[12:00] <tony__> mwe: hmm my changes have dissapeared... thats wierd!
[12:00] <Flogiston> should i delete the apache default?
[12:00] <sobersabre> mobodo have you certainly gone through the manual ?
[12:00] <sethk> Khisanth, my firefox works fine.  I downloaded it from the firefox site, though, it isn't a package, which has a down side
[12:00] <DoctorMO> mwe: I've got to admit I'm not impressed with apt-get no one knows how to use it
[12:00] <mwe> DoctorMO: it's not even 5 months old
[12:00] <tatters> Doe I have to create a root account and login with that to get mysql-server working with ubuntu
[12:00] <mwe> DoctorMO: then use another distro
[12:00] <navarone> DoctorMO, I use it...and it works for me
[12:00] <mwe> DoctorMO: I think it rocks.
[12:00] <mobodo> sobersabre: the manual covers only windows
[12:01] <NickIsMagic> argh
[12:01] <Khisanth> sethk: you know, I never should have believe those people that told me ubuntu was better -_-
[12:01] <DoctorMO> but I'm downloading it now anyway
[12:01] <paulproteus|lapt> DoctorMO: I know how to use it.  Maybe I can help you.
[12:01] <sethk> Khisanth, nothing is "better" or not better, things are only more or less appropriate for a particular use
[12:01] <plett> i'm looking to buy a 54g wifi card that supports WPA-PSK and will run on my Breezy laptop, preferably without using ndiswrapper. what would people recommend? preferably mini-pci, but pcmcia would also work.
[12:01] <mwe> DoctorMO: and because you don't know how to use it doesn't mean no one does
[12:01] <mobodo> sobersabre: when I start up the computer it says it sees the raid disk and it's fine
[12:01] <sobersabre> mobodo usually, when using hardware RAID, there's some kind of preparement that should be done before the 'formatting'
[12:01] <DoctorMO> Adding the wine repositorie to the sources.list file ... no one knows
[12:01] <NickIsMagic> Ubuntu told me to put "boot /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc3" inside grub. But its saying that root=/dev/hdc3 is invalid!
[12:01] <sobersabre> mobodo have you 'initialized' the RAID device ?
[12:01] <paulproteus|lapt> mikeym: By policy, neither Ubuntu nor Debian has download mirrors for security updates.
[12:01] <Khisanth> sethk: thus far it is the worst of any OS I have used and that includes windows me :)
[12:02] <tatters> plett look for anything with rt2500 chipset...they work for me
[12:02] <DoctorMO> mwe: well you don't or you would have been more help
[12:02] <mobodo> sobersabre: initialized, as in formatted?
[12:02] <sethk> Khisanth, perhaps it isn't the right o/s for you.  It definitely isn't for everyone
[12:02] <NickIsMagic> anyone can help me?
[12:02] <rysiek> sethk: hmmm: open("/etc/shadow", O_RDONLY)           = -1 EACCES (Permission denied)
[12:02] <rysiek> but...
[12:02] <tony__> canges in menu.lst for grub : it seems to dissapear everytim i add it and update.grub,,, wierd?
[12:02] <plett> tatters: thanks. is the driver for that in the stock kernel?
[12:02] <bandfm> What the heck.
[12:02] <DoctorMO> paulproteus|lapt: adding 'deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt breezy' to my apt-list gives me an error
[12:02] <Khisanth> sethk: well when someone installs a browser such as firefox, no one expects running the "firefox" command to do nothing but hang
[12:02] <paulproteus|lapt> rysiek: Sounds like you meant to "sudo" that command.
[12:02] <tatters> yup
[12:02] <sobersabre> mobodo, 1st you make the controller take over the HDDs, it is called to initialize the RAID.
[12:03] <xored_> pashaw: how to remove the old drivers properly ? deleting the aliasis in modprobe P?
[12:03] <glacious> crimsun: see what i mean?  RADEON(0): *Mode "1280x1024@60": 157.5 MHz (scaled from 0.0 MHz), 91.1 kHz, 85.0 Hz  <--- 85 is not in the config file, but (**) denotes 'from config file'
[12:03] <paulproteus|lapt> DoctorMO: I see.  What error does it give you?
[12:03] <bandfm> My screen is now scrambled with the liveCD, too.
[12:03] <sethk> Khisanth, I haven't had that experience with firefox
[12:03] <rysiek> paul: nope
[12:03] <sobersabre> then you partition it and only then you format partitions.
[12:03] <bandfm> It worked before I installed it, then.
[12:03] <bandfm> though*
[12:03] <mwe> DoctorMO: maybe you should add the right line like it says on winehq
[12:03] <DoctorMO> E: Malformed line 27 in source list /etc/apt/sources.list (dist parse)
[12:03] <Stormx2> whats a good ext3 viewer for windows?
[12:03] <Foller> hey, someone can gimme a little help? how can i access my NTFS partitions from ubuntu?
[12:03] <sethk> rysiek, possibly something is running suid, and is now suid to the wrong id?
[12:03] <DoctorMO> mwe: that dosn't work either
[12:03] <mobodo> sobersabre: I'm pretty sure I've done the initialization
[12:03] <mwe> DoctorMO: deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[12:03] <sobersabre> mobodo so... which stages have you been through
[12:03] <rysiek> sethk: possible
[12:03] <sethk> rysiek, because you said that you checked and shadow has the correct permissions
[12:03] <mobodo> sobersabre: that's done from the BIOS, right?
[12:03] <NickIsMagic> someone helps in this channel?
[12:03] <tatters> works out the box with WEP only had to edit interfaces.conf to get it to use wpa
[12:03] <mwe> DoctorMO: then sudo apt-get update and then install wine
[12:03] <glacious> crimsun: and i changed it to 60-75, still is @ 85hz =(
[12:04] <rysiek> sethk: -rw-r-----  1 root shadow 1161 2006-01-19 23:29 /etc/shadow
[12:04] <sethk> Foller, you mount it.  If it is there at the time you install, it will be already mounted.
[12:04] <sobersabre> mobodo, usually the enablement is done via something like BIOS, and it should take several minutes at least.
[12:04] <bandfm> sigh
[12:04] <crimsun> glacious: then you need to force a specific modeline
[12:04] <sethk> rysiek, that matches mine
[12:04] <mobodo> hmmm, no, it was nearly instant
[12:04] <rysiek> sethk: the same on the other system
[12:04] <mobodo> it's probably not initialized then :)
[12:04] <max> what time is it?
[12:04] <sethk> rysiek, yes, and the same on my system
[12:04] <rysiek> sethk: yep
[12:04] <glacious> crimsun: as i have done already in the 'Monitor' section?
[12:04] <Foller> sethk - well... that has not happened. dunno why.
[12:04] <sobersabre> mobodo, then now you need to partition and format.
[12:04] <Stormx2> any ideas? ext3 viewer for windows?
[12:04] <sethk> rysiek, so if it isn't the file being opened, then it has to be something with the opener
[12:05] <rysiek> sethk: maybe /sbin/passwd?
[12:05] <sethk> rysiek, or, possibly, with a directory
[12:05] <thingfish> misfit_toy: you watching?
[12:05] <rysiek> sethk: checking
[12:05] <mzinz> Hey, When I'm at my home directory in terminal it won't let me execute a bin file.. anyone know why?
[12:05] <mobodo> sobersabre: they also mention that I should install windows drivers
[12:05] <mzinz> I type the first few letters and try to tab it in, but it doesn't even think the file exists in the dir
[12:05] <sethk> rysiek, you can find out what was running with strace, with the -ff and -o flags
[12:05] <sobersabre> mobodo and linux drivers.
[12:05] <Foller> sethk - however i mounted it on a directory later, but i couldn't access it from any other user than root
[12:05] <mobodo> sobersabre: but I guess it doesn't apply to ubuntu?
[12:05] <mobodo> oh
[12:05] <DoctorMO> mwe: I see Adapt had screwed the line over somehow... and then died when it tried to read it back
[12:05] <sethk> Foller, that's normal.  You have to use mount options uid= and gid= to access the ntfs partition as other than root
[12:06] <mwe> DoctorMO: I don't know adept. I use the command line
[12:06] <mzinz> Terminal isn't recognizing a .bin file in my home directory.  Any clue what I'm doing wrong?
[12:06] <crimsun> Modeline "1280x1024_75.00"  138.54  1280 1368 1504 1728  1024 1025 1028 1069  -HSync +Vsync
[12:06] <sethk> Foller, do man mount, and search for ntfs, the options are described there
[12:06] <Stormx2> ok then :( Ill try later.
[12:06] <tatters> root@server1:/home/paul# mysql -u root -p Enter password:
[12:06] <tatters> ERROR 1045: Access denied for user: 'root@localhost' (Using password: YES)
[12:06] <bimberi> mzinz: do an "ls" to make sure the file is there
[12:06] <crimsun> glacious: I have no idea where you got yours
[12:06] <sobersabre> mobodo you need to know what chipset is the RAID controller.
[12:06] <mzinz> bimberi, i do, and it sees it
[12:06] <mobodo> sobersabre: Oh, I see, they explain how to initialize, but only from Windows
[12:06] <mwe> DoctorMO: it works perfectly here
[12:06] <mzinz> bimberi, then if i hit 'r' and tab, like 50 files show up that it doesn't see when i ls
[12:06] <rysiek> sethk: got the bastard: -rwxrwxr-x  1 root staff 26616 2005-05-18 08:33 /usr/bin/passwd
[12:06] <mwe> DoctorMO: clean up /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:06] <Foller> sethk - ok, thanks. gonna try that
[12:06] <rysiek> sethk: should be: -rws(...) :) thx for the help
[12:07] <glacious> crimsun: i used modeline generator on a web page.
[12:07] <sethk> rysiek, np, hope that's the only file with the problem  :)
[12:07] <sobersabre> mobodo, in order to talk to the raid controller, you need to load some module ( driver ) then you should see the RAID device as if it ia a huge scsi disk.
[12:07] <dwerf> is there an alternative to skype, with which it is possible to log in to skype?
[12:07] <mzinz> bimberi, nvm it finally worked, not sure why
[12:07] <Khisanth> sethk: it seems the firefox from mozilla.org does work but not the one from packages
[12:07] <DoctorMO> mwe: it'll be alright on the night, sorry for being upset with you
[12:07] <crimsun> glacious: it wasn't http://sh.nu/nvidia/gtf.php, I'm guessing.
[12:07] <sobersabre> ( or IDE )
[12:07] <glacious> crimsun: i'll try that one out.
[12:07] <sethk> rysiek, mine is also user root and group root, in addition to rwsr-xr-x
[12:07] <bimberi> mzinz: great, cause you had me stumped :)
[12:07] <mwe> DoctorMO: don't worry
[12:07] <Flogiston> do i have to restart apacheto update the content in /var/www ?
[12:07] <mobodo> sobersabre: can I do that from linux? I don't have any windows cd :(
[12:07] <rysiek> sethk: checking ;)
[12:07] <sethk> Khisanth, that's a bit odd, but at least your problem is solved.
[12:07] <Khisanth> sethk: one of many problems
[12:08] <sethk> Khisanth, it's a much newer release so you are better off with that one anyway
[12:08] <sethk> Khisanth, but there has to be some root cause of that, and your other problems.  Not that I can say what that might be.
[12:08] <Khisanth> sethk: still need to figure why I have these giant fonts and why my network is running at 10k, some how I remeber the livecd being a lot nicer!
[12:08] <xored_> am i able to install a 686 kernel on a centrio ?
[12:08] <bandfm> Will installing with video=ofonly configure ubuntu to boot with video=ofonly? If so, is there a way to change it without reinstalling? -_o
[12:09] <thingfish> xored: sure
[12:09] <sobersabre> mobodo check out if it is supported, and if so, checkout which module you need to install. I am 99% sure nvidia has drivers for linux.
[12:09] <bimberi> xored_: yes
[12:09] <sethk> Khisanth, clearly something went wrong during the install, the speed should be identical to what you saw with the cd, if not better
[12:09] <mzinz> bimberi, im installing real player to /usr/bin/, one of the questions asked me if i want symbolic links (yes), next questoin is "enter prefix for symbolic links" what does that mean?
[12:09] <thingfish> hey bipolar!  I'm you.
[12:09] <mobodo> sobersabre: thanks, I'll look it up!
[12:09] <Khisanth> sethk: that is actually the most annoying part, the fact that the livecd works better than the installed versions
[12:09] <sobersabre> good luck.
[12:09] <sobersabre> :)
[12:09] <theine> Hi, could anybody with an up-to-date Dapper system please tell me which package /usr/bin/X11/X belongs to?
[12:09] <rysiek> sethk: AOK, thx once more
[12:10] <sethk> rysiek, np
[12:10] <rysiek> going to get some sleep, cu all
[12:10] <mzinz> bimberi, Copying RealPlayer files...configure system-wide symbolic links? [Y/n] : ..Y
[12:10] <mzinz> enter the prefix for symbolic links [/usr] : .............................
[12:10] <thingfish> cu = asshole in portuguese.
[12:10] <mwe> theine: someone said to correct gdm.conf
[12:10] <bipolar> thingfish: join the club
[12:10] <sethk> Khisanth, that most definitely should not, and normally does not, happen.  I would be tempted to reinstall.
[12:10] <picasso> thingfish is cu
[12:10] <thingfish> hehe bipolar
[12:10] <theine> mwe, what?
[12:10] <crimsun> theine: none
[12:10] <mobodo> oh, no nforce4 driver from nvidia for linux :(
[12:10] <mwe> theine: nm
[12:11] <crimsun> mwe: that's just a temporary hack I suggested
[12:11] <bimberi> mzinz: looks like it's what directory to put them in - i'm guessing though
[12:11] <theine> crimsun, but X appearently won't start without it...
[12:11] <mzinz> bimberi, hmm
[12:11] <theine> crimsun, at least on my system
[12:11] <DoctorMO> mwe: interesting it does fix the bug, but now ig2.exe can't find the cd...
[12:11] <xored_> bimberi: iam trying to compile my one kernel now. When i comile it with the centrino, it automatically a 686 ? i mean there are no 386 / 686 sources
[12:12] <mwe> DoctorMO: what's ig2.exe?
[12:12] <P8ntKid_> What is that bit torrent client that comes with ubuntu called?
[12:12] <DoctorMO> mwe: industry giant 2 (jowood)
[12:12] <glacious> crimsun: i have to aptitude install gcc for this to work first.
[12:12] <anjin_> This is probably asked all the time.. but I can't seem to set my screen resolution above 800x600.  A lot of my applications  use larger windows and it cuts off some of the options I need.  I edited xorg.conf with my monitors v&h refresh rates... that didnt do anything.  any suggestions?
[12:12] <mwe> DoctorMO: is it supposed to work with wine?
[12:12] <crimsun> theine: it's an invalid symlink. /usr/bin/X11/X should point to /usr/bin/X11/Xorg
[12:12] <navarone> P8ntKid_, mine is just called BitTorrent
[12:13] <mzinz> bimberi, when installing something to /usr/bin/ (thats where a lot of programs are installed, right?), should i usually make a new dir inside of bin/, or just install all of the files there in the bin/ dir itself?
[12:13] <_jason> P8ntKid_: it's gnome bittorent I believe
[12:13] <Elsan_> How can I make the Konversation background transparent like in Xchat?
[12:13] <crimsun> theine: alternately, you can use /etc/X11/X or /usr/bin/Xorg directly
[12:13] <Khisanth> sethk: heh if I am reinstalling, gentoo would be "simpler" and easier as far as having things "just work", though probably about 40 times longer to install :)
[12:13] <bimberi> xored_: the processor flavour is a selection you make within the configuration (make menuconfig)
[12:13] <DoctorMO> mwe: no one has ever got it to, so I'm out on a limb
[12:14] <mwe> DoctorMO: I see
[12:14] <nekostar> sup
[12:14] <bimberi> mzinz: it is, although it's better to put your own stuff in /usr/local/bin and leave /usr/bin to your package manager
[12:14] <nekostar> really wierd error on totem:
[12:14] <navarone> DoctorMO, is ig2 a game?
[12:14] <P8ntKid_> _jason: How do i run it using a terminal?
[12:14] <DoctorMO> navarone: yes :-)
[12:14] <mzinz> bimberi, oh, i see.  so should i just toss all the files in there or make a new dir for each app?
[12:14] <nekostar> when i have some files that ive added with the panel and + button, then go to add more it gives a seg fault and crashes
[12:14] <theine> crimsun, yes, I used /etc/X11/X, but was /usr/bin/X11/X part of any package before (or will it be)?
[12:14] <nekostar> but even wierder it does not crash when i just drop the files into it
[12:14] <crimsun> theine: it will be valid, as I described.
[12:14] <nekostar> any clue on what could be happening?
[12:15] <navarone> DoctorMO, I don't use wine but I hear cedega is better for games...although I am sure it has issues of it's own
[12:15] <nekostar> i get the same error on regular and totem-xine btw
[12:15] <theine> crimsun, ok, thanks
[12:15] <_jason> P8ntKid_: gnome-btdownload
[12:15] <anjin_> anyone?
[12:15] <mwe> navarone: like only working for 1/1000 games
[12:15] <bimberi> mzinz: i would put the files in subdirectories of /usr/local and create symbolic links to their executables in /usr/local/bin
[12:15] <glacious> crimsun: i can't even compile it.
[12:15] <DoctorMO> navarone: so I hear but the registion didn't work and I'm rather upset that you need to pay a subscription
[12:15] <navarone> mwe...nice odds...lol
[12:15] <crimsun> glacious: ...compile it?
[12:15] <navarone> ahh...subascription eh
[12:15] <crimsun> glacious: what are you trying to compile?
[12:15] <mzinz> bimberi, why put the links in bin/ instead of the other way around? thats just standard?
[12:16] <mzinz> bimberi, cause it seems like i would want the symbolic links in a directory closer to root rather than farther
[12:16] <mwe> navarone: and for the ones that work only 1/10 works without any issues
[12:16] <anjin_> Guess not
[12:16] <navarone> mwe...that's why i keep windows...<sigh>
[12:16] <mwe> navarone: yeah
[12:16] <glacious> that gtf.c you gave me a link to.
[12:17] <crimsun> glacious: no, I gave you a link to the php
[12:17] <crimsun> glacious: don't compile it at all
[12:17] <glacious> crimsun: i downloaded the program.  =)   now i see the input boxes there.
[12:17] <bimberi> mzinz: suit yourself - i do it that way because /usr/local/bin is in the default path so typing "realplay" (or whatever) will just work
[12:17] <P8ntKid_> How come in azureus. It will get all the seeds and pears, but it wont start downloading?
[12:17] <Kyral> Firewall?
[12:17] <mwe> navarone: I have windows only on my desktop pc since it's mostly for games anyway. ubuntu only on the notebook
[12:17] <mzinz> bimberi, Ohhhhhh
[12:17] <navarone> anjin you should post your xorg.conf on pastebin and let people take a look
[12:17] <mzinz> bimberi, i had no idea
[12:18] <NickIsMagic> Ubuntu told me to put "boot /vmlinuz root=/dev/hdc3" inside grub. But its saying that root=/dev/hdc3 is invalid! ANYONE can help me?
[12:18] <Jesusaurus-Rex> How do I run a command on boot?
[12:18] <anjin_> sorry, linux noob... what's patebin?
[12:18] <mzinz> bimberi, makes sense.  now, if i just installed realplayer to /usr/bin/ and im not sure exactly what files where installed, is there any way to find out and uninstall so i can re-do it?
[12:18] <crimsun> glacious: besides, it already exists in the xserver-xorg-core package
[12:18] <nbound> !pastebin
[12:18] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:18] <mwe> NickIsMagic: you should put the correct device name, not copy some suggestion verbatim
[12:18] <Jesusaurus-Rex> How do I run a command on boot?
[12:19] <flashy-need-help> jesus
[12:19] <flashy-need-help> this one is really full
[12:19] <mwe> Jesusaurus-Rex: you can put it in /etc/init.d/bootmisc.sh
[12:19] <owner> is it okay to compile a kernel using sudo -i
[12:19] <bimberi> mzinz: see if there was a logfile created by the install
[12:19] <owner> or do i need to enable the root account
[12:19] <anjin_> Ok, I'll take a look and see if I can upload the xorg.conf...
[12:19] <tatters> /usr/bin/mysqladmin: connect to server at 'server1' failed
[12:19] <tatters> error: 'Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server'
[12:19] <tatters>    <anyone know what thats all about?
[12:19] <Jesusaurus-Rex> thank you mwe
[12:19] <mcdenyer> mwe hello again
[12:19] <mwe> owner: that's fine
[12:19] <nbound> flashy-need-help, it wasnt 10hrs ago
[12:19] <mzinz> bimberi, it would be in /usr/bin/ i guess?
[12:19] <navarone> anjin go to /etc/X11/ and find the file xorg.conf. Open in text editor and copy contents and then paste that into pastebin and return with the url for folks to go to it
[12:19] <mwe> Jesusaurus-Rex: do you know what the correct device is?
[12:19] <owner> im compiling the 2.6.15 latest kernel
[12:19] <flashy-need-help> anyone in here can help me to install java jdk and jre ?
[12:19] <Jesusaurus-Rex> mwe, eh?
[12:20] <mcdenyer> i made a hoary boot disc along time with out any problems but i cant with breezy
[12:20] <Jesusaurus-Rex> I must not
[12:20] <bimberi> mzinz: maybe, or wherever the install script is located
[12:20] <mcdenyer> c an somone help?
[12:20] <mwe> Jesusaurus-Rex: nm
[12:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell flashy-need-help about java
[12:20] <mwe> Jesusaurus-Rex: nick confusion :)
[12:20] <P8ntKid_> How come in azureus. It will get all the seeds and pears, but it wont start downloading?
[12:20] <tatters> surely the machine mysql-server is installed  on should be able to access it
[12:20] <mcdenyer> need help making simple breezy boot disc
[12:20] <navarone> mcdenyer...you mean you want to put grub on floppy to boot?
[12:21] <bimberi> mzinz: also, theres an "ubuntu" way of installing realplayer described at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:21] <mcdenyer> navarone, no just onto a cd
[12:21] <mzinz> bimberi, permission denied, and when i do sudo it doesn't work, how should i do that?
[12:21] <navarone> mcdenyer, you have no floppy?
[12:21] <mcdenyer> navarone, i dled breexy and burned it to disc and it wont work
[12:21] <bimberi> mzinz: what was the command?
[12:21] <mcdenyer> navarone, yeah i have floppies
[12:21] <fileman> hey i have a few questions
[12:21] <glacious> crimsun: i commented out all other modelines, commented out the V + H sync, and pasted in the one generated there.  still 85hz.
[12:21] <mcdenyer> navarone, is that easier?
[12:21] <theneonshadow> I need some help networking
[12:21] <mzinz> bimberi, well if i do /usr/bin/install.log i get permission denied, if i do sudo /usr/bin/install.log i get command not found
[12:21] <cello_rasp> how do i get NetworkManager to start?
[12:21] <flashy-need-help> _jason can i pm u ?
[12:21] <fileman> about disabbling power management
[12:22] <nbound> glacious, still probs with that :(
[12:22] <navarone> mcdenyer, are you sure you burned the image as an image or as data?
[12:22] <mzinz> bimberi, oops got it
[12:22] <mzinz> bimberi, forgot to gedit
[12:22] <bimberi> mzinz: you got it :)
[12:22] <mcdenyer> navarone, well i tried to save as image but it owuldnt let me
[12:22] <_jason> flashy-need-help: you should just ask here so everyone can help you.  Was ubotu's link not helpful?
[12:22] <mzinz> bimberi, its blank, maybe ill reinstall to home and see what it installs
[12:22] <mcdenyer> ubuntu wouldnt let me
[12:22] <fileman> power management makes my laptop slow
[12:22] <anjin_> back... here's the link to the xorg.conf I uploaded to pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7394
[12:22] <fileman> and i dont use the batteries
[12:22] <mcdenyer> navarone, ubuntu wouldnt let me
[12:22] <navarone> mcdenyer, if what is on your cd is somefilename.iso then it will not boot
[12:22] <bimberi> mzinz: good idea
[12:22] <mzinz> bimberi, can i execute a bin file through GUI?
[12:23] <flashy-need-help> no _jason i cant download it from sun i have a ubuntu server only shell no mozilla or something else on it
[12:23] <fileman> setup stalls copying files to the HD
[12:23] <theneonshadow> I have two computers on the internet in this house. One of them (windows) is directly connected to a modem (SBC YAHOO wan mini port) to get internet, the modem is hooked up to a wireless router, which feeds the internet to this computer (Linux). How do i share files bewteen these two computers
[12:23] <mcdenyer> navarone, ok how do i make one that will bot?
[12:23] <nbound> theneonshadow, connect them both to the router
[12:23] <navarone> mcdenyer, why won't ubuntu let you burn it properly?
[12:23] <mwe> navarone: it will
[12:24] <theneonshadow> I don't think i have the cables to hook the windows computer to the router
[12:24] <_jason> flashy-need-help: you can get the url and wget it or you can use the javadebs, did you ask ubotu about javadebs?
[12:24] <navarone> mwe he said it would not
[12:24] <mcdenyer> navarone, well i dled the .iso and placed it into the cd folder then hit burn and it said it cant make it as an image
[12:24] <bimberi> mzinz: you could <alt>F2 but it would be better from the command line
[12:24] <dst> theneonshadow: use a floppy disc ...
[12:24] <glacious> nbound: yes sir.
[12:24] <mcdenyer> navarone, but i am readingthe dl from an ntfs
[12:24] <nbound> theneonshadow, well its the only way u can...
[12:24] <flashy-need-help> no _jason
[12:24] <fileman> can omeone help me?
[12:24] <fileman> plz
[12:24] <navarone> mcdenyer, what cd folder?
[12:24] <_jason> ubotu: tell flashy-need-help about javadebs
[12:24] <poningru> fileman: whats wrong?
[12:24] <nbound> fileman, just ask
[12:25] <theneonshadow> k
[12:25] <fileman> i need to disable powere management
[12:25] <fileman> it makes my lappy slow
[12:25] <poningru> as in acpi?
[12:25] <mcdenyer> navarone, i just double click on the blank cd thats in my cd burner and then i paste the .isop into it
[12:25] <mzinz> bimberi, k
[12:25] <navarone> mcdenyer, I dunno if ntfs would be an issue
[12:25] <fileman> and i dont use the batteries becaue they are dead
[12:25] <fileman> yes acpi
[12:25] <poningru> !acpi
[12:25] <ubotu> No idea, poningru
[12:25] <fileman> setup locks up because of it
[12:25] <poningru> hmm
[12:25] <poningru> hold on
[12:25] <mcdenyer> navarone, well i just pasted it to my deskop so i took it off my ntfs
[12:25] <fileman> and the laptop gets really hot
[12:26] <glacious> crimsun: it just seems like that config file doesn't control the refresh / resolutions.  ALWAYS just 85 in gnome control panel, and always the same resolutions.
[12:26] <mcdenyer> navaron how
[12:26] <navarone> mcdenyer, do you have gnomebaker installed?
[12:26] <mzinz> bimberi, what parameter do i add to rmdir to make it delete subfiles
[12:26] <crimsun> glacious: and you specified that mode in your Modes line?
[12:26] <flashy-need-help> _jason i have hoary not breezy that dont help me
[12:26] <bimberi> mzinz: -r  (use with care)
[12:26] <mwe> mzinz: rm -rf
[12:26] <fileman> this laptop is realy weird
[12:26] <anjin_> anyone get a look at my xorg.conf yet?
[12:26] <mcdenyer> navarone, no i dont really have anyhitng on this i just want to make a breezy cd so i dont have to update when i installl hoary
[12:26] <mwe> mzinz: I don't think rmdir will do it
[12:26] <fileman> on most linux versions it locks up setting up pcmcia
[12:26] <mzinz> mwe, thanks, it wasn't
[12:26] <mzinz> mwe, whats the f
[12:27] <glacious> crimsun: the modeline i generated, yes.  1280x1024 @ 75hz.  also tried 60 and 65.  put the line into the 'Monitor' section
[12:27] <poningru> fileman: I think its just: no acpi
[12:27] <nbound> glacious, yeah theres something else which controls that xorg.conf, coz ive tryed adding extra resolutions... but ive always had to reconfigure X
[12:27] <dooglus> fileman: when I first switched from mandrake to ubuntu, my laptop had the same problem.  it would power down if I ran something CPU intensive for 5 minutes because it got too hot.
[12:27] <bimberi> oh yes, thanks mwe
[12:27] <poningru> add that to the startup in grub
[12:27] <mwe> mzinz: don't ask for confirmation, just do it
[12:27] <fileman> with a space?
[12:27] <poningru> like edit
[12:27] <fileman> itried without
[12:27] <poningru> hmm
[12:27] <_jason> I don't think the java debs would matter between hoary and breezy would they?
[12:27] <mcdenyer> navarone, what am i suposed to tdo with the .iso that io dled form ubuntu.com?
[12:27] <poningru> yeah there is a space iirc
[12:27] <dooglus> fileman: I switched back to mandrake and it was OK again.  there's something about ubuntu that stops it managing its temperature properly.
[12:27] <flashy-need-help> dont know
[12:27] <mwe> mzinz: be careful though
[12:27] <mcdenyer> navarone,  i rhough i just put that onto cd
[12:27] <flashy-need-help> ubotu: tell flashy-need-help about javadebs
[12:27] <fileman> thanks ill try
[12:27] <mzinz> mwe, hehe yeah
[12:27] <glacious> nbound: now if we can just figure out what it is =)
[12:27] <fileman> its killing me =)
[12:27] <starla> I'm really new here... and I don't know how to describe my problem.  I backed up a bunch of data to dvd last week, and then reinstalled ubuntu breezy.  now my dvd burner acts as if I've inserted a blank dvd when I insert my backup discs.  I know there's data on it because I can "see" it when I flip the disc over. anyone have some idea what I can do to recover my data?
[12:27] <dooglus> fileman: then someone suggested I should blow into the airvents, and that fixed it.  it's not powered down since.
[12:27] <redguy> mcdenyer: burn it, as a disk image that is
[12:28] <fileman> lol
[12:28] <mcdenyer> redguy,  it wont let me
[12:28] <crimsun> glacious: there's a directive to tell the X server to ignore the results of a ddc probe
[12:28] <glacious> does anyone know a config file to control xorg resolutions / refresh rates besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:28] <mcdenyer> redguy, ubuntu wont let me
[12:28] <crimsun> glacious: I don't know it off the top of my head, but Google will help
[12:28] <navarone> mcdenyer, maybe easier to burn iso in windows if hoary is making an issue of it
[12:28] <fileman> this laptop doesnt get hot unless using acpi lol
[12:28] <tck> anyone trying out dapper flight 3 ?
[12:28] <imachine_> hi.
[12:28] <redguy> ubuntu won't let you?
[12:28] <glacious> crimsun: that might be helpful.  i wonder why it only shows 85hz in the gnome dropdown menu?
[12:28] <anjin_> I had trouble with isos until I downloaded K3b
[12:28] <mcdenyer> redguy lol no it says i cant put it on as an image
[12:28] <mwe> mzinz: I learned the hard way. A few years back I wanted to delete /some/dir. as root I typed rm -rf / some/dir. bad luck! had to reinstall
[12:28] <nbound> navarone use Gnomebaker
[12:28] <Khisanth> hmm
[12:28] <fileman> kde restarts when acpi enable says batteries are dead when they are plugged in
[12:28] <poningru> starla: did you try the disk on another drive?
[12:28] <mzinz> mwe,  ouch
[12:28] <dooglus> tck: I'm running dapper.  didn't try flight 3, but use the latest packages from the archive, so it's much the same.
[12:28] <navarone> nbound he has not got it installed he said
[12:29] <owner> mwe ouch
[12:29] <mcdenyer> redguy just a sing disc image?
[12:29] <starla> poningru, yes, but the drive just spins and spins. it doesn't read the disc.
[12:29] <mwe> owner: yeah
[12:29] <poningru> hmm
[12:29] <nbound> navarone, well make him get it.... u can burn iso's with it
[12:29] <fileman> could not find kernel
[12:29] <redguy> mcdenyer: maybe the download is corrupt?
[12:29] <owner> there is a thread on the ubuntu forums about that command
[12:29] <owner> rm -rf /
[12:29] <owner> lol
[12:29] <tck> dooglus, well similar yes, but https under firefox does not work for me, are you affected by any such problems?
[12:29] <flashy-need-help> _jason all wont work
[12:29] <fileman> could not find kernel image
[12:29] <flashy-need-help> dont know what i can do
[12:29] <flashy-need-help> that really sux
[12:29] <bimberi> tck, dooglus: in fact it's much more recent - i'm on vanilla flight3 and there's >150 updates :)
[12:29] <mwe> owner: I hit ctrl-c before it deleted hy homedir but /bin and stuff was completely messed up
[12:29] <poningru> fileman: ?
[12:29] <tolstoy> starla: could you read the disk on the machine you burned it on before re-installing ubuntu?
[12:29] <_jason> flashy-need-help: you can wget the .bin from sun if you want to build it
[12:29] <mcdenyer> redguy ok well this is what it says when i try to create it says it appeears the the disc when creared will contain a single disc image
[12:29] <nbound> owner, arent some people trying to get rid of it =\
[12:30] <mcdenyer> redguy and then when i hit ok
[12:30] <mzinz> mwe, when i do ls -l /usr/bin/Codecs/ it only lists like 15 files (the ones i want deleted, but above the files it says "total 2860".. does this mean there are more than its showing me?
[12:30] <mcdenyer> reguy it says
[12:30] <fileman> yeah?
[12:30] <flashy-need-help> _jason its say to me file name to long
[12:30] <tck> bimberi, i shall update again just in case
[12:30] <bimberi> tck: https on "Deer Park" works here
[12:30] <fileman> got it
[12:30] <redguy> mcdenyer: nah, it should burn the corrupted image anyway
[12:30] <fileman> not
[12:30] <starla> tolstoy, yeah I could read the dvd on the drive I burned it on, but I didn't test it on another drive. i should have.
[12:30] <tck> bimberi, grr really ?
[12:30] <fileman> doenst work
[12:30] <poningru> fileman: did it work?
[12:30] <poningru> oh
[12:30] <owner> mwe there is a file you can create
[12:30] <tck> hmm wonder what it could be then
[12:30] <fileman> no
[12:30] <poningru> what does it say?
[12:30] <anjin_> In case it was missed, my xorg.conf is at: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7394  ... still waiting for help on my screen res
[12:30] <owner> in /
[12:30] <owner> so it will ask you for a prompt
[12:30] <fileman> says cnt find kernel image no
[12:30] <fileman> lol
[12:30] <nbound> anjin_, whats the problem?
[12:30] <redguy> mcdenyer: what does it say? what is 'it'? gnomebaker? nautilus?
[12:30] <poningru> oh no dude
[12:30] <mcdenyer> redguy, the file ubuntu-5.10-install-1386.iso is not a valid dis image
[12:30] <anjin_> Not that I'm trying to be a jerk... I'm greatful for any help.
[12:30] <C_J_Pro> My school district now runs Ubuntu ^_^
[12:30] <mwe> mzinz: what's ls -la show?
[12:30] <poningru> after the whole thing
[12:30] <tolstoy> starla: very strange.
[12:31] <anjin_> I cant get any resolutions higher than 800x600
[12:31] <mwe> owner: a file I can create?
[12:31] <mcdenyer> redguy it says no such file or directory at the top
[12:31] <nbound> anjin_, reconfigure x
[12:31] <mzinz> mwe, first line is 'total 2888', then the next 15 lines are files
[12:31] <redguy> nbound, navarone : can't nautilus burn isos?
[12:31] <bimberi> C_J_Pro: fantastic! :)
[12:31] <nbound> ubotu tell anjin_ about xorg
[12:31] <owner> yes
[12:31] <fileman> darnit
[12:31] <owner> do cd / and sudo touch -- -i
[12:32] <poningru> fileman: when you start up
[12:32] <anjin_> I editted the xorg.conf with the refresh rates from my monitor... and 1024x768 is IN the xorg.conf .. but not in the options to set res
[12:32] <mwe> mzinz: yeah I think it's total size
[12:32] <owner> that will make a file called -i
[12:32] <fileman> yeah?
[12:32] <mwe> mzinz: try ls -lh
[12:32] <pianoboy3333> if i'm setting up a printer using a LAN connection, does the host need to distribute an IP address to me?
[12:32] <nbound> redguy, im not sure, ive always used gnomebaker... and it has a big burn image to disk button
[12:32] <mzinz> mwe, i navigated through GUI and it only has the files i wanted... why does it say total 2888?
[12:32] <armosfighter> whats the command so i can check how many gigs i have left on my hardrive?
[12:32] <poningru> fileman: choose what you start with and press edit
[12:32] <_jason> flashy-need-help: don't you have another computer you can download it with and then transfer?
[12:32] <owner> when you do rm -rf it will make it prompt before deleting
[12:32] <fileman> there is an option acpi pci
[12:32] <mwe> mzinz: I think it's total size
[12:32] <mwe> mzinz: try ls -lh
[12:32] <fileman> ok
[12:32] <redguy> nbound: this is very odd :/
[12:32] <flashy-need-help> _jason i've done that but i transfered it then to this machine and it says its corrupt
[12:32] <navarone> nbound...yeah gotta like those big button for us with bad eyes...<s>
[12:32] <fileman> where?
[12:32] <owner> ubuntu should alias rm=rm -i
[12:32] <mzinz> mwe, yep, 2.8mb
[12:32] <owner> that way it will always ask
[12:32] <pianoboy3333> if i'm setting up a printer using a LAN connection, does the host need to distribute an IP address to me?
[12:32] <glacious> crimsun: i added Option "NoDDC" to my monitor section.  now it just gets no signal =(
[12:32] <owner> before deleting
[12:32] <mzinz> mwe, whats the -a and -h do?
[12:32] <poningru> fileman: do you have ubuntu installed?
[12:32] <nbound> navarone, speak for yourself \P
[12:32] <fileman> oh found the command i thinkl
[12:33] <poningru> or no?
[12:33] <nbound> =P*
[12:33] <fileman> no
[12:33] <poningru> ok
[12:33] <poningru> oh
[12:33] <poningru> dude
[12:33] <fileman> it locked up copying the final files
[12:33] <fileman> just a sec
[12:33] <poningru> k
[12:33] <armosfighter> whats the command that shows me how much space i have left on my hardrive
[12:33] <armosfighter> ?
[12:33] <fileman> linux acpi=off
[12:33] <mjr> df
[12:33] <crimsun> glacious: erm, not that one
[12:33] <bimberi> df -h
[12:33] <tafsen> Can anyone help me with patching wine?
[12:33] <mwe> mzinz: -a is all even hidden (.files) -h is human. show mb and k instead of bytes
[12:33] <navarone> anjin I can't see anything glaringly wrong
[12:33] <fileman> works
[12:33] <starla> can someone help me troubleshoot my dvd backup problems?
[12:33] <pianoboy3333> if i'm setting up a printer using a LAN connection, does the host need to distribute an IP address to me?
[12:33] <crimsun> glacious: it's one that ignores the probe results
[12:33] <_jason> flashy-need-help: http://www.giannaros.org/buntu/hoary/i386/ <-- how about thee?
[12:33] <poningru> fileman: awesom
[12:33] <nbound> glacious, thats coz DDCis your friend =)
[12:33] <mzinz> mwe, cool
[12:33] <mzinz> mwe, thanks
[12:33] <fileman> acpi is still inizializing
[12:33] <poningru> I thought you had it installed already
[12:33] <fileman> damit
[12:34] <mwe> mzinz: read man ls for details. there are other nice features
[12:34] <fileman> disable that dam pcmcia locks up
[12:34] <fileman> i ate this
[12:34] <nbound> fileman, is acpi a module... maybe u can remove it from ur modules.conf
[12:34] <fileman> hate this
[12:34] <redguy> nbound: seems that you have some error with gnomebaker, I can't help you since I'm using the almighty K3B. No such file or directory seems to be the error. Maybe you can't access the file? Permissions are ok?
[12:34] <fileman> its not insytallled
[12:34] <poningru> fileman: disable pcmcia and acpi
[12:35] <tafsen> Can anyone help me with patching wine?
[12:35] <mzinz> mwe, ok, thanks
[12:35] <fileman> i have tioo have acpi to have pcmcai
[12:35] <nbound> redguy, i have no error, your getting mixed up, i was helping you with an error
[12:35] <navarone> redguy I think you mean mcdenyer ...<s>
[12:35] <fileman> i need pcmcia
[12:35] <fileman> for netwrok
[12:35] <mcdenyer> redguy well your messaging nbound not me lol
[12:35] <poningru> fileman: oh hmm
[12:35] <redguy> nbound: oops, sorry
[12:35] <fileman> i dont have integrated network
[12:35] <nbound> redguy, =P
[12:35] <redguy> mcdenyer: that's true, late in here
[12:35] <arrinmurr> tafsen: why do you want to patch it?
[12:35] <mcdenyer> reguy well the file does have a lock on it
[12:35] <armosfighter> whats the command to find how much space i have left on my harddrive
[12:35] <fileman> it a pii laptop
[12:35] <_jason> armosfighter: df
[12:35] <navarone> mcdenyer...if you have not got gnomebaker installed install it and try again
[12:35] <mcdenyer> redguy well the file does have a lock thing on it
[12:36] <fileman> this laptop is weird
[12:36] <pianoboy3333> can someone help me?
[12:36] <fileman> systemax crap
[12:36] <armosfighter> thanks
[12:36] <_jason> !helpme
[12:36] <ubotu> If you don't actually ask a question, we can not actually help you.
[12:36] <pianoboy3333> can someone help me?
[12:36] <nbound> mcdenyer, that means read only =)
[12:36] <pianoboy3333> if i'm setting up a printer using a LAN connection, does the host need to distribute an IP address to me?
[12:36] <redguy> mcdenyer: gotcha!
[12:36] <Em_Factor> hey guys.. I'm trying to set up my laptop to dual boot XP and Ubuntu..I have a little over 4GB for all the linux partitions...how big should each linux partition be would you say?
[12:36] <navarone> Would read-only affect it burning?
[12:36] <cyphase> what does everyone think about the idea of having a single gconf value describing program complexity?
[12:36] <cyphase> meaning..
[12:36] <nbound> Em_Factor, install will usually set them out to a decent size
[12:37] <cyphase> a program could check this value, and determine from that how complex it's visible features should be
[12:37] <mwe> pianoboy3333: to little detail
[12:37] <redguy> mcdenyer: or maybe not..., try changing the permissions to read+write for everyone
[12:37] <tafsen> arrinmurr, because I get an error when I try to start WoW, and ppl said that a patch could fix it...
[12:37] <Em_Factor> well..I think I need to do it manually at first since I'm going to create space for it on the free space on my windows partition
[12:37] <pianoboy3333> mwe: i can't setup a lan printer
[12:37] <nbound> seeing my hard drive is ginormous, my sda1 partition is 2 gig, and the other is like 298 =/
[12:37] <cafuego> Em_Factor: One single partition for Linux.
[12:37] <Jesusaurus-Rex> Is there any gui way to give the curent user super user access? (not terminal)
[12:37] <sethk> cyphase, it's an interesting concept but I'm not sure how practical
[12:37] <arrinmurr> tafsen: are you running the latest version from winehq.com ?
[12:37] <cyphase> totem, for example, might have the video window, the controls (stop, play), and that's it
[12:38] <cyphase> or
[12:38] <_jason> Jesusaurus-Rex: yes, system _> admin -> users and groups
[12:38] <owner> jesusaurus there is
[12:38] <fileman> i think i got it
[12:38] <mwe> pianoboy3333: is the host linux?
[12:38] <owner> but why do you want do that
[12:38] <pianoboy3333> no, windows
[12:38] <Em_Factor> when I mean how big for each partition, I mean a /root, a /swap, and a /home
[12:38] <mcdenyer> redguy, well it did the same thing
[12:38] <tafsen> arrinmurr, no. ppl havn't got wow du work on that one yet.
[12:38] <mcdenyer> redguy oh well ill just install using hoary ;p
[12:38] <sethk> cyphase, you can't just do it by resolution
[12:38] <fileman> not
[12:38] <cyphase> it might have a way to edit the gstreamer pipeline (i know this isn't useful, but i'm just trying to make the point)
[12:38] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Don't subpartition if you only have 4Gb. Just /
[12:38] <cyphase> sethk, what do you mean?
[12:38] <anjin_> No dice... still can't get 1024x768 :-(
[12:38] <fileman> locked up at piix loaded sucessfully
[12:38] <nbound> anjin_, did u reconfigure x
[12:38] <arrinmurr> tafsen: ok. well then, have you tried to ask in #winehq ?
[12:38] <_jason> Jesusaurus-Rex: but make sure you keep your original sudo privileged user (ie don't delete him) until you verify your new guy actually has sudo privileges
[12:38] <anjin_> yes I did
[12:38] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Maybe 128 Mb swap, rest /
[12:38] <sethk> cyphase, just thinking that the screen resolution itself might not be sufficient for making that decision
[12:39] <cyphase> ..
[12:39] <Em_Factor> gotcha..
[12:39] <cyphase> sethk, where did i say that?
[12:39] <Em_Factor> I'll give it a shot...
[12:39] <nbound> anjin_, what did u choose for max res in the resolution part
[12:39] <tafsen> arrinmurr, But I have found a patch for Gentoo. Can I use this on Ubuntu? http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Install_and_update_World_Of_Warcraft_with_wine#Troubleshooting
[12:39] <sethk> cyphase, you didn't, I'm just speculating
[12:39] <redguy> redguy: hrmmm, as you wish
[12:39] <tolstoy> folks, re: starla's prob.  Why would a DVD become unreadable after re-installing breezy when it was readable before?
[12:39] <pianoboy3333> mwe: no, windows
[12:39] <redguy> mcdenyer: ^^^
[12:39] <anjin_> 1024x768 .. I unchecked everything else
[12:39] <Em_Factor> since I'm dual booting should the /root be a primary or logical...prim, right..in order to select with GRUB
[12:39] <nbound> cafuego, so my 2gig swap isnt good =P
[12:39] <cyphase> sethk, i wasn't implying you use the resolution..
[12:39] <redguy> definetly too late in here
[12:39] <cyphase> lol
[12:39] <sethk> cyphase, what, then?
[12:39] <cyphase> have a gconf value
[12:39] <_jason> tolstoy: did you install the required packages for viewing a dvd?
[12:39] <nbound> anjin_, check them all including it
[12:39] <flashy-need-help> _jason thx will try
[12:40] <cafuego> nbound: 2GB swap is not a good idea when all you have to work with is 4GB.
[12:40] <mwe> pianoboy3333: I just added mine in the kde printer guide. no problem
[12:40] <fileman> ill try expert setup
[12:40] <nbound> anjin_, it will use the highest by default
[12:40] <Em_Factor> haha....
[12:40] <fileman> it might work
[12:40] <imachine_> any of you guys here using cpufreq with ubuntu?
[12:40] <sethk> cyphase, a gconf value doesn't do any good unless you have a way to set it.
[12:40] <anjin_> nbound: alright, I'll try again.  Should I lower it from 24 bit to 16 and see if that helps as well?
[12:40] <imachine_> i cant seem to get it to work right.
[12:40] <Em_Factor> I have another partition that for data...so the 4gb just has to hold the core linux install
[12:40] <nbound> cafuego, hehe =P, luckily i have a tad more than that
[12:40] <cyphase> sethk, i know. you could have a dialog..
[12:40] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Aaaaah.
[12:40] <cyphase> or make it part of an existing dialog
[12:40] <tolstoy> _jason: not my machine.  this is a data dvd.  What packages are you talking about?
[12:40] <nbound> anjin_, yeah ur card may not have enough texture memory
[12:40] <mwe> pianoboy3333: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter
[12:40] <mzinz> bimberi, where you saying to install things to /usr/local/ and make links in /usr/local/bin/? or is that not what it was
[12:40] <navarone> anjin how old is your Cirrus card?
[12:40] <tolstoy> _jason: not a movie, or anything.
[12:41] <flashy-need-help> _jason i need for amd64 not i386
[12:41] <bobbyd> hi
[12:41] <pianoboy3333> mwe: kk
[12:41] <sethk> cyphase, sure, you could do that.  some people would be confused, but I guess a reasonable default would take care of those people
[12:41] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Well, you want a 2GB / at an absolute minimum, if you want to split off /home.
[12:41] <nbound> flashy-need-help, this for java still?
[12:41] <bobbyd> how do I set up WPA-PSK encryption under ubuntu?
[12:41] <_jason> flashy-need-help: you have to say these things when you ask your question
[12:41] <bobbyd> for my wireless network
[12:41] <cafuego> bobbyd: wpasupplicant
[12:41] <bimberi> mzinz: that's what i do for self-installed stuff yes
[12:41] <arrinmurr> tafsen: i guess you could, if you get the source that's used there (not only the patch), since you need to compile wine yourself anyway if you want to patch it
[12:41] <cyphase> sethk, i was thinking make the default the way it is now, or maybe a little simpler
[12:41] <ReyBit> official language on this channel only english? or italian too?
[12:41] <Em_Factor> ok.. maybe I'll just do /swap and /root
[12:41] <DoctorMO> how can I decompress ace files?
[12:41] <bobbyd> cafuego, thanks
[12:41] <Em_Factor> and a tiny /boot
[12:41] <cafuego> !it
[12:41] <sethk> it's an interesting idea
[12:42] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:42] <flashy-need-help> yes nbound
[12:42] <mzinz> bimberi, so from term if i just type a command, it looks in /usr/local/bin/?
[12:42] <cafuego> Em_Factor: I wouldn't worry about /boot
[12:42] <flashy-need-help> im sorry _jason^
[12:42] <flashy-need-help> im sorry _jason
[12:42] <Em_Factor> really?
[12:42] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Unless you have a REALLY old machine.
[12:42] <bimberi> mzinz: yes, if you "echo $PATH" /usr/local/bin should be in the list
[12:42] <Em_Factor> nope
[12:43] <cafuego> Em_Factor: Modern bootloaders and bioses don't have a 1024 cylinder problem.
[12:43] <sethk> Em_Factor, having additional partitions doesn't really buy you anything
[12:43] <mzinz> bimberi, so it looks in ALL of those whenever i type a command?
[12:43] <nbound> flashy-need-help, theres a special java for AMD64 coz sun doesnt support it yet well, but no JDK, the JRE for it is called Blackdown
[12:43] <Em_Factor> ok..so how about /swap =128MB and the rest on /root
[12:43] <bimberi> mzinz: yes, in that order (so if something is in 2 places it will execute the first one)
[12:43] <nbound> flashy-need-help, sudo apt-get install j2re1.4 j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin
[12:43] <mzinz> bimberi, that was my next Q hehe
[12:43] <omerix> is there any web explorer which  text based (no images)
[12:43] <cafuego> Em_Factor: The only way a separate /home is useful, is that reinstalling means you don't need to backup your user files.
[12:43] <bimberi> mzinz: i thought so :P
[12:43] <owner> omerix, lync
[12:43] <flashy-need-help> nbound its a server no need for mozilla
[12:43] <nbound> after u restart firefox u should have working java
[12:43] <owner> lynx
[12:43] <sethk> Em_Factor, that should be fine.
[12:43] <anjin_> nbound, Still only offers me 640x480 and 800x600
[12:44] <Em_Factor> ok thanks guys....much appreciated
[12:44] <anjin_> I enabled all the resolutions and set it to 16 bit
[12:44] <nbound> anjin_, how much texture mem on the card?
[12:44] <flashy-need-help> nbound Package j2re1.4 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[12:44] <flashy-need-help> its 5.04 amd64 nbound
[12:44] <sethk> cafuego, there is absolutely no gain to making /home separate.  If you need to reinstall, all you have to do is _rename_ home.
[12:44] <nbound> flashy-need-help, goto the restricted formats page and read the bottom
[12:44] <arrinmurr> omerix: lynx, links, links2, elinks, w3m
[12:44] <anjin_> nbound, honestly I dont know.. this was a hand-me-down computer from work
[12:44] <cyphase> I'm writing a paper of sorts about different ideas for Gnome 3 and how they might be implemented.
[12:44] <cyphase> If anyone has anything they want included, /msg me, so I'll be sure to see it.
[12:44] <cafuego> sethk: That depends on whether you want to just wipe /
[12:44] <nbound> flashy-need-help, OHHHH u need 5.10
[12:44] <omerix> ok thanks all
[12:44] <mzinz> bimberi, so installing to /usr/local/Real would be appropriate
[12:45] <fileman> how much space does ubuntu take?
[12:45] <sethk> cafuego, there is nothing to be gained by just wiping.
[12:45] <fileman> to install?
[12:45] <flashy-need-help> nbound cant change its a special kernel for 5.04
[12:45] <cafuego> fileman: Around 2GB
[12:45] <nbound> anjin_, my guess that it may not have enough texture mem
[12:45] <anjin_> nbound, it was able to do 1024x768 using an old copy of nt4.0 though.. so I know it's capable on a hardware level
[12:45] <bimberi> mzinz: yes (imho)
[12:45] <cafuego> sethk: That again depends on what FS you use.
[12:45] <nbound> flashy-need-help, which one?
[12:45] <navarone> nbound...would the DRI section in anjin's xorg.conf affect the resolution at all?
[12:45] <owner> anjin what video card you have
[12:45] <mzinz> bimberi, thanks :)
[12:45] <fileman> ok thanks
[12:45] <cafuego> sethk: With ext3, no. With reiser4, hmm... maybe ;-)
[12:45] <ITSa341> I need help with apt-get   anyone got time to help me?
[12:45] <bimberi> mzinz: np :)
[12:45] <flashy-need-help> dont know but its a special one for that 5.04
[12:45] <nbound> navarone, lemme check my DRI section =P
[12:45] <sethk> cafuego, I would never take the risk of using reiser
[12:45] <fileman> im doing a expert install
[12:45] <fileman> it might work
[12:45] <flashy-need-help> dont know but its a special one for that 5.04  nbound
[12:46] <owner> can ubuntu even use reiser 4
[12:46] <anjin_> owner, it's detecting it as a cirrus .. no more info was given when I tried to reconfigure x
[12:46] <cafuego> sethk: Sadly not everyone does thorough research into what to use or not.
[12:46] <mwe> sethk: not even reiser3 ?
[12:46] <mwe> owner: yes
[12:46] <nbound> flashy-need-help, u can get the same ones in 5.10
[12:46] <nbound> xorg.conf
[12:46] <sethk> mwe, to me it's too big a risk.  I know other people argue otherwise.
[12:46] <navarone> nbound it is last part of the file...and is Mode 0666
[12:46] <nbound> oops
[12:46] <mwe> sethk: ok
[12:46] <owner> ext3 appears to be the safest file system
[12:47] <owner> for desktops
[12:47] <starla> lmanul, you here?
[12:47] <nbound> navarone i dont even have a DRI section on mine =/
[12:47] <lmanul> starla, yep
[12:47] <anjin_> so far, this is my only real issue with ubuntu ... so far I've loved it.  More fun than my XP box... just need a higher res.  I can probably stick another vid card in there.. but this one is built into the motherboard.  Not sure how I would disable it
[12:47] <fileman> setup is making my laptop a little HOT
[12:47] <lmanul> starla, Hmmm
[12:47] <nbound> anjin_, it would either be a BIOS option or a motherboard jumper
[12:47] <navarone> nbound...mine is set at Mode 0666 as well...I don't think it matters
[12:47] <cafuego> fileman: submerge it in cooking oil.
[12:47] <sethk> fileman, a have several laptops that get hot.
[12:47] <owner> what about sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:48] <fileman> except the hd and cd
[12:48] <owner> anjin
[12:48] <lmanul> starla, Can you try inserting the disc in your DVD player (not burner)
[12:48] <fileman> well it is a pentium 2
[12:48] <anjin_> owner, yes?
[12:48] <owner> you can select a higher resolution in the check boxes
[12:48] <owner> try it
[12:48] <fileman> fan is going like hell
[12:48] <nbound> navarone, but yeah my 512MB PCIe card is a lil diff from his 10yr old PCI
[12:48] <sethk> fileman, hmm, that is unusual
[12:48] <starla> lmanul, yes i tried, but the disc just spins and simply stops. it doesn't mount
[12:48] <fileman> funky latop
[12:48] <dwerf> brrr
[12:48] <navarone> nbound...and my 4 year old geforce3...lol
[12:48] <fileman> systemax piece of crap
[12:48] <lmanul> starla, Then try sudo mount /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0  (in a terminal) ?
[12:48] <sethk> fileman, but I can't think of anything setup could do to make it hotter, other than mkfs or a sector scan
[12:48] <nbound> navarone, hehe =P
[12:48] <geneo93> fileman:  cant you disable power in bios
[12:48] <fileman> what is evms module?
[12:49] <lmanul> starla, And then tell me what happens
[12:49] <fileman> i did
[12:49] <fileman> doesnt do nothing
[12:49] <navarone> nbound...you disgust me...;)
[12:49] <fileman> its old
[12:49] <fileman> evms?
[12:49] <anjin_> owner, I tried that when reconfiguring x ... the option did not show up when I went back to the GUI.  I checked ALL resolutions, but the dialogue box still only allows for 640x480 or 800x600
[12:49] <sethk> fileman, actually, you mean that it _does_ do nothing, not that it doesn't
[12:49] <nbound> navarone, lol, it was a 512 meg 6600 i HAD to buy it, it was my DUTY
[12:49] <fileman> yeah
[12:49] <owner> anjin try using vesa driver
[12:49] <fileman> what is evms?
[12:49] <ITSa341> When  I got up this morning my laptop said there were 3 updates ready to install. I try installing them and I get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . I cleared the apt-get with "sudo apt-get clean" and tried again. Same error. I searched the wiki and found nothing. Anyone got any ideas??
[12:49] <theneonshadow> ok... how do i connect to windows computer on here? Im trying to connect to my computer downstairs
[12:49] <starla> lmanul, ok i'm trying... it's thinking/spinning/hanging
[12:49] <navarone> 512mb vidcard?
[12:49] <sethk> anjin_, it thinks that your monitor is only capable of those resolutions, most likely
[12:50] <nbound> owner, he probly is =)
[12:50] <sethk> anjin_, or as someone just said it's confused about which driver to use
[12:50] <nbound> navarone, yep =D
[12:50] <owner> nboud, i think anjin is using the cirrus driver
[12:50] <starla> lmanul, it says "you must specify the filesystem type"
[12:50] <anjin_> sethk, Ok, but I know the monitor is capable of better.  I'll go back and try again
[12:50] <navarone> nbound I just added 256mb to my system mem for a grand total of 524
[12:50] <owner> it may not support high res
[12:50] <anjin_> yes, cirrus ... that's what it autodetects
[12:50] <owner> does cirrus release linux drivers
[12:50] <sethk> anjin_, I didn't say the monitor can't, I said possibly the software _believes_ the monitor can't
[12:50] <flashy-need-help> nbound how can install sun-j2re1.5_1.5.0+update04_amd64.deb ?
[12:50] <nbound> sethk, itd have to be ancient to only handle those.... =/
[12:51] <navarone> anjin is the card pci or agp?
[12:51] <lmanul> starla, Then try sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/cdrom /media/cdrom0
[12:51] <sethk> nbound, I don't think the monitor can't do it, I think identification of the monitor probably failed
[12:51] <anjin_> navarone, built into the motherboard
[12:51] <senning> hi, sorry to be a bother, but I'm trying to set up samba between breezy and my brother's iBook.  Every time I try to connect, though, it prompts for domain/usr/pass, and my own account (and root) don't work
[12:51] <sethk> nbound, so it defaults to 8x6
[12:51] <nbound> flashy-need-help, is it in synaptic or did u get it separately?
[12:51] <navarone> anjin how much video memory?
[12:51] <glacious> crimsun: nothing works =(.  no matter what, same res's show up, and always ONLY 85hz in gnome/xorg.
[12:51] <sethk> senning, that would be the domain user/password.
[12:51] <flashy-need-help> i've downloaded it with wget nbound
[12:51] <nbound> sethk, yeah thats probably my guess too, not much else it could be
[12:51] <fileman> installing base system
[12:52] <sethk> senning, if it asks for the domain user/password, odds are it wants the domain user/password
[12:52] <shredhead15> sethk, i have edited xorg.conf, how do i get it to save the changes
[12:52] <starla> lmanul, it says "no medium found", but it's not spinning anymore.
[12:52] <nbound> flashy-need-help, dpkg -i <filename>
[12:52] <fileman> ....I ove the smell of roasting silicone
[12:52] <senning> sethk, how do I find out what that is (or set it)?
[12:52] <sethk> shredhead15, if you are in vi, :x  (colon x, save and exit)
[12:52] <fileman> *love
[12:52] <anjin_> navarone, I dont know.  This was a handmedown system.  Not sure how to find out the vid memory.  Probably not very much,.   I tried setting it to 16bit instead of 24... that didnt help either
[12:52] <TheRyuu> ok I need to know. when you set up a dual-boot, would I have to delete everything on my drive?
[12:52] <lmanul> starla, well...
[12:52] <lmanul> starla, I'm afraid there was a problem while burning...
[12:52] <nbound> TheRyuu, nope
[12:52] <sethk> senning, it's whatever is set up on whatever box is the windows domain server
[12:53] <lmanul> starla, You can try reading this disc with other computers (apart from your ibook), but I'm afraid it will be difficult
[12:53] <sethk> senning, I try to avoid domain servers in that sort of config, and make a fake workgroup instead
[12:53] <starla> lmanul, does it help to know that the discs were once readable after they were burned?
[12:53] <navarone> anjin...it is probably very old...I have not heard of cirrus vidcards since I was using a millenium 1
[12:53] <senning> sethk, how do I do that?
[12:53] <glacious> does anyone know a config file to control xorg resolutions / refresh rates besides /etc/X11/xorg.conf ?
[12:53] <TheRyuu> is there a guide to dual-booting ubuntu with winXP I can follow?
[12:53] <nbound> lol, i have some old 1 meg cirrus cards floating round, =D
[12:53] <flashy-need-help> nbound can i pm u the error ?
[12:53] <bimberi> TheRyuu: no, the installer can shrink an existing windows partition (if its not too fragmented) to make room for ubuntu
[12:53] <sethk> senning, that's windows network configuration, and I'm no kind of windows network configuration expert
[12:53] <lmanul> starla, They were readable on the same system that burned them ?
[12:53] <nbound> flashy-need-help, if u want
[12:53] <anjin_> navarone, yeah... this is a retired server.  It is a Pentium 3 though...
[12:53] <sethk> senning, it's an install option for xp, to use a domain server or use a workgroup
[12:53] <bimberi> !dualboot
[12:53] <ubotu> I heard dualboot is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:53] <starla> lmanul, yes, that was the case.
[12:54] <lmanul> starla, Anyway, this is strange, but i'm afraid there's no easy solution...
[12:54] <senning> sethk, alrite, thanks.  I managed to get it working with smbpasswd.  Thanks for all your help, though!
[12:54] <navarone> anjin...yeah decent cpu but not much need for good vidcard on a server
[12:54] <bimberi> TheRyuu: ^^^ (the link from ubotu)
[12:54] <nbound> flashy-need-help, but i dont think they work unless ur registered with ubuntu
[12:54] <lmanul> starla, Pretty weird though
[12:54] <starla> lmanul, yes, i'm realizing that they're probably coasters...
[12:54] <sethk> hm, he's set up his linux box as a windows domain server.  Not a good idea.
[12:54] <navarone> starla at least you can invite friends over for drinks...<s>
[12:55] <ChefMedeski> can anyone help me out of Dell BIOS Swamp?
[12:55] <starla> lmanul, a friend of mine suggested booting with the live cd and seeing if I can read them after that point
[12:55] <sethk> anjin_, navarone no need for _any_ video card on a server
[12:55] <lmanul> starla, You can always try that :)
[12:55] <sethk> ChefMedeski, I can sell you a new computer  :)
[12:55] <lmanul> starla, But I would say I'm quite pessimistic
[12:55] <ChefMedeski> yeah.... i like mine
[12:55] <ChefMedeski> 3 Ghz does me well
[12:55] <anjin_> navarone, I know... I wonder if I pulled the hard drives out and stuck them in a more recent box with more RAM and a better card if that'll help.. or if I'l;l have to reinstall everything.  I've kinda worked my arse off on this thing all week to get it set up as a file server for my home.  It's just the res that's ticking me off
[12:55] <ChefMedeski> just need to know how to work linux
[12:55] <lmanul> starla, At this point, I believe it depends more on the CD reader than on the system itself
[12:55] <TheRyuu> do I *have* to defragment before I install linux?
[12:55] <starla> lmanul, alright. that's my next try... and yeah me too...   anyway, thanks for your help.  there's so much chatter in here that it was impossible to cut through. :)
[12:56] <ChefMedeski> no
[12:56] <anjin_> thanks for all the help though, everyone...
[12:56] <nbound> anjin_, doing hardware swaps like that its generally a good idea to do a clean reinstall
[12:56] <ChefMedeski> but its suggested, since a defragment will allow for more space
[12:56] <_jason> TheRyuu: for dual boot you mean?
[12:56] <TheRyuu> yeah
[12:56] <lmanul> starla, It's ok :) You might want to try asking your question again here, maybe someone will know a better solution
[12:56] <ChefMedeski> so u can better asses ur hardrive space
[12:56] <bimberi> TheRyuu: no, only if the installer won't let you resize to what you want
[12:56] <navarone> anjin I think a complete reinstall would be better if you decide to move to new case...etc
[12:56] <TheRyuu> ok
[12:56] <sethk> anjin_, seriously, I have no video card at all in my file server.  Why do you want video in the server?  why waste time on the resolution?
[12:56] <_jason> TheRyuu: I would, why not.  More importantly, make sure you have backups...
[12:56] <starla> lmanul, alright i'll come back later if I can't make progress
[12:56] <cyphase> Some very nice Gnome Mockups - http://tom.digitalelite.com/gnome_mockups/index.html
[12:57] <anjin_> sethk, because I wanted to play around with linux and learn it at the same time... using a file server as an excuse to do so. :)
[12:57] <sethk> anjin_, ok, that's fine.  I assumed you had another linux box around
[12:57] <anjin_> otherwise I'd still be using XP all the time...
[12:57] <shredhead15> sethk, i am very new to linux   and i dont understand where to enter:x
[12:57] <ChefMedeski> yeah i'm the same way anjin
[12:57] <mwe> sethk: so you just ssh to the box or sth? I had a server set up like that once
[12:57] <bimberi> TheRyuu: yes, you should back up anything important before doing this though
[12:57] <anjin_> Nope.. no other linux boxes.  This is the only one
[12:57] <ChefMedeski> learning linux on this server i'm trying to settup
[12:57] <sethk> shredhead15, that only makes sense if you are using the vi editor.  I don't know which editor you are using.
[12:57] <nbound> wine 0.9.6 is out =0
[12:57] <navarone> anjin you could reinstall with server install and then add xfce and see if that inproves things
[12:58] <sethk> shredhead15, if you are using vi, typing : (colon) puts you on the last line of the file, in command mode
[12:58] <sethk> shredhead15, you may first have to use the ESC key to get out of insert mode.
[12:58] <sethk> shredhead15, if you are using a different editor, of course, then none of that makes sense
[12:58] <anjin_> Hmm
[12:58] <mzinz> mwe, hey, i just made a symbolic link to my realplay file.  If I execute it normally it works (/usr/local/real/realplay), but when i make a symbolic link (sudo ln -s /usr/local/real/realplay /usr/local/bin/realplay) then type realplay in term, it doesn't work
[12:58] <fileman> will i need to copy the remaining packages to the hd?
[12:58] <TheRyuu> how big is the ubuntu install after it's done?
[12:58] <TheRyuu> 2GB?
[12:59] <navarone> anjin xfce is a lighter environment and may help with vid memory issues
[12:59] <anjin_> I'm going to see if generic video card drivers work better than the cirrus one... brb
[12:59] <mzinz> mwe, it shows /usr/local/bin/ in my $PATH too
[12:59] <fileman> xfce?
[12:59] <mwe> mzinz: what's it say?
[12:59] <fileman> easy to put on ubuntu
[12:59] <DShepherd> TheRyuu, maybe 3gb
[12:59] <fileman> ?
[12:59] <mwe> mzinz: maybe it's a script that relies on the name and path of the file
[12:59] <TheRyuu> ok
[12:59] <fileman> i would like it better than gnme
[12:59] <anjin_> should I try vesa?
[01:00] <mzinz> mwe, /usr/bin/realplay no such file or directory.
[01:00] <glacious> well theres an update to sound juicer... but this thing still won't let me change my refresh rate.
[01:00] <mzinz> mwe, it says its not in /usr/bin/ (which its not), but it looks in /usr/local/bin/ also, doesnt it?
[01:00] <navarone> fileman you can try xfce in standard ubuntu install . Search in synaptic and when installed you can choose xfce at login in "sessions"
[01:00] <fileman> ok
[01:00] <fileman> ill probably have trouble setting up wireless card
[01:00] <fileman> although light is on o n it
[01:00] <mwe> mzinz: I don't know. what does ls -l /usr/local/bin/realplay say?
[01:01] <navarone> fileman, I have it installed but rarely use it...it is quite spry though
[01:01] <mzinz> mwe, lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 24 2006-01-19 15:55 /usr/local/bin/realplay -> /usr/local/real/realplay
[01:01] <DShepherd> fileman, sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop <-- should get you xfce
[01:01] <fileman> i like the one with dam small linux
[01:01] <anjin_> Ok, the vid card is Cirrus Logic GD 5480 ... at least that's what the x config is saying
[01:01] <fileman> which one is that?
[01:01] <fileman> its zippy
[01:01] <mwe> mzinz: don't know. maybe the realplay script sucks
[01:01] <fileman> thaks
[01:01] <navarone> fileman, xubuntu-desktop is the xfce desktop
[01:01] <mzinz> mwe, i did it correct though?
[01:02] <mwe> mzinz: maybe if you link it to /usr/bin/realplay instead
[01:02] <mwe> mzinz: looks correct
[01:02] <fileman> copy from here and paste?
[01:02] <ITSa341> anjin  I have  a cirrus 5480   It only supported 1024x768 @ 72mhz so I replaced it
[01:02] <mzinz> mwe, yeah that works.  shouldn't the other one work too if they are both $PATH?
[01:02] <shredhead15> sethk,   ok i think i figured out how to save hopefully  but what i changed still hasnt gotten the ps/2 mouse working
[01:02] <mwe> mzinz: depends on the script
[01:02] <mzinz> mwe, i see
[01:03] <mzinz> mwe, /usr/local/bin/ actually comes before, lol
[01:03] <mobodo> if I use software raid in linux and format as fat32, will windows see it?
[01:03] <mwe> mzinz: for sane scripts yes
[01:03] <fileman> which kernel shpould i choose
[01:03] <lmanul> mzinz, For installing RealPlayer (and other useful stuff), have you tried EasyUbuntu ? :)
[01:03] <navarone> I think I need a new mouse...left button is starting to fade on me. What's the chance of finding a non usb/ps2 mouse these days...lol
[01:03] <mzinz> mwe, oh well.  i actually don't care at all, im just trying to learn
[01:03] <ChefMedeski> so, DELL BIOS anyone?
[01:03] <sethk> shredhead15, I'm really puzzled here.  I've never seen a ps/2 mouse problem, and I've never talked to anyone else who had seen one.
[01:03] <fileman> pentium ii mmx
[01:03] <glacious> ok, i guess it's time to give up on Ubuntu again for today =)   stupid unchangable refresh rates... =(
[01:03] <fileman> 128mb ram
[01:03] <sethk> shredhead15, which mouse driver is in your xorg.conf?
[01:03] <mzinz> lmanul, well i dont want it to be easy.. im trying to get the hang of unix :)
[01:03] <maddash> is there a way to record messages from a kernel panic?
[01:03] <mzinz> lmanul, what is that though?
[01:03] <sethk> shredhead15, do you have the thing running that gives you a mouse in console mode?
[01:04] <sethk> shredhead15, if so, does the mouse work in console mode?
[01:04] <mwe> mzinz: yeah. you could hack the script and submit a patch to the realplayer no brainers that made the script
[01:04] <fileman> ?
[01:04] <fileman> kernel?
[01:04] <mzinz> mwe, they would take a script from random people?
[01:04] <fileman> which one?
[01:04] <shredhead15> sethk,  how do i check if it gives me a mouse in console mode?
[01:04] <lmanul> mzinz, An easy-to-use bunch of scripts that will install lots of stuff automatically for new Ubuntu users (RealPlayer is just part of this)
[01:04] <mzinz> mwe, i like that about linux
[01:04] <geneo93> fileman:  i686
[01:04] <ITSa341> When  I got up this morning my laptop said there were 3 updates ready to install. I try installing them and I get this message http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372 . I cleared the apt-get with "sudo apt-get clean" and tried again. Same error. I searched the wiki and found nothing. Anyone got any ideas??
[01:04] <mwe> mzinz: I doubt they would
[01:04] <navarone> fileman, 386 I think
[01:04] <mzinz> lmanul, i see.
[01:04] <fileman> it has 386
[01:04] <derekS> anyone know of a way to put an html frontend onto bittornado or know of a bt client that allows me to track progress via html?
[01:04] <anjin_> aw, dont give up... :)
[01:04] <mzinz> mwe, oh, haha
[01:04] <sethk> shredhead15, go into console mode and move the mouse.  :)   try control-alt-f1
[01:04] <fileman> image-386
[01:04] <navarone> 686 for pII?
[01:04] <anjin_> No fun in that
[01:04] <mwe> mzinz: but if enough people complain maybe ..
[01:04] <mzinz> mwe, yeah
[01:04] <sethk> shredhead15, control-alt-f1 through control-alt-f6 are consoles
[01:04] <fileman> and jernel 2.6.12-9-386
[01:05] <aimaz> I've installed and configured gnump3d, but I would like it to run only when i have explicitly started it, how can i remove it from the bootup and shutdown process?
[01:05] <mzinz> mwe, thanks for your help
[01:05] <sethk> shredhead15, control-alt-f7 puts you back into GUIo mde
[01:05] <geneo93> yes it a 686 pentium is 586
[01:05] <lmanul> ITSa341, I got this too
[01:05] <dwerf> oink oink
[01:05] <fileman> ill update later
[01:05] <geneo93> sure the hell aint a 386 or 486
[01:05] <fileman> it doesnt have 686
[01:05] <lmanul> ITSa341, Not sure whether a bug report has been filed, but it's so obvious that I'm sure it will be worked out
[01:05] <geneo93> it dont on the cd
[01:05] <fileman> oh weell it will work
[01:05] <ITSa341> Imanul  I've been here all day hoping to find an anser
[01:05] <fileman> i have to get pppoe working for internet
[01:06] <mwe> sethk: not just alt-f7?
[01:06] <anjin_> well... I've had no luck at all.  I'll live with 800x600 for now and maybe devote some time to reinstalling this all on another box later :(
[01:06] <sethk> mwe, not on my boxes, no
[01:06] <anjin_> thanks to everybody who tried to help.  It's nice that there's a helpful community here
[01:06] <mwe> sethk: weird
[01:06] <lmanul> ITSa341, Well, unless you desperately need the new kernel, I would advise you wait a while and it will get fixed :)
[01:06] <lmanul> ITSa341, Your system should be perfectly usable without it, isn't it ?
[01:07] <ITSa341> Imanul  I just want to get rid of the error message and the update notification is annoying
[01:07] <ITSa341> Imanul   It's Ubuntu...Of course it works fine  :-)
[01:07] <lmanul> ITSa341, Put a piece of chewing gum on the top right of your screen :-p
[01:07] <ITSa341> LOL  Like the black tape over my service engine soon light??
[01:07] <fileman> copy remaining packages to hd?
[01:08] <shredhead15> sethk,  it crashed or something,    the mouse doesnt work in console mode
[01:08] <fileman> this is where it locked up last time
[01:08] <lmanul> ITSa341, anyway, don't worry, nothing is wrong with your system
[01:08] <mwe> I wish you could get a new keyboard for your laptop without paying about the same as a new laptop would cost :|
[01:08] <fileman> ?
[01:08] <geneo93> fileman:  it need those to finish install
[01:08] <fileman> ok
[01:09] <fileman> i hope it doesnt freeze
[01:09] <SirKillalot> do you know a handy tool to manage your mp3 player? (usb mass storage)
[01:09] <fileman> last time copying last files were really slow
[01:09] <ITSa341> Imanul: Like I said, it's working just very annoying and I am one of those people who hates things being not quite perfect
[01:09] <jclemon> my brother uses banshee w/ his
[01:09] <fileman> damn acpi
[01:09] <mwe> SirKillalot: konqueror
[01:09] <SirKillalot> jclemon, talking to me?
[01:09] <jclemon> yeah
[01:09] <SirKillalot> mwe, no, konqueror is not that handy I think
[01:09] <lmanul> ITSa341, I can understand that :) I'm like this too, but I'm afraid the best solution is just to wait a while
[01:09] <SirKillalot> It doesnt show mp3 tags and so on
[01:09] <geneo93> 128mb of ram aint much help
[01:09] <mwe> SirKillalot: what do you need?
[01:10] <fileman> i hope i have enough space in /var
[01:10] <fileman> it might not
[01:10] <SirKillalot> I dont really know what I'm searching, just programs which are especially made for that issue
[01:10] <thinkle> I want to add an option when my wireless module is loaded (modprobe iwp2200 led=1), but I can't see where this happens in startup. What do I need to edit?
[01:10] <ITSa341> 10 minutes after I installed Ubuntu on this laptop UPS delivered a set of replacement restore cd's from eMachines    I have yet to open them.
[01:10] <fileman> i didnt set it up
[01:10] <sethk> mwe, hmm, that is weird, one ubuntu box likes alt-f7 but the other doesn't.
[01:10] <navarone> fileman how big is hard drive?
[01:10] <fileman> crap
[01:10] <fileman> 6gb
[01:10] <fileman> ok its going fast this time
[01:11] <mwe> sethk: yeah odd. it's worked on all linux boxes I've come across in 10 years or so
[01:11] <sethk> shredhead15, I'm out of easy suggestions, but the fact that something crashed indicates that you have a more serious problem than just mouse configuration
[01:11] <geneo93> you only need 3 gig
[01:11] <jclemon> anyone else use Cedega w/ Ubuntu?
[01:11] <fileman> i think cpu was too hot
[01:11] <Qalimas> Does anyone know of a really good AIM client for KDE?  I'm not interested in Kopete nor Gaim, AIM only support is fine, multi-protocol support isn't needed, help is much appreciated :)
[01:11] <fileman> it was on the flor with no vents
[01:11] <sethk> mwe, I don't know that I've tried it on very many.
[01:11] <mwe> sethk: no big deal though
[01:11] <sethk> mwe, control-alt-f7 worked 12 years ago and I didn't have any reason to try other combinations.  :)
[01:11] <mwe> sethk: lol
[01:11] <fileman> it going
[01:11] <fileman> im god
[01:12] <fileman> im god
[01:12] <fileman> good
[01:12] <mwe> shut up
[01:12] <fileman> sorry mistypeing
[01:12] <NCLife> i have a problem with my other user account.. whenever i want get in, it says the session lasted less than 10 seconds and that an error has occured, something about permission denied
[01:12] <fileman> next is pppoe
[01:13] <ITSa341> bbiab
[01:13] <sethk> NCLife, unfortunately "something about permission denied" is not anything we can say anything intelligent about
[01:13] <Jeffrae> Hi
[01:13] <shredhead15> sethk,  what should I edit  in xorg.conf
[01:13] <sethk> shredhead15, check the mouse driver
[01:13] <lmanul> ITSa341, Can't find a bug about your problem, but I'll report this to the other devs
[01:13] <NCLife> sethk, let me try again and copy the error text
[01:14] <Jeffrae> What is the most economical way to pack up a personal PC running Ubuntu?
[01:14] <Ummu> how do I burn .mdf file to a DVD-RW?
[01:14] <Jeffrae> pack = back
[01:14] <Jeffrae> sorry
[01:14] <sethk> shredhead15, there should be a line with something like  Option "Protocol"  "ps/2"
[01:14] <_jason> Jeffrae: I was about to suggest a suitcase made out of recycled materials...
[01:14] <sethk> shredhead15, and, prrobably, another line with   Driver  "mouse"
[01:14] <TheRyuu> god I hate only having an 18.6GB hdd
[01:14] <Jeffrae> _jason,  hahaha
[01:15] <lmanul> Jeffrae, Lot of tools for this, but just copying your /home should work ?
[01:15] <shredhead15> sethk, yes i see them
[01:15] <Jeffrae> that seams logical
[01:15] <soundray> Jeffrae, seems like you are asking about an entire strategy...
[01:15] <sethk> shredhead15, if the protocol line is not ps/2, I'd change it and restart X and see if it helps
[01:15] <Jeffrae> I like lmanul idea
[01:15] <Ummu> is it really worth getting ubuntu 64?
[01:16] <fileman> theryuu: i have a 250gb on my desktop
[01:16] <lmanul> Jeffrae, Yeah, lots of complicated strategy :) But if you want to be simple, just backup the /home directory
[01:16] <Jeffrae> I will buy a another hard drive
[01:16] <lmanul> Jeffrae, What are you backing up on ?
[01:16] <fileman> and thats not enough
[01:16] <lmanul> Ummu, If you have a 64 cpu, then it is :)
[01:16] <Jeffrae> I think i will back up to another hard drive
[01:16] <shredhead15> sethk, what do you mean restart x?
[01:16] <soundray> Jeffrae, if it's a simple solution you're after, check out sbackup. It'll save your home and other important files to a location of your choice, all "out of the box".
[01:16] <Ummu> lmanul, I do. Does it crash alot? my friends say it does... :\
[01:16] <lmanul> Jeffrae, Ok, then that's easy, just use "cp -a"
[01:16] <navarone> okay g-night and take care folks
[01:16] <sethk> shredhead15, just that.  Kill the X server and restart it.  The simplest way to do that is control-alt-backspace
[01:17] <mwe> Jeffrae: that should be relatively fast as well. just set up a cronjob
[01:17] <lmanul> Ummu, No, I believe it's just as stable as the other archs
[01:17] <geneo93> ctrl alt backspace to restart x
[01:17] <shredhead15> sethk, ok  thanks for helping
[01:17] <Jeffrae> cool
[01:17] <Jeffrae> thanks
[01:17] <lmanul> Jeffrae, Are you familiar with the terminal, a little bit ? Do you have several users on your box ?
[01:17] <sethk> shredhead15, not sure I helped, but np
[01:17] <Ummu> lmanul, damn, I'll have to reformat again. :|
[01:17] <Ummu> Oh well
[01:17] <Jeffrae> just me
[01:17] <fileman> at lest you dont have to ctrl-alt-del like winblows =)
[01:17] <lmanul> Ummu, You can try the live CD for a start
[01:17] <Jeffrae> I use the terminal
[01:17] <nekostar> anyone have the totem crash error?
[01:17] <lmanul> Ummu, just download the 64 Live CD and try it out
[01:17] <Ummu> lmanul, I don't think a live CD might run as fast as an installed version?
[01:17] <lmanul> Ummu, You CPU is a amd64 ?
[01:17] <nekostar> open totem // push + and add file // push + /// crashes???
[01:18] <Ummu> AMD x2. :)
[01:18] <lmanul> Ummu, It sure won't, but it will let you see whether Ubuntu recognizes your harware well or not
[01:18] <lmanul> Ummu, But if you got the x86 version working fine, then I can't see a reason why it wouldn't work
[01:19] <Ummu> I tried it
[01:19] <Ummu> I thought it didn't work
[01:19] <mwe> Ummu: you're not alone
[01:19] <Ummu> but then after installing the 32 version, I realized my problem. -.-
[01:19] <Ummu> Apparently, nv drivers don't support the 6600 too well.
[01:19] <mwe> Ummu: lots of people have problems with multimedia and stuff in U64
[01:20] <Ummu> Maybe I should wait till it's silghtly more mainstream
[01:20] <lmanul> mwe, Well, I believe that's not because the 64 arch doesn't work well, but it's because hardware that come on a 64 motherboard is often quite recent
[01:21] <mwe> lmanul: maybe. however I'd miss flash and a jave plugin
[01:21] <lmanul> Ah, right :)
[01:21] <mwe> lmanul: and 32 bit chroot is to much of a hassle for me
[01:21] <frazmanw> Ummu, I really wanted to run ubuntu 64 however I have an ATI card, and no matter what I did I did not get acceleration. Otherwise it worked great
[01:21] <tatters> any command line kung fu will reset ubuntu to way it was bfr I messed with it to save having to do a clean install?
[01:21] <soundray> mwe, same here. I keep postponing the chroot thing...
[01:21] <frazmanw> So now I run 32 bit again. Temporarely
[01:22] <Ummu> frazmanw, yeah, I have a friend that had no acceleration too
[01:22] <Ummu> glxgears worked, nvidia module loaded fine
[01:22] <Ummu> but no accel.
[01:22] <shinu> how would i go about rebooting wireless srevice on a vaio laptop with inbuilt wifi?
[01:23] <soundray> shinu, rebooting? Restart with /etc/init.d/networking restart.
[01:23] <Ummu> damn it, I can't seem to copy a file to my FAT32 partition
[01:23] <Ummu> it's 4.2 gb...
[01:23] <frazmanw> Ummu, I followed the Wiki and anything anyone in here advised and no acceleratiion. But I know someone with Nvida theirs is fine. Mine is ATI X300
[01:23] <Ummu> his is nvidia 6600 gt
[01:23] <lmanul> shift, try  sudo ifdown wlan0   then   sudo ifup wlan0   ?
[01:23] <shinu> soundray: as in the drivers themselve and stuff? not the eth interfaces
[01:23] <shinu> soundray: cause it cant see the card...
[01:24] <molotov_> I'm trying remote desktop into my hoary ubuntu installation from XP and I've been successful so far with default remote desktop stuff (configured a pass and settings of course). I read though that I need Xvnc to be able to have multiple users have their own environments on the ubuntu install - is this true? I can't find what I was reading the other day and so far I'm not having any luck although I am reading this thread: http://ubun
[01:24] <molotov_> tuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76638 and am wanting to know more before I tackle the directions.
[01:24] <soundray> shinu, then maybe you can do /etc/init.d/hotplug restart -- but probably best to reboot the system.
[01:24] <shinu> soundray: oh ok, thanks
[01:24] <tracy_> how do i calculate how much memory in KB my video card has? its got 32megs of ram.
[01:25] <Ummu> is there a file size limit to cp?
[01:25] <Kensey> OK.  If I have a disk image of an ntfs filesystem, how do I resize that filesystem inside the image?
[01:25] <ubuntu> mnju
[01:25] <soundray> molotov_, you definitely don't need Xvnc to have multiple users.
[01:25] <soundray> Ummu, no, but to FAT32. 2GB.
[01:25] <molotov_> soundray, alright excellent. Do I just need multple accounts? I'd prefer to not have to have more.
[01:26] <soundray> molotov_, Ubuntu is set up by default with one user account.
[01:26] <Ummu> soundray, damn it!
[01:26] <Ummu> soundray, any way around it
[01:26] <Ummu> ?
[01:26] <Dark_Oppressor> how do i install a .deb binary under ubuntu?
[01:26] <_jason> !deb
[01:26] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[01:26] <soundray> molotov_, for multiple environments, it's easiest to create additional users.
[01:26] <Dark_Oppressor> thanks :)
[01:27] <soundray> Ummu, no, I think the FAT file size limit is pretty much cast in stone...
[01:27] <NCLife> sethk, did you read my message?
[01:28] <tatters> what mysql do I need to run mysql-snort?
[01:28] <pudland> ahh
[01:28] <mwe> 4GB isn't it
[01:28] <molotov_> soundray, hmm alright. The article/doc I was reading communicated to me that there was some way to set it up so that using one account, you could have different 'modes' for different logins - for example if I want to remote desktop with 1280x1024 and my roommate wants to use 1024x768. You're saying it's just easiest to create two accounts with identicle permissions?
[01:28] <fileman> ok it installed this time
[01:28] <fileman> yay
[01:28] <soundray> soundray, Xvnc becomes interesting if you want to provide graphical environments to multiple users *simultaneously*
[01:28] <sethk> NCLife, that means that your user doesn't have rights to his home directory.  Therefore, either his home directory is set incorrectly, or the ownership of the home directory is wrong
[01:28] <fileman> now i have to set up pppoe
[01:29] <sethk> NCLife, if /home/jean is the correct home directory, do, as root:   chown -R jean /home/jean
[01:29] <molotov_> soundray, the problem now as you probably know is that when we both VNC into the ubuntu box, we're on the same desktop moving each others folders and things around.
[01:29] <soundray> molotov_, that is definitely possible.
[01:29] <sethk> NCLife, actually, chmod -R jean:jean /home/jean is better
[01:29] <NCLife> sethk, oks
[01:29] <mwe> sethk: chown
[01:30] <soundray> molotov_, not if you run separate instances of vncserver for two users.
[01:30] <sethk> mwe, rright
[01:30] <molotov_> soundray, about what you said above ^^, that sounds like what I'm interested in. Another problem we have is that if we're not actually logged into the machine, we can't VNC.
[01:30] <sethk> mwe, I set chown the first time, screwed it up the second time
[01:30] <molotov_> soundray, hmmmm how would I run separate instances?
[01:30] <sethk> NCLife, actually, chown -R jean:jean /home/jean is better
[01:30] <mwe> sethk: yeah
[01:30] <tck> anyone use xfce4 ?
[01:30] <FliesLikeABrick> how can i blacklist certain packages so that they don't update?  I want to prevent the kernel from upgrading, but I want to be able to run dist-upgrade periodically to upgrade everything else
[01:30] <soundray> molotov_, are you coming from a MS Windows sort of background?
[01:30] <mwe> tck: for about half an hour or so
[01:31] <molotov_> soundray, yes :/ I tackled Gentoo a few times, but never for anything more than personal use.
[01:31] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: Package -> Lock Version (in Synaptic)
[01:31] <tck> mwe , the xfce4-terminal - how you found out a way to save it to a smaller window sixe
[01:31] <frazmanw> I have been a linux user for years, Gentoo Ubuntu, debian etc, But never installed a printer. I need to set up a brother mfc-3820cn in Ubuntu. Should I use cups or lpr? Cups?
[01:31] <dwerf> ahoo ahoo ahoo
[01:31] <MarcN> frazmanw: cups is the default.
[01:31] <FliesLikeABrick> bimberi  what about in a terminal, since i'm not running a GUI
[01:32] <sethk> frazmanw, definitely cups
[01:32] <mwe> tck: yeah I think the man page descibes it. it has classes you can modify in .Xresources I believe
[01:32] <tck> ok
[01:32] <tck> thx
[01:32] <mwe> tck: I refuse to use anything but aterm or urxvt in any wm though
[01:33] <NCLife> sethk, ive tried and i get the same error
[01:33] <soundray> molotov_, with Linux, you get fully separated user sessions. Graphical or not. You can log in remotely using, say, ssh; start vncserver with your personal environment and connect to that.
[01:33] <tck> xterm is too small and u cant copy/paste
[01:33] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: there's a pinning howto on the wiki - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PinningHowto - although i've heard it's not great.  Forums or Google might do better
[01:33] <mwe> tck: you can copy paste and change font/windows size in xterm
[01:33] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks bimberi, knowing that it is called "pinning" will help me track down proper help anyway
[01:33] <FliesLikeABrick> thanks
[01:33] <NCLife> sethk, im typing that command from my other account home directory, was that ok?
[01:33] <soundray> molotov_, your roommate could do the same thing at the same time, and wouldn't even notice that you are working on it, too.
[01:33] <majd> hey
[01:33] <majd> i have a bunch of .otf fonts
[01:33] <sethk> NCLife, no, I said it has to be root
[01:33] <mwe> tck: however I find urxvt far superior
[01:33] <majd> anyone care to explain to me how to install them?
[01:33] <sethk> NCLife, sudo will do
[01:33] <bimberi> FliesLikeABrick: yes indeed, np :)
[01:34] <owner> any idea why fglrx driver+2.6.15+gnome freezes ubuntu
[01:34] <owner> i can use fluxbox
[01:34] <owner> and evne play games
[01:34] <owner> but i cant start gnome
[01:34] <tck> mwe where can i get that, its not in apt sources
[01:34] <mwe> tck: just mark the text you wanna copy then press the middle button or both of you don't have one to paste
[01:34] <NCLife> sethk, yes, i typed sudo chown -R jean:jean /home/jean
[01:34] <owner> before i installed fglrx, i could get into gnome with that kernel
[01:34] <molotov_> soundray, in what you just described, we're logging into ubuntu with separate accounts correct?
[01:34] <owner> its really weird
[01:34] <mwe> tck: it is
[01:34] <soundray> molotov_, yes.
[01:34] <quad_> Can someone help me with why I can't play _any_ media files on my system?!?
[01:35] <owner> i must have stumbled upon some weird conflict
[01:35] <tck> i use the up-to-date dapper ones
[01:35] <mwe> tck: enable universe though
[01:35] <sethk> NCLife, its possible you have noclobber set for that user, and the directory or something in the directory is marked read-only
[01:35] <tck> hmmm
[01:35] <sethk> NCLife, but it would take quite a bit of work to get it that messed up.
[01:35] <mwe> !tell tck about universe
[01:35] <bimberi> ubotu tell quad_ about multimedia
[01:35] <quad_> Every file I try playing gives me a "dont have codec"-error... even simple wav and mpeg files.
[01:35] <sethk> NCLife, I would rename /home/jean and create a new one, then do the chown -R on the new one
[01:35] <molotov_> soundray, ok groovy. Thank you for your help. I'm going to go read some more docs. I really appreciate your help.
[01:35] <owner> gdm starts but gnome doesnt
[01:35] <mwe> tck: see /msg from ubotu
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> !tell quad_ about restricted
[01:36] <mwe> owner: maybe the gnome profile got hosed somehow
[01:36] <pudland> I'm having postfix issues.  could someone look at this please. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7398
[01:36] <soundray> molotov_, come back if you need help. There's usually helpful people around.
[01:36] <tck> mwe, they are in my sources
[01:36] <owner> mwe i had the same problem the other day when i tried it
[01:36] <tck> werid eh ?
[01:36] <theneonshadow> how do i add a usb webcam
[01:36] <mwe> owner: did you try renaming ~/.gnome2
[01:36] <owner> its not the profile, because the other username i made doesnt work either
[01:37] <mwe> tck: what, sorry
[01:37] <dwerf> me want snoo snoo
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell theneonshadow about webcam
[01:37] <soundray> molotov_, do you know about live CDs?
[01:38] <vir_> !tell vir_  about webcam
[01:38] <tck> mwe , hang on will try diff. sources
[01:38] <bimberi> frazmanw: ubuntu uses cups, there's an applet for setting up printers at System -> Administration -> Printers, unfortunately that printer isn't listed but if you can find a PPD file for it you can use that
[01:38] <molotov_> soundray, yes - it's how I got interested in Ubuntu in the first place :P I came off a Knoppix LiveCD, installed CollegeLinux, wrestled with Gentoo a few times, and am now trying to use linux instead of just play :D
[01:38] <mcdenyer> i just installed ubuntu and everything is slightly pink :(
[01:39] <soundray> molotov_, that's great, otherwise I would have pointed you to Ubuntu Live for starting.
[01:39] <ChefMedeski> m
[01:39] <mwe> molotov_: gentoo make your system crawl because you're compiling all the time
[01:39] <pudland> questions about postfix dep issues
[01:40] <owner> maybe i should have just stuck with 2.6.12
[01:40] <owner> people always say compiling your own kernel is faster
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> So I know lots of the internet's infrastructure runs Linux, so I just had a thought:  Can I make my computer my own ISP?
[01:40] <owner> you can tony
[01:40] <molotov_> soundray, well I consider myself somewhat able when it comes to linux (as you correctly guessed, I was raised by Gates :/) - I'm just still not trained in the linux mindset for a lot of things, like user sessions. I've never done anything like this VNC stuff, so I'm learning a lot of general stuff about this too. VNC seems a lot more point-click than it did, say 4 years ago.
[01:40] <mwe> owner: I don't think you'll notice a difference
[01:40] <sethk> owner, nobody who knows what they are talking about says compiling your own kernel is faster
[01:40] <tonyyarusso> owner: What would it take?
[01:40] <owner> u agree mwe
[01:40] <mcdenyer> i fixed the pink monitor was messed up :)
[01:40] <owner> i agree mwq
[01:40] <tck> mwe , ok using the sources from that link and still says cannot find 'urxvt'
[01:40] <owner> mwe
[01:41] <normal1_> hey anyone run tor here
[01:41] <vir_> is it normal for easycam to take ages?
[01:41] <mwe> tck: sudo apt-get update also it's rxvt-unicode
[01:41] <mcdenyer> hey i did hte automatic partition with the ext3 and the swap is that good?
[01:41] <tck> ahh unicode
[01:41] <tck> ok
[01:41] <mwe> tck: apt-cache search rxvt
[01:41] <thought_> i'm having abit of a proablem running tor
[01:41] <thought_> can anyone help by any chance
[01:41] <soundray> molotov_, recently, VNC has been used a lot to "export" local sessions. People sometimes forget how powerful it is if that is the sole use for VNC.
[01:41] <bimberi> pudland: "sudo invoke-rc.d postfix stop" then retry the install
[01:41] <mwe> owner: what?
[01:42] <tck> mwe. where did i get the u from
[01:42] <molotov_> soundray, yeah I'm learning more and more about that.
[01:42] <tck> aha urxvt :P your words :P
[01:42] <mwe> mwest: the binary in urxvt. that's what you type to start it
[01:42] <pudland> bimberi kk i'll try
[01:42] <mwe> tck: the binary in urxvt. that's what you type to start it
[01:42] <mwe> tck: the default look sucks at bit though
[01:43] <mwe> tck: you need to tweek it a little
[01:43] <tck> well can't copy/paste in the term
[01:43] <pudland> bimberi it says it stopped.  I'll try install.
[01:43] <tck> reminds of of xterm
[01:43] <mwe> tck: you can have my ~/.Xresources if you want
[01:43] <mcdenyer> mwe hey is the automatic partition good the one where it makes a primary ext3 and a logical swap?
[01:43] <mwe> tck: you can copy paste
[01:43] <tck> ok
[01:43] <mwe> tck: and get transparency
[01:43] <soundray> molotov_, but VNC is advanced and non-essential. Depending on what kind of work you need to do, you may find that "basic" tools like bash are all you need.
[01:44] <mwe> tck: mark the text. then press the middle button or left+right to paste
[01:44] <bionic> whats a good graphical wireless configuration and monitor for breezy?
[01:44] <jean> anyone played anything as good as lost labyrinth lately?
[01:44] <mwe> tck: hang. try my .Xresources if you want
[01:44] <frazmanw> I need to set up brother mfc-3820cn printer, it uses a cups-wrapper, and says it needs lpr printing system installed and running. Ubuntu comes standard with only cups???
[01:45] <bhearsum> has anyone here ever tried to install ubuntu, with an nfs root?
[01:45] <tck> mwe, the left and right workds
[01:45] <tck> i will use that :)
[01:45] <tck> thx
[01:45] <mwe> tck: want my tweaked .Xresources?
[01:45] <mwe> tck: for transparency and stuff
[01:45] <soundray> frazmanw, if you install cupsys-bsd, your system will offer lpr style commands.
[01:45] <mcdenyer> your root partition needs to be primary right?
[01:45] <frazmanw> soundray,  tks
[01:45] <tck> mwe, no thanks
[01:45] <tck> :)
[01:46] <mwe> ok
[01:46] <frazmanw> soundray, and is it normally running (as they put it?) or do i have to start it?
[01:47] <mcdenyer> mwe hey my root partition shoud be a primary ext3 right?
[01:47] <soundray> frazmanw, cups is run as a system service after boot.
[01:47] <frazmanw> soundray, and lpr with it?
[01:47] <mwe> tck: I hate the default look of it though. but try ls /usr/lib in rext then in gnome-terminal you'll see a huge difference in speed
[01:47] <soundray> frazmanw, lpr is then just an interface to the cups system.
[01:47] <mwe> tck: s/rext/rxvt/
[01:47] <molotov_> soundray, yeah that's kind of what I'm noticing. It would be nice to be able to VNC into ubuntu and have a gui for login, but I don't think it's worth the system resources anymore.
[01:48] <pudland> bimberi, i installed something lite and it updated all the lsb and postfix deps.  Thanks much
[01:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: doesn't have to be primary. extended is fine too
[01:48] <soundray> molotov_, that of course depends on how beefy your machine is.
[01:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: ext3 is a good choice
[01:48] <mcdenyer> mwe well how shold a noob like me partition?
[01:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: in general
[01:48] <tck> mwe i use xfce4 , old laptop gnome runs terribly slow on it
[01:48] <mcdenyer> mwe primary ext3 then"?
[01:48] <mwe> mcdenyer: Just go with one big / like me :)
[01:49] <mcdenyer> mwe yes i know but primary or logical?
[01:49] <owner> whats slower tck, gnome or kde
[01:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: that way you don't get problems with wrong sizes
[01:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: either
[01:49] <mwe> mcdenyer: just use a primary. it's not important
[01:49] <molotov_> soundray, well if it's greater than zero, it's too much :P The machine is beefy enough, I just hate superfluous processes and cpu cycles.
[01:49] <girl_xxx^-^> #malang
[01:50] <tck> mwe, haven't tried kde on this laptop, but when i tried xfce4 its like a new lease of life
[01:50] <mcdenyer> mwe well i have an ntfs partition from windows and then idid an auto partition and ubuntu made a primary ext3 and a logical swap
[01:50] <owner> fluxbox is good too tck
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> owner: Do you know any more about my self-ISP question, or just that it's possible?
[01:50] <soundray> molotov_, you may not like Gnome and KDE, then. Check out xubuntu.
[01:50] <mcdenyer> mwe ok i just install hoary should i update to breezy and then update orshould i update first then upgrade to breezy?
[01:51] <quad_> Why does ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin give "sudo: ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin: command not found"
[01:51] <mwe> tck: all right. you should definately run rxvt or aterm if you're short on resources. the xfce term is by no means light weight
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> quad_: Are you in the directory where the file is?
[01:51] <mcdenyer> to upgrade u just change source list and then sudo apt-get update right?
[01:51] <quad_> yes
[01:51] <soundray> quad_, chmod 755 ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin first.
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer: dist-upgrade
[01:51] <owner> tony, i think there is a program to set up dial in access
[01:51] <mwe> tck: don't bother kde if gnome is slow. it uses even more resources
[01:51] <owner> not sure what kind of isp you want to setup
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> soundray: Ah, right.  (for quad_ )
[01:51] <quad_> soundray, i have chmod -x ./RealPlayer10GOLD.bin first
[01:51] <owner> i remember reading on ubuntuforums about a similar question
[01:51] <soundray> quad_, you want +x
[01:52] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, should i update my hoary first though?
[01:52] <quad_> oh yeah :D
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> owner: I'm basically just curious what it would take to not have to pay a bill to Bell.
[01:52] <mwe> mcdenyer: I'm not sure. I think either will do
[01:52] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, or should i just upgrade to breezy then update
[01:52] <tck> mwe aye, am going to try fluxbox now :)
[01:52] <mwe> tck: good choice!
[01:52] <mwe> tck: I love flux
[01:52] <mcdenyer> mwe sudo dist-upgrade to upgrade to breezy?
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer: I think I'd suggest upgrade the hoary and then go to breezy, but I'm not sure if it matters.
[01:52] <nekostar> hey anyone get that totem add file crash error?
[01:52] <mwe> tck: and that's really light weight
[01:52] <owner> im using fluxbox right now
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer: No harm in that way anyway.
[01:53] <flashy|haha> _jason i have no luck with every package i try to install
[01:53] <mwe> mcdenyer: change all occurences of hoary to breezy in /etc/apt/sources.list first
[01:53] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, true it sudo apt-get update to update hoary right?
[01:53] <durt> when i dist-upgrade, i get this error: dpkg-deb: subprocess paste killed by signal (Broken pipe) when nvidia-glx is trying to be installed and apt-get -f install cant get past this error. how do i fix this?
[01:53] <mwe> mcdenyer: just use search/replace
[01:53] <mcdenyer> mwe wont dist-upgrade do that?
[01:53] <soundray> durt, is your filesystem full?
[01:53] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[01:53] <_jason> flashy|haha: that is because there is no java for amd64 (I think), why don't you just install the i386 version of ubuntu if you really want things like java?
[01:54] <flashy|haha> _jason there are some versions for amd64
[01:54] <mwe> mcdenyer: despite the name of the command
[01:54] <durt> soundray: no, but the error also says: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-settings', which is also in package nvidia-settings
[01:54] <soundray> _jason, there is Java for amd64, just no ff plugin.
[01:54] <mcdenyer> mwe im worried my comp isnt making as much sound as it should with gaim runnning
[01:54] <flashy|haha> soundray maybe u can help me with installing jre on amd64 ubuntu 5.04 ?
[01:54] <molotov_> soundray, actually I saw that I could get fluxbox for ubuntu, that was interesting. Since this machine is acting as a server, I'm somewhat in the market for a slimmed GUI.
[01:55] <mcdenyer> mwe like when people login it doesnrt make noise
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer: update updates the sources list / package cache.  upgrade gets new versions of files.  dist-upgrade will get you to breezy from hoary.
[01:55] <_jason> soundray: can you tell flashy|haha where he can find it.  He has been try for hours now
[01:55] <jariep1_> how do you switch between different installed versions of java in ubuntu?
[01:55] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:55] <soundray> durt, 'sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/<packagename>'
[01:56] <quad_> soundray, I installed the Realplayer, but when i click the link, it wont start?!
[01:56] <soundray> flashy|haha, I can give you a URL that I followed... let me dig it up.
[01:56] <flashy|haha> well
[01:56] <soundray> quad_, will it start from the command line?
[01:56] <quad_> dno.. whats the cmd?
[01:57] <mcdenyer> mwe woah so theres a command that replaces hoary word to breezy?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer: yes thanks to sed :)
[01:57] <rendi> hi what command to see my mysql version
[01:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: right :)
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer: Yeah, you can get it to replace pretty much anything you want in any ascii file.
[01:57] <mcdenyer> mwe sed: -e expression #1, char 14: unterminated `s' command
[01:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: sed
[01:57] <quad_> soundray, realplay, got it... but its not starting
[01:57] <soundray> flashy|haha, have you downloaded the right package from sun?
[01:57] <mcdenyer> mwe thats what i got in response to that commanhd that good?
[01:57] <mwe> mcdenyer: you typed it wrong then
[01:58] <flashy|haha> soundray i have only a dedicated server no x-server or so
[01:58] <durt> thanks soundray, force-all did the trick
[01:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: I did too. sorry
[01:58] <bimberi> jariep1_: sudo update-alternatives --config java
[01:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/' /etc/apt/sources.list && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: there you go
[01:58] <flashy|haha> soundray i cant download it because dl adress is to long
[01:58] <mwe> mcdenyer: missed trailing /
[01:58] <jariep1_> ok
[01:58] <jariep1_> thanks bimberi
[01:58] <quad_> maybe I should stop running ubuntu on my 600 MHz, it seems its having enough to work with!
[01:58] <bimberi> rendi: dpkg -l | grep mysql
[01:58] <ChefMedeski> so
[01:59] <ChefMedeski> anyone knows DELL BIOS well?
[01:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: did you get that?
[01:59] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm says no such file or directory
[01:59] <ChefMedeski> I nned some help with GRUB
[01:59] <soundray> flashy|haha, can you not download on another machine then?
[01:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: what?
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> Oh, sad, he left.
[01:59] <mcdenyer> mwe mcdenyer@MarksBox:~$ sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/'
[01:59] <mcdenyer> sed: can't read -: No such file or directory
[01:59] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ChefMedeski about grub
[01:59] <mwe> mcdenyer: it's not complete
[01:59] <travishafer1992> Can anyone tell me what I need to get gcc working?
[02:00] <mwe> mcdenyer: sudo sed -i 's/hoary/breezy/' /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:00] <travishafer1992> I'm a linux newbie.
[02:00] <mcdenyer> mwe lol ok
[02:00] <flashy|haha> soundray i tried that and wget then to the box but after accepting the rules it said its corrupted
[02:00] <bimberi> travishafer1992: sudo aptitude install build-essential
[02:00] <gnomefreak> travishafer1992: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:00] <soundray> travishafer1992, 'sudo apt-get install build-depends'
[02:00] <blacks> travishafer1992, apt-get install build-essential
[02:00] <travishafer1992> Thanks
[02:00] <_jason> wow
[02:00] <soundray> unisono :)
[02:00] <bimberi> darn, 1- 3
[02:00] <gnomefreak> :)
[02:00] <hyphenated> now, who actually got the answer right? :-)
[02:00] <soundray> hyphenated, not me :)
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Anyone else have any idea how difficult / what hardware it would take for someone to make their computer into an ISP for themself?  (This question is basically curiosity, wondering what it would take to not have to pay the phone company every month...)
[02:01] <_jason> soundray: -1
[02:01] <gnomefreak> lol soundray
[02:01] <hyphenated> soundray: indeed. and blacks only get's half a point for missing sudo
[02:01] <gnomefreak> you were close :)
[02:01] <bimberi> and apt-get is so 5mins ago, so i win :P
[02:02] <gnomefreak> lol
[02:02] <gnomefreak> apt-get is shorter than aptitude
[02:02] <flashy|haha> soundray i tried that and wget then to the box but after accepting the rules it said its corrupted
[02:02] <blacks> wow I thought aptitude was kubuntu-only, didn't know I had it
[02:02] <mcdenyer> why is it so bad to write to an ntfs from linux?>
[02:02] <gnomefreak> blacks: apt comes from aptitude
[02:02] <travishafer1992> What do I need to get tcl working?
[02:02] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer: dangerouse unsafe
[02:02] <mwe> mcdenyer: because it unsafe
[02:02] <mcdenyer> how much better is cedega from wine?
[02:02] <blacks> mcdenyer, because captive-ntfs is insanely slow, and the kernel ntfs is unsafe
[02:02] <bimberi> soundray: thanks :)
[02:03] <flashy|haha> travishafer1992 apt-get install tcl8.4
[02:03] <travishafer1992> Thanks.
[02:03] <mcdenyer> mwe, becuase of viruses?
[02:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: no
[02:03] <flashy|haha> and tk8.4 too
[02:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: because it can go wrong
[02:03] <flashy|haha> travishafer1992 tk8.4 too
[02:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: can hose files and stuff
[02:03] <aubs_> hey guys, i downloaded the live disc, but when i try to boot from it, after i pick a language and country, it says it can't ID my cd drive...
[02:03] <tonyyarusso> blacks: What's captive-ntfs?
[02:03] <soundray> flashy|haha, did you check the file size at each stage? Maybe one of the downloads was incomplete.
[02:03] <aubs_> even though its obviously reading from it
[02:03] <mcdenyer> mwe aww but its ok to copy files form an ntfs right?
[02:03] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah
[02:03] <flashy|haha> its all complete soundray
[02:03] <mcdenyer> mwe k cool
[02:03] <boodle> anyone getting xorg-server to work in dapper right now (font problems it looks like)
[02:03] <blacks> tonyyarusso, it uses some reactos stuff, and a ntfs.sys from a windows install to emulate the windows ntfs driver.  fairly safe, but pretty slow
[02:04] <mcdenyer> hey how much better is cedega from wine?
[02:04] <soundray> tonyyarusso, a solution for writing to NTFS that uses Windows' own dlls.
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> boodle: I think X is known broken in dapper at the moment.
[02:04] <flashy|haha> i try again soundray
[02:04] <gnomefreak> boodle: the fix is fairly easy :)
[02:04] <crimsun> boodle: check the /usr/X11R6/bin/X and /usr/bin/X11/X symlinks
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> blacks, soundray: Ah.
[02:04] <aubs_> hey guys, i downloaded the live disc, but when i try to boot from it, after i pick a language and country, it says it can't ID my cd drive... even though its obviously reading from it to get that far
[02:04] <Kyral> mcdenyer: its good enough to pay 5 a month
[02:04] <boodle> crimsun tyvm!
[02:04] <soundray> flashy|haha, sorry, I don't think there's any other way.
[02:04] <mcdenyer> mwe btw i changed the hoary to breezy then sudo apt-get update and am now sudo dist-upgrade
[02:04] <crimsun> boodle: they need to be valid, i.e., point to /usr/bin/Xorg
[02:04] <mcdenyer> kyral that good?
[02:04] <mwe> mcdenyer: thanks to M$ closed specs of ntfs all the work is done by reverse engeniering. makes it kinda hard
[02:04] <quad_> Just rebooted, and now my mouse aint working - what do I do??
[02:04] <gnomefreak> boodle: replace /usr/X11r6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf
[02:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah and pray
[02:05] <Kyral> mcdenyer Hey it lets me play NFSU2 and JA :D
[02:05] <blacks> quad_, click to the system administration menu
[02:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: it should work
[02:05] <Kyral> At Native :P
[02:05] <aubs_> hey guys, i downloaded the live disc, but when i try to boot from it, after i pick a language and country, it says it can't ID my cd drive... even though its obviously reading from it to get that far
[02:05] <quad_> blacks, how??
[02:05] <mcdenyer> mwe pray? :/
[02:05] <blacks> sorry, was trying to be funny.  heheh
[02:05] <dwerf> hi people, somehow, i deleted my trash-can from the dock at the bottom ... hoe stupid is that?
[02:05] <aubs_> sigh, i have a sinking feeling im not gonna get a lot of help...?
[02:05] <quad_> :|
[02:05] <mcdenyer> kyral u ever installed steam with it?
[02:05] <Kyral> dwerf: not?
[02:05] <mwe> mcdenyer: you could get into trouble but you shouldn't :)
[02:05] <Kyral> mcdenyer: yah...I think lol
[02:05] <gnomefreak> aubs_: did you check the md5sum of the iso?
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> dwerf: Right click, "Add to Panel", > Trash.
[02:05] <quad_> Anyone??
[02:06] <soundray> blacks :D
[02:06] <dwerf> Kyral - how to fix it?
[02:06] <Kyral> I installed HL
[02:06] <mcdenyer> mwe why would i get into trouble im just updating ;/
[02:06] <flashy|haha> soundray ill try it again
[02:06] <aubs_> gnomefreak: how would i do that?
[02:06] <Kyral> dwerf: right click?
[02:06] <blacks> dwerf, right click an empty spot on the top title bar, and go "add to panel"
[02:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: some people have reported problems doing it
[02:06] <quad_> guess ill reboot again and see if it goes away...
[02:06] <mcdenyer> kyral is it pretty easy to use like pretty automatic
[02:06] <gnomefreak> aubs_: what operating system are you using?
[02:06] <mzinz> I have a great wireless connection, and i was just downloading at like 100kb/sec on my laptop, but webbrowsing is SUPER slow with opera and firefox1.5... any idea why or clues what i could change?
[02:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: because so much changes in a new release
[02:06] <mcdenyer> mwe  :(
[02:06] <Kyral> mcdenyer: kinda?
[02:06] <aubs_> XP, unfortunately... (and thus the trying to shift to ubuntu)
[02:06] <dwerf> Kyral > hey there's another load of linux presents!
[02:06] <Kyral> mcdenyer: gotta install
[02:06] <dwerf> Kyral > thanx!
[02:06] <fileman> i have a big problem
[02:06] <mwe> mcdenyer: if you get trouble it's fixable, probably thouhg
[02:06] <mcdenyer> kyral well i used wine and it was kind of a pain
[02:07] <gnomefreak> aubs_: you have to find a tool to download i havent uised xp tfor that in long time
[02:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: I had a few problems doing it but I fixed it
[02:07] <Kyral> mcdenyer: it has a GUI
[02:07] <fileman> from the command line how do i post setup
[02:07] <fileman> it failed
[02:07] <aubs_> ok ill google it up
[02:07] <fileman> cpu got too hot i think
[02:07] <gnomefreak> unfortunately i dont remember the name of it :(
[02:07] <mcdenyer> mwe well i did an update before but i did it differently
[02:07] <fileman> locked up
[02:07] <mcdenyer> mwe i just changed sourcelist and then did sudo apt-get update
[02:07] <mwe> mcdenyer: just sudo apt-get dist-upgrade. I think it will work
[02:07] <mcdenyer> mwe i didnt do the dist-upgrade
[02:07] <flodine> anyone try intels dual core chip on ubuntu yet?
[02:07] <soundray> Cheers friends, see you all
[02:07] <geneo93> fileman:  it should contiue on its own
[02:08] <mcdenyer> mwe yeah i did its doing it now
[02:08] <fileman> it didnt
[02:08] <fileman> it saidd error
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> flodine: I heard someone say once that they had, no idea with what results.
[02:08] <fileman> i pressed enter
[02:08] <fileman> and wen to login
[02:08] <fileman> text mode
[02:08] <fileman> there is no x
[02:08] <gnomefreak> upgrade before you dist-upgrade is not an issue just make sure you have ubuntu-desktop installed before you go from hoary to breezy :)
[02:08] <mcdenyer> kyral cool\
[02:08] <mcdenyer> kyral gonna go get dads credit card muhahahaha
[02:08] <geneo93> fileman try startx
[02:08] <Kyral> lol
[02:08] <fileman> i did
[02:09] <fileman> command not found
[02:09] <mwe> mcdenyer: I think font paths has changed. you should edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf if S complains about missing fonts or wrong font paths
[02:09] <fileman> setup didnt finish
[02:09] <mwe> mcdenyer: s/S/X/
[02:09] <geneo93> put it in the frige when you do it next time fileman
[02:09] <flodine>  tonyyarus just wanted to know will have one monday hope it works
[02:10] <fileman> lol
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> flodine: Good luck with it!
[02:10] <fileman> acpi make lappy HOT
[02:10] <flodine>  tonyyarus if not going to amd 64
[02:10] <fileman> ill just keep it off my bed
[02:10] <mwe> is hard modding a console illegal in the US?
[02:10] <ChefMedeski> do any of u know how to install firefox 1.5?
[02:10] <geneo93> fileman:  u tried no apci
[02:11] <flashy|hehe> soundray is gone
[02:11] <flashy|hehe> that suxx
[02:11] <_jason> ubotu: tell ChefMedeski about ff1.5
[02:11] <bimberi> !firefox1.5
[02:11] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:11] <mcdenyer> kyral hey u wouldnt happen to know if cedega can run quickbooks would ya?
[02:11] <frazmanw> trying to install brother cupswrapper driver for my mfc-3820cn. getting this error  ****** ERROR: csh is required. ******   what do i do?
[02:11] <mcdenyer> can cedega run quickbooks
[02:11] <ChefMedeski> thanks jason
[02:11] <flashy|hehe> _jason i try now with my own comp and upload it after download to my linux box and hope that it work then
[02:11] <Kyral> mcdenyer: Cedega says itself that Cedega is for Games, WINE is for Apps
[02:11] <mcdenyer> kyral hmm ok
[02:11] <_jason> flashy|hehe: good luck, you've certainly been working hard enough to deserve java :)
[02:12] <niten__> !win me
[02:12] <ubotu> niten__: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:12] <niten__> sure, it is like, I win...
[02:12] <mwe> wine runs like 1/1000 windows apps
[02:12] <flashy|hehe> hehe _jason i work now 3 hours on it
[02:12] <mwe> same odds for cedega substituting apps for games
[02:12] <flashy|hehe> and im get pissed of ubuntu more and more _jason
[02:12] <Kyral> why would you use Windows apps on Linux anyway ;P
[02:13] <boodle> welp got xserver (xorg) 'working' but fonts my issue...can't find fixed fonts.. (always have hated xwindows font stuff...) any easy way to setup fonts?
[02:13] <mwe> Kyral: because some simply doesnt have good alternatives
[02:13] <Kyral> Emacs for all ;P
[02:13] <mzinz> I have a great wireless connection, and i was just downloading at like 100kb/sec on my laptop, but webbrowsing is SUPER slow with opera and firefox1.5... any idea why or clues what i could change?
[02:13] <flashy|hehe> 20 minutes to upload
[02:13] <jago25_98> boodle: automagix or whatever it's called
[02:13] <frazmanw> trying to install brother cupswrapper driver for my mfc-3820cn. getting this error  ****** ERROR: csh is required. ******   is this the csh in apt repo.... the login shell?
[02:13] <boodle> jago25_98 cool, will try it thank you!
[02:14] <mwe> Kyral: comparing gimp to photoshop is like comparing a calculator to pc for one thing
[02:14] <Kyral> !csh
[02:14] <ubotu> No idea, Kyral
[02:14] <quad_> There that did it...
[02:14] <jago25_98> boodle: via ubuntu forums
[02:14] <Kyral> !info csh
[02:14] <ubotu> csh: (Shell with C-like syntax, standard login shell on BSD systems), section universe/shells, is optional. Version: 20050313-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 233 kB, Installed size: 384 kB
[02:14] <boodle> jago25_98 ah ok..not seeing it via apt-cache
[02:14] <Kyral> mwe: I had this blowout like 5 weeks ago in #ubuntuforums lol
[02:14] <gnomefreak> open terminal and type csh
[02:14] <mwe> Kyral: ok
[02:14] <Kyral> but then again I don't do GFX design
[02:14] <aubs_> gnomefreak: i checked the md5sum and its ok
[02:15] <bionic> whats wrong when i cant play mp3s in xmms with regular user, but with root i can?
[02:15] <gnomefreak> aubs_: what speed did you burn the iso at?
[02:15] <jago25_98> bionic: permissions on /dev/dsp
[02:15] <Kyral> that XPM I made for EasyChem is the best I can do lol
[02:15] <aubs_> 52x
[02:15] <aubs_> actually, now that i think about it, it said it "avoided an error" while burning
[02:15] <gnomefreak> aubs_: reburn it at 2x if you can lowest the better
[02:15] <aubs_> ill try again at a slower speed
[02:15] <gnomefreak> aubs_: slow as you can
[02:15] <gkd> I'm trying to install gcc-4.0, but when I try a compile, I'm still missing libraries : "test.c:1:19: error: stdio.h: No such file or directory". I'm using synaptic, and I installed anything that sounds like gcc4. Any thoughts on what I'm doing wrong? Thanks.
[02:16] <aubs_> thanks
[02:16] <username011806> so mates.. just me?.. or unnofficial kubuntu faq supporting apt sources others have warned will bork my install please?.. ty.. i.e. multiverse etc?
[02:16] <Kyral> gkd: sudo apt-get install build-essiential
[02:16] <blacks> gkd, build-essential
[02:16] <gnomefreak> gkd: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:16] <Kyral> username011806: Universe and Multiverse are official
[02:16] <mwe> Kyral: if you don't need your games and can live without your favorite windows apps there is no need to run wine though :) I must admit I have vmwary for a few I can't live without though
[02:16] <mzinz> Anyone know of any good network monitoring software?
[02:16] <Kyral> lol
[02:16] <gnomefreak> Kyral: when did multiverse become offical?
[02:16] <quad_> Have anyone got a link to a good guide on how to make CUPS and Samba??
[02:17] <Kyral> gnomefreak: uhh....for as long as I can remember?
[02:17] <Kyral> before Backports was
[02:17] <blacks> is there a decent linux nzb-enabled multithreaded newsreader?
[02:17] <quad_> I cant get my win to see the ubuntu server?!
[02:17] <mwe> quad_: how to make them?
[02:17] <frazmanw> I am installing cupswrapper for my brother printer, during dpkg i get  /etc/init.d/cups: Command not found.
[02:17] <frazmanw> 
[02:17] <gnomefreak> i could have sworn multiverse was unofficial a few months ago
[02:17] <Kyral> no...
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh
[02:17] <gnomefreak> ok :) ty
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> quad_: !samba point to the wiki for it, which will at least get you started, and then come back if you have issues configuring.
[02:18] <quad_> mwe, filesharing are working fine, its the printshare that boughters me.
[02:18] <mwe> quad_: oh. there's a great wiki
[02:18] <transgress_> okay when i try to connect my desktop directly to my modem after it's been connected to the router, and then run ifup, it tries searching the for the dhcp from the router instead of whatever is being broadcasted from the modem
[02:18] <transgress_> is there a way to fix this?
[02:18] <mwe> quad_: ok. did you search wiki.ubuntu.com?
[02:18] <bionic> jago25_98: ow the problem was that i tried to run the mp3 from the windows partition, seems like root is the only one with access to do that.. i could read the files tho
[02:18] <mwe> quad_: there are a few great wikis there
[02:18] <mzinz> Anyone know of any good network monitoring software?
[02:18] <quad_> tonyyarusso, i have been trying all day... and i hornestly dont know too much about it.
[02:18] <Kyral> mzinz: like flow in and out?
[02:18] <mwe> mzinz: netstat
[02:18] <quad_> and mwe
[02:19] <jago25_98> bionic: fstab, uid=user you want is one method
[02:19] <mwe> quad_: did you search wiki.ubuntu.com?
[02:19] <username011806> Kyral: coolness.. ty muchly mate ;] 
[02:19] <mzinz> Kyral, yeah, we have like 20 computers in this house and i
[02:19] <bionic> jago25_98: i will try, then mount -a? thanks
[02:19] <gkd> Hey, great! That worked. Thanks to all. How should I have seen that was necessary? man gcc? None of the notes for gcc items alluded to that in the synaptic window.
[02:20] <bimberi> quad_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[02:20] <jago25_98> bionic: er, maybe. I usually umount & mount again
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> quad_: Well, to be honest with you, cdubya walked me through it for the first time last month, but I can try to tell you something if nobody else can.
[02:20] <mzinz> Kyral, i'd like to see how many packets are going where
[02:20] <quad_> mwe, tonyyarusso, It seems i have the printer installed, and it is working locally, the CUPS has it added, but I just cant find it over the network.
[02:20] <Kyral> mzinz: thats beyond the scope of my network knowledge
[02:20] <gnomefreak> gkd: i dont think there is pages that say it is nesscesary but it is the most commonly used and it packages a bunch of things you might need in future :)
[02:20] <frazmanw> I am installing cupswrapper for my brother printer, during dpkg i get  /etc/init.d/cups: Command not found.  I looked there and there is no cups. Why? there is a cupsys
[02:20] <fileman> now i just get the login screen
[02:21] <mwe> quad_: please read the wiki
[02:21] <mwe> quad_: it has all the info you need
[02:21] <fileman> is it in /sbin
[02:21] <bionic> jago25_98: worked like a charm, appreciate it
[02:21] <quad_> mwe, tonyyarusso, bimberi, Yes, I will try hacking through that wiki
[02:21] <mzinz> mwe, I'm trying to see what packets are going where on my network.  Any idea if anythings capable of that?  Modem>Router>Switch>hosts
[02:21] <jago25_98> bionic:  np
[02:21] <fileman> or /usr/bin?
[02:21] <mwe> quad_: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkPrintingFromWinXP
[02:21] <tonyyarusso> quad_: Also didn't do network printing, just file sharing, so I really can't help you there.
[02:21] <gnomefreak> what is dpkg i supposed to do?
[02:21] <jago25_98> mzinz: iftop, nettop, traceroute, netstat -lrp
[02:21] <quad_> tonyyarusso, ah... well my filesharing is perfect, so :)
[02:22] <mwe> mzinz: traceroute maybe
[02:22] <gnomefreak> frazmanw: try dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:22] <mzinz> mwe, the terminal command?
[02:22] <mwe> mzinz: yeah. read man traceroute first though
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> quad_: A good place to start at least!
[02:22] <mzinz> mwe, well i'd really like something like graphical if possible.  there are about 20 computers and if i could see what was going where it would be easier lol. but maybe not possible
[02:22] <bimberi> mzinz: tracepath (traceroute isn't installed by default)
[02:22] <mzinz> mwe, k
[02:22] <mzinz> bimberi, k
[02:23] <fileman> post setup from command line?
[02:23] <fileman> it would save a lot of time
[02:23] <Blackdog456> i use ethereal for traceing packets...it may be an overkill here
[02:23] <frazmanw> gnome i am doing dpkg -i --force-all cupswrappermfc3820cn_1.0.0-2_i386.deb
[02:23] <frazmanw>   however I get an error during it saying /etc/init.d/cups: Command not found. an I missing somethinf for cups, or do I have to add cups to init.d?
[02:23] <transgress_> anyone?  i need to be able to connect directly through my modem, but when i try ifup it hangs because it's looking for the dhcp from my router...
[02:23] <frazmanw> gnomefreak, see above mistyped your name
[02:24] <jago25_98> transgress: I need much more info. cable modem, ethernmet conn, dialup, adsl, satalite or other?
[02:25] <Snarkfish> adriyel,  :] 
[02:25] <gnomefreak> frazmanw: you shouldnt have to add cups anywhere :( im not real sure why you are getting that error do you have cups install? sorry have to ask :(
[02:25] <adriyel> Snarkfish, hola
[02:26] <mzinz> bimberi, for some reason my webbrowsing is *really* slow, but I can DL fine and can browse fine on windows. any idea
[02:26] <flashy|hehe> _jason it wont work anyways
[02:26] <bimberi> frazmanw: it's cupsys
[02:26] <fileman> please help
[02:26] <frazmanw> gnomefreak, cups is installed by default right? I have supsys and server etc
[02:26] <_jason> flashy|hehe: errors?
[02:26] <flashy|hehe> same
[02:26] <flashy|hehe> corrupted
[02:26] <flashy|hehe> but file size is okay
[02:26] <Snarkfish> adriyel, lol.. I just found something interesting. Searching for "Sourceforge" on google gives you sourceforge.net, and the second is audacity.sourceforge.net :))
[02:26] <Snarkfish> :P
[02:26] <aubs_> hey gnome
[02:26] <Snarkfish> <3 Audacity.
[02:26] <gnomefreak> frazmanw: yes installed by default under the default install
[02:26] <_jason> flashy|hehe: you may just need to use the 32 bit one and use a chroot
[02:26] <gnomefreak> aubs?
[02:27] <gnomefreak> aubs_: work better?
[02:27] <flashy|hehe> _jason is dedicated cant choose the system
[02:27] <aubs_> so i reburned it (at 8x because thats as low as nero will let me for some reason), and this time it said "avoided 2 buffer underrun errors"
[02:27] <aubs_> as opposed to one the first time
[02:27] <transgress> jago25_98: it's a cable modem.  ethernet.
[02:27] <wakest> I have a question, whats the difference between kubuntu and ubuntu other then one has kde and one has gnome, is there any other diffs?
[02:27] <bimberi> mzinz: hard to say, there's some tip somewhere about disabling ipv6 in about:config in FF
[02:27] <mzinz> bimberi, k
[02:27] <tobeya> anybody else on dapper having trouble with the nvidia drivers? Xlib:  extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0"
[02:27] <czar> Im having a problem getting the FTP server on my box to work. What packages do I need to install? I installed the `ftp` package. What else do I need?
[02:27] <Snarkfish> I'm actually looking for some sources to compile, just to make sure I have all the common libs necessary for such. I couldn't get StepMania to compile properly... There was apparently a problem in the C++ code.
[02:27] <Snarkfish> adriyel, , it was very strange.
[02:27] <_jason> wakest: that's basically it... of course kubunut has kde apps while gnome has gnome apps by default
[02:28] <fileman> oh crap i think the cpu fan died
[02:28] <gnomefreak> aubs_: i dont use nero :( check the settings for iso image make sure everything is good the only other issue i can thin of is md5 is bad or bad cd :(
[02:28] <fileman> errk...errk
[02:28] <Snarkfish> Well.. You'd BETTER turn your computer off and find out
[02:28] <Snarkfish> :] 
[02:28] <_jason> fileman: turn off your computer then
[02:28] <jago25_98> transgress: so it works on windows? On Windows the cable modem gives Windows an IP via dhcp but not linux. what modem is it? plugged straight  into your box or via router?
[02:28] <frazmanw> gnomefreak, when installing using dpkg -i --force-all I get setting up............etc, but errors as that error. Is there a cups file or link etc that needs to be in init.d?
[02:28] <wakest> but if you apt-get kde, is there any difference
[02:28] <grew> can anyone tell me why when i do an apt-get update each source takes forever while saying [Waiting for Headers] ?
[02:28] <Snarkfish> I unplugged my cpu fan on one mobo
[02:28] <aubs_> well i think buffer underrun is related to the actual burning process, not the iso, right?
[02:28] <bimberi> mzinz: network.dns.disableIPv6 - set to True
[02:28] <Snarkfish> Proc idled normal at about 140F
[02:28] <Snarkfish> It burnt out at about .. 250F
[02:28] <Elsan_> Is Kubuntu.org down? I can't ping it from a website or access it...
[02:28] <mzinz> bimberi, just found it :)
[02:29] <Snarkfish> :] 
[02:29] <gnomefreak> aubs_: thats what i would think too
[02:29] <bimberi> mzinz: hope it helps :)
[02:29] <aubs_> not to mention, it seems like a weird error to get unless its a hardware issue...
[02:29] <gnomefreak> aubs_: but seeing as there is only a few things involved in burning
[02:29] <grew> it seems to download the files just fine but it just sits there afterwards
[02:29] <jago25_98> Elsan_: it pngs 4 me
[02:29] <aubs_> yeah :-\
[02:29] <gnomefreak> aubs_:  it very well could be hardware
[02:30] <quad_> bimberi, tonyyarusso, when I restart the damon it says; cupsd: Child exited with status 98!
[02:30] <Elsan_> jago25_98: can you access it from a browser? I can't from my browser and I can't access the repository and I need an app...
[02:30] <j2daosh> ok... got a queation
[02:30] <jago25_98> transgress: when i had a similar annoyance with WIFI I used `dhcpclient`
[02:30] <jago25_98> Elsan_: nah, in bed and no wireless mouse! :D
[02:31] <j2daosh> how do i shrink a dvd to fit on a disc... i cant get dvd shrink to work properly... is there another program that will do the same thing?
[02:31] <quad_> bimberi, tonyyarusso, I probably changed the worng things erlier on...
[02:31] <aubs_> i checked the ubuntu site, and it doesnt mention any hardware conflicts... but like i said, the install process says that some systems need like an extra line (it mentions dell notebooks)... so im guessing i need one of those, or to load cd-rom drivers via floppy... but i cant find any hardware conflicts on the site, and im not using anything thats not common (samsung + lite-on drives, asus p5ad2-e mobo)
[02:31] <Elsan_> Can anyone access www.kubuntu.org?
[02:31] <grew> does anyone have any idea what could be causing this issue?
[02:31] <quad_> Is there a way to recreate the original file? (i thought i backed it up :(
[02:31] <smartblonde> can anyone help me with some wireless networking issues?
[02:32] <jago25_98> j2daosh: there's some sort of gui similar in effect to dvdshrink on win32, guides you through transcode and shrinking but can't remember name. apt-cache search dvd will get it after a trawl
[02:32] <Blackdog456> i"ll give wireleess a crack
[02:32] <Snarkfish> Wireless is fun.
[02:32] <flashy|hehe> its down Elsan_
[02:32] <smartblonde> ohh yeah
[02:33] <smartblonde> okay, i can't get it to detect my broadcom 4306 card
[02:33] <luowei> Is there any Chinese?
[02:33] <Blackdog456> card type you use?
[02:33] <jago25_98> quad_: apt-get --reinstall install <package> that supplies the file, possiblly findable from apt-file or apt-cache maybe
[02:33] <flashy|hehe> any germans in here ?
[02:33] <bimberi> quad_: is this cupsd.conf?
[02:33] <Elsan_> flashy|hehe: I uninstaleld SuperKaramba by error and I need it :(
[02:33] <quad_> bimberi, Yes, it is
[02:33] <gnomefreak> #ubuntu-de =german
[02:34] <bimberi> quad_: i think mine is fairly vanilla - i'll put it on the pastebin
[02:34] <quad_> That be great!
[02:34] <smartblonde> ive been trying to get ndiswrapper to work, but it tells me the drivers are invalid
[02:34] <flashy|hehe> thx gnomefreak
[02:34] <gnomefreak> yw
[02:34] <nvez> ..that means the drivers are invalid, smartblonde?
[02:34] <Blackdog456> is your broadcom card on Linex approved list?
[02:34] <gnomefreak> <<<<:X
[02:34] <smartblonde> yeah other people have used it and gotten it to work
[02:35] <jago25_98> smartblonde: ndiswrapper only then? other .sys windows drivers available maybe, to try win2k drivers
[02:35] <smartblonde> well duh they are invalid but i can't get the new ones i downloaded to install properly
[02:35] <jago25_98> Blackdog456: I  think he's using ndiswrapper, so that's a from Windows drivers workaround
[02:35] <smartblonde> i've been trying different things all day, but no one site can give me any answers
[02:36] <j2daosh> smartblonde, what are you trying to do?
[02:36] <transgress> jago25_98: sorry running around a bit.  it is plugged into the router right now.  but i need to go straight to the modem, to test to see if it is my connection that is bad or if it's the router.  but when i try connecting straight through the modem, ifup and dhcpclient seem to hang looking for the dhcp broadcast from the router still.
[02:36] <jago25_98> smartblonde: the card may simply not work, unless I@m mistaken and ndiswrapper works with all windows drivers
[02:36] <luowei> what do you talk about
[02:36] <transgress> jago25_98: it seems it caches the information somewhere and checks the same place twice maybe?
[02:36] <smartblonde> okay, it  sees my card in the device manager
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> alfred: Sweet, you're in my town.  (If any follow-up, #ubuntu-offtopic)
[02:36] <smartblonde> however, i can not get wlan0 to show up
[02:37] <luowei> i have seen your content of chating for a long time
[02:37] <quad_> bimberi, you getting there?
[02:37] <smartblonde> yes, my card does work because i can use it in windows and i am connected with a wire now
[02:37] <jago25_98> transgress: yeah, go manual for tetsing, so that's ifconfig eth0 up and dhcpclient eth0 and see where it sticks
[02:37] <mzinz> Whats RPM? is it a distro?
[02:37] <bimberi> quad_: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7399 (sorry - slow dialup link here :) )
[02:38] <flashy|hehe> rpm is for suse
[02:38] <j2daosh> smart... it shows up in the device manager or in network tools?
[02:38] <flashy|hehe> its package managment
[02:38] <luowei> byebye ,everyone,superior
[02:38] <transgress> jago25_98: okay.  i'll go give that a try.  maybe i'll be able to get online.  thanks
[02:38] <ITSa341> Why would my cdrw/dvd not recognize any dvds in ubuntu but work fine in windows? It reads cdroms fine in ubuntu also.
[02:38] <smartblonde> device manager
[02:39] <j2daosh> look in the network tools and see if it is there and just not enabled
[02:39] <gnomefreak> !dvd
[02:39] <ubotu> Dvd plyaing is possible in Ubuntu with totem, vlc mplayer and other players. You may need !libdvdcss.
[02:39] <jago25_98> smartblonde: you need to: 1) figure out if a true linux driver is available (kernel module) and if so, which one. 2) if that doesn't work you need to get ndiswrapper working with it, sorry, no experience of that
[02:39] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: read above :)
[02:39] <j2daosh> ITSa341, get the vcl player... i used it earlier to watch fantasic 4
[02:39] <smartblonde> no there is no linux distro
[02:39] <ITSa341> gnomefreak   I have dvd players set up but the dvdrom says no media  it's not recognizing the disks when in ubuntu
[02:39] <jago25_98> transgress: hope dhcpclient is installed. you can also try static IPs
[02:39] <tetstyy> anyone every get this error '/usr/share/fluxbox/nls/en_IE/fluxbox.cat' trying to start fluxbox ?
[02:40] <j2daosh> what smartblonde ?
[02:40] <ITSa341>  j2daosh:  I have that dvd in the drive now
[02:40] <CVirus> Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages <--- what could be wrong ?!
[02:40] <j2daosh> lol
[02:40] <jago25_98> transgress: and of course make sure the ethernet card is working
[02:40] <kevinc> Hi, I am trying to install Ubuntu x64 on my system however, the X server fails to start due to "no screens found". Would it be my graphical config?
[02:40] <mzinz> this program im going to download comes in: RPM, Plamo, Debian, and SuSe, which do I want?
[02:40] <j2daosh> im about too too... as soon as i figure out how to shrink it to fit on a disc
[02:40] <smartblonde> broadcom has not made any linux compatible drivers, the only for them to work is in ndiswrapper
[02:40] <j2daosh> :) im cheap
[02:40] <_jason> CVirus: sudo apt-get update
[02:40] <j2daosh> redbox baby
[02:40] <j2daosh> :)
[02:40] <hyphenated> mzinz: if you're lucky, get the "debian" one
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> CVirus: Universe isn't in security.
[02:41] <jago25_98> transgress: there is a suble difference in the way windows and linux does dhcp. dhcpclient has an option to imitate Windows but I expecrt you won't ned that and your router is fine
[02:41] <CVirus> tonyyarusso: do I disable it then ?
[02:41] <transgress> jago25_98: DHCPDISCOVER on eth0 to 255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 4
[02:41] <ITSa341> gnomefreak, it recognizes dvd disks anytime except in ubuntu
[02:41] <j2daosh> smartblonde, im failing to see your issue....
[02:41] <CVirus> tonyyarusso: the point is I generated the sources.list from and online script
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> CVirus: Well, that would be one way...better would be to move it to the normal breezy line.
[02:42] <transgress> jago25_98: it keeps repeating that, but won't search anywhere but 255... for the dhcp
[02:42] <mzinz> hyphenated, for some reason i'm not seeing the link.. am i blind? http://www.ntop.org/ntop.html
[02:42] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  I can't even explore the disks, it says no media
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> CVirus: The easysources one?  Really?
[02:42] <gnomefreak> CVirus: why dont you try pasting us you sources list on pastebin
[02:42] <CVirus> tonyyarusso: source-o-matic or sumthin
[02:42] <j2daosh> ok smartblonde im about to pm you ok?
[02:42] <CVirus> gnomefreak: 1 sec
[02:42] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: and you have libdvdcss installed?
[02:42] <smartblonde> okay
[02:42] <_jason> tonyyarusso: I think it is
[02:42] <CVirus> gnomefreak: http://pastebin.com/513988
[02:42] <hyphenated> mzinz: ntop is available from the 'universe' repository
[02:42] <ITSa341> gnomefreak   yup
[02:42] <mzinz> hyphenated, thanks
[02:43] <jago25_98> transgress: 255.255.255.255 is ther righht broadcast, I think there's only one so it's not that. have you tried static? (ifconfig 192.168.1.whatever)
[02:43] <_jason> CVirus: did you 'sudo apt-get update' ?
[02:43] <gnomefreak> CVirus: give me a sec i cant click links so i have to open browser first
[02:43] <_jason> gnomefreak: fix that already!
[02:43] <i_love_debian> Hello to all
[02:43] <i_love_debian> :D
[02:43] <transgress> jago25_98: i can't run static when i'm trying to connect through the modem though
[02:43] <gnomefreak> wait a min yes i can :((
[02:43] <CVirus> _jason: here is update http://pastebin.com/513990
[02:43] <i_love_debian> greetings
[02:44] <gnomefreak> _jason: im running irssi in gnome-terminal im so used to konsole :(
[02:44] <PuppiesOnAcid> Does Ubuntu handle dual monitor support pretty well?
[02:44] <jago25_98> transgress: yeah but at least we know it's dhcp that way
[02:44] <alfred> I'd like to put an NVIDIA Geforce 6200 128MB Card into my Ubuntu 5.10, Lot's of things to read, and have spent quite a bit of time on it. I'm new to Linux!
[02:44] <i_love_debian> bye :'(
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> _jason: You think there is a security universe?  Hmm...maybe you're right.
[02:44] <gnomefreak> CVirus: where are you from?
[02:44] <transgress> jago25_98: what file is it i change to set it to use static instead of dhcp?
[02:44] <CVirus> gnomefreak: its not my machine actually .. but the guy is at UAE
[02:44] <gnomefreak> uae?
[02:45] <CVirus> gnomefreak: united arab emirates
[02:45] <CVirus> is the sources.list correctly set ?
[02:45] <frazmanw> I am installing cupswrapper for my brother printer, and when I do localhost:631 to get into cups stuff. my passwords do not work? is there a default password I have to change, or something weird?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> CVirus: do you know what country code that would be?
[02:45] <_jason> CVirus: you're getting invalid signatures, maybe that has something to do with it
[02:45] <jago25_98> transgress: in this situation we need to do things on the commandline for testing to avoid complicating things
[02:45] <CVirus> _jason: did u check the file ?
[02:45] <gnomefreak> CVirus: yes but the vountry it maybe sending yuou too the server might be down
[02:46] <_jason> CVirus: yeah, it's sayins: The following signatures were invalid: BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5
[02:46] <CVirus> country code is 971
[02:46] <gnomefreak> _jason: hes getting gpg errors with that list?
[02:46] <riddlebox> frazmanw, I dont think ubuntu wants you to use that, I think you need to go to the printer section under administration
[02:46] <_jason> gnomefreak: yes
[02:46] <transgress> jago25_98: how's that?  i always changed /etc/network/interfaces or something like that...
[02:46] <gnomefreak> thats messed up than
[02:46] <jago25_98> transgress: `ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.10 ; ping 192.168.1.` yeah but I prefer ifconfig for testing
[02:46] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  this started at the same time as the other error I was talking about earlier if that helps
[02:47] <gnomefreak> i only get gpg errors only with non-offcical repos
[02:47] <transgress> jago25_98: oh  didn't know you could do it like that.  i'll give that a try.
[02:47] <_jason> CVirus: go to source-o-matic and add the key for security
[02:47] <transgress> jago25_98: brb again
[02:47] <frazmanw> riddlebox, I was thinking that. hmmmm I can not get this !@#$ printer working. I just want simple printing to a network based printer brother mfc-3820cn it is connected to hub with ethernet cable
[02:47] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: what other error?
[02:47] <Alinux> hello, someone from launchpad ?
[02:47] <Alinux> someone who translates something?
[02:47] <Kyral> You mean Rosetta?
[02:48] <adam_> Hi all,  Im a supernewb to Linux, would anybody care to have a private or open chat about some linux function to help me out?  Im using Ubuntu.
[02:48] <gnomefreak> Alinux: ask and if someone can answer they will be glad to help
[02:48] <CVirus> _jason: the gpg keys ?
[02:48] <barroso> Hi. Is there a way to minimize Evolution to Gnome's notification area?
[02:48] <_jason> CVirus: read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic, it will give you the key as comments in the sources.list you create
[02:48] <adam_> I downloaded skype from skype.com and dont know how to install it.
[02:48] <jago25_98> adam_ ask in here briefly and carefuly
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> adam_: It might be easier for you to say what exactly you're looking for help with, then you might be able to get someone who specializes.
[02:48] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  when I booted up this morning it says 3 updates ready to install but gives this error when I let it install them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372  I tried apt-get clean but that didn't help
[02:48] <transgress_> jago25_98: okay when i just do that, it says network is unreachable
[02:48] <_jason> ubotu: tell adam_ about skype
[02:48] <Alinux> so I've alredy translated gnome-menus -package, but when I refresh gnome-panel (no translation apears)
[02:49] <Alinux> what's wrong?
[02:49] <Kyral> Dunno
[02:49] <Kyral> I don't work with Rosetta ;P
[02:49] <transgress_> jago25_98: it is showing it as being connected to the router though
[02:49] <riddlebox> frazmanw, I didnt have a problem setting up my printserver through it
[02:49] <CVirus> _jason: thanks
[02:49] <jago25_98> transgress: and when we tried dhcpclient it just didn't get an IP right?
[02:49] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh thats right i remember that error
[02:49] <frazmanw> riddlebox, what printer do you use?
[02:50] <transgress_> jago25_98: well it hangs when trying it.  and you do mean dhclient right
[02:50] <transgress_> ?
[02:50] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: im still not gonna be much help :( sorry
[02:50] <_jason> CVirus: did that work?
[02:50] <riddlebox> hp deskjet 3520
[02:50] <CVirus> _jason: testing
[02:50] <riddlebox> hooked up to a usb wireless printserver
[02:50] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  I can't install anything with apt-get.  I get that same error even after doing "sudo apt-get clean"
[02:51] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: you broke your apt?
[02:51] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  it worked last night but this morning.....  you've read the rest.  :-)
[02:52] <jago25_98> transgress: yeah dhclient sry.  for me, if my router isn't switched on dhclient goes though trying differnt `intervals` of 255.255.255.255 until it fails and says `failed to get ip` or something along those lines. for me it doesn't crash. i think we're getting to my limit of ideas
[02:52] <gnomefreak> ITSa341: that error and apt are gonna be same issue
[02:52] <gnomefreak> but im sorry to say im not real sure what it is
[02:52] <quad_> bimberi, Wuupdiduu... it worked... seems ive just messed the file too mush up erlier on. So much for "trying" ;D Thanks!
[02:52] <nekostar> hey anyone installed to a dell laptop?
[02:52] <nekostar> i get an error with the partitioner
[02:53] <gnomefreak> nekostar: thats not really a laptop error thats a partion error
[02:53] <jago25_98> transgress: if it works in Windows I can[ =t see why it doesn[t work in linux, certainly if `ifconfig -a` lists eth0` and it's definately plugged into eth0
[02:53] <transgress_> jago25_98: oh sorry.  it doesn't crash. it will give that error.
[02:53] <plett> nekostar: lots of dell laptops have a small diagnostics partition on them, that might be causing problems
[02:54] <gnomefreak> mine didnt :(
[02:54] <jago25_98> transgress: does `ifconfig -a` list eth0, and I take it (seeing as it works in Windows) that the lights on the card are lit
[02:54] <plett> mine does, but it's not brand new
[02:54] <P8ntKid_> !ping
[02:54] <ubotu> pong
[02:54] <transgress_> jago25_98: umm i don't know if it works in windows.  i'm all in linux atm.  on both my lappy and desktop
[02:54] <gnomefreak> my ex wife did me the fav. of not ever worrying about it again tho :)
[02:54] <bimberi> quad_: great! :)
[02:55] <nekostar> ah
[02:55] <nevyn> are there install disks for daper?
[02:55] <transgress_> jago25_98: but the router can connect... so it seems my computers should be able to.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[02:55] <ubotu> I guess dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[02:55] <transgress_> nevyn: dapper == the b0rken
[02:55] <ITSa341> gnomefreak  you do realize ex wife is a four letter word
[02:55] <nekostar> gnomefreak, plett  input/output error during read on /dev/ide/host0/bus1/target0/lun0/disk <<-- the error
[02:55] <transgress_> ITSa341: no it isn't.  it's 6 letters.
[02:55] <gnomefreak> 5 letters to me ::)
[02:55] <nevyn> transgress_: less broken than sid ;)
[02:55] <jago25_98> transgress: a big ahhh! from me then :D check them lights at the back and see what `ifconfig -a` tells you
[02:55] <nekostar> know of a way around it?
[02:56] <ITSa341> transgress  if you'd met my ex you'd see it as a four letter word
[02:56] <transgress_> ITSa341: that'll teach you to get married.
[02:56] <plett> nekostar: that sounds moke like a hardware fault
[02:56] <nekostar> xp and such installs fine
[02:57] <nekostar> are there any dell options to pass to the installer?
[02:57] <CVirus> _jason: the gpg error is gone ... now there is still 1 error http://pastebin.com/514005
[02:57] <nekostar> like " linux dell "
[02:57] <plett> not that i'm aware of
[02:57] <transgress_> i want to know what's up with this.  it's so screwy.  tht my router sees my desktop as connected with the static IP i gave it, but it can't ping anything outside the network
[02:57] <nekostar> any ideas?
[02:57] <jago25_98> transgress: if going static, set `gateway = `to your router ip
[02:58] <jago25_98> transgress: in i/etcnet...nterfactes
[02:58] <gnomefreak> CVirus: try a country code see if that helps
[02:58] <transgress_> jago25_98: oh i thought i didn't have to mess with that stuff.  okay
[02:58] <ITSa341> bbiab
[02:58] <plett> nekostar: if it's not a dead or dying hard drive (which it probably isn't if windows can use it), it might be a brand new ide controller chip that isn't supported yet. but that's just a guess
[02:58] <holotone> What's the best way to go about connecting to a wireless network? I know that my card works (via ndiswrapper) as I have used it to connect succesfully. However, this is only after messing around a bunch with "Network Settings" and/or WifiRadar. I mean, is there a tool that simplifies the process? Also, the configuration button for wlan0 in Network Settings doesn't seem to be holding my settings for my "location" which is incredibly annoy
[02:58] <holotone> ing because it takes forever to switch "locations" and change any settings....
[02:58] <nekostar> hmm
[02:58] <nekostar> might be a dying hdd
[02:59] <plett> my first guess would be dying drive
[02:59] <gnomefreak> brb gonna see if X is fixed :(
[02:59] <nekostar> laptop gets a cannot find os error with xp in occationally?
[02:59] <nekostar> guy prolly dropped it a bunch of times or something equally dumb
[02:59] <holotone> Any ideas?
[02:59] <plett> nekostar: i don't know about xp, i'm not a windows user ;)
[03:00] <nekostar> well im gonna try a default partition thingie
[03:00] <nekostar> lol plett
[03:00] <nekostar> arg
[03:00] <nekostar> ok lets try another distro to see if we can at least partition the sucker
[03:00] <bimberi> holotone: network-manager might be worth a look for you - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[03:00] <transgress_> jago25_98: okay got the connection set to static on my desktop
[03:00] <wassup> i was wondering if anybody in the ubuntu community could help me: my boss has asked me to find a solution that will display video / stills (loop) on multiple plasmas that can be updated from just one pc... (are there any linux tools that can make this work) and P.S. what format would you recommend the video / slideshow
[03:00] <holotone> thank you, bimberi
[03:01] <b1shop-> anything in apt i can use for stuffit archives?
[03:01] <bimberi> holotone: yw :)
[03:01] <nevyn> wassup: how many plasma's?
[03:01] <wassup> nevyn : round 3
[03:02] <wassup> but scaling would be preferable
[03:02] <b1shop-> wassup, how about any old video splitter cable from bestbuy?
[03:02] <Chef> hello
[03:02] <nevyn> b1shop-: ummm have you tried feeding composite to a plasma not good...
[03:02] <mzinz> what directory are firefox themes in?
[03:02] <jago25_98> transgress: if you have an IP that is on the same network as the router try pingping the router
[03:02] <wassup> b1shop- there could be a fair bit of distance between each of the plasmas.... know if the cables can handle the distance?
[03:03] <nevyn> wassup: small box on each plasma ethernet and v4l?
[03:03] <wassup> small box was the idea... either ehternet / wireless & i have never heard of v41
[03:03] <nevyn> wassup: or remote X
[03:03] <floppyears> hi
[03:03] <nevyn> wassup: v4l == video for linux a streaming player
[03:03] <Chef> hello
[03:03] <transgress_> jago25_98: i can ping inside or outside of the router now.
[03:03] <jaguardawg> is there a line/queue or can i just ask my question anytime?
[03:03] <floppyears> I have a scanner, and I can only scan as root, could somebody help me scan as a regular user ?
[03:03] <wassup> (wassup is fairly new to linux)
[03:03] <floppyears> please :(
[03:04] <jago25_98> transgress: horay :)
[03:04] <nevyn> wassup: actually I'm wrong v4l is the kernel capture interface I'm thinking of one of the media players.. ummm... videolan or something
[03:04] <floppyears> anybody ?
[03:05] <transgress> jago25_98: but i could get connected through my router before.  i need to be able to connect through my modem.  because i'm pretty sure my router is messed up.  it keeps dropping my connection.  but it could be my ISP.  i'm trying to find which it is.
[03:05] <b1shop-> wassup, how good does the quality have to be?
[03:05] <Chef> hey, I need help with BIOS
[03:05] <transgress> jago25_98: my computer keeps searching through intervals for an IP if i just connect it to the modem and i'm trying to find out why and how to change that.
[03:05] <Chef> Does anyone know the DELL BIos Well?
[03:05] <jaguardawg> has anyone else experienced a 'crc error'?
[03:05] <nevyn> Chef: most of them are vile...
[03:06] <floppyears> anybody can help me with my scanner problem :(
[03:06] <jago25_98> transgress: go into your router's config page (web 192.168.1.1 maybe?) and look at the dhcp  bit. Are you telling me that Windows has it's connection droped  too?
[03:06] <tech9iner> rofl..
[03:06] <wassup> b1shop- : not fantastic, it's mainly for advertising, mainly stills with text / pics & short videos but it will be of people moving, smiling, doing things etc if that makes a difference
[03:06] <Chef> ok
[03:06] <Chef> well does that mean u can help me
[03:07] <tech9iner> so.. floppyears .. zat nick 'floppy ears' ?.. 'flopp years' ?.. rofl
[03:07] <transgress> jago25_98: how am i supposed to know that?  both my boxes run linux.  what i'm telling you is i'm having some funny activity with my connection.  i need to connect my computer straight to the modem instead of going through a router.  that way i can find out if i have a broken router.
[03:07] <bimberi> b1shop-: i can't see one, apart from what you can get from stuffit.com (15 day trial)
[03:07] <b1shop-> wassup, i've used wireless before...  worked ok for conferense type presentations
[03:07] <tech9iner> floppyears: no worries.. just yank'n your pigtails bit..
[03:07] <theneonshadow> does linux have a program for a webcam preinstalled? or can you tell me of a good one for it
[03:07] <b1shop-> bimberi, that sucks
[03:08] <transgress> theneonshadow: gnomemeeting is good if not overkill for just a webcam
[03:08] <b1shop-> but thanx
[03:08] <secureboot> is there any way to debootstrap an ubuntu system instead of a debian system?  i'm trying to make an ubuntu domU for Xen...
[03:08] <jaguardawg> has anyone else experienced a 'crc error'?
[03:08] <bimberi> b1shop-: i know :/ and np :)
[03:08] <Chef> hey
[03:09] <Chef> how do i change the boot order of my HDD?
[03:09] <cyphase> http://img120.imageshack.us/img120/5149/kamelscreenshotv1bylzfy0dq.png
[03:09] <jago25_98> transgress: right, I thought I was dealing with a newb who had a problem with his linux box, so yo're actually on here trying to fix something nothing to do with ubuntu specifically. Yeah, connect your cable modem up. Mine has dhcp on my cable modem too, and my cable modem is 192.168.100.1 whereas the router is 192.168.1.1 by default. personally I've never connected up the cable modem direct
[03:10] <wassup> regarding looped video / stills can anybody suggest an editor / format
[03:10] <b1shop-> bimberi, aparently there IS a package called unstuffit
[03:11] <Toma-> wassup, cinelerra or avidemix
[03:11] <tekguy> i'm new to linux and was trying to move files of a certain directory to another. I tried to do mv $(find /path/ -name '*.mpg' -print) /path/to/move/to. but it errors out
[03:11] <Yggdrasil> hey guys , my internet is broken and im ircing off my phone so go easy on me & i need to mount an ntfs file system but its extended partition i cant figuyr it out pls hlpmsg me pls since im onma phone irc
[03:11] <jago25_98> transgress: I'd start by making sure the dhcp server on the modem is actually running if you want to use it, and to switch subnets to 192.168.100.*if you go static
[03:11] <seele96> is there a command in the terminal that shows the actives connections? like netstat is DOS?
[03:11] <jago25_98> cya
[03:11] <transgress> seele96: netstat
[03:12] <bimberi> b1shop-: ah
[03:12] <seele96> wow, that was easy many thanks Transgress
[03:12] <adam_> Ok, I need alittle bit more help fellas,  I need to change the file skypefedora using alien to a package file that Ubuntu can use.  Ubuntu doesnt give me access when it asks for a password.
[03:12] <jclinton> Yggdrasil: mount -t ntfs /dev/hda5 /media/harddrive
[03:12] <jaguardawg> has anyone else experienced a 'crc error'?
[03:12] <b1shop-> bimberi, and "macunpack"...  but aparently theyyyy do not work for newer version of the archives..  :-(
[03:13] <jclinton> adam_: 'sudo su -' from a normal user
[03:13] <Yggdrasil> jclinton i tried and it gave ne errirs i think  its cuz its on an extended partition
[03:13] <adam_> Thanks. Ill try.
[03:14] <jclinton> Yggdrasil: it will work even on an extended
[03:14] <jclinton> Yggdrasil: you just need to select the right number
[03:14] <jclinton> Yggdrasil: use 'fdisk -p /dev/hda' to find it
[03:14] <Razor-X> Yggdrasil: ah, a Tales of Symphonia player, eh?
[03:15] <molotov_> I've connected to my ubuntu computer using vncserver, but when I connect, no icons show up for anything. How can I fix this?
[03:15] <floppyears> I can't figure out why regular users can't see the scanner :(
[03:15] <Yggdrasil> weel theres somwyging not right because i did cfdisk and it was kind od freakwd out kisted no parts
[03:15] <Toma-> molotov_, no icons? what about the background image?
[03:16] <Toma-> molotov_, are you connection/serving the right X display?
[03:16] <wassup> b1shop- what setup did you use for your presentations, would it be appropriate for continuous running?
[03:16] <molotov_> toma, backgorund image is there. the box is logged into a fluxbox WM, I'm vncserver'ing into a gnome/default ubuntu desktop.
[03:16] <bimberi> b1shop-: yes, i think i'm on the same page (linuxmafia) :|
[03:16] <Toma-> weird...
[03:17] <molotov_> toma, I'm not sure. I've started a few with vncserver :#, 1,3, and 9 are iconless, but 2 had appropriate icons.
[03:17] <mcdenyer> hey i think i have a problem
[03:17] <Yggdrasil> guess i dont have fdisk installed
[03:17] <mcdenyer> my sound only kicks in like every once and a while
[03:17] <Toma-> molotov_, what about 0?
[03:17] <mcdenyer> like gaim only makes sound every once and a while
[03:17] <Toma-> molotov_, 0=1st display
[03:17] <molotov_> toma, let me check
[03:17] <Yggdrasil> fuck
[03:17] <theneonshadow> quick i need a driver for a webcam that will make it work wtih gnomemetting
[03:18] <Toma-> theneonshadow, is the webcam making your system crash?
[03:18] <theneonshadow> no, it wont run on my computer
[03:18] <Toma-> theneonshadow, is it an spca5xx camera?
[03:18] <theneonshadow> toma-: it wont run, the little light on it comes on, but the system can use it.
[03:18] <molotov_> toma, is there a killall option? I'm just going to kill these off and set them up again.
[03:19] <gnomefreak> is there something im missing? when i open up /etc/gdm/gdm.conf i can delete but i cant type to replace what im taking out? is ther e atrick to this?
[03:19] <theneonshadow> toma-: its a generic webcam. its just called usbpccam
[03:19] <Toma-> molotov_, killall vncserver, or ps aux, then kill -KILL (pid)
[03:19] <seele96> how do i log in as root in a terminal? i tried installing opera and its install.sh tells me that i don't have privileges.
[03:19] <Toma-> theneonshadow, try using this http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75284.html
[03:19] <gnomefreak> seele96: sudo -i
[03:19] <floppyears> hi
[03:20] <seele96> Thanks gnomefreak :-D
[03:20] <floppyears> I'm having trouble setting up my scanner with xsane
[03:20] <gnomefreak> seele96: yw but for future times needing root please type sudo than the command
[03:20] <floppyears> only root can recognize the scanner,
[03:20] <floppyears> could sombody give me some pointers on how to fix these permissions ?
[03:21] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell floppyears about root
[03:21] <starla> I'm trying to use a dvd burner, but i can't get it to burn dvds that actually work. i'm assuming that it is one of the 'unsupported' drives like it mentions here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CdDvdBurning  but i want to find out for sure if my drive is just unsupported or if something else is wrong. can someone help me? i'd like to use this drive to burn dvds
[03:21] <starla> my burner is a pioneer 110d
[03:22] <AdmiralSenn> hmm
[03:23] <AdmiralSenn> anyone know of a working ipod player for linux?
[03:23] <Toma-> !ipod
[03:23] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[03:23] <AdmiralSenn> thankie
[03:23] <Toma-> thats got a few on there ^^
[03:23] <Toma-> np
[03:24] <jmcurry> Help! I don't have a desktop folder! Installation went wierd (on other machine)!
[03:24] <dooglus> jmcurry: "mkdir ~/Desktop"
[03:24] <jmcurry> i know
[03:24] <Witigonen> Hey all, if I install with a 5.04 CD will it automatically update to 5.1?
[03:25] <jmcurry> but normal icons aren't working and my home directory is actually based off of root rather than /usr/jmc/
[03:25] <starla> i can't burn dvds with my new burner and I need help. can someone help me figure out what's wrong?
[03:25] <Davey> Witigonen: once installed, you can upgrade it easily
[03:25] <Witigonen> Davey: thanks.
[03:25] <Smash3r> anyone here can tell me if the ubuntu Nvidia drivers are supporting dual-screen ?
[03:25] <Davey> !breezy
[03:25] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[03:25] <Jeffrae> hi
[03:25] <spi_da_man> ok, mind if I throw out a noob question?
[03:25] <Jeffrae> is there like a performance faq for ubuntu?
[03:25] <Davey> Witigonen: just follow that :)
[03:25] <Davey> spi_da_man: no, everyone here must be an expert.
[03:25] <Davey> spi_da_man: heh, just ask :)
[03:25] <spi_da_man> kk
[03:26] <spi_da_man> my ethernet card is no longer connecting to anything
[03:26] <Toma-> Jeffrae, theres a tips&tricks wiki somewhere
[03:26] <spi_da_man> i need to work out if it's the configuration or the card con bad
[03:26] <spi_da_man> card gone bad*
[03:26] <spi_da_man> any ideas?
[03:27] <holotone> I'm not sure who it just was that reccomended the NetworkManager Applet to me, but THANK YOU! That was exactly what I was looking for and solved all of my wireless issues. Why isn't it included stock w/ Ubuntu?
[03:27] <jmcurry> \quit
[03:27] <Toma-> Jeffrae, http://www.ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=100 (but use some of them with caution. (Automatix is evil))
[03:27] <holotone> What's wrong with Automatix, Jeffrae?
[03:27] <EliasT> NetworkManager did not work for me.
[03:27] <holotone> I'm a new user, and it helped me quite a bit.
[03:27] <seth|lappy> it breaks boxes, holotone
[03:28] <EliasT> It kept disconnecting me.
[03:28] <bosco> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?
[03:28] <bosco>     Can  any one help me out it installed fine but does not run in my new ubuntu
[03:28] <bimberi> holotone: glad to hear it.  as you can see experiences can be mixed though :)
[03:28] <tafsen> How do I chmod alle the sub dirs?
[03:28] <holotone> NetworkManager is still beta, isn't it?
[03:28] <holotone> EXCELLENT tool, either way...
[03:28] <Smash3r> anyone here know if the ubuntu Nvidia drivers are supporting dual-screen ?
[03:29] <dooglus> tafsen: find /path/to/dir -type d -exec chmod <something> {} ';'
[03:29] <holotone> Toma, what is it you don't like about Automatix?
[03:29] <bimberi> holotone: i suppose v0.5.1 is beta :)
[03:29] <EliasT> if I want linux-image 2.6.15 I'll have to wait for dapper, right?
[03:29] <starla> my dvd burner goes through the motions of burning a dvd, but when I try to insert the finished dvd again it thinks that the disc is blank.  also, no other computer or drive will read the disc. can someone help? i just want to burn dvds
[03:29] <bimberi> EliasT: yes
[03:29] <holotone> And can someone recommend me a better IRC client than xchat?
[03:29] <dooglus> holotone: irssi
[03:30] <seth|lappy> holotone, xchat-gnome ?
[03:30] <holotone> yup
[03:30] <EliasT> bimberi: ipw is compiled into the kernel?
[03:30] <Toma-> holotone, its a buggy script + isnt as safe as doing it yourself
[03:30] <holotone> oh, right on.
[03:30] <haasteem> is there a good newsgroup reader available for linux?
[03:30] <EliasT> Thunderbird?
[03:30] <spi_da_man> is there a known bug where the default gateway device won't stay set?
[03:30] <holotone> Hey, what exactly is the difference between Synaptic and "Add Programs"?
[03:31] <Davey> haasteem: I use Thunderbird
[03:31] <seth|lappy> add programs is just a simplified interface
[03:31] <dooglus> holotone: synaptic has everything, 'add programs' has a subset
[03:31] <holotone> haasteem, I really like liferea
[03:31] <bosco> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?
[03:31] <bimberi> EliasT: there is a /lib/modules/2.6.15-12-386/kernel/drivers/usb/serial/ipw.ko on my flight3 install here
[03:31] <Jeffrae> well is there a list of services that may be running that I do not need?
[03:31] <Jeffrae> like for instance I see bluetooth crap when it starts
[03:31] <holotone> Cool, I was wondering why I couldn't find some apps there..
[03:31] <haasteem> ok, thanks
[03:31] <Smash3r> common ppl, just wanna know if dual-screen is supported with nvidia driver on Ubuntu...
[03:32] <adam_> If somone can help me finish this talk i would be most greatful.  I have a program called skypefedora.rpm on my desktop.  I need to convert it to a .deb filing using Alien.  Can somone tell me what i need to do inorder to accomplish this?
[03:32] <starla> Smash3r, no one is answering my question either...
[03:32] <EliasT> bimberi: ipw2200 is a wireless device driver.
[03:32] <spi_da_man> ditto
[03:32] <bimberi> EliasT: you asked about ipw - yes there's also an ipw2200 module
[03:32] <starla> I guess I'm just not naked enough to get any help. :)
[03:32] <Smash3r> lol starla
[03:32] <EliasT> bimberi: sorry
[03:32] <Toma-> bosco, have you installed ut properly? have you moved it since you installed it? look thru UnrealTournament.ini and see if youre UT_DATA_PATH is the same as your ut folder
[03:32] <bimberi> EliasT: np :)
[03:33] <EliasT> >>ioctl[SIOCSIWENCODEEXT] : Invalid argument
[03:33] <EliasT> >>Driver did not support SIOCSIWENCODEEXT
[03:33] <bosco> Toma one sec let me look
[03:33] <spi_da_man> anyone a networking expert who can help me out?
[03:33] <dooglus> !anyone
[03:33] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:33] <EliasT> my error is something like that on wpasupplicant, therefore it means it must be my driver. I was hoping to patch, but I've read that the updated kernel fixes it.
[03:34] <starla> Smash3r, you might want to just install the drivers and try it out. do you have the nvidia drivers installed?
[03:34] <starla> Smash3r, i have no idea myself, but i've got an nvidia card... not two monitors though
[03:34] <Smash3r> starla I dont have 2 screens yet
[03:34] <bosco> Toma i have not moved it and not changed it since install
[03:34] <Smash3r> im planning to buy a new one today
[03:35] <Smash3r> but i dont wanna buy it if it's gonna be no use in ubuntu lol
[03:35] <cafuego> Any dapper users here who are also unable to switch screen resolutions from within Gnome?
[03:35] <starla> Smash3r, can you borrow someone else's monitor to try it out? or buy it from somewhere with a good return policy?
[03:36] <spi_da_man> is there an any reason why a perfectly good ethernet card would not work due to configuration; if so, what would the correct configuration be for a single box behind a router?
[03:36] <dooglus> cafuego: I'm using dapper and the resolution switcher works for me
[03:36] <cafuego> dooglus: Which xserver-xorg version you on?
[03:36] <starla> Smash3r, my situation is that my FATHER bought a dvd burner for me from a place with NO return policy, so now that I"m pretty sure it DOESN'T WORK AT ALL, i'm screwed... and no one here is answer ing my call for help to try to find out if it works
[03:36] <EliasT> pretty impressive: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper
[03:36] <Smash3r> what brad is it ?
[03:36] <dooglus> cafuego: ii  xserver-xorg   7.0.0-0ubuntu6 the X.Org X server
[03:36] <starla> Smash3r, so you're smart for not buying before you're pretty sure it works... unlike my dad.
[03:37] <cafuego> dooglus: Ghhrm. Mine insists XRandR isn't enabled.
[03:37] <Smash3r> starla is it a sony DVD-RW-DL ?
[03:37] <starla> Smash3r, no it's a pioneer
[03:37] <Smash3r> okay
[03:37] <Smash3r> I got a sony device here that isn't detected in ubuntu
[03:37] <cafuego> starla: contact pioneer, they should be fine with a warranty fix/swap.
[03:37] <bosco> Couldn't run Unreal Tournament (ut-bin). Is UT_DATA_PATH set?
[03:37] <dooglus> cafuego: I never tried using it before.  I use an LCD display, and always just use the native resolution.  but I tried it now and it worked.
[03:38] <Dark_Oppressor> i just installed wine, and now ive got my world of warcraft cd in the drive
[03:38] <Smash3r> so no cd/dvd-player/burner in ubuntu for me too I guess
[03:38] <ORiON2012> bosco: echo $UT_DATA_PATH
[03:38] <cafuego> dooglus: I'm just trying to set up the external vga on the iBook here, so my wife can use it at Linux.conf.au - it whines *sigh*
[03:38] <Dark_Oppressor> how do i install wow? :D
[03:38] <ORiON2012> bosco: see if tis set
[03:38] <starla> cafuego, good idea.
[03:38] <starla> finally i'm not ignored! *does a little dance*
[03:38] <pianoboy3333> what types of parental controls are there for ubuntu?
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> anything besides dansguardian
[03:39] <seth|lappy> squidguard, mm?
[03:39] <holotone> anybody have an opinion of Zircon?
[03:39] <bosco> set to nothing
[03:39] <pianoboy3333> are there any parental controls that are gui
[03:39] <bosco> ORiON2012,  set to nothing
[03:39] <EliasT> holotone: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkMagic
[03:40] <cafuego> dooglus: maybe the just messed up ppc.
[03:40] <bosco> pianoboy3333, sure are, look into ipcop/dansguardian
[03:40] <popi> Hi! Does the shipped version of Ubuntu include a LiveCD? :)
[03:40] <bosco> pianoboy3333,  I USE IT FOR MYSLE, I CANT CRACK IT
[03:40] <bimberi> popi: yes
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> lol
[03:40] <ORiON2012> bosco: you should export UT_DATA_PATH="/correct/pathname"  that should shut it up
[03:40] <bosco>  capps soor, not my lappie
[03:40] <pianoboy3333> bosco: is it a website?
[03:41] <bosco> google gansguardian
[03:41] <bosco> dans*\
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> bosco: I have dansguardian downloaded
[03:41] <pianoboy3333> bosco: ur saying there's a gui for it?
[03:41] <armosfighter> i downloaded and installed azureus and ran it but now i cant get it open again
[03:41] <armosfighter> what is the command?
[03:41] <ORiON2012> armosfighter: erm, azureus-bin?
[03:42] <ORiON2012> armosfighter: just type azureus in command prompt, then hit tab to complete it
[03:42] <ORiON2012> armosfighter: as long as you're using bash as a shell it should work
[03:42] <armosfighter> hmm
[03:42] <ORiON2012> armosfighter: if not, try locate azureus
[03:43] <dooglus> armosfighter: I run it using "/home/chris/programs/azureus/azureus".  you'll need to modify that to match where you put it
[03:43] <armosfighter> ok
[03:43] <popi> Hi! Does the shipped version of Ubuntu include a LiveCD? :)
[03:43] <holotone> is there a quick way to clear my RAM?
[03:43] <ORiON2012> holotone: turn your computer off
[03:43] <pianoboy3333> bosco: ur saying there's a gui for dansguardian?
[03:43] <holotone> heh
[03:44] <dooglus> holotone: shutting down does that
[03:44] <Xenguy> !u
[03:44] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[03:44] <holotone> I mean from the command line
[03:44] <RageMax> I'm having a major library problem
[03:44] <RageMax> vi: error while loading shared libraries: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:44] <dooglus> holotone: why else would you want to clear your RAM?  that's where the kernel lives
[03:44] <RageMax> works as root though
[03:44] <holotone> Oh, I did not know that.
[03:44] <bimberi> popi: Yes
[03:44] <holotone> thanks again for the help, ya'll!
[03:44] <RageMax> any ideas? I tried ldconfig, and that didn't work
[03:45] <RageMax> just started happening out of the blue mid-session
[03:45] <ORiON2012> RageMax: is that lib readble by users?
[03:45] <popi> Is Ubuntu as vulnerable as Windows is when you go online without a firewall? I'm trying to install Firestarter just now.
[03:45] <Toma-> someone needs to make it clear about how linux uses RAM :/
[03:45] <ORiON2012> readable *
[03:45] <Jeffrae> where else do you think your kernel lives?
[03:45] <armosfighter> armosfighter@Armosfighter:~/Desktop/LNX PR/azureus$
[03:45] <armosfighter> hmmm...
[03:45] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian?
[03:45] <Xenguy> popi: No, if you don't run services
[03:45] <bosco> pianoboy3333, there is a gui for dansguardian with ipcop.
[03:45] <bosco> google ipcop, you can install dans guardian as a plugin
[03:45] <Jeffrae> it has to be somewhere that the cpu has access to that is solid state for speed
[03:45] <bosco> and use an old pc as your web based gui router/firewall/filter
[03:46] <popi> This is a fresh Ubuntu 5.10 install. How do I know if I'm running services?
[03:46] <pianoboy3333> bosco: kk thx
[03:46] <ORiON2012> popi: depends on how you configured the system, if you haven't made any changes, no.
[03:46] <dogmeat> where is bob2?
[03:46] <dogmeat> is ubuntu more common than debian?
[03:46] <popi> So if I don't change anything, I'll be fine without a firewall?
[03:46] <Xenguy> dogmeat: Ubu is based on Debian
[03:47] <ORiON2012> dogmeat: no
[03:47] <RageMax> ORiON2012: well here's the problem, but it doesn't explain why root can execute
[03:47] <RageMax> max@gateway:~$ ls -l /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0
[03:47] <RageMax> lrwxrwxrwx  1 root root 27 2005-12-04 23:32 /usr/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.so.0 -> libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0
[03:47] <RageMax> max@gateway:~$ ls -l libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0
[03:47] <RageMax> ls: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0: No such file or directory
[03:47] <Xenguy> popi: I'm not in GNOME, but I think there is a menu item for Services
[03:47] <RageMax> max@gateway:~$ ls -l libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0
[03:47] <RageMax> ls: libpangoft2-1.0.so.0.1001.0: No such file or directory
[03:47] <dogmeat> ok
[03:47] <ORiON2012> dogmeat: but its changing
[03:47] <Xenguy> !tell RageMax about pastebin
[03:47] <RageMax> sorry, didn't know 5 lines was considered a flood
[03:48] <RageMax> well, 6
[03:48] <ORiON2012> RageMax: don't paste
[03:48] <Xenguy> RageMax: yes
[03:48] <adam_> Yes.  I figured it out after only just an hour.  I converted skype.rpm to a .deb file then i successfully installed it.  Well, im done for tonight.
[03:48] <adam_> Later all.
[03:48] <Xenguy> popi: or apt-get rcconf and have a look there
[03:48] <ORiON2012> RageMax: locate the lib and point the symlink to the correct location
[03:49] <Xenguy> popi: or someone said 'bum' is a nicer GUI that lists services
[03:49] <EliasT> I have a question regarding microphone/audio. In windows Skype sounds perfect on a ThinkPad (no headset), but with Linux I get a lot of echoes. Is this a sound driver issue?
[03:49] <Xenguy> popi: I haven't tried that last one myself
[03:49] <PepeTrueno> hi
[03:49] <popi> I checked out Services in the Administration submenu and most of the services are on. I'm running a fresh install of Ubuntu.
[03:49] <ORiON2012> hello
[03:49] <RageMax> ORiON2012: that's the only localtion of it
[03:49] <mcdenyer> i need the lijnk to the good source list for breezy :)
[03:49] <morphix> !firefox1.5
[03:50] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:50] <mcdenyer> !source
[03:50] <ubotu> I heard source is to compile a source package, you first need to 'apt-get build-essential'. Some source packages have other dependencies, such as KDE or Gnome development libraries also. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompileSoftware
[03:50] <Jeffrae> is there a list of common things people remote from their ubuntu install
[03:50] <RageMax> I don't know how root is able to execute the library without it existing
[03:50] <popi> Among the services running are anacron, atd, cron, klogd, sysklog, gdm, fetchmail, cupsys.
[03:50] <Jeffrae> I am sure it is loaded with tons of useless crap to the general desktop user
[03:50] <CVirus> http://pastebin.com/514057 .. suggestions ?
[03:50] <Xenguy> popi: that doesn't sound correct; Ubu does not offer services to the outside/net by default
[03:51] <ORiON2012> RageMax: if there's no other instances of libpangoft2*, then the lib isn't installed.  Would seem that all you have is a dead symlink and you should reinstall the lib.
[03:51] <Xenguy> popi: those are all internal only - they're fine
[03:51] <popi> They look harmless though, clocks and timers and everything, printer services. Nothing like FTP or server or something like that.
[03:51] <popi> Ok
[03:51] <dooglus> Xenguy: those services aren't network services, but they run by default
[03:51] <RageMax> ORiON2012: that still doesn't explain why root is able to execute gnome apps
[03:51] <dooglus> (except anacron isn't a service, but apart from that...)
[03:51] <Jeffrae> like wacom
[03:51] <Xenguy> popi: services like FTP, HTTP, etc that point to the outside are a different story
[03:51] <Jeffrae> I don't need wacom
[03:52] <popi> Sorry, I'm new to Linux. :)
[03:52] <Xenguy> dooglus: yeah, my terminology is not the best ATM
[03:52] <Jeffrae> should I get rid of the wacom tablet junk?
[03:52] <Xenguy> popi: don't be sorry; have fun :-)
[03:52] <Jeffrae> nope cant
[03:52] <Jeffrae> it wants to remove core
[03:52] <popi> At what point would I need a firewall for Ubuntu?
[03:53] <ORiON2012> CVirus: try apt-get getting ubuntu-keyring
[03:53] <dooglus> popi: if you install a service which listens to the outside world, and you want to filter which IP addresses can connect to it
[03:53] <ORiON2012> CVirus: oops, just sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[03:54] <Xenguy> popi: opinions differ, but I like one just so I can control which IPs get to my box :-)
[03:54] <RageMax> ORiON2012: fixed, it was a permission problem afterall
[03:54] <RageMax> thanks
[03:54] <dooglus> popi: but generally, if you install a web server, it's because you want people to connect to it
[03:54] <CVirus> ORiON2012: testing this
[03:54] <newuser> ok folks, me and my ongoing wireless saga. Damn thing worked at my work but not at home. don't remember the commands to kick start it.
[03:54] <popi> Is Firestarter a good choice? My friend mentioned something like IPTables.
[03:54] <Xenguy> popi: firestarter (and others like shorewall) are frontends to iptables
[03:54] <yota> popi: yes, it is
[03:54] <ORiON2012> popi: for someone that doesn't feel like taking hours to learn iptables, its a good choice
[03:54] <dooglus> popi: iptables is built into the kernel.  you're running it now.  firestarter is just one of many iptables configuration utilities
[03:55] <popi> Is GAIM a form of service which listens to the "outside" world?
[03:55] <popi> Or Firefox, for that matter?
[03:55] <dooglus> popi: no, neither
[03:55] <dooglus> popi: they both initiate connections outwards
[03:55] <CVirus> ORiON2012: it is installed
[03:55] <dooglus> popi: "listening" is when a program opens a port and waits for others to initiate connections from outside
[03:55] <CVirus> I mean already installed
[03:55] <ORiON2012> CVirus: then try another sudo apt-get update, still error?
[03:55] <ORiON2012> CVirus: ahh
[03:56] <popi> I see, so for ordinary circumstances, I may never really need a firewall for Linux?
[03:56] <CVirus> ORiON2012: so ?
[03:56] <dooglus> popi: it's useful if you have a local network, and want to make services available to the other machines on your network without allowing external hosts in
[03:57] <dooglus> popi: but then, your router will take care of that anyway
[03:57] <popi> What if I'm using NAT? I'm currently running Breezy on VMware just get to a feel for it before I install it directly.
[03:58] <CVirus> ORiON2012: hello ?
[03:58] <ORiON2012> CVirus: it's happened before, not really an issue, packages will still isntall fine. Perhaps you should try a localized mirror that will verify correctly.  http://us.archive.ubuntu.com for instance
[03:59] <poningru> how do you show oct ascii in gnome?
[03:59] <CVirus> ORiON2012: packages will install fine for sure ?
[03:59] <poningru> like hex is ctrl+shift+hex
[03:59] <dooglus> popi: as I understand it, NAT is a way of a firewall allowing remote hosts to talk to your machine so long as your machine initiated the connection
[03:59] <poningru> CVirus: whats wrong?
[03:59] <Xenguy> popi: I think it is fair to say that if you aren't running services that 'listen', then you may not require a firewall.  Still, I want to be able to blacklist IP addresses that I perceive to be behaving maliciously; a firewall gives me that degree of control.
[03:59] <dooglus> poningru: what are you talking about?  "oct ascii"?
[03:59] <ORiON2012> CVirus: yes, the gpg key is what packages are signed with to verify authenticity, if you're paranoid then it's an issue.
[03:59] <CVirus> poningru: http://pastebin.com/514057
[04:00] <popi> Ok
[04:00] <grim76> Xenguy: use hosts.deny
[04:00] <CVirus> ORiON2012: I thought it wouldnt install if I dont have the correct keys imported
[04:00] <Xenguy> popi: I do :-)
[04:00] <Xenguy> grim76: ^^
[04:00] <poningru> dooglus: http://www.lookuptables.com/
[04:00] <popi> Btw, is there a way to filter updates to include only security-related ones?
[04:01] <Xenguy> popi:  the other reason I set up this firewall is because it sets up NAT/masquerading at the same time, so it was convenient for me to do
[04:01] <newuser> damn as soon as i posted my last post my machine frooze.
[04:01] <poningru> CVirus: did you run apt-get upgrade?
[04:01] <dooglus> popi: yes.  there are 3 different types of apt source - you can ask for just security if you like
[04:01] <dooglus> popi: look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:01] <CVirus> poningru: I upgraded using the GUI
[04:01] <newuser> any way i'm looking for a list of commands to kickstart my wlan0.
[04:01] <dooglus> poningru: "man ascii" will show something similar
[04:02] <poningru> dooglus: hmm ok
[04:02] <dooglus> poningru: I don't know what you mean by "hex is ctrl+shift+hex"
[04:02] <dooglus> poningru: maybe if I understood the question...
[04:02] <john> hello?
[04:02] <bob832> hi
[04:03] <john> dose any one know how to trouble shoot a wireless network ?
[04:03] <poningru> dooglus: with the cursor somewhere
[04:03] <poningru> press ctrl+shift+40
[04:04] <popi> Ok, thanks
[04:04] <poningru> well hold down ctrl and shift
[04:04] <poningru> and type 40
[04:04] <poningru> let go of ctrl and shift
[04:05] <dooglus> poningru: oh, that's cool.  i never saw that before
[04:05] <ORiON2012> CVirus: try this: Settings > Repositories > Authentication > Restore default keys  from Synaptic
[04:05] <CVirus> ORiON2012: poningru: I used us. mirror now there are no errors :-)
[04:05] <CVirus> Thanks alot
[04:05] <ORiON2012> CVirus: cool
[04:06] <ORiON2012> CVirus: nevermind then
[04:06] <CVirus> ORiON2012: :-)
[04:06] <m0wax> I am in the process of installing ubuntu and its asking me which kernel I want.  linux-386, linux-image-386 or linux-image-2.6.12.9.386.  Which one do I want?
[04:08] <poningru> CVirus: awesome dude
[04:08] <RedGhost_eric> can anyone else install the 686/686smp versions of the new kernel?
[04:08] <poningru> m0wax: um it shouldnt have asked you that
[04:08] <eriksays> hi all.  trying to setup my printer to share with my windows machines.
[04:08] <eriksays> used this to go by --> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=163882  still can't see it in windows
[04:09] <CVirus> poningru: Thanks for your help
[04:09] <mcdenyer> !repositories
[04:09] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:09] <poningru> CVirus: np
[04:09] <ORiON2012> RedGhost_eric: .15 ?
[04:09] <RedGhost_eric> yes
[04:09] <dooglus> poningru: I wouldn't have thought there was an 'octal' mode for entering characters.  hex is enough, right?
[04:10] <RedGhost_eric> ORiON2012: Can you install .15 686?
[04:10] <m0wax> poningru:  So what do I do?
[04:10] <ORiON2012> RedGhost_eric: haven't tried, wasn't sure if you meant .12-10 or .15-whatever
[04:11] <poningru> m0wax: well it doesnt matter
[04:11] <RedGhost_eric> ok
[04:11] <Arya> need help with a Boot Problem
[04:11] <poningru> m0wax: because the first two link to the latest linux image
[04:11] <poningru> so just pick the last one
[04:11] <Arya> I'm trying to dual-boot using GRUB, but I don't know how to make GRUB load automatically when I put. ANyone?
[04:12] <chris86wm> hey guys, every time i click the properites of a file i get an error saying nautilus has quit unexpectedly. any ideas as to whats going on?
[04:12] <poningru> Arya: did you install anything yet?
[04:12] <Arya> yeah
[04:12] <Arya> Ubuntu
[04:12] <Arya> and XP
[04:12] <poningru> how did you install?
[04:13] <Arya> umm
[04:13] <Arya> CD
[04:13] <poningru> like how many hard drives do you have
[04:13] <Arya> i have 1
[04:13] <Arya> i partionened
[04:13] <poningru> and how did you partition?
[04:13] <Arya> one for linux
[04:13] <Arya> one for iwndows
[04:13] <Arya> one for swap
[04:13] <Arya> one for linux files
[04:13] <Arya> one for windows files
[04:13] <poningru> as in how much space did you put for each?
[04:13] <RedGhost_eric> is anyone here using Dapper>
[04:13] <RedGhost_eric> ?
[04:13] <Arya> lets see
[04:13] <Arya> 18: for OSes
[04:13] <dooglus> RedGhost_eric: yes
[04:13] <Arya> 2 for swap
[04:14] <Arya> <60 for files
[04:14] <chris86wm> any help guys?
[04:14] <Arya> 60+ for files
[04:14] <Syco54645> does anyone know where i can get the latest jre in a deb file?
[04:14] <Arya> Hey poningru, would you like to go into a quiter channel?
[04:14] <seele96> i noticed that my bandwidth transfer in ubunto is less than half than in windows mode. Is there anyway i can verify the NIC settings to see how things are set up?
[04:14] <ifwui45> hey guys, remember me? my problem was I couldnt get into the GUI...... well my friend said just to say startx and bam it worked.... just fyi
[04:15] <poningru> Arya: when you installed did it not install grub for you?
[04:15] <eriksays> can anyone help me setup my printer to share with the windows machines?
[04:15] <dooglus> Syco54645: get the .bin file from sun, and get "java-package" from the ubuntu repos.  'java-package' will make a .deb from sun's .bin
[04:15] <Arya> It installed grub.
[04:15] <Syco54645> dooglus: thanks man
[04:15] <Arya> I can access GRUB, it just doesn't occur automatically at boot.
[04:15] <dooglus> !java
[04:15] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[04:15] <dooglus> !javadebs
[04:15] <poningru> Arya: hmm thats lame hold on
[04:15] <chris86wm> every time i click the properites of a file i get an error saying nautilus has quit unexpectedly. any ideas as to whats going on?
[04:16] <Arya> hey
[04:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: Are you on Breezy or Dapper?
[04:16] <Arya> poningru: join channel #1
[04:16] <chris86wm> breezy
[04:16] <abnerian> sup
[04:16] <PuMpErNiCkLe> k
[04:16] <mcdenyer> what should i use to play media off the internet?
[04:17] <lguerra>  hi, someone has work with apple quadra 605 in linux?, my university send one to the trash, and i want run edubuntu thinclient in this machine
[04:17] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[04:17] <ubotu> well, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[04:18] <Arya> !1
[04:18] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Arya
[04:18] <bobby_> afternoon all, just setup a squid server and have setup (via webmin) the firewall to do NAT over the external interface (eth2) and we have an accept all for the internal interface (tcp on eth0)...no one inside the network can ping out or do any non port 8080 connections to the web
[04:18] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: it seems to do this when i click try to view properites of media files
[04:18] <bobby_> is there like a block all rule some where I'm missing?
[04:19] <mcdenyer> whats the command to get all the g streamer stuff?
[04:19] <bobby_> aptitude install gstreamer-plugins I believe
[04:20] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: Does this apply only for media files?
[04:20] <bobby_> also aptitude install gstreamer-plugins-multiverse
[04:20] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: it seems to
[04:20] <poningru> Arya: basically I am going to link you to a page that shows you how to reinstall grub
[04:20] <arcskon> Does anyone know if deleting files in linux actually erases them or just erases the name? I.e. can they be recovered with forensics software if you just delete them using rm ?
[04:20] <Arya> Pon: I already re-installed GRUB twice
[04:20] <dooglus> arcskon: it doesn't really erase
[04:20] <bobby_> arcade, once you delete the file it is gone, there is no 'soft' deletion like under windows
[04:20] <Arya> And updated my BIOS
[04:20] <Xenguy> arcskon: if you want to be more sure, apt-get install wipe
[04:20] <poningru> oh
[04:20] <poningru> wow
[04:20] <poningru> hmm thats weird
[04:20] <Dark_Oppressor> i have ubuntu and a radeon x800 pro, and cant seem to get 3d acceleration in games and such
[04:20] <arcskon> Xenguy, dooglus, thanks gentlemen
[04:20] <Dark_Oppressor> any ideas?
[04:21] <poningru> Arya: are you sure ubuntu and windows are on logical partitions?
[04:21] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: Are the media types supported under your setup?
[04:21] <poningru> how many partitions did you say you had?
[04:21] <dooglus> arcskon: bobby_ and I told you complete opposites :)
[04:21] <Arya> No, they are on primary partitions
[04:21] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: yes they are
[04:21] <bobby_> dooglus, yes I noticed :|
[04:21] <poningru> err right thats what I meant
[04:21] <arcskon> Oh....so who's right?
[04:21] <Arya> I never siad they were logical
[04:21] <Arya> ohh
[04:21] <Arya> Yes, positive.
[04:21] <poningru> my mistake
[04:21] <bobby_> arcade, assume dooglus and Xenguy
[04:21] <dooglus> arcskon: he got your name wrong though, so how much can you believe him?  ;)
[04:21] <poningru> so how many partitions are there?
[04:21] <bobby_> two against one :P
[04:22] <arcskon> haha
[04:22] <bobby_> gah!
[04:22] <Arya> Poningru: 4
[04:22] <bobby_> tab completion
[04:22] <Arya> Poningru: 1 is virtual and actually holds 2
[04:22] <poningru> yeah that doesnt have windows does it?
[04:22] <bobby_> just setup a squid server and have setup (via webmin) the firewall to do NAT over the external interface (eth2) and we have an accept all for the internal interface (tcp on eth0)...no one inside the network can ping out or do any non port 8080 connections to the web
[04:22] <poningru> the in the 2 virtual ones
[04:22] <Arya> Poningru: No. THose are for the files.
[04:22] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: currently its doing this with a .mov file
[04:22] <bobby_> is there like a block all rule some where I'm missing?
[04:22] <poningru> ok
[04:22] <poningru> hmm
[04:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: hang on a sec, I'll try it out myself
[04:23] <Arya> Poningru: Yeah, its that confusing.
[04:23] <poningru> Arya: I am at the end of my wits, I have no idea why grub will not boot automatically
[04:23] <mcdenyer> !gstreamer
[04:23] <bobby_> note that the server is a web server
[04:23] <ubotu> mcdenyer: I give up, what is it?
[04:23] <poningru> Arya: you may wanna give lilo a try
[04:23] <poningru> Arya: dude where are you from?
[04:23] <mcdenyer> whats the command to get g stremer?
[04:23] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: alrighty
[04:24] <dooglus> arcskon: it takes time to wipe a file, and filesystems are designed to be fast.  so they won't wipe a file by default.  if you want to test it, look how long it takes to delete a 4Gb file - no time at all.  there's no way 4 billion zeros were written in that time.
[04:24] <Arya> Poningru: Ohh sry
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: .mov files aren't supported by the default applications AFAIK... I'm using VLC to view them.
[04:24] <Arya> Poningru: reading.
[04:24] <bobby_> mmm so no one here is a networking guru for ubuntu :|
[04:24] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: This might make a difference.
[04:24] <Arya> Poningru: So, you think its GRUB and not the BIOS.
[04:24] <arcskon> dooglus: I guess that makes sense. i was hoping linux would be more secure than other operating systems but I guess it can't really be secure and practical/speedy at the same time
[04:24] <poningru> well it could be the bios
[04:24] <poningru> but not possible
[04:25] <poningru> err
[04:25] <poningru> probable
[04:25] <dooglus> arcskon: if you want all deleted files to be wiped, alias "rm" to "wipe"...
[04:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: Nope - I get the same error message you did.
[04:25] <Arya> Poningru: Previously, a guy was telling me I nned ot designate what drive to boot from. Yet, I don't know how to do that.
[04:25] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: well that must be it then, i was trying to change the default app to open the file to vlc
[04:25] <arcskon> dooglus: ok, thank you
[04:25] <ITSa341> Can anyone help me fix apt-get?
[04:25] <poningru> Arya: since its the same drive that wont help
[04:25] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks so much for clearing that up for me
[04:25] <Arya> Poningru: I only know to select harddrive or CD. I went into BIOS setup and found nothing.
[04:25] <PuMpErNiCkLe> chris86wm: I can't find anything like this in the forums, so I'll file a bug report now.
[04:25] <chris86wm> PuMpErNiCkLe: thanks alot, and yeah nothing in the forums
[04:25] <dooglus> arcskon: or wipe free space perioidically with a cron job
[04:25] <poningru> Arya: yeah since this is all in one hd...
[04:25] <Arya> Poningru: Well, when I want to boot GRUB, I go into BOOT OPTIONS: and click Primary Master Drive
[04:25] <arcskon> oh good idea
[04:26] <dooglus> arcskon: or use an encrypted filesystem
[04:26] <Notr3v3> #Manaus
[04:26] <Arya> Poningru: That brings up GRUB.
[04:26] <arcskon> dooglus: what's an encryped filesystem
[04:26] <Arya> Poningru: Yet, I don't know how to get BIOS to do that auto.
[04:26] <dooglus> arcskon: where everything gets encrypted before it's written to disk, and decrypted on the fly as it's read back
[04:26] <dooglus> arcskon: see 'cryptsetup'
[04:26] <mcdenyer> can someone kindly help me set up simple media for my pc?
[04:27] <arcskon> dooglus: k, thanks
[04:27] <poningru> Arya: you only have one hard drive so bios selects that and looks to a boot loader (such as grub) and the boot loader takes it from there
[04:27] <ITSa341> When I booted up this morning it says 3 updates ready to install but gives this error when I let it install them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372  I tried apt-get clean but that didn't help. Now apt-get gives me that error whenever I try to install anything.
[04:28] <poningru> I am guessing its grub
[04:28] <Arya> Poningru: Hmmm, so try LILO?
[04:28] <dooglus> hmmm.  wipe doesn't have an option to wipe free space.  is there a program which can do that?
[04:28] <poningru> Arya: yeah
[04:28] <Arya> I"ll try that.
[04:28] <poningru> !lilo
[04:28] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, poningru
[04:28] <poningru> grr
[04:29] <Arya> Poningru: sry, but open soruce is like that
[04:29] <Arya> i can find it
[04:29] <Arya> thanks for the help
[04:29] <poningru> Arya: yep
[04:30] <poningru> Arya: good luck
[04:30] <poningru> hope this works out
[04:31] <Xenguy> ITSa341: can you just mv the offending DEB to /tmp, and then try another update ?
[04:31] <Xenguy> ITSa341: (standard disclaimers here, as I don't know for sure that will work :-)
[04:31] <ITSa341> Xneguy  I cleared all the debs and tried it again   same error no matter what I try to install
[04:31] <ITSa341> Xenguy**
[04:33] <pinko> Hello sirs.
[04:33] <Xenarchy> my ATI FireGL T2 128mb card in my IBM T42p laptop is being picky or something. I upgraded to the fglx drivers and all has gone to hell.
[04:33] <Xenarchy> I *think* I got it stable now but I'm still not sure.
[04:34] <pinko> Gnumeric question: what browser is would it like, in order to follow links from a spreadsheet?
[04:34] <Xenarchy> nope sitll broken. /sigh I guess I'll have to reinstall.
[04:34] <pinko> I will ask in gnome, when I remember what their server is...
[04:35] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: What were you using before?  Can you 'downgrade' to that, or is it insufficient for you?
[04:35] <Xenarchy> I can't keep my display up long enough to do that
[04:35] <bpuccio> pinko: are you saying when you click links in Gnumeric, that it loads a browser other than what you'd like?
[04:35] <Xenarchy> I'm just going to reinstall... i'll be quicker. I've already wasted an hour trying to edit conf files for the 2min i can see anything
[04:36] <pinko> bpuccio: 'There was an error launching the default action command associated with this location.'
[04:36] <bpuccio> it should follow what Gnome says, which can be changed under System -> Preferences -> Preferred Applications, I would think
[04:36] <bpuccio> pinko: one second, let me go look
[04:36] <Xenarchy> and all I wanted to do was get a ruby dev environment running. :(
[04:37] <pinko> bpuccio: not running gnome.  Though I should probably go find my laptop (which does have gnome) and see what happens there.
[04:37] <cemmel> if i type 'users' from a terminal, it shows my user id listed 4 times; likewise, when i type 'uptime' it says 4 users; how do i get those extra 3 instances of me logged out?
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: If you switch to a console, you can reconfigure the xserver to use the OSS driver instead.
[04:37] <Xenarchy> oh well. I should have known better than the mess with what was arlready working
[04:37] <ITSa341> Can anyone help me fix apt-get?
[04:37] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe i can't even do that. the screen just stays blank
[04:37] <bpuccio> pinko: and you get that message when you click a hyperlink in Gnumeric?
[04:37] <pinko> yes
[04:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: ctrl + alt + F2 gives you a blank screen?  (ctrl + alt + F7 should take you back to the gui)
[04:38] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe I think something got screwy when I did sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:38] <pinko> bpuccio: I got that when trying to launch help, and then I figured out that it wanted "yelp", so that fixed that.
[04:38] <Xenarchy> i'll try again, one sec
[04:38] <pinko> but for links, I still don't know what it wants
[04:38] <adub> ok im trying to assign a direct connection without sending anything first in gaim how can i do this
[04:38] <bpuccio> pinko: hmm, ok, I'm not sure, the only thing I can find via google is this: http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnumeric-list/2005-February/msg00044.html
[04:39] <bpuccio> I'm sorry, pinko, but I can't help you with this issue, sorry :/
[04:41] <selene> kjhkj
[04:41] <cemmel> if there are 4 instances of myself logged in (as reported by the 'users' command), how do i log out the other 3 instances?
[04:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: ...
[04:41] <Milk> ello!!
[04:42] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cemmel: Depends... where does it say they're logged in?
[04:42] <Milk> is it possible to transfer the root and swap file systems from one drive to another without reinstalling the os?
[04:42] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe even in the console my display is all screwy. I think something went wrong durring hte install.
[04:42] <toya89> how come j2re is not in my synaptic
[04:42] <cemmel> pumpernickle, when i type 'users' from a terminal, it lists my user id 4 times, and when i type 'uptime' from a terminal, it says 4 users are logged in
[04:43] <toya89> btw, do i still need j2re if i already have j2sdk1.5.6
[04:43] <toya89> trying to install azureus
[04:43] <m0wax> toya89: I don't thinkso
[04:43] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: That sounds seriously messed up... changing a video card driver shouldn't mess up the console. o_O
[04:44] <Milk> has anyone even tried it?
[04:44] <cemmel> pumpernickle, is there a better way to see who is logged in?
[04:44] <toya89> i don't think so too
[04:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cemmel: Try running 'who'... if it lists users on pts/0 for example, then it's only listing you on a terinal emulator like the one you're using to run the 'who' command. :)
[04:44] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe everything was fine till I did apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[04:44] <jbzz> cemmel:    Why not reboot?  Then check for additional users after rebooting.
[04:45] <pinko> Milk: isn't that what dd is for?
[04:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> jbzz: Rebooting is against the unix way ;)
[04:45] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe i think what might have killed it was that I did it as sudo instead of root? or perhaps the fact that I turned the root user on to make installing ruby easier.
[04:45] <cemmel> pumpernickle, it lists me on tty, :0, pts/0, and pts/1
[04:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: I doubt it... that's fairly standard stuff.
[04:45] <Milk> pinko, dd?
[04:45] <agent_bob> why does linux not include  ./  in the path by default ?
[04:45] <toya89> what are bz2 files?
[04:45] <jbzz> PuMpErNiCkLe:  funny comment!
[04:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cemmel: pts/0 and pts/1 are terminal emulators run within your GUI... you should be able to see them somewhere :)
[04:46] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe mmm I'll just reinstall. I'm just glad I havn't started my research yet
[04:46] <agent_bob> toya89 compressed.
[04:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: k, sorry I couldn't help more
[04:46] <agent_bob>  .zip .gz .bz2  are compression types
[04:46] <ITSa341> Help Please. When I booted up this morning it says 3 updates ready to install but gives this error when I let it install them http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372  I tried apt-get clean but that didn't help. Now apt-get gives me that error whenever I try to install anything.
[04:46] <cemmel> pumpernickle, interesting. thanks :)
[04:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> cemmel: np
[04:46] <toya89> hm ok
[04:47] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe no problem. you've been more than enough help. I don't expect anyone to troubleshoot over IRC
[04:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: One last thing...
[04:47] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: Are you using a CRT monitor?
[04:48] <Milk> pinko, can you be more specific than dd
[04:48] <m0wax> can someone point me to a howto, or just tell me if its simple, how to change the sources/repositories for apt.  I want to change it to somewhere closer to home so its quicker
[04:48] <pinko> Milk: it's worth looking into.  I have no experience with it, but find it often recommended for copying drives.
[04:49] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe no ... and i just figured out that it is a hardware issue
[04:49] <Xenarchy> PuMpErNiCkLe i went and rebooted only to see the IBM boot logo all screwed up
[04:49] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: ouch :-/
[04:49] <Milk> pinko, dd is the software?
[04:49] <mightyelectro> i have windows xp media center 2005 installed still on my computer and tried to install ubuntu linux with grub multi os boot screen but then tried to delete ubuntu and grub is still on there and it wont let me boot to my windows os it says error 22 please help
[04:49] <draconius> Anybody here had the sound crackle and pop when you drag around terminals, and do other graphical stuff? (IE, sending this message makes static crackles)
[04:49] <Xenarchy> this is my baby :( /cry
[04:49] <NCLife> hi, ive got a problem with my other account, whenever i try to login, i have an error
[04:49] <agent_bob> toya89 .tar  is an archive format  but it is usually compressed with gzip(.tar.gz or .tgz)  or  bzip2(.tar.bz2)  the manual pages   'man tar ;man gzip ;man bzip2'  have more than you ever wanted to know about them.
[04:49] <NCLife> oh, let me find the error message
[04:50] <pinko> Milk: it's one of the coreutils.  very small and powerful
[04:50] <frazmanw> I noticed in synaptic gnome package is unchecked, but individual componants are checked and it is 2.10  What is involved in updating to gnome 2.12?
[04:50] <pinko> Milk: I'm quite certain you already have it installed
[04:50] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: If it's an LCD, does it have an auto-configure button on it? (Mine does - it may help)
[04:51] <NCLife> arg, i cant find it.. it had a Unable to open /home/jean/.gnome2: Permission Denied
[04:51] <vader> mightyelectro, boot to the winxp disk and do this from recovery....fixmbr
[04:51] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Xenarchy: I'm not much of a hardware debugger, though, so that's about all I can offer. o_O
[04:51] <NCLife> and that happened after i changed Permissions to the home folder /home/jaen
[04:51] <NCLife> jean*
[04:51] <pinko> but you'll have to find some docs for it, since it seems to be multitalented, and the man page doesn't cover all its talents.
[04:51] <mightyelectro> fixmbr?
[04:51] <vader> yes, it will erase GRUB off of the drive
[04:51] <agent_bob> which app is it that gives 'whatprovides & whatrequires' listings ?
[04:52] <Milk> are there any switches I should use with FSCK while scanning a drive?
[04:52] <Xenarchy> man oh man this sucks.
[04:52] <cafuego> blaaaargh
[04:52] <toya89> how do i check disk space left
[04:52] <Xenarchy> i've only had this thing for 1.5 years
[04:52] <agent_bob> toya89 'df -h'
[04:52] <draconius> toya89: open up a terminal and type in df -h
[04:52] <draconius> err
[04:52] <toya89> thanks
[04:52] <draconius> :)
[04:52] <mightyelectro> so its on the install disc of win xp and its recovery
[04:52] <Xenarchy> perhaps it is the lcd
[04:53] <Xenarchy> i'm gonna try out a crt
[04:53] <NCLife> ive tried sudo chown -A jean:jean /home/jean and nothing happened
[04:53] <agent_bob> the -h means 'human readable' on that one.
[04:53] <mightyelectro> the only way im on this chat is im on aa ubuntu live cd lol
[04:54] <cafuego> NCLife: What was that supposed to accomplish? (chown doesn't have a -A param)
[04:54] <mightyelectro> thanks for the help ill try it
[04:54] <vader> mightyelectro, I have had the problem before....it will work
[04:54] <mightyelectro> vadar
[04:54] <NCLife> cafuego, it was supposed to change the Permissions on the home folder of my other user account
[04:54] <cafuego> NCLife: -R then
[04:54] <mightyelectro> k thanks
[04:54] <cafuego> NCLife: Not -A
[04:54] <cafuego> NCLife: (That's recursively change all ownership in that dir)
[04:55] <agent_bob> echo 'alias ls="ls -Ash --color=auto"' >> ~/.bashrc
[04:55] <NCLife> cafuego, thanks.. well, i tried that, and i still get the same error
[04:55] <Milk> another question... has anyone run into gdesklets using an ungodly amount of memory?
[04:55] <cafuego> NCLife: An error? I thought you said nothing happened...
[04:56] <NCLife> well, i get this error, about being unable to open /home/jean/.gnome2 because the Permission was Denied
[04:56] <CVirus> is it easy to upgrade between different ubntu releases ?
[04:56] <cafuego> NCLife: What are the perms on /home/jean/.gnome2 then?
[04:56] <RedGhost_eric> if i use java-package to create a .deb file and install the deb file, will it automatically register with mozilla-firefox?
[04:56] <Milk> CVirus, yes, very
[04:57] <CVirus> Milk: using synaptic ?
[04:57] <Milk> CVirus, I havn't done it via synaptic, but I'm sure its not tough... command line would be apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:57] <agent_bob> you know i really don't like reloading all that well,  but if i can't get this mouse to work, this system has got to go.
[04:57] <NCLife> cafuego, if i remember well, i had changed the home permissions once to 744 or something like that, then it kept me telling at login that they should be 644, so i changed them to 644.. and now i get that error
[04:57] <CVirus> Milk: its easy to be done through apt-get ?
[04:58] <ifwui45> hey guys, how do I access the root account?
[04:58] <RedGhost_eric> sudo
[04:58] <ifwui45> how do i do that?
[04:58] <RedGhost_eric> type sudo <command>
[04:58] <ifwui45> im a big newb
[04:58] <ifwui45> first linux install
[04:58] <RedGhost_eric> it will ask for your password on your current account
[04:58] <cafuego> NCLife: Yes. 644 is okay for a file, but NOT for a directory. It means you can't cd into it. Set it to 755. (chmod 755 /home/jean/.gnome2)
[04:58] <bob832> if i run a vpn, is that mean that i'll be able to have a remote computer, connected to the internet, seem like it is connected to the local network?
[04:58] <Milk> CVirus, as I said.. its just    apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:58] <ifwui45> where do I type it
[04:58] <cafuego> bob832: yes
[04:59] <CVirus> Milk: Thanks alot
[04:59] <Milk> CVirus, and at the worst, you'd have to edit  /etc/sources.list
[04:59] <agent_bob> ifwui45  sudo -i     for a root shell
[04:59] <cafuego> bob832: Except it'll be a bit slower.
[04:59] <NCLife> cafuego, okss
[04:59] <Milk> CVirus, no problem!! Glad to help!
[04:59] <ifwui45> where do i type it...
[04:59] <bob832> cafuego. . . understanble,
[04:59] <bob832> thanks
[04:59] <agent_bob> terminal
[04:59] <cafuego> Whoops, disk full.
[04:59] <nekostar> gnomefreak, plett btw
[04:59] <nekostar> yall were totally right hehehehe
[04:59] <ifwui45> how do I get to that?
[04:59] <xapaho> ifwui45> http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/faq?highlight=%28root%29%7C%28account%29
[04:59] <agent_bob> the gnome menu
[04:59] <nekostar> i happen to have another laptop and i tossed the hdd in the farkeawer32452345#@$%@# up one and sure enough all goodish
[05:00] <nekostar> except its my hdd :/
[05:00] <NCLife> cafuego, i typed that command and i still get the same error :S
[05:00] <nekostar> hi btw cafuego ;-0
[05:01] <allison_1984> will I need samba to be able to use a network printer ?
[05:01] <NCLife> i typed that command from my main user account, /home/nclife.. with sudo. Is that ok?
[05:01] <xapaho> hi there! Do you know of a source control, bug tracking & project management system, reported to work fine under Breezy -- I'm looking for something that allows remote, offline use, then online sync, of c. :) At a glance, some light version of BugZilla + DeskZilla I guess. I've done some very heavy, heavy search (googled several days all together) and am a bit discouraged! Any clue?
[05:02] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Where is the printer attached?
[05:02] <allison_1984> on a windows network
[05:02] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Since the other machine is sharing you do not need Samba.
[05:03] <ifwui45> ok I read the faq and I am now using sudo, how do I know what command to use?
[05:03] <allison_1984> jbzz: so how do I connect to the printer ? or the files on the server
[05:03] <bnD> ifwui45, to do what?
[05:03] <NCLife> cafuego, i mean /home/sinclair. but nothing happened, am i doing something wrong?
[05:03] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Are you running Ubuntu?
[05:03] <allison_1984> yes
[05:04] <agent_bob> ifwui45 hehhe you need to know what you want to happen then ask what command to get it to happen
[05:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> xapaho: Does launchpad cover any of what you want? (www.launchpad.net)
[05:04] <bnD> agent_bob, my thoughts exactly :)
[05:04] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Did you try adding a printer and indicating you want to connect to the Windows printer?
[05:04] <xapaho> ifwui45, i was gonna ask the same as bnD, you don't much help us to help u :) what do you want to achieve ?
[05:04] <pinpoint> i just got the dvd and it looks like it booting from cd
[05:04] <allison_1984> jbzz: my admin is telling me I have to go back to windows, which I so don't want to
[05:04] <pinpoint> 5.10
[05:04] <pinpoint> i wanted it to install
[05:05] <ifwui45> http://outlands.ca/linux/t8000.html
[05:05] <allison_1984> jbzz: I did add a printer
[05:05] <ifwui45> see the resolution thing?
[05:05] <ifwui45> I want to do that
[05:05] <bnD> pinpoint, is it an install medium?
[05:05] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Well I connect to a Windows printer from my Ubuntu.
[05:05] <pinpoint> not sure. it was an ISO file
[05:05] <bnD> ifwui45, cd /etc/X11
[05:06] <bnD> ifwui45, nano xorg.conf
[05:06] <allison_1984> jbzz: how did you do it ?
[05:06] <bnD> ifwui45, follow the instructions on the page .. then when youre done, hit ctrl + X to close , then Y to confirm
[05:06] <allison_1984> do you have a network username ?
[05:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:  I added a printer, but chose a network printer, and it was a 'Windows (smb)'  connection.
[05:07] <xapaho> PuMpErNiCkLe, yes txs I spent quite some time reading Malone descr -- let me remember...
[05:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Then I had to indicate where it was located.
[05:07] <xapaho> but it doesn't sync does it ?
[05:07] <bnD> allison_1984, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28printer%29 might help you a bit..
[05:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Then I had a user account I used that was allowed on the Windows machine.
[05:07] <allison_1984> jbzz: what is the location ?
[05:07] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright
[05:08] <allison_1984> jbzz: thanks
[05:08] <bnD> allison_1984, if you still have problems, try the wiki if you havent ^
[05:08] <jbzz> allison_1984:  When you fill in the 'add printer' and indicate it is a network printer you will have options for filling in the loaction of the remote printer.
[05:08] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Are you still with me?
[05:08] <allison_1984> bnD: sure I don't need samba for accessing the server files ?
[05:08] <bnD> allison_1984, it should say on the wiki
[05:08] <allison_1984> jbzz: yes
[05:09] <allison_1984> bnD: looking up the wiki now
[05:09] <jbzz> allison_1984:  I have set up Sambe here to share a hard drive.  But I had been using the Windows printer prior to that time.
[05:09] <PuMpErNiCkLe> xapaho: I don't know what it's capable of - I've just used it briefly for bug tracking and noticed it could supposedly do more, so I mentioned it. ^^
[05:10] <allison_1984> jbzz: ok, hmmmmm, sometime I should be setting up samba then
[05:10] <pinpoint> bnD,  2.9G  Install/live DVD for Intel x86 computers
[05:10] <jbzz> allison_1984:  But I must tell you that when I filled in the Ubuntu form for attaching to the Windows printer ...
[05:10] <mcdenyer> how do i play movies from ebaums????
[05:10] <bnD> pinpoint, and it loaded to livecd?
[05:10] <ITSa341> Can anyone give me some advice about gnome-apt?
[05:10] <pinpoint> yes
[05:10] <pinpoint> i just pressed enter
[05:10] <jbzz> allison_1984:  I had to go into a file and manually change the text to make the printer connection correct.
[05:10] <pinpoint> boot:
[05:10] <tck> hey fluxbox question
[05:11] <pinpoint> bnD, did i need to type something?
[05:11] <tck> im using the latest dapper drake and installed the server version, how do i get fluxbox working ?
[05:11] <michael> I've used vncviewer(linux) to connect to a vncserver(windows) - how can i connect  vncviewer(windows) to a vncserver(linux)                 What do I need to have running onLinux?
[05:11] <bnD> pinpoint, yes, try pressing f1 and f2 before pressing enter, it should tell you what to type
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> michael,  run the vncserver on linux :P
[05:11] <ITSa341> has anyone here tried gnome apt?
[05:11] <nanotube> hello all
[05:11] <Dr_Willis> michael,  is the easy way. but there was a bug with vncserver last i tried it.
[05:11] <bnD> hi nanotube
[05:11] <xapaho> PuMpErNiCkLe, ok thxs -- well I'd love its "infestation" concept, since I have written an xml dtd dor the soft doc, that precisely take care of this concept! If it just had this offline client I'm looking for, I'd dive for it
[05:12] <allison_1984> jbzz: hmmm, sounds complicated
[05:12] <mcdenyer> how do i make firefox use g stremer to play media on the net????
[05:12] <jbzz> allison_1984:  I first tried to attach to the printer, then I went into the file and made the necessary correction.  Not really too bad.
[05:12] <allison_1984> jbzz: wouldn't it be just easier with samba then ?
[05:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> xapaho: You could file a feature-request ;)
[05:12] <agent_bob> anybody got a good sujestion for getting gpm to work here ?     i can  od /dev/psaux   and the device is fine  but for some reason i cant seem to get gpm to connect to it.    expert help?
[05:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> michael: Use 'vnc4server'
[05:12] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Samba allows YOU to share YOUR hard drives and printers with others.
[05:12] <nanotube> question about cpu frequencies: my /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies lists only two possible freqs, and my gnome-panel cpu applet also only uses only those two (unsurprisingly). but under windows i have seen the cpu throttled to much lower levels than that. how can i enable lower cpu frequencies?
[05:12] <allison_1984> jbzz: lemme try it and see if it works...thanks anyway
[05:13] <ITSa341> mcdenyer  isn't there a firefox extension for easily setting what helper apps autolaunch?
[05:13] <__Dwayne> anyone know for sure that you get a performance boost with a Radeon 9500 card by using the fglrx drivers rather than the generic ATI?
[05:13] <bnD> mcdenyer, sudo apt-get install totem-gstreamer-firefox-plugin
[05:14] <mcdenyer> bnD, couldnt find the package
[05:14] <NCLife> cafuego? you still there?
[05:14] <bnD> nanotube, check this out -> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/11/04/enabling-cpu-frequency-scaling/
[05:15] <pinpoint> bnD, linux debian-installer/framebuffer=false
[05:15] <xapaho> PuMpErNiCkLe: I start to think the reason why nobody does it, is because nobody knows how to develop it :) DeskZilla seems to be unique of its kind, and is commercial (w/ exception, ok, but!). Have you ever heard of any other client/server application ?
[05:15] <bnD> pinpoint, ?
[05:15] <mcdenyer> bnD, thats oackage3 wasnt found
[05:15] <bnD> mcdenyer, have you added universe repository?
[05:15] <pinpoint> thats to install?
[05:15] <bnD> pinpoint, i havent used the dvd , it should be fairly understandable, give it a try :)
[05:15] <mcdenyer> bnD,  yes
[05:16] <bnD> mcdenyer, its in backports* have you enabled?
[05:16] <tck> anyone running fluxbox?
[05:16] <bnD> tck, yes
[05:16] <nanotube> bnD: i have seen that. the problem is, that on that page his /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_available_frequencies lists many different possible frequencies. mine lists only two.
[05:16] <mcdenyer> bnD, sorry dont know what backports are
[05:16] <tck> bnD, how did u install it, im using the server version on dapper flight 3
[05:16] <bnD> ah nanotube im sorry, i dont know the answer for ya
[05:16] <tck> dont have startx etc..
[05:17] <bnD> tck, ;) youll need a few things, pm me
[05:17] <NCLife> or anyone? i gave 644 permissions to my home folder in a user account, now i cant login to it because it is unable to open /home/jean/.gnome2
[05:17] <tck> bnD do i have to register to pm you ?
[05:17] <xapaho> PuMpErNiCkLe> sorry I meat 'standalone' app not client/srv -- I'm getting tired, been working for 20+ hours I guess I should go to bed :)
[05:17] <bnD> tck,im unsure
[05:17] <nanotube> bnd: well, thanks for trying :)
[05:17] <michael> Sorry if this is a flood - does this mean vncserver is working?
[05:17] <michael> michael@mluntu:~$ vnc4server
[05:17] <mcdenyer> bnD,  how do i enable backports?
[05:17] <michael> Found /usr/share/vnc-java for http connections.
[05:17] <michael> New 'mluntu:1 (michael)' desktop is mluntu:1
[05:17] <michael> Starting applications specified in /home/michael/.vnc/xstartup
[05:17] <michael> Log file is /home/michael/.vnc/mluntu:1.log
[05:17] <NCLife> i typed sudo chmod 755 /home/jean/.gnome2 in my main user account but the same error appeares
[05:17] <bnD> mcdenyer, go to /etc/apt/sources.list (using sudo)  and uncomment the line for backports, then exit, save, and type sudo apt-get update
[05:18] <tck> bnD, join #flux-help-ubuntu
[05:18] <agent_bob> NCLife dirs have to be executed   755
[05:18] <michael> because i still can't connect
[05:18] <nanotube> nclife: switch to console mode (ctrl-alt-f1), log in, and change permissions back
[05:18] <Johnny0> G'devening everyone
[05:18] <NCLife> nanotube, okay ill try that
[05:18] <Johnny0> How do I check for broken packages ?
[05:18] <__Dwayne> evening Johnny0
[05:18] <mcdenyer> bnd what do you mean uncomment delete it?
[05:18] <agent_bob> NCLife dirs have to be executed   chmod 755 /home/*
[05:18] <Johnny0> my terminal services is broken
[05:19] <Jeffrae> Hi
[05:19] <agent_bob> the directory is not letting you in.
[05:19] <__Dwayne> hi Jeffrae
[05:19] <nanotube> mcdenyer: uncomment means to remove the # character from in front of the line.
[05:20] <mcdenyer> nanotube, ok ty
[05:20] <NCLife> nanotube, i tried and it told me "cannot access /home/jean/.gnome2: Permission Denied
[05:20] <m0wax> what are tmpfs partitions for?
[05:20] <nanotube> nclife: tell me exactly what you did before it gave you that error. what commands did you enter?
[05:21] <bnD> mcdenyer, no dont delete the line, delete the # in front of it :)
[05:21] <Jeffrae> I recieved a Dell 3000cn as a gift.. I am trying to get it to work with my Ubuntu Install...  I have been referencing http://www.mit.edu/~jik/3000cn/  for assistance.. It appears that Breezy Badger does not have the latest version of ghostscript installed.. Has anyone here ever upgraded their gs esp?
[05:21] <Johnny0> !ubotu
[05:21] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[05:21] <NCLife> nanotube, chmod 755 /home/jean/.gnome2
[05:21] <agent_bob> hah  i did it.
[05:21] <mcdenyer> bnd ok wheres the backports one
 hah  i did it.
[05:21] <Jeffrae> !ubotu
[05:21] <bnD> mcdenyer, press ctrl+w then type backport then enter
[05:21] <agent_bob> :)
[05:21] <bnD> mcdenyer, thatll find the line for you
[05:22] <nanotube> nclife: hmm, try it with sudo?
[05:22] <Johnny0> !ubotu tell Johnny0 about broken packages
[05:22] <bnD> mcdenyer, assuming youre in nano :x sorry
[05:22] <ifwui45> in the terminal, how do I change directories?
[05:22] <NCLife> nanotube, i think i cant do it as root because that user account dont have administration tasks auorisation
[05:22] <nanotube> nclife: or even better, try changing permissions on /home/jean first?
[05:22] <agent_bob> ok i'll just add the modprobe lines and the gpm line to an init script and it should start on reboot....
[05:22] <ifwui45> I want to go to /etc/X11 and edit xorg.cfg
[05:22] <Johnny0> !ubotu tell Johnny0 about checking packages
[05:22] <bnD> mcdenyer, uncomment the line BELOW # Ubuntu backports project (packages, GPG key: 437D05B5)
[05:23] <mcdenyer> bnD, it didnt find a backport in there
[05:23] <mcdenyer> bnd im looking in my sources list right?
[05:23] <bnD> mcdenyer, sources.list yes
[05:23] <Jeffrae> !ubotu tell jeffrae about mp3
[05:23] <mcdenyer> bnd i just installed and dont have a good list
[05:23] <nanotube> nclife: then try doing 'ls -al /home' to see what user owns the /home/jean, and 'ls -al /home/jean' and see what user owns .gnome2
[05:23] <Johnny0> Anyone - how do I check for broken packages ? or repair broken packages ?
[05:23] <Orborde> How do I read out the RSA fingerprints in my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file ?
[05:23] <agent_bob> ifwui45 then do this. in a terminal type 'sudo nano /etc/X11/xorg.conf '
[05:23] <__Dwayne> !ubotu tell __Dwayne about checking packages
[05:24] <nanotube> nclife: because if you are the owner of the file or dir, you should not be getting permissions errors...
[05:24] <NCLife> nanotube, oks
[05:24] <agent_bob> and edit till your heart is content....
[05:24] <bnD> mcdenyer, you have a PM
[05:25] <mcdenyer> bnd can u copy me your source list?
[05:25] <NCLife> nanotube, drw-r--r--  52 jean     jean     8192 2006-01-18 12:04 jean.. i guess its owned by jean
[05:25] <bimberi> Johnny0: sudo apt-get -f install
[05:25] <bnD> mcdenyer, ill send it to you
[05:25] <NCLife> nanotube, and /home/jean/.gnome2: Permission denied
[05:26] <mcdenyer> bnd i thought i enabled the multiverse and univers using synaptic like wiki said but i guess theres more t oti
[05:26] <Johnny0> thanks bimberi
[05:26] <nanotube> nclife: ah heh, of course permission denied on gnome2, cuz you dont have the x bits on /home/jean.
[05:26] <bimberi> Johnny0: np :)
[05:26] <Jeffrae> can I get mp3's and etc to play right in my browser?
[05:26] <nanotube> nclife: try 'chmod 755 /home/jean' ?
[05:26] <CVirus> I want a decent GUI app that can convert any format into VCD .. suggestions ?
[05:26] <SD> do make and gcc come with ubuntu?
[05:27] <agent_bob> sd yes
[05:27] <bpuccio> SD: yes
[05:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> SD: yes
[05:27] <bimberi> SD: not installed by default, install build-essential
[05:27] <mcdenyer> bnd hmm our firewall i think is stoppping it
[05:27] <mcdenyer> bnd just pm me it
[05:27] <agent_bob> apt-get install build-essential
[05:27] <SD> i c
[05:27] <Orborde> SD: And if not, sudo apt-get install make gcc
[05:27] <SD> thanks
[05:27] <bnD> mcdenyer, if you cant get that file, go to www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic to make one easily
[05:27] <SD> done
[05:27] <Johnny0> bimberi: how do I check for broken packages ? sudo apt-get -f install
[05:27] <earobinson> anyone know how I can get my password reset
[05:27] <earobinson> ?
[05:27] <xapaho> txs everyone
[05:27] <earobinson> I seem to have forgot it
[05:27] <earobinson> (freenode password)
[05:27] <mcdenyer> bnd but i want yours :)
[05:27] <NCLife> nanotube, oh.. i did the ls -al with sudo and this here it is.. drwxr-xr-x  10 jean jean     4096 2006-01-17 12:52 .gnome2
[05:28] <bnD> mcdenyer, thats how i made mine
[05:28] <pinpoint> bnD, seems to be working
[05:28] <pinpoint> thanks
[05:28] <bnD> pinpoint, congrats :)
[05:28] <agent_bob> earobinson passwd
[05:28] <agent_bob> oh hehhe
[05:28] <Johnny0> I've tried reinstalling the terminal services client - but nada - still no worky worky
[05:28] <pinpoint> is the new 5.10 have those cd/hd issues fixed
[05:28] <bimberi> Johnny0: yes, that will attempt to fix a system with broken dependencies
[05:28] <pinpoint> the DMA
[05:28] <Orborde> How do I read out the RSA fingerprints (and hostnames, if possible) in my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file ?
[05:28] <nanotube> nclife: so i guess the problem is on your /home/jean directory permissions. did you do 'chmod 755 /home/jean' ?
[05:28] <pinpoint> i had to modify them in hoary
[05:28] <agent_bob> earobinson  /msg nickserv help
[05:28] <pinpoint> so it stopped lagging
[05:28] <bnD> pinpoint, im running reiserfs with dma enabled no probs
[05:29] <mcdenyer> bnD, ok the us 2 letter code is us right?
[05:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, yes
[05:29] <pinpoint> yeah, hoary at first was laggy playing dvds
[05:29] <NCLife> nanotube, yes. let me see if i keep getting the error
[05:29] <bnD> pinpoint, yea well, it if is again, at least you know how to fix it ;)
[05:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, im away, good luck :)
[05:29] <mcdenyer> bnD, and do i check all the boxes ?
[05:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, read what they are
[05:29] <jbzz> NCLife:  Are you logged in as 'jean' or someone else?
[05:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, and make choices on what you want/need :) (id check them all except for wine and openoffice)
[05:30] <nanotube> jbzz: ah hehe, good thing to check :)
[05:30] <bnD> afk
[05:30] <agent_bob> ok i think i will kill two birds,  reboot into that other os and make sure the sound card works, then back to here and make sure i fixed the mouse to work on boot....
[05:30] <agent_bob> bbiab
[05:31] <NCLife> jbzz, im logged in my main account, but thanks.. the sudo chmod 755 /home/jean worked! i could login to jean :D
[05:31] <earobinson> Anyone know how to recover a lost freeenode password? Person that was helping me left
[05:31] <neoxan_> penis
[05:31] <NCLife> nanotube, i can login again!! thanks ^^
[05:31] <neoxan_> you are a penis, i am a penis, everyone is a penis!
[05:31] <nanotube> nclife: excellent! :)
[05:31] <neoxan_> we all are penis!
[05:32] <bimberi> Johnny0: ah, but that's not what you want.  hm, you could completely remove the package with 'sudo apt-get remove --purge <package>' and then install it again (although this can get messy if it takes lots of dependencies with it)
[05:32] <NCLife> nanotube, its weird why the problem still persisted with "sudo chmod 755 /home/jean/.gnome2" and "sudo chown -R /home/jean"
[05:33] <frazmanw> I installed mplayer, and when I play video (dvd) the output is limited in size, if I go fullscreen or resize at all the output video size does not change but the window gets bigger. Which basically gives me black all around it. Please advise? do I need to use different video driver?
[05:33] <NCLife> but with chmod 755 /home/jean went smoothly away
[05:33] <nanotube> nclife: wel, the problem is that /home/jean was not readable, so stuff inside it could not be read either. also, "chown -R /home/jean" does not do anything, because you did not specify what to chown TO. (chown is change owner/group)
[05:33] <neoxan_> penis
[05:34] <neoxan_> !
[05:34] <ubotu> No idea, neoxan_
[05:34] <neoxan_> p - e - n - i - s
[05:34] <bimberi> !ops
[05:34] <ubotu> well, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[05:34] <neoxan_> sorry
[05:34] <NCLife> nanotube, ooh, i see
[05:34] <NCLife> lol
[05:34] <bimberi> nalioth: thanks
[05:34] <trojaavr> Can anyone help me; I need to install LimeWire, and the link that it shows in the guide for installing it, is down.
[05:34] <nalioth> very uncalled for.
[05:34] <NCLife> :) i've leanred not to play with file permissions in home
[05:34] <nalioth> ubotu: tell neoxan_ about conduct
[05:34] <ajmitch> nalioth: thanks, faster than I am
[05:34] <ITSa341> nalioth   TY
[05:35] <varsendagger> hey is there a good graphical user interface for creating web pages like page mill or frontpage for linux?
[05:35] <neoxan> sorry guys
[05:35] <SD> i hear nvu is good
[05:35] <ITSa341> versendagger   nvu.org
[05:35] <nanotube> nclife: indeed. :) if you ever have doubts as to proper usage of command, first thing to refer to is the manual. (eg 'man chown').
[05:35] <rjm101> does anyone here know how to set up spca5xx so that  it works?? Help please
[05:36] <nalioth> ITSa341: nvu is in the repos. use apt or synaptic
[05:36] <bimberi> varsendagger: screem is another
[05:36] <frazmanw> I fixed my own mplayer issue.
[05:36] <ITSa341> cool
[05:36] <ITSa341> ty
[05:36] <RexKwonDo> I just installed a half-gig stick of SD Ram in my box, but the system info tool shows only 504.4 MiB running, just like before... is there something I'm missing?
[05:36] <ITSa341> nalioth  my apt-get is broken
[05:36] <trojaavr> Can anyone help me; I need to install LimeWire, and the link that it shows in the guide for installing it, is down.
[05:36] <blacks> RexKwonDo, what does the BIOS screen show
[05:36] <SD> anyone installed mysql on ubuntu lately?
[05:36] <nalioth> ITSa341: packages.ubuntu.com has ubuntu nvu packages
[05:36] <agent_bob> ITSa341 what error ?
[05:36] <NCLife> nanotube, i first changed them because everytime i copied some docs from a cd to the home folder they were with rx but not with w permissions and that bothered me, and yes.. ill read how to use things before to use them
[05:36] <nanotube> varsendagger: also might want to check out http://quanta.kdewebdev.org/
[05:36] <RexKwonDo> I haven't checked, blacks
[05:36] <RexKwonDo> I'll look
[05:36] <ITSa341> nalioth   any good readme for apt-get repair??
[05:37] <jbzz> SD:  I have a working MySQL.
[05:37] <earobinson> Anyone know how to recover a lost freeenode password?
[05:37] <eliasson> Hi, ive got a problem - ive just installed ubuntu. How can i regain root? I havent specifyed any password for that :/
[05:37] <nalioth> ITSa341: not too many times has apt-get been reported 'broken' what is it not doing correctly?
[05:37] <SD> jbzz: can u give me some quick pointers please? the links on mysql website are all abotu rpms
[05:38] <nanotube> eliasson: check this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo it is very comprehensive.
[05:38] <trojaavr> Can anyone help me; I need to install LimeWire, and the link that it shows in the guide for installing it, is down.
[05:38] <trojaavr> (the link to the actual LimeWire package)
[05:38] <ITSa341> ok  I woke up this morning and botted my laptop. It said 3 updates ready. I tried installing them and get this error message   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372
[05:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell trojaavr about limewire
[05:38] <nanotube> nclife: hm i see. afaik, that happens because the original file permissions on the cdrom are read only. nothing to do about that...
[05:38] <eliasson> nanotube: the thing is, i cant surf... im not sshing a server inside the network that has the right nameserver and routringtable and i cant change on this machine due lack of permission.
[05:38] <ITSa341> I tried apt-get clean and same error
[05:38] <jbzz> SD:  Hmmm ... well I had to fight with it a little.  I can check my downloads and report back in a minute or so.  I also have mysql-administrator and query-browser.
[05:39] <SD> thanks
[05:39] <nalioth> ITSa341: can you tell us the problem with your apt?
[05:39] <trojaavr> nalioth: Thanks.
[05:39] <tck> who was i talking to about fluxbox from here ?
[05:39] <eliasson> nanotube: can you please tell me what it says?
[05:39] <ITSa341> nalioth I can't install anything, same error no matter what package I try   http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372
[05:39] <nanotube> eliasson: i see heh sorry.
[05:39] <eliasson> :)
[05:39] <mcdenyer> how do i get into source.lits
[05:40] <ITSa341> I googled it, I searched the wiki
[05:40] <nanotube> eliasson: ok then, well, you use the command 'sudo' in order to execute stuff with root privileges
[05:40] <NCLife> nanotube: ooh of course, i didnt think that way
[05:40] <nalioth> ITSa341: rm the file it's erroring on
[05:40] <tck> mcdenyer: vi /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:40] <eliasson> nanotube: like 'sudo passwd'?
[05:40] <nalioth> ITSa341: or rename it
[05:40] <nanotube> eliasson: but when it asks you for password, enter your user password, not root password (whicth you have not set anyway)
[05:40] <nalioth> eliasson: ubuntu has no active root password for a reason
[05:40] <nanotube> eliasson: right. put sudo in front of anything
[05:40] <nanotube> eliasson: well, anything that needs it :)
[05:40] <eliasson> worked
[05:40] <eliasson> thx
[05:41] <ITSa341> nalioth  I did that, cleared the whole cache and tried again. same error no matter what package I try. Only thing that changes is the package name.
[05:41] <nalioth> eliasson: if you read the link that was sent to you, it will explain it (and show you how to enable the account, if you still wish to)
[05:41] <trojaavr> I can't seem to run runLime.sh ?
[05:41] <bimberi> ITSa341: unlikely, but it could be a bad copy of that package on the package mirror you're using - try downloading via http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[05:41] <jesse> hey
[05:41] <NCLife> nanotube: anyway, thanks a lot :)
[05:41] <jesse> can anyone help me with an audio problem?
[05:41] <nanotube> eliasson: cool, i'm glad it worked. like nalioth recommends, read that link when you have a chance. it explains the basic philosophy behind root and stuff for ubuntu.
[05:41] <DShepherd> trojaavr, is the file executable?
[05:41] <nanotube> nclife: no prob, glad i could help :)
[05:42] <ITSa341> bimberi  I have tried many packages including basic packages from ubuntu
[05:42] <mightyelectro> i was in here about 30 mins ago about trying to get grub off of my computer after deleteing ubuntu linux and i think it was vadar that told me to do recovery from my windows xp disc and do fixmbr but now i have anouther problem
[05:42] <trojaavr> DSheperd: I'm not completely sure what you mean? I just downloaded/opened the LimeWire package and was told to run runLime.sh it just won't let me.
[05:44] <agent_bob> 'sh runLime.sh '
[05:44] <bimberi> ITSa341: yes, but there might be a problem with that file itself so you could get one from another source via http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/devel/linux-headers-2.6.12-10
[05:44] <mightyelectro> now when i try to boot it say i need to reinstall hal.dll or it says it mite be missing
[05:44] <varsendagger> or chmod +x runLime.sh
[05:44] <DShepherd> trojaavr, right click -> properties, permissions and ensure that execute is checked
[05:44] <varsendagger> and then sh runLime.sh
[05:44] <jbzz> SD:  I am confusing myself ... it will take a minute or so.
[05:44] <SD> tell me about it, mysql is a world of pain ;)
[05:45] <RexKwonDo> blacks, my BIOS doesn't report the RAM at all, I think I may have a bad stick
[05:45] <ITSa341> bimberi  I tried that and also tried other files from many places. it's not every file I try, must be a problem with apt-get or dpkg.
[05:45] <SD> jbzz: you didnt just apt-get install mysql-server did you?
[05:45] <blacks> it could also be incorrectly inserted, some of the sticks/slots take quite a bt of force to get seated securely
[05:45] <RexKwonDo> oh, it did
[05:46] <bimberi> ITSa341: hm ok - or a problem with that file that's being replicated everywhere :/
[05:46] <RexKwonDo> almost scared me the way it popped in
[05:46] <jbzz> SD:  I believe not.  That is the problem.  I know I have the download here and I will find it and give you the exact name.
[05:47] <nanotube> jbzz, sd, i would have thought mysql-server would be in the repository... it does not work?
[05:47] <bimberi> RexKwonDo: my system monitor reports 504.0 MB.  I think the additional RAM is the kernel (or reserved by it)
[05:47] <ITSa341> bimberi   any file errors out, any package I try to install from simple mplayer to open office to anything including rar
[05:47] <mightyelectro> can any one help me on how to fix the file hal.dll that some how is not letting me boot windows
[05:47] <carlkof> hi
[05:47] <RexKwonDo> blacks, how would I check to see if my motherboard supports a half-gig stick?  maybe it doesn't
[05:48] <jbzz> SD:  Beats me.  I did what I had to do!!  I believe it was version 5.0.?   But it worked for me.
[05:48] <DShepherd> mightyelectro, :).. you know where you are?
[05:48] <blacks> check the mobo manufacturers site, or the printed manual if you have it
[05:48] <bimberi> ITSa341: yes, but the error is related to package linux-headers-2.6.12-10, so you need to get it successfully installed first
[05:48] <mightyelectro> yes
[05:48] <RexKwonDo> okay
[05:48] <RexKwonDo> thanks
[05:49] <trojaavr> Do I need to save the files from LimeWireOther.zip somewhere?
[05:49] <ITSa341> bimberi   no, the filename changes, the rest of the error message stays identical. package name is whatever I try to install.
[05:49] <ITSa341> same thing every time different file
[05:49] <jbzz> SD:  OK  I think I have it.  Let me type a little ...
[05:49] <bimberi> ITSa341: ah, my misunderstanding, erk :/
[05:49] <SD> jbzz, nanotube: it appears that it is in the repository after all..... i was trying to follow instructions from the mysql website. Thanks all for your help
[05:50] <agent_bob> now if i can just get some sound out of this thing,    errr that thing... actually.
[05:50] <ITSa341> bimberinp, should have explained clearer in the beginning.
[05:50] <nanotube> sd, hehe cool :).
[05:50] <bimberi> ITSa341: np :)
[05:50] <tck> anyone use fluxbox ?
[05:50] <SD> wow, im really really becoming enamoured with apt-get
[05:50] <blacks> get a room, SD
[05:50] <blacks> hehe
[05:51] <eliasson> W: GPG error: ftp://mirror.pudas.net testing Release: The following signatures c ouldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY F1D53D8C4 F368D5D NO_PUBKEY 010908312D230C5F
[05:51] <SD> haha
[05:51] <eliasson> W: You may want to run apt-get update to correct these problems
[05:51] <eliasson> what shall i do?
[05:51] <jbzz> SD:  mysql-standard-5.0.18-linux-i386-glib23    is the download I had from the MySQL website download.
[05:51] <mightyelectro> it all started when i was installing ubuntu linux 4.1 and then deleted it after it didnt work beside windows os and then a guy named vadar helped me to delete grub that wasnt letting me boot to windows because of an error 22 then wheni try to boot it says hal.dll needs to be reinstalled or some thing how can i reinstall it with out an os the only way i can use my computer is with this ubuntu live cd
[05:51] <eliasson> it appers when i do update.
[05:51] <SD> i cant believe  that mysql installation was so easy!
[05:51] <SD> jbzz: thanks
[05:51] <ITSa341> bimberi  It was fine last night, and this morning it said 3 updates ready when I booted it up. That's when this started
[05:52] <nanotube> sd: haha yea, apt-get rocks out. some packages are not the newest version and that can be a pain sometimes... but for the most part its great.
[05:52] <jbzz> SD:  Then I got the administrator and query-browser from the ubuntu site.  But they were versions:  1.1.4-2   as far as I can tell.
[05:52] <neiras> Hi there - I have a few machines that pull apt updates from the net. I'd like to set them up so that one machine does the pulling and caches the debs for the rest of the machines. Should I just use a caching proxy or is there an apt-specific way to do this?
[05:52] <_jason> mightyelectro: have you tried asking google?  because the first hit for 'hal.dll' has several ways of fixing that error
[05:52] <bimberi> ITSa341: yes, unfortunately i don't have any other thoughts atm :/
[05:52] <ITSa341> mightyelectro  boot with your windowsxp cd and use repair option
[05:52] <nanotube> oooh, neiras, that's a good question the answer to which i do not know myself, but i am looking forward to someone providing it.
[05:52] <jbzz> SD:  The later versions of the administrator and query browser had dependencies I could not fulfill.  So I gave up on the newest version of those.
[05:53] <mightyelectro> yes i have found the file hal.dll and have it right here but i have no way of opening it up and placing it in system 32 folder because im on ubuntu live cd ??
[05:53] <ITSa341> bimberi   been here almost all day trying to figure this out
[05:53] <neiras> nanotube - I'm thinking of just installing tinyproxy and pointing all the entries in sources.list to it, doing some munging that way
[05:53] <ITSa341> mightyelectro  boot with your windowsxp cd and use repair option
[05:53] <jbzz> SD:  What I do have work fine.  I have a number of stored proceedures that I made and have been using.
[05:53] <_jason> mightyelectro: no, you should read more links... here are two that look promising: http://www.kellys-korner-xp.com/xp_haldll_missing.htm http://pcsupport.about.com/od/pcrepair/a/missinghal_dll.htm
[05:54] <agent_bob> no AD1816A based soundcards found.
[05:54] <mightyelectro> and what do i chose when i do the recovery from the cd
[05:54] <agent_bob> that error on a modprobe for my card ^
[05:54] <mightyelectro> or what command
[05:54] <SD> jbzz: thanks, you've been very helpful
[05:54] <SD> bye all
[05:54] <jbzz> SD:  My pleasure.
[05:55] <ITSa341> mightyelectro   using the cdrom you can boot to a windows command prompt and replace the file but look at those links they may show you an easy way
[05:55] <nanotube> eliasson: i have no clue, but have you tried google?
[05:55] <PuMpErNiCkLe> neiras: Check out apt-proxy - I haven't used it, but it looks like it might be what you're looking for.
[05:55] <agent_bob> it is an ad1816 card and it does work under (that other os).    so what should i try now ?
[05:55] <nanotube> neiras: sounds as good as anything to me, but i am really no expert on apt-get. :)
[05:55] <cappicard> hmm... has anyone received "unable to access X display" when trying to login from gdm?
[05:56] <agent_bob> FATAL: Error running install command for snd_ad1816a    ?
[05:56] <jbzz> SD:  One more thing ... if you download from MySQL and untar it read the files that are RAEDME or INSTALL or whatever.  They have specific steps to set it up.
[05:57] <spine> why cant my ubuntu "make" anything?
[05:57] <nanotube> jbzz: dude, sd left already...
[05:57] <nanotube> spine: is make even installed?
[05:57] <_jason> spine: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:57] <spine> i get gcc erros
[05:57] <agent_bob> _jason beet me to it.
[05:57] <eliasson> ecking for gcc... gcc
[05:57] <eliasson> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:58] <eliasson> Why do i get that?
[05:58] <jbzz> nanotube:  Thanks.
[05:58] <spine> error two, specifically
[05:58] <bimberi> spine: gcc and make aren't installed by default - build-essential
[05:58] <_jason> eliasson: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[05:58] <agent_bob> !b-e
[05:58] <ubotu> from memory, b-e is no make ?  you need build-essential or if you get errors saying gcc cannot create executables, or that you can't find header files like stdio.h, you need to do a    sudo apt-get install build-essential.
[05:58] <trojaavr> What does it mean when the terminal responds 'cp: omitting directory'?
[05:58] <eliasson> _jason: thx dude
[05:58] <spine> thx to all
[05:58] <draconius> trojaavr: it means that you didnt specify the -R flag
[05:58] <_jason> trojaavr: cp copies files, so it will omit directories.  Try 'cp -r', read the man page
[05:59] <trojaavr> Thanks.
[05:59] <bnD> _jason, that was the closest to a RTFM ive seen in here lol, this channel is so nice
[06:00] <draconius> heh
[06:00] <eliasson> anyone know what libmad is? trying to install vlc.
[06:00] <eliasson> is that really nessesary?
[06:00] <neiras> Yeah, apt-proxy looks great, thanks PuMpErNiCkLe
[06:00] <_jason> bnD: if I idle here for a long time I start feeling like yelling RTFM, cus you forget it's different people asking the same question... so I try not to stay here for long continuous periods of time :)
[06:01] <agent_bob> eliasson yep
[06:01] <_jason> eliasson: let's you play mp3's
[06:01] <eliasson> agent_bob: for?
[06:01] <eliasson> aha.
[06:01] <eliasson> but i play mp3 with xmms
[06:01] <_jason> lets even
[06:01] <agent_bob> eliasson it's in main on the network  but not on the install cd.
[06:01] <_jason> eliasson: I think xmms has got its own thing going on
[06:01] <bnD> _jason, lol
[06:02] <ifwui45> hey how do I set up wireless?
[06:02] <agent_bob> !wifi
[06:02] <ubotu> wifi is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:02] <eliasson> agent_bob: what do you mean?
[06:02] <eliasson> hecking for ffmpeg/avcodec.h... no
[06:02] <eliasson> configure: error: Missing header file ffmpeg/avcodec.h.
[06:02] <eliasson> wtf! :|
[06:03] <_jason> eliasson: what are you compiling?  vlc?
[06:03] <eliasson> configuring atm
[06:03] <agent_bob> why
[06:03] <agent_bob> it's in the repos
[06:03] <_jason> eliasson: you aren't satisfied with the vlc in the repos?
[06:03] <agent_bob> apt-get it
[06:03] <eliasson> root@jenny:~/vlc-0.8.4a# apt-get install vlc
[06:03] <eliasson> Reading package lists... Done
[06:03] <eliasson> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:03] <eliasson> E: Couldn't find package vlc
[06:03] <nanotube> eliasson: package is called wxvlc
[06:03] <eliasson> ot@jenny:~/vlc-0.8.4a# cat /etc/apt/sources.list | grep videolan
[06:03] <eliasson> deb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[06:03] <eliasson> deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[06:03] <eliasson> aha
[06:03] <_jason> !info vlc
[06:03] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:04] <eliasson> root@jenny:~/vlc-0.8.4a# apt-get install wxvlc
[06:04] <eliasson> Reading package lists... Done
[06:04] <eliasson> Building dependency tree... Done
[06:04] <eliasson> E: Couldn't find package wxvlc
[06:04] <eliasson> :(
[06:04] <_jason> eliasson: ok please stop pasting
[06:04] <eliasson> oh, sorry dude
[06:04] <nanotube> did you enable universe/multiverse repositories?
[06:04] <agent_bob> !info vlc
[06:04] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:04] <_jason> eliasson: it is in universe, get rid of those debian sarge lines, you are asking for trouble with them
[06:04] <eliasson> nanotube: i dont think so - i tok the rows from the site.
[06:04] <_jason> ubotu: tell eliasson about repos
[06:05] <karsten> Is there a list of universe/multiverse packages, searchable, online or such?
[06:05] <_jason> karsten: packages.ubuntu.com
[06:05] <nanotube> eliasson: if you open up synaptic, you can click settings> repositories
[06:05] <nanotube> eliasson: and through there enable universe nad multiverse
[06:05] <agent_bob> karsten if you enable the repos  you can search local with  'apt-cache search <name> '
[06:05] <nanotube> eliasson: that's the easiest way, and you dont have to screw around editing your sources.list file
[06:06] <neiras> Is there a terminal command to make suggestions for packaging improvements to a package maintainer?
[06:06] <karsten> agent_bob: Danke.
[06:06] <karsten> agent_bob: Not running Ubuntu, researching a question.
[06:06] <agent_bob> si
[06:06] <karsten> agent_bob: Is Xen in any Ubuntu repos yet?  I know it's not official.
[06:06] <karsten> _jason: Danke.
[06:06] <cafuego> karsten: Nope. (hi)
[06:06] <karsten> cafuego: Hola ;-)
[06:06] <eliasson> nanotube: shall i edit the vlc server in the app?
[06:06] <cafuego> karsten: See also !find xen
[06:07] <agent_bob> karsten if your nick is regestered  use /msg ubotu find <name>
[06:07] <eliasson> Selections: main
[06:07] <eliasson> in says. :)
[06:07] <eliasson> Distrubtions: sarge
[06:07] <cafuego> agent_bob: You don't need to be registered anymore these days.
[06:07] <karsten> agent_bob: Danke.  Bots are getting smarter.
[06:07] <agent_bob> cafuego :)
[06:07] <cafuego> karsten: ubotu is a dpkg clone, but with ubuntu repos.
[06:07] <juanma> hello
[06:07] <karsten> cafuego: Dig.
[06:08] <agent_bob> cafuego got a minute to trubble shoot    'no sound' ?
[06:08] <karsten> Thanks all.
[06:08] <slavik> what version of Xorg does badger come with?
[06:08] <cafuego> agent_bob: Check if driver loaded, check if correct card selected in Sound control panel, check if volume is muted.
[06:08] <cafuego> slavik: 6.8
[06:08] <slavik> thanks
[06:08] <cafuego> !info xserver-xorg
[06:08] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[06:08] <agent_bob> cafuego   e   FATAL: Error running install command for snd_ad1816a
[06:08] <nanotube> eliasson: what you mean about editing vlc server?
[06:08] <slavik> here's an interesting "thing" ... badger freezes my system when being ran inside of VMware ...
[06:09] <agent_bob> from modprobe
[06:09] <slavik> would anyone care for that anomoly?
[06:09] <eliasson> nanotube: i dont know what to edit in the synapse thing.
[06:09] <cafuego> agent_bob: rgrep ad1816 /etc/modprobe.d
[06:09] <cafuego> slavik: I only run it the other way around, so can't help you there...
[06:09] <eliasson> eb http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[06:09] <eliasson> deb-src http://download.videolan.org/pub/videolan/debian sarge main
[06:09] <eliasson> what shall i have insted nanotube
[06:09] <agent_bob>  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:install snd-ad1816a modprobe --ignore-install snd-ad1816a && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-ad1816a
[06:09] <nanotube> eliasson: ok, so open up synaptic, ok?
[06:09] <Bone_Down> quick question how does one go about registering a nickname?
[06:10] <eliasson> yes, ive dont.
[06:10] <slavik> cafuego: I was only using it to test out ubuntu ... don't really care much, heh
[06:10] <nanotube> click the settings menu, and select repositories, ok?
[06:10] <slavik> bone, google for nickserv
[06:10] <eliasson> ye
[06:10] <nanotube> do you see a list of stuff in there?
[06:10] <cafuego> slavik: Mebbe boot without acpi support, see how you go.
[06:10] <Bone_Down> slavik thanks
[06:10] <eliasson> nanotube: yes, there is my apt-sources.
[06:10] <nanotube> eliasson: there should also be an "add" button
[06:10] <nanotube> eliasson: see it?
[06:10] <slavik> cafuego: press escape during boot?
[06:10] <eliasson> yes :P
[06:11] <agent_bob> cafuego  not sure you saw the reply...  /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base:install snd-ad1816a modprobe --ignore-install snd-ad1816a && /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-ad1816a
[06:11] <slavik> bone, try going to #support or #help
[06:11] <nanotube> eliasson: cool. so click it, and you will get a window, and there will be some checkboxes, among which are two unchecked boxes: universe, and multiverse. check them, say ok.
[06:11] <cafuego> slavik: No, you need a special option at the boot prompt. Check F1 through F8 help screens there.
[06:12] <nanotube> eliasson: then click the "reload" button, and you should have the package info for universe and multiverse. now, you can search for wxvlc, and should find it.
[06:12] <eliasson> thx
[06:12] <cafuego> agent_bob: yeah. can you run 'sudo /lib/alsa/modprobe-post-install snd-ad1816a' ?
[06:12] <gerald-volt> anyone know of a good 3d cad software for linux
[06:12] <slavik> cafuego: do you know anything on the ati driver? (is it worth getting over whatever xorg/ubuntu comes with)
[06:12] <slavik> also, is there an admin password? or is it simply the user password?
[06:12] <dbernar1> why do I not see a buddy when he logs into my computer through ssh?
[06:12] <cafuego> slavik: inside vmware it won't use the ati driver regardless.
[06:13] <slavik> cafuego: I know, it was more general
[06:13] <slavik> cafuego: I am getting a laptop with ati xpress 200m :)
[06:13] <cafuego> slavik: Depending on how new the card is, either radeon or fglrx.
[06:13] <nanotube> cafuego: do you know about cpu frequency throttling on laptops? can i ask you a question. i asked earlier but nobody could help...
[06:13] <agent_bob> cafuego ah ha  'run-parts: failed to open directory /etc/alsa/modprobe-post-install.d: No such file or directory'
[06:13] <PuMpErNiCkLe> dbernar1: running the 'w' command doesn't show him?
[06:13] <cafuego> nanotube: install powernowd and that should automate it.
[06:14] <cafuego> agent_bob: Ok. Just comment out that whole line in /etc/modprobe.d/alsa-base
[06:14] <cafuego> agent_bob: OR create /etc/alsa/modprobe-post-install.d :-)
[06:14] <dbernar1> PuMpErNiCkLe: no, not at all, neither does who, nor users. ps aux shows his logged in process.
[06:14] <dbernar1> even with sudo I do not see him.
[06:14] <nanotube> cafuego: powernowd is installed, and it is automated. problem is, it only sees two freq levels for the cpu, 3 ghz, and 1.6 ghz. but under win, more freq levels are possible...
[06:14] <agent_bob> k  which would go for ?
[06:14] <ITSa341> The problem is in dpkg   I can't even install files I download from http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/libs/
[06:15] <slavik> nanotube: athlonxp?
[06:15] <agent_bob> i'll try the first   'being the easiest.
[06:15] <cafuego> nanotube: Ive' sene that ebfore with someone. Turns out the windows utility was lying. What cpu you got?
[06:15] <psusi> nanotube, then most likely, your bios is broken, and the windows "chipset drivers" you installed corrected for that
[06:15] <nanotube> gerald-volt: try blender, and qcad?
[06:15] <slavik> if he says "powernow" then most likely an athlonxp
[06:15] <cafuego> agent_bob: Well, 'sudo mkdir /etc/alsa/modprobe-post-install.d' isn't hard ;-)
[06:15] <brenner> slavik: i have the exact same card.  you need to use the ati drivers rather than the fglrx ones in the repo to get DRI up and running
[06:16] <gerald-volt> blender is more of a 3d render software, and qcad seems to only do 2d stuff
[06:16] <cafuego> slavik: powernow is also used in intel cips
[06:16] <slavik> nanotube: get WCPUID or CPUz
[06:16] <psusi> slavik, powernowd applies to non amd processors
[06:16] <nanotube> slavik: no, its a mobile p4, on a dell inspiron
[06:16] <cafuego> slavik: the userspace linux daemon, that is.
[06:16] <gerald-volt> varicad seems to be the best one out there
[06:16] <slavik> wait ... hold up ... didn'
[06:16] <gerald-volt> but ehy don't seem to have a package for ubuntu
[06:16] <slavik> didn't the athlonxp line have powernow?
[06:16] <nanotube> cafuego: its a mobile p4 on a dell inspiron 5150
[06:16] <ITSa341> anyone willing to try to help me fix dpkg ??
[06:16] <pinpoint> bnD, you around
[06:16] <cafuego> nanotube: They do.
[06:16] <slavik> isn't p4 "speedstep"?
[06:16] <cafuego> nanotube: Don't confuse 'powernow' with 'powernowd'.
[06:16] <pinpoint> i just installed 5.10 and nothing is launching except for firefox
[06:17] <pinpoint> update manager wont run
[06:17] <cafuego> powernowd ALSO implements speedstep. And cool-n-quiet.
[06:17] <nanotube> cafuego: powernowd is running (its in my ps ax list)
[06:17] <psusi> slavik, yes, and that's what powernowd was originally created for... but it applies to any and all systems that support cpufreq in the kernel, which includes intel and their "speedstep"
[06:17] <pansonic> how do i get totem to play wmv?
[06:17] <nanotube> psusi: i do recall having to install updated chipset drivers under win... maybe that's it... but i was hoping there was a workaround :)
[06:17] <_jason> ubotu: tell pansonic about w32codecs
[06:17] <pansonic> thanks
[06:17] <cafuego> nanotube: Most likely the BIOS is borked and only the windows drivers implement fixes.
[06:17] <agent_bob> cafuego well it changed the error message 'FATAL: Error inserting snd_ad1816a (/lib/modules/2.6.10-5-386/kernel/sound/isa/ad1816a/snd-ad1816a.ko): No such device '
[06:18] <Plazma> !ubotu tell _jason about beer
[06:18] <cafuego> agent_bob: isa. Joy.
[06:18] <nanotube> cafuego: i was using "speedswitchxp" app with win, that was doing some improved cpu throttling...
[06:18] <bob832> where can one find info about dapper such as features, improvements, etc.?
[06:18] <_jason> thank you Plazma
[06:18] <Plazma> anytime, just looking out :d
[06:18] <slavik> yes, but AMD made "powernow"
[06:18] <nanotube> slavik: wouldnt wcpuid or cpuz just identify my cpu? iirc, they dont do any actual managing of the cpu...
[06:18] <ITSa341> nanotube  speedswitchxp works great
[06:19] <slavik> nanotube: they also tell you the cpu frequency :)
[06:19] <nanotube> itsa341: yea it does indeed:) but its just for win, aint it?
[06:19] <cafuego> nanotube: I would also not be surproised if the cpu only has 2 power states and the utility is lying.
[06:19] <slavik> although I doubt they would work properly under *nix
[06:19] <aent> hey, how do you get nautilus to regenerate the thumbnails of a folder? I want thumbnails of all of my pictures and the minimum filesize was too small, now it won't generate thumbnails for any of them
[06:19] <agent_bob> cafuego any way to test for different irq's there ?   maybe ?
[06:19] <nanotube> slavik: well yea, but i have my cpu frequency gnome applet telling me that, too :)
[06:19] <ITSa341> nanotubes I know yes
[06:19] <bnD> pinpoint, whats up?
[06:19] <cafuego> agent_bob: Using 'pnpdump' and 'isapnp'. But that does bring pain.
[06:19] <brenner> aent: refresh?
[06:19] <slavik> nanotube: I was suggesting those in order to check cafuego's statement if the power utility in winxp was lying :)
[06:20] <pinpoint> i just installed 5.10 and nothing is launching except for firefox
[06:20] <pinpoint> update manager wont run
[06:20] <bnD> hrm
[06:20] <ITSa341> anyone willing to try to help me repair my dpkg?
[06:20] <slavik> woah, that's weird
[06:20] <slavik> pinpoint: can you get a terminal window open?
[06:20] <aent> brenner: it saves what it attempts to do, so it doesn't try to do it then... it will only generate it for newly copied images into the folder
[06:20] <agent_bob> cafuego ok,  well "thanks a lot for what little you did."  :)
[06:20] <slavik> ITSa341: I'd help ... if I knew how. :)
[06:20] <nanotube> slavik, cafuego: hmm, i suppose it could be lying... :) but i am not about to reboot into win and find out. too much stuff opened up right now. :) but i will keep in mind and check later.
[06:21] <pinpoint> yes
[06:21] <ITSa341> slavic  sorry, I guess I worded that wrong   but thanks anyway
[06:21] <agent_bob> i'll go play with 'pnpdump' and 'isapnp'  for a bit.  and then give up.
[06:21] <cafuego> agent_bob: Does the machine have a free pci slot?
[06:21] <bnD> pinpoint, the command used to install, did you pick it for a certain reason?
[06:21] <bnD> pinpoint, the flags i mean..
[06:21] <agent_bob> mmmm yes
[06:21] <slavik> pinpoint, run apt-get upgrade (is that right?) from a terminal window
[06:21] <cafuego> agent_bob: sblives are REALLY cheap ;-)
[06:21] <pinpoint> no it was the only one that fit my lappy
[06:22] <jason> hey guys, i've been notificing some instabilities with gnome after my initial ubuntu install, windows randomly disappear (mostly firefox), applications crash unexpectedly, and now when I choose to minimize an app it disappears rather than minimizing to the bottom taskbar, the only object on it is the trash can, any suggestions?
[06:22] <ITSa341> I really hate the idea of re-installing ubuntu and having to go through all those updates again
[06:22] <bnD> pinpoint, fit your lappy in what sense?
[06:22] <monzie> what packages do i need to compile my own kernel in Ubuntu?
[06:22] <agent_bob> cafuego :)
[06:22] <bnD> ITSa341, i can get a complete ubuntu install in <20 minutes ;l
[06:22] <pinpoint> the others in the list where talkin about different scenarios
[06:22] <cafuego> monzie: build-essential, dpkg-dev, kernel-package, gcc-3.4
[06:22] <slavik> gcc and make at the very least
[06:22] <bnD> pinpoint, did you use the default or did you add flags?
[06:23] <agent_bob> bnD takes hours here
[06:23] <cafuego> And oh, libncurses5-dev would be handy too.
[06:23] <slavik> cafuego: does ubuntu come with ndiswrapper?
[06:23] <bnD> agent_bob, eek
[06:23] <cafuego> slavik: Yes.
[06:23] <agent_bob> bnD takes hours here  for server
[06:23] <neiras> woohoo, there's a xeon kernel with smp
[06:23] <ITSa341> bnD  ya, but with my internet connection it's the rest of the downloads and apt-get installs that take days  :-(
[06:23] <frazmanw> rts of gtk 2 engins etc. what do I need exactly?
[06:23] <pinpoint> used. linux debian-install/framebuffer = false
[06:23] <bnD> ITSa341, i see
[06:23] <bnD> pinpoint, why did you turn off framebuffer?
[06:23] <frazmanw> GTK+ 2.0 is required to build Gaim; please make sure you have the GTK+
[06:23] <frazmanw> *** development headers installed. The latest version of GTK+ is
[06:23] <pinpoint> dont know :(
[06:23] <cafuego> frazmanw: -dev packages.
[06:23] <bnD> pinpoint, only thing i can recommend is going it without the framebuffer false flag
[06:23] <bnD> pinpoint, good luck ;)
[06:24] <pinpoint> so no framebuffer option
[06:24] <agent_bob> frame buffering moves the screen off center to the right on all the systems if tried it on.
[06:24] <bnD> Seveas, do you know the default install command for the ubuntu live/install dvd ?
[06:24] <jason> applications disppear when i choose minimize, any ideas for getting my bottom taskbar to work again
[06:24] <pinpoint> just install
[06:24] <pinpoint> :)
[06:24] <frazmanw> cafuego, I don't see any gtk stuff that says -dev??
[06:24] <bnD> pinpoint, use w/e the default is :)
[06:25] <cafuego> frazmanw: Not looking, then.
[06:25] <eliasson> nanotube: hmm, one question. The sound works on XMMS but not on VLC. VLC uses /dev/dsp, how do i know what i shall use insted?
[06:25] <nanotube> eliasson: aha! i was just working on that yesterday :)
[06:25] <slavik> poor cafuego, being torn apart by a ton of people for help ... :)
[06:25] <durt> are the restricted modules available in a package for kernel 2.6.15-13-386?
[06:25] <cafuego> slavik: It's okay, I'm about to walk out the door for drinking at a brewery.
[06:26] <slavik> don'
[06:26] <slavik> don't get too drunk :)
[06:26] <eliasson> nanotube: did you solve it?
[06:26] <cafuego> slavik: No, did that last night...
[06:26] <nanotube> eliasson: let it to use ALSA, just make sure it doest use /dev/dsp. check out my ubuntu chronicles page at http://pykeylogger.sourceforge.net/wiki/index.php/Ubuntu:Chronicles (the sound problems section)
[06:26] <slavik> cafuego: another question ... where can I see a page that teaches about system maintanence on ubuntu?
[06:27] <slavik> like which config file has the shell to use, or where $PATH is set, etc.
[06:27] <bnD> durt, i see 2.6.12.16
[06:27] <bimberi> frazmanw: libgtk2.0-dev
[06:27] <cafuego> slavik: Should all be in the Help menu already.
[06:27] <eliasson> i get an error when i use /dev/dsp
[06:27] <slavik> ty
[06:27] <sethk> slavik, man bash, for the bash shell
[06:27] <MacSlow> re
[06:27] <cafuego> slavik: Oh. Maybe Linux basics... not sure if there's a package.
[06:27] <sethk> Slackwise, there are other shells, but bash is the default
[06:27] <sethk> Slackwise, sorry, completion error
[06:27] <eliasson> worked now
[06:27] <sethk> slavik, there are other shells but bash is the default.
[06:27] <slavik> sethk: I was thinking of replacing bash with korn93 as the default shell.
[06:27] <nanotube> eliasson: yea, dont use the sound device directly. that's what alsa and esd sound daemons are for.
[06:27] <nanotube> eliasson: cool :)
[06:27] <cafuego> slavik: I find using 'grep' in /etc/ tends to be useful. THough for a shell, run 'chsh' or try the user admin tool in the System menu.
[06:27] <sethk> slavik, I use zsh.  It is a truly excellent shell
[06:28] <sethk> slavik, and also has much much better korn shell compatibility than bash
[06:28] <frazmanw> bimberi, thank you. didn't come up in gtk search, got it now
[06:28] <sethk> slavik, especially if you run it in korn shell compatible mode
[06:28] <slavik> sethk: korn shell is the most compatible :)
[06:28] <mcdenyer> bnD, u there/.
[06:28] <monzie> thanks cafuego
[06:28] <bnD> mcdenyer, yea, whats up?
[06:28] <mcdenyer> bnd hey
[06:28] <bnD> mcdenyer, yea
[06:28] <monzie> anyone here who use icewm or fluxbox?
[06:28] <mcdenyer> bnd give me your source list :)
[06:28] <bnD> monzie, i use fluxbox
[06:28] <mcdenyer> bnd i cant get the plugin
[06:28] <sethk> slavik, well, you might think so ... but, seriously, zsh is more compatible with the most common versions of ksh than the most recent ksh is.  strange but true.
[06:29] <monzie> which is better icewm or fluxbox bnD ?
[06:29] <slavik> actually, I'll just install korn but not switch to it ...
[06:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, did you make a new sources.list from that site?
[06:29] <bnD> monzie, thats a matter of opinion
[06:29] <mcdenyer> bnd i made my own and disabled the backports
[06:29] <mcdenyer> yes
[06:29] <mcdenyer> bnd brb
[06:29] <bnD> mcdenyer, dont diable the backports..
[06:29] <cafuego> Install 'rc' if you want a shell for MEN.
[06:29] <neiras> excellent, apt-proxy works perfectly
[06:29] <mae> what ports does bind need to use for slave/master mode?
[06:29] <neiras> that'll save me some bandwidth
[06:29] <mae> bind9 rather
[06:29] <michael> what can I use, other than VNC to remote desktop into linux from windows
[06:29] <bluefoxicy> !encode
[06:29] <ubotu> bluefoxicy: What?
[06:29] <slavik> is there a tool/way to download themes from gnomelook.org and install them?
[06:29] <bnD> monzie, if youre going for very light use flux if youre going for light but still fairly pretty xfce , i personally use fluxbox
[06:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell slavik about themes
[06:29] <nanotube> neiras: that's cool.
[06:30] <bluefoxicy> ubotu:  I  have a bunch of WAV files I want to mass-convert to mp3, flac, ogg vorbis.
[06:30] <pinpoint> what do i put for hostname?
[06:30] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, bluefoxicy
[06:30] <pinpoint> im just curious
[06:30] <bnD> pinpoint, just name your box what you want
[06:30] <neiras> nanotube: dead easy to set up
[06:30] <bluefoxicy> ubotu:  fuck you
[06:30] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, bluefoxicy
[06:30] <bnD> pinpoint, you @ host
[06:30] <monzie> i want the coolest looking configurable desktop possible
[06:30] <slavik> jason, sweet, thanks
[06:30] <bluefoxicy> anyway.
[06:30] <neiras> monzie - use gnome :)
[06:30] <slavik> wow, this channel is even more helpful than ##java ^^
[06:30] <bnD> neiras, thats hardly a 'light' wm :P
[06:30] <_jason> bluefoxicy: do you realize ubotu is a bot?
[06:30] <slavik> any theme recomendations?
[06:30] <sethk> bnD, you can make the background color a very pale blue   :)
[06:31] <neiras> light is overrated when you want to do work with your computer, rather than tweak theme files
[06:31] <monzie> gnome's not configurable enough neiras
[06:31] <nanotube> neiras: i will keep it in mind for when i have more than one ubuntu machine up here. :) so far, the only one is my laptop.
[06:31] <robotgeek> bluefoxicy: please mind your language
[06:31] <bnD> sethk, :)
[06:31] <bluefoxicy> _jason:  yes, a useless one right now.
[06:31] <pinpoint> bnD, then its going to tell me to edit /etc/hosts when i put
[06:31] <pinpoint> some lousy error
[06:31] <monzie> can't do cool MacOS X like stuff
[06:31] <bnD> neiras, i do everything just fine in fluxbox and with <700mb on disk
[06:31] <slavik> monzie: that's what I actually wanted
[06:31] <monzie> how do i get the MacOSX-like doc?
[06:31] <bnD> pinpoint, just put in a word for host 'home' 'comp' whatever
[06:31] <neiras> monzie - that's because X is only just allowing for "MacOS like stuff" GNOME is the most Mac-like of the major desktop environments
[06:31] <monzie> i run GNOME
[06:31] <slavik> it shouldn't be a very difficult of a fork ...
[06:31] <timfrost> mae, bind talks TO port 53 (TCP and UDP).  BIND9 uses high source port. Older servers used a source port of 53.
[06:32] <sethk> monzie, run osx  :)
[06:32] <monzie> the dock neiras , i need the dock,
[06:32] <monzie> how do i get it?
[06:32] <monzie> gdesklets sucks
[06:32] <ITSa341> how do I repair or reinstall dpkg??
[06:32] <slavik> sethk: very soon, we might ;)
[06:32] <neiras> monzie - try the gdesklets dock thingy - or use a clone of the Dock that apple based theirs on - gnustep!
[06:32] <slavik> ITSa341: have you tried apt-get remove or somesuch?
[06:32] <neiras> I love gnustep
[06:32] <monzie> os x doesnt use apt sethk , and it aint linux, otherwise
[06:32] <ITSa341> slavic    yup
[06:32] <slavik> I think apple should release the code for the GUI ...
[06:32] <slavik> ITSa341: nothing?
[06:32] <monzie> gnustep?
[06:33] <bnD> ITSa341, did you try sudo apt-get check ?
[06:33] <sethk> monzie, I know that.  but if what you want is the osx interface, then run osx.  It's usually a bad idea to try to make one desktop behave like another
[06:33] <neiras> monzie - Gnustep is a clone of NextStep, which is what apple based OSX on
[06:33] <ITSa341> nope, at least I did figure out it is in pdkg now apt-get   same error when trying to install packages locally
[06:33] <neiras> the APIs are even 99% compatible with apples'
[06:33] <slavik> isn't OSX based on FreeBSD?
[06:33] <neiras> check oout this development flash demo - incredible
[06:33] <ITSa341> bnD  yup
[06:33] <neiras> http://www.gnustep.org/experience/DevelopmentDemonstration.html
[06:33] <sethk> slavik, built on top of freebsd, but not based on it exactly
[06:34] <monzie> ok neiras.,
[06:34] <mae> timfrost: i'm asking because i enabled 53, however master/slave propagation is broken
[06:34] <neiras> OSX is BSD with a Mach microkernel
[06:34] <neiras> I was talking about the higher-level APIs
[06:34] <mae> timfrost: normal queries work, however
[06:34] <bluefoxicy> so
[06:34] <monzie> nerias, sethk : i want my desktop to look like this http://gentoo-wiki.com/Image:Flux.jpg
[06:34] <bluefoxicy> there's no way to mass-encode a lot of stuff is there
[06:34] <monzie> and that is linux, not os x
[06:34] <timfrost> mae, what errors in the logs?
[06:35] <mae> timfrost: no errors - it says its sending updates but the slave server isn't receiving them
[06:35] <mae> and it worked before i setup iptables
[06:35] <neiras> mozie - all that crap on the desktop is gdesklet stuff
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> the CPU usage on that screen is through the roof
[06:35] <timfrost> mae, have you permitted TCP source=53 to dest=53?
[06:35] <bluefoxicy> from all the desklets
[06:35] <neiras> gdesklets are horrible
[06:35] <michael> what can I use, other than VNC to remote desktop into linux from windows
[06:36] <mae> timfrost: yes
[06:36] <bimberi> michael: freenx
[06:36] <monzie> i agree neiras
[06:36] <bimberi> ubotu tell michael about freenx
[06:36] <monzie> is there no stand-alone dock for linux?
[06:36] <michael> ty
[06:36] <neiras> I can hardly wait for the new X.org acceleration and compositing stuff to come through
[06:36] <LINUXisTEHsuk> michael openssh
[06:36] <mae> timfrost: 53 is all it needs?
[06:36] <bimberi> michael: yw :)
[06:36] <Keyseir> I'm running a Windows2000Pro emulation on breezy using VMware player. The resolution is too small and the window is too small, does anyone here have experience setting up VMware on breezy?
[06:36] <timfrost> mae, what firewall are you running?  Does it shoe traffic to the slave (or from the slave) being blocked?
[06:37] <monzie> that would be nice neiras , but GNOME is going too much into the usabiliy thing
[06:37] <cafuego> Keyseir: You need to install vmware tools in Win2K and then change the resolution.
[06:37] <monzie> and doing away with much of the configurability
[06:37] <mae> timfrost: shorewall
[06:37] <ITSa341> Keyseir I did that with XP Home
[06:37] <Keyseir> cafuego: Is there a guide or can you point me in the direction of how to do that?
[06:37] <LINUXisTEHsuk> flux ++
[06:37] <shredhead15> hey does anyone know how to get a ps/2 mouse working on ubuntu
[06:37] <neiras> No such thing as "too much usability", monzie - usability does not mean "crippled"
[06:37] <cafuego> Keyseir: I'm fairly sure you can't do it in the player version.
[06:38] <Keyseir> ITSa341 How do you do that?
[06:38] <Keyseir> cafuego: That's good, I just need to know how to begin setting up the tools
[06:38] <bnD> shredhead15, try going to a terminal and typing sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg it should find it
[06:38] <monzie> but look at GNOME 2.12 , it is less configurable than 1.x!
[06:38] <neiras> monzie - check these (old) videos - this is where gnome visuals could go: http://www.gnome.org/~seth/blog/xshots
[06:38] <mae> timfrost: thas the weird thing i don't see any drops in the log .
[06:38] <ITSa341> Keyseir  I meant I ran WinXP home   I had no problems with resolutions so I can't help ya there
[06:38] <_jason> monzie: what do you use day to day?
[06:38] <cafuego> Keyseir: In vmware, you select "Install VMware Tools" from the vmware/vm menu. that'll mount an iso and bein installation.
[06:38] <monzie> i use xfce _jason
[06:39] <LINUXisTEHsuk> prolly pico
[06:39] <neiras> monzie - it's not less configurable - it's just that the settings that most people need are the only ones directly presented to the user - that's a good thing.
[06:39] <timfrost> mae, if the slave runs BIND8 or 9, the slave will connect to the master on TCP 53, with a source port which may be either 53 or a high port.
[06:39] <monzie> sometimes enlightenment
[06:39] <LINUXisTEHsuk> a little better =p
[06:39] <bnD> monzie, youre a gnome dev and you use xfce and enlightenment? i love that ;)
[06:39] <neiras> anything more advanced , use configuration editor
[06:39] <Keyseir> ITSa341 ah, so you loaded winxp home with vmware player and the window was larger then a fourth of your screen?
[06:39] <cafuego> monzie: Yes, the lack of irritating sliders, knobs and buttons (unlike KDE) is great in Gnome.
[06:39] <neiras> monzie, what gnome stuff do you work on?
[06:39] <bnD> both gnome and kde are wonderful for first time linux users however
[06:39] <monzie> yes bnD , half my patches are not accepted due to the "usability thing"
[06:40] <bnD> monzie, i see, ouch
[06:40] <neiras> bnD - I can't argue with that - they are just very different in terms of their goals
[06:40] <ITSa341> Keyseir  window was fine and I'm running an eMachine laptop 15in widescreen
[06:40] <slavik> neiras: Linus doesn't like Gnome and prefers KDE.
[06:40] <stevenj> lastest dapper update killed nividia...any suggestions?
[06:40] <monzie> i work primarily on Nautilus and yelp
[06:40] <monzie> yup bnD
[06:40] <cafuego> slavik: Linus has children. People who choose to breed aren't allowed opinions.
[06:40] <bnD> cafuego, rofl
[06:40] <monzie> a question for you neiras :
[06:40] <Keyseir> ITSa341 Perhaps the bug doesn't exist with XP...
[06:40] <ITSa341> I tried it and it was cool but I then removed it as it violated my no MS rule on this laptop
[06:40] <LINUXisTEHsuk> hrm.
[06:40] <neiras> slavik - I know, but linus is also a bit of a jerk. A lot of people don't agree with his opinions.
[06:41] <cafuego> stevenj: Don't use dapper unless you can fix stuff like that by yourself?
[06:41] <monzie> who gets to decide what "normal users" want?
[06:41] <Seveas> argh
[06:41] <shredhead15> hey  whoever just typed that cammand could you to it again pleas   i dont have a mouse so i cant scroll up sorry
[06:41] <Seveas> stop that stupid discussion...
[06:41] <neiras> monzie - it's called "usability testing"
[06:41] <cafuego> Seveas: welcome
[06:41] <slavik> Bill Gates is a jerk ... :)
[06:41] <Seveas> gnome vs kde -> /dev/null
[06:41] <monzie> it shouldn't be the developers.. cause they are not ordinary users anyways
[06:41] <spine> i have a problem with totem-xine and firefox, i have the plugin but the video in firefox always freezes up, i had to resort to the mediaplayerconectivity extension for firefox so i can lauch my vids on the program itself, can anyone help?
[06:41] <bnD> heh
[06:41] <monzie> yes Slavik
[06:41] <Keyseir> cafuego, that option will appear if I put the vmware tools ISO in the vmware directory?
[06:41] <LINUXisTEHsuk> yeah, what about emacs vs vi any damn way?
[06:41] <slavik> Seveas: /dev/trash owns you!!!
[06:41] <timfrost> mae, can you do 'dig +vc axfr <zone> @master ? (for a zone that your NS is the master
[06:41] <Keyseir> cafuego, how do I get the ISO I need?
[06:41] <monzie> try mozilla-mplayer spine
[06:42] <cafuego> Keyseir: Nono, the iso comes with workstation.. you should use that to set up the vm initially.
[06:42] <neiras> bwahaha
[06:42] <spine> monzie, il give it a shot, thx
[06:42] <bnD> wow, two in one day :)
[06:42] <monzie> for me it's vi LINUXisTEHsuk , cause i never learnt emacs
[06:42] <cafuego> Keyseir: ergo, if you don't have workstation, you're out of luck.
[06:42] <neiras> I can't handle vi. I use cream.
[06:42] <Seveas> monzie, vi vs emeacs -> /dev/null
[06:42] <neiras> *sigh*
[06:42] <stevenj> cafuego, I have multiple boxes...I'm just testing it out..having "fun" its not like I lose any sleep over it...but I ran though the common fixes.  In fact I figured out that dapper will not even boot for me unless I move my usb mouse to another port ;)
[06:42] <LINUXisTEHsuk> bash,screen,vi,mutt what else do you need?
[06:42] <neiras> Seveas is the thought police today
[06:42] <Seveas> this is a support channel, not a flame pot.
[06:42] <cafuego> stevenj: <heh>
[06:43] <Keyseir> cafuego, don't suppose you know how to set up workstation without a license... or is that out of your area of expertise.
[06:43] <shredhead15> bnd,  were you just helping me?
[06:43] <monzie> sure Seveas , it's open source.. you get to choose what you like and use it
[06:43] <bnD> shredhead15, perhaps? :)
[06:43] <Seveas> neiras, such accusations are VERY unwelcome, read and adhere to the CoC...
[06:43] <cafuego> stevenj: I expect the fix would be to run 2.6.15-12 until the driver is fixed.
[06:43] <shredhead15> bnd,  sorry  i cant scroll up to see
[06:43] <neiras> It was a humourus observation. Easy there :)
[06:43] <bnD> shredhead15, what was the question?
[06:43] <cafuego> Keyseir: You need a license. Same for WIndows.
[06:43] <shredhead15> how to run the ps/2 mouse
[06:43] <metalhedd> If one wanted to have 2 separate x sessions for 2 separate users that could be logged in simultaneously (from the same physical machine only)would there be alot of overhead?  would it essentially double the memory usage of Gnome?
[06:44] <Seveas> neiras, I'm pissed off, having an exam in 3 hours and it's 6:30. So WATCH OUT ;)
[06:44] <shredhead15> bnd,   what was the command again/
[06:44] <monzie> run the ps/2  mouse shredhead15 ?
[06:44] <Javid> I have ubuntu 5.10, how do I burn an ISO? Will I need to install anything or is support native?
[06:44] <stevenj> cafuego, yes I figured that was it...prolly should have waited a few days on the last dist-upgrade
[06:44] <bnD> shredhead15, i would think you would need to add a line for it in your xorg.conf, which can be done rather automatedly by typing 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[06:44] <monzie> i am using a ps/2 mouse.. no problems..
[06:44] <neiras> Seveas: Good luck with that :)
[06:44] <shredhead15> bnd, yes sirry
[06:44] <bnD> shredhead15, good luck :)
[06:44] <LINUXisTEHsuk> gpm -t ps/2 ?
[06:44] <bimberi> Seveas -> /dev/cram
[06:44] <monzie> nope Javid
[06:44] <neiras> cramfs!
[06:45] <bimberi> :)
[06:45] <monzie> that's for console mode LINUXisTEHsuk
[06:45] <Javid> nope at which?
[06:45] <LINUXisTEHsuk> monzie, hehe
[06:45] <Alakazam> hmm
[06:45] <Alakazam> How has this stopped resolving dependencies...
[06:45] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, ubuntu should set it up automagic
[06:45] <mae> timfrost: hmm the slave just pulled the records -- nm - thanks for your help :)
[06:45] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, is it plugged in proper?
[06:45] <shredhead15> bnd, yes it is
[06:45] <bpuccio> Javid: as far as I know, you should be able to burn ISO's out of the box with ubuntu
[06:45] <bnD> shredhead15, yes it is?
[06:45] <monzie> it seems GNUStep is the wm i was looking for after all, thanks for the link
[06:45] <bnD> shredhead15, yes it is what?
[06:45] <Javid> groovy
[06:46] <Javid> how then? ^^
[06:46] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, open up /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:46] <Picky> just installed ubuntu 5.10 and everything is fine except no sound...any ideas anyone?
[06:46] <shredhead15> bnd, it is plugged in properly    sorry
[06:46] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, look for the input section
[06:46] <neiras> monzie, good luck with it. It's actually more than a WM - it's an entire framework and environment
[06:46] <bnD> shredhead15, you meant to highlight LINUXisTEHsuk i believe
[06:46] <bpuccio> Javid: right click the ISO, there should be an option burn to disc
[06:46] <stevenj> cafuego, the only thing that has ever made me lose sleep is configuring a damn KDE...never again. ;)
[06:46] <Javid> there's not, tried that
[06:46] <timfrost> metalhedd, no.  The code would share memory.  The two sessions would have separate data/stack.  The percentage of common memory depends on how much memory the data segments take compared with the code.
[06:46] <bnD> Javid, apt-get install gnomebaker ?
[06:46] <neiras> monzie - it's not as visually slick as certain newer WMs, but it's a great system
[06:47] <timfrost> mae, does the slave get the NOTIFY messages that BIND9 sends?
[06:47] <metalhedd> timfrost, so would you say that's an effective solution to trying to emulate the way winxp handles multiple logged in users?
[06:47] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, I assume x is working just your mouse is not?  you are gonna need to hack your xorg.conf
[06:47] <Javid> E: Couldn't find package gnomebaker
[06:47] <monzie> it sure looks like neiras , btw, is it under active development?
[06:47] <bnD> LINUXisTEHsuk, i already directed shredhead15 to sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:48] <neiras> mozie, it's been active for ages. I wish they got more exposure - the guys who run it are fantastic programmers
[06:48] <timfrost> metalhedd, I have no understanding of what winxp does, so I can't make a valid comparison.
[06:48] <shredhead15> ok  i got into xorg.cong
[06:48] <jbzz> Picky:  Look for a volume control.  On my original install it was set at minimum.
[06:48] <neiras> monzie - It's worthy of a livecd of its own.
[06:48] <bimberi> Javid: gnomebaker is in universe ...
[06:48] <bnD> neiras, you make it ill dl it ;)
[06:48] <Javid> Last time I tried ubuntu I had to activate some extra thing to be able to apt-get what i needed
[06:48] <bpuccio> Javid: have you enabled the extra repositories, universe, multiverse, etc
[06:48] <bimberi> ubotu tell Javid about uniberse
[06:48] <Javid> yeah, universe something
[06:49] <bimberi> ubotu tell Javid about universe
[06:49] <neiras> monzie - careful when setting it up - there are system services it needs to run properly that you might have to add to your init scripts
[06:49] <shredhead15> bnd,  i got into xorg.conf
[06:49] <monzie> will try neiras
[06:49] <metalhedd> well, they can just "switch user" and either log in as someone else or switch to another logged in user with their own desktop/settings.
[06:49] <Javid> thanks
[06:49] <monzie> it isnt under active development?
[06:49] <bnD> shredhead15, i recommend you run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg if youd like to do it by hand i believe LINUXisTEHsuk was assisting you :)
[06:49] <metalhedd> i Like the idea of having a shortcut key to swithc between 2 users sessions
[06:49] <Picky> jbzz it's set at 80%
[06:49] <neiras> monzie - It IS under active development.
[06:50] <Den> Why does firefox take about 3 seconds to respond when decreasing the font size, when in my 2 yr old debian system it was instantaneous?  Is this a firefox or ubuntu problem? Has anyone else noticed this?
[06:50] <spine> monzie, works like magic, is there any way i can turn down the sound a bit tho
[06:50] <monzie> sorry,, looking at the page now neiras
[06:50] <jbzz> Picky:  Sorry, I cannot help any further.  Good luck.
[06:50] <meisam> what is differennces between kde  and  gnome? which one is better and why?
[06:50] <neiras> Den, I've noticed it on several platforms, since firefox 1.0
[06:50] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEGsuk,  i got into xconf
[06:50] <Seveas> meisam, don't start it again...
[06:50] <Picky> no worries
[06:51] <monzie> you have  a multimedia kb spine?
[06:51] <meisam> seveas...thanks
[06:51] <Den> neiras: Do ou have any idea if this is a firefox or ubutu bug?
[06:51] <monzie> neiras, http://linuks.mine.nu/gnustep/
[06:51] <neiras> monzie - thing to remember is, GNUstep's priorities are not on visual polish at this time. They've basically cloned the old NeXTstep UI and stopped there. If you use it for a week, you'll never go back to GNOME
[06:51] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEGsuk, am i looking for input device?
[06:51] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, did you try the dpkg-reconfigure command you were offered first? that is probably a better path for you to take.  editing files in /etc as a newb can be problematic to say the least
[06:51] <spine> nope, i use alt+CTRL+(+)
[06:51] <neiras> oh sweet
[06:51] <spine> i use 85key keyboards
[06:52] <cyphase> how do i import all my images in F-Spot without having it freeze my computer?
[06:52] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  yeah  i just had to reinstall it after the last try
[06:52] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, yeah the mouse.  it prolly points to the wrong /dev/
[06:52] <cyphase> into*
[06:52] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  would youplease walk me through how to do the first one?
[06:52] <monzie> GNUStep is not very popular i guess
[06:52] <spine> i just saw tih s and figure allot of people might want to see it, ive only seen cheaters get beat-up http://www.break.com/index/lancheater.html
[06:53] <LINUXisTEHsuk>  I think by default it points to /dev/input/mice if you don't have that, it won't work. sometimes just changing it to /dev/psaux (for ps/2 mice) works
[06:53] <LINUXisTEHsuk> YMMV
[06:53] <neiras> monzie - it's very popular with people who understand why it is so good technically.
[06:53] <monzie> when the video is running 9 increases and 0 decreases the volume
[06:53] <slavik> what's the command for the bot to tell me something?
[06:53] <neiras> monzie - this quote sums it up: "One could say that GNUstep is a very nice woman, but without proper make-up and with a shabby dress. Although the expert eye could see the star sparkle, the average person maybe would prefer a more normal female with choosen make-up and dress."
[06:53] <Seveas> !tell slavik about yourself
[06:53] <bimberi> slavik: /msg ubotu <factoid>
[06:53] <monzie> neiras, lol!
[06:53] <neiras> as sexist as that might be... sorry ladies
[06:54] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, well you need to find the InputDevice section first
[06:54] <slavik> thanks
[06:54] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  ok    how do i then save those changes.  Last time i tried to save the graphic interface wouldnt work anymore
[06:54] <spine> monzie, awsome, its right next to my current +/- volume buttons
[06:54] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, well...what are you using to edit the file?
[06:54] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  ok i found it
[06:54] <monzie> I hope to write an Ubuntu wiki page on GNUSTEP neiras
[06:54] <slavik> Seveas: _jason told the bot to tell me about installing gnome-art ... apt-get says gnome-art doesn't exist ...
[06:55] <neiras> monzie - I'll help if you like - gbauman@gmail.com
[06:55] <shredhead15> LINUXisTHEsuk,  i typed in sudo vi
[06:55] <Seveas> !info gnome-art
[06:55] <ubotu> gnome-art: (install GNOME themes from art.gnome.org), section universe/gnome, is optional. Version: 0.2-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 26 kB, Installed size: 200 kB
[06:55] <monzie> sure neiras , thanks
[06:55] <_jason> slavik: it is in universe
[06:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell slavik about repos
[06:55] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, but what did you change?
[06:55] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell shredhead15 about vim
[06:55] <slavik> oh ... then I'll use synaptic :D
[06:55] <monzie> i guess i will also write "The GNOME developer who uses everything except GNOME book"
[06:55] <allison_1984> do I need to add a network host to get connected to the network printer ?
[06:55] <nanotube> den: i had the same problem, then installed firefox 1.5, and now its fast
[06:55] <Den> neiras: Do ou have any idea if this is a firefox or ubutu bug?
[06:56] <LINUXisTEHsuk> allison_1984, not if it is on your subnet
[06:56] <neiras> Den, no idea - you could check the ubuntu bug tracker
[06:56] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  nothing yet   or do you mean the time everying went wrong
[06:56] <Den> nanotube: where'd you get 1.5?  is that part of ubutu breezy update?
[06:56] <Jabid> sudo apt-get install gnomebaker
[06:56] <Jabid>  -> E: Broken packages
[06:56] <slavik> is there any reason why I should use apt-get over synaptic?
[06:56] <nanotube> den: no it is not in the packages, you have to get the tar.gz from mozilla.org and install manually.
[06:56] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, did you do :: dpkg-reconfigure xorg-server ?
[06:57] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: I am not able to print at all, though I added a new printer from the network !
[06:57] <ITSa341> anyone got time to help me repair dpkg?
[06:57] <anakin_> can anyone help me?
[06:57] <nanotube> den: check out this link about installing firefox1.5: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:57] <spine> its the same, apt-get is faster for some
[06:57] <frazmanw> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:57] <Jabid> gnomebaker:
[06:57] <Jabid>  Depends: cdda2wav  but it is not installable
[06:57] <Jabid>  Depends: cdrdao  but it is not installable
[06:57] <Den> nanotube: Thx - do you have any idea if & when the ubutu developers will get that available?
[06:57] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: can you help me set up the printer to work ?
[06:57] <LINUXisTEHsuk> allison_1984, then adding it to your /etc/hosts will prolly not help you.  CUPS is a great tool for setting up printers in *nix
[06:57] <anakin_> what this mean: Could not load OpenGL library?
[06:58] <allison_1984> cups or windows (smb) ?
[06:58] <Jabid> x.x
[06:58] <nanotube> slavik: you use apt-get if you want to be "cool" and use the CLI. you use synaptic if you want to be pleasantly surprised at how nice package management can be :)
[06:58] <Xnos> somebody uses avidemux???
[06:58] <LINUXisTEHsuk> Common Unix Print System
[06:58] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  no i went to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:58] <bnD> Jabid, uncomment the extra repos in your /etc/apt/sources.list if you have not yet done so
[06:58] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: I am on a windows network, but I am using ubuntu
[06:58] <bnD> Jabid, then type sudo apt-get update
[06:58] <nanotube> den: ive checked out some forums wondering about that myself - and it seems that it was decided not to have firefox 1.5 available for breezy. so you will have to wait until dapper comes out to have firefox1.5 in the repositories.
[06:58] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, try the first solution bnD gave you plz
[06:59] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: I also need to access the files on the server
[06:59] <shredhead15> LINUXisTHEsuk, ok  so i just type that into the terminal?
[06:59] <slavik> nanotube: gotcha ... I'm going to be with teh cool crowd 8-)
[06:59] <monzie> the faq tells me that GNUStep is not a wm, and tells me that windowmaker is the recommended window manager neiras \
[06:59] <nanotube> den: or follow the instructions in that link i sent you. its not that hard, but sure is more of a pain than just using apt :)
[06:59] <monzie> do you use it too?
[06:59] <Jabid> it won't let me edit it x.x
[06:59] <LINUXisTEHsuk> allison_1984, there are several tools available to set up a linux box to use a windows printer.  cups is a good one. both kde and gnome both have frontends for this as well
[07:00] <nanotube> slavik: hehe, i myself mostly use synaptic
[07:00] <bnD> Jabid, sudo nano apt-get /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:00] <neiras> Gnustep is the complete package - frameworks, wm (windowmaker), everything
[07:00] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  i just type that into the terminal?
[07:00] <slavik> it's better to "browse" through stuff
[07:00] <neiras> I don't use it anymore
[07:00] <neiras> but I'll be installing it again soon
[07:00] <Jabid> thanks
[07:00] <slavik> although some things don't appear in the packages :(
[07:00] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, I think it is actually xserver-org
[07:00] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: hmmm, and for acessing the files on the server ?.....
[07:01] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:01] <Den> nanotube: & frazmanw - Thanks!
[07:01] <frazmanw> Den no prob
[07:01] <nevyn> wahoo dapper installs :)
[07:01] <nanotube> den: np
[07:01] <Xnos> avidemux generates me a mpg and a mph file... instead only one mpg
[07:01] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: I tried it from the wiki with windows (smb)  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsXPPrinter?highlight=%28printer%29
[07:01] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk, thanks alot for helping
[07:02] <Guest348> hey
[07:02] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey
[07:03] <Jabid> it won't let me write it from that now
[07:03] <bnD> Jabid, you used the sudo command?
[07:03] <Jabid> yeah
[07:03] <nanotube> slavik: what kind of things dont appear in packages for you?
[07:03] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk, it says it must be run as root
[07:03] <bnD> :l what error did you get Jabid ?
[07:03] <Jabid> sudo nano etc/apt/sources.list
[07:03] <Jabid>  [ Error writing etc/apt/sources.list: No such file or directory ] 
[07:03] <weston> hello, just got setup with ubuntu and I'm connecting to the internet with my netgear ma101. I'm connected (and using that connection), but it seems to be taking a REALLY long time to connect to pages
[07:03] <weston> any idea what could cause that?
[07:04] <MacSlow> re
[07:04] <bnD> Jabid, try sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:04] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, so do:: sudo -s
[07:04] <MacSlow> Where are the .debs for the kernel-sources for dapper?
[07:04] <bnD> Jabid, that should do it, good luck, im going afk
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> o/~ Please just say NOOOOOOO to craaaaack
[07:04] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, then type your shredhead15 password
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> o/~ When you spott butt crack, attack
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> o/~ If you see a trucker fix a tire
[07:04] <bnD> bluefoxicy, you ok?
[07:04] <bluefoxicy> o/~ Or a cable worker fix a wire
[07:04] <jbzz> allison_1984:  You have returned.  How far did you get with the shared printer?
[07:04] <PuMpErNiCkLe> bnD: He's on crack.
[07:04] <bnD> Seveas, <3
[07:04] <Jabid> working now
[07:04] <nevyn> kudos to the ubuntu install team you have the only debian installer that supports a travelmate 4150 (SATA ATAPI)
[07:05] <bnD> PuMpErNiCkLe, apparently
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> oops
[07:05] <weston> I wonder if firefox is just being slow... I'm using the 64 bit vresion of ubunto...
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> thought I clicked #wikipedia
[07:05] <MacSlow> I intend to compile the nvidia-driver, but the needed kenrel-soures package doens't show up in synaptic
[07:05] <Seveas> dude, wtf was that?
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> sorry about that Seveas
[07:05] <slavik> nanotube: firefox 1.5
[07:05] <slavik> and gaim 2.0 beta ...
[07:05] <bnD> >_<
[07:05] <allison_1984> jbzz: well, everything looks fine, the icon even says prinitng, but nothing gets printed so far
[07:05] <bluefoxicy> slavik:  wait what we got gaim 2?
[07:06] <jbzz> allison_1984:  That is what I found when I tried it.  I will tell you what to check.
[07:06] <metalhedd> Now I can't figure out how to run 2 X servers on different vts
[07:06] <metalhedd> can anyone shed some light?
[07:06] <nanotube> slavik: ah well, using apt-get wont help you with that either. firefox1.5 is not available in the repos. read what i said to "den" about firefox1.5 above...
[07:06] <Toma-> metalhedd, startx -- :1
[07:06] <jbzz> allison_1984:  Look at the file called   /etc/cups/printers.conf
[07:06] <Seveas> metalhedd, applications -> system tools -> new login
[07:06] <Toma-> or that ^
[07:06] <MacSlow> metalhedd, did you pass each call the an X a differnt DISPLAY to use?
[07:07] <jbzz> allison_1984: There will be a line in there for the printer you are trying to reach.
[07:07] <allison_1984> jbzz: hey, its ok, it just printed.....
[07:07] <nanotube> bluefoxicy: yea, gaim2beta is out... but take my word for it - it sucks.
[07:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Super.  See you.
[07:07] <metalhedd> Oh my
[07:07] <allison_1984> LinuxisTEKsuk: thanks, the cups option worked..its printing now :)
[07:07] <bluefoxicy> nanotube:  in dapper?
[07:07] <mcdenyer> bnd hey
[07:07] <metalhedd> that's exactly what I was trying to implement. I didn't know it was already included in gnome
[07:07] <mcdenyer> bnd cna i get your source list now?
[07:07] <nanotube> slavik: gaim 2 beta sucked, so you wouldnt want it anyway. :)
[07:07] <metalhedd> I just wanted to have 2 users logged in at the same time.
[07:07] <allison_1984> jbzz: thanks, I used the cups options instaed of the windows(smb) :)
[07:08] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Odd.  I never tried that.
[07:08] <allison_1984> jbzz: next is the server files....hahahaha
[07:08] <nanotube> bluefoxicy: no, i checked it out under winxp :) back before i set my laptop to dualboot into ubuntu. ;)
[07:08] <slavik> nanotube: already use it on winxp :)
[07:08] <jbzz> allison_1984:   No fear!
[07:08] <slavik> and bluefoxicy, yes there is gaim2
[07:08] <allison_1984> jbzz: it just works....well try it then
[07:08] <bluefoxicy> nanotube:  gaim 2 has been out forever, just not in ubuntu yet.
[07:08] <nanotube> slavik: that's where i checked it out, too, under winxp. i thought the new interface was worse than 1.5, though.
[07:08] <slavik> although the devs were yelling that there won't ever be even a 1.0 this was back in the .8x day ...
[07:08] <LINUXisTEHsuk> allison_1984, :)
[07:09] <allison_1984> jbz: ;0
[07:09] <MacSlow> can anybody tell me where to find the kernel-sources/headers for dapper so I can compile the nvidia-driver?
[07:09] <slavik> nanotube: I like to be on the bleeding extreme edge :)
[07:09] <slavik> MacSlow: did you try the repository?
[07:09] <nanotube> bluefoxicy: yea, i know. :) not quite forever, but for a while now.
[07:09] <nanotube> slavik: hehe i see. well as long as you are having fun. :)
[07:09] <MacSlow> slavik, sure otherwise I would not ask
[07:10] <MacSlow> slavik, there is no linux-kernel-* for dapper
[07:10] <KeithWeisshar> When I do a cd-rom integrity check on the ubuntu dvd it sometimes freezes for a minute and displays integrity failure, why
[07:10] <LINUXisTEHsuk> MacSlow, do:: uname -a
[07:10] <LINUXisTEHsuk> MacSlow, then do :: apt-cache search kernel-headers and get the same kernel
[07:10] <KeithWeisshar> when I then try to rescan for cd-rom it freezes
[07:10] <timfrost> MacSlow, the headers are named linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[07:10] <weston> hmm, thats weird. This program works fine but gaim can't connect and firefox is uber slow...
[07:11] <LINUXisTEHsuk> or what timfrost said
[07:11] <Toma-> MacSlow, sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r`
[07:11] <LINUXisTEHsuk> thar ya go
[07:11] <slavik> how does dapper work with there is no kernel?
[07:11] <amicrawler> where is the ubuntu new archives of deb files like new games other then whats here in the mutil vers and so on ?
[07:11] <KeithWeisshar> i have a rebadged cyberdrive DX082D with 150B firmware
[07:11] <slavik> ;)
[07:11] <LINUXisTEHsuk> dapper is so os advanced it doesn't need a kernel =p
[07:11] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,   that didnt seem to work   what was i supposed to do in there
[07:11] <slavik> I am guessing that it uses the 2.6.12 kernel :)
[07:12] <KeithWeisshar> my drive randomly locks  up during Ubuntu installation or integrity check
[07:12] <Toma-> amicrawler, they dont generally get updated :(
[07:12] <amicrawler> oh
[07:12] <amicrawler> so can i use reg deb files from sarge ?
[07:12] <Toma-> amicrawler, what game did u want updated?
[07:12] <slavik> KeithWeisshar: that's not good in general ... if your drive "locks up"
[07:12] <Jabid> yay I can write cds now
[07:12] <Jabid> I <3 you
[07:12] <MacSlow> LINUXisTEHsuk, timfrost, Toma-: argl... I don't get it... that sudo apt-get install linux-headers-`uname -r` found them but not synaptic :/
[07:12] <Seveas> slavik, wrong guess
[07:12] <amicrawler> no some new games
[07:12] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, do you know how to edit files and restart init scripts?
[07:12] <amicrawler> like racer etc:
[07:12] <Seveas> slavik, dapper uses 2.6.15
[07:12] <Toma-> amicrawler, you can, but they sometimes/usually break your system
[07:13] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  no
[07:13] <slavik> hmm, is there much difference between the two?
[07:13] <Seveas> quite :)
[07:13] <KeithWeisshar> the integrity check fails
[07:13] <Toma-> MacSlow, file a bug, or revise your sarch method
[07:13] <MacSlow> LINUXisTEHsuk, timfrost, Toma-: how to always enforce a fully up-to-date .dep-reposiotry db?
[07:13] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  well  what is restart intial scripts
[07:13] <KeithWeisshar> when i reboot and retry the integrity check it doesn't fail on the same file
[07:13] <Toma-> ...
[07:13] <amicrawler> humm is there a deb i can get with out breaking the system
[07:13] <KeithWeisshar> it doesn't fail on the same file each time, it fails randomly
[07:14] <Toma-> MacSlow, sudo apt-get update ?
[07:14] <Toma-> amicrawler, racer actually works now? :D
[07:14] <amicrawler> i'm looking for racer nl
[07:14] <nanotube> hey cafuego, slavik, i found some stuff about the cpu frequencies... check it http://lists.debian.org/debian-laptop/2004/09/msg00241.html
[07:14] <amicrawler> yes and so does parsec
[07:14] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, then unfortunately I don't I have the patients to help you solve the problem.  basically one of a few things is going on:: 1) your mouse is b0rk 2) your InputDevice points to /dev/input/mice when it should point to /dev/psaux 3) xorg.conf is using the wrong driver or device location.  sorry
[07:14] <MacSlow> Toma-, *sigh* ok... sorry.. I'm still brand-new to .deb and ubuntu
[07:14] <nanotube> so it looks like it was not really a problem after all...
[07:14] <KeithWeisshar> is there any way to copy the ubuntu dvd to hard drive and then install from the hard drive
[07:15] <Toma-> amicrawler, if i were you, id use the loki installer for that one
[07:15] <LINUXisTEHsuk> MacSlow, apt-get update updates your cache to represent to latest versions of the deb repos
[07:15] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  if i change input device to psaux   how do i save that change?
[07:15] <Toma-> amicrawler, http://www.liflg.org/?catid=6&gameid=13
[07:15] <KeithWeisshar> is there any way to send a drive reset from the shell if the drive locks up
[07:15] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, :q in vim
[07:16] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, then you have to restart gdm/kdm/xdm or whatever you run
[07:16] <LINUXisTEHsuk> ctrl-alt-bkspc in x will restart x
[07:16] <nanotube> linuxistehsuk: dude, if he doesnt even know how to edit config files an stuff, just tell him to use pico, and dont bother with vim. :)
[07:16] <bnD> mcdenyer, did you want me to try sending it again .. ?
[07:16] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,   so i should use vim to edit?
[07:16] <KeithWeisshar> the drive only resets from the bios when i reboot
[07:16] <bnD> nanotube, you mean nano? :PP
[07:17] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, use whatever you know how to use dude
[07:17] <Toma-> MacSlow, have a read of "man apt-get" and "man dpkg"
[07:17] <nanotube> bnd: yea, whatever :)
[07:17] <bnD> nanotube, hehe
[07:17] <slavik> I see
[07:17] <amicrawler> i hate torrent
[07:17] <shredhead15> LINUXisTEHsuk,  ok thanks for the help
[07:17] <amicrawler> ftp is better
[07:17] <ba> is there a mac channel on this irc server?
[07:17] <Toma-> amicrawler, dont use the torrent then :D~
[07:17] <MacSlow> Toma-, indeed I should "RTFM" myself :)
[07:17] <Toma-> hehe :)
[07:18] <amicrawler> i try not to it takes to long to get files from then
[07:18] <siorai> Ugh, so I have all of the packedges regarding reading DVDs,
[07:18] <LINUXisTEHsuk> shredhead15, remember one thing about linux. RTFM :)  (and there are tons out there)
[07:18] <slavik> if I downloaded sources that are more up to date ... how do replace installed packages without getting rid of the old stuff?
[07:18] <slavik> gaim2 and firefox 1.5 :)
[07:18] <siorai> all of the mega/universe unlocked, and yet, it still won't work...
[07:18] <MacSlow> bbl
[07:18] <siorai> It's been driving me insane
[07:18] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, you can 'pin' apps in your /etc/apt.conf
[07:18] <Toma-> slavik, youre installing from source?
[07:18] <Toma-> not deb?
[07:19] <bnD> slavik, there is a guide on the wiki on how to maintain your old settings/config if thats what you mean
[07:19] <slavik> Toma-: yes, because the repositories do not have the latest bleeding extreme cutting edge stuff :)
[07:19] <Toma-> siorai, including libdvdcss?
[07:19] <bnD> slavik, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[07:19] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, you can also install from source into /usr/local vs /usr/
[07:20] <Toma-> slavik, easy, when using ./configure, just use the tag --prefix=/opt
[07:20] <amicrawler> all you need to get xine and the lib for it
[07:20] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, or what Toma- said
[07:20] <slavik> but I want to get rid of the older packages that are installed
[07:20] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Are you still there?
[07:20] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, dpkg --purge
[07:20] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, apt-get remove
[07:20] <allison_1984> jbzz: yes, tell me
[07:20] <LINUXisTEHsuk> prolly not in that order =p
[07:20] <amicrawler> is lokie any good or should i use winex
[07:20] <Toma-> slavik, eg, ./configure --prefix=/opt  ....thatll install it all to /opt, rather than /usr, leaving your old apps where they are. ALSSSSO!!! use "checkinstall" rather than make install
[07:21] <slavik> LINUXisTEHsuk: removing gaim and firefox requires removal of other packages
[07:21] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Hey I just sahred a directory on my Windows 2000 Pro system and tried to connect to get at the files.
[07:21] <Toma-> amicrawler, loki installers are the most awesome thing to happen to linux gaming
[07:21] <Toma-> imho.
[07:21] <allison_1984> jbzz: did it work ?
[07:21] <jnicholson> hi everyone -- i've followed the WPA howto to configure my dlink airplus (g)...  it almost works...  i get connected and authorized, but don't get an IP... i've double-checked that my ssid and passphrase for WPA-PSK are correct... any ideas?
[07:21] <siorai> Yes Toma
[07:21] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, that is why the --prefix=/opt option may be better unless you FULLY understand the ramifications of --force
[07:21] <amicrawler> libstdc++-libc6.2-2.so.3: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[07:22] <LINUXisTEHsuk> jnicholson, ifconfig wlan0 up
[07:22] <slavik> LINUXisTEHsuk: I am running ubuntu on vmware ... no harm if I screw up :)
[07:22] <jbzz> allison_1984:   It was very easy.  In 'File Browser' use the 'File  -  Connect to server'  selection and fill in the form.  Choose a Windows network.  Worked fine.
[07:22] <LINUXisTEHsuk> slavik, live learn drink....wash, rinse, repeat
[07:22] <nanotube> siorai: did you follow instructions from here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  ?
[07:23] <Toma-> amicrawler, run this "sudo apt-get install libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2"
[07:23] <jbzz> allison_1984:   I  chose to use a username that I knew existed on that Windows 2000 Pro system to make the connection.  You will see the box for that.
[07:23] <nanotube> siorai: specifically, did you do 'sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh' after installing libdvdread3 ?
[07:23] <allison_1984> jbzz: I have to figure to connect to the server files, I so don't want to go to back to windoze
[07:23] <slavik> exactly, trying ubuntu on vmware before my laptop gets here :)
[07:23] <allison_1984> jbzz: cool. I will try it
[07:24] <jbzz> allison_1984:   So you should not have a hard time connecting to your WIndows shared files.  Take care.
[07:24] <allison_1984> jbzz: thanks...likewise
[07:24] <amicrawler> racer works great
[07:25] <siorai> I'm running that right now nanotube
[07:25] <nanotube> siorai: cool ;)
[07:26] <nekostar> OK
[07:26] <nekostar> is there a way to resize an active partition?
[07:27] <LINUXisTEHsuk> siorai, Capt. DSS ain't smiling upong you?
[07:27] <allison_1984> jbzz: btw, which application is this file browser in ?
[07:27] <varsendagger> hey how do i get abi word to spell check?
[07:27] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Choose   Applications  then Accessories   Then File Browser.
[07:27] <allison_1984> jbzz: remote desktop ?
[07:28] <siorai> no, for some reason there must be a conflict with my dvd drive
[07:28] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Not a remote desktop.
[07:28] <jnicholson> LINUXisTEHsuk, didn't make a difference, i think it (ath0) was already up... :(
[07:28] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright
[07:28] <scanwinder> when i open my webbrowsers, it says mozplugger cant find mozpluggerrc when i have it at /etc/mozpluggerrc
[07:29] <jbzz> allison_1984:    Then    File    then   Connect to server
[07:29] <scanwinder> where else would it look for mozpluggerrc?
[07:29] <LINUXisTEHsuk> jnicholson, if your network is running dhcp, and you have signal strenth (iwconfig ath0) then you can just do:: dhclient3 ath0
[07:30] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, ~/.mozpluggerrc ~/.mplayer/mozpluggerrc
[07:30] <LINUXisTEHsuk> jnicholson, do you have wavemon?
[07:30] <siorai> well... I can't even get it to reconize it as a CD
[07:30] <siorai> erm, tha anything is in the drive
[07:30] <siorai> nor can I read anything else that's been tossed into it
[07:30] <siorai> I know for a fact the drive still works, because I install ubuntu from it a few weeks ago, but I don't use the drive much, so I've been kind of ignoring this little problem of mine.. but...
[07:30] <LINUXisTEHsuk> jnicholson, that is a great tool for checking signal strength
[07:31] <LINUXisTEHsuk> siorai, what are you trying to play?
[07:31] <siorai> If it can't even read my CD's, this is a fairly major flaw
[07:31] <jnicholson> LINUXisTEHsuk, i'm using 5.10 gnome tools... says i have 80% strength
[07:31] <LINUXisTEHsuk> siorai, an audio cd ? vcd ? dvd ?
[07:32] <varsendagger> where should i go to find out about abiword's spellcheck?
[07:32] <siorai> _anything_ at this point
[07:32] <siorai> trying to play a DVD...
[07:32] <siorai> but, ....
[07:32] <jnicholson> LINUXisTEHsuk, that would be network monitor, i guess
[07:32] <siorai> omg! it works! can't believe it! it actually works
[07:32] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: ive got a copy of it in all those places and all browsers using mozplugger still say MozPlugger: Warning: Unable to find the mozpluggerrc file.
[07:32] <LINUXisTEHsuk> jnicholson, then either use dhclient/pump or ifconfig ath0 10.0.0.2 netmask 255.255.255.0 up; route add default gw 10.0.0.1 or similar
[07:32] <siorai> (the last few hours one thing after another has been going wrong, but at least this works, so I feel a little better... not much, but a little)
[07:33] <slavik> interesting ...
[07:33] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, how did you install mozplugger?
[07:33] <allison_1984> jbzz: should the host name be also the server name ?
[07:33] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: apt-get install mozplugger
[07:33] <LINUXisTEHsuk> did you restart firefox/mozilla?
[07:33] <slavik> gaim2 failed to build because "C compiler cannot create executables"
[07:33] <jbzz> allison_1984:   For the HOST name I used the name of the computer that is sharing files.
[07:33] <siorai> It is, however, glitchy... : / choppy....
[07:33] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: yes
[07:34] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: im using not the original mozpluggerrc tho...is there a way for it to completely re-install mozplugger?
[07:34] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, well. I don't haven't used mozplugger for > year.  Let me dink with it a minute
[07:34] <allison_1984> jbzz: yes, thats the ip address of the xp machine....what should I give for server ?
[07:34] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, dpkg-reconfigure mozplugger
[07:34] <mcdenyer> bnd hey sry been busy
[07:35] <LINUXisTEHsuk> !dpkg-reconfigure
[07:35] <ubotu> LINUXisTEHsuk: Huh?
[07:35] <mcdenyer> bnd tons of tests tommorow
[07:35] <grexk> hello everyONe I just wanted to know if there is a cd 2 of dapper which is downloadble?
[07:35] <jbzz> allison_1984:   The 'Server'   I used the name of the computer that is sharing the directory.    I did not use the IP number.
[07:35] <mcdenyer> bnd do u think u could email it to me
[07:35] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: ive tried dpkg-reconfigure but its not replacing all of its files
[07:35] <varsendagger> LINUXisTEHsuk, what exactly does your name mean?
[07:35] <jbzz> allison_1984:   But I do have entires in my    HOSTS  file that changes names to IP numbers.
[07:36] <siorai> Oh wel, it works
[07:36] <mcdenyer> bnd nevermind ill just talk to u later
[07:36] <mcdenyer> hey i accidently updated breezy wiuth a hoary source code no harm done right?
[07:36] <LINUXisTEHsuk> varsendagger, 'your name' ?
[07:36] <jbzz> allison_1984:   The domain name is the name of the network.
[07:37] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, do you have a file you are trying to play? where are you seeing this error?
[07:37] <allison_1984> jbzz: I know the domain name......
[07:37] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: when i open opera or firefox
[07:37] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: the plugins from it arent working either
[07:37] <LINUXisTEHsuk> like flash and java you mean?
[07:38] <varsendagger> LINUXisTEHsuk, <------ that one
[07:38] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: no, the plugins from mozplugger
[07:38] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: other plugins work
[07:38] <jbzz> allison_1984:  The 'name to use for connection' is what YOU want to call the connection on YOUR end.
[07:39] <jbzz> allison_1984: The 'user name' is a name of a user that exists on the Windows machine.
[07:39] <wabz> gday, ive got two lcd screens connected, one digital the other analogue. the main monitor seems to be the analogue one on the right, and id rather full screen apps (quake3 etc) loaded on the digital monitor. using nvidia drivers, twinview. ideas?
[07:39] <allison_1984> jbzz: I alreday got a username for the network,
[07:40] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Are you trying to make that connection now?
[07:40] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright, what do I put in server ?
[07:40] <LINUXisTEHsuk> scanwinder, in firefox do:: about:plugins  do you see mozplugger?
[07:40] <allison_1984> jbzz: yes
[07:40] <scanwinder> LINUXisTEHsuk: nope
[07:40] <LINUXisTEHsuk> I am going to kill myself now. bye
[07:40] <jbzz> allison_1984:   The 'server'  is the name of the computer that is providing the sharepoint.  Simply the name of that machine.
[07:41] <RaydenUnicyclist> yay
[07:41] <allison_1984> LINUXisTEHsuk: why ?
[07:41] <RaydenUnicyclist> finally got ubuntu working on the network
[07:41] <stonecan_11> jju
[07:41] <stonecan_11> hjkhj
[07:41] <stonecan_11> halu
[07:41] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright
[07:42] <stonecan_11> what is your name?
[07:42] <RaydenUnicyclist> can you guys recommend a site for me to read through to get familiar with ubuntu? i have a little bit of linux experience, mostly just as a user on a school network. my roommate has done a bunch but he isn't familiar with ubuntu specifically
[07:42] <stonecan_11> swdde54trtfgkluio
[07:42] <stonecan_11> gyuyyuujui87iik
[07:43] <stonecan_11> ,hjtutyufujh
[07:43] <grexk> rayden: what do you want to know?
[07:43] <stonecan_11> love
[07:43] <RaydenUnicyclist> what i'm trying to do right now is update the firefox package
[07:43] <RaydenUnicyclist> but it doesn't find any updates
[07:43] <stonecan_11> your name?
[07:43] <grexk> maybe your firefox is the most updated bin
[07:44] <PuMpErNiCkLe> And the winner of the prestigious "I'm the one who gets /ignored today!" award goes to..... stonecan_11 !!!!
[07:44] <grexk> you can visit packages.ubuntu.com then choose breezy backports then search firefox
[07:44] <RaydenUnicyclist> no, its 1.0.7
[07:44] <wabz> how do i make quake start on the 'correct' monitor?
[07:44] <grexk> heheh
[07:44] <Toba> uh
[07:44] <Toba> I have a problem
[07:45] <Toba> I just set the clock applet to update to timeservers
[07:45] <Toba> so I go back into the options box
[07:45] <Toba> AND IT WAS UNCHECKED
[07:45] <Toba> it isn't saving my settings :(
[07:46] <Toba> could it be a file permissions problem?
[07:46] <grexk> maybe..
[07:46] <PuMpErNiCkLe> Toba: Did you pick a server?
[07:46] <Toba> I picked 3
[07:46] <Toba> they are still checked when I click select servers
[07:47] <Toba> and I know for a fact that at least one of them is up, I just used it on another box
[07:48] <PuMpErNiCkLe> odd.
[07:48] <timfrost> !ff1.5
[07:48] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:48] <Toba> yeah... it is
[07:48] <Toba> anyone have a guess on what it could be?
[07:48] <Toba> (the logs or configs that is)
[07:49] <nanotube> toba: are you sure it does not actually update to timeservers? maybe it updates properly, and its just the checkbox that is not checked?
[07:49] <geneo93> anyone having trouble installing nvidia drivers on newer kernels there is a patch you need
[07:49] <Toba> nanotube: yes, I am sure
[07:49] <luisito> hello
[07:49] <Toba> my clock was off by 11 seconds... and it doesn't go off very fast
[07:50] <Toba> geneo93: what?
[07:51] <geneo93> toba i have 2.6.16 here and nvidia 8178 installed
[07:51] <Toba> geneo93: oh, I thought you were offering advice
[07:51] <Toba> I have no idea how to help you
[07:51] <geneo93> well it works but i needed patch
[07:52] <geneo93> just thought youmight want to know of it
[07:52] <jnicholson> LINUXisTEHsuk, strange...  still no go and dhclient3 fails with no dhcpofferrs received... maybe it's the router?
[07:52] <nanotube> geneo93: have you tried google?
[07:52] <RobinL> hi ,how to enable X composite?
[07:52] <Toba> and gnome
[07:53] <allison_1984> jbzz: still here ?
[07:53] <RaydenUnicyclist> grexk you can visit packages.ubuntu.com then choose breezy backports then search firefox <-- do i want breezy backports of dapper? the latest breezy is firefox 1.0.7. dapper has 1.5
[07:53] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Yes.
[07:53] <geneo93> http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=62889
[07:53] <jnicholson> LINUXisTEHsuk, though the router works with a windows desktop wireless connection
[07:53] <grexk> check backports
[07:54] <allison_1984> jbzz: hmmm, it keeps asking me for the password ? I can alreday see the admin icon on the server
[07:54] <RaydenUnicyclist> ok. i have a .deb file for the latest firefox i want to install. what do i do with this? save it somewhere and then load with the package manager?
[07:55] <luisito> I have done a theme based on Aluminum Alloy themes, and also have made changes and fixes to the Aluminum Alloy themes for Ubuntu. Check them in www.freewebs.com/vidalweb, and tell me what do you think . They aren't ready to download until I have the author permission. :P
[07:55] <grexk> dpkg -i package name
[07:55] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Hmmm.  I can connect.  When I tried to edit a file on the Windows share point it asked me for a password then it let me edit.
[07:55] <grexk> or sudo dpkg -i package
[07:55] <nanotube> !ff1.5
[07:55] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:55] <nanotube> raydenunicyclist: read the previous line
[07:55] <RaydenUnicyclist> thanks
[07:55] <eNetic> make?
[07:56] <allison_1984> hmmm, I prolly have to ask my it admin guy to reset the username
[07:56] <nanotube> rayneduni: thanks for making your name easier to type :)
[07:56] <Toma-> luisito, its very..... blue....
[07:56] <jbzz> allison_1984:   The next time I tried to edit it did NOT ask me for a password.
[07:56] <grexk> no prob
[07:56] <grexk> anyone has project that I can joined to?
[07:57] <Toma-> luisito, whats with the vertical progress bars.... they look like theyre using the same image as the horizontal?
[07:57] <nanotube> grexk: what kind of project are you looking for?
[07:57] <allison_1984> jbzz: says...you must log in to access abcd@192.687.2.678@server domain something.org
[07:57] <grexk> any project...
[07:57] <luisito> Toma-, yep, I know, but that screenshot doesn't make justice, really.
[07:57] <grexk> ;)
[07:57] <Toma-> luisito, ahh k
[07:58] <nanotube> grexk: hmm... how about pykeylogger.sf.net
[07:58] <grexk> hehehe
[07:58] <nanotube> grexk: its something i threw together some months ago :)
[07:58] <grexk> don't know about python yet
[07:58] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Wow.  Are you trying to log into a REMOTE Windows system or a LOCAL Windows server?
[07:58] <grexk> waaaaa @nano
[07:58] <grexk> why did you thro it?
[07:59] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Mine is LOCAL.
[07:59] <grexk> throw*
[07:59] <luisito> Toma-,  with the vertical scrollbars I really don't know what happened but I'm sure is a silly thing I'll fix when I get the permission. :)
[07:59] <nanotube> grexk: well, never a better time to learn than now :)
[07:59] <allison_1984> jbzz: its local, I think
[07:59] <nanotube> grexk: could not find an open source keylogger for win. so had to make one myself.
[07:59] <allison_1984> yes
[07:59] <grexk> :) @nano
[07:59] <Toma-> luisito, cool :)
[07:59] <nanotube> grexk: sf.net had some projects, but none actually offered source, so was very suspicious.
[07:59] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Is it in the same building you are in ?  On the LOCAL network?
[07:59] <allison_1984> jbzz: the office's....lol
[08:00] <grexk> why did you choose a keylogger?
[08:02] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Are you in the same building as the server?
[08:02] <nanotube> grexk: i had this idea to run one on my comp, so as to have automatic backup of stuff i type, so if stuff crashes, i dont have to retype.
[08:02] <nanotube> grexk: it was pretty cool, but now (as of a coupla weeks ago) i dont really run win anymore, i switched to ubuntu, so its kinda a moot point :)
[08:03] <grexk> nanotube so ur new to linux?
[08:03] <allison_1984> jbzz: yes, the server is right in front of me
[08:03] <allison_1984> jbzz: sorry, I am not so good with servers and network... ;)
[08:03] <luisito> Toma-, I didn't want to make it so blue but I also didn't make it white because it would hurt too much in the eyes. Gray wasn't good with all the other elements so I choosed the cyan for it and it really fits well. That's why it is too blue. But I really tell you it looks good. Also, all the combos and buttons looks properly and all is in place thanks to clearlooks :)
[08:03] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Well mine is in the basement.  Did you give that machine a name?
[08:03] <nanotube> heh, well, not really. i used to be a sysadmin on some freebsd and rh linux servers, so i know some stuff. but not so much about the desktop stuff, just the commandline and services and things like that, grexk.
[08:04] <allison_1984> jbzz: the it chap told me its called server itself
[08:05] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Yes it serves files and printers.   Did you make a sharepoint on the server machine that you can connect to?
[08:05] <grexk> ah ok...Is it hard to use freebsd? I want to try it...
[08:06] <nanotube> freebsd is cool. its still my fav os for running a server :) but it doesnt support quite as many hardware devices as linux, so difficult to get a desktop system. well, i tried that some years ago, so probably now it is better.
[08:06] <nevyn> grexk: depends what you want to achieve
[08:06] <allison_1984> jbzz: what's a sharepoint ? is it the same as having a unique username/password to access it ?
[08:06] <monzie> it's diff grexk , but i dont think this is the channel
[08:06] <varsendagger> hey does anyone know how to use the spellcheck in abiword?
[08:06] <grexk> ok  sorry...
[08:06] <nanotube> its not any harder to use that linux, although the conf files are all in diff places, so it took me some time to figure out where ubuntu stores its stuff :)
[08:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:   No.  On the server you choose a directory and right click on the name.  Then choose to SHARE that directory.  That is then a sharepoint.
[08:07] <grexk> ah ok @nanotube
[08:07] <nanotube> grexk: but hey, if you want to try it, please do, you might like it. but check the hardware compatibility list so that you nkow what to expect :)
[08:07] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Then you can connect to that with your Ubuntu system because now it is PRESENTED as an accessible sharepoint.
[08:07] <grexk> ok
[08:07] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright, I should be doing that from my machine or ther server ?
[08:08] <allison_1984> jbzz: alright
[08:08] <nanotube> so how about you grexk, how long have you been linuxing it up? :)
[08:08] <BradM> I'm using Ubuntu 5.10 with Gnome. When I sign on, I can chose between a number of sessions. Such as Gnome, Failsafe Gnome, ect. I was wondering if there was anyway to add a 'terminal session' or whatever you would call it, and logon with not GUI. Just a terminal. Is this possible?
[08:08] <grexk> by the way I just downloaded dapper flight 3
[08:08] <BradM> with no*
[08:08] <nanotube> bradm: just press "ctrl-alt-f1" to switch to another virtual terminal
[08:08] <grexk> Me, last year..Hehehe
[08:08] <jbzz> allison_1984:   One the server, make a sharepoint.  That is the directory you want to share.  Right click on the directory you want to share and choose to make it SHARED.
[08:09] <nanotube> heh nice, grexk. i am not gonna do dapper until its stable. cuz i cant afford to screw up my main productivity machine. :)
[08:10] <grexk> well I like to experiment with dapper...:)
[08:10] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is xinerama the only way to do a dual monitor setup on GNOME or KDE?
[08:10] <nanotube> bradm: in fact ubuntu runs several virtual terminals, you can use any one of them (choose f1-f12, but f7 is where gnome runs). so that way you can use console without the gui.
[08:10] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Then you connect to that NAME that you are sharing it as.  So if you have a directory called BB on the server you can elect to share it as BB, or some other name if you wish.
[08:10] <grexk> puppiesOnAcid: nope
[08:10] <PuppiesOnAcid> What are my other options?
[08:11] <grexk> I not quite sure but there are howtos in TLDP
[08:11] <jbzz> allison_1984:   Then go back to your Ubuntu machine and instruct it to connect to that name you used for the sharepoint.
[08:11] <nanotube> grexk: so you run a dual monitor rig?
[08:11] <PuppiesOnAcid> TLDP?
[08:11] <allison_1984> jbzz: ok, cool, thanks again
[08:11] <nanotube> puppiesonacid: the linux documentation project
[08:12] <PuppiesOnAcid> Ah, the linux documentation project
[08:12] <grexk> yup
[08:12] <nanotube> tldp.org
[08:12] <nanotube> whats wrong with xinerama?
[08:12] <PuppiesOnAcid> Slow
[08:12] <PuppiesOnAcid> And complicated
[08:12] <PuppiesOnAcid> And I'm stupid.
[08:13] <nanotube> hmm ic. :) i only have one monitor, so dont know anything about it. just wondering :)
[08:13] <grexk> PuppiesOnAcid:LOl
[08:13] <BradM> you didn't tell me how to change back!
[08:14] <Den> Where is Real Player for ubuntu?  I looked in Package Manager (adept) searched for real, & video, found nothing. Isn't real player packaged for ubuntu?
[08:14] <grexk> den: try mplayer...
[08:14] <BradM> anyone?
[08:14] <BradM> ctrl+alt+f1 changes me to a terminal
[08:14] <BradM> but how do i get back to my gnome session
[08:14] <nanotube> bradm: just press ctrl-alt-f7
[08:14] <grexk> ctrl+alt+f7
[08:14] <BradM> eh
[08:14] <BradM> ahh
[08:15] <BradM> cool
[08:15] <nanotube> bradm: i did tell you that before :)
[08:15] <nanotube> bradm: you must have missed it...
[08:15] <grexk> bradM:f1,f2,f3,f4,f5,f6 to f12
[08:15] <BradM> i had already pressed ctrl+alt+f1
[08:15] <nanotube> bradm: haha i see. sorry :)
[08:15] <steve_> hey - wondered how 2 enable ssh connections in ubuntu...  looks like nowhere in gnome 2 do...
[08:15] <grexk> nano: but do you other video cards?
[08:16] <steve_> allow for connections to it.
[08:16] <Den> grexk: I think I actually need real player to play some streaming video - do you know if real player is packaged for ub?
[08:16] <nanotube> steve_: you want to connect to the outside, or to allow others to connect to your machine?
[08:16] <BradM> whats that command to use the web..its like 'lynx' or something
[08:16] <grexk> try packages.ubuntu.com
[08:16] <steve_> others to connect to my machine.
[08:16] <nanotube> grexk: i am on a laptop. one vid card, one monitor :)
[08:16] <grexk> ah ok
[08:16] <nanotube> steve_: install the openssh package
[08:17] <steve_> thanks nanotube... i'll check it out.
[08:17] <nanotube> den: there is realplayer but you have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories, i think
[08:17] <nanotube> steve_ have fun :)
[08:17] <grexk> nano: I really love ssh :)
[08:17] <Den> nanotube: thx
[08:17] <nanotube> grexk: yea, me too. its the best thing since... well, since telnet :)
[08:17] <grexk> nanotube: right the universe :)
[08:17] <steve_> ya...i like the idea - not sure about security aspects of ssh - but i'm a geek and want to check out my computer while i'm at work...
[08:18] <grexk> steve: :)
[08:18] <RaydenUni> i have a SATA hard drive that ubunto didn't recognize on install. it just found the ide that it is installed on. how would i go about mounting the SATA driv?
[08:18] <nanotube> steve_ ah cool. well apt-getting the openssh is the easiest way. that will automatically set up ssh for you... and as long as you choose good passwords, its secure
[08:18] <grexk> right
[08:19] <grexk> steve: Have you ever gone to nomachine.com
[08:19] <Cr0w-> i have a problem..sometimes in the console appears this msg ==> [4296944.110000]  Assertion failed! qc->flags & ATA_QCFLAG_ACTIVE,drivers/scsi/libdata-core.c,atapi_packet_task,line=3614, what is that?
[08:19] <steve_> grexk - nope, but will now
[08:19] <nanotube> raydenuni: i have no clue, but i would think if you search "ubuntu sata" on google you will come up with something.
[08:19] <nanotube> grexk: whats that nomachine.com thing?
[08:19] <steve_> nanotube - i love apt-getting. :)  i go get it now. :)
[08:20] <grexk> nano: remote x access
[08:20] <steve_> i like it!
[08:20] <grexk> nano: compared to VNC stuff its more fast
[08:20] <grexk> steve: :)
[08:20] <nanotube> grexk: looks cool.
[08:20] <grexk> yup
[08:20] <BradM> that's leet
[08:20] <nanotube> steve_: you go! :)
[08:21] <BradM> yo nanotube, is there a command to switch back to the gnome session?
[08:21] <BradM> or do you have to use the keyboard
[08:21] <nanotube> grexk: unless you type my full name, your post doesnt show up in red, so its harder to see. not that it matters now since so few people are on...
[08:21] <grexk> and there is freeNX which is OSS version of that product
[08:21] <nanotube> bradm: gotta use ctrl-alt-f1 from console. i dont think there is a command you can type into your terminal to switch virtual terminals (though i may be wrong)
[08:21] <BradM> i think there is chvt
[08:21] <nanotube> bradm: well, ctrl-alt-fX, not just f1 :)
[08:22] <BradM> change vitrual terminal = chvt
[08:22] <BradM> ?
[08:22] <nanotube> hm, well, try it :)
[08:22] <grexk> ctrl+alt+backspace to kill x server @bradM
[08:22] <BradM> psht
[08:22] <RaydenUni> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SATAHowto?highlight=%28sata%29 <-- nooo
[08:22] <RaydenUni> its only in german!
[08:23] <grexk> google.com @raydenUni
[08:23] <BradM> http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/linux/cmd/cmd.csp?path=c/chvt
[08:23] <nanotube> raydenuni: haha. try google "translate this page"
[08:23] <RaydenUni> that's what im using guys
[08:23] <RaydenUni> not much comes up on google
[08:23] <PuMpErNiCkLe> RaydenUni: Use google translator...
[08:23] <steve_> chvt=cool - although the keypress is actually faster.
[08:23] <grexk> howto setup SATA in LINUX @raydenUni
[08:24] <nanotube> bradm: well, there you go. cool, i didnt know about chvt.
[08:24] <grexk> try that key word
[08:24] <BradM> hmm
[08:24] <steve_> but handy if one of the F? keys is fubar
[08:24] <BradM> still isn't working
[08:24] <grexk> steve: did you already visit the site?
[08:24] <triple5> hi folx
[08:24] <nanotube> hmm, i get $ chvt 3
[08:24] <nanotube>  Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console
[08:25] <nanotube> doesnt seem like chvt works...
[08:25] <triple5> could anyone get gnome to remember the window state of firefox and thunderbird?
[08:25] <steve_> grexk - yes i did, it looks pretty groovy.  didn't try the test session yet though.
[08:25] <nanotube> steve_: hehe, if one of the f keys is fubar, just use one of the other 12 :)
[08:25] <nanotube> (well, one of the other 11)
[08:25] <steve_> nanotube: maybe i want 2 run something in every term eh?
[08:26] <nanotube> triple5: when you log out, just click the "save session" checkbox, and should work, afaik.
[08:26] <BradM> haha
[08:26] <BradM> works for me fo sho
[08:26] <nanotube> steve_: heh well, if you are that hard core, then sure :D
[08:26] <RaydenUni> thanks. i found a couple links that should work
[08:26] <steve_> nanotube - hahah well, i've got limited power --- running this on a PII believe it or no
[08:26] <BradM> bbs
[08:27] <grexk> how bout you nano are hardcore :)
[08:27] <grexk> are u*
[08:27] <nanotube> bradm: chvt works for me when i am on a non-graphical console, but when i am on a gnome terminal inside gnome, get that error and no go...
[08:27] <steve_> dito
[08:27] <steve_> i think that makes sense tho
[08:27] <nanotube> grexk: :)
[08:28] <BradM> omgwtfbbq
[08:28] <Gumpo> Hey guys - big time newbie here - I was wondering, the AntSpotLight screensaver is really slow on my system, how do i go about checking to see that i have the latest nVidia drivers?
[08:28] <ITSa341> Can anyone help me with this error message??  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7372
[08:28] <grexk> :) @nano
[08:28] <nanotube> steve_ sure, but what if all your f keys except for f7 are fubar - how do you switch to a non-gui console? :)
[08:28] <BradM> nanotube, is there some kind of mail thing you can set up where my google mail comes to a folder on my computer
[08:28] <nanotube> bradm: yea, gmail offers pop3 service.
[08:28] <steve_> nanotube - boot disk?
[08:28] <nanotube> bradm: you can read their instructions for using it on their help pages
[08:29] <BradM> nanotube, i need to know what to use to set it up
[08:29] <BradM> what program
[08:29] <nanotube> bradm: but basically, just set up thunderbird (or evolution, or any other mail client), to access pop.google.com or something like that.
[08:29] <phreak97_> i cant get bitchx to work, anyone help me?
[08:29] <phreak97_> nothing happens when i try to run it
[08:29] <BradM> nanotube, i want it all terminal based
[08:29] <BradM> no GUI whatsoever
[08:29] <phreak97_> nothing at all
[08:29] <nanotube> steve_ : hehe
[08:29] <grexk> Cool @bradM
[08:29] <nanotube> bradm: well, my fav commandline mail client is pine
[08:29] <BradM> grexk?
[08:30] <BradM> okie
[08:30] <nanotube> bradm: pine is not installed by default on ubuntu, so apt-get it.
[08:30] <BradM> nope
[08:30] <BradM> not found
[08:30] <grexk> I love console when I'm compiling stuff but Im a KDE fanatic ;)
[08:31] <Cr0w-> Gumpo, check the Xorg or Xfree log, where it said (II) Module nvidia ... module version = 1.0.8178 (that is the last driver)
[08:31] <nanotube> hey bradm, so you want not to use gnome or any gui at all?
[08:31] <BradM> neh
[08:31] <nanotube> bradm: in that case, you would want to set linux to boot to console text mode by default, so it doesnt waste any resources on the gui at all.
[08:31] <Gumpo> How do i check the Xorg or Xgree log? (Total Newbie, sorry)
[08:31] <nanotube> bradm: check this link: http://www.redhat.com/docs/manuals/linux/RHL-9-Manual/ref-guide/s1-boot-init-shutdown-sysv.html
[08:31] <steve_> bradm - he wants his OS like he likes his funk - uncut... <parliament>
[08:31] <nanotube> bradm: might differ a bit for ubuntu... but should be similar enough.
[08:32] <Cr0w-> Gumpo, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[08:32] <Gumpo> ok, thanks
[08:32] <Cr0w-> =)
[08:32] <phreak97_> anyone?
[08:32] <phreak97_> who here uses bitchx under ubuntu?
[08:33] <BradM> me
[08:33] <BradM> i do, why?
[08:33] <BradM> sometimes
[08:33] <phreak97_> how'd you install it?
[08:33] <BradM> go to www.bitchx.org
[08:33] <BradM> download it...
[08:33] <grexk> apt-get install bitchx
[08:33] <phreak97_> which one do i download?
[08:33] <moodog> Hi all.
[08:33] <BradM> phreak97_, lets talk in PM
[08:33] <phreak97_> grexk, doesnt work
[08:33] <phreak97_> ok
[08:33] <grexk> or go to packages.ubuntu.com
[08:34] <BradM> grexk, im helping him
[08:34] <grexk> ok
[08:34] <steve_> i'm using x-chat - u think bitchx is mo better?
[08:34] <nanotube> bradm: looks like pine is not in the repos... gotta dl and install it yourself.
[08:34] <BradM> nanotube, i'm already on it
[08:35] <grexk> Do you believe that it is possible to use virtual network in your comp?
[08:35] <nanotube> bradm: ok, cool dude
[08:35] <nevyn> steve_: irssi > *
[08:35] <Gumpo> I can't find anything that shows a release number...
[08:35] <steve_> that is super groovy - bitchx...
[08:35] <BradM> nevyn, actually..bitchx is better
[08:35] <nanotube> steve_ im using xchat too, cuz it came with ubuntu by default...
[08:35] <BradM> because, using windows on bitchx is much easier
[08:36] <nevyn> BradM: the window binding code get's confused after about 20 windows
[08:36] <grexk> windows @BradM
[08:36] <nevyn> I've never had that problem with irssi
[08:37] <linuxboy> whats the username/password in the livecd?
[08:37] <nevyn> ubuntu ubuntu I think
[08:37] <nevyn> actually ubuntu no password?
[08:37] <phreak97_> BradM, pm
[08:38] <triple5> nanotube: I get a message saying that firefox and thunderbird cannot preserve window state and that I have to manually restart them after the next login.
[08:38] <BradM> phreak97_, i PMed you like 20 minutes ago..are you going to answer?
[08:38] <phreak97_> i have
[08:39] <phreak97_> BradM what version of ubuntu do you have
[08:39] <phreak97_> phreak97_ breezy
[08:39] <phreak97_> BradM ?
[08:39] <phreak97_> phreak97_ where do i find out then?
[08:39] <phreak97_> phreak97_ i have ubuntu breezy badger
[08:39] <phreak97_> phreak97_ thats all i know
[08:39] <BradM> okay
[08:39] <BradM> i see
[08:39] <nanotube> triple5: hmm... well, ive got no idea what's up. i dont use "save session" myself... try searching google for it?
[08:39] <linuxboy> nevyn: doesn't work. I'm trying to ssh into the livecd
[08:39] <triple5> no luck nanotube
[08:39] <viviersf> erm
[08:39] <viviersf> is ssh running on the live cd ?
[08:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> triple5: Possibly because they're displaying something with dynamic content?
[08:40] <steve_> ssh into the live cd - that's groovy
[08:40] <Tomcat_> viviersf: Well, one can install it. :)
[08:40] <steve_> linuxoy - u getting an error msg?
[08:40] <viviersf> Tomcat_, not on a liveCD
[08:40] <triple5> PuMpErNiCkLe no, I had both remember their state in kde under Suse and Mandrake, but I don't know why they don't do it in gnome here in ubuntu..
[08:41] <Tomcat_> viviersf: Why not? o_O I'm pretty sure it'll work.
[08:41] <Tomcat_> viviersf: I've installed totem-xine, w32codecs and much more on a LiveCD, why shouldn't it work with the openssh-server? :)
[08:41] <jimbob> hello
[08:41] <nanotube> triple5: hmm... seems that you are out of luck... i looked around on google and it seems that firefox does not support the saving state...
[08:41] <jimbob> where can i find the system requirements ?
[08:42] <grexk> On debian either...
[08:42] <nanotube> triple5: at least not the gnome way.
[08:42] <grexk> firefox does'nt  save its session
[08:42] <linuxboy> does anybody know the default usename/password for the live cd?
[08:42] <steve_> got to rest up for work - night all - thanks 4 enlightening me.
[08:42] <nanotube> hey grexk, steve_, so what timezone are you at? its 2.42 am for me, i'm in EST.
[08:43] <nanotube> laterz steve_
[08:43] <grexk> steve: no problem
[08:43] <Tomcat_> linuxboy: Username is "ubuntu", I think a password is not set so you should do it yourself (passwd)
[08:43] <linuxboy> Tomcat_: the box is remote.
[08:43] <steve_> woah nanotube - u should be in bed! haha.  i'm on west coast but had 2 late nights in a row - plus i've got kidsetc..
[08:43] <ITSa341> HELP  I can't even uninstall via dpkg or apt-get much less install
[08:43] <marcster> what is excel equivalent for ubuntu(linux)?
[08:43] <nanotube> steve_ ah heh ic. well, have fun getting some sleep. im a grad student, got evening classes, so can afford some late night :)
[08:43] <Tomcat_> linuxboy: That's bad ;) I'm not sure if there is a default password.
[08:43] <nevyn> marcster: either openoffice calc or gnumeric
[08:43] <steve_> with kids - if i don't sleep, they shouldn't have 2 pay for it with my grumpiness.
[08:44] <nevyn> marcster: I prefer gnumeric
[08:44] <grexk> marcster: Openoffice
[08:44] <nanotube> marcster: openoffice calc
[08:44] <steve_> nanotube - yup i remember those times. ;)
[08:44] <nanotube> marcster: or gnumeric, like nevyn says
[08:44] <marcster> thanks.
[08:44] <jimbob> i have a notebook, with just floppy disk - no cdrom (its an ultralight), whats the best way to install ?
[08:44] <steve_> 1st time here - i'll swing by again soon. ciao
[08:44] <Tomcat_> jimbob: I heard there's a network install... not sure where though.
[08:44] <nanotube> steve_ haha nice ;) well, i wont hold you up any more, much as i'd like to have more of a chat. :)
[08:44] <grexk> steve: heheh :)
[08:44] <steve_> its been fun, see u next time
[08:45] <grexk> LOL @ nanotube
[08:45] <nanotube> grexk: :)
[08:45] <jabak> hello
[08:45] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hey
[08:45] <grexk> high
[08:45] <jabak> can any one help me with sharing internet connection from one network card to other on ubuntu
[08:45] <nanotube> marcster: but the thing is, openoffice calc comes with default ubuntu install, while you have to get the gnumeric package separately...
[08:46] <nanotube> jabak: try this guide: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-91370.html
[08:47] <jabak> thx
[08:47] <nanotube> jabak: wait, even better, try this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=91370
[08:48] <nanotube> hey grexk, so what about your TZ ?
[08:48] <jim_r> Hi. I want to make openssh-server listen on my eth1 interface, but I'm not sure about the syntax. The manpage does not seem to give any info about this. Could sombody pls tell me if the following syntax is correct? ListenAddress :: eth1
[08:49] <grexk> GMT @nano
[08:49] <grexk> its 3:49pm here :)
[08:49] <BradM> nanotube, have you setup pine to get mail from gmail.com?
[08:51] <nanotube> bradm: no, actually i use gmail's web interface...
[08:51] <Den> What line in /etc/apt/sources.list do I put "multiverse" on - to get real player?  I see "multiverse" on the line with "breezy-backports", but should it bo on another line, like just "breezy", or perhaps "breezy-updates"?
[08:51] <BradM> nanotube, that sucks
[08:51] <nanotube> bradm: hehe, well, i guess so...
[08:52] <nanotube> grexk: haha wow, nice. youve got quite a few hours left in you, then
[08:52] <nanotube> den: dont worry about screwing around in the sources.list. just open up synaptic pkp manager, click settings > repositories
[08:52] <Den> nanotube: then what?
[08:52] <grexk> :)
[08:53] <nanotube> den: then click add button, and on the window that comes up check the universe (and multiverse) packages, then click ok
[08:53] <nanotube> and then click reload (if it does not reload automatically) to refresh pkg list, den
[08:53] <jabak> whats the command to configure an eth0
[08:53] <grexk> brb-taking a break
[08:54] <grexk> jabak: ifconfig
[08:54] <jabak> that just shows the configuration
[08:54] <grexk> man ifconfig
[08:55] <jabak> i did that ! it only showed the configuration
[08:55] <jabak> wait
[08:55] <grexk> <--opinion I really love to read man if I forget cmd, BRB
[08:56] <monzie> anyone here using GNUStep?
[08:56] <nanotube> jim_r: i dont think you can specify interface name... i think have to specify ip address. usually its just "listenaddress x.x.x.x"
[08:56] <nanotube> monzie: not me.
[08:56] <Den> nanotube: I have Package Manager (Adept) installed, not Synaptic.  I see where I can get synaptic.  Is it worth getting synaptic, or is adept ok?
[08:56] <jabak> what  is the command to give admin access to a user
[08:56] <nanotube> den: so you are running kubuntu?
[08:57] <Den> nanotube: yes
[08:57] <nanotube> jabak: run the command with "sudo"
[08:57] <topyli> jabak: sudo
[08:57] <jabak> this enables admin acess for the user when he logs in ?
[08:57] <nanotube> !sudo
[08:57] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[08:57] <grexk> I also love sudo @ nano
[08:57] <nanotube> jabak: read previous line, follow that link.
[08:58] <jabak> thx
[08:58] <nanotube> den: i have never used adept. but i suppose there is no problem with it. i just cannot give you exact instructions, cuz i have not used it.
[08:58] <topyli> jabak: no. "sudo ifconfig" will run the ifconfig command with root privileges
[08:58] <nanotube> den: i guess if you just look through the menus, you will find where to add the repositories.
[08:58] <grexk> whats adept?
[08:58] <jabak> i want to open networking configuration in the graphical mode
[08:58] <nanotube> grexk: its the equivalent of synaptic for kubuntu
[08:58] <phreak97_> hmm, anyone know an alternative to xchat?
[08:58] <jabak> it asks for the network-admin password
[08:58] <grexk> ah ok
[08:58] <jabak> i write it it says its wrong
[08:58] <jabak> i reset the pass to 123
[08:59] <jabak> and put it
[08:59] <phreak97_> i want something more like mirc
[08:59] <jabak> it still says that its a wrong password
[08:59] <nanotube> jabak: it asks for password, enter your own user password!
[08:59] <topyli> jabak: it's asking for your password
[08:59] <nanotube> jabak: then it will work!
[08:59] <monzie> anyone here  using windowmaker?
[08:59] <jabak> hrm
[08:59] <jabak> it didnt work before
[08:59] <jabak> let me reset my own pass
[08:59] <eclair> monzie, what about windowmaker?
[09:00] <nanotube> well dudes, grexk, im gonna head to bed. time to get me some sleep :)
[09:00] <monzie> do you use it eclair?
[09:01] <eclair> monzie, every once in a while. sometimes i use xfce
[09:01] <grexk> ok @nano
[09:01] <topyli> jabak: please read the link ubotu just gave you above. stop breaking stuff until you have read it :)
[09:01] <grexk> have a nice slepp@nano :)
[09:01] <grexk> sleep*
[09:01] <nanotube> will do, grexk. have a nice... afternoon :)
[09:02] <grexk> :)
[09:04] <grexk> gtg guys
[09:04] <weston> having trouble disabling ipv6, anyone know how to do it?
[09:06] <monzie> anyone using window maker here?
[09:06] <monzie> i need help
[09:06] <eclair> monzie, what's up?
[09:06] <topyli> weston: for firefox or globally?
[09:07] <eclair> monzie, am not using it right now because i am on another unit but i have been tinkering with it
[09:07] <monzie> just installed window maker and gnustep via synaptic
[09:07] <monzie> none of the buttons seem to work eclair
[09:07] <eclair> really?
[09:07] <eclair> monzie, the icons don't work?
[09:07] <monzie> no
[09:07] <eclair> monzie, right clicking doesn't work either?
[09:08] <monzie> yeah, right click works
[09:09] <monzie> doesn't windowmaker have some transparency effects?
[09:09] <monzie> and where is GNUstep, doesn't seem to be visible?
[09:10] <kestas> say you have two groups and you want to give those two groups the same access to folder, without creating a new group, how do you do it?
[09:12] <phreak97_> might try getting konversation going
[09:12] <Juchipilo> hello, i got the following error when i start synaptic.
[09:12] <Juchipilo> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[09:12] <phreak97_> even though im not using kde
[09:12] <phreak97_> it still works
[09:12] <Juchipilo> has anybody seen that?
[09:12] <phreak97_> but i cant be bothered now
[09:14] <weston> topyl, globally would be good, but I'll take the firefox answers also
[09:16] <weston> topyli, how do I do it in firefox?
[09:17] <HypnotiQBen84> Give me 3 reasons I should use Ubuntu...anyone.
[09:17] <topyli> weston: type acout:config as the address, then search for ipv6
[09:18] <kafnetti> How do I get mplayer? It is no longer in synaptic :/
[09:18] <weston> search appears broken, finds nothing no matter what I type 0_0
[09:18] <topyli> weston: that is, type ipv6 as the filter
[09:18] <Arkady> Hello! I'm having some trouble with partitioning when installing Ubuntu. Could someone please help me out?
[09:18] <weston> don't suppose you know the full property name?
[09:18] <binary777> no reason!!but your hobby
[09:19] <topyli> weston: network.dns.disableIPv6 (i'm just looking at it :)
[09:19] <weston> ahh, thnx
[09:19] <weston> wow, problem is gone, thats great
[09:19] <HypnotiQBen84> Wha?!
[09:19] <topyli> weston: i forget which file handles it globally but it's there
[09:20] <weston> I think I'll still run into problems with other networked apps though..
[09:20] <bobulooo> Does anyone know why an apt-get install eclipse-jdt throws an "unment dependencies' error at me (depends on eclipse-platform, which is also avaiable to install, but gets a similar unmet dependency error)
[09:20] <HypnotiQBen84> Ur distro is broken.
[09:20] <weston> /etc/modprobe.conf should do it I read, but got no effect from that. I also heard that modifying /etc/modutils/aliases would do the trick, but that file doesn't exist here
[09:21] <kafnetti> How do I get mplayer? It is no longer in synaptic :/
[09:21] <HypnotiQBen84> Ask Jesus.
[09:21] <HypnotiQBen84> lol j/k :P
[09:22] <topyli> weston: be sure to find debian or ubuntu specific instructions. distros differ a lot in this area
[09:22] <kafnetti> He would just get nailed on the cross and die like usually
[09:22] <weston> yeah, that was ubuntu specific, but it must have been for an old version
[09:22] <puppiesonacid> What plugin do I need for m4a files?
[09:22] <Arkady> If I format the file system for ubuntu on one drive as whatever file system it uses, will I be able to use it as a file server for windows later on(NTFS or FAT32 file systems on other drives connected on that same computer)?
[09:22] <HypnotiQBen84> Quicktime
[09:22] <topyli> weston: not necessarily. you just don't have any aliases and thus no file. you could always create it
[09:22] <puppiesonacid> m4a audio files
[09:23] <weston> oh
[09:23] <HypnotiQBen84> Quicktime
[09:23] <weston> I'll try that
[09:23] <puppiesonacid> What is the quicktime plugin package called?
[09:23] <HypnotiQBen84> Quicktime :P
[09:23] <monzie> can anyone please tell me how to configure windowmaker
[09:24] <HypnotiQBen84> or WInamp
[09:24] <HypnotiQBen84> Winamp does m4a files
[09:25] <puppiesonacid> So I installed libquicktime
[09:25] <puppiesonacid> Still can't play the m4a
[09:25] <HypnotiQBen84> Oh I know!!
[09:25] <HypnotiQBen84> It jsut cam eto me
[09:25] <puppiesonacid> ok??
[09:26] <puppiesonacid> Let's hear it.
[09:26] <HypnotiQBen84> Google. :D (just don't search fo ranything X-rated...th egov is hot on their tails
[09:26] <HypnotiQBen84> Sorry i dunno the package you need
[09:26] <HypnotiQBen84> wish i could be of more service
[09:27] <HypnotiQBen84> Whats th efemale to male ration in IT fields?
[09:27] <HypnotiQBen84> ratio*
[09:27] <Juchipilo> I got the following error : dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.       has anybody gone through the same?
[09:27] <kafnetti> 0 to 10000
[09:28] <binary777> man
[09:28] <topyli> puppiesonacid: the quicktime codec should come with w32codecs. for gstreamer, perhaps the ffmpeg plugin handles it
[09:28] <scanwinder> whats the best way to have media plugins in opera? that will play wmv and such
[09:29] <weston> thanks topyli
[09:30] <guruff> hey :)
[09:31] <malv> wmv 9?
[09:31] <guruff> could anyone please check what are libraries required to install mplayer package ? thankyou
[09:31] <muaddib_> hi every body
[09:31] <scanwinder> malv: was that question for me?
[09:32] <muaddib_> I've some problem with usb-memory
[09:32] <malv> in general
[09:32] <malv> does it exist
[09:32] <muaddib_> icon was appear but not usable
[09:32] <PuMpErNiCkLe> !w32codecs
[09:32] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[09:33] <PuMpErNiCkLe> guruff: I'll PM them to you.
[09:33] <malv> w32codecs can do wmv9?
[09:33] <muaddib_> pmount is not exectable !?
[09:33] <guruff> PuMpErNiCkLe; would be great thanks :)
[09:33] <muaddib_> Do you know this problem ?
[09:34] <mzinz> After I install a gDesklet item I can't get them to work.. any idea why?  I get an error when I try to open them
[09:36] <Toma-> HypnotiQBen84, are u a troll?
[09:36] <Toma-> mzinz, what error?
[09:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> guruff: Did you get that?
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> muaddib_: sudo chmod +x /usr/bin/pmount might help, although why it isn't executable is beyond me O_o
[09:37] <plett> #
[09:37] <guruff> PuMpErNiCkLe; yes, thankyou :)
[09:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> guruff: np :)
[09:38] <muaddib_> PuMpErNiCkLe, tks, I'm going to try this !
[09:39] <muaddib_> PuMpErNiCkLe, I found the problem
[09:39] <PuMpErNiCkLe> muaddib_: ^_^
[09:39] <muaddib_> see : -rwsr-xr--  1 root plugdev 28K 2006-01-11 13:40 /usr/bin/pmount
[09:40] <muaddib_> I must be in plugdev group !
[09:41] <PuMpErNiCkLe> muaddib_: spiffy :)
[09:41] <mzinz> Toma-, Runtime error, [path to the desklets dir] 
[09:41] <Toma-> mzinz, thats all?
[09:43] <mzinz> Toma-, An error occured when executing a desklet.  then it shows 16 lines of code with one highlighted: >  42                 filename = tbs[-1] [0] 
[09:43] <muaddib_> PuMpErNiCkLe, spiffy ???
[09:43] <muaddib_> PuMpErNiCkLe, what mean spiffy ???
[09:44] <mzinz> i have been dragging their .tar.gz packages onto the Desklets window.
[09:45] <Toma-> mzinz, have u got the right version of gdesklets + applet?
[09:45] <Toma-> sometimes they can conflict...
[09:46] <mzinz> Toma-, its the one from Synaptic package mngr
[09:46] <fli7e> does anyone know of a linux equivalent to Mac OS-X's "RSS Visualizer" screensaver?
[09:46] <Toma-> fli7e, you might wanna start by asking if anyone knows what it is... and a link to what it is for those of us that dont know
[09:47] <Toma-> mzinz, and what applet?
[09:48] <mzinz> Toma-, CPUTemp just shows a ? when it opens, netload gets the error, CPUload gets the error
[09:48] <fli7e> Toma-, http://images.google.com/images?q=rss+visualizer <-- screenshots of rss visualizer. it's a screensaver that, well, visualizes rss feeds.
[09:49] <Toma-> mzinz, youll have to read the documentation for that specific desklet, as it will probably need lm-sensors
[09:50] <Toma-> fli7e, no idea.... looks cool tho
[09:51] <FlannelKing> Hey guys, for some reason I can't seem to successfully log into ubuntu from a windows box using cygwin (via xwin).  I get to the main screen, log in correctly, then I just get a brown screen (where I used to get the whole logging in/starting everything/etc).  Any ideas?
[09:52] <Romeyo> hie.. i need a small help
[09:53] <nbound> ask my son... and you shall receive ;)
[09:53] <Romeyo> thanks..
[09:53] <Romeyo> i have sis190 ethernet card..
[09:53] <Romeyo> but ubuntu is not detecting it.. so i downloaded a .c file for it from the motherboard site.. now where to find the kernel source?
[09:54] <Romeyo> i searched in /usr/src/ n found nothing
[09:54] <nbound> dload it from synaptic...
[09:54] <nevyn> Romeyo: is this a very new card?
[09:54] <nbound> and dload "build-essential" u'll need it :)
[09:54] <Toma-> fli7e, might not be as elaborate, but it will work... http://oracle.2question.com/rss/linuxScr.php
[09:54] <braxis> If I'm missing alot of common headers what package do I need
[09:54] <nevyn> nbound: he shouldn't need to build a driver for that card....
[09:55] <Romeyo> nevyn i dunno its new or old.. :(
[09:55] <Toma-> braxis, common headers?
[09:55] <braxis> Yeah
[09:55] <braxis> time.h
[09:55] <braxis> string.h
[09:55] <Toma-> eg?
[09:55] <Toma-> braxis, kernel headers?
[09:55] <nevyn> Romeyo: what's lspci say about it?
[09:55] <nbound> nevyn, yeah your right
[09:55] <braxis> Not kernel headers
[09:56] <grayman__> wait so theres really a new area?
[09:56] <Romeyo> 0000:00:04.0 Ethernet controller: Silicon Integrated Systems [SiS] : Unknown device 0190
[09:56] <grayman__> omg
[09:56] <grayman__> miss
[09:57] <mzinz> Toma-, it says to run a file called CPUTemp.display, but I can't run it nomatter what i do. what am i doing wrong?
[09:57] <tonyyarusso> What do I do if something opened a window that's taller than the screen, and I need to get at the bottom part of it?
[09:57] <nevyn> Romeyo: what's the file you downloaded from sis called?
[09:57] <Romeyo> sis190.c
[09:57] <nevyn> Romeyo: it's probably just a pci-id patch and file rename
[09:57] <nevyn> hrm
[09:57] <nevyn> maybe not
[09:57] <Toma-> mzinz, is it executable?
[09:57] <Romeyo> no
[09:58] <mzinz> Toma-, im not sure, its grey in term
[09:58] <Romeyo> it have a readme.txt file..
[09:58] <nevyn> Romeyo: ok I have that driver..
[09:58] <nevyn> look in /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net
[09:58] <Toma-> mzinz, run 'file CPUTemp.display' tell me what it returns
[09:58] <nevyn> or just try modprobe sis190
[09:59] <fredl> dang, I bought a new laptop yesterday...
[09:59] <fredl> I love Ubuntu on new laptops
[09:59] <fredl> it workz! )
[09:59] <fredl> well
[09:59] <nevyn> I got ubuntu onto this thing but it was a pita
[09:59] <Romeyo> /lib/modules/`uname -r`/kernel/drivers/net <-- how to get into here? am kinda new to linux :) i tried fedora earlier n felt better with ubuntu
[09:59] <fredl> maybe theres that issue about my PORTUGUESE keybord P
[10:00] <nevyn> Romeyo: just run "sudo modprobe sis190"
[10:00] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: hold down alt grab the window and move it.
[10:00] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: or maybe meta (windows)
[10:00] <fredl> I can't believe I bought a laptop with a portuguese keyboard
[10:00] <Romeyo> ok nevyn.. brb.. will reboot and do that thing :)
[10:00] <mzinz> Toma-, XML text document display
[10:00] <fredl> no wonder it was so cheap
[10:00] <Toma-> mzinz, well you cant execute it then
[10:00] <nevyn> fredl: I had to use dapper in the end
[10:01] <Toma-> mzinz, drag it into gdesklets and try double clicking it there
[10:01] <tonyyarusso> nevyn: No such thing as a Windows key on here :)  Alt did it though; thanks.
[10:01] <ompaul> fredl all you have to do is map it to whatever language you want and use tippex :-)
[10:01] <fredl> dapper ? what's that?
[10:01] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: I generally prefer old 101 keyboards myself
[10:01] <ompaul> !dapper
[10:01] <ubotu> [dapper]  The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[10:01] <fredl> heh
[10:01] <saif> hello
[10:01] <virogenesis> Hi I'm trying to get my webcam its a (ov518) working with breezy I've tried using easycam but it doesn't seem to do anything and I've also tried doing it manually but failed infact I did about 5 reinstalls yesterday and no luck I have had my cam working with easycam before but the old version will anyone be kind enough to help me cheers
[10:02] <mzinz> Toma-, nope
[10:02] <nevyn> but I must say I'm most impressed
[10:02] <ompaul> fredl, or to put it another way, use it if you are a GNU developer :)
[10:02] <saif> i installed ubuntu on my laptop ( toshiba sa30-303) everything is running fine, except the power stuff
[10:02] <fredl> hmm webcam... I have one of those too....
[10:02] <Toma-> mzinz, well im out of ideas :/
[10:02] <fredl> I wonder if I should try using it....
[10:02] <mzinz> Toma-, np
[10:03] <nevyn> ompaul: or just like to be on the bleeding edge :)
[10:03] <virogenesis> quality of mine was as good as windows if not better when i was using mine
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> nevyn: I don't really know what this one is.  I think it detects (and works with the settings for) 104, but if I actually count the keys I think it's 87.
[10:03] <fredl> anybody know if those logitech webcams work without a problem on a fresh breezy install?
[10:03] <KeithWeisshar> what causes errors during installation
[10:03] <ompaul> nevyn, na you fall you get cut that is why they call it bleeding :-)
[10:03] <fredl> like, the really cheesy cheapo models
[10:03] <saif> how do i make it suspend when i close the lid?? or hibernate when battery low?? it is reading the battery charge correctly and the event of the lid is being sent, coz i tested it with gnome-power-something
[10:03] <nevyn> ompaul: some people like that
[10:03] <KeithWeisshar> i'm having trouble installing from the ubuntu dvd
[10:04] <ompaul> nevyn, I have run debian unstable and experimental but that is another story
[10:04] <KeithWeisshar> sometimes it stops in the middle and an error occurs a minute later
[10:04] <nevyn> ompaul: you think it breaks less than ubuntu unstable or more?
[10:04] <KeithWeisshar> it was burned and verified
[10:04] <KeithWeisshar> with nero express 6
[10:04] <virogenesis> pro 4000 does i believe i know the 5000 isn't supported like the 4000 i think logitech quickcams are not sure i'd have to check up fredl
[10:04] <KeithWeisshar> the iso was downloaded with bittorrent
[10:05] <nevyn> ompaul: the options were dapper or go to linux.conf.au running XP and that would have got me lynched ;)
[10:05] <fredl> virogenesis - well lemme just get the thing and see what it says, I haven used it for ages!
[10:05] <ompaul> nevyn, ahhh now there is something, that is a reason for running it
[10:05] <KeithWeisshar> what causes random errors while installing from the ubuntu dvd
[10:06] <FlannelKing> anyone know whats going on during the time that the little 'loading' screen comes up after you log in (before the desktop shows?)
[10:07] <fredl> hmm I plugged in the quickcam in the USB port but nothing happened
[10:07] <saif> FlannelKing,  not that much of a linux geek but a lot of things happen, all the modules are loaded, servers started and so on
[10:07] <ompaul> nevyn, considering that in October it was SID but is getting to Ubuntu stable then the path starts out rocky and then turns into stable
[10:08] <nevyn> ompaul: they have sync's still
[10:08] <FlannelKing> saif, no  I meant process wise, am trying to track down why its not loading correctly.
[10:08] <ompaul> nevyn, that time and curve of smoothing things over is not at all like deb
[10:08] <nevyn> ompaul: eg... I think they've been syncing X
[10:08] <ompaul> nevyn, they have
[10:08] <virogenesis> fredl,  go to system -> admin -> device manager
[10:08] <fredl> doesnt even say anything in dmesg when I hook up the cam
[10:08] <saif> FlannelKing, sorry can't help u there! :)
[10:08] <fredl> ok hang on
[10:09] <saif> FlannelKing, what is not loading correctly?!
[10:09] <ompaul> nevyn, xubuntu got a commit yesterday as did (not on the x subject) tonnes of Ubuntu
[10:09] <saif> FlannelKing, what error do u get? what fails?! or does it hang?!
[10:09] <ompaul> nevyn, tonnes of zope (doh)
[10:09] <fredl> so what shoud I look for virogenesis?
[10:09] <FlannelKing> saif yeah, it just hangs.  I log in and I just get a brown screen, the little window for all the 'this is what we're currently loading' stuff never comes up.
[10:10] <miki> hello
[10:10] <ordinary> hi
[10:10] <miki> i got few problems :(
[10:10] <miki> first i cant make floppy to work
[10:10] <nevyn> ompaul: I'm very impressed with the hardware support aspect.. wifi works...
[10:10] <miki> says invalid file type or smth like that when using natuilus
[10:10] <nevyn> X needed to be hand configured tho
[10:10] <miki> and just wont read from command line
[10:10] <saif> FlannelKing, good luck! :) my problem is simple i only want my laptop to hibernate when the battery is 5%
[10:10] <ompaul> miki put them all on one line with the make of machine and the version of software
[10:10] <nevyn> ompaul: is there a place somewhere in the wiki for install reports
[10:10] <dJOEk_> whoa
[10:10] <nevyn> ?
[10:11] <dJOEk_> sup!
[10:11] <dJOEk_> is there a recent firefox package for ubuntu in the repos?
[10:11] <spacey> miki, you need to mount floppies
[10:11] <ompaul> nevyn, there is something let me look
[10:11] <Romeyo> am back..
[10:11] <ompaul> !yes
[10:11] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, ompaul?
[10:11] <virogenesis> just thinkinh
[10:11] <ordinary> I need to create a reproduction of an article using this ubuntu computer by 5 am, which is 50 minutes from now, and I need assistance in finding the right program... please help me.
[10:11] <fredl> virogenesis - lemme hook up my mp3 player to see if the USB port works at al :)
[10:11] <virogenesis> yeah
[10:11] <miki> yes, i am trying to mount and it says either invalid file system(or something like that) or just wont find floppy under terminal... cdrom works fine tho
[10:12] <nevyn> ompaul: I find navigation of ubuntu's systems less straightforward than debian but it may just be what I'm used to
[10:12] <Romeyo> nevyn, it says Module not found ..
[10:12] <nevyn> Romeyo: :(
[10:12] <Romeyo> nevyn, what to do now?
[10:12] <Romeyo> i have to reboot to come to windows to come here :D multiboot..
[10:13] <nevyn> Romeyo: downloading and installing a newer kernel would be better than building from scratch
[10:13] <nevyn> in my opinion
[10:13] <ordinary> omg
[10:13] <fredl> thats  peculiar, one USB port the MP3 player lights up... and the other one it doesnt
[10:13] <ordinary> synaptic crashed
[10:13] <nevyn> building a kernel is while doable not a simple undertaking any longer
[10:13] <Romeyo> nevyn ok i will do that.. i have to do any changes in ubuntu? becoz i can't find the old kernel for my ubuntu
[10:13] <ordinary> one of my critical programs crashed
[10:13] <ompaul> nevyn, http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/dapper-changes is for the software updates and there is something during an install of "let us know your hardware" ther is something on the wiki but I have not had a coffee yet - trying to ween self off that stuff
[10:13] <ordinary> twice
[10:14] <nevyn> heh
[10:14] <Romeyo> nevyn i did rebuild of kernel twice in fedora 2
[10:14] <hai> hello!
[10:14] <Romeyo> with the help of a tutorial
[10:14] <Romeyo> but the saddest part is kernel 2.6.15 also don't have support for that and i have included this sis190 as a module
[10:15] <hai> i have a quick question: i inserted a DVD into my CD drive.  how do i remove it with dapper drake?
[10:15] <hai> it doesn't come out when i physically press the OPEN button on the drive.
[10:16] <Romeyo> guide me in finding the old kernel files which used to install breeze badger
[10:17] <Romeyo> am using amd64 version :)
[10:17] <hai> how do i eject a DVD in dapper drake?
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> I don't get it.  I got the ati drivers from their site, and xscreensaver still says FPS: 86, while other people seem to have much higher.  (Radeon X300)
[10:19] <hai> hello? = (
[10:19] <ompaul> hai, one or two CD/DVD drives? just try the command eject
[10:19] <hai> ah. thank you very much.
[10:19] <Esco> hello
[10:20] <Romeyo> where to find the kernel source files? mine is 2.6.12-9-amd64-generic
[10:20] <hai> sorry for that stupid question, i am new to the command line.
[10:20] <ompaul> hai, there are 600 here some watching some asking some lurking please give it a few minutes to get an answer those who help are volunteers
[10:21] <Esco> I have a question
[10:21] <ompaul> hai, its not a stupid question, you don't know you ask but at least give others a chance to answer :-)
[10:21] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:21] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[10:21] <Esco> now im using ubuntu but i dont find emacs
[10:21] <Esco> can someone help me, please?
[10:21] <ompaul> Esco, sudo apt-get install emacs
[10:21] <hai> thank you and i apologize for my behavior.
[10:22] <ompaul> or is it X emacs you want
[10:22] <Romeyo> am sorry?
[10:22] <Esco> no emacs
[10:22] <ompaul> hai, again you did not know, so don't beat yourself up over it :-) and welcome to the world of fun
[10:22] <agent_bob> what is this boot message " * Setting disc parameters... "  ???
[10:22] <tonyyarusso> Should X300 be supported by the ATI drivers?  (It's new)  Why aren't I getting better framerates?
[10:22] <fredl> the world of fun?
[10:23] <FlannelKing> anyone have documentation on what can go wrong with using "sudo nautilus"?
[10:24] <fredl> hello adnans
[10:24] <Esco> when i typ sudo apt-get install emacs he say the paket is to old
[10:24] <adnans> hi
[10:24] <Esco> what is it?
[10:24] <agent_bob> documentation   no   but you end up with a file in $HOME/* owned by root FlannelKing
[10:24] <fredl> how come ur on showcase?
[10:24] <Romeyo> hi.. could someone please help me?
[10:24] <fredl> guest at surf?
[10:24] <ompaul> Esco, do this >>do apt-get install emacs21<< my mistake
[10:25] <adnans> fredl, yep, working here for a few days :)
[10:25] <Esco> ok please wait
[10:25] <ompaul> fredl, GNU/Linux command line antics
[10:26] <fredl> adnans - anything interesting? are you on the wireless net?
[10:26] <ompaul> FlannelKing, what is it you want to do?
[10:26] <Esco> syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[10:26] <Romeyo> fredl, where can i find the kernel source? i have to recompile my kernel as my network card is not supported
[10:26] <ompaul> Esco, what version of Ubuntu are you using?
[10:26] <adnans> fredl, no wireless (haven't bothered figuring it out), but interesting stuff yeah :)
[10:27] <Esco> mom
[10:27] <boredom> hey everyone, i was wondering how i can update from hoary to breezy??
[10:27] <Esco> s 5.04
[10:27] <Esco> oh sorry v 5.04
[10:27] <fredl> hmm I'm the coder of usertracking, that's why I asked adnan
[10:27] <ompaul> Esco, I don't need moment by moment feedback I will wait a reasonable amount of time anyway just do this "ompaul ...." at the start of the line
[10:28] <tonyyarusso> !tell boredom about breezy
[10:28] <Esco> ok i take it
[10:28] <adnans> fredl, cool. I tried it the first day but my wireless will not lock onto any SURFnet access point
[10:28] <ompaul> Esco, please paste the contents of /etc/apt/sources.list in paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:28] <fredl> adnans you have to use 802.1x
[10:29] <tonyyarusso> Romeyo, package names beginning with linux-source.
[10:29] <adnans> freld, I'm the main coder for videotheek and kvp
[10:29] <fredl> adnans - EAP TTLS to be more specific
[10:29] <ompaul> Esco, did you know there is a more up to date version? it was released in October last year, the version you have is from april :-)
[10:29] <Romeyo> tonyyarusso, i am using the latest breezy..
[10:29] <Esco> ompaul i dont understand what you mean
[10:29] <ompaul> Esco, there is a version 5.10
[10:29] <Esco> ohh
[10:29] <Esco> ok
[10:30] <adnans> fredl, ubuntu friendly? if you have a setup instructions I'll gladly try them later on
[10:30] <fredl> adnans - what are those? any URL to show?
[10:30] <Esco> who can i update my version?
[10:30] <ompaul> !update
[10:30] <ubotu> ompaul: I don't know
[10:30] <ompaul> !breezy
[10:30] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[10:30] <ompaul> Esco, ^^^^^6
[10:30] <tonyyarusso> Romeyo, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12
[10:30] <n3wbi3> hi! m a new convert to ubuntu. i need an easy-to-install, easy-to-use fax program that could "print to fax" pls help
[10:30] <ompaul> Esco, please paste that file into the pastebin for me as I requested
[10:30] <fredl> adnans - EAP TTLS is kinda hard to get going on Linux I think.
[10:30] <agent_bob> is it possable to down grade to warty ?
[10:30] <ompaul> Esco, before you try updating
[10:31] <FlannelKing> ompaul, fix my XDMCP connection into gnome.
[10:31] <adnans> fredl, that's why I haven't bothered :)
[10:31] <ompaul> agent_bob, not that I am aware of, why would you want to
[10:31] <Esco> Why?
[10:31] <agent_bob> for the older version
[10:31] <meinaeiner> try to compile/link a prog. but no succes. can anyone compile it for me ?
[10:31] <Romeyo> tonyyarusso: but my network card is not detected.. so only i need to recompile... :( apt-get will work without net connection?
[10:31] <upayavir1> after upgrading hoary->breezy, my pc doesn't resume from hibernate. I can get in via SSH, but screen hangs with a screensaver like screen. What can I do to debug?
[10:31] <tonyyarusso> n3wbi3, I think OpenOffice can do print to fax, plus there's gfax, efax, and kfax, among others.  Try apt-cache search fax.
[10:31] <ompaul> agent_bob, in april there will be no more support for warty seems like a _bad_ move tm
[10:32] <tonyyarusso> Romeyo, Should be able to, with the CD.
[10:32] <JoeBlow> anyone seen Kameron on here lately?
[10:32] <Adross> i just supported foresight linux, and, in adding a bootloader, it messed something up. Now, when i try to boot into ubuntu(which is on /dev/sda6), i got the error of an 'unsupported executable format'
[10:32] <Romeyo> tonyyarusso thanks a lot :) i will try this now :)
[10:32] <ompaul> Esco, you have an error in trying to get emacs that should not be the case and I would like to see the contents of that file - it also may help in an upgrade situation
[10:32] <ompaul> Esco, I may see why you got the error
[10:32] <agent_bob> there is support for warty now ??????  O,o
[10:32] <ubuntu> !tell me about ntfs
[10:33] <tonyyarusso> meinaeiner, Can you describe what goes wrong?
[10:33] <Esco> ok ompaul so what i have to do?
[10:33] <ompaul> agent_bob, only for Security updates
[10:33] <Esco> sorry im an nebie
[10:33] <Esco> newbie
[10:34] <rikai-2> gmail added a delete button o/~
[10:34] <ompaul> Esco, you don't need to explain everything, it is pretty much cool,you ask a question and someone here will answer if they have the answer
[10:34] <n3wbi3> tonyyarusso:  i actually tried installing efax but failed
[10:34] <meinaeiner> tonyyarusso: hydra.o: In function `hydra_spawn_arm':
[10:34] <meinaeiner> hydra.c:(.text+0x1402): undefined reference to `service_smbnt'
[10:34] <tonyyarusso> n3wbi3, How come?
[10:35] <JoeBlow> Esco, you come from Newbali? I come from America
[10:35] <Esco> no i came from germany
[10:35] <JoeBlow> Esco, no kidding, thats where i live now
[10:35] <JoeBlow> Esco, where are you at?
[10:35] <n3wbi3> tonyyarusso: i cant follow the highly technicak instrctions
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> meinaeiner, Well at least it's not one of the really common issues.
[10:35] <agent_bob> hehhe i've never had ubuntu installed more than three days at a run,  so why would i bother with updates ?      but i thought i might find an old enough release to keep.   (yes that's a half baked idea.  the distro is too new.)
[10:35] <tonyyarusso> n3wbi3, Such as?
[10:36] <Esco> at home
[10:36] <ompaul> agent_bob, just for you, debian stable
[10:36] <JoeBlow> Esco, Ich bin neban Beilefeld, NRW
[10:36] <agent_bob> yessir.   now you're talking.
[10:36] <Esco> ahh ich komme aus mainz rheinland pfalz
[10:36] <maurice-petolat> hello
[10:37] <Esco> Joeblow ich bruchte emacs.....aber finde es nicht
[10:37] <maurice-petolat> i am french
[10:37] <JoeBlow> Esco, was ist emacs?
[10:37] <JoeBlow> Esco, ist das macintosh?
[10:37] <agent_bob> but they wont let me in the debian channel with IRC-USER=root .....
[10:37] <JoeBlow> Esco, oder vas`
[10:37] <ompaul> Esco, in a new terminal type cat /etc/apt/sources.list then copy the highlight the contents of that screen with a left click and then with a right click choose copy, in a web browser if clicking on this link does not work http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org and there with a right click choose to paste the contents you will get a new url after you submit tell me about it
[10:38] <maurice-petolat> hello
[10:38] <ompaul> JoeBlow, moment bitte !de :-)
[10:39] <JoeBlow> ompaul, come on ompaul, you know i speak English, lol, just having some fun
[10:39] <tonyyarusso> maurice-petolat, Hi!  You're either welcome to stay in here if you would like to use English, or if you would prefer to discuss in French, check out #ubuntu-fr.
[10:39] <maurice-petolat> merci
[10:39] <meinaeiner> tonyyarusso: I looked in source an found this : #ifdef LIBOPENSSL
[10:39] <meinaeiner> .... you know what ist missing ?
[10:39] <JoeBlow> Esco, so whats emacs?
[10:40] <upayavir1> how can I debug a failing resume after hibernate in Breezy?
[10:40] <tonyyarusso> meinaeiner, Unfortunately, no.
[10:40] <JoeBlow> !beer
[10:40] <JoeBlow> German beer that is!
[10:40] <JoeBlow> yea!
[10:40] <ompaul> ein koopie bitte
[10:40] <Esco> ja ok warte
[10:41] <meinaeiner> tonyyarusso: thx anyway
[10:41] <agent_bob> :)
[10:41] <Adross> what is the path of the latest ubuntu kernal on a default install?
[10:42] <JoeBlow> Esco, aber, ich bin nicht deutsch, meine Frau ist, also ich lebe im deutschland, aber ich habe nur 4 monate deutsch gesprochen
[10:42] <Adross> or rather, what is the grub entry of ubuntu?
[10:42] <Esco> ja ist kein problem
[10:42] <agent_bob> lilo -I `sed -e  's/.*BOOT_IMAGE=\([^ ] *\).*/\1/;' /proc/cmdline`
[10:43] <Esco> ompaul it doesnt work
[10:43] <JoeBlow> Esco, Ich habe jetzt ein Deutsch lernen visum, aber ich brauchte ein arbeits visum
[10:44] <tonyyarusso> Can a grub entry specify runlevel?
[10:44] <JoeBlow> Esco, aber ich glaube wir mussen English sprachen, alles leute heir findet deutsch nicht gut
[10:44] <JoeBlow> Esco, for fraggen oder so
[10:44] <JoeBlow> Esco, vor*
[10:45] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso sure
[10:45] <Esco> what does it mean vor*
[10:45] <JoeBlow> Esco, as in for in english
[10:45] <JoeBlow> Esco, like i said, i hve only about 4 months speaching german
[10:45] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, How?
[10:45] <phreak97_> how can i add 7-zip support to archiver/
[10:45] <phreak97_> ?
[10:46] <agent_bob> that "was"  the whole idea behind runlevels.     append='3'
[10:46] <Esco> but your german is good for 4 month
[10:46] <JoeBlow> Esco, well everyday, i can only speak german, I can only speak english with my wife
[10:46] <ompaul> Esco, it works, your just not understanding me, as I can't explain it any better
[10:46] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso the last arg sent to the kernel if it is a number is runlevel
[10:47] <Esco> ok ompaul i thank for your help
[10:47] <adusei16> does anybody knows how to get limewire on linux?
[10:47] <Esco> now im searching the internet for more halp thanks
[10:47] <JoeBlow> adusei16, try amule, i like it alot better
[10:47] <Esco> joeblow were are you coming from america
[10:47] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, So I could have a line like '/vmlinuz-2.6.12-10-686 root=/dev/sda5 ro pci=noacpi acpi_sleep=s3_bios resume=/dev/sda7 vga=0x318 quiet 3', to start in runlevel 3?
[10:48] <ompaul> Esco, have you altered your sources.list at all?
[10:48] <agent_bob> yep
[10:48] <JoeBlow> Esco, Texas, big change
[10:48] <jsheppard> i usually download limewire from their site
[10:48] <adusei16> thanks
[10:48] <JoeBlow> jsheppard, is their a linux version?
[10:48] <Esco> ompaul, thank you but i dont understand you sorry
[10:48] <jsheppard> yepper
[10:48] <sentinel> Hi, noone's answering in #apache so I thought i'd ask here in case someone knew. Is it possible to make the Apache2 UserDir module not use the default users home directory (such as /home/users/blag) for a virtual hostname, but instead to use a separate directory (such as /home/virtual/somedomain/blag)?
[10:48] <JoeBlow> Esco, vas hat er gesagt?
[10:49] <dibblego> when I use the 'Add Applications' window, I cannot see a SSH daemon, such as OpenSSH - please guide this lost noob to a SSHd
[10:49] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso 0 is power down  6 is reboot  by default   and 1 is single.   that can of coures be changed also.
[10:49] <ompaul> sentinel, the config files should allow you specify where the document root is
[10:49] <JoeBlow> Esco, and die fragge? emacs oder vas?
[10:49] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, Right, I knew those ones, just wondering about ways to get to 2-5 directly.
[10:49] <Esco> joeblow ,texas vs. germany a very big change
[10:49] <ompaul> JoeBlow, oder gedit / nano
[10:49] <Esco> i need emacs
[10:50] <agent_bob> that's how. tonyyarusso
[10:50] <JoeBlow> ompaul, fur festplatte?
[10:50] <jsheppard> anyone using ruby on rails?
[10:50] <JoeBlow> ompaul, ntfs und fat32?
[10:50] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, All right, thanks.
[10:50] <jsheppard> having issues with lighttpd conf
[10:50] <agent_bob> np
[10:50] <JoeBlow> Esco, stimmpt
[10:50] <nevyn> jsheppard: no it's all a bunch of rumors by the scheme cabal
[10:50] <nevyn> ;)
[10:51] <sentinel> ompaul: think you could be more specific? /etc/apache2/mods-available/userdir.conf isn't too helpful
[10:51] <jsheppard> nevyn, ha
[10:51] <tonyyarusso> So I was wondering earlier (mainly a curiosity question), what would it take to make a personal computer your own ISP (such that you could avoid paying one more bill)?
[10:51] <Esco> in my summerholiday i want to visit new york
[10:51] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: you need to connect somewhere...
[10:51] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso i have setup systems with as few as 2 runleves 0 & 1    and as many as 13  0-12
[10:51] <JoeBlow> Esco, Vancouver Canada is sehr bessar
[10:52] <dibblego> inventing your own internet, much much bigger than your competitor
[10:52] <dibblego> good luck with that :)
[10:52] <tonyyarusso> nevyn, Well, how do the internet providers do it?
[10:52] <JoeBlow> anyone played doom 3 on linux?
[10:52] <dibblego> they pay a provider
[10:52] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: they connect to other providers
[10:52] <JoeBlow> im unning the install right now, i wonder if it will go well
[10:52] <nevyn> up to the likes of sprint and stuff
[10:52] <deicidus> hi, i just got dvd support working in totem (yay!) but the sound is all ugly and distorted, like the volume is turned up way too high for the speaker. can anyone help fix it? xmms also has the same poor sound, but system sounds like the ubuntu login chime sound great.
[10:52] <visik7> hi
[10:53] <visik7> try also here to post my problem
[10:53] <tonyyarusso> nevyn, But couldn't anyone do the same thing?
[10:53] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso 'network backbone'  google
[10:53] <JoeBlow> deicidus, ok first off, how the hell did u get dvds to work??
[10:53] <JoeBlow> deicidus, i havent gotten that to work at all
[10:53] <visik7> make menuconfig into linux-source-2.6.12 says:
[10:53] <nevyn> tonyyarusso: we're talking about a table where you need millions of dollars to sit.
[10:53] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso  yes if you have the hardware.  you can
[10:53] <deicidus> JoeBlow, lets see, i installed totem-
[10:53] <Esco2> hello im back
[10:53] <deicidus> JoeBlow, lets see, i installed totem-xine*
[10:53] <nevyn> agent_bob: you've got to connect to someone
[10:53] <dibblego> when I select 'Community Maintained' to add a software repository, it is unclicked when I look back after closing the dialog window
[10:54] <JoeBlow> deicidus, i got those
[10:54] <visik7> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 11: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:54] <visik7> /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12/scripts/gcc-version.sh: line 12: gcc-3.4: command not found
[10:54] <JoeBlow> deicidus, still wont read my dvds tho
[10:54] <olicat> hi folks.
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, So what would the minumum hardware reqs be, approximately, do you think?
[10:54] <olicat> anyone here have any experience with rsnapshot for backups?
[10:54] <JoeBlow> deicidus, but the sound issue is probably your audio drivewr, just cause it works doesnt mean its the right driver, go throught he options and try all of them
[10:54] <deicidus> JoeBlow, hang on, getting the page i used...
[10:54] <agent_bob> nevyn build a backbone and let the world connect to you.
[10:54] <JoeBlow> deicidus, ok cool
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> nevyn, Hrm, that could be an issue.  Lottery?  (j/k)
[10:54] <fek> moin
[10:54] <Esco2> JoeBlow i have a question. Who can i get the codec for mp3?
[10:54] <tonyyarusso> !mp3
[10:54] <ubotu> mp3 is probably a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:54] <JoeBlow> Esco2, get beep
[10:55] <deicidus> JoeBlow, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and...
[10:55] <JoeBlow> deicidus, ty
[10:55] <JoeBlow> Esco2, beep is by far the best mp3 player and it will come with the codecs
[10:55] <capn> Are there any decent "guides" on how to update to dapper?
[10:55] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso microwave tower network,  or cable/satelite network that is at least state wide,  preferable nation wide.
[10:55] <JoeBlow> Esco2, do u know how to use Synaptic Package manager?
[10:55] <Esco2> no
[10:56] <deicidus> JoeBlow, and also make sure you have libdvdnav4 installed. thats what worked for me, those instructions for DVD on that page and that package
[10:56] <Esco2> please explain me to use it
[10:56] <deicidus> joeblow, np
[10:56] <tofdz> salut
[10:56] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso the hardware that moves all the data is called the 'backbone'  you could google.
[10:56] <JoeBlow> deicidus, cool
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, Why would each need that much infrastructure, rather than everyone setting up a little bit and connecting it all together?
[10:56] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, Yeah, I'm trying google now.
[10:56] <tofdz> ho i'm sorry i thinj i'm not in the good chan for me
[10:57] <capn> Are there any decent "guides" out there on how to update from breezy to dapper?
[10:57] <agent_bob> you asked about being an 'isp'  without having to connect to one.  i just said now they do it.
[10:57] <deicidus> joeblow, how do i change the driver?
[10:58] <Esco2> ok i open the synaptic package manager and search for beep
[10:58] <dyclops> hi
[10:58] <robotgeek> capn: if you dunno how to update, you probably shoudl not install dapper
[10:58] <Esco2> he found a lot of packages
[10:59] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, Sorry that I'm not really following...
[10:59] <dyclops> strange problem, my screen resolution has gone to 640X480 and I can't seem to change it back
[10:59] <dyclops> any help appreciated
[10:59] <robotgeek> dyclops, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:59] <JoeBlow> deicidus. one second bro
[10:59] <JoeBlow> I GOT DOOM 3 WORKING IN LINUX!!!!
[10:59] <JoeBlow> personal goal
[11:00] <JoeBlow> deicidus, i know how to do it mplyer, but i cant figure it out for gxine or totem
[11:00] <JoeBlow> deicidus, have u tried mplyer
[11:00] <agent_bob> tonyyarusso everyone but the 'backbone' is paying the 'backbone' for the use of the hardware.  everyone.    thousands of small 'isp' have contracts with folks like ma bell and others for the traffic they put on the lines...
[11:00] <dyclops> robotgeek, i there an easier way? I don't know all the required settings...
[11:00] <JoeBlow> deicidus, have u tried mplayer
[11:01] <agent_bob> but this is way off topic.
[11:01] <Esco2> Joeblow i have install beep and it worked
[11:01] <Esco2> thanky
[11:01] <Esco2> thanks
[11:01] <deicidus> joeblow, ive used it before but not on linux
[11:01] <tonyyarusso> agent_bob, True, sorry.
[11:01] <deicidus> joeblow, now that totem is working so nicely id prefer to use that
[11:01] <JoeBlow> deicidus, i would try mplayer
[11:01] <JoeBlow> deicidus, oh then imnot sure, but im sure someone can help you out here
[11:01] <JoeBlow> Esco2, i love beep
[11:01] <JoeBlow> Esco2, do u play any computer games?
[11:02] <robotgeek> dyclops: try using sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[11:02] <Esco2> no really
[11:03] <Esco2> but now i play "Football Manager 2005"
[11:03] <ompaul> nevyn,  on the menu   ---  applications -> system tools -> Ubuntu Device Database -> Help   how much use that is to you idk but hey you can find out
[11:05] <Esco2> and you?
[11:06] <Foller> how can i list the partitions on my system?
[11:06] <intravenous_pain> hey, um, this is the first day i've ever used linux and i was wondering if someone could help me out ...
[11:06] <tonyyarusso> Foller, df
[11:07] <tonyyarusso> intravenous_pain, Go ahead and ask your question, and someone will let you know if they can.
[11:07] <agent_bob> Foller sudo fdisk -l
[11:07] <Foller> tonyyarusso, that's not exactly i wanted... there was some other command that listed what the partitions were, too...
[11:07] <intravenous_pain> ok .i'm trying to install firefox and can't figure out how
[11:07] <Foller> agent_bob, yes, that's the command! i forgot it. thanks :)
[11:07] <Misnix> Foller,  sudo fdisk -l
[11:07] <agent_bob> df will list all mounted partitions
[11:08] <intravenous_pain> it's telling me to use synaptic and find my package and click the white box next to it, but i can't find the package anywhere
[11:09] <fredl> So I just installed Ubuntu on this new laptop.... I told it to use 20% of the disk and to resize the windows that was already on there..... However, it gave windows 20% instead and took 80% for itself.
[11:09] <agent_bob> or more accurately all mounted file systems.
[11:09] <fredl> is there any way to redo that now that I have both Ubuntu and Windows installed and want to give windows more space and Ubuntu less space_
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> Foller, fdisk will also let you change things about them, in addition to listing.
[11:10] <fredl> I've done a similar stupidity on my desktop PC, where I mistakenly typed 'max'
[11:10] <Arkady> How do I check what file system do I have on my ubuntu system?
[11:10] <fredl> So now Windows has no breathing space left :)
[11:10] <tonyyarusso> intravenous_pain, a) Which version of FF?, b) Unless you did a server install, FF is included by default.
[11:11] <intravenous_pain> yes but my ubuntu came with 1.0.2 i think and i'm trying to get the latest (1.5)
[11:11] <redguy> Arkady: mount will list mounted partitions along with the filesystem typa and mount options
[11:11] <adusei16> I extracted aMule how do I install?
[11:11] <tonyyarusso> !tell intravenous_pain about firefox1.5
[11:11] <redguy> !info amule
[11:11] <ubotu> amule: (aNOTHER eMule P2P Client), section universe/x11, is optional. Version: 2.0.3-1ubuntu4 (breezy), Packaged size: 2459 kB, Installed size: 7452 kB
[11:12] <tonyyarusso> intravenous_pain, The latest in the repos is 1.07, you'll have to do something more involved for 1.5.
[11:12] <redguy> adusei16: you have to enable universe in your sources.list
[11:12] <nbound> !!ff1.5
[11:12] <ubotu> nbound: What?
[11:12] <redguy> !tell adusei16 about sources
[11:12] <nbound> !ff1.5
[11:12] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[11:12] <adusei16> am a new user
[11:12] <redguy> adusei16: read what ubotu told you
[11:13] <redguy> adusei16: then you will be able to install it from Package Manager/synaptic
[11:14] <intravenous_pain> thnx
[11:15] <phreak97_> gah, i need 7-zips
[11:15] <IAmAI> Hello.
[11:15] <adusei16> its not listed in synaptic
[11:15] <redguy> !tell adusei16 about nicktab
[11:15] <redguy> adusei16: did you read the wiki page uboutu told you about?
[11:16] <fredl> hmm is would appear that what I'm looking for is gparted on the live CD
[11:16] <nonloso> ciao a tutti
[11:16] <IAmAI> Hello, ubotu.
[11:16] <fredl> does anybody know if it can grow Windows filesystems?
[11:16] <intravenous_pain> i'm reading it now
[11:17] <adusei16> what page
[11:17] <redguy> adusei16: READ WHAT ubotu TOULD YOU
[11:17] <fredl> oh well, I will just try it =
[11:17] <redguy> TOLD even
[11:17] <fredl> damn portuguese keyboard
[11:17] <redguy> fredl: bacup first
[11:17] <tonyyarusso> fredl, Probably not, but ntfsresize (part of package ntfsprogs) can.
[11:18] <fredl> hmmm
[11:18] <redguy> !sources
[11:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:18] <redguy> !nicktab
[11:18] <fredl> so if I resize my Ubuntu partition from the Liv CD....
[11:18] <tonyyarusso> fredl, You can install it in a live session an use it from there if you'd like.
[11:18] <fredl> then boot up Ubuntu again.....
[11:19] <Tuxiscool> Hi, when compiling a Qt app I get some errors like "/usr/lib/libQtSql.so: undefined reference to `mysql_query@MYSQL_5.0'
[11:19] <Tuxiscool> " Does anyone know which ubuntu packages contain the neccessary library (MySQL 5.0)?
[11:19] <fredl> and then use the ntfsresize from within my current Ubuntu install to grow the windows partition again?
[11:19] <redguy> tonyyarusso: you can install stuff when running the live cd? cool
[11:20] <Esco1> hi i need emacs for ubuntu v 5.04
[11:20] <adusei16> I found it
[11:20] <redguy> !emacs
[11:20] <ubotu> redguy: Huh?
[11:20] <redguy> !info emacs
[11:20] <Foller> weird. i'm using mkdir to make directories "win_c" and "win_d", then i mount the ntfs partitions, but the directories doesn't even show up anywhere. why?
[11:20] <redguy> Huh?
[11:21] <tonyyarusso> redguy, You can, but it eats up your RAM.  Take a look at my suggested spec for 6.10 for my thoughts on improving that.  (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash)
[11:21] <Foller> Oh wait. sorry. my bad.
[11:21] <Esco1> redguy what?
[11:21] <Marlun> Are there any good bittorrent client for linux/ubuntu except azureus?
[11:21] <redguy> Esco1: did you try installing emacs21 ?
[11:21] <kestas> how about bittorrent?
[11:21] <Esco1> no
[11:22] <redguy> Esco1: sudo apt-get install emacs21 should do it
[11:22] <Marlun> kestas, sorry, I also want multiple torrents in same window, not a new client for every torrent.
[11:22] <redguy> Esco1: or maybe you want xemacs?
[11:22] <kestas> Marlun, yeah bittorrent can do that
[11:22] <tonyyarusso> fredl: Sounds good to me.
[11:22] <kestas> btdownloadmanycurses.py
[11:22] <Marlun> kestas, it can? thats new then?
[11:22] <spliff> hey ubunterz
[11:22] <Marlun> kestas, because it could not do that before.
[11:22] <IAmAI> Hello.
[11:22] <kestas> Marlun, dunno
[11:23] <spliff> whaddya know
[11:23] <Esco1> i want emacs 21
[11:23] <Esco1> but  he say that the packages are disable
[11:24] <agent_bob> hehhe tony   go to bed.
[11:24] <agent_bob> :)
[11:24] <Saw^> Could somebody help with setting up a RT2500 wlan card? I've got a driver for it now, but seems like pcmcia is not working or the card is anyway not detected.
[11:24] <Esco1> redguy emacs21-bin-common (=21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installabl
[11:25] <agent_bob> hmmm saw control    nice nick
[11:25] <redguy> Esco1: did you apt-get update ?
[11:26] <Esco1> no
[11:26] <redguy> Esco1: do it and try again
[11:26] <ompaul> Esco1, sudo apt-get update
[11:27] <Esco1> i update it but it doesnt work
[11:27] <neoxan_> hi
[11:28] <agent_bob> consolechars -d
[11:28] <agent_bob> Cannot find a default font file.
[11:28] <Esco1> emacs21-nox:
[11:28] <Esco1>  Hngt ab: emacs21-bin-common (=21.4a-1ubuntu1) but it is not installable
[11:28] <agent_bob> what can i do to fix that ?
[11:28] <agent_bob> install console fonts ?
[11:29] <redguy> !info emacs21-bin-common
[11:29] <ubotu> emacs21-bin-common: (The GNU Emacs editor's shared, architecture dependent files), section editors, is optional. Version: 21.4a-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 130 kB, Installed size: 388 kB
[11:29] <mzinz> what do i download in synaptic package manager to get java?
[11:29] <pie> hi there!
[11:29] <kestas> !java
[11:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:30] <redguy> Esco1: well, if ubotu says that that version is availible then you have your sources.list file borked propably
[11:30] <kestas> !javadebs
[11:30] <kestas> tell mzinz about javadebs
[11:30] <kestas> !tell mzinz about javadebs
[11:30] <Saw^> agent_bob: my card is detected just as "Ralink: Unknown device" and it should have RT2500 chipset, but it's not detected
[11:31] <C-O-L-T> I am so happy I just have got the ubuntu shipit cd's
[11:31] <C-O-L-T> YUPEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[11:31] <chalcedony> great nick Linuxapprentice :)
[11:31] <Esco1> what is "list file borked propably"??#
[11:31] <redguy> Esco1: care to paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org ?
[11:31] <visik7> http://pastebin.com/514371 <- what's wrong ?
[11:31] <Linuxapprentice> silly question but i'm onlye an apprentice: where's the setup.exe of any program?
[11:31] <redguy> Esco1: /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:32] <mzinz> kestas, it says its in multiverse, whats an easy way to find it other than just doing search?
[11:32] <Tuxiscool> Linuxapprentice, Nowhere.
[11:32] <visik7> ubuntu kernel cowing my headers (cowing from cow dunno how to say "svaccare" in english )
[11:32] <kestas> it isn't in the multiverse
[11:32] <ccooke> Linuxapprentice: almost anything you want to install on ubuntu will be in the packaging system - you just tell Ubuntu to install that package, and it does. No clicking on .exe files of anything.
[11:32] <Linuxapprentice> a have problems installing flash player i get the error ur architecture doesn't support x86_64
[11:32] <kestas> use the unofficial seveas debs which ubotu pmed you about
[11:33] <Linuxapprentice> I have AMD64
[11:33] <tonyyarusso> Would somebody who has been involved in development be able to tell me if the spec I mentioned before is well-written and clear?  It's the first time I've tried something like that.  (https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+spec/livecd-apt-install-to-usbflash)
[11:33] <ompaul> Linuxapprentice, that would be the case cos the flash people don't believe in 64 bit
[11:33] <Linuxapprentice> thnx ccoke
[11:33] <ompaul> !chroot
[11:33] <ubotu> chroot is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24575
[11:33] <ccooke> Linuxapprentice: macromedia don't release a flash player for linux x86-64 yet.
[11:33] <ompaul> Linuxapprentice, that ubotu comment may help some
[11:33] <ccooke> Linuxapprentice: there's a recommended gpl player for 64bit, but it's not as good
[11:33] <Linuxapprentice> so what am i doin now?
[11:34] <Esco1> ok and then
[11:34] <Linuxapprentice> i only wanbt to view webpages flashes instead of broken images
[11:34] <ccooke> Linuxapprentice: try http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[11:34] <redguy> !tell Esco1 about nicktab
[11:34] <ccooke> Linuxapprentice: It includes information of playing many media formats, including flasg
[11:34] <redguy> Esco1: well, give me a link so I can see it
[11:35] <visik7> GrrrERJwj
[11:35] <Marlun> Can I send files from my computer running ubuntu to my laptop running winXP (ntfs)?
[11:35] <agent_bob> what the crap is  '/usr/bin/install' ???
[11:35] <visik7> WTF the ubuntu kernel modify in headers
[11:35] <Arkady> Yes you can Marlun. I just did this and I'm a total newbie.
[11:35] <Tuxiscool> Marlun, Samba, perhaps?
[11:35] <Marlun> Do I share a folder on my laptop and mount it with samba?
[11:35] <tonyyarusso> Marlun, You can have shared directories over a network with Samba, or work through ssh with putty.
[11:35] <redguy> Marlun: by what means? network?
[11:36] <Marlun> redguy, my own home network.
[11:36] <Esco1> /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:36] <Esco1> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[11:36] <Esco1> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted
[11:36] <Esco1> ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch major bug fix updates produced
[11:36] <Esco1> ## after the final release of the distribution.
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[11:36] <agent_bob> or better question does the system (apt and the like) need "/usr/bin/install" ?
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-updates main restricted
[11:36] <Esco1> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'universe'
[11:36] <Esco1> ## repository.
[11:36] <Esco1> ## N.B. software from this repository is ENTIRELY UNSUPPORTED by the Ubuntu
[11:36] <Esco1> ## team, and may not be under a free licence. Please satisfy yourself as to
[11:36] <Esco1> ## your rights to use the software. Also, please note that software in
[11:36] <Esco1> ## universe WILL NOT receive any review or updates from the Ubuntu security
[11:36] <Esco1> ## team.
[11:36] <deFrysk> is this flooding ?
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> !tell Esoc1 about pastebin
[11:36] <Esco1> # deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[11:36] <redguy> Escol STOP
[11:36] <Esco1> ## Uncomment the following two lines to add software from the 'backports'
[11:36] <Esco1> ## repository.
[11:36] <tonyyarusso> !tell Esco1 about bannable
[11:36] <Esco1> ## N.B. software from this repository may not have been tested as
[11:36] <Esco1> ## extensively as that contained in the main release, although it includes
[11:36] <deFrysk> !flooding
[11:36] <ubotu> deFrysk: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[11:37] <Esco1> ## newer versions of some applications which may provide useful features.
[11:37] <Esco1> ## Also, please note that software in backports WILL NOT receive any review
[11:37] <Esco1> ## or updates from the Ubuntu security team.
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> !flood
[11:37] <ubotu> it has been said that flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb-src http://de.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security main restricted
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[11:37] <Esco1> # deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[11:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell Esco1 about flood
[11:37] <Esco1> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ bre
[11:37] <redguy> Escol STOP
[11:37] <redguy> Escol STOP
[11:37] <deFrysk> someone kick thas asssco1
[11:37] <Arkady> I'm trying to connect to an SMB share on a ubuntu box through WinXP. The connection is set up fine. The problem is that the share is asking for a username and pass and no matter what I give to it it won't connect. Any ideas?
[11:37] <visik7> help please
[11:37] <Esco1> sorry
[11:37] <visik7> http://pastebin.com/514371 <- what's wrong ?
[11:37] <deFrysk> Esco1, no help for you today
[11:38] <redguy> which part of that didn't you understand? redguy Esco1: care to paste it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:38] <deFrysk> Esco1, sorry
[11:38] <n00b> HELLO
[11:38] <n00b> HELLO
[11:39] <midwinter> Arkady, set up a user with samba on ubuntu -  smbpasswd username -a
[11:39] <tonyyarusso> Arkady, I had to have a user account in linux with the same username and password as was used on the Windows computer, and then make sure that it is also added to the samba passwords file with smbpasswd.
[11:39] <n00b> ZOMG IT WORKS
[11:39] <n00b> ZOMG
[11:39] <agent_bob> nice flood.... when Esco1 floods  he does it right    hehhe o.o
[11:39] <n00b> okayz m8's i need help
[11:39] <midwinter> Arkady, use the windows logon/pass
[11:39] <Esco1> redguy here is the link http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7401
[11:39] <mumbles-gone> erm 606 users on this channel - ouch
[11:39] <Arkady> I have no Windows logon/pass
[11:39] <n00b> how do i install cedega on a 64 bit system with chroot
[11:39] <liable> no ops eh?
[11:39] <Arkady> midwinter - Is there a way to do it without passwords?
[11:39] <redguy> Esco1: ok, sec
[11:40] <tonyyarusso> Arkady, Uh, somebody must...
[11:40] <Arkady> Somebody needs...
[11:41] <liable> help.
[11:41] <tonyyarusso> Arkady, Are you trying to tell us that you have Windows with no user accounts?  How the heck would that work?
[11:41] <midwinter> Arkady, in your smb.conf I think you can change security to share..
[11:42] <redguy> Esco1: look http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7402 to see how to change it to make it work
[11:42] <Tired_> Hello.  I've been asked to set up a Linux dual-boot system, so that the Linux side can be used for more secure web browsing.  What's the minimum amount of hard drive space I'll need to run just Ubuntu, X, a small WM, and Firefox?
[11:42] <Tired_> Can I do it in under 3GB?
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> midwinter, That sounds right.
[11:42] <Arkady> tonyyarusso - I have an admin account with no password.
[11:42] <IAmAI> Tired: 3GB is more than enough.
[11:42] <tonyyarusso> Tired_, For sure.
[11:42] <Arkady> midwinter - I'm pretty new to linux. How would I access smb.conf?
[11:42] <agent_bob> Tired_ about 400m
[11:43] <Tired_> Awesome.  :)
[11:43] <Esco1> ok what do you change?
[11:43] <redguy> !tell Esco1 about sources
[11:43] <bimberi> Tired_: yep, 3gb would be enough for the regular install :)
[11:43] <redguy> Esco1: you might also want to read what ubotu told you
[11:43] <Gunfus> hello, is there any easy GUI way to add folders that are shared by SMB in another computer.?
[11:43] <tonyyarusso> Arkady, /etc/samba/smb.conf
[11:43] <Marlun> Ok now I've installed samba and smbfs, and added the line to /etc/fstab, i restarted samba but still nothing in the /media/, do I need to restart the computer?
[11:43] <IAmAI> When I installed Ubuntu, it made itself a 500MB partition for itself, and didn't do anything with the rest of it! :P
[11:44] <redguy> Esco1: after changing your sources.list file don't forget to run sudo apt-get update
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, System > Administration > Shared Folders.
[11:44] <Tired_> Does the Ubuntu installer play nicely with an existing Windows XP install?
[11:44] <agent_bob> you did ask about 'minimum'   Tired_    with x and ff about 400m  but i recomend at least 2g
[11:44] <IAmAI> The rest of my 13GB disk, that it.
[11:44] <monzie> can someone help me with windowmaker configuration on Ubuntu?
[11:44] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, that only seems to allow me to share my directories.. i want to add a already shared directory
[11:44] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Wait, that was to share them, to access is in places.
[11:44] <agent_bob> IAmAI server install ?
[11:44] <bimberi> Tired_: it does
[11:45] <redguy> Gunfus: you can do it in Nautilus (ubuntu's default file manager)
[11:45] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Places > Network Servers / Connect to Server
[11:45] <IAmAI> agent_bob: Don't think so. Is 'ff' Firefox? Does it really need 400MB?
[11:45] <IAmAI> Or take it, for that matter.
[11:45] <Tired_> awesome.  you guys rock.  thanks a lot for making such a great product and for being so helpful.  it's appreciated.
[11:45] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, Excellent thanks.. that is one places that I overlooked.
[11:45] <Gunfus> redguy, I will give that a try
[11:46] <redguy> Gunfus: try entering smb:/ in nautilus
[11:46] <Esco1> redguy i didnt understand what you mean
[11:46] <bimberi> ubotu tell Tired_ about dualboot
[11:46] <redguy> Esco1: which part?
[11:46] <agent_bob> IAmAI the base linux system takes over 200m   and   if you want to add x and ff you will need about that much more....   and we are talking minimum
[11:47] <Gunfus> redguy, where do I enter that..?
[11:47] <agent_bob> IAmAI if you only have a 500m partition and ubuntu installed on it.  it is server install.   i.e.  console only.
[11:47] <Gunfus> redguy, got it
[11:47] <Esco1> the last part you tell me with the source
[11:47] <IAmAI> Nope, unless I'm reading it wrong.
[11:47] <monzie> anybody who's using window maker here?
[11:48] <Saw^> How can I see if power management is preventing the use of pcmcia? pcmcia card's lights do not lit
[11:48] <agent_bob> IAmAI i wasn't asking ^   i was telling.
[11:48] <Arkady> How do I stop smb.conf from being Read Only?
[11:48] <spo0nman> http://www.flickr.com/photos/pankaj/sets/72057594051146314/
[11:48] <IAmAI> Well, I have GNOME istalled and working ^__^
[11:48] <IAmAI> And Firefox and OpenOffice.
[11:48] <redguy> Esco1: did you change your sources.list file?
[11:49] <agent_bob> IAmAI then you have more than a single 500m partition.
[11:49] <IAmAI> OK.
[11:49] <agent_bob> IAmAI sudo fdisk -l   to list them.
[11:49] <IAmAI> agent_bob: I'm just going by what the disk manager told me.
[11:49] <agent_bob> IAmAI "sudo fdisk -l"   to list them.   and you'll see
[11:49] <IAmAI> Although, I'm not at my Linux boc at the moment.
[11:49] <IAmAI> *box
[11:50] <Gunfus> I saw someone saying that Ubuntus rocks.. MAN I CAN ONLY SAY IT REALLY ROCkS!
[11:50] <Esco1> no i dont
[11:50] <Esco1> how can i change it?
[11:50] <olicat> is it possible to copy over ssh without using a password?
[11:51] <Gunfus> I have been a redhat user.. for a long time.. since 5, I went away from linux for a couple of years.. and now that I comming back.. Ubuntus.. is a great thing
[11:51] <redguy> Esco1: see http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7402 to see how your /etc/apt/sources.list should look like
[11:51] <olicat> use a certificate or something?
[11:51] <sjoerd> olicat: ssh key
[11:51] <redguy> Esco1: and change it so it looks the same
[11:51] <olicat> sjoerd, do you know any guides or anything? i've not used that before
[11:51] <Esco1> how can i change it?
[11:51] <sjoerd> olicat: http://cfm.gs.washington.edu/security/ssh/client-pkauth/
[11:52] <redguy> Esco1: and please, start your messages with redguy: so I can spot them easily
[11:53] <olicat> sjoerd, cheers
[11:53] <Esco1> redguy how can i change it?
[11:53] <agent_bob> edit the file with nano
[11:54] <bimberi> Gunfus: I can only agree :)
[11:54] <agent_bob> Esco1 in a terminal    'sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list '        i think that is what you are asking about....
[11:55] <redguy> Esco1: open the terminal window and enter sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list, enter your password, edit the file, to save changes hit CTRL-O, to quit hit CTRL-X
[11:55] <Gunfus> bimberi, :)
[11:56] <agent_bob> fungus  ?
[11:56] <Gunfus> agent_bob, is gunfus
[11:56] <redguy> there's a little step from gunfus to gnufus
[11:56] <quad_> How do I create a user that can handle/administer CUPS?
[11:57] <Gunfus> redguy, gnufus.. what is that..?!
[11:57] <redguy> Gunfus: propably nothing, but it's got GNU inside it :-)
[11:57] <Esco1> redguy ok mom
[11:58] <quad_> Anyone?
[11:58] <Gunfus> redguy, hahah.. okay.. so is what I thought.. nothing.. I really neverthought of making my nick GNU complaint..
[11:59] <bimberi> !cupsweb
[11:59] <ubotu> To enable the administration functions of the cups web interface - "sudo adduser cupsys shadow" then "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[11:59] <n00b> HOWS DO I INSTALLZ CEDEGA ON A 64 BIT SYST0RM WITH CHROOT
[11:59] <Gunfus> redgnu, hahahha.. I like that nick.. heheh
[11:59] <Marlun> how do I unrar files that has been split into multiple rar files like one .rar then .r02 .r03, etc? "Archive Manager" couldn't open it.
[11:59] <redgnu> Gunfus: hrmm, it doesn't feel well
[11:59] <Ng> Marlun: install rar or unrar from universe/multiverse
[11:59] <Marlun> Ng, ok :)
[12:00] <liable> n00b: you start by turning caps lock off!
[12:00] <bimberi> quad_: see ubotu ^^^ (then you should be able to log in to the administrative functions with your normal account)
[12:00] <Ng> Marlun: I'd recommend rar, and the other is unrar-nonfree, not unrar, sorry.
[12:00] <n00b> liable, soz
[12:00] <chickenman> Hi, can someone help me, when I boot up and it gets to Hotplug Subsystem, I get a load of hex codes and other rubbish, at the end I get this message: <3>hw_random: RNG Not Detected ?, after that it will not boot any more.
[12:00] <n00b> liable, okay so how do i do it?
[12:00] <Gunfus> redgnu, haha... I guess.. after all your nickname is not open to be used.. and you don't want it to be distributed
[12:00] <liable> n00b: no idea :)
[12:01] <n00b> liable, lol
[12:01] <Ng> n00b: install the debs in the chroot, or you can probably just about get away with forcing them into the 64bit install if you have the 32bit compatibility libraries installed
[12:01] <Esco1> redgnu i have done it
[12:02] <redguy> Esco1: ok, run sudo apt-get update
[12:02] <agent_bob> heh  i'm not agent bob all the time.... i'm only bob for a day.
[12:02] <n00b> Ng, can you please explain this further as i am a total n00b
[12:02] <n00b> Ng, if you have a link to a website that would be great
[12:02] <Ng> n00b: have you created the chroot already?
[12:02] <n00b> Ng, yes, i did it from the wiki at ubuntu
[12:03] <Esco1> ok i have done it and yet?
[12:03] <chickenman> When I boot up and it gets to Hotplug Subsystem, I get a load of hex codes and other rubbish, at the end I get this message: <3>hw_random: RNG Not Detected ?, after that it will not boot any more, help me please I want to use ubuntu !
[12:03] <redguy> Esco1: after that run apt-get install emacs21
[12:03] <Ng> n00b: ok, get yourself a shell in the chroot as root and do "dpkg -i foo.deb" (replace "foo.deb" with each of the cedega .deb packages) and then you should be able to run cedega from the chroot like you are with anything else in it
[12:05] <chickenman> I need help !
[12:05] <bob_4_a_day> chickenman how good are you in a console ?  know your way around linux ok ?
[12:05] <chickenman> yes used it for over a year, and i much prefer text based
[12:06] <SAM_theman> hey guys i need help ok
[12:06] <eroot> my ubuntu server rebooted, how can i see the log why the server rebooted?!
[12:06] <tonyyarusso> SAM_theman, just ask.
[12:07] <SAM_theman> today i am supposed to be getting my new Amd 3800+ X2 processor and a new Geforce 6600GT graphics card and many more my dad bought it for me for my good grades but anyway....
[12:07] <Esco1> redgnu it works thank you for help and your patience
[12:07] <n00b> Ng, okay how do i access chroot as root
[12:07] <SAM_theman> i am on my dads comp right
[12:07] <krage> how do i cangce the first day of the week from sunday to monday in the calendar?
[12:07] <chickenman> I need help :(
[12:07] <SAM_theman> and i am trying to burn some files with his dvd burner but k3b don't seem to respond?
[12:08] <phimic> hello all
[12:08] <SAM_theman> yo
[12:08] <bob_4_a_day> ok you can boot with    init=/bin/bash     and it will put you in a root shell chickenman     then you will have to  'mount -o remount,rw / '   so you can change things....(don't forget to un-do that before reboot.)    and remove the symlink for hotplug in /etc/rcS.d/   and reboot     <-- assumes that you don't have to have it for keyboard to work.
[12:08] <eroot> where can i find the log files? (error logs etc)
[12:09] <bob_4_a_day> chickenman what i said there is a workaround to get you booted, so you can fix it.
[12:09] <phimic> i have a big problem with my ubuntu breezy installation
[12:09] <nig> hi everyone....
[12:09] <krage> nickserv identify martialart
[12:09] <chickenman> bob_4_a_day: Ok I'll give that a try
[12:09] <phimic> the pc reboot automatically after 2 minutes without warning and logging
[12:09] <nig> i've just finished my installation, like it very much
[12:09] <virogenesis> krage,  change ur pass now and do auth in status next time mate
[12:10] <Esco1> i have another problem
[12:10] <phimic> i use a i915G chipset with a integrated GMA9000 graphic card
[12:10] <n00b> Ng, i logged into the chroot account by doing sudo chroot /var/chroot ... is that correct?
[12:10] <Ng> n00b: yep
[12:11] <JoeBlow> does anyone else get a major preformance drop in games using an ati card on linux as compared to windows?
[12:11] <Esco1> how can i to take hold on my windows data
[12:11] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ntfs?
[12:12] <JoeBlow> Esco1, u wanna read your windows drive basically?
[12:12] <n00b> Ng, okay, then i typed in dpkg -i cedega.deb and i got an error msg
[12:12] <Esco1> yes it is ntfs
[12:12] <JoeBlow> Esco1, alright u can read but not write to it
[12:12] <Ng> n00b: could you paste it to a pastebin please?
[12:12] <Ng> !pastebin
[12:12] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[12:12] <nig> Hello Escol, i just installed ubuntu...how can i read my data in G drive, fat32....
[12:12] <n00b> k
[12:12] <JoeBlow> nig, ill help ya out in a second
[12:12] <Esco1> and i want read it only
[12:13] <liable> !vfatro
[12:13] <ubotu> liable: Some people juggle geese
[12:13] <Esco1> nig i have no plan im a newbie too
[12:13] <bob_4_a_day> nig mount it
[12:13] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ok go into console, and do sudo nano etc/fstab
[12:13] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ok go into console, and do sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:13] <nig> that's alright
[12:13] <Esco1> ok and than
[12:13] <nig> JoeBlow, are you free to help?
[12:13] <JoeBlow> Escol, do you see your drives
[12:14] <bob_4_a_day> nig i was offering too.
[12:14] <JoeBlow> nig, ill be done with this guy in about 2 minutes, then ill help ya out
[12:14] <Esco1> no its empty
[12:14] <Esco1> joeblow ist empty
[12:14] <tonyyarusso> !tell nig about vfat
[12:14] <JoeBlow> Escol, ok, do cntrl+x, and then dont save and retype exactly like this
[12:14] <nig> ok,thank you very much
[12:14] <JoeBlow> Escol, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:14] <n00b> Ng, http://pastebin.com/514409
[12:15] <Esco1> ah yes ok
[12:15] <n00b> Ng, for some reason it says it doesn't exist, but its there... on my desktop
[12:15] <JoeBlow> Escol, ok find our ntfs drives, and wher it says defaults
[12:15] <JoeBlow> Escol, make it say umask=0222
[12:16] <krage> how do i cangce the first day of the week from sunday to monday in the calendar?
[12:16] <Ng> n00b: I'd suggest that might be because those files are on your desktop, but the chroot is separate. copy them into the chroot first. it's kinda like you have two copies of linux installed that are separate (although you can do something called bind mounting to partially connect them)
[12:16] <JoeBlow> Escol, for fat32 (vfat) u put umask=000 i think
[12:16] <JoeBlow> Escol, ok got it?
[12:16] <Esco1> there is <options> default and i say <options> unmask=0222 is that right
[12:16] <SAM_theman> bbl have to go to school...
[12:16] <bob_4_a_day> krage why do that ?
[12:16] <SAM_theman> pff 9th grade
[12:16] <tonyyarusso> krage, It might help others help you if you say what calendar.
[12:16] <bob_4_a_day> i think it's in the time/date and numbers settings tho
[12:17] <JoeBlow> Escol, yea under option, wher it says defualts, u delete defaults and put in umask=0222
[12:17] <n00b> Ng, oh, ok
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> Esco1, umask, not unmask.
[12:17] <krage> bob_4_a_day: because in norway monday is the first day at the week :)
[12:17] <JoeBlow> Escol, yea umask
[12:17] <krage> tonyyarusso: the calander up with the clock, in standard innstalation of ubuntu
[12:17] <Esco1> yes i make it
[12:17] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe no it's not.....
[12:17] <tonyyarusso> bob_4_a_day, Much of the rest of the world has their calendars start on Monday.
[12:18] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, ive never seen that in europe
[12:18] <krage> bob_4_a_day: yes it is :)
[12:18] <pesco> Hi, I have a problem with apt. I'd like to test the new update-manager. I added the relevant line to sources.list, ran apt-get update, but apt-get install update-manager says, it's already the newest version... What's up?
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> krage, Ah.
[12:18] <JoeBlow> Escol, ok got it?
[12:18] <petko> hi all
[12:18] <Esco1> joablow yes
[12:18] <petko> how to set root password ?
[12:18] <bob_4_a_day> krage  right click it and see if a menu don't come up that lets you change that
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, Really?  They did it in Italy when I was there.
[12:18] <petko> how to set root password ?
[12:18] <JoeBlow> Escol, ok, do a cntrl+x, and then do y to save
[12:18] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, Maybe I'll have to poll some of my international friends on this one.
[12:18] <JoeBlow> and your almost their
[12:18] <bob_4_a_day> petko  'sudo passwd '
[12:18] <Esco1> joeblow i did it
[12:18] <Misnix> sudo passwd root
[12:18] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, in germany, and holland we dont
[12:19] <krage> bob_4_a_day: have tried that did not find anything...
[12:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell petko about root
[12:19] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ok go to administration, disks, and disable the disk, wait a second then re-enable it
[12:19] <lesshaste> how do I take a screenshot of a frame in mplayer?
[12:19] <_jason> Misnix: bob_4_a_day : do not advise that
[12:19] <bob_4_a_day> Misnix name is not needed but dont hurt.
[12:19] <JoeBlow> Escol, and u should be bale to access it from the desktop
[12:19] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, Good to know.  I'll leave it at that then to avoid being off-topic.
[12:19] <seth_g> the longer I use Linux and Open source software, the more I pity Windows users.
[12:19] <bob_4_a_day> _jason kick me out of the channel or take a flying leep..... he asked!
[12:19] <seth_g> poor poor people, for shame...
[12:19] <n00b> Ng, okay now it gives me another error about dependencies and stuff
[12:20] <Misnix> bob_4_a_day, it makes you realise what you're doing
[12:20] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, u know we sit in here helping like 5 hours a day, they can at least let us have little convos inbetween helping
[12:20] <JoeBlow> Escol, everything good?
[12:20] <_jason> bob_4_a_day: most people who ask that here do not know about sudo.  Send them to that page it explains it to them and tells them how to enable root if they still wish to do so
[12:20] <bob_4_a_day> seth_g :)
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> bob_4_a_day, I think generally the practice is to extensively warn, and explain the other options, point them to !rootsudo, and then if they are sure that's what they really want, then tell them.
[12:21] <Esco1> joeblow very nice it works
[12:21] <petko> how to restart X ?
[12:21] <n00b> Ng, http://pastebin.com/514413
[12:21] <Esco1> thnak you for your help
[12:21] <Marlun> In XMMS my output plugin is ALSA and then I have to change "audio device" to hw: 1,0, but I can't get sound to work in mplayer. I've set the output plugin to also but in "configure driver" I can't seem to find the right settings, any standard settings that usually right?
[12:21] <JoeBlow> Esco1 no problem
[12:21] <JoeBlow> nig, u their?
[12:21] <nig> yep
[12:21] <seth_g> I just customized the gdm screen without too much knowledge of xml...  take that windows!!
[12:21] <JoeBlow> nig, still need help
[12:21] <troop> hi.i get segmentation fault with firefox on ubuntu linux.do you know how can i fix it without re-install ?
[12:21] <petko> how to restart X ?
[12:21] <nig> yes...
[12:21] <Misnix> alt-ctrl-backspace, petko
[12:21] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, Well, true, but in acknowledging that they handily set up an entire channel for just that purpose.
[12:22] <Razor-X> Marlun: have you tried a ``killall esd'' beforehand?
[12:22] <JoeBlow> nig, fat 32?
[12:22] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, yea i know
[12:22] <lesshaste>  anyone know how long imageshack keeps pics for?
[12:22] <bob_4_a_day> general pratice is indeed tonyyarusso, but if they ask me how to erase their hdd  i'll tell them that too.
[12:22] <nig> i just install ubuntu...and don't know how to read my dat in G:\...fat32
[12:22] <Arkady> lesshaste - One year.
[12:22] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, im just saying it is us that keeps ubuntu free, when u pay for an os, u mostly pay for support
[12:22] <JoeBlow> nig, ok go into terminal
[12:22] <Marlun> Razor-X, no, what does that do?
[12:22] <tonyyarusso> bob_4_a_day, I've seen that question too.
[12:23] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, Point.
[12:23] <Razor-X> Marlun: it kills every instance of ``esd'', the Enlightenment(?) Sound Daemon
[12:23] <petko> Misnix, how to configure X to work with 100HZ because now work with 60 HZ ?
[12:23] <lesshaste> Arkady: thx!
[12:23] <petko> Misnix, i`m with Radeon 9550
[12:23] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, either way, the only reason i stay here and help is, i need help all the time, so thats the only way i can pay back for getting help, and most questions i answer, i was asking not too long ago
[12:23] <Marlun> Razor-X, and why do I want to do that? =)
[12:23] <Ng> n00b: I think you can do "apt-get -f install" and it'll pull in the required dependencies for you, otherwise you'll need to go through the list it mentioned and install those things in the chroot with apt-get
[12:23] <JoeBlow> nig, r u in terminal
[12:24] <Marlun> Razor-X, no procceses killed.
[12:24] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, I hear you there!  (Started in August)
[12:24] <Razor-X> Marlun: basically, when something plays out to ALSA, it often doesen't work because of your sound daemon, you might want to tell mplayer to specifically play to esd, if you want, if not ``killall esd'' should get ALSA sound working
[12:24] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, i started january lol
[12:24] <JoeBlow> tonyyarusso, <-- less then a month in linux
[12:24] <JoeBlow> nig are you their man?
[12:24] <petko> Misnix, how to configure X to work with 100HZ because now work with 60 HZ ?
[12:24] <petko> Misnix, i`m with Radeon 9550
[12:24] <n00b> ok
[12:25] <n00b> Ng, ok
[12:25] <nig> joe...i have an icon...hda1 on the desktop
[12:25] <bob_4_a_day> well i've been using computers less than 10 years.
[12:25] <JoeBlow> nig, yea im aware
[12:25] <nig> but in C:\, i have XP NTFs...
[12:25] <JoeBlow> nig, u gotta do this through terminal tho, go to applications, accessorries, terminal
[12:25] <Esco1> joeblow what is about wine?The Programm were i can start Windows programms??
[12:25] <MacSlow> Can anybody create "Server-icons" (I don't know their proper english name, because I'm running a german gnome) under dapper?
[12:25] <nig> i can't enter ??? hda1
[12:25] <Razor-X> bob_4_a_day: I've been using 'em for 13, and Linux for 4 years insofar
[12:25] <JoeBlow> Esco1, whew, that one can be a real biatch, i got it working just today
[12:25] <JoeBlow> Esco1, whew, that one can be a real biatch, i got it working just toda
[12:26] <JoeBlow> Esco1, anyway, dont expect everything to work in it, but some stuff does
[12:26] <bob_4_a_day> Razor-X bout the same on linux.... 4/5 years here.
[12:26] <Misnix> petko, try dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:26] <JoeBlow> nig, ok are u their?
[12:26] <MacSlow> I can create them but they just don't show up... althought their xml-files are created in ~/.nautilus/metafiles
[12:26] <Gunfus> Hey guys. I am getting problems running a executable
[12:26] <Gunfus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7404
[12:26] <Razor-X> Esco1: ``sudo aptitude install wine'' and then ``wine windows-file.exe'' should run Windows-file.exe in Wine :)
[12:26] <Marlun> Razor-X, nope, not working.
[12:27] <zerokarmaleft> !tango
[12:27] <ubotu> zerokarmaleft: Not a clue
[12:27] <MacSlow> Gunfus, hm... seems easy...
[12:27] <nig> yep
[12:27] <Razor-X> Marlun: after the ``killall esd'' ?
[12:27] <JoeBlow> nig, ok type in sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:27] <Razor-X> Marlun: by the way, you use Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[12:27] <MacSlow> Gunfus, sudo apt-get libstdc++5
[12:27] <Gunfus> MacSlow, okay
[12:27] <petko> Misnix,  256 ram is 256000 kb ?
[12:27] <JoeBlow> Escol, what are u trying to run in wine?
[12:27] <petko> write or not :)
[12:27] <MacSlow> Gunfus, wait let me check the exact name again.
[12:27] <petko> because i dont kown
[12:27] <mephis> hello
[12:27] <Gunfus> MacSlow, okay
[12:27] <Esco1> Joeblow like a game?#
[12:27] <mephis> i m new here
[12:28] <JoeBlow> Escol, thats mostly what its for
[12:28] <mephis> what is x windows
[12:28] <Marlun> Razor-X, ubuntu, yess after killall esd
[12:28] <JoeBlow> Escol, mostly for games i think
[12:28] <Esco1> ok
[12:28] <Razor-X> Esco1: Cedega works best for games
[12:28] <mephis> is Gnome or KDE a X windows ?
[12:28] <Razor-X> Esco1: WINE is more for general Windows applications
[12:28] <JoeBlow> Escol, butnot all games work, imve been trying to get a game working for my wife for 10 days and no luck
[12:28] <Marlun> Razor-X, I get "esd: not process killed"
[12:28] <bob_4_a_day> petko roughly speaking,  yes
[12:28] <nig> then an windows appear
[12:28] <Esco1> Razor-x how can i get Cedega
[12:28] <MacSlow> Gunfus, jup package name is ok
[12:28] <JoeBlow> Esco1, www.winehq.com i think shoul dhave what u need
[12:28] <tonyyarusso> petko, (technically 256*1024 kb)
[12:28] <wb> I know there two two tools to convert text files between Linux <-> Windows... what they are called?
[12:28] <JoeBlow> nig ok r u their?
[12:29] <Gunfus> MacSlow, so use jup instead of libstdc++?
[12:29] <JoeBlow> nig u gotta tell me what your seeing whats happening on your eng
[12:29] <JoeBlow> nig u gotta tell me what your seeing whats happening on your end
[12:29] <manish_> hi all
[12:29] <n00b> Ng, still wont work...
[12:29] <nig> it's a window
[12:29] <JoeBlow> nig, does it have your drive info?
[12:29] <nig> GNU nano 1.3.8 file:/etc/fsta
[12:29] <Razor-X> mephis: X Windows is framework in order to display grphics, in order to run X applications, you run an X Server, that starts an XSession, and then an X Client connects to your X Server (generally it's all local), in X, you can run any various Window Manager. Both KDM and GDM are Window Managers
[12:29] <MacSlow> Gunfus, hehe... yes: sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[12:29] <nig> nothing in the window
[12:29] <Razor-X> Marlun: ah, do you run Kubuntu?
[12:29] <Arkady> Does anyone know how to re-configure ubuntu to use ICS from WinXP to access the internet? I have a stable connection to my computer, which is connected to the internet, yet the ubuntu box has no internet.
[12:29] <manish_> i have seen a problem with the Ubuntu India community page..
[12:29] <Gunfus> MacSlow, ahh you got me confused there.. okay
[12:30] <mephis> oh
[12:30] <JoeBlow> nig, ok close the window, reopen terminal and type exactly, sudo nano /etc/fstab
[12:30] <n00b> Ng, where would i be able to get these dependencies? from synaptic?
[12:30] <Gunfus> MacSlow, that was easy..
[12:30] <Marlun> Razor-X, no, I run Ubuntu
[12:30] <Gunfus> MacSlow, excellent.. it worked.. :P
[12:30] <manish_> there are some serious problems with Ubuntu wiki page, regarding the LoCO team .
[12:30] <Gunfus> MacSlow, I meant :D
[12:30] <bob_4_a_day> mephis xwindows  or more specificly  XFree/Xorg  is the GUI that things like gnome kde xfce4 fluxbox.....  run on.  it is the graphical server that those things use to draw what you see on the screen.
[12:30] <Razor-X> Marlun: try ``kill -9 `pgrep esd`'', as a last resort
[12:30] <mephis> so now i run gnome , that means i already run X windows
[12:30] <nig> still the same
[12:30] <mephis> can i try x windows on Ubuntu ?
[12:30] <Razor-X> mephis: yes
[12:31] <Razor-X> mephis: Gnome *is* X Windows
[12:31] <Ng> n00b: yep (inside the chroot), or with apt-get
[12:31] <virogenesis> x windows is what draws gnome
[12:31] <bob_4_a_day> well gnome runs in X
[12:31] <Razor-X> mephis: all Window Managers (KDE, Gnome, Enlightenment, XFce), etc., are
[12:31] <MacSlow> mephis, gnome builds/runs "on top of" X-Windows
[12:31] <JoeBlow> nig, u did sudo nano /etc/fstab, copy and paste it in terminal
[12:31] <Esco1> JoeBlow i have a question about wine i install it and now i want to play for example a game how does it works?
[12:31] <Seveas> !goodmorning
[12:31] <ubotu> Gooooooooooooooooooooooooodmorning #ubuntu! It looks like another beautiful ubuntuous day, may humanity be with you and your problems be solved :)
[12:31] <Razor-X> ah yeah, on top of, my bad
[12:31] <n00b> so would you know what i would have to type for apt-get?
[12:31] <mephis> oh
[12:31] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ok u gotta go to the directory of the game n terminal, then type wine program.exe
[12:31] <Razor-X> Seveas: yeah, it's 3:30 AM for me, so the morning isn't exactly ``good' :)
[12:32] <mephis> how can i reply with your nick at the beginning ?
[12:32] <JoeBlow> Esco1, program being hte name of the prog
[12:32] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, Who decides when we should call it morning in here?
[12:32] <Razor-X> mephis: type in the first few letters of a nickname and hit TAB
[12:32] <mephis> ah
[12:32] <mephis> i see
[12:32] <Arkady> Second attempt - Does anyone know how to re-configure ubuntu to use Internet Connection Sharing from WinXP to access the internet? I have a stable connection to my computer, which is connected to the internet, yet the ubuntu box has no internet.
[12:32] <JoeBlow> nig any luck?
[12:32] <Razor-X> mephis: much easier, trust me :)
[12:32] <mephis> Razor-X, thanks u
[12:32] <Seveas> tonyyarusso, no one, it's just that goodmorning sounds good ;)
[12:32] <MacSlow> ubotu, ok... do you have a clue why server-connections (icons) don't appear on my desktop after I created them (I'm running dapper)
[12:32] <ubotu> MacSlow: I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about
[12:32] <nig> yes...got it ...thx very much
[12:32] <Seveas> Arkady, just use DHCP
[12:32] <MacSlow> damn bots!
[12:33] <Arkady> Why not static?
[12:33] <JoeBlow> nig, u dont need any more help ?
[12:33] <mephis> Razor-X, 1 more thing
[12:33] <Seveas> Arkady, whatever pleases you, both should work
[12:33] <Razor-X> mephis: mmmmhmmm?
[12:33] <tonyyarusso> Seveas, That's true.  I suppose I wouldn't mind being wished a good day at dinnertime either.
[12:33] <mephis> i have used my dictionary
[12:33] <Arkady> Seveas - That's the thing, it doesn't.
[12:33] <Razor-X> mephis: eh?
[12:33] <nig> no...thx....cauze...i get to go out....thank you very much....
[12:33] <Gunfus> MacSlow,  bots are the best
[12:33] <Seveas> Arkady, mii-diag sees link beat?
[12:33] <mephis> Razor-X, but it seems to be a online dic , how i download the whole thing
[12:33] <JoeBlow> nig, oh ok
[12:33] <Arkady> It worked about 20m ago.. And then it stopped. I have no idea why.
[12:33] <nig> very nice of you
[12:33] <Esco1> joebloe how can i go to my sda1 under the console
[12:33] <Seveas> Arkady, rebooted windows?
[12:33] <JoeBlow> Esco1, what game u trying to get running
[12:34] <mephis> Razor-X, i want to search it offline
[12:34] <JoeBlow> Esco1, u gotta install it with wine
[12:34] <ultramancool> or cedega
[12:34] <Arkady> Nope
[12:34] <JoeBlow> or cedega
[12:34] <Razor-X> mephis: try out ``wget -R URI'' where URI is your URI to the root of the dictionary folder
[12:34] <Seveas> odd...
[12:34] <Arkady> What's mii-diag?
[12:34] <Razor-X> mephis: no guarantees, though
[12:34] <Seveas> Arkady, low level tool to tet the signal on the cable
[12:34] <Linuxapprentice> Having logged in, after a while, the screen goes ping or a rgb lines appear. Is it because I haven't installed nvidia drivers?
[12:34] <Seveas> test*
[12:34] <n00b> Ng, okay, i got it to install somehow... but it gave no feed back
[12:34] <mephis> Razor-X, :D
[12:34] <Esco1> ah ok but when the game is on my Windowspatition and now i want to play it under ubuntu
[12:34] <mephis> thanks , i try it
[12:34] <Razor-X> mephis: :P
[12:35] <JoeBlow> Esco1, u have to write to games, so i have found that doesnt really work
[12:35] <n00b> Ng, all it said was that it was setting up cedega 5.0.2 and then i waited and it went back to prompt
[12:35] <JoeBlow> Esco1, unless its fat32
[12:35] <Arkady> Seveas - There is a ping from both system to eachother. The file shares work too. It's only the Internet that's not working.
[12:35] <eroot> what is the commando to see the system info, like degrees mem load etc?!
[12:35] <Razor-X> eroot: top?
[12:35] <eroot> aah :)
[12:35] <Esco1> ah shit ok thank you
[12:35] <Linuxapprentice> Having logged in, after a while, the screen goes ping or a rgb lines appear. Is it because I haven't installed nvidia drivers?
[12:35] <Razor-X> is there a reason everyone here uses fancy punctiation?!
[12:35] <Razor-X> :P
[12:35] <Esco1> i must eat see you later
[12:36] <Seveas> Razor-X, 1337n3ss :)
[12:36] <Razor-X> Seveas: I guess so!!!
[12:36] <Razor-X> :D
[12:36] <JoeBlow> Esco1, ohh ok
[12:36] <Arkady> Any ideas, Seveas?
[12:36] <mephis> Razor-X, what is the best IDE for C on ubuntu ?
[12:36] <JoeBlow> I must smoke, be back later
[12:36] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-(
[12:36] <JoeBlow> :)
[12:36] <Razor-X> mephis: in this case, I'm going to have to say ``try 'em all out''
[12:36] <bob_4_a_day> Razor-X i had not noticed...:)
[12:36] <Linuxapprentice> Having logged in, after a while, the screen goes ping or a rgb lines appear. Is it because I haven't installed nvidia drivers?
[12:36] <mephis> Razor-X, oh , u r right , i need to get more exp
[12:36] <JoeBlow> do u guys know a good prog like gamespy for linux?
[12:37] <Seveas> Arkady, not really, double check to see ICS is still running
[12:37] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, to isntall the nvidia drivers you can do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[12:37] <Seveas> maybe reboot windows =)
[12:37] <Arkady> I hate doing that. :-/
[12:37] <Arkady> Guess I'll give it a try.
[12:37] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:37] <Razor-X> mephis: my own suggestions to try out are: GUI-wise: kedit, kwrite, Anjuta, SciTE, jedit, kate, and CLI-wise: vi, emac
[12:37] <Razor-X> errr
[12:37] <monzie> there's a serious problem with the ubuntu LoCo page Seveas
[12:37] <Razor-X> *vim, emacs, nano (deprecated), aee, joe, mcedit
[12:37] <Linuxapprentice> my main question is if the problem with screen is it cos of the uninstalled drivers
[12:38] <ocoder> can somebody help me set up DRI. my computer locks up after I enable it
[12:38] <tonyyarusso> What's the closest to being able to word-process with formatting in CLI?
[12:38] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:38] <bob_4_a_day> Razor-X don't forget  joe
[12:38] <bigon> hi
[12:38] <Mashman> cool, a busy channel, I might have a chance in hell of fixing my problem ;-)
[12:38] <Razor-X> tonyyarusso: LaTeX
[12:38] <Seveas> monzie, what's the problem?
[12:38] <Razor-X> bob_4_a_day: I added that in
[12:38] <Razor-X> :)
[12:38] <Linuxapprentice> BTW when trying to install Drives I get error u have to connect as root althouh i have logged in as root
[12:38] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, it could be.. but it is also likely that X is not configured correctly
[12:38] <Seveas> monzie, and which URL?
[12:38] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:38] <bob_4_a_day> oh so you did  .
[12:38] <Razor-X> also, I've heard recently about ``mp'' from a friend, don't know how good it is though
[12:38] <ocoder> can somebody help me set up DRI. my computer locks up after I enable it
[12:38] <edvandro> hello?
[12:38] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, did you do sudo apt-get...
[12:39] <monzie> TeamIndia loco team (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IndianTeam) Seveas
[12:39] <mephis> Razor-X, i try every one of each , though it takes time
[12:39] <fli7e> hey, i was wondering if its possible to use ssh forward/tunnel more than one port (specifically a range of ports or all local ports) through an ssh connection using the -L switch?
[12:39] <tonyyarusso> Razor-X, You have a package name for that?
[12:39] <Linuxapprentice> @gunfux: not configured correctly meaning?
[12:39] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, I guess if you are logged in as root you wouldn't need the sudo but..
[12:39] <Razor-X> mephis: trust me, it's better than getting into a huge war over it
[12:39] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:39] <monzie> tried to contact the maintainer so many times
[12:39] <ocoder> i am running a radeon 9600
[12:39] <Razor-X> tonyyarusso: you understand it's not WYSIWYG, right?
[12:39] <fli7e> *to forward/tunnel more than one port
[12:39] <Linuxapprentice> No i didn't so sudo i've downloaad a .run file from nvidia
[12:39] <ocoder> i used the xorg driver, but it still locks up
[12:39] <monzie> not interested in running it at all https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ChNarasimhaSwamy
[12:39] <Seveas> monzie, I see no problem
[12:39] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:39] <bob_4_a_day> can just write raw.    with  echo  or printf    :)
[12:39] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, meaning that the refresh for the Xserver is not matching the monitor refresh rates..
[12:40] <tonyyarusso> Razor-X, Well, I do now.  I suppose it'll be like whatever that program was on the Commodore.
[12:40] <edvandro> Guys, how i configuring the conection to the internet with dial up in ubuntu?
[12:40] <monzie> i run two LUG's here .. Seveas
[12:40] <Gunfus> ubotu, configure xfree86-xserver
[12:40] <ubotu> Gunfus: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:40] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:40] <Gunfus> ubotu, configure xfree86
[12:40] <Razor-X> tonyyarusso: you may want to look at LyX, for a more GUI based one, but the more purist attempts are LaTeX, ar the slightly-more-modern-but-lesser-known ConTeX
[12:40] <ubotu> Gunfus: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[12:40] <monzie> similarly there are lots of people here in bangalore who are great sysadmins
[12:40] <Gunfus> ubotu, configure x
[12:40] <ubotu> Gunfus: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:40] <Linuxapprentice> i've checked and it is at 65Hz my monitor supports 75
[12:40] <Seveas> monzie, ah you mean organizational problems with the team?
[12:40] <selinium> Ihave modified fstab to point /home at another HD. If i wish to point another folder /var/www to the same HD, do i need to partition it?
[12:40] <bob_4_a_day> speaking of  WYSIWYG  ted is nice....  imo
[12:40] <monzie> he's actually doing nothing Seveas
[12:40] <Gunfus> ubotu, configure xfree86
[12:41] <selinium> HI Seveas :)
[12:41] <Seveas> monzie, for such things, simply come up with a plan and come to the CC meeting
[12:41] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:41] <mzinz> I'm taking off the top bar in my interface.  I found out how to put the "menu" button on the bottom, but what about things like System>Preferences and System>Administration... how do i access them without the top bar?
[12:41] <Gunfus> ubotu, configure x86
[12:41] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Gunfus
[12:41] <monzie> CC meeting.. where Seveas ? I stay in bangalore, india
[12:41] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, hmm I am not sure what else it could be then.
[12:41] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, try posting your question agian
[12:41] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?
[12:41] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, sorry man.
[12:41] <tonyyarusso> Razor-X, bob_4_a_day: Thanks.
[12:41] <Seveas> monzie, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[12:41] <ocoder> alright then...
[12:42] <monzie> Ubuntu penetration continues to be low. Lots of people here are interested, but cant use it
[12:42] <selinium> mozie, it is another channel :)
[12:42] <Razor-X> tonyyarusso: ConTeX is better for screen-viewing *and* print-viewing, while LaTeX is only better for screen-viewing, but the next version of LaTeX promises to change that, plus LaTeX has *many* more packages, and has a very robust math environment
[12:42] <imash> Im a linux noob thats trying to switch the head which my graphics card is using. currently my 6800gt is using the analog output, ie my second crappy 17", I need to change this to the second output for my main dvi connection. what do I need to change in xorg.conf?
[12:42] <monzie> they all use RH/Fedora
[12:42] <Seveas> monzie, the community council, bluntly said the rulers of the community meet every two weeks, you can bring problems and suggestions to them
[12:42] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?, Help Me !!
[12:42] <mzinz> I'm taking off the top bar in my interface.  I found out how to put the "menu" button on the bottom, but what about things like System>Preferences and System>Administration... how do i access them without the top bar?
[12:42] <Linuxapprentice> ok confused (busy channel) timeout and start again :)
[12:42] <Linuxapprentice> No i didn't so sudo i've downloaad a .run file from nvidia
[12:42] <Razor-X> Linuxapprentice: heh, think about the people who help out here
[12:42] <Razor-X> ;)
[12:42] <monzie> are you in that Seveas ?
[12:42] <chicken-man> I managed to boot up after disableing hotplug, but now I have no internet, I'm using a ethernet modem :-( why won't it work ?, Help Me !!
[12:42] <Linuxapprentice> No i didn't DO sudo i've downloaad a .run file from nvidia
[12:43] <bob_4_a_day> mzinz if no one else answered you yet.   you can unlock them and drag/drop them to the other bar.... <--- assumes the top bar not gone yet.
[12:43] <Razor-X> chicken-man: please wait about 8 minutes between question iterations
[12:43] <Razor-X> chicken-man: We've heard you, it's just that the answer isn't known
[12:43] <Seveas> monzie, I am not a member of the CC, but I do attend these meetings
[12:43] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, All you then ought to do to install the nvidia drivers
[12:43] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, is what I initially send to you
[12:43] <chicken-man> Razor-X: I don't have time to wait, I've had problems with ubuntu for 2 days !!
[12:44] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, to isntall the nvidia drivers you can do a "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings"
[12:44] <eliasson> Can somebody say a good term that is very clean and easy to style.
[12:44] <ocoder> so does anybody in here know how to set up direct rendering with an ati card?
[12:44] <Gunfus> does anyone remenber the command to recofnigure x..?
[12:44] <Linuxapprentice> I'll try and come back
[12:44] <Gunfus> is something like "sudo dpkg reconfigure xfree86-xorg"
[12:44] <Razor-X> chicken-man: we're not being paid to offer support, so you're going to have to hold your horses, my first Linux install took 2 weeks of tweaking to get the bare essentials working ;)
[12:44] <mzinz> bob_4_a_day, yeah, but then it has apps, places, and system.. i dont need apps because i added the small menu button, and i dont need places at all
[12:44] <mzinz> bob_4_a_day, is there any way to just get system? or an icon for it?
[12:44] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, good luck.. I may not be here
[12:45] <mzinz> bob_4_a_day, i see screenshots and lots of people dont have it around, so im wondering how they access some of the stuff in system like the package manager
[12:45] <chicken-man> Razor-X: lol well it worked on my old system without any problems
[12:45] <ocoder> well my system locks up after i enable direct rendering... it locks up on screensavers and glxgears
[12:45] <bob_4_a_day> chicken-man the two should not be related....  but i can't guerntee that.
[12:45] <Linuxapprentice>  "sudo apt-get install nvidia-settings" is a different process than running the .run file?
[12:45] <bob_4_a_day> mzinz edit the menu and add those thing to it.
[12:46] <Nameeater> there is a great HOWTO on the forum on how to install the nvidia drivers
[12:46] <Linuxapprentice> .run is the file i download from NVidia
[12:46] <chicken-man> bob_4_a_day: well I dunno what the problem is, the clock update thing also fails on startup
[12:46] <Nameeater> google HOWTO nvidia site:ubuntuforums.org
[12:46] <Nameeater> and read that
[12:46] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, yes.. the sudo apt-get ... will go to the Ubuntus respository and get you the drivers without any hazzles
[12:46] <Linuxapprentice> nameeater Link it plz
[12:46] <bob_4_a_day> yeah clock can't update without network.
[12:46] <JoeBlow> how do i run a program that normally runs full screen in a window?
[12:47] <chicken-man> bob_4_a_day: hmmm would installing my old ethernet card work ?
[12:47] <Linuxapprentice> silly question if i install Drivers under Gnome will I have to reinstall them under KDE?
[12:47] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: most of the time, there's no way, unfortunately (unless you have a WM that changes that)
[12:47] <Ng> JoeBlow: afaik there's no standard way of doing that, the program may well provide an option though
[12:47] <Nameeater> no, drivers are a Xorg server setting
[12:47] <Gunfus> Linuxapprentice, no
[12:47] <ocoder> what about ATI
[12:47] <JoeBlow> Ng, i dont htink so, its doom 3
[12:47] <Ng> JoeBlow: I would expect that it will
[12:48] <Razor-X> chicken-man: as long as the network is powered by DHCP, Ethernet would work wonders
[12:48] <Ng> JoeBlow: most of the games I've played on linux offer window or fullscreen options
[12:48] <JoeBlow> Ng, i can lower the resolution and its just surrounded by black where its not filled in
[12:48] <Ng> JoeBlow: have you checked out its video settings page? any advanced sections or anything like that?
[12:48] <JoeBlow> Ng, yea it has full screen option, but it doesnt put it in a window when i turn it off
[12:48] <chicken-man> Razor-X: I don't think it can detect my ethernet card :-/
[12:49] <bob_4_a_day> chicken-man 'sudo /etc/init.d/inetd restart && sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart '   see what errors it spits out.
[12:49] <Razor-X> chicken-man: well, a $5 Ethernet card I picked up from Comp-USA, simple Yum-Cha Comp-USA brand, works fine
[12:49] <Razor-X> it has the tulip chipset, very generic, cheap, and widely supported :)
[12:49] <Ng> JoeBlow: weird
[12:49] <scanwinder> anyone know howto have a program open that dosent go through the window manager and just like sits on the screen in a permanant position?
[12:49] <chicken-man> Razor-X: So if I put my old ethernet card in that worked with Linux it should work ?
[12:49] <Razor-X> chicken-man: yeahp
[12:49] <JoeBlow> Ng, yea its windows doom using native linux install, maybe if i had linux doom it would work
[12:50] <chicken-man> Razor-X: good I'll go get it and install it :P
[12:50] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: if you have the original Doom WADs, then get a Linux Doom engine, and play 'em there
[12:50] <Razor-X> JoeBlow: it's great fun, trust me :)
[12:50] <JoeBlow> Razor-X, im tlaking doom 3
[12:50] <JoeBlow> Razor-X, lol
[12:50] <Razor-X> ah
[12:50] <Razor-X> :P
[12:51] <Razor-X> well, when someone says Doom, I think Doom I or II
[12:51] <JoeBlow> Razor-X yea i understand
[12:51] <JoeBlow> Razor-X, i should install that on linux
[12:51] <Razor-X> yeh, it's fun
[12:51] <JoeBlow> Razor-X, i miss old doom 2
[12:51] <Razor-X> I like playing it in 3D
[12:51] <Razor-X> :)
[12:51] <Razor-X> like true 3D
[12:51] <JoeBlow> Razor-X, theirs an open gl engine for it, its pretty sweet
[12:51] <Razor-X> yeah, I know
[12:51] <Razor-X> Quake is better though
[12:52] <Razor-X> :)
[12:52] <imash> Can anyone give me a pointer on switching between VGA and DVI outputs on my gfx card? Ive got a nice 24" digital screen here, which would be nicer than the crappy 17" crt its currently booting up on....
[12:52] <Gunfus> what cool things can I do with my nvidia..?
[12:52] <Gunfus> in linu
[12:52] <Gunfus> x
[12:52] <imash> glxgears rocks your boat
[12:52] <Nameeater> JoeBlow: http://www.tweakguides.com/Doom3_4.html
[12:52] <Gunfus> imash, nahh..
[12:52] <Nameeater> look down the bottom
[12:52] <Nameeater> 3rd paragraph up
[12:53] <JoeBlow> Nameeater, ty
[12:53] <Nameeater> that is the windows way of doing it but i bet it will work in linux as well
[12:53] <Esco1> anybody now a learn Software for spain Language
[12:53] <Nameeater> !es
[12:53] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:53] <Razor-X> Esco1: if you're more comfortable with Spanish, you may want to try #ubuntu-es
[12:53] <Nameeater> or you mean to learn spanish?
[12:54] <Esco1> Razor-X i mean a software to lern spanish
[12:54] <Razor-X> Esco1: ah, my bad
[12:54] <mickwheelz> hey all
[12:54] <Razor-X> Esco1: no software, best deal is to buy a good book and get crackin'
[12:54] <mickwheelz> rythembox isnt working for me
[12:55] <Razor-X> I can cobble at One Piece untranslated at 22 minute per-page ;)
[12:55] <mickwheelz> it asks if i have ran gst-register. and when i try to run it, it just says command not found
[12:55] <tonyyarusso> Okay, this is officially ridiculous.  Time for me to go start my day!
[12:56] <Razor-X> tonyyarusso: why? don't like LaTeX?
[12:56] <_jason> mickwheelz: it is: gst-register-0.8, read the link ubotu is about to send you
[12:56] <_jason> ubotu: tell mickwheelz about multimedia
[12:56] <Stevis> Hi all
[12:57] <mickwheelz> thanks
[12:57] <Stevis> Can somebody help a first time user?
[12:57] <_jason> Stevis: We can try to help you if you ask a question
[12:57] <bob_4_a_day> !ask
[12:57] <mickwheelz> works perfectly now
[12:57] <Stevis> I installed Ubuntu, but then i couldn't get access to my wireless adapter/router
[12:57] <Stevis> how does linux use hardware devices?
[12:58] <Stevis> i couldn't find anyway to install drivers or whatever
[12:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell Stevis about wifi
[12:58] <Stevis> I am a first time linux user, and basically wanted to get to know it
[12:59] <Stevis> know absolutely nothing about it
[12:59] <Gunfus> so if I want to dual boot with ubuntus.. what does people recomend..to use LILO or the Windows boot loader?
[12:59] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu
[12:59] <ubotu> I guess ubuntu is an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[12:59] <bob_4_a_day> Gunfus lilo  or grub
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: grub
[01:00] <Stevis> i tried partitioning the hd from the ubuntu download, and i succeeded in killing my windows installation lol
[01:00] <Stevis> so how do i install wireless?
[01:00] <tristan_> Gunfu : GRUB
[01:00] <_jason> Stevis: read the link ubotu sent you in a private message
[01:00] <bob_4_a_day> personally i like lilo  but i understand lilo  or at least the config file.
[01:00] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, gnomefreak, do guys really think is better than the Xp boot loader?
[01:00] <bob_4_a_day> Gunfus yes
[01:00] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: xps bootloader will only see xp
[01:01] <Gunfus> I had problems installing GRUB with ubuntus install
[01:01] <gnomefreak> grub will see xp and ubuntu :)
[01:01] <Gunfus> so I had to default to LILO
[01:01] <Stevis> thanks, sorry...didn't see pm lol
[01:01] <bob_4_a_day> personally i like lilo  but i understand lilo  or at least the config file.
[01:01] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: lilo is fine but i perfer grub
[01:01] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, why do you prefer grub, over lilo.?
[01:02] <piki1> ce qualche italiano
[01:02] <gnomefreak> its easier to conf when needed and ive used grub more than lilo
[01:02] <Gunfus> !it
[01:02] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:02] <gnomefreak> !it
[01:02] <piki1> a
[01:02] <Stevis> what do you do about installing graphics cards as well?
[01:02] <bob_4_a_day> there is also  silo  and  other boot loaders that can handle your needs Gunfus
[01:02] <piki1> arrivederci
[01:02] <Stevis> I have a nvidia fx5600
[01:02] <Stevis> fx?
[01:02] <cafuego> silo is for sparc, no?
[01:02] <_jason> ubotu: tell Stevis about nvidia
[01:02] <Gunfus> !nvidia
[01:02] <ubotu> from memory, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[01:03] <gnomefreak> piki1: please speak english in this channel if you want to speak italian please use #ubuntu-it
[01:03] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, I rather stay with the 2 that I know off
[01:03] <Stevis> thanks :)
[01:03] <Gunfus> Stevis, not a problem
[01:04] <Gunfus> ubotu: tell gunfus about nvidia
[01:04] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: its all personal prefferenece but with dual boot DON NOT use xps bootloader
[01:04] <Stevis> thanks
[01:04] <cafuego> gnomefreak: xp's bootloaders witha aprtition grub boot record works just dandy. It's nice to have as a backup anyway.
[01:04] <Stevis> i guess it would be easier for me to get linux running and then come back?
[01:04] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, okay..
[01:04] <gnomefreak> cafuego: it does?
[01:04] <Gunfus> Stevis, it is probably a good idea.
[01:05] <Gunfus> Stevis, :)
[01:05] <Bicchi> how come the new version of banshee is not on backports?
[01:05] <gnomefreak> i never got xps bootloader to see anything but xp :(
[01:05] <_jason> My 'display power manager' settings (in screensaver prefs) do not seem to be working.  I've tried all three options: standby, suspend, off.  All of them fail to do anything.  How can I troubleshoot this?
[01:05] <Gunfus> which one looks better LILO or GRUB..? :P
[01:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Yep. Get the grub record from the first 512b of the partition via 'dd', add the resulting file into XPs boot.ini.
[01:05] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: they are both configureable
[01:05] <liable> Gunfus: what?
[01:05] <Stevis> But, i dont want to have to reinstall windows if it goes pants again, so what would you guys recommend me doing to partition the drive so i can put the 2 on my drive (XP and Ubuntu?
[01:05] <cafuego> gnomefreak: That's how you USED to HAVE to dual-boot WinNT and Linux.
[01:06] <gnomefreak> cafuego: yeah i read about that :(
[01:06] <Gunfus> liable, if I remenber correctly when using grub.. it looked a little nicer because of the colors int eh background.. LILO is just plain black
[01:06] <gnomefreak> my 2000 pro didnt have any issues seeing ubuntu but xp wouldnt (by default
[01:07] <bob_4_a_day> cafuego like i used to keep a copy of the kernel and loadlin on the m$ system in case i needed a way to recover the bootloader   dos boot disk and run loadlin.exe vmlinuz root=<blah>   ....
[01:07] <cafuego> gnomefreak: For instance on my box, I can go from grub to ntldr to grub to ntldr until I get blue in the face.
[01:07] <Gunfus> Stevis, that is correct
[01:07] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: other way around
[01:07] <Gunfus> Stevis, you got all the right answers in your mind
[01:07] <Stevis> so what is the best way to partition my drive?
[01:07] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, really..?!my LILO is just plain black.. maybe I have to look into configure it then
[01:07] <Stevis> i tried the ubuntu partitioner, but it all went wrong
[01:08] <_jason> Stevis: are you installing xp from scratch or you want to keep an existing installation?
[01:08] <Gunfus> Stevis, ohh hmm I am out of date in that area.. I used to use partition magic..
[01:08] <bob_4_a_day> Gunfus you can give it a splash or just ascii colour
[01:08] <gnomefreak> grub by default is black with white text (can be changed) lilo by default is light colors IIPC
[01:08] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, cool.. I will look into that.. then
[01:08] <Gunfus> thanks fuys
[01:08] <Stevis> and then what sort of space would i use with ubuntu fully installed and any addons i may need?
[01:09] <Gunfus> sorry I meant thansk guys
[01:09] <Stevis> should i give it 60gb?
[01:09] <bob_4_a_day> lilo by default is white on black
[01:09] <Stevis> for program and files too?
[01:09] <cafuego> Stevis: 12GB tops fopr system stuff, rest for /home
[01:09] <gnomefreak> Stevis: if you use 60gigs for a ubuntu install you have wayyyyyyyyyy too much stuff
[01:09] <Gunfus> Stevis, the typicall dual boot question.. :)
[01:09] <olicat> Stevis, 60 is plenty. i'd use that as 35 for / at least 512Mb for swap, the rest for /home
[01:09] <Stevis> _jason....i already have xp installed, and i want to add linux on to the drive as a second os
[01:09] <cafuego> Stevis: Probably 6 to 8 GB for /, 512Mb swap, rest /home
[01:10] <Stevis> ok...lost me now
[01:10] <bob_4_a_day> hehhe olicat and i would have no swap.  6g /  and the rest unpartitioned for what ever came up that i wanted to use ti for...
[01:11] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, no swap?
[01:11] <monzie> hmm, did it Seveas , thanks
[01:11] <bob_4_a_day> olicat  i have no swap now.
[01:11] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, expect problems
[01:11] <bob_4_a_day> no sir.
[01:11] <olicat> yes sir
[01:12] <bob_4_a_day> actually i would have a swap partition on this system because it only has 64m ram but i needed all the hdd  so no swap either.
[01:13] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, no swap is stupid. the kernel relies on it
[01:13] <bob_4_a_day> it does not.
[01:13] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, it does
[01:13] <bob_4_a_day> yeah what ever.
[01:14] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, you're new to unix then?
[01:14] <Gunfus> ttyl guys.. time to go to work and fix bugs.. :D
[01:14] <bob_4_a_day> yep only been using about 5 years.
[01:14] <bob_4_a_day> with no swap
[01:14] <gnomefreak> has anyone tried the fix for xserver in dapper yet?
[01:14] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, gnomefreak , now all I need is a cool image for my BIOS and a even Cooler for my LILO :D
[01:15] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: you can add image to either boot loader
[01:15] <chris> !w32codecs
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[01:15] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, yea.. I was just reading about it.. which is why i said.. now all I need is a cool image.. :D
[01:16] <bob_4_a_day> lol Gunfus.... it is possable to load linux into the bios,   errr so i've heard.  never tried that.
[01:16] <gnomefreak> :)
[01:16] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, you've been setting up your linux installs wrongly for 5 years. this page should be on your level http://www.newlinuxuser.com/explanation-do-i-need-a-swap-partition-and-if-so-how-big/
[01:16] <davidw> hey dudes - what's the consensus in terms of backup software for a small office?
[01:16] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, WHAT?? into my bios.. hmm .. ehh.. well .. I don't think I want to try that yet.. I am just going to put a nice pretty image.. that is all
[01:17] <olicat> davidw, rsnapshot
[01:17] <bob_4_a_day> olicat go away.   it is not wrong if it is the way i want it.  it's my linux on my hardware.   thanks but keep the link
[01:18] <olicat> bob_4_a_day, no, i won't go away. if you're going to give out BAD advice, you shouldn't give advice at all
[01:18] <selinium> Seveas, SOrry to pester you direct, but if I want to point /var/www to another in fstab. Does it need it's own seperate partition?
[01:18] <bob_4_a_day> Gunfus yeah i was a bit scidish about messing my bios too
[01:18] <bob_4_a_day> :)
[01:18] <Gunfus> bob_4_a_day, thanks for the hint though..
[01:18] <Gunfus> tata for now guys
[01:18] <mirak> I have a problem with a makefile. It installs a module in  the wrong folder http://pastebin.com/514450
[01:18] <davidw> olicat, hrm... looks ok - what's better/worse about it than, say, bacula, rdiff-backup, etc... ? (I see it doesn't have a windows client - not a showstopper, but... doesn't help)
[01:19] <tristan_> Do you only have gnom or do you use both gnome and KDE?
[01:19] <olicat> davidw, it uses rsync, so the it only stores day 1's data. day 2's data will only contain what is new since day one, etc etc
[01:19] <olicat> i'm using it to back up machines handling email with about 1Terrabyte of data, and it's pretty quick
[01:20] <davidw> I see... the need here is more for security and lots of small, disparate machines that don't really have that much data
[01:20] <bob_4_a_day> i'll tell ya what olicat you may be right,  i have no business here at all.    good day to one and all.
[01:20] <olicat> davidw, it wouldn't be too hard to write a windows client around it
[01:21] <selinium> olicat rsnapshot? I will have to have alook at that. Is it just rsync with a gui?
[01:21] <olicat> selinium, rsync with automation around it. i'm not using a gui, but one may exist
[01:21] <davidw> olicat, well, it would be possible to tell our windows users "put anything you care about on the samba machine"
[01:21] <JoeBlow> any of u guys ever run game spy on wine?
[01:21] <selinium> olicat, Cheers
[01:21] <olicat> davidw, you could use ifolder for something like that
[01:23] <selinium> If I want to point /var/www to another HD in fstab. Does it need it's own seperate partition? The HD in question already has /home on it?
[01:23] <goodi_> is it possible to save the current position/'type' of windows - while shuting down - and get them restored automaticly?
[01:24] <tristan_> How can I loer the siez of the font I use to diplay the file names on my desktop?
[01:24] <selinium> tristan_, System/poreferences/fonts  :)
[01:25] <JoeBlow> wow, the all seeing eye was the easiest thing ive ever got working on wine
[01:27] <allison_1984> how should I connect to the server files ?
[01:27] <Bicchi> How come the new version of banshee is not on backports?
[01:27] <raphink> Bicchi: because if you want to backport it you're welcome to work
[01:27] <tristan_> thanks selinium. And if I don't want that the name of the file is split under the icon, is there anyway to do that?
[01:28] <Bicchi> raphink: how?
[01:28] <raphink> first by making sure it is in dapper
[01:28] <raphink> before being backported to breezy it has to be in dapper
[01:28] <selinium> tristan, sorry, i dont understand the question.  :) Do a screenshot and show me if need be.
[01:29] <raphink> then working on the package so it builds in breezy
[01:29] <eliasson> how do i quit X and go to console-mode?
[01:29] <raphink> Bicchi: backporting is not the easiest work ever, and it's really really far from being a priority
[01:29] <liable> Bicchi: believe it or not, no-one actually gets paid to do this, so dont whinge when its not done according to when you think it should be.
[01:29] <gnomefreak> Bicchi: you will see alot of things in the backports after dapper is released or even frozen but for now everything is in testing (seeing how things work together
[01:29] <raphink> yep
[01:30] <Bicchi> thank you all
[01:30] <raphink> and we've got enough work in dapper right now without thinking of backporting stuff
[01:30] <Xenguy> eliasson: for console, just do Ctrl-Alt-F2
[01:30] <gnomefreak> raphink: you arnt kidding :)
[01:30] <raphink> gnomefreak: no I aren't... I'm working on dapper 10 hours a day lately ;)
[01:30] <gnomefreak> damn
[01:30] <Hoxzer> how can I test if my bluetooth -> USB adabter is working on windows?
[01:31] <Hoxzer> *linux
[01:31] <Hoxzer> :D
[01:31] <tristan_> selinium : http://perso.ens-lyon.fr/tristan.ferroir/Capture.png
[01:31] <gnomefreak> raphink:  :) good than give me a hint on something
[01:31] <gnomefreak> ;p;
[01:31] <raphink> on what gnomefreak ?
[01:31] <Ng> Hoxzer: run hciconfig in a terminal, it will list any available bluetooth interfaces
[01:31] <tristan_> selinium : do you see the pdf file Luck - Coupled Cu and O excesses....
[01:31] <minwoo> ?
[01:31] <gnomefreak> i did everything as i was told to and X still isnt working :(
[01:31] <minwoo> ???
[01:31] <minwoo> im korea
[01:31] <raphink> gnomefreak: when did you upgrade?
[01:31] <minwoo> haha~~
[01:32] <tristan_> selinium : I want the text to be less splitted/ less split (don't know if it is an irregular verb)
[01:32] <gnomefreak> raphink: i have dapper on hda that i did the upgrades for lastnight and breezy on hdb that runs fine as always
[01:32] <raphink> gnomefreak: I mean you installed dapper yesterday?
[01:32] <gnomefreak> raphink: yes
[01:33] <raphink> gnomefreak: dapper is broken since yesterday
[01:33] <raphink> x is broken in dapper that is
[01:33] <raphink> it's being worked on :)
[01:33] <gnomefreak> raphink: yeah i know that but there is a fix that i tried that worked for others
[01:33] <_jason> gnomefreak: I think creating symlinks was one of the options given
[01:33] <raphink> which is ?
[01:33] <Mez> raphink: weird thing is - It's pretty eaxy to fix
[01:33] <selinium> tristan_, The only way I think you can do it is using underscores,,  Luck_-_CU_and_excesses....
[01:33] <raphink> _jason: i think another option is wait for tomorow
[01:33] <raphink> tomorrow
[01:33] <_jason> raphink: ha yep
[01:33] <raphink> the X source is already in, it just has to be built
[01:34] <Misnix-afk> stamp feet\
[01:34] <gnomefreak> replacing /usr/X11R6/bin/X with /usr/bin/X11/Xorg in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf :)
[01:34] <Mez> sudo ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/bin/X11/X
[01:34] <tristan_> selinium : OK, I'll try that. Thanks
[01:34] <raphink> gnomefreak: that will modify your system for nothing really
[01:34] <raphink> a new X source package was uploaded this morning
[01:35] <raphink> just wait
[01:35] <gnomefreak> ok cool ty
[01:35] <gnomefreak> Mez: i heard the sym link wasnt working for it
[01:35] <Seveas> Mez, symlinking around it is a bad idea...
[01:35] <Mez> gnomefreak, works for me
[01:35] <raphink> hi seveas
[01:35] <goodi_> is it possible to save the current position of the application windows - and restore them while restarting?
[01:35] <gnomefreak> in the bug others have tried it and said didnt work
[01:35] <Mez> Seveas: lol - true - but meh ... it fixed it for me (I had to work that one out myself!)
[01:35] <lek> Hmm, im trying to get to console-mode but alt+ctrl+f12 dont work, just a black screen with a blinking dot... any other idea?
[01:36] <selinium> any fstab gurus about?
[01:36] <Seveas> selinium, shoot
[01:36] <raphink> selinium: what's your issue with fstab?
[01:36] <raphink> seveas: did you see lilo?
[01:36] <_jason> lek: how about f1
[01:36] <lek> alt + ctrl + f1? :(
[01:36] <Seveas> raphink, no, I've been learning for an exam I had today
[01:36] <_jason> lek: yeah?
[01:36] <raphink> seveas: how did it go?
[01:37] <selinium> Hi Seveas :) I have fstab pointing /home to seperate HD. I would like to point /var/www to the same HD. Does it need a seperate partition?
[01:37] <lek> are you sure this time due i dont want to reboot every time :)
[01:37] <raphink> seveas: i'm still in den haag for about a week I think btw ;)
[01:37] <_jason> lek: this time?  why would you need to reboot?
[01:37] <raphink> selinium: yes
[01:37] <Seveas> raphink, it didn't go too bad, should be ok :)
[01:37] <lek> ill try
[01:37] <raphink> unless you have a partition mounted on /var/www already and you want to bind it somewhere else
[01:37] <_jason> lek: wait
[01:37] <_jason> lek: are you in X now?
[01:38] <raphink> seveas: good :)
[01:38] <lek> _jason: im trying to install the NVIDIA drivers and its complaining about that X is running
[01:38] <selinium> raphink, THat meant nothing to me! lol . I do not have a /www folder yet. I just want to keep it seperate from the OS drive.
[01:38] <lek> By typing alt+ctrl+f1 wont kill it. :(
[01:39] <virogenesis> gdm running lek? :P
[01:39] <_jason> lek: login and kill it ^
[01:39] <raphink> selinium: ok then if you want /var/www separate, you need a partition for it
[01:39] <lek> _jason: is that so good?
[01:39] <mahangu> i need a simple word processor, something other than open office
[01:39] <lek> virogenesis: yes, gdmn is running.
[01:39] <selinium> raphink, Cheers! :) I will fire up gparted then! :)
[01:39] <raphink> selinium: you can't use one partition for both /var/www and /home as far as I know if that's what you meant
[01:39] <_jason> lek: well when I installed mine, I didn't get anything like that.  Are you installing through synaptic?
[01:40] <raphink> mahangu: abiword
[01:40] <lek> _jason: NIVIDIA you mean?
[01:40] <_jason> lek: yeah, nvidia
[01:40] <mahangu> raphink, it doesn't do spellings, does it?
[01:40] <raphink> mahangu: or gedit if you want something very basic
[01:40] <Seveas> raphink, I'll get you a cloak now if you buy me a beer next thursday ;)
[01:40] <lek> no, ive downloading the drivers from their homepage.
[01:40] <raphink> mahangu: yes it does I think
[01:40] <selinium> raphink, That is the answer to my badly formatted question. Cheers! :)
[01:40] <lek> is that the same then?
[01:40] <lek> as the apt
[01:40] <_jason> lek: it's probably easier with apt/synaptic
[01:40] <_jason> ubotu: tell lek about nvidia
[01:40] <selinium> raphink, Thanks for your help! :)
[01:40] <mahangu> raphink, a spell check is there, but not very functional
[01:40] <raphink> seveas: i'm not sure to be still here next thursday so i can't promise
[01:41] <Seveas> raphink, ok, how about monday then ;) (btw: i already poked lilo)
[01:41] <raphink> mahangu: you want something that has good spellcheck like Ooo but that is lighter ?
[01:41] <mirak> I have a problem with a makefile. It installs a module in  the wrong folder http://pastebin.com/514450
[01:41] <virogenesis> lek, http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/3D_Graphic_Cards
[01:41] <mahangu> raphink, yes
[01:41] <gnomefreak> abiword
[01:41] <raphink> mahangu: in clear you want the advanatges of Ooo without the inconvenients ?
[01:41] <raphink> ;)
[01:41] <mahangu> gnomefreak, abiword doesn't spell check properly for me
[01:41] <virogenesis> that is what i used when setting up
[01:41] <raphink> seveas: thanks for poking lilo :) monday could be nice
[01:42] <raphink> virogenesis: did you restart X ?
[01:42] <mahangu> raphink, yesh ;-)
[01:42] <raphink> mahangu: guess why people use either abiword or Ooo on GNOME ?
[01:42] <raphink> mahangu: you can switch to KDE and use Koffice
[01:42] <gnomefreak> mahangu: i dont use it but i hear its pretty good :) i use OOo :)
[01:42] <raphink> ;)
[01:43] <narzy> I like OOo but I think its UI is fugly
[01:43] <virogenesis> raphink, i was using command line when i first did it
[01:43] <raphink> virogenesis: you still need to restart X
[01:43] <narzy> its a great peice of software but it's not the icandy that MS:Office is.
[01:43] <raphink> huhu
[01:43] <virogenesis> yeah
[01:43] <raphink> MSOffice ... eyecandy
[01:43] <raphink> huhu
[01:44] <narzy> raphink, whats the best way to restart X anyways?
[01:44] <raphink> MSoffice for Mac maybe ;)
[01:44] <tore> is it possible to have the breezy installer use additional modules from a floppy?  I need the megaraid_sas module in order to use the internal storage.
[01:44] <raphink> narzy: hmm kill it :)
[01:44] <narzy> MS office on  win is "pretty" too.
[01:44] <gnomefreak> m$ office is also 300 dollars :(
[01:44] <narzy> how do you startx?
[01:44] <mahangu> raphink, koffice, can i run that with gnome?
[01:44] <gnomefreak> narzy: startx :)
[01:44] <raphink> mahangu: yes you can, but that will slow down your gnome, since it will load kde libs
[01:44] <virogenesis> you can run ms office using softoffice i think its called its like cedega
[01:44] <narzy> gnomefreak read my question you'll get the joke.
[01:45] <raphink> mahangu: I don't see the point of keep using gnome if you use kde apps
[01:45] <mahangu> oh wait it does spell check
[01:45] <mahangu> my bad
[01:45] <mahangu> just takes some time
[01:45] <narzy> cedga is for games bro
[01:45] <gnomefreak> lol oops sorry :)
[01:45] <Hoxzer> where is ubuntu's boot-script located?
[01:45] <narzy> just a guess.
[01:45] <Sh4d0x> shadox reporting in
[01:45] <narzy> ./boot
[01:45] <raphink> Hoxzer: sorry?
[01:45] <virogenesis> i know its a version like cedega but for apps
[01:46] <raphink> what do you mean exactly by that Hoxzer ?
[01:46] <narzy> virogenesis: you mean wine?
[01:46] <Hoxzer> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34740&highlight=obexserver <- I read that guide and at the end of it says "Everytime that you reboot you must re apply this things (which you could insert into a boot-script)"
[01:46] <virogenesis> crossover office
[01:47] <narzy> what is the lightest yet best looking WM?
[01:47] <narzy> (windows manage)
[01:47] <redguy> Hoxzer: if youre referring to soemthing like rc.boot, there is no such thing on ubuntu/debian. Boot scripts are located in /etc/init.d and they are run from /etc/rc<runlevel>.d
[01:47] <gnomefreak> xfce?
[01:47] <raphink> narzy: fluxbox
[01:47] <raphink> if well set
[01:47] <_jason> narzy: you can get fluxbox to look pretty good, try that and xfce
[01:47] <raphink> for the speed
[01:47] <raphink> for the look i'd say KDE
[01:48] <gnomefreak> fluxbox is wayyyyyyyyyy light
[01:48] <raphink> but then hey it's just my favourite one so ;)
[01:48] <redguy> !tell Hoxzer about initscript
[01:48] <virogenesis> xfce is nice...xubuntu :)
[01:48] <narzy> I've got a xbox running linux (gentoox) and it's just too damn slow
[01:48] <mahangu> narzy, control+alt+backspace
[01:48] <raphink> narzy: fluxbox or blackbox then
[01:48] <raphink> fluxbox takes about 5MB in RAM iirc
[01:48] <gnomefreak> xfce is the perfect inbetween its light and looks good and easy customizible
[01:49] <narzy> sweet
[01:49] <Sh4d0x> what is fluxbox? :$
[01:49] <CarinArr> btw.. why you running c4d 9.521?
[01:49] <CarinArr> er
[01:49] <_jason> does fluxbox build easily?  I might try to build it and run it one day
[01:49] <narzy> ctrl alt bksp? whats that do?
[01:49] <raphink> _jason: build ?
[01:49] <CarinArr> wrong window
[01:49] <redguy> narzy: shut down X
[01:49] <raphink> _jason: why would you build it?
[01:49] <GameCat> hi - I'm trying to update a fresh 5.10 install, and getting the following error: Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/main/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:49] <GameCat> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy-security/universe/binary-i386/Packages.gz  MD5Sum mismatch
[01:49] <GameCat> any ideas?
[01:49] <_jason> Sh4d0x: http://fluxbox.sourceforge.net/ first paragraph :)
[01:49] <narzy> redguy that sounds like a bad idea ;)
[01:49] <cafuego> GameCat: Use a different mirror.
[01:49] <raphink> redguy: kill X is more of what it does ;)
[01:49] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: fluxbox is a WM that is fairly empty and very very light as default
[01:50] <GameCat> cafuego: how do i find one?
[01:50] <redguy> narzy: raphink is more precise
[01:50] <narzy> ahh. it still seems like a bad idea ;)
[01:50] <cafuego> GameCat: XX.archive.ubuntu./com where XX is any 2-letter country code.
[01:50] <Sh4d0x> aha :D cool thnx gnomefreak
[01:50] <virogenesis> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7406 <--- can someone see what is wrong with this i've gotten the information off of linuxquestions.org
[01:51] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: yw but remember if fluxbox isnt for you there are a total of like 5 or more boxes
[01:51] <virogenesis> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?s=&threadid=344887 thats where i got the information just doesn't seem to work for me
[01:51] <gnomefreak> to me they are all the same :(
[01:51] <raphink> virogenesis: first of all, using make with sudo is not a good idea
[01:51] <raphink> imo
[01:51] <gnomefreak> sudo checkinstall :)
[01:52] <Seveas> raphink, poke
[01:52] <Seveas> --- [raphink]  (n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink) : Raphink
[01:52] <raphink> yep got a PV from lilo thanks much seveas
[01:52] <virogenesis> well i've tried it multiply times and never seems to work for me
[01:52] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, i'm working in gnome envrironment, but i guess i leave my ubuntu like it is atm
[01:52] <narzy> I can't get ubuntu to install on this box, my raid0 never gets recognized.
[01:53] <narzy> and I just don't enjoy kernel haxoring
[01:53] <narzy> it's not that fun ;)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: the first month i used ubuntu i used ever Wm i could think of or find so i can get the feel for them :) knowing that i was doing things i shouldnt have with ubuntu i knew i was gonna have to re-install :)
[01:54] <virogenesis> raphink,  i did make before i did sudo make but it need permissions you see :)
[01:54] <gnomefreak> s/ever/every
[01:54] <cafuego> 'make' needs root? What on earth are you building?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> makeinstall need root
[01:54] <quad_> You guys always seem ready to help, right?
[01:54] <gnomefreak> make doesnt :(
[01:55] <gnomefreak> quad_: for the most part :)
[01:55] <quad_> Well gnomefreak, ive lost my keys for the house... what should I do??
[01:55] <cafuego> quad_: Sometimes. I try to be suitably arbitrary.
[01:55] <virogenesis> what needed it then
[01:55] <gnomefreak> quad_: call someone with a key?
[01:55] <cafuego> quad_: 1) Call the person with your spare keys. 2) Call a locksmith.
[01:56] <gnomefreak> 3) climb in window try to not brake it first
[01:56] <no0tic> HiddenFly, on dapper cpufreq doesnt work anymore, I have an AMD Athlon-XP (powernow-k7 module doesn't load)
[01:56] <virogenesis> must be thinking of something else
[01:56] <quad_> I am inside the house right now... the problem being, i'm invited to this party later on, but I cant leave the house with out a key!!  :/
[01:56] <narzy> dude where do you live?
[01:56] <gnomefreak> quad_: get a spare adn go make a copy :)
[01:57] <quad_> gnomefreak, yeah... probably could...
[01:57] <narzy> ^^^4 quad
[01:57] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, till yet i had 6 xserver error's it scared me a bit experimenting with it :$ 5 time i did a format to repear the xserver (didn't know better) last time i recoverd the back of xorg.conf, but still scared a bit
[01:57] <redguy> quad_: how about locking the front door and leaving through the window?
[01:57] <narzy> and how old are you?
[01:57] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: its always scarey to work on something new :)
[01:57] <quad_> but what bothers me the most, is I had this ol' fancy bottleopener linked on the the keys... im gonna cry if thats gone :(
[01:58] <ki4ikl> what i sthe file in ubuntu that tells me about libdvdcss?
[01:58] <quad_> ...thus, I cant open beers as much any more :)
[01:58] <gnomefreak> ok quad_ can we please take this to #ubuntu-offtopic now?
[01:58] <ki4ikl> Does anyone know the file that has info about libdvdcss?
[01:58] <deFrysk> ki4ikl, sudo /usr/share/doc/libdvdread3/examples/install-css.sh
[01:58] <quad_> hehe ok gnomefreak :)
[01:58] <narzy> quad_: how old are you?
[01:58] <ki4ikl> thankyou deFrysk
[01:59] <quad_> narzy, 22
[01:59] <narzy> quad_: and you have to sneak out of the house?
[01:59] <narzy> I think I missed somthing
[02:00] <quad_> No - i have to GO out of the house, then I have to lock the door... going to #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:01] <narzy> leave a window unlocked...
[02:01] <narzy> atleast that was my old tactic
[02:01] <narzy> sneak out, get high, rinse, repeat
[02:03] <troop> how can i uninstall firefox on ubuntu ?
[02:05] <_jason> troop: with synaptic, but a lot of these depend on the firefox package and will go down with it
[02:05] <gnomefreak> troop: FF is installed by default
[02:05] <_jason> troop: s/these/things
[02:05] <troop> but i get segmentation fault
[02:06] <troop> i dont know resolving.i think re-install.
[02:06] <_jason> troop: with FF1.07 (default) ?
[02:06] <troop> i think 1.5
[02:06] <troop> but i dont know.it cant open
[02:06] <_jason> troop: did it ever not seg fault?
[02:06] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak, is there possibility to make 1.5 the default, iso 1.0.7  (ff)
[02:07] <gnomefreak> troop: 1.0.7 is default
[02:07] <troop> before ths ?
[02:07] <gnomefreak> Sh4d0x: yes during the upgrade process
[02:07] <_jason> troop: I mean, since you installed FF1.5 were you ever able to open it without it seg faulting
[02:07] <troop> thank you
[02:07] <troop> i was using without problem
[02:07] <troop> but today everything changed.
[02:08] <_jason> troop: try running 'firefox -safe-mode' and see if it will open
[02:08] <teclis> hello, I tried evolution as a usenetclient. if I write a new Post to a group, I will get a Write-Mail-Window everytime (to-field is shown by default instead of post-to newsgroup and groupname isn't filled in). Is their a possibility to fix it?
[02:08] <allison_1984> anyone using skype ?
[02:08] <teclis> yes , allison_1984
[02:08] <troop> i uninstalled with apt now as learnt.
[02:08] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak: aha, and again learned something usefull :D
[02:08] <troop> im install again.
[02:09] <_jason> troop: ok
[02:09] <allison_1984> teclis: everything works ?
[02:09] <allison_1984> my sound does not, the outgoing atleast
[02:10] <teclis> allison_1984: I have a plantronics headset with a dsp. the ring sound is played on the headset. That's the one problem I have
[02:11] <allison_1984> teclis: thing is I can hear the caller but he cannot hear me
[02:11] <juliux> hi knows somebody why security.ubuntu.com is so slow ?
[02:11] <troop> olley it fixed
[02:11] <teclis> allison_1984: maybe a firewall-problem?
[02:11] <allison_1984> teclis: I don't think its a firewall
[02:12] <teclis> allison_1984: or the microphone is muted?
[02:12] <Sh4d0x> gnomefreak: can you help me with cedega or some program that can handle games? i installed wine, could install it, but the game wouldn't run
[02:13] <Gordy3> hey guys, I made some changes to my xorg.conf and stuffed it up. gdm is auto-loading on startup...how do i kill it as i need to get to terminal? thanks in advance
[02:13] <allison_1984> teclis: no
[02:14] <suma> hi.. i cannot remove the line with os/kernel version/arch from /etc/motd.... i edited the file and rebooted several times, but each time the line comes back... can anyone help me out please?
[02:14] <teclis> allison_1984: ok, you can record your voice to a file and hear it? what makes you sure about?
[02:14] <Gordy3> ohh before some one says ctrl+alt+backspace....no good. gdm launches afain....i even made a xorg backup...
[02:14] <allison_1984> teclis: echo does not play back my voice too
[02:15] <teclis> Does anyone use evolution for News-Reading?
[02:15] <_jason> Gordy3: you can get to a terminal with ctrl+alt+f1, you can kill gdm (if you still need to) with /etc/init.d/gdm stop, iirc
[02:16] <raphink> grrrr freenode :sssssssssssssssss
[02:16] <Gordy3> _jason...cheers thanks...I had no idea avout that....thanks again.
[02:16] <teclis> allison_1984: ok, that's ok, but can you record your voice with "audio recorder"? (I don't know the english version, I use german)
[02:17] <aaron_c> hi all, can someone help me set my ip details via the terminal :) thanks
[02:17] <Arkady> Hello again. I am having trouble getting a VNC server to run. The problem is that I don't have the correct fonts in /usr/x11r6/lib/x11/  but I can't copy anything to that folder.. Any ideas?
[02:17] <_jason> Gordy3: np
[02:17] <pappan> aaron_c: ifconfig
[02:17] <aaron_c> i have changed the ip, but dont know how to do the gateway and subnet mask
[02:18] <pappan> aaron_c: are you connecting to an internal network ?
[02:18] <aaron_c> yeah
[02:18] <aaron_c> but i am installing proftpd so i need to assign it a static internal ip
[02:18] <bandfm> 'lo
[02:18] <pappan> aaron_c: do you know what class of network it is ?
[02:18] <aaron_c> sorry, what do u mean by class?
[02:18] <aaron_c> im too used to easy windows lol
[02:19] <bandfm> I installed 6.04 today from the flight3 cd, but I'm having trouble with the airport driver and mouse [this is an ibook g4] .
[02:19] <ardchoille> seems I can't "make", I get an error complaining about cc not found. Am I missing a package that allows me to compile source code?
[02:19] <Gordy3> Arkady: you need to su before you can copy fonts there.
[02:19] <pappan> aaron_c: in windows are the network mask and gateway is automatically assigned ??
[02:19] <allison_1984> teclis: with echo ?
[02:19] <bandfm> For some reason I can't detect my network although the airport card is detected, and the trackpad is hellish slow
[02:19] <_jason> ardchoille: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:19] <pappan> aaron_c: what is the static ip address you have chosen now
[02:19] <ardchoille> _jason: ah hah, thank you
[02:19] <Arkady> pappan - How do I copy files through terminal?
[02:19] <suma> does nobody know how to remove the "Linux GATEWAY 2.6.12-9-386 #1 Mon Oct 10 13:14:36 BST 2005 i686 GNU/Linux" line from /etc/motd?? or what makes the line keep coming back?
[02:19] <allison_1984> teclis: which one did you download ? the deb or the rpm with alien version ?
[02:20] <aaron_c> the router we use assigns the gateway, 10.0.0.1, and the subnet mask 255.255.255.0 to the machines that use dhcp
[02:20] <pappan> Arkady: what kind of copy ?
[02:20] <teclis> allison_1984: the deb
[02:20] <aaron_c> i have used 10.0.0.8, as its in my block of reserved ips that the dhcp doesnt dish out
[02:20] <Arkady> pappan - Preferable creating a link to folder
[02:20] <Arkady> Because I think I know where the fonts are
[02:21] <teclis> allison_1984: echo? did you record your voice and played it back? Does this work?
[02:21] <ompaul> suma, sudo gedit file
[02:21] <allison_1984> teclis: I recorded, and I can't hear my voice from the recording
[02:21] <pappan> aaron_c: using the same setting should work now also
[02:21] <allison_1984> teclis: does yours work ?
[02:21] <suma> ompaul, i have edited the file as root... every time i reboot, the line comes back :0
[02:21] <Arkady> pappan - Just copying over a folder from another location would also be good. I just don't know the command.
[02:22] <allison_1984> teclis: I am gonna try this one ...https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[02:22] <bandfm> Xorg is using the "mouse" driver, is there a driver which would be better suited to an iBook trackpad?
[02:22] <allison_1984> ompaul: hey
[02:22] <teclis> allison_1984: okay, I think your microphone is muted or something like that. do you use alsa oder esd?
[02:22] <ompaul> suma, doh! it is generated on boot up
[02:22] <pappan> Arkady: do ln -s OldFontLocation NewFontLoaction
[02:22] <allison_1984> reclis: its OSS I think ...not alsa
[02:23] <ompaul> suma, type >>stat /etc/motd<<
[02:23] <ompaul> allison_1984, hi
[02:23] <raphink> sorry guys for flooding like this... doing my best to find out what's wrong
[02:23] <pappan> aaron_c: try netstat -in to see which interface you are using
[02:23] <pappan> aaron_c: then use ifconfig command
[02:23] <aaron_c> ok
[02:23] <ompaul> raphink, dont use a pastebin to put all your info online and then just point to the url
[02:24] <raphink> ompaul, OT nm
[02:24] <raphink> ;)
[02:24] <aaron_c> im using eth0, what do i type after ifconfig to set the gateway and subnet mask
[02:24] <suma> ompaul, cool. what am i looking for in that output?
[02:24] <allison_1984> teclis: how sahll I find out the default sound ?
[02:24] <allison_1984> shall
[02:25] <raphink> ompaul, thanks for telling me how to use a pastebin, not sure this will be very useful to me right now ;)
[02:25] <ompaul> suma, the fact it was created when you last booted
[02:25] <aaron_c> so fart i have sudo ifcongig etc0 10.0.0.8
[02:25] <aaron_c> -t
[02:25] <teclis> allison_1984: wait a moment. I read something in a german tutorial. I will try to translate
[02:25] <suma> ompaul, any idea how i can prevent this from happening?
[02:26] <teclis> allison_1984: are you using kde or gnome?
[02:26] <ompaul> suma, I can have a look at it, if you care to hang about for a few mins
[02:26] <allison_1984> teclis: thanks
[02:26] <allison_1984> teclis: gnome
[02:27] <suma> ompaul, sure.. as i have currently deleted the file, i'll reboot and be back on in a minute or so... just tell me when u can check it out.
[02:27] <redguy> aaron_c: why won't you just edit /etc/network/interfaces?
[02:27] <allison_1984> teclis: well, I will connect from home, going from the office now, catch you soon phaps
[02:27] <teclis> allison_1984: You can add the following to your /etc/apt/sources.list: deb http://download.skype.com/linux/repos/debian/ stable non-free
[02:27] <ompaul> it needs to be zero length heh
[02:28] <allison_1984> teclis: I have that already on the repos
[02:28] <ompaul> ohh well
[02:28] <teclis> allison_1984: okay
[02:28] <allison_1984> teclis: thanks :)
[02:28] <pappan> redguy: yes thats needed if the settings has to remain across reboot
[02:29] <redguy> pappan: aaron_c desn't want that?
[02:29] <pappan> redguy: yes i think so..
[02:30] <aaron_c> yeah i want the settings to remain static
[02:30] <aaron_c> tell me what to type into interfaces file and i will change it
[02:30] <redguy> aaron_c: read man interfaces, it's alle xplained there
[02:31] <redguy> s/e / e/
[02:31] <pappan> 10.0.0.1 and 255.255.255.0 should work
[02:32] <tux-rox> Anyone running Breezy, evolution 2.4.1 connected to an Exchange server? My Calendar module keeps crashing and it is very annoying....
[02:33] <pappan> it would b good if ubuntu shells are given
[02:33] <pappan> that would popularize it
[02:33] <crimsun> pappan: "shells"?
[02:34] <pappan> or have ubuntu access to ubuntu lovers even if they are away from their ubuntu sys
[02:34] <pappan> crimsun: login shells
[02:34] <crimsun> pappan: nothing prevents you from configuring your own shell using Ubuntu ;-)
[02:34] <pappan> crimsun: no thats not what i meant
[02:35] <pappan> i meant free shells
[02:35] <crimsun> pappan: under ubuntu.com?
[02:35] <Unity> i have,,,ummm,,,500 syslogd processes...what is the safe way of fixing this?
[02:35] <pappan> i am away from ubuntu and i have no way to check ubuntu things
[02:35] <crimsun> pappan: what do you mean by "away from ubuntu and i have no way to check ubuntu things"?
[02:36] <pappan> i dont have access to ubuntu sys right now
[02:37] <pappan> so it would have been helpful if public ubuntu systems were provided which will popularize it as well
[02:37] <_vijay> hi everybody!! anybody have the motherboard with via k8m800 chipset, and xorg.conf is set for via drivers
[02:37] <crimsun> pappan: oh, something similar to what compaq/hp does with their public devel farm
[02:37] <_vijay> please help to set it work
[02:38] <crimsun> pappan: in any case, you can always grab a daily image of the live cd
[02:38] <SirKillalot> will wc3 run faster on cedega than on wine?
[02:38] <pappan> crimsun: right something similar to hp/compaq does
[02:38] <Unity> SirKillalot: #cedega might know
[02:40] <crimsun> SirKillalot: hard to say for certain; check the cedega and winehq forums
[02:41] <crimsun> _vijay: please pastebin your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[02:41] <orion195> hi all
[02:41] <orion195> I've a problem mounting a ext3 partitions
[02:41] <orion195> can anyone help me?
[02:43] <Chrizz> hi there, can some1 help me? reboot won't work on my system in GNOME and XFCE when i klick "reboot" my pc shuts down but doens't restart... always have to push the power button on my pc again
[02:44] <aaron_c>  hi could anyone explain how to set my ip, gateway and subnet via /etc/network/interfaces
[02:45] <Hedge3000> Hi all. I just want to warn you that the situation concerning howto`s about FULL ENCRYPTED filesystem on UBUNTU is not good. I found an official one which is auto-refered as bad and another that i`m using which i dont know if will be failing with some system upgrade. then, a warning>>>> START PAYING ATTENTION TO THIS ISSUE>LET`s make our systems secure> this is a campaign for FULL ENCRYPTED FILESYSTEMS NOW!
[02:45] <crimsun> Hedge3000: ...
[02:45] <jonshea> Is nmap only available form backports?
[02:45] <crimsun> !info nmap
[02:45] <ubotu> nmap: (The Network Mapper), section net, is extra. Version: 3.81-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 558 kB, Installed size: 1900 kB
[02:46] <crimsun> jonshea: as you can see, it's in main. Are you referring to a /newer/ version?
[02:47] <aaron_c> anyone?
[02:47] <jonshea> Apologies. I _just_ ran sudo apt-get nmap, and for some reason it wiffed. But you're right, I see it now. I thought it would be odd not to be there.
[02:48] <rahmat_why> :)
[02:48] <gargantuan_> elo... could ne1 help through efax installation? m newbie here
[02:49] <rahmat_why> try "apt-get install nmap"
[02:49] <ilba7r> hi are there other iptab front ends then guarddog and firestarter
[02:49] <jonshea> I guess "sudo apt-get nmap" would wiff, and now I can't find it in my history to see which I did. Woops. Sorry guys.
[02:49] <ilba7r> looking for one on which i can block or allow a program access to the net
[02:50] <quad_> Dones anybody know what I can do about CUPS, when it does not remove finished jobs??
[02:50] <rahmat_why> :) i don't know , sorry
[02:50] <quad_> *Does
[02:50] <suma> ilba7r, there is one called shorewall, nbut i doubt it has the feature u require....
[02:51] <gargantuan_> ?
[02:51] <x3aro> ...
[02:51] <ilba7r> thanx suma
[02:51] <suma> ilba7r, no problem :)
[02:53] <steve_> hi all
[02:53] <steve_> how do i install a file in linux for my nvidia drivers?
[02:53] <steve_> #i downloaded the package to the dektop and then opened terminal and typed in
[02:54] <steve_> sudo apt-get install build-essential gcc gcc-3.4
[02:54] <steve_> but it didn't work
[02:54] <_jason> ubotu: tell steve_ about nvidia
[02:55] <crimsun> steve_: missing linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[02:55] <allison_1984> teclis: still around ?
[02:55] <aaron_c> hi, cna anyone help me set my ip via termninal
[02:55] <steve_> thanks jason and crimson
[02:55] <steve_> crimson.....what do you mean?
[02:55] <teclis> allison_1984: yes ;)
[02:56] <steve_> do i have to add that onto the end?
[02:56] <BuZzY> when i boot my pc, it stops on root filesystem check, because it says that a file has "6 multiply-claimed block(s), shared with 0 file(s)" so i can't boot linux. i don't want to delete that file, how can i solve my problem? 
[02:57] <zandaa> hi all
[02:57] <steve_> hello
[02:57] <allison_1984> teclis: cool
[02:57] <teclis> allison_1984: where have we stopped?
[02:57] <allison_1984> teclis: they are so many ways to install skype
[02:57] <zandaa> does anyone know how I can adjust the framebuffer for one of grub's booting options??? (like put it to 640x480 256 colors??)
[02:57] <steve_> thanks for help guys.......be back later no doubt...ur all stars :)
[02:58] <eNetic> is it a way, by console, that tells me what is wrong with my printer settings?
[02:58] <teclis> allison_1984: I think all ways will work.
[02:58] <cafuego> zandaa: for grub itself?
[02:59] <allison_1984> teclis: I used this > http://www.paul.sladen.org/debian all skype
[02:59] <zandaa> cafuego, no it's for usplash customization, I'd like to be able to use 256 color images instead of 16
[02:59] <allison_1984> teclis: its just the putgoing sound that does not work
[02:59] <allison_1984> outgoing
[02:59] <cafuego> zandaa: You'll need to get a usplash implementation that uses osmething better then the vga16 framebuffer then.
[02:59] <zandaa> cafuego, how would I go about that?
[03:00] <teclis> allison_1984: Which soundsystem are you using? Or haven't you change anything?
[03:00] <allison_1984> teclis: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[03:00] <n00b> Hi, does anyone here have cedega and is using it?
[03:00] <Hedge3000> in the past i used cedega
[03:01] <n00b> okay
[03:01] <n00b> how do you install a game in cedega
[03:02] <Hedge3000> google
[03:02] <n00b> i know that there is an install button there but mine is like not working
[03:02] <zandaa> n00b, I don't think this is ubuntu related now is it???
[03:02] <n00b> its shaded out
[03:02] <allison_1984> teclis: hmmm, I think I have this problem stated here >https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto?highlight=%28skype%29
[03:02] <n00b> zandaa, sorry, but i dont know where to go
[03:02] <n00b> thx
[03:02] <zandaa> n00b, you should be able to find something on google
[03:04] <eNetic> allison_1984, need skypehelp_
[03:04] <eNetic> ?
[03:04] <teclis> allison_1984: ok, nice :)
[03:05] <UNIX_Newbie> hi
[03:05] <UNIX_Newbie> how can i join the german ubuntu channel?
[03:05] <ph030> hi there, someone able to help me concerning the kernel-patches ubuntu uses?
[03:05] <_jason> UNIX_Newbie: type: /j #ubuntu-de
[03:06] <allison_1984> eNetic: hahaha... my outgoing sound does not work ....
[03:06] <eNetic> hmm
[03:07] <mirak> what's the gcc version used to build breezy kernel ?
[03:07] <Tuxiscool> $ ldd /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4
[03:07] <Tuxiscool> /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4: /usr/lib/libmysqlclient.so.15: no version information available (required by /usr/lib/libQtSql.so.4)
[03:07] <Tuxiscool> Why would I be getting that error?
[03:07] <robin_> QUACK says the duck
[03:07] <allison_1984> eNetic: everything else works ! except that
[03:08] <RobinL> gnp
[03:08] <RobinL> :o
[03:08] <allison_1984> eNetic: installed it from here http://www.paul.sladen.org/debian
[03:08] <RobinL> omefreak*
[03:10] <newuser> how do I make ubuntu boot quicker? and can I bypass the login username ans password?
[03:11] <thenuke> newuser: check that autologin thing from gdm configs
[03:11] <onkarshinde> newuser: you can bypass login dialog by providing a default login. Go to System->Administration->Login Screen Setup
[03:11] <mirak> what's the gcc version used to build breezy kernel ?
[03:11] <Seveas> 3.4
[03:11] <onkarshinde> newuser: For making booting quicker, you can turn off services not used.
[03:12] <MacSlow> I just did this on dapper drake -> http://macslow.mine.nu/cairo-clock-3.png
[03:14] <newuser> thanks folks did the login, now researching the services.
[03:16] <Seveas> spring cleanup...
[03:17] <kent> :)
[03:17] <MarcN> MacSlow: so how did you get the transparent everything?
[03:18] <GameCat> hi - can anyone tell me how to set up ubuntu to boot without starting X?
[03:18] <Mapionetka> server install?
[03:18] <Seveas> GameCat, sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove
[03:18] <MacSlow> MarcN, I'm running Xorg 7.0 (coming wiht Dapper Drake flight 3), xcompmgr, transd and all that driven by the nvidia-1.0-8178 driver
[03:18] <Mapionetka> whats the current level of xubuntu? good or work intensive?
[03:19] <GameCat> Seveas: thanks, I'll try that...
[03:19] <mirak> Seveas: thanks
[03:19] <MarcN> MacSlow: I too am running dapper but haven't updated the last night's boatload of X packages.
[03:19] <MarcN> MacSlow: and I have an ATI video
[03:19] <MacSlow> MarcN, the cairo-clock is a mix of  gtk+/cairo code using a RGBA-visual with a transparent bg and no window-decorastions of course
[03:20] <mirak> Seveas: there is a graphical service manager :)
[03:20] <MacSlow> MarcN, no clue how this runs on non-nvidia systems... I never had anything non-nvidia in my rigs.
[03:20] <Seveas> mirak, I'm a console junkie
[03:20] <MarcN> MacSlow: I'm hesitant to grab the new X packages -- still fighting with dual head configuration
[03:21] <Davey> MarcN: with ATI, you will be forever ;)
[03:21] <MacSlow> MarcN, but maybe this evening or tomorrow you can test it yourself... I'll release the sourcecode for the clock.
[03:21] <ph030> can someone tell me, what the ubuntu-devs have patched, to make my fn-keys on my notebook work w/ and w/o x-server? i'd like to have that with my distro, but haven't found out how, yet.
[03:22] <Chrizz> hi there, can some1 help me? reboot won't work on my system, in GNOME and XFCE when i klick "reboot" my pc shuts down but doens't restart... always have to push the power button on my pc again
[03:23] <Davey> MacSlow: so far, impressive :)
[03:23] <MarcN> Davey I'm not using the ati binary drivers, just stock X.  The problem is the xorg.conf used to work on breezy but not on dapper.   And I'm not alone: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/26316
[03:23] <Davey> MacSlow: though, it looks like all that transparency suffers from the same issues as Windows Vista
[03:24] <Davey> MarcN: so you're running the double X server config? (each screen is completely seperate)
[03:24] <Davey> very pretty clock MacSlow :)
[03:24] <no0tic> why is the 2.6.15-k7 kernel (dapper) compiled with SMP support?
[03:25] <MacSlow> Davey, well the use of transd (that thing that make non-active windows transparent) is a bit over the top I admint.
[03:25] <MarcN> Davey: A laptop with LCD screen and external monitor.  It is one large screen
[03:25] <teclis> Does anyone use evolution for News-Reading and can help me?
[03:25] <Davey> MarcN: hrm, OK :)
[03:25] <MacSlow> Davey, but I kind of like the idea of non-focused windows to get "toned-down" a bit.
[03:25] <MacSlow> Davey, just tinting them might be better.
[03:26] <Davey> MacSlow: the problem is seeing text through what text you're trying to read
[03:26] <gargantuan_> ne1 knows how to install efax to good working order? m newbie here
[03:26] <Davey> admittedly, your transparency on the Eclipse window isn't too great that it makes it hard to read
[03:26] <Davey> MacSlow: which is the problem Vista had
[03:28] <pixelfairy> cool, wacom worked out of box...
[03:28] <MacSlow> Davey, ehm... not really... don't forget.. i nthat screenshot I've put the focus on the clock thus all other windows get slightly (0.75) transparent.
[03:29] <MacSlow> Davey, if I e.g. go to the Eclipse window it get fully opaque and nothing shines through.
[03:29] <gargantuan_> :)
[03:29] <john> what is this
[03:30] <pixelfairy> kinda....
[03:30] <Davey> MacSlow: ah, cool :)
[03:30] <glatzor> hi, does anybody know what happend to phyton's gtkmozembed?
[03:30] <glatzor> My gnome-app-install doesn't work anymore.
[03:30] <xeon_> hi, can anybody help me?
[03:30] <Davey> pixelfairy: my wacom doesn't work right for me even on windows :/
[03:30] <glatzor> i am on dapper
[03:30] <pixelfairy> i used to use it on slackware a long time ago, had to stuff to XF86Config
[03:31] <pixelfairy> but worked great after that
[03:31] <xeon_> what program do i need to launch .exe progs??
[03:31] <pixelfairy> back then, you needed to tell the kernel what res the monitor was
[03:31] <nalioth> xeon_: wine
[03:31] <MarcN> xeon_: wine, may work for some
[03:31] <xeon_> nalioth thank you :D
[03:32] <chris>  files list file for package `xserver-common' is missing final newline <-- anyone else have same problem?
[03:32] <xeon_> nalioth is that the only one, or are there more?
[03:32] <nguyenb> rrtr
[03:32] <pixelfairy> chris: theres a status.old file, just copy that to status and it should work
[03:32] <Davey> xeon_: wine is the only *free* option
[03:33] <xeon_> davey thank you very much dudes ;)
[03:33] <chris> pixelfairy: where is the file?
[03:33] <nalioth> xeon_: wine is freely available, you may wish to pay for cedega or crossover office
[03:33] <Hedge3000> Campaign for Full Encrypted FileSystem Now! ! !
[03:33] <pixelfairy> chris: /var/log/installer/
[03:33] <nalioth> xeon_: depending on the .exe, unzip or unrar may open it, also
[03:33] <pixelfairy> teehee!
[03:33] <pixelfairy> irssi does tab completion of filenames
[03:34] <chris> pixelfairy: there is no status.old
[03:34] <mips> What is the best gui download manager available. Looking for something like getright but most of all i'm looking for something that will do multiple downloads of the same file to maximise the bandwidth usage ?
[03:34] <nalioth> mips: prozilla
[03:35] <pixelfairy> chris: when i had a similar problem there was
[03:35] <pixelfairy> yours might be a differnt problem then
[03:35] <pixelfairy> but i was getting the same message
[03:35] <mips> nalioth, thanks. Available for KDE ?
[03:36] <nalioth> mips: it's a console program, so it runs anywhere
[03:36] <Alakazam> morning guys
[03:36] <Alakazam> i dont know what the hell i did, but...
[03:36] <Alakazam> DRI's working now
[03:36] <Alakazam> lol
[03:37] <pixelfairy> ok, so wacom is a process.... apt-cache seach gave 3 packages
[03:37] <pixelfairy> will have to play with it later...
[03:37] <Alakazam> my sound isnt working though, and was on my last install of Ubuntu
[03:38] <ScreaminIke> 'lo, room. c'n i ge' some 'elp se'in up me java so dat me firefox c'n use i'?
[03:38] <mips> nalioth, thanks. Looks like I need prozGUI
[03:38] <simonx> hello i justed installed a new wlan card into my second computer (that ist officially supported by ubuntu breezey and is also recognized), my problem is that i there is not any access point listed only 00:00:00: etc.
[03:38] <gargantuan_> ne1 knows how to install efax to good working order? m newbie here
[03:39] <HypnotiQBen84> Can I install Ubuntu 5.10 on VPC?
[03:39] <quad_> is it possible to have this computer online and connected, and then connection to this computer over LAN, and entering the IRC client, as if I was in front of it?? (pytty, cygwin, something?)
[03:39] <Romeyo> hie peeps... i have a onboard network card which is sis190.. its not supported by the kernel. my mobo support site gave me a driver and asked me to rebuild the kernel with it. i downloaded latest kernel . i can't see the old kernel. and most make commands aren't working. pls help me in this issue.
[03:39] <ScreaminIke> yea, quad
[03:39] <Romeyo> am using breeze, amd 64 edition
[03:39] <Alakazam> simonx, what you need to do is go to system>networking
[03:39] <HypnotiQBen84> *Takes a ticket*
[03:39] <Alakazam> and set it up using your access point name.
[03:39] <Alakazam> mine is working, all i have is wireless.
[03:39] <Alakazam> lol@takes the ticket.
[03:39] <ScreaminIke> quad: go to system>preferences>remote desktop
[03:39] <quad_> ScreaminIke, can you give me hints?
[03:39] <quad_> ah
[03:40] <ScreaminIke> set it up
[03:40] <quad_> thanks... i'll look into it.
[03:40] <simonx> Alakazam: what is the access point name? !
[03:40] <Alakazam> I dont know, you're going to have to set that up in your router config
[03:40] <Alakazam> its usually "linksys" if its a linksys.
[03:41] <ScreaminIke> quad, i suggest NOT making it ask for permission, but requiring a password
[03:41] <simonx> it is a speedport W 500v
[03:41] <smoser> hey all, I built ffmpeg with : DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky fakeroot apt-get source ffmpeg --compile
[03:41] <Alakazam> Intel D915GAG Sound problems anyone?
[03:41] <selinium> quad_, Also take a look at freenx, thin-client access
[03:41] <Alakazam> ALSA isnt muted.
[03:41] <smoser> then installed the resultant deb (ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1_i386.deb)
[03:41] <ScreaminIke> now, quad, idon suppose you can help me integrate JRE into my firefox, eh?
[03:41] <smoser> now, the update manager (and apt-get update) want to replace my version with the same version from upstream
[03:41] <simonx> Alakazam: where do i have to fill in the access point name?
[03:41] <quad_> ScreaminIke, probablly... whats the problem?
[03:42] <smoser> apt-get upgrade --dry-run | grep "Inst ffm"
[03:42] <smoser> Inst ffmpeg [3:0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1]  (3:0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1 Ubuntu:5.10/breezy)
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> no jre support in firefox
[03:42] <quad_> Have you tried installing from sun?
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> :)
[03:42] <smoser> any ideas why it would do this?
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> i did the jre installation
[03:42] <Alakazam> wireless connection>properties>network name (ESSID)
[03:42] <ScreaminIke> it's a matter of getting firefox to see it, i guess
[03:42] <Kasts> i have the same that ScreaminIke
[03:42] <quad_> ScreaminIke, if you have the space for it, try installing JDK, that worked out-o-the-box for me.
[03:43] <Alakazam> brb
[03:43] <ScreaminIke> jdk... can you link me?
[03:43] <quad_> a sec...
[03:43] <smoser> ScreaminIke, you need to : ln -sf /usr/lib/j2sdk1.5-sun/jre/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/javaplugin.so
[03:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell ScreaminIke about javadebs
[03:44] <smoser> thats the short answer. the longer one involves correcting the 'alternatives' that are incorrectly laid dow
[03:44] <ScreaminIke> quad, by the way, to ACCESS your machine, once you set up remote desktop, you are gonna need a vnc client
[03:44] <Pygi> !firefoxplugins
[03:44] <ubotu> if you want to install firefox plugins https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxPlugins, if you already have plugins installed but lost them when you upgraded to firefox 1.5 look into !firefox1.5
[03:44] <Romeyo> hie peeps... i have a onboard network card which is sis190.. its not supported by the kernel. my mobo support site gave me a driver and asked me to rebuild the kernel with it. i downloaded latest kernel . i can't see the old kernel. and most make commands aren't working. pls help me in this issue. am using breeze, amd 64 edition
[03:44] <smoser> nalioth, last time i used the java debs (by java-package) it failed to get the links correctly done.
[03:44] <ScreaminIke> thanx
[03:44] <smoser> anyone know why apt-get would want to upgrade to an upstream version when i have the same (locally built) version on my machine?
[03:44] <nalioth> smoser: these java debs are made for ubuntu
[03:44] <ScreaminIke> now what? restart firefox?
[03:45] <nalioth> smoser: you havent pinned your local version
[03:45] <nalioth> ubotu: tell smoser about pinning
[03:45] <smoser> they're the same version
[03:45] <mips> nalioth, whats D4X like ?
[03:46] <nalioth> mips: what is d4x ?
[03:46] <smoser> I'd understand an upgrade, but the deb i have installed is the same version as the one upstream (both for breezy)
[03:46] <mips> nalioth, Download manager for X
[03:46] <smoser> (mine built from the breezy 'apt-get source --compile')
[03:46] <mips> nalioth, www.krasu.ru/soft/chuchelo/
[03:46] <nalioth> mips: never heard of it
[03:47] <_jason> mips: d4x is in the repos.  It runs fine.  I'd say it is the download manager I like the most
[03:48] <Romeyo> hello someone help me :(
[03:48] <mips> _jason: yeah saw it in the repos and saw lots of people recommending it
[03:48] <_jason> Romeyo: We can try to help you if you ask a question
[03:49] <smoser> forgive me if i sound confused. I did the following with breezy and backports sources in sources.list: apt-get update ; DEB_BUILD_OPTIONS=risky apt-get source --compile ffmpeg; dpkg -r ffmpeg; dpkg -i ffmpeg_0.cvs20050918-4ubuntu1_i386.deb
[03:49] <_jason> mips: yeah, if you are looking for a download manager, you should just install all of the ones in the repos and choose the one you like.
[03:49] <smoser> and now apt wants to upgrade (replace) my ffmpeg with the same version but from sources
[03:50] <_jason> mips: that's what I did, I ended up sticking with d4x
[03:50] <mips> _jason: Thx. Think I'll just use d4x
[03:50] <esoteric> hi guys... setting up new network... had comp A as firewall gateway (10.2.1.1) and comp B is behind it (ubuntu) now other comps can use A as gateway fine... but B is having trouble.... 10.2.1.1 is set as gateway in /etc/networking/interfaces  and when i do a "route" its listed there (but takes a long time to appear) any ideas what im forgetting?
[03:51] <newuser> ok folks me and my newbie problems come to AGAIN.
[03:51] <drcode> hi all
[03:51] <newuser> what are the treminal commands to activate wlan0.
[03:51] <drcode> any idea of console client for dcpp?
[03:51] <nalioth> drcode: do you mean dc++ ?
[03:52] <drcode> yes
[03:52] <drcode> I run linux server in console mode
[03:52] <nalioth> drcode: there is a console and gui app in the repos for dc++
[03:52] <drcode> realy
[03:52] <drcode> how it call ?
[03:52] <drcode> is there also client/server?
[03:52] <nalioth> drcode: apt-cache search dc++
[03:52] <drcode> thanx
[03:52] <Romeyo> _jason: i have a onboard network card which is sis190.. its not supported by the kernel. my mobo support site gave me a driver file whish is sis190.c and asked me to rebuild the kernel with it. i downloaded latest kernel . i can't see the old kernel. and most make commands aren't working. pls help me in this issue. am using breeze, amd 64 edition
[03:53] <esoteric> also comp B can ping and see comp A no problem
[03:53] <esoteric> and vise versa
[03:53] <drcode> there are lot of libdc++
[03:54] <drcode> libstdc++5
[03:54] <drcode> but no client dc++
[03:54] <nalioth> drcode: do you have all your repos enabled?
[03:54] <_jason> Romeyo: I can't help you too much with that as I am fairly inexperienced with reocmpiling the kernel, but concerning the make commands, is the command not found or are you getting errors?
[03:55] <xiaogil> Is there a pastebin somewhere on the net to put screenshots ?
[03:55] <_jason> !pastebin
[03:55] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:55] <drcode> reops?
[03:55] <drcode> what is it?
[03:55] <Romeyo> _jason: it says not found
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[03:56] <_jason> Romeyo: I think you need gcc-3.4 for the kernel
[03:57] <Romeyo> ok
[03:57] <Romeyo> _jason: apt-get needs internet connection na?
[03:57] <_jason> Romeyo: build-essential is on the cd, I don't think gcc-3.4 is but not sure
[03:58] <Pygi> yes, it does require internet
[03:58] <_jason> Romeyo: either way, if gcc-3.4 isn't in the cd go to packages.ubuntu.com and download the deb with another computer.  Then transfer it over
[03:58] <Romeyo> hmm i have to configure my lan card... right now in linux as i want internet connection i wanna recompile :(
[03:58] <drcode> nalioth:what do  U mean >?
[03:58] <Romeyo> oh
[03:59] <butcherbird> drcode: 'sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list' are all the urls uncommented?
[03:59] <drcode> yes
[03:59] <drcode> thay are
[03:59] <drcode> I use breezy
[03:59] <butcherbird> drcode: multiverse added as well?
[04:00] <drcode> let me check it out
[04:00] <Xenguy> .oO(I may as well be on dialup)
[04:00] <drcode> deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main universe multiverse restricted
[04:00] <drcode> yep
[04:01] <Romeyo> ubuntu supports only gcc version 3.4.0?
[04:01] <butcherbird> drcode: and youve 'sudo apt-get update'?
[04:01] <drcode> yes
[04:01] <nalioth> drcode: make sure it says 'universe multiverse' everywhere you see 'universe' in your sources.list
[04:01] <nalioth> Romeyo: yes it does
[04:01] <Romeyo> okies
[04:01] <Romeyo> so shall i d/l 3.4.5 then?
[04:01] <nalioth> Romeyo: d/l whatever you like
[04:02] <drcode> k
[04:02] <Romeyo> ok
[04:03] <drcode> any idea of dc++ clinet/server like mldonkey?
[04:03] <nalioth> drcode: search sourceforge.net
[04:04] <drcode> I did
[04:04] <drcode> with out luck
[04:04] <drcode> I saw some cliet but its gui
[04:05] <pinucset> one think, i'm trying to give format (ext3) to a partition but qtparted or gparted cant, the option for doing this is in black
[04:05] <pinucset> :S
[04:06] <soundray> pinucset, maybe the partition is mounted?
[04:07] <pinucset> soundray, no, partition magic cant to...
[04:08] <soundray> pinucset, do you have a strange disk layout?
[04:08] <Alakazam> im a NEENJAH!
[04:08] <nalioth> pinucset: is the partition ext2 now?
[04:09] <esoteric> is there anywhere appart from /etc/network/interfaces and using "route" that can set the default gateway?
[04:09] <pinucset> nalioth the partition doesnt have format now
[04:10] <nalioth> pinucset: let gparted make a ext2 file system
[04:10] <Alakazam> esoteric, you're going about it the hard way
[04:10] <Alakazam> go to system, settings, networking
[04:10] <Alakazam> Or something of that nature
[04:11] <esoteric> Alakazam, this is a server install
[04:11] <Alakazam> oh
[04:11] <Alakazam> why didnt you just install X and disable it @ boot
[04:11] <Alakazam> so when you need it you can use it.
[04:11] <Alakazam> and what kinda server.
[04:11] <Alakazam> :\
[04:11] <esoteric> and normaly just putting it in /etc/network/interfaces is fine... but its not working today
[04:11] <Alakazam> a REAL server?
[04:11] <trae> !gimp
[04:11] <ubotu> methinks gimp is at http://www.gimp.org
[04:11] <esoteric> yea real :) so i wont be doing that
[04:12] <Alakazam> lol
[04:12] <esoteric> mail server
[04:12] <trae> anyone know how to get gimp 2.3 for Ubuntu?
[04:12] <Alakazam> use Mandriva.
[04:12] <Alakazam> its cake for setting servers up
[04:12] <Alakazam> or...
[04:12] <Alakazam> try apt-get install webmin
[04:12] <pinucset> nalioth , i select the partition wich i want to give format (it is called Unallocated) i push right button and it says:  "it is not possible to create more than 4 primary partitions, if you want more partitions you should create an extended partiition. Such a partition can contain other partitions". What must i do? :S
[04:13] <nalioth> pinucset: make an extended one or learn your console commands
[04:13] <pinucset> how can i create an extended one?
[04:13] <nalioth> pinucset: there should be an option there
[04:13] <snowblink> esoteric, what is the problem you're having?
[04:13] <terminal30> hello
[04:13] <terminal30> all
[04:13] <soundray> nalioth, not if he already has four primaries.
[04:13] <terminal30> how are you
[04:14] <pinucset> nalioth i dont see anything about...
[04:14] <xerxas> hi guys
[04:14] <anshan91> hi man
[04:14] <terminal30> hix
[04:14] <butcherbird> pinucset: sudo cfdisk
[04:14] <xerxas> is there any place to do package request ?
[04:14] <soundray> pinucset, if you have four primary partitions already, you will have to delete one in order to be able to create an extended partition.
[04:14] <xerxas> I didn't found that on the launchpad
[04:15] <pinucset> soundray omg...
[04:15] <esoteric> snowblink, my ubuntu box is having issues using the gateway vie specified.... its set up the same way ive set other machines before... and the gateway is working for other boxes..... doing "route" shows correct details.. but takes a long time
[04:15] <pinucset> I cant erase any...
[04:16] <soundray> pinucset, can you buy an extra hard disk?
[04:16] <snowblink> esoteric, all on the same subnet? Try traceroute
[04:16] <esoteric> snow yes they are... server and gateway can ping eachother
[04:17] <bart_> Is the security.ubuntu thing down or something,, i can't update
[04:17] <snowblink> esoteric, is there an IP clash?
[04:17] <pitti> bart_: very slow right now
[04:18] <quad_> ScreaminIke, VNC working.... this is nice :D - thank you!
[04:18] <quad_> Have a nice weekend...
[04:19] <seashell11> Ok, windows is installed on two 74 gb hard drives set up with stripe raid on raid0, when ubuntu is installed grub doesn't find the windows, but if I set bios to start up with raid0 it will start windows, if I set it up to start with the third hard drive that ubuntu is installed on, it will start up with ubuntu, what should I put in /boot/grub/menu.lst so that it will have an option tostart up with windows?
[04:20] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/513438
[04:20] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/513420
[04:20] <seashell11> ther are some links to help
[04:21] <malefestra> hey guys, what is the package name for Ubuntu Lite?
[04:21] <malefestra> I thought it was ubuntu-lite-desktop
[04:23] <malefestra> anyone actually awake? :>
[04:23] <Alakazam> yes
[04:23] <Alakazam> i am
[04:23] <Alakazam> hehe
[04:23] <Ng> there's xubuntu-desktop
[04:23] <Ng> that installs xfce and so on
[04:23] <nalioth> malefestra: ubuntu-lite iirc is a non official hack.
[04:23] <butcherbird> malefestra: im not seeing an ubntu lite in repos.. but then I guess you already knew that :)
[04:24] <malefestra> nalioth - where would I get it?
[04:24] <soundray> malefestra, ubuntulite.org
[04:24] <nalioth> malefestra: ask uncle google.
[04:24] <malefestra> butcherbird - heh, yep. ;)  I just remember reading about it on the wiki
[04:24] <seashell11> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/514657 here I ran than one page through an online translator and here it is again
[04:24] <malefestra> nalioth - working on it, have to install lynx first.
[04:24] <soundray> malefestra, ubuntulite.org
[04:24] <malefestra> thanks soundray.
[04:25] <butcherbird> malefestra: http://www.ubuntulite.org/ubuntu-lite-desktop_0.1_i386.deb
[04:27] <seashell11> anyone have any idea what I should add to grub? to make it so that I have an option to boot to windows?
[04:28] <Tomcat_> !grub
[04:28] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[04:28] <Tomcat_> seashell11: That should help :)
[04:29] <redguy> seashell11: people at # grub are very helpful, try in there
[04:29] <esoteric> snowblink, traceroute ... takes a while.. but does show gateway first.. then its all timeouts
[04:29] <vardhan> hi. I'm having trouble getting   my wireless ( bcm43xx ) to work on dapper-flight-3. Tried google and got more confused. Will ndiswrrapper work ?
[04:29] <soundray> seashell11, this is a tricky one. Try the grub command line, and do a 'find' on a common Windows file like boot.ini (?). If it doesn't find it, it may not work at all.
[04:29] <seashell11> Tomcat_: I already tried that, they do not have anything for working with computers set up with raid
[04:29] <seashell11> soundray: ok, ill try that thanks!
[04:29] <seashell11> and try out #grub
[04:30] <soundray> seashell11, the canonical way is probably to set up Windows in a non-RAID partition.
[04:30] <nalioth> vardhan: ndiswrapper should work on x86 machines
[04:30] <Alakazam> it deos
[04:30] <Alakazam> does
[04:30] <Alakazam> i dont know why you'd need it.
[04:30] <redguy> soundray: hrmmm, will grub find any file on a NTFS fs?
[04:30] <vardhan> nalioth: ndiswrapper-module1.5 or 1.8  ? where can i get 1.8  ?
[04:30] <soundray> redguy, maybe not... seashell11, take note pls
[04:31] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vardhan about ndiswrapper
[04:32] <braxis> Morning WOOD
[04:33] <soundray> seashell11, have you thought about chainloading grub from the Windows bootloader?
[04:34] <seashell11> soundray: what do you mean by the?
[04:34] <seashell11> s/the/that
[04:35] <seashell11> is there something I can put in the windows boot loader so that I have an option to go to grub?
[04:35] <soundray> seashell11, you can replace grub with the Windows boot loader, and install grub in the boot sectore of the root partition instead.
[04:35] <soundray> seashell11, I read about it on a web page -- I'll try to dig it up...
[04:36] <seashell11> soundray, ill google some more, now I got some things to look for
[04:36] <seashell11> thanks!
[04:37] <soundray> seashell11, good -- I can't find it immediately, but Google spits out lots on the subject.
[04:37] <Alakazam> I need help: D915GAG audio not working.
[04:37] <Alakazam> intel hardware
[04:40] <gt_Jaba> Hello everyone!
[04:40] <soundray> Alakazam, do you know the name of the module that should support your audio hardware?
[04:41] <gt_Jaba> Is there a way to set up multiple identities in the Evolution email program?
[04:41] <ubuntu> hello
[04:41] <ubuntu> la cangri talk
[04:41] <kbg_20> can someone help me out with my mike? i am not able to record anything using it...
[04:41] <Alakazam> root@malakai:~# lsmod |grep snd
[04:41] <Alakazam> snd_hda_intel          15872  4
[04:41] <Alakazam> snd_hda_codec          72064  1 snd_hda_intel
[04:41] <Alakazam> those ones.
[04:41] <Alakazam> soundray,
[04:41] <ubuntu> helloooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[04:42] <rapha> Hi all!
[04:42] <rapha> My Clamshell iBook has arrived! :-)
[04:42] <soundray> Alakazam, so, drivers loaded, but no sound... Can you select a sound card in System-Preferences-Sound?
[04:43] <tbf> hi, as security.ubuntu.com is incredibly slow, i am wondering if there is some mirror for it
[04:43] <Alakazam> im in kde.
[04:43] <Alakazam> :\
[04:43] <kbg_20> hey everyone!! can someone help me with my mike? i am not able to record using it...
[04:43] <esoteric> man this is really pissing me off
[04:43] <pitti> tbf: archive.u.c usually mirrors security
[04:43] <pitti> tbf: however, with a certain lag
[04:43] <kbg_20> microphone i mean..
[04:43] <rapha> How can I configure what the iBook should do when I close its lid? Because right now, Ubuntu tries to put it in suspend, and upon opening the lid again, the iBook crashes :-(
[04:43] <soundray> Alakazam, can you run kmixer (or is it called kmix?)?
[04:44] <nalioth> rapha: that is a known problem. there is nothing you can do easily
[04:45] <kbg_20> hey everyone!! can someone help me with recording using my microphone? i am not able to record using it...
[04:45] <jenda-busy> Help! I accidentally saved a document in Open Office over another... any ideas what I could do? (apart from backing up next time?)
[04:45] <rapha> nalioth: so I will have to remove the button that detects the lid close?
[04:45] <tenco> when i try to connect to my mysql-server at localhost i get the error message: [db_error: message="DB Error: connect failed" code=-24 mode=return level=notice prefix="" info=" [nativecode=Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (13)]  ** Array"] 
[04:45] <tenco> whats wrong here?
[04:45] <soundray> kbg_20, is it muted? Check with alsamixer.
[04:45] <nalioth> rapha: i wouldnt mess with anything.
[04:45] <tenco> can someone help me?
[04:45] <kbg_20> soundray: nope..i put it at 100...everything is enabled in alsamixer
[04:46] <esoteric> tenco, is this a new install of mysql?
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: yes. on dapper
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: i can connect as root
[04:46] <esoteric> tenco, be default tcp connections are off... edit your mysql config file
[04:46] <esoteric> be = by
[04:46] <tenco> esoteric: thx
[04:46] <gimmulF_> !ssh
[04:46] <ubotu> I heard ssh is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SSHHowto
[04:46] <jenda-busy> Help! Very urgent: I accidentally saved a document in Open Office over another... any ideas what I could do? (apart from backing up next time?)
[04:47] <soundray> kbg_20, what recording software?
[04:47] <nalioth> jenda-busy: you are lost.
[04:47] <rapha> nalioth: Well, as it stands now, this severely limits the usability of my iBook. And I need to fix the mousepad anyway, which will require opening of the case...
[04:47] <kbg_20> soundray: i tried both audacity and the sound recorder that comes with the distro
[04:47] <jenda-busy> nalioth: yup...
[04:47] <katie_> hrm, having problems  main input error: no suitable access module for `dvd://'
[04:47] <katie_>  < vlc, also, Xine, Okle wont play it either
[04:47] <gimmulF_> dont i restart openssh-server by sudo /etc/init.d/ssh restart  ?
[04:47] <soundray> kbg_20, have you tried turning off esd?
[04:48] <gimmulF_> when i try to ssh to this machine from another machine behind same router i get connection refused
[04:48] <nalioth> rapha: it is your equipment, i suspect it'd be easier to recompile the kernel to fix both problems
[04:48] <kbg_20> soundray: yup, esd isnt running..i checked using ps ax |grep esd
[04:48] <ericmoritz\0> I some how broke my battery meter can someone help out?
[04:48] <soundray> kbg_20, I have a system like that. Bad news is, I gave up trying to record with it...
[04:49] <kbg_20> soundray: thats bad :( i really want it to work...
[04:49] <ericmoritz\0> where in proc is that data reviewed?
[04:50] <olicat> any ideas if I can add a user without a password?
[04:50] <soundray> ericmoritz\0, /proc/acpi/battery/
[04:50] <ericmoritz\0> that's what I thought, It's missing
[04:50] <rapha> nalioth: OOOH! From your previous statement, I didn't think it was quite as easy as recompiling the kernel. Is there some documentation anywhere on what options need to be changed?
[04:51] <soundray> kbg_20, playing sound works?
[04:51] <rapha> nalioth: the mousepad however is physically broken, so recompiling the kernel won't fix that :-)
[04:51] <nalioth> rapha: i dont consider recompling the kernel 'easy' and i know both problems can be fixed with a kernal recompile (with the right stuff) but i am not familiar with how to do it
[04:51] <kbg_20> soundray: yup, works great
[04:51] <nalioth> rapha: ah, no it won't
[04:51] <rapha> nalioth: I'm coming from LFS, there was no way for you to know that, sorry :-)
[04:52] <rapha> nalioth: the mousepad has the only software-problem that I can't "tap" on it... if that could be fixed would also be cool
[04:52] <soundray> kbg_20, what's your sound card?
[04:53] <kbg_20> soundray: i guess its nvidia...not sure though..my mobo is asus k8n..
[04:53] <rapha> nalioth: I already tried finding some docs on something like needed kernel changes but couldn't find anything, so if you had ANY pointer whatsoever I'd be most grateful :)
[04:53] <rod> cool i got a k8n asus as well
[04:53] <soundray> kbg_20, don't know what to advise -- have you STFW?
[04:53] <rod> what's your problem with it, i aint got any with ubuntu
[04:53] <nalioth> rapha: the yellowdog kernel seems to run ibooks and powerbooks just fine (all features work)
[04:54] <kbg_20> soundray: STFW?!? whats that?
[04:54] <soundray> kbg_20, search the fine web
[04:54] <kbg_20> rod: have u been able to record sounds?
[04:54] <rapha> nalioth: Okay then, maybe somebody in the YellowDog channel knows something about patches required...
[04:54] <rod> ehhh not sure kbg_20 never tried ... what has that to do with the motherboard?
[04:55] <kbg_20> soundray: thats new lingo to me :) and yes, i have done it a lot before coming here..
[04:55] <rod> kbg_20, you got a sb live by any chance?
[04:55] <nalioth> rapha: that is the path i'd follow
[04:55] <rapha> nalioth: thanks for bringing me so far tho :-)
[04:55] <kbg_20> rod: sb live?
[04:55] <kbg_20> rod: no idea what that is..
[04:55] <rod> sound blaster live platinum
[04:55] <raysiel_> salve
[04:55] <rod> sound card ^^
[04:56] <kbg_20> rod: wait a second..i am getting a bit confused
[04:56] <soundray> kbg_20, could it be that you need a pre-amp? Some microphones have very low output levels.
[04:56] <rod> kbg_20, you say you cant record sounds, right?
[04:56] <kbg_20> rod: yes
[04:56] <kbg_20> soundray: no i dont think so..it works well on windows
[04:56] <rod> kbg_20, so this sounds like a sound-card issue, right? :s
[04:57] <kbg_20> rod: yeah...and i f*cking am not sure what my sound card is...:(
[04:57] <soundray> rod, or driver.
[04:58] <rod> try "lspci"
[04:58] <kbg_20> rod: thanks
[04:58] <redguy> rod, kbg_20, soundray or a proper record source setting in the mixer
[04:58] <rod> the multimedia audio controller :)
[04:58] <kbg_20> rod:  Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 00ea (rev a1)
[04:58] <ilba7r> when i try to activate a new login. I get a messed up screen. What might cause that the vedio driver or gdm conference
[04:58] <soundray> kbg_20, there is at least one generation of your mb that was equipped with a Realtek ALC850
[04:58] <ilba7r> sorry gdm config
[04:58] <rod> yeah try apt-get install alsamixer-gui
[04:59] <rod> and enable everything :-/ (that's what a noob like me would do)
[04:59] <kbg_20> rod: i used alsamixer from termi...does that matter?
[04:59] <soundray> kbg_20, you did check alsamixer, didn't you? (redguy ^)
[04:59] <kbg_20> and enabled everything
[04:59] <rod> kbg_20, that's good
[04:59] <kbg_20> soundray: yes, i did
[04:59] <redguy> just checking.. :-)
[04:59] <rod> did you enable everything on that sound-panel-menu-thing on the upper right of the gnome panel??
[05:00] <kbg_20> rod: are u talking about the volume control thing that comes up when i double click the vol icon?
[05:00] <graft> arrh. so does anyone know how to get alsa to just, like, work?
[05:01] <ilba7r> kbg_20, seems like you need to install the driver for your card if device unknown. but do that in a terminal as final check. cat /usr/share/sounds/bell.wav > /dev/dsp
[05:01] <mikelo> hi i can't read accented characters in any application, is there a packege for that?
[05:01] <rod> yes, kbg_20 :) RIght click, and then open that thing
[05:01] <ericmoritz\0> does anyone know what module makes /proc/acpi/battery exist?
[05:01] <kbg_20> rod: yup, everything enabled..(i guess its just a gui for alsamixer right?) i tried changing the device too
[05:01] <soundray> ilba7r, he said that sound playing was okay.
[05:01] <graft> ericmoritz\0: acpi
[05:01] <soundray> *(s)he
[05:02] <ilba7r> soundray, ok did not see that
[05:02] <kbg_20> soundray: he..not she :D
[05:02] <robin_> how to get WMII on Ubuntu? i mean is it safe to install the debian package?
[05:02] <robin_> do*
[05:02] <soundray> kbg_20, I reckon there was a 0.5% chance of insulting you with the first version :)
[05:03] <selinium> How do I partition a HD that I am using? My /home drive is on the HD I want to partition? I obviously can't umount it....
[05:03] <nalioth> selinium: liveCD
[05:03] <soundray> selinium, best thing is to boot from a Live CD.
[05:03] <robin_> how to get WMII on Ubuntu? i mean is it safe to install the debian package?
[05:04] <kbg_20> rod, soundray: so isnt there any other thing to check other than alsamixer settings?
[05:04] <selinium>  nalioth soundray  Cool, does live have gparted?
[05:04] <soundray> selinium, think so.
[05:04] <graft> robin_: probably...
[05:04] <ilba7r> !tell kbg_20 about dmix
[05:04] <selinium> nalioth, soundray I haven't really use live before
[05:04] <nubbe> is there a gnome or system console, where all commands can be seen?
[05:04] <saik0> robin_, usually
[05:04] <rod> kbg_20, sorry man; i aint got a clue further :-s
[05:04] <selinium> soundray, nalioth : Cheers for the help!
[05:04] <kbg_20> rod: :( but thanks for trying to help..
[05:04] <nalioth> LeeJunFan: the ubuntu livecd had gparted, yes.
[05:04] <ilba7r> kbg_20 follow ubotu link
[05:05] <graft> so... no one reasonably competent with ALSA?
[05:05] <ilba7r> graft i am running alsa with no problems
[05:05] <kbg_20> ilba7r: thanks for the link..am going to check it out
[05:05] <rod> kbg_20,  :)
[05:05] <rod> thank you
[05:05] <kbg_20> ilba7r: even recording?
[05:05] <graft> ilba7r, does it do mixing correctly?
[05:05] <soundray> kbg_20, you've reignited my interest in fixing it here (on my vdr machine).
[05:05] <ilba7r> graft, superb everything work
[05:05] <ilba7r> let me check recording though
[05:06] <kbg_20> soundray: :) i would be happy if i too can get it to work
[05:06] <soundray> kbg_20, do you want to pm me and give me some way to contact you in case of success?
[05:07] <no0tic> With the latest kernel (2.6.15-13-k7) on dapper powernow_k7 doesn't load and cpu freq scaling doesn't work
[05:07] <graft> well, i still seem to have problems with some things grabbing audio channels
[05:07] <kbg_20> soundray: gotta register first to be able to pm you..
[05:07] <graft> e.g. when i'm playing audio with amarok-xine, and i try playing a video with mplayer -ao sdl, the latter won't work
[05:07] <graft> or vice versa
[05:07] <kbg_20> soundray: will do that and then pm you..
[05:08] <ilba7r> yap everything working fine here
[05:08] <soundray> kbg_20, okay.
[05:08] <Alakazam> soundray, i figured out my sound problem.
[05:08] <Alakazam> Speakers were unplugged
[05:08] <Alakazam> lololoolol
[05:08] <robin_> wtf
[05:08] <Alakazam> oops
[05:09] <robin_> apt-get update behaves weird
[05:09] <robin_> 99% [Er wordt verbinding gemaakt met security.ubuntu.com (82.211.81.138)] 
[05:09] <Alakazam> robin_, are you sure the sources are there.
[05:09] <Alakazam> and that your internet connections sufficient?
[05:09] <robin_> it can't connect
[05:09] <robin_> :{
[05:09] <pitti> robin_: known, security.ubuntu.com is slow as hell ATM
[05:09] <robin_> yep
[05:09] <Alakazam> and that your internet connections sufficient?
[05:09] <Alakazam> ok
[05:09] <robin_> pitti: damn :{
[05:09] <robin_> when is that fixed?
[05:10] <soundray> Alakazam, I guess it reinforces the 'always check the obvious' message...
[05:10] <Alakazam> lol... i guess so.
[05:10] <Alakazam> heh
[05:10] <Alakazam> sorry man
[05:10] <nalioth> robin_: security is slow atm
[05:10] <Alakazam> this is a sweet distro
[05:11] <Alakazam> got DRI, sound, wireless...
[05:11] <Alakazam> everything working.
[05:11] <robin_> 99% [Wachtend op de kopteksten] 
[05:11] <robin_>  <-- now it wants the headers.. :(
[05:11] <robin_> finall
[05:11] <robin_> y
[05:11] <robin_> its done =D
[05:11] <nubbe> is there a gnome or system console, where all commands can be seen? or ny way to set up something like that?
[05:11] <graft> nubbe: what are you talking about, "all commands"?
[05:12] <nubbe> graft, like stuff happening when u launch a menu or an app
[05:12] <tristan_> nubbe : open your console and typ on the tabulation twice
[05:13] <tristan_> It will propose you to display the 1000s possibilities
[05:13] <graft> nubbe: um, you want to see all debugging output from all programs? why?
[05:13] <azrak> hi sirs, when I go to add an application i find the check box disabled. clicking it says it's not available for your hardware platform, what's this?
[05:13] <LeeJunFan> nalioth: sry, away from keyboard, I don't know actually. I've heard it does.
[05:13] <_jason> azrak: what's your hw platforman and what is the app?
[05:14] <nubbe> tristan_, ?  :)  What console?   typ tabaulation?
[05:14] <Corrupter> i have a laptop with no CD Rom drive, but i have a flash drive, is there any way to do a USB Flash Drive installation of Ubuntu?
[05:15] <azrak> _jason, Pentium 4, lots of applications like gnome-ppp, ...............
[05:15] <azrak> _jason, almost all applications not installed are dimmed
[05:15] <spike> hi there
[05:15] <spike> is security.ubuntu.com down?
[05:15] <robin_> ..
[05:15] <nalioth> spike: no, it's handing out a large file update today
[05:15] <robin_> yup
[05:15] <robin_> :|
[05:16] <robin_> nope nalioth, it's down
[05:16] <nalioth> robin_: it is very slow, but not down.
[05:16] <robin_> W: Kon de status van de bronpakketlijst http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) niet opvragen - stat (2 Onbekend bestand of map)
[05:16] <robin_> it IS down
[05:16] <robin_> see?
[05:16] <deFrysk> robin_, if you say so
[05:16] <robin_> its dutch,.,
[05:16] <_jason> azrak: I don't know what dimming means in synaptic, so try to use apt-get and see what it says.  'sudo apt-get -s install gnome-ppp' (the -s will simulate and not actually install)
[05:16] <soundray> Corrupter, I think it's possible. The manual also describes a network-based install. Is that an option?
[05:16] <deFrysk> silly dutch
[05:16] <nalioth> robin_: don't paste in here. your apt will give up after a set time. that doesnt mean the site is down.
[05:16] <robin_> nalioth: ok
[05:17] <Corrupter> not unless it's a wireless network install, which i doubt
[05:17] <robin_> i used cpm update :p
[05:17] <_jason> azrak: you have enabled the appropriate repos right? (universe and multiverse)
[05:17] <azrak> _jason, thanks I will try it now and report after 20 mins
[05:17] <soundray> Corrupter, well the concept IIRC is, you download the install iso and boot it from HD.
[05:17] <azrak> _jason, yes all repo enabled
[05:18] <robin_> azrak: maybe it's due the fact that some repos are slow?
[05:18] <robin_> FINALLY
[05:18] <lolzer> HiddenFly: i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:18] <lolzer> :D
[05:19] <Corrupter> well if i'm going to do that i could just get the iso on the HD with a flash drive
[05:19] <nubbe> tristan_, I see what u mean, but I was hoping to see what gnome does when i click  something, and maybe pipe it to a log
[05:19] <kbg_20> soundray: btw, my sound card is the realtek alc850 that you had mentioned..shows up in alsamixergui
[05:19] <tristan_> nubbe : if you open a terminal and type on the tabulation twice it will ask you if you want to display all the command allowed in the terminal
[05:19] <soundray> Corrupter, http://archive.ubuntulinux.org/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current/doc/manual/en/ Section 4.3 will answer your question, I think.
[05:20] <_jason> nubbe: I've wanted to do the same thing, let me know if you figure it out
[05:20] <soundray> kbg_20, okay.
[05:20] <nubbe> tristan_, yes, I saw that, thanks. That's not exactly what I wanted...
[05:20] <lolzer> cara eu preciso cheirar cola :(
[05:20] <tristan_> nubbe : OK. Sorry
[05:20] <nubbe> _jason, prolly never  then  :(  ;)
[05:21] <lolzer> HiddenFly: i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:21] <lolzer> i have xino installed, but how to use ?thanks
[05:22] <selinium> nalioth, I am on live cd now. Do I resize the partition first, then create a newpartitin in the space?
[05:22] <nubbe> I'm not looking for debug info from all apps, just what gnome does...
[05:22] <virogenesis> dapper will contain a firewall am i correct?
[05:22] <nalioth> virogenesis: all linux has firewall capability
[05:23] <soundray> selinium, that sounds sensible. Have you backed up your data?
[05:23] <selinium> soundray, I dont have enough space to back up the data....
[05:24] <soundray> selinium, back up your most valuable data, then. Resizing is still a bit of a risky procedure.
[05:25] <_jason> nubbe: errors get sent to ~/.xsession-errors apparently
[05:26] <gnomefreak> X yuck :(
[05:27] <tobi> LIST
[05:27] <HiddenFly> lolzer: watch that damn hilight thx
[05:27] <lolzer> HiddenFly: nothing
[05:28] <matid> Does anyone know when Ubuntu developers are going to upgrade linux-kernel-modules package in Dapper?
[05:28] <lolzer> [[05:28] <soundray> lolzer: using X-Chat?
[05:28] <lolzer> no i'm using a script
[05:28] <nubbe> _jason, thanks
[05:28] <brbrbrbrasilllll> hi, what apt-get install <thing> do i have to type to get sun-jre? i got breezy bagger.
[05:28] <Pygi> matid: I suggest you go to ubuntu-devel
[05:28] <Pygi> !java
[05:28] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:28] <Pygi> !javadebs
[05:29] <brbrbrbrasilllll> oh.
[05:29] <brbrbrbrasilllll> isn't there a simple apt-get?
[05:29] <Pygi> ubotu tell brbrbrbrasilllll about javadebs
[05:29] <_jason> ubotu: tell Pygi about javadeb
[05:29] <lolzer> !xino
[05:29] <ubotu> lolzer: No idea
[05:29] <lolzer> !apt
[05:29] <ubotu> hmm... apt is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[05:29] <Pygi> I know about javadeb, whats problem jason? :P
[05:30] <definity> is a .pl file pearl???
[05:30] <lolzer> !kernel
[05:30] <nalioth> ubotu: tell brbrbrbrasilllll about javadebs
[05:30] <nalioth> definity: yes
[05:30] <definity> k
[05:30] <definity> how do i compile pearl?
[05:30] <nalioth> lolzer: please dont fish with the bot, use google if you get no answers here
[05:30] <redguy> definity: no
[05:30] <_jason> Pygi: oops sorry... /me needs to work on nick ocloring script
[05:30] <nalioth> definity: you dont. it's already installed
[05:30] <redguy> definity: it's perl and you don't compile it
[05:30] <definity> but when i click on a .pl file it just opens up in kate
[05:31] <nalioth> definity: then you need to make it executable "chmod +x file.pl"
[05:31] <definity> thanks il try that now
[05:32] <Pygi> gnomefreak: wake up, and write chapters :P
[05:32] <Mayli> hei
[05:33] <definity> thanks guy works fine now
[05:33] <lolzer> wtf
[05:33] <lolzer> or chmod u+x file.pl
[05:33] <lolzer> or chmod 777 file.pl
[05:33] <gnomefreak> Pygi: im working on biotech homework :(
[05:33] <Pygi> gnomefreak: bah
[05:33] <gnomefreak> ill trade you?
[05:33] <Pygi> gnomefreak: how, lol? :P
[05:33] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:33] <Mayli> wazzup?
[05:34] <Pygi> gnomefreak: I'll make your homework, you code my app :)
[05:34] <_jason> In .xsessionerrors I have a message saying "checking for new mail... 2 unread messages", how would I check this?  I tried 'mail user' for my users as well as root
[05:34] <PrideF> just curious, how many in here do you think used to use Debian Unstable?
[05:34] <Stormx3> Hey all
[05:34] <brbrbrbrasilllll> i want to install jre with an apt-get!
[05:34] <gnomefreak> lol Pygi starting next saterday ill be coding and doing homework :(
[05:34] <nalioth> jason_: mutt
[05:34] <Pygi> brb: U CANT DO IT :P
[05:35] <Mayli> wth is this..?
[05:35] <CactusWiZaRd> how do i install unrar?
[05:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell brbrbrbrasilllll about java
[05:35] <Pygi> I told him 100 times already freaky
[05:35] <redguy> !info unrar
[05:35] <gnomefreak> lol Pygi hell stop asking sooner or later :)
[05:36] <Stormx2> surely just sudo apt-get install unrar
[05:36] <gnomefreak> you can get blackdown from repos but eh
[05:36] <nalioth> CactusWiZaRd: install unrar-nonfree
[05:36] <_jason> redguy: try unrar-free or unrar-nonfree
[05:36] <Stormx2> yes.
[05:36] <tucoz> sorry for not rtfm, but do you know what blackdown is? Is that a gpl licenced java-version?
[05:36] <nalioth> Stormx2: redguy: unrar comes in 2 flavors unrar-free and unrar-nonfree
[05:36] <gnomefreak> tucoz: for the most part
[05:36] <Stormx2> nalioth: I remembered ;-) I thought that might be the rar package, though.
[05:37] <brbrbrbrasilllll> k i got black something java
[05:37] <CactusWiZaRd> which one is better?
[05:37] <Pygi> !blackdown
[05:37] <ubotu> Pygi: Syntax error in line 1
[05:37] <Pygi> !info blackdown
[05:37] <tucoz> gnomefreak, ok. Is it better than gcj?
[05:37] <lolzer> is possible to root ubuntu with krad3 ?
[05:37] <Stormx2> nalioth: The free version is 3.4 and the unfree is 4 or something.
[05:37] <redguy> _jason, nalioth: thanks
[05:37] <brbrbrbrasilllll> ya
[05:37] <tucoz> gnomefreak, with better I mean better support for the sun java api
[05:37] <gnomefreak> tucoz: thats debatable i get jave from sunjava i learned not to use blackdown :)
[05:38] <tucoz> ok, I'll do that as well then
[05:38] <lolzer> Linux ubuntu 2.6.10-5-386 #1 Tue Apr 5 12:12:40 UTC 2005 i686 GNU/Linux
[05:38] <lolzer> [-]  This kernel not vulnerability!!!
[05:38] <lolzer> nice :)
[05:38] <Alakazam> lol
[05:38] <Alakazam> ok
[05:38] <Alakazam> thats l33t
[05:38] <CactusWiZaRd> console says that unrar-free doesn't exist O_o
[05:38] <Alakazam> mike@malakai:~$ glxinfo |grep render
[05:38] <Alakazam> direct rendering: Yes
[05:38] <Alakazam> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 915G 20050225
[05:38] <Alakazam> thats l33t too
[05:38] <redguy> CactusWiZaRd: unrar-free is in universe, unrar-nonfree is in multiverse. The difference, besides the license, seems to be that unrar-nonfree would extract all of winrar created archives.
[05:38] <pixelfairy> maybe i read this wrong, but the installer for ubuntu said "preparing for popularity contest"
[05:39] <nalioth> CactusWiZaRd: you need to enable universe and multiverse repos
[05:39] <gnomefreak> tucoz: the best and safest way to run java is getting it from sunjava
[05:39] <lolzer> tulioanjos@ubuntu:~$ glxinfo |grep render
[05:39] <lolzer> Error: unable to open display (null)
[05:39] <lolzer> maybe it is leet too ..
[05:39] <tucoz> gnomefreak, ok. thanks for the info. I am downloading it as we speak :)
[05:39] <gnomefreak> lolzer: take render off the end and see if it opens than
[05:39] <lolzer> gnomefreak: no
[05:40] <lolzer> it is running on SSh, let me test on vmware :p
[05:40] <redguy> lolzer: how about glxinfo -display 0:0 | grep render
[05:40] <CactusWiZaRd> nalioth: and how can i do that? before i installed Ubuntu again, i somehow installed it, i don't even have any clue how and so on...
[05:41] <nalioth> ubotu: tell CactusWiZaRd about repos
[05:41] <Alakazam> lolzer, install the drivers.
[05:41] <Alakazam> what kinda video card do you have.
[05:41] <lolzer> Alakazam: it is running on vmware -.-
[05:41] <lolzer> and vmware tools is alerady installed
[05:42] <_jason> nalioth: okay I tried checking mail for my two users using mutt, then I used the mail command for every user in /etc/passwd... and no luck finding those 2 mail messages.  The .xsession-errors log is timestamped at about an hour ago saying something had 2.  Any ideas why?
[05:42] <tarzan_> hi
[05:42] <lolzer> is the exim a smtp server. . ?
[05:43] <Ng> yes
[05:43] <nalioth> jason_: i have no clue, i type mutt and it comes up with the system mail
[05:43] <tucoz> heh, I just realized I have avoided using useful tools for quite some time now as I didn't have java installed
[05:44] <Alakazam> oh
[05:44] <Alakazam> then install vmware tools
[05:44] <Alakazam> why are you trying to do 3D in vmware?!
[05:45] <Alakazam> here man: http://www.vmware.com/support/guestnotes/doc/guestos_ubuntu510.html
[05:45] <lolzer> gcc fudp.c -Wall -pedantic -o fudp
[05:46] <lolzer> fudp = ddos rlz
[05:46] <tarzan_> i have a strange problem with xfe, konqueror, nautilus... my entire system freezes when i use drag and drop with video files... i can't even change to one of the normal consoles
[05:46] <_jason> nalioth: I see, when I type mutt it asks me if I want to create /home/jasonr/Mail (jasonr is my username).  Should it be looking elsewhere for the mail?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> lolzer: whats wrong with gcc fudp.c -o fudp?
[05:46] <lolzer> gnomefreak: nothing xD
[05:46] <redguy> lolzer: that is truly l33t, but what does this have to do with ubuntu?
[05:46] <gnomefreak> ok good :)
[05:47] <nalioth> jason_: weird. i've always typed mutt and gotten the mail.
[05:47] <lolzer> i'm looking for, how to vmware accept external connections
[05:47] <lolzer> but i didnt find anything about it :(
[05:47] <_jason> nalioth: alright, thanks for the info
[05:47] <burning_bronx> !automatix
[05:47] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:48] <lolzer> !xim
[05:48] <ubotu> Wish i knew, lolzer
[05:48] <lolzer> !exim
[05:48] <ubotu> lolzer: Wish i knew
[05:48] <fabricebonny> hi everybody, I'm looking for a way to see attributes from mozilla LDAP schema in Evolution
[05:48] <Alakazam> lolzer, you heard of megasploit?>
[05:48] <lolzer> Alakazam: lol
[05:49] <Alakazam> ahah
[05:49] <Alakazam> http://www.metasploit.com/projects/Framework/
[05:49] <Alakazam> that
[05:49] <lolzer> what is that .. ?!
[05:49] <Alakazam> "point, click WOOT"
[05:49] <Alakazam> lol
[05:49] <fxe> I am having a problem with accessing my DVD ROM, I got a DVD CD and I try to open the DVD ROM Drive and I get this error:
[05:49] <fxe> Warning: device /dev/hdc is already handled by /etc/fstab, supplied label is ignored
[05:49] <fxe> mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[05:49] <fxe> mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc,
[05:49] <fxe>        missing codepage or other error
[05:49] <fxe>        In some cases useful info is found in syslog - try
[05:49] <Alakazam> aahahahaa
[05:49] <fxe>        dmesg | tail  or so
[05:49] <Alakazam> check it out
[05:49] <fxe> Error: could not execute pmount
[05:49] <gnomefreak> lol
[05:49] <Pygi> NO PASTE :/
[05:49] <Pygi> NO PASTE :/
[05:49] <PrideF> fxe!!!!!
[05:49] <Pygi> damn it :P
[05:49] <fxe> Ah Sorry.
[05:49] <_jason> ubotu: tell fxe about pastebin
[05:49] <gnomefreak> fxe: dont paste in here
[05:49] <PrideF> fxe >>> burn!!!!
[05:49] <Alakazam> yeah
[05:50] <Alakazam> use a paste bin
[05:50] <Alakazam> jesus
[05:50] <Alakazam> it'll flood the serv er
[05:50] <fxe> heh like I killed you all because I have pasted it
[05:50] <PrideF> just for that, I won't answer your question!!!  ;)
[05:50] <xored> iam just tryied to make a own kernel, everything worked but i think i cannot get the SATA driver running. When iam trying to boot, he fails mounting sda6 cause he is no abel to find it. I have a ich6 SATA controller and the PiiX module build in. Should i better use the AHCI one ?
[05:50] <fxe> PrideF, because you don't know, you lamer
[05:50] <Alakazam> lol
[05:50] <nalioth> fxe: do you read channel /topics when you arrive into irc channels?
[05:50] <airton> tem alguel para tc
[05:50] <PrideF> haha, and he flames, too.  yay, you are NEAT
[05:50] <Alakazam> QOTD: fxe PrideF, because you don't know, you lamer
[05:50] <nalioth> ubotu: tell fxe about conduct
[05:50] <dwight_> nick DShepherd
[05:51] <Alakazam> nide
[05:51] <Alakazam> nice*
[05:51] <_jason> !pt
[05:51] <PrideF> you are automounting, you "lamer"
[05:51] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) ou #ubuntu-pt (/j #ubuntu-pt) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigada.
[05:51] <nalioth> ubotu: tell PrideF about conduct
[05:51] <Alakazam> lolzer, you checking it out?
[05:51] <Alakazam> http://www.metasploit.com/index.html
[05:52] <lolzer> Alakazam: no
[05:52] <lolzer> i dont have internet access
[05:52] <Alakazam> you should.
[05:52] <Alakazam> oh
[05:52] <Alakazam> proxy then.
[05:52] <lolzer> j/k
[05:52] <lolzer> :p
[05:52] <lolzer> i'm not looking for exploits bro
[05:54] <Alakazam> they're not exploits
[05:54] <lolzer> yes they're3
[05:54] <Alakazam> they're penetration testing tool kits
[05:54] <Alakazam> :)
[05:54] <Frafra> hi all
[05:54] <Alakazam> high
[05:54] <Frafra> i've a problem
[05:54] <lolzer> dont talk about penetrion, i only have 15 years :(
[05:54] <Alakazam> me too, i poop too much.
[05:54] <Ng> maybe you're lactose intolerant ;)
[05:54] <Ng> this is off-topic though :p
[05:55] <Alakazam> give me a scoop of chocolate, and vanila.
[05:55] <Alakazam> true, touche.
[05:55] <Frafra> I need make a dvd video from an avi video in another dvd reader. i've tryied dvdshrink
[05:55] <lolzer> lol it is off-topic, but we try to help who are having problems
[05:55] <Frafra> this is the output: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/zqlOPQ85.html
[05:55] <lolzer> i'm looking for, how to vmware accept external connections
[05:56] <noproblem> hi
[05:57] <sergio__> lserver irc.autistici.org
[05:57] <Frafra> who can help me?
[05:58] <noproblem> i can
[05:58] <Alakazam> http://pastebin.com/514814
[05:58] <Alakazam> lol@that
[05:58] <jenda> Frafra: no idea... try searching the forum - I'm sure I saw that mentioned somewhere
[05:59] <Frafra> ok, thx
[06:00] <noproblem> im using breezy and its fine..should i switch to dapper?
[06:00] <robotgeek> !dapper
[06:00] <ubotu> rumour has it, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:00] <noproblem> for perhaps newer packages and more features
[06:01] <rod> geez
[06:01] <redguy> noproblem: install dapper and you will have to change your nick
[06:01] <noproblem> redguy: whys that?
[06:01] <rod> how to check which device in /dev is my cdrom? The cdrom link in /dev is pointed wrong
[06:01] <noproblem> oh heheh
[06:02] <redguy> :-)
[06:02] <nima_> hullow
[06:03] <nima_> can someone tell me what hda(1,0) means
[06:03] <Xenguy> rod: you can try: dmesg |grep hd
[06:03] <jenda> noproblem: I don't recommend switching just yet, unless, as seggested, the current state of "no problem" irritates you. Dapper is not safe nor stable
[06:03] <Xenguy> rod: look for your CD-ROM in that log
[06:03] <jenda> NOproblem: It's meant to be tested mainly - using is risky
[06:03] <NOproblem> ya i think i can stick to breezy
[06:03] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[06:03] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:04] <gnomefreak> notice it says when it breaks that implies that it will break :)
[06:04] <NOproblem> i wish i could help the ubuntu community somehow
[06:04] <gnomefreak> NOproblem: there are many ways to help
[06:04] <rod> Xenguy, well nothing 'bout cdrom to be found but this info does exclude a lot devs so it should be doable to cat them all one by one to see a response
[06:05] <_jason> NOproblem: you can! https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HelpingUbuntu
[06:05] <gnomefreak> if im not mistaken sitting in here helping answer questions is on that site
[06:05] <NOproblem> gnomefreak: yes i can
[06:06] <gnomefreak> :)
[06:06] <Xenguy> rod: you really should pick up something in dmesg about your CD-ROM tho :-/
[06:06] <Bader> hi
[06:06] <gnomefreak> hi
[06:07] <rod> well Xenguy, join #flood and ill show you the output :)
[06:07] <gnomefreak> _jason: you know about irssi it logs the away messages so you can read them when you come back :) i like that
[06:07] <rod> the outpunt aint a pretty sight though :)
[06:07] <Bader> how could I start X on dapper ? gdm refuses to start it and startx fails with "xinit: Server error"
[06:07] <Xenguy> rod: K, there now
[06:07] <_jason> gnomefreak: is there a way to read them in irssi?
[06:07] <McJerry> i have a slight emergency on a mission critical pc, grub has gone haywire, it is a dual-boot pc with xp and ubuntu on the same drive,, hda is xp on hda1 and ubuntu on hda2
[06:07] <gnomefreak> Bader: you dont
[06:07] <McJerry> i can get to the grub menu
[06:07] <Bader> gnomefreak: I don't ?
[06:07] <xeonium> i was too dumb to push new xorg updates - now i can't start x from normal user
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: thats a known bug should have had the update uploaded this am tho
[06:08] <Bader> xeonium: mee too.
[06:08] <McJerry> but the only boot option is xp and if i select it, it just returns to the grub boot menu
[06:08] <McJerry> please someone help me through this
[06:08] <xeonium> Bader: any links for fixes?
[06:08] <McJerry> it is urgent
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: run gdm restart and than try startx
[06:08] <Bader> xeonium: no.
[06:08] <Bader> gnomefreak: don't work.
[06:08] <gnomefreak> Bader: what does it say?
[06:09] <Bader> gnomefreak: "xinit: Server error"
[06:09] <Bader> gdm don't give me any error
[06:09] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi!, i'm having problems installing ubuntu breezy, it's like if the cd reader got stuck, it takes a lot of time in "Analizing CDROM", and never complete that fase
[06:09] <Bader> I installed xserver-xorg because the last upgrade uninstall it.
[06:09] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> what culd be the problem ?
[06:09] <McJerry> can anyone who is familiar with grub please read the above post and help me get back up?????
[06:10] <gnomefreak> Bader: i dont have that issue :( please look at launchpad for that bug see if its been listed if not send a bug report for that issue
[06:10] <gnomefreak> McJerry: have you tried update-grub?
[06:10] <Bader> gnomefreak: launchpad without X is painful.
[06:11] <gnomefreak> launchpad with X isnt so hot either :(
[06:11] <McJerry> gnomefreak: am only at a grub menu, grub> update-grub
[06:11] <McJerry> Error 27: Unrecognized command
[06:11] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell McJerry about grub
[06:12] <_jason> gnomefreak: my away.log has funky characters in it if I try to view it with less.  It has ^D next to names.  Does yours have that as well
[06:12] <gnomefreak> McJerry: on that site bot just sent you is info on fixing lost grub
[06:12] <gnomefreak> _jason: no
[06:12] <gnomefreak> not that ive seen
[06:13] <Bader> gnomefreak: in which package is the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config
[06:13] <gnomefreak> _jason: say something to me im gonna see if it does
[06:13] <_jason> gnomefreak: ubuntu
[06:13] <Bader> s/gnomefreak/anybody
[06:13] <zyg> ?
[06:13] <_jason> zyg: english
[06:13] <gnomefreak> its not even showing up
[06:13] <tankkiller_> is there a better FTP client than gftp?
[06:14] <gnomefreak> _jason: no it just shows the < in it
[06:14] <tankkiller_> gftp wont let me que/transfer folders
[06:14] <Xenguy> tankkiller_: lftp does nicely for command-line
[06:14] <_jason> gnomefreak: alright, i'll have to see what I did.  It's strange because the channel logs don't have it
[06:14] <tankkiller_> im looking for a GUI
[06:15] <Xenguy> tankkiller_: I hear that Filezilla is being ported from d0ze to linux, but I gather that is future tense
[06:15] <gnomefreak> _jason: maybe due to any other scripts you have conflicting with it
[06:15] <_jason> gnomefreak: all I have is nm
[06:15] <gnomefreak> thats all i have too :)
[06:15] <tankkiller_> k, its too bad GFTP sux :(
[06:15] <Bader> Does anybody can telle me in which package is the file /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config (dpkg -S /etc/X11/Xwrapper.config)
[06:16] <arrinmurr> tankkiller_: http://filezilla-project.org/nightly.php
[06:16] <Ng> tankkiller_: there are others
[06:16] <Ng> tankkiller_: search synaptic for ftp client :)
[06:16] <Bader> tankkiller_: nautilus is a ftp client and GFTP is good enough.
[06:16] <nalioth> Bader: install and update 'apt-file' and you can search for any file you like
[06:16] <tankkiller_> how do I get GFTP to transfer a folder?
[06:17] <nalioth> tankkiller_: highlight the folder and then the arrow in the direction you want it to go
[06:17] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi, all.
[06:17] <sepa> hello, can any1 help me installing rddtool? it says that c++ fails sanity check...
[06:17] <Bader> nalioth: apt-file doesn't find it.
[06:18] <Seventh-NIXing> I could do with a hand getting my Ubuntu box on my network.
[06:18] <zoexii> hello, I need some help finding help...  I recently upgraded processor and motherboard from PIII to AMD Athlon XP.  My Ubuntu install made the transition without problem, but my windows install crashes while booting.  Can I reinstall windows without damaging my Ubuntu install?
[06:19] <Seventh-NIXing> I think it depends on how your drives are partitioned and suchlike, zoex.
[06:19] <Juhaz> zoexii, reinstalling windows will possibly overwrite the bootloader
[06:19] <Bader> zoexii: if your drives are partioned windows will erase grub if you install it on the same drive.
[06:20] <zoexii> Juhaz, Bader, I currently have grub in the MBR, windows on first partition, and Ubuntu on the remainder
[06:20] <xeonium> Bader: http://lists.debian.org/debian-x/2000/12/msg00251.html
[06:20] <Bader> zoexii: happily you can reinstall it with the ubuntu installation cdrom
[06:20] <McJerry> gnomefreak: running rescue and update-grub got ubuntu to boot, tx, but now prob is when i select the xp options, i just get grub grub grub running across screen....suggestions?????
[06:20] <Seventh-NIXing> Any chance of advice on my networking probs?
[06:20] <Spec> zoexii: windows will overwrite your MBR, but it's simple enough to reinstall grub on top of it
[06:20] <Bader> xeonium: what does it say ? it seems very old...
[06:20] <Pygi> !grub
[06:20] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[06:20] <miki> hello, i need some help with ubuntu and my speedtouch330 router
[06:20] <xeonium> Bader: its autogenerated file
[06:20] <Spec> hehe, there's a good doc :p
[06:21] <xeonium> so you won't find it in packages
[06:21] <Bader> xeonium: and does it say what could I do ?
[06:21] <zoexii> Spec, do I use the ubuntu install cd to do this?
[06:21] <redguy> miki: I hear you
[06:21] <Seventh-NIXing> My Ubuntu PC's MAC addy appears on my router's DCHP client page if I use DCHP, but I can't ping or do anything useful in either direction.
[06:21] <Spec> zoexii:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[06:21] <Pygi> sevent: firewall?
[06:21] <zoexii> Spec, cool, thanks...
[06:21] <xeonium> Bader: packagers messed up some security settings in xserver, i guess
[06:21] <Seventh-NIXing> Not on my Ubuntu box... as far as I know.
[06:22] <Pygi> well, install and configure firewall
[06:22] <Pygi> ubuntu has no open ports by default
[06:22] <redguy> Pygi: but it answers to pings, doesn't it
[06:22] <Seventh-NIXing> I can't ping the router from the Ubuntu box either, though.
[06:22] <miki> when im trying to install speedtech thingy on my ubuntu, it says error: USBUsage: lspci (switches)
[06:22] <Pygi> redguy: no it does not
[06:23] <Pygi> redguy: read question
[06:23] <Seventh-NIXing> Surely I'd be able to ping the gateway still, though?
[06:23] <simpo> how to change system input text encoding becouse i'd like to make www sites in iso encoding ?
[06:23] <Pygi> well, the gateway, but nothing behide the gateway
[06:23] <Nivko> !apache
[06:23] <ubotu> apache is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP or, for Ubuntu server information, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/support/documentation/faq/installation-custom
[06:24] <Bader> xeonium: did you fix it on your computer ?
[06:24] <trappist> simpo: you'd change that in your apache config
[06:24] <xeonium> Bader: by installing and running gdm, but i want better solution
[06:24] <simpo> trappist-> i work on a remoter server
[06:25] <giorgos> is this the #ubuntu channel?
[06:25] <trappist> simpo: maybe I'm misunderstanding your question, but the encoding of your web pages is set in your apache config or a .htaccess file
[06:25] <Seventh-NIXing> Yep. Hi.
[06:25] <Xenguy> giorgos: nod
[06:25] <bionic> giorgos: topic? :)
[06:25] <Bader> xeonium: don't work either
[06:26] <Xenguy> sepa: don't do that
[06:26] <McJerry> i have fixed the ubuntu option in grub, ubuntu boots fine now
[06:26] <giorgos> i'm trying to install a program and have problem
[06:26] <miki> my floppy wont work under ubuntu! help
[06:26] <McJerry> why when i select winxp it just repeats "grub" all over the screen and does not boot to xp?
[06:26] <McJerry> ?
[06:27] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: your'e getting timeouts on the ping? or something in the lines of 'host unreachable'
[06:27] <simpo> trae-> yes i know, but i'm talking about system encoding. when i write something in text editor its in UTF8 code and i'd like it in ISO-...-2 code
[06:27] <giorgos> i am running setup.sh via konsole and I get bash: ./SETUP.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied
[06:27] <Seventh-NIXing> redguy: "host unreachable" at one point. Let me re-check.
[06:27] <giorgos> i am running setup.sh via konsole and I get          "bash: ./SETUP.SH: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied"
[06:28] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, "unreachable".
[06:28] <Xenguy> giorgos: check to see whether it has executable permissions
[06:28] <giorgos> ok how?
[06:28] <McJerry> why when i select winxp it just repeats "grub" all over the screen and does not boot to xp?
[06:28] <Bader> giorgos: try: chmod +x setup.sh && sh setup.sh
[06:28] <Xenguy> giorgos: ls -l setup.sh
[06:28] <giorgos> well, it should have the manual says to run this
[06:28] <tankkiller_> is there anyway to set GFTP to skip files that are already being downloaded?
[06:29] <Seventh-NIXing> Check anyway, giorgos.
[06:29] <tankkiller_> my ISP has capped ftp transfers and I need to pull multiple threads to max out my speed
[06:29] <tankkiller_> so I do 3 seperate logins and que what I need
[06:29] <xeonium> Bader: chmod +s /usr/bin/X helps
[06:29] <robotgeek> giorgos: are you running this on a ntfs/fat32 partition?
[06:29] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: care to do some pasting? what does sudo ip ad && sudo ip ro say?
[06:29] <tankkiller_> but gftp will write the same file multiple times
[06:30] <redguy> !tell Seventh-NIXing about pastebin
[06:30] <giorgos> giorgos@elab5:/media/cdrom0$ ls -l SETUP.SH
[06:30] <giorgos> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root daemon 16121 2003-10-21 11:47 SETUP.SH
[06:30] <robotgeek> tankkiller_: maybe try using prozilla?
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> Indeed. Ta.
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> *you
[06:30] <giorgos> i think it
[06:30] <tankkiller_> k
[06:30] <giorgos> it is ext3
[06:30] <Seventh-NIXing> Just eth0 do, redguy?
[06:31] <r0bby> grim, ping
[06:31] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi, i'm having problems with the installation of ubuntu, it reads the cd too sloooow, it takes hours to do the "Analizing cd" step, and got stuck before finishing, any ideas?
[06:31] <robotgeek> giorgos: hmm, weird. however, the file is owned by root, and you don't have executable permission to it
[06:31] <Xenguy> giorgos: so you need to be root to run the file, or else change the ownership; depending on your needs
[06:31] <giorgos> ok let me change to root
[06:31] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: huh?
[06:32] <mike-w> how do i install a gdm theme?
[06:32] <Bader> xiaogil: no, now gdm refuses to launch
[06:32] <giorgos> root@elab5:/media/cdrom0# ls -l SETUP.SH
[06:32] <giorgos> -rwxr-xr-x  1 root daemon 16121 2003-10-21 11:47 SETUP.SH
[06:32] <giorgos> same again...
[06:32] <giorgos> now what?
[06:33] <Seventh-NIXing> Just for the network adapter in question, redguy? Not loopback, etc.?
[06:33] <miki> hey, anyone can help me? ubuntu wont see my floppy
[06:33] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: does it matter? just paste the whole thing
[06:33] <Bader> I can launch Xorg but not gdm ? any helps ?
[06:34] <Xenguy> giorgos: hrm... try this, then paste just the top 1 line of output: head SETUP.SH
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> Here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7409
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, well, I'm having to hand-type it on my Windows PC, y'see.
[06:34] <giorgos> didn't understand u want the 1st line of the setup.sh?
[06:34] <Seventh-NIXing> miki: no sign of it at all?
[06:34] <Xenguy> giorgos: yep
[06:35] <Neon|idle> anyone got a few minutes to help me try and update my 5.04 install to 5.10 ?
[06:35] <miki> seventh
[06:35] <giorgos> #!/bin/sh
[06:35] <Seventh-NIXing> Yes?
[06:35] <Xenguy> giorgos: looks fine
[06:35] <miki> seventh-nixing: under terminal = no see, but under nautilus i cant open it... says bad file system
[06:36] <Xenguy> giorgos: If you want to run the script as root, then paste the output to #flood, or a pastebin, then we can have a look
[06:36] <giorgos> wanna send it its only 15KB
[06:36] <Xenguy> giorgos: ^^
[06:36] <Seventh-NIXing> Does the floppy drive even chug when you try to access it? The light come on?
[06:36] <giorgos> ok not jargon plz u r talking to an apprentice
[06:36] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: i just copied some install files from windows and then i tried to copy them to ubuntu but it wont work
[06:36] <Xenguy> !u
[06:36] <ubotu> The letter 'U' is not a pronoun, unless you're Dutch.  U mag wel 'je' zeggen, hoor.
[06:37] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: no sign of work
[06:37] <giorgos> ^^ =?
[06:37] <cosmita> why do I get a host error when I start audacity? the sound recording does not work
[06:37] <giorgos> nob
[06:37] <vity> hi
[06:37] <Bader> GDM don't give me any error excepting its error code: 1
[06:37] <Seventh-NIXing> Hm, sorry, miki, I don't know. Maybe the info I gleaned from you will get you help from someone else, though.
[06:37] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi, vity.
[06:37] <Bader> it seems that xinit in dapper is broken
[06:37] <Xenguy> giorgos: by '^^' I just meant 'see above' :-)
[06:37] <cosmita> with sound recorder it works. with audacity it doesn't
[06:37] <vity> can someone tell me how to used sudo?
[06:38] <Bader> vity: sudo command and type your user password launch command as root
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> sudo <pathname>
[06:38] <miki> Seventh-NIXing: brb, i will check it again in 30min
[06:38] <giorgos> oh ok thought it was some kinfd of smilie
[06:38] <Bader> vity: sudo -s launch a root shell
[06:38] <chmod775> do we have a rss reader for ubuntu?
[06:38] <Xenguy> vity: there is only one password -- yours
[06:38] <vity> can i install stuff with a live cd?
[06:38] <Alakazam> lol@installing windows xp on vmware
[06:38] <Xenguy> chmod775: apt-cache search rss |less
[06:38] <robotgeek> chmod775: liferea, blam and several others
[06:38] <Bader> vity: see man sudo
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> I always just do, i.e., sudo vi /etc/network/interfaces
[06:38] <Alakazam> can you tell im bored?
[06:38] <giorgos> ok what's flood and pastebin
[06:38] <Alakazam> haha!
[06:38] <Seventh-NIXing> vity: install the OS, or extra software, or what?
[06:38] <Bader> vity: there is gksudo which is the graphical equivalent of sudo
[06:38] <Xenguy> !tell giorgos about pastebin
[06:39] <robotgeek> vity: yes, but it won't remain
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> giorgos: it's just a website that stores stuff that you put in a form.
[06:39] <chmod775> thanks dude
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> redguy, any ideas?
[06:39] <Xenguy> giorgos: #flood is an IRC channel were it's OK to paste large amounts of text
[06:39] <vity> i just need to extract some stuff to the lib directory and it wont let me at the moment
[06:39] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: hrm, everything looks ok there. can you ping 192.168.2.128 from the ubuntu box?
[06:39] <Seventh-NIXing> Yes, I can.
[06:39] <giorgos> oh got the point
[06:40] <vity> so can someone tell me the exact steps on what i need to do?
[06:40] <Xenguy> giorgos: please prepend my nick if you want me to follow also; it's busy in here, and some of us are on more than one channel
[06:40] <Seventh-NIXing> vity: you can't write to a CD-ROM :|
[06:40] <vity> but it loads to memory :p
[06:40] <Seventh-NIXing> I doubt it loads the entire contents of the CD into memory. Not that I know much :)
[06:40] <vity> it doesnt run fully off the cd
[06:41] <vity> the whole system is about 100mb
[06:41] <Neon|idle> how do i format my pc? and start over?
[06:41] <vity> which is loaded into ram
[06:41] <Seventh-NIXing> Just pop in the install disc, Neon.
[06:41] <NOproblem> what if you could make it rain on the desktop and still use it?
[06:41] <Neon|idle> cba with trying this, rather go right into 5.10
[06:41] <Seventh-NIXing> The install wizard will give you the opportunity of ditching everything.
[06:42] <vity> so how do u use sudo???
[06:42] <vity> i need a clear step by step!!
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> Well, you're in a terminal, right?
[06:42] <vity> ya
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> 1. sudo <normal command>
[06:42] <Seventh-NIXing> 2. Type your password.
[06:42] <nalioth> ubotu: tell vity about rootsudo
[06:42] <no0tic> How do I use the rt2400 kernel module to use my realtek 8180 wireless NIC?
[06:43] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Seventh-NIXing about rootsudo
[06:43] <vity> ive seen that website!!!
[06:43] <no0tic> If I modprobe rt2400 it doesn't create any device
[06:43] <vity> i dont understand it
[06:43] <giorgos> Xengy: it didn't accept the whole text
[06:43] <nalioth> vity: it has 'step by step' instructions, if you read it
[06:43] <vity> i said clear without too much jargon
[06:44] <lolzer> what is the bgest linux distro ?
[06:44] <vity> what is the default password with a live cd?
[06:44] <jenda> lolzer: Ubuntu is the most popular
[06:44] <nalioth> vity: at the bottom of that page has "step by step" (as clear as you could want)
[06:44] <lolzer> jenda: :p
[06:44] <Neon|idle> ..please?
[06:44] <NOproblem> whats the ubuntu site again for contributing
[06:44] <lolzer> contributing with stolen cards ?
[06:45] <vity> ye, but it needs the password which i dont have
[06:45] <lolzer> root passwrd ?
[06:45] <lolzer> try nothing xD
[06:45] <vity> tried that :p
[06:45] <nalioth> vity: there is none
[06:45] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7409
[06:45] <redguy> Seventh-NIXing: sorry can't think of anything :/
[06:45] <Seventh-NIXing> S'alright. Ta for trying.
[06:46] <vity> ok. i am gonna try it. if it doesnt work i'll come back
[06:46] <Seventh-NIXing> Just compounding the info for anyone just popping on.
[06:47] <no0tic> Seventh-NIXing, could you paste ifconfig output?
[06:47] <NOproblem> how do you make it rain on the ubuntu desktop like a screen saver and still use it
[06:47] <NOproblem> with sound effects and bird chirping
[06:47] <Ampsonic> Hello Hello!
[06:47] <Bader> X still doesn't launch on my box. Neither startx, neither gdm...
[06:48] <Seventh-NIXing> ifconfig... gimme a minute.
[06:48] <Ampsonic> if I may interject a quick question, what version of GCC is ubuntu shipping with these days?
[06:48] <Bader> I know I should have used dapper but know I'm stuck with it and can't do anything :(
[06:49] <no0tic> Seventh-NIXing, also route ouput
[06:49] <Bader> i really need your help because I tried everything I know about X. Xorg could be launched but I don't understand how to launch gnome-session or any other wm/desktop manager with it
[06:49] <nalioth> Ampsonic: none ship with it, you can install 4.0, 3.4 and some others
[06:49] <Ampsonic> ahh
[06:50] <Neon|idle> if anyone has a few minutes to help me clear my install and get an install of 5.10 going, please feel free to pm me. cheers.
[06:50] <JoeBlow> is their any linux program out their like Gamespy or All Seeing Eye? I cant get ASE to work under wine
[06:50] <Ampsonic> and if i wnated to put a library in a place where the dynamic linker would see it, where would i do that?
[06:50] <Bader> xinit seems broken on my machine
[06:50] <lolzer> how i can root the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel ?
[06:50] <lolzer> how i can root the ubuntu 2.6.10-5 kernel ? someone know a exploit ... ?
[06:50] <ofer_> when I try to umount or eject my DVD ROM, I get this error: umount: /media/cdrom0: device is busy
[06:51] <ofer_> Any idea what's the problem?
[06:51] <Bader> ofer_: close all your window or application using the cdrom
[06:51] <ofer_> I closed it
[06:51] <nalioth> lolzer: that is offtopic
[06:51] <Seventh-NIXing> no0tic: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7411
[06:51] <_jason> ofer_: make sure no terminal is in that directory
[06:51] <lolzer> !wine
[06:51] <lolzer> !winex
[06:51] <ubotu> lolzer: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[06:51] <Bader> ofer_: check if any application is using it.
[06:52] <lolzer> the ubuntu sources.list have this line? v
[06:52] <lolzer> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/
[06:52] <rickyjones> quick question: is vmware in any of the repos?
[06:52] <Ng> lolzer: no, the default sources.list ony has the main ubuntu repositories
[06:52] <Neon|idle> ah fuck linux, ill install windows
[06:52] <Ng> rickyjones: no, vmware is non-free
[06:52] <lolzer> auhduhah
[06:52] <lolzer> hsdhus
[06:53] <Alakazam> yep yep yep yep
[06:53] <lolzer> i'm using ubuntu on vmware, just for compiling exploits and spamming keylogger emails ...
[06:53] <lolzer> :p
[06:53] <ofer_> _jason, I tried, nothing happens
[06:53] <Ng> lolzer: we don't care, shut up
[06:53] <ofer_> I made sure
[06:53] <lolzer> Ng: calm down
[06:53] <lolzer> make relaxed
[06:53] <_jason> ofer_: try lsof /media/cdrom0
[06:53] <Dasnipa`> make all
[06:54] <lolzer> unmount ?
[06:54] <rickyjones> Ng, thanks - looks like I just gotta install it from my CD then. oh well. :)
[06:54] <Dasnipa`> unmount is not a valid command... you get bashed... its umount
[06:54] <lolzer> Dasnipa`: lol, my english is terrible
[06:57] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7411
[06:57] <Vity> how can i adjust permissions for lib folder??/
[06:57] <nalioth> Vity: you don't
[06:58] <Vity> why not?
[06:58] <Ng> Seventh-NIXing: grep /var/log/syslog for dhclient, see what the ubuntu box reckons is happening, dhcp-wose
[06:58] <Ng> -o+i
[06:58] <Seventh-NIXing> Ta.
[06:58] <nalioth> Vity: because it will break your system
[06:58] <Seventh-NIXing> Although I disabled DCHP and set a static IP after that.
[06:58] <Vity> i need to know tho!!
[06:58] <Vity> just tell me
[06:59] <Vity> i am using the live cd so it win't harm me
[06:59] <Vity> *will not
[07:00] <Ng> Seventh-NIXing: ah, well it might not show up so much then, you could try setting it back to dhcp, but run "tail -f /var/log/syslog" in a terminal first so you can see what dhclient says as it tries
[07:00] <Vity> nalioth tell me!!
[07:01] <nalioth> Vity: i already have told you.
[07:01] <Vity> tell me how to do it
[07:01] <Vity> not tell me that i shouldnt do it
[07:01] <stpere> Vity, man chmod
[07:02] <stpere> man chown
[07:02] <Seventh-NIXing> Okay, will do. Gimme a minute...
[07:02] <stpere> Vity, man is the command for manual
[07:02] <Seb> sup yall
[07:02] <Seb> so ubuntu has gnome as a default desktop
[07:03] <Seb> can I have kde after i install, or do i need kubuntu for that /
[07:03] <stpere> Seb, install the kubuntu-desktop package
[07:03] <mike-w> how do i install a gdm theme?
[07:04] <lemac> how do i set properly my sound blaster x-fi on ubuntu? i just that is unsupported
[07:04] <nalioth> Seb: install 'kubuntu-desktop' after you install ubuntu
[07:04] <Vity> can i chmod folders?
[07:04] <AMDXP> hi there
[07:04] <Xenguy> Vity: yes
[07:04] <JoeBlow> how can i put a file in a folder that i do not have premission to copy to?
[07:04] <nalioth> vity you can chmod anything, but don't cry when your system stops.
[07:04] <AMDXP> anyone use FreeNX on Breezy
[07:04] <Misnix-afk> Vity, man man, then man chmod and chown
[07:05] <Seb> nalioth, stpere: thank you guys
[07:05] <Vity> can someone tell me the syntax of chmodding cos i dont understand
[07:05] <Xenguy> Vity: what do you want to chmod, and why?
[07:05] <nalioth> Vity: we are not here to hold your hand, you've been given all the info you need to perform what you ask
[07:05] <Misnix-afk> vity run 'man chmod'
[07:05] <Vity> lib folder
[07:06] <Vity> because it says i am not allowed to extract
[07:06] <nalioth> Vity: plus warnings about screwing up your system
[07:06] <Vity> i got that!!!
[07:06] <Ng> JoeBlow: sudo cp /path/tosome/file /folder/to/put/it/in/
[07:06] <Xenguy> Vity: nalioth knows what he's talking about
[07:06] <Vity> i am running off live cd
[07:06] <stpere> Vity, extract with the sudo command prefixed
[07:07] <JoeBlow> Ng, sounds like a good idea
[07:07] <stpere> Vity, you don't have to change permissions to lib for that
[07:07] <Seb> now, i'd like some kind of net install like Debian, meaning i want to download the bare minimun and burn it to a cd, then install the rest from the net. Where do I get started with that ?
[07:07] <Ghoatman> do I need to download the new KDE binary updates if I use Gnome?
[07:07] <Xenguy> Seb: there's a 'server install' option somewhere
[07:07] <Vity> stpere how do i do that?
[07:08] <Seb> Xenguy: ?
[07:08] <stpere> Vity, sudo tar xvzf ...
[07:08] <Xenguy> Seb: oh, I think I misread your question
[07:08] <mike-w> how do i install a gdm theme?
[07:08] <Vity> ok
[07:08] <AMDXP> are there any other applications that i can use to ssh into another ubuntu box and see a graphical display of that box?
[07:08] <Seb> Xenguy: i think so :)
[07:08] <nalioth> Ghoatman: no you do not, install "kubuntu-desktop"
[07:08] <chmod775> !thunderbird
[07:08] <ubotu> it has been said that thunderbird is a FOSS email client, capable of close cooperation with Firefox, both by the Mozilla Foundation.  To make your thunderbird links open in firefox, see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=60427
[07:08] <nalioth> AMDXP: ask google about "x forwarding ssh"
[07:08] <Ghoatman> nalioth: ok thanks
[07:08] <chmod775> !thunderbird1.5
[07:08] <ubotu> thunderbird1.5 is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ThunderbirdNewVersion
[07:09] <AMDXP> nalioth: thanks because i tried to install FreeNX and failed miserably
[07:09] <Vity> stpere what does tar xvzf mean?
[07:09] <chmod775> what's FReebx
[07:09] <nalioth> Vity: man tar
[07:09] <graft> nalioth: i think he wants something like VNC
[07:09] <stpere> Vity, x=extract v=verbose z=decompress f=file
[07:09] <AMDXP> FreeNX is like VNC
[07:10] <nalioth> graft: x forwarding will work fine on *nix systems
[07:10] <chmod775> k
[07:10] <Xenguy> chmod775: only faster
[07:10] <graft> yeah, but x forwarding != VNC
[07:10] <graft> it doesn't let you see a desktop
[07:10] <AMDXP> but i just want to be able to get a graphical interface
[07:10] <nalioth> graft: it DOES
[07:10] <graft> urm... how so?
[07:11] <Xenguy> nalioth: I thought X forward just worked app by app (i.e. not the whole desktop)
[07:11] <nalioth> graft: you can xforward anything you like (or use NFS)
[07:11] <graft> yeah, of course you can
[07:11] <graft> but it's going to be ridiculously slow to forward, for example, KDE
[07:11] <graft> much better to use VNC
[07:11] <stpere> graft, I think it's meant to be used mainly on LAN
[07:11] <AMDXP> graft: this is my problem i have a ubuntu box without a monitor or keyboard on it running as a server and i want to be able to ssh into it and see the desktop
[07:12] <miki> awwww
[07:12] <graft> yeah... you want a VNC server running on that box
[07:12] <AMDXP> FreeNX is supposed to be like VNC but faster
[07:12] <Vity> stpere how can i copy and paste files to lib?
[07:12] <relbs_> Is there any way to disable the printer status icons that pop up in the system tray?  My CUPS server has about 100 printers, many of which are always active, so there are about 15 printer icons going crazy in my system tray...
[07:12] <miki> mount Floppy or mount dev/floppy gives me some crap about incorrect file system or none file sytem.. what should i do? reformat fdd?
[07:13] <stpere> Vity, sudo cp file_name /usr/lib
[07:13] <fOx_> Ayuda en espaol??
[07:13] <nalioth> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <fOx_> !es
[07:13] <fOx_> ayuda en espaol?
[07:13] <graft> don't bother, AMDXP... the repos has plenty of working VNC servers that are plenty fast over a LAN connection
[07:13] <_jason> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <nalioth> fOx_: marque /j #ubuntu-es por espanol
[07:13] <lemac> f0x_ this is an english speaking channel
[07:14] <AMDXP> graft but what if i need to connect from work across the net?
[07:14] <fOx_> Thank!
[07:14] <miki> ANYONE CAN HELP ME?
[07:14] <graft> erm... well, depends how good your line is
[07:14] <AMDXP> cable to cable
[07:14] <graft> that's going to suck no matter what, probably...
[07:15] <graft> cable has crappy upload speeds
[07:15] <Bader> I succeed into launching Xorg but xinit and gdm are both broken
[07:15] <graft> but VNC is reasonably low throughput... i'd try it and see
[07:15] <graft> you can try xtightvncviewer... might be better
[07:16] <nalioth> graft: he's talking about cat5+
[07:16] <AMDXP> graft i think i got it i can use vnc to install freenx
[07:16] <nalioth> graft: he said he wanted to run a headless box under his desk or something, iirc
[07:16] <graft> yeah, but now he wants to connect to it from work
[07:17] <miki> anyone can help me with my fdd problem?
[07:18] <alex___> where I can find a good manual about PHP?
[07:18] <_jason> php.net
[07:18] <Vity> is c++ compiler on live cd?
[07:18] <alex___> dosnt exist other place?
[07:18] <_jason> Vity: yes, install build-essential
[07:19] <Vity> where si that?
[07:19] <Vity> *is
[07:19] <Vity> is that on cd???
[07:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell Vity about synaptic
[07:19] <Vity> *live cd?
[07:19] <AMDXP> can i use Nomachine client to access VNC server?
[07:19] <Seb> so, n onet install images for ubuntu ?
[07:19] <Seb> no net
[07:20] <graft> AMDXP: no, they're different protocols
[07:20] <nalioth> Seb: no net images yet
[07:20] <Seb> nalioth: k, thanks
[07:20] <ekimus> hi, i'd like to do the following "if a ssh login fails $n times block the ip for $m hours" anyone knows a good approach to this?
[07:20] <AMDXP> ok so i have to install vncclient on this end
[07:20] <Pavix> What's the package name if I wanna apt-get samba
[07:20] <Vity> _jason where is build essential?
[07:20] <miki> anyone can help me with my fdd problem?
[07:20] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Pavix about samba
[07:21] <graft> AMDXP: why do you need to install vnc if you want to install freenx?
[07:21] <_jason> Vity: ubotu sent you a link, please read it
[07:21] <nalioth> Vity: read your private messages
[07:21] <Vity> i know!!
[07:21] <Vity> ive read it
[07:21] <Vity> nvm. had to search for it
[07:21] <Seb> if I get the live cd, can I install from it later on if I so choose ?
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: not at this time
[07:22] <Seb> nalioth: k
[07:22] <ekimus> Seb: nope, afaik the dvd image can do that...
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: there are plans for dapper or dapper +1 to have a combo live/install disk
[07:22] <AMDXP> graft i want to install vnc so i can get to see the desktop
[07:22] <Seb> nalioth: sounds good
[07:22] <graft> AMDXP: yeah but you just said you want to have freenx installed instead...
[07:22] <Vity> what is excluded on live cd that is there on the install cd?
[07:22] <AMDXP> then once i can see the desktop i can sudo gedit the files i need to get freenx running
[07:22] <nalioth> Seb: or as ekimus points out, you can grab the dvd image via torrent and have both
[07:23] <graft> why can't you just do that in the shell?
[07:23] <Pavix> Thanks nalioth
[07:23] <Alakazam> question, why does windows xp run better under linux & vmware... than it does alone?
[07:23] <AMDXP> because i am not that good yet
[07:23] <Nivko> Hi, can somone help me? When i go to my phpmyadmin dir he says Forbidden (I think maybe know sombody this:p)
[07:23] <graft> you don't know how to edit a file?
[07:23] <AMDXP> i can edit a file
[07:23] <Seb> nalioth: but it's bigger, and my bandwith is limited. I'll stick with a regular cd for now, my friend already has a partition, so I'll hold off on showing him how cool a live cd is ;)
[07:23] <ekimus> Vity: with ubuntu you install software from the repositories which are online so there's pretty much you can install that is not on the live cd
[07:24] <Vity> why are there 2 cd's then????
[07:24] <Alakazam> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3842331/?GT1=7538 <----great potential background pic
[07:24] <Vity> one for installing and one live cd
[07:24] <BrickMaker> why i can't view webcam on kopete
[07:24] <Nivko> Hi, can somone help me? When i go to my phpmyadmin dir he says Forbidden (I think maybe know sombody this:p)
[07:24] <BrickMaker> i got kopete 4.3.4.3
[07:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Nivko about lamp
[07:25] <nalioth> Nivko: dont repeat so often, please. we are not ignoring you
[07:25] <Nivko> naloiotho
[07:25] <ekimus> Vity: to try ubuntu before touching something on your HD
[07:25] <Nivko> nalioth
[07:25] <Vity> ahh ok
[07:25] <Nivko> I'have apache with that tut
[07:25] <Nivko> and php and mysql, but when im using phpmyadmin
[07:25] <Nivko> he says Forbidden
[07:26] <Vity> how do i extract something into a usr folder???
[07:26] <Vity> it says i am not allowed
[07:26] <miki> when im trying to mount Floppy under ubuntu, it says bad file system..any help?
[07:26] <nalioth> Nivko: have you read that page ubotu sent a link to?
[07:26] <ekimus> Vity: usr doesn't mean user it means unix system resources, if you have to ask how to do that i'm pretty sure you don't need to extract any files in there
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> .....
[07:27] <Vity> i am installing some system files
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> wtf is this crap?
[07:27] <Nivko> nalioth: I SAD: I have installed the webserver and mysql and php with that page
[07:27] <picasso> where can i get a good sources.lst file (like here: http://www.ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories but some of those dont work when s/hoary/breezy/g)
[07:27] <Vity> well, a bit like dll files in windows
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> wb: Couldn't stat source package list http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/security.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy-security_main_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[07:27] <Seveas> picasso, ubutnuguide.org sucks
[07:27] <_jason> Shadowpillar: did you apt-get update?
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> yes
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about ubuntuguide
[07:27] <Seveas> picasso, try help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:27] <ekimus> Vity: dll files won't work under linux
[07:27] <simonvc> evening all, how do i boot into single user mode so i can fsck my root partition?
[07:27] <Shadowpillar> _jason: that's what's messing up
[07:27] <Vity> i know!!!
[07:27] <picasso> ok
[07:27] <Seveas> simonp, pick 'recovery mode' when booting
[07:28] <_jason> Shadowpillar: are there any gpg errors, someone had those yesterday
[07:28] <Vity> ekimus tell me how to install it to usr/lib
[07:28] <ekimus> Vity: so what are you trying to install? isn't it available in the repositories?
[07:28] <Vity> *extract
[07:28] <Shadowpillar> _jason: nope
[07:28] <g1m> hi there
[07:28] <simonvc> Sev, ah, easy.
[07:28] <transgress> is there anyway to make gnome save window size?
[07:29] <_jason> Shadowpillar: someone was saying security was really slow, how many times have you tried?
[07:29] <BrickMaker> whats kopete latest version
[07:29] <bobinabarn> When installing mythtv-backend I'm getting: Session management error: Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed
[07:29] <bobinabarn> any thoughts?
[07:29] <Vity> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[07:29] <ekimus> Vity: if you must use sudo, but you can find that info in the wiki too... (better learn about user and system resources before you do that)
[07:29] <picasso> is there w32codecs package for breezy
[07:29] <g1m> i want to back up a data cd with a copy protection.. can you suggest any programs to do that ?
[07:29] <nalioth> Vity: libsdl is in the repos. use synaptic
[07:29] <Seveas> Vity, use the ubuntu packages....
[07:29] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about w32codecs
[07:29] <Vity> it says it cannot find sdl version
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !tell kopete
[07:30] <joeljkp> anyone know of a web forum that lets you rate individual posts?
[07:30] <nalioth> Vity: search in synaptic for libsdl
[07:30] <ekimus> Vity: what command says that?
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !tell BrickMaker kopete
[07:30] <graft> joeljkp: huh? you mean like software?
[07:30] <Vity> when i try to run this program
[07:30] <Vity> i'll search for it
[07:30] <ekimus> Vity: what program?
[07:30] <BrickMaker> !kopete
[07:30] <ubotu> Kopete is the KDE IM, supporting AIM, ICQ, MSN, Yahoo, Jabber, IRC, Gadu-Gadu, Novell GroupWise Messenger, and more. See http://kopete.kde.org
[07:30] <Vity> http://www.libsdl.org/download-1.2.php
[07:30] <testoclone> ciao a tutti
[07:31] <Vity> http://www.erikyyy.de/tempest/
[07:31] <Vity> sorry
[07:31] <nalioth> Vity: are you trying to run it or compile it?
[07:31] <Nivko> ss/server
[07:31] <Vity> run it
[07:31] <nalioth> Vity: there are many libsdl files in synaptic
[07:31] <testoclone> chi mi saprebbe dire un buon lettore dvd
[07:31] <Seveas> testoclone, english please
[07:32] <Vity> ok. 3 versions lol
[07:32] <nalioth> !it
[07:32] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[07:32] <BrickMaker> how can i get the latest Kopete
[07:32] <saif> hello, where do i find the setting to have the laptop hibernate when the battery is %5? i am using breezy with the ubuntu power managment applet thing, i think it uses powernowd, the hibernate from the logogg menu hibernate but doesn't wake up correctly, but i think passed upon such a thing on google, my problem is setting the battery percentage hibernate
[07:32] <Vity> what does debian oss mean???
[07:32] <antisocial_boris> hi, im just sorting out my new external hard drive, partitioning it and whatnot. if you wanted to try out a new distro how much free space would you leave?
[07:33] <Seveas> antisocial_boris, 5gb
[07:33] <graft> antisocial_boris: depends how many mp3s you have
[07:33] <BrickMaker> tell me about how to get Latest Kopete
[07:33] <Seveas> so you can instal a lot :)
[07:33] <ekimus> Vity: debian ist the distribution ubuntu is based on, oss == open source software
[07:33] <Shadowpillar> kopete pisses me off
[07:33] <Seveas> BrickMaker: please stop repeating the same question. If someone knows, (s)he will answer. You can try posting on the mailing list too.
[07:33] <picasso> w32codecs not loading (tinyurl down?) can someone point me in the right direction?
[07:33] <Vity> ok
[07:33] <picasso> i'm not seeing w32codecs package
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell picasso about restricted
[07:33] <Vity> it still says cannot fins the right version
[07:33] <Seveas> picasso, seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/extras
[07:34] <BrickMaker> Seveas, ok!
[07:34] <gnu2it2> what is needed to reassymble a bunch of #.rar files? i think i should end up with a .iso image
[07:34] <Vity> *SDL version  not found!
[07:34] <picasso> seveas: is that for sources.list ?
[07:34] <Seveas> picasso, no
[07:34] <antisocial_boris> if i install a new distro i can make it use my current /home partition and swap partition right? so i'd only need a root partition for it?
[07:34] <graft> gnu2it2: get the 'rar' utility
[07:34] <picasso> not sure what i do w/ that then
[07:34] <Seveas> picasso, deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas extras
[07:34] <nalioth> gnu2it2: unrar-nonfree
[07:34] <seashell11> is there a qtparted or gparted for the 64 bit edition of ubuntu?
[07:35] <nalioth> picasso: read your private messages
[07:35] <Seveas> picasso, you can visit that first url and manually download the deb or add that what I gave later to sources.list :)
[07:35] <picasso> !freeformats
[07:35] <ubotu> well, freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[07:35] <JoeBlow> is their a way to just upgrade ubuntu to kubuntu?
[07:35] <Shadowpillar> seashell11: you could always try searching for the package
[07:35] <Seveas> JoeBlow, that's no upgrade
[07:35] <Seveas> JoeBlow, apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> JoeBlow: yeah
[07:36] <Vity> can i downgrade any of the packages???
[07:36] <tristan_> Seveas : I made sudo apt-get install kde : what would be the difference?
[07:36] <saif> can i change my fat partition to ext3 without loosing data?
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> shame xubuntu doesn't come as its own cd distribution
[07:36] <tristan_> Seveas : I have now both gnome and kde on my machine
[07:36] <JoeBlow> Seveas, is it just gonna be different graphically, and can i switch back?
[07:36] <Shadowpillar> Vity: why?
[07:36] <saif> ????
[07:36] <picasso> breezy-seveas complaining about GPG public key
[07:36] <gaz> saif, i would say no, because it needs to be formatted unless you copy the data across to another partition
[07:37] <Seveas> Shadowline, it will
[07:37] <saif> what the hell!! how many ubuntus are there, ok kubuntu i figured out, kde, but xubuntu?
[07:37] <Seveas> picasso, visit http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl for instruction
[07:37] <Vity> because this program i am using is using sdl version 1.0, while i have 1.2 at the moment
[07:37] <saif> gaz, thanx! :)
[07:37] <robotgeek> saif: xfce + ubuntu, very nice.
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> yanno what's funny about that free formats page?
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> it doesn't apply to anything
[07:37] <nalioth> saif: you cannot.
[07:37] <AMDXP> thanks guys
[07:37] <Shadowpillar> it doesn't matter when most of the content on the web is in avi or wmv format
[07:37] <Seveas> JoeBlow, twie yes
[07:37] <Seveas> twice*
[07:38] <picasso> roger
[07:38] <picasso> hrm, now getting Failed to fetch http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/pool/extras/w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb  403 Forbidden
[07:38] <saif> not much of a linux geek donno xfce, when i first downloaded ubuntu warty, i downloaded kde, and i tried it, can i do the same with xfce? from the ubuntu repos?
[07:38] <picasso> doh
[07:38] <picasso> use different mirror?
[07:38] <Shadowpillar> and to convert to theora (I dont know of many apps that will do this) you need to get w32codecs anyway so you can read and decode the files
[07:38] <Vity> Shadowpillar: because this program i am using is using sdl version 1.0, while i have 1.2 at the momen
[07:38] <JoeBlow> Seveas, ok once i install it, how do i turn it on
[07:38] <tristan_> What would be the difference between apt-get install kde and apt-get install kubuntu-desktop?
[07:38] <Seveas> picasso, eh wtd?
[07:38] <Seveas> hmm
[07:38] <ubunTux> greetings to everyone
[07:39] <Shadowpillar> Vity: shouldnt be an issue
[07:39] <Shadowpillar> Vity: what happens when you try to run it?
[07:39] <maxine> could anyone tell me how to save my bookmarks in ubuntu as not to lose them when i do a clean install
[07:39] <nalioth> picasso: did you read your private messages?
[07:39] <soundray> tristan, they are both metapackages. Compare them with 'apt-cache depends'
[07:39] <picasso> nalioth, tinyurl not loading for me.
[07:39] <nalioth> picasso: its not a tinyurl
[07:39] <Vity> Shadowpillar: *** The sdl-config script installed by SDL could not be found*** If SDL was installed in PREFIX, make sure PREFIX/bin is in*** your path, or set the SDL_CONFIG environment variable to the*** full path to sdl-config.configure: error: *** SDL version  not found!
[07:39] <ubunTux> anyone here i could ask about medical transcriptions in linux?
[07:39] <kie> Evening all, just thought i'd add my first comment on my first ubuntu machine :)
[07:40] <robotgeek> Vity: libsdl-dev or similiar
[07:40] <picasso> so just download and install the deb insteazd of apt-get it?
[07:40] <picasso> is that your suggestion
[07:40] <soundray> ubunTux, what's the question?
[07:40] <Vity> yay!!! nvm fixed it
[07:40] <Vity> thanx everyone
[07:40] <nalioth> picasso: if you go to the restricted formats wiki page there are DIRECT DOWNLOADS of the files you seek
[07:40] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: The following tar errors were detected:
[07:40] <giorgos> \c
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:40] <giorgos> /bin/tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[07:40] <picasso> yeah, i see. i'll use that, thanks.
[07:40] <nalioth> picasso: idk what the heck you're getting tinyURLs from
[07:40] <tristan_> OK, so if you have alreday gnome and want to keep it you should do pat-get install kde and if you just want kde and not gnome you should do apt-get install kubuntu-desktop, if I undertsand well
[07:41] <robotgeek> giorgos, don't paste in here. Please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:41] <saif> is there anyway to run both gnome and xfce?
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Vity: Makefile editing time :)
[07:41] <ubunTux> soundray, i have a friend who's into medical transcription business
[07:41] <picasso> nalioth, w32codecs help msg
[07:41] <tristan_> saif : certainly. I run kde and gnome so I think it is possible to have both gnome and xfce
[07:41] <picasso> as opposed to restrictedformats msg
[07:41] <nalioth> picasso: if you've read all your priv msgs .. .. ..
[07:41] <Vity> shadowpillar: do you know what does "start x11" mean?
[07:41] <giorgos> sorry
[07:41] <picasso> i have. i'm dl the .deb. thanks
[07:41] <soundray> tristan_, no, you can have both gnome-desktop and kubuntu-desktop
[07:41] <ubunTux> soundray, and off course they are using windows platforms
[07:41] <Shadowpillar> Vity: find where it specifies 1.0 and change it to 1.2
[07:42] <Vity> nvm that!!!
[07:42] <maxine> could anyone tell me where to find the folder that stores bookmarks in ubuntu
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> Vity: starting the pretty gui you use now
[07:42] <Shadowpillar> the underlying layer
[07:42] <nalioth> maxine: for which client? there are as many folders as there are browsers
[07:42] <antisocial_boris> can someone give me some help with my partitioning and formatting of a new hard drive?
[07:42] <ubunTux> soundray, and since license is costly.... i was about to suggest that he should try and migrate to linux
[07:42] <soundray> maxine, it's probably best if you back up your entire /home directory.
[07:42] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7413
[07:42] <tristan_> soundray : but if you have allready install gnome, some part of kde-desktop is already in your gnome-desktop (like openoffice...) so install kde seems good
[07:42] <nalioth> antisocial_boris: if you ask a question
[07:42] <Vity> hmm. it says i need to start x11
[07:42] <maxine> for firefox
[07:43] <robotgeek> maxine: .mozilla/firefox/<profile>/
[07:43] <tristan_> maxine : you can export your firefox bookmarks
[07:43] <maxine> but i can't find the folder in my home dir
[07:43] <ubunTux> soundray, the problem is, i don't know of any softwares he could use in linux for his business
[07:43] <nalioth> maxine: in your ~/.mozilla-firefox directory
[07:43] <saif> tristan_  well, with kde it's easy, there is a package that contains all the stuff u need for kde, but i couldn't find such a thing for ubuntu in the repos i found!
[07:43] <nalioth> maxine: it's an invisible folder
[07:43] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:43] <maxine> k thx
[07:43] <ekimus> Vity: i'd really recommend you to read _basic_ documentation about how linux works a good starting point is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FrontPage
[07:43] <antisocial_boris> i just partitioned my hard drive and tried mkds.ext3 /dev/sdb1 but got an error because its apparently mounted
[07:43] <tristan_> saif : well, to get kde after installing gnome I just type sudo apt-get install kde and it worked....
[07:44] <Vity> how do i start something??
[07:44] <giorgos> i don't think it's a tar problem cos it seems to work fine
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: do you know of something or some software for medical transcription business that can be used under linux
[07:44] <Vity> except commandlibe
[07:44] <soundray> ubunTux, what software is he using in Windows?
[07:44] <Vity> *commandline
[07:44] <nalioth> tristan_: saif: you get better results with 'kubuntu-desktop'
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: i was about to suggest Ubuntu to hime
[07:44] <antisocial_boris> why is it mounted already?
[07:44] <tristan_> nalioth : OK
[07:44] <Shadowpillar> antisocial_boris: is that your root partition
[07:44] <ubunTux> soundray: if i'm not mistaken he's using Transcription Buddy
[07:44] <antisocial_boris> no, its a partition on my new external hard drive
[07:44] <saif> tristan_,  yes, but there is no xfce package, nalioth, i need xfce not kde! :) don't fancy kde that much, never heard of xfce before
[07:45] <antisocial_boris> i just made it
[07:45] <ubunTux> soundray: for the audio files to transcribe
[07:45] <trojaavr> Could anyone explain the major differences between KDE and Gnome?
[07:45] <ekimus> Vity: another page to start with is help.ubuntu.com (will tell you a lot about how things work)
[07:45] <mike-e> anyone try enlightenment 17 beta on ubuntu yet?
[07:45] <soundray> ubunTux, I see, so he's mainly typing up dictations?
[07:45] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder?
[07:45] <ubunTux> soundray: yes
[07:46] <tristan_> saif : use synaptic and look for xfce you should find it
[07:46] <ubunTux> soundray: they are also using foot pedals for controlling the audio player
[07:46] <Vity> how do i start a certain program tho???
[07:46] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> mike-e: latest or just in general?
[07:46] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get error: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7413
[07:46] <mike-e> Shadowpillar, the latest
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> I wasnt too impressed with it, sure, it's shiny and pretty, but it isnt all that practical imho
[07:46] <ekimus> trojaavr: are you trying to start a holy war? :) to me the main difference is that theres more k* software available i use and i think kde applications are better integrated into the desktop than in gnome (but that's just my personal opinion)
[07:46] <LoPMX> does anyone know how to fix the problem witmy mysql (/var/run/mysqld) permissions being set wrong every time the machine reboots?
[07:46] <Blippe> saif xubuntu
[07:46] <Shadowpillar> oh, havent tried the latest
[07:47] <ubunTux> soundray: i've seen some speech recognition projects for medical transcriptions but don't knoe much about it... :-(
[07:47] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder?
[07:47] <ekimus> LoPMX: wrong in which way?
[07:47] <saif> tristan_,  ok, xfce4? i can't find an xfce-desktop
[07:47] <soundray> ubunTux, I'm not aware of any specific Linux software that enables transcription, but there are a number of medical-practice related projects out there.
[07:48] <saif> Blippe, i just need to install xfce, i have a perfectly ( almost ) running ubuntu (gnome)
[07:48] <ubunTux> soundray: mostly ERM's :-(
[07:48] <robotgeek> ubunTux: i think there is one called vista
[07:48] <Vity> how do i find out which prgrams i have installed and how to launch them?
[07:48] <tristan_> saif : I don't think there is xfce desktop. Read what the description says
[07:48] <ubunTux> robotgeek: i believe it's also an ERM right
[07:48] <ekimus> Vity: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html
[07:48] <saif> tristan_, allrighty! thanx!
[07:49] <LoPMX> ekimus, the dir owner is being set to root.mysql everytime i reboot
[07:49] <saif> exit
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek, soundray: i don't even have any idea what an ERM does :D
[07:49] <trappist> Vity: dpkg -l to answer the first question. dpkg -L pkgname | grep bin/ will get you started on the second.
[07:49] <robotgeek> ubunTux: no clue, i read about it long time ago. i too have no clue what an ERM is
[07:49] <LoPMX> so it means that after rebooting i can't use any mysql clients, i have to manually chown mysql.mysql for /var/run/mysql and chmod it 755
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek, soundray: pardon me. but i really don't know much about this business also
[07:49] <trappist> LoPMX: how did you install mysql? it works perfectly here.
[07:49] <ubunTux> robotgeek: thanks anyway
[07:50] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig + syslog tail: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7414
[07:50] <robotgeek> ubunTux: no problem
[07:50] <ekimus> LoPMX: why not try to chmod it to 775? so that the group can actually use it?
[07:50] <seashell11> would this work with ubuntu http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_Dual_Boot_from_Windows_Bootloader_(NTLDR)_and_why
[07:50] <soundray> ubuntux, electronic record management seems to me to wide a remit for what your friend is looking for.
[07:50] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: what about route -n
[07:50] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: and what's the ip of your gateway
[07:50] <Shadowpillar> seashell11: is it for grub or lilo?
[07:51] <seashell11> grub
[07:51] <Vity> wow
[07:51] <soundray> ubunTux, I also think it might be hard to make a business case for moving away from Windows, especially if the software investments are already in place.
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> k
[07:51] <LoPMX> ekimus, but i have to do it EVERY TIME I REBOOT
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> prolly will
[07:51] <LoPMX> trappist, i upgraded to mysql 5.0 using synaptic
[07:51] <seashell11> grub can't boot to windows since windows is set up with raid
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> I gotta grab that stuff to read so I can put ubuntu on a friend's compy
[07:51] <trappist> LoPMX: what's your source for 5.0? afaik it's not official
[07:51] <Shadowpillar> so when the inevitable happens (aka, XP explodes) there will be linux
[07:51] <Seventh-NIXing> 192.168.2.1, trappist.
[07:51] <ekimus> LoPMX: you could always add those commands to the script in /etc/init.d/ that start up mysql
[07:51] <Seventh-NIXing> Lemme just route -n...
[07:52] <ubunTux> soundray: ic... so do you think there are no software available for such business type in linux?
[07:52] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: heh, your default route is totally invalid: 1982.168.2.1
[07:52] <tristan_> Where is the splash screen folder? I want to modify my splash screen
[07:52] <Vity> trappist: thanks for that, but how do i start any of those?
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> I might have mis-typed it... most of that isn't copy-pasted.
[07:52] <aspuru> I am trying to install Ubuntu on a friend's laptop, for the first time after about 10 installations, I can't resize the NTFS partition because after defragmenting it still has files spread all over the disk
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> Only the tail is.
[07:52] <LoPMX> trappist, im using dapper
[07:52] <Seventh-NIXing> The rest, I was typing blindly on one keyboard while my only monitor was switched to m'Ubuntu box.
[07:52] <trappist> Vity: the answer is different for each package.  I told you where to start a minute ago.
[07:53] <LoPMX> ekimus, hmmm
[07:53] <LoPMX> ekimus, but it should not happer at all
[07:53] <aspuru> What can one do about this? I 1) defragment 2) use the live cd with gparted but gparted fails because the disk is not really compressed to the beginning of the partition
[07:53] <trappist> LoPMX: dapper's unsupported.  sounds to me like a bug that should be filed, if it hasn't already
[07:53] <LoPMX> trappist, i have already filled it
[07:53] <soundray> ubunTux, no, I wouldn't say that. I'd search on the web, which you're obviously done.
[07:53] <Seventh-NIXing> Yeah, the default is 192.168.2.1, trappist.
[07:53] <aspuru> does anybody know what to do in this situation?
[07:53] <Vity> trappist: i understand, but how do i know which file to click to launch the app?
[07:53] <nalioth> aspuru: boot into windows and run scandisk or chkdisk
[07:54] <ekimus> LoPMX: maybe any updates you missed? i'm not using mysql sorry, i stick with postgres
[07:54] <antisocial_boris> i just sucessfully reformatted and mounted one partition(/dev/sdb1) on my new ext hard drive, but when i try to mkfs.ext3 /dev/sdb2 it claims it doesnt exist. what's going on?
[07:54] <soundray> ubunTux, what's the specific reason he wants to (or you want him to) abandon Windows?
[07:54] <aspuru> nalioth: scandisk on xp?
[07:54] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: read it again
[07:54] <ubunTux> soundray: yeah... web is such a big help as i always use before asking... but i haven't had much luck on searching
[07:54] <shaun680> hi, can anyone help me geting my wireless card working please?
[07:54] <nalioth> aspuru: i mentioned two programs (i have never run XP)
[07:54] <robotgeek> shaun680, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:54] <nalioth> ubotu: tell shaun680 about wireless
[07:55] <talisein> Did anyone else get a "can't be authenticated" error on today's Breezy update?
[07:55] <ubunTux> soundray, well i was the one who suggested him to migrate to linux to be cost-effective
[07:55] <TSWoodV> Greetings!
[07:55] <kraftwerk> how do I change the screen resolution in gnome? (from the command line)
[07:55] <aspuru> ubotu: tell aspuru about partitioning
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> Here's the route -n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416.
[07:55] <ubunTux> soundray, we all know that windows license hurt specially if you're on a start-up business
[07:55] <TSWoodV> How do you define which network location under "network settings" is the default one?
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> I checked ip ro again on the box.
[07:55] <ompaul> aspuru, change the splash screen and replace it with something saying vista and give them ubuntu :-)
[07:55] <Vity> can someone tell me how to start x11?
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> It's 192.168.2.1 really, just typo-d.
[07:55] <Seventh-NIXing> startx should do it.
[07:56] <aspuru> ompaul: this guy needs dual boot
[07:56] <ubunTux> soundray, aside from the OS, you also need to get licenses for office applications
[07:56] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: what does route -n say.
[07:56] <aspuru> but the freaking "defragmenter" does not put the files at hte beginning of hte partition as it should
[07:56] <Seventh-NIXing> Just appended it to http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416.
[07:56] <soundray> ubunTux, without having assessed the case thoroughly, I'd say that cost savings alone will not justify the transition.
[07:56] <ompaul> aspuru, I was being funny :-)
[07:56] <kraftwerk> no really how do I change the resolution from the command line? gnome is kind of broken over here:/
[07:56] <aspuru> ok ompaul
[07:56] <soundray> ubunTux, you'd have to have a more compelling reason, like wanting to escape vendor lock-in.
[07:56] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kraftwerk about fixres
[07:57] <ekimus> kraftwerk: edit xorg.conf and restart x
[07:57] <kraftwerk> already did that, nvidia drivers didn't work but now gnome freaks out
[07:57] <kraftwerk> all I've got right now is the failsafe commandline
[07:57] <mike-w> After I cvs something how do i implement it? in this case it's enlightenment 17 beta
[07:57] <ubunTux> soundray: you got a point. well i was also planning on suggesting or implementing (just in case) LTSP on his workstations
[07:57] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: oh, I'm seeing that netdev watchdog thing.  if you bring the device down and back up, does it work for a while?
[07:58] <soundray> ubunTux, to save costs on office software, I'd suggest moving to OpenOffice first.
[07:58] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell mike-w about compile
[07:58] <mike-e> it told me nothing
[07:58] <mike-e> !compile
[07:58] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[07:58] <nalioth> mike-e: follow the instructions at get-e.org
[07:58] <soundray> ubunTux, I'm not sure that LTSP supports the audio transfer capability that you would need for medical transcription.
[07:58] <Vity> how do i start a certain package for example x11
[07:58] <ubunTux> soundray, one more thing he's worried about is Spywares/viruses/etc on windows
[07:58] <giorgos> plz help trying to install a program and get the following error: /bin/tar: -b1: Not found in archive
[07:58] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: you'll have to remind me how to do that :) I don't think so though.
[07:59] <Seventh-NIXing> Maybe you got the arguments confused?
[07:59] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: sudo ifdown eth0 && sudo ifup eth0
[07:59] <nalioth> mike-e: i have an easier way, tho.  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=79155&highlight=enlightenment
[07:59] <giorgos> any ideas?
[07:59] <Vity> how do i start a certain package for example x11
[07:59] <ompaul> ubunTux, not having to reinstall, not paying a random sum of money to run the latest version having held off onthe upgrade for as long as possible to get greeted with a "rent an O/S" having to buy additional software like av/firewalls because you bought something that was as open as a merc clk 500 with no locks on it and the key in the ignition with a full fuel tank so then stay as you are
[07:59] <Vity> i dont want to start from commandline tho
[07:59] <ekimus> Vity: i gave you 2 links did you actually read them?
[07:59] <TSWoodV> How do you designate a default network location under network settings?
[07:59] <trappist> Vity: X11 is already running unless you're looking at a blank console login screen
[07:59] <giorgos> anuyone who could help?
[08:00] <Vity> i did read them. they are installed
[08:00] <ompaul> !tell giorgos about ask
[08:00] <trappist> giorgos: you get that when you do what.
[08:00] <giorgos> huh?
[08:00] <ubunTux> soundray, basically, what they do is, download the audio files then each and every MT's he have working for him will play it and transcribe/type it on MS Word
[08:00] <giorgos> trappist, didn't understand
[08:00] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: no joy.
[08:00] <trappist> giorgos: what do you do to get that error.
[08:01] <mike-e> that didn't help
[08:01] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: anything interesting in the last few lines of the output of `dmesg`?
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, trying to install a program
[08:01] <Vity> what is the actual name for x11?
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, running a setup.sh
[08:01] <soundray> ubunTux, so when you equip each MT (?) with a thin client, how will they listen to the audio files?
[08:01] <trappist> giorgos: please try to be specific.
[08:01] <giorgos> trappist, ok:
[08:01] <miki> i need some help with floppy in ubuntu, anyone can help me?
[08:01] <pixelfairy> anyone know the H/V sync for a 1024x768 laptop screen?
[08:02] <pixelfairy> this thing keeps going in 800x600
[08:02] <trappist> pixelfairy: it's different for each screen
[08:02] <ekimus> Vity: do you have a graphical user interface? if so x11 (xorg) is already running
[08:02] <giorgos> trappist, i run a setup.sh and it asks installation directory, i put a desired one and then get that error
[08:02] <Vity> ekimus: it just says i need to start it and configure some stuff on it
[08:02] <ubunTux> soundray, i was thinking that he should also have a file server where the audio files are stored to make it centralized and is accessible to all MTs
[08:02] <trappist> giorgos: installation script for what
[08:02] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: that just tail /etc/var/syslog? Only different things I see are "eth0 no IPv6 routers" and a couple of "restarting configuration" messages where I did the down/up.
[08:02] <ekimus> Vity: the actual name for x11 is x11, it is just a protocol, the implementation ubuntu uses is called xorg
[08:03] <Vity> ok thank you very much
[08:03] <mike-e> nalioth, this is the first time i've cvs'd something, how can I implement enlightenment now that the cvs has finished it's fetching?
[08:03] <trappist> Seventh-NIXing: no, it's not the same, but a lot of the messages will be in both
[08:03] <giorgos> trappist, to install a program
[08:03] <trappist> giorgos: I give up.
[08:03] <Vity> ekimus: it does not recognise x11 or xorg
[08:03] <ubunTux> soundray, one more problem he encounters is there are times that a file is being downloaded twice or even more
[08:03] <giorgos> trappist, nice way to treat a nob
[08:03] <ompaul> miki, are you using kubuntu or ubuntu?
[08:03] <miki> ubuntu
[08:03] <ubunTux> soundray, on each PC
[08:04] <mike-e> ompaul, me?
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: you have to build the software you've fetched using cvs
[08:04] <trappist> giorgos: installation scripts are for installing programs.  I asked you to be specific.  I can't help you.
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: did you get the link i showed you?
[08:04] <ompaul> mike-e, no
[08:04] <TSWoodV> Anyone else here use network locations?  If so, how do you get them to work properly?
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, yessir
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, i guess i don't understand what a cvs is
[08:04] <soundray> ubunTux, to solve that, you need a fileserver to which every workstation has access.
[08:04] <mike-e> nalioth, so it downloads the depended packages/files, then I have to build it?
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: a cvs is a versioning system. it keeps track of the very latest source code.
[08:04] <soundray> ubunTux, not thin clients.
[08:04] <giorgos> trappist, i'm trying to... u don't help me be specif i can't imagine what's the info u r looking for
[08:04] <trappist> mike-e: installing e17 is a pretty involved process.  you're going to need to read a lot of docs to have any hope of success.
[08:04] <TSWoodV> I've defined three different locations.  I want one of them set as the default location.  I can't figure out how to do that.
[08:04] <nalioth> mike-e: try my link to the forums first
[08:05] <ubunTux> soundray, and if migrating to linux won't suite him... well probably i would like to help him on his LAN setup
[08:05] <trappist> giorgos: I want to know what you're trying to install.
[08:05] <Vity> ekimus:what is x11??? is that like the actual gui?
[08:05] <TSWoodV> SuSE has this feature and it works.  Fedora Core more or less works too.
[08:05] <mike-e> so i should just wait until it's officially released so i don't break my box again
[08:05] <Seventh-NIXing> trappist: seems to be just the same as that tail network-wise. Last non-syslog-repeat messages seem to be a few when I removed my pendrive.
[08:05] <trappist> Vity: X11 is a protocol.  xorg is the software that implements it, and it's what drives your gui.
[08:05] <ubunTux> soundray, oh! yes, i thought of that one first. LTSP just came to my mind to cut cost on hardware also
[08:05] <Seventh-NIXing> Vity: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X11
[08:05] <ompaul> miki, if you type >> cat /etc/fstab << do you get a line that looks like this >> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[08:05] <ompaul> <<
[08:05] <nalioth> mike-e: if you follow my ubuntuforums link for e17, you won't harm anything
[08:06] <giorgos> trappist, now are tuned up i think, it's an electronic design software, sth like a CAD
[08:06] <antisocial_boris> can anyone tell my why one of my partitions isnt showing up in /dev?
[08:06] <mike-e> nalioth, ok i didn't see it
[08:06] <soundray> ubunTux, I don't know if migrating would suit him, and I'm not saying that it wouldn't. But no migration is better than a failed migration. If the motive is cost-savings and nothing else, your friend may well be disappointed.
[08:06] <nalioth> mike-e: now you will...in a PM
[08:06] <ubunTux> soundray, i understand...
[08:07] <soundray> ubunTux, Linux has many advantages, but you have to appreciate them before a migration will be successful.
[08:07] <trappist> giorgos: whatever is going wrong is a problem with the setup script (apparently).  there's nothing more I can tell you withing knowing what software it is so I can peek at the setup script, and I've lost interest in beating that information out of you.
[08:07] <ubunTux> soundray, ic. well, how about this...
[08:07] <poimen> how do I install blackdown java for ubuntu 64
[08:07] <poimen> ??
[08:07] <poimen> someone kwons ?
[08:07] <miki> ompaul: omw to test it brb
[08:07] <nalioth> poimen: use synaptic
[08:07] <poimen> I enabled the responsitorys and nothing
[08:07] <poimen> :(
[08:07] <ompaul> ubunTux, and soundray can you take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:08] <nalioth> poimen: search for "jre"
[08:08] <giorgos> trappist, ok have fun
[08:08] <poimen> I searched by j2re1.4
[08:08] <MetaMorfoziS> hi all
[08:08] <soundray> ompaul, sure. Okay, ubuntux?
[08:09] <ubunTux> soundray: ok...
[08:09] <mike-e> nalioth, beautiful
[08:09] <mike-e> nalioth, how do you like e17?
[08:09] <Seventh-NIXing> Anyone gimme any advice on my networking problems? I'm connected to a degree (Ubuntu box MAC shows up on my router's DCHP clients page) but can't ping the gateway from the new box, or ping the new box from my Windows PC, on the same LAN. ip ad + ip ro + ifconfig + syslog tail + route -n: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7416
[08:09] <nalioth> mike-e: as you say... beautiful
[08:09] <mike-e> =)
[08:09] <poimen> nalioth no luck :(
[08:09] <MetaMorfoziS> I'm from hungary, and my english grammar is very shit, so i try to format my q:)
[08:09] <giorgos> trappist, wish everyone were as helpful as u
[08:09] <nalioth> poimen: grab it from packages.ubuntu.com
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> So i'm installed ubuntu 3-4 days ago, and i'm a newbie, but its work, and i think its a good os. But i want to configure grub
[08:10] <FarrisG> Why doies vino eat up so much CPU and react far more sluggishly than vnc-server?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> My prroblem is about config file, and the device setting
[08:10] <JoeBlow> ok, I tried KDE, its easier in some ways, but i like Gnome way better, back to the Gnome mobile batman!
[08:10] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, what do you want to configure it for?
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> i have two wincehsters, and i want to boot from the second
[08:10] <FarrisG> I'd like to find an alternative, but I just can't find away to create a VNC server attached to the console X session, other than vino-server
[08:10] <MetaMorfoziS> the hda with 2 partitions have the ubuntu
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and hdb with many partitions have the win.
[08:11] <trappist> giorgos: help me help you.  ask answerable questions.  be specific.  something like "I did _______ and ______ happened.  I read the ______ docs and tried ______ but it didn't help.  what am I doing wrong?"
[08:11] <trappist> oh nm
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> i tried : root		(hd1,5)
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> and root		(hdb,5)
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> but not works ...
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> the default is hd0
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> title		Ubuntu, kernel 2.6.12-10-386
[08:11] <MetaMorfoziS> root		(hd0,0)
[08:11] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, there should be a "chainloader" in there hang on a second
[08:12] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, do not paste in here
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't know what is chainloader
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> sorry
[08:12] <juliux> hi i need help with qmail under ubuntu
[08:12] <BrickMaker> any one experience with Kopete?
[08:12] <MetaMorfoziS> so comment the chainloader flag?
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> it have one: chainloader	+1
[08:13] <MetaMorfoziS> title, root, makeactive and chainloader
[08:13] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, it should point to the windows partition
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hd0 -> 5th
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[08:14] <MetaMorfoziS> hdb
[08:14] <jino> hi
[08:14] <jino> how can i install skype?
[08:14] <Perebron> abi chip ubuntu virmis
[08:14] <Perebron> nasil settircez
[08:14] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, paste it in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:14] <ompaul> !skype
[08:14] <ubotu> it has been said that skype is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[08:14] <bart__> What program do you guys reckon to use for downloading from newsgroups?
[08:15] <nalioth> bart__: use 'pan'
[08:15] <pestilence> bart__: pan, slrn, klibido
[08:15] <pestilence> depends on what you intend to do
[08:15] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7417
[08:16] <pestilence> bart__: klibido is nice for binaries
[08:16] <Katie^> whats libdvdcss?
[08:16] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, please give me several minutes to read and get back to you
[08:16] <MetaMorfoziS> okay, thank you
[08:16] <nalioth> Katie^: dvd decryption lib
[08:16] <Katie^> is that the reason my dvds wont play?
[08:17] <bart__> thank you pestilence! :)
[08:17] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, cat /boot/menu/grub.lst
[08:17] <Katie^> okies
[08:17] <Katie^> it's working
[08:17] <Katie^> thanks
[08:18] <[A] ndy80> hi
[08:18] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, that is what I wanted
[08:18] <MetaMorfoziS> nowhere this file
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> menu.lst
[08:19] <Alakazam> how do i install wlanctl-ng?
[08:19] <[A] ndy80> a strange thing. In these days, probably after a simple upgrade, both firefox and amule very often take 50-60% cpu and the whole system become very slow. Is anyone of you experiencing the same problem?
[08:19] <Vity> how do i install java sun on ubuntu?
[08:19] <MetaMorfoziS> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7418
[08:19] <mwe> !java
[08:19] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[08:19] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, >>cat /boot/grub/menu.lst<<  :-/ oops
[08:20] <JoeBlow> hey, im trying to run a link that does "wine /media/sda4/Quake2/quake2.exe" but it doesnt work properly, it starts the program but then crashes, if i run the same thing in terminal it works tho
[08:20] <MetaMorfoziS> ^^
[08:20] <Alakazam> Vity, check the web for "asy breezy"
[08:20] <Alakazam> easy breezy
[08:20] <Vity> what?
[08:20] <graft> JoeBlow: that's because wine sucks
[08:20] <Alakazam> Vity, check the web for "easy breezy"
[08:20] <Alakazam> w1n3 pwn5 j00
[08:21] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, when you boot, you get offered windows on the screen is that correct?
[08:21] <jordo23> Is it possible to install SWF with fantastico and have Joomla recognize it automatically?
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, its alist
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> ubuntu ... and win
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> but not boot
[08:21] <mikol> "cat /etc/fstab" gives me >> "/media/floppy auto r,user,noauto 0 0"
[08:21] <skbera> Hello everyone...
[08:21] <Seventh-NIXing> Hi.
[08:21] <MetaMorfoziS> tells variable of errors
[08:22] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, is that message from windows or grub?
[08:22] <skbera> I have a question. Is there any way to kill a process with "Disk sleep" status?
[08:22] <MetaMorfoziS> grub
[08:22] <trappist> skbera: you can try killing its parent process, but generally no
[08:22] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, is it possible that windows will only start if it is on hda?
[08:23] <trappist> ompaul: that's true of win9x
[08:23] <ompaul> trappist, do we know of xp?
[08:23] <trappist> ompaul: not true of xp
[08:23] <skbera> But its pppd process that hangs up frequently & its parent is init.
[08:23] <mobodo__> if I have a dual core cpu, it should appear as 2 cpus when I cat /proc/cpuinfo, right?
[08:23] <ompaul> trappist, ahh
[08:23] <pixelfairy> so this laptop, which will do 1024x768 on knoppix, refuses to in ubuntu, even when using the knoppix x config
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> no
[08:23] <trappist> skbera: doh
[08:23] <MetaMorfoziS> the xp is on the hdb
[08:24] <trappist> as long as xp *knows* it's on hdb - you can't just move it and expect it to work
[08:24] <pixelfairy> its stuck at 800x600 despite 1024 being the only res known
[08:25] <graft> trappist: err, why not?
[08:25] <graft> it should work no matter where it is
[08:25] <lightbright> hello
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: what is the way to i get the number of my second winchester? hdX ?
[08:26] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hdb1
[08:26] <lightbright> is there any way to permantely remove something from always showing in the update notifier as I dont need kernel 383, as I use kernel 686?
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: hd0 is the lin winchester, hda
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[08:26] <MetaMorfoziS> i try
[08:26] <skbera> Please help me. I ant to know how to kill a process with "Disk Sleep" status and as init its parent process, without restarting my PC.
[08:26] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hd0 hd1
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> and will be back about 2-3 minutes
[08:27] <lightbright> ompaul: hello
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> what?
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i tried hd1
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> it's not work.
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> i try hdb1
[08:27] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, hang on
[08:27] <skbera> Please help me. I want to know how to kill a process with "Disk Sleep" status and as init its parent process, without restarting my PC.
[08:27] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul:  okay.
[08:27] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, this may help  (hd1,0)
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> try?
[08:28] <lightbright> skbera: maybe try killall ?
[08:28] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, if you want
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> okay
[08:28] <MetaMorfoziS> thx i be back soon
[08:29] <skbera> lightbright: I have tried all the kill commands including killall.
[08:29] <lightbright> skbera: then I see no other alternative sorry
[08:29] <lightbright> skbera: is there any way to permantely remove something from always showing in the update notifier as I dont need kernel 383, as I use kernel 686?
[08:30] <lightbright> 386
[08:30] <kalp> wow...amazing..
[08:30] <einPaule> Hi everybody, Im trying to get OpenOffice Base to work, ive installed apache and mySQL, but dont know how to get ODBC working...
[08:31] <skbera> lightbright: Thank-u for ur help...
[08:31] <graft> einPaule, um... do you have some oracle server for lunix?
[08:31] <einPaule> nope
[08:31] <graft> do you have some Winblows box running ODBC?
[08:32] <gverig> Is there a way to configure Ubuntu to use all features of microsoft keyboards and trackballs (like all buttons and stuff)?
[08:32] <pestilence> gverig: yes, use xmodmap
[08:32] <mwe> einPaule: I use jdbc
[08:33] <pestilence> gverig: there are probably ways to do it through gnome too, i know you can do it in kde
[08:33] <gverig> pestilence: does xmodmap work for trackballs?
[08:33] <graft> einPaule: just use mySQL, what's wrong with that?
[08:33] <pestilence> gverig: hrmmm, don't know about that
[08:33] <graft> gverig: no, you have to fool with your Xorg config for that, i think...
[08:34] <gverig> pestilence: Are there standard layouts for ms keyboard?
[08:34] <graft> the 104-key keyboard should cover most MS keyboards
[08:34] <mortal5> hey guys, why doesn't glxgears spit anything out to console?
[08:34] <graft> mortal5: probably because everything is working ok?
[08:34] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: re, So the first reboot, it said: "Filesystem is unknown, partition type: 0x7 and...
[08:35] <pestilence> gverig: http://www.google.com/search?q=xmodmap+microsoft+keyboard
[08:35] <cookie__> l
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> and the next reboot, the win is tried to boot
[08:35] <gverig> graft: Well, it has some extra stuff, like 5 favorite programs, zoom handle, back/forward, etc.
[08:35] <gverig> pestilence: that's cheating ;)
[08:35] <mortal5> graft, well how am i supposed to benchmark my nvidia module without a fps printout?
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> (the grub set my bios's option of boot devices?
[08:35] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, and it did what?
[08:35] <pestilence> gverig: second link looks like gold
[08:35] <trappist> mortal5: it's changed.  it doesn't anymore.
[08:35] <MetaMorfoziS> so i' saw the bios first boot device is my xp winchester
[08:35] <graft> mortal5: oh... you want fps um...
[08:35] <mortal5> yeah lol
[08:36] <mortal5>  I want my old glxgears back lol
[08:36] <Cyphon> any ubuntu users with bind installed, I need your /etc/init.d/bind so I can replace mine so I can reinstall bind
[08:36] <graft> um... i think you just wait long enough?
[08:36] <MetaMorfoziS> the xp isn't boot because"missing ntldr, so its fucked, win need reisntall, not problem (i think the problem during the instal)
[08:36] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, grub talks to all drives, it is normally on the first disk, and then allows you to point to a partition that should boot if all is well
[08:36] <gverig> pestilence: yup, it does.
[08:36] <pestilence> Cyphon: why not just "touch /etc/init.d/bind"
[08:37] <pestilence> Cyphon: or for that matter, force the reinstall
[08:37] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, when that is done then you need this to recover
[08:37] <Cyphon> It needs the remove function in it
[08:37] <graft> argh... these ATI radeon drivers suck
[08:37] <ompaul> !ntfs
[08:37] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[08:37] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, sorry wrong one
[08:37] <ompaul> !grub
[08:37] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[08:37] <mortal5> this is stupid, why would ubuntu change the *only* 3d bench we have?
[08:37] <mwe> mortal5: glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[08:37] <Cyphon> I tried sudo apt-get install --reinstall bind
[08:37] <trappist> mortal5: it's not an ubuntu change
[08:37] <Cyphon> but it cries about missing remove function in /etc/init,d/bind
[08:37] <trappist> mortal5: and glxgears is pretty invalid as a benchmarking tool
[08:38] <graft> HOLY SHIT
[08:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul:  so impossible if i want grub all starts? (dontcare the last os)
[08:38] <graft> that is hilarious
[08:38] <MetaMorfoziS> ?
[08:38] <mwe> mortal5: try that and it prints the fps
[08:38] <peissard> hey
[08:38] <tobia> excuse me: were can I download the kernel sources for Ubuntu (Debian)??? thank zou
[08:38] <graft> nicely done, mwe
[08:38] <peissard> go to google.com
[08:38] <mwe> graft: it's true
[08:38] <peissard> and search for it
[08:38] <graft> yeah, i tried it
[08:38] <peissard> download ubuntu
[08:38] <peissard> gnome.com or something
[08:38] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, I have seen grub start with operating systems on different disks
[08:38] <trappist> mwe: that's awesome
[08:39] <pestilence> Cyphon: how about dpkg -i --force-overwrite (the deb in /var/cache/apt)
[08:39] <Cyphon> ok, ty 1 sec
[08:39] <mwe> trappist: if you don't like what it spits out, just make the windows really small and you'll get a nice fps ;)
[08:39] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, personally I only run one o/s per machine
[08:39] <trappist> mwe: or even better, minimize it :)
[08:40] <MetaMorfoziS> it's you:( i want xp few fuck'n thing (for ex my KRESZ exam fuck'n delphi style exam program)
[08:40] <graft> not with this crappy driver i won't
[08:41] <robotgeek> MetaMorfoziS: language
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> so, i install win on the second disk
[08:41] <soundray> trappist, just make sure you don't forget that it's not a benchmark! :)
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> (during i swith off my ubuntu winch.)
[08:41] <Nivko> What command was for closing Vi?
[08:41] <trappist> :q!
[08:41] <MetaMorfoziS> and it's work (but need recover in bios, the boot deivces)?
[08:42] <Dasnipa`> whats the apt flag to see the files installed from a package
[08:42] <trappist> soundray: maybe I should add "echo $DISCLAIMER" to that alias, just in case
[08:42] <Cyphon> pestilence: thank you
[08:42] <MetaMorfoziS> robotgeek: i'm from hungary and my english grammar is bad, like i sayed up^^
[08:42] <pestilence> Cyphon: np
[08:42] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell Nivko about vim
[08:42] <soundray> trappist, is that enough though? Maybe you should add a dialog "Are you SURE you want to run this tool?"
[08:43] <Cyphon> Also, is there a shortcut key to push to during boot up to skip and service that is not starting and just sitting there?
[08:43] <Cyphon> an*
[08:43] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, bad language is not needed, - I am trying to figure out what would be the easiest solution for you
[08:43] <trappist> soundray: excellent idea.  with a click here to agree that this is not a benchmark.
[08:43] <graft> Cyphon: ctrl-C
[08:43] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: okay, thank you.
[08:43] <mikol> ompaul: "cat /etc/fstab" gives me >> "/media/floppy auto r,user,noauto 0 0"
[08:43] <Cyphon> graft: that does not work
[08:43] <graft> Cyphon: what service?
[08:44] <Cyphon> any, say bind
[08:44] <anders> hey guys! noob in da house ;-) What should I choose in Multimedia Systems Selector?
[08:44] <Cyphon> or networking
[08:44] <ompaul> mikol, /dev/fd0 <<-- is that not at the start of that line?
[08:44] <graft> anders: choose life.
[08:44] <MetaMorfoziS> language!! sry i thinks he ask about my language... so you think about my cursing, okay i stop cursing, sry all.
[08:44] <JoeBlow> anyone had luck using wine to run y! 7
[08:44] <mikol> ompaul: nope
[08:44] <anders> graft: good place to start :-)
[08:44] <trappist> MetaMorfoziS: :)
[08:44] <mikol> ompaul: actually im not sure but i guess no
[08:44] <graft> anders: okay, then choose a job.
[08:45] <mikol> sience i rewrote everything
[08:45] <ompaul> mikol, cat /etc/fstab and read it
[08:45] <anders> graft: got that one too
[08:45] <trappist> JoeBlow: to run what?
[08:45] <anders> I have ALSA on both audio devices, and it seems to work
[08:45] <einPaule> guys! Terribly sorry but I just got visit, cant throw them out... Ill get back to you
[08:45] <mikol> brb again
[08:45] <graft> okay... (let's see how long I can run with this) then choose a career.
[08:46] <anders> graft: I ain't easily bored, so we can do this all night. when the job is chosen, the career is kinda chosen too
[08:47] <graft> err. never mind, this joke is clearly falling flat because you haven't seen trainspotting
[08:47] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, your setup confuses me as I have only ever installed Linux on a box that already had windows on it first, then grub works out all the stuff - I would suggest you look at the Grub install web page here: and if that fails then I am beginning to think that windows needs a reinstall, you can and should leave the management of the hard drives to grub and let the bios see both of them
[08:48] <gnudreamer> any good voice recgonition software for linux?
[08:48] <anders> graft: ahhh. have only seen the movie poster, but I kinda should've gotten it anyway :-/
[08:49] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, have a look at this page, it is for you if you have to reinstall windows and then try to recover grub https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[08:49] <anders> I have some problems running video. What are the best choices for Sink and Source in the Multimedia Systems Selector?
[08:50] <tech9iner> moin ubuntuMates'n'lassies'n'gurus'n'noobzLikeMeso.. methinks xine is bestes engine for amarok no?
[08:50] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: okay, i checks, thx.
[08:51] <devzero> hey, anyone know why "ssh-add" wont accept my passphrase when i know it's correct. I even changed it in Seahorse and it still wont work :S
[08:51] <fsm> salut vous etes combien au forum
[08:51] <eugman> Is there any form of ubuntu live cd that can be used to install ubuntu also?
[08:51] <trappist> fsm: /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:51] <nalioth> !fr
[08:51] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:51] <devzero> it's from a windows PGP
[08:51] <trappist> tech9iner
[08:51] <tech9iner> curious how in synaptic when i search for xine im not finding it?.. and amarok thusfar isnt seeing it?
[08:52] <tech9iner> ;] 
[08:52] <trappist> tech9iner: xine-ui ?
[08:52] <nalioth> eugman: not at this time, dapper or dapper +1 may have one
[08:52] <trappist> tech9iner: libxine?
[08:52] <soundray> devzero, does the phrase contain returns?
[08:52] <jenda> tech9iner: have you enabled repos?
[08:52] <tech9iner> ahh.. saw that aye i did idid
[08:52] <eugman> Darn. Was hoping one cd could be used to test and install. Thanks for the info
[08:52] <tech9iner> multiverse n universe yes jenda .. ty 4 checking
[08:52] <trappist> tech9iner: ah it's libxine1
[08:52] <devzero> no, it's just a single aplha numeric string. one line could the enter at the end count?
[08:52] <tech9iner> ty trappist
[08:53] <dalamar> the dvd had the live cd and the install on it both
[08:53] <miki> ompaul: it shows "/dev/fd0  /media/floppy  auto  rw,user,noauto  0  0"
[08:53] <soundray> devzero, no.
[08:53] <devzero> soundray, it's driving me mad and it's works fine in putty on my work windows pc
[08:53] <soundray> devzero, checking the obvious: are you passing the name of the private key file on the command line?
[08:53] <eugman> 'nother question:Do you need a special kind of card to make a router or just a second ethernet card.
[08:54] <fsm> et sa marche kan meme
[08:54] <trappist> devzero: putty and openssh don't understand the same keys afaik - I have to keep a separate key for putty.
[08:54] <miki> i tried to use "mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /home/miki/floppy" but it came with "special device /dev/fd0 does no eist"
[08:54] <trappist> fsm: did I mention /join #ubuntu-fr
[08:54] <devzero> soundray, i have it as ~/.ssh/id_rsa so the command is "ssh-add ~/.ssh/id_rsa"
[08:54] <butcherbird> just ripped a dvd to xvid was but audio stream is out of sync what do you guys use for adjusting audio stream easily in linux?
[08:54] <majik^work> hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu 5.10 for i386, and I'm needing to setup an ethernet bridge - but I don't seem to have the brctl executable.  any ideas?
[08:54] <devzero> trappist, i exported a fresh one from the windows pgp thing today
[08:55] <trappist> devzero: pgp? ssh? windows? eh?
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> huh it's too hard for me.
[08:55] <trappist> devzero: run ssh-keygen and see if that one works
[08:55] <soundray> devzero, and you have ssh-agent running?
[08:55] <mwe> majik^work: install bridge-utils
[08:55] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul no there an easier way? I'm not a 100year old linux user :( but a 4day old:)
[08:56] <zdennis> anyone here have the problem with GAIM, when you try to set a max of 4 conversations per window, and GAIM doesn't listen ? It seems to be a problem with the gaim shipped with ubuntu... i dont have this issue on non-ubuntu gaim packages
[08:56] <devzero> soundray, yep.
[08:56] <mds> hi.. anybody know how to get rid of the system bell in ubuntu breezy?
[08:56] <tech9iner> hmmm.. well libxine1 is already onboard?.. <scratch'nNoggin>.. so riddle me this mates.. why come amarok doesnt seem to see and thus allow me to choose it as engione for amarok?...
[08:56] <zdennis> mds, yes.... one sec, let me ope nmy file
[08:56] <mds> i uncommented the 'set bell style none' line in /etc/inputrc
[08:56] <robotgeek> mds: preferences -> sound
[08:56] <ompaul> miki, so pop in the floppy and type this >>sudo mount -t msdos /dev/fd0 /media/floppy <<
[08:56] <_jason> tech9iner: install amarok-xine
[08:56] <ubuntu_> hi everyone, ive got ubuntu running on a new amd64 system, trying to set up soft raid-0 since my mobo claims to support it
[08:57] <armosfighter> can i set up a double boot from linux with windows
[08:57] <mds> robotgeek: i'm not using gnome.. something called ratpoison
[08:57] <armosfighter> ?
[08:57] <armosfighter> i mean
[08:57] <armosfighter> using linux and having windows
[08:57] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, okay, so you have no important data on the ubuntu disk
[08:57] <armosfighter> yea..
[08:57] <robotgeek> mds: hmm, okay. lemme see what i've got
[08:57] <zdennis> mds, in your .bashrc (or whatever rc file you use) put this in there...
[08:57] <zdennis> set bell-style none
[08:57] <zdennis> xset b off
[08:57] <zdennis> setterm -blength 0
[08:57] <ubuntu_> i followed the instructions in the wiki and booted into the live cd
[08:57] <nalioth> zdennis: please don't paste
[08:57] <ubuntu_> but dmraid claims i have no raid devices
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> if i install xp on the second drive (with drawn "ubuntu" dirive) it's only work when i set manually in the bios?
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> important...
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> no...
[08:57] <ubuntu_> ive never set up raid before and have no idea what to do
[08:57] <soundray> devzero, I second trappist's suggestion.
[08:57] <majik^work> mwe: ah.  hm.  lemme see if I can find it.  earlier I searched for "brctl", "bridge", and just "br" in synaptic but it didn't find anything like that.
[08:57] <mds> zdennis: let me check :)
[08:57] <zdennis> nalioth, yah yah, i know, but it was only 3 lines =)
[08:57] <MetaMorfoziS> but i don't want reisntall/install ubuntu again:)
[08:57] <miki> fine ompaul :)
[08:57] <zdennis> mds, you may need to logout and log back in for it to take effect
[08:58] <devzero> soundray, wont that create a new key pair?
[08:58] <armosfighter> do i have to reinstall ubuntu to do a double boot?
[08:58] <robotgeek> zdennis: wouldn't a simple export work?
[08:58] <robotgeek> for now?
[08:58] <armosfighter> MMM!
[08:58] <_jason> tech9iner: no need, but yw I guess :)
[08:58] <mwe> majik^work: it's in main. I have no idea if it's on the cd though
[08:58] <zdennis> robotgeek, yeah you're right
[08:58] <ubuntu_> anyone have any recommendations for setting up raid-0?
[08:58] <ReDeemer> is it possible to use a 5 mutton mouse in ubuntu?
[08:58] <butcherbird> MetaMorfoziS: i would think you just need to run grub-install
[08:58] <soundray> devzero, yes. If you can ssh-add that, at least you know that your Linux-side installation is okay.
[08:58] <zdennis> mds could test it in a shell, and see if it fixes the shell
[08:58] <mds> zdennis: thanks, it works
[08:59] <zdennis> awesome, and you're welcome
[08:59] <devzero> soundray, ok i'll give it a go. thanks for the tip :)
[08:59] <MetaMorfoziS> from console, at this time?
[08:59] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, if you reinstalled windows on disk two and controlled the whole mess with the bios it would work, not sweet but it would work
[08:59] <mwe> I wish you could get a new keyboard for laptop without paying about as much as a new laptop would cost :(
[08:59] <zdennis> no one with GAIM issues besides me (in regards to conversation window placement? )
[08:59] <majik^work> mwe: ah ok
[08:59] <robotgeek> ReDeemer: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MX1000Mouse may help
[08:59] <transgress_> zdennis: what do you mean?
[08:59] <tweek888> Hello, how can I reprobe for hosts?
[08:59] <MetaMorfoziS> ahm, ok but no way to select os-s from grub...
[08:59] <tweek888> or reconfigure them
[08:59] <robotgeek> mwe: get a usb one
[08:59] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, I would have put ubuntu on disk hdb and windows on hda but that is the way I would have done it
[08:59] <ReDeemer> danke
[08:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell ReDeemer about mouse
[09:00] <trappist> tweek888: edit /etc/hosts if I understand your question correctly
[09:00] <zdennis> transgres, there is a ExtPlacement plugin that comes default with GAIM it seems, and it lets you set the max number of conversations per window.
[09:00] <jhtrask> im gunna go grab my mobo manual, see if it says anything useful
[09:00] <butcherbird> MetaMorfoziS: well what i normally do is just edit /etc/apt/source.list there is an example entry there for windows just copy it and replace with correct partion info
[09:00] <soundray> mwe, I paid 75 Euros for a replacement laptop kb. Not cheap, but much less than a new laptop.
[09:00] <antisocial_boris> i just sorted out my new external hard drive, but for some reason only superusers can make files/directories on it, how can i change that?
[09:00] <mwe> robotgeek: and carry an external keyboard around with the laptop :|
[09:00] <tweek888> trappist, I'm not sure whats I should make it :P
[09:00] <transgress_> zdennis: never used it.  but sounds like a gaim bug to me.
[09:00] <mwe> soundray: yeah
[09:00] <ReDeemer> /etc/hosts will only list
[09:00] <robotgeek> mwe: you get thing rollable ones now
[09:00] <zdennis> transgress , i have it set to 4, but GAIM isn't listening to the setting, and instead I've got 12 converations in one window
[09:00] <rapha> Don't Clamshell iBooks have DEL keys?????
[09:00] <robotgeek> rapha: fn + del
[09:00] <clemslacker> i just installed aterm on ubuntu with the fluxbox window manager.  trying to configure and the config file is suppose to be in ~/.Xdefault.  i didnt see it there, where would it be?
[09:00] <mwe> soundray: maybe I should look into this further
[09:00] <ompaul> butcherbird, MetaMorfoziS is doing grub stuff - I think you made a mistake there
[09:00] <zdennis> trangress, it works fine on other systems, just not my Ubuntu system, what is the channel to report bugs to package maintainers? How do you find out who a maintainer is?
[09:01] <tweek888> also, I can't use sudo
[09:01] <robotgeek> clemslacker: look for an example at http://robotgeek.org/dotfiles
[09:01] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: butcherbird said about my "MISSING NTLDR" i think, no?
[09:01] <trappist> zdennis: bug reporting isn't done on irc
[09:01] <robotgeek> clemslacker: if you don't have one, you need to create one
[09:01] <soundray> mwe, I found a reseller of laptop parts by entering the laptop part number in Google.
[09:01] <butcherbird> ompaul: lol yes...
[09:01] <transgress_> zdennis: beats the piss out of me.  let me test this out.  give me a minute.
[09:01] <tweek888> it says can not gethostbyname()
[09:01] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, no that is a windows recovery situation
[09:01] <robotgeek> tweek888: did you change your hostname?
[09:01] <mwe> soundray: oh
[09:01] <jhtrask> yeah, all the manual says is that the mobo supports nvidia raid. is there anything i should be doing in the bios maybe?
[09:01] <jhtrask> the drives are sata
[09:01] <trappist> tweek888: sounds like your loopback device is down
[09:01] <clemslacker> robotgeek:  thanx, i thought that but it did not say explecitally
[09:01] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, and I know little or nothing about windows
[09:02] <tweek888> robotgeek, I disabled my network card, when I enabled it got those errors
[09:02] <tech9iner> misfit_toy: moin me quiet mang
[09:02] <tweek888> alright, I will check thay
[09:02] <tweek888> that*
[09:02] <trappist> tweek888: ifconfig lo - does it have an ip address?  if so is it 127.0.0.1?
[09:02] <juliux> i has someone installed qmail on ubuntu?
[09:02] <MetaMorfoziS> anyway, xpreisntall isn't a big thing because i use ghost, norton ghost... so i nstall xp, install ghost, and recover my old, and preconfigured xp backup.
[09:02] <tweek888> trappist, yes
[09:02] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, if I was in your position I would move the windows disk to the first slot
[09:02] <tech9iner> anyone know best app in xfce4 to get hardware specs and/or stats please
[09:02] <robotgeek> juliux: why do you want to install qmail?
[09:03] <rapha> robotgeek: thanks :-/ ... is there no way to change it so that the extra ENTER key can be used as a DEL key? I need DEL a lot for programming :-/
[09:03] <trappist> tweek888: that's not it then.  have you messed with /etc/nsswitch.conf?
[09:03] <juliux> robotgeek, because i want to have a good webinterface
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> why? and how?
[09:03] <tweek888> trappist, possibly
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> not how... moment i use translator...
[09:03] <nalioth> tech9iner: in a console run "sudo lshw"
[09:03] <transgress_> zdennis: you're right.  it doesn't work at all
[09:03] <juliux> robotgeek, and virtualdomain support
[09:03] <robotgeek> juliux: since qmail is not FREE, it's not included in ubuntu
[09:03] <tech9iner> coolness... ty muchly chum nalioth
[09:03] <MetaMorfoziS> whereby?
[09:03] <tweek888> I used system -> networking
[09:03] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, why, because the drive may think it is talking to C:\>
[09:03] <trappist> tweek888: possibly?  that's one file you really don't want to mess with unless you know exactly what you're doing.
[09:03] <robotgeek> juliux: you need to build it yourself
[09:04] <tweek888> to disable my card, now it won't start
[09:04] <transgress_> zdennis: but ummm... can't help you.  could add the plugin manually from the site?
[09:04] <juliux> robotgeek, ok yes that i know
[09:04] <transgress_> zdennis: check bugs.ubuntu.com or whatever the bugzilla site is for it.
[09:04] <JoeBlow> when i went to kde it changes all my icons in gnome, how can i put them back?
[09:04] <robotgeek> rapha: maybe xmodmap.conf/ Preferences -> Keyboard -> Layout tab
[09:04] <juliux> robotgeek, but i want to know if somebody has done this, or know where i can find a howto
[09:05] <robotgeek> juliux: you'll find lots of howto's on debian, you can use those
[09:05] <rapha> robotgeek: thx!
[09:05] <robotgeek> juliux: you might also consider imp-horde
[09:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't understand
[09:05] <MetaMorfoziS> i think i do an xp reinstall and hit or miss
[09:05] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, I think something is getting lost in translation
[09:05] <ompaul> !hr
[09:05] <ubotu> hr is probably za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.
[09:05] <juliux> robotgeek, imp-horde is only a webmailer no webinterface for administration a mta
[09:06] <butcherbird> MetaMorfoziS: grub recovery process: edit /boot/grub/menu.lst then type sudo grub then type root (hd0,1) or whatever partition then type setup (hd0). Sometimes there is a problem with boot flag when booting windows change with sudo cfdisk
[09:06] <robotgeek> juliux: webmin + postfix
[09:06] <juliux> robotgeek, argh webmin is so bad
[09:06] <robotgeek> juliux: heh
[09:06] <ompaul> butcherbird, his issue is ntlr or whatever windows call it is missing
[09:06] <eugman> !router
[09:06] <ompaul> and language is problematic
[09:07] <tweek888> trappist, so I'm screwed? :D
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> butcherbird:  two problem on your last line: language and my linux savvy  :)
[09:07] <robotgeek> juliux: i'm all ouuta ideas
[09:07] <eugman> !ubotu
[09:07] <juliux> robotgeek, the problem with the debian howtos is that debian use /etc/inetd.conf
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> ok
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> si after
[09:07] <juliux> robotgeek, ok
[09:07] <trappist> tweek888: hopefully a reboot will fix it.  if not, boot into recovery mode and try to fix it from there.
[09:07] <eugman> !why isn't this working
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> i installed xp on second i can tell grub to use it...
[09:07] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, is that y za hrvatski dodjite na #ubuntu-hr, da ne zbunjujete engleze.  << any use?
[09:07] <MetaMorfoziS> no?
[09:07] <robotgeek> juliux: xinetd.conf is used by ubuntu, i think
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> igen, magyarul is irhatnm csak senki nem rten, de a forditsba tuti elveszett valami...
[09:08] <juliux> robotgeek, yes but the debian qmail buildskript want to have inetd.conf
[09:08] <xst> How do I install new dictionaries in oowriter2? I have tried to select the "install new dictionaries" wizard but nothing happens. What to do?
[09:08] <butcherbird> MetaMorfoziS: i did have problem with boot flag in cfdisk shouldnt matter but i had to change,try that before reinstall,  good luck
[09:08] <MetaMorfoziS> i think you try to redirect me a hungarian ubuntu room
[09:08] <EmFactor> ok guys..I need help getting into the grub config file...
[09:08] <CanYouHelpMePlz> so stoneed
[09:08] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, not if windows thinks it it is on D: not C
[09:09] <MetaMorfoziS> yes #ubuntu.hu and it have ~7users idle for 100years
[09:09] <boxemall> hi folks. i came here few dayz ago and told u about my probelm
[09:09] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, ahh
[09:09] <boxemall> i don't have any sound on the right channel
[09:09] <tech9iner> nalioth whoa.. quite handy that cli mate.. tx! ;] 
[09:09] <boxemall> using a soundcard with ICE1712 chipset
[09:09] <robotgeek> juliux: http://espelhos.edugraf.ufsc.br/ubuntu/pool/multiverse/q/qmail/
[09:09] <MetaMorfoziS> yes my win is on d
[09:09] <MetaMorfoziS> d:q
[09:09] <MetaMorfoziS> d:\
[09:10] <juliux> robotgeek, i will take a look thxs
[09:10] <boxemall> what i find strange is that on the log in screen the "bongo-sound" appears in stereo
[09:10] <ubotu> from memory, router is a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[09:10] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[09:10] <ubotu> eugman: What?
[09:10] <boxemall> as soon as i "enter" desktop stereo sounds go away
[09:10] <robotgeek> juliux: i dunno who wrote that etc, google brought it up
[09:10] <MetaMorfoziS> so for secure my linux drive i drag out the power cable from this.
[09:10] <JoeBlow> i installed jabber but i cant seem to find it, any ideas?
[09:10] <juliux> robotgeek, ah
[09:10] <MetaMorfoziS> only one winchster is active, and my linux is saved:)
[09:11] <robotgeek> juliux: :) it's good to be paranoid abt these things
[09:11] <boxemall> does anyone know what this problem is about and how it is to solve
[09:12] <boxemall> with ubuntu 5.04 i had no problem
[09:12] <EmFactor> could anyone direct me on how to get the GRUB config file open?  I can't seem to find the grub.conf file
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> and sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:12] <trappist> boxemall: if you use gnome, esd is probably to blame.  artsd if kde.
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> and -
[09:12] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, may I message you>?
[09:12] <trappist> EmFactor: /boot/grub/menu.lst ?
[09:12] <boxemall> this problem appears since 5.10 and i switched to 6.04 beta to see if it was solved cauze i read something on the net that sound managemenst is about to be changed
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> no, i wrote it for EmFactor
[09:12] <MetaMorfoziS> EmFactor: sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:13] <MetaMorfoziS> EmFactor: find the grub's config file:)
[09:13] <EmFactor> thanks..I'll give it a shot
[09:13] <boxemall> @trappist - yes i heard about that
[09:13] <boxemall> but how can i manually configure esd
[09:13] <MetaMorfoziS> i don't understand grub, but know where is the coonfigfile:D
[09:13] <boxemall> or doesn't it matter anymway
[09:13] <MetaMorfoziS> and if i can help anyone...
[09:14] <Bone_Down> okay... I have been looking around the inet last couple of days and can not seem to find a solution to my particular problem *seems others on ubuntuforums are having the same issue*
[09:14] <trappist> boxemall: I don't use gnome, and since my card does hardware mixing I don't use a sound server at all... my kneejerk reaction would be to kill esd.
[09:14] <ompaul> boxemall, if it is still fault then it should be reported on launchpad.net
[09:14] <Bone_Down> Evolution and LDAP
[09:14] <eugman> !router
[09:14] <ubotu> somebody said router was a device used to connect multiple computers online at the same time, or wirelessly. It would be a box in between your modem and computer if you go by the wires.
[09:14] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: sg lost in the translation:D
[09:14] <boxemall> my card supports hardware mixing
[09:14] <Bone_Down> anyone else have problems? and have you had any luck fixing it?
[09:14] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, you may message me
[09:14] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[09:14] <boxemall> using cubase on windoze without problems
[09:14] <trappist> boxemall: then you have no need for esd
[09:14] <mzinz> I was customizing my desktop/bars, for some reason when i open a program it doesn't show up on the bottom bar anymore, just in my mini-desktop windows. any idea what to do?
[09:15] <eugman> Hey can anything go wrong if I plug in a second network card?
[09:15] <trappist> boxemall: but I don't use gnome, so I don't know how to tell you how to get rid of it
[09:15] <trappist> eugman: plenty of stuff *can* go wrong but probably won't
[09:16] <boxemall> what should i configure and how if i don't need esd?
[09:16] <eugman> Ok is anything likely to go critically wrong?
[09:17] <mzinz> I was customizing my desktop/bars, for some reason when i open a program it doesn't show up on the bottom bar anymore, just in my mini-desktop windows. any idea what to do?
[09:17] <talisein> I heard that the intel e1000 cards pull a lot of power on bootup that, when several are installed, may be bad for an older computer
[09:17] <talisein> but other than that, the worst that could go wrong is your internet doesn't work
[09:17] <Bone_Down> Evolution and LDAP anyone else having problems displaying contacts?
[09:18] <AMDXP> anyone using beep media player and if so how do you start it from XTerm
[09:19] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, you need to register to be able to send messages
[09:19] <ubuntu> hola
[09:19] <ompaul> !register
[09:19] <ubotu> register is, like, totally, type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[09:19] <ompaul> !es
[09:19] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:19] <ubuntu> hello
[09:19] <ompaul> hello
[09:20] <ubuntu> hola
[09:20] <ompaul> ubuntu, if you want to ask a question work away
[09:20] <boxemall> how do i post this bug @ launchpad?
[09:20] <boxemall> never did this before! do i have to register?
[09:21] <ompaul> boxemall, yes https://launchpad.net
[09:21] <gimmulF_> Hi im having an powerbook with osx which im using to ssh my linux machinem, i would like to ssh there and program some webbdevelopment and then use the browser on my powerbook to view the result, im using apache on the linux machine so how do i get /var/www/ to my http://localhost/ on my powerbook=? :)
[09:21] <mzinz> I was customizing my desktop/bars, for some reason when i open a program it doesn't show up on the bottom bar anymore, just in my mini-desktop windows. any idea what to do?
[09:21] <ubuntu> necesito ayuda
[09:22] <xored> hello, iam installed/comiled the new IPW2200 driver for intelPRO Wlan and everthing works fine. Now i need to connect to a WPA-RSK network but i cannot find the syntax in the readme. Can someone help me please ?
[09:22] <veleno> hello everyone. i have a machine with debian/unstable that i'd like to migrate to ubuntu, without losing any data in my home: is there a safe procedure for it?
[09:22] <JasonWoof> I've been clicking and searching around the synaptic package manager and I can't find most of the packages I want (ion, lua, mol) what should I do?
[09:22] <trappist> veleno: not really.  an upgrade like that isn't supported and is likely to fail.  this is why I keep /home on its own partition.
[09:22] <robotgeek> ubotu: tell JasonWoof about repos
[09:22] <miki> ompaul: it shows "special service /dev/fd0 does not exist" message all the time
[09:22] <miki> :(
[09:23] <MetaMorfoziS> ompaul: i do that, did you see my msg?
[09:23] <JasonWoof> thanks
[09:23] <ompaul> MetaMorfoziS, I do now :-)
[09:23] <ubuntulinus> hello, i'm a real newbie when it comes to *nix so my question might seem trivial to you people, but hey, here goes: how do i get my swedish letters to start working in irssi and centericq?
[09:23] <tweek888> trappist, ok thanks for the help
[09:23] <tweek888> :D
[09:23] <soundray> veleno, is your /home a separate partition?
[09:23] <PupenoL> Hello, installing linux-image-2.6.12-10-686 (2.6.12-10.26) the process halted and I can't do anything but dpkg --configure -a which continues to freeze, any ideas ?
[09:23] <Seveas> ubuntulinus, set a UTF8 locale in irssi and your terminal
[09:24] <ompaul> miki, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[09:24] <Seveas> ubuntulinus, usually 'sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales' helps
[09:24] <ubuntulinus> ok
[09:24] <gnudreamer> libmp3lame.so anyone know where this file should be located?
[09:24] <ubuntulinus> i'll try that, thanks
[09:24] <miki> hmm, sec
[09:25] <Bone_Down> Evolution 2.4.1 and LDAP anyone else having problems with contacts not being displayed?? breezy 2.6.12-10.26
[09:25] <trappist> gnudreamer: install liblame-dev and liblame0
[09:25] <gnudreamer> through apt-get?
[09:25] <clemslacker> robotgeek:  once i change the config file do i have to log out to see the changes?
[09:25] <spine> how can i change the gnome crash command, is it in gconf?
[09:25] <spine> anyone
[09:26] <xored> hello, iam installed/comiled the new IPW2200 driver for intelPRO Wlan and everthing works fine. Now i need to connect to a WPA-RSK network but i cannot find the syntax in the readme. Can someone help me please ?
[09:26] <miki> ompaul: its 5.0 iso
[09:27] <miki> ompaul: its 5.10 iso
[09:27] <soundray> xored, I haven't done this, but I hear you need to install wpasupplicant
[09:27] <ompaul> miki, then it should have detected your floppy, is it an external floppy on usb or something?
[09:27] <mzinz> trappist, random question.  I was playing with my taskbar, and now open applications don't show up minimized, any idea how to get that back? I have a pic
[09:27] <miki> ompaul: nope, its normal floppy... it works when im booting pc an also it works in windows
[09:27] <trappist> mzinz: random answer: I don't use gnome
[09:28] <miki> ompaul: oldschool internal one
[09:28] <xored> soundray: where do i get him ?
[09:28] <gnomefreak> mzinz: add the task manager back to the taskbar
[09:28] <soundray> xored, apt-get install
[09:28] <ompaul> miki, just wondering why it is not detected by ubuntu that is not good
[09:29] <mzinz> gnomefreak, just got it, it was 'window manager'
[09:29] <xored> soundray:  thank you
[09:29] <gnomefreak> that too sorry just woke up
[09:29] <miki> ompaul: i had debian previously, and i had same problem
[09:30] <miki> ompaul: it looks like its detected but something is not working
[09:30] <miki> ompaul: i had file system errors and stuff but all fdd drivers were fine
[09:30] <Bone_Down> Evolution 2.4.1 and LDAP anyone else having problems with contacts not being displayed?? breezy 2.6.12-10.26
[09:31] <Crell42> Hello.  I'm having an odd problem with Apache 2 under Ubuntu Breezy.  It seems that all downloadable files are being cut off at just under 20 kb.  HTML pages get through, but images, CSS files, and PDFs don't load all the way.
[09:31] <soundray> miki, is the floppy module loaded?
[09:31] <Crell42> I've confirmed that it's a server-side issue, but the logs say nothing of use.
[09:31] <Crell42> Any suggestions?
[09:31] <miki> soundray: im pretty new to linux, can u explain more?
[09:31] <xored> can someone help me a bit with the wpasupplicant
[09:32] <xored> how to connect to a WPA-PSK network with wpasupplicant
[09:32] <gnomefreak> this better work :(
[09:32] <soundray> miki, are you familiar with entering commands in the terminal yet?
[09:32] <m0wax> I have been told that mplayer is in the main repo's for ubuntu (Breezy Badger x86) but I can't see it.  Do I have to add other repo's or have I heard wrong?
[09:32] <sfsa> how do i list all installed packages ?
[09:32] <gnomefreak> dpkg -l i think sfsa
[09:32] <Revellion> m0wax: mplayer is in multiverse
[09:32] <ompaul> miki, floppy may be funny hardware, or it may be the case that the media is dodgy
[09:32] <trappist> m0wax: you have to select an mplayer package, like mplayer-686
[09:32] <cafuego> xored: You need to set up a config file.
[09:32] <trappist> m0wax: oh, and yeah, it's in universe
[09:33] <miki> soundray: i know some commands, and i got full command list printed here with explanations
[09:33] <cafuego> xored: Easiest way is to run wpa_password
[09:33] <Revellion> m0wax: so you need to add multiverse to be able to get mplayer
[09:33] <cafuego> xored: That'll give you a few lines to paste into /etc/wpa_supplicant.conf
[09:33] <soundray> miki, enter 'lsmod | grep floppy'. If you get a line of output, the module is loaded. No output=not loaded.
[09:33] <mzinz> gnomefreak, is gaim the best aim client? in your opinion
[09:34] <m0wax> hmm I tried adding multiverse in adept but i don't think its worked.  So I just go in thru command line and add "multiverse" to any line that already has "universe" right?
[09:34] <trappist> mzinz: in my opinion bitlbee is the best im client
[09:34] <miki> soundray: fine, i must restart.. brb in 10min
[09:34] <gnomefreak> for linux yes mzinz it is
[09:34] <soundray> miki, why restart?
[09:34] <MFen> anyone know how to query /proc for the fsb speed for memory timing?
[09:34] <mzinz> trappist, whats that like
[09:34] <cafuego> MFen: I doubt that's in /proc
[09:34] <trappist> mzinz: it's a pseudo irc server that connects to im networks and lets you use your irc client to do im stuff
[09:34] <MFen> cafuego: well, wherever it is. is there a way to tell?
[09:34] <xored> cafuego: ill try
[09:34] <gnomefreak> i use gaim 2.0 :)
[09:34] <miki> soundray: ubuntu is on same pc as this windows
[09:35] <sfsa> can i delete all the cups packages ?
[09:35] <miki> soundray: just other partition
[09:35] <halibut> Hi, I started installing ubuntu64, I got to the part where it asks you to remove the cd and reboot, then it rebooted and hung with loads of text on the screen, then I rebooted it (ctrl alt del, and I got all the term stuff), Then it said that the install might be corrupt, then it started doing lots of stuff, there is loads of white lines of text comming up on the screen, millions and millions of lines, it has been going for about
[09:35] <halibut> 20 minutes so fast that I cannot read it, am I screwed?
[09:35] <sfsa> i have no printer
[09:35] <soundray> miki, okay.
[09:35] <mzinz> trappist, oh, i see
[09:35] <cafuego> MFen: There's a 'wcpuid' for Linux, I believe. That would tell you.
[09:35] <MFen> cafuego: thanks, i'll look for htat
[09:35] <xored> cafuego: i cannot rund wpa_password, its not installed or smth
[09:35] <miki> soundray: im trying to config network on ubuntu, but i must get drivers from floppy :)
[09:35] <cafuego> MFen: d'oh, that's not a freebie.
[09:35] <trappist> mzinz: all your buddies etc. show up in a #bitlbee channel on the server and you can /msg them etc.
[09:35] <soundray> miki, hold on:
[09:35] <gnomefreak> halibut:  i would say that the install failed
[09:36] <MFen> cafuego: oh. argh.
[09:36] <soundray> miki, can you not download the drivers to your Windows partition?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> halibut: what version of ubuntu are you trying to install?
[09:36] <mzinz> thats kinda cool
[09:36] <trappist> mzinz: it's hella cool
[09:36] <veleno> soundray, my home it's in a separate partition, right
[09:36] <halibut> gnomefreak, it is amd64 latest
[09:36] <mzinz> trappist, so is each convo a priv msg?
[09:36] <MFen> cafuego: surely this information is available somewhere
[09:36] <trog> im going insane lol, why cant i use the mkinitrd?  "command not found"?
[09:36] <gnomefreak> halibut: is it 5.10?
[09:36] <halibut> gnomefreak, yes
[09:36] <trappist> mzinz: that's how I do it, but you can do it all in the #bitlbee channel too by doing for example buddyname: sup
[09:37] <miki> soundray: i dont see windows partition(NTFS) under ubuntu, and ubuntu partition(ex2) under windows
[09:37] <mzinz> trappist, i see, cool thanks
[09:37] <halibut> it is on 1100 now, but it seems to be printing a million lines of text per number gnomefreak ....
[09:37] <soundray> veleno, in that case you can install Ubuntu over your Debian, not touching the partition where /home is. When you're finished, you can put /home in /etc/fstab.
[09:37] <cafuego> MFen: If you query the bios, I'm sure it'll tell you. Maybe try 'dmidecode'.
[09:37] <gnomefreak> halibut: i would say try to re-install it if it fails at same point i would say a bad download/burn :(
[09:38] <halibut> gnomefreak, ok thanks
[09:38] <cafuego> trog: My guess would be that you don't have it installed.
[09:38] <gnomefreak> brb gonna see if this is fixed finally
[09:38] <soundray> miki, there is a trick to mounting the windows partition, but you can usually read it from Ubuntu (not write).
[09:38] <MFen> cafuego: ok
[09:38] <cafuego> MFen: If not, perhaps the 'eeprom' sensors module.
[09:39] <trog> cafuego: i cant find anywhere that i can install it, via apt, synaptic, google - is it part of a bigger package?
[09:39] <veleno> is there a program to see tv (like xdtv) in 5.10  ?
[09:39] <miki> soundray; yep, i heared.. but im trying to fix fdd too sience i might need it someday :)
[09:39] <tech9iner> alas.. this ole fogey lappy bit week methinks for xine/amarok playback.. lockn bugger up..
[09:39] <miki> anyway brb
[09:39] <cafuego> !find mkinitrd
[09:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package Listing of 'mkinitrd' (2 shown): bootcd-mkinitrd ;; mkinitrd-cd.
[09:39] <halibut> It won't let me turn it off, what do I do?!
[09:39] <tech9iner> Pll 266/64ram bit thin twuld seem
[09:39] <cafuego> !find bin/mkinitrd
[09:39] <soundray> veleno, xawtv, and there are others.
[09:39] <ubotu> Ubuntu Search of 'bin/mkinitrd' (2 shown): (/usr/sbin/mkinitrd) in utils/initrd-tools ;; (/usr/sbin/mkinitrd-cd) in universe/admin/mkinitrd-cd.
[09:40] <cafuego> tech9iner: amarok makes even my amd64 hurt <heh>
[09:40] <tech9iner> so uMates.. litest yet handiest mp3/audio player for this weak ole lappy the please
[09:40] <cafuego> tech9iner: mpg123
[09:40] <cafuego> tech9iner: Or mebbe xmms
[09:40] <Crell42> No one has run into this Apache issue?
[09:40] <cafuego> trog: initrd-tools
[09:40] <trog> cafuego: "event not found" - im trying to upgrade the kernel to 2.6.15
[09:40] <cafuego> Crell42: Mine all work fine.
[09:41] <cafuego> trog: On breezy?
[09:41] <m0wax> how/where can upgrade to kde 3.5?
[09:41] <trog> cafuego: kk ill try
[09:41] <tech9iner> cafuego: VE.. hmm.. been workn GREat on Pll 366/128ram stack of toughbook lappys ive been loadn up with u or kubuntu sofar.. and likewise seems to work well on suse 10 too same lappys
[09:41] <soundray> tech9iner, cat file.mp3 >/dev/audio. Doesn't sound great, but it's leet
[09:41] <tech9iner> ty 4 input chumz cafuego n soundray ;] 
[09:42] <cafuego> tech9iner: It runs about as good as a bulk carrier piloted by a drunk captain, here <heh>.
[09:42] <MFen> cafuego: thanks. it helps that there were only two possibilities.. i'm pretty sure dmidecode is telling me 400MHz
[09:42] <soundray> tech9iner, ... leaving the decoding to the wetware.
[09:42] <tech9iner> rofl..
[09:42] <cafuego> tech9iner: And on the 1.5GHz box it actually *skips*
[09:43] <tech9iner> weird then cafuego .. methinks somethings amiss on that sys / arch if your 1.5 cant abide yet me old toughbooks Pll 366's run n stream fine?.. no?
[09:43] <cafuego> tech9iner: Yes, it's undoubtedly a amarok-wasn't-designed-for-ppc issue
[09:43] <tech9iner> we're talking 33Mhz bus speed on these obsolete ole beast too cafuego
[09:44] <cafuego> tech9iner: That said, any other mp3 player works absolutely fine.
[09:44] <cafuego> So I tend to blame its general KDE-ness.
[09:45] <tech9iner> hehe.. 'KD'ness'.. sounds like a trippy hippy lookn grrly DJ nick rofl
[09:46] <gnomefreak> :) X nightmare is over :)
[09:46] <cafuego> xored: /usr/sbin/wpa_passphrase from 'wpasupplicant'
[09:46] <bjv> ive right now got my ubuntu box connecting to a dialup modem via a windows machine
[09:46] <cafuego> gnomefreak: X nightmare?
[09:46] <gnomefreak> cafuego: the dapper X issue
[09:46] <Seveas> cafuego, he saw daniels doing the mambo ;)
[09:46] <bjv> im thinking of putting a modem on a separate box, installing a wireless adapter on it, and making the new machine the gateway for both this ubunut & the windows machine.
[09:47] <bjv> question: i want to run the machine from 100-600 mb of read only memory
[09:47] <bjv> can you do that with ubuntu?
[09:47] <cafuego> gnomefreak: The one where you needed to symlink Xorg?
[09:47] <Revellion> bjv: yes?
[09:47] <gnomefreak> cafuego: yeah that one
[09:47] <eugman> Gah I can't figure out the right wy to do this. I have two ethernet connections in my computer one is to the switch and one is to another computer. How do I make it so the other computer has internet acess
[09:47] <Revellion> about any distro can do that :)
[09:47] <bjv> im pretty comfortable with my ubuntu system, and would like to keep it for this new gateway
[09:47] <cafuego> good thing daniels got around to it before moving to finland
[09:47] <bjv> *isnt aware of how small default ubuntu installs can get
[09:48] <Revellion> bjv: want an example? :)
[09:48] <cafuego> bjv: Mount the system as read-only, except for /tmp and /var
[09:48] <raim2s> hello, i hawe ubuntu 5.10, but i cant start x server, becose my video adapter is not supported. i am noob. its somethig, thats i can doo?
[09:48] <Revellion> i've squeezed in a debootstrapped ubuntu breezy on merely ~120MB
[09:48] <einPaule> Okay... sorry about my flight last time... its all about OpenOff-Base - ODBC | so, graft, you asked if I had a box on Windows: No. You told me to simply use mysql, OO requires ODBC or JDBC
[09:48] <Revellion> and it still runs to this day :D
[09:48] <Revellion> on the box on my right
[09:48] <Revellion> serving as an FTP/NFS server
[09:48] <bjv> cafuego: id like to put the system on a cdrw to start with
[09:48] <einPaule> mwe, you said you used jdbc ... Is it easier to get going?
[09:49] <einPaule> and mwe, do you use it with OpenOfficeBase?
[09:49] <cafuego> bjv: Mebbe do a customised livecd then.
[09:49] <sfsa> any ubuntu server, tricks and stuff... guide ?
[09:49] <bjv> cafuego: it would be hard to get a linux system to boot from a read only disk like this?
[09:49] <trog> cafuego: (sorry to bother) made an output file but it doesnt seem to be an image...
[09:49] <miki> soundray: lsmod  shos no floppy at all
[09:50] <cafuego> bjv: No, any LiveCD does just that.
[09:50] <miki> soundray: lsmod  shows no floppy at all
[09:50] <GeForce> Hello! I have a question, I have an USB hard drive (40g), and would like to install ubuntu on it. I wanted to know how to do this, anyone knows?
[09:50] <soundray> miki, okay
[09:50] <Seventh-Monkey> Depends on the computer you're connecting it to, GeForce.
[09:50] <GeForce> Oh that's np
[09:50] <Seventh-Monkey> Some can boot from USB drives, some can't. I think most can now.
[09:50] <cafuego> GeForce: Plug drive into computer, boot install cd, choose usb drive to install to, done.
[09:50] <GeForce> it can boot from HD
[09:50] <bjv> cafuego: well, i have some ubuntu live disks, i guess ill look for a tut on how to customize them
[09:50] <soundray> miki, what you should probably try, then, is to run 'tail -f /var/log/syslog' in one terminal
[09:50] <bjv> thx
[09:51] <cafuego> bjv: Should be fairly easy.
[09:51] <soundray> miki, that will show you any system errors.
[09:51] <GeForce> cafuego w00t thanks man didn't know it was that easy
[09:51] <Seventh-Monkey> Would really appreciate a networking hand here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=87644&page=4
[09:51] <GeForce> didn't want to mess up my main hd.... so much por....... errrr music. ya music.
[09:51] <miki> soundray: fine, brb again
[09:51] <soundray> miki, in another terminal window, you enter 'sudo modprobe floppy'. This should load the floppy and create the device node /dev/fd0. If not, it should
[09:51] <soundray> miki, hold on...
[09:51] <miki> k
[09:52] <soundray> miki if not, it should show you what went wrong in the other window.
[09:52] <soundray> miki, also,
[09:52] <cafuego> GeForce: Yeh, the installer should detect the usb disk no problems.
[09:52] <soundray> miki, please try mounting your windows partition with 'sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt'
[09:53] <miki> soundray: k
[09:53] <soundray> miki, if your system is fairly typical, it'll say sth like 'mounted read-only'
[09:53] <soundray> miki, good luck.
[09:53] <ubuntu> uuudu
[09:53] <miki> soundray: brb, tnz
[09:54] <miki> soundray: brb, thx
[09:54] <nuevo> hi
[09:54] <ilba7r> how to prevent a user account from accessing the net?
[09:54] <JoeBlow> ilba7r, does the person suck so much that you wont even let them do e-mail?
[09:54] <cafuego> ilba7r: There is a userid matching extension in iptables.
[09:54] <einPaule> hmm... Can anyone help me out, Im trying to get OpenOffice Base to work with either ODBC or JDBC ... Im not sure how to set them up and how to create a db on it
[09:55] <ilba7r> cafuego ok thanks
[09:55] <raim2s> hello, i hawe ubuntu 5.10, but i cant start x server, becose my video adapter is not supported. what cann i doo? plzz
[09:55] <gnomefreak> i was thinking take the etho cord with you :(
[09:55] <JoeBlow>  cafuego, have u seen Kameron on here lately?
[09:55] <ilba7r> and JoeBlow yes me for senstive parts of my work i do not want even to be able to access the net :)
[09:56] <soundray> einPaule, I did this a while ago, following instructions I found on the web. Would it help if I found that URL for you?
[09:56] <ubuntu> algyuie q hable espaol
[09:56] <einPaule> definetly!
[09:56] <einPaule> soundray
[09:56] <_jason> !es
[09:56] <gnomefreak> !es
[09:56] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[09:56] <soundray> einPaule, okay, two minutes.
[09:57] <gnomefreak> _jason: im thinking he knows cause he comes in here everyday doing that :(
[09:57] <_jason> gnomefreak: hrmm
[09:57] <The_Bilge_Rat> hey all have a quick q _ i deleted root user last night off my box, now I can't sudo
[09:57] <cafuego> gnomefreak: No, ubuntu is the default username on the livecd.
[09:57] <gnomefreak> cafuego: ohhhhhhh ok oops
[09:58] <cafuego> gnomefreak: It's a fresh new moron every day.
[09:58] <frazmanw> I am very familiar with remote desktop in Windows, and use terminal server client to connect to my windows comp via remote desktop. What I need to know is, is there an app I can use to connect from windows into the linux desktop, without having to install anything to the windows machine?
[09:58] <The_Bilge_Rat> yes althouygh I think Im more of an old smelly moron
[09:58] <_jason> gnomefreak: lol that's kind of funny
[09:58] <Seventh-Monkey> There are telnet servers, frazman, but people almost invariably use SSH.
[09:58] <JoeBlow> ilba7r, ever think about just unplugging the cable?
[09:58] <cafuego> The_Bilge_Rat: Maybe "rank" judging from the nickname ;-)
[09:58] <gnomefreak> i was wondering why he came back everyday lol
[09:58] <Seventh-Monkey> PuTTY is a very popular freeeware Windows client for SSH.
[09:59] <The_Bilge_Rat> so I managed to rewrite root into /etc/passwd which at least let me sudo to su bu tnow it gives suthentication errors
[09:59] <cafuego> frazmanw: You can use ssh for command line access or vnc for GUI access.
[09:59] <EvilSporkMan> cafuego: why not use SSH with X11 forwarding?
[09:59] <cafuego> frazmanw: Neither of those come with windows by default, though. You'd need to downlaod 'em.
[10:00] <cafuego> EvilSporkMan: Coz that would require an X server on Windows.
[10:00] <EvilSporkMan> cafuego: ah, right; the uni windows boxes have exceed and cygwin on them
[10:00] <sfsa> i need to install " PDF Reader with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox , Flash Player and  J2SE Runtime Environment (JRE) with Plug-in for Mozilla Firefox
[10:00] <cafuego> EvilSporkMan: Exceed is Excpensive :-)
[10:00] <sfsa> what repo do i have to add to get this ?
[10:00] <yatesy> why bother with exceed if you've got cygwin?!
[10:00] <cafuego> cygwin isn't, but is also not an easy, quick solution.
[10:01] <soundray> einPaule, can't find it -- I think the page has vanished. Perhaps http://kienlein.com/pages/mysql-jdbc-howto-de.html will help, though.
[10:02] <cafuego> sfsa: universe, i believe.
[10:02] <mattwestm> is there a wireless network scanner in ubuntu?
[10:02] <einPaule> soundray, thanks a lot!
[10:02] <crimsun> mattwestm: in universe
[10:02] <EvilSporkMan> cafuego: the time to set up cygwin is probably less than the wasted time with VNC lag
[10:02] <frazmanw> cafuego, I have used VNC before does the job well, but sometimes I am not at a computer that I have rights to install to. hmmm no apps that will work without a windows side install?
[10:02] <cafuego> EvilSporkMan: You know you can compress and tunnel vnc through that same ssh session, right?
[10:02] <sfsa> cafuego enabled already , and nothing found
[10:03] <cafuego> !info flashplugin-mozilla
[10:03] <EvilSporkMan> cafuego: now _that's_ easy to set up ;)
[10:03] <cafuego> !info mozilla-flashplugin
[10:03] <ilba7r> thanx cafuego it is all set now
[10:03] <soundray> frazmanw, you can usually connect to VNC via a Java-enabled browser. No install required.
[10:04] <frazmanw> soundray, really? like with win 2003 servers terminal services. wow!
[10:04] <ilba7r> !+mozilla-flashplugin
[10:04] <ubotu> ilba7r: Not a clue
[10:04] <frazmanw> soundray, I will have to look for info on that!!
[10:04] <mattwestm> how do I get to universe?
[10:04] <crimsun> !tell mattwestm about repos
[10:04] <soundray> frazmanw, if your VNC display number is :1, the address is http://vnc-host:5801
[10:04] <cafuego> !info flashplayer-mozilla
[10:04] <ubotu> flashplayer-mozilla: (Macromedia Flash Player), section multiverse/web, is optional. Version: 7.0.25-0.0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 956 kB, Installed size: 2136 kB
[10:05] <cafuego> sfsa: 'multiverse'.
[10:05] <einPaule> soundray, it was the windows Tutorial you sent me the link to... but ive found the one for Linux in english http://kienlein.com/pages/mysql-jdbc-howto-en.html (just in case youd like to know ;-))
[10:05] <frazmanw> soundray, I will have to forward a port to it with router. so in that case the port is 5801?
[10:05] <soundray> einPaule, thanks.
[10:05] <ubuntulinus> does this look like it should? (the swedish letters)
[10:05] <cafuego> frazmanw: forward ssh, then tunnel VNC through ssh.
[10:06] <einPaule> ubuntulinus: to me... yes
[10:06] <ubuntulinus> einPaule: ok, thanks
[10:06] <soundray> frazmanw, I think you have to open 5901 as well, since that is where the plugin connects to.
[10:07] <frazmanw> soundray, I will look online for info on this. sounds like the way to go, when I am away and have no permissions to install vnc. thank you
[10:07] <soundray> frazmanw, but if you need security, it's best to tunnel, like cafuego suggests. There's lots of documentation on the web.
[10:07] <einPaule> ubuntulinus, its possible that windows users dont see them correctly because of (i dont know if you are using it) Unicode Coding
[10:07] <frazmanw> soundray, ahhhh I see. Thank you soundray and cafuego
[10:08] <mzinz> Whats a good java editor for ubuntu? I love eclipse but I would really like a simpler one for on the go
[10:08] <EvilSporkMan> mzinz: vim
[10:08] <jenda> Any idea how to turn OFF the annoying automatic bullets/numbering in OpenOffice,org 2?
[10:08] <mzinz> EvilSporkMan, is that in the package manager?
[10:09] <jdkycdoc> exit
[10:10] <soundray> jenda, check out Tools-AutoCorrect-Options
[10:11] <jenda> soundray: thanks
[10:13] <sfsa> cafuego whats the url of that ?
[10:14] <frazmanw> synaptic is giving errors when I open. says can not stat source package list etc etc etc. what could be going on?
[10:15] <siimo> frazmanw, try this in console: sudo apt-get update
[10:15] <siimo> frazmanw, tell us if you get errors
[10:15] <Kyral> Pastebin your Sources.list
[10:15] <frazmanw> siimo, lol i asked and then fixed it myself. lol. just needed the apt-get update. I tried that right after I asked. thank you
[10:15] <soundray> Friends, can you please help miki when (if) he comes back? I'm off to join a different kind of channel ;)
[10:16] <yaaar> word
[10:16] <soundray> ah, there he is. Hi miki
[10:16] <miki> soundray: thanks :) it works now
[10:16] <yaaar> anybody know why on this just-installed-and-updated breezy box the help just comes up to a blank "help topics" screen with nothing in it?
[10:16] <miki> soundray: bth, ntfs drive and floppy
[10:16] <soundray> miki, well done.
[10:17] <hunkyspunky2> hello
[10:17] <hunkyspunky2> i need some help with the installation
[10:17] <miki> soundray: althro i can acces ntfs drive only as root
[10:17] <hunkyspunky2> i was installing it..
[10:17] <hunkyspunky2> and then the power went out
[10:17] <soundray> miki, normally, the floppy module should load automatically. You can add a single line 'floppy' to /etc/modules in order to load it on every boot.
[10:17] <hunkyspunky2> while it was doing the grub installer
[10:18] <eco_> HOLA
[10:18] <yaaar> hunkyspunky2: i'd recommend starting over
[10:18] <hunkyspunky2> now i was trying to get some help...
[10:18] <hunkyspunky2> all i need to do is instll grub
[10:18] <soundray> miki, to solve the access-only-as-root problem, listen to ubotu:
[10:18] <hunkyspunky2> can anyone help
[10:18] <soundray> !ntfs
[10:18] <ubotu> well, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:18] <BradM> back = me
[10:18] <miki> !ntfs
[10:18] <BradM> !ntfs
[10:18] <hunkyspunky2> can someone help me out?
[10:18] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, put the installation cd and at the boot type rescue.
[10:19] <saik0_afk> incoming bot spam! brace for impact!
[10:19] <hunkyspunky2> what does that do?
[10:19] <yaaar> hunkyspunky2: well, i know how to install grub via some livecd or something....but the ubuntu installer is a bit weirder....like, it does a bunch of installation stuff on first boot, so i'm not sure if just installing grub will do the trick or not
[10:19] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, it will take you into a rescue mode when you are in a shell type grub-instal
[10:19] <trappist> BradM: auto away and back messages are obnoxious, especially on a channel with 650+ people
[10:20] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, if you are new to linux i would recommend you start the installation again
[10:20] <hunkyspunky2> so i type grub-instal?
[10:20] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, you need to know where you installed your system and mount it first
[10:20] <yaaar> hunkyspunky2: is there some reason you can't just start the installation again?
[10:20] <hunkyspunky2> yah
[10:20] <hunkyspunky2> it took to long
[10:20] <hunkyspunky2> and i got up to the grub installer
[10:20] <sfsa> how do i get installed the make , automake and those essential packages in one line ?
[10:21] <soundray> miki, are you all set then?
[10:21] <hunkyspunky2> so how do i mount it?
[10:21] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, why not re install again?
[10:21] <hunkyspunky2> took to long
[10:21] <hunkyspunky2> anywyas
[10:21] <psycho666>  what difference does the display manager make ? display can be run with startx only
[10:21] <hunkyspunky2> when i tpyr grub-install
[10:21] <miki> soundray: nope, but at least i solved hardest part yet... took me 2 days to find anweer, and u did it in 10 min :)
[10:22] <hunkyspunky2> does it ask me where it was installed or something/
[10:22] <gnomefreak> !grub
[10:22] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:22] <mortal5> does anyone know if the ubuntu kernel has extra stuff patched in?  Or if it's just a vanilla kernel?
[10:22] <ilba7r> hunkyspunky2, follow ubotu links
[10:22] <crimsun> mortal5: lots of extras
[10:22] <mortal5> crap
[10:22] <saik0> mortal5, theres a mentric buttload of patches
[10:22] <yaaar> man this is weird...nvidia geforce2 boards are covered under the normal linux-restricted-modules and nvidia-glx packages, right? they aren't in the legacy ones (tnt/tnt2) are they?
[10:22] <soundray> miki, sometimes you need a bit of luck.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> wonders if reading is gonna take as long as re-installing
[10:23] <gnomefreak> :)
[10:23] <miki> soundray: now i need to install my speedtech330 modem under ubntu and set up internet connection... i got cd with installation files but they got some error
[10:23] <yaaar> i just installed on a machine with a geforce 2 and installed linux-686, linux-restricted-modules-686, nvidia-glx, and nvidia-settings, ran nvidia-glx-config enable and rebooted.....no nvidia module loaded
[10:23] <miki> soundray: so im trying to download other drivers instead
[10:23] <crimsun> yaaar: gf2 requires the nvidia legacy drivers.
[10:23] <yaaar> crimsun: fair enough
[10:23] <soundray> miki, is that a USB-only modem?
[10:23] <gnomefreak> ilba7r: it doesnt take near as long as windows
[10:23] <crimsun> yaaar: it's mentioned on wiki/BinaryDriverHowto
[10:24] <hunkyspunky2> thansk
[10:24] <ilba7r> agree
[10:24] <hunkyspunky2> so i can just boot up from floppy
[10:24] <hunkyspunky2> and then it will install?
[10:24] <gnomefreak> i can have dapper adn breezy installed with all the extras that i want in under 8 hrs
[10:24] <Spec> !grub
[10:24] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[10:24] <hunkyspunky2> later
[10:24] <hunkyspunky2> going to try
[10:25] <hunkyspunky2> going to try recovering ubuntu after windows install
[10:25] <hunkyspunky2> putting it on floppy
[10:25] <zandaa> I'm having some problems with my webcam.
[10:25] <nadia007> can anyone help me?  Getting permissions denied when trying to build package using fakeroot!
[10:25] <gnomefreak> nadia007: sudo?
[10:25] <yaaar> anybody know why yelp comes up with a blank help topics screen on this newly installed breezy box?
[10:25] <miki> soundray: yes, its USB
[10:25] <nadia007> you sudo when fakeroot?
[10:25] <soundray> nadia007, put the sources in your $HOME
[10:25] <crimsun> nadia007: no, don't use sudo w/ fakeroot
[10:26] <gnomefreak> oops
[10:26] <nadia007> I thought so... that wouldn't make sense...
[10:26] <miki> soundray: install script from CD wich came from my provider with modem stops at: USBUsage: lspci (switches)
[10:26] <mortal5> So guys, If i install linux-src-2.6.10, will that be the src code to the kernel I'm running now?
[10:26] <soundray> miki, those are a pain... I hope you can get it sorted. Anyway, I have to go now.
[10:27] <Khisanth> hmm what do I need to get the man pages for things like strftime
[10:27] <zandaa> can anyone help me with my webcam, I can't get any program to recognise it
[10:27] <miki> soundray: but i googled for a bit and found out that many ppl got problems with drivers from CD wich are also old ones, so im trying to install ones from net
[10:27] <crimsun> mortal5: what do you need the source for? (linux-source-2.6.10 is for Hoary)
[10:27] <philuk86> hi ive just installed a PCI-X scsi card into my ubuntu server, how can i test too see its detected and working i dont have a scsi disk to try.
[10:27] <miki> soundray: no prolem, ur very helpful..thanks :)
[10:27] <nadia007> what would cause a permissions error when writting the package?
[10:27] <gnomefreak> Khisanth: man strftime   if that doesnt work there may not be a man page on it
[10:27] <butcherbird> zandaa: i believe there is a pretty good rundown of diff webcams at wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:27] <soundray> miki, good luck & see you on the channel.
[10:27] <mortal5> crimsun, building the stock nvidia driver, and the driver for my ivtv
[10:28] <zandaa> butcherbird, I wasn't able to find anything usefull on the wiki
[10:28] <crimsun> mortal5: you only need linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[10:28] <crimsun> mortal5: not full linux-source-2.6.X
[10:28] <erer> hello
[10:28] <siimo> hello.
[10:29] <butcherbird> zandaa: what model?
[10:29] <zandaa> butcherbird, it's a cheap sweex webcam, so I don't exactly know
[10:29] <dIS_NLS> I'm using a dual-boot config and i need Ubuntu to read from my windows ntfs partitions.. Can someone help me? (warning, total novice to linux...;) )
[10:29] <ilba7r> !ntfs
[10:29] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, totally, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:29] <Khisanth> gnomefreak: I know quite well how to access a manpage, I meant the package it would be in
[10:30] <crimsun> Khisanth: manpages-dev
[10:30] <Max-T> Hi people
[10:30] <Khisanth> crimsun: yeah, already got it
[10:30] <Max-T> Haven't been in here for quite a while
[10:30] <deber> dfgdf
[10:30] <Khisanth> now to figure out what %G isn't working
[10:31] <deber> hello
[10:31] <Max-T> Been really busy with school work and stuff and haven't had any time for my trying of Ubuntu recently :P
[10:31] <butcherbird> zandaa: never heard of em.. good luck :)
[10:31] <The_Bilge_Rat> so I managed to rewrite root into /etc/passwd which at least let me sudo to su bu tnow it gives authentication errors
[10:31] <The_Bilge_Rat> can anyone help me fix my root user?
[10:31] <miki> anyone can tell me how to add stuff to etc/modules ?
[10:31] <XiCillin> the_bilge_rat: what doe you mean?
[10:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> well I typed deluser root while I was sudo su'd
[10:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> pretty bad but I wasn;t really trying to do that
[10:32] <Max-T> Is there any way to cancel the 'testing network repository' on 'configuring apt' during the installation of Ubuntu?
[10:32] <The_Bilge_Rat> I managed to get root reinserted back in t etc/passwd
[10:32] <zandaa> butcherbird, well... I found some thing called usb0 in media, couldn't I make a temporary symbolic link to a video device?
[10:33] <yaaar> this sucks....clicking on the little help icon just gives me a blank page, so i don't have the getting started guide or anything......anybody know what's going on?
[10:33] <XiCillin> add root as auser again
[10:33] <mwep> is it possible to install ubuntu with the livecd?
[10:33] <The_Bilge_Rat> ok one sec I'll try that
[10:33] <ilba7r> zandaa, try the ubuntu wiki i know there is a page on webcam config
[10:34] <Max-T> mwep : You need the install CD (or just d/l the ISO)
[10:34] <zandaa> ilba7r, the wiki doesn't have anything usefull for me as I don't have a logitech webcam
[10:34] <siimo> mwep, no
[10:34] <GeForce> Hey guys I just installed ubuntu on my USB HD, and when my computer booted afterwards, I got the GRUB error 21....
[10:34] <GeForce> Anyone knows what that is?
[10:34] <mwep> ok
[10:34] <nofear> hey how do i add a ntfs hardrive to fstab?
[10:34] <mwep> I thought they could have left me a netinstall option...
[10:34] <nofear> i cant remember the line
[10:34] <PupenoL> I can't install any kernel, apt-get install linux-image-2.6-386 or 686 just hangs consuming lots of resources on Setting up linux-image-2.6.12-10-386 (2.6.12-10.26) ..., can anybody help me ?
[10:35] <BradM> \
[10:35] <Max-T> mwep : Just download the bootdisk for netinstall. It's only a few megs.
[10:35] <The_Bilge_Rat> think that solved it
[10:35] <The_Bilge_Rat> thanks guys and gals
[10:36] <mwep> Max-T: what if I need Dapper kernel and modules from the start
[10:36] <mwep> ?
[10:36] <GeForce> So noone knows what the ubuntu grub error 21 is? lol
[10:36] <miki> nofear: "sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt" might be good for you
[10:36] <PuMpErNiCkLe> GeForce: I don't think you do a straight install on a usb drive.
[10:36] <mattwestm> how  to I add more ram, just put it in, is there any configuration needed?
[10:36] <The_Bilge_Rat> ok so it gives me this error when I try to reset root passwd:  root@Imladras:/etc# passwd root
[10:36] <The_Bilge_Rat> passwd: Authentication service cannot retrieve authentication info.
[10:36] <xored> how to allow a user to user sudo in common ?
[10:36] <mwep> the zd1211 module isn't available in stock breezy
[10:36] <GeForce> PuMpErNiCkLe: Dang lol
[10:36] <zandaa> GeForce, I think you should install GRUB on a boot floppy if you have a floppy drive
[10:37] <mwep> but I found it available in dapper F3
[10:37] <The_Bilge_Rat> but on the plus side I can update my system with apt
[10:37] <PuMpErNiCkLe> GeForce: Possibly a minimal install on a regular drive and everything else on a USB drive?
[10:37] <GeForce> Zandaa how do I do that? lol
[10:37] <GeForce> kinda new to this whole linux stuff
[10:38] <zandaa> GeForce, I wouldn't really know either... I've been trying for ages to get GRUB out of the master boot record and onto something like a boot floppy
[10:38] <GeForce> hmmmm
[10:38] <GeForce> aiite guess ima have to split off a hard drive....
[10:38] <GeForce> aiite thanks
[10:39] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:39] <GeForce> Guess no linux for me for a while lol
[10:39] <dIS_NLS> ok now that's done... Is there a slink way to get WinXp to read my linux partition?
[10:39] <nofear> yes i know sudo mount -t ntfs /dev/hda1 /mnt would work but what i want to do
[10:39] <babelgeek> Hey guys, is there any *easy* way to connect up a bluetooth dial-up modem (via mobile phone) on Ubuntu?
[10:39] <nofear> is add it to /etc/fstab
[10:40] <joey_mth> hello. I'm having some trouble with vncserver. when I run it, I get the error "xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/joey/.Xauthority"
[10:40] <miki> nofear: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions ??
[10:40] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:40] <nofear> thanks
[10:40] <nofear> checking that site out
[10:41] <blekos> hello guys
[10:41] <blekos> i have installed both gnome & kde
[10:41] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:41] <hey> hey all
[10:42] <blekos> when I try to remove a component of KDE from synaptic, it says i should reomve the whole kde
[10:42] <blekos> ... any ideas?
[10:42] <tweek888> trappist, still there?
[10:42] <zandaa> is there a terminal command to minimize all windows?
[10:42] <trappist> tweek888: sorta
[10:42] <israel> aloja
[10:42] <ilba7r> blekos, it say it will remove kubuntu-desktop. This is not a big deal as it is a meta package.
[10:42] <israel> adsf
[10:42] <tweek888> trae, should "ubuntu" be set to 127.0.0.1?
[10:42] <joey_mth> any ideas?
[10:42] <tweek888> oops
[10:43] <tweek888> trappist*
[10:43] <hey> is there a way to transfer files from an ubuntu machine to a windows machine via ssh?pls help me
[10:43] <servant74> I keep getting messages that the Synaptic package manager can't stat package lists. ... I try updating the lists and repositories, but it keeps coming back. ... Ideas?
[10:43] <blekos> would u mind explaining?
[10:43] <pianoboy3333> hey: you have to mount the windows hd/partition
[10:43] <trappist> tweek888: if your box is called ubuntu, sure
[10:43] <tweek888> ok.
[10:44] <tweek888> :] 
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> hey: look on your desktop, is there a pic of a nother icon there?
[10:44] <tweek888> I only need one item in my /etc/hosts?
[10:44] <ilba7r> blekos, it is an apparent package (not a real one) used to install all of kde staff. You can remove it with no harm
[10:44] <jeffery> on a new install of ubuntu, what is the root password set to ? the installer didn't ask me to set a root password at all
[10:44] <babelgeek> hey: are you talking about 2 seperate machines?
[10:44] <hey> pianoboy3333:in what sense? my necessity is to trasfer files on a pc that is away from my house
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> oh
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> OH
[10:44] <blekos> thnx ilba7r :)
[10:44] <joey_mth> I don't want to spam my question over and over; if someone can help me out with a vncserver question, please let me know
[10:44] <ilba7r> :)
[10:44] <babelgeek> Jeff: there is no root user.
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> i dk then
[10:44] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:45] <MagicFab> trying to permanently mount a fat32 HD, it's always readonly, I have this in my /etc/fstab:
[10:45] <babelgeek> jeff: But you have users that are part of the admin group - you have to use sudo to execute root commands.
[10:45] <hey> babelgeek yes i m
[10:45] <MagicFab>  /dev/hdb1      /media/Data     auto    rw,user,utf8,noauto     0       0
[10:45] <Max-T> How do I change the x server size?
[10:46] <babelgeek> If you don't want to enable file sharing using SMB, you can also use the puTTY SCP proggie to transfer files using ssh scp.
[10:46] <jeffery> babelgeek, so is the default user set to have sudo permissions ?
[10:46] <mazer> hi everyone, i was wanting to know if anyone managed to run quake3 through a chroot 32bit on a x86_64 platform
[10:46] <babelgeek> Yip.
[10:46] <MagicFab> any idea why ? when using the "Disks" tool from System / Administration, it's OK but doesn' t stick
[10:46] <wpostma> Is there a web page somewhere for longtime debian users to tell them what differences to expect when trying ubuntu?
[10:46] <hey> does nobody help me?
[10:46] <lesshaste> how do I find if there are subtitles on a dvd?
[10:46] <babelgeek> jeff: to get root shell try sudo -s and type in your user password.
[10:46] <blekos> i'm a newbie, trying to make a transition exclusively to linux, if there was not for Ubuntu community I would have abandoned it, now I want to go for LPI exams at some point
[10:46] <gnomefreak> Max-T: what do you mean change the X size?
[10:47] <pianoboy3333> is there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:47] <benplaut> is there any way to decode a WEP hex key, turning it back into a passphrase?
[10:47] <lesshaste> benplaut: you mean crack WEP?
[10:47] <servant74>  I keep getting messages that the Synaptic package manager can't stat package lists. ... I try updating the lists and repositories, but it keeps coming back. ... Ideas?
[10:47] <benplaut> lesshaste: i have the key, but is there a way to get the passphrase from which it was made?
[10:48] <einPaule> Hi again... Im getting the following error in OpenOfficeBase : SQL-Status: HY000
[10:48] <einPaule> Fehler-Code: 1130
[10:48] <einPaule> null,  message from server: "Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server"
[10:48] <babelgeek> benplaut: hex is just a representation of the ascii passphrase. Same thing. Unless you mean hack it.
[10:48] <dIS_NLS> Where in ubunto do i find cd-writing software?
[10:48] <Max-T> gnomefreak : So the X size is bigger than the screen size so I only see the small bit of the screen at once but I see it like 4x the size
[10:48] <einPaule> Can someone help me set the permission?
[10:48] <joey_mth> xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/joey/.Xauthority"
[10:48] <pianoboy3333> I there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:48] <Seveas> dIS_NLS, gnomebaker, graveman, k3b..
[10:48] <gnomefreak> dIS_NLS: under sounds  in app;lications
[10:48] <babelgeek> dIS_NLS put in a blank cd...
[10:48] <Ophiocus> dIS_NLS, you could try gnome baker
[10:48] <joey_mth> I'm having some trouble with vncserver. when I run it, I get the error "xauth:  error in locking authority file /home/joey/.Xauthority"
[10:48] <benplaut> babelgeek: thanks
[10:49] <yggdrasil> does the default ubuntu install fing ona 1.8 gb drive ?
[10:49] <babelgeek> benplaut: no probs.
[10:50] <pianoboy3333> what is the new version of ubuntu going to be called?
[10:50] <jnk> Dapper
[10:50] <gnomefreak> dapper drake
[10:50] <pianoboy3333> I there a gui for dansguardian? if so, where do I download it, or are there other gui parental control programs?
[10:51] <Max-T> When's there a new version of Ubuntu?
[10:51] <Ng> april 20th
[10:51] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[10:51] <ubotu> I guess dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[10:51] <Max-T> What's different?
[10:51] <gnomefreak> Max-T: right now? ones broke the other isnt lol
[10:51] <Ng> literally some things
[10:52] <yggdrasil> does the default ubuntu install fing ona 1.8 gb drive ?2
[10:52] <Mias>  whats this: dpkg: syntax error: unknown user `hplip' in statusoverride file?
[10:52] <yggdrasil> uh fit even
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Max-T: its making a fair turn around
[10:52] <siimo> dapper is going to be supported for 3 yrs instead of 18 months so it will be stable and ideal for massive deployments as you will keep getting security patches
[10:52] <Max-T> gnomefreak can you help me?
[10:52] <Max-T> I'm traying to get the X size to be bigger than the screen
[10:52] <gnomefreak> Max-T: i asked you what you meant
[10:53] <gnomefreak> Max-T: do you mean screen resolution?
[10:53] <Max-T> Yeah
[10:53] <dIS_NLS> Do i need a plugin for mp3-files?
[10:53] <gnomefreak> system>prefferences>screen resolution
[10:53] <PuMpErNiCkLe> pianoboy3333: http://www.dageek.co.uk/ipcop/addonz/dansgui.htm
[10:54] <Max-T> What I want to do is to have X much larger than the screen so I only see a few inches of the screen at once but it's like 4x the size and when I move the cursor I see more of the screen
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Max-T: that i cant help you with i dont know anything about that
[10:54] <Dreamglider> nice*
[10:55] <gnomefreak> i tend to like everything on screen at once :(
[10:55] <Max-T> That's fine for most people, but for those of us who are blind it's not so easy
[10:55] <pianoboy3333> PuMpErNiCkLeL: i downloaded the tar, how do i install it?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> Max-T: there is a program for that
[10:55] <gnomefreak> im thinking of name
[10:55] <dIS_NLS> I can only use 1024*768 at the most. Isn't it possible to get atleast 1024*1280?
[10:55] <gnomefreak> its gnometics?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> no
[10:56] <Max-T> gnopernicus
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Max-T: thats it
[10:56] <Max-T> With gnopernicus you get a tiny magnification window covering a part of the screen which sucks
[10:56] <pianoboy3333> PuMpErNiCkLeL: i downloaded the tar, how do i install it?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> Max-T: sorry i dont know of anything than :(
[10:57] <Max-T> But apparantly you can make it so X things you have two monitors and the magnification takes up the whole of the second monitor but it is only a virtual monitor so in effect you get full screen magnification
[10:57] <yggdrasil> 1
[10:57] <gnomefreak> make takes too long :(
[10:58] <Dreamglider> what's the diffrence between SDRAM and DDR RAM ?
[10:59] <Max-T> DDR RAM is faster
[10:59] <s_v_e_n> the MAin Differece is the speed
[10:59] <Dreamglider> ok
[10:59] <gnomefreak> and price
[10:59] <no_gatez_fan> sdram they used to approx the 1 gig mhz era, and ddr was after and still used
[10:59] <Max-T> Yeah SDRAM is a lot more expensive (cause nobody buys it)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> i know :(
[11:00] <gnomefreak> 128mb for me is like 80 usd
[11:00] <butcherbird> ive got a shoebox full of sdram..
[11:00] <s_v_e_n> Does anyone have a ATI Radeon 9200 working with breesy ???
[11:00] <Max-T> All my computers now take DDR
[11:00] <Max-T> Well two of them take DDR2
[11:00] <butcherbird> if you know anyone is desperate i take paypal :)
[11:00] <gnomefreak> lol butcherbird
[11:01] <abood> guys, i tried to mount the cp's partions in fstab conf file but didnt worked, any body got the correct commands for both NTFS and Fat32 ? and how to restart fstab without restarting the machine
[11:01] <gnomefreak> s_v_e_n: nope sorry gave up on that one but mine was 7200
[11:01] <abood> guys, i tried to mount the *xp's partions in fstab conf file but didnt worked, any body got the correct commands for both NTFS and Fat32 ? and how to restart fstab without restarting the machine
[11:01] <Dreamglider> s_v_e_n, i have a 9800pro wirks fine
[11:01] <Dreamglider> works*
[11:01] <jnk> abood, do you know what the partitions are? (like /dev/hda2...)
[11:01] <einPaule> can someone help me set up privileges for localhost.localdomain in mysql?
[11:01] <abood> jnk,  yes dude
[11:01] <s_v_e_n> i had 9100 before, thas was working too.
[11:02] <jnk> abood, what lines did you use?
[11:02] <jnk> abood, (in fstab)
[11:02] <tech9iner> so uMates..
[11:02] <abood> jnk, /dev/hda1	/media/C	-t ntfs	-o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[11:02] <abood> /dev/hda3	/media/D -t vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000
[11:02] <tech9iner> reading 'Here are some Benchmark results between Wine and Windows XP' http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5
[11:03] <zandaa> hey guys??? if I create a symbolic link from like /media/usb0 (webcam) to /dev/video1, would it be temporary or permanent?
[11:03] <PuMpErNiCkLe> zandaa: It would exist until you removed it.
[11:03] <tech9iner> ?? help this ADD-addled, non logical.. right-sided-2-extremez! brain o mine..
[11:03] <zandaa> PuMpErNiCkLe how would I remove it?
[11:03] <Ng> zandaa: the symlink will stay until you delete it, but I don't think you want to symlink a mountpoint to what should be a device node
[11:04] <abood> jnk, any idea ?
[11:04] <tech9iner> riddle me this.. why would one be benchmarkg tween an os, xp.. and wine an emulator again please?.. im missn somethin somewhere rofl
[11:04] <zandaa> Ng, device node?
[11:04] <Dreamglider> what would be best for ubuntu 384Mb pc100 or 256Mb pc133 or 128Mb pc2100 ?(what would you folks go with?)
[11:04] <jnk> abood, in fstab you don't give options by prepending a dash, rather use a line like: /dev/hda1 /media/C ntfs nls=utf8,umask=0222 0 0
[11:04] <crimsun> Dreamglider: the former
[11:04] <CanYouHelpMePlz> damn, smoked out and tokedo ut
[11:04] <crimsun> Dreamglider: more RAM definitely helps on an older machine
[11:04] <crimsun> Dreamglider: err, that's RAM, sorry I thought those were machine specs
[11:04] <Max-T> Dreamylider : Most computers won't take PC100/133 nowadays if they've got recent mobos
[11:04] <jean> hi
[11:05] <will2003> I'm a linux noob, just installed ubunto: great OS.
[11:05] <Ng> zandaa: things in /dev/ are usually special files that relate to a kernel driver
[11:05] <jean> hi
[11:05] <PuMpErNiCkLe> hi
[11:05] <Ng> zandaa: things in /media/ are just directories where storage media gets mounted
[11:05] <Dreamglider> The Mobo is a good one(fore it's time) it's a Asus CUBX
[11:05] <will2003> Now: I nee help installing skype
[11:05] <zandaa> Ng, but my webcam is mounted as usb0 in media, because of my iPod earlier I think...
[11:05] <Max-T> Does it take SDRAM or DDR RAM?
[11:05] <jnk> abood, then to mount all filesystems listed in /etc/fstab which are not marked "noauto", use "sudo mount -a"
[11:05] <jean> how do you convert raw avi to swf?
[11:06] <Max-T> Not many mobos (other than some of the cheap ones in the SDRAM/DDR RAM change ) will take both
[11:06] <zandaa> jean, I don't think you can
[11:06] <Ng> zandaa: it's very unusual for a webcam to be mounted - is it one that can work as a digital camera too or something like that?
[11:06] <abood> jnk, does the tabing between options make diffrence in fstab ?
[11:06] <zandaa> Ng, no it isn't... but since my iPod got placed in fstab automatically...
[11:06] <zandaa> Ng, and isn't connected now
[11:06] <jean> zandaa: do you know anything about mencoder?
[11:06] <jnk> abood, no any spaces and tabs counts like one blank (unless I'm wrong)
[11:06] <abood> jnk, mean between words
[11:06] <zandaa> jean, no
[11:07] <jean> zandaa: transcode?
[11:07] <jean> mplayer
[11:07] <Ng> zandaa: the ipod and the webcam are unrelated
[11:07] <zandaa> jean, I've never encoded videos before
[11:07] <Ng> zandaa: could you maybe paste the output of "mount" to a pastebin?
[11:07] <zandaa> Ng, the output of mount?
[11:07] <blocky> can someone help me figure out why i am having random procs stop responding
[11:07] <Ng> zandaa: yeah, open a terminal and type "mount" and hit enter, it will list the currently mounted devices
[11:07] <hey> is there a way to trasfer files from an ubuntu pc to a windows pc via ssh?
[11:08] <blocky> i cant even kill -9 as root
[11:08] <Dreamglider> Max-T, SD ram fore sure i dont know about DDR i'll have to test it
[11:08] <abood> jnk, its tells me when i mount that fstab is bad in line 11 that conatins this (/dev/hda3 /media/D vfat -o iocharset=utf8,umask=000)
[11:08] <jnk> hey, use scp
[11:08] <Max-T> DDR RAM is bigger than SDRAM
[11:08] <abood> jnk, whats the wrong with this line ?
[11:08] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tech9iner: Wine Is Not an Emulator :)
[11:08] <Ng> hey: scp, you'll need to make sure you have the ssh server installed on your ubuntu box
[11:08] <butcherbird> hey: sftp... for windows client maybe try winscp
[11:08] <will2003> Alright i downloaded skype to my desktop now how do i install it
[11:08] <jnk> hey, err no use sftp actually
[11:08] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell will2003 about skype
[11:08] <zandaa> Ng, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7425
[11:09] <zandaa> Ng, it doesn't seem to show the usb thing
[11:09] <franclim> j alem_da_magia
[11:09] <tech9iner> PuMpErNiCkLe: fair nuff.. wtf is it then?.. does it qualify as full os then?
[11:09] <Ng> zandaa: indeed, which is good. also do a quick "ls /dev/video*" - does it list anything?
[11:09] <hey> jnk Ng can be scp usefull to tranfer file from my ubuntu box (here im chatting) to a win box away from my house?
[11:09] <jnk> abood, don't put this "-o"
[11:09] <pinkisntwell>  i'm looking into buying a new gfx card and I was wondering if ati's linux support has gotten any better, should I get an ati?
[11:09] <franclim> exit
[11:09] <jnk> abood, and you may have to put " 0 0" at the end
[11:09] <trappist> pinkisntwell: nvidia 4 life
[11:09] <abood> jnk, thax for ur effort :)
[11:09] <blocky> somebody help me
[11:10] <zandaa> Ng, /dev/video0 and /dev/video1 (guess video1 is my webcam)
[11:10] <will2003> oops
[11:10] <blocky> my linux is behaving worse than windows :(
[11:10] <trappist> pinkisntwell: it has gotten better, sort of, but still give me nvidia any day
[11:10] <Ng> hey: not so easily, but you could use the windows file sharing (Network Servers in the Places menu)
[11:10] <will2003> :o
[11:10] <blocky> why cant i kill this process
[11:10] <philuk86> pinkisntwell: not so you would notice
[11:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tech9iner: It's a rewrite of Windows system libraries and API that can work as a translation layer between a .exe file and a non-windows OS.
[11:10] <abood> jnk, working :)
[11:10] <jnk> blocky,  what processes?
[11:10] <jnk> abood, cool!
[11:10] <blocky> ifconfig has done it
[11:10] <pinkisntwell> philuk86: why?
[11:10] <blocky> sudo has done it
[11:10] <blocky> xine has done it
[11:10] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tech9iner: More or less.
[11:10] <Ng> zandaa: well that suggests you have two devices capable of outputting video, so I suggest you don't need to make a symlink :)
[11:10] <Gunfus> hello
[11:10] <blocky> i cant even kill it as root
[11:10] <seele96> hello guys, whats the equivalent of editing the msconfig or autoexect.bat in linux. My goal is to automatically mount my ntfs partition and start gaim on startup.
[11:10] <gnomefreak> blocky: what process
[11:10] <hey> Ng too hard. my friend who's using win box couldnt be able to do taht
[11:10] <zandaa> Ng, srry for all the time I've wasted, this is the first time using my webcam on Ubuntu
[11:10] <blocky> xine right now
[11:11] <jnk> blocky, I've had non-killable processes in case of IO errors
[11:11] <Gunfus> is there any easy way of removing Kubuntus and just leaving GUbuntus on it.?
[11:11] <philuk86> pinkisntwell: lets just say nvidia is the way to go.
[11:11] <butcherbird> blocky: try kill -9 1234
[11:11] <gnomefreak> did you try killallxine?
[11:11] <Ng> zandaa: not a problem :)
[11:11] <gnomefreak> with a space
[11:11] <blocky> i did kill -9
[11:11] <blocky> as root
[11:11] <Ng> blocky: do you have any NFS shares mounted?
[11:11] <blocky> nope
[11:11] <pinkisntwell> i can find ati's cheaper that's why I'm asking
[11:11] <blocky> this stuff started happening when i was messing around with vmware
[11:11] <blocky> but im not running it at all right now
[11:11] <jaek> i installed windows after installing gentoo... how can i use the install CD to boot so i can install grub as the MBR again?
[11:11] <zandaa> Ng, or could they both be my tv card??? (it has TV-in, S-video in and composite in)
[11:11] <Thug-N-Me> why its my machine now slower then it was when i had a fresh install system ? i just reboot and now my machine its getting slower, take`s a bit long to boot then before , any application i open its a bit slower then before ..
[11:11] <Ng> blocky: aha
[11:12] <jaek> s/gentoo/ubuntu/
[11:12] <Gunfus> is there any easy way of removing Kubuntus and just leaving GUbuntus on it.?
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> ubotu: tell jaek about grub
[11:12] <abood> jnk, got any idea how can i make my resolution to run at 1152 x 864 but not 1280 x 720,  ?
[11:12] <tech9iner> PuMpErNiCkLe: dayamn!.. quite nicely an succinctly put chap.. spot on! rofl so riddle me THIs then ;] ] .. whose 'NiCkLe' are'ya 'PuMp'n' then?.. wink wink.. ty 4 feedback fwiw chum ;] 
[11:12] <jnk> jaek, you can boot from the cd and use a chroot
[11:12] <gnomefreak> gubuntu?
[11:12] <Thug-N-Me> is there any package i might remove ?
[11:12] <Ng> zandaa: that's unlikely, they tend to push all of their inputs through a single interface. I reckon video1 will be your webcam. if you want to test that, install something like xawtv and run it on each of the devices (see it's -c option I think)
[11:12] <jaek> PuMpErNiCkLe, thanks
[11:12] <bjv> gnubuntu :)
[11:12] <isodude> hey, I was figuring, is it bad if lspci | grep AGP doesn\t return anything_
[11:12] <mazer> hi everyone, i was wanting to know if anyone managed to run quake3 through a chroot 32bit on a x86_64 platform
[11:12] <PuMpErNiCkLe> gnubuntu? O_o
[11:12] <isodude> ?
[11:12] <Gunfus> gubuntus.. is the Gunfus version of Ubuntus.. :P is gnome
[11:12] <bjv> :)
[11:12] <jnk> abood, this is not an option in Desktop->Preferences->Resolution I guess?
[11:13] <zandaa> Ng, but using xawtv /dev/video1 gives me black
[11:13] <Ng> blocky: chances are some part of vmware is still partly running, like possibly its kernel modules or something. things will only refuse to die from a kill -9 if they are doing something in the kernel and get stuck
[11:13] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: sudo apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[11:13] <gnomefreak> or kde whatever you installed
[11:13] <blocky> vmnet is still loaded
[11:13] <blocky> how can i force it to unload
[11:13] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, okay
[11:13] <isodude> got a abit kv80 mobo with via k8t800 chipset..
[11:13] <bjv> blocky: pkill -KILL ?
[11:13] <abood> jnk,  yes but that resolution is not labeled there, i want to do it by my self because 1280x 1024 gettiny my eyes out
[11:13] <isodude> but it doesnt find any agp in lspci :(
[11:14] <blocky> no i mean the module
[11:14] <mazer> sudo /etc/init.d/vmware stop blocky
[11:14] <blocky> root@vanquish:/home/blocky# rmmod vmnet
[11:14] <blocky> ERROR: Module vmnet is in use
[11:14] <Gunfus> kubuntus-desktop not found..
[11:14] <bjv> blocky: modprobe?
[11:14] <Gunfus> what..!?
[11:14] <ufk> i can't connect to us.archive.ubuntu.com, what other mirror i can use?
[11:14] <Ng> zandaa: hmm, try running "udevinfo -a -p /class/video4linux/video1" - that will show you which devices are involved in making that device
[11:14] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: kubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <gnomefreak> no s
[11:14] <bjv> blocky: oh, it is in use
[11:14] <jnk> abood, you can try editing /etc/X11/xorg.conf , and in all the resolution lines, leave nothing but the resolution you want. I worked for me once, but I no longer need that
[11:14] <blocky> what can i do to stop it?
[11:15] <Thug-N-Me> any ideea guys ?
[11:15] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, sorry i did a typo in xchat.. I actually tried kubuntu-dekstop.. and it said.. not installed
[11:15] <Thug-N-Me> why its my machine now slower then it was when i had a fresh install system ? i just reboot and now my machine its getting slower, take`s a bit long to boot then before , any application i open its a bit slower then before ..
[11:15] <bjv> blocky: if modprobe -r doesnt do it, ive got no clue
[11:15] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: why do you think its installed?
[11:15] <Rayen> Hi, how do I reinstall GRUB on my PC? My MBR was damaged...
[11:16] <Ng> blocky: if it's already in use you're pretty much stuffed now that things have started to lock up. Maybe starting vmware properly will unfreeze it, but really your best bet now is to disable it so it won't start again and reboot :/
[11:16] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, because I have a bunge of K stuff on my applications menu on gnome
[11:16] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell Rayen about grub
[11:16] <blocky> k
[11:16] <blocky> i found this running
[11:16] <abood> jnk, let me try that :), i was remmber that there is a way to restart xorg without also restarting the machine ?
[11:16] <blocky> root      8317  0.0  0.0   1408   280 ?        D    Jan19   0:00 /usr/bin/vmnet-netifup -d /var/run/vmnet-netifup-vmnet8.pid /dev/vmnet8 vmnet8
[11:16] <ufk> can anyone please give me an ubuntu mirror to put in sources.list?
[11:16] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: try sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:16] <bjv> blocky: well there you go
[11:16] <Gunfus> nop
[11:17] <tech9iner> btw fwiw PuMpErNiCkLe .. http://wiki.winehq.org/BenchMark-0.9.5 twould seem then that wine developers are running windBLOWzXP better'n xp then eh? ;] 
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: sudo apt-get remove --purge kde
[11:17] <isodude> anyone with via k8m800 chipset here?
[11:17] <jnk> abood, I think xorg restarts when you logout. If it's not the case you can do "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart" or "sudo invoke-rcd.d gdm stop" followed by "sudo invoke-rc.d gdm start"
[11:17] <Ng> ufk: any two letter country code will work, so ca for canada might be worth trying
[11:17] <isodude> k8t800*
[11:17] <Gunfus> nop
[11:17] <s_v_e_n> breasy: Client can't connect to X-server
[11:17] <s_v_e_n> client $ X -query ip-of-Xserver
[11:17] <s_v_e_n> gives on server:
[11:17] <s_v_e_n> kdm[10467] : Unknown session exit code 0 (sig 11) from manager process
[11:17] <PuMpErNiCkLe> tech9iner: When they can keep it running, yes. ;)
[11:17] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: it doesnt seem like its installed
[11:17] <abood> jnk, really thanks sir :)
[11:18] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: try sudo apt-get remove --purge kde-base
[11:18] <blocky> k
[11:18] <F43RY> HI, all, I've a problem with apache 2 that drives me crazy. Can someone spend a minute for me?
[11:18] <kent> Thug-N-Me, your perception of time has changed? :)
[11:18] <blocky> lets see if i got it all
[11:18] <jnk> abood, but I doubt it will work :)
[11:18] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, hmm then I wonder what are all the K stuff that I have.. grr. am I going to have to remove then by hand
[11:18] <Thug-N-Me> kent ahh shut up
[11:18] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, it couldn't find kde-base
[11:18] <ilba7r> gunfus try aptitude
[11:18] <ilba7r> sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:18] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, are you using ubuntu or kubuntu?
[11:19] <ilba7r> it will search for unused packages for you
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: ok try logging out adn than log in to kde from the sessions menu on the log-in screen
[11:19] <Thug-N-Me> jnk ubuntu
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ilba7r: isnt that only if he installed it with aptitude?
[11:19] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, okay.. I will give that a try.. and let you know later I can't log out right now :(
[11:19] <F43RY> i've never had this kind of problem before. I'm using ubuntu breezy
[11:19] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, did you install any daemon/server/service/session program or something ?
[11:19] <Ng> F43RY: ask away, if we can help, we will :)
[11:19] <mortal5> hey guys, i need to disabled gdm and install some nvidia drivers
[11:19] <Thug-N-Me> jnk yeah proftd , apache2 and mysql
[11:19] <ilba7r> gnomefreak, sometimes it works with apt sometimes not no harm to try
[11:19] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: try ilba7r idea before you try that
[11:19] <F43RY> ok
[11:20] <Gunfus> okay
[11:20] <gnomefreak> ilba7r: hell why not tried everything else :)
[11:20] <jnk> mortal5, what do you mean "disable gdm" ?
[11:20] <F43RY> since yesterday I can't see the .png image on my site in my lan.
[11:20] <ilba7r> :)
[11:20] <Gunfus> that didn't work either..
[11:20] <F43RY> Til yesterday all worked fine
[11:20] <mortal5> I need to install the stock nvidia driver, which means that x can't be running
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: i dont think its installed
[11:20] <antisocial_boris> how can i configure grub to let me boot into slack as well as ubuntu?
[11:20] <F43RY> i didn't touch anything, especially configuration fil
[11:21] <mortal5> which means that I need to stop gdm for a lil bit and get down to a console
[11:21] <Thug-N-Me> jnk aint no matter is it ?
[11:21] <tech9iner> ahh.. so.. implication would be wine isnt always stable as a rock then eh PuMpErNiCkLe ;] 
[11:21] <gnomefreak> i think you just have left-over apps installed do any of the K apps work in gnome?
[11:21] <jnk> mortal5, x can be running, but you'll have to restart x to start using nvidia drivers
[11:21] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, would be possible that is because I change the respositories sometime ago..?
[11:21] <Ng> F43RY: what happens when you try to load a png? and are you using an old Internet Explorer that doesn't support pngs?
[11:21] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, yes they do
[11:21] <butcherbird> mortal5: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[11:21] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: what do you mean you changed them?
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: kubuntu and ubuntu use same repos iirc
[11:22] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, well I was tryuing to enable universe.. but I had problems and I then had to regenerate the repository config file
[11:22] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, I would not expect a slowdown from those programs, except a slight one at boot time. Unless someone is actively using one of those services :)
[11:22] <F43RY> No, i tried on an old win 98 client, on the server with ubuntu and on a xp client
[11:22] <F43RY> I've the same problem everywhere
[11:22] <Thug-N-Me> jnk no , they not
[11:22] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: can you paste your /etc/apt/sources.list file to pastebin please
[11:22] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, right.. obb by the way .. I have Ubuntus.. and then I did a apt-get gnome-desktop or whatever it was
[11:23] <Gunfus> !pastebin
[11:23] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:23] <F43RY> when I try to load a .png image I see a square with tha "alt" string inside
[11:23] <Thug-N-Me> jnk and even if it should be slow , using the apache or downloading stuff from ftp server doesnt have to make my machine slower
[11:23] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, does the cpu or disk monitors show activity?
[11:23] <F43RY> My site is a postnuke portal on an intranet
[11:23] <topyli> gnomefreak, Gunfus: there is a difference: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main #KDE 3.5 for Breezy
[11:23] <nine09> thanks
[11:23] <nine09> :)\
[11:23] <gnomefreak> topyli: that is a kde repo not a offical one
[11:24] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, well 100 simultaneous dowloads could I think
[11:24] <gnomefreak> the main and uni and multi are the same
[11:24] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, depends on many factors though
[11:24] <F43RY> I've just tried unsuccessfully to load a single image .png from a stand alone file
[11:24] <topyli> gnomefreak: official or not, it's for kubuntu and it's new :)
[11:24] <nine09> ubuntu is really friendly, it even saved me from having to buy partition magic
[11:24] <gnomefreak> topyli: i have it on ubuntu :)
[11:24] <Thug-N-Me> jnk well 100`s :)
[11:24] <Gunfus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7426
[11:24] <tech9iner> honestly chapz.. perhaps on me oldest most obsolete lappys i loadup os's on and then sell on ebay.. i.e.: panasonic toughbooks Pll 266/64 or 128ram that maybe unbuntu running xfce4 or fluxbox would be best over loading up even lean version of kubuntu eh?.. any/all feedback appreciated muchly..
[11:24] <gnomefreak> it would not cause his issue if he just added it tho
[11:24] <F43RY> I've checked /etc/apache2/apache2.conf file but all seem to be ok
[11:24] <jnk> Thug-N-Me, what ?
[11:25] <topyli> gnomefreak: right, doesn't matter really if you install ubuntu or kubuntu
[11:25] <F43RY> I researched this inconvenience on the net but I didn't find anything about
[11:25] <gnomefreak> topyli: you might have something
[11:25] <will2003> How do i install a program using synapic
[11:25] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: did you have the kubuntu 3.5 repo in your list when you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[11:26] <einPaule> Hi, sorry for being a pain in the arse, but can anyone tell me how to install MySQL Connector/J ... Can I do it through apt-get install, cant find it in Synaptic?
[11:26] <will2003> mmm
[11:26] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, I don't recall unfortunatly..
[11:26] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: go to easysource and add just the kubuntu repo
[11:26] <jnk> will2003, you check pacakges for installation then perss "Apply" or something like that
[11:26] <bjv> anyone here _use a USB wireless card with their ubuntu system?
[11:26] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[11:26] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[11:26] <bjv> im looking to buy one.
[11:27] <gnomefreak> than save apt-get update
[11:27] <lodxcol> hi
[11:27] <F43RY> What should I try to do?
[11:27] <lodxcol> im having a big problem
[11:27] <abood> jnk, didnt work :(
[11:27] <PuMpErNiCkLe> einPaule: Is libmysql-java the package you're looking for?
[11:27] <lodxcol> really really big poblem
[11:27] <tech9iner> anyone seen any simple n clear reference url'z out there for old lean powered laptops using ubuntu install base please?.. thanks
[11:27] <lucasvo> lodxcol: the informaiton you give, isn't very useful
[11:27] <lucasvo> lodxcol: WHAT is your problem?
[11:27] <abood> jnk, i removed every resolution else 1150x864 n wont work
[11:27] <jnk> abood, not too surprised... you may have a look at the file /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[11:28] <abood> aha
[11:28] <rapha> tech9iner: ubuntuforums.org has quite some ... do you have any problem in particular?
[11:28] <butcherbird> tech9iner: prob better off installing xubuntu..
[11:28] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, is it fair if I add it manually?
[11:28] <gnomefreak> just paste it into your list dont type it please
[11:28] <Rayen> gnomefreak grub-install /dev/hda <-- my linux is on /dev/hda3 do i have to type grub-install /dev/hda3 (1st harddisk)
[11:28] <einPaule> PuMpErNiCkLe, no, Ive got that installed... probably some bad reference in a random Internet site...
[11:29] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, yea.. I just paste it.. :D
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: save than sudo apt-get update
[11:29] <Gunfus> si whatever topli said: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main #KDE 3.5 for Breezy
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Rayen: i dont know i dont mess around with grub anymore
[11:29] <lodxcol> when i start up the boot stops at "waiting for newtowrk interface to come up. it sits there, then after a while fails and something after that fails also, but it goes away too quick for me to see. anyway after it fails, it brings me to tty1 and i cant switch to tty7. i have initng set up, to reduce my boot time , and can successfully boot with that, but not normal boot. did initng mess with the init scripts? if so how can i fix
[11:29] <lodxcol>  it?
[11:29] <einPaule> But Im trying to get OOo-Base to work with my JDBC and MySQL but he tells me  com.mysql.jdbc.Driver could not be found
[11:29] <wfx> hello :-)
[11:29] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: thats fine let me know when update is done running
[11:30] <Gunfus> gnoeit just finished..
[11:30] <Gunfus> I will paste the output
[11:30] <jnk> Rayen, I think you leave it to /dev/hda if you want grub as your main boot manager
[11:30] <Gunfus> !pastebin
[11:30] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:30] <abood> jnk,  dude really idont understood anything from this log :)
[11:30] <wfx> is there a way to compile the basic ubuntu system against uclibc ?
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: im not worried about the gpg errors
[11:30] <jeffery> I am using the update manager (synaptic) to update my system after a fresh install and its stuck at "setting up linux-image-2.6.12...." for the last 10 minutes... how do I know if its hung or just doing its job
[11:30] <lodxcol>  when i start up the boot stops at "waiting for newtowrk interface to come up. it sits there, then after a while fails and something after that fails also, but it goes away too quick for me to see. anyway after it fails, it brings me to tty1 and i cant switch to tty7. i have initng set up, to reduce my boot time , and can successfully boot with that, but not normal boot. did initng mess with the init scripts? if so how can i fix
[11:30] <lodxcol>  it?
[11:31] <Gunfus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7427
[11:31] <rapha> wfx: I'd try that with Linux From Scratch first. It's a pretty daunting task.
[11:31] <gnomefreak> jeffery: give it more time
[11:31] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, okay
[11:31] <jeffery> gnomefreak, thanks I'll try to be a bit more patient :)
[11:31] <jnk> abood, send it to me... (elendur@freesurf.ch)
[11:31] <Gunfus> nothing man..
[11:31] <lodxcol>  when i start up the boot stops at "waiting for newtowrk interface to come up. it sits there, then after a while fails and something after that fails also, but it goes away too quick for me to see. anyway after it fails, it brings me to tty1 and i cant switch to tty7. i have initng set up, to reduce my boot time , and can successfully boot with that, but not normal boot. did initng mess with the init scripts? if so how can i fix
[11:31] <lodxcol>  it?
[11:31] <Gunfus> oh well forget it..
[11:31] <lucasvo> lodxcol: revert to a backup
[11:31] <Gunfus> is okay
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: that error is normal for that repo
[11:31] <wfx> rapha: i do it with gentoo but it would be nice to have ubuntu for small systems
[11:31] <lodxcol> whats that mean?
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: did you remove kde?
[11:31] <lucasvo> lodxcol: stop pasting the questions 2 times
[11:32] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, I tried sudo apt-get remove --purge kubuntu-desktop but that didn't work either
[11:32] <lucasvo> lodxcol: if you don't know what you are doing, don't mess with the boot script
[11:32] <abood> jnk, sure just a min
[11:32] <Gunfus> kde didn't work either
[11:32] <gnomefreak> try it with aptitude
[11:32] <lodxcol> ok so how do i fix it
[11:32] <tech9iner> butcherbird: xubuntu?.. hmm.. mighty but lite ubuntu flavor eh?.. ty! ;] 
[11:32] <gnomefreak> sudo aptitude remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:32] <rapha> wfx: Well, I suggested reading LFS so you get a deeper understanding of what is going on so that you can figure out how to apply it on Ubuntu.
[11:32] <lucasvo> lodxcol: read the syslogs (/var/log/..) and try to find out, whats working
[11:32] <lucasvo> or not
[11:33] <lodxcol> ok?
[11:33] <Gunfus> trying
[11:33] <gigi> salve a tutti
[11:33] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: if that doesnt work try rebooting when you get a chance and on the log-in screen pick kde under sessions
[11:33] <abood> jnk, chekc ur email
[11:33] <tech9iner> rapha: ty chum.. just seeking leanest n most efficient flavor of ubuntu on weak obsolete ole lappys is goal vs problems specifically.. ty 4 input guv ;] ] 
[11:34] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, aptitude game a different output this time
[11:34] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: can you paste it to pastebin please
[11:34] <mortal5> ok guys, I have a problem.  most of ubuntu is compiled with gcc-4.0, but the kernel is compiled with 3.4
[11:34] <Gunfus> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7428
[11:34] <Misnix-afk> lodxcol, for starters check if your network cable is connected ok
[11:34] <mortal5> how do i tell the nvidia module to compile with 3.4
[11:35] <trappist> mortal5: CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 sh NVI......sh
[11:35] <jnk> abood, are you using a dell laptop?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> mortal5: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[11:35] <trappist> gnomefreak: that won't help him
[11:35] <abood> jnk, no desktop 2400
[11:35] <trappist> mortal5: or export CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[11:35] <mortal5> oh, u have to specify the whole path
[11:35] <antisocial_boris> can someone help me reconfigure grub to dual boot with slack?
[11:35] <pinpoint> why is it when i do sudo i get 'unable to lookup miranda via gethostbyname()' ?
[11:35] <mortal5> j got it
[11:35] <rapha> tech9iner: what do the words "ty", "chum" and "guv" mean?
[11:35] <lodxcol> it is
[11:36] <to2> join #ubuntu.de
[11:36] <gnomefreak> trappist: oh sorry i didnt see him say he had it and needed it enabled
[11:36] <adam__> anybody knows how to burn cd
[11:36] <adam__> anybody help
[11:36] <adam__> teach how to burn cd
[11:36] <jnk> abood, and your screen is an LCD with a physical resolution of 1152x864 ?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: ok thats not that bad of a sign now try it with aptitude remove --purge
[11:36] <lodxcol> fuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuckfuck
[11:36] <holba> pinpoint, is miranda the name of your box?
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell lodxcol about coc
[11:37] <pinpoint> holba, hostname that i typed during install
[11:37] <wfx> rapha: LFS is nice and very good to learn for building a hole gnu system, but i dont want do reinvent the wheel ;-)
[11:37] <jnk> adam__, what kind of cd ?
[11:37] <rapha> tech9iner: anyway, I'd also recommend xubuntu for systems like the one you're describing. Except if you're not interested in any kind of graphical user interface, in which case you would just do a plain base installation.
[11:37] <Gunfus> you mean "sudo aptitude purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <Gunfus> "
[11:37] <zed> vive ubuntu
[11:37] <mauro> alguien habla el puto idioma espaol?
[11:37] <abood> jnk,  nop just a dell screen 17 'inc', with 1024 x 786 resolution working to 1280 x 1024
[11:37] <Gunfus> !es
[11:37] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:37] <zed> si amigo
[11:37] <rapha> wfx: true. But you need to get an understanding of what you're about to do. I only said to _read_ LFS ;-)
[11:37] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: sudo sptitude remove --purge kubuntu-desktop
[11:37] <holba> pinpoint, then check it isn't missing in /etc/hosts
[11:37] <mauro> bien
[11:37] <lodxcol> ubotu tell gnomefreak about coc
[11:37] <mauro> de mas
[11:37] <mauro> ahora, de que hablamos?
[11:38] <holba> pinpoint, and make sure the loopback device is up
[11:38] <zed> que passa mauro ?
[11:38] <mauro> sos peruano?
[11:38] <trappist> mauro: /join #ubuntu-es
[11:38] <Gunfus> !es
[11:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:38] <gnomefreak> lodxcol: read it and obide by it your language is uncalled for
[11:38] <lusus> lol
[11:38] <lodxcol> ubotu tell gnomefreak and tell him to go poop
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !ops
[11:38] <ubotu> from memory, ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[11:38] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, that command doesn't work man
[11:38] <jnk> abood, and what resolution did you say you're using now ?
[11:38] <panoramix46> per favore questo canale  frequentato da chi parla italiano?
[11:38] <ubuntu_> Hi all
[11:38] <panoramix46> grazie
[11:38] <zed> en tout cas felicitation pour la stabilit de la ubuntu
[11:38] <gnomefreak> !it
[11:38] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[11:38] <trappist> panoramix46: #ubuntu-it
[11:38] <abood> jnk, 1280 x 1024
[11:38] <nalioth> gnomefreak: what's up?
[11:39] <gnomefreak> lodxcol: has a problem
[11:39] <lucasvo> lodxcol: if you don't stop, you will get kicked
[11:39] <pinpoint> holba, yes
[11:39] <pinpoint> its missing
[11:39] <ilba7r> Gunfus, it is aptitude
[11:39] <zed> quelqu'un s'y connait en administration debian ???
[11:39] <panoramix46> grazie mille o meglio thank you very much
[11:39] <lucasvo> !fr
[11:39] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:39] <Gunfus> !fr
[11:39] <holba> pinpoint, then add it to the line that starts 127.0.0.1
[11:39] <zed> thanx !
[11:39] <panoramix46> join #ubuntu-it
[11:39] <lucasvo> panoramix46: he is FRENCH
[11:39] <lucasvo> :P
[11:39] <trappist> panoramix46: /join #ubuntu-it
[11:40] <lucasvo> not an Italian, some people get really angry about it
[11:40] <Gunfus> ilba7r, gnomefreak the problem is that there isn;t a remove --purge.. aptitute doesn't like that
[11:40] <pinpoint> holba, i get a warning everytime gnome comes up
[11:40] <lodxcol> i have a big problem and idk how to fis it
[11:40] <lodxcol> fix*
[11:40] <pinpoint> about editing the /etc/hosts
[11:40] <trappist> Gunfus: apt-get, not aptitude
[11:40] <pinpoint> thats why i took miranda out
[11:40] <gnomefreak> trappist: we tried apt-get
[11:40] <ilba7r> Gunfus, it is sudo aptitude purge or / sudo aptitude remove <package name>
[11:40] <sam_> hi
[11:40] <nalioth> gnomefreak: do we still have a problem?
[11:40] <mortal5> ok check this out, I exported the CC like it told me to
[11:40] <mortal5> it still fails
[11:40] <sam_> Im a windows user
[11:40] <sam_> trying ubuntu
[11:40] <trappist> mortal5: with what error
[11:40] <gnomefreak> every way i know how to apt-get remove stuff but its telling him its not installed
[11:40] <sam_> is it hard to learn
[11:40] <panoramix46> Grazie per l'accoglienza ho trovato il mio canale
[11:41] <lucasvo> lodxcol: maybe you should think before you edit the booscripts
[11:41] <gnomefreak> nalioth: i hope not
[11:41] <gnomefreak> ty
[11:41] <nalioth> panoramix46: por favor #ubuntu-it
[11:41] <lodxcol> well i didnt edit it them i just set up initng
[11:41] <lodxcol> i folled the howto
[11:41] <wfx> rapha: yes, i have already the LFS book.
[11:41] <lightbright> hello
[11:41] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hi, how are you today?
[11:41] <lucasvo> sam_: no, it is not hard to learn, but if you already know windows you will think oh, it is so difficult, because you already know windows
[11:41] <sam_> is it easy to install a radeon 9550?
[11:41] <holba> pinpoint, no idea, normally it is the other way round, gnome complains when you DON'T have the hostname in /etc/hosts
[11:41] <trappist> mortal5: come to think of it, exporting it will only set it for the user.  'sudo' will forget it.  try sudo CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4 ./NV.....sh
[11:41] <lightbright> trappist: hi
[11:41] <gnomefreak> lightbright: im ok and you?
[11:41] <lucasvo> lodxcol: which howto?
[11:41] <sam_> sweet
[11:42] <pinpoint> holba, what is a hostname supposed to be really?
[11:42] <sam_> down with microsoft
[11:42] <pinpoint> holba, a true hostname
[11:42] <tech9iner> rapha: ty muchly chum.. jolly good here.. actually bit too much 'gui dependent' here to give all gui up.. ;] ] .. just need minimum gui balanced w lean os mainly.. dont want me ebay buyers booting these old lappyz n waitn 8 mins for desktop ;] ] 
[11:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: im great thanks!  sorry for the misunderstandinf the other day, peace
[11:42] <rapha> wfx: Good :-) ... I don't think you'll get any more specific help on this...
[11:42] <lightbright> I keep getting update message to upgrade kernel 386,!  How can I remove this from update listing as I already upgraded Kernel 686 and thats the kernel I use?
[11:42] <gnomefreak> its all good
[11:42] <lightbright> gnomefreak: :)
[11:42] <lucasvo> sam_: but people will help you here, it shouldn't be any problem
[11:42] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:42] <holba> pinpoint, no, miranda is fine, you don't need a fully qualified domainname
[11:42] <trappist> lightbright: uninstall the 386 kernel
[11:42] <Gunfus> that was what I said before.. but noone listen to me.. :P ehh opkay.. sothe purge didn't work either
[11:42] <sam_> thank you
[11:42] <tech9iner> rapha: mea culpa ;] ] .. ty = thankyou.. chum/guv brit slang .. dude maybe?.. rofl
[11:42] <rapha> tech9iner: xubuntu. Definitely. If you want it to look nice, install some nifty MacOS-X theme or something.
[11:42] <Gunfus> same output as last time
[11:43] <wfx> rapha:  :) yes, maybe ...
[11:43] <lightbright> trappist: if I uninstall lernel 386, will update notifier stop asking me to upgrade it?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: try sudo apt-get remove <one of those packages>
[11:43] <rapha> tech9iner: `dude' I understand. Thanks :-)
[11:43] <ilba7r> Gunfus, sorry what output you refer too
[11:43] <bjv> rapha: wait, what is xubuntu?
[11:43] <trappist> lightbright: there won't be anything to upgrade :)
[11:43] <Knelix> Okay... so I got a new DVI LCD display... I hooked it up to my NVIDIA graphics card (and I do have the driver installed) and I do get a picture... BUT not the full resolution (1680x1050). It seems it's still using the resolution from the old CRT. Now, I suppose this entails editing the xorg.config file... But I'm wondering if anything changes, as this is a DVI display, rather than VGA.
[11:43] <rapha> bjv: Ubuntu with XFCE.
[11:43] <sam_> I have the instructions and driver from ATI but the screen is to big...i cant hit next...after selecting Ubuntu 5.10
[11:43] <Gunfus> ilba7r, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7429
[11:43] <abood> jnk, aby result ?
[11:43] <bjv> rapha: oh.
[11:43] <lightbright> trappist: great :)  now how do I unijstalll kernel 386 the safest and cleanest? :)
[11:43] <tech9iner> dumb.. methinks not rapha .. ahem.. cough*Mercedes!*cough ;] 
[11:43] <gnomefreak> ilba7r: it lists the kde apps that are still there under kept back
[11:43] <trappist> sam_: yeah that really sucks.  that happened to me.  I forgot how I fixed it.
[11:44] <bjv> rapha: i run a naked xorg with lwm, i though you knew something i didnt :P
[11:44] <rapha> bjv: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop if you want to try it out in parralel to your GNOME desktop.
[11:44] <trappist> lightbright: sudo apt-get remove packagename
[11:44] <lightbright> how do I uninstall kernel 386 the safest and cleanest please?
[11:44] <ilba7r> Gunfus, i am afraid you have to remove them one at a time than
[11:44] <lucasvo> sam_: hu?
[11:44] <gnomefreak> sam_: can you use the tab to go to the next button?
[11:44] <lucasvo> sam_: you are on ubuntu?
[11:44] <Gunfus> ilba7r, okay
[11:44] <lightbright> trappist: whats the packagane name for kernel 386?
[11:44] <sam_> yes
[11:44] <sam_> i cant see the tab
[11:44] <mortal5> trappist, for some reason, even while root, "env CC=/usr/bin/gcc-3.4" doesn't work
[11:44] <Gunfus> removing them one by one it is then.. because that seems to work..
[11:44] <gnomefreak> :(
[11:44] <trappist> lightbright: linux-image-386 I think
[11:44] <mortal5> it says it works, but when I hit env again to check, it's not there
[11:44] <Gunfus> but I am afraid I will remove some of the packages that are shared
[11:44] <ilba7r> Gunfus, if you used aptitude to install it it would have removed it automatically
[11:45] <sam_> I'm on ubuntu 5.10
[11:45] <rapha> bjv: Wow. The most naked thing I could ever bear for longer than an hour is Enlightenment :-)
[11:45] <gnomefreak> Gunfus: dont worry about that
[11:45] <lightbright> trappist: ok so I type: "sudo apt-get remove -purge linux-image-386" ?
[11:45] <sam_> on the bright side I got my intel 536 modem to work
[11:45] <Knelix> Does xorg.config differentiate between DVI and VGA? Should I try autodetect and if so, ow do I do that?
[11:45] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, okay
[11:45] <trappist> mortal5: I dunno about env... if all else fails, sudo ln -sf /usr/bin/gcc-3.4 /usr/bin/gcc
[11:45] <trappist> lightbright: not -purge
[11:45] <Gunfus> gnomefreak, ilba7r thanks guys
[11:45] <ilba7r> Gunfus, if you try to remove a shared lib/package you will get a warning and it will tell you which other programs depend on it
[11:45] <lightbright> trappist: do I then type: "sudo apt-get remove linux-image-386" ?
[11:45] <lodxcol> there was a howto on ubuntuforums on how to set it up
[11:45] <gnomefreak> yw Gunfus
[11:45] <lodxcol> can you just please help me get it back to normal
[11:45] <butcherbird> Knelix: i would have thought that would be done after apt-getting everything for nvidia did you go by wiki.ubuntu.com guide or just install driver?
[11:45] <trappist> lightbright: that oughtta do it
[11:45] <ilba7r> yw :)
[11:45] <lodxcol> anyone gonna elp me?
[11:46] <lightbright> trappist: ty
[11:46] <jnk> abood, I wonder if there's not a problem with the video bios, which could be fixed using 855resolution
[11:46] <tech9iner> pondereing rapha here.. have 2 lappys already loaded w kubuntu.. clean install only of xubuntu from there ya thinkz?.. or can one lazily try 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu' maybe?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> tech9iner: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[11:46] <tech9iner> rapha: then remove bloat of kubuntu manually?
[11:46] <mortal5> lol excelent idea
[11:46] <tech9iner> ahh ty rapha .. then 'sudo apt-get remove kubuntu' maybe?
[11:47] <rapha> tech9iner: nah. Just do a ubuntu server installation, enable the universe repository and type "apt-get install xubuntu-desktop".
[11:47] <lightbright> trappist: that seemed to have done it :)
[11:47] <lightdifference> I'm having a slight problem. I installed kde via apt-get the other day, but I didn't like it, so I switched back to gnome. But...er....the kde login screen is sticking there.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> tech9iner: i wouold keep kubuntu on there
[11:47] <Knelix> butcherbird: Uhm, I installed it with some instructions from the boards or the wiki, I think. It's working fine. The thing is, it doesn't seem to realize the new display can do much higher resolution.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> tech9iner: important things may depends on it seeing as it was the main install
[11:47] <tech9iner> really?.. on 6-10gig hdd's rapha .. assuming the kubuntu doesnt waste 100'z of megs then ?
[11:48] <lodxcol> THANKS FOR NOTHING ALL
[11:48] <abood> jnk,  i think that there is not proplem, its works good in another os ?
[11:48] <tech9iner> makes prrrfect sense now that u type it here gnomefreak ;] ] 
[11:48] <gnomefreak> tech9iner: if you have a 10 gig you are safe
[11:48] <butcherbird> Knelix: i could be wrong but please verify real quick that you installed and ran these packages https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia
[11:48] <Knelix> butcherbird: Okay. Looking...
[11:49] <jnk> abood, even so, I've seen a computer working ok with windows, but which needed 855resolution to get the right one in ubuntu
[11:49] <tech9iner> hehe.. gnomefreak / gmoke rofl.. niiiice 'g'word' play guv rofl
[11:49] <jnk> abood, this programs doesn't change your bios, just the copy in RAM
[11:49] <Knelix> butcherbird: Yes, And I think that's the guide I used, too.
[11:50] <BradM> o
[11:50] <abood> jnk, 855resolution is a programm i need  to get ?
[11:50] <BradM> m
[11:50] <BradM> g
[11:50] <einPaule> Can someone help me with : Host 'localhost.localdomain' is not allowed to connect to this MySQL server ... Ive tried adding a user with the host localhost.localdomain and setting him up with a password... but it has not helped
[11:50] <trappist> BradM: don't do that
[11:50] <butcherbird> Knelix: hrm..lsmod show nvidia ?
[11:50] <jnk> abood, yes, see http://packages.ubuntu.com/breezy/x11/855resolution
[11:50] <BradM> trappist, dont tell me what to do
[11:50] <butcherbird> Knelix: 3d gaming working?
[11:51] <njan> einPaule, you'll probably have more luck if you /join #mysql or #sql
[11:51] <trappist> BradM: away messages are obnoxious, especially in a channel this big.  so is scrolling.
[11:51] <abood> jnk, let me check it :)
[11:51] <BradM> trappist, asking is better than demanding
[11:51] <einPaule> njan, thats an idea I didnt get... thanks
[11:51] <gnomefreak> ty tech9iner also there may be xubuntu isos floating around they were supposed to release them but i dont know if they ever did
[11:51] <BradM> but
[11:51] <imcsk8> hello, does somebody know how can i install the webdav module for apache2??
[11:52] <BradM> i will turn it off, i dont want to get banned from this channel...it comes in handy when you need help :P
[11:52] <crimsun> gnomefreak: won't have 'em until next Flight
[11:52] <jnk> abood, read the doc in /usr/share/doc/855resolution after you've installed it, and try adding the resolution you want, then restart gnome and look at the available resolutions in desktop->preferences, or put only this reslution in xorg.conf as before... I have to go sorry
[11:52] <wfx> And now for something completly different: how can i record rhythmbox radiostation?
[11:52] <gnomefreak> ty crimsun
[11:52] <gnomefreak> sorry tech9iner  they are not out yet
[11:52] <tech9iner> Survey of EU Government FLOSS Use Rebuts MS TCO FUD Thursday, January 19 2006 (www.groklaw.net/article.php?story=20060119080108568)
[11:52] <puppiesonacid> I downloaded the latest ubuntu from torrent, but when I burn and try to install, I get a kernel panic
[11:52] <puppiesonacid> Should I redownload and bunr??
[11:53] <Knelix> butcherbird: 3D is working-- I can tell by the screen saver. I really have no 3D games. What is lsmod show nvidia? Oh, I also installed the NVIDIA settings panel... But I forgot how to access it....
[11:53] <gnomefreak> hey hey hey windows has good points (easy to write and send viruses) :)
[11:53] <jnk> wfx, not with rhythmbox but I guess you can use a gstreamer pipe for that (with gst-launch-0.8, read the manpage and good luck)
[11:53] <wfx> puppiesonacid: check the md5 sum
[11:53] <tech9iner> gnomefreak: u mean latest n greatest xubuntu iso's ? or so new flavor as to not even be available yet period?
[11:54] <gnomefreak> tech9iner: those they will be this year :)
[11:54] <tech9iner> gnomefreak: roflmfao easy..viruses rofl
[11:55] <butcherbird> Knelix: apt-get install chromium and then run it i dont think driver installed or just lsmod | grep nvidia see if it shows up
[11:55] <puppiesonacid> wfx: Ah!  It is different!
[11:55] <puppiesonacid> Did I screw up somehow?
[11:55] <wfx> puppiesonacid: the the iso is wrong :/ get a new one
[11:55] <puppiesonacid> Shit...I got it from the official site and everything.
[11:55] <puppiesonacid> Now I'm going to have to wait forever and a day to get a new one.
[11:56] <kriz> hi
[11:56] <barron> I had a freak problem when I was running my ubuntu install for the first time, it failed to install gnome-guide.deb or something, now I have a bunch of uninstalled programs and I need to know how to install them.
[11:56] <wfx> puppiesonacid: maybe you should use  wget
[11:56] <tech9iner> ??
[11:56] <Knelix> butcherbird: I do get the NVIDIA splash screen at bootup and 3D acceleration. So, the driver is installed. I dunno if you're referring to something else, though.
[11:57] <tech9iner> methinks some1 fell asleep on keyboard whilst assigning nick maybe?.. heh
[11:57] <tech9iner> '|||||||||' ?
[11:57] <puppiesonacid> How do you pause with wget?
[11:57] <trappist> puppiesonacid: you could ctrl-z
[11:57] <trappist> then type fg to resume
[11:57] <wfx> CTR-C
[11:58] <barron> Is there an easy way to resume the initial boot process?
[11:58] <barron> I installed ubuntu and it froze for a long time on some package depended on by gnome.
[11:59] <barron> While unpacking.
[11:59] <zandaa> how can I uninstall daemons like bluetooth etc?