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| michael__ | hey mhz | 12:48 |
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| mhz | re | 12:50 |
| michael__ | re? | 12:51 |
| mhz | hey | 12:52 |
| michael__ | :-p | 12:52 |
| michael__ | jsut found out how ot amke abrowser using libmozilla | 12:52 |
| mhz | it is used to say "I know I said hi before so now I want to state I am back" | 12:52 |
| michael__ | make* | 12:52 |
| michael__ | o ok | 12:53 |
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| === mhz will be back in 20 or 30 mins | ||
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| konfuzed | any moodle users here | 03:25 |
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| Yagisan | mhz, did you ever watch any iron chef ? | 05:14 |
| mhz | Yagisan: hi there | 05:15 |
| mhz | just the begining of the one I downloaded | 05:15 |
| === mhz has had no time to watch any video longer than 3 minutes ;) | ||
| mhz | I got to the presentation parts | 05:16 |
| Yagisan | mhz: which episode was it ? | 05:17 |
| mhz | Yagisan: would you check the iptables setting I am using? | 05:17 |
| Yagisan | mhz: sure | 05:17 |
| mhz | Yagisan: hmmmm, not remember at this particular moment | 05:17 |
| mhz | accept DCC? | 05:18 |
| Yagisan | mhz: yes | 05:18 |
| mhz | knocking on your door | 05:19 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: well, I clicked ok - and am waiting for the transfer to begin | 05:21 |
| Yagisan | mhz: perhaps email ? | 05:21 |
| mhz | okis | 05:22 |
| mhz | Yagisan: is it down? http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi | 05:23 |
| Yagisan | mhz: no | 05:24 |
| Yagisan | mhz: but my upstream pipe has been getting hammered for 3 days now =-O | 05:25 |
| mhz | Yagisan: a happy email is at your door | 05:26 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: want an easier solution ? | 05:37 |
| mhz | heheheh sure | 05:39 |
| Yagisan | mhz: arno's iptables firewall | 05:39 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I'll find you a link | 05:39 |
| mhz | oki | 05:40 |
| mhz | but is the file ok? | 05:40 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I run in on my box - customised a bit | 05:40 |
| mhz | but is the file I sent ok? | 05:40 |
| Yagisan | mhz: seems ok | 05:41 |
| Yagisan | mhz: http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/iptables-firewall/arno-iptables-firewall-1.8.5-rc4.tgz | 05:45 |
| Yagisan | mhz: there is a .deb here http://rocky.eld.leidenuniv.nl/iptables-firewall/arno-iptables-firewall_1.8.4d-1_all.deb | 05:45 |
| Yagisan | but I've never used it | 05:45 |
| Yagisan | actually - didn't know it existed until now | 05:46 |
| mhz | :) | 05:46 |
| mhz | okis, thx | 05:46 |
| mhz | I'll take a look | 05:46 |
| Yagisan | mhz: has an easy to adjust config file and works well | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | mhz: no gui though, so prepare for the cli | 05:47 |
| Yagisan | :) | 05:47 |
| mhz | lol | 05:48 |
| Yagisan | bye all - be back later | 05:58 |
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| Travis_ | has anyone considered making a server version of edubuntu? with like ldap, a student information system, samba domain controller etc.? for schools to use on their server? | 06:02 |
| Travis_ | with really easy setup | 06:02 |
| mhz | yes, Travis_ | 06:02 |
| Travis_ | similar to novell stuff | 06:02 |
| mhz | it's been discussed | 06:02 |
| mhz | sometimes | 06:02 |
| Travis_ | is there any work in progress? | 06:02 |
| mhz | not that I know of, but I do know it is in part a goal of SchoolTool | 06:03 |
| Travis_ | I am considering network administration as a career and I hate how much it costs to deploy a network using novell etc. | 06:03 |
| mhz | me too | 06:03 |
| Travis_ | I tried setting up my own server with ldap | 06:03 |
| Travis_ | worked decent but I need to find a free student information system that would integreat well with LDAP | 06:03 |
| Travis_ | I have tons of ideas just no way to pursue them | 06:04 |
| Travis_ | schooltool looks kind of lacking | 06:05 |
| mhz | actually, I had a 'customer' who payed me to show him and demo diff Linux based alternatives to his current IT solutions. In the end, his boss refused to migrate because they only were saving U$55,000 a year. That was not big deal because they made that much in 2 days | 06:05 |
| Travis_ | its just like a schedule | 06:05 |
| mhz | so no need to worry endusers | 06:05 |
| Travis_ | yeah businesses that make tons of money I can understand paying | 06:06 |
| mhz | Travis_: SchoolTool has objectives for enrollement, students info, etc | 06:06 |
| mhz | however, e-groupware may be goodfor you | 06:06 |
| Travis_ | but schools, I think the money should be used on hardware | 06:06 |
| mhz | yup | 06:06 |
| Travis_ | does egroupware intergreat with samba? | 06:07 |
| Travis_ | err | 06:07 |
| Travis_ | ldap | 06:07 |
| mhz | yup | 06:07 |
| mhz | well, so does Evolution :) | 06:07 |
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| mhz | very cool | 06:08 |
| mhz | all web | 06:08 |
| Travis_ | by integrate I mean like create ldap users? | 06:08 |
| mhz | iirc, yes | 06:08 |
| Travis_ | iirc? | 06:08 |
| Travis_ | I'll try it out | 06:10 |
| mhz | if i remember correctly :) | 06:11 |
| mhz | sorry | 06:11 |
| Travis_ | what is iirc? | 06:12 |
| mhz | if i remember correctly :) | 06:12 |
| mhz | Travis_: did you understand it? | 06:12 |
| Travis_ | oh | 06:13 |
| Travis_ | lol | 06:13 |
| Travis_ | I feel dumb now | 06:13 |
| Travis_ | I'll try school tool first | 06:13 |
| mhz | Travis_: SchoolTool is 'default' in Edubuntu | 06:14 |
| Travis_ | sadly I don't have edubuntu | 06:14 |
| mhz | it is not 'mature' but it does have lot of potential | 06:14 |
| Travis_ | isn't edubuntu a desktop OS? | 06:14 |
| Travis_ | not server? | 06:14 |
| konfuzed | whats school tool | 06:14 |
| konfuzed | for | 06:14 |
| Travis_ | looks like a student information grade booking schedule deal | 06:15 |
| Travis_ | which is exactly what I am looking for | 06:15 |
| mhz | Edubuntu = 100% Ubuntu + special LTSP + edu-apps + some wallpapers | 06:15 |
| Travis_ | wanna see if it integrates with ldap or anything | 06:15 |
| Travis_ | honestly I have never liked linux for school desktop OS | 06:15 |
| mhz | Travis_: see? I told you :D | 06:15 |
| konfuzed | i also just read above a bit which says some about school tools | 06:16 |
| Travis_ | http://www.schooltool.org | 06:16 |
| konfuzed | have you compared moodle ? | 06:16 |
| mhz | konfuzed: SchoolTool is a project, aimed to help on student information grade booking schedule, etc | 06:16 |
| Travis_ | it needs to add a lunch service | 06:16 |
| mhz | konfuzed: Moodle, Claroline and dotLRN are very good LMS | 06:17 |
| Travis_ | I just wonder if it creates and ldap account or how it manges that stuff | 06:17 |
| mhz | Travis_: you can ask in #schooltool | 06:17 |
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| Travis_ | oh | 06:17 |
| konfuzed | hmm interesting | 06:17 |
| konfuzed | is schooltool using or based on egroupware? | 06:18 |
| mhz | konfuzed: sooner or later, SchoolTool will integrate with an LMS | 06:18 |
| konfuzed | hm | 06:18 |
| mhz | but for now, they have to continue with their roadmap ans see more about Moodle 1.6 | 06:18 |
| mhz | konfuzed: nope | 06:18 |
| konfuzed | I setup moodle as a live performance venue and like it very much so would recommend it to real schools aswell | 06:18 |
| mhz | konfuzed: SL is made on Python and Zope | 06:19 |
| mhz | and uses ZODB | 06:19 |
| mhz | konfuzed: all the 3 LMS I mentioned are very very good. Each has its way into specifics | 06:19 |
| konfuzed | then around the same tim edecided to put ubuntu on systems if somebody gets one from me | 06:19 |
| mhz | but they all work very well | 06:20 |
| konfuzed | then discovered edubuntu and then last month I see moodle is a project on the edubuntu site | 06:20 |
| konfuzed | so it all wraps together rather nicely that way | 06:21 |
| mhz | yup | 06:22 |
| mhz | the idea is we endup with a lot to offer to Education and learning | 06:22 |
| mhz | EdubuntuStudyContent is just one of those many ideas | 06:22 |
| konfuzed | hm havenet seen that ESC yet | 06:23 |
| mhz | it's a page in the wiki | 06:23 |
| mhz | we have done nothing about it | 06:23 |
| mhz | yet | 06:23 |
| mhz | because I have not had time to write about it and encourage people to join efforts for it | 06:24 |
| Travis_ | what does moodle do? | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | never tried it | 06:25 |
| mhz | it is a LMS | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | Learning ________ System? | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | or something? | 06:25 |
| mhz | Managing | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | oh due | 06:25 |
| mhz | Management | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | duh* | 06:25 |
| Travis_ | like CMS | 06:25 |
| mhz | yup | 06:26 |
| mhz | or DMS | 06:26 |
| konfuzed | it does room bookings and student registration and paymnet with ecom | 06:26 |
| mhz | (i made last one out!) | 06:26 |
| mhz | :D | 06:26 |
| mhz | among other things | 06:26 |
| konfuzed | and has a grading system of some sort I suppose that is govt approved in many places called SCORM | 06:27 |
| mhz | well guys, time to hit the envelope (02:27 am) | 06:27 |
| mhz | and it has a wiki | 06:27 |
| mhz | among other things | 06:27 |
| konfuzed | sorry vibrate toll 3:33 over here | 06:27 |
| mhz | heheh | 06:27 |
| mhz | bye all | 06:27 |
| konfuzed | hey travis check out my first moodle site http://OpenNetRadio.com | 06:31 |
| Travis_ | k | 06:31 |
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| Travis_ | back so soon? | 06:51 |
| mhz | i forgot one thing :) | 06:52 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: ping | 04:23 |
| mhz | Yagisan: wow! | 04:23 |
| Yagisan | mhz: yes I'm still up | 04:24 |
| Yagisan | mhz: how did the firewall turn out ? | 04:24 |
| mhz | Yagisan: eventhoug I give you that the script you suggested is aimed to make life easier, I still prefer to learn what to do by hand, and once I have a decent knowledge, then use the script :0) | 04:25 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I like to do things by hand too - but it is a good script. I've sent patches in for it in the past, part of why I suggested it to you. | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | mhz: do you run breezy ? | 04:26 |
| Yagisan | mhz: if so, I have a little favour to ask you | 04:27 |
| mhz | yup | 04:27 |
| mhz | shoot | 04:27 |
| Yagisan | mhz: are you familiar with my games repo ? | 04:27 |
| spacey | good afternoon | 04:28 |
| Yagisan | G'day spacey | 04:28 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I take your silence as a no | 04:28 |
| mhz | spacey: hi | 04:28 |
| mhz | Yagisan: hehe, nope. | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | mhz: I need some volunteers to test if I set my dedicated server up correctly | 04:29 |
| Yagisan | mhz: http://eyagi.bpa.nu/eyagi/community-projects/yagisan-s-doomsday-for-debian-ubuntu/ | 04:29 |
| === mhz tabbing | ||
| Yagisan | mhz: I'm hoping that some ubuntu using volunteers could perhaps try joining my server | 04:30 |
| Yagisan | mhz: and tell me if I screwed it up or not | 04:30 |
| === mhz reading eyagi's trying to figure out how to help | ||
| Yagisan | mhz: in a nutshell. install game. connect. try to shoot. If you can shoot :) if not :( | 04:35 |
| mhz | hehhe | 04:36 |
| mhz | ah, very simple | 04:36 |
| mhz | so I just install the thing adding repos to my sourcelist | 04:36 |
| mhz | and then try to play | 04:36 |
| mhz | that's it? | 04:37 |
| Yagisan | mhz: basically - yes | 04:37 |
| mhz | cool | 04:37 |
| === mhz has never payed game in the box | ||
| mhz | played | 04:37 |
| mhz | just have patience because this is VERY new to me now | 04:38 |
| === mhz getting a coffe and then install | ||
| Yagisan | mhz: no worries | 04:38 |
| Yagisan | mhz: ubuntu has many nice games, this one can't go in yet because of license problems, but that is getting fixed, so maybe dapper + 1 | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | mhz: but it's my baby | 04:39 |
| Yagisan | mhz: my only relaxation that works on a p2 233 | 04:40 |
| mhz | wow! maybe it will work here too | 04:40 |
| mhz | Yagisan: you said that maybe rsync would keep the whole system synced | 04:40 |
| mhz | (providing I dont copy /proc) | 04:40 |
| Yagisan | mhz: possibly - I still don't remember the name of the two way rsync application :( | 04:43 |
| mhz | no problem | 04:44 |
| mhz | I have a good book that expalins many usage for rsync | 04:44 |
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| Yagisan | mhz: http://www.cis.upenn.edu/~bcpierce/unison/ | 04:45 |
| misiek | hi evryone, i would like to know the difference between ubuntu and edubuntu | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | mhz: that was the program I was trying to remember | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | misiek: edubuntu is ubuntu + ltsp + education utilities + nicer artwork | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | ;) | 04:46 |
| Yagisan | mhz: unison is in universe | 04:47 |
| misiek | thanks | 04:48 |
| Yagisan | misiek: you can change ubuntu to edubuntu by installing the edubuntu-desktop package | 04:48 |
| misiek | so basically edubuntu is slightly more then ubuntu but you can make ubuntu into edubuntu right? | 04:49 |
| Yagisan | misiek: yes | 04:50 |
| Yagisan | misiek: it is ubuntu + extras for education | 04:50 |
| Yagisan | misiek: like kubuntu is ubuntu + kde (slightly simplified, but you should get the point) | 04:51 |
| misiek | do you know about whether kubuntu is just ubuntu with kde? | 04:51 |
| Yagisan | misiek: look up ^^ :) | 04:52 |
| misiek | i know its a edubuntu channel, but i figured you would be informed.... | 04:56 |
| Yagisan | misiek: I said it was basically ubuntu + kde | 04:57 |
| Yagisan | misiek: uses the kde version of the ubuntu applications | 04:57 |
| Yagisan | misiek: you must have looked too far up ;) | 04:57 |
| misiek | oh sorry i missed that in the mist of textual information =) | 04:58 |
| misiek | yeah | 04:58 |
| Yagisan | misiek: myself - I use a mix of apps from ubuntu, kubuntu and edubuntu | 04:59 |
| misiek | which apps would you suggest? | 04:59 |
| Yagisan | misiek: k3b is a good cd burning app, evolution is nice for email | 05:00 |
| Yagisan | misiek: both firefox and konquereor are good www browsers | 05:00 |
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| misiek | maybe you could help me with a webcam problem - it freezes the system when testing in media selector | 05:36 |
| Yagisan | misiek: I can't sorry. two reasons. 1) I don't have a webcam, and 2) it's 3:40am I should be in bed or my wife will divorce me | 05:37 |
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| Yagisan | night all | 05:38 |
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| michael__ | ye Guyz | 06:36 |
| michael__ | guys | 06:36 |
| michael__ | hey | 06:36 |
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| arkan0x | mhz, ! | 08:57 |
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| lucasvo | juhu, I got the ubuntu.ch domain!!!! | 09:18 |
| lucasvo | juliux: ping! | 09:18 |
| juliux | lucasvo, pong | 09:18 |
| juliux | lucasvo, great | 09:18 |
| lucasvo | juliux: now, I would like to make an loco ch | 09:18 |
| juliux | lucasvo, hehe | 09:18 |
| lucasvo | get the domain ubuntuusers.ch | 09:19 |
| lucasvo | juliux: where do you host ubuntuusers.de? | 09:19 |
| juliux | lucasvo, on own servers in france | 09:19 |
| lucasvo | ok | 09:19 |
| juliux | lucasvo, but you can ask smurf to get some webspace, if there is a locoteam ch | 09:20 |
| juliux | lucasvo, smurf is the leader of the locoteams | 09:20 |
| lucasvo | ok | 09:20 |
| mpt | Don't be a eunuch, be an ubuntuch! | 09:23 |
| owner | lol mpt | 09:35 |
| owner | Linux 2.6.14-archck7 [i686/3.00GHz/SMP] | 09:36 |
| lucasvo | juliux: is there a way, how to send an email to all ubuntuusers.de user which live in CH? | 09:46 |
| juliux | lucasvo, hm i dont think that this is possible | 09:51 |
| juliux | lucasvo, open a thread | 09:51 |
| owner | ive never used edubuntu | 09:51 |
| owner | whats it like | 09:51 |
| owner | compared to regular ubuntu | 09:51 |
| lucasvo | owner: it has installed education apps and supports LTSP | 09:53 |
| owner | do any of you use it in schools | 09:54 |
| owner | or etc | 09:54 |
| lucasvo | not me | 09:54 |
| lucasvo | I use it at home | 09:54 |
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