[12:06] <Riddell> JRe: upstream version freeze is tomorrow
[12:06] <Riddell> thursday
[12:07] <Riddell> new pacakges are allowed right enough
[12:44] <allee> Riddell: that's strange.
[12:45] <allee> Riddell: so feel free to upload digikam 0.8.1 later (but without risk to miss deadline ;)
[01:05] <Riddell> Mez: if we did KDE in backports is there some way to make sure they get released on the day of KDE release?
[07:49] <Mez> Riddell: if we did it in backports-  it'd be dependent on it being in version+1 on release
[07:50] <Mez> and also how fast you can get James to process it
[08:11] <Den> Hi - is there a web page telling who is on the ubuntu KDE developers  team, who they are, what their specialty is?
[08:12] <Tm_T> Den: Riddell does have some kind of list, ask from him ;)
[08:12] <Den> Riddell: Are you here?
[08:12] <Tm_T> Den: and hullo, welcome here too ;)
[08:12] <Tm_T> I think he's sleeping
[08:13] <Den> Tm_T: yes, Tanks :)
[08:13] <Tm_T> ask 3h later, prolly better luck
[09:56] <\sh> Riddell: http://mats.imk.fraunhofer.de/pipermail/pykde/2006-January/011994.html -> is fixing most of the problems in pykde
[10:22] <Riddell> \sh: is it available yet?
[10:22] <Riddell> morning chmj 
[10:22] <\sh> I'm waiting for uploads to the servers
[10:22] <\sh> I just woke up, and read my email and had this wonderful message in...
[10:22] <Riddell> "The requested URL /snapshots/PyKDE was not found on this server." fooey
[10:22] <\sh> "uploads to the servers == to riverbank"
[10:22] <\sh> Riddell: yepp
[10:23] <\sh> I'll just asked for a prerelease privatly to me :)
[10:24] <\sh> if it's early enough..and it comes today, I'll package it and upload to dapper...(with short uvf exception from kamion/mdz)
[10:29] <Riddell> \sh: the kmail crash is caused by kubuntu_0066_fcsort2fcmatch.dpatch not immodule
[10:29] <Riddell> freeflying: ^^
[10:30] <\sh> Riddell: but do you have as well amarok crashes. I didn't have anhy problems here, which is a clean dapper :)
[10:32] <sebas> \sh: If a new pykde snapshot goes into dapper, could you warn me as soon as it's available, so I can test guidance with it?
[10:32] <\sh> sebas: sure
[10:32] <sebas> The last one caused some API changes, I may have to adapt a couple of things.
[10:32] <sebas> Thanks!
[10:33] <\sh> sebas: did you read the announcement? I think it's not changing so much from the previous snapshot...but honors some patches the community was asking for. :)
[10:34] <\sh> sebas: what I'm doing anyways is to check all apps depending on pykde...
[10:37] <\sh> sebas: before I upload to dapper :)
[10:41] <sebas> \sh: Ah, even better, feel free to fix our version in svn ;-)
[10:41] <sebas> Serious: let me know, and I'll fix it, we need to adapt for upstream anyway.
[10:42] <\sh> sebas: no problem..and which svn? :)
[10:43] <sebas> kdesvn
[10:45] <sebas> We're in playground/base
[10:48] <\sh> sebas: thx :) do you think guidance will be somehow becoming a default for kde?
[10:50] <Riddell> probably not, it doesn't work with a lot of distributions
[10:51] <\sh> that's sad..because I think kde should have more python apps 
[10:52] <\sh> to be honest, all distributions should be forks of kubuntu ;)
[10:53] <sebas> \sh: I've talked with Ben Meyer about it at akademy, and we're planning to use guidance modules in KDE4.
[10:53] <sebas> So, yes.
[10:54] <\sh> sebas: cool :)
[10:54] <sebas> Riddell: There are no tools that do the job right now, and guidance is easy to adapt.
[10:54] <sebas> It's built with distro independancy in mind, and the only thing that should be distro-specific is serviceconfig/
[10:55] <sebas> Serviceconfig has support for Mandrake, Debian and Gentoo, and others are quite easy to add.
[10:55] <sebas> So, as to Linux, most of the stuff should work without too much effort.
[10:55] <sebas> BSD or other OS'es are another thing, though.
[02:29] <Riddell> yo jjesse 
[02:30] <jjesse> yo Riddell 
[02:30] <Riddell> jjesse: what's the status of kubuntu-docs?  (team meeting today)
[02:30] <jjesse> releasenotes is caught up, starting on quickguide, just added another writer gedde (i think his name is) and he is working on quickguide as well
[02:31] <jjesse> there shouldn't be any changes to about-kubuntu should there?
[02:32] <jjesse> releasenotes are also now available on doc.u.c so people can see what is going to be in dapper for a sneak peak
[02:32] <Riddell> we need to fix the stylesheet in firefox for about-kubuntu
[02:32] <jjesse> ok that is something i don't know how to do
[02:33] <Riddell> no, that's my responsibility :)
[02:33] <Tonio_> hi all
[02:34] <Riddell> hi teprrr 
[02:34] <Riddell> Tonio_: 
[02:34] <\sh> Riddell: did you read the uvf exception report? I think it's enough for colin and matt?
[02:34] <jjesse> morning Tonio_ 
[02:34] <Riddell> \sh: yeah, looks very complete
[02:34] <\sh> good to know :)
[02:35] <jjesse> Riddell: where you talking about doc team meeting today?
[02:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: FYI, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1529 -> modifications required done
[02:37] <Riddell> jjesse: ubuntu developers team meeting, in half an hour in #ubuntu-devel
[02:37] <jjesse> Riddell: ok do you need anything else from me ? do i need to be there?
[02:38] <teprrr> http://tuksutin.d5k.net/~tpr/kubuntu/kboggle/0.4.1/ -- there's a kboggle package if someone wants to test it
[02:38] <Riddell> jjesse: nope, that's great thanks
[02:48] <teprrr> x breakage has been started today?
[02:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: concerning the "too many executable files", would you suggest a bug cdbs patch, a rule entry, or maybe a tarball rebuild ?
[02:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: I'd fix it in .orig
[02:55] <Riddell> Tonio_: ask in #ubuntu-motu, maybe they would prefer to keep it in, it doesn't do any harm after all but it seems really messy to me
[02:56] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay
[02:56] <Riddell> Tonio_: ah, kwin-style-blended is fixed now, lovely :)
[02:56] <Riddell> see also k9copy
[02:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm just doing it ;)
[02:58] <Tonio_> Riddell: I feel so sad not beeing able to package ktechlab......
[02:59] <Riddell> Tonio_: what's up with it?
[02:59] <jjesse> Riddell: are kubuntu-docs not included in dapper yet?
[02:59] <Tonio_> there is a crappy dependancy, in both sid and dapper, reported via a malone bug....
[02:59] <Riddell> jjesse: certainly are
[02:59] <\sh> building pykde3
[03:00] <Tonio_> [12:51]  <Tonio_> The following packages have unmet dependencies: 
[03:00] <Tonio_> [12:51]  <Tonio_>   gpsim-dev: Depends: gpsim (= 0.20.14-7.2) but it is not going to be installed 
[03:00] <Tonio_> [12:51]  <Tonio_> E: Broken packages 
[03:00] <\sh> Tonio_: which bug?
[03:00] <Tonio_> malone bug #5777 talks about that
[03:00] <jjesse> When I click on release notes in konq I get "there is no documentation available for /khelpcenter/kubuntu/kreleasenotes/C/index.html
[03:00] <jjesse> from the "main" screen in konq
[03:02] <\sh> Tonio_: and broken in sid, too?
[03:02] <Tonio_> \sh: yep, I tried in a chroot, same problem
[03:03] <\sh> Tonio_: but it's build as http://people.ubuntu.com/~lamont/buildLogs/g/gpsim/0.20.14-7.2/ shows...so something else is wrong
[03:04] <Tonio_> \sh: yes the package is refered to exist
[03:07] <Tonio_> \sh: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/electronics/gpsim
[03:07] <Tonio_> \sh: you can see it is there, even browse the dep content, everything seems to be fine, but impossible to install....
[03:08] <Tonio_> \sh I also tried to pbuild it from source, there was an error....
[03:08] <\sh> Tonio_: try apt-get -s install gpsim and you see the problem
[03:08] <Tonio_> \sh: the only explanation I have it that the debian source package has been modified without version increment.........
[03:08] <Tonio_> \sh: ok
[03:09] <\sh> libgtkextras16 is not available
[03:10] <Tonio_> \sh: yes.......... but it should have been, because the package has been build a few weeks ago apparently.....;;
[03:10] <\sh> Tonio_: but it's not available :) can be that it was removed in the meantime
[03:11] <Tonio_> \sh: true.... what's the best thing to do according to you ? that's a SID problem apparently........
[03:11] <\sh> Tonio_: try to rebuild the package without this dependency..if it's not working poke seb128 or dholbach our gtk/gnome experts :)
[03:11] <Tonio_> it works without that dep..... but that's a big feature missing.........
[03:11] <\sh> or find a way to replace this build-dep
[03:12] <\sh> or try libgtkextra17 :)
[03:12] <\sh> which is available :)
[03:13] <Tonio_> so repackaging gpsim, then get it revued, then packaging ktechlab........; ok ;)
[03:15] <Riddell> hello perofal 
[03:15] <perofal> hello
[03:15] <perofal> :)
[03:15] <perofal> whats up?
[03:16] <\sh> Tonio_: forget it..I'll try to replace the dependency with the new one..it's a bug fix and can be uploaded directly if it works
[03:16] <\sh> Tonio_: or try to do it, and send me a debdiff for gpsim to sh@sourcecode.de
[03:16] <\sh> I
[03:16] <\sh> I'm fixing up pykde new snapshot now and finally ran into problems
[03:16] <perofal> Ridell : perofal = poimen
[03:21] <jjesse> Riddell: did you see my note about documentation?
[03:21] <Riddell> jjesse: yes, busy.. team meeting
[03:21] <jjesse> Riddell: sorry forgot
[03:22] <sebas> Gasfornuins vond ik het leukste.
[03:22] <sebas> Aansluiten, duimen dat de boel niet ontploft :)
[03:22] <sebas> Ouch, wrong channel.
[03:24] <Tonio_> Riddell: there was a problem while uploading kwin-style-blended.......
[03:25] <Tonio_> files where not overwritten in revu........ I'm reuploading
[03:31] <perofal> Ridell : I have a launch pad acount, now I just need to kwon what documentation is needed to be translated or updated  I can help with that   but I need how to do it
[03:32] <Tonio_> Riddell: FYI, kwin-style-blended is now fine on revu ;)
[03:48] <\sh> gnarf
[03:49] <\sh> think upstream forgot an #include <X11/X.h> in some of their files...
[03:49] <\sh> grmpf...it was documented before
[03:53] <\sh> finally it's building
[04:00] <jjesse> perofal: are you looking to help out w/ kubuntu documetnation?
[04:06] <\sh> oh well...
[04:06] <\sh> kde 3.15.1 will be the next official stable release when kde 3.5.1 is out....
[04:08] <\sh> ah well pykde 3.15.1
[04:08] <\sh> i mean
[04:24] <sebas> Riddell: Did anything come out of your kpowersave inquiry?
[04:30] <\sh> sebas: hey...I just finished to build the new pykde version...give me a hint what should I test with kde-guidance?
[04:31] <\sh> I should try to build kde-guidance and pykdeextensions
[04:31] <sebas> \sh: Just start one of the modules directly from python should reveal problems.
[04:32] <sebas> If something breaks, it's quite likely that the breakage is fatal.
[04:32] <\sh> sebas: how do I do that..I'm not working with the python shell normally :)
[04:32] <sebas> Do you have a pykde package handy?
[04:32] <sebas> If could check here.
[04:32] <\sh> sebas: I can upload ... just a sec
[04:33] <\sh> sebas: latest dapper?
[04:33] <sebas> That's for dapper?
[04:33] <\sh> sebas: yepp
[04:33] <sebas> I'm running breezy on this machine though, but might still work.
[04:33] <\sh> sebas: kde 3.5 packages for breezy from riddell?
[04:33] <sebas> yeah.
[04:33] <\sh> should work
[04:33] <sebas> Fine.
[04:35] <\sh> let me quickly upload this stuff
[04:38] <\sh> sebas: http://ubuntu.linux-server.org/index.php?path=pykde
[04:41] <sebas> :*
[04:41] <perofal> jjesse : yes
[04:42] <perofal> jjesse : kubuntu - ubuntu documentation as well
[04:42] <jjesse> perofal: awesome we need help on kubuntu documentation, have you looked at the docteam wiki pages?
[04:42] <perofal> nope
[04:43] <jjesse> wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamGettingStarted i think is the best spot to look, also wiki.ubuntu.com/DocteamProjects shows a list of things we are working on
[04:43] <\sh> sebas: is the download working?
[04:43] <perofal> jjesse thankx
[04:44] <sebas> \sh: The download is, but the packages don't install due to dependency problems.
[04:44] <jjesse> perofal: no problem, feel free to hit me w/ question or join #ubuntu-dc
[04:44] <jjesse> #ubuntu-doc sorry bout that
[04:44] <sebas> Give me a couple of yours, I'll try at home where I have a dapper chroot
[04:45] <\sh> sebas: argl
[04:45] <\sh> sebas: give me a short clue about "starting the module from python shell" :))
[04:45] <sebas> locate serviceconfig.py
[04:46] <sebas> And then sudo python serviceconfig.py
[04:46] <sebas> Same with mountconfig.py, userconfig.py
[04:46] <sebas> And maybe displayconfig.py, but that one may be broken.
[04:46] <\sh> starting
[04:46] <perofal> jjesse ok
[04:47] <\sh> sebas: Couldn't load file: [Errno 2]  No such file or directory: '/var/tmp/guidance-packagedescriptioncache'
[04:47] <Riddell> sebas: no replies yet
[04:47] <sebas> Riddell: Ok.
[04:47] <Riddell> sebas: do you have an opinion?
[04:47] <sebas> \sh: cd into that directory?
[04:47] <\sh> sebas: trying to fetch the descriptions :)
[04:47] <sebas> Riddell: It looks nice (and I have a vague idea how ugly klaptopdaemon is)
[04:47] <sebas> \sh: ok
[04:47] <\sh> sebas: it's there
[04:47] <\sh> works
[04:47] <Tonio_> \sh: didn't you uploaded "prozilla" ? http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1172
[04:48] <Tonio_> \sh: can't find it in the archives
[04:48] <sebas> So it works, without backtraces?
[04:48] <\sh> without backtraces...
[04:49] <\sh> last message 
[04:49] <\sh> Double QObject deletion detected.
[04:49] <\sh> *** glibc detected *** corrupted double-linked list: 0x0843e4d8 ***
[04:49] <\sh> Alarm clock
[04:50] <\sh> displayconfig is backtracing
[04:50] <\sh>  File "displayconfig.py", line 1134, in __init__
[04:50] <\sh>     self.current_screen = self.xsetup.getUsedScreens()[0] 
[04:50] <\sh> IndexError: list index out of range
[04:50] <\sh> last 3 lines
[04:50] <\sh> userconfig mountconfig all working
[04:51] <sebas> Ok, displayconfig is "under construction", although Sime might be interested in that.
[04:52] <\sh> sebas: which bts?
[04:52] <sebas> Those message indicates that hardware detection is buggy (and that depends a lot on drivers and graphics hardware)
[04:52] <sebas> To: simon@simonzone.com, Cc: sebas@kde.org :-)
[04:52] <\sh> sebas: one minute :)
[04:54] <\sh> sebas: send
[04:55] <sebas> \sh: THanks,
[04:56] <\sh> sebas: ok :) so we can agree, that this version is not breaking kde guidance :)
[04:56] <sebas> Sime will probably get back to you requesting xorg.conf, some more logs, and the content of /mnt/pr0n
[04:56] <sebas> \sh: I agree until further notice :-)
[04:56] <\sh> sebas: cool..:) so I can update our releng :)
[04:56] <sebas> "releng" is what?
[04:57] <\sh> sebas: sime is welcome to get my collection of all naked linux chicks :)
[04:57] <sebas> Or: WTF RELEGNN!!!!!!!!?????????????1111111111 ;-)
[04:57] <\sh> sebas: you too :)
[04:57] <\sh> release engineers :) or release managers :) 
[04:57] <sebas> sudo apt-get install \sh-chicks
[04:57] <sebas> Aye !
[04:58] <sebas> Unrelated: What is linux-server.org ?
[04:58] <sebas> Does that relate to some IRC channel on euirc?
[04:59] <\sh> sebas: no..it's my domain only :) running jabberservices :) jabber servers are: jabberme.{org,net,de},sourcecode.de,kde-coder.de,linux-server.org :)
[04:59] <sebas> Ok :)
[05:00] <\sh> feel free to use it :) when you are in need of a free jabber account :)
[05:00] <sebas> Sure :)
[05:00] <\sh> and sebas@kde-coder.de sounds nice :)
[05:01] <sebas> I already got my weekly additional emailaddress though :P
[05:01] <\sh> sebas: it's a jabber id :) not email :)
[05:29] <Riddell> tvo: could you do me a debdiff for the katapult package in dapper for that 28923 beastie?
[05:30] <tvo> Riddell: sure, but not now. tomorrow is ok though
[05:30] <Riddell> groovy
[05:30] <Riddell> allee: we have our UVF exception for digikam, shall I upload?
[05:31] <\sh> Riddell: pykde is approved for upload...
[05:31] <Riddell> \sh: great
[05:32] <sebas> \sh: Didn't use jabber until now, and not really planning :)
[05:33] <sebas> I rarely login to my other IM thingies.
[05:33] <Riddell> \sh: kde-hal-device-manager is another package which uses pykde
[05:33] <\sh> Riddell: damn...I forgot that...but is it in main?
[05:33] <Riddell> \sh: no
[05:34] <\sh> ah ok...but I'll test it just now :) when pykde finally build on this amd64
[05:34] <nlindblad> good afternoon
[05:34] <Riddell> hi nlindblad 
[05:35] <Riddell> where was the trip to?
[05:37] <Riddell> Tonio_: I'll upload kwin-style-blended but it might be nice to include the associated colour theme in the p
[05:37] <Riddell> the package
[05:37] <Tonio_> right
[05:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: can you wait a bit ?
[05:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: sure :)
[05:38] <Tonio_> I may have time to do that toonight
[05:38] <Tonio_> Riddell: I didn't thought about hat, but that'sa nice idea
[05:41] <tvo> hmm, why is initscripts not in malone?
[05:41] <tvo> or rather, in which package is /etc/init.d/mountall.sh if it's not initscripts? (which is what dpkg says)
[05:42] <\sh> tvo: it is..sourcepackage is sysvinit
[05:42] <tvo> \sh: ah ok, thanks
[05:42] <\sh> tvo: and your second question: apt-file search is your friend :)
[05:42] <\sh> tvo: but it's in sysvinit (aka binary package initscripts )
[05:43] <tvo> \sh: ah ok thanks, I was used to dpkg -S for checking which package, but that does something slightly different apparently...
[05:45] <\sh> tvo: well...i'm using apt-file .. I don't use so much dpkg (only for installing testpackages I build :))
[05:55] <tvo> hmm, apt-file returns initscripts too...
[05:56] <tvo> off to dinner now, bye
[06:06] <\sh> Riddell: can we set by default line break at 76 chars for kmail? 
[06:06] <Riddell> \sh: rationale?
[06:07] <\sh> Riddell: as lucas told me now
[06:07] <\sh>  <lucas> rfc1855:
[06:07] <\sh> [18:05]  <lucas> (netiquette)
[06:07] <\sh> [18:05]  <lucas>     - Limit line length to fewer than 65 characters and end a line
[06:07] <\sh> [18:05]  <lucas>       with a carriage return.
[06:09] <Riddell> \sh: 65 seems very short and 76 != 65
[06:10] <\sh> Riddell: yes..> <quoted line> == 80 with 78 chars lb, and 76 > > <quoted line> with 76 chars...but actually I don't care...it was just a question :) 
[06:18] <allee> Riddell: yes, please upload.  Thaaaaaaaaaaaaaaanks a lot!
[06:18] <\sh> allee: congrats for digikam :)
[06:19] <allee> \sh :)
[06:25] <Riddell> teprrr: http://muse.19inch.net/~jr/tmp/kboggle.text
[06:25] <Riddell> teprrr: nothing major, looks nice
[06:25] <Riddell> teprrr: please get an account on revu, ask sirtat on #ubuntu-motu
[06:25] <Riddell> siretart
[06:27] <\sh> teprrr: wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU
[06:27] <\sh> teprrr: send a signed mail to keyring@tiber.tauware.de with your keyid and we will include your key in the REVU keyring
[07:35] <\sh> Riddell: how can we use the cdbs patches of kubuntu for kde .pot files in debhelper maintained packages? :)
[07:38] <allee> \sh: Are you sure you need them?
[07:38] <\sh> allee: well, it would be a cool thing to have all universe kde apps as well on rosetta
[07:39] <\sh> problem is, that some sources are so old, that I can't patch admin dir with Riddell patch 
[07:39] <\sh> and replacing the old admin dir, with a more recent one is sometimes more terrible
[07:40] <allee> \sh for digikam right thing was figured your without the patch.  So at least all (recent?) kde3.5/admin tarballs should work out of the box with rosettafication
[07:40] <\sh> allee: sure..but what about old <3.5 admin dirs?
[07:41] <\sh> 3.4 I can patch, but older then that is a problem
[07:43] <allee> \sh: copy the one funtion used from new admin/cvs.sh and run it?
[07:43] <allee> + as a script included in debian/
[07:43] <\sh> allee: I'll have a look :)
[07:43] <\sh> tomorrow or so...
[07:43] <allee> ;)
[07:46] <allee> \sh: bit of topic, you know what ??? is:  sudo mount -t ??? -o loop /boot/initrd.img-`uname -r` /mnt
[07:46] <allee> not cramfs, not initramfs
[07:46] <\sh> sqashfs eventually?
[07:47] <allee> wrong type :(
[07:51] <\sh> oh moment...
[07:52] <\sh> hehe
[07:52] <\sh> gunzip it first :0
[07:52] <\sh> file initrd.img-* and it tells you "gzipped"
[07:52] <allee> yeah. saw this but did not take the consequences
[07:53] <\sh> *g*
[08:11] <Riddell> \sh: you have to add the extract-messages command to the rules file manually
[08:14] <\sh> Riddell: i'll have a look tomorrow...right now I'm still waiting for pykde *grrr*
[08:14] <Riddell> \sh: on your amd64?
[08:14] <Riddell> shouldn't that be super fast?
[08:15] <\sh> Riddell: yes...I just believed upstream..who said, concatenating source files is 80% faster then single cpp files...and it's truly a lie
[08:16] <\sh> I compiled it today in i386 without this new feature and I was done in one hour..now it's compiling since two hours...on the same machine, but now in 64bit mode...
[08:16] <Riddell> that concatenating source files thing is so evil
[08:18] <\sh> yes..I set the -i switch after finishing this build
[08:18] <\sh> so it doesn't do it anymore
[08:22] <\sh> and then I upload it..so the buildds have some snacks to nibble
[08:31] <\sh> bah...
[08:31] <\sh> kswapd0 eats 70% of my cpu..no wonder
[08:32] <\sh> a load of  load average: 3.93, 3.43, 3.30
[08:32] <\sh> Mem:    512336k total,   506280k used,     6056k free,     2480k buffers
[08:32] <\sh> Swap:  2088408k total,   757240k used,  1331168k free,     6612k cached
[08:32] <\sh> thats pykde
[08:32] <\sh> no x nothing is running on this machine..only pbuilding pykde....funny
[08:42] <hunger_> Is kontact broken(ish) at the moment?
[08:51] <\sh> I think i'm over 40 GiB this month..
[08:52] <\sh> but this month I had the time to watch movies from the early morning to the late night
[08:53] <\sh> anyways..pykde uploaded...
[09:02] <\sh> ok...fixing some other packages and going to bed...
[09:05] <nlindblad> \sh_away: I'm not talking traffic in that sense
[09:06] <nlindblad> 10GiB of seeding the ISOs for Kubuntu
[09:34] <Riddell> hunger: kontact works for me, what's the problem?
[09:36] <allee> revu upload of codeine this morning: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1544.  Should be ready, feel free to check
[09:36] <allee> have to go.  bye
[09:48] <teprrr> Riddell, ah. okay. but um, how should I handle the source depends? need to check them manually then?
[09:49] <teprrr> Riddell, watch was just for testing, yes. and will remove those files. anything else to remove? debhelper version came from cdbs, I think, so that's the problem there indeed
[10:13] <Tm_T> humm, these packages can securely be removed? x-common xorg-common xserver-common
[10:14] <Tm_T> I think yes
[10:16] <Riddell> teprrr: yeah, do them by hand
[10:17] <Tonio_> re
[10:17] <teprrr> Riddell, with pbuilder or..?
[10:18] <Riddell> teprrr: use pbuilder as a final check yes
[10:18] <Tonio_> dapper update isn't that fine actually... I explosed my laptop trying to migrate ;)
[10:18] <Riddell> but cdbs doesn't do anything intelligent, it just adds cdbs and debhelper
[10:18] <Riddell> and for some unknown reason build-essential
[10:21] <teprrr> ah, okay
[10:43] <raphink> night guys :)
[10:45] <Tonio_> Riddell: kwin-style-blended with included color sheme is uploaded