[12:05] Good afternoon *now* [12:05] kiko, that list isn't a list of headings, or a menu [12:05] which is why both "distribution management" and "any other aspect of Launchpad" aren't capitalized [12:06] "Malone", "Rosetta", and "Calendar" are capitalized because they're proper nouns [12:07] jordi: https://gnunet.org/svn/ [12:07] jordi: I'll go sleep now [12:07] good night everyone === mick__ [n=mick@adsl-153-150-159.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad [12:08] okay mpt [12:10] in other news, https://staging.ubuntu.com/ isn't working for me [12:11] oh, now it loads === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Burgwork [n=corey@S010600131016cf6f.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [12:16] please contrast http://bugzilla.gnome.org/describeuser.cgi and https://launchpad.net/people/cburger/+assignedbugs (the default view for bugs) === Kinnison [n=dsilvers@haddenham.pepperfish.net] has joined #launchpad [12:16] the gnome bugzilla one is actually useful for a large number of uses, the malone one for only one [12:17] it's also a custom gnome bugzilla hack [12:17] cprov, e a? [12:17] that is fine [12:17] regardless of where it comes fomr [12:18] I was just remarking on it -- that it's not in bugzilla upstream [12:18] not disagreeing [12:18] kiko: email [12:19] kiko: going down to discuss it [12:19] u [12:22] 3@#!@#@! [12:32] Burgwork, I'm designing that page today [01:20] mpt, you make my heart sing === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089EBD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.96.214.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Alinux [n=Ubuntu@p54A39B1B.dip0.t-ipconnect.de] has joined #launchpad [03:02] hi stub [03:03] mpt: Morning [03:03] stub, currently staging.launchpad.net redirects to staging.ubuntu.com. It would make more sense if the opposite was true. Is that something you can fix, or is it a matter for RT? [03:03] It is a matter for rt [03:04] ok [03:04] If you are sending in a request, make sure to mention librarian.staging.launchpad.net and shipit.staging.launchpad.net (I'm not sure what URLs they are on off the top of my head) [03:05] And that I'll reconfigure the staging launchpad instance once it is done if necessary [03:13] stub, what should librarian.staging.launchpad.net do? [03:13] currently it says "these aren't the droids you're looking for" over HTTP, and (like staging.launchpad.net) gives me broken ShipIt over HTTPS [03:14] and librarian.launchpad.net is broken in different ways (hello, Warthogs Bugzilla!) [03:15] mpt: librarian is only available over http, and that 404 is the correct response for the root url [03:15] So it looks like librarian.staging.launchpad.net is working on the correct domain. [03:20] shipit.staging.launchpad.net and shipit.staging.ubuntu.com don't work at all [03:20] Is there a ShipIt staging server at all? [03:21] If ShipIt is part of Launchpad under the hood, I suppose that's a meaningless question, it's just that ShipIt on staging isn't accessible [03:30] IIRC just use the right paths and it will work [03:31] ah, https://staging.ubuntu.com/shipit/ [03:33] wow, this is a mess [04:24] mpt: https://shipit.staging.canonical.com/ is the current shipit one [04:24] (Just for variety) [04:28] mpt: Can you please bounce me the rt response you got back? I need the rt number. [04:28] 2073 [04:30] Ta [04:42] stub, I corrected item #2 [04:42] in that https://librarian... should redirect to http://librarian... because the Librarian does only HTTP [04:50] *sigh* [04:51] The two most recently registered products in Launchpad are "WordPress 2.0" (we already have WordPress) and "WordPress 2.0 Thai L10N" === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #launchpad [05:09] More from the bad data dept.: https://launchpad.net/people/?name=.name&searchfor=peopleonly [05:14] mpt, aside from teams, does LP have any plans for saying "I know this person" and for integrating web of trust infromation? [05:15] Burgundavia, not as far as I know [05:15] what would that be useful for? [05:15] mpt, for the "everything but wipe your ass"-side of LP [05:15] iirc under the hood there's FOAF that could be used [05:16] Burgundavia, why does http://doc.ubuntu.com/ include Kubuntu release notes but not Ubuntu release notes? [05:16] mpt, no idea, likely a bug in the build scripts, ping mdke_ [05:17] How similar are the Ubuntu and Kubuntu release notes? [05:18] mpt, no idea, never looked at any Kubuntu docs [05:22] hmm, quite similar [05:22] except the Ubuntu release notes are much harder to find :-) [05:34] Burgundavia, your appraisal of https://wiki.launchpad.canonical.com/BugzillaImportProcess/DocumentationProduct would be useful [05:35] I just created an ubuntu-docs Launchpad project, to group the various UDP products [05:36] mpt, the general gist is good, but our products are likely to change each release, so we need the ability to edit them [05:37] As I understand it, you can do that if you're a member of the ubuntu-doc team [05:37] can we restrict that only admins? [05:37] since that's now the owner of the project and all the products [05:37] can it do the auto forwarding to our mailing list? [05:37] Well, you could create an ubuntu-doc-admins team, but then why do you have the ubuntu-doc team? [05:38] ok [05:39] mpt, allowing access level control based on rights within a group might be a nice thing for the future [05:41] jamesh, ping === carlos [n=carlos@238.Red-83-55-105.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@Gaa8f.g.pppool.de] has joined #launchpad [06:13] Good morning carlos === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad [06:20] mpt: pong [06:23] jamesh, I mailed you to say that the BugzillaImport/DocumentationProduct page was finished [06:40] mpt: I'll see if I can get things setup for an import soon. I'll do a test import locally beforehand === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-130-160.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === ritvik [n=ritvik@61.11.61.58] has joined #launchpad === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #launchpad [07:32] mpt_: started running the conversion, but it seems to have hung on the 4th bug for some reason [07:34] I'll try again in a sec === mick__ [n=mick@adsl-149-3-157.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad [07:58] mpt_: all bugs with product=Documentation have been migrated. It is just doing the bug duplicate run [07:58] I'll get the shipit bugs done next [08:07] thanks jamesh [08:10] mpt_: the 5 shipit bugs should be in as well now. [08:10] could you annonce it to the ubuntu-docs list? [08:11] it should all be complete now. [08:11] https://launchpad.net/people/bugzilla-importer <- 8220 karma :) === mick__ [n=mick@adsl-2-49-19.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad [08:43] hey mpt_ [08:44] there was already a product/ubuntu-doc [08:44] [04:35:22] < mpt> I just created an ubuntu-docs Launchpad project, to group the various UDP products [08:51] also there is something strange going on here: https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc-lists === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [08:51] there is already an ubuntu-doc person, and the Ubuntu Technical Board appears to be a member of ubuntu-doc-lists (??) [08:55] mdke_: project != product === mpt__ [n=mpt@222-154-152-187.jetstream.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [08:56] jamesh, where do i find the project, and what is its purpose? [08:56] i see it [08:57] mdke_: https://launchpad.net/projects/ubuntu-doc [08:57] ubuntu-docs, even [08:57] the existing ubuntu-doc product is now associated with that project [08:58] so https://launchpad.net/projects/ubuntu-docs/ubuntu-doc is the same as https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc ? [08:58] yeah [08:58] ok [08:58] any idea about the ubuntu-doc-lists thing? [08:59] https://launchpad.net/people/ubuntu-doc-lists was created as an owner for bugs previously owned by ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com in bugzilla [08:59] and the TB is the only member? [08:59] can that be moved to people/ubuntu-doc? [08:59] and as the maintainer for the packages owned by ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com [09:00] we don't currently have a way to merge teams through the web [09:00] but file a bug or support request if you want them merged [09:01] jamesh, i'll rely on you: do you think the ubuntu-doc-lists team is useful, given the existence of the ubuntu-doc team? [09:01] i still don't understand LP enough to judge [09:01] mdke_: it is essentially there as a way to direct bug mail through to the list [09:02] ok... [09:02] mdke_: same use as the ubuntu-doc@lists.ubuntu.com user in bugzilla was [09:02] can ubuntu-doc be used for that? [09:02] that's for you to answer [09:02] argh [09:02] if they are effectively the same thing, then we should probably work out a way to merge them [09:03] I don't know whether ubuntu-doc can be used to put bug mail to the mailing list [09:04] mdke_: if the email address for the team was set to the list address, then it could [09:04] but you can't set the list address as the team email right now, since ubuntu-doc-lists owns the address [09:04] ah, well we can do that === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089EBD3.dip.t-dialin.net] has left #launchpad ["Leaving"] [09:04] right [09:04] jamesh, ok so I file a bug, then when its done, we add the address [09:05] mdke_: or get whoever does the merge to migrate the email address [09:06] jamesh, ok even better [09:07] mpt__: https://launchpad.net/people/jamesh <- apparently I have an "OpenGPG key" :) [09:08] jamesh, one more minor thing. There are 2 open bugs assigned to me in bugzilla, but none in LP, any ideas? [09:09] http://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced&short_desc_type=allwordssubstr&short_desc=&long_desc_type=substring&long_desc=&bug_file_loc_type=allwordssubstr&bug_file_loc=&status_whiteboard_type=allwordssubstr&status_whiteboard=&keywords_type=allwords&keywords=&resolution=DUPLICATE&resolution=---&emailassigned_to1=1&emailtype1=substring&email1=matthew.east&emailassigned_to2=1&emailtype2=substring&email2=&bugidtype=include&bug_id=&votes=&c [09:09] holy cow [09:09] sorry [09:10] merge request filed at bug 29177 [09:10] Malone bug 29177: "please merge people/ubuntu-doc and people/ubuntu-doc-lists" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29177 === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-153-49.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-57.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad [09:47] mdke_: both of those bugs are imported: https://launchpad.net/products/ubuntu-doc/+bug/29143 and https://launchpad.net/products/distro-about-page/+bug/29167 [09:47] Malone bug 29143: "broken links to screenshots in "Getting Started"" Fix req. for: ubuntu-doc (upstream), Severity: Minor, Assigned to: Matthew East, Status: Confirmed [09:49] mdke_: you can use the link https://launchpad.net/malone/bugtrackers/ubuntu-bugzilla/$bugzillaid to find the LP bug(s) corresponding to a particular bugzilla.ubuntu.com bug === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [09:56] jamesh, ok, so the assigned field wasn't maintained, i can just reassign them [09:56] hmm they are assigned to me [09:59] dunno why i missed them, sorry [10:00] mdke_: what do you mean? Both of those bugs are listed as being assigned to "Matthew East" [10:01] jamesh, sorry for wasting your time. I saw a sidebar earlier with "Your bugs" and it didn't have them in, but now i see I must have been mistaken [10:01] thanks very much for your help on this [10:02] mdke_: one of those two bugs is listed here: https://launchpad.net/people/mdke/+assignedbugs [10:02] the other one is in the "Fix Committed" state (equivalent of PENDINGUPLOAD), so not shown [10:03] yep [10:04] jamesh, i've thought of one more question. Where a bug is subscribed to by me, and by a group of which I am a member, which goes to a mailing list, is there any way (otherthan procmail on my side or something) that I can avoid getting two copies of bugmail? === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-57.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad === mick__ [n=mick@adsl-10-43-66.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad [10:19] mdke_, what you probably want to do is set the mailing list as the "Initial Bug Contact" for the ubuntu-docs project [10:19] That way the mailing list gets notified of new bugs, and not about everything that happens to every bug [10:19] yeah absolutely [10:20] mpt, will that work for bugs reported on ubuntu/distros/ubuntu-docs? [10:21] or do both need to be done separately [10:22] ubuntu-docs is a distro?? [10:22] wait [10:22] I don't understand that question [10:22] What's ubuntu/distros/ubuntu-docs? [10:22] sorry i'll rephrase [10:23] it's distros/ubuntu i meant [10:23] if somebody reportes a bug in ubuntu under the ubuntu-docs package [10:23] which is what will normally happen [10:23] will setting the "Initial Bug Contact" for the ubuntu-docs project mean that those bugs go to ubuntu-doc for QA? === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-153-49.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [10:27] Sorry mdke_, I missed your question [10:28] ok [10:28] mpt, if somebody reportes a bug in ubuntu under the ubuntu-docs package, will setting the "Initial Bug Contact" for the ubuntu-docs project mean that those bugs go to ubuntu-doc for QA? [10:28] oh, suck [10:28] It looks like projects don't have initial bug contacts yet :-/ [10:28] only products do [10:28] so, here for example [10:28] ok [10:28] will that apply then to bugs reported in Ubuntu too? [10:29] every new bug report for that product will mail that person [10:29] what do you mean by "reported in Ubuntu"? [10:29] Bugs about anything in Ubuntu won't mail that list [10:29] just bugs in the ubuntu-doc product [10:29] i mean a bug reported in the ubuntu source package ubuntu-docs [10:29] ohhh [10:29] no, packages are separate [10:29] because that is the only place we release our product [10:29] so everyone will file it in Ubuntu [10:29] teehee, what fun [10:30] ;? [10:30] I get an oops when setting the Initial Bug Contact in the ubuntu-doc product too [10:30] https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+bugs [10:30] OOPS-20A197 [10:31] report a bug, https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bugs [10:31] ok [10:31] what, there's no Initial Bug Contact link at the package page [10:31] this sucks [10:31] could it be https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-docs/+subscribe ? [10:32] yyyyes [10:32] so why does it have different text === southfoxargentin [n=fox@200-122-8-57.dsl.prima.net.ar] has joined #launchpad [10:32] boh [10:32] ok, report that as a bug too [10:32] it hurts my brain [10:33] ok the oops is bug 29181 [10:33] Malone bug 29181: "Can't change Initial Bug Contact for product/ubuntu-doc" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29181 === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [10:34] you also release docs in Kubuntu, though, right? [10:34] and in Edubuntu? [10:35] different docs [10:35] oh yeah, sometimes the same ones too [10:36] mpt, lack of Initial Bug Contact is at bug 29182, you might have to clear it up for me, I'm not sure if I understand the problem correctly [10:36] Malone bug 29182: "Can't change the Initial Bug Contact on a source package" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29182 [10:45] OOPS reports rock === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.97.95.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@195-23-238-164.nr.ip.pt] has joined #launchpad === mick__ [n=mick@adsl-153-192-216.mia.bellsouth.net] has joined #launchpad === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.97.95.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad === Kinnison waves hello === jbailey [n=jbailey@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [11:22] How do I tweak the list of packages for which malone sends me email? [11:22] It seems to amount to about half of the packages I was interested in 6 months ago. [11:23] So, I suspect that at some point a list was compiled, but I'm not sure how to find it or update it. === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [11:34] jbailey, the person to ask about bug contacts is bradb [11:34] I thought I knew how they worked, but discovered in the past few hours that I don't [11:39] =) [11:39] Cool. I'll catch him when I'm back in his timezone. Thanks, mpt. === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #launchpad [11:43] Merge to devel/launchpad/: [r=spiv] Fix bug 4838, make it possible to add comments while signing the email with a non-registered (in Launchpad) GPG key. Also fix bug 1014, get rid of BugTaskFactory (r3018: Bjorn Tillenius) === BjornT_ [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #launchpad === gneuman [n=gneuman@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:14] good morning! === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad [12:17] daf: ping [12:17] ddaa: pong [12:18] my optional-branch-title branch on chinstrap is out of date with my work here [12:18] which is compounded by the fact I have been hit with a nasty bug in recent bzr [12:19] so, I'm going to try to publish my pending changes today, it make take a little while [12:19] * it may take [12:19] oh, right [12:19] I just merged from it [12:19] shall I just wait and merge it again later? [12:20] I think you should wait for the latest stuff before starting to modify it. [12:21] Merging multiple times should not harm. [12:21] ok === ddaa goes and wrangle with bzr === lfittl [n=lfittl@83-65-242-100.dynamic.xdsl-line.inode.at] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === jinty [n=jinty@dslb-084-059-006-181.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #launchpad === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.131.46] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === thisfred [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad [01:15] cprov: any idea what's going on in bug 6712? [01:15] Malone bug 6712: "Oops when trying to access "Resulting Binaries"" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/6712 [01:15] daf: I'll look [01:15] ta [01:16] ddaa: any luck at unwedging bzr? [01:16] not really [01:16] making some progress though [01:16] cool [01:17] never had to do bzr unwedging before... [01:17] it's a good thing and a bad thing [01:17] it's a good thing because it does not happen often [01:17] it's a bad thing because I do not know what to do... [01:17] yeah [01:26] daf: uhm .. 6712 is a dup of 6635, which is fixed in my branch, will update the bug comment/status [01:29] cprov: great, thanks [01:30] daf: you're welcome. I'd appeciate your further investigation on it, binarypackagerelease API is utterly broken in many senses === stub [n=stub@gb.ja.97.95.revip.asianet.co.th] has joined #launchpad [01:31] the latest fetcher optimisations are fantastic (well, once you have the bugfix...) that makes bzr pull i/o bound most of the time! [01:31] cprov: heh :) [01:32] ddaa: oooh, nice [01:32] if I were you, I'd wait until 0.7... or at least until j-a-meinel bugfix gets audited and merged [01:32] daf: Hope "heh" means: "Yes, I'll help you on this" ;) [01:33] cprov: sure, as long as you don't let me forget about it [01:33] cprov: maybe we should open a bug [01:35] daf: feel free to do it, but believe, we won't forget this bug, it's so annoying, it brakes soyuz magic === carlos -> lunch [01:35] see you later === kiko [n=kiko@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [01:35] cprov: ok -- maybe I'll be doing some Soyuz hacking next week [01:36] daf: good to know [01:36] hey guys [01:36] how's it going [01:37] querytastic [01:41] kiko: you should paste your query traceback hack to the list === darkStar [n=raptoid@81.213.131.144] has joined #launchpad === ddaa retracts what he said about bzr fetcher optimisations [01:44] daf, it is such a hack :-) [01:44] yeah, but it's not like it's going to get merged [01:44] and it was really useful for optimising malone [01:45] it could actually be added as a special flag [01:45] but la la la I did not say that [01:45] matsubara, do you have a passport in so carlos? [01:46] file a wishlist bug on having a proper query traceback flag [01:46] we can use the hack in the meantime [01:46] kiko: yep, but it's expired [01:47] matsubara, that's fine. can you get me photocopies by tomorrow? [01:48] kiko: yep. === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad === kiko yawns === heyko [n=heyko@tor/session/x-d9632de19174182b] has joined #launchpad [01:59] cprov, how's it going? I have a little bit more email and then I am free, want to come down? [01:59] kiko: yes, I'm overriding binaries atm [02:00] jamesh, are you around? === SteveA [n=steve@george.kkhotels.co.uk] has joined #launchpad [02:13] stub: hello [02:14] stub: next week, i want to polish up kiko's launchpad celebs improvements. what i plan to do is... [02:15] 1. on first use of a celeb that is "fixed" (like the admin team) I'll remember its id. When full crowd stuff lands, that will mean that no further queries will be needed for security/team lookups. [02:15] 2. on first use in a transaction/request that needs more than the id, I'll cache the object [02:15] in a thread local launchbag like thing [02:16] 3. caches are cleared at transaction/request boundaries [02:16] SteveA, get the fuck off IRC dude. it's VACATION. [02:16] jesus christ [02:17] kiko: gotta do something while waiting for my hair to dry ;-) [02:17] daf: haha, looks like just pulling with the fixed code does it... now running "bzr check" to be sure it's sane. It should take a few hours. [02:17] SteveA, fox-hunting? [02:17] campden market is calling me [02:18] SteveA: yo [02:18] daf: i.e. the branch will prolly not be uploaded today... [02:20] it is surprising that sqlobject isn't cacheing the celebs, though [02:20] at least, through a single transaction [02:20] so i guess i'll look into that too === thisfred [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad [02:28] SteveA: You need poker dude. === Nafallo_away is now known as Nafallo [02:34] i'm outta here! === BjornT [n=bjorn@clt-84-32-240-183.dtiltas.lt] has joined #launchpad [02:38] Damn, my newer Powerbook is making noises [02:39] whoa, hard drive might be dying [02:42] kiko: review Kamion's patch? [02:45] ddaa, me? [02:46] I'm not an appointed reviewer [02:46] ddaa, I bless you with the power of reviewing kamion's patch. [02:47] rs=kiko? r=ddaa? [02:47] sure. [02:47] both [02:47] ack === ddaa checks the latest changes === mdke_ is now known as mdke === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #launchpad === seb128 [n=seb128@ubuntu/member/seb128] has joined #launchpad [03:28] connection refused on launchpad.net ... known issue? [03:28] nope. [03:28] does it work for oyu? [03:28] you [03:28] nope. [03:28] k [03:28] thanks for looking at it :) [03:28] it appears to be as dead as elvis [03:28] here too [03:29] kiko: yeah, but the king was cool at least :p [03:29] launchpad is cool too === heyko_ [n=heyko@tor/session/x-9bf116c79916e38b] has joined #launchpad [03:30] seb128, just WAIT until I see you in person [03:30] kiko: coming to the distro sprint? :) === heyko_ is now known as heyko [03:30] I will be there the week before === siretart [i=siretart@ubuntu/member/siretart] has joined #launchpad [03:31] ah, so with some luck we will not meet this time, good for me :) [03:31] if soyuz crashes and burns I may be in london forever though [03:31] ah ah [03:31] kiko: arrange traps and stuff... "home alone 666" or something :-) [03:33] launchpad is back === mdke sees elvis === seb128 sees launchpad [03:36] kiko: thank you for the quick fixing :) [03:36] Znarl is de man [03:38] how often does launchpad import package details? [03:38] kiko: I sent a merge request to pqm yesterday, and nothing seems to have happened... so I sent it again a few hours ago, and now the second one is in the queue (suggesting that the first one was indeed received), but still nothing happens. [03:39] lp gone again? === GoRoDeK [n=gorodek@p5083E50C.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #launchpad [03:39] it's a cscvs merge request, it's not supposed to take forever to push... [03:41] It's weird, I seem to be typing "-h" or "help" after every other command I type... [03:41] mostly bzr ones [03:41] persistent freudian slip? [03:42] and weird things like "bzr log | help" === stgraber [i=steph@xeon.stargate-server.com] has joined #launchpad === matsubara is now known as matsubara-lunch [04:17] can anyone access shipit.ubuntu.com? [04:19] "Error establishing an encrypted connection to shipit.ubuntu.com. Error Code: -12195." [04:19] seb128 : What browser? [04:19] same for me in firefox. [04:20] kiko: works for me (also firefox) [04:21] Kinnison, was sftp://chinstrap/home/warthogs/archives/dsilvers/launchpad/buildd-fixes landed? [04:21] it's unfortunate that it doesn't work consistently. [04:22] kiko : Does https://lists.ubuntu.com work for you? [04:22] Znarl: epiphany-browser [04:22] lists.ubuntu.com works fine [04:22] sorry to disturb, anyone know when launchpad will be freed [04:22] Znarl, yes. [04:23] kiko : Can you try again now? [04:24] kiko: Some of those patches were merged into the branch cprov took before xmas, the others I have a fresh branch I'm preparing for merging [04:24] kiko: I can probably set that branch pushing actually === Kinnison goes to look [04:26] Yep, I can push the updates === Kinnison runs bzr [04:26] Znarl, sweet, it works. [04:27] what did you change? [04:27] Kinnison, great. [04:27] Kinnison, should cprov merge it in or.. ? [04:27] kiko: Naah, I can get it to pqm [04:27] kiko: I just wanna do a test-merge against head now that pqm is updating chinstrap so I can be sure it won't testfail [04:28] sure. [04:28] kiko : I turned off some extra openssl checks on the server. [04:28] Znarl, okay, cool. [04:28] kiko: everything set for your flights? [04:28] I believe, once the images and css load from shipit I can turn them back on again. [04:28] salgado-lunch, do you have an ETA for fixing up the shipit dependencies on www.ubuntu.com? [04:29] Znarl, sure. [04:29] Kinnison, yes, we fly out sunday at 23:30 [04:30] arrive in london at 13:00 so will be around and ready at, say 16:00 [04:30] kiko: so, one last suicide bike-ride before you fly? [04:30] kiko: I'll aim to arrive around 13:00 too, then we all be ready at the same time [04:31] yes, one 110km ride tomorrow [04:31] great. === Nafallo is now known as Nafallo_away [04:33] ddaa, great work on kamion's branch [04:33] ddaa, I see only one request now in pqm -- what do you think? [04:33] love thy patch submitters [04:34] I think yesterday request is still being processed [04:34] hmmm [04:34] no pqm mail to you yet? [04:34] nope [04:35] I also decided that pqm just crossed my threshold for "unbearably painful hoop to jump through" [04:36] you are lucky. [04:36] no, I have a very high threshold [04:37] I agree with all the theory about automated unit testing and such [04:37] it's great [04:37] and I'm willing to accept a LARGE amount of pain to put it in practice. [04:42] PQM causes so much pain it makes you glow in the dark [04:43] to be fair, much of the pain is related to test suite breakage [04:43] but it's compounded by [04:43] * lack of early feedback, and nearly useless monitoring facility [04:44] * no resilience to test suite breakage [04:44] both items have been known forever [04:44] in particular the second one has a specced fix [04:45] did I miss something about why it's still up in the air? [04:46] bug 2732 [04:46] Malone bug 2732: "Adding a poll with a finish date before start date causes error" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Gabriel Neuman, Status: Confirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/2732 [04:47] is that pqm-related??? [04:48] it was me asking for a hint because gneuman doesn't give me enough information [04:52] ddaa, by the way, did you review the patch I sent you to fix add bazaar branch? [04:52] I think I lost the message [04:52] hu... I looked at it quickly, noticed a few things to comment on, then forgot about it [04:53] I flagged in the mail client too, but I did not get any round tuits to go over flagged messages... [04:53] dude I did that patch just to cheer you up [04:53] and now you tell me this [04:53] @#!@$! [04:53] thanks to giving optional-branch-title away, I should be able to do that RSN. [04:53] well [04:53] thanks [04:54] Thank you for spreading my load. [04:55] sorry, I'm bad at multitasking... [04:58] kiko: it's really important for me to review patches, but that thing landed on my lap while I was scrambling to do spread the baz2bzr load... [04:58]