[12:03] <arafat> never tried azureus, just ktorrent. worked fine for me
[12:03] <Zappa> ktorrent doesnt like me either - it locks up after downloading for a while
[12:04] <arafat> Zappa: hmm... maybe have a look at mldonkey. it supports torrent as well, i think.
[12:05] <Zappa> thanks i will do if i have no luck with azureus
[12:05] <IGNIZ> hi dudes, i'm a newbie and i'm trying to watch a dvd with kaffeine or mplayer...
[12:05] <IGNIZ> zappa what's the problem?
[12:05] <IGNIZ> gzip?
[12:06] <visik7> I got this error every apt-get install something
[12:07] <visik7> ** (process:314): CRITICAL **: egg_desktop_entries_add_group: assertion `egg_desktop_entries_lookup_group (entries, group_name) == NULL' failed
[12:07] <IGNIZ> sudo -r before every apt-get
[12:07] <visik7> sudo -r ?
[12:08] <IGNIZ> can someone help me with kaffeine dvd playback?
[12:08] <IGNIZ> sudo -s
[12:08] <IGNIZ> sorry
[12:08] <kkathman> visik7: that looks like a sudoers file error
[12:08] <visik7> what's wrong with sudo apt-get install something ?
[12:10] <arrinmurr> "sudo -i" is better than "sudo -s"
[12:10] <rysiek> -rwxrwxr-x  1 root staff 26616 2005-05-18 08:33 /usr/bin/passwd
[12:11] <rysiek> yellowdart: the problem was with the /usr/bin/passwd file's perms
[12:11] <rysiek> yellowdart: just to let you know ;)
[12:11] <rysiek> yellowdart: should be -rwsr-xr-x, maybe you'll need it someday
[12:11] <rysiek> gtg, cu all
[12:12] <Elsan_> How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat?
[12:14] <Zappa> aha!
[12:14] <Zappa> azureus working perfectly with jre1.5
[12:14] <Zappa> much more responsive too
[12:15] <Elsan_> Is Azureus a BitTorrent client?
[12:15] <arrinmurr> yes
[12:16] <Elsan_> k thanks
[12:21] <Elsan_> How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat?
[12:22] <Elsan_> How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat? Is there any way?
[12:22] <arrinmurr> Elsan_: try asking in #konversation
[12:23] <Elsan_> Thanks!
[12:33] <Riddell> breezy amarok testers needed: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/amarok-1.3.8 breezy main
[12:35] <Elsan_> Is there any way to make an application not take the default colors set in KDE besides running as root?
[12:44] <Zappa> Riddell: hmm i'll give it a go - i want lyrics working again
[12:56] <kkathman> welcome back tracy_ :)
[12:57] <tracy_> hiya
[12:58] <tracy_> kubuntu hates me! i have mulitverse and universe uncommented in sources.list but it wont fetch packages from either. ive done update, im on the wiki right now, trying to install java. driving me crazy. i did install an old agp nvidia card, though.
[12:59] <kkathman> tracy_:  could you open your /etc/apt/sources.list, copy and paste it to the pastebin at pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[12:59] <kkathman> I'll take a look
[01:00] <tracy_> k
[01:00] <kkathman> tracy_:  also, did you do a sudo apt-get update  after you changed it?
[01:00] <tracy_> yeah, i installed ubuntu as a server only then vi'd the sources list and installed from there
[01:01] <kkathman> but you did do the apt-get update ?
[01:01] <kkathman> thats mandatory after any change to the sources.list
[01:01] <tracy_> yes i had to do the update to install anything
[01:01] <tracy_> i also checked it in the aptitude thing
[01:02] <Zappa> can anyone resolve moodwrod.com
[01:02] <kkathman> tracy_:  no, not to install anything...but anytime you change the sources, you have to do the apt-get update afterward otherwise the changes dont take place
[01:03] <tracy_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7397
[01:05] <kkathman> tracy_:  sources look fine...please do a sudo apt-get update    at your konsole and try your package download again
[01:05] <tracy_> ive done that
[01:05] <tracy_> i just did that
[01:05] <kkathman> what package are you trying to get?
[01:05] <tracy_> E: Couldn't find package java-package
[01:05] <tracy_> tracy@orange:~/download$
[01:05] <tracy_> from the ubuntu wiki
[01:05] <tracy_> restricted formats
[01:05] <tracy_> java
[01:05] <tracy_> heh
[01:06] <tracy_> oh and while im here whats the xorg config command?
[01:07] <bimberi> !xorg
[01:07] <ubotu> it has been said that xorg is to reconfigure your xserver, open a terminal and type "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[01:08] <bimberi> tracy_: java-package is in multiverse, you need to add ' multiverse' to lines 19, 20, 35, 36 of your sources.list
[01:09] <hawking> I have messed with /etc/fstab file and I can't see anything on boot nothing... can someone help me?
[01:09] <tracy_> you mean right fater "universe?"
[01:09] <kkathman> tracy_:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=Java
[01:09] <hawking> /dev/hda6       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro,noatime,data=writeback 0       1
[01:09] <hawking> this is the line
[01:09] <tracy_> hehe after
[01:09] <bimberi> tracy_: yes :)
[01:09] <kkathman> tracy_: scroll down toward the bottom and you'll get the instructions on Java
[01:10] <bimberi> Zappa: no (unknown host)
[01:10] <Elsan_> Is there any way to make apps not use the KDE colors settings besides running as root/sudo?
[01:10] <Zappa> bimberi: okay thanks
[01:10] <bimberi> Zappa: yw :)
[01:12] <Qalimas> Does anyone know of a really good AIM client for KDE?  I'm not interested in Kopete nor Gaim, AIM only support is fine, multi-protocol support isn't needed, help is much appreciated :)
[01:12] <tracy_> kkathman, thats the page i started on
[01:12] <kkathman> Qalimas:  I know of no others but Kopete and Gaim...both support AIM
[01:13] <tracy_> i totally like ubuntu better
[01:13] <kkathman> Qalimas: are you looking for some specific feature?
[01:13] <Qalimas> I've used both, I don't like how Gaim looks in KDE, and Kopete is buggy for me, I know of SIM, but it's too basic and doesn't work as expected
[01:13] <tracy_> maybe its just that i dont have synaptic here
[01:13] <Qalimas> Not really, I want it to look good, support chats, and it would be nice if it could file transfer, nott needed
[01:13] <kkathman> Qalimas: Kopete is much more stable in KDE 3.5
[01:14] <kkathman> a later release
[01:14] <Qalimas> I run 3.5
[01:15] <kkathman> I have experienced no bugs whatsoever in kopete since going to 3.5
[01:15] <_magnus> Anyone know how I change the background of konqueror (when in filebrowser-mode)?
[01:15] <kkathman> if you have, please report them to the bugzilla so they can be investigated and fixed
[01:15] <Qalimas> Sometimes (read: most of hte time), my MSN messages will not send
[01:15] <Qalimas> The list will not update for my contacts often
[01:15] <Qalimas> Example, it'll show someone as online when they are not
[01:16] <kkathman> Qalimas: this is because that any programs, besides the real MSN and AIM, are technically hacks and periodically get "blocked" by their respective tech centers - there is less and less of that tho now
[01:17] <kkathman> you would have the same problem with "Trillian" on Windows
[01:17] <Qalimas> I have no problems using Gaim, but I don't like the GTK interface in KDE
[01:17] <kkathman> but I personally havent had a problem
[01:17] <kkathman> I do know that occasionally things go wacko, and thats why (especially with the merger going on)
[01:17] <tracy_> anyone have a link for an updated linux driver for an nvidia tnt agp card?
[01:18] <hawking> what's the grub option to disable graphic boot?
[01:20] <yellowdart> hawking: in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:20] <hawking> yes?
[01:20] <yellowdart> where is says "quiet splash" for each menu option
[01:21] <hawking> yes?
[01:21] <yellowdart> comment that part out...you can put verbose too i think...
[01:21] <rance> hi guys
[01:21] <yellowdart> but that shouldnt be needed
[01:21] <hawking> I already removed it
[01:21] <hawking> and I see a blank screen on startup no console nothing
[01:22] <yellowdart> then put verbose instead
[01:22] <hawking> hmm I'll try that
[01:23] <hawking> ok trying that... I'll come back soon
[01:25] <rance> does anybody know how to turn off cd automount?
[01:26] <_magnus> Which package do I install to get the eclipse IDE?
[01:27] <yellowdart> eclipse-sdk
[01:31] <GameOver> how do i give write permission to folders that wont let me paste or do anything to them?
[01:32] <yellowdart> GameOver: 'sudo chown -R user:group /folder' or 'sudo chmod -R +777 /folder'
[01:33] <yellowdart> the first one actually changes who owns it..the 2nd changes who can write to it
[01:33] <yellowdart> and user is your username...and group is a group you belong to...
[01:33] <GameOver> can i do it so that it applies to everything
[01:33] <yellowdart> -R
[01:34] <yellowdart> means recursively
[01:34] <yellowdart> which means all the contents follow suit
[01:35] <GameOver> ok i will give it a try
[01:35] <Elsan_> Is there any way to make apps not use the KDE color settings besides running as root/sudo?
[01:39] <GameOver> yellowdart: works great.. thanks
[01:39] <yellowdart> GameOver: no problem
[01:41] <hawking> I tried putting verbose on boot line
[01:41] <hawking> didn't work :/
[01:41] <hawking> what can i do?
[01:42] <_guest> Hi! how do i set the default gateway under kubuntu? I know i can use route add default gw <address> but how do i make this stick through reboots?
[01:43] <hawking> can someone help me with this? I can't see anything on boot and clicking ctrl+alt+f1 doesn't work
[01:43] <hawking> I can't see the tty1 either
[01:43] <hawking> how can i set kdm to start at startup?
[01:47] <_guest> i found it in the FAQ, thanks!
[01:48] <yellowdart> hawking: did you change the runlevel of KDM?...if so, you need to put it back to get it on startup
[01:49] <hawking> how?
[01:49] <yellowdart> didnt you change it to runlevel 1? (vaguely remember)
[01:53] <Trollinator> Hello, can somebody help me to install my WLAN?
[01:59] <neoncode> Does linux support nvidia's SLI multi-GPU rendering?
[02:02] <kkathman> neoncode:  http://www.nvidia.com/object/linux_display_ia32_1.0-8174.html
[02:04] <hawking> I have to find a way... I get a blank screen on bootup right after the first boot lines when I boot in normal mode but when I boot in recovery mode everything just runs ok....
[02:05] <hawking> anyone here?
[02:05] <neoncode> kkathman: Woo! I am so going to get SLI in my next computer... I hope...
[02:06] <hawking> I try adding console=tty0 to grub
[02:12] <username011806> so mates.. just me?.. or unnofficial kubuntu faq supporting apt sources others have warned will bork my k install please?.. tx
[02:13] <username011806> i.e. multiverse etc?
[02:19] <transgress_> okay when i try to connect my desktop directly to my modem after it's been connected to the router, and then run ifup, it tries searching the for the dhcp from the router instead of whatever is being broadcasted from the modem
[02:19] <transgress_> is there a way to fix this?
[02:20] <mcscruff> lo , how can i list all dirs and sub dirs
[02:20] <kkathman> mcscruff: ls -l
[02:21] <kkathman> for a particular dir
[02:22] <protocol> can anyone lend me a hand?
[02:22] <mcscruff> ty kath
[02:23] <kkathman> np
[02:23] <mcscruff> but that dont list the subdirs
[02:23] <kkathman> hmm
[02:23] <kkathman> you want like top to bottom?
[02:24] <mcscruff> yep :)
[02:24] <mcscruff> of every folder name i have in that dir
[02:24] <mcscruff> ls -R is gd, but it gives files too
[02:26] <kkathman> mcscruff: hmm yeah
[02:26] <kkathman> try man ls  that might help
[02:26] <kkathman> thats what I was doing :)
[02:26] <Elsan_> Is the KDE 3.5 release repository down?
[02:27] <Elsan_> www.kubuntu.org seems down also...
[02:30] <tracy_> is there a way to change the fonts on kde? i have my screen resolution at like 1400x1050, but the fonts everywhere make it look like 1024x768. =[
[02:31] <cinder> hola
[02:31] <cinder> hay alguien??
[02:31] <kkathman> mcscruff: I even tried to fake it out with -Q "" and it didnt work
[02:31] <kkathman> !es
[02:31] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:31] <cinder> okok, I didn't know the language
[02:31] <cinder> sorry
[02:32] <kkathman> np
[02:32] <cinder> Where is the option for my kde to look like osx?
[02:32] <cinder> I mean, the bar at the top
[02:33] <kalenedrael> It's in the control thingo, Desktop -> Behavior
[02:33] <Elsan_> www.kubuntu.org is down...
[02:34] <cinder> kalenedrael: thanks!!
[02:34] <kkathman> cinder - sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira    then use the system settings - appearance  window decorations/styles and choose baghira
[02:34] <kkathman> then install like kxdocker or something
[02:34] <cinder> yeap, I saw freedy shots
[02:34] <cinder> in k gallery
[02:34] <mcscruff> kkathman, if i can filter so it only shows files with a certain extension, how do i do the opposite
[02:34] <kkathman> personally I think it looks terrible but...to each his own
[02:35] <kalenedrael> Yeah, no problem.
[02:35] <kkathman> mcscruff: yah I did that too :)
[02:35] <kkathman> hehe
[02:35] <mcscruff> how do i do it
[02:35] <mcscruff> :(
[02:35] <mcscruff> i know there is only about 2 filetypes in there
[02:38] <mcscruff> got it :)
[02:39] <kkathman> kewl
[02:42] <gach> hello
[02:42] <vge> arrrgh, is it possible to prevent panel autoshowing if keyboardbutton is not pressed?
[02:42] <gach> i have some serious problems here
[02:42] <kkathman> gach lets hear about it :)
[02:42] <gach> first of all my sound doesnt work quite right
[02:42] <gach> i have an hda card
[02:42] <kkathman> hda card?
[02:43] <gach> yeah azalia hda
[02:43] <gach> interated
[02:43] <gach> and i downloaded and installed the latest alsa source
[02:43] <gach> compiled installed it
[02:43] <kkathman> ok
[02:43] <gach> and everithing went fine
[02:43] <kkathman> you have NO sound card to play stuff or no sound PERIOD
[02:44] <gach> its just that i cant get more sound that a repeating soound of drums
[02:44] <gach> the drums from de gdm
[02:44] <gach> it kept beating and beating
[02:44] <gach> repeating
[02:44] <kkathman> hmmm
[02:44] <PuppiesOnAcid> Ok, question:  if there are updates to ubuntu and ubuntu packages, does kubuntu sort of lag behind since it's kind of an offshoot of ubuntu?
[02:44] <gach> and i cant play a damn thing
[02:45] <kkathman> PuppiesOnAcid: no
[02:45] <gach> ..
[02:45] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does kubuntu handle dual-monitors pretty well?
[02:45] <kkathman> PuppiesOnAcid: they use the same ubuntu core...only difference is that kubuntu uses KDE
[02:45] <gach> please... any ideas with my sound problem
[02:45] <gach> everithin loads fine
[02:45] <kkathman> PuppiesOnAcid: as far as I know yes
[02:45] <PuppiesOnAcid> I remember setting up my dual monitor setup manually in Gentoo way back when...and it's a bitch.
[02:46] <kkathman> gach.... what sound program?
[02:46] <gach> and it gets recognized
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> KDE uses X.Org, correct?
[02:46] <gach> sound in general
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> er, kubuntu
[02:46] <kkathman> PuppiesOnAcid: as does gnome
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> Cool
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> Well, I downloaded kubuntu because linus and others say KDE is better
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> And they say it is prettier
[02:46] <PuppiesOnAcid> I like pretty
[02:46] <gach> it is
[02:46] <kkathman> its a matter of opinion
[02:47] <kkathman> beauty is in the eye of the beholder
[02:47] <gach> i cant get nothing out of this!!!
[02:47] <kkathman> gach what are you using for a sound program?
[02:47] <gach> alsa
[02:47] <kkathman> ahh ok
[02:48] <kkathman> but you compiled it?
[02:48] <gach> yes
[02:48] <Rocco83> hi
[02:48] <kkathman> and there was something wrong with the previous alsa?
[02:48] <gach> yes
[02:48] <kkathman> I see
[02:48] <gach> it hanged the hotplug subsystem
[02:48] <kkathman> did you have sound before this?
[02:49] <gach> nop
[02:49] <kkathman> hmm
[02:49] <kkathman> ok
[02:49] <gach> breezy has problem with my sound card and the hotplug
[02:49] <Rocco83> i HAVE to remove automatic mount of external disk. how can i do it?
[02:49] <gach> i needed to do a few thins
[02:49] <gach> but everithing installed ok
[02:49] <kkathman> Rocco83: sudo unmount <device?
[02:49] <gach> modules are loaded correctly
[02:50] <Rocco83> kkathman, no, remove automatic mount, not remove mounted device
[02:50] <kkathman> Rocco83: oh ok... go into the fstab and remove the auto or add noauto
[02:50] <gach> put noauto on your fstab
[02:50] <gach> open fstab rocco
[02:50] <gach> search for the device
[02:50] <gach> and in the options
[02:51] <gach> put noauto
[02:51] <Rocco83> so i have to add first my device
[02:51] <Rocco83> cause i have none about sdb (external usb-storage)
[02:51] <PuppiesOnAcid> gach: What kind of soundcard do you have?
[02:52] <gach> puppies azalia hda
[02:52] <Rocco83> right?
[02:53] <gach> rocoo
[02:53] <gach> i guess you need it..
[02:53] <gach> do you use gnome or kde?
[02:53] <Rocco83> console.
[02:53] <gach> .............
[02:53] <gach> all conole
[02:54] <gach> ?
[02:54] <Rocco83> but kde,,,
[02:54] <Rocco83> as dm
[02:54] <gach> no graphic ui?
[02:54] <Rocco83> (i like a lot konsole)
[02:54] <Rocco83> yes, yes, ok, i am using kde :)
[02:56] <gach> rocco
[02:56] <gach> search in the control panel
[02:56] <gach> i think i remember you can disable automount from there
[02:57] <Rocco83> i tried
[02:57] <Rocco83> i'll retry
[02:58] <gach> if that doesnt work.. i always do the fstab thing
[02:58] <gach> it works everytime
[03:00] <tracy_> is it at all possible to change the fonts in the k menu?
[03:01] <markrian> tracy_: you have to change application fonts settings
[03:01] <tracy_> i did
[03:01] <tracy_> still huge
[03:01] <tech9iner> so mates.. me 2nd lappy loaded up with kubuntu 5.10..
[03:01] <markrian> Are application fonts settings okay?
[03:01] <tech9iner> gettn bit 'korn'fused on unofficial k faq site..
[03:02] <tech9iner> tells one to download 'preferences' file and 'sources.list' blah blah
[03:03] <tech9iner> but im not finding an original /etc/apt/preferences file ? and the one the faq offers is 'hoary' vs freshly installed 'breezy' ?
[03:03] <tech9iner> not 2 mention fact that faq seems based on 64bit systems?
[03:04] <tech9iner> am i missing something here please?
[03:05] <tracy_> markrian, where did you find application fonts settings?
[03:08] <markrian> tracy_: settings:/LookNFeel/ in konqueror, then Fonts
[03:09] <rance> hi kids
[03:09] <rance> how are we doing
[03:09] <tech9iner> anyone configured fresh kubuntu 5.10 following the unofficial faq ^^ above please?..
[03:09] <tech9iner> g'day rance
[03:12] <tracy_> i dont have an application fonts settings. just general, fixed width, toolbar, menu, window title, taskbar, and desktop. all of those are set to a size thats smaller than the ones are in the kicker/kmenu
[03:14] <Tallia1Kubuntu> matlab keep crashing.. but i am using the same version that i used long time ago.. i receive a segmentation fault or a BAD OPTION error from the X server... what do you think could be?
[03:14] <grim76> kbuntu.org repo having problems tonight?
[03:16] <_jeff> hey guys
[03:17] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is there anything equivalent to iTunes on linux?
[03:17] <tracy_> so theres no other way to get the fonts to change in kde 3.5? im stuck with these huge fonts?
[03:17] <_jeff> does anyone know how to find ur mac adress in kubuntu?
[03:17] <PuppiesOnAcid> Like, not to buy music, but just to organize your songs?
[03:17] <PuppiesOnAcid> and stuff
[03:17] <tech9iner> tracy_: dija check over in #kde guv?
[03:17] <Tallia1Kubuntu> amarok is itunes equivalence
[03:17] <_jeff> puppiesonacid: amarok seems to work well for me
[03:17] <tracy_> tech9iner, aye
[03:18] <_jeff> does anyone know where i can find my mac adress?
[03:18] <tech9iner> amarok.. well.. just ROKz! LOL
[03:18] <grim76> _jeff: ifconfig should show your mac addy
[03:18] <_jeff> grim76: thanks man
[03:18] <grim76> np
[03:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tracy_: how can i install kde 3.5?
[03:20] <tracy_> Tallia1Kubuntu, you already running kubuntu?
[03:20] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[03:21] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[03:21] <ubotu> kde3.5 is, like, totally, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[03:22] <tech9iner> what apt-get install command is best to get all necessary xfce4 on this lappy please.. kde dtop bit heavy for this old Pll 266/128ram lol
[03:22] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it is down..
[03:23] <tracy_> Tallia1Kubuntu, you have to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main in your /etc/sources.list
[03:23] <Tallia1Kubuntu> and then?
[03:24] <tech9iner> for hdd space's sake mates..
[03:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> tracy_: once i insert that line what do i have to do?
[03:24] <nalioth> !kde 3.5
[03:24] <ubotu> I heard kde 3.5 is at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[03:24] <nalioth> grrr
[03:24] <Tallia1Kubuntu> the website is DOWN
[03:25] <tech9iner> how doth kubuntu noobz [ahem ;]  remove as much of kde bloat as possible without losing kde apps .. can be done please?
[03:25] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: if the website is down, the repo is down, too
[03:25] <mcscruff> is there any tools in linux like deamon tools (need to emulate an iso for vmware coz its not mounting properly in vmware)
[03:25] <nalioth> tech9iner: if you don't want bloat, run fvwm or xfce4
[03:25] <tech9iner> ahem.. rofl.. ^^^
[03:26] <kalenedrael> Don't use X :P
[03:27] <wakest> I am on a fresh install of kubuntu, I want to install gnome, what package do I install
[03:27] <tech9iner> is it possible to keep lean basic kde apps & utilities, i.e. konqueror etc, without using up the entire.. what like 1gig of hdd for the kde part?
[03:27] <nalioth> wakest: install "ubuntu-desktop"
[03:27] <tech9iner> hehe.. ty kalenedrael .. but too gui dependent here for that extreme lol
[03:28] <wakest> ahh
[03:28] <wakest> thanks
[03:28] <kalenedrael> I dunno, use directfb or something other than X.
[03:28] <mcscruff> wakest, why not just use "ubuntu"
[03:28] <kalenedrael> Because GNOME sucks :P
[03:29] <mcscruff> he wants gnome desktop
[03:29] <mcscruff> :S
[03:29] <kalenedrael> Oh.
[03:29] <wakest> I had downloaded the kubuntu install/live dvd
[03:29] <kalenedrael> Wait, then what the hell?
[03:29] <wakest> but I decided I wanted gnome
[03:29] <kalenedrael> ubuntu-desktop :P
[03:29] <mcscruff> why isnt deamon tools on linux :(
[03:30] <wakest> do you have to recompile kde applications to run in gnome
[03:30] <mcscruff> no
[03:30] <wakest> really?
[03:30] <mcscruff> aslong as u have the kdelibs etc
[03:30] <wakest> so, if I install gnome, and kdelids, I can use all the k apps in gnome
[03:31] <wakest> YAY
[03:31] <wakest> that makes me happy
[03:32] <mcscruff> what gnome apps could u possibly need
[03:32] <mcscruff> i have not found 1 i use
[03:32] <wakest> if I do a apt-get install ubuntu-desktop will it give me an option to log into either kde or gnome?
[03:32] <tech9iner> ahem.. cough*gnomemeeting*coug bingo! ;] ] 
[03:32] <grim76> Anyone know how to setup beagled to run automatically when you login?
[03:32] <wakest> or is that a seprate install
[03:33] <mcscruff> u get the choice
[03:33] <mcscruff> if u have a kdm (gui log-on screen) just click session
[03:33] <mcscruff> then gnome/kde
[03:33] <mcscruff> **cough**kde as default***cough***
[03:34] <wakest> I like polish...
[03:34] <mcscruff> anyway NN all
[03:34] <wakest> kde is Vary windows Esq, no offense
[03:35] <wakest> I am a mac guy
[03:35] <wakest> I am running this on a powerbook
[03:35] <kalenedrael> KDE is hardly windows-esque.
[03:35] <kalenedrael> I mean, you can make it look that way...
[03:35] <kalenedrael> You can also make it look like OSX, if you like.
[03:35] <wakest> it feels that way to me, in camparison to gnome
[03:35] <wakest> I will use both
[03:35] <mcscruff> or you can make it look like my desktop :)
[03:36] <kalenedrael> Or like mine :P
[03:36] <wakest> I like options, thats why I am using linux in the first place, gawd
[03:36] <tech9iner> or like a 'roll ur own' even..
[03:36] <mcscruff> i use linux then windows in vmware :)
[03:37] <wakest> I am looking forward to getting vmware installed
[03:38] <wakest> and playing around with crapy old windows and dos apps on my 2000 dollar powerbook
[03:38] <Arcanimus> is there a vmware for linux?
[03:38] <mcscruff> yep
[03:38] <Arcanimus> seriously?
[03:38] <Arcanimus> that's sick
[03:38] <mcscruff> yep
[03:38] <Arcanimus> i thought it was only for windows
[03:38] <mcscruff> [02:37]  <mcscruff> i use linux then windows in vmware :)
[03:38] <mcscruff> gave it away really
[03:38] <Arcanimus> well i was just confirming
[03:38] <Arcanimus> i thought i misread
[03:38] <mcscruff> kk :P
[03:39] <mcscruff> sry, its very late and sarcasm sets in
[03:39] <Arcanimus> it's ok
[03:40] <Arcanimus> mcscruff, so "vmware workstation" is what i want?
[03:41] <mcscruff> yep
[03:41] <mcscruff> 15 day trial too
[03:41] <mcscruff> :)
[03:41] <mcscruff> :P
[03:43] <mcscruff> i need a few windows apps (mostly converters)
[03:43] <wakest> how do you log in as root?
[03:43] <mcscruff> there is no root
[03:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell wakest about root
[03:43] <mcscruff> :)
[03:43] <nalioth> wakest: you don't
[03:43] <grim76> Any ideas on starting beagled automatically when I login?
[03:44] <mcscruff> nn all
[03:44] <Arcanimus> mcscruff, i can't download vmware for some reason - their proxy is down or something?
[03:44] <Arcanimus> wanna DCC me the installer
[03:44] <Arcanimus> ?
[03:46] <wakest> wow, I feel like an idiot, I was trying to talk to ubotu,
[03:46] <wakest> didn't realize it was a bot
[03:46] <wakest> man, I think I must need some sleep or something
[03:46] <Arcanimus> LOL
[03:46] <nalioth> grim76: it should start automagically upon installation (if you use the one from the repos)
[03:47] <nalioth> wakest: the root account is disabled in kubuntu for a reason that ubotu linked you to
[03:48] <wakest> I get it
[03:48] <grim76> nalioth: I did use the repo, but when I launch beagle to do a search it tells me I need to start beagled
[03:48] <wakest> I figured out my problem
[03:48] <nalioth> grim76: that doesnt sound correct
[03:48] <nalioth> it is supposed to put a link to beagled into your startup stuff
[03:49] <grim76> nalioth: where do I need to look for that?
[03:50] <nalioth> grim76: i'd drop a symlink into your ~/,kde/autostart
[03:52] <wakest> is there a quick way to see your hard drive usage, a non termanal way
[03:52] <wakest> like on the desktop
[03:52] <wakest> or system tray
[03:53] <nalioth> wakest: there are a number of panel applets that do those things
[03:53] <grim76> nalioth: thanks I placed a link in there and will see if it fires up next time when I reboot for the next Kernel
[03:54] <nalioth> grim76: it's supposed to go in some system startup file, but autostart will do until you can find the correct file (or as long as you like)
[03:54] <wakest> is there one already installed by default?
[03:54] <nalioth> wakest: i'm not that familiar with all the toys in kde
[03:54] <grim76> nalioth: I am the only one on the system so for me is fine.
[03:55] <nalioth> kkathman may be able to help you when he returns
[03:55] <nalioth> grim76: ah, good then.
[04:21] <olaff> can someone tell me how do i install new themes for kde?
[04:24] <olaff> thanks
[04:24] <olaff> T_T
[05:04] <goldbrick> On Kubuntu Live, how do I mount my machines harddrives?
[05:31] <cinder> i have installed superkaramba + tux bar
[05:32] <cinder> but i do not have allowed the "configure theme" option
[05:32] <cinder> does anybody knows why?
[05:32] <cinder> alsa happened with liquid wheather
[05:35] <cinder> any idea??
[05:44] <jhealey> helo, can anyone help me with getting a better res than 640x480
[05:44] <jhealey> anyone here?
[05:45] <cinder> hi
[05:45] <cinder> wassap?
[05:45] <jhealey> i need help with fixing my video res
[05:45] <cinder> ok
[05:45] <jhealey> are you one of the gurus on this channel? : )
[05:46] <cinder> ahah no
[05:46] <cinder> far away...
[05:46] <jhealey> <--- will paypal $2.34 to anyone who can fix my video
[05:46] <cinder> haha
[05:46] <cinder> ok,
[05:47] <jhealey> where are you cinderfella?
[05:47] <cinder> arg
[05:47] <jhealey> as in 'entina'?
[05:47] <cinder> edit xorg.conf
[05:47] <cinder> argentina
[05:47] <_guest> jhealey: try K Menu -> system settings -> display
[05:48] <hawking> in what package is kdewallet?
[05:49] <_guest> hawking: apt-cache search kde wallet
[05:49] <_guest> dns gurus - how can i find out who owns the authoritative dns server for my domain?
[05:50] <jhealey> _guest, that didn'twork
[05:50] <jhealey> i only have 640x480 and 320x
[05:51] <cinder> run xorgconfig
[05:51] <jhealey> that command is not in my path..
[05:51] <jhealey> _guest??
[05:52] <_guest> jhealey: cinder is right, you need to configure xorg.conf either manually or using a tool
[05:52] <jhealey> ok. i'm getting a screwdriver now
[05:52] <jhealey> j/k. what tool?
[05:52] <_guest> heheh clever
[05:52] <_guest> the original one was xf86config, but now they use xorg i have no idea...
[05:53] <cinder> looking
[05:53] <jhealey> ok.  I have tried ubuntu and kubuntu, both install at this res
[05:53] <jhealey> knoppix and fedora dont though
[05:53] <jhealey> they worked fine
[05:53] <jhealey> so i know it's not the hardware broke or something
[05:54] <jhealey> cinderblock?
[05:54] <cinder> y
[05:54] <cinder> which hard do u have?
[05:54] <jhealey> hard what?
[05:54] <cinder> video
[05:54] <jhealey> its a clone,
[05:54] <cinder> i mean, a sis card
[05:54] <cinder> or which ine?
[05:54] <jhealey> oh, the card, it is a radeon 7000
[05:54] <cinder> one?
[05:54] <cinder> ati
[05:54] <jhealey> old radeon
[05:54] <jhealey> yes
[05:54] <jhealey> the driver it is using is 'ati'
[05:55] <jhealey> the board is a gigabyte, running an amd chipset and athlon 1k
[05:55] <jhealey> i've had it for 7 years : )
[05:55] <_stephen> how does one change the default OS to load in GRUB?
[05:56] <cinder> your res config is ok?
[05:56] <cinder> i mean
[05:56] <cinder> "1024*768" "800*600"
[05:56] <cinder> there is a line that says that
[05:56] <cinder> why don't u check
[05:57] <jhealey> yes, there are lots of those lines
[05:57] <jhealey> it appears to have detected bothe the monitor and video card correctly,
[05:57] <jhealey> they are both listed in xorg.conf
[05:58] <jhealey> Section "Device"
[05:58] <jhealey>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc.
[05:58] <jhealey> Radeon 7200 (R100 QD)"
[05:58] <jhealey>         Driver          "ati"
[05:58] <jhealey>         BusID           "PCI:1:5:0"
[05:58] <cinder> thats ok
[05:58] <jhealey> EndSection
[05:58] <jhealey> Section "Monitor"
[05:58] <jhealey>         Identifier      "DELL P991"
[05:58] <jhealey>         Option          "DPMS"
[05:58] <jhealey> EndSection
[05:58] <jhealey> Section "Screen"
[05:58] <jhealey>         Identifier      "Default Screen"
[05:59] <jhealey>         Device          "ATI Technologies, Inc.
[05:59] <jhealey> Radeon 7200 (R100 QD)"
[05:59] <jhealey>         Monitor         "DELL P991"
[05:59] <jhealey>         DefaultDepth    24
[05:59] <jhealey>         SubSection "Display"
[05:59] <jhealey>                 Depth           1
[05:59] <jhealey>                 Modes           "1600x1200" "128
[05:59] <jhealey> 0x1024" "1024x768" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
[05:59] <jhealey> oops
[05:59] <jhealey> sorry
[05:59] <jhealey> i won't try that again
[05:59] <jhealey> but you see what I mean, it appears to b eok
[06:00] <cinder> yeah
[06:00] <hawking> rafb.net/paste !!!
[06:01] <cinder> i have installed superkaramba + tux bar
[06:02] <cinder> and i cannot use the "configure theme" option
[06:02] <cinder> don't allowed
[06:02] <cinder> any idea??
[06:02] <cinder> the same with liquid wheather...
[06:02] <jhealey> what suppository did you download them from?
[06:03] <cinder> jhealey: where are u from
[06:03] <jhealey> texas USA
[06:03] <cinder> suppository = thing that u put on your ass
[06:03] <jhealey> oh. sorry
[06:03] <cinder> repository = where u get files
[06:03] <jhealey> oh oh oh.
[06:03] <jhealey> so sorry
[06:03] <cinder> ejejjee
[06:03] <cinder> danger!
[06:05] <jhealey> i ahve to go
[06:05] <jhealey> bye cinder
[06:05] <jhealey> thanks -guest
[06:10] <kevman> How do I disable animated progress bars in KDE?
[06:40] <t-k-fu> hi
[06:41] <t-k-fu> i installed kubuntu about a week ago, and it's also my first time trying linux
[06:41] <t-k-fu> it's on my laptop, though
[06:42] <t-k-fu> and i can't figure out how to get wireless working
[06:43] <t-k-fu> the wireless interface shows up as eth1 (my wired port is eth0), but i can't figure out how to actually connect to a network
[06:44] <t-k-fu> any ideas?
[06:56] <jughead> t-k are you trying to use the wireless or the wired?
[07:03] <t-k-fu> the wireless
[07:03] <t-k-fu> (sorry, afk)
[07:04] <t-k-fu> is there a utility to list networks or anything?
[07:04] <jughead> hmmm I'm sure there is, but I don't know what it is
[07:04] <jughead> are you plugged in through eth0 and eth1?
[07:11] <t-k-fu> i'm using eht0 rght now
[07:11] <t-k-fu> if i was using eth1 i wouldn't be worried about getting it to work :)
[07:20] <mrdoctor> heelo
[07:20] <mrdoctor> hola bob
[07:21] <mrdoctor> alguien me puede ayudar con ubuntu soy nuevo
[07:23] <robotgeek> !fr
[07:23] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[07:27] <braxis> Is there a default password for kubuntu
[07:27] <braxis> For some reason it never asked me during install and I can't seem to login to it
[07:29] <nalioth_zZz> ubotu: tell braxis about root
[07:30] <braxis> That's new
[07:31] <defenderBG> hi, i currently installed kubuntu and i have problems with setting my wireless lan
[07:31] <defenderBG> can anybody help me?
[07:31] <_fdelacruz_> braxis on my experience, the default in ubuntu same in kubuntu root is not allowed to login you have to manually it and before the installation ends you have to supply your username and password
[07:31] <defenderBG> my problem is that i cant find my wlan device...
[07:32] <nalioth_zZz> braxis: read the URL ubotu sent you. it explains everything
[07:32] <_fdelacruz_> defenderBG try to check on your internet
[07:32] <braxis> Yeah I am
[07:32] <braxis> It's frustratingly retarded
[07:33] <defenderBG> @fdelacruz: what do you mean to check on my internet?
[07:33] <_fdelacruz_> go to the menu and choose internet after got to KWIFImanager
[07:33] <_fdelacruz_> i have no problem with my wifi im using also kubuntu its works fine for me
[07:33] <defenderBG> well. have done it, unfortunatly it didnt find any device
[07:34] <defenderBG> i am not using centrino
[07:34] <defenderBG> so that is why it is not found automatic
[07:34] <defenderBG> a am using an acer with amd 64 and a NOT centrino integrated wlan
[07:35] <defenderBG> i couldnt find a driver for linux on the acer page, is there a way to use a windows driver instead?
[07:37] <_fdelacruz_> defender Im sorry I can't help you with your problem cause in my case im using a usb wifi device that comes from linksy so its automatically detcted by my machine
[07:37] <defenderBG> :(
[07:38] <defenderBG> well, gess i have to google...
[07:49] <kevman> I have Kubuntu running on a g3 iMac. Arts seems to stopping the sound from working. Can I disable it?
[08:04] <defenderBG> hi, i just tried to install ndiswrapper on my laptop but it didnt have make
[08:04] <defenderBG> ist this normal for kubuntu?
[08:05] <kevman> Lord knows why, but Kubuntu doesn't install make or any other compiling apps
[08:05] <kevman> Apt-get install automake will get you make, but, you'll need lots of other stuff too to compile.
[08:06] <kkathman-away> kevman:   apt-get install build-essential
[08:06] <kkathman> that gets alot, but obviously you need libraries...and those depend on what you are compiling of course
[08:06] <kevman> Oh, cool. Never knew
[08:08] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is there any way I can have a dual monitor setup without using Xinerama?
[08:08] <defenderBG> well i have to use windows to connect and have to restart every time
[08:08] <defenderBG> can you tell me all the packets i need to be able to compile?
[08:08] <defenderBG> so that i can download them now, reboot, install on kubuntu, then install ndiswrapper and live happili ever after...?
[08:09] <kevman> Man, installing Kubuntu on an iMac = mess
[08:20] <PuppiesOnAcid> Hey, I never set a root password when running the kubuntu install
[08:20] <PuppiesOnAcid> What is it by default?
[08:21] <hatake_kakashi> read the website
[08:28] <viviersf> PuppiesOnAcid, there is none
[08:33] <getaceres> hi
[08:34] <getaceres> kde 3.5.1 is supposed to be released today
[08:34] <getaceres> is there any package for kubuntu?
[08:51] <puppiesonacid> What's a good KDE FTP client? (Graphical)
[08:54] <kkathman> puppiesonacid: Kbear
[08:55] <kkathman> puppiesonacid: but you can use Konqueror
[08:55] <kkathman> or any file manager for FTP
[08:55] <raphink> konqueror with ftp:// works great most of the time
[08:55] <raphink> hi kkathman <><
[08:56] <kkathman> greetings :)
[08:57] <raphink> how are you today kkathman ?
[08:58] <kkathman> raphink: I am doing well, thanks...just doing some research on spam filters for my Kontact mail - Im getting innundated!
[08:58] <kkathman> do you happen to have any suggestions?
[08:58] <kkathman> I have the Bogofilter already
[08:58] <raphink> hmm
[08:58] <raphink> I use spamassassin
[08:59] <raphink> bogofilter is terrible
[08:59] <raphink> I used it and it would treat as spam lots of messages from my friends
[08:59] <raphink> so I just deinstalled it
[08:59] <raphink> it's a shame but lots of people still use hotmail and such, don't use subjects and use bcc
[09:00] <raphink> and yet I wish to receive their emails when they write to me
[09:00] <kkathman> yes
[09:01] <kkathman> bogofilter seems to have the opposite affect on me
[09:01] <kkathman> it blocks nothing
[09:01] <raphink> really?
[09:01] <raphink> did you train it?
[09:01] <raphink> I think it has to be trained iirc
[09:01] <kkathman> Im not sure about that
[09:01] <raphink> reporting spam manually in the begining
[09:01] <kkathman> right now its like a very ornery pet...untrained :)
[09:01] <raphink> not sure though
[09:02] <kkathman> ahh
[09:02] <raphink> you know with the spam button ;)
[09:02] <kkathman> I need to look at it further then
[09:02] <kkathman> but spamassassin Ive heard a couple of people mention
[09:02] <raphink> yep it's better imo
[09:03] <Zappa> i've been using spamassassin for years, it's great
[09:03] <Zappa> particularly version 3
[09:03] <raphink> :)
[09:03] <kkathman> raphink:  ok so I have a spam message in my box right now, but see no "spam" button??
[09:04] <raphink> hmm it's not in the default view
[09:04] <raphink> I had to add it to the bar
[09:04] <raphink> but you can right click ont he message
[09:04] <raphink> and choose to treat it as spam
[09:04] <kkathman> raphink:  yes I tried that also, but there is no such choice :(
[09:04] <raphink> hmm let's see
[09:05] <raphink> kkathman: did you actually activate the spam filters in kmail?
[09:05] <raphink> in Tools --> Anti-spam wizard
[09:05] <puppiesonacid> woohoo, got dual monitors working
[09:05] <kkathman> well I clicked on that option that says Anti-spam wizard yes
[09:06] <raphink> great puppiesonacid
[09:06] <kkathman> the option I DO get is to move the message to the "spam folder"
[09:06] <kkathman> but not mark it as spam
[09:06] <raphink> kkathman: did you get a  list of existing spam apps on the comp?
[09:06] <kkathman> that was the only one
[09:07] <raphink> when you right click on a message
[09:07] <raphink> you should have : Apply filter : Filter as spam
[09:07] <raphink> if you activated the filter option in the spam wizard
[09:07] <kkathman> aha I do have a button that says "Filter as Spam"
[09:07] <puppiesonacid> Ok
[09:07] <raphink> kkathman: ;)
[09:07] <kkathman> but not an option on the right click menu
[09:07] <puppiesonacid> So what's a good KDE application that will allow me FTP access?
[09:08] <raphink> kkathman: where is that option then?
[09:08] <kkathman> oh wait
[09:08] <kkathman> yes I do
[09:08] <raphink> puppiesonacid: konqueror
[09:08] <raphink> puppiesonacid: or kbear if you want a dedicated app
[09:08] <kkathman> sorry I was looking for SPAM and its FILTER
[09:08] <raphink> yes kkathman
[09:08] <raphink> puppiesonacid: I use konqueror most of the time
[09:08] <kkathman> raphink:  thank you
[09:10] <puppiesonacid> I think konqueror will do just fine.
[09:10] <puppiesonacid> Man, KDE is pretty freakin sweet.
[09:10] <puppiesonacid> It even handles dual monitors pretty well.
[09:10] <puppiesonacid> Once you get the x.org stuff setup
[09:13] <kkathman> raphink: thanks again...nighters :)
[09:14] <raphink> nighty night kkathman <><
[09:19] <puppiesonacid> Where exactly, do I get the akode-mpeg package?
[09:27] <raphink> puppiesonacid: what do you mean where?
[09:27] <raphink> every package on the repos can be gotten through apt-get
[09:28] <puppiesonacid> Well, it's not on there.
[09:28] <puppiesonacid> I'm wanting to play AAC and MP3 files through Kaffeine
[09:28] <raphink> raphink@sunchi:~$ apt-cache search akode
[09:28] <raphink> akode - akode plugin for aRts
[09:28] <raphink> akode-mpeg - akode mpeg plugin
[09:28] <raphink> ...
[09:28] <raphink> it's there for me ;)
[09:29] <raphink> it's in universe
[10:12] <suso> buenas
[10:13] <suso> estais callaos o me da ami :D
[10:14] <suso> joe pos anda que si menudo plan llebais
[10:14] <suso> pos ale adios
[10:40] <_fdelacruz_> hi guys any utilities available that can convert pdf files to ordinary files?
[10:41] <raphink> _fdelacruz_: what is an ordinary file?
[10:42] <_fdelacruz_> raphink like .odt and .doc for office
[10:42] <raphink> that's not what I call an ordinary file
[10:42] <raphink> ;)
[10:42] <raphink> there's a tool to convert to html
[10:43] <_fdelacruz_> raphink K i will try it what is that tool
[10:43] <raphink> pdftohtml
[10:43] <raphink> :p
[10:44] <_fdelacruz_> i will try that
[10:44] <raphink> _fdelacruz_: there's also popplers-utils
[10:44] <raphink> Description: PDF utilitites (based on libpoppler)
[10:44] <raphink>  This package contains pdftops (PDF to PostScript converter),
[10:44] <raphink>  pdfinfo (PDF document information extractor), pdfimages
[10:44] <raphink>  (PDF image extractor), pdftotext (PDF to text converter), and
[10:44] <raphink>  pdffonts (PDF font analyzer).
[10:45] <raphink> can be useful ;)
[10:46] <_fdelacruz_> raphink popplers-utils is the tools?
[10:46] <raphink> it's the name of the package
[10:46] <_fdelacruz_> thanks
[10:46] <raphink> apt-cache search pdfto
[10:46] <_fdelacruz_> i try it
[10:47] <visik7> ls
[10:47] <visik7> ops
[10:47] <visik7> :)
[10:47] <visik7> ok here my new problem of the dy
[10:47] <visik7> make menuconfig into a vanilla source works perfectly
[10:48] <visik7> make menuconfig into linux-source-2.6.12 says:
[10:48] <visik7> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:48] <visik7> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:48] <visik7> wtf ?
[10:55] <robotgeek> visik7: install gcc-3.4
[10:55] <visik7> why ?
[10:55] <visik7> isn't need on a vanilla kernel
[10:56] <visik7> why it's needed on ubuntu kernels ?
[10:56] <robotgeek> visik7: i am not sure
[10:56] <visik7> of what ?
[10:57] <robotgeek> visik7: why that is the case, why you require that line. maybe you can edit it out in the gcc-version.sh
[10:57] <visik7> btw gcc-3.4 installed
[10:57] <visik7> got another error:
[10:58] <visik7> here it is http://pastebin.com/514344
[10:59] <visik7> and linux-kernel-headers are installed
[11:00] <Linuxapprentice> I'm trying to install flashplayer but I get an error
[11:00] <Linuxapprentice> ur architecture x86_64 doesn't support it
[11:00] <Linuxapprentice> I have AMD64
[11:01] <Linuxapprentice> BTW which is the IRC program for Linux?
[11:01] <robotgeek> visik7: no clue, askin in #ubuntu
[11:01] <visik7> :(
[11:01] <Linuxapprentice> for the second?
[11:02] <robotgeek> Linuxapprentice: koversation?
[11:04] <Linuxapprentice> ok i found the Xchat
[11:04] <Linuxapprentice> I'll try it
[11:05] <Linuxapprentice> silly question: but I'm only an apprentice ;) where's the setup.exe of programs?
[11:06] <_fdelacruz_> raphink I already install xpdf where can I found that
[11:07] <raphink> where can you find what?
[11:07] <_fdelacruz_> the shortcut for that utils
[11:07] <raphink> for what utils ?
[11:08] <_fdelacruz_> the xpdf-uitls that you told me a while ago I already install it
[11:08] <raphink> sorry _fdelacruz_ but 1) I'm not in your head and 2) I'm on about 20 channels ;)
[11:08] <_fdelacruz_> k
[11:08] <raphink> I didn'et tell you about xpdf-utils
[11:08] <raphink> as far as I remember I told you about poppler-utils
[11:08] <_fdelacruz_> k i will isntall tah
[11:09] <_fdelacruz_> after that where I cand find that
[11:18] <abionnnn> has anyone managed to get adobe acroread to run properly in kubuntu?
[11:19] <abionnnn> or run at all in my case heh
[11:19] <Saw^> Could somebody help on setting up a RT2500 wlan card? I've got a driver for it now, but seems like pcmcia is not working or the card is anyway not detected.
[11:20] <arrinmurr> abionnnn: is there some something special you need it for?
[11:20] <abionnnn> you bet ;)
[11:22] <arrinmurr> abionnnn: ok. just thought that maybe kpdf / kghostview could do
[11:22] <abionnnn> arrinmurr: unfortunately, those don't format things perfectly
[11:23] <abionnnn> xpdf comes close but it's annoying as hell to use
[11:31] <C-O-L-T> I AM SO HAPPY I"VE JUST GUT THE UBUNTU SHIPIT FREE CD's
[11:32] <dark_suic> abionnnn, i just use konqueror for pdf files... (and works better than xpdf for me
[11:32] <abionnnn> doesn't that  use kpdf anyway?
[11:32] <abionnnn> if by better you mean it doesn't format it properly then maybe :P
[11:33] <abionnnn> I guess I'll stick to ghost view
[11:34] <Xemanth^> what about adobe reader for linux
[11:34] <Xemanth^> :D
[11:34] <abionnnn> Xemanth^: doesn't run at all
[11:34] <abionnnn> abionnnn@x50:~$ acroread
[11:34] <abionnnn> abionnnn@x50:~$
[11:34] <abionnnn> yay, nothing :P
[11:35] <dipnlik> acroread, eew. i just use it for testing
[11:35] <dipnlik> and speaking of pdf, when i print to pdf, documents don't look right in acroread
[11:35] <dipnlik> blurry and/or unaligned chars
[11:35] <abionnnn> probably the filter's fault rather than acroread
[11:36] <dipnlik> abionnnn: any ideas on how to solve this issue? i usually need to print html files to pdf...
[11:36] <abionnnn> do you use a2ps then ps2pdf?
[11:37] <dipnlik> abionnnn: no, i print using the printer dialog, it has an option to print to pdf
[11:37] <abionnnn> ohhh that's probably rat poo hackish code :P
[11:37] <abionnnn> use a2ps
[11:38] <dipnlik> abionnnn: does this work only for text files or html too?
[11:38] <abionnnn> a2ps takes in html files as far as I know
[11:38] <abionnnn> I think it stands for "all to postscript"
[11:39] <dipnlik> oic. thought it was ascii to ps :P
[11:39] <abionnnn> hehe :)
[11:41] <dipnlik> abionnnn: just noticed there is a html2ps package :P
[11:41] <dipnlik> anyway i'll try a2ps and ps2pdf, thanks a lot
[11:42] <dipnlik> though it would be GREAT if the gui option 'just worked'
[11:45] <dipnlik> abionnnn: problems with a2ps :(
[11:45] <dipnlik> netscape: command not found o.O
[11:46] <dipnlik> abionnnn: do i really need to install netscape for this to work?
[11:52] <abionnnn> hmmm I don't think it needs netscape lemme take a look
[11:53] <dipnlik> abionnnn: and html2ps doesn't read stylesheets, so... discarded
[11:53] <abionnnn> I think that's where netscape comes in I'm afraid
[11:53] <abionnnn> oh
[11:53] <abionnnn> but you can use lynx
[11:54] <dipnlik> eeeeeeeew
[11:54] <abionnnn> "There is one big difference though: with Lynx you will get a pure textual output proceesed by a2ps, though with Netscape real nice PostScript is produced (including the pictures etc.)."
[11:54] <abionnnn> ewwwww indeed :P
[11:54] <Tm_T> lynx
[11:54] <Tm_T> <3
[11:55] <dipnlik> abionnnn: guess i'll still convert my html to pdf using vnc and the pdf printer on windows :(
[11:55] <abionnnn> awwww =P what do ya use for vnc btw?
[11:55] <dipnlik> Tm_T: lynx eew, links2 yay
[11:55] <Tm_T> dipnlik: both good ;)
[11:55] <abionnnn> lynx has it's use
[11:55] <abionnnn> I forgot what it was though ;P
[11:55] <Tm_T> ->
[11:56] <dipnlik> abionnnn: i use krdc
[11:56] <abionnnn> neat it comes with kubuntu
[11:56] <dipnlik> abionnnn: but really need to take a look if ultravnc is available
[11:56] <dipnlik> abionnnn: only use it because it came preinstalled :P
[11:56] <abionnnn> hehe
[12:16] <SkrotFFS> Hi, Where can I define standard fonts for gtk-applications in kubuntu? The menu-fonts are huge :)
[12:16] <ninnghizidha> in the systemsettings, filed under appearance.
[12:18] <SkrotFFS> ninnghizidha: It's set to the same as KDE, but the menu's are still huge
[12:18] <SkrotFFS> It's eclipse btw, a java-application
[12:18] <SkrotFFS> But I think it's using GTK for gui
[12:19] <ninnghizidha> well .. set it to qt and adjust the fonts.
[12:20] <SkrotFFS> huh? Set it to Qt?
[12:21] <ninnghizidha> its at qt-wrapper for gtk.
[12:21] <SkrotFFS> I can't say I'm following
[12:21] <SkrotFFS> How do I "set it to Qt"?
[12:22] <ninnghizidha> don't you have a qt-skin to chose from the list?
[12:22] <Rocco83> SkrotFFS, afaik eclipse use swing.
[12:22] <SkrotFFS> Rocco83: Yes, but swing can use either GTK or Motif or something?
[12:23] <SkrotFFS> okay setting it to qt worked. Thanks :)
[12:27] <ninnghizidha> great.
[12:33] <_mindspin> hi, how can I get a USB stick (/media/sda1) visible for normal users (ie. non sudoers)
[12:33] <_mindspin> I can mount it as root
[12:33] <_mindspin> but not as regular user
[12:40] <dark_suic> _mindspin, i think it should work doing the following
[12:41] <dark_suic> open kcontrol (run command -> kcontrol)
[12:41] <dark_suic> peripheral -> storage devices
[12:41] <dark_suic> advanced -> activate backend HAL
[12:41] <dark_suic> this should work, if it doesn't please tell me and i'll tell you the hard way :P
[12:42] <_mindspin> wait I have to check it on the machine
[12:48] <bogo> I was trying to upgrade my KDE to 3.5 with apt-get, but I keep getting error messages
[12:48] <dark_suic> bogo, what messages u get?
[12:49] <bogo> I used 'apt-get update' and then 'apt-get install kde'
[12:49] <dark_suic> wouldn't it be easier to try apt-get dist-upgrade?
[12:49] <bogo> it says that kde depends on 'kde-amusements' and 'kdenetwork' that will not be installed
[12:50] <dark_suic> if you say just dist-upgrade or upgrade without dist :P it just should work correctly
[12:50] <bogo> if I used 'dist-upgrade' I'll have to download too much stuff, and my connection is not that fast
[12:52] <bogo> doesn't apt-get resolve the dependencies? I mean, shouldn't it download the 2 packages too, instead of complain?
[12:53] <bogo> what I want to do I just upgrade KDE, it's dependencies and libraries, I don't care about all the rest I have installed
[12:55] <bogo> and I thought that by using '...install kde' it would resolve the dependencies and libraries problems
[12:55] <bogo> is there some other parameter to pass on to apt-get? am I missing something?
[12:56] <dark_suic> bogo, if you try to install kde just like that you will have to download even more stuff :P
[12:56] <dark_suic> kde is a little package, but it just has a list of the packages needed to install, and it will install all the packages missing
[12:56] <dark_suic> so you will have to download even more than you have...
[12:58] <bogo> really? so you think it's better to use dist-upgrade or upgrade?
[01:10] <kottlett> hi! how stable is dapper supposed to be, atm?
[01:25] <vvatsa> hi all
[01:27] <raphink> hi vvatsa
[01:27] <vvatsa> raphink: hi
[01:27] <vvatsa> quite in here today.
[01:28] <raphink> yes quite
[01:28] <raphink> quite quiet
[01:29] <mserms> kottlett - it's still alpha, so I guess it's supposed to be pretty unstable. In practice, I've found it to be pretty solid.
[01:29] <mserms> Guess this stuff is all realtive though
[01:29] <vvatsa> :)
[01:35] <igorayeb> How i find de archive reponse to execute comands on the boot
[01:43] <_jan> Hello, i've got a question about KDE Icon Themes. In the dialog under System Settings -> Appearance -> Icons I can only find the Crytal SVG Theme and I personally don't like these Icons. Obviously I need to install another theme. But all I can find are some tar.gz files containing .svg or .png files. Somehow this is what I expected, but KDE tells me, that these aren't valid icon theme archives. So my question, where can I find a valid i
[01:46] <raphink> there are some icon packages _jan
[01:46] <raphink> otherwise, you can get more on kde-apps.org
[01:47] <raphink>  $ apt-cache search icons | grep kde
[01:47] <raphink> ^^ to find the kde icon themes that you can get through apt-get _jan
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> Hi. I installed kubuntu on my Acer Travelmate 3004 the other day, and (almost) every thing has been working wonderfull. My problem now is that, on the front of the laptop there are two buttons. Wlan on/off and bluetooth on/off. These buttons used to work. Now they don't. If I check dmesg I seem to get the same keycode every time I press them, before I got a different number if the button was already pressed and if it wasn't. Is it likely that this
[01:51] <SkrotFFS> oblem?
[01:55] <mth`MAW> Du laggst wie sau
[02:05] <phlewis> greetings
[02:06] <phlewis> I'm using latested kubuntu. Am having trouble installing midnight commander. Any suggestions for me?
[02:11] <phlewis> Installing mc. Anybody?
[02:12] <dark_suic> sudo apt-get install mc?
[02:13] <dark_suic> it should work...
[02:14] <phlewis> computer sez: E: Couldn't find package mc
[02:15] <phlewis> I don't see mc listed in Adept, either, unfortunately.
[02:16] <dark_suic> one sec :)
[02:16] <dark_suic> you have activated the universe repositories?
[02:16] <dark_suic> it's there
[02:16] <phlewis> howto activate universe repositories?
[02:18] <Riddell> Manage Repositories
[02:18] <Riddell> right click on the universe ones and enable
[02:21] <phlewis> dark_suic and Riddell: thankyou thankyou thankyou!
[02:21] <dark_suic> nevermind
[02:26] <phlewis> #quit
[02:31] <omar> Hello what is the new version of kubuntu
[02:31] <nlindblad> hello
[02:32] <raphink> breezy is the last stable one
[02:34] <omar> how cab i update
[02:34] <omar> I am on the old one
[02:37] <omar> }}}
[02:37] <omar> ??
[02:37] <Riddell> omar: bottom of http://help.ubuntu.com/kde/krelease-notes/C/index.html
[02:38] <vijay>  hi everybody!! anybody have the motherboard with via k8m800 chipset, and xorg.conf is set for via drivers
[02:38] <omar> Rindell i can't burn
[02:41] <Tonio_> Riddell: still need tester for the latest amarok ?
[02:41] <Riddell> Tonio_: always helps :)
[02:42] <Riddell> see kubuntu.org
[02:42] <Tonio_> yep
[02:42] <Tonio_> Riddell: found a little issue with konq's profiles
[02:42] <Tonio_> I'll send you a patch toonight
[02:42] <Riddell> hmm?
[02:42] <Riddell> ok
[02:43] <Tonio_> on certain websites, when you open a link with javascript + blank, the bookmarks bar appears in the new window
[02:43] <Tonio_> I think I have a solution to that, but I need to make tests
[02:43] <Riddell> hmm
[02:44] <Tonio_> Riddell: want an example ?
[02:55] <SkrotFFS> How do I go about if I want (or need) to compile my own kernel in kubuntu? May I make a .deb of it, like in Debian?
[02:56] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: sure, the same tools are available
[02:56] <BuZzY> when i boot my pc, it stops on root filesystem check, because it says that a file has "6 multiply-claimed block(s), shared with 0 file(s)" so i can't boot linux. i don't want to delete that file, how can i solve my problem?
[02:57] <SkrotFFS> crimsun: Is there a howto about it somewhere? I want to keep the config from the distro kernel, but add some stuff
[02:57] <crimsun> BuZzY: make a backup copy on a completely different storage medium, then reboot from a live cd and e2fsck the filesystem
[02:58] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: any standard howto will suffice. make menuconfig parses /boot/config-$(uname -r) automagically
[02:58] <SkrotFFS> crimsun: ah, but about making a deb :)
[02:59] <BuZzY> crimsun what's the difference between fsck and e2fsck?
[02:59] <BuZzY> what's better?
[02:59] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: you still have to configure it (same way), then you can use make-kpkg
[02:59] <crimsun> BuZzY: fsck is just a wrapper
[02:59] <crimsun> BuZzY: in the end, e2fsck is invoked
[03:00] <SkrotFFS> crimsun: I know, but I was thinking of a howto which explains how to use make-kpkg etc to make a kernel .deb
[03:00] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: that howto is in the kernel-package documentation
[03:01] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: you may also use a variety of Web search engines to cull results
[03:01] <xwolf-> there is this 'dpkg-reconfigure -something xserver-xorg' command... what do i have to put in the '-thingy' to change the screen resolution (only)?
[03:01] <SkrotFFS> crimsun: I know, I was just asking to check if there was one made by kubuntu :)
[03:01] <crimsun> SkrotFFS: check the forums
[03:02] <crimsun> I wouldn't doubt there is
[03:02] <SkrotFFS> Okay, thanks :)
[03:05] <BuZzY> crimsun so it s the same if i run fsck?
[03:07] <xwolf-> there is this 'dpkg-reconfigure -something xserver-xorg' command... what do i have to put in the '-thingy' to change the screen resolution (only)?
[03:08] <crimsun> BuZzY: essentially
[03:09] <BuZzY> what?
[03:09] <BuZzY> yes or no?
[03:21] <Firetech> phew, nothing was corrupt, it was just my initrd which didn't wanbt to load (happens sometimnes on warm hardware reboot)
[03:21] <Firetech> seemed like amaroK got a major memory leak though
[03:21] <Firetech> either that or Azureus
[03:22] <Firetech> hmm
[03:23] <Firetech> wrong channel.
[03:25] <BuZzY> what channel would be exact?
[03:26] <vge> hmm, what shoud be about the default packer amount available to install with apt-get with all repositories?
[03:32] <tictric> someone got experience with cups and remote ipp printer via cups?
[03:41] <mips> Hi
[03:44] <vge> how i add repositories to install azureus, i tought i had all of em setup, but ovously not?
[03:47] <mips> What is the best GUI download manager available ? Looking for something like Getright
[03:48] <vge> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/514618 <-- what does this mean??
[03:48] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vge about azureus
[03:53] <bigron1> just saying Hi, newbie at work.
[03:59] <SkrotFFS> Where is the grub config localted?
[03:59] <SkrotFFS> located*
[04:01] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:03] <nlindblad> good afternoon
[04:09] <vge> why cant eclipse and azureus be installed at the same time??
[04:31] <_luca> hi all. is there a way to make your webcam working with Kopete??
[04:32] <redguy> _luca: not sure, but propably not
[04:33] <mips> I need some partitioning suggestions. I have 2x160GB drives, I need to install Linux&Windows. I seperate partions for home and a FAT32 transfer area. How would you do it ?
[04:34] <_luca> _mips: i would clean all, then install simply FAT32 instead of NTFS
[04:35] <_luca> so... 1 HD to Linux, 1 to Windows and both happy :)
[04:35] <mips> luca: thats the plan but how would you guys structure the drives/partitions
[04:36] <nalioth> mips: well, windows + fat32 creates some serious fragmentation, so i'd keep the windows partitions >10gb each
[04:36] <mips> luca: that is my current setup. I do not need to give win a entire 60gb drive as I very seldom boot into win, so a 20gb win partition is fine
[04:36] <mips> nalioth: agreed on the fat32 thing.
[04:36] <_luca> uhm, first you have to install windows on one HD, then with linux you will surely have a swap partition roughly double the size of your ram
[04:37] <nalioth> mips: how much ram do you have?
[04:37] <jjesse> grub will handle things correcetly if you install it on the mbr is what i've found
[04:37] <mips> nalioth: 1GB
[04:37] <jjesse> if you have to do a repair of your win side it will overwrite the mbr :(
[04:37] <nalioth> mips: then make a 768mb swap
[04:37] <SkrotFFS> How do I update grub after adding something?
[04:37] <_luca> and about the other partitions, well if you plan to have more than 1 user it's a good idea to make a big home partition
[04:38] <_luca> SkrotFFS: read www.ubuntuguide.org :) i don't remember just now but surely it's explained there
[04:39] <SkrotFFS> thanks
[04:39] <mips> Drive2: Home Partition, Swap partition, NTFS swap partition
[04:39] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[04:39] <ubotu> somebody said ubuntuguide was out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[04:40] <mips> Drive1: 20gb Win, 60gb Kubuntu, 80gb fat32 no mans land
[04:40] <nalioth> lusus: please don't advise that any more
[04:40] <_luca> home the biggest, swap double size your ram, ntfs 10 GB but I made it fat32 so it could be read/write
[04:40] <nalioth> _luca:  please don't advise that any more
[04:40] <mips> How does that sound ? I just wish Windows could read linux file systems, are there drivers maybe ?
[04:41] <_luca> nalioth: pardon
[04:41] <nalioth> mips: there are, but do you really want windows able to access your linux fs?
[04:41] <_luca> mips: you find easiliy some programs on the internet that allow you to read ext2 ext3 from windows
[04:42] <mips> nalioth: I would only require read access from Win then I could ditch all the extra FAT32 partitions
[04:42] <vge> arrgh, how i set that when i type "abc" in the console it starts program located in /home/abc/programname ?
[04:42] <mips> luca:how bout reiserfs ?
[04:42] <nalioth> mips: read only or read-write  ext2fs.sourceforge.net
[04:42] <mips> _luca: how bout reiserfs from Win ?
[04:43] <nalioth> mips: reiser is for high performance server environments
[04:43] <nalioth> mips: there is no access stuff for reiser from win
[04:43] <mips> Which file system would you guys recommend ext3 or reiserfs ?
[04:43] <nalioth> ext3
[04:43] <_luca> mips: reiserfs is IMHO not suitable for large disk space, it is only for little spaces
[04:43] <mips> Maybe I should just leave a 20GB partition for BSD which I want to try out
[04:43] <vge> ill spam :(
[04:44] <vge> arrgh, how i set that when i type "abc" in the console it starts program located in /home/abc/programname ?
[04:44] <_luca> vge.... hmmm
[04:44] <vge> all installed programs do it, but how i manually configure it?
[04:45] <mips> Thanks, then I'll stick with ext3
[04:45] <_luca> i think there is a path to add in some file :) i'm too newbie for this
[04:45] <nalioth> vge: edit your $PATH
[04:45] <vge> how
[04:46] <nalioth> vge: if you go to google and type "edit $PATH" you'll have more of the same answer than you can swim in
[04:46] <judd> Anyone see security.ubuntu.com connecting and sending data very slowly for apt updates?
[04:47] <cryptopia> yes, very slooooow
[04:47] <judd> Any mirrors?  Recommended changes?
[04:48] <cryptopia> 9-11kB/s here -- don't know of any
[04:48] <tictric> cups says: client-error-charset-not-supported
[04:48] <judd> 17.6kB/s here.   Blah.
[04:48] <robotgeek> judd: yes, that happened to me too
[04:48] <cryptopia> maybe everybody is downloading the new kernel ;-)
[04:48] <kkathman> judd yes, it eventually kicks through tho
[04:48] <judd> Just when I need the kernel source.
[04:49] <tictric> hell, why does it not like utf-8?
[04:49] <judd> 2.6.12-10 is the latest?
[04:49] <blutrausch> hi
[04:49] <cryptopia> hi blutrausch
[04:49] <judd> Nothing "kicking through" here. :(
[04:49] <vge> nalioth: ya, i noticed, ty
[04:49] <blutrausch> are here also germans?
[04:49] <nalioth> !de
[04:49] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[04:50] <blutrausch> thanks
[04:50] <mips> O well, here goes backup data, delete ubuntu, install kubuntu......
[04:51] <cryptopia> does anyone have trouble with the kde print system not working? This happened after by kde 3.5 upgrade on 2 systems. CUPS works fine.
[04:52] <judd> I'm still back on 3.4.3
[04:52] <tictric> my local usb printer works fine. but I don't get that damn ipp printer to work
[04:53] <cryptopia> kprinter dialog just hands for me
[04:53] <cryptopia> excuse me -- *hangs* for me
[05:01] <kokurya-kai> hi
[05:01] <kokurya-kai> is there a possibilty to block ip's via consol?
[05:02] <nalioth> kokurya-kai: block them for what?
[05:02] <ilba7r> any one know why when i try new login i get a messed up screen
[05:02] <SkrotFFS> Hi. Is there a "unstable" version of kubuntu, like there is with debian?
[05:02] <kokurya-kai> thaqt the ip isn't allowed to connect any longer in a dc network.... some guy's are to dumb for such sharenetworks ;)
[05:03] <judd> Skrot:  That would be Dapper Drake.
[05:03] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: yes, but it's not recommended for production machines
[05:03] <nalioth> kokurya-kai: http://accs-net.com/hosts/what_is_hosts.html
[05:03] <kokurya-kai> thx
[05:03] <SkrotFFS> nalioth: Okay. Do you know which kernel versions are avalible for it (as in linux-image) and which alsa?
[05:05] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: you can find out all you want at packages.ubuntu.com
[05:05] <SkrotFFS> nalioth: yeah, I found it. Thanks :)
[05:05] <judd> kokurya: I don't think that's the link you want.
[05:09] <ilba7r> kokurya-kai, did you try setting it up in firestarter
[05:09] <DingoMan> hi alk
[05:09] <DingoMan> *all
[05:09] <kokurya-kai> ilba7r: just downloaded it thx
[05:09] <ilba7r> :)
[05:09] <DingoMan> anybody know where to download alsaconfig?
[05:10] <judd> Is there an apt-spy for Ubuntu?
[05:10] <nalioth> ilba7r: you can block individual IPs with a hosts file
[05:10] <nalioth> judd: wht is that?
[05:10] <DingoMan> or where is configuration file of alsa system?
[05:11] <ilba7r> nalioth, firestarter is easier for me
[05:11] <judd> nalioth: it finds the fastest mirrors for your network.
[05:11] <nalioth> !info apt-spy
[05:11] <ubotu> apt-spy: (writes a sources.list file based on bandwidth tests), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 3.1-13 (breezy), Packaged size: 27 kB, Installed size: 180 kB
[05:11] <ilba7r> nalioth, do you know what might cause a messy login screen when i try newlogin from gnome
[05:11] <nalioth> judd: there ya go, it's in universe
[05:11] <judd> nalioth: duh.. groovey.. thanks.
[05:12] <nalioth> ilba7r: how powerful is your hardware (video)
[05:12] <ilba7r> ati 9600
[05:12] <nalioth> ilba7r: got a lot of vram on that?
[05:12] <ilba7r> could it be because of the fglrx drivers
[05:12] <ilba7r> 64
[05:13] <nalioth> ilba7r: i have no idea, i am not familiar with ati performance
[05:13] <ilba7r> nalioth, on my desktop i have a shared 32mb and it works fine not on my notebook though
[05:14] <nalioth> ilba7r: again, i know nothing about ati performance.
[05:14] <ilba7r> was wondering if it is a gdm conf problem. ps desktop is an ati too
[05:14] <ilba7r> ok thanx for your help
[05:14] <tictric> DingoMan: there's alsa-utils package
[05:15] <tictric> got alsamixer, but what do you want to configure?
[05:16] <visik7> what's happen to security ?
[05:16] <judd> visik7: security.ubuntu.com is really slow.
[05:16] <judd> visik7: try running apt-spy to get mirrors close to you.
[05:17] <visik7> of security ?
[05:17] <visik7> is there a list ?
[05:17] <nalioth> there are 3 large files being offered by security today, that is why it's slow
[05:17] <SkrotFFS> dapper uses kde 3.5, right?
[05:17] <tictric> it's not only slow, its hanging
[05:18] <DingoMan> tictric: thx - but its not there - installed and still cannot up alsaconfig...
[05:19] <nalioth> dapper uses 3.5 yes
[05:19] <tictric> DingoMan: I don't think there's something like alsaconfig
[05:19] <tictric> there's alsactl and alsamixer
[05:20] <DingoMan> yes - but how to change default soundcard for system?
[05:20] <DingoMan> or disable one?
[05:21] <tictric> DingoMan: you got one onboard soundcard and bought an additional pci card?
[05:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell DingoMan about sound
[05:22] <DingoMan> i have sb5.1 and onboard soundcard - and i want to make onboard one the default for system
[05:23] <tictric> It would have been easier to just disable the onboard soundcard :-)
[05:23] <DingoMan> but sb doiesnt have optical output which i need...
[05:24] <tictric> well, that stuff works with slots you can enable and disable but I'll have a look if I can remember that stuff
[05:26] <SkrotFFS> Trying to dist-upgrade from breezy to dapper here, and I get "trying to overwrite `/usr/share/services/kontact/multisynk.desktop', which is also in package kontact", how do I force it to overwrite it?
[05:26] <SkrotFFS> (apt-get -f install did not work)
[05:26] <dutchie> evening all ... is there an IM protocol supported in kubuntu that allows webcam through ?
[05:26] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: using 'force' breaks things (sometimes)
[05:27] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: dpkg --help-force
[05:27] <SkrotFFS> nalioth: Overwriting a .desktop isn't that big a deal
[05:27] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: my responsibility here is to advise folks. you may do as you wish with the advice
[05:28] <SkrotFFS> nalioth: I know, I've been through this kind of stuff before, I just don't remember how to make it overwrite the file :)
[05:28] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: which is why i gave you the answer
[05:28] <SkrotFFS> nalioth: indeed :)
[05:28] <nalioth> SkrotFFS: and the answer is not --force-all
[05:28] <SkrotFFS> --force-overwrite
[05:29] <SkrotFFS> There we go
[05:29] <SkrotFFS> Thanks :)
[05:30] <TjaFs> sure you do, and im going applepicking with scoobiedoo SkrotFFS
[05:30] <SkrotFFS> TjaFs ;)
[05:30] <SkrotFFS> It's scooby doo btw
[05:32] <tictric> DingoMan: http://alsa.opensrc.org/FAQ026
[05:32] <tictric> DingoMan: next time you search yourself :-)
[05:33] <dutchie> is there an IM program on ubuntu that allows webcam streaming ?
[05:33] <dutchie> I can do it with Yahoo and MSN on windows ...
[05:33] <dutchie> would be nice to be able to do the same in kde/ubuntu
[05:34] <DingoMan> tictric: tnx v. much :)
[05:41] <tictric> judd: how do you configure apt-spy for kubuntu?
[05:42] <kevman`> I installed Kubuntu on my iMac (its 333Mhz G3). But only some sound works; Kaffeine refuses to run, but Xine is happy. Any ideas?
[05:44] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kevman` about sound
[05:44] <robotgeek> kevman`: install kaffeine-xine
[05:44] <kevman`> Too late.
[05:44] <kevman`> Doesn't work.
[05:46] <robotgeek> kevman`: did you select the engine as xine in kaffeine?
[05:46] <kevman`> Only selections is Kaffeiene and Gstreamer
[05:47] <kevman`> I'm pretty sure the kaffiene selection is the right one, though.
[05:47] <robotgeek> kevman`: hmm, interesting
[05:49] <kevman`> Maybe Ubuntu wil have better luck with this thing. Doesn't seem to detect the modem either.
[05:49] <robotgeek> kevman`: or insall vlc
[05:50] <kevman`> Well, I kinda want something that is embedded into the browser...
[05:51] <laser_tk> I install Firefox 1.5, and it says:
[05:51] <laser_tk> /opt/firefox/run-mozilla.sh: line 131: 19227 Segmentation fault      "$prog" ${1+"$@"}
[05:51] <robotgeek> kevman`: mozilla-plugin-vlc
[05:52] <kevman`> I just saw that.
[05:52] <robotgeek> laser_tk: hmm, what architecture?
[05:52] <laser_tk> 386
[05:57] <larsivi> hei SkrotFFS ;)
[05:57] <laser_tk> :P
[05:57] <SkrotFFS> Hoi larsivi :)
[05:59] <robotgeek> laser_tk: no sure, i don't run ffox 1.5 myself
[06:00] <DaSkreech> Is kubuntu getting the one button upgrade as well? or is that up to m0ns00n?
[06:04] <vvatsa> hey does any one know what the story is with get firefox 1.5 in apt?
[06:04] <nalioth> vvatsa: there is none yet in apt
[06:05] <DaSkreech> vvatsa: It's in Dapper?
[06:05] <vvatsa> Right, I guess I can wait
[06:05] <vvatsa> thanks guys
[06:06] <DaSkreech> sure
[06:06] <seashell11> watsa: it won't ever be in apt for breezy, if you google a little you should find a page that tells you why, I can't remember where it was
[06:06] <seashell11> vvatsa: shoot got the name wrong
[06:07] <vvatsa> seashell11: :) thanks, I am in no hurry, I can wait. I use konq. most of the time any way, just use firefox for gmail
[06:07] <DaSkreech> Essentially It would fix Firefox but break a lot of other things
[06:07] <andrzej> somebody have a sources.list from ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic??
[06:07] <DaSkreech> vvatsa: You too? :)
[06:08] <seashell11> andrzej: yea i have a sources.list from source-o-matic
[06:08] <vvatsa> DaSkreech:, me what now?
[06:08] <andrzej> how j get a GPG key
[06:09] <DaSkreech> basically use Firefox for Gmail
[06:09] <andrzej> for all repo
[06:09] <vvatsa> DaSkreech: well ya, I like fancy gmail interface.
[06:10] <kkathman> actually, the best way to get ffox1.5 is to download from the site to your own $HOME, untar, then symlink to firefox in /usr/bin after backing the original up. Very simple and easy (wont keep your other installed stuff, but it works).
[06:11] <robotgeek> andrzej: the gpg keys will be listed in your sources.list generated, if they provide one
[06:14] <weedar> So why does installing wine remove winesetuptk and vice versa? :)
[06:15] <vvatsa> weedar: I am guessing that winesetupgtk has its own wine binary linked with gtk code, so you can't have two wine bins.
[06:15] <weedar> vvatsa, yes that is a good assumption. Thanks :)
[06:16] <vvatsa> weedar: no prob.
[06:17] <toby> Does anyone have a repository that contains a package for the new Amarok 1.3.8?
[06:19] <jpatrick> toby: go to kubuntu.org
[06:22] <vvatsa> bye guys
[06:22] <toby> jpatrick: I'm puzzled by that because whilst they say they have 1.3.8, following the links leads me to 1.3.7 at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.7.php
[06:22] <toby> I can't see 1.3.8 anywhere.
[06:22] <jpatrick> toby: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/amarok-1.3.8.php
[06:25] <trappist> 1.3.8?!
[06:26] <toby> jpatrick: Well, I'll be... How did I miss that? I was clicking the "amarok 1.3.8" link not the "read more" link.
[06:26] <toby> Thanks!
[06:26] <SkrotFFS> Is ~/.Xmodmap run every time I boot/login?
[06:28] <jpatrick> toby: no problem
[06:30] <toby> SkrotFFS: I don't have that file
[06:31] <SkrotFFS> toby: okay
[06:31] <trappist> StarKruz1: no, you'd have to add it to a .bashrc or similar
[06:32] <robotgeek> SkrotFFS: maybe add to your session startup
[06:33] <SkrotFFS> robotgeek: good idea
[06:33] <SkrotFFS> robotgeek: does kdm run bashrc?
[06:33] <robotgeek> SkrotFFS: no
[06:33] <SkrotFFS> okay, which file do I need to put it in then?
[06:34] <robotgeek> SkrotFFS: there should be an option in kcontrol, i'm not on kde at the moment. just look for startup programs
[06:34] <SkrotFFS> okay
[06:35] <trappist> SkrotFFS: if you're using kde make a script that sources it in your ~/.kde/Autostart
[06:36] <SkrotFFS> trappist: thanks
[06:37] <trappist> don't forget to chmod +x it
[06:38] <trappist> oh I'm in #kubuntu, of course you're using kde :)
[06:39] <robotgeek> trappist: always has me confused
[06:45] <weedar> Is it possible to write to an ntfs partition with breezy?
[06:45] <nalioth> weedar: not safely, no.
[06:46] <weedar> Nalioth, I need to delete some files on a windows partition to get enough free space to reinstall XP (again..). Would you say it is safe enough to do so without hurting the other data on the partition?
[06:47] <nalioth> weedar: you'll need to do some research on what happens when you diddle with ntfs from linux
[06:47] <nalioth> weedar: you may end up with no ntfs partition at all
[06:48] <weedar> nalioth, I see.. It's very annoying, as the only reason I'm going to so much trouble is because I need to run a program to transfer a phonebook to a cellular phone (and it doesn't run in wine)
[06:53] <lusus> if i wanted to set yaboot to automatically boot linux.. do i remove the image area of the config file?
[06:56] <trappist> weedar: the only safe solution I know of to write to ntfs from linux is 'captive'
[06:56] <nalioth> trappist: and that is not quite "safe"
[06:56] <weedar> trappist, funny you should mention that, I'm reading up about it as we speak :)
[07:01] <JakubS> yet another attempt to make my laptop suspend and resume ... failed
[07:07] <weedar> nalioth, good call on captive not beeing safe. It took 2 seconds of deleting before something bad happened :(
[07:07] <nalioth> weedar: ok then.
[07:17] <RickKnight> I need help installing Unreal Tournament on Kubuntu-5.10. Installer can't see cdrom driv.
[07:19] <kmon> hi
[07:19] <trappist> RickKnight: there's a faq entry on that, lemme see if I can find it
[07:20] <kmon> I've recently installed flight cd3, but apparently my kubuntu installation is using gstreamer0.8. I thought every app was now using 0.10
[07:20] <trappist> RickKnight: export SETUP_CDROM=/path/to/cdrom
[07:24] <kmon> I've recently installed flight cd3, but apparently my kubuntu installation is using gstreamer0.8. I thought every app was now using 0.10
[07:25] <RickKnight> trappist: I've tried the SETUP_CDROM thing. It made no difference.
[07:25] <RickKnight> I've also looked in the mounted CD directory and I do have joliet support and I can read all the files.
[07:26] <trappist> what did you export SETUP_CDROM to?
[07:27] <RickKnight> #export SETUP_CDROM=/media/cdrom0, also /mnt/cdrom and even /dev/cdrom. All mount points.
[07:28] <RickKnight> One FAQ suggested turning off automount. How is that done in kubuntu?
[07:28] <trappist> ubuntu doesn't use supermount, thank god, but it's conceivable that pmount could be screwing you up
[07:31] <phlewis> greetings
[07:31] <phlewis> I'm new to Kubuntu
[07:32] <phlewis> Other distros I've used mounted the windows share and my usb external hard drive
[07:32] <phlewis> Kubuntu doesn't seem to.
[07:32] <larsivi> my Kubuntu mount my usb disk
[07:33] <phlewis> How do I get Kubuntu to show the Windows partition and usb external hard drive?
[07:33] <RickKnight> trappist: I assume I can stop pmount fairly easilly? Kill -9 ?
[07:33] <phlewis> it's dual boot kubuntu and XP
[07:34] <trappist> RickKnight: kill -9 should generally be reserved as a last resort.  I don't really know how pmount works.  I dunno if there's a process to kill.  you might just try manually umounting and remounting the drive.
[07:35] <trappist> phlewis: generally it will see your windows partition(s) and add entries to /etc/fstab during the install, and plugging in a usb storage device should cause it to be automounted
[07:35] <RickKnight> trappist: Tried unmounting and remounting. Didn't help.
[07:36] <phlewis> I't not showing anything in /mnt
[07:36] <trappist> RickKnight: this is where I bust out strace, as in strace -fF -e trace=file -o my_debug_file ./ut_installer.sh
[07:36] <trappist> phlewis: look in /media
[07:36] <trappist> phlewis: or run 'mount' to see what's mounted
[07:37] <phlewis> /dev/sda4 on / type ext3 (rw,errors=remount-ro)
[07:37] <phlewis> proc on /proc type proc (rw)
[07:37] <RickKnight> trappist: I'll try the strace. I allways forget that...
[07:37] <phlewis> sysfs on /sys type sysfs (rw)
[07:37] <phlewis> devpts on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,gid=5,mode=620)
[07:37] <phlewis> tmpfs on /dev/shm type tmpfs (rw)
[07:37] <phlewis> usbfs on /proc/bus/usb type usbfs (rw)
[07:37] <phlewis> tmpfs on /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile type tmpfs (rw,mode=0755)
[07:37] <phlewis> tmpfs on /dev type tmpfs (rw,size=10M,mode=0755)
[07:38] <robotgeek> phlewis: don't paste in here
[07:38] <nalioth> blah
[07:38] <JoeBlow> im using ubuntu right now, what is the difference between ubuntu and kubuntu, is it just graphical, or more?`
[07:38] <phlewis> trappist:/media shows only cdrom cdrom0
[07:38] <nalioth> phlewis: when one enters a irc channel there is a /topic usually. it is good to read the /topic for pertinent information
[07:38] <nalioth> phlewis: such as "please don't paste in the channel" in this instance
[07:39] <phlewis> ok
[07:46] <trappist> RickKnight: also, md5sum /dev/yourcdromdevice is a decent way to check for a bad cd
[07:50] <JoeBlow> seveas how do i switch back to gnome
[07:51] <Blippe> JoeBlow, do you have ubuntu-desktop left on your machine?
[07:51] <JoeBlow> Blippe, im installing kde right now, or turning it on rather, i just wanna know how to switch back if i need to
[07:52] <JoeBlow> Blippe, kde is setting up right now
[07:52] <Blippe> Joeblow, just leave ubuntu-desktop on your machine, and if you wanna go back to gnome, you just choose gnome when you login.
[07:53] <RickKnight> trappist: Using strace and tail -f I see this message when the installer tries to access the CD. 561   access("/media/cdrom0/UTLocalized", F_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory)
[07:53] <Blippe> If you decide to totally ditch kde just runt "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" and everything will be back to normal!
[07:53] <RickKnight> trappist: the file "UTLocalized" does not exist.
[07:53] <JoeBlow> Blippe, ok i did the set up after install, how do I turn on kde
[07:54] <robotgeek> JoeBlow: log out, and choose kde from sessions
[07:54] <Blippe> logout, and login again! Or for the best effect, restart (NOT needed)
[07:54] <robotgeek> Blippe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm doesn't remove kde :)
[07:54] <trappist> RickKnight: strace is always going to show a lot of file-not-found stuff for things that don't really matter.  I have no idea if that file matters.  Oh, one other thing - if you have the goty cd you're using the goty installer, and if not, not... right?
[07:55] <Blippe> robotgeek, no, but it will make it possible to restart and shutdown from inside gnome again!
[07:55] <RickKnight> trappist: good question. I don't know if I have the goty CD. How can I tell?
[07:55] <trappist> RickKnight: I don't know - presumably by looking at the label :)
[07:55] <trappist> RickKnight: might try downloading the goty installer and seeing if that works
[07:55] <robotgeek> Blippe: you can use kdm, and gnome will still have the same features.
[07:56] <robotgeek> Blippe: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm/gdm only lets you choose default desktop manager
[07:56] <RickKnight> trappist: that's the installer I have. I'm looking for a different installer now.
[07:56] <Blippe> robotgeek, last time i tried, I had to logout to be able to turn off the computer.
[07:56] <robotgeek> Blippe: from kde, yes. but from gnome?
[07:57] <Blippe> when using kdm...
[07:57] <robotgeek> Blippe: kdm != kde
[07:58] <Blippe> robotgeek, i never said so!
[07:58] <robotgeek> Blippe: sorry
[07:58] <robotgeek> i'm just too sleepy
[08:00] <Blippe> actually first time i showed the differences between gnome and kde for a friend, first thing he saw, was that it was impossible to turn of kde without loggin out. (i used gdm that time)
[08:01] <robotgeek> i dunno why the inconsitency
[08:02] <Blippe> it is a war out there! :D
[08:02] <robotgeek> heh, i'm using xubuntu right now. :)
[08:03] <Blippe> last time i did, it crashed and gnome started... I'm gonna wait until dapper (or the slimcd/ide adapter starts working for the other comp)
[08:05] <Blippe> xfce does have shutdown and restart with gdm, right?
[08:06] <robotgeek> i guess so
[08:06] <robotgeek> but it asks for user password :)
[08:08] <Blippe> ahuman01, implementing that at home would probably force my gf to murder...
[08:08] <Blippe> damn, replace ahu* with "ah, "
[08:08] <dali> anyone familiar with asusfan?
[08:13] <nlindblad> can you transplant beards?
[08:13] <nalioth> nlindblad: i suspect you need #hairclubformen
[08:14] <skbera> Hello everyone...
[08:14] <nlindblad> nalioth: is that a real channel or are you just making fun of me?
[08:14] <nalioth> nlindblad: this is not a barber shop
[08:14] <skbera> I have question for you.
[08:14] <Blippe> yay!
[08:15] <skbera> Is there any way to kill a process with "Disk sleep" status?
[08:36] <Slaphappy> i cant play mp3 in xmms
[08:36] <Slaphappy> what should i install more
[08:36] <Slaphappy> i can listen to radio music but not mp3
[08:38] <jpatrick> Slaphappy: install "gstreamer0.8-mad" from universe
[08:38] <Slaphappy> ahh thanx
[08:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Slaphappy about multimedia
[08:41] <ztonzy> hey apokryphos
[08:41] <ztonzy> hey all :)
[08:42] <ztonzy> a Question: if I get some sort of /lib/tls ... error when I log out from Kubuntu, using KDE 3.5...what kind of error is that ?
[08:46] <tech9iner> hmmm.. moin me ' k brudderzzz' ...
[08:46] <tech9iner> so.. methinks xine is bestes engine for amarok no?
[08:53] <Tm_T> tech9iner: I use gstreamer
[08:54] <Tm_T> but xine works too
[08:54] <tech9iner> ty 4 input chum.. but alas.. ive never ever had good stable luck w gstreamer ANYthang.. so i stick w xine here mate.. ;] ] 
[08:54] <jpatrick> Tm_T: xine keeps crashing here
[08:55] <Tm_T> jpatrick: heh, dapper?
[08:57] <jpatrick> Tm_T: breezy
[08:57] <dali> any good programs for GPU and CPU fan control?
[08:57] <JohnFlux_> you can control your GPU fans?
[08:58] <SkrotFFS> Hi. Where do I change the background-image in konqueror (in filebrowser-mode)? There should be a .css file or something similar, I just need to know where it is, or what it's called :)
[08:58] <dali> johnflux, with asusfan yes but it doesn't work anymore
[08:59] <dali> it doesn't find a monitoring chip anymore
[09:01] <dali> and I don't know how to fix it
[09:03] <Tm_T> jpatrick: ;)
[09:11] <jpatrick> nlindblad: oKay
[09:13] <fernando> hello
[09:13] <robotgeek> hey fernando
[09:13] <fernando> how are you?
[09:13] <fernando> algun latino
[09:13] <fernando> jejeje
[09:14] <robotgeek> !es
[09:14] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:14] <dark_suic> fernando, #kubuntu-es for spanish ;)
[09:14] <fernando> ok
[09:15] <wedgeV> hi, i'm running amarok 1.3.8, and the collection is always empty... it says "0 Track 633 Artists" on the bottom
[09:15] <dark_suic> O__o
[09:15] <dark_suic> quite weird, haven't tried 1.3.8 yet, but was going to try more or less in a minutes :P
[09:15] <dark_suic> if you don't mind waiting a bit
[09:16] <wedgeV> shure
[09:17] <dark_suic> well, just installed it but all seems fine...
[09:17] <trappist> wedgeV: upgrade or new install?
[09:17] <dark_suic> 2'5k tracks and about 300 artist...
[09:17] <robotgeek> dark_suic: how does quodlibet measure up?
[09:18] <wedgeV> new install
[09:18] <dark_suic> O__o
[09:18] <wedgeV> but i had the same problem with 1.3.8 on opensuse
[09:18] <dark_suic> what u asking for, robotgeek ???? i haven'tt understood you...
[09:18] <robotgeek> dark_suic:as an alternative to amarok, seems to take a lot less juice
[09:19] <dark_suic> O__o
[09:19] <robotgeek> dark_suic: search songs with regexes :)
[09:19] <wedgeV> seems like a sqlite problem
[09:19] <wedgeV> http://amarok.kde.org/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,57/func,view/id,6918/catid,8/limit,6/limitstart,6/
[09:19] <dark_suic> robotgeek, i don't have problems with it :P
[09:19] <dark_suic> i do like amarok a lot, even it's collection feature :P
[09:21] <trappist> mine's 60% done building the collection with sqlite backend.  I'll let you know how it goes.
[09:22] <wedgeV> it finishes updating the collection, but it is empty :(
[09:22] <wedgeV> i'm trying to setup postgres now
[09:23] <xst> How do I install new dictionaries in oowriter2? I have tried to select the "install new dictionaries" wizard but nothing happens. What to do?
[09:23] <dark_suic> wedgeV, your collection is all mp3?
[09:23] <robotgeek> yeah, on faster machines amarok is a great choice, even on slower machines
[09:23] <trappist> wedgeV: same here.
[09:24] <dark_suic> wedgeV, trappist theproblem if your collections are mp3 is not on amarok
[09:24] <dark_suic> is probably that you need additional packages to play mp3...
[09:24] <dark_suic> (k3b-mp3 is needed in amarok for playing mp3 with xine)
[09:25] <robotgeek> gstreamer-mad with gstreamer-engine also works
[09:25] <trappist> dark_suic: I'm all mp3'ed up here.  apparently it's a sqlite issue.
[09:25] <dark_suic> trappist, with mp3, you need k3b-mp3 to play mp3
[09:25] <PupenoL> Hello, installing linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 (2.6.12-10.26) the process halted and I can't do anything but dpkg --configure -a which continues to freeze, any ideas ?
[09:25] <wedgeV> dark_suic: mp3 and ogg
[09:26] <dark_suic> don't know if the problem is that, but with mp3 you need that package
[09:26] <dark_suic> wedgeV, try to add from konqueror by drag and drop
[09:26] <trappist> trying again with mysql backend
[09:28] <Slaphappy^> hi... i have installed dapper om my pc but i can't get swedish letters to work.. i have changed the keyboarlayout but it's still the same thing
[09:28] <Slaphappy^> is this a bug?
[09:29] <halibut> Hi, I started installing Kubuntu64, I got to the part where it asks you to remove the cd and reboot, then it rebooted and hung with loads of text on the screen, then I rebooted it (ctrl alt del, and I got all the term stuff), Then it said that the install might be corrupt, then it started doing lots of stuff, there is loads of white lines of text comming up on the screen, millions and millions of lines, it has been going for abou
[09:29] <halibut> t 20 minutes so fast that I cannot read it, am I screwed?
[09:30] <halibut> There is a number increasing on the side, it is on 947
[09:31] <halibut> what on earth is this? I thought kubuntu was supposed to be user friendly and really easy to install
[09:31] <halibut> :(
[09:31] <trappist> halibut: it sounds like something went very wrong during the install.  you're not seeing what you're supposed to see, for sure.
[09:32] <halibut> trappist, should I just hold down the off button?
[09:32] <halibut> trappist, what on earth is it doing?
[09:33] <halibut> It is on number 1000 now
[09:33] <halibut> Is it safe to leave it?
[09:33] <trappist> halibut: I have no idea.  sounds like not to much will be lost of you go for a reinstall.
[09:34] <angasule> hmm, konqueror has decided to display websites as prettily as if it were lynx, what got borked, any ideas?
[09:39] <halibut> It won't let me turn it off, what do I do?!
[09:40] <seashell11> halibut: what wont let you turn what off?
[09:42] <seashell11> halibut?
[09:42] <halibut> seashell11, read up
[09:44] <seashell11> woah! that don't sound to good, is it still counting up?
[09:44] <seashell11> :-S
[10:11] <HeadUp`> does someone can hrlp me for superkaramba
[10:11] <HeadUp`> ?
[10:12] <chris> hows flight 3? anyone using it yet?
[10:14] <trappist> wedgeV: works find with a mysql backend
[10:22] <aljoscha> hey
[10:22] <aljoscha> #kubuntu-nl
[10:23] <fatejudger> if I swap this hard drive into another computer, is Kubuntu going to freak out?
[10:25] <ilba7r> depend. It might not find some devices fatejudger
[10:30] <SkrotFFS> Is there a shortcut to launch katapult?
[10:32] <lordjoe> I think it is alt-space by default, not sure how to change it
[10:34] <PupenoL> I can't install any kernel, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-386 or 686 just hangs consuming lots of resources on Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.26) ..., can anybody help me ?
[10:37] <tictric> thunderbird's been updated to 1.5 in dapper but can't use it 'cause according package for enigmail's still missing
[10:37] <tictric> shame :)
[10:37] <HeadUp`> <<<<<<<<<<< et.merc pm
[10:38] <tictric> and todays apt-get update takes about 45minutes at 125kB/s
[10:39] <tictric> s/update/upgrade/
[10:43] <nalioth> tictric: enigmail broke on my breezy with the last t-bird updte
[10:43] <HeadUp`> <<<<<<<<<<< et.merc pm
[10:44] <tictric> did it upgrade to 1.5 there too? cause for 1.5 there's a different enigmail version
[10:44] <tictric> but don't upgrade enigmail with the t-bird updater because it will break it too.
[10:45] <tictric> there's some stuff adapted for k(ubuntu) with that extension that breaks normal extension install
[10:46] <Mias> huh. whats this: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `hplip' in statusoverride file?
[10:46] <tictric> http://hugin.sourceforge.net/ <-- that's what I've been lookin for ages :-)
[10:49] <nalioth> tictric: no, there was a security update for tbird in breezy and after that, my enigmail broke
[10:50] <tictric> oh, I'll have to check that out then when I swap the harddrive next time
[10:51] <_grigory> is there some special app i should use to download pics from digital camera?
[10:51] <_grigory> opened it in konqueror
[10:51] <_grigory> works damn slow
[10:51] <_grigory> cant read files, gives me errors all the time
[10:52] <kosh> hmm for the digital camera I have I just plug it in and it works
[10:52] <kosh> nothing special to read it at all
[10:52] <_grigory> strange...
[10:52] <kosh> not very strange
[10:52] <kosh> most of the cameras don't follow the usb mass storage spec
[10:52] <_grigory> windows has no problems reading it, but here, its a nightmare
[10:52] <jorik> what program can i use to back up my dvd's ?
[10:52] <kosh> and so they are harder to work with
[10:53] <kosh> k3b probably
[10:53] <kosh> it can burn dvds
[10:53] <hubbadub> ok guys i have a minor problem with firefox that i would appreciate some advice on
[10:53] <jorik> ok ill try that
[10:53] <JakubS> _grigory: digikam is good for camera
[10:53] <lordjoe> _grigory: I assume the camera is mounted as a usb removable storage device... if you have problems copying files from command line as well then you know it cannot be konqueror's fault
[10:53] <kosh> _grigory: under windows did you have to install any software at all to work with the camera or did you just plug it in and it instantly worked?
[10:53] <hubbadub> there are 2 instances in firefox where i get a good 3-5 seconds of lag/freeze
[10:54] <hubbadub> 1st is visiting any EBay site. and the 2nd is anytime i go to download something
[10:54] <kosh> hubbadub: how fast is your cpu?
[10:54] <hubbadub> it doesnt freeze the entire pc, just firefox, and like i said, just 3-5 seconds, so not major, just irritating
[10:54] <_grigory> umm... no, i just plugged it in, windows installed some drivers
[10:54] <hubbadub> 2.8 P4
[10:54] <hubbadub> this is a new problem
[10:54] <_grigory> and then it just worked as a storage device
[10:54] <hubbadub> only within the last 2 weeks has this occured
[10:55] <kosh> hubbadub: which version of firefox? do you have any extensions installed for it?
[10:55] <kosh> _grigory: that doesn't mean it relaly is a storage device, it could just be pretending
[10:55] <_grigory> ok, so it spend 10 mins copying content from the camera, find there two folders, could not read their content(~300 pics) and two text files, could not copy them either
[10:55] <hubbadub> could a re-install fix the issue? im using 1.5.............and I have a ton of extensions lol, around 22
[10:56] <_grigory> ok, ill try digikam
[10:56] <hubbadub> however, i dont think the extensions are the issue UNLESS it was an update to one of the extensions that caused it
[10:56] <hubbadub> because ive used this combination of extensions together for a while
[10:56] <kosh> _grigory: hook your camera in and start a file copy and then type dmesg at a console window and see if you are getting any errors
[10:56] <_grigory> ok, sec
[10:57] <kosh> hubbadub: I just have firefox 1.0.7 and I can't replicate that issue and I have no extensions installed for it at all
[10:57] <nlindblad> weee
[10:57] <nlindblad> 14.4GiB Kubuntu seeded
[10:57] <hubbadub> if i re-install firefox using say automatix, is there away to save all my extensions?
[10:58] <HeadUp`> et.merc........... NOW  FFSSS
[10:58] <ilba7r> hubbadub, running firefox here and i think the extension is the reason. at least it is on my install
[10:58] <_grigory> yeah, i still got "could not read / " error
[10:59] <hubbadub> hmm it maybe worth re-installing the extensions 1 by 1 to pinpoint the problem then eh
[10:59] <_grigory> meanwhile digikam downloaded and installed
[10:59] <fabian> exit
[10:59] <ilba7r> i have faster firefox and it actually made firefox slower :)
[11:00] <hubbadub> thats gonna take a bit, but i figure since i get all this shit for free, the least i can do is contribute some bug reports
[11:00] <jouni__m> hi kubuntu-live flight2 running here well  :) have not downloaded flight3 yet.
[11:01] <_grigory> kosh: digikam isnt working either
[11:01] <_grigory> ohh
[11:01] <_grigory> no
[11:01] <_grigory> working
[11:01] <NevidS> hi guys!
[11:03] <NevidS> I have Ubuntu with KDE-desktop. How I can change my login screen? Now I use the Human default theme, and I would like to change in something more KDE-Like"!
[11:05] <ilba7r> NevidS, do you have gdm running? or kdm?
[11:05] <NevidS> how can i konw it?
[11:05] <ilba7r> did you install kdm
[11:06] <ilba7r> i guess the human default mean you are running gdm
[11:06] <ilba7r> in a terminal type which kdm
[11:06] <NevidS> ok, on synaptic I see that kdm it was installated.
[11:07] <ilba7r> ok you can type in a terminal sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[11:07] <NevidS>  /usr/bin/kdm
[11:07] <ilba7r> and select it as your display manager. This will give you what you want
[11:07] <NevidS> ilba7r: ok now I try
[11:08] <ilba7r> unless you prefer gdm
[11:08] <ilba7r> for gdm to see what is available type in a terminal sudo gdmsetup
[11:10] <NevidS> ok I do dpkg-reconfigure kdm I config kdm
[11:10] <NevidS> now I try to restart the session
[11:10] <ilba7r> you need to restart kdm first
[11:10] <ilba7r> sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm
[11:11] <NevidS> why?
[11:11] <ilba7r> for you are still running gdm
[11:11] <ilba7r> try it if it does not work automatically than
[11:11] <ilba7r> reboot is the easiest
[11:11] <vge> can somebody recommend good ftp cliend thats not kbear?
[11:12] <NevidS> ok, I'm going to do sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm
[11:12] <NevidS> before
[11:12] <kavit> how does one reconfigure alsa? alsaconf isnt installed on (k)ubuntu
[11:13] <NevidS> ilba7r: mmm... after sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm the terminal said me:   sudo /etc/init.d/start kdm
[11:13] <NevidS> command not found
[11:13] <ilba7r> nevids log out and in again
[11:13] <NevidS> ok
[11:13] <ilba7r> see if it is already running
[11:13] <tictric> NevidS: just hit <ctrl><alt><back> that'll do it
[11:14] <kavit> NevidS: try /etc/init.d/kdm start
[11:14] <tictric> well, that's the long way then
[11:14] <tictric> NevidS: and?
[11:15] <NevidS> ok, I have restart and nothing is change!
[11:15] <NevidS> the Human theme login it apperas
[11:15] <ilba7r> nevids i think you need to reboot
[11:15] <ilba7r> kavit had the right command line though
[11:15] <kavit> NevidS: try /etc/init.d/kdm start
[11:15] <ilba7r> but i think you need to stop gdm first
[11:15] <ilba7r> it might be still running
[11:16] <NevidS> kavit: I have allready do it
[11:16] <NevidS> oh!
[11:16] <kavit> NevidS: hang on a minute
[11:16] <ilba7r> NevidS, i gave you an incorrect command it is /etc/init.d/kdm start
[11:16] <ilba7r> as kavit said
[11:17] <NevidS> this time termianl said: Starting K Display Manager: kdm.
[11:17] <ilba7r> nevids try stop gdm than
[11:17] <ilba7r> /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:17] <ilba7r> just in case it is still running
[11:18] <NevidS> ok, termail say * Stopping GNOME Display Manager...   * GNOME Display Manager not running
[11:19] <ilba7r> nevid ok try restarting x now. logout and in again
[11:19] <tech9iner> honestly chapz.. perhaps on me oldest most obsolete lappys.. i.e.: panasonic toughbooks Pll 266/64 or 128ram that maybe unbuntu running xfce4 or fluxbox would be best over loading up even lean version of kubuntu eh?.. any/all feedback appreciated muchly..
[11:19] <NevidS> I try to restart the session or I have to reboot all the machine?
[11:19] <kavit> NevidS: type startx at the command line
[11:20] <wedgeV> trappist: thanks, but i cant get mysql to run here, the mysql server wont start
[11:21] <NevidS> kavit: I did it, and now?
[11:21] <ilba7r> kavit do you need to type startx after starting the display manager kdm and gdm?
[11:21] <wedgeV> ilba7r: no
[11:22] <ilba7r> though so wedgeV
[11:23] <NevidS> ok, I try to restart the session
[11:25] <NevidS> the same: that damned Gnome theme it appears
[11:26] <ilba7r> NevidS, reboot
[11:26] <NevidS> ok
[11:26] <ilba7r> the gdm daemon will restart automatically even if you stop it
[11:31] <ilba7r> did it work NevidS ?
[11:32] <NevidS> Good Shot guys!!!!
[11:32] <javb> hi, i just installed Kubuntu 5.10 ... and i uncommented some repositories in sources.list ... but i cant find firefox 1.5 on the updates...
[11:32] <ilba7r> great
[11:32] <NevidS> :-D
[11:32] <ilba7r> javb firefox 1.5 is not in breezy repos
[11:32] <nalioth> javb: you'll be looking for a long time (or until dapper releases)
[11:32] <javb> is there any extra resopsitorie that i have to add? im new using kubuntu...
[11:32] <ilba7r> !ff1.5
[11:32] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:33] <Blippe> let's party like it is 1999!
[11:33] <sampan> O_O
[11:34] <ilba7r> nalioth, truned out to be the fglrx driver. falling back to the default gdmflexiserver works fine
[11:35] <pcnerd37> Hello.  Im resizing my windows partition so that i can dual boot with kubuntu.  What partition should I use, Ext2 or Ext3?
[11:35] <nalioth> ilba7r: cool
[11:35] <imy_> pcnerd37: ext3
[11:35] <pcnerd37> ok
[11:35] <pcnerd37> what is the difference anyway?
[11:35] <JohnFlux_> pcnerd37: ext3 has journalising
[11:35] <JohnFlux_> [[ext3] ] 
[11:36] <pcnerd37> ah
[11:36] <nalioth> pcnerd37: ext2 and 3 are the same except the 3 had journaling
[11:36] <pcnerd37> what exactly is journaling?
[11:36] <JohnFlux_> that means that if the computer crashes, it doesn't have to spend ages checking the disk
[11:36] <nalioth> pcnerd37: it takes notes on the state of the drive so if something happens to the power, the data isnt totally lost
[11:36] <JohnFlux_> when you boot up again i mean
[11:37] <pcnerd37> ah, sounds like a great feature
[11:37] <JohnFlux_> indeed
[11:38] <pcnerd37> thanks for the help.  Im sure i will be back once i get kubuntu installed for more help
[11:38] <Blippe> now it just check every 30th time!
[11:49] <tictric> besides that I can't use the new kernel because of the unavailability of restricted-modules for my nvidia card flight3 looks fine so far
[11:51] <cinder> hi all!!!
[11:52] <cinder> why I cannot play mp3 files in amarok or xmms??
[11:52] <crimsun> xmms plays them just fine
[11:53] <crimsun> w/ amarok, depending on the engine used, you may need to install packages
[11:53] <crimsun> i.e., gstreamer0.8-mad
[11:54] <_root> hey
[11:54] <cinder> crimsun: ok!!
[11:54] <_root> someone who could help me out_
[11:54] <cinder> lets try...
[11:54] <iso> yea
[11:55] <iso> :p
[11:55] <m_tadeu> hi....what is the "HTTP Cach Cleaner"?
[11:56] <isodude> argh
[11:56] <isodude> ah, onto my feets now
[11:56] <isodude> naw, had some problems with my Xserver.
[11:56] <isodude> Seems like amd64-agp is missing..
[11:57] <isodude> shouldn't it be there when installing kernel-2.6.12-10?
[11:57] <isodude> I only have intel-agp in the module tree ://
[11:58] <isodude> Someone who has a idea of what I could do to fix this?
[12:00] <wedgeV> seems like the latest installation steps didnt happen here, is there a way to run them now?
[12:01] <wedgeV> eg: loopback isnt configured... i dont know what else is missing