[12:04] ...Portage...it..is...horribly inefficient... [12:05] not the compiling thing...but the thing for when you emerge sync, it downloads every file in the Portage tree... [12:05] no it doesnt [12:05] it rsyncs it === Kyral falls down [12:06] still ineffiecent... === Kyral goes to load GoboLinux in a VM [12:07] if you do it every day, rsync should be quite efficient [12:08] debian/ubuntu still downloads the whole Packages.gz, so it's not necessarily better [12:08] Packages.gz tends to be smaller... === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === thierry_ [n=thierry@modemcable051.65-131-66.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:42] slomo_ : are you there? [12:46] any MOTU who could review my package? [12:46] url? [12:47] http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1572 [12:47] note that I can't log in to comment due to gpg key issues, but I can certainly note comments [12:48] k thanks, anyway you did the last comments and I uploaded next to that === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:52] thierry_: few minor misspellings in debian/libfxruby1.4.1.docbook [12:52] ("library") [12:52] k... like what? [12:52] ho... [12:52] must be my french side who has difficulty to right english properly :) [12:53] ;) [12:53] anything other errors like that? [12:53] also, try to be consistent with the URIs [12:53] ? [12:53] For more information about Ruby, see http://www.ruby-lang.org/ . [12:53] For more information about FOX, see http://fox-toolkit.org/ . [12:54] what more could I say? [12:54] the issue is the missing "http://" for the Ruby line [12:55] (consistency) [12:56] in debian/copyright, there's a stray ` on line referring to /usr/share/common-licenses/LGPL [12:59] you'll need to make the same adjustments to debian/control's Descriptions (as far as the URI consistency issue is concerned) [01:01] k [01:01] that's all? [01:01] coming back in 10 minutes [01:02] it ftbfs in a current dapper pbuilder [01:03] it dies trying to compile core_wrap.cpp with: include/FXRuby.h:197: error: redefinition of 'VALUE to_ruby(long unsigned int)' [01:04] (this is on amd64) [01:04] otherwise the packaging looks fine === crimsun leaves for the evening === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa25.7.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:50] hi MOTU [01:50] I got few questions about REVU [01:51] could someone tell me where can I find my uploads to REVU? [01:52] I uploaded package.. and have no idea why it doesn't show on tauware.de [01:53] hmm [01:54] marcin`: what's the name of the package? [01:54] LaserJock_away: emacs-circe [01:55] another thing is that I have no idea how to.... log into revu.tauware.de... [01:55] marcin`: you can after your first upload [01:56] marcin`: did you upload a source package? [01:56] LaserJock: yes [01:56] LaserJock: you mean *_source.changes file? [01:56] marcin`: and you sent your gpg key? [01:57] LaserJock: yup [01:57] LaserJock: it's required for upload [01:58] but you sent it to keyring@tiber.tauware.de ? [02:01] marcin`: ^^ ? [02:01] LaserJock: I got mail from Stefan Potyra [02:01] ok [02:01] LaserJock: and he says that he added my key to keyring [02:01] LaserJock: and I should be able to make uploads and that's true [02:01] LaserJock: because I really could upload signed package to revu with dput [02:02] ok, so did dput give you any errors? [02:02] LaserJock: hmm I don't remember, I don't think so [02:02] LaserJock: result was successfull [02:03] LaserJock: I can upload this package again... [02:04] marcin`: how long has it been? [02:04] LaserJock: well dput emacs-circe*_source.changes [02:04] LaserJock: says [02:04] LaserJock: Already uploaded to upload.ubuntu.com [02:05] oh, you sent it to Ubuntu [02:05] you need to do something like "dput revu *.changes" [02:05] note the "revu" part [02:07] marcin`: does that make sense? [02:07] LaserJock: hmm ok === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:10] LaserJock: ehh it wat my fault [02:11] LaserJock: I forgot to configure /etc/dput.cf correctly [02:11] LaserJock: sorry and thanks for help [02:11] well, at least you found the problem [02:12] marcin`: I see it on REVU now :-) [02:13] hmm === Kyral might have to use SuSE for a server soon... [02:14] LaserJock: yes I do too [02:14] LaserJock: and now I got password for revu... [02:14] great [02:14] marcin`: you should check out the lintian output [02:16] LaserJock: I just did it [02:17] ok, I need to go to bed now... I'm pretty tired [02:17] marcin`: I think the address for the FSF has changed in debian/copyright [02:17] marcin`: ok, np [02:18] but maybe tomorrow I'll try to upload my entire emacs infrastructure... and of course === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-96-52.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:18] I'll upload emacs-circe*0ubuntu4 with changes to make lintian happy ;) === jinty [n=jinty@G991a.g.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul_ [n=ompaul@213-202-132-251.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.155.227] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:39] so I just used a Christmas Barnes and Noble gift card to by "Python Cookbook". I looks pretty useful [02:39] It is :D [02:39] it's got some stuff on xml-rpc which is cool [02:42] maybe eventually I'll be able to write some stuff to interact with launchpad [02:42] hehe [02:43] LP++ === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:00] so what happens if a Universe package's deps are messed up? We can fix it now right? [03:01] Bug? [03:01] is that a bug? [03:01] is it filed? [03:01] hmm, I didn't even check. just a sec [03:01] What package? [03:02] oh, yeah, there is a bug [03:02] Malone bug 29220 [03:02] Malone bug 29220: "vncserver not installable because it depends on xserver-common" Fix req. for: vnc (Ubuntu), Severity: Normal, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Unconfirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29220 [03:03] it's really messing me up because I use vnc a lot [03:03] Oh, I so want to fix it. [03:03] that package exists [03:03] xserver-common [03:03] no it doesn't [03:03] Then I get to use my new @u.c address and upload privs. [03:03] yah it does [03:03] Kyral: I don't have it [03:04] Kyral: it was replaced with the lates Xorg update [03:04] xserver-common doesn't exist in dapper, according to packages.u.c [03:04] oh I haven't sync'd since this morning [03:04] it is now something like x-common or xorg-common === SloMoSnail [n=slomo@p5487DA90.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:04] well, it's been that way for a few days [03:05] Tell that to my AptCache [03:05] Kyral's apt cache: your full of crap! [03:05] ... === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-67-145-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:06] x-common exists but no xserver-common [03:07] so maybe I should fix it [03:07] I wanna! [03:07] yh just increment the Ubuntu Revision [03:07] LaserJock: I got upload privs, I'd like to test them out. :-) [03:07] G'day All [03:08] StevenK: sure, I don't have upload privs. so you will get it done faster ;-) [03:08] Ah [03:08] Kyral: no ubuntu version, so we get to diverge [03:09] For vnc? [03:09] Get:1 http://archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main vnc 3.3.7-8ubuntu1 (dsc) [696B] [03:09] vnc4 [03:09] although vnc might have the same problem [03:09] It does. [03:10] StevenK: try apt-cache rdepends xserver-common . What do you get? === StevenK chroots into dapper. [03:11] root@broken:/# apt-cache rdepends xserver-common [03:11]

[03:11] I don't quite get that [03:12] that's what I get too, but somebody in -devel the other day got a list of ~ 4 packages [03:12] StevenK: are you looking at -devel? [03:13] root@broken:/# grep-dctrl -sPackage -FDepends 'xserver-common' < /var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_dapper_universe_binary-i386_Packages [03:13] Package: meta-ul-desktop-base [03:13] Package: meta-ul-server-gui [03:13] Package: tightvncserver [03:13] Package: vnc4server [03:13] Package: vncserver [03:13] And yes, I saw that. [03:14] ok, cool [03:14] I don't know anything about meta-ul-{desktop-base,server-gui} [03:14] I wonder why apt-cache rdepends doesn't work [03:14] But I can certainly fix the three bottom packages. [03:16] well that's all I care about ;-) [03:29] hmm, stupid memory leak is really bugging me [03:31] I wonder if I do a fresh install with Flight3 would help === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:02] Kyral: ping? [04:03] ping? [04:04] Kyral: how did you figure out how to use the debian stuff from emacs? [04:04] Like Debian-Utils? [04:04] yeah [04:04] M-x deb [04:05] oh, thats pretty easy [04:05] I was thinking about an having an excursion into the dark side ;-) [04:05] ... [04:06] hmm, I seem to have a pretty stupid .emacs from somewhere [04:07] lol [04:08] everything is bright blue [04:08] lol [04:08] rm .emacs ;P [04:08] yeah, I think I have another (or 2) .emacs I can try :-) [04:10] Kyral: are you using the emacs snapshot? [04:10] I dunno [04:10] lol [04:10] last I knew I had emacs21-nox installed [04:12] Blah, my upload was REJECTed. [04:12] hah [04:12] Due to no key, so now I need to bug elmo again. [04:13] dang, my aptitude seems to be really messed up === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:13] lol [04:15] StevenK: you gotta get vnc working again, all of my console apps are in bad shape :-( [04:17] lol [04:17] FreeNX [04:20] does that work well? [04:20] yah [04:20] better than VNC? [04:20] yah [04:20] and SECURE [04:21] Kyral: amd64 ?? [04:21] x86 === Yagisan cries [04:23] Kyral: where do you get it from? [04:24] Kyral: why no amd64 ? [04:24] wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX [04:24] doh === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-41-230.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:29] does freenx support ssl? [04:34] psusi: AFAIK it runs on SSH only [04:35] bah === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:45] well, I'll see how it goes [04:58] hmm, I can't seem to get nx to go through my ssh tunnel (or I'm doing it wrong). === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:07] grr, freenx hates me [05:07] afternoon [05:07] afternoon ajmitch [05:08] nice & toasty warm there today? [05:08] I heard it was hot in melbourne [05:09] ajmitch: it's about 30 here in Sydney where I am [05:09] hm [05:09] LaserJock, you are pointing the client to 127.0.0.1 right? [05:09] my friend in melbourne was expecting up to 43 there === psusi doesn't like ssh tunnels [05:10] ssl or ipsec are way better === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-41-230.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bmonty [n=bmontgom@ubuntu/member/bmonty] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:17] psusi: I have to connect through another computer to get to my FreeNX server computer. A ssh tunnel should work for that right? [05:18] hi bmonty [05:18] hey Laserjock [05:19] evening everyone === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:19] LaserJock, what do you mean "through" another computer? [05:20] when you set up an ssh tunnel, the ssh client listens on localhost and forwards any connections it gets, so you need to tell freenx to connect to localhost [05:20] psusi: I have to log into one computer (the uni server) and from there log into my machine [05:20] both with ssh? why two steps? [05:21] psusi: both with ssh, because it is department policy === Am|NickTaken [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:21] that's.... about gay... heh [05:21] we can't connect to outside computers directly [05:21] but you should be able to tunnel from localhost to x, then tunnel from x to y [05:21] what nazi decided you shouldn't be able to do that? [05:21] <\sh> moins [05:22] psusi: all the Windows IT guys that get viruses on a daily basis, and the same guys that closed the .torrent and irc ports [05:22] hey \sh [05:22] bit torrent can use any port the client chooses... as can irc... but yea... that says enough about the type... morons in other words === Amaranth [n=travis@ubuntu/member/amaranth] has left #ubuntu-motu ["Leaving"] [05:23] are you sure they have port forwarding enabled on the server then? [05:23] psusi: well, soon I will have an iMac at work and I can bring the Ubuntu box home [05:23] LaserJock: intel imac? [05:23] psusi: I can use VNC by setting up a tunnel [05:23] Amaranth: yes [05:24] ok, then freenx should work the same way [05:24] psusi: well, I thought so [05:24] LaserJock: kick ass [05:24] btw... do they let traffic out on port 80? [05:24] Amaranth: I hope so, we got 2 [05:24] <\sh> openmotif is so broken bah [05:24] psusi: yes [05:24] LaserJock: everything i've seen says they're fast as hell [05:25] Amaranth: I'm a little worried about their support for older PPC software [05:25] Amaranth: and of course I can't install Ubuntu on it yet [05:25] get a machine outside their retarded network to run an openssl s_server on port 80 tied to a pppd then ppp over ssl to it on port 80 ;) [05:25] as long as the software doesn't touch mach, the partition layout, etc it should be fine [05:26] psusi: ppp over tcp/ip is evil [05:26] iow as long as they stuck to carbon and cocoa [05:26] psusi: well, all I have is Windows on the outside until I bring home my work box [05:26] In general I have found that network admins get upset when you take active measures to circumvent their rules [05:26] ajmitch, it's better than most proprietary VPN solutions [05:26] LaserJock: just tell us where to find these systems - we'll open those ports for you >:) [05:26] in general i've found that network admins that do things like that don't know enough to catch you [05:27] ajmitch: umm - don't you use pppoe to connect to the net ? [05:27] Yagisan: pppoa [05:27] bmonty, that's the point... if they upset you with their asanine draconian rules, upset them back.. [05:27] ajmitch: it's about the same overhead [05:27] Yagisan: I'm meaning the slowdown of having tcp over tcp [05:27] <\sh> well...I leave it to the debian maintainer, to fix the breakage...when they deal with modular xorg [05:28] and yea.. if they are stupid enough to believe they are doing some good with those measures, they are too stupid to catch you getting around them ;) [05:28] well, luckily freenode has 8001 open so I can irc from work [05:28] where a slight slowdown in the base level causes issues [05:28] ppp over what? what's the a? [05:28] pppoe = gay [05:28] ajmitch: ah - I've done things like tcp over udp to get through restrictive networks like that [05:28] atm [05:29] tcp over udp isn't nearly so bad [05:29] psusi: I disagree, I generally think the policy of disallow all and allow by exception is the way to go [05:29] <\sh> bah..watching a movie :) [05:29] pppoe exists soley for the reason that ISPs are stupid and want to use an ethernet network but still have their customers "log in" [05:29] psusi: yes - so they can charge you for every little bit of data that passes over their network [05:29] especially on a production network [05:29] bmonty, for incoming connections sure... not for outgoing... users want to get where they want to go... trying to stop them is futile and annoying [05:30] psusi: well - I block outgoing too actually [05:30] Yagisan, which they could very well account for without pppoe [05:30] except when they are trying to use apps that have the potential to increase risk [05:30] hmm, I can't even get nxsetup to work so maybe I have bigger issues [05:30] why is packages.ubuntu.com lagging lately? [05:31] Mez: because it's not run by canonical but it's a separate project? [05:31] is it? [05:31] oh [05:31] Mez: at leasts it's better than packages.debian.org ;-) [05:31] anyone having issues using network configuration? [05:31] time to test my custum dmraided flight 3 install cd... bbiab [05:32] yeah, p.d.o going down was upsetting to me this morning :( [05:32] StevenK: so you have to wait for elmo to be able to upload? === Yagisan wonders why people insult networking protocols with homophobic insults [05:37] does it make sense to set up a tunnel for port 22 when ssh is running on port 22? [05:37] outbound traffic isn't on port 22 [05:38] bmonty: ? I'm not very good with networking [05:38] LaserJock: the purpose of the tunnel is to circumvent your network's firewall rules, right? [05:38] no [05:39] it's because I can't directly connect to my computer [05:39] I have to connect to the departments server first [05:40] so you are creating tunnels for all the protocols you want to use? [05:40] well, I'm trying to get FreeNX to work, which uses port 22 [05:42] I don't know about FreeNX, but I'm assuming you can tell it to connect to a port other than 22? [05:43] I was using VNC but now vnc can't be installed because of an unmet dep, so in the mean time I was trying to check out FreeNX but it is turning into a major project [05:43] bmonty: well, in that case I might run into the firewall problem [05:44] so you want a tunnel from the department server to connect to your home machine on 22, and some other port on the department server to connect FreeNX to [05:44] hmm, makes sense [05:45] but I'm not sure why port 22 doesn't work [05:45] but I think I also might have other problems with the setup === minghua [n=minghua@danube.mems.rice.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:45] two guesses....one it is already being used by the ssh server and two you might not have enough privledge to open port 22 [05:45] I think I shoulda just built vnc4 from source ;-) === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:46] blast.... === psusi needs to figure out how debian-installer's hardware detection works [05:46] LaserJock: you are using something like "ssh -R 32400:home-machine:22" ? [05:47] not right now, no [05:48] if you used that command, you would tell FreeNX to connect to 32400 on the department server and it would be forwarded to port 22 on your home machine [05:52] hmm - anyone tried installing ubuntu on a system with no floppy or cdrom, and no existing os ? [05:54] why not just install a cdrom? [05:54] they are <$40 for a DVD burner on newegg.com [05:54] with shipping [05:54] Yagisan, so what IS availible? :) [05:54] Yagisan, usb stick? [05:55] Yagisan: netboot? not sure ubuntu has that option though [05:55] bmonty: because I can't find one - I need a box up and ruuning to help fix a problem, and it's getting built out of leftovers [05:55] debian-installer appears to support netboot [05:55] so ubuntu should too === Yagisan will give it a shot [05:56] Yagisan, plug the hard drive into a machine that already has ubuntu on it and install that way ;) [05:56] you still need an FTP server to host your files and images though [05:56] btw bmonty $40US is worth more then the whole pc at this point [05:57] Yagisan: well good luck [05:57] thanks - this will be fun. === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:58] now to grab a spare netcard out of the firewall - back later [06:06] anyone know of a python debugger that can provide command line arguments or connect to a running process? === Kyral [n=kyral@hamlin-169-5592.hamlin.clarkson.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:32] lol, I was able to kill my ssh server but I still can't get FreeNX to work. I can't even get it to setup correctly. I just doesn't like my ssh === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:35] well, I'm going to try to get my install back to where it was and build vnc4 from scratch === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.247.104] has joined #ubuntu-motu === crimsun_ [n=crimsun@cpe-066-056-187-199.triad.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.11.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:29] Oh bugger. Now vnc4 doesn't build from source. [07:31] why suddenly everybody is starting to play with vnc4? === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === abelcheung_ [n=abelcheu@221.126.154.93] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru [n=poningru@n128-227-13-82.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu === TheMuso [n=luke@dsl-202-173-132-131.nsw.westnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === otep [n=demo@AP-203.167.31.158.sysads.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@d154-5-117-228.bchsia.telus.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === deaddog [n=abelcheu@221.126.155.25] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.8] has joined #ubuntu-motu === poningru_ [n=poningru@n128-227-1-229.xlate.ufl.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:48] I'm gone til Tuesday, flying to Washington, D.C. for meetings === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ptlo [n=senko@83-131-21-115.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pef [n=loic@ubuntu/member/pef] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:22] hello === minghua [n=minghua@69-153-139-23.dsl.hstntx.swbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:38] opensync is now at the two week point [10:38] sigh [10:38] two week point? [10:38] in NEW [10:38] ah [10:39] lifeless: upload 0.18-0ubuntu1 to ubuntu, and sync over later [10:39] siretart: I cannot upload to ubuntu. [10:40] lifeless: I'll sponsor you happily :) [10:40] we're past UVF anyway [10:40] but before FF [10:40] so I'm not panicing, just bitching... [10:40] new packages are allowed before FF === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@213-202-132-251.bas502.dsl.esat.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@Ga13e.g.pppool.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #ubuntu-motu === xophEr [n=xopher@a84-230-124-206.elisa-laajakaista.fi] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.80.144] has joined #ubuntu-motu === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:02] siretart: ping [12:04] hi all [12:05] Mez: pong [12:05] hi zakame [12:06] heya siretart :) === zyga [n=zyga@ubuntu/member/zyga] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:07] siretart: er - your comment on the rar bug ? [12:07] it was saying that the source was there? [12:07] or asking for that to be fixed too ? [12:07] Mez: just that the source is in debian/non-free [12:08] not source ... [12:08] they have binary packages in there [12:08] rar doesnt distribute it's source [12:08] it's just binary stuff built by rarlabs [12:09] ah, sure [12:09] anyways - it's fixed (and I seem to now be adopting the godamn thing! === phanatic [n=phanatic@dsl51B69C6C.pool.t-online.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:10] hi people [12:11] heya phanatic [12:11] Mez: did you set yourself in the maintainer field? ;) [12:12] siretart not in the ubuntu upload ;) [12:12] though technically I should have [12:12] 1) the package was changed specifically for ubuntu with the first update in nearly 2 years [12:13] and 2 I'm adopting it [12:13] zakame: i updated the nanoweb package: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1579 [12:13] though - well - I didnt know that till after I uploaded [12:13] is it now recommended for MOTU-modified Debian packages to change the Maintainer field (sorry, not been into reading {d,u}-devel and -motu) [12:13] ? [12:13] phanatic: checking [12:13] Mez: to avoid further discussion and confusion, just upload another one with you as maintainer [12:14] zakame: we didn't agree on anything yet [12:14] siretart: "further discussion and confusion" [12:14] zakame: thanks [12:14] ?? [12:14] Mez: see the flamewars the last week [12:14] siretart, I doubt that anyone will be watching what I'm doing lol [12:14] Mez: if you care for it, just hijack it [12:14] and there was nothing there [12:14] ah [12:15] siretart: I'm officially adopting it in debian ;) [12:15] so no need to hijack [12:15] Mez: oh. even better :) [12:15] just wait for a sponsor ;) [12:15] lol - because chris and I talked about it earlier :D lol - and well - shrugs* [12:15] Mez: by all means hijack it [12:15] zakame: there have been some packages, which we adopted in ubuntu. gajim comes to mind [12:15] I'm taking it over case he hasnt got time [12:16] Debian doesn't care about non-free packages anyway [12:16] minghua: there no point in just uploading a hijack ;) [12:16] zakame: in my opinion, we should use this possibility more often. but no, we didn't agree on that yet [12:16] minghua: if i COULD hijacj t I would [12:16] lol [12:16] but - I need a sponsor [12:16] once I'm a DD ... *shrugs* it'll be fine [12:16] Mez: I mean hijack it on the ubuntu side [12:17] don't leave the previous Debian maintainer's name in the Maintainer: field [12:17] siretart: hmm, I haven't thought of it much really, but I'm inclined to agree with you [12:17] minghua: lol ;) === siretart lunch - cu === pappan [n=garbage@bgepxyout-02.asiapac.hp.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@d076016.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:19] pakain! :D [12:19] er ECHAN === ealden [n=ealden@203.76.228.105] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Mez: going to be a DD? === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.11.156] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:38] Mez: why not point the debian-mentors list to your ubuntu package? [12:38] sivang, one day [12:38] Mez: :) [12:38] Mez: usually a RFS need to have packages ready anyway [12:38] minghua: you mean point them to where I made the changes? [12:39] minghua: ah well I'm jsut packaging it up atm lol - then gonna upload to mentors [12:39]