[12:40] <signifer123> Hey
[12:44] <signifer123> how do you guys feel about realbasic?
[12:47] <signifer123> or...bbl
[12:50] <selmys> I need help with ltsp - anyone here using this on edubuntu?
[12:53] <yennyKa> Hello!!!!!!
[01:10] <yennyKa> it wanted to ask some aspects on edubuntu....
[01:22] <Burgwork> selmys, it is a core part of edubuntu
[01:42] <selmys> burgwork, yes, the default edubuntu install includes ltsp.
[01:43] <Burgwork> selmys, hence your question was odd
[01:43] <selmys> not sure what you mean?
[01:44] <Burgwork> selmys, selmys I need help with ltsp - anyone here using this on edubuntu?
[01:45] <selmys> although it's part of edubuntu, it's not necessary to use it. I guess I'm still not being clear.
[04:12] <lguerra> hi, someone has work with apple quadra 605 in linux?, my university send one to the trash, and i want run edubuntu thinclient in this machine
[05:40] <earobinson> Anyone know how to recover a lost freeenode password? freenode site is down :(
[05:40] <Burgundavia> earobinson, I think #staff is where to ask
[05:41] <earobinson> thanks
[05:41] <earobinson> room looks empty
[05:41] <earobinson> ?
[05:42] <Burgundavia> try #freenod
[05:42] <earobinson> cant talk in there I dont have voice
[05:42] <earobinson> and I cant pm ne one because i need to be a user to do that
[05:42] <Burgundavia> hmm, stuck
[05:43] <earobinson> if you could do it for me that would be great
[05:44] <earobinson> ?
[10:41] <Burgundavia> JaneW, to make an internal wiki link with a different text to the name, use [:PageName:The displayed link name] 
[10:42] <JaneW> Burgundavia: I know thanks... was multi-tasking and added it else where and to an e-mail, I'll fix shortly
[10:43] <JaneW> Burgundavia: you made any screen casts yet?
[10:44] <Burgundavia> JaneW, between work and writing, I have no time
[10:44] <Burgundavia> talk to me next year ;)
[10:46] <Burgundavia> JaneW, I have already fixed your links ;)
[10:47] <JaneW> Burgundavia: ditto :), and thanks for fixing links, I appreciate it...
[10:48] <Burgundavia> JaneW, np. It is amazing how time can simply disappear so quickly.
[10:48] <JaneW> NOD
[10:48] <JaneW> throw in a cuple of kids, and you have no idea! ;)
[10:48] <JaneW> couple even
[10:49] <Burgundavia> for instance, it is now 2am here. I have to get up to be at work at 9am and I still haven't finished what I needed to do today
[10:51] <JaneW> ouch
[03:23] <Yagisan> G'day mhz
[03:24] <mhz> hey Yagisan 
[03:25] <mhz> Yagisan: how's the family?
[03:25] <Yagisan> mhz: wife still not healed, otherwise ok. Mother-in-law recovering well from operation
[03:26] <mhz> i am happy for you
[03:26] <Yagisan> mhz: thank you
[03:26] <Yagisan> mhz: very happy with myself re my website
[03:27] <mhz> heheh, I have seen it
[03:27] <mhz> actually, lguerra, a colombian guy from edubuntu-es
[03:27] <mhz> is very interested in security
[03:28] <mhz> and I have already told him to contact you
[03:28] <mhz> sorry I took the liberty
[03:28] <mhz> :)
[03:28] <Yagisan> mhz: thank you :)
[03:28] <mhz> yw
[03:29] <Yagisan> mhz: he does know I can't speak spanish right ?
[03:30] <mhz> hmmmm
[03:30] <mhz> yes :)
[03:30] <mhz> (well, if not... security issues are universal :D )
[03:31] <Yagisan> mhz: ok - didn't want to disappoint him
[03:31] <mhz> you can't, you are too good for that ;)
[03:33] <Yagisan> mhz: I do hope in future, we can continue with our discussions wrt eg tecnocimento etc
[03:34] <mhz> but so far... we've had ssooooo many problems with stupid details.. that our head are focused on solving them
[03:35] <Yagisan> mhz: I understand
[03:35] <Yagisan> mhz: but my new site looks rather professional now ;)
[03:36] <mhz> Yagisan: indeed
[03:36] <mhz> I took a look yesterday
[03:37] <Yagisan> mhz: last tweak I did was to get mod_deflate working on apache2 - it now compresses css, js, and html before sending it
[03:38] <Yagisan> mhz: and mod_rewrite redirects all old pages to the new ones
[03:39] <mhz> very nice, so users will feel it very fast?
[03:39] <Yagisan> mhz: subjectively yes - but it's still on a slow upstream
[03:45] <mhz> Yagisan: do you remember my 840 MB CD's
[03:45] <mhz> ?
[03:45] <Yagisan> mhz: yes
[03:45] <mhz> sorry, 870 MB
[03:45] <mhz> well, they work on the same CD drive Dapper F2 didn't
[03:45] <mhz> :)
[03:45] <Yagisan> :)
[03:48] <mhz> Yagisan: so eventhought i understand your explanation about the manufacturer using a 'special way' to make a 700 MB a 870 MB one, it seems that for these CD s to work, it is also important the ISO generated before burning. Otherwise, I can't explain why it works now and it didn't before.
[03:49] <mhz>  (i used same command line)
[03:49] <mhz> the iso was the only diff
[03:50] <Yagisan> mhz: it most likely burnt in a slightly different spot that was easier to read
[04:03] <Yagisan> night all
[04:04] <mhz> night Yagisan 
[08:50] <Petaris> for an ltsp server would it be advisable to use the x86 over the amd64?
[08:51] <Petaris> For the edubuntu branch
[08:51] <Petaris> My server:
[08:52] <Petaris> Dual Opteron 244, 8 GB RAM, 2x160 GB SATA hdd in hardware raid 1 (LSI Megaraid)
[08:53] <Petaris> My Clients:
[08:53] <Petaris> VIA 1GHz, 128 MB RAM
[08:55] <Petaris> Hi mhz
[08:56] <mhz> Petaris: hi
[08:56] <mhz> hmmm, I have only used X86
[08:56] <mhz> but I know people have used AMD
[08:57] <Petaris> I'm thinking it would be safer to use x86
[08:57] <mhz> Petaris: the only thing I can tell you about HW requirements is:
[08:57] <mhz> Server: 256 RAM + 128 p/client you attach to it, and a minimum 1GHz processor
[08:58] <mhz> in which case you have plenty :D
[08:58] <Petaris> yeah, I'm running k12ltsp ATM, but I can not get it to boot with 8 GB RAM, only with 4 GB
[08:58] <mhz> and if the NIC's of each client have PXE, then yes, in less than 1 hour you should be ready
[08:59] <mhz> Petaris: ooh, good point
[08:59] <mhz> unfortunately my testing environment have been less, much less every week
[08:59] <mhz> :(
[08:59] <mhz> and the top RAM I've had on server is 512
[09:00] <mhz> so.. no idea about issues over 4 GB of RAM :)
[09:00] <Petaris> Have the client boot issues been resolved?
[09:00] <mhz> which?
[09:00] <mhz> sound?
[09:00] <Petaris> mhz: I traced it to a problem fixed in 2.6.5 that still exists in 2.6.12-fc3
[09:00] <mhz> ohhh
[09:01] <Petaris> mhz: no, the issue with the client booting halting the first time its booted
[09:01] <mhz> well, I can send you the Flight 3 notification for Edubuntu by email if needed?
[09:01] <Petaris> Flight 3?
[09:02] <mhz> Petaris: yes. Releases in their way to become Dapper
[09:02] <mhz> :)
[09:02] <Petaris> ahh
[09:02] <Petaris> I need something solid
[09:02] <Petaris> This is a production box
[09:02] <mhz> want me to send you the email about the release?
[09:02] <Petaris> sure
[09:02] <mhz> Petaris: I have used Edubuntu breezy in production environement since released
[09:03] <mhz> but not as thin clients
[09:03] <Petaris> does it work well with xfce4?
[09:03] <mhz> only as regular dektop/laptop
[09:03] <mhz> I use it with XFCE and Wmaker ALL the time
[09:03] <Petaris> I wish ogra was here
[09:03] <Petaris> mhz: cool
[09:04] <mhz> my main objective is towards Edubuntu lite
[09:04] <Petaris> ahh
[09:04] <mhz> Petaris: mail address?
[09:05] <Petaris> I need to get the important stuff off that server
[09:06] <mhz> Petaris: Edubuntu is 100% Ubuntu
[09:06] <mhz> so server is good 
[09:06] <Petaris> damn, my inet connection is dragging
[09:07] <mhz> but if you want me to tell you about client behaviour... no idea yet
[09:08] <Petaris> grr, looks like I'll have to wait to grab it
[09:09] <Petaris> Its downloading @ 55Kbs
[09:28] <Petaris> mhz: thanks for the input, and I got the email
[09:30] <mhz> good, I and sorry I couldnt help more
[09:31] <Petaris> I truly hate fedora core
[09:55] <Petaris> later guys