[12:03] <Burgundavia> robotgeek, do a google search for each url. If you find nothing, then you can move and not redirect
[12:03] <LaserJock> mgalvin: for some reason the encoding or something didn't work, because I would get syntax errors when I tried to load it
[12:03] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: ahh, nice trick
[12:04] <Burgundavia> robotgeek, likely a lot of them are linked from the forums
[12:04] <LaserJock> mgalvin: then found the replacing the quotes with quotes that I typed worked
[12:04] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: very possible. 
[12:04] <mgalvin> LaserJock: for the .vmx config you mean right?
[12:04] <LaserJock> mgalvin: right
[12:04] <robotgeek> HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards 
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[12:05] <mgalvin> ok, i'm am gonna try it out shortly too, thanks for the pointer :)
[12:05] <robotgeek> on this one, a alpgabetical table should make it much easier. like on the ndiswrapper wiki
[12:05] <LaserJock> mgalvin: I tried just copy-n-paste into nano. Maybe gedit would work better
[12:05] <mgalvin> LaserJock: true
[12:05] <LaserJock> mgalvin: anyway, thanks for the info. I have quite a few .isos sitting around that I've never done anything with
[12:06] <LaserJock> mgalvin: a wiki page would cool ;-)
[12:06] <mgalvin> LaserJock: sure, glad to help
[12:06] <robotgeek> mgalvin: yes, request a wiki page :)
[12:06] <robotgeek> mgalvin: i would like to do a qemu install too
[12:06] <mgalvin> i'll try and whip one together shortly
[12:06] <robotgeek> mgalvin: w.u.c/TakingScreenshots might help
[12:07] <mgalvin> robotgeek: the method I came up with is currently described on my blog here: http://www.simplifiedcomplexity.com/
[12:07] <robotgeek> mgalvin: wordpress 2.0?
[12:07] <Burgundavia> mgalvin, would you mind updating TakingScreenshots with your new methods?
[12:08] <mgalvin> robotgeek: yup
[12:08] <mgalvin> Burgundavia: sure, i'll try and squeeze that in soon as well
[12:08] <Burgundavia> mgalvin, excellent
[12:08] <mgalvin> np
[12:09] <robotgeek> mgalvin: i'm using that for my blog too, pretty sweet. been using it since a year, have had absolutely no issues with it. i just luv wordpress
[12:09] <mgalvin> me too :)
[12:11] <mgalvin> i want to make my own theme too, but alas, there are not enough hours in a day :-/
[12:12] <robotgeek> mgalvin: get some theme, then modify over time
[12:14] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: okay, i think i got the hang of this. i'll do it tommorow or so, just wanted to confirm before making a major change. 
[12:14] <Burgundavia> robotgeek, sounds good
[12:14] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: what about Alphabetical listing, is that fine too?
[12:15] <Burgundavia> robotgeek, for what?
[12:16] <robotgeek> HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards similiar to http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[12:26] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: ? 
[12:28] <Burgundavia> robotgeek, sounds good. Trust your own judgement
[12:29] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: cool, if anything is wrong, we can always revert back :)
[12:29] <Burgundavia> yep
[12:30] <robotgeek> alrite, looks like i've got my work cut out. i'll sleep and start hacking away after i wake up
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[03:31] <robotgeek> hey Kyral 
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[03:37] <robotgeek> okay, some one please tell me if this is fine. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessNetworking
[03:38] <robotgeek> If someone has some suggestions to offer, please offer them now :)
[03:39] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: ping :)
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[03:44] <robotgeek> mgalvin: do you have any suggestions a better name for this page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WirelessNetworking or any ideas
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[03:45] <robotgeek> ty
[03:49] <mgalvin> robotgeek: seems ok, maybe something like WirelessNetworkingDocumentation and structure it more like UserDocumentation since it seems to have a similar content collection
[03:49] <mgalvin> but there is nothing wrong with leaving it the way it is
[03:51] <robotgeek> mgalvin: i don't have an issue changing the name right now, but i don't want to end up doing it later. However, WIrelessNet..Documentation is pretty long to type
[03:52] <robotgeek> maybe even WifiDocs would be fine
[03:53] <robotgeek> I think i'll go ahead with WifiDocs, uses common terminology, and is short
[04:00] <mgalvin> robotgeek: yea i don't like long name either, WifiDocs sounds good to me, go for it
[04:01] <robotgeek> cool, on it
[04:02] <robotgeek> you are going to see a lot of my name in recent changes :)
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[04:48] <robotgeek> mgalvin: need some help
[04:49] <mgalvin> robotgeek: whats up?
[04:50] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo is not redirecting correctly to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500
[04:53] <robotgeek> i am not able to figure out redirects to a subpage
[04:53] <mgalvin> hmm, looking...
[04:53] <robotgeek> so, i gave the direct url, but that's getting malformed
[04:58] <mgalvin> well, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/https:/Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo?action=show doesn't sem to exists anymore :-/
[04:58] <robotgeek> yeah, but the /https: is a bug
[04:58] <mgalvin> right i see that
[04:59] <mgalvin> umm
[04:59] <robotgeek> it works
[04:59] <robotgeek> #REDIRECT != #redirect , sigh
[04:59] <robotgeek> mhz: i shud have asked you in here :)
[05:00] <mhz> hehehe
[05:00] <mhz> sorry
[05:00] <mhz> I am at 3 channels answering stuff
[05:00] <mhz> :D
[05:00] <robotgeek> mhz: no problem
[05:00] <mgalvin> i think i got it
[05:01] <mhz> robotgeek: what is the question?
[05:01] <mhz> oohhhh
[05:01] <mhz> yes
[05:01] <mhz> lowercase
[05:01] <robotgeek> i had #REDIRECT instead of #redirect, and that was causing problems redirecting
[05:01] <mhz> #redirect
[05:01] <mhz> yup
[05:02] <robotgeek> well, i know now :)
[05:02] <mhz> robotgeek: maybe this URL is your favourite
[05:02] <mhz> SyntaxRefernce
[05:02] <mhz> SyntaxReference
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[05:04] <mgalvin> robotgeek: it should work now
[05:06] <robotgeek> yeah, it works 
[05:06] <robotgeek> about 6 more to move, yay
[06:08] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs done!
[06:15] <robotgeek> Burgundavia: ping
[06:15] <robotgeek> mdke: ping
[06:18] <robotgeek> manicka: ping
[06:18] <manicka> rg!
[06:19] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs
[06:19] <robotgeek> take a look
[06:20] <manicka> nice :)
[06:21] <robotgeek> next to merge a few howto's in the first section, like ndiswrapper
[06:21] <robotgeek> and the documentation will be very easy to find. 
[06:22] <manicka> good :)
[06:22] <Kyral> hmm
[06:22] <robotgeek> hey Kyral , long time
[06:22] <Kyral> I need a new Wow! Screenshot
[06:22] <manicka> it's a really important area that lots of people look for help with
[06:22] <Kyral> how about a screenie of me running PC BSD, VLOS, and SuSE in VMs?
[06:23] <robotgeek> shoot it up :)
[06:23] <Kyral> I need the PCBSD and VLOS first ;P
[06:23] <robotgeek> are we allowed to use other colors in the ubuntu wiki? other than brown i mean
[06:23] <Kyral> you can set the theme to Kubuntu
[06:24] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[06:24] <robotgeek> no, i mean for the values. 
[06:24] <robotgeek> or tables rather, green for working, red for not working, etc
[06:24] <manicka> bbl
[06:25] <robotgeek> later manicka 
[06:28] <Kyral> Even better
[06:28] <Kyral> Gentoo in VM ;P
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[07:05] <MadXChat> robotgeek, nice work on the wireless pages on the wiki - lots better organized now!
[07:06] <robotgeek> MadXChat: thank you
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[07:06] <robotgeek> ah, MadXChat i was wondering why i havent seen you for a while
[07:06] <robotgeek> i've been hacking away at CategoryCleanup
[07:07] <MadXChat> yeah, I'm housesitting for my grandparents
[07:07] <robotgeek> hmm, okay
[07:07] <MadXChat> forced to run either Win98 or Ubuntu LiveCD... bleh
[07:08] <MadXChat> cool, we're down to ~350 entries in Cleanup, it was over 380 a few weeks ago!
[07:08] <robotgeek> MadXChat: you should probably use the Live Cd with persistence
[07:09] <MadXChat> saving settings to a partition or something? I didn't think the LiveCD did that, actually
[07:09] <robotgeek> !persistence
[07:09] <robotgeek> damn, ubotu aint here
[07:09] <MadXChat> no bot here
[07:10] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveCDPersistence
[07:11] <robotgeek> MadXChat: what do you think about different colors on the wireless page
[07:12] <MadXChat> different colours how?
[07:12] <robotgeek> MadXChat: green for working, red for not
[07:13] <MadXChat> there's a Hardware page for wireless stuff too, isn't there? cards & USB dongles?
[07:14] <robotgeek> yeah, that's the page i want add colors on
[07:14] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[07:14] <MadXChat> nevermind, found it
[07:15] <MadXChat> it's already got Working?/Yes/No - colour that?
[07:15] <robotgeek> yeah
[07:16] <MadXChat> none of the other HardwareSupport<etc> pages use colours so far
[07:16] <MadXChat> I like the idea, though
[07:16] <MadXChat> what's the wiki markup for coloured text? (I've forgotten...)
[07:17] <robotgeek> i'll have to steal it from the table :)
[07:17] <MadXChat> heh
[07:17] <robotgeek>  ||<#FF8080> red ||<#80FF80> green ||<#8080FF> blue ||
[07:18] <MadXChat> I still get confused by wiki markup, I know HTML/CSS markup quite well and wiki markup is close, but not **quite** the same...
[07:18] <robotgeek> since i do all my editing in vim, i get syntax highlighting which helps quite a bit
[07:19] <robotgeek> i always keep the SyntaxReference page handy
[07:20] <MadXChat> I'm out of practice right now too...
[07:20] <MadXChat> Get my Ubuntu Membership, then celebrate by doing nothing for the distro for the rest of the month! ;)
[07:21] <robotgeek> lol
[07:22] <MadXChat> I'm housesitting for three weeks for my grandparents, as I said, and even with the LiveCD, it's hard being away from my own machine & setup...
[07:22] <robotgeek> my next to do is to put the cards in there in an alphabetical index
[07:22] <robotgeek> in your absense, i've been bugging Burgundavia 
[07:23] <MadXChat> good, he needs bugging!
[07:28] <robotgeek> okay, to add one more section to GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and then remove it from Cleanup
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[07:31] <MadXChat> robotgeek, there's a fairly good GPG key section in the wiki already - can you tie the two together?
[07:34] <MadXChat> never mind, I see you're ahead of me! already done - cool
[07:36] <robotgeek> it's fairly complete now, i think
[07:39] <MadXChat> looks good
[07:46] <robotgeek> i've got 5 in 5 days 
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[07:53] <robotgeek> MadXChat: i'm deleting redundant articles from CategoryCleanup, this is okay?
[07:54] <MadXChat> deleting the entries in Cleanup, or the entire article?
[07:55] <robotgeek> the entire articles
[07:55] <robotgeek> like emacs has one line apt-get install emacs
[07:56] <robotgeek> FreenxHowto had very less information, and it was present in FreeNX anyways
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[08:11] <robotgeek> wb MadXChat2 
[08:12] <MadXChat2> interesting - actually managed to lock up the LiveCD on this machine...
[08:12] <robotgeek> so, what is the deletion policy for "redundant wiki pages"
[08:12] <MadXChat2> is the redundant page linked to from anywhere else in the wiki?
[08:12] <robotgeek> nope
[08:13] <robotgeek> even the redundant page claimed it was redundant :)
[08:13] <MadXChat2> does google show any links to it?
[08:14] <MadXChat2> if "no", then it can probably just be put out of it's misery...
[08:15] <robotgeek> MadXChat2: maybe there is a categoryDeletionCandidates
[08:16] <MadXChat2> not AFAIK - you could always create it
[08:16] <MadXChat2> or just kill the offending page
[08:17] <robotgeek> heh, easier :)
[08:23] <robotgeek> MadXChat2: later, going to bed now
[08:23] <MadXChat2> later - nice work on the wiki tonight
[08:24] <robotgeek> i'm planning to do a lot more :)
[08:24] <robotgeek> maybe even the kubuntu docs
[08:25] <robotgeek> i read that they need help, i'm able and willing :)
[08:25] <MadXChat2> eww. KDE! ;)
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[08:26] <robotgeek> i'm using xubuntu now however, but by the time dapper comes out , i think i'll be using kde
[08:27] <robotgeek> night all
[08:27] <MadXChat2> hi robitaille 
[08:28] <robitaille> Hi MadXChat2 
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[08:29] <MadXChat2> housesitting for my grandparents still
[08:29] <MadXChat2> robitaille, you going to make the VLUG thing tomorrow?
[08:30] <robitaille> MadXChat2,  can't. Saturday are busy for me;  every single kids activities seems to be on Saturdays...
[08:30] <robitaille> humm... I can kill my X server trying to play a movie in Totem in Dapper.  That's no good.
[08:30] <MadXChat2> of course - everyone knows parents never have things on Saturday :)
[08:31] <MadXChat2> Burgundavia mentioned some trouble with X in Dapper too...
[08:33] <robitaille> Dapper has been interesting in the last 48 hours.  Until earlier tonight, at every login, I was getting 54 error messages from gnome-volume-manager
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[09:04] <dsas> When writing a wiki page in which the user will need to edit a file they don't have privileges how should I do this?
[09:05] <dsas> {{{sudo $EDITOR /etc/modules/}}} and then tell them the text (two words!) to add underneath?
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[12:19] <mpt__> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[12:19] <mpt__> What's up with that?
[12:25] <mdke> mpt__, that is the new (or one of the new) versions of ubuntuguide.org
[12:25] <mdke> seems the owner of ubuntuguide.org will point that domain at that guide
[12:29] <mpt__> Things fall apart, the center cannot hold
[12:30] <mpt__> ah well
[12:30] <mdke> that's life eh
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[12:54] <mdke> mpt__, any progress on AboutUbuntu?
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