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arafatnever tried azureus, just ktorrent. worked fine for me12:03
Zappaktorrent doesnt like me either - it locks up after downloading for a while12:03
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arafatZappa: hmm... maybe have a look at mldonkey. it supports torrent as well, i think.12:04
Zappathanks i will do if i have no luck with azureus12:05
IGNIZhi dudes, i'm a newbie and i'm trying to watch a dvd with kaffeine or mplayer...12:05
IGNIZzappa what's the problem?12:05
IGNIZgzip?12:05
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visik7I got this error every apt-get install something12:06
visik7** (process:314): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed12:07
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IGNIZsudo -r before every apt-get12:07
visik7sudo -r ?12:07
IGNIZcan someone help me with kaffeine dvd playback?12:08
IGNIZsudo -s12:08
IGNIZsorry12:08
kkathmanvisik7: that looks like a sudoers file error12:08
visik7what's wrong with sudo apt-get install something ?12:08
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arrinmurr"sudo -i" is better than "sudo -s"12:10
rysiek-rwxrwxr-x  1 root staff 26616 2005-05-18 08:33 /usr/bin/passwd12:10
rysiekyellowdart: the problem was with the /usr/bin/passwd file's perms12:11
rysiekyellowdart: just to let you know ;)12:11
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rysiekyellowdart: should be -rwsr-xr-x, maybe you'll need it someday12:11
rysiekgtg, cu all12:11
Elsan_How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat?12:12
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Zappaaha!12:14
Zappaazureus working perfectly with jre1.512:14
Zappamuch more responsive too12:14
Elsan_Is Azureus a BitTorrent client?12:15
arrinmurryes12:15
Elsan_k thanks12:16
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Elsan_How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat?12:21
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Elsan_How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat? Is there any way?12:22
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arrinmurrElsan_: try asking in #konversation12:22
Elsan_Thanks!12:23
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Riddellbreezy amarok testers needed: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.8 breezy main12:33
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Elsan_Is there any way to make an application not take the default colors set in KDE besides running as root?12:35
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ZappaRiddell: hmm i'll give it a go - i want lyrics working again12:44
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kkathmanwelcome back tracy_ :)12:56
tracy_hiya12:57
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tracy_kubuntu hates me! i have mulitverse and universe uncommented in sources.list but it wont fetch packages from either. ive done update, im on the wiki right now, trying to install java. driving me crazy. i did install an old agp nvidia card, though.12:58
kkathmantracy_:  could you open your /etc/apt/sources.list, copy and paste it to the pastebin at pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org ?12:59
kkathmanI'll take a look12:59
tracy_k01:00
kkathmantracy_:  also, did you do a sudo apt-get update  after you changed it?01:00
tracy_yeah, i installed ubuntu as a server only then vi'd the sources list and installed from there01:00
kkathmanbut you did do the apt-get update ?01:01
kkathmanthats mandatory after any change to the sources.list01:01
tracy_yes i had to do the update to install anything01:01
tracy_i also checked it in the aptitude thing01:01
Zappacan anyone resolve moodwrod.com01:02
kkathmantracy_:  no, not to install anything...but anytime you change the sources, you have to do the apt-get update afterward otherwise the changes dont take place01:02
tracy_http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/739701:03
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kkathmantracy_:  sources look fine...please do a sudo apt-get update    at your konsole and try your package download again01:05
tracy_ive done that01:05
tracy_i just did that01:05
kkathmanwhat package are you trying to get?01:05
tracy_E: Couldn't find package java-package01:05
tracy_tracy@orange:~/download$01:05
tracy_from the ubuntu wiki01:05
tracy_restricted formats01:05
tracy_java01:05
tracy_heh01:05
tracy_oh and while im here whats the xorg config command?01:06
bimberi!xorg01:07
ubotuit has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"01:07
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bimberitracy_: java-package is in multiverse, you need to add ' multiverse' to lines 19, 20, 35, 36 of your sources.list01:08
hawkingI have messed with /etc/fstab file and I can't see anything on boot nothing... can someone help me?01:09
tracy_you mean right fater "universe?"01:09
kkathmantracy_:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java01:09
hawking/dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,data=writeback 0       101:09
hawkingthis is the line01:09
tracy_hehe after01:09
bimberitracy_: yes :)01:09
kkathmantracy_: scroll down toward the bottom and you'll get the instructions on Java01:09
bimberiZappa: no (unknown host)01:10
Elsan_Is there any way to make apps not use the KDE colors settings besides running as root/sudo?01:10
Zappabimberi: okay thanks01:10
bimberiZappa: yw :)01:10
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QalimasDoes anyone know of a really good AIM client for KDE?  I'm not interested in Kopete nor Gaim, AIM only support is fine, multi-protocol support isn't needed, help is much appreciated :)01:12
tracy_kkathman, thats the page i started on01:12
kkathmanQalimas:  I know of no others but Kopete and Gaim...both support AIM01:12
tracy_i totally like ubuntu better01:13
kkathmanQalimas: are you looking for some specific feature?01:13
QalimasI've used both, I don't like how Gaim looks in KDE, and Kopete is buggy for me, I know of SIM, but it's too basic and doesn't work as expected01:13
tracy_maybe its just that i dont have synaptic here01:13
QalimasNot really, I want it to look good, support chats, and it would be nice if it could file transfer, nott needed01:13
kkathmanQalimas: Kopete is much more stable in KDE 3.501:13
kkathmana later release01:14
QalimasI run 3.501:14
kkathmanI have experienced no bugs whatsoever in kopete since going to 3.501:15
_magnusAnyone know how I change the background of konqueror (when in filebrowser-mode)?01:15
kkathmanif you have, please report them to the bugzilla so they can be investigated and fixed01:15
QalimasSometimes (read: most of hte time), my MSN messages will not send01:15
QalimasThe list will not update for my contacts often01:15
QalimasExample, it'll show someone as online when they are not01:15
kkathmanQalimas: this is because that any programs, besides the real MSN and AIM, are technically hacks and periodically get "blocked" by their respective tech centers - there is less and less of that tho now01:16
kkathmanyou would have the same problem with "Trillian" on Windows01:17
QalimasI have no problems using Gaim, but I don't like the GTK interface in KDE01:17
kkathmanbut I personally havent had a problem01:17
kkathmanI do know that occasionally things go wacko, and thats why (especially with the merger going on)01:17
tracy_anyone have a link for an updated linux driver for an nvidia tnt agp card?01:17
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hawkingwhat's the grub option to disable graphic boot?01:18
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yellowdarthawking: in /boot/grub/menu.lst01:20
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hawkingyes?01:20
yellowdartwhere is says "quiet splash" for each menu option01:20
hawkingyes?01:21
yellowdartcomment that part out...you can put verbose too i think...01:21
rancehi guys01:21
yellowdartbut that shouldnt be needed01:21
hawkingI already removed it01:21
hawkingand I see a blank screen on startup no console nothing01:21
yellowdartthen put verbose instead01:22
hawkinghmm I'll try that01:22
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hawkingok trying that... I'll come back soon01:23
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rancedoes anybody know how to turn off cd automount?01:25
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_magnusWhich package do I install to get the eclipse IDE?01:26
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yellowdarteclipse-sdk01:27
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GameOverhow do i give write permission to folders that wont let me paste or do anything to them?01:31
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yellowdartGameOver: 'sudo chown -R user:group /folder' or 'sudo chmod -R +777 /folder'01:32
yellowdartthe first one actually changes who owns it..the 2nd changes who can write to it01:33
yellowdartand user is your username...and group is a group you belong to...01:33
GameOvercan i do it so that it applies to everything01:33
yellowdart-R01:33
yellowdartmeans recursively01:34
yellowdartwhich means all the contents follow suit01:34
GameOverok i will give it a try01:35
Elsan_Is there any way to make apps not use the KDE color settings besides running as root/sudo?01:35
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GameOveryellowdart: works great.. thanks01:39
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yellowdartGameOver: no problem01:39
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hawkingI tried putting verbose on boot line01:41
hawkingdidn't work :/01:41
hawkingwhat can i do?01:41
_guestHi! how do i set the default gateway under kubuntu? I know i can use route add default gw <address> but how do i make this stick through reboots?01:42
hawkingcan someone help me with this? I can't see anything on boot and clicking ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work01:43
hawkingI can't see the tty1 either01:43
hawkinghow can i set kdm to start at startup?01:43
_guesti found it in the FAQ, thanks!01:47
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yellowdarthawking: did you change the runlevel of KDM?...if so, you need to put it back to get it on startup01:48
hawkinghow?01:49
yellowdartdidnt you change it to runlevel 1? (vaguely remember)01:49
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TrollinatorHello, can somebody help me to install my WLAN?01:53
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neoncodeDoes linux support nvidia's SLI multi-GPU rendering?01:59
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kkathmanneoncode:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html02:02
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hawkingI have to find a way... I get a blank screen on bootup right after the first boot lines when I boot in normal mode but when I boot in recovery mode everything just runs ok....02:04
hawkinganyone here?02:05
neoncodekkathman: Woo! I am so going to get SLI in my next computer... I hope...02:05
hawkingI try adding console=tty0 to grub02:06
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username011806so mates.. just me?.. or unnofficial kubuntu faq supporting apt sources others have warned will bork my k install please?.. tx02:12
username011806i.e. multiverse etc?02:13
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transgress_okay when i try to connect my desktop directly to my modem after it's been connected to the router, and then run ifup, it tries searching the for the dhcp from the router instead of whatever is being broadcasted from the modem02:19
transgress_is there a way to fix this?02:19
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mcscrufflo , how can i list all dirs and sub dirs02:20
kkathmanmcscruff: ls -l02:20
kkathmanfor a particular dir02:21
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protocolcan anyone lend me a hand?02:22
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mcscruffty kath02:22
kkathmannp02:23
mcscruffbut that dont list the subdirs02:23
kkathmanhmm02:23
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kkathmanyou want like top to bottom?02:23
mcscruffyep :)02:24
mcscruffof every folder name i have in that dir02:24
mcscruffls -R is gd, but it gives files too02:24
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kkathmanmcscruff: hmm yeah02:26
kkathmantry man ls  that might help02:26
kkathmanthats what I was doing :)02:26
Elsan_Is the KDE 3.5 release repository down?02:26
Elsan_www.kubuntu.org seems down also...02:27
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tracy_is there a way to change the fonts on kde? i have my screen resolution at like 1400x1050, but the fonts everywhere make it look like 1024x768. =[02:30
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cinderhola02:31
cinderhay alguien??02:31
kkathmanmcscruff: I even tried to fake it out with -Q "" and it didnt work02:31
kkathman!es02:31
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.02:31
cinderokok, I didn't know the language02:31
cindersorry02:31
kkathmannp02:32
cinderWhere is the option for my kde to look like osx?02:32
cinderI mean, the bar at the top02:32
kalenedraelIt's in the control thingo, Desktop -> Behavior02:33
Elsan_www.kubuntu.org is down...02:33
cinderkalenedrael: thanks!!02:34
kkathmancinder - sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira    then use the system settings - appearance  window decorations/styles and choose baghira02:34
kkathmanthen install like kxdocker or something02:34
cinderyeap, I saw freedy shots02:34
cinderin k gallery02:34
mcscruffkkathman, if i can filter so it only shows files with a certain extension, how do i do the opposite02:34
kkathmanpersonally I think it looks terrible but...to each his own02:34
kalenedraelYeah, no problem.02:35
kkathmanmcscruff: yah I did that too :)02:35
kkathmanhehe02:35
mcscruffhow do i do it02:35
mcscruff:(02:35
mcscruffi know there is only about 2 filetypes in there02:35
mcscruffgot it :)02:38
kkathmankewl02:39
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gachhello02:42
vgearrrgh, is it possible to prevent panel autoshowing if keyboardbutton is not pressed?02:42
gachi have some serious problems here02:42
kkathmangach lets hear about it :)02:42
gachfirst of all my sound doesnt work quite right02:42
gachi have an hda card02:42
kkathmanhda card?02:42
gachyeah azalia hda02:43
gachinterated02:43
gachand i downloaded and installed the latest alsa source02:43
gachcompiled installed it02:43
kkathmanok02:43
gachand everithing went fine02:43
kkathmanyou have NO sound card to play stuff or no sound PERIOD02:43
gachits just that i cant get more sound that a repeating soound of drums02:44
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gachthe drums from de gdm02:44
gachit kept beating and beating02:44
gachrepeating02:44
kkathmanhmmm02:44
PuppiesOnAcidOk, question:  if there are updates to ubuntu and ubuntu packages, does kubuntu sort of lag behind since it's kind of an offshoot of ubuntu?02:44
gachand i cant play a damn thing02:44
kkathmanPuppiesOnAcid: no02:45
gach..02:45
PuppiesOnAcidDoes kubuntu handle dual-monitors pretty well?02:45
kkathmanPuppiesOnAcid: they use the same ubuntu core...only difference is that kubuntu uses KDE02:45
gachplease... any ideas with my sound problem02:45
gacheverithin loads fine02:45
kkathmanPuppiesOnAcid: as far as I know yes02:45
PuppiesOnAcidI remember setting up my dual monitor setup manually in Gentoo way back when...and it's a bitch.02:45
kkathmangach.... what sound program?02:46
gachand it gets recognized02:46
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PuppiesOnAcidKDE uses X.Org, correct?02:46
gachsound in general02:46
PuppiesOnAcider, kubuntu02:46
kkathmanPuppiesOnAcid: as does gnome02:46
PuppiesOnAcidCool02:46
PuppiesOnAcidWell, I downloaded kubuntu because linus and others say KDE is better02:46
PuppiesOnAcidAnd they say it is prettier02:46
PuppiesOnAcidI like pretty02:46
gachit is02:46
kkathmanits a matter of opinion02:46
kkathmanbeauty is in the eye of the beholder02:47
gachi cant get nothing out of this!!!02:47
kkathmangach what are you using for a sound program?02:47
gachalsa02:47
kkathmanahh ok02:47
kkathmanbut you compiled it?02:48
gachyes02:48
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Rocco83hi02:48
kkathmanand there was something wrong with the previous alsa?02:48
gachyes02:48
kkathmanI see02:48
gachit hanged the hotplug subsystem02:48
kkathmandid you have sound before this?02:48
gachnop02:49
kkathmanhmm02:49
kkathmanok02:49
gachbreezy has problem with my sound card and the hotplug02:49
Rocco83i HAVE to remove automatic mount of external disk. how can i do it?02:49
gachi needed to do a few thins02:49
gachbut everithing installed ok02:49
kkathmanRocco83: sudo unmount <device?02:49
gachmodules are loaded correctly02:49
Rocco83kkathman, no, remove automatic mount, not remove mounted device02:50
kkathmanRocco83: oh ok... go into the fstab and remove the auto or add noauto02:50
gachput noauto on your fstab02:50
gachopen fstab rocco02:50
gachsearch for the device02:50
gachand in the options02:50
gachput noauto02:51
Rocco83so i have to add first my device02:51
Rocco83cause i have none about sdb (external usb-storage)02:51
PuppiesOnAcidgach: What kind of soundcard do you have?02:51
gachpuppies azalia hda02:52
Rocco83right?02:52
gachrocoo02:53
gachi guess you need it..02:53
gachdo you use gnome or kde?02:53
Rocco83console.02:53
gach.............02:53
gachall conole02:53
gach?02:54
Rocco83but kde,,,02:54
Rocco83as dm02:54
gachno graphic ui?02:54
Rocco83(i like a lot konsole)02:54
Rocco83yes, yes, ok, i am using kde :)02:54
gachrocco02:56
gachsearch in the control panel02:56
gachi think i remember you can disable automount from there02:56
Rocco83i tried02:57
Rocco83i'll retry02:57
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gachif that doesnt work.. i always do the fstab thing02:58
gachit works everytime02:58
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tracy_is it at all possible to change the fonts in the k menu?03:00
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markriantracy_: you have to change application fonts settings03:01
tracy_i did03:01
tracy_still huge03:01
tech9inerso mates.. me 2nd lappy loaded up with kubuntu 5.10..03:01
markrianAre application fonts settings okay?03:01
tech9inergettn bit 'korn'fused on unofficial k faq site..03:01
tech9inertells one to download 'preferences' file and 'sources.list' blah blah03:02
tech9inerbut im not finding an original /etc/apt/preferences file ? and the one the faq offers is 'hoary' vs freshly installed 'breezy' ?03:03
tech9inernot 2 mention fact that faq seems based on 64bit systems?03:03
tech9ineram i missing something here please?03:04
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tracy_markrian, where did you find application fonts settings?03:05
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markriantracy_: settings:/LookNFeel/ in konqueror, then Fonts03:08
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rancehi kids03:09
rancehow are we doing03:09
tech9ineranyone configured fresh kubuntu 5.10 following the unofficial faq ^^ above please?..03:09
tech9inerg'day rance03:09
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tracy_i dont have an application fonts settings. just general, fixed width, toolbar, menu, window title, taskbar, and desktop. all of those are set to a size thats smaller than the ones are in the kicker/kmenu03:12
Tallia1Kubuntumatlab keep crashing.. but i am using the same version that i used long time ago.. i receive a segmentation fault or a BAD OPTION error from the X server... what do you think could be?03:14
grim76kbuntu.org repo having problems tonight?03:14
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_jeffhey guys03:16
PuppiesOnAcidIs there anything equivalent to iTunes on linux?03:17
tracy_so theres no other way to get the fonts to change in kde 3.5? im stuck with these huge fonts?03:17
_jeffdoes anyone know how to find ur mac adress in kubuntu?03:17
PuppiesOnAcidLike, not to buy music, but just to organize your songs?03:17
PuppiesOnAcidand stuff03:17
tech9inertracy_: dija check over in #kde guv?03:17
Tallia1Kubuntuamarok is itunes equivalence03:17
_jeffpuppiesonacid: amarok seems to work well for me03:17
tracy_tech9iner, aye03:17
_jeffdoes anyone know where i can find my mac adress?03:18
=== tech9iner LOVEzzz amarok ;]
tech9ineramarok.. well.. just ROKz! LOL03:18
grim76_jeff: ifconfig should show your mac addy03:18
_jeffgrim76: thanks man03:18
grim76np03:18
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Tallia1Kubuntutracy_: how can i install kde 3.5?03:20
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tracy_Tallia1Kubuntu, you already running kubuntu?03:20
Tallia1Kubuntuyes03:20
nalioth!kde3.503:21
ubotukde3.5 is, like, totally, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php03:21
tech9inerwhat apt-get install command is best to get all necessary xfce4 on this lappy please.. kde dtop bit heavy for this old Pll 266/128ram lol03:22
Tallia1Kubuntuit is down..03:22
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tracy_Tallia1Kubuntu, you have to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in your /etc/sources.list03:23
Tallia1Kubuntuand then?03:23
tech9inerfor hdd space's sake mates..03:24
Tallia1Kubuntutracy_: once i insert that line what do i have to do?03:24
nalioth!kde 3.503:24
ubotuI heard kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php03:24
naliothgrrr03:24
Tallia1Kubuntuthe website is DOWN03:24
tech9inerhow doth kubuntu noobz [ahem ;]  remove as much of kde bloat as possible without losing kde apps .. can be done please?03:25
naliothTallia1Kubuntu: if the website is down, the repo is down, too03:25
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mcscruffis there any tools in linux like deamon tools (need to emulate an iso for vmware coz its not mounting properly in vmware)03:25
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naliothtech9iner: if you don't want bloat, run fvwm or xfce403:25
tech9inerahem.. rofl.. ^^^03:25
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kalenedraelDon't use X :P03:26
wakestI am on a fresh install of kubuntu, I want to install gnome, what package do I install03:27
tech9ineris it possible to keep lean basic kde apps & utilities, i.e. konqueror etc, without using up the entire.. what like 1gig of hdd for the kde part?03:27
naliothwakest: install "ubuntu-desktop"03:27
tech9inerhehe.. ty kalenedrael .. but too gui dependent here for that extreme lol03:27
wakestahh03:28
wakestthanks03:28
kalenedraelI dunno, use directfb or something other than X.03:28
mcscruffwakest, why not just use "ubuntu"03:28
kalenedraelBecause GNOME sucks :P03:28
mcscruffhe wants gnome desktop03:29
mcscruff:S03:29
kalenedraelOh.03:29
wakestI had downloaded the kubuntu install/live dvd03:29
kalenedraelWait, then what the hell?03:29
wakestbut I decided I wanted gnome03:29
kalenedraelubuntu-desktop :P03:29
mcscruffwhy isnt deamon tools on linux :(03:29
wakestdo you have to recompile kde applications to run in gnome03:30
mcscruffno03:30
wakestreally?03:30
mcscruffaslong as u have the kdelibs etc03:30
wakestso, if I install gnome, and kdelids, I can use all the k apps in gnome03:30
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wakestYAY03:31
wakestthat makes me happy03:31
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mcscruffwhat gnome apps could u possibly need03:32
mcscruffi have not found 1 i use03:32
wakestif I do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will it give me an option to log into either kde or gnome?03:32
tech9inerahem.. cough*gnomemeeting*coug bingo! ;] ] 03:32
grim76Anyone know how to setup beagled to run automatically when you login?03:32
wakestor is that a seprate install03:32
mcscruffu get the choice03:33
mcscruffif u have a kdm (gui log-on screen) just click session03:33
mcscruffthen gnome/kde03:33
mcscruff**cough**kde as default***cough***03:33
wakestI like polish...03:34
mcscruffanyway NN all03:34
wakestkde is Vary windows Esq, no offense03:34
wakestI am a mac guy03:35
wakestI am running this on a powerbook03:35
kalenedraelKDE is hardly windows-esque.03:35
kalenedraelI mean, you can make it look that way...03:35
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kalenedraelYou can also make it look like OSX, if you like.03:35
wakestit feels that way to me, in camparison to gnome03:35
wakestI will use both03:35
mcscruffor you can make it look like my desktop :)03:35
kalenedraelOr like mine :P03:36
wakestI like options, thats why I am using linux in the first place, gawd03:36
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tech9ineror like a 'roll ur own' even..03:36
mcscruffi use linux then windows in vmware :)03:36
wakestI am looking forward to getting vmware installed03:37
wakestand playing around with crapy old windows and dos apps on my 2000 dollar powerbook03:38
Arcanimusis there a vmware for linux?03:38
mcscruffyep03:38
Arcanimusseriously?03:38
Arcanimusthat's sick03:38
mcscruffyep03:38
Arcanimusi thought it was only for windows03:38
mcscruff[02:37]  <mcscruff> i use linux then windows in vmware :)03:38
mcscruffgave it away really03:38
Arcanimuswell i was just confirming03:38
Arcanimusi thought i misread03:38
mcscruffkk :P03:38
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mcscruffsry, its very late and sarcasm sets in03:39
Arcanimusit's ok03:39
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Arcanimusmcscruff, so "vmware workstation" is what i want?03:40
mcscruffyep03:41
mcscruff15 day trial too03:41
mcscruff:)03:41
mcscruff:P03:41
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mcscruffi need a few windows apps (mostly converters)03:43
wakesthow do you log in as root?03:43
mcscruffthere is no root03:43
naliothubotu: tell wakest about root03:43
mcscruff:)03:43
naliothwakest: you don't03:43
grim76Any ideas on starting beagled automatically when I login?03:43
mcscruffnn all03:44
Arcanimusmcscruff, i can't download vmware for some reason - their proxy is down or something?03:44
Arcanimuswanna DCC me the installer03:44
Arcanimus?03:44
wakestwow, I feel like an idiot, I was trying to talk to ubotu,03:46
wakestdidn't realize it was a bot03:46
wakestman, I think I must need some sleep or something03:46
ArcanimusLOL03:46
naliothgrim76: it should start automagically upon installation (if you use the one from the repos)03:46
naliothwakest: the root account is disabled in kubuntu for a reason that ubotu linked you to03:47
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wakestI get it03:48
grim76nalioth: I did use the repo, but when I launch beagle to do a search it tells me I need to start beagled03:48
wakestI figured out my problem03:48
naliothgrim76: that doesnt sound correct03:48
naliothit is supposed to put a link to beagled into your startup stuff03:48
grim76nalioth: where do I need to look for that?03:49
naliothgrim76: i'd drop a symlink into your ~/,kde/autostart03:50
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wakestis there a quick way to see your hard drive usage, a non termanal way03:52
wakestlike on the desktop03:52
wakestor system tray03:52
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naliothwakest: there are a number of panel applets that do those things03:53
grim76nalioth: thanks I placed a link in there and will see if it fires up next time when I reboot for the next Kernel03:53
naliothgrim76: it's supposed to go in some system startup file, but autostart will do until you can find the correct file (or as long as you like)03:54
wakestis there one already installed by default?03:54
naliothwakest: i'm not that familiar with all the toys in kde03:54
grim76nalioth: I am the only one on the system so for me is fine.03:54
naliothkkathman may be able to help you when he returns03:55
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naliothgrim76: ah, good then.03:55
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olaffcan someone tell me how do i install new themes for kde?04:21
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olaffthanks04:24
olaffT_T04:24
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goldbrickOn Kubuntu Live, how do I mount my machines harddrives?05:04
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cinderi have installed superkaramba + tux bar05:31
cinderbut i do not have allowed the "configure theme" option05:32
cinderdoes anybody knows why?05:32
cinderalsa happened with liquid wheather05:32
cinderany idea??05:35
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jhealeyhelo, can anyone help me with getting a better res than 640x48005:44
jhealeyanyone here?05:44
cinderhi05:45
cinderwassap?05:45
jhealeyi need help with fixing my video res05:45
cinderok05:45
jhealeyare you one of the gurus on this channel? : )05:45
cinderahah no05:46
cinderfar away...05:46
jhealey<--- will paypal $2.34 to anyone who can fix my video05:46
cinderhaha05:46
cinderok,05:46
jhealeywhere are you cinderfella?05:47
cinderarg05:47
jhealeyas in 'entina'?05:47
cinderedit xorg.conf05:47
cinderargentina05:47
_guestjhealey: try K Menu -> system settings -> display05:47
hawkingin what package is kdewallet?05:48
_guesthawking: apt-cache search kde wallet05:49
_guestdns gurus - how can i find out who owns the authoritative dns server for my domain?05:49
jhealey_guest, that didn'twork05:50
jhealeyi only have 640x480 and 320x05:50
cinderrun xorgconfig05:51
jhealeythat command is not in my path..05:51
jhealey_guest??05:51
_guestjhealey: cinder is right, you need to configure xorg.conf either manually or using a tool05:52
jhealeyok. i'm getting a screwdriver now05:52
jhealeyj/k. what tool?05:52
_guestheheh clever05:52
_guestthe original one was xf86config, but now they use xorg i have no idea...05:52
cinderlooking05:53
jhealeyok.  I have tried ubuntu and kubuntu, both install at this res05:53
jhealeyknoppix and fedora dont though05:53
jhealeythey worked fine05:53
jhealeyso i know it's not the hardware broke or something05:53
jhealeycinderblock?05:54
cindery05:54
cinderwhich hard do u have?05:54
jhealeyhard what?05:54
cindervideo05:54
jhealeyits a clone,05:54
cinderi mean, a sis card05:54
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cinderor which ine?05:54
jhealeyoh, the card, it is a radeon 700005:54
cinderone?05:54
cinderati05:54
jhealeyold radeon05:54
jhealeyyes05:54
jhealeythe driver it is using is 'ati'05:54
jhealeythe board is a gigabyte, running an amd chipset and athlon 1k05:55
jhealeyi've had it for 7 years : )05:55
_stephenhow does one change the default OS to load in GRUB?05:55
cinderyour res config is ok?05:56
cinderi mean05:56
cinder"1024*768" "800*600"05:56
cinderthere is a line that says that05:56
cinderwhy don't u check05:56
jhealeyyes, there are lots of those lines05:57
jhealeyit appears to have detected bothe the monitor and video card correctly,05:57
jhealeythey are both listed in xorg.conf05:57
jhealeySection "Device"05:58
jhealey        Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc.05:58
jhealeyRadeon 7200 (R100 QD)"05:58
jhealey        Driver          "ati"05:58
jhealey        BusID           "PCI:1:5:0"05:58
cinderthats ok05:58
jhealeyEndSection05:58
jhealeySection "Monitor"05:58
jhealey        Identifier      "DELL P991"05:58
jhealey        Option          "DPMS"05:58
jhealeyEndSection05:58
jhealeySection "Screen"05:58
jhealey        Identifier      "Default Screen"05:58
jhealey        Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc.05:59
jhealeyRadeon 7200 (R100 QD)"05:59
jhealey        Monitor         "DELL P991"05:59
jhealey        DefaultDepth    2405:59
jhealey        SubSection "Display"05:59
jhealey                Depth           105:59
jhealey                Modes           "1600x1200" "12805:59
jhealey0x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"05:59
jhealeyoops05:59
jhealeysorry05:59
jhealeyi won't try that again05:59
jhealeybut you see what I mean, it appears to b eok05:59
cinderyeah06:00
hawkingrafb.net/paste !!!06:00
cinderi have installed superkaramba + tux bar06:01
cinderand i cannot use the "configure theme" option06:02
cinderdon't allowed06:02
cinderany idea??06:02
cinderthe same with liquid wheather...06:02
jhealeywhat suppository did you download them from?06:02
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cinderjhealey: where are u from06:03
jhealeytexas USA06:03
cindersuppository = thing that u put on your ass06:03
jhealeyoh. sorry06:03
cinderrepository = where u get files06:03
jhealeyoh oh oh.06:03
jhealeyso sorry06:03
cinderejejjee06:03
cinderdanger!06:03
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jhealeyi ahve to go06:05
jhealeybye cinder06:05
jhealeythanks -guest06:05
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kevmanHow do I disable animated progress bars in KDE?06:10
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t-k-fuhi06:40
t-k-fui installed kubuntu about a week ago, and it's also my first time trying linux06:41
t-k-fuit's on my laptop, though06:41
t-k-fuand i can't figure out how to get wireless working06:42
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t-k-futhe wireless interface shows up as eth1 (my wired port is eth0), but i can't figure out how to actually connect to a network06:43
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t-k-fuany ideas?06:44
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jugheadt-k are you trying to use the wireless or the wired?06:56
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t-k-futhe wireless07:03
t-k-fu(sorry, afk)07:03
t-k-fuis there a utility to list networks or anything?07:04
jugheadhmmm I'm sure there is, but I don't know what it is07:04
jugheadare you plugged in through eth0 and eth1?07:04
t-k-fui'm using eht0 rght now07:11
t-k-fuif i was using eth1 i wouldn't be worried about getting it to work :)07:11
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mrdoctorheelo07:20
mrdoctorhola bob07:20
mrdoctoralguien me puede ayudar con ubuntu soy nuevo07:21
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robotgeek!fr07:23
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais07:23
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braxisIs there a default password for kubuntu07:27
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braxisFor some reason it never asked me during install and I can't seem to login to it07:27
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nalioth_zZzubotu: tell braxis about root07:29
braxisThat's new07:30
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defenderBGhi, i currently installed kubuntu and i have problems with setting my wireless lan07:31
defenderBGcan anybody help me?07:31
_fdelacruz_braxis on my experience, the default in ubuntu same in kubuntu root is not allowed to login you have to manually it and before the installation ends you have to supply your username and password07:31
defenderBGmy problem is that i cant find my wlan device...07:31
nalioth_zZzbraxis: read the URL ubotu sent you. it explains everything07:32
_fdelacruz_defenderBG try to check on your internet07:32
braxisYeah I am07:32
braxisIt's frustratingly retarded07:32
defenderBG@fdelacruz: what do you mean to check on my internet?07:33
_fdelacruz_go to the menu and choose internet after got to KWIFImanager07:33
_fdelacruz_i have no problem with my wifi im using also kubuntu its works fine for me07:33
defenderBGwell. have done it, unfortunatly it didnt find any device07:33
defenderBGi am not using centrino07:34
defenderBGso that is why it is not found automatic07:34
defenderBGa am using an acer with amd 64 and a NOT centrino integrated wlan07:34
defenderBGi couldnt find a driver for linux on the acer page, is there a way to use a windows driver instead?07:35
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_fdelacruz_defender Im sorry I can't help you with your problem cause in my case im using a usb wifi device that comes from linksy so its automatically detcted by my machine07:37
defenderBG:(07:37
defenderBGwell, gess i have to google...07:38
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kevmanI have Kubuntu running on a g3 iMac. Arts seems to stopping the sound from working. Can I disable it?07:49
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defenderBGhi, i just tried to install ndiswrapper on my laptop but it didnt have make08:04
defenderBGist this normal for kubuntu?08:04
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kevmanLord knows why, but Kubuntu doesn't install make or any other compiling apps08:05
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kevmanApt-get install automake will get you make, but, you'll need lots of other stuff too to compile.08:05
kkathman-awaykevman:   apt-get install build-essential08:06
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kkathmanthat gets alot, but obviously you need libraries...and those depend on what you are compiling of course08:06
kevmanOh, cool. Never knew08:06
PuppiesOnAcidIs there any way I can have a dual monitor setup without using Xinerama?08:08
defenderBGwell i have to use windows to connect and have to restart every time08:08
defenderBGcan you tell me all the packets i need to be able to compile?08:08
defenderBGso that i can download them now, reboot, install on kubuntu, then install ndiswrapper and live happili ever after...?08:08
kevmanMan, installing Kubuntu on an iMac = mess08:09
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PuppiesOnAcidHey, I never set a root password when running the kubuntu install08:20
PuppiesOnAcidWhat is it by default?08:20
hatake_kakashiread the website08:21
viviersfPuppiesOnAcid, there is none08:28
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getacereshi08:33
getacereskde 3.5.1 is supposed to be released today08:34
getaceresis there any package for kubuntu?08:34
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puppiesonacidWhat's a good KDE FTP client? (Graphical)08:51
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kkathmanpuppiesonacid: Kbear08:54
kkathmanpuppiesonacid: but you can use Konqueror08:55
kkathmanor any file manager for FTP08:55
raphinkkonqueror with ftp:// works great most of the time08:55
raphinkhi kkathman <><08:55
kkathmangreetings :)08:56
raphinkhow are you today kkathman ?08:57
kkathmanraphink: I am doing well, thanks...just doing some research on spam filters for my Kontact mail - Im getting innundated!08:58
kkathmando you happen to have any suggestions?08:58
kkathmanI have the Bogofilter already08:58
raphinkhmm08:58
raphinkI use spamassassin08:58
raphinkbogofilter is terrible08:59
raphinkI used it and it would treat as spam lots of messages from my friends08:59
raphinkso I just deinstalled it08:59
raphinkit's a shame but lots of people still use hotmail and such, don't use subjects and use bcc08:59
raphinkand yet I wish to receive their emails when they write to me09:00
kkathmanyes09:00
kkathmanbogofilter seems to have the opposite affect on me09:01
kkathmanit blocks nothing09:01
raphinkreally?09:01
raphinkdid you train it?09:01
raphinkI think it has to be trained iirc09:01
kkathmanIm not sure about that09:01
raphinkreporting spam manually in the begining09:01
kkathmanright now its like a very ornery pet...untrained :)09:01
raphinknot sure though09:01
kkathmanahh09:02
raphinkyou know with the spam button ;)09:02
kkathmanI need to look at it further then09:02
kkathmanbut spamassassin Ive heard a couple of people mention09:02
raphinkyep it's better imo09:02
Zappai've been using spamassassin for years, it's great09:03
Zappaparticularly version 309:03
raphink:)09:03
kkathmanraphink:  ok so I have a spam message in my box right now, but see no "spam" button??09:03
raphinkhmm it's not in the default view09:04
raphinkI had to add it to the bar09:04
raphinkbut you can right click ont he message09:04
raphinkand choose to treat it as spam09:04
kkathmanraphink:  yes I tried that also, but there is no such choice :(09:04
raphinkhmm let's see09:04
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raphinkkkathman: did you actually activate the spam filters in kmail?09:05
raphinkin Tools --> Anti-spam wizard09:05
puppiesonacidwoohoo, got dual monitors working09:05
kkathmanwell I clicked on that option that says Anti-spam wizard yes09:05
raphinkgreat puppiesonacid09:06
kkathmanthe option I DO get is to move the message to the "spam folder"09:06
kkathmanbut not mark it as spam09:06
raphinkkkathman: did you get a  list of existing spam apps on the comp?09:06
kkathmanthat was the only one09:06
raphinkwhen you right click on a message09:07
raphinkyou should have : Apply filter : Filter as spam09:07
raphinkif you activated the filter option in the spam wizard09:07
kkathmanaha I do have a button that says "Filter as Spam"09:07
puppiesonacidOk09:07
raphinkkkathman: ;)09:07
kkathmanbut not an option on the right click menu09:07
puppiesonacidSo what's a good KDE application that will allow me FTP access?09:07
raphinkkkathman: where is that option then?09:08
kkathmanoh wait09:08
kkathmanyes I do09:08
raphinkpuppiesonacid: konqueror09:08
raphinkpuppiesonacid: or kbear if you want a dedicated app09:08
kkathmansorry I was looking for SPAM and its FILTER09:08
raphinkyes kkathman09:08
raphinkpuppiesonacid: I use konqueror most of the time09:08
kkathmanraphink:  thank you09:08
puppiesonacidI think konqueror will do just fine.09:10
puppiesonacidMan, KDE is pretty freakin sweet.09:10
puppiesonacidIt even handles dual monitors pretty well.09:10
puppiesonacidOnce you get the x.org stuff setup09:10
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kkathmanraphink: thanks again...nighters :)09:13
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raphinknighty night kkathman <><09:14
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puppiesonacidWhere exactly, do I get the akode-mpeg package?09:19
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raphinkpuppiesonacid: what do you mean where?09:27
raphinkevery package on the repos can be gotten through apt-get09:27
puppiesonacidWell, it's not on there.09:28
puppiesonacidI'm wanting to play AAC and MP3 files through Kaffeine09:28
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raphinkraphink@sunchi:~$ apt-cache search akode09:28
raphinkakode - akode plugin for aRts09:28
raphinkakode-mpeg - akode mpeg plugin09:28
raphink...09:28
raphinkit's there for me ;)09:28
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raphinkit's in universe09:29
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susobuenas10:12
susoestais callaos o me da ami :D10:13
susojoe pos anda que si menudo plan llebais10:14
susopos ale adios10:14
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_fdelacruz_hi guys any utilities available that can convert pdf files to ordinary files?10:40
raphink_fdelacruz_: what is an ordinary file?10:41
_fdelacruz_raphink like .odt and .doc for office10:42
raphinkthat's not what I call an ordinary file10:42
raphink;)10:42
raphinkthere's a tool to convert to html10:42
_fdelacruz_raphink K i will try it what is that tool10:43
raphinkpdftohtml10:43
raphink:p10:43
_fdelacruz_i will try that10:44
raphink_fdelacruz_: there's also popplers-utils10:44
raphinkDescription: PDF utilitites (based on libpoppler)10:44
raphink This package contains pdftops (PDF to PostScript converter),10:44
raphink pdfinfo (PDF document information extractor), pdfimages10:44
raphink (PDF image extractor), pdftotext (PDF to text converter), and10:44
raphink pdffonts (PDF font analyzer).10:44
raphinkcan be useful ;)10:45
_fdelacruz_raphink popplers-utils is the tools?10:46
raphinkit's the name of the package10:46
_fdelacruz_thanks10:46
raphinkapt-cache search pdfto10:46
_fdelacruz_i try it10:46
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visik7ls10:47
visik7ops10:47
visik7:)10:47
visik7ok here my new problem of the dy10:47
visik7make menuconfig into a vanilla source works perfectly10:47
visik7make menuconfig into linux-source-2.6.12 says:10:48
visik7/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found10:48
visik7/usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found10:48
visik7wtf ?10:48
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robotgeekvisik7: install gcc-3.410:55
visik7why ?10:55
visik7isn't need on a vanilla kernel10:55
visik7why it's needed on ubuntu kernels ?10:56
robotgeekvisik7: i am not sure10:56
visik7of what ?10:56
robotgeekvisik7: why that is the case, why you require that line. maybe you can edit it out in the gcc-version.sh10:57
visik7btw gcc-3.4 installed10:57
visik7got another error:10:57
visik7here it is http://pastebin.com/51434410:58
visik7and linux-kernel-headers are installed10:59
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LinuxapprenticeI'm trying to install flashplayer but I get an error11:00
Linuxapprenticeur architecture x86_64 doesn't support it11:00
LinuxapprenticeI have AMD6411:00
LinuxapprenticeBTW which is the IRC program for Linux?11:01
robotgeekvisik7: no clue, askin in #ubuntu11:01
visik7:(11:01
Linuxapprenticefor the second?11:01
robotgeekLinuxapprentice: koversation?11:02
Linuxapprenticeok i found the Xchat11:04
LinuxapprenticeI'll try it11:04
Linuxapprenticesilly question: but I'm only an apprentice ;) where's the setup.exe of programs?11:05
_fdelacruz_raphink I already install xpdf where can I found that11:06
raphinkwhere can you find what?11:07
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_fdelacruz_the shortcut for that utils11:07
raphinkfor what utils ?11:07
_fdelacruz_the xpdf-uitls that you told me a while ago I already install it11:08
raphinksorry _fdelacruz_ but 1) I'm not in your head and 2) I'm on about 20 channels ;)11:08
_fdelacruz_k11:08
raphinkI didn'et tell you about xpdf-utils11:08
raphinkas far as I remember I told you about poppler-utils11:08
_fdelacruz_k i will isntall tah11:08
_fdelacruz_after that where I cand find that11:09
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abionnnnhas anyone managed to get adobe acroread to run properly in kubuntu?11:18
abionnnnor run at all in my case heh11:19
Saw^Could somebody help on setting up a RT2500 wlan card? I've got a driver for it now, but seems like pcmcia is not working or the card is anyway not detected.11:19
arrinmurrabionnnn: is there some something special you need it for?11:20
abionnnnyou bet ;)11:20
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arrinmurrabionnnn: ok. just thought that maybe kpdf / kghostview could do11:22
abionnnnarrinmurr: unfortunately, those don't format things perfectly11:22
abionnnnxpdf comes close but it's annoying as hell to use11:23
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C-O-L-TI AM SO HAPPY I"VE JUST GUT THE UBUNTU SHIPIT FREE CD's11:31
dark_suicabionnnn, i just use konqueror for pdf files... (and works better than xpdf for me11:32
abionnnndoesn't that  use kpdf anyway?11:32
abionnnnif by better you mean it doesn't format it properly then maybe :P11:32
abionnnnI guess I'll stick to ghost view11:33
Xemanth^what about adobe reader for linux11:34
Xemanth^:D11:34
abionnnnXemanth^: doesn't run at all11:34
abionnnnabionnnn@x50:~$ acroread11:34
abionnnnabionnnn@x50:~$11:34
abionnnnyay, nothing :P11:34
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dipnlikacroread, eew. i just use it for testing11:35
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dipnlikand speaking of pdf, when i print to pdf, documents don't look right in acroread11:35
dipnlikblurry and/or unaligned chars11:35
abionnnnprobably the filter's fault rather than acroread11:35
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dipnlikabionnnn: any ideas on how to solve this issue? i usually need to print html files to pdf...11:36
abionnnndo you use a2ps then ps2pdf?11:36
dipnlikabionnnn: no, i print using the printer dialog, it has an option to print to pdf11:37
abionnnnohhh that's probably rat poo hackish code :P11:37
abionnnnuse a2ps11:37
dipnlikabionnnn: does this work only for text files or html too?11:38
abionnnna2ps takes in html files as far as I know11:38
abionnnnI think it stands for "all to postscript"11:38
dipnlikoic. thought it was ascii to ps :P11:39
abionnnnhehe :)11:39
dipnlikabionnnn: just noticed there is a html2ps package :P11:41
dipnlikanyway i'll try a2ps and ps2pdf, thanks a lot11:41
dipnlikthough it would be GREAT if the gui option 'just worked'11:42
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dipnlikabionnnn: problems with a2ps :(11:45
dipnliknetscape: command not found o.O11:45
dipnlikabionnnn: do i really need to install netscape for this to work?11:46
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abionnnnhmmm I don't think it needs netscape lemme take a look11:52
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dipnlikabionnnn: and html2ps doesn't read stylesheets, so... discarded11:53
abionnnnI think that's where netscape comes in I'm afraid11:53
abionnnnoh11:53
abionnnnbut you can use lynx11:53
dipnlikeeeeeeeew11:54
abionnnn"There is one big difference though: with Lynx you will get a pure textual output proceesed by a2ps, though with Netscape real nice PostScript is produced (including the pictures etc.)."11:54
abionnnnewwwww indeed :P11:54
Tm_Tlynx11:54
Tm_T<311:54
dipnlikabionnnn: guess i'll still convert my html to pdf using vnc and the pdf printer on windows :(11:55
abionnnnawwww =P what do ya use for vnc btw?11:55
dipnlikTm_T: lynx eew, links2 yay11:55
Tm_Tdipnlik: both good ;)11:55
abionnnnlynx has it's use11:55
abionnnnI forgot what it was though ;P11:55
Tm_T->11:55
dipnlikabionnnn: i use krdc11:56
abionnnnneat it comes with kubuntu11:56
dipnlikabionnnn: but really need to take a look if ultravnc is available11:56
dipnlikabionnnn: only use it because it came preinstalled :P11:56
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abionnnnhehe11:56
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SkrotFFSHi, Where can I define standard fonts for gtk-applications in kubuntu? The menu-fonts are huge :)12:16
ninnghizidhain the systemsettings, filed under appearance.12:16
SkrotFFSninnghizidha: It's set to the same as KDE, but the menu's are still huge12:18
SkrotFFSIt's eclipse btw, a java-application12:18
SkrotFFSBut I think it's using GTK for gui12:18
ninnghizidhawell .. set it to qt and adjust the fonts.12:19
SkrotFFShuh? Set it to Qt?12:20
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ninnghizidhaits at qt-wrapper for gtk.12:21
SkrotFFSI can't say I'm following12:21
SkrotFFSHow do I "set it to Qt"?12:21
ninnghizidhadon't you have a qt-skin to chose from the list?12:22
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Rocco83SkrotFFS, afaik eclipse use swing.12:22
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SkrotFFSRocco83: Yes, but swing can use either GTK or Motif or something?12:22
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SkrotFFSokay setting it to qt worked. Thanks :)12:23
ninnghizidhagreat.12:27
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_mindspinhi, how can I get a USB stick (/media/sda1) visible for normal users (ie. non sudoers)12:33
_mindspinI can mount it as root12:33
_mindspinbut not as regular user12:33
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dark_suic_mindspin, i think it should work doing the following12:40
dark_suicopen kcontrol (run command -> kcontrol)12:41
dark_suicperipheral -> storage devices12:41
dark_suicadvanced -> activate backend HAL12:41
dark_suicthis should work, if it doesn't please tell me and i'll tell you the hard way :P12:41
_mindspinwait I have to check it on the machine12:42
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bogoI was trying to upgrade my KDE to 3.5 with apt-get, but I keep getting error messages12:48
dark_suicbogo, what messages u get?12:48
bogoI used 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install kde'12:49
dark_suicwouldn't it be easier to try apt-get dist-upgrade?12:49
bogoit says that kde depends on 'kde-amusements' and 'kdenetwork' that will not be installed12:49
dark_suicif you say just dist-upgrade or upgrade without dist :P it just should work correctly12:50
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bogoif I used 'dist-upgrade' I'll have to download too much stuff, and my connection is not that fast12:50
bogodoesn't apt-get resolve the dependencies? I mean, shouldn't it download the 2 packages too, instead of complain?12:52
bogowhat I want to do I just upgrade KDE, it's dependencies and libraries, I don't care about all the rest I have installed12:53
bogoand I thought that by using '...install kde' it would resolve the dependencies and libraries problems12:55
bogois there some other parameter to pass on to apt-get? am I missing something?12:55
dark_suicbogo, if you try to install kde just like that you will have to download even more stuff :P12:56
dark_suickde is a little package, but it just has a list of the packages needed to install, and it will install all the packages missing12:56
dark_suicso you will have to download even more than you have...12:56
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bogoreally? so you think it's better to use dist-upgrade or upgrade?12:58
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kottletthi! how stable is dapper supposed to be, atm?01:10
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vvatsahi all01:25
raphinkhi vvatsa01:27
vvatsaraphink: hi01:27
vvatsaquite in here today.01:27
raphinkyes quite01:28
raphinkquite quiet01:28
msermskottlett - it's still alpha, so I guess it's supposed to be pretty unstable. In practice, I've found it to be pretty solid.01:29
msermsGuess this stuff is all realtive though01:29
vvatsa:)01:29
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igorayebHow i find de archive reponse to execute comands on the boot01:35
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_janHello, i've got a question about KDE Icon Themes. In the dialog under System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons I can only find the Crytal SVG Theme and I personally don't like these Icons. Obviously I need to install another theme. But all I can find are some tar.gz files containing .svg or .png files. Somehow this is what I expected, but KDE tells me, that these aren't valid icon theme archives. So my question, where can I find a valid i01:43
raphinkthere are some icon packages _jan01:46
raphinkotherwise, you can get more on kde-apps.org01:46
raphink $ apt-cache search icons | grep kde01:47
raphink^^ to find the kde icon themes that you can get through apt-get _jan01:47
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SkrotFFSHi. I installed kubuntu on my Acer Travelmate 3004 the other day, and (almost) every thing has been working wonderfull. My problem now is that, on the front of the laptop there are two buttons. Wlan on/off and bluetooth on/off. These buttons used to work. Now they don't. If I check dmesg I seem to get the same keycode every time I press them, before I got a different number if the button was already pressed and if it wasn't. Is it likely that this01:51
SkrotFFSoblem?01:51
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mth`MAWDu laggst wie sau01:55
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phlewisgreetings02:05
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phlewisI'm using latested kubuntu. Am having trouble installing midnight commander. Any suggestions for me?02:06
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phlewisInstalling mc. Anybody?02:11
dark_suicsudo apt-get install mc?02:12
dark_suicit should work...02:13
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phlewiscomputer sez: E: Couldn't find package mc02:14
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phlewisI don't see mc listed in Adept, either, unfortunately.02:15
dark_suicone sec :)02:16
dark_suicyou have activated the universe repositories?02:16
dark_suicit's there02:16
phlewishowto activate universe repositories?02:16
RiddellManage Repositories02:18
Riddellright click on the universe ones and enable02:18
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phlewisdark_suic and Riddell: thankyou thankyou thankyou!02:21
dark_suicnevermind02:21
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phlewis#quit02:26
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omarHello what is the new version of kubuntu02:31
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nlindbladhello02:31
raphinkbreezy is the last stable one02:32
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omarhow cab i update02:34
omarI am on the old one02:34
omar}}}02:37
omar??02:37
Riddellomar: bottom of http://help.ubuntu.com/kde/krelease-notes/C/index.html02:37
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vijay hi everybody!! anybody have the motherboard with via k8m800 chipset, and xorg.conf is set for via drivers02:38
omarRindell i can't burn02:38
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Tonio_Riddell: still need tester for the latest amarok ?02:41
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RiddellTonio_: always helps :)02:41
Riddellsee kubuntu.org02:42
Tonio_yep02:42
Tonio_Riddell: found a little issue with konq's profiles02:42
Tonio_I'll send you a patch toonight02:42
Riddellhmm?02:42
Riddellok02:42
Tonio_on certain websites, when you open a link with javascript + blank, the bookmarks bar appears in the new window02:43
Tonio_I think I have a solution to that, but I need to make tests02:43
Riddellhmm02:43
Tonio_Riddell: want an example ?02:44
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SkrotFFSHow do I go about if I want (or need) to compile my own kernel in kubuntu? May I make a .deb of it, like in Debian?02:55
crimsunSkrotFFS: sure, the same tools are available02:56
BuZzYwhen i boot my pc, it stops on root filesystem check, because it says that a file has "6 multiply-claimed block(s), shared with 0 file(s)" so i can't boot linux. i don't want to delete that file, how can i solve my problem?02:56
SkrotFFScrimsun: Is there a howto about it somewhere? I want to keep the config from the distro kernel, but add some stuff02:57
crimsunBuZzY: make a backup copy on a completely different storage medium, then reboot from a live cd and e2fsck the filesystem02:57
crimsunSkrotFFS: any standard howto will suffice. make menuconfig parses /boot/config-$(uname -r) automagically02:58
SkrotFFScrimsun: ah, but about making a deb :)02:58
BuZzYcrimsun what's the difference between fsck and e2fsck?02:59
BuZzYwhat's better?02:59
crimsunSkrotFFS: you still have to configure it (same way), then you can use make-kpkg02:59
crimsunBuZzY: fsck is just a wrapper02:59
crimsunBuZzY: in the end, e2fsck is invoked02:59
SkrotFFScrimsun: I know, but I was thinking of a howto which explains how to use make-kpkg etc to make a kernel .deb03:00
crimsunSkrotFFS: that howto is in the kernel-package documentation03:00
crimsunSkrotFFS: you may also use a variety of Web search engines to cull results03:01
xwolf-there is this 'dpkg-reconfigure -something xserver-xorg' command... what do i have to put in the '-thingy' to change the screen resolution (only)?03:01
SkrotFFScrimsun: I know, I was just asking to check if there was one made by kubuntu :)03:01
crimsunSkrotFFS: check the forums03:01
crimsunI wouldn't doubt there is03:02
SkrotFFSOkay, thanks :)03:02
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BuZzYcrimsun so it s the same if i run fsck?03:05
xwolf-there is this 'dpkg-reconfigure -something xserver-xorg' command... what do i have to put in the '-thingy' to change the screen resolution (only)?03:07
crimsunBuZzY: essentially03:08
BuZzYwhat?03:09
BuZzYyes or no?03:09
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Firetechphew, nothing was corrupt, it was just my initrd which didn't wanbt to load (happens sometimnes on warm hardware reboot)03:21
Firetechseemed like amaroK got a major memory leak though03:21
Firetecheither that or Azureus03:21
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Firetechhmm03:22
Firetechwrong channel.03:23
BuZzYwhat channel would be exact?03:25
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vgehmm, what shoud be about the default packer amount available to install with apt-get with all repositories?03:26
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tictricsomeone got experience with cups and remote ipp printer via cups?03:32
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mipsHi03:41
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vgehow i add repositories to install azureus, i tought i had all of em setup, but ovously not?03:44
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mipsWhat is the best GUI download manager available ? Looking for something like Getright03:47
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vgehttp://kubuntu.pastebin.com/514618 <-- what does this mean??03:48
naliothubotu: tell vge about azureus03:48
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bigron1just saying Hi, newbie at work.03:53
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SkrotFFSWhere is the grub config localted?03:59
SkrotFFSlocated*03:59
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naliothSkrotFFS: /boot/grub/menu.lst04:01
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nlindbladgood afternoon04:03
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vgewhy cant eclipse and azureus be installed at the same time??04:09
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_lucahi all. is there a way to make your webcam working with Kopete??04:31
redguy_luca: not sure, but propably not04:32
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mipsI need some partitioning suggestions. I have 2x160GB drives, I need to install Linux&Windows. I seperate partions for home and a FAT32 transfer area. How would you do it ?04:33
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_luca_mips: i would clean all, then install simply FAT32 instead of NTFS04:34
_lucaso... 1 HD to Linux, 1 to Windows and both happy :)04:35
mipsluca: thats the plan but how would you guys structure the drives/partitions04:35
naliothmips: well, windows + fat32 creates some serious fragmentation, so i'd keep the windows partitions >10gb each04:36
mipsluca: that is my current setup. I do not need to give win a entire 60gb drive as I very seldom boot into win, so a 20gb win partition is fine04:36
mipsnalioth: agreed on the fat32 thing.04:36
_lucauhm, first you have to install windows on one HD, then with linux you will surely have a swap partition roughly double the size of your ram04:36
naliothmips: how much ram do you have?04:37
jjessegrub will handle things correcetly if you install it on the mbr is what i've found04:37
mipsnalioth: 1GB04:37
jjesseif you have to do a repair of your win side it will overwrite the mbr :(04:37
naliothmips: then make a 768mb swap04:37
SkrotFFSHow do I update grub after adding something?04:37
_lucaand about the other partitions, well if you plan to have more than 1 user it's a good idea to make a big home partition04:37
_lucaSkrotFFS: read www.ubuntuguide.org :) i don't remember just now but surely it's explained there04:38
SkrotFFSthanks04:39
mipsDrive2: Home Partition, Swap partition, NTFS swap partition04:39
nalioth!ubuntuguide04:39
ubotusomebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead04:39
mipsDrive1: 20gb Win, 60gb Kubuntu, 80gb fat32 no mans land04:40
naliothlusus: please don't advise that any more04:40
_lucahome the biggest, swap double size your ram, ntfs 10 GB but I made it fat32 so it could be read/write04:40
nalioth_luca:  please don't advise that any more04:40
mipsHow does that sound ? I just wish Windows could read linux file systems, are there drivers maybe ?04:40
_lucanalioth: pardon04:41
naliothmips: there are, but do you really want windows able to access your linux fs?04:41
_lucamips: you find easiliy some programs on the internet that allow you to read ext2 ext3 from windows04:41
mipsnalioth: I would only require read access from Win then I could ditch all the extra FAT32 partitions04:42
vgearrgh, how i set that when i type "abc" in the console it starts program located in /home/abc/programname ?04:42
mipsluca:how bout reiserfs ?04:42
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naliothmips: read only or read-write  ext2fs.sourceforge.net04:42
mips_luca: how bout reiserfs from Win ?04:42
naliothmips: reiser is for high performance server environments04:43
naliothmips: there is no access stuff for reiser from win04:43
mipsWhich file system would you guys recommend ext3 or reiserfs ?04:43
naliothext304:43
_lucamips: reiserfs is IMHO not suitable for large disk space, it is only for little spaces04:43
mipsMaybe I should just leave a 20GB partition for BSD which I want to try out04:43
vgeill spam :(04:43
vgearrgh, how i set that when i type "abc" in the console it starts program located in /home/abc/programname ?04:44
_lucavge.... hmmm04:44
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vgeall installed programs do it, but how i manually configure it?04:44
mipsThanks, then I'll stick with ext304:45
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_lucai think there is a path to add in some file :) i'm too newbie for this04:45
naliothvge: edit your $PATH04:45
vgehow04:45
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naliothvge: if you go to google and type "edit $PATH" you'll have more of the same answer than you can swim in04:46
juddAnyone see security.ubuntu.com connecting and sending data very slowly for apt updates?04:46
cryptopiayes, very slooooow04:47
juddAny mirrors?  Recommended changes?04:47
cryptopia9-11kB/s here -- don't know of any04:48
tictriccups says: client-error-charset-not-supported04:48
judd17.6kB/s here.   Blah.04:48
robotgeekjudd: yes, that happened to me too04:48
cryptopiamaybe everybody is downloading the new kernel ;-)04:48
kkathmanjudd yes, it eventually kicks through tho04:48
juddJust when I need the kernel source.04:48
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tictrichell, why does it not like utf-8?04:49
judd2.6.12-10 is the latest?04:49
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blutrauschhi04:49
cryptopiahi blutrausch04:49
juddNothing "kicking through" here. :(04:49
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vgenalioth: ya, i noticed, ty04:49
blutrauschare here also germans?04:49
nalioth!de04:49
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de04:49
blutrauschthanks04:50
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mipsO well, here goes backup data, delete ubuntu, install kubuntu......04:50
cryptopiadoes anyone have trouble with the kde print system not working? This happened after by kde 3.5 upgrade on 2 systems. CUPS works fine.04:51
juddI'm still back on 3.4.304:52
tictricmy local usb printer works fine. but I don't get that damn ipp printer to work04:52
cryptopiakprinter dialog just hands for me04:53
cryptopiaexcuse me -- *hangs* for me04:53
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kokurya-kaihi05:01
kokurya-kaiis there a possibilty to block ip's via consol?05:01
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naliothkokurya-kai: block them for what?05:02
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ilba7rany one know why when i try new login i get a messed up screen05:02
SkrotFFSHi. Is there a "unstable" version of kubuntu, like there is with debian?05:02
kokurya-kaithaqt the ip isn't allowed to connect any longer in a dc network.... some guy's are to dumb for such sharenetworks ;)05:02
juddSkrot:  That would be Dapper Drake.05:03
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naliothSkrotFFS: yes, but it's not recommended for production machines05:03
naliothkokurya-kai: http://accs-net.com/hosts/what_is_hosts.html05:03
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kokurya-kaithx05:03
SkrotFFSnalioth: Okay. Do you know which kernel versions are avalible for it (as in linux-image) and which alsa?05:03
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naliothSkrotFFS: you can find out all you want at packages.ubuntu.com05:05
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SkrotFFSnalioth: yeah, I found it. Thanks :)05:05
juddkokurya: I don't think that's the link you want.05:05
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ilba7rkokurya-kai, did you try setting it up in firestarter05:09
DingoManhi alk05:09
DingoMan*all05:09
kokurya-kaiilba7r: just downloaded it thx05:09
ilba7r:)05:09
DingoMananybody know where to download alsaconfig?05:09
juddIs there an apt-spy for Ubuntu?05:10
naliothilba7r: you can block individual IPs with a hosts file05:10
naliothjudd: wht is that?05:10
DingoManor where is configuration file of alsa system?05:10
ilba7rnalioth, firestarter is easier for me05:11
juddnalioth: it finds the fastest mirrors for your network.05:11
nalioth!info apt-spy05:11
ubotuapt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-13 (breezy), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 180 kB05:11
ilba7rnalioth, do you know what might cause a messy login screen when i try newlogin from gnome05:11
naliothjudd: there ya go, it's in universe05:11
juddnalioth: duh.. groovey.. thanks.05:11
naliothilba7r: how powerful is your hardware (video)05:12
ilba7rati 960005:12
naliothilba7r: got a lot of vram on that?05:12
ilba7rcould it be because of the fglrx drivers05:12
ilba7r6405:12
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naliothilba7r: i have no idea, i am not familiar with ati performance05:13
ilba7rnalioth, on my desktop i have a shared 32mb and it works fine not on my notebook though05:13
naliothilba7r: again, i know nothing about ati performance.05:14
ilba7rwas wondering if it is a gdm conf problem. ps desktop is an ati too05:14
ilba7rok thanx for your help05:14
tictricDingoMan: there's alsa-utils package05:14
tictricgot alsamixer, but what do you want to configure?05:15
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visik7what's happen to security ?05:16
juddvisik7: security.ubuntu.com is really slow.05:16
juddvisik7: try running apt-spy to get mirrors close to you.05:16
visik7of security ?05:17
visik7is there a list ?05:17
nalioththere are 3 large files being offered by security today, that is why it's slow05:17
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SkrotFFSdapper uses kde 3.5, right?05:17
tictricit's not only slow, its hanging05:17
DingoMantictric: thx - but its not there - installed and still cannot up alsaconfig...05:18
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naliothdapper uses 3.5 yes05:19
tictricDingoMan: I don't think there's something like alsaconfig05:19
tictricthere's alsactl and alsamixer05:19
DingoManyes - but how to change default soundcard for system?05:20
DingoManor disable one?05:20
tictricDingoMan: you got one onboard soundcard and bought an additional pci card?05:21
naliothubotu: tell DingoMan about sound05:21
DingoMani have sb5.1 and onboard soundcard - and i want to make onboard one the default for system05:22
tictricIt would have been easier to just disable the onboard soundcard :-)05:23
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DingoManbut sb doiesnt have optical output which i need...05:23
tictricwell, that stuff works with slots you can enable and disable but I'll have a look if I can remember that stuff05:24
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SkrotFFSTrying to dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper here, and I get "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/kontact/multisynk.desktop', which is also in package kontact", how do I force it to overwrite it?05:26
SkrotFFS(apt-get -f install did not work)05:26
dutchieevening all ... is there an IM protocol supported in kubuntu that allows webcam through ?05:26
naliothSkrotFFS: using 'force' breaks things (sometimes)05:26
naliothSkrotFFS: dpkg --help-force05:27
SkrotFFSnalioth: Overwriting a .desktop isn't that big a deal05:27
naliothSkrotFFS: my responsibility here is to advise folks. you may do as you wish with the advice05:27
SkrotFFSnalioth: I know, I've been through this kind of stuff before, I just don't remember how to make it overwrite the file :)05:28
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naliothSkrotFFS: which is why i gave you the answer05:28
SkrotFFSnalioth: indeed :)05:28
naliothSkrotFFS: and the answer is not --force-all05:28
SkrotFFS--force-overwrite05:28
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SkrotFFSThere we go05:29
SkrotFFSThanks :)05:29
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TjaFssure you do, and im going applepicking with scoobiedoo SkrotFFS05:30
SkrotFFSTjaFs ;)05:30
SkrotFFSIt's scooby doo btw05:30
tictricDingoMan: http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ02605:32
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tictricDingoMan: next time you search yourself :-)05:32
dutchieis there an IM program on ubuntu that allows webcam streaming ?05:33
dutchieI can do it with Yahoo and MSN on windows ...05:33
dutchiewould be nice to be able to do the same in kde/ubuntu05:33
DingoMantictric: tnx v. much :)05:34
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tictricjudd: how do you configure apt-spy for kubuntu?05:41
kevman`I installed Kubuntu on my iMac (its 333Mhz G3). But only some sound works; Kaffeine refuses to run, but Xine is happy. Any ideas?05:42
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naliothubotu: tell kevman` about sound05:44
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robotgeekkevman`: install kaffeine-xine05:44
kevman`Too late.05:44
kevman`Doesn't work.05:44
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robotgeekkevman`: did you select the engine as xine in kaffeine?05:46
kevman`Only selections is Kaffeiene and Gstreamer05:46
kevman`I'm pretty sure the kaffiene selection is the right one, though.05:47
robotgeekkevman`: hmm, interesting05:47
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kevman`Maybe Ubuntu wil have better luck with this thing. Doesn't seem to detect the modem either.05:49
robotgeekkevman`: or insall vlc05:49
kevman`Well, I kinda want something that is embedded into the browser...05:50
laser_tkI install Firefox 1.5, and it says:05:51
laser_tk/opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 19227 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}05:51
robotgeekkevman`: mozilla-plugin-vlc05:51
kevman`I just saw that.05:52
robotgeeklaser_tk: hmm, what architecture?05:52
laser_tk38605:52
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larsivihei SkrotFFS ;)05:57
laser_tk:P05:57
SkrotFFSHoi larsivi :)05:57
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robotgeeklaser_tk: no sure, i don't run ffox 1.5 myself05:59
DaSkreechIs kubuntu getting the one button upgrade as well? or is that up to m0ns00n?06:00
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vvatsahey does any one know what the story is with get firefox 1.5 in apt?06:04
naliothvvatsa: there is none yet in apt06:04
DaSkreechvvatsa: It's in Dapper?06:05
vvatsaRight, I guess I can wait06:05
vvatsathanks guys06:05
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DaSkreechsure06:06
seashell11watsa: it won't ever be in apt for breezy, if you google a little you should find a page that tells you why, I can't remember where it was06:06
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seashell11vvatsa: shoot got the name wrong06:06
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vvatsaseashell11: :) thanks, I am in no hurry, I can wait. I use konq. most of the time any way, just use firefox for gmail06:07
DaSkreechEssentially It would fix Firefox but break a lot of other things06:07
andrzejsomebody have a sources.list from ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic??06:07
DaSkreechvvatsa: You too? :)06:07
seashell11andrzej: yea i have a sources.list from source-o-matic06:08
vvatsaDaSkreech:, me what now?06:08
andrzejhow j get a GPG key06:08
DaSkreechbasically use Firefox for Gmail06:09
andrzejfor all repo06:09
vvatsaDaSkreech: well ya, I like fancy gmail interface.06:09
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kkathmanactually, the best way to get ffox1.5 is to download from the site to your own $HOME, untar, then symlink to firefox in /usr/bin after backing the original up. Very simple and easy (wont keep your other installed stuff, but it works).06:10
robotgeekandrzej: the gpg keys will be listed in your sources.list generated, if they provide one06:11
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weedarSo why does installing wine remove winesetuptk and vice versa? :)06:14
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vvatsaweedar: I am guessing that winesetupgtk has its own wine binary linked with gtk code, so you can't have two wine bins.06:15
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weedarvvatsa, yes that is a good assumption. Thanks :)06:15
vvatsaweedar: no prob.06:16
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tobyDoes anyone have a repository that contains a package for the new Amarok 1.3.8?06:17
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jpatricktoby: go to kubuntu.org06:19
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vvatsabye guys06:22
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tobyjpatrick: I'm puzzled by that because whilst they say they have 1.3.8, following the links leads me to 1.3.7 at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php06:22
tobyI can't see 1.3.8 anywhere.06:22
jpatricktoby: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.8.php06:22
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trappist1.3.8?!06:25
tobyjpatrick: Well, I'll be... How did I miss that? I was clicking the "amarok 1.3.8" link not the "read more" link.06:26
tobyThanks!06:26
SkrotFFSIs ~/.Xmodmap run every time I boot/login?06:26
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jpatricktoby: no problem06:28
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tobySkrotFFS: I don't have that file06:30
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SkrotFFStoby: okay06:31
trappistStarKruz1: no, you'd have to add it to a .bashrc or similar06:31
robotgeekSkrotFFS: maybe add to your session startup06:32
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SkrotFFSrobotgeek: good idea06:33
SkrotFFSrobotgeek: does kdm run bashrc?06:33
robotgeekSkrotFFS: no06:33
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SkrotFFSokay, which file do I need to put it in then?06:33
robotgeekSkrotFFS: there should be an option in kcontrol, i'm not on kde at the moment. just look for startup programs06:34
SkrotFFSokay06:34
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trappistSkrotFFS: if you're using kde make a script that sources it in your ~/.kde/Autostart06:35
SkrotFFStrappist: thanks06:36
trappistdon't forget to chmod +x it06:37
trappistoh I'm in #kubuntu, of course you're using kde :)06:38
robotgeektrappist: always has me confused06:39
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weedarIs it possible to write to an ntfs partition with breezy?06:45
naliothweedar: not safely, no.06:45
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weedarNalioth, I need to delete some files on a windows partition to get enough free space to reinstall XP (again..). Would you say it is safe enough to do so without hurting the other data on the partition?06:46
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naliothweedar: you'll need to do some research on what happens when you diddle with ntfs from linux06:47
naliothweedar: you may end up with no ntfs partition at all06:47
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weedarnalioth, I see.. It's very annoying, as the only reason I'm going to so much trouble is because I need to run a program to transfer a phonebook to a cellular phone (and it doesn't run in wine)06:48
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lususif i wanted to set yaboot to automatically boot linux.. do i remove the image area of the config file?06:53
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trappistweedar: the only safe solution I know of to write to ntfs from linux is 'captive'06:56
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naliothtrappist: and that is not quite "safe"06:56
weedartrappist, funny you should mention that, I'm reading up about it as we speak :)06:56
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JakubSyet another attempt to make my laptop suspend and resume ... failed07:01
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weedarnalioth, good call on captive not beeing safe. It took 2 seconds of deleting before something bad happened :(07:07
naliothweedar: ok then.07:07
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RickKnightI need help installing Unreal Tournament on Kubuntu-5.10. Installer can't see cdrom driv.07:17
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kmonhi07:19
trappistRickKnight: there's a faq entry on that, lemme see if I can find it07:19
kmonI've recently installed flight cd3, but apparently my kubuntu installation is using gstreamer0.8. I thought every app was now using 0.1007:20
trappistRickKnight: export SETUP_CDROM=/path/to/cdrom07:20
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kmonI've recently installed flight cd3, but apparently my kubuntu installation is using gstreamer0.8. I thought every app was now using 0.1007:24
RickKnighttrappist: I've tried the SETUP_CDROM thing. It made no difference.07:25
RickKnightI've also looked in the mounted CD directory and I do have joliet support and I can read all the files.07:25
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RickKnight#export SETUP_CDROM=/media/cdrom0, also /mnt/cdrom and even /dev/cdrom. All mount points.07:27
RickKnightOne FAQ suggested turning off automount. How is that done in kubuntu?07:28
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trappistubuntu doesn't use supermount, thank god, but it's conceivable that pmount could be screwing you up07:28
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phlewisgreetings07:31
phlewisI'm new to Kubuntu07:31
phlewisOther distros I've used mounted the windows share and my usb external hard drive07:32
phlewisKubuntu doesn't seem to.07:32
larsivimy Kubuntu mount my usb disk07:32
phlewisHow do I get Kubuntu to show the Windows partition and usb external hard drive?07:33
RickKnighttrappist: I assume I can stop pmount fairly easilly? Kill -9 ?07:33
phlewisit's dual boot kubuntu and XP07:33
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trappistRickKnight: kill -9 should generally be reserved as a last resort.  I don't really know how pmount works.  I dunno if there's a process to kill.  you might just try manually umounting and remounting the drive.07:34
trappistphlewis: generally it will see your windows partition(s) and add entries to /etc/fstab during the install, and plugging in a usb storage device should cause it to be automounted07:35
RickKnighttrappist: Tried unmounting and remounting. Didn't help.07:35
phlewisI't not showing anything in /mnt07:36
trappistRickKnight: this is where I bust out strace, as in strace -fF -e trace=file -o my_debug_file ./ut_installer.sh07:36
trappistphlewis: look in /media07:36
trappistphlewis: or run 'mount' to see what's mounted07:36
phlewis/dev/sda4 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)07:37
phlewisproc on /proc type proc (rw)07:37
RickKnighttrappist: I'll try the strace. I allways forget that...07:37
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phlewissysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)07:37
phlewisdevpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)07:37
phlewistmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)07:37
phlewisusbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)07:37
phlewistmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)07:37
phlewistmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)07:37
robotgeekphlewis: don't paste in here07:38
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naliothblah07:38
JoeBlowim using ubuntu right now, what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, is it just graphical, or more?`07:38
phlewistrappist:/media shows only cdrom cdrom007:38
naliothphlewis: when one enters a irc channel there is a /topic usually. it is good to read the /topic for pertinent information07:38
naliothphlewis: such as "please don't paste in the channel" in this instance07:38
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trappistRickKnight: also, md5sum /dev/yourcdromdevice is a decent way to check for a bad cd07:46
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JoeBlowseveas how do i switch back to gnome07:50
BlippeJoeBlow, do you have ubuntu-desktop left on your machine?07:51
JoeBlowBlippe, im installing kde right now, or turning it on rather, i just wanna know how to switch back if i need to07:51
JoeBlowBlippe, kde is setting up right now07:52
BlippeJoeblow, just leave ubuntu-desktop on your machine, and if you wanna go back to gnome, you just choose gnome when you login.07:52
RickKnighttrappist: Using strace and tail -f I see this message when the installer tries to access the CD. 561   access("/media/cdrom0/UTLocalized", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)07:53
BlippeIf you decide to totally ditch kde just runt "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and everything will be back to normal!07:53
RickKnighttrappist: the file "UTLocalized" does not exist.07:53
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JoeBlowBlippe, ok i did the set up after install, how do I turn on kde07:53
robotgeekJoeBlow: log out, and choose kde from sessions07:54
Blippelogout, and login again! Or for the best effect, restart (NOT needed)07:54
robotgeekBlippe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm doesn't remove kde :)07:54
trappistRickKnight: strace is always going to show a lot of file-not-found stuff for things that don't really matter.  I have no idea if that file matters.  Oh, one other thing - if you have the goty cd you're using the goty installer, and if not, not... right?07:54
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Blipperobotgeek, no, but it will make it possible to restart and shutdown from inside gnome again!07:55
RickKnighttrappist: good question. I don't know if I have the goty CD. How can I tell?07:55
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trappistRickKnight: I don't know - presumably by looking at the label :)07:55
trappistRickKnight: might try downloading the goty installer and seeing if that works07:55
robotgeekBlippe: you can use kdm, and gnome will still have the same features.07:55
robotgeekBlippe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm only lets you choose default desktop manager07:56
RickKnighttrappist: that's the installer I have. I'm looking for a different installer now.07:56
Blipperobotgeek, last time i tried, I had to logout to be able to turn off the computer.07:56
robotgeekBlippe: from kde, yes. but from gnome?07:56
Blippewhen using kdm...07:57
robotgeekBlippe: kdm != kde07:57
Blipperobotgeek, i never said so!07:58
robotgeekBlippe: sorry07:58
robotgeeki'm just too sleepy07:58
Blippeactually first time i showed the differences between gnome and kde for a friend, first thing he saw, was that it was impossible to turn of kde without loggin out. (i used gdm that time)08:00
robotgeeki dunno why the inconsitency08:01
Blippeit is a war out there! :D08:02
robotgeekheh, i'm using xubuntu right now. :)08:02
Blippelast time i did, it crashed and gnome started... I'm gonna wait until dapper (or the slimcd/ide adapter starts working for the other comp)08:03
Blippexfce does have shutdown and restart with gdm, right?08:05
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robotgeeki guess so08:06
robotgeekbut it asks for user password :)08:06
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Blippeahuman01, implementing that at home would probably force my gf to murder...08:08
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Blippedamn, replace ahu* with "ah, "08:08
dalianyone familiar with asusfan?08:08
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nlindbladcan you transplant beards?08:13
naliothnlindblad: i suspect you need #hairclubformen08:13
skberaHello everyone...08:14
nlindbladnalioth: is that a real channel or are you just making fun of me?08:14
naliothnlindblad: this is not a barber shop08:14
skberaI have question for you.08:14
Blippeyay!08:14
skberaIs there any way to kill a process with "Disk sleep" status?08:15
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Slaphappyi cant play mp3 in xmms08:36
Slaphappywhat should i install more08:36
Slaphappyi can listen to radio music but not mp308:36
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jpatrickSlaphappy: install "gstreamer0.8-mad" from universe08:38
Slaphappyahh thanx08:38
naliothubotu: tell Slaphappy about multimedia08:38
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ztonzyhey apokryphos08:41
ztonzyhey all :)08:41
ztonzya Question: if I get some sort of /lib/tls ... error when I log out from Kubuntu, using KDE 3.5...what kind of error is that ?08:42
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tech9inerhmmm.. moin me ' k brudderzzz' ...08:46
tech9inerso.. methinks xine is bestes engine for amarok no?08:46
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Tm_Ttech9iner: I use gstreamer08:53
Tm_Tbut xine works too08:54
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tech9inerty 4 input chum.. but alas.. ive never ever had good stable luck w gstreamer ANYthang.. so i stick w xine here mate.. ;] ] 08:54
jpatrickTm_T: xine keeps crashing here08:54
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Tm_Tjpatrick: heh, dapper?08:55
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jpatrickTm_T: breezy08:57
daliany good programs for GPU and CPU fan control?08:57
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JohnFlux_you can control your GPU fans?08:57
SkrotFFSHi. Where do I change the background-image in konqueror (in filebrowser-mode)? There should be a .css file or something similar, I just need to know where it is, or what it's called :)08:58
dalijohnflux, with asusfan yes but it doesn't work anymore08:58
daliit doesn't find a monitoring chip anymore08:59
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daliand I don't know how to fix it09:01
Tm_Tjpatrick: ;)09:03
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jpatricknlindblad: oKay09:11
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fernandohello09:13
robotgeekhey fernando09:13
fernandohow are you?09:13
fernandoalgun latino09:13
fernandojejeje09:13
robotgeek!es09:14
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.09:14
dark_suicfernando, #kubuntu-es for spanish ;)09:14
fernandook09:14
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wedgeVhi, i'm running amarok 1.3.8, and the collection is always empty... it says "0 Track 633 Artists" on the bottom09:15
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dark_suicO__o09:15
dark_suicquite weird, haven't tried 1.3.8 yet, but was going to try more or less in a minutes :P09:15
dark_suicif you don't mind waiting a bit09:15
wedgeVshure09:16
dark_suicwell, just installed it but all seems fine...09:17
trappistwedgeV: upgrade or new install?09:17
dark_suic2'5k tracks and about 300 artist...09:17
robotgeekdark_suic: how does quodlibet measure up?09:17
wedgeVnew install09:18
dark_suicO__o09:18
wedgeVbut i had the same problem with 1.3.8 on opensuse09:18
dark_suicwhat u asking for, robotgeek ???? i haven'tt understood you...09:18
robotgeekdark_suic:as an alternative to amarok, seems to take a lot less juice09:18
dark_suicO__o09:19
robotgeekdark_suic: search songs with regexes :)09:19
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wedgeVseems like a sqlite problem09:19
wedgeVhttp://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,57/func,view/id,6918/catid,8/limit,6/limitstart,6/09:19
dark_suicrobotgeek, i don't have problems with it :P09:19
dark_suici do like amarok a lot, even it's collection feature :P09:19
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trappistmine's 60% done building the collection with sqlite backend.  I'll let you know how it goes.09:21
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wedgeVit finishes updating the collection, but it is empty :(09:22
wedgeVi'm trying to setup postgres now09:22
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xstHow do I install new dictionaries in oowriter2? I have tried to select the "install new dictionaries" wizard but nothing happens. What to do?09:23
dark_suicwedgeV, your collection is all mp3?09:23
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robotgeekyeah, on faster machines amarok is a great choice, even on slower machines09:23
trappistwedgeV: same here.09:23
dark_suicwedgeV, trappist theproblem if your collections are mp3 is not on amarok09:24
dark_suicis probably that you need additional packages to play mp3...09:24
dark_suic(k3b-mp3 is needed in amarok for playing mp3 with xine)09:24
robotgeekgstreamer-mad with gstreamer-engine also works09:25
trappistdark_suic: I'm all mp3'ed up here.  apparently it's a sqlite issue.09:25
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dark_suictrappist, with mp3, you need k3b-mp3 to play mp309:25
PupenoLHello, installing linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 (2.6.12-10.26) the process halted and I can't do anything but dpkg --configure -a which continues to freeze, any ideas ?09:25
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wedgeVdark_suic: mp3 and ogg09:25
dark_suicdon't know if the problem is that, but with mp3 you need that package09:26
dark_suicwedgeV, try to add from konqueror by drag and drop09:26
trappisttrying again with mysql backend09:26
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Slaphappy^hi... i have installed dapper om my pc but i can't get swedish letters to work.. i have changed the keyboarlayout but it's still the same thing09:28
Slaphappy^is this a bug?09:28
halibutHi, I started installing Kubuntu64, I got to the part where it asks you to remove the cd and reboot, then it rebooted and hung with loads of text on the screen, then I rebooted it (ctrl alt del, and I got all the term stuff), Then it said that the install might be corrupt, then it started doing lots of stuff, there is loads of white lines of text comming up on the screen, millions and millions of lines, it has been going for abou09:29
halibutt 20 minutes so fast that I cannot read it, am I screwed?09:29
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halibutThere is a number increasing on the side, it is on 94709:30
halibutwhat on earth is this? I thought kubuntu was supposed to be user friendly and really easy to install09:31
halibut:(09:31
trappisthalibut: it sounds like something went very wrong during the install.  you're not seeing what you're supposed to see, for sure.09:31
halibuttrappist, should I just hold down the off button?09:32
halibuttrappist, what on earth is it doing?09:32
halibutIt is on number 1000 now09:33
halibutIs it safe to leave it?09:33
trappisthalibut: I have no idea.  sounds like not to much will be lost of you go for a reinstall.09:33
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angasulehmm, konqueror has decided to display websites as prettily as if it were lynx, what got borked, any ideas?09:34
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halibutIt won't let me turn it off, what do I do?!09:39
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seashell11halibut: what wont let you turn what off?09:40
seashell11halibut?09:42
halibutseashell11, read up09:42
seashell11woah! that don't sound to good, is it still counting up?09:44
seashell11:-S09:44
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HeadUp`does someone can hrlp me for superkaramba10:11
HeadUp`?10:11
chrishows flight 3? anyone using it yet?10:12
trappistwedgeV: works find with a mysql backend10:14
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aljoschahey10:22
aljoscha#kubuntu-nl10:22
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fatejudgerif I swap this hard drive into another computer, is Kubuntu going to freak out?10:23
ilba7rdepend. It might not find some devices fatejudger10:25
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SkrotFFSIs there a shortcut to launch katapult?10:30
lordjoeI think it is alt-space by default, not sure how to change it10:32
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PupenoLI can't install any kernel, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-386 or 686 just hangs consuming lots of resources on Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.26) ..., can anybody help me ?10:34
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tictricthunderbird's been updated to 1.5 in dapper but can't use it 'cause according package for enigmail's still missing10:37
tictricshame :)10:37
HeadUp`<<<<<<<<<<< et.merc pm10:37
tictricand todays apt-get update takes about 45minutes at 125kB/s10:38
tictrics/update/upgrade/10:39
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naliothtictric: enigmail broke on my breezy with the last t-bird updte10:43
HeadUp`<<<<<<<<<<< et.merc pm10:43
tictricdid it upgrade to 1.5 there too? cause for 1.5 there's a different enigmail version10:44
tictricbut don't upgrade enigmail with the t-bird updater because it will break it too.10:44
tictricthere's some stuff adapted for k(ubuntu) with that extension that breaks normal extension install10:45
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Miashuh. whats this: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `hplip' in statusoverride file?10:46
tictrichttp://hugin.sourceforge.net/ <-- that's what I've been lookin for ages :-)10:46
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naliothtictric: no, there was a security update for tbird in breezy and after that, my enigmail broke10:49
tictricoh, I'll have to check that out then when I swap the harddrive next time10:50
_grigoryis there some special app i should use to download pics from digital camera?10:51
_grigoryopened it in konqueror10:51
_grigoryworks damn slow10:51
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_grigorycant read files, gives me errors all the time10:51
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koshhmm for the digital camera I have I just plug it in and it works10:52
koshnothing special to read it at all10:52
_grigorystrange...10:52
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koshnot very strange10:52
koshmost of the cameras don't follow the usb mass storage spec10:52
_grigorywindows has no problems reading it, but here, its a nightmare10:52
jorikwhat program can i use to back up my dvd's ?10:52
koshand so they are harder to work with10:52
koshk3b probably10:53
koshit can burn dvds10:53
hubbadubok guys i have a minor problem with firefox that i would appreciate some advice on10:53
jorikok ill try that10:53
JakubS_grigory: digikam is good for camera10:53
lordjoe_grigory: I assume the camera is mounted as a usb removable storage device... if you have problems copying files from command line as well then you know it cannot be konqueror's fault10:53
kosh_grigory: under windows did you have to install any software at all to work with the camera or did you just plug it in and it instantly worked?10:53
hubbadubthere are 2 instances in firefox where i get a good 3-5 seconds of lag/freeze10:53
hubbadub1st is visiting any EBay site. and the 2nd is anytime i go to download something10:54
koshhubbadub: how fast is your cpu?10:54
hubbadubit doesnt freeze the entire pc, just firefox, and like i said, just 3-5 seconds, so not major, just irritating10:54
_grigoryumm... no, i just plugged it in, windows installed some drivers10:54
hubbadub2.8 P410:54
hubbadubthis is a new problem10:54
_grigoryand then it just worked as a storage device10:54
hubbadubonly within the last 2 weeks has this occured10:54
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koshhubbadub: which version of firefox? do you have any extensions installed for it?10:55
kosh_grigory: that doesn't mean it relaly is a storage device, it could just be pretending10:55
_grigoryok, so it spend 10 mins copying content from the camera, find there two folders, could not read their content(~300 pics) and two text files, could not copy them either10:55
hubbadubcould a re-install fix the issue? im using 1.5.............and I have a ton of extensions lol, around 2210:55
_grigoryok, ill try digikam10:56
hubbadubhowever, i dont think the extensions are the issue UNLESS it was an update to one of the extensions that caused it10:56
hubbadubbecause ive used this combination of extensions together for a while10:56
kosh_grigory: hook your camera in and start a file copy and then type dmesg at a console window and see if you are getting any errors10:56
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_grigoryok, sec10:56
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koshhubbadub: I just have firefox 1.0.7 and I can't replicate that issue and I have no extensions installed for it at all10:57
nlindbladweee10:57
nlindblad14.4GiB Kubuntu seeded10:57
hubbadubif i re-install firefox using say automatix, is there away to save all my extensions?10:57
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HeadUp`et.merc........... NOW  FFSSS10:58
ilba7rhubbadub, running firefox here and i think the extension is the reason. at least it is on my install10:58
_grigoryyeah, i still got "could not read / " error10:58
hubbadubhmm it maybe worth re-installing the extensions 1 by 1 to pinpoint the problem then eh10:59
_grigorymeanwhile digikam downloaded and installed10:59
fabianexit10:59
ilba7ri have faster firefox and it actually made firefox slower :)10:59
hubbadubthats gonna take a bit, but i figure since i get all this shit for free, the least i can do is contribute some bug reports11:00
jouni__mhi kubuntu-live flight2 running here well  :) have not downloaded flight3 yet.11:00
_grigorykosh: digikam isnt working either11:01
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_grigoryohh11:01
_grigoryno11:01
_grigoryworking11:01
NevidShi guys!11:01
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NevidSI have Ubuntu with KDE-desktop. How I can change my login screen? Now I use the Human default theme, and I would like to change in something more KDE-Like"!11:03
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ilba7rNevidS, do you have gdm running? or kdm?11:05
NevidShow can i konw it?11:05
ilba7rdid you install kdm11:05
ilba7ri guess the human default mean you are running gdm11:06
ilba7rin a terminal type which kdm11:06
NevidSok, on synaptic I see that kdm it was installated.11:06
ilba7rok you can type in a terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm11:07
NevidS /usr/bin/kdm11:07
ilba7rand select it as your display manager. This will give you what you want11:07
NevidSilba7r: ok now I try11:07
ilba7runless you prefer gdm11:08
ilba7rfor gdm to see what is available type in a terminal sudo gdmsetup11:08
NevidSok I do dpkg-reconfigure kdm I config kdm11:10
NevidSnow I try to restart the session11:10
ilba7ryou need to restart kdm first11:10
ilba7rsudo /etc/init.d/start kdm11:10
NevidSwhy?11:11
ilba7rfor you are still running gdm11:11
ilba7rtry it if it does not work automatically than11:11
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ilba7rreboot is the easiest11:11
vgecan somebody recommend good ftp cliend thats not kbear?11:11
NevidSok, I'm going to do sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm11:12
NevidSbefore11:12
kavithow does one reconfigure alsa? alsaconf isnt installed on (k)ubuntu11:12
NevidSilba7r: mmm... after sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm the terminal said me:   sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm11:13
NevidScommand not found11:13
ilba7rnevids log out and in again11:13
NevidSok11:13
ilba7rsee if it is already running11:13
tictricNevidS: just hit <ctrl><alt><back> that'll do it11:13
kavitNevidS: try /etc/init.d/kdm start11:14
tictricwell, that's the long way then11:14
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tictricNevidS: and?11:14
NevidSok, I have restart and nothing is change!11:15
NevidSthe Human theme login it apperas11:15
ilba7rnevids i think you need to reboot11:15
ilba7rkavit had the right command line though11:15
kavitNevidS: try /etc/init.d/kdm start11:15
ilba7rbut i think you need to stop gdm first11:15
ilba7rit might be still running11:15
NevidSkavit: I have allready do it11:16
NevidSoh!11:16
kavitNevidS: hang on a minute11:16
ilba7rNevidS, i gave you an incorrect command it is /etc/init.d/kdm start11:16
ilba7ras kavit said11:16
NevidSthis time termianl said: Starting K Display Manager: kdm.11:17
ilba7rnevids try stop gdm than11:17
ilba7r/etc/init.d/gdm stop11:17
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ilba7rjust in case it is still running11:17
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NevidSok, termail say * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...   * GNOME Display Manager not running11:18
ilba7rnevid ok try restarting x now. logout and in again11:19
tech9inerhonestly chapz.. perhaps on me oldest most obsolete lappys.. i.e.: panasonic toughbooks Pll 266/64 or 128ram that maybe unbuntu running xfce4 or fluxbox would be best over loading up even lean version of kubuntu eh?.. any/all feedback appreciated muchly..11:19
NevidSI try to restart the session or I have to reboot all the machine?11:19
kavitNevidS: type startx at the command line11:19
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wedgeVtrappist: thanks, but i cant get mysql to run here, the mysql server wont start11:20
NevidSkavit: I did it, and now?11:21
ilba7rkavit do you need to type startx after starting the display manager kdm and gdm?11:21
wedgeVilba7r: no11:21
ilba7rthough so wedgeV11:22
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NevidSok, I try to restart the session11:23
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NevidSthe same: that damned Gnome theme it appears11:25
ilba7rNevidS, reboot11:26
NevidSok11:26
ilba7rthe gdm daemon will restart automatically even if you stop it11:26
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ilba7rdid it work NevidS ?11:31
NevidSGood Shot guys!!!!11:32
javbhi, i just installed Kubuntu 5.10 ... and i uncommented some repositories in sources.list ... but i cant find firefox 1.5 on the updates...11:32
ilba7rgreat11:32
NevidS:-D11:32
ilba7rjavb firefox 1.5 is not in breezy repos11:32
naliothjavb: you'll be looking for a long time (or until dapper releases)11:32
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javbis there any extra resopsitorie that i have to add? im new using kubuntu...11:32
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ilba7r!ff1.511:32
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion11:32
Blippelet's party like it is 1999!11:33
sampanO_O11:33
ilba7rnalioth, truned out to be the fglrx driver. falling back to the default gdmflexiserver works fine11:34
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pcnerd37Hello.  Im resizing my windows partition so that i can dual boot with kubuntu.  What partition should I use, Ext2 or Ext3?11:35
naliothilba7r: cool11:35
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imy_pcnerd37: ext311:35
pcnerd37ok11:35
pcnerd37what is the difference anyway?11:35
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JohnFlux_pcnerd37: ext3 has journalising11:35
JohnFlux_[[ext3] ] 11:35
pcnerd37ah11:36
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naliothpcnerd37: ext2 and 3 are the same except the 3 had journaling11:36
pcnerd37what exactly is journaling?11:36
JohnFlux_that means that if the computer crashes, it doesn't have to spend ages checking the disk11:36
naliothpcnerd37: it takes notes on the state of the drive so if something happens to the power, the data isnt totally lost11:36
JohnFlux_when you boot up again i mean11:36
pcnerd37ah, sounds like a great feature11:37
JohnFlux_indeed11:37
pcnerd37thanks for the help.  Im sure i will be back once i get kubuntu installed for more help11:38
Blippenow it just check every 30th time!11:38
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tictricbesides that I can't use the new kernel because of the unavailability of restricted-modules for my nvidia card flight3 looks fine so far11:49
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cinderhi all!!!11:51
cinderwhy I cannot play mp3 files in amarok or xmms??11:52
crimsunxmms plays them just fine11:52
crimsunw/ amarok, depending on the engine used, you may need to install packages11:53
crimsuni.e., gstreamer0.8-mad11:53
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_roothey11:54
cindercrimsun: ok!!11:54
_rootsomeone who could help me out_11:54
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cinderlets try...11:54
isoyea11:54
iso:p11:55
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m_tadeuhi....what is the "HTTP Cach Cleaner"?11:55
isodudeargh11:56
isodudeah, onto my feets now11:56
isodudenaw, had some problems with my Xserver.11:56
isodudeSeems like amd64-agp is missing..11:56
isodudeshouldn't it be there when installing kernel-2.6.12-10?11:57
isodudeI only have intel-agp in the module tree ://11:57
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isodudeSomeone who has a idea of what I could do to fix this?11:58
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wedgeVseems like the latest installation steps didnt happen here, is there a way to run them now?12:00
wedgeVeg: loopback isnt configured... i dont know what else is missing12:01
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