[12:04] <trispace> is there a security update for the kjs problem in riddells kde3.5 repository?
[12:08] <isodude> e.g. shouldnt >find /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-amd64-k8/ -iname "*agp*"< find anything more then intel-agp.ko ? :(
[12:09] <nalioth> trispace: kjs ?
[12:11] <hatake_kakashi> ls isodude: use 'name' instead of 'iname' and use *agp* instead of "*agp*"
[12:12] <isodude> rather use -rege
[12:12] <isodude> -regex
[12:12] <m_tadeu>  i'm trying to read a dvd in kaffeine and...it's telling me that it can't read the source and that maybe I don't have enough rights?
[12:12] <trispace> nalioth: http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20060119-1.txt
[12:13] <nalioth> trispace: if he hasnt got it patched, he'll have it sorted soon
[12:13] <isodude> `find` sometimes complain on me not entering a path when doing `find . -iname *asd*` but if I put quotes around "*asd*" it works.
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> isodude: strangely enough putting the file to be found in either quoted or non quoted format produces same results.. try find /lib/modules/`uname -r`
[12:15] <trispace> nalioth: ok. anyway: its my "fault" to use an unofficial package, 'cause ubuntu has already patched it :)
[12:15] <nalioth> trispace: ummm, ok.
[12:15] <hatake_kakashi> isodude: which modprobe version are you using?
[12:16] <isodude> 3.2-pre7
[12:17] <isodude> Hm, maybe -amd64-k8 kernel has amd64-agp module builtin?
[12:18] <trispace> does anybody know why kaffeine and mplayer aren't able to play divx movies smoothly, but vlc does the trick? (i'm using the nvidia glx module)
[12:18] <isodude> But then again `lspci | grep AGP` doesn`t list the K8T800 AGP part.
[12:18] <wedgeV> m_tadeu: try vlc
[12:18] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[12:19] <jorik> kubuntu plays dvd's with ?
[12:20] <isodude> VLC
[12:20] <isodude> :)
[12:20] <isodude> Totem
[12:20] <jorik> *rtying*
[12:24] <jorik> libdvdread: Encrypted DVD support unavailable.
[12:25] <robotgeek> jorik, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:25] <jorik> thats the error its giving me in console when i try to read dvd's with xine (i just tried that first cuz it was already installed), telling me to see if another program is using the soundcard (how do i do that ?)
[12:25] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jorik about libdvdcss
[12:26] <jorik> oh ok, lets try that
[12:27] <jorik> damn i gotta get this dvd to work lol they're starting to throw shit at me
[12:27] <hatake_kakashi> has anyone been able to turn off apmd?
[12:27] <SkrotFFS> Which package has divx/xvid codecs in kubuntu?
[12:27] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: ?
[12:27] <robotgeek> SkrotFFS, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:28] <hatake_kakashi> trispace: err get rid of apm functions and remove apm module.. I want to try and remove it to see if that's the root of my hardware problem.. I have tried to somewhat set apm to disable any shutting down functions
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> in the BIOS that is
[12:29] <isodude> whats this i see!!
[12:29] <isodude> hmm /sys/bus/pci/drivers/agpgart-amd64
[12:30] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: just try to compile a kernel without apm module
[12:30] <nightwatch> hi there is anybudy here which ever worked with shared libraries ?? development
[12:31] <hatake_kakashi> hmm :/ I could do that but I would prefer getting GRUB to append the noapm.. however that did not seem to work..
[12:31] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: do you have apm as a Module or compiled in?
[12:32] <hatake_kakashi> trispace: its module but its used under lsmod.. I have tried to remove it but it said that it is in use.. I tried force removing it and that crashed the comptuer
[12:32] <hatake_kakashi> s/compter/computer
[12:33] <crimsun> Tm_T: which network chipset?
[12:33] <isodude> now what doI do with that!?
[12:33] <isodude> do I*
[12:34] <Tm_T> crimsun: no, ifup eth0 returns "eth0 is already up"
[12:34] <Tm_T> but it just don't get even simple ping through
[12:34] <crimsun> Tm_T: ...which chipset?
[12:34] <Tm_T> nforce2
[12:35] <crimsun> tg3?
[12:35] <Tm_T> crimsun: and just hit me if you need to, I can be irritating ;)
[12:35] <crimsun> no
[12:35] <crimsun> forcedeth, right?
[12:35] <grim76> Tm_T: do  you have dual nics on your MB?
[12:35] <Tm_T> nope
[12:35] <Tm_T> afaik
[12:36] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: lspci if unsure
[12:36] <grim76> Tm_T: ok i had a problem with mine with dual nics hooked up at the same time.  Just figured I would ask.
[12:36] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: with one that goes down and up every so often?
[12:36] <Tm_T> I'm sure I have only one
[12:36] <Tm_T> el cheapo motherboard
[12:37] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: No I could not connect unless I disconnected one of them.  I have yet to take the time to figure it out...just been too busy
[12:37] <isodude> [   22.028419]  agpgart: Detected AGP bridge 0
[12:37] <isodude> [   22.034675]  agpgart: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xd0000000
[12:37] <isodude> [   22.046897]  Linux agpgart interface v0.101 (c) Dave Jones
[12:38] <isodude> hmm, shouldnt lspci detect agp too then?
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: odd, I have two NIC but then one keeps going up and down.. like you can see the 'on' light going on and off. I tried plugging into another one and currently it seems to be working fine.. I have a feeling that apm is causing the stirrup
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> isodude: not necessarily I think
[12:40] <hatake_kakashi> when I refer to plugging, I plug the ethernet cable to the other one
[12:41] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: hmmmm have not had that.  All I know is that I can't get anywhere when both are plugged in.  I will have to dig around in the conf files to see what all is going on
[12:41] <isodude> hatake_kakashi: oh fix my kubuntu please :) I would even hug you on irc.
[12:41] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: which brand are you with for NIC cards if you don't mind me asking?
[12:41] <isodude> well.
[12:42] <isodude> reboot I guess, and sleep.
[12:42] <grim76> one is a 3com and the other is the Nvidia....A7n8x mobo
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> isodude: I'm having a fair bit of problems here myself..
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: ahh, one is built in and the other one is plugged in via pci?
[12:42] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: nope both are on board.
[12:43] <isodude> hatake_kakashi: what\s that
[12:44] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: hmm interesting
[12:44] <hatake_kakashi> isodude: I'm having problems with apm/apmd, problems with isa soundcard, etc
[12:44] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: yeah that is what I thought to.  Just a weird thing that happens....but not the end of the world.
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: I wonder why did the mobo include two NIC cards on one mobo.. very odd -_- I've only seen one built-in
[12:45] <hatake_kakashi> and usually its something like Nvidia
[12:46] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: I have seen several that have dual nics on them
[12:47] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: I suppose with two different brands, that can cause frustrations and headaches..
[12:48] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: Actually it has been helpful.  I can get online with the 3com in most distros, sometimes though the Nvidia sometimes is not detected right away.
[12:48] <hatake_kakashi> hmm, looks like I've partially solved that apm problem
[12:48] <johnkershaw> um. hi.
[12:48] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: well if its not a necessity to have nvidia on, I suggest turning nvidia one off via BIOS
[12:49] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: how?
[12:49] <SkrotFFS> Hi. I've got kubuntu dapper, KDE 3.5 and sun-j2sdk1.5, but when I try to view java applets in konqueror I get "** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)"' What could be wrong?
[12:49] <hatake_kakashi> trispace: /etc/init.d/apmd stop && rmmod apm
[12:49] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: I might however, I like to have the ethernet that is unused by the system for directing SSH traffic to.  Basically giving it its own connection.
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: hmm.. I wonder if creating virtual NICs can do that
[12:50] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: have never done that
[12:50] <hatake_kakashi> trispace: now I need to find a way to disable it permanently
[12:51] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: you may blacklist it.
[12:51] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: or simply remove the Link to the apm start-Skript
[12:51] <trispace> hatake_kakashi: start-script
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: maybe reading up on some of the docs/howto may help. I had that somewhat happening on my friend's laptop once.. running ubuntu it automagically created a virtual device eth0:0 I think.. causing troubles, etc
[12:52] <grim76> I will have to look at it
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> trispace: yeah that might be a good idea.. and blacklisting.. that's interesting.. I recall my soundcard was blacklisted once.. awe-wave
[12:52] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: I dunno if it all it could help, but :)
[12:53] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: You never know
[12:53] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: *nods* true true
[12:57] <MrJangles> anyone have the command to restart xserver?
[12:57] <MrJangles> or start/stop
[12:57] <grim76> ctrl-alt-backspace
[12:57] <MrJangles> command  line
[12:57] <grim76> oh that I am not sure
[12:57] <MrJangles> :(
[12:58] <MrJangles> i think ctrl alt F6 / F7 would do that
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: maybe with manual kill or init?
[12:58] <MrJangles> manual kill
[12:58] <MrJangles> i made some changes to my xorg.conf
[12:58] <MrJangles> and coming in here is easier than restarting lol
[12:58] <hatake_kakashi> Ctrl+Alt+F1 - F6 are just virtual terminals.. by default Ctrl+Alt+F7 is the Xserver terminal
[12:58] <MrJangles> ah
[12:58] <Blippe> killall Xorg
[12:59] <MrJangles> awesome, and to start?
[12:59] <grim76> startx
[12:59] <hatake_kakashi> startx I think
[12:59] <hatake_kakashi> yeah there you go
[12:59] <MrJangles> ty, brb
[12:59] <hatake_kakashi> but if you use init its much faster
[12:59] <hatake_kakashi> init 3 && init 5
[01:00] <Blippe> startkde
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> bloody hell.. stopping powernowd I have found that my download speeds go up a fair bit higher :D
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> and oh yeah, removing their respective modules
[01:01] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: running on a laptop?
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> I've always hated these apm/acpi things.. and at least it has already proven to be my enemy of all time
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: no desktop, but I'm running on 1998 hardware
[01:02] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: ahhhh ok
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: I had a thought that powernow is for AMD chips, I'm on an Intel chip, so I doubt it would be effective
[01:03] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: not sure would have to look that one up.  Could be thought.
[01:03] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: I think it was either K6 or K7 series.. I mean this is going back awhile ago.. to like socket 370 and probably a little more older too
[01:05] <hatake_kakashi> now, I need to fix up both apmd and powernowd :) as well as my ISA soundcard and adding a few other bits and pieces and then my box should be properly fixed up *sigh*
[01:06] <grim76> lol been there done that
[01:06] <hatake_kakashi> the problem with ISA soundcards on linux are... well any ISA cards generally.. are a pain in the a**.. no offense
[01:08] <hatake_kakashi> and I also need to somehow optimise the system a bit.. like making it go on i686 packages rather than the standard i386 packages.. everytime I switch between different desktops, and even in different tabs for konsole, it lags a bit.. and its effecting my updates/upgrades I believe
[01:10] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: there are i686 kernels out there
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> in the kubuntu repository? or building your own vanilla kernel? ;)
[01:11] <grim76> hatake_kakashi: in the repos
[01:11] <hatake_kakashi> ahh ok, cool, I might grab those, thanks for the heads up
[01:11] <grim76> np
[01:13] <hatake_kakashi> if I find out that apmd and powernowd are the ones causing my downloads to go slow as hell, I must be hellishly relieved :)
[01:13] <grim76> lol
[01:14] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: before, my speeds were choking on ~700B/s, now I'm doing like 3.4KB/s with wget
[01:14] <hatake_kakashi> and apt-get :)
[01:14] <grim76> ouch dialup?
[01:15] <hatake_kakashi> grim76: well, tbh, its shaped internet after excessive downloads, but I'm living in a shared accommodation with 7 other people.. and all 7 of us are sharing this bad speeds
[01:15] <grim76> Yikes
[01:16] <hatake_kakashi> I was seriously annoyed yesterday and a few days before how the internet was really slow.. I mean I get mass lags, updating takes ages, etc etc etc
[01:16] <hatake_kakashi> even chatting on the net was a bit of a problem
[01:18] <grim76> lol
[01:19] <hatake_kakashi> 24Mbps/24Mbps
[01:19] <hatake_kakashi> :(
[01:19] <grim76> lol
[01:20] <grim76> Never have been on speeds like that other than at my old place of work
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> having that sort of speeds is almost like floating in a dream
[01:20] <hatake_kakashi> you can download as fast as your computer can handle
[01:21] <grim76> No kidding especially when you are there when no one else is using it.
[01:21] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[01:21] <hatake_kakashi> well, I wasn't able to get that speeds with their computer (uni's) easily
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> 1 SATA hd, it was barely capable at 4+ Mbps
[01:22] <hatake_kakashi> nevertheless, it was bloody fast..
[01:22] <grim76> heh
[01:23] <JohnFlux_> hatake_kakashi: uh a SATA hd should be able to reach 40MB/sec !
[01:23] <JohnFlux_> 4Mbps  is only 0.4MB/sec   - that's really awful
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> JohnFlux_: not with shared bus
[01:23] <JohnFlux_> i don't care what bus - that's 2 orders of magnitude out
[01:24] <hatake_kakashi> and plus its a prebuilt computer from dell :)
[01:24] <hatake_kakashi> *shrug* oh well, that was when testing on bt
[01:24] <JohnFlux_>  Timing buffered disk reads:   48 MB in  3.08 seconds =  15.57 MB/sec
[01:25] <JohnFlux_> that's on my laptop
[01:25] <JohnFlux_> that's 40 times faster that your sata :P
[01:25] <hatake_kakashi> my sata? it wasn't mine :) it was uni's
[01:25] <JohnFlux_> lol
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> like I said, prebuilt computer
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> mine's a white box
[01:26] <hatake_kakashi> and its on PATA
[01:30] <MrJangles> my terminal transparent bg, is the bg of my gnome, and i'm in kde
[01:30] <MrJangles> any ideas?
[01:30] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: and your bg normally is on kde?
[01:31] <MrJangles> i'm not sure what you mean
[01:31] <MrJangles> i use both interfaces, gnome and kde
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: ok, your default background for kde looks different when you run konsole right?
[01:32] <MrJangles> and when i run kde, my transparent background image for my terminal program, is that of gnome, not my kde bg
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> are you running multiple sessions?
[01:32] <MrJangles> i think its cause the terminal is refering to the bg image of gnome
[01:32] <MrJangles> no
[01:32] <MrJangles> but its strange
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> ok, then its probably what you said just then
[01:32] <MrJangles> i should use konsole than
[01:33] <MrJangles> i dont like it lol, i like my simple terminal :(
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> simple terminal?
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> you mean vty type terminal?
[01:33] <JohnFlux_> hey everyone
[01:33] <JohnFlux_> how do I make scones please?
[01:33] <MrJangles> probably, i'm a little new
[01:33] <JohnFlux_> a simple reciple
[01:33] <MrJangles> can konsole be configured to use transparency?
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> JohnFlux_: never made one myself :/
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: yes of course
[01:34] <JohnFlux_> MrJangles: only fake.  the real transparency patches haven't been added yet
[01:34] <MrJangles> alright, i'll go with that and see how i like it... any third party terminals you could reccomend? (not xterm)
[01:34] <feistel> hi
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> ahh bah.. JohnFlux_ is right on the dot there
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> its only transparent through to background
[01:35] <MrJangles> ok i see
[01:35] <hatake_kakashi> you can't see any windows behind konsole
[01:35] <MrJangles> ya i understand that, i kinda like that tho
[01:35] <feistel> I have a problem configuring kicker for all users, I need customize a kicker bar for all user per default, but the applet don't load
[01:35] <MrJangles> but thats not my original problem
[01:35] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: well, yeah its still possible.. and your original problem is just a matter of reconfiguring konsole
[01:36] <MrJangles> ya, i wonder if i can get the source for the default kde terminal and change the transparency to refer to kde
[01:36] <MrJangles> gnow terminal*
[01:36] <MrJangles> gnome even...
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> yeah it should be possible under settings.. hang on.. I'm logging into X now
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> settings/configure konsole/schema
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> s/schema/schemes
[01:39] <dcode> I recently got this problem where as soon as I log into KDE, I lose keyboard control
[01:39] <dcode> my mouse works fine, but once KDM starts KDE, no more keyboard
[01:39] <dcode> any ideas?
[01:40] <dcode> it also doesn't work remotely using NX
[01:41] <dcode> I'm using dapper flight 2
[01:44] <dcode> I'm using dapper flight 2 with KDE and as soon as I login and KDM launches KDE, I lose use of the keyboard....any ideas what could cause that?
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> probably keyboard was plugged into usb and mouse is plugged into ps/2
[01:49] <dcode> actually, I've used a usb kb and ps mouse, but that didn't work, right now I've got them hooked into a ps/2 KVM
[01:49] <dcode> but it works fine under KDM....it only doesn't work in KDE
[01:50] <grim76> dcode: does it work when you hook it up direct rather than through kvm
[01:50] <MrJangles> back
[01:50] <dcode> no...it doesn't work through NX either
[01:50] <dcode> just the mouse
[01:50] <hatake_kakashi> its KDE software fault then
[01:50] <dcode> it's loading XINPUT okay
[01:50] <MrJangles> one problem with konsole, is there a way to remove the small border around the entire terminal?
[01:51] <dcode> hatake_kakashi, it seems a KDE fault, but what the hell would cause it?  in kwin?  it's just strange
[01:51] <grim76> dcode: did it quit after you ran updates or just stopped one day?
[01:52] <dcode> I think it quit after my last update
[01:52] <dcode> which was about a week ago
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: that would probably be under window decrations or theme manager.. have a look around
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> dcode: I dunno, you are using unstable version
[01:52] <MrJangles> in the konsole program itself?
[01:52] <dcode> I plan to update again tonight, but I'm on satellite (blegh) and want to wait for off-peak times
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> maybe asking in #kde might help
[01:52] <grim76> dcode: Do you know what you updated...with alpha software could be an issue with a freaky package.
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: no.. the KDE window decorations
[01:52] <dcode> grim76, I did 'apt-get update'
[01:52] <MrJangles> ty
[01:53] <dcode> it updated x.org and kwin and damn near everthing
[01:53] <grim76> dcode: yeah just thought about that with running drake
[01:53] <dcode> I mean upgrade not update
[01:53] <hatake_kakashi> dcode: did you uncomment the lines for universal under sources.list ?
[01:54] <dcode> I've got universe, not multiverse
[01:54] <hatake_kakashi> that's probably why you ended up getting unstable packages
[01:55] <dcode> hatake_kakashi, it's dapper anyway....it's unstable by nature...I was mainly just inquiring like this was a known bug in some packages released one day or something
[01:55] <dcode> I haven't had much time to interact with the Interweb, so I'm not exactly up to date with the latest gossip about brokeness and stuff
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> dcode: well.. you can double check with #kde.. if they can't help you, etc, then its the way the kubuntu dev's have made
[01:56] <dcode> I'll just update tonight and see if that fixes it
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> well.. viewing the sources.list says that there are no guarentees -_-
[01:56] <hatake_kakashi> under the section for univese
[01:56] <dcode> yeah...I know
[01:57] <fangorious> is there a way to set different mime settings in konqueror based on what profile the window is using? I don't want images to be opened inline when file browsing, but don't want to launch an external viewer for them when web browsing
[02:00] <fangorious> is there a way to enforce a konqueror tab be loaded with a particular profile based on the url being opened? perhaps a way to not open web url's in file browsing windows, and vice versa?
[02:03] <eidolon> 'lo folks.  is anyone using a Treo-650 with Dapper?  i'm having problems that it's not recognizing that there's a poilot (/dev/pilot) device attached.  I'm guessing a problem with associating the USB signature with a pilot device by...  i'm assuming devfs.
[02:07] <fatejudger> how can I mount my NTFS partition?
[02:07] <fatejudger> I only need read only access
[02:07] <fangorious> mount -t ntfs /dev/hdb1 /where/you/want/it/mounted
[02:07] <eidolon> what he said.
[02:08] <BurgerMann> lol
[02:08] <fangorious> substitute the appropriate device and mount path
[02:08] <eidolon> got an amazing number of hits for 'mount rushmore' :-/
[02:08] <BurgerMann> the /dev/hdb1 may vary?
[02:08] <fangorious> BurgerMann: it certainly may, hence my second comment to substitute appropriately
[02:08] <fangorious> :)
[02:09] <BurgerMann> oh
[02:09] <eidolon> heh.  anyone got ideas on the devfs / usb / treo problem?
[02:10] <fangorious> eidolon: sorry, haven't had a palm device since the original Palm Pilot in like '96.
[02:10] <eidolon> heh.  *nod* 'sok :)
[02:10] <MrJangles> hatake_kakashi: theres a small white bar i cant get rid of in konsole, i dont think its possible to get it completely transparent, no borders, no thinging
[02:11] <BurgerMann> I'm fooling around with this KDE app 'Taskjuggler' Need to configure it but it complains = " in the prefix, you've chosen, are no KDE headers installed. This will fail." Does anyone have any clue where I need to set the prefix?
[02:11] <MrJangles> no anything*
[02:11] <dell500> how do you kill a command that's running in terminal?
[02:11] <dell500> such as cp
[02:12] <eidolon> may have found at hread in the centos forums about this.
[02:12] <BurgerMann> Now I chose /opt/taskjuggler as my prefix, surely there's no kde headeres there but...
[02:12] <eidolon> control-c?
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: if you want fully transparent, you should consider running kahaki or something
[02:12] <hatake_kakashi> eidolon: that puts it in bg
[02:12] <eidolon> uh
[02:12] <eidolon> no, it does not.
[02:12] <fangorious> dell500: you can use ksysgaurd, what eidolon said, open another terminal and run ps -x then run kill
[02:12] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: no, it should kill it
[02:12] <MrJangles> hatake_kakashi: sounds good... thanks
[02:12] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: ctrl-z suspends it, then bg backgrounds it
[02:13] <eidolon> control c in the bound terminal sends a SIGTERM to the process.
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: well it didn't work on some other programs I try
[02:13] <BurgerMann> ...
[02:13] <hatake_kakashi> MrJangles: that's another wm/de mind you
[02:13] <eidolon> man Dapper updates fast.  *does another apt-get upgrade and another 80 meg of files are pending* :)
[02:13] <BurgerMann> What does a KDE app configure mean when it says there's no kde headers in the chosen prefix?! :x
[02:14] <BurgerMann> stoopid question probably :(
[02:14] <eidolon> uhh
[02:14] <eidolon> you're running configure on the command line?
[02:14] <BurgerMann> ye
[02:14] <nalioth> eidolon: that is the way it goes. come april 21, your apt-get can rest
[02:14] <eidolon> ooo.  i haven't build kde from source in... er... 5 years?  :)
[02:14] <fangorious> hatake_kakashi: not everything responds properly to ctrl-c or ctrl-z. but ctrl-c is supposed to kill it, and ctrl-z is supposed to background it. any app could be written to trap the signals and do whatever they want in repsonse, or even ignore them
[02:14] <eidolon> nalioth: whassis then?  Dapper release?
[02:14] <BurgerMann> It seems like it wan't me to install the app somewhere specific other than i my /opt/taskjuggler :s
[02:14] <hatake_kakashi> fangorious: meh.. kill -9 is faster :)
[02:15] <eidolon> atm, it's -realllly- beeautiful and stable and great to work with :)
[02:15] <nalioth> eidolon: yes
[02:15] <hatake_kakashi> eidolon: if you are having fun with dapper, you might want to help dcode :p
[02:15] <nalioth> eidolon: april 20th
[02:16] <eidolon> ahhh.  found a posting.  apparently /etc/udev/rules.d/*.rules files determine what device numbers get assigned to what devies, and i can probably do something magical in there for usb assignment.
[02:16] <eidolon> i'll help all i can.
[02:16] <eidolon> i've hit some bugs already.
[02:16] <fangorious> nalioth: is dapper slated to have kde 4 (i don't know when kde 4 is supposed to be released)
[02:16] <eidolon> but not sure where to report them / comment on them.
[02:16] <eidolon> like dhclient.conf has syntax errors in it :)
[02:16] <nalioth> dapper will have 3.5
[02:16] <hatake_kakashi> dcode had a problem getting keyboard to work on KDE, he says it works on KDM but not KDE
[02:16] <eidolon> dapper already has 3.5 :)
[02:16] <eidolon> and it's loverly :)
[02:16] <nalioth> you'll have to wait for backports for any hints of 4.0
[02:17] <eidolon> improvements in amarok and kopete are the things i've noticed the most.
[02:17] <fangorious> nalioth: any idea if it any effort to let people segragate konq's web and file browsing will be made (specify to view types embedded in web but launch separate in file, only open a url in a new tab if an existing window is using the appropriate profile)?)
[02:18] <fangorious> i already have 3.5 from kubuntu.org, pretty nice
[02:18] <MrJangles> i've had some streaming problems with amarok, .pls, sometimes wont have a buffer, and music skips
[02:18] <MrJangles> any ideas?
[02:18] <eidolon> MrJangles: haven't seen that at all.
[02:18] <nalioth> fangorious: you can do that now
[02:18] <eidolon> i stream audio in amarok all the time.
[02:18] <MrJangles> so do i
[02:18] <eidolon> (i'm a radioparadise junkie)
[02:18] <MrJangles> just happens that 1 file doesnt seem to have a buffer, works fine in *ahem windows tho
[02:19] <_kaeru> I upgraded to KDE 3.5 a couple days ago and now everytime I log in artsd crashes and keeps crashing
[02:19] <fangorious> nalioth: really?! i come in here (and #konqueror and #kde) and ask every couple of days and am usually left with no response or told I can't!
[02:19] <fangorious> nalioth: please share the secret with me
[02:19] <nalioth> fangorious: you can do anything you like with konq, have you not asked the great google?
[02:19] <MrJangles> radioparadise eh? thats a good one?
[02:20] <eidolon> the best.
[02:20] <MrJangles> free?
[02:20] <eidolon> yup.
[02:20] <eidolon> www.radioparadise.com
[02:20] <MrJangles> quality?
[02:20] <eidolon> dude, check it out, i'm not workign for them or anything.
[02:20] <MrJangles> lol
[02:21] <MrJangles> alright alright, while i'm at it, do you know how to change the default browser?
[02:21] <eidolon> nope.
[02:21] <eidolon> i use firefox, and so far it's working spiffy.
[02:21] <eidolon> i'm amused that dapper is using deer park :)
[02:21] <MrJangles> outside links open in konqueror
[02:22] <fangorious> nalioth: well, yeah, but i have a history of not being able to search for the right string on these sorts of problems. especially when trying to avoid filing duplicate bug reports
[02:22] <eidolon> ya'll haven't broken anything on me yet!
[02:22] <nalioth> fangorious: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic please
[02:22] <MrJangles> lol, i just did the other day, had some minor issues with my system, but all went well
[02:25] <rance> does anyone know anything about the cd automounter in kubuntu, thats seems to be the only feature im having any real trouble with, Im not sure if its working correctly and I dont like it, or its not working right
[02:25] <fenix> Could anybody give me the default groups where a user belongs to, on kubuntu?
[02:25] <hatake_kakashi> fenix: id
[02:26] <fenix> i know there are more
[02:26] <fenix> audio cdrom...
[02:26] <fenix> i need them all
[02:26] <hatake_kakashi> if you want to see a list of groups you might as well try vim /etc/groups or something
[02:27] <rance> fenix: the kde user manager has a groups page, you can see all the groups and then pick and choose which ones a user belongs to
[02:27] <fenix> no, no. i mean, when you install kubuntu and make the first user, this user belongs to various groups such audio cdrom
[02:28] <sampan> fenix: on my ubuntu+kubuntu-desktop my user is part of these groups: adm, admin, audio, cdrom, dialout, dip, floppy, lpadmin, plugdev, scanner, video
[02:28] <fenix> i cant because i delete all my groups accidentally
[02:28] <rance> ouch
[02:28] <fenix> thanks a lot sampan
[02:28] <sampan> fenix, sure, np :)
[02:28] <hatake_kakashi> adm, dialout, cdrom, floppy, audio, dip, video, plugdev,lpadmin,scanner,admin and self
[02:28] <fenix> thankx hatake_kakashi too
[02:29] <hatake_kakashi> np
[02:35] <rance> does anyone know of a linux app that will view windows .WMV files?
[02:35] <nalioth> rance: if you have w32codecs, most of the multimedia programs will play them
[02:37] <rance> Ive got them on my windows install cd, but not on this install, No windows of any kind on this box
[02:37] <rance> first time thats happened actually
[02:37] <hatake_kakashi> maybe vlc might help
[02:38] <nalioth> !w32codecs
[02:38] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[02:39] <hatake_kakashi> !vlc
[02:39] <ubotu> rumour has it, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[02:39] <MrJangles> rance: http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs
[02:39] <Arcanimus> anyone know how I can fix a problem i have that exists in firefox; when i try to download a file, and click "save as" instead of open, then click the save button in the dialog; firefox just hangs
[02:39] <Arcanimus> and doesn't go anywhere
[02:40] <Arcanimus> and i have to eventually kill the process
[02:40] <Arcanimus> a similar fault exists when I use GAIM and try to change my Display Picture
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[02:40] <nalioth> !ubuntuguide
[02:40] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:40] <Arcanimus> i tried using the debugging option on gaim
[02:40] <Arcanimus> but i don't get any useful output
[02:40] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: running unstable?
[02:41] <Arcanimus> hmm?
[02:41] <Arcanimus> what do you mean
[02:41] <MrJangles> !ubuntuguide
[02:41] <ubotu> methinks ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[02:41] <MrJangles> lol, i seem to be the one out of date...
[02:41] <nalioth> MrJangles: please don't advise that anymore, if you must advise "ubuntuguide" use this one: http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[02:42] <MrJangles> lol the first time i try to help, i end up getting reemed. ;-) thanks for the headsup
[02:43] <nalioth> MrJangles: the original ubuntuguide is VERY out of date and WILL break modern ubuntu
[02:43] <Arcanimus> sigh :( this sucks - i have to download files via konqueror or wget
[02:43] <Arcanimus> which is really annoying because i always have to cut and paste links
[02:43] <nalioth> the URL i posted is an updated and current version of the original
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: which release are you running?
[02:44] <Arcanimus> of Firefox?
[02:44] <nalioth> but help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are the most likely not the botch your system
[02:44] <hatake_kakashi> kubuntu
[02:44] <MrJangles> nalioth: alright, i wont say it again...
[02:44] <Arcanimus> uhm, Breezy.. latest one
[02:44] <Arcanimus> the one with KDE 3.5
[02:44] <Arcanimus> forgot the version number
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> Breezy does not come with 3.5
[02:45] <Arcanimus> it doesn't?
[02:45] <Arcanimus> i thought it said on the site it was 3.5
[02:45] <nalioth> MrJangles: if you are here to help, why make your life more diffecult?
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> you have either uncommented the universe lines on source.list or have update it yourself
[02:45] <Arcanimus> maybe i misread "KDE 3.5 Released with Kubuntu Packages"
[02:45] <hatake_kakashi> I'm on Breezy and running KDE 3.4.3
[02:45] <Arcanimus> ok well i have the latest one anywho
[02:45] <owner> im using 3.5
[02:46] <Arcanimus> basically what i mean
[02:46] <hatake_kakashi> well, afaik 3.5 for kubuntu (if received from the repos) is probably still in the build and its most likely unstable
[02:46] <duckdown> Hey all.. i wiped out my MBR by mistake and I have no boot manager.. How do I get into my installation to reinstall GRUB?
[02:47] <MrJangles> nalioth: refering to a link that helped me with my codec problem, i thought there would be no harm. but now i understand that link is out of date, and i wont refer to it again. i dont know what else to say
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> duckdown: cdrom, floppy
[02:47] <duckdown> hatake_kakashi: I have the CD.. theres a rescue option?
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> duckdown: the last I recall, yes
[02:47] <duckdown> hmm ok I'll try that thanks, brb :)
[02:47] <hatake_kakashi> its under one of those F1 - F12 buttons
[02:47] <Arcanimus> duckdown, get GAG Bootloader from the gnu site
[02:48] <Arcanimus> put it on a floppy and install :)
[02:48] <hatake_kakashi> too late
[02:48] <Arcanimus> heh
[02:48] <Arcanimus> oh well
[02:48] <Arcanimus> wait so anyways.. back to my firefox problem
[02:48] <Arcanimus> any ideas?
[02:49] <hatake_kakashi> I'm not on 3.5 so I have no clue, some users are having troubles with 3.5 whilst others love it..
[02:49] <Arcanimus> now that I think about it
[02:49] <hatake_kakashi> maybe getting the latest firefox might help?
[02:49] <Arcanimus> i don't think it's 3.5
[02:49] <sampan> and some love it BECAUSE they're having troubles with it
[02:49] <sampan> <_<
[02:49] <hatake_kakashi> sampan: either way
[02:49] <Arcanimus> because when i select a boot-animation the one with the latest version number says "3.4" there's no "3.5" boot graphic
[02:49] <Arcanimus> and there probably should be if it's 3.5
[02:49] <vge> hmm, how can i make firefox the default, allways
[02:50] <Arcanimus> plus 3.5 comes with superkaramba right?
[02:50] <Arcanimus> i didn't have it by default
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: its under the About KDE
[02:50] <Arcanimus> so yeah.. probably 3.4
[02:50] <hatake_kakashi> vge: under firefox settings
[02:50] <vge> dont work
[02:50] <Arcanimus> Yep, 3.4.3
[02:50] <vge> for example i click a link in here Konversation
[02:51] <vge> Konqueror it is
[02:51] <dcode> is there anyway to install dbus-send w/o installing all that GTK crap?
[02:51] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: which version of firefox you running? 1.0.7?
[02:51] <dcode> avahi depends on dbus, but it requires dbus-send in the post-install which is located in dbus-1-utils
[02:51] <dcode> which in turn depends on a bunch of other crap
[02:52] <owner> i compiled my own kernel using the archck patch
[02:52] <owner> and it is really fast
[02:52] <_kaeru> I upgraded to KDE 3.5 a couple days ago and now everytime I log in artsd crashes and keeps crashing. Can anybosy help me fix this?
[02:52] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, yes
[02:53] <Arcanimus> actually wait no
[02:53] <Arcanimus> 1.5
[02:53] <Arcanimus> but i was using it for several days
[02:53] <owner> you should have done an apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[02:53] <Arcanimus> and i didn't have this problem
[02:53] <Arcanimus> now it just appeared out of nowhere
[02:53] <owner> otherwise it doesnt upgrade properly
[02:53] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: try recalling what you did last to make it not work
[02:53] <Arcanimus> the last thing i did that i remember of is edit fstab and install automounter
[02:54] <Arcanimus> aside from that i can't imagine anything I could've done
[02:55] <_kaeru> owner: I should have done that?
[02:55] <owner> you still can
[02:55] <owner> try iut
[02:55] <owner> it
[02:56] <_kaeru> thanks
[02:56] <owner> do sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get -f dist-upgrade
[02:56] <_kaeru> owner: whats the -f for?
[02:56] <owner> fix
[02:56] <sorush20> how do I refresh the kubuntu menu?
[02:57] <owner> you have to do -f with kde 3.5 upgrade
[02:58] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, any ideas?
[02:59] <_kaeru> owner: i just did dist-upgrade and it looks like it hasn't done anythin
[02:59] <owner> it didnt give any error messages?
[02:59] <_kaeru> owner: nno
[03:00] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: well idk, maybe Xorg's error messages?
[03:00] <owner> kaeru try disabling full duplex in kde sound settings
[03:01] <owner> if u have it enabled
[03:01] <owner> that crashes artsd for me
[03:01] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, i don't see any error messages at all
[03:01] <Arcanimus> it just hangs :\
[03:01] <Arcanimus> and debug doesn't even show anything
[03:01] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: no, look at Xorg's error logs, I'm sure there are under your login home directory
[03:02] <_kaeru> owner: its not enabled
[03:03] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, ~/.xorg ?
[03:03] <Arcanimus> cuz i don't have that
[03:04] <Arcanimus> i have ~/.xorgerrors
[03:04] <Arcanimus> err
[03:04] <Arcanimus> .xsessionerrors
[03:04] <Arcanimus> * ~/.xsession-errors
[03:04] <Arcanimus> is that it?
[03:04] <hatake_kakashi> probably
[03:05] <Arcanimus> ok lemme try this out then
[03:05] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi,
[03:05] <Arcanimus> pulse@linux:~$ tail .xsession-errors
[03:05] <Arcanimus> kbluetoothd: HciSocket::open()
[03:05] <Arcanimus> kbluetoothd: Bind failed: No such device
[03:05] <Arcanimus> there's just a lot of these..
[03:06] <Arcanimus> i don't even use bluetooth
[03:06] <hatake_kakashi> heh, might as well get rid of it
[03:06] <Arcanimus> truesay
[03:06] <hatake_kakashi> umm.. well idk then.
[03:06] <hatake_kakashi> maybe reinstalling firefox
[03:06] <Arcanimus> hmm but i have a similar thing in gaim with my display pic
[03:07] <Arcanimus> so maybe they're related?
[03:07] <Arcanimus> cuz it acts very similarly
[03:07] <Arcanimus> both involve reading/writing files..
[03:07] <Arcanimus> so maybe it's something to do with that?
[03:07] <Arcanimus> that would be my guess
[03:07] <Arcanimus> but I don't know what to do about it
[03:07] <hatake_kakashi> gaim uses gtk I last recall.. I'm not sure about firefox, maybe they are relying on gtk, if that's the case, you may want to check out the error logs for that
[03:07] <hatake_kakashi> if its not that check dmesg
[03:08] <sambagirl> hi i am running kubuntu on 1 computer. i have on my network 2 other computers that run windwos xp and i have apple computer and amiga.
[03:08] <Arcanimus> what's dmesg?
[03:08] <hatake_kakashi> man dmesg
[03:08] <sambagirl> is there a way i can have my windows computers see kubuntu computer?
[03:08] <Arcanimus> sambagirl, sounds like a computer zoo!~
[03:08] <Arcanimus> :)
[03:08] <sambagirl> i can see windows computers
[03:08] <sambagirl> but not otheway
[03:08] <sambagirl> iti s:)
[03:08] <Arcanimus> you need to install samba server :P
[03:08] <Arcanimus> and open the firewall
[03:08] <Arcanimus> if you have one
[03:08] <Arcanimus> to allow 137-139 TCP/UDP
[03:08] <sambagirl> whee?
[03:09] <sambagirl> where in wnidows computer?
[03:09] <Arcanimus> no on kubuntu
[03:09] <sambagirl> or kubuntu computer?
[03:09] <Arcanimus> and make sure you're on the same workgroup
[03:09] <sambagirl> i t running samba now.
[03:09] <Arcanimus> go to your shell and type "telnet localhost 139"
[03:09] <sambagirl> i am
[03:09] <Arcanimus> if it connects, that means samba is running
[03:09] <Arcanimus> if not then samba is just down
[03:09] <sambagirl> ok brb
[03:09] <Arcanimus> alright
[03:09] <hatake_kakashi> lsof| grep samba or smb
[03:10] <sambagirl> well ican see windows computer with ubuntu so that mens samba working, no?
[03:10] <Arcanimus> meh, telnet works
[03:10] <Arcanimus> :P
[03:10] <vge> hmm, how important is "kubuntu desktop", i mean, all bluetooth devices seems to lean on it?
[03:10] <Arcanimus> that means the samba client is
[03:10] <Arcanimus> not necessarily the server
[03:11] <Arcanimus> brb i'm going to restart my computer
[03:13] <sambagirl> ok i have to run up and down stairs to get to kubuntu computer so tell me how i turn on samba server?
[03:13] <sambagirl> please
[03:13] <sambagirl> i try the command it is not working telnet localhost 139
[03:14] <eidolon> does anyone grok udev?  the pattern match in the rules file - SYSFS{product} - what does that match against?
[03:14] <robotgeek> vge: it's a meta package to get your kde desktop all setup
[03:14] <sambagirl> localhost = loopback = 127.0.0.1 yes?
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> sambagirl: you may aswell run a remote session going on, its faster than exercising :P
[03:16] <sambagirl> ok
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> get a remote session on*
[03:16] <sambagirl> how?
[03:16] <hatake_kakashi> ssh/vnc/xdmcp/telnet etc
[03:16] <sambagirl> you mean in kubuntu or xp?
[03:17] <hatake_kakashi> either
[03:17] <hatake_kakashi> if you make kubuntu as server, its easier I suppose
[03:17] <sambagirl> well what i can do is logout here and go downstairs and open konversation.
[03:17] <sambagirl> huh?
[03:17] <sambagirl> no
[03:17] <sambagirl> well yes
[03:17] <sambagirl> well
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> with a remote session, you need to have a server and a client
[03:18] <sambagirl> cant you just do like start samba server
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> its probably /etc/init.d/smbd start
[03:18] <sambagirl> what about apache?
[03:19] <Arcanimus> i'm back :)
[03:19] <hatake_kakashi> find / -name 'name of file you want'
[03:19] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: did fix your problem?
[03:19] <Arcanimus> about to try now
[03:19] <sambagirl> how do i know what file i want? is why i am asking in here how to do it.
[03:20] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, nope.
[03:20] <sambagirl> le me go thry this brb
[03:20] <Arcanimus> :(
[03:20] <sambagirl> let me go try this brb
[03:20] <hatake_kakashi> heh bah.. I've got a bug in my fs.. lol
[03:22] <frank23> does anyone find Firefox 1.5 always eats up all the memory? I think it makes Xorg use memory too. Xorg is using 400 MBs right now
[03:22] <sambagirl> it failed when i tryed /etc/init.d/samba start
[03:22] <sambagirl> it say failed on side
[03:22] <sambagirl> why?
[03:23] <Arcanimus> frank23, firefox is a memory hog
[03:23] <Arcanimus> it's a known fact
[03:23] <Arcanimus> the only fix is using another browser
[03:23] <Arcanimus> :)
[03:23] <Arcanimus> try lynx :P
[03:23] <sambagirl> what is lynx
[03:24] <frank23> Arcanimus: yeah but it seems even worse lately. Maybe I'll try konqueror for a while
[03:24] <sambagirl> ok so i suppose samba will not work so that means i cannot access kubuntu computer from windows ever. oh well.
[03:24] <sambagirl> bbl chao
[03:24] <frank23> Arcanimus: which one do you use?
[03:24] <_grigory> awesome, its +10 outside and they're promising a snow storm tomorrow :D
[03:24] <Arcanimus> i use firefox but i'm having problems less so with memory usage
[03:24] <Arcanimus> i'm having problems with downloading stuff
[03:24] <Arcanimus> i only use lynx when i'm at school
[03:25] <Arcanimus> from my server
[03:25] <sambagirl> what is lynx
[03:25] <frank23> Arcanimus: Firefox crashes alot lately too.
[03:25] <_grigory> im trying to play video - it cant find codecs. how do i install them?
[03:25] <frank23> lynx is a text based browser
[03:25] <Arcanimus> yeah I know
[03:25] <Arcanimus> :P
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> lynx is a text browser
[03:25] <_grigory> lynx is awesome!
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> it doesn't display pictures properly :p
[03:25] <_grigory> you want to get weird looks - get lynx
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> err doesn't display pictures at all :?
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> :/
[03:25] <Arcanimus> LOL
[03:25] <sambagirl> there is always miami
[03:26] <Arcanimus> ah, a fellow sympatico user, humboldt
[03:26] <sambagirl> thas is wonderful browser
[03:26] <Arcanimus> :P
[03:26] <Arcanimus> never heard of miamy
[03:26] <sambagirl> but is for amiga only. but works wonderfully.
[03:26] <Arcanimus> *miami
[03:26] <_grigory> i like my firefox
[03:26] <Arcanimus> oh
[03:26] <humboldt> Does anybody know how to troubleshoot GLX with nvidia??
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> join #nvidia humboldt
[03:27] <_grigory> people, how do i install codecs? is there any codec packs, like K-Lite Codec pack, or some sort of similar thing
[03:27] <humboldt> the driver seems to work, since I have X and the logo shows up, but it does not load GLX
[03:27] <sambagirl> so what we do to make samba work?
[03:27] <sambagirl> does samba work for anyone?
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> I will get my samba working soon :p
[03:27] <rance> I use gentoo linux for some of my servers, and when you dont install X you need some form of irc, www, and dowloading access to update the server, and to ask questions, so lynx, wget, and irssi (or bitchx, depending on your distro) are essential tools to have around
[03:27] <sambagirl> aha
[03:27] <vge> _grigory: mplayer plugin for firefox: http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75817.html
[03:27] <hatake_kakashi> I'm getting other things
[03:28] <vge> someone can kick me if this is "bad"
[03:28] <Delphinus> kinda OT - but if a process say DNSMASQ is running under the user 'nobody' is that an issue?
[03:29] <rance> dnsmasq is a dns caching server for local networks, and it can be set up to run as the user "nobody" if you need it, its not a problem, if you dont, might as well turn it off
[03:31] <hatake_kakashi> its good that its running as nobody
[03:32] <_grigory> vge: firefox... mmm... i was actually thinking of playing movies, just downloaded some off torrentbytes
[03:32] <_grigory> thanks for the link though
[03:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hi there
[03:34] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i have inserted the following line in sources.list
[03:34] <Delphinus> yeah its on my monowall, and not working :(
[03:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main, why synaptics fgive me an error when analyzing the reps?
[03:35] <rance> speaking of dnsmasq, Ive got a question, if I have dnsmasq running on a server, can I set the server up to also check its own dns server for dns name resolution?
[03:35] <Tallia1Kubuntu> a gpg error: W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[03:36] <Delphinus> rance: thats what monowall does, it forwards DNS to your ISP's DNS server, but you can enter addresses that it reads first, and uses to override the ISPS DNS
[03:36] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what am i supposed to do? how can i install kde3.5
[03:36] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: visit kubuntu.org and get jonathen riddells key from this page
[03:36] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tallia1Kubuntu about kde 3.5
[03:37] <_grigory> ubotu: tell _grigory about kde 3.5
[03:38] <_grigory> aww, it corrected me
[03:40] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: this article was a way better.. http://www.madpenguin.org/cms/?m=show&id=5668
[03:41] <Tallia1Kubuntu> hoping that with kde3.5 i will resolve my problem with  matlab crashing :(
[03:43] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: that article leads to system breakage
[03:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: ?
[03:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> why?
[03:43] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: do you have a root account?
[03:43] <dell500> !mp3
[03:43] <ubotu> hmm... mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:43] <Tallia1Kubuntu> yes
[03:43] <dell500> !repos
[03:43] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[03:43] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: then your system is broken.
[03:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it was still downloading
[03:44] <dell500> !easysource
[03:44] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i stopped it now
[03:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what should i do?
[03:44] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: no, continue. i'll tell you how to fix it later
[03:44] <Tallia1Kubuntu> ?
[03:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can you tell me now, so, in case of problems i can fix it immediatly?
[03:45] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: "ubuntu linux" (and variants kubuntu, xubuntu, server-ubuntu etc) don't have an active root account. This was designed in with much thought
[03:45] <vge> how i install FF 1,5 and mplayer plugin for the program if i cant "really install firefox", the mplayer plugin is referring to folders that arent there?
[03:45] <nalioth> vge: make them.
[03:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i used the SUDO
[03:45] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: so you haven't enabled the root account?
[03:45] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: i have abilitated the root in past
[03:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> before*
[03:46] <johnflux_> hmm
[03:46] <Tallia1Kubuntu> but i used sudo anyway when i lunched the upgrade
[03:46] <johnflux_> I'm running konversation inside valgrind
[03:46] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Tallia1Kubuntu about roosudo
[03:46] <johnflux_> soooo much lag
[03:46] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: please read that page
[03:49] <_networker> Is anyone here familiar with Muse?
[03:49] <_networker> It's a midi sequencer.
[03:50] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: nalioth i read.. what now?
[03:51] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: well, it tells you how to disable the root account, but that also disables your 'rescue' option at boot
[03:51] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i saw..
[03:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> i disabled it
[03:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> for the recovery it doesn't matter, i can fix it later with knoppix
[03:52] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: sounds like you have a firm grasp of the situation
[03:52] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what about the installation? after the pgp downlaoding do i have only to launch a smart upgrade in synaptics?
[03:53] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: what do you mean with firm grasp? i dunno this english expression
[03:53] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: you know what you need to do, if you need to do it.
[03:54] <dell500> can someone tell me what i need to add to adept for the repos? multiverse isn't in there... not sure what i'm suppose to do, i'm on the addingreposhowto
[03:54] <Tallia1Kubuntu> nalioth: ? anyway, to install? do you confirm me only to smart upgrade?
[03:55] <_networker> WatchDog: fatal error, realtime task timeout
[03:55] <nalioth> Tallia1Kubuntu: yes smart upgrade (if using apt-get use dist-upgrade)
[03:55] <Tallia1Kubuntu> what's the problem with the standard upgrade?
[03:55] <nalioth> dell500: type alt-f2 > kdesu kate /etc/apt/fstab
[03:56] <nalioth> dell500: then find all the instances of "universe" and make it say "universe multiverse"
[04:00] <dell500> nalioth: didja mean sources.list?
[04:00] <dell500> thansk again
[04:00] <nalioth> dell500: yes that's what i meant
[04:00] <nalioth> i'm tired
[04:00] <Drakeson> what is the db root password for mysq-common ?
[04:01] <Drakeson> mysql that is
[04:08] <feld> Can anyone tell me why Kbuntu won't let me run Dual X screens with KDE? In Gentoo it initializes the other monitor at KDM's login.
[04:15] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi,
[04:15] <Arcanimus> you there?
[04:15] <hatake_kakashi> ?
[04:15] <Arcanimus> Ok I think I figured it out
[04:15] <Arcanimus> but I don't know how to fix it
[04:15] <Arcanimus> i'm almost 100% sure
[04:15] <Arcanimus> that the problem iks the GTK file-chooser
[04:15] <Arcanimus> that is common to many applications
[04:15] <Arcanimus> like when you select to save a file, or open a file, etc.
[04:15] <Arcanimus> that dialog with the file list doesn't work
[04:15] <Arcanimus> the file browser
[04:16] <Arcanimus> because I just found a 3rd application (GTK based) that also has the same problem
[04:16] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[04:16] <Arcanimus> they all freeze up at that stage
[04:16] <Arcanimus> maybe I should reinstall gtk?
[04:17] <heartbt> quiet night.
[04:18] <heartbt> any suggestions on a pcmcia wireless g card?  needing new one soon.
[04:18] <heartbt> very quiet night.
[04:19] <Arcanimus> not really no :P
[04:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell heartbt about wireless
[04:19] <Arcanimus> uhh pcmcia wireless card eh... NetGear is not so bad
[04:19] <nalioth> heartbt: make your choice
[04:19] <Arcanimus> D-Link is also good
[04:19] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Arcanimus about wireless
[04:20] <Arcanimus> ?
[04:20] <nalioth> Arcanimus: don't guess, get the facts
[04:20] <Arcanimus> Which facts would these be...
[04:20] <Arcanimus> I'm just talking about in general
[04:20] <heartbt> nalioth not looking for compatibility, I'm a little beyond that, I'm looking for some PERSONAL opinions.
[04:20] <Arcanimus> that's what I assumed
[04:20] <Arcanimus> I was working at a computer store last summer
[04:20] <hatake_kakashi> Arcanimus: not quite sure, I suppose you could give reinstalling a try
[04:21] <nalioth> heartbt: i bought the zonet usb one that is on that page and it works like a charm natively
[04:22] <heartbt> nalioth, never thought of going usb.  How about durable?  I commute quite a bit with school?
[04:22] <nalioth> heartbt: it's about 1.5 inches long total (quite stubby)
[04:23] <heartbt> I will take a look at that one as well.
[04:23] <heartbt> thanks
[04:25] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, reinstalling didn't help :(
[04:25] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[04:25] <Arcanimus> gah... I can't think of any way to fix this
[04:25] <Arcanimus> I don't even understand why GTK's file browser just suddenly wouldn't work
[04:26] <boow> whats does it mean by breezy-updates
[04:27] <thoreauputic> boow: bug fixes, basically
[04:27] <dell500> boow: updates for breezy
[04:27] <boow> how do i get them
[04:27] <thoreauputic> !tell boow about repos
[04:28] <thoreauputic> boow: they should be there in your /etc/sources.list
[04:28] <boow> ok so i add breezy-updates there
[04:28] <daaaman64> i can't seem to play wmv's I always get an error in mplayer, is there something else I should have isntalled?  other vids work fine
[04:28] <boow> let me look
[04:30] <daaaman64> all it says is mplayer crashed, if you think it is mplayers falt to a bug report.
[04:31] <boow> im an idiot i should have known that
[04:35] <Jeezis> is there a graphic equalizer for kubuntu? i need something to adjust the bass and treble etc levels
[04:36] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, i seem to have both GTK 1.2 and GTK 2 installed
[04:36] <Arcanimus> but nothing is said to be conflicting
[04:36] <Arcanimus> do you think it can be an issue?
[04:37] <boow> you can have gtk and gtk2 installed at the same time
[04:37] <hatake_kakashi> mmh.. that I would leave it to the guys that do gtk.. if that doesn't help I suppose getting rid of the old one might
[04:41] <Arcanimus> i just don't know what else to do
[04:41] <Arcanimus> this is very annoying - i can't select files at all
[04:41] <Arcanimus> in applications I use the most such as firefox and gaim
[04:41] <Arcanimus> :@
[04:42] <Tm_T> Konqueror & Kopete <3
[04:42] <Tm_T> ;)
[04:43] <Arcanimus> ewwwwww konqueror
[04:43] <Arcanimus> and same to kopete
[04:43] <Arcanimus> i'd rather focus on fixing my problem
[04:43] <hatake_kakashi> at least konqueror is better than IE ;)
[04:43] <Arcanimus> than just averting it by using crappier software
[04:43] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[04:43] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, keywords "at least"
[04:43] <Arcanimus> :P
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> well
[04:44] <hatake_kakashi> maybe try #gtk ?
[04:45] <Arcanimus> thanks, i'll give that a try
[04:45] <Arcanimus> but there's not many people in there
[04:47] <firemaker103> so.. since i'm new.. what comes with kubuntu?
[04:47] <hatake_kakashi> kubuntu.org
[04:47] <Tm_T> firemaker103: base system, desktop, office, most of what regular user needs
[04:47] <Tm_T> yeah, including multimedia and games
[04:48] <firemaker103> Well, i knew that, but thanks anyway
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[04:48] <hatake_kakashi> what's the point of asking then?
[04:49] <Tm_T> firemaker103: so what you're asking then? what you need to know
[04:49] <firemaker103> well, what internet browser does it come with?
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> konqueror
[04:49] <firemaker103> Does it come with WINE?
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> but you can install your own
[04:49] <Tm_T> firemaker103: no, but easily installed
[04:49] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get
[04:50] <Tm_T> apt-magic
[04:52] <Arcanimus> stupid gtk.
[05:02] <hatake_kakashi> hmm webmin in repos is messed up
[05:04] <hatake_kakashi> anyone tried webmin that was in the universe repos? my suggestion is best to get the latest one from the originating site instead
[05:23] <duckdown> Hey all..  Is there any way for me to upgrade my Xorg?  I want some of those Shadows/Transparency features but when I try to activate them, it tells me I need a newer version
[05:23] <duckdown> \
[05:25] <duckdown> Dapper 3 huh? Is it useable?
[05:25] <duckdown> or highly unstable
[05:25] <ilba7r> !dapper
[05:25] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[05:25] <duckdown> :S
[05:27] <_grigory> new Kopete is good
[05:27] <duckdown> ooh me want
[05:27] <duckdown> i like Kopetw
[05:27] <_grigory> yeah, i used to dislike it
[05:27] <_grigory> but now
[05:27] <_grigory> aww
[05:27] <_grigory> pretty
[05:28] <_grigory> better
[05:28] <_grigory> !
[05:28] <ubotu> _grigory: Wish i knew
[05:28] <duckdown> I like it better than GAIM
[05:28] <duckdown> exactly, its pretty
[05:28] <_grigory> GAIM is ugly
[05:28] <duckdown> How are you using it? your using KDE 3.5 ?
[05:28] <duckdown> yeah exactly!
[05:28] <_grigory> yes
[05:28] <duckdown> its so fugly
[05:28] <_grigory> KDE 3.5
[05:28] <duckdown> cool, Dapper 3?
[05:28] <duckdown> I wanna install it on a new partition
[05:29] <_grigory> uum.. what? :) im really new to that linux thing(3rd day using it), so dont know all the software yet :D
[05:29] <duckdown> n/m :-0
[05:29] <duckdown> i'm a noober too
[05:29] <duckdown> hehe
[05:29] <_grigory> i just did the full update in Adept, took a while, rebooted and whoot, KDE 3.5 and pretty Kopetes are everywhere
[05:30] <duckdown> neat
[05:30] <_grigory> yeah, i love how everything works here
[05:30] <_grigory> aww, wasted years under windows :D
[05:30] <duckdown> I'm going to try the new Kubuntu
[05:31] <duckdown> Yeah me too
[05:31] <duckdown> Damn Windows.
[05:31] <duckdown> only good for gaming
[05:31] <_grigory> yeah :D
[05:31] <_grigory> try new Kopete, u'll love it
[05:31] <duckdown> :) Anyways thanks for the advice, I'm definitely gonna install :D
[05:31] <duckdown> BRB
[05:31] <hatake_kakashi> has anyone setup samba to run smbd as itself without having to use another user's login?
[05:40] <dandielionous> hello
[05:40] <dandielionous> I was wondering what the "`" in front of `./config means.
[05:40] <dandielionous> ?
[05:41] <dandielionous> Does that mean I am writing that file?
[05:43] <nalioth> dandielionous: where do you see that?
[05:44] <dandielionous> I've been trying to install gaim 2.0
[05:44] <dandielionous> It's in the instructions.
[05:44] <dandielionous> The file `configure.ac' is used to create `configure' by a program
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> it means to run them from outside the program
[05:45] <dandielionous> I'm sorry to be a little slow.
[05:45] <dandielionous> Does that mean I type in the `.
[05:45] <hatake_kakashi> like grep foo `ls -al`
[05:45] <dandielionous> Or to just type the command .
[05:46] <vge> its like saying do the thing inside the prackets
[05:46] <dandielionous> Is there somewhere I could study that because I'm not getting what you mean.
[05:46] <dandielionous> Oh okay I understand that vge .
[05:47] <dandielionous> So I would just type configure.ac?
[05:47] <hatake_kakashi> dandielionous: Bash HOWTO
[05:47] <dandielionous> When I type anything with "`" in front of it; it gives me lines starting with >.
[05:48] <dandielionous> I think it wants me to write the program.
[05:48] <dandielionous> Bash HOWTO ty hatake_kakashi .
[05:50] <hatake_kakashi> anyone setup any sort of daemon to run on its own login? eg. smbd is logged in as samba?
[05:52] <hatake_kakashi> :/
[06:07] <dandielionous> I got the configure to start running.  But it tells me it can't find an acceptable C compiler.  Is that something I need to install?
[06:07] <dandielionous> It says no gcc no cc no cc.
[06:09] <dandielionous> Hello dark_suic :)
[06:10] <thoreauputic> dandielionous:  install build-essential
[06:11] <dandielionous> ty thoreauputic .
[06:11] <dandielionous> I do sudo apt-get install build-essential thoreauputic ?
[06:12] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: yes
[06:12] <dandielionous> ty thoreauputic it's working now.
[06:12] <thoreauputic> that installs gcc g++ make and some debian stuff for package building etc
[06:12] <thoreauputic> a basic compiling toolkit in other words
[06:12] <dandielionous> Good that's exactly what I'm looking for thoreauputic .
[06:13] <thoreauputic> I suggest installing checkinstall as well
[06:13] <thoreauputic> it builds a deb and installs it for you
[06:13] <ilba7r> dh_make is good also thoreauputic
[06:14] <thoreauputic> you jsut use "sudo checkinstall"  instead of "sudo make install "
[06:14] <dandielionous> ty so much easier is what I'm looking for.
[06:14] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: I'm not familiar with dh_make
[06:14] <ilba7r> it is debian helper make
[06:15] <thoreauputic> what is its function? @ ilba7r
[06:15] <thoreauputic> ah OK
[06:15] <dandielionous> sudo checkinstall didn't work.
[06:15] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: you need ./configure ; make   first :)
[06:15] <dandielionous> lol okay ty
[06:15] <ilba7r> dandielionous, you need ./configure make first
[06:16] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, it will make all the debian rules for you so you can later run dpkg-buildpackage
[06:16] <dandielionous> so I write "./configure; make checkinstall"
[06:16] <ilba7r> thoreauputic, let me give you a link wait
[06:16] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: no
[06:17] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: type ./configure  wait for the configure,  then type  make
[06:17] <dandielionous> ok
[06:17] <thoreauputic> then if all that works OK type sudo checkinstall
[06:18] <ilba7r> http://www.debian.org/doc/maint-guide/ch-start.en.html#s-needprogs
[06:18] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: thanks, will bookmark it :)
[06:18] <dandielionous> Okay.  Ty thoreauputic
[06:19] <dandielionous> I am configuring. :)
[06:19] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: most errors with ./configure mean you neeed -dev libararies ( libfoo-dev or whatever)
[06:19] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: do you know about apt-get build-dep ?
[06:20] <sampan> is it normal for a GRC-"shields up" port scan to say that my system is probing them back as they probed me?  i haven't installed anything other then firestarter on here, so i'm wondering why my box would be probing them back?
[06:20] <dandielionous> It told me GTK+ 2.0 is required.
[06:20] <dandielionous> No I don't know about apt-get build-dep.
[06:20] <thoreauputic> sampan: perhaps you set something in the prefs - mostly the defaults work fine
[06:21] <thoreauputic> dandielionous: I suggest  sudo apt-get install apt-howto-en
[06:21] <dandielionous> Okay.
[06:21] <dandielionous> I thought I had done that.  But maybe not.
[06:21] <thoreauputic> then type apt-howto and read about apt in your browser :)
[06:21] <sampan> thoreauputic  i'm pretty sure i haven't messed with those firestarter prefs at all.  chkrootkit shows nothing, except for "searching for suspicious files/dirs": /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/volatile/.mounted
[06:21] <dandielionous> ty
[06:22] <thoreauputic> sampan: well I have firestarter here and it doesn't return that message on grc shields up
[06:22] <sampan> drat - that really makes me paranoid
[06:23] <thoreauputic> sampan: chrootkit I know nothing about except that it can return a lot of false positives
[06:23] <sampan> makes me wonder if i've been rooted and the rootkit is probing
[06:24] <sampan> i've never had any servers or listening things open though ...
[06:24] <thoreauputic> sampan: have you any reason to supect you've been rooted?
[06:24] <thoreauputic> I think you are Ok
[06:24] <sampan> no -- just paranoia about why my system would be pinging grc back ...
[06:25] <thoreauputic> oh it says you fail pings?
[06:25] <thoreauputic> if so, don't worry - it isn't a security issue at all
[06:25] <thoreauputic> Steve Gibson is a bit of a crank, frankly
[06:25] <sampan> sorry, my mispeaking.  no, it pings back.  but then it gives that second "fail" result: Unsolicited Packets: RECEIVED (FAILED) - Your system's personal security countermeasures unwisely attempted to probe us in response to our probes. While some users believe that "tracking down" the source of Internet probes is useful, experience indicates that there is little to gain and potentially much to lose. The wisest course of action is to
[06:25] <sampan> and i'm really wondering what "personal security countermeasures" those are -- since i haven't installed any
[06:25] <kkathman> hi sampan :)
[06:25] <sampan> hey kkathman :)
[06:26] <thoreauputic> sampan: no idea why firestarter would have anything to do with that
[06:26] <sampan> me either -- so that makes me wonder what the hell is going on
[06:26] <thoreauputic> sampan: try a different probe on another site - there are quite a few
[06:27] <sampan> and i'm pretty sure the last time i did that grc test (like a month ago?) it didn't give me that result
[06:27] <thoreauputic> sampan: if you aren't running servers, do you even need a firewall? Nothing would be listening
[06:28] <kkathman> hey there thoreauputic :)  LTNS  How are you?
[06:28] <sampan> thoreauputic  indeed.  and i'm not running any servers. but i installed it not even realizing that it was all different in linux (windows-refugee) -- and just assumed i needed one
[06:28] <thoreauputic> all this "stealth" crap Steve Gibson does is rubbish...
[06:29] <thoreauputic> kkathman: hi - how are you?
[06:29] <thoreauputic> I'm fine, more or less, today at least ;)
[06:29] <ilba7r> is synaptic synonom on kde adapet
[06:29] <nalioth> thoreauputic: hear hear, FUD for windoze (l)users
[06:29] <ilba7r> or adpet
[06:29] <sampan> thoreauputic  again, agreed.  i'm not worried about his stealth crap though.  I'm worried why my ubuntu is acting in a way that seems abnormal (it should NOT be counter-probing his site)
[06:30] <sampan> and so i asked if there was a good reason why ubuntu would be doing that ... if not, then what are the possibilities for that behavior?
[06:30] <sampan> unlikely or not, if being rooted is the only possibility, then i am -quite- worried
[06:31] <thoreauputic> nalioth: he's clever though - seeing all those nice green boxes gives me a warm glow ;-) <sarcasm>
[06:31] <ilba7r> the front end for apt in kde is it adapt, adpet i need the correct spelling
[06:31] <thoreauputic> adept
[06:31] <ilba7r> thanx thoreauputic
[06:32] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: ad <tab> <tab>   ( grin)
[06:32] <sampan> so, i'm kinda asking my question again, is there any known reason (or commonly installed packages?) that would cause my box to exhibit that behavior?
[06:32] <ilba7r> lol am not using neither gnome nor kde sorry thoreauputic and am trying to help a guy
[06:33] <thoreauputic> sampan: don't know - personally I would rerun the firestarter preferences and check if you have some things enabled that you didn't know about
[06:33] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: ah - well tell him to use tab then ;)
[06:34] <ilba7r> or for short cut great thanx thoreauputic
[06:34] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: tab is our friend :)
[06:34] <boow> ok on that automount thing i've discovered kde 3.5's automounting conflicts with ivman cd's mount fine but dvd movies refuse to auto play
[06:34] <ilba7r> i use it a lot on ion3 and xchat so i defenitly agree
[06:35] <boow> anyone else have that problem with certain media not automounting or autoplaying
[06:36] <thoreauputic> sampan: check in firestarter to see if any ICMP options are enabled - I leave them all unchecked
[06:36] <sampan> thoreauputic  i have.  i've checked them three times.  there's nothign in there that even remotely sounds like it would counter-probe or even send a reply.  the "Drop silently" box is CHECKED.
[06:36] <sampan> and yes, ICMP is all blank
[06:36] <thoreauputic> hmm dunno then
[06:37] <sampan> yeah -- and if no one else gets that weird message on grc... then ... well, i start to get -really- paranoid
[06:37] <sampan> :/
[06:37] <kkathman> thoreauputic: I am doing well, thanks. :)
[06:37] <thoreauputic> kkathman: :)
[06:38] <thoreauputic> sampan: get someone to nmap you then
[06:38] <thoreauputic> sampan: I would, but on dialup it's very slow
[06:39] <sampan> :)  any other volunteers?
[06:39] <sampan> lol
[06:39] <thoreauputic> it was a joke, honest, truly.... :D
[06:40] <thoreauputic> hmm I misspelled black too
[06:40] <sampan> we read typo ;)
[06:48] <sampan> well that's even weirder.  when i re-ran the test for the 4th time, but this time using firefox instead of konq, now the unsolicited packets section passes
[06:48] <sampan> so konq is somehow doing it?
[06:49] <thoreauputic> sampan: more likely grc has a problem of some kind I think
[06:49] <sampan> good grief -- now konq isn't doing it either
[06:49] <thoreauputic> hahah
[06:49] <sampan> LOL
[06:49] <thoreauputic> as I said...
[06:50] <sampan> i'm suing for raised blood-pressure and emotional traumea
[06:50] <sampan> trauma*
[06:50] <thoreauputic> I would use another scanning site personally - there are quite a few out there
[06:51] <sampan> yeah ... either i've been hacked and the hacker was watching my chat and turned some option off or grc just laid a big turd for those 4 tests i ran
[06:51] <sampan> lol -- what a joy
[06:52] <thoreauputic> sampan: I would turn the paranoia meter down a bit if I were you ;)
[06:53] <sampan> perhaps i should ... but i do have a lot of sensitive data on here (both academic and personal/financial) ... and frankly, linux security is -way- over my head
[06:54] <sampan> so best i can do is take any out-of-the-ordinary signs seriously :/  and that counter-probing seemed quite out of the ordinary
[06:55] <thoreauputic> sampan: how is a cracker going to crack your box if no ports are listening on the internet?
[06:55] <thoreauputic> Ubuntu shis that way by default
[06:55] <thoreauputic> *ships
[06:56] <thoreauputic> unless of course you did something silly like accepting a binary DCC and running it , or similar
[06:57] <sampan> thoreauputic yeah i know this.  but there MUST be other vectors than just that -- many apps that i do use to connect to the web do have security holes that could be used, no?  i do apply security updates, but that doesn't mean it's impossible to be cracked
[06:57] <sampan> lol -- i'm not quite that newb to run a dcc-ed file
[06:57] <thoreauputic> sampan: hrm..... I'm less paranoid than you are I guess :) I just run my updates and trust Ubuntu to get them right
[06:58] <thoreauputic> sampan: I didn't think you were that "newb" - I was just throwing up scenarios ;)
[06:59] <thoreauputic> gee, Steve wants everyone to click through a lot of crap to get to shields-up...
[06:59] <sampan> thoreauputic  *nod*  i know i'm over-concerned sometimes.  but part of that is a function of feeling a bit lost with linux security.  often i'm not even sure what "normal" is.  take a simple: netstat -tl (listening ports, right?)  i get three -- one is loopback but the other two?  one of them if i use sudo netstat -tl loops back to a 3rd internal ip, but that 3rd one just dangles
[07:00] <sampan> err, take a simple example...
[07:00] <sampan> so i see that and go "hrmmm..." what is it?  and i don't even know how to find out :)
[07:00] <sampan> just feel lost and that promotes paranoia
[07:01] <thoreauputic> sampan: install iftop (simple app) and then run sudo -BP -i eth0 ( or ppp0 for ppp)
[07:01] <thoreauputic> it tells you what is uploading/downloading
[07:01] <thoreauputic> with bandwidth etc
[07:01] <thoreauputic> sorry   sudo iftop -BP -i eth0
[07:02] <thoreauputic> i left out the important bit :)
[07:02] <sampan> excellent!  that's a nifty sounding app from the description
[07:02] <thoreauputic> it just runs in a terminal like "top"
[07:03] <thoreauputic> hah - grc just 'passed" me despite the fact that I don't have pings turned off
[07:03] <thoreauputic> methinks grc.com has problems today
[07:05] <sampan> that's a very useful app -- like that a lot :)
[07:06] <thoreauputic> yes, I use it quite a bit :)
[07:08] <thoreauputic> can someone ping 203.164.106.105  ?
[07:09] <sampan> and i'm grateful for the double-checking on grc too :)  i can go back to my regular-coffee level of paranoia instead of double-cappuchino-esspresso-blend level
[07:09] <thoreauputic> hahah :)
[07:09] <sampan> ;)  pinging now
[07:09] <Tallia1Kubuntu> can someone explain me why my matlab that worked perfectly in the past now it crashes after a few times that i press ctrl + v to paste an item?
[07:10] <ilba7r> pinging here
[07:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> it have to be a problem related to X server
[07:10] <sampan> thoreauputic  pings seem normal
[07:10] <thoreauputic> OK so grc.com has a problem
[07:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> since i installed the same version of matlab that i had ffew months ago
[07:10] <thoreauputic> sampan: I would relax now :)
[07:10] <psyk> if im trying to progrsam with liberty basic
[07:10] <psyk> what do i get
[07:10] <Tallia1Kubuntu> does anyone know what could be to generate this problem?
[07:11] <psyk> i want to right code in kate and than somehow compile it
[07:11] <psyk> with basic how do i do this
[07:11] <thoreauputic> psyk: basic is a windows thing
[07:11] <sampan> thoreauputic  yeah -- seems like grc is the culprit ... and my blood pressure is rapidly returning to normal -- yay!
[07:12] <thoreauputic> psyk: the nearest thing in linux would be gambas  (gambas is almost basic )
[07:14] <thoreauputic> psyk didn't want to hear that, apparently...
[07:14] <sampan> :/  can't always have the answer people want to hear!
[07:15] <thoreauputic> indeed
[07:17] <sampan> see -- don't let my paranoia get to you thoreauputic!  resist it!
[07:17] <sampan> ;)
[07:17] <thoreauputic> odd - I used to be able to use ifconfig as user, now  all my sbin dirs are no longer in my PATH
[07:18] <ilba7r> sampan, seems i am more paranoied than you. Created a user account just to access the net. nothing else for this user
[07:18] <thoreauputic> ilba7r: sensible idea really
[07:19] <sampan> ilba7r  oooooooh, see -- now that is something that i can see myself doing!
[07:19] <sampan> (if i was savvy enough to have actually thought of it!)
[07:19] <ilba7r> though i knwo linux is secure but try to make it harder to whoever wana hack on less than 10% of the market ;)
[07:20] <sampan> ilba7r  do you have to switch sessions or just run multiple sessions when you're online and doing something else too?
[07:21] <ilba7r> sampan, i use the gdmflexiserver. ^ alt f8 for the web user ^ alt f7 for the regular user
[07:21] <ilba7r> so basically different virtual terminals
[07:21] <sampan> nice
[07:22] <olaff> can someone help me with this?         http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/515738
[07:23] <thoreauputic> bizarre - my path has spontaneously changed back to what it was before ....
[07:23] <ilba7r> olaff install libmotif
[07:23] <ilba7r> i think it is libmotif3
[07:23] <sampan> i don't wish that on ANYONE
[07:24] <olaff> ok ty
[07:24] <psyk> say im tryiung to right Basic code.. as in liberty basic
[07:24] <psyk> how do i go about getting the software that i needd
[07:24] <thoreauputic> for some reason it wasn't sourcing /etc/profile it seems...
[07:24] <thoreauputic> psyk: I thought I answered that?
[07:24] <ilba7r> yw :)
[07:25] <psyk> sorry i think i left
[07:25] <psyk> can you tell me again pleease
[07:25] <thoreauputic> psyk: Basic isn't a linux thing - I guess you could write it, but beyond that I don't know what you could do with it
[07:25] <thoreauputic> gambas is a linux approximation to basic
[07:26] <thoreauputic> Gambas is AlMost Basic
[07:26] <thoreauputic> but why use basic when there are other, better languages ?
[07:26] <sampan> night ilba7r
[07:27] <thoreauputic> night ilba7r :)
[07:33] <DJ_Mer_> how do i turn off xserver to do a driver update?
[07:33] <DJ_Mer_> or rather, stop it for a moment? lol
[07:34] <thoreauputic> DJ_Mer_:  sudo /etc/init.d/kdm stop
[07:34] <DJ_Mer_> thoreauputic: thank you muches
[07:34] <thoreauputic> that will drop you out of X suddenly though - be prepeared
[07:34] <Qalimas> Is there a Gaim with a QT interface, or a better KDE IM client other than Kopete?
[07:34] <thoreauputic> *prepared
[07:34] <DJ_Mer_> thoreauputic: i know, i just forgot it
[07:34] <thoreauputic> OK :)
[07:38] <DJ_Mer_> okay, well that went unsucessful... I am trying to install nvidia drivers because kubuntu does not seem to recognize my Geforce 2
[07:38] <DJ_Mer_> an odd situation considering this car is older than the earth itself and should be recognizable... any solutions anyone?
[07:38] <thoreauputic> !nvidia
[07:38] <ubotu> nvidia is, like, totally, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[07:38] <DJ_Mer_> thoreauputic: i love you.
[07:38] <thoreauputic> :)
[07:39] <thoreauputic> OK time to go - have fun all
[07:43] <hatake_kakashi> sambagirl: I've got my samba server partially working :p
[09:15] <hussam> did these packages ship with the kubuntu CD. I want to remove them ( kubuntu does not depend on them ). but I'll keep them if they shiped with the CD:
[09:15] <hussam> qt3-assistant kpovmodeler kdf noatun kaboodle kdeadmin kdat kdvi valgrind
[09:15] <hussam> anybody knows?
[09:17] <dibbon> Hello, if I have a partition I would like to use as my /home (it's already there), will Kubuntu wreck everything if I select it as my home on installing?
[09:17] <Chousuke> dibbon: it shouldn't
[09:17] <Chousuke> as long as you don't touch the filesystem and partition in any way other than selecting it to be mounted as /home
[09:18] <dibbon> Yeah, but does it reformat everything just to be reformatty
[09:19] <Chousuke> it doesn't if you tell it not to.
[09:19] <Chousuke> err
[09:19] <Chousuke> actually, it doesn't if you don't tell it to
[09:19] <hatake_kakashi> shouldn't
[09:20] <Chousuke> just make sure you don't select the wrong menu entries.
[09:20] <Chousuke> :P
[09:20] <dibbon> I guess I'll give Kubuntu a try
[09:21] <Chousuke> The safest bet would be not touching the partition during installation at all, and modifying fstab manually after installation
[09:22] <dibbon> I wasn't sure how that would go because then I would be using the /home/ on the root partition
[09:46] <danrom> hello channel
[09:46] <DJ_Mer_> hello danrom
[09:47] <danrom> I am running AMD64 wirelessly
[09:47] <danrom> My wep is Hex but when i hit ok the system switches it back to ascii
[09:49] <danrom> this keaps me from connecting to my network
[09:53] <danrom> lo aline
[09:53] <aline> hmm ?
[09:55] <danrom> I am running AMD64 wirelessly
[09:55] <danrom> My wep is Hex but when i hit ok the system switches it back to ascii
[09:55] <danrom> this keaps me from connecting to my network
[09:56] <danrom> any one willing to help?
[10:02] <hussam> I wish there was a CD2 with all the other packages in main that are not in the kubuntu or Ubuntu CDs
[10:04] <reon> Anybody got a good kubuntu font guide ? The defaults suck
[10:24] <picochu> hello?
[10:33] <DarkNoise> hi, i just installed kubuntu ppc on my laptop, is there someway to stop it booting directly into the gui?
[10:33] <stisev> hey guys
[10:33] <stisev> I need quick help
[10:37] <kmon> Hi, I've installed flight cd3 & dist-upgraded, but apparently I have installed gstreamer0.8 & not 0.10. I thought dapper was going to go with 0.10 as default. Any ideas?
[10:46] <DJ_Mer_> Insomniac-: you there?
[10:48] <PsySine-> hi i have problems with sound under x86_64, the kde-souds seem to work but nothing in amarok or kaffeine works both with gstreamer and xine. i have installedd w32codecs with --force-architecture
[10:50] <PsySine-> .oog works but not mp3
[10:51] <PsySine-> the video of an avi works but not the sound
[10:53] <PsySine-> ah i needed to install libmad0
[10:59] <hussam> Anybody here upgraded to kde3.5 on breezy?
[10:59] <jpatrick> hussam: me
[11:00] <hatake_kakashi> hmm, anyone noticed that smbclient tends to break somewhat easily? (KDE 3.4.3 on Breezy)
[11:00] <hussam> jpatrick: how stable is it?
[11:00] <jpatrick> hussam: very stable to me :)
[11:00] <hussam> jpatrick: I'm thinking whether I should upgrade to dapper or get kde 3.5 on breezy.
[11:02] <jpatrick> up to you...
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> anyone using komba2?
[11:04] <sigmo> hola
[11:04] <sigmo> buenos dias, soy usuario novato, tengo instalado ubuntu y quiero pasarme a kubuntu
[11:05] <sigmo> pero en synaptic no est el paquete kubuntu-desktop
[11:05] <sigmo> alguien me puede decir alguna direccion para aadir a las sources
[11:06] <sigmo> :) gracias
[11:06] <jpatrick> !es
[11:06] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:06] <jpatrick> hello Zerlinna
[11:09] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: good morning :-)
[11:10] <jpatrick> morning
[11:11] <sigmo> sorry
[11:11] <jpatrick> sigmo: no pasa nada
[11:11] <sigmo> I didn't know that. Thanks
[11:18] <icheyne> hi
[11:18] <icheyne> after upgrading to Breezy
[11:19] <icheyne> my british keyboard has become a US keyboard
[11:19] <icheyne> and I can't change back
[11:19] <icheyne> anyone know how I can fix it?
[11:19] <jpatrick> System Settigns
[11:20] <icheyne> they don't work
[11:20] <icheyne> tried that
[11:20] <icheyne> :(
[11:29] <nlindblad> morning
[11:35] <jpatrick> nlindblad: morning
[11:35] <nlindblad> jpatrick: morning mate
[11:36] <jpatrick> nlindblad: I've just had a smashing idea on how you can help Kubuntu
[12:38] <stoned> hi
[12:38] <stoned> I just installed ubuntu server
[12:39] <socketbind> hi stoned
[12:39] <stoned> I added the deb to sources
[12:39] <stoned> i don't want kubuntu-desktop
[12:39] <stoned> rather, just kde-core but 3.5, not 3.4
[12:39] <DexterF> hi
[12:39] <socketbind> hi dexterF
[12:39] <stoned> how would i go about it, do i need to pin kubuntu ?
[12:40] <socketbind> I always upgraded from 3.4 -> 3.5 but it probably can be installed as 3.5 right away without kubuntu-desktop
[12:41] <DexterF> I'm in breezy, would like to upgrade to dapper - I put dapper sources into the list and updated - now, what next? apt-get dist-upgrade dapper or kust apt-get upgrade?
[12:41] <stoned> oh so you are not a bot
[12:41] <DexterF> *just
[12:41] <socketbind> I'm just polite
[12:41] <socketbind> :D
[12:41] <stoned> its cool actually
[12:41] <stoned> you don't expect this kind of decency in the world anymore
[12:41] <stoned> so i naturally assumed it was a greeting bot
[12:41] <stoned> sorry
[12:41] <socketbind> np :)
[12:42] <jpatrick> DexterF: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:42] <socketbind> well stoned, you should check what dependencies kubuntu-desktop has and install only the kde based stuff from the repo
[12:42] <DexterF> only 643MB to fetch! joy! :)
[12:42] <stoned> i mean i guess i could install kubuntu, though i hardly use any kde apps cept a few
[12:43] <socketbind> well if you have enough space you shouldn't make problem of it, install the entire thing it won't hurt you :)
[12:44] <stoned> well
[12:44] <socketbind> or you can install with the server parameter when booting the cd, look after which kde packages are really needed then install them
[12:44] <socketbind> and you're done with it
[12:44] <DexterF> stoned: well, if you use them regularly kde is a good choice. running gnome and calling kde apps it will first fire up the dcop server which needs a truckload of libs which all happily hog your mem/cpu in *addition* to gnome
[12:44] <stoned> i could create /apt/preferences and prioritize kubuntu
[12:44] <stoned> is that safe?
[12:45] <socketbind> ahh sorry I misunderstanded the question at some level :)
[12:45] <stoned> DexterF: fuck gnome to begin with, even since kde3.5 came out, I stopped using xfce4, and i've always hated gnome
[12:45] <socketbind> I'm getting old or very tired or whatever :D
[12:45] <stoned> socketbind: misunderstood*
[12:46] <socketbind> sry I dunno how could I write that, my grammar gets even worse :D
[12:46] <stoned> how old are you
[12:46] <DexterF> stoned: uh.. well, I'm with the fuck-gnome-team, just assumed that since that's the two big desktops with ubuntu..
[12:46] <socketbind> just eighteen but with school I'm aging with an extreme rate
[12:46] <stoned> DexterF: you just made an ass out of u & me
[12:47] <marwan> Hello
[12:47] <stoned> hola
[12:47] <marwan> i have problem with my Kubuntu
[12:48] <DexterF> stoned: you *are* stoned, right? it is spelled "y-o-u", not "u", we're not bloody quakenet
[12:48] <stoned> as i was asking, if i pin kubuntu with say 999 on apt/pref.. and do install kde-core, it SHOULD install 3.5 right
[12:49] <jpatrick> stoned: it should get kde 3.5 from kubuntu.org (breezy)
[12:49] <marwan> i have modem card but when i connect it tell me busy every time
[12:49] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[12:49] <ubotu> hmm... kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[12:49] <stoned> DexterF: "when you assume, you make an ass out of 'U' and 'ME' "ASS"U"ME".  before you go off on people try and comprehend what they are trying to say
[12:49] <stoned> you don't make an ass out of YOU and ME because YOU isn't in ASSUME
[12:50] <stoned> don't you feel like an idiot now
[12:50] <stoned> next time, if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it
[12:50] <stoned> :)
[12:50] <mth`MAW> Hello
[12:50] <marwan> Stond can you help me with this?
[12:50] <stoned> i can try bro
[12:50] <stoned> whats up
[12:51] <socketbind> marwan: it does not detect dial tone?
[12:51] <marwan> i have modem card in my PC but when i try to connect it tel me busy
[12:51] <stoned> marwan: i don't have a clue, im a noob
[12:52] <socketbind> device is busy or it says the line is busy?
[12:52] <marwan> the Modem is busy
[12:53] <marwan> the is the message that i got
[12:53] <stoned> i just installed ubuntu.  when I add your deb archive, and update, and do install kubuntu-desktop, I get broken depends, and it won't install
[12:53] <stoned> causes problems with a couple of kde apps, like konq-plugins etc.
[12:54] <socketbind> maybe something is using it marwan, what is the modem's device node? /dev/ttyX?
[12:54] <socketbind> you should try in a terminal this: lsof <device node of the modem>
[12:54] <socketbind> it should tell what is using it
[12:55] <ilba7r> marwan, most modems that come preinstalled on your mother board have problems. you can try from kppp test modem or as socketbind said. lsof /dev/modem
[12:55] <stoned> wtf is going on, I have never had this much shit with mixing stable/sid packages on debian
[12:55] <ilba7r> socketbind, normally there will be a symbolic link for hte modem
[12:55] <stoned> causes problems with a couple of kde apps, like konq-plugins etc.
[12:55] <stoned> i just installed ubuntu.  when I add your deb archive, and update, and do install kubuntu-desktop, I get broken depends, and it won't install
[12:55] <stoned> its crazy!
[12:55] <stoned> hair pulling time
[12:56] <marwan> ok i will try it
[12:56] <ilba7r> stoned what is your deb archive?
[12:56] <marwan> Thanks
[12:56] <stoned> the one from your website word for word
[12:56] <bimberi> stoned: are the other internet repos enabled - you might just have the CD plus the one you added
[12:56] <ilba7r> !tell stoned about easysource
[12:57] <stoned> bimberi: which ones should I turn off
[12:57] <stoned> ?
[12:58] <Parsnip> hi guys
[12:59] <Parsnip> just gonna download kubuntu to give it a whirl
[12:59] <bimberi> stoned: no, no would need them enabled
[12:59] <Parsnip> whats the difference between daper and breezy?
[12:59] <stoned> well then what should I do now
[01:00] <stoned> Im slowly loosing patience
[01:00] <stoned> feel like breaking something already
[01:00] <socketbind> calm down, there's no need for violence :D
[01:00] <bimberi> stoned: give us a look at your sources.list -> pastebin
[01:00] <stoned> bimberi: i can't get into X
[01:00] <stoned> im in console
[01:00] <bimberi> !pastebin cls
[01:00] <ubotu> bimberi: My cat's name is Mittens!
[01:00] <bimberi> !pastebin cli
[01:00] <ubotu> To use the pastebin from the command line: 1. "wget http://ubuntulinux.nl/files/pastebin "  2. "chmod +x pastebin"  3. "<command> | ./pastebin" (where <command> is something like dmesg or 'cat /etc/apt/sources.list')
[01:03] <Florian-T> Hi all
[01:03] <Florian-T> i'm trying to setup 2 soundcards
[01:03] <stoned> this is confusing
[01:03] <Florian-T> really?
[01:03] <marwan> hi again
[01:03] <stoned> wtf am I doing here.  ./pastebin "command" or command pipe ./pastebin?
[01:04] <stoned> doh, it is a pipe
[01:04] <Florian-T> my problem is that my onboard soundcard is preferred by kde and i have no idea how to change this
[01:05] <marwan> if i want to check the modem driver or if i want to know my drivers ?
[01:05] <marwan> from the shell
[01:05] <stoned> bimberi: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/4750
[01:06] <ilba7r> marwan, look at this link it is howto for setting up the modem https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DialupModemHowto
[01:06] <marwan> ok Thanks
[01:06] <stoned> damn its 6am again
[01:06] <ilba7r> marwan, and expect this to take some time unless you are really lucky :)
[01:07] <marwan> :)
[01:07] <bimberi> stoned: that's not a sources.list
[01:07] <stoned> bimberi: are you looking at it yet?
[01:07] <Florian-T> any idea how to fix that?
[01:08] <stoned> yes it is
[01:08] <socketbind> and pray that it isn't a connexant :D
[01:08] <ilba7r> socketbind, i installed connexant before. just need to get their drivers hsmodem or something like that can not remember it now
[01:09] <stoned> bimberi: how is not a sources.list
[01:09] <ilba7r> but opted from modem anyway so do not use it anymore. jusst for faxes
[01:09] <stoned> cat /etc/apt/sources.list | ./pastebin
[01:09] <stoned> thats what I ran
[01:09] <stoned> Idon't know what you see
[01:09] <ilba7r> stoend you pasted the error message
[01:09] <socketbind> ilba7r: is the driver still commercial?
[01:09] <ilba7r> yah i think so
[01:09] <stoned> what error message?
[01:09] <bimberi> stoned: ok, but i got a lot of commands errors climaxing with "dpkg: syntax error: unknown group `postdrop' in statusoverride file"
[01:10] <stoned> this is gay
[01:10] <stoned> :/
[01:10] <socketbind> I had a hard time with it previously and the 14.4kbit limit is very annoying
[01:10] <ilba7r> stoned you did not paste the file sources.list all i can see is the error messages
[01:10] <socketbind> but that was not kubuntu but fedora
[01:10] <stoned> is this what I am supposed to do?  "cat /etc/apt/sources.list | ./pastebin"
[01:11] <bimberi> !gay
[01:11] <bimberi> bah, i'll leave it as /msg
[01:11] <socketbind> still $19.99 lol
[01:11] <ilba7r> lol
[01:12] <stoned> so why do you need to look at my sources list
[01:12] <socketbind> I can understand that it will ensure that the project continues
[01:12] <stoned> its the default breezy sources list after 4 minutes of installing it, and just adding the kubuntu deb
[01:12] <socketbind> but I would never pay for a driver
[01:12] <ilba7r> stoned to see if there are any errors in it
[01:12] <stoned> what could possibly be wrong
[01:13] <stoned> i've got breezy main restricted, then security for breezy main rest. and then i have universe and then kubuntu
[01:13] <stoned> update returns no errors except gpg, which i can fix later
[01:14] <stoned> ilba7r: what kind of errors would you be looking for
[01:14] <ilba7r> stoned check if this exactly what you have for kubuntu repos
[01:14] <ilba7r> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[01:15] <ilba7r> stoned a comma extra letter that should not be there. those types of typos
[01:15] <ilba7r> but if the sudo apt-get update works fine than your source.list is ok
[01:16] <ilba7r> stoned from what you said i do not see multiverse in your source lis
[01:16] <ilba7r> t
[01:16] <stoned> ilba7r: i pretty sure i mentioned that there were no errors on updating
[01:16] <stoned> there is no multiverse
[01:17] <stoned> was never told/read/heard from anywhere
[01:17] <stoned> that i needed it
[01:17] <ilba7r> ok add it. breezy main universe multiverse
[01:17] <ilba7r> some packages that are being looked for might be there
[01:17] <stoned> how many repos are there
[01:18] <ilba7r> !repos
[01:18] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[01:18] <ilba7r> stoned follow ubotu link
[01:18] <ilba7r> and depend what you installed
[01:18] <stoned> universe/multiverse/string theory/grand unified theory
[01:18] <stoned> ilba7r: once again, Ican't follow anything, Im not in X
[01:18] <stoned> ilba7r: when i installed ubuntu, I didn't get manpages either
[01:19] <stoned> some other things were missing too
[01:19] <ilba7r> stoned did you have any poroblems on install. did x just quit or it never worked
[01:19] <stoned> ilba7r: no
[01:20] <stoned> I don't usually have problems with things that I know of
[01:20] <stoned> its debian based, I am quite comfortable with debian, 4 years now, but i don't know about ubuntu
[01:20] <stoned> i just now installed like 2 hours ago
[01:20] <DexterF> dapper has 2.6.15 and xorg7.0 already, right?
[01:20] <ilba7r> !dapper drake
[01:20] <ubotu> somebody said dapper drake was the 4th release for Ubuntu (ver. 6.04). For goals see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DapperGoals. To try without removing/breaking breezy see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebootstrapChroot. see warnings !dapper
[01:20] <djs> !info xserver-xorg dapper
[01:21] <ubotu> xserver-xorg: (the X.Org X server (dummy package)), section x11, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (dapper), Packaged size: 267 kB, Installed size: 700 kB
[01:21] <ilba7r> DexterF, see daper drake goals
[01:21] <DexterF> thanks
[01:21] <stoned> so there is just main, restricted, universe, and multiverse?
[01:21] <ilba7r> stoned pretty well that is it
[01:21] <ilba7r> and a ubuntu-backports but you do not need to enable it now
[01:22] <stoned> oh btw, i got it
[01:22] <stoned> if you don't ban me for this
[01:22] <ilba7r> take care
[01:22] <stoned> oh nm
[01:23] <ilba7r> stoned am not an admin. but no one get banned here
[01:23] <stoned> crap, im logged into this other machine for irc
[01:23] <stoned> i did /exec tail -n on sources list
[01:23] <stoned> heh
[01:24] <feistel> hi
[01:24] <stoned> hey, everything else with the dependency problems went away
[01:24] <ilba7r> great
[01:24] <stoned> but now it says only one app kamera that is causing the problem
[01:24] <feistel> when I create a new user, that user don't have permissions for /dev/dsp
[01:24] <ilba7r> stoned reinstall it
[01:24] <stoned> depends on kamera but it can't be installed
[01:24] <feistel> how I can repair that?
[01:24] <stoned> reinstall what?
[01:24] <ilba7r> kamera
[01:24] <stoned> it won't install
[01:25] <stoned> dome libgphoto2-2 but not gonna be intalled
[01:25] <stoned> some*
[01:26] <DexterF> feistel: well, I'd chgrp dsps to audio and make the user member of that group
[01:26] <stoned> i don't even want kubuntu man
[01:26] <stoned> i just want kde3.5 on ubuntu
[01:26] <stoned> specifically, kde-core 3.5
[01:26] <aurelien> Hello, I'm a neebie and I've some questions...
[01:26] <DexterF> unless debian/ubuntu have some config tool for that
[01:26] <ilba7r> stoned did you try to install kde instead of kubuntu at first?
[01:26] <Florian-T> stoned: put the kde repo in jour sources.list
[01:26] <stoned> yes, it wants to install 3.4
[01:27] <stoned> Florian-T: kubuntu deb in sources, already got it
[01:27] <aurelien> 1) How can I know which version of KDE is currenty installed ?
[01:27] <Florian-T> in most kde programs:
[01:27] <ilba7r> stoned that expalin it then. kde meta package is old. hardly maintained
[01:27] <Florian-T> the help menu
[01:27] <stoned> thats why i asked, if i PIn 999 for kubuntu debs in preferences, shouldn't it install packages from latest versios first
[01:27] <DexterF> aurelien: get familiar with package handlings tools. aptitude or synaptic for example.
[01:27] <jorik> hey i have a problem ... im trying to make a copy of a DVD and it says: "can't copy disc, cuz its copy-protected"
[01:28] <ilba7r> stoned for kamera just purge it and install kubuntu-desktop again it might be a dead package
[01:28] <stoned> i never had camera installed how the hell can i purge it
[01:28] <aurelien> ok Thanks Florian, I've KDE 3.5, that's cool
[01:28] <aurelien> 2) and I would like to know how to put the basket on the Desktop
[01:28] <feistel> DexterF: a way of make that without human intervention?
[01:28] <ilba7r> stoned, point i am trying to help though i understand your frustration you should cool down
[01:29] <jpatrick> aurelien: edit ~/Desktop/trash.desktop
[01:29] <jorik> is there anything i can install to make it work copy anyways ?
[01:29] <DexterF> feistel: ?
[01:29] <DexterF> jorik: what type of dvd is it you're trying to copy, and with what tool?
[01:30] <feistel> DexterF: when I create a new user, I need a script in somewhere, which add the new user to sound group
[01:30] <DexterF> aah, now.
[01:30] <jorik> DexterF, its a movie and im trying to use k3b for it ... i dont know *which* scheme excactly it uses tho
[01:30] <DexterF> um, upon user creation, adduser or useradd (or whatever) should ask you what groups the user belongs to.
[01:31] <aurelien> jpatrick -> the file you mention does not exists
[01:31] <DexterF> feistel: yup, useradd is scriptable.
[01:32] <DexterF> jorik: k3b can't "make copies" of video dvds, you need external tools
[01:32] <Florian-T> join #kubuntu-de
[01:32] <jorik> DexterF, on the disc in small letters it says "copy protected with macrovision"
[01:32] <DexterF> who cares about macrovision...
[01:33] <jorik> DexterF, oh ... i see. so which tools should i use then ?
[01:33] <DexterF> the real trick should be css, there's a decyphering lib, but it's use is illegal in most countries.
[01:33] <stoned> its cool
[01:33] <stoned> i apologize
[01:33] <stoned> but fuck it
[01:33] <stoned> i'll fix it myself, and if i can't i'll go back to debian
[01:33] <stoned> at least it works
[01:33] <ilba7r> stoned whatever work for you
[01:33] <stoned> thanks
[01:33] <ilba7r> stoned you can remove kde meta package
[01:33] <DexterF> jorik: umm, for unencrypted dvds... *nudge* ... there's dvd::rip. have a look at www.freshmeat-net and choose your poison
[01:33] <ilba7r> might be the one causing probs
[01:34] <DexterF> plenty of tools, but don't expect much comfort like on the fly shrinking and stuff. linux folks are not quite there yet ;)
[01:34] <DexterF>  .net of course
[01:34] <_ubuntu> i'm using a live CD of Dapper 3 on a powerbook - its actually really good
[01:34] <jorik> nooo thats ok i just want to clone this dvd lol :-)
[01:35] <stoned> ilba7r: kde meta package, how would i remove it if it isn't even installed
[01:35] <jorik> k ill try that, will bbl with questions on how to use the program im about to downlad from sf
[01:35] <DexterF> ok, but read the manual first.
[01:35] <ilba7r> stoned i thought it was installed. Sorry i really do not know what esle to do.
[01:36] <stoned> ilba7r: if you even bothered to pay attention what i've been asking this whole time, you could've helped me better, but I apprecaite it anyway
[01:36] <nighty6> has anybody experienced very slow mouse resolution on the powerpc (dapper3)?
[01:37] <nighty6> i tried 'xset m 200' - with no luck
[01:37] <C2ODe> hi to all
[01:37] <stoned> I have said multiple times, that I just installed ubuntu sever, and kubuntu-desktop won't install
[01:37] <ilba7r> stoned if you did not have an atitude problem you would have helped yourself
[01:37] <stoned> you cought the latter part of it
[01:38] <stoned> ilba7r: on the contrary, I am the most easygoing and down to earth person you'll pretty much ever meet in your life
[01:38] <stoned> its just that you started helping me, without really knowing or asking me about my problem
[01:38] <stoned> though I tried to tell you many times
[01:38] <stoned> but its ok, im not worried
[01:40] <stoned> btw, if you would to know how i fixed it.  I merely created apt/preferences and pinned 990 for origin kubuntu.org
[01:41] <stoned> thanks for the effort, too bad you couldn't help me :)
[01:41] <stoned> now install kde-core wants to install 3.5
[01:43] <stoned> you might want to add that to you faq or something
[01:43] <stoned> in case people ask
[01:43] <stoned> if they dont' want the full kubuntu-desktop and only kde3.5, use your deb source.list entry and pin it
[01:43] <ilba7r> stoned you can add it your self to ubotu
[01:44] <C2ODe> i need an help with kubuntu and grub splashscreen: i have update my kernel and i "lost" kububtu splashscreen how to set again?
[01:44] <stoned> I was originally thinking that pinning should work in theory, i guess this isn't too drastically different from debian is it?
[01:44] <stoned> anyway
[01:44] <stoned> have fun
[01:44] <stoned> soryr i came off as an asshole
[01:45] <stoned> wasn't trying to be
[01:52] <SkrotFFS> Are there problems installing eclipse (java IDE) in kubuntu dapper?
[01:59] <DexterF> SkrotFFS: well - do you have any?
[01:59] <SkrotFFS> DexterF: I get some dependencyproblems
[02:01] <DexterF> well, then: yeah, there are problems :P ok, for real: like what?
[02:03] <DjDarkman> hy ,i need a program to record the sound what i hear from my soundcard ,please recomend me something
[02:04] <DHGE> apt-cache search sound record  - i have never recoreded anything ....
[02:10] <DjDarkman> k 10x
[02:14] <Skroten> DexterF: Sorry, my ethernet got unplugged :)
[02:15] <Skroten> weird.. now it seems to work, think I did a apt-get update in the meantime
[02:18] <Skroten> DexterF: I do however have a problem with java in konqueror
[02:18] <Skroten> I get:
[02:18] <Skroten> ** ERROR **: file ../../../src/libjava/jni/gtk-peer/gnu_java_awt_peer_gtk_GtkImage.c: line 572 (createRawData): assertion failed: (data_fid != 0)
[02:18] <Skroten> aborting...
[02:18] <Skroten> When trying http://www.java.com/en/download/help/testvm.xml
[02:22] <DexterF> nope, means nothing to me
[02:22] <Skroten> okay
[02:22] <DexterF> running into trouble myself right now
[02:22] <Skroten> With eclipse or java?
[02:22] <DexterF> dapper update in general
[02:22] <DexterF> kmail
[02:23] <Skroten> I see :)
[02:23] <Skroten> I upgraded to dapper yesterday
[02:23] <Skroten> Only problem I had with the update process itself was some stuff that needed to be forced to overwrite
[02:23] <Skroten> But the configure dialog in kmail was empty when I was done, is that the problem?
[02:24] <C2ODe> how to change/update the image beetwen the grub menu and the X server start?
[02:25] <DjDarkman> hy again ,i want to customize the complete look of my kde ,but i don`t understand what kind of themes are for kde and how to use them ,can u give me a link ,where i can find a description of these and how to install them?>
[02:28] <dan_> i just installed kubuntu hoary. i cant get the sound system to work. the sound card driver works (the audio board was recognized). does someone know what happened?
[02:29] <sparaflescio> sorry how to change a rpm pack to a deb ???
[02:29] <DjDarkman> dan_: do you have 2 soundcards?
[02:29] <dan_> djdarkman: no
[02:29] <DjDarkman> sparaflescio: sudo apt-get install alien
[02:29] <sparaflescio> thx
[02:29] <DjDarkman> np sparaflescio
[02:30] <DjDarkman> dan_: you don`t hear anything?
[02:30] <dan_> DjDarkman: no, i dont
[02:30] <DjDarkman> i mean did you try amarok or xmms?
[02:30] <dan_> no, i tested it from control center
[02:31] <DjDarkman> hmmm ,is your soundcard 5.1?
[02:32] <dan_> honestly, i dont know. its not my computer
[02:32] <Skroten> hmmm, there's no gl.h in dapper?
[02:33] <Skroten> nevermind, searched wrong
[02:33] <DjDarkman> dan_: sudo apt-get install xmms
[02:33] <DjDarkman> and try to listen to music in xmms
[02:33] <dan_> ok
[02:34] <DjDarkman> there you can select the sound system u want to use ,and it`s easy to test these things there
[02:34] <DjDarkman> i think it should work with alsa
[02:35] <C2ODe> how to change/update the image beetwen the grub menu and the X server start? (not the menu image)
[02:36] <dan_> DjDarkman: i tried amaroK, it doesnt work. i also switched through all the sound systems in control center.. none works
[02:37] <DjDarkman> dan_: if u use amarok ,select alsa in the amaroks configuration
[02:37] <sparaflescio> DjDarkman srry how to open .rm files ( real media)
[02:37] <sparaflescio> i haven't found any codec pack u know sm one
[02:38] <DjDarkman> sparaflescio: w32codecs
[02:38] <sparaflescio> thx
[02:38] <DjDarkman> np
[02:38] <sparaflescio> but i have already installed
[02:38] <sparaflescio> .....
[02:39] <DjDarkman> i dunno nothing about real media ,i never used it ,try looking for something on it`s website
[02:39] <dan_> DjDarkman: there are no engines in amaroK
[02:39] <dan_> its an empty list
[02:40] <sparaflescio> ..i have already done .. i 'll found another way
[02:40] <DjDarkman> dan_: w8 plz
[02:42] <DjDarkman> dan_: output plugin alsasink
[02:43] <dan_> DjDarkman: for amaroK?
[02:43] <DjDarkman> yes
[02:43] <dan_> where do i find it?
[02:43] <DjDarkman> engine / output plugin and select alsasink
[02:44] <dan_> uh, i have amarok 1.2... there is no output plugin option there...
[02:46] <apokryphos> amarok 1.2 is ooold 8)
[02:47] <dan_> ok...
[02:47] <DjDarkman> dan_: then update it
[02:47] <dan_> but actually my problem is kde because there are no sounds at all
[02:57] <DjDarkman> i want to customize the complete look of my kde ,but i don`t understand what kind of themes are for kde and how to use them ,can u give me a link ,where i can find a description of these and how to install them?>
[02:59] <apokryphos> DjDarkman: kdelook.org
[03:07] <C2ODe> how to restore the usplash image after updating to kernel 2.6.15-1?
[03:12] <waran> moin moin
[03:13] <waran> How can I disable this "Switch V-Desktop Menu" after pressing alt+tab (I need this shortcut free for GTKRadiant)
[03:13] <waran> sorry, I mean ctrl+tab
[03:18] <rysiek> hi there
[03:19] <rysiek> quick question: does anybody know a good app for creating CD covers?
[03:19] <rysiek> like jewel-case inlets etc
[03:20] <Blippe> rysiek tried scribus?
[03:20] <Blippe> it might do what you want!
[03:21] <rysiek> Blippe: m'kay, trying now ;)
[03:22] <Blippe> rysiek, and if your unsure: https://www.printingforless.com/cdspecs.html
[03:25] <rysiek> Blippe: I think scribus is a litle overshot for me - I don't need a full DTP app, just a cd cover creator, but thanks for the link
[03:26] <sambagirl> Web
[03:28] <Blippe> rysiek if you search in adept, you will among others find disc-cover, cdcover and others
[03:29] <Blippe> rysiek, kover or kcdlabel might even be better for you then
[03:37] <rysiek> Blippe: ok, thx :)
[03:51] <north> hi all
[03:51] <north> is it not supposed that yesterday was the release of kde 3.5.1?
[03:57] <hussam> I want to assign a gtk1 theme fro xmms.
[03:57] <hussam> I made a ~/.gtkrc file and added a:
[03:57] <hussam> include "/usr/share/themes/QtCurve/gtk/gtkrc"
[03:58] <hussam> inside it. this works, now how do I specify the font size?
[04:00] <muep> how do I remove ubuntu-desktop?
[04:02] <muep> I wanted to have kubuntu instead and now the gnome stuff is getting on my way
[04:14] <north> muep: I'm not sure, but what I did was installing kde and replacing gdm by kdm
[04:14] <north> I think this is enough
[04:15] <raffaele> in kubuntu how I can start wifi-managere from kde's menu?
[04:17] <jorik> strange ... when i play this DVD in xine everything works but when i try to copy it in k3b it says "cant copy: disc protected"
[04:18] <Mias> how can I disable the bg graphics for all dirs in konqueror?
[04:19] <raffaele> in kubuntu how I can start an application with root privilege from the menu of kde?
[04:20] <raphink> raffaele: use kdesu
[04:21] <raffaele> raphink: ok
[04:21] <triode> hello. How can I enable my Wacom Graphire4 USB digitizing tablet in Kubuntu?
[04:23] <raffaele> raphink: but now I don't see very well the window opened!!! why?
[04:23] <dan_> i have kubuntu 5.04, kde 3.4, my sound system doesn't work.. i tested it in control center.. it recognizes the sound card but doesn't play any sound.. i tried to change the sound engines and it didn't work. amaroK and XMMS don't work either
[04:24] <dan_> what should I do?
[04:24] <triode> raffaele: you need to add the "kdesu" before the command... you either edit the menu item or you can run the application using the "run command"
[04:25] <raffaele> triode: yes but when the application start, I do not see very vell the application! non buttons dark color ecc...
[04:26] <dan_> i have kubuntu 5.04, kde 3.4, my sound system doesn't work.. i tested it in control center.. it recognizes the sound card but doesn't play any sound.. i tried to change the sound engines and it didn't work. amaroK and XMMS don't work either
[04:28] <dan_> can anyone pls help me?
[04:28] <triode> raffaele: try "K menu" "run command" and type "kdesu kate" in the command field, that should run Kate as SU
[04:29] <triode> dan_: check volume control, make sure it's not muted
[04:29] <dan_> I already checked
[04:29] <dan_> its not muted
[04:30] <raffaele> triode: the application start but the font are large!!!
[04:30] <triode> raffaele:  that's because of the window settings (style) that SU has configured
[04:30] <dan_> plss help me guys
[04:31] <triode> dan_: go to K menu --- System settings
[04:31] <triode> dan_: select "sound and multimedia"
[04:31] <dan_> triode:what do i do there?
[04:32] <triode> check that "enable sound system" is checked
[04:32] <raffaele> triode: how I can sett the font and other for super user?
[04:33] <dan_> triode: its enabled
[04:33] <triode> raffaele: Not sure, but probably running the configuration with sudo (kdesu) and making the changes would change the style for SU
[04:33] <north> raffaele: you can try sudo kcontrol and modify there what you want in "fonts"
[04:33] <triode> dan_: go to hardware and check which audio device is working
[04:33] <north> mmm, triode solution is better
[04:34] <triode> north: it's pretty much the same
[04:34] <dan_> triode: where can I fin hardware?
[04:34] <triode> north: I actually like Kcontrol better than Kubuntu's system configurator
[04:35] <north> and what is the difference between su and kdesu?
[04:35] <dan_> triode: I found it
[04:35] <triode> north: kdesu is for kde apps
[04:35] <triode> dan_: what does it say?
[04:35] <dan_> triode: the audio device is:autodetect
[04:35] <north> and what is the point of using kdesu if you can use "su" in kde applications in the same way?
[04:35] <triode> dan_: select "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture"
[04:36] <triode> north: It asks you the pwd in a graphical window
[04:36] <dan_> triode: i have selected. now what?
[04:37] <raffaele> in "kdesu" the fonts and other are differents from "sudo", why? i can syncronized there?
[04:37] <triode> north: you can't use "sudo kate" in "run command" (for example)
[04:37] <dan_> triode: i have selected.
[04:37] <triode> dan_: did it say something about "restarting sound system" or something like that?
[04:37] <dan_> triode: no
[04:37] <triode> dan_: did you click "apply"?
[04:38] <dan_> triode: yes
[04:38] <north> ok
[04:38] <dan_> triode: it loaded a bit
[04:38] <DexterF> did someone here get the r300 xserver working in xorg 7.0 on ubuntu? if yes, how?
[04:38] <dan_> triode: soun still doesnt work
[04:38] <triode> dan_: what are you trying to play?
[04:39] <dan_> triode: i did it again. this time it said:restarting the sound sistem
[04:39] <triode> dan_: there is a button that says "test sound" in the General Tab
[04:40] <triode> dan_: try it
[04:40] <dan_> triode: I pressed it but nothing happened
[04:40] <dan_> triode: it didnt work
[04:41] <triode> dan_: when you start kubuntu, in the boot screen, does it say anywhere "setting up alsa card 0" (or 1) and then "OK"?
[04:42] <dan_> triode: I dont know
[04:42] <dan_> triode: should I boot and see???
[04:42] <triode> dan_: no, wait a sec
[04:42] <dan_> triode: ok
[04:43] <raffaele> hi
[04:43] <feistel> hi
[04:43] <feistel> how I can set menu shadow in kdeglobals?
[04:45] <triode> ./configure --enable-hid
[04:45] <triode> dan_: try this command to see if you have a "card0":  ls /proc/asound/card0
[04:45] <triode> (nevermind that ./configure --enable-hid, wrong window!!)
[04:46] <dan_> triode: codec97#0  id  oss_mixer  pcm0c  pcm0p  pcm1c  pcm1p  via82xx
[04:46] <dan_> triode: thats what it says
[04:47] <triode> dan_: ok, you seem to have a sound card installed. What player are you using?
[04:47] <dan_> triode: ive tryed whith amaroK and XMMS
[04:48] <dan_> triode: do I need another player???
[04:48] <triode> no, any of those will do
[04:49] <triode> dan_:  do you have the multimedia codecs installed?
[04:49] <dan_> triode: i dont know
[04:49] <dan_> triode: how do i check?
[04:52] <dan_> triode: do you know how i can check if i have the multimedia codecs installed?
[04:52] <triode> dan_: check this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:57] <Skroten> hmm.. I've install
[04:57] <Skroten> err
[04:57] <Skroten> I've installed sun-j2sdk1.5_1.5.0+update06_i386.deb, but java --version says 1.4.2.. how's that possible?
[05:00] <DexterF> how do I restart X? zap it from kdm?
[05:02] <seashell11> DexterF: Ctrl+Alt+Backspace
[05:04] <DexterF> zap, ok
[05:11] <sampan> skroten  have you set it to the new java?  ( sudo update-alternatives --config java )
[05:13] <dan_> can anyone help me?
[05:13] <dan_> I have a problem whith my sound
[05:14] <dan_> *with
[05:14] <dan_> plsss help me guys
[05:15] <apokryphos> .........
[05:15] <Skroten> sampan: no, thanks :)
[05:17] <sampan> skroten  sure thing ... i had the same problem a while back :)
[05:18] <cbo> hello all, i would like to add more devices to konqueror when i choose media:/, how do i do?
[05:24] <cbo> hello all, i would like to add more devices to konqueror when i choose media:/, how do i do?
[05:24] <north> which media do you like to add, cbo ?
[05:25] <cbo> north: hard disks, that are included in fstab, but don't appear in 'media:/'
[05:28] <cbo> north: hard disks, that are included in fstab, but don't appear in 'media:/'
[05:31] <Florian-T> hi there, hava sound problem
[05:31] <dan_> can anyone plss help me ?
[05:31] <dan_> ive got a big problem. my sound doesnt work
[05:31] <Florian-T> i have 2 soundcards
[05:31] <dan_> ive got only one
[05:32] <dan_> but my soun just doesnt work
[05:32] <Florian-T> nothing at all?
[05:32] <dan_> no
[05:33] <Florian-T> which hardware?
[05:33] <dan_> its like it would be muted
[05:33] <dan_> but its not
[05:33] <Florian-T> look in the settings of the mixer
[05:33] <dan_> what do you mean by which hardware?
[05:34] <dan_> i looked
[05:34] <dan_> it all lookes fine
[05:34] <Florian-T> AC97 chip?
[05:34] <dan_> i dont know
[05:34] <dan_> how do i check?
[05:34] <Florian-T> onboard?
[05:34] <dan_> yes
[05:34] <Florian-T> then the chances are high enough to be one :)
[05:34] <Florian-T> look in kmix
[05:35] <Florian-T> Tab named switches or sonmeting
[05:35] <Florian-T> sorry for my bad inglish, i'm from germany
[05:35] <dan_> yes
[05:35] <dan_> i learn german in scool
[05:35] <Florian-T> there should be an option external amp
[05:35] <dan_> also
[05:36] <dan_> es ist alles eine Scheissse
[05:36] <dan_> hehe
[05:36] <dan_> look
[05:36] <Florian-T> :) very good
[05:36] <dan_> i found the tab named swithes
[05:36] <dan_> what next?
[05:36] <Florian-T> look for external amplifier
[05:37] <dan_> yes
[05:37] <Florian-T> is it switched to active?
[05:37] <dan_> its yelow
[05:37] <Florian-T> then it should be switched to "on"
[05:38] <Florian-T> this is what i had to to to get it work
[05:38] <dan_> its yelow
[05:38] <dan_> oh.....
[05:38] <dan_> well.........
[05:38] <Florian-T> erm, had to do to get it working ;)
[05:38] <dan_> its on
[05:38] <javb> hi, i followed all the instructions in https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI.. i did it by installing the fglrx driver from apt-get and i did it the way by downloading the ati driver from ati.com (and following the instructions for it)... none works.. if i do fglrxinfo(having fglrx in driver section on xorg.con) i get
[05:38] <dan_> but its still doesnt work
[05:38] <cbo> hello all, i would like to add more devices to konqueror when i choose media:/, how do i do?
[05:38] <Florian-T> is master volume active?
[05:39] <javb> Xlib:  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[05:39] <javb> display: :0.0  screen: 0
[05:39] <javb> OpenGL vendor string: Mesa project: www.mesa3d.org
[05:39] <javb> OpenGL renderer string: Mesa GLX Indirect
[05:39] <javb> OpenGL version string: 1.2 (1.5 Mesa 6.2.1)
[05:39] <javb> some one can help me?
[05:39] <dan_> there is no master volume
[05:39] <Florian-T> on the output tab
[05:39] <dan_> oh
[05:39] <dan_> yes
[05:39] <dan_> its at the middle
[05:40] <javb> ?
[05:40] <Florian-T> maybe this helps
[05:40] <dan_> and its acive
[05:40] <dan_> what helps?
[05:40] <Florian-T> to put it louder :)
[05:40] <dan_> should i switch it on max?
[05:40] <Florian-T> is PCM active?
[05:41] <dan_> yes
[05:41] <Florian-T> give it a try
[05:41] <dan_> it doesnt work
[05:41] <Florian-T> hmm, this is all what i had to do
[05:42] <Florian-T> maybe there are other problems
[05:43] <muep> my problem is that I want to get rid of the gnome stuff
[05:43] <dan_> well
[05:43] <dan_> ill find a solution
[05:43] <dan_> but im a linux beginner
[05:43] <dan_> i installed it this morning
[05:43] <dan_> wel.....
[05:43] <dan_> you have to uninstall it
[05:43] <muep> both DEs work great but there is too much clutter in menus
[05:43] <dan_> muep: you have to uninstall it
[05:44] <javb> nobody?
[05:44] <Florian-T> javb: what?
[05:44] <muep> dan_: yes but there are dozens of packages to uninstall
[05:44] <muep> uninstalling ubuntu-desktop does nothing
[05:45] <Florian-T> install kubuntu desktop
[05:45] <Florian-T> erm, kubuntu-desktop
[05:45] <dan_> muep: do you know how to uninstall it or do i have do explain it to tou?
[05:45] <muep> Florian-T: already done that
[05:45] <Florian-T> and still gnome?
[05:45] <muep> dan_: I know how to uninstall packages
[05:45] <Florian-T> forgot to install kdm?
[05:46] <muep> Florian-T: no, both kde and gnome work
[05:46] <muep> but do I have to manually one by one uninstall gnome packages?
[05:46] <sampan> muep, are you running perilously low on disk space?  if not, why not just delete the gnome-items in your kmenu?  why uninstall all the packages?
[05:47] <sampan> if you right-click the kmenu button, select menu editor -- you can go in and in like 5 minutes remove all the gnome entries from your menu -- don't have to look at them
[05:48] <sampan> if you do that, just don't forget to hit the 'save' button in the menu editor, or all your changes will be lost (i've done that more than once)
[05:49] <Florian-T> ok, now i have a problem
[05:49] <Florian-T> :)
[05:49] <Florian-T> i have two soundcards
[05:49] <Florian-T> one onboard
[05:49] <Florian-T> another plugged via PCI (SBLive)
[05:49] <Florian-T> my problem is that the onboard card is /dev/dsp
[05:50] <Florian-T> and the sblive not
[05:50] <Florian-T> how can i change this
[05:50] <sampan> florian-t  did you disable onboard sound in your BIOS?
[05:50] <Florian-T> no i do not want that
[05:50] <Florian-T> i want to use the onboardcard for skype
[05:50] <Florian-T> and the sblive for the rest
[05:51] <sampan> ahhhhh, then someone else will have to help you -- i have no idea how to make dual sound cards work (or even if it's really possible).  good luck :)
[05:51] <Florian-T> k
[05:58] <feistel> hi
[05:59] <feistel> where KDE save the window preferences?
[05:59] <feistel> the max, min, close buttons, etc
[06:02] <feistel> windows decortaions
[06:02] <feistel> window decorations
[06:04] <almien> ~/.kde/share/config/kdeglobals or nearby, feistel?
[06:04] <seicherlbob> why is my kaffeine crashing saying "ressource not available" when i want to watch a mpeg video?
[06:05] <javb> Florian ---> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2060022#post2060022
[06:05] <javb> : - /
[06:06] <almien> lol. that's what kaffeine does, seicherlbob, it crashes.  You were expecting it to be a video player?
[06:06] <shmoolik> hello
[06:06] <shmoolik> whats ppl
[06:06] <shmoolik> ?
[06:06] <javb> Florian-T ---> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?p=2060022#post2060022
[06:06] <seicherlbob> almien: well... thought so. what else can i use to watch videos. just installed the codex and wanted to see if they work
[06:06] <shmoolik> i have a problem installing my printer....
[06:08] <Florian-T> javb: did you restart?
[06:13] <seicherlbob> whats a good all purpose media-player for video and audio?
[06:13] <simlu> seicher - kaffeine is a good one
[06:14] <simlu> But I prefer amarok to play music though
[06:15] <seicherlbob> simlu: almien told me kaffeine can't play videos... and when i tried it hang up all the time
[06:16] <karl> anyone know what I would need to do to get kaffeine to play IV50 files?  mplayer plays them, so I have the codec on my system somewhere, presumably I just need to tell kaffeine where it is?
[06:16] <simlu> seicher - almien is on crack. kaffein can play video. :)
[06:17] <simlu> seicher - you just have to install video codecs
[06:17] <EvanCarroll> Does kubuntu come with the 'kde' package or just the 'kubuntu-desktop' package?
[06:17] <seicherlbob> simlu: i have allready. amarok could play some mp3 already. just wanted to check the videocodex
[06:18] <simlu> seicher - did you install xine engine for kaffeine?
[06:19] <seicherlbob> nope
[06:19] <simlu> you should do that. it would help
[06:19] <simlu> you need xine if you want to use your codecs
[06:19] <karl> what is the advantage ofthe xine engine over the gstreamer?
[06:20] <karl> vs gstreamer-pitfdll for instance?
[06:20] <simlu> for me, xine is a lot faster than gstreamer
[06:21] <karl> what's the downside? ie, why isn't xine the default?
[06:22] <simlu> that's a good question. I really don't know
[06:22] <bobesponja>  anyone knows why media:/ only shows my USB and floppy and doesn4t show my mounted hardrives?
[06:22] <seicherlbob> simlu: i get a couple of errors when trying to play anything in kaffeine: ressource in use or not available
[06:22] <simlu> seicher - you did install kaffeine-xine package?
[06:22] <bobesponja> anyone?
[06:23] <seicherlbob> just installed the xine-ui
[06:23] <simlu> xine ui?
[06:23] <seicherlbob> bobesponja: have you had a look at /mnt ?
[06:24] <seicherlbob> simlu: yes... "the xine video player user interface"....
[06:24] <seicherlbob> ok... my mistake
[06:24] <simlu> ok. :)
[06:25] <simlu> you don't really need the xine player if you plan to use kaffeine to play videos, just the xine engine for kaffeine
[06:27] <seicherlbob> simlu: ok... thx. right now synaptic seems to be on strike, but i hope i will manage that
[06:27] <simlu> seicher - good luck. if you need help later with that, don't hesitate to ask me
[06:27] <bobesponja> seicherlbob:  <Riddell> bobesponja: it's not possible currently
[06:27] <EvanCarroll> where can i get a list of packages by .deb name that the standard kubuntu install includes
[06:28] <EvanCarroll> I'm trying to clean alot of shit off my system with debfoster, and i'm wonder if i prune everything but ubuntu-minimal ubuntu-standard and kubuntu-desktop where it will get me
[06:31] <seicherlbob> ok, i think i'll restart this shit and try again. see you in a while!
[06:38] <Arcanimus> is OpenOffice GTK Based?
[06:42] <_mike> anyone feel like helping a linux noob setup a Linksys WUSB54Gv2 on Kubuntu 5.10 .. please :)
[06:47] <hawking> how can i remove cedegacvs? I had to stop building it cause I recognized I had no space and now I can't find where it is saved? can someone help?
[06:48] <simlu> mike - is this a wireless network card?
[06:49] <_mike> yes it's a wireless network card...BUT...it attaches via USB
[06:49] <_mike> it's more a receiver per se
[06:50] <simlu> is your card detected?
[06:50] <owner> you need to use ndiswrapper mike
[06:50] <_mike> my problems are more to do with general lack of Linux knowledge than they are to do with finding the directions online and following them
[06:50] <owner> load windows inf driver with ndiswrapper
[06:50] <_mike> yes I am in the process of trying to install ndiswrapper
[06:50] <_mike> here's a question I have about installing software though....where should I put the folder?
[06:51] <_mike> what is the Kubuntu equivalent of Program Files in windows
[06:51] <owner> the driver or ndisrapper
[06:51] <owner> ndiswrapper is available from ubuntu repos
[06:51] <simlu> there's no equivalent. :)
[06:51] <_mike> simlu..does that mean it's a personal preference and you just manage everything yourself?
[06:51] <_mike> owner...does that mean I can install it using Adept?
[06:51] <owner> yes
[06:52] <kkathman> !ndiswrapper
[06:52] <ubotu> it has been said that ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:52] <Zappa> what application provides the audio volume in the system tray? i seem to have closed it by mistake
[06:52] <Mias> kmix?
[06:52] <Zappa> ah yes, thanks
[06:52] <_mike> ubotu...I dont' have a choice of native support given my type of Wireless Adapter correct?
[06:53] <simlu> mike - if you're the only user on your machine, you can just install things in your home directory
[06:53] <_mike> thank you simlu
[06:53] <_mike> kkathman ... what does !ndiwrapper mean / do ... i'm assuming I run it in the Konsole?
[06:54] <owner> ndiswrapper is a compatibility layed that allows the use of windows inf drivers
[06:54] <owner> layer
[06:54] <kkathman> check out that link that ubotu printed out there and I think that will tell you what you need to know :)
[06:54] <kkathman> its kinda buggy
[06:54] <owner> there are some projects to provide native usb wireless drivers
[06:55] <owner> also your manufacturer may provide drivers for linux
[06:55] <owner> but unlikely
[06:55] <kkathman> native support is in ubuntu standard
[06:55] <kkathman> but it doesnt always work
[06:55] <simlu> owner - have you heard about a single networking manufacturer that provide drivers for linux?
[06:56] <kkathman> thats why some people have to try ndiswrapper
[06:56] <_mike> can you explain to me how to install ndiswrapper using Kubuntu Adept
[06:56] <kkathman> simlu: yes several do
[06:56] <shawkins> hey kkathman
[06:56] <kkathman> !ndiswrapper
[06:56] <ubotu> well, ndiswrapper is a way to support Windows wireless drivers, but it is buggy compared to native support. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper
[06:56] <_mike> [my apologies for my ignorance...but just consider me the Arnie Grape of linux right now] 
[06:56] <simlu> kkath - who? :)
[06:56] <shawkins> enfact: you around?
[06:56] <kkathman> _mike try reading that link
[06:56] <kkathman> hey shawkings
[06:57] <kkathman> oops
[06:57] <kkathman> shawkins
[06:57] <kkathman> hehe
[06:57] <karl> buggy compared to native support? that's an interesting way of putting it.
[06:57] <kkathman> haha
[06:57] <karl> if native support wasn't buggy, there'd be no need for ndiswrapper :)
[06:57] <JakubS> is it broadcom chipset?
[06:57] <owner> there is no native support karl
[06:58] <owner> for wireless cards very lacking in linux
[06:58] <simlu> exactly, no native support at all
[06:58] <kkathman> simlu: 3com has drivers for linux for several of their cards
[06:58] <vge> ya, make it better!! :)
[06:58] <JakubS> intel too
[06:58] <karl> precisely, hence my comment that ubotu's auto comment on ndiswrapper isn't exactly very clear and or accurate
[06:58] <vge> "lucky broadcom owner"
[06:58] <karl> also, there is extremely limited broadcom native driver support
[06:58] <karl> but at present, ndiswrapper is far less buggy than the native driver
[06:59] <_mike> thank you all...i'm going to go try this stuff...but I shall return with more stupid questions shortly!
[06:59] <dan_> can anyone plss help me?
[06:59] <karl> http://bcm43xx.berlios.de/
[06:59] <kkathman> When using a Linux kernel supported wirless card, usually based on the Atheros or the Prism chipsets, Ubuntu will have little or no problem recognizing and setting up the card. The user will now have to deal with the encryption options.
[06:59] <karl> jakobs: lucky you :)
[06:59] <dan_> ive got a proble with my sound. it aint working. can you plss help me guys?
[06:59] <JakubS> yeah, it just works
[07:01] <vge> somebody here is a happy nx6110 owner? :)
[07:01] <kkathman> karl I just dont agree with that, but thats your opinion :)
[07:01] <simlu> dan - what isch wrong?
[07:01] <kkathman> breezy DOES have native support for wireless
[07:02] <karl> sure, but who ever heard of using ndiswrapper for a card that had native drivers?
[07:02] <kkathman> karl: please review http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[07:02] <dan_> simlu: my sound doesnt work
[07:02] <iantec> hi how will my printer (hp 720 c )wrok? ubuntu doesnt seem to auto detect it
[07:02] <kkathman> karl more specifically:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessTroubleshootingGuide?highlight=%28wireless%29#driver
[07:02] <karl> which makes the ubotu autotext rather odd
[07:03] <simlu> dan - you mean, you do not hear anything out of your speakers?
[07:03] <kkathman> karl no, I dont think you want to use ndiswrapper with native support :)
[07:03] <karl> the only reason you would choose ndiswrapper is because there are no native drivers, or the native drivers are extremely alpha, so "ndiswrapper is more buggy than native drivers" is what I felt was an odd statement
[07:03] <kkathman> if your card works under native support, then thats a good thing
[07:03] <shawkins> kkathman: I got a few questions about python
[07:04] <kkathman> well, there is no argument that ndiswrapper is buggy.  If your card works under native, then use native :)
[07:04] <kkathman> shawkins: ok shoot
[07:04] <kkathman> shawkins: i may not know much, cuz Im just getting into it myself
[07:05] <dan_> simlu: thats exactly what i mean
[07:05] <simlu> dan - go in a console and type alsamixer
[07:05] <shawkins> kkathman: on the CD for my project, I was thinking of having a python program, to make a gui and such, seeing as I will know the distro for which this program will be used on, could I easily include the python program and other such dependencies on the disc  just in case it isn't installed on system
[07:05] <kkathman> shawkins well that depends
[07:06] <kkathman> depending on what you are going to use in Python
[07:06] <kkathman> for instance if you put the project, say in a KDE GUI
[07:06] <kkathman> you'll need to include the QT libs and PyQT
[07:06] <kkathman> perhaps others too
[07:06] <simlu> dan - check if your volume are okay for your pcm, master, etc
[07:06] <shawkins> ok, well is that part at least possible?
[07:06] <kkathman> sure its possible
[07:07] <kkathman> under Gnome its a different GUI thing but I forget what it is
[07:07] <kkathman> the base libs would be the same tho
[07:07] <kkathman> and I believe that ubuntu installs python standardly
[07:07] <kkathman> I dont remember having to install that
[07:08] <shawkins> yeah, I just don't want to have to worry about any problems running it
[07:08] <kkathman> but I did need to install PyQT and the QT libs
[07:08] <dan_> simlu: how do i start the console?
[07:08] <kkathman> shawkins: it might be a hit and miss or experimental thing you'll need to work with, but I see no reason your logic wouldnt hold
[07:08] <kkathman> shawkins: just a matter of what you put on the disk
[07:09] <simlu> dan - I don't know. I'm using KDE, and in my menu it is in the System menu, and the program is called Kconsole
[07:09] <shawkins> dan_: off my memory, if you are using kubuntu its under the utilities menu, maybe the system menu
[07:10] <karl> or press alt-f2->konsole which will always work
[07:10] <shawkins> kkathman: ok, well as long as I can do something with it... I'm good, thanks
[07:11] <dan_> simlu: i entered alsamixer, now what?
[07:12] <kkathman> sure np
[07:12] <simlu> dan - check the levels of PCM, and Master
[07:12] <kkathman> dan_  alt-f2  and type konsole  in KDE that is
[07:13] <shawkins> ok, I'm out for now.... dapper is reinstalling on my computer downstairs.... decided to just put one distro on that computer for now.. so I reinstalled it.. talk to you kids later
[07:13] <dan_> simlu: PCM and Master are at the highest level
[07:13] <kkathman> cya shawkins
[07:13] <simlu> dan - and they are not muted?
[07:14] <dan_> simlu: no
[07:17] <simlu> dan - well, don't know what to tell you
[07:17] <dan_> simlu: havent you got any other idears??
[07:18] <simlu> dan - can you type in your console cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[07:20] <enki> hi. anybody from czech ?
[07:24] <SmokeTheDank> im switching from suse to kubuntu
[07:24] <SmokeTheDank> is there anything I should know?
[07:24] <SmokeTheDank> how easy is it to get mp3 and all that crap working in kubuntu?
[07:24] <kkathman> SmokeTheDank: I have both SuSE and Ubuntu dual booted on my machine
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> kkathman: why
[07:25] <simlu> smokethedank - easy
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> kkathman: and which do you find better?
[07:25] <kkathman> you'll find they are equally as easy to get working...the only thing you'll need to learn is the APT packaging system
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> i already know about apt
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> =)
[07:25] <kkathman> SmokeTheDank: they are both excellent in their own right
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> apts awesome
[07:25] <kkathman> SmokeTheDank:  yeah I like apt a bit more than YaST
[07:25] <SmokeTheDank> well do either of you use ktorrent?
[07:25] <kkathman> no
[07:26] <kkathman> but its available
[07:26] <SmokeTheDank> what bittorrent client?
[07:26] <kkathman> i just dont use it
[07:26] <cbo> SmokeTheDank: qtorrent does fine
[07:26] <simlu> i use azureus
[07:26] <SmokeTheDank> i use ktorrent on suse and it always hogs down my system
[07:27] <simlu> smokethedank - azureus is really nice
[07:27] <SmokeTheDank> simlu: when i use azureus on here it alwyas stops my downloads at 99.9
[07:27] <dandielionous> I'm trying to install gtk.  I've installed the dependancies it says it needs.  cairo, atk, glib, pango without a problem.  But when I try to install gtk it says it can't find them.  I've tried to use pkg-conf to correct this and I can't seem to get it to work.  I know I have pkg-conf on my computer.  But no commands are working.  Any suggestions.  Oh also I don't seem to be able to use PKG_CONF_PATH to correct the problem.
[07:27] <simlu> strange
[07:28] <MrJangles> anyone familiar with lid.sh ?
[07:29] <sweet_kate> people while i m installing SOmething can i keep open firefox and xchat?
[07:30] <MrJangles> shouldnt be a problem
[07:30] <MrJangles> but its always safe to close all programs
[07:31] <UcTs> hey people
[07:31] <UcTs> i have a stpudi problem
[07:31] <UcTs> with my free cedega
[07:32] <UcTs> Warning: Language 'en_BR' was not found, retrying without country name...
[07:32] <UcTs> For language 'en' several language ids were found:
[07:32] <sweet_kate> people while i m installing SOmething can i keep open firefox and xchat?
[07:32] <sweet_kate> people while i m installing SOmething can i keep open firefox and xchat?
[07:32] <UcTs> en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409; en_IE - 1809; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_ - 2409; en_BZ - 2809; en_TT - 2C09;
[07:32] <UcTs> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
[07:32] <UcTs> your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US
[07:32] <UcTs> hermes@ubuntu:/cdrom$ Warning: Language 'en_BR' was not found, retrying without country name...
[07:32] <UcTs> For language 'en' several language ids were found:
[07:32] <UcTs> en_US - 0409; en_GB - 0809; en_AU - 0C09; en_CA - 1009; en_NZ - 1409; en_IE - 1809; en_ZA - 1C09; en_JM - 2009; en_ - 2409; en_BZ - 2809; en_TT - 2C09;
[07:32] <UcTs> Instead of using first in the list, suggest to define
[07:32] <UcTs> your LANG environment variable like this: LANG=en_US
[07:32] <UcTs> this is the problem
[07:32] <UcTs> any can help me??
[07:32] <simlu> sweet_kate - yes
[07:33] <chopemax> hi, everytime i want to open a file on a remote samba share konqueror makes a tmp copy of it.. is there any way to actually open it from the remote folder?
[07:34] <dandielionous> Any thoughts?
[07:35] <dandielionous> Am I invisible?
[07:36] <simlu> dandie - did you compile and install gtk yourself?
[07:36] <dan_> ive got a major problem. my sound doesnt work. can you please help me?
[07:37] <dandielionous> I am trying to compile and install gtk.
[07:37] <dandielionous> I can't find a debian for it.
[07:37] <simlu> dan - you're back. can you go again in a console and type cat /proc/asound/cards ?
[07:37] <dandielionous> I compiled and installed atk, pongo,glib and cairo.
[07:37] <simlu> dandie - gtk is packaged for debian, that's for sure
[07:38] <dandielionous> When I click on the debian link it downloads it to Kate.
[07:38] <Arcanimus> hatake_kakashi, you three?
[07:38] <Arcanimus> *there
[07:38] <simlu> dandie - do you use ubuntu?
[07:38] <dan_> simlu: shore
[07:38] <dandielionous> I'm using kubuntu.
[07:39] <simlu> dandie - you don't like adept?
[07:39] <dandielionous> I tried using synaptic and can't get gtk.
[07:39] <dan_> 0 [V8237          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[07:39] <dan_>                      VIA 8237 with CMI9761 at 0xc000, irq 22
[07:39] <dandielionous> I'm still pretty new at this.
[07:39] <dan_> simlu: thats what it sais
[07:39] <simlu> dan - ok thanks
[07:39] <dandielionous> So I thought I would try downloading and compiling it from tars.
[07:40] <raffaele> hi! i, have a problem... when a not kde program start, i see this error: "Gdk-CRITICAL" or "GdkPixbuf-CRITICAL" etc...
[07:40] <simlu> dandie - that's not an easy job to compile and install gtk. :)
[07:40] <dandielionous> I'm tried the terminal with apt-get, synaptic and compiling and installing. :)
[07:40] <simlu> dandie - you can download and install gtk with adept
[07:40] <chopemax> no ideas??
[07:40] <dandielionous> I can't seem to get adept figured out.
[07:40] <dandielionous> synaptic is easier.
[07:41] <dandielionous> The only thing I haven't managed to compile and install is the gtk.
[07:41] <dandielionous> I compiled and installed pongo, atk, cairo and glib
[07:42] <simlu> yeah me too I prefer synaptic
[07:42] <dandielionous> But gtk when I try ./configure says it can't find pongo, atk, cairo and glib.
[07:42] <dandielionous> So I figure I need to set the path.
[07:42] <dandielionous> As far as I can figure pkg-conf should help me with that.
[07:42] <iantec> anyone there?
[07:43] <raffaele> ehi, any ideas???
[07:43] <owner> what are you trying to compile dandie
[07:43] <dandielionous> checking for BASE_DEPENDENCIES... configure: error: Package requirements (glib-2                              .0 >= 2.7.1    atk >= 1.0.1    pango >= 1.9.0    cairo >= 0.9.2) were not met.
[07:43] <dandielionous> Consider adjusting the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable if you
[07:43] <dandielionous> installed software in a non-standard prefix.
[07:43] <owner> dandie why not install them with synaptic
[07:43] <dandielionous> I'm trying to compile gtk.
[07:43] <MrJangles> is anyone familiar with lid.sh ?
[07:43] <dandielionous> I tried to find gtk with synaptic and it doesn't find it.
[07:44] <owner> you can install the dev packages for those
[07:44] <simlu> dandie - look for libgtk2.0-0
[07:44] <owner> for atk, pango, cairo
[07:44] <dandielionous> When I try to download the deb packages they download to Kate.
[07:44] <simlu> dandie - or libgtk2.0-dev
[07:44] <dandielionous> Okay simlu.
[07:45] <simlu> dandie - it will be much easier for your. As I said, compiling gtk is hard work
[07:45] <dandielionous> I tried locate in my terminal it doesn't find that.
[07:45] <dandielionous> I compiled and installed atk, pango, cairo and glib.
[07:45] <owner> dandie use this http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:45] <owner> then you have full access to all the repos
[07:46] <dandielionous> Okay I clicked on that owner.
[07:46] <simlu> dandie - not in your terminal, seach for libgtk2.0 in synaptics. :)
[07:46] <dandielionous> Okay simlu.
[07:46] <simlu> dan - do you have a wav file on your pc?
[07:47] <owner> he may need to install synaptic
[07:47] <owner> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[07:47] <owner> and if you want to use new sources.list
[07:47] <owner> sudo kedit  /etc/apt/sources.list
[07:48] <dandielionous> I have synaptic
[07:48] <dandielionous> I'm searching for libgtk2.0
[07:49] <dan_> simlu: i dont know. but i tried the sound form the control center
[07:49] <Arcanimus> add the universe repository
[07:49] <Arcanimus> universe/multiverse
[07:49] <Arcanimus> and then you have access to libgtk2.0
[07:49] <Arcanimus> from synaptic
[07:49] <MrJangles> is there a shortkey to lock screen in kde?
[07:50] <Arcanimus> not that i know of but you can right click your taskbar, MrJangles, and click add applet and "logout/lock applet"
[07:50] <Arcanimus> that's what I use
[07:50] <MrJangles> alrithx
[07:50] <Arcanimus> np
[07:50] <dandielionous> Okay I have installed universe/multiverse and I had part of the libgtk2.0 installed.  I am installing the rest of it now.
[07:50] <simlu> dan - ok, do you have an mp3 file?
[07:51] <dandielionous> Does this install gtk for me then?
[07:51] <dan_> simlu: yes, i do
[07:52] <dandielionous> Kind of sad all the work I've done compiling and it still don't work.
[07:52] <dandielionous> Of course if there is an easier softer way; I am interested in that. :)
[07:53] <owner> gtk should be available from synaptic
[07:53] <owner> just install everything with gtk in the name
[07:53] <owner> lol
[07:53] <dandielionous> lol
[07:53] <dandielionous> Sounds like my procedure. lol
[07:53] <simlu> dan - ok, in a console always, let's try to play a little song. type gst-launch filesrc location=/path/to/your/mp3/song.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink
[07:54] <dandielionous> Do any of you know where pkg-conf files are kept?  Or how I would update it?
[07:54] <dan_> simlu: i tried playing a song, it just doesnt work
[07:54] <dandielionous> Am I missing something here?
[07:54] <simlu> dan - you tried with what?
[07:55] <dandielionous> Okay it looks like I have the gtk libraries installed I appreciate the help.
[07:55] <dandielionous> Back to my project now.
[07:55] <dandielionous> ty ya'll so much.
[07:55] <dan_> simlu: i tried with amaroK and XMMS
[07:55] <dandielionous> What I'm really trying to do is to install the voice and video for gaim.
[07:55] <dandielionous> I'm trying to install gaim 2.0 which doesn't seem to have a debian.
[07:56] <dandielionous> <<<slowly, slowly learning.
[07:57] <owner> theres a gaim how to in the ubuntu forums
[07:57] <owner> in fact it works from the directory after using ./configure make
[07:57] <owner> no need to install
[07:57] <simlu> dan - that's up to you. the alsasink plugin will tell you if something is wrong with your card
[07:57] <simlu> dan - so I suggest you give it a try. you have nothing to loose
[07:58] <dandielionous> I used ./configure for gaim It said I needed gtk.
[07:58] <owner> oh
[07:58] <dandielionous> Which is how I got involved in gtk. lol
[07:58] <owner> lol
[07:58] <owner> compiling gtk is a big project
[07:58] <owner> with all the dependencies
[07:58] <dandielionous> Well I am certainly learning a lot.
[07:58] <dan_> simlu: ok. can you please write that comand again?
[07:58] <dandielionous> The problem I think I am having is the path command.
[07:59] <dandielionous> I don't think the gtk can find the dependencies I've installed.
[07:59] <simlu> dan - gst-launch filesrc location=/path/to/your/mp3/song.mp3 ! mad ! alsasink
[07:59] <dandielionous> Which led me to the pkg-conf command.
[07:59] <dandielionous> And even though I have the pkg-conf on my computer I can't seem to use the extensions.
[07:59] <dandielionous> ex: pkg-conf --version etc.
[08:00] <dandielionous> So I tried to use PKG_CONF_PATH and it says it can't find that command.
[08:00] <dandielionous> Which is why I was asking if anyone knows what package pkg-conf comes in.
[08:00] <dandielionous> Is it part of the build package?
[08:01] <dandielionous> Yes, it's a big project. :)
[08:02] <simlu> pkg-config is the command
[08:02] <dandielionous> Can you think of a reason pkg-config wouldn't be working for me?
[08:03] <simlu> if you type pkg-config, it doesn't work?
[08:03] <dandielionous> Parts of pkg-config seem to work and parts don't.
[08:03] <dandielionous> I can't seem to set the path with it or get the versions.
[08:03] <dandielionous> I have tried most the commands and not all of them are working.
[08:03] <simlu> the versions of pkg-config?
[08:04] <dandielionous> I was just trying the different commands.  Off the top of my head the one I remember is pkg-config --version.
[08:04] <dandielionous> Which did not work.
[08:04] <simlu> strange
[08:05] <dandielionous> That's what I thought.  I thought maybe it was the directory I was sitting in.
[08:05] <dandielionous> I made files in my home directory to do all this compiling and installing.
[08:05] <simlu> well, pkg-config is supposed to be in /usr/bin
[08:05] <dan_> simlu: i forgot my hard was deleten. i dont have any mp3
[08:05] <dandielionous> Since I didn't want to mess up my main program.
[08:07] <dandielionous> Where is the paste bin?
[08:07] <dandielionous> I tried installing gaim again and would like to show you my errors.
[08:08] <dandielionous> Aww found it.
[08:08] <owner> new wine is out wine 0.9.6-winehq-1
[08:09] <simlu> dan - ok dan
[08:09] <_mike> hi all, i'm back from my adventures with ndiswrapper and my Linksys USB Wireless adapter
[08:09] <dandielionous> Please check this out.
[08:09] <simlu> dan - try this: gst-launch sinesrc ! alsasink
[08:09] <dandielionous> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/516414
[08:10] <owner> wine sourceforge server is terribly slow
[08:10] <dandielionous> I have installed glib and gtk why am I getting these errors?
[08:10] <_mike> I go in to Network Settings, and it is finding a wireless network device...however I cant edit anything becuase it says "Click the Administrator Mode button"...where is that button?
[08:10] <simlu> mike - how was it?
[08:11] <_mike> The network settings window is too big for my screen, and I cant resize it to see whats at the bottom of the window
[08:11] <simlu> haha
[08:11] <_mike> which I'm assuiming is where the "Administrator Mode' button is
[08:11] <_mike> which i need to click to turn on the wireless
[08:11] <dark_suic> _mike, go to k menu -> run command
[08:11] <dark_suic> then type there kdesu systemsettings
[08:11] <dandielionous> Hello dark_suic :)
[08:11] <dark_suic> hi dandielionous :)
[08:12] <dark_suic> u got the computer working in the end, dandielionous ?
[08:12] <MrJangles> i have 2 partitions now, xp and ubuntu, if i get rid of windows, can i install it again, on that same partition without affecting the linux partitions?
[08:12] <_mike> dark_suic..thank you
[08:12] <dark_suic> nevermind _mike
[08:12] <dandielionous> I'm working on a new project now dark_suic .  owner and simlu have been helping me today.
[08:12] <dandielionous> I have my computer working.
[08:12] <dark_suic> MrJangles, theory : yes, practice, probably not, sorry
[08:13] <dandielionous> I'm just trying to install the new version of Gaim 2.0.
[08:13] <dark_suic> i've been seeing somethings, little things as i don't have too much time
[08:13] <dark_suic> ok :)
[08:13] <dandielionous> Thanks to you I've got this far dark_suic . :)
[08:13] <simlu> mrjandles - I think windows XP will destroy your mbr, so grub will mysteriously dissapear
[08:13] <dark_suic> well, me and a lot others, but nevermind, we all have been newbies :)
[08:14] <MrJangles> ya i figured grub wouldnt come back
[08:14] <dandielionous> Well, you're the one that took the time to tell me about synaptic dark_suic . )
[08:14] <MrJangles> if i chanced it, what files should i back on linux?
[08:14] <owner> you can reinstall grub from within ubuntu again
[08:14] <MrJangles> i guess there isnt much i can backup
[08:14] <dark_suic> well, it was another one... which i don't remember name, sorry :P who talked about synaptic and made me remember xD
[08:15] <dandielionous> Well, I guess I'm going to take my dog for a walk and then come back and work on this some more.
[08:15] <dark_suic> ok :)
[08:15] <dandielionous> ty dark_suic , owner and simlu for all your help.
[08:15] <MrJangles> i think i'm just gonna wipe everything
[08:16] <dark_suic> it's usually the better way if you don't want to do some hard googling :P
[08:16] <simlu> mrjandles - no need to do that. just get your hands on a livecd
[08:16] <MrJangles> ewww livecd
[08:16] <simlu> mrjandles - so if windows xp destroys your mbr (i'm pretty sure it will happen), use your livecd to re-install grub
[08:16] <MrJangles> ah i see
[08:17] <MrJangles> i have an old outdated livecd of ubuntu
[08:17] <MrJangles> would that work?
[08:17] <simlu> i guess so
[08:17] <dan_> simlu: the konsole says i dont have alsasink
[08:18] <simlu> dan - instead of alsasink. try osssink
[08:18] <MrJangles> is it simple to install grub with the livecd?
[08:18] <dan_> simlu: write the command oe more please
[08:19] <simlu> dan - try this: gst-launch sinesrc ! osssink
[08:19] <simlu> mrjandles - I don't know.. I never installed grub myself. maybe owner can help you
[08:20] <simlu> mrjandles - there's a man page for grub-install. check it out
[08:20] <MrJangles> thanks
[08:20] <dan_> simlu: it says : command not found
[08:20] <owner> mrjangles http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-76652.html
[08:21] <simlu> dan - command not found? but with alsasink it didn't say that right?
[08:22] <MrJangles> excellent, thanks
[08:23] <dan_> simlu: it said command not found with alsasink too
[08:23] <owner> dan probably needs to install new alsa
[08:23] <owner> download and compile
[08:23] <owner> then run alsaconf
[08:23] <MrJangles> owner: just to make sure of the steps. using wincd, i delete win partition, install win on that partition, grub will vanish, than follow link?
[08:23] <simlu> well i guess he just doesn't have gstreamer installed
[08:24] <dan_> owner: i just installed alsa
[08:24] <simlu> i thought it was installed with the installation of ubuntu
[08:24] <owner> dan try sudo apt-get install gstreamer-plugins
[08:24] <owner> it is simlu, but it doesnt work perfectly for everyone
[08:24] <owner> for a start ubuntu devs left out alsaconf
[08:25] <owner> it auto detects and sets up your sound chipset
[08:25] <dan_> owner: it says Couldn't find package gstreamer-plugins
[08:25] <simlu> his card is detected by alsa
[08:25] <simlu> I don't think alsa is the problem
[08:26] <dan_> simlu: then what is the problem?
[08:27] <owner> dan it should be sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins
[08:27] <simlu> install gstreamer too
[08:27] <benq2006> hey
[08:27] <benq2006> i have question
[08:27] <dan_> Reading package lists... Done
[08:27] <dan_> Building dependency tree... Done
[08:27] <dan_> Package gstreamer0.8-plugins is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[08:27] <dan_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[08:27] <dan_> is only available from another source
[08:27] <dan_> E: Package gstreamer0.8-plugins has no installation candidate
[08:27] <dan_> thats what it says
[08:28] <owner> dan http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:28] <owner> use that
[08:28] <owner> and after it makes one for you
[08:28] <dan_> owner: ill try
[08:28] <simlu> i gotta go
[08:28] <owner> do sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:28] <simlu> catch your later
[08:28] <owner> replace it with the new one
[08:29] <dan_> owner: i entered the link
[08:29] <owner> select all the options
[08:29] <dan_> owner: what should i do there?
[08:29] <owner> you are running 5.10 breezy right
[08:29] <dan_> what?
[08:29] <dan_> no
[08:29] <owner> hoary?
[08:29] <dan_> im running kubuntu 5.04
[08:30] <owner> okay
[08:30] <apachelogger> omg
[08:30] <owner> select hoary sources then
[08:30] <owner> if you select breezy it will update you to breezy
[08:30] <owner> select all the checkboxes on the page
[08:31] <owner> then give me sources.list
[08:31] <dan_> should i select only those wich work on hoary too?
[08:31] <owner> yea
[08:31] <dan_> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[08:31] <dan_> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

[08:31] <dan_> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
[08:31] <dan_> <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />
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[08:32] <owner> lol
[08:32] <owner> lol dan
[08:32] <vge> powned
[08:32] <dan_> i know
[08:32] <dan_> so?
[08:32] <dan_> did you figure it out?
[08:32] <owner> you paste that file into /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:32] <owner> overwriting your old one
[08:32] <vge> use pastebin that link you find in the topic
[08:33] <owner> !pastebin
[08:33] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[08:33] <dan_> owner: i dont understand
[08:33] <owner> did it open a new text file for you dan
[08:33] <dan_> yes
[08:33] <owner> type sudo kedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[08:33] <owner> in a terminal
[08:33] <owner> and replace everything with that new file
[08:33] <owner> copy and paste over the old file
[08:34] <weedar> A friend brought over an mp3 player (sony, model unknown) and I'm not sure how to mount it, any tips?
[08:34] <dan_> command not found
[08:34] <dan_> owner
[08:34] <owner> do sudo apt-get install kedit
[08:34] <dan_> look
[08:35] <apachelogger> weedar: I think it will be mounted automatic if it is supported
[08:35] <jorik> weedar, normally, just plug it in n itll "just works"
[08:35] <dan_> my friend is coming in like 5 min
[08:35] <weedar> but still it'll need a mount point, what device will it be given?
[08:35] <dan_> he knows kubuntu a lot better
[08:35] <dan_> you should talk to him
[08:35] <owner> ok
[08:35] <jorik> if not, do ls /dev/sd* and see if you spot it there n mount it manually
[08:35] <owner> but
[08:35] <owner> you can finish editing your sources.list
[08:35] <dan_> because i dont understand a thin what your saying
[08:36] <weedar> no jorik , it doesn't create a /dev/sd* entry
[08:37] <jorik> weedar, stock kernel ?
[08:37] <weedar> yeah jorik, 2.6.12-9
[08:37] <dan_> owner: talk to my friend: hvm
[08:37] <hvm> yeah, hi
[08:38] <owner> hi
[08:38] <jorik> very strange ... does this mp3player work on windows-anything-better-then-98 without any drivers ?
[08:38] <dan_> yes
[08:38] <dan_> it does
[08:38] <weedar> jorik, I can only assume, I don't have windows on this computer and my friend is not computerliterate
[08:39] <dan_> owner: talk to hvm
[08:39] <owner> hvm goto http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&q=ubuntu+sources+generator&btnG=Google+Search&meta=
[08:39] <owner> and select all the hoary updates
[08:40] <jorik> hmmm, well thing is, if it's just mass-storage it should "just works" (on a stock kernel). but if it doesnt work on eg XP without a driver you're skruwt unless you find a linux driver for it
[08:42] <weedar> jorik, ok. Thanks though :)
[08:43] <weedar> jorik, want to hear the embarrasing thruth? I hadn't connected the usb hub to an usb port, it works now :) *blushes*
[08:49] <jorik> weedar, shame on you !! :D
[08:49] <jorik> well im off got stuff to see, ppl to do
[09:17] <dandielionous> Does anyone know how to print the value of a variable for ex: LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:18] <dandielionous> Or how I would see the what the current path is set at?
[09:18] <Tm_T> echo $LANG
[09:18] <Tm_T> en_GB.ISO-8859-15
[09:19] <Tm_T> works here
[09:19] <dandielionous> Are you speaking to me Tm_T ?
[09:19] <Tm_T> dandielionous: oh yes
[09:19] <dandielionous> ty Tm_T .
[09:19] <Tm_T> apachelogger: hi son
[09:19] <apachelogger> hey mom
[09:19] <Tm_T> how are you?
[09:20] <Tm_T> ubotu: what's up
[09:20] <ubotu> everything is okay thanks
[09:20] <Tm_T> :)
[09:20] <Tm_T> apachelogger: I'm not that cryptic
[09:20] <dandielionous> All that did when I type echo LD_LIBRARY_PATH is it echoed LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:20] <Tm_T> dandielionous: $LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:21] <Tm_T> $ there ;)
[09:21] <dandielionous> Okay ty Tm_T  I just tried that and got a blank.
[09:21] <Tm_T> so it's not set
[09:21] <dandielionous> I thought about that $ after I asked that.
[09:21] <dandielionous> lol
[09:21] <dandielionous> That's for a string value correct.
[09:22] <dandielionous> Okay if it's not set could be part of my problem.
[09:22] <Tm_T> what's your problem then?
[09:23] <dandielionous> I guess I have to set the path.
[09:23] <dandielionous> doh
[09:23] <dandielionous> lol
[09:24] <Tm_T> dandielionous: I have it blank too, so what's your problem?
[09:24] <dandielionous> My problem is that I installed the latest version of glib.
[09:24] <dandielionous> I'm trying to install gaim 2.0
[09:25] <larsivi> hei TjaFs
[09:25] <Tm_T> dandielionous: and?
[09:25] <dandielionous> pkg-conf --modversion returns a version number of 2.8.3 and 2.8.6
[09:25] <TjaFs> hei
[09:25] <Tm_T> TjaFs: hei hei
[09:25] <dandielionous> ./configure error told me to remove the old version of glib
[09:26] <dandielionous> Or to modify LD_LIBRARY_PATH
[09:26] <Tm_T> dandielionous: and you installed new glib how?
[09:26] <dandielionous> I compiled it.
[09:26] <Tm_T> ok, so you have two glibs then
[09:26] <dandielionous> But gtk couldn't find it when I wanted to configure gtk either.
[09:26] <apachelogger> btw, is it just me or is kdesu from 3.5 having big problems?
[09:26] <Tm_T> apachelogger: haven't noticed, try add/enable root account
[09:26] <dandielionous> So I think I installed everything in the wrong directories or/and should have removed the old programs.
[09:27] <Tm_T> dandielionous: you installed new glib wrong place
[09:27] <apachelogger> Tm_T: is enabled
[09:27] <dandielionous> I'm just afraid that when I try to remove the old glib that I will remove the new glib also.
[09:27] <Tm_T> apachelogger: oh then, dunno, should work
[09:27] <dandielionous> I'm pretty sure I installed it in the wrong place.
[09:27] <hawking> do any of you know a cool program to view system logs?
[09:27] <dandielionous> But I'm not sure Tm_T what is the right place.
[09:27] <Tm_T> dandielionous: just uninstall new one, and then reconfigure it correctly and reinstall
[09:27] <Tm_T> dandielionous: I'm pretty sure
[09:27] <apachelogger> Tm_T: well, it stops working after some time ... and I use it quite a lot so it's really annoying :|
[09:28] <dandielionous> Okay I was thinking of all the dependancies.
[09:28] <Tm_T> apachelogger: me too, but it just works here, dapperdapperdapperdapper <3
[09:28] <Tm_T> dandielionous: just glib I think
[09:28] <apachelogger> aye, dapper :D
[09:28] <dandielionous> If I uninstall the old glib and reset the path I'll mess up everything else on my system correct?
[09:28] <apachelogger> should maybe upgrade
[09:29] <dandielionous> So if I unstall the new one where would the correct directory for glib.
[09:29] <dandielionous> And if I install the new one in the correct directory will it overwrite the old one?
[09:29] <dandielionous> Or does the old one still need uninstalled?
[09:30] <dandielionous> <<<getting confused.
[09:30] <Tm_T> dandielionous: yes, it will overwrite old one
[09:30] <Tm_T> and that's exactly what you're doing
[09:31] <dandielionous> Okay great Tm_T so I should uninstall the new one.
[09:31] <Tm_T> dandielionous: no warranty with it though =)
[09:31] <Tm_T> dandielionous: yes
[09:31] <dandielionous> Do you know what command that would be?
[09:31] <Tm_T> just do make uninstall where you did make install
[09:31] <dandielionous> ty so much I appreciate that.
[09:32] <dandielionous> Okay back to the salt mine.
[09:32] <dandielionous> Any idea where glib is supposed to go?
[09:32] <dandielionous> Just on the off chance you might know. :)
[09:33] <Tm_T> dandielionous: --prefix=`kde-config --prefix`
[09:33] <Tm_T> or --prefix=/usr
[09:33] <dandielionous> What does that do Tm_T ?
[09:34] <dandielionous> Does that tell me my configuration?
[09:34] <Tm_T> dandielionous: use that with ./configure
[09:34] <Tm_T> ./configure --help tell you more
[09:34] <dandielionous> ty so much I appreciate the help.
[09:35] <ubuntu> holas
[09:36] <Tm_T> he had much to say
[09:36] <Tm_T> ok, I'm off for awhile, dandielionous good luck with it ->
[09:36] <dandielionous> ty so much Tm_T .
[09:36] <dandielionous> :)
[09:40] <Flosoft> hey
[09:41] <Flosoft> are there any experts on samba here?
[09:43] <malubankudi> hey i installed kubunut using sypatic or w/e
[09:43] <malubankudi> i was on ubuntu
[09:43] <malubankudi> but i didnt get the kde desktop, i just got the aps
[09:44] <Elsan_> Is the KDE javascript fix gonna be put in the repositories?
[09:45] <apachelogger> malubankudi: have you installed kubuntu-desktop?
[09:45] <malubankudi> yes apache
[09:45] <lordjoe> malubankudi: 'sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager' might help... you should also be able to choose kde from gnome's login manager
[09:46] <malubankudi> from the log in manger?
[09:46] <malubankudi> o yes when i enter my username and stuff i can tell its kubuntu
[09:47] <malubankudi> but once i log in its all gnome
[09:47] <hawking> when I try to run ksystemlog it gets stucked and then killed
[09:47] <hawking> why is that?
[09:48] <lordjoe> malubankudi: I think there is a button labelled "sessions" in the lower left that you should look at in the login manager
[09:54] <seicherlbob> hi! i still cant get kaffeine working. it keeps hanging with the message that ressources are in use or unavailable and then some crazy stuff... can anybody help me?
[09:59] <leafw> any updates for konqueror?
[09:59] <Cube-ness> hmm.. question.. how do i get the box thats created when i click/drag on the desktop for icon selection to be filled with a color?
[10:00] <leafw> anyone aware of the slashdot-reported konqueror vuulnerability?
[10:02] <hawking> when I try to run ksystemlog it gets stucked and then killed what could be the reason?
[10:03] <seicherlbob> can anybody help me getting kaffeine and/or totem running?
[10:04] <hawking> :/ has noone ever tried to run ksystemlog here?
[10:04] <seicherlbob> yes... mine looks good
[10:05] <Cerulean> Hey. I'm trying to configure my printer using the KDE Add Printer wizard
[10:06] <Cerulean> I've selected the device (USB#1) and the printer model (Epson Stylus Photo 810)
[10:06] <Cerulean> but once I hit next I get the following error:
[10:06] <Cerulean> http://rafb.net/paste/results/ywfFjx76.html
[10:07] <Cerulean> What could the problem be?
[10:09] <Cerulean> I have foomatic-db-gimp-print installed and am running the application with superuser privileges
[10:09] <C-O-L-T> where can I get all the multiuniverse packages and write to a cd (so those which can play mp3, avi and so on)????
[10:11] <seicherlbob> C-O-L-T: you need the codecs. hold on a moment
[10:11] <seicherlbob> C-O-L-T: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[10:11] <seicherlbob> there you see how to enable multiverse and universe support for your synaptic
[10:14] <Cerulean> No worries. gnome-cups-manager installs the printer just fine.
[10:15] <hara__> help. why doesn't "display" command show jpg's anymore, it just says:
[10:15] <hara__> display: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'.
[10:15] <hara__> display: unable to load font `-*-helvetica-medium-r-normal--12-*-*-*-*-*-iso8859-1'.
[10:18] <leafw> hara__: you may have installed whatever that changed the configuration for the default fonts, which 'display' (imagemagik) can't find anymore
[10:19] <hara__> hmm, no idea what that would be. don't understand why it needs fonts to display images...
[10:20] <Elsan_> Is the KDE javascript fix gonna be put in the repositories?
[10:22] <[mX] > anyone in here happen to have a thinkpad t42?
[10:24] <seicherlbob> [mx]  no, but R52. whats the problem?
[10:25] <[mX] > well everything I read says the built in wifi is supported out of the box
[10:25] <[mX] > and the device is read, but access to it causes extremely funky things to happen with the system
[10:25] <[mX] > and the wifi lite doesn't come up on the LED display
[10:25] <[mX] > not to mention it doesn't actually connect at all
[10:26] <[mX] > I was using the ndiswrapper with SuSE, but people with T42's online seem to have not had a problem with it out of the box
[10:26] <seicherlbob> well... sorry for you. but mine worked as mentioned "out of the box"
[10:27] <seicherlbob> u run kde on ubuntu, right?
[10:27] <[mX] > no I installed Kubunutu from the install cd, though that's more than likely the same as installing ubuntu and then apt-get'ing the kubuntu dist?
[10:28] <seicherlbob> have you had a look on Kmenu->System->Networking
[10:29] <seicherlbob> try to klick trough the "wireless" part there. it helped to get mine running.
[10:29] <[mX] > yeah well, the problem is not registering the device, but the fact that the drivers aren't necessarily working
[10:29] <[mX] > hi aseigo :)
[10:30] <aseigo> you peeps
[10:30] <aseigo> er, yo peeps
[10:31] <seicherlbob> well.... sorry then. dont think i can help more than this.
[10:31] <[mX] > ah it's all good, I'll figure it out.. perhaps I'll just use the ndiswrapper again
[10:31] <[mX] > thanks
[10:32] <seicherlbob> np. enjoy your thinkpad!
[10:43] <Xemanth^> does somebody know with what command i can run job at background? like i run updatedb at background and do something else during it... bg and fg are related to that job thingy
[10:45] <lordjoe> Xemanth^: just add an '&' to the end of the command
[10:46] <Xemanth^> so it would be like updatedb& ?
[10:46] <Xemanth^> yeah thanks _o/
[10:46] <lordjoe> yes, you can put a space if you'd like also
[10:49] <Xemanth^> yeah thats the thingy what im looking for :)
[10:54] <hawking> I accidently deleted /var/log/ is there a way to recover it?
[11:00] <seicherlbob> hawking: what filesystem?
[11:00] <hawking> seicherlbob : ext3
[11:00] <hawking> whY?
[11:01] <Zappa> anyone have any experience with 5.1 speakers on nforce2 audio? i've set it to 6 channel mode in kmix but i'm still only getting audio out of my front speakers
[11:02] <seicherlbob> hawking: i'm sorry for you. i had an etx3 aswell and tried to recover files that i deleted incidently.... didnt work at all. sorry, i cant help you, but i feel with you!
[11:02] <hawking> what fs do i have to have to do recovery?
[11:05] <dan_> hi all
[11:07] <dan_> ive got a question
[11:07] <seicherlbob> hawking: there are a couple of tools that work with ext2. you can give it a try, but for me they didnt work. there are a couple of things you can try. but the most important thing is: set the device read-only. otherwise you will overwrite your files
[11:07] <bobesponja> dan_: hey
[11:07] <hawking> ok thank you
[11:07] <dan_> is thhere some way to see a list of the persons who are logged on  the chanel?
[11:08] <dan_> bobesponja: whats up?
[11:08] <cplusplus> hi...i now installed kubuntu
[11:08] <cplusplus> but how can i login as root?
[11:08] <dan_> well, i installed kubuntu this morning
[11:09] <cplusplus> hm?
[11:09] <dan_> sincerly, i already logged in as root but  i forgot how to do it
[11:09] <BurgerMann> Hi. If I load up an iso file in K3b, will it then burn the contents of the iso file or just burn the iso file it self?
[11:09] <bobesponja> dan_: yo want to know who's connected to this channel?
[11:09] <cplusplus> hm?
[11:09] <dan_> bobesponja:   yes
[11:10] <cplusplus> user: root, password: root
[11:10] <cplusplus> down work
[11:10] <cplusplus> dont
[11:10] <seicherlbob> hawking: it is horrible and it takes a couple of days to recover files. but try google and maybe #ubuntu. there are not many people with positive recover experience
[11:10] <dan_> why not?
[11:10] <bobesponja> dan_: what software do you use?
[11:10] <Slaphappy> can anyone tell me where or what is kde3.5 composite extension manager and how i can get it
[11:10] <dan_> bobesponja: i use kubuntu 5.04
[11:10] <sampan> burgerman, you can burn the iso as a file or select tools --> burn cd image (to burn it as an iso image)
[11:11] <rance> hawking: I just got here, what happened?
[11:11] <dan_> Slaphappy: try getting it from www.kde.or
[11:11] <bobesponja> dan_: what software do you use to chat?
[11:11] <dan_> *www.kde.org
[11:11] <Slaphappy> will look there
[11:11] <BurgerMann> sampan: thx :)
[11:11] <dan_> bobesponja: Konversation
[11:11] <bobesponja> dan_: well can yo usee on the right who's connected to the channel?
[11:12] <dan_> bobesponja: no, thats why i asked
[11:12] <rance> bobesponja: Konversation, never saw it till I switched to kubuntu, but I like it now
[11:12] <dan_> bobesponja: i thaught maye theres some special command
[11:13] <dan_> rance: KUBUNTU RULLZ
[11:13] <cplusplus> hello?
[11:13] <rance> I also like that I can program my authentication to freenode
[11:13] <dan_> hello
[11:13] <cplusplus> how can i login as root?
[11:13] <Flosoft> sudo su
[11:13] <bobesponja> dan_:  well I've never used konversation without the bar on the right with the list of users connected, that weird yo don't have it, let me check
[11:13] <Flosoft> in a console
[11:13] <rance> hey dan_, for a client/workstation its by far my favorite linux so far
[11:13] <dan_> user root pass root
[11:13] <cplusplus> and kubuntu login?
[11:13] <cplusplus> root root dont work
[11:14] <cplusplus> at kde login...
[11:14] <Flosoft> well you can't ... Kubuntu is a sudo system
[11:14] <dan_> rance: i like kubuntu and damien
[11:14] <bobesponja> cplusplus: "sudo su"
[11:14] <rance> damien?
[11:14] <kkathman> please dont activate the root account :)
[11:14] <rance> never heard of that one
[11:14] <dan_> its great
[11:14] <kkathman> its not necessary with ubuntu :)
[11:14] <dan_> you should try it
[11:14] <kkathman> sudo is a much better model
[11:14] <dan_> look guys
[11:14] <kkathman> more secure
[11:15] <dan_> ive got a problem
[11:15] <dan_> with my sound
[11:15] <bobesponja> Flosoft: yes he can jut "sudo su"
[11:15] <dan_> it doesnt work
[11:15] <kkathman> bobesponja: we dont advocate the activation of root
[11:15] <dan_> do tou have any idea what i should do?
[11:15] <bobesponja> dan_: to get the list of users?
[11:15] <kkathman> dan_: when you say it doesnt work, are we talking through a specific Application or what?
[11:16] <dan_> kkathman: no, the sound just doesnt work. i cant hear a thing
[11:16] <kkathman> ok..well I dont know what you've done, so I'll start with the obvious...
[11:16] <bobesponja> dan_: reduce the konversation's window and select the right border with your mouse, then drag it to the left, should do it
[11:17] <kkathman> system settings, sound and multimedia...be sure its activated
[11:17] <dan_> kkathman: its activated
[11:18] <kkathman> ok well thats good
[11:18] <kkathman> ok
[11:18] <dan_> ieah
[11:18] <dan_> *yeah
[11:18] <rance> does anybody know how to activate and DEactivate cdrom automount in kubuntu?
[11:18] <kkathman> do you have a speaker in your tray dan_ ?
[11:18] <dan_> whats a tray kkathman?
[11:19] <kkathman> hmm you dont have your sys tray activated?
[11:19] <kkathman> usually on the kicker
[11:19] <kkathman> at the bottom
[11:19] <dan_> kkathman: ive got no idea what a tray is
[11:20] <kkathman> ok... well let me try this...have you looked at the following:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28SOund%29
[11:20] <bobesponja> dan_: if you sound, you need to add you user to the sound group
[11:20] <rance> dan_ on a default kubuntu install its on the bottom of the screen in the grey bar over next to the trash can and the clock, it expands to show certian system tray applications
[11:20] <rance> one would be the speaker volume control panel
[11:20] <dan_> bobesponja: i already am in the audio group
[11:20] <kkathman> bobesponja: are you an ubuntu user?
[11:20] <bobesponja> kkathman: yes
[11:21] <kkathman> just wondered cuz the things you say dont sound ubuntu-like :)
[11:21] <kkathman> there is no SOUND group in ubuntu
[11:21] <dan_> rance: well, i think i dont have a tray
[11:21] <kkathman> unless its manually done that is
[11:21] <bobesponja> kkathman: my bad, it's audio
[11:21] <kkathman> dan_:  you probably just dont have it enabled on the kicker
[11:21] <seicherlbob> anybody ever used a dualscreen-system on ati?
[11:21] <kkathman> take a look at the page I sent you , dan_  it shows the common sound issues
[11:22] <dan_> kkathman: probably. how do i activate it?
[11:22] <dan_> kkathman: ive already visited that page
[11:22] <kkathman> dan_: you've gone through ALL of those options??????????
[11:22] <dan_> yup.........
[11:22] <bobesponja> dan_: do you have a TV card?
[11:22] <dan_> and i found up ..........nothing
[11:22] <kkathman> if you have then you probably have a non supported sound card
[11:23] <dan_> bobesponja: nmo
[11:23] <dan_> *no
[11:23] <kkathman> cuz those pages solve about 99% of supported probs :)
[11:23] <kkathman> what sound card is it?
[11:23] <dan_> kkathman: linux recognnized my sound card and sayd its ok
[11:23] <kkathman> what is it
[11:23] <dan_> i dunno
[11:24] <kkathman> dan_: you need to find out the sound card :)
[11:24] <kkathman> then modprobe it like that page says
[11:25] <kkathman> obviously you didnt read those pages :)
[11:25] <dan_> kkathman: how do i do that?
[11:25] <rance> hey dan_ do an "lspci" from a terminal window and the multimeda audio controller line should tell you what sound card you have
[11:25] <kkathman> those pages tell you exactly
[11:25] <dan_> kkathman: look, linux recogized my sound card and said its ok
[11:25] <kkathman> please dont say you've read the pages when what you are asking the pages spell out completely :)
[11:25] <kkathman> that doesnt make a difference
[11:26] <cplusplus> bobesponja how can i change the currant user at kde?
[11:26] <kkathman> recognizing it and installing the correct driver are 2 different things
[11:26] <dan_> kkathman: leave it man
[11:26] <cplusplus> here at kde im not a root user!
[11:26] <kkathman> I can put a hard drive in my system and it will be recognized but its not going to work untill I do things to it :)
[11:26] <bobesponja> cplusplus: click on the K icon and Switch user
[11:26] <dan_> ok
[11:26] <cplusplus> bobesponja?
[11:26] <cplusplus> yes
[11:26] <dan_> so..........tell me what i should do
[11:26] <cplusplus> but root - root dont work
[11:26] <cplusplus> make new user?
[11:27] <kkathman> dan_:  Im telling you to please go through those pages I sent you
[11:27] <bobesponja> cplusplus: its not root root it's "sudo su" and then enter you normal user password
[11:27] <dan_> kkathman: look, let me be sincer. i read those pages but i didnt understand a thing
[11:27] <cplusplus> bobesponja only at terminal!?
[11:27] <bobesponja> cplusplus: yes
[11:27] <cplusplus> now iam at kubuntu login...
[11:28] <bobesponja> cplusplus: what do you mean?
[11:28] <cplusplus> is there no root user available?
[11:28] <bobesponja> rhj
[11:28] <kkathman> ok dan_
[11:28] <bobesponja> cplusplus: no
[11:28] <cplusplus> kubuntu session
[11:28] <cplusplus> oh
[11:28] <dan_> kkathman: so, what should i do next?
[11:28] <bobesponja> cplusplus: but you can run application as root if you  want
[11:28] <kkathman> dan_:  we cant do a darned thing until we know what your sound card is...is it something you installed , or is it on the motherboard
[11:29] <dan_> its onboard
[11:29] <bobesponja> cplusplus: start a kde session and then run "kdesu kwrite" or whatever
[11:29] <dan_> kkathman: how do i find out what my soundcard is?
[11:29] <bobesponja> dan_: lspci
[11:30] <bobesponja> kkathman: I suppose it's an intel
[11:30] <cplusplus> hm
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400/KT600 AGP]  Host Bridge (rev 80)
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 PCI Bridge
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:0b.0 Ethernet controller: Realtek Semiconductor Co., Ltd. RTL-8169 Gigabit Ethernet (rev 10)
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:0f.0 RAID bus controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VIA VT6420 SATA RAID Controller (rev 80)
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:0f.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT823x/A/C PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06)
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[11:30] <kkathman> arGHHHH dont paste here!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[11:30] <kkathman> ugh
[11:30] <dan_> 0000:00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82xxxxx UHCI USB 1.1 Controller (rev 81)
[11:31] <dan_> 0000:00:10.4 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 86)
[11:31] <zeus> gggg
[11:31] <zeus> lol
[11:31] <dan_> 0000:00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8237 ISA bridge [K8T800 South] 
[11:31] <dan_> 0000:00:11.5 Multimedia audio controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8233/A/8235/8237 AC97 Audio Controller (rev 60)
[11:31] <dan_> 0000:00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II]  (rev 78)
[11:31] <dan_> 0000:01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV34 [GeForce FX 5200]  (rev a1)
[11:31] <dan_> thas what it says
[11:31] <dan_> well srry
[11:31] <bobesponja> dan_: only past the line that has Audio in it
[11:31] <rance> theres his sound card
[11:31] <bobesponja> dan_: too late
[11:31] <bobesponja> lol
[11:31] <dan_> lol
[11:31] <kkathman> its just a standard AC97
[11:31] <kkathman> hmm
[11:32] <karvr> anyone know how i can enable the icon view in konqeror to actually work i have media that wont display a small graphic picture to identify it
[11:32] <dan_> so?
[11:32] <rance> hey dan_ if its any comfort, thats the same soundcard thats on my pc on my motherboard, and it does work
[11:32] <dan_> rance: thx
[11:32] <sampan> another vote of confidence that it's possible to get it working: my laptop with ac97 works fine too
[11:32] <rance> mine worked right after the box tho
[11:33] <sampan> mine too
[11:33] <bobesponja> dan_: that means you have the kind of sound card that work out of the box on linux, so the problem is not with the kernel
[11:34] <seicherlbob> hawking: if you're still here: just create the directory again and the system should run smoothly. the data will still be lost but as long as you dont need the old log-files you're fine
[11:34] <rance> hey guys, Ive got a hunch his install cd got a corrupted download, I mean his default kde install isnt right, his ac97 soundcard isnt detected automatically, Im starting to think the cd that he installed from is broken
[11:34] <dan_> bobeponja: then whats the  problem
[11:34] <angasule> !flash
[11:34] <ubotu> restricted is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:34] <cplusplus> bobesponja i mounted a ntfs partition! it works with the termonal...i can access it!!
[11:34] <sampan> rance, what's wrong with his kde?  (iirc from last night he said he's running hoary, not breezy)
[11:34] <cplusplus> but i dont have enough rights at konqueror!!
[11:35] <cplusplus> hm...what can i do?
[11:35] <kkathman> dan_: can you go to the KDE menu and under multimedia choose volume?
[11:35] <rance> oh man, hoary? ok maybe not then, but if its breezy, what hes describing sure isnt correct
[11:35] <dan_> kkathman: explain it more detailed. where is it?
[11:35] <kkathman> K-menu, Multimedia
[11:36] <dan_> yess...............
[11:36] <cplusplus> owner: root, group: root <--- bobesponja
[11:36] <bobesponja> cplusplus: that's cause you didn't give the right permissions
[11:36] <cplusplus> how can i change it?
[11:36] <dan_> kkathman: what should i select in multimedia?
[11:36] <kkathman> dan_:  Volume control
[11:37] <dan_> there isnt  such a thing
[11:37] <kkathman> ??
[11:37] <dan_> isnt kmix good?
[11:37] <bobesponja> cplusplus: what does you fstab line looks like?
[11:37] <kkathman> yes thats fine :)
[11:37] <dan_> ok
[11:37] <dan_> what next?
[11:37] <bobesponja> cplusplus: only past the line with the ntfs line
[11:38] <kkathman> well if you had your sys tray on, you could see the speaker :)
[11:38] <cplusplus> /etc/fstab ?
[11:38] <bobesponja> cplusplus: yes
[11:38] <dan_> where?
[11:38] <cplusplus> no permission
[11:38] <cplusplus> hm
[11:38] <kkathman> dan_ right click on your kicker and choose add applet to panell
[11:39] <kkathman> dan_:  then choose System Tray
[11:39] <bobesponja> cplusplus: cat /etc/fstab
[11:39] <kkathman> you should see the speaker there
[11:39] <hyphenated> I looked in the unofficial FAQ mentioned in the topic... how can I stop kaffeine loading when I insert a DVD in the drive?
[11:39] <dan_> kkathman: there is no system tray in the list
[11:39] <dan_> kkathman: i probably dont have it
[11:40] <cplusplus> bobesponja the ntfs partition is not listened
[11:40] <sampan> O_O
[11:40] <cplusplus> first unmount it?
[11:40] <bobesponja> cplusplus: yes
[11:40] <kkathman> dan_ you are runnin KDE right?
[11:41] <dan_> right
[11:41] <kkathman> dan_:  do you see the option "Add APPLET to panel" ??
[11:41] <kkathman> not Application
[11:41] <dan_> yes
[11:41] <kkathman> but Applet
[11:42] <sampan> weird -- maybe rance is right and the install cd is messed -- b/c he -should- have sys tray applet (even if it's already on, it would still be in the add applet panel, just greyed out)
[11:42] <kkathman> and when you click it, system tray isnt there?
[11:42] <dan_> yes
[11:42] <bobesponja> cplusplus: there is a tool in kubuntu to mount partitions
[11:42] <twan> so how can I list running processes and kill running processes, in terminal?
[11:42] <dan_> exactly
[11:42] <kkathman> dan_: if its not, either you have something odd, or the system tray is already on your kicker
[11:42] <sampan> twan, ps aux will list processes
[11:42] <dan_> well..........
[11:42] <dan_> how does the system tray lok like?
[11:42] <bobesponja> cplusplus: if you don't find it, google: mount ntfs partition linux
[11:43] <bobesponja> :)
[11:43] <dan_> kkathman: system tray is displayed in the list but it isnt active
[11:43] <kkathman> dan_:  it has little icons like a clipboard with a K on it, for instance
[11:44] <dan_> well then
[11:44] <kkathman> usually on the right side of your kicker
[11:44] <dan_> i have it displayed
[11:44] <kkathman> next to the clock
[11:44] <dan_> yes
[11:44] <dan_> y see it
[11:44] <kkathman> ok...do you see a speaker icon there?
[11:44] <dan_> yes
[11:44] <kkathman> good.. click that
[11:44] <dan_> i did
[11:44] <kkathman> click "mixer"
[11:45] <twan> it keeps saying firefox is running but not responding, but i checked my processes and it isn't there
[11:45] <dan_> i did
[11:45] <sampan> twan, ps aux
[11:45] <sampan> errr
[11:45] <sampan> twan, ps aux| grep firefox
[11:45] <Slaphappy> or killall firefox
[11:45] <sampan> does that return two lines?  or just one (showing grep firefox)
[11:45] <Slaphappy> or killall mozila-firefox
[11:45] <kkathman> dan_:  ok... now do you see a bunch of sliders?
[11:45] <dan_> yes
[11:46] <dandielionous> Has anyone actually got gaim vv to work?
[11:46] <dan_> they are all active an switched up
[11:46] <dandielionous> gaim voice video
[11:46] <kkathman> dan_:  ok... at the top of the sliders, there are little green lights
[11:46] <dan_> yes
[11:46] <dan_> they are all green
[11:46] <kkathman> all of them?
[11:46] <dan_> yup........
[11:46] <dan_> i engaged them
[11:46] <dan_> thinking maybe thats the problem
[11:47] <dan_> should i deactivate some of them?
[11:47] <dan_> wich?
[11:47] <cplusplus> umount /Daten sould work?
[11:47] <kkathman> dan_:  ok...now be sure that the volume levels on master, PCM and the AC97 one is high
[11:47] <kkathman> the others can be too if you want
[11:47] <vge> ubuntuforums down again?
[11:47] <dan_> yup........
[11:47] <dan_> they are all high
[11:47] <hawking> vge : yeah
[11:47] <kkathman> dan_:  ok...click the SWITCHES tab
[11:48] <kkathman> dan_:  what "lights" are on here?
[11:48] <dan_> external amplifier
[11:49] <dan_> and.........IEC 958 Capture Valid
[11:49] <cplusplus> umount /Daten  bash: /Daten not found...
[11:49] <cplusplus> /mnt/Daten ?
[11:49] <dan_> those 2 only
[11:49] <kkathman> dan_: switch on the IEC958, the IEC958 output also
[11:49] <kkathman> your title may vary
[11:50] <dan_> wich ones?
[11:50] <dan_> ive got a bunc of IEC 958
[11:50] <kkathman> anything having to do with IEC958
[11:50] <kkathman> and/or AC97
[11:50] <dan_> ok
[11:50] <dan_> i did
[11:50] <kkathman> ok close that panel
[11:50] <kkathman> and try something
[11:50] <dan_> should sound work now?
[11:51] <dan_> ok
[11:51] <kkathman> preferable
[11:51] <kkathman> best way is to reboot and see if you get sound on boot :)
[11:51] <kkathman> or pretend you are going to sign off :)
[11:51] <dan_> kkathman: it still soent work
[11:51] <kkathman> hmmm
[11:52] <dan_> i cant boot right now
[11:52] <kkathman> ohh ok
[11:52] <dan_> im downloading some sound packages
[11:52] <kkathman> ahh ok
[11:52] <kkathman> let that finish then
[11:52] <dan_> hoping that will solve the problem
[11:53] <dan_> kkathman: keep in touch
[11:54] <kkathman> dan_:  ok...I need to leave for a bit to pick up my wife at the airport tho
[11:54] <dan_> kkasthman: how old are you?
[11:55] <kkathman> im an old man :)
[11:55] <kkathman> hehe
[11:55] <kkathman> prolly by your standards at least :)
[11:55] <dan_> kkathan: lol. im only 14
[11:55] <kkathman> Im your dad's age probably if not a little older
[11:55] <kkathman> I have a son thats 16 one thats 23 and a daughter 21
[11:55] <dan_> hope youll live old
[11:56] <bobesponja> dan_: do you have mplayer?
[11:56] <dan_> bobesponja: mplayer= madia player?
[11:56] <bobesponja> dan_: yo udon't have it
[11:56] <cplusplus> bobesponja i unmounted it but its not visible in /cat/etc/fstab
[11:57] <dan_> bobesponja: i have Kaffeine, amaroK, XMMS............
[11:57] <dan_> loog guys
[11:57] <bobesponja> cplusplus: I said type the commmand "cat /etc/fstab" :)
[11:57] <dan_> i have to reboot
[11:57] <dan_> buh-bye
[11:57] <dan_> brb
[11:58] <twan> How can I check if I'm logged in as root?
[12:00] <cplusplus> bobesponja yes i am right!
[12:00] <cplusplus> cat /etc/fstab !
[12:01] <bobesponja> cplusplus: what is you ntfs device? /dev/something?
[12:02] <gold> I had to reinstall kubuntu then I upgraded to kde 3.5. After I upgrated to kde 3.5 system:/media only shows my cdrom drive. Privously both my hard drive partitions were included in my system:/media (the screen you get from clicking on Media from the System Menu in the dock) Do you know how to add the partitiions back into system:/media? both partitions are mounted.