[12:02] <bobesponja> cplusplus: anyway, just "mount -t ntfs -o rw /dev/hdax /mnt/ntfs"
[12:03] <bobesponja> dan_: what's up?
[12:04] <dan_> bobesponja: my sound still doest work
[12:04] <dan_> bobesponja: why the************************** is this happening to me?
[12:05] <dan_> bobesponaj: im sleepy! ill go sleep! see u later
[12:05] <Slaphappy> hi... i have installed kbfx for kde and i changed kicker background but my taskbar buttons are the same gray color.. how can i can this to transparent?
[12:06] <Slaphappy> like he did here http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=28319
[12:06] <Slaphappy> first picture on that page
[12:07] <drunkpikachu> had anyone here installed ubuntu on a laptop which has a hardware on/off button for the wireless card?
[12:07] <Steven_M> Does anyone know how to solve my system:/media problem?
[12:07] <bobesponja> I think dan_ went crying
[12:08] <halibut> I am having really big problems installing kubuntu, I get a message "there was a problem installing the selected software......."
[12:09] <halibut> "one or more packages failed to install"
[12:09] <halibut> Then my install seems to be really corrupt
[12:10] <halibut> md5sum on iso was fine, I have burnt 3 times now and all installs have failed, but seems to have different consequences each time
[12:10] <halibut> Once I got a bootable system but it crashed when I tried to do anything...
[12:13] <hyphenated> I found the answer to my DVD loading kaffeine thing with google. had to edit /etc/ivman/IvmConfigActions.xml by hand to stop it loading
[12:15] <Steven_M> someone please help me.
[12:16] <apachelogger> Steven_M: what is the problem?
[12:17] <Steven_M> apachelogger: I had to reinstall kubuntu then I upgraded to kde 3.5. After I upgrated to kde 3.5 system:/media only shows my cdrom drive. Privously both my hard drive partitions were included in my system:/media (the screen you get from clicking on Media from the System Menu in the dock) Do you know how to add the partitiions back into system:/media? both partitions are mounted.
[12:17] <apachelogger> Steven_M: downgrade to 3.4
[12:18] <apachelogger> that's a bug in the 3.5 package, the hdd's are only shown when accessing as root
[12:18] <neoncode> apachelogger: When Is that getting fixed?
[12:18] <apachelogger> no idea
[12:19] <tictric_> neoncode: I read it's supposed to be in cvs by now
[12:19] <halibut> any ideas why I cant install?
[12:19] <Steven_M> apachelogger: but I've had it working fine in 3.5 before.
[12:19] <apachelogger> really?
[12:19] <bobesponja> Steven_M: I asked Riddel cause I have the same problem
[12:19] <apachelogger> kinda impossible
[12:20] <apachelogger> I know no one with a workign system slave
[12:20] <bobesponja> Steven_M: <Riddell> bobesponja: it's not possible currently
[12:20] <bobesponja> Steven_M: [19:17]  <Riddell> bobesponja: some combination of KDE and hal's fault
[12:21] <apachelogger> hal, grrr :|
[12:21] <Steven_M> quite anoying
[12:21] <cplusplus> i found somth very interesting: http://www.linuxforum.com/linux_tutorials/1/1.php
[12:22] <apachelogger> anyone using amaroK 1.3.7 and would like to upgrade?
[12:22] <halibut> Is the kubuntu installation all console-like (I dont know how to describe this? I think it means not in X ? )
[12:22] <cplusplus> i sould add this to my fstab: /dev/hda5 /mnt/Daten ntfs users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0         ???
[12:23] <apachelogger> halibut: it is
[12:23] <apachelogger> debianlike
[12:24] <cplusplus> bobesponja?
[12:24] <halibut> apachelogger, do you know what could be causing my problem?
[12:24] <thad> is ubuntuforums.org not working for anyone else?
[12:24] <Steven_M> apachelogger: this might sound stupid but how do I downgrade to kde kde 3.4?
[12:24] <halibut> thad, it didn't work for me
[12:24] <apachelogger> halibut: I dunno the problem ;-)
[12:24] <bobesponja> cplusplus: /dev/hda5  /mnt/Daten ntfs  defaults  0  0
[12:24] <apachelogger> Steven_M: I never downgraded something :|
[12:24] <apachelogger> google might know
[12:25] <thad> ok, just wanted to make sure i hadn't done something to break it. :-)
[12:25] <halibut> apachelogger, up about 60 lines :)
[12:25] <shawkins> halibut: hey, one second on your problem
[12:25] <caos> #exit
[12:25] <halibut> It
[12:25] <halibut> I
[12:25] <cplusplus> and now run mount -a  right?
[12:25] <halibut> oops
[12:26] <halibut> I am using Sata drive and kubuntu 64 CD  shawkins
[12:26] <bobesponja> cplusplus: mount /mnt/Daten
[12:26] <apachelogger> halibut: re-download ;-)
[12:26] <apachelogger> might be the easiest solution
[12:26] <shawkins> halibut: ok.... you mean terminal like... or something... do you have it on another computer where I can give you commands for right now or?
[12:26] <shawkins> apachelogger: may not be...
[12:26] <shawkins> apachelogger: he may get the same problem...
[12:26] <cplusplus> first create a dir?
[12:27] <caos> #leave
[12:27] <halibut> apachelogger, i have downloaded twice, burnt 3 times, checksum on both downloads was fine, and I did the integrety check on the installer menu and it was fine
[12:27] <Steven_M> is there a version kde in between kde 3.4.3 and 3.5?
[12:27] <shawkins> no
[12:27] <apachelogger> halibut: listen to shawkins
[12:27] <shawkins> halibut: is this on another computer? or the one you are on now?
[12:27] <halibut> shawkins, the one I am on, I'm booted in to windows at the moment
[12:28] <shawkins> halibut: crap... ok, well heres some commands, off the top of my head, but they should work fine
[12:28] <shawkins> halibut: when you get to terminal type in 'startx'
[12:28] <shawkins> halibut: it 'should' start up
[12:29] <shawkins> halibut: if that doesn't work, try typing in sudo startx
[12:29] <cplusplus> there is a problem
[12:29] <shawkins> cplusplus: what?
[12:29] <shawkins> halibut: when you do that, if it doesn't start up, I'll need you to tell me what it says
[12:30] <cplusplus> i can see the hda5 at konquaror
[12:30] <cplusplus> dir /mnt/Daten cant be opend.
[12:30] <cplusplus> hm
[12:31] <halibut> shawkins, but it was the installer that failed?
[12:31] <halibut> It just borked, and each time I installed it it borked in a different place...
[12:31] <Steven_M> got to go, see ya
[12:32] <thad> soo..does anyone know how one could edit /etc/sudoers after somehow deleting the only user account from the list of allowed sudoers?
[12:32] <halibut> shawkins, I will try to install from a ubuntu cd and then get the kubuntu package
[12:33] <sampan> thad, i think you might boot into recovery mode (single user-root access) and then sudo visudoers  to edit the file to put your reg user back in
[12:34] <sampan> but never having done it, i'm not exactly talking from experience ;X
[12:34] <sampan> errr, probably don't have to put "sudo" since you'll already be root -- DOH!
[12:34] <thad> sampan: i was hoping there would be something like that. any idea how to do that, though?
[12:35] <m0ns00n> If you don't have the boot option, try knoppix or something to boot with
[12:35] <thad> is it selectable from the kdm?
[12:35] <thad> oh, i do have a knoppix cd! i knew that would come in handy!
[12:35] <sampan> not from kdm, right at the grub menu ... if you don't have that boot option, then m0ns00n is right, use a live cd
[12:36] <thad> will knoppix be easier than recovery mode, do you think?
[12:36] <m0ns00n> Depends on your hardware
[12:36] <m0ns00n> The more graphical the easier it gets in my book :-)
[12:36] <m0ns00n> And then you also get all the features
[12:36] <thad> yeah, i agree.
[12:37] <aseigo> Riddell: pingy?
[12:37] <cplusplus> shawkins maybe chmod will help?
[12:37] <cplusplus> whats only read?
[12:37] <cplusplus> 444?
[12:38] <thad> ok, i'll go try that and come back later to ask more questions. thanks, all.
[12:38] <sampan> good luck
[12:40] <sampan> bah, it's visudo, not visudoers ... hope my mistake doesn't muck him up
[12:43] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: Hello
[12:47] <Riddell> aseigo: hi
[12:48] <aseigo> Riddell: hey dude. did you get my privs from yesterday
[12:48] <Riddell> aseigo: don't think so
[12:48] <aseigo> Riddell: how long would it take to "whip up" a kubuntu live CD with a custom wallpaper?
[12:49] <aseigo> Riddell: i ask because they are having some probs here at LCA and need a live cd to use at some of the terminals
[12:49] <Riddell> aseigo: a few hours of tinkering with the gnome live-cd scripts probably
[12:49] <m0ns00n> :-)
[12:49] <aseigo> Riddell: they will use kubuntu (and thus kde) if we can get one together today
[12:49] <Riddell> aseigo: I'm afraid I'm unable to just now
[12:49] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: Hooray!
[12:49] <aseigo> Riddell: ok. no problem. just thought i'd ask =)
[12:49] <Riddell> aseigo: ask amu to do it
[12:49] <Riddell> he knows how to do it
[12:50] <Riddell> amu@tr.debian.net
[12:51] <satempler> Riddell: thanks of the amarok
[12:51] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: do you have time to answer a few questions?
[12:51] <apachelogger> arr, amaroK :D
[12:51] <satempler> when is the transparincy going to get better
[12:52] <m0ns00n> DaSkreech: sure
[12:52] <satempler> I heard 7 makes it better
[12:52] <satempler> X11R7
[12:52] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: You are the main person to speak to about adept correct?
[12:52] <m0ns00n> 7 is the same features as 6.9, so.... only modular/new codebase
[12:53] <m0ns00n> DaSkreech: No I doubt that
[12:53] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: Oh :(
[12:53] <m0ns00n> :-)
[12:53] <m0ns00n> Sorry
[12:53] <DaSkreech> m0ns00n: can you answer anything about adept?
[12:54] <m0ns00n> sure
[12:54] <m0ns00n> I use it from time to time
[12:54] <satempler> m0ns00n: is dapper goin to have an update notifyer and automatic update
[12:54] <m0ns00n> satempler: How come I'm suddenly an expert =)
[12:54] <DaSkreech> That was one of my questions
[12:54] <satempler> i don't know
[12:54] <m0ns00n> somebody in here being called something like monsoon or?
[12:54] <larsivi> DaSkreech: mornfall over at #kde-devel developed it, if that is what you need
[12:55] <satempler> DaSkreech started it
[12:55] <m0ns00n> haha
[12:55] <sampan> lol
[12:55] <m0ns00n> :-)
[12:55] <satempler> is #kde-devel user friendly
[12:55] <m0ns00n> I can act as if I know it
[12:55] <m0ns00n> :-)
[12:56] <satempler> or is it develoopers only
[12:56] <apachelogger> satempler: doesn't the name tell?
[12:56] <apachelogger> #kde is for users
[12:56] <apachelogger> -devel for development stuff etc.
[12:56] <satempler> right
[12:56] <satempler> got it
[12:57] <satempler> what about the slowness of transparancy and shadows
[12:57] <hatake_kakashi> ok, this might be a nice and easy question, is it possible to get the latest kubuntu released kernel source from the repo?
[12:58] <satempler> why is enlightenment so much better at it
[12:58] <satempler> (shadows that is)
[12:58] <_anton> hey all
[12:58] <satempler> they have evas for shadows
[12:58] <satempler> is kde going to get that
[12:59] <apachelogger> kde is going to get xgl support, that's it
[12:59] <apachelogger> support working x features
[12:59] <_anton> could someone give me some help on kubuntu and root plz ?
[12:59] <apachelogger> and shadow etc. isn't working most time
[12:59] <apachelogger> _anton: what's the problem?
[12:59] <m0ns00n> The shadows are slow because the framework of drawing them is probably crap ;-)
[01:00] <m0ns00n> The shadows are a hack at the moment
[01:00] <_anton> instructions on karoshi website says to run Karoshi Setup from the cd to get root user to work
[01:00] <_anton> but I cant run it
[01:00] <_anton> a black window opens and closes and thats it
[01:01] <_anton> if I drag it to a konsole window and run it I get a permission denied
[01:01] <apachelogger> O.o
[01:01] <_anton> this is straight after installation
[01:01] <hatake_kakashi> anyone?
[01:01] <apachelogger> haven't got
[01:01] <apachelogger> _anton: sudo [file]  ?
[01:01] <apachelogger> what is karoishi
[01:01] <satempler> ha ok
[01:01] <apachelogger> no idea
[01:02] <satempler> kde guys say its an Xorg hack
[01:02] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[01:02] <_anton> yeah its to enable root user on kde
[01:02] <_anton> karoshi is an education linux server system that installs ontop of a linux distro
[01:02] <apachelogger> you probably mean on kubuntu :p
[01:02] <apachelogger> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo?action=show&redirect=EnableRootLogin#head-8352bb412ccfc81b89a48144986e8690c66e338c
[01:02] <_anton> basically a pdu, etc
[01:03] <satempler> every one look at this video if your laptop had tpm you have it http://mirror.inode.at/data/tc/
[01:03] <satempler> the kernel even has it
[01:04] <_mike> For any of you who were helping me many hours ago to set up my Wireless USB Adapter...thank you, it is now fully functioning
[01:04] <_mike> I appreciate the help
[01:05] <Riddell> aseigo: e-mailed
[01:05] <DaSkreech> Night Riddell
[01:05] <_anton> ah, thanks guys, gonna go try that :-)
[01:06] <_anton> as always helpful guys in IRC chan save the day :-) much apriciated
[01:07] <kkathman> _mike thats good to hear...what was the the missing link that got it working?
[01:09] <_mike> I'm not really sure ... I think it was just my general discomfort with Linux ... you have to realize that Ndiswrapper was only the 2nd program I've ever installed
[01:15] <satempler> is there a schedule for updates
[01:15] <satempler> like patch tuseday for windows
[01:16] <aseigo> Riddell: thanks
[01:16] <DaSkreech> satempler: Pretty much no :)
[01:16] <satempler> Dang DaSkreech you every where
[01:16] <satempler> there needs to be
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Sounds like you have a fundamental misunderstanding if how Linux works
[01:16] <DaSkreech> Why?
[01:17] <kkathman> DaSkreech: I read something about a kdelibs security patch supposedly coming today...but I havent seen anything in my Adept...know anything about that?
[01:17] <satempler> well how am I going to know when a patch is relesed
[01:17] <kkathman> satempler: it will be available via Adept
[01:17] <satempler> well kkathman i know that but that not what I am saying
[01:18] <satempler> eather an auto updater is needed or ........
[01:18] <kkathman> satempler: you wanted to know when a patch was available...thats how you know
[01:18] <kkathman> satempler: there is no autoupdater in Ubuntu like, say YOU in SuSE
[01:18] <satempler> come to think of it there is somthing in the repos that dose just that
[01:18] <larsivi> satempler: it's in adept, but the updates are commented out in the sources.list by default
[01:18] <DaSkreech> security updates?
[01:18] <satempler> kkathman: no but there is notification of such updates
[01:18] <satempler> ya
[01:19] <satempler> larsivi: I un commented them
[01:19] <kkathman> satempler: I just get mine via announcement through KDE.org or various feeds, or when I do my Adept update each night
[01:20] <satempler> no there is and apt-get tool to automate this process but i for got the name
[01:20] <larsivi> satempler: My kdelibs were just updated in any case, did you fetch updates?
[01:20] <satempler> cron-apt
[01:21] <kkathman> satempler: I much prefer to manually run Adept and actually SEE whats going to be done
[01:21] <satempler> kkathman: it will tell me
[01:22] <satempler> in email
[01:22] <kkathman> ok
[01:22] <kkathman> kewl
[01:22] <DaSkreech> :-)
[01:22] <satempler> ya
[01:22] <kkathman> if it does it for you  go for  it :)
[01:22] <satempler> isn't it
[01:22] <satempler> i am
[01:22] <satempler> i prefer not to think about it
[01:22] <twan> what is the standard C compiler that comes with ubuntu, and where is it located?
[01:22] <DaSkreech> twan: None
[01:22] <twan> thanks
[01:22] <DaSkreech> twan:  try install build-essentials
[01:23] <larsivi> will give you gcc 4
[01:23] <twan> too few arguments
[01:23] <sampan> sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:23] <twan> NICE
[01:23] <twan> thanks
[01:24] <kkathman> satempler: you might wish to Google cron-apt and read some of the things about it
[01:25] <sampan> am i going to have to restart kde after updating the new libs?
[01:25] <twan> XmL parser is required for intltool?
[01:26] <kkathman> sampan:  I did
[01:26] <satempler> no kdelibs
[01:26] <satempler> but then again I am running KDE 3.5
[01:26] <twan> XML:Parser perl module is required for intltool is the error I'm getting
[01:26] <kkathman> sampan: no kdelibs?
[01:26] <larsivi> satempler: I'm running 3.5 too
[01:26] <kkathman> Im on 3.5 also
[01:26] <sampan> the kdelibs were there for me
[01:26] <kkathman> me too sampan
[01:26] <satempler> not me
[01:26] <sampan> if i'm gonna have to restart kde, i might as well finally upgrade the kernel too i suppose
[01:27] <satempler> i did adept-updater
[01:27] <kkathman> sampan:  you dont necessarily need them unless you are compiling I guess
[01:27] <nalioth> the only time you need to restart linux is when YOU want to
[01:27] <nalioth> i upgraded my kernel when it came out 2 or 3 days ago, and haven't restarted since
[01:27] <DaSkreech> nalioth: or when there is a kernel upgrade
[01:27] <kkathman> satempler: and so it follows if you didnt install them, they would not update :)
[01:28] <DaSkreech> I think
[01:28] <sampan> nalioth does that mean you're still running the old kernel?  but the new one is there, waiting till next restart?
[01:28] <nalioth> sampan: correct.
[01:28] <sampan> k, thanks :)
[01:28] <_anton> ok guys next stupid Q ;-p how do I install a .rpm in kubuntu
[01:28] <kkathman> DaSkreech:  you dont have to reboot aftre a kernel upgrade either :)
[01:28] <kkathman> cours you wont be using th new one :)
[01:28] <DaSkreech> I know but then ... why upgrade
[01:28] <satempler> what the kdelibs
[01:28] <satempler> hell I have the devel libs
[01:28] <kkathman> !kdelibs
[01:29] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, kkathman
[01:29] <kkathman> hmm
[01:29] <kkathman> satempler: they are the core libraries for KDE
[01:29] <sampan> another stupid question ... if i upgrade the kernel, will it overwrite the old one on next boot?  or will i have a choice?  and a 3rd dumb question, do i need to uninstall and reinstall nvidia drivers with a kernel upgrade? or does all that stay unchanged?
[01:29] <satempler> well then I have them
[01:29] <kkathman> satempler:  if you are compiling a source for KDE you'll likely need them
[01:30] <satempler> no I needed to compile kmplayer from source
[01:30] <kkathman> satempler: do this at a konsole  dpkg -l | grep kdelib
[01:30] <kkathman> that will show you which ones are installed
[01:30] <satempler> 3.5.0
[01:30] <satempler> kdelibs4c2
[01:31] <kkathman> then you can do an apt-cache search kdelib and see whats available
[01:31] <DaSkreech> sampan: You have a choice on next boot
[01:31] <_anton> anyone ?
[01:31] <satempler> the same
[01:31] <satempler> but I have had these since last night
[01:32] <satempler> when I installed
[01:32] <sampan> thanks daskreech -- much prefer choice!  :D
[01:32] <satempler> and did my first update
[01:32] <satempler> are thoses the same
[01:32] <moj0rising> Hello! I have a filesystem question....
[01:32] <moj0rising> ...I am putting a laptop together for someone...
[01:33] <satempler> moj0rising: whats the question
[01:33] <moj0rising> ..it is a p2/300...
[01:33] <moj0rising> ..should I use ext2 or 3?
[01:33] <satempler> ext3
[01:33] <kkathman> ext3
[01:33] <moj0rising> which will be faster on this system?
[01:33] <nalioth> moj0rising: ext2
[01:33] <nalioth> woops
[01:33] <nalioth> moj0rising: ext3
[01:33] <moj0rising> haha.
[01:33] <kkathman> its unanimous
[01:33] <satempler> journaling is fast on any system
[01:33] <sampan> lol
[01:33] <satempler> ext3 journaling
[01:33] <kkathman> nalioth loves reiserfs tho
[01:34] <kkathman> hee hee
[01:34] <satempler> you will know this if you ever get fscked
[01:34] <moj0rising> ah, I asked because I thought I read somewhere journaling is slower on ano older system.
[01:34] <satempler> i meen the file system check disk thing not a bad word
[01:34] <moj0rising> I know th fsck will probably be better.
[01:34] <nalioth> kkathman: shut yo' mouth
[01:35] <kkathman> hehe
[01:35] <moj0rising> OK. Cool. I'm gonna go ahead and put ext3 on it.
[01:35] <_lEo_> hey all
[01:35] <moj0rising> You guys rock! thanks.
[01:35] <satempler> ext2 what is it good for any way
[01:35] <_lEo_> anyone knows for how long has ubuntuforums been down today ?
[01:36] <kkathman> actually SUSE installs reiserfs standard...so I tried it...it doesnt seem to be faster or slower than ext3 actually
[01:36] <moj0rising> ah.
[01:36] <satempler> kkathman: reiserfs isn't supported any more
[01:36] <satempler> i heard
[01:36] <_lEo_> knock knock
[01:36] <kkathman> hmm well its default for SUSE 10
[01:37] <kkathman> so I guess what you heard was out of date, or somethin
[01:37] <satempler> kkathman: is't always been default
[01:37] <Xemanth^^> i just actually notice only thing that at least ext3 is recogniced in partition magic
[01:37] <kkathman> I think ext3 is default for ubuntu
[01:37] <moj0rising> yeah. It is.
[01:37] <Xemanth^^> yes it is
[01:37] <satempler> it is
[01:37] <Xemanth^^> =)
[01:37] <kkathman> shrug
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> kkathman: depends on what you want to do with it.. reiser is good with small files because of its file allocation size IIRC
[01:38] <satempler> and most other linux distros
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> reiser uses b*tree fs
[01:38] <kkathman> hatake_kakashi: yah...I guess thats why some of the newer distros are using it
[01:38] <kkathman> its a relatively new fs as I recally
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> well, afaik SuSE is one of the companies that likes reiser
[01:38] <kkathman> hatake_kakashi:  yep
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> new fs? I don't think its that new but then again
[01:39] <satempler> its as new as ext3 and xfs and jfs
[01:39] <Xemanth^^> i don't like suse
[01:39] <satempler> but ext3 is and extension of ext2
[01:39] <Xemanth^^> i tried suse 7 and din't like it, its really bad
[01:39] <hatake_kakashi> with journal
[01:39] <Hitchhiker90> :)
[01:39] <Hitchhiker90> (:
[01:39] <kkathman> ext3 = ext2 + journaling
[01:39] <satempler> xfs is SGIs controbution
[01:39] <moj0rising> I've tried 9.3. It is pretty slick.
[01:39] <hatake_kakashi> kkathman: yup
[01:39] <moj0rising> Kubuntu is better though.
[01:39] <kkathman> 10.0 is pretty cutting edge actually
[01:39] <satempler> jfs is IBMs
[01:39] <moj0rising> apt and speed reasons.
[01:40] <moj0rising> in my opinion.
[01:40] <kkathman> but frankly I havent seen anything in SUSE thats arguably better or worse than kubuntu/ubuntu I guess
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> xfs is nice, I love its balanced b*tree but the last I recall is that it requires a reliable power, or you get messed up fs if it crashes
[01:40] <kkathman> except the package manager I guess
[01:40] <satempler> though resume is faster using a 100mb /boot part using ext2 or 3
[01:40] <Xemanth^^> :D
[01:40] <moj0rising> the gui config tools are pretty slick in suse.
[01:41] <moj0rising> but I don't like to get too comfortable with them.
[01:41] <kkathman> moj0rising:  yeah and the package manager is nice
[01:41] <twan> does ubuntu have the df command installed?
[01:41] <kkathman> but each distro has its own
[01:41] <moj0rising> because I like to have the command line mastered and not forget it.
[01:41] <kkathman> twan yes
[01:41] <larsivi> I didn't much like Yast, it seemed slow
[01:41] <Xemanth^^> apt is the best
[01:41] <moj0rising> twan, you can try which df or man df to find out stuff like that if you want.
[01:42] <moj0rising> larsivi, I agree.
[01:42] <moj0rising> it's very neat, but not as fast as apt.
[01:42] <kkathman> YaST seems slow yes but probably no slower than say, Synaptic
[01:42] <kkathman> if you turn updating off
[01:42] <larsivi> But then i don't used synaptic either :)
[01:42] <satempler> no synaptic is 100x faster than YaST
[01:42] <kkathman> yah I use apt-get
[01:42] <moj0rising> I like adept. It is pretty fast.
[01:43] <kkathman> and rpm
[01:43] <kkathman> lol
[01:43] <satempler> apt-get is 1000x faster than Synaptic
[01:43] <kkathman> easier and faster
[01:43] <moj0rising> It probably depends on the servers more than anything else anyway.
[01:43] <satempler> apt-get has super cow powers
[01:43] <Xemanth^^> yeah
[01:43] <Xemanth^^> aot-get is jesus alike
[01:43] <Xemanth^^> apt*
[01:43] <moj0rising> haha.
[01:43] <satempler> lol
[01:44] <moj0rising> I'm gonna go load up this laptop w/ kubuntu on ext3. Thanks again for your help!
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get is just a front end for dpkg, like synaptic and all is a front end for rpm
[01:44] <Xemanth^^> moj0rising: what laptop ?
[01:44] <satempler> but I like apt-get build-deps
[01:44] <_anton> ok ppl, can anyone tell me if this is right plz
[01:44] <_anton> apt-get install Xdialog-2.1.2-1.i686.rpm
[01:44] <moj0rising> older laptop I'm giving away.
[01:44] <satempler> YaST can't beat that
[01:44] <moj0rising> ibm thinkpad 390
[01:44] <hatake_kakashi> _anton: no
[01:44] <Xemanth^^> moj0rising: aj, i have Acer 5024 :P
[01:44] <_anton> ok, whats not right ?
[01:44] <moj0rising> cool.
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> _anton: apt-get afaik uses deb not rpm
[01:45] <_anton> I only have rpm
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> for that you need rpm to read .rpm files
[01:45] <satempler> apt-get 4 rpm
[01:45] <moj0rising> later.
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> didn't they call those apt-rpm ?
[01:45] <satempler> i guess
[01:46] <DaSkreech> apt4rpm
[01:46] <satempler> ya
[01:46] <satempler> thats it
[01:46] <satempler> though Fedora made it harder to use
[01:47] <satempler> I don't like yum
[01:47] <satempler> yum is slow
[01:47] <nalioth> yum is better than yuch
[01:48] <satempler> yum sucks
[01:48] <aseigo> yum is better in recent releases, but yes, it's crap
[01:48] <satempler> apples
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> yum is a frontend for rpm :p
[01:49] <satempler> now I just wana see Kubuntu on a MacBookPro
[01:49] <DaSkreech> EFI
[01:50] <satempler> DaSkreech: elilo
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Hmm
[01:50] <satempler> DaSkreech: new versions of GRUB support it out of the box
[01:50] <DaSkreech> Yeah I know but nobody ships with it
[01:51] <satempler> using elilo it would be possible to boot Linux and Windows XP though XP would still have problems with hardware
[01:51] <satempler> what about gentoo
[01:52] <satempler> gentoo you could compile support for efi into it
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> why would you want to use lilo.. sheesh :/
[01:52] <hatake_kakashi> as in lilo boot loader :p
[01:53] <satempler> i wouldn't
[01:53] <satempler> i would use grub
[01:53] <hatake_kakashi> and why not?
[01:54] <satempler> because its old
[01:54] <satempler> not shure
[01:54] <satempler> just been so used to grub
[01:56] <cplusplus> is amarok able to play mp3 under kubuntu?
[01:56] <dark_suic> yeah, cplusplus it is
[01:56] <cplusplus> it dont work here;-(
[01:56] <cplusplus> crazy
[01:56] <dark_suic> don't mind
[01:56] <dark_suic> install this packages:
[01:56] <dark_suic> amarok-xine
[01:57] <dark_suic> k3b-mp3 (this is said not to be necessary, but mp3 worked in my amarok just after installing it)
[01:57] <dark_suic> after that
[01:57] <dark_suic> go to amarok config
[01:57] <dark_suic> and choose xine as amarok engine
[01:57] <dark_suic> it should just work then :)
[01:59] <_anton> ok, so am I just better to install redhat and do this through rpm or is there some easy way to do rpm on kubuntu that a novice monkey like me can cope with ;-p ?
[01:59] <satempler> shouldn't have to dark_suic
[01:59] <cplusplus> where is xine?
[01:59] <satempler> i didn't
[01:59] <satempler> cplusplus: did you enable universe and multiverse
[01:59] <Hitchhiker90> oh kubuntu, how do I love thee?  let me count thine ways
[02:00] <hatake_kakashi> _anton: why use rpm when there might be deb packages around?
[02:01] <Hitchhiker90> is artsd broke on kubuntu?  I get an error saying
[02:01] <satempler> _anton: use alien if you want an rpm in a deb package but that could result in a broken system you have been warned
[02:01] <Hitchhiker90> is artsd broke on kubuntu?  I get an error saying "Bad page state at free_hot_cold_page (in process 'artsd', page ffff8100012dfa"
[02:01] <nalioth> _anton: apt-get is way simpler and easier to use than rpm
[02:02] <satempler> _anton: ya i agree with nalioth
[02:02] <Hitchhiker90> thats when i do dmesg.   but it could also be because i compiled alsa from source and not from the kernel
[02:02] <_anton> well, my prob is that I aint really got much of a clue about linux in general, but am trying to test this karoshi program
[02:02] <_anton> and on the cd is the rpm
[02:02] <cplusplus> satempler cplusplus: did you enable universe and multiverse .... cant find it!! hm
[02:02] <_anton> and there is a guide on karoshi site to installing but it dont work
[02:03] <nalioth> _anton: does 'karoshi' have a website?
[02:03] <_anton> so i'm using guess work and logic + a few magic beans ;-p
[02:03] <_anton> yeah they also have an irc room on this server but it's empty
[02:03] <satempler> cplusplus: open a termenal and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:04] <satempler> cplusplus: then uncomment (remove the # sign) all lines begining with deb
[02:04] <_anton> gonna try to find a deb pkg then
[02:04] <nalioth> _anton: did you post the website?
[02:05] <satempler> cplusplus: let me know when done
[02:06] <Hitchhiker90> whats the name of the kde media player?  like totem is for gnome
[02:06] <DaSkreech> amarok?
[02:06] <DaSkreech> No wait
[02:06] <DaSkreech> kaffine
[02:06] <dark_suic> Hitchhiker90, amarok for audio, kaffeine for the rest :P
[02:06] <_anton> ww.karoshi.com is main site
[02:07] <_anton> 1 sec i'll find guide for ya
[02:07] <cplusplus> satempler ok...
[02:07] <satempler> cplusplus: also add multiverse to the 34 th and 35th line
[02:07] <Hitchhiker90> kaffeine, thats the one i'm trying to think of.
[02:07] <_anton> bah sorry it's org.uk not com
[02:07] <Hitchhiker90> amarok don't work on my system :(
[02:07] <satempler> cplusplus: save the file then do sudo apt-get update
[02:08] <satempler> Hitchhiker90: what version are you using
[02:08] <_anton> right, trying to follow http://linuxgfx.co.uk/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=Kubuntu
[02:08] <cplusplus> ok
[02:08] <Hitchhiker90> satempler: kde 3.5 not sure of the version of amarok thats loaded on here
[02:08] <cplusplus> satempler update is nice;-)
[02:08] <cplusplus> finished
[02:08] <_anton> got to "Kubuntu is installed. Now un-like some of the other Linux Distributions you will have to do a little be extra to get Karoshi to work,"
[02:09] <satempler> Hitchhiker90: amarok 1.3.8 is out add the repo
[02:09] <cplusplus> satempler now?
[02:09] <nalioth> _anton: i'd stay away from it. it set off a buncha warnings in my spyware alert
[02:09] <satempler> cplusplus: now open adept and search for amarok
[02:09] <Hitchhiker90> found out why amarok won't work, because I don't have libGL.so.1 loaded
[02:09] <twan> I need to install an XML parser...any suggestions?
[02:09] <cplusplus> satempler in kde?
[02:09] <satempler> ya
[02:10] <satempler> cplusplus: ya in kde
[02:10] <cplusplus> hm its not able to play mp3
[02:10] <cplusplus> hm
[02:10] <satempler> no just look in adept for amarok
[02:10] <twan> XML parser....anyone?
[02:10] <satempler> twan: open adept and search for XML
[02:10] <cplusplus> oh i dont opened adped
[02:11] <satempler> Kmenu --> System -->adept
[02:11] <twan> i did
[02:11] <cplusplus> ok i found it here
[02:11] <cplusplus> amarok-engines now
[02:11] <cplusplus> ?
[02:11] <satempler> ya now click on commit
[02:11] <satempler> the check mark
[02:11] <cplusplus> i will install amarok-xine ok?
[02:12] <satempler> ya
[02:12] <satempler> it will
[02:12] <_anton> apt-get install xdialog_2.0.6-4_i386.deb
[02:12] <_anton> ok so would that be correct ?
[02:12] <cplusplus> engines too ok?
[02:12] <satempler> ya thats fine it gives you all of them but xine will be default
[02:13] <satempler> cplusplus: have you gotten the lates amarok
[02:14] <satempler> it shouldn't matter
[02:14] <_anton> ah think I got it :-)
[02:14] <satempler> never mind
[02:16] <satempler> cplusplus: let me know if it worked
[02:17] <cplusplus> ok
[02:17] <_anton> yay, it's installed
[02:17] <_anton> just one more hoop to jump through now :-)
[02:18] <_anton> w00t, got karoshi installer to work now :-)
[02:18] <cplusplus> action install <--- means its working? at adept manager..
[02:18] <_anton> thanks all, I think this will work now
[02:19] <cplusplus> satempler?
[02:19] <satempler> ya
[02:19] <cplusplus> takes a long time..hm
[02:19] <satempler> oh no you need to click on the commit button
[02:20] <cplusplus> commit changed?
[02:20] <satempler> ya
[02:20] <cplusplus> error
[02:20] <satempler> whats the error
[02:21] <cplusplus> there was an error commiting changed. possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or commit would break packages
[02:21] <satempler> ok
[02:21] <cplusplus> or the commit
[02:21] <cplusplus> whats wrong?
[02:21] <satempler> open a termenal
[02:21] <cplusplus> ok
[02:21] <satempler> do sudo apt-get install amarok-xine
[02:22] <cplusplus> ah fine..
[02:25] <Delvien> kkathman !
[02:25] <kkathman> hi Delvien :)
[02:26] <Delvien> long time no see.. I have rejoined the ranks of gnomers
[02:26] <kkathman> hehe well ok... glad to see you back again Delvien :)
[02:26] <Delvien> ubuntu seems much more interesting at times because there  are more questions to be answered
[02:26] <Delvien> well not in KDE :P
[02:27] <Delvien> Anyone else having problems accessing ubuntu forums?
[02:27] <satempler> its funny because KDE has more diologs
[02:27] <satempler> more options
[02:27] <satempler> haven't tried
[02:27] <Delvien> more options = takes more computing power , and runs my laptop hot
[02:27] <kkathman> Delvien:  I dont access ubuntuforms - no need ...I use the wiki
[02:27] <Delvien> KDE 40-53C, Gnome 30-36C
[02:27] <satempler> appers they are down
[02:28] <kkathman> Delvien: no kiddin??
[02:28] <kkathman> interesting
[02:28] <Delvien> kkathman yep
[02:28] <kkathman> Delvien: of course that doesnt surprise me
[02:28] <satempler> ya well I havn't knoticed
[02:28] <Delvien> kkathman and battery mon , network mon , cpu freq, and temp mon are all better in gnome
[02:28] <kkathman> Delvien: the new gnome coming out in Dapper should run hotter then..much more in it
[02:29] <Delvien> kkathman lets hope not,. im in dapper right now,
[02:29] <satempler> how would I find my temp in a console
[02:29] <kkathman> Delvien:  oh really?? kewl...hope thats working out
[02:29] <Delvien> kkathman got mp3 going, and 3 sessions of FF1.5 and im running at 30C
[02:30] <cplusplus> satempler crazy
[02:30] <satempler> 56C
[02:30] <satempler> wow
[02:30] <Delvien> thats high
[02:30] <cplusplus> the i now changed to xine
[02:30] <cplusplus> the mp3 is in the list
[02:30] <kkathman> satempler:  try  cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/THRN
[02:30] <satempler> but then again thats what it runs in GNOME enlightenment
[02:31] <cplusplus> but when i press play it goes to the end...hm
[02:31] <satempler> kkathman: did that but added temperature
[02:31] <kkathman> okies
[02:31] <satempler> cplusplus: get EasyKubuntu
[02:31] <satempler> it will help better
[02:31] <DaSkreech> Delvien: They are down AFAIK
[02:31] <cplusplus> EasyKubuntu whats that?
[02:32] <satempler> !EasyKubuntu
[02:32] <ubotu> satempler: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:32] <nalioth> satempler: did it hurt?
[02:32] <satempler> !easy kubuntu
[02:32] <ubotu> satempler: I give up, what is it?
[02:32] <Delvien> DaSkreech aye thanks
[02:32] <satempler> !easy ubuntu
[02:32] <ubotu> satempler: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[02:32] <satempler> damn it
[02:32] <nalioth> !easybreezy
[02:32] <ubotu> nalioth: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:33] <nalioth> ubotu: yes
[02:33] <ubotu> Yes, yes! Yes indeed. Who would have thunk it, eh, nalioth?
[02:33] <Delvien> anyone here use dapper yet?
[02:33] <nalioth> cplusplus: join #easyubuntu and we can explain
[02:33] <satempler> ok easy kubuntu will install amarok and other studd
[02:33] <nalioth> Delvien: yes
[02:33] <Delvien> nalioth you on a laptop or desktop
[02:33] <satempler> other stuff
[02:34] <kkathman> Delvien: my CPU runs around 112-116F running KDE
[02:34] <nalioth> Delvien: i'm not running dapper, it's broken. but there are folks here who are running it
[02:34] <satempler> ok what is 56C in F
[02:34] <kkathman> but I have a Sempron which tends to run a little hotter than other CPUs
[02:34] <Delvien> nalioth well im running it flawlessly, but i had a question on SD card reader (built in)
[02:35] <twan> gtk 2.0 is that a package that is there but not installed?
[02:35] <kkathman> 58C = 134F
[02:35] <Delvien> kkathman you are on that toshiba right?
[02:35] <satempler> wow that is hot
[02:35] <satempler> I have a celleron
[02:35] <kkathman> Delvien: no.. on a custom built box
[02:35] <kkathman> satempler: celerons run hot too
[02:35] <Delvien> kkathman AMD?
[02:35] <kkathman> Delvien: yes  AMD Sempron
[02:35] <satempler> brb
[02:36] <Delvien> kkathman aye amds run hotter, but they test high for durability
[02:36] <_grigory> hey guys
[02:37] <_grigory> I try to play DVD
[02:37] <_grigory> and get an error saying that codecs not found
[02:37] <_grigory> and DVD can't be played
[02:37] <_grigory> Kaffein also proposed to install some plug-ins
[02:37] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _grigory about dvd
[02:37] <kkathman> Delvien: actually the Barton Core AMDs run cooler than their Intel counterparts
[02:38] <_grigory> nalioth: so its libdvdcss that i need?
[02:38] <_grigory> !msg ubotu libdvdcss
[02:38] <ubotu> _grigory: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[02:38] <_grigory> hm
[02:38] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _grigory about libdvdcss
[02:39] <_grigory> thanks
[02:39] <_grigory> is it in repos?
[02:39] <nalioth> _grigory: read the info
[02:39] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _grigory about libdvdcss2
[02:39] <Delvien> kkathman not much of a desktop guy here.. if i cant close pick up my computer and run in about 3 seconds, its not for me :P
[02:39] <kkathman> hehe
[02:40] <kkathman> Delvien: I want to find a way to boot linux off of a thumbdrive, but then have it be able to write to a small FAT32 partition on my lappy
[02:41] <kkathman> I thought maybe PuppyLinux could do it..but not 100% sure yet
[02:41] <Delvien> kkathman well the booting it from the usb is easy, its the partitioning thats hards, that writing your own live cd kernal there kinda thing
[02:41] <robotgeek> hi kkathman , gotta run now bye :)
[02:41] <kkathman> hi bye robotgeek :)
[02:42] <kkathman> Delvien: yah see PuppyLinux apparently allows you to do this
[02:42] <fenderman> hi everybody :)
[02:42] <kkathman> without having to build the kernel yourself
[02:42] <kkathman> hi fenderman :)
[02:42] <fenderman> hi kkathman
[02:42] <twan> libglade-2.0
[02:42] <fenderman> i have a doubt
[02:42] <twan> where is that
[02:43] <kkathman> Delvien: but you have to like, get a CD of it, install it, then build your USB from there
[02:43] <kkathman> which I dont want to do
[02:43] <fenderman> i'm running ubuntu, then added kubuntu and since i upgraded the linux kernel everytime i turn on the PC it says "mounting local filesystems   failed"
[02:44] <DaSkreech> kkathman: Is anyone hacking on adept to support one touch upgrades?
[02:44] <fenderman> but i can use the computer normally
[02:45] <fenderman> then downloaded a patch but i don't know how to apply it
[02:45] <fenderman> i can't find the linux kernel folder
[02:46] <fenderman> can anybody help me? please?
[02:47] <kkathman> DaSkreech: not that I know of
[02:47] <kkathman> DaSkreech -  I'd think that online updates better than cron-apt would come before that...but Im not a developer
[02:49] <fenderman> is there any problem if i leave it that way? with that error showing all the time?
[02:50] <Delvien> kkathman sorry
[02:50] <Delvien> kkathman was playing with my mp3 player.. umm well pretty much what i did was put everything from a live on my USB and in my bios i booted up from the USB drive
[02:53] <fenderman> no one?
[02:57] <Delvien> kkathman i didnt have to do that
[03:02] <kkathman> hmm
[03:02] <kkathman> Delvien: how big was your USB?
[03:03] <kkathman> I think I have only a 128mb thumbdrive :)
[03:04] <kkathman> Delvien: I was thinking about just getting a small external laptop drive, putting it in an external USB drive case, and then being able to plug it in at will and boot from it
[03:04] <kkathman> I have a company IBM Thinkpad, so I cant like go changing anything on the actual real bootdrive
[03:14] <rance> could someone tell me how you switch nicks like that?
[03:14] <sampan> rance, in most irc clients you type: /nick new-nick-here
[03:15] <rance> ok, I was trying to get /help nick to work, but it just game the same as /help
[03:15] <sampan> lol ... not very helpful eh?
[03:16] <glick> excuse me im writting a gcc program and for some reason it cant find stdio.h
[03:16] <glick> or any of the other standard headers
[03:16] <glick> what the heck is goin on?
[03:17] <rance> there we go
[03:17] <rance> thanks
[03:17] <sampan> glick, have you installed build-essential and the other dev packages?  (ubuntu/kubuntu don't install them all from the cd)
[03:17] <rance> was registring an alternate nic
[03:18] <glick> sampan: no i didnt thanks
[03:18] <sampan> glick, yeah build-essential and the X includes -- see ubotu's factoid in a moment
[03:18] <sampan> !X includes
[03:18] <ubotu> Wish i knew, sampan
[03:18] <sampan> doh
[03:18] <rance> nite
[03:18] <sampan> !xincludes
[03:18] <ubotu> When a program or configure script asks for "X includes", you should probably install the following packages: xlibs-dev   xlibs-static-dev   x-window-system-dev
[03:19] <sampan> there we go -- dunno if you'll need those or not -- but seems many people who go to compile stuff end out needing them
[03:19] <satempler> ok just turned on ondemand
[03:20] <satempler> no wI am running any where from 250Mhz to 2Ghz
[03:23] <_grigory> my video card has video-out, and under windows it works perfectly (connected to TV), whereas under kubuntu all i get is screwed up image
[03:23] <_grigory> how do i fix this?
[03:30] <_grigory> ok, atitvout...
[03:32] <vge> darn im getting tired of that ubuntuforums
[03:51] <cinder> hello!!!
[03:51] <cinder> how can i remove a pannel
[03:51] <cinder> ??
[03:51] <cinder> in kde??
[03:51] <cinder> 3.5?
[03:51] <cinder> the main pannel
[03:55] <cinder> hello??
[03:55] <cinder> please
[04:00] <greg> Hi there. Just installed kubuntu and am trying to get to ubuntuforums.org. AAre they not respondin or is it me?
[04:00] <glick> i think that kde on ubuntu has a long time to go before its at teh level of usability that gnome for ubuntu is
[04:00] <glick> kde is nicely intergrated and everything but gnome ismuch more usable
[04:01] <glick> i just wish gnome was as integrated as kde
[04:01] <glick> then it would be perfect
[04:02] <Tm_T> nah
[04:02] <Tm_T> I like KDE much
[04:03] <Tm_T> possibility of choices
[04:03] <glick> things about it piss me off
[04:03] <greg> I'm pretty impressed with kubuntu.
[04:03] <greg> Easy, fast install.
[04:04] <Delvien> gglick what do you mean when you say "intergrated"
[04:04] <Tm_T> Delvien: different apps work together
[04:05] <Delvien> Tm_T oh, .. if you are talking about kmail or w/e its called :P
[04:05] <glick> amorok an everything its great
[04:05] <glick> but i don know other stuff greatly annoys me, or maybe its just cause im so use to gnome
[04:05] <Tm_T> Delvien: for example, you can start IM chat in Kopete from Kmail, or, you can just drag'n'drop to rip cd or...
[04:05] <Delvien> i agree amarok is great but since i got my mp3 player no need for it anymore
[04:06] <ccc_> kde feels like 2006, gnome feels like 2001
[04:06] <Delvien> Tm_t ah
[04:06] <Delvien> Tm_T its all a matter of opinion for most people
[04:06] <Tm_T> Delvien: you don't use app this or app that, you use KDE
[04:06] <ccc_> glick: you just need a transition period :)
[04:06] <Tm_T> Delvien: and yes, ofcourse it is
[04:07] <Delvien> Tm_T if it didnt run my memory so high and my cpu so hot i would of still been using it
[04:07] <glick> well one thing that bugs me is the panel clock is only available in 24 hour period
[04:07] <Tm_T> Delvien: what? 250M and 1-10% cpu here
[04:07] <Tm_T> with amaroK and all
[04:08] <glick> secondly, i miss how in gnome a little icon would appear automatically letting me know when there were updates
[04:08] <Delvien> Tm_T 250-350 here ( too much IMO) and cpu runs 40-53 C all the time.. not supposed to happen
[04:08] <Delvien> glick i had to go back to gnome because KDE had poor laptop support IE battery and wifi configs
[04:08] <glick> also the network connectivity
[04:08] <glick> icon in gnome
[04:09] <Tm_T> Delvien: well, it's not much IF you think how much different apps you're running, and! you can reduce it significally by just reducing stuff you don't need
[04:09] <glick> Delvien: right, i have a laptop
[04:10] <Delvien> hmm is UPS on strike ?
[04:10] <Tm_T> Delvien: have you ever used KPersonalizer? try it ;)
[04:10] <Tm_T> gone ->
[04:10] <Delvien> Tm_t aye didnt like it
[04:11] <arrinmurr> i used gnome for years and hated kde... until i one day actually tried it :)
[04:11] <Tm_T> Delvien: errr
[04:11] <Tm_T> you didn't like kpersonalizer?
[04:11] <glick> i just wish they went with the classical look for gnome
[04:11] <Delvien> nope
[04:11] <glick> with the foot print and all
[04:11] <Tm_T> ...you run it once and do settings easily, what part you didn't like?
[04:12] <cinder> how can i remove a panel
[04:12] <cinder> ??
[04:12] <Delvien> glick that can be changed with a theme
[04:12] <Tm_T> cinder: dcop kicker kicker quit
[04:12] <Tm_T> cinder: if you wan't it all gone
[04:12] <greg> right-click the icon and select remove
[04:13] <cinder> Tm_T: I want the regular one gone
[04:13] <cinder> in the botton
[04:13] <cinder> 'cause I installed kxdocker
[04:13] <Tm_T> cinder: then just rightclick and remove panel
[04:13] <Tm_T> ok, gone ->
[04:13] <cinder> dont show the option
[04:14] <cinder> add to panel, remove from panel, panel config
[04:14] <Delvien> Tm_t too self automated, it was mostly because KDE has so many tiny settings and was still buggy when i used it,
[04:14] <Delvien> Tm_t kde sucks for wireless configs..
[04:15] <cinder> Tm_T: got it?
[04:15] <Arcanimus> hey guys, how do you recompile your kernel?
[04:16] <Arcanimus> i'm trying to install vmware and it says that it can't install because my kernel was compiled with an older version of gcc than I have installed and that I should recompile my kernel with the current gcc that I have
[04:16] <mike> Which kernel are you running?
[04:17] <Arcanimus> uhh...
[04:18] <Arcanimus> how do I figure that out?
[04:18] <Arcanimus> :|
[04:18] <glick> type uname -a into the commandline
[04:18] <mike> Open a terminal, type: cd /usr/src
[04:18] <Arcanimus> Linux linux 2.6.12-10-386 #1 Mon Jan 16 17:18:08 UTC 2006 i686 GNU/Linux
[04:18] <mike> ok.  look in /usr/src to see if you have the kernel source code
[04:19] <Arcanimus> there's a dir called rpm
[04:19] <Arcanimus> so I think so
[04:19] <mike> I don't think you can recompile if you just have the RPM.
[04:19] <mike> You'll have to download the source.
[04:19] <Arcanimus> err actually.. that dir is empty
[04:19] <Arcanimus> lol
[04:19] <Arcanimus> alright
[04:19] <Arcanimus> where do I get the source?
[04:20] <mike> Uhh...  switch to Gentoo Linux
[04:20] <mike> :)
[04:20] <Arcanimus> :O
[04:20] <Arcanimus> Any other suggestions?
[04:20] <mike> Sorry, I don't know.  I've only compiled the kernel using Gentoo.  Never had to do it elsewhere.
[04:21] <hawking> I want to set my network settings for a static IP . when I set the DNS server from network settings it says I have to create an alias for them and when I reboot the computer the DNS configuration is gone.. what's alias how can i set it? I mean it only allows me to type in IP
[04:21] <Delvien> !enter
[04:21] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[04:22] <Arcanimus> I found an RPM "This package provides the source code for the Linux kernel version 2.6.11."
[04:22] <Arcanimus> but i have 2.6.11
[04:22] <Arcanimus> err
[04:22] <Arcanimus> 2.6.12
[04:22] <glick> Arcanimus: compiling a *workin* kernel is no trivial talk
[04:22] <glick> ^task
[04:22] <Arcanimus> :(
[04:23] <Arcanimus> Crap, but I have no way to install vmware then
[04:23] <Arcanimus> sigh :(
[04:23] <Arcanimus> so what do you guys suggest I do then..?
[04:24] <Arcanimus> aside from the gentoo suggestion
[04:24] <mike> You could find a distro in which the kernel was compiled with the same GCC that is supplied.
[04:25] <mike> Or get the older GCC
[04:25] <mike> for your current kernel
[04:26] <glick> i dont know why vmware would care
[04:26] <glick> what version of gcc is installed
[04:29] <shawkins> hey
[04:31] <os2mac> have they released updates to the KDE packages for the new vuln...
[04:32] <os2mac> http://www.kde.org/info/security/advisory-20060119-1.txt
[04:35] <dcode> how do I disable the virtual screen resolutions in xorg?
[04:37] <Arcanimus> mike, i found the source
[04:37] <Arcanimus> for the kernel that i have
[04:37] <Arcanimus> ftp://ftp.cc.monash.edu.au/pub/linux/kernel/v2.6
[04:37] <Arcanimus> there's a gzipped source of 2.6.12
[04:38] <Arcanimus> i'm downloading it right now
[04:38] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: err.. you can get the source for the kernel in ubuntu repositories
[04:38] <Arcanimus> i checked but for some reason the latest one it had was 2.6.11
[04:38] <Arcanimus> which is one patch version less than the one i have
[04:39] <Arcanimus> I don't really wanna risk my kernel to some sort of different versions
[04:39] <Arcanimus> and whatnot
[04:39] <Arcanimus> which is why I didn't even download the latest kernel from the ftp
[04:39] <Arcanimus> it's 70% done downloading
[04:39] <arrinmurr> linux-source-2.6.12
[04:40] <Arcanimus> ooo
[04:40] <Arcanimus> ty
[04:40] <Arcanimus> ok so after I get this
[04:40] <Arcanimus> what am I to do with this?
[04:41] <Arcanimus> is this like the standard ./configure, make, make install kind of thing?
[04:42] <glick> Arcanimus: i seriously advise you NOT to mess with your kernel unless you have a good 2 weeks to play with it read about all the options and are willing to make tons of mistakes before you get even a half working kernel
[04:42] <glick> Arcanimus: and no its not that simple
[04:42] <Arcanimus> damn
[04:43] <Arcanimus> anyone here wanna ssh to my compy and do it for me? :P
[04:43] <Arcanimus> i really wanna get vmware working :(
[04:43] <arrinmurr> i think it could be compiled with the same configuration that the kernel shipped with ubuntu is compiled
[04:44] <Arcanimus> eh?
[04:44] <glick> i dont see how vmware would know what version of gcc your kernel was compiled with or why it should caer
[04:44] <Arcanimus> the vmware installer says so
[04:44] <Arcanimus> it even gave the versions
[04:45] <Arcanimus> i think it said the kernel was compiled with gcc 3.5.x
[04:45] <Arcanimus> and i have 4.0.x
[04:45] <glick> then why dont you just install the appropriate gcc
[04:45] <glick> ?
[04:45] <Arcanimus> and "this is not acceptible"
[04:45] <glick> and uninstall 4.0?
[04:45] <glick> ubuntu has gcc 3.5.x
[04:45] <Arcanimus> err... well I thought of that but wouldn't installing an older version of gcc be worse?
[04:45] <glick> no
[04:45] <Arcanimus> alright
[04:45] <Arcanimus> hmm...
[04:46] <dcode> how do I disable the virtual screen resolutions in xorg?  the virtual viewport is annoying
[04:46] <Arcanimus> "gcc version 4.0.2 20050808 (prerelease) (Ubuntu 4.0.1-4ubuntu9)"
[04:47] <Arcanimus> Your kernel was built with "gcc" version "3.4.5", while you are trying to use
[04:47] <Arcanimus> "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2". This configuration is not supported and VMware
[04:47] <Arcanimus> Workstation cannot work in such configuration. Please either recompile your
[04:47] <Arcanimus> kernel with "/usr/bin/gcc" version "4.0.2", or restart /usr/bin/vmware-config.pl
[04:47] <Arcanimus> with CC environment variable pointing to the "gcc" version "3.4.5".
[04:47] <Arcanimus> ooops
[04:47] <Arcanimus> i thought it was one line
[04:47] <Arcanimus> sorry
[04:47] <glick> damn im hungry and the later it gets the fewer my options for food :(
[04:47] <Arcanimus> so where do i get gcc 3.4.5?
[04:47] <Arcanimus> apt-get?
[04:48] <glick> yeah
[04:48] <Arcanimus> what's the name?
[04:48] <Arcanimus> gcc-3.4.5?
[04:48] <Arcanimus> or how do I search for it?
[04:48] <glick> dude do a search for gcc in adept
[04:48] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: http://www.computing.net/linux/wwwboard/forum/28242.html
[04:49] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: http://www.vmware.com/community/message.jspa?messageID=311128
[04:49] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: google is your friend, you know ;)
[04:50] <vge> every mistake has allready been made
[04:51] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr, I tried that "export CC="/usr/bin/gcc-3.4.5"" but that doesn't do anything
[04:51] <Arcanimus> i still get the same error
[04:51] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: there are other instructions too
[04:56] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: there's something too http://life.lukewarmtapioca.com/articles/2005/10/20/vmware-player-on-ubuntu-breezy
[04:58] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr,
[04:58] <Arcanimus> this is what i did:
[04:59] <Arcanimus> rm /usr/bin/gcc <-- symbolic link to /usr/bin/gcc-4.0
[04:59] <Arcanimus> ln -s /usr/bin/gcc /usr/bin/gcc-3.4
[04:59] <Arcanimus> then i ran the script
[04:59] <Arcanimus> it said my compiler is 3.4.6 not 3.4.5 and whether i should continue
[04:59] <Arcanimus> i said yes
[04:59] <Arcanimus> now I get
[04:59] <Arcanimus> What is the location of the directory of C header files that match your running
[04:59] <Arcanimus> kernel? [/usr/src/linux/include] 
[04:59] <dcode> is it normal that a user cannot run startx?  he has to login from kdm?
[04:59] <Arcanimus> but that dir doesn't exist
[05:00] <dcode> when I try to startx it says user isn't authorized
[05:00] <Arcanimus> dcode, i had that problem with mandrake linux
[05:00] <Arcanimus> for me it was becaause I didn't properly configure X11
[05:00] <dcode> drat
[05:00] <Arcanimus> after i did, it worked fine
[05:01] <dcode> was it an xorg.conf problem or something more severe?
[05:01] <dcode> could it be DRI permissions?
[05:01] <Arcanimus> I don't distinctly remember, mandrake was the first linux i ever used
[05:01] <Arcanimus> and it was a while ago
[05:01] <Arcanimus> and all I remember is that I had to reformat and configure from the installer properly
[05:01] <Arcanimus> I don't remember editing the actual config files
[05:01] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: err... in the second link i pasted there's some information about installing the kernel header packages :)
[05:01] <dcode> doh
[05:01] <Arcanimus> ty arrinmurr
[05:02] <dcode> alright...thnx Arcanimus
[05:02] <Arcanimus> np dcode
[05:03] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr, that last link i don't really see anything about headers there
[05:03] <Arcanimus> :|
[05:03] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: i said the second one
[05:03] <Arcanimus> which second one
[05:03] <Arcanimus> ophh
[05:03] <Arcanimus> nvm
[05:04] <Arcanimus> err wait in that forum
[05:04] <Arcanimus> the guy just says that he installed headers properly
[05:04] <Arcanimus> it doesn't really say how unless i'm missing something
[05:05] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: look at the second post there
[05:05] <Arcanimus> "VMware will automatically recommend /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/build/include to you, and just accepting default will work. "
[05:05] <Arcanimus> err..?
[05:06] <Arcanimus> i think i found the headers on adept
[05:06] <Arcanimus> so i'll try that first
[05:08] <Steven_M> who here  uses aptitude?
[05:09] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: i don't really know anything about this issue, so i can't give specific instructions. but the first place you should go to with error messages / other problems is http://www.ubuntuforums.org (which is unfortunately down at the moment), and the second place is google. in most cases you'll find the answers there :)
[05:09] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: that is, at least if nobody know the answer here ;)
[05:09] <Arcanimus> oh no :( now i got the headers to work
[05:09] <Arcanimus> but it says:
[05:10] <Arcanimus> /tmp/vmware-config0/vmmon-only/Makefile:89: *** Inappropriate build environment: you wanted to use gcc version 3.3.6 while kernel attempts to use gcc version .
[05:10] <Arcanimus> what the hell is version "."?
[05:10] <Arcanimus> :|
[05:11] <Steven_M> what's a ppp uncompression error?
[05:12] <Arcanimus> Steven_M, what context? networking?
[05:12] <angasule> !7-zip
[05:12] <ubotu> angasule: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[05:13] <Arcanimus> PPP = Point-To-Point Protocol; you're probably using a DSL line with a PPPoE router and something is most likely faulty in there
[05:13] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: hmm.. don't know what that means, but maybe you could try asking in #ubuntu . there's usually some people who use vmware in there
[05:13] <angasule> the 7-zip format is not supported out of the box?
[05:13] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr, i'm going to give the rpm a try
[05:13] <Arcanimus> again
[05:14] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: why would you want to use an rpm with ubuntu?
[05:14] <Steven_M> Arcanimus: I'm downloading something  with apt-get.
[05:15] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr, it's not an rpm, i used "alien" to make it .deb but w/e
[05:15] <Arcanimus> that's what i meant
[05:15] <Arcanimus> Steven_M, so yeah, probably something to do with your networking would be my guess
[05:15] <Arcanimus> check your network configuration
[05:15] <Arcanimus> are you properly connected to the net? (other apps can access the net)
[05:15] <ronnix> Weird.
[05:15] <ronnix> Had to test this out. :P
[05:15] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: ah, ok. so what's in the package then? :)
[05:16] <Arcanimus> whatcha mean
[05:16] <Arcanimus> "vmwareworkstation_5.5.1-19176_i386.deb"
[05:16] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: is it vmware? or the kernel source?
[05:16] <Arcanimus> that's what :P
[05:16] <arrinmurr> ah
[05:17] <Arcanimus> ok installed from the package
[05:17] <Arcanimus> let's give the config tool a try
[05:17] <Arcanimus> noooooo
[05:17] <Arcanimus> same error
[05:17] <Arcanimus> :'(
[05:18] <Steven_M> Arcanimus:  it seems to be carying on, will this damage the packages I'm downloading?
[05:20] <Arcanimus> gcc-3.4: command not found
[05:20] <Arcanimus> wth..
[05:20] <Steven_M> Arcanimus:  it seems to be carying on, will this damage the packages I'm downloading?
[05:20] <Arcanimus> you're downloading them and getting the error at the same time??
[05:21] <Arcanimus> go to you shell and type ping google.ca
[05:21] <Arcanimus> or google.com
[05:21] <Arcanimus> see if you get a reply
[05:21] <Arcanimus> just to make sure you're connected to the net
[05:21] <Steven_M> yeah
[05:21] <Arcanimus> ok
[05:21] <Arcanimus> hmm...
[05:21] <Arcanimus> i'm not really sure bud
[05:21] <Arcanimus> sorry :\
[05:22] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: did you try to undo everything you had done to the gcc symlinks or something, and do all that's said on that forum?
[05:22] <Steven_M> that's ok
[05:23] <Arcanimus> arrinmurr, whatcha mean? i'm using the rpm now
[05:23] <Arcanimus> the rpm is installed i'm just running the config script
[05:24] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: hm? so what was the first version of vmware you tried to use then?
[05:24] <Arcanimus> i was using the .tar.gz source
[05:25] <Arcanimus> at first
[05:25] <Arcanimus> then just now I tried RPM version (.deb)
[05:25] <arrinmurr> source code? isn't vmware commercial?
[05:26] <arrinmurr> ah well, i guess i should just shut up since i don't really know :)
[05:26] <Arcanimus> lol it is commercial but for some reason I have a .tar.gz version
[05:26] <Arcanimus> but i don't think it's the source because it's perl scripts
[05:26] <Arcanimus> for the installation
[05:27] <arrinmurr> what are you trying to use with vmware?
[05:27] <arrinmurr> i mean, what _would_ you try to use if you got it to work
[05:27] <Arcanimus> like i put in the survey on their site, "Run Windows Apps on Linux"
[05:27] <Arcanimus> I am not enjoying wine very much
[05:28] <Arcanimus> and my dad tried vmware on his XP comp and it ran SuSE pretty nicely
[05:28] <Arcanimus> which is quite awesome
[05:28] <Arcanimus> i was most impressed :)
[05:28] <Arcanimus> plus i hear a lot of talk about vmware and how great it is
[05:28] <Arcanimus> so I decided it would be a lot better than trying to get something like win4lin which is completely no-name
[05:28] <arrinmurr> oh, ok. just thought that there's something called qemu too
[05:29] <Arcanimus> qemu?? never heard of it
[05:29] <arrinmurr> don't really know much about it http://fabrice.bellard.free.fr/qemu/
[05:29] <arrinmurr> but it's in the ubuntu repositories too
[05:30] <Arcanimus> hmm i'll give it a try actually
[05:31] <arrinmurr> i think vmware is the best there is though
[05:32] <arrinmurr> never really used one of those myself. i don't even have windows :)
[05:33] <arrinmurr> but qemu does seem to run windows too http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Qemu-fc4-winxp.png
[05:43] <arrinmurr> Arcanimus: oh, there seems to be a howto too https://wiki.ubuntu.com//WindowsXPUnderQemuHowTo
[05:44] <Hitchhiker90> *SMOOCH*
[05:58] <jn> ?
[06:03] <dbunch> scuse me how can i play .avi files?
[06:03] <dbunch> i downloaded gstreamer-mmpeg
[06:04] <arrinmurr> dbunch: with what player?
[06:04] <dbunch> arrinmurr: noatine
[06:04] <dbunch> noatune
[06:06] <arrinmurr> dbunch: hmm.. i'd recommend kaffeine ;)
[06:06] <arrinmurr> dbunch: but anyway, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:06] <dbunch> arrinmurr: well i cant play it with kaffeine
[06:07] <arrinmurr> dbunch: install kaffeine-xine and select it in settings -> player engine
[06:08] <arrinmurr> dbunch: you should also get the latest kaffeine from ubuntu backports if you haven't already
[06:09] <dbunch> backports?
[06:09] <arrinmurr> dbunch: yeah. normally in a stable ubuntu no packages are upgraded, unless security fixes are needed. backports includes newer software from a ubuntu development version for stable ubuntu
[06:11] <arrinmurr> dbunch: the kaffeine shipped with kubuntu / available from ubuntu repositories crashes quite easily :/
[06:11] <dbunch> yeah how can i just get it to play in noatune?
[06:12] <arrinmurr> dbunch: i know nothing about noatune, but read that link about restricted formats
[06:20] <dcode> so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM, I don't have use of my keybard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[06:20] <dcode> *keyboard
[06:24] <Arcanimus> night all
[06:25] <dcode> nite
[06:25] <_ian_> this is weird...when i logged in just now.... my rersolution is at 640X 480 and it is not pleasant....i went to the display setting but it is the only option available why is this?
[06:25] <dcode> did you recently update?
[06:25] <dcode> can you use your keyboard?
[06:25] <_ian_> i can use my keyboard
[06:26] <dcode> well...then you're one up on me :-(
[06:26] <_ian_> ha?
[06:26] <dcode> (from earlier) so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM, I don't have use of my keybard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[06:26] <dcode> *keyboard
[06:27] <_ian_> sorry im a total noob
[06:27] <dcode> _ian_: has your xorg.conf changed recently?
[06:27] <dcode> or maybe did you upgrade your kernel and not your nvidia or ati drivers (if you have those)
[06:27] <_ian_> how will i know for sure...
[06:28] <_ian_> hmmm i tried using wget
[06:28] <_ian_> to install folding at home
[06:28] <_ian_> but it is installed now
[06:28] <_ian_> but when i rebooted its like this now
[06:28] <dcode> um....
[06:28] <dcode> have you done "apt-get upgrade" lately?
[06:29] <_ian_> hmmm....i think i saw somehting that updated through the kernel
[06:29] <_ian_> i mean terminal
[06:30] <dcode> well....open a terminal window and type "ls /etc/X11/xorg.conf*"
[06:31] <dcode> debconf shouldn't have deleted your old config if you updated xorg, it should have just moved it to 'xorg.conf.20060121' or similar
[06:31] <_ian_> ok then?
[06:31] <_ian_> /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:31] <_ian_> ian@ubuntu:~$
[06:31] <dcode> okay
[06:31] <dcode> so that looks probably good
[06:32] <dcode> what kinda video card do you have?
[06:32] <_ian_> ati....i eman ive been usign ubuntu for 3 weeks now and this problem only ocvccured now
[06:33] <_ian_> perhaps it is my fault
[06:33] <dcode> did you feed your computer some coke?
[06:33] <dcode> maybe a slice of pizza?
[06:33] <_ian_> ? eheh not really
[06:33] <dcode> that would be your fault
[06:33] <dcode> heh
[06:33] <_dave> hi, is there X server expert on here by any chance
[06:34] <_ian_> so what should i do?
[06:34] <dcode> not so much _dave...we all seem to have broke xservers, but that do ya got?
[06:34] <_dave> i am having troulbe getting X to recognize the correct resolution for my monitor
[06:34] <dcode> _ian_: pray that some one comes along with a better idea than I have
[06:34] <dcode> sorry _ian_, but nothing is sticking out as an obvious problem to me
[06:35] <_dave> in ubuntu i can't seem to get it come up with 1280x1024, however when I ran Madrivia i didn't seem to have this problem
[06:35] <dcode> _dave, are you at 640x480?
[06:35] <_dave> 1024x768
[06:35] <_ian_> sudo apt-get install curl wget
[06:35] <_ian_>  .....this what i used then something came up through the terminal that is being updated
[06:35] <_dave> in the xorg.conf it has 1280x1024 listed
[06:36] <dcode> _ian_ that's not releated to X at all
[06:36] <_dave> however, its not a choice when i try to changed to it in KDE or GNOME
[06:36] <dcode> _dave: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com <-- drop /var/log/Xorg.0.log there
[06:37] <dcode> _ian_ do the same
[06:37] <dcode> I've been reading these damn log files all not...I'm getting pretty good at it
[06:37] <dcode> s/not/night/
[06:38] <_ian_> i eman its kinda real hard to read staffd since my reso is to small i need to scroll a lot
[06:38] <_dave> thanks a lot man, i have posted it
[06:39] <renewip> when I double click on to windows title, the window does NOT maxium
[06:39] <dcode> _dave: how's that 1905FP?  I got one too...I love it
[06:40] <renewip> i want its become maxium
[06:40] <renewip> how to?
[06:40] <_dave> oh i love it too
[06:40] <_dave> i got a great deal on it throgh slick deals
[06:40] <_dave> and if i could get ubuntu to let it run 1280 i would be even happier
[06:40] <_dave> :)
[06:40] <dcode> heh
[06:41] <dcode> okay....it's not using 1280x1024 because for all the configurations vrefresh or hsync are out of range
[06:41] <dcode> so you need some modelines
[06:41] <dcode> w00t
[06:41] <_dave> modelines ? sorry not sure if i know what that means
[06:41] <dcode> heh
[06:42] <dcode> are you looking at your log file?
[06:42] <_dave> yep
[06:42] <_dave> ok, i see the modelines for all the other resolutions
[06:42] <_ian_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/517125
[06:43] <dcode> yeah....so you either need a modeline for your desired resolution, or fix the monitor definition in your xorg.conf
[06:43] <dcode> _ian_ just a sec
[06:43] <_dave> hmm... whats easier? :)
[06:44] <dcode> I think if we fix the monitor definition
[06:44] <renewip> /lis
[06:45] <_ian_> il be back ill try a restart
[06:45] <dcode> are you using 2 monitors or just one?
[06:45] <_dave> just one
[06:46] <dcode> alright _dave
[06:47] <dcode> you need to open /etc/X11/xorg.conf file in your favorite text editor as root
[06:47] <dcode> so use sudo or whatever
[06:47] <_dave> k done
[06:49] <renewip> when I double click on to windows title, the window does NOT maxium
[06:49] <_dave> am i going to need to change the identifier under the "monitor" section?
[06:51] <sampan> renewip: kmenu --> system settings --> Desktop --> Window Behavior ... then Actions tab, and you can change what a double-click does to your windows
[06:51] <dcode> no
[06:51] <sampan> bah
[06:51] <dcode> you need to change the VertRefresh and HorizSync
[06:51] <dcode> it should be:
[06:52] <dcode> 56-76 for VertRefresh and 30-81 for HorizSync
[06:52] <dcode> _ian_: I needed the logfile not the conf
[06:53] <dcode> but hold a sec...I can help you
[06:53] <_dave> excellent, thanks man... let me give that a try
[06:54] <iantec> for some odd reason it is ok now
[06:54] <iantec> after i restarted
[06:55] <dcode> alright
[06:57] <_dave> hmm... still no luck
[06:58] <iantec> hmmm i have another concernn.....when trying games in 3d...my pc cant properly paly them....i mean the resolution then when i exit my screen will black out is it because i am still using the dummy driver for my vid card? if so how will i be able to install the driver ...my card is ati 9550 gt but when i check setting my card is detected as a 9600
[06:58] <_dave> and i don't see to have those sync out of range messages
[06:59] <_dave> actually it still has the error messages.. i think... let me see here
[07:01] <_dave> well i posted my log file again, dcode if you have a minute to see if you see anything else
[07:02] <dcode> k...sec
[07:02] <dcode> can you post your config?  /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:03] <_dave> sure
[07:04] <_dave> ok its up there
[07:09] <dcode> ite
[07:09] <dcode> check http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/517138
[07:10] <dcode> I added a modeline and changed the screens section to explicitly use the modeline
[07:10] <dcode> the modeline just tells the X server to use a specified resolution and refresh rate, etc
[07:10] <_dave> ahh... i gotcha
[07:11] <_dave> so i should just be able to save that into my xorg.conf file
[07:11] <dcode> yeah
[07:11] <dcode> you might want to make a backup copy
[07:11] <dcode> just move it to xorg.conf.bak or something
[07:11] <_dave> right...good idea
[07:11] <dcode> not that it's that big of a deal, but it's good practice
[07:13] <dcode> so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM or startx, I don't have use of my keyboard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[07:13] <dcode> nobody is ever gonna answer my question
[07:15] <crimsun_> dcode: post your /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[07:16] <dcode> okay...but I don't think it's an X issue
[07:17] <dcode> although there is one crazy line that I can't discern....it's posting
[07:17] <dcode> damn satellite latency
[07:18] <dcode> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/517143
[07:18] <_dave> man... the X server just doesn't want to cooperate :)
[07:19] <dcode> no dice?
[07:19] <_dave> unfortunately no
[07:19] <dcode> drat...I'm out of caffienne
[07:19] <dcode> :-(
[07:19] <dcode> crimsun_: you checking that log, by chance?
[07:19] <_dave> no worries.. i apprieate the suggestions
[07:20] <dcode> aw damn...it truncated it
[07:21] <dcode> cirmsun_: here's the rest (and probably more relevent) http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/517145
[07:21] <dcode> there's a line that sez AUDIT: blah blah
[07:22] <dcode> that's odd to me
[07:23] <crimsun_> dcode: I'm busy atw
[07:23] <crimsun_> atm^
[07:24] <dcode> k
[07:34] <hatake_kakashi> anyone running on vanilla kernel?
[07:37] <_dave> decode... one more quick question... it should read my new xorg.conf file when i log out and then log back in KDE right?
[07:37] <_dave> the reason i ask is because in the log file I am still seeing messages about "Generic Monitor"
[07:38] <dcode> when you logout, do you go to KDM?
[07:38] <dcode> press CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[07:38] <dcode> that will kill X and restart it
[07:39] <_dave> ok i will give that a try
[07:39] <hatake_kakashi> no-one compiled their kernel from kernel.org?
[07:43] <dcode> yay....after only 8 hours of working...I managed to fix my keyboard
[07:43] <dcode> :-D
[07:44] <dcode> *happy happy joy joy happy happy joy*
[08:20] <dan_> kkathman: sound still dowsnt work
[08:20] <dan_> kkathman: any other ideas?
[08:21] <dan_> hi guys
[08:21] <dan_> ive got a problem
[08:21] <dan_> my sound doesnt work
[08:21] <poningru> dan_: did you try the different sources
[08:21] <dan_> can anyone please help me??
[08:21] <dan_> ponigru: no, how do i do that?
[08:22] <poningru> like alsa or esd or the other thing
[08:22] <poningru> not sure
[08:22] <poningru> I have a gnome desktop
[08:22] <poningru> ask in #kde
[08:22] <poningru> or #ubuntu
[08:22] <dan_> ponigru: is source= audio device?
[08:22] <poningru> not really
[08:22] <dan_> oh
[08:22] <poningru> oh and its the sink not the source
[08:22] <dan_> ok
[08:22] <crimsun_> dan_: cat /proc/asound/cards
[08:22] <poningru> my bad
[08:22] <dan_> thx
[08:23] <dan_> 0 [V8237          ] : VIA8237 - VIA 8237
[08:23] <dan_>                      VIA 8237 with CMI9761 at 0xc000, irq 22
[08:23] <dan_> thats what is says
[08:24] <crimsun_> dan_: pastebin the output from amixer
[08:24] <dan_> crimsun: what means pastebin?
[08:26] <crimsun_> !tell dan_ about pastebin
[08:32] <dan_> crimsun: i dunno how to pastebin. in the output all swithes are on(green light) an high ( up)
[08:34] <crimsun_> dan_: amixer, not alsamixer
[08:34] <crimsun_> dan_: copy the output and paste it onto the Web site
[08:35] <dan_> crimsun: where can i find amixer?
[08:36] <crimsun_> it's in /usr/bin
[08:36] <crimsun_> just use Konsole
[08:39] <dan_> crimsun: im at amixer. how do i open it? i went with konqueror
[08:40] <crimsun_> dan_: you don't "open" amixer, you just execute it, and it dumps out the current settings
[08:40] <crimsun_> paste those current settings onto the pastebin Web site
[08:41] <dan_> crimsun: i tried to execute it but it doesnt want
[08:41] <dan_> crimsun: when i execute it, a blank window apears
[08:42] <crimsun_> dan_: open a Konsole.
[08:42] <dan_> yes......
[08:43] <dan_> crimsun: what do i write in konsole?
[08:43] <crimsun_> amixer
[08:45] <dan_> where do i paste it?
[08:45] <crimsun_> at the Web site that the bot told you
[08:45] <dan_> io forgot it
[08:45] <dan_> !tell dan_ about pastebin
[08:45] <dan_> i got it
[08:46] <[47] > Anyone know of any issues with PCI network cards?
[08:47] <dan_> crimsun: i sent it
[08:48] <blaq> is there any reason that k3b no longer copies encrypted dvds even with libdvdcss2 installed?
[08:49] <crimsun_> dan_: paste the following into Konsole: for i in "IEC958" "IEC958 Capture Monitor" "IEC958 Capture Valid" "IEC958 Output"; do amixer sset \'$i\' off; done
[08:51] <dan_> crimsun: i did but there are a lot of uknown in there
[08:52] <crimsun_> dan_: amixer sset 'IEC958' off ; amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Valid' off ; amixer sset 'IEC958 Capture Monitor' off ; amixer sset 'IEC958 Output' off
[08:53] <dan_> crimsun: is it ok or is anything broken
[08:53] <dan_> ?
[08:53] <crimsun_> dan_: paste what I just typed
[08:54] <dan_> crimsun: i did
[08:54] <dan_> should i pastebin it?
[08:55] <crimsun_> yes
[08:57] <dan_> crimusn: i pasted only the secon command tou gave me
[08:57] <dan_> crimsun: should i paste the other too?
[08:57] <crimsun_> no
[08:57] <crimsun_> url?
[08:58] <dan_> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7468
[08:59] <hatake_kakashi> Any of you know how to change the console character encoding on linux?
[08:59] <DeadS0ul> hey guys, where does kubuntu keep alsa's soundcard config? /etc/modprobe.d/asound ?
[09:01] <dan_> DeadS0ul: hey
[09:01] <DeadS0ul> =P
[09:01] <DeadS0ul> is this channel totally quiet?
[09:01] <dan_> DeadS0ul: im also here
[09:01] <dan_> nope........
[09:01] <dan_> i think this channel is the best
[09:01] <DeadS0ul> ah
[09:01] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: :p
[09:02] <dan_> crimsu: so, what do tou think?
[09:02] <DeadS0ul> omg a naruto fan
[09:02] <hatake_kakashi> DeadS0ul: und?
[09:02] <dan_> im also a naruto fan
[09:02] <DeadS0ul> but hey, dan_ restart your soundserver in KDE, and test your sound
[09:02] <dan_> and a big nbig bleach fan
[09:02] <DeadS0ul> yeah ..me too acutally, haven't kept up with it though in a while
[09:02] <DeadS0ul> haven't watched bleach yet.. =O
[09:02] <dan_> DeadS0ul: i tried that too. i doesnt work
[09:03] <dan_> its very cool
[09:03] <DeadS0ul> dan_, just now, cos your card is configured now
[09:03] <DeadS0ul> and it wasn't earlier
[09:03] <dan_> oh
[09:03] <dan_> ok
[09:03] <dan_> DeadS0ul: i duno what you did but man youre a genius
[09:04] <DeadS0ul> =P
[09:04] <DeadS0ul> you'r enot outta the woods yet
[09:04] <DeadS0ul> you need to find your asoudn file
[09:04] <dan_> DeadS0ul: i installed kubunutu yesterday
[09:04] <DeadS0ul> run updatedb
[09:04] <DeadS0ul> and then try locate sound
[09:04] <dan_> DeadS0ul: since yesterday ive bennn trying to ge my sound working
[09:05] <dan_> DeadS0ul: i think  ill go sleep because i havent slept sice yesterday morning
[09:05] <DeadS0ul> heh
[09:05] <DeadS0ul> cya man =] 
[09:05] <dan_> DeadS0ul: hey, do you have messenger? or Kopete?
[09:05] <DeadS0ul> yeah
[09:06] <dan_> DeadS0ul: whats your id man?
[09:06] <DeadS0ul> 609102010, spawn57@yahoo.com for both MSN adn yahoo, and um hollowandbrusied for AIm
[09:06] <dan_> thx
[09:06] <dan_> spawn57
[09:06] <DeadS0ul> =D
[09:06] <DHGE> hello! anyone point me to make-jpkg to install Sun`s java for amd64?
[09:07] <dan_> i inserted you man
[09:07] <dan_> good night everybody
[09:07] <DeadS0ul> that soudns disturbing, inserted me..
[09:16] <blaq> why does k3b no longer copies encrypted dvds even with libdvdcss2 installed?
[09:17] <blaq> on hoary-i386 it did but now on breezy-amd64 it doesn't
[09:35] <dan_> its good to slepp after 30 hours no sleep
[09:36] <dan_> but.....i cant sleep
[09:36] <dan_> so....whats up guys?
[09:40] <Tm_T> dan_: heh, two sleepless nights behind here
[09:40] <dan_> Tm_T: yup....
[09:41] <dan_> tm_T: i couldnt sleep even if i wanted. so i tried to fix my sound. an finally this morning i fixed
[09:42] <Tm_T> heh
[09:44] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: have you tried running on vanilla kernel?
[09:45] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: err, why should I ?
[09:45] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: *shrug* just asking
[09:45] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: what do you like at Naruto? and.....what country are you from?
[09:46] <Tm_T> still having new enough, 2.6.15-13 I think
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: the character that I'm using as my nick.. and I'm in Australia.. born in Taiwan but lived most of my years in AUst
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: you?
[09:46] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm well, looks like I'm up the creek by myself then :/
[09:47] <hatake_kakashi> s/AUst/Aust
[09:47] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: :(
[09:47] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: what's your problem?
[09:47] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: well....i like bleach more, but at Naruto i like him because hes naughty and im from romania
[09:48] <Tm_T> dan_: what encoding you're using?
[09:48] <dan_> Tm_T: whats a encoding?
[09:48] <Tm_T> oh my...
[09:48] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: long story short: I salvaged another video card which is fairly different from the one I used, and kubuntu cannot load X because of different video driver. I got the latest Nvidia driver but then it says theres no kernel source, I get kernel source but it says my version is not 3.4. So now I'm stuck with option of getting vanilla kernel and building it to i686
[09:48] <dan_> Tm_T: i told tou im new in linux
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: heh I watched bleach, its ok
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: encoding is a method of translating the characters onto screen to make it viewable
[09:49] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: im a big fan of bleach
[09:49] <Tm_T> I see questionmarks
[09:49] <Tm_T> a lot
[09:49] <dan_> so how do i find aou what encoding  im using?
[09:49] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: odd, from dan_?
[09:49] <Tm_T> that's not good sign
[09:49] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: yes
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm, I'm on irssi and it displays well
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> I think I'm using nls_438
[09:50] <Tm_T> oh no
[09:50] <Tm_T> my irssi shows utf-8 and iso8859-1(5) just fine
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: not sure, depending on your irc client
[09:50] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm :/
[09:51] <hatake_kakashi> fsck.. I forgot how to make it show what enc I use
[09:51] <hatake_kakashi> on irssi
[09:51] <Tm_T> and this channel is pro utf-8
[09:51] <Tm_T>  /set recode_out_default_charset
[09:51] <Tm_T> if it's new enough
[09:52] <Hentai^XP> hatake_kakashi sup
[09:52] <hatake_kakashi> yeah, I don't have anything set with that Tm_T
[09:52] <hatake_kakashi> Hentai^XP: o.O you're here
[09:52] <Tm_T>  /set term_charset
[09:52] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: what that latter one says?
[09:52] <Tm_T> Hentai^XP: alo
[09:52] <Hentai^XP> hatake_kakashi yeah come into #kubuntu-offtopic sometimes man
[09:52] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: ISO8859-1
[09:52] <hatake_kakashi> Hentai^XP: lol will do :)
[09:53] <Hentai^XP> Tm_T hi
[09:53] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: so your output is that prolly
[09:53] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: write  and 
[09:53] <hatake_kakashi> &
[09:53] <hatake_kakashi> and
[09:53] <Tm_T> nope
[09:53] <Tm_T> :('
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> ?
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> you changed it and it still does not work?
[09:54] <Tm_T> I didn't change a thing
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> ok.. tbf I'm on those virtual console, I'm not on the GUI side
[09:54] <BellaBartok> can I install windows and linux on the same drive if I use partitions ?
[09:54] <hatake_kakashi> BellaBartok: yes
[09:54] <Hentai^XP> hatake_kakashi yeah I bugger the offtopic comunity abit
[09:55] <BellaBartok> linux or windows first ?
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> Hentai^XP: ahh I see
[09:55] <Tm_T> BellaBartok: doesn't matter
[09:55] <Hentai^XP> windows allways first in install order
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> BellaBartok: its better for windows first, because linux with GRUB can rub its magic
[09:55] <Hentai^XP> indeed
[09:55] <BellaBartok> ok thank u
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> or otherwise, you will have a fair bit of fun setting the boot order
[09:55] <hatake_kakashi> and/or settings
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: you on X?
[09:56] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: well well, why not ubuntu's nvidia drivers work?
[09:56] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: yes, but doesn't matter
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: nfi, maybe I need to do another apt-get I suppose :?
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> :/
[09:56] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: what card?
[09:56] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: well, some people don't like reading manuals :) so to make life somewhat easier, its best to install windows first and let GRUB do its job
[09:56] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: true
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: Geforce2 MX 64MB RAM
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> its AGP as well..
[09:57] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: haha, all you need is nvidia-legacy package
[09:57] <_christophe> hi, any parallel-scanner specialist here?
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm :/
[09:57] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: apt-cache search nvidia | grep legacy
[09:58] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: what I had before was nvidia TNT2 M64 PCI
[09:58] <Tm_T> ...what should use legacy drivers too
[10:00] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: try and inform how it goes
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: heh that worked with Hoary Hedgehog, I've dist upgraded to Breezy with some universe packages
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> and then I switched the video card
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> I think I might go do a wild run and install vanilla kernel instead :)
[10:01] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: you don't need to
[10:01] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: even if you compile drivers yourself, you don't need vanilla kernel
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: the nvidia driver is very very b*tchy, it needs to be i686 and has source
[10:03] <rohan> does anyone have working "system:media/: in kubuntu kde 3.5 packages ?
[10:03] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: hum, I compiled nvidia drivers in breezy
[10:03] <dan_> www.bleachtv.com
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> not I rohan
[10:03] <rohan> hatake_kakashi: ok..
[10:03] <rohan> its a problem :(
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: interesting, with the same kernel source and gcc4.0 or gcc3.4?
[10:04] <Tm_T> rohan: I do, though it doesn't help you ;)
[10:04] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: I compiled with gcc3.4 I think, though I do have 4.0 too
[10:04] <rohan> Tm_T: why not ? how did you get it working ?>
[10:04] <Tm_T> rohan: dapperdapperdapperdapper <3
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: hmm
[10:05] <rohan> Tm_T: dapper .. its too unstable for me :)
[10:05] <Tm_T> rohan: what I said
[10:06] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: you can CXX=gcc-3.4 make things
[10:06] <rohan> is there any way to play avi using xine, but not xine-ui ?
[10:06] <Tm_T> hmm, it was GCC I think
[10:06] <Tm_T> anyway
[10:07] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: still, you don't need to compile drivers, nor kernel
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> hm well I got gcc4.x
[10:08] <dan_> guys
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> and the kernel src with ubuntu patches requires 3.4
[10:08] <dan_> can anyone please tell me where can i get some linux games?
[10:08] <dan_> please
[10:08] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: sourceforge.net
[10:08] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: install 3.4 too
[10:09] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[10:09] <Zeusz> hello all
[10:09] <Tm_T> as you like...
[10:09] <Zeusz> can u please help
[10:09] <dan_> hatake_katashi: thx
[10:09] <rohan> Zeusz: we are here to help :)
[10:09] <Zeusz> my parrents turned off the keyboard somehow
[10:09] <Zeusz> and I can't turn it on
[10:09] <Tm_T> !help
[10:09] <rohan> Zeusz: restart the computer.
[10:10] <Zeusz> with some combination
[10:10] <Zeusz> thid that
[10:10] <Zeusz> the same
[10:10] <Zeusz> I'm under windows now
[10:10] <Tm_T> keyboard off?
[10:10] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: there is a game called tuxracer
[10:10] <rohan> Zeusz: is it a laptop ?
[10:10] <Zeusz> it doesn't recognize what I write
[10:10] <Tm_T> hatake_kakashi: nah it planet penguin racer nowdays
[10:10] <rohan> Zeusz: does the keyboard work in windows ?
[10:10] <Tm_T> it's
[10:10] <dan_> hatake_katashi: ill try it
[10:10] <Zeusz> only alt-ctrl-del works
[10:10] <Zeusz> rohan it does
[10:11] <Zeusz> it's just turned off
[10:11] <Zeusz> disabled
[10:11] <rohan> Zeusz: only alt-ctrl-del works --> in ubuntu ?
[10:11] <Zeusz> yes
[10:11] <Zeusz> that does
[10:11] <rohan> strange .. very strange.
[10:11] <rohan> Zeusz: restarting the pc does not help ?
[10:11] <Zeusz> no
[10:11] <rohan> Zeusz: i am not aware of any combination that "turns off" the keyboard.
[10:12] <rohan> Zeusz: is it a laptop ?
[10:12] <Zeusz> no
[10:12] <Zeusz> it's a desktop
[10:12] <Zeusz> isn't there any combination related to the keyboard ?
[10:12] <Zeusz> i use Kubuntu
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> Tm_T: cool
[10:12] <Zeusz> with kde 3.5
[10:12] <hatake_kakashi> dan_: there's also AlephOne, etc
[10:13] <sampan> is it just the session is locked?
[10:13] <Zeusz> no I can work with the mouse
[10:13] <Zeusz> it does everithing
[10:13] <Zeusz> only no keyboard
[10:13] <Zeusz> just the combinations
[10:13] <Zeusz> like Virtual terminal
[10:14] <Zeusz> ctrl alt F1
[10:14] <rohan> Zeusz: a vt would be useless, you wouldnt be able to login, right ?
[10:14] <Zeusz> the vt works
[10:14] <Zeusz> there the keyboard works
[10:14] <rohan> fully ?
[10:15] <Zeusz> yes
[10:15] <rohan> then i'd say restart X
[10:15] <rohan> i have that problem many times.
[10:15] <Zeusz> i restarted the computer
[10:15] <Zeusz> 3 times
[10:15] <Zeusz> the same
[10:15] <rohan> hmm..
[10:15] <Zeusz> problem
[10:15] <rohan> Zeusz: ask in #ubuntu ? there maybe more people there, and it does not look like a kde problem
[10:16] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: i downloaded tuxracer. now what should i do to install it?
[10:16] <dan_> a
[10:16] <dan_> a
[10:16] <dan_> s
[10:17] <Zeusz> isn't there any command
[10:17] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: i downloaded tuxracer. how do i install it?
[10:17] <rohan> Zeusz: no, nothing that disables the keyboard in this way.
[10:18] <Zeusz> it just ignores
[10:18] <Zeusz> the command
[10:18] <dan_> hatake_kakashi: i downloaded tuxracer. how do i install it??
[10:18] <rohan> Zeusz: your parents dont remember what they pressed ?
[10:18] <dan_> can anyone tell me please how do i install a game?
[10:19] <Zeusz> now
[10:19] <Zeusz> *now
[10:19] <Zeusz> *no they can't
[10:19] <rohan> :(] 
 Turn off keyboard raw mode
[10:19] <Zeusz> what is the keyboard raw mode ?
[10:19] <Zeusz> http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie5_1.htm
[10:20] <dan_> please help me guys. i downloaded a .tar.gz arhive. its a game. does anyone now how to install it/???????
[10:20] <Zeusz> oh
[10:20] <Tm_T> dan_: untar it and read README
[10:21] <dan_> Tm_T: thx ill try
[10:21] <rohan> dan_: tar zxvf FILE.tar.gz ... and read
[10:22] <sampan> i'd bet tuxracer is in the repos ....
[10:22] <Zeusz> rohan if I would delete the kde settings ?
[10:22] <Zeusz> wouldn't it help ?
[10:22] <rohan> Zeusz: i dont know, try it. but kde can never mess up so much...
[10:23] <Zeusz> where are thoes ?
[10:23] <Zeusz> where does kubuntu store them
[10:23] <dan_> <!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Strict//EN" "DTD/xhtml1-strict.dtd">
[10:23] <dan_> <html xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml">

[10:23] <dan_> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8" />
[10:23] <dan_> <meta name="Generator" content="Kate, the KDE Advanced Text Editor" />
[10:23] <rohan> Zeusz: rm -r ~/.kde
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[10:23] <sampan> O/o
[10:23] <dan_>                                   Tux Racer
[10:24] <dan_>                         A Sunspire Studios Production
[10:24] <dan_> 
[10:24] <dan_>                                 Version 0.61
[10:24] <fatejudger> If I change my graphics card from an NVIDIA FX 5200 to an ATI 9600 is Kubuntu going to freak out?
[10:24] <dan_>                    Copyright (C) 1999-2001 Jasmin F. Patry
[10:24] <dan_>                         &lt;jfpatry@sunspirestudios.com&gt;
[10:24] <dan_> Tux Racer documentation, including full installation instructions and
[10:24] <dan_> manual, can be found at http://www.tuxracer.com.  A copy of the
[10:24] <rohan> Zeusz: BINGO !!
[10:24] <dan_> web site (excluding screenshots) is included in the html directory.
[10:24] <dan_> No Warranty
[10:24] <rohan> Zeusz: your parents pressed ALT-SYSRQ-R
[10:24] <dan_> -----------
[10:24] <dan_> Tux Racer comes with ABSOLUTELY NO WARRANTY.  See the COPYING file for
[10:24] <dan_> details.</pre></body>

[10:24] <dan_> thats all the readme says
[10:24] <dan_> what should i do?
[10:24] <rohan> Zeusz: i tried it just now, it has exactly the effect you described.
[10:24] <Zeusz> well I tryed
[10:25] <fatejudger> dan_: you should use pastebin
[10:25] <Tm_T> dan_: read topic
[10:25] <Zeusz> but how to activate again ?
[10:25] <rohan> Zeusz: err... now i am screwed too ? ;)
[10:25] <dan_> yeah i knoe
[10:25] <dan_> but can tou please help me ?
[10:25] <fatejudger> has anyone used Flight 3 yet?
[10:25] <dan_> tell me pleae hoe to install this game
[10:25] <Zeusz> should I press Again ?
[10:25] <rohan> Zeusz: no.
[10:25] <rohan> Zeusz: do this.
[10:25] <Zeusz> what ?
[10:25] <rohan> Zeusz: switch to a vt, alt-ctrl-f1, and then back to X. it solved the problem for me.
[10:26] <Zeusz> welll
[10:26] <Tm_T> dan_: apr-get install tuxracer
[10:26] <picochu> hehe how about SLI 7800? :)
[10:26] <Tm_T> apt
[10:26] <Zeusz> i have another problem
[10:26] <Zeusz> when I switch back to x
[10:26] <Zeusz> kde crashes
[10:26] <dan_> Tm_T: in konsole?
[10:26] <Zeusz> with some lines in the top
[10:26] <rohan> Zeusz: err...
[10:26] <rohan> Zeusz: that doesnt happen to me
[10:26] <Zeusz> I know
[10:27] <Zeusz> can't imagine what is causing it
[10:27] <Tm_T> dan_: sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[10:27] <Tm_T> dan_: in konsole
[10:27] <Tm_T> dan_: OR use any gui app, like adept or synaptic
[10:28] <Zeusz> well lets try deleting the .kde
[10:28] <DjDarkman> hy ,what fstab options do i have to give to a cd/dvd drive to make it mount/unmontable to all users?
[10:28] <Tm_T> Zeusz: move it
[10:28] <Tm_T> Zeusz: so you have a backup
[10:28] <Zeusz> what is the command ?
[10:28] <Zeusz> i'll rename it
[10:29] <Zeusz> what is the command to renaming files
[10:29] <rohan> Zeusz: can you please post that link again ?
[10:29] <dan_> Tm_T: thx man. its installing it right now(tuxracer. i own tou one dude
[10:29] <Zeusz> http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie5_1.htm
[10:29] <rohan> Zeusz: those alt-sysrq things are _bad_ .. my machine rebooted :(
[10:30] <Zeusz> yes it's evil :)
[10:30] <Zeusz> ups
[10:30] <Zeusz> that's not the link
[10:30] <Zeusz> http://linux.about.com/od/linux101/l/blnewbie5_1.htm
[10:30] <Zeusz> this is the good one
[10:30] <rohan> ah, ok.
[10:30] <dan_> rohan: try enterin safe mode, logging in as root or try installing linux again from BIOS
[10:31] <rohan> dan_: why ? linux is working perfectly.
[10:31] <dan_> rohan: then whats the problem?
[10:31] <DjDarkman> someone knwos the fstab option that makes the device mountable to all users?
[10:31] <Zeusz> I have the problem
[10:31] <Zeusz> his just helping me
[10:31] <Zeusz> :)
[10:31] <dan_> DjDarkman: winmac_fstab?
[10:32] <dan_> oh
[10:32] <dan_> so whats the problem
[10:32] <DjDarkman> no no dan_ i need it for my cd/dvd drive
[10:32] <dan_> oh
[10:32] <dan_> dan DjDarkman, ive got no idea. try in #kde or #ubuntu
[10:33] <Zeusz> anything usefull rohan ?
[10:34] <rohan> Zeusz: no, except i have to reiserfsck my ubuntu partition :(
[10:34] <Zeusz> why ?
[10:37] <Zeusz> well back to linux
[10:37] <Zeusz> let's try some stuff
[10:39] <dan_> Tm_T: i have a big question. i installed a game but i doesnt work very well. can tou please tell me how to uninstall it?
[10:39] <Tm_T> dan_: you did install, just do uninstall same way
[10:40] <dan_> Tm_T: how?
[10:40] <dan_> Tm_T: i installed it using that command you gave me
[10:41] <dan_> Tm_T: please help me man
[10:41] <Tm_T> dan_: install -> uninstall
[10:41] <Tm_T> you can think yourself too ;)
[10:41] <Tm_T> man apt-get
[10:42] <Tm_T> to find out how to use that powertool
[10:42] <dan_> Tm_T: but i forgot the command you gave me
[10:42] <Tm_T> dan_: you can scroll in your client, right?
[10:42] <dan_> Tm_T: i dunno. im new in linux
[10:42] <Tm_T> dan_: you can
[10:42] <dan_> Tm_T: how?
[10:44] <dan_> Tm_T: please tell me if you know
[10:45] <dan_> Tm_T: or at least tell me that command you gave me earlier
[10:45] <dan_> Tm_T: never mind
[10:46] <dan_> Tm_T: sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer
[10:46] <dan_> Tm_T: thats the command
[10:46] <Slaphappy> does anyone know where to get kubuntu packages for metabar 0.8
[10:46] <dan_> Tm_T: how do i uninstall
[10:46] <Slaphappy> tryied with debian packages without success
[10:47] <Tm_T> dan_: let me ask one thing first, your age?
[10:47] <dan_> 14
[10:48] <dan_> please tell me man
[10:48] <Tm_T> how I knew... well well
[10:48] <Tm_T> sudo apt-get install planetpenguin-racer -> there's install right? how about change it to uninstall?
[10:48] <Tm_T> too simple?
[10:49] <dan_> i tried
[10:49] <Tm_T> and?
[10:49] <dan_> it doesnt work
[10:49] <Tm_T> how it doesn't work?
[10:49] <Tm_T> and use pastebin
[10:49] <Tm_T> ah! remove
[10:49] <Slaphappy> apt-get unistall planetpenguin-racer
[10:49] <Tm_T> no uninstall but remove
[10:50] <Tm_T> I repeat, man apt-get ;)
[10:50] <Tm_T> ->
[10:50] <Slaphappy> are many of you are using kbfx?
[11:45] <benlue> Die rzte - Satanische Pferde.rar konnte nicht geffndet werden
[11:45] <benlue> Archivtyp nicht untersttzt.
[11:47] <Paradox^> /join #ubuntu.se
[11:47] <Paradox^> :/
[11:50] <wijnands> is there any documentation on installing kubuntu? I can't find any?
[11:52] <Slaphappy> need help plz.... i get this error when i try to compile error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[11:53] <Slaphappy> what should i install more
[11:53] <Slaphappy> i have installed gcc cpp and other compilators
[11:53] <Paradox^> Slaphappy: try: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6104490811311898236&q=ubuntu
[11:54] <Slaphappy> hmm will look there... thanks
[11:55] <sorush20> my video playback is jumpy what do I do?
[12:07] <dan_> hi all
[12:08] <robotgeek> hey dan_
[12:08] <nlindblad> hi dan_
[12:08] <dan_> whats up?
[12:09] <dan_> sup guys?
[12:10] <Hentai^XP> sup dan_
[12:10] <dan_> nothing special
[12:10] <dan_> so?
[12:11] <dan_> doesnt anyone need some help
[12:11] <dan_> im bored
[12:11] <dan_> does any of tou know where i can get counter-strike for linux?
[12:12] <Hentai^XP> you can't
[12:12] <dan_> isnt there a ste?
[12:12] <dan_> whi cant i?
[12:12] <Hentai^XP> you'll have to do CS though wine or cedge or w\e that is called
[12:12] <Hentai^XP> I haven
[12:13] <Hentai^XP> I haven't seen a binary for the game on linux yet
[12:13] <dan_> well
[12:13] <dan_> i have lots of games
[12:13] <dan_> i have quake3, doom3, world of warcraft and much more
[12:13] <dan_> but i need CS
[12:14] <Hentai^XP> q3, d3 have linux versions
[12:14] <Hentai^XP> CS don't think so
[12:14] <dan_> no
[12:14] <dan_> it has
[12:14] <Hentai^XP> most likely you will need wine or cedage w\e that thing is called
[12:14] <dan_> ive seen i once
[12:14] <Hentai^XP> dan_ it does?
[12:15] <dan_> what is that?
[12:15] <Hentai^XP> I highly doubt it
[12:15] <Hentai^XP> I think though your talking the server
[12:28] <EightiesK> hello
[12:30] <robotgeek> hey EightiesK
[12:33] <EightiesK> hi
[12:34] <robotgeek> do you need help with something?
[12:34] <EightiesK> yes
[12:34] <robotgeek> go ahead, i'll see if can help you
[12:34] <EightiesK> i wanna install Kubuntu do i need to uninstall ubuntu first?
[12:35] <robotgeek> no, just install "kubuntu-desktop"
[12:35] <owner> you will have to chose if you want to keep gdm or use kdm
[12:35] <owner> though
[12:36] <robotgeek> a simple "sudo dpkg-reconfigure gdm" will do that :)
[12:36] <EightiesK> i can't get ubuntu to work.
[12:36] <robotgeek> EightiesK: hmm, what did not work?
[12:36] <Mez> EightiesK, try giving us more info first ;)
[12:36] <EightiesK> i get fatal IO  error 104
[12:36] <owner> is kdm or gdm better if you want to use gnome and kde
[12:36] <EightiesK> and i'ma  linux noob
[12:37] <EightiesK> i dunno how to veiw the log as i was asked 2 or ne thing.
[12:37] <Mez> owner: both are pretty much the same
[12:37] <robotgeek> owner: doesn't really matter
[12:37] <owner> gdm lets you pick language on start
[12:37] <robotgeek> i use gdm, cause i hit enter during my install :)
[12:37] <owner> if thats important
[12:37] <robotgeek> hmm, interesting
[12:38] <robotgeek> EightiesK: is this while booting up?
[12:38] <EightiesK> yes then i get a cmdline
[12:38] <EightiesK> like dos.
[12:38] <EightiesK> xserver won't start.
[12:39] <robotgeek> EightiesK: the logs will be at /var/log/Xorg, but i think you will have difficuly posting it
[12:39] <robotgeek> EightiesK, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:39] <owner> eighties sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[12:40] <owner> type that
[12:41] <EightiesK> ok
[12:41] <EightiesK> but then what do i type?
[12:41] <EightiesK> i dunno how to make my self a super user.
[12:42] <robotgeek> EightiesK: just type _your_ password
[12:42] <EightiesK> thats the error i get after i type the password in
[12:42] <EightiesK> (must be a super user)
[12:43] <owner> type your user password
[12:43] <owner> with sudo commands
[12:43] <EightiesK> whats a sudo comand exactly?
[12:43] <owner> select vesa drier
[12:43] <owner> driver
[12:43] <owner> sudo gives lets users use root commands
[12:44] <owner> without logging into root
[12:44] <EightiesK> ok.
[12:44] <EightiesK> how long will you be here?
[12:44] <EightiesK> i wanna try it out.
[12:44] <EightiesK> noone every replyed in the forums.
[12:44] <EightiesK> and its been 3 days
[12:44] <EightiesK> i wanna try it out
[12:45] <owner> ill be here
[12:45] <EightiesK> :-)
[12:57] <izzy> Little question: Since my upgrade hoary -> breezy, some characters are no longer reachable from my keyboard (e.g. the Euro-sign and the pipe) in KDE. I use German layout (with US layout it works). I do not believe I am the only one with this problem :) Any solutions?
[01:00] <EightiesK> hello
[01:00] <izzy> EightiesK: Yepp, same question ;)
[01:00] <EightiesK> lol
[01:01] <izzy> 142 users here, but most seem to sleep...
[01:01] <EightiesK> what do i download to get kde on ubuntu?
[01:01] <arrinmurr> EightiesK: kubuntu-desktop
[01:01] <izzy> You already have ubuntu installed?
[01:01] <owner> did you get ubuntu working eighties
[01:01] <EightiesK> yeah.
[01:01] <EightiesK> :-)
[01:02] <izzy> Ooops...
[01:02] <EightiesK> i just dunno how to dl Xchat for it.
[01:02] <owner> try synpatic eighties
[01:02] <EightiesK> what version do i need?
[01:02] <owner> synaptic
[01:02] <izzy> Can anybody help me with a little keyboard prob in breezy? Some keys do not work...
[01:02] <EightiesK> i don't see ubuntu listed.
[01:03] <izzy> ...but they did with hoary...
[01:03] <EightiesK> belive it or not ubuntu was stumped.
[01:03] <EightiesK> (the irc)
[01:04] <EightiesK> hey izzy
[01:05] <EightiesK> when u download programs what distro do you dl them for?
[01:09] <DjDarkman> hy , i get an error that says that the root partition / is mounted read only ,what do i do?
[01:10] <EightiesK> honestly i dunno
[01:11] <EightiesK> owner, i have ubuntu version 5.04 if i install kubuntu 5.10 will it over write?
[01:12] <hara__> can anyone confirm that ubuntuforums.org is down
[01:12] <owner> you can upgrade hoary to breezy
[01:12] <EightiesK> how?
[01:12] <owner> if you just replace the sources.list
[01:12] <ronino> hi
[01:12] <owner> with breezy sources
[01:12] <EightiesK> where do i get them?
[01:13] <kosh> just edit /etc/apt/sources.list and change hoary to breezy
[01:13] <ronino> i want to get my flash running, but i don't get it, "sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla" doesn't work, it yields "can't find package"
[01:13] <ronino> what to do?
[01:13] <kosh> then sudo apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:13] <kosh> that should do it
[01:13] <arrinmurr> hara__: yeah, it's been down for some time
[01:14] <kosh> after the upgrade you will probably want to reboot and that is only since the kernel will be upgraded also
[01:14] <hara__> arrinmurr: ok, thanks
[01:14] <DjDarkman>  i get an error that says that the root partition / is mounted read only ,what do i do?
[01:14] <owner> eighties http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:14] <ronino> kosh: nope, i did that, but doesn't work
[01:14] <kosh> ronino: could you define "doesn't work" ?
[01:14] <owner> to edit sources.list then type sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:15] <ronino> kosh: those commands run fine and update the system, but the flash-plugin can't  be find afterwards, too
[01:15] <owner> then you have to do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:15] <kosh> oh that was how to upgrade hoary to breezy
[01:15] <kosh> no idea about the flash thing
[01:15] <kosh> I don't allow flash on any machine on the network
[01:16] <ronino> hmm
[01:17] <EightiesK> then how do i install kde?
[01:17] <EightiesK> or kubuntu?
[01:17] <EightiesK> lol
[01:17] <owner> you can type sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[01:18] <EightiesK> k
[01:18] <EightiesK> brb
[01:24] <EightieK> abck.
[01:24] <EightieK> back
[01:25] <EightieK> how do i make my self the owner so i can change permissions?
[01:36] <dan_> hi all
[01:36] <dan_> sup?
[01:37] <EightieK> how would u make my self owner or root so i could edit my permissions?
[01:37] <dark_suic> EightieK, sudo chown new-user file
[01:37] <dark_suic> where new-user is the user you want to "give" the file
[01:38] <owner> eighties did you manage to install kde
[01:38] <owner> or upgrade to breezy
[01:38] <EightieK> no
[01:39] <EightieK> the site u gave me was invalid.
[01:39] <owner> http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:39] <owner> its working for me...
[01:42] <EightieK> it loaded now...
[01:43] <EightieK> dark_suic, it said invalis user.
[01:43] <EightieK> invalaid*
[01:43] <EightieK> owner, what do i want to choose?
[01:43] <dark_suic> EightieK, what is the EXACT error????
[01:43] <owner> if you want to upgrade to breezy select all the breezy sources
[01:43] <dark_suic> if your user is EightieK you should write sudo chown EightieK file_you_want_to_change
[01:44] <owner> or use hoary if u want to keep 5.04
[01:44] <owner> then sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[01:44] <owner> and replace with new file generated
[01:46] <izzy> Maybe somebody can help me with some Breezy KDE Prob:
[01:46] <izzy> After dist-upgrade from hoary, some keys do not work, e.g. Pipe and "at". I have German layout.
[01:47] <owner> just select german keyboard in kde settings
[01:48] <izzy> I did that. Using multiple keyboard layouts, including German and Russian.
[01:48] <izzy> Worked fine with hoary -- but with breezy, I can no longer select "include latin layout" (which I had anabled before)
[01:49] <owner> izzy try
[01:49] <owner> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:49] <dan_> owner: remember me? you tried to fix my sound
[01:49] <owner> hi dan
[01:49] <dan_> owner: that uptade you said i should take....it didnt work
[01:50] <owner> which update
[01:50] <dan_> owner: but i fixed it
[01:50] <owner> how?
[01:50] <dan_> owner: there where some packages and sources
[01:50] <EightieK> so the source list means i'm upgraded to breezy?
[01:51] <dan_> owner: i dunno! a guy...DeadS0ul...he told me a couple of konsole commands and he fixed it. im listening to music right now
[01:51] <owner> eighties, after you have saved new sources.list
[01:51] <owner> then do sudo apt-get update
[01:51] <owner> in terminal
[01:51] <dan_> yes
[01:51] <owner> then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:51] <dan_> but it didnt work
[01:52] <izzy> owner: just trying...
[01:53] <owner> any luck
[01:53] <EightieK> 0 upgraded 0 to remove 0 not upgraded?
[01:53] <EightieK> is that right?
[01:54] <owner> no
[01:55] <owner> did you select breezy sources?
[01:55] <EightieK> ya
[01:55] <owner> that site should have opened a text file for you
[01:58] <EightieK> i fixed it
[01:59] <EightieK> W: GPG error: http://kubuntu.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY A506E6D4DD4D5088
[01:59] <EightieK> W: GPG error: http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl breezy-seveas Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 49A120FD1135D466
[01:59] <EightieK> W: GPG error: http://koti.mbnet.fi breezy/ Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY E8DDB29170188C3B
[01:59] <EightieK> W: GPG error: ftp://cipherfunk.org breezy Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 4CF19C3233BAC1B3
[01:59] <EightieK> :-(
[01:59] <kosh> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-keyring
[01:59] <kosh> I think that is right it should have the gpg keys you need for breezy
[02:00] <apokryphos_> EightieK: do not paste in here
[02:00] <EightieK> sorry
[02:00] <EightieK> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), are you root?
[02:00] <EightieK> oops
[02:00] <EightieK> i tryed to send it to kosh.
[02:01] <izzy> owner: xorg.conf looks the same as before
[02:03] <EightieK> owner, ?
[02:03] <EightieK> are you there?
[02:06] <owner> yes
[02:09] <lewnidas_> /j #ubuntu-gr
[02:24] <segfault2k> hi
[02:25] <segfault2k> why when i download a .deb with konqueror it opens with kate?
[02:34] <superbnerb> hi all
[02:36] <superbnerb> just installed kubuntu onto my laptop, but now i can't get kdm to start. and it boots into console mode only?
[02:36] <superbnerb> when i installed i 'turned off' acpi.
[02:36] <superbnerb> any thoughts?
[02:41] <vge> segfault2k: change it in KDE Components>File Assosiations
[02:42] <segfault2k> i know
[02:42] <segfault2k> but its fine there
[02:44] <vge> if it's fine in there, then i cant help
[02:45] <segfault2k> thanks btw
[02:46] <vge> if *.deb and *.DEB files are only opened with Adept or  Synaptic and its the highest on the list
[02:46] <johannes> hmm, wie bekomme ich Menleisten wieder, die ich ber den entsprechenden Menpunkt deaktiviert habe? >.< is vielleicht ne blde Option :p
[02:47] <johannes> oj, english? sorry, how do I make my menu viewable again, once I disabled it? e.g. amarok
[02:48] <segfault2k> alt m
[02:48] <segfault2k> alt + m
[02:48] <johannes> segfault2k: almost :D it's ctrl-m but thanks :D
[02:48] <segfault2k> xD
[02:48] <segfault2k> right
[02:49] <segfault2k> well u understand it
[02:49] <segfault2k> hahah
[02:49] <johannes> segfault2k: at least for me ctrl worked. alt just lets me searach ^^ ok, mate thanks for the help :)
[02:50] <johannes> useful shortcut :)
[03:06] <nlindblad> 20GiB Kubuntu seeded :)
[03:31] <gianni> buona domenica a voi
[03:31] <segfault2k> good sunday
[03:31] <segfault2k> xD
[03:31] <RanX> no one italian?
[03:34] <nlindblad> good sunday
[03:46] <_root> hello
[03:46] <EightiesK> how are yaw
[03:46] <EightiesK> ?
[03:47] <EightiesK> ne1 here?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> ?
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> btw, you should _never_ surf the web as root
[03:49] <nlindblad> EightiesK: please don't IRC as root
[03:50] <EightiesK> it was deafult
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> surfing on the net as root is like.. "hi all! please hack me! if you hack me you can stuff my whole system up!"
[03:51] <EightiesK> i just installed.
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> it should have asked you about creating an user account
[03:51] <hatake_kakashi> if not, you should be able to create one via adduser
[03:54] <LeeJunFan> Once I had not realized a system I was working on someone had logged in as root, I visited a webpage that expoited a java weakness in netscape (years ago), and changed my rootpass. Luckilly that's all.
[03:58] <EightiesK> is there ne way to have both kde and gnome on the same install of ubuntu?
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> EightiesK: yeah, just install them both.
[03:59] <LeeJunFan> EightiesK: install ubuntu-desktop and kubuntu-desktop, or whichever one you don't have.
[04:02] <EightiesK> how would you switch back and forth?
[04:02] <EightiesK> LeeJunFan: how would you switch back and forth?
[04:02] <Zappa> you select your session from the drop down on the login page in gdm/kdm
[04:03] <EightiesK> oh kool.
[04:09] <hatake_kakashi> whats the program to configure Xorg config files with ease?
[04:10] <hatake_kakashi> it used to be something like XF86Config for XF86? but I can't seem to find it :/
[04:21] <hawking>  what should i do to allow incoming ssh connections to my computer?
[04:23] <segfault2k> look at /etc/hosts.deny
[04:23] <segfault2k> and comment every line
[04:23] <segfault2k> #
[04:23] <LeeJunFan> segfault2k, maybe jumping the gun :)
[04:23] <LeeJunFan> do you have openssh-server installed?
[04:24] <segfault2k> ahh
[04:24] <vge> hawking:  apt-get install openssh-server
[04:24] <segfault2k> XD
[04:24] <segfault2k> first is the first
[04:24] <hawking> vge : let me see
[04:24] <LeeJunFan> segfault2k believes the egg came first :p
[04:25] <vge> hawking: then edit  /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[04:25] <hawking> vge : ok thanx
[04:25] <segfault2k> LeeJunFan: haha
[04:25] <segfault2k> ll
[04:25] <segfault2k> lol
[04:25] <vge> for some basics, but when installed, the server starts and it shoud be connectable
[04:28] <jerris> anybody can provide help with mplayer
[04:28] <jerris> ?
[04:30] <segfault2k> ask
[04:33] <jerris> i cannot view my avis in full scren
[04:34] <jerris> when i try to activate full screen the extra display area is not utilised... so it ends up lookin like a picture frame on a black wall
[04:37] <jerris> brb
[04:39] <rance> its still morning here, so good morning everyone
[04:40] <Slaphappy> can anyone tell me the name of xorg devel package... what is the name when i search in apt-get
[04:41] <segfault2k> x-window-system-dev
[04:41] <Slaphappy> thanx!
[04:41] <segfault2k> yw
[04:42] <SkrotFFS> Hi. If I wish to compile my own kernel, how can I keep the kubuntu splash screen on startup
[04:43] <rance> after experimenting with kubuntu for several weeks, I finally decided it was time to do away with dual boot, so I reformatted the hard drive, got rid of windows, and am completely kubuntu on this machine, and its cool
[04:43] <rance> but I think I got rid of windows prematurely, there is one software program I used on windows, that I cant seem to find on linux
[04:44] <segfault2k> what program?
[04:44] <vge> yes, for some software i keep my 5Gb windows installation ready
[04:44] <rance> I want something that will invoice customers, it can track customers, invoices and payments, but I dont need the anything else, no inventory
[04:45] <segfault2k> what is the window version of that soft?
[04:45] <segfault2k> name
[04:45] <vge> what you used in windows for that?
[04:45] <rance> I the software was from a company called MySoftware, and the name of it was My Deluxe Invoices and Estimates
[04:46] <segfault2k> and you tried to install it with cxoffice?
[04:46] <rance> it was great, simple, clean, and just what I needed, and the cheapest commerical software program I ever used, bought it retail (at the full retail price, for less then $20 dollars
[04:47] <rance> no, I havent tried to install it on linux yet, was willing to try wine, but since Ive always been a dual booter till now, I never used wine, or cxoffice
[04:49] <rance> its a windows /95/98 program, so it should probably work in wine, I would think expecially since all the system calls go back to 95
[04:52] <rance> I seem to be having one other problem with how kubuntu operates, it seems either konqeror, or kde (i'm not sure which) wants to automount any cd I put in the cdrom drive, but most of the cds are music and linux doesnt "mount" those, and it causes problems when I want to eject the cd, so does anyone know how I turn off cdrom automount, and where?
[04:55] <_gado> can you tell me
[04:55] <_gado> teh hungarian channel?
[04:57] <misiek> hi, what is KDE the only difference between ubuntu and kubuntu?
[04:57] <GADO> can you tell me please the hungarian channel
[05:01] <tvo> misiek: yes
[05:03] <andrzej> somebody are from poland?
[05:03] <misiek> i speak polish
[05:11] <andrzej> misiek you speak polish but are you from poland?
[05:14] <humboldt> how can I make konqueror pass on the link to azureus instead of downloading the torrent file and passing the location of this file on to azureus?
[05:16] <HeadUp`> not an et.merc for the moment
[05:17] <misiek> im from poland. im not located in poland
[05:18] <DingoMan> hello
[05:18] <DingoMan> am i wrong or theres no wine package for amd64 kubuntu?
[05:30] <Thikor1> hallo zusammen
[05:32] <Thikor1> kan mir jemanden helfen?
[05:33] <sudabeh> hallo
[05:33] <sudabeh> hello
[05:33] <sudabeh> bay
[05:33] <Thikor1> hallo sudabeh
[05:38] <ryanakca> anyone know why I'm getting errors when I run "sudo apt-get install setiathome"?
[05:38] <wimpies> when I try to use k3b as a regular user my /dev/sg0 (dvd-rw) device is 660 root.root.  I think it should be root.cdrom.  How can I set this right permantly because after reboot rights are reset to root.root
[05:39] <wimpies> ryanakca : anybody knows WHAT error you get ?
[05:39] <ryanakca> Connecting to alien.ssl.berkeley.edu|128.32.18.176|:21... connected.
[05:39] <ryanakca> Logging in as anonymous ...
[05:39] <ryanakca> Login incorrect.
[05:39] <ryanakca> dpkg: error processing setiathome (--configure): subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[05:39] <wimpies> probably password problems ?
[05:39] <wimpies> perhaps you should register and create an account ?
[05:39] <ryanakca> I've realised that... but how do you go by fixing it
[05:40] <wimpies> donno, never used setiathome : perhaps google is your friend ?
[05:40] <ryanakca> it is
[05:41] <ryanakca> sadly, ubuntu forums are down...
[05:43] <kar> ^^
[05:44] <GameOver> hey guys i have a question.... i have set up ndiswrapper properly and get it to work... and i have put it in the interfaces file so that it boots up... but in order to enable to work i have to type in dhclient wlan0 in the terminal everytime
[05:44] <GameOver> anyway i can fix this... so it definately starts up every time without this?
[05:48] <Burgy> hi everyone
[05:52] <SkrotFFS> Do I need to update grub after adding something? And if I do, how do I do it? :)
[05:52] <Burgy> what do you mean y add something? an operating system?
[05:52] <SkrotFFS> A new kernel
[05:52] <Burgy> yeah, you'll have to add it to the grub config
[05:52] <SkrotFFS> I've added bootinfo for it
[05:53] <SkrotFFS> I've done that, but I remember with lilo you had to run /sbin/lilo when you did that, is there something similar for grub?
[05:53] <Burgy> in /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:53] <SkrotFFS> yupp
[05:53] <Burgy> no
[05:53] <SkrotFFS> okay
[05:53] <SkrotFFS> Rebooting then :)
[05:53] <Burgy> good luck ;)
[05:53] <SkrotFFS> Thanks ;)
[05:54] <superbnerb_> GameOver, i have had to do the same for a year.
[05:55] <superbnerb_> GameOver, i've heard about using ifconfig and setting up a file for wlan0  but i've had no luck with it
[05:55] <mathias> Hi
[05:55] <GameOver> superbnerb... ahh crap :(
[05:56] <mathias> I'm looking for a way to get Automatix for Kubuntu, now that ubuntuforums.org seems to be down..
[05:56] <GameOver> anyone know how to get sound working automatically with OSS...... this wawy i dont ahve to type in soundon in the terminall all the time?
[05:58] <Burgy> you could add "soundon" to your boot up scripts
[05:58] <Burgy> where exactly I forget...
[05:59] <mathias> Could someone give me the repository adresses for Automatix and backports?
[05:59] <mathias> I can't find them now ubuntuforums.org is down
[06:01] <mathias> is ANYONE able to get ubuntuforums working?
[06:02] <dandielionous> I haven't tried mathias .
[06:02] <sas171> mathias: Yes
[06:03] <dandielionous> Let me check and see if I can get ubuntuforums to work.
[06:04] <karvr> i cant get on them
[06:04] <dandielionous> It's working for me mathias.
[06:04] <dandielionous> But I haven't tried to add anything.
[06:04] <dandielionous> I can just see the forums.
[06:11] <mathias> there it came :)
[06:11] <mathias> How ironic
[06:12] <mathias> i'm all annoyed and complains only to have it working 10 minutes later :)
[06:12] <mathias> see ya
[06:19] <ubuntu> ^1
[06:29] <Snake__> Does anyone know how to exit a single screen in irssi
[06:48] <ClayG> anyone ever build the "cantenna" or any antenna that can get wifi signals from decent
[06:55] <_dave> hey guys... i was wondering if anyone has any experiencing trying to get a Microsoft Wireless Optical Mouse 2.0 to work in Ubuntu correctly
[06:56] <_dave> mine seems to have a mind of its own, clicking randomly... and really useable
[07:02] <eva_> hi all I have just installed my kubuntu and I have some problems wih installing some addons which I am used to i.e. skype or krusader in both cases liqt3c102-mt is needed but I cannot find this ackege through adept. Does somebody know about quick solution?
[07:03] <rance> eva_, you probably need to add the universe, and multiverse package repositories to the adept search
[07:04] <rance> I dont know if you did that already
[07:04] <eva_> no I did not I will trz it now..
[07:07] <eva_> uhh and do you know the url? of the universe and multiverse package?
[07:10] <fyrmedic> How do I make a script that I wrote in "Kate" executable by the system in .KDE/Autostart as the script and not just open up in "Kste"?
[07:11] <fyrmedic> "Kat"
[07:11] <fyrmedic> lol
[07:11] <Zappa> in a terminal, chmod it +x
[07:11] <fyrmedic> I did that and it still just opens up in kate
[07:11] <fyrmedic> I even set the chmod to a+x
[07:12] <fyrmedic> do I need to do it in sudo
[07:13] <Zappa> try running it at the terminal
[07:13] <Zappa> see what it does
[07:13] <nalioth> ubotu: tell eva_ about repos
[07:14] <fyrmedic> Zappa: ok just a sec
[07:14] <Zappa> whats the linux equivalent of bsd's newfs
[07:15] <nalioth> Zappa: what is newfs ?
[07:16] <fyrmedic> Zappa: so when I run it at term with the ./ it does what it is supposed to. Do I need to set a path for it?
[07:16] <Zappa> formats filesystems
[07:17] <nalioth> Zappa: mkfs
[07:17] <Zappa> fyrmedic: i'm not sure why the gui is opening it in kate then
[07:17] <Zappa> nalioth: ah, right, thanks.
[07:18] <fyrmedic> Zappa: ok thanks. I'll dig around further. or just start it manually.
[07:18] <DexterF> hi
[07:18] <Zappa> hi
[07:19] <Zappa> fyrmedic: why do you need to run it through the gui anyway?
[07:19] <dan_> hi all
[07:19] <dan_> whats up
[07:19] <dan_> ?
[07:19] <dan_> how are tou guys?
[07:19] <dan_> *you
[07:19] <eva_> thanks all I am going trying other things with my new distro..  bye
[07:22] <Zappa> damnit
[07:22] <dan_> Zappa: whats the matter?
[07:23] <fyrmedic> Zappa: I don't, I want  it to run in the background. I wrote the script to start it in the background at startup of the gui.
[07:24] <fyrmedic> Zappa: the app is written for term mode anyway but I don't want to have to keep a term window in my gui open all the time that I have the app running since it is a background process.
[07:25] <Zappa> why are you using the autostart for the gui to execute it?
[07:25] <Zappa> why not start it with the system?
[07:25] <Zappa> dan_: i'm just getting infuriated trying to get guild wars to run under cedega using an ATI card
[07:26] <fyrmedic> because I am a newbie and haven't figured out how to start it with the system yet
[07:26] <Zappa> well my linux-specific knowledge is limited but for example on bsd you would just stick your shell scripts in /usr/local/etc/rc.d/
[07:26] <Zappa> i'm sure linux has an equivalent
[07:28] <fyrmedic> I looked into that and there are like 6 rc.d folders labeled rc1-6.d
[07:29] <Zappa> yeah i'm not quite sure how linux handles it
[07:29] <nalioth> Zappa: on linux it's /etc/init.d/<DROP SYMLINK HERE>
[07:29] <Zappa> there you go fyrmedic
[07:30] <fyrmedic> so how do i drop a symlink there? lol
[07:30] <dan_> ive got a kubuntu 5.04. does anyone now how can i install a game? it came as source
[07:30] <fyrmedic>  adept
[07:31] <dan_> please help me guys
[07:31] <fyrmedic> dan_: did you try adept
[07:31] <Zappa> dan: what game?
[07:32] <nalioth> fyrmedic: in a terminal, type "man ln"
[07:32] <dan_> fyrmedic: how do i do that?
[07:32] <dan_> Zappa: ive got tons of games
[07:32] <Zappa> yes, you are asking how to install a game
[07:32] <Zappa> specifically which game?
[07:32] <fyrmedic> dan_: did you install it with adept. that is the package download/installer that comes with kubuntu
[07:33] <dan_> fyrmedin: i dont know it. where do i fin it?
[07:34] <nalioth> dan_: what is the name of the game?
[07:34] <dan_> Zappa: im trying to install ultimatestunts
[07:35] <dan_> nalioth: ultimatestunts or stunt
[07:35] <dan_> nalioth: im not shore
[07:35] <nalioth> ubotu: tell dan_ about compile
[07:35] <dan_> nalioth: ive got it from www.sourceforge.net
[07:36] <fyrmedic> I just looked in adept and it isn't there.
[07:36] <nalioth> dan_: join me in #kubuntu-offtopic and i'll help you
[07:36] <dan_> nalioth: ok
[07:40] <cold> anyone know how you boot ubuntu from install disk ?
[07:41] <chadwick|359> as far as i know, that's only an option on the daily builds of dapper atm
[07:41] <eirejah> hello will the xorg.conf file show my vertical and horizontal refresh rates ?
[07:42] <chadwick|359> nope
[07:42] <eirejah> incorrect
[07:53] <larsivi> anyone installed the qt4 dev package (with linguist etc)?
[07:58] <larsivi> Riddell: linguist?
[08:00] <Riddell> larsivi: briefly
[08:02] <larsivi> Riddell: Firstly, it won't show up in my katapult, second it segfaults when running from console and I try to open a file
[08:02] <snowowl> Damn dude I switched to gnome for about a year after getting annoyed with KDEs brokeness. Now I install Kubuntu 5.10 and find that KDE really cleaned up its act and is one of the finest desktops I've ever used. Just FYI
[08:03] <larsivi> Riddell: I have a fairly clean breezy with 3.5
[08:03] <larsivi> hei SkrotFFS
[08:03] <SkrotFFS> hoi larsivi :)
[08:04] <larsivi> how does kubuntuing go, SkrotFFS?
[08:04] <SkrotFFS> larsivi: Kubuntu is great, ACPI and sound (APIC bug I think) is not, however :)
[08:05] <larsivi> SkrotFFS: my experience with ACPI is that it get's better from the 2.6.13 kernel
[08:06] <SkrotFFS> I'm running 2.6.15, and the problem appears to be related to Acer not following the ACPI standard or something like that :)
[08:07] <larsivi> ah
[08:08] <Riddell> larsivi: try removing libqt4-debug?
[08:12] <larsivi> Riddell: seems like the qt4-dev-tools package depends on it
[08:12] <larsivi> Riddell: adept crashed when I tried to convince it otherwise :)
[08:14] <JakubS> eh, damned ubuntu kernel with broken pcmcia
[08:16] <larsivi> Riddell: Can I force apt to not install a dependency, like libqt4-debug?
[08:17] <Riddell> not really
[08:17] <kuser> can anyone help me about one iptable rules?
[08:17] <Riddell> larsivi: you could try getting the qt4 from dapper and compiling that on breezy
[08:18] <larsivi> Riddell: thanks, I'll check out later
[08:20] <nlindblad> don't you use class with XHTML?
[08:20] <nlindblad> it refuses to work
[08:30] <cipi604> .
[08:31] <pir2> hey guyz
[08:32] <pir2> I knwo t might seem a bit audacious, but i'drequire some  help installing kubuntu :(
[08:32] <pir2> The installer gets stuck at Grub install...
[08:33] <pir2> The only google page that seems to have the answer (http://www.ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-75385.html) is down
[08:33] <pir2> so i'm kinda stuck :-
[08:33] <pir2> :-(
[08:33] <dcode> pir2 what you stuck on?
[08:34] <dcode> ah...SATA
[08:34] <pir2> it's cause of SATA ?
[08:34] <pir2> damnit !
[08:34] <dcode> no...I don't know what your problem is
[08:34] <pir2> any work around
[08:34] <pir2> oh ok
[08:34] <dcode> I just googled that link
[08:35] <dcode> so what is your problem?
[08:36] <pir2> Well it gets stuck at the grub part during the install
[08:37] <lpfan> can someone help a newbie install java
[08:37] <eightiesk> lol
[08:38] <eightiesk> i just wann know how to install anthing.
[08:38] <lpfan> ive read every thing and cant figure it out
[08:38] <yoge> Hi all
[08:38] <dcode> pir2 does it give any errors?
[08:38] <dcode> eightiesk: use apt-get to  install software
[08:38] <lpfan> eight what are you tryin to do ive managed to install linux
[08:39] <lpfan> which java file do i download
[08:39] <pir2> dcode: nope noerrors
[08:39] <pir2> just stays there
[08:39] <pir2> Installing Grub, 0%
[08:39] <owner> eighties did you manage to get ubuntu upgraded
[08:39] <owner> lol
[08:39] <eightiesk> yeah
[08:39] <eightiesk> i did
[08:39] <owner> cool
[08:39] <dcode> pir2 can you switch to a diff terminal...
[08:39] <eightiesk> i just need help updating gaim and firefox now
[08:40] <eightiesk> :-X
[08:40] <dcode> press ALT+F3
[08:40] <pir2> the link I gave you actually has no link to my problem (thx google cache)
[08:40] <owner> there is no official game 2 and firefox 1.5 for ubuntu
[08:40] <lpfan> someone plz
[08:40] <eightiesk> oh ok.
[08:40] <owner> but you can still install them
[08:40] <dcode> actually go from F1 to F6 and see if you got any debug messages
[08:40] <eightiesk> how would i update though?
[08:40] <yoge> Does anyone knows what's hte best way to be identified automaticlly on freenode using kopete?
[08:40] <pir2> ok
[08:40] <pir2> I'll try that...
[08:41] <larsivi> lpfan: dl from here http://www.blackdown.org/
[08:41] <dcode> pir2: you're talking about the installer, right?
[08:41] <larsivi> find the most recent runtime
[08:41] <dcode> doh!
[08:41] <eightiesk> how can I install programs from source?
[08:41] <cold> anyone know how to boot ubuntu from installation disk ?
[08:42] <eightiesk> yes
[08:42] <eightiesk> u need to set
[08:42] <eightiesk> youyr cd rom to boot first.
[08:42] <cold> how do you do that ?
[08:42] <eightiesk> in the bios.
[08:42] <cold> I already have my bios set up to boot from cd
[08:42] <eightiesk> usually f2 or alt ctrl esc.
[08:43] <eightiesk> is it a dell?
[08:43] <cold> compaq
[08:43] <eightiesk> hold on...
[08:43] <eightiesk> what model?
[08:43] <cold> 4409CL
[08:43] <lpfan> #larsivi it says i need a username and password
[08:44] <larsivi> lpfan: try another site
[08:44] <eightiesk> cold, hold on ok?
[08:44] <cold> k
[08:45] <lpfan> #larsivi ok im d/l it
[08:45] <pir2> ok, sorry to have left, got disc'ed
[08:46] <trispace> does somebody know which KDE component uses gamin (gam_server)?
[08:46] <larsivi> lpfan and dl the install script
[08:46] <larsivi> trispace: I'm not sure of any KDE component, but Firefox do
[08:46] <pir2> I'll try seeing what happens in F1-F6, but I already went to F2 and had nothing there
[08:47] <brosioz> if i want to install some package of dapper
[08:47] <brosioz> i need to set pin on apt/preference ?
[08:47] <trispace> apt-cache rdepends libgamin0 shows a LOT of KDE dependencies
[08:47] <lpfan> #larsivi  can i pm you?
[08:48] <pir2> CU later, when I check
[08:48] <larsivi> lpfan: sure
[08:50] <lpfan> i d/l it i dont know where it went it didnt ask me to specify
[08:50] <larsivi> check your home dir
[08:51] <trispace> larsivi: i'm not sure if libgamin0 is the interface library to gamin or if the libgamin0 may be used without gamin (i.e for integrating dnotify or inotify)
[08:52] <larsivi> trispace: I don't know, but gam_server is only running here when I'm using firefox
[08:53] <trispace> larsivi: but it keeps running after you close firefox?
[08:53] <lpfan> ok im red/l it to home
[08:54] <lpfan> #larsivi  ok its done it in the home
[08:54] <larsivi> trispace: sometimes, and in those cases it continues to aquire more and more memory until it bogs down the machine
[08:55] <trispace> larsivi: yeah, same here
[08:55] <lpfan> what next?
[08:55] <eightiesk> would someone help me?
[08:56] <larsivi> trispace: it is apparently a known problem, will be fixed in the next version of gam_server (dapper)
[08:56] <larsivi> lpfan: now try running the install script
[08:57] <lpfan> i just clicked on the file and had to hit enter a million times but its workin so far
[08:57] <trispace> larsivi: hmm, i see
[08:57] <lpfan> hurray it worked
[08:59] <lpfan> next question when i got to the yahoo chat website it says Your browser is unable to support Java. Please enable Java and reload or try our HTML Client.
[08:59] <lpfan> im tryin to get into the yahoo chat rooms
[09:00] <larsivi> lpfan: In konqueror, go to settings - Java
[09:01] <lpfan> ok then what
[09:01] <larsivi> there you have to put /home/lpfan/dirtojava/j2re1.4.2/bin/java (correcting the path) in the "Path to Java"-box
[09:02] <RobinL> how do i completely switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[09:03] <cold> anyone know what parameters to pass to ubuntu installation disk to get it to boot my ubuntu distro ?
[09:04] <RobinL> how do i completely switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[09:05] <Fenix-TX> RobinL (i think) install kubuntu-desktop and remove gnome-desktop
[09:06] <larsivi> RobinL:  Or rather the other way round
[09:06] <larsivi> or not
[09:06] <larsivi> sorry
[09:07] <RobinL> ok
[09:07] <RobinL> and how to switch back?
[09:08] <larsivi> then it's the other way round :)
[09:08] <RobinL> remove kde-desktop install gnome-desktop?
[09:08] <Prozac> might install first then remove after
[09:08] <RobinL> ok :p
[09:09] <RobinL> ok it's busy installing now
[09:09] <RobinL> the problem with me is, that i keep switching back and forth
[09:09] <Prozac> just keep both
[09:09] <RobinL> and when i installed kubuntu, i can't seem to get rid of it, so i need to install whole ubuntu again
[09:09] <RobinL> Prozac: env vars?
[09:10] <Prozac> huh?
[09:10] <RobinL> when you go to GNOME
[09:10] <RobinL> some things are messed up
[09:10] <RobinL> like the look and stuff
[09:10] <Prozac> well I installed ubuntu and then added then kubunut desktop stuff
[09:10] <Prozac> i got no probs
[09:10] <lpfan> it says loading applet and never loads
[09:12] <RobinL> also, the kde apps are very different
[09:12] <RobinL> takes time to get used to
[09:12] <RobinL> oO
[09:14] <jonatan> hey, I'm new in kabunto, and I need some help with it, can any1 help me?
[09:15] <kkathman> jonatan: ask your question please
[09:15] <lpfan> how the hell do you install limewire
[09:15] <jonatan> well, I was trying to download Bittorrent, and I can't install it or anything, I'm not sure how
[09:16] <kkathman> jonatan: ktorrent is standardly installed on kubuntu though, use that
[09:16] <apokryphos_> !install
[09:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, install is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[09:16] <apokryphos_> kkathman: I'm not sure, but I'm guessing he hasn't installed yet
[09:17] <kkathman> apokryphos_: but bittorrent is under k-menu, internet  at the top
[09:17] <jonatan> I'm lost o.o
[09:17] <kkathman> thats standard
[09:17] <geirhard> does anyone know how to unrar a file with unrar-free?
[09:17] <apokryphos_> kkathman: as in installed kubuntu yet
[09:17] <apokryphos_> jonatan: have you installed Kubuntu?
[09:17] <jonatan> yes
[09:17] <apokryphos_> ok
[09:17] <jonatan> its the Os that I'm using right now, I think
[09:17] <apokryphos_> jonatan: and now what are you trying to do?
[09:17] <geirhard> I try unrar-free -x 'file path' 'destination' but i says "Failed"
[09:18] <Paradox^> do somone have a guide how to burn kubuntu live-cd with nero 7?
[09:18] <_mike> need help with firefox
[09:18] <_mike> how do i install version 1.5?
[09:18] <geirhard> does anyone know how to unrar a file with unrar-free? please
[09:19] <jonatan> crap srry back
[09:19] <apokryphos_> !tell Paradox^ about install
[09:19] <Fenix-TX> geirhard: unrar e file.rar
[09:19] <jonatan> ok, so if Bittorrent is already install how do I use it?
[09:19] <apokryphos_> geirhard: why not just use unrar-nonfree?
[09:21] <geirhard> i think you have to pay to use unrar-nonfree
[09:21] <geirhard> i do unrar e file.rar?
[09:22] <Fenix-TX> or unrar-free e file.rar
[09:22] <jonatan> how do I install bittorrent?
[09:22] <geirhard> grrrrrrrr it doesn't works
[09:23] <Fenix-TX> any error?
[09:23] <kkathman> jonatan:  sudo apt-get install bittorrent
[09:23] <geirhard> failed
[09:23] <jonatan> what sudo apt-get mean?
[09:23] <geirhard> after every file of the .rar file it says: "failed"
[09:24] <Fenix-TX> try install unrar-nonfree
[09:24] <geirhard> ok
[09:24] <RickKnight> Anyone here ablr to help with fglrx build problem?
[09:24] <_robin> ok
[09:24] <RobinL> ok.
[09:24] <RobinL> now...
[09:24] <RobinL> how to remove GNOME with all the apps?
[09:24] <lpfan> ok guys what can i use to use voice in yahoo messenger?
[09:25] <geirhard> thank you very much, i love youuuuuu!!! xD
[09:25] <lpfan> does gaim?
[09:25] <owner> lpfan, there is a program called gyach enhaned
[09:25] <owner> enhanced
[09:25] <owner> thats the only known program to have yahoo voice chat in linux
[09:26] <owner> but ive never got it to work properly
[09:27] <RobinL> how to remove GNOME with all the apps?
[09:28] <kkathman> RobinL:  sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:28] <RobinL> doesn't work
[09:28] <eightiesk> how do i get my sound working ne 1 know?
[09:28] <lpfan> which one should i d/l owner
[09:29] <owner> i like gaim for yahoo chat
[09:29] <owner> but no voice chat
[09:29] <kkathman> eightiesk:  this is a good stzrt:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems?highlight=%28Sound%29
[09:30] <lpfan> does gaim enther yahoo chat sites?
[09:30] <eightiesk> no
[09:30] <kkathman> lpfan:  gaim works with msn, AOL, yahoo, Gadu-gadu- etc
[09:30] <kkathman> but not chat rooms
[09:31] <owner> gaim works well with yahoo chat
[09:31] <kkathman> its just a msg pgm
[09:31] <lpfan> ok should i dl the .rpm for  gyach
[09:31] <owner> you will have to convert it to a deb
[09:31] <owner> with alien
[09:32] <owner> btw gaim does have yahoo chat room ability
[09:32] <lpfan> lol damn where do i get that?
[09:32] <eightiesk> it doesn't in windows my mestake.
[09:33] <_mike> how do i install the newest versions of firefox and thunderbird?
[09:35] <owner> use automatix mike
[09:35] <owner> but forums are down
[09:35] <Xemanth^> _mike: x64 ?
[09:36] <gyuszk> rere
[09:36] <kkathman> NOOOO dont use automatix!!!!
[09:37] <kkathman> DO NOT use automatix!!!
[09:37] <kkathman> use EasyKubuntu instead!
[09:37] <lpfan> damn how do i install alientr.gz
[09:38] <lpfan> <--- goin insane
[09:38] <kkathman> lpfan: why?
[09:39] <lpfan> dont know hoe to install alien
[09:39] <owner> sudo apt-get install alien
[09:39] <kkathman> owner: please do NOT recommend automatix...its a very irresponsible program and not safe
[09:40] <owner> kkathman, automatix is relatively safe to use now
[09:40] <owner> imho
[09:40] <kkathman> owner not true unless they have removed the --force commands, which I believe the author was bullheaded and refused
[09:40] <kkathman> the --force command is the quickest way to break a system
[09:40] <owner> but i remember he said it no longer uses --force
[09:41] <kkathman> EasyKubuntu is the most safe
[09:41] <kkathman> and the most complee
[09:41] <kkathman> complete
[09:41] <kkathman> owner: not true I'm afraid
[09:41] <lpfan> ok installed now how to run it lol im such a damn newbie
[09:42] <owner> because he had edited the automatix post, to say it no longer uses --force and sets root pass
[09:42] <owner> but its not there anymore
[09:42] <kkathman> EasyKubuntu was a fork off of automatix, and was created by official ubuntu members, so I trust it MUCH more
[09:43] <owner> i think automatix was based on easyubuntu
[09:43] <owner> not sure about easy kubuntu
[09:43] <kkathman> owner other way around
[09:44] <lpfan> how do i run alien?
[09:44] <owner> sudo alien file.rpm
[09:44] <lpfan> i already installed it
[09:45] <Xemanth^> btw whats this sudo thingy?
[09:45] <Xemanth^> why cant it be normal su
[09:45] <lpfan> super user
[09:45] <larsivi> sudo is "safer"
[09:45] <Xemanth^> i know its super user but why its sudo
[09:45] <Xemanth^> safer
[09:45] <Xemanth^> ^^
[09:46] <larsivi> you don't stay in su mode using sudo
[09:46] <Xemanth^> in ubuntu root pass is same as user pass by default :D hows that safer
[09:46] <lpfan> ok im lost lol
[09:46] <lpfan> so how do i convert
[09:46] <Xemanth^> larsivi: yes you stay if you write sudo -s like i do everytime
[09:46] <lpfan> damn i hate newbies
[09:46] <lpfan> lol
[09:46] <eightiesk> you are a newbie
[09:47] <eightiesk> :-p
[09:47] <eightiesk> me 2
[09:47] <lpfan> i know
[09:47] <Xemanth^> me ? :DD
[09:47] <eightiesk> this is my first day on linux.
[09:47] <eightiesk> lmao
[09:47] <Xemanth^> me too :D
[09:47] <lpfan> no i was implyin it towards myself
[09:47] <larsivi> Xemanth^: yeah, and i do "sudo passwd" so I can use su
[09:47] <lpfan> me2
[09:47] <eightiesk> i just want firefox 1.5...
[09:47] <lpfan> ive tryed suse before and i hated it
[09:47] <eightiesk> i dunno how to insatall it from source.
[09:48] <lpfan> i dont know why didnt feel right
[09:48] <Xemanth^> larsivi: yeah but in debian you write su if you want to be root
[09:48] <lpfan> #larsivi how do i run alien i installed it
[09:48] <Xemanth^> but in kubuntu its sudo, its confusing me alot
[09:49] <larsivi> Xemanth^: yeah, and if you do "sudo passwd" you set root's password so you can do su
[09:49] <eightiesk> lpfan, type in  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[09:49] <shawkins> Xemanth^: in kubuntu you can use su
[09:49] <eightiesk> that might be ezer for you
[09:49] <eightiesk> lol
[09:49] <lpfan> ah
[09:49] <shawkins> Xemanth^: after you do. what larsivi  said
[09:49] <Xemanth^> well my su doesn't accept any pass
[09:49] <larsivi> lpfan: no idea, I've never used alien
[09:49] <larsivi> have you tried "sudo passwd" yet?
[09:49] <shawkins> Xemanth^: do....... 'sudo passwd root'
[09:50] <Xemanth^> not atm kubuntu open
[09:50] <shawkins> well once you do that su will work fine..
[09:51] <eightiesk> ne one know how to install a program from source?
[09:51] <Xemanth^> i think kubuntu should include to installed su password
[09:52] <lpfan> i think i did it its downloading crap
[09:52] <Xemanth^> it rapes linux's safety :|
[09:52] <Xemanth^> k s
[09:52] <Xemanth^> installer* i mean
[09:52] <SkrotFFS> Does make oldconfig check the .config, or /boot/<currentconfig>?
[09:52] <owner> su is locked with unbreakable password
[09:52] <owner> unless it specifically set by user
[09:53] <owner> ubuntu copied this from mac osx
[09:53] <larsivi> and only the user should know the user's password, thus fairly safe
[09:53] <larsivi> if you do sudo (and not sudo -s) it's even more safe
[09:54] <larsivi> Xemanth^: it's you breaking the safety with -s ;)
[09:54] <lpfan> so do you guys know a good guide thats easy to understand that goes over the basics?
[09:55] <lpfan> *of linux
[09:55] <eightiesk> anyone here know  where i might find a driver for http://www.lexmark.com/uncomplicate/product/home/38/0,7044,204816596_237485130_243418022_en_0_1,00.html
[09:56] <Xemanth^> larsivi: i do compiling only with -s
[09:56] <Xemanth^> i do alot stuff which need root previlidges
[09:57] <vge> can somebody tell little program like ms calculator for kde?
[09:57] <larsivi> kcalc or speedcrunch
[09:57] <vge> ty
[09:58] <Xemanth^> i like kcalc
[09:58] <lpfan> what was the name of that im prog
[09:58] <vge> let's see what synapsic gave me
[09:59] <vge> what i needed, ty
[09:59] <lpfan> gyim?
[10:00] <eightiesk> gaim
[10:00] <eightiesk> i use it in windows 2
[10:00] <eightiesk> its the best.
[10:00] <lpfan> no the one that supports voice
[10:01] <lpfan> i found it
[10:01] <lpfan> #larsivi ok i did what you said but it isnt on the desktop?
[10:03] <larsivi> lpfan: what don't you find on the desktop?
[10:03] <lpfan> alien i thought it would installl it to the desktop
[10:05] <larsivi> lpfan: the only thing I said about alien is that I've never used it :P
[10:05] <lpfan> o that was eight
[10:05] <lpfan> lol
[10:05] <dah> hi everyone, i'm a kubuntu newby. am i right here?
[10:06] <matchthis> must go today message me if interestedon aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if your interested and want to buy! .  prices are 550 each includes shipping case and wireless router.2 alienware products, 1 area51-m 5700 notebook, and one area51 7500 desktop tower system.
[10:06] <lpfan> i did this
[10:06] <lpfan> ype in  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop.
[10:06] <lpfan> should that install to desktop
[10:06] <Xemanth^> gnome suxor
[10:06] <Xemanth^> :)
[10:07] <lpfan> how do i run it?
[10:07] <larsivi> can an op kill matchthis?
[10:08] <lpfan> wii an op shoot me between the eys
[10:08] <lpfan> lol
[10:09] <lpfan> haha
[10:09] <pr1r> hey all
[10:09] <lpfan> so i install an app how do i run it?
[10:09] <vge> type the name on console
[10:10] <owner> ubuntuforums are back up
[10:10] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: hello
[10:14] <lpfan> alien -d Gyach-Enhanced-pYVoiceChat-1.0.7-1.i586.rpm
[10:14] <lpfan> typed this
[10:14] <lpfan> says file not found and its on desktop
[10:15] <qm> Need asstance getting Kubuntu on my Dell laptop to operate an HP Officejet 7410
[10:16] <larsivi> lpfan: alien -d Desktop/Gy... etc
[10:18] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: ??
[10:19] <pr1r> anyone running 2 monitors on 2 graphics cards or know how to do that??? thanks in advance
[10:20] <SpentCasing> is there any list of wireless cards that work with kubuntu, cause i cant get mine to work at all
[10:21] <lpfan> ah ha got it
[10:21] <owner> in general any cards that work in linux should work in ubuntu
[10:22] <SpentCasing> it claims to work, but im testing on live cds before i put it back on my hd
[10:22] <lpfan> how do install gyach to desktop usin alien i type alien -d-i then blah blah blah how do i specify it to install to desktop?
[10:23] <lpfan> and gyach you can gointo chat roms
[10:23] <owner> dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:23] <owner> sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[10:24] <lpfan> and it block the porn bots awesome
[10:24] <owner> if gyach crashes
[10:24] <owner> turn off animated smileys in options
[10:24] <owner> thats a known bug
[10:24] <larsivi> SpentCasing: I have the intel 2200, it's working fairly well, at least as long as you don't use WPA encryption
[10:26] <luka74> I have ipw2200 and WPA is also working well
[10:26] <luka74> On Breezy it just requires latest drivers (not the built in ones)
[10:27] <SpentCasing> it is a b/g card, so its 2200 right?
[10:28] <larsivi> luka74: is wpa working with the currently provided breezy kernel? do you use wpa_supplicant?
[10:28] <luka74> I use wpa_supplicant and ipw2200-1.0.10
[10:29] <larsivi> And you didn't have to recompile the kernel?
[10:29] <starhawk> hi
[10:30] <luka74> kernel is 2.6.12-10-686 - I have just compiled ieee80211 and ipw2200 drivers
[10:30] <larsivi> ok, I suppose I haven't tried that with breezy, in hoary you had to recompile the kernel too
[10:30] <luka74> I just followed instructions from ubuntuforums...
[10:31] <hawking> anyone who knows about configuring ethernet for a static network ( no dhcp) I had a static IP which I used but now a new one is assigned to me and I can't change it.. I change it from network settings and apply it .. when I enable the device it's back to the old IP what may be the problem?
[10:31] <luka74> SpentCasing: do you have any security on your AP? WEP? WPA?
[10:32] <SpentCasing> luka74: nope
[10:32] <starhawk> I am running kubunta and after a few hours of running it locks up in sleep mode or habernation I have to shut down with the power button because hitting the keys on the keyboard or anything else wont wake it up any help with this
[10:34] <SpentCasing> see i hade breezy on my laptop, got my card (proxim 8470-WD /atheros chipset) and i couldnt get it to work, wireless was a must so i installed xp, now i have some down time and i want to get back to breezy, but i want to try it on a live cd first to avoid any more aggrivation
[10:34] <luka74> SpentCasing: did you try to run iwconfig from Konsole? There is also nice WLAN troubleshooting guide at wiki.ubuntu.com
[10:35] <hawking> no ideas?
[10:35] <SpentCasing> i did try iwconfig, i didnt check the forums though, thx
[10:37] <starhawk> I am running kubunta and after a few hours of running it locks up in sleep mode or habernation I have to shut down with the power button because hitting the keys on the keyboard or anything else wont wake it up any help with this
[10:37] <luka74> SpentCasing: start here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs - hope it will work for you.
[10:37] <SpentCasing> im new to linux and not that good yet, so these little things get overwhelming fast
[10:37] <SpentCasing> luka74: thank you
[10:39] <hawking> anyone who knows about configuring ethernet for a static network ( no dhcp) I had a static IP which I used but now a new one is assigned to me and I can't change it.. I change it from network settings and apply it .. when I enable the device it's back to the old IP what may be the problem?
[10:41] <tictric> hawking: look in /etc/network/interfaces
[10:41] <hawking> tictric : I have changed that too
[10:41] <tictric> then you did /etc/init.d/networking restart ?
[10:41] <hawking> hmm no lemme try that
[10:42] <hawking> I did ifdown eth0 and ifup eth0
[10:42] <tictric> that's essential :)
[10:42] <hawking> trying :)
[10:44] <hawking> tictric : didn't change
[10:44] <tictric> well, I don't know what you've done to your installation :)
[10:44] <luka74> hawking: do you have nm-applet running (maybe messing with your config)?
[10:45] <hawking> luka74 : nope
[10:47] <hawking> that's too weird
[10:48] <tictric> hawking: what about your network settings in kde? Though I don't know what happens if you change stuff there
[10:49] <tictric> or just paste your interfaces to some pastebin to have a look at it
[10:49] <hawking> well changing network settings in kde changes /etc/network/interfaces
[10:50] <tictric> hawking: never used kde config stuff for hardware. can't tell. I mean hal'
[10:50] <tictric> is pretty weird too
[10:50] <tictric> just paste it
[10:50] <hawking> paste what? /etc/network/interfaces?
[10:51] <tictric> why not?
[10:51] <hawking> ok
[10:51] <hawking> wait a sec
[10:52] <hawking> tictric : http://rafb.net/paste/results/TS3lps39.html
[10:53] <tictric> just disable that mapping stuff if you don't need it and put in
[10:53] <tictric> auto eth0
[10:53] <hawking> hmm okie tryin
[10:55] <hawking> still same ip
[10:55] <tictric> hawking: what did you do?
[10:56] <hawking> tictric : I have put auto eth0 instead of that hotplug stuff and then /etc/init.d/networking restart and ifdown eth0 ifup eth0
[10:56] <luka74> hawking: is it possible that dhclient is still running?
[10:56] <hawking> luka74 : how can i check?
[10:57] <luka74> ps -ef | grep dhclient
[10:57] <hawking> with dhclient you mean the dhcp client? if so I have disabled dhcp afaik
[10:57] <Twan> Ok...anyway I can open a file in /etc/ and be able to modify it? I'm logged in as root but still am getting permission denied...
[10:58] <hawking> luka74 : it gives this root     22364 21247  0 23:58 pts/6    00:00:00 grep dhclient
[10:58] <tictric> hawking: what's ifconfig sayin?
[10:58] <hawking> it tells me the old ip
[10:59] <luka74> hawking: this is really strange. Can you search for your old IP in /etc?
[10:59] <Twan> So does anyone know how I can launch a .conf file from terminal?
[10:59] <hawking> luka74 : what's the command to do that?
[10:59] <hawking> sry I forgot
[10:59] <luka74> sudo grep -r IP /etc
[11:00] <luka74> (IP is your IP number)
[11:00] <tictric> grep -ri '123.2.45.9' /etc/*
[11:00] <hawking> ok
[11:00] <tictric> dont forget the quotes
[11:00] <MrJangles> whats the best ftp software for kde?
[11:00] <tictric> MrJangles: konqueror
[11:01] <MrJangles> its also ftp?
[11:01] <tictric> MrJangles: it's almost everything :)
[11:01] <hawking>  it gives this /etc/network/interfaces~:address IP
[11:01] <hawking> silly backup file
[11:01] <hawking> might that be the reason?
[11:02] <MrJangles> tictric: awesome :) thanks
[11:02] <luka74> remove it ant try again - it would be stupid though...
[11:02] <tictric> Twan if you are root you can change the file
[11:02] <tictric> very stupid
[11:02] <tictric> if not to say impossible
[11:02] <hawking> luka74 : yeah nothin changed
[11:03] <hawking> that's too weird
[11:03] <Twan> Does anyone know how to use vsftpd (very secure ftp daemon)
[11:03] <tictric> hawking: you're not mixin up two different shells via ssh?
[11:04] <tictric> I mean. Changin the local interfaces and restartin the remote?
[11:04] <tictric> that's not uncommon :-)
[11:04] <MrJangles> tictric: i just connect using the url tab?
[11:04] <hawking> tictric : huh? no...
[11:05] <hawking> I had a running ssh server I closed it and tried again.. didnt work
[11:05] <y_o_u> anyone able to help me get synaptics up and running, or point me to a guide/howto? apt-get install synaptic isnt working, not sure about next step. thanks
[11:05] <tictric> MrJangles: type ftp://user@server and see what happens
[11:06] <MrJangles> tictric: yea, but any web browser is capable of that. i was thinking 3rd party software
[11:06] <tictric> hawking: I don't know what you are doin but what you are sayin is technically impossible
[11:06] <MrJangles> tictric: ftp through a web browser is very basic
[11:07] <tictric> MrJangles: just try it. you won't see a difference to your local files
[11:07] <tictric> it can do sftp too
[11:07] <MrJangles> ya its ok, its basic web browser ftp, not exactly what i'm looking for
[11:07] <tictric> and what more do you expect from a ftp client then to move and delete files and directorys
[11:08] <tictric> no, it's not basic web browser
[11:09] <MrJangles> i have several servers, organization is important
[11:09] <tictric> I have several servers too and I don't even use ftp
[11:09] <MrJangles> are you connecting remotely?
[11:10] <tictric> scp, rsync
[11:10] <MrJangles> ya, my sites dont use that
[11:11] <MrJangles> i've been using ftp software, and thats what i'm comfortable with
[11:11] <tictric> MrJangles: you have to work with it. Not I :-)
[11:11] <MrJangles> lol
[11:12] <Sean> hey
[11:12] <MrJangles> so, does anyone know good ftp software for ubunt? ... =P
[11:12] <Sean> can someone help me with a problem im having?
[11:12] <tictric> I just happen to like konqueror better than gftp for example
[11:12] <MrJangles> ah
[11:13] <tictric> so try gftp if you need the real ftp feeling
[11:13] <MrJangles> i wanna learn how to sync my sites
[11:13] <tictric> with konqui you got just some sort of harddisk feeling which you might not find useful :-)
[11:14] <Sean> hi
[11:14] <MrJangles> lol, i've been playing in windows all my life, you understand ;-)
[11:15] <Ragion> hey can someone help me out with a problem im having with kubunut?
[11:15] <tictric> MrJangles: well windows is not very good at networking anyway. But you'll find out yourself.
[11:15] <tictric> good night everybody
[11:16] <Ragion> when i start up, everyone loads up fine in the command screen, but then the screen just shows these weird colors and lines right before the X starts up
[11:16] <hawking> i did it!! :)
[11:16] <hawking> ifupdown-clean force-reload
[11:16] <MrJangles> tictric: i just rid of my windows recently, i'm still adjusting
[11:17] <Ragion> hello?
[11:17] <orion_fr_24> hello from france everybody
[11:17] <orion_fr_24> I just need a quick advice
[11:17] <orion_fr_24> I d like to create a basic website
[11:18] <orion_fr_24> I m looking for an HTML edito
[11:18] <orion_fr_24> sonething quite easy to use
[11:18] <Ragion> bluefish
[11:18] <MrJangles> vi
[11:18] <hawking> bluefish is cool really
[11:18] <orion_fr_24> haaa haaa haaa
[11:18] <hawking> or viM
[11:18] <MrJangles> ;-)
[11:18] <orion_fr_24> not vi thank yopu
[11:18] <Ragion> can anyone see what im typing?
[11:19] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: yes we can
[11:19] <MrJangles> Ragio: yes
[11:19] <hawking> I do
[11:19] <Ragion> does anyone know a way to help with my problem?
[11:19] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: thank you for the advice
[11:19] <vge> orion_fr_24: i would suggest quanta
[11:19] <Ragion> your welcome
[11:19] <orion_fr_24> vge quanta or bluefish ??
[11:19] <orion_fr_24> lol
[11:19] <Ragion> blue
[11:20] <vge> try bought
[11:20] <orion_fr_24> vge: good idea
[11:20] <orion_fr_24> vge: ;)
[11:20] <Ragion> how do i set my resolution when i load kubuntu?
[11:20] <Ragion> what would that command be?
[11:21] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: it is not a command
[11:21] <Ragion> im loading from grub
[11:21] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: you have to setup your config file
[11:22] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: but I dont know how
[11:22] <Ragion> after all the processes start, and gnome is about to load, the screen goes real bad (i.e. pink lines)
[11:22] <Ragion> i was thinking the resolution might be too large or somethin
[11:22] <Skrot> I've got a problem when starting KDE via KDM: "No write access to '/home/magnus/.ICEauthority'" how do I fix that? magnus is my normal user and KDM is started at boot
[11:22] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: why are you on kubuntu channel if you use gnome ??? kubuntu is on KDE
[11:23] <Ragion> haha i mean KDE
[11:23] <Ragion> sorry
[11:23] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: you should try #ubuntu
[11:23] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: hoo ok
[11:23] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: wich distro of kubuntu do you have ???
[11:23] <Ragion> dapper\
[11:23] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: the last one ?
[11:24] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: dapper ??? it is so old
[11:24] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: why dont you upgrade to Breezy ??
[11:24] <Ragion> wait, which one is the newest
[11:24] <Ragion> as in not even out
[11:24] <orion_fr_24> breezy
[11:24] <Ragion> flgiht 3
[11:25] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: let s go on one to one chat
[11:25] <Ragion> how?
[11:25] <orion_fr_24> check the tabs at the bottom you should see my nuckname
[11:25] <orion_fr_24> nickname
[11:26] <vge> just type /msg other nic to privatechat
[11:26] <Ragion> ugh ive gotta resigter
[11:26] <larsivi> orion_fr_24: dapper is the one that is to come after breezy, it's hoary that is old
[11:26] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: u sure ?
[11:26] <larsivi> yes
[11:26] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: ok I thought it was breezy
[11:27] <larsivi> breezy is the current release, dapper is in alpha testing
[11:27] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: thx for that
[11:27] <larsivi> dapper flight 3 is the latest alpha release (see topic of this channel)
[11:28] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: ok and is it stable or not ??
[11:29] <Ragion> no
[11:29] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: beurk
[11:30] <larsivi> orion_fr_24: I don't know how stable it is, I use breezy, but some think it is somewhat stable
[11:30] <larsivi> Probably depends on how lucky you are with your updates
[11:30] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: it s not really good to use alpha release
[11:30] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: I think so
[11:30] <Ragion> should i get breezy
[11:30] <Ragion> and try things with that?
[11:30] <larsivi> orion_fr_24: someone needs to test :)
[11:30] <Prozac> Anybody know a program that will tell me what kind of Motherboard i have ?
[11:31] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: not ne I m not good enough for that
[11:31] <orion_fr_24> larsivi: i m still a newbie
[11:31] <orion_fr_24> lol
[11:31] <Ragion> prozac, do you have windows also?
[11:31] <Prozac> nop
[11:31] <Ragion> alright
[11:31] <Ragion> then im not sure with linux
[11:32] <_arafat> Prozac: maybe lsci -v will tell you...
[11:32] <nat> Hi, I've a quesiton about KDE and its autostart function
[11:32] <_arafat> lspci
[11:32] <Prozac> need to do a bios upgrade, but dont know what motherboard i have, only know the bios name/version
[11:33] <nat> I put a file named "gaim" with the approprate text in to lauch gaim a the startup of kde but it's launching gaim 2 times
[11:33] <nat> do you know where is my mistake ?
[11:33] <Zappa> yeah, it automatically starts gaim anyway if gaim is open when you logged out/shut down
[11:34] <nat> a ok :)
[11:34] <nat> thks
[11:51] <ubuntu_6> Are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:52] <DrCurl> Hi all
[11:52] <ubuntu_6> hi
[11:52] <DrCurl> is there some user here that used also Ubuntu?
[11:52] <ubuntu_6> I used ubuntu
[11:52] <ubuntu_6> DrCurl are you able to get to the ubuntu forums?
[11:53] <DrCurl> it's because I tried Ubuntu and was disapointed by its performance
[11:53] <ubuntu_6> I'm currently looking for a new distro =P
[11:53] <DrCurl> I would like to know if Kubuntu performs better
[11:53] <ubuntu_6> my personal opinion is no.
[11:54] <ubuntu_6> but I'm not sure =P
[11:54] <DrCurl> ubuntu_6: why are you looking for another distro?
[11:54] <ubuntu_6> because I'm bored with ubuntu and its a bit slow
[11:54] <ubuntu_6> need somthing new
[11:54] <ubuntu_6> don't know what to try
[11:55] <DrCurl> Can someone tell me how much RAM is used once Kubuntu is loaded? under slack, KDE use around 70 megs on a 256 megs system once loaded
[11:55] <DrCurl> but Ubuntu used all of my available resosources :|
[11:55] <unf> hello
[11:56] <unf> does anyone use yakutake?
[11:56] <a-priori> for reference, with a bunch of stuff open, I'm using 245MB now
[11:56] <DrCurl> ok
[11:56] <ubuntu_6> DrCurl, I don't think your going to be able to use KDE with a system that only has 256mb of ram
[11:56] <ubuntu_6> try somthing a bit lighter like XFCE, or fluxbox
[11:57] <a-priori> ubuntu_6: doing it right now :)
[11:57] <ubuntu_6> are the ubuntu fourms down guys?
[11:57] <ubuntu_6> I can't get to them
[11:57] <unf> does anyone know which g++ version may i use to compile yakutake?
[11:57] <orion_fr_24> howw ccann i chhecck theee  vverssioon i m runniinnng oon ?
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> uname -somthing
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> lol
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> I forgot wich switch it takes
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> h/o
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> uname -a :P
[11:58] <ubuntu_6> or if your talking about g++ try g++ --version
[12:00] <orion_fr_24> ubuntu_6: ok thx
[12:02] <cold> I want to make a ubuntu bootdisk on cdrom, could someone tell me what files I need to copy ?
[12:02] <orion_fr_24> cold: there a premade bootable CD u can download