[12:00] <navarone> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7341 <-- glacious
[12:00] <shnapps> k
[12:00] <talisein> AbZ, Google released their API as Open Source, so the next version will have it :)
[12:00] <glacious> test.
[12:00] <AbZ> and I get this how?
[12:00] <shnapps> Is everyone in here currently on a linux run computer?
[12:00] <Telemachus> shnapps: yep
[12:01] <j3di> anyone understand netatalk?
[12:01] <ompaul> AbZ, well I do not know if gaim does voice so sorry I can't help you there, however where did you get your aim from?
[12:02] <talisein> j3di, Like, the old-school *NIX "talk" command?
[12:02] <glacious> there an easy way to enable wireless?  it was detected during install.
[12:02] <AbZ> I can't get it. that is my point. It tells me to log in as root and put in the line to download it, but I dont thouroughly understand how to use the command prompt
[12:02] <superchode> what's the recommended method of installing java?
[12:02] <j3di> no its an appletalk serving capabilty
[12:02] <cafuego> !java
[12:02] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:02] <Telemachus> glacious: talk - those were the days
[12:02] <sorush20> i'm installing gentoo
[12:02] <navarone> glacious if you are using airport extreme wireless I think it has some issues from what I have seen
[12:02] <talisein> j3di, oh, lol, sorry ^^*
[12:02] <cafuego> j3di: netatalk is easy. Install, configure your shares, done.
[12:02] <rackerz> Hello
[12:03] <Kazidhea> Anyone got Nvidia drivers working with Flight3  or are they broken?
[12:03] <glacious> navarone: it's built in intell wireless in a dell laptop.  found that and my ethernet at installation.
[12:03] <j3di> you'd think
[12:03] <glacious> just not sure where wireless is in gnome or how to activate it in console
[12:03] <rackerz> Are the Ubuntuforums down???
[12:03] <j3di> i have it set up..
[12:03] <cafuego> j3di: Seems to work here.
[12:03] <j3di> one of my users see's nothing in the share
[12:03] <navarone> glacious have no wireless so I couldn't say one way or the other
[12:03] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change Gnome's Remote Desktop settings via terminal?
[12:03] <cafuego> glacious: System -> Administration -> Networking
[12:03] <j3di> sees the server, connects, sees the share volume, and once its open.. its empty
[12:04] <cafuego> j3di: check permissions
[12:04] <sam^> hi there
[12:04] <sam^> I want to compile a program using mono, but ./configure doesn't find it
[12:04] <cafuego> j3di: You sharing files with a 9.2 or older mac btw?
[12:04] <j3di> permissions are perfect, works great in ftp, samba, and login in with that account
[12:04] <j3di> yep. 9.1
[12:04] <cafuego> ok
[12:04] <cafuego> (coz OSX does nfs and samba)
[12:05] <glacious> cafuego: ahh thank you sir :)
[12:05] <j3di> which is the same 9.1 mac i'm using from the other account (that works fine.. )
[12:05] <sam^> it says that it cannot find this version, and now I don't know what I have to do - since pkg-config shows me the correct version installed
[12:05] <cafuego> navarone: My airport extreme works fine :-)
[12:05] <cafuego> sam^: You want mono-mcs
[12:05] <cafuego> sam^: and/or the mono-dev packages.
[12:05] <ompaul> AbZ, okay what I see on the aim page is that you can get the TGZ version, this is what I would try, EXCEPT where it asks for you to be root I would do "sudo -i" and execute all the commands given then at the end I would type exit, you do this from a terminal found on the menu, applications, accessories, terminal
[12:06] <glacious> mwe: ok, you wanted my monitor section?
[12:06] <sam^> cafuego, they're installed
[12:06] <sam^> http://pastebin.com/512196 <- this is the output
[12:06] <Qalimas> Is there a way to change Gnome's Remote Desktop settings via terminal?
[12:06] <mwe> glacious: yeah
[12:07] <mwe> glacious: pastebin.com
[12:07] <kristie> how can i get my usb ports to work?
[12:07] <glacious> mwe: http://pastebin.com/512220
[12:07] <kristie> sorry am newbie
[12:08] <mwe> glacious: the sections with resolutions and modelines please
[12:08] <mwe> glacious: Screen and Monitor
[12:09] <mwe> glacious: where are you modelines?
[12:09] <lewweh> hey guys
[12:09] <soundray> kristie, what USB ports? Motherboard? Laptop? Hub?
[12:10] <talisein> kristie, if you "lsmod|grep usb", do you see a line that starts usbcore?
[12:10] <lewweh> can anyone briefly tell me (or link me) to the differences between ubuntu 5.04 and the dapper drake?
[12:10] <kristie> soundray: it is a laptop
[12:10] <decaf> is there an unofficial packages list for ubuntu, like apt-get.org?
[12:10] <Dreamglider> where is souces.list located
[12:10] <glacious> mwe: took them out because they didn't work.
[12:10] <Dreamglider> aources
[12:10] <kristie> toshiba satellite
[12:10] <Dreamglider> sources.list
[12:10] <glacious> mwtooi llkkklkllkklk
[12:10] <mwe> glacious: well they should be in there.
[12:10] <sam^> by the way, I've got version 1.1.8.3 installed
[12:10] <soundray> lewweh: http://lwn.net/Articles/168040/
[12:11] <kristie> talisien i will try
[12:11] <lewweh> ggkthx
[12:11] <soundray> kristie, what USB devices do you have for testing?
[12:11] <sam^> *doh*
[12:12] <CanadianSnow> how do i detect my sound card?
[12:12] <glacious> mwe: ok i'll regen them and add.
[12:12] <kristie> talisein: yes I get usbhid and something about usbcore
[12:12] <navarone> glacious from what I am readin about your monitor the horiz should be 31-83 and vert 55-75 ... maybe try those in monitor section
[12:12] <kristie> soundray i am trying to install my pda
[12:12] <mwe> glacious: you need the correct params for your monitor to put in though
[12:13] <soundray> kristie, that is definitely not a great starting point for a newbie...
[12:13] <talisein> lol
[12:14] <soundray> kristie, you were saying your ports don't work. How did you work that out?
[12:14] <kristie> talisein: usbcore says 3 usbhid,uhci_hcd <--whatis that?
[12:14] <navarone> glacious look for section "screen" in xorg.conf...I think that is what mwe needs to know
[12:14] <kristie> soundray: i dunno *shrugs*
[12:15] <glacious> navarone: ok, so not monitor.
[12:15] <kristie> so is usbhid <--is that my usb?
[12:15] <soundray> kristie, okay, with talisein's tests and in the absence of other USB devices, we should conclude that your ports *probably* are fine.
[12:15] <glacious> mwe: do modelines go under "screen" or "monitor"?
[12:15] <soundray> kristie, what's your PDA make and model?
[12:15] <kristie> soundray: It is a Royal ezVue 5
[12:15] <talisein> kristie, it means that the "usbcore" module (a part of the kernel) is being used by two other kernel modules, usbhid (a module for mice and keyboards etc) and uhci_hcd, which is what the kernel needs to know to talk to USB 1.0. It shows that you're probably fine
[12:16] <mwe> glacious: Monitor
[12:16] <trollinator> hello, can you help me?
[12:16] <navarone> glacious my Screen section show the colour depth and resolutions that are possible
[12:16] <mwe> glacious: you need to make sure the values you add to the generator are valid though
[12:16] <trollinator> my onboard sound doesn't work properly, stereo works but no surround sound :/
[12:16] <Alek35skm> Hi, can I ask one question (I'm newbie on ubuntu)
[12:16] <kristie> talisein: good that is a start...now i need to get the info off my pda :)
[12:17] <glacious> mwe: http://www.pastebin.com/512231
[12:17] <mwe> navarone: he's trying to fix the refresh rate to get a lower one his monitor supports
[12:17] <damg> is it possible to update from 5.10 to 6.04 via apt-get (don't want to download an iso and kill my FS)
[12:17] <glacious> mwe: theres 1280x1024 and 1280x1024 (SXGA), which one?
[12:17] <damg> ?
[12:17] <trollinator> Alek35skm: don#
[12:17] <Alek35skm> I've downloaded gcc4.0.2 and don't know how to install
[12:17] <trollinator> Alek35skm: don't ask if you can ask, just ask :)
[12:17] <Alek35skm> :-)
[12:18] <soundray> kristie, that device is neither Windows Mobile nor Palm compatible. Unless the manufacturer promises active Linux support, I think you can safely forget it. :(
[12:18] <mwe> glacious: are you sure you entered correct info to the generator? also paste the Screen section
[12:18] <trollinator> Alek35skm: why don't you use ubuntu's package management?
[12:18] <damg> Alek35skm, did you download it via synaptic/kynaptic/apt-get or did you download it manually from anywhere?
[12:18] <talisein> yeah, I haven't heard of that one either
[12:18] <trollinator> it is *very* easy to use.
[12:18] <kristie> soundray so the issue is moot?
[12:18] <diesel> damg: yes it is possible
[12:18] <soundray> kristie, I mean, there is a slim chance that you might get it to work as a USB storage device.
[12:18] <Alek35skm> manually, when using apt-get and dealing with mplayer it says it's old verison
[12:18] <Alek35skm> version
[12:18] <diesel> damg: I wouldn't recommend that until it is out of testing and into productino
[12:19] <kristie> i guess i need to get a real palm pilot i guess :P
[12:19] <damg> diesel, :/ not so easy as from deb stable -> deb testing, ok
[12:19] <Alek35skm> all my point was to install mplayer and see where I arrive
[12:19] <trollinator> Alek35skm: apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:19] <glacious> mwe: ok, refresh pastebin
[12:19] <talisein> kristie, or a notepad ;)
[12:19] <soundray> kristie, does it run on a Psion OS?
[12:19] <codyro> or gedit if nano type editors seem daunting ;] 
[12:19] <navarone> mwe...glacious has changed the horiz and vertical ranges...maybe he needs to restart x to see if results are good...?
[12:19] <glacious> mwe err
[12:19] <kristie> i installed the software using crossover it works
[12:19] <glacious> mwe: http://www.pastebin.com/512233
[12:20] <trollinator> Alek35skm: do you use 5.04 or 5.10
[12:20] <trollinator> ?
[12:20] <diesel> damg: the process is the same
[12:20] <Alek35skm> but when configuring mplayer it says (5.1) upgrade gcc
[12:20] <kristie> i am not sure what it runs on
[12:20] <richie41> question: does anyone know how I can get my Realtek sound chip to work on ubuntu? i'm using the livecd version (5.10) and the chip is a built-in one on my laptop (i.e. not a separate card) - any ideas?
[12:20] <j3di> can you make pico (or nano) to word wrap?
[12:20] <j3di> i was using it yesterday and each line was strung out...
[12:20] <j3di> maybe i'm high..
[12:20] <Alek35skm> so my goals are to have gcc (newest) and mplayer
[12:21] <glacious> j3di: i think nano -w file.txt
[12:21] <soundray> kristie, you'd still need a Linux driver for communicating with the device. Unless you can reverse-engineer the Windows driver and write one, it will be hard to come by.
[12:21] <mwe> glacious: are you positive the modeline was generated with correct info?
[12:21] <diesel> damg: however, I don't think comparing debian testing and ubuntu dapper is quite the same
[12:21] <trollinator> Alek35skm: why do you want to build mplayer yourself? doesn't the version from the ubuntu repositories work?
[12:21] <kristie> is a 35 dollar piece of crap
[12:21] <Alek35skm> it doesn'nt
[12:21] <soundray> kristie, buying a Palm will be much less painful...
[12:21] <glacious> mwe: yes.  just wasn't sure which 1280x1024 to use.
[12:21] <glacious> mwe: theres 1280x1024 and 1280x1024 (SXGA), which one?
[12:21] <trollinator> what does it say?
[12:21] <Alek35skm> I can't install it from add aplications
[12:21] <kristie> soundray: i agree..I will give this to the kids to play with LOL
[12:21] <CanadianSnow> how do i detect my sound card?
[12:21] <glacious> mwe: i put in the normal 1280x1024 @ 75hz  (what i run in windows on this monitor).
[12:21] <damg> diesel, well, I have nothing against beta stage, this machine is not intended for production. And in the end - hey, the software is just repackaged and dealing with unfulfilled deps - I can live with that. Are there any known problems if I change repositories and update?
[12:21] <CanadianSnow> how do i detect my sound card?
[12:22] <navarone> glacious I think sxga for laptop screen...<?>
[12:22] <glacious> does refresh rate even matter on an LCD screen?
[12:22] <trollinator> CanadianSnow: lspci
[12:22] <kristie> thank you all for you help it is most appreciated :)
[12:22] <glacious> navarone: yeah, from what i've seen.  wasn't sure if it was an LCD, or specific to laptop.
[12:22] <kristie> good nite
[12:22] <CanadianSnow> no, It doesn't do it
[12:22] <mwe> glacious: just a sec. brb
[12:22] <trollinator> Alek35skm: have you added all the repositories to your sources.list?
[12:23] <diesel> damg: You can change your sources.list to point to dapper and apt-get dist-upgrade, but hold on because some of the dapper packages are broken...that's why it is beta
[12:23] <CanadianSnow> how do i detect my sound card?
[12:23] <Alek35skm> all 4 (if there are 4)
[12:23] <Geopardy> join #ubuntu-it
[12:23] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : have you tried alsaconfig
[12:23] <Alek35skm> how to do that trollinator?
[12:23] <damg> diesel, thanks for your information
[12:23] <navarone> Geopardy try /join
[12:23] <diesel> damg: if you can live with a broken system, then you can try it
[12:23] <trollinator> Alek35skm: i use synaptic.
[12:24] <richie41> does anyone know how I can get my Realtek sound chip to work on ubuntu? i'm using the livecd version (5.10) and the chip is a built-in one on my laptop (i.e. not a separate card) - any ideas?
[12:24] <Geopardy> :) thnks
[12:24] <glacious> mwe: i'm gonna try the normal 1280x1024 @ 60hz.  nice and low, just to see what happens.
[12:24] <Withdraw> i fuxored my menu.lst, is there a way to regenerate my menu.lst
[12:24] <glacious> mwe: but no matter what i put into the xorg.conf, it always just shows 85hz in Gnome as options.
[12:24] <trollinator> oh
[12:24] <damg> diesel, well, I wanted a bit updated software (im used to Gentoo ;) ) and due to the fact that ubuntu freezes the versions, I have a "bad" feeling :D
[12:24] <diesel> damg: I am curious, do you just want to get the most "bleeding-edge" software possible?
[12:24] <Alek35skm> synaptic as alternative for mplayer? it's ok?
[12:24] <CanadianSnow> no i haven't taoscotch ty
[12:24] <trollinator> no, i mean i use synaptic to install stuff
[12:25] <damg> diesel, kinda, but should be a bit stable
[12:25] <Alek35skm> you see I found some video demos who need ffmpeg or how it was some codec
[12:25] <diesel> damg: I probably shouldn't say this in this channel, but why not try debian unstable (with bts)?
[12:25] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow use a terminal logged in as a regular user and type alsaconfig.. or just do alsand tab tab
[12:25] <Alek35skm> and can't do in windows with it and come here on linux :-)
[12:26] <trollinator> Alek35skm: you have to add the multiverse repository
[12:26] <mwe> glacious: try this http://pastebin.com/512240. then restart X and gdm
[12:26] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch it said the command not found
[12:26] <Alek35skm> already did it
[12:26] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch is the other one the same thing?
[12:27] <mwe> glacious: if the modeline is correct it should work
[12:27] <Alek35skm> what is sinaptic.. how can I install it?
[12:27] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : what system are you running normally it is under programs->applications-> system-> admin etc.
[12:27] <glacious> mwe: just ctrl + alt + backspace
[12:27] <decaf> Alek35skm: it's synaptic, installs by default
[12:27] <trollinator> synaptic is a user friendly package manager
[12:27] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : yes that other one is the same thing. but try sndconfig
[12:27] <damg> diesel, last time i did deb unstable, I landed between updated gnome, but outdated gnome-panel (whereby there was no dep ;) ). And in similar situations for other software, too. So I avoid deb unstable. In contrary to that Gentoo's packages are properly packaged, but I can't install it here because the livecd kernel doesn't have netdrivers for this damn laptop :D
[12:27] <mwe> glacious: I think you need to restart gdm as well to make sure
[12:27] <talisein> From your Gnome Menu select System -> Administration -> Synaptic :)
[12:28] <glacious> mwe: ok.
[12:28] <ulrik> this channel should have sub-channels
[12:28] <mwe> glacious: ctrl-alt-bs then ctrl-alt-f1, login and sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:28] <ulrik> someone want to break out some?
[12:28] <decaf> there was a guy who wrotes docs for DJB servers. anyone remember?
[12:28] <Telemachus> good night everyone
[12:28] <pramz> CanadianSnow: what sound card do you have ?
[12:28] <glacious> mwe: so, just add those to the sections?  am i completely getting tod if the screen section there now?
[12:28] <pramz> CanadianSnow: you can try lspci | less to see what the real name of your sound chipset it
[12:28] <pramz> is*
[12:28] <trollinator> Alek35skm: try apt-get install mplayer-586
[12:28] <ompaul> ulrik, there are many sub channels for ubuntu/kubuntu and so on
[12:28] <mwe> glacious: no
[12:28] <Alek35skm> I'll try :-)
[12:28] <ulrik> ompaul: why aren't they in the topic
[12:28] <CanadianSnow> sndconfig : command not found
[12:29] <ompaul> ulrik, there is no space
[12:29] <ulrik> ompaul: these 600 people need to know where to go
[12:29] <pramz> CanadianSnow: sndconfig is an old redhat tool, wont be there in debian or ubuntu
[12:29] <Alek35skm> and return here to say, and to learn more about synaptic :-)
[12:29] <CanadianSnow> pramz i dont know
[12:29] <ulrik> it's quite important right now
[12:29] <talisein> and chaos is fun :)
[12:29] <mwe> glacious: you should just correct the Modeline and the section fo 24bit
[12:29] <pramz> CanadianSnow: type lspci | less and see what sound chipset you have
[12:29] <taoscotch> Canadiansnow : what system are you using
[12:29] <CanadianSnow> Ya im on ubuntu
[12:29] <glacious> mwe: ok
[12:29] <CanadianSnow> | less? pramz?
[12:29] <pramz> lspci | grep audio might be easier
[12:29] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch ubuntu
[12:29] <mwe> glacious: let me post it all
[12:29] <pramz> type lspci | grep audio
[12:30] <diesel> damg: yeah, with debian unstable you run certain risks...however, with a bts (bug tracking system), I have _rarely_ had troubles with unstable
[12:30] <Alek35skm> hey trollinator it seems that will work with -586 :-) own you one
[12:31] <mwe> glacious: http://pastebin.com/512246. replace your Monitor and Screen sections with that. back up xorg.conf first
[12:31] <glacious> mwe: preferences/screen resolution still shows 85hz only, and monitor still has bouncy box
[12:31] <mwe> glacious: then log out and restart gdm
[12:31] <ompaul> ulrik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[12:31] <trollinator> Alek35skm: you should really try synaptic. It's much easier to use than apt
[12:31] <damg> diesel, i think a bit changed since sarge release. I think you got me. I'll give it a try this weekend. Thanks for the idea ;)
[12:31] <mwe> glacious: with what I suggested and after restarting gdm?
[12:31] <ulrik> ompaul: thanks a lot
[12:32] <ompaul> !irc
[12:32] <ubotu> it has been said that irc is info on irc at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Relay_Chat, or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InternetRelayChat
[12:32] <glacious> yea i'll try the fill copy/paste.
[12:32] <LoPMX> how can i install gnustep?
[12:32] <mwe> glacious: if so I guess the modeline is no good
[12:32] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch + pramz : 0000:00:12.0 Communication controller: Motorola SM56 PCI Modem
[12:32] <CanadianSnow> 0000:01:01.0 VGA compatible controller: S3 Inc. Trio 64 3D (rev 01)
[12:32] <sbartleylinux> Can someone tell me if the Dapper release will be on just a live CD with an installer or with the Breezy style of one install CD and one Live CD?
[12:32] <Withdraw> how do i add windows into my grub menu.lst?
[12:32] <glacious> mwe: but why would it still ONLY show 85hz?
[12:32] <cafuego> sbartleylinux: It's one install and one live cd.
[12:33] <glacious> mwe: your pastebin has line numbers everywhere
[12:33] <Alek35skm> while mplayer is installing here, how to improve my system to not freeze when using usb flash?
[12:33] <sbartleylinux> cafuego, thx.
[12:33] <Qalimas> How can I change the settings of, then restart, GNOME's remote desktop?
[12:33] <sbartleylinux> cafuego, do you know if the kickstart functionality is better on dapper?  i.e. can it be made to work fully?
[12:33] <Palli-Moon> How do I mount hdd?
[12:33] <navarone> glacious try restarting gdm
[12:34] <LoPMX> why does eg. synaptic get theme's look?
[12:34] <glacious> navarone: i did.  i did /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[12:34] <akari> Hi, i live in sweden. What it the settings for the internet???
[12:34] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch + pramz : " lspci | grep audio " does absolutley nothing :s
[12:34] <cafuego> akari: The swedish internet or the worldwide one?
[12:34] <taoscotch> pramz : should Canadain
[12:34] <Xenguy> akari: settings for what?
[12:35] <pramz> CanadianSnow: type lspci > ~/lspci.txt
[12:35] <pramz> and copy the content of that file to pastebin.com and link me
[12:35] <bnD> does anyone know how i can turn off tapclick for a touchpad using ALPS?
[12:35] <mwe> cafuego: :|
[12:35] <Palli-Moon> Can somebody please tell me how I can mount a harddrive into ubuntu? (live cd)
[12:35] <akari> Oh, Only for me.. for example i cant use bitcomet.. or bit torrettn.. only  chat and google for example
[12:35] <CanadianSnow> pramz, it doesn't do anything...
[12:35] <Bobby> Hello everyone :)
[12:35] <under_score> How do I remove files I downloaded using wine?
[12:35] <taoscotch> pramz + CanadianSnow : shouldn't he synaptic : alsaconfig  will that work
[12:35] <diesel> Palli-Moon: sudo mount /dev/hdaX /mnt/somewhere
[12:36] <under_score> They auto saved to C:\program files
[12:36] <under_score> etc
[12:36] <Bobby> Hello :) I have a question. Can anyone help? :)
[12:36] <mwe> Palli-Moon: mkdir -p /mnt/mydisk && mount /dev/hd?? /mnt/mydisk
[12:36] <navarone> Bobby ask
[12:36] <Palli-Moon> oh okay, thanks
[12:36] <mwe> Palli-Moon: as root
[12:36] <Bobby> nava, I just got a new network card. But when i booted into linux, my connection doesnt work. Do i have to install new drivers for it?
[12:37] <cafuego> akari: Why can't you use them? Not installed or just won't work?
[12:37] <navarone> Bobby what model and kind or card...wireless...ethernet?
[12:37] <talisein> Bobby, wireless of wired, and what type of card? :)
[12:37] <Bobby> regular old cheap NIC
[12:37] <Bobby> just a Netgear FA311
[12:38] <Bobby> do i have to install drivers for it?
[12:38] <akari> it doesent work. and the internet was off about 5 min ago.. and i was checking internet piratbyran.org for example.. and xchat
[12:38] <under_score> Anyone know?
[12:38] <xbox_sky> Bizzeh
[12:38] <Palli-Moon> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[12:38] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch + pramz : "bash: alsaconfig: command not found
[12:38] <CanadianSnow> "
[12:38] <xbox_sky> you're not an XBMC dev and noir will you ever be one
[12:38] <talisein> Bobby, modprobe natsemi
[12:38] <glacious> mwe: i copied your whole section, still nothing.
[12:38] <justaguy_> busy in here, eh?
[12:38] <xbox_sky> what a joke
[12:38] <mwe> glacious: I guess the modeline is not good
[12:38] <Bobby> talisein, you mean in terminal?
[12:38] <talisein> Bobby, Then see if ifconfig eth0 up
[12:39] <Palli-Moon> Whatever am I doing wrong?
[12:39] <trollinator> my onboard sound doesn't work properly, stereo works but no surround sound :/
[12:39] <mwe> glacious: did you try a redicously low refresh rate for testing?
[12:39] <glacious> mwe: but why just 85hz?  seems high for a 'default'
[12:39] <michael> I just deleted the trash icon from the taskbar - how do i get it back?
[12:39] <talisein> Bobby, yes. Oh, you might need to do sudo modprobe... :)
[12:39] <mwe> glacious: right
[12:39] <glacious> mwe: yes i did the modeline generator with 1280 x 1024 @ 60hz.
[12:39] <ompaul> Bobby, click on system administration networking and tell the box to enable the card :-)
[12:39] <pramz> CanadianSnow: type lspci > ~/lspci.txt
[12:39] <pramz> and copy the content of that file to pastebin.com and link me
[12:39] <talisein> michael, right click on the taskbar and click "add to panel" then the trash can
[12:39] <Delvien> is American Idol on tonight?
[12:39] <CanadianSnow> it doesn't do anything pramz
[12:40] <mwe> glacious: mine is 60hz as my laptop needs it
[12:40] <Delvien> *sighs loudly*
[12:40] <iMac> i just had kubuntu live CD for PPC boot into open firmware
[12:40] <Bobby> ok,,,, brb
[12:40] <Bobby> Thanks! :)
[12:40] <Palli-Moon> what's the option for the fat32 filesystem?
[12:40] <under___score> How do I remove files I downloaded using wine? They autosaved to C:\program files\ and I can't remember how to remove them.
[12:40] <under___score> :\
[12:40] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch + pramz : "user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ lspci > ~/lspci.txt
[12:40] <CanadianSnow> user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ lspci > ~/lspci.txt
[12:40] <CanadianSnow> user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ lspci >~/lspci.txt
[12:40] <CanadianSnow> user@Andrew-ubuntu:~$ lspci >~/lspci.txt
[12:40] <CanadianSnow> "
[12:40] <michael> i don't see an add to panel option
[12:40] <cafuego> iMac: What version imac are you on?
[12:40] <Xenguy> Palli-Moon: vfat
[12:40] <adept_sucks> :(
[12:40] <ompaul> CanadianSnow, do not paste in here
[12:40] <michael> nope found it
[12:40] <talisein> :)
[12:40] <ompaul> !Tell CanadianSnow about paste
[12:41] <mwe> glacious: I don't know. I'd suggest posting on ubuntuforums.org when it gets back online
[12:41] <CanadianSnow> ompaul, not even 4 lines?
[12:41] <adept_sucks> Adept just went on a rampage and deleted itself and a bunch of programs.
[12:41] <adept_sucks> Some update that was.
[12:41] <Xenguy> Palli-Moon: er, -t vfat
[12:41] <iMac> cafuego: I am running 5.10
[12:41] <Xenguy> Palli-Moon: ... is the syntax
[12:41] <jean> my tar.gz file is saying not in gzip format...whats this mean
[12:41] <Palli-Moon> Right.. the syntax..
[12:42] <talisein> jean are you sure the download finished?
[12:42] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow + pramz : do you know how to use synaptic
[12:42] <ompaul> CanadianSnow, correct - there are 628 in here, it is generally accepted that over 2 lines is a paste -
[12:42] <Xenguy> Palli-Moon: apt-get install dict  :P
[12:42] <jean> talisein: i think its corrupt..can it be fixed?
[12:42] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch + pramz : any ideas? :s My box just isn't seeing the card like at all
[12:42] <Palli-Moon> oh shut up..
[12:42] <michael> what is a good plugin for firefox to watch .wmv files?
[12:42] <mwe> glacious: I seem to remember sth about using xvidtune. hmm
[12:42] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : have you used synaptic before.
[12:42] <Xenguy> bye
[12:43] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch like the package manager?
[12:43] <talisein> jean probably not, if its actually corrupt. If it just got aborted before it finished you can probably resume the download
[12:43] <glacious> mwe: i posted there last night.  hoepfully i'll get a response soon :)
[12:43] <CanadianSnow> moon you shut up (if you were talking 2 me)
[12:43] <Qalimas> How can I change the settings of, then restart, GNOME's remote desktop?
[12:44] <glacious> xvidtune just gives me "cannot open display"
[12:44] <NatureTM> ok, so sometimes xserver fails to load, and sometimes it works
[12:44] <glacious> er i gotta be in X :)
[12:44] <NatureTM> but when if fails, it won't let me read error logs
[12:44] <mwe> glacious: you need to run it in X
[12:44] <NatureTM> i think it has to do with nvidia?
[12:45] <luisito> installing the qt libs in ubuntu do some unstable issues?
[12:45] <Xenguy> NatureTM: I had to use NV's native drivers to get X working
[12:45] <cafuego> luisito: No, that's just KDE.
[12:45] <cafuego> luisito: It's designed to be like windows (unstable ;-)
[12:45] <talisein> ooo
[12:45] <NatureTM> Xenguy: I tried installing those and xserver said my versions of i believe the driver and module didn't match
[12:46] <michael> I was given a link to watch a .wmv, I have flash player installed, but the video won't load.
[12:46] <mwe> glacious: but if you can't run X ... does lower resolution work?
[12:46] <talisein> michael Anyway to save the clip to disk? That usually works better for me
[12:46] <dalamar> !w32codecs
[12:46] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[12:47] <dalamar> make sure those are installed for wmv as well
[12:47] <Xenguy> NatureTM: /msg ubotu nvidia -- there are some links to start with.  Look for a page entitled "I am experiencing problems with the official nVidia drivers" -- that one helped me get up and running....
[12:47] <talisein> yeah that too :)
[12:47] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : yeah that one
[12:47] <Sohmc> hello everyone!
[12:47] <michael> how do you do that - it's an embedded file  http://mediawart.com/view.php?id=1615039560
[12:47] <glacious> mwe: i can run it at 1280x1024 and lower resolutions
[12:47] <wogi_> Seveas: Aha!
[12:47] <Xenguy> NatureTM: in the meantime you can try using the 'vesa' driver in your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file -- it might work until you get NV going
[12:47] <Seveas> wogi_, ?
[12:48] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch ya, whats in there that willl help?
[12:48] <talisein> michael: You can't always download it to disk unfrotunately. Have you installed the w32codecs, as outlined above?
[12:48] <wogi_> Seveas & mwe: Remember me? who couldn't install gforge-db-postgresql a long time ago?
[12:48] <NatureTM> Xenguy: thx for help, hopefully there won't be a meantime
[12:48] <glacious> mwe: just that its trying 85hz always, and i can't change it, so my monitor displays an error.  (but monitor auto-throttles back to like 60 or something, so the desktop still displays, behind the bouncing error box).
[12:48] <luisito> cafuego, yep. that's true. I've noticed thatt gnome hasn't crashed since I started to use it.
[12:48] <Seveas> wogi_, vaguely
[12:48] <Xenguy> NatureTM: good luck :-)
[12:48] <Sohmc> How do I get ubuntu to start a service at boot-time?
[12:48] <wogi_> Seveas mwe: Well, it was a silly thing. I think the pkg was just a little broken, so I tricked it :)
[12:48] <michael> i'll check it out
[12:48] <glacious> mwe: i just changed the 24 bit screen line to have ONLY 1280x1024.  Gnome still lists ALL resolutions.  it's not using that config.
[12:48] <Sohmc> (eg httpd, sshd, etc.)
[12:49] <talisein> michael You'll probably also want to install "mozilla-mplayer" afterwords
[12:49] <stevenj> If there is anyone here who is currently "testing" dapper cd 3 -- I have a few questions.  I read that the new x updates fixes most broken x server issues.  My problem is doing a clean install my networking fails and x server fails...I cannot get the x updates with a net connection.  Btw Breezy works perfectly, so all my hardware is working.
[12:49] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : search for the package alsaconfig : i know it is old fashion way of doing it but install the package alsaconfig or the one the one that has the file alsaconfig. ok and then run program alsaconfig. but before u run it try to stoop all other stuff u dont need
[12:49] <Keyseir> Does anyone here have experience setting up win4lin
[12:49] <Keyseir> ?
[12:50] <mwe> glacious: yes
[12:50] <mwe> glacious: kde does the same
[12:50] <jariep1_> I want to setup a server from home... when I installed ubuntu, i choose localhost.localdomain... how do I change this?
[12:50] <jariep1_> actually kubuntu
[12:50] <stevenj> Does anyone have any suggestions or know about any current "bug fixes" to restore my network connection after installing dapper
[12:51] <Sohmc> How do I get ubuntu to start a service at boot-time?  (e.g. httpd, sshd, etc.)
[12:51] <mwe> wogi_: how did you fix it?
[12:51] <mwe> wogi_: you couldn't get rid of it right?
[12:51] <mwe> glacious: does the monitor complain at lower resolutions?
[12:51] <glacious> mwe: yes, and it still only shows 85hz
[12:52] <trollinator> my onboard sound doesn't work properly, stereo works but no surround sound :/
[12:52] <ompaul> Sohmc, you install "boot up manager" bum
[12:52] <glacious> mwe: i just tried removing all but the 24bit lines.  it craps out :)  ima add them back in now...
[12:52] <talisein> jariep1_, you don't necessarily need to change your system's name to make it accessible to the outside world... but to do so you would change /etc/hostname and /etc/hosts... you might want to Google around to see how you should modify the /etc/hosts file
[12:52] <mwe> glacious: that's really odd. It worked for me like 7 years ago or so.
[12:52] <pollomix> ubuntu-es
[12:52] <glacious> mwe: deleting all other bit-depths?
[12:52] <Sohmc> ompaul, thanks!  installing now
[12:53] <ompaul> Sohmc, of course you will have to install the correct program to have it kick off when you start the machine
[12:53] <Sohmc> ompaul, what do you mean?
[12:53] <mwe> glacious: it will break if default depth is still 24bit
[12:53] <wogi_> mwe: Well it was 2 things I think. It wanted postmaster to be running. And I was having trouble just getting it to start until I figured out its 1 line of comment to turn of the ssl = true line in postgresql config file. But when it was running, the gforge-db-postgresql package was looking in /var/lib/postgres/data.
[12:54] <ompaul> Sohmc, if you want to start or stop a web server with it you will need to install such a webserver
[12:54] <mwe> glacious: did you try lowering VertRefresh?
[12:54] <wogi_> mwe: unfrotunately that directory didn't exist. There was a /var/lib/postgresql directory. But even that one didn't have a data directory.
[12:54] <navarone> is ubuntuforums down?
[12:54] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch what do u mean stop all other stuff i dont need?
[12:54] <Sohmc> ompaul, heheh..thanks..  I was aware of that..  I'm switching from fedora core to ubuntu and don't know what translates to what
[12:55] <mwe> wogi_: is this breezy?
[12:55] <glacious> mwe: i set it from 55-75, to just 60
[12:55] <wogi_> mwe: So I just created /var/lib/postgres and /var/lib/postgres/data and touched postmaster.pid (which it was complaining about) and then I had to manuall put the pid of postmaster in there and Then it worked. :)
[12:55] <Sohmc> on fedora, it's configure-services-something or other
[12:55] <fireonyx> In my startup, I am getting an error about loading 8139cp, and that I should use 8139too, which are both kernel modules...  where do I edit to change that?
[12:55] <stevenj> anyone using dapper???
[12:55] <mwe> glacious: nothing changed?
[12:55] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch like close everything?
[12:55] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : nothing serious i meant something that might be cpu intesive meaning gimp, or
[12:55] <wogi_> mwe: yes Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[12:55] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch like amsn????
[12:55] <mwe> glacious: I think you need 60.0 - 60.0 though
[12:56] <mwe> wogi_: it sounds like a pretty serious bug
[12:56] <taoscotch> CanadianSnow : na na not everything, yeah like amsn and stuff that u dont need to chat ... etc.
[12:56] <glacious> mwe: i'll try that
[12:56] <wogi_> mwe: Hm. I wonder if there's some place I can tell someone who can fix it?
[12:56] <ompaul> Sohmc, it all translates as different, feels similar, but much, much better :-) the most important thing is to get used to sudo - su will ruin your life if you use it (maybe not your life but it could ruin your days
[12:56] <CanadianSnow> alright...
[12:56] <mwe> wogi_: bugzilla
[12:56] <CanadianSnow> taoscotch I'll be back when im done
[12:56] <mwe> wogi_: bugzilla.ubuntu.com post a bug there
[12:56] <Sohmc> ompaul, Yeah, I got the sudo speech yesterday
[12:56] <nanotube> navarone: i cant reach ubuntuforums either
[12:57] <navarone> nano thanks...at least it isn't just me...lol
[12:57] <Sohmc> I've been considering a distro change for a while...held off because, well, old habits die hard
[12:57] <wogi_> mwe: ok I shall try. my first bug! *prance*
[12:57] <jesse_> help! my earth 3d 1.0.4. only gives me pictures that look like a psychadelic Death star!
[12:57] <_jchaoul> how could I update my php using yast?
[12:57] <nanotube> navarone: hehe yea. i actually came in here in order to ask the same question :)
[12:57] <Sohmc> ompaul, I haven't been able to get sudo to work correctly
[12:57] <sybariten> evening everyone
[12:57] <Sohmc> it says that I'm not entering the write password, when su works fine
[12:57] <sybariten> i only recently learned that there is a specific version of ubuntu called server ....
[12:57] <glacious> mwe: NOTHING i change in xorg.conf changes anything in the display resolution menu in Gnome
[12:58] <sybariten> anyone know if it has different requirements than the normal version ?
[12:58] <Sohmc> ompaul, bum is really taking a long time to load...is that normal?
[12:58] <trollinator> gnome sucks....
[12:58] <trollinator> kde is soooo much better than gnome...
[12:58] <trollinator> even linus says that :p
[12:58] <ompaul> Sohmc, yes
[12:58] <mwe> glacious: I don't know about the gnome menu.
[12:58] <Sohmc> ompaul, it just finished...lol
[12:58] <talisein> linus is just an opinionated geek, like the rest of us
[12:58] <Xenguy> trollinator: aptly named =)
[12:59] <Xenguy> heheh
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[12:59] <shawn> can anyone help me out with partioning?
[12:59] <shawn> with gparted running ubuntu live cd?
[12:59] <nanotube> so, could anyone please help me out with some gnome-related questions?
[12:59] <Seveas> nanotube, just ask
[01:00] <mwe> glacious: It's weird it has no effect
[01:00] <glacious> mwe: well, thanks for all your time.   =)  I really appreciate it
[01:00] <glacious> mwe: maybe it's just a Dapper issue, or something i'm overlooking.
[01:00] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[01:00] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:00] <navarone> mwe I found a thread regarding just that prob in ubuntuforums but I cannot get it to load
[01:00] <shawn> anybody?
[01:00] <Sohmc> ompaul, how do I fix sudu so that I don't have to su anymore??  when I try to sudo, it says that I have the wrong password when my password is the same
[01:00] <glacious> mwe: i wish 5.10 worked on here.  but my SATA is only supported in 6.04+...  new kernel.
[01:00] <nanotube> seveas: thanks :) so in windows when you double click the window menu (the one in the top right corner, with minimize, maximize, etc), it closes the window. is it possible to set the same behavior in gnome?
[01:00] <navarone> glacious are you using dapper?
[01:01] <glacious> navarone: yes.  i have to.  5.x won't install, because my pri drive is SATA.
[01:01] <Seveas> nanotube, top left corner you mean I suppose?
[01:01] <ompaul> !tell Sohmc about sudo
[01:01] <glacious> navarone: Dapper auto-detects it, 5.x does not @ install.
[01:01] <jesse_> earth 3d is only giving very colorful pictures that don't resemble the earth much  running hoary..
[01:01] <jean> how is dapper? many problems?
[01:01] <nanotube> shawn: i am a newbie to ubuntu, but i have done some partitioning stuff in my earlier days under freebsd. ask your question, maybe i can help.
[01:01] <cafuego> glacious: Then the controller is the problem, not the drive.
[01:01] <mwe> glacious: did you comment out the modeline?
[01:01] <ubuntu> hi
[01:02] <glacious> cafuego: what?
[01:02] <mwe> glacious: it's not still using it?
[01:02] <stevenj> can anyone access ubuntu forums?
[01:02] <glacious> mwe: yes.  tried vert/horiz, tried modeline, tried both together.
[01:02] <glacious> mwe: nope =(
[01:02] <navarone> stevenj...not me
[01:02] <nanotube> seveas: oops, yes, top left corner indeed
[01:02] <mwe> glacious: I give up
[01:02] <jesse_> no forums here
[01:02] <glacious> cafuego: the controller works.  5.x kernel does NOT support it at install.
[01:02] <glacious> cafuego: kind of hard to install to a drive it can't see :)
[01:02] <glacious> mwe: as do i. at least for now.  at least it's on my laptop...
[01:03] <stevenj> navarone, been trying all day too, trying to find a network solution for dapper
[01:03] <glacious> mwe: my desktop will stay a gaming machine for now =)
[01:03] <ulrik> is it possible to get horizontal scrolling (mouse) working?
[01:03] <glacious> mwe: thanks again!  i'm sure i'll be back soon...
[01:03] <navarone> glacious is there some kinda of flag you can invoke at install to force recognition...?
[01:03] <shawn> i would like to now if gparted could resize my windows fat 32 partion.. without dleteing my windows?
[01:03] <Seveas> nanotube, my memory says that it's indeed configurable but a quick browse through gconf-editor seems to disagree
[01:03] <cafuego> glacious: Yes, so the controller is your problem. (controller support). The fact it's SATA is irrelevant.
[01:04] <Sohmc> ompaul, I'm still having problems.  My user is in the admin group and the admin group is in /etc/sudoers and sudo still doesn't work
[01:04] <borgasman> Want to get money just reading emails? 0,5 cent per each (if you gather more friends, the more you earn.) Payout when you reach 1 dollar  http://www.gainpay.com/pages/index.php?refid=jackio
[01:04] <Seveas> fucking spammer
[01:04] <shawn> so can anyone help me with using gparted to resize a windows fat 32 partion?
[01:04] <navarone> shawn...it is possible...but in my experience I would defrag windows first and be prepared for grub/bootloader to cause problems afterwards. I think resizing may alter partitions tables and grub has a slight fit...at least it did with me
[01:04] <bunga> ldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4F368D5D
[01:05] <bunga> ??
[01:05] <ulrik> w3
[01:05] <jbzz> shawn:  have you made a dependable backup of the partition?
[01:05] <cafuego> 0.5 cents is also NOT money
[01:05] <shawn> yes
[01:05] <glacious> navarone: not that i know if.  theres drivers for it.  but only dapper kernel supports the controller
[01:05] <shawn> but it shouldn't erase verything right?
[01:05] <nanotube> seveas: well, thanks for trying
[01:05] <glacious> cafuego: either way, 5.x doesn't work with it @ install.
[01:05] <Seveas> bunga, complete output on the pastebin please
[01:05] <navarone> shawn at best defrag and be prepared to reinitialize grub
[01:05] <shawn> if i do a resize..
[01:05] <glacious> navarone: and i have no idea how to get the drivers onto the CD and have them used to search for a controller =)
[01:06] <mwe> glacious: you restarted gdm after each change right?
[01:06] <shawn> navarone.. can i pm u to get some help?
[01:06] <nanotube> shawn - i have done that before back in my freebsd days. first thing you have to do is defrag your windows partition like everyone else says, so that you can cleanly "cut off" a piece off the end.
[01:06] <Sohmc> OH!!!!  I have to enter MY password, not root's....wow
[01:06] <cafuego> glacious: So yiour sata controller is not supported by the 2.6.12 kernel. Your only option is to use a newer one (ie dapper or a custom installer with a 2.5.14 kernel perhaps)
[01:06] <Sohmc> there we go
[01:06] <glacious> mwe: yes
[01:06] <navarone> shawn the more ears hearing the better...I am not an expert at any stretch of the imagination
[01:06] <shawn> okay
[01:06] <glacious> cafuego: yes.  but i have no idea how to make a 'custom installer' :)
[01:06] <shawn> so i defrag..
[01:06] <shawn> in windows 98 right?
[01:06] <navarone> shawn yes
[01:07] <shawn> i also tried installing ubuntu...
[01:07] <navarone> shawn are you preparing to install ubuntu?
[01:07] <shawn> but found i couldn't get pass partioning step
[01:07] <shawn> yes..
[01:07] <bunga> Seveas, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7345
[01:07] <shawn> i plan on having windows 98 se and ubuntu
[01:07] <glacious> ok time to go teach.  thanks again everyone! =)
[01:07] <shawn> i use to have to partions
[01:07] <shawn> but i delted my one
[01:07] <Seveas> bunga, don't use debian repositories on an Ubuntu system. EVER
[01:08] <shawn> so now i got one partion of my whole drive
[01:08] <shawn> only half used
[01:08] <jjazz> Where can I find a libdvdcss2 package?
[01:08] <shawn> got 5 gbs left
[01:08] <bunga> woot
[01:08] <CalamityX> how do i reactive eth0 in kde ?
[01:08] <bunga> so ?
[01:08] <Kyral> ubotu tell jjazz about dvd
[01:08] <Xenguy> Sohmc: sooner or later you'll want sudo -i too
[01:08] <shawn> what file system should i use for ubuntu?
[01:08] <navarone> shawn ok...defrag and then go thru install...at partitioning portion you need to resize current fat32 to a smaller size. So if drive it say 80 gb...resize it to 65-70...taht will leave 10-15 gb freesapce for ubuntu
[01:08] <Warlord384> hello everyone
[01:09] <jjazz> Kyral: Thanks much
[01:09] <jesse_> anybody know of a world wind for ubuntu (hoary)?
[01:09] <navarone> shawn filesystem I would use is ext2 or ext3...but opinions vary
[01:09] <CalamityX> how do i reactive eth0 in kde, the bottons are gryed out ???
[01:09] <shawn> could i use fat 32 for ubuntu so windows can see it?
[01:09] <Sohmc> Xenguy, thanks...
[01:09] <Sohmc> dinner time!
[01:09] <Xenguy> Sohmc: yw
[01:09] <CalamityX> how do i reactive eth0 in kde, the bottons are greyed out ???
[01:09] <navarone> shawn...no ubuntu cannot use fat32 as filesystem...but it can read and write to it
[01:10] <nanotube> shawn: iirc, fat32 does not support user permissions... so its not recommended. (but i may be wrong)
[01:10] <wide-eye> i have a home lan with a firewall with nat, dns, dhcp etc. from my new ubuntu install i cannot resolve by hostname, i have to put a . after host or host.localdomain to reach, any ideas?
[01:10] <shawn> abe thats why it wouldn't install
[01:10] <shawn> i was trying to install on fat32 before
[01:10] <Seveas> nanotube, the installer even refuses to install on it ;)
[01:10] <nanotube> jjazz: check this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats under "dvd playback"
[01:11] <nanotube> seveas: heh, that makes the decision even easier, then.
[01:11] <armosfighter> can anybody help me with mplayer?
[01:11] <ubuntu> wo geht hier die Party????
[01:11] <Seveas> !tell armosfighter about anybody
[01:11] <cafuego> !de
[01:11] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:11] <CalamityX> can someone help me ?
[01:11] <asdfasd> how can I to enable ant-aliasing for libfreetype6 ?
[01:11] <navarone> nanotube...I have a fat32 partition with music shares...when I started to try and add files I dl'ed in ubuntu to the drive I found I had to first create a new folder on drive and move them there and eventually transfer them to Music folder in Windows...I think ubuntu recognizes permissions inherited thru windows
[01:12] <ubuntu> danke,werde gleich mal schauen gehen...
[01:12] <armosfighter> well when i try to go double or fullscreen it just stays normal size and the box gets bigger it doesnt stretch it
[01:12] <shawn> so when i get to partioning step.. what option do i chose?
[01:12] <dooglus> I forgot to run the vino server on my laptop.  not I'm wanting to access it remotely.  is there any way I can run the vino server remotely?
[01:12] <j0hnny> www.ubuntuforums.org totally down or what? Are there any other url that might work?
[01:12] <nanotube> armosfighter: dude, i have the exact same problem. would add my voice to your question.
[01:12] <CalamityX> can someone help me ?
[01:12] <Seveas> j0hnny, down indeed
[01:12] <j0hnny> ok
[01:12] <dooglus> I can ssh to the box, but what do I need to run in the ssh session to get vino listening?
[01:12] <nanotube> navarone: i see...
[01:12] <j0hnny> :S
[01:12] <navarone> shawn...Manual I believe...but I am rusty...I installed on new drive with unallocated space so I used the auto partitioner
[01:12] <j0hnny> down like all day :S
[01:13] <j0hnny> forum down for maintenance?
[01:13] <asdfasd> how can I to enable ant-aliasing for libfreetype6 ?
[01:14] <navarone> nanotube...sry if you were refering to fat32 as base for ubuntu install...I thought you meant permissions in general
[01:14] <PuMpErNiCkLe> asdfasd: System -> prefs -> font?
[01:14] <jbzz> shawn:  Did you say you have  5 Gigs  that is 'free' and not used in any partition?
[01:14] <bimberi> dooglus: i just activated vino - in ps auxw the command looks like "/usr/lib/vino/vino-server --oaf-activate-iid=OAFIID:GNOME_RemoteDesktopServer --oaf-ior-fd=45"
[01:14] <shawn> i have 5 gb's free on my partion
[01:14] <shawn> its used in my windows partion..
[01:14] <bimberi> dooglus: (running as my user)
[01:15] <dooglus> bimberi: I guess that has to be run from inside X though, right?
[01:15] <shawn> my windows partion is 100% of my dsik space..
[01:15] <shawn> but i'm only using half of it
[01:15] <navarone> shawn what is windows using it for?
[01:15] <CalamityX> can someone help me ?
[01:15] <bimberi> dooglus: maybe not - worth a try
[01:15] <shawn> nothing
[01:15] <jbzz> shawn:  Understood.
[01:15] <shawn> its part of my main partion
[01:15] <jean> hi im running a py game and i get open /dev/sequencer: No such file or directory
[01:15] <Seveas> CalamityX, try #kubuntu if no one answers
[01:15] <shawn> but i still want windows 98 se runnable
[01:15] <crimsun> jean: modprobe snd-seq
[01:15] <nanotube> navarone: no, i was referring to in general... i can set permissions on files on my fat32 partition... but after reboot, they all go back to default permissions (as set during mount in fstab).
[01:15] <navarone> shawn okay so you have 5gb free...but you mean freespace on whole partiton/drive...?
[01:15] <j0hnny> forum down for maintenance?
[01:15] <stunna> just install ubuntu
[01:16] <shawn> yes
[01:16] <crimsun> jean: if you still can't get it working, following the sequencer tips page on alsa.opensrc.org
[01:16] <shawn> its all one drive
[01:16] <shawn> capactiy 10 gbs... 5 gb fee
[01:16] <navarone> shawn how big is the drive total?
[01:16] <jbzz> shawn:  You have one large windows partition.
[01:16] <navarone> ahh
[01:16] <shawn> so all i need to do i resize it
[01:16] <nanotube> navarone: its not a big problem for me since i just keep data files on there, but it is still kind of a pain. any hints on how to make it do permissions as normal, then, since it works for you?
[01:16] <jean> crimsun: thanks it works but now it says E: Unable to load default character data.
[01:16] <shawn> is one large partion.. yes
[01:16] <shawn> its 9.54gb exact
[01:16] <shawn> windows is using 4 gb's of it
[01:17] <shawn> and i could use the free space for ubuntu
[01:17] <jbzz> shawn:  Do you have a reliable backup of that partition?
[01:17] <shawn> not really
[01:17] <shawn> i don't hane anything important
[01:17] <shawn> its a clean install of 98 se
[01:17] <VeveshniK> russian ?
[01:17] <jbzz> shawn:  Understood.
[01:17] <jesse_> anybody know of a world wind for ubuntu (hoary)?
[01:17] <navarone> shawn...hmmm...10 gb's is not a lot to share between...especially if you may add more softwatre in windows and such. Perhaps a new drive would be an option?
[01:17] <shawn> so i want to resize without.. unistalling 98 se
[01:18] <shawn> no
[01:18] <nanotube> veveshnik: yes
[01:18] <shawn> i would like to have like 2 gb for ubuntu
[01:18] <shawn> to start me off
[01:18] <shawn> or maybe 3 gb for ubntu
[01:18] <jbzz> shawn:  I suggest 3 Gig minimum.
[01:18] <nanotube> shawn: i can tell you my partitions: i have 40 g drive, 10 g to win, 10g to ubuntu, and 20 g to data drive.
[01:18] <VeveshniK> nanotube translit poimete ?
[01:18] <shawn> okay
[01:18] <shawn> i'll use 3 gb for ubuntu
[01:19] <shawn> now
[01:19] <shawn> when i get to the partioning step when running off install cd
[01:19] <shawn> what option i select?
[01:19] <nanotube> shawn: my ubuntu install, plus some stuff i install from synaptic, is already about 3 g. so i would recommend at least 4-5 gb, to have room to play.
[01:19] <nanotube> veveshnik: poimu konechno :)
[01:19] <shawn> okay
[01:19] <shawn> so can anyone tell me what i need to do?
[01:19] <navarone> shawn I have 11gb on second hard drive...<s> And I have 7.6 of that free...so 3.4 roughly already used
[01:20] <shawn> all i need is ubuntu
[01:20] <shawn> i just wanna try it out better
[01:20] <stunna> anyone know how to get older hardware to work with ubuntu
[01:20] <spine> does anyone know why i cant run steam under wine, i can launch steam but when i attemp to launch cs it only displays the background and no gui fonts and it wont even let me see the mouse over the window as well as click
[01:20] <stunna> i have an older laptop
[01:20] <stunna> ibm thinkpad
[01:20] <armosfighter> !mplayer
[01:20] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[01:20] <shawn> so.. whats the process of resizing partion
[01:20] <stunna> i need to get my sound modules workin
[01:20] <shawn> and installing ubntu
[01:20] <shawn> wihout losing windows 98
[01:21] <sybariten> are there any light-versions of Ubuntu
[01:21] <sybariten> ??
[01:21] <crimsun> stunna: are you using APM or ACPI?
[01:21] <justaguy> any thoughts on initNG?  Pro/con?
[01:21] <crimsun> sybariten: Xubuntu
[01:21] <navarone> shawn ok...defrag and then go thru install...at partitioning portion you need to resize current fat32 to a smaller size. So if drive it say 80 gb...resize it to 65-70...taht will leave 10-15 gb freesapce for ubuntu
[01:21] <bimberi> shawn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/installation/Partitioning
[01:21] <spine> does anyone know why i cant run steam under wine, i can launch steam but when i attemp to launch cs it only displays the background and no gui fonts and it wont even let me see the mouse over the window as well as click
[01:21] <nanotube> stunna: check https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam to see compatibility with your laptop...
[01:21] <crimsun> stunna: need more hardware details
[01:21] <shawn> so when i get to partioing step... what option do i chose... to do..?. ex. resize partion.. or maully edit partion.. etc?
[01:21] <navarone> manual
[01:22] <nanotube> sybariten: http://ubuntulite.org/ check this out
[01:22] <navarone> hmmm...resize is an option?
[01:22] <sybariten> crimsun: uhm.... ok ... this leads me onto another subject. Do you know if the server version of ubuntu will run on a 64 mb machine ?
[01:22] <wide-eye> spine: you probably need to buy cedega to play games
[01:22] <VeveshniK> nanotube : ) Est' problemma posle instaliacii ... kopalsia na forume - tak otvet i ne nashel ... ubuntu 5.10 x86 gruzitsia menu vvoda logina i parolia vvoju ih ... i vse visnet
[01:22] <bnD> can anyone help me out ? i seem to have lost the ability to exit WDM and go to a TTY by pressing ctrl+alt+F1
[01:22] <sybariten> crimsun: i only want an easy version to set up samba share
[01:22] <spine> thx
[01:22] <crimsun> sybariten: sure
[01:22] <VeveshniK> nanotube eto na video pci-e
[01:22] <shawn> can i use gparted from live cd?
[01:23] <VeveshniK> nanotube na agp vsio abotaet
[01:23] <spine> its just ive heard plenty of success stories with wine, too bad i cant seem to find out how they made it work
[01:23] <navarone> shawn yes...but I have never used live cd...so mileage will vary
[01:23] <sybariten> crimsun: ok, but i presume this isnt possible from a livecd ?
[01:23] <bnD> anyone have an idea why ive lost the capability to access TTY1-6?
[01:23] <crimsun> sybariten: not under such low memory
[01:24] <stunna> crimsun ok one sec
[01:24] <navarone> sybariten, ctrl-alt-f6 does nothing?
[01:24] <bunga> The connection has timed out
[01:24] <shawn> so i could just resize right no while i'm running off live cd
[01:24] <navarone> sry...bnd
[01:24] <bunga> The server at ubuntuforums.org is taking too long to respond.
[01:24] <shawn> and windows will still stay?
[01:24] <cafuego> shawn: probably
[01:24] <spine> has anyone had any luck #D accelerating a second x-server for gamin on uvuntu?
[01:24] <spine> 3d*
[01:24] <shawn> okay
[01:24] <shawn> i'm resizing now
[01:25] <sybariten> crimsun: ok...
[01:25] <shawn> can anyone help me out with usign gparted
[01:25] <shawn> ?
[01:25] <Felix> Can somebody help me with setting the CC environment variable?  I'm trying to install something and this error comes up:  "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler"
[01:25] <shawn> to resize?
[01:25] <navarone> shawn...windows should be fine...but again degrag...you don't want windows data being stranded on new ubuntu partition...windows may take a fit
[01:25] <cafuego> shawn: Note: no implied warranty; do backups; blah blah...
[01:25] <Dreamglider> i just finished installing ubuntu (server install) and after that i installed xubuntu-dekstop, now when it was done i rebooted the system and got this > Code:    Bad EIP value     <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exceprion in interrupt
[01:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> spine: Have you checked http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=1554&iTestingId=295 ?
[01:25] <crimsun> Felix: install gcc-3.4, then use: export CC=gcc-3.4
[01:25] <Dreamglider> what can i do about it ?
[01:25] <shawn> i just defargged.. 2 days ago..
[01:25] <shawn> it shoulnd't hurt it right?
[01:25] <crimsun> Felix: wait, do you just need a compiler? Install build-essential then.
[01:25] <cafuego> shawn: It *can* destroy all your data, yes.
[01:26] <jean> how do you untar multiple tar files?
[01:26] <Maximus> so is the forum down or is it just me?
[01:26] <shawn> okay
[01:26] <bnD> navarone, nothing
[01:26] <crimsun> jean: use a for loop
[01:26] <bnD> so i cant close Display manager
[01:26] <shawn> can anyone tell me step by step in uisng gparted to do this?
[01:26] <bnD> if i close xserver
[01:26] <cafuego> shawn: The change is small, but IF it happens, YOU pressed return, we didn't ;-)
[01:26] <bnD> i just get a blank screen
[01:26] <nanotube> veveshnik: izvinite, no ya ne znakom s etoi problemoi...
[01:26] <bnD> but if i press power button
[01:26] <spine> has anyone had any luck 3D accelerating a second x-server for gamin on uvuntu?
[01:26] <bnD> i can access tty's while it shuts down
[01:26] <bnD> its locking me out somehow apparently :/
[01:26] <cafuego> jean: for file in *.tar.gz; do tar xfz "$file"; done
[01:26] <nanotube> veveshnik: dazhe ne znayu gde by nachat'.
[01:26] <VeveshniK> nanotube bivaet :(
[01:26] <RickKnight> So it isn't me, ubuntu is having problems?
[01:26] <shawn> can anyone?
[01:27] <shawn> please?
[01:27] <navarone> nano> russkiya?
[01:27] <shawn> i got gparted loaded up
[01:27] <shawn> and it sees my partion
[01:27] <bnD> my gf is bugging me
[01:27] <bnD> ill bbl
[01:27] <adusei16> does anybody know how to get your dvd things working
[01:27] <adusei16> ?
[01:27] <RickKnight> Ubuntu.org I maen.
[01:27] <bnD> hope someone has a thought on it
[01:27] <bnD> :/
[01:27] <shawn> running off of live cd
[01:27] <cafuego> shawn: I've never used it, so I'm out.
[01:27] <spine> shawn, does Gparted say ur drive is bussy, mine always does
[01:27] <nanotube> veveshnik: iz moskvy, no seichas zhivu v usa
[01:27] <shawn> no
[01:27] <shawn> my open
[01:27] <VeveshniK> nanotube a yest' kakaya nibyd' komanda alia fglrxconfig dlia ATI ... a mne nado dlia nvidia ?
[01:27] <shawn> and its hsoiwng it with no erors
[01:27] <shawn> i'm just scared
[01:28] <Maximus> Anybody here using Dapper?
[01:28] <cafuego> Can we please stick to english in here?
[01:28] <cafuego> Maximus: I am.
[01:28] <shawn> cause i used norotn partion magic.. and it erasesed everything
[01:28] <VeveshniK> nanotube ya iz minska
[01:28] <shawn> before
[01:28] <shawn> which was a pain
[01:28] <spine> shawn, well u wont fuck up untill u apply
[01:28] <jean> cafuego: where do i put that file?
[01:28] <jean> i mean line
[01:28] <ki4ikl> has anyone in here ever setup a webserver with a belkin router
[01:28] <shawn> although
[01:28] <shawn> norotn did say about a error in partiton
[01:28] <shawn> and asked me to continue
[01:28] <Dreamglider> adusei16, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=fullsearch&value=linkto%3A%22RestrictedFormats%22&context=180
[01:29] <cafuego> jean: In a shell.
[01:29] <nanotube> veveshnik: u menya v osnovnom opyt na console, na freebsd... tak chto vse eti graphics cards veschi ya ne znayu.
[01:29] <spine> how did u erase everything, i dont think u understand the concept of partitioning
[01:29] <jean> cafuego: oh i typed it..ok thanks
[01:29] <shawn> and i said yes without fixing the error i think thats what did it
[01:29] <jean> how do you run a java jar?
[01:29] <navarone> shawn you click in the partition display...where it shows /dev/hda(etc) and go to partition/Resize in menu
[01:29] <cafuego> nanotube/veveshnik: please?
[01:29] <shawn> yep
[01:29] <shawn> it sees my hard drive
[01:29] <shawn> and its say usage
[01:29] <shawn> the bar shows half udes
[01:29] <ki4ikl> has anyone ever started a webserver with a belkin router./????
[01:29] <navarone> jean "java -jar <filename.jar"
[01:29] <nanotube> cafuego: what's up?
[01:29] <CanadianSnow> hey people
[01:29] <shawn> *used
[01:29] <CanadianSnow> im back
[01:29] <cafuego> jean: 'java -jar foo.jar'
[01:29] <mwe> how do you join parts of a file that was split with the split command?
[01:29] <CanadianSnow> YEA!!!!
[01:30] <carpenike> So should I ask questions in here or would it be better for me to PM someone?
[01:30] <VeveshniK> nanotube jal' spasobo
[01:30] <cafuego> nanotube: Is there a specific language channel for spasobo?
[01:30] <Felix> crimsun: hey, here's the error I am getting.  /tmp/cNf14141/cNf14141.pos: line 8: gcc-3.4: command not found
[01:30] <Felix> *** The command 'gcc-3.4 -o conftest -g   conftest.c' failed.
[01:30] <Felix> *** You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler.
[01:30] <shawn> i'm resizing now
[01:30] <shawn> i hope it works
[01:30] <spine> shawn, just resize the partition to a couple more gigs than th used and ul have allot of free space, its point and click bro!
[01:30] <shawn> i'm not going to make it very big
[01:30] <cafuego> Felix: Well, install gcc-3.4
[01:30] <jean> cafuego: whats this? Exception in thread "main" java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: startup.jar at gnu.java.lang.MainThread.run() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.6.0.0)
[01:30] <nanotube> cafuego: i do not know, the dude just asked if someone could help him out in russian, i said yes... didnt know it was frowned upon in this forum.
[01:30] <ki4ikl> okay, at lest does anyone in here know much about webservers
[01:30] <carpenike> Because I'm trying to install dapper and I get a kernel panic right after I select to install it to the hard drive and it tries to load the kernel.
[01:30] <shawn> it says i got..
[01:31] <nanotube> veveshnik: ne za chto (bukval'no... ) :)
[01:31] <shawn> 4,981 mb free
[01:31] <Felix> how would I do that?  (noob here)
[01:31] <shawn> maybe i'll use 3
[01:31] <shawn> and leave 1 more extra gb for windows
[01:31] <cafuego> nanotube: Not if it's not much, but when it goes on for a while.. it might give the brazilians/mexicans/germans/french funny ideas ;-)
[01:31] <cafuego> !ru
[01:31] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:31] <shawn> then i gotta look for drivers
[01:31] <shawn> for ubutnu
[01:31] <shawn> i think
[01:31] <spine> windows wont use any extra that has not been allocated to it, that free space is useless
[01:32] <timfrost> Felix, in a terminal 'sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4'
[01:32] <spine> windows wont use any extra that has not been allocated to it, that free space is useless
[01:32] <nanotube> cafuego: haha ic
[01:32] <shawn> okay..
[01:32] <carpenike> Because I'm trying to install dapper and I get a kernel panic right after I select to install it to the hard drive and it tries to load the kernel.
[01:32] <shawn> i just rihgt cliked on my drive
[01:32] <stunna> http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?lndocid=LWIK-3Y74KT
[01:32] <shawn> and went resize
[01:32] <stunna> i'm trying to get this comp to get sound
[01:32] <stunna> in ubuntu
[01:32] <shawn> i now get..free space preceding..
[01:32] <nanotube> ki4ikl: depends on what you mean by "much" :)
[01:32] <shawn> new size
[01:32] <navarone> shawn that would be okay f you are not adding much more software in windows...plus windows needs freespace for swap as well...in fact so does ubuntu so you may not get a full 3gb usable
[01:32] <shawn> free space following
[01:33] <stunna> is there a way to get my sound card working on my laptop
[01:33] <shawn> what do i slete for those options?
[01:33] <ki4ikl> nanotube i pmed you
[01:33] <cafuego> carpenike: Can you please not /msg me without asking if you can?
[01:33] <spine> i dont noe about everyone else but i have a SWAP partition allocated
[01:33] <bunga> GUYS CAN HELP ME ABOUT THIS
[01:33] <bunga> gpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe
[01:33] <bunga> gpg: iobuf_flush failed on close: file write error
[01:33] <carpenike> I apologize.
[01:33] <cafuego> carpenike: (You can't)
[01:33] <shawn> navarone
[01:33] <navarone> shawn yes?
[01:33] <shawn> i got options here... its asking me for...
[01:34] <cafuego> carpenike: If dapper won't work, use Breezy. It's both stable *and* supported.
[01:34] <spine> navarone, i dont noe about everyone else but i have a SWAP partition allocated
[01:34] <shawn> free space preceding...
[01:34] <carpenike> Breezy wouldn't install either.
[01:34] <shawn> new size...
[01:34] <navarone> shawn I would not commit to anything just yet...you should still defrag windows
[01:34] <cafuego> Why not?
[01:34] <ki4ikl> nanotube i pmed you
[01:34] <shawn> free sapce following
[01:34] <carpenike> It gave me panics at the start as well.
[01:34] <spine> shawnm very true
[01:34] <shawn> what do i need for options
[01:34] <carpenike> Can a PC be too new for ubuntu?
[01:34] <shawn> i will defrag after i get how to do this
[01:34] <shawn> so i can do this later
[01:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carpenike: Not really... unless maybe you're using a MacIntel o_O
[01:35] <mwe> how would I split an 8GB file to two pieces and join the parts again? I need to burn it to dvd-rw
[01:35] <nanotube> ki4ikl: i replied to your pm
[01:35] <shawn> what do i change?
[01:35] <Felix> heh, so after I install gcc by using sudo apt, what next?  (I tried again, and still gave me the environment variable error.)
[01:35] <navarone> spine yes...I meant he needed to take into consideration the swap when resizing...the 3gb he resizes to will probably be 2.5gb if 500mb is allocated to a swap partition
[01:35] <carpenike> Kay's, than in that case it shouldn't be my hardware...
[01:35] <ki4ikl> i didn't recive it nanotube, ah well, anyway, i can't get it to portfoward, on port 80, any way to change the port that apache uses
[01:35] <ki4ikl> ?
[01:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carpenike: Do you have an ATI video card?
[01:35] <carpenike> Or at least not an incompatability.
[01:35] <cafuego> carpenike: Did you run the hardware check that comes as boot option on the cd?
[01:35] <carpenike> NVidia.
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carpenike: Good choice :)
[01:36] <shawn> anyobdy tell me how to do this?
[01:36] <carpenike> It's PCI ex though.
[01:36] <carpenike> Does that make a difference?
[01:36] <spine> navarone i sometimes forget does things come naturally to us more advanced users
[01:36] <navarone> shawn I thought you were thru?
[01:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> carpenike: I don't think so.
[01:36] <shawn> what do i do for the free space precing option.. (in mb)
[01:36] <cafuego> carpenike: Nah, pci-e == agp == pci
[01:36] <nanotube> ki4ikl: ah sorry. well, if you open up apache.conf file, there is a line that says to listen to port 80. just change 80 to any other port.
[01:36] <shawn> didn't resize yet
[01:36] <cafuego> just runs at higher speeds, with more bandwidth.
[01:36] <carpenike> Ah's okays.
[01:36] <jbzz> shawn:  I think waht you are seeing is a question about how you would like to allocate the free space.  You have more freespace than you want to use
[01:36] <navarone> spine I am advanced like a case of pneumonia...<s>
[01:36] <ba> will ubuntu support my dlink wireless g card?
[01:37] <cafuego> ba: Depends on the card model number
[01:37] <carpenike> And no I didn't run the hardware compatability. Is that on both the dapper and the breezy cds?
[01:37] <nanotube> ki4ikl: check this link for details: http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.0/bind.html
[01:37] <ba> DWL-G510
[01:37] <jbzz> shawn:   So it is asking you if you want to leave the extra free space in front of or behing the partition you are making.
[01:37] <cafuego> ba: CHnages are it wopn't, unless you use the windows drivers and ndiswrapper.
[01:37] <Felix> Can somebody help me with setting the CC environment variable?  I'm trying to install something and this error comes up:  "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler"  I dloaded gcc by sudo apt-get, and it still gives the error
[01:37] <navarone> shawn I'm sry what is the precing option?
[01:37] <spine> navarone, and thats what i meant
[01:37] <shawn> okay
[01:37] <navarone> spine then we agree...<s>
[01:37] <ki4ikl> okay
[01:37] <shawn> theres three different boxes i can change
[01:37] <shawn> ones..
[01:38] <shawn> free space precind (in mb)
[01:38] <shawn> another is..
[01:38] <shawn> new size (in mb)
[01:38] <CanadianSnow> How Do I Find Out What Sound Card I Have?? Ubuntu Cant Find My Sound Card!?!!?!?! Could Someone Please Help!!!!
[01:38] <shawn> and the last one is...
[01:38] <cafuego> Marvel chipset; yeah ndiswrapper only.
[01:38] <crimsun> CanadianSnow: how old is the computer?
[01:38] <shawn> free space foloowing(in mb)
[01:38] <grndslm> anybody in here have the Dell 2405fpw???
[01:38] <shawn> what do i put in for each option?
[01:38] <navarone> shawn you want  to change the second box to 7gb...that will free 3gb for ubuntu
[01:38] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: 'lspci'
[01:38] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: Feel free to NOT paste the output.
[01:39] <shawn> so 7000 mb?
[01:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> lol cafuego
[01:39] <navarone> shawn yes
[01:39] <shawn> so i change the new size to.. 7000 mb.
[01:39] <stunna> hey
[01:39] <shawn> and then hit okay
[01:39] <navarone> shawn yes
[01:39] <jbzz> shawn:  Now think about that.  It is asking you how much free space you want to leave in front of the new partition and ...
[01:39] <stunna> how do you make the kernal do sound in emulatiom mode?
[01:39] <jbzz> shawn:  how much you want to leave behind the new partition.
[01:40] <shawn> do i leave the free space preceding to 0 mb.. and the free space following to 0 mb?
[01:40] <shawn> all i want is window son one partion.. and ubuntu on antoehr
[01:40] <navarone> hmmm..shawn when you say preceding...do you mean before changes? Or do you mean where to make new space on drive?
[01:40] <ba> CanadianSnow: where in canada are you from
[01:40] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stunna: www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063 has a HOWTO for you, but the site is temporarily down.
[01:40] <shawn> it gives me those options when i clicked on resize
[01:40] <stunna> PuMpErNiCkLe ok
[01:40] <stunna> i doubt it will be there tho
[01:40] <spine> navarone, i wonder if u can help me out on this one, i cant seem to get 3d acceleration of a second xserver, i can run xterm for example but no games
[01:40] <shawn> so do i just change the new size to 7000mb and leave the other 2 options alone?
[01:41] <stunna> but who knows
[01:41] <SWAT> evening all. How can I use "locate" with disregard of case?
[01:41] <spine> navarone, is there any command line switch i should use
[01:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> stunna: Google has a cache of it - search for 'ubuntu esd alsa' and it's the first entry.
[01:41] <spine> navarone, launching X
[01:41] <shawn> wait
[01:41] <shawn> after i netered
[01:41] <shawn> in new size
[01:42] <navarone> spine do you mean you are using two cards for video?
[01:42] <stunna> ok
[01:42] <shawn> the free space folowinf incrased
[01:42] <shawn> its just telling me what sopace i got left
[01:42] <spine> navarone, no on oe monitor
[01:47] <spine> one*
[01:47] <Redeemer> ubuntu N00b here
[01:47] <dooglus> SWAT: "man locate", /case
[01:47] <nanotube> in your terminal, before running the installer, just type "CC=/path/to/gcc/"
[01:47] <nanotube> and then run installer. should work.
[01:47] <jjazz> OK, I've installed libdvdcss.  Totem says it's using libdvdcss to read /dev/dvd.  But it can't read title information.  mplayer complains of an encrypted VOB.  What else do I need to do to read this DVD?
[01:47] <ki4ikl> also how do i find the ip of my server?????????
[01:47] <navarone> spine what vidcard?
[01:47] <spine> ATI
[01:47] <navarone> !ati
[01:47] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:47] <shawn> so when i have the new size set to 6000... my free space is..3782...
[01:47] <shawn> is that good?
[01:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone know of a fuill feature audio conversion program, for ubuntu? with a gui?
[01:47] <navarone> spine have you tried this? Installed drivers?
[01:47] <spine> shawn, yea
[01:47] <SWAT> dooglus, thanks
[01:47] <ki4ikl> nanotube how do i check the ip of my server./
[01:47] <shawn> okay cool i now now how to use it
[01:47] <ki4ikl> ?
[01:47] <nanotube> ki4ikl: type ifconfig on the terminal, and look at the output (when you are on your server machine)
[01:47] <shawn> then i just goto resize..
[01:47] <shawn> and it resizes..
[01:47] <Redeemer> what happens when after I install ubuntu, I get a blank screen....then kicks me to console
[01:47] <carpenike> Hardware compatability Test, is that on the breezy CD?
[01:47] <shawn> it
[01:47] <shawn> then when i load up ubuntu installer
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: If you have free space, simply boot the install CD and tell it to use the largest free space.
[01:47] <nanotube> ki4ikl: the "inet" line is followed by the ip address
[01:47] <shawn> i chose to format the partion with what file format?
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: Mind you, boot windows first and make sure it all still works.
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: ext3
[01:47] <shawn> okay
[01:47] <spine> navarone, no doode, i mean i cannot get 3d acceleration of a "second" X-server, so i could be able to minimize in ALT+TAB fashion
[01:47] <diode> why afer i installed mythtv did my boot take about 5 min to load (stuck on Nautilus)?
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: But don't bother doing that in gparted, do it in the installer, later.
[01:47] <shawn> ext3 .. windows can't read ext 3 right?
[01:47] <navarone> shawn then when you load instller look for freespace that matches new partition size...i.e 3.7gb and tell installer to autopartition...
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: Yes, it can :-)
[01:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone know of a fuill feature audio conversion program, for ubuntu? with a gui?
[01:47] <shawn> okay
[01:47] <shawn> cool
[01:47] <navarone> spine...sry man I don't understand
[01:47] <shawn> i'm running gparted off live cd
[01:47] <spine> navarone, no doode, i mean i cannot get 3d acceleration on a "second" X-server, so i could be able to minimize in ALT+TAB fashion
[01:47] <shawn> it will still work right?
[01:47] <nanotube> jjazz: ive had similar problems playing dvds (and just about anything else) with totem. i gave up and installed wxvlc instead. (also installed mplayer, cuz it cant hurt to have an extra player just in case)
[01:47] <pinkisntwell> i can use nvclock to overclock my graphics card without su privilege.... why?
[01:47] <navarone> spine on rereading it...i still don't understand...sry
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: Yes, if you saved the partitoin info, just boot into windows now, checkit still works.
[01:47] <shawn> okay
[01:47] <shawn> i might be back later
[01:47] <ki4ikl> what file would apache be in?
[01:47] <ki4ikl> ?
[01:47] <shawn> thansk fora ll help
[01:47] <shawn> that was alot of help
[01:47] <shawn> thanks
[01:47] <navarone> good luck shawn
[01:47] <shawn> later
[01:47] <shawn> thanks
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: After that, boot the install cd and run through the steps (it's easy). Don't use LVM when it asks.
[01:47] <nanotube> ki4ikl: what do you mean what file? you mean, where is the executable?
[01:47] <bunga> hellloooooooo
[01:47] <shawn> what lvm?
[01:47] <bunga> can help about this holyshit
[01:47] <bunga> gpg: Total number processed: 1
[01:47] <bunga> gpg:              unchanged: 1
[01:47] <bunga> bash: sudo: command not found
[01:47] <bunga> gpg: [stdout] : write error: Broken pipe
[01:47] <bunga> gpg: iobuf_flush failed on close: file write error
[01:47] <shawn> aband after i do this when i start comp.
[01:47] <ki4ikl> the config flie
[01:47] <ki4ikl> file
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: an unneccesary pain in the ass for desktop machines.
[01:47] <shawn>  it will ask whcich operating systme to start right?
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: Indeed, you'll be able to pick WinXP or Linux.
[01:47] <ki4ikl> nanotube i mean the config file
[01:47] <fid|sn> what's the easiest way to rip an mp3 with a stock install of breezy?
[01:47] <spine> navarone, i mean to launch "2" x-servers but when i do "export $DISPLAY --:0.1 and launch quake it says the second xserver has no openGL
[01:47] <shawn> i got 98 se
[01:47] <shawn> not xp
[01:47] <spine> so it cant
[01:47] <shawn> i run windows 98 se
[01:47] <carpenike> when trying to install breezy, I get the following error, "Found HC with no IRQ. Check Bios/PCI 0000:00:02.1 setup!
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: Ok, Win98 or Linux :-)
[01:47] <shawn> i can have both right?
[01:47] <nalioth> bunga: please edit your posts for language
[01:47] <nanotube> ki4ihl: usually in /etc/httpd/ or something like that. but every distribution puts it in different place, and since i do not run apache on ubuntu, i do not know exactly where it puts it. but /etc/httpd is a good place to check
[01:47] <cafuego> shawn: yep
[01:47] <Redeemer> HowcomeI get no display after install????
[01:47] <shawn> okay
[01:47] <shawn> i be back
[01:47] <fid|sn> lame's not available, to build it i need to first install a bunch of build tools.  toolame is available -- how do i use it with sound juicer?
[01:47] <shawn> in an hour
[01:47] <shawn> later
[01:47] <navarone> shawn you can install grub on floppy to if you want to avoid loading in mbr...may make things more palatable..that's how I boot up
[01:47] <shawn> hope i don't lose everything
[01:47] <shawn> later
[01:48] <spine> am i the only person who doesnt like the fact that it is impossible to alt-tab in gnome
[01:48] <torpedo|dog> spine, it's possible...
[01:48] <spine> not out of games
[01:48] <torpedo|dog> Ah.
[01:48] <nanotube> fid|sn: if you fire up synaptic and search for lame, it should come up, iirc. so there is no need to compile it from source.
[01:48] <dsl_> I have some trouble: installing process stops after rebooting. last line:
[01:48] <cafuego> spine: Maybe the only one who is unable to alt-tab in gnome?
[01:48] <navarone> spine are you gaming via wine/steam?
[01:48] <spine> navarone, i mean to launch "2" x-servers but when i do "export $DISPLAY --:0.1" and launch quake it says the second xserver has no openGL
[01:48] <spine> no
[01:48] <fid|sn> i've checked in synaptic, apparently everyone's freaking out over licensing issues, so it's not in the repository
[01:48] <Dreamglider> i just finished installing ubuntu (server install) and after that i installed xubuntu-dekstop, now when it was done i rebooted the system now i'm stuck here > Code:    Bad EIP value     <0>Kernel panic - not syncing: Fatal exception in interrupt
[01:48] <spine> no
[01:49] <spine> just quake3
[01:49] <Dreamglider> what can i do about it ?
[01:49] <Redeemer> My install just kicks me to console... no display comes up
[01:49] <navarone> sry spine not in my field of knowledge
[01:49] <spine> redeemer, "startx"
[01:49] <nanotube> fid|sn: did you remember to add the universe and multiverse repositories?
[01:49] <spine> thanks anyway
[01:50] <navarone> spine np
[01:50] <fid|sn> nanotube: i've added universe, i didn't add multiverse.  is it in there?  i'll check...
[01:50] <cra1g3r> could I please get some help with a new installation problem
[01:50] <nanotube> fid|sn: yes, its in multiverse (i just checked) :)
[01:50] <ki4ikl> nanotube will you please go to this address 192.168.2.2 and see if my server is up and running
[01:50] <cafuego> ki4ikl: hahaha!
[01:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu, tell cra1g3r about anyone
[01:51] <nanotube> ki4ikl: the ip address you gave me is an internal local ip
[01:51] <ki4ikl> how do i get the other?
[01:51] <nanotube> ki4ikl: give me the ip address of the external interface of your router
[01:51] <fid|sn> nanotube: i've just checked, i had already enabled multiverse (and i'm still not seeing it ??)...
[01:51] <torpedo|dog> ki4ikl, whatismyip.com
[01:51] <cafuego> ki4ikl: http://www.cc.com.au/ip.php
[01:51] <nanotube> ki4ikl: log in to your router config, and click the status link (or something similar)
[01:51] <nanotube> ki4ikl: or follow the two previous suggestions
[01:51] <spine> anyone know how launch games successfully on a second X-server, so you are able to CTRL+ALT+F6 of of the game onto Gnome
[01:51] <ki4ikl> 72.242.36.192
[01:52] <ki4ikl> that is it
[01:52] <CanadianSnow> crimsum, its like, really old, and lspci doesn't really work, "lspci" works, but doesn't find any audio
[01:52] <torpedo|dog> It works.
[01:52] <torpedo|dog> Erm
[01:52] <nanotube> ki4ikl: that looks better :) i will check.
[01:52] <stevenj> Is there anyone here that can tell me how to get dapper networking working after installation????
[01:52] <torpedo|dog> I see a router setup utility.
[01:52] <fid|sn> nanotube: the only repository still commented out in sources.list is "breezy-security universe"
[01:52] <nanotube> ki4ikl: wait, what's the port? didnt you say you wanted to change port?
[01:52] <navarone> ahh...spine...youa re trying to get another gui to work on ctrl-alt-f6 terminal...?
[01:52] <torpedo|dog> ki4ikl, I see a router setup utility, that's not good.
[01:52] <stevenj> there has to be some configuration thats setup right after install
[01:52] <ki4ikl> krap, wtf
[01:53] <ki4ikl> hmmmm
[01:53] <cra1g3r> I installed ubuntu, but when it attempts to boot (very first boot) I get the following error "ALERT! dev/sdf1 does not exist.  Dropping to a shell!"
[01:53] <cra1g3r> any help would be appreciated
[01:53] <bunga> # apt-setup
[01:53] <bunga> bash: apt-setup: command not found
[01:53] <nanotube> fid|sn: when i search in my synaptic for lame, by name, lame comes up. so i do not know what's up. did you try "reload" to refresh package list?
[01:53] <bunga> can help
[01:53] <CanadianSnow> is crimsum still here?
[01:53] <CanadianSnow> How Do I Find Out What Sound Card I Have?? Ubuntu Cant Find My Sound Card!?!!?!?! Could Someone Please Help!!!!
[01:53] <torpedo|dog> ki4ikl, try your router's config: "Utilities >System settings
[01:53] <ki4ikl> nanotube, what should i do?
[01:53] <torpedo|dog> that'll at least secure your router.
[01:53] <spine> navarone no im trying to get 3d support of a naked X terminal theres no gui its just a blank background and an X for a mouse
[01:53] <nanotube> ki4ikl: you probably enabled remote administration on your router
[01:53] <carpenike> Does Ubuntu require ATA to be enabled in the bios?
[01:54] <carpenike> IDE*
[01:54] <nanotube> ki4ikl: go look around in your configuration, and disable it
[01:54] <thundr> Which version of links has ssl/tls support?
[01:54] <ki4ikl> kk
[01:54] <nanotube> ki4ikl: since i dont have your exact router, cant tell you exactly where to go, but its somewhere in there.
[01:54] <torpedo|dog> ki4ikl, and set up port forwarding of port 80 to your computer.
[01:54] <spine> navarone, i dont want to launch 2 gnomes, a second x-server X-servers
[01:54] <torpedo|dog> nanotube, it's a Belkin ;)
[01:54] <stevenj> ok let me start with simple questions.  Is anyone using dapper currently?
[01:54] <fid|sn> yeah, i've reloaded it  grr.....
[01:54] <grndslm> hey guys, i'm trying to mount my external sata drive....but i can't exactly find the device file to fdisk it....who wants to take a look at my dmesg??
[01:55] <fid|sn> having both the binary and source repo's enabled shouldn't cause a problem, should it?
[01:55] <bunga> !info apt
[01:55] <ubotu> apt: (Advanced front-end for dpkg), section base, is important. Version: 0.6.40.1ubuntu9 (breezy), Packaged size: 1192 kB, Installed size: 3888 kB
[01:55] <bunga> !apt
[01:55] <ubotu> methinks apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[01:55] <Doomhammer> i'm getting some errors from my bash script: "Reading: command not found" ... what does this error mean ?
[01:56] <spine> navarone, do this for a sec, "X:1.0" in terminal (no quotes) then hit CTRL+ALT+F8
[01:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> anyone know of a fuill feature audio conversion program, for ubuntu? with a gui?
[01:56] <raymond> were would i go to down the codecks for the media player
[01:56] <nanotube> ki4ikl: i just checked your router config, its under your system settings... but it seems to be disabled already. something is screwy with your router...
[01:56] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: I found something that might help... next time you boot into Ubuntu and you hit the shell, try running 'modprobe BusLogic'
[01:56] <torpedo|dog> CanYouHelpMePlz, try Audacity.
[01:56] <navarone> sry spine I am slow tonight...why need opengl in terminal?
[01:56] <nanotube> torpedo|dog: haha yea...
[01:56] <jjazz> nanotube: Thanks.  I'll try wxvlc.  I just want to see March of the Penguins.  Is that so wrong? ;)
[01:56] <fid|sn> nanotube: it's updating every time i click "reload"...  is that correct?
[01:56] <torpedo|dog> Applications > Sound and Video > Audacity
[01:57] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe:  Thanks, I'll give it a shot
[01:57] <spine> navarone, it isnt a terminal what u should be seeing if u did as i said, in terminal type X:1.0
[01:57] <grndslm> dmesg gives this: "[4324431.272000]  SCSI subsystem initialized
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.286000]  Initializing USB Mass Storage driver...
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.297000]  scsi0 : SCSI emulation for USB Mass Storage devices
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.300000]  usb-storage: device found at 3
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.300000]  usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.300000]  usbcore: registered new driver usb-storage
[01:57] <spine> navarone, it isnt a terminal what u should be seeing if u did as i said, in terminal type X:1.0
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324431.300000]  USB Mass Storage support registered.
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.305000]    Vendor: WDC WD32  Model: 00JD-22KLB0       Rev: 08.0
[01:57] <torpedo|dog> jjazz, yes it is. The RIAA will come knocking at your door ;)
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.305000]    Type:   Direct-Access                      ANSI SCSI revision: 00
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.314000]  usb-storage: device scan complete
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.427000]  SCSI device sda: 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
[01:57] <Felix> hey, can somebody help me, I get an error when trying to install a file I get an error "You must set the environment variable CC to a working compiler."
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.427000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.445000]  SCSI device sda: 625142448 512-byte hdwr sectors (320073 MB)
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.445000]  sda: assuming drive cache: write through
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.445000]   /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0: unknown partition table
[01:57] <torpedo|dog> looks like ki4ikl has gotten to reconfigging his router.
[01:57] <navarone> !ops
[01:57] <grndslm> [4324436.480000]  Attached scsi disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"....so how do i mount the drive???
[01:57] <ubotu> [ops]  Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[01:57] <cafuego> grndslm: STOP PASTING
[01:58] <torpedo|dog> grndslm, use the pastebin
[01:58] <grndslm> huh???
[01:58] <grndslm> pastebin?
[01:58] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu, tell grndslm about pastebin
[01:58] <fid|sn> nanotube: when I search by name for "lame" i get [flamethrower, glame, systemimager-server-flamethr, toolame] 
[01:58] <fid|sn> glame doesn't seem to really be related to lame, at least by the description...
[01:58] <cafuego> grndslm: Next time try reading the channel topic.
[01:58] <nanotube> fid|sn: and no just "lame" eh? hmm...
[01:58] <Amaranth> grndslm: Please don't paste more than 3 lines into the channel. Use pastebin (ubotu just told you about it in a PM) instead.
[01:58] <grndslm> got it
[01:58] <nanotube> jjazz: heh, good luck :)
[01:59] <navarone> ty Amaranth
[01:59] <chv> hello.  are there decent spreadsheet apps for terminal?
[01:59] <CanadianSnow> How Do I Find Out What Sound Card I Have?? Ubuntu Cant Find My Sound Card!?!!?!?! Could Someone Please Help!!!!
[01:59] <spine> navarone, any success seeing X without gnome
[01:59] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: I told you 20 minutes ago.
[01:59] <fid|sn> nanotube: nope.  let me see if it's on the cd...
[01:59] <navarone> spine have you kiled gnome?
[01:59] <baunilhaBoy> hi
[01:59] <kristie> what do i do when it says "Error loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: Cannot open shared file: no such file or directory" <--what do you do about that?
[01:59] <ssstormy> does anyone here use Dapper?
[01:59] <cafuego> kristie: sudo apt-get install libsrdc++5
[01:59] <ssstormy> kristie, install that package
[01:59] <cafuego> ssstormy: I do.
[01:59] <baunilhaBoy> does Qtorrent works good with gnome?
[01:59] <kristie> thank you :)
[01:59] <ssstormy> (libstdc++)
[02:00] <nanotube> fid|sn: if you go to settings -> repositories in synaptic, does it list multiverse, under breezy badger (binary) ?
[02:00] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe: im new to linux, when you say "run the command" how exactly do I do that?
[02:00] <ssstormy> cafuego, do you think it's stable enough for regular use?  Do you have issues with it?  I'm debating whether to upgrade from breezy...
[02:00] <spine> navarone, why would i kill gnome if i plan to CTRL+ALT+F6 to it once i have quake running on CTRL+ALT+F7
[02:00] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: When it drops to the shell, type in the command and hit enter.
[02:01] <interfear> can i install ubuntu from a windows partition? i cant install from cd.. the install keeps crashing
[02:01] <CanadianSnow> cafuego what did u say?
[02:01] <carpenike> So Dapper doesn't like 2 gigs of ram.
[02:01] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe: ok, I tried that but it did nothing
[02:01] <ssstormy> interfear, yeah, just tell it to load from an iso once you get to "additional components to load"
[02:01] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: I said use 'lspci' and don't paste the results into the channel.
[02:01] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: It didn't give any output/error messages?
[02:01] <CanadianSnow> cafuego I told You It Doesn;t Work
[02:01] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe:  nothing
[02:01] <fid|sn> nanotube: i have "http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports (Binary) main restricted universe multiverse"
[02:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: try typing 'exit' now
[02:02] <thundr> I was just trying to install the nvidia driver (I used the instructions from the ubuntu wiki) on breezy and at the same time I followed the link to "How to enable suspend mode" or something similar on that page (I don't have the address since links doesn't support ssl/tls) and I restarted - I get the error "No screens found" along with the message saying line 67's bad and the option "1" isn't valid.  It's the line with BusID on it.
[02:02] <bunga> guys what command to upgrade from hoary to breezy ?
[02:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bunga: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:02] <ssstormy> cafuego, I know dapper won't be "stable" or anything like that because of it's nature, but will it give me bunches of issues?  are you satisfied with it?
[02:03] <navarone> spine I get command not found...but anyway I don't think I am the one to ask...I am not running games much in ubuntu
[02:03] <interfear> ssstormy: is it okay if my windows partition is NTFS or does it have to be FAT23?
[02:03] <spine> navarone,this is probably the worst approach as i dont want to run gnome on the second X-server, do you know how to launch 2 gnomes?
[02:03] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe: exit gives me a kernel panic
[02:03] <ardchoille> Anyone know why ubuntuforums.org is down or when they expect to have it up?
[02:03] <cafuego> ssstormy: Most stuff seems to work, yes.
[02:03] <cello_rasp> hmmm i dont have sound anymore.. in gnome: "no volume control element and/or devices found".. despite this ubuntu can still make that drum sound in gdm
[02:03] <spine> navarone the X is capital X:1.0
[02:03] <ssstormy> interfear, ubuntu can READ any partition you can probably come up with
[02:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: well then o_O
[02:03] <navarone> spine I tried both
[02:03] <interfear> hrmm..
[02:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cra1g3r: I'll keep searching, then...
[02:03] <torpedo|dog> ardchoille, good, it's not just me.
[02:03] <ssstormy> cafuego, are there any glaring issues?
[02:03] <CanadianSnow> How Do I Find Out What Sound Card I Have?? Ubuntu Cant Find My Sound Card!?!!?!?! Could Someone Please Help!!!!
[02:03] <cra1g3r> PuMpErNiCkLe: would it help to know that I'm installing to an external usb hard drive?
[02:03] <navarone> ardchoille, yes forums seem to be indisposed
[02:04] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: What is you childhood trauma?
[02:04] <spine> navarone, very weird, thanks anyway, laters
[02:04] <cello_rasp> what has happened to my sound??
[02:04] <ardchoille> navarone: :(
[02:04] <bunga> !upgrade
[02:04] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[02:04] <ardchoille> torpedo|dog: no, they are definitely down
[02:04] <CanadianSnow> cafuego what you told me to do DOES NOTHING
[02:04] <Hentai^XP> interfear keep the windows partition NTFS
[02:04] <Skwid> hey guys
[02:04] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: 'lspci' DOES do something.
[02:04] <navarone> CanadianSnow, did you try "lspci | grep audio" ?
[02:05] <CanadianSnow> cafuego not on my computer
[02:05] <nanotube> torpedo|dog: yea, looks like it. :)
[02:05] <CanadianSnow> navarone yes, and that does even more nothing
[02:05] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: And even if it didn't, you don't just IGNORE me and start repeating with far too many question marks. it's RUDE.
[02:05] <Skwid> I'm trying to setup an old computer as a ubuntu server, but the computer cannot boot from CD, so I found an old windows boot disk, but I can't get to the ubuntu CD, what should I do ?
[02:05] <navarone> wow...negative nothing
[02:05] <cafuego> navarone: Probably says 'Multimedia'
[02:05] <CanadianSnow> cafuego I wasn't Ignoring you, I responded to you and YOU didn't say anything
[02:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Can we kill the flamefest, please?
[02:05] <crimsun> CanadianSnow: yes, I'm still here, but I'm very busy atm so I can't respond immediately.
[02:06] <cafuego> CanadianSnow: So which multimedia controller does lspci say you have?
[02:06] <ssstormy> Skwid, there are boot disks provided by ubuntu, find them.  Might be on the CD itself
[02:06] <Skwid> ssstormy: ahah, and i stick the cd in the floppy drive ? :)
[02:06] <nanotube> fid|sn: that's what i have too. i can't think why you are having problems...
[02:06] <CanadianSnow> its cool crimsun thanks
[02:06] <musashiden> hmm, anyone knows when is the new ubuntu distro going to come out?
[02:06] <crimsun> CanadianSnow: if you don't have any idea what sound card you have in the system, please pastebin the output from lspnp -v
[02:06] <CanadianSnow> alright!
[02:06] <mazatl> Hello, I have a problem
[02:06] <mazatl> My bootscreen says kubuntu
[02:06] <mazatl> but I never changed it? HOw can I restore it to ubuntu?
[02:07] <CanadianSnow> Sorry for having to resort to this :p
[02:07] <fid|sn> crap
[02:07] <CanadianSnow> I really didn't mean to get anyone upset tho
[02:07] <this_unit> mazatl: you _do_ have a problem! you've got ktrolls in your boxen!
[02:07] <ssstormy> Skwid, no you find the bootdisks and make one and use the bootdisk to help you boot the cd
[02:07] <thundr> musashiden: it's going to be april or around there.
[02:07] <fid|sn> nanotube: well, i appreciate your help
[02:07] <fid|sn> guess i'll have to keep banging my head against it.
[02:07] <navarone> skwid you can try bootdisk.com  they ahve images for various bootdisks
[02:07] <fid|sn> thanks for trying!
[02:07] <musashiden> thundr: ok, thanks
[02:07] <CanadianSnow> lspnp: /proc/bus/pnp not available
[02:07] <CanadianSnow>  but isn't it lspci
[02:07] <thundr> musashiden: no problem
[02:08] <Skwid> ssstormy: ok, but i cant write floppies :S oh well ... guess it'll wait
[02:08] <mazatl> I intially installed ubuntu, but was curious about the kde desktop, so I installed kde, but I didnt like it, so I removed kde
[02:08] <crimsun> CanadianSnow: if your computer is really old, it'll have an ISA sound chipset instead of a PCI one
[02:08] <mazatl> but now the boot screen says kubuntu
[02:08] <mazatl> do you know how I can put ubuntu back?
[02:08] <jjazz> wxvlc throws an oss error: it can't open /dev/dsp.  I think this box uses alsa.  How can I tell wxvlc to use alsa?
[02:08] <nanotube> fid|sn: sorry i couldnt be of more useful assistance. :| but at any rate, even if you cant get at it from repository, you could find the binary .deb package for ubuntu and install it using dpkg, rather than compiling source.
[02:08] <crimsun> jjazz: install vlc-plugin-alsa
[02:08] <CanadianSnow> crimsun, i dont know what that means... but, how I do pastebin?
[02:08] <mazatl> and I keep getting pop ups saying kmix.xpm not found
[02:08] <thinkle> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu for a dual-boot setup on a brand new laptop, resizing the installed ntfs partition. The ubuntu partition disk fails to resize the disk ("Failed to create enough space for installation...") Is there a way to get more info on what went wrong and possibly fix this?
[02:08] <crimsun> !tell CanadianSnow about pastebin
[02:08] <jjazz> crimsun: thanks
[02:09] <ardchoille> CanadianSnow: http://pastebin.com/
[02:09] <nanotube> thinkle: hey tom, is that you?
[02:09] <Xenguy> mazatl: I'm interested in a solution too - I have the same issue, only with xubuntu :-)
[02:09] <navarone> okay time for me to head out take care folks paka nanotube
[02:09] <thundr> mazatl - are kubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-artwork uninstalled?
[02:09] <thinkle> nanotube: Yup.
[02:09] <crimsun> jjazz: then you'll probably need to make the vlc preferences use ALSA
[02:09] <mazatl> yes thundr
[02:09] <nanotube> navarone: later!
[02:09] <ardchoille> crimsun: sorry about that, didn't know ubotu had it
[02:09] <this_unit> mazatl: damnit, with the forums down all my resources are at 1/8th..
[02:09] <crimsun> jjazz: make sure you enable advanced options
[02:09] <carpenike> Does anybody have any workarounds for a SATA cdrom drive that the install wont detect?
[02:09] <nanotube> thinkle: haha wow, fancy seeing you here :) i just logged in to ask a question, and kinda got sucked in trying to answer others
[02:09] <thinkle> nanotube: If I can keep this windows install around, I can start debugging Gourmet-on-windows on my own.
[02:10] <mazatl> thunder,Im mistaken its not
[02:10] <kristie> cafuego: thank you that fixed my problem :)
[02:10] <mazatl> kubuntu-artwork-splash is still installed thundr, if I remove it, will the regular ubuntu be back on?
[02:10] <thundr> mazatl - that should be at least part of your problem.  2nd ?: Yes.
[02:10] <mazatl> thanks alot
[02:11] <nanotube> thinkle: i can certainly see where your habit of typing a name in front of the line comes from, now that ive been here for an hour or so ;)
[02:11] <mazatl> brb
[02:11] <benb> can anyone tel me how to enable telnet server on my 5.10 box?
[02:11] <TheDonn> benb, install the package
[02:11] <cafuego> benb: You need to install the telnet server. Avoid if yoiu can and use ssh instead.
[02:11] <bnD> can someone help me out pls? ive lost the ability to switch to terminals 1-6 when im in my display manager, which loads at boot.. so im unable to get to a console without display manager running :/
[02:11] <Xenguy> benb: kill telnet and use ssh
[02:12] <benb> okay
[02:12] <nanotube> thinkle: i dont think i can help you out with the partition resize... but i was under the impression that you were doing a fresh install of win. why did you make it so large that it needed resizing?
[02:12] <benb> thanks
[02:12] <Xenguy> bnD: Ctrl-Alt-BkSpc  ?
[02:12] <thinkle> nanotube: I'll try defragging the windows drive first as the instructions say. I assumed I could skip this step since the windows set up is brand spanking new.
[02:12] <bnD> Xenguy, takes me back to the login
[02:12] <thundr> Can someone help me with a "no screens found" Xorg error?
[02:12] <CanadianSnow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7347  ???
[02:12] <thinkle> nanotube: I'm hoping I can keep the factory-installed XP setup so I don't have to do any tweaking.
[02:12] <Xenguy> bnD: wow, and Ctrl-Alt-F2 won't work?
[02:12] <cafuego> thundr: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:13] <cafuego> thundr: tell it about your hardware.
[02:13] <bnD> if i press it three times it kills the DM, but then i just have a black screen, the only time i can get to console is when the system is shutting down.. THEN ctrl+alt+f1-6 work
[02:13] <bnD> Xenguy, ^
[02:13] <bnD> for the 4 sec it takes to shutdown
[02:13] <bnD> :/.
[02:13] <jughead> I've a quick question - I'm new to kubuntu
[02:13] <bnD> and because i cant login to root
[02:13] <bnD> i cant halt from the DM
[02:13] <bnD> :l
[02:13] <nanotube> thinkle: aah ic. well, back in my old freebsd days, i recall having to defrag and make sure to put everything at the beginning of the partition, so that the end could be neatly "sliced off".
[02:13] <TheDonn> Hey all, whats the scenario with this..I have a box that Im dual booting breezy and xp, the bootloader is grub, I want to install xp media edition to try out with the nex xbox 360, how will this screw up the boot loader or will it, plus is it easy to resolve?
[02:13] <thundr> cafuego: I was following the wiki instructions for installing the nvidia driver and enabling suspend.
[02:14] <bnD> Xenguy, any thoughts?
[02:14] <Xenguy> bnD: maybe you can logon with 'linux single', then disable gdm with 'apt-get remove gdm'  ?
[02:14] <CanadianSnow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7347  ???
[02:14] <thinkle> nanotube: Do you know off hand how I run the windows defragmenter?
[02:14] <jughead> I just installed kubuntu, but there was no mention of setting a root password
[02:14] <cafuego> thundr: Is nvidia-glx installed?
[02:14] <bnD> Xenguy, linux single?
[02:14] <mazatl> thunder, it didnt work :\ kubuntu is still there
[02:14] <cello_rasp> it seems that something is blocking use of my sound card... how do i fix this? my Multimedia audio controller is detected btw
[02:14] <jughead> is that a problem?
[02:14] <nanotube> thinkle: i suppose even a stock install has some fragmentation going on... before defragging, you could look at it with a disk analyzer to see if it is indeed fragmented.
[02:14] <mazatl> what is the other package you were talking about?
[02:14] <thundr> cafuego: it seems to have a problem with the BusID: "NvAGP" "1" line
[02:15] <thundr> cafuego: Yes.
[02:15] <Xenguy> bnD: I haven't actually tried 'linux single' with Ubu, but it might work; otherwise perhaps a bootdisk could be made to work
[02:15] <cafuego> thundr: Yes, NVAGP is a driver option, not a busid. In fact, remove the busid line altogether.
[02:15] <bnD> Xenguy, i think ill try remove WDM complete removal from synaptic, which will then force me to shutdown using the power button >_< then hopefully ill dump into a terminal upon boot, whereas i can reinstall wdm and hopefully this retardness wont re-occur :/
[02:15] <Rawplayer> anyone in here using windows 2003 with IIS 6 in combination with a samba share?
[02:15] <thinkle> nanotube: 4% "total fragmentation", 9% "file framentation"
[02:15] <bnD> ill try that
[02:15] <bnD> brb
[02:15] <TheDonn> anyone?
[02:15] <TheDonn> Hey all, whats the scenario with this..I have a box that Im dual booting breezy and xp, the bootloader is grub, I want to install xp media edition to try out with the nex xbox 360, how will this screw up the boot loader or will it, plus is it easy to resolve?
[02:15] <thundr> cafuego: okay - It used to be pci(0000) or something like that.  I'll get rid of it.
[02:15] <Skwid> can i browse the cd on the internet ?
[02:15] <CanadianSnow> guys??? can it see a card?
[02:15] <Skwid> please
[02:15] <timmy_> Hi all
[02:15] <nanotube> thinkle: hmm, well, the default windows defragmenter kinda sucks, so i would recommend you get another one. but if not... there is a commandline tool called "defrag"
[02:16] <Xenguy> bnD: yeah, that makes sense, if you can just remove *dm, then do that (you can re-install later)
[02:16] <timmy_> is there a way to see what speed my processor is running at?
[02:16] <nanotube> run "defrag /?" to get the help on the options, thinkle
[02:16] <torpedo|dog> sqwid: what do you mean?
[02:16] <thinkle> timmy_: cat /proc/cpuinfo, I believe.
[02:16] <nanotube> thinkle or just use the gui, i think they use the same underlying engine (since you appear to have found the gui)
[02:16] <bnD> TheDonn, install xp, then reinstall grub
[02:16] <raymond> what do i need to play mp3's
[02:16] <bnD> assuming you have a partition for it
[02:16] <bnD> xp i mean..
[02:16] <thinkle> timmy_:  Ooh, nevermind -- that's what speed your processor is... hold on
[02:17] <thundr> cafuego, that was all it was.  I just did a "startx" and everything seems OK.  Thanks!
[02:17] <neiras> if someone could "/ctcp client" me, and paste me the results in a private message, I would appreciate it
[02:17] <nanotube> timmy_: or add the cpufreq applet to your gnome-panel :)
[02:17] <timmy_> I will try that
[02:17] <TheDonn> bnD, How do i reinstall grub tho?
[02:17] <thinkle> timmy_: cat /proc/acpi/processor/CPU1/throttling
[02:17] <raymond> were to download the decoders to play mp3's
[02:18] <Xenguy> !mp3
[02:18] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:18] <bnD> lolz
[02:19] <TheDonn> bnD, ?
[02:19] <bnD> i removed wdm
[02:19] <bnD> was in tty1
[02:19] <bnD> used startx
[02:19] <CanadianSnow> hello?
[02:19] <CanadianSnow> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7347  ???
[02:19] <bnD> and i still cant get to tty1-6
[02:19] <bnD> so it must be x
[02:19] <bnD> man
[02:19] <bnD> ;/
[02:20] <bnD> anyone know a way to restrict access to TTY1-6 in xorg.conf?
[02:20] <bnD> so i can remove any lines that may have somehow found there way in there :/
[02:20] <pestilence> what's the story on the forums
[02:20] <cafuego> aiyee!
[02:20] <pestilence> major hardware failure?
[02:20] <pestilence> hacked?
[02:20] <bnD> pestilence, ;p
[02:20] <bnD> i wish they were avail atm
[02:20] <bnD> :l
[02:20] <cafuego> pestilence: Bad karma
[02:21] <pestilence> lack of funding?
[02:21] <Skwid> can i browse the cd on the internet ?
[02:21] <TheDonn> After I install windows, how do I reinstall grub?
[02:21] <pestilence> cafuego: for me?
[02:21] <bnD> christ
[02:21] <bnD> i cant get to TTY's
[02:21] <cafuego> TheDonn: Via a rescue cd.
[02:21] <bnD> what a pain in the ass
[02:21] <cafuego> pestilence: No, for forums.
[02:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> TheDonn: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[02:21] <pestilence> cafuego: ah.
[02:22] <jay> where can i get a deb for firefox 1.5
[02:22] <TheDonn> cafuego, can I use the install cd?
[02:22] <haspo> abend
[02:23] <haspo> wer da?
[02:24] <jay> anyone?
[02:24] <haspo> jo
[02:24] <timmy_> Thinkle and Nanotube, thanks for your help
[02:24] <haspo> how can i run skype in ubuntu? it doesnt work!
[02:24] <CanadianSnow> Common guys, I put it in pastebin and everything
[02:24] <thinkle> timmy_: np
[02:24] <nanotube> timmy_: no prob :)
[02:25] <TheDonn> cafuego, can I use the install cd?
[02:25] <regin__> can anyone help me with "<0>kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt" ?
[02:25] <haspo> under skype the other side doesnt here me... its damned
[02:26] <haspo> can anybody help me=
[02:26] <haspo> ?
[02:26] <haspo> ^^
[02:26] <grndslm> does anybody here know if the multiple partitions that make up the logical group of an LVM partition need to be primary or extended???
[02:26] <ubuntu_> hello
[02:26] <ubuntu_> guys i'm back
[02:26] <haspo> supi
[02:27] <haspo> thats fine
[02:27] <ubuntu_> i got my partion rsized
[02:27] <haspo> does it work?
[02:27] <ubuntu_> without defragmenting.. and without losing any files!
[02:27] <ubuntu_> i didn't defrag
[02:27] <ubuntu_> i ran gparted off of live cd
[02:27] <haspo> ?
[02:27] <regin__> can anyone help me with "<0>kernel panic - not syncing: fatal exception in interrupt" the kernel is 2.6.12-9-386 and i get it in the boot process
[02:28] <ubuntu_> and all my windows files are there
[02:28] <haspo> wintendo?
[02:28] <ubuntu_> now all i gotta do is formtat with ext3 and install ubntu ... yah!
[02:28] <molotov> I'm trying to share some files. I've created a folder and shared it. From my windows box, I can see my computer, but it's under Mshome instead of Workgroup. I've changed the line in /etc/samba/smb.conf to reflect workgroup = workgroup, but it's still showing up as Mshome.
[02:29] <haspo> gay
[02:29] <chiddy> molotov, have you restarted samba: sudo /etc/init.d/samba restart
[02:29] <proj> can anyone tell me where I would be able to change the setting to start a terminal. I want to use Eterm when I hit the keyboard shortcut. Not gnome-terminal
[02:29] <jughead> how do I set a root password?  I didn't get a prompt when I installed
[02:29] <Xenguy> regin__: that's not good, but I'm not sure what to suggest offhand
[02:30] <molotov> chiddy: stopping samba dameons [ok] , starting, [fail]  :/
[02:30] <_jason> ubotu: tell jughead about root
[02:30] <mazatl> how can I set desktop wallpaper in fluxbox ?
[02:30] <mazatl> on ubuntu?
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[04:41] (fuze/#ubuntu) but from teh sound of my computer, nothings being processed
[04:41] (jbzz/#ubuntu) jcuse:   What format is it?  FAT32 or what?
[04:41] (sethk/#ubuntu) fuze, no, it shouldn't "sit there" for longer than a moment or two.
[04:41] (sethk/#ubuntu) fuze, the hard drive light is off?
[04:41] (thin/#ubuntu) send your my fstab
[04:41] (fuze/#ubuntu) yeah
[04:41] (jcuse/#ubuntu) I believe it is FAT32 but it might be the on NSFT one or whatever
[04:42] (rttm/#ubuntu) tried different drive, video card,
[04:42] (rttm/#ubuntu) i check the media and its seems good
[04:42] (fuze/#ubuntu) Am I supposed to type in some commands?
[04:42] <jbzz> jcuse:   How did you format that?  Using what?
[04:42] <fuze> to load Gnome or to finish unpacking or whatnot?
[04:42] <jcuse> jbzz formatted it when I installed windows
[04:43] <twitch101> does anyone have a .deb file of the video codecs for totem? i dont wanna download a whole other player cuz its a live disk
[04:43] <jbzz> jcuse:   What version of Windows?
[04:43] <thin> wintendo
[04:43] <rttm> is there a way to test and repair the install without reinstalling
[04:43] <jcuse> XP
[04:43] <Knelix2> for XFCE.... I go apt-get xfce (?)
[04:43] <jcuse> sp1
[04:43] <neoxan> vagina?
[04:43] <jcuse> jbzz XP sp1
[04:43] <thin> ??
[04:43] <jbzz> jcuse:   I suspect that would be NTFS then  ... the default
[04:43] <neoxan> vagina?
[04:43] <neoxan> wtf
[04:43] <neoxan> sorry
[04:43] <thin> yo!
[04:43] <neoxan> wrong channel
[04:43] <jcuse> me?
[04:43] <jcuse> me thin?
[04:44] <sethk> rttm, if the install finished, you can repair anything without a reinstall
[04:44] <DaMac> is there a list of window managers for ubuntu? or is it just gnome and kde?
[04:44] <sethk> rttm, but the question is much too general to answer
[04:44] <timfrost> Knelix2, for the full suite, do 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop'
[04:44] <jcuse> jzbb I think so
[04:44] <sethk> DaMac, anything that can be used with any linux distro can be used with ubuntu
[04:44] <jcuse> jbzz i think so
[04:44] <rttm> ok will try that
[04:44] <Knelix2> timfros: Ah, thanks.
[04:44] <sethk> DaMac, and blackbox and fluxbox are certainly used extensively, along with a couple of others
[04:45] <jbzz> jcuse:   You would be able to read that but not write to it ... is that what you expected?
[04:45] <jcuse> no...
[04:45] <jbzz> jcuse:   NTFS can be read but I believe you cannot write to it.
[04:46] <DaMac> thanks guys
[04:46] <timfrost> !ntfs
[04:46] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[04:46] <jcuse> I could write to it on windows :(
[04:46] <Toma-> OMFG!!! i found a Socket A sempron :D~~ thank god for staticice.com.au
[04:46] <thin> maybe its easeyer to google it!
[04:46] <jughead> can someone repost the link about upgrading fo r firefox 1.5?
[04:46] <sethk> jcuse, you can still write to it on windows
[04:46] <Rip> Anyone have any experience switching video cards from ATI to NVidia?  I was wondering what I have to look forward to install-wise.
[04:46] <rttm> i get dpkg was interrupted you must manuall run dpkg -configure -a
[04:46] <timfrost> !ff1.5
[04:46] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:46] <jcuse> sethk I dont use windows anymore
[04:46] <jbzz> jcuse:   You will not be in Windows.
[04:46] <sethk> jcuse, then what possible use is there for NTFS?
[04:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Windows? o_O
[04:47] <twitch101> does anyone have a .deb file of the video codecs for totem? i dont wanna download a whole other player cuz its a live disk
[04:47] <thin> wintendo...
[04:47] <jcuse> sethk I am switching from windows to ubuntu
[04:47] <timfrost> !w32codecs
[04:47] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:47] <sethk> jcuse, then reading should be fine, you shouldn't need to write
[04:48] <jcuse> well could I take the stuff off of it put it on the already mounted HDD reformat the other one then be able to write on it?
[04:48] <thin> to a ntfs drive its hard to write with linux
[04:48] <jbzz> jcuse:  On what cable connection did you install your second hard drive?  The primary cable and the slave connector?
[04:48] <sethk> jcuse, sure, once you change it to a different type of file system.
[04:48] <jcuse> Slave
[04:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> You can write to ntfs (with a few small limitations) if you have linux kernel 2.6.15.
[04:49] <sethk> jcuse, in ubuntu we mkfs, we don't format
[04:49] <jbzz> jcuse:   You could read the files off after mounting.
[04:49] <jcuse> mkfs?
[04:49] <sethk> jcuse, yes.  it means "make file system"
[04:49] <Falstius> sethk: I copied the flash lib from my laptop, running rhel3 and mozilla 1.0.7, to another computer running ubuntu with the same flashplayer and it still crashes :-/
[04:49] <twitch101> thanks
[04:49] <fuze> make file system?
[04:49] <Falstius> er with the same firefox.
[04:49] <jcuse> well that
[04:49] <jcuse> Im new >_< sorry
[04:49] <fuze> this is why teh worlds will never meet
[04:49] <sethk> Falstius, you are running mozilla 1.0.7 on ubuntu?
[04:49] <jcuse> < linux newbie
[04:50] <fuze> I think there needs to be standards
[04:50] <jcuse> took me two days to get my screen resolution to 1200x1000 (approx)
[04:50] <sethk> fuze, why?  because windows used the wrong term for make file system?
[04:50] <sethk> fuze, the unix term is only 30 years older than the windows term.
[04:50] <sethk> jcuse, really?  took me two minutes.
[04:50] <fuze> true
[04:50] <psusi> microsoft still calls it "formatting" which is incorrect technically... formatting is what the drive manufacturer does before they ship it... end sers can't format hard drives these days
[04:50] <rttm> i get dpkg was interrupted you must manuall run dpkg -configure -a  and when i tried that i get an error
[04:51] <sethk> jcuse, I can't imagine anything easier.  I just brought up the dialog and selected the resolution.  Easier than windows, actually.
[04:51] <jcuse> took me a day to figure how to write to the stupid xorg.conf file
[04:51] <fuze> its really too bad then
[04:51] <uber_spaced> psusi, is that a challenge? :)
[04:51] <fuze> the majority is incorrect
[04:51] <psusi> uber_spaced, eh?
[04:51] <sethk> jcuse, very unlikely that you needed to.
[04:51] <jcuse> I couldnt go past 1000x700 resolution
[04:51] <jcuse> and I tried to auto detect
[04:51] <war-totem> psusi: what are the benefits to formatting as opposed to resinstalling?
[04:52] <flodine>  anyone transcode movies here?
[04:52] <fuze> do macs make file systems or do they format?
[04:52] <uber_spaced> psusi, nah, you said end users cant format hard drives these days, do you mean because the controllers prevent such a low level operation? or because something else makes it transparent?
[04:52] <jcuse> but dbzz how do I mount my second drive1?!?!
[04:52] <jcuse> dbzz sorry if you already told me but i missed it
[04:52] <psusi> uber_spaced, because the drive doesn't support the operation
[04:52] <jbzz> jcuse:   Where did you hook the second hard drive.  On the sprimary cable as the slave drive?
[04:52] <sethk> psusi, well, you _can_ reformat if you know how, but you are correct, and that isn't what people want to do at all.  :)
[04:52] <psusi> war-totem, you start with a clean slate when you blow away and recreate the filesystem
[04:53] <jcuse> Yes jbzz
[04:53] <war-totem> psusi: is this healthier for the drive?
[04:53] <uber_spaced> psusi, you mean hardware wise? when you say format do you mean align the whatevers?
[04:53] <shantanu> ok.. i have a 64 bit processor but i'm running a normal KUbuntu on it... i got an
[04:53] <shantanu> ATI CaRD and want to install drivers .. which ones should I install
[04:53] <uber_spaced> oh well
[04:53] <psusi> sethk, maybe... if you know the super secret command codes that are specific to each manufacturer, and usually also have to flip a jumper on the drive...
[04:53] <jbzz> jcuse:   And how many partitions do you have on that second hard drive?
[04:53] <djs_2_6> Hey guys.  When I was on here a while back, someone gave me a cli command to monitor everything on a network interface.  Anyone know what that command is?
[04:53] <jcuse> one jbzz
[04:53] <shantanu> the ones for x86 or x86_64?
[04:53] <n00b> Whats the best dvd player tool with the nicest GUI?
[04:53] <Rodietze> hey I've installed windows again and now It has overrided the boot screen
[04:54] <psusi> war-totem, drive doesn't care either way.... it can be healthier for the OS though because you clean out all the old crap
[04:54] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK   Then that would be called /dev/hdb1
[04:54] <sethk> psusi, there are format commands that are part of the standard IDE interface.
[04:54] <uber_spaced> n00b, try mplayer
[04:54] <war-totem> psusi: ah, thank you
[04:54] <n00b> uber_space: thx mate
[04:54] <sethk> Rodietze, reinstall grub
[04:54] <uber_spaced> it's available in the multiverse, i believe
[04:54] <shantanu> Rodietze, use the Boot cd that came with your KUbuntu and reinstall Grub
[04:54] <jbzz> jcuse:   That is the Primary cable, the slave drive the FIRST partition.
[04:54] <uber_spaced> to watch a dvd, just: mplayer dvd://1
[04:54] <Rodietze> sethk just grub?
[04:54] <sethk> Rodietze, yes
[04:54] <uber_spaced> they have better things to go with it, like gmplayer
[04:55] <timfrost> shantanu, the x86 drivers, unless you installed the 64-bit OS.
[04:55] <jcuse> so..../dev/hdb1       /home/jcuse/Desktop   xfs     defaults        0       0 jbzz?
[04:55] <flodine> anyone try intels dual core chip on ubuntu yet?
[04:55] <shantanu> Rodietze, you could later download Lilo and install that if you want
[04:55] <psusi> sethk, I believe that is not the case... they were there for MFM and RLL drives, but when IDE came out, they decided to preformat them at the plant and that's it... the internal formats of the drives became too complex and different from drive to drive to be able to do it outside the plant
[04:55] <Rodietze> sethk but when I try to install now Ubuntu doesn't show my partitions... just the entire disk... so I'm afraid of loosing my entire HDD ?
[04:55] <shantanu> timfrost, i did that... but theres a slight problem... my UT wont rtun normally .. i dont think the drivers are helping
[04:55] <jbzz> jcuse:  Well you have some options as to what you want to do.
[04:56] <timfrost> !ati
[04:56] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[04:56] <sethk> Rodietze, you mean you repartitioned your disk and erased ubuntu?
[04:56] <jbzz> jcuse:   You can just mount it and read it.  Then later you can get fancy and add it into   /etc/fstab
[04:56] <shantanu> timfrost, also... my XOrg shows I have some Radeon x300 series Display adapter but thats not listed on the ATI site
[04:56] <jcuse> what are they jbzz?
[04:56] <jcuse> what would adding it to ect/fstab do?
[04:56] <thinlizzy> hiho!
[04:57] <jbzz> jcuse:    That would allow that partition to be mounted automatically at boot
[04:57] <thinlizzy> /dev/hdb1       /home/stefan/Desktop   xfs     defaults        0       0
[04:57] <psusi> they don't make 'em like they used to... heh
[04:57] <thinlizzy> thats mine
[04:57] <Rodietze> sethk, no, I had ubuntu in the ext3 partition at hda6 but had win in hda1 and data in hda5, but after reinstalled windows on the hda1 grub was gone and Ubuntu istaller doesn't give me the option to choose hda6 (ext3) anymore
[04:57] <timfrost> shantanu, in that case, the ATI driver won't work.  Can you go back to the driver the install defaulted to?
[04:57] <jbzz> jcuse:    But you do not need to do that right now.
[04:58] <sethk> Rodietze, that does indicate a problem
[04:58] <jcuse> how do i mount it and read it now?
[04:58] <djs_2_6> Anyone know that command to monitor a network interface?
[04:58] <jbzz> jcuse:   You can just mount it for now and read it.
[04:58] <Rodietze> sethk oh no! another problem nooo :P really?
[04:58] <jcuse> how jbzz :)
[04:58] <hubbadub> jesus christ psusi, did you have to manually install the vacuum tubes too?
[04:58] <shantanu> timfrost, i guess....
[04:58] <thinlizzy> brum
[04:58] <jbzz> jcuse:   And if you can do that then you can enter the right info into   /etc/fstab
[04:58] <psusi> hubbadub, lol... naw, this was back in the 386 days... not THAT long ago ;)
[04:58] <sethk> Rodietze, if the partition was overwritten, that's certainly a problem.  Installing windows shouldn't do that, but it isn't all that difficult a mistake to make
[04:59] <shantanu> timfrost, you think the default driver is better suited for the game?
[04:59] <jcuse> Ok after I write the info in to /ect/fstab then I reboot?
[04:59] <jariep1__> where does the ddclient.conf file go after I edit the example?
[04:59] <jbzz> jcuse:   You need to make or choose a mount point.  That is where we will mount it.
[04:59] <jcuse> i chose /mount/jcuse/Desktop jbzz will that make it appear on my desktop?
[04:59] <Rodietze> sethk oh its not overriden... just doesn't appear
[04:59] <jbzz> jcuse:   You can create a mount point (a simple directory) or maybe use one that already exists.
[05:00] <sethk> Rodietze, the only way I know of to make it "not appear" is to rewrite the partition table without it.
[05:00] <Dr_Willis> jcuse,  that will Replace your Desktop. :P ya dont want that
[05:00] <sethk> Rodietze, if in fact it isn't overwritten, and you know the boundaries, you can re-establish it with fdisk
[05:00] <timfrost> shantanu, I don't know.  I don't have an ATI card.  Have a look at the ATI howto on the wiki ( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI)
[05:00] <jbzz> jcuse:   Well I don't really know about that.
[05:00] <jcuse> how do i mount it so that Its like an icon on my desktop jbzz?
[05:01] <Rodietze> sethk oh thankks, so I'll try :)
[05:01] <sethk> Rodietze, but I'm still a bit confused.  If you had installed ubuntu and used /dev/hda5, why are we talking about hda6?
[05:01] <sethk> Rodietze, or did I get that wrong
[05:01] <jbzz> jcuse:   Maybe   Dr_Willis has the answer there.  I do not do that.
[05:01] <djs_2_6> Anyone know that command to monitor a network interface?
[05:02] <sethk> jcuse, you can create a shortcut which starts a file browser with that file system as the initial directory, if you like.
[05:02] <jbzz> jcuse:   I just mount my seconds hard drive when I want to use it and   cd   (change directory) to it when I want to use it.
[05:02] <wasan> ok
[05:02] <jcuse> How can I mound it where I can see it when I go to system computer ?
[05:02] <wasan> ubuntu is the most popular linux distro correct?
[05:02] <jcuse> placs computer*
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> jbzz,  mkdir /home/whatever/MyStuff
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> wasan,  its very popular.
[05:03] <n00b> according to www.distrowatch.com , yes ubuntu is the most popular
[05:03] <Dr_Willis> jbzz,  then mount it there.
[05:03] <n00b> Does anyone know where i can get a "free" version of cedega?
[05:04] <jcuse> I think that was ment for me not jbzz
[05:04] <jcuse> thanks Willis
[05:04] <jbzz> jcuse:   DId you see that response fro Dr_Willis?   He states you should make a directory called /home/YourName/MyStuff and mount it there
[05:04] <jcuse> Thanks jbzz
[05:04] <jcuse> Yes
[05:04] <fuze> Until Linux, Unix, or any other operating system installs and functions for the average end user I'll be sticking with Windows. Commands and Unix terms are nice for system administrators but for anyone else theres this modern advancements such as GUI's and frontends
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  the CVS version is free.
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> n00b: although that site only tells you which distro is getting the most attention currently, not which has the most users.
[05:04] <jcuse> Thanks thin and sethk too
[05:04] <Dr_Willis> but cedega is decently cheap :P
[05:04] <Rodietze> sethk well lemme explain u again anyways heh, I have 3 partitions here, hda1 = ntfs that has windows on it, hda5 = ntfs taht has data on it and hda6 = ext3 that has ubuntu, but since I had to format hda1 yo reinstall windows the grub was gone, and I can't use Ubuntu anymore coz windows boots automatically
[05:04] <wasan> are there any numbers that can be provided that it is th most popular
[05:04] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu 5.04
[05:04] <flashnet[BNC] > n00b amule ;)
[05:04] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu 5.04 have open GL ?
[05:04] <jughead> I'm trying to install superkaramba on kubuntu, but I keep getting a message compiler cannot create executables
[05:05] <n00b> tonyyarusso, yes thats true... i would have thought that FC or Red Hat would have been the most popular
[05:05] <jughead> Which compiler do I need to get?
[05:05] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK then make a directory in your user's home directory called MyStuff
[05:05] <jcuse> brb
[05:05] <n00b> Dr_Willis: thx
[05:05] <n00b> flashnet[BNC] : How big is the file? Is it the 600MB one?
[05:05] <Rodietze> sethk but when I try to reinstall Ubuntu the installer gives me just on choice, the entire hdd as 'HDA 80GB', so I'm afraid coz before I used to have the 3 partitions
[05:05] <tonyyarusso> fuze: GUI and install seem as good as Windows to me.  The only thing I really needed was a modem driver, because at first I was at home on dialup.
[05:06] <timfrost> !grub
[05:06] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[05:06] <ubuntu_> Ubuntu 5.04 have open GL ?
[05:06] <n00b> Yeah cedega is cheap... but i dont have a credit card :P
[05:06] <neiras> Wow, the Dapper logout dialog is like a cruddy imitation of Windows XP with too many options
[05:06] <jbzz> Dr_Willis:   Thanks for the input.
[05:06] <Dr_Willis> proberly was :P
[05:06] <timfrost> Rodietze, see  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:06] <neiras> n00b, check your private messages
[05:06] <n00b> neiras: how do i do that? im a noob sorry...
[05:06] <flashnet[BNC] > n00b i dont think so... but i dont use cedega I tested it few months ago
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> Rodietze: Check the manually edit partition table option.
[05:07] <n00b> flashnet[BNC] : Oh really... what was it like? How big do you think cedega would be
[05:07] <Dr_Willis> fuze,  'average  user' = total idiot - from MS's point of view.. and they still screw things up
[05:07] <cafuego> neiras: ugly, isn't it?
[05:07] <AZbaer> Question about printing to a Fedora box from Ubuntu
[05:07] <frazmanw> Anyone have a way to install cube into ubuntu? it is not in apt repository.
[05:07] <neiras> cafuego, it's horrible
[05:08] <cafuego> neiras: Incidentally, don't upgrade right now.
[05:08] <fuze> not a complete idiot
[05:08] <jcuse> jbzz I think i did something wrong cause I wrote the information to fstab but its not there still, I logged out and back in and still not there, do I have to restart my entire computer? or did I miss a step?
[05:08] <flashnet[BNC] > cedega is great...u can emulate most of the windoze games on it
[05:08] <neiras> cafuego, what's the problem at the moment?
[05:08] <wasan> NEEDLESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
[05:08] <jcuse> jcuse, hello
[05:08] <wasan> what the duece
[05:08] <cafuego> neiras: X is broken, 7.0 is on the way in. File locations have changed.
[05:08] <jbzz> jcuse:    I think you might need to go slower.
[05:08] <neiras> cafuego, thanks for the heads up
[05:08] <fuze> I consider myself an "advanced" computer user, but everything i've taught myself has been through windows
[05:08] <jcuse> jbzz ???
[05:08] <cafuego> neiras: (You *can* symlink Xorg to X manually and make it work again)
[05:09] <Rodietze> timfrost Thanks!!!!
[05:09] <jbzz> jcuse:   You should do a manual mount first and prove that you have the correct settings before entering anything into fstab
[05:09] <neiras> cafuego, ah, not such a big issue then. I have an install from FLight 3 cds that works, but was going to upgrade from breezy on this machine
[05:09] <AZbaer> I cant seem to get my Ubuntu box to print to a fedora box
[05:09] <jcuse> how do I do manual mount?
[05:09] <fuze> linux isnt easy to get into
[05:09] <jughead> I'm trying to install superkaramba on kubuntu, but I keep getting a message compiler cannot create executables
[05:09] <Dr_Willis> fuze,  i learned more from using Linux then i ever learned from windows. :P
[05:09] <jbzz> OK  lets take it slowly.
[05:09] <jughead> Which compiler do I need to get?
[05:10] <Dr_Willis> fuze,  yes it is. :P
[05:10] <jbzz> jcuse:   Did you make a directory called MyStuff in your home directory?
[05:10] <tonyyarusso> neiras: How is flight 3?
[05:10] <bimberi> jughead: install build-essential
[05:10] <flashnet[BNC] > <Dr_Willis> fuze,  i learned more from using Linux then i ever learned from windows. :P OBVIUSLY :)
[05:10] <jcuse> nope, how do i?
[05:10] <neiras> tonyyarusso, pretty much the same as breezy except for a few minor changes (from a user's perspective)
[05:10] <odat> hi everyone
[05:11] <neiras> The logout and update dialogues are now ugly as @#*#
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> fuze: I managed.  I picked it up in August starting from no knowledge whatsoever, and can do more in it now than I could in Windows.
[05:11] <azion> !upstream
[05:11] <ubotu> azion: Are you on ritalin?
[05:11] <odat> neiras, i like them
[05:11] <tonyyarusso> neiras: Ah.  The installer was different too, right?
[05:11] <midwinter> neiras.. yeah, what's all that empty space for.. :|
[05:11] <jbzz> jcuse:   Are you in a command window?
[05:11] <jcuse> terminal?
[05:11] <jbzz> jcuse:   Yes.
[05:12] <neiras> tonyyarusso, not hugely, a bit different on the early-startup stuff before the actual installer kicks
[05:12] <jcuse> Affirmative
[05:12] <jbzz> jcuse:   cd   /home/username     (insert your username] 
[05:12] <jughead> thanks bimberi
[05:12] <twitch101> !W32codecs
[05:12] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:12] <bimberi> jughead: np :)
[05:12] <jbzz> jcuse:     so it might be   cd   /home/jcuse
[05:12] <odat> i playing around with this old machine and i'm getting this two weird errors when starting that i don't now how to fix
[05:12] <jughead> I'm getting another prob now
[05:12] <jcuse> yup
[05:12] <jcuse> done
[05:12] <jughead> hecking for X... configure: error: Can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths!
[05:13] <neiras> man, the tango icons look great
[05:13] <odat> one is about not able to load acpi/fan.ko
[05:13] <jbzz> jcuse:   now    mkdir MyStuff
[05:13] <odat> send right after it is about not being able to load and or find acpi/thermal.ko
[05:13] <jbzz> jcuse:   That makes a directory called MyStuff
[05:13] <twitch101> !W32codecs
[05:13] <ubotu> methinks w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[05:14] <jcuse> Done
[05:14] <bimberi> jughead: xlibs-dev (i think)
[05:14] <n00b> How do i extract RAR files in linux?
[05:14] <bimberi> !rar
[05:14] <ubotu> [rar]  a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[05:14] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK    Now we can use that directory to 'hang' your hard drive on.
[05:14] <n00b> thx
[05:14] <jcuse> :)
[05:14] <jbzz> jcuse:    The next thing is to set up the proper 'mount' command.
[05:15] <malv> anyone know of a good software engineering channel?
[05:15] <neiras> Be cool if Ubuntu did seamless encrypted homedirs a la OSX
[05:15] <jcuse> jbzz: ok
[05:15] <odat> anyone have any ideas?>
[05:16] <jbzz> jcuse:    It will be something like this:     mount   /dev/hdb1   /home/jcuse/MyStuff  -t  NTFS  -o  umask=0000        but wait!
[05:16] <AZbaer> Again asking nicley..... Can not connect to a shared printer on another linux box
[05:16] <jbzz> jcuse:   Let me see if that is the correct 'type'.    Wait.
[05:16] <jcuse> jbzz: Waiting...
[05:17] <AZbaer> able to connect to folder shares but not printer
[05:17] <jbzz> jcuse:    Looks right.   But there are a few refinements we could add.
[05:18] <jcuse> Jbzz: listening
[05:18] <jbzz> jcuse:   I think in your cas we can just go with what I had typed before ... the mount command
[05:19] <jcuse> so /dev/hdb1   /home/jcuse/OldG  -t  NTFS  -o  umask=000
[05:19] <jbzz> jcuse:   mount   /dev/hdb1   /home/jcuse/MyStuff   -t ntfs  -o  umask=0000
[05:20] <jcuse> do I need to sudo?
[05:20] <jbzz> jcuse:  That means take the device   /dev/hdb1   and 'hhok' it to   /home/jcuse/MyStuff    as an NTFS file system with a umask of 0000
[05:20] <jbzz> jcuse:   I meant  'hook' it
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> nalioth: Curious as to why you use two nicks.
[05:21] <jcuse> yea its there!!!
[05:21] <jbzz> jcuse:   If that command works then you should be able to    cd  /home/jcuse/MyStuff   and then read the second hard drive
[05:22] <jbzz> jcuse:    Bravo.
[05:23] <jcuse> jbzz do you have aim or msn?
[05:23] <jbzz> jcuse:    Now you have an option of copying files to a directory on the Ubuntu partition.
[05:23] <jcuse> or do you like to keep your contacts private
[05:23] <jbzz> jcuse:   Negative.
[05:23] <jcuse> Im already copying them
[05:24] <jcuse> You have gaim?
[05:24] <ejofee> why not simply make patent restrictions legally enforceable *only* for proprietary code? i think this would be a great compromise! i think this is the last thing we should fight for, if everything else fails. do you agree?
[05:24] <Keyseir> I just finished setting up a VM Windows 2000 Pro on breezy. Can anyone tell me how to A.) get it to access the internet (lan connection through a router), and B.) get it to support a resolution that looks bigger then 640 by 480. The guides on the forum don't seem to answer these questions.
[05:25] <jbzz> jcuse:   Well I don't know what I have.  I started with Ubuntu about two weeks ago.  But struggled to do what you have done just now!
[05:25] <jcuse> jbzz lol... thanks
[05:25] <jcuse> ok do this go to applications then internet then gaim
[05:25] <jbzz> jcuse:   Once you have the files moved you could remove the partition on your second hard drive and make a FAT32 partition.  That you can read and write to.
[05:25] <frazmanw> Kernel compiler and gcc seem to be different versions.
[05:25] <frazmanw> Instead, they should be the same. If you have many compilers
[05:25] <frazmanw> installed, you can specify the correct one with command (in bash)
[05:25] <frazmanw>  export CC=kgcc
[05:26] <Keyseir> can anyone help me with my above question regarding VMware?
[05:27] <jbzz> jcuse:   Then you can place your files onto that FAT32 partition.   But if you make it a FAT32 file system then when you mount it you would not use -t ntfs   but instead
[05:27] <frazmanw> how do I handle above issue, trying to compile driver kernel for quickcam express webcam
[05:27] <derekS> anyone here VERY familiar with bittornado?
[05:27] <jbzz> jcuse:  you would use   -t vfat       <== for a FAT32 file system.
[05:27] <charlie5> hi ... gnomebaker appears not to like the names of some files i am trying to backup ... it trys to convert the filenames to the old 8.3 length format, and then fails ... any idea's as to what might be wrong ?
[05:27] <AZbaer> again can not ptrint to printer on another linux box
[05:28] <jcuse> god I need you to get gaim working so you can teach me more stuff.
[05:28] <frazmanw> how do I specify which gcc3.4? when building something?
[05:28] <jbzz> jcuse:   To    UNMOUNT that partition you simply use the command string:     umount /home/jcuse/MyStuff      (note the spelling is      u m o u n t
[05:28] <jcuse> I heard that Im not able to use stuff like mp3 and avi and flash on here, is that true?
[05:29] <charlie5> frazmanw, you might try     CC=/path/gcc3.4 ./configure ...
[05:29] <jbzz> jcuse:   I have no opinion about that.
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> !tell jcuse about restrictedformats
[05:29] <christopher> could someone help me with ndiswrapper? the module loads properly, but wlan0 doesn't seem to exist; this works fine on other distros...
[05:29] <jcuse> hi again tonyyarusso and thanks
[05:29] <Dr_Willis> jcuse,  you can use them.. may be some minor issues here and there however.
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: After reading that you will be able to.  (Listening to mp3s right now.)
[05:30] <dilema> anyone know how in the hell I can "sudo su" if 1. I have NO connection devices(network) and sudo uses gethostbyname
[05:30] <dilema> which fails
[05:30] <jbzz> jcuse:    Gentlemen   jcuse has successfully mounted his NTFS partition.
[05:31] <dilema> and root has no password so I cant get to another tty and login as root
[05:31] <jcuse> :D
[05:31] <jcuse> yea fir ne!
[05:31] <jcuse> for me*!
[05:31] <AZbaer> Way to go jcuse
[05:31] <AZbaer> Noe can I get some jelp on my printer issue
[05:31] <jbzz> jcuse:    Have you finished copying the files from your second hard drive?
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> dilema: sudo -i
[05:32] <dilema> yeah?
[05:32] <setuid> Anyone know how I can get current packages installed into Hoary?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> dilema: That'll get you a root terminal, if you really need it.
[05:33] <setuid> Like libc6 > 2.3.2?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> setuid: As in upgrading to breezy?
[05:33] <setuid> pine requires a current libc6, Hoary still has a pretty old one
[05:33] <jcuse> jbzz my procc is only 566mhz im like 4/5ths done
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> !tell setuid about breezy
[05:33] <jcuse> 1169 files
[05:33] <setuid> tonyyarusso, Is that the newer version?
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> setuid: Yeah.
[05:33] <jcuse> all my mp3's and more importantly my photos of my girlfriend are on there
[05:33] <setuid> arg, after all this customization!!!
[05:33] <AZbaer> noboby must know
[05:33] <jbzz> jcuse:   I have a 400 Mhz processor   ... still ... not bad performance.
[05:34] <AZbaer> how how to access a printer on aniother Linux box
[05:34] <tonyyarusso> setuid: You should be able to keep most of it.
[05:34] <jcuse> How much ram jbzz?
[05:34] <fresh1> i just upgraded from hoary to breezy with mixed results
[05:34] <fresh1> but i guess i am typing this, so more or less it worked :-)
[05:34] <setuid> fresh1, go on
[05:34] <jbzz> jcuse:   Your next decision is what you want to do about the NTFS partition once it is no longer needed.     RAM here is 256 MEG.
[05:34] <AZbaer> can you hear me now?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> fresh1: Always good to start with the basics, eh?
[05:35] <jbzz> jcuse:   Did you want to remove the second hard drive or leav it attached and use it with Ubuntu?
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> AZbaer: Hear, yes, help, no.  Sorry.
[05:35] <fresh1> yeah, i had to mess around with apt-get update dist-upgrade et al
[05:35] <fresh1> it took a few tries
[05:35] <dilema> oik well
[05:35] <dilema> sudo -i does nothing
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> fresh1: What sort of messing around?
[05:35] <AZbaer> Thanks least I iknow I m in line
[05:35] <setuid> fresh1, Ok, I've been running Debian for about 9 years here, Slackware and Ygdrassil before that, so I'm good to go with that.
[05:35] <dilema> it still requires gethostbyname
[05:36] <dilema> this is mornic
[05:36] <fresh1> well some packages didn't update for some reason
[05:36] <fresh1> so i had to check
[05:36] <_jason> dilema: relax, we shall fix.  pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[05:36] <setuid> What the hell is "bicyclerepair"?
[05:36] <setuid> And why is it in ubuntu-desktop's deps?
[05:36] <fresh1> i am a novice, so i just kept at it until it worked
[05:36] <jcuse> jbzz Im going to mkw/e it and use it with ubuntu
[05:36] <fresh1> not sure what i did really, i know that is not much help
[05:36] <timfrost> !info bicyclerepair
[05:36] <dilema> 127.0.0.1 localhost
[05:36] <ubotu> bicyclerepair: (A refactoring tool for python), section devel, is optional. Version: 0.9-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 107 kB, Installed size: 776 kB
[05:36] <AZbaer> again.... can not print to a shared linux printer from Ubuntu 5.10
[05:37] <dilema> tricklap
[05:37] <fresh1> everything works now though, except firefox
[05:37] <dilema> thsi is a freshinstall
[05:37] <AZbaer> Test print is printing but noaction on printer
[05:37] <fresh1> it starts up a tab at the bottom of the screen saying "starting firefox" then nothing
[05:37] <_jason> dilema: did you happen to do an expert install (can you su to root)?
[05:37] <dilema> cant su to root
[05:37] <dilema> did a standard install with no networking
[05:37] <jbzz> jcuse:   So I suggest changing the file system over to something you read and write.
[05:38] <dilema> cause ubuntu didnt see my wirless nic card
[05:38] <dilema> or ethernet controller
[05:38] <timfrost> AZbaer, what is the OS on the PC the printer is attached to?
[05:38] <jughead> how might I get a link to my /home folder on my kicker?
[05:38] <skulltula> why would my system go back to the x login window whenever i press <ctrl><alt><backspace> ?
[05:38] <jbzz> jcuse:  I use FAT32 on my second hard drive.     -t  cfat
[05:38] <AZbaer> CentOS
[05:38] <_jason> dilema: you will have to eitehr a) boot in recovery mode or b) boot with a livecd and change /etc/hosts to "127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost tricklap" (assuming tricklap was in /etc/hostname)
[05:38] <jbzz> jcuse:   oops    -t  vfat
[05:38] <shantanu> whats the command to stop and start my gdm?
[05:38] <MacSlow> trying to do a "apt-file update" the host security.ubuntu.com isn't found for me (here in Germany) the url does resolve though (82.211.81.138)
[05:38] <shantanu> *blush*
[05:38] <timfrost> skulltula, because CTRL-ALT-BS kills the X server
[05:38] <AZbaer> Yes a Red hat clone, avle to nfs folders but not printer
[05:38] <jcuse> jbzz ok after I finish moving the files you can explain to me how to do it
[05:39] <AZbaer> window PC comnects and prints in samba
[05:39] <interfear> Whenever i try to install ubuntu i get a cd-rom read error when its loading the installation files.. its like the 3rd step or something.. i have SATA.. any ideas?
[05:39] <skulltula> timfrost but it doesn't go into a terminal... it just goes back to the x server login.
[05:39] <jbzz> jcuse:   I will try.  I also wrote an extremely small shell script that mounts the second hard drive and another to unmount it.
[05:39] <interfear> ubuntu WILL NOT install on my pc.. and i have no idea why
[05:39] <interfear> it sucks
[05:39] <dilema> this is trash
[05:39] <skulltula> i think i messed up something :\
[05:40] <saotome> sup people
[05:40] <timfrost> AZbaer, does that support ipp, or just BSD printer (515/TCP)?
[05:40] <timfrost> skul
[05:40] <jbzz> jcuse:   That way I do not even enter it into   /etc/fstab    I just mount it when I want to use it.
[05:40] <shantanu> i had the same trouble with Mandriva
[05:40] <_jason> dilema: that shouldn't have happened.  I did an install without networking as well.  I don't know what went wrong, but this will fix it
[05:40] <shantanu> just wouldnt install
[05:40] <AZbaer> Cups is being used so I suppose its ipp
[05:40] <interfear> shantanu: gay..
[05:40] <timfrost> skulltula, yes. gdm restarts the X server when it is killed.
[05:40] <interfear> shantanu: linux just doesnt like this pc
[05:40] <jcuse> well I will constantly use it
[05:40] <jbzz> jcuse:   I share that hard drive partition with a Windows 2000 Pro system.
[05:40] <skulltula> timfrost, so how do i actually exit the x server?
[05:40] <Shadyman> Woo! kernel update!
[05:40] <shantanu> interfear, hehe i doubt it.. Ubuntu should instyall tho.. what is it 64 bit?
[05:40] <fresh1> interfear: where did you get your install cd?
[05:40] <jcuse> I see.
[05:41] <interfear> shantanu: yes
[05:41] <jcuse> I cant get the restricted files thing to work
[05:41] <interfear> shantanu: i even tried 32bit
[05:41] <interfear> shantanu: same crap
[05:41] <jcuse> I did the sudo for the mp3's but it said isnt audio
[05:41] <shantanu> interfear, try the x86_64 install
[05:41] <jcuse> anyways
[05:41] <interfear> shantanu: i tried both
[05:41] <shantanu> interfear, whats the error?
[05:41] <jcuse> jbzz can we continue with the remaking of my drive?
[05:41] <AZbaer> Able to access by IP adress:631 able to test print but not from the desktop
[05:42] <n00b> HELLO HELLO HELLO
[05:42] <jbzz> jcuse:   It will be a little hazy here since I have not used the partitioning software except maybe twice but let's give it a go.
[05:42] <timfrost> skulltula, kill gdm, then do CTRL-ALT-BS to kill the X server.
[05:42] <poimen> http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9923/screenshot21hy.png <-- Gnome
[05:42] <shantanu> timfrost, whats the command to stop gdm again?
[05:42] <interfear> shantanu: says cdrom read error loading like JFS-something.. i even tried doing a server install and it halted on another file.. it always stops same spot.. even Dapper did the same
[05:43] <AZbaer> find Ubuntu is not friendly with other Linux
[05:43] <jbzz> jcuse:   Application  -  System Tools  -  Gparted
[05:43] <jcuse> dont have gparted
[05:43] <jbzz> jcuse:   What do you have?
[05:43] <shantanu> interfear, and you say both the cd's do that?
[05:43] <AZbaer> added my workstation to hosts.allow file
[05:43] <timfrost> shantanu, sudo killall gdm
[05:44] <shantanu> thanx timfrost
[05:44] <shantanu> timfrost,  and to start it back up?
[05:44] <timfrost> Shadowline, sh /etc/iunit.d/gdm start
[05:45] <timfrost> shantanu,  sh /etc/init.d/gdm start
[05:45] <jcuse> applications menu editor, bug report tool, config editor, floppy formater, network tools, new login,  run as different user, system monitor, system log, ubuntu default database.
[05:45] <jcuse> device database*
[05:45] <poimen> lets see screenshoot guys I am curios about how I can Improve my desktop eye-candy :)
[05:45] <shantanu> timfrost, could you give me that WIKI how to link again plz?
[05:46] <poimen> http://img74.imageshack.us/img74/9923/screenshot21hy.png <-- this is my Gnome with gdesklets
[05:46] <timfrost> shantanu, which one?
[05:46] <AZbaer> Timforst can you help? or do I need to get back in line
[05:46] <shantanu> timfrost,  the ATI How To
[05:46] <concept10> poimen, http://img63.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot3qx.png
[05:46] <interfear> im so pissed ubuntu doesnt work
[05:46] <Toma-> poimen, looks nice. tried making the App bar at the top transparent?
[05:46] <timfrost> shantanu,  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[05:46] <jbzz> jcuse:   maybe you can get   'gparted'  and have it install itself.  Use System - Administration - Synaptic
[05:47] <MabusXP> interfear, ubuntu works. What about your particular installation doesn't?
[05:47] <shantanu> ta
[05:47] <poimen> Toma- never I dont kwon how.. lol
[05:47] <AZbaer> intrefear where does it mess up
[05:47] <infested_maggot> i`m trying to install skype via dpkg -i skype.deb and i`ve got an dependecy error regarding libqt3c102-mt. but libqt3-mt it`s allready installed and up-to-date. what`s the problem ?
[05:47] <interfear> MabusXP: During the install it always gives me a cdrom read error at the same point. ive burned other cds and tried other isos.. nothing works
[05:47] <jbzz> jcuse:   Have you installed a 'package' with Ubuntu before?
[05:47] <interfear> I have amd64 and Sata
[05:47] <Laforge> I have a question about 64-bit Ubutntu, do i really benifit by using it over normal ubuntu if i have a AMD-64 bit processor?
[05:48] <jcuse> idk.. i did an update earlir
[05:48] <_jason> interfear: have you tried burning at a slower speed?  have you checked the cd's md5sum?
[05:48] <MabusXP> interfear, make sure when you're burning the cd that you change the burning settings to burn at a really low speed. By default it's going to use the fastest speed which will rarely if ever burn a bootable disc properly.
[05:48] <shantanu> timfrost, the bot gave me 2 links...
[05:48] <shantanu> timfrost, i want the other one too lol
[05:48] <poimen> concept16 : like the up bar with the metters that are network and cpu ones right?
[05:48] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK well go get   'gparted' and that will allow you to handle partitions.
[05:48] <AZbaer> amd 64 not an issue  sata drives I blieve ther is a option when booting"linux"
[05:48] <Toma-> poimen, right click it, Properties > Background > Solid colour (make it white) then slide the Transparent/Opaque slider closer to transparent
[05:48] <MabusXP> Laforge, some say yes. I never used 686 however, to me it wasn't worth the trouble. Is it for you?
[05:48] <timfrost> AZbaer, I have an all-ubuntu LAN.  I switched my print server to ubuntu because I couldn't get ubuntu printing via BSD protocol; so I can't help you
[05:49] <shantanu> ubotu, tell shantanu ATI
[05:49] <timfrost> shantanu,  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:49] <AZbaer> Its a linus lan, so Ubuntu doesnt play with other linuxes?
[05:49] <Laforge> MabusXP well i am not the best with Linux, and i saw that 3rd party program on the forums that installs all this stuff for you, which i want, but it doesn't work for 64-bit
[05:49] <shantanu> hahahah ubotu just told me it wont hehe cos the target was invalid
[05:49] <shantanu> lol
[05:50] <poimen> Toma- lol easy never seen that before lol
[05:50] <slew> hi, whats a good gnome iso burning tool?
[05:50] <jcuse> jbzz installing
[05:50] <jbzz> jcuse:    Also, if you place my nickname on the line you send it will highlight it on my system in RED and will stick out like a soar thimb.
[05:50] <_jason> ubotu: tell shantanu about msg the bot
[05:50] <jbzz> jcuse:   I see that one was in red.  Nice.
[05:50] <thundr> slew, the built-in one works fine for me
[05:50] <AZbaer> interfear: try this linkhttp://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=114059
[05:50] <Laforge> MabusXP so i was thinking of just going to normal ubuntu but i want to know if i am risking anything
[05:51] <jcuse> i have done alot with your nickname in them jbzz
[05:51] <slew> thundr, you mean the one that pops up when you put in a blank cd?
[05:51] <shantanu> kewl thanx jason_
[05:51] <jcuse> im in gparted
[05:51] <Toma-> poimen, its pretty cool, but some of the applets dont support alpha :(
[05:51] <timfrost> AZbaer, I didn't figure how to configure ubuntu to print using BSD protocol on 515/TCP.  There may be an article on the Wiki, but I can't locate it now.
[05:51] <jcuse> im in gparted jbzz
[05:51] <thundr> slew, just right click the .iso and go to burn or something similar.
[05:51] <poimen> nice
[05:51] <jbzz> jcuse:    Yes.  That was helpful.
[05:51] <AZbaer> never mind going back to fedora
[05:51] <poimen> u have a screenie Toma-?
[05:51] <MabusXP> Laforge, I imagine you'll come across more problems with 686, so you might just want to use 386 to save yourself some problems, at the expense of a very small decrease in speed. I could be wrong but if you're rarely ever using much of your processor capability, like myself, then I don't think there is much reason to use 686 anyway.
[05:52] <slew> thundr, i have an option for write to disc, will it burn the iso or just copy the file?
[05:52] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK  ...  on the EXTREME RIGHT side of the screen you will see a box that allows you to change hard drives.
[05:52] <Toma-> poimen, this is a backup PC im on, my good one had its CPU fried this morning :( wont be in action again for a week or 2
[05:52] <thundr> slew, it should burn the iso, IIRC.
[05:52] <jbzz> jcuse:   Upper right.
[05:52] <jcuse> see it jbzz
[05:52] <poimen> :(
[05:52] <guapoo> hola
[05:52] <jbzz> jcuse:   Change to your second hard drive.
[05:53] <slew> thundr, cool here's to hopin! =] 
[05:53] <jcuse> done jbzz
[05:53] <guapoo> hola denuevo
[05:53] <jbzz> jcuse:   It should show the TYPE of file system.
[05:53] <guapoo> hellou
[05:53] <pat3n7> Hey, can someone give me some help, the trash applet kamakazi'ed and I can't get it back
[05:53] <jcuse> ntfs
[05:53] <jbzz> jcuse:    And the amount of space consumed.
[05:53] <Laforge> MabusXP thanks very much
[05:53] <jcuse> 3.5g used
[05:53] <guapoo> help ubuntu
[05:53] <guapoo> help   help
[05:54] <MabusXP> Laforge, no problem. But if you ever feel adventurous, or more confident, maybe you should check out 686. Never did myself, but I imagine it exists for a good reason. :)
[05:54] <thundr> slew, hope it works, if it doesn't, basically most any program will burn isos. I like K3b even though it's for KDE (it still runs fine in gnome as sudo)
[05:54] <poimen> Toma- the problem with translusident background is that the Aplication, Places, window list, System and the notification area they dont support the trasparent background and I get a very little area traslucident :(
[05:54] <jbzz> jcuse:    If you CLICK on that display it will place it 'in focus'
[05:54] <infested_maggot> i`m trying to install skype via dpkg -i skype.deb and i`ve got an dependecy error regarding libqt3c102-mt. but libqt3-mt it`s allready installed and up-to-date. any sugestions on how i cand fix the problem ?
[05:54] <jbzz> jcuse:   And you can make changes to it.
[05:54] <setuid> configure: warning: i can not find select.  you might need to help me
[05:54] <setuid> hrm...
[05:54] <jcuse> jbzz ok hw?
[05:54] <slew> one more thing while im here. im using a celeron, im using linux-686. i have an update ready to install linux-386. do i need to install this? if not, how do i remove it from the updater?
[05:55] <jbzz> jcuse:   Then if you RIGHT CLICK on it you will see the options available.
[05:55] <skulltula> thanks timfrost ... i tried what you said and was whisked away to the terminal. :P
[05:55] <molotov_> I've installed apache2 and I'm looking at apache2.conf. In this file it says that ServerRoot = "etc/apache2" - the description says it's for the server config files. is this also where I'm serving from?
[05:55] <thundr> slew, you've rebooted after installing the kernel?
[05:55] <jcuse> jbzz unmount and information
[05:55] <jbzz> jcuse:   One option is to DELETE the partition.
[05:55] <slew> thundr, yeah
[05:56] <jcuse> jbzz delete is grey
[05:56] <thundr> slew, if you've got 686 and it's running fine, you shouldn't need to have 386 on your system I don't believe.
[05:56] <jbzz> jcuse:   OK  lets UNMOUNT that hard drive.  Exit out of gparted.
[05:56] <thundr> slew, it shouldn't give updates for packages you don't have.
[05:56] <slew> thundr, i agree. the updater is still there telling me i need this. how do i get rid of it?
[05:56] <tonyyarusso> thundr: I kept it as a backup option, since someone told me that was wise.
[05:56] <jcuse> jbzz there is unmount in the gparted option
[05:56] <fresh1> when i try to start firefox from a command line i get:  /usr/local/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 14089 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[05:56] <jbzz> jcuse:    Try it.
[05:57] <jbzz> jcuse:   I never needed to use that!
[05:57] <slew> i wouldnt have a problem installing it but it seems redundant and space consuming to keep it
[05:57] <jcuse> jbzz done, how i can delete.
[05:57] <thundr> tonyyarusso, wouldn't one thing he could do would be to force the version of 386 to the one that he has?  This shouldn't affect 686 in any way, right?
[05:57] <jbzz> jcuse:   Super.  If you are sure that is what you want to do then do it.
[05:57] <fresh1> when i click it in the launcher, it brings up a tab at the bottom of the screen like it is going to start, says Starting Firefox... but nothing happens
[05:57] <oorah05> So group... i'm in the gnome terminal safe mode or something or other because after the last synaptic "kernel upgrade" all the workings of gnome have gone to ****. anyone else know if this is a common issue with a common way to solve it?
[05:57] <jcuse> jbzz i can convert fomr here too
[05:58] <nevyn> hrm
[05:58] <fresh1> i have tried to remove it via synaptic and then install again, but no dice
[05:58] <jbzz> jcuse:   Go ahead and do that.  Choose FAT32.
[05:58] <fresh1> anyone else had this?
[05:58] <slew> fresh1, are you installing the new 1.5?
[05:58] <_jason> fresh1: how would you remove it with synaptic?  isn't that firefox 1.5?
[05:58] <thundr> slew, forcing the version (you can do this in Synaptic) would be what I would try.
[05:59] <jcuse> jbzz done
[05:59] <slew> thundr, ok i'll give it a shot.
[05:59] <fresh1> well i tried 1.5 and it didn't work, so i tried to go back to 1.0.7 i thought maybe Synaptic would fix it?
[05:59] <jbzz> jcuse:    Now is there a button that is like 'COMMIT'  ?
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> thundr: sounds good to me.
[05:59] <_jason> fresh1: did you follow the wiki?
[05:59] <thundr> slew, you know how to do that?
[05:59] <slew> thundr, no, i was about to go look in synaptic to see how
[06:00] <cdubya> !ff
[06:00] <ubotu> cdubya: Are you on ritalin?
[06:00] <dooglus> dapper users: is x.org working at the moment after yesterday's updates?
[06:00] <cdubya> what's the wiki addy for FF 1.5 on Breezy?
[06:00] <thundr> slew, select the package and go to Package>Lock Version.
[06:00] <jbzz> jcuse:    Or   'APPLY'
[06:00] <fresh1> _jason: let me see where i found it
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell cdubya about ff15
[06:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell cdubya about ff1.5
[06:01] <jcuse> im applied it jbzz
[06:01] <jcuse> it wont let me move files back to new drive though, get an error
[06:01] <jbzz> jcuse:   Super.  I think you are finished.
[06:01] <dooglus> cdubya: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:01] <cdubya> kewl, thanks guys
[06:01] <oorah05> So group... i'm in the gnome terminal safe mode or something or other because after the last synaptic "kernel upgrade" all the workings of gnome have gone to ****. anyone else know if this is a common issue with a common way to solve it?
[06:01] <slew> thundr, you mean lock 686, right? btw the 'write to cd' option worked. =] 
[06:02] <jbzz> jcuse:    When you mount that, you are no longer using NTFS so the TYPE part of the mount command will be   -t  vfat
[06:02] <thundr> slew, no - lock 386.  The lock version makes it so you don't get updates for the package.   -- Cool, glad it worked :)
[06:02] <jcuse> jbzz so just use terminal and do that command?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Has anyone used centericq?  (Text-mode IM program)
[06:02] <thundr> slew, the kernel you boot with should still be 686.
[06:03] <cyphase> what do you think about the idea of changing the Save File Dialog to somehow warn people who want to save anywhere except their home folder?
[06:03] <jcuse> jbzz how do i remount it correctly?
[06:03] <jeffisageek> when is firefox going to be updated in ubuntu?
[06:03] <jbzz> jcuse:   So to remount that partition     mount  /dev/hdb1   /home/jcuse/MyStuff    -t   vfat  -o umask=0000
[06:03] <cyphase> in fact, maybe do the same thing with Nautilus
[06:03] <thundr> tonyyarusso, no, but I'm interested to see if there's something like gaim for text-mode.
[06:03] <jcuse> ty
[06:03] <_jason> jeffisageek: probably dapper
[06:03] <cyphase> instead of having..
[06:03] <slew> thundr, hey thanks! i learned something today! and its midnight! so i dont have to learn anything else for 24 hours!!
[06:04] <thundr> slew, glad I could help!  Have fun!
[06:04] <jbzz> jcuse:   And cd to that     cd  /home/jcuse/MyStuff    then   ls      to see what is there
[06:04] <soberon> #ubuntu.es
[06:04] <cyphase> "/     home     Home" using buttons
[06:04] <jeffisageek> _jason, thanks
[06:04] <jbzz> jcuse:   Maybe your files survived the conversion.
[06:04] <Corrupter> i'm having a bit of a problem on another one of my computers running 5.10, when i boot up it says error starting device thermal and fan and hangs for a while, does anyone know how to fix this?
[06:04] <cyphase> have Home be the root directory
[06:04] <jcuse> jbzz nah, its working now
[06:04] <cyphase> not of the filesystem, of nautilus
[06:05] <_jason> jeffisageek: you can install firefox1.5 (there are instructions), but if firefox1.07 isn't giving you problems, I would stick with it
[06:05] <cyphase> and of course, still allow people to browse to the file system with the button in the toolbar or by using a string path
[06:05] <jbzz> jcuse:   You state it  =>  IS  <= working now?
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> thundr: It works, for sure.  I'm wondering if I can do things like aliases, and reading away messages.
[06:05] <jeffisageek> _jason, no problems here...so yeah i will stick with it
[06:05] <jeffisageek> _jason, just curious
[06:05] <frazmanw> I want to install cube. should I get the src.zip file ot the unix.tar.gz file. also if anyone knows how do I install
[06:05] <thundr> cyphase, make it as an option, but I think it would be handy for new users, if it was clear and simple enough.  You could have it so it's like windows - Desktop/Home/stuff.txt (again as an option)
[06:05] <soberon> excuse me... how I joint ubuntu channel for spanish lang?
[06:05] <_jason> !es
[06:05] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[06:05] <sethk> frazmanw, there isn't a package?
[06:06] <jeffisageek> anyone know of any podcasts dealing with ubuntu out there?
[06:06] <_jason> soberon: type: /join #ubuntu-es
[06:06] <frazmanw> sethk, suppriosingly i can not find one.
[06:06] <soberon> thanks a lot
[06:06] <Corrupter> can i VNC to a computer thats only running a CLI?
[06:06] <cyphase> thundr, ther'e sno ned fo an option
[06:06] <cyphase> i mean..
[06:06] <cyphase> there's no*
[06:06] <sethk> frazmanw, then you want the tar.gz file
[06:06] <jcuse> jbzz yes, I am transfering files bakc now
[06:06] <Dr_Willis> Corrupter,  yes
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> Corrupter: I haven't tried it, but someone told me it's something with 'screen'...
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> Corrupter,  i do it all the time
[06:07] <sethk> frazmanw, or tar.bz2, or whatever.  usually if there is both a zip and a tar.X, the tar.X is better for linux
[06:07] <cyphase> when they go to anywhere in their home folder, and they have buttons enabled instead of the text field
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis: Do tell.
[06:07] <jcuse> jbzz the only thing you left out is its sudo mount bla bla bla, not just mount bla bla bla
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> screen is for the shell. :P
[06:07] <jbzz> jcuse:   Fantastic.   Now you have to decide how you want to mount and umount it on a daily basis.
[06:07] <cyphase> make the highest level button their home directory
[06:07] <sethk> Corrupter, you can, but why in the world would you want to?
[06:07] <thundr> cyphase, make it as an option - maybe not direct, but something that's able to be disabled for those who didn't like it (In System>Preferences or something like that)
[06:07] <jcuse> jbzz it permantly mounted?
[06:07] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  :P ssh in, run vncserver, vnc in...
[06:07] <cyphase> but have the "Filesystem" button in the toolbar like it is now
[06:07] <frazmanw> sethk, how do I install it. I would think ./configure (but there is no configure) then I tried make && make config but says there is no makefile???
[06:07] <jcuse> jbzz isnt it*
[06:07] <cyphase> thundr, yea i suppose that's best
[06:07] <jbzz> jcuse:   If you place a well written line in   /etc/fstab then it will automatically mount when you boot.
[06:08] <jcuse> jbzz whats the line?
[06:08] <sethk> frazmanw, give me the url for the file, I'll take a look at it.
[06:08] <Corrupter> Dr_Willis: well, i have a 50 foot cord connected to a router thats connected to 25 foot cord to the modem, so i'd rather not have to walk back and forth to the PC thats my server, so i'd rather just plug it into my router, is there any special way to do it, or any particular VNC program you suggest?
[06:08] <jbzz> jcuse:   rRIght now you have 'session' mounted it.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis: VNC in from outside of the ssh session, presumably?
[06:08] <frazmanw> sethk, http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=91993
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  either way :P
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> you can ssh tunnle vnc.. or  not.
[06:08] <borazon> Is there a firefox 1.5 package yet?
[06:08] <cyphase> but it would be useful for new users that might get scared by /etc, /dev, /mnt
[06:08] <sethk> frazmanw, ok, give me a moment.
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis: Really?  Huh.
[06:08] <jcuse> jbzz whats the command to permamount it?
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> borazon: No.
[06:09] <frazmanw> sethk, tks
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> I got my file server set where i just vnc to port 5910 and it starts up vncserver and gives me a gdm screen also.
[06:09] <n00b> HOW BIG IS CEDEGA
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  or i could ssh in and start one myself.
[06:09] <jbzz> jcuse:   You have to place a line in /etc/fstab that is proper.
[06:09] <thundr> cyphase, I always like choice and advanced modes, I don't like it when programs lose functionality when they're made for new users.  If your idea is implimented correctly, I like it, I just probably wouldn't want it for myself.
[06:09] <agent_bob> i'm not sure what broken here, i do 'modprobe psmouse' and it returns without error; but a 'od /dev/psaux' returns ;no such device.   anybody got a clue ?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  not very big. :P
[06:09] <cyphase> thundr, i don't want it for me either :)
[06:09] <jcuse> jbzz what would it look like?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  compared to the size of the games.
[06:09] <sethk> frazmanw, it's a big file, it will take a while to download
[06:10] <Corrupter> Dr_Willis: i am quite a geek, but i must admit i've never touched VNC in my life, can you explain how to do this, or point me to a site with instructions?
[06:10] <jbzz> jcuse:   Let me adjust my display.  Wait one.
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis: Shall have to try all of this one of these days.  (Now that I *think* I have port forwarding set up right...)
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Corrupter,  vnc forum/wiki pages  on the ubuntu web site
[06:10] <frazmanw> seth hmmm 30M not too bad
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> Corrupter,  or dozens of other web sites out.
[06:10] <cyphase> i suppose it could just be a check mark. "Show Home Folder as root", and make it default
[06:11] <n00b> Dr_Willis: Like around 600MB, or would it be around 20MB?
[06:11] <agent_bob> anybody using a plain old 2 button ps2 mouse care to 'ls -l /dev/psaux' for me ?
[06:11] <n00b> Dr_Willis: I'm trying to download it thats why...
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  id guss about 60 mb. perhaps. tops
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  then theres some extras ya will install to go with it.
[06:11] <n00b> Dr_Willis: really....
[06:11] <jbzz> jcuse:   Are you ready to make an entry into  /etc/fstab?
[06:12] <agent_bob> Dr_Willis is your mouse ps2 two button ?
[06:12] <jcuse> jbzz yessir, got my popcorn and everything
[06:13] <cyphase> I'm writing a paper of sorts about
[06:13] <cyphase> oops
[06:13] <sethk> frazmanw, not that bad, I just meant that it will take a few minutes to download and extract
[06:13] <frazmanw> sethk, by the way the cube-unix.sh works kinda if you type sh cube-unix.sh   however it is not right because servers etc do not work
[06:13] <jbzz> jcuse:    I believe you must use TAB between the entries in this file.
[06:13] <frazmanw> sethk, tks appreciate your time
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> agent_bob,  I dont even have a ps2 mouse anyu more :P lol
[06:14] <jbzz> The first entry would be the actual device      /dev/hdb1
[06:14] <sethk> frazmanw, I can't really say anything intelligent about the .sh until I can see it.  :)
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> n00b,   7500122 2005-03-02 12:00 cedega_4.2.1-1_i386.deb
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  is the size of the file for the older version . 5.0 is a little bigger i think
[06:14] <cyphase> I'm writing a paper of sorts about ideas people have for Gnome 3 and way's they can be put together. If anyone has anything they want me to include, please contact me. PM is preferable so I'll be sure to see it.
[06:14] <jbzz> jcuse:    The second entry would be the mount point    /home/jcuse/MyStuff
[06:14] <cyphase> ways*
[06:14] <frazmanw> sethk, just trying to let you know what i tried
[06:14] <sethk> frazmanw, k
[06:14] <jbzz> The third entry would be the filesystem type     vfat
[06:15] <stevenj> My usb mouse (of all things) is the only thing that keeps dapper from booting.  Then I connect the mouse at GDM and it works....any ideas??
[06:15] <jbzz> jcuse:  The third entry would be the filesystem type    vfat
[06:15] <mustard5> stevenj, what part of the startup fails when the mouse is plugged in?
[06:15] <stevenj> but the mouse is causing xserver to fail
[06:16] <rebort> stevenj: how does it keep you from booting nvm ok
[06:16] <stevenj> mustard5, xserver fails with mouse usb mouse connected
[06:16] <rebort> stevenj: whats the error you get in /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[06:16] <mustard5> stevenj, have you tried reconfiguring xorg.conf?
[06:16] <mustard5> rebort, yeah..good idea :)
[06:16] <jbzz> jcuse:    The fourth entry sould be any options.  Probably use           defaults
[06:16] <stevenj> mustard5, let me check the log
[06:16] <jbzz> jcuse:    The fifth entry would be zero       0
[06:17] <jbzz> jcuse:    The sixth antry  would be another zero    0
[06:17] <jbzz> jcuse:    Then save the file and exit your editor.
[06:17] <mustard5> jbzz, you might need a iocharset=utf8,umask=000 in there too ;)
[06:17] <jcuse> so go to terminal and type in /dev/hdb1	/home/jcuse/OldG	 vfat	defaults	0	0
[06:18] <jcuse> or sudo gedit the file?
[06:18] <jbzz> jcuse:    See that comment by mustard5    ?   He might be correct.
[06:18] <jbzz> mustard5:  Tahanks for the comment.
[06:18] <mustard5> jbzz, just substitute what I have for the part where you have default
[06:18] <jcuse> mustard5 how would it look?
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Any logs I can look at to try to diagnose why suspend/hibernate don't work?
[06:19] <jbzz> jcuse:  Mustard5 suggests removing the word 'default' and placing into that spot ...
[06:19] <sethk> frazmanw, did you try the linux_server in the bin_unit directory?
[06:19] <mustard5> jcuse, /dev/hdb1  /home/jcuse/OldG vfat iocharset=utf8,umask=000 0 0
[06:19] <frazmanw> yup, i think i need to chmod +x them though?
[06:19] <jbzz> jcuse:    iocharset=utf8, umask=000
[06:20] <jcuse> thanks
[06:20] <jcuse> thanks mustard5 and jbzz
[06:20] <stevenj> mustard5, when mouse is connected xserver fails and gives mouse errors..when unconnected log show mouse loaded. I plug in mouse and it works until I reboot with mouse
[06:20] <thundr> tonyyarusso, having the same problem
[06:20] <mustard5> jcuse, np...jbzz is doing fabulously I just thought i would get that in early ;)
[06:20] <jbzz> jcuse:    maybe there should be NO SPACE between these since they are arguments.
[06:20] <GeorgeAScott> hey al
[06:21] <stevenj> mustard5, how do I reconfigure xserver?
[06:21] <jeffisageek> does anyone know where I can find gimpshop to install on ubuntu?
[06:21] <jbzz> mustard5:  You get a prize.
[06:21] <jcuse> jbzz = uber cool for helping me
[06:21] <mustard5> stevenj, you can do this in terminal...  sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg    and choose the default answers for things you don't know the answers for
[06:21] <thundr> tonyyarusso, Try this, I don't know if it works, or if you've tried it already.  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NvidiaLaptopBinaryDriverSuspend
[06:22] <jbzz> jcuse:    Have you mad ethe changes yet jcuse?
[06:22] <mustard5> stevenj, it will create a backup of your old xorg.conf when it writes a new one
[06:22] <jcuse> yea thats all good and done
[06:22] <tonyyarusso> thundr: Urm, ATI here, so I'm guessing that doesn't apply?
[06:22] <stevenj> mustard5, hmm ok..I remember doing just that..yesterday before I figured out it was the mouse crap'n everything out...I"ll try again
[06:22] <jcuse> jbzz yea thats all good and done.  I need help with one more thing though before I can go to sleep happy
[06:22] <thundr> tonyyarusso, yeah, probably not. :)
[06:22] <jcuse> jbzz I needs my music, can anyone help me get my musics?
[06:23] <frazmanw> sethk, nope tried chmod +x no luck, still no servers in multiplayer. even if running sh.
[06:23] <mustard5> stevenj, in your xorg.conf there is another command in the comments up top of the file...you could try that one too
[06:23] <jbzz> jcuse:    OK.  Now I think you should   UNMOUNT  the seconds hard drive.    use:    umount  /home/jcuse/MyStuff
[06:23] <tonyyarusso> thundr: The frustrating part is I had them working on this machine in Hoary, and I think an earlier Breezy installation, but I broke some other things and had to do it over, and now it's a no go.
[06:23] <thundr> tonyyarusso, oh, that's no good.
[06:23] <mustard5> stevenj, I don't know what the difference between them is....but that one shown in the comments section of the xorg.conf file has some options associated with the command that might help
[06:24] <jcuse> jbzz why unmount?
[06:24] <mustard5> jcuse, so you can mount it via fstab again
[06:25] <jbzz> jcuse:    Then you can boot and make sure that the second hard drive mounts properly.
[06:25] <n00b> DOES ANYONE KNOW ANY FTP SITE WHERE I CAN DOWNLOAD THE FULL VERSION OF CEDEGA
[06:25] <jcuse> jbzz i thought we just did that, alright unmounting
[06:25] <n00b> sorr for caps
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> n00b,  that would not be 'legal'
[06:25] <jcuse> jbzz and it is OldG not MyStuff
[06:25] <IcemanV9> n00b: you'll have to purchase it
[06:25] <mustard5> n00b, Cedega has a 14 trial version of the full version :)
[06:25] <sethk> frazmanw, it's a binary package, which explains why configure and make aren't there.
[06:26] <KeithWeisshar> why does the ubuntu 5.10 dvd boot as live dvd as default
[06:26] <sethk> frazmanw, when I run the server I get an error.  what happens when you run it?
[06:26] <jbzz> jcuse:    OK.  Well, you should reboot and see if the seconds hard drive mounts automatically.
[06:26] <KeithWeisshar> why does it boot as live unless i type install at the boot prompt
[06:26] <thundr> n00b, you could try compiling it from source :)
[06:26] <jcuse> I gotta sudo agian
[06:26] <jbzz> jcuse:    If so, you should be able to 'cd' to it and read it after the reboot.
[06:26] <mustard5> jbzz, I think you can umount it then do a mount -a to test it
[06:26] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, because thats what it does...
[06:27] <KeithWeisshar> are there any dvds that run in install unless i use live at the boot prompt
[06:27] <frazmanw> sethk, hmmm, everything always worked in gentoo I just did an emerge in that and all was working. seth maybe I need to build from the src.zip file to get multiplayer servers? if so how would I do that?
[06:27] <jbzz> jcuse:    Yes, I believe you can also do a    mount -a     right now and save some time.   That will 'mount all'
[06:27] <Shadyman> Oh wow, that was weird. Update-notifier was taking 20% CPU load, according to System Monitor, and my CPU load was at 100%. My laptop fan was going. as soon as i stopped update-notifier, the fan turned off.
[06:27] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, not in ubuntu
[06:27] <Dr_Willis> KeithWeisshar,  ya cant type 'install' ?
[06:27] <mustard5> KeithWeisshar, so you want install?
[06:28] <jbzz> jcuse:    Then see if you can read files and write files to the seconds hard drive.
[06:28] <stevenj> mustard5, reconfigure did not change anything; however, nvidia driver works good :)
[06:28] <mustard5> stevenj, hehe well thats a bonus :)
[06:28] <mustard5> stevenj, did you check out the comments section at the top of your xorg.conf file?
[06:29] <mustard5> stevenj, there is another command there..with other options in it
[06:29] <jbzz> jcuse:    If so, then 'Bob's your uncle' as they say down under.  You will be 'good to go'
[06:29] <jcuse> jbzz rebooting
[06:29] <sethk> frazmanw, hopefully there are unix makefile's in the src.
[06:29] <frazmanw> sethk, how are you running it? in the game?
[06:29] <KeithWeisshar> i saw a demo on google video and it showed a message to to install, press enter, to boot as live, type live and press enter
[06:29] <varsendagger> hello can you see me?
[06:29] <sethk> frazmanw, no, I just tried starting the server from the command line
[06:29] <mustard5> stevenj, other than that I am not sure what to do
[06:29] <bobby> we say 'good to go'? don't you mean "she'll be right"?
[06:29] <frazmanw> sethk, I did not see any makefiles in src....
[06:29] <sethk> frazmanw, scripts?
[06:30] <jbzz> mustard5:  I figured if he rebooted then he will have definitely UNMOUNTED  !!!
[06:30] <KeithWeisshar> do all breezy dvd's run as live by default
[06:30] <mustard5> jbzz, for sure :)
[06:30] <frazmanw> sethk, what are you typing to run sh?
[06:30] <KeithWeisshar> did any previous version of ubuntu run as install by default
[06:30] <thundr> this is the first version that's on DVD, IIRC.
[06:30] <sethk> frazmanw, I didn't use sh, the server is a binary
[06:31] <nicholaspaul> If I updated Dapper since Sunday, do I now have flight 3??
[06:31] <sethk> let me look at the zip file
[06:31] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, the dvd's do. if you want install by deafult, get the CD version
[06:31] <KeithWeisshar> the dvd iso's are large, why don't the compress it in zip or gzip
[06:31] <KeithWeisshar> why don't they compress the iso as zip or gzip
[06:31] <frazmanw> sethk, I get command not found?
[06:32] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, a 2-3gb tar.gz file would take a long time to uncompress
[06:32] <sethk> frazmanw, I didn't even have to chmod +x, it untar'd as executable.  I just did a cd to bin_unix, and then ./linux-server
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> thundr: I figured out how to set an alias in centericq, btw.  Still not viewing AIM away messages.
[06:32] <jcuse> jbzz Good to go like taco bell
[06:32] <stevenj> mustard5, ok looking through xorg and comparing it with my breezy xorg-I see that the mouse protocol is ImPS/2 in breezy and ExplorerPS/2 in this config hmmm
[06:32] <KeithWeisshar> what about 7-zip
[06:32] <Toma-> in some cases, about aslong as it takes to d/l on a fast connection
[06:32] <sethk> frazmanw, the zip file is configured to build with visual c++.  won't do you much good.
[06:32] <KeithWeisshar> does it take a long time to uncompress a zipped iso
[06:32] <frazmanw> sethk, servererror: could not create server info socket
[06:33] <jbzz> jcuse:    Well then I am going to punch out.  Take care.
[06:33] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, yes
[06:33] <mustard5> stevenj, thats a good clue then perhaps :)
[06:33] <sethk> frazmanw, you could just copy the entire source directory from gentoo if you still have it.
[06:33] <thundr> tonyyarusso, does it support AIM away messages?
[06:33] <n00b> mustard5: where would i be able to get this trial version?
[06:33] <mustard5> stevenj, its worth a try
[06:33] <sethk> frazmanw, that's odd, I don't see that.
[06:33] <jcuse> jbzz thanks for all your help.  When you configure gaim let me know :)
[06:33] <sethk> frazmanw, actually, wait a minute, I ran it on fedora ... :)
[06:33] <frazmanw> sethk, not sure if it is meant to be run that way
[06:33] <jbzz> jcuse:    Understood.  Out.
[06:33] <frazmanw> sethk, lmao!
[06:33] <mustard5> n00b, on the www.transgaming.com site  at the bottom of a page somewhere if I recall
[06:33] <sethk> frazmanw, possibly not, but it should still start
[06:33] <mustard5> n00b, its not obvious I remember that
[06:33] <sethk> frazmanw, and I don't see that error,
[06:33] <mustard5> n00b, you have to scroll all the way down the page to find it
[06:34] <stevenj> mustard5, I know I choose ImPS/2 in reconfigure-guess it did'n "take". thanks
[06:34] <KeithWeisshar> is frozentech the cheapest place to buy ubuntu dvd's
[06:34] <jcuse> mustard5, can you help me be able to play my mp3's?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> thundr: No idea.  It didn't say.
[06:34] <mustard5> jcuse, sure
[06:34] <mustard5> jcuse, I can give you a link to some instructions
[06:34] <Shadyman> KeithWeisshar: Nope, it's cheaper to download and burn your own.
[06:34] <Toma-> KeithWeisshar, you can get them sent to you for free
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> thundr: So far it's up in the air whether it doesn't support them of I haven't figured them out yet.
[06:34] <thundr> tonyyarusso, try man centericq in the console.
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> thundr: Did that, not a very complete man.
[06:35] <jcuse> tonyyarusso gave me a link but it didnt help
[06:35] <KeithWeisshar> frozentech sell's dvd's for $1.99 plus $0.49 postage
[06:35] <mustard5> jcuse, try this guide http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: Remind me what link that was again?
[06:35] <mustard5> jcuse, go through all the setup procedures and it should set up movies and music for you
[06:35] <sethk> frazmanw, I get the same result in ubuntu.  It prints out an HTML page.  So, obviously it isn't meant to be run this way, but I think your real problem is that it won't start up in your environment
[06:35] <jcuse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:35] <mortal5> hey guys, has anyone ever had ubuntu turn their computer *ON*?
[06:35] <stevenj> mustard5, also the ZaxisMapping is missing in this xorg...wonder what that is and if it matters
[06:35] <sethk> frazmanw, I ran it on 32 bit 386.  Is that what you are running?
[06:35] <KeithWeisshar> i had trouble installing ubuntu from dvd
[06:35] <n00b> mustard5: thank you
[06:36] <frazmanw> sethk, 32bit 686 smp
[06:36] <mustard5> stevenj, I have no idea :)
[06:36] <mustard5> n00b, np
[06:36] <sethk> frazmanw, then it should certainly start.  what was that error again?
[06:36] <KeithWeisshar> i sometimes get random errors while copying the dvd packages
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> mortal5: I don't think that's possible locally, etherboot is though.
[06:36] <frazmanw> sethk, servererror: could not create server info socket
[06:36] <mortal5> I was sleeping last night, and my computer comes on at 1:30, and I have all wakeup events disabled
[06:36] <stevenj> mustard5, sounds cool...maybe I'll use ;)
[06:36] <KeithWeisshar> i get a red message that the installation of packages failed
[06:36] <thundr> looking on the site now, tonyyarusso
[06:36] <mortal5> I mean everything
[06:36] <sethk> frazmanw, that's odd.  I would strace it, see if you can spot the reason for the error.
[06:37] <mustard5> n00b, check PM
[06:37] <sethk> frazmanw, I wasn't expecting to see differennt behavior on my box vs. yours'
[06:37] <frazmanw> sethk, bind(3, {sa_family=AF_INET, sin_port=htons(28766), sin_addr=inet_addr("0.0.0.0")}, 16) = -1 EADDRINUSE (Address already in use)
[06:37] <sethk> frazmanw, hm.  is it correct?  do netstat -na | grep 28766
[06:38] <thundr> tonyyarusso, on the site it says it does for ICQ, at least.  Try this if you haven't: http://centericq.de/docs/readme.php
[06:38] <frazmanw> sethk, udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:28766           0.0.0.0:*
[06:38] <sethk> frazmanw, ok, now do netstat -nap | grep 28766.  That will show which process has it open
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> All right, now here's a question:  Can I copy text from irssi on tty2 and paste it to firefox on tty7 (display :0)?
[06:39] <frazmanw> sethk, udp        0      0 0.0.0.0:28766           0.0.0.0:*                          9686/linux_server
[06:40] <frazmanw> sethk, ok killed it
[06:40] <frazmanw> sethk, restarted got same as you now
[06:40] <_smd_> Does firefox constantly crash for anyone else,  no matter that page you're on?
[06:40] <Shadyman> _smd_: No :)
[06:40] <_smd_> :(
[06:40] <sethk> frazmanw, ok.  I was hoping this would be simple, but it isn't going to be.
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> jcuse: And what were you trying to do?
[06:40] <thundr> tonyyarusso, I think you can, but I don't know how.  Anyone?
[06:40] <cemmel> how do i install adobe reader?
[06:41] <_smd_> Epiphany does the same thing too, crashing no matter what I go to.
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> cemmel: sudo apt-get install acroread
[06:42] <_smd_> Is there another browser that I can try so crashing may not happen as much or heh at all?
[06:42] <mustard5> _smd_, thats unusual
[06:42] <_jason> _smd_: that sounds like a plugin problem
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> cemmel: There are extra packages for things like a mozilla plugin.
[06:42] <thundr> _smd_, you can use opera
[06:42] <cemmel> tony, when i do sudo apt-get install acroread, i get this: "Package acroread is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> thundr: I was able to get to the page by remembering the URL, but it's still something I'd like to know.
[06:42] <_jason> _smd_: try creating a new firefox profile or running it with -safe-mode to see if the problem persists
[06:43] <thundr> cemmel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser for installation instructions
[06:43] <_smd_> Why thank you  thundr i will try that and see what happens.
[06:43] <mustard5> _smd_, on firefox you could try creating a new profile, as your old profile sounds like its not working to well
[06:43] <_smd_> _jason: tried no difference
[06:43] <mustard5> _smd_, k
[06:43] <mustard5> _smd_, its sounds like something a bit out of the ordinary
[06:44] <drcode> hi all
[06:44] <mustard5> greetings drcode
[06:44] <drcode> any good console mail client?
[06:44] <drcode> in linux?
[06:44] <cemmel> thundr, this is for opera, no?
[06:44] <mustard5> drcode, mutt or pine?
[06:44] <_smd_> It has been for awhile.  I well not me my friend re-installed everything after I was having problems with the update in Oct and now I am having problems again
[06:44] <n00b> mustard5: check your pm
[06:44] <drcode> mutt
[06:44] <drcode> thanx
[06:45] <thundr> cemmel, yes, the link I gave you was for Opera.
[06:45] <mustard5> n00b, I think we can't PM each other as your not registered in IRC
[06:45] <mustard5> n00b, cause you can't see mine and I can't see yours :)
[06:45] <n00b> mustard5: i can see your PM though
[06:45] <n00b> mustard5: How do i register?
[06:45] <Keyseir> Anyone here know about VMware?
[06:46] <mustard5> !register
[06:46] <ubotu> I heard register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[06:46] <frazmanw> sethk, before you said I could copy from gentoo? I am emerging in gentoo now (other computer) what would I copy over?
[06:46] <glyph> I'm using screen on dapper, and since /var/run is mounted on a tempfs, no users on the system can use screen until I've manually changed the mode of /var/run/screen as root
[06:46] <sethk> frazmanw, I'd copy the entire source directory, do make clean, then do make all install
[06:47] <sethk> frazmanw, but I'm not a gentoo user and I have no idea where gentoo hides the source
[06:47] <drcode> how can I connect to my smtp and mapi server in mutt?
[06:47] <B1zz> dapers already out?
[06:47] <frazmanw> sethk, that was my next question
[06:47] <varsendagger> mustard5, arem you talking about a trangaming demo?
[06:47] <varsendagger> transgaming
[06:47] <khermans> ANyone recommend some audio editing software?
[06:47] <sethk> frazmanw, hopefully find will help you
[06:47] <glyph> B1zz: no, and if you use it it's very likely that ninjas will be dispatched to kill you in your sleep
[06:47] <mustard5> varsendagger, yeah
[06:47] <frazmanw> sethk, I downloaded the src.zip and there is a makefile in src directory.
[06:47] <B1zz> lol
[06:47] <varsendagger> transgaming
[06:47] <B1zz> i like ninjas :-p
[06:47] <glyph> B1zz: nevertheless, I have decided to use it after careful evaluation of ninja-defense systems.
[06:47] <sethk> frazmanw, let me look at it.
[06:48] <varsendagger> can you pm me a link ( i am registered)
[06:48] <frazmanw> sethk, this one is a tiny download
[06:48] <nicholaspaul> if i'm trying to install bcm43xx do i still need firmware for apple airport extreme  ? I'm using Dapper on PPC
[06:48] <mustard5> varsendagger, k one sec
[06:48] <sethk> frazmanw, that's definitely a unix makefile.  give it a try.
[06:49] <sethk> frazmanw, do:  make standalone server client
[06:49] <B1zz> can anyone recommed a webpage builder for linux?
[06:49] <khermans> B1zz, NVU
[06:49] <sethk> frazmanw, better, just do "make all"
[06:49] <HermanDE> B1zz: vi
[06:49] <sethk> frazmanw, the all target builds enet, client, and server
[06:49] <glyph> B1zz: What is your level of expertise?
[06:49] <B1zz> n00b
[06:49] <glyph> B1zz: NVU, then.
[06:49] <n00b> Blzz: yes?
[06:49] <B1zz> :) ty
[06:49] <khermans> B1zz, sudo aptitude install nvu
[06:49] <B1zz> opps
[06:50] <frazmanw> sethk, tons of errors
[06:50] <frazmanw> clear
[06:50] <glyph> So, anybody have a clue on the screen suid issue?  screen is kind of a big deal on this system...
[06:50] <B1zz> someone asked me what lvl of expertice i said noob :)
[06:50] <mr_clark> Hi there. whats the correct way to install kde on ubuntu? I've tried the instructions from the madpenguin site but it doesn't install KDE when I do the dist-upgrade.
[06:50] <HermanDE> glyph: What sort of suid issues?
[06:50] <sethk> frazmanw, I did one, clearly this has never been built with the version of the compiler that ubuntu currently uses
[06:50] <khermans> mr_clark, aptitude install kubuntu-desktop
[06:50] <sethk> frazmanw, notice, however, that it says to try   -fpermissive
[06:51] <sethk> frazmanw, so try that
[06:51] <glyph> HermanDE: /var/run is on a tempfs, since that is apparently the default in dapper.
[06:51] <thundr> mr_clark, or  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop    both should work
[06:51] <glyph> HermanDE: I don't want to turn that off, because I like to leave things as close to the stock config as possible :)
[06:51] <mortal5> does anyone have a good idea of how ubuntu works at a low hardware level?
[06:51] <glyph> HermanDE: however, I need multiuser support for screen.
[06:51] <sethk> frazmanw, with -fpermissive, it is building for me, albeit with a ton of warnings
[06:51] <mr_clark> thundr, tried both and I get a bunch of unresolved dependencies.
[06:51] <HermanDE> glyph: Hmm...  That's kind of strange....
[06:51] <glyph> HermanDE: that means suid root
[06:51] <sethk> frazmanw, but then it barfs
[06:51] <HermanDE> glyph: I wonder why they would do that....
[06:51] <glyph> HermanDE: and suid root screen requires that /var/run/screen be mode 755.
[06:51] <sethk> frazmanw, missing enet library.
[06:51] <mr_clark> Do I still need to have the http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 in my sources.list?
[06:51] <thundr> mr_clark, can you try it in synaptic?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> mortal5: With or without X?
[06:52] <_jason> mr_clark: do you have multiverse/universe enabled?
[06:52] <mortal5> heh, tony, I'm still on my mysterious boot question
[06:52] <sethk> frazmanw, ah, I found it
[06:52] <glyph> HermanDE: I'm not really sure.  To make matters worse, there is no tempfs entry in /etc/fstab, so I don't even know where I would unmount it.
[06:52] <thundr> _jason, kubuntu shouldn't depend on multiverse, should it?
[06:52] <sethk> frazmanw, from src,  do  cd ../enet
[06:52] <nicholaspaul> if i'm trying to install bcm43xx do i still need firmware for apple airport extreme  ? I'm using Dapper on PPC
[06:52] <mr_clark> My line in sources.list is "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main"
[06:52] <sethk> frazmanw, then, in enet, do the ./configure, make, make install sequence
[06:52] <_jason> thundr: I think it's only universe, but I threw in multiverse since I wasn't sure
[06:53] <HermanDE> glyph: tempfs is usually in ram....
[06:53] <glyph> HermanDE: yes, that's the problem :0
[06:53] <n00b> How do i install the cedega trial version?
[06:53] <_jason> mr_clark: that's your whole sources.list?
[06:53] <michael> two questions, how can i configure my clipboard(things stay on it after exiting an applications) and what is a good way to remote desktop to my home laptop from a school (windows) computer
[06:53] <mr_clark> No it has all the defaults that were installed with it.
[06:53] <frazmanw> sethk, permission denied? hmm
[06:53] <mustard5> n00b, I don't have much idea about that..it has a .bin file
[06:53] <_jason> mr_clark: pastebin the whole thing please
[06:53] <mustard5> n00b, I use the full cedega
[06:53] <HermanDE> glyph: All I can say is eeewwwwww...  Time for a bit of sym linkage?
[06:53] <sethk> frazmanw, have to do chmod +x configure
[06:53] <n00b> mustard5: where did you get the full version? which site is it?
[06:54] <mr_clark> _jason, sorry pastebin?
[06:54] <mustard5> n00b, you registered yet?
[06:54] <thundr> mr_clark, do you have ubuntu installed?
[06:54] <_jason> !pastebin
[06:54] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:54] <sethk> frazmanw, then it works
[06:54] <mr_clark> Yes. I'm on it right now.
[06:54] <ilba7r> any one know of a ubuntu repos for  ibm-acpi
[06:54] <mustard5> n00b, I subscribed to cedega through the www.transgaming.com website
[06:54] <mustard5> n00b, that gives you access to the download for the full version
[06:54] <n00b> mustard5: no i can't coz i dont have a credit card
[06:54] <mustard5> n00b, did you register in IRC?
[06:54] <thundr> mr_clark, Then you shouldn't need that line.  Standard ubuntu repos should work fine.  Just enable universe and install the package in synaptic or whatever you prefer.
[06:54] <frazmanw> sethk, ok ./configure worked then what?
[06:55] <michael> n00b, Cedega CVS seems to work better for me - plus I'm a tightwad
[06:55] <HermanDE> glyph: I would think that tempfs is mounted during the init...  Configs should be located there....
[06:55] <excelblue> how long does it usually take for those ubuntu shipit discs to ship to the west coast of the US?
[06:55] <glyph> HermanDE: Ah, I got it.  This is just a bug in the screen-cleanup script.
[06:55] <pico2> hi. im trying to get iptables to load automatically. i've found an initscript, and got it to load on boot. however it does not work when i'm powering down or rebooting. can anyone suggest and alternative to what i'm using? (update-rc.d iptables start 37 S . stop 37 0 .)
[06:55] <sethk> frazmanw, make, then as root,  make install
[06:56] <mr_clark> thundr, do I need multiverse also?
[06:56] <glyph> Damnit now I have to report a bug.  Somebody needs to freaking fix bugzilla.
[06:56] <n00b> mustard5: no i haven't because i don't know how
[06:56] <HermanDE> pico2: It is called SHOREWALL....
[06:56] <frazmanw> sethk, tried make errors
[06:56] <HermanDE> pico2: apt-get install shorwall
[06:56] <n00b> michael: Do you know where i can find instructions for installing it
[06:56] <sethk> frazmanw, mine works.
[06:56] <mustard5> read this message from ubotu
[06:56] <mustard5> !register
[06:56] <ubotu> it has been said that register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[06:56] <HermanDE> pico2: Complete iptables config utility....
[06:56] <frazmanw> sethk, cd . && aclocal-1.9
[06:56] <frazmanw> /bin/sh: aclocal-1.9: command not found
[06:56] <frazmanw> make: *** [aclocal.m4]  Error 127
[06:56] <sethk> frazmanw, has warnings, but no errors
[06:56] <thundr> mr_clark, you really shouldn't.  That's non-free software and the default kubuntu install shouldn't need it
[06:56] <michael> n00b, give me a second
[06:56] <HermanDE> pico2: Just that the config is text only...  But easy to understand....
[06:56] <frazmanw> sethk, you did make in that same dir?
[06:56] <sethk> frazmanw, you don't have autoconf/automake installed (or you don't have the right version)
[06:56] <_jason> thundr: I think he needs that to get kde3.5, they upgraded it I believe
[06:56] <sethk> frazmanw, yes, in the enet directory
[06:57] <michael> n00b, http://www.linux-gamers.net/modules/wfsection/article.php?articleid=45
[06:57] <scanwinder> when i try to record something in xawtv in avi, the file has no sound, can someone help me with it?
[06:57] <mr_clark> thundr, Thanks. That appears to have worked. installing right now.
[06:58] <mr_clark> _jason, thanks also.
[06:58] <frazmanw> sethk, ok installing autoconf, but which ver of automake do i want
[06:58] <thundr> Sounds good, mr_clark.  Good luck!  Thanks _jason
[06:58] <_jason> thundr, mr_clark: thanks
[06:58] <sethk> frazmanw, try the most recent first.
[06:59] <pico2> HermanDE, thanks i'll try it out
[06:59] <HermanDE> pico2: I think there is a shorewall-doc as well....
[06:59] <n00b> michael: thank you
[07:00] <michael> n00b, do the instructions make sense to you?
[07:00] <frazmanw> sethk, ok make && make install worked I think. I will try now
[07:01] <sethk> frazmanw, I think you will also have to go back to src and build there.  My build in src failed because it didn't find the enet library.  The enet library is what you just built.
[07:01] <frazmanw> sethk, i was just about to say i thought that
[07:02] <HermanDE> scanwinder: Have you tried using mplayer to record?
[07:02] <HermanDE> I guess pico2 has discovered shorewall..  :)
[07:03] <michael> how can i configure my clipboard?
[07:03] <Razor-X> HermanDE: mplayer can record?
[07:03] <Razor-X> michael: clipboard?
[07:03] <scanwinder> HermanDE: no i havent tried that
[07:03] <michael> like ctrl+x, ctrl+v
[07:03] <scanwinder> HermanDE: i dont even have it installed...ill try now
[07:03] <HermanDE> Razor-X: mencoder is part of mplayer
[07:03] <Razor-X> michael: in what app?
[07:03] <Razor-X> HermanDE: oh, pshhh ;)
[07:04] <michael> I want things to remain on the clipboard after I close a window so I can paste it into another program - even after closing it
[07:04] <HermanDE> Razor-X: It's true I'll tell ya....
[07:04] <frazmanw> sethk, ugg errors in src make all
[07:05] <scanwinder> HermanDE: how do i get mplayer to use v4l?
[07:05] <sethk> frazmanw, did you had -fpermissive to the makefile?
[07:05] <frazmanw> sethk, oops
[07:05] <Razor-X> michael: into what app, I meant
[07:05] <HermanDE> scanwinder: you just tell it to get the video from v4l or anything else.....
[07:05] <Razor-X> michael: from what app, and into what app?
[07:05] <frazmanw> sethk, make: permissive: No such file or directory
[07:05] <frazmanw> make: *** No rule to make target `permissive'.  Stop.
[07:05] <HermanDE> scanwinder: And then tell it the format of the output....  Pretty simple once you see it....
[07:05] <scanwinder> HermanDE: how do i tell it?
[07:06] <sethk> frazmanw, edit the makefile, and add   -fpermissive   to the compiler flag line
[07:06] <frazmanw> sethk, oh
[07:06] <HermanDE> scanwinder: use the option -tv v4l
[07:06] <michael> Razor-X,i was hoping any app into any app - but usually gaim to either terminal or firefox
[07:06] <Razor-X> michael: terminal tends to pose the greatest number of problems
[07:07] <scanwinder> HermanDE: Option tv: Unknown suboption v4l
[07:07] <cyphase> is someone working on a way for non-root users to install software *in their home folder*?
[07:07] <Razor-X> michael: what term do you use, and how do you copy and paste?
[07:07] <cyphase> obviously you can extract a tarball..
[07:07] <HermanDE> scanwinder: Actually that sould be driver=tv:v4l
[07:07] <cyphase> but i mean something that's easilty managed
[07:07] <frazmanw> seth cflags` -fpermissive    ?? or in " or what
[07:07] <thundr> cyphase, what purpose would that serve?
[07:07] <michael> Razor-X, make it easy here, gaim to firefox, using Ctrl+X and Ctrl+V
[07:08] <HermanDE> scanwinder: Gawd....  -tv driver=v4l
[07:08] <n00b> michael: so far they do
[07:08] <michael> *esay fore me*
[07:08] <cyphase> thundr, allowing users to install software from a synaptic type interface
[07:08] <HermanDE> scanwinder: I'm just reading the man page...  :)
[07:08] <frazmanw> sethk, oops got name wrong above. ^^
[07:08] <cyphase> again, in their home folder, not for the whole system
[07:08] <jblack> Hi. postfix seems broken for me on dapper.
[07:08] <jblack> postfix -v check reports:
[07:08] <thundr> but then it wouldn't be for all users.  WinXP needs admin privs to install most any app.
[07:08] <jblack>  /etc/postfix/postfix-script: line 211: /usr/sbin/postfix-script: No such file or directory
[07:08] <cyphase> thundr, i know it wouldn't be for all users
[07:09] <scanwinder> HermanDE: doing that tells me to read the man page.....ill read it and see if i can work it out myself....thanks for ur help
[07:09] <cyphase> that's the point
[07:09] <Razor-X> michael: that should work, should it not? what WM are you using? standard Gnome?
[07:09] <thundr> cyphase, would you have to edit the debs?
[07:09] <HermanDE> scanwinder: Actually you may want to use mencoder...  It is usually part of the mplayer package...  But ubuntu divided'em up....
[07:09] <cyphase> thundr, i don't know how it would be done
[07:09] <mustard5> jblack, being on dapper its hard to tell what to do
[07:09] <cyphase> possibly edditing debs..
[07:09] <cyphase> editing*
[07:09] <mustard5> jblack, things are going to break all the time
[07:10] <mustard5> jblack, you looked over the Dapper Development forum in Ubuntuforums?
[07:10] <thundr> cyphase, I'm new to it, I really don't know either.
[07:10] <jblack> Sounds like a good place to check.
[07:10] <michael> it works fine, but if i close gaim b4 using Ctrl+V then the clipboard erases the data on it because the program that created it has closed
[07:10] <_jason> michael: what version of ubuntu?
[07:10] <mustard5> jblack, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[07:10] <michael> breezy
[07:11] <frazmanw> sethk, ?? cflags` -fpermissive   ? or somewhere else?
[07:11] <DGH[Nocturn] > hey folks. i get an error installing ubuntu: "unable to install the selected kernel" anyone knows why?
[07:11] <mustard5> jblack, you might find your not alone :)
[07:11] <_jason> hrmm I thought they added a clipboard daemon
[07:11] <pico2> HermanDE, I checked out Shorewall, but as i've already got my firewall rules written for iptables, i'd rather configure it manually. Could you advise me why my update-rc.d command does not work?
[07:11] <cyphase> thundr, possibly have a copy of apt in the users home folder
[07:11] <mustard5> _jason, I read a thread yesterday and it appears its not installed
[07:11] <jblack> mustard5: Yeah. Well, I figure that since I work at the company and all, I should run it. :)
[07:11] <_jason> mustard5: oh
[07:12] <HermanDE> pico2: What does it look like>?
[07:12] <cyphase> i don't know
[07:12] <pico2> HermanDE: update-rc.d iptables start 37 S . stop 37 0 .
[07:12] <jblack> somebody needs to test before a cd gets cut and everyone gets burned. =)
[07:12] <mustard5> _jason, I don't think its even in the repos atm
[07:12] <mustard5> _jason, it definitely needs to be :)
[07:12] <pico2> HermanDE, it starts the initscript on bootup no problems. however it does not stop the service when i poweroff or reboot
[07:13] <thundr> michael, I might not be remembering this right, but I think in xubuntu there's an option for clipboards preferences.  _jason, I remember finding something in the repositories about a clipboard applet similar to the MS word one.
[07:14] <HermanDE> pico2: So you have the start as the 37th and the stop as the 37th....
[07:14] <HermanDE> pico2: I'd guess that there are things that stop before this stops.....
[07:15] <varsendagger> hey how do i make my icons smaller on my desktop?
[07:15] <sethk> frazmanw, cflags, or cppflags.  any line that ends up as part of the g++ command
[07:15] <mustard5> varsendagger, right click..choose stretch icon
[07:15] <bur[n] er> anyone know what package the "run dialog" is in?
[07:16] <varsendagger> but all of them collectively
[07:16] <mustard5> varsendagger, not sure about that one :)
[07:16] <HermanDE> pico2: I'd suggest making the stop at item 20...  But the bigger question is to ask..... WHY STOP?
[07:16] <intelikey> well i'm back.
[07:16] <varsendagger> thanks
[07:16] <sethk> varsendagger, you can do it in kde, but I don't know how in  gnome
[07:16] <frazmanw> sethk, still errors. hmm
[07:16] <varsendagger> sethk, i know
[07:17] <HermanDE> pico2: The kernel firewall is just a setting.  It is located in the /proc and resets every time the system boots....
[07:17] <sethk> varsendagger, sorry, I'm sure it's possible in gnome but I've never found it.
[07:17] <_jason> thundr: I seem to be able to: open gedit, write something, ctrl+c, close gedit, paste somewhere
[07:17] <thundr> varsendagger, I know how to do it in xubuntu, but not here in gnome
[07:17] <HermanDE> pico2: It is not a service.  It is just a string of commands that tells the kernel firewall how to treat packets....
[07:18] <intelikey> !what provides /etc/modules/*
[07:18] <ubotu> intelikey: Are you smoking crack?
[07:18] <pico2> HermanDE, oh.. i guess you have a point
[07:18] <intelikey> well anybody know ?
[07:18] <_jason> thundr: mentioned in release notes as well, http://www.gnome.org/start/2.12/notes/en/rnusers.html
[07:18] <bur[n] er> intelikey: the kernel
[07:18] <thundr> intelikey, yeah, ubotu's real nice sometimes :)
[07:18] <thundr> _jason, that's cool.
[07:18] <sethk> intelikey, look at the man page for modprobe
[07:18] <HermanDE> intelikey: Yes, the kernel provides the modules...  :)
[07:19] <intelikey> i need to refresh my /etc/modules/* files.   not modules just the configs in /etc/modules
[07:19] <Cythril> Could someone send me some kind of walthrough for unraring a file?  I've got it sitting on my desktop and I really wanna get it open.
[07:19] <HermanDE> intelikey: how about update-modules
[07:20] <thundr> Cythril, you need the rar archiver.
[07:20] <HermanDE> Cythril: rar -x myfilename.rar
[07:20] <bnD> can anyone help me out? i am unable to use TTY1-6 by hitting ctrl+alt+f1-6
[07:20] <michael> Razor-X, _jason, thundr, do you have any answer for me?
[07:20] <sethk> intelikey, right.  look at the man page for modprobe
[07:20] <bnD> im using wdm + fluxbox
[07:20] <HermanDE> Cythril: or    rar x myfilename.rar
[07:20] <bnD> when i hit ctrl+alt+backspace wdm closes and im stuck staring at a black screen
[07:20] <joseph> I just installed the updated kernel, how do I get my nvidia drivers to work with it?
[07:20] <HermanDE> bnD: check out /etc/inittab
[07:20] <hehe> elo! i need a good fax solution... need both "send" and "receive" fax functions... any ideas?
[07:20] <sethk> intelikey, modprobe doesn't create the database, it uses it, but the man page describes how to create the database
[07:20] <HermanDE> bnD: Ensure that you have a getty on each console....
[07:20] <mustard5> varsendagger, I found it!
[07:21] <HermanDE> bnD: once that is checked....
[07:21] <_jason> michael: gnome apparently has a clipboard daemon.  If it isn't working for you and you can reproduce it, make a bug report at gnome.org
[07:21] <bnD> HermanDE, they are running according to ps aux
[07:21] <HermanDE> bnD: Then try init -q
[07:21] <mustard5> varsendagger, open up a nautilus window...go to preferences..and change the default zoom :)
[07:21] <HermanDE> bnD: Get a keyboard that works?
[07:21] <intelikey> ok error on my part.  not /etc/modules/  /etc/modutils/*
[07:21] <DGH[Nocturn] > hey folks. i get an error installing ubuntu: "unable to install the selected kernel" anyone knows why?
[07:21] <bnD> HermanDE, i can also access them in the last 4 seconds when the display manager has closed and the pc is shutting down... just not when xserver is running, and if i forcibly close xserver when it was run by root, i just get black screen
[07:22] <hehe> elo! i need a good fax solution... need both "send" and "receive" fax functions... any ideas?
[07:22] <bnD> so it isnt the keyboard
[07:22] <HermanDE> bnD:  Ok....  You are running X as root?
[07:22] <bnD> HermanDE, it is run on startup by root
[07:22] <bnD> in init.d
[07:22] <bnD> i could solve that by running it manually
[07:23] <bnD> but i still cant get to TTY 1-6
[07:23] <thundr> hehe, start with a fax/modem
[07:23] <nevyn> hehe: the king of linux fax software is hylafax
[07:23] <joseph> I just installed the updated kernel, how do I get my nvidia drivers to work with it?
[07:23] <bnD> with xserver running
[07:23] <bnD> if i remove it
[07:23] <bnD> i can
[07:23] <nevyn> hehe: but it's kinda big...
[07:23] <bnD> but id like to have a display manager lol
[07:23] <mustard5> varsendagger, ?  you get that message?
[07:24] <hehe> nevyn: is it easy to install?
[07:24] <nevyn> synaptic should have it.
[07:24] <bnD> HermanDE, it also doesnt matter if im running xdm or wdm, and ive completely removed them and reinstalled, so im thinking its an xserver setting somewhere?
[07:24] <Aven> help!
[07:24] <nevyn> hehe: but there is possbily some simpler software that provides the basics
[07:25] <bnD> i just reinstalled the other day and got everything configed to my liking, i dont wanna do it again :/
[07:25] <varsendagger> mustard5, what message?] ||||||
[07:25] <Aven> see, I was reinstalling firefox and accidently stopped it when it was installing
[07:25] <mustard5> varsendagger, open up a nautilus window...go to preferences..and change the default zoom :)
[07:25] <varsendagger> oh yeah
[07:25] <Aven> so everytime I apt-get it gives error in line 9267 in /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:25] <varsendagger> gotit thankyou
[07:25] <Aven> can anyone look in their /var/lib/dpkg/status
[07:25] <Aven> and tell me what's after
[07:26] <Aven> Package: gnome-app-install
[07:26] <Aven> Status: purge ok installed
[07:26] <Aven> Priority: optional
[07:26] <Aven> Section: gnome
[07:26] <Aven> Architecture: all
[07:26] <HermanDE> bnD: Hmm..  Are you running a framebuffer from the kernel?
[07:26] <Aven> basiclly, I need the code for the gnome-install package
[07:26] <HermanDE> bnD: Might need fbgetty....
[07:26] <hehe> nevyn: i work with media here in manila :-) i need a program that could receive some faxes. but i send faxes more often... got any ideas aside from the one you suggested. btw, am a newbie ubuntu convert
[07:26] <redwolf> got an interesting problem...trying to compile my own kernel, and getting errors about unknown file system 'devfs'
[07:26] <intelikey> hmmm is it possable that linux left some SIG or code of some sort in a cdrom drive that i pulled from a box and put in another ?     cause it was working fine, i moved the drive and it would never open without i applied phisical pressure to the tray,  worked ok other than that.   then i installed the same system on that box, and now the drive works correctly again.  even with the first os.     really weird.
[07:27] <cafuego> redwolf: What on earth are you doing with devfs?
[07:27] <nevyn> hehe: use kubuntu and kfax :-P
[07:27] <HermanDE> hehe: Is this for a network fax server...  Or a single user fax?
[07:27] <bnD> HermanDE, i didnt change the kernel in any way, its the linux-image-686
[07:27] <redwolf> cafuego: I don't know, I'm not using it AFAIK
[07:27] <Aven> anyone?
[07:27] <HermanDE> bnD: Are you running on a framebuffer?
[07:27] <cafuego> redwolf: No, it's been deprecated for ages.
[07:27] <mustard5> Aven, wouldnt there be another way?
[07:27] <cafuego> redwolf: Ant reason you're not using a prebuilt kernel?
[07:27] <Aven> well, what would it be?
[07:27] <redwolf> cafuego: I know...but it's asking for it all the same
[07:27] <redwolf> cafuego: using a latency patch
[07:27] <bnD> HermanDE, im unsure, how do i tell?
[07:28] <mustard5> Aven, I'm still thinking about it :)
[07:28] <intelikey> could the drive have stored the 'lock' command or something ?
[07:28] <Aven> I'm just asking, can you tell me what you have for Package 'gnome-app-install'?
[07:28] <joseph> I just installed the updated kernel, how do I get my nvidia drivers to work with it?
[07:28] <Aven> because line 9267 is empty
[07:28] <cafuego> redwolf: Hint: use the ubuntu kernel-source, apply your patch, use the Ubuntu build script.
[07:28] <HermanDE> bnD: load up fbset and use that command.....
[07:28] <n00b> Okay, i have a problem with the CVS version of Cedega... It won't bloody install and i get an error. Can anyone help?
[07:28] <redwolf> cafuego: ok, I'll try that then... (darn, was hoping to see 2.6.15)
[07:28] <HermanDE> bnD: do an lsmod and look to see if any of the framebuffer mods are in use....
[07:28] <hehe> HermanDE, its for a single user (me)
[07:29] <mustard5> Aven, so what exactly occured when your were installing?
[07:29] <HermanDE> hehe: efax....
[07:29] <hehe> herman
[07:29] <Aven> dpkg: parse error, in file `/var/lib/dpkg/status' near line 9267 package `gnome-app-install':
[07:29] <cafuego> redwolf: Dapper Drake kernel-source-2.6.15
[07:29] <bnD> HermanDE, brb
[07:29] <Aven> basiclly, the text of the 'gnome-app-install' got cut off
[07:29] <hehe> HermanDE,  with efax, i could send and receive faxes?
[07:29] <Aven> so I need to fix the file
[07:29] <HermanDE> hehe: Not the commercial EFax system....  the program called efax....
[07:29] <cafuego> redwolf: Mind you, you'll need additional updates too... for module-init-tools and udev. (It's going to be painful).
[07:29] <Aven> so can you please tell me what it says for the gnome-app-install text
[07:29] <HermanDE> hehe: do an apt-cache search efax
[07:29] <Aven> or would a complete reinstallation be better?
[07:30] <joseph> I just installed the updated kernel, how do I get my nvidia drivers to work with it?
[07:30] <hehe> HermanDE,  nevyn: i used to use winfax :-(
[07:30] <HermanDE> hehe: Or use kfax
[07:30] <redwolf> cafuego: oh joy..will probably stick with normal 2.6.10 then
[07:30] <Aven> anyone?
[07:30] <bnD> HermanDE, fbcon was listed under lsmod, is that framebuffer?
[07:30] <cafuego> redwolf: ;-)
[07:30] <B|ackHawk> hi all
[07:30] <HermanDE> bnD: yep...  Was it in use?
[07:30] <cafuego> redwolf: Breezy does have 2.6.12 though.
[07:30] <thundr> n00b, CVS install is not very user friendly for newbies.
[07:30] <mustard5> Aven, I don't think messing with the apt files is going to help much..you might end up making things worse
[07:30] <redwolf> cafuego: oh yeah, meant that one...let me try patching that up then
[07:30] <Aven> mustard5: I know what I'm doing though
[07:30] <B|ackHawk> this is a geat OS... just installed it!
[07:30] <bnD> HermanDE, how do i tell?
[07:31] <mustard5> Aven, ok then..hang on ..I'm finding it
[07:31] <Aven> :)
[07:31] <HermanDE> bnD: do an lsmod | grep "fb"
[07:31] <HermanDE> bnD: Does any show something other than 0?
[07:31] <joseph> I just installed the updated kernel, how do I get my nvidia drivers to work with it?
[07:31] <bnD> HermanDE, seems to be in use
[07:31] <HermanDE> bnD: s/does/do/
[07:32] <bnD> vesafb as well HermanDE
[07:32] <M3t4ll1k0> hi all
[07:32] <HermanDE> bnD: Then that would be my guess as to why your consoles are not working....
[07:32] <thundr> joseph, are you sure you need to?  I updated my kernel and didn't need to change anything.
[07:32] <bnD> HermanDE, so whats the prob? and how do i fix it?
[07:32] <HermanDE> bnD: That would probably mean that you are running vesafb on the consoles as a frame buffer....
[07:32] <bnD> HermanDE, meaning?
[07:32] <bnD> im sorry
[07:32] <cafuego> joseph: You will need the appropriate linux-restricted-modules package.
[07:33] <HermanDE> bnD: Try and load fbgetty or unload vesafb...  Make a choice....
[07:33] <mustard5> Aven, I did search in my status file and I have no mention of gnome-app-install
[07:33] <B|ackHawk> how do i play MP3's?
[07:33] <HermanDE> bnD: Just take note that your X may be using vesafb....
[07:33] <bnD> HermanDE, ok, and is there a way to tell why framebuffer was running?
[07:33] <bnD> i didnt change the kernel in anyway
[07:33] <M3t4ll1k0> anyone had used a wheel in linux
[07:33] <bnD> or is that set in  xorg conf?
[07:33] <Aven> mustard5: different package probably :\
[07:33] <HermanDE> bnD: I'd suggest going into inittab..  deactivating all of the gettys....
[07:33] <hehe> HermanDE, how do i install efax
[07:33] <ps> B|ackHawk: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:33] <M3t4ll1k0> i cant get work my logitech momo racin wheel
[07:33] <HermanDE> bnD: hitting init -q
[07:33] <M3t4ll1k0> can anyone help me?
[07:34] <HermanDE> bnD: unload fbconsole
[07:34] <Aven> is gnome-app-install an important package?
[07:34] <HermanDE> bnD: reactivate all of the deactivated gettys
[07:34] <HermanDE> bnD: do an init -q again...
[07:34] <n00b> thundr: yes i understand that, but i want the full version without having to pay because i cant atm
[07:34] <HermanDE> bnD: See what happens....
[07:34] <bnD> HermanDE, init -q command not found?
[07:34] <HermanDE> bnD: that should be init q
[07:34] <mustard5> Aven, I don't know..its sounds important :)
[07:34] <bnD> HermanDE, init: command not found
[07:35] <cafuego> bnD: sudo init q
[07:35] <HermanDE> bnD: Are you running as root?
[07:35] <bnD> HermanDE, ah
[07:35] <HermanDE> cafuego: I FSCK'd up on the imac info....
[07:35] <cafuego> HermanDE: Yes, I know ;-)
[07:35] <bnD> ok
[07:35] <bnD> i hit init q
[07:36] <bnD> hrm
[07:36] <mustard5> Aven, I have to reconnect..brb
[07:36] <bnD> HermanDE, is it possible that fbconsole is part of fluxbox?
[07:36] <HermanDE> cafuego: The important point was I spent hours debugging pre woody on a 1st gen IMAC.....  oldworld imac....
[07:36] <M3t4ll1k0> anyone had used a wheel in linux, can anyone help me to make work a a gamming whell in linux?
[07:36] <HermanDE> bnD: fbconsole is Frame Buffer console....
[07:36] <hehe> HermanDE, i checked out http://efax-gtk.sourceforge.net/README but the page looked greek to me.
[07:36] <bnD> HermanDE, ok, and how do i deactive getts from inittab?
[07:36] <HermanDE> bnD: fluxbox is a really neat window manager....
[07:36] <Nivko> i'have a problem, how i can start programms if ubuntu starts (When the pc starts up)
[07:37] <bnD> HermanDE, i like it
[07:37] <HermanDE> hehe: apt-get install apt-get
[07:37] <thundr> n00b, you can't get the full version without paying or doing the trial.  The CVS is limited, and doesn't include all the patented things that the full version has.  You can use that or see if Wine will work better for you.  Wine's an easier install by far.  It can run Steam and other games fairly well.
[07:37] <bnD> HermanDE, nano inittab?
[07:37] <HermanDE> hehe: that should be apt-get install efax
[07:37] <HermanDE> bnD: Sure...  I like vi....
[07:37] <cafuego> bnD: Put a # in front of their definition line. Any reason you want to disable gettys though?
[07:37] <bnD> cafuego, dunno im just following instructions :x
[07:37] <HermanDE> bnD: Or you could use notepad or if you like really long command lines sed.
[07:37] <cafuego> bnD: Don't.
[07:37] <Nivko> i'have a problem, how i can start programms if ubuntu starts (When the pc starts up)
[07:37] <bnD> cafuego, i cant use them anyways atm
[07:38] <cafuego> bnD: Well... instructions for what? :-)
[07:38] <thundr> n00b, I'd try using Wine first (it's free) and messing around with it for a while.  If it doesn't do what you need it to do, try the CVS version of cedega.
[07:38] <HermanDE> cafuego: They don't work.....  He might be using a fbconsole with a misconfigured getty....
[07:38] <bnD> HermanDE, do i need to forcibly close the running gettys?
[07:38] <bnD> or just comment them out?
[07:38] <cafuego> HermanDE: Unless he's messed up inittab... getty doesn't care how its displayed (fbcon of vgacon)
[07:39] <thundr> Nivko, when the computer starts or right after you log in?
[07:39] <HermanDE> bnD: Just comment them out....
[07:39] <bnD> HermanDE, ok done, now kill -9 fbconsoles pid?
[07:39] <Aven> mustard5: I fixed the issue :)
[07:39] <Nivko> thundr: if the computer starts the default user login (niels)
[07:39] <cafuego> bnD: Do NOT comment them ALL out.
[07:39] <hehe> HermanDE, thanks!!!
[07:39] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you have a fbconsole running?
[07:39] <Nivko> and he must start xampp (Webserver, php,mysql)
[07:39] <bnD> HermanDE, yes
[07:39] <Aven> gnome-app-install corrupted the last time I was trying to remove it
[07:39] <mustard5> Aven, what did you do?
[07:39] <Aven> so the file somehow marked it as "installed"
[07:40] <Aven> so I just put "not-installed" instead and now everything works
[07:40] <Aven> :)
[07:40] <HermanDE> bnD: That should be a kernel module....hmmmm...
[07:40] <n00b> thundr: would you be able to tell me where i can get a full version of it?
[07:40] <mustard5> Aven, ah ok :)
[07:40] <thundr> Nivko, before the login screen?  Or after you log in?
[07:40] <mustard5> Aven, clever ;)
[07:40] <bnD> HermanDE, i didnt change the kernel in any way either :/
[07:40] <viscount> I seem to have set a keyboard shortcut for gnome-terminal and cant figure out how to unset it, can anyone help? I've checked Gnome-terminal->Edit->keyboard shortcuts, and gconf-editor->gnometerminal->keybindings but neither of them are showing this shortcut.
[07:40] <Nivko> if i'm logged in
[07:40] <cafuego> HermanDE: Any chance he's in single-user mode, with only tty1?
[07:40] <viscount> I somehow set <ctrl>-k to open a new tab
[07:40] <bnD> cafuego, no
[07:40] <bnD> theyre running
[07:40] <n00b> thundr: in terms of bittorrent?
[07:41] <cyphase> does anyone know anything about Google being asked for search histories by the government?
[07:41] <bnD> i can get to them while the pc is shutting down
[07:41] <thundr> n00b, despite being illegal, I wouldn't know.  Really, try Wine first if you haven't already.
[07:41] <bnD> just not when xserver is running
[07:41] <cafuego> bnD: You in dapper?
[07:41] <bnD> :/
[07:41] <bnD> cafuego, no breezsy
[07:41] <bnD> breezy*
[07:41] <HermanDE> cafuego: Hmm..  He reports that getty is running on each console iaw ps...
[07:41] <Nivko> thundr: Can you help me then?
[07:41] <bnD> and i can switch between them upon shutdown for those last moments
[07:41] <bnD> lol
[07:41] <bnD> of course the only way i can shutdown atm is by pressing the power button
[07:41] <bnD> which i dont particularly like
[07:41] <bnD> well
[07:41] <bnD> maybe through xterm
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> thundr: Now this is odd.  I figured out how to set an aim away message in centericq, but I still don't know how to read them.  (The guide wasn't very specific, and I'm not seeing what it thinks is there.)
[07:42] <bnD> but im stupid
[07:42] <bnD> and i want my real consoles back
[07:42] <bnD> :/
[07:42] <cafuego> bnD: Running anything in X that is redirectly alt-F1 through alt-F6?
[07:42] <bnD> cafuego, no idea
[07:42] <thundr> Nivko, yes, if all you want is to have a program start up after you've logged in to gnome, it's no problem.
[07:42] <HermanDE> bnD: If you have a process called fbconsoles..  That might be the problem....
[07:42] <n00b> thundr: yes but... i just want the "whole" package... if you get what imean
[07:42] <bnD> HermanDE, actually
[07:42] <Nivko> ye
[07:42] <Nivko> i want that
[07:42] <bnD> fbconsole is NOT running a process
[07:42] <bnD> :/
[07:42] <TokenBad> hey I did the update for the new kernal for ubuntu..and my inet speed went way down...I had to go back to the previeus version to get my speed back...
[07:42] <bnD> grep found nothing
[07:43] <intelikey> howto force reinstall of a package ?
[07:43] <HermanDE> bnD: Ok...  Now try lsmod and see if anything is using fbconsole
[07:43] <cafuego> sudo apt-get install --reinstall <package>
[07:43] <intelikey> ty
[07:43] <cafuego> or choose 'Force reinstall' in Synaptic.
[07:43] <intelikey> no gui
[07:43] <bnD> HermanDE, tileblit                2368  1 fbcon
[07:43] <bnD> font                    8224  1 fbcon
[07:43] <bnD> bitblit                 5632  1 fbcon
[07:43] <TokenBad> Has anyone else had that problem?
[07:43] <thundr> n00b, either using Wine or the Cedega CVS or the Cedega trial are the only free solutions for running windows programs that I am aware of.
[07:43] <intelikey> my whole install is less than 200m
[07:43] <Nivko> help me plz
[07:43] <bnD> intelikey, with gui?
[07:44] <intelikey> no
[07:44] <bnD> ah ok
[07:44] <bnD> how did you get less than the server install?
[07:44] <bnD> removed?
[07:44] <bnD> with server + gui i got <650mb
[07:44] <bnD> :)
[07:44] <thundr> Nivko, sure, I just have to remember.  It's been a while.
[07:44] <intelikey> didn't have the space so i had to hand install most of it.
[07:44] <n00b> thundr: would you be able to tell me how to actully install the trial then?
[07:44] <bnD> intelikey, livecd
[07:44] <TokenBad> Anyone?
[07:44] <Nivko> ok, i wait :P
[07:44] <bnD> ?
[07:45] <bnD> cafuego, HermanDE any more thoughts? im getting close to just reinstalling and reconfiging everything ;/
[07:45] <intelikey> bnD no  not enough ram for that.
[07:45] <intelikey> 64m
[07:45] <cafuego> bnD: Not really.
[07:45] <bnD> intelikey, howd ya do it then?
[07:45] <bnD> cafuego, okie dokie
[07:45] <thundr> n00b, I've never done it before, and I really can't tonight.  I have to get some sleep.  Some other time maybe, though.
[07:45] <thundr> Nivko, got it.
[07:45] <intelikey> from the install cd.  and pivot_root and went to work.
[07:45] <bnD> ah
[07:45] <Nivko> k
[07:45] <bnD> i didnt know that was an option
[07:45] <Nivko> say it:p
[07:46] <bnD> i might have to try less than 650mb then
[07:46] <thundr> Nivko, click on the menu System --> Preferences --> Sessions then go to startup
[07:46] <intelikey> it's not.....  hehhe
[07:46] <bnD> :D
[07:46] <Nivko> ok
[07:46] <bnD> intelikey, well damn, whats the secret :P
[07:46] <HermanDE> bnD: try an insmod vga16fb
[07:46] <bnD> HermanDE, ok, brb
[07:46] <HermanDE> bnD: Then reactivate your gettys.....
[07:46] <n00b> thundr: thats ok
[07:46] <intelikey> console  man  console   that's the BIG secret behind linux
[07:46] <thundr> Nivko, then just click on "Add..." and type the name or path to your program.
[07:46] <bnD> HermanDE, no such file or directory
[07:47] <bnD> intelikey, yes, but how did you get smaller than server install ;P
[07:47] <HermanDE> bnD: That should be modprobe vga16fb
[07:47] <bnD> HermanDE, i never turned off the gettys
[07:47] <bnD> just commented them out of inittab
[07:47] <HermanDE> bnD: then you need to stop the getty's by doing an init q as root
[07:47] <bnD> ah
[07:47] <bnD> i did that
[07:47] <bnD> didnt know what that did
[07:47] <bnD> lol
[07:48] <graham> The repositories at ubuntu-guide.com use to work for me... now it seems it can't find any of the packages when I try to add them, any suggestions?
[07:48] <HermanDE> bnD: init q just tells the system to reread the inittab and activate/deactivate as needed....
[07:48] <TokenBad> hey I did the update for the new kernal for ubuntu..and my inet speed went way down...I had to go back to the previeus version to get my speed back...
[07:48] <TokenBad> Has anyone else had that problem?
[07:48] <mustard5> graham, which repositories?
[07:48] <HermanDE> bnD: Then turn them back on and do another init q
[07:49] <HermanDE> TokenBad: What type of ethernet device?  Which driver?  Which kernel levels?  Which distro?  What is your chipset?  What is your dogs name?
[07:49] <tonyyarusso> Anyone using a ThinkPad: What kind of battery life do you get?
[07:49] <mustard5> graham you talking about old backports repositories like mirromax and such?
[07:49] <graham> mustard5: well I added the backports for the latest release
[07:49] <graham> yes
[07:49] <mustard5> ah ok
[07:49] <bnD> hrm
[07:49] <mustard5> graham, try this link from ubotu
[07:49] <mustard5> !sources
[07:49] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[07:49] <thundr> tonyyarusso, next to nil, but it's a very old laptop.  :)
[07:49] <graham> cool thanks
[07:50] <TokenBad> onboard ethernet so not sure...
[07:50] <intelikey> like i said. i started the install and when it got far enough along to run a console (and crashed due to lack of hdd space) i booted the cd and started the installer again, this time only going to the partitioning step so it would load the ide and cdrom modules.  then in the console used pivot_root and cleaned out some room and installed the kernel and lilo made it boot able and 'ba da bing' here is me on 172m ubuntu instal
[07:50] <bnD> HermanDE, theyre running again, no diff, and when i hit alt+ctrl+f1 in xterm i get 'P' on the screen . .
[07:50] <bnD> didnt notice that before
[07:50] <bnD> could the keys be mapped incorrectly somehow?
[07:50] <mustard5> graham, there are a links in that message from ubotu showing standard sources.list  or you can try typeing !easysource in irc
[07:50] <graham> awesome
[07:50] <TokenBad> not sure how to get some of that info HermanDE
[07:50] <HermanDE> bnD: Get out of xterm....  Ensure you don't have anything active...  Then try ctrl-alt-f1
[07:50] <tonyyarusso> thundr: Okay...  Only a few months old on this one.  I can get just over 2 hours, running X/Gnome, if I turn the LCD brightness all the way down.  It's more like 3 1/2 in Windows.
[07:51] <intelikey> bnD it's not an option. it's a hack.
[07:51] <mustard5> ..the !easysource shows you where to create a new sources.list using a website that creates a sources.list for you
[07:51] <intelikey> you do what you have to do.
[07:51] <bnD> HermanDE, no change
[07:51] <bnD> intelikey, ah
[07:51] <Supra>  -    ? :)
[07:51] <HermanDE> TokenBad: Well, installing linux on an atari 800 is pretty hard anyway...  So, congrats.....
[07:51] <bnD> intelikey, write the howto so i can look it up on the wiki lol
[07:51] <mustard5> graham, you ever edited your sources.list before?
[07:52] <TokenBad> heheh...I have a amd 2.1 ghz
[07:52] <molotov_> How can I bind a key like F4 to open a terminal window? I can't find anything on google.
[07:52] <mustard5> graham, if you need help let me know anyway :)
[07:52] <graham> yea I already edited it
[07:52] <TokenBad>  with 1 gig of ram
[07:52] <graham> I just found that when I tried to apt-get some apps they said "not found"
[07:52] <TokenBad> but not sure how to get the kernal info
[07:52] <graham> like azureus
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> molotov_: System > Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts.
[07:52] <TokenBad> and its ubuntu
[07:52] <intelikey> bnD that would require my regestering.... i'm not that commited to ubuntu yet.
[07:52] <graham> and this is after I did apt-get update
[07:52] <mustard5> !azureus
[07:52] <bnD> intelikey, lol, i know ive seen you in here before
[07:52] <ubotu> from memory, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[07:53] <intelikey> :)
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> molotov_: Just go to the terminal line, click it, and press F4 to set it for that.
[07:53] <bnD> HermanDE, im going to try reconfiguring x.org in case its something set in there
[07:53] <bnD> brb
[07:53] <graham> heh thanks but do you know why I couldn't get any of these through apt-get? are they simply not in the "extras" repository?
[07:53] <molotov_> tonyarusso: doh! thank you
[07:53] <Supra>   _    ;)
[07:53] <intelikey> i've got five boxes sitting here with linux on them, this is the only one with ub on it.
[07:53] <HermanDE> bnD: Hmmm...  I doubt that would be it...  What type of video card are you using?
[07:53] <mustard5> graham I don't think azureus is
[07:53] <tonyyarusso> As a note though, it would be nice if Preferences > Keyboard shortcuts was configurable for *any* action.
[07:54] <HermanDE> bnD: It could be that the video card has a prob with the vesa fb.....
[07:54] <HermanDE> bnD: Might need it's own proper fb....
[07:54] <bnD> HermanDE, im using an ati 9600
[07:54] <mustard5> graham, I'm in the middle of a sudo apt-get update on dialup connection atm..so I can't search :)
[07:54] <HermanDE> bnD: Have you tried the ati modules?
[07:54] <intelikey> i thought the size would make it a challange on any linux so i might as well be mad at ub as any distro..... :)
[07:54] <HermanDE> bnD: Just to clarify...  What happens when you hit ctrl-alt-f1?
[07:55] <graham> mustard5, oh man!
[07:55] <graham> slow!
[07:55] <thundr> tonyyarusso, Mine's over 10 years old :), and it used to get about 2:30-3:30 hours depending on how hard/fast I ran it.  You might want to set it to turn off your hard drive after a short time, that really helped for me.  I was able to blank the screen/turn off the HDD with fn+f3, then turn the screen back on, but I don't know how they've changed since.
[07:55] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you see a black screen?
[07:55] <mustard5> graham, yeah its been going for ten minutes now :)
[07:55] <bnD> HermanDE, ive tried ati as well as 'flgrx' or w/e neither changes a thing
[07:55] <bnD> i see nothing
[07:55] <bnD> im still in tty7
[07:55] <HermanDE> bnD: Nothing as in no video change from X or nothing as in a very black screen?
[07:55] <bnD> no video change
[07:55] <mustard5> graham, yeah..I just searched...azureus is not in the repos
[07:55] <bnD> dont leave tty 7
[07:55] <bnD> and when i type it in a term
[07:56] <bnD> i get letters
[07:56] <HermanDE> bnD: So when you hit ctrl-alt-f1, X.org is still on the screen?
[07:56] <bnD> yes
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> thundr: You didn't have to configure turning off the hard drive?  Fn-F3 *should* turn off the screen, but none of those functions are working at the moment.
[07:56] <graham> ah ok
[07:56] <bnD> intelikey, i found it easier to make ubuntu small then gentoo
[07:56] <intelikey> bnD you probably have to use the 'left'  alt  and ctrl  keys....
[07:56] <graham> mustard5, do you know of a good iTunes replacement for linux?
[07:56] <bnD> intelikey, ive tried both :)
[07:56] <HermanDE> bnD: Which wm are you running?
[07:56] <bnD> HermanDE, fluxbox
[07:56] <bnD> HermanDE, ive never had a prob with flux and this before
[07:56] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you have any key bindings in work?
[07:57] <bnD> HermanDE, nope
[07:57] <mustard5> graham, I don't ..someone else might though
[07:57] <bnD> HermanDE, not that i know of*
[07:57] <bnD> not that i purposely set in the last three days :/
[07:57] <HermanDE> bnD: I'd guess that you have something grabbing the ctrl-alt combo or f1....
[07:57] <bnD> HermanDE, thats what im thinking, but i dont know where to look
[07:57] <graham> does anyone know of a good iTunes'esque replacement for ubuntu?
[07:57] <intelikey> try f8 first.  one system wouldn't let me out of the gui installed without using alt+ctrl+f8  then  #+#+f1
[07:57] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you have a special keyboard that needs to hit a special key to activate the f keys?
[07:57] <bnD> intelikey, no such luck
[07:57] <bnD> HermanDE, nope us104
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> bnD: I had my console switching just go and die on me, only fixed it after a reinstall.
[07:58] <tonyyarusso> graham: SharpMusique.
[07:58] <HermanDE> bnD: Yep...  But some MS keyboards require a caps-lock like switch to activate the f keys....
[07:58] <graham> cool thanks I'll check it out
[07:58] <bnD> tonyyarusso, im thinking thats whats gonna happen here, just dont wanna cus its only been up 3 days, just came back from gentoo
[07:58] <bnD> HermanDE, nope, never needed to before
[07:58] <bnD> just tried caps in case, no diff lol
[07:58] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you have a greeter running?
[07:58] <bnD> HermanDE, greeter?
[07:59] <intelikey> gdm
[07:59] <jblack> Would somebody with breeze mind checking what version of postfix they have?
[07:59] <HermanDE> bnD: Can you log out of the X session then try the ctrl-alt-f1?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> bnD: Yeah, it was seriously annoying.  I diagnosed mine as having something to do with GDM, but didn't get any farther than that.
[07:59] <jblack> breezy, that is
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> bnD: I was able to stop GDM, startx, and then have it work.
[07:59] <bnD> HermanDE, if i close it with ctrl+alt+backspace i get a black screen for tty7 and still cant switch
[07:59] <bnD> tonyyarusso, i dont use gdm :D
[07:59] <bnD> intelikey, xdm and wdm no diff
[07:59] <HermanDE> bnD: So, you are not running a greeter?
[07:59] <tonyyarusso> bnD: Well then I guess it's not the problem anyway!
[07:59] <thundr> tonyyarusso, I think there's several thinkpad-specific packages in the repos that might help you.  I don't know if they are for power-saving or simply to enable shortcut keys.  For me, it worked in Windows or DOS.  Linux wasn't really available to me at the time.
[07:59] <bnD> HermanDE, greeter = ?
[08:00] <intelikey> hmmmm ati  meh
[08:00] <HermanDE> bnD: do you have xdm, gdm or kdm installed?
[08:00] <bnD> HermanDE, i used startx as well without them, same prob, ive tried with xdm, wdm, and with startx
[08:00] <molotov_> I'm trying to fdisk a second hard drive. When I try to write to partitions table I get an error that says the device or resource is busy. I'm encouraged that the new table will be used on reboot, but it's not.
[08:00] <tonyyarusso> thundr: I have some of those, but I'll keep looking, and perusing the ThinkWiki to see if I missed something this time around.
[08:01] <HermanDE> bnD: Are your locales setup correctly?
[08:01] <bnD> HermanDE, how do  i check? i believe so, but..
[08:01] <HermanDE> bnD: dpkg-reconfigure locales
[08:02] <HermanDE> bnD: So even when you exit out of X, you can't switch consoles?
[08:02] <bnD> HermanDE, i can if i run it manually, by taking it down from init.d
[08:02] <HermanDE> bnD: Are you running a usb keyboard?
[08:02] <bnD> regardless if its xdm wdm or startx
[08:02] <bnD> but if root starts it
[08:02] <bnD> on boot
[08:02] <bnD> i cant
[08:02] <HermanDE> bnD: How are you starting it now?
[08:02] <bnD> no usb keyboard
[08:03] <bnD> HermanDE, boot atm
[08:03] <bnD> so if i close it
[08:03] <bnD> im screwed
[08:03] <chavo> I can't switch to ttys from x either
[08:03] <bnD> chavo, really
[08:03] <bnD> weird
[08:03] <HermanDE> bnD: startx is a bit funky...  Not really intended for boot mode...
[08:03] <chavo> with the keyboard
[08:03] <mr_piglet> Anybody have the same problem that Gnome-Terminal doesnt remember its size and shape?
[08:03] <bnD> HermanDE, i didnt load startx from boot
[08:03] <bnD> im using boot / wdm atm
[08:03] <HermanDE> bnD: Might want to try gdm or kdm...or xdm...
[08:04] <bnD> but ive tried all combinations and manually started i can exit, if any are started on boot i cant exit
[08:04] <HermanDE> wtf...  Are you guys running dapper?
[08:04] <bnD> HermanDE, ive tried xdm and gdm, and didnt have the probs before, im thinking its xserver related
[08:04] <thundr> tonyyarusso, Sounds good. I hope it works.  I have happy memories with that computer, even if the display hinges on it weren't worth crap.  :)
[08:04] <chavo> nope, breezy here
[08:04] <bnD> HermanDE, locales were correct
[08:04] <bnD> chavo, did you do the full install?
[08:04] <HermanDE> chavo: What type of video card are you running?
[08:04] <mr_piglet> Its a bit strange, all my other applications remember size and shape, but gnome-terminal always come back in the same shape, its very annoying.
[08:04] <stagger> Hi there! I've got a little problem. My distro is sarge. I was installing some new software whch recquired upgrating glibc library. Unfortunently, I have by mistake killed aptitude which was performing upgrade. Now I have  libc6 and libc6-dev and some others libraries marked as not installed properitly and when I try to reinstall them, the package manager force me to remove all the software depending on glibc. How can I repair those wrongly 
[08:04] <chavo> I can switch to a tty that I'm logged into, using the Swith User menu in KDE
[08:05] <bnD> ah
[08:05] <chavo> but CTRL-ALT-# doesn't work
[08:05] <intelikey> ok why does apt default to wget when you have http/main  and cdrom/main in your sources.list ?    order seems to have nothing to do with it...  ?
[08:05] <B|ackHawk> can someone please help me get an MP3 player working?
[08:05] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, possibly
[08:06] <B|ackHawk> I tried "sudo apt -get install gstreamer0.8-mad" but it didn't work
[08:06] <HermanDE> stagger: You could start by trying the debian room...  Next is to learn to compile....
[08:06] <bnD> man, i really dont want to just start over without finding the problem
[08:06] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, have you enabled extra repositories?
[08:06] <graham> !java
[08:06] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:06] <B|ackHawk> total n00b here folks.  pls try to understand :)
[08:06] <HermanDE> bnD: Don't start over....  Just fix what you have now....
[08:06] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, thats fine :)
[08:06] <bnD> HermanDE, it would only take me an hour or less
[08:06] <bnD> but id be frustrated not knowing the problem
[08:06] <bnD> :)
[08:06] <B|ackHawk> thx man :)
[08:06] <bnD> ive spent over an hour trying to fix it lol
[08:06] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, check this next message from ubotu
[08:06] <chavo> bnD, it used to work for me, and it works on a fresh dapper install
[08:06] <HermanDE> bnD: And that is where you become an expert at installing and not solving....:)
[08:06] <mustard5> !repos
[08:06] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[08:06] <bnD> HermanDE, yeah ;)
[08:07] <B|ackHawk> sec, let me try to... oh ok.
[08:07] <bnD> chavo, strange
[08:07] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, try the first link
[08:07] <bnD> yeesh
[08:07] <HermanDE> chavo: What type of video card are you running?
[08:07] <B|ackHawk> i will.  thanks.  also, is Dapper a newer version of Ubuntu?
[08:07] <chavo> nvidia
[08:07] <tonyyarusso> thundr: You had bad display hinges?  Mine are steel!  They don't look like they're going anywhere.  Actually, none of it does.  In fact, it's already survived and adult man sitting on it while it was closed!
[08:07] <bnD> HermanDE, any thoughts at the moment? if not im going to dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and reboot and see if that changes anything
[08:08] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, Breezy is the latest stable version...Dapper is the development version
[08:08] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, so basically Breezy is the latest
[08:08] <B|ackHawk> oh okay.  just curious. :)
[08:08] <B|ackHawk> man, the support for this stuff is off-the-charts!! :-D
[08:08] <HermanDE> bnD: I'd suggest removing all of the fb stuff...  Then do a dpkg-reconfigure.....  Of course this has to be done with a reboot....
[08:08] <mx-r> help needed - installing wireless ipw2200 according to guide. copying the firmware inside hotplug does mean that it will be loaded every boot or that the adapter will be upgraded?
[08:08] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, np..feel free to ask more questions if you have trouble
[08:08] <bnD> HermanDE, ya
[08:08] <HermanDE> bnD: First deactivate all of the fb stuff in /etc/modules
[08:08] <cafuego> chavo: X is broken on dapper atm actually.
[08:09] <HermanDE> bnD: Then reboot.....
[08:09] <bnD> ill bb, gonna try it out and reboot, yea, ill try it
[08:09] <bnD> afk, then ill bb
[08:09] <bnD> :P
[08:09] <cafuego> well, dapper ppc anyway
[08:09] <HermanDE> bnD: Just remember .bak is not a bad extension....
[08:09] <mr_piglet> can someone else using gnome on ubuntu confirm that this isn't happening for them? Open gnome-terminal, drag the shape around, close the terminal, open the terminal and its back to the original shape?
[08:09] <bnD> HermanDE, always :D
[08:09] <bnD> i have xorg.confbak1-9
[08:09] <bnD> lol
[08:10] <bnD> HermanDE, no fb loaded in /etc/modules
[08:10] <bnD> ;O
[08:10] <mustard5> mr_piglet, yeah..it doesnt remember it
[08:10] <chavo> cafuego, I just installed  flight 3 on a diff partition, works fine for me
[08:10] <thundr> tonyyarusso, mine's been dropped from tables and down stairs, it's durable in all of those regards.  The hinges were awful on mine!  I had them replaced once (though it cost me - support said it was a cosmetic problem :P) and they still broke shortly after I got it back from them.
[08:10] <B|ackHawk> heh... thanks. i'm sure i will be asking plenty more.  i like to figure stuff on my own and it usually works, but this is quite intimidating, esp for someone with NO Linux experience!
[08:10] <cafuego> chavo: Yeah. Don't run an 'apt-get upgrade'.
[08:10] <bnD> B|ackHawk, youre in the right place :)
[08:10] <B|ackHawk> hehe. :)
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> thundr: Icky.  I hope my design is different.
[08:10] <bnD> anyone else using reiserfs?
[08:10] <chavo> ok, well it's just for messing around anyway
[08:10] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, we got all the answers to the easy questions ;)
[08:11] <chavo> that's why I use a separate partition
[08:11] <cafuego> chavo: 1/4 of xorg 7.0 is in, and it doesn't like talking to the remains of xorg 6.8
[08:11] <mr_piglet> mustard5, thank you, thats pretty annoying
[08:11] <mr_piglet> mustard5, but at least Im not alone :P
[08:11] <mustard5> mr_piglet, its is a bit :)
[08:11] <thundr> tonyyarusso, I'm sure they've changed the design from over 10 years ago.   I'd doubt that you'll have problems.
[08:12] <B|ackHawk> lol... easy for YOU... not for me [yet] . ;-)
[08:12] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, :)
[08:12] <thundr> bnD, why do you ask?
[08:12] <B|ackHawk> i'm just grasping the basic concepts in linux... like packages and things.
[08:12] <bnD> thundr, i like it ;)
[08:12] <thundr> bnD, me too!
[08:12] <mustard5> B|ackHawk, it all becomes second nature after a while
[08:12] <B|ackHawk> i only installed this OS today, and it's been VERY interesting.
[08:12] <HermanDE> B|ackHawk: Welcome to the family.....
[08:12] <mx-r> in windows when you had to install firmware it meant flashing a device? what does linux do when you copy new firmware to firmware folder? does it flash or just kinda emulate?
[08:13] <bnD> HermanDE, this mean anything to you? fglrx is loaded by /etc/modules however its not an option under dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:13] <HermanDE> B|ackHawk: Nobody knows....
[08:13] <B|ackHawk> thanks guys! really appreciate it!
[08:13] <HermanDE> bnD: I don't run thoes new fangled video cards...  I like intel 810's and s3 virge.....
[08:13] <bnD> HermanDE, it came with my laptop P:
[08:14] <HermanDE> bnD: Try and comment it out....  worst case is that you put it back in....
[08:14] <bnD> HermanDE, my display didnt work correctly with ATI driver, and fglrx is th eone that works, however it no longer seems to be an option..
[08:14] <Toma-> mx-r, im guessing its saying that everytime its loaded, it loads the drivers, not flashing the actual device
[08:15] <bnD> HermanDE, now that i think about it, before this all happened, i tried running synaptics and had to dpkg -configure -a first
[08:15] <mx-r> Toma- thanks, that is what i wanted to know. i am installing ipw2200 drivers hence wpa does not work :(
[08:15] <Mountainman> what are the basic keys used for keyboard navigation in the gui
[08:15] <HermanDE> bnD: synaptics...  The mouse pad?
[08:15] <mustard5> Mountainman, which particular ones?
[08:16] <HermanDE> Mountainman: Depends on the window manager.....
[08:16] <bnD> HermanDE, synaptic*
[08:16] <Toma-> mx-r, :( good luck. are you following a wiki or howto?
[08:16] <bnD> gui for apt-get
[08:16] <mx-r> Toma- yes i am
[08:16] <bnD> its where it should be
[08:16] <Toma-> mx-r, good stuff
[08:16] <Mountainman> hmmm
[08:16] <HermanDE> bnD: Ok...  I'm thinking input devices..:)
[08:16] <Mountainman> im not actually sure im assisting someone over the phone
[08:17] <mustard5> Mountainman, they are all listed in System>>Preferences>>Keyboard Shortcuts on gnome
[08:17] <Toma-> bnD, what are u trying to do?
[08:17] <mr_piglet> mustard5, edit your gnome-terminal launchter `gnome-terminal --geometry=80x15`
[08:17] <Mountainman> well the mouse isnt working
[08:17] <Mountainman> so keyboard navigation is required
[08:17] <bnD> Toma-, find out why i cant access TTY1-6 with xserver running
[08:17] <morphix> hi.
[08:17] <mustard5> mr_piglet, ah ok :)
[08:17] <morphix> i installed ubuntu base only.. and just installed xfce
[08:17] <morphix> but i cant do startx or xinit
[08:17] <Toma-> bnD, can you switch to the black screens?
[08:17] <morphix> how do i get it to load x?
[08:18] <HermanDE> bnD: And to think.... your only prob is access to the text consoles...:P
[08:18] <Toma-> or is the shortcuts not working?
[08:18] <bnD> Toma-, no
[08:18] <bnD> HermanDE, lol yea
[08:18] <mustard5> mr_piglet, I've pasted that in my sticky notes :)
[08:18] <Toma-> i see
[08:18] <bnD> HermanDE, but it must work correctly!
[08:18] <bnD> because it did last week
[08:18] <mr_piglet> mustard5, I'm gonna post it up at ubuntuforums as well ;)
[08:18] <HermanDE> Mountainman: Are you using a usb mouse?
[08:18] <revdev> morphix: what error message do you get when trying startx?
[08:18] <n00b> How big would Cedega be if i were to download it off emule/bittorrent
[08:18] <Mountainman> yes
[08:18] <Mountainman> generic usb mouse
[08:18] <morphix> bash: command not found
[08:18] <bnD> HermanDE, think it could be at all related to how i have filesystem mounted? i cant think of any other change from when it worked
[08:18] <Toma-> n00b, you cant.
[08:18] <HermanDE> Mountainman: Did you try and unplug/replug it?
[08:18] <mr_piglet> mustard5, you use stick notes as well eh? hehe, I call my whiteboard my external hd
[08:19] <Mountainman> yes
[08:19] <bnD> anyone know whats up with the forums?
[08:19] <mustard5> mr_piglet, I use tomboy
[08:19] <HermanDE> bnD: That is almost like saying the flat tire is caused by the empty gas tank.....
[08:19] <mustard5> mr_piglet, its like sticky notes but has a wiki style to it
[08:19] <bnD> HermanDE, im grasping for straws :P
[08:19] <morphix> i am using irssi atm :/
[08:19] <HermanDE> bnD: I'm thinking about the frame buffer/video card.....
[08:19] <bnD> morphix, you mean you are using irssi atm :D*
[08:19] <bnD> hehe
[08:19] <mustard5> Mountainman, did you see my message on the keyboard shortcuts?
[08:20] <Mountainman> yes
[08:20] <mustard5> k
[08:20] <bnD> HermanDE, tell me what you think i should do now and ill try it lol
[08:20] <HermanDE> bnD: Sorry... I mean keyboard access..  Geeze....
[08:20] <bnD> no fb is running through ps aux | grep gb
[08:20] <bnD> oh
[08:20] <bnD> ok
[08:20] <bnD> ;D
[08:20] <Toma-> bnD, what does 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep XkbRules' return?
[08:20] <bnD> Toma-, one sec
[08:20] <HermanDE> bnD: You should be able to hit ctrl-alt-f1 and access at least a black screen....
[08:20] <bnD> HermanDE, nope :(
[08:20] <bnD> Toma-, yep xorg
[08:21] <Toma-> ok
[08:21] <morphix> well it isnt really that fun using bash only
[08:21] <HermanDE> bnD: Then it's a keybaord input issue....
[08:21] <morphix> so yeh.
[08:21] <bnD> HermanDE, :(
[08:21] <Mountainman> HermanDE: apprently the mouse buttons work but cant move the cursor across the screen
[08:21] <mr_piglet> mustard5, aye, I use the same thing, for my "today" I post it to my whiteboard beside my comp :) productivity skyrockets with +focus
[08:21] <morphix> what do i need to install to get xfce up
[08:21] <bnD> morphix, i like it, but the alt+numbering gets a bit old with many channels open
[08:21] <HermanDE> Mountainman: roller ball or optical?
[08:21] <Mountainman> HermanDE: optical
[08:21] <bnD> morphix, xserver, xdm
[08:21] <morphix> ok
[08:21] <morphix> i'll see what happens
[08:21] <morphix> bbiab.
[08:22] <bnD> morphix, wait up
[08:22] <bnD> i gotta link for you
[08:22] <morphix> ??
[08:22] <bnD> with specific packages
[08:22] <bnD> one sec
[08:22] <HermanDE> Mountainman: reflective surface?
[08:22] <morphix> err..
[08:22] <morphix> can u wait till i come back?
[08:22] <morphix> it aint like i can bookmark the links
[08:22] <morphix> unless i use a pen and write them down
[08:22] <Mountainman> HermanDE: same surface as was used when the system ran Win2k
[08:23] <HermanDE> Mountainman: Is it a three button mouse?
[08:23] <Mountainman> yes
[08:23] <bnD> morphix, you should be ok, but things will be a bit wacky without somethings
[08:23] <stagger> please, help me. I have by mistake killed synaptic during upgrating the libc library and some other packages. I have now glibc6 and glibc6-dev signed as not installed properytly. When I try to reinstall them the package manager wants to remove all the packages depending on libc. How can repair system without this  ?
[08:23] <bnD> morphix, x-windows-system-core , xserver-xorg are important
[08:24] <Toma-> Mountainman, can u plz run 'cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf | grep Protocol' for me?
[08:24] <Toma-> it should be imps/2
[08:24] <Mountainman> HermanDE: nvm about usb is actually PS/2
[08:24] <tracy> hi, is there a repository for the new kde?
[08:24] <bnD> HermanDE, any new thoughts or shall i wait a bit and pester someone else? ;P
[08:24] <Mountainman> how do i get to prompt?
[08:25] <mustard5> stagger, thats a pretty tough question :)
[08:25] <Toma-> Mountainman, Apps > Accessories > Terminal
[08:25] <revdev> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[08:25] <tracy> thanks
[08:25] <revdev> yep
[08:25] <HermanDE> bnD: I hate not having access to the console....  I have given video cards away due to a crappy frame buffer locking out the console...  In thoes cases, I did see a nice black screen.....
[08:25] <HermanDE> bnD: I'd be all over the keyboard input stuff.....
[08:25] <Mountainman> Toma-: mouse doesnt work
[08:25] <bnD> HermanDE, i dont know where to look for that :/
[08:26] <codyro`laptop> Anyone know of a good php suite (not Zend)
[08:26] <HermanDE> bnD: check your x.org config...  See how it defines the keyboard.....
[08:26] <Toma-> Mountainman, Alt-F2, run 'xterm'
[08:26] <QuarkPup> Has anyone tried Google Earth on Wine?
[08:26] <HermanDE> QuarkPup: google earth on beer is much better....
[08:26] <codyro`laptop> Or something decent for coding.. highlighting and any other useful features.. preferably not bloated
[08:27] <morphix> ok i will write them down.. lol then install them :)
[08:27] <bnD> HermanDE, i just reconfigured xserver, including keys, rebooting, cross your fingers ;P
[08:27] <HermanDE> I'm guessing stagger is on a production server running all over the place....
[08:27] <HermanDE> bnD: I'd suggest taking a quick look at the config  first...
[08:28] <bnD> HermanDE, im gonna have to reboot anyways eventually
[08:28] <bnD> xD
[08:28] <HermanDE> bnD: Just do an less on the config....
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> QuarkPup: No, but I think I've heard it works.
[08:28] <bnD> and i can look at the new grub splash i havent seen yet
[08:28] <bnD> which was kinda pointless when i dont reboot typically
[08:28] <bnD> :x
[08:28] <bnD> bb
[08:30] <Mountainman> Toma-: worked
[08:30] <Toma-> what worked?
[08:30] <Toma-> opening xterm?
[08:30] <Toma-> ?? :/
[08:30] <Mountainman> its imp/2
[08:30] <Mountainman> hehe
[08:30] <Mountainman> that cmd
[08:30] <Toma-> oh
[08:30] <Toma-> :D
[08:30] <Toma-> imps/2
[08:30] <Toma-> imps/2 = ftw
[08:31] <ReDeemer> i've got a problem with my vid drivers
[08:31] <HermanDE> Toma-: Could be a winner...:)
[08:31] <Mountainman> so how does this help me
[08:31] <tracy> hmmm that kde repository keeps telling me its NOT AUTHENTICATED. is this a problem?
[08:31] <redwolf> ReDeemer: what's up?
[08:32] <HermanDE> Mountainman: Just helps us....  Is it imp/2 or imps/2?
[08:32] <ReDeemer> i get all kinds of errors when installing my nvidia drivers
[08:32] <redwolf> ReDeemer: I mean, what is your current drivers doing?
[08:32] <Mountainman> imps/2
[08:32] <revdev> does it show the error and exit? or can you continue. if you can continue, do it
[08:32] <ReDeemer> I keep continuing
[08:32] <Toma-> Mountainman, oh, so it was set to imps/2 ?
[08:32] <ReDeemer> i have to keep adding packages
[08:32] <bnD> HermanDE, :(
[08:32] <Mountainman> yes
[08:32] <revdev> sorry.. that was @ tracy
[08:32] <redwolf> ReDeemer: how are you installing them, through apt or with their program?
[08:32] <bnD> HermanDE, i could switch during boot up as well, before xserver was loaded
[08:32] <ReDeemer> but now I'm down to the kernel-source
[08:32] <Toma-> Mountainman, and its a ps/2 mouse? not usb?
[08:32] <HermanDE> bnD: I'll take that as oops.....
[08:33] <Mountainman> yes ps/2
[08:33] <ReDeemer> apt
[08:33] <tracy> revdev, yeah, shows the error but i can still install stuff.
[08:33] <Toma-> Mountainman, try setting it to just "ps/2"
[08:33] <bnD> HermanDE, can you tell me the command to completely remove a package such as in synaptic but from cmd line with apt-get?
[08:33] <HermanDE> bnD: Well how does X.org define your keyboard?
[08:33] <redwolf> ReDeemer: I know it needs at least the headers, don't think it needs the source though
[08:33] <Toma-> i gtg sorry :(
[08:33] <revdev> if all it says is that the packages aren't authenticated, than that's not a problem. i don't think. i got the same message.
[08:33] <bnD> us 104 HermanDE which is correct
[08:33] <HermanDE> bnD: apt-get remove synaptic
[08:33] <redwolf> ReDeemer: What kernel version are you using now?
[08:33] <Mountainman> Toma-: how would i set that?
[08:33] <tracy> heh nice
[08:33] <bnD> HermanDE, that will remove configs etc?
[08:33] <ReDeemer> i've installed all the headers
[08:34] <HermanDE> bnD: append --purge if you want it all gone...
[08:34] <ReDeemer> some wont let me install
[08:34] <bnD> ah ok
[08:34] <bnD> i think im going to remove xserver
[08:34] <bnD> and redo it
[08:34] <bnD> ;/
[08:34] <Toma-> Mountainman, edit the xorg.conf file and change that imps/2 part to ps/2
[08:34] <morphix> um bnD it didnt work
[08:34] <Toma-> good luck!
[08:34] <graham> !dvd
[08:34] <ubotu> Dvd plyaing is possible in Ubuntu with totem, vlc mplayer and other players. You may need !libdvdcss.
[08:34] <bnD> morphix, what didnt work
[08:34] <morphix> it cant find anything apart from xdm
[08:34] <HermanDE> bnD: I hate things like that....
[08:34] <graham> !libdvdcss
[08:34] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, libdvdcss is DVD playing is possible in ubuntu, some DVDs may require libdvdcss2, which is available at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:34] <morphix> in apt-get
[08:34] <redwolf> ReDeemer: You don't need to install all the headers...in fact you shouldn't...you only need the headers for your kernel
[08:34] <bnD> morphix, sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:34] <redwolf> ReDeemer: or kernels, if you need to use more than one
[08:34] <bnD> uncomment the lines for universe and multiverse
[08:34] <bnD> morphix, ^
[08:34] <morphix> i have un #'s the other ones yes
[08:34] <morphix> already
[08:34] <bnD> hrm
[08:35] <graham> !xine
[08:35] <ubotu> graham: Are you smoking crack?
[08:35] <tracy> revdev, i get this: kde:
[08:35] <tracy>  Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[08:35] <tracy>  and then it wont install
[08:35] <morphix> the only one that was found was xdm and thats it
[08:35] <morphix> the others day "cannot find ...."
[08:35] <revdev> tracy what command did you use? apt-get upgrade?
[08:35] <morphix> say*
[08:35] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, can you try and fetch the nvidia kernel packages again, and tell me the exact error it gives?
[08:35] <bnD> you should be able to get xserver-xorg and x-window-sytem-core
[08:36] <bnD> morphix, ^
[08:36] <bnD> try those
[08:36] <morphix> nope
[08:36] <bnD> no?
[08:36] <bnD> weird
[08:36] <morphix> i tried
[08:36] <bnD> breezy?
[08:36] <tracy> revdev, im in synaptic
[08:36] <ReDeemer> well..i am loading the kernel headers now
[08:36] <morphix> yeh
[08:36] <bnD> sudo apt-get update
[08:36] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Oh ok, I'll wait
[08:36] <bnD> morphix, ^?
[08:36] <tracy> ok
[08:36] <morphix> i have
[08:36] <bnD> :/
[08:36] <morphix> twice
[08:36] <tracy> sudo apt-get update kde?
[08:36] <ReDeemer> ok..thanks brb
[08:36] <HermanDE> morphix: try and load aptitude and then use the nice interface to install X...
[08:36] <bnD> HermanDE, any idea why it wouldnt find those packages?
[08:36] <morphix> huh?
[08:36] <morphix> interface? lol
[08:37] <bnD> morphix, they should be under universe
[08:37] <HermanDE> bnD: He may need to do an apt-get update
[08:37] <bnD> you rechecked your sources.list to be sure morphix ?
[08:37] <bnD> they are in universe ;?
[08:37] <morphix> i will retry it again
[08:37] <morphix> 'sec
[08:37] <bnD> HermanDE, could the repo be down as well?
[08:37] <ReDeemer> is it bad to download all of them?
[08:37] <bnD> like the forum etc
[08:37] <bnD> ?
[08:37] <revdev> tracy, go to console and do sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get upgrade
[08:37] <bnD> ntp isnt working either atm
[08:37] <bnD> :/
[08:37] <FlipSt4R> moin
[08:37] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Not necessarily, but it makes things confusing
[08:38] <graham> I've installed libdvdcss and I still can't play DVD's in mplayer or totem... I have tried mutiple dvd's and both of my dvd drives
[08:38] <tracy> : GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[08:38] <tracy> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[08:38] <HermanDE> bnD: Do you use ntp as a server?
[08:38] <tracy> ive ran update twice and get the same error
[08:38] <B1zz> how do you change your leaving message?
[08:38] <redwolf> ReDeemer: It takes alot of space though, and in rare cases can cause conflicts
[08:38] <bnD> i wonder if morphix realizes he has more than one screen to work with..
[08:38] <bnD> HermanDE, to set time in boot
[08:38] <djs_2_6> Hey guys, quick dumb question - Synaptic has some updates for me, specifically new linux images and headers.  I have already installed these a few weeks ago.  Are these the same thing, or do they keep getting updated with the same update names?
[08:38] <revdev> tracy one sec
[08:38] <HermanDE> bnD: I just use ntpdate....
[08:38] <tracy> then upgrade tells me nothing to upgrade. ;)
[08:38] <bnD> HermanDE, its default on boot, grabs time from ntp.ubuntu.yadayada
[08:39] <revdev> tracy: wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg and then apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[08:39] <tracy> revdev, wget* at the commandline?
[08:39] <revdev> tracy that is from this page: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:39] <revdev> yes
[08:40] <bnD> hrm
[08:40] <revdev> and then sorry, apt-get dist-upgrade, not just upgrade
[08:40] <bnD> no the repos are fine
[08:40] <bnD> i wonder what morphix's prob is :/
[08:40] <molotov_> I'm having trouble mounting an old NTFS drive. I've fdisk'd it to 83/linux, but the old files are still on the drive and I can only mount it as read-only and cannot change the permissions.
[08:40] <bnD> molotov_, you cant write to ntfs
[08:41] <djs_2_6> Anyone have any thoughts on my problem?
[08:41] <molotov_> bnd: I know, I'm not trying to
[08:41] <bnD> djs_2_6, not i my friend
[08:41] <bnD> molotov_, ?
[08:41] <molotov_> bnd: I'd rather just wipe it, but I can't :/
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> molotov_: You can't just change the type in fdisk to fix that.  You'd have to actually format the drive a new filesystem, erasing the files.
[08:41] <tracy> is this bad: gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[08:41] <tracy> ?
[08:41] <redwolf> ReDeemer: also, while you are in there, see if any of the linux-restricted-modules are installed
[08:41] <bnD> molotov_, why not? :P
[08:41] <raphink> djs_2_6: same name, diff version
[08:41] <HermanDE> molotov_: Uh...  Are you trying to wipe the drive?
[08:41] <djs_2_6> Also got an error that the updates were not verified, and could be unsafe...
[08:41] <bnD> morphix, sup
[08:41] <revdev> tracy try these steps: http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:41] <HermanDE> molotov_: Then do a mkfs on the drive....
[08:41] <morphix> bnD: still no luck
[08:41] <bnD> morphix, you can do all that without quitting your irc client..
[08:41] <morphix> how?
[08:42] <raphink> djs_2_6: the updates on the kernel were not verified ??
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, pressing alt+f1 through f6
[08:42] <HermanDE> morphix: What are you trying to do?
[08:42] <molotov_> Man, I feel like a lump. I totally forgot to actually FORMAT the drive...um.... I'll be back if I have any questions :D
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, try it out
[08:42] <bnD> HermanDE, morphix isnt able to get xserver-xorg from universe
[08:42] <morphix> :o
[08:42] <morphix> neat
[08:42] <bnD> says pkg not found
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, yes ;D
[08:42] <bnD> morphix, you checked your sources.list?
[08:42] <morphix> yeh
[08:42] <djs_2_6> raphink - that is what it said, and that they were not safe.  I killed synaptic package manager, and now it does not display the error...
[08:42] <bnD> :/
[08:42] <morphix> its uncommented
[08:42] <raphink> djs_2_6: you're talking of updated packages of kernel-image and restricted-modules right?
[08:42] <HermanDE> morphix: Yep bnD knows about that...  :)
[08:42] <bnD> and you once again sudo apt-get update morphix
[08:42] <revdev> tracy: i hope that page helps, i'll brb
[08:42] <bnD> HermanDE, <3 lol
[08:42] <morphix> yeh i did
[08:43] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux image and linux headers
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok
[08:43] <bnD> morphix, did you get any errors after updating?
[08:43] <morphix> nope
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: well you know what these packages rae
[08:43] <morphix> none at all
[08:43] <raphink> are
[08:43] <raphink> djs_2_6: ?
[08:43] <HermanDE> bnD: Just a thought....  Have you tried to create ttys at 9,10,11,12?
[08:43] <lanjelot> is there a way to read again output messages of init scripts after a complete boot ?
[08:43] <bnD> HermanDE, lol i havent
[08:43] <djs_2_6> raphink - yeah, but I would not know how to verify their authenticity...
[08:43] <bnD> HermanDE, in inittab?
[08:43] <bnD> ill try it out
[08:43] <bnD> lol
[08:43] <bnD> brb
[08:44] <HermanDE> bnD: Yep.....
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: these packages should only be gotten from the official servers ( archive.ubuntu.com )
[08:44] <HermanDE> bnD: If I remember...  You can have ctrl-alt-shift-f1....  I think it starts at 13....
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: and if they are from the official servers, you don't have to worry about thier authenticity
[08:44] <morphix> good thing i have my mp3 player.. otherwise i would be bored as
[08:44] <raphink> djs_2_6: yet if you get warnings about authenticity, it might mean there's a pb with the key management with apt-get
[08:44] <HermanDE> morphix: try apt-get install aptitude
[08:45] <morphix> ok
[08:45] <bnD> HermanDE, no luck rofl
[08:45] <bnD> good thinking outside the box tho :D
[08:45] <djs_2_6> I have not changed any settings in Synaptic, and the only reason I knew about them was the little popup on the bottom of the screen...
[08:45] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok
[08:45] <morphix> "aptitude is already the newest package"
[08:45] <HermanDE> bnD: Have you tried ctrl-alt-shift-f1?
[08:45] <lanjelot> is there a way to read again output messages of init scripts after a complete boot ?
[08:45] <raphink> djs_2_6: did you get the warning on other updates?
[08:45] <tracy> revdev, its of no use. still wont install
[08:45] <HermanDE> bnD: Or ctrl-alt-fn-f1
[08:45] <djs_2_6> raphink - no...
[08:45] <bnD> HermanDE, should i add 13 first?
[08:46] <bnD> otherwise, it does nothing
[08:46] <HermanDE> bnD: Hey, I'm guessing here....
[08:46] <djs_2_6> raphink - any other ways to get the updates just to make sure they are safe?
[08:46] <raphink> djs_2_6: well then don't worry. If that happens again we'll see
[08:46] <bnD> HermanDE, ill try adding a getty on 13
[08:46] <bnD> bfb
[08:46] <bnD> brb*
[08:46] <oorah22> anyone know why post new kernal update from synaptic... i would lose gnome-terminal working (says it cannot connect to child process) and why acpi stops working?
[08:46] <raphink> djs_2_6: paste your sources.list in a pastebin I'll tell you if your updates are safe ;)
[08:46] <morphix> so why on earth can't i install x-windows, etc, etc??
[08:46] <Zen> I installed the new ATI drivers from yesterday (the ones in the repo are OLD -OLD-)...now I've no 3D.  Any ideas?
[08:46] <morphix> all i wanted was a totally fresh setup
[08:47] <morphix> with none of the normal desktop junk that comes with normal install
[08:47] <HermanDE> morphix: Did the apt-get command work?
[08:47] <djs_2_6> raphink - where is the sources.list?
[08:47] <raphink> djs_2_6: /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:47] <bnD> lol HermanDE i have so many gettys running
[08:47] <raphink> djs_2_6: copy this file and paste it in to a pastebin (NOT HERE)
[08:47] <bnD> HermanDE, the shift or fn doesnt work :(
[08:48] <B1zz> what are gettys?
[08:48] <HermanDE> bnD: Try ctl-f1
[08:48] <bnD> Zen, using ati or flglrx
[08:48] <HermanDE> BlankC: gettys are very good things.....
[08:48] <bnD> HermanDE, no go :)
[08:48] <djs_2_6> raphink - http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7349
[08:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: haveta reboot?
[08:48] <HermanDE> bnD: Next question is the keymap...  Are you using a funny keymap?
[08:48] <ReDeemer> didnt work
[08:49] <Zen> bnD: not sure what you mean--the 3D part of the ATI drivers is called fglrx
[08:49] <morphix> HermanDE: what apt-get command?
[08:49] <bnD> HermanDE, nope
[08:49] <morphix> aptitude
[08:49] <morphix> ?
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, phase 2
[08:49] <HermanDE> morphix: apt-get install aptitude
[08:49] <ReDeemer> says i need kernel tree
[08:49] <bnD> Zen, are you using the normal ati driver, or did you get the restricted module + fglrx
[08:49] <raphink> ok djs_2_6 that was an erratic stuff, nothing more... your sources are fine and you shoulldn't get authentication problems with them
[08:49] <morphix> HermanDE: it says its installed and already the latest version
[08:49] <raphink> djs_2_6: they are fully trustable
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes, you will need that
[08:49] <HermanDE> morphix: then try aptitude
[08:49] <bnD> morphix, type sudo aptitude, then hit enter
[08:49] <morphix> how do i 'try aptitude'
[08:49] <djs_2_6> raphink - thank you so much.  I saw that error and freaked.  I am a bit of a noob to ubuntu...
[08:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: btw, what package is specifically asking for this?
[08:49] <bnD> morphix, ^
[08:49] <morphix> ok
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: no worries ;)
[08:50] <Zen> bnD: I had been using the fglrx driver.  It is from August though and ATI is really improving as of late...so I downloaded the latest fglrx drivers from ATI's site
[08:50] <HermanDE> morphix: From a console...  as root... type in "aptitude"
[08:50] <graham> !azureus
[08:50] <ubotu> it has been said that azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[08:50] <ReDeemer> the latest nvidia drivers
[08:50] <djs_2_6> raphink - it just did it again!!!
[08:50] <Zen> bnD: They installed but appear to not be running correctly.  No 3D.
[08:50] <bnD> Zen, ah, no idea :(
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: that's why I asked if it did it on other packages
[08:50] <n00b> OKay, with cedega.. what happens if a new game comes out? Do i have to redownload it all over again, or do they update it?
[08:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: which apt package, nvidia-kernel-source, nvidia-glx, etc?
[08:50] <raphink> djs_2_6: does it do it if you try to install new packages?
[08:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: or can you tell?
[08:51] <djs_2_6> raphink - it says "You are about to install software that can't be authenticated!  Doing this could allow a malicious individual to damage or take control of your system."
[08:51] <ReDeemer> NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2
[08:51] <bnD> HermanDE, morphix doesnt know  how to become root ;P
[08:51] <raphink> djs_2_6: try to see if ubuntu-keyring is installed. If not, install it again
[08:51] <djs_2_6> raphink - not that I have seen so far...
[08:51] <tristanmike> The buttons on my cd/dvd trays don't work, is it possible to get them working?
[08:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: oh, I see
[08:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: in that case, the situation is different
[08:51] <ReDeemer> how do you private message btw
[08:52] <MrPockets>   / msg
[08:52] <morphix> err
[08:52] <morphix> wtf
[08:52] <tracy> so is there another way to install kde 3.5? this one just doesnt work
[08:52] <redwolf> ReDeemer: uh, hang on
[08:52] <raphink> bnD: sudo -i
[08:52] <raphink> that's better ;)
[08:52] <bnD> raphink, :D
[08:52] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, just right click the cd icon on th desktop, and select eject
[08:52] <bnD> raphink, oOoh
[08:52] <bnD> <3
[08:52] <raphink> tracy: another way than what ?
[08:52] <bnD> morphix, ?
[08:52] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, that works in Gnome, but I'm Kubuntu right now, and I don't have that option...:(
[08:52] <djs_2_6> raphink - I checked using sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring, and it said the newest version is already installed...
[08:52] <raphink> bnD: sudo su sounds like a dirty thing, while sudo -i is meant to be used ;)
[08:52] <HermanDE> morphix: from a different console try "sudo su root" then type in your password
[08:52] <bnD> morphix, did you do the server install of ubuntu?
[08:53] <joseph> how do I install java plugin?
[08:53] <redwolf> ReDeemer: or do you want a private chat?
[08:53] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, ...but if I could get the buttons to work....
[08:53] <raphink> djs_2_6: what are the packages that cannot be authenticated?
[08:53] <tracy> raphink, the steps at http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[08:53] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, oh then i dunno, ive never used kde, and imnot sure how to get that to work
[08:53] <tracy> my boyfriend told me i wouldnt be able to install the new kde
[08:53] <JoeBlow> tristanmike, it bothers my wife as well
[08:53] <morphix> bnD:  yes.. i got sick of the cluttered normal install of ubuntu
[08:53] <raphink> tracy: and what exactly did not work?
[08:53] <bnD> morphix, ok, same here
[08:54] <bnD> morphix, i just checked, the package IS in universe
[08:54] <bnD> :/
[08:54] <morphix> how do i select the stuff i want??
[08:54] <tristanmike> JoeBlow, I don't might the right click-eject, it's just not an option in KDE as of right this minute ;)
[08:54] <raphink> tracy: did you use sudo with the apt-get commands ?
[08:54] <oorah22> anyone know why starting up gnome-terminal works from an xterm prompt with a sudo call, but not as a regular (non-root) user? fails with a child process error
[08:54] <morphix> just hit enter on it so it puts a / next to it??
[08:54] <tristanmike> it's kinda "mac-ee"
[08:54] <morphix> (in aptitude)
[08:54] <raphink> djs_2_6: still there?
[08:54] <bnD> i havent used aptitude, i use apt-get or synaptic
[08:54] <HermanDE> bnD: morphix :  This is where debian shines....
[08:54] <bnD> HermanDE, :)
[08:54] <tracy> raphink, the actual installing. it tells me: The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[08:54] <tracy>   kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[08:54] <tracy> E: Broken packages
[08:54] <tracy> and yeah, im using sudo
[08:54] <bnD> HermanDE, how does he select packages in aptitude?
[08:54] <raphink> bnD: me too ;)
[08:54] <morphix> i never knew there was aptitude lol
[08:54] <bnD> raphink, server install?
[08:55] <bnD> oh
[08:55] <bnD> i see
[08:55] <bnD> lol
[08:55] <bnD> :x
[08:55] <raphink> hehe
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux-headers-2.6.12-10, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386, linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - linux-headers-2.6.12-10, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386, linux-headers-2.6.12-10-686-smp, linux-image-2.6.12-10-386, linux-image-2.6.12-10-686-smp
[08:55] <HermanDE> morphix: bnD:  Just use / to search  + to add and - to remove
[08:55] <bnD> HermanDE, thanks :)
[08:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok...as I was saying
[08:55] <bnD> HermanDE, thanks for the help, but im going to do a full reinstall
[08:55] <morphix> i can see the whole x11 package
[08:55] <djs_2_6> raphink - it says in the details that the new version for all of this will be 2.6.12-10.26
[08:55] <bnD> morphix, awesome
[08:55] <morphix> but not sure how to choose is
[08:55] <morphix> ok
[08:55] <raphink> djs_2_6: ok give me one minute
[08:55] <bnD> morphix, youll also want xfs
[08:55] <HermanDE> bnD: morphix:  U to upgrade g to get H to help.... I think...:)
[08:55] <bnD> for font support
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: try apt-get -f install
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: then tell me what you get
[08:56] <bnD> HermanDE, <3 ill bb soon
[08:56] <redwolf> ReDeemer: if you want to use nvidia's installer, you must uninstall all packages relating to nvidia
[08:56] <bnD> oh no!
[08:56] <tracy> raphink, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:56] <bnD> wheres my ubuntu discs
[08:56] <raphink> tracy: no error message?
[08:56] <morphix> ok its downloading and installing :)
[08:56] <HermanDE> bnD: Just try a reinstall of X.....
[08:56] <morphix> btw.. is there a i686 optimised version of ubuntu?
[08:56] <bnD> HermanDE, yea, true
[08:56] <tracy> raphink, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[08:56] <tracy>  is all i get
[08:57] <HermanDE> bnD: check out aptitude...   It is very nice....
[08:57] <bnD> morphix, get 'linux-image-686' i believe
[08:57] <HermanDE> bnD: Think of synaptic as a console utility....
[08:57] <bnD> HermanDE, ill check it out right now, brb
[08:57] <morphix> yeh apititude is like. neat lol
[08:57] <redwolf> ReDeemer: This means nvidia-kernel packages, nvidia-glx packages, and if they contain the nvidia drives, the linux-resitricted-modules packages
[08:57] <raphink> tracy: ok
[08:57] <raphink> tracy: now type dpkg -l kdesktop
[08:57] <raphink> and tell me the version number you get in the second column
[08:58] <tracy> No packages found matching kdesktop.
[08:58] <morphix> bnD: how do i get that?? just apt-get it?? or?
[08:58] <bnD> morphix, yes
[08:58] <raphink> tracy: is kde installed on your comp ? ;)
[08:58] <tracy> raphink, no, thats the idea.
[08:58] <bnD> morphix, or look for 686 in aptitude
[08:58] <raphink> tracy: oooooh
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, how do i remove ALL in aptitude? :)
[08:59] <specialbuddy> anyone know how to get dvd's to work?
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: I thought you wanted to _update_ kde ;)
[08:59] <raphink> upgrade Im ean
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: then type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <tracy> raphink, right. its a fresh install of ubuntu, my boyfriend said i wouldnt be able to install the new 3.5
[08:59] <specialbuddy> I have w32codec and libdvdcss2
[08:59] <HermanDE> bnD: Uh...  You want to remove everything.... or just X?
[08:59] <morphix> there is a very packages that connection timedout.. will it auto try to redownload them??
[08:59] <raphink> that will install kde
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, purge x including conf files
[08:59] <raphink> tracy: you will, just type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[08:59] <HermanDE> bnD: underscore..... _
[08:59] <bnD> HermanDE, thank you
[09:00] <raphink> tracy: that will turn your ubuntu box into a kubuntu one
[09:00] <bnD> HermanDE, aptitude allows broken packages?
[09:00] <raphink> (i.e. kde by default ;))
[09:00] <HermanDE> bnD: It has the same sort of functionallity as synaptic....
[09:00] <djs_2_6> raphink - you find anything for me?
[09:00] <raphink> djs_2_6: I'm still looking :)
[09:01] <raphink> djs_2_6: wait a min ok?
[09:01] <bnD> HermanDE, i see
[09:01] <tracy> raphink, it says: Media change: please insert the disc labeled
[09:01] <tracy>  'Edubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012) i dont have a edubuntu cd
[09:01] <djs_2_6> raphink - sorry, didn't know whether it was a long thing or a short one.  Thank you for your efforts...
[09:01] <raphink> tracy: ic, paste your sources.list in a pastebin please
[09:02] <JoeBlow> i cant get .wmv files to run on ubuntu, anyone got any ideas?
[09:02] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell JoeBlow about w32codecs
[09:02] <tracy> hang on i might have burned one somewhere here
[09:04] <redwolf> JoeBlow: watch ubotu
[09:04] <raphink> tracy: burned what?
[09:04] <redwolf> !codecs
[09:04] <ubotu> Binary only codecs (such as w32codecs) can be downloaded from plf or cipherfunk, see !easysource for details on these repositories
[09:05] <redwolf> !easysource
[09:05] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[09:05] <tracy> raphink, an edubuntu cd, i have and its doing its thing.
[09:05] <raphink> tracy: it's not the best way to do it
[09:05] <redwolf> opps
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: did you actually add the lines to your sources.list ?
[09:06] <tracy> raphink, its not even using the cd, its downloading everything
[09:06] <raphink> as said on the website ?
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: that's what it's meant to be ;)
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: you don't need the CD anymore if you have an internet connection
[09:06] <redwolf> man, looks like ReDeemer went to bed...
[09:06] <raphink> tracy: you should just remove the CD line in your sources.list that would be easier
[09:06] <morphix> btw.. is there any chance of a text mode MSN client? like GAIM.. but only text mode?
[09:06] <raphink> djs_2_6: hold on
[09:07] <redwolf> morphix: GAIM supports MSN
[09:07] <redwolf> morphix: oh oh, nvm, I see what you are saying
[09:08] <robotgeek> morphix: centericq,pork
[09:08] <redwolf> ReDeemer: try it again?
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        because the kernel module was built using the wrong kernel source files.
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        Please make sure you have installed the kernel source files for your
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        kernel and that they are properly configured; on Red Hat Linux systems,
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        for example, be sure you have the 'kernel-source' RPM installed.  If you
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        know the correct kernel source files are installed, you may specify the
[09:09] <ReDeemer>        kernel source path with the '--kernel-source-path' command line option.
[09:09] <ReDeemer> -> Kernel module load error: insmod: error inserting './usr/src/nv/nvidia.ko':
[09:09] <robotgeek> ReDeemer: don't paste in here
[09:09] <ReDeemer>    -1 Invalid module format
[09:10] <ReDeemer> doh
[09:10] <ReDeemer> sorry
[09:10] <tracy> raphink, ok i pasted the thing in the pastebin
[09:10] <raphink> give me the ilnk then tracy
[09:10] <raphink> s/ilnk/link/ sorry
[09:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: eh, everyone get's their one mistake, google for pastebin
[09:10] <raphink> djs_2_6: I don't know how that can be really
[09:10] <tracy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7350
[09:11] <raphink> djs_2_6: trying to check if these packages were properly signed
[09:11] <tracy> its the only cool one there
[09:11] <redwolf> eh, that works too
[09:11] <redwolf> ReDeemer: new plan, use tracy's link
[09:11] <tracy> see? ;)
[09:12] <redwolf> tracy: very nice
[09:12] <raphink> tracy: we can make you a nicer sources.list I think ;)
[09:12] <djs_2_6> raphink - lol.  can I apt-get the updates and be safe, or should I just give up for now and try posting on the ubuntuforums?
[09:12] <tracy> <3
[09:12] <raphink> tracy: first of all, comment the first line (the CD one) by putting a # before the line
[09:12] <raphink> you can update safely don't worry
[09:12] <Zen> Hola
[09:12] <raphink> djs_2_6: you can update safely
[09:12] <specialbuddy> how do I install mplayer for the new version of Firefox?
[09:12] <Zen> a heads-up for people wanting to install ATI's latest drivers:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=78466
[09:12] <raphink> hi Zen
[09:13] <djs_2_6> raphink - then I am gonna hit the apply button...
[09:14] <raphink> djs_2_6: sure do :)
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: well, let's see
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: I think I know what's wrong here...
[09:14] <tracy> raphink, ok is commented.
[09:14] <djs_2_6> raphink - downloading...
[09:14] <specialbuddy> anyone know how to install mplayer
[09:14] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Even though I only got part of that message
[09:14] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:14] <raphink> tracy: i'm making you a nicer sources.list ;)
[09:14] <tracy> raphink, <3 thanks!
[09:14] <borisattva> does anyone here have a functioning Nutiful FTP mounted drive on their desktop?
[09:15] <borisattva> nautilus*
[09:15] <redwolf> ReDeemer: the nvidia package needs something a little...well, special
[09:15] <raphink> tracy: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7351
[09:15] <raphink> tracy: use that, it will be more complete ;)
[09:15] <redwolf> ReDeemer: get to a terminal (window, CLI, something), log in as root or su, and go to the directory /usr/src
[09:16] <tracy> raphink, cool thanks!!
[09:16] <specialbuddy> does anyone here know how I can view videos that are on firefox
[09:16] <raphink> tracy: don't forget to edit as root (using sudo) otherwise you won't be able to save it ;)
[09:16] <djs_2_6> specialbuddy - xine
[09:17] <raphink> tracy: once you're done modifying the sources.list, run sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:17] <raphink> tracy: you should wait till kde is installed before doing all this though, it's safer
[09:17] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: you may also try mplayer + w32codecs + mplayer-mozilla pluhing
[09:17] <specialbuddy> well I'm using the new firefox so I don't know if mplayer will work
[09:17] <redwolf> specialbuddy: try this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:17] <specialbuddy> I have the w32codecs
[09:18] <redwolf> specialbuddy: contains directions for what you want to do
[09:18] <raphink> specialbuddy: install mozilla-mplayer
[09:18] <robotgeek> specialbuddy: i am not sure about the firefox 1.5
[09:18] <redwolf> robotgeek: it works for me
[09:18] <raphink> specialbuddy: that will allow using mplayer embedded in mozilla
[09:18] <specialbuddy> I don't think it works with 1.5 because it won't let me get it
[09:18] <tracy> raphink, NOW you tell me..
[09:18] <tracy> raphink, just kidding id wait anyway
[09:18] <robotgeek> redwolf: hmm, okay. i'll keep that in mind
[09:18] <raphink> tracy: hehe doesnt matter much ;)
[09:18] <redwolf> ReDeemer: are you ok?
[09:19] <raphink> ok I'll bb
[09:21] <MrPockets> how do i set up an FTP on ubuntu
[09:21] <MrPockets> compatable with winXPpro boxes?
[09:21] <ReDeemer> redwolf?
[09:21] <redwolf> ReDeemer: hey
[09:22] <specialbuddy> I can't get mplayer to install
[09:22] <ReDeemer> you getting /msg's ?
[09:22] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes
[09:22] <redwolf> taht one
[09:22] <redwolf> ReDeemer: did you send any more...may not have gotten those
[09:22] <morphix> aah thats much better
[09:23] <HermanDE> morphix: Did you install X?
[09:23] <morphix> yeh
[09:23] <morphix> xfce is working now :)
[09:23] <morphix> only thing is.. i think i liked openbox better lol.
[09:23] <HermanDE> morphix: aptitude is pretty good.....
[09:23] <morphix> yeh
[09:23] <morphix> thanks for telling me that
[09:23] <morphix> its seems to be a useful tool
[09:24] <djs_2_6> raphink - all done...  btw, do you know of any channels other than ##networking for networking info in ubuntu?  I have never been able to talk to anyone on that channel...
[09:24] <specialbuddy> redwolf, how did you get mplayer to work
[09:24] <specialbuddy> ?
[09:24] <HermanDE> morphix: Some of use lived and died by dselect...  aptitude was a natural extension...  These graphic things are just plain weird....
[09:24] <tracy> raphink, you still here?
[09:24] <morphix> lol
[09:24] <redwolf> specialbuddy: I just used mplayer-mozilla, the mplayer package for my proc (k8), and loaded my codecs onto it
[09:24] <morphix> is there  a way to remove the xfce panel?
[09:25] <morphix> or put the xfce panel in the 'taskbar'
[09:25] <northie> Bit of a strange question, but does anyone know where the nvidia driver puts its logo? I'd like to replace it rather than remove it.
[09:25] <specialbuddy> where do I post things
[09:25] <specialbuddy> in postbin?
[09:25] <HermanDE> morphix: Check the control panel....
[09:25] <specialbuddy> !postbin
[09:25] <ubotu> specialbuddy: Are you on ritalin?
[09:25] <specialbuddy> no
[09:26] <specialbuddy> har har har
[09:26] <morphix> control panel..??
[09:26] <HermanDE> specialbuddy: I guess he doesn't like you....
[09:26] <specialbuddy> nope
[09:26] <HermanDE> morphix: Did you load the control panel for xfce?
[09:26] <redwolf> paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:26] <morphix> ..??
[09:26] <morphix> lol
[09:26] <morphix> there is a 'Settings' when i right click
[09:26] <HermanDE> morphix: I'll take that as a "Of course not"
[09:27] <morphix> yeh lol
[09:27] <HermanDE> morphix: Sounds like a good choice...
[09:27] <ReDeemer> ok redwolf..I am at the /usr/src dir
[09:28] <fridge> what does /etc/X11/X normally link to?
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, now list the directory (ls) and look at all the header directories
[09:28] <ReDeemer> yep
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: there should be one for your kernel
[09:28] <ReDeemer> there are many
[09:28] <redwolf> ReDeemer: type uname -r to see what kernel version you need, just to be sure
[09:29] <redwolf> ReDeemer: once you get that, run this command (make sure you are root)
[09:29] <ReDeemer> ok
[09:29] <raphink> tracy, djs_2_6 : back
[09:29] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ln -s linux-headers-version-you-need-directory linux
[09:30] <Shinjan> hi folks
[09:30] <specialbuddy> redwolf, can you look at this http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7352
[09:30] <redwolf> replace the middle placeholder of course
[09:30] <tracy> raphink, its still not installing the new 3.5, gives me the same error  kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[09:30] <tracy> E: Broken packages
[09:30] <djs_2_6> raphink - all done...  btw, do you know of any channels other than ##networking for networking info in ubuntu?  I have never been able to talk to anyone on that channel...
[09:31] <redwolf> specialbuddy: what processor do you have?
[09:31] <raphink> tracy: please paste the whole thing in a pastebin
[09:31] <tracy> i did apt-get dist-upgrade, apt-get upgrade, apt-get update and ate an apple and it still hates me.
[09:31] <raphink> what do you mean exactly djs_2_6 ?
[09:31] <specialbuddy> p4
[09:31] <raphink> tracy: in this order ?
[09:32] <redwolf> specialbuddy: try installing the mplayer-686 package, and give me the output of that if it fails
[09:32] <tracy> raphink, i followed the steps on the website i showed you earlier
[09:32] <raphink> tracy: the right order is apt-get update then apt-get upgrade
[09:32] <ReDeemer> so..like this...
[09:32] <ReDeemer>  ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12.10-amd64-generic linux
[09:32] <raphink> not the other way round
[09:32] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes
[09:32] <djs_2_6> raphink - I have all sorts of network questions regarding servers, managed switches, and networking, and everytime I have gone to ##networking, no one is ever talking, and no one will answer any of my questions...
[09:32] <ReDeemer> done
[09:32] <raphink> tracy: if you run apt-get update only in the end it won't work
[09:33] <raphink> djs_2_6: not sure ##networking is the place, it's not even ubuntu specific
[09:33] <redwolf> ReDeemer: once that is done, make sure you have a /usr/src/linux directory...then you need to make sure that you are ready to install
[09:33] <specialbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7353 redwolf
[09:33] <tracy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7354
[09:33] <tracy> ha! i win!
[09:34] <raphink> tracy: did I ever tell you to install kde ?
[09:34] <raphink> tracy: not that I remember at least ;)
[09:34] <ReDeemer> I see the linux directory...but itis highlighted and not accessible
[09:34] <redwolf> specialbuddy: do the same for the mplayer package now
[09:34] <tracy> raphink, no, i mean i pasted my pastebin after specialbuddy
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - I guess I will keep on my quest...  For now, I think I should go and get my 2.5 hours of sleep...
[09:35] <redwolf> ReDeemer: do you mean it's light blue in the terminal?
[09:35] <raphink> tracy: well I mean I haven't told you to apt-get install kde... ;)
[09:35] <raphink> djs_2_6: hehe ok
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - Thank you for your help tonight.  I really appreciated it.
[09:35] <raphink> gnight then
[09:35] <djs_2_6> raphink - Night
[09:35] <tracy> oh. thats the idea, though, right?
[09:35] <ReDeemer> No its red/highlighted black
[09:35] <tracy> to install it?
[09:35] <raphink> tracy: what you have to install is kubuntu-desktop
[09:35] <tracy> i have installed kubunutu
[09:35] <specialbuddy> redworld, what do you mean by that for doing the same?
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: did it install fine?
[09:36] <tracy> seemed to
[09:36] <redwolf> ReDeemer: uh oh...that middle placeholder you put your thing into...make sure that's an actual directory in /usr/src
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: why then you have kde. period ;)
[09:36] <redwolf> ReDeemer: have a sneaking suspision(sp) that it's not
[09:36] <raphink> tracy: tell me the version of dpkg -l kdesktop
[09:36] <redwolf> specialbuddy: give me the output of it if it fails to install
[09:37] <tracy>  kdesktop            3.5.0-0ubuntu0breez miscellaneous binaries and files for the KDE desktop
[09:37] <ReDeemer> middle placeholder?
[09:37] <raphink> tracy: see ? that's kde 3.5
[09:37] <redwolf> ReDeemer: sorry...the directory name after the ln -s
[09:37] <raphink> tracy: now you just log out, and log in again with KDE as your session
[09:37] <specialbuddy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7355
[09:38] <redwolf> ReDeemer: it should pre-exist in /usr/src
[09:38] <tracy> raphink, oh. ok. i thought i had to install kubuntu first then put the new kde on top. sorry.
[09:38] <ReDeemer> I see
[09:38] <ReDeemer> should i make one?
[09:38] <raphink> tracy: kubuntu is ubuntu with KDE, it includes KDE already
[09:39] <redwolf> ReDeemer: no, it means that you for some reason do not have the linux-headers package for your particular kernel
[09:39] <redwolf> ReDeemer: (unfortunately, that means more apt mayhem...try to find the linux-headers package that matches the version given by uname -r )
[09:39] <ReDeemer> package manager says their installed
[09:40] <redwolf> ReDeemer: odd
[09:40] <fli7e> anyone have experience with cygwin and openssh?
[09:40] <tracy> raphink, ok thanks hon, im gonna try it out. =] 
[09:40] <redwolf> ReDeemer: use that pastebin thing to give me the directory listing of /usr/src, and the output of uname -r
[09:40] <specialbuddy> redwolf, if I can't find mplayer in synaptic then does that mean that I need to do something with the repositories
[09:41] <redwolf> specialbuddy: yes, it probably does
[09:41] <specialbuddy> how do I go about doing that
[09:41] <fli7e> or better yet, anyone know of the irc channels for cygwin/openssh?
[09:41] <redwolf> specialbuddy: do you have the universe and multiverse repositories (if you don't know, probably not)?
[09:42] <specialbuddy> I think I enabled them
[09:43] <bnd> morphix, hows it going?
[09:43] <morphix> good.. i guess
[09:43] <morphix> just trying to work out.. how to remove the xfce panel..
[09:43] <bnd> ah
[09:43] <redwolf> specialbuddy: let's make sure, go here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[09:43] <bnd> so youre in xfce
[09:43] <bnd> good deal
[09:43] <morphix> and add stuff to taskbar instead
[09:43] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512635
[09:44] <morphix> i was using openbox before i formatted
[09:44] <morphix> i might put that back on
[09:44] <specialbuddy> that's for 5.04
[09:44] <bnd> morphix, how much space you using?
[09:44] <specialbuddy> not 5.10
[09:44] <redwolf> ReDeemer: command should have worked the first time...let's try it again
[09:44] <morphix> dunno
[09:44] <redwolf> specialbuddy: it works for 5.10 too
[09:44] <bnd> moritz, df -h
[09:44] <bnd> moritz, or from xchat /exec df -h
[09:44] <bnd> morphix, ^*
[09:44] <bnd> sorry moritz
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: get to /usr/src in a terminal, and type
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: rm linux
[09:45] <ReDeemer> done
[09:45] <SegaLinux> hi
[09:45] <morphix> 1017gb
[09:45] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ln -s linux-headers-2.6.12-10-amd64-generic linux
[09:45] <morphix> err
[09:45] <bnd> morphix, im using 590 mb with firefox,gaim,xchat,abiword, etc
[09:46] <morphix> mb*
[09:46] <morphix> lol
[09:46] <bnd> xchat*
[09:46] <bnd> yada yada
[09:46] <morphix> u mean ram??
[09:46] <PenguinOfDoom> How do I get dapper to generate a brand new xorg.conf?
[09:46] <bnd> morphix, hard drive space
[09:46] <ReDeemer> weird..its there now
[09:46] <morphix> 590mb eh
[09:46] <morphix> how the hell
[09:46] <morphix> lol
[09:46] <redwolf> ReDeemer: probably linux already existed, and we confused it
[09:46] <bnd> PenguinOfDoom, its usually dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:46] <ReDeemer> jah
[09:46] <bnd> morphix, i can tell you my friend lol
[09:46] <ReDeemer> it says its a link...
[09:47] <ReDeemer> anyway
[09:47] <SegaLinux> I'm new user in linux :) and Im trying to learn a little... anyone knows how I can IMPORT mails from PST (Outlolok 2003) to thunderbird?
[09:47] <redwolf> ReDeemer: yes, it is, we are kind of fooling the nvidia installer
[09:47] <SegaLinux> thanks
[09:47] <ReDeemer> gotcha
[09:47] <redwolf> ReDeemer: now make absolutely sure nvidia-* and linux-restricted-modules packages are not on your machine
[09:48] <ReDeemer> let me get rid of them
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: otherwise, unexpected things may happen
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: k
[09:48] <ReDeemer> even the default nv drivers
[09:48] <ReDeemer> ?
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: don't worry about nv
[09:48] <ReDeemer> or anything nvidia
[09:48] <ReDeemer> kk
[09:48] <redwolf> ReDeemer: jsut nvidia
[09:49] <ReDeemer> glx?
[09:49] <redwolf> ReDeemer: scrap it
[09:50] <ReDeemer> nvidia settings?
[09:50] <redwolf> ReDeemer: same thing
[09:50] <Madeye> guys, I have box working as a gateway, all computers in the company getting internet from it, now How can I monitor how much bandwidth each IP is consuming ?
[09:50] <ReDeemer> nvidia-glx: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 2
[09:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: can you pastebin some more details>
[09:51] <meepy> what is the package name for all the windows libs used for compiling?
[09:51] <bur[n] er> Madeye: capture packets and analyze them in a cron job?
[09:51] <ReDeemer> nm...got it the second time around
[09:51] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, phew
[09:51] <Madeye> bur[n] er, isn't there any way to do it live ?
[09:53] <meepy> what is the package name for all the windows libs used for compiling? anyone know, would be a great help, hehe
[09:54] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok, now before you go installing it, one last thing
[09:54] <jacksparrow_> 'hi all
[09:54] <ReDeemer> yes...
[09:54] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Just in case you don't know (if you read the README you will), make sure to change your xorg.conf file...DO NOT LET THE INSTALLER DO THIS FOR YOU
[09:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: it's rather buggy, and messed up my config file
[09:55] <jacksparrow_> I try new ubuntu (6.04), and I want to install mc, but apt-get install mc sad: E: Not find the mc package. Why? How can I install it?
[09:55] <ReDeemer> what kind of things will need to be changed?
[09:55] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ok...hang on a sec, gotta make sure I'm right on this
[09:56] <timfrost> !tell jacksparrow_ -about universe
[09:57] <redwolf> ReDeemer: hang on, browser is freaking out
[09:57] <ReDeemer> kk
[09:57] <lJlolel> i made a launcher application, is there a way to make it open on a certain desktop every time?
[09:57] <fek> moin
[09:58] <timfrost> jacksparrow_, mc is in the universe repository.  See the message from ubotu on enabling that repository
[09:58] <jacksparrow_> timfrost, thx, I see it.
[09:58] <jacksparrow_> :D
[09:59] <redwolf> ok, looks like nvidia is having some server issues with thier docs page, so I'll go by memory
[09:59] <redwolf> ReDeemer: the file to edit is /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[09:59] <ReDeemer> right
[10:00] <redwolf> ReDeemer: don't edit it now, suggest writing this down for after you install the nvidia module
[10:00] <ReDeemer> I know of this file
[10:00] <ReDeemer> just not sure what exactly to edit
[10:00] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ahh, ok
[10:00] <hydroksyde> something to contemplate: If GPL software is free as in speech, what's BSD software? Free as in Enterprise? Free as in Government Handouts?
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: in the Module section, comment out lines with dri or GLCore...make sure the line with glx is intact
[10:01] <molotov_> I'm trying to add my second harddrive to fstab, when I try "mount /mnt/hd2" I get the error that it's the wrong fs type, bad optino or bad superblock on /dev/hdb1, any ideas?
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: and under the Device section, change Driver "nv" or whatever to say Driver "nvidia"
[10:01] <redwolf> ReDeemer: and you're good
[10:02] <ReDeemer> ok...brb'
[10:02] <molotov_> redwolf: what file or area are you talking about right now?
[10:03] <redwolf> redwolf: /etc/X11/xorg.conf editing for nvidia stuff
[10:03] <LetterRip> is the Ubuntu packager/maintainer for Blender around?
[10:03] <molotov_> redwold: thank you
[10:03] <ubuntu> BYE
[10:04] <redwolf> Nooo!  My precious ubuntu...
[10:04] <fli7e> lol
[10:05] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Im anxious...
[10:05] <jacksparrow> timfrost, thank you, it were the good solution.
[10:05] <daschl`irssi> my preciousssss
[10:05] <molotov_> I cannot change my resolution to 1024x768. When I edit the sys -> pref -> screen res. section, when I select 1024, I can only choose 87 htz, which is silly for this old monitor. I know the monitor works in 1024 at 60htz, is there a way I can force or change this?
[10:06] <daschl`irssi> molotov_ edit your xorg.conf accordingly
[10:06] <ReDeemer> whats the copy paste site
[10:06] <redwolf> pastebin?
[10:06] <timfrost> !pastebin
[10:06] <ubotu> extra, extra, read all about it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:07] <lJlolel> molotov_, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:07] <molotov_> daschl: I just browsed through this - the only options I see are modes, which are screen resolutions. Is there some way to add refresh rates?
[10:07] <timfrost> !fixres
[10:07] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:07] <molotov_> timfrost: thanks again.
[10:07] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512649
[10:08] <redwolf> ReDeemer: Thankfully, this is an easy fix
[10:08] <ReDeemer> ok......
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: for the sake of my fingers, your install file shall henceforth be known as ./nvidia
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: run this command instead
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: actually, first, run this in a terminal window, just to make sure
[10:09] <ReDeemer> k
[10:09] <redwolf> ReDeemer: apt-get install gcc-3.4
[10:10] <ReDeemer> hmm
[10:10] <ReDeemer> gcc-3.4 is already the newest version
[10:10] <scanwinder> how do i change the theme's on kde apps when im in gnome?
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: ahh, then you are good to go
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: use this command
[10:10] <redwolf> ReDeemer: CC=gcc-3.4 ./nvidia
[10:11] <redwolf> ReDeemer: when you go to install the driver
[10:11] <ReDeemer> ok...that it?
[10:11] <redwolf> should work
[10:11] <ReDeemer> brb
[10:12] <scanwinder> anyone know how to change the theme of kde apps when im in gnome?
[10:13] <scanwinder> when i change the gnome theme, kde apps dont change
[10:13] <borisattva> i think thats the limitation of dekstop specifc apps
[10:13] <redwolf> scanwinder: it's seprate, run kcontrol
[10:13] <borisattva> dont think you can change then unless you can find a gnome-thatapplicationname
[10:13] <scanwinder> redwolf: ok thanks i suspected i had to do something like that
[10:14] <borisattva> red: you can make kapps look like gnome apps?
[10:14] <bnd> i hate that mplayer-mozilla depends on xmms, i use bmp :/
[10:14] <redwolf> borisattva: you have to have a theme that looks like gnome...other than that, not really
[10:14] <Nameeater> !glxgears
[10:14] <ubotu> glxgears is probably To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[10:14] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/512652
[10:15] <ompaul> bnd, and cosider that bmp is made from xmms :-)
[10:15] <borisattva> oic
[10:15] <specialbuddy> redwolf, I think I solved the problem
[10:15] <specialbuddy> I found a source list online
[10:15] <bnd> ompaul :x
[10:15] <redwolf> specialbuddy: good
[10:15] <borisattva> is anyone here using Nautilus built in FTP for mounting servers to the desktop via an 'ftp' icon?
[10:15] <kawax> !w32codecs
[10:15] <ubotu> rumour has it, w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[10:16] <redwolf> ReDeemer: something wen't wrong, that command didn't take
[10:16] <ReDeemer> #
[10:16] <ReDeemer> -> Performing CC test with CC="cc".
[10:16] <ReDeemer> #
[10:16] <ReDeemer> -> gcc-version-check failed:
[10:16] <ReDeemer> sorry
[10:16] <ReDeemer> damn
[10:16] <bnd> AH!
[10:16] <redwolf> hmm...strange
[10:16] <ReDeemer> dudes...i suck at irc
[10:17] <ReDeemer> let me try agian... cc=gcc-3.4 ./nvidia
[10:17] <ReDeemer> right
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: no
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: case sensetive
[10:17] <ompaul> ReDeemer, I have done the nvidia thing and never got that setup before, did you instruction from the webpage that ubotu mentions below
[10:17] <ompaul> !nvidia
[10:17] <ubotu> it has been said that nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[10:17] <redwolf> ReDeemer: CC=gcc-3.4
[10:17] <ReDeemer> ah
[10:17] <redwolf> that explains it
[10:17] <ReDeemer> k..brb
[10:22] <odat> hi everyone
[10:22] <odat> anyone using dapper?
[10:22] <borisattva> odat: yep
[10:23] <borisattva> is anyone here using Nautilus built in FTP for mounting servers to the desktop via an 'ftp' icon?
[10:24] <redwolf> borisattva: I've done it for sftp...it's kinda broken by my experience
[10:25] <borisattva> thats the strangest thing. i kept reinstalling my breezy copy. every time it worked. then last time i did a reinstalled. added a whole bunch of apps, and now its borked.. i'm trying to find someone witha working setup and see what they have in their gdekstop config for it
[10:25] <redwolf> borisattva: I don't think it's working on either my desktop or my laptop...and both run totally different distros
[10:26] <borisattva> i'm under the impression that some pacakage i installed broke it. but i installed about 30 of them and some removed as well, so cant really back track it.. mydapper install has it broken too, but with a completely different error, so i dont know.
[10:26] <poningru> !ubuntuguide
[10:26] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:26] <ReDeemer> Well....
[10:26] <redwolf> ...
[10:26] <ReDeemer> It worked!!!!
[10:27] <redwolf> Yay!
[10:27] <ReDeemer> dude..thanks alot
[10:27] <borisattva> congrats :)
[10:27] <redwolf> hey, np
[10:27] <ReDeemer> damn
[10:27] <redwolf> (now it's time for sleep)...
[10:27] <ReDeemer> basically it was the compiler huh?
[10:27] <redwolf> well, that was the ending issue
[10:27] <redwolf> gcc-4 is really flaky
[10:27] <ReDeemer> kept telling me I had ver 4
[10:27] <ReDeemer> cool..
[10:27] <redwolf> yeah, it defaults to that
[10:28] <redwolf> well, enjoy your GFX
[10:28] <borisattva> i had the same probelm. in my case i had to do the CC= line in both root and user and only then it worked.
[10:28] <ReDeemer> well..its 3:30 am here...time for bed
[10:28] <redwolf> I'm going to do the same
[10:28] <redwolf> cya
[10:28] <ReDeemer> Ya..just wanted to play some et
[10:28] <ReDeemer> thanks for staying up to hel[
[10:28] <redwolf> lol, and look what you did :p
[10:28] <redwolf> j/k
[10:28] <cello_rasp> need some tar help here: i am trying to backup my home folder through tar... while i am sure my syntax is correct somehow it is not creating anything: http://pastebin.com/512659
[10:28] <ReDeemer> I worked alot with solaris in the military
[10:28] <ReDeemer> alot the same..but alot is different
[10:29] <redwolf> yeah, we have that here (university)
[10:29] <ReDeemer> Unix and linux that is
[10:29] <redwolf> lots of little nuances to keep you awake at night
[10:29] <ReDeemer> ya..
[10:29] <cello_rasp> any idea?
[10:29] <ReDeemer> you have a good one..
[10:29] <redwolf> alright, time for bed, cya later
[10:29] <ReDeemer> i'm sure Ill be idleing here forever now.. gb
[10:29] <ReDeemer> gn
[10:30] <redguy|work> !info winetools
[10:37] <morphix> hmm..
[10:38] <morphix> i have openbox installed
[10:38] <tester> jaja
[10:39] <morphix> but how do i load it from bash?
[10:39] <morphix> startx just starts up xfce
[10:39] <agiofws> hello
[10:41] <Agiofws> what is the  best way to stop processes loading at boot  in ubuntu ?  do i  chmod -x the apps in /etc/init.d  or do i  remove the links in the  rcX.d files ? which is the right way to go ?
[10:43] <redguy|work> Agiofws: the right tool for the job is update-rc.d
[10:43] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read it's manpage
[10:44] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  is it a console based   app ??
[10:44] <Agiofws> or a gui front end ?
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: if you want to do it manually you should delete the links in rcx.d dirs
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: yup
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: it's console
[10:44] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read the manpage
[10:45] <gavcos> morphix, you need to modify your ~/.xinitrc
[10:46] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  if i remove the links  how will i know what to add or remove netx time i want  to change something ?
[10:47] <asdss> what is the command to install .deb package? is that "dpki" ?
[10:47] <Agiofws> redguy|work:  is there a directory  where i can find what loads at  boot in /etc ?
[10:47] <foxiness> i want tool to help me monitor my monthly dial up time, like this http://www.timesheet.gen.nz/freeware.html,am prefer gnome.
[10:48] <foxiness> i can not found something like that on google or gnomefiles.
[10:48] <asdss> what is the command to install .deb package? is that "dpki" ?
[10:49] <ptlo> asdss: dpkg
[10:49] <morphix> gavcos, what do i put??
[10:50] <redguy|work> Agiofws: sec, looking for a doc for you to read
[10:50] <davidwinter> hey guys - can someone tell me where i can download the Ubuntu title font? the link on this page is busted: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuTitle
[10:50] <Agiofws> does boot  go through rc0.d rc1.d rc2.d   at  boot  if you're booting up to runnlevel 2 ?
[10:50] <davidwinter> I need it for a banner today for my computing society - trying to get people to switch to ubuntu from windows
[10:51] <asdss> ic
[10:51] <ptlo> davidwinter: it's in the ttf-ubuntu-title package
[10:51] <asdss> thanks ptlo
[10:51] <davidwinter> ptlo: I'm on a Mac at the moment - is there any chance of a direct download from somewhere?
[10:51] <gavcos> morphix, replace startxfce with openbox
[10:51] <asdss> :D
[10:52] <morphix> there is no startxfce tho
[10:52] <morphix> empty file.
[10:52] <ptlo> davidwinter: assuming you can extract tar.gz on mac: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/t/ttf-ubuntu-title/ttf-ubuntu-title_0.1.orig.tar.gz
[10:53] <Agiofws> does it go through rcS.d ? redguy|work  ?
[10:53] <davidwinter> seems to be problems with the font
[10:53] <davidwinter> no opendata could be found on it, this is reporting
[10:54] <gavcos> morphix, try doing this: cat /etc/X11/xinit/xinitrc > ~/.xinitrc, then edit ~/.xinitrc
[10:54] <redguy|work> Agiofws: AFAIR runlevel S stands for system startup
[10:54] <redguy|work> Agiofws: this is a good read for you: http://www.debianhelp.org/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=3306
[10:54] <triceratops> How may I fill a bugreport against a package fron universe which isn't registered in malone yet?
[10:55] <redguy|work> Agiofws: you will find answers to most if not all of your questions there
[10:55] <pc7_> algun espaol?
[10:56] <jacksparrow> bye
[10:56] <Agiofws> whats tha app again ?
[10:56] <Agiofws> rc-update ?
[10:56] <pc7_> SPAII?
[10:56] <Agiofws> oh  ok ...
[10:56] <Agiofws> got it
[10:56] <redguy|work> Agiofws: update-rc.d
[10:57] <redguy|work> Agiofws: read that article, it seems good
[10:57] <pc7_>  SPANISH  PEOPLE?
[10:57] <Agiofws> i think   gentoo has that tool as well
[10:58] <gavcos> morphix, or just create .xinitrc, with the line "exec `which openbox` in it
[10:58] <osfameron> !es
[10:58] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:58] <pc7_> GRACIAS
[10:58] <maxtnk> hi
[10:58] <pc7_>  ES  QUE ES LA 1  VEZ K EM CONECTO A ESTE CHAT Y NO SE MUXO
[10:59] <gavcos> morphix, e.g. echo "exec `which openbox`" > ~/.xinitrc
[10:59] <jk_work> update automatically installed a new kernel, but it will not boot. Am I the first?
[11:00] <redguy|work> Agiofws: it's called differently in there, but might do the same thing
[11:01] <maxtnk> jk_work: what did?
[11:01] <liable> jk_work: check bugzilla and file one if there isnt one.
[11:02] <maxtnk> why UBUNTU so popular?
[11:04] <dc>   !      ?
[11:04] <redguy|work> maxtnk: because of it's quality and support of course
[11:05] <selinium> maxtnk, Regular six month releases, fantastic software, Great community support!
[11:05] <bimberi> and an irc channel that responds in a timely fashion :P
[11:06] <talios> selinium, but they got rid of the porn :)(
[11:06] <talios> I want my naked south africans back :(
[11:06] <maxtnk> what will update Ubuntu fligh2 on  fligh3?
[11:07] <rob1> they are still there
[11:07] <rob1> you just have to go to effort to get them (not worth it)
[11:07] <JoeBlow> anyone here running FREEBSD? Im curious of the advantages of using it over linux
[11:07] <obontu> hello, how do i create shortcuts/launchers without the arrow icon?
[11:08] <Toma-> JoeBlow, ask in a BSD channel
[11:08] <rob1> JoeBlow, thats probably considered trolling here :)
[11:08] <obontu> i've seen screenshots of people doing it, like creating a shortcut to their home dir without an arrow icon
[11:08] <JoeBlow> Toma- , oh, ok, sorry
[11:08] <maxtnk> what will update Ubuntu fligh2 on  fligh3?
[11:08] <cello_rasp> i can't see any such advantages of running it but there are plenty in developing it :)
[11:09] <selinium> talios, It is still there in the repos!"
[11:10] <obontu> ?
[11:11] <dbzdeath> for some reason alsa sound has just gone choppy and all i did was reboot ... oss works fine though could someone help me please?
[11:12] <maxtnk> that better UBUNTU or FREEBSD?
[11:13] <intelikey> for t in `lsmod | cut -f1` ;do rmmod $t ;done
[11:13] <Agiofws> K20rsync -> ../init.d/rsync <--- do i need this in  boot up ? what does it do ?
[11:13] <selinium> maxtnk, If you are asking quetions about ubuntu I would just install Breezy, the bleeding edge stuff is likly to break right up and until release
[11:13] <rob1> haha
[11:13] <CountDown> Hi.  I would like to have manual control of my network connections, but Ubuntu keeps on placing "auto eth0" and "auto eth1" in my /etc/network/interfaces file.  How do I stop it from doing this?
[11:14] <rob1> freebsd != breezy
[11:14] <zcat[1] > 'sudo apt-get install ubh' then pick a few good newsgroups and you can make all the nude-southafrican wallpaper you could ever want..
[11:14] <selinium> maxtnk, Everyone (almost) in here will say that Ubuntu is the best. in #freebsd they will say freebssd
[11:14] <intelikey> Agiofws it may be assoated with auto-update,  but i don't use that.
[11:14] <Agiofws> ../init.d/acpid , ./init.d/mdadm ../init.d/atd   what do these apps do in boot   do i need them
[11:15] <No1Viking> Anyone that knows what kernel to use with a Pentium M CPU?
[11:15] <intelikey> Agiofws less /etc/init.d/<blah>  and see what they do.
[11:15] <tr00nd> No1Viking: i686
[11:15] <Agiofws> hm...
[11:15] <obontu> how do i create a shortcut to my home dir on my desktop?
[11:15] <No1Viking> tr00nd, thanks!
[11:16] <maxtnk> logistical
[11:16] <intelikey> obontu on the desktop  ln -s $HOME home
[11:16] <maxtnk> selinium: you are a breeze did not update before flight
[11:17] <ldy> Hi, anybody has the experience of useing dual screen on T42?
[11:17] <Agiofws> intelikey:  what does rsync do ?
[11:17] <intelikey> well there is a gui way to do that also obontu, but i don't have X
[11:17] <intelikey> Agiofws  man rsync
[11:17] <CountDown> ldy: I have a T42.  What do you mean by dual screen?
[11:17] <intelikey> if you cant make heads or tails of the man page then ask,  k
[11:18] <ldy> CountDown, For example give presentation to others.
[11:18] <tr00nd> obontu: start gconf-editor, go to apps->nautilus. You can turn on/off icons like home, thrash etc there.
[11:18] <obontu> thanx
[11:19] <A-jay> ok
[11:19] <ldy> then you need connect a presentor with thinkpad.
[11:19] <ldy> CountDown, did me make it clear?
[11:19] <CountDown> ldy: Ah, I've had trouble with that as well.  Last time I checked (when I was still using Hoary), outputting to a projector only worked after rebooting while plugged into the projector, if I remember correctly.
[11:19] <CountDown> ldy: I haven't tried with Breezy yet.
[11:20] <selinium> maxtnk: I am using Breezy, i will not upgrade until the release candidate. :)
[11:20] <CountDown> ldy: Are you using the fglrx driver?
[11:20] <ldy> CountDown, restart xwindows has the same effect with reboot?
[11:20] <CountDown> ldy: I don't know.  I really haven't messed with it that much.
[11:20] <ldy> CountDown, Yes, I am useing fglrx, I see dual screen options in fglrxconfig. So I wonder if someone use it successfully.
[11:21] <tr00nd> CountDown: Are you shure there is no special key on you laptop for turning on and off the external monitor?
[11:21] <CountDown> ldy: I haven't changed my fglrxconfig at all.
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[01:49] (markitoxs/#ubuntu) nbound, but i also had a freeze on FRESH install
[01:49] (nbound/#ubuntu) maybe shotty disc?
[01:49] (markitoxs/#ubuntu) shotty disc?
[01:49] <Stork> if i have an executable (/home/alex/java/jad), how can i make it useable from any dir?
[01:49] (brenner/#ubuntu) peterdautry: as in you can't boot into breezy or xp?
[01:49] (nbound/#ubuntu) try dloading the iso again... and burn to a new disc
[01:49] <markitoxs> nbound, got 2,
[01:49] <markitoxs> an original one
[01:49] <markitoxs> and a copy
[01:49] <markitoxs> and both fail
[01:49] <nbound> both do the same?
[01:50] <nbound> damn
[01:50] <markitoxs> yep
[01:50] <markitoxs> i really can't understan
[01:50] <intelikey> hmmm just did a grub-install /dev/hda      and it installed grub ok  but did not generate a menu.lst      why ?
[01:50] <nbound> u havent swapped any hardware?
[01:50] <markitoxs> nope, it's a laptop
[01:50] <nbound> u can swap cpu and ram on lappy's ;)
[01:50] <markitoxs> now, i'm on 2.6.12-9
[01:51] <markitoxs> but 2.6.12-10 also fails
[01:51] <markitoxs> and 12-15 ?
[01:51] <markitoxs> also
[01:51] <nbound> damn
[01:51] <markitoxs> all of them
[01:51] <peterdautry> well brenner there is a catch
[01:51] <markitoxs> even 686-smp
[01:51] <gavcos> Stork, sudo ln -s /home/alex/java/jad /usr/bin/jad
[01:51] <peterdautry> that machine had a mandrake installation
[01:51] <nbound> smp is for multi cpu configs
[01:51] <Stork> ah, thanks gavcos
[01:51] <markitoxs> someone wrote it could be a X bug
[01:52] <morphix> i added 1280x1024 to xorg.conf but when i do Ctrl + Alt + Plus it doesnt go to that res
[01:52] <markitoxs> from the nvidia driver maybe
[01:52] <peterdautry> which was wiped off, however the user continued to choose "windows" at boot to boot into windows
[01:52] <nbound> markitoxs, yeah but then others would be affected...
[01:52] <brenner> peterdautry: post your menu.lst to a pastebin
[01:52] <markitoxs> but i've been using it for 7 months without any problem
[01:52] <markitoxs> nbound, that's what i though
[01:52] <intelikey> i would have thought that one of the files it would install would be a /boot/grub/menu.lst  but there is no such file,  is this normal ?
[01:52] <peterdautry> how do i get to menu.lst ?
[01:52] <nbound> markitoxs, and i use the nvidia drivers from nvidia no probs :P
[01:52] <markitoxs> yeh, u're right
[01:52] <markitoxs> i'm very annoyed of that
[01:53] <markitoxs> i can't find out the problem
[01:53] <brenner> peterdautry: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:53] <nbound> markitoxs, well if uve changed nothing... and its unstable id balme your hardware
[01:53] <intelikey> peterdautry  is it grub or lilo    i know that mandrake defaulted to lilo
[01:53] <nbound> blame*
[01:53] <markitoxs> nbound, can u wait 10 min?
[01:54] <stamen81> hello
[01:54] <nbound> markitoxs, no worries
[01:54] <markitoxs> brb
[01:54] <nbound> stamen81, ask ur q...
[01:54] <stamen81> Are all of you from the forum of Ubuntu
[01:54] <nbound> nope
[01:55] <stamen81> what is nope
[01:55] <stamen81> I am from Bulgaria
[01:55] <nbound> nope = no
[01:55] <stamen81> ok
[01:55] <stamen81> :)
[01:55] <intelikey> well anyone care to send me your menu.lst  for a template ?
[01:55] <stamen81> and I am a big fan of this distro
[01:55] <nbound> kewl :)
[01:56] <intelikey> not being familear with grub a template would be nice
[01:56] <stamen81> so this the place where I can receive fast answer for my questions
[01:56] <nbound> stamen81, yep
[01:56] <stamen81> super
[01:56] <stamen81> :)
[01:56] <nbound> :P
[01:56] <intelikey> anyone ?
[01:57] <stamen81> OK, I will ask one question now
[01:57] <nbound> ubotu tell intelikey about grub
[01:57] <stamen81> how can I activate AGP support
[01:57] <stamen81> for ATI graphic card
[01:57] <nbound> stamen81, i know theres something to do with that, on the nvidia site, id imagine the same for ATI
[01:57] <stamen81> I had installed the drivers, but I can't activate AGP
[01:58] <nbound> or perhaps bundled with the ATI drivers....
[01:59] <stamen81> I don't want to use their fglrx tool
[01:59] <stamen81> is there other way to activate it
[01:59] <nbound> stamen81, then dload the drivers from ATI and compile them yourself, thats what i do for my nvidia drivers
[02:00] <nbound> and that way u'll have newer drivers... the ones in synaptic are a few months old
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> hiya!
[02:00] <stamen81> I compile them, and I had install them, but now, I can't turn on the TV-out, and AGP support
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, Too!
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@)y,,.\\\\.....*".*@.@yTime. *..*.
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@@)%o==|| >>>..For@A Trip....
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> @@@)y''.////...*.....To The@Moon!...
[02:00] <SteveGibbs> Wowser!
[02:01] <SteveGibbs> how are you all?
[02:01] <stamen81> very good
[02:01] <stamen81> :)
[02:01] <nbound> stamen81, check if a readme came with them.... or check the ATI site for installation instructions
[02:01] <nbound> stamen81, id imagine theyd almost definately have something somewhere about activating AGP
[02:01] <stamen81> They have very poor information, and not so good support for their drivers
[02:02] <nbound> stamen81, well the best cure would be to buy nvidia :P hehe
[02:02] <stamen81> OK, I will look again
[02:02] <stamen81> I don't think so
[02:02] <stamen81> :)
[02:02] <nbound> :o
[02:02] <nbound> :P
[02:02] <stamen81> I had problems with one NVidia
[02:02] <stamen81> with their cooling systems
[02:02] <nbound> ive had problems with every ATI ive had =/
[02:03] <stamen81> the cooler is very rare
[02:03] <nbound> where is everyone tonight..... its so wuiet in here
[02:04] <nbound> quiet*
[02:04] <gimmulf_> Anyone there with mac experience (ppc) ?
[02:04] <gimmulf_> really need some serious help here
[02:04] <nbound> gimmulf_, nope, but ill do my best if u ask anyway
[02:04] <dante_> mmm
[02:05] <nbound> dante_, mmm?
[02:05] <gimmulf_> I just got a powerpc but the one who sold it hasnt removed his user and it asks for that when i try to install a new OS on it, dont know what to do and i can reach the one who sold the computer
[02:05] <dante_> ciauz
[02:05] <gimmulf_> i cant reach...
[02:05] <dante_> emm...I m italian
[02:05] <dante_> italian
[02:05] <gimmulf_> So how do i install a new OS without the password?
[02:05] <nbound> !it
[02:05] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[02:06] <dante_> ah..
[02:06] <nbound> hehe :P
[02:06] <dante_> d'ho
[02:06] <Stork> how can i get all the kde programs to not show up in my Applications menu on gnome?
[02:06] <nbound> gimmulf_, id imagine there would be some hacker tool to get around it... but no i dont know anyway of doin it
[02:07] <nbound> Stork, u could add them yourself?
[02:07] <dante_> .......uff...
[02:07] <jhawk> gimmulf_ pop bios (i.e. clear same with board jumper 'clears bios password')
[02:08] <Stork> nbound, i mean get rid of*
[02:08] <gimmulf_> jhawk:  its just the admin password i think
[02:08] <nbound> Stork, ohhh sorry (its midnight here so im a lil worse for wear) ummm remove them yourself then ;)
[02:08] <dante_> ciauz io vadooo
[02:08] <dante_> eh eh eh
[02:08] <jeremywhiting> hi all, anyone here know exim/dovecot very well?
[02:08] <Stork> oh ok
[02:09] <nbound> jeremywhiting, nope :(
[02:09] <Ng> jeremywhiting: I like to think so :)
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> I have them both installed and it seems like everything is working ok, but /var/mail/username just keeps getting bigger and bigger
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> is that normal
[02:09] <nbound> only if ur getting mail :P
[02:09] <jeremywhiting> it's like my imap server deletes the messages from /home/username/mail but not from /var/mail/username
[02:10] <jeremywhiting> but when I delete messages that file never gets any smaller
[02:10] <gimmulf_> jhawk:  solved it, just held down C when booting up cd and then reset password :)
[02:10] <Ng> jeremywhiting: is exim deliverying to /var/mail or /home/username?
[02:10] <jhawk> cool
[02:10] <jeremywhiting> Ng, how do I tell?
[02:11] <jeremywhiting> I think to /var/mail
[02:11] <Ng> jeremywhiting: in the exim config
[02:11] <jeremywhiting> cause that file get's bigger' then a few minutes later /home/username gets the same messages
[02:12] <Ng> jeremywhiting: hmm, well if you want to put your exim config in a pastebin I can have a look?
[02:12] <munzir> hi sirs, I installed viewcvs in ubuntu but the images don't show, should I add aliases manually or what?
[02:12] <NiklasH_work> hi, anyone getting afs to work on ubuntu?
[02:12] <jeremywhiting> you mean /etc/exim4/update-exim4.conf.conf or /var/lib/exim4/config.autogenerated ?
[02:12] <NiklasH_work> openafs-client, that is
[02:13] <nbound> hmmm anyone know if theres a loki installer for san andreas?
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> Ng?
[02:14] <nbound> as in GTA: San Andreas
[02:14] <Ng> jeremywhiting: probably the update-exim4.conf
[02:14] <jeremywhiting> ok
[02:14] <markitoxs> nbound, i'm back
[02:14] <Ng> jeremywhiting: will you be about in an hour or so? I need to go :/
[02:14] <nbound> markitoxs, ok
[02:14] <markitoxs> but, what kind of hardware problem could it be?
[02:15] <markitoxs> i'don't know how to debug it
[02:15] <markitoxs> to find where the problem is
[02:15] <nbound> markitoxs, i dont know...id assume ram but u said memtest came up clear
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> http://pastebin.ca/37408
[02:15] <markitoxs> i'm gonna do it again..
[02:15] <jeremywhiting> though there's not much there
[02:15] <markitoxs> but it's too strange
[02:15] <markitoxs> i had the system, perfect
[02:15] <markitoxs> and 10 min later, when it's reinstalled, it starts crashing...
[02:16] <nbound> markitoxs, first rule, if its RAMdom, blame the RAM :P
[02:16] <markitoxs> lol
[02:16] <markitoxs> the point is that no one has mencioned the ram in the forums i read
[02:17] <markitoxs> the two directions
[02:17] <Alek35skm> how can I disable status messages in xchat (sorry for this question is not for linux)
[02:17] <markitoxs> were, kernel bug, or x bug
[02:17] <Alek35skm> for example nick has qiit, or nick.. has joined
[02:17] <nbound> well theres not much else that could do it... only shotty power supply, or hard drive gonna fail
[02:18] <nbound> markitoxs, try putting another (non-linux) OS on it...
[02:18] <markitoxs> nbound, uf.... no more win installations pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee
[02:18] <nbound> that would be able to rule out both X and kernel bugs
[02:18] <markitoxs> i'm gonna install mac os x86
[02:18] <markitoxs> lol
[02:18] <nbound> lol
[02:18] <policedarling> guys, I told synaptic to install gcc....... and.... it after installing, I couldn't run gcc!
[02:19] <markitoxs> policedarling, i couldn t neither, use g++
[02:19] <nbound> just as long as its not linux... hell even DOS, just to see if ur system is still unstable
[02:19] <policedarling> same thing?
[02:19] <markitoxs> policedarling, yes,
[02:19] <nbound> policedarling, got build essentials?
[02:19] <policedarling> I don't know.... I just moved in from gentoo
[02:19] <markitoxs> nbound, since i use nv drivers instead of nvidia, seems to be stable..
[02:19] <decaf> policedarling: install "build-essential"
[02:20] <nbound> try searching for build-essential
[02:20] <scanwinder> I just installed and got my ati radeon drivers working(eventually) and now when i go to open xawtv, im gettin some fontset error, i pasted it at http://pastebin.com/512902 can someone please have a look at it for me and if possible tell me what i need to do to resolve the problem?
[02:20] <markitoxs> 3 hours uptime, no errors...
[02:20] <policedarling> oh....
[02:20] <nbound> damn you decaf :P
[02:20] <nbound> markitoxs, well it could be those drivers
[02:20] <markitoxs> but it's so strange...
[02:20] <jeremywhiting> Ng: any ideas?
[02:20] <markitoxs> cuz no one else seems to be affected..
[02:21] <nbound> markitoxs, i get a black screen with those nv drivers :P
[02:21] <jeremywhiting> it's not a big deal I guess, I still get all my email so it's not critical just thought it was strange
[02:21] <markitoxs> lol
[02:21] <matzee> hi - where can I change or disable the screen saver without using the UI?
[02:21] <idefix_> Stamen81 do you speak fluent italian?
[02:21] <markitoxs> nbound, is there a way to get dual view in nv, no, no?
[02:21] <nbound> markitoxs, i doubt it
[02:22] <nbound> markitoxs, did u use the nvidia-glx package or the drivers from nvidia before?
[02:22] <markitoxs> mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
[02:22] <markitoxs> i did nvidia-glx
[02:22] <policedarling> one last question: is there a package for the Linux Kernel sources?
[02:22] <policedarling> i'd like to get frequency scaling working
[02:23] <policedarling> linux-kernel-headers didn't give me anything in /usr/src/linuz
[02:23] <nbound> MAYBE try the actual nvidia drivers... but u gotta compile em yourself, so ur gonna need buil essential
[02:23] <nbound> build*
[02:23] <markitoxs> mmm
[02:23] <nbound> policedarling, try linux-headers
[02:23] <idefix_> normally if you mark all upgrades of an entry it should turn green, no?
[02:24] <nbound> idefix_, yep
[02:24] <nbound> and red for uninstall
[02:24] <j2daosh> where is my "syslog" at?
[02:24] <j2daosh> i did a search for it and i couldn't find this "syslog" that mysql is telling me to look at because it failed to start
[02:24] <nbound> /var/log/syslog ;)
[02:25] <idefix_> so the first time you select something you mark all upgrades, the second time all the installs?
[02:25] <nbound> j2daosh, in future goto ur CLI and type "locate <whatever>"
[02:25] <policedarling> thanks a bunch guys!
[02:25] <decaf> policedarling: there is a package called linux-source. also try make-kpkg script from package "kernel-package".
[02:25] <markitoxs> nbound, thx 4 everytinhg, gotta go to study, i'l give a few days with nv drivers to check if it crashes
[02:25] <j2daosh> locate? thats it?
[02:25] <decaf> policedarling: MUCH better then genkernel
[02:25] <markitoxs> and il try the new nvidia drivers
[02:26] <nbound> markitoxs, no worries mate
[02:26] <markitoxs> nbound, no seriously, i appreciate
[02:26] <nbound> j2daosh, yep
[02:26] <markitoxs> cya mate
[02:26] <radeon_> hey mans...the ubuntu have perl suport?
[02:26] <policedarling> ah..... finally, savage DRI works without hassle in 2.6.15 and Xorg 7.
[02:26] <decaf> radeon_: yes, installed by default
[02:26] <j2daosh> holy crap... this is a huge file... can i set it up in cron to delete it once a week?
[02:26] <j2daosh> is that a smart idea?
[02:26] <radeon_> [decaf] : ok
[02:27] <policedarling> I used to spend hours getting DRI to work back then. Oh well. I'm off to regain those lost hours. Bye.
[02:27] <decaf> policedarling: after I bought an nvidia
[02:27] <policedarling> yeah?
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> j2daosh: install logrotate
[02:27] <policedarling> (laptop... can't change vidcard)
[02:27] <j2daosh> logrotate?\
[02:27] <j2daosh> what does that do?
[02:27] <jeremywhiting> it will do that for you and keep as many backup weeks as you specify (default 4 I think) but compress the backups
[02:28] <jeremywhiting> of all your /var/log files
[02:28] <j2daosh> oh... sweet
[02:28] <nbound> j2daosh, this one might also be it /etc/syslog.conf
[02:28] <Sp4rKy> what's the command to take a screenshot ?
[02:28] <nbound> Sp4rKy, Print Screen key
[02:28] <j2daosh> i already have it installed? maybe by default... how do i call it?
[02:28] <pholie> hi can i browse cvs/svn sources of ubuntu?
[02:29] <j2daosh> no it was the /var/log/syslog one
[02:29] <pholie> i want to see how some packages are built
[02:29] <Sp4rKy> nbound, sorry ?
[02:29] <j2daosh> now i just have to understand what the errors are lol
[02:29] <nbound> Sp4rKy, press the "Print Screen" key
[02:29] <scanwinder> can someone please help me with a fontset problem im having with xawtv?? i put the error on pastebin: http://pastebin.com/512902
[02:29] <scanwinder> i dont know howto fix these fontset problems
[02:29] <scanwinder> i keep getting them
[02:30] <scanwinder> since i installed my ati drivers
[02:30] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i'm over openbox
[02:30] <nbound> Sp4rKy, eh?
[02:30] <chemical_ds> hey folks. when installing ubuntu, i chose to "configure networking at a later time". i have correctly edited /etc/network/interfaces, and recieved an ip address + dns from dhcp server. however i can't access the internet. is there something else i need to configure?
[02:30] <Sp4rKy> nbound, i haven't set key shortcuts
[02:31] <gavcos> Sp4rKy, have you installed ImageMagick?
[02:31] <nbound> Sp4rKy, its default
[02:31] <nbound> Sp4rKy, it will work on ur fresh install of ubuntu
[02:31] <gimmulf_> Anyone with ppc experience would like to ask a question
[02:32] <decaf> chemical_ds: what's the output of route and ifconfig commands?
[02:32] <nbound> chemical_ds, what does it say in System->Admin->Networking?
[02:32] <nbound> is ur ethernet connection active?
[02:32] <chemical_ds> decaf, the ifconfig output is 100% perfect
[02:32] <chemical_ds> nbound, i'm not sure, i dont have any GUI installed
[02:32] <decaf> chemical_ds: route? etc/resolv.conf
[02:33] <nbound> ohhh... =/
[02:33] <rendi> hi all see http://sial.org/howto/perl/life-with-cpan/
[02:33] <chemical_ds> nbound, yup ethernet connection is active with ip address - but i cant ping
[02:33] <rendi> what package i must install for it ?
[02:33] <rendi> it's perl
[02:33] <chemical_ds> decaf, /etc/resolv.conf has correct info
[02:33] <nbound> rendi, perl is installed by default afaik
[02:34] <decaf> chemical_ds: so what's wrong with ping? does it say anything ?  :)
[02:34] <alpha> omg guys
[02:34] <alpha> the scariest shit happened today
[02:34] <alpha> like unbelievable
[02:34] <chemical_ds> decaf, no output whatsoever... it just hangs :(
[02:34] <alpha> i was at the train station right
[02:34] <alpha> ok
[02:34] <nbound> alpha, not as scary as me getting into uni with a UAI of 44.6 :P
[02:34] <rendi> nbound can help me ?
[02:34] <Sp4rKy> doesn't exist a command line to take a screenshot ?
[02:34] <rendi> i wanna us cpan
[02:34] <alpha> lol nbound
[02:34] <idefix_> UAI=Cito-toets?
[02:34] <alpha> seriously though
[02:34] <alpha> this guy got beheaded
[02:34] <alpha> on the tracks
[02:34] <nbound> rendi, unfortunately ive never used cpan...
[02:34] <alpha> at the train station
[02:35] <alpha> fuking scary shit
[02:35] <alpha> his head flew
[02:35] <ilba7r> just wondering if x is broken in dapper? and i know the warning i am just testing it
[02:35] <nbound> alpha, where bouts... i see urt a fellow aussie...
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <nbound> ur*
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <rendi> blah
[02:35] <alpha> nbound, NSW.... Sydney inner west
[02:35] <idefix_> alpha you saw someone who committed suicide by jumping in front of the grain?
[02:35] <idefix_> train*
[02:35] <nbound> alpha, heh im goin to sydney next week =/
[02:35] <alpha> idefix_ yes... he put his head on the tracks and his head got sliced and flew
[02:36] <chemical_ds> alpha, woah... i'm surprised it wasn't on the news or something... i also live in AU
[02:36] <alpha> nbound, lol congrats...  im in year 12 atm...
[02:36] <decaf> chemical_ds: ping the computer's own address
[02:36] <nbound> alpha, just finished year 12 last year :)
[02:36] <alpha> chemical_ds it should have been... it happened at 8pm there were ambos and cops there
[02:36] <alpha> congrats nbound... 44.6 aye...
[02:36] <nbound> lol, yeah i was lazy
[02:36] <nbound> REALLY lazy
[02:37] <kafnetti> !replacetotem
[02:37] <ubotu> hmm... replacetotem is to replace the totem-plugin with mplayer read, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76946
[02:37] <chemical_ds> decaf, i can ping localhost and my LAN interface... anything on the inet does not work tho
[02:37] <alpha> nbound can't blame you... its not a joy to study :P
[02:37] <ghb> Sorry, my network went down so I don't know if and what you answered. So I'll ask again. =)
[02:37] <nbound> alpha, and its not even late round yet... so im not the bottom of the barrel either :S
[02:37] <alpha> lol nbound
[02:37] <ghb> How do you disable modules and programs from being initiated on boot up?
[02:37] <nbound> lol
[02:37] <alpha> what are you going to do at USyd nbound?
[02:38] <brenner> alpha: was it a suicide?
[02:38] <decaf> chemical_ds: can you ping ubuntu from another box? cable ok? remember windows xp's doesn't reply pings
[02:38] <nbound> alpha, im not goin to usyd... im goin to SCU
[02:38] <alpha> SCU, whats that nbound...
[02:38] <mustard5> in a bash script how do you test a value for a null in an if then statement?
[02:38] <alpha> brenner: yeah it was... scary shit though
[02:38] <nbound> Southern Cross Univerity
[02:39] <alpha> nbound: haven't heard of that one... what are you going to study?
[02:39] <nbound> IT
[02:39] <decaf> do we have a list like apt-get.org?
[02:39] <alpha> nbound: lol... u'd have a head start with linux and everything
[02:39] <nbound> alpha, yeah if u know where coffs harbour is thats where ill be studying
[02:39] <alpha> nbound, i think thats north of sydney... closer to QLD?
[02:40] <idefix_> alpha was the guy whose head flew depressed?
[02:40] <brenner> decaf: packages.ubuntu.com maybe?
[02:40] <alpha> idefix_ i'm not sure... i think he was but i just saw him jump and lay his neck on the track
[02:40] <nbound> alpha, yeah a lil over half way if ur travelling north
[02:41] <decaf> brenner: I started to learn packaging. Recompile Dapper's videolan for breezy. we need an unofficial packages list
[02:41] <brenner> decaf: well, there are text listings on that site
[02:42] <tulioanjos> if i download linux-2.6.15.1.tar.gz to the ubuntu, is possible to install with no problems?
[02:42] <chemical_ds> decaf, i cannot ping ubuntu box from another box on lan
[02:42] <brenner> decaf: http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/allpackages.en.txt.gz
[02:42] <decaf> tulioanjos: we can't guarantie, check "kernel-package" docs
[02:43] <nbound> tulioanjos, i cant give u a definate answer... but i think u gotta tweak breezy a lil
[02:43] <tulioanjos> decaf: where?
[02:43] <decaf> tulioanjos: you may want to install kernel-package
[02:43] <lewwy_away> i wonder how many thousands of words have been typed in this chat room...
[02:43] <alpha> Okay guys, where would i be able to find a torrent for cedega... Wine doesnt work for me and the CVS version just buggers up
[02:43] <lewwy_away> thats piracy
[02:43] <lewwy_away> *cough*www.tuxwarez.com*cough*
[02:44] <alpha> OMG THANKX
[02:44] <jago25_98> alpha, naughty boy. amule search
[02:44] <nbound> lewwy_away, lmao
[02:44] <lewwy> he's actually right
[02:44] <lewwy> the CVS ver DOES bugger up
[02:44] <lidia> mmm...
[02:44] <nbound> i just use wine... works well enough
[02:44] <alpha> jago25_98, i've tried that but im waiting for sources :P
[02:44] <lewwy> yeh
[02:45] <lewwy> wine works well
[02:45] <lewwy> cedega is just a cheap hack of wine
[02:45] <gimmulf_> Anyone with PPC experiece? just have a little small question
[02:45] <decaf> chemical_ds: if your cables and hub work, there could be a wrong kernel module problem. I've also got IRQ sharing or wrong IRQ problems with NE2000 ISA cards
[02:45] <hubbadub> actually for some reason i was only able to get dvd decrptyer to work in cedega, not wine or COO
[02:45] <ccooke> lewwy: Cedega adds some nice things. Overall, it's value for money.
[02:45] <lewwy> yeh
[02:45] <lewwy> money...
[02:45] <lewwy> linux is meant to be free
[02:46] <nbound> lewwy, yeah true, the problem with wine is though... it'll run ur programs, but if its gonna screw up itll be for install :(
[02:46] <lewwy> thats wat gets me about linux
[02:46] <lewwy> its free
[02:46] <lewwy> but to play games you have to pay (cedega)
[02:46] <lewwy> to print you have to pay (turboprint for my i560)
[02:46] <brenner> isn't cedega cvs free?
[02:47] <nbound> lewwy, but eventually someone makes an open source version
[02:47] <hubbadub> DONT BLAME LINUX blame the hardware/software developers that dont support linux
[02:47] <decaf> chemical_ds: send your lspci -v output to pastebin, of course if it's a pci card
[02:47] <idefix_> is qcad the best cad program available for linux?
[02:47] <tulioanjos> someone tried 3dmark on cedega?
[02:47] <lewwy> yeh
[02:47] <tulioanjos> is the results good like win?
[02:47] <nbound> thats what i love about open source, if someone makes u pay for it, someone else will try and make a free version
[02:47] <idefix_> lewwy are you from korea?
[02:47] <lewwy> uhh
[02:47] <lewwy> negaive
[02:47] <lewwy> australia
[02:47] <lewwy> why idefix_
[02:47] <tulioanjos> maybe a cracked version lol
[02:48] <nbound> tulioanjos, '05 works on plain WINE just fine
[02:48] <decaf> all we need is 20% of market, guys :). then all hardware vendors will have to support linux
[02:48] <tulioanjos> nbound: and the results ...
[02:48] <idefix_> some korean girl (who lives in Australia) used the word 'yeh'
[02:48] <tulioanjos> better than windows?
[02:48] <thor32> huhu
[02:48] <nbound> tulioanjos, they were roughly equal to my win results...
[02:48] <lewwy> uhh
[02:48] <idefix_> is qcad the best cad program available for linux?
[02:48] <lewwy> thats sorta vague idefix_
[02:48] <tulioanjos> uhn cool :)
[02:48] <tulioanjos> do u have ATi or nVidia ?
[02:48] <brenner> decaf: heh. what %age are we now?
[02:48] <idefix_> so I thought it was a korean word
[02:48] <idefix_> so about qcad..
[02:48] <lewwy> no
[02:48] <lewwy> www.google.com
[02:48] <nbound> nvidia, ati id prsume may not run as well
[02:49] <lewwy> define:yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> ati dont provide drivers
[02:49] <lewwy> or some crap
[02:49] <decaf> brenner: 1% for desktops, I think  :)
[02:49] <lewwy> yeh
[02:49] <lewwy> some sad number
[02:49] <lewwy> even if we got dell and ppl to put linux on prebuilt computers
[02:49] <tulioanjos> ssh: 201.2.36.228 port: 22
[02:49] <lewwy> micro$oft would just pay them off
[02:49] <tulioanjos> someone try to login please
[02:50] <nbound> lewwy, who cares i like the little linux community
[02:50] <decaf> idefix_: I remeber intellicad had a Linux version, it's commercial but much cheaper than autocad
[02:50] <lewwy> yehh
[02:50] <lewwy> atleast theres a small amount of noobs/assholes on the IRC
[02:50] <tulioanjos> :p
[02:50] <lewwy> actually
[02:50] <nbound> lewwy, and ur avg mr and mrs dell... would be stumped as soon as u said "use the terminal"
[02:50] <lewwy> i haven't got negative results on the ubuntu irc
[02:50] <SteveGibbs> Burst n Groan
[02:51] <lewwy> now, #debian...
[02:51] <lewwy> *sigh*
[02:51] <nbound> lol
[02:51] <nbound> anyone in here from OCAU?
[02:51] <chemical_ds> decaf, not sure what pci is, but the output of that command had something about ethernet in it so i here it is: http://pastebin.com/512934
[02:52] <lewwy> quick, someone get dapper beta
[02:52] <tulioanjos> ssh: 201.2.36.228 port: 22 ---- someone try to login please ...
[02:52] <lewwy> latest
[02:52] <lewwy> and send it to me
[02:52] <lewwy> dont have ssh tulioanjos
[02:52] <lewwy> burn it
[02:52] <tulioanjos> lol
[02:52] <lewwy> and mail
[02:52] <lewwy> who lives closest to beenleigh
[02:52] <Nivko> tulioanjos: 201.2.36.228 login and pass?
[02:52] <tulioanjos> just try ...
[02:52] <Nivko> cant connect ;)
[02:52] <tulioanjos> ok thanks
[02:52] <Nivko> forward ports
[02:53] <tulioanjos> it is on vmware, vmware dont accept external connections ...
[02:53] <nbound> lewwy, if theres noone else from brizzy, probly me (NSW nth coast) ;)
[02:53] <lewwy> lol
[02:53] <alpha> guys does any else have another bittorrent site for linux warez? tuxwarez.com is down apparently
[02:53] <lewwy> nbound
[02:53] <lewwy> mail me dapper latest beta
[02:53] <r0bby> bad idea to seek support for dapper right?
[02:53] <schreu> hi, is there a german ubuntu supportchannel?
[02:53] <nbound> lewwy, sif, u mail it to me :D
[02:53] <lewwy> NO U
[02:53] <decaf> chemical_ds: your kernel module is 3c59x
[02:53] <r0bby> lewwy, you can get it yourself
[02:53] <nbound> !de
[02:53] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[02:53] <lewwy> cant
[02:53] <nbound> ;)
[02:53] <kafnetti_> I ma having a small prob. I am trying to "sudo apt-get install mplayer-386" but it finds no packages :/
[02:53] <r0bby> just replace breezy with dapper
[02:53] <lewwy> getting dangerously close to bandwidh cap
[02:54] <r0bby> oh
[02:54] <nbound> kafnetti, just try plain mplayer
[02:54] <kafnetti_> I am trying to follow http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76946
[02:54] <kafnetti_> k
[02:54] <schreu> thanks
[02:54] <lewwy> cmon nbound
[02:54] <nbound> lewwy, sif have bandwidth cap :P
[02:54] <alpha> Anyone know any linux warez sites?...
[02:54] <lewwy> dont ebe sad
[02:54] <lewwy> be*
[02:54] <lewwy> mail it to m
[02:54] <lewwy> me*
[02:54] <chemical_ds> decaf, so i'm supposed to modprobe that? i thought it was supposed to autoload as it's in /etc/modules
[02:54] <r0bby> alpha, not here
[02:54] <kafnetti_> nbound, "Package mplayer is not available, but is referred to by another package."
[02:54] <Goshawk> does somebody know how to add gpg support to reprepro?
[02:55] <Despen> I need some help, When I installed ubuntu I only had a 20 gb Harddisk, Now I got an extra 80 gb harddisk I want to add to the /home but I have saved config and things in my /home/"user". How do I easiest do the transfer without reinstalling ubuntu?
[02:55] <nbound> lewwy, if im too lazy to dload it myself... theres no chance ill send it to you :P
[02:55] <alpha> r0bby, where at? is it against the rules... sorry
[02:55] <nbound> kafnetti, use synaptic :P
[02:55] <lewwy> dont be sad
[02:55] <flujan> hi all
[02:55] <r0bby> alpha, warez in general is illegal
[02:55] <lewwy> cmon Nb
[02:55] <lewwy> nbound*
[02:55] <tulioanjos> i have ubuntu installed on vmware, but is possible to vmware accept external connections? like a ssh server or apache ...
[02:55] <rem_> hey, I have a laptop with win2k and I want to install Ubuntu, but I only have a floppy drive and a wifi card. Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[02:55] <r0bby> just download it off of edonkey
[02:55] <nbound> r0bby, in general... afaik there isnt non-illgeal warez :P
[02:56] <flujan> I'm trying to run xorgconfig in my breezy install ... But I cannot find it... So where did xorgconfig and xorgcfg go? :D
[02:56] <alpha> r0bby, yeah
[02:56] <decaf> chemical_ds: it should be autoloaded. it should work, I'm out of guesses
[02:56] <lewwy> whats against the rules?
[02:56] <r0bby> alpha, and don't ask here
[02:56] <idefix_> so qcad is 2D !!
[02:56] <schreu> does udev completly replaces hotplug?
[02:56] <r0bby> you'll get a one way to ticket to ban land
[02:56] <kafnetti_> nbound, getting creepy, but my synaptic doesn't find mplayer. :D
[02:56] <nbound> aka siberia
[02:56] <Goshawk> flujan, usually on debian-like system we use dpkg-reconfigure
[02:56] <chemical_ds> decaf, ok thanks anyway man... i guess i'll just re-install and let the installer set it up for me... that worked before
[02:56] <r0bby> and then where will you go when ubuntu goes crazy?
[02:56] <Goshawk> flujan, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:56] <decaf> tulioanjos: vmware is well documented. bridged networking is the easiest way
[02:57] <kafnetti_> nbound, it does find one plugin to it tho, so the synaptic is working
[02:57] <flujan> Goshawk: I know, but I still prefer the good and old xorgconfig. :D
[02:57] <alpha> r0bby, ok
[02:57] <r0bby> alpha, edonkey is your best bet
[02:57] <r0bby> just be patient
[02:57] <r0bby> there are free edonkey clients
[02:57] <r0bby> emule is one
[02:57] <flujan> Goshawk: I am using slackware a long time, just now I decide to give other distro a try. :D
[02:57] <schreu> or amule
[02:57] <nbound> kafnetti, mine doesnt find it either... BUT it does find mplayer 386, 586, 686, k6, k7
[02:57] <r0bby> or use bit torrent
[02:57] <lewwy> ack
[02:57] <lewwy> slackware
[02:58] <r0bby> good luck finding a torrent site tho
[02:58] <r0bby> :)
[02:58] <lewwy> i remember trying to use that
[02:58] <alpha> How do i register my nickname with irc?
[02:58] <lewwy> it made me cry
[02:58] <flujan> Goshawk: Aren't they available in ubuntu?
[02:58] <Goshawk> flujan, i can't help you, try doing find xorgconfig or locate it
[02:58] <nbound> anyway im leavin for tonight
[02:58] <r0bby> alpha, rtfm
[02:58] <nbound> night all
[02:58] <lewwy> nbound
[02:58] <alpha> rtfm
[02:58] <schreu> so please, does anyone know if udev completely replaces hotplug
[02:58] <lewwy> get that cd in the post first
[02:58] <nbound> lewwy, ur dreamin mate :P
[02:58] <alpha> night nbound
[02:58] <r0bby> ./ns help register
[02:58] <lewwy> rofl
[02:58] <lewwy> good night
[02:58] <flujan> Goshawk: yeap, I tried it... Without success... Anyone knows if the devel team jut drop it?
[02:58] <nbound> night alpha
[02:58] <tulioanjos> decaf: if i change to bridge, how i can configure ubuntu to acess the internet .. ?
[02:58] <nbound> night lewwy
[02:59] <r0bby> /msg nickserv help register
[02:59] <Goshawk> wait
[02:59] <decaf> tulioanjos: just as your host computer
[02:59] <alpha> thx robby
[02:59] <r0bby> alpha, there you go
[02:59] <Goshawk> flujan, give me a momento
[02:59] <Goshawk> s/momento/moment
[02:59] <r0bby> i have to be nice
[02:59] <Goshawk> i hope it's wrong: apt-file search xorgconfig
[02:59] <Goshawk> kde-guidance: usr/lib/python2.4/site-packages/xorgconfig.py
[02:59] <rem_> hey, I have a laptop with win2k and I want to install Ubuntu, but I only have a floppy drive and a wifi card. Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[03:00] <Goshawk> flujan, it was for yuou
[03:00] <tulioanjos> rem_: maybe through your ethernet card .. ?
[03:00] <guillem101> rem_, AFAIK ubuntu does not allow network install. It is a pity. At least hoary did not had network install
[03:01] <knoppix> hi all
[03:01] <rem_> is there a way to start the install in windows and then continue from disk .. ?
[03:01] <Revellion> yo
[03:01] <Revellion> rem_: theoretically...
[03:01] <Revellion> yes
[03:01] <flujan> Goshawk: but xorgconfig is a package that belongs to the X server. Not a python package... :(
[03:01] <rem_> ..how would that work ... ?
[03:01] <Revellion> but i prefer using a LiveCD if i wish to have a usable enviroment while installing
[03:02] <Revellion> i.e you could partition
[03:02] <Revellion> and perhaps even format the parts
[03:02] <rem_> I have no cd drive ...
[03:02] <tulioanjos> how to configure a bridge modem on ubuntu ?
[03:02] <Revellion> and then make an image using a coLinux or cygwin
[03:02] <Revellion> then dd it to the drive
[03:02] <Revellion> rem_: network install using PXE boot?
[03:02] <Goshawk> flujan, this is why i said: i hope it's wrong
[03:02] <knoppix> i m a neewb and need help i use ubuntu 5.10 and i m getting this messeg when i try to enter Administration->printing
[03:02] <knoppix> ubuntu error the cups server could not be contacted
[03:02] <Goshawk> flujan, google it
[03:02] <decaf> tulioanjos: if you meant bridged mode adsl modem, application named pppoeconf is the solution
[03:03] <flujan> Goshawk: anyway, thanks for the help... I will try to find it
[03:03] <knoppix> error the cups server could not be contacted
[03:03] <knoppix> can any one help me pls
[03:03] <tulioanjos> decaf: yeah thanks
[03:03] <rem_> k thx, ill try to figure out a way ..
[03:03] <balor> Did xorg 7.0 go into Dapper today?
[03:04] <decaf> tulioanjos: I'm not sure, may be it won't work from inside vmware.
[03:04] <tulioanjos> decaf: lol you are sure
[03:04] <tulioanjos> dont work
[03:06] <Revellion> balor: Xorg 7.0 has been in  dapper for quite sometime
[03:06] <idefix_> what's dapper?
[03:06] <decaf> rem_: try pxeboot, I have no ide how it works with wireless connection. also there is some images here: ftp://ftp.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/images/netboot. if your laptop boots from USB
[03:07] <ndlovu> !usb
[03:07] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ndlovu
[03:07] <decaf> !dapper
[03:07] <ubotu> well, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[03:07] <bryanl> i think i'll upgrade my vmware box to dapper now
[03:08] <decaf> bryanl: why?
[03:08] <ndlovu> anyone know how I can get a USB stick working that doesn't mount by itself? (not sure if it's broken or just weird)
[03:08] <bryanl> decaf, why not... i stay on the cutting edge.. and its my vmware test setup.  not my stable dev platform
 mount /dev/sdax /media/usbstick
[03:09] <dooglus> bryanl: now's not a good time
[03:09] <bryanl> schreu, thanks :)
[03:09] <knoppix> why do i get this messeg when i  m trying to print "the cups server could not be contacted" in ubuntu 5.10
[03:09] <dooglus> bryanl: flight 3's ok, but the repositories currently aren't ok
[03:09] <schreu> lol
[03:09] <bryanl> dooglus, oh..
[03:09] <knoppix> can any 1 help?
[03:09] <schreu> meant ndlovu
[03:10] <dooglus> bryanl: when I go to update at the moment I see: The following packages will be REMOVED: libxp6 sisctrl ubuntu-desktop x-common x-window-system-core xfonts-100dpi xfonts-75dpi xfonts-base xfonts-scalable xserver-xorg xubuntu-desktop
[03:10] <idefix_> is growing a beard the same as putting a sticker on your forehead that says: "I don't want a girlfriend"?
[03:10] <cyphase> http://digg.com/security/Feds_want_Google_search_records
[03:10] <bryanl> hahaha
[03:10] <wiso_nid> hi all, anybody know a good documentation on how to access an iSCSI from an ubuntu?
[03:10] <bryanl> dooglus, i will definetely try it now
[03:10] <dooglus> bryanl: looks like the x.org packages are undergoing a reshuffle
[03:10] <bryanl> dooglus, i like to see progress
[03:11] <bryanl> maybe i can submit a patch or two
[03:11] <allison_1984> anyone using skype ?
 anyone using skype ? me
[03:12] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, check with dmesg that it is found by the kernel
[03:12] <ndlovu> schreu: thanks, what's the fs type - usbfs?
[03:12] <setuid> I've installed xfonts-artwiz, and am trying 'xterm -fn lime', but its telling me none of the artwiz fonts are installed. I've rehashed the font path (xset fp rehash), I've tried 'dpkg-reconfigure xfonts-artwiz', and some other things... ,nothing helps. What am I missing here?
[03:12] <allison_1984> schreu: how did you install ? I am having some problems
[03:12] <decaf> schreu: mines startup takes two minutes
[03:12] <schreu> i took the redat version
[03:13] <schreu> and did "alien blalalaskype.rpm"
[03:13] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, probably vfat
[03:13] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work: how would I know (dmesg returns quite some information)
 mine about 1 minute too
[03:14] <NiklasH_work> just plug it in and check the last rows of dmesg
[03:14] <schreu> or do dmesg | grep sda
[03:14] <ndlovu> usb-storage: device found at 2
[03:14] <ndlovu> usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning
[03:14] <ndlovu>   Vendor: USB       Model: Flash Disk        Rev: 2.00
[03:14] <setuid> Anyone?
[03:15] <allison_1984> schreu: I am trying both thru the repos and apt -get methods
[03:15] <NiklasH_work> try again, now you should see which device it is
[03:15] <ndlovu> schreu: dmesg | grep sda gets "Attached scsi removable disk sda at scsi0, channel 0, id 0, lun 0"
[03:15] <NiklasH_work> then just mount /dev/sda /mountpoint
[03:15] <schreu> allison_1984, apt-get install alien
[03:16] <schreu> alien "rpm for redhat fromskypehomepage.rpm"
[03:16] <allison_1984> schreu: didn't you mention that its for redhat
[03:16] <allison_1984> schreu: I am on ubuntu
[03:16] <schreu> dpkg -i newgenerated.deb
[03:16] <schreu> me too allison_1984
[03:17] <ianw_> Where is the proper spot to set the MAC address on my network card?
[03:17] <allison_1984> schreu: normally the deb pckdgs work...but it ain't
[03:17] <schreu> i know
[03:17] <allison_1984> hmmm
[03:17] <allison_1984> schreu: so alien works
[03:17] <setuid> Any font experts around?
[03:17] <schreu> yes alien works with the redhat.rpm not the other ones
[03:18] <allison_1984> schreu: I am not so good with these debs pckdgs and their dependencies install, let alone rpms.... :(
[03:19] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu, got this result, any thoughts? sudo mount -t vfat /dev/sda usbstick/ => "mount: No medium found"
[03:20] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, hmm... do you have any /dev/sda1 that you can try?
[03:20] <schreu> ndlovu, try sda1
[03:20] <idefix_> what do you ask/tell people you contact that just got a baby?
[03:20] <idefix_> sorry for the slightly offtopic remark
[03:20] <ratschnowski> hello, i am using evolution on Ubuntu Breezer. When opening an imap account, just the number of unread mails is shown, not the mails itself. Any idea where to look for the error?
[03:20] <setuid> "Congratulations on your new family member"
[03:20] <schreu> allison_1984, didnt get what u meant
[03:21] <OpsVentus> Hello all, I see since Breezy Wacom drivers are included but the pen still dosn't work, anyone know what the status of the driver is, or where I can find the status?
[03:21] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: "mount: special device /dev/sda1 does not exist
[03:21] <ndlovu> "
[03:21] <NiklasH_work> ianw_, try ifconfig hw ether <your mac>
[03:21] <setuid> How the heck do I get xfonts-artwiz working!?
[03:21] <linish> hello
[03:21] <rem_> hey, I have a laptop with win2k and I want to install Ubuntu, but I only have a floppy drive and a wifi card. Is there a way to make it boot on a floppy or any way to install ubuntu ... ?
[03:22] <schreu> ndlovu, cfdisk /dev/sda and create a partition
[03:22] <rem_> this might work: http://marc.herbert.free.fr/linux/win2linstall.html
[03:22] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, see if you've got any /dev/sg entries sometimes it's there
[03:22] <rem_> :)
[03:22] <allison_1984> schreu: I have never worked with rpms....
[03:22] <linish> hey i need some help regarding my sound confgn
[03:22] <schreu> allison_1984, you don?t need to. alien will generate a .deb for u
[03:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell rem_ about smartboot
[03:22] <jadams> I have two ubuntu boxen on my network, schweeet and lifenik, and I would have assumed I could do ssh schweeet from lifenik and be good...but I can't seem to connect by machine name.  Any idea why?
[03:22] <allison_1984> screu: ok
[03:23] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: no /dev/sg but dmesg says "usb-storage: waiting for device to settle before scanning" when I plug it in
[03:23] <setuid> jadams: dns?
[03:23] <linish> hello
[03:23] <jadams> setuid: bah, I haven't set up DNS since the reinstall...thanks
[03:23] <schreu> maybe broken
[03:23] <linish> can someun help me confg the sound
[03:23] <ndlovu> schreu: cfdisk gives fatal error - cannot open disk drive
[03:24] <schreu> ndlovu, buy a new one
[03:24] <NiklasH_work> ndlovu, yeah, it seems broken
[03:24] <rem_> found this too...but dunno if it would allow to start install from hd ... ?
[03:24] <rem_> http://btmgr.webframe.org/
[03:24] <_jason> rem_: did you read the link ubotu sent you?
[03:24] <rem_> i just saw it now .. thx
[03:24] <ndlovu> NiklasH_work, schreu: thanks for the help, that was my suspicion also...
[03:25] <linish> hello there
[03:25] <rem_> that wont work cze i dont have a cd drive at all on that laptop ..
[03:25] <_jason> rem_: actually, I just read it myself and I don't think it will help you
[03:26] <rem_> Ill try the procedure from the 1rst link ...
[03:26] <idefix_> setuid you mean I should just call them tell them that and the rest will come automatically?
[03:26] <rem_> thx anyway ..
[03:26] <_jason> rem_: I think there is a way to do it over network somewhere on the wiki, would that work?
[03:26] <setuid> idefix_: the rest of "what" will come automatically?
[03:26] <rem_> only if my wifi card is recognized easily I guess ..
[03:26] <idefix_> well, I don't know anything about babies so...
[03:26] <mephis1987> hello there
[03:26] <rem_> easiest would be floppy boot and the install from hd ..
[03:27] <mephis1987> i start learning C++ on ubuntu
[03:27] <rem_> hello world :)
[03:27] <mephis1987> can u give me adice which IDE i shouold use ?
[03:27] <mephis1987> on ubuntu
[03:27] <_jason> rem_: I haven't read the links you past, but you consider this as well: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation/Netboot
[03:27] <rem_> cout << that is .. :D
[03:27] <rem_> k ill have a look thx ..
[03:27] <mephis1987> is dev-c++ ok ?
[03:28] <mtlife> hello, anyone with a bit shorewall / routing experience in here?
[03:28] <_jason> mephis1987: whatever works for you, I like vim
[03:28] <decaf> mephis1987: kdevelop is most widely used. take a look at anjuta if you prefer gnome
[03:28] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: is there a version of dev-C++ for linux?
[03:28] <mephis1987> uhm
[03:28] <idefix_> setuid
[03:28] <rem_> gcc i think..
[03:28] <idefix_> ah never mind
[03:28] <mephis1987> so which on do u recommend ?
[03:28] <gnomefreak> i thought that was a MS only  ide
[03:29] <mephis1987> i think vim is good :D
[03:29] <mephis1987> i like vim
[03:29] <setuid> idefix_: I have no idea what you're talking about, I guess
[03:29] <gnomefreak> mephis1987: vim or emacs i dontt htink any of the IDE's have d
[03:29] <damned|ubuntu> hi all. i've just now installed and updated 6.04, and now my gnome-keyboard-preferences crashes. and when i press "tell developers" also bugs-buddy crashes
[03:29] <decaf> I like vim too, is there a way to set up code-completion on VIM ?
[03:29] <_jason> decaf: #vim
[03:29] <Daremos> Hola
[03:29] <gnomefreak> damned|ubuntu: look for the bug :)
[03:29] <xiaogil> do i need a special package to have my Belkin wifi card working on Breezy ?
[03:30] <decaf> thank you _jason
[03:30] <SirKillalot2> do you know a simple STUN client which can determinate my ip address?
[03:30] <Paul^> hello, i have a problem with my pc; i screwed windows up somehow and now i'm trying to restore the files with ubuntu live. i've mounted my ntfs disks but they are read only, i know it's risky to write ntfs in linux, but how can i make them writable?
[03:32] <Paul89> anyone here that can help me? i'm desperate :/
[03:32] <j2daosh> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7359
[03:32] <j2daosh> can someone explain that? mysql issue
[03:33] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Paul89 about ntfs
[03:34] <dilema> anyone have any clue if there is a synaptics(touchpad) frontend? and anyone know hwy(brand new install) gnome refuses to load?
[03:34] <dilema> I get a brown wallpaper thats it
[03:35] <NiklasH_work> dilema, try removing .gnome2/session, if you have one
[03:35] <dilema> did that
[03:35] <_jason> dilema: what video card?  you can try changing the video driver to "vesa" in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and then get the right drivers for your card
[03:35] <dilema> nuked my home
[03:36] <Paul89> gnomefreak, does that mean it's impossible to write NTFS partitions?
[03:36] <dilema> _jason, na every other DE works fine
[03:36] <dilema> kde/fluxbox/xfce
[03:36] <_jason> dilema: hrmm, you've tried a new user?
[03:36] <dilema> _jason, yup on top of the fact I nuked my home
[03:36] <gnomefreak> Paul89: it is nott advised at all to write to ntfs but didnt that give you a link to help you write to it?
[03:36] <_jason> (I know you deleted home, but I once had to create a new user for a reason unknown to me(
[03:36] <dilema> just to make sure
[03:36] <NiklasH_work> dilema, so you nuked all .gconf* and .gnome* dirs?
[03:37] <dilema> rm -rf /home/dilema/(
[03:37] <dilema> err
[03:37] <Paul89> gnomefreak, it said umm.. i'll look it up
[03:37] <dilema> rm -rf /home/dilema/*
[03:37] <Paul89> gnomefreak: *At this time, NTFS may only be mounted read-only by the kernel. This means information may be read, but no information may be written.
[03:37] <dilema> let me add a diff user
[03:37] <dilema> see if that works
[03:37] <NiklasH_work> dilema, then you might have your .gnome dirs left, i think
[03:37] <dilema> where would they be?
[03:38] <mtlife> anyone with a bit shorewall / routing experience in here who can help me?
[03:38] <dilema> using a diff user does not work either
[03:38] <NiklasH_work> dilema, try just doing rm -rf /home/dilema/.gnome* and rm -rf /home/dilema/.gconf*
[03:38] <gnomefreak> Paul89: i dont have any ntfs partions nor fat but someone changed the bots ouput so i guess that means no :(
[03:38] <[A] ndy80> hi
[03:38] <dilema> oh **it
[03:38] <_jason> dilema: just to test it out, try the vesa driver.  Otherwise, I don't know what else to say
[03:38] <dilema> gnome is loading under a diff user
[03:38] <dilema> wtf
[03:39] <_jason> dilema: heh
[03:39] <NiklasH_work> :)
[03:39] <Paul89> gnomefreak: damn.. ntfs is crap... -.-'
[03:39] <Paul89> gnomefreak, well, thx anyway
[03:39] <dilema> ok thats just retarded
[03:39] <linish> hey........
[03:39] <gnomefreak> Paul89: so is fat :)
[03:39] <gnomefreak> i only have ext3 :)
[03:39] <linish> help me.ma friend
[03:39] <guillem101> !ntfs
[03:39] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[03:39] <_jason> !helpme
[03:39] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[03:39] <dilema> now let me log out of that user, try it again, maybe the initial starting of gnome works but files are gettign writtent incorrectly
[03:40] <Paul89> gnomefreak, i know, but at least the fat system is open, ntfs is still a lot of mumbo jumbo to linux..
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> a little problem with X remoting.... I've a client and a server, from the client i do: ssh -l root -X <SERVERIP>   then once logged I try to start an application, but I get this error: (xchat:4349): Gtk-WARNING **: cannot open display:
[03:40] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, X forwarding as root? Brr....
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> in the sshd_config I enabled forwarding: X11Forwarding yes
[03:40] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: just to test...
[03:41] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Try ssh -Y -l root <SERVER>
[03:41] <linish> sound confg...
[03:41] <linish> default sound card how to change?
[03:41] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:41] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: same error... I tried from normal user too...
[03:42] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:42] <linish> how to change default sound card
[03:42] <_jason> ubotu: tell linish about patience
[03:42] <schreu> linish
[03:42] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Do the server logs say anything?
[03:43] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: the remote PC should be able to connect to my local Xserver... right? How can I check if my Xserver allow remote connections?
[03:43] <linish> someun noticed me
[03:43] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: echo $DISPLAY is blank.... should it contain something?
[03:44] <[A] ndy80> (echo $DISPLAY on the server, once I'm logged...)
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, Just a shot: do you have any more IP numbers than 127.0.0.1 in /etc/hosts?
[03:44] <Ng> [A] ndy80: by default the X server on ubuntu doesn't listen on tcp ports, so remote access won't work without further configuration
[03:44] <schreu> theres a speaker in the top left of your desktop linish  just rightklick and a pick open mixer, than change your  default device
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> for localhost
[03:44] <gnomefreak> linish: have you tried your sound settings in system>prefferences>sound?
[03:44] <[A] ndy80> Ng: ah ok! my pc client is ubuntu... remote server is debian
[03:44] <dooglus> Ng: if you use X forwarding you don't need to have it listening on tcp ports to allow remote access
[03:44] <linish> yeah
[03:44] <NiklasH_work> Ng, that's not valid for X forwarding via ssh
[03:45] <linish> the default card doesn't change there gnome freak
[03:45] <Ng> true, my bad, I didn't scroll back far enough :)
[03:45] <gnomefreak> linish: are you going from an onboard sound card to a pci sound card?
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> :)
[03:45] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I've other ip in my hosts
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, for localhost?
[03:45] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: "echo $DISPLAY" shouldn't be blank, no.  it should be set to something like localhost:10.0
[03:45] <[A] ndy80> no no
[03:45] <NiklasH_work> localhost should only have 127.0.0.1
[03:45] <Fjodor> Should I be suspicious about the gnome system monitor reports a memory usage of 94%/58% cache on amd64 with 1Gb RAM?
[03:46] <NiklasH_work> ok. that screwed stuff up for me once :)
[03:46] <linish> tell u what am i doin....i m changin to linux from windows xp..the speakers the main hurdle..they r not responding..i dont know more than that...
[03:46] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: yes, localhost has only one IP.
[03:47] <FlipSt4R> can someone tell me where can i find the ubuntu source.list for apt
[03:47] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: you asked me if I've other IP in hosts and I told yes, but related to other hosts...
[03:47] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, did you see anything in the remote server logs?
[03:47] <Ng> Fjodor: run "free" in a terminal, the second line of numbers tells you the real figures
[03:47] <daveo> i've forgotten my login username and password for my ubuntu 5.10...does anyone know how i can recover these please
[03:47] <gnomefreak> linish: thats you choice but if you didnt disable the onboard sound card than you wont get new one to be seen
[03:47] <Ng> Fjodor: the kernel will use as much RAM as it can for caches
[03:47] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: in which file do I have to see?
[03:47] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, yeah, i was a bit too quick on the keyboard there... :)
[03:47] <Fjodor> Mem:        963188     911344      51844          0      63864     548948
 thats not true
[03:48] <gnomefreak> schreu: it was here
[03:48] <blue-frog> daveo, reboot in recovery mode and cat /etc/passwd to look for your user, then change your user password
[03:48] <schreu> i use my onboard card for skype and the otherone for everything else
[03:48] <Fjodor> Oki
[03:48] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: now I set the $DISPLAY to localhost:10.0
[03:48] <[A] ndy80> but still doesn't work
[03:48] <gnomefreak> the onboard card needed to be disabled in bios before sound output would go through new pci card
[03:48] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, I think it's either /var/log/messages or /var/log/daemon.log
[03:48] <SteveGibbs> Burst n Groan
[03:48] <alpha> Okay i have a problem with a cedega installation... it won't let me install the i386 version because i have an amd64... how can i get around this?
[03:48] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, too!
[03:48] <schreu> no gnomefreak
[03:49] <Ng> Fjodor: that's the first line of numbers, the one that starts "-/ buffers/cache" will show you the amount of RAM in use by applications and the amount free
[03:49] <_jason> blue-frog: I thought passwords were in /etc/shadow ?
[03:49] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you shouldn't set DISPLAY, that won't work.  but it should be set for you.
[03:49] <Ng> Fjodor: but it said 58% cache, so chances are the second line will show about 400mb in use
[03:49] <SteveGibbs> You Bun, too!
[03:49] <Fjodor> That looks fairer. However, the mouse seems sluggish at times. I thought it might have to do with system load
[03:49] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: who should set the DISPLAY for me?
[03:49] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, could you paste your sshd_config on the remote server, and the ssh_config on the local?
[03:49] <SteveGibbs> RAM the Ubunto!!  I am very satisfied with the Ubuntu!  It is fun too!  Woo hoo!
[03:50] <blue-frog> _jason, he wants to see his forgotten user then he changes the passwd using passwd user
[03:50] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, that's done by ssh (when it works..)
[03:50] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: ssh should set it.  what do you see if you run this?    ssh -X user@host.com 'echo $DISPLAY'
[03:50] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: sure! hust a minute...
[03:50] <_jason> blue-frog: oh ok, I just don't know much about it
[03:50] <gnomefreak> schreu: what do yo mean no? to enable a pci slot sound card the onboard card has to be disabled or the OS is always gonna try to use the onboard card by defaul
[03:50] <gnomefreak> t
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> RAM the Ubunto!!  I am very satisfied with the Ubuntu!  It is fun too!  Woo hoo!  Hot diggity dawg!!!  Somebody acknowledge my msg!!  Thankz!
[03:51] <blue-frog> _jason, passwords are encrypted, looking at them won't solve his problem
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> . . ] .\@|......Don't .+
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> ~%^#<$*../"...Drink ..)
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> .`~}"_&(X:*..& Draw. ._*@^;
[03:51] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: this is the sshd_config on the remote PC: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7360
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> come on!
[03:51] <greg123> hey guys, whats the name of wireless network manager in linux?
[03:51] <schreu> ah know i understand gnomefreak , thats true
[03:51] <SteveGibbs> i want attention!
[03:51] <Fjodor> greg123: wifi-radar?
[03:51] <_jason> blue-frog: you're right, the problem was I didn't know his problem :), although he could probably just copy and paste a known password from another user right?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .........//\\..........
[03:52] <greg123> kwifi?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ........///\\.........
[03:52] <Ng> SteveGibbs: we're here to help people, not lavish the attention-whores ;)
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .......|||..||........
[03:52] <greg123> is it possiable?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .......|||__||........
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Wohoo!A|||...|||A......
[03:52] <Ng> !ops
[03:52] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rowdie||||/\||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ok ng sorry
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ishav|||||_|||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> inga||||||||......
[03:52] <gnomefreak> bye
[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: STOP NOW
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Birth-|||||"|||||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> how do i stop this
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> day!!!||/^^\||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Time4||.||||.||......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rocket||//||\\||......
[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: quit!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> i can't jason!!!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Take-///||\\\......
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Off!/____/||\____\cyfo
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .|..||||..|.
[03:52] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, just to be sure: have you restarted the remote sshd since you changed sshd_config?
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> .@((@%VAVAV%@))@.
[03:52] <_jason> SteveGibbs: quit and come back
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> ~(@(@??)(?V?)(??@)@).~
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> it has to finish running i think
[03:52] <SteveGibbs>  SpaceTravel
[03:52] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: and this is my ssh_config on local machine: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7361
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> Rocks!
[03:52] <SteveGibbs> its stopped now
[03:52] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: what do you see if you run this?    ssh -X user@host.com 'echo $DISPLAY'
[03:52] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I never changed my sshd_config
[03:53] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I see nothing
[03:53] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: oh.  that's not good either.
[03:54] <mtlife> ok can someone help me with a routing issue?
[03:54] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: do you see something wrong in my config files?
[03:55] <Paul89> ok, that didn't work. another question; i have only one cdrom drive and that's the one that the ubuntu live cd is in, can i still burn cds that way?
[03:55] <NiklasH_work> sorry, just a sec
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Paul89,  not sure about the Ubuntu live cd.. but many other live cds have a 'toram' option that lets you run from the cd in a ram drive
[03:55] <Dr_Willis> Paul89,  but you do need quite a bit of ram.
[03:55] <schreu> yes Paul89 if u start your burning aplication and than eject the cd
[03:56] <daveo> looks to have sorted my login problem, thanks guys.  learn something new every day
[03:56] <Paul89> Dr_Willis, i have 768mb
[03:56] <Paul89> schreu, how do i do that? eject wouldn't work
[03:56] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you see nothing at all from the command I asked you to run?  not even a blank line?
[03:57] <schreu> not? sorry thought about knoppix
[03:57] <john_> Hello?
[03:57] <Paul89> ok
[03:57] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, no, they seem fine
[03:57] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: yes, I told you I see nothing--->a blank line I mean
[03:57] <NiklasH_work> weird...
[03:57] <szronik> Is a PIII 600 fast enough to decode DVD?
[03:57] <gnomefreak> brb
[03:57] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me a way of setting the mtu size to 1492 on BOOT for an interface?
[03:57] <linish> anyun any idea abt sound confg>
[03:57] <john_> Is this the ubuntu support channel?
[03:58] <_jason> john_: yep
[03:58] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, maybe you need to have xserver-xorg-common installed on the remote? But I wouldn't think so
[03:58] <john_> Thanks!
[03:58] <NiklasH_work> or whatever it's called
[03:58] <dooglus> NiklasH_work: I don't think it's needed
[03:59] <john_> I know I have asked for this before (and forgot): How do I upgrade to the latest ubuntu release?
[03:59] <Paul89> there was a command option for eject to force eject, even with a locked drive, if i remember correctly. can someone tell me the arguments for that?
[03:59] <dwerf> shabbadabbadoo
[03:59] <john_> Hello dwerf
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have an ssh server running on your local machine?
[04:00] <dwerf> hi
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: consider that xchat package is installed... so I think that xserver is installed too...
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: no
[04:00] <NiklasH_work> john_, perl -pi -e 's/hoary/breezy/g' /etc/apt/sources.list && apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:00] <teroedni> Please: How to debug networkadmin:Im running dapper testin release and get a lock when trying to set up rt2500 usb network device.It completely lock the computer,and i doesnt get any bug-buddy information,since the whole system just crash:/
[04:00] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: should I run it on local machine too?
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have DISPLAY set in the shell on the local machine?
[04:00] <NiklasH_work> john_, but i think you would do better with a clean install
[04:00] <john_> NiklasH_work: Thanks!
[04:00] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: no need.
[04:00] <john_> I'll write it down!
[04:01] <teroedni> where should i lock for bug messages?
[04:01] <teroedni> Thanks for any help on this
[04:01] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: on local I've: :0.0
[04:01] <dwerf> i'm getting a weird error when starting synaptic
[04:01] <dwerf> W: Couldn't stat source package list file: apt-build/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/_var_cache_apt-build_repository_dists_apt-build_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[04:01] <dwerf> what would it mean?
[04:01] <dwerf> is there a non-existing repository listed?
[04:01] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I was going to suggest you try installing the ssh server on your local machine and see if the X forwarding works when you log in to that (local to local)
[04:02] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that would give me more to go on
[04:02] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: just installed :)
[04:02] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: like, run:   ssh -X andy80@localhost 'echo $DISPLAY'
[04:02] <alpha> How do i install the cedega i386 version for an amd64 system?
[04:02] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, does X forwarding work from other remote servers?
[04:03] <dooglus> NiklasH_work: that's what I'm trying to find out with his local server install
[04:03] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: I've no other server to test
[04:03] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: 'localhost' is another server you can test...  it happens not to be remote, but the forwarding works the same
[04:03] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: localhost:10.0
[04:04] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that tells me that the forwarding is working - so your client is OK, and the server is the problem
[04:04] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: this is what I see with echo $DISPLAY on my local machine after a ssh -X andy80@localhost
[04:04] <dilema> how do you set gdm as the default display manager instead of kdm?
[04:04] <NiklasH_work> dilema, dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:04] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: that "ssh -X user@host 'echo $DISPLAY'" command logs in, echoes the display, and logs out again
[04:04] <mephis1987> hello there
[04:05] <stamen81> hi
[04:05] <stamen81> ff
[04:05] <mephis1987> i m trying to figure out sth in the terminal
[04:05] <john_> Niklas_work: Do I run the whole line you gave me in the terminal?
[04:05] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: do I have to login to the remote server and display its $DISPLAY again?
[04:05] <[A] ndy80> ok...
[04:05] <mephis1987> i want to see the usage of command
[04:05] <dooglus> dilema: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm
[04:05] <mephis1987> then i typed man ls
[04:05] <NiklasH_work> john_, I would recommend that you use one command at a time, just to be safe
[04:05] <mephis1987> so it shows the usage of ls
[04:06] <[A] ndy80> andy80@debian:/$ echo $DISPLAY
[04:06] <stamen81> fff
[04:06] <mephis1987> but how can i exit to the terminal again
[04:06] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: still blank line...
[04:06] <john_> Niklas: ok
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> i was thinking when you ssh'ed in to run stuff. you did NOT have to export the display
[04:06] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you're running the "ssh -X ... 'echo $DISPLAY'" as a single command, right?
[04:06] <Dr_Willis> or have it set..
[04:06] <stamen81> a
[04:06] <NiklasH_work> Dr_Willis, you don't, normally. That's his problem... :)
[04:07] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: no sorry... not as a single command... wait...
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> NiklasH_work,  :P
[04:07] <mephis1987> if i typed man ls
[04:07] <dooglus> Dr_Willis: you don't have to set it, but it should be set for you.  it isn't in his case
[04:07] <mephis1987> or whatis ls
[04:07] <mephis1987> i cant exit to terminal
[04:07] <mephis1987> it keep showing the ls usage
[04:07] <mephis1987> how can i ?
[04:07] <Dr_Willis> dooglus,  Hmm.. i though id noticed it not being set but it worked fine anyway.  lol.. Ill test it out here in a little
[04:07] <hikenboot> can anyone tell me a way of setting the mtu size to 1492 on BOOT for an interface?  "man 5 interfaces" provides a method IF you are using static addressing. I am using dynamic addressing thru my provider
[04:08] <Ng> mephis1987: q will quit man
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: ok, now I did: ssh -X root@10.63.11.229 'echo $DISPLAY'
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> still blank line
[04:08] <NiklasH_work> mephis1987, just press 'q'
[04:08] <mephis1987> oh
[04:08] <mephis1987> i see
[04:08] <mephis1987> sorry
[04:08] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: do you have anything in your .bashrc or .bash_profile on the remote machine which could be messing with your DISPLAY?
[04:08] <mephis1987> i m quite new here
[04:08] <stamen81> how can i write here with lighter letters?
[04:08] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I look... just a moment...
[04:08] <bwlang> hikenboot: just put an up ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492 line  in /etc/network/interfaces
[04:08] <Ng> [A] ndy80: is it that you're sshing into the machine as root, but not logged into X as root?
[04:09] <dooglus> stamen81: lighter?  this is IRC, the letters here don't have weights
[04:09] <Ng> no wait, ignore that
[04:09] <tarbazli> hi all
[04:09] <tarbazli> i installed edubuntu
[04:09] <stamen81> j
[04:09] <[A] ndy80> Ng: on local machine I'm logged as "andy80", on remote machine I log with root
[04:09] <tarbazli> i run ltspadmin
[04:09] <stamen81> h
[04:09] <tarbazli> everything lokking well
[04:10] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, didn't it work as a normal user, either?
[04:10] <tarbazli> but xdmcp looking no
[04:10] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: run something like    "grep DISPLAY ~/.* 2>/dev/null"    on the remote host to see if DISPLAY is getting mentioned
[04:10] <tarbazli> how can i install xdmcp
[04:10] <Ng> :o
[04:10] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: from which directory?
[04:10] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, I think it might be that you're trying to run an X app as root. We should try as a normal user first
[04:11] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: it doesn't make any difference
[04:11] <mephis1987> hello , is there sth like remote desktop connection in ubuntu ?
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> Is it possible to move things from one virtual terminal to another, like with workspaces?
[04:11] <dooglus> mephis1987: system>preferences>remote-desktop
[04:11] <ogra> tarbazli, you might come to #edubuntu :)
[04:11] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work: it doesn't work with normal user too...
[04:11] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you use "screen" it is
[04:11] <NiklasH_work> damn...
[04:11] <tarbazli> i try /join edubuntu
[04:11] <john_> Hmmm... Didn't work...
[04:12] <tarbazli> i didnt win
[04:12] <Induane> Where is the default way to set uid
[04:12] <dooglus> tarbazli: you need a # in front of channel names
[04:12] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Ah.  Which I've heard of, but haven't taken the time to learn about yet.
[04:12] <Induane> umask I mean?
[04:12] <ogra> tarbazli, #edubuntu :)
[04:12] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: the output is here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7362
[04:12] <tarbazli> ok a sec
[04:12] <Induane> there isn't a /etc/profiles
[04:12] <Electr0_cYpH3r> (:
[04:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: type "screen" in a virtual terminal.  then do stuff in there.  then go to a different virtual terminal and run "screen -d -r"
[04:12] <afief> What good chess game are out there?
[04:12] <stamen81> irc.freenode.net
[04:12] <mephis1987> oh
[04:12] <NiklasH_work> mephis1987, if you want to connect to a windows server just run rdesktop
[04:12] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: the 'stuff' will jump to the new vt
[04:13] <mephis1987> i see
[04:13] <mephis1987> i did as dooglus said
[04:13] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: How does it know which stuff to get?  (If you were to have multiple screens?)
[04:13] <mephis1987> but i want to connect to other desktop
[04:13] <john_> NiklasH_work: It did not work... Maybe I am doing it wrong. Are there any internetpages that gives exact instructions on this?
[04:13] <mephis1987> not allow them to access mine
[04:13] <NiklasH_work> dooglus, cool, i haven't tried that. I just knew about the -X option
[04:13] <mephis1987> uhm
[04:13] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you had multiple screens it would list them I think
[04:13] <mephis1987> i ll try rdesktop
[04:14] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: each screen can run multiple things - so people generally only run one screen.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> mephis1987: On that same window it tells you the command to connect to another, provided they have a vnc server running.
[04:14] <NiklasH_work> tonyyarusso, you can only connect to screens owned by you
[04:14] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: type control-a c to make a new screen inside screen and control-a control-a to switch screens
[04:14] <Pygi> freaky: ping ping
[04:15] <NiklasH_work> tonyyarusso, and if you have multiple you get a list, then type the number of the screen after the screen -r command
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Wow, that could get confusing.  Useful though.
[04:15] <Ng> Pygi: there isn't anyone in here called freaky ;)
[04:15] <tonyyarusso> NiklasH_work: Not a problem, I'm the only one using this computer!
[04:15] <Pygi> Ng: gnomefreak = freaky :))
[04:15] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: did you see the output?
[04:16] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I found screen very useful at work - if I need to move desks to go work with someone else, I can take all my programs with me instead of having to restart them
[04:16] <_jason> tonyyarusso: ctrl-a ?, will give you a list of commands
[04:16] <Ng> Pygi: unless he has his IRC client set up to highlight "freaky" he won't see you pinging him then ;)
[04:16] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: yes.  there's nothing interesting there.
[04:16] <tonyyarusso> _jason: Thanks for the tip.
[04:16] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I don't know what else to tell you.
[04:16] <Pygi> Ng: gah, yes I know :P
[04:16] <NiklasH_work> agreed: screen is great
[04:16] <Electr0_cYpH3r> :)
[04:16] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: ok, thanks anyway....
[04:16] <NiklasH_work> [A] ndy80, me neither. damn...
[04:17] <[A] ndy80> NiklasH_work, dooglus : thanks anyway :\
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> NiklasH_work, dooglus, _jason: Can the different screens have titles to go with their numbers, so when you get the list it's a little more 'friendly'?
[04:17] <Ng> -T
[04:17] <Ng> I mean -t
[04:18] <Electr0_cYpH3r> :) Dork..
[04:19] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I've never done it, but the man pages mentions ctrl-a A
[04:19] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: I think so.  "man screen"
[04:19] <Ng> tonyyarusso: -t
[04:19] <_jason> tonyyarusso: wait that's window title, there is, yeah what ng said
[04:19] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Sounds good.
[04:19] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: C-a A lets you set the title
[04:20] <Ng> basically screen rocks
[04:21] <lowman62> question: why when I ..sudo apt-get install mplayer do I get Package mplayer is not available blah blah blah??
[04:22] <_jason> ubotu: tell lowman62 about mplayer
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> Anyone in here used centericq (text-only chat client)?  I figured out how to set an aim away message, but I don't know how to view them, and the man/online guide aren't very helpful on the topic.
[04:23] <vk> do anyone know if there is a program like alcohol 120% for debian?
[04:23] <dooglus> vk: "mount -o loop"
[04:23] <ScreaminIke> that's it
[04:24] <ScreaminIke> you just mount it.
[04:24] <vk> dooglous, okay but if i want to rip a cd?
[04:24] <dooglus> vk: what does alcohol 120% do?
[04:24] <ScreaminIke> like... how do you make an image?
[04:24] <dooglus> does alcohol make images?
[04:24] <lowman62> i have uncommented all sources in my /etc/apt/sources.list including the multiverse and blah blah blah...I also did what ubotu said..long before entering this room...any answers to why I cannot configure make make install or sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 586 blah blah blah ??
[04:24] <vk> dooglus, mount .iso and .bin and makes .bin and .img images
[04:24] <afief> vk: the kernel supports iso mounting out of the box, you need to convert other files to iso to mount them AFAIK
[04:25] <dooglus> you make an image with dd if=/dev/whatever of=file.iso
[04:25] <_jason> lowman62: if you are SURE you have multiverse, please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:25] <_jason> lowman62: and you did apt-get update right?
[04:25] <vk> afief, okay, but if i want to make an .iso image of a cd with my holiday pics, how to do that?
[04:25] <lowman62> okay _jason...and yes I did apt-get update first after uncommenting
[04:26] <mikelo> hi i got this problem with mysql
[04:26] <_jason> lowman62: multiverse isn't in dfault sources.list, you have to add it (basically everywhere 'universe' is alone)
[04:26] <mikelo> when i try to connect to my mysql server http://pastebin.com/513047
[04:27] <mikelo> how do i check which sockets are available and how do i assign them to mysql?
[04:27] <lowman62> _jason: oh okay so where i get that info do you know? sure ya do :)
[04:27] <rseeber> hey, i am having a problem with my sound. it was working the other day when  i installed unbuntu, but yesterday it stopped working, i've rebooted, but still no sound. the sound this is set to alsa and it says it's the right device
[04:27] <_jason> lowman62: what info?
[04:28] <vk> tnx, im going to try it now
[04:28] <vk> bye
[04:28] <lowman62> _jason: are we on the same page? the info for the souces.list so I can get on with my day :)
[04:29] <^3nd3r^> list
[04:29] <_jason> lowman62: we're on different pages, I don't know what you mean :)  If you see a line that has universe but not multiverse you just add it, pastebin if you aren't sure
[04:29] <dwerf> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[04:29] <GNULinuxer> where are the logs of the openssh server located?
[04:30] <lowman62> _jason: okay i will pastebin...then we can look at the same page :P
[04:31] <hmp> my computer acts like he is 192.168.1.1, but the ip adr is actually 192.168.4.xx
[04:31] <hmp> 192.168.1.1 is another box
[04:31] <^3nd3r^> do someone knows some #channel of the ubuntu server in spanish please?
[04:32] <_jason> !es
[04:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[04:32] <dooglus> GNULinuxer: /var/log/auth.log
[04:32] <lowman62> _jason: ok just one question about pastebin considering i have never pasted a thing here before...where it says name ..is that your name..my name or whos name?? LOL :P```
[04:32] <dooglus> lowman62: your name - or leave it blank - doesn't matter
[04:32] <_jason> lowman62: what ever you want
[04:33] <^3nd3r^> thanks ;)
[04:33] <lowman62> alrighty...i can deal with that :P```
[04:33] <hmp> why does my computer handle 192.168.1.1 like loopback when my actual ip is 192.168.4.4 ????
[04:33] <hmp> how can i fix that???
[04:33] <dooglus> hmp: what does "handle like loopback" mean to you?
[04:33] <lowman62> thanks dooglus by the way :P``
[04:34] <lowman62> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7363
[04:34] <tonyyarusso> My computer just made the weirdest noise...like a cartoon spring or something.
[04:34] <hmp> f.e. he answers to pings to this ip himself
[04:34] <hmp> but he is 192.168.4.4 for sure
[04:34] <Induane> what config file is used to set the default umask for users?  How can I find it?
[04:35] <hikenboot> If i attempt to manually change it with ifconfig using sudo ifconfig eth0 mtu 1492 I get SIOCSIFMTU: Invalid argument
[04:35] <mwe> Induane: /etc/profile
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> Another question about screen: Can you have the same one open from two different locations at once okay?
[04:35] <_jason> lowman62: add " multiverse" to the end of lines 18,19,34, and 35
[04:36] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: use "screen -x" to connect a 2nd time
[04:36] <lowman62> _jason: thanks man..most appreciated :)
[04:36] <_jason> lowman62: np
[04:36] <jadams> anyone installed trac or mediawiki from the repositories?
[04:37] <Ng> hmp: check "ip addr list" and be sure that .1.1 isn't listed
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Perfect.  Can both be in use, or would one have to be read-only?
[04:37] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: they are both the same
[04:38] <Induane> mwe there is no /etc/profiles file
[04:38] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you can have 2 people editing the same file at the same time with screen -x
[04:38] <Induane> I usually find it there as well
[04:38] <mwe> Induane: /etc/profile
[04:38] <mwe> Induane: not profiles
[04:38] <dooglus> Induane: /etc/profile says "umask 022"
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Sweet.
[04:39] <Induane> sud sudo cat: /etc/profile: No such file or directory
[04:39] <Induane> oh typ
[04:40] <Induane> sudo cat: /etc/profile: No such file or directory
[04:40] <Induane> weird
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: So I can accomplish something like console vnc by having someone running things normally somewhere else in a screen, I use ssh to log into their computer, use screen -x for the second, and we can be working on the same things and seeing what's going on.
[04:40] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: indeed
[04:40] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: you can also be looking at different windows within the same screen
[04:41] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Also good.
[04:41] <Induane> is a umask of 000 needed to set a 777 umask?
[04:41] <pypcjs> hello verybody
[04:41] <dooglus> tonyyarusso: if you "C-a c" to make a new window, the other guy will see the new window in his window list (C-a w) but when you switch to the new window (C-a C-a) he will stay where he is
[04:41] <pypcjs> the talk how use
[04:42] <dooglus> Induane: umask 0 sets a umask of 0.
[04:42] <pypcjs> how use the talk
[04:42] <dooglus> Induane: if you want a mask of 777, use "umask 777"
[04:42] <meinaeiner> i have a question... want to compile and get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lpq
[04:42] <meinaeiner> . any hints ?
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> dooglus: Okay.  (May need to look at this man *a lot*)
[04:42] <dooglus> pypcjs: package 'talkd' is the server and 'talk' is the client
[04:42] <Induane> hmmm for some reason I though umasks were set via a subtraction from 777  - so to do 666 you do a 111, etc... at least on my old suse 8.2 that is how it worked.
[04:42] <Induane> that explains it
[04:42] <Induane> I'll go 777] 
[04:43] <gogogog54> i cant burn dvds, tryed seval different programs, dvdw. was just wondering if there was a good way of getting more information about whats going wrong, like whats the command for writing dvds in termal
[04:43] <jrattner> gogogog54, you tried k3b?
[04:43] <gogogog54> yea
[04:44] <dooglus> Induane: if you want files to be created with global permissions (write for everyone) use "umask 0"
[04:44] <Electr0_cYpH3r> gui is over_raided..
[04:44] <gogogog54> i can give you the error it gives you in gnomebaker
[04:44] <dooglus> maino82: install "libpq-dev"
[04:44] <jrattner> ?
[04:45] <dooglus> Electr0_cYpH3r: you mean "overrated"?
[04:45] <pypcjs> I want to use the talk chatting anyother user
[04:45] <gogogog54> i have set my hard ware up weird so my cd-dvdrw is called hda
[04:45] <jenda> People... I have about a thousand .mp3 files in a directory. They all have decent metadata. Any idea as to how I could automatically create dirs with the "author"/"artist" tag of the files as name and have all the files sorted in these?
[04:45] <dooglus> pypcjs: IRC?  or talk?  or what?
[04:45] <gogogog54> :-[ RESERVE TRACK failed with SK=5h/ASC=30h/ACQ=05h] : Wrong medium type
[04:45] <gogogog54> /dev/hda: "Current Write Speed" is 1.0x1385KBps.
[04:45] <gogogog54> :-[ WRITE@LBA=0h failed with SK=5h/ASC=30h/ACQ=05h] : Wrong medium type
[04:45] <gogogog54> :-( media is not formatted or unsupported.
[04:45] <gogogog54> :-( write failed: Wrong medium type
[04:45] <pypcjs> talk
[04:46] <pypcjs> apt-get install talk
[04:46] <meinaeiner> dooglus: thats it. thx
[04:46] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I got a little progression!
[04:47] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I'm sorry to hear that.  You can get enlargement pills though.
[04:47] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: now it works between my ubuntu and remote debian
[04:47] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: what did you change?
[04:47] <gogogog54> i havwe look about on the fourms but no one seems to have the same problem - could be becuase i am blind
[04:47] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: on local I set xhost +, and on remote I apt-get install xbase-clients
[04:47] <gogogog54> if anyone is listening
[04:48] <mwe> jenda: maybe mp3rename. not sure ...
[04:48] <pypcjs> how use the talk
[04:48] <jenda> hmm
[04:48] <mwe> jenda: it's in universe
[04:48] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: now, I'd like to make this thing works between Cygwin X on win98 and the remote debian
[04:48] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I don't think the xhost + would have changed whether your DISPLAY got forwarded.  in fact, you don't need the xhost +, and it's dangerous
[04:48] <pypcjs> how use the talk
[04:49] <dooglus> pypcjs: you need talkd too
[04:49] <pypcjs> talk username@host
[04:50] <pypcjs> but...
[04:50] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: ok.. then the problem was only the missin xbase-clients?
[04:50] <holycow> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperFlight3  <-- looking good guys
[04:50] <cyphase> holycow, for sure :)
[04:50] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I guess so
[04:51] <pypcjs> root@ubuntu:~# talkd pypcjs
[04:51] <pypcjs> -bash: talkd: command not found
[04:51] <dooglus> pypcjs: talkd is a package.
[04:51] <Papillon> huhu
[04:51] <chicken-man> Hi, can someone help me, I just installed ubuntu (dual booting with XP Pro), and have completed the first bit of the setup, but now when It goes to do the second bit it gets stuck on the hotplug subsystem bit and won't move on no matter what I do ?
[04:53] <pypcjs> I installed the talkd package
[04:53] <pypcjs> how I use the talk
[04:53] <dooglus> pypcjs: there's a manual page for it
[04:53] <dooglus> pypcjs: "man talk"
[04:53] <jrattner> Whats the difference between Xchat and Xchat-gnome?
[04:53] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: then... what could it be the problem using cygwin X? the $DISPLAY is not set... while logging from my ubuntu, DISPLAY is set to localhost:10.0
[04:54] <pypcjs> thank you
[04:54] <holycow> looks like someone redid the xchat ui jrattner
[04:54] <jrattner> ahh i didnt notice at first, my bad : )
[04:54] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: you're running the ssh client on cygwin and the server on debian?
[04:54] <chicken-man> Hi, can someone help me, I just installed ubuntu (dual booting with XP Pro), and have completed the first bit of the setup, but now when It goes to do the second bit it gets stuck on the hotplug subsystem bit and won't move on no matter what I do ?
[04:54] <lowman62> _jason: thanks man..mplayer works now..most appreciated :)
[04:55] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: yes
[04:55] <_jason> lowman62: great
[04:56] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: paste the ssh config from cygwin?
[04:56] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: wait...
[04:56] <chicken-man> Is anyone going to help me, before I got nutters !
[04:56] <chicken-man> go*
[04:57] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: uhm... where is?
[04:58] <john_> How do I get info (version number and so on) about my ubuntu installation?
[04:58] <_jason> john_: lsb_release -a
[04:58] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: I would guess in /etc/ssh/ssh_config - but I didn't use cygwin for a long time (since I escaped from the MS trap)
[04:58] <john_> _jason: That's all? Thanks!
[04:58] <dooglus> john_: cat /etc/lsb-release
[04:58] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: there's no /etc/ssh :) for this reason i asked you
[04:58] <[A] ndy80> :)
[04:59] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: is there a 'locate'?
[04:59] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: or a 'man'?
[04:59] <gogogog54> poor chicken man
[05:00] <chicken-man> yes poor me, now will someone please help me :)
[05:00] <dooglus> jenda: mp3rename looks like it can't move files into directories
[05:00] <john_> I got dooglus: I see there are many ways to do one thing in Ubuntu
[05:00] <dooglus> jenda: did you find a solution yet?
[05:00] <jenda> dooglus: no, not just yet...
[05:00] <dooglus> jenda: I can knock you up a script that will do it if you can wait 5 minutes.
[05:00] <sharpfurniture> hi
[05:01] <sharpfurniture> im having issues with my ubuntu install
[05:01] <john_> I got dooglus? Hmm... I did not mean to say that.
[05:01] <iantec> anyone here using a nforce2 chipset?
[05:01] <sharpfurniture> in any moment my computer runs the risk of freezing
[05:01] <scanwinder> is there a way to get the flash plugin to use alsa other than putting aoss infront of the command to open the webbrowser?because when i start opera with "aoss opera", the flash plugin dosent seem to work - the flash animations dont show up
[05:01] <sharpfurniture> what do i do?
[05:01] <jenda> dooglus: That would be very, very kind of you :), but you don't have to go through the trouble, unless you are really bored :)
[05:01] <dooglus> jenda: it's ok :)
[05:01] <sharpfurniture> it either goes to screen saver and doesnt respond or it goes to a blue screen
[05:01] <dooglus> jenda: I've not done it before, so it'll be a good learning experience for me
[05:02] <chicken-man> In the second part of the install the hotplug subsystem thing stops working !! and I get no more !
[05:02] <jenda> dooglus: OK
[05:02] <jenda> dooglus: Thanks a bunch :)
[05:02] <[A] ndy80> dooglus: I've to go now.... I'll come back later, sorry!
[05:02] <dooglus> [A] ndy80: good luck
[05:02] <[A] ndy80> thanks!
[05:03] <[A] ndy80> :)
[05:03] <sharpfurniture> hello?
[05:03] <sharpfurniture> please help
[05:03] <chicken-man> yes please help me
[05:04] <gogogog54> whats the command line for burning a dvd? please
[05:04] <bipolar> ok, was there a major Xorg packaging shift in dapper overnight or is it just broken?
[05:04] <chicken-man> helloooo, people needing help here !!
[05:04] <john_> Thanks for help
[05:04] <tonyyarusso> Does irssi make a strange cartoony "sproing" sort of sound for some event?  (No idea what's causing it.)
[05:04] <decaf> chicken-man: unfortunately noone has an idea. may be an unsupported usb or pcmcia (laptop cards) device
[05:05] <chicken-man> decaf: is there a way around this
[05:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chicken-man: Next time you reboot, and it freezes at loading hotplug subsystem, hit ctrl-c.
[05:05] <decaf> chicken-man: try disabling or unplugging anything you dont need
[05:05] <tr00nd> Hi! I want to run fsck on /, can I do that if I reboot in singe/recovery-mode?
[05:05] <chicken-man> decaf: I tryed that already I've used ubuntu before
[05:05] <sharpfurniture> whats the package for ati drivers?
[05:06] <chicken-man> decaf: Is there a way I can skip it
[05:06] <decaf> chicken-man: PuMpErNiCkLe's advice is also well. (by the way I hate VIA)
[05:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> sharpfurniture: xorg-driver-fglrx
[05:06] <sharpfurniture> thanks
[05:06] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chicken-man: What I said up there ^^^
[05:06] <chicken-man> decaf: I tryed CTRL+C and +D but they don't work
[05:07] <gmenini> hi, can't execute root commands from gnome
[05:07] <gmenini> gksu says: wrong passowrd :(
[05:07] <joao> #unbunto-pt
[05:07] <chicken-man> decaf: I think the system locks up, still accepts and display keyboard unput though
[05:07] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !root
[05:07] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:07] <tonyyarusso> gmenini: Are you using yours or the root's?  Should be yours for sudo stuff (provided you belong to the admin group).
[05:08] <gmenini> thanks, I'll try
[05:08] <joao> alguem portugues
[05:08] <joao> alguem portugues???
[05:08] <joao> alguem portugues??
[05:08] <bipolar> Are there any dapper devs here that can tell me whats going on with the Xorg packages?
[05:08] <gmenini> tonyarusso: thanks
[05:08] <setuid> Why doesn't Ubuntu allow me to mount secondary hard drives (hdc1 for example) or any SCSI device? It claims to be mounted (it isn't), and won't let me mount it anywhere as root.
[05:08] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me how I can bypass Hotplug Subsystem
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> !pr
[05:08] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: Are you smoking crack?
[05:08] <setuid> Debian never had this problem. It fails under my own kernels as well as the stock kernels.
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> Nope, not that one...
[05:08] <tonyyarusso> !po
[05:09] <ubotu> tonyyarusso: I haven't a clue
[05:09] <midwinter> !pt
[05:09] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:09] <setuid> # mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/foo
[05:09] <setuid> Mountainman: /dev/sda1 already mounted or /tmp/foo busy
[05:09] <gmenini> doesn't work...
[05:09] <tonyyarusso> midwinter: Thank you.
[05:09] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me how I can bypass Hotplug Subsystem
[05:09] <gmenini> Even using my passwd
[05:09] <setuid> damn nick completion
[05:10] <setuid> Anyone?
[05:10] <setuid> The partitions are there, they can be seen, but why can't I mount them manually?
[05:10] <Ng> setuid: is sda1 already mounted somewhere?
[05:10] <setuid> Nope
[05:10] <setuid> mount shows nothing for /dev/sda*
[05:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> setuid: Look in /etc/mtab to see what Ubuntu thinks is happening...
[05:10] <dooglus> jenda: still there?
[05:10] <setuid> I'm not an idiot ;) I've been running Linux daily since about 1993
[05:11] <Ng> setuid: any associated errors in /var/log/syslog?
[05:11] <jenda> dooglus: yes :)
[05:11] <vincenz> Greetings, anyone know a generic way to do proxy swithching easily?
[05:11] <setuid> No errors at all in syslog
[05:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> setuid: ah, good :o
[05:11] <Ng> setuid: I don't know that, do I. Most users here are very green. If you've been running it so long, you fix it ;)
[05:11] <dooglus> jenda: install package "extract", then take a look at my script: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7367
[05:11] <jenda> dooglus: I think Easytag can do what I need, but how do I make it do it... that's a different thing altogether...
[05:11] <vincenz> Basically at work, all my connections have to go through a proxy, which means proxy settings for firefox, for synaptic... changinig stuff in my .ssh/config (ProxyCommand)
[05:11] <jeld> hello all
[05:11] <setuid> Ng: right, that's why I'm here... Ubuntu != normal Linux
[05:11] <jenda> dooglus: OK, thanks
[05:11] <setuid> Things are just broken for no apparent reason
[05:12] <Ng> setuid: it's as much "normal" linux as debian or redhat or anything else.
[05:12] <dilema> is there a certain package in ubuntu that needs to be installed to successfully run ./configure(on any app) without getting a "configure: error c compiler can not create exewcutables"?
[05:12] <dooglus> jenda: I took a quick look at easytag, but it was a GUI program, so I didn't look too closely.  they usually involve clicking each of the 1000 files in turn...
[05:12] <Ng> setuid: perhaps stracing mount will shed some light?
[05:12] <ratschnowski> one question, once i changed the login configuration in /etc/syslog.conf there is a command to be executed to activate that, how was this command again?
[05:12] <setuid> Red Hat is industry-known to be the least Linux-like of all the Linuxes... its so far out in left field.
[05:12] <sharpfurniture> so how exactly do i use the ati drivers
[05:12] <dooglus> dilema: installing "build-essential" will fix that
[05:12] <seroxat> could anyone do me a favor? i need a direct link to a burning program that handles cue/bin files
[05:12] <tonyyarusso> dilema: build-essential
[05:12] <dilema> kk
[05:12] <Ng> setuid: least linux-like? that doesn't make sense, linux is a kernel and there is no "standard" distro
[05:12] <setuid> mount("/dev/hdc1", "/tmp/foo", "hfsplus", MS_POSIXACL|MS_ACTIVE|MS_NOUSER|0xec0000, 0) = -1 EBUSY (Device or resource busy)
[05:13] <setuid> hrm
[05:13] <seroxat> or if theres anyway to format MBR inside linux
[05:13] <setuid> hfsplus?
[05:13] <tonyyarusso> !tell sharpfurniture about ati
[05:13] <sharpfurniture> so how exactly do i use the ati drivers\
[05:13] <sharpfurniture> thanks
[05:13] <setuid> Its an XFS filesystem, not HFS+
[05:13] <Ng> setuid: that could be why, -t :)
[05:13] <setuid> Is this some sort of SELinux thing?
[05:13] <jenda> dooglus: nope, you can make it do that automatically... I just can't find an "execute" button anywhere.... long live scripts and CLI :)
[05:13] <setuid> mount -t xfs fails also
[05:13] <Ng> setuid: nope, HFS+ is a Mac fs
[05:13] <seroxat> is there a way to format the MBR from Linux?
[05:13] <setuid> Ng: right
[05:13] <setuid> # mount -t xfs /dev/hdc1 /tmp/foo
[05:13] <setuid> Mountainman: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /tmp/foo busy
[05:13] <setuid> wtf
[05:13] <dooglus> jenda: I only just hacked that script together.  I don't think it will do any damage, but wouldn't trust it absolutely...
[05:13] <setuid> arg, nick completion
[05:14] <setuid> # mount | grep hd
[05:14] <setuid> /dev/hda1 on / type ext3 (rw,noatime,errors=remount-ro)
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: What do you want to put on it, or do you just want to clear it (for god knows what reason)?
[05:14] <dooglus> jenda: actually, I'm an idiot...  let me fix a bug I just found :)
[05:14] <setuid> so why does it think /dev/hdc1 is mounted?
[05:14] <decaf> seroxat: install-mbr
[05:14] <seroxat> tonyyarusso, clear it
[05:14] <setuid> What a pain in the ass
[05:14] <seroxat> see i need to get rid of grub
[05:14] <jenda> dooglus: OK :)
[05:14] <morphix> without interfering with fluxbox's right click menu.. is there something i can install.. which when i insert a cd/dvd in my dvd drive.. it will show up on desktop.. and also the same for my windows mounted hdds?
[05:14] <seroxat> i installed ubuntu but then deleted the partitions from windows, and now im using knoppix because i cant boot windows
[05:15] <seroxat> ;(
[05:15] <Ng> setuid: any syslog errors that time?
[05:15] <_jason> seroxat: do you have a windows install disk?
[05:15] <Ng> setuid: it seems pretty unusual that it's not putting any errors there, failing mounts usually do ime
[05:15] <glacious> i'm running dapper (forced to), and i think the automatic package upgrader in Gnome killed my X11 install
[05:15] <seroxat> _jason,  no thats the problem
[05:15] <chicken-man> seroxat: reinstall Windows it will install of the MBR
[05:16] <glacious> and apt-get won't fetch it properly.
[05:16] <setuid> Ng: Nada
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: Couldn't you just fix grub from your live session?
[05:16] <seroxat> chicken-man, why the hell would i reinstall it>?
[05:16] <dooglus> jenda: fixed version here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7368
[05:16] <glacious> how would i use apt-get to install the latest version of X?
[05:16] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: Because Windows is dumb and doesn't have a better way to reinstall it's native mbr stuff.
[05:16] <Ng> setuid: tried -v?
[05:16] <chicken-man> seroxat: you want to boot windows, you reinstall it.
[05:16] <_jason> seroxat: are you planning on just ditching ubuntu and sticking with windows?
[05:16] <setuid> Ng: -v to what?
[05:16] <seroxat> tonyyarusso,  IF i had the disc i could have ran fixmbr from the rescue console
[05:17] <setuid> mount has no -v option
[05:17] <Ng> setuid: I'm tempted to suggest you found a bug, because your situation really shouldn't happen
[05:17] <Ng> setuid: yes it does
[05:17] <dooglus> jenda: I would suggest backing up your music directory first - or trying my script on just a small subset of it first.
[05:17] <Ng>        -v     Verbose mode.
[05:17] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: But nobody ships disks anymore.
[05:17] <seroxat> and no i do not have to reinstall windows, all i want to do is format the mbr
[05:17] <dooglus> jenda: you need to edit the first couple of lines to tell it where the music is, and where you want it filed to
[05:17] <setuid> Ng: # mount -v -t xfs /dev/hdc1 /tmp/foo
[05:17] <setuid>  mount: /dev/hdc1 already mounted or /tmp/foo busy
[05:17] <seroxat> im pretty damn shure linux can do such a simple task
[05:17] <bipolar> glacious: your X died? I'm seeing a bunch of packages that apt wants to upgrade, and remove xorg packages in the process. it looks like we're in the middle of a packaging shift.
[05:17] <setuid> seroxat: /sbin/lilo -r
[05:17] <setuid> seroxat: or use dd
[05:17] <chicken-man> seroxat: use boot disk, in command prompt type "fdisk /mbr"
[05:17] <seroxat> the partitions with brub are GONE
[05:17] <seroxat> grub*
[05:18] <setuid> seroxat: dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/hda bs=476 count=1
[05:18] <glacious> bipolar: yes.  it broke =(  and i can't get back into it.
[05:18] <seroxat> chicken-man, i have no boot disk
[05:18] <glacious> apt-get -f install x11-common errors out for me.
[05:18] <test> fffff
[05:18] <seroxat> setuid, what does that command do?
[05:18] <bipolar> glacious: I was asking if any dapper devs were here to comment on whats going on. maybe there is something on the mailing list.
[05:18] <setuid> Ng: Any other ideas? Nothing is showing up in the log, -v doesn't add any more verbosity.
[05:18] <setuid> seroxat: man dd
[05:18] <Ng> seroxat: you can boot a windows 2000/xp install CD and go into the rescue/repair option and run "fixmbr"
[05:18] <dooglus> glacious: dapper's X is in a mess at the moment.  I've not left X for a day or two because I'm pretty sure it wouldn't start up again if I did.
[05:18] <seroxat> Ng, i have no windows install disk
[05:18] <pypcjs> hello,test
[05:18] <bipolar> glacious: it will more then likely get fixed sometime today, whatever it is.
[05:18] <glacious> bipolar: could be. =(
[05:18] <test> HI
[05:18] <glacious> bipolar: how would i fix it from console?
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: What setuid said will clear everything in the mbr to zeros.  Meaning you will have no mbr after that.
[05:19] <Ng> setuid: odd, -v adds verbosity here. I suggest you report a bug
[05:19] <bipolar> glacious: if the packages are busted, we have to wait for them to get fixed.
[05:19] <seroxat> tonyyarusso, ok but knoppix does have fdisk
[05:19] <setuid> tonyyarusso: He said he wanted it formatted, formatted means EMPTY
[05:19] <glacious> dooglus: yeah.  i guess the auto-update in Gnome isn't too nice.
[05:19] <seroxat> so is there a way i can kill x so it doesnt start up gdm again?
[05:19] <jrattner> /etc/init.d/saslauthd: line 54: syntax error near unexpected token `('  Anyone got any ideas about this"?
[05:19] <glacious> bipolar: i mean, what would i run to get the latest updates of everything once it's all set?
[05:19] <dooglus> glacious: there's no auto-update is there?
[05:19] <setuid> fdisk /mbr *IS VERY BAD*, do not *EVER* use that
[05:19] <vincenz> How do I do a generic proxy such that I can retarget it  and that all applications go through it, including those that have no proxy stting (for instance gobby)
[05:19] <seroxat> setuid, why?
[05:19] <chicken-man> setuid: works for me :)
[05:19] <seroxat> i have done it tons of times before
[05:19] <dooglus> glacious: it tells you there are packages to install, but won't install them automatically
[05:19] <glacious> dooglus: well, it said "heres some upgrades you need, press OK".  *BOOM* X died =)
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> setuid: That is indeed what he said.  Why, I still don't quite understand, since an empty mbr sounds pretty useless, but that's what he asked for.
[05:20] <setuid> Yep, its a nice way to trash your FS
[05:20] <millicent> cant mount CD drive.
[05:20] <setuid> tonyyarusso: Then he should have said "Formatted and made bootable"
[05:20] <seroxat> tonyyarusso, how is it useless if it makes me able to boot up my OS?
[05:20] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: That's the thing.  It won't.
[05:20] <seroxat> um
[05:20] <seroxat> yes.
[05:20] <Ng> setuid: new users often don't know the "correct" way to phrase a question. please don't start telling people to dd their disk blank unless you are positive that's really what they want
[05:20] <decaf> fdisk/mbr installs a basic, MBR. that MBR boots active setted partition. that's it
[05:21] <glacious> fdisk /mbr reinstalls the default windows boot loader into the mbr and boots to the first partition.
[05:21] <dooglus> glacious: I see "there are 76 updates available", I click the red icon to install them and see "it is not possible to upgrae all packages, and then "you can install 5 packages".
[05:21] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: It will make your computer at boot go, "Hey, so what should I do to boot something?", and the mbr will say, "Uh, nothing.  Go back to bed."
[05:21] <setuid> Ng: Well, the command I gave is precisely how to nuke the MBR and *ONLY* the mbr
[05:21] <setuid> ...using Linux
[05:21] <glacious> dooglus: all i see is a terminal now =)
[05:21] <seroxat> tonyyarusso, thats weird because it worked fine from windows boot floppys
[05:21] <dooglus> glacious: how about installing breezy in a chroot?
[05:21] <glacious> what is the apt-get command i'd run once dapper packages get all nice nice again?
[05:21] <Ng> setuid: even so, it'll leave his disk unbootable, which is unlikely to be his aim. a little common sense is useful :)
[05:21] <millicent> Im having trouble I can not mount my CD drives, im using Ubuntu, and I wantto switch over to Mandriva, I need to back some stuff up.
[05:22] <glacious> dooglus: hrmm.  problem with breezy is it's kernel does not support my SATA controller yet.
[05:22] <dooglus> glacious: sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[05:22] <glacious> dooglus: but dapper auto-detected it @ install...  =)
[05:22] <seroxat> wait... if fdisk /mbr works from a windows floppy, why would it not from linux?
[05:22] <dooglus> glacious: possibly with a "sudo apt-get -f install" to fix any mess
[05:22] <glacious> dooglus: and that should fix my x problems once the packages are fixed on their end?
[05:22] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: Clearing everything?  I don't think so.  fixmbr may work (although I'll let others talk about it's safety).  But there's no way a dd is going to.
[05:22] <vincenz> where does ubuntu place vim-gnome2 in the applications menu?
[05:22] <seroxat> tonyyarusso, fixmbr works perfectly
[05:22] <dooglus> glacious: I guess so.  it's hard to tell though.  sometimes you need to manually tinker with stuff like xorg.conf and such like
[05:23] <_jason> vincenz: mine is in accessories but I think I may have added taht myself
[05:23] <yggdrasil> how can i launch a .jar file in ubunut ?
[05:23] <glacious> dooglus: that i understand.  i just want the packages installed properly, because now they are broken :)
[05:23] <seroxat> okay how do i exit X permanently so gdm doenst start right after+
[05:23] <vincenz> _jason: how?
[05:23] <glacious> dooglus: i guess i'll just run them every couple hours, to see if anything changes.
[05:23] <_jason> yggdrasil: have you installed java?
[05:23] <glacious> dooglus: right now it's just an exit status 1 whenever i run it.
[05:23] <yggdrasil> i dont knwo
[05:23] <dooglus> glacious: if you stay here I'll mention when they're working again
[05:23] <yggdrasil> dont think so
[05:23] <DShepherd> millicent, mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/dir #have you tried that
[05:23] <_jason> vincenz: app menu -> system tools -> app menu editor
[05:23] <_jason> ubotu: tell yggdrasil about java
[05:24] <yggdrasil> looks like it has a java icon
[05:24] <vincenz> _jason: thanks
[05:24] <vincenz> anyone know how to set up a generic proxy that would automatically used for all network connections such that I can easily turn it off when I use my laptop is at home, and uise it when my laptop is at work
[05:24] <_jason> yggdrasil: then you just do 'java -jar /path/to/program.jar'
[05:24] <glacious> dooglus: oh wow, excellent.  is there a time frame?  (morning / afternoon / night, 4 hours?)
[05:24] <tonyyarusso> seroxat: You could do sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop, which will stop gdm and take X down with it.
[05:24] <bedo> Hi all
[05:24] <dooglus> glacious: I've no idea.
[05:24] <bedo> I'm trying to boot a self-made ubuntu distro, based on breezy, with a self-made preseed. It's going well, when it gives me an error like: check target/var/log/bootstrap fo details. But tjis file dowsn't exist! Any hints?
[05:25] <millicent> mount: mount point /mnt/dir does not exist
[05:25] <glacious> dooglus: 5.10 (Breezy?) is amazing.  its on my laptop, sound works, video works, wireless, nic, even the little pause/play / mute / Vol +/- work right out of the box.
[05:25] <glacious> dooglus: someone put in some mad effort for ALL of that to work by default.
[05:26] <yggdrasil> a.awt.AWTError: Cannot load AWT toolkit: gnu.java.awt.peer.gtk.GtkToolkit
[05:26] <glacious> dooglus: is there a way i can check on the status of these packages?  it seems x11-common is where it craps out.  i'm gonna boot to windows to get some work done for now.
[05:26] <mwe> do you guys think it will be possible to upgrade to dapper from breezy without reinstalling once dapper final is released?
[05:26] <raymond> Hello! I can't play some streaming video in my MPlayer.  Help please...
[05:26] <crimsun> mwe: it /must/ be possible. That's a requirement.
[05:26] <bipolar> glacious: I've checked the devel list. there doesn't seem to be any mention of this
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> mwe: Should be, yeah.
[05:27] <glacious> mwe: i've been told a sudo apt-get dist-upgrade would do it.
[05:27] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  may be better to do a reinstall.
[05:27] <Fish-Face> Hi. my 'p' key has stopped working
[05:27] <Fish-Face> (I can still paste ps though)
[05:27] <Fish-Face> when I do xev, the following is rinted:
[05:27] <glacious> bipolar: crap =(   maybe it's just broken forever now =)
[05:27] <Fish-Face>  keycode 33 (keysym 0x0, NoSymbol)
[05:28] <bipolar> glacious: it may just be that more packages are forthcomming.
[05:28] <Fish-Face> why would the keysym be 0x0? :/
[05:28] <dooglus> glacious: I don't know where you can check on dapper status
[05:28] <mikelo> how do i search for a file in a term?
[05:28] <bipolar> glacious: I wish there was a dev in here that can comment on this.
[05:28] <seashell11> mikelo: locate
[05:28] <mikelo> seashell11, tnx
[05:29] <glacious> bipolar: yes.  but they're probably busy working on it :)
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> mikelo: locate filename
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> mikelo: Or find for within directories.
[05:30] <mikelo> tonyyarusso, can i put in *?
[05:30] <Fish-Face> How does one restart the keyboard thingummy?
[05:30] <jenda> dooglus: It seems to have worked perfectly :)
[05:30] <Fish-Face> This has haened while in X, not after ugrading or anything.#
[05:31] <Fish-Face> happened*
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> mikelo: I think it's actually implied...  As in locate fred will turn up my_friend_freddy.  But if you wan't to put it in the middle or something, I believe that's fine.
[05:31] <jenda> dooglus: Thanks again. BTW, you can join us at my #help if you want to offer general help to passers-by, or just hang out with the #help squad.
[05:31] <Alakazam> mike@malakai:~$ glxinfo |grep render
[05:31] <Alakazam> direct rendering: Yes
[05:31] <Alakazam> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G 20050225
[05:31] <test> hi everyone~  is they have chinese??
[05:31] <Alakazam> is my 3d working?
[05:32] <Alakazam> and how can i see my fps in glxgears?
[05:32] <Ng> Alakazam: add -printfps
[05:32] <Marlun> How can I remove the window list applet? I can't seem to right click on it to get the menu where I can choose "Remove from Panel" because the window buttons is in the way.
[05:32] <Alakazam> ty
[05:32] <Ng> Marlun: it has a bar at the left you can right click on
[05:33] <Marlun> Ng, ah, thanks =)
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> So I got this fun little message saying "You have new mail in /var/mail/anthony", how do I read it?
[05:33] <cyphase> is there a screensaver that keeps showing your desktop
[05:33] <Marlun> Is it possible to add one of those bars?
[05:33] <cyphase> so that i can see my desktop, but it'll be locked
[05:34] <Alakazam> wow
[05:34] <Alakazam> that sucks
[05:34] <Alakazam> 674 frames in 5.0 seconds = 134.465 FPS
[05:34] <Fjodor> Ng: You adviced me on the use of free earlier. Now it reports a much lower total. Is my RAM faulty?
[05:34] <jadams> tonyyarusso: type mail
[05:34] <Alakazam> brb
[05:34] <Ng> Fjodor: paste the output to a pastebin?
[05:34] <ubuntu> hallo
[05:34] <Fjodor> 2 sec
[05:34] <Marlun> I mean a bar on the panel to use it like a seperator, to seperate different applets.
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> jadams: Nothing from that.
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> jadams: Command not found.
[05:36] <lapducky> help, help! (I've just broken Dapper's X  server and can't get up.)
[05:36] <Fjodor> Nevermind. I just saw, that it was in a window with ssh to my laptop :-$ But thanks for your willingness to look at it :-)
[05:37] <crimsun> lapducky: with what, gdm?
[05:37] <sharpfurniture> how do i change the resolution of the login screen?
[05:37] <morphix> without interfering with fluxbox's right click menu.. is there something i can install.. which when i insert a cd/dvd in my dvd drive.. it will show up on desktop.. and also the same for my windows mounted hdds?
[05:37] <sharpfurniture> how do i change the resolution of the login screen?
[05:37] <sharpfurniture> i get a virtual resolution for the login screen
[05:37] <sharpfurniture> and dont know how to fix that
[05:38] <HCl> i'd say to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf, but that's at your own risk..
[05:38] <sharpfurniture> im aware
[05:38] <sharpfurniture> i just wasnt sure about it having to do with the login screen
[05:38] <gimmulf_> Where do i find a good guide on securing a whole partition thru cryptation
[05:38] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell sharpfurniture about fixres
[05:39] <HCl> cryptoloop..
[05:39] <sharpfurniture> ubotu is awesome
[05:39] <ubotu> sharpfurniture: Are you smoking crack?
[05:39] <sharpfurniture> yes
[05:39] <HCl> http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Cryptoloop-HOWTO/
[05:40] <azion> Anyone having a prob with the new kernel?
[05:40] <CarinArr> what sort of problems
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> Well, I was able to cat /var/mail/anthony anyway, and "/etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink" - What's that mean?
[05:41] <azion> Not upgrading it
[05:41] <Alakazam> lol
[05:41] <Alakazam> this is crap... my fps suck.
[05:41] <crimsun> azion: "the new kernel" referring to 2.6.15-12.17 or 2.6.15-13.18?
[05:41] <lapducky> The error message is 'No Screens Found'.  Also, I tried this to no avail: root@[HOSTNAME] :~# apt-get remove --purge xorg-driver-fglrx xorg-driver-fglrx-dev gdm; apt-get install gpm xorg-driver-fglrx xorg-driver-fglrx-dev; X
[05:41] <CarinArr> what fps you getting Alakazam?
[05:41] <lapducky> crimsun,
[05:41] <Alakazam> like 150 CarinArr
[05:41] <Alakazam> sould this work for my mobo? http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df-external/Detail_Desc.aspx?agr=Y&ProductID=1672&DwnldID=9541&strOSs=122&OSFullName=Debian*%203.1%20Linux&lang=eng
[05:41] <azion> crimsun, the one on the repository
[05:41] <crimsun> azion: there are many in the repository; to which are you referring?
[05:41] <crimsun> lapducky: on Dapper?
[05:41] <CarinArr> doesn't sound as tho your drivers are working properly then.. i get 2500 and my gfx card is like.. 3 years old
[05:41] <CarinArr> and on a laptop
[05:42] <crimsun> lapducky: have you dist-upgraded in the last 30 minutes?
[05:42] <gimmulf_> HCl:  thanks, will i have to configure the kernel?
[05:42] <joao> i need a prog t linux similar winzip
[05:42] <Alakazam> yeah, im sure they arent CarinArr
[05:42] <Alakazam> im working on that now
[05:42] <HCl> no idea, sorry..
[05:42] <HCl> i'm more a generic linux person, not ubuntu per-se
[05:42] <torrido> hello...speak al in english? nobody speak english?
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> CarinArr: Hrm, I get about the same as him, and that was a lot better than I had before.  I guess I'll have to keep working.
[05:42] <_jason> joao: zip, or use file roller in your accessories menu
[05:42] <CarinArr> with glxgears?
[05:42] <joao> zip
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> torrido: We all speak english, other languages have their own channels.
[05:43] <CarinArr> 11773 frames in 5.0 seconds = 2354.365 FPS
[05:43] <_jason> joao: it's actuall labelled app menu -> accessories -> archive manager
[05:43] <lapducky> crimsun, yep.  I also tried rebooting and selecting  various 'recovery kernels' from the GRUB menu; yes I have done dist-upgrade recently (but more than a half hour ago).
[05:43] <Alakazam> i need to install kernel 2.6.8-2-386, whats the easiest way to do that?
[05:43] <Alakazam> or get debian sarge.
[05:43] <Alakazam> :\
[05:43] <crimsun> lapducky: you need to update && dist-upgrade
[05:43] <crimsun> lapducky: your /usr/X11R6/bin/X symlink is probably invalid; I was bitten by that, too.
[05:43] <joao> i have one rar that archive maneger can't open!!!
[05:44] <azion> crimsun, the one on the repository
[05:44] <lapducky> crimsun, did the Dapper developers just commit spme dependency madness?  (I did apt-get dist-upgrade about an hour+1/4 ago)
[05:44] <bipolar> glacious: I've been looking at the packages apt wants to remove. what isn't working on your end? does X just not start?
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> Alakazam: I sudo apt-get install linux-image-2.6.8-2-386, if that's in the repos.
[05:44] <azion> crimsun, I'm not sure
[05:44] <azion> crimsun, I'm not sur
[05:44] <akuna> arkadalar aranzda trk varm?
[05:44] <azion> crimsun, I got it through synaptic
[05:44] <Alakazam> ok tonyyarusso , let me try that.
[05:44] <dwerf> does linux get messy after long time use?
[05:44] <joao> i have one rar tah archive maneger can't open!!
[05:44] <azion> dwerf, No
[05:44] <Alakazam> E: Couldn't find package linux-image-2.6.8-2-386
[05:44] <Alakazam> bleh
[05:45] <crimsun> azion: can you boot into that one?
[05:45] <Ng> 2.6.8?!
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> joao,  just one? it opens others?
[05:45] <Ng> that's a hoary kernel isn't it?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Alakazam: Why do you need the old one anyway?
[05:45] <joao> _jason: yes
[05:45] <joao> jason, yes
[05:45] <crimsun> lapducky: yes, we're breaking (and fixing) things left and right
[05:45] <azion> crimsun, Do I have to select it specifaclly? Or does it just become default?
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Ng: Must be.
[05:45] <crimsun> azion: uname -r
[05:45] <azion> Still 2.6.12
[05:46] <crimsun> azion: are you using -9- or -10-?
[05:46] <dwerf> azion > i am a real user, i like icons and installing automatically; if i install and then uninstall, nothing gets left behind?
[05:46] <joao> dr_willis, one only
[05:46] <azion> crimsun, -10
[05:46] <_jason> joao: install unrar-nonfree from multiverse
[05:46] <azion> dwerf Nope it'scompletely different from windows
[05:46] <Alakazam> so i can install my video drivers tonyyarusso
[05:47] <crimsun> azion: what specifically is the problem?
[05:47] <lapducky> Holy sha`mokin` drakes -- it wants to \_*remove*_\ x-common, xorg-common, xserver-common,two mozilla components two VNC servers !!
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> joao,  my guess.. either the rar is currupted.. or its some very new version. Try the rar command line tools.
[05:47] <lapducky> crimsun, that looks wrong  -- is it?
[05:47] <crimsun> lapducky: that's fine.
[05:47] <dwerf> azion > i'm liking it more each day; real people seem involved
[05:47] <bipolar> lapducky: yes. I got the same.
[05:47] <lapducky> ...?
[05:47] <crimsun> lapducky: the -commons are Replaced by x11-common
[05:47] <akuna> what are  linux pardus install
[05:47] <aeroraver> hello
[05:47] <azion> crimsun, In stalled the new kernel 2.6.15.1 and I'm still running 2.6.12-10
[05:47] <bipolar> crimsun: so this is normal? I can upgrade without fraking it all up?
[05:48] <crimsun> bipolar: it's expected at this point, yes
[05:48] <azion> dwerf, Exactly here and the forums are your best bet for help
[05:48] <aeroraver> can someone help me using the install command?
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> Hello aeroraver.
[05:48] <bipolar> ok. here it goes
[05:48] <lapducky> crimsun are you migrating back to an XFree86 implementation of X11R6 or something??
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> aeroraver: As in apt-get install or make install?
[05:48] <bipolar> glacious: you reading this?
[05:48] <dwerf> azion > how do explain the rest of the world that good things can be free?
[05:48] <torrido> tonyarusso thanks for you aid, i do not know this chat.. thanks and by..
[05:48] <Samineru> argh
[05:49] <crimsun> bipolar: you may experience some borkage with gdm. If so, check /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and check the references to /usr/X11R6/bin/X -- that symlink is probably invalid. You can either replace them temporarily in the conffile with /etc/X11/X or /usr/bin/Xorg
[05:49] <crimsun> lapducky: no, it's just a missing symlink update
[05:49] <azion> dwerf, You try your best I guess, remember, it's not so much free but open to everone
[05:49] <aeroraver> oh wel i have the linux installer of aMSN
[05:49] <Samineru> is anyone here familiar with unrealircd
[05:49] <aeroraver> on my hd
[05:49] <azion> _jason, You there man?
[05:49] <bipolar> crimsun: I'm getting a huge error message when it tries to upgrade x11-common.
[05:49] <lapducky> what about the mozilla and vnc pkgs it's n00king?
[05:49] <crimsun> bipolar: which?
[05:49] <torrido> tonyyarusso thanks for you aid, i do not know this chat.. thanks and by.
[05:49] <azion> _jason, Having a bit of bother with kernel 2.6.15.1
[05:49] <tonyyarusso> aeroraver: a) What's the filetype, b) I think that's in the repos, which would be far easier, let me check.
[05:50] <lapducky> bipolar, do your batteries run on Li+ ?
[05:50] <aeroraver> its a .bin file
[05:50] <manilapaper> I'm looking for a program that lets me add/edit iptc data in images (e.g. jpegs)?
[05:50] <tonyyarusso> torrido: np, see you later.
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[05:50] <bipolar> lapducky: hahaha
[05:50] <dwerf> azion > i find it hard to understand how such a large and extremely complicated joint collaboration can be so effective
[05:50] <bipolar> lapducky: I'm not that bad, yet
[05:50] <crimsun> azion: what's the error?
[05:50] <dwerf> azion > why isn't it a big mess?
[05:50] <azion> crimsun, Any ideas?
[05:50] <azion> crimsun, No error, just keeps booting 2.6.12
[05:51] <crimsun> azion: oh, that's a user error. You didn't update-grub.
[05:51] <azion> dwerf, Tbh I do't know, there are alot of guidelines and rules
[05:51] <lapducky> Heh, you know what they say: "lithium is the breakfast of champions"
[05:51] <azion> crimsun, No error, just keeps booting 2.6.12
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> aeroraver: Okay, we can either do this the hard way, or you can open a terminal window, type sudo apt-get install amsn (with universe enabled), and be done with it.
[05:51] <lapducky> LOL
[05:51] <azion> crimsun, How do I update grub?
[05:51] <Alakazam> hmm
[05:51] <tonyyarusso> azion: update-grub
[05:51] <crimsun> azion: right, and you neglected to update the /boot/vmlinuz symlink(s) and execute sudo update-grub
[05:51] <aeroraver> ok i'll try that
[05:52] <bipolar> crimsun: I'm making a pastebin...
[05:52] <azion> crimsun, How do I update the syminks?
[05:53] <bipolar> crimsun: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7369
[05:53] <crimsun> azion: by hand
[05:53] <lapducky> crimsun, is there any automated 'diff-ish tool' to check the core files of the base section and major packages for file corruption?
[05:53] <azion> crimsun, Explanation?
[05:53] <bipolar> crimsun: note this is from apt-get -f install since dist-upgrade tells me I need it.
[05:53] <lapducky> crimsun, I mean something like a 'ckinstall' util.
[05:54] <lapducky> ???
[05:54] <azion> tonyyarusso, Do you know how to update symlinks?
[05:54] <aeroraver> sudo apt-get doesnt work for me
[05:54] <azion> _jason, You there dude?
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> azion: Make them manually, yes, update, no.
[05:54] <crimsun> azion: I don't have time to explain it (I'm in a meeting), but others will.
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> !tell aeroraver about universe
[05:54] <crimsun> azion: basically ln -sf
[05:54] <azion> tonyyarusso, How do I do that?
[05:54] <tonyyarusso> aeroraver: After that it will.
[05:55] <lapducky> In Ubuntu, init [what#]  to change to a run-level that will call the x-server?
[05:55] <tonyyarusso> azion: Check out all of !universe !easysource !sources
[05:55] <zodiaq> dont you need rootpass to do shit with sudo?
[05:55] <lapducky> (dist-upgrade compleat --no errors)
[05:55] <bipolar> lapducky: I'm running lvl 2 and have X
[05:55] <aeroraver> i have  enabled everything when i installed ubunto
[05:56] <lapducky> bipolar, how do tell what runlevel I'm presently in?
[05:56] <crimsun> bipolar: sec
[05:56] <Ng> zodiaq: sudo asks you for your own password
[05:56] <bipolar> lapducky: 'runlevel' :)
[05:56] <lapducky> oh... duhhh....
[05:56] <crimsun> lapducky: what do you mean by "core"?
[05:56] <zodiaq> Ng: fffffffffffffffffffffffffff****... ok... so now i cant remember my rootpass cause i thought that was the one :P
[05:57] <dumbducky> crimsun like 'base-utils' and linux-image-[uname -r] 
[05:57] <olicat> zodiaq, there is no root pass
[05:57] <bipolar> crimsun: looks like everything depends on x-common but x11-common is to be installed. :\
[05:57] <crimsun> bipolar: did you just update && dist-upgrade?
[05:57] <dumbducky> crimsun, and all the pkgs pulled by 'ubuntu minimal' (e.g.)
[05:57] <Ng> zodiaq: by default there is no root password
[05:57] <bipolar> crimsun: yes. an hour or so ago. now did it again with same result.
[05:58] <crimsun> dumbducky: debsums
[05:58] <bipolar> crimsun: out of sync mirror?
[05:58] <Ng> zodiaq: so unless you've specifically set one then the root account is still disabled
[05:58] <crimsun> bipolar: are you using a.u.c or a mirror?
[05:58] <schalke> hi. could someone give a hint how to force the deletion of a installes printer? Cups webmin shows that no printer is installed but the gnome-admin-tool still shows a printer with 5 jobs. A deletion via menu is not possible.
[05:58] <bipolar> crimsun: http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[05:58] <aLeSD> hi all
[05:58] <crimsun> bipolar: use a.u.c
[05:58] <zodiaq> Ng: oooh... well that sound good then, thanks ^^
[05:58] <dumbducky> crimsun, is there a debsums script file with up-to-date hashmarks for current Dapper gak?
[05:58] <crimsun> bipolar: and use aptitude, not apt-get
[05:59] <Dr_Willis> schalke,  try restarting the cups service.
[05:59] <crimsun> dumbducky: debsums is installable, yes
[05:59] <schalke> ok. I'll try
[05:59] <Corrupter> how do i change my username and system name from the CLI?
[05:59] <aLeSD> I have a problem with ubuntu and nvidia driver: when I try to do ctrl+alt+F(1,2,3,4...) my screen is totally black. Someone could hel me?
[05:59] <dwerf> what's the use for dummy packages?
[06:00] <dumbducky> crimsun, with current hashmarks (signed)?
[06:00] <idefix_> in what year will it be possible to use your webcam in gaim?
[06:00] <JoeBlow> hey guys, when i go to explore my cd rom , it just opens sound juicers
[06:00] <idefix_> I mean use your webcam like filming device
[06:00] <idefix_> in gaim, like it is already possible with MSN
[06:01] <apokryphos> it's not possible; it doesn't support it, I'm pretty sure.
[06:01] <crimsun> dumbducky: em, debsums depends on current, so yes
[06:01] <dooglus> Corrupter: to change your login name:   sudo usermod -l newname oldname
[06:01] <apokryphos> idefix_: only amsn and Kopete have support for that (MSN-wise)
[06:01] <r0bby_> is there a known issue with x11-common borking when doing apt-get upgrade on dapper? (i don't need support per se just curious)
[06:01] <Corrupter> idefix_: they've had that on AIM for years and i've never once heard of or seen anyone use it, so i doubt they will take the time to add it as a feature
[06:01] <soarcerer> how do i install programs i have downloaded
[06:01] <schalke> Dr_Willis: I`ve tried "/etc/init.d/cupsys restart". The printer is still present in the administration-tool
[06:01] <Corrupter> dooglus: what about system name?
[06:01] <bipolar> crimsun: ok. seems to be working. I'll let you know when it's done upgrading.
[06:01] <manilapaper> i will be getting an ipod soon. is it easy to add songs to it via ubuntu?
[06:01] <idefix_> apokryphos so amsn and Kopete are linux programs
[06:02] <idefix_> ?
[06:02] <r0bby_> and gaim
[06:02] <r0bby_> :P
[06:02] <r0bby_> gaim is also VERY popular
[06:02] <dooglus> Corrupter: hostname you mean?
[06:02] <apokryphos> idefix_: yes
[06:02] <Corrupter> dooglus: yes
[06:02] <apokryphos> r0bby: but it doesn't have webcam support, which was the question.
[06:02] <r0bby_> ah
[06:02] <r0bby_> right
[06:02] <apokryphos> Kopete is the way to go =)
[06:02] <r0bby_> regardless :P
[06:02] <Corrupter> idefix_: why do you want webcam support?
[06:02] <vhaarr> "/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory" :(
[06:02] <dooglus> Corrupter: sudo gedit /etc/hostname
[06:02] <r0bby_> gaim still has a cleaner UI
[06:02] <r0bby_> :)
[06:03] <vhaarr> Anyone know how I can fix that?
[06:03] <bipolar> kopete in kde 3.5 has webcam support
[06:03] <apokryphos> yuck, no way
[06:03] <jadams> Corrupter: isn't "just because" a good enough answer?
[06:03] <r0bby_> now somebody answer mah question :P
[06:03] <manilapaper> anybody here with an mp3 player?
[06:03] <schalke> Dr_Willis: would it help to uninstall cups completely?
[06:03] <Corrupter> jadams: calm down man, i wasn't saying it insultingly, i was asking a question, there ARE alternatives depending on the reason he wants to use it
[06:04] <shredhead15>  hi   i just installed ubuntu and cannot get my mouse working,  does anyone have any advice?
[06:04] <idefix_> Corruptor, my friend bought a webcam and he wanted to use it
[06:04] <aeroraver> ok other question, i found amsn in the repo, how do i update it
[06:04] <dooglus> r0bby_: X in dapper has been broken for 24 hours or so I'd guess
[06:04] <aeroraver> i installed  0.94
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> schalke,  thats a little extreme.
[06:04] <Corrupter> idefix_: does he want to actually talk back and forth with streaming video, or just record it and send something?
[06:04] <aeroraver> and i want 0.95
[06:04] <bipolar> apokryphos: I love KDE it's way better then Gnome...
[06:04] <jolson> Hi, I have a few questions regarding network cards and screen resolutions. Is it OK if I ask them here?
[06:04] <JoeBlow> hey guys, when i go to explore my cd rom , it just opens sound juicers
[06:05] <Corrupter> bipolar: prove it
[06:05] <bipolar> haha
[06:05] <idefix_> Corruptor the first
[06:05] <bipolar> Corrupter: prove gnome is better first :)
[06:05] <idefix_> but MSN doesn't have streaming video, maybe only 4 images/sec
[06:05] <schalke> Dr_Willis: but at least useful - linke format c: in my ancient days with win ;-)
[06:05] <s0kk4> anyone around for a short question ?
[06:05] <Alizee> i am using live cd on my freind's pc, what a pity it doesn't contain a gcc
[06:05] <dooglus> r0bby_: try updating dapper again now - it looks like it's in better shape
[06:05] <Corrupter> bipolar: i didn't make the comment
[06:05] <arcskon> !anyone
[06:05] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[06:05] <vhaarr> I've tried symlinking "Xorg" to "X", but I just get a fatal error then.
[06:06] <idefix_> sorry Corrupter and not Corruptor
[06:06] <crimsun> dooglus: ...broken?
[06:06] <dooglus> crimsun: like uninstallable
[06:06] <apokryphos> bipolar: =)
[06:06] <crimsun> dooglus: it's completely installable for me
[06:06] <Alakazam> ok whats the difference between ubuntu and debian...
[06:06] <s0kk4> well was just about to ask, if ubuntu got .deb file support, or if any linux distribution (expect debian itself) got .deb support
[06:06] <JoeBlow> can someone please help me browse a damn cd
[06:06] <arcskon> Alakazam: Ubuntu is a more user-friendly version of debian
[06:06] <apokryphos> Alakazam: /msg ubotu relationship
[06:06] <crimsun> dooglus: it barfs on a dist-upgrade from Breezy, but it's nothing that you can't hack around with a symlink
[06:06] <bipolar> Corrupter: simple. it's better becouse I'm happier using it. your turn :D
[06:06] <Alakazam> ty
[06:07] <apokryphos> bipolar, Corrupter: #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:07] <dooglus> crimsun: you've not had any problems with dapper's X packages over the last day or so?
[06:07] <CarinArr> s0kk4, yes.. ubuntu packages are in .deb format too
[06:07] <bosco> am i getting "unable to translate device /dev/sda5" any idea
[06:07] <bosco> suspend 2
[06:07] <vhaarr> dooglus: I'm having problems right now, it says it can't find /usr/bin/X11/X
[06:07] <crimsun> dooglus: none. Then again, I'm fairly conservative with dist-upgrades within the devel branch
[06:08] <Corrupter> idefix_: well (as far as i know) there aren't any capable instant messaging programs that Linux has that support streaming audio, but if i remember right i've seen one or 2 programs that are Windows and Linux based, so your friend could download one of these, but whoever he wants to use it with will have to download it as well
[06:08] <idefix_> Corruptor streaming video is not possible with MSN messenger either
[06:08] <vhaarr> dooglus: "/etc/X11/xinit/xserverrc: line 2: /usr/bin/X11/X: No such file or directory"
[06:08] <crimsun> vhaarr: that's simple to work around, just use /etc/X11/X
[06:08] <vhaarr> crimsun: oh
[06:08] <crimsun> vhaarr: or /usr/bin/Xorg
[06:08] <jolson> My network wont "just work" in Ubuntu. Is there something I can do about it. Enabling eth0 in a configuration window doesn't help.
[06:08] <schalke> cuall
[06:08] <vhaarr> crimsun: I tried /usr/bin/Xorg, but I get a fatal error then.
[06:08] <Corrupter> idefix_: i don't use MSN so i don't know if you would be able to or not with it
[06:08] <vhaarr> crimsun: I'll try /etc/X11/X
[06:08] <s0kk4> thanks @CarinArr
[06:09] <Samineru> is anyone here familiar with the unrealircd 3.2 installer?/familiar with unrealircd at all?
[06:09] <Corrupter> idefix_: i had an Intel Camera (that was supposed to be a webcam but didn't like to work on Linux OR Windows) and i went searching for these programs a while ago, but i can't remember the name at the moment, sorry :-\
[06:09] <_deepfire> hello folks
[06:09] <r0bby_> nevermind
[06:09] <dooglus> crimsun: is x-common installable at the moment?
[06:09] <Alizee> it is alittle noisy here,'
[06:09] <_deepfire> is mozilla-browser known botched in dapper?
[06:09] <idefix_> nevermind..
[06:09] <poningru> guys is there an easy method of installing jdk like jre?
[06:10] <vhaarr> _deepfire: yes
[06:10] <bipolar> crimsun: ok. the upgrade is done. I'm going to restart X and see if it all still works :p
[06:10] <poningru> _deepfire: you may wanna use the seamonkey
[06:10] <poningru> from the mozilla site
[06:10] <Samineru> noone?
[06:10] <glacious> bipolar: ?
[06:10] <jolson> How can I make more screen resolutions (that I know is supported) show up in the list of resolutions.
[06:10] <bosco> am i getting "unable to translate device /dev/sda5" any ideas on how to get suspend 2 to work\
[06:10] <_deepfire> i generally want a browser which could use mozilla`s plugins
[06:10] <idefix_> affo601
[06:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> poningru: Have you tried the one from Sun's website?
[06:10] <Corrupter> idefix_: sorry, wish i could be of more help
[06:10] <vhaarr> _deepfire: Firefox?
[06:10] <_deepfire> mainly the macromedia proprietary flash plugin
[06:11] <poningru> PuMpErNiCkLe: hehe
[06:11] <_deepfire> vhaar, firefox 1.5 doesn`t seem to go well with macromedia plugin
[06:11] <idefix_> Corrupter: it's all still futuristic, no?
[06:11] <PuMpErNiCkLe> poningru: ^_^
[06:11] <_deepfire> vhaarr, sorry
[06:11] <Mias> hi
[06:11] <glacious> bah, x11-common keeps crapping out in apt-get
[06:11] <poningru> yeah all right I guess I should just do that
[06:11] <poningru> its just that I am on a wireless
[06:11] <Mias> I cant sudo because it has a problem with gethostbyname; my cd install hung on tzconfig
[06:11] <glacious> x11-common (--configure) part.
[06:11] <crimsun> dooglus: no, nor should it be. x11-common replaces it.
[06:12] <Mias> I have a valid /etc/hostname and host.conf, what to do?
[06:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> poningru: Ah, I see... get back to me tomorrow when it's done downloading ;)
[06:12] <shredhead15> does anyone one know how to get a mouse working in ubuntu?
[06:12] <glacious> anyone know why the X11-common post-installation script would crap out in apt-get?
[06:12] <glacious> (Dapper)
[06:12] <poningru> exactly
[06:12] <dooglus> crimsun: but about a billion packages depend on x-common
[06:12] <Samineru> ok seeing as noone can help me with my first problem, what is necessary to get my wireless card to function in ubuntu, it's not currentyl working
[06:12] <aLeSD> where I find the configuration file of grub?
[06:12] <Mias> kubuntu 5.10
[06:12] <crimsun> dooglus: apt-cache policy x11-common
[06:13] <_deepfire> glacious, you`d want to paste the logs somewhere
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,  depends on  the reason its broke. They work for most people..  - what Kind of mouse you got? and whats not working for it.
[06:13] <Corrupter> idefix_: not really... the technology has been around since god knows when... just nobody really wants to waste the bandwidth to use it, so it doesn't advance very much
[06:13] <glacious> _deepfire: not sure how, i can't even get into X =(
[06:13] <_deepfire> links?
[06:13] <dooglus> crimsun: what about it?
[06:13] <_deepfire> glacious, you can use a textmode browser, like links
[06:13] <shredhead15> its a ps/2 mouse  and i cant move the cursor
[06:13] <eastgroup> hi
[06:13] <_deepfire> glacious, plus gpm for textmode mouse cut`n`paste
[06:13] <azion> When downloading the kernel from kernel.org does that include the source?
[06:13] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,  most likely you need to edit the xorg.conf  and set the right mouse "Device"
[06:14] <aeroraver> i still have trouble installing amsn 0.95
[06:14] <glacious> _deepfire: mouse isn't working yet either in console
[06:14] <Ng> azion: that's all you get from kernel.org ;)
[06:14] <crimsun> dooglus: ...what version is being installed?
[06:14] <azion> ng,Cheers
[06:14] <_deepfire> glacious, what kind of mouse do you have?
[06:14] <glacious> _deepfire: standard USB /w scrollwheel
[06:14] <dooglus> Installed: 7.0.0-0ubuntu6
[06:14] <shredhead15> ok   im new to this   could you please tell me how to do that?
[06:14] <crimsun> dooglus: what is it barfing on?
[06:14] <JoeBlow> hey, is writing to ntfs really possible with wine? I mean, when i use wine, it appears to write files to my windows partition, but i thought linux couldnt write to ntfs
[06:14] <Ng> azion: I would point out that unless you really need to compile your own kernel from there, you probably shouldn't
[06:14] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,  somewhere in that file is a few lines like --->   Option          "Device"                "/dev/input/mice"
[06:14] <dooglus> crimsun: it's not barfing at all
[06:14] <Ng> azion: or at least you should try and add in the patches ubuntu apply to their kernels
[06:15] <glacious> dooglus: you having problems with x11-common being updated?
[06:15] <aeroraver> can someone tell me how to install .bin files
[06:15] <dooglus> glacious: no, it's all fine :)
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,   you may need to change it to /dev/input/psaux
[06:15] <glacious> =)
[06:15] <crimsun> heh.
[06:15] <crimsun> x-common is replaced by x11-common.
[06:15] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,   you may need to change it to /dev/psaux   ( I think thats correct)   :P /dev/input is for the usb devices.
[06:16] <shredhead15> ok   so to get to that file   what  do i do again
[06:16] <glacious> crimsun: well neither work for me now that dapper updated them =)
[06:16] <shredhead15> i tried last night also
[06:16] <dooglus> crimsun: a whole load of packages complained like "dpkg: x-common: dependency problems, but removing anyway as you request: libxt6 depends on x-common, ..." during a dist-upgrade, but it all seems to have worked out ok.
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> shredhead15,  sudo nano whateverfile
[06:16] <Dr_Willis> or is it pico.
[06:16] <bipolar> crimsun, ok. I think I have a problem with a missing symlink or something. X wont start. But if I "sudo Xorg" it does. Am I missing a symlink X > Xorg?
[06:16] <azion> Can anyone tell me how to update symlinks?
[06:17] <dooglus> glacious: when I say I'm not having problems, well...  I've been able to update successfully, BUT I've not tried restarting X, 'cos I know it may well fail...
[06:17] <crimsun> bipolar: yes, see scrollback for what I said regarding /usr/X11R6/bin/X and /usr/bin/Xorg
[06:17] <dooglus> azion: "sudo ln -sf TARGET /path/to/link"
[06:17] <bipolar> crimsun, sorry. I just logged in. I don't have that history. :(
[06:17] <glacious> dooglus: ahh ok.  i am running dapper, X just updated, and failed to restart =)
[06:17] <crimsun> bipolar: you can either update /etc/gdm/gdm.conf to use /etc/X11/X or /usr/bin/Xorg directly
[06:17] <glacious> dooglus: you on dapper too?
[06:17] <crimsun> glacious: see above
[06:18] <shredhead15> ok  so i run xterm  right
[06:18] <dooglus> glacious: I'm running dapper, X just updated, like it did yesterday, but I didn't restart it yesterday or today.
[06:18] <azion> dooglus, How do I point that to a new kernel I downloaded using synaptic?
[06:18] <crimsun> lunch time.
[06:18] <glacious> crimsun: what am i looking for?  a fix? =)
[06:18] <Cr0w-> hello..sometimes in the console appears this msg ==> [4296944.110000]  Assertion failed! qc->flags & ATA_QCFLAG_ACTIVE,drivers/scsi/libdata-core.c,atapi_packet_task,line=3614, what is that?
[06:18] <crimsun> glacious: I just told you the workaround.
[06:18] <dooglus> azion: something like:  "sudo ln -s boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-12-686 /vmlinuz"  -  but with the correct filename in /boot/
[06:19] <azion> dooglus, ty
[06:19] <glacious> crimsun: well apt-get is comletely borked either way.
[06:19] <glacious> crimsun: i can't even install lynx without it complaining about x11
[06:19] <glacious> er x-common
[06:19] <dooglus> glacious: did you try an apt-get update recently?  it seems to have been fixed in the last hour.
[06:19] <chris_117> how do I set up my computer so when I type in my IP it shows my apache site?
[06:19] <bipolar> glacious, I got it working.
[06:19] <azion> dooglus, I don't see it there
[06:20] <glacious> dooglus: yes, did update, dist-upgrade, and -f install
[06:20] <bipolar> glacious, the mirrors have not cought up to the main repo yet.
[06:20] <glacious> dooglus: still failed on x11-common
[06:20] <dooglus> azion: look in /boot/ - you'll see some vmlinux* files, no?
[06:20] <chris_117> (meaning I want to go to my website without using "localhost" or "127.0.0.1")
[06:20] <glacious> bipolar: just do an apt-get update?
[06:20] <Corrupter> how do i set up internet with the CLI?
[06:20] <azion> dooglus, Yes but not the kernel I downloaded using synaptic
[06:20] <bipolar> glacious, I switched to the main mirror, used aptitude, and it's working now, except for this simlink issue I'm working on now.
[06:20] <dooglus> glacious: echo deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ dapper main restricted universe multiverse > /etc/apt/sources.list :)
[06:21] <dooglus> azion: that's hard to believe.  synaptic always installs kernels into /boot/
[06:22] <chris_117> I have 2 ubuntu machines, one is a GUI-less server, the other is a desktop.
[06:22] <azion> dooglus, Maybe Im not correct in saying that
[06:22] <chris_117> Can I log into the server remotely with my desktop?
[06:22] <dooglus> azion: that sounds more likely...
[06:22] <azion> dooglus, It  was the update thing that said the new kernel was out
[06:22] <eastgroup> how do i know the password of Webmin , i've install webmin fresh install how i know th password and username ?
[06:22] <baecksche> hello
[06:22] <azion> dooglus, So I selected the 686 kernel ver and downloaded
[06:22] <glacious> dooglus: ty =)
[06:23] <bipolar> looks like it's all working now.
[06:23] <MeWhOeLsE> Hi. I'm having network setup problems. Firefox and its extensions get on the internet fine. But when I sue any other program e.g. Synaptic it gets very slow acces... and then jsut stops and all teh packages fail... One thing I've noted is that when I use apt-get update. All the IPs of teh sites its accessing are just 1.0.0.0 This is also the case if I use XChat IRC all the server IPs come up...
[06:23] <MeWhOeLsE> ...as 1.0.0.0 I'm really confused now. can anyone help me at all???
[06:23] <dooglus> bipolar: did you have to fiddle with a symlink?  or did it just work?
[06:23] <glacious> dooglus: still craps out on dist-upgrade
[06:23] <JoeBlow> how do I allow writeing to a ext 3 drive?
[06:23] <bipolar> glacious, you'll need to edit gdm.conf can change /usr/X11R6/bin/X to /usr/bin/Xorg
[06:23] <bipolar> dooglus, see ^^
[06:23] <chris_117> is there a list of names/IPs I can type in to access localhost?
[06:24] <baecksche> could someone help me to install a *.deb in my debian?
[06:24] <dooglus> MeWhOeLsE: run a terminal, and run "env | grep -F 1.0.0.0" in it.  does it show anything?
[06:24] <glacious> bipolar: ok.  i gotta get it installed correctly somehow first =(  apt-get is still borked.
[06:24] <azion> baecksche, Yup
[06:24] <writer> hi all. How do I shut off bluetooth and HP
[06:24] <mtlife> can anyone help me out with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119067
[06:24] <baecksche> nice
[06:24] <MeWhOeLsE> nothing at all
[06:24] <azion> baecksche, Where's the file?
[06:24] <bipolar> glacious, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and set everything to archive.ubuntu.org
[06:24] <azion> baecksche, Open terminal. and go to that directory
[06:25] <writer> baecksche: sudo dpkg -i *.deb
[06:25] <glacious> bipolar: .com or .org?
[06:25] <baecksche> thx
[06:25] <baecksche> ill try
[06:25] <bipolar> er... let me check mine
[06:25] <dooglus> MeWhOeLsE: what if you run "env | grep -i proxy"?
[06:25] <azion> dooglus, Any ideas?
[06:25] <glacious> bipolar: so just change security.ubuntu.com and us.archive.ubuntu.com to archive.ubuntu.com?
[06:26] <MeWhOeLsE> still nothing...
[06:26] <bipolar> glacious, not security. just remove the us.
[06:26] <bipolar> glacious, and I was told to use aptitude rather then apt-get
[06:26] <dooglus> azion: what do you see if you run "grep -i 'installed linux-686' /var/log/dpkg.log | tail -1" in a terminal?
[06:26] <bipolar> glacious, it seems to use the same options. aptitude update, aptitude dist-upgrade
[06:27] <mtlife> can anyone help me out with this: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119067 ?
[06:27] <aLeSD> hi , I'm going to compile the kernel.
[06:28] <bipolar> ok. I'm going to log back in from my laptop now... brb
[06:28] <azion> dooglus, No such file or directory
[06:28] <aLeSD> I'd like to know if the support for the ipw2200 is outside the kernel or inside. I'm using the configure file that come with the kernel-image-i686 and I only changed the processor type and the preemtive option
[06:28] <aLeSD> someone knows?
[06:29] <david2> how do i view the package descrition before i install it from the command line
[06:29] <jenda> dooglus: around?
[06:29] <writer> aLeSD: just try it
[06:29] <azion> dooglus, For linux-686
[06:29] <aLeSD> It's very strange that the preemtive option is not set by default in ubuntu kernels, isn't it?
[06:30] <aLeSD> writer: yeah but if I install the modules and after I come back I cannot load them
[06:30] <zenmaster> High, I'm having a hard time with the synaptic packaging system. It is telling me that I have eight broken packages. I'm curious is there a way I can make it ignore those broken packages?
[06:30] <azion> dooglus, I can't see that the kernel was installed, I see other things I got today, but not that
[06:31] <zenmaster> I'm using the synaptic package manager, by the way.
[06:31] <antix_> is this available for ubuntu? http://earth.google.com/earth_fusion.html
[06:31] <aLeSD> ubuntu kernel has a lot of patch
[06:31] <chris_117> How do I make it so typing in my IP in the browser brings up the apache hosted website that resides on it?
[06:31] <bipolar> ok. I'm all back up and runnin now
[06:31] <Ng> antix_: nope, although it has been suggested that google are porting earth to linux
[06:32] <kineticturtle> hello everybody
[06:32] <writer> aLeSD: you should change grub or lilo. If not load - load from CD or FDD and edit lilo
[06:32] <antix_> Ng, but it's available for suse it looks?
[06:32] <kineticturtle> any thoughts on why I'm getting a brown screen and no desktop on my first boot into ubuntu on an iMac?
[06:32] <Ng> antix_: oh, the backend stuff. well if it runs on suse it should run on any linux distro really
[06:32] <MeWhOeLsE> ERm... to add to the information about my problem... I recently had teh amd64 version installed... and teh networking worked fine. I've now installed the i386 version (clean install) and its never worked since
[06:32] <aLeSD> ok. I hate esd sound system
[06:33] <aLeSD> someone use amix?
[06:33] <azion> If I compile my kernel, will all the ubuntu patches be gone
[06:33] <balor> aLeSD, try polypaudio
[06:33] <poningru> jeez this thing takes a while
[06:33] <antix_> Ng, so I was wondering where to find it.. it's not available for download from google.. :(
[06:33] <balor> kineticturtle, if you wait does it bring anything up?  IS it after you log in?
[06:33] <aLeSD> balor: is it trasparent or the applications have to know it ?
[06:33] <kineticturtle> balor: after login, and after a very long wait
[06:33] <Ng> antix_: I think you have to buy the higher end versions of Earth like that, only the basic version is free and that's windows only
[06:33] <kineticturtle> there's still nothing but brown
[06:34] <balor> kineticturtle, Nautilus is hanging for some reason then
[06:34] <balor> aLeSD, it's a drop in replacement for esd
[06:34] <kineticturtle> how can I figure out what that reason is?
[06:34] <ubuntu> Is it anyone who knows how to get codecs to Totem? Must have som codec to play the stream from Internet-radios..
[06:34] <antix_> Ng, ok hope it will be made available.... :)
[06:34] <jenda> hey arnducky :)
[06:34] <balor> kineticturtle, switch to a terminal and kill -TERM the nautilus process.
[06:35] <aLeSD> I think ubuntu is for desktop usage... mmm
[06:35] <zenmaster> Is there anyone here who is available to help me? :)
[06:35] <aLeSD> good shot
[06:35] <aLeSD> zenmaster: try
[06:35] <antix_> ubuntu, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?highlight=%28restricted%29
[06:35] <jenda> zenmaster: Ask away
[06:35] <dooglus> jenda: yes
[06:35] <balor> kineticturtle, it's possible some other process that executes during login is foobaring either...have a look at the process list first
[06:35] <zenmaster> Well the synaptic package manager is telling me that I have eight broken packages.
[06:35] <zenmaster> Is there  a way I can tell it to ignore them?
[06:36] <kineticturtle> balor, er, sorry if this is nub-esque, but how can I get to a term from here? I dont' think anything's really responding.
[06:36] <arnducky> (: hey, jenda /JOIN #ubuntu-offtopic if it pleaseth thee
[06:36] <jenda> dooglus: check #help, I asked about the script - no use flooding here :)
[06:36] <balor> zenmaster, lucky you...I've a foobared X coz X.org 7 got dropped into drapper today
[06:36] <ubuntu> antix_ : Thx
[06:36] <glacious> ummmm
[06:36] <balor> kineticturtle, alt+ctrl+F1...though not sure on a Mac
[06:36] <glacious> the following packages will be removed:  grub   <---- wtf?
[06:36] <aLeSD> drivers/acpi/ibm_acpi.c:1: internal compiler error: Segmentation fault
[06:36] <glacious> why will grub be removed?
[06:36] <aLeSD> it compile very well
[06:36] <zenmaster> It must've happened either while I was between when my buddy was either installing limewire on here or when I was doing rtorrent.
[06:37] <kineticturtle> balor: control-option-f1, just figured it out ;-)
[06:37] <kineticturtle> thanks
[06:37] <zenmaster> I just want it to ignore them so I can get one with installing apache and mysql the way they want it. I could compile it myself and get it working, but seems like when I compile stuff myself even if I have no problems or errors.... synaptic says that I have broken packages.
[06:38] <aLeSD> is there ubuntu developer?
[06:38] <aLeSD> or where could I find him?
[06:38] <balor> aLeSD, everyones a developer
[06:38] <aLeSD> right
[06:38] <zenmaster> Any ideas? :P
[06:38] <glacious> bipolar: what do i change so i stop getting the 'can not find Xserver' error?  i can't see any reference to any server in xorg.conf
[06:38] <aLeSD> why there isn't the preemptive support in the kernel?
[06:39] <glacious> whats the link in xorg.conf you need to change from Xserver to X or something?
[06:39] <aLeSD> it could be faster
[06:40] <ReDeemer> I have a grub question
[06:40] <aLeSD> and it's one of the principal thing of the 2.6 kernel
[06:40] <ReDeemer> Can I just edit out the lines in grub for the kernels I dont want to see?
[06:40] <glacious> ReDeemer: yes
[06:40] <feistel> how I can change the Ubuntu 5.10 string in console login?
[06:40] <ReDeemer> by the whole listing or just the first line?
[06:41] <dooglus> azion: what command did that "no such file or directory" come from?
[06:41] <glacious> ReDeemer: just comment out the sections you don't want to see.
[06:41] <ReDeemer> danke
[06:41] <glacious> ReDeemer: no problem :)
[06:42] <glacious> ReDeemer: comment out from 'title' to 'boot'
[06:42] <ReDeemer> ok
[06:42] <ReDeemer> all in between too
[06:42] <ReDeemer> i guess
[06:42] <ReDeemer> k
[06:42] <glacious> what link do you need to fix in xorg.conf to get x to work in dapper now with the updates?
[06:42] <dooglus> feistel: it looks like it might get that from /etc/issue
[06:42] <glacious> ReDeemer: yes.  comment out the entire section for each entry.
[06:42] <chicken-man> Can some one help me with Hotplug Subsystem I cannot boot because it crashes the system :(
[06:43] <ilba7r> is there a command line to monitor active internet connections?
[06:43] <rhizod> Support question: what package should I install to get hyphenation working in openoffice.org2 ?
[06:43] <feistel> dooglus: thanks!
[06:43] <morphix> ilba7r, monitor in what way??
[06:44] <morphix> open connections?
[06:44] <ilba7r> morphix, what ports are open and to which hosts
[06:44] <manitu> deb http://dot.name.tr/ubuntu-decaf/ debs/               videolan client (vlc) backport for breezy. someone please try
[06:44] <aLeSD> someone here has compiled the kernel?
[06:45] <manitu> aLeSD: I've never needed on Ubuntu
[06:45] <morphix> ilba7r, netstat -a
[06:45] <morphix> same as windows systems
[06:45] <ilba7r> thanx
[06:45] <aLeSD> manitu... do u have a k7?
[06:45] <morphix> np
[06:46] <manitu> aLeSD: yes, I have an athlon 2200+, installed  linux-image-2.6.12-10-k7
[06:46] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my system to boot, it keeps crashing on Hotplug Subsystem
[06:46] <aLeSD> manitu: I have a centrino with i686 ... don't like
[06:46] <glacious> whenever i start /etc/init.d/gdm i get:  GDM: Xserver not found /usr/X11R6/bin/X  (using Dapper, with new update)
[06:46] <eastgroup> what is a good control panel for hosting to run under ubuntu
[06:47] <ITSa341> I'm getting this error message when I try to let the updates happen in the package manager.    http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372   How do I fix it?
[06:47] <chicken-man> Can someone help me get my system to boot, it keeps crashing on Hotplug Subsystem
[06:48] <glacious> anyone know the fix for X11 in the dapper update?
[06:48] <decaf> aLeSD: you can compile kernel if you need. just install kernel-package and read its docs.
[06:48] <aLeSD> chicken-man: try the safe mode and start it by hands ... and pray
[06:49] <aLeSD> decaf: I'm doing it now. And gives me a segmentation fault in a module (I deselect it). Do u know if it support ipw2200 ?
[06:49] <dooglus> is there a vnc server package which works in dapper?
[06:50] <glacious> dooglus: do you remember the link that needs to be changed to get X to work again?
[06:50] <glacious> dooglus: i had to do a reboot, and lost it.
[06:50] <source> hyy
[06:50] <morphix> dapper?
[06:51] <glacious> morphix: yes
[06:51] <morphix> thats the lastest beta isnt it??
[06:51] <morphix> or..
[06:52] <glacious> morphix: yes
[06:52] <glacious> dooglus: no idea?
[06:52] <aLeSD> someone here use amix of alsa for software mixing?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> psssssst dapper isnt beta yet
[06:53] <MrPockets> aleSD
[06:53] <MrPockets> yeah
[06:53] <Dr_Willis> dapper is omega? :P
[06:53] <dooglus> glacious: just a sec.
[06:53] <aLeSD> MrPockets: better that esd no?
[06:53] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:53] <morphix> hmm
[06:53] <ITSa341> How do I remove a bad package from the apt cache?
[06:53] <morphix> i have 3 kernels
[06:53] <morphix> wtf
[06:54] <aLeSD> MrPockets: no delay
[06:54] <ReDeemer> damn..more video problems
[06:54] <gnomefreak> omega is end alpha is beginning lol :)
[06:54] <MrPockets> aLeSD, say what?
[06:54] <glacious> ReDeemer: whats up?
[06:55] <pavka> ITSa341: "apt-get clean" remove all packages from cache
[06:55] <ReDeemer> Howcome after I install the nvidia drivers...it works after the initial reboot..after the next, X fails to start
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ITSa341, apt-cache list programs avalible not installed and to remove packages its sudo apt-get remove package
[06:55] <aLeSD> MrPockets: that amix doesn't have delay like esd
[06:55] <ompaul> gnomefreak, there are better ways of saying that
[06:55] <aLeSD> in the sound
[06:55] <ReDeemer> and I have to reload nvidia drivers again
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ompaul, saying what ?
[06:55] <morphix> i have 3 kernels listed in grub.. 1 from when i originally installed ubuntu.. then another from the latest update.. and then a new 686 1
[06:55] <morphix> hmm
[06:55] <ITSa341> pavka   gnomefreak   ty
[06:55] <ompaul> that dapper is not a good idea for people to run yet
[06:55] <gnomefreak> ITSa341, yw
[06:55] <morphix> can i just apt-get remove the other 2 kernels?
[06:56] <ReDeemer> http://pastebin.com/513293
[06:56] <ReDeemer> my error log from Xorg
[06:56] <dooglus> glacious: sudo sed -i.bak -e 's!/usr/X11R6/bin/Xnest!/usr/bin/Xnest!' -e 's!/usr/X11R6/bin/X!/usr/bin/X11/Xorg!' /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[06:56] <gnomefreak> ompaul, i didnt say anything about running it i just commented on it not being beta yet
[06:56] <glacious> dooglus: woohoo! thanks =)
[06:56] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ahh,
[06:56] <dooglus> glacious: now with added exclamation marks!!!
[06:57] <DustyDingo> Hi
[06:57] <gnomefreak> not to mention dapper has xserver issues now anyway :(
[06:57] <ompaul> gnomefreak, I was playing kill the partition this afternoon and to be honest if my brain had been working cating dev random to the hard drive would have saved me a serious amount of time
[06:58] <glacious> dooglus: so, just basically replace the first line, with the 2nd line?
[06:58] <DustyDingo> need to check this, because too strange: ubuntu has by default no superuser?
[06:58] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get ubuntu to boot up
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ompaul, why were you playing kill the partion? sounds like fun but why
[06:58] <ompaul> gnomefreak, cos write to the partition was not working
[06:58] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell DustyDingo about sudo
[06:58] <bosco> am i getting "unable to translate device /dev/sda5" any idea     in suspend 2 how do i fix it
[06:58] <dooglus> glacious: basically, just run that sudo command and it will do it for you, keeping the old version of gdm.conf in a .bak file
[06:58] <glacious> is there a quick way to enable your mouse in console?  (standard USB /w scrollwheel)
[06:59] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get ubuntu to boot up
[06:59] <gnomefreak> that cant be good :(
[06:59] <dooglus> glacious: ah, I see your problem :)
[06:59] <ompaul> gnomefreak, ubuntu blew it away for me, but the o/s that I had to install (a GNU/Linux one) did not
[06:59] <gnomefreak> ahhhhh
[06:59] <DustyDingo> gnomefreak: seems you must do it without bots help ;)
[07:00] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get ubuntu to boot up
[07:00] <DustyDingo> ah, querry bot
[07:00] <dooglus> glacious: if you want to do it by hand, replace /usr/X11R6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:00] <gnomefreak> DustyDingo, i can but that would defeat the purpose of having a bot in here
[07:00] <glacious> dooglus: i typed it all in.  no errors at least =)
[07:00] <glacious> dooglus: mad alt f1 / f2'ing =)
[07:00] <dooglus> heh
[07:00] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get ubuntu to boot up
[07:00] <nwops> Hey can anyone give me a hand with a source list problem
[07:00] <dooglus> glacious: what you should have done was edited your IRC log into a script and run the script
[07:01] <robin_> D= OOB
[07:01] <gnomefreak> not to mention im not gonna type up a page or 2 so you can read it if you can just click a link :)
[07:01] <glacious> dooglus: whoa there ;)    first things first.  i'll learn how to do that later
[07:01] <glacious> dooglus: lets see how this bad boy works
[07:01] <chicken-man> Can some one help me get ubuntu to boot up
[07:01] <robin_> D= OOB
[07:01] <robin_> D= OOB
[07:02] <robin_> D= hahsh
[07:02] <nwops>  Could not get lock /var/cache/apt/archives/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:02] <nwops> anyone know whats causing that error
[07:02] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, what is the problem
[07:02] <robin_> =D syug uoy era woh
[07:02] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: it halts at Hotplug Subsystem :(
[07:02] <gnomefreak> nwops, how many apt processes do you have running?
[07:02] <bosco> am i getting "unable to translate device /dev/sda5" any idea     in suspend 2 how do i fix it
[07:02] <glacious> dooglus: well, it runs.  i get the login screen... but it's just a blank brown background.  no image, no menus =)
[07:02] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, breezy?
[07:03] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: yep
[07:03] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, upgrade from hoary by chance?
[07:03] <bosco> breezy badger 1.5
[07:03] <robin_> D= ssa ham znwp siht
[07:03] <nwops> gnomefreak only 1
[07:03] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: no downloaded a burned the ISO last night
[07:03] <gnomefreak> bosco, no such thing
[07:03] <nwops> why wont it find stuff like php
[07:03] <robin_> ?woh era u syug, os
[07:03] <dooglus> glacious: the login screen is blank?  or after you put in your login and password it goes blank?
[07:03] <nwops> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=92672
[07:04] <nwops> i used that source list
[07:04] <robin_> os, woh era u syug?
[07:04] <gnomefreak> nwops, you dont have synaptic open and terminal running a sudo?
[07:04] <bosco> never mind i was up all night fogive me
[07:04] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  it just says package not found but I can see it in the folder and when I try to run updates I get an error message   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372
[07:04] <glacious> dooglus: after i login
[07:04] <glacious> dooglus: it's not blank. it has the default brown background and black mouse cursor.  just no desktop loads.
[07:05] <schalke> hi. Could anyone please help me one small with the followig problem: http://localhost:631/printers shows no installed printer instead of the CUPS-administration-tool, which tells me that there is a Brother DCP-8040 connected via network (ipp://usb:/dev/usb/lp0); there no physical printer behind this adress in my LAN. There is no way to delete the printer using the menu. Even a restart of cupsys and a complete uninstall and new install of
[07:05] <schalke> the CUPS-debs didn`t help. Is there perhaps a possibility to force deletion? thx in advance
[07:05] <nwops> ahhh man
[07:05] <nwops> ahh man
[07:05] <nwops> thx dude
[07:05] <nwops> heh thats what it was
[07:05] <nwops> ur the man
[07:05] <nwops> hey how come it wont find packages like php
[07:05] <dooglus> glacious: I've seen it before - having old processes hanging around can cause it.
[07:06] <chicken-man> Can some one help me boot ubuntu, I'm having problems with Hotplug Subsystem.
[07:06] <glacious> dooglus: so a reboot?  or just killall -9 some stuff? =)
[07:06] <ReDeemer> anyone know anything about modprobe?
[07:06] <dooglus> glacious: switch to a virtual terminal, and "killall -u glacious" to kill all your processes.  then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart"
[07:06] <gnomefreak> ITSa341, what are you trying to do?
[07:06] <bosco> just do a hard reboot
[07:07] <nwops> is there any sources out there with php
[07:07] <ReDeemer> /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.6   --ubuntu equivilant?
[07:07] <Dr_Willis> hard-reboot -> 'power cycle the device' :P ie: turn it off and back on.
[07:07] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  when I booted up this morning it said I had updates ready. I'm trying to let it apply them
[07:07] <kjcole> Hi.  Is there any place in IRC to get Dapper help?  I've been relatively successful keeping up with it, but this morning it went south with x-common vs. x11-common.
[07:07] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, hotplug is i think plug and play devices but dont quote me on that
[07:07] <ReDeemer> init 6 will work wont it?
[07:07] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: yes I know that USB devices :)
[07:08] <gnomefreak> ITSa341,  im not really sure im doing the updates on breezy now
[07:08] <nwops> !info cacti
[07:08] <ubotu> cacti: (Frontend to rrdtool for monitoring systems and services), section universe/web, is extra. Version: 0.8.6f-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 836 kB, Installed size: 3076 kB
[07:08] <chicken-man> Can some one help me boot ubuntu, I'm having problems with Hotplug Subsystem.
[07:09] <ITSa341> gnomefreak   I wonder if this and a few other new problems are related to a power failure yesterday during the ice storms
[07:09] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, more than likely its not recognizing one of the devices so i would start with unplugging them and rebooting
[07:09] <nwops> !info php
[07:09] <dwerf> anybody got experience with vnc?
[07:09] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  yes. :P and its mentioned a lot in the forum threads as well
[07:09] <gnomefreak> ITSa341, is that the only update that isnt installing?
[07:10] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, also to get started?
[07:10] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: tryed that, also tryed disableing the USB controler from BIOS
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  works fine for me.
[07:10] <ITSa341> there are 3 of them. All related to kernel-image and kernel-headers
[07:10] <gnomefreak> wish konsole would hurry up :(
[07:10] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  i had to fix a 'font fixed' issue.
[07:10] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, it could be a bad spot in iso or cd
[07:11] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, yes, but I'm not a very advanced user
[07:11] <nwops> whast apaches default webroot
[07:11] <nwops> when its installed from apt
[07:11] <nwops> is ti /var/www
[07:11] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: I don't think so it's a new DVD-R I burned it to
[07:11] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, for instance, how do I check for the IP of an Ubuntu system?
[07:11] <nwops> ifconfig
[07:11] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  ifconfig command :P
[07:12] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, ok, that's cool
[07:12] <nwops> whast apaches default webroot on an ubuntu box
[07:12] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, you could have burned it on too hight of a speed or during the copying of packages something could have gone wacky
[07:12] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: I burned it on 16x, the CD is fine
[07:12] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, i just type the IP of the host in the tiny little box and press enter?
[07:12] <glacious> ok back
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> normally ip:desktop
[07:13] <glacious> dooglus: i rebooted, and desktop works fine =)  just gotta try to get it to run @ 75hz instead of 85, so my monitor gets this error off the screen
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> ie: 192.168.1.100:1
[07:13] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: I'll try a base instal maybe, but I know this is not to do with the DVD
[07:13] <bipolar> glacious: sorry. I was afk. did you find a solution yet?
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  or it may even take its name. if your dns/hosts stuff is set right.
[07:13] <glacious> bipolar: yes.  it works now with the dapper update.  thank you.
[07:13] <bipolar> glacious: cool. np.
[07:13] <gnomefreak> chicken-man, did you bun it on cd or dvd?
[07:13] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, and if no host is found, no message is given?
[07:13] <glacious> bipolar: just need to fix the refresh, which has been the biggest problem.  no changed to xorg.conf does anything.
[07:14] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: DVD I have no CD's
[07:14] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  it normally pops up some message.
[07:14] <gnomefreak> chicken-man,  you keep saying cd so you were confusing me
[07:14] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: lol
[07:14] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, hmmm, it doesn't for me
[07:14] <dwerf> could it take a while?
[07:15] <gnomefreak> im thinking dvd image and cd image are different
[07:15] <bipolar> glacious: the video refresh rate?
[07:15] <bipolar> glacious: I can't help there. I have all lcd's
[07:15] <chicken-man> gnomefreak: well the installer runs and copy packages fine
[07:15] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  on a home lan - its just a moment or 2. could be some sort of firewall/port blocking going on. You DO have a vncserver running on the remote box?
[07:15] <glacious> bipolar: me too.
[07:16] <bipolar> glacious: whats the problem with the refresh rate then?
[07:16] <atie> anyone could tell me when latest X on Dapper will be fixed?
[07:16] <glacious> bipolar: but it's outputting 85hz to the LCD which is too high, it wants like 60, so it auto-throttles back (the monitor does), and displays an error over my desktop constantly
[07:16] <gnomefreak> atie, seeing as it just broke today give it time
[07:16] <dwerf> Dr_Willis, well the remote host had ticked the proper boxes under System > Preferences > Remote Desktop
[07:16] <bipolar> glacious: ahhh... dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and tell it you have an lcd, I think.
[07:17] <ortner_> whats the command line for unzip bz2?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  i NEVER use that feature. :P  i ssh to the remote and manually run vncserver.
[07:17] <dooglus> bunzip2
[07:17] <gnomefreak> stifile a bug if there isnt one already filed
[07:17] <bipolar> glacious: usualy the lcd tells X though the video card what it's native res is and the X server uses that.
[07:17] <gnomefreak> atie, ^^^
[07:17] <topyli> ortner: tar xjvf <file.tar.bz2> if it's a tarball
[07:17] <dwerf> yes but the guy on the other side is a nOOb
[07:17] <atie> gnomefreak, i'm in irssi so just hang in here?
[07:17] <EvilDucky> Seveas, do you know if the Dapper x-server pkgs are stil b0rkt?
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  it may be poping up a message box on the remote saying "do you want to allow XXX to connect"  ect.. never tried it.
[07:18] <radical> salut a tous
[07:18] <gnomefreak> EvilDucky, yes they are
[07:18] <dooglus> topyli: easier to just 'tar xf tarfile.tar.bz2'
[07:18] <Dr_Willis> dwerf,  or there may be somthing else that needs to be done. (i dont use that feature, so i cant tell you any more)
[07:18] <dwerf> ok thanx
[07:18] <EvilDucky> gnomefreak, and is there a workaround?
[07:18] <dwerf> ciao
[07:18] <dooglus> EvilDucky: they're good now.
[07:18] <escapist> hello all
[07:18] <topyli> dooglus: that won't bunzip2 it
[07:18] <chicken-man> Can someone tell me how to bypass the Hotplug Subsystem
[07:18] <escapist> anyone had any luck running ubuntu off a USB HD?
[07:18] <topyli> dooglus: or maybe it will?
[07:18] <dooglus> topyli: wanna bet?
[07:19] <glacious> bipolar: ok, i'll try that.  it detects my monitor and video card by name, i thought it'd do the trick.  it defaults to native resolution too 1280x1024.
[07:19] <topyli> dooglus: maybe i'm outdated :)
[07:19] <gnomefreak> EvilDucky, not that i have found yet but give them time to fix it if they even have the bug yet
[07:19] <Seveas> chicken-man, upgrade to dapper, they surgically removed hotplug there :)
[07:19] <CVirus> how can i delete all the info that are fetched when i do "sudo apt-get update" ... inorder to run it again .. there seems to be a problem
[07:19] <dooglus> topyli: unzip, bunzip2, whatever, magically :)
[07:19] <gnomefreak> lol Seveas
[07:19] <adub> this is definitely an off the wall question but i simply dont know where to go to ask but how in linux would i make a .cue file from a bin file to make it burnable
[07:19] <chicken-man> Seveas: cool but is it stable ?
[07:19] <Seveas> CVirus, sudo rm /var/lib/apt/lists/*ubuntu*
[07:20] <gnomefreak> lol
[07:20] <ReDeemer>  I have ubuntu.  I installed the latest nvidia drivers.  Everything works after 1 reboot. After the second, X fails to load
[07:20] <escapist> i need to move my ubuntu partition off my laptops hard drive onto an external drive, and i want it to still work.  what's the best way to copy an entire partition?  anything in particular i should watch out for?
[07:20] <gnomefreak> no not even close
[07:20] <mwe> glacious: if dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg fixes it please tell what it did to xorg.conf that fixed
[07:20] <Seveas> chicken-man, not yet
[07:20] <chicken-man> Seveas: ok, can you give me a Link to the ISO
[07:20] <glacious> mwe: ok
[07:20] <dooglus> gnomefreak: what's broken in dapper's X?
[07:20] <glacious> mwe: i got a friends xorg.conf file, it had 1280x1024@75hz  <-- specified like that.  tried that as well, no luck.
[07:21] <atie> dooglus: it says there is no X
[07:21] <glacious> what is the 4 button + scroll mouse?
[07:21] <glacious> ImPS? Explorer?
[07:21] <Seveas> chicken-man, cdimage.ubuntu.com
[07:21] <chicken-man> No X :-0
[07:21] <Seveas> look for dapper flight 3
[07:21] <EvilDucky> "GDM: Xserver not found: /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib <C-Rtn/LF>Error:Command could not be executed! <C-Rtn/LF>Please install the X server or correct GDM configuration and restart GDM"
[07:21] <dooglus> atie: you need to edit gdm.conf, but then it works
[07:21] <gnomefreak> dooglus, i wanna say its the core package for it breaks the /var/xserve/blah blah blah file
[07:21] <gnomefreak> i cant remember what the path is
[07:21] <topyli> dooglus: that's right, no X. it has been replaced by a brain sensor interface
[07:21] <EvilDucky> What about trying KDMor XDM ?
[07:21] <glacious> EvilDucky: hah, i JUST went through that.  using dapper?
[07:21] <mwe> glacious: I think imps will work. the extra buttons wont by default though
[07:21] <EvilDucky> glacious, 'trying to use' Dapper
[07:21] <dooglus> to fix dapper's X, replace /usr/X11R6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:22] <gnomefreak> and you cant open the reconfigure xserver to change setting it wont let you] 
[07:22] <glacious> EvilDucky: ahh.  don't if you don't have to =)
[07:22] <EvilDucky> exactly
[07:22] <SuperLag> How do you boot the CD and disable framebuffer for the install process?
[07:22] <atie> dooglus: I'll try it thx
[07:22] <EvilDucky> I wish they's only break one part at a time
[07:22] <EvilDucky> lol
[07:22] <SuperLag> the options listed on the CD aren't working, or I'm getting the syntax wrong :/
[07:23] <mwe> SuperLag: the help (f1) tells you. sth with framebuffer=false
[07:23] <chris_117> is it possible to set up Ubuntu so typing in my IP address is the same as typing in localhost?
[07:23] <jbrouhard> anyone here have luck installing Ubuntu on a Dell PowerEdge 6400 ??
[07:24] <glacious> isn't it true that LCD's have no 'refresh' rate?
[07:24] <qsrv> hi
[07:24] <SuperLag> mwe: do you pass that arg after 'linux' ?  i.e. linux framebuffer=false?
[07:24] <tracy_> hi, i installed kubuntu desktop last night and its pretty cool, although now i cant launch the login screen configureator. it asks me for my password but wont launch.
[07:24] <glacious> like with CRT's, a low refresh will make it blink and hurt your eyes.  LCD's are chill on the eyes, no 'real' refresh rate.
[07:24] <mwe> SuperLag: I had to because the fb just gave me a black screen
[07:24] <jin> hey anyone good with multiple disks here?  i have 4 hard drives, but the last 2 are in NTFS format and are not coming up in my storage media, how do i access them without formating???? (they have critical data)
[07:24] <SuperLag> mwe: same here
[07:24] <mwe> SuperLag: please read the help. I dont remember exactly
[07:24] <mwe> SuperLag: just read the help it says how
[07:24] <qsrv> I've got a strange problem: gnome does not start on breezy
[07:25] <qsrv> when I login through gdm
[07:25] <SuperLag> mwe: yeah, and it doesn't work
[07:25] <tracy_> has this happened to anyone else?
[07:25] <mwe> SuperLag: well it did here. I think you must have done it wrong
[07:25] <SuperLag> mwe: it days debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[07:25] <qsrv> all I see is the background colour (brown) and no further activity
[07:25] <mwe> SuperLag: yeah
[07:25] <SuperLag> mwe: passing that line at boot: gives me an error
[07:25] <jin> hey anyone good with multiple disks here?  i have 4 hard drives, but the last 2 are in NTFS format and are not coming up in my storage media, how do i access them without formating???? (they have critical data)
[07:25] <glacious> meh.  dexconf: command not found.  it can't even rewrite my xorg config file =(
[07:25] <mwe> SuperLag: don't you need a space there somewhere?
[07:26] <mwe> SuperLag: you need linux before that
[07:26] <sampan> tracy_, do you mean, when you click "administrator mode" and input your password, it's still greyed out?
[07:26] <qsrv> where should I start looking for clues?
[07:26] <atie> bye for a while, reboot now.
[07:26] <mwe> SuperLag: linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false or sth
[07:26] <_jason> qsrv: try a different user.  Has it loaded before?
[07:27] <qsrv> yes
[07:27] <celenk> Hi I'm having a problem I hope someone can help me with:  I installed Ubuntu recently, and then even more recently re-installed Windows.  The problem seems to be, now GRUB doesn't give me a choice, it boots into Windows by default, but then the screen hangs black.  Does anyone know why this is, and a solution to fix it?
[07:27] <selinium> I have my /home folder on a seperate drive, do i need to partition this drive if I want to place /www on the same drive?
[07:27] <qsrv> t worked fine until today
[07:27] <EvilDucky> !uboto Dapper is D.A.P.P.E.R. <==: (D)raconian (A)frican (P)eople (P)rogramming  (E)rrors in (R)epositories
[07:27] <ubotu> okay, EvilDucky
[07:27] <tracy_> sampan, no, im trying to change the login screen. i click on settings/login screen setup and it dosent run. it asks me for my pw, i put it in, the icon is displayed with an hourglass but then nothing happens.
[07:27] <EvilDucky> !Dapper
[07:27] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[07:27] <_jason> qsrv: try a different user and see if you can login.
[07:27] <glacious> why would dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg NOT be able to write the config file?  it errored out at the end when it went to write it.
[07:27] <mjr> selinium, no, you can symlink it to, say, /home/www
[07:27] <_jason> glacious: sudo?
[07:27] <sampan> tracy_  hrmmm ... have you updated your system since installing kubuntu?
[07:27] <mjr> selinium, sudo ln -s home/www /
[07:27] <mwe> celenk: I not sure if windows is broken. if it's a grub problem, read !grub
[07:28] <bi0nic> how do i check if i have 3d acceleration worked out?
[07:28] <glacious> jason_: logged in as root
[07:28] <mwe> !tell celenk about grub
[07:28] <tracy_> sampan, you mean sudo apt-get upgrade and dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <cdubya> anyone have any experience here writing your own ppd file for a printer to use with ubuntu?
[07:28] <selinium> mjr: I want the /www to be on the non OS drive. would your solution do this?
[07:28] <mwe> bi0nic: glxinfo|grep direct
[07:29] <sampan> tracy_ the upgrade yeah ... dist-upgrade isn't likely to be necessary.  there was a bug in original kubuntu release with GUI admin apps ... so updating (esp. for kde packages) might solve your problem
[07:29] <mwe> bi0nic: it will show if direct rendering is working
[07:29] <glacious> _jason: err yeah, logged in as root.
[07:29] <bi0nic> mwe: says no.. I will try the fglrx drivers then :)
[07:29] <bi0nic> thanks
[07:30] <tracy_> sampan, 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[07:30] <sampan> :/
[07:30] <tracy_> it dosent even work in gnome
[07:30] <glacious> what the heck is dexconf?  dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg needs it to write my config file and can't find it.
[07:31] <_jason> glacious: dexconf (1)          - generate XFree86 X server configuration file from debconf data
[07:31] <mwe> bi0nic: it wont work without them
[07:31] <moodog> evening all
[07:31] <wdh> Question here: i have a usbdisk which used to be automatically mounted when i plug it in. For some time now, however, it doesnt get mounted anymore. It does show up at /dev/sda and when mounted manually it works just fine.. any ideas on this anyone?
[07:31] <glacious> _jason: how do i get it installed?
[07:31] <DustyDingo> hm, does ubuntu64 support the amd X2 processor by default?
[07:31] <qsrv> strange
[07:32] <glacious> _jason: apt-get doesn't have dexconf
[07:32] <bi0nic> mwe: that explains alot :)
[07:32] <DustyDingo> cat /proc/cpuinfo shows me only one CPU running
[07:32] <qsrv> I just let it sit there for a minute and it (gnome) started up
[07:32] <SuperLag> mwe: linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false did the trick.  Thanks dude.
[07:32] <mwe> SuperLag: np
[07:32] <_jason> glacious: belongs to 'xserver-common'
[07:32] <mwe> bi0nic: read !ati
[07:32] <_jason> glacious: are you on dapper or something?
[07:32] <mwe> !tell bi0nic about ati
[07:32] <tracy_> sampan, all i need to do is change the screen resolution on the login screen setup. is there another way around it?
[07:32] <glacious> _jason: yes
[07:32] <glacious> _jason: and i *have* to me.  SATA controller issues.
[07:32] <qsrv> now another problem: evolution takes forever to download emails. Like a couple of minutes. and it reports the number of message incorrectly
[07:33] <glacious> _jason: err have to be.
[07:33] <ortner_> how to i move a file? mv?
[07:33] <_jason> glacious: you should just not do updates as soon as they come out
[07:33] <bi0nic> appreciate it mwe
[07:33] <mips> n #ubuntuforums
[07:33] <gnomefreak> glacious, the fix for X on dapper is above doogles posted it
[07:33] <sampan> tracy_  probably there's a config file you can edit.  but i'm not sure.  we see the admin bug a lot in #kubuntu so i chimed in.  you might try asking there for kde-specific help though
[07:34] <glacious> gnomefreak: i know, i used it and it works.  this is another issue with X now i'm finding.
[07:34] <glacious> gnomefreak: has to do with the autoconfigure portion.
[07:34] <tracy_> sampan, i was not aware of a kubuntu channel. thank you.
[07:34] <gnomefreak> glacious, you need to replace/usr/x11r6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[07:34] <gnomefreak> ahhhhhh
[07:34] <gimmulf> Is there any good irc proxies to use out there?
[07:34] <idefix_> Nalioth you awake again?
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  good for 'what' use.
[07:35] <nalioth> idefix_: yessir
[07:35] <glacious> gnomefreak: i did that.  this is another issue.
[07:35] <gimmulf> Dr_Willis:  dont want to show my real host
[07:35] <glacious> gnomefreak: the issue above is just to get it running.  it runs, but i can't autoconfigure it.
[07:35] <idefix_> nalioth what program were we trying to install yesterday again?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,   this server can hide it - if requested. but its over kill paranoia.
[07:36] <nalioth> idefix_: that was yesterday, i don't remember.
[07:36] <morphix> what can i use for .rar files ?
[07:36] <gimmulf> Dr_Willis:  i really want to :) is it hard?
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  some how you can request a generic hostname or similer.
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[07:36] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[07:36] <idefix_> nalioth brlcad I just discovered
[07:36] <rockhound`> hey guys, i have a problem logging in with the root account, i'm getting this message:The system administrator is not allowed to login from this screen
[07:36] <Dr_Willis> gimmulf,  no idea. i dont consider it worth the effort.
[07:36] <gimmulf> ok
[07:36] <idefix_> nalioth how come it is so much harder to install than qcad?
[07:36] <rockhound`> any1 knows what that means?
[07:37] <rockhound`> i can login with a normal account
[07:37] <nalioth> idefix_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[07:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell rockhound` about root
[07:37] <Dr_Willis> rockhound`,  you enabled the root password?
[07:37] <nalioth> rockhound`: the root account is disabled in ubuntu for a reason.
[07:37] <nalioth> rockhound`: read the info ubotu linked you to, please
[07:39] <atie> yes, just modified gdm.conf is working
[07:39] <glacious> ahhh.  this is retarded.  the refresh rate will NOT change in xorg no matter what i change.
[07:39] <highonthechronic> hai
[07:39] <highonthechronic> help please with installing ubuntu (breezy i think)
[07:39] <rockhound`> thnx nalioth
[07:39] <highonthechronic> on my p2 350mhz 64mb
[07:39] <mwe> glacious: it's really weird
[07:39] <glacious> my monitor works, it just keeps displaying an error that the mode isn't supported, and shows the desktop behind the error.  there HAS to be a way to force one refresh.
[07:39] <highonthechronic> when i install base system, i get stuck on 8% while installing 'laptop-detect'
[07:40] <highonthechronic> any suggestions? ;/
[07:40] <sTo0z> Can anyone point me in the right direction for authenticating an ubuntu user off of active directory?
[07:41] <scanwinder> I installed drivers for my graphics card earlier(radeon 9200SE) and now, when i go to open xawtv, i get fontset errors, can someone help me fix it? i put the errors on pastebin - http://pastebin.com/513353
[07:41] <slavik> does the ubuntu server installation not install dev tools? (make, gcc, etc.)
[07:42] <morphix> slavik, unfortunately not
[07:42] <morphix> just apt-get them
[07:42] <slavik> also, where would I find a deb package for firefox 1.5? (1.0.7 seems to be the latest in the repositories)
[07:42] <glacious> and in order to install xserver-common to get the xserver autoconfigure ot run, i have to DOWNgrade like 20 packages.
[07:42] <_jason> slavik: install buil-essential
[07:42] <_jason> slavik: install build-essential I mean
[07:42] <slavik> I did, the problem is that g++ was not aliased (anjuta uses it for c++ stuff)
[07:43] <glacious> dapper,now -> dapper
[07:43] <slavik> _jason: that's the package name?
[07:43] <glacious> not cool.
[07:43] <sTo0z> hmm is ubuntu not working with active directory at the moment?
[07:43] <morphix> slavik, !firefox1.5
[07:43] <_jason> slavik: yeah
[07:43] <morphix> do that
[07:43] <slavik> morphix: so, then I'd have to build it from source, I guess.
[07:44] <morphix> um no.. there is an installer for it
[07:44] <scanwinder> does anyone know howto sort out fontset errors?
[07:44] <scanwinder> im getting Warning: Missing charsets in String to FontSet conversion
[07:44] <scanwinder> Warning: Unable to load any usable fontset
[07:44] <slavik> _jason: does it set up all the proper aliases? (g++ and such)
[07:44] <slavik> morphix: there is? where?
[07:44] <_jason> slavik: yes, should
[07:44] <slavik> thanks _jason
[07:44] <HapS> http://www.ubuntu-tr.com :)
[07:47] <pkern> How could I change the Gnome mixer controlled by the media keys to use my second soundcard? Using Preferences > Sound does not work (just for system sounds, not for the outer mixer).
[07:47] <qsrv> hasn't anybody had problems with evolution ? For me it just shows the dialog for transferring messages, reports worng numbers of messages and does nothing after that
[07:47] <qsrv> i can't even cancel the transfers
[07:51] <sircolin> hi
[07:51] <glacious> is there any possible way that xorg uses another config file besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf (for resolutions and refresh rates?)  everything i do, changes nothing in xorg/gnome.
[07:51] <DustyDingo> again, does ubunti for 64bit supports the amd X2 by default?
[07:51] <glacious> i can not get the refresh rate to change from 85 for any reason.
[07:52] <glacious> possibly an ATI driver issue in dapper?
[07:52] <sircolin> I know this is the wrong channel to be asking for help in for ipcop but the community is ace and well I thought you guys might be able to help me out a bit
[07:52] <mirak> hi
[07:52] <pkern> DustyDingo: It should detect any backwards compatible AMD64 CPU.
[07:53] <wftl> Is there any use for the About Me dialog (gnome-about-me) other than changing your password? Is the information there actually used anywhere else?
[07:53] <mirak> I have a logitech quickcam pro 5000, someone told me it was supported, but there is no module loaded
[07:53] <pkern> DustyDingo: Yes, it's listed for Breezy
[07:53] <Watje> Can anyone please help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7377
[07:54] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping ping
[07:54] <DustyDingo> pkern: well, /proc/cpuinfo only detects one core :(
[07:54] <pkern> DustyDingo: You need a SMP kernel
[07:54] <pkern> pkern: Does uname -a say "SMP" anywhere?
[07:55] <pkern> DustyDingo: If not install linux-amd64-k8-smp
[07:55] <DustyDingo> pkern: ah, your intention was right
[07:56] <DustyDingo> - intention + assumption :)
[07:57] <nwops> anyone a cactiuser in here?
[07:57] <DustyDingo> pkern: i really should read more on those issues before starting
[07:57] <DustyDingo> i had to know this
[07:57] <Marlun> Can I install flash for firefox through Synaptic?
[07:58] <Pygi> !firefoxplugins
[07:58] <ubotu> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.5
[07:58] <secureboot> anyone know how to install ubuntu over a serial console?
[07:58] <dougsko> hi guys
[07:59] <zAo^> forum down agian??
[07:59] <dougsko> anyone know how to get com port1 working? im trying to connect my ti-89
[07:59] <ortner_> does anyine use teamspeak to ubuntu? i have a problem that my mic dosent work. i can hear the others
[07:59] <DustyDingo> Marlun: Marlun consider gplflash and gnash too
[08:00] <Marlun> flashplayer-mozilla is not available in the respositories, so I can't do what that wiki says..?
[08:00] <setuid> My fight with Ubuntu continues... why do manual changes to grub's menu.lst get completely clobbered on the next boot?
[08:00] <BxL> !source-o-matic
[08:00] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:00] <trappist> atie: don't do that
[08:01] <glacious> sooo, how come when i do aptitude -f install, it removes lynx that i just installed a little while ago?
[08:01] <_jason> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[08:01] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[08:01] <_jason> Marlun: it's in multiverse, have you enabled it?
[08:01] <arrinmurr> setuid: did you run grub-install ?
[08:02] <cybernmd> hello
[08:02] <setuid> arrinmurr: nope, never... grub was installed, working fine, and I customized it.
[08:02] <setuid> Next boot, it was all clobbered
[08:02] <arrinmurr> setuid: you must run grub-install every time you change something
[08:02] <setuid> Why?
[08:02] <setuid> That's non-standard, and Debian never required that
[08:02] <ceceece> !grub
[08:02] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:03] <setuid> Did Ubuntu break grub to require that assinine option?
[08:03] <setuid> I'm getting a little pissed at how RedHat-like Ubuntu is becoming... changing things for no logical reason.
[08:03] <gleesond> is the next version of kubuntu going to have kde 4
[08:04] <arrinmurr> setuid: hmm? well, that's how i have done i've always done it. in debian too...
[08:04] <trappist> setuid: it is pretty lame.  I'd use lilo if I wanted that behavior.
[08:04] <setuid> arrinmurr: in 7+ years of running the same Debian build, updated weekly, with about 500 different kernels tested on it, I've *NEVER* had to run grub-install, ever. Not even once.
[08:04] <setuid> Once grub is installed on the mbr, there is no reason to run it again, even when you add/remove new kernels
[08:05] <yohan> anyone here using fbpanel? Anyone know how to change the pager size?
[08:05] <cybernmd> a quick question, i am experimenting with compiling a kernel from scratch and i have been getting kernel panics after i boot. I do not use any ram disks while booting, should i?
[08:05] <setuid> cybernmd: no, not needed
[08:05] <sethk> arrinmurr, setuid is quite correct.  In fact, a huge advantage of grub over lilo is that you can simply change the config file
[08:05] <cybernmd> kernel panics when trying to work with filesystems
[08:05] <arrinmurr> setuid: ok. maybe i've just understood it wrong then.
[08:06] <setuid> cybernmd: sounds like you missed a critical fs as monolithic
[08:06] <sethk> cybernmd, the reason for using an initrd (initial ram disk) is if kernel support for your filesystem is not part of your kernel binary
[08:06] <trappist> cybernmd: if you don't use an initrd you need to make sure everything required to mount your root fs is builtin, not a module
[08:06] <zandaa> can anyone help me???
[08:06] <sethk> cybernmd, that is, if the file system support is a modules
[08:06] <cybernmd> aha!
[08:06] <ReDeemer> having nvidia issues..drivers are working now..but if I reboot..X will not start
[08:06] <zandaa> I'm having some problems with firefox
[08:06] <setuid> Ok, why did the Ubuntu packagers break util-linux and cryptsetup?
[08:06] <cybernmd> i included ext3 and ext2 now
[08:06] <glacious> so, i think it's time to quit on Ubuntu for a while on this machine.  the refresh will never change =(.
[08:06] <cybernmd> recompiling...
[08:06] <setuid> # echo MySecretPassword | cryptsetup create UltraBay /dev/hdc1
[08:06] <setuid> Command failed: Invalid argument
[08:06] <setuid> grrr
[08:06] <cheloo> hi all
[08:07] <Watje> Can anyone please help me with this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7377
[08:07] <setuid> Yet another place where Debian worked flawlessly and Ubuntu is broken
[08:07] <zandaa> how do I change my locale?
[08:07] <aLeSD> I compiled the kernel by hands but it says me kernel panic canno mount root /dev/hda3 or unknow block (0,0). Someone could help me?
[08:07] <glacious> setuid: sounds like you should go back to debian.
[08:07] <setuid> glacious: I'm about to
[08:07] <setuid> Ubuntu is for eye-candy desktop users, not developers or power-users apparently
[08:07] <xolotl_> hola
[08:08] <glacious> setuid: either that, or learn how to configure your programs properly.  or spell your commands correctly =)
[08:08] <pkern> glacious: Probably it's detected automatically by X11? Just check the net.
[08:08] <aLeSD> setuid: yeah . I think soo
[08:08] <setuid> glacious: My commands and programs are fine..
[08:08] <setuid> glacious: Care to point out any errors you assert I'm making here?
[08:08] <scanwinder> I installed my graphics card drivers and now, when i try to open xawtv, the screen goes blank and i have to switch to another console(ctrl>alt>F-key) and back to the one with X to get graphical again, anyone know how to resolve this?
[08:08] <glacious> setuid: if you say so =)  good luck.
[08:08] <cybernmd> aleSD: i am working on the same problem right now
[08:08] <pkern> setuid: Well, at least it's for persons who just want it to run. I had the least configuration and stability problems (when upgrading) with Ubuntu, compared e.g. to Gentoo.
[08:09] <cybernmd> if after recompile it boots, i will let you know how to fix this
[08:09] <glacious> pkern: i've spent hours in here trying to change it.  xorg/gnome are stubborn in dapper atm.   no modification of any kind to xorg.conf would change the resolution or refresh list.
[08:09] <Goshawk> i've problem running reprepro, is there somebody here that can help me?
[08:09] <aLeSD> cybernmd: thanks
[08:09] <setuid> pkern: As long as you don't tweak or touch it after the install, Ubuntu works great.
[08:09] <bosco> am i getting "unable to translate device /dev/sda5" any idea     in suspend 2 how do i fix it
[08:09] <aLeSD> cybernmd: whait a moment
[08:09] <xolotl_> !todos
[08:09] <ubotu> xolotl_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[08:10] <aLeSD> cybernmd: do u have raiserfs root device
[08:10] <aLeSD> ?
[08:10] <mwe> setuid: I tweaked it plenty. still works great
[08:10] <zAo^> anyone who tried Xgl?
[08:10] <btdown> Anyone else having probs getting to ubuntuforums?
[08:11] <setuid> mwe: Humor me, run the following command in /tmp (its safe, man 1 cryptsetup if you're not sure): echo MySecretPassword | cryptsetup create test /dev/hda1
[08:11] <blenda> how do i turn on the noapic option in grub?
[08:11] <trappist> is it STILL down?
[08:11] <aLeSD> cybernmd: r u here?
[08:11] <sTo0z> i can't get on them either
[08:11] <sTo0z> so i guess so ;)
[08:11] <setuid> mwe: Use any device you wish there, it doesn't write to it, just creates a mapping in /dev/mapper
[08:11] <btdown> Ah ok...wanted to make sure it wasnt me. ;) thans.
[08:11] <Simo_Bo> anyone know how to remove some items from System menu in gnome panel?
[08:11] <setuid> mwe: I'm one of 1,590 people with the same issue, unsolved so far
[08:12] <mwe> setuid: I don't use that
[08:12] <cheloo> Writing Makefile for Net::IP
[08:12] <cheloo>     -- NOT OK
[08:12] <cheloo> Running make test
[08:12] <cheloo> any ideea why perl its not working proper.. ?
[08:12] <cheloo> i try to install "Net::DNS"
[08:13] <setuid> cheloo: perl -MCPAN -e 'install "Net::DNS"'
[08:13] <cheloo> so i run "  perl -MCPAN -e shell " then install Net::DNS
[08:13] <cheloo> lol
[08:13] <cheloo> yeah i know
[08:13] <cheloo> aint working
[08:13] <Simo_Bo> I mean items like "Lock Screen", "Administration" menu, etc...
[08:13] <setuid> cheloo: satisfy the dependencies it barks on
[08:13] <trappist> cheloo: just sudo apt-get install libnet-ip-perl libnet-dns-perl
[08:13] <setuid> cheloo: go into ~/.cpan/build/Net-DNS-whatever and build it manually
[08:14] <mx-r> anyone ever experienced DNS problems with ubuntu? got correct nameservers in resolv.conf but does not work can only ping domains of my ISP
[08:14] <cheloo> setuid well none of the perl modules i want to install works ;)
[08:14] <setuid> cheloo: sounds like a bug in your perl
[08:14] <aLeSD> cybernmd: ho trovato!!! credo
[08:14] <aLeSD> cybernmd: I found it...
[08:14] <trappist> mx-r: sounds like dns issues with your isp
[08:14] <cheloo> setuid  already the secound one in 2 days of ubuntu
[08:14] <cheloo> hmmmm
[08:14] <trappist> mx-r: see if it works with 4.2.2.2 as your nameserver
[08:14] <cheloo> doesnt sounds good
[08:14] <mx-r> trappist - working in windows right now.
[08:15] <mx-r> trappist - dns here is fine
[08:15] <aLeSD> cybernmd: if u don't use init you have to insert the fs module in the kernel ext2 and raiserfs for me
[08:15] <smuggs> ReDeemer, what seems to be your problem
[08:15] <ReDeemer> Yo..my nvidia drivers work until I reboot my machine...then X will not start
[08:15] <cheloo> Can't exec "make": No such file or directory at Makefile.PL line 194.
[08:15] <cheloo> lol , looks like make its not installed
[08:15] <cheloo> :)
[08:15] <trappist> cheloo: well you have to apt-get install build-essential to build much of anything
[08:16] <trappist> cheloo: also the vast majority of all cpan modules are available as packages
[08:16] <ceceece> how do you re-install grub to MBR?
[08:16] <mx-r> trappist - do you know if it could be anything wirless related? today i was workin on a different network with wpa and it was fine. went home, i have wpa2 here, get ip, get dns but can only access thru ip
[08:16] <gverig> Is there a way to install current Ubuntu "in-the-works" release?
[08:16] <zandaa> can anyone help me with something?
[08:16] <setuid> sigh
[08:16] <yohan> anyone here using fbpanel? Anyone know how to change the pager size?
[08:16] <trappist> mx-r: I'd say it could be, yeah
[08:17] <afief> How can i run WMV files on linux?
[08:17] <cheloo> trappist right . so apt-get install build-essential its  41.9MB   , should i got for it ?
[08:17] <cheloo> trappist hell yeah i need that stuff
[08:17] <gverig> afief: I think mplayer plays some of those
[08:17] <cheloo> trappist cheers
[08:17] <tyler> anyone here is currently in san francisco or san jose?
[08:17] <setuid> afief: mplayer, xine
[08:17] <trappist> cheloo: if you insist on building stuff yourself that you could just apt-get, yes, it's required
[08:17] <trappist> !tell afief about w32codecs
[08:17] <cheloo> trappist are all the perl modules available via apt ?
[08:18] <afief> setuid: but it plays very buggy, the whole thing is messy
[08:18] <Tortoose> hi everybody, beagle is a broken package right now (dapper) isn't it ?
[08:18] <CarinArr> is there a way to list all incoming internet connections?
[08:18] <trappist> cheloo: 13:16 <trappist> cheloo: also the vast majority of all cpan modules are available as packages
[08:18] <afief> and quicktime is about the same
[08:18] <MeWhOeLsE> ok... gota ll my network problems sorted out... one problem now... everytime I restart my computer the network autoconfigures itself to the worng settings... (the DNS is wrong) how can I stope this autoconfiguring???
[08:18] <cheloo> trappist ups, nice
[08:18] <trappist> afief: see what uboto msged you
[08:19] <trappist> CarinArr: check out netstat
[08:19] <CarinArr> thanks
[08:20] <mx-r> trappist - i have this wpa supplicant for my ipw2200. maybe the config file should look different? currently i have tkip set there and just changed wpa to wpa2. maybe there has to be something more if my router uses TKIP + AES. but its strange anyways, hence i changed on my router from wpa2 to wpa and it did not work either (dns i mean)
[08:20] <trappist> CarinArr: like sudo netstat -ntalp
[08:20] <gverig> So, is there a way to install Dapper? Or is it only for beta testers?
[08:20] <CarinArr> trappist, thanks, found what i needed;)
[08:20] <trappist> mx-r: I don't know anything about wpa supplicant
[08:21] <mx-r> trappist - ok, thanks anyway. will try to ggl
[08:21] <Noah> Hi,erverbody
[08:21] <ceceece> how do you re-install grub to MBR?
[08:21] <cybernmd> reboootinh
[08:21] <cybernmd> damn it
[08:21] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[08:22] <cybernmd> VFS: Cannot open root device "sda1" or unknown-block(0,0). Please append a correct "root=" boot option
[08:22] <cybernmd> could someone decipher this for me?
[08:22] <MeWhOeLsE> any ideas? I presume i'm jsut missing some obvious setting?
[08:22] <gverig> ceceece: Don't you just install GRUB on the device? If you do this I think it goes into MBR
[08:23] <ceceece> gverig, how?  I've tried grub-install /dev/hda
[08:23] <scanwinder> is there to make an environment variable permenant?
[08:24] <peter__> hi
[08:24] <gverig> ceceece: Hmm, I though it should work that way...
[08:24] <scanwinder> *i mean is there a way to make an environment variable permanent?
[08:24] <peter__> hey, i have an problem with the change of my resolution
[08:24] <sethk> cybernmd, missing file system support, which I think we already told you about
[08:24] <peter__> when i change to a bigger, from a smaller, ther is no realy change
[08:25] <peter__> just the area is bigger
[08:25] <peter__> and i have to scroll now -_-
[08:25] <gaurav> hello users
[08:25] <cybernmd> yep, i have added ext3 support to the kernel
[08:25] <gaurav> how r u
[08:25] <cybernmd> hmmm... more tinkering ;)
[08:25] <gaz_> in nautalus anyone know where the option is to set the current view settings as the default for all folders?
[08:26] <gverig> ceceece: IIRC if you set /dev/hda is should install into MBR and if you do /dev/hda0 it should install into partition. But it's been a while...
[08:26] <peter__> can anybody help me :-)
[08:26] <sethk> peter__, you are changing the virtual resolution, not the real resolution
[08:26] <trappist> scanwinder: add export VAR=value to, for example, your .bashrc
[08:26] <SuperLag> how nice.
[08:26] <dooglus> scanwinder: set it in ~/.gnomerc
[08:26] <sethk> peter__, would be my guess, anyway
[08:26] <scanwinder> dooglus: ok
[08:26] <peter__> yeah, but i'm changing it in the system --> preferences -->resoluion
[08:27] <dooglus> scanwinder: assuming you use GNOME, of course...
[08:27] <peter__> so why he is changing my virtual resoluion?
[08:27] <dooglus> scanwinder: and it won't be set in virtual terminals.
[08:27] <SuperLag> I'm in the middle of this Ubuntu install, it's at the "Installing Packages" stage, and it's hung at 71% at "Configuring xserver-xorg"
[08:27] <trappist> cybernmd: if your root device is sda1 make sure you have scsi support, scsi disk support etc. builtin too
[08:27] <scanwinder> dooglus: yeh im using gnome........that file dosent exist, do i just create it?
[08:28] <pkern> SuperLag: install or update?
[08:28] <SuperLag> install
[08:28] <ceceece> gverig, Probing devices to guess BIOS drives. This may take a long time.
[08:28] <ceceece> sed: can't read /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory
[08:28] <ceceece> grep: /boot/grub/device.map: No such file or directory
[08:28] <ceceece> /dev/hda does not have any corresponding BIOS drive.
[08:28] <selinium> Hi all, when I install the linux-k7 image. If i boot up ok, is it ok to remove the 386 version?
[08:28] <pkern> SuperLag: No clue the.
[08:28] <pkern> *then
[08:28] <dooglus> scanwinder: personally, what I did was add the line ". ~/.bash_profile" to ~/.gnomerc, and then put the enviroment settings in ~/.bash_profile
[08:28] <dooglus> scanwinder: that way they get set both in GNOME and in virtual terminals.  and yes, just create the file
[08:28] <eduardo1830> holass
[08:29] <scanwinder> dooglus: thanks
[08:29] <eduardo1830> alguien habla espaol??????
[08:29] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: yo
[08:29] <gverig> ceceece: cat device.map: (hd0)   /dev/hda
[08:29] <peter__> what should i write in my xorg.conf to disable virtual resolution??
[08:29] <eduardo1830> holas aleSD
[08:29] <jrattner> Anyone know anything about IMAP, my connection keeps getting dropped and I dont have a clue why?
[08:29] <pkern> ALSA lib simple.c:952:(simple_add1) helem (MIXER,'Front Playback Volume',0,0,0) appears twice or more <-- Any clue how to fix this?
[08:30] <peter__> there was something like changing it in xorg righ?
[08:30] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: en PVT este es en ingles
[08:30] <ceceece> gverig, bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[08:30] <eduardo1830> soy nuevo en esto
[08:30] <gverig> ceceece: I am not sure where that file comes from...
[08:30] <drcode> Hi all
[08:30] <yohan> anyone here using fbpanel? Anyone know how to change the pager size?
[08:30] <drcode> any one mybe know dc++ client or server/client in linux , or console ?
[08:31] <peter__> how can i disable virtual resolution in my xorg.conf ??
[08:31] <sethk> peter__, change it to be the same as the physical resolution
[08:31] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: ahora mismo te estoy escrivendo en privado
[08:31] <peter__> how :)
[08:32] <aLeSD> mira tu aplication... pode ser que se ha abierto una ventana con mi nombre
[08:32] <gverig> ceceece: Checking with the docs...
[08:32] <gnomefreak> !es
[08:32] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:32] <Seveas> aLeSD, please stick to english in here
[08:32] <peter__> sethk, how should i do it?
[08:32] <sethk> peter__, with an editor
[08:32] <aLeSD> Seveas: sorry, I'm explain to the guy how to have a PVT chat
[08:32] <idefix_> is BRLCAD ready for use already?
[08:33] <Seveas> aLeSD, ah cool, sorry then
[08:33] <aLeSD> Seveas: the problem is that he isn't able to do it...
[08:33] <Answer> Hi I just connected a second harddrive and I can't see it in fstab or df... but the bios recognizes it.  What can I do to mount it or whatever?
[08:33] <aLeSD> ;)
[08:33] <gverig> ceceece: have you tried grub-install hd0 ?
[08:33] <Seveas> Answer, does fdisk -l recognize it? Does it already have a filesystem?
[08:34] <aLeSD> someone knows how can i do an init file for the kernel by hands?
[08:34] <gnomefreak> aLeSD, he has to be registered with freenode before he can private message
[08:34] <ceceece> gverig, I did, but I also re-tried your "cat device.map:  hd0   /dev/hda" command without parenthesis... and it's definitely doing something
[08:34] <Answer> Seveas: fdisk -l only shows the partitions hdd1, hdd2, hdd5 from my original harddrive.  The new one has a windows ntfs file system but I don't mind destroying it
[08:34] <Seveas> aLeSD, you mean an initrd? mkinitramfs
[08:34] <eduardo1830> aleSD te hablo por el pv
[08:35] <aLeSD> Seveas: in the linux source path
[08:35] <gverig> ceceece: It was not a command!
[08:35] <Seveas> Answer, if fdisk -l does not show it, it may not be recognized, does lshal show it?
[08:35] <gverig> ceceece: device.map on my file contains (hd0)   /dev/hda ,
[08:35] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: me han dicho que tienes que apuntarte al servidor para hablar en pv
[08:35] <gverig> ceceece: Try to force-create this file.
[08:35] <ceceece> gverig, how?  and should I stop what it's doing now?
[08:36] <CactusWiZaRd> how can i delete my failed firefox installation on /usr?
[08:36] <gverig> ceceece: BTW, when you do grub-install, do you sudo it?
[08:36] <eduardo1830> pero si estoy en pv
[08:36] <ceceece> I'm in a "su" terminal
[08:36] <eduardo1830> ahi me saludaste
[08:36] <rob^^^> heya all. I've got a shell script and I want to beep the terminal, any ideas?
[08:36] <trappist> eduardo1830: #ubuntu-es
[08:36] <drummer> Can anyone help me with a problem syncing a Clie TH55 - What is the dev name & path etc?
[08:36] <ceceece> (I'm on mepis livecd because I can't get into ubuntu or windows)
[08:36] <Answer> Seveas: it appears that I have /dev/hda and /dev/hdd ?
[08:36] <rob^^^> I was using the beep program for a fancy beep but now I'll settle for just a plain old beep because I'm over ssh now
[08:36] <Seveas> Answer, that is possible, hda is primary master hdd is secondary slave
[08:36] <eduardo1830> haber lo k pasa es k kiero ser miembro nuevo de linux
[08:37] <CarinArr> !es
[08:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[08:37] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: haches esto : /nickserv register <tu clave>
[08:37] <eduardo1830> hasta ahora estoy aprendiendo
[08:37] <gverig> ceceece: Ok... Step 1: check if the file exists /boot/grub/device.map ; step 2: check what it has inside; step 3: are you running grub-install as root?
[08:37] <trappist> eduardo1830: /join #ubuntu-es
[08:37] <trappist> damn
[08:37] <eduardo1830> en donde lo hago
[08:37] <CarinArr> *firefingers*
[08:37] <CarinArr> ;)
[08:37] <bur[n] er> wow, dapper is f'd at the moment ;)
[08:37] <Seveas> CarinArr, trappist relax, aLeSD is trying to guide him :)
[08:37] <zandaa> can anyone help please?
[08:37] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, lol isnt that normal for alpha realeses?
[08:38] <rackerz> Can somebody tell me what happened to the Ubuntuforums?
[08:38] <eduardo1830>  /join #ubuntu-es
[08:38] <Dreamglider> ubuntu is really a great os... best i'we tried anyway...
[08:38] <eduardo1830> en donde lo hago
[08:38] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: naturally... though it hasn't been normal for this dapper so far... most stuff has been generally slow and stable :)
[08:38] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, im gonna take a guess and say you did the xserver update and it died?
[08:38] <trappist> rackerz: last I heard it was going down for security updates, but it was supposed to be back up yesterday
[08:38] <aLeSD> eduardo1830: ol
[08:38] <cheloo> anyone here who`s running qmail ?
[08:38] <Seveas> !tell zandaa about anyone
[08:38] <gverig> ceceece: I think the file is autogenerated (I know I did not create it)...
[08:38] <eduardo1830> jajaja
[08:38] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: i didn't do it ;)  i'm not an idiot
[08:38] <gnomefreak> lol theres a fix for it :)
[08:38] <zandaa> sorry Seveas, I'll get to the point
[08:38] <rackerz> trappist Thanks, the #ubuntuforums channel says they are back but there not.
[08:38] <Seveas> zandaa, great :)
[08:38] <cheloo> eduardo1830 what was thet " jajaja " for ?
[08:38] <ceceece> gverig, my /dev/hdd1/grub/device.map contains (hd0) /dev/hdc (hd1) /dev/hdd
[08:38] <rackerz> wonnder whats going on there
[08:39] <ceceece> gverig, like I said, I'm on mepis live cd
[08:39] <aLeSD> Seveas: so... I have to do mkinitramfs from the kernel source path?
[08:39] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: yeah?  I'm thinking I'll just wait till the repo quiets down a bit before upgrading
[08:39] <ceceece> gverig, because I can't access ubuntu or windows
[08:39] <eduardo1830> me estoy riendo
[08:39] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, i know there is a major issue with gnome crashing and the xserver dieing
[08:39] <jrattner> Does ubuntu use Maildir or mbox?
[08:39] <jrattner> ?
[08:39] <cheloo> trappist can you tell me whats this qmail-remote.c: In function main:
[08:39] <cheloo> qmail-remote.c:590: warning: return type of main is not int
[08:39] <Seveas> aLeSD, if you are compiling a kernel: use the --initrd flag for make-kpkg :)
[08:39] <foampeace> whats this gpg key stuff about...doesnt it complicate things?
[08:39] <zandaa> seveas, I installed firefox (32-bits) on a 64-bits system using the following wiki page: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28firefox%29
[08:39] <trappist> cheloo: that's a warning.  don't worry about it.
[08:39] <Seveas> cheloo, a bug in qmail-remote but nothing serious
[08:40] <gverig> ceceece: Oh, I did not see when you said that, sorry.
[08:40] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: KDE is a bit crash happy too recently... Xfce holds stron ;)
[08:40] <aLeSD> Seveas: I'm compilig by hands... where I can find that command ? I don't have it in my system
[08:40] <zandaa> seveas, everytime I run the thing I get http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7381 as output in the terminal
[08:40] <Seveas> !tell aLeSD about kernel
[08:40] <gnomefreak> it has a while to go yet :) but its comming along
[08:40] <jrattner> Does ubuntu use Maildir or mbox??
[08:40] <trappist> aLeSD: install initrd-tools
[08:40] <cheloo> trappist well at the end is " make: *** [qmail-remote.o]  Error 1
[08:40] <cheloo>  " which is a error not a warning
[08:40] <__null__> Which gst-plugin is required for playing *.bin files?
[08:40] <Seveas> aLeSD, read those 2 links :)
[08:40] <Answer> fdisk shows hdd1 hdd2 and hdd5 but it says its already mounted... ?
[08:40] <Seveas> cheloo, paste the *complete* output of it on the pastebin
[08:40] <Khisanth> oO
[08:40] <bur[n] er> gnomefreak: for sure... getting better and better by the day :)
[08:41] <Pygi> gnorereak: wake up :)
[08:41] <gnomefreak> yes it is :)
[08:41] <cheloo> Seveas ok
[08:41] <trappist> cheloo: yes, you need to find where the problem starts.  it's usually with a missing file, and it usually happens because you forgot to sudo apt-get install build-essential
[08:41] <Seveas> jrattner, Ubuntu no longer installs an MTA by default, so neither
[08:41] <peter__> sethk, but where, in which file i have to change it?
[08:41] <ceceece> gverig, yes, I guess /dev/hdd1 is my /boot  and /dev/hdd5 is ubuntu(which I can't seem to access, even from mepis, though I can access /dev/hdc1, which is newly installed windows)
[08:41] <dooglus> bur[n] er: dapper's fine if you edit gdm.conf appropriately
[08:41] <peter__> in xorg.conf?
[08:41] <Pygi> gnomefreak: ping
[08:41] <dooglus> to fix dapper's X, replace /usr/X11R6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[08:41] <eduardo1830> i'm not speak english........
[08:41] <aLeSD> Seveas: i have a question for u: why the default kernel don't use preemtive ?
[08:41] <cheloo> trappist build-essential is already the newest version.
[08:41] <jrattner> Seveas, well im configuring dovecot, what would you recomend I set it too?
[08:41] <gnomefreak> dooglus, still has gnome issues
[08:41] <gnomefreak> Pygi, pong
[08:41] <Pygi> gnomefreak: chapters
[08:41] <dooglus> gnomefreak: it does?  it's working fine here
[08:41] <Seveas> aLeSD, I wouldn't know, the folks on #ubuntu-kernel know I guess
[08:41] <bur[n] er> dooglus: i have no gdm issues...  i have gnome-panel issues... ;)
[08:42] <gnomefreak> dooglus, mine was crashing its butt off
[08:42] <Seveas> jrattner, Maildir
[08:42] <gverig> ceceece: So, help me out here... You have ubuntu on CD. And you want to install grub into MBR... to boot from CD or what?
[08:42] <jrattner> Seveas, really thanks
[08:42] <aLeSD> Seveas: thanks
[08:42] <trappist> cheloo: finding and fixing compile problems is a little tricky, and all but impossible over irc.  you have to find where things start to go south, interpret it, and see if you can fix it.
[08:42] <Seveas> jrattner, especially with imap you don't want mbox
[08:42] <Pygi> gnomefreak: you alive :) have you done it?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> Pygi, im not gonna beable to get to it schools got me all kinds of busy :( i had to take on 2 more classes :(
[08:42] <bur[n] er> dooglus: gnomefreak: alt+f2 makes the run dialog appear, but not be in focus anymore... do the same for you?
[08:42] <gverig> ceceece: Ohh... /me thinks you need to mount your ubuntu drive and chroot into it and run grub from there
[08:42] <Pygi> gnomefreak: so nothing out of it?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> bur[n] er, ill have to let you know lil later
[08:43] <ceceece> gverig, wait, I just mounted /dev/hdd1 to /boot/ then ran a grub install for /dev/hdd
[08:43] <dooglus> bur[n] er: yes.  did you update to 2.13.5-0ubuntu3?  or are you still using 2.13.5-0ubuntu2?
[08:43] <trappist> cheloo: in the case of qmail, it's probably not a problem with missing header files since qmail ships with all its own header files (iirc)
[08:43] <gnomefreak> Pygi, no im working on school work as we speak :(
[08:43] <dooglus> bur[n] er: (of gnome-panel)
[08:43] <Answer> Seveas: Turns out it is a linux fs, so I manually mounted the drive with  mount -t ext3 /dev/hdd1 /win2.  How can I mount it automatically from now on?
[08:43] <peter__> why ubuntuforums.org is offline ??
[08:43] <ceceece> gverig, it did it without errors, should that work maybe?
[08:43] <bur[n] er> dooglus: fixed already?
[08:43] <Seveas> Answer, add it to /etc/fstab
[08:43] <bur[n] er> dooglus: i'm apt-getting as we speak
[08:43] <jrattner> Seveas, how do i specify to my MTA to use maildir aswell?
[08:43] <gnomefreak> dooglus, the new panel update was supposed to fix it but it didnt on mine
[08:43] <Seveas> jrattner, depends completely on the mta
[08:43] <trappist> jrattner: depends on your mta
[08:43] <cheloo> trappist Seveas   http://pastebin.com/513460
[08:43] <gverig> ceceece: Well, I am not sure but I would not run grub for "tests", you can really screw up your system
[08:44] <Seveas> jrattner, courier does it by default, dunno about others
[08:44] <jrattner> Seveas, or trappist Postfix
[08:44] <dooglus> gnomefreak: I imagine that's the same bug as the 'log out' button not always focussing the 'exit' window
[08:44] <nubbe> is ubuntuforums up?
[08:44] <aLeSD> Seveas: now I say u what I did: make menuconfig, make && make menu_config. I configure grub like usual(in gentoo) but it gives me a kernel panic... i think in the fs support (all modules) so I'm tring to making a initd my hands
[08:44] <Seveas> cheloo, apt-get install libssl-dev
[08:44] <gverig> ceceece: If you can't access your ubuntu image (hdd5 you said?) there it's either not on hdd now (device files got mapped differently) or you have a problem with your ubuntu install. Either way, attaching grub to it is probably not the best idea
[08:45] <z0idberg> Hello. Could anyone tell me how to install an older kernel? I'm using 2.6.15-12 on Dapper, and I want to install 2.6.14, the standard kubuntu kernel.
[08:45] <gnomefreak> dooglus, yes and a few other lil things lil the update notifier crashing and not being able to log out because gnome-panel crashes and it just loops that way
[08:45] <trappist> cheloo: sudo apt-get install libssl-dev
[08:45] <trappist> oh oops :)
[08:45] <gnomefreak> i sent the log to launchpad just waiting on reply
[08:45] <Seveas> trappist, way ahead of you :p
[08:45] <zandaa> can anyone help me solve this problem... I installed firefox 32-bits on a 64-bits system using https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxAMD64FlashJava?highlight=%28firefox%29
[08:45] <trappist> Seveas: damn package names.  had to wait on apt-file search :)
[08:46] <zandaa> and whenever I try to run it it outputs http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7381 into the terminal
[08:46] <Seveas> trappist, hehe, that's the power of knowing such things without having to look it up :p
[08:47] <trappist> Seveas: I'm slowly learning that debian/ubuntu finds 'open' to be redundant in their package names.  they do the same thing with openldap, and it throws me off.
[08:47] <cheloo> Seveas  trappist   thank you
[08:47] <jrattner> How can I find out whats listening on 143 cause its not dovecot right now...
[08:47] <trappist> jrattner: netstat -ntlp | grep 143
[08:47] <ITSa341> when I booted my laptop today it said there were 3 updates ready. When I try to install them I get this error message. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372   How do I fix it?
[08:48] <trappist> jrattner: or fuser -v -n tcp 143
[08:48] <jrattner> ahhh courier : ) that devil
[08:48] <trappist> well yeah, courier likes 143 :)
[08:51] <crimsun> glacious: don't use apt-get, use aptitude
[08:51] <crimsun> glacious: and make sure you're using archive.ubuntu.com, not CC.archive.ubuntu.com
[08:51] <ITSa341> when I booted my laptop today it said there were 3 updates ready. When I try to install them I get this error message. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372   How do I fix it?
[08:53] <ITSa341> OK I'll try again later.
[08:53] <Vity> i need help!!
[08:53] <Vity> i am a n00b at linux and ubuntu
[08:53] <gnomefreak> omg malone is hard to search for a bug :(
[08:54] <Vity> why does the terminal change to just a normal >??
[08:54] <Vity> when i try to cd
[08:54] <Vity> anybody?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Vity, where are you trying to cd to?
[08:55] <Vity> a folder in the home dir
[08:55] <Vity> which i created
[08:55] <bur[n] er> cd ~/<tab><tab>
[08:56] <Vity> the console is unusable when i try and do it
[08:56] <Vity> how can i open a new window for console ???
[08:57] <RobinL> guys
[08:57] <RobinL> i got the most HORRIBLE command.. which i will not tell in here
[08:57] <o0o> tell it!
[08:57] <RobinL> ok
[08:57] <RobinL> :p
[08:57] <_jason> RobinL: why are you telling us this in the support channel?
[08:57] <cheloo> simple stupid question , where its the cgi-bin directory ?
[08:57] <RobinL> i'll tell it in private
[08:57] <RobinL> not i here
[08:57] <RobinL> :p
[08:57] <RobinL> in*
[08:57] <cheloo> for apache2 :)
[08:58] <CarinArr> how do you show fps with glxgears again?
[08:58] <Syco54645> hi i was wondering where i can find pp for perl in the repositories
[08:58] <smuggs> how do i make xmms stop sounding like its underwater?
[08:58] <Watje> '/usr/lib/firefox/firefox-bin: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0: undefined symbol: g_option_context_new'
[08:58] <Watje> how can I fix that?
[08:58] <idefix_> my housemate is such a weirdo,, he watches TV without sound
[08:59] <RobinL> o0o: check your PM
[08:59] <smuggs> idefix_, does he do it while naked?
[08:59] <arrinmurr> CarinArr: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:59] <cheloo> its /usr/lib/cgi-bin   the right directory  for apachae2 cgi-bin scripts ?
[08:59] <Watje> RobinL, also tell it to me please :] 
[08:59] <smuggs> i watch tv in black & white
[08:59] <RobinL> ok :p
[08:59] <_jason> Watje: run 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if it still does that
[08:59] <fli7e> RobinL, i want to know too!
[08:59] <RobinL> okay xD
[08:59] <idefix_> smuggs: i.o.w. .. you think it is not so weird?
[08:59] <RobinL> all come to #secretofthecommand
[09:00] <Watje> _jason, yes it does, and other programs also have problems (with other .so's)
[09:01] <smuggs> u know whats coolest part about linux, they made it so you can only listen to one application at a time
[09:01] <smuggs> that way when you use teamspeak and play games you have to choose which one you want to listen to
[09:01] <_jason> smuggs: that's not true
[09:01] <Vity> can someone help me plz
[09:01] <_jason> Watje: does the file exist?
[09:01] <smuggs> _jason, yes it is, you can fix it with oss if you want to bother
[09:02] <_jason> smuggs: that's what I meant, it's not true that you have to have it that way
[09:02] <Vity> how come it says no such file or directory when it is clearly there?
[09:02] <cheloo> i need to know where my cgi-bin directory for apache is
[09:02] <Watje> _jason, yes, and if I grep for the undefined symbol it finds matches
[09:02] <smuggs> you can change anything you want in linux, u just gotta read the 10 page manual
[09:02] <jrattner> When people send mail to me they get this error: Recipient address rejected: Access denied whats that?
[09:02] <jrattner> ?
[09:02] <Vity> anybody want to help me??????
[09:02] <smuggs> lawl, jk i like linux.  i just installed gentoo and im getting irritated with all the config'n u have to do
[09:02] <adub> what is a linux application that will extract bin files
[09:02] <Khisanth> is there a post install FAQ?
[09:03] <slew> hi, whats the repository for the new kde for ubuntu? anyone know?
[09:03] <smuggs> adub, type "sh ./filename.bin
[09:03] <_jason> Vity: you are doing something wrong
[09:03] <smuggs> set permissions if u have 2
[09:03] <arrinmurr> slew: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[09:04] <jrattner> trappist, any clues on that one?
[09:04] <adub> smugg this is an image bin cue like file with that still work ??
[09:04] <cheloo> /usr/share/apache2/default-site/cgi-bin
[09:04] <cheloo>     its this the right cgi-bin
[09:04] <cheloo>   path for apache isnti it ?
[09:04] <_jason> Vity: if you can't figure it out, pastebin the command, the result, and why you think the file is there
[09:04] <RickKnight> I need some help with an init script for wpa_supplicant. Can anyone help?
[09:04] <trappist> jtaylor_: I don't know what mta you're using
[09:04] <Vity> solved that now
[09:05] <jrattner> trappist, postfix its not accepting mail I think?
[09:05] <majd> hey
[09:05] <smuggs> adub, try
[09:05] <Vity> the problem i am getting now is when i cd to a certain directory the terminal changes to > and nothing else
[09:05] <idefix_> s m u gg s !!
[09:05] <majd> i need some help installing the Java Runtime Envoirnment
[09:05] <majd> i followed the instructions but it says it can't find the package
[09:05] <smuggs> adub, bin file as in one you burn to a cd as an image?
[09:05] <majd> and i have multiverse enabled
[09:05] <majd> any help?
[09:05] <_jason> ubotu: tell majd about javadeb
[09:05] <adub> smuggs yes
[09:05] <trappist> jrattner: seems to be the case
[09:06] <moro> Hi! I can't see wmv video, how package can I download to see them?
[09:06] <adub> sorry should have stated that
[09:06] <tonyyarusso> majd: Could you pastebin your sources.list?
[09:06] <_jason> ubotu: tell moro about w32codecs
[09:06] <smuggs> burn it
[09:06] <trappist> jrattner: troubleshooting it may be fairly involved.  you might consider joining #postfix
[09:06] <jrattner> trappist, its sending mail perfectly, but not accepting, I referenced this document completely for setup, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Postfix i
[09:06] <jrattner> ah
[09:06] <jrattner> ok
[09:06] <moro> thanks
[09:07] <adub> smuggs just kinda wanting to know how to extract for the sake of wanting to extract like i have movies in that format they are definitely nothing of the quality i want to waste a cd on
[09:07] <adub> just extract watch from computer delete
[09:07] <smuggs> mplayer will play bin files i think
[09:07] <adub> if mplayer will that is tight ill try it
[09:07] <majd> tonyyarusso, http://pastebin.com/513520
[09:07] <peterdautry> can someone help on configuring grub ?
[09:08] <adub> while thanks smuggs it will play the bin learn something new everyday
[09:08] <adub> thanks a ton
[09:08] <idefix_> what's SH3 and what's X11?
[09:08] <slew> arrinmurr, thanks homie
[09:08] <CVirus> is it safe to rm -rf /var/lib/apt/lists/*
[09:09] <gnomefreak> why doesnt mkdir work :(
[09:09] <cemmel> question: anyone have success compiling ndiswrapper on breazy?
[09:10] <selinium> gnomefreak, sudo mkdir /full/path/
[09:10] <gnomefreak> selinium, i tried witha nd without sudo :(
[09:10] <gnomefreak> it says not such file or dir
[09:10] <Neurosis> Any video players out there that comes compiled with all codecs for avi and mpg like xvid and the others.
[09:10] <peterdautry> anyone that can help with grub editing ?
[09:11] <selinium> gnomefreak, the full path? other wise its sticks it in the root
[09:11] <fli7e> peterdautry, what do you need
[09:11] <gnomefreak> selinium,  ~/.irssi/scripts
[09:11] <_jason> Watje: are you running breezy?
[09:11] <Vity> what is the default ubuntu root password????
[09:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell Vity about root
[09:11] <CarinArr> arrinmurr, i'm not trying to benchmark, i'm just curious
[09:11] <peterdautry> ok i have a windows partition bootable on hdd 2, installed ubuntu and can't boot windows anymore
[09:11] <selinium> gnomefreak, so what did it fail with?
[09:12] <arrinmurr> CarinArr: that's the command anyway :)
[09:12] <joshi> is it possible to change lftp tranfer mode? It seems that it transfers in utf-8, but i need it diffrent
[09:12] <gnomefreak> it says cant make that dir no such file or dir
[09:12] <peterdautry> i wonder how I can add an entry in GRUB to make windows boot
[09:12] <majd> _jason, i got this error:
[09:12] <majd> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[09:12] <arrinmurr> CarinArr: though you can use also glxgears -showfps ;)
[09:12] <CarinArr> ah that's the one
[09:12] <selinium> gnomefreak, does .irssi exist then?
[09:12] <Neurosis> Any video players out there that comes compiled with all codecs for avi and mpg like xvid and the others.
[09:12] <gnomefreak> im assuming since its installed by default
[09:12] <_jason> majd: read seveas's repository's home page
[09:12] <CarinArr> thanks;)
[09:12] <crimsun> Neurosis: mplayer's the closest
[09:12] <Watje> _jason, no dapper
[09:13] <_jason> Watje: that's probably why
[09:13] <Neurosis> the codecs wont work for me on it
[09:13] <Watje> _jason, it just worked fine for ~4 months
[09:13] <Watje> _jason,  and now when the package freeze has started it starts crashing
[09:13] <mirak> anyone posesses a Logitech Quickcam pro 5000 ? I am searching how to make it work
[09:13] <_jason> Watje: you understand that dapper is devel and will break right?
[09:13] <fli7e> peterdautry, are you sure that you didnt mess something up when partitioning? ubuntu should automatically detect and add a grub entry for windows
[09:14] <majd> yaaaaay
[09:14] <majd> it worked
[09:14] <majd> thanks _jason
[09:14] <Watje> _jason, yes I do, and I know that when it's broke there will be a fix SOON
[09:14] <_jason> majd: np
[09:14] <selinium> gnomefreak,  sudo mkdir ~/.irssi/scripts    works for me
[09:14] <Watje> but it hasn't come yet, so I think theres maybe something wrong locally
[09:14] <selinium> gnomefreak, pm?
[09:14] <peterdautry> the problem is that hdd2 had an old mandrake grub through which the system was booting, the user selected "windows" and he was in windows
[09:14] <_jason> selinium, gnomefreak: why would you sue sudo in your home directory?
[09:14] <gnomefreak> selinium, sure
[09:15] <gnomefreak> _jason, it doesnt work with out without sudo
[09:15] <peterdautry> I installed breezy for him and he cant get into hiw windows, neither it boots
[09:15] <_jason> gnomefreak: check who owns ~/.irssi
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> majd: I see universe enabled, but not multiverse.  Just add 'multiverse' on that same line right after 'universe'.
[09:15] <gnomefreak> _jason, im the only usr i had better own it
[09:15] <meisam> package for kde 3.5
[09:15] <_jason> gnomefreak: root maybe?
[09:16] <meisam> how can i install the kde package?
[09:16] <fli7e> peterdautry, you're going to need someone elses help for that... i dont want to give you advice if im not SURE it will work
[09:16] <meisam> KDE 3.5
[09:16] <majd> tonyyarusso, it scrolled down, it says multiverse
[09:16] <majd> but not to worry
[09:16] <gnomefreak> give me a min im having sources issues now
[09:16] <majd> i got it worked out
[09:16] <majd> thanks for trying to help
[09:16] <Vity> is it possible to paste files to lib directory when using live cd???
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> majd: Okay, whatever works.
[09:16] <peterdautry> thanks
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> majd: Package name confusion?
[09:17] <_jason> Vity: you can paste anywhere you want with sudo, but what are you pasting there?
[09:17] <meisam> anybody guys here?
[09:17] <Vity> what is sudo?
[09:17] <meisam> to help me install kde?
[09:17] <majd> tonyyarusso, no i went to  http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ and i got their repository...
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> majd: Ah.
[09:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell meisam about kde3.5
[09:18] <CVirus> somebody help me please http://pastebin.com/513541
[09:18] <selinium> gnomefreak, Can you not 'hear' me in the PM?
[09:19] <gnomefreak> selinium, yes sorry i was fixing sources.llsit
[09:19] <Vity> jason i am trying to install sdl on my comp with live cd
[09:19] <gnomefreak> could a sudo process interfer with mkdir?
[09:20] <jenda> gnomefreak: it just makes the new dir owned by root
[09:20] <mikelo> linux is a very smart idea
[09:20] <seb__> why is TV-out always B&W while with windoz, colours are OK ?
[09:20] <abunai> When i startup the computer, sometimes does the loadinscreen freeze (the whole computer) when i come to Loading Modules. Then it freezes, does someone know what why this is happening? I saw some errors on apm, ACPI and some aic7xxx packet in some logfiles, but could that cause the problem? I mean if i go into recoverymode and reboot a couple of times then can i manage to get it to load the modules somehow and it doesnt
[09:20] <abunai> freeze... It's frustrating
[09:20] <meisam> jason he is not helping me
[09:20] <jenda> mikelo: lol :)
[09:20] <mikelo> i always thought it was a waste of time
[09:20] <meisam> ineed a command to install the kde package
[09:20] <_jason> Vity: I don't know what sdl is, but have you searched the packages for it?
[09:20] <mikelo> it is
[09:20] <captainredbeard> anyone know anything about soundcards in ubuntu?
[09:20] <mikelo> (-:
[09:20] <Vity> yes. ive got them
[09:21] <jenda> gnomefreak: sorry - I misunderstood yo' question :)
[09:21] <tonyyarusso> meisam: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[09:21] <mikelo> but we can really kick everybody's ass with this s*
[09:21] <jenda> mikelo: yo - language
[09:21] <adriyel> is it me, or is Enlightenment somewhat buggy?
[09:21] <captainredbeard> whats the best 5.1 or higher soundcard for ubuntu?
[09:22] <kthx> adriyel,  o.O
[09:22] <meisam> all right but im using ubuntu, can i install kubuntu package  here in my ubuntu ?
[09:22] <mikelo> jenda, i didn't say any bad word
[09:22] <Snarkfish> meh.
[09:22] <majd> when i chose "open" when downloading stuff in firefox, where does it save them?
[09:22] <mikelo> ok i'll cool down
[09:22] <jenda> mikelo: no???? :)
[09:22] <captainredbeard> meisam sudo apt-get install kdm
[09:22] <mikelo> ass is not a bad word
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> majd: /tmp
[09:22] <mikelo> ass = donkey
[09:22] <majd> thnx
[09:22] <adriyel> kthx, certain things have trails when they shouldn't, e.t.c.
[09:23] <captainredbeard> whats the best 5.1 or higher soundcard for ubuntu?
[09:23] <Snarkfish> adriyel, I know where you live. >:)
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> majd: You can get there through the download manager by clicking "open containing folder" or something like that.
[09:23] <captainredbeard> join ubuntu-ie
[09:23] <meisam> captainredbeard does it install the latest version, coz the latest one is 3.5 ?
[09:23] <captainredbeard> meisam, yes
[09:23] <adriyel> Snarkfish, thats an accomplishment. :| *snorts*
[09:23] <adriyel> Snarkfish, hi Chris
[09:23] <khan> hallo
[09:23] <adriyel> what are you doing in Ubuntu land?
[09:23] <meisam> captainredbeard thanks man
[09:24] <zAo^> lo khan
[09:24] <Snarkfish> hi :] 
[09:24] <Snarkfish> lol
[09:24] <mikelo> hey guys i can't fet to share folders with samba
[09:24] <captainredbeard> whats the best 5.1 or higher soundcard for ubuntu?
[09:24] <Snarkfish> I saw you come in here as I was leaving.. I was like........ "Heyyyyyyyyy.............>"
[09:24] <khan> hallo aao
[09:24] <Snarkfish> By the way, I'm on ubuntu.. :P
[09:24] <mikelo> i just manage to share with window machines
[09:24] <meisam>  captainredbeard "sudo apt-get install kdm" is that right?
[09:24] <georgeguitar> hello
[09:24] <Vity> _jason how come the terminal switches to just > when i try to cd
[09:24] <captainredbeard> yes meisam
[09:24] <mikelo> i can't share ubuntu/ubuntu or ubuntu/windows
[09:25] <_jason> meisam: do you have kde now?
[09:25] <meisam> captainredbeard coz some one toldd me that i need to download it first...
[09:25] <mikelo> anybody?
[09:25] <georgeguitar> how can I make a dep pack?
[09:25] <Snarkfish> Gah, Chris, what's that package that has the essentials of compiling in it? I'm trying to compile... and once again, it's not ready upon install :] 
[09:25] <neoxan> http://img370.imageshack.us/img370/1356/dsc075001oc.jpg <-- does this have anything to do with ubuntu?
[09:25] <meisam> captainredbeard no
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> Snarkfish: build-essential
[09:25] <aLeSD> but ubuntu is configuref with dmix?
[09:25] <meisam> captainredbeard no no idun have
[09:25] <seb__> why is TV-out always B&W while with windoz, colours are OK ?
[09:25] <adriyel> Snarkfish, use tab to complete my name, makes your text easier to read, and the package is build-essential btw
[09:25] <adriyel> ubotu tell Snarkfish about build essential
[09:25] <adriyel> ubotu tell Snarkfish about gcc
[09:25] <khan> may i chat with somone
[09:26] <Snarkfish> You asshat adriyel , I know. You don't have to give me the noob advice. :P But thank you tonyyarusso , and adriyel . :] 
[09:26] <_jason> meisam: if you want kubuntu, you do 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop', if you want just kde without the extra stuff kubuntu provides you do: 'sudo apt-get install kde'
[09:26] <mikelo> jenda, can u help out with samba lan sharing?
[09:26] <khan> no thank you bye
[09:26] <captainredbeard> whats the best 5.1 or higher soundcard for ubuntu?
[09:26] <qaisar> hello
[09:26] <adriyel> Snarkfish, I didn't give you n00b advice, I asked you to spare my eyes
[09:26] <Snarkfish> No no, with ubotu. :P
[09:26] <Vity> someone help me!!! how come the terminal changes to > when i try to cd?
[09:26] <meisam> captainredbeard which one is better, and notice i have ubuntu now
[09:26] <Seveas> !tell Snarkfish about conduct
[09:26] <meisam> captainredbeard which one do u prefer?
[09:26] <mtlife> How can i print a file with cups?
[09:27] <zAo^> captainredbeard: donno what the best is, but my Terratec (cs46xx) is doing great with Gstreamer 0.10
[09:27] <meisam> captainredbeard i mean which one is more efficient?
[09:27] <Snarkfish> Seveas, I don't mean to be rude to anyone, but I know him in person. He goes to my school.
[09:27] <Seveas> Vity, because you have  a ' or " in your filename
[09:27] <adriyel> Snarkfish, you'd do well to be more polite though. :)
[09:27] <adriyel> Seveas, he does go to my school though
[09:27] <captainredbeard> zAo^ does it work with xine?
[09:27] <captainredbeard> meisam, I prefer gnome
[09:27] <zAo^> captainredbeard: yes, no problems found
[09:28] <meisam> captainredbeard no between kde versions?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> I don't think personal acquaintance from outside has any bearing on conduct in Ubuntu mediums.
[09:28] <captainredbeard> zAo^ and full 5.1 support, music and DVDs?
[09:28] <meisam> i mean kubuntu or ubuntu?
[09:28] <Snarkfish> Indeed, I use n00b affectionately though, but I do realize that it's inappropriate in a room meant for technical assistance with things that are quite complex. "OMG U R A NUB!" is never helpful. :)
[09:28] <captainredbeard> meisam, ubuntu
[09:28] <joshi> is it possible to change lftp tranfer mode? It seems that it transfers in utf-8, but i need it diffrent
[09:28] <jrattner> Anyone got a guess at why my postfix isnt recieving mail properly?
[09:29] <meisam> i mean do u recommand if i install ubuntu or kubuntu kde?
[09:29] <quad_> Can anybody tell me how I map my home dir on this linux computer, from a windows XP computer?
[09:29] <qaisar> how do i install real player
[09:29] <Snarkfish> Eh. Got this when trying to compile: configure: error: No OpenGL library could be found.
[09:29] <jenda> mikelo: sorry, prolly not.
[09:29] <qaisar> it's in some .bin format
[09:29] <Snarkfish> So.. what's the pack for the ogl lib? :] 
[09:29] <Seveas> !tell qaisar about restricted
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> quad_: As in from another computer over a network?  Check out samba.
[09:29] <Seveas> !tell Snarkfish about compiling
[09:29] <Seveas> Snarkfish, ubotu sends you a link with some tipd
[09:29] <Seveas> tips even
[09:30] <quad_> tonyyarusso, yes, thank you, i will.
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> qaisar: I think that's supposed to be self extracting, so you can run it like a script.  I could be wrong though, hopefully someone here actually has realplayer and can help you.
[09:30] <captainredbeard> why are the ubuntu forums down?
[09:31] <Eins> join
[09:31] <Snarkfish> Meh.. I know how, Seveas , thanks though. :) I just need the name of the OpenGL Library, and if that was in that wiki, I didn't see it. :x
[09:31] <Seveas> captainredbeard, because they are offline
[09:31] <meisam> captainredbeard Package kde is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:31] <meisam> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:31] <meisam> is only available from another source
[09:31] <meisam> E: Package kde has no installation candidate
[09:31] <meisam>  this is the message i recieve
[09:31] <qip|Virusmaster> hi... i have a breezy running here When i use Firefox, it keeps using utf8, which is quite annoying... it always jumps back to utf8, but it has to stay on ISO-8859-1 ... does someone know, how to do this???
[09:31] <Seveas> Snarkfish, apt-cache search gl | grep dev
[09:31] <Snarkfish> k
[09:31] <Seveas> meisam, kubuntu-desktop
[09:31] <mikelo> can anybody help out with samba and networks?
[09:31] <tenco> hi!
[09:31] <_jason> meisam: you need universe enabled
[09:31] <meisam> seveas help me more
[09:32] <meisam> help me jason
[09:32] <Vity> how come in linux it tells me that i cannot extract into the lib directory?
[09:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell meisam about repos
[09:32] <tenco> i am currently using kubuntu and want to try ubuntu-desktop. but i cant find a working and maintained rss-aggregator for gnome
[09:32] <gordon> how can i play wma's in linux?
[09:32] <_jason> meisam: and I would recommend 'kubuntu-desktop' as seveas suggested.  It is more `full-featured'
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> tenco: Thunderbird can do RSS.
[09:33] <Seveas> _jason, not for kubuntu-desktop :)
[09:33] <pashaw> !tell gordon about restrictedformats
[09:33] <tenco> tonyyarusso: is thunderbird integrated in gnome?
[09:33] <_jason> Seveas: oh... I hate the thing :)
[09:34] <meisam> jason waht is the command, can u tell me the steps to install the Kde desktop kubuntu
[09:34] <selinium> If i have install the k7 kernal, when I reboot, can i remove the other one?
[09:34] <qip|Virusmaster> gordon, if it isnt covered with DRM, it should be possible to play it with mplayer... if it does not play it: it is DRM'd
[09:34] <_jason> meisam: 'sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop'
[09:34] <Snarkfish> Meh, I'm not finding a concrete description of one.. I really could use a direct suggestion for this one.
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> tenco: No, I got it separately after the default install.
[09:34] <meisam> jason, does it matter im installing kubuntu desktop on ubuntu
[09:34] <tonyyarusso> tenco: I had been using it in Windows before I switched, and wanted to stick with it.
[09:34] <meisam> _jason ?
[09:34] <_jason> meisam: no, it is fine.
[09:35] <bnD> does that pkg remove the gnome desktop?
[09:35] <Remmy> Hi all, I am trying to install ubuntu on my system. I'm installing on /dev/sdb, having previously installed on /dev/sda. However, neither grub or lilo wants to install and give an error. How can I work around is or see what the cause of the error
[09:35] <Remmy> is?
[09:35] <pashaw> selinium,  yes  but dont do it  until you have used the new kernel for awhile
[09:35] <_jason> bnD: no
[09:35] <selinium> ok
[09:35] <bnD> _jason, kde + gnome = bloat
[09:35] <selinium> pashaw, cheers :)
[09:35] <bnD> :/
[09:36] <tenco> bnD: no
[09:36] <bnD> tenco, yes
[09:36] <versaily> what is the wiki site for restricted formats?
[09:36] <_jason> bnD: you mean combined or both individually?
[09:36] <tenco> bnD: no. :-)
[09:36] <selinium> bnD: & boat = M$
[09:36] <bnD> _jason, combined
[09:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell versaily about restricted
[09:36] <_jason> bnD: you would only run one at a time presumably
[09:36] <gordon> i wish gnome had something like konqueror. Is there a thing where konqueror has been recompiled for gnome?
[09:36] <selinium> bnD: s/boat/bloat
[09:36] <versaily> _jason thx
[09:36] <bnD> _jason, would still have the footprint
[09:36] <bnD> selinium, i gotcha
[09:36] <selinium> :)
[09:36] <_jason> bnD: what footprint?  hard drive space?
[09:36] <peterdautry> someone that can help me adding a windows entry to GRUB so I can boot from that partition ?
[09:37] <bnD> _jason, yep
[09:37] <meisam> _jason its ganna take time to install the package?
[09:37] <bnD> morphix, hows it going
[09:37] <_jason> meisam: yes, it will take time
[09:37] <bnD> meisam, depends on your connection how much time ..
[09:38] <meisam> _jason all right i mean can i go to sleep and let it go on?
[09:38] <jrattner> Anyone have expierience and a few minutes with Postfix and ubuntu?
[09:38] <_jason> meisam: if you want I guess you can do that... what kind of connection do you have?
[09:38] <cheloo>   courier-imap-ssl: Depends: courier-imap (>= 1.3.7-3) but it is not going to be installed
[09:38] <cheloo> why not ?
[09:38] <bnD> meisam,  it really shouldnt take that long..
[09:39] <bnD> cheloo, have you added the universe repo?
[09:39] <cheloo> bnD hmm yeah
[09:39] <meisam> my conection is kind of like 800 m/b lan network
[09:39] <meisam> thats a good connection
[09:39] <_jason> meisam: then it won't take that long.  Go make yourself a sandwich if you want
[09:39] <bnD> meisam, it shouldnt take very long at all ..
[09:40] <bnD> cheloo, its listed under the security ubuntu repo
[09:40] <meisam> _jason then what is the next step i need to do
[09:40] <cheloo> bnD i said yes i enable it
[09:40] <meisam> _jason i wanna see the environmnet
[09:40] <meisam> _jason of kde
[09:40] <bnD> cheloo, ::shrug::
[09:40] <bnD> meisam, select it from your display manager..
[09:41] <meisam> _jason am i so stupid...reall asking?
[09:41] <_jason> bnD: you just lgout and log back in when that is done, then do what bnd said
[09:41] <DjDmS> ciao a tutti
[09:41] <bnD> _jason, i think you meant to highlight meisam :P
[09:41] <_jason> meisam: you just lgout and log back in when that is done, then do what bnd said
[09:41] <_jason> bnD: thanks
[09:41] <Vity> how come i cant copy files to lib directory?
[09:42] <paul_> hi everyone, just installed and so far so good. There is a steep learning curve. ubuntu dials out automatically on booting. is that normal
[09:42] <meisam> _jason all right
[09:42] <bnD> paul_, yep
[09:42] <bnD> paul_, the network is loaded on boot by default
[09:42] <MrPockets> if im using GTK pod and i put a song on my Ipod
[09:42] <meisam> _jason thats a compelete kde? isn`t it?
[09:42] <mcphail> paul_: it synchronises to a timeserver
[09:42] <_jason> meisam: I hope so
[09:42] <paul_> thanks i thourt i had some virus thingy
[09:42] <MrPockets> do i need to convert it to M4a before addding it?'
[09:42] <bnD> anyone know why the ntp and the forums were down last night?
[09:43] <Vity> someone help me!!
[09:43] <bnD> paul_, chances are you never need to worry about virus thingies again :)
[09:43] <lsuactiafner> its stupid to auto dail, ppl in south-africa pay through their asses for a 2 minute connection
[09:43] <cheloo> bnD right no i have enabled only deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[09:43] <meisam> _jason which one do u prefer yourself?
[09:43] <cheloo>  bnD  and i get the same error
[09:43] <_jason> meisam: I like gnome
[09:43] <meisam> gnome ?
[09:43] <Vity> how do i get root access with live cd?
[09:43] <cheloo>  bnD  and i did run apt-get update
[09:43] <meisam> _jason aha
[09:43] <_jason> meisam: gnome is the regular ubuntu
[09:43] <Vity> how do i get root access with ubuntu live cd????
[09:43] <meisam> _jason aha
[09:43] <_jason> Vity: use sudo
[09:43] <Vity> how?
[09:43] <_jason> ubotu: tell Vity about sudo
[09:43] <Vity> what do i do?
[09:43] <bnD> cheloo, if you havent already, why not just go ahead and uncomment all the repos in your sources.list and apt-get update , if you already have i dont know the prob, sorry :(
[09:43] <_jason> Vity: ubotu has sent you a link
[09:43] <JoeBlow> how can I force quit something?
[09:43] <gnomefreak> :)
[09:44] <paul_> thats what i hope, its my ignorance that will cause problems
[09:44] <meisam> _jason can i have any subscription magazine about linux
[09:44] <cheloo> bnD all the repos ?
[09:44] <meisam> im student in mmu university in malaysia
[09:44] <selinium> gnomefreak, working now?
[09:44] <_jason> JoeBlow: if you press the x a lot gnome will ask you.  Or run 'xkill' and click on it if you rpefer
[09:44] <bnD> JoeBlow, go to a console and type ps aux | grep nameofapplication then sudo kill -9 the number for the app returned
[09:44] <ompaul> !info thunderbird breezy
[09:44] <cheloo> bnD so from where am i gonna install packages then ?
[09:44] <meisam> _jason im student in mmu in malaysia
[09:44] <_jason> meisam: I don't have one myself so I probably can't help you there
[09:44] <gnomefreak> selinium: yep i missed it soooooooo bad :)
[09:44] <Seveas> !info ompaul
[09:44] <meisam> _jason thanks
[09:44] <bnD> cheloo, go to your sources.list and uncomment any lines starting with deb, then apt-get update, then apt-get install packagename
 Package 'ompaul' does not exist.
[09:44] <meisam> _jason thanks man
[09:44] <fireonyx> For some reason, I am having problems logging into x.  The ubuntu box that has nautilus/the panel/etc wont show up no matter how long I wait.  If I do a modprobe -r ndiswrapper, I can then log in... any ideas whats going on?
[09:44] <selinium> cool! :)
[09:45] <lightbright> I have been using Ubunu for 5 months and it has NEVER happened before, but today all of a sudden for no reason, while just writing email using yahoo. my system rebooted itself!  ANY ideas please?
[09:45] <cheloo> bnD i just did
[09:45] <_jason> meisam: np
[09:45] <bnD> cheloo, then i dont know the prob, sorry
[09:45] <bnD> cheloo, whats the package name?
[09:45] <lightbright> Seveas: any ideas what would cause Ubuntu to reboot itself while I was just reading yahoo email?
[09:45] <cheloo> bnD hey wtf ? how can you run apt without any repos ? ;))
[09:45] <bnD> i said uncomment
[09:45] <bnD> not comment
[09:45] <Seveas> lightbright, it hates yahoo
[09:45] <bnD> all repos* cheloo not none
[09:45] <Seveas> (in other words: no idea)
[09:45] <_jason> lightbright: you're system could have overheated... clean the dust out of it :)
[09:46] <ompaul> Seveas, very funny - on dialup and getting ill the more the minutes pass - archives corrupting as they download
[09:46] <lightbright> Seveas: who cares? :)  doesnt answer me
[09:46] <lightbright> Seveas: now Firefox wont start either
[09:46] <lightbright> asking me about profiles
[09:46] <SirKillalot> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[09:46] <Seveas> SirKillalot, yes
[09:46] <fireonyx> yes
[09:46] <bnD> lightbright, thats because your system didnt shut down correctly
[09:46] <lightbright> Seveas: can you answer me please?
[09:46] <C-O-L-T> how to remove red eye with gimp
[09:46] <SirKillalot> for days now right?
[09:46] <_jason> lightbright: make a new profile
[09:46] <SirKillalot> that really sucks
[09:46] <meisam> SirKillalot no
[09:46] <Seveas> lightbright, find a file named lock in .firefox or .mozilla
[09:46] <cheloo> bnD it might be because i run  dpkg --purge --force-depends postfix
[09:46] <Seveas> and remove it
[09:46] <bnD> lightbright, please dont spam your question repeatedly Seveas isnt under obligation to answer you
[09:46] <Vity> how do i use the sudo?
[09:47] <lightbright> bnD: in the words of Henry Ford, "dont find fault, find me a remedy"
[09:47] <lightbright> bnD: you are now on ignore
[09:47] <_jason> Vity: you need to read what ubotu sent you
[09:47] <SirKillalot> Vity, sudo <command>, executes <command> as root
[09:47] <lightbright> Seveas: ok brb
[09:47] <SirKillalot> Vity, man sudo
[09:47] <bnD> lightbright, been a while since ive seen a troll in here, thanks.
[09:47] <Seveas> lightbright, in the words of myself: adhere to the CoC or else...
[09:47] <Vity> i dont understand
[09:47] <cheloo> bnD right now i have all repos in source.list enabled
[09:47] <Vity> explain to me tomorrow plz
[09:47] <meisam> jason what if i stop the package installation?
[09:47] <_jason> Vity: ok simple command: 'echo hi'.  Simple command with sudo: 'sudo echo hi'
[09:48] <bnD> cheloo, and even then you cant get the package? if thats the case i dont know, sorry
[09:48] <meisam> _jason whats ganna happen?
[09:48] <_jason> meisam: don't do that
[09:48] <meisam> why?
[09:48] <_jason> meisam: you won't get kde I suppose
[09:48] <lightbright> bnD: look in the mirror, you are the biggest troll known here
[09:48] <meisam> _jason even next time if i start it again?
[09:49] <_jason> meisam: I don't know.  If you feel like trying it and finding out, you can
[09:49] <cheloo> sudo apt-get install courier-imap-ssl = courier-imap-ssl: Depends: courier-imap (>= 1.3.7-3) but it is not going to be installed
[09:49] <cheloo> cheloo    " why " ?
[09:49] <aLeSD> someone here use vlc to see the dvd... because in ubuntu it cannot show me nothing. I have problem with dvd:/
[09:49] <gnomefreak> to remove a dir what is the command i thought it was rm /path/
[09:49] <ompaul> Seveas, I was going to say that fool needed to be removed - no pity for them :)
[09:49] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak:hello
[09:49] <aLeSD> helop?
[09:49] <_jason> gnomefreak: -r
[09:49] <meisam> any iranian here?
[09:49] <DustyDingo> does ubuntu feature something like a quick setup for multihead systems?
[09:49] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: can you help me please
[09:49] <gnomefreak> hi C-O-L-T
[09:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: with what?
[09:50] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: how to remove red eye in gimp?
[09:50] <Seveas> ompaul, hahaha :)
[09:50] <bnD> cheloo, i can do it just fine from here, you may have broken something :/
[09:50] <Remmy> Hi all, I am trying to install ubuntu on my system. I'm installing on /dev/sdb, having previously installed on /dev/sda. However, neither grub or lilo wants to install and give an error. How can I work around is or see what the cause of the error is?
[09:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: i dont know
[09:50] <tankkiller_> im having trouble installing gftp via apt-get
[09:50] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: who knows?
[09:50] <_jason> C-O-L-T: I think the gimp site has a tutorial for that
[09:50] <bnD> yeesh, lightbright is msging me threats now, i really dont understand some people.
[09:50] <gnomefreak> C-O-L-T: not sure
[09:50] <C-O-L-T> _jason: i will look at it
[09:50] <tankkiller_> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:50] <tankkiller_>   gftp: Depends: gftp-gtk (= 2.0.18-10) but it is not installable
[09:50] <tankkiller_>         Depends: gftp-text (= 2.0.18-10) but it is not going to be installed
[09:50] <tankkiller_> E: Broken packages
[09:50] <Seveas> bnD, /ignore does wonders :)
[09:50] <gnomefreak> brb see if i cant fix this :(
[09:51] <Seveas> tankkiller_, pleas don't paste in here
[09:51] <tankkiller_> k
[09:51] <ITSa341> when I booted my laptop this morning it showed 3 updates ready to install. When I tried to install them I got this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . Any ideas?  I ran a search in the wiki and found nothing searching either titles or text.
[09:51] <Seveas> tankkiller_, sources.list on the pastebin
[09:51] <bnD> Seveas, good point.
[09:51] <meisam> bnD why is that?
[09:51] <bnD> meisam, im sorry, what?
[09:51] <C-O-L-T> _jason: I got it at their website
[09:51] <armosfighter> !fwnes
[09:51] <cheloo> bnD i think its because i run dpkg --purge --force-depends postfix
[09:51] <meisam> bnD ucsaid peole r sending u threads
[09:51] <ubotu> armosfighter: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[09:52] <armosfighter> mmmm
[09:52] <meisam> bnD any help?
[09:52] <_jason> C-O-L-T: k
[09:52] <C-O-L-T> gnomefreak: I got at their website
[09:52] <bnD> meisam, never mind, its offtopic, thanks tho
[09:52] <cheloo> bnD and now its not going to resolve those dependencies anymore
[09:52] <bnD> cheloo, i see, im not sure how to reverse that
[09:52] <chiddy> is ubuntuforums down again???
[09:52] <newuser> I get this error when I open synaptic.
[09:53] <lsuactiafner> is amd 2800 sempron 64bit or 32bit?
[09:53] <bnD> chiddy, they seem to be from here :(
[09:53] <newuser> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/multiverse Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/us.archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_multiverse_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[09:53] <chiddy> bnD, i wonder what they're up to... lol that's two days in a row now
[09:53] <tankkiller_> !ubuntu tell tankkiller_ about repositions
[09:53] <ubotu> I don't know, tankkiller_
[09:53] <newuser> how do I fix it.
[09:53] <tankkiller_> =\
[09:53] <bnD> chiddy, yes and the ntp server was down as well, very strange
[09:53] <_jason> newuser: sudo apt-get update
[09:54] <bnD> anyone else think 'cowsay' is the most important package in the repo's? ;)
[09:54] <GeekToe> wtf 6 hours remaining download time?
[09:54] <Travis> is it possible to install IMC on ubuntu? the source packages just make a rpm, I tried also downloading the RPM and installing it with alien but then it gives me an error about /etc/init.d/functions not existing, is there anyway to install it?    http://imc.sourceforge.net
[09:55] <newuser> how often should i do this, when the error's come up?
[09:55] <bnD> GeekToe, if your connection is fast its unlikely that it will stay near that slow.
[09:55] <cheloo> dammm the repos are too slow
[09:55] <armosfighter> whats the command to install a tgz file?
[09:55] <_jason> newuser: did that work?
[09:55] <GeekToe> bnD, it's 1mb
[09:55] <bnD> cheloo, just atm, theyll be faster in a bit, they avg 200-300kbps for me
[09:55] <ITSa341> When I booted my laptop this morning it showed 3 updates ready to install. When I tried to install them I got this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . Any ideas?  I ran a search in the wiki and found nothing searching either titles or text. I'm running Ubuntu 5.10
[09:55] <bnD> GeekToe, it should speed up shortly, give it a little time
[09:55] <meisam> bnD thats gnna take time badly
[09:55] <cheloo> bnD atm ?
[09:55] <meisam>  idun know why?
[09:55] <bnD> cheloo, sorry, at the moment
[09:55] <newuser> _jason yes sir it did thanks.
[09:55] <GeekToe> ok
[09:56] <meisam> bnD i dun no
[09:56] <bnD> meisam, i believe the servers are having some issues at the moment, you can try later if youd like
[09:56] <_jason> newuser: you shouldn't get those errors.  Maybe you modified sources.list?  Whenever you modify it by hand you have to run 'sudo apt-get update' afterwards
[09:56] <newuser> oohhh
[09:56] <meisam> bnD but jason told me not to intrupt the installation
[09:56] <moritz4> Hello there!
[09:56] <meisam> bnD that not good
[09:56] <bnD> meisam, would be best not to, if possible
[09:57] <_jason> meisam: you can always take that nap you were talking about
[09:57] <bnD> meisam, you can still operate the rest of your system while its going.
[09:57] <JoeBlow> maybe im doing something wrong, but I go into my quake 2 folder, use sudo wine Setup.exe, it asks me if i want to isntall, i say yes, screen goes black then it exits
[09:57] <zandaa> I have a question, how can I change the usplash???
[09:57] <Travis> is it possible to install IMC on ubuntu? the source packages just make a rpm, I tried also downloading the RPM and installing it with alien but then it gives me an error about /etc/init.d/functions not existing, is there anyway to install it?    http://imc.sourceforge.net
[09:57] <Travis> anyone?
[09:57] <Travis> I really need it
[09:57] <meisam> bnD u know what? here is 5 am in malaysia,  thats why
[09:57] <bnD> zandaa, its on the wiki buddy :)
[09:57] <bnD> meisam, sorry to hear that
[09:57] <moritz4> I've bought myself a new notebook containing an Intel centrino mobile package (processor, wlan, ...). i'm not able to do wlan with 5.04, though. should I?
[09:57] <meisam> bnD never mind
[09:58] <zandaa> bnD, I know, but it's not clear for me
[09:58] <meisam> bnD where r u?
[09:58] <bnD> meisam, los angeles, ca, usa
[09:58] <zandaa> bnD, I wanted to know if there was a way to use 255 color images
[09:58] <qip|Virusmaster> i use ubuntu on a Thinkpad 600E here... can someone tell me, why no ACPI Button but the Power button throw acpi events?
[09:58] <bnD> zandaa, youre talking about changing the boot splash? before GDM is loaded?
[09:58] <meisam> bnD i see
[09:58] <bnD> zandaa, i dont think so :)
[09:58] <zandaa> bnD, yes
[09:58] <meisam> bnD may iask your age?
[09:58] <qip|Virusmaster> i need the notebook to suspend when the lid is being closed
[09:58] <bnD> meisam, 23, though i dont see how it's relevant?
[09:58] <gnomefreak> _jason? the nm.pl script after its loaded you run /set neat_colorize on?
[09:58] <meisam> bnD f/m ?
[09:58] <zandaa> bnD, it is possible I know, because XFCE changed my usplash too
[09:58] <bnD> meisam, offtopic, thanks though
[09:59] <bnD> zandaa, one sec.
[09:59] <GeekToe> 32mb done in 15 minutes
[09:59] <GeekToe> :\
[09:59] <jean> como eu fao o downloads de temas
[09:59] <meisam> bnD all right sorry...just askin`...sorry
[09:59] <ryjeq> hi
[09:59] <bnD> zandaa, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28splash%29 <- that should help you?
[09:59] <nalioth> jean: que idioma?
[09:59] <jean> portugues
[09:59] <zandaa> bnD, hm...
[09:59] <nalioth> !br
[09:59] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[10:00] <zandaa> bnD, I remember reading something about it on the board, but I cant seem to access it anymore
[10:00] <bnD> zandaa, this is the wiki, not the board, click the link ;) -> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto?highlight=%28splash%29
[10:00] <jean> portugues
[10:00] <moritz4> hello, anyone of you able to do wlan with centrinos in here?
[10:00] <aLeSD> someone use dvd
[10:00] <bnD> jean, Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[10:00] <zandaa> bnD,  "The PNG must be: 640x400 16 colours. (if you use the default vga16fb console mode)" so there is a way to change the amount of colors?
[10:01] <bnD> zandaa, i believe it must be 16
[10:01] <aLeSD> jean: eo falo portugues
[10:01] <jean> alesd
[10:01] <jean> fale ai entaum
[10:01] <jean> eu so novo nessa area de linux
[10:01] <mcphail> Seveas: what's the GPG key for your repo? The one on the wiki doesn't seem to work.
[10:01] <aLeSD> entau? #ubuntu-pt
[10:02] <pashaw> moritz4,  im using mine right now
[10:02] <bnD> mcphail, it should be listed in your sources.list
[10:02] <Seveas> mcphail, it should, otherwise go to the frontpage of the repo
[10:02] <sybec> Um .. hello ! How would one get a copy of the fluxbox theme used by nUbuntu [without um .. having the cd :)]  presented here: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/fb/NUbuntuscreen.jpg ?
[10:03] <newuser> how do I find/change the screen for login/password at boot up.
[10:03] <sybec> does anyone happen to have the cd and can um .. give me a copy ?
[10:03] <sybec> or is the theme publicly available somewhere ?
[10:03] <newuser> the default brown is drab.
[10:03] <bnD> sybec, ooooh, i didnt know of 'nubuntu' i use fluxbox ;)
[10:03] <_jason> newuser: system -admin - log in screen setup
[10:03] <sybec> you didn't ?
[10:03] <sybec> it's a livecd
[10:03] <bnD> sybec, ah :)
[10:03] <sybec> not a typeo
[10:03] <sybec> :)
[10:04] <sybec> -typo
[10:04] <sybec> however it's spelled.
[10:04] <_jason> newuser: gnome-look.org has more I believe
[10:04] <jean> vlw
[10:05] <newuser> _jason DOH that is where i seen it before.
[10:05] <mcphail> Seveas: the keyserver is timing out. I can't find your key on other keyservers. Would you PM me an ASCII version?
[10:05] <newuser> as I get familiar I will remember these things.
[10:05] <newuser> thanks again.
[10:06] <Seveas> mcphail, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/1135D466.gpg
[10:06] <HaRDaWaY> hi
[10:06] <ITSa341> HELP When I booted my laptop this morning it showed 3 updates ready to install. When I tried to install them I got this error message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . Any ideas?  I ran a search in the wiki and found nothing searching either titles or text.
[10:06] <x86x> Anyone able to help me with wireless setup?
[10:06] <x86x> Acx111 driver
[10:07] <mcphail> Seveas: thanks
[10:07] <ogdenous> hello
[10:07] <owner> try sudo apt-get clean
[10:07] <owner> itsa341
[10:07] <GeekToe> does ubuntu recognise the Broadcom 440x 10/100 Integrated Controller by default?
[10:08] <ogdenous> any can help on how ot add a pdf printer in 5.10?
[10:08] <bnD> i did a gentoo stage 1 install the other day, and after waiting for all the compile time, it ended up being >1.7gb and not much if at all faster than my ubuntu install
[10:08] <bnD> GeekToe, it should, it does mine
[10:08] <GeekToe> ok
[10:08] <bnD> cheloo, ?
[10:08] <owner> bnd i keep hearing good things about arch linux
[10:08] <bnD> ah.
[10:08] <owner> but i havent tried it yet..
[10:09] <bnD> owner, are you going to? :)
[10:09] <owner> i did download the iso
[10:09] <ITSa341> owner   ty
[10:09] <bnD> owner, i might try it out on my desktop, this is perfect for my laptop
[10:09] <bnD> <700mb full install
[10:10] <bnD> owner, what have you heard about it that makes it stand out?
[10:10] <owner> i just read some posts on the ubuntu forums recently
[10:10] <owner> someone was happy with it
[10:10] <ogdenous> anyone know how to setup a pdf printer?
[10:11] <Travis> I tried archlinux a while ago
[10:11] <Travis> did really like it
[10:11] <x86x> I want to use wireless on my pc, but acx111 built in drivers in breezy 5.10. I put in my wireless ssid name and wep password, then it says connecting and active but i cant visit any webpages
[10:11] <Travis> I am more into Debian/Ubuntu or Redhat based distros
[10:12] <hermatize> anyone here
[10:12] <hermatize> configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables.
[10:12] <Shadyman> hermatize: I'm not here.
[10:12] <hermatize> anyone know what might be causing that error
[10:12] <timfrost> ogdenous, look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/forum/software/cups-pdf
[10:12] <ogdenous> x86x  Try running dhclient eth0 or whatever eth your wireless is on
[10:13] <ogdenous> thanks tim
[10:13] <Freedomzen> Hello all I am having one problem with an otherwise great install, my artwiz fonts do not show up in the fonts diolauge, I have ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and enabled bitmap fonts but for some reason they are still not availiable also for some reason I do not have a /etc/fonts/local.conf any ideas?
[10:13] <JoeBlow> can someone help me out here with wine please, i got a program here that is supposedly supported (quake2), yet when i run install it freezes up and wont let me close it
[10:13] <timfrost> hermatize, do you have build-essential installed?  The error suggests that the compiler may not be installed.
[10:14] <hermatize> apt-get install build-essential
[10:14] <hermatize> no i didnt
[10:14] <hermatize> is that what it is
[10:15] <Freedomzen> JoeBlow: did you run winecfg?
[10:15] <hermatize> how do you make it so you dont have to type sudo before everythingf
[10:15] <bipolar> hmm... without mozilla, monodevelop is broken. can't install mozilla on dapper becouse of conflict with libnspr4... any ideas?
[10:16] <bipolar> hermatize: sudo -s to get a shell
[10:16] <JoeBlow> Freedomzen, yea but im not sure what im supposed to do in it
[10:16] <hermatize> na im sayin before u do like wgets
[10:16] <timfrost> hermatize, yes.  That is a meta-package that pulls in the compiler and other essential tools for building packages.  Note that you will also need to install development libraries needed by the package you are building.
[10:16] <hermatize> or apt
[10:16] <JoeBlow> Freedomzen, ive got video and sound drivers set in it, but thats all
[10:17] <Freedomzen> did you add the quake.exe file in the add applications diolauge?
[10:17] <Syco54645> why does the updater say that it "cannot get an exclusive lock" when synaptic (or anything related to apt) are not open?
[10:18] <Freedomzen> I would also just try and run it with wine /path/to/.exe file
[10:18] <hermatize> im trying to install php from source
[10:18] <hermatize> now its complaining about libxml2
[10:18] <hermatize> butt its already installed
[10:18] <selinium> hermatize, why?
[10:18] <JoeBlow> Freedomzen, im on the setup part, and i have the Setup.exe in it
[10:18] <hermatize> because im having this stupid problem with my cacti install
[10:19] <hermatize> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_pconnect() in /var/www/cacti-0.8.6h/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 355
[10:19] <selinium> hermatize, You will need the dev level package
[10:19] <Freedomzen> anyone have an idea on my artwiz-fonts problem? I am missing snap :D
[10:19] <hermatize> of php?
[10:19] <JoeBlow> freedinzen, i get it start up, but it freezes mid install
[10:19] <selinium> hermatize, of the libxml
[10:19] <zandaa> oh, no... I can't access ubuntuforums.org
[10:20] <JoeBlow> freedomzen, i get it start up, but it freezes mid install
[10:20] <hermatize> does apt have it in repos
[10:20] <owner> yeah its down again zandaa
[10:20] <JoeBlow> and i cant get a certain window to close, not even with xkill
[10:20] <owner> do sudo killall -9
[10:20] <owner> joe
[10:20] <skierkegaard> how can i mount a windows networt share with ubuntu
[10:20] <zandaa> owner: that plain sucks, cuz I was reading up on some customization tips etc.
[10:20] <owner> it should be up eventually zandaa
[10:20] <mwe> zandaa: it's been up and down, up and down ... today
[10:20] <owner> but ive noticed they are down a lot nowdays
[10:20] <zandaa> mwe: I know
[10:21] <mwe> zandaa: it's annoying
[10:21] <hermatize> configure: error: xml2-config not found. Please check your libxml2 installation.
[10:21] <zandaa> mwe: that's the exact same as it was couple a months ago (my last linux boot up till now *feels ashamed*)
[10:21] <selinium> Freedomzen, have you   sudo fc-cache
[10:21] <hermatize> and i just installed the dev
[10:21] <hermatize> libxml-dev
[10:22] <Freedomzen> selinium: yes
[10:22] <selinium> hermatize, If you try to build from source and it complains about a missing package, install the dev level package.
[10:22] <hermatize> i just did
[10:22] <newuser> ogdenous I have to step in a say thanks. I have been trying to get my broadcom wireless card to tx/rx. I get nothing. It would see the ap. I did(Try running dhclient eth0 or whatever eth your wireless is on) it works.
[10:22] <hermatize> still no go
[10:22] <hermatize> anything else it could be
[10:22] <skierkegaard> what is the easiest way to mount a windows network share with ubuntu
[10:22] <Freedomzen> selinium: I did that and I did the reconfigure on fontconfig
[10:22] <e-vanjelos> how can i install and run the c shell on my newly installed ubuntu??
[10:22] <selinium> hermatize, I thought it was complaining about libxml2 ?
[10:22] <zandaa> hey mwe? is a swap partition necessary?
[10:23] <selinium> Freedomzen, What kind of font is it? THey are TTF files?
[10:23] <hermatize> i thought it was same thing
[10:23] <Freedomzen> selinium: no artwiz they are bitmap
[10:23] <JoeBlow> what does xkill mean select wich window you want to close with the button 1, how do i use the button 1 to close an app?
[10:23] <mwe> zandaa: no. adviceable
[10:23] <zandaa> mwe hehe, cuz I didn't <_<
[10:23] <hermatize> selinium: you know what it could be
[10:23] <zandaa> mwe what's the use of the swap partition anyway?
[10:23] <mwe> zandaa: it will work without it
[10:23] <newuser> damn I spoke too soon.
[10:23] <Freedomzen> JoeBlow: just click on the window with the mouse
[10:24] <newuser> wireless not working.
[10:24] <newuser> damn. soo close.
[10:24] <JoeBlow> Freedomzen, doesnt work :( nothing short of rebooting closes the window
[10:24] <zandaa> mwe obviously I know it works without swap >_< but what's the use of swap anyway?
[10:24] <_jason> JoeBlow: what is it
[10:24] <mwe> zandaa: i works like extra ram. stuff that's not currently used can be swapped to make memory available to programs that need it
[10:24] <selinium> Freedomzen, I dont konw if you can use bitmap fonts in Ubuntu.
[10:24] <selinium> biab
[10:24] <Freedomzen> well I enabled bitmap in fontconfig
[10:25] <topyli> why oh why does the mplayer plugin want to (unsuccessfully) try and play real content when i have realplayer installed too?
[10:25] <zandaa> mwe ah I see, would you know how to get GRUB out of the MBR and into it's own partition?
[10:25] <mwe> zandaa: bad things like seg faults will happen if you run out of memory
[10:25] <e-vanjelos> i ve downloaded tcsh and i have not a clue on how to install it??
[10:25] <mwe> zandaa: yes, but how would you boot then?
[10:25] <hermatize> with the RMA lady i spoke with?
[10:25] <afief> why do i suddenly need a password to check my network shared files???
[10:25] <rocha__> .
[10:25] <zandaa> mwe... I don't know yet
[10:25] <JoeBlow> _jason, quake 2 setup in wine
[10:25] <x86x> I tried eth0 but wireless is on wan0
[10:26] <_jason> JoeBlow: I have no clue, maybe someone else can help.  or search the forums, that has probably been done there
[10:26] <mwe> zandaa: you can use a boot floppy and get rid of grub if you like
[10:26] <zandaa> mwe ok, and how would I do that?
[10:26] <JoeBlow> _jason, everyone just uses xkill, and for some reason it just doesnt work
[10:26] <JoeBlow> time to reboot
[10:26] <JoeBlow> agian
[10:26] <Freedomzen> JoeBlow: you know about the Quake2 in the repos?
[10:26] <_jason> JoeBlow: oh lol I thought you were asking me how to set it up
[10:26] <JoeBlow> _jason, lol
[10:26] <_jason> JoeBlow: don't reboot
[10:27] <JoeBlow> Freedomzen, not really
[10:27] <e-vanjelos> i ve downloaded tcsh and i have not a clue on how to install it,, please help someone  me??
[10:27] <afief> why do i suddenly need a password to check my network shared files???
[10:27] <JoeBlow> _jason, then how do i get it to close
[10:27] <_jason> JoeBlow: umm how about killall wine?
[10:27] <shellofinsanity> would anyone be able to help me with a problem?
[10:27] <timfrost> e-vanjelos, did you download asource, or a .deb?  because tcsh is in the main repositiry, and should install with sudo apt-get install tcsh
[10:27] <_jason> !helpme
[10:27] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[10:27] <cheloo> why  courier install no longer includes the right auth modules for the qmr install
[10:27] <cheloo> and how can i fix it ?
[10:27] <e-vanjelos> i downloaded a file with .tar.gz extension
[10:28] <Freedomzen> !helpme artwiz-fonts
[10:28] <ubotu> Freedomzen: I give up, what is it?
[10:28] <JoeBlow> _jason, doesnt work
[10:28] <Freedomzen> :D
[10:28] <shellofinsanity> im comming from XP, I set up my wireless network, but when it connects it forces the wireless modem to disconnect
[10:28] <cheloo> e-vanjelos so what ?
[10:28] <Freedomzen> !helpme how to set up artwiz-fonts
[10:28] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Freedomzen
[10:28] <shellofinsanity> right now im on my XP install because when linux boots i loose net
[10:28] <_jason> JoeBlow: I'm not sure how wine works, try 'ps aux | grep wine', then 'ps aux | grep quake', then just 'ps aux' and see if you can find it
[10:29] <cheloo> shellofinsanity have you got the right drivers installed ? and also your account details  ?
[10:29] <shellofinsanity> i used the default F5D7000 drivers
[10:29] <e-vanjelos> im new in these things i dont haev a clue how to install the tcsh on my machine...the file i downloaded has an extension of .tar.gz...
[10:29] <timfrost> e-vanjelos, that sounds like a source package that you would need to build.  I suggest that you install the version from the repository, using 'sudo apt-get install tcsh'.  That guarantees to be compatible, and is supported.
[10:29] <mwe> e-vanjelos: tar zxvf file.tar.gz will extract it
[10:30] <shellofinsanity> they are IP 192.168.1.65  Subnet 355.255.255.0 gateway 192.168.1.254 DNS 192.168.1.254 hostname Phil.gateway.2wrie.net
[10:30] <mwe> e-vanjelos: however sudo apt-get install tcsh will install it
[10:30] <e-vanjelos> timfrost can u guide me through??
[10:30] <glacious> any updates on the dapper tree?  preferably stuff related to X and apt-get acting up?  =)
[10:30] <mwe> Electr0_cYpH3r: you don't need to install it from source
[10:30] <shellofinsanity> subent 255.255.255.0
[10:30] <mwe> e-vanjelos: you don't need to install it from source
[10:30] <Freedomzen> Hello all I am having one problem with an otherwise great install, my artwiz fonts do not show up in the fonts diolauge, I have ran dpkg-reconfigure fontconfig and enabled bitmap fonts but for some reason they are still not availiable also for some reason I do not have a /etc/fonts/local.conf any ideas?
[10:30] <glacious> is there a place to read through the devel discussion on dapper?  like an up to the moment forum or something current.
[10:30] <mwe> e-vanjelos: just use the ubuntu package
[10:30] <hermatize> anyone ever compile php from source
[10:31] <e-vanjelos> so mwe can u guide me through??
[10:31] <gahan> !ubuntu
[10:31] <ubotu> rumour has it, ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[10:31] <mwe> Freedomzen: I don't have /etc/fonts/local.conf either. artwiz works though
[10:31] <shellofinsanity> any ideas what could be wrong, i know the wireless modems internal netwoark address is 192.168.1.254
[10:31] <mwe> e-vanjelos: sudo apt-get install tcsh
[10:32] <sm> question: with default font set to 11-point sans-serif in both firefox and epiphany, why is firefox's text much smaller ?
[10:32] <Freedomzen> mwe: interesting
[10:32] <e-vanjelos> where tio type that??
[10:32] <ppd> pitti: hi. did you have a look at the logs? probably? :)
[10:32] <sm> firefox dpi is 96, which seems to be the system setting also
[10:32] <JoeBlow> _jason, none of this stuff works
[10:33] <JoeBlow> _jason, its just easier to reboot
[10:33] <shellofinsanity> would any of my settings force the modem to disconnect?
[10:33] <mwe> Freedomzen: is the font path correct in /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[10:34] <meisam> i have read the wiki, i couldn`t install the wiki
[10:34] <Travis> I am trying to compiling something and it gives me a whole bunch of these errors before finally failing
[10:34] <Travis> SSLeay.c:6848: error: 'SSL' undeclared (first use in this function)
[10:34] <Travis> for example ^
[10:34] <Freedomzen> mwe: checking now
[10:34] <timfrost> e-vanjelos, open a terminal (Applications->Accessories->Terminal).  You will be asked 'Install these packages without verification [y/N] ? '  answer Y to that questin.  The install will proceed, and you will then be able to run /usr/bin/tcsh
[10:34] <e-vanjelos> thnx
[10:34] <e-vanjelos> ill try it
[10:35] <meisam> eclipse installation command, can anybody help me?
[10:35] <cheloo> does anyone knows a guide to build Courier Mail Server with all  portions of Courier - the mail filtering engine, the webmail server and IMAP server in ubuntu ?
[10:35] <BrickMaker> hi
[10:35] <BrickMaker> i can't play video on my mplayer
[10:35] <shellofinsanity> does anyone know a soloution to my problem?
[10:35] <jariep1_> how do i change to a different already installed java version in ubuntu?
[10:36] <meisam> jason...are u there?
[10:36] <meisam> problem in installing the eclipse
[10:36] <meisam> how?
[10:36] <x86x> Is anyone using an acx111 wireless card?
[10:36] <_jason> meisam: search synaptic for eclipse
[10:36] <Bricker> is there any codec problem with my mplayer thats why i was unable to watch movie
[10:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell meisam about synatpic
[10:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell meisam about synaptic
[10:36] <mwe> Freedomzen: you need /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/fonts/misc in there
[10:36] <drunkpikachu> Does anyone happen to know if there is a quick fix for my kernel boot-up no longer being verbose?
[10:37] <ultramancool> hi
[10:37] <Kareem> 
[10:38] <Bricker> why i can't play any vdo on my mplayer
[10:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell Bricker about multimedia
[10:38] <mwe> vdo?
[10:38] <Bricker> a vdo file
[10:38] <_jason> oh thought that was a typo, sorry
[10:39] <mwe> Bricker: I don't know that type. Generally you need codecs to play files though
[10:39] <Bricker> mwe,  you are 100% right
[10:39] <Kareem> h
[10:39] <Bricker> i was asking about codec but no body response
[10:39] <jaylee> asking what  hello iam new
[10:40] <mwe> Bricker: is it a win32 codec?
[10:40] <_jason> Bricker: do you have the ones on that page ubotu sent you?  That is all I have ever had to install along with w32
[10:40] <Bricker> i don't know, i'm newbie
[10:40] <Bricker> _jason, i'm on the page let me read it 1st
[10:40] <jaylee>  nice too kno
[10:40] <glacious> hrmm, both my SATA and ATA drive read/write speeds are horribly low for what they should be.
[10:41] <glacious> ATA is like 48MB/s, SATA drive is 50.2 MB/s
[10:41] <glacious> theres gotta be something wrong with the OS running the controllers, or some BIOS setting.
[10:41] <jaylee>  yea  well ask me anything  cos my dad is a computer technian
[10:41] <cheloo> does anyone knows a guide to build Courier Mail Server ?
[10:42] <jaylee> my dad does
[10:42] <Bricker> when ever i open mp3 file so totem movie player opens and give me a error were no decoders found to handle the stream,
[10:42] <jaylee>  well bricker  u want mp3
[10:42] <Bricker> if i'm opening it with xmms its working fine
[10:43] <jaylee> oh
[10:43] <jaylee> strange
[10:43] <x86x> Does anyone use a acx111 wireless card that got it working?
[10:43] <mwe> Bricker: yeah. there is a lack of standardization of how programs uses codecs and such
[10:43] <cheloo> no one knows ?
[10:43] <goldenboy> hello, ouy must install the w32codecs
[10:44] <cheloo> ok
[10:44] <cheloo> k
[10:44] <lightdifference> hey, can anyone tell me or lead me to a tutorial on how to get vsftpd set up/working with users on Apache?
[10:44] <Bricker> i'm following the page ubotu told me
[10:44] <cheloo> does anyone knopw a mail server guide ( any mail server ) ?
[10:44] <pashaw> Bricker,  type    sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda   or sda   make sure DMA is enabled
[10:44] <jaylee>  ok    iwas just chicking  i on  every one gtg
[10:44] <lightdifference> does...anyone know?
[10:44] <pashaw> Bricker,   sorry  wrong name  weird
[10:45] <_jason> pashaw: I think you meant glacious
[10:45] <Bricker> its ok!
[10:45] <pashaw> _jason,   yeah auto complete  did  then i didnt check  :(
[10:46] <pashaw> glacious,   did you get that   sudo hdparm -d /dev/hda  or sda  check if DMA is on
[10:47] <etnoy> does anybody here know anything about extended POSIX acl:s?
[10:47] <FarrisG> are there any DECENT opensource hosting Control Panel tools?
[10:48] <max> jemand deutsch hier?
[10:48] <etnoy> I have a problem with that files are created with incorrect permissions
[10:48] <_jason> !de
[10:48] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:48] <etnoy> max: ja doch
[10:48] <max> hab mein gnome zerstrt... :(
[10:48] <max> wei nich. bissle mit ner fluxbox rumgespielt (fbpanel,docker,...)
[10:48] <etnoy> max: ich bin keinen geborenen Deutschsprecher, aber hoffensichtlic kann ich dir helfen
[10:48] <Dreamglider> i need libmp3lame.so where do i get it ?
[10:48] <etnoy> :)
[10:48] <JoeBlow> its weird, u have to run wine through sudo right? but when i do, it doesnt run everything, like it attempts to when i dont use sudo
[10:48] <FarrisG> max: Ich bin amerikaner, aber ich spreche deutsch
[10:49] <max> passt sicherlich
[10:49] <max> und jetz hab ich keine menleisten mehr in den fenstern und meine panels (gnome-panel) tun nich mehr richtig und die flchenumschalter auch nicht!
[10:49] <mwe> JoeBlow: don't run wine with sudo
[10:50] <foampeace> anyone know how to make k3b burn from mp3 to audio cd?
[10:50] <JoeBlow> mwe, ok
[10:50] <etnoy> max: hm, hast du ins datei ~/.fluxbox viel gendert?
[10:50] <toyr> anyone ever install tidy before? (and have it work?)
[10:50] <mwe> foampeace: install k3b-mp3
[10:50] <merhamet> 24 m from turkey tunacaves hotmail.com
[10:50] <foampeace> mwe: i installed that
[10:50] <max> schon bisschen was.
[10:50] <max> aber nur themes
[10:50] <etnoy> max versuch mv ~/.fluxbox ~/.fluxbox2 und tu ein Restart
[10:51] <max> also wei nich mehr so recht
[10:51] <max> ^^
[10:51] <mwe> !de
[10:51] <etnoy> max: :)
[10:51] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:51] <etnoy> max: we should speak English :P
[10:51] <newuser> ok, broadcom wireless card appears to be working but I can't surf. It sees the ap and gives a 100% sig strength.
[10:51] <max> k
[10:51] <JoeBlow> mwe, If i dont, it tells me "Setup has detected the install shield is already in use, please close it then try again" , And its not
[10:51] <etnoy> or try #ubuntu-de
[10:51] <newuser> whats up.
[10:51] <max> coulfd be a problem
[10:51] <max> ;)
[10:51] <windowful> Does Ubuntu have a net install that can boot off of floppies?
[10:51] <etnoy> I always like speaking German
[10:51] <hyphenated> newuser: did you get an IP address off it?
[10:52] <pashaw> newuser,   can you ping the ap's ip?
[10:52] <foampeace> mwe: i installed k3b-mp3 but it says unsuppored format when i click on them
[10:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: I don't know. did you run wine with sudo the first time?
[10:52] <JoeBlow> mwe, yea
[10:52] <max> but i try to add a new user, maybe its ok then
[10:52] <newuser> think i remember pinging the ap
[10:52] <etnoy> okay, so does anybody have some experience with extended acl:s and why files are created with incorrect perms?
[10:52] <mwe> JoeBlow: .wine has wrong permissions then
[10:52] <JoeBlow> mwe, so how do i fix it?
[10:52] <newuser> i have been doing quite a bit today. sorry
[10:52] <hyphenated> newuser: do you use DHCP to get an IP address, or statically assign one?
[10:53] <pashaw> newuser,   if you can ping the ap  then your connected and have a gateway or dns issue
[10:53] <newuser> dhcp
[10:53] <mwe> JoeBlow: sudo chown -R JoeBlow:JoeBlow ~/.wine
[10:53] <newuser> i do get an ip.
[10:53] <hyphenated> can you ping the gateway and dns servers?
[10:53] <selinium> Freedomzen, Did you fing a solution
[10:53] <selinium> ?
[10:53] <WildTangent> gah...cant join #ubuntuforums, anyone else noticed?
[10:53] <mwe> JoeBlow: or whatever your login name is
[10:53] <burhan> exit
[10:53] <hyphenated> do you have a 'default route'? (ie.. route -n has one line starting with 0.0.0.0)
[10:53] <newuser> switching over to see how far out i can ping
[10:54] <arrinmurr> windowful: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=29555
[10:54] <loolita> i would like to know if there is any tool that allows people to create they own email account on my server , like i am yahoo :) any ideea ? ( i found something on qmail site but it only works with qmail :) ) i`m running postfix
[10:54] <selinium> WildTangent, user limit reached
[10:54] <newuser> no route 0.0.0.0
[10:54] <WildTangent> i noticed...but...its never been full before :S
[10:54] <WildTangent> and thats my hangout :)
[10:54] <JoeBlow> mwe, hah! That fixed it, thanks so much
[10:54] <windowful> arrinmurr, ty
[10:54] <Bricker> i have done it _jason
[10:55] <hyphenated> newuser: can you put the output of the following commands into a pastebin? iwconfig, ifconfig, route -n, tail /var/log/messages
[10:55] <Bricker> but when i'm in full screen mode but the size is still medium
[10:55] <superchode|fu> WildTangent: try now
[10:55] <WildTangent> booya!
[10:55] <superchode|fu> 2tru
[10:55] <WildTangent> im not leaving now :)
[10:55] <hyphenated> newuser: oh, and cat /etc/resolv.conf
[10:56] <pashaw> newuser,  are you going to tell us what you just ping'd that has no route?
[10:56] <Bricker> how can i make my screen size bigger
[10:56] <Bricker> of mplayer
[10:56] <hyphenated> pashaw: he could probably ping things on his subnet
[10:57] <Bricker> i try full screen but nothing happend
[10:57] <hyphenated> Bricker: it stays the same size, with huge black borders?
[10:57] <Bricker> not borders
[10:57] <mwe> Bricker: gmplayer -zoom IIRC
[10:57] <Bricker> huge black space
[10:57] <newuser> sorry was thinking of something else when i replied no route.
[10:58] <newuser> i am surfing wireless now
[10:58] <Bricker> ok mwe
[10:58] <loolita> did i ask a really hard question ?
[10:58] <hyphenated> Bricker: yeah, that's what I meant. can you do this for me? grep ^vo /etc/mplayer/mplayer.conf ?
[10:58] <hyphenated> Bricker: it's probably using the 'x11' video output driver, instead of a better one, like 'xv'
[10:58] <Bricker> fialed to open IIRC
[10:59] <beruic> What does it mean that Ubuntu runs unstable Debian?
[10:59] <e-vanjelos> how can i test if tsch is installed properly ..ive already installed but when im trying to run gcc command it shows me command not found..please help me
[10:59] <mwe> loolita: there are different web mail solutions out there. do a google search
[10:59] <hyphenated> beruic: it means you were misinformed :-)
[10:59] <hyphenated> beruic: debian has three branches "stable", "testing" and "unstable"
[10:59] <loolita> mwe well a webmail interface i have already but its  just to " log in "
[11:00] <loolita> mwe i want another one so they can " sing up "
[11:00] <pashaw> loolita,   closest ive ever used would be squirrelmail     but the admin would still create the accounts for both squirrelmail and postfix
[11:00] <timfrost> e-vanjelos, if you did the apt-get install tcsh, then you don't need to compile anything.  What happens if you run /usr/bin/tcsh?
[11:00] <beruic> hyphenated: And unstable means that there is a tiny chance that my debian system will crash?
[11:00] <Bricker> i got this hyphenated " vo=x11,                 # To specify default video driver (see -vo help for
[11:00] <Bricker>  "
[11:00] <loolita> pashaw heloooo ? are you listening to what im saying ?
[11:01] <hyphenated> beruic: it means it's brand new, stability of it is not really known
[11:01] <loolita> pashaw that is to " manage " the server  it will not allow people to create they own email
[11:01] <beruic> hyphenated: I thought so...
[11:01] <xx86xx> what is the password for ubuntu to login to su?
[11:01] <e-vanjelos> logins
[11:01] <hyphenated> beruic: in general, the fact that it's no a particular 'branch' doesn't mean anything in terms of software quality or stability
[11:01] <loolita> pashaw its like i am yahoo or hotmal , you get me know ?
[11:01] <e-vanjelos> but then i want to compile a hello.c file
[11:01] <dooglus> xx86xx: use sudo, and your own password.  root's password is locked.
[11:01] <pashaw> loolita,  good luck with that attitude
[11:01] <JoeBlow> how do i add full write premission to the root directory? it jsut lets me write to the main folder, none of the subfolders
[11:01] <loolita> pashaw squirrelmail  its shit anyway
[11:02] <beruic> hyphenated: What ever, it works...
[11:02] <hyphenated> Bricker: so, just for a laugh, run these commands: mkdir ~/.mplayer; echo "vo=xv" > ~/.mplayer/config
[11:02] <loolita> pashaw well if you dont know , dont start chatting
[11:02] <dooglus> JoeBlow: you don't want global write permissions everywhere
[11:02] <hyphenated> Bricker: oops, use >> not >
[11:02] <JoeBlow> dooglus, otherwise, it wont let me install quake 2 into it
[11:02] <_jason> Bricker: did it work?
[11:02] <Bricker> nope
[11:02] <dooglus> JoeBlow: use "checkinstall" to install it?
[11:02] <Bricker> mkdir: cannot create directory `/home/saif/.mplayer': File exists
[11:03] <xx86xx> so i cant login into root on a live cd?
[11:03] <hyphenated> Bricker: do you have a file ~/.mplayer/config alread?
[11:03] <JeffreyDosSantos> hello all
[11:03] <hyphenated> alread
[11:03] <hyphenated> bugger. already
[11:03] <dooglus> JoeBlow: if that doesn't work, you can use "sudo make install" - sudo runs stuff as root, so it can write anywhere.
[11:03] <Bricker> thats what it saying
[11:03] <hyphenated> alrighty. grep ^vo ~/.mplayer/config
[11:04] <dooglus> JoeBlow: "sudo checkinstall" is nicer, because it makes a .deb package of everything that gets installed - that way you can remove it cleanly too
[11:04] <JoeBlow> dooglus, alright
[11:04] <dooglus> xx86xx: you can get a root shell if you "sudo -i"
[11:04] <JoeBlow> dooglus, how do i use it iwth wine
[11:04] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I'm teetotal
[11:04] <JeffreyDosSantos> I have installed Ubuntu Dapper but I have not installed the boot loader. Im using GRUB from my previous debian SID installation. Anyway, Im receiving an error saying that my parameter (root=/dev/hdc3) is wrong. But that was how the Ubuntu partition is recognized inside Debian and that was the way that the installation procure told me to procced... Anyone can help me?
[11:04] <JoeBlow> dooglus. huh?
[11:05] <rBo3Db> In Ubuntu, is there a GUI frontend for setting up Internet access through ADSL connection?
[11:05] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I mean I don't do wine, alcohol 120% or any of those evil things
[11:05] <tankkiller_> I cant get gftp on, ive read a fre places all tell me to use apt-get but It wont work
[11:05] <tankkiller_> is it cuase I am on the newest kernel?
[11:05] <JoeBlow> dooglus, evil?
[11:05] <JoeBlow> dooglus, hows gaming in linux evil?
[11:05] <tankkiller_> is there another ftp  client for gnome?
[11:05] <Bricker> hyphenated, its still same
[11:05] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I'm probably just jealous.  my graphics card isn't up to gaming anyway...
[11:05] <dooglus> !ftp
[11:05] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[11:06] <tankkiller_> any idea why apt-get wont allow me to install gftp?
[11:06] <JoeBlow> dooglus, its quake2, it can run on your cpu alone
[11:06] <hyphenated> Bricker: that's no good. can you put the output of 'mplayer -vo xv /path/to/file' into a pastebin?
[11:06] <ubuntu_> Hi all
[11:07] <Bricker> ya
[11:07] <ubuntu_> leave #ubuntu
[11:07] <tankkiller_> I just would like to get some FTP happenin
[11:07] <dooglus> JoeBlow: I don't know.  about a year ago something very odd happened to the graphics card.  it's like it had a stroke or something.  it runs in a very slow way now, in both windows and linux.
[11:07] <timfrost> tankkiller_, it is in the ubiverse repository, which is not enabled by default.
[11:07] <JoeBlow> dooglus, weird
[11:07] <timfrost> !tell tankkiller_ -about repos
[11:07] <e-vanjelos> i want to compile a hello.c file in the tcsh but when im trying to run 'gcc -o hello.c hello' it shows command not found
[11:08] <dooglus> JoeBlow: yes.  if it was just windows or just linux I'd blame it on a dodgy update - but happened to both at the same time was just weird.
[11:08] <JoeBlow> dooglus, this might sound strange, but r u running a really good power supply? cause ive heard of powersupplies going bad and not being able to get enough voltage to graphics cards and that messing them up
[11:08] <dooglus> e-vanjelos: did you install "build-essential"?
[11:08] <Bricker> well still facing the same problem
[11:08] <e-vanjelos> not what is that dooglus
[11:08] <hermatize> anyone use cacti in here
[11:08] <dooglus> e-vanjelos: I would recommend against using tcsh by the way.
[11:09] <JoeBlow> hermatize, like peyote?
[11:09] <hermatize> no
[11:09] <jenda> hermatize: what's cacti?
[11:09] <dooglus> e-vanjelos: it's stuff that's essential for building programs...
[11:09] <hermatize> www.cacti.net
[11:09] <GeekToe> argh it's been 41 minutes and ubuntu's only 20% donw
[11:09] <GeekToe> >;\
[11:09] <e-vanjelos> how to do it then dooglus?
[11:09] <e-vanjelos> can u guide me through?
[11:09] <dooglus> e-vanjelos: just type "sudo apt-get install build-essential" and type YOUR password if it prompts for one
[11:11] <hermatize> Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_pconnect() in /var/www/cacti-0.8.6h/lib/adodb/drivers/adodb-mysql.inc.php on line 355
[11:11] <hermatize> anyone know what that could be
[11:11] <JoeBlow> how do i allow all users to write to a drive?
[11:12] <dooglus> JoeBlow: "man chmod" <-- that'll tell you about changing permissions
[11:12] <Bricker> hyphenated, is this correct vo=xv,sdl,x11?
[11:13] <dooglus> JoeBlow: "sudo chmod -R a+w /path/to/drive" is the short answer, but make sure you're not changing stuff which should be read-only
[11:13] <xx86xx> how do you set a hwaddr for a wireless card or host name so the router picks it up?
[11:13] <bimberi> hermatize: (guessing to some extent) do you have php4-mysql (or php5-mysql) installed?
[11:13] <JoeBlow> dooglus, alright thanks
[11:14] <source> .m;.m./,/,/.,./
[11:14] <ki4ikl> i have a simple tech 160 gi gharddrive and before it worked, but now it shows up in device manager and it wont show up on the desktop, what isup?
[11:15] <ki4ikl> Does anyo9ne know much about my external usb drive problem??///
[11:16] <hermatize> bimberi: Yup
[11:16] <hermatize> bimberi: php5-mysql
[11:16] <bimberi> hermatize: ok :|
[11:16] <ki4ikl> Anyone, please, i really need this drive running
[11:17] <Bricker> how can i install php sql on my ubuntu
[11:17] <JoeBlow> yea!!! I got quake 2 running in linux!! took me like 2 weeks
[11:17] <pashaw> !tell Bricker about lamp
[11:17] <chillywilly> when I go to places -> network servers I don't see any of the winblows shares like I used to...what do you guys think the problem is? Both smblcient and using ctrl+l then typing in a smb:// url work but not using the network servers menu option, also when I explicitly navigate my way to the "workgroup" I get an error saying it cannot display "Windows Netwok: my_work_group_name"
[11:17] <yggdrasil> Will ubuntu help me get the ladies ?
[11:18] <chillywilly> my /etc/hosts file is setup correctly too , AFAIK
[11:18] <Bricker> and how can i set mp3 default application
[11:19] <tony__> !tell grub
[11:19] <bimberi> hermatize: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=18514
[11:19] <bimberi> !defaultapp
[11:19] <ubotu> To change the default app for a filetype in Nautilus, right-click on a file, select Properties, then the "Open With" tab and change the setting
[11:19] <tony__> !tell tony__ about grub
[11:19] <ki4ikl> I have s simpletech external harddrive, it shows up in /dev and in device manager, but wont come on the desktop what is up with that, anyone know
[11:20] <pashaw> ki4ikl, did you remove desktop drive icons?
[11:20] <hyphenated> Bricker: I have mine set to just xo=xv
[11:20] <ki4ikl> no, i have a fresh install, , and it worked with ubuntu before
[11:21] <ki4ikl> brb gonna log in as root pashaw, kay?
[11:21] <ITSa341> HELP  When  I got up this morning my laptop said there were 3 updates ready to install. I try installing them and I get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . I cleared the apt-get with "sudo apt-get clean" and tried again. Same error. I searched the wiki and found nothing. Anyone got any ideas??
[11:21] <pashaw> ki4ikl, wait
[11:21] <ki4ikl> okay pashaw
[11:21] <ki4ikl> any ideas
[11:21] <chillywilly> I can definitely mount smb shares but it would be nice if I could browse the windows network like I used to be able to
[11:21] <pashaw> ki4ikl,   try adding the disks to your upper task bar       right click add
[11:22] <chillywilly> without using an explicit smb:// url or smbclient
[11:22] <topyli> nothing seams to stream very well lately. all web media content stops for a while for buffering, in realplayer, and in mplayer
[11:22] <Zen> How do a set a directory to allow other users to modify it (like /var/www in my case--want my main user to be able to modify it)
[11:22] <saara> is there a way to make libgphoto connect to my canon camera? breezy connected to it without problems, but dapper "bitches...
[11:22] <aLeSD> someone use vlc to watch dvd?
[11:22] <aLeSD> because I cannot see them
[11:22] <pashaw> ki4ikl,  if it still wont appear there listed with the normal drives in fstab then you have more to work with
[11:23] <Zen> aLeSD: make sure you've got libdvdcss2 installed
[11:23] <Syco54645> whey can i not find  libqt3c102-mt in the repos?
[11:23] <ki4ikl> it still wont appear, it did before with breezy
[11:23] <tankkiller_> I tried doing the repositories, it still has failed dependencies
[11:23] <pashaw> ki4ikl,   your using dapper?
[11:23] <tankkiller_> for gftp
[11:23] <ki4ikl> breezy
[11:23] <ki4ikl> what do ya mean fstab
[11:24] <topyli> Syco54645: because there's no such library
[11:24] <ki4ikl> pashaw, would i thelp if i partitioned it XD
[11:24] <Syco54645> topyli: um then synaptic is on crack because it says that lincvs depends on it
[11:24] <Syco54645> topyli: lincvs: Depends: libqt3c102-mt (>=3:3.3.3) but it is not installable
[11:25] <rBo3D1> In Ubuntu or GNOME in general, is there a GUI frontend or some terminal backend for setting up an ADSL connection to Internet? I'm used to `pppoeconf,' but vmware's Ubuntu-based Browser Application doesn't seem to have `pppoeconf' command... Sorry, if there's been an answer: got disconnected by mistake...
[11:25] <aLeSD> Zen: I cannot find it in my repository .. why?
[11:25] <topyli> Syco54645: so it seems
[11:25] <chillywilly> even running smbtree shows all the shares on the windows network
[11:25] <ki4ikl> pashaw would it help if i partitioned it
[11:25] <tony__> hi! need help with grub.. how do i know what hd number ie (hdX=n,0) my xp hd and partition are at? i need to know for the menu.lst. i know where my hd is in the /dev/ catalogue.. thanx!
[11:25] <chillywilly> but nautilus won't
[11:25] <Syco54645> topyli: and searching on google gives me results
[11:25] <bimberi> ITSa341: try downloading a the deb via http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.12-10 and putting it in that directory, then retry the command
[11:25] <armosfighter> i need help installing azureus
[11:25] <topyli> Syco54645: maybe so, but apt doesn't :)
[11:25] <armosfighter> because its a bz2 fiel
[11:25] <bimberi> !azureus
[11:25] <ubotu> rumour has it, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:25] <pashaw> ki4ikl,  checking google     havent had that problem before
[11:25] <sethk> tony__, for ide, primary master is hd0, slave hd1, secondary master hd2, secondary slave hd3
[11:25] <armosfighter> gracias
[11:25] <sethk> tony__, the partitions are 0, 1, 2, etc.
[11:26] <tankkiller_> gah
[11:26] <SpecialBuddy> does anyone here know about red hat 9 and if there is some kind of package manager I can use in order to get things
[11:26] <tankkiller_> this is silly
[11:26] <ki4ikl> i don't have a partition on it pashaw, would it help if i put one on there?
[11:26] <sethk> SpecialBuddy, you mean to use rh9 packages with ubuntu?
[11:26] <shredhead15> hi does anyone know how to make ubuntu work with a ps/2 mouse?
[11:26] <SpecialBuddy> no
[11:26] <aLeSD> !libdvdcss2
[11:26] <ubotu> I guess libdvdcss2 is to enable DVD playback, read and use this local file for libdvdcss2 /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh   Don't have this file? Install "libdvdread3"
[11:26] <chillywilly> hmmm
[11:26] <sethk> shredhead15, it works automatically with a ps/2 mouse
[11:26] <tony__> sethk: what would for example hdc1 and hdc be?
[11:26] <SpecialBuddy> I use ubuntu but I have to use redhat 9 in my class
[11:27] <sethk> tony__, hdc is hd2, hdc1 is (hd2,0)
[11:27] <SpecialBuddy> and I want to get things like gaim and stuff but I don't know how
[11:27] <SpecialBuddy> that's why I was wondering if there were something like synaptic
[11:27] <Bricker> how can open vdo file always in mplayer
[11:27] <sethk> SpecialBuddy, you mean to use with red hat?
[11:27] <loolita> why courier-imap doesnt support AUTHMODULES="authvchkpw" ?   and how can i fix it ?
[11:27] <Syco54645> top
[11:27] <shredhead15> sethk  do you have any idea why mine would not be working then
[11:27] <Syco54645> topyli: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=77009 seems that apt is messed up then because you cant have them both installed.
[11:28] <tankkiller_> !ftp
[11:28] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[11:28] <sethk> shredhead15, no, I've never seen a situation where the ps/2 mouse didn't work.  Sometimes usb mice are tricky, but never ps/2.
[11:28] <SpecialBuddy> yeah
[11:28] <sethk> shredhead15, it's the normal ps/2 mouse with the small round connector.
[11:28] <SpecialBuddy> I want something like synaptic to use with redhat
[11:28] <sethk> SpecialBuddy, red hat has rpm
[11:28] <shredhead15> sethk,  yes it is
[11:28] <SpecialBuddy> I know but I download something and it want's dependencies
[11:29] <greenpenguin13> uses yum i belive?
[11:29] <SpecialBuddy> so I'm not sure what to do about that
[11:29] <sethk> SpecialBuddy, rpm does dependencies
[11:29] <SpecialBuddy> I didn't know that
[11:29] <SpecialBuddy> i don't know anything about rpm
[11:29] <rBo3D1>  SpecialBuddy: they have a gui to yum
[11:29] <newuser> where can i get more repositories?
[11:29] <greenpenguin13> called pup
[11:29] <pashaw> ki4ikl,   are you using your original user account you install ubuntu with?>
[11:29] <topyli> Syco54645: apt is just fine. the repositories just have missing or conflicting packages
[11:29] <sethk> shredhead15, I've never come across a ps/2 mouse problem and I've installed many distros on many machine types.  Something must be odd about yours.  any idea what?
[11:30] <sethk> rBo3D1,they had that as far back as RH 9?
[11:30] <shredhead15> sethk, its an off brand
[11:30] <sethk> shredhead15, I've used dozens of different off brand mobos
[11:30] <sethk> shredhead15, that doesn't explain it.
[11:30] <rBo3D1> no, not rh9 i believe...
[11:30] <hyphenated> newuser: 16000 packages aren't enough?
[11:30] <sethk> shredhead15, everybody uses the same chips for the mouse connection.
[11:31] <Syco54645> topyli: well then they are conflicting.  i meant the repos, but it has happened more than one time with ohter apps aparently
[11:31] <newuser> :) welll
[11:31] <shredhead15> sethk, the buttons work  but the cusor wont move
[11:31] <tony__> sethk: so i need to add: unhide (hd2,1), rootnoverify (hd2,1), chainloader +1, makeactive .. and thats it?
[11:31] <sethk> shredhead15, well, that's a different situation
[11:31] <newuser> i guess i'm nosey. want to know where i can get it all.
[11:31] <sethk> tony__, unhide is only needed if you've used hide to try and make the second drive look like the first, which is not recommended.
[11:31] <sethk> shredhead15, make sure you have the correct driver in xorg.conf
[11:32] <sethk> shredhead15, it should be the ps2 driver
[11:32] <shredhead15> sethk,  how do i edit xorg.config
[11:32] <sethk> shredhead15, and of course try a different mouse, just to see what happens.
[11:32] <tony__> sethk: that makes thre lines then? thats all? cool!
[11:32] <DustyDin1o> oh, viel arbeit in [[bulgarien] ] 
[11:33] <DustyDin1o> sorry, wrong chanel
[11:33] <LeaChim> I just upgraded my kernel to the latest package, now it says Segmentation fault several times on boot. how can i fix this?
[11:33] <sethk> shredhead15, back it up, then use your favorite editor with sudo   as in   sudo vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[11:33] <sethk> tony__, I don't think you even need makeactive
[11:33] <sethk> tony__, linux ignores the partition active flag, so you can just set (and leave) your windows partition active
[11:33] <sethk> tony__, the only time you need makeactive is if you want to boot more than one windows installation with grub
[11:34] <sethk> shredhead15, but, please, back it up first.  something like   cp /etc/X11/xorg.conf $HOME
[11:34] <tony__> sthk: so rootnoactive and chailnoader?
[11:35] <Khisanth> why are all my fonts so big?
[11:35] <sethk> tony__, you need the chainloader
[11:35] <sethk> tony__, you can leave out the makeactive
[11:35] <newuser> is there any need to defrag hdd, if so how?
[11:35] <drunkpikachu> Can anyone tell me if there is an easy way to re-enable verbose kernal loading?
[11:35] <sethk> tony__, if windows complains, use fdisk to make the windows partition active (I think fdisk refers to it as the bootable flag)
[11:36] <LeaChim> I just upgraded my kernel to the latest package, now it says Segmentation fault several times on boot. how can i fix this?
[11:36] <sethk> tony__, I prefer to remove makeactive because I don't approve of a boot procedure that modifies the partition table.
[11:37] <xored_> iam trying to set up my onboard WLAN adapter ( intel pro wireless 802.11 b/g) what modprobe to load ?
[11:37] <tony__> sthk: it can be risky?
[11:38] <tony__> sthk: could u paste me tour xp part of menu.lst?
[11:38] <tatters> anyone help with mysql error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[11:38] <tatters>   ive tried 99 of the fixits on google but not many about ubuntu
[11:38] <garrincha> #ubuntu-motu-school
[11:38] <billubuntunow> I'm installing breezy and when it goes to partition the disk, it hangs
[11:39] <pashaw> xored,    type  lspci    what Prowireless card is reported
[11:39] <Syco54645> can anyone recommend a good graphical cvs program?
[11:39] <LeaChim> I just upgraded my kernel to the latest package, now it says Segmentation fault several times on boot. how can i fix this?
[11:39] <crimsun> LeaChim: which new kernel?
[11:39] <tatters> leachim look for clean bin I had same erorr yesterday that fixed it
[11:39] <Doomhammer> ubuntu will NOT boot with my HighPoint Rocket100 PCI IDE controller card inserted... kernel hangs indefinately at "Loading modules..."
[11:40] <tatters> stuck at 50% fragmetation
[11:40] <LeaChim> crimsun, latest package, 2.6.12-10
[11:40] <gordon> hi, i have a GeForce2 MX/MX 400. are there drivers that i can install so my graphics can be faster?
[11:40] <crimsun> LeaChim: where in the boot sequence is it segv'ing?
[11:40] <LeaChim> it was 2.6.12-10 before, this appears to just be a version change
[11:40] <Doomhammer> !ubotu nvidia
[11:40] <ubotu> methinks nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[11:40] <LeaChim> crimsun, right after it says loading the kernel
[11:40] <Doomhammer> gordon: listen to ubotu :)
[11:40] <gordon> thanks
[11:41] <glacious> any updates on the dapper tree?  preferably stuff related to X and apt-get acting up?  =)
[11:41] <vir_> !ubotu ov511
[11:41] <ubotu> vir_: No idea
[11:41] <glacious> is there a place to read through the devel discussion on dapper?  like an up to the moment forum or something current.
[11:41] <crimsun> glacious: it works fine here. Did you heed my recommendation regarding aptitude?
[11:41] <owner> www.kubuntuforums.com
[11:41] <bandfm> Hullo! I'm having a bit of trouble with ubuntu on my iBook G4..I downloaded the DVD disk image and accidentally used the liveCD at first, which worked fine. When I went to install it, everything went OK but when I try to boot through yaboot it gets past the load-bar thing (which is displayed in horrid 16-bit colours) and my screen is unintelligibly scrambled.
[11:41] <armosfighter> when i install azureus through the instructions on the website i get a broken package and i got rid of it
[11:41] <armosfighter> meh!
[11:41] <Mountainman> sethk, im assisting shredhead15 how do you save and exit vi
[11:41] <armosfighter> !meh
[11:41] <ubotu> armosfighter: Are you on ritalin?
[11:41] <Doomhammer> now, can someone tell me why ubuntu kernel 2.6.12-10 hangs at "Loading modules..." during boot when my HighPoint Rocket100 PCI IDE Controller Card is plugged in ?
[11:41] <sethk> Mountainman, x
[11:41] <sethk> Mountainman, or wq, if you prefer two letters
[11:42] <glacious> crimsun: yes i did, and it worked after a reboot to get X started.  I still can not change the refresh, and i can not run the autoconfigure script because some x11-common component is missing.
[11:42] <sethk> Mountainman, :x,
[11:42] <sethk> Mountainman, all vi commands are : whatever
[11:42] <armosfighter> broken.. package..  azureus... help
[11:42] <sethk> Mountainman, and if you are in insert mode, escape to get to command mode
[11:42] <Ryan450> hey gang, is there a default compiler built into ubuntu?
[11:42] <tony__> sethk:thanx ill try the boot!
[11:42] <crimsun> glacious: paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /var/log/Xorg.0.log onto pastebin
[11:42] <crimsun> Ryan450: no
[11:43] <crimsun> Ryan450: you need to install 'build-essential'
[11:43] <glacious> crimsun: sure.  let me boot into it =)  brb.
[11:43] <owner> did anyone install the new ati drivers
[11:43] <owner> newly released
[11:43] <bandfm> In fact I basically get what phibxr describes here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=117762
[11:43] <xored_> pashaw: Intel Corp. PRO/Wireless 2200BG (rev 05)
[11:43] <Ryan450> crimsun: that a package I can apt-get install?
[11:43] <GeekToe> hey
[11:43] <crimsun> Ryan450: that is the package
[11:43] <GeekToe> how big is the iso supposed to be?
[11:43] <Ryan450> crimsun: Thanx :).
[11:43] <GeekToe> the current ubuntu iso?
[11:43] <pashaw> xored_,   type lsmod   and scroll up it should be  ipw2200
[11:43] <owner> i noticed the new ati driver no longer includes fglrxconfig
[11:43] <owner> wonder why
[11:44] <Doomhammer> ubuntu will NOT boot with my HighPoint Rocket100 PCI IDE controller card inserted... kernel hangs indefinately at "Loading modules..."
[11:44] <xored_> pashaw: yes it shows it in 3 lines
[11:44] <Doomhammer> someone help :(
[11:44] <crimsun> Doomhammer: then revert to a kernel that does boot.
[11:44] <pashaw> xored_,   then its loaded    whats the problem?
[11:44] <Doomhammer> crimsun: it's not the kernel ... it will boot fine without that ide controller card, but if i plug it in, no boot
[11:44] <xored_> pashaw:  i pmed you with that 3
[11:45] <armosfighter> ....
[11:45] <pashaw> xored
[11:45] <ChefMedeski> So, ahh god a problem
[11:45] <ChefMedeski> I'll just put it out there see what u guys think.
[11:45] <xored_> pashaw: when i type ifconfig / iw config no wlan adpater is shown
[11:45] <ChefMedeski> First, is there anyone who can help me with DELL BIOS
[11:45] <armosfighter> azureus... help
[11:45] <pashaw> xored_,   (darn laptop keyboard)          it can also appear  as   an eth1 or eth2
[11:45] <dooglus> armosfighter: install java, get azureus from sf.net, extract, run.
[11:46] <tatters> anyone help with mysql error ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[11:46] <dooglus> !azureus
[11:46] <ubotu> well, azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[11:46] <xored_> pashaw: eth1 is my cable
[11:46] <xored_> pashaw: so its eth0
[11:46] <Doomhammer> tatters: did you do "mysql -u root -p" ?
[11:46] <armosfighter> k
[11:46] <tatters> yup
[11:46] <xored_> how to connect to a specfic SSID, with WPA-PSK
[11:47] <xored_> how to connect to a specfic SSID, with WPA-PSK, pashaw
[11:47] <Doomhammer> tatters: hmm i'm not sure then ... i'm assumming you set up the root account and such ?
[11:47] <tatters> trid 99% of fixes I can find on google
[11:47] <pashaw> xored_,   if its on   typing iwconfig   should clearly list it         the default breezy driver  will do WEP   but not WPA
[11:47] <tatters> I only got the one account I use sudo?
[11:47] <pashaw> xored_,   WPA  youll need to compile the newest driver and firmware
[11:47] <tatters> should I create root account?
[11:47] <xored_> pashaw: i need WPA in any case, what shall i do ?
[11:47] <trappist> tatters: don't use a password.  don't use -p
[11:47] <xored_> ok so do you know where to egt the sources ?
[11:48] <xored_> intel ?
[11:48] <trappist> oh wait
[11:48] <crimsun> xored_: you can also use the 'wpasupplicant' package in universe
[11:48] <trappist> I never thought of that
[11:48] <pashaw> xored_,   google   ipw2200   the drivers are an open project  with the firmware
[11:48] <tatters> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: NO)
[11:48] <tatters> root@server1:/home/
[11:48] <xored_> pashaw: http://ipw2200.sourceforge.net/ ?
[11:48] <pashaw> xored_,   yes
[11:49] <tatters> it changes from yes to no in using password but still cannot login
[11:49] <xored_> ok fine ill try, how the "diinstall the current
[11:49] <crimsun> pashaw: where are you reading that the latest drivers support WPA natively?
[11:49] <glacious> crimsun: ok, got it all set:  http://pastebin.com/513795
[11:49] <owner> im thinking of trying the 2.6.15 kernel again
[11:49] <ChefMedeski> DELL bios, anyone familair?
[11:49] <bandfm> When I try to boot through yaboot it gets past the splash screen (which is displayed in horrid 16 colours) and my screen is unintelligibly scrambled. I'm using an iBook G4. The liveCD worked, though. Can anyone help?
[11:49] <mwe> tatters: can you connect with mysql -u root?
[11:49] <pashaw> xored_,  they dont  they do WEP only   need newest for WPA
[11:49] <Ryan450> trying to compile the smaug mud codebase, but I'm getting this error, wondering if anyone can shed some light onto it as whether its something I'm missing on my system, of there is a problem with the code I'm trying to compile
[11:49] <Ryan450> act_move.c:604: error: invalid lvalue in assignment
[11:50] <crimsun> glacious: dude, check your VertRefresh     60-65
[11:50] <tatters> I just tried got that error I posted
[11:50] <crimsun> glacious: that's way too narrow a range
[11:50] <pashaw> crimsun,     uggg  long day  read what I type to xored  plz
[11:50] <xored_> pashaw: so thats not the right sources ?
[11:50] <glacious> crimsun: i want this error off my screen.  the refresh sent by the card is too high (gnome says its 80)
[11:50] <DoctorMO> having trouble with my /sources.list
[11:51] <pashaw> xored_,   yes  thats what you need from that website   this laptop makes my bad typing even worse  sorry
[11:51] <glacious> crimsun: so i have this bouncing error box now on my desktop, keeps bouncing in front of this terminal window actually...
[11:51] <DoctorMO> I want to add the wine repositories but the docs only explain the old sources format and nothing I do seems to work
[11:51] <tatters> there is a password its not blank ive changed it a few times,but no mattter what I do it still wont let me login
[11:51] <Doomhammer> ubuntu will NOT boot with my HighPoint Rocket100 PCI IDE controller card inserted... kernel hangs indefinately at "Loading modules..."
[11:51] <crimsun> pashaw: I don't know if I'm misinterpreting what you typed, but are you saying that WPA works only with the latest ipw2200 (1.0.10)?
[11:51] <pashaw> xored_,   they released brand new drivers within the last week or 2  im using them for WPA right now
[11:51] <mwe> DoctorMO: you made a backup right
[11:52] <xored_> ok from 1.0.7 they support WPA PSK
[11:52] <DoctorMO> mwe: of what?
[11:52] <tatters> in webmin it say it says msql is running but in system processes I can find no pid for it
[11:52] <mwe> DoctorMO: sources.list
[11:52] <pashaw> crimsun,   no not at all      just that he needs newer (im using newest) drivers  as the ubuntu ones only do WP
[11:52] <Flogiston> where is the folder to put my website when using apache?
[11:52] <DoctorMO> mwn: no
[11:52] <vazdecarvalho> hey
[11:52] <DoctorMO> mne: why?
[11:52] <pashaw> crimsun,   uggg WEP
[11:52] <vazdecarvalho> good night
[11:52] <vazdecarvalho> ppl
[11:52] <gianluca_> hi
[11:52] <vazdecarvalho> i have a problem
[11:52] <vazdecarvalho> :P
[11:52] <crimsun> pashaw: that's blatantly incorrect. Breezy's handle WPA2/RSN just fine via wpasupplicant's ipw driver.
[11:52] <mwe> DoctorMO: because you should before messing with it
[11:53] <owner> doomhammer you could try compiling a 2.6.15 kernel
[11:53] <glacious> crimsun: is there saa surefire way to force the vert refresh to 75hz?
[11:53] <tony__> sethk: i didnt even get the winxp alternative in grub. i tried to grub-update and it seemed to work fine... could i paste u my file?
[11:53] <Doomhammer> owner: hm, i'll try it
[11:53] <crimsun> glacious: sorry, give me a sec
[11:53] <glacious> crimsun: that will get rid of this annoying error box my monitor is showing.
[11:53] <vazdecarvalho> i see Error 18 on grub when i am booting
[11:53] <owner> but you will have to recompile your video card drivers
[11:53] <max> the transperency of the panels in my kde 3.5 arent reallly transperent
[11:53] <max> what can i do?
[11:53] <bandfm> D:
[11:53] <Doomhammer> owner: although, the highpoint website says that it is supported by kernels all the way back to 2.4.*
[11:54] <tatters> my rt2500 runs wpa psk fine without ndiswrapper or any change apart from /etc/network/interfaces.conf file to add my key
[11:54] <mwe> tatters: you have a wpa password in the interfaces file?
[11:54] <tatters> lol only reason i stuck with ubuntu so far didnt have to configure much
[11:54] <crimsun> tatters: I think you mean WEP.
[11:54] <vazdecarvalho> can anyone help me?
[11:54] <tatters> is that bad?
[11:55] <DoctorMO> mwe: while I would agree in this case I'm fine with blowing up my computer as I've had about enough from it
[11:55] <rysiek> hi there, guys
[11:55] <rysiek> dumb thing, I've mangled with some rights in my system (adding a special group for admins) and mangled a bit too much
[11:55] <rysiek> here's what I get when trying to change my pswd as a user
[11:55] <rysiek> passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[11:55] <rysiek> any ideas, wtf? already asked at #kubuntu, no ideas
[11:55] <tatters> no wpa
[11:55] <jlew> how do you mount a hd using the live cd (it says you need root)
[11:55] <DoctorMO> mwe: and your attitude hardly helps
[11:55] <mwe> DoctorMO: lol
[11:55] <sethk> rysiek, best thing to do is delete and recreate the user
[11:55] <mwe> DoctorMO: paste the file to pastebin if it doesn't work. I'll have a look
[11:55] <tatters> I have wpa tkip psk all my homenetwork is set up like that
[11:55] <DoctorMO> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net apt breezy
[11:55] <rysiek> the user has just been created :] 
[11:55] <DoctorMO> just the one line
[11:56] <tony__> hi all! ediing grub for to run xp dual boot but it wont see my new option in menu.lst? i even did grub-update.. any ideas?
[11:56] <mobodo> if I setup a raid configuration on my computer in linux, will the partition be readable from windows?
[11:56] <DoctorMO> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt breezy  - causes error
[11:56] <xored_> pashaw: the driver i dowloaded, in the INSTALL is written that i also need the firmware ?! why and where to get it ?
[11:56] <sethk> rysiek, that's nasty, sounds like you fouled up your shadow file
[11:56] <rysiek> sethk: the problem is that I've changed the permisions on /etc files, not user's
[11:56] <ezu> is it possible to get kubuntu help here?
[11:56] <glacious> my xorg error log has a lot of (EE) Failed to load /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions/libGLcore.so, and other errors loading modules.  is a package missing?
[11:56] <sobersabre> hi
[11:56] <mwe> tony__: past menu.lst to pastebin
[11:56] <DoctorMO> xored_: normal from the driver disk
[11:56] <sethk> rysiek, you can change the permissions back, if you know what they need to be.
[11:56] <sobersabre> mobodo depends which filesystem you choose to build on the RAID.
[11:56] <rysiek> sethk: shadow's ok, I can log in, I can create users, I can passwd as root
[11:56] <DoctorMO> mwe: did you get that?
[11:56] <jlew> how do you mount a hd using the live cd (it says you need root)?
[11:57] <xored_> DoctorMO: firmware from the driver disk ? why do i need that firmware, i mean the card i surely flashed with that one
[11:57] <mwe> glacious: what card?
[11:57] <navarone> DoctorMO, is that a usuable repo address?
[11:57] <sethk> rysiek, as I said, if you know which files to change, they can be changed.  You may have to strace the program that fails and see what file it is having problems with
[11:57] <rysiek> sethk: that's the problem: the perms on shadow, shadow-, passwd, passwd-, group and group- are as they should (checked on the other system)
[11:57] <mobodo> what I don't understand is that I have set up a raid disk in the bios and linux doesn't see it as raid
[11:57] <DoctorMO> navarone: it says so in the docs why?
[11:57] <rysiek> sethk: the program that fails is... passwd :0
[11:57] <mobodo> I thought hardware raid was transparent
[11:57] <sethk> rysiek, then use strace, and check on the file that is used (or perhaps fails to open) just before the error message
[11:58] <rysiek> sethk: strace, noted, trying :)
[11:58] <jlew> how do you mount a hd using the live cd (it says you need root)
[11:58] <xored_> pashaw:  ok i found them
[11:58] <mwe> DoctorMO: why don't you just install the official ubuntu wine version?
[11:58] <navarone> DoctorMO, I dunno...but hwy not just go to sourceforge and dl the package?
[11:58] <glacious> mwe: ATI raedon 9500, 9000?   hah, they don't use GL do they? =)
[11:58] <DoctorMO> mwe: I have, it's broken... next
[11:58] <sobersabre> mobodo if this is a hardware RAID, linux should see it as 1 harddisk.
[11:58] <Doomhammer> jlew: uh type "sudo mount <device> <mount point>"
[11:58] <crimsun> glacious: you simply need to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and change the line that I mentioned to have 60-75
[11:58] <tony__> mwe: sure!
[11:58] <jlew> thanks
[11:58] <sobersabre> mobodo which chipset is your RAID ?
[11:58] <mwe> glacious: yes with fglrx I believe. remove load glcore from xorg.conf though
[11:59] <mwe> DoctorMO: it's not broken
[11:59] <mwe> DoctorMO: it works fine
[11:59] <glacious> crimsun: i have done that.
[11:59] <mobodo> sobersabre: nforce4
[11:59] <Flogiston> where do i put my website in apache to show it?
[11:59] <Flogiston> i cant find it :(
[11:59] <DoctorMO> mwe: is for industrial giant, and about the time the 'ubuntu' terribly out of date version was released the bug was fixed
[11:59] <glacious> crimsun: look at likes like 765-800.  they all show 85hz, yet the config file does not have 85hz in it anywhere.
[11:59] <Doomhammer> flogiston: /var/www/
[11:59] <sobersabre> mobodo do you try using the SATA RAID or IDE RAID ?
[11:59] <mikeym> are there are mirrors for security.ubuntu.com cause the download speeds that i'm getting are horrible....or a better way to get the updates?
[11:59] <Flogiston> thanks
[11:59] <Khisanth> so ... who/what do I have to kill to get a working firefox?
[11:59] <Flogiston> alot!
[12:00] <mobodo> sobersabre: it's sata