| Riddell | who's on breezy? | 12:32 |
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| Riddell | I need amarok testers | 12:32 |
| Riddell | deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.8 breezy main | 12:32 |
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| \sh | Riddell: do you have problems installing libarts1-dev (depends on libqt3-mt-dev but it's not installable) while you are pbuilding? | 04:07 |
| shawkins | \sh: may I ask what you mean by pbuilding? | 04:09 |
| \sh | building a package inside a pbuilder chroot :) | 04:09 |
| shawkins | I see | 04:10 |
| \sh | http://www.netfort.gr.jp/~dancer/software/pbuilder-doc/pbuilder-doc.html | 04:10 |
| shawkins | well I gots a quick question which you may be able to answer, I'm having troubles.... using dapper, a second ago I typed apt-get dist-upgrade, and one of the packages to be removed was kubuntu-desktop | 04:11 |
| shawkins | the other day I did the dist-upgrade.. just didn't read the remove part... ooops.... | 04:11 |
| \sh | looks like Xorg breakage | 04:12 |
| shawkins | that would be my only guess.. wasn't sure.. | 04:12 |
| shawkins | yet one more thing, I tried on the kubuntu channel... had no luck for this, I screwed up my system while installing windows a few days ago... well something is wrong with my superblock or something, booted up on a slackware disk and typed e2fsck -b 8193 I think it was.... didn't work, forget the error message | 04:14 |
| shawkins | in any case, something went wrong with the partition, I guess its not sure if it is ext3 of not, so I have to press ctrl-d to bypass that bit so it'll boot u | 04:15 |
| shawkins | *boot up | 04:15 |
| \sh | hmm...boot loader fun or overriding some important parts of your partition | 04:15 |
| shawkins | boot loader fun? possible I rewrote the boot loader wrong? | 04:17 |
| shawkins | I booted a live disc of ubuntu to get grub going again once I was done with windows... | 04:17 |
| \sh | did you install the grub bootloader into mbr or on the partition itself? | 04:18 |
| shawkins | good question, I'm not much for bootloader type things.... though I think it was the partition... used the command 'root (hd0,0) | 04:18 |
| \sh | hmmm..could be that | 04:19 |
| shawkins | ok, well now I'm pretty sure it was the partition I installed it to, worked fine, but its also the first partition... so how would I fix it? | 04:19 |
| shawkins | well tell me this, how would you install grub? | 04:27 |
| \sh | in the mbr | 04:27 |
| shawkins | no.. the command, I understand the mbr part.. | 04:28 |
| shawkins | I just sit here and screw around until it works.... | 04:28 |
| \sh | grub-install :) | 04:29 |
| \sh | but it's only a guess, it can be, that windows fdisk screwed your partition table somehow...did you play with resizing partitions during windows installation? | 04:29 |
| shawkins | well... I deleted one of my linux partitions.... used that space for windows | 04:31 |
| \sh | another solution can be, to install ubuntu from scratch, it should be an easy task if you have your /home partition separated from the rest, and when you have a backup file of configurations in /etc | 04:35 |
| shawkins | \sh: yeah, I could do that, I thought about it the other day.. no, I don't have my home partition seperate.. however, I know how to back stuff up | 04:36 |
| shawkins | don't need the configuration files in /etc.... no need for them, the only one I change is /etc/kde3/kdm/kdmrc I think... | 04:37 |
| shawkins | other then that... I didn't change it a whole lot since I got it | 04:37 |
| shawkins | I've been in these irc rooms since I installed it | 04:37 |
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| freeflying_ | Riddell: ping | 05:33 |
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| viviersf | Riddell, ping | 07:30 |
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| raphink | yeah my key is up :) | 07:39 |
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| viviersf | i get this klauncher error randomly guys | 07:55 |
| viviersf | when i try to shut down | 07:55 |
| viviersf | got any ideas ? | 07:55 |
| raphink | this klauncher error <-- any more precision ? | 07:56 |
| viviersf | it sais | 07:56 |
| viviersf | cannot talk to klauncher | 07:56 |
| viviersf | and nothing else | 07:56 |
| viviersf | not big error | 07:56 |
| viviersf | but very annoying | 07:56 |
| viviersf | and i need to release impi :/ | 07:56 |
| raphink | oh when you shut down yes | 07:56 |
| raphink | I have had this too | 07:56 |
| viviersf | yeah | 07:58 |
| viviersf | i want it to go away | 07:58 |
| raphink | you can work on tracking it :) | 07:59 |
| raphink | that'd be nice :) | 07:59 |
| viviersf | sigh | 07:59 |
| viviersf | will do later | 07:59 |
| raphink | hehe ok | 07:59 |
| raphink | <viviersf> sigh <--- well someone will have to do it though. It won't correct alone. Try to search for an existing patch maybe. | 08:00 |
| viviersf | sigh is not at finding the problem | 08:00 |
| raphink | then what? | 08:00 |
| viviersf | its bcoz of all my owkr 2day | 08:00 |
| viviersf | hehe | 08:00 |
| raphink | hehe | 08:00 |
| viviersf | hmm | 08:01 |
| viviersf | i think its something with kbluetooth | 08:01 |
| raphink | possibly | 08:01 |
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| viviersf | ok | 08:06 |
| viviersf | its kbluetooth | 08:07 |
| raphink | ok | 08:09 |
| viviersf | raphink, you know in what config kde stores startup apps ? | 08:27 |
| raphink | ~/.kde/Autostart | 08:29 |
| raphink | if that's what you mean | 08:29 |
| raphink | not sure though | 08:29 |
| viviersf | yeah sumthing like that | 08:30 |
| viviersf | lemme look | 08:30 |
| viviersf | yar sum goes there | 08:32 |
| viviersf | but not kbluetoothd | 08:32 |
| raphink | no | 08:34 |
| raphink | it must be launched somewhere else | 08:34 |
| raphink | Autostart is for the user to launch apps at login | 08:35 |
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| viviersf | ya raphink | 09:04 |
| raphink | viviersf: did you find what was wrong? | 09:04 |
| viviersf | no | 09:04 |
| raphink | :s | 09:04 |
| viviersf | will look just now | 09:04 |
| raphink | ok | 09:05 |
| viviersf | see | 09:05 |
| viviersf | kblue jsut starts at random | 09:05 |
| viviersf | and i think when there is no bluetooth adapter | 09:05 |
| viviersf | its causes the error when you loggof | 09:05 |
| viviersf | etc | 09:05 |
| raphink | hmmm ic | 09:06 |
| raphink | did you check if the bug was reported to bugs.kde.org ? | 09:07 |
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| tvo | Riddell: the patch I posted for #28923 doesn't seem to help, so I doubt a debdiff is useful atm... better wait until it's really fixed imho | 09:29 |
| viviersf | raphink, yes i did now | 09:30 |
| raphink | ok :) | 09:31 |
| Tm_T | alo | 09:32 |
| raphink | hi Tm_T | 09:38 |
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| raphink | Riddell: ping | 10:30 |
| raphink | Riddell: there's a big issue with kdelibs4-dev today | 10:31 |
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| Riddell | hmm, who broke qt then | 11:03 |
| raphink | Riddell: I have | 11:05 |
| raphink | The following packages have unmet dependencies: | 11:05 |
| raphink | kdelibs4-dev: Depends: libarts1-dev (>= 1.5-rc1) but it is not going to be installed | 11:05 |
| raphink | Depends: libqt3-mt-dev (>= 3:3.3.5) but it is not going to be installed | 11:05 |
| raphink | Depends: libavahi-qt3-dev but it is not going to be installed | 11:05 |
| Tm_T | hmm | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | I just installed... | 11:07 |
| Tm_T | no problems | 11:07 |
| raphink | I could upgrade too, Tm_T | 11:09 |
| raphink | but it won't work on pbuilders and buildds | 11:09 |
| raphink | so all kde apps FTBFS on buildds today | 11:09 |
| Riddell | doesn't work on a fresh chroot | 11:11 |
| Riddell | it'll be whether or not you already have xlibs-static-dev installed | 11:11 |
| raphink | yes it seems so | 11:11 |
| raphink | there's a talk on #ubuntu-devel about this | 11:12 |
| raphink | I think seb128 is working on it | 11:12 |
| raphink | 2006-01-20 10:45] <seb128> libqt3-mt-dev: Depends: xlibs-static-dev (>= 4.3.0.dfsg.1-4) but it is not installable | 11:12 |
| raphink | [2006-01-20 10:45] <seb128> is anybody working on that | 11:12 |
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| Mez | Riddell: will a sync of katapult from debian be against UVF ? | 01:13 |
| Riddell | "Manual syncs from Debian (where they do not involve new upstream releases) | 01:15 |
| Riddell | may still be requested by the usual means" | 01:15 |
| Mez | Riddell... well... not a ne upstream release - just been working on the packaging in debian a lil thats all (working on libtool stuff) | 01:16 |
| Riddell | so should be fine | 01:16 |
| Mez | even if it's new in debian ? | 01:17 |
| Riddell | "where they do not involve new upstream releases" | 01:19 |
| Mez | Riddell: ok :D lol - lucky we got the new one in - eh? | 01:19 |
| Riddell | it wasn't lucky, we timed it for UVF | 01:20 |
| Riddell | alleeHol: libkipi0 doesn't install the locale files | 01:28 |
| Mez | Riddell: hehe - well - it was sorta lucky | 01:30 |
| Mez | plus we can always just aply a delta as a patch ;) | 01:31 |
| Mez | if we wanna upgrade it | 01:31 |
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| Riddell | morning JRe | 01:35 |
| Mez | morning JRe | 01:36 |
| JRe | hi Riddell | 01:36 |
| Riddell | JRe: what's the status of Keep? | 01:36 |
| JRe | Riddell: SVN version is really stable for me | 01:36 |
| JRe | Riddell: I will release a new version tonight or tomorow | 01:37 |
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| JRe | Riddell: it needs a little test but I think there is no big bug | 01:38 |
| Riddell | I'll try and test it out soon | 01:38 |
| tvo | "Terminal=false" for an app which shows "konsolekalendar is a command-line only program." on start is a bug right? | 01:40 |
| alleeHol | dpkg -L libkipi0 | grep libkipi.mo | wc -l | 01:40 |
| alleeHol | 31 | 01:40 |
| alleeHol | Riddell: ^^^^^ Which version? | 01:40 |
| alleeHol | + have you tried? | 01:41 |
| Riddell | 0.1.2-2ubuntu4 | 01:42 |
| Riddell | quite possibly we're out of sync with debian | 01:42 |
| Riddell | tvo: it looks like it but there may well be a reason it's set like that | 01:42 |
| alleeHol | no, 0.1.2-3 is in alioth but not released due my mentor relocation | 01:43 |
| Riddell | right, I've fixed it in ubuntu now | 01:44 |
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| alleeHol | Riddell: I've a look at it tongight | 01:44 |
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| tvo | Riddell: I'll just file a bug then and see what you and others think :) | 01:44 |
| alleeHol | bbl | 01:46 |
| Riddell | tvo: may be worth asking on #kontact | 01:48 |
| tvo | Riddell, sure | 01:48 |
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| tvo | Riddell: ping | 03:04 |
| Riddell | hi tvo | 03:05 |
| tvo | Riddell: I doubt that debdiff will be useful if someone of us (katapult team) is going to make Debian katapult packages anyway | 03:06 |
| Riddell | it'll be useful for kubuntu | 03:06 |
| Riddell | waiting on debian isn't always reliable | 03:07 |
| tvo | Riddell: true, but we could wait some time, and if time's running out for dapper and we still haven't synced the fix from debian, make the debdiff.. | 03:08 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: hi | 03:09 |
| Riddell | tvo: we could yes | 03:09 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: hi | 03:09 |
| freeflying_ | Riddell: ttf-arphic-uming and ukai have new release | 03:10 |
| tvo | Riddell: oh and btw, I got no reaction in #kontact | 03:11 |
| Riddell | freeflying_: I'll need a detailed changelog to ask for a UVF exception | 03:12 |
| tvo | anyway, I should study a bit, see you later | 03:16 |
| nlindblad | 13GiB ISOs seeded so far | 03:51 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: woo :) | 03:52 |
| Riddell | nlindblad: flight 3 or breezy? | 03:52 |
| nlindblad | Breezy | 03:54 |
| nlindblad | I'll seed it until Dapper is released | 03:54 |
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| jpatrick | Riddell: hello | 06:12 |
| Riddell | jpatrick! | 06:13 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I was wondering if you could announce http://www.kubuntu-es.org at kubuntu.org | 06:13 |
| Riddell | si | 06:14 |
| jpatrick | gracias | 06:14 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: who made it, who hosts it and does ubuntu-es know? | 06:14 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: some guy (that practically came out of nowhere), been talking to him and stuff, not sure who hosts it and ubuntu-es does know | 06:15 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: do you have admin access on the boards? | 06:17 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: yes, sir | 06:17 |
| Riddell | excellent excellent | 06:17 |
| Riddell | the links at the bottom of the Menu box are broken | 06:18 |
| jpatrick | yep | 06:18 |
| jpatrick | have to get him to fixing that | 06:18 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: you should get it announced on http://www.kdelatino.org/ too | 06:20 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: we have | 06:20 |
| jpatrick | (tons of places actually) | 06:20 |
| jpatrick | BUT I have no ftp access to the site | 06:20 |
| jpatrick | seems the whole thing is though the admin panel | 06:21 |
| \sh | morning | 06:22 |
| jpatrick | evening \sh | 06:22 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: I need a spanish translation for "kubuntu-es is a new website and forum for Spanish speaking Kubuntu users" | 06:23 |
| Riddell | or some similar sentence | 06:23 |
| jpatrick | kubuntu-es es la pagina web y foros nuevos para hispanohablantes | 06:27 |
| jpatrick | should do | 06:27 |
| jpatrick | "pagina" has an accent on the first a which goes to the right :P | 06:28 |
| jpatrick | ...de Kubuntu | 06:30 |
| Riddell | acute or grave? | 06:31 |
| jpatrick | acute | 06:32 |
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| Riddell | jpatrick: how's that? | 06:36 |
| Riddell | jpatrick: you should get the forums on kubuntuforums notified | 06:39 |
| Riddell | spanish ones that is | 06:39 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: I think they already know... | 06:39 |
| jpatrick | Riddell: since we were discussing the site there a few weeks ago | 06:40 |
| jpatrick | looks okay :) | 06:42 |
| jpatrick | btw what's UVF? | 06:48 |
| Riddell | upstream version freeze, we upload new versions of existing packages | 06:55 |
| JRe | Riddell: is it good for dapper if I release my version of Keep today ? | 06:55 |
| jpatrick | oh yeah... | 06:56 |
| JRe | Riddell: I have tested it and thinks its ready now | 06:56 |
| Riddell | JRe: yes, new packages are allowed, just not new upstream versions of existing packages | 06:58 |
| JRe | Riddell: ok, cool. Untill when new packages are accepted . | 06:59 |
| JRe | ? | 06:59 |
| Riddell | February 23rd | 06:59 |
| Riddell | FeatureFreeze | 06:59 |
| Riddell | https://wiki.kubuntu.org/DapperReleaseSchedule | 06:59 |
| Riddell | I think | 06:59 |
| jpatrick | yes! so I still have time for some package... | 07:00 |
| jpatrick | -ing* | 07:00 |
| Riddell | yes, it is feature freeze | 07:01 |
| Riddell | please do :) | 07:01 |
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| Riddell | mdz: able to look at KubuntuDapperPackageManager? | 07:04 |
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| mdz | Riddell: looking | 07:21 |
| mdz | Riddell: how will tag exclusion work? | 07:23 |
| Riddell | mornfall^^ | 07:23 |
| mornfall | here | 07:23 |
| mornfall | i think it should already work :) | 07:23 |
| Riddell | mdz: it's the I Don't Want box that you can drag tags to | 07:23 |
| mornfall | mdz: it's sort of like http://debtags.alioth.debian.org/cgi-bin/search.cgi -- just different interface, but similar concept | 07:24 |
| mdz | that web interface is very confusing | 07:26 |
| mornfall | that's probably subjective | 07:27 |
| mdz | the spec is much improved | 07:28 |
| mdz | apt won't get dependency tracking for dapper | 07:28 |
| mornfall | i expected that | 07:28 |
| mornfall | sort of | 07:29 |
| mornfall | it can be done when it gets in, or if it doesn't, implemented in libapt-front | 07:29 |
| mdz | we wouldn't want it in libapt-front; the idea of having it in apt itself was to avoid having multiple implementations | 07:30 |
| mdz | what's the rationale for adding pinning to adept? | 07:30 |
| mdz | in my opinion there are too many "gotchas" with pinning for it to be exposed in a user-oriented tool | 07:31 |
| mornfall | user requests, i guess... and the fact adept manager is probably adressing more of an intermediate user... the rest have the very simple tools | 07:33 |
| mornfall | a very user-oriented tool shouldn't expose dependencies either, IMO | 07:33 |
| mdz | indeed | 07:34 |
| mornfall | also, pinning, dependencies etc will not get in the way of current adept workflow... all that it will need in the main user interface is a single details button | 07:34 |
| mornfall | which makes it 2 buttons per package and a context menu, which is probably as un-obtrusive as it gets | 07:35 |
| mdz | there are about 5 weeks before feature freeze; how much of this work do you think is achievable in that time? | 07:35 |
| mdz | I am most interested in the simple installer, followed by the update notifier | 07:37 |
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| mornfall | mdz: i am not sure about pinning, everything else should be doable... apart from the new libapt-pkg features which seem not | 07:38 |
| nlindblad | jpatrick: hi!!! | 07:41 |
| mdz | mornfall: just to avoid any confusion, let's break it down into the different components | 07:41 |
| mdz | mornfall: we wouldn't want to end up in a situation where the whole thing was a bust because you ran out of time | 07:42 |
| mdz | mornfall: please send me a proposal with separate pricing for the simple installer, update notifier, adept and .deb installer via email | 07:43 |
| mdz | and we'll go from there | 07:43 |
| mdz | thanks for your work on the spec, it's much clearer now | 07:43 |
| mornfall | okey, i'll try to come up with something reasonable | 07:45 |
| mornfall | what about "infrastructure work", that is things in libraries that are needed by most of the components? | 07:47 |
| mdz | I'd bundle it in with the first component in my list above which needs the infrastructure | 07:48 |
| mdz | since that's the priority order as I see it | 07:48 |
| mornfall | okey, sounds good | 07:48 |
| jpatrick | nlindblad: boo | 07:48 |
| nlindblad | jpatrick: long time no see | 08:02 |
| jpatrick | nlindblad: yep - few (critical) real-world problems to fix | 08:04 |
| nlindblad | oh :( | 08:04 |
| nlindblad | jpatrick: I bought "Familiar To Millions" :D | 08:05 |
| jpatrick | ok | 08:06 |
| nlindblad | (Oasis) | 08:07 |
| jpatrick | wow! | 08:07 |
| nlindblad | but I enjoy my other purchase even more | 08:08 |
| nlindblad | The Killers - Hot Fuss | 08:08 |
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| allee | Riddell: I rebuild libkipi0_0.1.2-2ubuntu4_i386.deb localy and | 11:11 |
| allee | $ dpkg --contents libkipi0_0.1.2-2ubuntu4_i386.deb | grep LC_MESSAGES/libkipi.mo | wc -l | 11:11 |
| allee | 31 | 11:11 |
| allee | so looks like a buildd problem!? | 11:11 |
| allee | fwiw martin pitt uploaded already 2ubuntu5 with a ca translation fix | 11:13 |
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