too
[04:21] <GameOver> hey everyone im using a ibm laptop... and the button u use as the scroll wheel doesnt work ... anyone know how to fix this?
[04:21] <Shadyman> _jason: Sorry, it's not quite what i was looking for.
[04:22] <_jason> Shadyman: sorry, what isn't/
[04:22] <Nikusan> does anyone know how to use the 'ATI Control' app that is in xfce and kde in gnome?
[04:22] <kb3eqa> so its going to be: cp -a -x / /media/hdb1
[04:22] <Shadyman> _jason: The "keyboard shortcuts" thing
[04:22] <kb3eqa> ?
[04:22] <null> well, if he follows my suggestionof booting live, then he doesn;t need to worry about -x
[04:22] <haasteem> hi, i have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem
[04:22] <BoldStrike> _jason: that seems to have worked. thnx again
[04:23] <_jason> Shadyman: hrmm I must have misunderstood.  Didn't you want a shortcut you could start your media player with?
[04:23] <_jason> BoldStrike: np
[04:23] <michael__> hello?
[04:23] <michael__> I need a lil help plz
[04:23] <GameOver> does anyone know how to get rid of the black frames around mpalyer when u go full screen or zooom in... the video doest get bigger only the b ars do
[04:23] <Shadyman> _jason: I already have a shortcut to start my media player. That came with Ubuntu. I just want to change what it starts.
[04:23] <BoldStrike> michael__: just ask your question
[04:24] <_jason> Shadyman: yes, I wanted to do this once.  I couldn't find out how.  I finally resolved that I would instead create a new shortcut that opens the media player of my choice.  Basically the same thing just not as 'clean'
[04:24] <null> GameOver, thats an mplayer specific question.
[04:24] <null> #mplayer will be best to answer that
[04:24] <GameOver> didnt know there was such a channel
[04:24] <glacious> is there a way to FORCE gnome/xorg to use a certain Vertical Refresh Rate?
[04:24] <michael__> how do I install Mplayer. Something keeps telling me that I need to tweak something in the repository and I have no idea where that is.
[04:24] <null> GameOver, though i would guess you're not having xv output
[04:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell michael__ about ask
[04:24] <null> just standard x11
[04:25] <null> GameOver, mplayer -vo help
[04:25] <_jason> ubotu: tell michael__ about mplayer
[04:25] <GameOver> xv output?
[04:25] <GameOver> ok ill check it out thanks
[04:25] <Shadyman> _jason: Yeah, only thing is, I know i changed it from XMMS to rhythmbox, it can't be that hard.
[04:25] <arrinmurr> GameOver: mplayer -vo xv file
[04:25] <_jason> michael__: if you still have problems after reading the wiki, pastebin your error and give us the URL
[04:25] <Shadyman> _jason: Maybe i'll grep my log files.
[04:25] <null> GameOver, anyway. best is to ask #mplayer. very nice people there
[04:25] <BoldStrike> michael__: there you go...
[04:25] <GameOver> ok will do thanks
[04:25] <_jason> Shadyman: really?  I thought default was rythmbox
[04:25] <dooglus> michael__: you type "sudo apt-get install mplayer-386"
[04:26] <Shadyman> _jason: Oh, might be when i played with another hotkeys app then
[04:26] <null> dooglus, do you know what version of mplayer is in universe?
[04:26] <null> is it a release version or cvs ?
[04:26] <michael__> @_@???
[04:26] <dfolkins> hi everyone
[04:26] <_jason> !info mplayer-386
[04:26] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[04:26] <dooglus> null: which version of ubuntu?
[04:26] <null> breezy
[04:26] <michael__> I think that I got both downloaded onto my desktop
[04:26] <null> omg! thats pretty old!
[04:26] <arrinmurr> GameOver: you can also edit it to be the default in /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf , or if you use gmplayer, you'll find the option in preferences
[04:26] <dooglus> null: I don't think there's a version in universe in breezy
[04:27] <null> dooglus, read what ubotu said just a few lines above
[04:27] <null> Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Pack...
[04:27] <dooglus> null: I did.  did you?
[04:27] <null> i did, and thats why i said its old
[04:28] <dooglus> null: ubotu is talking about the version in multiverse, not universe
[04:28] <null> er.. sory.. i confuse universe and multiverse..
[04:28] <kb3eqa> null
[04:28] <BoldStrike> _jason: one other question, if i wanted to say dump the entire .img file to create an actual directory tree on a disk partition, how would i do that?
[04:28] <kb3eqa> will cp -a -x preserve symlinks too?
[04:28] <dfolkins> anyone care to answer a few semi-noob questions?
[04:28] <null> i'm still not used to the various repo naming conventions
[04:28] <dooglus> there was a new version of mplayer in dapper today
[04:28] <dooglus> ii  mplayer-nogui        0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux
[04:29] <frazmanw> [!]  Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions.
[04:29] <frazmanw> Instead, they should be the same. If you have many compilers
[04:29] <frazmanw> installed, you can specify the correct one with command (in bash)  export CC=kgcc
[04:29] <frazmanw> before trying to install the driver. Replace kgcc with the command
[04:29] <frazmanw> required for compiling kernels (kgcc is often used in Red Hat systems).
[04:29] <_jason> BoldStrike: not sure about that
[04:29] <tobeya> sed 's/breezy/dapper/g' </etc/apt/sources.list >/tmp/sources.list ; cp /tmp/sources.list /etc/apt ; apt-get dist-upgrade ; PRAY
[04:29] <null> kb3eqa, man cp. what does it say? -a is archive.. is equivalent to -dpR
[04:29] <BoldStrike> _jason: i'm sure i use dd, just not sure how
[04:29] <null> see that?
[04:29] <haasteem> i have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem
[04:29] <dooglus> frazmanw: it's gcc-3.4 that you need
[04:29] <null> now find out whats -d -p and -R for :)
[04:29] <haasteem> also, thunderbird, gaim or xchat won't connect
[04:30] <frazmanw> dooglus, I am trying to compile webcam driver kernel how do I spoecify
[04:30] <null> dooglus, that pre7try2 is still old
[04:30] <gatorgrip> anyone else have problems with add applications in dapper?
[04:30] <dooglus> tobeya: do you know about "sed -i"?  it does the replace 'in place' so you don't need the "cp" step
[04:30] <kb3eqa> hmm null, it says -d "same as --no-dereference --preserve=link"
[04:30] <kb3eqa> that seems like maybe what I want?
[04:30] <sklav> hey gusy when ubuntu says the enterprise edition does that mean aka i select server on the install?
[04:31] <dooglus> frazmanw: I'm not sure.  if you remove "gcc-4.0" and only have gcc-3.4 installed it'll be ok though I think
[04:31] <null> kb3eqa, :)
[04:31] <gatorgrip> enterprise = free
[04:31] <frazmanw> dooglus, I didn't put gcc 4.0 in though did I?
[04:31] <sklav> gatorgrip, what does that mean?
[04:31] <dooglus> frazmanw: 4.0 is the default
[04:31] <sklav> is there a different iso?
[04:31] <gatorgrip> no
[04:32] <frazmanw> dooglus, so why remove it??? won't work?
[04:32] <gatorgrip> it says on the ubuntu firefox start page
[04:32] <dooglus> sklav: Ubuntu will always be free of charge, and there is no extra fee for the "enterprise edition", we make our very best work available to everyone on the same Free terms.
[04:32] <dooglus> sklav: ie. there *is* no enterprise edition...
[04:32] <sklav> ok
[04:32] <timfrost> dooglus, frazmanw, you can do 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc3.4' before you run configure. That forces use of the gcc-3.4 binary
[04:32] <kb3eqa> hmm, null, could you take a look at your cp man real quick? Theres an option -p (preserve mode, ownership, timestamps by default, if possible additional attributes: links, all)
[04:32] <kb3eqa> that seems like what I REALLY want, but its confusing me how I'd use it
[04:32] <sklav> i thought there was a certain install image like "server"
[04:32] <dooglus> timfrost: ok.
[04:33] <frazmanw> timfrost, tks
[04:33] <tobeya> dooglus, I have this nasty habit of using traditional unix stuff and ignoring gnu extensions, although SRV5 sed might have it (haven't checked)
[04:33] <gatorgrip> that's for setting up servers
[04:33] <sklav> only enetrprise added more polish maybe different repos
[04:33] <sklav> i know
[04:33] <sklav> i was curious
[04:33] <sklav> more than anything
[04:33] <TestDummy> Firestarter keeps on asking me for a password every time I boot. Any ideas?
[04:33] <sklav> oem is an option thought
[04:33] <tobeya> RHEL is not really polished anyways
[04:33] <TestDummy> (It's not that I don't know the password, I want to know why it's asking me about it)
[04:34] <sklav> tobeya, to be honest rhel is slightly more performant
[04:34] <gatorgrip> what is the advantage of oem install?
[04:34] <sklav> not by much
[04:34] <tobeya> they should call it RHAEL - RH Almost Enterprise Linux
[04:34] <null> kb3eqa, err.. what do you mean? cp -a /home/null /mnt/new_drive/home
[04:34] <sklav> oem allows the user to select the language they wish and s on
[04:34] <null> that'll put my home dir in that drive now. all symlinks included..
[04:34] <sklav> for people selling systems with ubuntu pre-installed
[04:35] <tobeya> sklav, irrelevant when they can't even get their SAN support straight: without solid SAN support your OS doesn't belong in any "enterprise"
[04:35] <sklav> not as a flame but rhel is handles load slightly better
[04:35] <kb3eqa> ah, cool, permissions and all null?
[04:35] <frazmanw> timfrost, Warning: /usr/bin/gcc3.4 missing
[04:35] <frazmanw>  is an error i got
[04:35] <kb3eqa> ignore that null
[04:35] <kb3eqa> I figured it out
[04:35] <sklav> tobeya, i was reffering to load more than anything
[04:35] <kb3eqa> Thanks for the advice :)
[04:35] <tristanmike> question: When I run Screensaver Preferences, I get an XScreensaver Warning: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.:". Launch it now?  Can someone explain what this means please?
[04:35] <dooglus> frazmanw: install package 'gcc-3.4'
[04:35] <sklav> other than that no diff
[04:35] <null> kb3eqa, good. i was just about to say 'read the man page _again_' ;)
[04:35] <GameOver> arrinmurr: how do i make it the default... can u tell me what line to write... no ones helpin me in mplayer
[04:36] <tobeya> sklav, it holds up OK but it still tanks under memory pressure from a stupid runaway mod_perl app
[04:36] <null> tobeya, its called rhel because of the support the company offers.
[04:36] <Shadyman> _jason: Well, Maybe i can live with rhythmbox, even though it doesn't let me change file tags./
[04:36] <interfear> Whenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?
[04:36] <null> other than that, theres not much else..
[04:36] <sklav> tobeya, i never said it was perfect hehe
[04:36] <sklav> im on ubuntu for a reason
[04:36] <sklav> i find deployement a hell of alot faster
[04:36] <_jason> Shadyman: or you can create a new shortcut :), or if you really want a hack, change the binary :)
[04:36] <tobeya> null, agreed ... not really worth it if you know linux though ... I managed 30 or so servers with RHEL subscriptions and only used support once and ended up with no resolution
[04:37] <sklav> no adding repos other than what is shipped
[04:37] <kb3eqa> If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a linux n00b, and these argument things confuse the hell out of me :P
[04:37] <Shadyman> _jason: hehe. is it just me or does rhythmbox also not sync to ipods?
[04:37] <sklav> kb3eqa, ubuntu is great
[04:37] <null> tobeya, i agree on that. but sometimes its better (from a company perspective) to have some company responsible for providing support
[04:37] <_jason> Shadyman: no idea on that one
[04:37] <sklav> dont let my confusion works its magic on you
[04:37] <TestDummy> Nobody knows why Firestarter bugs me for password on login?
[04:38] <tobeya> null, which is the only reason I pushed to get that support :)
[04:38] <null> so as to not 'force' the sysadmin to know _everything_ :)
[04:38] <_jason> TestDummy: because you set it to start at login?
[04:38] <haasteem> TestDummy: it's a program you must run as root
[04:38] <GameOver> arrinmurr?
[04:38] <TestDummy> Uh huh, and how do I change it to do that?
[04:38] <sklav> TestDummy, the firestarter website has a fix for that
[04:38] <sklav> i used it a while ago
[04:38] <Doomhammer> is it safe to remove PCI cards while linux is running ?
[04:38] <sklav> i have since switched to shorewall
[04:38] <ubuntu> !w32codecs
[04:38] <sklav> Doomhammer, i dont recommend it
[04:38] <ubotu> from memory, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:39] <Doomhammer> sklav: awww, but i don't want to shut down :P
[04:39] <haasteem> TestDummy: there you go, i didnt know that... i always start it with password
[04:39] <Doomhammer> sklav: but it's probobly safer :)
[04:39] <tobeya> does Dapper use gcc 3.4 for the kernel or 4.x?
[04:39] <sklav> Doomhammer, is your pci hot swappable?
[04:39] <dooglus> tobeya: how can you tell?
[04:39] <TestDummy> I remember setting it up before and having it just start on login.
[04:39] <null> Doomhammer, as your name says, i'd even say that you might try hitting it with a hammer
[04:39] <interfear> Whenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?
[04:39] <sklav> example some dell poweredge servers and proliants are
[04:39] <null> cos you don;t want to shut it down.. please don;t make such crazy statements
[04:39] <tobeya> dooglus, I guess I'll query the packages just seeing if anybody knew off hand
[04:40] <dooglus> tobeya: which packages would you query?
[04:40] <diner> Hey
[04:40] <geneo93> sklav:  have you tried mandria cooker as of late
[04:40] <stevenj> I cant remember who I was talking too about testing "flight 3" a while ago, but I installed nvidia-glx and X server still will not work..I also nvidia-glx-config enable too...any suggestions?
[04:41] <sklav> geneo93, i havent used a mandrake product since Mandrake 7.0
[04:41] <diner> Is there a way to see the address bar in nautilus?
[04:41] <TestDummy> haasteem: Any ideas on how to fix the problem though?
[04:41] <Steil> diner: ctrl + l
[04:41] <dooglus> diner: type control-l
[04:41] <Steil> L
[04:41] <stevenj> Is it possible to copy my breezy xorg config and use that in flight 3? It should be the same right?
[04:41] <TestDummy> I don't see anything on their site, and I'm not too sure about running it as root.
[04:41] <tristanmike> is it safe to install a program on top of itself? I did an install, but there were options that i wanted to select but didn't and now I don't have the option?
[04:41] <sklav> i used to work for Mandrake Linux
[04:41] <null> geneo93, are you using cooker? its been quite a while since i used cooker
[04:41] <tobeya> dooglus, I'm looking at linux-image-`uname -r` -- already installed that bit -- deciding whether to keep gcc-3.4 or not
[04:41] <Steil> stevenj: yes
[04:41] <geneo93> sklav:  i have it here with 2.6.15 smp
[04:41] <diner> Steil,dooglus:thank you so much guys
[04:41] <TestDummy> Wait, I think I found it..
[04:42] <sklav> i hear its good is all i can say
[04:42] <sklav> but gentoo is pretty sweet when it comes time to installing packages
[04:42] <stevenj> Steil, thanks...I wonder wny xorg config does'nt auto setup as in breezy...is it that since its in testing its set as a default or something
[04:42] <null> sklav, if 7.0 was the last version you used, then you haven't seen the good ones :(
[04:43] <sklav> null, i loved 7.0 :(
[04:43] <Steil> stevenj: No idea, I upgraded from breezy
[04:43] <null> heck no.. i loved 9.2. that was awesome!
[04:43] <sklav> i hated the fact that a kernel would blow the system out of the water
[04:43] <Steil> heh
[04:43] <diner> Steil,dooglus:Is there a way to make the address bar viewable all the time?
[04:43] <sklav> they used to rpm -Uvh kernel-x.x.x
[04:43] <Steil> stevenj: What do you tihink about xchat-gnome
[04:43] <Steil> diner: probably one of the gconf settings
[04:43] <sklav> instead of rpm -ivh kernel-x.x.x.
[04:43] <dooglus> diner: I didn't find it if there is
[04:43] <sklav> quite dumb
[04:44] <dooglus> diner: those silly buttons are more "accessible" apparently
[04:44] <null> sklav, err.. maybe during those 7.0 days you speak of!
[04:44] <sklav> especially since mandrake released kernels with experimental support
[04:44] <diner> dooglus:I hate them
[04:44] <diner> :(
[04:44] <sklav> yes only during those days
[04:44] <sklav> hehe
[04:44] <dooglus> diner: me too.  i stopped using nautilus altogether now
[04:44] <stevenj> Steil, not sure what you mean..are you asking me if I like xchat?
[04:44] <sklav> im actually contemplating trying mandriva 2006
[04:44] <null> anyway, you should know that 7.x wasn;t their 7.x release cos they started off from rh5.x iirc
[04:44] <interfear> Whenever I try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error at the same point.. it changes depending on which type of sytem i choose to install.. but it always crashes at the same time.. ive tried burning isos from various sources and none of them work.. any idea what could be causing the problem?
[04:45] <sklav> null, they copied redhat those days and changed some things
[04:45] <sklav> minor
[04:45] <Steil> stevenj: xchat-gnome is the new default interface dapper uses
[04:45] <krystoff> hi there please is there anyone with problem with evolution in imap ?
[04:45] <null> sklav, i know. which is why i said their 7.x wasn;t a _real_ 7.x :)
[04:45] <sklav> they officially went their own way in 8.0 - 9.0
[04:45] <sklav> i know
[04:45] <null> sklav, anyway i loved cooker..
[04:45] <sklav> like i mentionned i used too work for them
[04:45] <null> you know cooker used to get all the new stuff
[04:45] <stevenj> Steil, unfortunaly since I have not yet fixed xorg, I have not seen all the new stuff :)
[04:45] <null> very very fast
[04:45] <krystoff> cause here i'm in trouble there's no message in the list
[04:45] <Steil> ahh
[04:46] <sklav> cooker was nice
[04:46] <null> and all other distro were lagging
[04:46] <Steil> stevenj: what isn't working for you?
[04:46] <null> now its levelled though
[04:46] <sklav> cooker also cooked the system
[04:46] <krystoff> but i'm sure there's one in the imap folder
[04:46] <krystoff> is there any known bug about this ?
[04:46] <null> but man, i was amazed at the packaging .. damn fast
[04:46] <null> and cooker used to get all the free games as soon as they had some sort of release (or pre-release)
[04:46] <adriyel> null, ain't it nice?
[04:46] <sklav> null, they used some experimental gcc 4.x flag
[04:46] <adriyel> want something? apt-get it
[04:46] <sklav> for all compilations
[04:46] <stevenj> Steil, I clean install dapper flight 3 and everything installs fine...then x server fails (breezy works perfectly) I have a nvidia 5200
[04:46] <sklav> supposed 30% speed increase
[04:47] <null> adriyel, not really. i will _always_ get cvs mplayer :)
[04:47] <adriyel> null, why?
[04:47] <adriyel> optimization?
[04:47] <null> cos every packaged version of mplayer is old
[04:47] <sklav> stevenj, try sudo nvidia-config-glx enable
[04:47] <mcdenyer> hey i need help i installed Steam using wine and when i run it it works fine but i there is no text just buttons
[04:47] <adriyel> null, *nods*
[04:47] <stevenj> Steil, someone suggested simply installing the nvidia driver, but that did'nt make a difference
[04:47] <stevenj> sklav, I did, but sadly it did not work
[04:48] <null> not the optimization.. more to do with bugfixes, new features, additional support for encoders, etc.
[04:48] <dooglus> null: dapper's mplayer was taken from CVS around 24 hours ago - it's not too old.
[04:48] <null> dooglus, then good.
[04:48] <tobeya> stevenj, you will have difficulties with the latest nvidia driver straight from nvidia ... mainly that it doesn't play well with ubuntu's way of installing it
[04:48] <Steil> stevenj: when x fails to load, whats the output say?
[04:48] <haasteem> i have a problem with my internet connection... i suspect more specifically with eth0... adsl-start connects, but e.g. firefox won"t load any website... it sticks at connecting to, what could be the problem
[04:48] <haasteem> also, thunderbird, gaim or xchat won't connect
[04:48] <null> dooglus, but you mentioned a while back pre7try2 being in there?
[04:48] <dooglus> null it's mplayer (2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1) dapper
[04:48] <sklav> haasteem, you need to add a dns server to /etc/resolv.conf
[04:48] <tobeya> haasteem, does "iptables -n -L" show any more than, say 3-5 lines?
[04:49] <men1> null: still no mplayer for dapper
[04:49] <null> ah ok..
[04:49] <stevenj> sklav, (I am installing ubuntu nvidia driver btw) something about the mouse, and the core? maybe
[04:49] <tobeya> haasteem, err "sudo iptables -n -L"
[04:49] <null> dooglus, err.. did you just see what dooglus posted?
[04:49] <haasteem> tobeya: i don't know
[04:49] <null> sorry.. that was for meng
[04:49] <dooglus> null: it's still in multiverse - that's probably the problem
[04:49] <null> men1, dooglus null it's mplayer (2:0.99+1.0pre7try2+cvs20060117-0ubuntu1) dapper
[04:49] <tobeya> haasteem, run that command in a terminal
[04:49] <haasteem> tobeya: and i can"t chack right now as i am in windoze...
[04:49] <sklav> haasteem, your dsl is connecting but maybe your not getting your dns entries
[04:49] <tobeya> haasteem, ahh
[04:49] <sklav> check /etc/resolv.conf
[04:50] <purpleheart_USMC> What is a packet loss?
[04:50] <sklav> is it empty?
[04:50] <stevenj> I have breezy up now, and I wondering if I can use the xorg config for dapper?
[04:50] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: it's when a packet gets lost...
[04:50] <haasteem> sklav: and i can't check right now as i am in windoze...
[04:50] <sklav> stevenj, mouse and core in your xorg?
[04:50] <stevenj> sklav, yes
[04:50] <dooglus> purpleheart_USMC: if you're talking about ping output, it means the ping packet was sent, and the response never came back - it got lost somewhere
[04:50] <purpleheart_USMC> dooglus: thank you
[04:50] <haasteem> tobeya: what does that command tell me?
[04:51] <sklav> stevenj, what happens if you replace the nvidia with nv ? the default does it load?
[04:51] <stevenj> sklav that correct and the only that fails is ofcourse x server and resolver
[04:51] <Syco54645> how do i enable the route account
[04:51] <tobeya> hassteem, if it doesn't say ACCEPT a lot it means you have a firewall running that might be causing you trouble
[04:51] <stevenj> sklav, it does not
[04:51] <tobeya> haasteem, which is unlikely though
[04:51] <underscore_> Alright.
[04:51] <haasteem> tobeya: right
[04:51] <men1> dooglus: what is your multiverse deb line, the defaults does not seem to work?
[04:51] <Syco54645> i really want it so that i dont have to keep typing sudo over and over again
[04:51] <haasteem> tobeya: only thing i do run is firestarter
[04:51] <underscore_> Can someone give me the url to the resolution howto's?
[04:52] <stevenj> sklav, then I did a dpkg-reconfigure and took all the defaults but no difference
[04:52] <haasteem> tobeya: and then again, everything worked perfectly until last night...
[04:52] <dooglus> men1: my whole sources.list is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7299
[04:52] <sklav> steven u using dapper?
[04:52] <sklav> or breezy
[04:52] <haasteem> tobeya: and i didn't do anything funny...
[04:52] <stevenj> sklav, I am using breezy right now, but I wanting to test dapper
[04:52] <tobeya> haasteem, ahh make sure you also "cat /etc/resolv.conf" like somebody else mentioned
[04:52] <stevenj> sklav, I have trouble however with dapper
[04:52] <mcdenyer> can someone help me install tahoma.tff font?????
[04:53] <haasteem> tobeya: i tried to do ifdown eth0 and then ifup eth0, that didn't work
[04:53] <sklav> i have yet to install dapper
[04:53] <tobeya> haasteem, your ISP may have changed its address for its name server
[04:53] <sklav> i think that is my weekend project this week
[04:53] <Steil> stevenj: have you tried just dist-upgrading to dapper?
[04:53] <sklav> haasteem, are u suing pppoe for your isp?
[04:53] <stevenj> Steil, I have'nt
[04:53] <mcdenyer> i need help installing a font
[04:54] <keverets> Argh.  My "Wireless Connection" isn't being activated at boot time by the NetworkManager.  I have to manually go into Network Settings each time and click "Activate".  How can I get it to do this on its own?
[04:54] <haasteem> sklav: uhh... not sure... i use adsl-start to connect (which still works)
[04:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about fonts
[04:54] <stevenj> my question is since its just x server thats failing (I am sure its the config) can I use my breezy xorg config that is currently working
[04:54] <sklav> adsl-start?
[04:54] <sklav> haasteem, u using ubuntu?
[04:54] <sklav> or fedora?
[04:54] <haasteem> sklav: yes
[04:54] <Steil> stevenj: your breezy xorg config should work fine
[04:54] <haasteem> ubuntu
[04:55] <La_PaRCa> Is there a way I can rebuild the dpkg status file? Cuz its messing with my apt-get
[04:55] <sklav> rp-pppoe package is not part of ubunut is it?
[04:55] <sklav> haasteem, try running pppoeconfig
[04:55] <lysis> hey, anybody here know a program that i can print onto cd's with?   i'm getting an epson cd printer and i can't find any programs to print onto them with.  i have kcdlabel but it only does the front and back of cases; i need onto the disc itself.
[04:55] <sklav> that should make sure its ubuntu compatible 100%
[04:56] <stevenj> Steil, I suppose thats what I will try then thanks
[04:56] <haasteem> sklav: adsl-start is a shell script which starts the Roaring Penguin user-space PPPoE client
[04:56] <Steil> No problem
[04:56] <sklav> haasteem, i know
[04:56] <sklav> ive used it fro years
[04:56] <haasteem> oh.. ok
[04:57] <Steil> lysis: perhaps you could find a template for a cd?
[04:57] <sklav> haasteem, the pppoeconf is what worked for me on ubuntu
[04:57] <stevenj> I have been reading that dapper is mostly stable for alpha
[04:57] <geneo93> if hardware is detected properly
[04:58] <lysis> Steil, i've already got pictures.  i just need to know what prog to use to print the picture onto the disc
[04:58] <haasteem> sklav: alright... still i find it very odd that it suddenly stopped working properly, and as i said i was not doing anything exotic
[04:58] <sklav> haasteem, im not sure
[04:59] <sklav> i had issues with rp-pppoe on ubuntu
[04:59] <men1> dooglus: the us.archives mirror is down?
[04:59] <lysis> Steil, i've already tried kcdlabel and cdlabelgen     those are both for the books and papers.  i need the disc itself.
[04:59] <dooglus> stevenj: "stable" isn't a word I'd use to describe dapper.  "ubuntu-desktop" won't install at the moment for instance.
[04:59] <haasteem> sklav: ok... this is the first time i run into trouble with it
[04:59] <mcdenyer> _jason, hey i place my fonts in my /home/username/.fonts folder right?
[04:59] <dooglus> men1: I don't use it.  I just use "archive.ubuntu.com"
[04:59] <tobeya> dooglus, I'm just grabbing pieces at a time ... looks like stuff like gnomevfs is out of date
[05:00] <men1> dooglus: i dunno, the us mirror appears as a dapper default
[05:00] <men1> though i at malaysia now
[05:00] <dooglus> tobeya: I expect ubuntu-desktop will be installable again soon
[05:00] <Jimmi_jones> thought that I would stop by and let folks know that I got the internet radio associated with xmms like I was trying last night, thanks all, it just took a little monkeying.
[05:00] <_jason> mcdenyer: yeah
[05:01] <haasteem> sklav: if i check the resolv.conf, what should i look for? where do i find it? in /etc?
[05:01] <stevenj> dooglus, I see...I would just like to test it...if I ever get past x server issue.  Also I noticed that I get a lot of errors when doing apt-get update.  Not finding repos or something
[05:01] <tobeya> dooglus, likely
[05:01] <men1> dooglus: is there a list of dapper mirrors all over the world?
[05:01] <sklav> haasteem, yes in etc
[05:01] <dooglus> stevenj: you could try the "flight 3" cd, and update from there
[05:02] <CS|Away> how do I autodetect my sound and or video?
[05:02] <dooglus> men1: I don't know, but mostly you can put <country-code>.archive.ubuntu.com I think?
[05:02] <sklav> and you should see nameserver 192.168.1.3 for example
[05:02] <lysis> CS|Away, it autodetects when you install.
[05:02] <lysis> ...
[05:02] <lysis> oookay . . .
[05:03] <dooglus> men1: look here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive
[05:03] <stevenj> dooglus, thats what I have a burned it last night...it installs and then craps out at x-server and resolver
[05:03] <null> sklav, 192.168.1.3 as nameserver?
[05:03] <Steil> lysis: If you already have the images, I've just been reading and it appears you can use the gimp or any other image program to print to the cd, you just need the latest gutenprint drivers
[05:03] <sklav> no null
[05:03] <null> it won;t work for anyone else!
[05:03] <haasteem> sklav: alright, that's the dns, right?
[05:03] <sklav> i said example for the formating
[05:03] <sklav> yes
[05:04] <underscore_> brb
[05:04] <sklav> nameserver some.ip.address.
[05:04] <dooglus> stevenj: there were new X packages a few hours ago
[05:04] <lawrence> When Ubuntu first unpacks it sends a message that it cannot detect my hardware clock and has tried every known method.  This seems to be causing issues all down the line because Totem will not play.  (my DVD writer will not write either).
[05:04] <lysis> Steil, so when i install the printer (it's on it's way) i just install the latest drivers and it'll work?     where did you read up on this?     not sure how i should've searched that is all.
[05:04] <underscore_> Brb.
[05:04] <dooglus> stevenj: and xserver-xorg won't install at the moment: xserver-xorg: Depends: x11-common but it is not going to be installed
[05:05] <haasteem> sklav: ok, would these be the same in windows? (btw, everything works in windows)
[05:05] <Steil> lysis: the latest gutenprint drivers aren't in breezy, but they're in dapper... http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Epson-Stylus_Photo_R200 is where I looked
[05:05] <sklav> yes haasteem
[05:05] <sklav> ipconfig /all
[05:05] <lysis> ahh . . .
[05:05] <sklav> should show you your dns servers ip address
[05:05] <lysis> Steil, did you happen to see if the latest gutenprint drivers CAN be put onto breezy?
[05:05] <Steil> lysis: My search terms for google were "Printing cds in linux with epson cd printer"
[05:06] <lysis> Steil, thank you. =)
[05:06] <regeya> ooh, I have an R800...I've yet to figure out how to print to CD.
[05:06] <regeya> for that matter, I've yet to find out why I can't get cartridges locally.
[05:06] <underscore_> Hey.
[05:06] <haasteem> sklav: ok, let me check
[05:06] <stevenj> dooglus, what are my options remake a cd? Will it be updated?
[05:06] <lysis> Steil, i was searching vaguely i assume.   "cd print linux program" is what i was doing.
[05:06] <underscore_> I just wanted to say thanks for the help.
[05:06] <sklav> k
[05:06] <underscore_> Sorry for being a pest.
[05:06] <underscore_> lol.
[05:06] <Steil> lysis: You'll just have to try them and try I guess...you could build them yourself if you know how
[05:06] <_jason> underscore_: that's what this channel is here for
[05:07] <lysis> Steil, not a clue! =)
[05:07] <underscore_> Yeah, but I know you guys get a ton of questions.
[05:07] <underscore_> Especially repetitive ones.
[05:07] <underscore_> Thanks for the help, I really appreciate it.
[05:07] <regeya> Steil, I even own a license to TurboPrint, which gives an option to print direct to CD face, and even when I specify CD, I get nothin'
[05:07] <lysis> underscore_, for linux?
[05:07] <dooglus> stevenj: you can run dapper, right?  enough to run apt-get and get new packages?
[05:07] <factotum> if i open an .ico image in gimp and save it as a .png, can i use it as an icon in gnome?
[05:07] <underscore_> lysis - What else would the question be for?
[05:07] <underscore_> :D
[05:08] <Steil> lysis: then I'd recommend you wait and see if theres a backport or if someone else has released debs
[05:08] <meng> null + dooglus: thanks alot for the help, mplayer would work, but missing w32codecs only
[05:08] <stevenj> dooglus, because I do a sudo apt-get update and it gives me all this "stuff" about cannot find the repos and I even took the 'us' out in the sources.list
[05:08] <regeya> I went through much hell with this printer at christmas time.
[05:08] <Steil> regeya: it's dependant on print driver, not on the program
[05:08] <lysis> underscore_, where can i get this turboprint.
[05:08] <underscore_> You're asking the wrong guy.
[05:08] <dooglus> stevenj: did you see the sources.list I pasted earlier?
[05:08] <haasteem> sklav: what about the DHCP server? when i tried to do ifup eth0, it said it couldn't find dhcpoffers or something like that
[05:08] <keverets> ah, the gui network manager sucks ass.  Modifying /etc/network/interfaces fixed my problem (it was putting eth0 as the hotpluggable interface, which doesn't exist, and the "auto wlan0" came after the iface, which I suspect is malformed.
[05:08] <null> meng, well, you could try extracting that all-2005...tar.bz2 in /usr/lib/win32
[05:08] <stevenj> dooglus, I did not, but I would much like to have it
[05:08] <Steil> regeya: Do you have an Epson printer?
[05:08] <null> meng, it could work
[05:09] <regeya> lysis, I brought it up, so here goes.  Google would get you there easily, btw; it's the first search result.  http://www.turboprint.de/english.html
[05:09] <sklav> haasteem, pppoe doesnt work threw dhcp directly
[05:09] <null> i think its got a subdir inside that tar.bz2.. you'll want to just keep all the files in /usr/lib/win32
[05:09] <sklav> it uses a kernel driver or a user space driver
[05:09] <dooglus> stevenj: I use this: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7299
[05:09] <regeya> Steil, an Epson Stylus Photo R800
[05:09] <Steil> ahh
[05:09] <dooglus> stevenj: you can comment out the deb-src lines if you don't use source packages
[05:09] <Steil> regeya: you get it working eventually?
[05:09] <stevenj> dooglus, thanks
[05:09] <regeya> great print quality, but a cantankerous li'l s.o.b.  yep, but with proprietary drivers (turboprint)
[05:10] <sklav> your receiving an ip threw ppp and not dhcp exactly
[05:10] <Steil> ahh
[05:10] <sklav> turboprint works very well
[05:10] <CS|Away> uh, guys, I dont know what my video card is
[05:10] <regeya> indeed it does.
[05:10] <sklav> i use them for my cannon ip5000
[05:11] <haasteem> sklav: ok... that is all new to hear for me :)
[05:11] <stevenj> dooglus, do I replace my entire sources.list with that?
[05:11] <dooglus> stevenj: yes.  keep a backup just in case, but that's all I ever use
[05:11] <perry753> hello internet!
[05:11] <nemik> hello, i am installing a second hard drive (brand new). i just tried to make a primary ext3 partition on it with gparted and it is just stuck. does this take a while?
[05:11] <sklav> haasteem, dhcp is being used yes but pppoe requires authentication first
[05:11] <meng> dooglus: mplayer has issues with alsa output
[05:11] <sklav> which is what ppp does
[05:11] <sklav> no dhcp till you authenticate
[05:12] <stevenj> dooglus, Oh I see...you just have everything on one line
[05:12] <dooglus> meng: I use "ao=oss" in my ~/.mplayer/config
[05:12] <haasteem> sklav: ok
[05:12] <sklav> would be nice if manufactures supported turboprint
[05:12] <dooglus> stevenj: I don't see any reason not to put it all on one line.  it makes it much clearer
[05:12] <sklav> then we users would have to pay for drivers that we should have had
[05:12] <nemik> should making a partition in gparted take a long time? on a 320GB drive?
[05:13] <sklav> its a downside but if their listed as working they will work from my experience
[05:13] <blacks> making partitions should be damn near instant
[05:13] <blacks> making a filesystem, not more than a minute or so probably
[05:13] <null> meng, like i said earlier.. if you think its aproblem with mplayer, talk about it in #mplayer
[05:13] <stevenj> dooglus, yes
[05:13] <nemik> blacks: that's what i thought
[05:13] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ who speak spanish?? ] ] ] 
[05:13] <null> anyway, i'm going to sleep for a while now
[05:13] <haasteem> sklav: sorry that i keep on asking things... what does this mean concerning the fact that with adsl-start i have no problem, i.e. it says connected?
[05:13] <_jason> !es
[05:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:13] <regeya> !spanish
[05:13] <ubotu> I heard spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[05:13] <blacks> nemik, could be that it's scanning for bad blocks
[05:13] <regeya> !tell Blakmaller_19 about spanish
[05:13] <sklav> haasteem, do the following ifconfig eth0
[05:13] <nemik> blacks: ohhh so that will take forever then....
[05:14] <Steil> sklav: the free drivers never work well for you?
[05:14] <sklav> and see if you have an ip address
[05:14] <CSnow> hello?
[05:14] <CSnow> how do I know what video or audio card i have?
[05:14] <haasteem> sklav: i did that, and i don't have one
[05:14] <blacks> nemik, I partitioned mine manually, so I don't know what kind of funky stuff gparted does
[05:14] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ jajaj ] ] ] 
[05:14] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ yes ] ] ] 
[05:14] <regeya> Blakmaller_19, what's with the brackets
[05:14] <sklav> haasteem, in your /var/log/messages you will see something like time out waiting for pado packets
[05:14] <nemik> blacks: well it seems to be done now...yes i should done it manually too!
[05:15] <null> must be his nick completion
[05:15] <haasteem> sklav: for ppp and lo it gives ip addresses
[05:15] <null> god.. you guys with crazy nick completions
[05:15] <tonyyarusso> !ati
[05:15] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:15] <regeya> (I like (to think (of (parens (of (being (my friends)))))))
[05:15] <sklav> haasteem, did you specify ppp0 to be your default gateway?
[05:15] <regeya> whoops nick completion...yeah, that's it.
[05:15] <null> regeya, go away to #lisp
[05:15] <regeya> I don't have to listen to you, you don't exist
[05:16] <null> sure i do.
[05:16] <null> see my messages?
[05:16] <regeya> you're just undefined
[05:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> now now, stop fighting.
[05:16] <haasteem> sklav: i don't know... :(
[05:16] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ who?? ] ] ] 
[05:16] <Knelix> Guys, I need to get ndiswrapper installed on a laptop for a friend...
[05:16] <regeya> lol
[05:16] <null> not really..
[05:16] <regeya> Stop it Blakmaller_19
[05:16] <null> blacks, you just segfaulted
[05:16] <sklav> haasteem, try the pppoeconf from ubuntu
[05:16] <null> too bad
[05:16] <sklav> and see if it makes a difference
[05:16] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ ?? ] ] ] 
[05:16] <haasteem> sklav: ok
[05:16] <Knelix> I'm looking at the instructions, but they seem a little complex for me...
[05:17] <null> Blakmaller_19, stop the brackets!!
[05:17] <blacks> no I'm just experiencing undefined operation
[05:17] <blacks> heheh
[05:17] <regeya> I'm assuming that you have a script that adds brackets to everything you say, Blakmaller_19.  Please stop.
[05:17] <regeya> cease and desist.
[05:17] <haasteem> sklav: what are those pado packets by the way?
[05:17] <sklav> haasteem, those usually mean there is an issue communicating with your telco
[05:18] <sklav> telco = ISP
[05:18] <Steil> heh I want a macbook :S
[05:18] <sergio_> hello
[05:18] <sergio_> i am problems installing a wireless card
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> I have an ATI video card, lspci reports "ATI Technologies Inc: Unknown device 5460".  When I run screensavers with the "show framerate" option checked to see what mine is, it's only about 10.  Is this normal?
[05:18] <rocketman327> so I'm trying to configure a kernel and I run "make xconfig" and it tells me that it can't find the command gcc-3.4 but I have gcc-4.0 installed so I'm confused, any ideas?
[05:18] <CanYouHelpMePlz> you are problems, sounds shitty.
[05:18] <sklav> tonyyarusso, 10 fps is not normal
[05:19] <rocketman327> tonyyarusso: depends on the card?
[05:19] <sklav> are you using the ati drivers?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Anything I can do about it?
[05:19] <Blakmaller_19> [[[ ?? ] ] ] 
[05:19] <regeya> Steil, I don't blame you.  I'm excited about the Mactel boxes.  I wonder...does x86 Ubuntu install on an intel imac?
[05:19] <sklav> install fglx or something like that
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> sklav, I'm using the default from install.
[05:19] <Steil> no idea
[05:19] <null> Blakmaller_19, spare us the brackets. just don;t speak ;)
[05:19] <sklav> its equivalent to the nvidia-glx
[05:19] <Steil> I wouldn't run linux on a mac
[05:19] <dooglus> stevenj: any luck with my sources.list?  did it help?
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> sklav, The wiki page for that said it's for 9xxx only though.
[05:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rocketman327: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[05:19] <sergio_> how do u use ndiswrapper?
[05:19] <pradeeper> Hi guys, I would like to contribute to ubuntu with some cool wallpapers and with some arts, how can I do that? and what are the conditions?
[05:19] <haasteem> sklav: ok, thanks for now... i will go see if i can get it solved
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> sklav, I'm guessing from my lspci output that's not mine.
[05:20] <Blakmaller_19> jijiji
[05:20] <sklav> tonyyarusso, which card?
[05:20] <nalioth> CanYouHelpMePlz: please watch your choice of words in here, please
[05:20] <stevenj> dooglus, I am at my apartment (not at my house) so I only have one box to play with and so I am about to retry
[05:20] <null> wow.. finally you learn Blakmaller_19 :)
[05:20] <sklav> no Problem haasteem
[05:20] <Blakmaller_19> jajaj
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> sklav, All I know is the output above.  Can you help me find out more?
[05:20] <mcdenyer> how much better is cedega to wine?
[05:20] <sklav> hope thta it helps
[05:20] <Blakmaller_19> sorry
[05:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> nalioth: censorship is wrong.
[05:20] <null> no worries.
[05:20] <Blakmaller_19> i'm chilean
[05:20] <rocketman327> CanYouHelpMePlz: wow, I feel dumb... but why would I want to downgrade?  oh yea, gcc-4.0 is bad
[05:20] <sklav> tonyyarusso, which video card did you buy for example 9600?
[05:20] <nalioth> CanYouHelpMePlz: there is no need for vulgarities in here.
[05:21] <dooglus> stevenj: you can use irssi from a virtual console...
[05:21] <sklav> x800 ?
[05:21] <Jeffi> hi
[05:21] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rocketman327: it's not a downgrade, you can have 3.4 and 4.0 at the same time, some programs use 3.4 obviousl :-)
[05:21] <dooglus> pradeeper: the art team's page is here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArtworkTeam
[05:21] <Jeffi> can anyone help me?
[05:21] <rocketman327> CanYouHelpMePlz: yea, I forgot about that switch.
[05:21] <pradeeper> thanks dooglus
[05:21] <Jeffi> i'm trying to set up the root password
[05:21] <Jeffi> but failing miserably
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> sklav, I didn't buy the card separately, just using what came with the computer.  I might be able to find out what that should be (sometimes that parts lists don't say all that much).  I'll look though...
[05:22] <_jason> Jeffi: you shouldn
[05:22] <stevenj> dooglus, nice
[05:22] <Steil> CanYouHelpMePlz: There's a difference between censorship and asking someone politely to stop using language found to be offensive.
[05:22] <Blakmaller_19> i can order cd's of ubuntu??
[05:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffi about root
[05:22] <dooglus> Jeffi: all you need to do is "sudo passwd"
[05:22] <meng> dooglus: what would i need to see .mkv subtitles?
[05:22] <Jeffi> where
[05:22] <tritium> Jeffi: see the URL I had ubotu send you
[05:22] <null> Blakmaller_19, sure.. shipit.ubuntu
[05:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rocketman327: did that command work for you? ;-)
[05:22] <_jason> Jeffi: do not do that until you read the danger in the link ubotu sent you
[05:22] <dooglus> meng: I never heard of .mkv
[05:22] <meng> matroska format
[05:22] <rocketman327> CanYouHelpMePlz: yes it did, thanks
[05:22] <sklav> tonyyarusso, the reason why im asking is sometimes the chipset might be reported inproperly
[05:22] <Jeffi> where?
[05:22] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Blakmaller_19: https://shipit.ubuntu.com/
[05:22] <_jason> Jeffi: ubotu sent you a priv msg
[05:22] <dooglus> Jeffi: in a terminal.  but there's no need - just use 'sudo' to get root access
[05:22] <nalioth> Jeffi: look at your private messages
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> sklav, I see.
[05:23] <rocketman327> well I'm off to go configure a kernel.. peace y'all
[05:23] <Blakmaller_19> oh thanks
[05:23] <lysis> hey guys,  i'm reading about installing the guten drivers for my printer.  Check the debian/control file for
[05:23] <lysis> required packages need to compile in debian.
[05:23] <lysis> where can i check this control file/  i want to make sure i have all the dependencies i need.
[05:23] <sklav> im off to bed myself also
[05:23] <sklav> i gotta be up for 5:00am
[05:23] <sklav> tonyyarusso, try the ati drivers
[05:24] <sklav> is a recommendation
[05:24] <sklav> most of the recent chipset use it
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Okay, will do.  (It's a new computer, so that sounds good.)
[05:24] <meng> dooglus: mplayer also has alsa output issues, any idea?
[05:25] <Blakmaller_19> is necessary who i write the postcode??
[05:25] <Steil> Anyone else notice the proliferation of very questionable advice on the forums? (e.g. "You must set a root password in order to export environment variables to compile kernel modules")
[05:25] <nalioth> meng: http://www.bunkus.org/videotools/mkvtoolnix/downloads.html
[05:25] <Blakmaller_19> is necessary who i write the postcode??
[05:25] <null> Blakmaller_19, i think so.
[05:25] <sklav> tonyyarusso, most cards are supported by the new driver .. or so im told
[05:25] <yyw> haha
[05:26] <yyw> harhar
[05:26] <null> meng, why do you keep saying mplayer has alsa issues here?
[05:26] <null> #mplayer can help you better and more importantly they _want_ to hear of these issues
[05:26] <meng> mine is from the ubuntu repos
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> sklav, "64MB ATI Radeon X300"
[05:26] <null> meng, so? did they kick you out saying you can;t speak about it?
[05:26] <sklav> tonyyarusso, i think you need the ati drivers ;)
[05:27] <null> just tell them its not compiled by yourself. and are having this problem..
[05:27] <mcdenyer> hey to make a ubuntu boots disc i just copy the iso to a cd right?
[05:27] <meng> null: good point in a way
[05:27] <null> and is it a problem with the packaging?
[05:27] <nalioth> mcdenyer: burn iso as image
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Okay.  Off I go to get them!
[05:27] <yyw> hello everyone!
[05:27] <sklav> i be back tommorow
[05:27] <sklav> hopefully u will be up and running
[05:27] <sklav> ;)
[05:27] <mcdenyer> so when looking at the cd it shows up as just one .iso file right?
[05:27] <NobodyHere> hey all, I'm having a major problem with postfix, and I'm fairly certain it is ubuntu-specific.  Can anyone help?
[05:27] <Blakmaller_19> i'm of chile and i don't know who is my postcode
[05:27] <sklav> tonyyarusso, also the ati site has links for which drivers work with their cards
[05:28] <sklav> and there are linux references
[05:28] <mcdenyer> nalioth so when looking at the cd it shows up as just one .iso file right?
[05:28] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: que idioma?
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> sklav, Good to know.  I'll look there too.
[05:28] <null> Blakmaller_19, is there a postoffice nearby? or if not nearby do you have thephone number of the office?
[05:28] <Kr0ntab> sup folks...
[05:28] <sklav> most point to the fglx
[05:28] <dooglus> meng: I use oss, not alsa, for mplayer sound.
[05:28] <nalioth> mcdenyer: your cd burning soft should recognize the iso imaga and burn it as such (burn as image)
[05:28] <tristanmike> How can I test my Frames Per Second? When I initalize glxgears I don't a FPS output, is there any other way?
[05:28] <meng> null: mplayer seems a little harsh about people packing stuff
[05:28] <sklav> i use alsa for mplayer
[05:28] <cdubya> NobodyHere, what's the problem you're having?
[05:28] <null> you can try calling them up and asking for the postcode
[05:29] <tristanmike> question: When I run Screensaver Preferences, I get an XScreensaver Warning: The XScreenSaver daemon doesn't seem to be running on display ":0.:". Launch it now?  Can someone explain what this means please?
[05:29] <mcdenyer> nalioth yeah ok ty
[05:29] <sklav> ok sleep i sgood and me want some
[05:29] <null> meng, yes. which is why i said tell them its not compiled by yourself. its theres anything you can do in the situation other than compiling yourself.
[05:29] <sklav> later all
[05:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell meng about mplayer
[05:29] <null> nalioth, hes trying to get mplayer working on dapper iirc
[05:29] <NobodyHere> cdubya: postfix is not following the transport table.  The table is listed in main.cf, postfix notices when the transport.db file changes, but ignores it and keeps trying to deliver mail directly.  It will then mysteriously start working, then stop working
[05:29] <nalioth> meng, mplayer is one application that can really stand being compiled by you.
[05:30] <null> yes!
[05:30] <null> i will always compile mplayer by hand :)
[05:30] <sklav> i use xine and to be honest its just as good
[05:30] <sklav> as mplayer
[05:30] <Kr0ntab> tristanmike: it simply means that the Xscreensaver service is not running.  display :0 is yer current X window process. Just agree to that you can run a screensaver.
[05:30] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth  ----> espaol
[05:30] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth  ----> castellano
[05:30] <meng> sklav: i would use xine, but it lacks support for .mkv
[05:31] <sklav> i never heard of .mkv
[05:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Blakmaller_19 about es
[05:31] <nalioth> sklav: it's matroska video format
[05:31] <tristanmike> Kr0ntab, ok, thanx, do you know what may have cause it?
[05:31] <null> sklav, which cave have you been living in?
[05:31] <bur[n] er_> totem-xine plays .mkv for me
[05:31] <nalioth> meng: you can use vlc to play mkv files
[05:31] <null> meng, just get vlc
[05:31] <Sohmc> hello!!  I just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.
[05:31] <sklav> im ina  a cave? hehe
[05:31] <meng> for ubuntu, VLC crashes down hard playing it
[05:32] <Kr0ntab> tristanmike: its not an error.... just letting you make the choice to whether or not you want to enable it.
[05:32] <bur[n] er_> meng: tried totem-xine w/w32codecs package?
[05:32] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth ??
[05:32] <meng> just click to play and it just crashes all the time
[05:32] <Kr0ntab> tristanmike: justa  first time thing
[05:32] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: look to your private messages
[05:32] <null> meng, really, then just compile mplayer. don;t tell me now that you don;t have experience compiling and installing packages on your own
[05:32] <sklav> meng im using the w32codecs
[05:32] <meng> totem xine is okay
[05:32] <tristanmike> Kr0ntab, oh, cool then, thanx a bunch
[05:32] <Kr0ntab> np
[05:32] <tristanmike> how do I get the "greyed out" screen savers?
[05:33] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth : where??
[05:33] <meng> null: my previous gig was for RH and speficially gaim only
[05:33] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth : where i see that??
[05:33] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: do you have any new tabs or windows from ubotu ?
[05:33] <null> previous gig?
[05:33] <null> meng, i don;t know what you are referring to with 'gig'
[05:33] <meng> sry, experience
[05:33] <phos-phoros> linux is going on tour?
[05:33] <nalioth> null: gig = job
[05:33] <dooglus> "Matroska is an open standards project. This means for personal use it is absolutely free to use".  Wouldn't it be better to use a professional standard like .wmv?  You get what you pay for after all.
[05:33] <Sohmc> sorry to ask again ---  I could use some help on a new install
[05:33] <meng> i managed to compile gaim easily as compared to mplayer, which is harder to do
[05:33] <null> meng, why exactly are you running dapper?
[05:34] <null> no.. mplayer is just as easy
[05:34] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth : tabs??
[05:34] <meng> null: Firefox is riddiculously slow on breezy
[05:34] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: what irc client do you use?
[05:34] <Kr0ntab> firefox 1.5 is sooo much faster
[05:34] <Blakmaller_19> nalioth : totex
[05:34] <meng> 1.0.7 for ubuntu is slow compared to even the same thing for windows
[05:35] <blacks> its very easy to install 1.5 on breezy
[05:35] <null> meng, you don't have to tell me. i know firefox is ridiculously slow on _all_ damn platforms and oses
[05:35] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: no seh totex, mira ubotu
[05:35] <nalioth> !es
[05:35] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:35] <bur[n] er_> null: it's fast on windows for me
[05:35] <meng> no, ubuntu's 1.0.7 is just nonsense
[05:35] <null> bah..
[05:35] <Sohmc> I just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.
[05:35] <bur[n] er_> dapper's 1.4.99 is ok
[05:35] <Kr0ntab> to install firefox 1.5....   heres one of the many how-to's    http://lxer.com/module/newswire/lf/view/45917/
[05:35] <koharski> anyone using dapper?
[05:35] <Blakmaller_19> totex is a script
[05:36] <meng> i have more extensions on windows and it would run ubuntu's in circles
[05:36] <koharski> I can't get mozilla-psm to install on firefox
[05:36] <bur[n] er_> koharski: sure, que pasa?
[05:36] <nalioth> Blakmaller_19: google will tell you your postal code
[05:36] <Jeffi> ok im still having trouble pasting objects
[05:36] <Blakmaller_19> oh thanks
[05:36] <null> nalioth, it will?
[05:36] <nalioth> koharski: what are you doing and what errors are you getting?
[05:36] <Jeffi> i tell it to copy the files
[05:36] <nalioth> null: it tell me mine
[05:36] <Jeffi> then i go to paste and its not highlighted
[05:37] <NobodyHere> well this is just great, third time I've tried to get help with my postfix problems and nobody knows or gives a shit.
[05:37] <Jeffi> so i cant
[05:37] <null> and you are in the US ?
[05:37] <bur[n] er_> koharski: no idea, I don't use that
[05:37] <tonyyarusso> Woah.  The instructions for changing my video card driver actually say to reboot.  I think that's the first time I've seen a wiki page say that.
[05:37] <nalioth> NobodyHere: do you want us to make up stuff to help you?
[05:37] <dooglus> koharski: mozilla-psm is broken in dapper at the moment
[05:37] <koharski> yeah
[05:37] <Jeffi> Can anyone help me?
[05:37] <Knelix> Hey, I can't even install ndiswrapper.
[05:37] <koharski> is there any way to be able to acess sites like gmail?
[05:38] <Knelix> I try the make command and get command not found.
[05:38] <nalioth> null: join #ubuntu-offtopic please
[05:38] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: permissions problem
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> koharski, I think I've heard yes, but don't know it.
[05:38] <nalioth> Knelix: install build-essential
[05:38] <underscore_> Man.
[05:38] <Jeffi> well i'm logged into sudo i guess
[05:38] <Jeffi> w/e that means
[05:38] <bur[n] er_> koharski: i can
[05:38] <underscore_> My mom wants to install ubuntu now.
[05:38] <koharski> hmm.... thanks anyway
[05:38] <koharski> your mom?
[05:38] <underscore_> She likes the games. That's the only reason she wants to install.
[05:38] <Knelix> nalioth: Quick way to do this?
[05:38] <underscore_> Yeah.
[05:38] <koharski> haha
[05:38] <bur[n] er_> koharski: sudo apt-get install firefox  ??
[05:38] <dooglus> koharski: you can access sites like gmail.com.  you'll need a web browser.
[05:38] <scanwinder> does anyone know if there's a way to get sound in the mozilla flash plugin working with alsa?
[05:38] <underscore_> Plus she likes the workspaces.
[05:38] <nalioth> Knelix: in terminal, type sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:39] <dooglus> underscore_: that's the same reason my Mum installed ubuntu
[05:39] <koharski> doogleus, I know THAT, I have deer park. I can't get to any secure sutes cause I don't have mozilla-psm
[05:39] <Sohmc> Hello, could I get some help mounting my hard drive?
[05:39] <underscore_> hm
[05:39] <bur[n] er_> koharski: u don't need mozilla-psm... i dont' have it, i can access gmail
[05:39] <koharski> :o
[05:39] <_jason> scanwinder: use aoss to start firefox: 'aoss firefox' (you need to install alsa-aoss)
[05:39] <dooglus> koharski: you don't need mozilla-<anything> to access secure sites with deer park
[05:40] <koharski> hmm
[05:40] <dt-> Hey all I have a question
[05:40] <dooglus> koharski: what bur[n] er_ said.
[05:40] <bur[n] er_> koharski: maybe you have ssl sites firewalled?  try with konqueror?  I would just apt-get install firefox and be done with it
[05:40] <underscore_> Intriguing.
[05:40] <Sohmc> hello??
[05:40] <dt-> since I am new to Linux/etc
[05:40] <koharski> maybe I should update
[05:40] <koharski> brb
[05:40] <dt-> anyone? >_>
[05:40] <Jeffi> Anyone have a suggestion on how to make it so i can copy/paste stuff
[05:41] <bur[n] er_> koharski: good luck
[05:41] <bur[n] er_> dt-: we're waiting for the freakin question
[05:41] <scanwinder> _jason: im using opera and, there's no alsa-aoss in the repository,theres a alsa-oss tho
[05:41] <dooglus> koharski: try making a new firefox profile - maybe you're blocking some cookies in the current one?
[05:41] <dt-> lol
[05:41] <intelikey>  /sbin/start-stop-daemon == empty file  ???
[05:41] <koharski> I usually update weekly
[05:41] <sampan> dt, it's better to just ASK your question, instead of asking to ask it ;)
[05:41] <underscore_> Question.
[05:41] <_jason> Jeffi: highlight what you want to copy, and then paste by middle clicking
[05:41] <dt-> so ubuntu contains the Gnome
[05:41] <koharski> I guess it should be daily with dapper :P
[05:41] <underscore_> BitchX, or XChat?
[05:41] <_jason> scanwinder: yeah, sorry that's the correct nama
[05:41] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: fix your permissions, you can't read the files you're trying to copy or you're trying to paste in a folder you don't have write priveleges to
[05:41] <dt-> meaning just the image would cover everything?
[05:41] <Sohmc> I just installed ubuntu for the first time...I'm having troubling loading an exisiting ext3 formatted harddrive I had prior to installation.  Now it doesn't load.  I says I have a bad magic supernumber.
[05:41] <Jeffi> well
[05:41] <dooglus> dt-: there are often updates several times an hour at the moment...
[05:41] <bur[n] er_> koharski: worked as long as I can remember ;)
[05:42] <Jeffi> its /usr/local/games impossible to get permissions on>?
[05:42] <dooglus> koharski: there are often updates several times an hour at the moment...
[05:42] <scanwinder> _jason: ok, do you know how to get it to work in opera? i have alsa-oss installed and dosent work
[05:42] <bur[n] er_> Sohmc: won't load?  as in won't install files to it? or won't boot after you've done an install?
[05:42] <dt-> dooglus what does that mean?
[05:42] <dooglus> dt-: sorry, I addressed you by mistake.
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> Well, here goes nothing...
[05:42] <Knelix> nalioth: It's giving me errors... saying it can't find the server path for some components.
[05:42] <underscore_> Time to google.
[05:42] <underscore_> :D
[05:42] <_jason> scanwinder: you ran opera by doing 'aoss opera'?  (I don't use opera but I think this should work)
[05:42] <Sohmc> bur[n] er_, I'm sorry...I meant won't mount
[05:42] <Jeffi> is /usr/local/games impossible to get permissions on>?
[05:43] <dooglus> dt-: ubuntu contains GNOME, yes.  and kubuntu contains KDE.  choose which you want.
[05:43] <intelikey> would one of you gents care to have a look at your /sbin/start-stop-daemon and see if it actually does anything please ?
[05:43] <_jason> Jeffi: that's owned by root
[05:43] <scanwinder> _jason: oh rite no i just opened it normally...ok thanks
[05:43] <Sohmc> I have two hard drives: /dev/hda /dev/hdb
[05:43] <bur[n] er_> Sohmc: aww... well, got me ;) sorry man... ext2fs maybe?
[05:43] <Jeffi> is there anyway i can get acess to it?
[05:43] <_jason> Jeffi: with sudo, but what are you trying to do?
[05:43] <Sohmc> ubuntu is installed and working on /dev/hda
[05:43] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: heard of sudo?
[05:43] <Jeffi> trying to move files to that directory
[05:43] <Jeffi> Yes
[05:43] <dooglus> underscore_: BitchX or XChat?  what's wrong with you?  irssi is the answer :)
[05:43] <Sohmc> well, I don't want to format /dev/hdb...it has data on it
[05:43] <Jeffi> i did the command that site told me to do
[05:44] <Jeffi> but it didnt do anything
[05:44] <_jason> Jeffi: what command was that
[05:44] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: use sudo... if you don't know what I mean by that, don't move files to /usr/local/games and just put them in your ~/
[05:44] <underscore_> I liked irssi when I used it because I broke my xorg.conf
[05:44] <underscore_> rofl
[05:44] <Jeffi> whats my ~/
[05:44] <dt-> also, if I want to install the non-live version, do I need to partition my HD?
[05:44] <underscore_> eh
[05:44] <sampan> irssi is what bitchx -wishes- it could be
[05:44] <Jeffi> i went to applications
[05:44] <_jason> Jeffi: /home/username/
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Jeffi about cli
[05:44] <Jeffi> and systemtools
[05:44] <dooglus> underscore_: it works inside X too :)
[05:44] <dt-> it's already divided into C, D, E, F though
[05:44] <underscore_> .. ~/ = your home/username
[05:44] <mcdenyer> nalioth,  it didnt work
[05:44] <dt-> currently has windows
[05:44] <intelikey> Sohmc do a 'fdisk -l /dev/hdb '   and see what partition type and number/s  it returns
[05:44] <bur[n] er_> underscore_: irssi is nice to put in a screen you can reattach should your gnome or kde or whatever need to be restarted ;)
[05:44] <mcdenyer> nalioth i have the .iso on a disc
[05:44] <Jeffi> and typed in sudo
[05:44] <Jeffi> and it asked me the password
[05:45] <Jeffi> and i typed it in
[05:45] <mcdenyer> nalitoh and it didnt boot from it
[05:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about verify
[05:45] <Jeffi> it didnt do anything
[05:45] <underscore_> bur[n] er_: How would I do that? :D
[05:45] <_jason> Jeffi: you need to reread the wiki page
[05:45] <dooglus> dt-: the install disk will take care of repartitioning for you
[05:45] <bur[n] er_> ubotu: tell Jeffi about sudo
[05:45] <underscore_> I'm going to idle in here.
[05:45] <nalioth> mcdenyer: your iso has to be interepreted by the software and placed on a cd-r
[05:45] <ubuntu> cd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?
[05:45] <underscore_> And read.
[05:45] <Jeffi> ..
[05:45] <null> is thunderbird 1.5 available for breezy ?
[05:45] <Jeffi> please stop sending me that page
[05:45] <nalioth> mcdenyer: a file.iso will not boot as a file.iso
[05:45] <dooglus> dt-: it will offer to wipe windows, or resize an existing windows partition
[05:45] <Jeffi> it doesnt help
[05:45] <underscore_> Nine times out of ten, you'll answer a question I'll more than likely ask.
[05:45] <seth|lappy> null, no
[05:45] <Sohmc> intelikey, it says it doesn't contain a partition table
[05:45] <Jeffi> ok
[05:45] <nalioth> Jeffi: it DOES help if you read it
[05:45] <dt-> dooglus: ah, and it won't erase the previous data right?
[05:45] <dt-> oh ok
[05:45] <Jeffi> I read it
[05:45] <bur[n] er_> underscore_: man screen, or apt-get install screen && man screen
[05:46] <null> sethk, any idea when it will be available ?
[05:46] <dt-> thanks dooglus
[05:46] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: read it
[05:46] <Jeffi> Want to help me decipher some of it?
[05:46] <nalioth> bur[n] er_: screen is default in *buntu
[05:46] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: "sudo programtolaunch"
[05:46] <Jeffi> cause most of it was gibberish
[05:46] <intelikey> Sohmc and you are sure it is on ide0 slave ?
[05:46] <meng> thanks a ton to ya all
[05:46] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: for example, "sudo nautilus"
[05:46] <sampan> dt-  make sure you DEFRAG your windows before you install -- i broke a windows install by forgetting to do so once and some key files got overwritten
[05:46] <dooglus> dt-: it's a good idea to back up first, 'cos resizing a partition is never 100% safe, but I've never had problems doing it (and I've done it TWICE!)
[05:46] <underscore_> Alright..
[05:46] <intelikey> try /dev/hdc Sohmc
[05:46] <underscore_> I have screen..
[05:46] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: it's not, and if you don't understand it, I'd say re-read it
[05:46] <Mabus06> My entire system has been acting goofy lately, what I'd like to do is reformat the hard drive that has ubuntu on it as ntfs for my windows primary master drive, and then later install ubuntu again. How do I reformat the drive for Windows to use?
[05:46] <Jeffi> ok
[05:46] <nalioth> bur[n] er_: no no no dont do that
[05:46] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: neato ;)
[05:46] <Jeffi> tell me this
[05:46] <mcdenyer> nalioth, i guess i ll just update then
[05:46] <Jeffi> how do i get to a folder on my desktop
[05:46] <dt-> oh ok
[05:46] <nalioth> !gksudo
[05:46] <ubotu> methinks gksudo is Use gksudo to run gtk applications with root priveleges. Using sudo to start gtk apps can scramble your user account permissions.
[05:46] <dt-> thanks all
[05:46] <Sohmc> intelikey, yes.../dev/hdb was working fine right before I installed ubuntu
[05:46] <dt-> night
[05:47] <siriuskr> hey does anyone know when KDE 4 is being released ?
[05:47] <sampan> dt-  good luck! :)
[05:47] <nalioth> bur[n] er_: running nautilus using sudo will cause trouble
[05:47] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: what else do I tell the guy? ;)  he won't read
[05:47] <nalioth> bur[n] er_: use gksudo
[05:47] <underscore_> I'm going to partition, and dual boot win3.1
[05:47] <underscore_> :$
[05:47] <Jeffi> say the folder name is "hello" on my desktop
[05:47] <underscore_> And taunt you with my windows-user coolness.
[05:47] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: wtf are you talking about?  they're the same thing... run xterm... run sudo, alls well
[05:47] <Jeffi> in terminal how do i get to that folder
[05:47] <dooglus> does anyone believe ubotu's !gksudo warning about "sudo scrambles you account permissions"?
[05:47] <Sohmc> intelikey, /dev/hdb reports back with cylinders and block and stuff...so the drive is recignized
[05:47] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: cd ~/Desktop/hello
[05:47] <intelikey> Sohmc any chance you let it blank the disk durring partitioning
[05:47] <Jeffi> thank you
[05:48] <bur[n] er_> !terminal
[05:48] <nalioth> bur[n] er_: they are not the same. running nautilus (or lots of gtk apps) with sudo cause permissioning problems in userland
[05:48] <underscore_> !codec
[05:48] <ubotu> underscore_: Are you smoking crack?
[05:48] <Sohmc> intelikey, if I did, it wasn't intentional
[05:48] <underscore_> :/
[05:48] <siriuskr> ##When trying to run a exe installer in wine i get a error saying cant find c:/windows/system32/FILE.dll  Anyone know how to fix this ?
[05:48] <bur[n] er_> nalioth: oh really... my bad ;)
[05:48] <underscore_> Hm.
[05:48] <Sohmc> intelikey, is there is anyway that I can find out for sure?
[05:48] <underscore_> I need to see how much drive space I have.
[05:48] <mark__> crimsun, hey you there?
[05:48] <Jeffi> it says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory
[05:48] <Mabus06> ubotu, tell underscore_ about restricted
[05:48] <dooglus> nalioth: why do you say that?
[05:48] <_jason> siriuskr: does the file exist?
[05:48] <Mabus06> My entire system has been acting goofy lately, what I'd like to do is reformat the hard drive that has ubuntu on it as ntfs for my windows primary master drive, and then later install ubuntu again. How do I reformat the drive for Windows to use?
[05:48] <intelikey> Sohmc checkdisk    do a google for it.
[05:49] <siriuskr> _jason there is no c:/windows folder
[05:49] <nalioth> dooglus: because running nautilus using sudo converts some userland files to root files
[05:49] <geneo93> Sohmc:  df
[05:49] <bur[n] er_> siriuskr: cp smb://windowsmachine/sharedcdrive/windows/system32/FILE.dll ~/.wine/driveC/windows/system32/FILE.dll  <--interpret it, it's not a literal command
[05:49] <sampan> dooglus, it's true -- i started kate first time with sudo (instead of kdesu) and the perms were messed up and i couldn't start it as user until i fixed it.
[05:49] <Jeffi> it says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory
[05:49] <meng> oh, i needed mplayer for browser streaming also
[05:49] <bur[n] er_> siriuskr: ~/.wine/ has the c:\ folder
[05:49] <meng> totem's plugin is rather bad
[05:49] <underscore_> Holy batballs.
[05:49] <underscore_> Lots of free space.
[05:49] <intelikey> Sohmc it's fairly new.  still beta but works pretty well.   runs in linux or ms
[05:49] <siriuskr> o
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> Sweet.  My FPS are 80-120 now.
[05:49] <siriuskr> thanks
[05:50] <Jeffi> it says bash: cd: /home/server/desktop/hello: No such file or directory
[05:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell meng about replacetotem
[05:50] <Sohmc> geneo93, when I do a df on /dev/hdb, it only gives me /dev, not the specific hard drive
[05:50] <underscore_> You'd need to mkdir, Jeffi. If you're trying to cd to it.
[05:50] <Blakmaller_19> how much delay in arrive my order??
[05:50] <underscore_> If it doesn't exist, create the directory.
[05:50] <underscore_> :'/
[05:50] <Jeffi> well the directory is there
[05:50] <underscore_> Hm.
[05:50] <Jeffi> with files in it
[05:50] <Sohmc> intelikey, what is fairly new?  checkdisk?
[05:50] <Jeffi> but nothing
[05:50] <meng> i am happy using moz mplayer, it works at least
[05:50] <mark__> can someone with breezy paste their repository config file in pastebin for me :)
[05:50] <underscore_> Well
[05:50] <intelikey> Sohmc iirc checkdisk is on freshmeet.
[05:50] <underscore_> Your desktop has a capital D right?
[05:50] <intelikey> Sohmc checkdisk    do a google for it.
[05:50] <underscore_> Like..
[05:51] <underscore_> Desktop?
[05:51] <ubuntu> cd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?
[05:51] <_jason> ubotu: tell mark about sources
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell mark__ about sources
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> So before that reboot, I had the system up for just over three days, and it seemed to be starting to lag with certain tasks.  (Console switching, the shutdown when I did it,...)  Any ideas why / a fix?
[05:51] <underscore_> If so, cd /home/server/Desktop/hello
[05:51] <Jeffi> yes
[05:51] <geneo93> [kane@localhost ~] $ df
[05:51] <geneo93> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[05:51] <geneo93> /dev/sdb1             5.5G  3.2G  2.3G  59% /
[05:51] <Jeffi> i tried that
[05:51] <underscore_> Odd.
[05:51] <mark__> nalioth, thanks
[05:51] <underscore_> IT should be working.
[05:51] <nalioth> geneo93: please use a pastebin
[05:51] <underscore_> It*
[05:51] <Jeffi> doesnt work
[05:51] <geneo93> df should work just fine
[05:51] <intelikey> Sohmc it can probably recover the blanked partition table
[05:51] <Jeffi> right
[05:51] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: it's case specific... and use tab-completion
[05:51] <Jeffi> but it isnt
[05:51] <Jeffi> and 2, it cant even find Desktop
[05:52] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: follow the path with tab-completion
[05:52] <Sohmc> intelikey, I just searched freshmeat for checkdisk and didn't find anything...
[05:52] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: cd
[05:52] <Jeffi> cd ~/Desktop doesnt work either
[05:52] <underscore_> Jeffi: cd ~/Desktop/hello
[05:52] <_jason> ubotu: tell Jeffi about cli
[05:52] <underscore_> oh.
[05:52] <bur[n] er_> Jeffi: then run "ls"
[05:52] <underscore_> hm
[05:52] <Sohmc> intelikey, could it be called something else?  (Google only turned up spelling error results)
[05:52] <DonL> I'm currently trying to get a media player to work reliably for me. Haven't had much luck. MPlayer seems to work best but it crashes a lot and takes firefox with it. Must be something else
[05:52] <underscore_> I tried. Sorry, I couldn't help.
[05:52] <bur[n] er_> werd... listen to ubotu about cli Jeffi
[05:52] <Sohmc> I appreciate you all helping me...:-)
[05:52] <underscore_> :x
[05:52] <geneo93> Sohmc:  testdisk can recover partition tables
[05:52] <underscore_> Now.
[05:53] <intelikey> sorry it's testdisk Sohmc
[05:53] <intelikey> my bad
[05:53] <underscore_> I must find ways of securing my computer from l33t brute force kids.
[05:53] <Jeffi> ok it worked
[05:53] <underscore_> :\
[05:53] <bur[n] er_> can gparted help with partition rescuing?
[05:53] <geneo93> no
[05:53] <underscore_> rofl bur[n] er_.
[05:53] <niblewiz> does anyone have experience with playing 386 media files on ubuntu
[05:54] <dooglus> sampan, nalioth: would "sudo -H" be OK?  that sets HOME to be root's home, much like gksudo does
[05:54] <niblewiz> such as .mpeg, .wmv, etc
[05:54] <intelikey> you want  * testdisk-6.3-WIP.linuxstatic.tar.bz2 *   Sohmc
[05:54] <Sohmc> underscore_, kids these days are too lazy to code their own stuff...
[05:54] <nalioth> dooglus: we just recommend gksudo or kdesu depending on platform.
[05:54] <Sohmc> ;-)
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> !tell niblewiz about restrictedformats
[05:54] <underscore_> Sohmc: Yeah. My website used to get like 5,000 failed attempts per week.
[05:54] <underscore_> Kind of amusing.
[05:54] <underscore_> :|
[05:55] <Blakmaller_19> well
[05:55] <intelikey> just unpack it and run it. Sohmc
[05:55] <bur[n] er_> niblewiz: yes
[05:55] <Blakmaller_19> good bye!!
[05:55] <Sohmc> downloading it now...
[05:55] <underscore_> However, there was one kid I made mad. He then proceeded to null my ip.
[05:55] <underscore_> :\
[05:55] <niblewiz> bur[n] er...what did you  use
[05:55] <Sohmc> intelikey, I had to restart my ubuntu system
[05:55] <Jeffi> ok this is wierd
[05:55] <Blakmaller_19> good night!! everybody
[05:55] <intelikey> k
[05:55] <null> !java
[05:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:55] <null> !javadebs
[05:56] <meng> i am using crazy frog to test the browser thing
[05:56] <ubuntu> cd player isnt working when i click play it flashes to pause and then goes back to play again what do i do?
[05:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell null about msg the bot
[05:56] <Jeffi> got it!
[05:56] <Jeffi> woot
[05:56] <bur[n] er_> niblewiz: totem-xine, xine, mplayer, vlc, xfmedia, and/or kaffeine
[05:56] <meng> use kaffiene xine, it's better
[05:56] <ubuntu> ive tryed using other playes it seems that they dont have neough permissions to use the cd rom
[05:56] <intelikey> now back to my question,  does anyone have an /sbin/start-stop-daemon that actually does anything other than an echo 'fake start-stop-daemon; not actually doing anything'  ?????
[05:56] <niblewiz> bur[n] er_:hmmm ok i have i'll try those
[05:57] <DonL> bur[n] er_, what's your favourite?
[05:57] <niblewiz> bur[n] er_: already tried mplayer but for some reason it didn't work
[05:57] <intelikey> or is that all that start-stop-daemon is supposed to be ?
[05:57] <Sohmc> is ssh not installed by default on ubunto????
[05:57] <niblewiz> bur[n] er_: will try right now
[05:57] <Jeffi> blah
[05:57] <bur[n] er_> DonL: totem-xine (i'm a gnome guy... and it just works well... f for full screen, h to hide controls, up/down for volume, i love it)
[05:57] <Jeffi> what does segmentation fault mean?
[05:58] <DonL> bur[n] er_, and plugins are okay?
[05:58] <bur[n] er_> niblewiz: u need w32codecs
[05:58] <intelikey> Sohmc installed but sshd probably isn't runnint by default.
[05:58] <niblewiz> bur[n] er_:thanks...i'll try
[05:58] <bur[n] er_> DonL: plugins like what?
[05:58] <ubuntu> know one help me? :(
[05:58] <underscore_> Package gstreamer0.8-mad is not available, but is referred to by another package
[05:58] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having trouble installing extra packages from the ubuntu dvd
[05:58] <underscore_> :/
[05:58] <Sohmc> intelikey, *sigh* wow...I'm so used to fedora....
[05:58] <DonL> w32 codecs and apple
[05:58] <bur[n] er_> ubotu: tell niblewiz about w32codecs
[05:58] <P3L|C4N0> hi people
[05:58] <KeithWeisshar> the installation froze and then i got a red message installation of the package failed
[05:58] <_jason> underscore_: you need unvirse
[05:58] <Sohmc> its not in /etc/init.d
[05:58] <Sohmc> how do I start sshd?
[05:59] <_jason> underscore_: you need universe
[05:59] <speedybits> Hi everyone
[05:59] <bur[n] er_> !tell underscore_ about universe
[05:59] <ubuntu> how cna i kill the cd resource and restart it?
[05:59] <underscore_> bah
[05:59] <niblewiz> brb
[05:59] <KeithWeisshar> when I try to retry installation it doesn't respond
[05:59] <nalioth> Sohmc: install it, it will start by itself
[05:59] <bur[n] er_> cd resource?
[05:59] <intelikey> you may have to apt-get it first... it looks like only the client is default install
[05:59] <underscore_> I'm beginning to wish I would've stuck with commandline.
[05:59] <underscore_> lol
[05:59] <intelikey> you may have to apt-get it first... it looks like only the client is default install Sohmc
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> Anyone using a Thinkpad: What kind of battery life do you get?
[05:59] <bur[n] er_> underscore_: bah, you'll never go back ;)
[05:59] <siriuskr> ## Anyone know any info about KDE 4 ?
[05:59] <KeithWeisshar> i burned a dvd with nero using data verification and it verified ok
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> debconf: unable to initialize frontend: Gnome
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> debconf: (Can't locate object method "signal_connect" via package "Gtk2::Window" at /usr/share/perl5/Debconf/FrontEnd/Gnome.pm line 73, <> line 35.)
[05:59] <bluefoxicy> debconf: falling back to frontend: Dialog
[05:59] <nalioth> Sohmc: install the "ssh" package
[06:00] <Xenguy> Sohmc: $EDITOR /etc/ssh/sshd_config first; then start ssh with sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[06:00] <DonL> bur[n] er_, I've just about had it with mplayer. It dies and takes firefox with it. Go back, try to do it again and it dies again
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> wow.
[06:00] <underscore_> bur[n] er_: Not as long as you're here to hold my hand.
[06:00] <bluefoxicy> blue screens in synaptic
[06:00] <underscore_> :D
[06:00] <bur[n] er_> siriuskr: it's the next version of KDE :)  great for #kubuntu-offtopic ;)
[06:00] <KeithWeisshar> but when I try to install it it failed while installing a package
[06:00] <KeithWeisshar> the iso was downloaded with bittorrent
[06:00] <magicjj> hey you all i have a problem
[06:00] <magicjj> my ubuntu wont load my x-server graphical interface
[06:00] <dooglus> nalioth: I just ran "sudo nautilus" and it didn't make any files as root at all.  is there something specific you have to do to get it to make files as root?
[06:00] <bur[n] er_> DonL: firefox plugin for video is only really taken care of by mozilla-mplayer at the moment, the totem firefox plugin isn't good yet
[06:00] <Sohmc> nalioth, question two: how do I install the ssh package?  I assume there is something equavilant to yum in ubunto that there is for fedora
[06:01] <intelikey> !info start-stop-daemon
[06:01] <KeithWeisshar> i'm using arita dvd+r 8x
[06:01] <nalioth> dooglus: wait until you restart your box.
[06:01] <magicjj> and i haven't used any linux platform at all so i dont know where to start in command line
[06:01] <Sohmc> I'm sorry if I'm asking such newbie questions....
[06:01] <bur[n] er_> magicjj: did it ever work? any background?
[06:01] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Sohmc about apt-get
[06:01] <underscore_> I got an error.
[06:01] <bur[n] er_> Sohmc: sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[06:01] <speedybits> I have a strange problem in Breezy...the CPU is railed at 100% with no apps running.
[06:01] <underscore_> Says there's a noninteractive synaptic running.
[06:01] <nalioth> Sohmc: this is the channel for your questions, check your priv msgs
[06:01] <underscore_> I'll figure this out.
[06:01] <null> speedybits, top, then P
[06:01] <underscore_> roar.
[06:01] <bur[n] er_> Sohmc: bah, better yet, check the private message
[06:01] <DonL> bur[n] er_, have you had experience with opera? I've got it now and am playing with it, but so far it won't do multimedia for me
[06:01] <KeithWeisshar> during the first install it failed on the openoffice package, when I rebooted and restarted the install it failed on the parted package
[06:02] <null> see which process is eating up the cpu
[06:02] <bur[n] er_> DonL: i couldn't get it to do flash even ;)
[06:02] <dooglus> nalioth: what do you mean?  do you think restarting will make some files owned by root in my home directory?
[06:02] <DonL> Oh. I've got flash and Java happening
[06:02] <bur[n] er_> DonL: not to say it isn't possible, i just never took teh time
[06:02] <KeithWeisshar> what causes random error while installing ubuntu from dvd?
[06:02] <dooglus> nalioth: currently "find ~ -user root" finds nothing
[06:02] <bur[n] er_> KeithWeisshar: underpants gnomes
[06:02] <underscore_> Got it.
[06:02] <underscore_> wewt.
[06:03] <nalioth> dooglus: it is a known bug in gnome. it has been a bug for over 2 years. if you've just sudo nautilus'd, you will be bitten by the bug
[06:03] <underscore_> <3
[06:03] <dooglus> nalioth: what's the bug number?
[06:03] <speedybits> Running 'top' shows only a few apps below 15%....but system monitor says CPU is at 100%
[06:03] <intelikey> Sohmc dpkg is the package handler in debian based systems.  there are several frontends for it, apt<tab>  aptitude  and  synaptic (the GUI frontend)  and they are well documneted in the man pages.
[06:03] <Xenguy> magicjj: have you tried: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:03] <Xenguy> ?
[06:03] <DonL> I really do like Firefox, but it's pretty upsetting when it constantly crashes. There must be something wrong somewhere
[06:03] <meng> thanks n signing out
[06:03] <bur[n] er_> speedybits: try htop ;)
[06:03] <mojo34> where do I find a log of my bootup?
[06:03] <bur[n] er_> DonL: i can't have a direct comparison, i've been using dapper :\ sorry
[06:03] <bur[n] er_> mojo34: dmesg
[06:04] <Sohmc> intelikey, thanks...I'm attempting to shrug off my fedora stuff...I'm sure I'll have to relearn most of the maintainence/admin stuff
[06:04] <nalioth> dooglus: join me in an -offtopic channel please
[06:04] <speedybits> Ibur[n] er_: is 'htop' in the repo's?
[06:04] <DonL> bur[n] er_ ahh the new ubuntu
[06:04] <bur[n] er_> speedybits: of course
[06:04] <Sohmc> remember the days when you compiled *EVERYTHING* from source?
[06:04] <dooglus> nalioth: any in particular?
[06:04] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, what is it like.. performance wise?
[06:04] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: getting better everyday
[06:05] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, that's if you remember wat breezy was like :)
[06:05] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: it's been pretty gradually faster and faster, so I can't really say it's been dramatic from Breezy
[06:05] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: that's the thing ;)  I don't
[06:05] <DonL> Sohmc, you may like apt-get after using rpm for a while
[06:05] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, :) figured you wouldnt.. using it for awhile havent you
[06:05] <DShepherd> ?
[06:05] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: a lot of little things, nothing too drastic
[06:05] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: bout a month or two
[06:05] <intelikey> Sohmc i just spent several hours repairing apt on this system.   not an indication of a problematic app but the results of a botched install.
[06:06] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, yeah.. i didnt expect anything drastic... breezy was pretty good
[06:06] <Sohmc> DonL, I like it already...the console version is MUCH better than yum
[06:06] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: have you seen the new logout screen?
[06:06] <iantec> _jason are you there?
[06:06] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, naw.. care to share?
[06:06] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: sure, one sec
[06:06] <Sohmc> okay...sshd is failing to start
[06:06] <mojo34> I need a command that shows me the things that failed in the bootup :(
[06:07] <DonL> Sohmc, do you use synaptic at all?
[06:07] <nalioth> dooglus: i'm in both #ubuntu-offtopic and #kubuntu-offtopic
[06:07] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, is gnome considerably faster? i have heard person's comparing it to xfce now...its performance that is
[06:07] <Sohmc> I used apt-get
[06:07] <iantec> i want to know how to restore my root privileges since its locked for some reason.
[06:07] <s_spiff> all right...me now on Dapper Drake Live CD
[06:07] <mojo34> dmesg does not show me the the modules that did not load like usbcore.
[06:07] <intelikey> Sohmc i sujest you learn  'apt-cache search/show'  and  'apt-get install/remove'  as basic system calls.   the man pages on them are not bad.
[06:07] <magicjj>  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? havent tried it let me write that down and i'll try it now
[06:07] <DonL> Sohmc, you're a command line kind of person?
[06:08] <keir> I'm installing dapper drake on a spare partition of my laptop to figure out how supported it is; is rad laptop support still a mission for dapper?
[06:08] <Sohmc> DonL, yes, I am!
[06:08] <s_spiff> hey! synaptic is still here! i thought they were going to do away with it!
[06:08] <alvaro> hello!!
[06:08] <DonL> Sohmc, lol
[06:08] <alvaro> help me... I need posgress
[06:08] <Sohmc> intelikey, will do
[06:08] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: http://burner.ath.cx/screenshot.jpg
[06:08] <intelikey> DonL  cli kind of guy = old linux hand
[06:08] <underscore_> Hm
[06:08] <RedRose> what are the defacto servers for POP3 and SMTP?
[06:08] <DonL> s_spiff, yes, I really like Synaptic
[06:08] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok
[06:08] <underscore_> I still can't get the mp3 to play.
[06:08] <underscore_> I downloaded.
[06:08] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, is gnome considerably faster? i have heard person's comparing it to xfce now...its performance that is
[06:08] <underscore_> Oh well.
[06:08] <Sohmc> DonL, even with a GUI, I still have terminals openned
[06:08] <underscore_> I'll figure it out later.
[06:09] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: it's close... i have 512 ram though
[06:09] <s_spiff> yeah I like it too, but some one told me they were going to remove it
[06:09] <Sohmc> intelikey, well, I'll fix sshd
[06:09] <DonL> Sohmc, good for you. Much faster
[06:09] <kestaswork> asking a linux user if he's a 'command line sort of person' is like asking a windows user whether they're a gui sort of person
[06:09] <Sohmc> intelikey, ...later
[06:09] <underscore_> kestaswork: lol.
[06:09] <Sohmc> AHHH!!!!
[06:09] <DonL> I'm a bit of a "point and shoot" kind of guy though, even though I use the command line fairly often
[06:09] <Sohmc> Now I don't have gtar!
[06:09] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok kool... but i bet you couldnt really tell me.. you are already dappered
[06:10] <s_spiff> kestasawork not necessary. I'm a noob, but still a linux user..but almost...slmost.. a gui guer
[06:10] <RedRose> what are the defacto servers for POP3 and SMTP?
[06:10] <DonL> kestaswork, haha
[06:10] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: i use xfce too though
[06:10] <s_spiff> brb
[06:10] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ah.. and? its pretty close?
[06:10] <intelikey> Sohmc would you care to 'less /sbin/start-stop-daemon '  and tell me if it is a simple two line script that only echos a not doing anything message ?
[06:10] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: they're not close to mem usage yet... and it's still noticeably faster in xfce
[06:11] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok kool
[06:11] <Sohmc> intelikey, lol...not a problem...give me a sec
[06:11] <DonL> bur[n] er_, I installed Xfce a while back and go into it from time to time. Very nice, very quick
[06:11] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, that sounds fair enough..
[06:11] <bur[n] er_> DonL: xubuntu-desktop ?
[06:11] <Sohmc> intelikey, I can't less it...it's a binary file
[06:11] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, i have xubuntu-desktop too.. but i dont use it much
[06:11] <intelikey> ok  thank you
[06:12] <DonL> bur[n] er_, thinking back,, yes I think that's how I got it
[06:12] <intelikey> now if i can find out why all i got was a script of do nothingness i'll fix it.....
[06:12] <bur[n] er_> once thunar matures, I'll be switching anyway
[06:12] <KeithWeisshar> why does the installation sometimes fail when installing from dvd+r
[06:12] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, this screenshot is taking a while to load.. how small is this?
[06:12] <underscore_> I need to theme this.
[06:12] <underscore_> Plain = ugly.
[06:12] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: it's my home connection, i'll upload it to my blog ;)
[06:12] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ah! i see
[06:12] <DonL> I try not to stray too far from the accepted norms, officially appreciated programs
[06:13] <KeithWeisshar> why do I get errors when installing ubuntu from dvd+r even though it burned ok with nero
[06:13] <Sohmc> intelikey, I can send you my file if you'd like
[06:13] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, do what you must.. :)
[06:13] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, tango icons.. nice :)
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> I'm having trouble with suspend; could someone help me diagnose it?
[06:13] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, i like use the same ones too
[06:13] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: i'm a huge fan ;) they keep growing too
[06:14] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: another plus that it's in apt ;)
[06:14] <DonL> got to go get some sleep. Night folks
[06:14] <intelikey> Sohmc better not... there are probably libs that go with it...
[06:14] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, so what is firefox 1.5 like? I am using it now.. its has some issues when reordering tabs. what is it like on dapper?
[06:14] <midwinter> I think that logout panel could do with some more empty space on it ;)
[06:14] <intelikey> if i don't have the binnary i probably don't have the libs either.
[06:15] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, tango icons are in apt!!?? are you serious!!
[06:15] <Sohmc> you could do a ldd to find out with libs and install them
[06:15] <RedRose> sorry to ask again, but i missed it, what are the standard POP3 and SMTP servers?
[06:15] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, you are soo.. right!
[06:15] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, apt is great!!
[06:15] <Sohmc> RedRose, depends on your ISP
[06:15] <Sohmc> RedRose, or do you mean on your linux box?
[06:15] <RedRose> linux box
[06:15] <RedRose> lol...
[06:16] <intelikey> oh and i'm lagging about 20 seconds now...  be back after the dl.
[06:16] <RedRose> what's the usual or common POP3 or SMTP server running?
[06:16] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, so firefox.. what is it like?
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> /var/log/acpid has "finger: /dev//pts/0: No such file or directory"
[06:16] <Sohmc> RedRose, POP3, I have dovecot running and SMTP is typcially sendmail
[06:16] <speedy> RedRose, exim
[06:16] <tonyyarusso> A lot.
[06:17] <overflow-1> hi, i am new to ubuntu (i come from a gentoo background). i wanted to know, how i can apt-get install thunderbird 1.5 RC2
[06:17] <pmallapp> hi all
[06:17] <nalioth> overflow-1: not yet.
[06:17] <pmallapp> anybody used HelpExplorer a Professional .hlp and .chm viewer for Linux
[06:17] <speedybits> Strange...htop and top both show no unusual activity, but gnome-system-monitor shows 100% CPU and my machine is slow.
[06:18] <George_Harrison> I'm having troubles getting sound to work in flash. I have Firefox 1.5 with ubuntu breezy. I have followed two guides on ubuntu forums but it still does not work
[06:18] <overflow-1> nalioth, can't i put some bleeding egde repository to my sources.list, and then apt-get it?
[06:18] <tonyyarusso> overflow-1, You can still get it from Mozilla's site.
[06:19] <nalioth> overflow-1: if you are from gentoo, you can compile it (it is not yet in any repos that i know of, cutting edge or not)
[06:19] <siriuskr> is there a program that will let me VNC into my windows Machine and Hear the sound thats playing from it ????
[06:19] <Sohmc> for some wierd reason, when I try to run synaptic from gnome, it won't accept my password
[06:19] <George_Harrison> so.. how about that flash..
[06:19] <overflow-1> tonyyarusso, nalioth : fair enough. tnx.
[06:19] <Sohmc> are there two different passwords for the GUI and the console??
[06:19] <overflow-1> nalioth, can i apt-get firefox 1.5?
[06:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell overflow-1 about firefox15
[06:20] <overflow-1> nalioth, tnx for your time.
[06:20] <nalioth> overflow-1: any time
[06:20] <tonyyarusso> Sohmc, No, it'll have something to do with your sudo setup.
[06:20] <George_Harrison> so why is the sound in flash corrupt in ubuntu
[06:21] <Sohmc> *sigh...*
[06:21] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: i give up, i dont' know how ot work my blog software to upload a picture ;)
[06:21] <Sohmc> do I need to be in wheel group?
[06:21] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, that's kool
[06:21] <tonyyarusso> George_Harrison, I'm not sure.  I had that issue once, but I think I ended up reinstalling flash (or maybe it was part of getting ff1.5), and it worked later.
[06:21] <siriuskr> is there a program that will let me VNC into my windows Machine and Hear the sound thats playing from it ????
[06:22] <nalioth> Sohmc: if you arent put into a group, you probably dont need to be in it
[06:22] <George_Harrison> hmm.. ok I'll try it I guess. I've followed many guides on the ubuntu forums but they do not work. aoss doesn't work for me in flash
[06:22] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: http://buranen.info/screenshot.jpg :)
[06:22] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, the first link is loading fine.. i refreshed it and it seems good
[06:23] <George_Harrison> and I haven't really installed flash (through the run script from the macromedia site) I just installed Firefox 1.5 through Automatix and flash was defaulted
[06:23] <Sohmc> nalioth, okay...so how do I get synaptic to authenticate correctly?  I assume it has something to do with /etc/sudoers
[06:23] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, pretty :)
[06:23] <FunkyELF> what is the latest release that is an offical supported release?
[06:24] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, is there a way to take screenshots of the menu when they are opened?
[06:24] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: other than that, new rhythmbox is crash happy ;)  just transitioned to gstreamer0.10
[06:24] <_jason> Sohmc: does sudo work on other commands? like 'sudo echo hi'?
[06:24] <nalioth> Sohmc: click alt-f2 on your keyboard then "gksudo synaptic" <enter>
[06:24] <bur[n] er_> FunkyELF: Breezy Badger 05.10
[06:24] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok.. I would expect crashing at this stage
[06:24] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: import command?
[06:24] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: see my screenshot ;)
[06:24] <FunkyELF> bur[n] er_, same for Kubuntu?
[06:24] <bur[n] er_> FunkyELF: si senor
[06:24] <tonyyarusso> What will tell me what's going wrong in suspend and hibernate?
[06:25] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, bam! kool
[06:25] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, let me try
[06:25] <Sohmc> hold on...checking
[06:25] <FunkyELF> bur[n] er_, and will there be an easy way to upgrade to 6 from an official release?
[06:25] <bur[n] er_> FunkyELF: yes, apt
[06:26] <Sohmc> _jason, nope...I can't sudo echo hi
[06:26] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, i can seem to take a screenshot with menus opened
[06:26] <_jason> Sohmc: paste the output of 'groups'
[06:26] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, i meant i CANT
[06:26] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: sleep 5 && import -window root screenshot.jpg
[06:26] <pmallapp> how come no wine for amd64
[06:26] <bur[n] er_> run that, then open the menu quickly ;)
[06:27] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok trying that now
[06:27] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: within 5 seconds of course ;)
[06:27] <dooglus> or sleep 10 - and then you can open it slowly
[06:27] <ejofee> does ubuntu have any application which can be used as a chronometer.
[06:27] <ejofee> s/\./\?/
[06:27] <tonyyarusso> What is /dev//pts/0 ?
[06:27] <dooglus> ejofee: you don't need that 2nd \
[06:28] <Sohmc> _jason, sohmc adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[06:28] <anathema_> hey guys, i got a archos gmini400...cant get it working in linux..works fine in windows..
[06:28] <_jason> Sohmc: is this the account you created during install?
[06:28] <anathema_> its basically a mass storage
[06:28] <anathema_> but linux gives me the error in dmesg: device not accepting address 15, error -71
[06:28] <ejofee> dooglus: are you sure? isn't "?" hunger-related (therefore reserved syntax)?
[06:28] <anathema_> anyone know what that means what i can do?
[06:29] <dooglus> ejofee: hunger-related?  what do you mean?
[06:29] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, seems to work. so how is firefox 1.5?
[06:29] <Sohmc> _jason, yup
[06:29] <ejofee> dooglus: ".*" is considered "hungry", that is, it matches as *much* as it can.
[06:29] <anathema_> anyone ?
[06:29] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: it's not... it's 1.4 rc still...
[06:29] <dooglus> ejofee: not on the right hand side it doesn't
[06:29] <_jason> Sohmc: did you happen to enable root?
[06:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell anathema_ about anyone
[06:29] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: tab-reordering is fine though
[06:29] <mzinz> Question: I was trying to install Firefox1.5 and messed up some how.  I couldn't figure out how to revert back to 1.07 so I downloaded Opera and copied it to my Ubuntu box.  How do I install the .deb file?
[06:30] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, kool
[06:30] <Sohmc> _jason, enable root?  I can su to root, if that's what you mean
[06:30] <bur[n] er_> mzinz: sudo dpkg -i file.deb
[06:30] <dooglus> ejofee: in s/a/b/ 'a' is the regexp, 'b' is a string
[06:30] <mzinz> Thank yoU!
[06:30] <ejofee> dooglus: i know, but i was assuming the reserved syntax is globally, blindly, dealt with.
[06:30] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: not really :\  but whatever..
[06:30] <Sohmc> _jason, sudo does not work though
[06:30] <_jason> Sohmc: yes do that and do 'adduser your_username admin'
[06:30] <dooglus> ejofee: no, only when parsing regexps
[06:30] <ejofee> dooglus: however, i understand that i was wrong
[06:31] <dooglus> ejofee: not wrong, it would still work - but you wasted a character :)
[06:31] <intelikey> anathema_ i know very little about such  but hdd's generally use int15  and the irq on that dev seems to not accept int15  is there a jumper on the device you could change ?
[06:31] <ejofee> dooglus :)
[06:31] <Sohmc> _jason, it says that the group admin does not exist
[06:31] <anathema_> nope:)
[06:31] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: it's still thunderbird 1.07 as well for the record
[06:31] <Sohmc> _jason, I assume I'll have to add it manually
[06:32] <_jason> Sohmc: addgroup admin && adduser your_user admin
[06:32] <mzinz> bur[n] er_, I got a few notices saying things weren't installed, then it said 'error processing opera (--install_), then cancelled installation
[06:32] <intelikey> then a soft fix in the kernel is the only option anathema_  or as your nick says, 'SoL'
[06:32] <Sohmc> _jason, okay...done
[06:32] <_jason> Sohmc: test sudo with your user, if it fails pastebin /etc/sudoers
[06:33] <Sohmc> _jason, I'm logging out and loging back in
[06:33] <_jason> Sohmc: ok
[06:33] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, ok... think thunderbird 1.5 will make it?
[06:33] <anathema_> nalioth: every time i plug it in i get a diff erro
[06:33] <anathema_> r
[06:33] <bur[n] er_> mzinz: shitty... apt-get -f install fix it?
[06:33] <windowmaker> does anybody here play ragnarok online on linux?
[06:33] <anathema_> "can't read configurations, error -75"
[06:33] <dooglus> _jason: I've heard reports that some people have "adm" as the admin group rather than "admin" in their sudoers.  I don't know if that's something left over from hoary, or where it comes from
[06:33] <anathema_> thats the next one
[06:33] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: i'm assuming so, there's plenty of time until april ;)
[06:33] <mzinz> hang on
[06:33] <_jason> dooglus: oh, I did not know that
[06:34] <Sohmc> _jason, didn't work....
[06:34] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, yeah i hope so... anything else worth mentioning?
[06:34] <dooglus> _jason: I don't know it for a fact, but I've seen a couple of people here with "adm" as their admin group
[06:34] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: if not, I'll have a .deb handy ;0
[06:34] <intelikey> that's not a different error anathema_  still  error -75
[06:34] <_jason> Sohmc: pastebin /etc/sudoers
[06:34] <_jason> dooglus: even in /etc/sudoers?
[06:34] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, :)
[06:34] <dooglus> _jason: yes
[06:34] <bur[n] er_> DShepherd: i wish there was...  mostly just polishing and cleanup stuff.  gdm and screensaver have gotten some love
[06:34] <_jason> dooglus: interesting
[06:35] <Sohmc> _jason, how should I paste this?
[06:35] <_jason> !pastebin
[06:35] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:35] <ejofee> dooglus: cool! then this means "\" must be used only for <list>\'/</list> (and \1, \2, etc., of course)?
[06:36] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, kool.. aight then thanks.. I plan to upgrade in feb or so.. should be fun!
[06:36] <intelikey> hehhe my sudoers is short and sweet, one line;  root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[06:36] <mzinz> bur[n] er_, it still didn't work.  When i try to do the apt-get install or update it just doesn't work.... Any ideas
[06:36] <DShepherd> bur[n] er_, I am just hoping gaim 2 will be out and ready when dapper is done.. maybe firefox 2 too
[06:36] <dooglus> ejofee: I guess first we need to agree what language we're talking about
[06:37] <Sohmc> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7307
[06:37] <dooglus> ejofee: I guess you're talking Perl, right?
[06:37] <ejofee> dooglus: yes
[06:37] <_jason> Sohmc: 'visudo' as root and make yours look like mine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7021 (last two lines)
[06:37] <ejofee> dooglus: (how did you guess that?!)
[06:37] <siriuskr> i have have a program complaining that i dont have audiofile but i have it
[06:38] <windowmaker> does anybody here play ragnarok online on linux? how do you get it working?
[06:38] <dooglus> ejofee: 'cos sed doesn't have greedy matching I don't think, and Ruby's a little obscure
[06:38] <gleesond> can anyone point me in the direction for finding out how to get photoshop running corectly with wine?
[06:38] <ejofee> dooglus: oh, i see
[06:38] <Sohmc> _jason, hmmm...I think the old-school group of sudoers was "wheel"...I guess admin makes more sence
[06:38] <windowmaker> gleesond: what version?
[06:38] <dooglus> ejofee: sed *only* has greedy matching, I mean
[06:38] <Sohmc> *sense
[06:38] <gleesond> photoshop 6
[06:38] <ejofee> dooglus: then how does sed deal with greediness?
[06:38] <_jason> Sohmc: I think so too
[06:38] <windowmaker> gleesond, i haven't tried 6 in wine, sorry =(
[06:38] <dooglus> ejofee: * is always greedy.
[06:38] <mzinz> bur[n] er_, it says my problem is that: "opera depends on libqt3-mt (>=3.3.4) | libqt3c102-mt (>=3.3.4)"
[06:38] <windowmaker> gleesond, i know it works with crossoveroffice though
[06:39] <gleesond> is that available in the repository
[06:39] <Sohmc> _jason, okay...changes made
[06:39] <_jason> Sohmc: should work now
[06:39] <windowmaker> gleesond, nope, it's non-free, may i PM you?
[06:39] <gleesond> shure
[06:39] <Sohmc> _jason, logging back in
[06:40] <gleesond> sp?
[06:40] <gleesond> sure
[06:40] <gleesond> er
[06:40] <ejofee> dooglus: then how does sed deal with those situations when non-greedy matching would be necessary?
[06:40] <jcuse> Evening all
[06:40] <jcuse> Anyone Awake?
[06:40] <intelikey> gleesond i'm with you. sure should have an h in it.
[06:41] <Sohmc> _jason, didn't work...do I need to restart sudo or something because I saw an entry for it in /etc/init.d
[06:41] <jcuse> Can someone help me?
[06:41] <gleesond> heh
[06:41] <dooglus> ejofee: first off, I'm wrong.  "man sed" refers me to Perl's "perlre" regexp manual - so sed uses Perl re's...  I was thinking of the HP-UX sed I guess.
[06:41] <dooglus> ejofee: I tried a non-greedy match in sed and it worked.
[06:41] <_jason> Sohmc: might be, I usually just tell people to reboot.  But if you know how to restart it, let me know
[06:41] <speedy> jcuse, dont ask for help, just shoot your question
[06:41] <jcuse> Thanks
[06:42] <kestaswork> BSD sed is also different
[06:42] <dooglus> ejofee: echo aa | sed 's/a?*/b/' ==> ba
[06:42] <kestaswork> very annoying
[06:42] <jcuse> Im cant increase my screen resolution and I read a topic on the forums and I dont understand it...
[06:42] <ejofee> dooglus: thank you
[06:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell jcuse about fixres
[06:42] <Sohmc> _jason, rebooting the stupid thing
[06:42] <jcuse> thanks
[06:42] <_jason> Sohmc: alright
[06:42] <Sohmc> someone please tell me that this is worth it....;-)
[06:43] <dooglus> ejofee: so what was the question?  you were wondering whether ubuntu had a clock?
[06:43] <windowmaker> how do i make private conversations again?
[06:43] <intelikey> why you want us to lie to you Sohmc
[06:43] <_jason> Sohmc: uh oh there goes your uptime
[06:43] <dooglus> windowmaker: /query nick
[06:43] <ejofee> dooglus: shouldn't it be "a*?"?
[06:43] <ejofee> dooglus: yes
[06:43] <windowmaker> dooglus,  thanks
[06:43] <timfrost> _jason, Sohmc, there is nothing to restart.  Sohmc, if id -a doesn't list admin for you, then you may need to add yourself to group admin and then log back in
[06:43] <Sohmc> _jason, lol
[06:43] <adriyel> Guys, might be some big news behind this, CHECK THIS OUT http://www.lobby4linux.com/WordPress/ this might mean a revolution for Desktop Linux, check it out!
[06:43] <ejofee> dooglus: in fact, a way to chronometer... certain activities in my household :)
[06:43] <Sohmc> timfrost, I logged out and logged back in
[06:43] <Sohmc> checked groups and I was in admin
[06:43] <dooglus> ejofee: of course it should...  and that works too :)
[06:44] <Sohmc> timfrost, just wasn't sudoing
[06:44] <ejofee> dooglus :))
[06:44] <jcuse> How do I run commands?
[06:44] <timfrost> Sohmc, what is the status now?
[06:44] <adriyel> http://www.lobby4linux.com/WordPress/ we have a big project announcement in 72 hours that might be the needle that broke Microsoft's back, check this out!
[06:44] <Sohmc> timfrost, computer is booting up
[06:44] <_jason> jcuse: accessories -> terminal under applications menu
[06:45] <jcuse> thanks again
[06:45] <Sohmc> I may have to call this a night shortly
[06:45] <dooglus> ejofee: I looked it up.  it means "an accurate clock (especially used in navigation)".  if you use ntp, ubuntu's clock is accurate.  what more do you want from it?
[06:45] <Sohmc> _jason, didn't work
[06:46] <mzinz> QUESTION: While trying to install Firefox 1.5, something went wrong.  How do I revert back to 1.07??
[06:46] <_jason> Sohmc: hrmm.. this always works...
[06:46] <_jason> Sohmc: you are testing sudo, not gksudo?
[06:46] <Sohmc> _jason, well, that would just be the underscore of my day today
[06:46] <Sohmc> _jason, yes
[06:46] <Sohmc> *yawn*
[06:47] <_jason> Sohmc: double check sudoers
[06:47] <Sohmc> _jason, I copied and pasted your line
[06:48] <intelikey> :)
[06:48] <ejofee> dooglus: a chronometer... that is, an application which stops counting time when i press space or enter (or etc.) and then starts counting again (from where it was the last time) and thus can give me the total time.
[06:48] <_jason> Sohmc: well one thing I can think of is admin should be a system group which we didn't do
[06:48] <iantec> _jason im the same guy last night...what is the command i need to type to regain my privileges int his account?
[06:49] <ejofee> dooglus: maybe a more common word for that would be "timer"?
[06:49] <Sohmc> _jason, it shouldn't matter what the GID number is
[06:49] <ejofee> dooglus: i am not that good at... vulgar english :)
[06:49] <Sohmc> well, this is another problem I can fix later...for now, I'll do this the old-fashion way...su to root, and then run it from the command line
[06:49] <intelikey> iantec chown [you] :[you]  $HOME -R   ?
[06:49] <_jason> Sohmc: yeah I didn't think so either, but I've done this with a few people and it's been pretty straight forward
[06:49] <mrmocha> anyone here using the old crappy alcatel DSL USB modem?
[06:50] <iantec> will i typoe that exactly im sorry im a noob
[06:50] <_jason> iantec: where are you now, is your user a member of the 'admin' group?  (check with the 'groups' command)
[06:50] <Sohmc> _jason, I don't doubt it is...I need to get gtar, so that I can install this hard-drive restorrer...and all will be well
[06:50] <jcuse> I think I did something wrong cause I went through a bunch of entering and my resolution is stil lthe same
[06:50] <windowmaker> does anybody here use cedega?
[06:50] <iantec> iantec adm dialout fax cdrom floppy tape audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner
[06:50] <jcuse> could you link me again jason about the screen res
[06:50] <intelikey> iantec they [you]   should reflect your login name.  iantec  or what ever.
[06:50] <Sohmc> is there a reason why gtar, sshd are not installed by default?
[06:50] <ice_nine> I'm trying to install my wifi windows drivers using ndiswrapper. Got through the wiki tutorial successfully but when I got to point of actually installing it I got: "couldn't copy /home/tom/windows_drivers/bcmwl5a.inf at /usr/sbin/ndiswrapper line 135"
[06:51] <_jason> Sohmc: that really seems a bit drastic.  Try changing the sudoers line to your username instead of %admin, at least you might get sudo priv's
[06:51] <ice_nine> Does it with both inf files
[06:51] <dooglus> ejofee: there's a package in universe called "stopwatch".
[06:51] <sword> hey whats a good usenet client for ubuntu
[06:51] <jcuse> Still having trouble increasing screen resolutio9n
[06:51] <mrmocha> so nobody uses the USB modem
[06:51] <intelikey> iantec you will probably need to sudo that command for it to work.
[06:52] <mrmocha> I've had little success in setting it up... then again, I'm so n00b it hurtz
[06:52] <iantec> do i need to include the $HOME -R
[06:52] <ejofee> dooglus: thanks a lot!
[06:52] <intelikey> yes
[06:52] <Sohmc> _jason, well, it's how I've always done things with fedora and didn't cause too much problems...like I said...I need to get the data off the hard drive.  I can worry about sudo after I do that
[06:52] <_jason> Sohmc: true
[06:53] <windowmaker> does anybody here use cedega?
[06:53] <mzinz_165> I messed up my Firefox while trying to install 1.5 "failed to execute child process".  How do I revert to 1.07?
[06:53] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~$ sudo chown iantec:iantec $HOME -R
[06:53] <iantec> Password:
[06:53] <iantec> iantec@ubuntu:~$
[06:53] <iantec>  ......how will i know if it worked?
[06:53] <Sohmc> hmmm...there's no gtar in synaptic....
[06:53] <ejofee> dooglus: i have each and every (breezy) official and semi-official (source-o-matic) repo sources and i don't have stopwatch. any idea what i am missing?
[06:54] <magicjj> hey you all, i did "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg" and reconfigured everything, then it got to where i tell it 24 bit color, and it said "xserver-xorg postinst warning: overwriting possibly - customised configuration file; backup in /etc/x11/xorg.conf.200601180110"
[06:54] <timfrost> Sohmc, /bin/tar in ubuntu *is* gnu tar (=gtar)
[06:54] <magicjj> does this mean it saved it?
[06:54] <magicjj> if so, that didnt work
[06:54] <magicjj> i'm getting the same error
[06:55] <iantec> i tried using synaptic intelikey still error conversation with su
[06:55] <magicjj> also every time i start up ubuntu i have to disable my USB controller because it conflicts with it and wont let me start up, any ideas on why that'd be?
[06:55] <Orborde> How can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?
[06:55] <Sohmc> timfrost, I think I'm going to cry....
[06:56] <Sohmc> OKAY!!!  Now I've got testdrive untarred
[06:56] <billytwowilly> Hi, I'm trying to get phpsane to work with my scanner. scanimage works fine, but when I try and activate it from within phpsane (web frontend for sane) the scanner doesn't start up.
[06:57] <billytwowilly> what user would phpsane be running as?
[06:57] <billytwowilly> in apache?
[06:57] <dooglus> ejofee: it looks like stopwatch is new for dapper. :(
[06:57] <intelikey> iantec then it looks like you were not asking about "premissions" after all,  but root privlages     you must be part of  'adm' or 'admin' group  and then it "should" work....  i make no promices tho.
[06:57] <iantec> _jason is this right as root: adduser myusername admin?
[06:57] <_jason> iantec: yes
[06:57] <painkiler> hey guys whats the apt-get command for firefox 1.5?
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Grr...All of my acpi scripts, for suspend and hibernate, don't work.  I can't find the pattern either.  On a previous install (same machine) everything worked, then hibernate and not suspend, now nothing.
[06:58] <painkiler> i type apt-get install firefox
[06:58] <billytwowilly> painkiler, apt-get install firefox read the man page dude;)
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> painkiler: There is none for 1.5.
[06:58] <painkiler> but it says im up to date
[06:58] <ejofee> dooglus: you mean dapper is the first to include it?
[06:58] <magicjj> i gotta go you all thanks for all your help tonight i'll be back on tomorrow and see if we can get things straight
[06:58] <magicjj> later
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> !firefox1.5
[06:58] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:58] <iantec> hmmmm it said command not found
[06:58] <intelikey> iantec you can 'cat /etc/sudoers '  as root and see if it is  adm or admin  that you need.
[06:58] <christoph_> gaskkp
[06:58] <ejofee> dooglus: and... is dapper already useable?
[06:59] <bur[n] er_> ejofee: buggy, but usable
[06:59] <dooglus> ejofee: http://packages.ubuntu.com/cgi-bin/search_packages.pl?keywords=stopwatch&searchon=names&version=all
[06:59] <Orborde> How can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?
[06:59] <ejofee> dooglus: thanks again
[06:59] <iantec> wait im sorry but what is it that i have to do?
[06:59] <bur[n] er_> ejofee: not to be an official release till april and only recommended for developers and bug-hunters and/or idiots
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> Orborde: I think that's part of hdparm.  (Confirm?)
[06:59] <iantec> i typoed that ad it said permission denied
[06:59] <_jason> iantec: that means you are not root
[06:59] <sword> any of you use klibido
[07:00] <dooglus> ejofee: I use it.  I must have reported more than 10 bugs just yesterday, but it has been well usable for me.  Of course, it could blow up at the next update, but that's part of the fun.
[07:00] <ejofee> bur[n] er_: "and/or idiots" :))))))))
[07:00] <iantec> arg, i really dont get it now this account is useless it can only perform basic tasks.... why cant i use my pass anymore even in getting updates or chaning settings?
[07:01] <_jason> iantec: that is what we are fixing.  Do you have another account with sudo privileges?  if not, you will need to reboot in recovery mode
[07:02] <ejofee> bur[n] er_: i guess this would be more accurate (according to what i suppose ubuntu's policies are): only recommended for (developers and bug-hunters) xor idiots (parantheses supplied just for hyperclarity)
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> So I tried doing this with irssi (first time), and I'm curious, how do you get at different "tabs", for pm and server stuff?
[07:02] <_jason> tonyyarusso: alt + #
[07:03] <iantec> i do
[07:03] <_jason> iantec: log into the one with sudo privileges then
[07:03] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: ctrl-n and ctrl-p for prev and next windows.
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> _jason, cafuego: Thanks.  (Figured I should know in case I break something with X and need help.)
[07:04] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ha that's actually good thinking
[07:04] <dooglus> ejofee: I'm not sure it's an xor - I'm an idiot developer/bug-hunter
[07:04] <sword> any of you use klibido
[07:04] <ejofee> dooglus :))
[07:04] <ejofee> cafuego: how does xchat suck?
[07:05] <iantec> ok i go log in in my main account thisis what i use to experiment on stuff so the other one wont break
[07:05] <_jason> iantec: and does sudo work here? try 'sudo echo hi'
[07:05] <cafuego> ejofee: it's ugly and requires X.
[07:05] <mrmocha> n00b here... need all the help I can get
[07:06] <speedy> quit
[07:06] <ejofee> cafuego: well, most apps require x11 these days...
[07:06] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Doesn't gnome-terminal use X too?
[07:06] <mrmocha> anyone know how to change the desktop image?
[07:06] <pat_> salut a tous
[07:06] <dooglus> ejofee: there's a package called "gtimer" which might be good enough for you.  you can specify multiple 'tasks' you want to time.  it doesn't have the nice 1000th of a second display that stopwatch has, but it works OK
[07:07] <ejofee> cafuego: then again, why don't you try kvirc or konversation (this is a reply for yours "it's ugly")
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> mrmocha: You mean the background?
[07:07] <mustard5> mrmocha, gnome?
[07:07] <regeya> !tell pat_ about french
[07:07] <_ian_> ok im using the user that is still ok
[07:07] <ejofee> dooglus: thank you very much
[07:07] <cafuego> ejofee: Coz when it comes to X, I find KDe *the* ugliest desktop environemnt <heh>
[07:07] <mrmocha> tonyyarusso, yes background
[07:07] <mrmocha> mustard5, yes gnome
[07:07] <pat_> sorry
[07:07] <ejofee> dooglus: i always forget to try to add the "g" or "k" prefix
[07:07] <regeya> damn it all, there's not a french channel?
[07:07] <_ian_> so what do i need to do now?
[07:07] <tonyyarusso> mrmocha: You can either right-click, or System > Preferences > Desktop background.
[07:07] <mustard5> mrmocha, system>>preferences>>desktop background
[07:07] <mrmocha> speaking of gnome, how do I install KDE?
[07:08] <_jason> !fr
[07:08] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:08] <_ian_> synaptic
[07:08] <tonyyarusso> mrmocha: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:08] <_ian_> install the kde desktop
[07:08] <regeya> !tell mrmocha about kde
[07:08] <dooglus> ejofee: try this command: "apt-cache search timer | grep timer"
[07:08] <ejofee> mrmocha: there must be a kde metapackage
[07:08] <dooglus> mrmocha: install "kubuntu-desktop" for the whole shebang
[07:08] <pat_> ok y go to change tanck et good day
[07:08] <ejofee> dooglus: thanks. (i am new to the apt-get system.)
[07:09] <_ian_> _jason im already using the accoun that is still working
[07:09] <dooglus> ejofee: I expect there's a better way of using apt-cache than piping the output through 'grep' to narrow it down, but I never got around to learning it
[07:09] <mzinz_165> I just installed Opera but it isn't showing up in my Applications... How can I make a shortcut appear?
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> While Windows users may object that (until Dapper) we don't have "click to instal", I'm thinking the whole apt thing is pretty sweet.
[07:10] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: synaptic is "click to install" isn't it?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Open the menu editor, and add an item.
[07:10] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, where is the menu editor
[07:10] <_jason> _ian_: add the other account to the admin group.  'adduser the_other_account_name admin'.  I'm off to bed now, ask these other kind people in the room if you get stuck
[07:10] <mrmocha> thanks everyone!
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Well, it that respect sort of.  I meant with things like downloaded debs.
[07:11] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: oh, i see
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Urm, either right click in the panel by Applications, or it might be over in System > somewhere.
[07:11] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, thanks
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I was checking out screenshots of gdebi a while ago though, and that seems to solve that last bit too.
[07:13] <_ian_> Adding user `iantec' to group `admin'...
[07:13] <_ian_> Done.
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> So with irssi, are you notified to go looking for the window when you get a pm?
[07:13] <_ian_> ok what do i do next?
[07:15] <_jason> _ian_: you should be done, try the other account
[07:15] <scanwinder> i just installed gtk-gnutella in ubuntu and its saying im behind a firewall, do i need to open a certain port to get it to work? if so, what port would i need to open and how?
[07:15] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you should see a pink number in the bottom line
[07:15] <Sohmc> Thanks everyone for your help...hopefully things will look better tomorrow morning
[07:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you can switch to it by using control-n and control-p or by using alt-5 (or whatever the number is)
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Got it.
[07:16] <dooglus> the alt-<number> is quite nice once you get used to it
[07:16] <intelikey> 
[07:16] <dooglus> the same works for gnome-terminal tabs, and firefox tabs
[07:17] <mzinz_165> Where can I find the menu editor?
[07:17] <_ian_> yes its working again thanks so much ill be back alter for another prob eheheh thanks!
[07:17] <intelikey> ah gnome-menu-editor ?
[07:17] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, another problem i have is that I don't even know where i can find an opera icon.  To exec it I have to type opera in terminal
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I'm loving the tabbing concept for everything.  That and workspaces and virtual terminals.  I can do so much at once with everything...
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: /usr/share/pixmaps I believe.
[07:18] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I never really found a use for workspaces - maybe I just didn't stick with them enough
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Let me get into Gnome and check that and the menu editor location.
[07:18] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, and since i exec it through terminal, whenever i close the terminal it quits opera, is that normal?
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: I like them for when I'm working on some stuff, and it's getting cluttered, and I want to run some other things briefly that are unrelated.
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Yes.
[07:19] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i type opera, and it gives me a couple errors saying how my plugins don't work right, and it won't let me type anything else without killing the command/opera
[07:19] <intelikey> mzinz_165 yes a controlling terminal will/should kill what ever is running in it, upon close.
[07:20] <mzinz_165> intelikey, thanks
[07:20] <nomidnes> Hi, I am having problems with a comp freezing on bootup at starting hotplug...
[07:20] <intelikey> mzinz_165 ^Z to background that process and use   fg to bring it back to the front.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Not sure about the plugins.  I primarily use Firefox.
[07:21] <intelikey> ^Z == [ctrl] +z
[07:21] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i want to use FF, but i was trying to upgrade to 1.5 and something went wrong
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Also not finding the menu editor where I thought it was, only through right-clicking the Ubuntu icon.
[07:21] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, now when i try to run it it says it can't execute child process.... any idea how to revert or fix?
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Do you know what?
[07:21] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, ?
[07:21] <intelikey> that's now to put shell commands to sleep   you ^Z them   lol
[07:22] <intelikey> s/now/how
[07:22] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, that will work fine, thanks for that :)
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: I'd suggest reinstalling 1.07 through apt, which will fix relevant changes to links, remove the 1.5 directory, and start over.
[07:22] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, how do i add opera if i don't know where an icon is? :/
[07:22] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, ok, how do i do it through apt?  Thanks so much for all this help.  This is exactly how i like learning ubuntu :)
[07:24] <iantec> thanks again bye
[07:24] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, the icon isn't in pixmaps
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: You can add a menu item without an icon, you'll just need to path to the executable.
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Yeah, I'm not finding an icon either.
[07:24] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, maybe i could DL one and toss it in therE?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: That would work fine.
[07:24] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, So.  apt-get remove firefox?
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: No, that'll break stuff.
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: sudo apt-get install --reinstall firefox is better.
[07:25] <Orborde> How can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?
[07:25] <nomidnes> Is there any reason an isa video card would not work (with server install)?
[07:25] <intelikey> mzinz_165 you do realize that an 'icon' is just a small digital pictuer.  it doesn't "do" anything.    you make a shortcut to the executable file and apply the 'icon' picture for visual idintification (eye candy)
[07:25] <mzinz_165> oh ok
[07:25] <mzinz_165> intelikey, yeah i realize that, thanks though
[07:26] <mzinz_165> intelikey, im just bad with unix, not regular stuff like that hehe
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Let me know if you find a good icon.
[07:27] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i do
[07:27] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, well
[07:27] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, could i just use the one from the exe?
[07:27] <bienve> Relampago
[07:27] <intelikey> mzinz_165 the reason i mentioned it, is asking where an icon is when you are wanting the executable kinda makes people look down their noses at you; for some strange reason....
[07:27] <bienve> estas jodiendo con linux bro ?
[07:27] <nbound> !es
[07:27] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:28] <Orborde> nomidnes: I don't think the server install puts an X server on, and very few video cards totally fail at using the Linux framebuffer.
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Which?
[07:29] <mzinz_165> intelikey, i dont want the exe, i want the icon itself so i have an icon to display on my menu.
[07:29] <intelikey> Orborde some do tho.  and framebuffering can be disabled with vga=  at the boot prompt.
[07:30] <BetterButterBudd> Folks, I'm just popping in, but could someone point me to the minimum hardware requirements of Ubuntu?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: http://www.psypress.co.uk/common/images/psypress/rss/opera.gif
[07:30] <nomidnes> Orborde/intelikey: Can I boot the system with no video card?
[07:30] <intelikey> mzinz_165 yes tonyyarusso answered that the first time you asked....  way up ^ there.
[07:30] <nbound> BetterButterBudd, a 386, and very little ram, but thats depending on what u want on it i spose
[07:30] <Orborde> intelikey: I'd say to jump off that bridge when we come to it, though.
[07:30] <BetterButterBudd> How's 24 MB?
[07:31] <Orborde> nomidnes: Yes, you can. Though you'll probably want a video card for the first boot so you can see what you're doing as you configure stuff like SSH.
[07:31] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i reinstalled firefox and it still gives me the same error: cannot execute child process
[07:31] <Orborde> nomidnes: Once you have SSH running, you don't need a video card.
[07:31] <nbound> BetterButterBudd, hmmm it'll prob run slow (i have 1GB myself), how fast is ur proc?
[07:31] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, cannot execute child process, no such entry or directory
[07:31] <BetterButterBudd> 133 mhz.
[07:31] <nomidnes> Orborde: I've tried before and it doesn't seem to want to boot..., Might be the onboard cards its trying to use - which is crap
[07:32] <Myconid3> does ubuntu come with nvidia video drivers?
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Does it say which process it's looking for?
[07:32] <nbound> BetterButterBudd, well i wouldnt recommend it, but id imagine it would work
[07:32] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, but for some reason, when i clicked on that link you gave me firefox opened
[07:32] <Orborde> nomidnes: Could be.
[07:32] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i think the link in my menu may be looking for 1.5
[07:32] <cafuego> BetterButterBudd: You'll want to probably run a late 2.2 kernel system on that. Certainly _not_ Ubuntu, if you want X.
[07:32] <Orborde> nomidnes: How far does it get?
[07:32] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, actually im pretty sure that the problem
[07:32] <BetterButterBudd> Okay... I'll fool around with other distros, I gues.
[07:32] <nomidnes> Orborde: better question is: I have already installed and configured the machine... Is there a way to disable the video card usage?
[07:32] <nbound> Myconid3, not good ones :p theres a package u can dload, or u can compile ones from nvidia
[07:32] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: That could very well be.  Check what the launcher points to.
[07:32] <cafuego> BetterButterBudd: Try debian potato, that should be just fine.
[07:32] <_particle> yo
[07:33] <quad_> How do I view my system details, such as RAM, CPU, etc...?
[07:33] <cafuego> Oha ctually, woody would be okay too.
[07:33] <cafuego> quad_: cat /proc/cpuinfo; free; lspci
[07:33] <_particle> Is there a guide for upgrading xorg to 7.0 on Ubuntu 5.10?
[07:33] <_particle> I hear it is faster
[07:33] <intelikey> quad_ also  df -h
[07:33] <quad_> cafuego, thank you
[07:33] <cafuego> _particle: It won't be faster when it stops working, which is what will most likely happen.
[07:33] <Orborde> nomidnes: You could unplug the video card? Can you log into it via SSH?
[07:34] <_particle> cafuego: I suppose I can wait until April
[07:34] <BetterButterBudd> (Yeah, thanks a lot! I'll look into it.)
[07:34] <cafuego> _particle: I haven't seen 7.0 in dapper yet
[07:34] <_particle> cafuego: I would be surprised if it goes gold w/o it
[07:34] <nomidnes> Orborde: Normally the machine boots ok, but when I swapped to the isa card it stopped working... It stops at hotplug
[07:34] <cafuego> 6.8.2-77
[07:34] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: potato?
[07:34] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: spud
[07:34] <ejofee> could somebody please help me understand this ?: Propagation of covered works is permitted without limitation provided it does not enable parties other than you to make or receive copies. Propagation which does enable them to do so is permitted, as "distribution", under the conditions of sections 4-6 below.
[07:35] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I realise potato is old, but it's designed for (and on) machines with low ram and slower cpus.
[07:35] <Orborde> nomidnes: I think you've gone over my head. I'm not sure whether you'd need to reconfigure to do a swap like that, or what.
[07:35] <ejofee> (it's from the first draft of gpl 3)
[07:35] <nomidnes> Orborde: if i unlpug the card the machine will not boot correctly and has a kernel panic at the very initial boot
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: Ah.
[07:35] <Orborde> nomidnes: Yes, I think I'm out of my depth now. Sorry.
[07:36] <BetterButterBudd> Hmm... none of the mirrors seem to have anything older than woody.
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> ejofee: Translation: "Give up and find a lawyer if you want to know what this means."
[07:36] <cilkay> Hello. I'm trying to run kynaptic on Breezy. I get prompted for the root password. When I enter the same password that works for root everywhere else, kynaptic claims it's the wrong password. What gives?
[07:36] <intelikey> looks like it says if you intend privet use it is free else it has terms attached ejofee
[07:36] <nomidnes> Orborde: thanks for the help.. I think I might need help from someone that knows about the boot order/config files and the kernel configs + pci/isa setup on ubuntu, its over my head aswell
[07:37] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, how do i tell? through menu editor and look at command?
[07:37] <intelikey> personal use maybe i should say.
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Yeah.
[07:37] <grndslm12> anybody here know much about window managers or how to easily manipulate windows...
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> What's a good command-line alternative to Gaim?
[07:37] <grndslm12> specifically, i have a dell 2405fpw, and i'd like all windows to first maximize....and if i hit the restore button (between minimize and maximize), i'd like it to use the maximum heighth and half of the width.....and "snap-to" the left or right half of the screen (this would be similar to "throwing" a window onto the second screen
[07:38] <quad_> cafuego, how did I view the free/used RAM amount again?
[07:38] <cafuego> quad_: 'free'
[07:38] <cafuego> quad_: See also 'top'.
[07:38] <ejofee> intelikey: oh, it now makes some sense to me (i have to reread the context plus some definitions).
[07:38] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, firefox %u
[07:39] <ejofee> intelikey: thanks
[07:39] <intelikey> np
[07:39] <cafuego> quad_: Alternatively, there should be a System Monitor in your Apps -> System menu
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: which firefox
[07:39] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i only had one link to begin with
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: (Tell me the output of that.)
[07:39] <ejofee> intelikey: i think it's some sort of systematically legalese way to put things, that's why it confused me
[07:39] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, then someone was going to try and help me switch what the link pointed at i think with some commands i didn't recognize
[07:39] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, then when it didn't work
[07:39] <intelikey> yes indeed.
[07:39] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i had no way to make either one work, and now im here
[07:40] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, whats the %u mean?
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Refers to the current user.
[07:41] <intelikey> kinda like $USER
[07:41] <_particle> man I love gdesklets
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Have you tried 'which firefox' yet?
[07:43] <intelikey> hmmmm i have three other systems i could shut down now...
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> I want to see how far going through that linking got.
[07:43] <_particle> how many hugs are you wantin'
[07:43] <intelikey> lol
[07:43] <_particle> everybody just gets two free ones
[07:43] <intelikey> yeah....  ;)
[07:44] <mzinz_165> what do you mean 'which firefox'
[07:44] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, what do you mean 'which firefox'
[07:44] <intelikey> type that in a term mzinz_165
[07:44] <mzinz_165> intelikey, k
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> What's a good command-line alternative to Gaim?
[07:45] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, it just goes to next line in term
[07:45] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, no output
[07:45] <jariep1_> what mail package is easy to configure
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Well isn't that interesting...
[07:45] <jariep1_> mua
[07:45] <Myconid3> does linux have a fast user switching fucntionality such as macos and windows have?
[07:45] <intelikey> tonyyarusso tik ?
[07:45] <tonyyarusso> Myconid3: Applications > System > New Login
[07:45] <ejofee> intelikey: yet... what is then the meaning of "propagation", in this context... "Propagation of covered works is permitted without limitation provided it does not enable parties other than you to make or receive copies."
[07:46] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, indeed
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Will that do multiple protocols?
[07:46] <jariep1_> why was the mail user agent removed from ubuntu 5.10?
[07:46] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: You do have something that works for starting firefox right now, right?  Can you figure out what it's running?
[07:47] <mzinz_165> yeah hang on
[07:47] <intelikey> tonyyarusso i never used it. just did a search for aim    apt-cache search aim
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: (Just in case that was a simple error, that should have gone into the terminal without the quotes.)
[07:47] <mzinz_165> lol the only way ive got it to work was when you linked me and i clicked on it
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: Ah.
[07:47] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i know :)
[07:47] <intelikey> you can read all about it with apt-cache show
[07:47] <cafuego> jariep1_: What?
[07:47] <qsrv> hi
[07:47] <mzinz_165> www.google.com
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Figured.  Thought I'd check though.
[07:48] <cafuego> Myconid3: The new Ubuntu 6.04 will have an even better one :-)
[07:48] <pl_ice> yello :)
[07:48] <jariep1_> well, I guess i better ask my newbie question, how do I get email working in ubuntu?
[07:48] <pl_ice> !firefox
[07:48] <intelikey> tony apt-cache show tik
[07:48] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, right there i right clicked>open in web browser, and FF1.07 came
[07:48] <cafuego> jariep1_: Pick a mail client, set up an account.
[07:48] <jariep1_> cafuego, no i mean mail server
[07:48] <qsrv> I've got a strange problem with evolution. When I start it, it connects to the email servers (gmail for example), gets the number of messages and then does nothing.
[07:48] <cafuego> jariep1_: The default is Evolution, which sould be in your Intrenet Applications menu.
[07:48] <cafuego> jariep1_: Ah. postfix is installed, but not configured.
[07:48] <qsrv> It just sits there telling me it's getting message 1 of n
[07:48] <_particle> what's better--NetBeans or Eclipse?
[07:49] <nomidnes> Eclipse
[07:49] <jariep1_> cafuego, is postfix hard to get configured and operational?
[07:49] <pl_ice> u guys seen where is firefox 1.5 or higher, my respo got 1.0.7 ... i've enabled backports etc
[07:49] <intelikey> you guys have got to learn apt-cache    why use debian based system if you don't learn how to use it.
[07:49] <_particle> will eclipse do mono?
[07:49] <cafuego> jariep1_: Nope, not at all. 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure postfix'
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: But do you know the path to the executable?
[07:50] <jariep1_> ok
[07:50] <nomidnes> _particle: yeah it will
[07:50] <_particle> cool
[07:50] <_particle> I smell some ports
[07:50] <cafuego> jariep1_: ... just answer a few simple questions and off you go. You can also tweak it later by editing /etc/postfix/main.cf
[07:50] <nomidnes> _particle: see http://www.sitepoint.com/print/get-started-mono
[07:50] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, oh
[07:51] <cilkay> I installed Breezy using debootstrap. The root account was enabled by default. In fact, there was no root password when I booted the first time. No matter what password I use for Kynaptic, it tells me I have the wrong one. Apparently, kynaptic expects sudo to be used. When I attempted to run "sudo kynaptic" and entered my regular user's password, kynaptic didn't even start. How do I get Kynaptic to work?
[07:51] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, is there any way to find that through FF?
[07:51] <nomidnes> _particle: or better http://www.gotmono.com/docs/ide/eclipse.html
[07:51] <cafuego> !find kynaptic
[07:51] <jariep1_> cafuego, I just need to get dyndns working, since i have dynamic IP
[07:51] <ubotu> kynaptic: (Graphical package manager), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 1:0.55+cvs20050115-0ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 288 kB, Installed size: 1112 kB
[07:52] <_particle> I've yet to find a decent guide--maybe one of these will do
[07:52] <cafuego> jariep1_: There should be prepackaged dyndns clients you can use. Also make sure your ISP isn't blocking port 25.
[07:52] <jariep1_> ok
[07:52] <cafuego> ... which they might be.
[07:53] !lilo:*! Hi all. Note: we have an unofficial support channel here on freenode ( ##xen ) for the Xen server virtualization project. It's a small but growing channel---if you'd like to help out, it's a bit quiet this time of day. Please stop by. Thanks! :)
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Not that I'm aware of.
[07:53] <cafuego> Coz otherwise i should have received 'connection refused' by now.
[07:53] <dooglus> cilkay: you can lock the root password so it's like it "should" by using "sudo passwd -l".  I suggest using sudo to do it so you can be sure you're not losing root access.
[07:53] <jariep1_> cafuego, ok
[07:53] <cafuego> jariep1_: So you might be out of luck :-(
[07:53] <intelikey> hmmmm spam for ircops   .....
[07:53] <intelikey> that's new.
[07:54] <cafuego> infra red cops?
[07:54] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, hmm
[07:54] <intelikey> not ir cops  irc ops
[07:54] <cilkay> dooglus: I don't really want to use sudo every time I want to execute something as root. I'm fine with using a root shell when necessary.
[07:55] <cafuego> cilkay: Well, run 'sudo -s' for a root shell.
[07:55] <intelikey> or sudo -
[07:55] <dooglus> cilkay: I've heard rumours that having a root password set breaks some gui apps.  maybe that's the problem you're having.  try enabling sudo, locking the root password, and seeing if things get better.  you can always go back to how you are now after.
[07:55] <intelikey> or sudo bash   even
[07:56] <cilkay> cafuego: the issue is not that I can't get a root shell. I can get one no problems.
[07:56] <cilkay> dooglus: that would be an interesting bug. I'll try that, thanks.
[07:56] <intelikey> dooglus where did you hear thos rumours ?
[07:56] <adriyelz_sleepie> night everybody
[07:58] <intelikey> :)
[07:58] <adriyelz_sleepie> using root is a bad idea, using GUI apps in Gnome anywhere near your config files is a worse idea, thats the honest truth
[07:58] <Orborde> nomidnes: Wait...it's ISA? That just clicked. It could be that ISA isn't supported in the 2.6 kernel, but I really have no idea.
[07:58] <adriyelz_sleepie> certain Gnome apps will mangle your configs, having them running under root gives them that power, Ubuntu has root disabled by default, don't be stupid, its to protect you from yourself
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> intelikey: In here, just the other day, people were talking about that problem with root and GUI apps.
[07:59] <adriyelz_sleepie> tonyyarusso, thats been around for forever and a half
[07:59] <adriyelz_sleepie> avoid using nano on your configs too
[07:59] <Orborde> Repeating for the bazillionth time, sadly...How can I set up power settings such as turning my hard drive off after some idle time?
[07:59] <adriyelz_sleepie> I have to go take a shower, because I stink, so I am gonna go, ttyl
[07:59] <intelikey> root is disabled  eeh  ?????    lol
[08:00] <Terminus> adriyelz_sleepie: what's wrong with nano?
[08:00] <intelikey> that's a good one...  :)
[08:00] <adriyelz_sleepie> intelikey, disabled not in a literal sense, but its not presented either
[08:00] <owner> intelikey try sudo su
[08:00] <adriyelz_sleepie> GAH, must take a shower
[08:00] <intelikey> not presented ?   what do you mean ?
[08:00] <owner> inteli type sudo su in a terminal
[08:01] <intelikey> owner why ?   i know how su and sudo work.
[08:01] <owner> sudo su shows a root shell
[08:02] <dooglus> owner: sudo su is silly.  just "sudo -i" or "sudo -s" will work, and won't run an extra su process that you don't need
[08:02] <intelikey> and my sudoers file says  root ALL=(ALL) ALL
[08:02] <jariep1_> cafuego, you still there?
[08:02] <intelikey> other than the lectures line thats all that it says...
[08:03] <jariep1_> how do i run email through dynamic IP using DynDns?
[08:03] <dooglus> intelikey: I heard the rumours in here, I'm pretty sure.
[08:03] <dooglus> intelikey: I'll see if I can dig up the logs if you're interested
[08:03] <owner> both work doog
[08:03] <intelikey> yeah i think the origenator of it may have spoken on it just a minute ago.
[08:04] <dooglus> owner: yes.  but "sudo su" is slower and uses more memory
[08:04] <owner> must be a tiny amount but point taken..
[08:04] <intelikey> besides sudo *  would error out for me.
[08:04] <owner> dooglus im curious whats the difference between sudo -i and sudo -s
[08:04] <intelikey> so you could say my sudo is disabled
[08:04] <underscore_> oh snap
[08:05] <underscore_> I accidentally chmodded my /
[08:05] <underscore_> dir
[08:05] <underscore_> ;'/
[08:05] <dooglus> owner: "sudo sudo sudo sudo sudo su" works too.  if you like running extra processes for no reason, maybe you'll find it usefu
[08:05] <underscore_> How do I fix it?
[08:05] <underscore_> lolol
[08:05] <dooglus> l
[08:05] <intelikey> chmod 777 /   as root underscore_
[08:05] <Steil> heh
[08:05] <underscore_> well
[08:06] <underscore_> Gah
[08:06] <dooglus> owner: "sudo -i" sets the environment up for root, "sudo -s" leaves the environment alone
[08:06] <dooglus> owner: so if you do a "cd" after "sudo -i", you'll go to root's home directory
[08:06] <intelikey> just -  works also
[08:06] <underscore_> -bash: chmod: command not found
[08:06] <dooglus> owner: whereas if you do a "cd" after "sudo -s", you'll go to your home directory
[08:06] <intelikey> sudo -
[08:06] <owner> ok
[08:06] <dooglus> intelikey: you sure?
[08:06] <dooglus> $ sudo -
[08:06] <dooglus> sudo: '-' requires an argument
[08:06] <intelikey> try it.
[08:07] <owner> is there anything a sudo -i shell cant do that a su shell can
[08:07] <owner> ?
[08:07] <cafuego> owner: No, because they're identical.
[08:07] <underscore_> brb
[08:07] <intelikey> oh no only su -    sorry my bad
[08:07] <cafuego> (ie: unrestericted root shells)
[08:07] <owner> sudo -i can be used without enabling the root account in ubuntu
[08:08] <owner> hence enabling it isnt need that means
[08:08] <underscore_> Well
[08:08] <underscore_> I clicked
[08:08] <intelikey> i haven't used sudo enough to keep up with it.
[08:08] <underscore_> 'run as different user'
[08:08] <underscore_> 'root'
[08:08] <underscore_> and everything disappears unless I alt tab.
[08:08] <cafuego> !enter
[08:08] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[08:09] <underscore_> Would restarting without shutting down hurt anything badly?
[08:09] <cafuego> underscore_: What, hitting reset?
[08:09] <cafuego> Not likely
[08:09] <owner> !ubotu
[08:09] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> Any ideas why suspend/hibernate would not be working/how I could find out what the problem is?  (They have worked on a previous installation on the same machine.  ThinkPad T43)
[08:10] <vskye> ubotu - please....
[08:10] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, vskye
[08:10] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: The machine wants to be mine, that's why it's being difficult.
[08:10] <underscore_> I'll brb.
[08:10] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso, just wondering if you have tried ibm-apci
[08:10] <intelikey> enabling / disabling     bah.    root is not "disabled" or you simply could not use it.      symantic i suppose but i wish people would not say root is disabled.           on a system that has no root password  run  apt-get remove sudo  and your root account will be affectively disabled.
[08:11] <underscore_> What is chmod +x?
[08:11] <vskye> ubotu - ;)
[08:11] <ubotu> I don't know, vskye
[08:11] <owner> inteli the account is locked but root does exist
[08:11] <owner> obviously
[08:11] <owner> ubuntu copied mac osx
[08:11] <underscore_> Brb.
[08:12] <enyc> underscore_: in a file x = eKecutable flag
[08:12] <intelikey> late hes gone.
[08:13] <enyc> underscore_: chmod +x switches on all the X flags essentially
[08:13] <cafuego> late hes gone 2.
[08:13] <intelikey> :)
[08:13] <enyc> o
[08:13] <enyc> darn
[08:13] <cafuego> `man chmod' is more succinct ;-)
[08:14] <intelikey> well now how to make my sound work.... ?
[08:15] <owner> inteli you dont have sound?
[08:15] <intelikey> hehhe this ubuntu system doesnt  :)
[08:16] <intelikey> i have a /dev/dsp  but it isn't hooked to the speakers or something
[08:16] <kevix> anyone know where to find the changelogs of an ubuntu package
[08:16] <owner> inteli try killall esd in terminal
[08:16] <intelikey>  /usr/share/docs    maybe ?
[08:16] <Sp4rKy> hi
[08:16] <owner> and change audio output to alsa
[08:16] <intelikey> esd ?
[08:16] <intelikey> lol
[08:17] <intelikey> console only i doubt that esd is running
[08:17] <Sp4rKy> anyone have a 8252/855 video card using the i810 driver ?
[08:17] <vskye> intelikey - fire up kmix and set you're volumes up
[08:17] <dooglus> intelikey: the root account *is* disabled by default in ubuntu.
[08:17] <dooglus> intelikey: what that means is that the root password is locked, so that logins as root are impossible
[08:17] <owner> but you can sudo -i
[08:17] <dooglus> intelikey: the "passwd" man page explains it as follows: -l, --lock :  Lock the named account. This option disables an account by changing the password to a value which matches no possible encrypted value
[08:18] <thisplayer> hello...anybody familiar with mysql on ubuntu?
[08:18] <kevix> intelikey could you pick any package and look to see if you find a changelog entry and it has any @ubuntu address
[08:18] <Nivko> Hi
[08:18] <Nivko> sombody active?:p
[08:18] <Nivko> somebody*
[08:18] <revdev> thisplayer: ask your question
[08:18] <cafuego> shhh ... everybody stay quiet... *snigger*
[08:18] <dooglus> owner: you can get a root *shell* using "sudo -i", yes.  but you can't *log in* as root, since the account is locked / disabled / whatever you want to call it
[08:19] <tonyyaru1so> Hrm, I must have timed out or something.
[08:19] <owner> true
[08:19] <Nivko> I have a question: I'm busy with installing a webserver with PHP and MySQL Its running perfect but: When im installing Plesk he says: Xmail not confgiured and mysqlserver how i configure it?
[08:19] <kevix> cafuego: would you as a -dev know where to find changelogs for ubuntu packages that list @ubuntu addresses?
[08:19] <Sp4rKy> i can't run the dri correctly
[08:19] <Sp4rKy> my fps is about 300
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> There we go.
[08:20] <intelikey> kevix looking
[08:20] <Sp4rKy> and the Direct rendering can't be started
[08:20] <kestaswo1k> Nivko: how's that a ubuntu question?
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r: I have it installed.  Haven't configured anything after that.
[08:20] <tonyyarusso> (ibm-acpi that is)
[08:20] <kevix> intelikey: thanks.
[08:20] <Nivko> @ kestaswo1k: Qmail and Mysqlserver isin ubuntu
[08:20] <thisplayer> i'm trying to connect to mysql through IP instead of 'localhost'...ie ( $ mysql -u root -h 192.168.0.5 -p ) ...and doing so gives me this error ( ERROR 2003: Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.1.21' (111) )...i asked #mysql ..they say its serverside...not mysql
[08:20] <ilba7r> tonyyarusso, thanx am thinking of installing it but was looking for feedback first :)
[08:21] <intelikey> kevix there is no @ubuntu in any of them
[08:21] <cafuego> Nivko: Plesk is proprietary software, ask the people you bought it from...
[08:21] <kevix> thisplayer: that is what I thought! thank you for confirming it!
[08:21] <Nivko> So i was thinking that you know how i configure qmail and mysqlserver
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> ilba7r: It worked for me before; I'm not sure what my issue is now.
[08:21] <intelikey> searching /usr now.
[08:21] <Nivko> Ye, but i have send a mail
[08:21] <Nivko> but i've i configured Mysqlserver and qmail then its work
[08:21] <kestaswo1k> this is a PLESK problem
[08:21] <cafuego> Nivko: Perhaps check its config file, see where it expects the binaries/libraries to be.
[08:21] <eobanb> Nivko, ask the Plesk people
[08:22] <ilba7r> ok thanx tonyyarusso
[08:22] <kestaswo1k> I at least dont even know what plesk is
[08:22] <kestaswo1k> let alone how to configure it
[08:22] <Nivko> I dont know where the config file's are
[08:22] <cafuego> plesk is a host control panel on web thingie
[08:22] <kevix> thisplayer: did you check that mysql is running (look at 'ps -A f' output )
[08:22] <eobanb> kestaswo1k, it's a sort of cpanel-like web frontend for various server software packages
[08:22] <cafuego> But yeah, completely proprietary.
[08:22] <eobanb> right.
[08:22] <kestaswo1k> I see
[08:22] <thisplayer> kevix: yes...because i can connect through localhost
[08:22] <Cythril> How would I go about burning MP3s into a music CD with Ubuntu?
[08:22] <cafuego> And don't even get me started on qmail ;-)
[08:23] <owner> cythril i recommend k3b
[08:23] <Cythril> Can I get that in Synaptic
[08:23] <Cythril> ?
[08:23] <owner> yes
[08:23] <eobanb> yes.
[08:23] <Cythril> Awesome, thank you. :)
[08:23] <intelikey> kevix 'grep -HiRe"@ubunut" /usr '    and it will find a few hits   not sure what you are really looking for tho
[08:24] <Nivko> ah yeh
[08:24] <dooglus> kevix: you know about the /usr/share/doc/<package>/changelog.Debian.gz files?  they have email addresses in, for example: /usr/share/doc/usbutils/changelog.Debian.gz: -- Colin Watson <cjwatson@ubuntu.com>  Wed,  2 Feb 2005 14:17:18 +0000
[08:24] <thisplayer> kevix: i did a netstat...(im not that familiar with it...but)..i noticed that port 3306 is open...but only for 127.0.0.1...
[08:24] <Nivko> I have 1 question more
[08:24] !lilo:*! TwinReverb asks us to mention his channel, ##heaven , generally intended for the more religious of our users....please feel free to stop by, and be nice :)
[08:24] <Nivko> how i can automatic start a program when the computer starts up?
[08:25] <kestaswo1k> Nivko: depends what kind of program it is
[08:25] <intelikey> init scripts Nivko
[08:25] <nomidnes> go to the sessions preferences
[08:25] <dooglus> Nivko: I add the program's name to the end of /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[08:25] <cafuego> Nivko: add a link to its startup script in /etc/rc2.d/
[08:25] <Nivko> init? where i can find it
[08:25] <thisplayer> Nivko: goto your System up top and then Preferences...then Sessions
[08:25] <Nivko> Ok
[08:25] <Nivko> Ok
[08:26] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, any other ideas?
[08:26] <kevix> thisplayer: check /etc/mysql/my.cnf it mentions 'bind address' as 127.0.0.1
[08:27] <kevix> dooglus: which packages was that ?
[08:27] <mzinz_165> intelikey, Hey, we never got the Firefox thing figured out.. any ideas of what I could try?  When I try to open Firefox through the applications shortcut it gives me a "cant execute child program" error.
[08:27] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Try making some launchers and seeing if any of them work.
[08:27] <intelikey> hmmmm you know i could turn mingetty off on tty7-24  and put an 'openvt' command in the init scripts for an auto-login console
[08:27] <mzinz_165> Should I work on that or try to just re-install 1.5 again and take it from there?
[08:28] <cafuego> !ff1.5
[08:28] <dooglus> kevix: every package
[08:28] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[08:28] <intelikey> mzinz_165 what is the shortcut line ?
[08:28] <dooglus> kevix: look in /usr/share/doc - there's a directory for every package you have installed, and each directory has a changelog.Debian.gz
[08:28] <thisplayer> kevix: do u know if i can add another address...or i must change it to the one i prefer?
[08:28] <mzinz_165> intelikey, firefox %u
[08:28] <mzinz_165> intelikey, but firefox DOES work when i click on a link in irc and 'open in web browser'
[08:29] <Sp4rKy> nobody to help me :(
[08:29] <kevix> thisplayer: dont know, never changed it.
[08:29] <luowei> hello ,everyone
[08:29] <thisplayer> kevix: hmm...i'll try both...thanks..
[08:29] <intelikey> try the full path  and without the %u and see what happens mzinz_165
[08:29] <mzinz_165> intelikey, what would the full path be
[08:29] <kevix> dooglus: then why is there no changelog.gz or ubuntu.changelog.gz?
[08:30] <The_Bilge_Rat> mornin
[08:30] <intelikey> like /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox     or something like that....   i don't have ff so you will just have to look
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: You can go ahead and try getting it again, but it would be better if you understood what it was doing now first.
[08:30] <mzinz_165> intelikey, k
[08:30] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, thought so
[08:30] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, try either which firefox or locate firefox
[08:30] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, which firefox does nothing, ill try the other
[08:31] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, it scrolled through a bunch of paths then ended back at cmd line
[08:31] <luowei> who can tell me how to use the operating system?
[08:31] <jesse_cool5> any1 know how to restart ubuntu with out actually shuting down the computer and then it turing back on
[08:31] <rendi> # apt-setup
[08:31] <rendi> bash: apt-setup: command not found
[08:31] <rendi> hellp
[08:31] <intelikey> is it not 'mozilla-firefox' ?
[08:31] <The_Bilge_Rat> which part luowei?
[08:31] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it looked for it in your path just scroll up till you find it
[08:31] <intelikey> the executable i mean
[08:31] <luowei> i'm comer
[08:31] <jesse_cool5> isnt it apt-get
[08:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> no
[08:32] <jesse_cool5> well thats the only one i know lol and dkpg
[08:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> why do you need to restart?
[08:32] <dooglus> kevix: I guess debian-based systems call their changelogs "changelog.Debian.gz"
[08:32] <luowei> who are you?
[08:32] <jesse_cool5> i c cant i restart gnome then?
[08:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> yes just hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[08:33] <dooglus> kevix: sometimes there is a changelog.gz, but there's always a changelog.Debian.gz
[08:33] <The_Bilge_Rat> itll log you out of x tho
[08:33] <jesse_cool5> yer thats fine i just couldnt remeber it i knew it was something like that
[08:33] <The_Bilge_Rat> so unless you are chatting here on a command line Id wait
[08:33] <The_Bilge_Rat> :-)
[08:33] <rendi> !version
[08:33] <ubotu> rendi: Do they come in packets of five?
[08:33] <jesse_cool5> easy enough to log back in?
[08:33] <The_Bilge_Rat> or go to a prompt and type /etc/init.d/gdm stop or start as the case may be
[08:34] <jesse_cool5> with outtyping reboot?
[08:34] <rendi> !tell me version
[08:34] <intelikey> restart ^
[08:34] <The_Bilge_Rat> should unless its your x server that is causing whatever issue there is
[08:34] <buulian> is there an install script available for upgrading firefox 1 -> 1.5
[08:34] <dooglus> kevix: on my system, the ubuntu email addresses I have in changelogs are adconrad, ajmitch, amu, bcollins, ben.collins, charles, cjwatson, daniel.holbach, daniel.stone, doko, fabbione, ian, ivoks, iwj, jani, jbailey, jeff.waugh, jriddell, lamont, martin.pitt, mdz, michael.vogt, nafallo, ogra, scott, siretart, sistpoty, slomo, tfheen, and thom
[08:34] <rendi> !what i'm running
[08:34] <ubotu> rendi: Bugger all, i dunno
[08:34] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i think i found it
[08:34] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, well i found a way to open it through term
[08:34] <rendi> what command to see my ubuntu version
[08:34] <ilba7r> great
[08:34] <The_Bilge_Rat> buulian not yet itll be in Dapper drake or whatever thayre calling 6.x
[08:35] <ilba7r> so you know now where it is installed
[08:35] <Cythril> Can someone help me with k3b?  It can't seem to burn my CDs.
[08:35] <intelikey> anyone know what package provides start-stop-daemon ?
[08:35] <kevix> dooglus: hmm. that looks like most of the folks I know.
[08:35] <revdev> Cythril: what error message are you getting?
[08:35] <mzinz_165> /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[08:35] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[08:35] <tonyyarusso> rendi: cat /etc/issue
[08:35] <buulian> why not just write a simple .sh script for that? wouldn't that get the job done
[08:35] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, /usr/lib/mozlila-firefox/firefox
[08:35] <rendi> thanks
[08:35] <ajmitch> dooglus: eh?
[08:35] <Cythril> It says: k3b: ERROR: (K3bAudioStreamer) could not write to 26
[08:35] <Cythril>  in the terminal
[08:35] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you can make a symbolic link for it in /usr/bin
[08:36] <kevix> dooglus: I'm trying to find an easy way to find those say on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: As they said.
[08:36] <The_Bilge_Rat> lots of other modules depend on the firefox modules you would break other stuff by upgrading at the moment theres an article on it somewhere on the Ubuntu site
[08:36] <jariep1_> can somebody help me with ddclient?
[08:36] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, meaning a shortcut to execute it from there?
[08:36] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, yap
[08:36] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Sort of.  It's even more so than a shortcut, but a similar idea.
[08:37] <enyc> Hrrrm
[08:37] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, whats the difference? and how?
[08:37] <jariep1_> ddclient for dyndns
[08:37] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, and is that where most 'symbolic links' are stored?
[08:37] <BoneE> |CD|Away| Reason:|Auto away after 15 Mins|
[08:37] <enyc> Thes dapper 2.6.15 k.prnel seems good ;-)
[08:37] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, sort of like program files? or am i way off
[08:37] <jariep1_> What does "Interface used for dynamic DNS servic" mean?
[08:37] <intelikey> sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox /usr/local/bin/firefox
[08:37] <enyc> '[preempt] ...
[08:37] <mzinz_165> intelikey, thanks
[08:37] <buulian> anyone interested in a script that did that?
[08:38] <ajmitch> kevix: what are you trying to find?
[08:38] <The_Bilge_Rat> did what?
[08:38] <ilba7r> intelikey, /usr/local is reserved for system admin in debian the right place is /usr/bin/
[08:38] <buulian> upgraded firefox
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: I have symbolic links all over the place, for various purposes.  Essentially with them, anything that point to that spot acts exactly as if it were referencing the file they point to.
[08:39] <intelikey> ilba7r usr/local/bin is in the path on all systems.
[08:39] <kevix> ajmitch: I am trying to find where I could find the last address of the person who made a change to an ubuntu package
[08:39] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i just made it to /usr/local, how do i move it? sudo mv /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox?
[08:39] <dooglus> ajmitch: I think he's an undercover agent for a rival distribution.  he's wanting a list of the major ubuntu developers so he can take them all out at once.
[08:39] <enyc> but the darned dapper kernel package uses a dependancy on a version oy a program that is not satisfied in breezy ;-(
[08:39] <intelikey> many third party apps install there.
[08:39] <ilba7r> intelikey, for debian is reserved for sys admin you can check it out on debian webpages
[08:39] <intelikey> hmmm i thought this was ubuntu
[08:39] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, so it is a shortcut, but can be used just like the regular executable?
[08:39] <enyc> even though changing this dep. version and rebuilding the package appears to make the package usable in breezy fine ;-
[08:39] <enyc> )
[08:39] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Yeah.
[08:40] <ajmitch> kevix: right, and you found the changelog.Debian.gz, where all the changes are recorded
[08:40] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, this is just a technicality it will work for you fine as it is now
[08:40] <Cythril> I'm curious if anyone could help me burn a CD using k3b, when I try it gives me an error.
[08:40] <ajmitch> kevix: both debian & ubuntu changes
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: You can do it for non-executables too.  If something's looking for a config file in the wrong spot, throw in a symlink there and it will be happy.
[08:40] <ajmitch> kevix: why do you want that info?
[08:40] <enyc> Cythril: hrrm I knowa  breezy kubuntu user who has error writing cds
[08:40] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, thats cool
[08:41] <kevix> ajmitch: do you follow the debian-devel mailing list?
[08:41] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, one of the things i dont get about unix is that i never know where my programs are.. is that just how it is? in windows everything is in program files (mostly), and on this it seems like they're all over
[08:41] <intelikey> could have used $HOME/bin/  just as well.
[08:41] <Cythril> I'm using plain ol' Ubuntu, not Kubuntu.
[08:41] <ajmitch> kevix: yes, sadly
[08:41] <intelikey> reserved for admin.....  like that makes a differance anyway...
[08:41] <intelikey> if you can sudo you are admin
[08:41] <mzinz_165> well, firefox works from the link in apps now, its a miracle
[08:42] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, for debian all programs that useres need are or have symbolic links in /usr/bin
[08:42] <thisplayer> kevix: i've changed..and i see that the IP registers with 3306 port, but now i think there is a permission issue, because i cannot connect for instance when i run a basic PHP script it tells me this ( mysql_connect(): Host '192.168.1.1' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server )
[08:42] <mzinz_165> intelikey, yeah, its no biggy :)
[08:42] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, whats debian
[08:42] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i get what you're saying though
[08:42] <kevix> ajmitch: well folks say they want to know how to contact the person who changed their package, and I was looking for the easiest way to find it, but I could't find it on pakcage.ubuntu.org and I'm  not on an ubuntu systtem at the moment.
[08:42] <intelikey> mzinz_165 debian.com
[08:42] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it is the distro that ubuntu is based on
[08:42] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: You can usually 'which programname' to find the executable in the normal paths.
[08:43] <Cythril> That's weird, now all of a sudden it will burn.  :o
[08:43] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, which saves time compared to 'locate' ?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: /usr/bin, /usr/sbin, /bin, /sbin for most.
[08:43] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, oh, good to know
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: If it's in one of those, yes.
[08:43] <cafuego> intelikey: debian.org *thwap*
[08:43] <ajmitch> kevix: right
[08:43] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, whats bin stand for, binary?
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> How can I make a loop in a bash script?  (Like lbl A, goto A)
[08:43] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Yeah.
[08:43] <ajmitch> kevix: changelogs for each package are available on packages.ubuntu.com
[08:44] <Nivko> As i have installed Apache in Syntaptic how i can start him?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Which is a little silly, because it's a computer, and everything's binary, but that's what they call it.
[08:44] <kevix> ajmitch: I seem to get mixed results, some there, some not
[08:44] <Nivko> As i have installed Apache in Syntaptic how i can start him?
[08:44] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, this isn't a problem at all, but when i start opera it says 'couldn't start plug-in executable "operamotifwrapper". please install motif'
[08:44] <aent> hey... mysql won't stay running on my system, when I run mysqld_safe, it says its started, then like 2 seconds later, says ended
[08:44] <aent> anyone have ideas on what the problem is?
[08:44] <cafuego> Nivko: via the init script in /etc/init.d/
[08:45] <ajmitch> kevix: they ought to all be there, got examples of missing changelogs?
[08:45] <mzinz_165> tonyyarusso, i searched for motif in the package manager and thought i installed it (or something that said it helped install motif apps), but i still get it, any idea?
[08:45] <kestaswo1k> tonyyarusso: binary as opposed to ascii
[08:45] <kestaswo1k> it's a weird difference but it makes sense
[08:45] <Nivko> Read, i wont start him not auto start
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> mzinz_165: Plugin link, perhaps?
[08:45] <Nivko> i dont know where syntaptic him installed
[08:45] <tonyyarusso> kestaswo1k: Right.
[08:45] <dooglus> ajmitch: the changelog link on http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/graphics/mplayer-nogui is broken
[08:45] <thisplayer> kevix: i've changed..and i see that the IP registers with 3306 port, but now i think there is a permission issue, because i cannot connect for instance when i run a basic PHP script it tells me this ( mysql_connect(): Host '192.168.1.1' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server ) ....[this is repost dunno if u saw it last time] 
[08:45] <intelikey> but in "linux"  whether deb or rh or any other flavour  */bin  is user apps  and  */sbin is admin apps.
[08:45] <revdev> nivko: if it's apache2: sudo apache2ctl -k start
[08:45] <ilba7r> !tell mzinz_165 about repos
[08:45] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i have all the repos
[08:46] <Nivko> ok thnx
[08:46] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, i have opera installed with no problems
[08:46] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, random
[08:46] <Nivko> revdev
[08:46] <ilba7r> i think it is libmotif let me check
[08:46] <Nivko> and how i start mysql?
[08:46] <kevix> ajmitch: hmm, I just check some for breezy and they seem there, but I had issues with dapper.
[08:46] <dooglus> ajmitch: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/ubuntu-desktop 's changelog link is broken too
[08:46] <ajmitch> dooglus: ok, I'll ask someone what's up with those
[08:46] <ilba7r> !tell mzinz_165 about opera
[08:46] <dooglus> ajmitch: maybe it's the case for all dapper packages, I don't know
[08:46] <elver> I have a SERIOUS problem. I upgraded to Dapper and now when I boot up, grub loads the kernel just fine from the Ubuntu ReiserFS partition on the SATA drive (it's /dev/sda3), but when the kernel starts loading the modules from there (option: root=/dev/sda3) it says that /dev/sda3 does not exist and drops me to a busybox shell. HELP!
[08:47] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, yes install libmotif3
[08:47] <Nivko> !tell
[08:47] <ajmitch> probably some update script not running properly
[08:47] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, from package manager
[08:47] <revdev> nivko ... i'm not sure try sudo mysqld
[08:47] <ilba7r> yap and i installed also motif-clients
[08:47] <Nivko> 060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Can't start server : Bind on unix socket: Permission den
[08:47] <Nivko> ied
[08:47] <Nivko> 060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Do you already have another mysqld server running on soc
[08:47] <Nivko> ket: /var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock ?
[08:47] <Nivko> 060118  8:47:38 [ERROR]  Aborting
[08:48] <Nivko> 060118  8:47:38 [Note]  mysqld: Shutdown complete
[08:48] <Nivko> i got that
[08:48] <Nivko> oh srry for paste
[08:48] <Nivko> sry
[08:48] <kevix> ajmitch: well it doesnt seem helpful if you can only get stable changelogs and not testing changelogs
[08:48] <revdev> nivko, mysql is already running
[08:48] <ajmitch> kevix: I know :)
[08:48] <ilba7r> !tell Nivko about pastebin
[08:48] <revdev> try logging in
[08:48] <Nivko> ok
[08:48] <macri> can any body help me with configuring Creative Live Web cam on ubuntu breezy
[08:48] <Nivko> and
[08:48] <intelikey> cafuego '<browser> debian.com'  will put you in www.<your_locale>.debian.org     that's why i say .com
[08:48] <Nivko> where is the apache dir?
[08:48] <Nivko> the configs en htdocs
[08:48] <Nivko> and*
[08:48] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i see libswt-motif3-java and libswt-motif3-jni?
[08:48] <revdev> nivko should be /var/www
[08:49] <Nivko> and configs?
[08:49] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you can not find libmotif
[08:49] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, nope
[08:49] <revdev> nivko configs are in /etc/apache2
[08:49] <kevix> ajmitch: could you let the powers that be to run what ever script more often and tell debian folks about it?
[08:49] <Nivko> and php ?:P
[08:49] <ajmitch> kevix: I can only ask, I'm not one of those powers that be :)
[08:49] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, than you need to enable some of your repos. you do not have them all enabled
[08:50] <aent> so anyone have any ideas on how to get mysql to work again?
[08:50] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, unless there is a way to reveal more.... i literally have every single one checked.
[08:50] <kevix> ajmitch: who should I possible bother^W^Wask?
[08:50] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it is in multiverse
[08:50] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i was just doing search
[08:50] <revdev> well, nivko, php.ini is in /etc/php5/apache2 ... if you've installed php5
[08:51] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, ok press reload in synaptic and search for it again. make sure multiverse is enabled
[08:51] <Nivko> i'have php4
[08:51] <ajmitch> kevix: I've asked someone, I'll try & find out sometime
[08:51] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, hang on
[08:51] <revdev> but if you installed all the right packages with synaptic, you shouldn't need to know where php is. it should just work. have you tried it?
[08:51] <Nivko> nop
[08:51] <kevix> ajmitch: thats for all the info and help!
[08:52] <Nivko> i'have installed with syntaptic: php4 module for apache mysql server and apache
[08:52] <revdev> try putting a php file in the apache's doc root and then navigating to http://localhost/whateverfile.php
[08:52] <revdev> it should work
[08:52] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, random question, nomatter what sensitivity i put in ubuntu, my touchpad is constantly sensitive.. do i need drivers? i couldn't find any
[08:53] <Nivko> ok:)
[08:53] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, on my desktop its fine with my house
[08:53] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, mouse*
[08:53] <Nivko> with sudo chown niels *
[08:53] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, sorry do not know :)
[08:53] <Nivko> i can give meself root access ?
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Congratulations to me.  I just made a $2000 alarm clock.
[08:53] <Nivko> muself*\
[08:53] <Nivko> MYSELF*
[08:53] <Nivko> :p
[08:54] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, ok when it refreshed it was working but said it couldn't get a bunch of them, possibly to network problems (that actually could be it, my wireless sucks sometimes). im refreshing again
[08:54] <intelikey> what is in /var/lib/dpkg/info/   ???
[08:55] <intelikey> do i really really need those files ?
[08:55] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, ok to prevent any problems i suggest you hood up the ehternet when you download
[08:55] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, ok it worked that time, but still no libmotif3 in description / name
[08:55] <kevix> tonyyarusso: have you tried 'festival'?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Is there a GUI for scheduling tasks with cron?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> kevix: No.
[08:56] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, can you paste the contents of this file in the pastebin for me /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:56] <thisplayer> tonyyarusso: yes..im looking for one myself...theres gnome-schedule but its not in the repos...
[08:56] <kevix> tonyyarusso: you can install it to make you computer speak stuff(like email or the time)
[08:56] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, yeah, hold
[08:56] <tonyyarusso> kevix: Sounds interesting.
[08:57] <^Ocean^> okay, Will the defualt video driver ubuntu support TV out dualdisplay for the NVIDIA Geforce2 cards,  or do i need to install the driver off the nvidia website ?
[08:57] <intelikey> anybody understands the .deb system  can i rm /var/lib/dpkg/info/*    safely ?
[08:57] <intelikey> or will that break apt ?
[08:58] <dooglus> intelikey: you need at least some of those files
[08:58] <rendi> help
[08:58] <kevix> intelikey: DONT do that!
[08:58] <rendi> dpkg: xkeyboard-config: warning - conffile `etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc' is not a plain file or symlink (= `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc')
[08:58] <rendi> dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb (--unpack):
[08:58] <dooglus> the ".prerm" and ".postrm" files are needed when you uninstall packages
[08:58] <rendi> trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml', which is also in package xlibs
[08:58] <rendi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[08:58] <rendi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb
[08:58] <rendi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[08:58] <rendi> can help me
[08:58] <intelikey> kevix lots of files are going to get rm'd  which do you sujest ?
[08:58] <vbgunz> Does Ubuntu have a crash log? Ubuntu crashed so horribly on me when I tried to "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" at about 8PM today...
[08:59] <dooglus> kevix: it keeps the pre and post inst files too - is there any need for that?
[08:59] <kevix> intelikey: why would you delete files when you dont know what they are for?
[08:59] <intelikey> space
[09:00] <kevix> dooglus: I know what they are all for, I'd never delete them. there are better alternatives.
[09:00] <tonyyarusso> thisplayer: Looks like for simple things you could use gato.
[09:00] <kevix> intelikey: if you what to delete files because of NEEDEd space, delete /usr/share/doc/
[09:00] <thisplayer> tonyyarusso: i will check that out...
[09:00] <dooglus> intelikey: you know you can "sudo apt-get clean" to make a lot of space?
[09:00] <intelikey> anything in /var should be remobable....  but there are permanant files stored there.... they should have been in lib
[09:00] <dooglus> intelikey: you're mixing /var and /tmp?
[09:01] <vbgunz> Does Ubuntu have a crash log? Where is it?
[09:01] <mzinz_165> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7309
[09:01] <intelikey> dooglus to make a lot of space you say?  lol   i did and got 200k free.
[09:02] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, should i do mark all upgrades?
[09:02] <kevix> intelikey: on my systtem, /var/lib/dpkg/info is 43 MB. if you cant spare that, you have bigger problems!!!!
[09:02] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you do not have multiverse in the regular repos. you only have it in the backports
[09:02] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, when i go to package manager and click repos they are all clicked....?
[09:02] <dooglus> intelikey: oh, fair enough.  I guess you already cleared that stuff out
[09:02] <rendi> helooooooooooo
[09:02] <intelikey> kevix no some of the files have big problems  :)
[09:02] <rendi> can hear me ????
[09:03] <rendi> mean can see me ?
[09:03] <ilba7r> !tell mzinz_165 about easysource
[09:03] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, use easy source it will generate every thing you need
[09:03] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, k
[09:03] <kevix> intelikey: how big is your hard drive?
[09:03] <thisplayer> tonyyarusso: the gato site also mentions the gcrontab
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> thisplayer: Ah.
[09:04] <rendi> helllo
[09:04] <intelikey> kevix mmmm 610m  with duel boot windows and ubuntu  :)
[09:04] <rendi> can give me command to complete remove xkeyboard-config
[09:04] <Nivko> I can give my account  root access by the command: sudo chown <account> *   ?
[09:04] <dooglus> Nivko: no.
[09:04] <Nivko> What then?
[09:04] <dooglus> Nivko: what do you want to do really?
[09:04] <intelikey> Nivko add them to group adm  or  admin  which ever you have
[09:05] <Nivko> ok..
[09:05] <dooglus> Nivko: you want to give them sudo access?
[09:05] <rendi> HELOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
[09:05] <Nivko> no
[09:05] <Nivko> i want to give myself root access:p
[09:05] <kevix> intelikey: my /usr/share/doc is 248MB and /var/lib/dpkg/info is 41MB. but the 41MB is very vital to apt. you can delete docs with no effect.
[09:05] <rendi> xlibs: Depends: xkeyboard-config but it is not going to be installed
[09:05] <dooglus> Nivko: the only account with root access is root
[09:05] <rendi> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[09:05] <dooglus> Nivko: you can set the root password if you like, but it's not recommended
[09:06] <rendi> holyshit
[09:06] <Nivko> but
[09:06] <kevix> intelikey: and as dooglus said, first do 'apt-get autoclean' or  'apt-get clean' first!
[09:06] <intelikey> kevix my usr/share/doc would use the whole partition if it was that big
[09:06] <quad_> I just installed Ubuntu, how do I make it so that im able to get firefox1.5 ie.
[09:06] <Nivko> i want to do it that i can save files to /var/www
[09:06] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, do i want packages, sources, or both?
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> !tell quad_ about firefox1.5
[09:06] <rendi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:06] <xored> i just got my new DSL and iam gonna set up my ubuntu server as a router. As far as i know, i need something like a ppp0 driver and then some settings in the iptables ( which a know right now). Can someone help me with the driver ?
[09:06] <intelikey> kevix as i told dooglus that freed up 200k of space
[09:06] <rendi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb
[09:06] <rendi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:06] <rendi> CAN HELP MEEEEEEEEEEEE
[09:07] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it is your say. for sources you need to compile them yourself
[09:07] <Nivko> dooglus: i want to do it that i can save files to /var/www
[09:07] <ztreck> no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[09:07] <intelikey> oh and i need to rm several kernel modules tooo
[09:07] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, == packages easy
[09:07] <dooglus> Nivko: you should check which group owns /var/www and add yourself to that group
[09:07] <ilba7r> :)
[09:07] <rendi> intelikey can help me
[09:07] <Nivko> and how i can check what group owns that?
[09:07] <Nivko> (Im a noob in linux :p)
[09:08] <rendi> my xkeyboard-config suck off me
[09:08] <dooglus> Nivko: "ls -ld /var/www"
[09:08] <Nivko> Ok
[09:08] <ztreck> what do i need to dl if i get the error: no acceptable C compoler found in $PATH
[09:08] <rendi> dooglus ?
[09:08] <Nivko> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www
[09:08] <Nivko> Root :p
[09:08] <intelikey> rendi  sudo apt-get -f install
[09:08] <kevix> Nivko: if you type 'id' you can see what groups you are in.
[09:08] <rendi> intelikey i have done woith hat
[09:08] <revdev> ztreck: try sudo apt-get install build-essential
[09:08] <rendi> give me errorrrrr
[09:08] <Nivko> 29(audio),30(dip),44(video),46(plugdev),104(lpadmin),105(scanner),106(admin),1000(niels)
[09:08] <Nivko> that groups
[09:09] <quad_> Which browser can I use, when the preinstalled firefox has been removed?
[09:09] <rendi> trying to overwrite `/etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml', which is also in package xlibs
[09:09] <rendi> Errors were encountered while processing:
[09:09] <rendi>  /var/cache/apt/archives/xkeyboard-config_0.6-5breezy1_all.deb
[09:09] <rendi> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[09:09] <intelikey> rendi look above the final error message for a preceeding sujestion on the possable solution
[09:09] <dooglus> Nivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"
[09:09] <dooglus> hrm
[09:09] <rendi> intelikey so the solution ?
[09:10] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, after you download the sources file. in a terminal type cp /etc/apt/sources.list /etc/apt/sources.list.original
[09:10] <dooglus> Nivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"
[09:10] <kevix> rendi: that happens when you are install a package that was not designed to be installed on your system.
[09:10] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, well its just text so could i just paste it and overwrite?
[09:11] <dooglus> Nivko: (where 'nivko' is your username)
[09:11] <Nivko> niels*
[09:11] <Nivko> :p
[09:11] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, than cp the file you downloaded to /etc/apt/ and name it sources.list
[09:11] <Nivko> ye:p
[09:11] <intelikey> sudo mv /etc/X11/xkb/rules/xfree86.xml .     randi  and try again
[09:11] <rendi> kevix what command to complete that sucks package
[09:11] <rendi> i just run apt-get upgrade
[09:11] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it is always good idea to have a backup
[09:11] <rendi> and eerrorrr
[09:11] <Nivko> But,
[09:11] <Nivko> drwxr-xr-x  4 root root 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www
[09:11] <dooglus> Nivko: I see.
[09:11] <Nivko> so www-data has no access there?
[09:11] <dooglus> Nivko: do you have a www-data group?  try "sudo adduser nivko www-data"
[09:11] <liable> tard..
[09:11] <dooglus> Nivko: we can give it access after
[09:11] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, oh, so rename the orig, then i can paste :)
[09:11] <Nivko> i have added me
[09:12] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, yap
[09:12] <kevix> dpkg --force-overwrite /path/to/file.deb
[09:12] <dooglus> Nivko: so then: "sudo chgrp www-data /var/www; sudo chmod g+w /var/www; ls -ld /var/www"
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> All right, something is hinting that it's time to get some sleep.  Bye all.
[09:12] <rendi> hillo
[09:12] <Nivko> ok
[09:12] <rendi> hello
[09:12] <rendi> hallo
[09:12] <Nivko> many commadns :p
[09:13] <dooglus> Nivko: it's a single command line - paste it all in one go
[09:13] <Nivko> drwxrwxr-x  4 root www-data 4096 2006-01-18 08:27 /var/www
[09:13] <Nivko> oh
[09:13] <dooglus> Nivko: looking good
[09:13] <Nivko> Thanks :)
[09:13] <ztreck> Now i get this error: You don't seem to have the curses headers installed
[09:13] <dooglus> Nivko: you'll have to log out and in again to really join the group, but then you'll be able to write that directory
[09:13] <Nivko> ok
[09:13] <dooglus> Nivko: do you have stuff in /var/www already?
[09:13] <kevix> ztreck: did you 'apt-get install build-essential'
[09:14] <ztreck> kevix: yes
[09:14] <Nivko> dooglus: I have 15 minutes ago apache and php installed
[09:14] <Nivko> hehe
[09:14] <dooglus> Nivko: so that's a no then?
[09:14] <rendi> !_!
[09:14] <ubotu> rendi: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:14] <Nivko> ye
[09:14] <Nivko> now i gonna test of php works
[09:14] <Nivko> (Sorry for bad english)
[09:14] <rendi> so CAN'T ANYONE HELP ME
[09:14] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, ok, backed up, and pasted over.
[09:14] <thisplayer> tonyyarusso: dont bother trying either...they're waste of space...
[09:14] <dooglus> 15 minutes is long enough to write a blog system from scratch if you believe the ruby on rails movie :)
[09:14] <kevix> you may need libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses
[09:15] <Nivko> whehe
[09:15] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, ok now close and open synaptic and reload again
[09:15] <Nivko> i'm a php scripter and mIRC :)
[09:15] <kevix> ztreck: you may need libncurses5-dev - Developer's libraries and docs for ncurses
[09:15] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, thanks for all of this
[09:15] <dooglus> mIRC?  ugh
[09:15] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, im actually having a lot of fun haha
[09:15] <Nivko> on windows :p
[09:15] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, yw:)
[09:16] <dooglus> mIRC's scripting language is possibly the most hideous of any programming language I've ever seen.
[09:16] <Nivko> ah
[09:16] <Nivko> php isn't working
[09:16] <ilba7r> rendi, ask your question if someone know the answer he will answer you
[09:16] <Nivko> i have installed the php4 module for apache 4
[09:16] <revdev> nivko what kind of error message are you getting
[09:16] <Nivko> apache 2:p
[09:16] <dooglus> I don't do PHP, sorry.
[09:16] <rendi> THANKS
[09:16] <Nivko> nothing if i request test.php i get a download msg :p
[09:17] <goodi_> can anyone tell me where are the devices stored that are checked e.g. by fsck.ext3 while booting?
[09:17] <ilba7r> rendi, and no caps it is interpretted as shouting.
[09:17] <kevix> goodi_: /etc/fstab
[09:17] <goodi_> Nivko, apache is the problem. did you add the handle for .php? did you restart apache?
[09:17] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i can't believe we had to go through all of that work though.. how do newbies figure that stuff out?
[09:17] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, maybe people like you
[09:17] <Nivko> goodi_: i dont know, im not in the config file's.
[09:17] <goodi_> kevix, hmhm - I'm using lvm
[09:17] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you should have read the repos link. :)
[09:18] <goodi_> Nivko, should be one of the above (just entered the channel - it's a guess)
[09:18] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, damn.. when i get those !tells i dont read them all the time, more just scan real fast and do what it says
[09:18] <kevix> goodi_: ok. I spoke to soon! no nothing about Lvm and other funness!
[09:18] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, but now i know
[09:18] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, in a month ago i was a newbie like you. Though i hate the termonology i am a user not newbie
[09:18] <Nivko> goodi_: can i paste on pastebin the config and can you add it plz?
[09:18] <goodi_> goodi_, :-)
[09:18] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, well you picked it up quick i guess
[09:18] <revdev> nivko: here's a guide: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[09:18] <mzinz_165> !tell mzinz_165 about Firefox1.5
[09:18] <goodi_> Nivko, the hole httpd.conf? nah - thanks - php5 php4? module? fcgi?
[09:19] <Nivko> i have installed apache2-php4 module
[09:19] <goodi_> Nivko, did you RESTART the apache?
[09:19] <Nivko> uhm no
[09:19] <kevix> ilba7r: being a newbie is not a bad thing, everyone is one once.
[09:19] <goodi_> Nivko, do it:P
[09:19] <Nivko> what was the command?:p
[09:20] <revdev> sudo apache2ctl -k restart
[09:20] <goodi_> sudo /etc/init.d/apache restart or sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart
[09:20] <ilba7r> kevix, but frankly i am a user. :) anyway do not want to start a war its a personal definition
[09:20] <maurycy> hey. anyone could recommend wireless pcmcia card that works smoothly with ubuntu linux?
[09:20] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, ok, i got motif installed, it gave me the same error but i think it might be because i had opera open when i finished installing, i probably need a restart or something.  either way im happy!
[09:21] <kestaswo1k> maurycy: which protocol? 802.11b, a, g, i?
[09:21] <Nivko> nope
[09:21] <Nivko> isnt working
[09:21] <Nivko> isnt*
[09:21] <kevix> ilba7r: there are too many wars. virtual or otherwise. help folks. and ask question.
[09:21] <Nivko> what i must do now? add a line in httpd.conf?
[09:21] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, :) follow ubotu link about opera i think you will need to install another plugin in too for java
[09:21] <kestaswo1k> I use a minitar and that works find for 802.11b
[09:21] <dooglus> maurycy: I've never found a single pcmcia device that works smoothly with any linux distro
[09:21] <kestaswo1k> needs a bit of messing around
[09:22] <kestaswo1k> dooglus: minitar did for me, and it's the only pcmcia device I've ever used with it
[09:22] <kestaswo1k> dooglus: you must have been very unlucky
[09:22] <goodi_> Nivko,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP looks kinda usefull :)
[09:22] <ilba7r> kevix, agree
[09:22] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, hehe
[09:22] <maurycy> kestaswo1k: b and g, the best
[09:22] <dooglus> kestaswo1k: maybe.  I only tried 3 or 4 devices.  I kind of gave up after that.
[09:23] <dooglus> kestaswo1k: it's a shame, 'cos wireless would be nice.  and so would being able to use my external disk, but never mind.
[09:23] <goodi_> dooglus, did you ever compiled the kernel for your pcmcia device?:)
[09:24] <cilkay> What is the KDE desktop configuration utility called in KDE 3.5 in dapper?
[09:24] <cilkay> The one that you use to change KDE themes and such...
[09:24] <maurycy> dooglus: hm. device with rj45 port that would provide the link from a wireless network would be nice too?
[09:24] <Xophilius> friends where do i ask questions about ShipIt?
[09:25] <goodi_> maurycy, a device to slap ppl over the internet, too :)
[09:26] <kestaswo1k> lol
[09:26] <Xophilius> --|blurps|--
[09:26] <kestaswo1k> whoever invents that will be a millionaire
[09:26] <goodi_> kestaswo1k, yeap!:)
[09:26] <maurycy> mhm :)
[09:26] <Xophilius> anyone knows anything about the ShipIt free CD shipment of ubuntu?
[09:26] <maurycy> kestaswo1k: so any hints?
[09:27] <kestaswo1k> maurycy: I said; Minitar
[09:27] <Nivko> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[09:27] <kestaswo1k> or Minitaur, something like that
[09:27] <kestaswo1k> it uses the rtxxxx chipset
[09:27] <Nivko> if i type that is then starting PHP and MySQL too?
[09:27] <kestaswo1k> anyhow, time to go home :)
[09:27] <maurycy> kestaswo1k: oh, sorry. missed it. any experiences with linksys wpc11?
[09:27] <Nivko> sudo /usr/sbin/apache2ctl start
[09:27] <Nivko> if i type that is then starting PHP and MySQL too?
[09:27] <goodi_> Nivko, php yes, mysql no
[09:28] <Nivko> and mysql?
[09:28] <Nivko> how i start mysql?
[09:28] <goodi_> Nivko, sudo /etc/init.d/mysql restart
[09:28] <goodi_> or start
[09:28] <goodi_> stop
[09:28] <goodi_> ..
[09:29] <goodi_> Nivko, there is almost always a script in /etc/init.d/ to start/stop/restart services
[09:30] <Nivko> ok
[09:30] <Nivko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7310
[09:30] <Nivko> as i save that as .sh is it then works?
[09:30] <goodi_> Nivko, you could just try it to find it out:)
[09:31] <Xophilius> ok looks friends, I ordered only 5 CDs throught ShipIt, but Ubuntu has sent 45 CDs to the shipping company to be shipped to me
[09:31] <Xophilius> ijust don't get it
[09:31] <liable> runge: then just fucking install debian, we will *not* support you going from ubuntu to debian.
[09:31] <Xophilius> lol
[09:31] <liable> sorry
[09:31] <xerux> Where are the C header files ? ;/
[09:32] <Nivko> goodi_
[09:32] <Nivko> look pm
[09:32] <Xophilius> Your previous requests
[09:32] <goodi_> Nivko, *hmpf* please use a paste service for such stuff :) and do it public
[09:32] <Xophilius>     * 5 CDs requested in 2006-01-16. 45 CDs approved and sent to the shipping company in 2006-01-18. Please note orders usually take from 4 to 6 weeks to deliver, depending on the country of shipping.
[09:32] <goodi_> Nivko, did you install mysql with apt-get or did you compiled it?
[09:32] <Nivko> apt-get
[09:33] <goodi_> Xophilius, can you order 5 bar of golds for me?:)
[09:33] <goodi_> bars of gold...
[09:33] <Xophilius> lol
[09:34] <Xophilius> well don't know when i order 5 things for free i get 45
[09:34] <intelikey> well i have 50m free now that should be plenty
[09:34] <Xophilius> what a luck
[09:34] <^Ocean^> dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?
[09:34] <goodi_> Nivko, did you do "sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start" or without sudo?
[09:34] <Xophilius> but the problem is the customs here
[09:34] <intelikey> !nvidia
[09:34] <ubotu> somebody said nvidia was at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[09:34] <Xophilius> since the shipment is big, they may charge me
[09:35] <Nivko> with sudo
[09:35] <WereCat> Hi there! I just tried Ubuntu for the first time yesterday and tried to install MPlayer, but couldn't find it in any repositories...Is it even available as a precompiled binary or do I have to compile it myself?
[09:36] <jariep1_> can somebody help me out with removing the password on XAMPP?
[09:36] <Nivko> hhm, i remove all webserver shit
[09:36] <Nivko> and begin over new
[09:36] <goodi_> Nivko, can you paste the output of 'ps aux | grep mysql' and 'ls -al /var/run/mysqld' to the paste service?
[09:36] <Xophilius> ok no official ubuntu guy here?
[09:36] <Xophilius> :)
[09:36] <Nivko> ok
[09:36] <Nivko> goodi_
[09:36] <Nivko> i do it in pm
[09:36] <Nivko> its a few line's
[09:36] <Nivko> 2
[09:36] <goodi_> *sick
[09:37] <goodi_> then only I can read it
[09:37] <goodi_> and I'm - im sad about this - not the guy with knowlege over everythink
[09:37] <goodi_> :)
[09:37] <goodi_> and the second command outputs?
[09:37] <Nivko> -234.fastres.net)
[09:37] <Nivko> [09:36:55]  <Nivko> goodi_
[09:37] <Nivko> oeps
[09:37] <Nivko> grep mysql' with '?
[09:38] <goodi_> Nivko, ls -al /var/run/mysqld/
[09:38] <goodi_> witout '
[09:38] <voluntario> hola!!!!
[09:38] <Nivko> done
[09:38] <dooglus> WereCat: it's in the multiverse repository, called "mplayer-386"
[09:38] <dooglus> !info mplayer-386
[09:38] <ubotu> mplayer-386: (The Ultimate Movie Player For Linux), section multiverse/graphics, is extra. Version: 1:1.0-pre7cvs20050716-0.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 3729 kB, Installed size: 8268 kB
[09:38] <goodi_> Nivko, k, check syslog for mysql (the last entries) maybe there is some more info
[09:39] <Nivko> where i can finf the log?
[09:39] <Nivko> find*
[09:39] <dooglus> /var/log/
[09:39] <goodi_> Nivko, the reason to use a paste-service instead of pming is that maybe someone other can help too:) your chances increase dramaticly :)
[09:39] <goodi_> Nivko, /var/log/syslog
[09:39] <goodi_> Nivko, almost everythink is loged to /var/log :-)
[09:40] <Nivko> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7311
[09:41] <Nivko> wtf
[09:41] <Nivko> how i go out vi
[09:41] <goodi_> Nivko, :q!
[09:41] <Nivko> q?
[09:41] <goodi_> nivo ;
[09:41] <goodi_> Nivko, :
[09:41] <goodi_> Nivko, first you enter : then q then !
[09:42] <goodi_> Nivko, first you enter : then q then !
[09:42] <Nivko> ..
[09:42] <Nivko> dont work
[09:42] <topyli> ESC first to enter command mode
[09:42] <Nivko> oh ye thanks :)
[09:43] <visik7> hi
[09:43] <Nivko> goodi_:http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7311
[09:43] <Xophilius> anyone there for help?
[09:43] <visik7> I can't see this stream rtsp://a2047.v1413b.c1413.g.vq.akamaistream.net:80/5/2047/1413/2_h264_110/1a1a1ae656c632970267e04ebd3196c428970e7ce857b81c4aab1677e445aedc3fae1b4a7bafe013/mw_2006_3_110.mov
[09:43] <topyli> !anyone
[09:43] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:44] <Nivko> !anyone
[09:44] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[09:44] <Nivko> lol
[09:44] <Xophilius> !everyone
[09:44] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Xophilius
[09:44] <goodi_> Nivko, hmhm, try sudo /etc/init.d/mysql start again - same result?
[09:44] <Xophilius> hmmm...
[09:45] <Nivko> jep
[09:45] <^Ocean^> dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?
[09:45] <Nivko> same
[09:45] <Nivko> i delete the whole webserver
[09:45] <goodi_> Nivko, aehm - how do you delete it?
[09:45] <goodi_> Nivko, how did you delete it?
[09:45] <Nivko> synaptic?
[09:46] <grodius> Hi, i'm trying to fix a windows HD by running a bootdisk of linux, can someone show me a way to access my harddrive from my live linux boot?
[09:46] <Nivko> deleting..
[09:46] <Dark_Oppressor> i just installed ubuntu and it never had me set up a root password, how do i set one?
[09:46] <goodi_> Nivko, did you just do rm?
[09:46] <Nivko> Dark_Oppressor: http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[09:46] <intelikey> i think i'll also rm /etc/alternatives
[09:46] <ilba7r> grodius, did you mount it
[09:47] <Nivko> goodi_: NO, Syntaptic
[09:47] <Nivko> Synaptic
[09:47] <grodius> ilba7r neg, how do i do that? I have forgotten alot
[09:47] <fek> moin
[09:47] <goodi_> Nivko, ah, oki hmhm try to remove mysql too then an reinstall ist - maybe somethink fucked it up
[09:47] <intelikey> i never did like all that symlink bounce anyway
[09:47] <ilba7r> grodius, you could have done that when you ran the livecd
[09:48] <visik7> http://stream.qtv.apple.com/events/jan/mw2006/m_mw_2006_650_ref.mov
[09:49] <grodius> ilba7r now im in x though, is there something i can do at this point
[09:49] <Dark_Oppressor> Nivko: thanks
[09:50] <ilba7r> grodius, you know the hard disk device name. You can try pmount /dev/hd<a b c> depending on your device name. The problem is if it is ntfs you can not securely write to it
[09:50] <grodius> I pretty much want to just format the disk
[09:52] <ilba7r> sorry grodius am not expert in that but you can man fdisk
[09:52] <nbound> grodius, us Gparted
[09:52] <nbound> use*
[09:53] <ilba7r> nbound, it is not installed by default on the livecd
[09:53] <nbound> ilba7r, ohhh, livecd=evil :P
[09:54] <topyli> grodius: unmount (if mounted) and format. how do you want to format it? i'm not sure if you can format it as ntfs in linux
[09:54] <grodius> topyli really? i tohguht you could
[09:54] <ilba7r> grodius, if you want ot format in ntfs why not use window cd?
[09:55] <topyli> grodius: well, the mkfs man page doesn't mention ntfs
[09:55] <grodius> ilba7r I believe there is a virus that is storing itself in multiple instances of "unknown disks"
[09:55] <grodius> and the windows disk wont let me delete the partitions
[09:56] <grodius> that are unknown disks
[09:56] <grodius> but there are no storage devices besides the HD on my comp
[09:56] <topyli> grodius: you can edit the partitions with linux fdisk of course. you just can't create a new ntfs filesystem
[09:58] <para> I was reading on the forums and arnieboy says that to get my webcam working i need to set a root password so i can compile the modules, but I read that setting a root password is bad for security
[09:58] <thisplayer> ~su
[09:58] <Steil> para: don't listen to him, Well his advice and his how-to guides MAY work, there are better ways to go about doing things
[09:58] <thisplayer> !su
[09:58] <topyli> para: why woudn't you be able to compile modules using sudo?
[09:58] <ubotu> Wish i knew, thisplayer
[09:59] <ilba7r> para you can use sudo before the command will give you root previlages
[09:59] <intelikey> anybody know what /etc/ld.so.cache is or why it's there ?
[09:59] <thisplayer> !root
[09:59] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:59] <para> but arnieboy says that there are some things you can't do with sudo and that i need root
[10:00] <ilba7r> para i never met a situation like that
[10:00] <topyli> para: i haven't been root in years on my systems
[10:00] <hubbadub> me neither
[10:00] <ilba7r> para go to this link to see the smart way to build packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[10:01] <thisplayer> para, u can enable then disable the root account when you are finished....read wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo
[10:01] <intelikey> para if you "want"  to set a root password, it's your system.  if you don't want to set one, it's still your system.   that is one of the great things about linux.
[10:01] <topyli> para: not only on ubuntu. i always setup sudo first thing on any system
[10:01] <para> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75284
[10:02] <topyli> phos-phoros: how smart
[10:02] <phos-phoros> I'm kidding
[10:02] <intelikey> you set it up the way you like and the guys in here scold you for it  :)
[10:02] <topyli> phos-phoros: i didn't seriously call it smart either :)
[10:02] <intelikey> heck i even irs as root          maybe....
[10:03] <intelikey> s/irs/irc/ ^
[10:03] <ilba7r> para, every person has his own way to manage stuff. If you want to enable root yo can do so and disable it. If you fear threats you can disconnect from the net while doing that
[10:03] <intelikey> or then again,  maybe not....
[10:04] <ilba7r> but basically it is not ubuntu way :)
[10:04] <Nivko|Clone> what was the command line for starting MySQL?
[10:04] <Steil> para: Try the how-to without setting the root password and I promise everything will work just fine :)
[10:04] <Steil> You don't even use root for anything there
[10:05] <para> What do you guys think about what he says? Someone argued about it and he explained why it's the only way to do it...what do you guys think?
[10:05] <topyli> para: he just doesn't know how to do it right
[10:05] <runge> liable ?
[10:05] <intelikey> i fear getting rooted more from my user account and a three letter password and they use sudo.....  far more than a 16 char root password.
[10:05] <ilba7r> para we do not bash pepole here
[10:05] <ilba7r> every one is free . It is free software
[10:06] <leboskan> hello
[10:06] <leboskan> absolute newbie requiring help
[10:06] <para> ilba7r: I'm not trying to bash him, I'm just asking if hes right or not
[10:06] <liable> runge: sorry, missfire in wrong window.
[10:07] <intelikey> so anybody know what '/etc/ld.so.cache' is or why it's there ?
[10:07] <leboskan> :( hello?
[10:07] <ilba7r> para, you can do the same process in different ways. His way is not recommended by ubuntu
[10:07] <ptlo> para in ubuntu, 99% of the time when someone says "you need to do this as root" means "run this  using sudo"
[10:07] <topyli> para: let's put it this way. if he doesn't get the environment variables right with sudo but does for root, then he just hasn't setup his environment right before compiling
[10:07] <topyli> para: no real reason there
[10:07] <depl0y> hi
[10:07] <Nivko> what was the command line for starting MySQL?
[10:08] <depl0y> Is there anyone in here, that could help me get my broadcom wireless network adapter to work with the new Ubuntu 6.04
[10:08] <Steil> depl0y: whats the problem?
[10:08] <Nivko> what was the command line for starting MySQL?..
[10:08] <depl0y> well , ubuntu detected my hardware ok, but my device cannot be activated :(
[10:08] <Steil> depl0y: to use the included bcm43xx driver you need to extract the firmware from a windows driver. Otherwise you can use ndiswrapper and a windows driver
[10:08] <para> ptlo: he said to use sudo passwd and set the root password. someone argued and I wasn't sure who was right
[10:08] <ilba7r> leboskan, ask your question
[10:09] <gavcos> nivko, /etc/init.d/mysql start
[10:09] <topyli> para: he doesn't even use root in his howto
[10:09] <depl0y> Steil : I tried that on Ubuntu 5.1 and that worked, but 6.04 supplies its own drivers for it.
[10:09] <Steil> depl0y: the ndiswrapper or the bcm43xx?
[10:09] <leboskan> :blush: i just installed breezy in my other computer, i had hoary beore and it booted right into GNOME, and this one boots with no GUI, how do i run gnome?
[10:09] <leboskan> :flame:
[10:09] <depl0y> Steil: thebcm43xx
[10:10] <depl0y> the bcm43xx
[10:10] <depl0y> leboskan: startx ?
[10:10] <leboskan> lemme try
[10:10] <skulltula> leboskan, i think something went awry with the installation.
[10:10] <goodi_> what's the name of the metapackage for the 'kernel-image'?
[10:10] <leboskan> brb
[10:10] <ilba7r> leboskan, i agree with skulltula
[10:10] <depl0y> or use "sudo rcconf" and enable the "gdm" thingy
[10:11] <Steil> depl0y: so you used to use ndiswrapper? or the bcm?
[10:11] <leboskan> startx = command not found
[10:11] <leboskan> so the instalation fucked up?
[10:11] <depl0y> on my previous install I used the ndiswrapper, on the current it detected my hardware it self and it used : bcm43xx driver 0.0.1
[10:11] <Steil> okay
[10:11] <ilba7r> goodi_, linux-image-<your platform>
[10:12] <ilba7r> leboskan, did you make a server install
[10:12] <leboskan> nope, regular
[10:12] <goodi_> ilba7r, thanks:)
[10:12] <ilba7r> goodi_, yw:)
[10:12] <para> alright i wasnt sure
[10:13] <para> thanks
[10:13] <Nivko> I cant start mysql :( Socket aleary in usage
[10:13] <goodi_> ilba7r, installed the updated kerneles, while /boot wasn't mounted - kinda annoying now :)
[10:13] <Nivko> i try later
[10:13] <ilba7r> leboskan, and it is fresh install. try reinstalling it
[10:13] <goodi_> updated kernel
[10:13] <Steil> depl0y: you need to have firmware for the card installed to use the bcm43xx. I've had troubles with it so I'll recommend you still use ndiswrapper: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=118926 Instructions are there in my post
[10:14] <Steil> You just have to rmmod the bcm43xx related modules, ndiswrapper, and reinsert ndiswrapper
[10:14] <Steil> and then you'll be back up
[10:14] <leboskan> ilba7r its the .iso that u download from the main ubuntu page... it SHOULD boot directly to a GUI and not to a console, rite?
[10:14] <depl0y> ok, lemme look at it! Thanks!
[10:14] <ilba7r> leboskan, right
[10:14] <ilba7r> goodi_, good luck do not knwo how you will fix that
[10:15] <leboskan> is there anything to the installation more than next next next and putting usernames? i had almost 0 choices
[10:15] <goodi_> ilba7r, will be fun:)
[10:15] <leboskan> maybe theres something there that im not seeing
[10:15] <skulltula> i had to reinstall ubuntu once, sometimes it just glitches.
[10:15] <mihai_> is here anyone who puts music on the ipod with ubuntu?
[10:15] <mihai_> because I think this is my 5th time a break it on ubuntu
[10:15] <leboskan> okay, ill try again
[10:15] <leboskan> thx guys
[10:15] <skulltula> there's probably a way to fix it without a full reinstall... but it would probably take less time than finding the problem to reinstall.
[10:15] <ilba7r> leboskan, it helps when you burn the cd to burn it on low speed
[10:15] <skulltula> leboskan, good luck.
[10:15] <ilba7r> 4x max
[10:16] <leboskan> skulltula thx a lotza
[10:16] <skulltula> i always burn my CDs at a high speed. sometimes i have to pay for that :P
[10:16] <mihai_> or is here anyone who can help me convert a folder full of m4a aac files to mp3. I have faad but is does not accept faad * . It stops after the first file
[10:17] <ilba7r> skulltula, i am talking about ubuntu iso cd only
[10:17] <depl0y> steil: ok , my wireless adapter is gone atm, so now I need to reinstall it with those win drivers ?
[10:17] <topyli> ilba7r: true, i made a few coasters from the breezy iso at first. burning at 4x helped
[10:17] <skulltula> ilba7r i installed that at the fastest speed my writer could go. LoL
[10:17] <Steil> depl0y: did you do a clean install of 6.04, or just upgrade 5.10?
[10:17] <B1zz> i just added a wireless card to my ubuntu system installed native drivers for it and all but the card does not like WEP when i try to get an ip it acts like its working but no succes i take wep off right away i get an IP any ideas?
[10:17] <depl0y> clean install
[10:18] <depl0y> (upgrades always cause me trouble)
[10:18] <ilba7r> skulltula, as you said your way sometimes it works sometimes it does not :)
[10:18] <topyli> depl0y: yes you need to install the driver
[10:18] <Steil> depl0y: then just install the windows drivers for ndiswrapper and you're good to go
[10:18] <hubbadub> mihai have you tried soundkonverter?
[10:19] <depl0y> ok, I'll just do it the way I did it on 5.10 :D. Thanks  a lot. Too bad this driver doesn't work yet. I was all happy when I saw that the setup detected my wlan :D
[10:19] <Steil> depl0y: You can also just try the bcm43xx drivers if you'd like. I've heard more failures than successes though.
[10:19] <mihai_> hubbadub, no
[10:19] <mzinz_165> when I open firefox it opens the old version, however if i navigate to /usr/bin/firefox it opens 1.5. how do i change my symbolic link?
[10:19] <ilba7r> B1zz try networkmanager
[10:19] <jc_blu1> hi
[10:19] <mihai_> hubbadub, because I have ubuntu, not kubuntu. if it's good I'l install it now
[10:20] <depl0y> meh, I am pretty new to linux, so that probably wont work ;)
[10:20] <topyli> mihai_: soundcorverter will just try and use faad, so it won't help. or is soundkonverter different?
[10:20] <B1zz> i did try that and it looks for ip for like a min and a half but no ip :(
[10:20] <jc_blu1> sd
[10:20] <mihai_> topyli, faad works. just I don't know how to convert the whole folder. with faad * it converts only one file
[10:20] <skulltula> anyone have the free time to help me get the foward/back buttons on my mouse fully working?
[10:20] <hubbadub> mihai it converted protected aac from the itunes store for me
[10:21] <mihai_> I want to try to restore my ipod with gnupod
[10:21] <mihai_> but most of the files are aac
[10:21] <topyli> mihai_: ok, then soundconverter should work for that
[10:21] <depl0y> but if it isnt too hard I am willing to try :), is there some help to follow on that?
[10:21] <mihai_> topyli, thanks
[10:22] <mihai_> topyli, I think I've tryed some time ago. and then it didn't work
[10:23] <skulltula> i have a logitech 510 mouse, and i followed the howto in the forum to set it up... but the foward / back buttons still only work in firefox.
[10:23] <mihai_> anyone here has an ipod?
[10:23] <mzinz_165> HELP: When I try to make a symbolic link: sudo ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/firefox it just says file exists.  What am i doing wrong?
[10:23] <cafuego> mihai_: I do
[10:23] <topyli> mihai_: or just use a for loop in bash
[10:23] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, it means there is a file with this name
[10:23] <mihai_> cafuego, and how do you sync it with ubuntu?
[10:23] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, what do i do!!!
[10:23] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, haha
[10:23] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, try ln -sf
[10:23] <mihai_> topyli, my bash knowledge is 0
[10:23] <skulltula> i tried using xbindkeys, but it didn't seem to work.
[10:23] <skulltula> any ideas?
[10:23] <cafuego> mihai_: gtkpod
[10:24] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, this will force to rewrite the file
[10:24] <mihai_> cafuego, for me is does not work right now
[10:24] <mihai_> cafuego, I only curupted the ipod about 5 times  now on ubuntu. then I go to the pc and restore it, and so on
[10:24] <mzinz_165> no error, still 1.0.7, odd
[10:24] <mzinz_165> when i /usr/bin/firefox it opens 1.5
[10:25] <mihai_> cafuego, and you have a big one? because I only have a shuffle so I need 128kbps files all the time
[10:25] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, what opens 1.0.7 for you
[10:25] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, if i type firefox in term without path, or click links
[10:25] <topyli> mihai_: so is mine, so i always google for suitable oneliners :)
[10:25] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, there is another symbolic link mozilla-firefox some programs use it
[10:25] <cafuego> mihai_: I have a 30GB video pod
[10:25] <mihai_> cafuego, lucky you
[10:25] <katie_> i try and open a file with okle and it says "seems there is no disc in your dvd drive" er the whole point of "open file"
[10:26] <cafuego> not so much lucky as poor now ;-)
[10:26] <mihai_> and you put the files as you find them or convert them into something else?
[10:26] <hubbadub> my shuffle works great with gtkpod, but i do miss the auto compression to 128k that itunes does
[10:26] <mihai_> hubbadub, this is my problem too. just that I am not yet able so use gtkpod because I must convert the backup of most aac files to mp3
[10:27] <intelikey> well if i haven't completely hosed the system now,  i think i have this thing where i can live with it....
[10:27] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, solution? :/
[10:27] <intelikey> testing....  if i'm not back in 5 you'll know i borked it good....
[10:27] <cafuego> mihai_: I plonk 'em on as 192Kbit MP3s or 500Kbit MP4s.
[10:27] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, are you sure you do not have two symbolic links in /usr/bin
[10:27] <ilba7r> for firefox
[10:27] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, no.
[10:27] <katie_> anyone/
[10:28] <mihai_> cafuego, I see. Anyway in your case is preatty hard to fill it with music. But why don't you buy a mac?
[10:28] <ilba7r> ok type this ls -l /usr/bin/firefox
[10:28] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, im in /usr/bin/, how do i check
[10:28] <hubbadub> cuz macs are OVERPRICED
[10:28] <cafuego> mihai_: WHo says I don't have a mac?
[10:28] <ilba7r> will tell you what the file is linked too
[10:28] <cafuego> mihai_: I have at least  Macs in the house
[10:28] <cafuego> 9
[10:28] <Engla> so my hoary system broke, won't auto-login and fails
[10:28] <hai> hello!
[10:29] <mihai_> cafuego, and if you have a mac why do you sync the ipod with ubuntu?
[10:29] <Engla> I did the mistake of shutting down with four python packages broken
[10:29] <Engla> is this related?
[10:29] <cafuego> mihai_: Coz the mac runs Ubuntu?
[10:29] <Engla> (dumb question, but I want to know.) This is the first restart after a large batch of upgrades
[10:29] <mihai_> cafuego, why not mac os x?
[10:29] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-18 01:24 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox
[10:29] <cafuego> mihai_: too slow
[10:29] <ilba7r> the link is correct
[10:29] <cafuego> mihai_: and OSX can't run openoffice
[10:30] <mihai_> cafuego, I want to buy a mac mini or ibook just for mac os x and itunes
[10:30] <skulltula> because Ubuntu is king.!
[10:30] <ilba7r> ok type /opt/firefox/firefox and see which ver of firefox it will run
[10:30] <mihai_> skulltula, ;) it's king. but has no itunes
[10:30] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, so the command ls, when not being used to describe the contents of a dir, will give info on apps?
[10:30] <cafuego> mihai_: Ubuntu runs nicer than OSX on both of those machines. (I have one of each)
[10:30] <hubbadub> ubuntu is queen maybe, but KUBUNTU is the king :D
[10:30] <topyli> mzinz_165: i bet you have a mozilla-firefox too, linked to /usr/lib/firefox
[10:30] <olicat> hi all. does anyone know how i can tell wget to save its files in a certain location?
[10:30] <Engla> cafuego: what kind of machines (G3/G4 etc?)
[10:30] <mihai_> cafuego, I am sure that ubuntu is faster
[10:30] <mzinz_165> topyli, :x
[10:31] <mihai_> cafuego, but I am very courious in this domain
[10:31] <Merit> hi
[10:31] <mihai_> cafuego, I guess mac os x has it's advantages
[10:31] <skulltula> mihai_, i'm pretty sure you can get OSX on an x86. i dunno if it's an appropriate topic here, but you might want to google it.
[10:31] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, the new one runs
[10:31] <depl0y> where can I get more themes for ubuntu
[10:31] <cafuego> mihai_: The only reason to run OSX would be Spotlight. That's a bit faster and more stable than beagle.
[10:31] <ilba7r> ok
[10:31] <mihai_> cafuego, anyway I will not get near windows again
[10:31] <ilba7r> ls -l /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[10:32] <ilba7r> see where the link is
[10:32] <Engla> cafuego: beagle is slower? Spotlight is slow as ass
[10:32] <skulltula> deploy, try http://gnome-look.org
[10:32] <topyli> mihai_: yes you will. some people still have it :)
[10:32] <depl0y> thanks
[10:32] <mihai_> skulltula, I found a guide for this. but you need dvd and I don;t have that. and there are no drivers
[10:32] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 30 2006-01-17 22:27 /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox -> ../lib/mozilla-firefox/firefox
[10:32] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, !!!
[10:32] <topyli> mzinz_165: right
[10:32] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, if you want to learn about the ls command type man ls. It is like dir but with more capab
[10:32] <mzinz_165> topyli, called it
[10:32] <deFrysk> depl0y, sudo apt-get install gnome-themes-extras
[10:32] <skulltula> mihai_, aw well. macs are great computers anyway :] 
[10:32] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, than change the link
[10:33] <depl0y> thanks deFrysk
[10:33] <mihai_> cafuego, also I don;t know if I will be able to set up a wireless network card with ndiswrapper. I don;t really thrust that tool. don;t know exactly why
[10:33] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, so to do that i do...: ln -l /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox /usr/bin/firefox?
[10:33] <mihai_> skulltula, macs are great
[10:33] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, all that matter that you know the prob. and if you scroll up a little you find i called it first ;)
[10:33] <hubbadub> quick Q guys, can i just drag and drop fonts from a windows install to ubuntu?
[10:33] <mihai_> topyli, hate win xp . it just does everything wrong
[10:33] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, hahaha
[10:34] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, no ln -sf <target> <link name>
[10:34] <mihai_> cafuego, tryed to install more ram on the mac systems?
[10:34] <topyli> mzinz_165: delete the mozilla-firefox link, then "ln -s /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox"
[10:34] <cafuego> mihai_: No, it's already maxed out.
[10:34] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, k
[10:35] <mzinz_165> topyli, thanks.  im so new to the file structure all this is confusing still
[10:35] <ilba7r> topyli, if you use ln -sf it will overwrite. it will force it
[10:35] <Engla> I need help installing a package that won't install: python2.4
[10:35] <mihai_> cafuego, this is a bad thing :( if it's not fast enough means they make a mistake
[10:35] <topyli> ilba7r: yeah true, one command less
[10:36] <melder>     
[10:36] <cafuego> mihai_: Maybe, still it's a nice machine. It all depends on what you're used to.
[10:36] <tristan> Hello
[10:36] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i did ln -sf /opt/firefox/firefox /usr/bin/mozilla-firefox
[10:36] <mihai_> cafuego, just web development
[10:36] <cafuego> mihai_: a terminal and $EDITOR
[10:36] <mihai_> cafuego, and ipod sync ;)
[10:36] <tristan> Is there anyay to merge .wmv files or .rmvb files with Ubuntu?
[10:36] <Nameeater> morphix: and we care.. why?
[10:36] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, ok now try firefox in a terminal
[10:37] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, 1.0.7 Lol... omg
[10:37] <morphix> dunno.
[10:37] <Engla> "Error when processing : /var/path to python2.4.deb" (translated from sv)
[10:37] <cafuego> tristan: I'm sure libgd2 has support for wmf...
[10:37] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, let me verify links
[10:37] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, are you sure you do not have a link in our home directory
[10:37] <morphix> is there a way to install base ubuntu.. and then build it slowly from there?
[10:37] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, im not sure of anything
[10:37] <morphix> so it isnt all full of crap
[10:37] <skulltula> anyone know where i can get help working with xbindkeys?
[10:37] <ilba7r> try which firefox
[10:38] <Nameeater> there may be an ubuntu lite project, but Im not sure
[10:38] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 20 2006-01-18 01:24 /usr/bin/firefox -> /opt/firefox/firefox
[10:38] <morphix> i had so many problems with ubuntu
[10:38] <cafuego> morphix: yes, it's called the 'server' installation.
[10:38] <morphix> but i like ubuntu :(
[10:38] <mihai_> morphix, server install?
[10:39] <morphix> i have server 'base' install on my server pc.. i might try installing that then install openbox, etc from there
[10:39] <mzinz_165> /usr/local/bin/firefox
[10:39] <cafuego> morphix: Maybe try xubuntu-desktop (Gives you xfce4)
[10:39] <kevor> Hello, in evolution, every time i click a link, evolution scrolls the mail to the end, right at the moment i click
[10:39] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, that is your problem
[10:39] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, !
[10:39] <intelikey> well i broke it real good.... no console screen....  i think it's headless
[10:39] <morphix> is that a different distro? or just an apt-get download?
[10:39] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, so i tell that link to point to /usr/bin/firefox?
[10:39] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, try ls -l /usr/local/bin/firefox. I bet it links to the old firefox
[10:40] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, yes
[10:40] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, it does
[10:40] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, no you can safely delete it if it is symbolic link
[10:40] <topyli> morphix: you just have to make sure you install enough of X to run a desktop comfortably. perhaps x-window-system or some other metapackage
[10:40] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, whats an easy way to tell if something is a link or the actual executable? is it the color?
[10:41] <intelikey> colour is one way.
[10:41] <morphix> ok
[10:41] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, if you type ls -l and it point to some other file > then it is a symbolic
[10:41] <morphix> i might try it
[10:41] <intelikey> use ls -l  and links will have the -> real.file  appended
[10:41] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, so the first listing is the link itself and the second is what it points at?
[10:41] <ilba7r> yap
[10:42] <^Ocean^> dose the Defalt nvidia driver ubuntu install have full support, or do i need to download the nvidia driver from the nvidia website ?
[10:42] <ilba7r> !tell mzinz_165 about cli
[10:42] <hubbadub> whoa the font HOWTO on the forums kicks all kinds of ass
[10:42] <intelikey> yes and path is relative to the link    so if it says   ../file   it is  path/to/link nimus one dir.
[10:43] <hubbadub> REAL easy
[10:43] <topyli> ^Ocean^: for hardware acceleration, you need the evil driver from nvidia
[10:43] <^Ocean^> topyli: and probably the same for Twinview right ?
[10:44] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, so can i delete /usr/local/bin/firefox and re-create ln -s /usr/local/bin/firefox /usr/bin/firefox
[10:44] <topyli> ^Ocean^: i guess, dunno, how would i know? :)
[10:44] <intelikey> hmmm i wonder if i can fix this hosed box now.
[10:44] <topyli> ^Ocean^: never had an nvidia card
[10:44] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you can just delete it no other links needed
[10:44] <^Ocean^> toplyi: ahh figured u may have lol
[10:44] <mzinz_165> i did rm /usr/local/bin/firefox
[10:45] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, ok type firefox in a terminal all will be well
[10:45] <upayavir1> I ran a hoary->breezy upgrade yesterday. All seems to have worked fine, except screen doesn't wake after hibernating. Ironically I can get in via SSH (even over GPRS via my phone). Screen goes into a strange sort of 'screensaver'
[10:45] <HCl> is there a package for firefox 1.5 for ubuntu?
[10:45] <depl0y> damn, ok, my ubuntu just became VERY unstable after installing those extra themes :S
[10:45] <depl0y> I have to IRC from a win machine :S
[10:45] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, lol, i type firefox: /usr/local/bin/firefox: no such file or dir
[10:46] <topyli> ^Ocean^: i always buy old matrox cards, since i don't want any hardware troubles. i have work to do :)
[10:46] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, lol you just deleted it just type plain firefox
[10:46] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, thats what it says when i type firefox
[10:46] <mihai_> HCl, ubuntuforums
[10:46] <HCl> mzinz_165: restart your shell, it has firefox still cached.
[10:46] <HCl> k.
[10:46] <mzinz_165> HCl, how
[10:46] <HCl> i dunno, just restart your terminal? o.o
[10:46] <ilba7r> close it
[10:46] <ilba7r> and open it again
[10:47] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, command not found
[10:47] <mihai_> HCl, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[10:47] <HCl> thanks :)
[10:47] <depl0y> let's hope removing those themes helps
[10:47] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, did you play with your path
[10:47] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, maybe
[10:47] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, haha
[10:47] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, that is why
[10:48] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, in a terminal type $PATH
[10:48] <pje> martii, wake up :)
[10:48] <ilba7r> if it does not have /usr/bin than that is your problem
[10:48] <mzinz_165> bash: /usr/local/bin:/usr/local/sbin:/sbin:/usr/sbin:/bin:/usr/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games: No such file or directory
[10:48] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, damn it does
[10:48] <Nameeater> how can I have nautalis show the location bar all the time?
[10:48] <ilba7r> try /usr/bin/firefox
[10:48] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i know i didn't delete the actual thing though,.. all i rm was that one ln
[10:49] <quad_> !tell quad_ thunderbird
[10:49] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, no such file/dir
[10:50] <quad_> hmm.. how was it?
[10:50] <Harun_der_Player> heyy leute
[10:50] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, = delete
[10:50] <cafuego> hey deutsche
[10:50] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, than you deleted it
[10:50] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, oh well i can do it again
[10:50] <Harun_der_Player> mit welchem programm kann man passwrter knacken
[10:50] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, im learning
[10:50] <upayavir1> any ideas how I can bring back my screen after hibernating via SSH? What might have gone wrong during hoary->breezy upgd to make hibernate break?
[10:50] <Harun_der_Player> weis das jemand
[10:51] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, thats weird i could have sworn i typed ls and saw the link
[10:51] <Harun_der_Player> what is los hier
[10:51] <Seveas> !de
[10:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:51] <intelikey> ah man....  still hosed....  error reads  /etc/rcS.d/S48console-screen.sh; line 201; /dev/tty1; no such file or directory .....  crap!
[10:51] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, you know ln <target> <link name>
[10:51] <Harun_der_Player> ihr penner sag doch mal jetzt
[10:52] <Harun_der_Player> ich will hacken
[10:52] <ilba7r> if you do it the other way you del your target file
[10:52] <Seveas> ugh
[10:52] <ilba7r> scroll up to see what you typed
[10:52] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, maybe i was reading links backwards
[10:52] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?
[10:53] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, i rm'd the wrong one
[10:53] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, silly silly
[10:53] <ilba7r> no problem you learn as you go
[10:53] <mzinz_165> :)
[10:54] <netstar> As a non-root user I only have to enter the root password once and I have full access to admin tools even after loggin in and out (not reboot).  Is this normal behaviour?  If so, how do I change it?
[10:55] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?
[10:55] <robotgeek> netstar: root user, or sudo?
[10:55] <ilba7r> netstar, you need to set your sudo timeout. Do not know how to do so but try man sudo
[10:56] <cafuego> netstar: Note that sudo doesn't use the root password.
[10:56] <depl0y> mmm, anyone can tell my why EVERY application I now try to use crashes on me within a couple of seconds
[10:56] <netstar> ilba7r, thanks.  So this is normal behaviour then.
[10:56] <ilba7r> netstar using sudo you will have root privlages for the timeout period
[10:57] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?
[10:57] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, I WON!
[10:57] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, im quick!
[10:58] <ilba7r> so it worked good luck then
[10:58] <ilba7r> :)
[10:58] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, thanks so much.  i should have been in bed hours ago but this is too fun
[10:58] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, the simplest stuff in the world too :P
[10:58] <ilba7r> mzinz_165, lol there is always tomorrow though. Have fun my freind
[10:59] <mzinz_165> ilba7r, thanks again, cyal ater
[11:05] <gerald-volt> how do i check my desktop resolution?
[11:06] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?
[11:12] <noppo> people, how do i change screen resolution?
[11:12] <xerux> xorg
[11:12] <xerux> .conf
[11:12] <xerux> or in your wm display settings
[11:12] <noppo> how to change the screen res. on the run?
[11:13] <xerux> I usually do it in the wm/dm :)
[11:13] <xerux> say, in gnome, you have a "Screen resolution" tool or whatever.
[11:14] <noppo> xerux, cool, thanks!
[11:14] <para> system preferences screen resolution
[11:14] <xerux> yay, just fixed the ACPI problem :D
[11:15] <xerux> Now I can check battery info etc
[11:15] <noppo> i have run a DOS application using wine and it changed my screen res to some 640x480
[11:15] <noppo> didn't know how to get it back to 1024x768
[11:16] <sammi> Hi everyone
[11:17] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, there is no way to take screenshots/alt+tab/restart gnome or anything like that. is there anything i can do?
[11:17] <katie_> how can i convert .vobs into .avi
[11:17] <sammi> I'm having trouble viewing samba shares in nautilus (invalid encoding) appears on names with 
[11:17] <katie_> OR how can i rip directly to avi
[11:17] <giftnudel> Stork, what do you want to do?
[11:17] <sammi> Is there any easy way to fix this
[11:17] <Adusei16> does anybody kno how to install softwares on Linux?
[11:18] <Stork> giftnudel, i want to be able to get out of full screen mode while my game is running
[11:18] <Ng> Adusei16: System->Administration->Synaptic is the easiest way :)
[11:18] <Stork> giftnudel, and take screenshots of the game
[11:18] <giftnudel> Stork, if you are familiar with the console
[11:18] <Adusei16> Im a new user
[11:18] <Ng> katie_: there's dvdrip in multiverse?
[11:18] <giftnudel> Stork, you can do ctrl+alt+f1
[11:19] <Adusei16> just started using the prog today
[11:19] <giftnudel> Stork, (and alt-f7 to go back)
[11:19] <giftnudel> Stork, for a screenshot: try
[11:19] <Stork> giftnudel, that just takes me back to the full screen window
[11:19] <giftnudel> one moment
[11:19] <zerokarmaleft> Adusei16, welcome
[11:19] <katie_> yeah, i installed and used it, but it ripped to .vob, but it dosnt say anything about converting to avi
[11:19] <katie_> or even ripping directly
[11:19] <Adusei16> thanx
[11:20] <Adusei16> this is beter than windows
[11:21] <giftnudel> Stork, ah sorry, import doesn't work, I have no Idea!
[11:21] <tristan> Adusei16 : istalling software is easy
[11:22] <tristan> Adusei16 : in system, administration, choose synaptic and look for the software you want. Then choose install and wait untill it tells you that it is done
[11:22] <Adusei16> when i try to install from the desktop error keeps popping up
[11:23] <Stork> bah
[11:23] <Ng> katie_: ah, hmm
[11:23] <Stork> giftnudel, thanks anyways
[11:23] <katie_> it's just a pain you know...
[11:24] <Ng> katie_: I expect that ffmpeg and/or transcode can do it, with some magic incantations - google might be of help working out what
[11:24] <tristan> Adusei16 : what kind of errors?
[11:25] <Adusei16> saying could not open
[11:26] <tristan> Adusei16 : It says that you cannot open Synaptic?
[11:26] <Adusei16> i also try watching a dvd it didn't work
[11:26] <triple5> hi everybody
[11:26] <tristan> Adusei16 : Easy Ubuntu here : http://placelibre.ath.cx/keyes/downloads/EasyUbuntu-2.4beta4.tar.bz2
[11:26] <Adusei16> yep
[11:27] <galorin> I'm having trouble with sleep states on my desktop.  It seems to power on ok after sleep/hibernate but my display never comes up, and the system doesn't respond to keyboard events.
[11:27] <Stork> how can i take a screenshot from the command line
[11:27] <tristan> Adusei16 : extract the archive and run easy Ubuntu. It will modify your deposit, install codec to watch dvd, divX...
[11:28] <Adusei16> thanks
[11:29] <mtlife> is there someone here that knows shorewall a bit?
[11:29] <katie_> goodness, it's all very confusing
[11:29] <mishari> mtlife: see what i can do
[11:29] <intelikey> hmmm well it looks like udev is all i really hosed.
[11:31] <mtlife> mishari: I set up my shorewall yesterday, with snat functionality and bind9.. Everything seems to work except that I cant seem to forward port 80 (and my isp is not blocking it, it worked before) and when users from my internal network try and access the external ip it doesnt work
[11:32] <mtlife> mishari: I found a tutorial on shorewall.net on how to do the last, involving bind 9.. but that doesnt make any sense to my config
[11:32] <Adusei16> extract from desktop right?
[11:32] <tristan> Adusei16 : yes and run it
[11:33] <mishari> mtlife: ugh.. never tried snat.. sorry :-(
[11:33] <mtlife> mishari: was worth a shot :)
[11:33] <Stork> how can i take a screenshot from the command line
[11:34] <intelikey> hmmm my ppp burped out some error messages about ipv6.ko missing but seems to be working ok...
[11:34] <borisattva> hi, is anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop?
[11:34] <Stork> dammit!
[11:35] <Stork> when i'm playing my game in full screen mode, how can i take a screenshot?
[11:35] <mtlife> mishari: can you do me a favor and try connecting to www.profarm.org:5800 ?
[11:35] <borisattva> strok: have you tried using the print screen?
[11:35] <mtlife> i want to check if that is working
[11:35] <soundray> Stork, don't swear. If Gnome is still in control, the PrintScreen key should work.
[11:35] <intelikey> [alt] +[print screen]  doesn't work
[11:36] <borisattva> try just the print screen
[11:36] <intelikey> stork ?
[11:36] <borisattva> is anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop? i only need you to check out a variable for me in your set up coz i somehow broke mine
[11:37] <Stork> soundray, intelikey, it seems that the game doesn't allow any screenshots to be taken
[11:38] <intelikey> borisattva no GUI here mate.  sorry.
[11:38] <intelikey> Stork digi-cam  :)
[11:38] <borisattva> thats cool. thanks anyway
[11:38] <Stork> oh ok
[11:38] <Stork> intelikey, where can i get that?
[11:39] <soundray> Stork, you can run 'sleep 3 ; xwd -root >screenshot.xwd'. You then have three seconds to change to your game.
[11:39] <intelikey> Stork no really tho, i remember somethin about delayed screen shots from the menu.
[11:40] <intelikey> Stork or even use 20 second and then start the game.
[11:41] <Stork> intelikey, soundray, it says "unable to open display ''"
[11:41] <CVirus_NetCafe> question: for instance ubuntu breezy comes wih kernel 2.6.14 .... I wont be able to upgrade to 2.6.15 unless I'm using backports ?
[11:41] <soundray> Stork, does 'xwd -root >test.xwd' work by itself?
[11:42] <Stork> nope
[11:42] <soundray> Stork, try it in a fresh gnome-terminal.
[11:42] <Stork> but i'm doing this from the command line, not on gnome terminal
[11:42] <Stork> i can't
[11:42] <soundray> Stork, why?
[11:42] <Stork> because the game is full-screen
[11:42] <MKA> hi @ all , ive big problem
[11:42] <soundray> Stork, that's why you need the sleep delay.
[11:43] <MKA> my task  where the  icons are is now on the left sirte on my sceen, i wanna replace it but dont knwo how to do
[11:43] <katie_> sudo apt-get install winetools right?
[11:43] <soundray> Stork, it should work from the console, too, if you enter 'export DISPLAY=:0' before the xwd.
[11:44] <Stork> i'll try
[11:44] <Stork> where will it save the screnshot?
[11:44] <giftnudel> in the current directory
[11:44] <soundray> Stork, in the current directory.
[11:44] <selinium> any python programmers in the house?  I am looking to install an IDE, is IDLE up to the job? if so, there are two versions on IDLE 2.4 in the repo. WHich one?
[11:45] <Stork> soundray, what's the format it uses?
[11:45] <soundray> Stork, xwd
[11:45] <robotgeek> selinium: 2 versions? just install one, maybe it's for the versioning thing 2.3,2.4
[11:45] <robotgeek> selinium: just apt-get install idle
[11:45] <MKA> noone can help me
[11:45] <soundray> Stork, you can convert using imagemagick: 'mogrify -format png *.xwd'
[11:46] <katie_> where can i find the wine folde ragain?
[11:46] <soundray> MKA, be patient, ask again, use different words.
[11:46] <Ng> selinium: eric is quite good afaik
[11:46] <selinium> Ng I'll take a look at that aswell then cheers!
[11:47] <MKA> :) ok soundray
[11:47] <Ng> katie_: wine folder? as in where it stores its config/windowsprograms? should be .wine in your home directory
[11:47] <robotgeek> selinium: try pida also
[11:47] <robotgeek> selinium: it also intergrates with vim/emacs/several other editors
[11:48] <selinium> robotgeek, OK :) cheers
[11:48] <katie_> Ng, nada
[11:48] <soundray> MKA, can you not just drag your icons to where you want them?
[11:48] <katie_> if i go cd /home/katie/.wine?
[11:48] <Storkme> soundray, ooh, that worked! any way i can make it take a screenshot of just the current window? (the game runs in 800x600 and my desktop is 1024x768)
[11:48] <HaNNiBaL80> does anyone know of a program called web polygraph ?
[11:48] <soundray> Storkme, yes, if you know the window ID. Read man xwd for details.
[11:48] <Ng> katie_: have you run wine yet? if not it won't have created that yet
[11:49] <katie_> yes, i mean it works if i do cd /home/katie/,wine, but if i just go look in my home folder it's not there, is it supposed to be like that?
[11:49] <soundray> Storkme, don't ask me how to find out the window ID -- I don't know.
[11:49] <Ng> katie_: ah, yes. in unix files/folders that start with . are considered hidden. I think the nautilus shortcut to show them is ctrl-h, but it's in the view menu
[11:50] <intelikey> katie_ yes anything with . preceeding it is 'hidden'
[11:50] <Storkme> soundray, heh, i was about to ask ;p
[11:50] <Storkme> soundray, i'll google.
[11:50] <gnomefreak> soundray: doesnt ps give you the proccess ID number (if thats what you mean by id)
[11:50] <Ng> Storkme: alt-printscreen should just grab the current window
[11:50] <katie_> thanks, lol, it's just i prefer to see things than just type it
[11:50] <Storkme> grr..
[11:50] <soundray> gnomefreak, no, the X window id is different.
[11:50] <Ng> Storkme: although I'm not sure if that'll work for a game
[11:50] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhhhhh
[11:51] <Storkme> Ng, it wont, thanks anyway
[11:51] <MKA> so pls help me^^: I replaced the task which is up on the screen, knoe its on the left ite and i cant replace it
[11:51] <MKA> anybody hs an idea?
[11:51] <intelikey> katie_ i know what you mean...  i even    alias ls='ls -A'   so that they show up in ternimal
[11:51] <soundray> gnomefreak, Storkme, xwininfo gives you the window ID, but you have to be able to click the window. Don't know how to handle a fullscreen program with xwininfo.
[11:52] <Storkme> bah
[11:52] <Stork> soundray, i can use the -name flag maybe?
[11:53] <soundray> Stork, maybe.
[11:53] <katie_> lol
[11:53] <soundray> MKA, what do you mean by 'task'?
[11:53] <borisattva> is anyone here using built in nautilus ftp mounting, that creates an icon on the desktop? i only need you to check out a variable for me in your set up coz i somehow broke mine
[11:53] <MKA> hmm what is it in english
[11:54] <CVirus_NetCafe> how can I start users and groups from command line ?
[11:54] <MKA> let me explain: there is  the icon from firefox
[11:54] <MKA> evolotion
[11:54] <Stork> soundray, woo, that works
[11:54] <Ng> CVirus_NetCafe: "gksudo users-admin" should do the trick I think
[11:54] <soundray> MKA, is this gnome you're talking about?
[11:54] <CVirus_NetCafe> Ng, thanks
[11:55] <MKA> it is
[11:55] <Stork> soundray, is it possible to make a shellscript that would save the screenshot as a png?
[11:55] <MKA> soundray
[11:55] <MKA> it is gnome
[11:55] <intelikey> 
[11:56] <soundray> Stork, yes, you can pipe xwd output through xwdtopnm and pnmtopng.
[11:56] <soundray> MKA, are you trying to move the icons on the panel?
[11:56] <MKA> its not moveable anymore
[11:56] <MKA> not the icons
[11:57] <MKA> the whole thing where the icons on it
[11:57] <robotgeek> Stork: there's this program called "import" which you can use to directly take screenshot in png
[11:57] <intelikey>                   
[11:57] <soundray> MKA, the grey bar on top with the icons is called the panel.
[11:57] <Stork> how do i get out of 'man command' ??
[11:57] <soundray> Stork, 'q'
[11:57] <katie_> anyone here used mencoder?
[11:57] <MKA> ahaa
[11:57] <HaNNiBaL80> does anyone know of a program called web polygraph ?
[11:57] <Stork> doesn't work :|
[11:57] <MKA> ok its the oanel
[11:57] <intelikey> yeah i'm confused there is MKA talking about a panel or not ?
[11:57] <MKA> panel
[11:58] <intelikey> ok right click and unlock them
[11:58] <MKA> ok th gray thing i mean
[11:58] <soundray> MKA, when you click an icon with the right button, you should see a menu with a 'Move' item.
[11:58] <MKA> i dont wanna move the icons
[11:59] <soundray> MKA, what do you want to move?
[11:59] <MKA> i have moved the whole panel on left side
[11:59] <intelikey> the panel soundray
[11:59] <MKA> now i want to move it back
[11:59] <soundray> MKA, intelikey, ahh
[11:59] <MKA> but i cant move
[11:59] <intelikey> it should drag and drop tho
[12:00] <intelikey> right click and unlock it maybe ?
[12:00] <soundray> MKA, click with the right mouse button on an area on the panel where there is no icon.
[12:00] <MKA> thats the prob
[12:00] <soundray> MKA, select "Properties" and adjust the panel orientation in the dialog.
[12:00] <MKA> the ians are soo big , that i cant klick on panel wihtout klicking on icon
[12:01] <intelikey> enlarge the panel
[12:01] <soundray> MKA, remove one of the icons temporarily.
[12:01] <MKA> ahee i have used a trick
[12:01] <MKA> ^
[12:01] <Stork> is this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'
[12:01] <Troels> Does anyone know where the rc.d file is in Ubuntu?
[12:01] <MKA> i removed an icon from panal
[12:02] <MKA> panel, so i can klick on panel whithout klicking on icon
[12:02] <soundray> MKA, smart :)
[12:02] <intelikey> doesn't have one Troels has a list of them in /etc/rcS.d/
[12:02] <CVirus_NetCafe> I used users-admins and just unchecked the "run adminitrative commands or something" ... and now when i try to run it again and enter my password .. it tells me wrong password .. how can i enable it back ?
[12:02] <intelikey> SysVinit Troels
[12:02] <phimic> hello all
[12:03] <Troels> intelikey: :)
[12:03] <phimic> i have some problem with my new ubuntu breezy on my xcube
[12:03] <sophtpaw> how can i delete a   non "debian file archive"
[12:03] <intelikey> came from slackware did ya Troels ?
[12:03] <robotgeek> phimic: what do you mean?
[12:03] <phimic> it crashes after some minutes, reboot without message
[12:04] <phimic> it has a intel 915G chipset
[12:04] <Troels> intelikey: Red Hat :)
[12:04] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: you mean me?
[12:04] <Troels> Intelikey: You?
[12:04] <phimic> i use the i815 driver from xorg
[12:04] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, have you configured any other users on your system?
[12:04] <intelikey> who said i changed ?
[12:04] <robotgeek> phimic: what's a xcube?
[12:04] <intelikey> mdk slack and rh Troels
[12:04] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, nope
[12:04] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: what is a "non debian file archive"? details?
[12:05] <phimic> robotgeek: http://www.alternate.de/html/shop/productDetails.html?showTechData=true&artno=SBLB08&#tecData
[12:05] <Troels> intelikey: ;)
[12:05] <scanwinder> i just installed radeon fglrx drivers and, now when i try to open xawtv or kdetv, the screen goes blank, anyone know whats causing that?
[12:05] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, hmm, so you've disabled admin privileges for the only user you have on your system...
[12:05] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: err... a program, specifically a game client i installed but with to remove and re install clean
[12:05] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, so ?
[12:06] <Stork> is this a valid shellscript: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7315 for usage './script <screenshotname>'
[12:06] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: how did you install it?
[12:06] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: tried sudo dpkg -e <name of program> but came back `glGo' is not a debian format archive
[12:06] <phimic> i dont know if the chipset is the problem but Xorg writes in their website that the i815 driver supports the 915G chipset too
[12:06] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, was it "Executing system administrative tasks" that you disabled in the dialog?
[12:06] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: i thought i used dpkg to install it as it was a .deb file
[12:07] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, yes
[12:07] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: there was another client which was a tar.gz but that was different
[12:07] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: i cd'd into /usr/games and then sudo dpkg -r or is it -e?
[12:07] <HiddenFly> Im going to shrink my / partition (ext3), what would be a good way to do it?
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, so ?
[12:08] <robotgeek> sophtpaw: dpkg -e ? usually you install it with dpkg -i and remove using dpkg -r
[12:08] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, are you chatting on the system?
[12:08] <intelikey> where does your /usr/bin/pager point ?
[12:08] <intelikey> man is borked
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, no .. its a friend .. I'm not even a ubuntu user
[12:08] <soundray> CVirus_NetCafe, so you don't have access to it right now?
[12:08] <CVirus_NetCafe> soundray, I'll let him in .. to talk to u
[12:09] <Troels> intelikey: Where're you from?
[12:09] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: ahhh......yes, i did install it with -i and now i see that -r is working too! : ) had the wrong command
[12:09] <intelikey> general question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to
[12:09] <intelikey> Troels ?
[12:09] <robotgeek> hey bungle , long time :)
[12:09] <sophtpaw> robotgeek: what is the protocol for removing tar.gz files?
[12:10] <intelikey> anybody ?
[12:10] <intelikey> general question; what is the executable that /usr/bin/pager points to
[12:10] <Troels> intelikey: I've always wanted to try out MIXAL.
[12:11] <intelikey> never heard of it Troels
[12:11] <soundray> intelikey, it points to /etc/alternatives/pager, which in turn points to /usr/bin/less by default
[12:11] <intelikey> thank you soundray
[12:11] <tafsen> where can I get presets for the eql. to BMP?
[12:11] <Troels> intelikey: But weren't you using gnu mdk?
[12:11] <intelikey> mdk=mandrake
[12:12] <Troels> Never heard it like that.
[12:12] <intelikey> sorry.
[12:12] <Stork> does anyone here know how to get the window id of a window from the command line?
[12:12] <soundray> intelikey, check out 'update-alternatives --display pager'
[12:12] <intelikey> no alternatives here mate
[12:13] <Troels> intelikey: It's easy to confuse mdk with mdk :P
[12:13] <intelikey> yes i can see how it would be..... kinda like confusing gentoo with gentoo isn't it.
[12:14] <Troels> intelikey: Indeed.
[12:14] <intelikey> i like gentoo but i've never used gentoo  slow modem and slow machines prevent such a thing.
[12:15] <Ng> Stork: xwininfo
[12:15] <Troels> I see
[12:15] <Stork> Ng, that requires you to click on the window
[12:15] <Ng> that it does
[12:15] <Stork> Ng, which i can't do :\
[12:16] <Ng> Stork: how about xlsclients -l?
[12:16] <soundray> Stork, you can display all windows' info with 'xwininfo -root -children' -- no clicking needed
[12:16] <soundray> Ng: cool!
[12:17] <Stork> darn
[12:17] <Stork> i can't see that from the command line as there's no scrolling
[12:18] <intelikey> ok still attempting to use 'openvt' in a sysvinit script as a form of auto-login.   will it work ?
[12:18] <intelikey> no scrolling ?
[12:18] <intelikey> sure there is.
[12:18] <Ng> Stork: command line? no scrolling? are you using a console? if so alt-pageup should work, or you can pipe the command into more
[12:18] <intelikey> shift page up
[12:18] <katie_> where can i get codecs to play .wmv?
[12:19] <Ng> erk yeah, shift, not alt ;)
[12:19] <Stork> aha
[12:19] <Ng> katie_: see the RestrictedFormats wiki page
[12:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell katie_ about codecs
[12:19] <Nameeater> why am I getting these damned apt/list problems: http://pastebin.com/511284
[12:19] <Stork> so using one of those commands (xlsclients -l or xwininfo -root -children) i can get the name/id of my game window?
[12:19] <intelikey> stork if you switch tty's it clears the buffer tho
[12:19] <katie_> !easysource
[12:19] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:20] <crimsun> mark__: pong
[12:20] <intelikey> :)
[12:21] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: can you please paste your full sources list on pastebin
[12:21] <intelikey> ok testing..... brb
[12:21] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511287
[12:22] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: the first line the one that has cdrom in it put a # infront of it or get rid of it totally
[12:23] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: also take the # away from line number 37 please
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: same with line 30
[12:24] <Ng> isnt 37 covered by 34?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: no leave line 30 the way it is :( i didnt see the extra line there
[12:24] <Nameeater> isn't 37 covered by 34?
[12:24] <Nameeater> or do they have to be 2 seperate lines
[12:24] <gnomefreak> ng
[12:25] <gnomefreak> no its not
[12:25] <gnomefreak> ones restricted
[12:25] <Ng> breezy-security universe
[12:25] <gnomefreak> one isnt
[12:25] <Nameeater> oh rightt
[12:25] <Nameeater> didn't know that
[12:25] <Ng> both list universe
[12:25] <Ng> therefore 37 is covered by 34
[12:25] <Ng> I was only asking the question rhetorically ;)
[12:25] <enyc> Hrrrrm
[12:25] <enyc> Are there any updated breezy / breezy-server images available [?] 
[12:25] <Nameeater> still getting errors ;/
[12:26] <enyc> i.e. with updates / security patches etc. in the image [?] 
[12:26] <gnomefreak> i would think restricted main is different that than security
[12:26] <intelikey> well to answer the question i asked eariler  YES! it will work.      an openvt command in any init script will open root consoles.    that may be considered a bug.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: did you save run sudo apt-get update and what errors are you getting?
[12:27] <soundray> intelikey, why is that a bug?
[12:27] <intelikey> i said it may be considered a bug,  i did not call it a bug.
[12:27] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511292
[12:27] <soundray> intelikey, okay, why may it be considered a bug?
[12:27] <Ng> gnomefreak: restricted is just another "channel" like main/universe/multiverse
[12:27] <gnomefreak> oh yeah Nameeater that last one is a very very bad idea to have in there
[12:27] <arrinmurr> enyc: i don't think so
[12:27] <intelikey> it is a security risk
[12:28] <enyc> arrinmurr: kk
[12:28] <Nameeater> the xmms2 one?
[12:28] <gnomefreak> yes
[12:28] <zodiaq> im sorry to ask... but could anyone tell me what application i should use to see what dnsservers has been handed to me via dhcp?
[12:28] <Storkme> damn it
[12:28] <enyc> arrinmurr: seems a shame really... would make sense for there to be something like that.. particuarly for dapper [long maintenance] 
[12:28] <Nameeater> well they do say it 'appears' to work :/
[12:28] <gnomefreak> Nameeater:  did you put a # infront of the cdrom repo?
[12:28] <Storkme> soundray, Ng, specifying the id didn't work either :|
[12:28] <Ng> intelikey: init runs as root and can spawn shells at will, you should only be getting init scripts from trusted sources, so it's no more a security risk than anything else
[12:28] <soundray> intelikey, is that because it is so easy to smuggle openvt commands in init scripts, or because it is so easy to run an initscript as a non-privileged user?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: it may work but you should not use debian repos in ubuntu
[12:29] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: yes
[12:29] <Nameeater> ok
[12:29] <gnomefreak> they can and will break your system
[12:29] <arrinmurr> enyc: yeah, i've thought about it too sometimes, as there are quite nasty problems in default kubuntu install for example
[12:29] <intelikey> soundray because pam doesn't catch it.
[12:30] <Ng> intelikey: you know you can reboot any stock ubuntu machine and get a root shell just by picking the recovery console option in grub, right?
[12:30] <Ng> intelikey: pam is only involved where authentication is required. init falls outside that
[12:31] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: can i please have your updaed sourceslist
[12:31] <intelikey> ng i know how to use init=/bin/bash   but that is not the point.
[12:31] <Ng> intelikey: I don't mean that, the specific recovery option puts you in a root shell. either way non-root users can't install init scripts, so your point is moot imo
[12:31] <Nameeater> http://pastebin.com/511294
[12:32] <enyc> arrinmurr: whats wrong in kubuntu ?
[12:32] <intelikey> ng no not if you set security to requite a password it doesn't
[12:32] <enyc> arrinmurr: ubuntu 5.10 has a pmountd that meanns FDD mount not work properly... unless you install 'breezy-backports' version...
[12:33] <intelikey> but there is no security catch for this.   if you just slip a 'sulogin' in an init script you still have to type the password.  this circumvents that.
[12:33] <gnomefreak> name ok try putting a # infront of line 35 save than run sudo apt-get update again
[12:33] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: ^^^
[12:34] <Ng> intelikey: how on earth are you just going to slip an sulogin into an init script?
[12:34] <Ng> intelikey: init scripts are only modifyable by root
[12:34] <intelikey> same way you get this line in ????
[12:34] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: nope, still giving me grief
[12:35] <Ng> intelikey: eh?
[12:35] <Nameeater> if i wack it in front of line 32 its dandy, but that leaves me securityless :/
[12:35] <Storkme> how can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?
[12:36] <intelikey> in ubuntu you just look at the name of someone in this channel,  exploit their irc client and use sudo  because they have it timed and the password is still good   lol
[12:36] <katie_> whats plf and cipherfunk?
[12:36] <robotgeek> intelikey: haha, scan me :)
[12:36] <Ng> intelikey: no
[12:36] <soundray> intelikey, somehow I don't believe that you've exposed a real bug or security hole.
[12:36] <intelikey> robotgeek not you.  one of these noobs
[12:36] <Ng> intelikey: even if you do that, adding a root shell to their init script won't help you at all.
[12:37] <Ng> and their sudo access won't be available to you either
[12:37] <Storkme> how can i do: 'if (argument 2 is given) do this, otherwise do this)' in shellscripting?
[12:37] <Ng> it doesn't cross terminals
[12:37] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: ok give me one sec to find something :)
[12:37] <katie_> nm
[12:37] <robotgeek> Storkme: http://www.tldp.org/LDP/abs/html/
[12:38] <intelikey> it does when like the guy said eariler, 'i can log out and back in and it still doesn't ask for my password when i sudo'   lol
[12:38] <arrinmurr> enyc: well, the spca5xx module providing support for many usb-webcams is broken (the whole computer freezes when trying to access the webcam, but this is ofcourse not only kubuntu problem), and entering in administrator mode doesn't work. bot of these can be fixed, but it's not nice that many new users have to deal with those problems :/
[12:39] <intelikey> it's still a security hole,  no matter how small.  it's a hole.
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: no
[12:39] <arrinmurr> enyc: err.. i mean entering administrator mode in the graphical kde configuration tool
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: run "sudo ls" in two terminals, both will ask you for your password
[12:39] <Storkme> is there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?
[12:39] <intelikey> not me they wont.
[12:39] <intelikey> i don't do sudo.
[12:39] <Ng> intelikey: I am running a stock install and they both ask me
[12:40] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: do you want multimedia repos so you can get rid of the xmms repo?
[12:40] <soundray> arrinmurr, 1) spca5xx works fine here. 2) root access is disabled by design, and it's a good decision, too.
[12:40] <Nameeater> sure ok, tho i have commented it out
[12:40] <intelikey> i'm running a server install and sudo is only set up for root....  so what.
[12:40] <brenner> Storkme: startx
[12:40] <Storkme> awesome
[12:41] <arrinmurr> soundray: 1) then you must have done something to it, or you're running a newer kernel, or you're not using it at all or something 2) read again what i said
[12:41] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: here replace your list with this one :) http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:42] <soundray> arrinmurr, yes I am using it. On reading your line above again, I still cannot see anything that needs fixing.
[12:42] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: you can put a # infront of the src ones if you like
[12:42] <Coyctecm> where I have to put export PATH command if I want to ~/bin to be in path?
[12:42] <theine> Coyctecm, are you using gnome?
[12:43] <Coyctecm> yes
[12:43] <intelikey> Coyctecm local  $HOME/.bashrc   global  /etc/profile
[12:43] <Coyctecm> ok, thanks
[12:43] <arrinmurr> soundray: 2) in default kubuntu breezy install, when you take - for example - k menu -> system settings -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work
[12:43] <theine> Coyctecm, put "export PATH=${HOME}/bin:${PATH}" in ~/.gnomerc
[12:43] <intelikey> yeah $HOME/.gnomerc  for the gui
[12:44] <Coyctecm> ok :)
[12:44] <arrinmurr> soundray: ehm... i mean k menu -> system settings -> login manager -> Administrator Mode.. , and enter your password, it doesn't work
[12:44] <Storkme> brenner, that didn't work
[12:44] <Storkme> is there any way to move back to xserver from the command line without using alt+F7 ?
[12:44] <theine> intelikey, and the terminal too (if launched under gnome)
[12:44] <Ng> Storkme: chvt 7
[12:44] <fid> hey, i'm brand new to ubuntu...  i assume installing a debian package (or adding a debian repository) isn't really supported?
[12:44] <Ng> fid: correct
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: bad idea :)
[12:45] <Ng> fid: it/they may work, but you should be careful and think carefully if you are going to try it
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: what package did you want?
[12:45] <fid> i'm trying to install opera.  on opera's download page, i select ubuntu, and it gives me a .deb file.  i can't install it though, it claims it's broken
[12:45] <Ng> something that's pretty isolated like opera should be ok
[12:45] <giftnudel> fid, there might be unresolved dependencies
[12:45] <fid> i tried 'dpkg -i operabiglongname.deb'
[12:45] <gnomefreak> fid: go to this link and add the opera repo
[12:45] <Ng> can you paste the exact error in a pastebin?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[12:45] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[12:45] <intelikey> theine yeah but outside of gnome it needs in /etc/profile or a ~/.bash_profile or ~/.bashrc   else you wont have it.   i always use  /etc/profile
[12:45] <Ng> or do that :)
[12:46] <crimsun> fid: it probably wants libqt3-mt
[12:46] <Nameeater> there is a very good page on the wiki for getting Opera up and running
[12:46] <crimsun> fid: you should be able to fix that with: sudo apt-get -f install
[12:46] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: any errors?
[12:47] <katie_> I installed the codecs, but still doesn't work, I tried using Xine and vlc
[12:47] <fid> crimsun: so, do "apt-get -f install" instead of "dpkg -i"?
[12:47] <theine> intelikey, will setting the path in /etc/profile make Gnome aware of it? I know that setting it in ~/.bash{rc,_profile} doesn't
[12:47] <boostdave> Having some trouble with the Dapper live CD (flight-2): it doesn't recognize my CD-Rom drive.  Anyone know if flight-3 will be better?
[12:47] <katie_> mplayer
[12:47] <crimsun> fid: if you've already done the dpkg -i [..] , yes
[12:47] <gnomefreak> fid thats before dpkg -i
[12:47] <crimsun> fid: just, sudo apt-get -f install
[12:47] <Ng> katie_: it's possible that it's a newer wmv that isn't able to be played - does mplayer spit out any obvious looking errors?
[12:47] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: yes :(
[12:47] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: are they gpg errors?
[12:48] <fid> ok, before coming on, i tried the dpkg -i.  it gave an error, so I then removed opera using synaptic.  so as of now, the .deb file is not installed
[12:48] <Nameeater> only one way, which was unrelated to my security problem
[12:48] <Nameeater> which I'm still getting
[12:48] <gnomefreak> ok Nameeater what country are you in?
[12:48] <Nameeater> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/restricted/binary-i386/Packages.gz  This HTTP server has broken range support
[12:48] <fid> do i do the "dpkg -i" first, or just the "apt-get -f install"?
[12:48] <Nameeater> new zealand
[12:48] <crimsun> fid: no, you should ``dpkg -i opera[..] .deb'' now. It will fail, so then you ``sudo apt-get -f install''.
[12:48] <fid> ok, let me give that a try
[12:48] <katie_> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)
[12:48] <katie_> ProcessInputError  r:0x80004005=-2147467259 (keyframe: 1)??,?% 0 0 48%
[12:49] <Ng> katie_: could you paste the whole output to a pastebin?
[12:49] <crimsun> Nameeater: please try another mirror
[12:49] <crimsun> Nameeater: for instance, from .au
[12:49] <katie_> !pastebin
[12:49] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:49] <Seveas> Nameeater, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/security*
[12:49] <Seveas> and retry
[12:49] <gnomefreak> crimsun: i was thinking that but with the securty you cant add country code can you?
[12:50] <fid> ok, it looks like it's downloading the dependencies (yeah, it looks like it needed libqt)
[12:50] <gnomefreak> fid it does it also need motif
[12:50] <fid> excellent, it looks like it's up and running!
[12:51] <katie_> oh wait
[12:51] <katie_> im getting colours
[12:51] <fid> gnomefreak: yeah, when starting it gave an error about motif
[12:51] <crimsun> motif is in multiverse
[12:51] <gnomefreak> fid:  yeah it took me like 3 weeks to figure out wth motif was :(
[12:51] <Storkme> i think i broke my computer :\
[12:51] <katie_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316
[12:51] <Storkme> i just ran my script
[12:51] <Storkme> and nothing works
[12:51] <fid> so i just do an "apt-get install motif"?
[12:52] <Nameeater> Seveas: that didn't work, tried that before too (repeated just in case)
[12:52] <Storkme> i'd show you what it is but i can't upload it
[12:52] <gnomefreak> fid: i use the OOo motif in synaptic  i cant remember the name of it
[12:52] <crimsun> fid: do you have multiverse enabled?
[12:52] <katie_> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7316
[12:52] <katie_> I think it's loading the wrong codecs...
[12:52] <Ng> katie_: hmm, I'm not sure, but it does look like it doesn't like it. that does seem to happen with some wmv's unfortunately ;/
[12:52] <fid> crimsun: i have no idea, so i'm going to say "no" ;-)
[12:53] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell fid about multiverse
[12:53] <katie_> well that sucks
[12:53] <crimsun> fid: apt-cache policy libmotif3|grep 500
[12:53] <deefzi> fid, running opera? :-)
[12:54] <P3L|C4N0> hi people+
[12:54] <fid> deefzi: i am now!
[12:54] <j2daosh> can someone tell me if this is right? 5 04 10,20 * * /usr/sbin/ddclient > /home/josh/ddclient.out
[12:54] <j2daosh>  .....cron runs that script at 5 minutes past the 4th hour on days 10 and 20 every month of every year and writes an output to /home/josh/ddclient.out... right?
[12:54] <deefzi> fid, had the same problems few days ago: uncomment multiverse repositories and install lesstif2
[12:54] <deefzi> fid, worked for me.
[12:54] <fid> ok, i'll check the wiki about multiverse/etc
[12:55] <crimsun> j2daosh: right, and the rest (stderr) will be mailed to you
[12:55] <crimsun> fid: note that lesstif2 is in universe, not multiverse.
[12:55] <j2daosh> stderr? and that term means what?
[12:57] <crimsun> j2daosh: you'll find a standard Google search (stdout and stderr file descriptors) helpful, or read the bash man page
[12:57] <Nameeater> hmm well I dunno what to do, maybe it will work tommorow
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: add your country code infront of archive so it looks kinda like us.archive.ubuntu
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: to all but the securty ones
[12:58] <Nameeater> but the problem is security :(
[12:58] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: i understand that
[12:58] <ikla> ubuntu work really well ?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: if im not mistaken the securty ones get the info from the other ones
[12:59] <gnomefreak> ikla: ofcourse it does :)
[12:59] <Nameeater> interesting
[01:00] <ikla> how uptodate are packages like X etc. ?
[01:00] <Nameeater> will soon find out
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ikla: about as up to date as you can get
[01:00] <ikla> gnomefreak, system layout nice or all bloated and nasty ? :)
[01:00] <gnomefreak> ikla: ubuntu is released in 6 month intervals so they are more upto date than most distros
[01:00] <ikla> ah
[01:01] <gnomefreak> ikla: depends what you mean by bloated if you mean desktop wise there are many to choose from from gnome-kde-fluxbox
[01:02] <Nameeater> fluxbox used to stall on startup when i was stuck on my old pc, couldn't be bothered working out why
[01:03] <Stork> ffs
[01:04] <gniknomis> What is the best WYSIWYG html editor for ubuntu?
[01:04] <brenner> Stork: are you Storkme?
[01:04] <Stork> when trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"
[01:04] <Stork> yes, i am
[01:05] <arrinmurr> gniknomis: nvu ?
[01:05] <gniknomis> arrinmurr: thanks for that
[01:06] <Stork> when trying to do 'xwininfo -root -children', i get the error: "Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server" "Xlib: No protocol specified"
[01:06] <brenner> Stork: were you looking to paste stuff?  there's a pastebin script that you can redirect output to apparently
[01:06] <gnudreamer> is there an option to use lilo instead of grub?
[01:06] <Stork> brenner, nope
[01:06] <gnudreamer> I'm geting ready to install ubuntu on my Mom's computer, I'd like to keep Windows on the drive
[01:06] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: not by default you have to install lilo
[01:07] <Stork> !!WTF:!!?!?!?!!
[01:07] <ubotu> Stork: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:07] <gnudreamer> How would I do that before installation?
[01:07] <Stork> arg this sucks
[01:07] <gnudreamer> Does grub support mulit boot os?
[01:07] <gnudreamer> multi
[01:07] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: i dont think you can
[01:07] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: yes
[01:07] <gnomefreak> grub and lilo do the same thing
[01:08] <brenner> i remember if you select 'go back' during the installation, a menu pops up and there was something about lilo there
[01:08] <gnudreamer> When I install Ubuntu, do I have to patition, or can I leave the Windows info were it is
[01:08] <Stork> OH MY GOD!
[01:08] <gnomefreak> i never went back :(
[01:08] <Stork> this isn't fair
[01:09] <shawkins> hello, I installed windows a few days ago for a temp solution for a game, after installing it and booting into kubuntu.... something came up about a possible corrupt superblock, said to use e2fsck... anyone know what to do?
[01:09] <Stork> Ng, you there?
[01:09] <Ng> yep
[01:09] <gnudreamer> me either, this will be my second ubu install, Fedora 4 was a real antagonist it took three times to get it up
[01:09] <Stork> Ng, i wrote a shell script to *try* and make it easier to take screenshots from the command line, and it's giving me errors
[01:09] <gnudreamer> It need a viagra boot loader
[01:10] <brenner> gnudreamer: the installer has parted functionality.  you should be able to  resize/delete/add partitions through that
[01:10] <overrider> dumb question: when i install on 512mb ram, and tomorrow upgrade to 2gb of ram, doesnt matter to the system right? i mean in a sense that when i install windows on an asus motherboard, then exchange the board to a gigabit one, it might cause trouble
[01:10] <Ng> Stork: can you paste it to a pastebin?
[01:10] <robotgeek> Stork: yeah, that would be a good idea
[01:10] <Stork> will do
[01:10] <brenner> ubotu: tell gnudreamer about dualboot
[01:10] <Nameeater> gnomefreak: now I am just left with Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch :(
[01:10] <Ng> overrider: it should be fine
[01:10] <gnudreamer> ty brenner
[01:11] <Ng> overrider: linux tends to be much less upset by major hardware changes
[01:11] <robotgeek> Stork: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots , no script there though
[01:12] <overrider> Ng, ok thanks, i was just wondering if maybe it installs programs using using certain system parameters, such as compiling differently for different cpu`s and such...
[01:12] <gnomefreak> Nameeater: i think its more server fault than anything the other night the country code fixed it for someone in au
[01:12] <Nameeater> wierd :<
[01:12] <Ng> overrider: not really. you might have to tweak a few things, but generally it tries to load the drivers for things it finds at bootup
[01:13] <overrider> cool
[01:14] <Nameeater> heh now that stat stuff is back woo, oh well if it doesn't work tommorow i'll be paying another visit x)
[01:14] <c1ru> hi
[01:14] <c1ru> hi all
[01:15] <Storkme> Ng, robotgeek, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7318
[01:15] <thenuke> Hey, what do you suggest, how could I test few old harddisks before trying to install ubuntu with RAID on them?
[01:16] <Ng> thenuke: do they support SMART?
[01:16] <Ng> smartmontools can run a long self-test routing on SMART compatible disks that should give you an idea of their health
[01:16] <thenuke> Ng: I dont know, they are like ~1-4GB hd's.. if that indicates anything about smart :)
[01:17] <Ng> erk, probably not then ;)
[01:17] <Ng> thenuke: you could dd to/from them for a while I spose ;)
[01:17] <thenuke> Ng: yes, I was thinking about using damn small linux and using badblocks -test
[01:18] <robotgeek> Stork: try export DISPLAY=:0.0
[01:19] <Ng> thenuke: actually yeah that's not a bad idea t all
[01:19] <Storkme> will do
[01:20] <Stork> robotgeek, same error
[01:20] <MEPHiST0> hi dudes
[01:21] <MEPHiST0> i have one issue with breezy... nautilus filecopy performance when copying from a smb share is horrible (1minute for a 8mb file). if i mount it with smbmount and copy in the shell - everything goes fine
[01:21] <MEPHiST0> is this a known issue?
[01:22] <gnudreamer> so grub was chosen as the boot loader for a reason...what advantages does it have over lilo?
[01:22] <Storkme> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7318 -- any ideas?
[01:23] <Storkme> i have an idea
[01:23] <Ng> Storkme: you need to allow things running outside X to connect to it. it's a small security risk, but running "xhost +" inside X will quickly solve it
[01:23] <tafsen> If I wan't to set up a virtual server, can I use xen to this?
[01:23] <Storkme> ok
[01:24] <robotgeek> Storkme: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7319
[01:26] <brenner> gnudreamer: http://lwn.net/Articles/89772/
[01:27] <brenner> gnudreamer: it looks like one of those apples vs oranges things though
[01:27] <Stork> thanks Ng that worked
[01:27] <lowman62> g'morn/g'aftnoon/g'evenin tech support room
[01:33] <Stork> Ng, after all that, i've decided to write a program in java to take the screenshots for me :)
[01:33] <Ng> :o
[01:33] <Stork> since i have two computes next to eachother, i'll make one of them tell the other when i want a screenshot taken
[01:34] <th0mz> hi
[01:34] <th0mz> i'm trying to get the Canon 'secure printing' working. Anybody has any clue to make this working ? Canon gives .ppt files but the options doesnt seems to be there. Any clue some1 please ?
[01:36] <Stork> how do i find out my lan ip again?
[01:36] <iRob> stoneage, ifconfig
[01:37] <gnudreamer> So what do you think about putting Grub/Ubuntu on a seperate partition? Will it still affect the MBR? I just want my mom to have an easy choice at boot, between WINblowz and Ubu.
[01:37] <mats> Hello.
[01:37] <mats> Do you guys support java problems here too?
[01:38] <mats> Cause im getting a java problem on ubuntu
[01:38] <iRob> gnudreamer, you can put grub on mbr and be able to boot both win and linux
[01:38] <codyro> Mats.. if it's a programming question for JAVA I presume should goto #java.. if it's error related to a application on Ubuntu ask away ? :] 
[01:38] <mats> Allrigh Codryo. Its not a ubuntu application. But thanks for the link
[01:38] <scenestar> hi room
[01:39] <scenestar> i have a bit of a crazy question
[01:39] <gnudreamer> iRob so it looks pretty? I only have a dual boot laptop and it is with Lilo
[01:39] <scenestar> you know how gnome has 4 desktops right
[01:39] <nbound> scenestar, no we are all blind :P
[01:39] <scenestar> is there any possibillity i can turn one of them into a fullscreen virtual machine
[01:40] <nbound> scenestar, just run ur VM app in that desktop and tell it to always run ther
[01:40] <gnomefreak> :) it works
[01:40] <scenestar> is there a x11 conf for that?
[01:41] <brenner> gnudreamer: 5 words: white text on black background :)
[01:41] <nbound> scenestar, to move it to a workspace just right click on it in the taskbar
[01:41] <gnudreamer> COOL
[01:41] <gnudreamer> I love that schema
[01:41] <scenestar> hmmm
[01:41] <scenestar> nevermind
[01:41] <brenner> gnudreamer: i wouldn't call it pretty, but it does the job...who spends more than 10 seconds at their bootloader anyway?
[01:41] <scenestar> thats jsut a fugley hack
[01:41] <iRob> gnudreamer, i'm not sure what you're asking.  If you install ubuntu on a seperate partition you can install grub in the MBR and configure it to boot either OS.  you won't need lilo anymore
[01:41] <scenestar> i mean as in a bsd jail like idea
[01:41] <nbound> scenestar, to make it always load there, im sure u can somehow
[01:41] <scenestar> uhm
[01:42] <scenestar> thats not what i mean
[01:42] <scenestar> t
[01:42] <brenner> gnomefreak: so you're a.k.a bootloaderfreak?
[01:42] <gnudreamer> i just want to make sure that if she decided to ugrade windoze I can "fix" problems
[01:42] <nbound> scenestar, well they are just workspaces what else could u have meant?
[01:42] <gnomefreak> lol i should be :)
[01:42] <scenestar> as in: have one screen dedicated to an independant machine
[01:43] <scenestar> as in totally integrated
[01:43] <scenestar> sorta like a virtual console
[01:43] <nbound> scenestar, heh no i dont think so, they are just extra space
[01:43] <scenestar> ugh
[01:43] <katie_> why isnt serpentine working? it says to add music files, i try and open an mp3 and it just doenst bother adding it?
[01:43] <katie_> any ideas?
[01:43] <scenestar> fsck
[01:43] <tristan> dsl g fait une fausse manip
[01:43] <scenestar> now i have to do it myself
[01:44] <nbound> !fr
[01:44] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:44] <gnudreamer> tr k3b
[01:44] <gnudreamer> tr k3b
[01:44] <gnudreamer> my y key is finicky
[01:45] <gnudreamer> katie: try k3b it's much more flexible
[01:45] <brenner> gnudreamer: the only "problem" you might have is when she upgrades windows, it overwrites the mbr and you can't boot into ubuntu.  that problem is easily resolved.
[01:47] <gnudreamer> Well, this leads me to a seperate isssue, I want to put ubuntu on my laptop which has DamnSmall installed, I want to delete DSL but fear issues in the MBR
[01:47] <codyro> Just make a grub boot disk for quick fix
[01:47] <gnudreamer> It uses lilo
[01:47] <codyro> Lilo boot will do aswell
[01:47] <codyro> ;] 
[01:47] <gnudreamer> Ok grub boot disk will be made
[01:47] <nbound> gnudreamer, just use the ubuntu install disk to install on it
[01:47] <codyro> ^ can do that too
[01:47] <katie_> hrm
[01:47] <codyro> Just takes longer to get to the screen
[01:47] <katie_> okay, i think it worked
[01:47] <codyro> (patience is not a virtue)
[01:47] <gnudreamer> nbound which issue are you addressing?
[01:48] <codyro> bootloader I believe
[01:48] <nbound> the dsl one
[01:48] <codyro> Oh :[
[01:48] <nbound> gnudreamer, it will overwrite the mbr with grub and we'll all be happy :)
[01:48] <gnudreamer> oh so it won't affect my non-ntfs install of xp then?
[01:49] <nbound> ohhh...
[01:49] <nbound> u didnt meantion that
[01:49] <gnudreamer> seperate issue from my mothers new machine
[01:49] <nbound> well it shouldnt... u just have to get grub to add a menu option for it
[01:49] <nbound> smb
[01:49] <nbound> oops
[01:49] <gnudreamer> I'm working on three seperate boxes
[01:50] <gnudreamer> I multi task
[01:50] <nbound> lol
[01:50] <selinium> hi all, glxgears does not report the fps rate on my sytem any more? Is this usual?
[01:50] <Stork> yes
[01:50] <Stork> use glxgears -printfps
[01:51] <selinium> Stork, cheers!!
[01:51] <Stork> no problem
[01:51] <brenner> Stork: bah, where'd you find that option?  i told someone there was one and they wouldn't believe me.
[01:52] <Stork> brenner, googled for a while
[01:52] <nbound> which samba package do i install in synaptic if i wanna acces win puters
[01:52] <gnudreamer> the one I'm irc'ing on is my future pvr, audio workstation, next is my laptop, finally mom's dual boot astrology email machine
[01:52] <Stork> there's one like, -iacknowledgethatthisisatoolandnotabenchmark too
[01:52] <katie_> aww
[01:52] <katie_> my doggy sleepin
[01:52] <Ng> you can also use glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark ;)
[01:52] <Ng> yeah
[01:52] <Stork> heh
[01:53] <olicat> hi all. does anyone know how i can tell wget to save its files in a certain location?
[01:53] <selinium> Stork Ng: ROFL now that is waht I call a flag!
[01:53] <gnudreamer> pvr won't play nice with my tv card, laptop has dsl lilo winxp non ntfs, mom's machine should be fine
[01:53] <Stork> :)
[01:53] <gnudreamer> All will run Ubuntu
[01:54] <gnudreamer> laptop is dual bot, moms is dual boot. right now I'm deciding which boot loader will cause the least problems during Upgrades I think grub is king
[01:54] <robotgeek> Stork: i'm now inspired to write a nicer shell script
[01:55] <Stork> ooh?
[01:55] <Stork> for what robotgeek
[01:55] <cyphase> wow
[01:56] <cyphase> just now i was booting up, and i was wondering if there were going to be anymore Breezy kernel updates
[01:56] <cyphase> then i get the update icon in my tray
[01:56] <cyphase> new kernel :)
[01:56] <robotgeek> Stork: for the screenshottaking
[01:56] <Stork> i solved my problem by writing a server that waits for incoming connections, then takes screenshots when it recieves the screenshot name
[01:56] <Stork> so on my other pc, i just run the client
[01:56] <cyphase> I Think, It Is
[01:56] <cyphase> ;)
[01:57] <Stork> it works very well
[01:57] <robotgeek> Stork: cool, i am just going to reinvent the wheel, i think
[01:57] <Stork> heh
[02:00] <nbound> hmmm whoever was just talkin bout kernel updates: 2.6.12-10.26 just came up for me
[02:00] <LoPMX> how can i mail many users with ActionMailer?
[02:01] <nbound> To: xxx@xxx.com, yyy@yyy.com, zzz@zzz.com?
[02:02] <overrider> for some reason my grub doesnt show up when i switch on the computer. it turns on only when done loading the os selected (blindly) in grub. the monitor is a dvi connected lcd screen to an at radeon9800 pro card. when using vga monitor all is fine. how can i make it so my pc uses dvi already at bootup? i cant seem to find the option in the bios...
[02:02] <lowman62> To: <comma seperated list> ?
[02:02] <lowman62> :P
[02:03] <nbound> overrider, ur vid card should output to everything before the driver is loaded
[02:03] <tristan> HELP
[02:03] <nbound> for example if i had a TV, CRT, and my LCD, all should receive output at boot and then when u hit windows turn off
[02:04] <mephis1987> hello
[02:04] <nbound> tristan, ask a question first ;)
[02:04] <mephis1987> I have a question
[02:04] <nbound> mephis1987, just ask :)
[02:04] <tristan> I cannot start my gnom session because it says that there is a trouble upon loading  or when saving my gnome_segv. So I am now using Xterm to speak to you
[02:04] <mephis1987> I have a .chm file
[02:04] <mephis1987> it s my ebooks
[02:04] <mephis1987> do u know any programme that runs it on ubuntu ?
[02:05] <nbound> tristan, tryed reconfiguring x?
[02:05] <nbound> mephis1987, tryed searching ebook in synaptic?
[02:05] <mephis1987> oh
[02:05] <overrider> nbound, its a bummer i know. but my screen is black during bios post messages and grub, until it reaches either ubuntu or windows...i assume if i dont find an option in the bios, or a jumper on the card i am hooped huh?
[02:05] <mephis1987> how can i read .chm files ?
[02:05] <tristan> nbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xorg, right?
[02:05] <nbound> mephis1987, i just told you
[02:06] <nbound> ubotu tell tristan about xorg
[02:06] <nbound> :)
[02:06] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:06] <tristan> nbound : no. I'll try that. Command is sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver, maybe...
[02:06] <lowman62> mephis1987: GnoCHM
[02:06] <stian> can anyone explain to me how i set a password for my mysql server in ubuntu? im new to this, and googling havent gotten me anywhere (yet anyways)
[02:06] <mephis1987> let me try
[02:06] <nbound> overrider, thats just weird hence why i dont like ati, there cards always have weird quirks
[02:06] <overrider> stian, mysqladmin -u root -p password 'yourpassword'
[02:07] <Myconid3> nbound: i concur!
[02:07] <lowman62> mephis1987: read this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html
[02:07] <nbound> Myconid3, is that the one where u agree? :)
[02:07] <Myconid3> no, its the one where you send me a new video card
[02:08] <stian> overrider, i just get mysqladmin: connect to server at 'localhost' failed
[02:08] <stian> error: 'Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)'
[02:08] <lowman62> Myconid3: that was a cool movie :P
[02:08] <nbound> Myconid3, is the 2 7800 512MB GTX's in it for me?
[02:08] <overrider> stian, so maybe there is already a password set?
[02:08] <nbound> there*
[02:09] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:09] <mephis1987> i made it
[02:09] <mephis1987> thanks a lot
[02:09] <mephis1987> all of you :D
[02:09] <lowman62> stian: did you start mysql?
[02:09] <overrider> lowman62, since it says access denied i think mysql is running, but wrong password
[02:10] <cyphase> Does anyone know if anyone is working on a kind of introduction program for Ubuntu. Something that would explain the basic things to new user..
[02:10] <nbound> cyphase, you'll pick it up quick there isnt much to learn
[02:10] <cyphase> ...
[02:10] <nbound> and we are always here
[02:10] <cyphase> nbound, not for me
[02:10] <nbound> well not ALWAYS
[02:10] <nbound> but u get it :P
[02:11] <cyphase> i've been uing Ubuntu since Warty :)
[02:11] <cyphase> using*
[02:11] <stian> yes, i think mysql is started
[02:11] <nbound> cyphase, ive been using ubuntu a week, and i help more than i receive help here
[02:11] <stian> but just to be sure
[02:11] <stian> how do you propose i do it?
[02:11] <stian> start it i mean (totally new here)
[02:12] <scanwinder> does anyone know what package contains libXm.so.3 ?
[02:12] <cyphase> nbound, well that's good :P
[02:12] <nbound> hehe
[02:13] <lowman62> stian: check to see how many mysql config files you have ...if you have more than one rename one to my.conf and edit it appropriately
[02:13] <cyphase> but i meant mostly for people coming from other operating systems (read windows)
[02:13] <davea> Caught a null pointer dereference in the kernel of Dapper Live CD 3 while trying to start up network interfaces.  Can someone give me guidance about how to report this?
[02:13] <redguy> scanwinder: sec
[02:13] <nbound> scanwinder, google it ;) im sure someone would have made a package invetory somewhere
[02:13] <brenner> cyphase: so sort of like a tutorial at 1st boot?
[02:13] <lowman62> in /etc
[02:13] <cyphase> brenner, at first boot, and whenever they want it
[02:13] <scanwinder> nbound: redguy:  think i found it openmotif-libs
[02:13] <nbound> what would u put in it though?
[02:13] <brenner> cyphase: haven't heard of anything in the pipeline but it's a great idea
[02:13] <nbound> scanwinder, oh ok
[02:14] <nbound> kewl
[02:14] <redguy> scanwinder: my apt-file tells me that it is in libmotif3
[02:14] <scanwinder> anyone know where i can find a .deb package for it?
[02:14] <scanwinder> redguy: oh ok
[02:14] <redguy> !info libmotif3
[02:14] <ubotu> libmotif3: (Open Motif - shared libraries), section multiverse/libs, is extra. Version: 2.2.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1190 kB, Installed size: 2968 kB
[02:14] <nbound> cyphase, the problem is what do u put in it, how technical do u make it???
[02:14] <redguy> there you go
[02:14] <cyphase> nbound, as little as possible, within reason
[02:15] <pm_> hi, can i make a personalized iso of ubuntu? with the apps that i want and all those customizations?
[02:15] <twilight> scanwinder, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[02:15] <redguy> scanwinder: consider installing apt-file for looking for files in packages which are not installed
[02:15] <cyphase> it would have stuff like "What is Ubuntu?", "what is Open Source?", What is Firefox/Evolution/Gaim?", etc
[02:15] <scanwinder> redguy: thats odd, i have that installed and im getting an error sayin it cant find it when i try to run motv
[02:16] <nbound> cyphase, if u dont know them u really shouldnt be using linux
[02:16] <nbound> lol
[02:16] <redguy> scanwinder: did you apt-file update ?
[02:16] <cyphase> very funny :P
[02:16] <scanwinder> redguy: apt is telling me its installed
[02:16] <C-O-L-T> hello
[02:16] <redguy> scanwinder: what is installed?
[02:16] <nbound> C-O-L-T, just ask ur q
[02:16] <scanwinder> redguy: libmotif3
[02:16] <cyphase> maybe even have slightly different versions for Windows and Mac
[02:17] <scanwinder> redguy: but motv wont open and says it cant find libXm.so.3
[02:17] <cyphase> "Evolution is like Outlook" and "Evolution is like Mail.app"
[02:17] <nbound> cyphase, while i admit itsa good idea, theres more important things
[02:17] <Matsy> Is it safe to uninstall libgcj?
[02:17] <Matsy> Or does Ubuntu need it.
[02:18] <redguy> scanwinder:check with ls -l /usr/X11R6/lib/libXm.so.3
[02:18] <nbound> cyphase, and there are win convert distros, such as xandros, and lycoris
[02:18] <tristan> I reconfigured xserver-xorg but it didn't fix the problem
[02:18] <redguy> scanwinder: how did you install motv?
[02:18] <cyphase> nbound, there are more important things.. but give me an example
[02:18] <nbound> Matsy, why do u want to uninstall it?
[02:18] <Matsy> Cause i want to use Sun's java
[02:18] <Matsy> and not Ubuntu's java
[02:18] <g1m> can somebody help me to get my wlan usb stick (atmel) to work?
[02:18] <Matsy> root@ubuntu:/aryan/svn# java -version
[02:18] <Matsy> java version "1.4.2"
[02:18] <Matsy> gij (GNU libgcj) version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)
[02:18] <scenestar> yeah
[02:19] <scenestar> glm
[02:19] <scenestar> i can
[02:19] <nbound> cyphase, gettin dapper goin, creatin safe ntfs writing, getting better AMD64 compatibility
[02:19] <g1m> cool
[02:19] <cyphase> nbound, true
[02:19] <scenestar> is it a benq stick?
[02:19] <g1m> hotplug installed a driver and i can configure wlan0 with iwconfig
[02:19] <g1m> no
[02:19] <scanwinder> redguy: out of the repositorys
[02:19] <cyphase> unfourtanetly, i don't have the skill for that kind of stuff
[02:19] <cyphase> at least the latter 2
[02:19] <Matsy> Does Ubuntu need libgcj6?
[02:19] <scenestar> glm
[02:19] <scenestar> then what is the problem?
[02:20] <nbound> cyphase, neither, but hey if u offered to ubuntu to write an intro im sure theyd love the idea
[02:20] <cyphase> as far as "gettin daper goin", that can be a lot of stuff
[02:20] <redguy> scanwinder: hrmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, this is odd :/
[02:20] <nbound> cyphase, id be willing to help
[02:20] <scenestar> meh
[02:20] <g1m> network-manager says "Status: not connected" there is a signal of "0" and i cannot ping a second computer
[02:20] <android> may someone give me a command that copy all .pdf and .jpg files on system to specific folder?
[02:20] <scenestar> ubuntu is being dumbed down too much
[02:20] <scenestar> glm: do you know the EXACT chipset?
[02:20] <pm_> how can i make a personalized ISO with ubuntu? i have to install ubuntu in a lot of machines, and i want to padronize the instalation with the same apps and etc.
[02:20] <g1m> at76c505
[02:20] <nbound> scenestar, yeah... but only a good user can use it to its full potential
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: If ubuntu needs libgcj6 you will get an error when you try to remove it, or it will tell you it's about to remove lots of other packages.
[02:21] <gnudreamer> !chroot
[02:21] <ubotu> chroot is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[02:21] <Matsy> Ricky, its about to remove a lot of packages.
[02:21] <cyphase> nbound, cool
[02:21] <Matsy> Including full Openoffice.
[02:21] <scenestar> nbound, : thats not the point, xutils for instance doesnt contain lndir and such
[02:21] <Matsy> and bsh
[02:21] <redguy> scanwinder: don't know how to help you then, "it should work" :-)
[02:21] <Matsy> so i doubt i can remove it.
[02:21] <scenestar> and some idiot on the forums was bitching about people being able to rm -Rf
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: There is another package that makes gcj pretend to be Java.
[02:21] <Matsy> What package?
[02:21] <lowman62> Matsy: OpenOffice is dependant on what you are removing
[02:21] <nbound> scenestar, well it is known to be a user friendly 'aka - dumbed down' distro
[02:21] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: gcj-compat or something like that.
[02:22] <scenestar> nbound, just because its for the general public
[02:22] <scenestar> doesn mean that it should be crippled
[02:22] <nbound> scenestar, theres other options like gentoo, which will probably be what i use next
[02:22] <Matsy> ricky_clarkson,  LibGcj6-Common ?
[02:22] <Sobh_> any idea how to get a ubuntu .deb of sdk 5.0?
[02:22] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Doubtful.
[02:22] <scanwinder> redguy: hmm...ill just keep messin with it till it works then
[02:23] <scenestar> glm
[02:23] <scenestar> http://at76c503a.berlios.de/devices.html
[02:23] <scenestar> read that
[02:23] <g1m> already did that
[02:23] <lowman62> Matsy: are you wanting to install a java development kit (jdk) or java runtime environment (jre) ?
[02:23] <Sobh_> Anyone?
[02:23] <Matsy> Jre.
[02:23] <scenestar> chances are that ubuntu installed the OS driver by default
[02:23] <g1m> my vendor is not in that list
[02:23] <scenestar> in that case
[02:23] <scenestar> have you tried ndiswrapper?
[02:23] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Sobh_ about javadebs
[02:23] <tristan> I still have my problem that I cannot launch properly my gnome session because there is a trouble with gnome_segv. I reconfigured xorg but it did nothing except making me lose my widescreen resolution
[02:24] <g1m> yes, didn't get that to work either
[02:24] <scenestar> ugh
[02:24] <scenestar> ndiswrapper hell
[02:24] <scenestar> what exactly did you try with ndiswrapper?
[02:24] <brenner> tristan: you could probably help us out more by pasting the exact error wording
[02:24] <nbound> tristan, im stumped... a reinstall perhaps... but only if noone else can help you
[02:25] <g1m> installed vnet558.inf .. it said: hardware present
[02:25] <lowman62> Matsy: just install the jre leave libgcj...is this for your browser that you want the jre?
[02:25] <cyphase> tristan, it's hanging at the brown screne, right?
[02:25] <g1m> i removed the atmel modules
[02:25] <Matsy> lNo.
[02:25] <cyphase> screen*
[02:25] <g1m> and rebooted
[02:25] <Matsy> I wanna run a program.
[02:25] <Matsy> But if i leave libgcj, its not using the jre
[02:25] <gnudreamer> !tv
[02:25] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer
[02:26] <g1m> network-manager said i was connected and i had a signal of 100% but i couldn't configure the device by iwconfig
[02:26] <tristan> Well, I will translate because, I have not a english ubuntu. It says something like "Error when lauching or when saving configuration information gnome_segv. some of your configuration parameters may not function properly"
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !ivtv
[02:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, gnudreamer
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !bttv
[02:26] <lowman62> Matsy: install the jre in say /opt then in your .bashrc config file add the path to where it exists...there ya go! dundee
[02:26] <ubotu> gnudreamer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !video
[02:26] <ubotu> gnudreamer: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[02:26] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: How did you install Java?
[02:26] <cyphase> tristan, you're at the login screen..
[02:26] <Sobh_> Guys, 1.4, not 1.5
[02:26] <cyphase> and you enter your info, and press enter..
[02:26] <gnudreamer> !xorg
[02:26] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[02:26] <cyphase> what happens?
[02:26] <Matsy> Ricky, i ran the bin file
[02:26] <Matsy> ./blabla.bin
[02:27] <scanwinder> redguy: in xterm i just get the one line of output about libXm.so.3 and, im Eterm, i get a whole page of output ( http://pastebin.com/511391 )
[02:27] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: That's not the normal way on Ubuntu.
[02:27] <Matsy> erm.
[02:27] <Matsy> isnt it?
[02:27] <tristan> And, what is not functionning properly is that when I choose gnome session, I have no splash screen no launching of nautilus. Only the background I choose to launch session
[02:27] <Sobh_> robot, 1.4, not 1.5
[02:27] <lowman62> Matsy: where did it install to?
[02:27] <cyphase> tristan, that happened to me when i first installed breezy..
[02:27] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Check out the java-package package.
[02:27] <tristan> cyphase : yes I type my login and pass and it ends there. I have the error message
[02:28] <ricky_clarkson> beezly: Aloha.
[02:28] <Matsy> I dont know Lowman62
[02:28] <cyphase> tristan, since i had installed only a few days ago, i just reinstalled it
[02:28] <tristan> cyphase : so what did you do
[02:28] <Matsy> How can i check?
[02:28] <cyphase> never happened again
[02:28] <cyphase> tristan, do you have a firewall running?
[02:28] <n00b> hello?
[02:28] <cyphase> n00b, hi
[02:28] <n00b> wow
[02:28] <n00b> this actually works :P
[02:28] <cyphase> ..
[02:28] <cyphase> what does?
[02:28] <n00b> linux :P
[02:28] <glorca> hi there
[02:28] <cyphase> n00b, really?
[02:29] <g1m> scenestar: i tried to configure the device by /etc/ndiswrapper/netv558/<deviceID>.conf .. but it didn't work.. especcialy for the essid
[02:29] <n00b> its my first time running it so im kinda excited
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, how'd you do it?
[02:29] <glorca> a little doubt here
[02:29] <cyphase> ;)
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, i know what you mean
[02:29] <n00b> lol
[02:29] <brenner> n00b: awesome.
[02:29] <Red80> Hi Everyone
[02:29] <cyphase> smae for me when i first botted up linux
[02:29] <n00b> hey red80
[02:29] <scanwinder> n00b: yeh it works unlike windows:P
[02:29] <n00b> lol
[02:29] <n00b> fore sure scanwinder
[02:29] <scenestar> glm, dont expect ndiswrapper to have all the fancy scan abilities
[02:29] <glorca> the ubuntu packages of openoffice2-beta for breezy takes as dependency ubuntu-desktop package
[02:29] <scenestar> you have to do things manually
[02:29] <lowman62> Matsy: check to see if it installed to /opt...in console type ..cd /opt and see if it exists..if so type ls to what is in there
[02:29] <g1m> yeah, how ? :)
[02:29] <glorca> and i need to install sun packages, what can i do ?
[02:29] <scenestar> as in manually add the wep keys and ssid
[02:29] <cyphase> n00b, everything running alright?
[02:29] <g1m> where ?
[02:29] <beezly> ricky_clarkson: i
[02:29] <beezly> ricky_clarkson: hi
[02:30] <gnudreamer> Ok so I have an on-board sis video card, I want to re-add a AI Tech wave watcher tv input card, which bttv supports(supposedly). Which configuration utility should I use to tweak the driver to work with my card?
[02:30] <scenestar> glm, the same way you isntalled it
[02:30] <Matsy> jdk1.5.0_06  netbeans-4.1
[02:30] <Matsy>  lowman62
[02:30] <scenestar> i read a great guide in the ubuntu wiki on this
[02:30] <n00b> yeah everything is fine cyphase, i just have some things that i need to change.
[02:30] <scanwinder> can someone help me with the error im getting with motv? http://pastebin.com/511391
[02:30] <tristan> cyphase : not on my computer but I am behind the firewall of my university I suppose
[02:30] <cyphase> tristan, no, that's fine
[02:30] <glorca> if i deisntall openoffice2-beta, apt deinstalls me ubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <lowman62> Matsy: cd /jdk1.5.0_06
[02:30] <lowman62> then ls
[02:30] <tristan> cyphase : why?
[02:31] <cyphase> it' just i've heard reports about Gnome not working with a fireall on the local computer
[02:31] <cyphase> it's*
[02:31] <lowman62> there should be a jre included with the jdk
[02:31] <cyphase> i have a firewall though, and it's fine
[02:31] <rambo3> firehole?
[02:31] <Matsy> bin        include  LICENSE      sample                       _uninst
[02:31] <Matsy> COPYRIGHT  jre      man          src.zip
[02:31] <Matsy> demo       lib      README.html  THIRDPARTYLICENSEREADME.txt
[02:31] <glorca> can somebody give me a hand ?
[02:31] <mephis1987> oh
[02:31] <brenner> glorca: ubuntu-desktop is just a metapackage and can be removed safely
[02:31] <cyphase> glorca, sorry, i need both of mine..
[02:31] <mephis1987> i have a problem
[02:31] <g1m> scenestar: k i'll check the wiki
[02:31] <Matsy> so yes lowman62, there is a jre.
[02:32] <Red80> How is everyone?
[02:32] <lowman62> Matsy: just type cd...to put you in your home directory then
[02:32] <glorca> really brenner ?
[02:32] <cyphase> mephis1987, everybody had probles
[02:32] <cyphase> problems*
[02:32] <brenner> glorca: yes.  really.
[02:32] <cyphase> has*
[02:32] <glorca> ok
[02:32] <cyphase> ;)
[02:32] <glorca> thanks, i will try
[02:32] <lowman62> Matsy: gedit .bashrc
[02:32] <cyphase> mephis1987, instead of saying you have a problem, tell us the problem
[02:32] <Matsy> it doesnt exist.
[02:32] <Matsy> at least, there is nothing in it
[02:32] <mephis1987> Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:32] <cyphase> ah
[02:33] <mephis1987> when i install the chmlib
[02:33] <Red80> Can anyone gimmie some help on installing a good SNES emulator please? Back in my days of windows (about 4 months ago, I've been soley linux since...) I used ZSNES but I don't know how to get ZSNES
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, do you have synaptic open?
[02:33] <Matsy> but aw well.
[02:33] <Matsy> Im at gedit.
[02:33] <glorca> Red80
[02:33] <Red80> glorca?
[02:33] <mephis1987> i follow the guide here http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-81510.html
[02:33] <mephis1987> yes
[02:33] <glorca> download last version
[02:33] <glorca> from my repository
[02:33] <lowman62> Matsy: in the .bashrc config file you can set the path to java... :/opt/jdk<versionnumber>/jre/lib/bin
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, are you installing via synaptic?
[02:33] <glorca> for ubuntu
[02:33] <mephis1987> no
[02:33] <glorca> do you have breezy ?
[02:33] <cyphase> mephis1987, that's your problem
[02:33] <Red80> I'm running breezy yes
[02:33] <mephis1987> i didnt see gnochm there
[02:33] <cyphase> i'll explain..
[02:34] <glorca> http://human.gnu.cl/packages/ubuntu_breezy_i386/
[02:34] <Matsy> Lowman62, is it correct there is nothing in the file .bashrc ?
[02:34] <glorca> there is it
[02:34] <brenner> Red80: there's a zsnes package in multiverse
[02:34] <glorca> yup, but is 1.40
[02:34] <brenner> glorca: what version is on your repo?
[02:34] <glorca> i compiled 1.42
[02:34] <lowman62> Matsy: are you in your home directory /home/matsy for example?
[02:34] <brenner> glorca: nice.
[02:34] <Matsy> NO.
[02:34] <Matsy> sorry
[02:34] <Matsy> for caps
[02:34] <Matsy> im at /
[02:34] <Red80> multiverse? Can I apt-get it?
[02:34] <Matsy> just /
[02:34] <cyphase> mephis1987, whenever you want to install a package, you usually use apt-get or Synaptic. each of them sets the file so that you don't have 2 programs installing things at once, which could lead to instability
[02:35] <lowman62> Matsy: cd to your home directory then type "gedit .bashrc"
[02:35] <brenner> Red80: yes, after you've enabled the multiverse repo.  glorca has the 1.42 version though
[02:35] <g1m> scenestar: the ndiswrapper-list doesn't say a thing about Atmel chipsets..
[02:35] <Matsy> Now something is in it :D
[02:35] <g1m> scenestar: possible that they don't support it ?
[02:35] <mephis1987> oh
[02:35] <gnomefreak> ty cyphase i always wondered why only 1 apt process could run at a time :)
[02:35] <Storkme> are there any programs for uploading images to a website?
[02:35] <mephis1987> i closed synatic
[02:35] <Matsy> Im in there.
[02:35] <cyphase> mephis1987, so you can't use Synaptic and the terminal at once
[02:36] <scenestar> glm it worked with my atmel 2500 series
[02:36] <mephis1987> and i got the same problem
[02:36] <Red80> well I guess my repo's are the same as the ones enabled by Automatix, and last time I checked synaptic multiverse appeared to be open
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, on the whole computer, not just your account
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, you sure?
[02:36] <Red80> but I wan't to apt-get it
[02:36] <mephis1987> yes
[02:36] <cyphase> gnomefreak, your welcome
[02:36] <Agiofws> hello
[02:36] <mephis1987> i m sure
[02:36] <glorca> Red80 my package can also be removed via apt
[02:36] <glorca> because is a debian package
[02:36] <cyphase> mephis1987, did you close synaptic properly? or did you kll it
[02:36] <brenner> Red80: so apt-get install zsnes
[02:36] <cyphase> kill*
[02:36] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: So, did the wiki help?#
[02:36] <glorca> compiled for breezy x86
[02:36] <Red80> it worked
[02:36] <lowman62> Matsy: just add the path to the end of the others with  a :/opt/jdk<version>/jre/lib/bin
[02:37] <Red80> i've been typing 'Zsnes' not 'zsnes'
[02:37] <Red80> now it works :P
[02:37] <Red80> Huzzah
[02:37] <glorca> lol xD
[02:37] <Matsy> So all the way to the bottom
[02:37] <g1m> scenestar: what driver did you use with ndiswrapper?
[02:37] <lowman62> Matsy: you need the colon as a seperator...no should be close to the top
[02:37] <Red80> right now to get some R*MS
[02:37] <mephis1987> yes
[02:37] <mephis1987> let me try it again
[02:37] <scenestar> glm, im a bit rusty because i used it over a year ago
[02:37] <scenestar> but it worked crappy
[02:37] <cyphase> mephis1987, make sure apt-get isn't running in any terminals
[02:37] <ricky_clarkson> I'd stay away from that RMS if I were you.
[02:38] <Matsy> erm.
[02:38] <Matsy> there is no path.
[02:38] <Red80> Hmm... this really should brighten my day :P I'm off school sick
[02:38] <mephis1987> E: Could not open lock file /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (13 Permission denied)
[02:38] <mephis1987> E: Unable to lock the list directory
[02:38] <n00b> ZOMG GUYS UBUNTU IS TEH SHITE!~!
[02:38] <brenner> Red80: don't all packages start in lowercase? :P
[02:38] <mephis1987> here the whole thing i recieve
[02:38] <ricky_clarkson> Matsy: Have you looked at Ubuntu's documentation?
[02:39] <lowman62> Matsy: one second
[02:39] <Red80> brenner: shush all the other kids will laugh :P
[02:39] <mephis1987> when i type apt-get install chmlib
[02:39] <cyphase> lol
[02:39] <cyphase> mephis1987, you have to run as root
[02:39] <brenner> Red80: lol. nah, anyone who still plays snes games is cool with me :)
[02:39] <Red80> Huzzah!
[02:39] <scenestar> pah
[02:40] <scenestar> i play snes
[02:40] <mephis1987> yes , i m root of my linux
[02:40] <Red80> games were better before 3D
[02:40] <cyphase> mephis1987, run this..
[02:40] <scenestar> and psx
[02:40] <Agiofws> > and psx
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:40] <glorca> i still play nes ans snes
[02:40] <glorca> :D
[02:40] <scenestar> i got pcsx to run at 500 fps
[02:40] <scenestar> it was awkward
[02:40] <glorca> and psx, of course
[02:40] <glorca> via epsxe linux binaries
[02:40] <mephis1987> run this ?
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:40] <Red80> Hmm... how do I change my ubuntu menu logo to some other .png
[02:40] <mephis1987> run what ?
[02:40] <Agiofws> is anyone using fluxbox ?
[02:40] <cyphase> sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:41] <cyphase> mephis1987, sudo apt-get install chmlib
[02:41] <brenner> Red80: not happy with the orange threesome then? :)
[02:41] <glorca> xD
[02:41] <n00b> Is anyone able to help with a firefox icon problem?
[02:41] <Riccardone> Hi all
[02:41] <cyphase> n00b, what's wrong?
[02:42] <cyphase> n00b, you want it to be the official icon?
[02:42] <Red80> Heh! I got a pretty cool 'graphite' ubuntu logo off gnomelook.org, it still has the ubuntu logo on it :P
[02:42] <glorca> fox is missing ? lol
[02:42] <mephis1987> yeah
[02:42] <scenestar> if anyone is interested for the psx emulator
[02:42] <scenestar> http://eric.halo43.com/linux_psx_emu.php
[02:42] <mephis1987> i made it ?
[02:42] <n00b> cyphase: yeah
[02:42] <scenestar> n00b, theres a really nice how to on the forums
[02:42] <scenestar> copy paste
[02:42] <glorca> scenestar epsxe works great under linux
[02:42] <cyphase> n00b, one second
[02:42] <glorca> i also have tried it under freebsd, using linux emulation
[02:42] <cyphase> or scenestar can help :)
[02:42] <glorca> and it works great
[02:42] <n00b> scenestar: would you be able to tell me where, Ubuntu or firefox?
[02:42] <Riccardone> I'd like install Ubuntu Linux but my my PC is old date. Where I can read System Requirements to install Ubuntu ??
[02:42] <scenestar> n00b, ill link you
[02:42] <scenestar> jsut a second
[02:42] <mephis1987> oh
[02:42] <Agiofws> to start fluxbox what do you issue from command line ? or do you put "exec fluxbox"  in ~.xinitrc?
[02:42] <mephis1987> 1 more thing
[02:43] <n00b> scenestar: thanks
[02:43] <glorca> Riccardone it depends on the use you will give to it
[02:43] <cyphase> mephis1987, what's that?
[02:43] <scanwinder> can someone help me with the error im getting with motv? in Eterm im getting this erorr: http://pastebin.com/511391 and, im xterm im getting: motv: error while loading shared libraries: libXm.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:43] <mephis1987> can i press ctrl C for copying
[02:43] <n00b> scenestar: its just that theirs no icon their, and i tried the tip on the website but that doesn't work
[02:43] <scenestar> yeah eyah yeah
[02:43] <brenner> Agiofws: just select it from the sessions menu at login
[02:43] <scenestar> jsut chill
[02:43] <mephis1987> and ctrl V for paste
[02:43] <glorca> to use gnome, any 686 500Mhz or more and 192 ram, is the minimum i will recomend for gnome
[02:43] <Riccardone> glorca : there's a site abuot System Requirements for Ubuntu Linux ??
[02:43] <Agiofws> brenner:  its a server install
[02:43] <glorca> but, if you'l use some light wm, you can use a smaller pc
[02:43] <brenner> Agiofws: ah
[02:43] <Agiofws> brenner:  no login manager
[02:43] <cyphase> mephis1987, 1, yes you can. 2, couldn't you try? :)
[02:44] <Belutz> does anyone know why my wireless ethernet keep sending packet while it's not configured?
[02:44] <Red80> so is there anyway to change the ubuntu menu image to a different .png?
[02:44] <cyphase> Red80, yes
[02:44] <cyphase> the Menu Editor
[02:44] <brenner> Agiofws: then i'd point you to #fluxbox if no-one answers here.  dunno to be honest
[02:44] <pl_ice> hi :)
[02:44] <Red80> I've tried and it doesnt want to work
[02:44] <cyphase> Red80, i don't know then
[02:44] <cyphase> it's worked for me
[02:44] <Red80> It changes on all entries apart from the actuall button itself
[02:45] <CarinArr> agiofws, you can start it from gdm..
[02:45] <pl_ice> anyone uses bluefish www editor? ...
[02:45] <CarinArr> if you installed it through synaptic it should be listed as an option
[02:45] <n00b> if i type in <screen name>:<message> does that mean my name comes up red?
[02:45] <Agiofws> CarinArr:  no gdm  just runlevel2
[02:45] <cyphase> n00b, as long as the name is in the message
[02:45] <cyphase> n00b, doesn't have to be in that format
[02:46] <n00b> cyphase: okay, thankyou
[02:46] <cyphase> n00b, and the whole message, not just name
[02:46] <CarinArr> agiofws, sorry about that, didn't read what you said properly
[02:46] <n00b> cyphase: got ya... would you still have a solution for that firefox issue :P
[02:46] <scenestar> ihmmm
[02:46] <scenestar> odd
[02:46] <CarinArr> agiofws, but yeah you should be able to put it in .xinitrc
[02:46] <scenestar> cant find the guide anymore
[02:46] <gnomefreak> scenestar: what guide?
[02:46] <Agiofws> put what exec fluxbox?
[02:47] <cyphase> n00b, download the firefox icon and set it as the icon in the menu editor
[02:47] <CarinArr> yeah or startfluxbox
[02:47] <CarinArr> (better use the latter)
[02:47] <n00b> cyphase: menu editor, firefox icon? all i got so far is the firefox icon from the installation. I don't know what a menu editor is...
[02:48] <Red80> does anyone know how to make XMMS the default media player in ubuntu? so I can use the 'launch music player' keyboard shortcut and my music hotkeys?
[02:49] <cyphase> n00b, Applications -> System Tools -> Applications Menu Editor
[02:49] <jshellman> I went through the FakeRaidHoto (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto) and all went fine until the final boot when I got a bunch of errors and was dropped into busybox.
[02:50] <n00b> cyphase, that's for the menu though... i need the solution for the actual program. When it runs, the browser window has some crappy icon rather than the firefox symbol.
[02:50] <jshellman> So I'm getting errors like: mdadm: /dev/md0 has been started with 1 drive (out of 2)
[02:50] <cyphase> n00b, oh
[02:51] <jshellman> unable to find volume group "nvidia_abcdcbc5"
[02:51] <jshellman> any ideas?
[02:51] <Agiofws> where can edit startup files in booting ?
[02:51] <cyphase> n00b, that's significantly harder
[02:51] <Agiofws> or which directory ?
[02:51] <n00b> cyphase, i thought so. Firefox had a solution on their website... but that doesn't seem to work.
[02:53] <pl_ice> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC"....> means in html language? anyone?
[02:54] <n00b> don't know...
[02:54] <brenner> n00b: sys > help > starter guide > tips & tricks
[02:54] <cyphase> pl_ice, it's declaring the DOCTYPE
[02:54] <cyphase> :)
[02:54] <brenner> n00b: topic 17
[02:55] <cyphase> pl_ice, you don't have to worry about it. just put the standard line there
[02:55] <pl_ice> cyphase no, it cuts off my web! over here it's ok, in europe onone can open it!
[02:55] <pl_ice> *no one
[02:55] <brenner> seems like a lot of trouble for such a small detail to me :P
[02:55] <cyphase> pl_ice, what do you mean? it's an html tag..
[02:56] <pl_ice> cyphase well, if someone tries to open the page, it's totally empty, but exists, on my pc and other boxes in my city its ok! cut that line out, ant it works...
[02:56] <n00b> brenner, thank you very much... would this work on the firefox64 version though? (the one you can download off the net)
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, what's the entire line?
[02:57] <brenner> no idea
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, not just the beginning..
[02:57] <pl_ice> <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 3.2//EN">
[02:57] <cyphase> pl_ice, you're behind the times :)
[02:57] <cyphase> 3.2 is..
[02:57] <cyphase> old
[02:58] <Alakazam> wow @ ubuntu
[02:58] <Alakazam> I like it, a lot
[02:58] <Alakazam> it autoconfiged my wireless card
[02:58] <polpak> Alakazam: welcome in =)
[02:58] <Alakazam> thats impressive.
[02:58] <Alakazam> :D thanks polpak
[02:58] <pl_ice> cyphase that's what bluefish u/d linux generated...
[02:58] <obontu> excuse me, how do i auto accept files in xchat?
[02:58] <mats> Yeah Alakazam. Ubuntu = Good.
[02:58] <Alakazam> yes it is
[02:58] <brenner> Alakazam: 1st distro?
[02:58] <cyphase> Alakazam, yooooou loooooove ubunntuuuuu
[02:58] <cyphase> ;)
[02:58] <Alakazam> any its got a nice default screen resolution.
[02:58] <pl_ice> :D
[02:58] <mats> First Distro here is FC4
[02:58] <Alakazam> no brenner
[02:58] <Alakazam> ive used like... 10 different ones
[02:58] <Alakazam> from mandriva to gentoo
[02:58] <Alakazam> slackware, freebsd
[02:58] <Alakazam> etc.
[02:58] <pl_ice> cyphase explain more? pls
[02:59] <cyphase> pl_ice, no
[02:59] <cyphase> ;)
[02:59] <cyphase> j/k
[02:59] <obontu> please. how do i auto accept files on xchat 2.6.0?
[02:59] <pl_ice> obontu bad idea ... to do so
[02:59] <obontu> bad idea or not
[02:59] <cyphase> pl_ice, i handcode my web pages, and in XHTML Strict, so i don't know..
[02:59] <obontu> i can't standby on each file i'm queued to
[03:00] <pl_ice> cyphase is it ok to get rid of it? and it's so old, wth bluefish generates it ;)
[03:01] <cyphase> pl_ice, perfectly ok
[03:01] <cyphase> it won't hurt the page at all
[03:01] <brenner> obontu: ask in #xchat.  the people in there are pretty cool
[03:01] <pl_ice> it did be4re ;)
[03:01] <obontu> thanx
[03:01] <cyphase> it's more for standards and the occasion when a browser can't detect for sure the version of a pages html
[03:02] <pl_ice> yeh, funny enough that u/d linux it worked ..heheh
[03:03] <mats> Lowman62?
[03:03] <mats> Are you still here?
[03:03] <pl_ice> thnx cyphase
[03:03] <n00b> how do i configure grub so that it can boot my windows xp partition?
[03:04] <cyphase> pl_ice, my pleasure
[03:04] <mats> Grub will do that auomatically wont it?
[03:04] <mats> If you install Ubuntu. It will detect Windows XP
[03:04] <mats> in grub.
[03:04] <n00b> yeah it did
[03:04] <n00b> but somehow it got ruined
[03:04] <lowman62> mats
[03:04] <n00b> and when i select XP it will restart
[03:04] <mats> Oh.
[03:04] <pl_ice> unfortunatelly ;) why u want xp :D
[03:04] <mats> yeah Lowman62?
[03:04] <n00b> games and some other stuff :P
[03:04] <cyphase> i knew it
[03:04] <cyphase> lol
[03:05] <lowman62> you rang?
[03:05] <mats> rang?
[03:05] <mats> Yeah
[03:05] <wolwer> hi folks!
[03:05] <brenner> n00b: restarts? no errors or anything?
[03:05] <mats> I pasted something in your private
[03:05] <wolwer> please... i'm having problems with my locale settings... i'm coming from Conectiva (using pt_BR.ISO-8859-1, i believe) and ubuntu uses pt_BR.UTF-8...
[03:05] <Alakazam> hmm
[03:05] <lowman62> paste again no open window there
[03:05] <Alakazam> cant get my sound going, the modules loaded.
[03:05] <Alakazam> should i use alsa, or oss?
[03:05] <mats> pasted.
[03:05] <n00b> brenner, no nothing... sometimes it just hangs there with the command... do you want me to paste my menu.lst file?
[03:05] <brenner> n00b: please
[03:06] <wolwer> i've tried to change in /etc/environment to pt_BR.ISO-8859-1 but I get some errors. do I need some additional packages to do this? or some help please? (sorry my english)
[03:07] <polpak> Alakazam: firstly what sound hardware do you have?
[03:07] <n00b> brenner, ## ## End Default Options ##
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img
[03:07] <n00b> savedefault
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 Default (recovery mode)
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:07] <brenner> n00b: STOP
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img
[03:07] <polpak> n00b: don't paste in here
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:07] <mats> erm.
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img.old
[03:07] <n00b> savedefault
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <frank2006> hellobie here...
[03:07] <polpak> ubotu tell n00b about pastebin
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 Previous (recovery mode)
[03:07] <mats> paste in private? ;)
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz.old root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:07] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img.old
[03:07] <n00b> boot
[03:07] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:07] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:07] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> savedefault
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <polpak> dear lord.. stop
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-10-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <lowman62> mats: can you paste that again...I did not have you pm opened
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro quiet splash
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> savedefault
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 (recovery mode)
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <pl_ice> kick n00b
[03:08] <n00b> kernel		/boot/vmlinuz-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8 root=/dev/hda1 ro single
[03:08] <n00b> initrd		/boot/initrd.img-2.6.12-9-amd64-k8
[03:08] <n00b> boot
[03:08] <n00b> title		Ubuntu, memtest86+
[03:08] <n00b> root		(hd0,0)
[03:08] <mats> whoa.
[03:09] <mats> that was one hell of a paste:P
[03:09] <pl_ice> heh, he'll learn ;) hope
[03:09] <polpak> indeed
[03:09] <brenner> sorry guys.  i thought he knew about pastebins
[03:09] <mats> N00b
[03:09] <mats> www.pastebin.com
[03:09] <n00b> sorry
[03:09] <pl_ice> !pastebin
[03:09] <n00b> yeah i didnt know
[03:09] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:09] <mats> allright.
[03:09] <lowman62> mats you see my pm window?
[03:09] <mats> Yeah.
[03:10] <lowman62> paste it there
[03:10] <n00b> brenner, you still there?
[03:10] <mats> OH WAIT
[03:10] <mats> oh my god
[03:10] <frank2006> hoi
[03:10] <brenner> n00b: yep.
[03:10] <Matsy> it will work now.
[03:10] <n00b> brenner: k, im usin pastebin now
[03:10] <brenner> n00b: use a pastebin next time please
[03:10] <n00b> brenner: will do
[03:11] <frank2006> firts time here
[03:11] <polpak> frank2006: hi
[03:11] <n00b> brenner: http://pastebin.com/511433
[03:12] <frank2006> very silent here
[03:12] <wolwer> yeah
[03:12] <frank2006> hello wolwer
[03:12] <wolwer> i need some help with my locale settings, can you help me? hehehe
[03:13] <frank2006> very new myself...
[03:13] <brenner> n00b: pastebin the output of 'sudo fdisk -l'
[03:13] <frank2006> just instaled ubuntu
[03:13] <wolwer> hmmm
[03:13] <wolwer> me too
[03:14] <frank2006> got some trouble with setting, but i thinks it is running now
[03:14] <n00b> brenner: k, http://pastebin.com/511441
[03:14] <wolwer> whats your prob?
[03:14] <tango> hi everybody....
[03:14] <frank2006> firefox
[03:14] <robtotheb> how do i edit the new "updates available bubble" in drapper?  Not a big fan of it
[03:15] <wolwer> what prblem?
[03:15] <frank2006> somethimes when i put an url in, it says "this is a PAC"
[03:15] <brenner> n00b: ok, the root line seems to be right: /dev/sda1 == (hd2, 0), but i'm not sure what those map lines do
[03:16] <ubuntu> fuck windows
[03:16] <wolwer> hehehhe i didn't happen here, i've no idea...
[03:16] <wolwer> it*
[03:16] <ompaul> ubuntu, language please
[03:16] <intero> is it possible to save ubuntu live configurations, in order to be able to rescue them next time? something like knoppix
[03:16] <n00b> brenner: same here
[03:16] <n00b> brenner: i just copied them off the net coz someone else had them... :P
[03:16] <ompaul> intero,  there is a document about persistance on the wiki
[03:16] <n00b> brenner: should i try booting without them?
[03:16] <Alakazam> polpak, i have intel sound hardware
[03:16] <brenner> n00b: yeah. just a stab, but maybe comment them out?
[03:17] <intero> ompaul: thanks
[03:17] <Alakazam> sorry, installing some things too
[03:17] <ompaul> intero,  it is recent I can't remember its title sorry
[03:17] <n00b> brenner: will do, rebooting now...
[03:18] <sarah10> hello how can i remove all my mysql? (also my config files?)
[03:18] <sarah10> i forgot my root password!
[03:18] <gnomefreak> sarah10: your user password
[03:19] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I thin kthat is the mysql root password sarah10 is referring to
[03:19] <vouzico> hi everybody :)
[03:19] <intero> ompaul: will search :) thanks again
[03:19] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhhhh sorry
[03:20] <ompaul> gnomefreak, :-)
[03:20] <gnomefreak> :)
[03:20] <brenner> vouzico: hi dr. nick
[03:20] <sarah10> mysql root pswd!
[03:20] <sarah10> gnomefreak:  ompaul
[03:22] <gnudreamer> what is the hihest version of irefox ubunut breezy will run?
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: i get an error this time
[03:22] <brenner> n00b: what is it?
[03:22] <shadrach> if i install ubuntu dapper, how hard is it to get KDE?
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: it says to replace system disk
[03:22] <polpak> gnudreamer: by default it has 1.0.7
[03:22] <ompaul> sarah10, you can recover the root password for mysql, I have seen it in a faq
[03:22] <polpak> gnudreamer: but you can install 1.5
[03:22] <polpak> !ff1.5
[03:22] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:22] <n00b> brenner: then it tries to run GRUB again and i get Error Number 17
[03:22] <olicat> does anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out
[03:23] <ompaul> sarah10, I'll poke some stuff I have here but it is not very hard once you own the box
[03:23] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: this is the mysql doc about resetting the password: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/resetting-permissions.html
[03:23] <robtotheb> how do i get my ubuntu laptop (wi fi) to share files with my PC?
[03:24] <robtotheb> PC is ubuntu too
[03:24] <gnudreamer> what is the safest/best wy to upgrade to 1.5?
[03:24] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: basically, kill the server (sudo /etc/init.d/mysql stop), then run sudo mysqld --skip-grant-tables --user=root
[03:25] <johnl> sarah10: or add "skip-grant-tables" to the [mysqld]  section in /etc/my.cnf
[03:25] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: (as it says at the end of the mysql doc, before the user comments)
[03:25] <n00b> brenner: any ideas?
[03:25] <johnl> or is it /etc/mysql/my.cnf
[03:26] <brenner> n00b: i'm hitting forum topics.  you're welcome to join me: http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=3434201
[03:26] <sarah10> johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does mit do?
[03:26] <sarah10> johnl:  SaneEnglishMonk qhat does it do?
[03:27] <SaneEnglishMonk> sarah10: which?  the --skip-grant-tables option makes mysql not require a password for the root user
[03:27] <olicat> does anyone have an idea why i can't connect to port 431 (imap)? i've got cyrus imap running, and should listen on that port. cant work it out
[03:27] <brenner> n00b: this one looks the most promising so far: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=101316
[03:27] <brenner> n00b: it sounds like a partitioning problem
[03:28] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Isn't IMAP 143 (or 993 if you're using imaps)?
[03:29] <enyc> olicat: I thought IMAP mas 143, not 431
[03:29] <n00b> brenner: reading over it now
[03:32] <wolwer> has ubuntu group of packages? example task-c++-devel or someting like that?
[03:32] <gnudreamer>  im doing what is outlined in the wiki to update firefox I do this sudo apt-get install libstdc++5.....computer is reprinting my terminal login name over and over I cant getinto my application pulldown menu what is happeing?
[03:32] <n00b> brenner: what about this? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76652&highlight=grub+restore+howto
[03:32] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, enyc you're both right. connected now
[03:32] <Toma-> anyone tried compiling xorg 7.0 on ubuntu?
[03:33] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, enyc one more thing i'm trying to do though is login - does imap use my linux (/etc) user db, or something else?
[03:34] <brenner> n00b: so re-install grub?  if you're trying that, i'd suggest removing it 1st: boot off an xp cd, go into rescue mode, and run 'fixmbr'.  that way, you can see if the problem is if your xp install was borked, or if it is a true grub error
[03:34] <sarah10> with apt-get coommand how can i remove completely a prog?
[03:35] <olicat> and thanks, by the way :)
[03:35] <gnomefreak> sarah10: sudo apt-get remove --purge program
[03:35] <colinl> Hi
[03:35] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: By default I think courier uses PAM, so yes
[03:35] <colinl> Anyone here running Dapper and has an HP Laserjet printer?
[03:35] <albacker> how can i upload when im connected to the server using ssh /
[03:36] <n00b> brenner: i can still boot into XP though if i change around the hard drives in the bios
[03:36] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, using Cyrus here, not sure what that uses
[03:36] <n00b> brenner: i really doubt its an XP error
[03:36] <brenner> n00b: then what was that "replace system disk" thingy?
[03:36] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: then I'm not sure - try it and see?
[03:37] <n00b> brenner: well, i used to have another windows installation on one of the drives... i think grubber is trying to boot that one
[03:37] <jpoa> hi there
[03:37] <gnudreamer> is paste offline?
[03:37] <jpoa> anyone here using Wvolution?
[03:37] <jpoa> *evolution
[03:37] <pl_ice> cyphase turned out that it's the <meta> options that bugs out the web :/
[03:38] <gnudreamer> is pastebin offline?
[03:38] <lowman62> jpoa: yes
[03:38] <brenner> n00b: in that case i guess reinstalling grub is a good idea
[03:38] <n00b> ok
[03:38] <n00b> brenner: ok
[03:38] <n00b> brenner: will be back if it doesnt work :P
[03:38] <jpoa> lowman62, can you tell me how can i select which folder evolution will use to store emails and so on?
[03:39] <lowman62> jpoa: one second I will give you an answer...hold on
[03:39] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, hmm, it's using pam (thanks), but trying to login returns "LOGIN BAD"
[03:39] <jpoa> Thanks lowman62
[03:39] <ago_> how i can install cinelerra on my ubuntu?
[03:39] <lowman62> np
[03:39] <Toma-> !info cinelerra
[03:40] <Toma-> hmm
[03:40] <Toma-> ago_: yeh you can, you'll need to find your own package for it tho
[03:40] <pl_ice> !cinelerra
[03:40] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, pl_ice
[03:40] <pl_ice> !beer
[03:40] <brenner> isn't it cinerella?
[03:40] <lowman62> jpoa: do you mean locally on your computer or within the program itself?
[03:40] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Anything in the server logs?
[03:41] <ago_> locally!
[03:41] <jpoa> Locally on the computer, like for example /jpoa/mails
[03:41] <Jarno> hello!!!
[03:41] <lowman62> jpoa: ok one second
[03:42] <Jarno> there are the girl here?
[03:42] <gnomefreak> Jarno: this is a support chat for ubuntu if you want to just chat use #ubuntu-offtopic please
[03:43] <Jarno> ok
[03:43] <Jarno> thanks
[03:43] <Tired_> Hello.  I was wondering if anyone had experience setting up MythTV under Ubuntu, and if there's any common problems I should look out for.
[03:43] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, hmm i think i was on a wild goose chase. i was trying to login with "LOGIN username pwd", but i need to use "01 LOGIN username pwd"
[03:43] <brenner> lol
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: yeah, there's a wiki about it, I think
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !mythtv
[03:43] <ubotu> I heard mythtv is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[03:43] <Tired_> Awesome!  Thanks  :)
[03:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> np :)
[03:44] <sexcopter8000m> is there a command or other means to find the speed of my processor in mhz?
[03:44] <phos-phoros> people watch tv? who would've though?
[03:44] <Tired_> I assume Ubuntu alows different window managers than Gnome...right?
[03:44] <lowman62> jpoa: am still working on it for you
[03:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: Yeah: check Kubuntu and Xubuntu
[03:45] <jpoa> Ok lowman62 i'm patient :)
[03:45] <Kr0ntab> sexcopter8000m: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[03:45] <lowman62> jpoa: thank you i am using the livecd so am slower than normal LOL :P
[03:45] <brenner> Tired_: or just install a different DE after install
[03:45] <Tired_> Oh.  You need a different distro to use a different WM?  I was going to use EvilWM
[03:45] <sexcopter8000m> thanks Kr0ntab
[03:45] <olicat> SaneEnglishMonk, one thing that is odd though, is that i always get "127.0.0.1: connection refused", but it tries ::1, and it cnnects
[03:46] <gnomefreak> there has to be something im missing :(
[03:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: No you don't, they're all in the repository.
[03:46] <Tired_> Sweet  :)
[03:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: There's even a package (like kubuntu-desktop) that'll handle all the dependencies for you.
[03:47] <Tired_> Ubuntu uses .deb, iirc
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> yup
[03:47] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, has some package for development?
[03:47] <Ng> olicat: that sounds like ipv6 is confusing the issue a little
[03:47] <SaneEnglishMonk> olicat: Odd.  Don't know much about IPv6.  Do you know which address it's listening on?
[03:47] <sarah10> how can i edit a file in shell (txt
[03:47] <sarah10> ?
[03:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wolwer: Like 'build-essential'?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> lowman62:  is your update-notifier working?
[03:48] <sarah10> how can i edit a file in shell (txt
[03:48] <sarah10> )?
[03:48] <guim> hi all
[03:48] <gnomefreak> sarah10: sudo gedit path/to/file/for/edit
[03:48] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, that install gcc flex bison automake .....
[03:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: nano /path/to/file
[03:48] <guim> I have something strange in gnome
[03:48] <brenner> Tired_: there's a package manager installed by default.  and the apt commands aren't too hard to learn
[03:48] <olicat> Ng, SaneEnglishMonk the machine is on 10.10.10.110
[03:48] <lowman62> gnomefreak: am using the livecd till I move...i iggy the notifier
[03:48] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, build-essential do that?
[03:48] <gnomefreak> :(
[03:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> wolwer: Most of that, yeah... I don't recall the exact packages.
[03:48] <olicat> Ng, SaneEnglishMonk no idea where the ipv6 stuff has come into it
[03:49] <wolwer> PuMpErNiCkLe, tks
[03:49] <gnomefreak> my notifier crashed on install of fl 3 and hasnt come back :(
[03:49] <Tired_> I know apt-get, although I'm not familiar with gui apt tools...shouldn't be too hard to learn
[03:49] <Ng> olicat: well ubuntu loads the ipv6 kernel module by default unfortunately
[03:49] <brenner> Tired_: if you know apt-get, you're set
[03:49] <Tired_> sweet  :)
[03:49] <sarah10> gnomefreak:  PuMpErNiCkLe  how can i create a new file form shell? i want to create file my.cnf for examlpe
[03:50] <sarah10> !
[03:50] <Tired_> How 'cutting edge' are the Ubuntu repositories?
[03:50] <Kr0ntab> olicat: netstat -an  will show you what it's listening on....
[03:50] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, sarah10
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: they're from october
[03:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: Just save it as that file name in nano.
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: ubuntu doesn't introduce new versions of packages until the next stable release (april)
[03:50] <sarah10> otherwise?
[03:50] <Kr0ntab> olicat: I found that some of my service also chose the ipv6 protocol as well....   I chose to disable ipv6 all together
[03:50] <Tired_> oh.  is there a way to install packages newer than october, without compiling from source?
[03:50] <Ng> Tired_: some things might be backported, but generally nope
[03:50] <lowman62> jpoa: I believe this is where I got the info about that http://www.kitchenlab.org/www/bmah/Notes/evolution.html
[03:51] <Tired_> darn.  ivtv doesn't support my tv card yet
[03:51] <olicat> Kr0ntab, when i grep for 143 from netstat, i get a load of "ESTABLISHED", and 1 listen :::143 and :::*
[03:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: echo "" > /path/to/my.cnf
[03:51] <sarah10> ok
[03:51] <sarah10> tnx my ove!
[03:51] <lowman62> gnomefreak: what?? it crashed??
[03:51] <sarah10> tnx my love!
[03:51] <gnudreamer> ok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?
[03:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sarah10: np o_O
[03:52] <Tired_> if I choose to compile it from the source, will that cause problems down the road?
[03:52] <brenner> i recommend checkinstall
[03:52] <Tired_> with the package system, I mean
[03:52] <reddick> cd Desktop dude
[03:52] <jpoa> lowman62, thanks
[03:52] <Kr0ntab> you running an IMAP server?
[03:52] <lowman62> jpoa: yw :)
[03:52] <Kr0ntab> olicat: ?
[03:52] <gnomefreak> lowman62: crashed it gave an error about fo/something see if that is installed and the notifier hasnt been seen since that was yesterday afternoon :(
[03:52] <gnudreamer> bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory
[03:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: It shouldn't, unless it's a major component like glibc and you use really weird compile options o_O
[03:53] <Tired_> no, no, just the card driver
[03:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: Then no. :)
[03:53] <lowman62> gnomefreak: try sudo apt-get update and see what happens
[03:53] <olicat> Kr0ntab, that was some of the output from netstat
[03:53] <Printer> Godd Day All.
[03:53] <Tired_> cool.  I guess I'll give it a shot and report my findings on the wiki (my card is newer than the one the wiki author used)
[03:54] <Tired_> thanks a lot for your advice.  :)
[03:54] <Kr0ntab> olicat: a way to get around your problem would be to specify what address your service is suppose to listen on.  or disable ipv6 all together.
[03:54] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Tired_: np :)
[03:55] <simonx> hello
[03:55] <gnudreamer> ok I realize I'm ignorant but how do I get into the desktop from /home directory?
[03:55] <gnudreamer> by the way im a super sexy woman
[03:55] <gnudreamer> lol
[03:55] <Toma-> sif
[03:55] <lowman62> gnudreamer: cd Desktop
[03:55] <ccc_> gnudreamer: /home/username/Desktop/
[03:56] <gnudreamer> yeah i tried that and got this error
[03:56] <Toma-> gnudreamer: also, cd ~/Desktop
[03:56] <lowman62> or cd /home/username/Desktop
[03:56] <gnudreamer> bash: cd: Desktop: No such file or directory
[03:56] <brenner> gnudreamer: <reddick> cd Desktop dude
[03:56] <guim> in gnome :
[03:56] <guim>  creating a zip archive won't work when there is an empty folder to add to the zip
[03:56] <simonx> i own an old epson stylus color 440. it is officially supported but if i want to prin sth. the only thing i get is ascii code ... i tried turboprint etc., are there any clues to my problem?
[03:56] <guim> has anyone ever seen this before?
[03:56] <brenner> gnudreamer: then you ain't in your /home/<username>
[03:56] <guim> and ther is no error message
[03:56] <Toma-> simonx: youre printing in postscript mode
[03:57] <simonx> Toma-: How can I change the mode?
[03:57] <gnudreamer> cd ~/desktop worked
[03:57] <Toma-> simonx: not sure... dont have printing on this PC :(
[03:57] <gnudreamer> ty I apologize for being slow
[03:57] <ccc_> gnudreamer: great. and that's the best method, since it doesn't depend on in which dir your are currently located
[03:57] <simonx> Toma-: ok thanks
[03:57] <lowman62> gnudreamer: if you type just cd and hit enter that will automatically put you in your home directory ;)
[03:58] <gnudreamer> andy trick
[03:58] <gnudreamer> handy trick
[03:58] <Toma-> simonx: wish i could be oh more use :/
[03:58] <Toma-> simonx: is it a big page of ascii with some words up the top?
[03:58] <simonx> Does anybody know how to change the print mode (not postscript)?
[03:58] <gnudreamer> sweet one of these days im going to write some software that creates free energy for everyone
[03:58] <simonx> Toma: no only 3 lines
[03:59] <Toma-> simonx: AHH i get that on my other PC...
[03:59] <damien_> Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?
[03:59] <lowman62> gnudreamer: I could use some energy :P
[03:59] <simonx> Toma-: It does not matter if i print out a testpage or something else
[03:59] <Toma-> simonx: thats not postscript... it usually happens when you have too much in your print list
[03:59] <gnudreamer> check your thyroid in the meantime.....go have sushi tonight with wasabi and kelp!
[03:59] <simonx> Toma-: I cannot follow you ? !
[04:00] <_jacob> hello world
[04:00] <simonx> Toma-: How can i empty my print list?
[04:00] <lowman62> gnudreamer: you know i never liked sushi till they cooked it for me ;)
[04:00] <gnudreamer> haha
[04:00] <_jacob> question: "set -o vi" is not working for me, anyone?
[04:00] <Toma-> simonx: somewhere in Apps > System tools > Printing or something??? ive completely removed printing from this PC :(
[04:00] <gnudreamer> seriously thugh if you have low energy probs look into your thyroid
[04:00] <_jacob> $SHELL=XTERM
[04:01] <Toma-> _jacob: 'man set'
[04:01] <Eddie> how force apt-get to install from the internet, im ssh'd into my box from work and it wants the CD to install php
[04:01] <trappist> jarlev: what is that supposed to do?  are you trying to export EDITOR=vim ?
[04:01] <Toma-> check your tab completion :)
[04:01] <_jacob> no manuel entry
[04:02] <brenner> Eddie: comment out the cd source in /etc/apt/sources.list then update
[04:02] <Eddie> thanks ;)
[04:02] <Toma-> _jacob: set wont do anything like that.... what are u trying to do anyway?
[04:02] <blekos> hello guys
[04:02] <_jacob> Toma-: trying to set my shell to vi
[04:02] <blekos> anyone know how i can update gnome via dapper drake repos?
[04:02] <_jacob> works on redhat
[04:02] <Toma-> vi isnt a shell....
[04:03] <Printer> Anyone get gnome-pilot to work with a palm in dapper?  jpilot works awesome but gnome-pilot cannot find the device.
[04:03] <lowman62> umm last i checked vi was an editor..and not a very good one at that :P
[04:03] <_jacob> i know but there is an option to set vi commands as shell commands
[04:03] <blekos> vi is a great editor, u need 2 get familiar with it
[04:03] <Toma-> _jacob: you really dont want vi as a shell.
[04:03] <lowman62> blekos: i hear ya...i will stick with vim tho ;)
[04:04] <blekos> :)
[04:04] <trappist> _jacob: I think maybe you're trying to put your shell in vi *mode* so vim keybindings work?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> vi is good just hard to use for some people
[04:04] <_jacob> first of vi=vim for me
[04:04] <_jacob> i am trying to do this
[04:04] <_jacob> http://www.kingcomputerservices.com/unix_101/using_history_and_command_line_editing.htm
[04:04] <qt4x11> hi
[04:04] <gnomefreak> vi and vim are not the same
[04:04] <trappist> gnomefreak: it's incredibly easy to use.  just hard to *learn*.
[04:04] <qt4x11> whereis sendmail.cf on a default ubuntu installation?
[04:04] <gnomefreak> :)
[04:04] <ncnite> Printer - I assume you enabled the conduits?  Gnome: system-preferences-PalmOS
[04:04] <_jacob> trappist: exactly
[04:04] <_jacob> how do i do that
[04:04] <lowman62> vi is good vim is vi improved so was just kidding :P
[04:04] <lowman62> geesh! :P
[04:05] <lowman62> thansk toma was thirsty
[04:05] <damien_> Anyone here with lots of knowledge about RFCOMM?
[04:05] <Toma-> _jacob: that command will only work if youre using korn shell
[04:05] <Ng> damien_: a little, 'sup?
[04:05] <mirak_> hi, does anyone uses a logitech quickcam pro 5000 with linux ?
[04:05] <trappist> _jacob: set -o vi :)
[04:05] <lowman62> damien_: I can honestly say.....NO! sorry
[04:05] <Toma-> bash>ksh
[04:05] <_jacob> so your saying first change bash to korn then do that?
[04:06] <qt4x11> any good tutorials for setting up mailman w sendmail on ubuntu?
[04:06] <Toma-> _jacob: just like this how-to says
[04:06] <trappist> _jacob: no
[04:06] <damien_> Ng, trying to get my bluetoothheadset working with breezy, but i get "Can't connect RFCOMM channel: Host is down" when connecting to it with btsco
[04:06] <Toma-> sif 'set -o vi' would work in bash
[04:06] <brenner> out of interest, what distros use a shell other than bash as default?  i don't think i've ever used one
[04:06] <Printer> ncnite:  Hmmm.  I have no such entry on my menu.
[04:06] <Toma-> :O!!!!!!!!! errors in my xorg 6.9 build :~~(
[04:07] <yatesy> brenner: BSD
[04:07] <blekos> do u know how i can upgrade to dapper drake?
[04:07] <owner> did ubuntu release a new kernel
[04:07] <_jacob> i'm stumpt
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:07] <ubotu> dapper is, like, totally, The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[04:07] <owner> because it wants to update one
[04:07] <brenner> yatesy: ah, thanks
[04:07] <owner> 2.6.12-10 but i already have 2.6.12-10- installed
[04:07] <blekos> i c
[04:07] <Ng> damien_: well you can configure rfcomm channels manually with the rfcomm tool and its "bind" option
[04:08] <Toma-> _jacob: just run 'ksh'
[04:08] <lowman62> gnomefreak: you get your updater back?
[04:08] <Toma-> if you have it
[04:08] <_jacob> Toma-: bash: ksh: command not found
[04:08] <Printer> ncnite:  I enabled it in the menu now.  It's there.
[04:08] <ncnite> Printer - you may need to use your Synaptic Pkg Mgr and add Gnome-Pilot and Gnome-Pilot-Conduits
[04:08] <_jacob> apt-get i assume
[04:09] <Toma-> you bet.
[04:09] <Printer> ncnite:  I get it to the point where it says "press the HotSync button".  It just stays there.  I have the port as /dev/ttyUSB1.
[04:09] <skycowboy> Hello ?
[04:10] <Toma-> hi
[04:10] <skycowboy> Don't think we odd first time use linux
[04:10] <overrider> how is ubuntus chinese support? like gnomes menus, applications etc?
[04:10] <Ng> overrider: if you install scim for the typing side of things it ought to be pretty good
[04:10] <owner> 2.6.12-10.26 must be a new ubuntu kernel
[04:10] <ncnite> Printer - heads up... my 5.2 TE sync'd ok on calendar (if you don't mind all categories in one) and contacts w/ Evolution.  but I had to reenable a time or two.
[04:10] <gnudreamer> i love ubuntu
[04:11] <skycowboy> I repair windows base systems all the time but this is hard
[04:11] <ncnite> Printer - I set the conduits to get it from the palm.
[04:11] <brenner> anyone get standby/hibernate functionality on their laptop on ubuntu?
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i love irssi :)
[04:11] <Kyral> as do I
[04:11] <Kyral> Irssi owns all
[04:11] <Juhaz> brenner, yes
[04:11] <Printer> ncnite.  K.  I'll keep on trying.  I'm really glad that jpilot works so good though.
[04:11] <Kyral> I <3 Irssi + Screen
[04:11] <_jacob> ok gotit thanks guys, be healthy
[04:11] <Ng> brenner: hibernate works for me, but not suspend
[04:11] <Toma-> owner: yep. new kernel has been released
[04:11] <skycowboy> yes to linux
[04:11] <gnomefreak> i started using it yesterday :)
[04:11] <Juhaz> brenner, both
[04:11] <deefzi> the original developer of irssi lives somewhere very near my house. can i get a bonus? :P
[04:11] <ncnite> Printer - hope that helped
[04:11] <gnomefreak> Kyral: same set up as me
[04:11] <owner> where can i see the changes
[04:11] <brenner> Ng, Juhaz: did you get it on default install, or do i need to config something?
[04:12] <Ng> brenner: this is just a default install
[04:12] <Printer> ncnite:  You bet.  Thanks.
[04:12] <brenner> when i close the lid, it just goes to sleep i.e. screen turns off
[04:12] <skycowboy> Just installed flash player and i was a pain
[04:12] <gnomefreak> !flash
[04:12] <ubotu> restricted is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[04:12] <benkong2> how can i see the status of rc.d scripts. On shutdown i get an error kdm not started
[04:12] <skycowboy> why can't things just lonch
[04:12] <damien_> Ng, pm
[04:12] <Kyral> benkong2: do you run both GDM and KDM?
[04:12] <deefzi> does nautilus and xmms support the "queue song"-function?
[04:13] <brenner> Ng: i'm guessing this kernel won't work for my laptop then...
[04:13] <gnomefreak> if you add the right repos its becomes very very easy i think it is sudo apt-get install flash :)
[04:13] <benkong2> they are both installed using gdm at the moment
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: thats normal then
[04:13] <depl0y> yay!!!!!!
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: KDM is trying to shut down...but since its not running ;P
[04:13] <owner> why didnt ubuntu release a 2.6.15 kernel for breezy
[04:13] <blekos> is there a way to see which is the biggest file/ folder in my pc?
[04:13] <benkong2> Kyral; ok i thought i could just remove one from the rc.d folder
[04:13] <depl0y> I got the new bcm43xx driver working!!
[04:13] <depl0y> without ndiswrapper
[04:13] <gnomefreak> owner: its used in dapper
[04:13] <depl0y> woooehoooe
[04:13] <Kyral> benkong2: you can try the sysv-rc-conf package
[04:14] <Toma-> owner: they dont do major release updates
[04:14] <blekos> my installed programs etc takes about 4gb... and i want to c what this is ...
[04:14] <gnomefreak> owner: its unstable
[04:14] <skycowboy> is there a good video editor for linux
[04:14] <owner> 2.6.15 is stable now
[04:14] <benkong2> so if i want to change back to kdm is it just a matter of editing /etx/X11/default-display-manager?
[04:14] <Kyral> benkong2: But you have to realize, all things you do there are IMMEADIATE
[04:14] <MacSlow> owner, free or commercial?
[04:14] <skycowboy> i will try both
[04:14] <gnomefreak> owner: still not stable yet
[04:14] <benkong2> k thanks
[04:14] <Ng> owner: ubuntu don't release new versions of their packages after a release is out. dapper will be out in april and have 2.6.15
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, ups... was meant for you
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, so free or commercial?
[04:15] <blekos> y dapper drake is goint to have 3years of support? r they thinking of stopping after that?
[04:15] <Toma-> oh dear....
[04:15] <skycowboy> free for now unless commercial has a trial ver.
[04:15] <MacSlow> skycowboy, commercial: MainActor, shake (very expensive... but more a compositing program)
[04:15] <gnomefreak> stopping what?
[04:16] <MacSlow> skycowboy, MainActor has a free trial... I think
[04:16] <MacSlow> skycowboy, I don't think for shake there's an evaluation-version.
[04:17] <lowman62_away> .
[04:17] <knubbe-> is there a way to log my wlan connection? alert/write to file if it goes down
[04:17] <MacSlow> skycowboy, free movie-editors... hm... I only know of programs that are still in development... Diva, pitivi
[04:17] <gnudreamer> any hints on forcing my wireless card to broadcast as a wireless access point?
[04:18] <owner> xvid macslow
[04:18] <MacSlow> owner, hm... I don't know that one
[04:18] <owner> its pretty popular
[04:18] <MacSlow> owner, I know 3D-apps a bit better
[04:18] <knubbe-> is xvid considered a movie editor?
[04:19] <owner> its a video codec
[04:19] <MacSlow> owner, skycowboy: doesn't blender have a kind of "movie-editor" by  now... or something similar.
[04:19] <brenner> isn't cinelerra free?
[04:19] <Planker> I am very new to linux/ubuntu. Sorry, if this a silly question. I just installed a program. I can run it from the terminal by typing cd /usr/local/chandler and then ./release/RunChandler .....if i wanted to make a launcher on the desktop for it, is it possible? what command would i need to put in for the launcher?
[04:20] <owner> you can create launchers by right clicking and selecting launcher
[04:20] <damien_> Ng, still there?
[04:20] <owner> in gnome
[04:20] <Ng> damien_: yep, I didn't get any messages though
[04:20] <Planker> i cant figure out the command i'd need to enter for the launcher though.
[04:20] <damien_> odd
[04:20] <Ng> brenner: it is, but it's also terrifically complicated to use
[04:20] <brenner> Planker: /usr/local/chandler/release/RunChandler i'd assume
[04:20] <Ng> damien_: I think there is something about having to register with NickServ on this IRC network before you can /msg people
[04:20] <MacSlow> skycowboy, there's a dedicated site to art-creation software under Linux.
[04:20] <owner> do whereis programname
[04:20] <brenner> Planker: i.e. connect the dots
[04:20] <damien_> oh
[04:21] <damien_> Ng,  quess i'll do that first then :D
[04:21] <Ng> skycowboy: avidemux is pretty simple, but works. kino is pretty good if you are working with DV
[04:21] <theine> is the dapper kernel compiled with gcc-3.4 or gcc-4.0?
[04:21] <Kyral> 4.0
[04:21] <Kyral> I think
[04:21] <theine> and how does one find that out btw?
[04:22] <Kyral> uname -a?
[04:22] <theine> Kyral, thanks, but I'd like to be sure
[04:22] <Ng> Kyral: cat /proc/version
[04:22] <theine> Kyral, no
[04:22] <Kyral> oh lol
[04:22] <Kyral> good to know
[04:22] <theine> Ng, that's it, thanks
[04:22] <Ng> :)
[04:23] <brenner> MacSlow: what site'd that be?
[04:24] <MacSlow> brenner, I'm just trying to remember the URL... a bit along the line www.linuxartists.org
[04:24] <tzfardea> Hey I have a problem, I can't change the keyboard layout
[04:24] <MacSlow> But that's not it
[04:24] <tzfardea> I found some threads but nothing helped
[04:24] <tzfardea> When i'm using setxkbmap to change layout I get this error
[04:24] <tzfardea> Error loading new keyboard description
[04:24] <gnomefreak> the dapper kernel is compiled with 4.0 im almost sure of that
[04:25] <tzfardea> I also checked the xorg.conf file and it looks fine
[04:25] <tzfardea> What can I do?
[04:26] <Planker> the readme file says the program is such that i cant run the program by typing ./RunChander while i'm in the release directory, that it will only run if i navigate to the 'chandler' directory and then do the ./release/RunChandler. :-/
[04:26] <reddick> tzfardea, what's your problem one more time ?
[04:27] <tzfardea> I can't change the keyboard layout
[04:27] <pl_ice> hey, i need some hand with www, re-directing, firefox works cool, u/d IE it's stuck, anyone?
[04:27] <reddick> on witch ? some like CZ ?
[04:27] <tzfardea> I am trying to change the layout to us,il, if you mean that
[04:27] <colinl> Each time I do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade, I get some "The following packages have been kept back: blah"
[04:28] <colinl> how do I upgrade these packages?
[04:28] <brenner> Planker: that's kinda weird
[04:28] <reddick> edit this line
[04:28] <reddick>         Option          "XkbLayout"     "cz,us"
[04:28] <Kyral> colinl: in Dapper or Breezy?
[04:28] <colinl> Kyral: Dapper, sorry
[04:28] <Kyral> colinl: in dapper you need to use dist-upgrade
[04:28] <tzfardea> I already did this, but it didn't help
[04:28] <colinl> Kyral: each time?
[04:28] <Kyral> upgrade doesn't remove packages to satisfy the upgrade, dist will
[04:29] <Kyral> colinl: yah
[04:29] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7323
[04:29] <colinl> Kyral: great, thanks!
[04:29] <gnudreamer> totem dvd issue
[04:29] <owner> how can i enable rar support in ubuntu
[04:29] <reddick> so try to reboot. BTW are you using gnome ?
[04:29] <Kyral> owner: sudo apt-get install rar unrar-nonfree
[04:29] <tzfardea> No, I am using ion2
[04:29] <twitch101> how do i figure out what type of filesystem my external cdr/rw drive is?
[04:29] <gnudreamer> after running restricted formats wiki
[04:29] <brenner> owner: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[04:29] <tzfardea> I tried to reboot... didn't help again
[04:30] <reddick> well have no exprience with that one .. sorry
[04:30] <owner> thanks kyral and brenner
[04:30] <tzfardea> ok thanks...
[04:30] <twitch101> can anyone tell me how to figure out the filesystem of my external cdr/rw burner
[04:30] <Kyral> too many Dapper upgrades this morning
[04:30] <Planker> brenner: yeah, i thought so. the readme says "You will need to change to the chandler subdirectory, then type release/RunChandler. Note that you must be in the chandler directory; you cannot change to the release directory and type ./RunChandler". So, there's probably no easy way to make a launcher, you think
[04:30] <Planker> ?
[04:30] <Kyral> twitch101: its prolly UDF-8 or ISO<something>
[04:30] <TomBee> I'm remastering the ubuntu livecd, is there a way of taking a list of packages from one livecd, then using that list to add/remove packages from a new livecd?
[04:31] <twitch101> ok...
[04:31] <colinl> Still about Dapper, I noticed breakage of my HP laser printer, after investigation it looks like the culprit is the recent upgrade of udev and/or incompatibility with the vanilla 2.6.15 kernel
[04:31] <colinl> basically, /dev/usblp0 when hplip expects /dev/usb/lp0
[04:31] <Kyral> the 2.6.15 isn't vanilla...
[04:31] <brenner> Planker: i don't personally know how you would do it, no.
[04:31] <colinl> Kyral: mine is :)
[04:31] <MacSlow> brenner, hm... it should be at www.linuxartist.org
[04:32] <Kyral> colinl: then use the Ubuntu kernel lol
[04:32] <MacSlow> brenner, but it doesn't load for me here atm.
[04:32] <brenner> not for me either
[04:32] <colinl> It lacks a few crappy patches I have :)
[04:32] <Kyral> oy
[04:32] <brenner> but thanks for the URL
[04:32] <Planker> alright. thanks anyways though. i was worried it was something simple that i was just overlooking. :)
[04:32] <Ng> colinl: don't tell us, report a bug or something ;)
[04:32] <blekos> anyone can tell me how i can upgrade gnome?
[04:32] <Kyral> blekos: to?
[04:33] <Kyral> blekos: and are you in Breezy?
[04:33] <colinl> Ng, yes, just wanted to see if anyone else had the problem
[04:33] <Ng> blekos: if you really want to, jhbuild, or upgrade to dapper. neither is an especially good plan though
[04:33] <twitch101> omg can someone please write me out the mount command for the damn thing if i give you the fstab or the "dmesg" write out of the device
[04:33] <MacSlow> brenner, ah... now it loads again.
[04:33] <twitch101> cause i cant get it to work
[04:33] <colinl> twitch101: to mount a cd ?
[04:33] <twitch101> external cdburner
[04:33] <blekos> hm, i didnt mean to jump directly to dapper just gnome
[04:33] <Kyral> twitch101: sudo mount -t <device> <mountpoint>
[04:33] <deefzi> is adobe's or some other acrobat reader available from repositories?
[04:33] <blekos> maybe firefox as well :)
[04:34] <Kyral> blekos: Dapper's GNOME will NOT be backported to Breezy
[04:34] <Ng> deefzi: evince should be installed by default
[04:34] <colinl> twitch101: sudo mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom
[04:34] <Kyral> same with Firefox
[04:34] <twitch101> so i do the UDF before the acvutal /dev
[04:34] <deefzi> Ng, oh. then i have to fix it to work w/ opera. ty.
[04:34] <blekos> that means i shoud do dist-upgrade...
[04:35] <Ng> deefzi: the adobe acrobat reader is in multiverse it would seem though - package is called acroread
[04:35] <blekos> ?
[04:35] <Ng> Kyral: I used to have it and I still don't understand it ;)
[04:35] <Kyral> Then again I use Dapper
[04:36] <Kyral> but I also use stuff that hasn't been updated in like years (Fluxbox, Irssi)
[04:36] <blekos> Kyral r u on Dapper???? ??
[04:36] <Kyral> blekos: yah
[04:36] <deefzi> Ng, ok. but if evince is as good as acroread, then i won't bother downloading extra-packages. or if you've used both, what's your opinion?
[04:36] <blekos> does it work?
[04:36] <Kyral> so far
[04:36] <Kyral> but I think breakage is about to hit
[04:36] <blekos> lol
[04:36] <Kyral> Beagle is disabled though
[04:37] <Ng> deefzi: well I like evince because it's integrated into gnome, where acroread stands out and looks nasty, but I have hit a few obscure PDFs that will only open in acroread, so I have both installed
[04:37] <blekos> when u installed it, were the files of the previous version removed or u needed extra space?
[04:37] <Kyral> blekos: I have a massive HD. I have KDE, XFCE, GNOME, Enlightenment, and Fluxbox installed
[04:37] <Kyral> HD Space is NOT an issue ;P
[04:38] <deefzi> Ng, ok. maybe it's worth installing, then.
[04:38] <Kyral> I just find stability boring :P
[04:38] <olicat> hi again all. when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)
[04:38] <yatesy> all those apps are hardly a lot of space :P
[04:38] <olicat> does anyone know where i configure the system to use imap?
[04:38] <gnudreamer> Im trying to enable dma, I'm following the wiki, I get some errors. ( http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7325) what is a command to figure out which drive ie. hdc hdb my dvd drive is?
[04:38] <blekos> :)
[04:38] <trappist> olicat: in your email client
[04:38] <Kyral> gnudreamer: look in FSTAB?
[04:38] <twitch101> how would i edit the ftab file to accomodate this "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"
[04:38] <gnudreamer> ok
[04:38] <blekos> did worth the upgrading though?
[04:38] <Kyral> twitch101: find out that /dev entry it is
[04:39] <twitch101> how?
[04:39] <Kyral> blekos: /me shrugs
[04:39] <Kyral> twitch101: put a disc in?
[04:39] <twitch101> yea i did
[04:39] <Kyral> or tab complete /dev/
[04:39] <olicat> isn't it a server configuration? since the imap server isn't getting the mail?
[04:39] <trappist> twitch101: /dev/sda1 /media/whatever auto defaults 0 0
[04:40] <pl_ice> done , IE doesn't know what's ./ is :) hehheh where firefox does(if someone had read my question above...)
[04:40] <poningru> pl_ice: what question?
[04:41] <twitch101> yea it doesnt work
[04:41] <twitch101> thanks for tryin tho
[04:41] <pl_ice> poningru re-directions didn't work u/d IE, whereas it worked u/d firefox, couse IE does not like ./ shortcuts in the html lang.
[04:41] <olicat> any ideas why when sending mail with sendmail (postfix) to a local user, if i try to view that users mail store via imap, there's nothing there (i think it just goes to their regular mailbox)
[04:42] <gnudreamer> where is fstab?
[04:42] <deefzi> gnudreamer, /etc
[04:42] <gnudreamer> ah
[04:43] <trappist> olicat: postfix (or procmail) needs to deliver the mail to the same place imap expects to find it
[04:43] <pl_ice> is in /etc/fstab
[04:43] <deefzi> gnudreamer, for future 'updatedb && locate [filename] '
[04:43] <gnudreamer> cool
[04:43] <jrattner> Where is Document root and the CGI bin for apache2?
[04:43] <Kyral> jrattner: DocumentRoot is default /var/www
[04:43] <deefzi> gnudreamer, although locate only, not wise to updatedb every time you wanna search something. run it only when you are certain that you should get something hits with the locate command, but you don't
[04:43] <Kyral> dunno about cgi-bin
[04:44] <Ng>  /usr/lib/cgi-bin
[04:44] <jrattner> Kyral, not /var/www/apache2-default?
[04:44] <Kyral> jrattner: nope
[04:44] <deefzi> gnudreamer, you could put updatedb in cron
[04:44] <gnudreamer> in fstab where dvd cd rw drive should read as such it calls it cdrom1
[04:44] <jrattner> Kyral thanks
[04:44] <Kyral> jrattner: At least in Debian's it is lol
[04:44] <pl_ice> anyone from ireland? ....
[04:45] <Ng> jrattner: it's set in /etc/apache2/sites-enabled/000-default, look for DocumentRoot
[04:45] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326
[04:45] <blekos> mayb i should wait then ... :/
[04:45] <Kyral> This is gonna be one helluva prelink
[04:45] <StM> when i use wpa it doesn't work
[04:45] <brenner> deefzi: it's in there by default iirc
[04:45] <StM> without wpa it works nice...
[04:45] <deefzi> brenner, ok. what's the timeline?
[04:45] <olicat> trappist, any idea where that is configured?
[04:45] <pl_ice> eh, bed time :) c ya.
[04:45] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7327
[04:46] <gnudreamer> attempting to update dma
[04:46] <blekos> bye
[04:46] <brenner> deefzi: would /etc/cron.daily/slocate be it?
[04:46] <trappist> olicat: depends on what imap server you're using
[04:46] <icyvapor> ssid problem: everytime I reboot, my wireless config always change the format of ssid to Hex whereas my router uses plain ascii... where should I fix it
[04:46] <blekos> pl_ice
[04:46] <olicat> trappist, cyrus
[04:47] <trappist> olicat: I've never used cyrus.  might wanna consult the docs.
[04:47] <olicat> trappist, on some other type of imap system, what would the setting be called? (just so i have a starting point)
[04:47] <olicat> at the moment, i'm not sure what it is that i'm configuring
[04:48] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:48] <brenner> deefzi: all i know is each day i see activity in the system monitor applet, and when i do a top, updatedb is running
[04:49] <trappist> olicat: in courier it's MAILDIRPATH
[04:49] <gnomefreak> Kyral: are you using konsole for screen/irssi?
[04:49] <tristan> hello
[04:49] <jrattner> Last apache question, what user should I chown my files too
[04:49] <olicat> trappist, thanks, i'll look into it
[04:49] <Kyral> gnomefreak: xfce4-terminal
[04:49] <thgjerde> i am trying to upload a lot of files to a samba server, but for some reason the hard drives goes bananas with reads and writes. the upload speed is 3.5 MB/s, i would expect at least 30 MB/s
[04:49] <gnomefreak> :(
[04:49] <Kyral> or xterm
[04:49] <gnomefreak> i cant open links
[04:49] <gnudreamer> how do i get out o read only to edit hparm.conf file?
[04:50] <trappist> gnudreamer: use sudo to edit it as root
[04:50] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer: do you want to edit it or get out of it?
[04:50] <blekos> ppl when it try to listen to radio via firefox, i get the msg, totem could not play fd://0, the no decoders to handle stream
[04:50] <tristan> I have trouble launching my gnome session. It cannot launch properly because it says that there are errors when launching or saving gnome-segv
[04:51] <blekos> do u have any idea how i can fix that
[04:51] <jrattner> NG what user and group should my files be, root:root?
[04:51] <blekos> i mainly use vlc, for mp3 etc
[04:51] <j2daosh> anyone got a link for learning mysql? preferably a wiki or someshit?
[04:51] <gnudreamer> edit
[04:51] <caleb> Just installed Ubuntu, is there a default password for the root account? I am trying to 'su' and it's not taking my password
[04:51] <Kyral> j2daosh: mysql.com?
[04:51] <Kyral> ubotu tell caleb about RootSudo
[04:51] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell caleb about root
[04:51] <Ng> jrattner: it doesn't matter so much providing others can read them, or you can chown them to www-data:www-data which is the user/group that apache2 should be running as
[04:51] <trappist> j2daosh: the docs on the mysql site are very good
[04:51] <tristan> I reinstalled gnome-desktop-environment and gdm but it did not fix the problem
[04:51] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: switch to su, and chmod 700 your_file
[04:51] <j2daosh> !sudo
[04:51] <gnomefreak> Kyral: rootsudo isnt a command anymore :(
[04:51] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[04:52] <caleb> thanks
[04:52] <tristan> And I don't want to format
[04:52] <j2daosh> ur welcome
[04:52] <gnomefreak> <<<tried sudo sudoroot and root this am only root worked :(
[04:52] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: or if the file is yours.. just do it as yourself
[04:52] <j2daosh> gnome... whats going on?
[04:52] <Kyral> yah classtime
[04:53] <tristan> I can launch Xterm_failsafe (which I am currently on). I can launch ,firefox and so on but cannot launch nautilus
[04:53] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:53] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: maybe just "su"?
[04:53] <tristan> So I think that is why my gnome session won't load properly
[04:53] <gnomefreak> hi j2daosh
[04:53] <j2daosh> hows it hanging gnomefreak, what problem you having?
[04:53] <leonie> hi. i installed ubuntu for my mother and then changed the monitor. it had just 640x480, so i tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and i dont get a usable picture anymore
[04:54] <gnomefreak> using konsole with screen/irssi and cant get links to open :(
[04:54] <leonie> i mean, i get a picture, but gnome doesnt seem to like it. all the windows become black.
[04:54] <brenner> tristan: is this you error? http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117037&highlight=gnome_segv
[04:54] <j2daosh> konsole? like the knoppix konsole?
[04:54] <gnomefreak> j2daosh: like kde konsole
[04:55] <brenner> s/you/your
[04:55] <gnudreamer> icy ty that worked
[04:55] <j2daosh> ok yeah... knoppix terminal...lol well i dont know then... i know the terminal but i dont know what the screen irssi is...
[04:56] <tristan> brenner : exactly that's what is written
[04:56] <j2daosh> isn't that like another irc chat thing? cept it just uses a console instead of a proggie?
[04:56] <icyvapor> gnudreamer: np
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: I don't think it's supported
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> sal
[04:56] <gnudreamer> ;)
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> sa va fut
[04:56] <brenner> tristan: try the dist-upgrade as suggested
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> pe toti
[04:56] <dsfghdfgh> :))
[04:56] <gnomefreak> irssi is an irc client and sceen is something not real sure yet but it has lots of options from what i hear lol
[04:56] <gnudreamer> after making dma settings do i need to reboot
[04:56] <jrattner> Why can I see my webpage, only from the local network and not from the internet? Any clues on that one
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: screen is awesome.
[04:56] <tristan> brenner : this is not a new install
[04:56] <trappist> gnomefreak: it will change your life when you learn how to use it.
[04:56] <CarinArr> screen is extremely useful
[04:57] <alainlucas> how to compress a directory with a command line
[04:57] <gnomefreak> trappist: im sure it is just not real sure what im doing lol
[04:57] <brenner> tristan: can you think of anything that might have caused it?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> hy bro
[04:57] <j2daosh> zip file
[04:57] <j2daosh> "file"
[04:57] <CarinArr> it's not that complicated really
[04:57] <icyvapor> anyone know where I can find the config file for wireless?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <tristan> brenner : yes I had to shut down the computer by pressing 10 seconds the power button because the computer froze
[04:57] <gnomefreak> CarinArr: your talking to someone that cant figure out how to open links :(
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:57] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <gnomefreak> !ops
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> how to connect too *.undernet.org ?
[04:58] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[04:58] <leonie> dsfghdfgh, stop that, please.
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> pls
[04:58] <trappist> omg
[04:58] <leonie> dsfghdfgh, which client?
[04:58] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[04:58] <dsfghdfgh> help me pls
[04:58] <trappist> leonie: please don't feed them
[04:58] <j2daosh> dsf... open your server list and conect
[04:58] <Seveas> sigh
[04:58] <brenner> tristan: what caused the freeze?
[04:58] <leonie> trappist, sorry.
[04:58] <j2daosh> hey seveas
[04:58] <tristan> brenner : seems it was firefox
[04:58] <gnomefreak> well he was spamming :(
[04:59] <icyvapor> my ssid keeps using a hex format, but the plain ascii is what I want
[04:59] <Seveas> gnomefreak, I know, the sigh was aimed at him :)
[04:59] <gnomefreak> oh ok :)
[04:59] <brenner> tristan: i don't know to be honest.  one app freeze shouldn't cause entire system failure
[04:59] <imc_> Anyone running breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH1
[04:59] <icyvapor> I changed it in network-admin, but it won't ave the change results
[04:59] <tristan> I'll try what is said i the post you gave me
[05:00] <brenner> tristan: good luck
[05:00] <Seveas> !tell imc_ about anyone
[05:00] <leonie> does anyone have a great tip for my gnome-problem? i dont know what i did wrong. it doesnt show anything properly anymore since i did dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and thats bad ;(
[05:00] <tristan> brenner : thanks I need it
[05:00] <CarinArr> leonie, what do you mean it doesn't "show anything properly"
[05:00] <tristan> leonie : what is your graphic card? ati radeon?
[05:00] <leonie> tristan, no, its an old matrox.
[05:01] <brenner> CarinArr: i typed that sentence out exactly
[05:01] <leonie> CarinArr, the windows becone black and half of the background image is missing o_O
[05:01] <CarinArr> lol
[05:01] <imc_> Seveas, actually my ACTUAL question was whether, yes, anyone, in the room was running Breezy on an Averatec AV3715-EH1. Hence the form of my question :)
[05:01] <brenner> CarinArr: i want however many keypresses that took out of my life back please. :)
[05:01] <Ng> imc_: and if someone says yes you obviously have a followup question, that is what you're being asked to ask ;)
[05:02] <qsrv> hi I need help with evolution (2.4.1) on ubuntu
[05:02] <teclis> Hello, is their posibility with evolution to accept an SSL-certificate automatically? It's getting on my nerves to see the certificate-window everytime evolution starts.
[05:02] <imc_> But I do not have a followup
[05:02] <tristan> brenner : OK. I'm rebooting. I hope it will finally work. I don't want to use kde....
[05:02] <qsrv> I don't know what could be the cause, but since yesterday it does not retrieve emails from the servers (pop)
[05:02] <Ng> imc_: that begs the obvious question of why you are asking then ;)
[05:02] <brenner> tristan: good luck again
[05:02] <qsrv> it just reports the number of emails
[05:03] <CarinArr> leonie, does sound like it might be a videocard issue, but i'm hardly an expert
[05:03] <qsrv> and then sits there saying it's receiving email 1 of n
[05:03] <Seveas> imc_, hehe :)
[05:03] <qsrv> no network activity either
[05:04] <imc_> Ng, well, if *someone* is running it it was a good indication of the fact that SOMEONE got it running :)
[05:04] <qsrv> any ideas?
[05:04] <imc_> And as they say in the Navy, That is all.
[05:04] <imc_> :)
[05:04] <brenner> leonie: screenshot?
[05:04] <tsaberi> Hi all. I have got 5.10 Breezy running and I'm having trouble getting X to use the proper video driver. I have an intel mobo /w the i865 chipset. dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg does not seem to fix anything (i865 isn't in the controller list)
[05:05] <intero> ompaul: here it is, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence
[05:05] <nubuntu> my xmms stops between every song. it wasnt like this before. help!
[05:05] <imc_> I mean, you know, coming down to it, my job will buy me a new machine and I am teetering between an iBook and the AV3715-EH1 which is about the same price and will run out of the box. But the Averatec is an AMD machine and I've never owned an AMD based Laptop.
[05:05] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:05] <StM> debug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[05:05] <brenner> tsaberi: have you tried the vesa driver?
[05:07] <jrattner> Could someone go to www.dovertubular.com and tell me if the website loads?
[05:07] <tsaberi> brenner: is that the driver I should be using with this chipset ?
[05:07] <imc_> Works fine for me jrattner
[05:07] <jrattner> imc_, really, thats weird, why doesnt it load from within the network?
[05:07] <jrattner> odd
[05:07] <jrattner> but good then
[05:07] <brenner> tsaberi: it's sort of like the "failsafe"  almost every card should at least be able to get into X with it
[05:08] <Jemt> Greetings. I'm working on a little shell script that makes it easier for me to switch network profiles in Ubuntu. Is it possible to set a network interface to obtain the IP itself using a console program (ie ifconfig) ?
[05:08] <tsaberi> vesafb is listed when I runlsmod
[05:10] <leonie> brenner, the screenshot shows everything as it should be.
[05:10] <leonie> i will take a photo. *g*
[05:10] <brenner> leonie: heh. isn't that always the case?
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> hey... what is the binary for the keyboard shortcut too called?
[05:10] <brenner> leonie: you probably just chose a wrong setting or something when you reconfigured
[05:10] <Toba|BSD> I have no mouse and can't get to the menus
[05:11] <brenner> leonie: iirc, you should have a backup copy of the original xorg.conf file
[05:11] <ves> Say I've created a init.d script, what's the command to make it activate on boot again?
[05:11] <ves> rc-update?
[05:11] <leonie> brenner, i tried different settings.. :/
[05:11] <M3t4ll1k0> hi all
[05:11] <gnomefreak> ok what do i do to add a term to screen?
[05:11] <brenner> Toba|BSD: gnome-keybinding-properties
[05:11] <Toba|BSD> thx
[05:12] <brenner> gnomefreak: ctrl+a, n
[05:12] <M3t4ll1k0> can anyone help me to make work a a gamming whell in linux?
[05:12] <gnomefreak> ty brenner
[05:12] <M3t4ll1k0> it is a logitech momo racing
[05:12] <gnomefreak>  it says no other window
[05:13] <M3t4ll1k0> any I have no idea how to get it work
[05:13] <M3t4ll1k0> any idea?
[05:13] <Ng> gnomefreak: ctral+a, c
[05:13] <ninnghizidha> Hello! I need template-Help for OpenOffice ...
[05:13] <M3t4ll1k0> were I can find drivers?
[05:13] <wogi> morning ubuntuians!
[05:13] <brenner> my mistake.  been a while since i used it. sorry
[05:13] <Ng> gnomefreak: ctrl+a, n moves to the next term
[05:13] <Ng> gnomefreak: ctrl+a, ? shows all of the available commands
[05:14] <Ng> brenner: I'm not mighty, I've just been doing this for a while ;)
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> thank you brenner
[05:14] <brenner> why the ctrl+a?  what does a stand for? :)
[05:14] <brenner> Toba|BSD: np
[05:14] <Toba|BSD> bah xchat is useless with no mouse
[05:14] <Ng> brenner: dunno, you can remap it if you want. I guess maybe because it's easy - most of the useful shortcuts are all doable with just your left hand
[05:14] <jrattner> Does anyone have AWStats configured with Apache2?
[05:14] <CarinArr> toba|bsd, don't use xchat then;)
[05:15] <Toba|BSD> heh
[05:15] <Toba|BSD> I had the vain hope that ctrl+tab would move between chans
[05:15] <Toba|BSD> but no, it didn't
[05:15] <brenner> Ng: ah.
[05:15] <Jemt> I'm working on a little shell script that makes it easier for me to switch network profiles in Ubuntu. Is it possible to set a network interface to obtain the IP itself using a console program (ie ifconfig) ?
[05:15] <CarinArr> i've been considering switching to irsii, but i've been using epic for 7 years now and i'm stuck in a rut
[05:15] <ejofee> this may be some sort of a weird question, but is there any app which ensures a maximum sound volume per account? (some users on my computer tend to disturb my neighbors with their music.)
[05:16] <Ng> Jemt: you can do "dhclient eth0" or similar
[05:16] <selinium> intero, Do you know if there is a way of editting the Live DIsc to auto boot in persistance modE?
[05:16] <Ng> CarinArr: do it! :)
[05:16] <CarinArr> ng, just the idea of being completely helpless and getting irate over simple things like swapping windows again, doesn't appeal to me;)
[05:17] <Jemt> Ng: Thanks alot :)
[05:17] <brenner> Toba|BSD: the people in #xchat are great: ctrl+pgup/pgdn
[05:17] <_martin_v_> I have ubuntu Hoary 5.04 installed - how do I upgrade to the newest version?
[05:17] <Ng> !upgrade
[05:17] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[05:17] <Jemt> Ng: Will it also resolve nameservers and gateway ?
[05:17] <Ng> _martin_v_: ^^
[05:17] <_martin_v_> thanx
[05:17] <Ng> Jemt: if they are provided by the dhcp server, it should do, yes
[05:17] <Jemt> Ng: Great - thanks again :)
[05:18] <Ng> CarinArr: hehe
[05:19] <gnudreamer> Does totem have any eq availaibe
[05:19] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:19] <StM> debug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[05:19] <wermut> How can I disable that network interfaces are activated at bootup?
[05:19] <axisys_> hi all
[05:19] <Ng> wermut: the network config lets you select whether an interface is enabled on boot
[05:19] <etxe> algun espaol?
[05:19] <intero> selinium: i guess you have to write 'persistent' each time you boot. maybe it will be changed in the final release. you can file a wishlist bug if you want the feature though
[05:20] <axisys_> anyone know of a good irc or web source to freshen up my linux administration skills
[05:20] <tristan> back
[05:20] <wermut> Ng: Which file do I have to edit?
[05:20] <etxe> e
[05:20] <Ng> wermut: I meant the network config program, but you can remove the "auto" lines from /etc/network/interfaces if you want to do it by hand
[05:20] <axisys_> more of a "Sr. linux Admin" skills
[05:20] <tristan> I'd like to know how can I completely remove gnome : I mean : dependencies not used by kde, configuration files....
[05:21] <gnudreamer> So Totem point to this irc channel for knowledge on it, anyone have any idea if totem has any equlization capabilities?
[05:21] <selinium> intero, Cheers :)
[05:21] <Ng> gnudreamer: afaik, it doesn't
[05:22] <Alex_BO> HELLO!I need libdvdcss, but i can't find the package.this is the first time that i can't find a package.can anybody help me'
[05:22] <Alex_BO> ?
[05:22] <soundray> Ng, and the same thing ("auto" removal) can be done through network-conf?
[05:22] <Ng> tristan: try and find some low-level packages it all depends on, like libglib or libgtk2
[05:22] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:22] <StM> debug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[05:22] <Ng> soundray: well ish, you can disable a connection, which should do the same thing I think
[05:22] <gnudreamer> Lame
[05:22] <tristan> If I do sudo apt-get remove gnome, will it erase all my gnom settings and uninstall gnome?
[05:23] <soundray> Ng, I may be wrong, but in my experience, it gets re-enabled after reboot.
[05:23] <wermut> Ng: There is only a line saying "auto lo" (I use kubuntu by the way). The thing that bothers me is that ubuntu tries to "configure the network interfaces" at bootop and the dhclient continually attempts to connect. I want to do that only manually.
[05:23] <gnudreamer> wishes mplayer weren't so buggy, and xmms played nicely with all formats
[05:23] <Ng> soundray: hmm, that sounds like a bug then
[05:23] <captainredbeard> how do I check a hard drive for errors?
[05:23] <Ng> wermut: do not disable lo
[05:23] <Ng> wermut: lo should be configured statically anyway. look for another interface that is configured with dhcp
[05:23] <deefzi> what terminal fonts do you prefer? (fixed width of course)
[05:24] <captainredbeard> how do I check a hard drive for errors?
[05:24] <gnudreamer> Well does ALSA offer eq ability?
[05:24] <soundray> Ng, oops, sorry, you were right. It does remove auto. I must have not closed it with okay previously.
[05:25] <seishi> i want change the /home to other partition,  if i mount /dev/hda2 on /home, then copy the user directories to the 'new' /home, it works?
[05:25] <wermut> Ng: There are lines saying "iface ethx inet dhcp". Should I change them?
[05:26] <soundray> deefzi, my favorite is Lucida Typewriter, closely followed by Bitstream Vera Sans Mono.
[05:26] <Ng> wermut: there should be corresponding "auto ethx" lines, comment them out and it'll stop trying to raise the interface on boot
[05:27] <soundray> captainredbeard, there is a program badblocks. It is optionally executed when you format a partition (-c option)
[05:27] <soundray> too late.
[05:27] <wermut> Ng: There are no "auto ethx" lines.
[05:27] <Ng> wermut: hmm, can you paste the contents to a pastebin please?
[05:27] <soundray> What's the point asking a question when you can't wait 64 seconds for an answer. Ts.
[05:28] <jrattner> Anyone ever set up AWSTATS from the repos before?
[05:29] <CarinArr> awstats?
[05:29] <CarinArr> oh yes..
[05:29] <soundray> jrattner, what's the problem?
[05:29] <KenThede> where do i go to get ubuntu sorce code
[05:29] <CarinArr> i mean no, haven't done it.. just couldn't remember what awstats was until it clicked
[05:29] <jrattner> CarinArr, was there anything special you had to do to configure it for a one website setup? or soundray ?
[05:29] <Ng> KenThede: "apt-get source packagename" if you just want the one, or the ftp server if you want everything
[05:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell seishi about partitionhome
[05:30] <soundray> jrattner, I've only got generic advice for you. Look in /usr/share/doc/awstats for README files, if you haven't already. This type of initial setup question is usually answered there.
[05:30] <seishi> _jason,  the ubuntu system is installed on /dev/hda1, reiserfs
[05:31] <jrattner> soundray, I did look there, and there is a debian Readme, I was sure if that applied to the situation
[05:31] <seishi> _jason, the /dev/hda2 is reiserfs too
[05:31] <_jason> seishi: it should work, I haven't tried it with your particular setup but I followed that guide that ubotu gave you and it wored perfectly
[05:31] <soundray> jrattner, it is very likely that it does apply.
[05:32] <axisys_> looking for a simple explanation with examples on ipc/ipcs
[05:32] <_martin_v_> !!! MPHII
[05:32] <ubotu> _martin_v_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:32] <jrattner> soundray, ok sounds good
[05:32] <_martin_v_> MPHIII!?
[05:32] <seishi> _jason, ops, thanks
[05:32] <wermut_> Ng: Pasted it here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7328 (was disconnect for a minute, sorry).
[05:32] <thgjerde> i am trying to upload a lot of files to a samba server, but for some reason the hard drives goes bananas with reads and writes. the upload speed is 3.5 MB/s, i would expect at least 30 MB/s
[05:33] <trappist> thgjerde: sounds like the upload is bottlenecking at disk i/o
[05:33] <seishi> _jason, sorry, i don't  know english =p
[05:34] <thgjerde> trappist, any sugestions how to fix it?
[05:34] <soundray> thgjerde, do you get 30 MB/s locally?
[05:34] <thgjerde> soundray, yes
[05:34] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:34] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:34] <StM> debug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[05:34] <Ng> wermut_: ah, I think you want to comment out lines 12, 13 and 14, but I'm not 100% sure about that
[05:35] <trappist> thgjerde: you might consider upgrading samba or replacing the filesystem with something faster - also make sure dma is enabled on the hard drive
[05:35] <soundray> thgjerde, have you checked network throughput with something else, say ftp or scp?
[05:36] <trappist> yet more evidence that soundray is a thinker
[05:36] <aeroraver> hello can someone help me mounting a fat32 hd
[05:36] <thgjerde> soundray, i can download at 30 MB/s
[05:36] <pollomix> como hago para escucjar musica en mp3
[05:36] <soundray> trappist, sorry, did I say something stupid?
[05:36] <trappist> pollomix: #ubuntu-es
[05:36] <wermut_> Ng: I will try to do so, thank you very much for your help.
[05:36] <trappist> soundray: on the contrary
[05:36] <axisys_> still looking for a simple explanation with examples on ipc/ipcs
[05:36] <thgjerde> trappist, samba is version 3.0.21a
[05:37] <trappist> thgjerde: 3.x should be just fine there
[05:37] <trappist> thgjerde: what filesystem is on the disk?
[05:37] <soundray> thgjerde, is it two Linux machines, or is there Windows on one side?
[05:37] <pollomix> en donde lo escribo
[05:37] <trappist> thgjerde: also, are you uploading zillions of small files, or a few large ones?
[05:37] <thgjerde> trappist, and there is at lest udma/100 on all disks , fs is xfs
[05:37] <pollomix> es la primera vez que utilizo linux
[05:38] <trappist> pollomix: /join #ubuntu-es
[05:38] <seashell11> !spanish
[05:38] <ubotu> I guess spanish is Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda
[05:38] <Myconid3> can Ubuntu load my windows TTF fonts?
[05:38] <thgjerde> trappist, some hunderd of files at 700MB each
[05:38] <thgjerde> soundray, one linux and one xp
[05:38] <soundray> ahh, sorry thgjerde, I'll leave you in the capable hands of trappist.
[05:38] <tristan> HOw can I completly reinstall gnome with all the library and default settings?
[05:38] <thgjerde> soundray, thanks for the help :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> the reinstall command?
[05:39] <trappist> thgjerde: I'm stumped.  I've seen it happen with lots of very small files, where the full potential of the pipe has to be figured out all over again with each file, but each part of your system looks pretty good
[05:39] <tombs> hi all
[05:40] <tristan> gnomefreak : are you talking to me?
[05:40] <trappist> tristan: you probably don't need to reinstall the libs unless you've REALLY been screwing around, but if you get rid of your ~/.gnome* directories you should get your default settings back
[05:40] <gnomefreak> i just cant remember if its install --reinstall or remove --reinstall
[05:40] <evangelos> hi can i talk to someone ??
[05:40] <Yokalosh> call me an idiot but how do you upgrade from cd?
[05:40] <trappist> Myconid3: yes
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> evangelos,  you allready are. :P
[05:40] <evangelos> dr willis
[05:40] <evangelos> listen
[05:40] <tristan> trappist : I really screwed it out
[05:40] <quad_> how is it that I make my user a member of the root-group?
[05:41] <deefzi> has someone replaced ESD with ALSA?
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Yokalosh: you dont need the cd to upgrade to the latest releas
[05:41] <deefzi> i tried, but i can't get it working :-(
[05:41] <Yokalosh> gnomefreak: what do i need to do then?
[05:41] <evangelos> i have an xga monitor and when i am running obuntu live cd it loads everything but i cant see anything...
[05:41] <Rawplayer> RE
[05:41] <gnomefreak> Yokalosh: what version to what version?
[05:41] <tristan> I cannot launch gnome session. I can choose it but after it doesn't launch. It might be because of nautilus
[05:42] <Yokalosh> 5.04 - 5.10
[05:42] <chalcedony> good morning :)
[05:42] <tristan> So now, I installed KDE and want to make a new fresh install of gnome
[05:42] <seashell11> gnomefreak: its apt-get --reinstall
[05:42] <quad_> how is it that I make my user a member of the root-group?
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Yokalosh about upgrade
[05:42] <gnomefreak> ty seashell11
[05:42] <thgjerde> trappist, i dont know if it matthers that the disks are set up in raid-5
[05:42] <Dr_Willis> evangelos,  you are refering to a  fairly normal computer crt monitor? or a LCD one?
[05:42] <Yokalosh> aaah  cheers dude
[05:42] <evangelos> lcd one
[05:42] <TonInter> Hello all.
[05:42] <gnomefreak> Yokalosh: read that its get instructions
[05:43] <tristan> but apt-get --reinstall does'nt reinstall library and so on
[05:43] <quad_> nm, found it...
[05:43] <trappist> thgjerde: that may very well matter.  software raid or hardware raid?
[05:43] <Yokalosh> :) will do
[05:43] <chalcedony> ((( TonInter )))
[05:43] <TonInter> :)
[05:43] <alainlucas> how to get the date in the format YYMMDD with a command line ?
[05:43] <thgjerde> trappist, software
[05:43] <Dr_Willis> evangelos,  may want to try a different live cd - the Ubuntu one - is not as up to date as say Knoppix.
[05:43] <TonInter> Can anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for Ubuntu ?
[05:43] <Ng> alainlucas: there's a command "date"
[05:43] <trappist> thgjerde: that could be your bottleneck, but of course it shouldn't be.  especially with xfs.
[05:43] <tristan> alainlucas : date
[05:43] <Ng> alainlucas: you can specify your own format
[05:44] <Ken> hello
[05:44] <chalcedony> hi Ken :)
[05:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alainlucas: date --iso-8601 does approximately that
[05:44] <evangelos> can u suggest anything that can run with my obuntu live cd? where i can find knoppix?
[05:44] <Ken> I wanted t o know where to get the ubuntu source code
[05:45] <TonInter> chalcedony, can you tell me wheer ?
[05:45] <TonInter> where*
[05:45] <gnomefreak> how do you restart gnome-panel?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> evangelos,  the live cd's have dozens of boot time options - check the ubuntu wiki/forums for details.. same with Knoppix - they use about the same options. Google for knoppix
[05:45] <chalcedony> it seems like there are a lot of questions ... and not a lot of people giving answers
[05:46] <evangelos> how do i find wiki/forums?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> chalcedony: thats not new
[05:46] <Ken> hello!!!!!!!! I want to knowe where to go to get the ubuntu source code
[05:46] <chalcedony> gnomefreak: probably :)
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> evangelos,  googling for 'ubuntu wiki' :P or read the topic. it has the url.
[05:46] <Myconid3> Ken: its on the website
[05:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> evangelos: www.ubuntuforums.org
[05:46] <chalcedony> :)
[05:46] <aeroraver> hello, can someone tell me to get full acces to a mounted vfat hd?
[05:46] <TonInter> Myconid3, do you have any idea where can I find bootable floppy disks for Ubuntu ?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> chalcedony: you have what over 600 people in here hard to keep track of them all :)
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[05:47] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aeroraver about fat
[05:47] <trappist> alainlucas: date +%y%m%d
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> check that URL ubotu gave aeroraver .
[05:47] <TonInter> !fat32
[05:47] <ubotu> Download and run http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter to make your windows or mac partitions mount automatically.  If you wish to set it up yourself by hand, read: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions
[05:47] <chalcedony> gnomefreak: TonInter> Can anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for Ubuntu ?
[05:47] <Hentai^XP> get rid of the fat!
[05:47] <Hentai^XP> use ext3fs
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> chalcedony,  you mean bootable to do what? Install?
[05:47] <gnomefreak> chalcedony: i have never seen one
[05:47] <TonInter> Dr_Willis, tes
[05:47] <TonInter> yes****
[05:48] <Hentai^XP> chalcedony there is none
[05:48] <Ken> msg/ kill
[05:48] <Bain> What program do I have to use to change balance on my sound devices?  I can't seem to do it on any settings or program I have on my menus
[05:48] <chalcedony> ok TonInter i think that answers that question.. perhaps get a cd for another distro or get a friend to dl it.
[05:49] <Ng> Bain: right click on the volume applet on the panel and you can bring up a full volume mixer
[05:49] <iantec> how do we download those automount ?
[05:49] <TonInter> chalcedony, I got two CD`s from Slackware
[05:49] <Bain> Ng: I did that, it brings up only a mic/speaker volume with no balance options
[05:50] <Ng> Bain: there should be two sliders for stereo items, click on the little chain link beneath and you can adjust the volumes independently - ie adjust the balance
[05:50] <guapoo> alguien habla espaol
[05:50] <Bain> oh, duh
[05:50] <Nivko[-Away-] > Hi
[05:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !es
[05:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:50] <alainlucas> how to gedit a file which name should be myfile-'date --iso-8601' ?
[05:50] <Bain> sorry...i'm not used to that ;)
[05:50] <chalcedony> ty very much gnomefreak, Dr_Willis :)
[05:50] <StM> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7326 Know somebody why my wireless network not works with wpa?
[05:50] <StM> debug info: Could not configure driver to use managed mode
[05:50] <gnomefreak> iantec: downloading should just be that it should be fairly straight foward but ive never been to that site myself
[05:50] <gnomefreak> !es
[05:50] <Bain> windows has me programmed to look for a sideways slider
[05:51] <Nivko> if i do: sudo chgrp www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp        i dont got rights on the subdirs how i can get rights on the subdirs too?
[05:51] <Ng> Bain: np :)
[05:51] <Bain> Ng:thanks
[05:51] <tarvid> could use some advice on handlilng gcc version conflict in dapper
[05:51] <gnomefreak> tarvid: what conflict?
[05:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alainlucas: gedit myfile-`date --iso-8601` might do it
[05:51] <Nivko> if i do: sudo chgrp www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp        i dont got rights on the subdirs how i can get rights on the subdirs too?
[05:52] <obontu> hey, i heard there's a way to close frozen apps by pressing 3 keys together, like alt+ctrl+del in windows, it's supposed to change the cursor into a skull and bones or something and then you click on a task and kill it, anyone has a clue?
[05:52] <Ng> Nivko: chgrp -R and chmod -R
[05:52] <Ng> Nivko: that does it recursively
[05:52] <Nivko> ok
[05:52] <alainlucas> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks
[05:52] <tarvid> gcc-4.0-base is 4.0.2-7ubuntu1
[05:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alainlucas: Let me know if it actually works :D
[05:52] <trappist> obontu: in kde it's ctrl-alt-esc, but you can always run xkill from the command line
[05:52] <PuMpErNiCkLe> alainlucas: (It should, I've just never done it)
[05:52] <iantec> sorry but how do i use that because all my media files are in my windows partitions in my first hd
[05:52] <Nivko> sudo chgrp -R www-data /opt/lampp; sudo chmod -R g+w /opt/lampp; ls -ld /opt/lampp
[05:52] <Nivko> ?
[05:52] <tarvid> gcc-4.0 is 4.0.1-4ubuntu9
[05:52] <obontu> what about gnome?
[05:52] <Nivko> ye
[05:52] <Nivko> thnx
[05:52] <gnomefreak> iantec: read the part of the file that says instructions
[05:52] <obontu> not such option in the gui?
[05:53] <Ng> Nivko: yes
[05:53] <Nivko> thnx
[05:54] <tarvid> gnomefreak, if I could back out gcc-4.0-base, i might be able to install gcc-4.0
[05:55] <obontu> anyway to kill a task in gnome? (not using the command line)
[05:55] <Nivko> Ng:
[05:55] <tarvid> is this time for --force-overwrite?
[05:56] <Nivko> I'm configuring PHP.ini and what is the path of sendmail?
[05:56] <Ng> obontu: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor you can kill things with that
[05:56] <Ng> Nivko: /usr/sbin/sendmail
[05:56] <Ng> Nivko: you can find the paths of things with "which sendmail"
[05:56] <Nivko> ok
[06:00] <Ng> tarvid: your gcc-4.0-base is newer than the one in breezy, that's really quite bizarre - did you install it from elsewhere?
[06:00] <iantec> gnomefreak how do i save it....?
[06:01] <tarvid> this is dapper and I don't know where in the several hundred updates that version got installed
[06:01] <Ng> tarvid: oh
[06:01] <Ng> meh ;)
[06:01] <Av> hallo?
[06:02] <tarvid> it is not the one currently available and if i apt-get remove too much stuff gets removed
[06:02] <TonInter> Can anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for installation on VMware for Ubuntu ?
[06:02] <et0> Does anyone know a good program to read CDimages like .img files ?
[06:02] <tarvid> gcc-4.0-base appears to contain only /usr/share/doc files
[06:02] <tarvid> et0, dd
[06:02] <et0> its just called dd ?
[06:03] <prem> hi all,
[06:03] <MrPockets> is there a way to send files over a network in Ubuntu?
[06:03] <Ng> et0: do you mean you want to access a cd image file? or create one?
[06:03] <prem> just did a chroot as said in the ubuntu wiki .. getting an error "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file"
[06:03] <et0> Ng, to access one...something like deamon tools for windows
[06:04] <tarvid> et0, dd if=/dev/hdc of=filename.iso
[06:04] <iantec> how do i save this to the harddrive? http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[06:04] <tarvid> MrPockets, scp, ftp
[06:04] <Ng> et0: if it's just a regular iso you can do something like "sudo mount -o loop /path/to/image.iso /mnt/image" (you'll need to create the /mnt/image directory first)
[06:04] <Ng> tarvid: he's trying to mount an image, not create one
[06:05] <et0> ahh, cool, thanks :)
[06:05] <tarvid> Ng, he said read
[06:05] <ubuntu> hi
[06:06] <Ng> tarvid: read can mean many things ;)
[06:06] <et0> tarvid, perhaps said wrong..ment use it like an dvd image or something like that
[06:06] <ubuntu> i no speak english
[06:06] <gnomefreak> ubuntu: what do you speak?
[06:06] <ubuntu> espanish
[06:06] <gnomefreak> !es
[06:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:07] <ubuntu> ok. thankyou
[06:08] <arele> hi
[06:08] <tarvid> et0, the question is what do you have and what exactly do you want to do with it
[06:09] <et0> tarvid, serveral CD images, .img files, that I'd like to access..movies, dvd images and such
[06:09] <et0> mostly movies
[06:09] <ktogias> Hi, does anybody know where emblems and notes associated to a file are kept by nautilus? I would like to be able to transfer a file with it's nautilus notes and emblems to another machine using a floppy disk/usb removable storage/network share....
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hmm
[06:10] <TonInter> Can anyone tell me where can I get bootable floppy disk for installation on VMware for Ubuntu ? ? :)
[06:11] <iantec> got it thanks.... sorry for the noob questions:)
[06:11] <gnomefreak> TonInter: i dont think you can you can try to make one tho if your so inclined
[06:12] <glacious> Dapper is supposed to be released in April, correct?  (the non-beta)
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: yup
[06:12] <glacious> is it easy to upgrade from 5.x to 6.x when it comes out?
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: Yeah... apt-get dist-upgrade is the command.
[06:12] <TonInter> gnomefreak, how ? :)
[06:12] <glacious> i'm running dapper on my desktop because 5.x doesn't support my SATA @ install, i like it so much i want a stable version on my laptop, so i figured i can do 5.x, and upgrade to 6.x
[06:12] <gnomefreak> TonInter: if i knew i would tell you :(
[06:13] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: wow, excellent.  then 'bam', it's all 6.x when it comes out.  even the kernel?  or do you manually recompile that?
[06:13] <iantec> when i use the auto mounter can i rename the partitions ? instead of being hda1 hda2 and etc? will it cause any problems?
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: Nope, that'll take care of everything.
[06:13] <glacious> PuMpErNiCkLe: wow, thats amazing.
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> glacious: Gotta love apt. :)
[06:13] <thgjerde> TonInter, cant you use a bootable cd?
[06:14] <TonInter> Yeah, I can.
[06:14] <TonInter> But I don`t have one.
[06:14] <mirkash> ive installed ubuntu on P1 166mhz with VX pro motherboard but i cant configure mouse which is serial
[06:16] <gnomefreak> all the rooms stopped :(
[06:16] <trappist> yeah, so did the channels
[06:16] <glacious> how well do games run in Ubuntu as compared to XP?  things like HL2 etc...
[06:16] <ortner> How do i check what processes are running on my system?
[06:17] <TonInter> ps
[06:17] <trappist> glacious: depends on the game.  I understand hl2 runs very decently in cedega.
[06:17] <glacious> ortner: ps aux
[06:17] <gnomefreak> ps aux
[06:17] <TonInter> ortner: ps, i think
[06:17] <Ng> ortner: Applications->System Tools->System Monitor can show you a full list, or ps as others are suggesting :)
[06:17] <gnomefreak> lmao
[06:17] <TonInter> :()
[06:17] <TonInter> :)*
[06:17] <Myconid3> whats t he default root password?
[06:17] <gnomefreak> theres 4 ways pick you own method
[06:17] <glacious> damn, this channel is mad helpful =)
[06:17] <Ng> Myconid3: there isn't one, it's disabled by default
[06:17] <Ng> !root
[06:17] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[06:17] <redguy> !tell Myconid3 about root
[06:17] <trappist> Myconid3: disabled
[06:17] <redguy> !tell Myconid3 about sudo
[06:17] <Myconid3> gotchya.
[06:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> whoa
[06:18] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Myconid3 got bot-flooded O_o
[06:18] <Myconid3> I know what sudo is :~)
[06:18] <redguy> :-)
[06:20] <gnomefreak> Myconid3: if you didnt before you do now lol
[06:20] <Myconid3> :)
[06:21] <Troglodyt> is there a linux program that will open MS publisher .pub files?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> o?
[06:22] <glacious> does Cedega put on a large overhead?
[06:22] <gnomefreak> OOo?
[06:22] <Troglodyt> neg. won't do them
[06:22] <axisys_> how to i print list of all installed pkgs?
[06:22] <Ng> axisys_: dpkg -l
[06:22] <Ng> Troglodyt: not afaik
[06:22] <axisys_> Ng: cool thnx
[06:23] <axisys_> Ng: whats the `ii' or `rc' stands for
[06:23] <gnomefreak> only one issue with that command you cant scroll the whole list :(
[06:24] <tRSS> how can I edit my fstab so that everytime I login, it automatically mounts a windows share from the network?
[06:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gnomefreak: you could pipe it to 'less'
[06:24] <Ng> axisys_: if you do "dpkg -l | more" the first few lines explain what each of the columns means
[06:24] <Ng> axisys_: (the lines starting Desired, Status and Err)
[06:25] <noddaba> Is there a way to attach "meta data" to a file, similar to the EXIF stuff on images?  I thought of ACL, but it looks like that's just to add additional permissions... ?
[06:25] <trappist> noddaba: depends on the file
[06:25] <axisys_> Ng: that is what I did.. but not explaining in the header
[06:26] <noddaba> trappist, a tarball to be specific.  i thought there were some utilities out there that could do that.  can't remember if I read it in linux journal or linux mag.
[06:26] <Ng> axisys_: ii means the Desired status is "Install" (ie something has told apt to install the package) and the actual Status is Installed because the package is installed
[06:26] <trappist> noddaba: dunno if gnu tar supports that or not
[06:26] <Ng> axisys_: rc means Desired=Remove Status=Config-files (ie it has been removed, but some config files have yet to be purged)
[06:27] <gogogog54> hello
[06:28] <gogogog54> i need a package for routing and manipulating audio from/to multiple
[06:28] <gogogog54> input/output sources
[06:28] <axisys_> Ng: now i follow .. thnx
[06:28] <Myconid3> um
[06:28] <Myconid3> gogogog54: whats hard about that?
[06:29] <gogogog54> nothing
[06:29] <gogogog54> thought you might be able to save me some time
[06:29] <jariep1_> can somebody help me out with XAMPP?
[06:30] <Myconid3> cant you just use cat and tee?
[06:30] <jariep1_> how do you remove the password in XAMPP?
[06:31] <jariep1_> DR_Willis, XAMPP LAMPP is a Apache/MySQL PHP installation package
[06:31] <Myconid3> oh jesus
[06:32] <Blippe> no!
[06:32] <Myconid3> What the hell is LAMPP
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> :)
[06:32] <Myconid3> Why isnt it LAMX?
[06:32] <onekill> hello everyone
[06:32] <UTD|Hawk> Linux Apache Mysql PHP P..mhhh
[06:32] <Myconid3> or.. LAMP*
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> perl :P
[06:32] <UTD|Hawk> yes
[06:33] <Ng> jariep1_: ubuntu provides separate apache/mysql/php packages, if you're having problems with xampp I suggest contacting them ;)
[06:33] <onekill> anyone know how to fix the mouse jumping around when using a KVM?
[06:33] <jrattner> If you have a DMZ enabler and pointing to host, can you view that host from within the network?
[06:33] <RobNyc> http://julien.danjou.info/article-apt-build.html
[06:33] <aglet> I'm trying to get msttcorefonts installed on Breezy; I've uncommented everything in /etc/apt/sources.list but I still don't see the package... where can I find it?
[06:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell aglet about fonts
[06:33] <Ng> aglet: you probably need to add multiverse in
[06:34] <TobiX> Hi
[06:34] <jariep1_> Ng, ok, was just wondering because kkathman recommended XAMPP, thought he could help
[06:34] <thgjerde> onekill, dont use the auto detect mouse protocol
[06:34] <aglet> Ng: done that; gnomefreak: ta
[06:34] <onekill> can you explain?
[06:35] <aglet> gnomefreak, I've enabled the multiverse & universe repos, as I said in my question, & I still don't see the package
[06:35] <thgjerde> onekill, somewhere in your xorg.conf there is a mouse section, you want to change the driver from auto to something like PS/2
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> !fonts
[06:35] <ubotu> somebody said fonts was https://wiki.ubuntu.com//FontInstallHowto
[06:36] <soundray> thgjerde, were you able to trace your throughput problem?
[06:36] <thgjerde> soundray, i came to the conclution that raid was the most likley preblem, but no fix :(
[06:38] <aglet> Dr_Willis, thanks, I've had a look at that page, have followed the instructions, and I still can't see the msttcorefonts package
[06:39] <TobiX> Does the NetworkManager in Breezy work? Does it interfere with the Ubuntu network configuration tool?
[06:39] <Dr_Willis> aglet,  may need to restart X or the font server.. Ive got them all installed - but i dont recall any problems.
[06:40] <jrattner> TobiX, no its great I use it I love it :0
[06:40] <Dr_Willis> aglet,  how are you trying to 'see' the mstcorefonts?
[06:40] <soundray> thgjerde, if you had full throughput locally and no network bottleneck, this sounds like something that samba developers should know about.
[06:40] <aglet> Dr_Willis, apt-cache search msttcorefonts
[06:40] <soundray> thgjerde, at least I would consider it worth looking on some samba forum or maillist.
[06:40] <Ng> aglet: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list into a pastebin
[06:40] <TobiX> jrattner: That sounds as if I could make my sister happy with it :)
[06:40] <aglet> Ng, pastebin..?
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> aglet,  so they Seem to install? or are you saying you cant even find the package TO install?
[06:41] <thgjerde> soundray, ok, ill look again
[06:41] <Ng> !pastebin
[06:41] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:41] <aglet> Dr_Willis, can't find the package at all
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> !Info msttcorefonts
[06:41] <ubotu> msttcorefonts: has nothing about Info
[06:41] <soundray> thgjerde, just my 2c -- sorry no better advice. I can imagine it's a pain if you have to transfer that amount of data.
[06:42] <aglet> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7330
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> aglet,  it may be that name is wrong.
[06:42] <Dr_Willis> or been changed.
[06:42] <soundray> Dr_Willis, no, msttcorefonts is correct.
[06:42] <thgjerde> soundray, thank you for trying to help :)
[06:43] <Blippe> why apt-build instead of apt-get? minimal performance-boost?
[06:43] <Ng> aglet: as I said, you need to enable more multiverse stuff - you only have it on the breezy-backports lines at the moment
[06:43] <Dr_Willis> msttcorefonts - Installer for Microsoft TrueType core fonts
[06:43] <aglet> uhuh, so what's the deb line for the remainder of the multiverse?
[06:43] <Ng> !easysource
[06:43] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:43] <Ng> aglet: ^^ that will help you build a useful sources.list
[06:43] <aglet> ooh, nice
[06:44] <Ng> imho the default one is bobbins and should be made *far* clearer :/
[06:44] <novaa> hi all .. couldt find anything related on the net: after booting and loging into breezy (gnome, X86) there was an error: icon could not be found ... the situation now is, that there is no icon for "trash", "show desktop", folders files and in "places". any idea how to fix this ?
[06:44] <gnomefreak> novaa: dapper?
[06:44] <novaa> gnomefreak: nope, breezy
[06:45] <gnomefreak> hmmmmmm i only had that issue on dapper :(
[06:45] <Dr_Willis> heh - trying to test out Dapper here..  but for some odd reason GRUB isent working right. :( Off to the Forums with me!
[06:46] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: dual booting off same hd?
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  nope.
[06:46] <christian_> hey !
[06:46] <gnomefreak> why is it i only have these problems :(
[06:46] <gnomefreak> dont answer that
[06:46] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  just dapper install to a new 300gb hd. Grubs hanging at the 'stage 1.5' thing.
[06:46] <christian_> how can i see the list of packages on APT-GET ??
[06:47] <Ng> christian_: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:47] <aglet> Ng: thanks, got em from http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse
[06:47] <Ng> :)
[06:47] <soundray> christian_, with synaptic
[06:47] <aglet> you're right about the default sources.list being bobbins
[06:48] <gnomefreak> not real sure Dr_Willis  i got an error 18 i think it was when i used dapper to resize hd
[06:48] <aglet> first hour or 2 on ubuntu is quite pleasing, well done any developers lurking about
[06:48] <christian_> ok let me try
[06:48] <ph8> hey guys, i'm trying to get bluetooth working on my build using wiki/BluetoothSetup
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  :P not my issue.. googling for it now. lol
[06:48] <novaa> i looked up the directory where gnome was looking for the icons and copied it from /usr/share/icons/default/$cant_remember to where the error messsage told me it was looking for (extra 4 mb, who cares): but the problem persists
[06:48] <gnomefreak> Dr_Willis: did you check malone?
[06:48] <ph8> when i set my device to discoverable and hidd --search it says 'Searching..' then goes back to prompt, as oppose to 'Searching..' followed by 'No devices found' - any ideas what's going wrong?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  heres an interesting poste. :P about how it may be checking the floppy drive which is set to boot..
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  lets try disabling the floppy - lol.
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> gnomefreak,  bbl
[06:49] <christian_> hum!
[06:50] <christian_> cool! i thought that synaptic show only the instaled packages
[06:50] <christian_> thanks!
[06:50] <novaa> i would love to fix this icon issue
[06:51] <soundray> novaa, is this a fresh install?
[06:51] <novaa> soundray: nearly, some weeks old
[06:51] <soundray> novaa, did you have the problem from the beginning?
[06:52] <novaa> soundray: nope, didnt do anything to themes or icons, all i remember is a kernel image update this morning
[06:53] <raysiel_> ciao
[06:53] <novaa> is there a way to replace a gnome-package to get rid of this "missing icon problem" ?
[06:53] <soundray> novaa, this is a shot in the dark, but try to reinstall gnome-themes.
[06:54] <ph8> hey guys, i'm trying to get bluetooth working on my build using wiki/BluetoothSetup
[06:54] <ph8> when i set my device to discoverable and hidd --search it says 'Searching..' then goes back to prompt, as oppose to 'Searching..' followed by 'No devices found' - any ideas what's going wrong?
[06:54] <novaa> soundray: any options i have to add for apt-get ? it says gnome-themes is already the newest
[06:54] <soundray> novaa, --reinstall
[06:55] <simak> How to I tar a dir into a .zip for windows?
[06:55] <novaa> soundray: thx, brb
[06:57] <Kevin> hello
[06:57] <simak> Kevin, hello
[06:58] <Kevin> how are you?
[06:58] <soundray> simak, I don't think you can use zip in a pipe, so you have to untar the file and zip it afterwards. Most archivers for Windows, e.g. WinZip, can handle tar files, though.
[06:58] <novaaa> hm, still same problem
[06:58] <Kevin> so everybody uses ubuntu linux in here?
[06:58] <DaSkreech> I'm having a problem with java in Frefox
[06:58] <soundray> novaaa, okay, I'll look around for another package that may be worth reinstalling.
[06:58] <simak> soundray, I have to send this zip into a bot on a server ... you think the zip decoder can handle tars?  I'll have to try
[06:59] <simak> Kevin, this is the support channel.
[06:59] <Kevin> daskreech, what version of firefox?
[06:59] <DaSkreech> on one site it crashes the browser
[06:59] <simak> Kevin, you should be on #ubuntu-offtopic for chit chat.
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Kevin: Goodl old 1.0.7
[06:59] <soundray> simak, well, in that case it's rather unlikely.
[06:59] <Kevin> odd
[06:59] <novaaa> soundray: may i try copying /usr/share/icons from another breezy machine ?
[06:59] <Kevin> i use 1.5
[06:59] <Kevin> and java doesnt work
[06:59] <DaSkreech> Right :-)
[06:59] <simak> soundray, I'll try and let you know.  It's just a dumb bot.
[06:59] <Kevin> but in 1.0.7 it did
[07:00] <Kevin> i just use opera when i want java and it works well
[07:00] <xored> where do i get thunderbird from the sources ?
[07:00] <moodog> Evening all.
[07:00] <soundray> novaaa, sure, it probably won't break anything if you're careful with permissions.
[07:00] <DaSkreech> Yeah but I'd like to find out if there is an issue with Blackdwon
[07:01] <DaSkreech> Down even
[07:01] <soundray> novaaa, have you played with the themes setting to try and fix the problem?
[07:02] <novaaa> soundray: yes ... but it does not change the icon set nor restores the standard icons
[07:03] <novaaa> soundray: interesting thing is, that the preview icon for the userdefined theme in the theme properties window gives a correct preview
[07:03] <soundray> novaaa, gnome-icon-theme could be another guilty package.
[07:03] <thefamousnomo> hello people!
[07:03] <thefamousnomo> trying to troubleshoot a few issues here...
[07:04] <soundray> novaaa, not sure how this is implemented, though. It could be just a bitmap...
[07:04] <thefamousnomo> is anyone having difficulty accessing www.ubuntuforums.org?
[07:04] <d5dq> is this channel to ask help questions?
[07:04] <soundray> novaaa, is the problem the same if you log in with another username?
[07:05] <soundray> d5dq, yes, if they are related to Ubuntu.
[07:05] <d5dq> is this channel for asking help questions about ubuntu?
[07:05] <seroxat> I just installed ubuntu and i cant get into X, it says "Monitor not detected"
[07:05] <thefamousnomo> d5dq: i believe so man!
[07:05] <seroxat> :(
[07:05] <thefamousnomo> can anyone confirm the forums are down?
[07:05] <simak> can I make a zip with tar?
[07:06] <d5dq> i can't access the ubuntu forums
[07:06] <Myconid3> simak: no
[07:06] <Myconid3> simak: use zip
[07:06] <glacious> do wireless ad-hoc networks forward packets to eachother?  like if a node in the middle could see the ones on either side, it'd forward packets between them so they can communicate?
[07:06] <simak> Myconid3, how about gzip?
[07:06] <seroxat> Anyone here uses an LCD monitor with ubuntu?
[07:06] <ccooke> simak: no, thay are different programs.
[07:06] <Myconid3> simak: NO. use zip.
[07:06] <glacious> or do all nodes in ad-hoc wireless need to see eachother directly to communicate?
[07:06] <soundray> thefamousnomo, not responding here, either.
[07:06] <Myconid3> glacious: I believe it is direct
[07:06] <novaaa> soundray: ill try
[07:06] <seroxat> -.-
[07:06] <d5dq> how would i get ubuntu to execute "/home/admin/ventrilo/ventrilo_srv -d
[07:06] <d5dq> " each time the system is booted?
[07:06] <Myconid3> glacious: ad-hoc does not do meshing
[07:07] <thefamousnomo> cheers guys, last two days after 4pm...
[07:07] <seroxat> .
[07:07] <glacious> Myconid3: so all nodes need to see eachother, theres no forwarding/routing through other wireless nodes.
[07:07] <thefamousnomo> thanx again!
[07:07] <glacious> Myconid3: thank you.
[07:07] <seroxat> I just installed ubuntu and i cant get into X, it says "Monitor not detected" :/
[07:07] <DaSkreech> Does anyone use 1.0.7 and the java provided in Breezy instaled?
[07:07] <soundray> seroxat, hold on...
[07:08] <DaSkreech> installed
[07:08] <seroxat> im using a lcd monitor via DVI if that matters..
[07:08] <soundray> d5dq, add it to /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[07:08] <d5dq> cool
[07:08] <novaaa> soundray: new user fixed it
[07:08] <soundray> seroxat, does it display the console login?
[07:09] <seroxat> soundray: yes but shortly after the error messege comes
[07:09] <seroxat> it tries to start it so the screen blanks a few times before
[07:09] <seroxat> Knoppix works just fine..
[07:09] <DaSkreech> http://www.mathsnet.net/algebra/index.html
[07:10] <setuid> I just did a clean Hoary install, started up X, GNOME'y things start to load, and then X just sits there for about 20 minutes on the "Nautilus" part when its loading in the little progress panel.
[07:10] <setuid> Wtf?
[07:10] <Alek35skm> I'm new on ubuntu, can I ask one question?
[07:10] <seroxat> no idea what to do now.. im using irssi from console now lol
[07:10] <soundray> novaaa, I think the easiest way to fix it, then, is to delete your Gnome configuration. Unless you've put a lot of work in the panel setup etc.
[07:10] <soundray> seroxat, can you log in on the text console?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, Always.
[07:10] <seroxat> soundray: yep
[07:10] <Alek35skm> :-)
[07:10] <seroxat> im logged in now :)
[07:10] <DaSkreech> Alek35skm: Only one though
[07:10] <soundray> seroxat, and chatting on it, or on an extra machine?
[07:11] <seroxat> soundray: this is my main and only machine.
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, I would have been in a heap of trouble...
[07:11] <novaaa> soundray: nope ... the setup is nearly what you get out  of the box. what exactly do i have to copy (permissions*?*) ?
[07:11] <setuid> Anyone?
[07:11] <DaSkreech> tonyyarusso: For?
[07:11] <soundray> seroxat, what does ddcprobe give you? (Use pastebin if output is long)
[07:12] <Alek35skm> hot to add codec pack here.. i found mplayer but for new user have some difficulties with it.. have some videos with unsupported codec pack
[07:12] <seroxat> soundray: i cant paste or anything
[07:12] <seroxat> but i will try
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, If I only got one question.
[07:12] <seroxat> hmm how does one exit IRSSI?
[07:12] <bolrod> /quit
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, What type of videos?
[07:12] <damien82> ;)
[07:12] <Alek35skm> gimp video demos
[07:12] <novaaa> setuid: maybe start X with verbosity and find out what exactly sits ?
[07:13] <setuid> I just dropped my ~/.xinitrc into $HOME from a backup, now its working... silly X
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, What file type?
[07:13] <Alek35skm> found somewhere
[07:13] <Alek35skm> .avi
[07:13] <Kevin> i have a question
[07:13] <Drac[Server] > I can mount my Laptop's DVD drive without problems, but I can't copy files off of it. cp returns "input/output error"   What's the problem? I'm trying to mount an ordinary CD-RW.
[07:13] <soundray> novaaa, you have to log out of X and run on a console or in failsafe mode. Then you should move the .gnome, .gnome2, .gconf, .gconfd and .gnome2_private directories to a backup location. They will be recreated if you log into gnome again.
[07:14] <Kevin> how do i use yahoo launch with firefox 1.5?
[07:14] <Alek35skm> they don't open with totem (have breeze)
[07:14] <MeWhOeLsE_> Hay... jsut wondering if anyone is having trouble accessing the ubuntu repositories... I'm geting extreamely slow connection (200B/s) and its gets to about 38% then just fails on most of the lists... I've not even got to downloading the packages yet... lol
[07:14] <DaSkreech> MeWhOeLsE_: Nope just did a full upgrade
[07:14] <soundray> seroxat, you can always download the pastebin script from http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin and send a file to pastebin with it.
[07:14] <MeWhOeLsE_> oh well... hmm... weird
[07:15] <soundray> seroxat, /var/log/Xorg.0.log would be interesting to see.
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, I believe that's a container, could be anything.  Probably a restricted format issue, which wouldn't be fixed with Ubuntu packages.
[07:15] <Alek35skm> something about Installing FFmpeg libavcodec/libavutil/libavformat
[07:15] <Drac[Server] > Anyone? I can't seem to mount any removable media on this laptop. Why?
[07:15] <Kevin> i was wondering how that a person would watch yahoo music videos and such which are internet explorer only, on ubuntu
[07:15] <novaaa> soundray: ill do so. thnx for your help
[07:15] <soundray> novaaa, hope you get it fixed.
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, (You still use Totem with Firefox?)
[07:16] <robotgeek> Kevin: it is possible to do so on firefox in linux, and without the ads
[07:16] <Kevin> i tried the thing on the forums
[07:16] <Kevin> but it was for 1.0.7
[07:16] <Alek35skm> some new player? with built in codecs? with easysest apt-get install
[07:16] <Alek35skm> :-)
[07:16] <DaSkreech> vlc?
[07:17] <Alek35skm> yes totem with firefox
[07:17] <robotgeek> no, firefox + mplayer + w32codecs + mplayer plugin + greasemonkey + relevant script
[07:17] <soundray> Drac[Server] , how are you trying to mount, and do you get any errors?
[07:17] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, Partially.  Restricted format codecs can not be provided by Ubuntu through apt for legal reasons.  I use mplayer, with w32codecs, available either through apt with PLF repos, or !restrictedformats.
[07:17] <oly> hi, is there currently issues with dapper drake flight 3 networking when i try and grab an ip with dhclient eth1, i get dhcp-class-identifier this happens on wired and wireless
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Couldn't you get rid of the ads with just the adblock extension?
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> oly:  dapper seems to have a lot of issues :P
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> Does elinks support javascript?
[07:18] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: i dunno, never acutally installed flash
[07:18] <oly> lol, yeah but was not sue if its known about or if its worth reporting
[07:19] <Kevin> when i went to the topic of how to play launch in firefox, it has an extension for firefox, but it's for firefox 1.0.7. I'm using firefox 1.5
[07:19] <oly> i would think it is known, does not look specific to a network card or anything
[07:19] <soundray> Dr_Willis, that's in the nature of beta software.
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Why would you need flash?
[07:19] <Dr_Willis> oly:  may want to check the forum on dapper.  I just now managed to get the thing booting right.
[07:19] <Alek35skm> i think that i need this one, but do not know how to install them  FFmpeg (already downloaded)
[07:19] <soundray> oly, there aren't any dapper problems worth reporting *here*.
[07:19] <Drac[Server] > soundray, I'm mounting as root, and I don't get errors mounting with "auto", but I can't copy anything. cp returns "input/output" error.
[07:20] <robotgeek> Kevin: greasemonkey works fine in 1.5 (AFAIK), so you only need the updated script
[07:20] <oly> i had planned to but my main puter is having issues with the ubuntuforums currently :p
[07:20] <soundray> Drac[Server] , does this happen with all media?
[07:20] <DaSkreech> Is it possible to use the Install CD as a rescue CD?
[07:20] <Kevin> ok thanks robotgeek
[07:20] <Dr_Willis> Ubuntu Forums seems to be having some issues lately as well.
[07:20] <oly> will try it again later
[07:20] <oly> lol
[07:20] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: exactly, i never installed it
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, I believe you just type "rescue" as the installation type.
[07:21] <Drac[Server] > soundray, yes, anything removable it seems. The floppy won't mount, and I can't copy from any CDs.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, My question being, how did we even get on the topic of flash?
[07:21] <Alek35skm> can you give me some link for pdf file for basic knowledge of ubuntu?
[07:21] <DaSkreech> tonyyarusso: Of course! Duh!
[07:21] <soundray> Drac[Server] , not mounting and I/O errors are two different kettle of fish though.
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> Alek35skm, I don't know if there is one, but the wiki is your friend.
[07:21] <robotgeek> tonyyarusso: i dunno, ads on yahoo? offtopic by now :)
[07:21] <DaSkreech> grub threw a Error 18 on attempt to load
[07:21] <Kevin> i have a question also. i have a logitech 5.1 setup. the front speakers and sub work, i would like to have stereo surround so i can use all the speakers. is this possible? im using ubuntu breezy
[07:21] <Drac[Server] > soundray, I can browse the CD and run stuff off of it, and audio CDs work. It's not really a mounting error so much as it is a copying error.
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Oh well.
[07:23] <soundray> Drac[Server] , does it happen with every file you try to cp?
[07:24] <Kevin> i have a question also. i have a logitech 5.1 setup. the front speakers and sub work, i would like to have stereo surround so i can use all the speakers. is this possible? im using ubuntu breezy
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> Either something changed with Xanga or Firefox, because protected posts are showing up correctly now.  Yay for somebody.
[07:26] <robotgeek> *robotgeek for president*
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> robotgeek, Of where?
[07:26] <nalioth> robotgeek: politics in #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:26] <robotgeek> nalioth: sorry
[07:27] <Pavix> Anyone know how I could mount my mp3 player. It connects via USB cable
[07:27] <Drac[Server] > soundray, yes, and now I realize that it cannot read the files. It sees them, but not correctly.
[07:27] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Hey
[07:27] <DaSkreech> Pavix: Which laer?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> player?
[07:28] <Pavix> nm, it automouted
[07:28] <soundray> Drac[Server] , does it matter whether you sudo or not?
[07:28] <DaSkreech> Pavix: Much better :-)
[07:28] <Pavix> DaSkreech: MobiBLU
[07:28] <DaSkreech> So what are my options if grub cannot recognize the hard drive?
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, Play with it until it does.  Mine didn't realize that /boot was it's own partition, but when I edited the root line it was happy.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> Anyone with a ThinkPad: What kind of battery life do you get?
[07:29] <DaSkreech> tonyyarusso: But it knew the hard drive was there?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, Well yeah.  What exactly is it telling you?
[07:30] <Drac[Server] > soundray, I haven't tried sudo. It's an offline system so I set the root password. I'm doing this as root.
[07:30] <Drac[Server] > soundray, actually, I think I tried it as sudo, too.
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Searching For BIOS Hard Drives
[07:30] <DaSkreech> Error opening Trminal
[07:30] <MeWhOeLsE> I'm wondering if someone can help me. I'm a total linux n00b. Just installed ubuntu... I've got webaccess and IRC and stuff... In fact every internet related thing is fine... but forsoem reason I can't access teh repositories and when I do... tis extreamly slow and seems to be very intermittant... can anyone give me any pointer on how to recify this?
[07:31] <DaSkreech> terminal
[07:31] <DaSkreech> this is at a promt
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, Oh, that's different than my problem.
[07:31] <DaSkreech> On boot up it says trying to load GRUB: Error 18
[07:31] <DaSkreech> Yah :-)
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> DaSkreech, And unfortunately I can't stick around to find out more, because I just realized what time it is and I have to catch a bus to get to class.  Sorry, and good luck.
[07:31] <TheMagus> is there an installion guide to ubuntu that I could print out?
[07:32] <MrPockets> when im plauing mysic via XMMS, and a sound like an Ubuntu or GAIM sound plays, the music gets all screatchy
[07:32] <MrPockets> is this fixable?
[07:32] <tavathlon> does anyone here have any experience of GRUB error 17 and/or error 22? GRUB doesn't start, only gives these two messages (which one depends on whether the swap is first och last on the system disk, which is _not_ hda)
[07:32] <Drac[Server] > MrPockets, stop using OSS. :)
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  theres not a lot to instlling it :P
[07:32] <MrPockets> whats oss?
[07:32] <robotgeek> tavathlon: i can give you a list of grub error codes
[07:33] <tavathlon> robotgeek; that would be great!
[07:33] <TheMagus> is it as easy as installing...let's say, windows XP?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  if you have a 2nd hard drive  and let Ubuntu installer partiotion it - its very easy
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  its about 10x faster to install then xp :P
[07:33] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Easier
[07:33] <tavathlon> themagus; almost easier  ;o)
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  but everything has its own little issues.
[07:33] <robotgeek> tavathlon: http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=122656 (first link on google :)
[07:33] <DaSkreech> tavathlon: I just installed both
[07:33] <TheMagus> I was thinking of uninstalling winxp
[07:33] <DaSkreech> It's easier
[07:34] <TheMagus> reformatting before installing linux is fine right?
[07:34] <Falstius> if you include installing the office utilities, web browser, pdf stuff, etc it is easier than XP
[07:34] <DaSkreech> ok But get used to Linu first
[07:34] <steigweis> question to english native speakers in here. Would you say that? "In order to apply for the Summer School, please send in a brief letter of motivation via e-mail to blabla@uni-koeln.de." Good style? Any corrections? plz query
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  theres no need to 'reformat'
[07:34] <Drac[Server] > soundray: *poke*
[07:34] <TheMagus> I want to get rid of windows xp though
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  you will be 'refdisking' and totally whipeing out the hd. Or repartitioning them.
[07:34] <MeWhOeLsE> TheMagnus - I installed XP... then used Partition magic to give me 20GB for linux... then isntalled ubuntu tehre
[07:34] <Pavix> Another quick question. I have a olympus digital cam that my folks gave me, there was a custom app that we could connect the camera to the serial port on my PC and download the pictures. Are there any apps that can get pics off a camera through serial ports?
[07:34] <concept10> steigweis, drop the plz
[07:35] <DaSkreech> ok trying a boot partition
[07:35] <steigweis> concept10, thx
[07:35] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: If you want to e rid of XP make sure you back up your data
[07:35] <i60> TheMagus, here's a video http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu+install
[07:35] <tavathlon> robotgeek; thanx!  =)
[07:35] <DaSkreech> Then go right ahead
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> TheMagus,  you are thinking in windows terms :P thers no need to reformat a windowsd drive - since linux will then re-reformat it for linux file system
[07:35] <DaSkreech> The install has an otion to format eerything
[07:36] <TheMagus> hmmm
[07:36] <soundray> Drac[Server] , eek!
[07:36] <TheMagus> I see
[07:36] <TheMagus> I guess I'll watch that video
[07:36] <TheMagus> thanks DaSkreech
[07:36] <concept10> why do they give a high five on that video? lol
[07:37] <Drac[Server] > soundray: Hehe. Anyway, any idea? I can't read the files, but I can see them.
[07:37] <DaSkreech> hi skippy
[07:37] <skippy> aloha.  Has anyone successfully compiled Avidemux on Breezy?  I'm getting errors, and could use some help.   http://pastebin.com/511695
[07:37] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Sure
[07:37] <skippy> hi DaSkreech
[07:37] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Dont forget to back up your data!!!
[07:37] <tavathlon> robotgeek; do you know anything else about those errors? I found out that GRUB doesn't recognize the filesystem of the partition. I suppose that means the filesystem of where grub is, but I don't understand - it works perfect on my computer, but not om my friends...
[07:37] <soundray> Drac[Server] , I/O errors are usually to do with media surface or other hardware errors.
[07:38] <TheMagus> yes, my data is already backed up
[07:38] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Good to go
[07:38] <robotgeek> tavathlon: no, i got a x86 computer only last week. and i don't dual boot also
[07:38] <infoB> hello, what is the most common text based browser (i need a way not to leave console)?
[07:38] <skippy> infoB: lynx or links
[07:38] <tavathlon> robotgeek; oki, thanks anyway!
[07:38] <skippy> infoB: or w3m
[07:38] <soundray> Drac[Server] , did you say you get them on every data CD/DVD?
[07:38] <TheMagus> what does that video mean by "hose" your computer?
[07:38] <DaSkreech> so back to my Firefox + Java is screwed question
[07:38] <jrattner1> What is the Mail Exchanger, in an MX record?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Lose all your stuff?
[07:39] <TheMagus> so they don't literally mean spray it with a hose then? :p
[07:39] <infoB> skippy, is there anyone installed with ubuntu by default?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> Anyone have 1.0.7 and the Breezy java installed?
[07:39] <concept10> TheMagus, they are just being funny
[07:39] <ubuntu> !tell me about ntfs
[07:39] <skippy> infoB: no clue.  I'm not at my Ubuntu machine.
[07:39] <DaSkreech> TheMagus: Nope :-) Though that would have the same effect ;-)
[07:39] <TheMagus> yeah, I wish they'd stop trying to be funny and get to the point :p
[07:39] <poimen> hello I work as a financial analist for Primerica and Primerica offers me a arrange of tools only availible for Windows   I am currently a linux user and lover! I installed crossover office and the programs did not work... I think the only why I have is vmware but I have a issue I need to use a printer I have a usb one and when I plug it in into my machine windows on vmware install it and it works but it works untill the printer driver auto load on linux a
[07:39] <poimen> nd it screw ups.
[07:39] <poimen> someone kwons how to help me?
[07:39] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tell ubuntu about ntfs
[07:40] <ubuntu> DaSkreech, thanks
[07:40] <i60> concept10 i high-five my Mum every time i tell her the same thing - nothing wrong with that!
[07:40] <Drac[Server] > soundray: So far. This CD is slightly corrupted, but it reads okay in my newer DVD drive in my other computer. Should this matter? The CD-RWs can't burn perfectly, and they're all I have left.
[07:40] <concept10> i60, heh :)
[07:41] <ubuntu> what is the recover grub factiod
[07:41] <i60> :D
[07:41] <belkin> hi all
[07:41] <Elsan_> How can I change the maximum amount of apt cache? It's currently taking lots of space...
[07:41] <soundray> Drac[Server] , is the drive itself removable? Maybe the connections is dodgy.
[07:42] <ubuntu> Elsan_, well you can adjust that in synaptic, that is the simplest way of doing it
[07:42] <belkin> its there any tool thats allows me to view all installed packages with description will be much better :) ?
[07:42] <Elsan_> ubuntu: How?
[07:42] <skippy> belkin: `dpkg -l` in a console
[07:42] <ViViD> i just upgraded my kernel from 2.6.12-10.25-386 to 2.6.12-10.26-386, and now the graphical boot shows the Xubuntu image...anyone know why it doesnt say Ubuntu anymore?
[07:42] <Elsan_> ubuntu: I see the option to delete only...
[07:42] <Drac[Server] > soundray, it is.. That's possible, I suppose. The drive is removable in the sense that it slides out easily. Like I said, though, it can see the files just fine and has no trouble checking permissions and such on them. I just can't read the file contents... with anything.
[07:43] <DShepherd> ViViD, I have had that issue for a while now.. I dont know why
[07:43] <ubuntu> Elsan_, if you use settings preferences files
[07:43] <Stormx2> hey all =)
[07:43] <ubuntu> Elsan_, within synaptic package manager
[07:43] <DShepherd> does anyone know the answer to ViViD question? I would like to know too
[07:43] <belkin> skippy that show me only the installed packages ?
[07:44] <ViViD> it seems to be related to the new version of the 2.6.12-10 kernel
[07:44] <ubuntu> belkin, you can set synaptic to show all files
[07:44] <skippy> belkin: I'm petty sure.
[07:44] <ubuntu> sort by installed
[07:44] <DShepherd> ViViD, no.. i think its due to the upgrade of any kernel. and you having xfce installed
[07:44] <soundray> Drac[Server] , dodgy hardware. Find (someone with) a USB drive, and see if you still get those errors.
[07:44] <ViViD> but i dont have xfce installed
[07:45] <DShepherd> ViViD, its has happened to me and I havent upgraded to the new kernel yet
[07:45] <ubuntu> Seveas, the factoid for recovering grub seems to be gone
[07:45] <belkin> ubuntu ahh synaptic its the graphic one isnt it ?
[07:45] <DShepherd> ViViD, ah.. well I do... but this happened when I when to .25
[07:45] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell ubuntu about recover
[07:45] <ubuntu> robotgeek, thanks
[07:45] <alainlucas> Is there a command to reduce the size of a PNG image by two ?
[07:46] <ViViD> anyone know where configuration options for the graphical boot process are?
[07:46] <ubuntu> robotgeek, I thhough that grub was the same factoid
[07:46] <robotgeek> alainlucas: look at the package 'imagemagick' and the convert command
[07:46] <DaSkreech> Elsan_: Apt-get clean
[07:46] <Seveas> !grub
[07:46] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[07:46] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: No one knows!!
[07:47] <deefzi> !tell deefzi about alsa
[07:47] <ubuntu> Seveas, thanks
[07:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, why the world is not flat!!.. me neither
[07:47] <belkin> ubuntu rocks man
[07:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, beats me
[07:47] <koraman> 192.168.1.1
[07:47] <ubuntu> Seveas, catch ya later
[07:47] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: What do you mean it isn't flat?
[07:47] <Drac[Server] > soundray, okay. I'll do that. Would this also account for the floppy not mounting? The whole thing may have been dropped at one point. It was given to me. An old Gateway.
[07:47] <ViViD> DShepherd, try removing the packages xubuntu-artwork and/or xubuntu-artwork-usplash
[07:47] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, are you saying it is? :-O?
[07:48] <DaSkreech> Where slackers hang out
[07:48] <DaSkreech> No offense DShepherd :)
[07:48] <soundray> Drac[Server] , does the not-mounting go with any error messages?
[07:48] <ktogias> Hi again,
[07:48] <Ottoman> hi
[07:48] <lilliput> hello all
[07:48] <Nogimics> anyone know of a decent FTP Bouncer?
[07:48] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, ok slacker
[07:49] <Ottoman> has anyone been able to compile ndiswrapper with gcc 4.0?
[07:49] <ktogias> Nautilus previews mp3 audio files when I leave the mouse pointer on them. but won't preview ogg files...
[07:50] <Drac[Server] > soundray, that's the thing, it DOES mount. It just doesn't read at all. I shut the laptop off to clean the connections with alchohol, so I can't check.
[07:50] <Eszenia> hi
[07:50] <Eszenia> is it possible to install ubuntu on a fc4 machine and have both distros?
[07:50] <Nogimics> Anyone know of an FTP Bouncer I can run on a shell pls?
[07:50] <Eszenia> or is a new partition necessary?
[07:50] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: So I think I figured it out amd it
[07:50] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: And it's a /boot partition
[07:51] <MeWhOeLsE> ok... erm... really need help now... I've been trying to wrok out why synaptic can't access my net properly... everything works... I've even been able to update my repositories using "apt-get update" can anyone help me solve why this program can;t egt net access properly
[07:51] <DaSkreech> Eszenia: Running at the same time or have a choice of booting one or the other?
[07:51] <Eszenia> choice ofeither
[07:51] <Eszenia> i want to see if i can get suspend to ram working in ubuntu
[07:51] <DaSkreech> MeWhOeLsE: Huh?
[07:51] <Eszenia> i cannot resume on my fc4 distro
[07:51] <quad_> Does the highlight words in x-chat take wildcards?
[07:51] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, what are you talking about?
[07:51] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, fix what
[07:51] <DShepherd> ?
[07:52] <quad_> Like, does the word quad* use the wildcard?
[07:52] <DaSkreech> Eszenia: Sure it requires a new partition though
[07:52] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: The Grub Error issue
[07:52] <Eszenia> k
[07:52] <CarinArr> !repositories
[07:52] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:52] <Eszenia> how much is a normal install?
[07:52] <MeWhOeLsE> Synaptic can't et access to the net... and when it does its really crappy... and eveything else works fine
[07:52] <Silent_al> has anyone here successfully printed with a HP720c on breezy ?
[07:52] <Eszenia> can i do it in 800mb?
[07:52] <Eszenia> i just want to determine if i can get suspend to ram working
[07:53] <DaSkreech> Eszenia: thought of using a Live Cd?
[07:53] <DaSkreech> hi Pa
[07:53] <DaSkreech> hi paul
[07:53] <paul_> hi
[07:53] <Drac[Server] > soundray, well, I can't clean these connections, they're too oddly shaped. Regardless.. um.. Yeah, it mounts, but it can't read it...
[07:53] <paul_> iam new here
[07:53] <deefzi> my ALSA seems to be working and installed (atleast according to that alsamixer's working) but i can't get two soundchannels (i.e. fe. xmms & mplayer) playing same time? what's the problem?
[07:54] <Eszenia> does livecd have suspend to ram?
[07:54] <soundray> Drac[Server] , the whole problem seems strange to me, but it really doesn't sound like there's any software thing you can fix.... unless perhap...
[07:54] <penkoad> hi all
[07:54] <DaSkreech> AIR the Live CD is he same as an Ubuntu installation
[07:54] <soundray> Drac[Server] , could it be IRQ related?
[07:54] <DaSkreech> so Yeah I guess :-)
[07:55] <paul_> can someone tell me where i can find the resoucelist of ubuntu in Germany
[07:55] <tavathlon> anyone who knows how to solve GRUB error 17? (error 17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[07:55] <tavathlon> This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB)
[07:55] <vano> can someone tell me how to add the -i (tcp/ip listen) flag to the postgresql config for an ubuntu install? I have been searching for hours and cannot find where to put it. Thanks
[07:55] <Eszenia> anyone know if livecd can do suspend to ram?
[07:55] <Eszenia> i was told knoppix dvd could not suspend to ram
[07:55] <soundray> tavathlon, sounds like you're trying to access a DOS extended partition.
[07:56] <penkoad> vano did u try /etc/init.d/pgsquel ?
[07:56] <CanadianSnow> who the hell took my name
[07:56] <vano> penkoad nothing there .. it only calls start/stop/restart $VERSION
[07:56] <pm> help! i think  i've got a virus!
[07:56] <vano> penkoad I need to add it to the line where postmaster is called...
[07:57] <penkoad> of vourse vano
[07:57] <paul_> excuse me, are there some one in Germany? who can tell me where to find the resoucelist in Germany
[07:57] <tavathlon> soundray; I'm not quite sure what that means, but there is winxp on hda already, and that's where we are trying to put grub - is that what you mean?
[07:57] <vano> penkoad but where is that place... I was looking for a place for "additional options" .. but cannot find anything
[07:57] <DaSkreech> Eszenia: Well .. I can't vouch but if you can get it working on Ubuntu you should be able to get it working on Live CD as long as it doesn't involve a kernel upgrade
[07:57] <CanadianSnow> Does anyone know how I can find out what my graphic and or audio cards are?
[07:57] <pm> can anyone help me?
[07:58] <Alex7432> quelqu'un parle franais?
[07:58] <thierry_> oui bonjour
[07:58] <Schnitz> hi all
[07:58] <robotgeek> !fr
[07:58] <CanadianSnow> Because I dont know what they are, but the "AUTO detection" sais it wants to know what I have
[07:58] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:58] <Alex7432> thierry_, tu peux peut-tre m'aider?
[07:58] <penkoad> vano the /etc/init.d/  script calls another script or directly the binary ?
[07:58] <Schnitz> has anyone succesfully installed informix ids 9.x on ubuntu?
[07:58] <thierry_> dis toujours
[07:58] <CanadianSnow> Which kinda defeats the purpose of ATUOdetection
[07:58] <DaSkreech> paul: Resource list?
[07:58] <robotgeek> penkoad: actually a script
[07:58] <xeon_> hi can someone help me? im a noob :s
[07:58] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: Where is this?
[07:58] <DeViLuS> hi thierry_
[07:58] <paul_> daskreech, yes, where can i find it?
[07:58] <robotgeek> penkoad: it's a script which might call other scripts/programs
[07:58] <progrock> I just did a fresh install, (2.6.12-9-686)... thren did apt-get update, then apt-get upgrade... it upgraded to 2.6.12-10-686... do I have to recompile the kernel?
[07:58] <CanadianSnow> pm get a virus scanner
[07:59] <i60> pm do you know which file it is? if so scan it at virusscan.jotti.org/
[07:59] <penkoad> so look in the script ;) , sorry i don't have pgsql installed
[07:59] <soundray> tavathlon, no. In a standard PC hard disk with multiple partitions, you will have one or more primary partitions (Linux: hda1-hda4) and one or more logical partitions (from hda5). The logical ones are contained in a so-called extended partition.
[07:59] <DaSkreech> paul_: huh? What Resource list?
[07:59] <CanadianSnow> DaSkreech u mean autodetection?
[07:59] <vano> penkoad looks like it calls another library.. I checked there.. but it is a very messy script.. so messy I really cant figure out what it does or where to I could put the flag.. doesnt seem right to touch that
[07:59] <Alex7432> thierry_, ben voila,j'ai l'cran en 800x660 et j'voulais changer la rsolution,j'ai reconfig dans le terminal (3 fois) et a n'a rien chang mme aprs quelques reboots
[07:59] <saif> rg
[07:59] <CanadianSnow> Its like x-org or something, I actually forgot to write that down also (DaSkreech
[07:59] <penkoad> vano can you pastebin.com it ?
[07:59] <paul_> resoucelist in Germany
[07:59] <xeon_> i cant use my wifi, it need to be activated by a button, can someone help me
[07:59] <owner> ubuntuforums down
[07:59] <pm> i60, Server is extremely busy at the moment. Please try again later :(
[08:00] <thierry_> tu es all dans system/resolution cran ?
[08:00] <paul_> where i can apt-get the software convieniently
[08:00] <robotgeek> thierry_: please use #ubuntu-fr
[08:00] <Alex7432> thierry_, voui,premire chose que j'ai essay mais j'ai aucune option a part ma rsolution actuelle
[08:00] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: Yeah
[08:00] <soundray> tavathlon, make sure you point grub to the right partition. hdaN translates to (hd0,(N-1) usually. I.e. hda5 becomes (hd0,4).
[08:00] <CanadianSnow> yeah
[08:00] <DaSkreech> ubotu: tell Alex7432 about fr
[08:00] <Bizzeh> hey, is it posible to preload some stuff into a partition from windows, and install ubuntu from that so it runs on the actual hardware, instead of using a cd?
[08:00] <thierry_> tu as quoi comme carte video ?
[08:01] <soundray> paul, de.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:01] <owner> that new kernel update already broke alsa oss emulation
[08:01] <i60> pm, www.virustotal.com/
[08:01] <owner> i have no dev/dsp
[08:01] <paul_> ok, thank you soundray
[08:01] <paul_> i will try
[08:01] <CanadianSnow> Can I get AVG Free on linux?
[08:01] <soundray> paul_, gern geschehen.
[08:01] <cyfer> how could you get a virus on ubuntu?
[08:01] <CanadianSnow> its possible
[08:01] <soundray> cyfer, write one.
[08:01] <belkin> why its there no root user ?
[08:01] <xeon_> soundray greets from shadox
[08:01] <paul_> entschuldigen sie,
[08:02] <owner> brb
[08:02] <Alex7432> thierry_, heuh j'ai fait une commande pour chercher ma version de carte vido et a roule de ce cot
[08:02] <Bizzeh> cyfer: you dont need root to get a virus
[08:02] <soundray> xeon_, hi shadox :)
[08:02] <CanadianSnow> lol owner
[08:02] <DaSkreech> soundray: What is he talking about?
[08:02] <kumakun> Did the forums go down?
[08:02] <kotatsu> belkin: there is, but root has no password
[08:02] <belkin> i didnt even set up one during the instaletion , why ? i dont need it ?
[08:02] <xeon_> soundray shadox said you can help me out with a question
[08:02] <DaSkreech> kumakun: Yeah
[08:02] <paul_> ich bin Chinsese, aber ich whone in Deutschland
[08:02] <belkin> kotatsu no password ?
[08:02] <soundray> DaSkreech, I could explain it to you, but I'd have to kill you afterwards :)
[08:02] <Alex7432> thierry_, ensuite,y'a eu l'cran mon cran,j'ai entr le code de l'cran,choisi la rsolution et a a rien chang
[08:02] <kumakun> Fair enough. Just wanted to be sure it wasn't me.
[08:02] <kotatsu> belkin: you can use sudo to gain root access
[08:02] <DaSkreech> soundray: Does he mean the repositories?
[08:03] <soundray> xeon_, possibly. If not, I'm sure someone else can.
[08:03] <kotatsu> belkin: sudo -s | sudo -i | su -
[08:03] <belkin> kotatsu i know , but how do i have the root password ?
[08:03] <tavathlon> soundray; okay, so if there is already three partitions, then we should point grub to hda4, right? but then we have the next problem: how do we do that??  :S
[08:03] <DaSkreech> soundray: 0 for false 1 for true :)
[08:03] <CanadianSnow> hello?
[08:03] <TheMagus> what is the "x server?"
[08:03] <soundray> DaSkreech, you're talking about paul? He meant repositories.
[08:03] <kotatsu> belkin: or if you want to be able to log in as root you can do sudo passwd
[08:03] <thierry_> tu l'as fait avec quelle commande ? xf86config ?
[08:03] <xeon_> soundray can you tell me how I can activate my wifi? my card must be activated by a buton
[08:03] <DaSkreech> soundray: Ok Thanks Just wanted to confirm that
[08:03] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332   can someone help me with a totem error?
[08:03] <CanadianSnow> could someone help me 2 plz :p sorry if i come across as impatient tho
[08:03] <soundray> tavathlon, no, you shouldn't point grub to an extended partition.
[08:03] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: where are you on the CLI?
[08:03] <Alex7432> thierry_, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:04] <CanadianSnow> CLI??
[08:04] <kotatsu> belkin: or you can go to System -> Administration -> Users and Groups -> Show all users and groups -> root properties
[08:04] <DaSkreech> Terminal Sorry
[08:04] <thierry_> bizarre
[08:04] <jims> The Magus: It is what controls the graphical display.
[08:04] <Yokalosh> hey, how do you uninstall realplayer... i can't find out how anywhere :(
[08:04] <CanadianSnow> I have Totem error also, but thats because Ubuntu Doesn't know I have a soundcard :S
[08:04] <belkin> kotatsu passwd: password updated successfully
[08:04] <tavathlon> soundray, hm, oki. So I should make sure to install grub on a logical partition, right?
[08:04] <belkin> kotatsu so now im able to log in as root ?
[08:05] <kotatsu> belkin: looks like you're all set then, should be able to log in as root
[08:05] <dunnix> Hi all
[08:05] <i60> CanadianSnow, do you want a free AV? if so clam and f-prot are good
[08:05] <soundray> tavathlon, hold on two ticks...
[08:05] <belkin> kotatsu thanks
[08:05] <tavathlon> soundray; oki
[08:05] <kotatsu> belkin: welcome
[08:06] <CanadianSnow> I have a Free AV, Its Called "AVG FREE" but I was wondering if I could install it in Ubuntu (i60?
[08:06] <nalioth> CanadianSnow: tehre are no viruses on linux
[08:06] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: Nope No need
[08:06] <owner> viruses arent a serious problem in linux
[08:06] <soundray> xeon_, shadox overestimates me. I have no experience with such cards... Just describe the problem to everyone here.
[08:06] <CanadianSnow> DaSkreechCLI??
[08:06] <DaSkreech> nalioth: Not totally true
[08:06] <owner> rootkits are the real threat
[08:06] <DaSkreech> nalioth: There are surly no malicious virii in the wild though
[08:06] <i60> CanadianSnow, they do one but i don't know if it's free ???
[08:06] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: the terminal
[08:06] <xeon_> soundray i did that, no one react, shadox thought you could maybe help us out
[08:06] <ViViD> DShepherd, to change the image back to default do this, apt-get remove xubuntu-artwork-usplash, then dpkg-reconfigure linux-image-$(uname -r)
[08:06] <tavathlon> soundray; um, I meant a primary partition, not logical  =P
[08:07] <Bizzeh> hey, is it posible to preload some stuff into a partition from windows, and install ubuntu from that so it runs on the actual hardware, instead of using a cd?
[08:07] <Yokalosh> i installed realplayer using the .bin file and now i want to uninstall it because it isnt functioning properley (processes just open up but nothing else) anyone know how to do this or fix the problem?
[08:07] <DShepherd> ViViD, ok
[08:07] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Wake up :-)
[08:07] <just1n> Hi, can anyone help me try the ubuntu live CD on my Windows Laptop? I've followed previous help and failed to get the CD to 'take'. My machine just ignores the CD of ubuntu and runs Windows XP as usual...someone suggested I needed to burn the CD with the .65Mb .exe and then just load it and turn the machine on. So, any more ideas pls?
[08:07] <thierry_> alex 7432 : tu devrais installer les drivers de ta carte video , fais un tour sur le wiki
[08:07] <CanadianSnow> oh
[08:07] <owner> yoka, what doesnt play in realplayer?
[08:07] <ViViD> DShepherd, to customize the image try this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[08:07] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, huh?? are you on crack!!
[08:07] <soundray> tavathlon, when you *install* grub, you usually put it on hda. Then it lands in the boot sector, not in a partition.
[08:07] <kotatsu> just1n: make sure your BIOS is set to boot from CD -- does the windows setup disc boot?
[08:07] <meisam> what is the executive file in ubuntu
[08:07] <DaSkreech> just1n: try making sure the laptop boots from Cd?
[08:07] <DShepherd> ViViD, thanks
[08:07] <thierry_> alex7432 : donne moi le modele de ta carte je cherche de mon cote
[08:07] <meisam> ?
[08:07] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: You can remove the xubuntu image now :)
[08:08] <TheMagus> hmmm. would I not be able to play games such as gunz online, flyff online, etc on linux?
[08:08] <kotatsu> meisam: what do you mean? the filetype that can execute?
[08:08] <xeon_> soundray do you know how i can install a .tgz package?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Just making sure you were here to hear
[08:08] <CanadianSnow> My Teacher Has Gotten Me A Completly Free Version Of AVG, Which I Use On My Windows Machine
[08:08] <just1n> no - Windows doesnt boot from a CD.
[08:08] <Alex7432> thierry_, heuh,j'me rapelle plus :s
[08:08] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, yeah hopefullt
[08:08] <meisam> i mean like in windows we have exe
[08:08] <DShepherd> y*
[08:08] <Yokalosh> owner: realplayer doesnt actually execute properley (no gui etc) just the processes are visible in system monitor
[08:08] <Alex7432> thierry_,  comment j'peux me rafraichir la mmoire?
[08:08] <DaSkreech> just1n: Right make sure the laptop boots from Cd
[08:08] <soundray> tavathlon, you tell grub which kernel to boot by pointing it to the location on the partition where it resides.
[08:08] <redguy> Alex7432, thierry_ : how about joining #ubuntu-fr ?
[08:08] <redguy> !fr
[08:08] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:08] <kotatsu> just1n: okay, that's probably your problem... when your computer turns on there should be a "press (key) to enter setup" message
[08:08] <dunnix> you dont need AVG...
[08:08] <DaSkreech> just1n: Some of them you have to ress F11 or F12 to get it to boot from Cd at the start
[08:09] <owner> thats weird yoka
[08:09] <Alex7432> redguy, i will joint later if i doesnt found help here :)
[08:09] <sockpuppe1> how can I take a screenshot of my grub bootspash ?
[08:09] <soundray> xeon_, let's start from the beginning. You are trying to install a WiFi card. What chipset is it?
[08:09] <Alex7432> -t
[08:09] <just1n> i'll see if I can interrupt the laptop boot process.
[08:09] <Yokalosh> just1n: on some laptops you have to press escape on boot real fast to get a menu up allowing you to get to bios
[08:09] <kotatsu> meisam: by default linux supports ELF and a.out... you can add others... anything executable will try to be run, and if you have the approriate software it will run
[08:09] <redguy> Alex7432: if you plan staying here, speak english please
[08:09] <soundray> sockpuppe1, with a camera.
[08:09] <just1n> thks <DaSkreech>
[08:09] <speedybits> Hi, I was hoping someone could help me find out why my Ubuntu 5.10 has recently slowed down with CPU use of 100%. Both 'htop' and 'top' report minimal CPU usage, but gnome-system-monitor says 100%
[08:09] <Alex7432> redguy, okay,sorry :)
[08:09] <DaSkreech> just1n: Right :)
[08:09] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7332   can someone help me with a totem error?
[08:09] <kotatsu> meisam: like you can execute python if you have the python interpreter, .NET if you have mono, .exe if you have wine
[08:09] <sockpuppe1> soundray is that really the only way?
[08:09] <meisam> kotatsu can i be in touch with u?
[08:10] <Yokalosh> owner: yeh, you got any ideas?
[08:10] <meisam> mor
[08:10] <kotatsu> meisam: there is no One True Executable format'
[08:10] <CanadianSnow> My Teacher Has Gotten Me A Completly Free Version Of AVG, Which I Use On My Windows Machine i60
[08:10] <Answer> Hello.  I have a question how to see the packet information that is coming inbound to my server?  I am getting flooded on port 80
[08:10] <kotatsu> meisam: ok
[08:10] <just1n> and tks Yokalosh
[08:10] <owner> i had to copy realplay to usr/bin
[08:10] <thierry_> alex rejoins #ubuntu-fr
[08:10] <Yokalosh> :)
[08:10] <|stukas|> hello! any experts here? does it matter if i install Breezy Badger preview from some time ago or should i download the new ISO ? or can i update the preview to the most recent 5.10 release when installed ?
[08:10] <owner> for real media to play in firefox
[08:10] <i60> CanadianSnow, you have to install a Linux version
[08:10] <CanadianSnow> brb everyone
[08:10] <owner> just the one file
[08:10] <owner> realplay
[08:10] <Yokalosh> just1n: np :)
[08:10] <owner> its a script
[08:10] <CanadianSnow> alright i60
[08:10] <meisam> this is my id: you can add me lmlelilslalm
[08:10] <soundray> sockpuppe1, I'm afraid so. If it's about an error, you can turn off the boot splash.
[08:10] <meisam> may i have your id
[08:10] <meisam> yahoo id
[08:11] <ktogias> I think I found why nautilus doesn't preview ogg files in breezy... It is an ogg123 bug... When over an ogg file nautilus produces the message "Error opening - using the oggvorbis module.  The file may be corrupted."... Googling i found this: http://lists.xiph.org/pipermail/vorbis/2004-June/025185.html ... Does anybody knows anything more about that? Is there a bug report? Will it be someday fixed?
[08:11] <kotatsu> Answer: ngrep and tcptrack provide low level information, ethereal is a nice gui to do that... you can use ifstat, tcptrack, or netstat for a higher level view of connections
[08:11] <Yokalosh> owner: it doesnt work in firefox either, if i try open it from the menu it doesnt work
[08:11] <soundray> sockpuppe1, even then, it'll be difficult to get a screenshot without copying or photographing it.
[08:11] <papaStrumpf> Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?
[08:11] <tavathlon> soundray; oki, that first one made sense, that's what I thought it was like. But the second message you sent, I did not quite understand. Do I have to enter grub.conf and point it to where itself resides? And how do I know where it resides?
[08:11] <sockpuppe1> soundray i made my on bootsplash and I want a screnshot of it so that i can distribute it
[08:11] <owner> yoka you could try the helix player
[08:11] <owner> instead
[08:11] <i60> CanadianSnow, the two i said - clam and f-prot have free versions with a graphical user interface they are easy and good to use
[08:11] <owner> but i never had any luck playing streaming media with it
[08:11] <Yokalosh> owner: i remember on debian i once had this problem where just the processes opened but nothing else did and i just had to close the dead process and then reopen real player but that doesnt work now :(
[08:12] <owner> yoka, try killall -9 realplay
[08:12] <owner> in terminal
[08:12] <owner> that will kill it
[08:12] <meisam> kotatsu may i add you in my yahoo list?
[08:12] <Yokalosh> k
[08:12] <papaStrumpf> anybody?
[08:12] <djay_> qui pourrait m aider a configurer mon linux?
[08:12] <kotatsu> meisam: I don't have yahoo, but you can message me any time I'm here in #ubuntu =)
[08:12] <soundray> tavathlon, if you've done a routine install, there should be a file /boot/grub/menu.lst which tells grub what to do on boot.
[08:13] <speedybits> Anyone know why I have a CPU use of 100% in Breezy? Both 'htop' and 'top' report minimal CPU usage, but gnome-system-monitor says 100%
[08:13] <kotatsu> meisam: it's easier to /msg kotatsu if you have a specific question, stuff doesn't get lost in the flood ><
[08:13] <soundray> sockpuppe1, sorry, I don't think this can be solved any other way.
[08:13] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Using Firefox?
[08:13] <Yokalosh> owner: its killed and still doesnt work :(
[08:13] <sockpuppe1> thanks anyway
[08:13] <meisam> what do u mean?
[08:13] <meisam> all right
[08:13] <Yokalosh> owner: how do i remove it? there isnt any installer and i want to get rid of the entrys in my gnome menu too
[08:13] <tavathlon> souldray; the thing is that grub never starts at all, it only gives error 17 when it tries to start up itself. Hm, okay. But how do I start this file?
[08:13] <meisam> would u answer me back all time
[08:13] <papaStrumpf> need a little help here
[08:14] <tavathlon> soundray; the thing is that grub never starts at all, it only gives error 17 when it tries to start up itself. Hm, okay. But how do I start this file?
[08:14] <meisam> ?
[08:14] <papaStrumpf> please
[08:14] <owner> if you installed with the .bin installer just delete the directory
[08:14] <Answer> kotatsu, the problem is all the traffic appears to be coming from our gateway and we cant isolate the source
[08:14] <owner> i think it trys to install to your home directory by default
[08:14] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, yeah
[08:14] <kotatsu> Answer: no access to the gateway itelf?
[08:14] <rackerz> Are the forums down? I can't seem to access them.
[08:14] <soundray> tavathlon, can you still boot into your Ubuntu install?
[08:14] <papaStrumpf> Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?
[08:14] <quad_> How do I set the standard way to view files, as the way the file browser views them? And not like standard nautilus.
[08:14] <meisam> kotatsu how can i install package g++ ?
[08:14] <meisam> i need to code
[08:14] <Yokalosh> owner: its put all its files spread all over /usr/bin :O
[08:14] <xeon_> soundray INTEL PRO/wireless 2200BG
[08:14] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: ok go to http://www.mathsnet.net/algebra/index.html
[08:14] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, 1.5
[08:15] <quad_> HEKP: How do I set the standard way to view files, as the way the file browser views them? And not like standard nautilus.
[08:15] <owner> yoka you installed to usr/bin ?
[08:15] <Answer> kotatsu, the gateway itself doesnt show as much traffic, but apparently for one connection thru the gateway it opens as many sockets as possible
[08:15] <quad_> HELP: was what i ment.
[08:15] <papaStrumpf> HELP: Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?
[08:15] <jouni__m> meisam sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:15] <DaSkreech> DShepherd: Do you have java installed?
[08:15] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, what's up with that site now?
[08:15] <Yokalosh> owner: apparently it did it itself.. either that or those evil gremlins have been at it again ;)
[08:15] <kotatsu> Answer: actually, it shouldn't matter if you have access to the gateway or not... if it does snat right you will see the "real" traffic, at least for the destination
[08:15] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, yeah.. I think so
[08:16] <|stukas|> hello! any experts here? does it matter if i install Breezy Badger preview from some time ago or should i download the new ISO ? or can i update the preview to the most recent 5.10 release when installed ?
[08:16] <DaSkreech> Click on the 1 beside unknowns
[08:16] <kotatsu> |stukas|: yup, just do a dist-upgrade once it's installed
[08:16] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, clicked
[08:16] <soundray> xeon_, what have you tried to get it up and running?
[08:16] <Yokalosh> owner: :S
[08:16] <papaStrumpf> HELP: Does anybody know how to get the ubuntu kernel to actually accept the idebus option?
[08:16] <meisam> asks me pass?
[08:16] <tavathlon> I can't reach anything at all. (it's not on my computer, it's on a friend's computer) He want to dual with winxp, which is on hda (I have the same here, and it works fine). When we start the computer, it tries to start grub, but stops and give us "error 17", then nothing more happens. Could we start ubuntu manually without grub?
[08:16] <papaStrumpf> jesus
[08:16] <DShepherd> DaSkreech, oh.. no java for 1.5.. drat
[08:16] <meisam> but i cant enter anything
[08:17] <|stukas|> kotatsu: do i do that from the software/packet manager or from the command line ?
[08:17] <tavathlon> soundray; I can't reach anything at all. (it's not on my computer, it's on a friend's computer) He want to dual with winxp, which is on hda (I have the same here, and it works fine). When we start the computer, it tries to start grub, but stops and give us "error 17", then nothing more happens. Could we start ubuntu manually without grub?
[08:17] <meisam> seems my keys are locked
[08:17] <owner> lol yoka
[08:17] <DaSkreech> Man
[08:17] <DaSkreech> :-(
[08:17] <Yokalosh> i guess i have to remove each file at a time
[08:17] <speedybits> Does anyone know how to find out what application is railing my CPU to 100% (at idle)? Htop and Top don't show anything strange...
[08:17] <Yokalosh> and hope i get the right ones ;)
[08:17] <kotatsu> tavathlon: from the grub manual -- "17 : Cannot mount selected partition
[08:17] <kotatsu>     This error is returned if the partition requested exists, but the filesystem type cannot be recognized by GRUB."
[08:17] <papaStrumpf> you really don't want to help me now, do you?
[08:18] <tavathlon> kotatsu; I know that - but I don't know how to solve it  =P
[08:18] <kotatsu> |stukas|: either one
[08:18] <xeon_> soundray i searched on the internet and found a acerak module, this should do the trick, but i cant install it :s
[08:18] <owner> realplayer bin installer is a pretty poor installer
[08:18] <meisam> kotatsu it asks me a password
[08:18] <|stukas|> ok tnx :)
[08:18] <DaSkreech> I'd need to have someone with firefox and some java working
[08:18] <owner> it doesnt even come with uninstall script
[08:18] <soundray> papaStrumpf, be patient. Ask your question again if necessary.
[08:18] <meisam> but the keyboard is locked
[08:18] <Answer> how the hell do I launch the shorewall webmin?
[08:18] <kotatsu> tavathlon: oh hehe... well, I would try booting from a live CD and reinstalling grub to the MBR
[08:18] <papaStrumpf> soundray: I asked it 5 times already
[08:18] <xeon_> soundray *acerhk
[08:18] <kotatsu> meisam: that's your own password, for sudo
[08:19] <DaSkreech> and 3 minutes of time of course :)
[08:19] <meisam> what is that
[08:19] <meisam> ?
[08:19] <papaStrumpf> anyway, I have java and firefox working
[08:19] <kotatsu> meisam: whatever you set it to be during install
[08:19] <owner> they have rpms for realplayer 10, we could just alien them to deb
[08:19] <meisam> nooo
[08:19] <papaStrumpf> Sun's Java, that is
[08:19] <Yokalosh> owner: yeh... i know this is crazy but what if i added the debian repository and apt got it from there? or would that fuck it up
[08:19] <DaSkreech> papaStrumpf: And 3 minutes?
[08:19] <Yokalosh> wait, i'll just go to the debian ftp and get it :/
[08:19] <soundray> xeon_, I see, you are trying to get the hotkey working...
[08:19] <meisam> i just have set one for my ubuntu
[08:19] <DaSkreech> Yokalosh: language
[08:19] <Yokalosh> sorry dude
[08:20] <owner> yoka probably a bad idea unless you just added that one package
[08:20] <owner> otherwise it screw things up
[08:20] <Yokalosh> yeh
[08:20] <xeon_> soundray yes you ar right ...
[08:20] <papaStrumpf> DaSkreech: what 3 minutes?
[08:20] <redguy> papaStrumpf: maybe you asked the wrong question?
[08:20] <Yokalosh> i'll go to the debian ftps :)
[08:20] <meisam> what should i do kotatsu?
[08:20] <owner> too bad debian web repo is down you could d/l single package
[08:20] <papaStrumpf> redguy: And by that you mean....?
[08:20] <DaSkreech> papaStrumpf: Of time that I could take up?
[08:20] <mwe> Yokalosh: mixing debian repositories into ubuntu can cause big trouble
[08:20] <redguy> papaStrumpf: maybe you should rephrase your question
[08:20] <owner> mwe, especially if you did a dist-upgrade
[08:20] <owner> lol
[08:21] <Bizzeh> ok
[08:21] <Yokalosh> haha oh god
[08:21] <mwe> yeah
[08:21] <papaStrumpf> redguy: ok.... I'll put it like this:
[08:21] <redguy> papaStrumpf: not ask 5 times the same thing
[08:21] <tavathlon> soundray; oki, we'll try that. We tried to reinstall grub via rescue mode with an ordinary install cd, but it didnt work, but we could try again.
[08:21] <Answer> How do I launch shorewall?  Anybody?
[08:21] <Yokalosh> but it would be ok if i just browsed the ftp for the correct .deb right?
[08:21] <Answer> Shorewall webmin??
[08:21] <Bizzeh> im off to try amd64 ubuntu for the last time, if it doesnt install this time, im done
[08:21] <owner> yoka http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/suse/10.1/i386/inst-source-extra/suse/i586/RealPlayer-10.0.6-5.i586.html
[08:21] <papaStrumpf> Does anybody know how to pass the idebus option to the ubuntu kernel?
[08:21] <soundray> xeon_, there shouldn't be any need to install this by hand.
[08:21] <owner> try aliening that
[08:21] <CanadianSnow> SO
[08:21] <mwe> Yokalosh: debs for debian can cause trouble as well
[08:21] <meisam> kotatsu what should i do for pass?
[08:21] <soundray> tavathlon, note the --root-directory option to grub-install
[08:21] <CanadianSnow> How do I know what graphic and video cards I have???
[08:21] <Yokalosh> ah okay
[08:22] <redguy> papaStrumpf: I know
[08:22] <soundray> xeon_, the Ubuntu kernel comes with what's needed.
[08:22] <meisam> the only thing that i know is my ubuntu pass
[08:22] <redguy> papaStrumpf: how to pass a kernel option to the kernel
[08:22] <meisam> thats all
[08:22] <Yokalosh> owner: do you have realplayer installed?
[08:22] <meisam> no more password
[08:22] <mwe> redguy: grub?
[08:22] <papaStrumpf> redguy: ok... please enlighten me :)
[08:22] <speedybits> I'm amazed that X-Chat still runs without any available CPU resources...very impressive
[08:22] <owner> yes
[08:22] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: Don't have access to the computer?
[08:22] <soundray> xeon_, I think you just have to do a 'modprobe acerhk'
[08:22] <xeon_> soundray i'm on version 5.04, the newer version wont install, in the new version (live cd) it worked fine
[08:22] <redguy> papaStrumpf: which bootloader are you using?
[08:23] <papaStrumpf> redguy: grub
[08:23] <kotatsu> meisam: I don't know your password, if it's asking for your password you'll have to enter the one you configured for yourself
[08:23] <Yokalosh> owner: you couldnt possibly tell me which files i want to delete in a pm could you?
[08:23] <redguy> papaStrumpf: if it's grub, then edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[08:23] <owner> ok
[08:23] <tavathlon> soundray; um, not quite sure what that means...  I'm a rather basic user  :S
[08:23] <xeon_> soundray can you explain that?
[08:23] <CanadianSnow> DaSkreech yes...
[08:23] <papaStrumpf> redguy: I already modified the /boot/grub/menu.lst
[08:23] <Yokalosh> cheers
[08:23] <meisam> for god sake it doesnt accept
[08:23] <soundray> xeon_, the key then is probably to sort your upgrade problem.
[08:23] <meisam> i mean the keyboard is locked
[08:23] <papaStrumpf> redguy: but the damn thing won't accept the idebus=xx option
[08:24] <redguy> papaStrumpf: how can you tell?
[08:24] <kotatsu> meisam: what are you trying to do?
[08:24] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu support the ralink rt2500 as standard?
[08:24] <soundray> tavathlon: boot from live CD, mount your root directory from the hard disk to, say, /mnt, then run 'sudo grub-install --root-directory /mnt'
[08:24] <papaStrumpf> redguy: because I can't set udma5 on my hard disk with hdparm
[08:24] <redguy> papaStrumpf: where did you put the idebus=xx option? the kernel line is the right place
[08:24] <DaSkreech> CanadianSnow: Wouldn't the easiest way be to just look?
[08:24] <papaStrumpf> redguy: put it in the kernel line
[08:25] <soundray> xeon_, have you tried upgrading to breezy instead of reinstalling?
[08:25] <DaSkreech> papaStrumpf: Mind if I PM you?
[08:25] <papaStrumpf> please do
[08:25] <skippy> Has anyone successfully compiled Avidemux on Breezy?  I'm getting errors, and could use some help.   http://pastebin.com/511695
[08:25] <owner> yokalosh realplayer installation creates 2 files, realplay and realplay.bin
[08:25] <papaStrumpf> DaSkreech: please do
[08:25] <meisam> its ok...you know waht...i was trying to see waht i was typing i didint enter
[08:25] <redguy> papaStrumpf: now that's your problem
[08:26] <meisam> but next time  i entered
[08:26] <owner> and 9 directories codecs. common, doc, lib, mozilla, plugins, postinst, share
[08:26] <mwe> shouldn't you put kernel options in the # kopts line and run update-grub to keep it for future kernel updates?
[08:26] <Answer> Anybody know how to launch the shorewall webmin ?
[08:26] <redguy> papaStrumpf: that is the real question
[08:26] <meisam> its done
[08:26] <meisam> its done
[08:26] <xeon_> soundray i did all the upgrades (122) how do i upgrade to breezy?
[08:26] <owner> and bin
[08:26] <Yokalosh> thanks
[08:26] <redguy> papaStrumpf: maybe you don't have the proper chipset module loaded and therefore you can't set the dma?
[08:26] <dannym> hi
[08:26] <meisam> allright where i should go for g++ ?
[08:26] <owner> you can find where realplay is like this in terminal, whereis realplay
[08:26] <meisam> i waanna use the g++
[08:27] <just1n> hi again - my laptop refuses to stop loading Windows XP and let me into the BIOS on startup when I press and or hold down ESC. It also doesnt work to press F11 or F12. The file I downloaded "ubuntu-5.10-live-i386 type "burnatonce" .627Gb seems to be assoc with burnatonce - which I have already done: it is loaded on the CD ready to run and try out ubuntu...any more help please:)??
[08:27] <papaStrumpf> redguy: If I can set it up on Fedora.... I MUST be able to set it up on Ubuntu
[08:27] <soundray> xeon_, go through /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurrences of "hoary" with "breezy". Run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[08:27] <Yokalosh> owner: got it :)
[08:27] <meisam> how can i compile my programs?
[08:27] <speedybits> Has anyone else had Breezy slow down to a crawl with no apps running? Anyone?
[08:27] <meisam> where should i run them?
[08:27] <just1n> machine is a Fujitsu Siemens Lifebook BTW 5 Series
[08:27] <meisam> i love fujitsu siemnd
[08:27] <meisam> mine is amilo m7400
[08:28] <dannym> speedybits: not really... but try watching what is happening in "top"
[08:28] <redguy> papaStrumpf: you will propably, did you set it up on FC using the idebus kernel argument?
[08:28] <meisam> where should i type my programs
[08:28] <meisam> ?
[08:28] <papaStrumpf> redguy: no, I use the ide0=ata66 argument
[08:29] <papaStrumpf> redguy: but that won't work on Ubuntu either
[08:29] <speedybits> dannym: Both htop and top both report lower than 23% CPU (only Xchat). But gnome-system-monitor says 100% CPU...
[08:29] <meisam> how can i run my c++ code in ubuntu kotatsu
[08:29] <meisam> ?
[08:29] <soundray> xeon_, note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:29] <just1n> meisam - that's nice, I dont know it. Can anyone suggest a solution to this problem? How did everyone else get started (the subset of people that have it on a laptop designed for Windows)??!
[08:29] <papaStrumpf> redguy: that is... used
[08:30] <dannym> meisam: compile it to an executable, then run the executable
[08:30] <dannym> (actually compile it to an object file, link it to an executable and run that :))
[08:30] <meisam> how?
[08:30] <gborzi> Hello to everyone. I have submitted a package to revu.tauware.de for ubuntu, and one reviewer complained that config.{sub,guess} should not apper in the diff file.
[08:30] <meisam> waht executable?
[08:30] <gborzi> How do I get rid of them ?
[08:30] <dannym> meisam: what is your actual question?
[08:31] <meisam> what is executable...
[08:31] <dannym> meisam: you have a c++ source code and want to use the program it will be when compiled ?
[08:31] <meisam> i have installed the g++ package
[08:31] <dannym> meisam: yeah, then do "g++ -o foobar foobar.cc"
[08:31] <meisam> now i waana code in ubuntu
[08:31] <belkin> how do i enable root login right from the start ?
[08:31] <meisam> help me
[08:31] <meisam> i used to code in win in dev
[08:31] <CanadianSnow> DaSkreech I dont know what they look like
[08:31] <tavathlon> soundray; okay, thanx for the help - I'm still not quite sure what to do, but we'll try some things. I know more now, anyway!  =)   I'll come back later if it doesn't know  ;o)
[08:31] <deefzi> does anyone know where can i see what device does java-applets use when they push out sound? i would like them to use ALSA :-I
[08:32] <mwe> belkin: set root password. it's not adviceable though
[08:32] <meisam> now i wanna sitch to ubuntu
[08:32] <belkin> i just run " sudo passwd root " , will i be able now to login as root right from the login screen ?
[08:32] <meisam> danny i have installed g++ package
[08:32] <owner> justln what about del key
[08:32] <belkin> mwe well did that
[08:32] <meisam> but i dun know where i should write my codes
[08:32] <davidwinter> hi all - is there a way of having program menu's in gnome go to the top menu bar? like how Mac OS X is?
[08:33] <meisam> then how to execute
[08:33] <belkin> mwe will not gdm allow me to log in as rott ?
[08:33] <belkin> *root
[08:33] <owner> belkin or you can use sudo -i
[08:33] <mwe> belkin: you should only use root if you have to. not run as root all the time
[08:33] <meisam> where i shoud see the errors and warnings?
[08:33] <gborzi> I have a question about packaging, someone can help me ?
[08:33] <nalioth> belkin: because ubuntu doesnt use an active root account (for a reason)
[08:33] <mwe> belkin: it's disabled for a reason
[08:33] <nalioth> gborzi: join #ubuntu-motu
[08:33] <belkin> i know man
[08:33] <gborzi> nalioth: thanks.
[08:33] <mwe> belkin: so why do you wanna change it?
[08:33] <dannym> meisam: you write source code in an Editor
[08:33] <belkin> but how will i get write access to my secound hard disk ? they are mounted autom. in  /etc/fstab
[08:33] <belkin>  ?
[08:33] <nippur> anyone know about evolution print manager??
[08:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell gborzi about packaging
[08:34] <meisam> ok
[08:34] <nalioth> belkin: change the permissions in your fstab
[08:34] <meisam> then?
[08:34] <belkin> mwe could you tell me how ? what conf file to i have to edit so i can se root = true
[08:34] <dannym> meisam: then you compile in the shell by telling it "g++ -o foobar foobar.cc" where foobar is  the name of course :)
[08:34] <dannym> meisam: in a terminal, that is
[08:34] <mwe> belkin: run sudo gdmsetup
[08:35] <dannym> meisam: btw: you are probably used to what is called an "Integrated Development Environment" but that's uncommon on UNIX and I can't think of any that don't suck majorly for C++
[08:35] <just1n> owner: I shall try that then. If anyone else has any options or ideas - please say now b4 I disappear for another 10 mins!
[08:35] <owner> its usually del key or f1 to enter bios setup
[08:35] <owner> or f12
[08:35] <owner> depends
[08:35] <mwe> belkin: be aware that it's a bad idea
[08:35] <dannym> meisam: you could try http://www.eclipse.org/ though, be aware that I warned you that it would suck :)
[08:35] <owner> what kind of computer is this justln
[08:35] <just1n> tried f12...think i'm going to try a concert pianist approach on the top row this time...
[08:35] <just1n> maybe not
[08:36] <meisam> allright  what do u mean exactly danny?
[08:36] <owner> try del anyway
[08:36] <soundray> xeon_, how are you getting on?
[08:36] <just1n> del, F1, break..
[08:36] <mdjake> just1n: del or F2 if its an AMD
[08:36] <just1n> ok cya shortly
[08:37] <just1n> not AMD Intel, Fujistu Siemens 5 Series Lifebook...
[08:37] <mdjake> try F2
[08:37] <meisam> u mean this is not a good idea to code in g++
[08:37] <meisam> what should i do?
[08:37] <mon> hi, appearantly i get something in my cups log saying @LOCAL is an unrecognized address. while it should allow my network to the printer. does that say something to anyone?
[08:37] <chrisbudden14> Hello all, i am having trouble with my Creative Zen when it is funtioning as a USB drive.  It has decided not to mount any more
[08:37] <redguy> papaStrumpf: hrm, putting idebus=66 should really work :/
[08:38] <willgott> Is it possible to switch a low-level package such as libc6? I converted my debian 3.1 installation to ubuntu and now I need swap debian's libc6-package with ubuntu's. The packages' contents are probably the same, but the ubuntu-base package is dependent upon ubuntu's libc6-package.
[08:38] <MarcN> Ubuntu/Dapper's rhythmbox seems to have lost the ability to play mp3 files.  Anyone recommend a nice mass mp3->ogg converter?
[08:38] <redguy> MarcN: that conversion will cause quality loss
[08:38] <duckx0r> I'm trying to set up my default e-mail application in Opera. I want to use thunderbird for this. Does anyone know what I would enter into the command line to start a new e-mail in thunderbird?
[08:38] <dannym> meisam: http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/18096/
[08:38] <soundray> redguy, he seems to have given up.
[08:38] <MarcN> redguy: that is fine.
[08:39] <mon> MarcN: it's possible with a scary gstreamer line, google for it. quality does ofcourse go down as mentioned (couldn't hear it though)
[08:39] <redguy> soundray: ah!, he left :/
[08:39] <dannym> meisam: I mean that the IDEs on UNIX are a bit... unflexible...
[08:39] <nalioth> MarcN: dapper is a development distro. it hasnt 'lost' anything
[08:39] <speedybits> Are there any CPU resource apps other than 'htop', 'top' and gnome-system-monitor?
[08:39] <nippur> Hi, i have a pentium 4 630 with EM64 and i install ubuntu for amd64, is this right? it run fine, but i don't if it take the EM64 feactures
[08:39] <dannym> meisam: but they work, so if you are used to them, you can use Eclipse just fine
[08:39] <nalioth> nippur: yes amd64 for 64bit processors
[08:39] <MarcN> nalioth: I know, and accept, the risks of running dapper.
[08:39] <soundray> redguy, people want free support, and they want it NOW...
[08:39] <nippur> nalioth, thanks
[08:40] <nalioth> MarcN: have you enabled mp3 in dapper?
[08:40] <meisam> u know what... i cant really get u by saying IDE ?
[08:40] <CanadianSnow> DaSkreech I dont know what they look like
[08:40] <willgott> Has anyone succeeded switching "live" from debian to ubuntu?
[08:40] <soundray> willgott, yes, been there, done that.
[08:40] <MarcN> nalioth: I already have gstreamer0.8-plugins installed.  Am I missing something else?
[08:40] <simak> Is there a flag to throw to get zip to make linux zips cross platform zips?
[08:40] <dannym> meisam: things like on the screenshot http://freshmeat.net/screenshots/18096/ are called "IDE" in english ("Integrated Development Environment")
[08:41] <meisam> how can i download the elipse?
[08:41] <lanjelot> hi here, i've found out that bash in breezy doesn't behave as it would be. Where can i report such an issue ?
[08:41] <nippur> MarcN, can't play mp3 files?
[08:41] <nalioth> MarcN: not that i know of, perhaps your player is in a state of flux. (file a bug)
[08:41] <redguy> soundray: this is true...
[08:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell meisam about eclipse
[08:41] <xeon_> soundray still isnt working ....
[08:41] <SBrown> :)
[08:41] <soundray> xeon_, have you done the whole breezy upgrade?
[08:42] <soundray> xeon_, I would have thought it takes a bit longer...
[08:42] <pm> is it possible to install macromedia shockwave with wine for firefox?
[08:42] <dannym> meisam: the site is slow as hell today, but let me check...
[08:42] <dannym> meisam: http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/
[08:42] <xeon_> soundray shadox sayed i should change my sources but he didnt know how to do it ....
[08:42] <MarcN> nippur: xmms is fine, just not rhythmbox since an update a while ago.  Forget exactly when.  If there was a simple fix that would be cool.  That is why I wanted a mass mp3->ogg converter.  I'll burn the extra disk space.
[08:42] <meisam> allright
[08:42] <clemslacker> anybody here work professionally in IT?
[08:42] <meisam> thankssssssssssssssssssss
[08:42] <speedybits> Anyone...please let me know if there are alternatives to 'htop', 'top' and gnome-system-monitor?
[08:42] <CarinArr> how would you set up dual monitors with nvidia on linux?
[08:43] <soundray> xeon_, I did tell you... Let's see if it's still in my line buffer
[08:43] <divansantana> clemslacker: Yes!
[08:43] <soundray> xeon_, note https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[08:43] <soundray> xeon_, go through /etc/apt/sources.list and replace all occurrences of "hoary" with "breezy". Run 'sudo apt-get update ; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'.
[08:43] <dannym> meisam: no problem
[08:43] <lanjelot> speedybits, atop
[08:43] <nippur> MarcN, did you get the mass mp3->ogg converter? I was looking for it too
[08:43] <xeon_> soundray I did that, but do i need multiverse for that?
[08:43] <clemslacker> divansantana: i have an assignment for a class in which i have to interview someone in the field, do you mind
[08:44] <MarcN> nippur: nah, need to spend some more time with google.  Simple to hack, but if there is one out there...
[08:44] <divansantana> clemslacker: What type of interview? And how long?
[08:44] <soundray> xeon_, no, for now you can probably stick with the repositories you already have.
[08:44] <dannym> meisam: hmm.. cool... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EclipseIDE
[08:44] <clemslacker> divansantana: just 4 questions
[08:44] <Yokalosh> owner: how do i remove the old realplayer entry from gnome menu?
[08:44] <soundray> xeon_, also consider source-o-matic:
[08:44] <soundray> !easysource
[08:44] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:45] !lilo:*! Small regional server removed, affected users, about 100
[08:45] <dannym> hehe
[08:45] <clemslacker> divansantana: i would need to know where you work and your position
[08:45] <speedybits> lanjelot Thanks for 'atop' suggestion
[08:45] <rodden> has anyone installed the cedega time trial?
[08:45] <owner> use smeg yoka
[08:46] <squid0> hi
[08:46] <CarinArr> how can i find out what package something belongs to?
[08:46] <squid0> where is a list of all the ubuntu package repository mirrors??
[08:46] <willgott> soundray: I you've managed to switch from debian to ubuntu by switching your deb-source list; how did you avoid the libc6-problem? I can't swap my debian libc6 with ubuntu's
[08:46] <dannym> anyone has postfix experience? I'm trying to get it to use maildir format, but it keeps putting mail into /var/mail/dannym (flat file), whereas I'd like it to use $HOME/.maildir/{new,cur,tmp}
[08:46] <alex57> hi all
[08:47] <xeon_> soundray http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7333 i changed, but it didn't worked
[08:47] <meisam> hi
[08:47] <alex57> It's my first time in ubuntu
[08:47] <Moeru> Got a real newbie question. If I run a fileserver with SAMBA, am I going to be able to transfer files from my XP PC to my fileserver?
[08:47] <divansantana> Moeru:yes
[08:47] <alex57> why I cannot find beep-media-player or amule with synoptic?
[08:47] <soundray> willgott, ignorance was bliss -- I didn't know about an issue. Let me just check what libc I have on that system...
[08:47] <Moeru> Cool ^^
[08:47] <willgott> soundray: :)
[08:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell alex57 about repos
[08:48] <Moeru> Hopefully one day I can move both of my PCs to Ubuntu ^^; Damn WoW addiction
[08:48] <divansantana> squid0: U there?
[08:48] <squid0> alex57: you need to add "universe" or "multiverse" repositories to your list of synaptic/apt repositories
[08:48] <squid0> yep
[08:48] <nalioth> alex57: enable universe and multiverse repos and you'll find over 17,000 programs for your use
[08:48] <willgott> soundray: I don't care about libc6 itself, but synaptics doesn't allow me to install ubuntu-base :(
[08:48] <nalioth> alex57: check your  private messages
[08:48] <speedybits> I am seeing <f2> in the CMD column with CPU at 100% in 'atop'. What does this mean?
[08:48] <jouni__m> alex57 you should enable universe
[08:48] <squid0> divansantana: yep
[08:48] <nippur> alex57, www.ubuntux.org
[08:48] <squid0> i am. are you?\
[08:48] <alex57> thanks all
[08:49] <divansantana> squid0: U from SA?JHB??
[08:49] <nippur> alex57, find out about universe repository
[08:49] <squid0> alex57: enjoy
[08:49] <soundray> willgott, does ubuntu-desktop depend on ubuntu-base? Because I just installed the former.
[08:49] <squid0> divansantana: um . yes. you?
[08:49] <vassilis> anybody heard of an on-board sound card (Realtek) recognised as a SB Audigy LS?
[08:49] <Moeru> divsantana has stairs in his house?
[08:49] <soundray> willgott, btw I went from sarge to hoary. Maybe going from etch or sid to breezy is different...
[08:49] <mzinz> Question: I upgraded to firefox1.5 but i still have the old icon... how can i get that changed?
[08:50] <divansantana> squid0: also, just quite surprised! telkomadsl gave it away...
[08:50] <squid0> lol oh
[08:50] <nalioth> soundray: yes, it is far more diffecult
[08:50] <soundray> willgott, there you go ^ Sorry if I got your hopes up in vain.
[08:51] <soundray> xeon_, 1) it's breezy not Breezy...
[08:51] <squid0> divansantana: you from jozie?
[08:51] <soundray> xeon_, put a # at the beginning of the first line (deb cdrom)
[08:51] <soundray> 2) ^
[08:51] <willgott> soundray: possibly
[08:51] <mzinz> Are there any simple java editors for ubuntu?
[08:51] <divansantana> squid0:Yes, U work in IT industry?
[08:51] <jouni__m> soundray no. ubuntu desktop doesn't need ubuntu-base as dependency. you can see http://packages.ubuntu.com
[08:52] <squid0> divansantana: yep
[08:52] <speedybits> When I run 'atop' I can see that <f2> is taking up 100% CPU resources...what is this?
[08:52] <squid0> mzinz: gedit, kate...
[08:52] <mzinz> squid0, kate?
[08:52] <squid0> (java editor == text editor)
[08:52] <Stormx2> mzinz: Editor for KDE/Kubuntu
[08:52] <Stormx2> o.O
[08:52] <squid0> mzinz: unless you mean a java IDE
[08:52] <Stormx2> That was bold
[08:52] <Stormx2> how obscure
[08:52] <mzinz> squid0, oh, gotcha, didn't know that was the name
[08:53] <meisam> danny how should i write the filename over there
[08:53] <meisam> ?
[08:53] <jouni__m> soundray sorry maybe some of packages needs it.
[08:53] <Agiofws> how do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?
[08:53] <soundray> jouni__m, thanks, I don't think it matters now.
[08:53] <willgott> soundray: My system works quite okey, so I think that I'll for the moment. I will install ubuntu from scratch sometimes, but it's hard to do since I'm on a laptop that can only boot from disk or SD-card, and I am not in possesion of the former device. Thanks for your help! :)
[08:53] <squid0> mzinz, ok sure
[08:53] <djm62> willgott: can it do netboot?
[08:54] <owner> im still trying to get a /dev/midi
[08:54] <alex57> but for the kernel image centrino?
[08:54] <soundray> willgott, I found a hint in the install manual that suggests you can boot an install ISO from the HD. Want me to dig it out for you?
[08:54] <willgott> djm62: Yes it can. Good idea!
[08:54] <alex57> where I could find it?
[08:54] <Agiofws> how do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?
[08:54] <willgott> djm62: I will evaluate that option when the big re-install-day comes :)
[08:54] <meisam> dannyyyyyyyyyyyyy
[08:54] <meisam> where r u?
[08:55] <soundray> willgott, ah, djm62 seems to be in the know...
[08:55] <nalioth> meisam: join #ubuntu-offtopic to discuss non help things, please
[08:55] <meisam> what do u mean?
[08:56] <cheloo> ubuntu rocks man
[08:56] <cheloo> :)
[08:56] <cheloo> hi all
[08:56] <alex57> I see linux-image for 686 but for pentium-m or pentium 4 i cannot find it. why?
[08:56] <nalioth> meisam: this is a channel for help and support of ubuntu, for non help chat, join #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:56] <soundray> nalioth, is Ubuntu diverging from Debian quite a lot now?
[08:56] <willgott> soundray: I have a winxp-system installed on the drive too; am I not going to risk it?
[08:56] <nalioth> soundray: it is still based on debian "source code"
[08:56] <crov> What editor support UTF-8 encoding, and what to do to have this formating converted
[08:56] <meisam> waht do u mean by non helpppppp
[08:56] <soundray> willgott, sure, but as they say, no risk no fun...
[08:56] <meisam> here people r helping so
[08:57] <willgott> soundray: was it breezy's install-manual?
[08:57] <nalioth> meisam: yes we are here to help. we are not here to talk about where people live or their pets
[08:57] <soundray> willgott, seriously, you can always back it up (check out partimage!), and the risk isn't that big.
[08:57] <dannym> crov: joe, gedit, scite
[08:57] <soundray> willgott, yes it was.
[08:57] <dannym> crov: use recode or iconv
[08:57] <willgott> soundray: Okey. Thank you very much for your help!
[08:58] <cheloo> what would be best to use , if i want to start a mail server under ubuntu ? qmail ? postfix with courier imap + mysql ? what do you guys suggest ?
[08:58] <meisam> did i ask u where your pet lives?
[08:58] <crov> dannym, do i need to do enythind to get file with iso-8859-2 converted to utf08
[08:58] <steve__> does anyone know how i can check which version of the kernel im running
[08:58] <dannym> cheloo: that's a really really subjective question ;)
[08:58] <meisam> i asked u what u mean by non help
[08:58] <dannym> steve__: uname -r
[08:58] <soundray> nalioth, so the infrastructure (as it were) diverges more and more?
[08:58] <dannym> crov: yes, use recode or iconv
[08:58] <dannym> crov: recode iso8859-2..utf8 foofile
[08:59] <cheloo> dannym  well its just like " what would run better with ubuntu " ? its the fisrt time i run ubuntu and aint got a clue
[08:59] <nalioth> soundray: the binaries are somewhat incompatible at differeing levels
[08:59] <Pegger> does anyone here use linux-ha
[08:59] <steve__> thanks dannym
[08:59] <cheloo> dannym  i would like to use qmail in fedora . and postfix in debian , what would be for ubuntu ? :)) what its the most ...
[09:00] <dannym> meisam: sorry, I just noticed your message right now...
[09:00] <crov> dannym,  from command line(newbie) 'recode iso8859-2..utf8 labels.inc'
[09:00] <soundray> nalioth, okay, thanks. I will refrain from giving Debian2Ubuntu advice based on my youthful experience :)
[09:00] <dannym> meisam: be sure to write "dannym", not "danny",then it will highlight you on my side :)
[09:00] <jouni__m> ubotu tell jouni__m about linux-image
[09:00] <dannym> meisam: but as for your question, which filename do you mean ?
[09:00] <jouni__m> ubotu tell jouni__m about 686
[09:00] <steve__> are the forums down or something?
[09:00] <jouni__m> ubotu tell jouni__m about kernel
[09:01] <Seveas> jouni__m, stop it
[09:01] <dannym> cheloo: it auto-installed postfix for me and I was too lazy so far to switch to qmail :)
[09:01] <nalioth> jouni__m: did you have e question?
[09:01] <OneSeventeen> how do I create a DSN in ubuntu?
[09:01] <cheloo> dannym well only postfix doesnt mean you are running a " mail server "
[09:01] <meisam> ok dannym
[09:01] <dannym> OneSeventeen: as in ISDN DSN ?
[09:02] <dannym> crov: yes
[09:02] <crov> dannym, thnx
[09:02] <OneSeventeen> As in trying to get PHP ODBC to connect to an Oracle Database without the Oracle Instantclient
[09:02] <nnacht> Can anybody helps me with the network of my notebook?
[09:02] <jouni__m> trying to find about linux images see alex57 message
[09:02] <OneSeventeen> so instead of using php's oci_ functions, use php's odbc functions, which require a DSN
[09:02] <sbartleylinux> Is Dapper going to use a Live CD with a tool to install to the HDD from that, or will it use both a install and a Live CD version?
[09:03] <alex57> jouni__m: what?
[09:03] <OneSeventeen> dannym: so I guess I mean Database Source Name
[09:03] <dannym> OneSeventeen: have iodbc or unixodbc installed ?
[09:03] <Agiofws> how do i install "xorgconfig" in ubuntu ?
[09:03] <nnacht> I have the following problem: the network works, but if I try to download some big files, say a cd-image, the network will break.
[09:03] <OneSeventeen> I installed php5-odbc
[09:03] <OneSeventeen> from apt
[09:03] <OneSeventeen> but that's the only odbc thing I've installed
[09:03] <nnacht> I don't have the problem under windows.
[09:03] <jouni__m> alex 57 I was trying to find out why there is not p4 optimized image.
[09:03] <dannym> OneSeventeen: I don't know how php odbc works, unfortunately
[09:03] <martii> pje: yep
[09:04] <martii> pje: still problems with skype?
[09:04] <xiaogil> How to see if a user has been removed from a group (the group admin)
[09:04] <soundray> Agiofws, you could just use 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[09:04] <OneSeventeen> dannym: I have unixodbc, but I can't use iodbc (no gui on this machine)
[09:04] <dannym> OneSeventeen: php odbc seems to be able to use either unixodbc or iodbc, so I'd guess you have to install one
[09:05] <Agiofws> soundray,  no  fell like sticking to  the classical way
[09:05] <dannym> OneSeventeen: as long as php was compiled with unixodbc, that's fine :)
[09:05] <Agiofws> soundray,  no i feel like sticking to  the classical way
[09:05] <nnacht> join #debian
[09:05] <OneSeventeen> dannym: my only problem now is trying to set up a Database Source Name for the ODBC connection....
[09:05] <jouni__m> alex57 but I think 686 is ok or 686-smp if you have hyper threading processor.
[09:06] <OneSeventeen> In Windows (I know... I know) I just go to Data Sources and click "Add System DSN" and choose the driver to use, the name for the DSN, username, and password....
[09:07] <sbartleylinux> Can anyone tell me if Dapper is going to use a Live CD with a tool to install to the HDD from that, or will it have both an install CD and a Live CD version?
[09:07] <dannym> cheloo: actually it does, when running postfix and entering an MX record in your dns, you are by definition running a mail server (MTA) ;)
[09:07] <soundray> Agiofws, there doesn't seem to be an Ubuntu package providing xorgconfig. -- Do you mean classical as in non-GUI, command-line-interactive?
[09:08] <cheloo> dannym  well i want something diff. i want to be able to add users to mysql . i also want to have a webmail interface . :)
[09:08] <Agiofws> soundray,  exactly
[09:08] <ui> !ping
[09:08] <ubotu> pong
[09:09] <soundray> Agiofws, I think there is a way to configure dpkg to use the old interface.
[09:09] <dannym> cheloo: for webmail, I liked omail (with small fixes) (though that's for qmail)
[09:10] <cheloo> dannym  omail  its for qmail ?
[09:10] <dannym> OneSeventeen: try odbcinst, I'm not sure about that though
[09:10] <Seveas> cheloo, look at courier, it does all that :)
[09:10] <dannym> cheloo: yes, webmail and web admin tool for qmail
[09:10] <cheloo> Seveas yeah i know
[09:10] <cheloo> u mean
[09:10] <cheloo> Qmail
[09:10] <cheloo> no o mail
[09:10] <cheloo> not omail
[09:10] <cheloo> Seveas yeah i now but courier have to run with something , like postfix or sendmail , qmail ...
[09:11] <hamidam> helloo people
[09:11] <Seveas> cheloo, no it doesn't
[09:11] <hamidam> i have a questin regarding playin mp3 files on ubuntu... iam VERY new to linux
[09:11] <Seveas> courier does smtp, pop3(s), imap(s), webmail and mailinglist
[09:11] <Seveas> no others needed :)
[09:11] <_jason> hamidam: what's your question?
[09:11] <hamidam> i have a questin regarding playin mp3 files on ubuntu... iam VERY new to linux
[09:11] <b_9> can anyone refer me a website that explains how to use a live cd with a usb key?
[09:12] <dannym> hamidam: what is it?
[09:12] <cheloo> Seveas  can i also run spamassassin   for courier ?
[09:12] <Seveas> b_9, do you use breezy or dapper?
[09:13] <b_9> 5.1
[09:13] <Seveas> b_9, in that case: not :)
[09:13] <b_9> why?
[09:13] <Seveas> well, not for persistance, you can use the usb key though
[09:13] <hamidam> danny and jason... still there?
[09:13] <Seveas> just plug it in
[09:13] <hamidam> first time i use this to
[09:13] <Seveas> hamidam, just ask your question, someone will answer
[09:13] <_jason> hamidam: yes, generally it's easier if you just ask your question
[09:13] <hamidam> i have already asked
[09:14] <mirak_> hamidam: ask your goddam question
[09:14] <_jason> ubotu: tell hamidam about mp3
[09:14] <hamidam> there you see... someone noticed
[09:14] <b_9> in that case why not?
[09:14] <Seveas> mirak_, watch your language
[09:14] <_jason> hamidam: ubotu told you about playing mp3's check your private messages
[09:14] <Seveas> hamidam, no you did not ask any question, you just said you had a question
[09:14] <mirak_> hamidam: ask your ******goddam question
[09:14] <ROBOd> hey guys
[09:15] <mirak_> argh
[09:15] <mirak_> wrong move
[09:15] <ROBOd> what to do about: http://bugs.kde.org./show_bug.cgi?id=118015
[09:15] <yggdrasil> how can i create an smb share that will allow windows machine to have full access ?
[09:15] <Seveas> yggdrasil, system -> admin -> shared folders
[09:15] <mirak_> that's a reccurent problem
[09:15] <b_9> Seveas, why not with 5.1?
[09:15] <hamidam> ook... i did... thanx jason
[09:15] <ROBOd> quanta 3.5 falsely complains about "file modified" after saving (each time)
[09:15] <yggdrasil> seveas i have to do it from cmd
[09:15] <ROBOd> it's a bug in the kernel ... what to do?
[09:16] <yggdrasil> ive got it all running but its not letting me make stuff from windows comps
[09:16] <Seveas> yggdrasil, then edit smb.conf :)
[09:16] <dannym> yggdrasil: writable = yes ?
[09:16] <yggdrasil> yea its =yes
[09:16] <Seveas> ROBOd, wait for it to be solved...
[09:16] <newuser> i have a broadcom wireless card and everything went smooth untilli got this message, Error for wireless request "Set ESSID" (8B1A)
[09:16] <ROBOd> Seveas: :( ...
[09:17] <ROBOd> what to do until then? ..
[09:17] <newuser> wlan0 shows in sys>admin>networking
[09:17] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  you can connect and read files but not write files?
[09:17] <dannym> yggdrasil: security = user ?
[09:17] <ROBOd> where could i get an updated kernel?
[09:18] <yggdrasil> jbzz yes
[09:18] <yggdrasil> should i pastebin my conf
[09:18] <eugman> is there any reason I should have 3 or more kernel images at any one time?
[09:18] <yggdrasil> i guese huh
[09:18] <Seveas> b_9, the persistance feature is not even a week old...
[09:18] <dannym> yggdrasil: did smbpasswd and added a real user ?
[09:18] <dannym> yggdrasil: did create a unix user for the windows user that connects?
[09:18] <jouni__m> ROBOd use synaptic and search for linux-image
[09:19] <yggdrasil> it just connected without asking for a user
[09:19] <Seveas> eugman, not really
[09:19] <eugman> So should I get rid of the oldest one?
[09:19] <ROBOd> jouni__m: i got the latest updates
[09:19] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  Is your setting    security = uesr?
[09:20] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  security = user     ?
[09:20] <yggdrasil> gonan check it right now
[09:20] <yggdrasil> security = user
[09:21] <dannym> yggdrasil: did you do smbpasswd -a and added a real user ?
[09:21] <yggdrasil> uh no
[09:21] <dannym> yggdrasil: not good ;)
[09:21] <yggdrasil> oh
[09:21] <yggdrasil> yea its gotten kind of messy at this point.
[09:21] <yggdrasil> how is it connecting in i wonder ?public=yes ?
[09:22] <dannym> yggdrasil: "guest ok" is probably "yes", which means, whenever anything at all goes wrong (like, server burning), it will just degrade client to guest-only and carry on
[09:22] <dannym> yggdrasil: turn it off ;)
[09:22] <yggdrasil> yes i will rignt now
[09:23] <j3di> anyone understand netatlak?
[09:23] <j3di> netatalk
[09:23] <djjason> How can I assign a name to my external drive so that it mounts as somename instead of "60GB Volume"
[09:23] <patcom> hello.. I'm running APACHE2 on ubuntu and some how my php sendmail doesn t work ???
[09:24] <patcom> I installed postfix
[09:24] <patcom> but maybe it is not good configured
[09:24] <patcom> some one have an idear
[09:24] <patcom> ?
[09:24] <yggdrasil> dannya guest ok is not on but i have map to guest = bad user ??
[09:24] <Seveas> patcom, does the attempt to send the mail appear in your postfix log?
[09:24] <dannym> patcom: try calling sendmail manually to see what it has to say
[09:24] <blekos> hello again
[09:25] <dannym> patcom: run sendmail -q to actually get it to send stuff out
[09:25] <blekos> could someone tell me how i can make a long command small? e.g instead of xxxxxxxxx 2 type a1
[09:25] <dannym> patcom: check /var/log/mail.log for errors
[09:26] <dannym> patcom: and, beware of procmail :)
[09:26] <meisam> when im writting the name of file wants to be compiled, is that case sensitive
[09:26] <meisam> ?
[09:26] <dannym> yggdrasil: hmmm
[09:26] <meisam> ing++
[09:26] <dannym> yggdrasil: put "map to guest = Never" instead
[09:26] <yggdrasil> ok
[09:27] <dannym> meisam: yes, anything in unix is case sensitive because it was written when cpu power was about zero and nobody has bothered fixing it since :)
[09:27] <secureboot> is there work going into replacing synaptic?  and if so, what's the name of the replacement?
[09:27] <dannym> meisam: (some users even have be conditioned to like case sensitiveness by now - weird)
[09:28] <czr> dannym, fixing it is not simple btw
[09:28] <VR^> hi all, what can i use to convert flac to mp3 ?
[09:28] <dannym> czr: I know because I tried
[09:28] <dannym> czr: ;)
[09:28] <czr> dannym, and putting locale-based policies into kernel is not a good idea :-)
[09:28] <meisam> the name is Unsaved Document 1 what is the command
[09:28] <meisam> ?
[09:28] <yggdrasil> dannym still no go
[09:28] <czr> dannym, I feel your pain :-)
[09:28] <Seveas> meisam, read that tutorial
[09:28] <thisplayer> are the forums down?
[09:28] <Seveas> this channel is for Ubuntu support, not beginner programming help
[09:29] <meisam> sorry seveas
[09:29] <meisam> allright
[09:29] <meisam> Damned me...!
[09:29] <meisam> bye
[09:30] <yggdrasil> its still connecting without asking for a pass
[09:30] <dannym> yggdrasil: is the client windows?
[09:30] <yggdrasil> yar
[09:30] <yggdrasil> tis
[09:30] <dannym> yggdrasil: that's normal, it just tells the password to everyone without asking the user for permission
[09:31] <majd> hey
[09:31] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> well its a username that isnt in the list
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: (it only asks you when the server won't accept it then)
[09:31] <yggdrasil> you know it should ask
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: what windows version=?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> xp
[09:31] <dannym> home or pro ?
[09:31] <yggdrasil> hehe uh niether
[09:31] <yggdrasil> probobly pro
[09:31] <yggdrasil> its some hacked up version
[09:31] <dannym> yggdrasil: hmm, it should ask then...
[09:31] <yggdrasil> xp lite
[09:32] <yggdrasil> yea
[09:32] <yggdrasil> hmmm
[09:32] <dannym> yggdrasil: you could try re-logging in on the client
[09:32] <dannym> yggdrasil: (the whole session, not just the network thing)
[09:32] <yggdrasil> yea
[09:32] <dannym> (I have no idea what that's called on windows )
[09:32] <yggdrasil> let me see
[09:32] <yggdrasil> logo ff i think
[09:33] <jbzz> yggdrasil:  It should try to connect with the current user and password.  If it fails it should prompt the user for a different combination.
[09:33] <cheloo> why does mysql depends on postfix ?
[09:33] <cheloo> i run sudo apt-get install mysql-client mysql-server
[09:33] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:33] <yggdrasil> dannym i got an old mac clone . its a starmax and i got linux up and runnin and im planning on making it just a network storage thing  so thats what im doing now
[09:33] <yggdrasil> brb
[09:33] <dannym> cheloo: probably a bug, or at least almost :)
[09:33] <cheloo> and The following extra packages will be installed:
[09:33] <cheloo>   mailx postfix
[09:33] <majd> amule sucks butt
[09:33] <majd> it's so slow
[09:33] <dannym> cheloo: (I'd report it)
[09:33] <thisplayer> is anybody else able to connect to the ubuntuforums..?
[09:33] <crimsun> cheloo: it generates mail, so it needs a mail delivery agent
[09:34] <slewis> are dapper and drake different ubuntu products or are they upgrades like osx tiger and jaguar
[09:34] <dannym> yggdrasil: I see :) ok :)
[09:34] <cheloo> crimsun whos  generates mail ? mysql ?
[09:34] <cheloo> crimsun its the fisr time i heard this man :))
[09:34] <crimsun> !dapper
[09:34] <ubotu> somebody said dapper was The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[09:34] <yggdrasil> im gonna pastebing my conf i think theres somethign elese here
[09:34] <dannym> crimsun: yeah, but why does it need a specific mail delivery agent ;)
[09:35] <cheloo> crimsun if i want to install mysql then it should only install mysql server not postfix
[09:35] <cheloo> dannym so what is it ?
[09:35] <yggdrasil> dannym loggin off and back on did it
[09:35] <yggdrasil> thanks
[09:35] <dannym> cheloo: bug
[09:35] <dannym> yggdrasil: nice :)
[09:35] <cheloo> such a shit
[09:35] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:35] <yggdrasil> wierd though
[09:36] <slewis> iss dapper going to be the successor to breezer?
[09:36] <dannym> cheloo: maybe it shuts up when it finds any other mail delivery agent, try installing another first ?
[09:37] <yggdrasil> pretty awesome though i got that old mac junk firing on all 8 cylinders .... ssh web ftp and smb servers on it... using fluxbox for desktop.
[09:37] <crimsun> dannym: it doesn't.
[09:37] <crimsun> dannym: the only reason it pulls in postfix is because mailx, a dependency of mysql-server-5.0, lists postfix /first/ in the Depends alternates
[09:38] <yggdrasil> thanks guys  u to jbzz
[09:38] <crimsun> dannym: so yes, having another package that Provides mail-transport-agent meets that requirement
[09:38] <yggdrasil> whats a cmd in terminal to see how much space i have ?
[09:38] <_jason> yggdrasil: df
[09:38] <dannym> crimsun: ok :)
[09:38] <dannym> yggdrasil: df
[09:38] <yggdrasil> thanks i was doing du
[09:38] <yggdrasil> haha
[09:39] <yggdrasil> whatever the hell that was
[09:39] <meisam> dannym where should i go for beginner questions in ubuntu, not to make the  guys laugh at me, coz they think its the first time im even using the computer...
[09:39] <lotusleaf> how long have the forums been down today? baby jesus cries!
[09:39] <_jason> yggdrasil: man du
[09:39] <dannym> yggdrasil: how much space is used per folder :)
[09:39] <slewis> does an application like windows terminal services exist for ubuntu?
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: X ?
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: vnc ?
[09:39] <yggdrasil> hahh
[09:39] <yggdrasil> i love it
[09:39] <_jason> yggdrasil: or even faster 'whatis du'
[09:39] <yggdrasil> i loe it
[09:39] <dannym> slewis: www.ltsp.org ?
[09:39] <slewis> that is not cluncky and laggy
[09:40] <dannym> slewis: no idea then ;)
[09:40] <slewis> terminal services is very smooth, feels like you are working locally
[09:40] <jbzz> du
[09:40] <slewis> anything like in the linux world?
[09:40] <yggdrasil> so you could do like a grep du > 30000 ? to see any folder over 30 meg ?
[09:40] <yggdrasil> or how would that work
[09:41] <dannym> meisam: I don't know...
[09:41] <ui> i changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?
[09:41] <dannym> meisam: as for programming stuff, that is mostly not distribution specific so I'd say maybe #unix, #c, #linux, ?
[09:42] <meisam> here really people get mad when someone asks beginner questions here...
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: back in the old days I read Fidonet a lot ...
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: (now Usenet)
[09:42] <dannym> meisam: but that was 12 years ago :)
[09:42] <majd> what's the best p2p program to use?
[09:42] <meisam> how old r u? all right...thankssssss
[09:43] <meisam> atleast u r answreing back
[09:43] <DShepherd> majd, limewire is nice.. I dont know if its the best
[09:43] <meisam> thanks dannym
[09:43] <majd> DShepherd, i installed amule, but it's horrible
[09:43] <DShepherd> majd, ok
[09:43] <majd> limewire isn't available through synaptic :(
[09:44] <dannym> meisam: 24 :)
[09:44] <dannym> meisam: no problem
[09:44] <ui> i changed to kde but i still got the  gnome programs how do i delete them?
[09:44] <ui> :(
[09:44] <DShepherd> majd, check out the site
[09:45] <slewis> ltsp is a distribution. i gues ubuntu doesn't have a terminal services?
[09:45] <majd> i downloaded the version for "other" OS's....
[09:45] <gsnedders> how easy is it to get ubuntu running in 64-bit SMP on PPC?
[09:46] <dannym> ui: probably needs some heavy tinkering with scripts
[09:46] <yggdrasil> ui i would just go to synaptic and do a search for gnome
[09:46] <yggdrasil> and then uncheck the ones you dont want installed ones will be green.
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> What's the command for generating a list of all files in a directory recursively?
[09:47] <dannym> tonyyarusso: find
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Do I need to pass any options to it?
[09:48] <dannym> tonyyarusso: depends, usually you get all files and directories
[09:48] <dannym> tonyyarusso: just the files, find -type f
[09:49] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Okay.
[09:49] <bipolar> Has anyone ever thought of making ubuntu's X server fall back to the vesa frame buffer driver if anything goes wrong?
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> dannym: All right, now expanding to that to a potential use, I have a bunch of music, and I want to be able to play it with mplayer, from command line.
[09:50] <majd> DShepherd, what java package do i need to run limewire?
[09:50] <majd> i downloaded the javacc package but it didn't do it
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Can I do something like mplayer -shuffle -playlist < find /music ?
[09:50] <kosmo> must go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> You just have to wonder about computers that "must go today"...Can you say STOLEN?
[09:52] <DShepherd> majd, you can get java from restricted formts
[09:52] <DShepherd> formats.
[09:52] <DShepherd> ubotu tell majd about restrictedformats
[09:52] <dannym> tonyyarusso: try find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist /dev/stdin
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> dannym: What's /dev/stdin?
[09:53] <dannym> tonyyarusso: special file that is the same as the standard input of the process that opens it
[09:53] <dannym> tonyyarusso: weird workaround for apps that don't support "-" (maybe mplayer does though)
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: i.e. find /music -type f |mplayer -shuffle -playlist -
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Error while parsing playlist; empty playlist.
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: ok, then you need a tempfile :)
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> dannym: So I just need to do the two separately.
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: probably a bug in mplayer though (or at least not cute)
[09:54] <dannym> tonyyarusso: yeah
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> dannym: All right, I can do that.
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> Hey, I'm getting tired of Azureus of being such a resource hog. What are other good all-in-one torrent clients like it?
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> I'm trying KTorrent now...
[09:56] <yggdrasil> dannym you nkow whats strange now that i browse from my windows computer none of the other windows computers are showing up.... !!!
[09:56] <ReverendNathan> ...but this download isn't starting!
[09:56] <dukebody> i can't play midi sound files i followed ubuntu guides but i hear no sound what could it be?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Never mind.  It does work.  I had a typo.
[09:56] <Sh4d0x> hi all
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Okay, can you explain what the - or /dev/stdin is doing, so I understand how to use it for the future?
[09:57] <ReverendNathan> I think the program (Timidi?) runs through terminal
[09:57] <dukebody> yes RemoteViewer i started it
[09:58] <ReverendNathan> I got Windows programs that use midi to work through wine, but never figured that out for linux.
[09:58] <majd> DShepherd, it says it can't find all the packages it said to get in the wiki :(
[09:58] <yggdrasil> ok anyway bbl
[09:58] <dukebody> me too ReverendNathan
[09:58] <dukebody> i needed to use a program like guitar pro
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> I used TabIt through wine, and it works pretty damn solid.
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> I don't know if you've used Tabit, but you can check out the trial
[09:59] <ReverendNathan> http://www.tabit.net/
[09:59] <kosmo> must go today 2 alienware laptops price 550 each including shippin case and wireless router, or 1 alienware desktop at 550 including shipping, monitor, speakers, keyboard and mouse and of course the tower. message me on aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 if interested and want to buy
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> dannym: And why wouldn't my < work for that?  (Don't really understand those yet either.)
[09:59] <dannym> tonyyarusso: it is a placeholder where a filename is expected when you dont want to supply one
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "<" reads from a file
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: ">" writes to a file
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> dannym: And that makes it use the file from the previous part before the pipe?
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "|" connects two programs
[10:00] <dannym> tonyyarusso: programs that expect a filename can be given "-" to make it take the data from the other program anyways
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> dannym: So I probably could have flipped it around, and have it do the same thing.  i.e., use the - with <.
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: no, "<" and ">" are for writing/reading files
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: "|" is for inter process communication
[10:01] <La_PaRCa> hey guys. How can I connect to a wireless network thats not broadcasting its ssid?
[10:01] <dannym> tonyyarusso: so if you want them to talk to each other, use "|" ;)
[10:01] <millicent> Can anyone help me mount my cd drive.
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Got it.
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> dannym: Going on five months, and still amused at how much can be done on command line.
[10:03] <millicent> Hello?
[10:03] <millicent> Sorry this is my first time using Xchat.
[10:03] <majd> hey guys
[10:03] <majd> i get this error:
[10:03] <majd> E: Couldn't find package sun-j2re1.5
[10:03] <dannym> millicent: hi... try mount /media/cdrom
[10:04] <majd> whenever itry to install j2re
[10:04] <majd> why is it/
[10:04] <majd> i have multiverse repos enabled
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> Hi millicent.
[10:04] <pkern> majd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormat
[10:04] <millicent> mount: special device /dev/hdd does not exist
[10:04] <pkern> majd: It is not packaged
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> majd: 1.5 is only available packaged from PLF.
[10:05] <majd> should i try 1.4?
[10:05] <pkern> majd: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-68565ae07a003332e82c9f23706638777396c249 that is.
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> majd: Works fine for most.
[10:05] <pkern> majd: Well, it is reasonably easy to get a 1.5 package following the step-by-step instructions.
[10:05] <majd> Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:05] <majd> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[10:05] <majd> is only available from another source
[10:05] <majd> E: Package j2re1.4 has no installation candidate
[10:05] <majd> oops
[10:05] <pkern> majd: Depends on what you do. Java 5 has many new features, but you'll lose backwards compatibility to 1.4 ;)
[10:05] <majd> sorry for 4 lines, thought it would paste in 2
[10:05] <majd> i just want to run limewire
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> millicent: hdd?  With the way things are named that would be your fourth hard disk.  Is that what you mean?  If not, try hda.
[10:06] <pkern> majd: Are you on amd64?
[10:06] <majd> no i'm on pentium 4
[10:06] <Stormx2> majd: Got universe and multiverse enabled?
[10:06] <majd> Stormx2, yeah, i believe so
[10:06] <millicent> I do believe there HDD and HDC
[10:07] <Stormx2> majd: Check ;-)
[10:07] <pkern> majd: Well, it's in multiverse then. Try apt-cache policy j2re1.4 -- If it isn't listed, the repositories are not enabled.
[10:07] <majd> i got to Settings > Repositeries
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> millicent: On what basis do you believe that?
[10:07] <pkern> majd: And you have to run apt-get update after you change the repositories.
[10:07] <decaf> majd: you can use "java-package". that package includes a script called "make-jpkg". use it to make packages from sun's jre.bin file
[10:07] <infoB> hi all! I have problem with configuring serial mouse to work with Gnome... What to do???
[10:07] <NaTeek> i'm looking for a synctool to sync my mobil and kontakt from kde. do you know one?
[10:07] <majd> apt-cache policy j2re1.4
[10:07] <Sh4d0x> eurhm does someone know a ubuntu program to burn images on cd  or dvd's?
[10:07] <majd> oops
[10:08] <majd> j2re1.4:
[10:08] <majd>   Installed: (none)
[10:08] <majd>   Candidate: (none)
[10:08] <majd>   Version table:
[10:08] <jbzz> millicent:  you are trying toi mount your cdrom ... correct?
[10:08] <Stormx2> majd: check /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:08] <millicent> Disk Manager says they are
[10:08] <millicent> Yes I am.
[10:08] <wundbread> anyone know how to configure wpa_supplicant?  I get an error when running it on my ipw2200
[10:08] <majd> Stormx2, and look under?
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> jbzz, millicent: Okay, missed that.
[10:09] <majd> bash: etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory
[10:09] <jariep1_> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[10:09] <millicent> Disk Manager says they are
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> millicent: Mine's /dev/cdrom0
[10:09] <jbzz>  did you try the command       mount  /media/cdrom   as mentioned above?
[10:09] <millicent> Disk manager says my hardrive is hda and then my DVD burner is HDC and combo drive is HDD
[10:10] <jariep1_> can anybody reach ubuntuforums.org?
[10:10] <mwe> jariep1_: I can't connect at least
[10:10] <jariep1_> ok
[10:10] <Stormx2> jariep1_: seems so.
[10:10] <Knelix2> Are the Ubuntu forums down?
[10:10] <Stormx2> majd: no, /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> millicent: But if you look in /dev, those don't exist?
[10:10] <millicent> hang on lemmie check
[10:10] <jariep1_> Knelix2 it seems so
[10:11] <majd> majd@ubuntu:~$ sudo /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:11] <majd> sudo: /etc/apt/sources.list: command not found
[10:11] <Knelix2> Hmm. Darn. I wanted to check how to modift resolution/refresh rates again.
[10:11] <majd> w/o sudo i get premission denied
[10:11] <millicent> what am I looking for in the /dev?
[10:11] <jariep1_> i got a page load but it was really slow
[10:11] <mwe> majd: it's not a command
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> majd: You need to give it an editor to use.
[10:11] <jariep1_> then afterward it wouldn't work
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> majd: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> millicent: The device names it claims them to be.
[10:12] <Knelix2> Where is that X config file located?
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> Knelix2: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:12] <mikecrowe> Hi folks, my Breezy has some of it's X fonts screwed up.  All my GTK programs are looking weird.  Where's a good place to start to reinstall or reconfigure the fonts I have?  I've checked my xorg.conf and the font paths are right.
[10:13] <Stormx2> majd: You need an app to open it with. use gedit
[10:13] <Knelix2> tonyyarusso, thanks.
[10:13] <Yokalosh> what is the username and password that windows asks for when i try to access my network shares?
[10:13] <majd> Stormx2, ok, i opened it, now what?
[10:13] <jariep1_> anybody setup an email server with postfix and dyndns?
[10:13] <majd> i'm confused
[10:13] <Stormx2> !easysource
[10:13] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:13] <Stormx2> ^ use that
[10:13] <mwe> mikecrowe: gtk1 or gtk2?
[10:13] <jbzz> millicent:  can you try      ls  /hdc1    and see if you get a list of filenames?
[10:14] <mikecrowe> Specifically gtk1, but I haven't truly checked gtk2
[10:14] <millicent> im not sure... im kinda new at this, there are hda hda1 hda2 hda3 hda5
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> majd: The command you need to tell it is the text editor of your choice.  Could be gedit, nano, whatever.  Put that between sudo and the filepath.
[10:14] <jbzz> millicent:   that is      h d c   and then a figure 1 (one)
[10:14] <majd> yeah i did
[10:14] <majd> and i opened it
[10:14] <majd> but i don't know what to do in it :(
[10:14] <millicent> says unknow file or directory
[10:14] <mwe> mikecrowe: install gtk-theme-switch and run the 'switch' program and choose a font
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> millicent: The numbered parts of hda are partitions on that disk.
[10:14] <Stormx2> majd: Use easysource
[10:15] <Yokalosh> anyone? why does windows ask for a password to access my ubuntu network shares?
[10:15] <Stormx2> majd: That'll generate the text you need to put in there
[10:15] <millicent> ok
[10:15] <mwe> mikecrowe: you can't use ttf fonts though
[10:15] <mikecrowe> mwe: I did switch themes.  that doesn't change the fonts?
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> majd: See !sources and !easysource for instructions for that.
[10:15] <mwe> mikecrowe: click the + button to get to the fonts
[10:15] <Stormx2> !easysource
[10:15] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> majd: As well as !multisource
[10:15] <Stormx2> ^ That be what you need
[10:15] <Bizzeh> hey, i got ubuntu amd64 installed, but, it refuses to let me bring up X
[10:15] <jbzz> millicent:   those are partitions on your first hard drive     [hard drive]    [a]     [partition#] 
[10:15] <Marlun> Whats the vi command for starting on a new document?
[10:16] <jcuse> I try to Edit my xorg.conf file and it says Im now the owner so I cant edit it, how do I login as the owner?
[10:16] <millicent> Ok I got that.
[10:16] <mwe> mikecrowe: with gtk1 you can only limit the pain. it looks ugly as it can't use ttf fonts
[10:16] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: It hasn't go an entry for multisource :P
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: Open it with sudo.
[10:16] <jbzz> millicent:   what type of disk do you have in yor cdrom drive?  Music?
[10:16] <jcuse> How?
[10:16] <millicent> Blank
[10:16] <timfrost> Marlun, if a file doesn't exist, it will be created by vi filename
[10:16] <Bizzeh> i get (EE) No devices detected. fatal error: no screens found
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Whoops.  That would be multiverse, of course.  Really, I haven't completely lost it...yet.  ;)
[10:17] <Bizzeh> is there any text based web client that comes with default ubuntu?
[10:17] <mwe> Bizzeh: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg maybe
[10:17] <jbzz> millicent:   are you trying to burn a cdrom?
[10:17] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: how do I open it with sudo?
[10:17] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> Bizzeh: I don't know, but many are in the Ubuntu repos.
[10:18] <Marlun> timfrost: but I mean if I'm allready in vi.
[10:18] <Ocean^> okay when booting and its going through the list of things its setting up like Alsa, LVM, PCMCIA  for some reason my Network Fails...   How would I go about fixing this ?
[10:18] <Bizzeh> my gfx card is at PCI:5:0:0 (pci-e), is that any sort of problem?
[10:19] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: the document is blank when i open it sudo
[10:19] <millicent_> Sorry the power went out. :(
[10:19] <millicent_> Ok its a blank disk I have in my cd drive
[10:19] <jbzz> millicent:   hang tough
[10:19] <mikecrowe> mwe:  That fixed GTK.  Is there a similar application for QT?
[10:19] <Ocean^> Bizzeh, for text base webclient try "lynx"
[10:19] <b_9> Will someone point me to a link that will show me how to use ssh tunnelling to use my home computer web access to surf the web from work?
[10:19] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: tried, its not there
[10:19] <Ocean^> Bizzeh, apt-get install lynx
[10:19] <Bizzeh> its just took me a hour to get on irc cos the network wont route properly
[10:20] <timfrost> Marlun, :e newfile
[10:20] <millicent_> and its just now that my CD drives havent worked, they have been working fine up untill a day or so now.
[10:20] <Bizzeh> because its refusing to give me my usual ip
[10:20] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Hmm. Maybe I should make a generator for the grub list ;-) For ubuntu stuff ;-)
[10:20] <Marlun> timfrost: thanks
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: You sure you don't have a typo in the filepath?  (And are using Xorg, not XFree86?)
[10:20] <jcuse> I got it now
[10:20] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: are you useing dhcp?  if so try useing static
[10:20] <jcuse> tonyyarusso: i got it thanks
[10:21] <visit0r> how come  libasound2 is still at version 1.0.9 for i386? anyone knows the reason for this?
[10:21] <visit0r> amd64 and powerpc already have 1.0.10...
[10:21] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: For the grub list?  what do you mean?
[10:21] <MarcN> b_9: http://www.google.com/search?q=ssh+tunnel+corporate+pierce+firewalls
[10:21] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Nevermind actually. There are apps for that
[10:21] <jbzz> millicent:  can you do anything with the drive?   listen to music, or anything at all?
[10:22] <Bizzeh> just tried reconfiguring X, still doesnt work
[10:22] <quad_> HELP: How do I view files with the nautilus file explorer, instead of the default one, as standard??
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  whats the problem ?
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Like grub itself, no?
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  And what video card do you have ?
[10:22] <wundbread> wpa_supplicant on ipw2200 anyone?
[10:22] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: i cant remember how to set gateway and dns in linux
[10:22] <Bizzeh> pci-e radeon x700
[10:22] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Wait, not that.
[10:22] <Ocean^> Bizzeh:  okay dns is /etc/resolv.conf
[10:22] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: i meant fstab
[10:23] <Ocean^> russ@Aqualung:~$ cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:23] <Ocean^> nameserver 206.47.244.50
[10:23] <Ocean^> nameserver 206.47.244.106
[10:23] <Ocean^> thats what mine looks like
[10:23] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: refuses to let me write to it
[10:23] <Bizzeh> even under sudo
[10:23] <Stormx2> letz h4x t3h IPz
[10:23] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: is ur hard drive mounted read-only ?
[10:23] <Stormx2> Bizzeh: What filesystem?
[10:23] <Bizzeh> sudo echo nameserver 192.168.1.1 /etc/resolv.conf doesnt work
[10:24] <Bizzeh> default ubuntu amd64 install
[10:24] <b_9> thanks MarcN
[10:24] <Bizzeh> so, ext3, and no
[10:24] <mwe> blekos: wrong command
[10:24] <Aeeee> lo all
[10:24] <mwe> Bizzeh: wrong command
[10:24] <tonyyarusso> Stormx2: Ah, makes much more sense now.  What is the name of the thing for that anyway?
[10:24] <Ocean^> bizzeh that wotn work
[10:24] <Stormx2> tonyyarusso: Can't remember o.O
[10:25] <Bizzeh> how do i make ubuntu remember my wireless settings too
[10:25] <Stormx2> fstab is probably "Filesystem Table"
[10:25] <Bizzeh> like my essid and enc key
[10:25] <Stormx2> !wireless
[10:25] <ubotu> well, wireless is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[10:25] <Aeeee> has anyone had any luck getting latest ati proprietry fglrx driver working in breezy?
[10:25] <Stormx2> ;-)
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: also 192.168.1.1 is probably not your nameserver
[10:25] <Ocean^> echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" > /etc/resolv.conf
[10:25] <Bizzeh> mwe: yes it is
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: it's your gateway
[10:25] <Bizzeh> my router is my nameserver too
[10:25] <mwe> Bizzeh: different thing
[10:25] <Bizzeh> it forwards dns for me
[10:25] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Just installed it yesterday.  Increased my framerate tenfold.
[10:26] <mwe> Bizzeh: well in that case just enter the correct command
[10:26] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: echo "nameserver 192.168.1.1" > /tmp/resolv.conf   try that...
[10:26] <meisam> when i download sth from internet where can i see my download?
[10:26] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: that works fine
[10:26] <Ocean^> okay,  ur resolvf.conf should be fine
[10:26] <mwe> Bizzeh: echo nameserver 192.168.1.1| sudo tee /etc/resolv.conf
[10:26] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: The one from the repos, not ati's site.
[10:27] <Bizzeh> how do i set my gateway then?
[10:27] <Ocean^> now try route -add default gw 192.168.1.1
[10:27] <Aeeee> tonyyarusso, mine installs ok, then doesnt enable hardware acceration
[10:27] <mwe> Bizzeh: or just sudo nano /etc/resolv.conf then add it by hand
[10:27] <leku-> hi
[10:27] <taoscotch> i changed cdrom drives on my desktop and now the computer boots but it odesn't recognize the hard drive or the cdrom drive
[10:27] <Knelix> Ok, so I screwed up my xorg.config. Now how can I edit it in the terminal so I can get X back up?
[10:27] <Aeeee> i may need to downgrade then
[10:28] <Bizzeh> SIOCADDRT: File Exits << i get that after the add
[10:28] <mwe> Knelix: you made a backup first, of course, right?
[10:28] <leku-> i just installed kubuntu and everything is up and running fine, but I see Xorg hogging a lot of CPU, as well as firefox
[10:28] <leku-> my load average when I'm using firefox goes up to 1.99
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Did you get through all of the steps of installation as outlined on the wiki, or just installing the package?
[10:28] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: hmm let me look up the command hold on.
[10:28] <Knelix> mwe: I did somewhere. But, I know the problem. I just need to edit it.
[10:29] <mwe> Knelix: sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> What scale are load averages on anyway?
[10:29] <Knelix> mwe: Thanks. :-)
[10:29] <leku-> 1-100
[10:29] <Aeeee> followed wiki to create packages
[10:29] <leku-> i dunno
[10:29] <Ocean^> route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[10:29] <Ocean^> try that
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> leku-: Ah.
[10:29] <leku-> 0-100
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: Create packages?
[10:29] <Aeeee> it can create .debs
[10:29] <leku-> sucks that I just dropped gentoo for this
[10:29] <F43RY> hi all
[10:30] <taoscotch> anybody here know about hardware problems related to changing cdroms
[10:30] <leku-> my gentoo laptop was lightspeed..granted firefox sucked
[10:30] <Bizzeh> firefox sucks in general
[10:30] <Bizzeh> not just on gentoo
[10:30] <leku-> just doesn't make sense to me why I can't have a fast machine anymore
[10:30] <leku-> i know
[10:30] <leku-> it leaks memory on every box I put it on
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: You must have gotten the ones from the ATI site then, I assume?
[10:30] <leku-> too bad I don't have any choice but ot use it though
[10:30] <Aeeee> tonyyarusso, yes
[10:30] <leku-> god
[10:30] <leku-> maybe it's all this KDE crap I'm running
[10:31] <leku-> I guess before I just had fluxbox
[10:31] <Bizzeh> leku-: i was thinkin gentoo, since i got a amd64 x2 4200, i just still cant be bothered with all the compiling, its not so much the time it takes, its that it has to take that time
[10:31] <Marlun> I think I clicked CTRL+C while in vi, and it seemed to close down, but now when I try to open the file in vi again it says it's allready open, how can I get back to it?
[10:31] <taoscotch> need help bad with old AST Advantage 625 desktop
[10:31] <leku-> true true.. once it is done though
[10:31] <bobbyd> hi
[10:31] <ryanakca> hmmm... is it just me or are the ubuntuforums down?
[10:31] <leku-> i can't evne say for sure if i was faster because of gentoo or not
[10:31] <mwe> it's down
[10:31] <Ocean^> Bizzeh: route add default gw 192.168.1.1
[10:31] <Ocean^> try that
[10:31] <leku-> thinking about it, i don't know if it mattered.. right now it seems slow probably because before I didn't run all this kde nonsense
[10:31] <bipolar> I really have trouble understanding it when people complain abou this and that being crap when I use it every day and never have any problems or performance issues with it. Maybe I'm just lucky.
[10:32] <bobbyd> is it possible to change the default drag and drop behaviour to move instead of copy (mainly in text editors) ?
[10:32] <F43RY> Can someone help me with this error I get from dmesg: atkbd.c: Use 'setkeycodes e02a <keycode>' to make it know
[10:32] <Bizzeh> Ocean^: same error
[10:32] <leku-> the problem is now I kind of like this KDE business, it's just extremely unusable if it's not fast
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Aeeee: How much farther ahead is that version number, and do you need it?
[10:32] <leku-> yeah my box isn't even doing anything right now
[10:32] <leku-> load avg 1.29
[10:32] <bobbyd> leku-, what speed is your machine?
[10:32] <Bizzeh> i need to get the ati drivers from their site
[10:32] <Bizzeh> but
[10:32] <Marlun> Found out that I stopped a job, if I write "jobs" I can see "[1] + Stopped vi file.cpp", but how do I start it again?
[10:32] <leku-> Xorg and xmms the culprits
[10:33] <bipolar> leku-: I used to use gnome on brezzy. When I switched to kde 3.5 is was night and day. Kde is so much faster at everything.
[10:33] <Bizzeh> i need a working web client first
[10:33] <leku-> ooh
[10:33] <leku-> well
[10:33] <soundray> F43RY, as long as your keys do what you want them to do, I wouldn't worry about this message.
[10:33] <leku-> my box is a pentium m 1300mhz according to /proc/cpuinfo
[10:33] <leku-> 1183.74 bogomips
[10:33] <leku-> but it also says it's only running at 598.110
[10:33] <Bizzeh> and apt-get wont let me get lynx
[10:33] <leku-> something clocked this thing down
[10:33] <leku-> w-t-f mate
[10:33] <timfrost> Marlun, fg
[10:34] <Bizzeh> sudo apt-get install lynx
[10:34] <Bizzeh> says i cant have it
[10:34] <leku-> is this linux, or something in my BIOS?
[10:34] <F43RY> keyboard is correctly configured. The errors come up only when I type arrows!!!
[10:34] <Marlun> timfrost: hehe thanks, what does it stand for? no man page about it.
[10:34] <mwe> Bizzeh: it says that. "You can't have lynx"?
[10:34] <F43RY> I tried unsuccessfully lots configurations
[10:35] <deg0ba> anyone know the keyword to install bitchx using apt-get?
[10:35] <timfrost> Marlun, you used bash job control (CTRL-Z).  fg = "bring to foreground"
[10:35] <bipolar> leku-: sounds like speedstep
[10:35] <soundray> F43RY, same here on my laptop. Apparently the keys send some code in addition to what is standard. But there isn't really a cause for concern.
[10:35] <leku-> how do I disiable?
[10:35] <soundray> F43RY, at least in my experience.
[10:35] <Marlun> timfrost: ah, ok :)
[10:35] <leku-> deg0ba: apt-cache search bitchx
[10:35] <bipolar> leku-: it will speed up when it needs too. you won't gain any performance
[10:35] <Bizzeh> mwe: lynx isnt there but it is refaired to by another package, lynx has no instalation candidates
[10:35] <leku-> forget that noise
[10:35] <leku-> I want to always have it clocked at the same speed
[10:36] <Sh4d0x> hi soundray :D, i heard you helped xeon out, thnx  xXx
[10:36] <mwe> Bizzeh: you need to check your sources.list and sudo apt-get update
[10:36] <bipolar> leku-: is this a laptop?
[10:36] <soundray> Sh4d0x, I'm not sure he was happy. I told him to upgrade to breezy.
[10:36] <leku-> ya
[10:36] <leku-> dell d600 latitude
[10:36] <bipolar> leku-: same as the one I'm typeing this on.
[10:37] <leku-> nice
[10:37] <leku-> they're popular..
[10:37] <tim_> i have a dpt raid scsi card, my raid tower is detected on the card on boot up and ubuntu has my card listed in the devices but when i go into gparted i do not see the drives in the tower not sure where to go from here
[10:37] <Bizzeh> mwe: where is sources.list
[10:37] <bipolar> leku-: don't turn it off. it increase the chance of overheating. it was designed to use speedstep.
[10:37] <mwe> Bizzeh: /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <F43RY> According to You, would I let it be?
[10:37] <leku-> I don't really care if it overheats
[10:37] <Sh4d0x> soundray, uhu was no problem he had my ubuntu 5.1 disc, he could upgrade the packages from the disc
[10:37] <mwe> Bizzeh: sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:37] <leku-> someone will buy me a new one
[10:37] <leku-> see, this thing is running at 500mhz, i want a 1.3ghz machine
[10:37] <leku-> like I asked for
[10:38] <leku-> i'll figure it out tho
[10:38] <leku-> thanks
[10:38] <Bizzeh> there we go
[10:38] <Bizzeh> updating
[10:38] <bipolar> leku-: sorry. I'm not going to help you destory your laptop. It will run at 1.3 when you run an app. when idle, it drops the frequency.
[10:38] <Bizzeh> and were installing
[10:38] <mwe> Bizzeh: then sudo apt-get install lynx when it's done
[10:38] <soundray> leku-, Ubuntu has installed itself in a sensible way on your machine. It will run at 1300 if it needs to. Just leave it as it is.
[10:38] <leku-> google will help though
[10:38] <leku-> fuck that
[10:38] <leku-> i want it maxed out
[10:38] <bipolar> leku-: don't be stupid
[10:38] <jean> is angry drunken dwarves a good game?
[10:38] <leku-> i'm not stupid
[10:39] <mwe> Bizzeh: I think you should already have w3m though
[10:39] <leku-> i want ot be in control of my computer
[10:39] <leku-> I run Linux for a reason.
[10:39] <bipolar> leku-: you are actiing stupid, and not listening to people you know more about it then you. leave it alone.
[10:39] <Telemachus> leku:  it won't overheat...its designed to save your power and will extend processor life
[10:39] <leku-> like I said
[10:39] <jean> lets not call people stupid...k?
[10:39] <bobbyd> leku-, attach the CPU directly to your brain with electrodes, then you can tell it exactly what you want it to do!
[10:39] <leku-> I do not care about those factors
[10:39] <Mountainman> anyone else unable to goto ubuntuforums.org?
[10:40] <soundray> leku-, now, you said you won't take any advice, you say you will get your help from Google, so can you clear the channel for support requests please.
[10:40] <bobbyd> Mountainman, yes, I'm unable on moral grounds
[10:40] <leku-> god
[10:40] <mwe> Mountainman: yeah
[10:40] <leku-> you guys are kind of riddiculous
[10:40] <Bizzeh> i forgot how bad lynx was
[10:40] <Telemachus> leku: disable it in the bios then
[10:40] <bobbyd> Mountainman, the spelling is really bad.
[10:40] <leku-> if someone ocmes in here and asks for help on how to format a drive
[10:40] <tim_> anyone have a clue why gparted wont see my scsi drvies?
[10:40] <leku-> do you not tell them?
[10:40] <leku-> obviously, telemachus
[10:40] <Mountainman> heh
[10:40] <bobbyd> leku-, no way!
[10:40] <leku-> i just don't know why peop-le think they should tell me what is best for my computer
[10:40] <bobbyd> leku-, that would be dangerous
[10:40] <bipolar> Bizzeh: "links" is a bit better ;)
[10:40] <Telemachus> leku: then whats the problem?
[10:40] <jean> might we be kind supportive types here in the ubuntu community
[10:41] <armosfighter> !wine
[10:41] <Bizzeh> EVERY page i hit, it complains about no security cert
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: you just said you don't care if it overheats becouse someone will buy you a new one.
[10:41] <leku-> yes
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: your parrents?
[10:41] <tonyyarusso> Bizzeh: elinks is a bit better.
[10:41] <leku-> my parents?????
[10:41] <mwe> or w3m
[10:41] <leku-> your tax money, bro
[10:41] <Bizzeh> as long as i can grab these ati drivers, im gonna be happy
[10:41] <bipolar> leku-: thats what you sound like, sorry.
[10:41] <Bizzeh> soon as i get my gui, i know where i am
[10:42] <leku-> no that's how you have made me out to be in your mind
[10:42] <leku-> i don't care if my ocmputer blows up
[10:42] <leku-> i will buy a new one
[10:42] <bobbyd> leku-, you missed a comma there
[10:42] <Bizzeh> i want the xorg 6.x drivers from ati dont i?
[10:42] <tonyyarusso> leku-: All the more reason not to tell you if it's our money.
[10:42] <soundray> leku-, I have to agree with bipolar, you do sound immature.
[10:42] <ernst_> could anybody give me a help on playing mp3s on linux pls?
[10:42] <leku-> 8(
[10:42] <soundray> !tell ernst_ about mp3
[10:43] <jean> lets not call people names...
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell ernst_ about mp3
[10:43] <bipolar> leku-: I suguest you go to google and figure it out yourself. the system is working at it's peek effency and you will only hurt it by changing it.
[10:43] <hopeowl> I have a problem that is hard for me to resolve
[10:43] <jean> we can hurt peoples feelings this way
[10:43] <Bizzeh> how do i force lynx to wget a .sh from a site instead of displaying it
[10:43] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Quickdraw, eh?
[10:43] <mwe> hopeowl: yes?
[10:43] <leku-> I won't hurt anything mr PC doctor
[10:43] <bobbyd> jean, woulnd't that be confusing?
[10:43] <soundray> tonyyarusso, ay?
[10:43] <leku-> thx for your concern tho
[10:44] <bobbyd> jean, should we use numbers instead?
[10:44] <opnsrc> What's the default video / media player for Ubuntu?
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Beat me to the !tell
[10:44] <jean> bobbyd: say what?
[10:44] <soundray> tonyyarusso, :)
[10:44] <leku-> opnsrc: I recommend xmms and vlc
[10:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:44] <bobbyd> jean, well, if we don't call people names, what should we call them?
[10:44] <opnsrc> wasn't there something else that comes with it?
[10:44] <Mountainman> im having probs with an ubuntu install that wont recognize the usb optical mouse
[10:44] <Mountainman> is this a known prob?
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: Totem's default.
[10:44] <leku-> i use kubuntu and a lot of programs come with it
[10:44] <Marlun> Bizzeh: Can't you press "d"?
[10:44] <jean> bobbyd: no we should not insult people with numbers or names
[10:44] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: But I don't think many use it.
[10:45] <bobbyd> Mountainman, my logitech one works fine
[10:45] <opnsrc> that's the one
[10:45] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:45] <bipolar> opnsrc: the totem media player is the default for video. rythembox is default for audio.
[10:45] <jean> bobbyd: no violence either
[10:45] <Mountainman> hmm
[10:45] <bobbyd> jean, how would one insult someone with a number?
[10:45] <bobbyd> 12!
[10:45] <soundray> jean, looking back over the conversation, I can't see any traces of namecalling.
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> bobbyd: It's like the joke about the prisoners...
[10:45] <glacious> is it wise to have Ubuntu on logical partitions?
[10:46] <opnsrc> Is Totem Gstreamer or Totem Xine better?
[10:46] <glacious> will it slow it down or anything else to degrade the experience?
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: why not
[10:46] <bobbyd> soundray, someone mentioned that they thought someone was immature, but I don't knoe of anyone being called that...
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: it's fine
[10:46] <hopeowl> I have three monitor configured in my Xorg.cong using Xinerama extension. One video card has a DVI + VGA output that is controlling 2 monitors. The other card has just one monitor connected. While the contigous desktop works fine - the display of the monitor that is connected to the DVI output usually has colour distortion after running for a while.
[10:46] <glacious> mwe: excellent, thank you :)
[10:46] <mwe> glacious: it wont be slow
[10:46] <Bizzeh> argh
[10:46] <opnsrc> (which one plays the most codecs)?
[10:46] <Bizzeh> managed to get them going
[10:46] <bipolar> opnsrc: gstreamer is more stable and complete. the xine one can play more formats with the open packages.
[10:46] <gumpish> Would there be problems using a Breezy x86(32-bit) install DVD on an Athlon 64 system with an ATI X800 XT PCIe card? (The install seems to complete but X can't start.)
[10:46] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:46] <deg0ba> what is apt-cache search supposed to output?
[10:46] <tonyyarusso> opnsrc: Gstreamer will be better in Dapper, but it seems Totem Xine is good at the moment.
[10:47] <bobbyd> hopeowl, are you sure it's not the monitor?
[10:47] <Ocean^> anything special have to be done to use webcam under mercury for ubuntu ?  I got the defalt Mercury package installed...  says it finds all the libarys just fine, but wont detect the webcam
[10:47] <mwe> I can't get gstreamer to work in kde. seems to be a general problem
[10:47] <soundray> bobbyd, all I can remember was someone saying that they *sounded* immature, a statement that in my view was geared at calling the person to reason, not to denounce them.
[10:47] <bobbyd> gumpish, maybe it's a driver problem?
[10:47] <Ocean^> mind you firefox see's it just fine
[10:47] <jean> deg0ba: a list of package names "apt-cache search [keyword] "
[10:47] <Ng> you lot should be arguing about whatever you are arguing about in #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> deg0ba: Any packages that match what you told it to look for, just their names and short description.
[10:47] <Ng> or you could shoosh ;)
[10:48] <bobbyd> soundray, "immature" would be a silly name for someone anyway, bob is much nicer, and easy to type!
[10:48] <tonyyarusso> Ng has a good point.
[10:48] <jean> deg0ba: apt-get update to update the apt cache
[10:48] <soundray> Ng, you are so right. I promise this will be my last line on the issue in this channel.
[10:48] <mwe> bobbyd: what do you think about alexander?
[10:48] <glacious> reiserfs still the perfered FS for a desktop/workstation?
[10:49] <glacious> and use ext3 for /tmp?
[10:49] <Ng> glacious: that depends who you ask, I prefer ext3
[10:49] <jahshua> duckblur: you here ?
[10:49] <ardchoille> Is ubuntuforums.org down at the moment?
[10:49] <ccc_> anyone using gxiso (the gtk app for xbox xiso ftp transfers)?
[10:49] <mwe> ardchoille: yes
[10:49] <hopeowl> I have narrowed it down to a Xorg problem or perhaps even a driver problem. I think this because no such distortion happens in a similarly configured WindowsXp enviornment. Other Unix desktops such as XFCE and KDE also suffer the distortion.
[10:49] <decaf> glacious: not for me, once it ate my squid cache
[10:49] <jean> im using reiser, dont know why though
[10:49] <opnsrc> thanks
[10:50] <glacious> decaf: gross.  maybe i'll go back to ext3 for this install
[10:50] <bobbyd> mwe, that's quite nice, but not as easy to type
[10:50] <ardchoille> mwe: thank  you
[10:50] <Bizzeh> ccc_: im new here, but i think its safe to say people dont support piracy in here
[10:50] <jean> does ext3 do hard drive checks at boot?
[10:50] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, I do
[10:50] <ccc_> Bizzeh: xisos doesn't necessarily mean piracy
[10:50] <Neurosis> Anyone know of a good chat client for linux other than IRC?
[10:50] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, I have a patch and a parrot
[10:50] <jean> like a scandisk
[10:51] <Bizzeh> ccc_: you have a modded xbox, that illegal as it is in most countrys now
[10:51] <Ng> Bizzeh: but it may not be illegal in his
[10:51] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, that's not true at all
[10:51] <mwe> xbox iso are illegal?
[10:51] <glacious> 2 GB for /tmp good? =)
[10:51] <mwe> didn't know that
[10:51] <jahshua> Neurosis: gaim,kopete ?
[10:51] <Ng> jean: only if it has been unmounted incorrectly
[10:51] <jean> am i wrong or does reiser not have to do fs hard dsisk checks at boot?
[10:51] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, it's actually completely legal to do a linux install now
[10:51] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: softmod
[10:51] <Neurosis> I mean like a new chat community?
[10:51] <Telemachus> Bizzeh...which countrries are they?
[10:51] <jean> after a crash
[10:52] <ccc_> Bizzeh: not in sweden where i am, so...
[10:52] <Ng> jean: you're talking about journalling, which massively reduces the amount of time required to recover from a crash. ext3 and reiser both do journalling
[10:52] <Bizzeh> you cant legaly hardmod consoles in the US or most of europe
[10:52] <hopeowl> Actually the colour distortion seems to only happen after the Xscreensaver runs
[10:52] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, did he mention hardware modification?
[10:52] <jean> Ng: i see
[10:52] <mwe> Bizzeh: well in denmark it's perfectly legal
[10:52] <Telemachus> Bizzeh, that isn't most countries
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> jean: Mine does it if something was logged as being bad, or unmounted incorrectly.  I also get a check after every 30 or so mounts.  See Ng's for journalling comments.
[10:52] <Bizzeh> Telemachus: its most countrys with electricity
[10:52] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, are you in the united states at the moment?
[10:52] <Bizzeh> no
[10:52] <Bizzeh> uk
[10:53] <Neurosis> Is there a paltalk sort of thing for linux?
[10:53] <Hawk|-> HI, how do i figure out in which runlevel i am?
[10:53] <ccc_> most countries with electricity = usa & western europe <- :D
[10:53] <mwe> Bizzeh: of course piracy is illeagal though
[10:53] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, that's pretty funny, did you do well in geography at school? :)
[10:53] <Bizzeh> there are 2 things that come as iso for the xbox, the dvd player that is a hacked ms dash, and games
[10:53] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: did i say western europe
[10:54] <mwe> Bizzeh: is it illegal to hard mod a console in the UK ?
[10:54] <Bizzeh> i said EUROPE
[10:54] <Bizzeh> yes
[10:54] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, and linux distrobutions...
[10:54] <Telemachus> Bizzeh:  There are 192 countries...all have electricity and only few have rules against modding consoles
[10:54] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: he wouldnt be using gxiso to put it on the xbox
[10:54] <poimen> bah I dont kwon why if you pay 140 to 300 dollars for a expox you can not modify it
[10:54] <soundray> Let's not call copying software piracy. Piracy is invading ships and stealing property.
[10:55] <bobbyd> soundray, and rape
[10:55] <soundray> Arrgh, offtopic again.
[10:55] <bobbyd> and murder
[10:55] <bobbyd> arrrrrrrrr
[10:55] <Ryan450> hey gang, downloaded an RPM file to install the java runtime enviorment plugin for mozilla.. problem is that it says the rpm: command not found.. any suggestions?
[10:55] <Bizzeh> i think im sat in the middle of a bunch of anti-ms zelouts
[10:55] <timfrost> !java
[10:55] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:55] <Ryan450> ty
[10:55] <mwe> poimen: just move to Denmark. It's legal here
[10:55] <ccc_> Bizzeh: listen, gxiso can both ftp transfer xiso files and unpack xiso files. there are lots of homebrew xiso files, and there is no law against unpacking those anywhere in the world.
[10:55] <poimen> lol
[10:55] <palimphread> hi
[10:55] <Telemachus> rpms are for Redhat and Suse linux
[10:55] <talisein> saying the phrase software piracy only helps the evil ones perpetuate the idea that such encrochments on our freedoms is okay
[10:56] <xored> how to show the current printer spool under ubuntu
[10:56] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, not calling copying software piracy has nothing to do with being a zealot. It's to do with not accepting someone elses connotations on a subject
[10:56] <Bizzeh> ccc_: 99% of homebrew comes as raaw files
[10:56] <Bizzeh> raw
[10:56] <ccc_> Bizzeh: yes, and your point is?
[10:56] <poimen> na mwe na I just have my own pc with linux scr*w the xbox , xbox is for playing games and playstation kick its as***
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i know, i am/was a dev on xbmc
[10:56] <Bizzeh> i know the scene
[10:56] <ccc_> ok?
[10:57] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, if your're happy to define your views through someone else's interpretation then just go ahead. Unless of course you really believe copying software is like piracy.
[10:57] <Telemachus> Ryan450: you need to install the the self extracting file from www.java.com
[10:57] <bobbyd> which is worrying in it's own way :)
[10:57] <jclinton> Does anyone know the "Debian Way" to switch compilers from 4.x to 3.x ??????
[10:57] <soundray> Bizzeh, not accepting someone elses diction makes me a zealot?
[10:57] <Rawplayer> MI
[10:58] <jago> hey does anybody know the minimum requirements for ubuntu?
[10:58] <Bizzeh> bobbyd: go buy a new kitchen, then ill come take it off you
[10:58] <Bizzeh> is that theft
[10:58] <soundray> jclinton, update-alternatives
[10:58] <Ng> jago: a few gb of disk and 128mb of ram is the only real minimum requirement
[10:58] <Seveas> Bizzeh, -ETOPIC
[10:58] <jago> thaks NG
[10:58] <ccc_> thanks for proving your point Bizzeh :D
[10:58] <jago>  but the processor?
[10:58] <bobbyd> Bizzeh, yes, obviously. Is it piracy? kitchen piracy?
[10:58] <Telemachus> jago: yep, depends on whether you need to run X
[10:59] <Seveas> bobbyd, -ETOPIC, go somewhere else with this discussion
[10:59] <Bizzeh> a pirate steals
[10:59] <jago> :S
[10:59] <Ng> jago: it'll run on an old 486 if you really want it to, the RAM is more important really
[10:59] <Seveas> Bizzeh, last warning
[10:59] <bobbyd> Seveas, ok
[10:59] <aLeSD> hi all
[10:59] <Seveas> hi aLeSD
[10:59] <jago> ng:if i got 96mb RAM?
[10:59] <jago> does it work?
[10:59] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[10:59] <Seveas> jago, that's not enough for Ubuntu, try Xubuntu or a non-GUI system
[10:59] <timfrost> jclinton, if you need 3,4, install it.  On breezy, 3.4 and 4.0 co-exist.  To use 3.4, type 'export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4', then run the configure scripts
[10:59] <aLeSD> has ubuntu somethink to set the frequency or the cpu... I have a laptop
[11:00] <aLeSD> ?
[11:00] <jago> :S
[11:00] <Seveas> aLeSD, yes, installed by default
[11:00] <fissy> hello, any gurus about? Is there a way of calculating where mkfs.ext3 would put backup superblocks given the default options and a physical disk size of 300GB?
[11:00] <Bizzeh> Seveas: fine, fuck it, everyone else is ok to speak their mind except the person who supports legality and not being a stuck up tight ass... paying for software is fair when someone put alot of money into making a good product..
[11:00] <jago> ok thanks
[11:00] <poimen> jago I got a 96 mb ram   , 450MHz amd    with 10gig working with xubuntu
[11:00] <rehpotsirhc> are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:00] <jago> :D
[11:00] <bobbyd> anyway, does anyone know how to change the default drag and drop behaviour in text editors? by default it copies text, but I'd like it to move it by default.
[11:00] <Stormx2> rehpotsirhc: they are.
[11:00] <poimen> ubuntu works but too slow
[11:00] <rehpotsirhc> k thanks, just making sure :D
[11:00] <jago> from where i got Xubuntu?
[11:00] <jago> poimen?
[11:00] <jclinton> soundray: no, that doesn't work... that lets you change from gcc to other types of compilers, not between versions of gcc
[11:00] <german> Hello everybody
[11:01] <poimen> well I just installed ubuntu and then I did apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:01] <Seveas> jago, that's a 2-phase install: install Ubuntu with 'server' option and then install the xubuntu-desktop package
[11:01] <jago> :S
[11:01] <jago>  ok thx
[11:01] <soundray> jclinton, give me a minute
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> jclinton: Doesn't apt have a force version option somewhere?
[11:01] <german> I changed my icons to gartoon theme, and it's excellent, but i just don't like one icon, and i would like to change just that icon for another one
[11:02] <Ng> german: presumably you'd need to edit the theme
[11:02] <soundray> jclinton, you are right, but that feature enables you to use gcc-3.4 or gcc-3.3 instead of v.4 once you have them installed.
[11:02] <Seveas> german, that means browsing in /usr/share/icons and deleting/adding icons
[11:02] <jclinton> tonyyarusso: dunno about that; i have both 3.x and 4.x installed but i need to use 3.x for a program i am compiling
[11:02] <aLeSD> Seveas: how could I set it?
[11:02] <Seveas> aLeSD, Pentium M?
[11:02] <aLeSD> Seveas: yes
[11:03] <jclinton> soundray: i have them both installed but /etc/alternatives/cc points to /usr/bin/gcc
[11:03] <Ribs> jclinton: try CC=gcc-3.4
[11:03] <german> thanks!
[11:03] <Seveas> aLeSD, rightclick on the panel, select add to panel, select CPU frequency monitor
[11:03] <Ribs> along with your compile line
[11:03] <jclinton> Ribs: ok trying
[11:03] <talisein> jclinton, what does gcc point to? It should be a symbolic link to gcc-4.0
[11:03] <jclinton> talisein: yea it is
[11:03] <gabe> ...
[11:03] <german> thanks Seveas, thanks Ng
[11:03] <Seveas> aLeSD, that's just a monitor - setting the frequency is done automatically
[11:03] <aLeSD> Seveas: fine
[11:03] <talisein> jclinton, is there a gcc-3.4?
[11:03] <jclinton> talisein: yes
[11:04] <soundray> jclinton, and /usr/bin/gcc points to /etc/alternatives/gcc, which in turn points to either /usr/bin/gcc-3.3, /usr/bin/gcc-3.4, or something else. Get it?
[11:04] <Seveas> aLeSD, if you want to manually set it: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gnome-applets
[11:04] <Seveas> aLeSD, that turns the monitor in a controller ;)
[11:04] <jclinton> soundray: no, there's is no /etc/alternatives/gcc, /usr/bin/gcc points to gcc-4.0
[11:04] <talisein> jclinton, change where the symbolic link points to, but I don't know the "debian way" sorry :)
[11:04] <Seveas> soundray, gcc does not use the alternatices system :)
[11:05] <Dreamglider> i just got notified about a new kernel update, i installed it now when ever i open firefox i hear a loud scratch/krackle sound in my headphones/speakers anyone know what it's caused by?
[11:05] <Seveas> jclinton, export CC=gcc-3.4 should work for a single session of compiling, otherwise: sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:05] <soundray> Sorry jclinton
[11:05] <jclinton> Seveas: ok trying
[11:05] <talisein> Dreamglider, have you rebooted since the install?
[11:05] <Dreamglider> talisein, yes i have
[11:06] <Ryan450> hmm.. alright.. I've added the multiverse repository so that I can download the java-package.. but apparently its not there when I go to apt-get install java-package :S
[11:06] <jclinton> Seveas: didn't work; i'm trying to compile QEMU
[11:06] <armosfighter> when i enter wine dvdshrink32setup.exe in the terminal it doesnt work what am i doing wrong?
[11:06] <gabe> How the heck do I change the deafult name it logs me in in xChat?
[11:06] <jclinton> Seveas: it could be that the ./configure script is ignoring that env variable i guess
[11:06] <taoscotch> where do i ask questions related to hardware
[11:06] <armosfighter> i have the package on my desktop
[11:06] <armosfighter> its still a zip file
[11:06] <mwe> Seveas: I have to put a -n to ln as well to get it to overwrite links. ln -fns
[11:06] <soundray> jclinton, maybe the ln -sf tip will work then.
[11:07] <jclinton> ok, just wanted to avoid any permanent changes
[11:07] <jclinton> or anything that would be overwritten by a package install
[11:07] <soundray> jclinton, you can still change the configure script.
[11:07] <jclinton> k
[11:08] <Dreamglider> i have a 10 gb hdd here i want to install ubuntu on, how should i partion it ?
[11:08] <aLeSD> Seveas: very good tool. Thanks... I can chose the governor... I was searching it
[11:08] <talisein> Dreamglider, Try to boot back into your old kernel, just to verify that it is indeed the kernel that is the problem
[11:08] <Dreamglider> talisein, ok brb
[11:08] <aLeSD> Seveas: do u have a pentium-m too?
[11:08] <mwe> Dreamglider: I just have one big / partition
[11:08] <soundray> mwe, don't you hate that...
[11:08] <tonyyarusso> Dreamglider: Unless you need to dualboot, it can do it automatically for you.
[11:09] <mwe> soundray: no
[11:09] <mwe> soundray: why would I
[11:09] <akurashy> is there any good dvd player?
[11:09] <soundray> mwe, tonyyarusso, I mean people leaving when you're in the middle of answering their question.
[11:09] <Withdraw> im having trouble compiling my kernel, i get somekind of gcc-3.4: command not found error
[11:09] <aLeSD> I was searching for a kernel image optimizated for pentium-m. where I could find it?
[11:09] <Withdraw> http://pastebin.com/512126
[11:09] <taoscotch> where can i ask questions about hardware
[11:09] <Ng> aLeSD: install linux-686
[11:09] <Withdraw> anyone hava  solution
[11:09] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Yeah, but there are worse things.
[11:10] <mwe> soundray: oh yeah. that's annoying
[11:10] <decaf> Withdraw: install gcc-3.4 :)
[11:10] <vassilis> once again the forums are unreachable
[11:10] <soundray> taoscotch, just ask -- you will get dispatched if it doesn't fit in here.
[11:10] <mwe> soundray: thought you asked if I hated having just one big / partition
[11:10] <Withdraw> decaf, i did apt-get install gcc but it says its up to date, how can i override that ?
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> mwe: I had one big / at first, but have since found that I want to be able to reinstall without losing certain things.
[11:10] <decaf> Withdraw: also take look at "kernel-package" to build kernels
[11:10] <mwe> tonyyarusso: yeah
[11:11] <Withdraw> "kernel-package is already the newest version.
[11:11] <Withdraw> "
[11:11] <soundray> mwe, that works surprisingly well. I'm still tempted to put in another disk and try out LVM...
[11:11] <decaf> Withdraw: default gcc is 4.0, there are other packages, gcc-3.3 gcc-3.4
[11:11] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ?
[11:11] <glacious> meh, i keep getting the "error loading grub:   error 17".  I installed grub to /dev/sda6, set that partition bootable.  what can go wrong?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> Are there console-based e-mail clients?  What would you recommend?
[11:11] <fissy> telnet
[11:11] <mwe> soundray: yeah
[11:11] <Agiofws> ?
[11:12] <gabe> How do I change login settings in xChat.. it just keeps logging me in to the channel and with the login name I don't want.
[11:12] <spacey> tonyyarusso, mutt
[11:12] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I use mutt
[11:12] <Agiofws> do i have to turn to debian ?
[11:12] <talisein> tonyyarusso, mutt all the way :)
[11:12] <decaf> Agiofws: system -> preferences -> removable drives...
[11:12] <Withdraw> decaf, kewl, thanks that fixed it (apt-get install gcc-3.4)
[11:12] <mwe> tonyyarusso: that's a good point
[11:12] <asparagui> i have a winxp box, i wanna add a hard drive and put ubuntu on that.
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> spacey, soundray, talisein: Sounds like we have a consensus!
[11:12] <Agiofws> decaf,  console  way
[11:12] <taoscotch> soundray : i was trying to install ubuntu on an old AST advantage 625 computer real slow, real old. i changed the cd rom and installed the one that had auto cd-boot thing. now when i turn on  the computer i dont see anything, my harddrive or my cdrom, only floppy works.
[11:12] <asparagui> is there a way to do that without reinstalling xp?
[11:12] <fissy> telnet :'(
[11:12] <Agiofws> ?
[11:12] <glacious> anyone know why grub won't load at boot?  /dev/sda6 is bootable, and thats where grub is.  /dev/sda6 is /boot.
[11:12] <soundray> tonyyarusso, to quote the developer: "This email client sucks less"...
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> asparagui: I don't know why you'd need to.
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asparagui: Yeah, just put the new HDD in and install ubuntu on it.
[11:13] <logan001101> hi guys, i have a tiny problem, my font stype of all my windows toolbar are very small, how can i make it bigger?
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Nice.
[11:13] <talisein> tonyyarusso, If you don't already know about it, google around and learn about procmail too.
[11:13] <mwe> tonyyarusso: last time I had to reinstall because I got promblems upgrading to breezy I just burned important stuff to a dvd-rw though
[11:13] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Will do.
[11:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asparagui: Ubuntu will install Grub, which lets you dual-boot, and it'll auto-detect and configure it for your WinXP installation.
[11:13] <asparagui> ja?
[11:13] <vassilis> anyone can help me why there is no sound in ubuntu?
[11:13] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?
[11:13] <asparagui> super-coolness.
[11:14] <logan001101> any idea?
[11:14] <fissy> logan001101, click on System in the top left then go on preferences, then go on font
[11:14] <asparagui> k, i'll go set that up later.
[11:14] <vassilis> my sound card is (incorrectly) identified as Audigy LS
[11:14] <crimsun> Agiofws: System> Preferences> Removable Drives and Media
[11:14] <tonyyarusso> mwe: That's one way.  I've put a bunch of music on here now too, and can only burn CD, so that would be a lot of burning...
[11:14] <mwe> tonyyarusso: yeah
[11:14] <crimsun> vassilis: lspci -nv  -->pastebin
[11:14] <logan001101> fissy: im using xfce4
[11:14] <asparagui> thanks. ;-)
[11:14] <talisein> vassilis, what sound card do you have? :)
[11:14] <soundray> taoscotch, maybe you need to make settings in the BIOS setup?
[11:14] <vassilis> it's am omboard Realtek chip
[11:14] <fissy> logan001101, OIC, no idea. Ask in #xfce :)
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> can someone give me the name of a program to burn images, program should be working in ubuntu (duhh)
[11:15] <soundray> Sh4d0x, nautilus
[11:15] <talisein> hrm, whats the Ubuntu equivelant to alsaconfig?
[11:15] <logan001101> fissy: is #xfce in freenode ??
[11:15] <notgabe> WHat the heck? Why is xChat logging me in automatically and whay can't I change my login info? Serioulsy, no one using xChat here?... It wasn't doing this before.
[11:15] <logan001101> fissy: anyway, thanks for help
[11:15] <crimsun> vassilis: uh, that's a HUGE difference... please pastebin what I asked for, thanks.
[11:15] <Sh4d0x> soundray, thnx, from this day forward, you are my ubuntu god :D
[11:15] <crimsun> talisein: there is none
[11:15] <vassilis> little help here
[11:16] <glacious> can /boot be on a logical partition made bootable, for GRUB?
[11:16] <vassilis> what do you mean pastebin?(newbie)
[11:16] <crimsun> !tell vassilis about pastebin
[11:16] <Seveas> !tell vassilis about pastebin
[11:16] <soundray> crimson won this shootout.
[11:16] <taoscotch>  soundray : i tried bios setting in there, i cannot see the name of the hardrive or the cdrom, neither the new one nor the older one. and when i tried to go back to defaults, it says hardrive not installed
[11:16] <vassilis> ok thansk
[11:17] <Keyseir> I'm having a little problem... I installed win4lin and I was setting up a windows session. I can't do the installation with sudo because then the session wouldn't belong to the user (session can't be run as sudo), and it won't let me install without sudo because the user doesn't have the ability to change ownership and stuff during the installation. Any idea what I can do?
[11:17] <soundray> taoscotch, just to check: you replaced the CD-ROM drive with a different one?
[11:17] <Sh4d0x> soundray, hmm seems i cannot install it from the repositories *went googling
[11:17] <timfrost> spacey, the default nick and server are set at the TOP of the serverlist dialog box (Xchat->Server List)
[11:17] <yatesy> Keyseir: sudo -i
[11:17] <Keyseir> yatesy: thanks a bunch
[11:17] <picasso> nooooo! not another kernel update
[11:17] <soundray> Sh4d0x, nautilus is part of gnome. Just right-click an iso file and there's the option to write it to CD-R
[11:17] <picasso> now i gotta recompile my wifi drivers??
[11:18] <Agiofws> ok how do i turn off automounting in ubuntu ? what do i edit ? init.d ? or rc.X links ?
[11:18] <tyler_> why is it that i install the fasttrack network plugin for giFT but seems i cannot get into that network?
[11:18] <taoscotch> soundray : yeah, i had another computer a newer one where the cd can boot directly so to save trouble i removed the older one and replaced it with a newer one
[11:18] <crimsun> Agiofws: I just told you
[11:18] <mwe> picasso: you have to recompile any custom added modules
[11:18] <picasso> Agiofws: try 'grep -r "mount -a" /etc/rc.d'
[11:18] <Agiofws> crimsun,  i DONT  USE A GUI OR GNOME oR KDE
[11:18] <picasso> hust kdiding
[11:18] <Sh4d0x> soundray oooooh, that explains much :D  :love: ubuntu :D
[11:18] <Keyseir> yatesy: how do I disable sudo -i ?
[11:19] <mwe> crimsun: what if you don't have gnome?
[11:19] <Knelix2> After I install a n app via Synaptic, how do I access it? How do I know where it is?
[11:19] <crimsun> Agiofws: then next time please specify you mean mounting of partitions, not devices, thanks.
[11:19] <picasso> mew, sux0rs, i dont remember what i had to do hehe
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: disable?
[11:19] <bobbyd> hi
[11:19] <Keyseir> yatesy: turn it off.
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: to exit out of it you mean?
[11:19] <Keyseir> yatesy: yes
[11:19] <picasso> ipw2200
[11:19] <soundray> taoscotch, depending on the internals of the AST, you may have to switch the drive to work as a slave with a jumper.
[11:19] <crimsun> mwe: communication problem
[11:19] <glacious> when GRUB is installed to your MBR, does the /boot partition still get used if thats where grub is?
[11:19] <bobbyd> what do i need to do to make the nvidia binary driver work again after I update the kernel?
[11:19] <yatesy> Keyseir: same as you would normally logout, exit :)
[11:19] <Stormx2> Hey everyone. Is there a nice music-making app for ubuntu, like renoise, reason, etc?
[11:19] <vassilis> crimsun: ok
[11:19] <Agiofws> crimsun,  it mounts  partitions automatically do you whch script is doing it ?
[11:20] <taoscotch> soundray, taking it out and putting it in again, won't do the trick right?
[11:20] <mwe> crimsun: I mean how do you turn off the auto mount if you don't have gnome
[11:20] <Keyseir> yatesy: ah. It's still saying it isn't owned by "this user", and when I try to run it with sudo -i still up, it says it can't be run as 'root'
[11:20] <crimsun> Agiofws: /what/ is being automatically mounted?
[11:20] <tonyyarusso> glacious: I believe so, as that's where all of the files it uses are.
[11:20] <Sh4d0x> soundray, i have to dissapoint you once more, there is no right mous click option called "burn to"
[11:20] <soundray> taoscotch, no.
[11:20] <glacious> tonyyarusso: ok, thank you.
[11:20] <Gori> Hi people ! Anybody have an idea when the ubuntuforums.org are up again ?
[11:20] <Keyseir> yatesy: It seems like it has to be installed as root but it can't be run as root and it has to be run by the user that installed it.
[11:20] <talisein> Agiofws, is the unwanted partition in your /etc/fstab?
[11:20] <soundray> taoscotch, you need to find the jumpers or switches. Google may help if you know the model name of your drive.
[11:20] <navarone> Stormx2, I don't know if this will suit your needs but google lmms and look for project on sourceforge.net I think it is a sequencer kinda prog
[11:21] <Keyseir> yatesy: what the heck..
[11:21] <Ov3R> hi
[11:21] <Ov3R> speake spanish?
[11:21] <Ov3R> :S
[11:21] <taoscotch> soundray : i m chatting with you from my laptop it has a cd-writer dvd etc. on it but no floppy and the other computer doesn't have internet connection, so how do i move files from here to there...
[11:21] <Agiofws> crimsun,  de/hdaX  and /dev/hdabX
[11:21] <soundray> Sh4d0x, "Write do Disc"? Second last?
[11:21] <Agiofws> talisein,  yes it is
[11:21] <bshumate> !es
[11:21] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:21] <crimsun> Agiofws: then you need to edit /etc/fstab and append 'noauto' to the options line(s)
[11:21] <talisein> Agiofws, in the options field for that partition add noauto :)
[11:22] <soundray> taoscotch, I thought we weren't at the stage where we worry about moving files...
[11:22] <navarone> Talisein isn't that a character from the Grey Mouser books?
[11:22] <Agiofws> crimsun,   thats not such a good  solution
[11:22] <Agiofws> what is automounting
[11:22] <taoscotch> soundray : i m sorry i thought resetting bios or jumpers and switches required moving files,
[11:23] <talisein> navarone, actually its a play on the world Taliesin, which i was first exposed to in Stephen Lawhead's King Arthur books
[11:23] <talisein> err, word, not world
[11:23] <mwe> how do you stop the system from mounting the cd when you put one in?
[11:23] <Sh4d0x> soundray, nope, my brothers laptop has (finally, it took 8 weeks) returned from repair, i'd like to put an anti virus on it but the bin/cue files are in my windows partion. could that be the problem why it's not working? :$
[11:23] <navarone> hmmm...looke familiar  at any rate...:)
[11:23] <soundray> taoscotch, no, this is a pure hardware procedure. You take out the CD drive again and see if it has switches or jumpers.
[11:23] <taoscotch> soundray : cool i will do that in a second
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: /etc/rcS.d/S35mountall.sh is a symlink to /etc/init.d/mountall.sh, which contains a call to mount -a
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: simply remove the -a
[11:24] <vassilis> crimsun: pastebin ok, any help?
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: be aware that you're changing the semantics of the boot, though.
[11:24] <rambo3> pfffff . why does page like experts-exchange exist on google results
[11:24] <soundray> Sh4d0x, got you. I thought you were trying to write an ISO file to CD.
[11:24] <crimsun> Agiofws: it /really/ is a much better idea to place 'noauto' in /etc/fstab
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  ok done it in fstab
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  something else
[11:25] <crimsun> vassilis: sec
[11:25] <Keyseir> how does one get 'su' to work? I do su and type my password but it always says su: Authentication failure
[11:25] <bobbyd> Stormx2, ask in #lad (linux audio development_
[11:25] <rambo3> try sudo -i
[11:25] <Agiofws> crimsun,  le me reboot
[11:25] <Knelix2> After installing an app via Synaptic how do I access it? How do I know where it is?
[11:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Keyseir: root is disabled by default
[11:25] <timfrost> !tell Keyseir about root
[11:26] <Sh4d0x> soundray, an image, yes, could be an iso, but this program is bin/cue imaged (windows h ;))
[11:26] <soundray> Sh4d0x, in gnome, usually if you insert a blank CD in a drive, it'll open a window where you can drop files to write to it.
[11:26] <talisein> Agiofws, "noauto" prevents init scripts from mounting the partition at boot time, but still lets you mount it at any other time by only calling the target, e.g. "mount /mnt/backup"
[11:26] !lilo:*! Hi all. Prime time channel note. Freenode hosts an unofficial support channel ( ##xen ) for the Xen server virtualization project. It's a small but growing channel---if you'd like to help out, please stop by. Thanks! :)
[11:26] <tonyyarusso> Knelix2: Sometimes it will add to the Gnome menu, sometimes just typing the program name in terminal runs it, sometime you have to use locate to figure out the command.
[11:26] <fiona> Are th fora down?
[11:26] <Keyseir> I hope root is enablable.
[11:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fiona: They seem to be.
[11:27] <gnudreamer> are there any security risks to being on irc?
[11:27] <Sh4d0x> soundray i'll try copy paste the bin/cue in the blank cd
[11:27] <crimsun> vassilis: I need lspci -v, too
[11:27] <soundray> Sh4d0x, no... in that case I suggest you look at k3b.
[11:27] <fiona> Thanks Pumpernickle
[11:27] <fissy> Keyseir, you just have to set a password for root (sudo passwd)
[11:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Keyseir: It is... just use sudo passwd root
[11:27] <Keyseir> OK
[11:27] <navarone> gnudreamer, only if you give someone personal info...or accept files thru dcc
[11:27] <gnudreamer> ty
[11:28] <talisein> gnudreamer, if you don't have "auto retrieve" or "auto get" enabled, irc is pretty safe. Obviously if you fetch executables from unknown sources, you can not trust them
[11:28] <soundray> Sh4d0x, k3b lists "* writing existing iso-images and cue/bin images to cd" as a feature.
[11:28] <gnudreamer> ty
[11:28] <fiona> I just seemed to have hosed my X server - upgraded to Xorg 7.0 and get now messages that X is not executable. Anyone similar problems and a solution?
[11:28] <vassilis> crimsun: done, anything else you need?
[11:28] <Sh4d0x> soundray k3b? :$
[11:29] <soundray> Sh4d0x, 'apt-cache show k3b', if you're happy, 'sudo apt-get install k3b'
[11:29] <navarone> Interesting...talisein...it seems that "Taliesin" is also a 6th cent Welsh poet...lol
[11:29] <Pygi> freaky: ping
[11:29] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fiona: If it gives a path to the non-executable-but-should-be file, you could try chmod +x...
[11:30] <Sh4d0x> soundray aha k3b is a program ,, nice :D  thnx
[11:30] <crimsun> vassilis: does your sound not work at all?
[11:30] <vassilis> nope, nothing
[11:30] <fiona> no joy with that
[11:30] <crimsun> vassilis: cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:30] <Stormx2> navarone: Ack. The lmms dependancies suck >.<
[11:30] <tonyyarusso> spacey, soundray, talisein: I should be able to configure Mutt to share mail directories with Thunderbird, so I can switch back and forth between them at will, right?
[11:30] <talisein> navarone, and the name of a welsh band. Also check out the connection between Frank Lloyd Wright and the world taliesin, its pretty interesting bit of americana
[11:30] <taoscotch> soundray : i looked in the back and i also searched the net for pictures of jumpers and switches etc. i found mine has some pins in set of twos and the last one the thrid one has a green colored plastic coating sorta thing on it.
[11:31] <rambo3> A sophisticated KDE cd burning application
[11:31] <rambo3>  . o we want $$$ for QT , ok no one is buying it lets make it free so we dont look like idiots
[11:31] <Stormx2> navarone: Everything there requires a newer version of a package that isn't in the repos
[11:31] <vassilis> 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[11:31] <vassilis>                      MSI K8N Diamond MB [SB0438]  at 0xde00 irq 16
[11:31] <Okay> hi
[11:31] <tonyyarusso> Hi Okay.
[11:32] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Yes, if you use the "mbox" format. Thunderbird does not recognize the "Maildir" format. The the limitation to the "mbox" format it is safe for only one program to access your mail at a time
[11:32] <Okay> hi tonyyarusso
[11:32] <Sh4d0x> soundray, status: installings, seems to be a nice tool
[11:32] <crimsun> vassilis: that's not incorrect.
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Okay, that won't be a problem.
[11:32] <soundray> taoscotch, the green thing is a jumper. You need to find out whether it is configured as a master or slave at present. Once you know, toggle the state.
[11:32] <picasso> hey, for some reason when i mount -t ntfs /dev/sda2 /mnt/drivec, i can't get it to be readable by users. i tried using disk manager through gnome too, same result
[11:32] <vassilis> no it's not you're right, still...
[11:32] <picasso> how can i mount my NTFS volume so that users can read files?
[11:32] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Looks like I have a wee bit of reading to do!
[11:32] <soundray> Sh4d0x, if only it didn't need all those KDE dependencies.
[11:33] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Yeah ^^ Mail is fun.
[11:33] <crimsun> vassilis: see my amendment at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7339
[11:33] <crimsun> vassilis: so now I need your amixer output
[11:33] <Okay> how can i hyde the version of ssh when a telnet sesion is opened plz?
[11:34] <theine> what's up with http://planet.ubuntulinux.org/
[11:34] <Keyseir> I'm trying to install something that requires a regular user to change premissions for files used for the installation. It can't be installed by the super user or root user because it's set up to only work for the user that installs it, and can't be used  by the su. How can I install like this?
[11:34] <soundray> tonyyarusso, I had bad experiences trying to access one mbox with more than one email program.
[11:34] <theine> ?
[11:34] <crimsun> Okay: you'd have to edit the openssh-server source and recompile it.
[11:34] <Sh4d0x> soundray, but there aren't that much differences between kde and gnome, or?
[11:34] <rambo3> move the window to the left on the screen so that you dont see the half of terminal , nad you wont see the version
[11:34] <picasso> anybody can help me mount ntfs partition so that i can access it w/ user acct?
[11:34] <j3di> picasso: if you make a seperate partition thats FAT32, your windows box could read and write to it as well as your linux users..:)
[11:34] <soundray> tonyyarusso, consider retrieving your mail twice, leaving it on the server the first time round.
[11:34] <vassilis> one step at a time
[11:35] <soundray> tonyyarusso, once for mutt, once for tbird.
[11:35] <picasso> j3di, not what i'm looking for..
[11:35] <Okay> crimsun, that sux
[11:35] <picasso> i want users to be able to read.
[11:35] <vassilis> crimsun: what should I do with the amendment?
[11:35] <timfrost> Keyseir, where in the filesystem is it trying to install?
[11:35] <picasso> not worried about r/w, and also not interested in using fat32
[11:35] <soundray> Sh4d0x, from a user's point of view, they differ in approach, but not in power.
[11:35] <crimsun> vassilis: I just let you know what I need next
[11:35] <vassilis> and how can I see the amixer uotput?
[11:35] <rambo3> picasso maby there is entry for fstab in ubuntu wiki
[11:35] <Keyseir> timfrost: /home/$user/
[11:35] <picasso> i just want to read my c: drive so that i can run IE w/ wine
[11:35] <crimsun> vassilis: type amixer in a terminal
[11:35] <fiona> Anyone else problems with Xorg 7.0 "not executable"?
[11:35] <j3di> picasso: then why are you using ntfs?
[11:35] <navarone> j3di are your windows partitions mounting?
[11:36] <soundray> Sh4d0x, if you have a gnome system, installing a single KDE program is fairly expensive in terms of disk space.
[11:36] <Keyseir> timfrost: I can install it anywhere if a different location will solve the problem, though
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> soundray: And you were trying to access it with the two programs but at separate times?
[11:36] <theine> Okay, what feature of openssh are you looking for?
[11:36] <picasso> j3di: fat32 is archaeic and terrible
[11:36] <soundray> tonyyarusso, yes.
[11:36] <j3di> mine are mounting perfectly yes..
[11:36] <picasso> plus, i dont want to modify my windows install, it's default from my laptop vendor
[11:36] <picasso> all iw ant to do is mount it read-only so that i can access dll's and exe's
[11:36] <picasso> for wine.
[11:36] <soundray> tonyyarusso, admittedly, it was mutt and evolution, when the latter was still in alpha.
[11:36] <vassilis> crimsun: pastebinned it!
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Hrm.  Okay, will keep that in mind.
[11:36] <timfrost> Keyseir, what does ls -ld /home/$user show?
[11:37] <j3di> i figure if you can read and write to it.. it cant be that terrible
[11:37] <tweek888> Hello, is there a guide to creating a .deb package for ubuntu?
[11:37] <rambo3> then you dont need linux , use windows
[11:37] <picasso> heh
[11:37] <navarone> picasso...can you paste your fstab contents in pastebin ?
[11:37] <Sh4d0x> soundray, ai, i'm running gnome, isn't there a usefull gnome version to create cd projects, since kde can handle more, mayB i should try kubuntu
[11:37] <picasso> navarone, it's not in fstab, im doing this manually
[11:37] <talisein> tonyyarusso, Take a look at the screenshots for slphyeed and slphyeed-claws. It recognizes the Maildir format and is pretty robust in other ways too
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> tweek888: If you find it, let me know.  I've been wondering how to make a metapackage.
[11:37] <glacious> holy crap.  Ubuntu ROCKS.
[11:37] <Keyseir> timfrost: drwxrwxrwx  79 andrew andrew 4096 2006-01-18 17:30 /home/andrew
[11:37] <picasso> perhaps you could point me to the proper fstab entry. trying to find now on wik
[11:37] <Agiofws> ok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boots ?
[11:37] <carl> noob to Ubuntu, everything works but my printer which the job queue says it recieves the job, appears to "print" it then job clears but no paper comes from the printer, any ideas, what other info might you need?
[11:37] <soundray> Sh4d0x, k3b will run okay in a gnome environment in my experience.
[11:37] <crimsun> vassilis: no wonder, you mixer levels are set to 0 [out of 100] 
[11:37] <navarone> picasso then what command options are you using in mount?
[11:37] <tweek888> tonyyarusso, ok
[11:37] <Agiofws> ok booting ubuntu does a fsck on every partition  and stops and asks me to continue control -D  or enter roots passwords  how do i stop this during boot ?
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Okay.
[11:38] <picasso> no options
[11:38] <glacious> it even got the front play/pause/mute/vol +- to work AUTOMATICALLY in my laptop.
[11:38] <picasso> which options shall i use?
[11:38] <glacious> go Ubuntu! =)
[11:38] <taoscotch> soundray : i did change the cdrom to  slave but i did it with a pair or really small tongs, is that ok.
[11:38] <hen3rz> is ubuntu forums working for anyone?????
[11:38] <talisein> tonyyarusso, but I've never used it (I'm happy with just mutt), so I can't necessarily 'endorse' it ;)
[11:38] <soundray> Sh4d0x, the reservations I have are more of a theoretical point of view.
[11:38] <crimsun> vassilis: you need to increase 'Analog Front' (and possibly 'Analog Center/LFE', 'Analog Rear', and 'Analog Side' if you use surround)
[11:38] <navarone> !diskmounter
[11:38] <ubotu> diskmounter is probably to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, absolutely.
[11:38] <picasso> gracioas
[11:38] <glacious> is the default Ubuntu user also a 'super user', because i can update, config stuff etc...
[11:38] <navarone> picasso try that url and see if it suits your purpose
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, I hope this was the right thing to do.
[11:38] <carl> hen3rx: forums down for me too
[11:38] <uber_spaced> my gaim stops during "screen name sent"
[11:38] <picasso> hrm no response from server D:
[11:38] <uber_spaced> is this a common issue with the default install from ubuntu?
[11:38] <soundray> taoscotch, I mean, I hope it works now.
[11:38] <hen3rz> carl. k thanks
[11:39] <vassilis> crimsun: how do i do this? from GNOME I can;t get it out of "mute"
[11:39] <Sh4d0x> soundray, aha, but as long as it works it's fine with me, and atm it's burning at 9.52 speed :D
[11:39] <talisein> glacious, by default, all administrative is done through "sudo"... thats why it asks for your password
[11:39] <Keyseir> timfrost: what does that tell you?
[11:39] <crimsun> vassilis: you can use alsamixer in the terminal
[11:39] <CrAzYoNi> Hello all
[11:39] <soundray> taoscotch, it could still be that your HD needs to be configured for the presence of a slave.
[11:40] <crimsun> vassilis: I have a meeting in less than 8 minutes, so I need to run
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> talisein: Looks like that's solely GUI, no?  I actually quite like Thunderbird, I'm just investigating text-only apps pretty much for kicks.
[11:40] <CrAzYoNi> I tried to add some script into /etc/init.d though I can't run it even though I'm as root, how can I make a shell file to be act as script that can be run?
[11:40] <navarone> hmmm..yeah no response picasso...try again later
[11:40] <crimsun> vassilis: those instructions should fix "no audible sound"
[11:40] <taoscotch> soundray : atleast the computer booted this time and registered both the hardrive and cdrom
[11:40] <soundray> taoscotch, there is also a worst-case possibility that the HD and CD drives are completely incompatible. But the only way to find out is to try.
[11:40] <talisein> tonyyarusso, yes, a GUI--basically a thunderbird replacement, if you could stand switching.
[11:40] <Agiofws> how do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?
[11:40] <vassilis> crimsun: thanks, i dont't know how to work alsamixer but i'll figure sth out
[11:40] <soundray> taoscotch, excellent, that is good news.
[11:40] <vassilis> thanks a lot
[11:40] <glacious> talisein: but with my 'normal' user created during install, i can install patches and updates...
[11:40] <navarone> ctrl-d?
[11:40] <timfrost> Keyseir, those permissions mean that the install should be able to create its files/directories in your home directory.  I assume you are running the install as the user.
[11:40] <taoscotch> soundray : i will be back in a second i want to put the boot disk before it reboots again
[11:41] <Telemachus> CrAzYoNi: chmod 777 <filename>
[11:41] <CrAzYoNi> thx
[11:41] <soundray> taoscotch, your CD will be on hdb (I reckon it was hdc while in the newer laptop).
[11:41] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?
[11:41] <Yango> what's the package for developing client sendmail apps?
[11:41] <crimsun> vassilis: left or right arrows to move between elements, up and down arrows to increase or decrease, 'm' to mute or unmute
[11:41] <Keyseir> timfrost: yes I am, let me pastebin the error message to you. maybe you can make sense of it.
[11:41] <Yango> i see nothing like sendmail-dev in apt-cache search
[11:41] <talisein> glacious, yes. "sudo" allows a normal user to use superuser abilities to execute a single command
[11:41] <vassilis> crimsun:thanks again
[11:41] <Agiofws> how do i stop ubuntu asking me to press control-D to continue booting ?
[11:41] <CrAzYoNi> Thanks a lot, what is the meanning of chmod 777?
[11:41] <vassilis> crimsun:have a nice meeting
[11:42] <vassilis> (whatever)
[11:42] <hen3rz> crayzyoni it set permissions for that file
[11:42] <talisein> Agiofws, Is it complaining that a partition is dirty, or what?
[11:42] <glacious> talisein: but i never even set a 'root' password, nor did i ever type the password to use sudo to perform the updates.
[11:42] <hen3rz> crayzyoni its the same as right lciking and selecting the permissions tab and selecting the boxes
[11:42] <Telemachus> CrAzYoNi: best to open a terminal and type 'man chmod'....that will explain it
[11:43] <carl> could I ask a hopefully quick will not print question?
[11:43] <glacious> what is the default root password in Ubuntu 5.10?
[11:43] <vassilis> crimsun:WORKS!
[11:43] <vassilis> bye
[11:43] <fiona> Found the problem : /etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc refers to X but should refer to Xorg...
[11:43] <hen3rz> what IRC clients do u guys use?
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell glacious about root
[11:43] <Agiofws> talisein,  maybe
[11:43] <CrAzYoNi> ok, thank you :-)
[11:43] <Agiofws> but how do i overcome this ?
[11:43] <Agiofws> delete it ?
[11:43] <talisein> glacious, there is no root password, sudo uses the user's own password. which is weird if you're used to the old way, true enough :)... I think that ubuntu "remembers" your sudo privledges for 5 minutes or so. i'm not sure
[11:43] <glacious> crimsun: wow.  no thank you? =)
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> hen3rz: Had been in XChat, right now I'm trying irssi.
[11:44] <glacious> talisein: yes, very weird :)
[11:44] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change remote desktop settings through the use of terminal only?
[11:44] <hen3rz> tonyyarusso, yeah im using xhcat
[11:44] <soundray> talisein, too short in any case.
[11:44] <hen3rz> tonyyarusso, just wondering what else was out there
[11:44] <NatureTM> hi, I love ubuntu, but I've been having some issues:the first is that when I boot into windows, nvidia drivers get messed up and xserver fails to load
[11:44] <Keyseir> timfrost: the problem seems like it may have disappeared, I'll have to get back to you.
[11:44] <glacious> just wondering how i install packages, remove stuff ,edit configs etc... without the root password.
[11:44] <akari> Hi, what su password for ubuntu???
[11:44] <taoscotch> soundray
[11:44] <soundray> taoscotch, hello
[11:45] <taoscotch> soundray : i got through the boot and root disk, will be back in a sec
[11:45] <talisein> Agiofws, I'd take the time to run e2fsck or reiserfsck or whatever on the drive that is complaining
[11:45] <NatureTM> noone's heard of my problem?
[11:45] <Telemachus> glacious: sudo -i will give you a root prompt in a terminal
[11:45] <soundray> taoscotch, that's great. I'm going to be away soon...
[11:45] <Agiofws> talisein,  i tried  it does not fix the problem
[11:45] <Agiofws> though
[11:45] <glacious> Telemachus: ahh, perfect :)  ty.
[11:45] <Agiofws> ist an old vfat partition
[11:46] <glacious> Telemachus: so you never use or set a root password in Ubuntu
[11:46] <diesel> NatureTM: your question does not make sense
[11:46] <soundray> NatureTM, check your /var/log/Xorg.0.log for error messages.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> glacious: But for most things, everything you named, you don't need a root terminal.
[11:46] <Agiofws> ?
[11:46] <timfrost> Keyseir, OK.  I am going off-line for a while.  Will check with you when I come back online.
[11:46] <NatureTM> thanks i needed the name of that log
[11:46] <diesel> NatureTM: when you boot into windows...your xserver fails?
[11:46] <Telemachus> glacious: there i no need...although you can if you like....but its not regarded as good practice
[11:46] <NatureTM> yes
[11:46] <Keyseir> timfrost: awesome, thanks.
[11:46] <tonyyarusso> glacious: Just prepend sudo to the commands (i.e. sudo apt-get install packagename, sudo rm filename, etc.)
[11:46] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i guess i'm just used to the old system.  to install any system-wide packages i always needed root
[11:46] <Agiofws> talisein, ?
[11:46] <NatureTM> but i can't see the output
[11:47] <talisein> Agiofws, I think there's an option you can add to your fstab that will tell it to not check the drive
[11:47] <Stormx2> alsa has died on me. how do I restart her?
[11:47] <soundray> NatureTM, do you mean the X window system?
[11:47] <NatureTM> screen is just black
[11:47] <talisein> Agiofws, I'm looking it up :)
[11:47] <navarone> NatureTM, then I think that means it is running normally...<s>
[11:47] <Agiofws> talisein,  ok
[11:47] <NatureTM> x server i think
[11:47] <tonyyarusso> glacious: Seems to be common with people who have been doing it for a while, from what I hear.
[11:47] <Agiofws> thanks though
[11:47] <glacious> tonyyarusso: guess things change :)  then so will i.  thank you.
[11:47] <hen3rz> ubuntuforums is back up :D
[11:47] <NatureTM> lol i must have miscommunicated
[11:47] <glacious> Telemachus: awesome.  thank you :)
[11:47] <NatureTM> lemme just check that log file
[11:47] <soundray> Stormx2, alsa is she now, that's poetic :) /etc/init.d/alsa restart
[11:48] <mwe> glacious: sudo runs stuff with root permissions. by default anyone in the admin group can use sudo for anything
[11:48] <czr> does anyone know any good replacement for esd?
[11:48] <manicka> hen3rz, not for me
[11:48] <Sh4d0x> i'm off for some sleep, cya all tomorrow  ... soundray thnx man for helping ... sleepwell  xXx
[11:48] <czr> good as in allows sample caching and network operation
[11:48] <AbZ> uh, yeah. Would anyone be willing ot help me out for a sec
[11:48] <akari> how do i use sodu ___
[11:48] <AbZ> Im such a noob
[11:48] <soundray> Sh4d0x, all the best.
[11:48] <Stormx2> /etc/init.d/alsa: Warning: Use the alsa-utils initscript instead.
[11:48] <Telemachus> tonyyarusso:  I've been a Unix/linux user for 12 years and find sudo very very strange.....I must confess that I use a root password
[11:48] <Syuusuke> sodu? or sudo?
[11:48] <diesel> AbZ: go ahead and ask
[11:48] <navarone> Stormx2, is Alsa blonde with a Swedish accent? lol
[11:48] <Stormx2> lmao
[11:49] <akari> sudo
[11:49] <tweek888> Syuusuke, it's sudo
[11:49] <hen3rz> manicka, it was working... the main page laoded now a sub forum wont load...
[11:49] <NatureTM> what's the other log file x server lets you see whenb it fails other than /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:49] <Syuusuke> yeah i know lol, just that the person typed out sodu and i was wondering if its sudo
[11:49] <soundray> Telemachus, I used Linux for *even longer* :) and I got used to sudo.
[11:49] <tonyyarusso> Telemachus: Well, I'm not going to be the one to argue with you, since you have 25 times my experience, but given what I've heard in hear before I'll let someone else do it. :)
[11:49] <AbZ> yeah, I m working on downloading aim and I have to log onto root
[11:49] <talisein> I use su with the understanding that I have to sleep in my own bed ;)
[11:49] <Syuusuke> akari, what about sudo?
[11:49] <AbZ> And I have no clue how
[11:50] <ompaul> Telemachus, I have have now had a unix or linux account for 11 years - emm sudo is more natural once you do it for a week :) advantage you are not sitting there doing rm without typing sudo unless your actually type rm :-)
[11:50] <taoscotch> soundray : thanxs to you i now(almost)  have debian 3.0 sarge on my very very old ast advantage 625 and i use the dell inspiron 5160 with ubuntu the latest edition. i have tried many different distros now and then, but the longest i have been with any distro is ubuntu(debianish kinda ) cool. thanks a lot again.
[11:50] <mwe> I've used linux for 75 years and I think sudo rocks
[11:50] <ompaul> Telemachus, with the sudo (not well explained)
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> So now we have a little contest going for who's been using Linux longest, eh?
[11:50] <Stormx2> uhg
[11:50] <Stormx2> so
[11:50] <Stormx2> restarting alsa didn't bring my sound back
[11:50] <ompaul> mwe, sudo was developed about 25 years ago :-)
[11:50] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Now that one I find just a tad hard to believe....
[11:50] <Stormx2> *sigh* i wish ubuntu wouldn't do this
[11:51] <Stormx2> after a while the sound just cuts out and stops.
[11:51] <soundray> mwe, what kernel version was teleported to you back in time 75 years ago? :)
[11:51] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Not to mention computers...
[11:51] <AbZ> ?
[11:51] <diesel> AbZ: In order to install in Linux you must be the root user...this is for security pruposes
[11:51] <navarone> sudo makes sense security wise on a multi user set up...an intruder would have to determine exactly which user can use sudo in order to compromise the system. More users makes it more difficult.
[11:51] <AbZ> okay
[11:51] <AbZ> and I do this how
[11:51] <talisein> Agiofws, the fstab entry for your drive doesn't have a 1 at the end of it does it?
[11:51] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, he was programming cards on a loom back then :)
[11:51] <diesel> AbZ: sudo!
[11:51] <AbZ> gah....
[11:51] <Syuusuke> sudo powah
[11:51] <Agiofws> talisein,  nope
[11:52] <diesel> !root
[11:52] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[11:52] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I would have liked to see that.
[11:52] <navarone> Some mac os's used sudo I think as well
[11:52] <AbZ> sudo? hwo exactly do i do this? I just got this system a few days ago
[11:52] <Stormx2> AbZ: using sudo, you just put sudo before a command. Like "sudo gedit" instead of "gedit"
[11:52] <AbZ> ah
[11:52] <soundray> taoscotch, glad I could help. Good luck!
[11:52] <AbZ> alright then
[11:52] <diesel> AbZ: take a look at what ubotu just said
[11:52] <CalamityX> hello
[11:52] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[11:52] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:52] <Agiofws> talisein, /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hda4       /media/hda4     ext3    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hdb1       /media/hdb1     vfat    defaults,noauto        0       0
[11:52] <Agiofws> /dev/hdb2       /media/hdb2     ext2    defaults,noauto        0       2
[11:52] <mwe> ompaul: sudo is really that old (25 years) I had no idea
[11:52] <Agiofws> i should put 0
[11:52] <Agiofws> i think
[11:52] <flhuillery> :)
[11:52] <glacious> is there a way to absolutely force the screen refresh rate?  because no matter what i do, i tries 85, and my monitor displays an error box constantly over the desktop.
[11:53] <tweek888> ummm
[11:53] <Telemachus> ompaul:  I'm a network admin and am very careful with what I'm doing.
[11:53] <talisein> Agiofws,  yeah, 0 should stop it. It still complains even though its set noauto??
[11:53] <fireonyx> anyone know of how to ignore certian updates?  have a newer kernel, and dont need the ones up now.
[11:53] <tweek888> what is the proper command to use ubotu?
[11:53] <CalamityX> what is the default root password after the install ?
[11:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> fireonyx: You could use the 'lock version' feature in synaptic.
[11:53] <mwe> glacious: put in the correct values for HorizSync and VertRefresh in xorg.conf
[11:53] <ompaul> CalamityX, there is none, use sudo
[11:53] <soundray> Telemachus, you are a network admin! That makes you different, of course.
[11:53] <tweek888> CalamityX, it is yours
[11:53] <tweek888> meh
[11:53] <ompaul> !tell CalamityX about sudo
[11:53] <glacious> mwe: i've done that, from manufacturer specs
[11:53] <Syuusuke> what does sudo stand for btw?
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: and maybe play with modelines. there's an online generator
[11:54] <talisein> do as superuser
[11:54] <Syuusuke> oh ic, never knew that
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: nothing i do to xorg.conf shows any change in the menu in gnome, always shows 85hz, thats all
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: google modeline generator
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: also tried that generator :)
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: oh
[11:54] <glacious> mwe: i exhaust my options, then come here for help =(
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: yeah
[11:54] <mwe> glacious: well if modelines and sync/refresh options don't help I don't know
[11:55] <glacious> mwe: my monitor still works @ 85hz, it just sets itself to 60hz, and displays an error 100% of the time, but my Gnome desktop is behind it.
[11:55] <mwe> glacious: of course you're sure you configured it to actually use those modelines?
[11:55] <navarone> glacious google your monitor model and find horiz and vert freq...you can then put those in xorg and maybe allow more refresh rates
[11:55] <glacious> mwe: i put the line into the 'Monitor' section.  not sure what else to make it use them.
[11:55] <mwe> glacious: so the monitor itself is complaining?
[11:56] <navarone> glacious I will post my monitor portion of xorg for you to see
[11:56] <ompaul> Telemachus, well, maybe you are careful it helps you be more careful :-) sudo is like a drug, use it for a week and you will be addicted :)
[11:56] <glacious> mwe: yes.  card will only send 85hz.  monitor can only use 75 @ that rez.  so it throttles back, but displays a constant error message.
[11:56] <talisein> glacious, what video driver are you using?
[11:56] <mwe> glacious: can you paste xorg.conf at pastebin?
[11:56] <glacious> navarone: i'd apprediate that.  thank you.  and i have tried going to the website, got the rates.
[11:56] <AbZ> -_-
[11:56] <talisein> !pastebin
[11:56] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:57] <glacious> talisein: not sure? :)
[11:57] <AbZ> I got the basic concept
[11:57] <nerv4012> hi
[11:57] <AbZ> but....
[11:57] <unf> does anyone any internet service that let me sincronize a calendar with my ubuntu?
[11:57] <mwe> glacious: can you paste your xorg.conf at pastebin?
[11:57] <glacious> mwe: yes, i'll have to boot back into Ubuntu, just in it on my laptop now.
[11:57] <AbZ> I'm needing some help as far as the command line goes
[11:57] <talisein> glacious, I was only going to say if you were using the proprietary nvidia drivers (not installed by default) you could use the UseEdidFreqs option
[11:57] <unf> *does anyone know
[11:57] <ompaul> AbZ, put it _all_ on one line so people can follow your thinking easily
[11:58] <glacious> talisein: ahh.  no, it detects my Raedon 9000 as is, and it 'works'.
[11:58] <nerv4012> just a stupid question wich has nothing to do on that channel but, is this correct english : I will make an office/email/web purpose of it ?
[11:58] <mwe> glacious: you're not in linux now?
[11:58] <fireonyx> I take it the forums are down again?
[11:58] <nerv4012> can you say that? or is it not right?
[11:58] <glacious> mwe: booting into it...
[11:58] <talisein> nerv4012, not really, sorry ;)
[11:58] <mwe> ok
[11:58] <ki4ikl> has anyone in here set up a webserver through a wireless belkin router?
[11:58] <fissy> does anyone know about recovering data from a formatted ext3 filesys?
[11:58] <ves> anyone know of any decent backups scripts/utilities? something which would like weekly backup important directories and quietely ask you for a dvdrw or something every now and again?
[11:58] <AbZ> sorry. Im just needing help installing aim on this thing because I dont quite understand how to work the command prompt
[11:58] <ompaul> nerv4012, no, please take that to #ubuntu-topic
[11:59] <ompaul> AbZ, why not use Gaim which can do aim and so much more
[11:59] <nerv4012> ok do you know a discuss channel where i could ask?
[11:59] <nerv4012> sorry :/
[11:59] <ompaul> nerv4012, >> #ubuntu-offtopic<< sorry ~I left out the off
[11:59] <AbZ> I was using gaim but I coudlnt find out whether ti would let me use voice. I wanted to do that
[11:59] <ompaul> ahh