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| Seveas | Does launchpad provide a possibility to receive support requests per mail? | 01:12 |
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| jsgotangco | jblack, you got pay per view? | 07:18 |
| jblack | jsgotangco: Why? | 07:20 |
| jsgotangco | jblack, just wondering if you got to watch the fight (morales/pacquaio 2) | 07:21 |
| jblack | yeah. I watched it | 07:21 |
| jblack | Oh, no, not the second one. | 07:21 |
| jblack | Who won? | 07:21 |
| jsgotangco | pacman | 07:21 |
| jsgotangco | tko 10 | 07:21 |
| jblack | really! | 07:21 |
| jsgotangco | he decked morales twice | 07:21 |
| jblack | I think I'm going to bed. I'm not feeling well | 07:23 |
| Mez | jblack: ping | 07:23 |
| Mez | o_O | 07:24 |
| jsgotangco | later jblack rest well | 07:26 |
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| Dirty_Harry | What's up? It's quiet | 08:24 |
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| Dirty_Harry | ping | 08:28 |
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| Dirty_Harry | / | 08:36 |
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| Mez | hmm - LP timing out on changing an emblem | 08:40 |
| Mez | any idea? | 08:40 |
| lifeless | librarian could be down I guess | 08:48 |
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| zyga | anyone around? | 10:35 |
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| zyga | I'm trying to get into dapper's xchat-gnome template for polish but I cannot find any | 10:35 |
| jamesh | zyga: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/xchat-gnome/+pots/xchat-gnome/pl/+translate | 10:37 |
| zyga | jamesh: thanks, why isn't it listed on the big list page for pl? | 10:38 |
| zyga | I thought this bug was fixed ages ago | 10:38 |
| jamesh | zyga: is polish selected as one of your languages on https://launchpad.net/rosetta/prefs ? | 10:41 |
| zyga | jamesh: checking | 10:41 |
| zyga | jamesh: yes it is | 10:42 |
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| zyga | jamesh: I usually look for templates on this page: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+lang/pl | 10:44 |
| zyga | it just got added after I visited the link you've sent ime | 10:44 |
| jamesh | zyga: I believe there is a bug open about that. | 10:45 |
| jamesh | zyga: you should see polish here: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/dapper/+source/xchat-gnome/+translations | 10:45 |
| jamesh | (if it is selected as a preferred language) | 10:46 |
| zyga | jamesh: it works now, it seems that visiting that link has created the template | 10:46 |
| zyga | I'm listed as the creator | 10:46 |
| zyga | jamesh: strange | 10:49 |
| zyga | jamesh: I wanted to fix a bug in the translation | 10:49 |
| zyga | jamesh: some messages seem to have been incorrectly tagged as utf-8 while being latin-2 (comon issue) | 10:49 |
| zyga | jamesh: so if there are some translations, why wasn't the template page created automatically... | 10:50 |
| zyga | I need to find carlos :/ | 10:51 |
| zyga | does carlos come here on weekends? | 10:57 |
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| stgraber | Need support on #pr3dators-klan.com after Quakenet probs on #pr3dators-klan.et ... (sorry for amsg and ad) | 11:26 |
| stgraber | sorry, this message was for qnet only | 11:27 |
| zyga | any rosetta devs around? | 11:33 |
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| sivang | howdy all | 12:01 |
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| jb-home | Looking at Bug 29290 - jamesh identifies it as an untrapped duplicate key failure. The other half of the question I guess should be a support request - how, then, do I target a bug to a particular version of software in Dapper? | 12:07 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 29290: "OOPS-21D227 received while trying to target a bug" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29290 | 12:07 |
| jb-home | Do you guys look at the support requests at all, or is it best to ask in here for things like this? | 12:07 |
| jamesh | jb-home: we don't have per-package milestones at the moment | 12:08 |
| jamesh | which is essentially what you want | 12:08 |
| lifeless | wheeeooo | 12:08 |
| lifeless | love those 1/2 hour to write emails. | 12:09 |
| sivang | lifeless: 1/2? that must be a long email.. | 12:09 |
| lifeless | actually, wow. more like an hour | 12:09 |
| lifeless | sivang: extending the transaction api in bzr | 12:09 |
| jb-home | jamesh: Ah, okay. So I've just included the text "dapper" and "0.9-0ubuntu1" in the body of the message then, and this is best practice for now? | 12:09 |
| lifeless | finally figured out what had me spooked about some of the adhoc patches | 12:10 |
| zyga | any devs around? | 12:10 |
| jamesh | jb-home: there is an item in the actions portlet "target fix to releases" | 12:10 |
| lifeless | zyga: FSVO yes | 12:10 |
| zyga | I'd like to raise the issue of common problems t | 12:10 |
| sivang | lifeless: ah, figures then you'll probbly need more then one or two long emails , if your going to extend an api :-) | 12:11 |
| zyga | I'd like to raise the issue of common problems due to invalid content encoding in .po files | 12:11 |
| jamesh | jb-home: you can target it at Dapper there, which will open another bug task (enabling you to track the bug in each of the releases it needs to be fixed int) | 12:11 |
| lifeless | sivang: mainly I needed time doing nothing else to work through the issues | 12:11 |
| jb-home | jamesh: I saw that, but it looked like something as the reporter I should never set (It's not up to me to say where something *must* be fixed. It's only up to me to say where it's broken.) | 12:11 |
| lifeless | so that I can explain why I was going 'No, dont do that' to people, when what they wanted sounded reasonable on the surface | 12:11 |
| lifeless | we have some pretty high goals for bzr in a technical sense | 12:11 |
| jamesh | jb-home: okay, so you want to say "this bug occurs in 0.9-0ubuntu1" | 12:12 |
| jb-home | jamesh: Right. Or at a minimum, this bug occurs in dapper. | 12:12 |
| zyga | I'd like to propose a system for rosetta that would preprocess all incoming files to determine the true encoding, if not set correctly and re-encode to unicode | 12:12 |
| jamesh | jb-home: we _do_ have something in the data model to handle this (bug infestations), but we don't have any UI for it | 12:12 |
| jb-home | jamesh: But it started as at a specific version, and it seems like useful metadata. | 12:12 |
| zyga | I'm working on a reference implementation that targets common errors in polish templates | 12:12 |
| sivang | lifeless: interesting. Is there anything documented online about it? (could be a nice way to learn just about more bits about bzr) | 12:13 |
| jb-home | jamesh: Fair enough. Is there anything I can usefully capture in an enhancement bug report from this conversation? | 12:13 |
| jamesh | jb-home: sure. The bug infestation idea is to be able to attach metadata to the bug like "occurs in version X.Y" or "does not occur in version X.Y+1" | 12:13 |
| lifeless | sivang: well, theres the bzrlib.transactions api, theres my new email about it | 12:13 |
| jamesh | and be able to use that data to narrow down problems | 12:14 |
| jamesh | but there is no UI for that (there is just a table definition at the moment, iirc) | 12:14 |
| zyga | any hints on who should I contact? | 12:14 |
| jb-home | Ah! I see it here as #424 | 12:14 |
| jamesh | jb-home: so at the moment, including it as a comment is probably best | 12:15 |
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| lifeless | lists.canonical.com | 12:17 |
| lifeless | bazaar-ng is the lsit | 12:17 |
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| jb-home | jamesh: Thanks. | 12:20 |
| lifeless | jb-home: btw | 12:21 |
| lifeless | we can just about fix the versioning on the bzr packages | 12:21 |
| lifeless | this is a reminder to switch to ~ for 8 | 12:22 |
| jb-home | lifeless: Thanks for the reminder. | 12:22 |
| lifeless | np | 12:23 |
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| jb-home | Where's the right place to report bugs on the bugzilla migration? | 12:41 |
| lifeless | jamesh: | 12:42 |
| jsgotangco | malone? | 12:42 |
| jb-home | jsgotangco: Do you know against which product? | 12:44 |
| jsgotangco | well you can probably file it to malone itself | 12:45 |
| lifeless | there is a launchpad product | 12:47 |
| lifeless | but jamesh is the person to chat with | 12:47 |
| jb-home | 'kay. I'll wait a bit to see if he resurfaces. | 12:48 |
| jb-home | lifeless: I wasn't sure about the launchpad product, since it's not launchpad that has the bug. | 12:48 |
| jb-home | lifeless: Thanks! | 12:48 |
| lifeless | np | 12:50 |
| Mez | how often does launchpad like - see what packages are available | 12:52 |
| jamesh | jb-home: what is the problem? | 12:53 |
| Mez | lol - cause it's still showing old versions of packages and stuff | 12:53 |
| jb-home | jamesh: I have two things that have come up: | 12:53 |
| jb-home | 1) bugzilla doesn't appear to be read only, and I got a new comment filed on an existing bug. | 12:54 |
| jb-home | (18157) | 12:54 |
| jb-home | 2) Malone bug#24190 was correctly imported, but doesn't show up on my list of reported bugs. | 12:54 |
| jamesh | jb-home: that would be an RT request. We can probably make the database readonly at the moment | 12:54 |
| jb-home | jamesh: I think it probably also means another import run. =( | 12:55 |
| jb-home | jamesh: I pretty much only happened to notice this one, but generally I have bugzilla mail disabled. | 12:55 |
| jamesh | jb-home: that's a little difficult. | 12:55 |
| jb-home | So people could be commenting on existing bugs and I'd have no way of knowing about it, and the data won't be in malone. | 12:55 |
| jamesh | jb-home: I'm guessing some existing login sessions are active (we disabled login for all existing accounts) | 12:56 |
| jamesh | jb-home: your (2) is https://launchpad.net/products/malone/+bug/4201 | 12:57 |
| Ubugtu | Malone bug 4201: "Bugs with NeedInfo status should be displayed on open bugs query." Fix req. for: malone (upstream), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Needs Info | 12:57 |
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| jb-home | jamesh: Ah, no wonder the keywords I guessed didn't give me the bug. =) | 12:58 |
| jb-home | Right, 4201 definetly looks like what I'm hitting here. | 12:59 |
| jb-home | So I only have one data loss issue, not two. =P | 01:00 |
| jamesh | for (1), we probably want to do a "delete from logincookies" on the bugzilla DB | 01:01 |
| jamesh | we don't currently have the ability to do incremental comment imports from bugzilla though. | 01:01 |
| jamesh | the script I wrote was for a one-off import | 01:02 |
| jb-home | Ugh. | 01:02 |
| jb-home | Is there any way to do a system-wide query to see how much data is being lost? | 01:02 |
| jb-home | If it's just a dozen or so, those folks can be contacted to file the data in the right place. | 01:02 |
| jb-home | Otherwise it might be worth developing the scripts to do it. | 01:02 |
| jamesh | there is a date associated with each comment. We could probably tell how many comments have been made. | 01:03 |
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| jb-home | jamesh: Is there anything useful I can add to this? | 01:04 |
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| eldiablo | buonciorno | 01:51 |
| eldiablo | ciao | 01:51 |
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| muadda | We cannot yet use launchpad to browse Debian bugs ? | 07:39 |
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| zyga | hello | 08:02 |
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| mdke | muadda, no, debian doesn't use launchpad | 08:14 |
| muadda | mdke, malone/launchpad cannot look bugs in the debian BTS database? | 08:15 |
| mdke | muadda, no | 08:16 |
| muadda | If a project has already a bugzilla and want to keep its bugzilla... can malone communicate with this bugzilla ? | 08:17 |
| mdke | muadda, I don't know, i don't think so. What do you mean by communicate? | 08:22 |
| muadda | I'm trying to understand the malone concept ;) If I report a bug on malone and I click on the "Request fix Upstream" link, malone may know the upstream bugzilla and automatically open the bug on the upstream bugzilla. Can malone do that ? | 08:25 |
| muadda | and if upstream authors add some comments on their bugzilla, these comments may be available on the malone page (?) | 08:26 |
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| mdke | muadda, the idea is that if the upstream project uses malone too, the bug can be reported there. If it doesn't, the Request fix Upstream is pretty useless right now, afaik | 08:40 |
| muadda | mdke, ok, I understand better now. Thanks | 08:41 |
| mdke | muadda, np, lots of people are confused by that. Because it is confusing :) | 08:42 |
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