[12:00] <einPaule> can anyone tell me how to set up grub on a CD / Diskette?
[12:00] <mxpxpod> cartesian1984: ok, it has something to do with the latest kernel
[12:00] <tatters> hmm sbackup isnt in the main repos?
[12:00] <soundray> einPaule, I can tell you where it's documented :)
[12:00] <_jason> tatters: oh misread thought you wanted to back up packages, use what others are suggesting
[12:00] <cafuego> !info sbackup
[12:00] <ubotu> sbackup: (Simple Backup Suite for desktop use), section universe/admin, is optional. Version: 0.8-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 35 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[12:00] <pianoboy3333> mwe: now even epiphany and ff 1.0.7 crap out after a while, i'm so frustrated
[12:00] <einPaule> That would be great...
[12:00] <cartesian1984> mxpxpod, oh, I have no idea then
[12:01] <cafuego> tatters: universe.
[12:01] <honey|me> metalhedd well i dont need any graphical manager , i can also search on terminal for packages
[12:01] <tatters> no just make a full backup bfr I destroy it
[12:01] <cafuego> tatters: I suppose the main repo has 'tar' and 'gzip ' ;-)
[12:01] <metalhedd> honey|me, so what is your question?
[12:01] <cartesian1984> mxpxpod, sorry
[12:01] <honey|me> metalhedd whats this sudo in front of apt for ?
[12:01] <metalhedd> only root can install packages. sudo runs a command as root
[12:01] <mxpxpod> cartesian1984: don't worry about it
[12:02] <soundray> einPaule, there is a package called grub-doc. If you install this and run 'info grub', you'll eventually find step-by-step instructions for making a grub floppy.
[12:02] <einPaule> do you guys have a day-job, youve been helping everyone here for (it would seem) several consecutive hours (soundray and _jason )
[12:02] <tatters>  ok  got it tars there
[12:02] <Dr_Willis> its the weekend :P
[12:02] <cafuego> einPaule: Who has a day-jobs on the weekend?
[12:02] <_jason> einPaule: ha today is saturday, I'm just doing work and glance down once in a while for a break
[12:02] <C-O-L-T> _jason: still can not get mplayer
[12:02] <jscrilla> can anyone help me set up apache?
[12:02] <defendguin> me i try to play a song when in library view even if the song is located on the xbox hard drive it still asks me to put in a password for a smb share.  i thought i deleted all the smb shares but it keep asking me  for a username and password how do i put an end to this terrible feature?
[12:02] <soundray> einPaule, I'm dodging my own problems. :)
[12:02] <honey|me> metalhedd aha , ok
[12:02] <_jason> C-O-L-T: sudo apt-get update
[12:03] <twan> WOW
[12:03] <twan> I can't even cd to /home/twan/
[12:03] <twan> I can cd to /home/ though
[12:03] <einPaule> well my day-job of studying extends to the weekends... ok, but youre right...
[12:03] <defendguin> whoops wrong channel
[12:03] <BradM> how do you unpack a .tgz
[12:03] <tatters> ok so what basically do I tar how do I tar c: drive?
[12:03] <cafuego> BradM: double-click it
[12:04] <einPaule> soundray, join a channel where people that can help you are dodging their problems ;-)
[12:04] <twan> 'Cannot execute binary file'
[12:04] <cafuego> tatters: Use sbackup instead, probably a bit nicer.
[12:04] <twan> what does that mean
[12:04] <C-O-L-T> _jason: now what?
[12:04] <twan> i tried running an rpm
[12:04] <soundray> einPaule, have you got a suggestion? I need someone knowledgeable in nuclear magnetic resonance.
[12:04] <_jason> C-O-L-T: now follow that wiki page
[12:04] <metalhedd> _jason, when I try to run gdmsetup from the consule I get "Could not access GDM configuration file." but /etc/gdm/gdm/conf is there.
[12:04] <mcdenyer> hey when u edit your sorces list to enable multiverse and universe does it enable it for synaptic too????
[12:04] <Dr_Willis> you dont run rpm's
[12:04] <cafuego> twan: Don't install RPMs on Ubuntu.
[12:04] <drunkpikachu> ha anyone installed ubuntu on a laptop which has a hardware on/off switch for the wireless card? I seem to be having trouble with my v2000z
[12:04] <kenoutten> help with lynksys please?
[12:04] <twan> cafuego why
[12:05] <MickMcMack> Why would mplayer not install a default font for subtitles?
[12:05] <tatters> caf ive looked in synaptic for that but its not there
[12:05] <_jason> metalhedd: did you do sudo apt-get install --reinstall gdm ?
[12:05] <Dr_Willis> mcdenyer,  synaptic is a front end to the apt-get system. so yes.
[12:05] <cafuego> twan: They're not designed for it and will probably break things.
[12:05] <BradM> cafuego, you're an idiot.
[12:05] <jono> hi all
[12:05] <BradM> double click it?
[12:05] <BradM> i'm not using a gui dumbshit
[12:05] <einPaule> soundray, how about #ubuntu-offtopic ?
[12:05] <twan> just tell me how please
[12:05] <metalhedd> _jason, no, I removed it and installed it again, then I ran the reconfigure as well.
[12:05] <cafuego> BradM: Thanks for the abuse. GO ask someone else for help or ee 'man tar'.
[12:05] <twan> There is no src for it
[12:05] <twan> just an rpm
[12:05] <twan> so how do I use it
[12:05] <_jason> BradM: I'm sure everyone will rush to tell you how now...
[12:05] <BradM> cafuego, abuse? you're just an idiot
[12:05] <mcdenyer> Dr_Willis, ok i just installed breezy and i edited my sources list to allow multivers and universe
[12:05] <einPaule> There are probably some nuclear scientists there
[12:05] <jono> crazy question, I am racking my brains to remember it, but there is a gtk app that runs on windows and linux that lets you create instructional videos and save them as swf files - anyone know what it is?
[12:05] <dylan_> BradM, ndiswrapper for some reason wont install anything for me
[12:05] <BradM> you deserve to be abused
[12:05] <MickMcMack> BradM, there really is no need for that...
[12:06] <BradM> dylan_, are you trying to install a windows driver?
[12:06] <mcdenyer> Dr_Willis, and i havnt changed anything on synaptic
[12:06] <MickMcMack> BradM, and I suggest "man tar" for your problem.
[12:06] <MickMcMack> :-\
[12:06] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[12:06] <ubotu> from memory, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[12:06] <Dr_Willis> twan,  we dotn even know wht the 'rpm' you are using is for.
[12:06] <cafuego> BradM: Go read the Ubuntu Code of Conduct.
[12:06] <soundray> einPaule, I've thought about it. :)
[12:06] <BradM> cafuego, go kill yourself
[12:06] <kenoutten> help with lynksys please?  you guys are gettin' a bit mean here
[12:06] <_jason> metalhedd: sorry, I'm out of ideas with what could be going wrong
[12:07] <MickMcMack> BradM, dude, calm down... I gave you the relevant info with regards to your "problem", so drop it. :-\
[12:07] <Dr_Willis> kenoutten,  :P
[12:07] <BradM> i'm not uncalm
[12:07] <BradM> i'm reading the man page
[12:07] <BradM> kthx
[12:07] <tatters> I have a lynksys wrt54g router?
[12:07] <kenoutten> just installed ubuntu, my other laptop runn xp wont detect the network
[12:07] <MickMcMack> More to the point, cafuego mentioned tar previous to me even. :-/
[12:07] <twan> Dr_Willis: I shouldn't have to tell what the RPm is for. I just need to know how to unpack it and install it. I get the error 'cannot execute a binary file'
[12:07] <twan> what would cause this?
[12:07] <metalhedd> _jason, Where might i find log information about why no display manager is being started? or if the gdm rc script is being executed at all.
[12:07] <MickMcMack> ~cafuego++
[12:08] <MickMcMack> x( No karma.
[12:08] <cafuego> metalhedd: Check ~/.xsession-errors
[12:08] <tatters> now if if was window I could help ya lol
[12:08] <cafuego> metalhedd: No, I disabled karma (and the bot char is !)
[12:08] <soundray> cafuego, you didn't deserve that. I know you know it, but I thought I'd tell you anyway :)
[12:08] <Dr_Willis> twan, because you dont run rpmss you need to INSTALL them.
[12:08] <MickMcMack> cafuego, I am called MickMcMack, not metalhedd. >_>;;;
[12:08] <kenoutten> how can you tell if someone is answering your question?
[12:08] <mcdenyer> i did sudo apt get update and it finished and then i went into syanptic and hit mark all upgrades and it found more whats the deal?
[12:09] <cafuego> MickMcMack: I know, but that was a respnse to metalhedd's question.
[12:09] <cafuego> Ah duh :-)
[12:09] <MickMcMack> kenoutten, they'll usually prefix their response with your nick.
[12:09] <miki> anyone can help me with my ubuntu? usb wont work propertly
[12:09] <pianoboy3333> is firefox 1.5 a lot better than 1.0.7?
[12:09] <cafuego> MickMcMack: Look mate, I've only had HALF a cup of coffee sofar today :-)
[12:09] <badrunner> Evening all. Anyone having problems with the spca5xx module in dapper? I plug my cam in, it loads all the modules fine, but i can actually get anything out of it
[12:09] <mpetzsch> nhygvbhg
[12:09] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: Some say yes, some say no.
[12:10] <badrunner> s/can/cant
[12:10] <kenoutten> oh, well does anyone have any ideas why my xp laptop now doesn't detect my lynksys
[12:10] <metalhedd> cafuego, that doesn't seem likely to me, X starts fine manually, it doesn't even attempt to execute it at boot so no error would be logged by X at boot. I'm looking for an init log or something I think
[12:10] <cafuego> pianoboy3333: If 1.0.7 works, why change?
[12:10] <miki> anyone can help me with my ubuntu? usb wont work propertly
[12:10] <twan> How do I install RPM files then?
[12:10] <twan> What command should I run
[12:10] <pianoboy3333> cafuego: i had some ubuntu probs with 1.5 so, i might just stay in 1.0.7
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> pianoboy3333,  i cant tell the diff. i hear there may be a security issue or 2.
[12:10] <cafuego> metalhedd: Go you get any specific gdm errors?
[12:10] <Dr_Willis> !rpm
[12:10] <ubotu> somebody said rpm was the Redhat Package Management file. Very similar to Debians DEB files, but require alien to install. ask me about !alien
[12:10] <MickMcMack> pianoboy3333, I didn't really notice that much difference when I looked at it.
[12:10] <pianoboy3333> kk, thx
[12:10] <markybob> ubuntu does not use gnome-main-menu.png in any of the themes that i install.  it always maintains its own logo.  why is that and how can that be changed so that it follows the themes properly?
[12:10] <mcdenyer> ubuntu uses xorg not xfree86 right?
[12:10] <cafuego> twan: sudo alien <foo.rpm> will generate foo.deb. You can install the .deb.
[12:10] <twan> ubotu: !alien
[12:10] <ubotu> twan: My cat's name is Mittens!
[12:10] <metalhedd> cafuego, no, the most recent gdm log is from before i last rebooted.
[12:11] <csb> is there a way to send a text mesaage to another ubuntu user on a network
[12:11] <csb> via ip
[12:11] <markybob> mcdenyer: right
[12:11] <mcdenyer> markybob k
[12:11] <MickMcMack> csb, you could ssh in and `write`. :x
[12:11] <twan> syntax error near expected token newline'
[12:11] <twan> how else can I do it
[12:11] <mcdenyer> im installing a ati driver should i run xorg config before i install the driver or after?
[12:11] <badrunner> csb: write and talk can do that
[12:11] <cafuego> twan: What .rpm is it anyway?
[12:11] <tatters> http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/Release.gpg: Bad header line <--- what that mean when I add universal to my repository?
[12:11] <_jason> mcdenyer: are you referring the icon in the upper right?  the ubuntu logo?
[12:11] <twan> LimeWire
[12:12] <cafuego> !limewire
[12:12] <ubotu> limewire is probably first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[12:12] <metalhedd> cafuego, its like the init system can't start gdm, but afaik its set to start at boot.  it must be linked to how gdmsetup can't access its config file. but the file is in /etc/gdm/gdm/conf. maybe its looking somewhere else but I have no idea where.
[12:12] <MickMcMack> twan, limewire is a Java app, there's no need to "install" it.
[12:12] <cafuego> twan: Go to that page, follow the instructions.
[12:12] <twan> ok
[12:12] <nig> i have xp in C drive NTFS, an hda1 icon on my ubuntu desktop, but i can't enter hda1,how can i enter
[12:12] <csb> what is the sytnax for write or talk?
[12:12] <MickMcMack> csb, write <username>
[12:12] <csb> this is just a friend on the other side of the room
[12:12] <MickMcMack> If I remember correctly.
[12:12] <twan> how do I unpack .zip
[12:12] <csb> how about via ip?
[12:12] <MickMcMack> twan, unzip
[12:13] <mcdenyer> _jason mmmm no what are you talking about lol
[12:13] <cafuego> twan: Does it also fail if you run the init script by hand?
[12:13] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Does OpenOffice use Cairo yet?
[12:13] <twan> i think I got it
[12:13] <twan> hang on
[12:13] <dylan_> BradM, when i try to install the drivers for my device using ndiswrapper, it tells me its invalid and that i must be root, even though i used sudo su and became root beforehand.  i tried doing modprobe ndiswrapper but i got the following message:  FATAL: Error inserting ndiswrapper (/lib/modules/2.6.12-9-386/kernel/drivers/net/ndiswrapper/ndiswrapper.ko): Operation not permitted
[12:13] <kenoutten> my xp laptop wont pickup my lynksys router anymore
[12:13] <MickMcMack> csb, ssh into his machine (via ip), then who, then write <username>
[12:13] <mcdenyer> when i installed ubuntu it autmatically found my ntfs which sucks because i now dont have permissions to it
[12:14] <MickMcMack> csb, if he's on the other side of the room, you may want to try the "speech" application that comes as standard with every install.
[12:14] <MickMcMack> >_>
[12:14] <_jason> mcdenyer: ok I meant markybob sorry :)(
[12:14] <twan> ok
[12:14] <twan> i didn't install java in the default directory
[12:14] <Biscuitian_Warhe> mcdenyer: Just edit your fstab so that it mounts it for all users
[12:14] <_jason> markybob:  are you referring the icon in the upper right?  the ubuntu logo?
[12:14] <twan> so how do I change limewire to look in the right directory
[12:14] <mcdenyer> _jason im about to install an ati driver but should i run xorg config first or after i install the driver?
[12:14] <twan> edit the source?
[12:14] <dylan_> can somebody help me with my ndiswrapper issues?
[12:14] <_jason> mcdenyer: I don't have ati, if you follow the wiki page you should be good to go
[12:15] <Biscuitian_Warhe> Is anyone having luck with the ATI driver and a Radeon 300x
[12:15] <markybob> _jason: no.  i dont use the menu bar.  instead i use the main menu drop down...but yes, it's the same logo in both.
[12:15] <mcdenyer> !ati
[12:15] <ubotu> I guess ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:15] <cafuego> Biscuitian_Warhe: No.
[12:15] <_jason> markybob: I use that as well, take a look at /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[12:15] <cartesian1984> Biscuitian_Warhe, I haven't been able to get direct rendering
[12:15] <csb> MickMcMack : where is the speech app?
[12:15] <_jason> markybob: if you remove it, it will default to the gnome foot.  I don't know if that will then allow themes to 'take it over'
[12:16] <mcdenyer> _jason, i ran sudo apt-get update and then i went into synaptic and hit mark all upgrades and it found more upgrades :/
[12:16] <markybob> _jason: aint that something.  thanks man :)
[12:16] <dylan_> ubotu, tell dylan_  about ndiswrapper
[12:16] <MickMcMack> csb, please PLEASE tell me you didn't take that seriously...
[12:17] <twan> ok
[12:17] <csb> oh no sorry. i see
[12:17] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[12:17] <ubotu> somebody said multimedia was for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[12:17] <twan> I can't edit the file in /home/twan/limewire/
[12:17] <cyphase> what does VoIP sound like to someone who doesn't know what it is?
[12:17] <twan> to make it run right
[12:17] <csb> mickmcmac: no i want to just have a message poop up on the machine
[12:17] <cafuego> The speech app is called festival.
[12:17] <twan> i'm trying to save it from kat
[12:17] <csb> you can do it in windows
[12:17] <twan> what should I do
[12:17] <MickMcMack> csb, I told you how to do it up there. ^
[12:17] <csb> mickmcmack: so i have to log into the machine? there is not jsut a way to send a text message to an ip?
[12:18] <_jason> csb: do you know how much spam you would get if that was possible?
[12:18] <cafuego> cyphase: skype sounds like a 1980's phone. Other implementations sound better :-)
[12:18] <MickMcMack> csb, not that I know of.
[12:18] <twan> YEs
[12:18] <csb> wierd
[12:18] <twan> LIMEWIRE IS WORKIN HOMIE
[12:18] <csb> ok, well thanks anyway
[12:19] <MickMcMack> csb, yep there is, it's called gaim.
[12:19] <MickMcMack> Oh wait, he left. :(
[12:19] <miki> anyone can help me with my ubuntu? usb wont work propertly
[12:19] <mcdenyer> should i do sudp apt-get install update or just sudo apt-get update?
[12:19] <twan> ok
[12:19] <cyphase> cafuego, i don't mean the quality
[12:19] <MickMcMack> mcdenyer, the latter.
[12:19] <twan> Limewire screen I don't see it
[12:19] <cyphase> i mean the word
[12:19] <twan> maybe its still loading?
[12:20] <cafuego> cyphase: That varies too <heh>
[12:20] <cyphase> give me an exmaple
[12:20] <cafuego> Normally it would rhyme with royp
[12:20] <cr1mson> How do I play .mp3's with Ubuntu?
[12:20] <cyphase> lol
[12:20] <cyphase> i'm not being to clear i think
[12:20] <cyphase> Joe has never heard the word voip before..
[12:21] <cyphase> and i say it to him
[12:21] <cyphase> whjat does he think it is?
[12:21] <MickMcMack> cr1mson, try mplayer <mp3 file>
[12:21] <tech9iner> g'day all.. been 'chuckling' meself up last 24 recalling fav line from movie my cousin vinny w pesche?.. courtroom scene and his 'yute' slang for youth.. lol.. <tech9 waves pompously over all here> henceforth i now christen all blokes present 'yutes' .. i know iknow.. lame! rofl
[12:21] <cafuego> cyphase: Soem kind of processed cheese?
[12:21] <cyphase> thank you
[12:21] <cyphase> :)
[12:21] <stuart_> how do i register my name on here
[12:21] <mcdenyer> i cant access my ntfs that was mounted when i installed ubuntu what do i do?
[12:21] <mwe> !register
[12:21] <ubotu> I guess register is type /msg nickserv help register (you probably should do this in the server window so that if you mess up you won't reveal your password to the whole channel :))
[12:21] <MickMcMack> stew, /msg nickserv help register
[12:21] <mcdenyer> it auto mounted it and now i dont have permissions to it
[12:21] <yoster> hi\
[12:21] <MickMcMack> Damnit. :x
[12:22] <cr1mson> MickMcMack, bash: mplayer: command not found
[12:22] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, you need to install the w32 codecs
[12:22] <MickMcMack> cr1mson, sudo apt-get install mplayer
[12:23] <stuart_> im having same problems with permisions to my ntfs folders
[12:23] <cr1mson> MickMcMack, I tried Totem Movie Player but it says I need a decoder
[12:23] <stuart_> thanks mickmack ill try it how do i get to server window
[12:23] <tech9iner> 
[12:23] <cr1mson> MickMcMack, also, i dont have the mplayer package
[12:23] <tech9iner> ruh roh
[12:23] <mcdenyer> i wish breezy hadnt mounted it when i installed
[12:23] <twan> now my sound isn't working....
[12:23] <twan> wtf....
[12:23] <MickMcMack> cr1mson, try installing the mplayer package.
[12:23] <twan> i downloaded a song and it won't play
[12:24] <MickMcMack> It comes with codecs, iirc.
[12:24] <twan> can I test sound another way
[12:24] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, how do i install w32 codecs?
[12:24] <MickMcMack> cr1mson, if you don't mind bloatware, also try VLC.
[12:24] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, add this line to your /etc/apt/sources.list 'deb http://vdeffontaines.free.fr/debian/dists/ unstable/
[12:24] <cartesian1984> deb-src http://vdeffontaines.free.fr/debian/dists/ unstable/
[12:24] <cartesian1984> '
[12:24] <cartesian1984> or rather those two lines
[12:24] <twan> ok my sound has been disabled again
[12:24] <twan> it was working earlier
[12:24] <twan> i don't get whats so good about linux here, i'm running into nothing but problems
[12:25] <Comrade_Sergei> how do i set my name to a admin again
[12:25] <miki> linux 5.10 is warty?
[12:25] <thenuke> twan: well, maybe those who are not complaining, are those who know what hardware works with linux
[12:25] <kriz> hi guys
[12:26] <thenuke> twan: those also might use some better distro than ubuntu
[12:26] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, i added to source-list, now what
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> It pays to have the right hardware.
[12:26] <cartesian1984> miki, no, Ubuntu 5.10 is breezy
[12:26] <kriz> Ubuntuforums seem to be down.
[12:26] <mwe> twan: don't use it if you don't like it
[12:26] <miki> ok
[12:26] <Dr_Willis> "problem exists between keyboard and chair"    :)
[12:26] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, do a 'sudo apt-get update'
[12:26] <lilalinux> what is the ubuntu way of telling X to use the usb mouse instead of the touchpad?
[12:26] <lilalinux> or shall i edit the config manually?
[12:26] <mojo_> anyone good here with the samba networking?  I have probs getting it to work.  I have the exact same smb.conf working fine in a Dapper AMD64 test install, but it is _not_ working in a Breezy i386 install (my main working one) on the same computer.  Any ideas, or should I be looking for a #samba or some such channel?
[12:26] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, ok, done
[12:27] <mcdenyer> what is a kernel?
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> lilalinux,  hmm.. my laptop was set to use both. and i dident mess with it.
[12:27] <mcdenyer> !kernel
[12:27] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, now do a sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[12:27] <twan> well i'm trying to get sound working
[12:27] <twan> do I need amaroK going?
[12:27] <Comrade_Sergei> cr1mson how do i set my name to the admin status
[12:27] <mcdenyer> !kernel
[12:27] <Comrade_Sergei> oh nm
[12:27] <cartesian1984> mcdenyer, its the central portion of the operating system, the most basic component
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  you did set up a samba password for the users?
[12:27] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: yes i had.
[12:27] <cartesian1984> mcdenyer, it handles the interaction between processes and the use of hardware
[12:28] <lilalinux> Dr_Willis: hm, mine not
[12:28] <Xenguy> mcdenyer: the core
[12:28] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, couldn't find w32codecs
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  could enable verbose logging of the samba service and check the logs.
[12:28] <Comrade_Sergei> hey! how do i set my account to admin
[12:28] <cr1mson> Comrade_Sergei, you're login name?
[12:28] <mojo_> mojo_: I can't even get the computer to show up in browse list, and can see no other computers.
[12:28] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, one sec, ill check the package name
[12:28] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay
[12:28] <Comrade_Sergei> cr1mson yea
[12:28] <Comrade_Sergei> to a admin account
[12:28] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  i rember some gnome issue that wouldent show shares when browsing.. try an alternative samba browser tool
[12:29] <mcdenyer> how do i install the linux restricted modules package?
[12:29] <twan> wow...can anyone tell me why my sound wouldn't work?
[12:29] <cr1mson> Comrade_Sergei, Try System / Administator / Users Groups
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  like smb4k, or.. Hmm cant think of others
[12:29] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, go into synaptic and search for w32
[12:29] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay
[12:29] <Dr_Willis> twan,  if it was just working then stopped - could be 2 programs are both trying to access the sound device at the same time.
[12:29] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: I can check on smb4k...
[12:29] <twan> i have aim and konversation
[12:29] <twan> maybe that happened.....
[12:29] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, oh crap, I gave you the wrong repos
[12:29] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, 0 packages listed
[12:30] <twan> should I try closing gaim?
[12:30] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, no harm done, but that would explain it
[12:30] <saif> hello all, i just got wireless installed on ubuntu, and the signal for my wifi keeps changing from 100% to 0% , is that normal?! this happeneing when i cam 30 cms away from source
[12:30] <cr1mson> cartesian1984,  no problem, what repos
[12:30] <icem> herkeze selamlar
[12:30] <mcdenyer> when reading a tut and it says "this commmand wont take affect until you reboot" do i need to reboot before i goto the next step or can i just reboot at the end?
[12:30] <icem> vede ampiyon fener
[12:30] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: smb4k is installing now...
[12:30] <Seveas> mcdenyer, depends on the command
[12:30] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, add these 'deb http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:30] <cartesian1984> ' 'deb-src http://packages.freecontrib.org/ubuntu/plf/ breezy free non-free
[12:30] <cartesian1984> '
[12:30] <twan> what does wine stand for
[12:30] <Seveas> icem, please stick to english
[12:31] <mattwestm> how do I install libstdc++.so.5?
[12:31] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, just a minute
[12:31] <MickMcMack> twan, windows-emulator, iirc.
[12:31] <twan> mattwestm, go to adept
[12:31] <Dr_Willis> !info wine
[12:31] <Seveas> mattwestm, apt-get isntall linstdc++5
[12:31] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[12:31] <earobinson> wine is not an emulator
[12:31] <grae_> hello there anyone know about codeblocks and how to install it and get it working? wow this is an active irc
[12:31] <Seveas> !seen sabdfl
[12:31] <ubotu> Seveas: i haven't seen 'sabdfl'
[12:31] <mwe> twan: it stands for wine is not an emulator
[12:31] <cafuego> Seveas: He's prolly having lunch.
[12:32] <Seveas> cafuego, haya
[12:32] <bjv> what is the name of the main serial port in ubuntu?
[12:32] <mcdenyer> Seveas, well could u look at somethign real quick for me
[12:32] <kriz> hey guys
[12:32] <bjv>  /dev/ttyS1 ?
[12:32] <kriz> How do I fix my grub?
[12:32] <kriz> It says that it dosn't recognize the filesystem
[12:32] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, that worked but i tried to install win32codecs again and got Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it? <<-- how do i fix that
[12:32] <Seveas> mcdenyer, just ask
[12:33] <idefix_> who are user cupsys and hal?
[12:33] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: Okay that is a start... it shows my self, but I am not in the right workgroup.  I have to change the smb.conf to match the other pcs and will try again.  but for now i can't see them at all yet.  I would think i could see other wg's on the net... :/
[12:33] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, is synaptic or updates open?
[12:33] <mwe> kriz: has it worked before?
[12:33] <Comrade_Sergei> seveas how do i change my account to a admin one
[12:33] <mcdenyer> Seveas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI ok go there and look at step two under hoay and breezy install
[12:33] <kriz> yes
[12:33] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, updates
[12:33] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, because those use apt too
[12:33] <idefix_> !group
[12:33] <ubotu> idefix_: Syntax error in line 1
[12:33] <Seveas> Comrade_Sergei, you can temporarily become root with the command sudo -i
[12:33] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, close it, or wait for it to finish, and then it will be fine
[12:33] <mwe> kriz: and what happened?
[12:33] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  heh - cant tell ya miuch more.. samba is the kind of thing ya just got to  jump on and beat to death soem times.
[12:33] <kriz> wme, it became "corrupted" or whatever word you want to use, after the kernel upgrade
[12:34] <mcdenyer> Seveas, do i just type that command into terminal and then reboot or what and theres along note under the command that i dont know if applikes to me
[12:34] <Seveas> mcdenyer, that'll work without rebooting
[12:34] <AlinuxOS> someone from gnome translators team?
[12:34] <mwe> kriz: your previous kernel should be in the grub boot menu
[12:34] <Seveas> just do the depmod / modprobe trick
[12:34] <kriz> right now I am using KNoppix STD live CD
[12:34] <idefix_> uboto sometimes pulls your leg, doesn't it?
[12:34] <Comrade_Sergei> seveas no i want to make it a admin account
[12:34] <mcdenyer> Seveas, ok ty
[12:34] <kriz> Well, yeah. The thing is the ALL the kernel got affected
[12:34] <bjv> !testing serial ports
[12:34] <ubotu> bjv: Not a clue
[12:34] <bjv> !serial ports
[12:34] <ubotu> bjv: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[12:35] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, i tried using synaptic to install, ran into NOT AUTHENTICATED... << -- is that okay?
[12:35] <Seveas> Comrade_Sergei, adduser the_username_here admin
[12:35] <bjv> !/dev/ttyS1
[12:35] <ubotu> bjv: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:35] <mwe> kriz: I don't think it's problem with your kernels then. probably file system curroption
[12:35] <Seveas> bjv, quit it
[12:35] <kriz> I can read the Linux partition from Windows using ext2 soemthing.
[12:35] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, for the win32 package
[12:35] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, thats fine, its not an issue unless you're adding lots of strange repos
[12:35] <mwe> kriz: run fsck on the partition
[12:35] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay
[12:35] <mwe> kriz: from knoppix
[12:36] <kriz> it says
[12:36] <bjv> Seveas: i was only trying to spam the bot while my searches ran.
[12:36] <kriz> fsck 1.34-WIP (21-May-2003)
[12:36] <bjv> Seveas: im sorry, did it highlight the messages for you too?
[12:36] <Seveas> bjv, you're spamming the channel with it
[12:36] <idefix_> !cupsys
[12:36] <ubotu> No idea, idefix_
[12:36] <mwe> kriz: yes
[12:36] <bjv> Seveas: fair enough
[12:37] <LoPMX> http://www.fuckinginsanet-shirts.com/main7103001.jpg
[12:37] <_jason> !msg the bot
[12:37] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, do you have gnome or KDE?
[12:37] <mwe> kriz: fsck /dev/hd??
[12:37] <humpi> whats ubuntu?
[12:37] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, gnome
[12:37] <kriz> U'm running Knoppx STD, the the shell that I am suing is "aterm"
[12:37] <mwe> kriz: substitute for you actual ubuntu partition
[12:37] <Comrade_Sergei> how do i set the root now
[12:37] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, synaptics installed successful
[12:37] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: Okay I now changed my wg and can't even see my self... brb trying sumthin
[12:37] <mwe> kriz: hello. run fsck /dev/????
[12:37] <grae_> sorry, codeblocks anyone
[12:37] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, not all players, universally, will be able to use the w32 codecs. rhythmbox and I think xmms will be able to.
[12:38] <kriz> it says "fscl.ext2: No such a file or directory
[12:38] <mwe> kriz: and put in the name of your ubuntu partition instead of ????
[12:38] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, i'll try rhythmbox first ... is that all i need?
[12:38] <kriz> ok
[12:39] <kriz> permission denied while trying to open /dev/hda3
[12:39] <johndarkhorse> simply heinous
[12:39] <mwe> kriz: su - first
[12:39] <mwe> kriz: to become root
[12:39] <AlinuxOS> people hello, I'm thinking about gnome-menus .mo file... I've alredy translated it in georgian... but the menu still remains in english...no idea.
[12:39] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, yeah, you should be fine. I think once it didn't work on rhythmbox until reboot, but thats not always the case
[12:39] <Xenguy> ubotu: cups is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[12:39] <ubotu> Xenguy: okay
[12:39] <Xenguy> ubotu: cupsys is The Common UNIX Printing System (or CUPS) is a printing system and general replacement for lpd and the like.  See also http://linuxprinting.org/
[12:39] <ubotu> okay, Xenguy
[12:39] <kriz> mwe, how do I copy and Paste i Knppix STD? it dosn
[12:40] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, i tried running rhythmnbox again and it still says file is not an audiostream.. <-- so i need to reboot?
[12:40] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: ug.  i thought mabye changing the smb4k config to use smbclient instead of nmblookup would help (didn't).  Curious.  i will experiment some more though and see if i can figure out what is up.  I am thinking that the smb part works but the name browsing doesn't.  aren't they separate daemons?
[12:40] <idefix_> !etc
[12:40] <ubotu> idefix_: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:40] <idefix_> !etc.
[12:40] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens!, idefix_
[12:40] <kriz> it dosn't give me the option to right click
[12:40] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, probably, but there are other possible issue
[12:40] <cafuego> !botabuse
[12:40] <ubotu> You can play with me in /msg or #debian-bots without being banned.
[12:40] <mwe> kriz: I think you mark the text you wanna copy then press middle button or left+right to paste
[12:40] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  i think so.. but cant rember.
[12:40] <kriz> oKtosiTe, let me try
[12:40] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, do you have the universe repos?
[12:41] <kriz> fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hda3
[12:41] <kriz> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[12:41] <johndarkhorse> see y'all later
[12:41] <kriz> ah
[12:41] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, that's the only repo i added the one you gave me
[12:41] <kriz> it worked :D
[12:41] <lilalinux> how do i get kubuntu-desktop 3.5?
[12:41] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: that is cool.  i appreciate you pointing me to smb4k... it seems like a nice interface so either way i may use that once i'm connecting
[12:41] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, ok, go back into your sources list and uncomment the lines for the other repos
[12:41] <mwe> kriz: well it gave you an error :)
[12:41] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay
[12:42] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  yea.. i recall somthing about 'suid' ing a file for it to work right under ubuntu.
[12:42] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, just the /unstable one right?
[12:42] <mwe> kriz: your filesystem is damaged
[12:42] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, done
[12:42] <kriz> man!
[12:42] <kriz> then...
[12:42] <kriz> Do I have to re-format it ?
[12:42] <mwe> kriz: maybe it's fixable
[12:43] <kriz> yeah, I have hopes
[12:43] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, I have all of them uncommented, but it might not be necessary
[12:43] <kriz> Cuz I can accces my files from WIndows OS [I'm dual booting] 
[12:43] <mwe> kriz: it's ext3 ?
[12:43] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: smb4k config dialog has a setting for the suid program (sudo).  i can try running smb4k as root...
[12:43] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, you know the drill, sudo apt-get update or the reload button in synaptic
[12:43] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay
[12:43] <kriz> Well, I rememebr that it was ext3, but somehow since someday it tells me that it is ext2
[12:44] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, fetched.. successful
[12:44] <vitas> hi all, I'm a newbie to linux and have just installed Ubuntu on a separate drive to my win2k system.  I have a problem with keyboard detection.  When I was installing, Ubuntu would not recognise my USB keyboard, but worked OK with a PS2 keyboard.  Now that it is running, it recognises my USB keyboard during sessions, but still won't recognise it during the grub loader sequence.  help!
[12:44] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  heh  - i think i just did the suid thign and suid'ed the 2 programns it wanted suid.
[12:44] <mwe> kriz: hmm
[12:44] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: HEY!!! =D  Running it as root lets me browse!!!  Now I got to figure out how to tell it user id for auth on my roomies' boxes.
[12:44] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, ok, now, search for gstreamer mp3
[12:44] <kriz> ..mm...
[12:44] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, ok, just a sec
[12:44] <kriz> I think I have to change the menu.lst
[12:45] <Dr_Willis> vitas,  ive noticed that with some box's /bios/pc's grub does not like usb keyboards. could try different usb ports on the pc. (that worked on 1 box for me) or check the bios settings for usb related thign s anbd try changeing them
[12:45] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, quite a few gstreamer results
[12:45] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: How do I do a "suid thing" to them?  I don't really know what that means.  I know how to start stuff with sudo or gksudo but i gather that is not the same thing?!?
[12:45] <mwe> kriz: it wont help
[12:46] <cartesian1984> cr1mson,  install gstreamer-misc, and gstreamer-musepack
[12:46] <mwe> kriz: e2fsck reports errors
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,   setting the suid bit on a program makes it run as root. which is a potential security risk
[12:46] <vitas> OK, thanks Dr Willis!  I'll try that.
[12:46] <kriz> mm..
[12:46] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, gstreamer0.8-misc, gstreamer0.8-musepack and serpentine is installed
[12:46] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, RB uses the gstreamer engine, so its reliant upon those packages
[12:46] <mwe> kriz: you need to fix the filesystem somehow or reformat
[12:46] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, they are installed already
[12:46] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, hmm....
[12:46] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  google for 'smb4k suid' and it will proberly find a few hits. theres like 2 binaries that smb4k wants suid'ed
[12:46] <kriz> oKtosiTe, so that means
[12:46] <TokenBad> did something change with one of these updates?
[12:46] <TokenBad> or did some sites go down?
[12:46] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, try installing gstreamer-mad
[12:47] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: Ok, I see.  So if suid bit is on, then when I run it under my user account it will instead use the root id?  i take it that this works because I am in the sudoers file then???  I can of course go rtfm ;)
[12:47] <kriz> that, the partition is damaged and that I can fix it by formating it [thus eliminated every file] 
[12:47] <kriz> and re-installing ubuntu.
[12:47] <kriz> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7431
[12:47] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, totem-gstreamer is installed also
[12:47] <Dr_Willis> mojo_,  yep. :P its a 1 min fix to get it working riught as user.  i just dont rember what i had to do.
[12:47] <mwe> kriz: formatting the partition should fix it. ask in the channel for help on repairing your existing file system though
[12:47] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, i dont have gstreamer-mad though
[12:48] <mwe> kriz: so you wont lose everything
[12:48] <kriz> oKtosiTe, then I must backup my files.. I suppose it won't damage by copying my files that are in hda3 {ext2]  to NTFS
[12:48] <Comrade_Sergei> how do i change the root password?
[12:48] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, are you sure you have universe? make sure all the deb and deb-src lines are uncommented
[12:48] <giro> help please, i need #gnome-hispano, but im new in irc.
[12:48] <mwe> kriz: e2fsck should fix it if it can. but maybe there are other options I don't know about
[12:48] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: Hey man thanks a bazillion!  I can figure out the suid stuff i am sure.  I can do that for now (knowing the risk), and do more research to track down what and why to get a proper fix in place later.
[12:49] <Xenguy> !tell Comrade_Sergei about root
[12:49] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, i didnt do that *uncomments*
[12:49] <kriz> formating without losing anything or everything? is that possible !!???
[12:49] <Comrade_Sergei> thanks
[12:49] <mwe> kriz: no
[12:49] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, the universe weren't uncommented
[12:49] <mwe> kriz: but maybe you can repair the file system
[12:49] <kriz> haha. ok. You almost made me jump :D
[12:50] <kriz> Any ideas how?
[12:50] <mwe> kriz: I only know e2fsck but maybe there are options I don't know about
[12:50] <santagada> kriz, what type of file system?
[12:50] <whatwhat> good night
[12:50] <kriz> this is what I get when booting ANY kernels: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7430
[12:50] <kriz> ext2
[12:50] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, ok, gstreamer-mad should be in there now
[12:50] <mojo_> Dr_Willis: thanks so much!  i gotta split.  PEACE!!! :)
[12:50] <santagada> kriz, I saw a blog post talking about a software named kernel
[12:50] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, yes its there
[12:50] <Seb> sup yall
[12:51] <kriz> ??
[12:51] <Seb> when installing ubuntu, will I be offered to create a new partition ? For no wi have only one big windows partition
[12:51] <kriz> and what does it say?
[12:51] <mcdenyer> hmm im running an ati driver app and its askingme if u use ubuntu5.10 or ubntu breezy should i check the both?
[12:51] <mwe> kriz: it confirms what fsck did. the partition/file system is damaged
[12:51] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, I think thats the definitive package for getting mp3s to work
[12:51] <bloodnik> herro. I need help getting an easy firefox 1.5 but ubuntuforums.com isn't working for me.
[12:51] <santagada> kriz, yes that is really the name of the software... but it is expensive
[12:51] <mephis> hello
[12:51] <kriz> hah?
[12:51] <mephis> i have some music files on windows
[12:52] <mephis> can i plau them on linux
[12:52] <Seb> i need to keep my windows data safe, but I'm OK to create a new partition at the end of my disk, I'm just concerned that the ubuntu partitioner-whatever won't defragment first or something
[12:52] <mcdenyer> _jason hey can u help me with something
[12:52] <Seb> mephis: sure
[12:52] <santagada> kriz, wait a minute... i will post the link
[12:52] <kriz> sociopath, you are nto talking about the Linux Kernel.
[12:52] <giro>  help please, i need #gnome-hispano, but im new in irc, i have x-chat,...,how i change channel?
[12:52] <mephis> can  linux read ntfs partition ?
[12:52] <_jason> mcdenyer: just ask
[12:52] <Seb> giro: /join #thechannel
[12:52] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, mad is installed
[12:52] <bloodnik> !firefox 1.5
[12:52] <ubotu> bloodnik: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[12:52] <bloodnik> :/
[12:52] <kriz> well, ok. The partition is damaged.
[12:52] <Xenguy> !firefox1.5
[12:52] <mcdenyer> _jason im running an ati driver install and its asking me what linux i have and there ubuntu 5.10 and ubuntu breezy
[12:52] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:52] <mcdenyer> _jason, should i check them both or what?
[12:52] <bloodnik> oh no space
[12:52] <bloodnik> cheers
[12:52] <kriz> Can I re-formated using the Ubuntu Install CD ?
[12:52] <_jason> mcdenyer: are you following the wiki instructions?
[12:52] <mephis> can linux read ntfs partition ?
[12:53] <mcdenyer> _jason, cuase i thought they were the same thing
[12:53] <sampan> mephis, yes.
[12:53] <midwinter> mephis, yes
[12:53] <mwe> kriz: yes
[12:53] <mcdenyer> _jason yes it says select your linux version
[12:53] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[12:53] <mephis> i have some music files on D: which is ntfs
[12:53] <ubotu> methinks ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[12:53] <kriz> mephis: Yes, Linux can READ NTFS partition
[12:53] <mcdenyer> _jason i can check them both if i need to
[12:53] <mephis> can i play them?
[12:53] <mwe> kriz: you don't wanna try to save your existing file system?
[12:53] <_jason> mcdenyer: I would just select both, but I don't have an ati
[12:53] <giro> a mephis,... yes.
[12:53] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, ok, it should work now, if not, do a 'killall -9 rhythmbox'
[12:53] <mephis> please show me how ?
[12:53] <mcdenyer> _jason ok
[12:53] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, that made more updates avaliable including totem and gstreamer
[12:54] <kriz> yes, I think I got an idea. I will use some Windows app that can read the ext2 partition
[12:54] <santagada> http://www.nucleustechnologies.com/
[12:54] <mephis> can anyone show me how ?
[12:54] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, okay, i'll try
[12:54] <Seb> okkkaaaay, let me try to rephrase maybe... Will the ubuntu installer be able to shrink my existing windows partition ?
[12:54] <santagada> kriz, here it is http://www.nucleustechnologies.com/
[12:54] <honey|me> i try to Apply Quota Patch To Postfix  , but i get a problem because when i run "  apt-get source postfix " i get  postfix_2.2.4  version and from " http://web.onda.com.br/nadal/postfix/VDA" i can onli get " postfix-2.1.5-trash.patch.gz " any ideea ?
[12:54] <mwe> kriz: go ahead. I doubt it will work when fsck says there are errors though
[12:54] <synd> Do I have to forward port 22 to my ubuntu box to enable SSH?
[12:54] <bjv> question,
[12:54] <bjv> echo 'test' | /dev/ttyS1   got me   /dev/ttyS1: Permission Denied
[12:54] <bjv> im root
[12:54] <Seb> bjv: > not |
[12:54] <synd> Because I don't have to forward a port to my iBook for SSH to work.
[12:54] <santagada> kriz, they have a free download that scans your disk and tell you if the paid version will fix your drive
[12:54] <midwinter> Seb, yes
[12:55] <kriz> but, it worked for me
[12:55] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, thank you! :) it worked
[12:55] <Comrade_Sergei> ok sudo passwd root didnt work Xenguy
[12:55] <Seb> midwinter: NTFS or FAT, doesn't matter ?
[12:55] <kriz> I still got hopes
[12:55] <synd> I can SSH from my ubuntu box to my ibook, but not vice versa.
[12:55] <Seb> !doesn't work
[12:55] <ubotu> rumour has it, doesn't work is something you should never say.  Be more specific.
[12:55] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, mp3s recongize and play
[12:55] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, all right
[12:55] <mephis> how can i play music files on a ntfs partition pls ?
[12:55] <Xenguy> Comrade_Sergei: it's all on the URL; work it out :-)
[12:55] <mephis> pls help
[12:55] <Seb> mephis: mount this partition, navigate to the music files in it, play them
[12:55] <_jason> mephis: can you see the filesd?
[12:55] <kriz> ten minutes ago, I was copying my Music that are located in my ~/
[12:55] <mwe> bjv: why don't you use write?
[12:55] <mephis> uhm
[12:55] <mephis> where ?
[12:55] <Comrade_Sergei> Xenguy it did once but then i messed up xed out and now it doesnt work anymore
[12:55] <santagada> kriz, you can search the pythonplanet for the post about kernel and see what others softwares the guy used
[12:55] <_jason> ubotu: tell mephis about ntfs
[12:56] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, took me a while to figure that one out
[12:56] <mwe> kriz: ok
[12:56] <honey|me> thanks all
[12:56] <kriz> ;)
[12:56] <midwinter> Seb, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WindowsDualBootHowTo
[12:56] <kriz> thanks santagada and mwe
[12:56] <mcdenyer> _jason how do i save my x window file?
[12:57] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, i dont remember all was done but thats okay
[12:57] <santagada> kriz, you are welcome :)
[12:57] <_jason> mcdenyer: which x window file? xorg.conf?
[12:57] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, yup
[12:57] <kriz> :D
[12:57] <mcdenyer> _jason, it syas save your x windows configuration file
[12:57] <Seb> midwinter: thanks a lot
[12:57] <cartesian1984> cr1mson, I wonder why they aren't supported by default though, if its a universe package
[12:57] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, i knew something happened as soon as i saw a music clef in my upper panel
[12:57] <mcdenyer> *yay
[12:57] <Comrade_Sergei> so how do i change my root password
[12:57] <honey|me> any ideea how do i Apply Quota Patch To Postfix ?
[12:58] <_jason> mcdenyer: let me see the wiki, one sec
[12:58] <eepberries> hay. can anyone tell me how to burn the .iso onto a CD using the windows XP built in drag and drop cd burning method?
[12:58] <mephis> _jason,  is ubotu a bot ?
[12:58] <eepberries> do i just extract all the files in the .iso to the cd drive?
[12:58] <cafuego> !bot
[12:58] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[12:58] <mcdenyer> _jason, wiki doesnt say it
[12:58] <_jason> ubotu: tell mephis about yourself
[12:58] <midwinter> Seb, np - pretty easy to do.
[12:58] <mwe> kriz: are you able to even mount the partition in knoppix?
[12:58] <cr1mson> cartesian1984, i know, that is strange
[12:58] <mcdenyer> _jason the program that wiki helped me run says it at the end of the installatioin
[12:58] <VR^> are the forums down?
[12:58] <Seb> midwinter: cool. I didn't know partman could resize ntfs...
[12:59] <kriz> Haven't tried it
[12:59] <mcdenyer> what you can safelty resize and ntfs?
[12:59] <mcdenyer> an*
[12:59] <mephis> _jason,  oh ,so kool , can i ask him to tell me sth ?
[12:59] <adam_> lol
[12:59] <kriz> I tried using Knppix STD, and it dosn't seem to work
[12:59] <_jason> ubotu: tell mephis about msg the bot
[12:59] <mcdenyer> _jason the program that wiki helped me run says it at the end of the installatioin
[12:59] <mjr> "safe" is always a relative term when talking about resizing filesystems
[12:59] <kriz> but in Knppix itself... I don't know.
[12:59] <_jason> mcdenyer: which step are you on, 3?
[12:59] <mjr> (well, perhaps not that much if the filesystem is designed to handle it nicely)
[12:59] <Comrade_Sergei> how do i assign a root password
[01:00] <_jason> ubotu: tell Comrade_Sergei about root
[01:00] <Skwid> anyone ever seen this error before (at boot) "input: at translated set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"'
[01:00] <Comrade_Sergei> no just give me the command
[01:00] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: no, just read it
[01:00] <Manifold> Man.
[01:00] <carlos> canal espaol
[01:00] <Xenguy> _jason: he's been told about root already :-)
[01:00] <_jason> !es
[01:00] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[01:00] <cafuego> !es
[01:00] <Manifold> Linux printing is so frustraing.
[01:00] <Manifold> frustrating
[01:00] <synd> It ain't for me
[01:00] <Seb> midwinter: cups is good, use it
[01:00] <Seb> hrm
[01:00] <Xenguy> Manifold: only when it doesn't work ;-)
[01:00] <_jason> Xenguy: that page explains how to do it if he wants
[01:00] <Seb> Manifold: cups is good, use it
[01:00] <synd> Cups is where it's at
[01:00] <Manifold> Yeah, like now.
[01:00] <Manifold> I am.
[01:01] <Xenguy> _jason: exactly
[01:01] <Seb> synd: really ?
[01:01] <Manifold> My printer is supported at all.
[01:01] <_jason> Xenguy: ah
[01:01] <Manifold> Well, it is.
[01:01] <synd> Seb: Yep.
[01:01] <Manifold> But only using an out of date driver
[01:01] <Comrade_Sergei> _jason i alreay did it didnt help much ( as usual)
[01:01] <Seb> synd: unbelievable
[01:01] <kriz> knoppix@ttyp0[knoppix] $ sudo mkdir -p /mnt/hda3 && sudo mount /dev/hda3 /mnt/hda3
[01:01] <kriz> Mountainman: error while guessing filesystem type
[01:01] <kriz> Mountainman: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:01] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: you obviously did not since the page addresses your exact question
[01:01] <synd> Seb: Amazing, isn't it?
[01:01] <Seb> synd: truly brilliant
[01:02] <Comrade_Sergei> i dont htink so
[01:02] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: hint: use the table of contents
[01:02] <Seb> kriz: what part of this pristine error message don't you understand ?
[01:02] <zenmaster> mount /dev/hda3 -t NTFS(EXT2,3 etc..) /mount/me/here
[01:03] <Manifold> Argh.
[01:03] <tech9iner> so mates.. why isnt my fresh kubuntu install disc 'server' install see 'sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop' please?.. do i have to enable the universe/multiverse repos to see it perhaps please?
[01:03] <kriz> NoUse, it;s alright. The only solution is to format.
[01:03] <tech9iner> arg install see*ing
[01:03] <Xenguy> tech9iner: likely
[01:03] <kriz> Well, thank you again. I will boot to WIndows and try to get backup of my files in ext2
[01:03] <kriz> c' ya
[01:03] <tech9iner> thanks muchly Xenguy
[01:03] <Xenguy> tech9iner: good luck
[01:03] <tech9iner> ;] 
[01:04] <TokenBad> I have a question for xchat...I join a channel and get disconnected from the irc server like right off..any idea why?
[01:04] <walla> that is weird
[01:04] <giro> mephis: set in shell, mount /dev/hdxn /mnt/??? -t ntfs -o ro,users
[01:04] <diux> Hello. I have a question. Anyone around that could answer something rather simple for me?
[01:05] <cartesian1984> diux, certainly
[01:05] <Comrade_Sergei> get the pm _jason
[01:05] <tech9iner> hmmmm... wait now.. 1st 4 this..
[01:05] <tech9iner> still not fiinding xubuntu?
[01:05] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: nope, you have to be registered
[01:05] <diux> I'm considering installing wine, but i'm worried that it might break my kernal. I've heard nasty things about windows emulations. Anychance of it breaking my os?
[01:05] <mcdenyer> _jason im down at the part under using the dirvers
[01:05] <Skwid> anyone ever seen this error before (at boot) "input: at translated set 2 keyboard on isa0060/serio0"'
[01:05] <Xenguy> tech9iner: apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[01:05] <mcdenyer> and im at 7
[01:06] <Comrade_Sergei> k hold on ill indentift
[01:06] <synd> Is there something in Ubuntu that I have to enable for SSH to work?
[01:06] <Manifold> Linux can be as frustrating as Windows sometimes.
[01:06] <mwe> diux: it wont break. it's not even really an emulator
[01:06] <Comrade_Sergei> k
[01:06] <seele96> how can i make "x" aplication the default application for "x" extension? for example make VLC the default movie player
[01:06] <Xenguy> Skwid: I get those too; they don't seem to really matter in practice
[01:06] <_jason> seele96: right click-> properties-> open with
[01:06] <mwe> diux: it's an implementation of the win32 api
[01:06] <tonyyarusso> synd, ssh is installed by default.
[01:07] <Skwid> Xenguy: yeah, except when the installer doesnt boot because it stops at this message :)
[01:07] <Xenguy> Skwid: ewww
[01:07] <ryanpg> so there's a deb in debian unstable I want to try to install on dapper... how would I go about getting it?
[01:07] <diux> I also ask becouse i'm running under a 64bit AMD. And the process to get wine working under it is, kinda iffy at best.
[01:07] <seele96> thanks _jason!!
[01:07] <synd> tonyyarusso: I can't SSH into my Ubuntu box from my iBook. But I can ssh from my Ubuntu box into my iBook.
[01:07] <_jason> mcdenyer: I think you are better off asking someone with an ati
[01:07] <cartesian1984> diux, Wine is just a compatibility layer, it shouldn't do anything bad
[01:07] <tech9iner> aye Xenguy .. ditto that here and worked on same lappy 1st time i ran it.. just reinstalled testing lockups .. chose this time round to just server install via kubuntu 5.10 disc.. and then strait to xubuntu install to save space and test bugs.. could the repos server be down perhaps please?
[01:07] <mcdenyer> _jason it just want me to save the x config
[01:07] <Comrade_Sergei> please go to your pm _jason
[01:07] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: I don't have one...
[01:08] <Xenguy> tech9iner: dunno about the KDE version
[01:08] <mwe> diux: it wont break anything. at worst it wont work
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> synd, You'll have to check whether the server is running.
[01:08] <mcdenyer> _jason, just says save your x windows configuration file
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> All:  What's the process name for the ssh server?
[01:08] <_jason> mcdenyer: /etc/X11/xorg.conf is usually what it modifies but I don't see what they want you to save
[01:08] <Toran> Hey guys, does anyone have some recommendations for a program that can display graphs and other such things to show me the different places my disk space is going?
[01:08] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: sshd
[01:08] <diux> mwe: Thanks mate. I'll give it a try, I'm not really going for emulating anything to hardcore, i.e games, etc. Thanks.
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> synd, ^^
[01:08] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Thanks.
[01:08] <Comrade_Sergei> yea u do
[01:08] <eepberries> i can't believe they made a Big Momma's House 2
[01:08] <synd> tonyyarusso: Gracias.
[01:08] <Xenguy> Toran: filelight is one option
[01:09] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: yw
[01:09] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: ok, sure I do....
[01:09] <Toran> Xenguy: thanks, I'll check that out
[01:09] <Comrade_Sergei> ok go to /join #_jason
[01:09] <Xenguy> Toran: aye
[01:09] <Toran> is that in the apt repos?
[01:09] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: whatever you have to tell/ask me please just do it here
[01:09] <Xenguy> Toran: yep, somewhere
[01:09] <Toran> oooh, it is.
[01:09] <Toran> Great.
[01:10] <Toran> I'm so used to stuff not being in there >_<
[01:10] <Comrade_Sergei> i pasted
[01:10] <Xenguy> Toran: everything is in debian and ubuntu :-)
[01:10] <mcdenyer> _jason, well whast the command for save
[01:10] <eugman> So is the dvd able to run live and install?
[01:10] <Toran> Xenguy: Heh, yeah, but it's like 5 versions behind :(
[01:10] <_jason> mcdenyer: that's the thing... you would have to be editing something for you to save it
[01:10] <mcdenyer> anyone in here have an ati card which has the driver installed on it?
[01:10] <cartesian1984> anyone here using dapper?
[01:10] <tech9iner> g r r r e a t !.. twould seem this damned lappy'z locked up again just now.. starting to suspect hdd or hw failures now.. methinks pure ubuntu server installation only shouldnt be locking up Pll 366/128ram toughbook.. ;[[[
[01:10] <Xenguy> Toran: no:  debian/sid, or regular ubu
[01:10] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg, You still trying to get that deb?  I can probably help you.
[01:10] <_jason> ubotu: tell Comrade_Sergei about pastebin
[01:10] <mwe> Toran: I see. most things I've needed has been in univers/multiverse if not in main
[01:10] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Radeon 9200, works fine.
[01:11] <Toran> Xenguy: Ubuntu
[01:11] <Comrade_Sergei> god stop it ok screw u
[01:11] <Toran> I need some pretty unusual stuff though ;-)
[01:11] <Xenguy> Xenguy: no major lag there then
[01:11] <mcdenyer> _jason you want me to send u a screenie ?
[01:11] <cafuego> Comrade_Sergei: Please mind your language.
[01:11] <Comrade_Sergei> will someone else telll me how to change the root password
[01:11] <Toran> filelight (0.99beta6-0ubuntu3)
[01:11] <Toran> filelight-1.0-beta6.tar.bz2
[01:11] <mcdenyer> cafuego, have u installed the ati driver for it?
[01:11] <cafuego> Comrade_Sergei: 'sudo passwd'
[01:11] <eugman> !dvd
[01:11] <ubotu> Dvd plyaing is possible in Ubuntu with totem, vlc mplayer and other players. You may need !libdvdcss.
[01:11] <eugman> !Installdvd
[01:11] <ubotu> eugman: I don't know, could you explain it?
[01:11] <cafuego> mcdenyer: No, it works with the open 'radeon' driver.
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> !tell Comrade_Sergei about root
[01:11] <eugman> !dvdversion
[01:11] <ubotu> eugman: What?
[01:11] <eugman> !pie
[01:11] <ubotu> eugman: Syntax error in line 1
[01:11] <mcdenyer> cafuego, what do you meen
[01:12] <mcdenyer> cafuego, so u havnt installed an dirvers for it
[01:12] <Comrade_Sergei> cafuego the just looks like it did nothing it didnt prompt me for a password
[01:12] <cafuego> mcdenyer: It works with the driver that comes with Xorg.
[01:12] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, did we talk about this before?
[01:12] <cafuego> Comrade_Sergei: Bad. How about 'sudo -i' then 'passwd'.
[01:12] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg, No, from above a ways.
[01:12] <mcdenyer> cafuego, ok well there ati camer out wityh a pretty easy driver installer
[01:12] <mcdenyer> anyone in here install the ati driver?
[01:12] <Comrade_Sergei> cafuego same
[01:12] <cafuego> mcdenyer: As long as you don't have a mac, sure.
[01:13] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, ahh... ok yeah it's an app called supercollider
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I did, but I'm still at 90 FPS.
[01:13] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, the breezy/ubuntu version is way old
[01:13] <mephis> who
[01:13] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Still, xglrx is packaged for and in Ubuntu.
[01:13] <zxz> hello ppl, please send me a private message with the content of the  /etc/init.d/networking file, i had erased it by mistake
[01:13] <mwe> mcdenyer: yeah. just use the one in the repos
[01:13] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, hey man
[01:13] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ive been looking for you haha
[01:13] <mjr> ,2,0
[01:13] <cafuego> zxz: Just reinstall it.
[01:13] <mjr> oops
[01:13] <cafuego> !find /etc/init.d/networking
[01:13] <zxz> reinstall what ?
[01:13] <mcdenyer> mwe i got it off ati.com like the wiki says
[01:14] <eepberries> oh god download a 650mb file at 35kb/s :(
[01:14] <eepberries> *downloading
[01:14] <zxz> cafuego, how can i reinstall that file ?
[01:14] <cafuego> mcdenyer: xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg, You have two options, either add the dapper repos and see if that ones newer, or download the one from sid and install that (not guaranteed to work, but probably okay).
[01:14] <eugman> eeepberries you can order cds too you know...
[01:14] <twan> whats the right way to extract .tar.gz files into a folder
[01:14] <cafuego> zxz: Just a moment
[01:14] <mwe> mcdenyer: what wiki?
[01:14] <mcdenyer> cafuego, naw i got it off ati
[01:14] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, So what's your issue with it?
[01:14] <mwe> mcdenyer: the wiki I read says to get it with apt-get
[01:14] <mcdenyer> cafuego, i gor the fglrx off ati.com
[01:14] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Yeah, not normally a good idea.
[01:15] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, option two is what I want, but where are the debian unstable debs?
[01:15] <mcdenyer> !ati
[01:15] <walla> eugman: those take longer....
[01:15] <ubotu> it has been said that ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:15] <ubotu> Ubuntu Package/File/Desc Search of '/etc/init.d/networking' returned no results.
[01:15] <eepberries> eugman: what, and wait like 2 weeks?
[01:15] <mwe> mcdenyer: it took about 2 minutes to install it
[01:15] <twan> ? What's the right way to extract tarballs
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> twan, tar zxvf thetarsfilename.tar.gz, which will create the folder.
[01:15] <cartesian1984> mcdenyer, I installed the ATI driver, but I still don't have 3D accel
[01:15] <midwinter> eepberries, I downloaded breezy at 5kb/s, and the cd's take 4 weeks ;)
[01:15] <mcdenyer> mwe, not that one it says donwload the apropriate drivers from ati
[01:15] <eugman> well with your current method it might take just as long. heh
[01:15] <Comrade_Sergei> cafuego how do i do it now
[01:15] <walla> eepberries: they take longer than 2 weeks
[01:15] <twan> thanks
[01:16] <desmo> I've just installed 5.1 and cannot get my lan connection to work (router uses dhcp) i have an onboard vitesse 8201 phy 10/100/1000 installed (nforce4 chipset)
[01:16] <cafuego> Comrade_Sergei: No idea. Find out why it won't accept it. Check passwd file.
[01:16] <eugman> Anyone here not able to get to the forums?
[01:16] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg, Usually at somewhat strange URLs, designed to work with apt, but I'll see if I can find it for you.
[01:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: um it says to use apt-get in the first part
[01:16] <cafuego> zxz: sudo apt-get install --reinstall netbase
[01:16] <Comrade_Sergei> uh im a noob dont no how
[01:16] <mcdenyer> mwe i dont think u looked far enough down
[01:16] <walla> eugman: I can't
[01:16] <cartesian1984> eugman, I haven't been able to
[01:16] <zxz> cafuego, thak you very much
[01:16] <mcdenyer> mwe u do use apt-get to get some packages
[01:16] <midwinter> eugman: down again..
[01:16] <mwe> mcdenyer: appearantly you skipped that and jumped to the second option
[01:16] <cafuego> zxz: If that doesn't put the file back, 'sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/netbase<tab>'
[01:16] <mcdenyer> mwe mmm no
[01:17] <mcdenyer> mwe why whould i do that?
[01:17] <walla> does anyone know when the forums will be back up?
[01:17] <cafuego> zxz: The --force-confmiss will force it to check for missing files and restore them.
[01:17] <zxz> ok
[01:17] <mcdenyer> mwe i did that then went to the next part
[01:17] <mwe> mcdenyer: you don't do both
[01:17] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: does your sudo work?
[01:17] <mwe> mcdenyer: you have two options
[01:17] <Comrade_Sergei> i guess
[01:17] <Comrade_Sergei> i want to try cedega
[01:17] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: 'sudo echo hi' says hi?
[01:17] <mwe> mcdenyer: use the pacages it suggests or dl from ati and compile
[01:17] <Comrade_Sergei> no
[01:18] <cafuego> Comrade_Sergei: You don't need a root password to try cedega.
[01:18] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: there is your problem
[01:18] <idefix_> have you guys ever used the lsmod command?
[01:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: xorg-driver-fglrx _is_ the driver
[01:18] <desmo> I've just installed 5.1 and cannot get my lan connection to work (router uses dhcp) static ips fail too .. any ideas ?
[01:18] <Comrade_Sergei> k what do i do then
[01:18] <idefix_> !lsmod
[01:18] <ubotu> idefix_: My cat's name is Mittens!
[01:18] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: paste the output of 'groups'
[01:18] <Comrade_Sergei> groups?
[01:18] <mwe> mcdenyer: the same one you would compile below if you choose to do that
[01:18] <idefix_> Comrade_Sergei is quicker that ubotu
[01:18] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: the command 'groups'
[01:18] <Comrade_Sergei> tellme a
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> ryanpg, You can search for them at http://www.debian.org/distrib/packages#search_packages, but it's not working at the moment.  Bookmark that page and check back later.
[01:19] <mcdenyer> mwe well i guess i did both lol
[01:19] <Comrade_Sergei> !tell me about pastebin
[01:19] <mwe> mcdenyer: don't do that
[01:19] <ryanpg> tonyyarusso, ty
[01:19] <mcdenyer> mwe i thought it was the next step
[01:19] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Usiong the ati.com file means you plonk stuff all over the system that the package system doesn't know about. It may create problems in the future.
[01:19] <cartesian1984> Comrade_Sergei, cedega is good as long as you have a nVidia card. Otherwise, it can be a pain
[01:19] <dibblego> dselect tells me that 2.6.12 is the latest kernel, but I need a later one - do I need to add a repository or something?
[01:19] <tonyyarusso> Anyone know why I would only be getting 90 FPS with the ati driver (I've tried both the repos one and from their site), with Radeon X300?
[01:19] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Especially with ATI stuff, they have quality control issues <heh>
[01:20] <mcdenyer> cafuego, great...
[01:20] <idefix_> !kernel
[01:20] <cafuego> dibblego: Why do you need a later one?
[01:20] <idefix_> !kernel module
[01:20] <ubotu> idefix_: Huh?
[01:20] <eugman> anyone here have any experience with the dvd version?
[01:20] <desmo> anyone else having dhcp problems with 5.1 ?
[01:20] <walla> tonyyarusso: 90 fps in what?
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> dibblego, That is the latest for Breezy.  Dapper will have 2.6.15.
[01:20] <dibblego> cafuego, the rt2x00 driver requires it - which is my ultimate objective
[01:20] <cafuego> idefix_: Can you please stop spamming the bot on the channel? Use private messages.
[01:20] <tonyyarusso> walla, As reported by xscreensaver.
[01:20] <cartesian1984> tonyyarusso, I have never been able to get it working properly
[01:20] <ves> Could somebody tell me how to go about enabling/sorting xvideo support for my ATI Radeon 9800 Pro? I've updated my kernel recently to k7 from 386 and some things seem to be broken, more specifically mplayer when trying to play anything. I'm getting the error: "It seems there is no Xvideo support for your video card available."
[01:20] <walla> oh
[01:20] <walla> thats low
[01:21] <Comrade_Sergei> cartesian1984 its integrated
[01:21] <cafuego> dibblego: *nod* I believe the 2400 and 2500 are in the Ubuntu 2.56.15 kernel.
[01:21] <Comrade_Sergei> see my pastebin
[01:21] <mwe> cafuego: even though the ati installer creates a .deb?
[01:21] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: url please?
[01:21] <cafuego> dibblego: That kernel comes with dapper, but you *can* install it (along with a few tools) on breezy.
[01:21] <dibblego> cafuego, where do I get the Ubuntu 2.6.15 kernel?
[01:21] <Comrade_Sergei> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7462
[01:21] <twan> what is the standard C compiler that comes with ubuntu, and where is it located?
[01:21] <dibblego> ok, I'm a noob, I'll have to figure out what you're saying, thanks
[01:21] <cafuego> mwe: ATI still have quality control issues, so it wouldn't surprise me ;-)
[01:21] <walla> tonyyarusso: try doing glxgears -printfps
[01:21] <cartesian1984> Comrade_Sergei, really? I was never able to get direct rendering working, which driver?
[01:21] <mcdenyer> cafuego, so what do i do now?
[01:21] <mcdenyer> cafuego, reformat to get rid of the bad package or what
[01:22] <Comrade_Sergei> cartesian1984 what
[01:22] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: is this the account you created during install?
[01:22] <mwe> mcdenyer: don't reformat. that's silly
[01:22] <cafuego> mcdenyer: Just use it as-is and deal with it IF a problem occurs in the future.
[01:22] <mcdenyer> mwe im a silly guy :)_
[01:22] <twan> what is the standard C compiler that comes with ubuntu, and where is it located?
[01:22] <mwe> mcdenyer: just uninstall the pacage the ati installer created
[01:22] <mwe> mcdenyer: rofl
[01:22] <desmo> anyone else having dhcp problems with breezy .. i've tried editing dhclient and resolv.conf and used a static ip and am getting nowhere
[01:22] <Comrade_Sergei> _jason no
[01:22] <Xyc0> anyone know of a program that will let me manage copy write protections on PDFs for ubuntu?
[01:22] <tonyyarusso> walla, Interesting.  That says its way higher.
[01:22] <mcdenyer> mwe well i did both ways
[01:22] <midwinter> mcdenyer, if it's working.. don't worry (I compiled mine and i'm not) :)
[01:22] <dibblego> is dapper the next Ubuntu release?
[01:22] <walla> tonyyarusso: what does it say?
[01:23] <midwinter> dibblego, yes
[01:23] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: do you still have that account?  he will have sudo privileges because he will belong to the 'admin' group.  Your current account does not
[01:23] <dibblego> ok cheers
[01:23] <twan> ubotu: install build-essentials
[01:23] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, twan
[01:23] <zxz> please, i need /etc/init.d/networking file, can anyone send it to me ? i haderased it by mistake :(
[01:23] <mwe> mcdenyer: but step two just installs another package. get rid of that one and redo the first option and you'll be good
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> walla, While the gears window is up, 1680.  When minimized and just working with XChat, 6900.
[01:23] <Comrade_Sergei> _jason so go to the admin account
[01:23] <cafuego> dibblego: It's fairly straighforward. You need to add a dapper repository line in /etc/apt/sources.list, then install linux-image-2.6.15-13-whateveryourcputypeis and the associated restricted modules. Then remove the dapper line and voila.
[01:24] <walla> tonyyarusso: I dont see anything wrong with that
[01:24] <Comrade_Sergei> and do sudo passwd there?
[01:24] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: yes, go to your first user.  He can use sudo
[01:24] <mcdenyer> mwe hmm ok
[01:24] <zxz> cafuego, that cmd didn't replaced it
[01:24] <mcdenyer> im out later all
[01:24] <Comrade_Sergei> k help me again in a munute then
[01:24] <cafuego> zxz: The fiorst one didn't? Then use the second one.
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> walla, Not at all.  So what might be the issue with the screensavers?
[01:24] <Stormx2> heya
[01:24] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: sure if that's what you really want.  But I think it's not necessary to have root
[01:24] <cafuego> zxz: 'sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/netbase<tab>'
[01:24] <walla> maybe the screensavers are way more graphics intensive?
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> walla, (Which run way slow if I try to preview them while glxgears is up.)
[01:25] <zxz> none of it work
[01:25] <eugman> When does increasing a swaps size start to have diminishing returns? Once it equals the ram?
[01:25] <desmo> well thanks for the lack of help
[01:25] <cafuego> eugman: In normal operation it doesn't.
[01:25] <Comrade_Vladimir> ok this is sergei
[01:25] <cafuego> eugman: Unless you start using too much swap space for applications, as opposed to cache.
[01:26] <zxz> tab what ?
[01:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> srry bout the name this is myt old one
[01:26] <cafuego> eugman: But that would be a function of disk speed.
[01:26] <walla> tonyyarusso: which screensavers are you trying to do?
[01:26] <cafuego> zxz: tab key, so it autocompletes.
[01:26] <twan> XML:Parser perl module is required for intltool is the error I'm getting
[01:26] <Stormx2> o.O
[01:26] <Stormx2> GNOME just died and closed a whole bunch of my apps
[01:26] <eugman> now is swap slower than ram like virtual ram is for windows I think?
[01:26] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason?
[01:26] <cafuego> eugman: Yes
[01:26] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir: ?
[01:26] <eugman> is there much of any difference between the two?
[01:26] <geargolem> I have scoured the net, but I can't find an unbroken link on how to add windows to Breezy
[01:26] <zxz>  sudo dpkg -i --force-confmiss /var/cache/apt/archives/netkit-inetd_0.10-10.1ubuntu2_amd64.deb ?
[01:27] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason this is sergei i forgot to change it
[01:27] <cafuego> eugman: But Linux uses it in a much smarter way than Windows.
[01:27] <cafuego> zxz: yep
[01:27] <eugman> ahh k.
[01:27] <cafuego> zxz: Noo!
[01:27] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir: k
[01:27] <cafuego> zxz: netbase...  not netkit-inetd
[01:27] <Stormx2> There, it did it again!
[01:27] <Stormx2> ;-)
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> walla, They seem to all be unhappy.
[01:27] <Comrade_Vladimir> _jason now whats the command to change my other cccount to an admins
[01:27] <zxz> netkit is the only thing it start with ne
[01:27] <walla> tonyyarusso: hmm...
[01:27] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir: adduser your_other_account admin
[01:28] <cafuego> eugman: When Linux has written data to a file, it keeps that file in ram (cache). If its contents don't change, it ALREADY has the file data when it is next accessed.
[01:28] <walla> tonyyarusso: I'm not sure...but we know that it's not a problem with your graphics card
[01:28] <zenmaster> Hmm, this is my routing table what is wrong? Why are thing not being entirely routed properly.
[01:28] <zenmaster> Kernel IP routing table
[01:28] <zenmaster> Destination     Gateway         Genmask         Flags   MSS Window  irtt Iface
[01:28] <zenmaster> 68.208.254.9    0.0.0.0         255.255.255.255 UH        0 0          0 ppp0
[01:28] <zenmaster> 192.168.1.0     0.0.0.0         255.255.255.0   U         0 0          0 eth0
[01:28] <zenmaster> 0.0.0.0         68.208.254.9    0.0.0.0         UG        0 0          0 ppp0
[01:28] <zenmaster> Sorry for spam.
[01:28] <cafuego> zenmaster: DO NOT PASTE
[01:28] <synd> zenmaster: pastebin.
[01:28] <Comrade_Vladimir> that hast to be a sudo right _jason
[01:28] <cafuego> zenmaster: Not even with an apology. use the pastebin.
[01:28] <walla> tonyyarusso: but it might be a problem with your graphics card and xscreensaver
[01:28] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir: yes
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> walla, If I close glxgears they get a lot better, but the GL ones are still slower.
[01:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> should have said that
[01:29] <zenmaster> Well I've been in here for three days now.
[01:29] <walla> tonyyarusso: Well your graphics card isn't THE best card...
[01:29] <zenmaster> And no one seems to have any clue other then the stupidest reply. "Get a router?".
[01:29] <cafuego> zenmaster: Then you should know better about pasting, eh?
[01:29] <Comrade_Vladimir> the password is what _jason the accounts?
[01:29] <zenmaster> Ag this is the weakest support channel ever.
[01:29] <eugman> Ok now how is swap any better than reading straight from the hd? Less looking?
[01:29] <zxz> please, i need /etc/init.d/networking file, can anyone send it to me.....
[01:29] <_jason> Comrade_Vladimir: yes
[01:30] <walla> tonyyarusso, that might be the problem
[01:30] <zxz> or tell me where can i take it from
[01:30] <Comrade_Vladimir> thanks getting on other account
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> walla, True.  I guess I'll have to live with that.
[01:30] <cafuego> eugman: When ram is needed for apps, the cached data is moved to swap. Due to design, it is STILL faster to read the cached data from swap than back off the disk, if it's needed again.
[01:30] <walla> tonyyarusso, but there may be a problem with the xscreensaver
[01:31] <geargolem> can windows be added to breezy?
[01:31] <Amaranth> err, you can't install windows under breezy
[01:31] <Amaranth> if you want both you should install windows, then ubuntu
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> I'm thinking about making a factoid like !new or !newuser, that basically explains to use the ubotu pm to view other ones, and then mentions a lot of the other factoids needed to get a person started so they don't get in trouble, like !paste and !bannable.  Feedback: Good idea?  What factoids should be included?
[01:32] <Comrade_Sergei> ok now how do i change the root _jason
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> !tell geargolem about dualboot
[01:32] <Amaranth> otherwise windows makes ubuntu unbootable without a live cd
[01:32] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: cafuego told you already
[01:32] <owner> hello
[01:32] <geargolem> Amaranth, what if I have breezy on my first hd?
[01:32] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I've got half a mind to make ubotu ignore non-registered users again.
[01:32] <npfet> is ubuntuforums down?
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> walla, Is there something I should do about it?
[01:32] <owner> can somebody help me please?
[01:32] <eugman> npfet: yes
[01:32] <Amaranth> npfet: yes
[01:32] <npfet> eugman: ok, not just my connection thanks 8)
[01:32] <owner> My screen resoultion is to big
[01:32] <walla> tonyyarusso, I'm assuming you have the drivers installed?
[01:32] <Comrade_Sergei> before so can i have it now
[01:32] <Amaranth> npfet: hardware failure
[01:32] <Dr_Willis> !ask
[01:32] <sampan> owner, no one can help you until you ask a question ;)
[01:32] <mwe> tonyyarusso: it's a good idea
[01:33] <Amaranth> !fixres
[01:33] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:33] <eugman> Can someone here edit thew topic to reflect the lack of forumness?
[01:33] <Amaranth> owner: ^^
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, That sounds like it might do more harm than good...has it been a good idea in the past?
[01:33] <kent_> I read about an application made by some ubuntu developer that lets you upgrade to Dapper more easely. Does some one know where it is? Im thinking of upgrading to Dapper and might aswell try that application to perhaps contribute with information about problems etc.
[01:33] <owner> Amaranth: =] 
[01:33] <npfet> Amaranth: damn... hopefully no loss of data..
[01:33] <_jason> Comrade_Sergei: read the wiki.  If someone else wants to tell you fine.  But it baffles me how you cannot take two minutes of your time to learn the answer to your question
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, (I certainly used it before I was registered.)
[01:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell Comrade_Sergei about root
[01:33] <Amaranth> ubuntugeek took the forums down for an hour last night to get a backup
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> mwe, Thanks, any suggestions to include?
[01:33] <owner> I need help with changing my screen resolution.
[01:33] <Comrade_Sergei> thanks
[01:33] <chrisbudden14> hello, I have copied a file to /etc/init.d, and would like to get it to run when my laptop starts up, what other rc folders do i need it linked in?
[01:33] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: It seems to have sparked the odd "Why is the bot ignoring me" but not much more than that.
[01:33] <mwe> tonyyarusso: to not paste in the channel :)
[01:34] <Determinist> anyone using NX here?
[01:34] <Comrade_Sergei> i forgot what trhe url is
[01:34] <_jason> ubotu: tell Determinist about anyone
[01:34] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Yours is a good idea, but do keep in mind a lot of people refuse to read. (Strange but true)
[01:34] <eugman> Does anyone have that link in some guys sig on how to change an ntfs partion to be readable by non root's?
[01:34] <kenoutten> hi, how do i get amaroK to detect my mp3 player?
[01:34] <owner> can somebody help me change my screen resoultion?
[01:34] <cafuego> !ntfs
[01:34] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[01:34] <eugman> Thanks amaranth
[01:34] <Determinist> _jason, how nice of you.
[01:34] <Amaranth> !tell owner about fixres
[01:34] <yud> Hi All
[01:34] <mwe> cafuego: yeah. in fact most people seem to refuse to read
[01:34] <Comrade_Sergei> ok which is better wine or cedega
[01:34] <Amaranth> hi yud
[01:34] <lilalinux> I AM SO STUPID
[01:35] <ekimus> eugman, add "uid=your-user-name,gid=users" to the options in fstab
[01:35] <mwe> lilalinux: turn off the caps anyway
[01:35] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: wine is better for apps, cedega is better for games
[01:35] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: but cedega also costs money
[01:35] <eugman> how do I edit fstab?
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, True.  I've seen that.  (And been baffled.)
[01:35] <Comrade_Sergei> hmm can u use wine for games
[01:35] <lilalinux> eugman: sudo vi /etc/fstab
[01:35] <Amaranth> eugman: gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[01:35] <mwe> Amaranth: and both suck in general
[01:35] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: You're a support channel! Support me, don't tell me to read stuff!
[01:36] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: Sometimes.
[01:36] <AlinuxOS> lilalinux, ? girl ? :)
[01:36] <kenoutten> can someone tell me how to get amaroK to recognize my mp3 player?
[01:36] <eugman> wouldn't sudo gedit /etc/fstab work?
[01:36] <yud> Anyone here who successfuly instaled a Radeon 9800 pro at ubuntu?
[01:36] <Comrade_Sergei> can u play command and conquer with it amaranth?
[01:36] <Amaranth> eugman: gksudo would be better, but yeah
[01:36] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: "- We're all volunteers and we'll volunteer to ignore you now. kthxbye' ;-)
[01:36] <lilalinux> alexandros: no?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  try it and see
[01:36] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: You'd have to try it and see.
[01:36] <lilalinux> AlinuxOS: no
[01:36] <eugman> argle bargle
[01:36] <Comrade_Sergei> well tell me how and ill try
[01:36] <MickMcMack> Did someone say "girl"?
[01:36] <Dr_Willis> yud,  i followed the wiki and got mine going
[01:36] <lilalinux> just because I said, that I was stupid you think I'm a girl?
[01:36] <ekimus> AlinuxOS,  what's that question about? like: a/s/l/bandwith *lol*
[01:37] <MickMcMack> Bah, back to idling. x(
[01:37] <eugman> oh it opens that gtk window.
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, It's even scripted!  It could be a bot skit!
[01:37] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: <heh>
[01:37] <yud> Dr_Willis, I didnt try thry the wiki, I will try and see if it works, tnx
[01:37] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth how do i put it on
[01:37] <Amaranth> lilalinux: No, it probably had something to do with your nick. lilalinux
[01:37] <lilalinux> 31/m/de/2-sdsl,6-adsl
[01:37] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I used to get into trouble on #debian for making the bots have conversations.
[01:37] <AlinuxOS> ekimus, :)pardon
[01:37] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: err, you install wine from synaptic
[01:38] <_lEo_> hey guys/gals
[01:38] <Dr_Willis> heh tip #1 - go to the wiki! Use the wiki Luke!
[01:38] <slide> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[01:38] <cafuego> slide: /topic
[01:38] <eugman> (gedit:9480): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[01:38] <npfet> slide: yes
[01:38] <eugman> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[01:38] <yud> Tnx, I will follow the force! LOL
[01:38] <eugman> that can't be good....
[01:38] <slide> ah hehe
[01:38] <_lEo_> slide: i was wondering the same
[01:38] <slide> thanks ;)
[01:38] <Amaranth> cafuego: I made two ALICE bots talk to each other once.
[01:38] <slide> Anyone use scilab?? I just installed it and when i run it, its showing weird characters in the terminal
[01:38] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth whats it called there
[01:38] <_lEo_> i just asked in #kubuntu to no avail
[01:38] <Amaranth> cafuego: They started quoting Thomas Jefferson or something then their brains died.
[01:39] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: 'wine'
[01:39] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Well, I was thinking of it as more of an ubotu split-personality thing.  But that could be amusing too.
[01:39] <_lEo_> what's going on with this server ? (ubuntuforums)
[01:39] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: you need to enable universe
[01:39] <Comrade_Sergei> i searched it and it turned back nothing
[01:39] <Comrade_Sergei> oh yea
[01:39] <Amaranth> _lEo_: Hardware failure or DDOS
[01:39] <cafuego> Amaranth: infinite loop? "Why do you say whay do you say why do you say ... ?"
[01:39] <eugman> do I put "uid=your-user-name,gid=users" at the bpttom or something?
[01:40] <Amaranth> cafuego: something like that
[01:40] <npfet> well... since forums are down... does flash player regularly freeze firefox for anyone else?
[01:40] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: They had a decidely un-funny "dude where's my car" routine :-)
[01:40] <npfet> (usualyl when the window is closed)
[01:40] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  fstab has a very specific format for it.. you may want to read a little about it.
[01:40] <cafuego> npfet: Yes
[01:40] <eugman> k
[01:40] <eugman> !fstab
[01:40] <ubotu> the /etc/fstab  file lists all drives and partitions but can be easily configured automatically with the diskmounter file found here http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter  See <partitions>.
[01:40] <npfet> i'm thinking maybe sound is tied up (sinec i'm usually playing music)
[01:40] <npfet> cafuego: any solutions?
[01:40] <cafuego> npfet: macromedia employs the ati linux coder, i think.
[01:40] <cafuego> npfet: Uninstall flashplayer.
[01:40] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth ok i thought i new how to do it but appaerntly i dont so how do u do that
[01:40] <Amaranth> cafuego: A friend had one running in an IRC room, I kept repeating "Daeken is a moron" to it to make it learn that instead of "Daeken is my owner", it kept refusing then gave in and core dumped (brain died)
[01:41] <Amaranth> !tell Comrade_Sergei about repos
[01:41] <twan> does ubuntu have the df command installed?
[01:41] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: yes
[01:41] <cafuego> twan: yes
[01:41] <cafuego> Amaranth: <heh>
[01:41] <bob_> Whats with the english forums.. how come they are constantly going down?
[01:41] <cafuego> bob_: karma
[01:41] <Dr_Willis> :P
[01:41] <cafuego> Use the mailing lists instead, they work.
[01:42] <zxz> i can't find the file ... please sent it to me ... /etc/init.d/networking
[01:42] <eugman> doea rw mean read,write and ro mean read only in fstab?
[01:42] <ekimus> anyone could help me with postfix+sasl+postgres? i have the setup so that it reads a password from a pgsql database (sql statement correct according to logs), sasl itself seems to work according to what "telnet <host> 25" tells me
[01:42] <npfet> cafuego: eh uninstall flash player.. but i want to play flash.. ?
[01:42] <Amaranth> bob_: It's more than likely hardware failure this time and last time, before that it was script kiddies DDoS'ing it.
[01:42] <cafuego> npfet: conundrum :-)
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> they need a "forum down forum"
[01:42] <Dr_Willis> :p
[01:42] <cafuego> npfet: That was the only way I know of to make flash not suck.
[01:42] <Comrade_Aleksi> eugman, precisely
[01:42] <amonkey> is there something that it is like sudo, but doesn't stop working with sudoers sucks?
[01:42] <mwe> Dr_Willis: is it down --- again?
[01:42] <ekimus> amonkey, what?
[01:42] <tonyyarusso> eugman, Yes.
[01:42] <Amaranth> Flash in Firefox on Linux is crap.
[01:43] <Amaranth> Flash in Opera on Linux is supposedly much better.
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, Mine works.
[01:43] <honey|me> postfix: fatal: /etc/postfix/main.cf, line 60: missing '=' after attribute name: "amavis unix - - - - 2 smtp        -o smtp_data_done_timeout=1200        -o smtp_send_xforward_command=yes"
[01:43] <cafuego> s/in Firefox on Linux /
[01:43] <amonkey> ekimus, i screwed sudoers, and apparently my root password is not what ithought it was
[01:43] <ekimus> Amaranth, flash is crap :)
[01:43] <zxz> cafuego, please paste the content of that file in a copy/paste web
[01:43] <honey|me> line 61 its empty
[01:43] <npfet> cafuego: heh
[01:43] <geargolem> can I copy my breezy files to my 2nd hd and install windows, then breezy on my second hd?
[01:43] <honey|me> http://pastebin.com/516852
[01:43] <Amaranth> tonyyarusso: it's buggy, slow, and usually fails to sync audio and video
[01:43] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  see - if we had a forum about the forums being down, yoyu could read about it there!
[01:43] <cafuego> honey|me: That is a line that's supposed to go in master.cf, not main.cf
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, That much I've seen occasionally.
[01:43] <Comrade_Aleksi> flashy crap. flap!
[01:44] <npfet> Amaranth: think flash with epiphany would be much better?  or just flash with gecko sucks in general...
[01:44] <Amaranth> npfet: Flash with Gecko on Linux
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> geargolem, Yes, provided you modify your bootloader menu to know that it moved.  Do you need to do that for Windows to work?
[01:44] <zxz> anyone please put the content of the /etc/init.d/networking on pastebin, please i had eased it
[01:44] <honey|me> cafuego  thanks
[01:44] <Amaranth> npfet: It works great on OS X and Windows, I don't understand why.
[01:44] <slide> Does anyone know how to get azureus magnet links to work in firefox
[01:44] <ekimus> amonkey, ah ok to fix boot in single mode and reset your root password, and if you use visudo for editing the file it checks the syntax and asks you to re edit the file in case of errors
[01:44] <owner> who can help me fix my resolution? Its on 680
[01:44] <geargolem> tonyyarusso, if I could just install windows on my 2nd hd i would be happy
[01:44] <jefferson> could someone tell me how to "compile source files"
[01:44] <ekimus> !compile
[01:44] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[01:44] <Amaranth> npfet: Seeing how it appearently works great in Opera on Linux (it's the same plugin for both).
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> geargolem, Why can't you?
[01:45] <geargolem> tonyyarusso, i don't know how
[01:45] <npfet> Amaranth: yah.... that is weird....
[01:45] <npfet> Amaranth: i wonder if it just goes back to how sound is handled
[01:45] <Amaranth> maybe
[01:45] <amonkey> ekimus, how do i get to single mode? i was gonna live cd
[01:45] <Comrade_Sergei> downloading wine now!
[01:45] <npfet> Amaranth: any idea if gecko goes through /dev/dsp or esd/arts or?
[01:45] <Amaranth> npfet: /dev/dsp, afaik
[01:45] <npfet> (or dependent on browser)
[01:45] <npfet> hrm
[01:45] <ekimus> amonkey, live cd will work, if youre used to that just go that way
[01:46] <zxz> anyone ...
[01:46] <mwe> amonkey: you can't if you don't have root password
[01:46] <zxz> is so hard to copy paste that file for me pleasee
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> geargolem, Hm.  I suppose Windows is too dumb to ask where to put itself, isn't it?
[01:46] <ph8> hi all, i'm hoping someone can help me with some issues i've had installing grsec, the forum link is here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120373
[01:46] <Amaranth> zxz: Your question must have gotten lost, please ask again.
[01:46] <geargolem> tonyyarusso, that would be my guess
[01:46] <Amaranth> ph8: forums are down
[01:46] <robotic> hi, how do I choose which packets to install during installation ?
[01:46] <ekimus> mwe, ubuntu default setup boots into single user mode without asking for a password...
[01:46] <zxz> please copy paste the content of the /etc/init.d/networking on pastebin
[01:46] <bina> hi, is there a way to get apt-get to ignore an installed package when i do apt-get upgrade?
[01:46] <zxz> i had erased it by mistake
[01:46] <amonkey> mwe, bummer. i always thought the root password was mine... but it was always sudo
[01:47] <zxz> Amaranth, please
[01:47] <cafuego> zxz: paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7463
[01:47] <zxz> god, thank you
[01:47] <jefferson> im stuck trying to install my network card drivers
[01:47] <Amaranth> zxz: I'm not on Ubuntu right now, try cafuego's link
[01:47] <Comrade_Aleksi> zxz: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7464
[01:47] <cafuego> Ooh, I got a promotion.
[01:47] <bob_> diskmounter
[01:47] <arm0sfighter> some ideot banned me how do i get my name off the ban list
[01:47] <bob_> !diskmounter
[01:47] <ubotu> diskmounter is, like, totally, to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[01:48] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth k how do i use it now
[01:48] <Amaranth> zxz: Of course, he might have modified his so it'd be better to use apt-file to figure out what package created it
[01:48] <cafuego> arm0sfighter: Probably by behaving and waiting.
[01:48] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: how do you use WINE?
[01:48] <owner> who can help me change my screen resolution to a lower amount?
[01:48] <arm0sfighter> k lol...
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> ekimus,  Does it then ask for a password for single user if the root password gets set?
[01:48] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: it should be setup so double clicking on an exe file opens it in WINE.
[01:48] <jefferson> owner you screen resolution is in system->prefrences
[01:48] <|Bou|> sorry but
[01:48] <ekimus> tonyyarusso, if you set a password for root afair yes
[01:48] <eugman> hooboy this can't be good. I know have two copies of each changed partition under computer and both unreadable...
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, Since you're here, you've obviously been unbanned.  The more important thing is to understand why you were banned, and not do it again.
[01:49] <arm0sfighter> is there a way to install MPlayer from synaptic package manager? cause its not letting me 'make' in terminal it says invalid command
[01:49] <|Bou|> do you know where I can get help about abiword?
[01:49] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth i did the synaptic thing
[01:49] <owner> jefferson: the highest is 600 which is the one I got
[01:49] <arm0sfighter> no i havent
[01:49] <arm0sfighter> i had to change my nickname
[01:49] <Comrade_Sergei> it loaded and it installed
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, I'd suggest starting by not calling the ops idiots.
[01:49] <arm0sfighter> to 0 instead of o
[01:49] <arm0sfighter> lol
[01:49] <Comrade_Sergei> now how do i use it
[01:49] <Amaranth> owner: Oh, I thought you meant you were stuck at 640x480, you want System->Preferences then.
[01:49] <npfet> Amaranth: I guess I could always try the open source flash player..
[01:49] <mwe> arm0sfighter: sudo apt-get install mplayer-386
[01:49] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: I just told you.
[01:49] <mwe> arm0sfighter: or the same in synaptic
[01:49] <Amaranth> npfet: Gnash is crap
[01:49] <npfet> Amaranth: is it? Damn
[01:49] <mwe> arm0sfighter: enable universe though
[01:49] <Comrade_Aleksi> |Bou| here: http://www.abisource.com/support/
[01:49] <owner> Amaranth: I am stuck at 640x480..
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, Okay, so what did you do?
[01:49] <jefferson> owner what do you mean there should be a bunch there
[01:50] <Amaranth> owner: ubotu sent you a PM with a link that tells you how to fix it
[01:50] <arm0sfighter> i message ubotu in the room
[01:50] <arm0sfighter> twice and then someone told me not to
[01:50] <arm0sfighter> next time i try and get on
[01:50] <arm0sfighter> it wont let me talk
[01:50] <Comrade_Sergei> ok  amaranth i need to mount  my windows partition to get the exe file how do i do that now
[01:50] <arm0sfighter> and im on the ban list
[01:50] <Comrade_Sergei> i no im getting annoying
[01:50] <Comrade_Sergei> srry
[01:50] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: Put in the install CD.
[01:50] <jefferson> anyone know how to compile driver source files for a dlink network card
[01:51] <robotic> hi, how do I choose which packets to install during ubuntu installation ?
[01:51] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth windows partition
[01:51] <Comrade_Sergei> cant i just do it through the mnt folder somehow
[01:51] <ekimus> robotic, you don't you do that afterwards....
[01:51] <Amaranth> robotic: boot the install cd with the 'server' option, it'll install a minimal amount of things
[01:51] <kotatsu> Anyone able to recommmend a PCI or USB wireless card that will work out of the box with Ubuntu?
[01:51] <slide> I just installed Scilab and when i run it, it shows weird characters in the terminal instead of english characters, anyone know how to change it?
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, Generally you should only message the bot in the room if it's for multiple other people to see.  I'm a little surprised that two got you banned, but even if a little trigger-happy, it was justified by the general rules governing the channel.
[01:51] <Amaranth> robotic: you'll get enough packages installed to login (cli), edit files, and install more things
[01:52] <owner> Amaranth: The ubotu didn't send me anything xP
[01:52] <Comrade_Sergei> how do i mount a windows partition?
[01:52] <|Bou|> thanks a lot Comrade_Aleksi
[01:52] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: You can't play the already installed version.
[01:52] <Amaranth> !fixres
[01:52] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[01:52] <Amaranth> owner: ^^
[01:52] <arm0sfighter> not really i did it twice then he told me not too i had no idea what the problem was
[01:52] <johnl> on booting dapper flight cd 3 it fails right after uncompressing kernel, with a bunch of "no record for /block/ram0 in database" errors.  any ideas?
[01:52] <eugman> I don't have to reboot for changes to fstab to take effect do I?
[01:52] <owner> !fixres
[01:52] <mwe> kotatsu: any prism or prism2 based card
[01:52] <owner> Thanks
[01:52] <Comrade_Aleksi> |Bou| you are welcome.  Good luck to you!
[01:52] <mcdenyer> after i do sudo apt-get update do i need to somewhow install the updates?
[01:52] <Amaranth> owner: Don't do it again :P
[01:52] <Comrade_Sergei> i no i downloaded it amaranth on my windows partiton
[01:52] <robotic> Amaranth: I'm installing from an ISO image, where do I get to pick the server option ?
[01:53] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, You will be removed from the ban list when the ops think you have served your time, and decide to remove you.  If you'd like to plead with them, check out !ops (this time in a pm with ubotu), and you can try asking.  (I'd just wait though.)
[01:53] <kotatsu> mwe: that's what I've read, but I'm having a hard time finding solid information what what actual cards *use* those chips
[01:53] <owner> Amaranth: Lol.. Sorry..
[01:53] <Comrade_Sergei> i dont have a disck that works
[01:53] <arm0sfighter> ok
[01:53] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: Sorry, I'm not going to help you break the law.
[01:53] <kotatsu> mwe: any idea if there's a reasonably current list of models out there?
[01:53] <mwe> kotatsu: hmm
[01:53] <mwe> kotatsu: not really, sorry
[01:53] <kotatsu> mwe: darn =\ ok, thanks
[01:53] <Comrade_Sergei> amaranth no god i put the files on my HDD so i didnt ruin the disc
[01:53] <owner> Amaranth: Can you send it to me agian? =[
[01:53] <mcdenyer> mwe after i do apt-get update do i need to install the updates somehow?
[01:54] <Amaranth> !tell owner about fixres
[01:54] <mwe> mcdenyer: to what?
[01:54] <Amaranth> owner: ubotu _just_ sent you a PM with a link
[01:54] <mcdenyer> mwe after i do sudo apt-get update do i need to install the updates i just downloaded?
[01:54] <joel1198> hi
[01:54] <mwe> mcdenyer: usually sudo apt-get update should be followed by sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, What's the length limit on factoids?
[01:54] <joel1198> someone please help me
[01:54] <|Bou|> hm but I'm afraid the info I need is not there
[01:54] <Comrade_Sergei> so can i do it amaranth?
[01:54] <mcdenyer> mwe whats dist-upgrade?
[01:55] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: One moment please
[01:55] <Amaranth> !tell Comrade_Sergei about windowsdrives
[01:55] <|Bou|> do you know how to change the button layout in Abiword?
[01:55] <joel1198> I'm trying to install an Asterisk server on an Ubuntu desktop
[01:55] <mwe> mcdenyer: upgrades all new packages. please read man apt-get
[01:55] <Comrade_Sergei> thanks
[01:55] <joel1198> when I try to do the "make install" command an error message says that command doesn't exist
[01:56] <|Bou|> I can change the buttons' location with right button, but not of boxes or separators
[01:56] <joel1198> someone has an answer for this???
[01:56] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: According to mysql it's a TEXT field, so no inherent limit. I believe the bot itself chops it off at 255 or so chars.
[01:56] <sampan> joel1198  you need to install the build-essential package (sudo apt-get install build-essential)
[01:56] <mwe> mcdenyer: and it only installs updates of course. only brings in new packages if dependencies have changed
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Thanks.
[01:56] <_jason> I added my user to a group.  Is there a way for the system to recognize him as a member of the group without logging out and back in?  ('groups' doesn't list the group and I don't have permissions on a folder)
[01:57] <joel1198> how my friend???
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> joel1198, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[01:57] <tonyyarusso> joel1198, In a terminal.  (Applications > Accessories > Terminal)
[01:58] <sampan> joel1198  yep, what tonyyarusso said
[01:58] <ekimus> _jason, if you just need a terminal that knows about the new group open one and do "bash -l"
[01:58] <NCLife> where can i get help with gdesklets issues?
[01:58] <bina> hi, is there a way to get apt-get to ignore an installed package when i do apt-get upgrade?  Sorry if someone replied to this, connection went all weird
[01:58] <arm0sfighter> i keep on getting the error E: Package mplayer-386 had no installation candidate
[01:58] <arm0sfighter> do i have to put another link in my repositories?
[01:58] <Comrade_Sergei> wow thats cool thanks much amaranth!
[01:58] <joel1198> just need to run the command sudo apt-get install build-essential ????
[01:58] <_jason> ekimus: thanks
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> arm0sfighter, Yes.
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> !tell arm0sfighter about multiverse
[01:59] <Comrade_Vasily> |Bou| maybe this will help? http://www.abisource.com/twiki/bin/view/Abiword/FaqAlteringToolbarsAndKeyboardShortcuts
[01:59] <tonyyarusso> joel1198, Correct.  Then try the make stuff again.
[01:59] <arm0sfighter> gracias
[01:59] <joel1198> thank you people !!
[01:59] <mwe> yw !!
[01:59] <Comrade_Sergei> umm i dont think wime is working as it says it cant display the file i want
[02:00] <tonyyarusso> Comrade_Sergei, What are you trying to do with it?
[02:01] <Comrade_Sergei> play a game
[02:01] <Comrade_Vasily> What Would Linus Do?
[02:01] <jefferson> anyone know how to compile the driver source files in a folder?
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Comrade_Sergei, Could be an issue with it.  wine isn't perfect, and many games need cedega instead.
[02:01] <honey|me> cafuego why telnet localhost 25 doesnt work after i install postfix with courier-imap ?
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> Comrade_Sergei, Run Linux, obviously.
[02:01] <honey|me> cafuego they are up and running :(
[02:01] <[reed] > What's a package to use for a simple smartmail relay thing? I want to relay mail from a box to another box and then send it out (so the first box's ip isn't given out in headers).
[02:02] <cafuego> honey|me: Installed it wrong?
[02:02] <tonyyarusso> [reed] , I've never done such a thing, but possibly with postfix?
[02:02] <cafuego> honey|me: is postfix not listening on 127.0.0.1?
[02:02] <honey|me> cafuego hmm well what can i do wrong ?
[02:02] <honey|me> cafuego it is
[02:02] <[reed] > tonyyarusso: I'd perfer something smaller
[02:03] <[reed] > I don't need all of postfix's features
[02:03] <[reed] > only mail out
[02:03] <[reed] > no mail will come in
[02:03] <cafuego> honey|me: Check with 'sudo netstat -nap'
[02:03] <Comrade_Vasily> jefferson it depends.  you should check the source for a README, or INSTALL file, and use those instructions.  sometimes, it is as simple as : gcc -o foo foo.c but other times, you may need to use ./configure && make && make install for examples.
[02:03] <cafuego> !info nullmailer
[02:03] <ubotu> nullmailer: (simple relay-only mail transport agent), section universe/mail, is extra. Version: 1.00RC7-22 (breezy), Packaged size: 77 kB, Installed size: 408 kB
[02:03] <[reed] > that's it!
[02:03] <[reed] > Thanks, cafuego. :)
[02:04] <jefferson> all it says in the documentation is compile driver source files and you will get rhinefet.0
[02:04] <jefferson> sorry o
[02:04] <_-AnTHo-_> hey neone have a quick 5 mins to help out a noob running Ubuntu 5.10? :P
[02:04] <Doggette> I'm booting to the LiveCD for the first time on a Powerbook G3, and the hardware detection is all chopped up on the screen.
[02:05] <Comrade_Sergei> tonyyarusso u know of a free cedega
[02:05] <Comrade_Vasily> jefferson in that case something like: gcc -c foo.c would produce foo.o
[02:05] <jefferson> k ill try it
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> Comrade_Sergei, I've heard that would be the cvs version.
[02:05] <honey|me> cafuego hmm cannot see it listed
[02:06] <Comrade_Sergei> tonyyarusso for free
[02:06] <cafuego> honey|me: Then it's not listening.
[02:06] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: join #cedega, they'll help you compile the CVS version of cedega (it's free, but doesn't have any support for SafeDisc and etc)
[02:06] <cartesian1984> uhg, I have tried everything, and 3D accel still isn't working......
[02:06] <ssstormy> is there a way to use part of my RAM and mount it on my filesystem?
[02:06] <ssstormy> so I'd have kinda like a disc drive
[02:06] <Doggette> Anyone have any expereience with old Powerbooks and Ubuntu?
[02:06] <ssstormy> except it would be in RAM?
[02:06] <cartesian1984> Dr_Willis, how did you get 3D acceleration working with a radeon?
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy, /proc is RAM, I believe.
[02:07] <twan> I need to install and xml parser
[02:07] <twan> whats the command?
[02:07] <twan> install an xml parser*
[02:07] <ssstormy> tonyyarusso, really?  cool.  How much space?  unlimited?
[02:07] <jefferson> i just keep getting command nor found
[02:07] <cafuego> ssstormy: You can use tmpfs.
[02:07] <_jason> jefferson: which command?
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy, Well no, you only have so much RAM.
[02:07] <Comrade_Sergei> k some one walk me through installing wine please
[02:07] <slide> I just installed Scilab and when i run it, it shows weird characters in the terminal instead of english characters, anyone know how to change it? http://img79.imageshack.us/my.php?image=screenshot9qv.png
[02:08] <twan> !ubotu
[02:08] <ubotu> Yep, that's me! I'm a bot alright. Read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbotuUsage to find out how to use me. Do NOT play with me in any channel.
[02:08] <artemis3> breezy here, question: if i move a window or scroll a text while sound is playing in anything (lyke rhythmbox) the sound stutters. any ideas to fix?
[02:08] <cafuego> /proc is a special virtual fs. Don't mess with it.
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> cartesian1984,  it was with my laptops x200m chipset.
[02:08] <jefferson> gcc
[02:08] <_-AnTHo-_> Well i'm just ognna say it, i've been trying now for the life of me how to a: make the dock transparent, not just the part behind the icons but the whole dock and b: change the words Applications Places and System to just icons, can neone help?
[02:08] <_jason> jefferson: sudo apt-get install build-essential
[02:08] <Dr_Willis> cartesian1984,  it workjed fine - which amazed me
[02:08] <cafuego> jefferson: What are you trying to compile?
[02:08] <Comrade_Sasha> jefferson: you should do: sudo apt-get build-essential before trying to compile anything
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> ssstormy, cafuego knows more than me, so mind his warning.
[02:08] <honey|me> cafuego what can i do ?
[02:08] <jefferson> k
[02:08] <twan> ubotu tell twan about xml parser
[02:08] <cafuego> And do you think compiling stuff is a good idea if you have _no_ idea how to?
[02:08] <honey|me> cafuego i did start it and now restart it same thing
[02:08] <ssstormy> cafuego, how do I specify how big it should be?
[02:08] <sethk> Comrade_Sasha, not just should, must.
[02:08] <twan> ubotu tell twan about xml
[02:09] <cafuego> ssstormy: size=
[02:09] <jefferson> says invalid operation
[02:09] <Comrade_Sasha> sethk: be pedantic with your semantics for sure!
[02:09] <cafuego> ssstormy: I'm fairly sure 'man mount' has it listed.
[02:09] <cafuego> jefferson: What are you trying to compile?
[02:09] <twan> I need to install an XML parser...any suggestions?
[02:09] <jefferson> driver for my dlink card
[02:09] <cartesian1984> Dr_Willis.....damn it....I hope I don't have to get a new video card just for this...
[02:09] <cafuego> Whioch driver is that?
[02:09] <ssstormy> sweet
[02:09] <ssstormy> thanks guys
[02:10] <jefferson> ahh its a network card
[02:10] <cafuego> honey|me: 'sudo netstat -nap | grep :25'
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> Is elinks probably the best text-only browser?
[02:10] <cafuego> honey|me: What's that say?
[02:10] <PTK> hey guys
[02:10] <Comrade_Sergei> every one is stealing my comrade thing
[02:10] <Random1> how can i change my screen's position without using the monitor settings? (like move it up, down, left, and right)
[02:10] <blenderdude> all i wanted was friends
[02:10] <blenderdude> and the guy in blender banned me
[02:10] <blenderdude> like that MickMcMack dude
[02:10] <blenderdude> please ban him
[02:10] <jefferson> im just following the linux instructions but they are from 2003 and im stuck at the compile drivers crap
[02:10] <cafuego> blenderdude: Please go complain elsewhere.
[02:10] <robotic> has anyone here installed ubuntu from an ISO image before ?
[02:11] <honey|me> cafuego tcp        0      0 0.0.0.0:25              0.0.0.0:*               LISTEN     8419/master
[02:11] <blenderdude> ok :(
[02:11] <blenderdude> nobody listens me
[02:11] <blenderdude> nobody like me
[02:11] <lilalinux> how do i enable ssh to my machine?
[02:11] <cafuego> honey|me: Ok, so it *is* running.
[02:11] <honey|me> cafuego tcp       20      0 127.0.0.1:25            127.0.0.1:38580         CLOSE_WAIT -
[02:11] <Comrade_Mikhail> Comrade_Sergei they are all insane and trying to steal your magic bag! ;-)
[02:11] <cafuego> honey|me: and your telnet DID connect.
[02:11] <lysis> lilalinux, you need to install an ssh server.   sudo apt-cache search sshd        you'll find a suitable ssh server.
[02:11] <Comrade_Sergei> gah u too go away!
[02:11] <honey|me> cafuego hmm
[02:11] <honey|me> cafuego why not ?
[02:11] <cartesian1984> Dr_Willis, did you use the drivers in the repository provided on the wiki?
[02:12] <honey|me> cafuego what it can be ?
[02:12] <cafuego> honey|me: Check /var/log/mail.log and /var/log/mail.err
[02:12] <Comrade_Sergei> toomany socialitst
[02:12] <Comrade_Sergei> not that thats bad
[02:13] <PTK> is it possible to convert a 64 bit system to a 32 bit one?
[02:13] <cafuego> PTK: Not without a reinstall.
[02:13] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PTK: do you mean run 32bit on a 64bit system?
[02:13] <cafuego> And if it's an Itanium, not without a hammer.
[02:13] <honey|me> cafuego Jan 22 01:12:50 Tupacfan postfix/master[8419] : warning: /usr/lib/postfix/proxymap: bad command startup -- throttling     /var/log/mail.log
[02:13] <cafuego> honey|me: Your config is broken.
[02:14] <PTK> CanYouHelpMePlz, no I mean convert to a complete 32bit userland.. I'm assuming kernel doesn't matter can change that later
[02:14] <honey|me> cafuego nice
[02:15] <cafuego> honey|me: Specifically, the proxymap entry in master.cf
[02:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> PTK: like cafuego said, not without a reinstall
[02:15] <cafuego> PTK: BUT
[02:15] <PTK> hmmm what if I force dpkg to install i386 bins?
[02:16] <PTK> cafuego, BUT?
[02:16] <cafuego> PTK: You can boot the install cd, mount /, rm -rf all but /home and install without wiping.
[02:16] <dhonn> what does this mean? "The following packages have been kept back"
[02:16] <honey|me> cafuego  proxymap  unix  -       -       n       -       -       proxymap
[02:16] <honey|me> cafuego  i didnt touch this section
[02:16] <CanYouHelpMePlz> what would be a command to backup and compress my home folder?
[02:17] <cafuego> honey|me: Yes, that looks fine. Do you have another proxymap line anywhere?
[02:17] <tonyyarusso> CanYouHelpMePlz, You can do it with tar.
[02:17] <owner> thanks alot Amaranth ;)
[02:17] <artemis3> nobody knows about audio stuttering problems?
[02:17] <PTK> tar cjvf name.tar.bz /home/username?
[02:17] <CanYouHelpMePlz> tonyyarusso: ok.
[02:17] <honey|me> cafuego  nope
[02:17] <steve_laptop> has anyone upgraded from 5.10 to 6.04?
[02:17] <cafuego> dhonn: It means those packages depend on something that's not yet available. Installing them would break the system so they're held back for now.
[02:18] <cafuego> honey|me: Did you edit the line above or below it?
[02:18] <idefix_> ubotu knows nothing!
[02:18] <ubotu> I don't know, idefix_
[02:18] <kent> steve_laptop, im doing it right now.  downloading the packages right now.  (using the update-manager provided by M. vogt.)
[02:19] <cafuego> idefix_: It's a perl script, of course it knows nothing.
[02:19] <honey|me> cafuego no , i only add amavis  setting to the bottom
[02:19] <Comrade_Mikhail> idefix_ ubotu knows about 813 nothings! ;-)
[02:19] <cafuego> Comrade_Mikhail: I trashed about 100 of them just then, actually.
[02:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is bz2 better compression or .gz ?
[02:19] <ubuntu> hi
[02:19] <steve_laptop> kent, id everthing going well?
[02:19] <cafuego> CanYouHelpMePlz: .bz2 is better, but slower.
[02:19] <steve_laptop> id = is
[02:19] <Comrade_Mikhail> CanYouHelpMePlz not always
[02:19] <CanYouHelpMePlz> cafuego: thanks.
[02:19] <tonyyarusso> Hi ubuntu.
[02:19] <ubuntu> can i ask a question
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, Of course.
[02:20] <cafuego> honey|me: Replace it with the original file, then see...
[02:20] <ubuntu> at the moment im running a live ubunto but i want dual boot with xp how do i do that
[02:20] <steve_laptop> kent, you have a link on this?
[02:20] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, I saw that the site has a list of factoids by creation date with creator, etc.  Is there a page with just a simple alphabetical and/or topical list of them?
[02:20] <kent> steve_laptop, yeah, it seems so. Im just downloading the packages right now,  I have ~30min left untill it starts to install them.
[02:20] <ompaul_> cafuego, midnight party :)
[02:20] <kent> steve_laptop, just a second.
[02:20] <Delvien> Anyone know that app that you can make certain windows and apps transparent??
[02:21] <_jason> ubotu: tell ubuntu about dualboot
[02:21] <ssstormy> has anyone here used pureadmin?
[02:21] <ssstormy> I'm having a million and one issues with it
[02:21] <honey|me> cafuego same , it might be because i use ssl ?
[02:21] <steve_laptop> lets see if we can kill this laptop lol
[02:21] <francesco_> ciao a tutti
[02:22] <nofear> Delvien, i'd like to know that my self too :)
[02:22] <nofear> that would be awsome
[02:22] <maccam94> amaranth: thanks for siccing Comrade_Sergei on us in #cedega. he's being a real a-hole
[02:22] <Comrade_Sergei> hey
[02:22] <PTK> is it possible to change where dpkg installs a package?
[02:22] <kent> steve_laptop,  I found the information about it on ubuntu-devel mailinglist. It says to add: "deb http://people.ubuntu.com/~mvo/backports/update-manager /" to sources.list (do you know how to?) and install update-manager.  Then just run it.
[02:22] <Comrade_Sergei> i have to go kill someone now
[02:22] <Comrade_Mikhail> What Would Linus Do?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> steve_laptop, I've installed dual bot on two computers, and both were fine, for reassurance.
[02:23] <ubuntu> i know i have to set a partition but it tells me there isnt enough space
[02:23] <kent> steve_laptop, though for me I cant run it from the menu becaus it askes for the root password which is not activated. But I can run it from a terminal with sudo.
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> steve_laptop, Sorry, that totally wasn't for you.
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, ^^
[02:23] <Amaranth> maccam94: err, sorry?
[02:23] <Comrade_Sergei> AMARANTH WHAT DID U DO?
[02:23] <Amaranth> maccam94: It's not my fault ops there can't handle their channel. :P
[02:23] <steve_laptop> LOL
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, You'll have to resize the Windows one first.
[02:23] <maccam94> Amaranth: thanks, but there wasn't anyone on
[02:23] <Random1> how can i change my screen's position without using the monitor settings? (like move it up, down, left, and right)
[02:23] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: I have no idea, but please don't shout.
[02:24] <Comrade_Sergei> they said u banned me in cedega
[02:24] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: I'm not even in #cedega, how could I have banned you?
[02:24] <Comrade_Sergei> they werent very friendly i must say
[02:24] <Delvien> Maybe you desirved it Comrade_Sergei ?
[02:24] <Comrade_Sergei> i dunno they asked u oo
[02:24] <alaruz> I am having some trouble with an rt2500 based wlan card. Any ideas? I can build the module and everything, but device is not present in iwconfig
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, The install CD lets you do that safely.  (I'm assuming WinXP is already on the computer and Ubuntu's what you want to add now.)
[02:24] <Comrade_Sergei> no t really
[02:24] <kent> steve_laptop, though im watching tv now so I cant write more. send me a pm if you want to ask.
[02:25] <Krelbel> does anyone know how to fix the tiny subtitles in .mkv files playing through Totem?
[02:25] <Comrade_Sergei> go to #cedega and ask for a copy of it
[02:25] <ubuntu> yes tonyyarusso
[02:25] <Krelbel> not really a ubuntu question, just wondering if anyone knows off hand
[02:25] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: They're don't tolerate people who aren't willing to help themselves. Did they at least give you a link to a FAQ or something first?
[02:25] <jefferson> k im back how do i execute a file in the terminal window
[02:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is their anything i can do on linux to reclaim wasted space, like clearing cache on windows?
[02:25] <ubuntu> but it says i dont have enough space to create a partition
[02:25] <CanYouHelpMePlz> jefferson: if it's executable ./filename
[02:25] <jefferson> cool
[02:25] <Amaranth> CanYouHelpMePlz: That'd be in firefox.
[02:26] <steve_laptop> kent,  thanks i got it from here....
[02:26] <jefferson> ./filename
[02:26] <Comrade_Sergei> Amaranth they gave me a crappy demo that didnteen work anyways
[02:26] <Amaranth> CanYouHelpMePlz: It's in the firefox preferences.
[02:26] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Amaranth: i mean like just in linux, like a way to clear space?
[02:26] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei: I know nothing about cedega, sorry.
[02:26] <nightwing> Is Ubuntu Forums down, I assume?
[02:26] <Comrade_Mikhail> PTK dpkg --instdir=newpath --install=path_of_DEB_file  - change "newpath" to the path you wish to install to
[02:26] <Comrade_Sergei> but u have admin abilities i wish i had
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, Am I correct in thinking what you mean is you've already attempted the install CD, and you got this message then?
[02:26] <Amaranth> CanYouHelpMePlz: well, clearing out /tmp might help but there are things in there that are needed
[02:26] <ubuntu> because i am new i was informed that ubunto would be the best ice breaker for me
[02:27] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Amaranth: i see
[02:27] <ubuntu> yes thats right
[02:27] <Amaranth> nightwing: look at the topic
[02:27] <jefferson> ok its not executable apparently
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, Sounds like a good recommendation to me.  I'm liking it a lot so far.
[02:27] <PTK> muahaha lets see if my system survies this change
[02:27] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Amaranth: i have a suspicion their is a 2gigabyte tar file i can't find.
[02:27] <Amaranth> ubuntu: you need to resize your windows partition
[02:27] <nightwing> Amaranth: OK... thanks
[02:27] <Comrade_Mikhail> muahahaha!
[02:27] <Amaranth> CanYouHelpMePlz: err, i don't see why that would be
[02:27] <ubuntu> the thing that i dont understand is that i have a 250 gig drive
[02:27] <jefferson> i read the file and it will give the output i want but when i try to execute it I get command not found
[02:27] <Comrade_Sergei> ill come back tomarow maybe then some one can help
[02:27] <Comrade_Sergei> bye!
[02:28] <Amaranth> Comrade_Sergei:
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, And Windows is currently hogging ALL of it.
[02:28] <Delvien> Anyone know that app that you can make certain windows and apps transparent??
[02:28] <Amaranth> err
[02:28] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Amaranth: i tried a backup with archive manager then canceled it
[02:28] <arrinmurr> CanYouHelpMePlz: try to install kdirstat
[02:28] <ubuntu> 250 gig though thats a bit stretched surely even for mr gates and his crew
[02:28] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, First, boot Windows and run the disk defragmenter.  (Start > Programs > Applications > System Tools > Degragment)
[02:28] <Amaranth> ubuntu: Windows is probably setup to use the entire drive
[02:28] <ubuntu> did that
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, Windows doesn't need it all, but uses it all by default.
[02:29] <Amaranth> ubuntu: the ubuntu installer will let you resize it
[02:29] <arrinmurr> CanYouHelpMePlz: it shows you graphically how much space each file on your hard drive uses.
[02:29] <cartesian1984> ok......so I installed the ATI drivers........and now X is broken, so I changed it back to fglrx. How do I get the ATI drivers to work?
[02:29] <ubuntu> yeah did that too lol
[02:29] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, When you get to the partioning part, select Manually edit hte partition table.
[02:29] <Amaranth> ubuntu: make the windows partition about 20GB smaller than it is right now
[02:29] <CanYouHelpMePlz> arrinmurr: ok got it installed
[02:29] <ubuntu> ok
[02:29] <Amaranth> cartesian1984: fglrx is the ati driver
[02:29] <jefferson> how do i make a file executable
[02:30] <cartesian1984> Amaranth, I mean I am using the proprietary ones
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, After that resize you should be able to make partitions for Ubuntu just fine.
[02:30] <ubuntu> 1 thing i didnt mention is that i have 3 partitions already will that matter
[02:30] <Kleggas> jefferson: chmod +x file
[02:30] <Amaranth> cartesian1984: fglrx is the proprietary one
[02:30] <CanYouHelpMePlz> arrinmurr: thanks a ton relaimed a gig already :-)
[02:30] <ubuntu> 2 100's and a 50
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, Nope.  Just choose which one to change.
[02:30] <cartesian1984> Amaranth, I see
[02:30] <Amaranth> ubuntu: no, you just need to resize one of them to make room
[02:30] <arrinmurr> CanYouHelpMePlz: :)
[02:30] <ubuntu> ok no prob ill try that later thanks guys
[02:30] <nofear> cartesian1984, what i did for mine to work, I went to skynaptics and searched for fglrx and installed it, then edit Xorg.conf and changed the "ati" driver to fglrx driver and rebooted xwindows and it worked.
[02:31] <ubuntu> whats the best software for web design with linux
[02:31] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, nvu.
[02:31] <cartesian1984> nofear, I tried that, to no avail.
[02:31] <ubuntu> nvu
[02:31] <nofear> did you enabled universe in apt?
[02:31] <ompaul> ubuntu,  nvu has a good name
[02:31] <asaee> hello there, i have ubuntu 5.10 amd 64. how can i install kde on it ?
[02:31] <nofear> universe was enable when i did mine
[02:31] <ompaul> asaee, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <ubuntu> i currently use dreamweaver
[02:32] <cartesian1984> nofear, I have them installed.....just when I don't get 3d accel
[02:32] <robotic> can anybody access the web forums ?
[02:32] <asaee> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:32] <cartesian1984> when I do, I don't get 3D accel*
[02:32] <ubuntu> is that nvu .org
[02:32] <nofear> thats odd
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, I've also heard that Dreamweaver might run with wine, but that's a bit sketchy.
[02:32] <nofear> what type card you using?
[02:32] <Amaranth> robotic: look at the topic
[02:32] <asaee> ompaul, i had an error: E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:33] <ompaul> asaee, I read it and am sitting here scratching my head
[02:33] <nofear> i have a ATI Radeon 9800Pro my self.
[02:33] <asaee> :)
[02:33] <robotic> Amaranth: ah OK
[02:33] <Comrade_Nikita> bald money!
[02:33] <ubuntu> ok can u tell me is nvu like dreamweaver at all
[02:33] <ompaul> !info kubuntu-desktop breezy
[02:33] <Kleggas> ubuntu: no
[02:33] <ubotu> kubuntu-desktop: (Kubuntu desktop system), section misc, is optional. Version: 0.55 (breezy), Packaged size: 8 kB, Installed size: 36 kB
[02:33] <cartesian1984> nofear, I have an X300
[02:34] <nofear> ok, a step up from mine..
[02:34] <ompaul> asaee, check your spelling
[02:34] <ubuntu> im moving to linux to test php and mysql efficiently apache is a bit naff on the windows os
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, nvu.com, evaluate that for yourself.
[02:34] <wb_> Are there samba 3.0.21 builds for ubuntu or can I use the debian ones from samba.org?
[02:34] <asaee> ompaul, what ?
[02:34] <asaee> what do u meen ?
[02:35] <_-AnTHo-_> hey, anyone have a few seconds to help me with something?
[02:35] <twan> gtk 2.0 is that a package that is there but not installed?
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> wb_, Why do you need that version?
[02:35] <twan> !ubotu tell twan about gtk
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> _-AnTHo-_, Ask what it is, and you'll find out.
[02:35] <ompaul> asaee, please check the spelling of the command it should work >>sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop<<
[02:35] <wb_> tonyyarusso, want to have latest stable
[02:36] <asaee> # sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop -------------------- E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[02:36] <_-AnTHo-_> Can someone tell me how to change Ubuntu's panel Menus (Applications, Places, System) to only Icons, and possibly how to make the panel transparent aswell?
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> wb_, What's wrong with 3.0.14?
[02:36] <asaee> i copy paste :)
[02:36] <tonyyarusso> asaee, pastebin your sources.list
[02:37] <asaee> ok
[02:37] <Delvien> Anyone know that app that you can make certain windows and apps transparent??
[02:37] <wb_> tonyyarusso, nothing in paticular, just wanted to upgrade if available
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> wb_, Ah.
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> _-AnTHo-_, Transparency is right-click the panel, Properties > Background.
[02:38] <Kleggas> wb_: you can install all .deb's. but be aware that if a deb is built towards debian unstable you might have to upload alot of packages. just did that for kopete-0.11.5 fpr debian, had to hunt packages on packages.debian.net for hours to update 50% of my system just to use
[02:38] <ompaul> asaee, put your CD in the drive please
[02:38] <ubuntu> argh my screen has messed up lol the top is at the bottom and the bottom half is at the top
[02:38] <miguel> hola
[02:38] <Kleggas> wb_: sorry, ment download, not upload
[02:38] <miguel> a todos
[02:38] <ubuntu> lol this is quite odd
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> !es
[02:38] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[02:38] <|Bou|> hola miguel bona nit
[02:38] <Zugot> i just picked up a pentium d 820 setup... hopefully this will be way faster than my p4 2.4
[02:38] <wb_> kleggas, I see, thanks for information
[02:38] <|Bou|> :)
[02:38] <|Bou|> g'night
[02:38] <Zugot> can't wait to put ubuntu on it
[02:39] <asaee> url of pastebin ?
[02:39] <Amaranth> !pastebin
[02:39] <_-AnTHo-_> right but it only makes the middle transparent not the clock or the other 3 menu options, and how about the changing of the text to icons, similar to KDE
[02:39] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:39] <moea> err, i removed firefox, and im trying to re-install it, and synaptic is asking me to insert the breezy cd (which i dont have)
[02:39] <tonyyarusso> asaee, It's also in the topic.
[02:40] <Dattas> Hey guys i was wondering if there is a command to see if the x server is running
[02:40] <MickMcMack> moea, changed your sources to read from a url, not the cd?
[02:40] <MickMcMack> Dattas, ps -A | grep xserversname
[02:40] <MickMcMack> Maybe?
[02:40] <asaee> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7465
[02:40] <asaee> topic: installing kde
[02:40] <asaee> :)
[02:41] <moea> MickMcMack: i see there is a CD line at the top of sources.list, i am confused because apt-get never asked me  to insert the CD for any other packages
[02:41] <ubuntu> ok fellas thanks for the help c u again some time
[02:41] <Kleggas> moea: edit /etc/apt/sources.list and comment the first line, then uncomment all url's and do a apt-get update
[02:41] <Dattas> ok now another question, how to do you start the x server?
[02:41] <moea> none of the urls are commented
[02:41] <dylan_> how do i connect to my windows machines or other computers on the network?
[02:41] <moea> but it's fixed, anyway
[02:42] <Kleggas> dylan_: samba
[02:42] <dylan_> Kleggas, i have it installed
[02:42] <tatters> whats a golden padlock mean someone else like root own it?
[02:42] <Delvien> pretty much
[02:42] <Delvien> right click the file
[02:42] <twan> libglade-2.0
[02:42] <twan> where is that
[02:43] <Delvien> go under permissions and make sure WRITE all 3 boxes are clicked
[02:43] <Kleggas> dylan_: /etc/samba/smb.conf is a nice place to look for options. then there is a network icon in "Places/Network Servers" menu. or just open up filemanager (nautilus) and type smb:/
[02:44] <tatters> and what a red  X mean on a file?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Try kubuntu-desktop_0.63?
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> tatters, You don't have permission to view it.
[02:44] <tatters> I thought that what the padlock was for?
[02:44] <jbzz> dylan_:  You are trying to connect to a share on a Windows machine?  Or are you trying to connect your Windows machine to a share on your Ubuntu machine?
[02:44] <asaee> tonyyarusso, what ?
[02:45] <Dgurion> Umm, I have a question does the standard 386 kernel that gets installed support more than 1gb of ram or would I have to update to the 686 kernel?
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> tatters, Delvien: I think the padlock might be you have read-only permission, red X none?
[02:45] <Delvien> tonyyarusso aye
[02:45] <cr1mson> Where is a good place to store applications?
[02:45] <asaee> hello there, i have ubuntu 5.10 amd 64. how can i install kde on it ? the sources.list is on : http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7465
[02:45] <cr1mson> Like where is Firefox stored?
[02:45] <Kleggas> Dgurion: think its up to 2Gb. for more than that you will have to recompile kernel from source
[02:45] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Try specifying a version with your command.  I'm just guessing from browsing your mirrors pool.  The other thing you can do is apt-cache search kubuntu, and tell us what comes up.
[02:45] <dylan_> jbzz, i want my other computers to simply show up in the NEtwork Servers thing
[02:45] <tatters> so what it mean when I have a red X and padlock on same file?
[02:46] <senectus> in gentoo the startup stuff is manage by rc-update how is this done in Ubuntu?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> cr1mson, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox
[02:46] <tatters> lol its confusing this sudo mlarky
[02:46] <Dgurion> Kleggas: well, thats good since my laptop only supports upto 2gb... heh
[02:46] <cr1mson> tonyyarusso, thanks :)
[02:46] <asaee> "apt-cache search kubuntu" doesn't return anything
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> asaee, apt-get update, then try again.
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Wait, never mind.
[02:47] <asaee> then .. what dhoud i do ?
[02:47] <Kleggas> asaee: first uncomment all url's in /etc/apt/sources.list and then run "sudo apt-get update"
[02:47] <joel1198> someone knows how to install the GNU Compiler Collection on Ubuntu????
[02:47] <asaee> ok ...
[02:47] <Kyral> joel1198: sudo apt-get install build-essiential
[02:47] <Kyral> but spell it right...
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> asaee, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list, then uncomment the line under ## Uncomment the following two lines to fetch updated software from the network
[02:47] <Shadyman> Hey, i've got a laptop and the sounds sounds crackly and almost 8-bittish
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> I can't believe I looked at that file and didn't even notice that...
[02:48] <Shadyman> Need to change the sound driver?
[02:48] <senectus> in gentoo the startup stuff is manage by rc-update how is this done in Ubuntu?
[02:48] <Dattas> how do i start up x server so i can install mythtv?
[02:48] <Kyral> sysv I think...
[02:48] <asaee> all that start with deb ... ?
[02:48] <Amaranth> senectus: update-rc.d
[02:48] <tatters> mmagic senetus
[02:48] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Yes.
[02:49] <tatters> welll tis for me :P
[02:49] <Kleggas> Dattas: xserver should start at boot? or did you install the server-version of ubuntu?
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> asaee, And on the one with universe, add multiverse on the end.
[02:49] <Dattas> i installed normally but then changed the runlevel to 2 so it wouldn't take up so much ram
[02:49] <asaee> ok
[02:49] <tatters> I find I can ubuntu is 1 hour after enabling multiverse
[02:50] <Dattas> and changing it back to 5 doesn't start it the way mythtv wants it i guess
[02:50] <tatters> kill ubbuntu ^^^^
[02:50] <adub> what is a quick way to find out what host are up on your subnet in linux nmap does the trick takes too long ettercap scan for host does the trick but i dont want to always use ettercap just wondering if there is a base linux command for this
[02:50] <Dattas> and it doesn't start up like it used to
[02:50] <asaee> like so: deb http://ro.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse ?
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> tatters, You can ubuntu is?
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> tatters, Oh.  How so?
[02:51] <Amaranth> asaee: yes
[02:51] <tatters> yup I musta reinstallled this ubuntu 4 times cus of that
[02:51] <amonkey> does the / of a linux install have to be /? can it be in /linux/blah?
[02:51] <tatters> stuff deleating packages and replacing
[02:52] <Kleggas> Dattas: startx
[02:52] <Amaranth> amonkey: it has to be /
[02:52] <tatters> seems to break it unless u know what u doin
[02:52] <tonyyarusso> amonkey, Why would you want something else?
[02:52] <asaee> wow .. now is downloading ...
[02:52] <asaee> lots of packeges :)
[02:52] <ChefMedeski> hola
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> tatters, Never had a problem with multiverse myself, a little surprised.
[02:53] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Yeah.  uni/multi are way fun on dialup.
[02:53] <Kleggas> tatters: well, why do you delete something you have no idea what it is?
[02:53] <amonkey> tonyyarusso, i'm installing it to a usb key, and i don't want all the boot, etc, etc... stuff to be there when i plug it in on a windows computer. just a folder called linux
[02:53] <asaee> and when it finishes i do: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop for kde ?
[02:53] <tatters> because I wnated to insstall the application :/
[02:53] <Dattas> :\ start x seems to start xserver but mythtv doesn't realize it
[02:54] <|Bou|> good night guys, I'm off to bed
[02:54] <tatters> I only used windows XP so forgot dll helll
[02:54] <tonyyarusso> asaee, Correct.
[02:54] <nitinshantharam> hey guys im using pure-ftp and i can connect to my server via internal ip (192.168.1.9) but i cant via hostname -> it says conencted but it freezes while getting a directory listing
[02:54] <Kleggas> tatters: what application?
[02:54] <tatters> its kinda been revived for with linux and dependacies
[02:54] <asaee> thank you very much :)
[02:54] <asaee> have a nice day
[02:55] <tatters> well snort mysql acidlab in perticuler
[02:55] <adub> how can i list host in my subnet like all computers and ips in 192.168.1.* range
[02:55] <poningru> !grub
[02:55] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[02:55] <tonyyarusso> asaee, You too.  (btw, to start KDE, logout, and select it from the Sessions menu, and log back in)
[02:55] <tatters> only been usin linux for a cpl of days so its gunna be down to user ignorence im sure
[02:55] <Kleggas> tatters: they are all in apt repositories
[02:55] <asaee> ok, i will
[02:55] <asaee> good bye :)
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> I had installed kubuntu-desktop, but later removed by uninstalling the qt library, which seemed to remove all of the KDE
[02:56] <tonyyarusso> stuff.
[02:57] <tonyyarusso>  However, I noticed when using splash as a boot parameter, it showed the blue Kubuntu splash image, rather than
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> the normal brown Ubuntu one.
[02:57] <tatters> yes klreggas but when I install mysql-snort it replaces stuff with this fork mlarky so its difficult to sort out for noob plus it break apache and mysql  in the process
[02:57] <tonyyarusso> arrgh.
[02:57] <chalcedony> who has a Yahoo Chat client they like on ubuntu? (That also has live support)
[02:57] <nitinshantharam> hey guys im using pure-ftp and i can connect to my server via internal ip (192.168.1.9) but i cant via hostname -> it says conencted but it freezes while getting a directory listing
[02:57] <tonyyarusso>  Where is this setting, and how can I change it?
[02:58] <tatters> theres mysql-snort or snort then mysql-server or mysql then apche 1 or 2 not to php4 or 5
[02:58] <tonyyarusso> chalcedony, I use gaim for all protocols.
[02:58] <tatters> I just get in a circle there is no ubuntu guide II can find so far this
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> Additionally, this raises the question of whether there might be any more KDE stuff left over.  How could I check that, and make sure that it is al actually removed?
[02:59] <tatters> would I be right in saying a debian guide is the closet I am going to get?
[02:59] <Kleggas> tatters: never heard of mysql-snort.... but what you are trying to do, basically, is to install mysql and apache to work together?
[02:59] <chalcedony> tonyyarusso: is there live support for gaim?
[02:59] <tonyyarusso> chalcedony, What is that?
[02:59] <tatters> no run snort using apache mysql and php
[02:59] <tatters> and acidlab
[03:00] <tatters> but becuase its mysql bases there is mysql versions of all
[03:00] <tatters> mysql-snort   mysql-php etc
[03:01] <theeil> anyone know how to change the ubuntu panel icon back to the gnome one?
[03:01] <|Bou|> hmm yeah
[03:01] <tatters> soon as install acid lab it replace stuff and install some fork material then it breaks everything
[03:01] <|Bou|> I think you have to delete the file distributor-logo.png
[03:02] <|Bou|> if I'm not mistaken
[03:02] <|Bou|> better rename it, of course
[03:02] <tatters> obviosuly if i knew linux i could  fix it or if there was a guide
[03:02] <theeil> |Bou|: i will, but where is it?
[03:02] <_jason> theeil: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps/distributor-logo.png
[03:02] <Dattas> is there a way to re-install default packages?
[03:02] <|Bou|> not sure
[03:02] <tatters> I just reinstall
[03:03] <Dattas> don't you lose settings?
[03:03] <tatters> lol done it 3 time already today
[03:03] <|Bou|> think it's in .icons, locolor, 48x48?
[03:03] <senectus> For some reason When I bring my eth0 up I get no ip address even though I've setup a static IP on it :-( any idea's why??
[03:03] <tobehz> Whenever I try to play an audio file from a remote server (SMB share or SFTP link) it fails to load, and I have to copy the file to my computer to play it. Any way around this, or am I not doing something right?
[03:04] <tobehz> :O
[03:04] <tobehz> thecrhis from caf? :>
[03:04] <tobehz> thechris* ;o
[03:05] <tonyyarusso> chalcedony, There is a #gaim channel, if that's what you mean.
[03:05] <tatters> how many times a day do you guys reinstall ubuntu?/
[03:05] <poningru> hey guys I was messing around with the partitions, now grub gives a error 16
[03:05] <Dattas> only once have i ever reinstalled
[03:05] <poningru> did I hose my filesystem?
[03:05] <Kleggas> tatters: none
[03:06] <tatters> how long u been usin it dattas?
[03:06] <Dattas> 1 or 2 years
[03:06] <tuvok302> hey
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> Dattas, sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-base ubuntu-desktop probably, or even ubuntu-*.
[03:06] <tatters> your old linux hands though yeh??
[03:06] <senectus> For some reason When I bring my eth0 up I get no ip address even though I've setup a static IP on it :-( any idea's why??
[03:06] <tatters> how many times when first started?
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> tatters, zero.
[03:06] <|Bou|> here is the distributor logo: /usr/share/icons/hicolor/48x48/apps
[03:07] <tatters> well tony ure either a genius or a coward :P
[03:07] <tonyyarusso> poningru, Probably not, just confused grub.
[03:07] <Xenguy> senectus: you using pppoe?
[03:07] <decaf> senectus: may be some syntax errors at /etc/network/interfaces
[03:07] <senectus> Xenguy, nope it's just on a LAN
[03:07] <poningru> tonyyarusso, know how to get it fixed?
[03:07] <senectus> decaf, It's a carbon copy of the interfaces file on this machine so it *should be* ok
[03:07] <Xenguy> senectus: maybe the LAN is running DHCP ?
[03:08] <poningru> I have live cd
[03:08] <senectus> Xenguy, My LAN, no DHCP
[03:08] <nightwing> topic
[03:08] <poningru> and sysrescue cd
[03:08] <Xenguy> senectus: K
[03:08] <Xenguy> senectus: remember to restart networking etc.
[03:08] <frederic_> Although I installed Aegis, I cannot find it from the Applications>Accessories>(Other?)  -- Can someone help me ?
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> tatters, When first started (August), I think I did a grand total before of a half dozen installs before this point.  First one, one because I decided I liked it, so I stole a bunch of disk space from Windows and did it again, once because I had cluttered things and wanted it fresh for Breezy, and two or three because I broke things.  I think I'm good now though.
[03:09] <senectus> Xenguy, by ifconfig eth0 down then back up ?
[03:09] <Kleggas> frederic_: gnome-panel has to been restarted. killall gnome-panel
[03:09] <decaf> senectus: you are using 'ifup', not ifconfig.
[03:09] <Kleggas> frederic_: that will restart it automagically
[03:09] <tatters> k, thnx for that I begging to think im stooopid
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> poningru, I'd check out !grub, and use the instructions for recovering it after windows install.  Should do the trick I think.
[03:09] <poningru> tonyyarusso hmm ok
[03:09] <Xenguy> senectus: that should help, or sometimes /etc/init.d/networking stop/start is helpful
[03:10] <lightdifference> hi, I've installed ubuntu and xammp on my inspiron, and I was wondering how I would access it from my G5.
[03:10] <poningru> !grub
[03:10] <ubotu> http://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows or troubleshooting grub: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.html#Troubleshooting
[03:10] <lightdifference> It's on the same network, but it just can't find it.
[03:10] <adub> is there a linux command line command to list host on a network
[03:10] <tatters> has ubuntu got like a sys restore function,what best way to backup in case of my destrying  it again
[03:11] <ghost_03> lightdifference--for file sharing?  do you have a samba mount?  or for terminal access?
[03:11] <senectus> Xenguy, that got it.. thanks heaps
[03:11] <Kleggas> tatters: best way of restoring any os is to make a ghost image of it
[03:11] <Xenguy> senectus: yw
[03:11] <frederic_> done killall gnome-panel : it disappeared and reappeared but still no Aegis ...
[03:11] <lightdifference> ghost_03: web/terminal access.
[03:12] <tatters> yes ghost is good I use and like that ,,so it runs with linux or do I need a different version?
[03:13] <lightdifference> I'm not sure why my G5 can't see it...
[03:13] <Kleggas> tatters: which ghost you talk about? norton? and a ghost images makes a copy of whatever is on the disk, shouldn't care about OS
[03:13] <ChefMedeski> hey guys, i need some help setting up a server; does anyone have any articles or reading on Ubuntu, need a good bed-time story
[03:13] <tatters> norton ghost 2003
[03:13] <unkn0wn2u> there is g4l
[03:13] <ChefMedeski> i'm a newb and need to know how to start setting up a server from the begginning
[03:13] <tatters> right gotcha thnx
[03:13] <ghost_03> you can't access it with ssh?
[03:14] <lightdifference> no.
[03:14] <Kleggas> tatters: np. you could also check out the dd command in linux ;)
[03:14] <lightdifference> it can't find it at all.
[03:14] <tatters> lol i can just rip this drive out stick in my usb 2.0 caddy then ghost it from windows?
[03:15] <frazmanw> I am installing Dapper on my "test" machine, however eth0 is not there, I read someting about firewire causing this issue, but lost the page, anyone know the answer
[03:15] <tatters> then use  ghost  cd to restore
[03:15] <ChefMedeski> So, anyone can help me with setting up aserver, any reading?
[03:15] <ghost_03> did u enable ssh in osx system preferences->sharing+firewall
[03:15] <Xenguy> ChefMedeski: haven't got the exact URL, but debian-administration.org is god
[03:16] <navarone> tatters you can google g4l, ghost for linux like unknown said. You can boot from it and image a drive or partition onto another drive/partition. I believe it is on sourceforge
[03:16] <ghost_03> and firestarter or w/e you might be using with ubuntu?
[03:16] <tatters> nvr used ext bfr so nott sure what can or not see or use iit
[03:16] <unkn0wn2u> ChefMedeski, what kind of server?
[03:16] <ChefMedeski> ubuntu for web hosting, and ftp
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> tatters, You don't need Windows to back up Ubuntu.
[03:16] <ChefMedeski> thanks xenguy
[03:16] <ChefMedeski> i'll check it out
[03:16] <lightdifference> I don't think there's any issues there, It has to do with some firewall on ubuntu.
[03:16] <Xenguy> ChefMedeski: some interesting stuff in there; applies to both debian and ubu; search around a bit for the good stuff :-)
[03:17] <_jason> lightdifference: there should be no iptables rules on a default install.  Try 'iptables -L'
[03:17] <tatters> np but if ghost gunna image this drive from windows by using my external  IDE usb 2.0 hard drive then alls good
[03:17] <navarone> tatters whatever works <s>
[03:18] <tatters> lol yup
[03:18] <tatters> thats all I care about basically
[03:18] <hunkyspunky2> hello
[03:18] <tatters> and getting it done Quick
[03:18] <ChefMedeski> i can't quite ifnd it xen
[03:18] <hunkyspunky2> i just installed ubuntu..
[03:18] <Kleggas> tatters: use whatever you feel works. as you said before, you are new to linux, so use windows for ghosting if you allready know how
[03:18] <ChefMedeski> searched google
[03:18] <lightdifference> _jason: it spat out something about Input, Forward, and Output
[03:18] <hunkyspunky2> and now i got windows 98 se.. and ubuntu both installed
[03:19] <lance_> tatters, you could always dd the drive and compress it.
[03:19] <senectus> If I reboot or drop a remote interface in a remote session (say ssh) in Gnome Terminal the Gnome terninal session locks up and I can only fix that by shutting Gnome Terminal down.. is there a better way to close that sessions without having to shutdown gnome terminal??
[03:19] <navarone> good for you hunky
[03:19] <tatters> yup klegg didnt realise it would ghost ext partition as well thought it might require another downlaod
[03:19] <hunkyspunky2> van anyone tell me how to have grub loader setup to by default in 10 seconds to load windows 98.. instaed of ubuntu?
[03:19] <ghost_03> lightdifference, are you running firestarter?
[03:19] <tonyyarusso> tatters, If you want, that's fine.  But I just wanted to point out that when people said to create a ghost image, they didn't mean Norton Ghost, just a copy of any kind.
[03:19] <ChefMedeski> 9yy found it
[03:19] <hunkyspunky2> van=can
[03:19] <ChefMedeski> ohh found it
[03:19] <ChefMedeski> debian-administration.com
[03:19] <_jason> lightdifference: if there were no actual relows under those, it isn't the firewall
[03:19] <_jason> lightdifference: s/relows/rules
[03:20] <lightdifference> hmmm...
[03:20] <cafuego> Yay, sexy. yaboot now boots firewire :-)
[03:20] <lightdifference> odd.
[03:20] <tatters> sry when I read ghost Image I automatically think of norton
[03:20] <lightdifference> ghost_03: firewall? I don't believe so.
[03:20] <cafuego> tatters: There' talking about destroying data, so it seems appropriate ;-)
[03:20] <tatters> i guess its a generic term then?
[03:21] <senectus> If I reboot or drop a remote interface in a remote session (say ssh) in Gnome Terminal the Gnome terninal session locks up and I can only fix that by shutting Gnome Terminal down.. is there a better way to close that sessions without having to shutdown gnome terminal??
[03:21] <tatters> lol well I find it excellent actually rest of norton stuff iis pretty useless though
[03:21] <jtd> hi guys
[03:21] <lightdifference> _jason: what else could be doing it?
[03:21] <jtd> anyone had any success getting X to work on an iMac G3?  a graphite, specifically?
[03:21] <navarone> tatters things went downhill for Nortons when Peter Norton stopped appearing on the boxes...<s>
[03:21] <jtd> mine starts X but then just sits there on a blank black screen after changing video modes.
[03:22] <hunkyspunky2> i love ubuntu... way better then windows!
[03:22] <Xenguy> senectus: not quite sure what you mean (screen can be handy, but may not be relevant to your specific issue)
[03:22] <Kleggas> navarone: lol, thats why they suck? ;)
[03:22] <tatters> yup like all good software they lose their roots when money kicks in
[03:22] <tatters> same with zonealarm
[03:23] <tobehz> Whenever I try to play an audio file from a remote server (SMB share or SFTP link) it fails to load, and I have to copy the file to my computer to play it. Any way around this, or am I not doing something right?
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> navarone...
[03:23] <navarone> Kleggas I think it means that "corporate attentions" were focused elsewhere
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> whats going on buddy?
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> remeber me..
[03:23] <_jason> lightdifference: I don't use xampp, are you sure there isn't some setting you have to change?
[03:23] <navarone> hunkyspunky2,  nope
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> about asking to install grun manually?
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> grun=grub
[03:23] <lightdifference> _jason: I don't believe so.
[03:23] <renewip> I think Ubuntu graphic is not very good
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> and u reccomended a resinstall?
[03:23] <renewip> it's always crash
[03:23] <navarone> ok
[03:23] <_jason> lightdifference: can you access it as the localhost?
[03:23] <lightdifference> yeah, just fine.
[03:23] <hunkyspunky2> well i reinstalled... and it works perfect
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> except it took 2 hours to complete finsh the install
[03:24] <navarone> hunkyspunky2,  power outage right?
[03:24] <joseph> what package do I need for a C compiler?
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> yah
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> that was it
[03:24] <Shadyman> joseph: Build-essential
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> i had a power outage first time
[03:24] <joseph> thanks
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> lol
[03:24] <Kleggas> renewip: xorg crashes?
[03:24] <lightdifference> I can't access it via ssh either.
[03:24] <renewip> Yeah
[03:24] <hunkyspunky2> but, i was able to install it this time with no problems
[03:24] <navarone> hunkyspunky2, yeah best to do fresh install in that case...no data to lose or anything
[03:24] <lightdifference> I have no clue why this isn't flipping working..
[03:24] <renewip> Xorg crash when I use KDE
[03:25] <hunkyspunky2> its all installed
[03:25] <lightdifference> it's pissing me off.
[03:25] <tatters> I have experianced 30-40 seroius errors on this box and Ubuntu, I put it down to windows is more forgiving in terms of older hardware and configuration
[03:25] <hunkyspunky2> a frsh copy is installed now
[03:25] <Kleggas> renewip: how? pebkac?
[03:25] <Kleggas> :p
[03:25] <benkong2> i have an amd64 with 32bit firefox1.5 installed and working flash works but java-plugin is missing? is there a doc somewhere on what to do to fix this?
[03:25] <hunkyspunky2> navarone.. i got another question....
[03:25] <renewip> sometime when I play video
[03:25] <tatters> it tokk me 4 installs bfr I actually realised 3 of them had gone wrong
[03:25] <renewip> it's suddendly
[03:25] <Kleggas> xorg is stable. in ubuntu too. no crashes or glitches ever for me. what do u do to it?
[03:25] <hunkyspunky2> now when i boot up.. grub boots up with default ubuntu starting up in 10 secs... is there anyway for me to change it to default to windows 98 se in 10 secs?
[03:25] <benkong2> this is the current link for java  "libjavaplugin.so -> /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so"
[03:26] <_jason> lightdifference: how did you install ssh?
[03:26] <lightdifference> _jason: ubuntu comes with it, I believe.
[03:26] <_jason> lightdifference: not the server
[03:26] <navarone> hunky I dunno offhand...but I am always at my desk when I boot and select myself
[03:26] <renewip> I installed Ubuntu 5.10 and upgrade to KDE 3.50
[03:26] <jtd> is www.ubuntuforums.org working for anyone else?
[03:26] <Shadyman> jtd: No.
[03:26] <jtd> because it sure ain't for me.
[03:26] <_jason> lightdifference: ubuntu runs no services on a default install
[03:26] <jtd> ok.
[03:26] <hunkyspunky2> one last question.. navarone...
[03:26] <lightdifference> _jason: crap.
[03:26] <navarone> jtd read the channel topic
[03:26] <benkong2> hunkyspunky2; edit /boot/grub/menu.lst and change default to what you want started it is 0 based
[03:27] <jtd> can someone help me with my aforementioned Ubuntu-on-G3-iMacDV problem, then?
[03:27] <hunkyspunky2> when a newer version of ubuntu comes out... can i update it from the update manager?
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> I had installed kubuntu-desktop, but later removed by uninstalling the qt library, which seemed to remove all of the KDE stuff.  However, I noticed when using splash as a boot parameter, it showed the blue Kubuntu splash image, rather than the normal brown Ubuntu one.  Where is this setting, and how can I change it?  Additionally, this raises the question of whether there might be any more KDE stuff left over.  How could I check that, and make sure
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> that it is all actually
[03:27] <tonyyarusso>  removed?
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, Yes.
[03:27] <hunkyspunky2> instead of of installing the newer version?
[03:27] <jtd> mine starts X but then just sits there on a blank black screen after changing video modes.
[03:27] <navarone> hunkyspunky2, between distro upgrades you can yes
[03:28] <benkong2> !firefox plugin
[03:28] <Kleggas> renewip: where did you find those 3.5 packages? just wanna see if its same link as mine, or if its newer packages. btw, 3.5 is under heavy development with alot of bugs. thats why it kills your xorg I would guess
[03:28] <ubotu> benkong2: I give up, what is it?
[03:28] <_jason> tonyyarusso: the splash is in /usr/share/pixmaps/splash/ubuntu-splash.png iirc
[03:28] <hunkyspunky2> so when a newer version then 5.10 comes out ... it will update via update manger in ubuntu.. without me running installtion again?
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Thanks.
[03:28] <hunkyspunky2> cool
[03:28] <lightdifference> this is pissing me off....I'm about to enter sudo rm -rf /
[03:28] <hunkyspunky2> thanks
[03:28] <hunkyspunky2> guys
[03:28] <benkong2> !javaplugin firefox
[03:28] <ubotu> Not a clue, benkong2
[03:28] <hunkyspunky2> the only thing that was a pain.. is the time to install it
[03:28] <renewip> can I get Ubuntu source code CDs?
[03:28] <_jason> lightdifference: why? ssh is easy, just do 'sudo apt-get install ssh'
[03:28] <navarone> hunkyspunky2, when dapper comes out in April I will dl and install fresh...but that's just me
[03:28] <renewip> where & how?
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> my processors only an older amd k-16 500mhz
[03:29] <Xenguy> lightdifference: relax and have a beer :-)
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, As long as you select Smart Upgrade.
[03:29] <jtd> disclaimer: I did a server installation and then a sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> also
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> when grub boots up..
[03:29] <lightdifference> Xenguy: I'm 6 years short of beer.
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> there about 3 or 4 different ubuntu boot options..
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> like some recovery and others
[03:29] <hunkyspunky2> what are they?
[03:29] <Xenguy> lightdifference: I'm sure you can find a reasonable facsimile ;-)
[03:30] <hunkyspunky2> i boot up from the one thats at the top the list
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, They aren't different partitions.
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, They have different kernel options.
[03:30] <Kyral> Recovery slams you into Single User Mode
[03:30] <Kyral> Think XP Safe Mode
[03:30] <lightdifference> ssh: consecutor: No address associated with nodename
[03:30] <renewip> hey, can anyone help me, im a absolute newb
[03:30] <hunkyspunky2> okay
[03:30] <hunkyspunky2> i see
[03:30] <_jason> lightdifference: what gave you that?
[03:30] <hunkyspunky2> i only got 2 parttions on my drive
[03:30] <lightdifference> _jason: my mac.
[03:30] <hunkyspunky2> one ubuntu and the other windows 98 se
[03:30] <navarone> hunkyspunky2,  recovery is a stripped down kernel for recovery of filesystems...kinda like safe-mode...then there's mem test and any other kernels you may have installed ie 386, 686, k7
[03:30] <Kleggas> renewip: don't think there is a source-code cd for ubuntu
[03:31] <renewip> oops..
[03:31] <hunkyspunky2> cool
[03:31] <yud> Can anybody help me w/ the instalation of the ati driver in ubuntu? I already tryed the wiki.
[03:31] <renewip> so, what about full package CDs?
[03:31] <_jason> lightdifference: after installing ssh?
[03:31] <lightdifference> _jason: yeh.
[03:31] <hunkyspunky2> i'm just a newbie at this operating system... i'll learn it... and as i get familar with it i will remove windows
[03:31] <renewip> include all packages
[03:31] <Kleggas> renewip: but if you want source for any package in repository just run: sudo apt-get source <pkgname>
[03:32] <dabfus> hello
[03:32] <_jason> lightdifference: is ssh running on the ubuntu machine?
[03:32] <hunkyspunky2> later
[03:32] <hunkyspunky2> guys good night
[03:32] <lightdifference> _jason: should be.
[03:32] <Kleggas> renewip: there is a ubuntu-dvd I think. should have alot of more packages
[03:32] <_jason> lightdifference: ps aux | grep sshd
[03:32] <navarone> dabfus just jump in witha  question
[03:32] <Kleggas> renewip: where did you download kde-3.5?
[03:32] <renewip> because my comp not connected everytime
[03:32] <lightdifference> _jason: it's running.
[03:32] <dabfus> I use mplayerplug-in for firefox, but if i try to play a video in full screen mode, the video is still in "little format". How can i do to see it really full screen ?
[03:33] <renewip> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[03:33] <hunkyspunky2> is kubuntu any better then ubuntu?
[03:33] <_jason> hunkyspunky2: only if you prefer kde over gnome
[03:33] <Shadyman> hunkyspunky2: Debatable.
[03:34] <renewip> i dont know kubuntu better or worse than ubuntu
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> is kde any better then gnome?
[03:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> !start a desktopwar
[03:34] <ubotu> I don't know, CanYouHelpMePlz
[03:34] <Shadyman> hunkyspunky2: Debatable
[03:34] <Nameeater> its all a matter of personal preference
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, Depends what you like.
[03:34] <Kleggas> omfg, and I have spent all evening upgrading like 40 packages to debian unstable versions to run my kde3.5 debian I found, LOL
[03:34] <tonyyarusso> hunkyspunky2, I prefer Gnome.
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> oh.. so its the way it looks?
[03:34] <Shadyman> hunkyspunky2: Pretty much.
[03:34] <renewip> but I think KDE is more userfriendly than
[03:34] <dabfus> I try to modify the multimedia selector to use a XV output, but it doesnt change anything
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> okay
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> i see
[03:34] <Shadyman> renewip: I don't like KDE because it crashes all the time for me.
[03:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> renewip: i disagree.
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> thanks guys for all your help
[03:34] <Kleggas> renewip: kubuntu is ubuntu, but only kde instead of gnome. same packages, same repository
[03:34] <hunkyspunky2> good luck
[03:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> i dislike kde brutally.
[03:35] <renewip> ah, i see
[03:35] <arrinmurr> kde is great ;)
[03:35] <renewip> I mean KDE
[03:35] <Kleggas> renewip: and your xorg is crashing because you use kde-3.5. its under heavily development. kde-3.4 is latest stable
[03:35] <tonyyarusso> I couldn't even figure out how to do stuff in KDE.  Gnome was pretty self-explanatory.
[03:36] <Xenguy> gnome and xfce are my current preference
[03:37] <Kleggas> kde do have alot more options and is badly designed for beginners. but I dont like/dislike any of them. I use gnome nowadays but have used kde too. use kopete in gnome for messaging
[03:37] <Kleggas> specially now when kde-3.5's msn protocol has webcam support (not tried it out yet)
[03:37] <npfet> Kleggas: Why kopete vs. gaim? (just curious.. haven't used kopete for about a year)
[03:37] <Kleggas> kopet
[03:37] <npfet> ah
[03:37] <EvenOdd> I'm having a bit of trouble setting up my network.  I installed the base system, and then compiled my nic drivers as a module and have it loaded (this works in all other linux distros no problem).  I can't get an ip through dhcp, thuogh.
[03:37] <jtd> can someone tell me what "xauth: error in locking authority file /home/user/.Xauthority" means?
[03:37] <arrinmurr> i've never understood what's so difficult in kde. i think it just makes sense :)
[03:38] <Kleggas> npfet: allways liked kopete better. no idea why
[03:38] <tonyyarusso> KDE also seemed to fluffy "I look pretty, so I must be good" for me, like the WinXP theme.
[03:38] <EvenOdd> I would look up the answer in the forums but they're down the day I switch to ubuntu :] 
[03:38] <tatters> jtd try sudo bfr that command
[03:38] <markybob> anyone know when www.ubuntuforums.org will be back online?
[03:38] <Shadyman> The forums must be running on windows ;)
[03:38] <_jason> markybob: /topic
[03:38] <renewip> I installed my Ubuntu in expert mode
[03:38] <nvez> anyone got opera+mplayer working?
[03:38] <Kleggas> arrinmurr: I agree, but beginners don't
[03:39] <renewip> so, I installed some newer packages instead default
[03:39] <jtd> sorry, what?
[03:39] <jtd> sudo bfr?
[03:39] <renewip> and now, I cant install open office
[03:39] <renewip> :(
[03:39] <ssstormy> EvenOdd, to do it from command line use dhclient <interface>
[03:39] <jtd> what is bfr?
[03:39] <EvenOdd> dhclient... I'll try that instead of dhcpcd
[03:39] <npfet> renewip: error messages?
[03:39] <tatters> whatever it was u was running that looks like a permission error to me
[03:40] <jtd> startx.
[03:40] <jtd> that's all.
[03:40] <navarone> bfr=before maybe?
[03:40] <arrinmurr> Kleggas: well, not those beginners i've introduced kde to
[03:40] <jtd> why would I have a permission error with my own homedir?
[03:40] <metalsand> Does anyone have the default kismet.conf?
[03:40] <Kleggas> renewip: why install in expert mode? thats what I used to do in slack, but in ubuntu? default mode gives you all you need, not more, not less
[03:40] <jtd> ah.  that would be why.
[03:40] <Xenguy> arrinmurr: I think that some folks prefer 'minimalism' too -- I know that I'm like that, always have been
[03:40] <jtd> because it belongs to root.
[03:40] <metalsand> I'm trying to configure packet sources but the config file for the default install is block
[03:40] <jtd> why the hell does teh xubuntu package do that?
[03:41] <renewip> could not mark all pkgs for installation or upgrade
[03:41] <npfet> Xenguy: agreed... minimalism good (And i ran kde for a while.. and used to use pwm + lots of xterms...)
[03:41] <PTK> bah it died :(
[03:41] <EvenOdd> ssstormy: I got "no dhcpoffers received. no working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[03:41] <navarone> Personally I think the choice of kde or gnome comes down to aesthethics. Some like kde's glossy/modern flash and others prefer gnome's sedate and tidy desktop...at least I do
[03:41] <renewip> openoffice.org2: Depends: ooo2-core, ooo2-writer, etc..
[03:41] <arrinmurr> Xenguy: luckily there's something for everyone :)
[03:41] <npfet> navarone: yah..
[03:41] <Xenguy> arrinmurr: exactly :-)
[03:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> what about XFCE anyone like that?
[03:42] <renewip> when I mark ooo2-core or more, the same error
[03:42] <npfet> CanYouHelpMePlz: used to use it... but now i have a faster machine 8)
[03:42] <npfet> CanYouHelpMePlz: I even use OO now 8)
[03:42] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: I quite like it -- especially on older hardware
[03:42] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: xfce4 is light, yet quite functional
[03:43] <EvenOdd> Yeah, I love xfce for its simplicity.  I don't need a 1000 apps installed
[03:43] <navarone> xfce I have installed but rarely use...fast though...but maybe a bit daunting for new users who expect everything to be placed on menus for them
[03:43] <ssstormy> EvenOdd, well that means your interface is working
[03:43] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: yea i was thinking of using it on my 1000mhz celeron
[03:43] <renewip> Kleggas, could you ssh to my comp and fix it for me?
[03:43] <ssstormy> EvenOdd, did you do ifconfig <interface> up ?
[03:43] <npfet> arrinmurr: I also have never been able to get the fonts to look as good as they do in gnome (to my eyes at least... though I think it has more to do with spacing then fonts themselves)
[03:43] <navarone> I like the xfce mouse...<S>
[03:43] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: it's worth a look, certainly
[03:43] <EvenOdd> ssstormy: Yep, it's up
[03:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: you think xfce would be a big speed improvement over gnome for a 1000mhz celeron?
[03:44] <Xenguy> navarone: heh, yeah, he reminds me for some reason of the dormouse in Alice in Wonderland (might just be me tho :-)
[03:44] <EvenOdd> And I have iface eth0 inet dhcp set in /etc/network/interfaces
[03:44] <ssstormy> EvenOdd, if you wanna check if it's working right, you could have anohter computer sniff the trafic
[03:44] <nvez> hey guys, how can you add plugins to opera?
[03:44] <arrinmurr> npfet: heh. it's exactly the other way round for me :)
[03:44] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: dunno for sure in your case, but I do know that xfce is noticably faster than gnome on older hardware
[03:45] <EvenOdd> ssstormy: Hmm, yeah.  Just weird since I haven't had a problem with dhcp on windows, debian, gentoo, slackware, etc. the past month.
[03:45] <jtd> it's not like using xfce restricts your capabilities.  it just installs less by default.
[03:45] <npfet> arrinmurr: heh.  Must be right side vs left side of brain dominant or something 8)
[03:45] <EvenOdd> ssstormy: on the same computer
[03:45] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: hmm the pc does have 512 ram, so it might not be a huge improvement
[03:45] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: try it, that's the only way to judge for your hardware
[03:46] <EvenOdd> ssstormy: hmmm wtf.  it has "inet6 addr: blah blah blah" under ifconfig display
[03:46] <navarone> xfce automatically defaulted to higher resolution thatn I use in gnome as well.
[03:46] <jtd> holy crap, this SMB browser that comes with xfce is AWESOME
[03:46] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: xfce loads faster (by about half), and things feel 'snappier'
[03:46] <brasko> Hi all!
[03:46] <brasko> I'd like to setup a CVS server, which I can invoke from the internet via ssh and CVS_RSH=ssh.
[03:46] <ssstormy> EvenOdd, that's not unusual
[03:46] <brasko> Do you know if cvsd is the correct package to install?
[03:46] <deditri> ubuntu cool!
[03:47] <annie> hi, I've just installed ubuntu on my laptop
[03:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Xenguy: how do i access the gnome configurator, or whatever it's called
[03:47] <deditri> thank you ubuntu
[03:47] <ssstormy> annie, good for you
[03:47] <deditri> I've just finished install too
[03:47] <annie> but I'm having some troubles getting my wireless card to work
[03:47] <ssstormy> annie, you haveing issues
[03:47] <ssstormy> yes I see
[03:47] <Xenguy> CanYouHelpMePlz: gnome-control-center  ?
[03:47] <ssstormy> what's the card?
[03:48] <annie> I googled the problem and found a solution
[03:48] <Kleggas> CanYouHelpMePlz: Applications/System Tools/Configuration Editor
[03:48] <tonyyarusso> annie, All right, so where did you run into trouble with it?  (Or do you need help understanding the solution?)
[03:48] <annie> I apparently need to install the ndiswrapper
[03:49] <annie> but it needs access to the kernel source
[03:49] <ssstormy> annie, I don't think you do
[03:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Kleggas: thanks
[03:49] <ssstormy> annie, my card used ndiswrapper too
[03:49] <dabfus> thanks
[03:49] <dabfus> bye
[03:49] <whatwhat> ermmmmmmm ... i sorry but i open the firefox and i apears to me somehting that says if i want to configure the firefox only to my user (something like that) so i click yes and ... my bookmarks complectly disapear ... :x o0 0o someone know where they go ? lol
[03:49] <ssstormy> but you can try installing everything labled ndiswrapper
[03:49] <ssstormy> using synaptic
[03:50] <ssstormy> make sure to enable the universe and multiverse repositries
[03:50] <Kleggas> annie: sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper-modules-1.1 ndiswrapper-utils
[03:50] <annie> okay, thanks
[03:50] <ssstormy> also, what oyu say about needing kernel source stuff
[03:50] <jtd> how do I kill the X environment after it starts?
[03:50] <ssstormy> you can probably satisfy that need
[03:50] <graham> Are there any good dvd ripping programs for ubuntu?
[03:50] <ssstormy> by installing the kernel headers for your kernel version
[03:50] <ssstormy> again with synaptic
[03:50] <graham> I am also looking for an image library manager similar to "picasa" for windows.
[03:50] <lightdifference> has anyone else had this problem with accessing ubuntu from OS X?
[03:50] <Xenguy> jtd: why - what do you want?
[03:50] <navarone> and , annie, rememebr...the sun will come out tomorrow...<s> Couldn't resist
[03:50] <tonyyarusso> jtd: sudo killall Xorg or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[03:51] <Kleggas> renewip: did you see my private msg to you?
[03:51] <renewip> Kleggas: yes
[03:51] <ssstormy> jtd you can also do telinit 3
[03:51] <annie> lol, navarone, I'll keep that in mind
[03:51] <yud> anybody w/ a Radeon 9800 pro installed at the unbutu?
[03:51] <Eleaf> hi
[03:51] <navarone> graham is picasa like acdsee?
[03:52] <ssstormy> jtd, if you use telinit 3 then you can do telinit 4 if you want to bring back the X enviroment
[03:52] <ssstormy> yud, I intend to have one of those installed soon...
[03:52] <graham> navarone: no its not really an image viewer, its an organizer for your image library
[03:52] <jtd> Xenguy: it's hung.
[03:52] <Kleggas> renewip: ok. if you answered me I didn't see it. maybe because freenode servers blocks privmsg from not registered/identified nicks :)
[03:52] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i uninstall everything related to KDE ?
[03:52] <ssstormy> graham, you want ripping programs? for what? DVD? CD?
[03:52] <navarone> graham...try going to synaptic and browsing the graphics sections.
[03:52] <jtd> stormy: I tried to do sudo apt-get install synaptic from the "Run" item in xfce and it hung.
[03:52] <_jason> CanYouHelpMePlz: apt-get remove libqt3mt
[03:52] <Xenguy> jtd: Ctrl-Alt-Bkspc is the usual first try
[03:53] <ssstormy> jtd, you should already have synaptic installed
[03:53] <graham> ssstormy: i have a good Cd one, but I'm looking for a DVD ripper, similar to DVD Shrink, or DVD Decrypter for win
[03:53] <ssstormy> just run sudo synaptic
[03:53] <yud> ssstormy, it's very hard to install it, I'm trying for hours trying to follow lots of tutorials and wiki and nothing
[03:53] <_jason> CanYouHelpMePlz: libqt3-mt I mean
[03:53] <Kleggas> can-o-wo1ms: libqt3-mt
[03:53] <Xenguy> jtd: or just drop to console with Ctrl-Alt-F2/3/4/5/6
[03:53] <Kleggas> :p
[03:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> _jason: E: Couldn't find package libqt3mt
[03:53] <ssstormy> graham, dvd::rip
[03:53] <graham> navarone: thanks
[03:53] <CanYouHelpMePlz> _jason: ahh o
[03:53] <graham> cool, ill check it out
[03:53] <tonyyarusso> _jason, That doesn't remove everything, in my experience.
[03:53] <ssstormy> graham, it's in the repositries
[03:54] <ssstormy> yud, sorry though.  It's just my goal in graphics cards; my current one is +5 years old
[03:54] <jtd> synaptic doesn't appear to be populated in xfce's menu.
[03:54] <Kleggas> Xenguy: why not just open up a terminal?
[03:54] <ssstormy> jtd, just open a terminal and say sudo synaptic
[03:54] <ssstormy> if that dosn't work
[03:54] <ssstormy> sudo apt-get install synaptic
[03:54] <Xenguy> jtd: right-click/Settings
[03:55] <ssstormy> you need the root privs to use it or install any packages for that matter
[03:55] <Xenguy> Kleggas: ya lost me :-)
[03:55] <jtd> I know, I figured it was the same as any other desktop environment.
[03:55] <Kleggas> Xenguy: Ctrl-Alt-F2/3/4/5/6
[03:55] <Kleggas> Xenguy: why?
[03:55] <Xenguy> Kleggas: his X is frozen (if that is what you mean)
[03:55] <Kleggas> Xenguy: oh, ok :D
[03:56] <Eleaf> I have an old server with dual processors, what is the easiest way to get both processors working?
[03:56] <jtd> Xenguy, sstormy: is there a graphical login program for xubuntu?
[03:56] <Kleggas> might be dificult to open up a terminal in X then ;)
[03:56] <jtd> trying to install gdm installs a lot of GNOME cruft.
[03:56] <Xenguy> jtd: same (gdm)
[03:56] <jtd> hm
[03:56] <jtd> ok
[03:56] <NCLife> how do i use xkill to kill gdesklets?
[03:56] <Xenguy> jtd: there are others I suppose (xdm, kdm)
[03:56] <Kleggas> NCLife: you type it in a terminal
[03:56] <ssstormy> jtd, if you dont' wanna install gdm
[03:56] <CanYouHelpMePlz> NCLife: click on one of the desklets
[03:56] <Red-Sox> what is a good ubuntu-supported wi-fi card?
[03:57] <Red-Sox> umm...
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Can I make apt-get remove with a wildcard, and make it ask me for each package for confirmation?
[03:57] <ssstormy> xdm is the most lightweight
[03:57] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Red-Sox: probably any INTEL one.
[03:57] <lightdifference> uh...can anyone tell me how to start up firestarter?
[03:57] <tonyyarusso> Red-Sox, I have Intel PRO/Wireless 2915 a/b/g, and it's good.
[03:57] <Eleaf> I have an old server with dual processors, what is the easiest way to get both processors working?
[03:57] <borisattva> i'm trying to ./configure network manager on a fresh dapper install and i get no c compiler found in path even though i have gcc installed..
[03:57] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: not sure, but worst case scenario is just prepare your command-line with a good editor :-)
[03:57] <Red-Sox> CanYouHelpMePlz: umm... PC card?
[03:57] <yatesy> Eleaf: using a SMP kernel
[03:57] <Red-Sox> CanYouHelpMePlz: for my lappy?
[03:57] <NCLife> Kleggas, merci
[03:58] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Red-Sox: yes
[03:58] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Uh, what?
[03:58] <Red-Sox> CanYouHelpMePlz: link please?
[03:58] <Eleaf> yatesy, yes, how should I get that?  Do I need internet......?
[03:58] <navarone> NCLife,  alt-f2 anf type "xkill" and click the gdesklet console
[03:58] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: only the buffer knows for sure :-)
[03:58] <navarone> lightdifference, Applications/System/Firestarter
[03:59] <yatesy> Eleaf: use apt and search for an SMP kernel, and yes you'll probably need internet access to download the package
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Whoosh...over the head.
[03:59] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: it's a fast channel, happens to us all
[03:59] <lightdifference> navarone: nothing...there.
[03:59] <Eleaf> yatesy, is there an easy way to know if the second processor is working without a smp kernel?
[03:59] <navarone> lightdifference, is it installed?
[03:59] <lightdifference> navarone: oops.
[03:59] <yatesy> Eleaf: no idea, never had a dual cpu system in my life :)
[03:59] <Eleaf> yatesy, like, just to know if the motherboard see's it
[03:59] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, What does an editor have to do with what I'm doing, and what do you mean by a buffer?
[03:59] <yatesy> Eleaf: BIOS i guess
[03:59] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: plus, I occasionally spout nonsense 8-D
[03:59] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, cat /proc/cpuinfo
[04:00] <Red-Sox> CanYouHelpMePlz: can you please give me a link?
[04:00] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, see if there are two procs there.
[04:00] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, no..
[04:00] <Red-Sox> CanYouHelpMePlz: oh, sorry, I already asked
[04:00] <Red-Sox> :(
[04:00] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: buffer == preceding, up-scrolling text
[04:00] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, no what? :S
[04:00] <Unity> hey is there something like kate or kwrite for gnome? something that has a lot of syntax highlighting and paretheses matching (nat gedit)? and something that uses the X clipboard well?
[04:00] <Eleaf> only one processor MickMcMack = /
[04:00] <MickMcMack> Unity, jEdit.
[04:00] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, you need to update your BIOS then.
[04:00] <Unity> MickMcMack: thx let me take a look
[04:00] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, CPU1 is the _second_ processor, by the way.
[04:00] <Xenguy> Unity: gedit?  glimpse?
[04:00] <tobehz> Whenever I try to play an audio file from a remote server (SMB share or SFTP link) it fails to load, and I have to copy the file to my computer to play it. Any way around this, or am I not doing something right?
[04:01] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, ah, I see.  It complained about a missing bios something whenever I only used the other processor
[04:01] <Kleggas> Unity: gvim has nice highlighting for code
[04:01] <tonyyarusso> Xenguy, Ah right.  (How do I see that anyway?)
[04:01] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, where would it say cpu1?
[04:01] <whatwhat> is secure install java in /usr/java/ ?
[04:01] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, in /proc/cpuinfo
[04:01] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: PgUp, or /lastlog <nick>
[04:01] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Red-Sox: just pick any intel wireless card that meets your network, like G or whatever
[04:01] <graham> ssstormy: I don't see dvd::rip in the repositories, I have added the usual ones as well
[04:01] <lightdifference> navarone: where do I get...firestarter?
[04:01] <ratschnowski> hello, how can i deinstall a package that was installed via cvs ?
[04:02] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, alright, how am I going to find a new bios for this old thing?
[04:02] <jtd> why is there no pretty graphical startup with xubuntu?
[04:02] <Xenguy> tonyyarusso: /lastlog is like a grep for IRC -- useful :-)
[04:02] <jtd> with the "ubuntu" logo and all that?
[04:02] <navarone> lightdifference,  sudo apt-get install firestarter
[04:02] <ratschnowski> lightdifference, apt-get install firestarter
[04:02] <MickMcMack> Eleaf, Google for your motherboard.
[04:02] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, eeek
[04:02] <ratschnowski> lightdifference, with sudo
[04:02] <Eleaf> MickMcMack, is there an easy way to find the motherboard version from the command line?  This thing is a mess... lol
[04:03] <lightdifference> It can't find the package.
[04:03] <Xenguy> jtd: there should be actually
[04:03] <jtd> and why does xdm start but then it doesn't do anything?
[04:03] <Unity> jedit, gvim, and glimpse are all not in the repos?
[04:03] <ratschnowski> lightdifference, apt-get update
[04:03] <ratschnowski> sudo apt-get update
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> graham, dvdrip is in multiverse.
[04:03] <jtd> Xenguy: how did you install it?  I did a server install and then did sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop.
[04:03] <ratschnowski> sudo apt-get search firestarter
[04:03] <Xenguy> jtd: ahh... I use regular gdm; haven't messed with xdm
[04:03] <metalsand> How can I figure out my suiduser?
[04:03] <adub> im trying to register the nessus for the plugins but it is bashing the command they sent in the email
[04:03] <alpha> What would be the best bittorrent app for ubuntu?
[04:03] <Kleggas> Unity: gvim package to install is vim-gnome
[04:04] <lightdifference> ratschnowski: still nothing.
[04:04] <Xenguy> jtd: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop <-- should work fine
[04:04] <navarone> lightdifference, you have to enable universe repo
[04:04] <hyperactivecrond> !info firefox
[04:04] <ubotu> firefox: (lightweight web browser based on Mozilla), section web, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 8268 kB, Installed size: 23932 kB
[04:04] <metalsand> How can I figure out my suiduser?
[04:04] <cafuego> There's not really any advantage to using xdm of gdm. xdm does NOT in fact belong with xfce.
[04:04] <ratschnowski> lightdifference, pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:04] <hyperactivecrond> metalsand: whoami
[04:04] <graham> tonyyarusso, for breezy?
[04:04] <Xenguy> jtd: I did a regular install, then installed xubuntu-desktop as an after-thought
[04:04] <metalsand> hyperactivecrond: Perfect. thanks
[04:04] <cafuego> Eleaf: Try 'read-edid'
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> graham, Yes.
[04:05] <graham> tonyyarusso, I even have backports on and it says not found :/
[04:05] <tonyyarusso> How can I use wildcards with apt-get install / remove?
[04:05] <hyperactivecrond> tonyyarusso: *
[04:05] <Eleaf> cafuego, read-edid ?
[04:06] <Eleaf> oh
[04:06] <Eleaf> I guess I need internet for that..
[04:06] <ratschnowski> lightdifference, what ubuntu version do u use?
[04:06] <lightdifference> ratschnowski: thanks, I had to uncomment the line in the list file.
[04:06] <jtd> ah.
[04:06] <jtd> that would explain it.
[04:06] <ratschnowski> if u are using breezy, take this sources.list: http://pastebin.ca/37936
[04:06] <tonyyarusso> hyperactivecrond, Ah, it was getting confused by a bad option.
[04:07] <Kleggas> so much code, so little time. bye all, need to work
[04:07] <tonyyarusso> Oh, that's why I still have KDE stuff - Kaffeine.  Duh.
[04:07] <navarone> lightdifference, you may be able to enable universe by trying to install firestarter thru Add Applications and not synaptic. System/Admin/Add App/go to System tool section/More programs...and select firestarter. It may prompt you that you need to enable universe and you go okay and it is done
[04:07] <delire> are we well people
[04:07] <delire> ..
[04:07] <delire> good
[04:08] <Red-Sox> delire: :D
[04:08] <navarone> ...lol...just read your entry about uncommenting...all that typing...<sigh>
[04:08] <Eleaf> cafuego, jeez, these things are soo buggy.  It's like a 50% chance if it will go to the bios if I ask it to.  And it takes about 6 or 7 minutes just to get to the bootloader lol
[04:09] <cafuego> Eleaf: Ugh. What brand is it?
[04:09] <tonyyarusso> How can I configure which image (Ubuntu's/Kubuntu's) usplash uses?
[04:09] <Eleaf> cafuego, ibm pc server 325
[04:09] <lightdifference> say, how do i update ubuntu to *.10?
[04:09] <_jason> tonyyarusso: that link didn't work?
[04:09] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: update-alternatives --config usplash-artwork.so  (I think)
[04:09] <Eleaf> cafuego, I'm not finding a bios for this
[04:09] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: You *MUST* reinstall linux-image after doing that.
[04:10] <_jason> tonyyarusso: oh usplash, umm that's swhat cafuego said and then dpkg-reconfigure the linux image
[04:10] <cafuego> s/reinstall/dpkg-reconfigure/
[04:10] <tonyyarusso> Thanks _jason, cafuego.
[04:10] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: If you forget step 2, a new initrd image with the updated artwork won't be generated.
[04:11] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Got it.
[04:12] <hunkyspunky2> hello..i
[04:12] <hunkyspunky2> need some help
[04:12] <decaf> !tell lightdifference about breezy
[04:12] <cafuego> 40.0C
[04:12] <flight_master> hunkyspunky2: what kind of help?
[04:12] <lightdifference> decaf: I got it
[04:12] <hunkyspunky2> after i installed ubuntu..
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> now when i run windows 98(dual boot)
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> my browser..
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> sometimes can't connect to servers
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> like now
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> i try to surf web...
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> but can't
[04:13] <cafuego> Yes.
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> but i can still connect to mirc chat rooms
[04:13] <flight_master> hunkyspunky2: That's not a problem with Ubuntu... That is a problem with Winsucks :P
[04:13] <cafuego> But you can't belame Ubuntu for Win98 being crap.
[04:13] <hunkyspunky2> what could be the problem?
[04:14] <decaf> !tell hunkyspunky2 about enter
[04:14] <flight_master> hunkyspunky2: Installing Ubuntu has nothing to do with this
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> !tell hunkyspunky2 about enter
[04:14] <MickMcMack> Teh bot is dead?
[04:14] <jimmy_> Hi,all.
[04:14] <hunkyspunky2> decafand tonnyarusso okay will do for now on
[04:14] <brasko> Anyone know how to setup CVS server on ubuntu?
[04:14] <brasko> I have the cvs package.
[04:14] <cafuego> !test
[04:14] <ubotu> Failed.
[04:14] <tonyyarusso> MickMcMack, No...
[04:15] <brasko> Was wondering if I needed the cvsd package.
[04:15] <MickMcMack> Hmmz.
[04:15] <brasko> I also already have the directory /var/lib/cvs
[04:15] <hunkyspunky2> okay i'll go onto a windows chat room and see if i can get any help
[04:15] <decaf> bot fine, "!tell" works private
[04:15] <cafuego> brasko: 'cvsd' is a chrooted version of cvs. You don't need it to run a normal cvs server.
[04:15] <brasko> OK, thanks.
[04:15] <jimmy_> Anyone installed gnome-art ?
[04:15] <brasko> I used to run cvs server on my old debian box
[04:16] <brasko> Can I copy the directories over to the ubuntu box?
[04:16] <cafuego> brasko: Yes
[04:16] <cafuego> brasko: and add the same cfg in inetd.conf or xinitd.conf
[04:16] <brasko> OK, let me start with that.
[04:16] <sleepinglion> how to register
[04:16] <pellsweb> help
[04:16] <Gnat42> Hello all, anyone here have an ATI Radeon card and AMD64 machine and get ati's fireglcontrolpanel running?
[04:16] <cafuego> s/xinitd/xinetd/
[04:16] <Gnat42> when I attempt to start it
[04:16] <fuel> fglx sucks
[04:16] <pellsweb> hello please help
[04:16] <Gnat42> totally
[04:16] <cafuego> Gnat42: ati and amd64 are (still) not friends.
[04:16] <d33t> i'm having some problems with keychain, ssh-agent and ssh-add on a remote machine....... can anyone help me out?
[04:17] <tonyyarusso> pellsweb, Just ask.
[04:17] <Gnat42> however I can't get non-cloned windows with the ati driver correct?
[04:17] <fuel> i just used ubuntus default radeon sub drivers
[04:17] <brasko> my /etc/inetd.conf is empty, odd.
[04:17] <Gnat42> do the radeon drivers support dual head?
[04:17] <jimmy_> Gnome-art quit without any information when I select a art catalog at the menu. What's happened?
[04:17] <Gnat42> I don't need 3d acceleration
[04:17] <Gnat42> just not a cloned screen
[04:17] <pellsweb> i am very new
[04:18] <cafuego> brasko: Check /etc/xinetd.d
[04:18] <pellsweb> like 1 hour so i dont know how to install anything
[04:18] <pellsweb> i have dvd author and i cant install it
[04:18] <cafuego> Gnat42: Then all you should need is the radeon drivers and xinerama.
[04:18] <jimmy_> pellsweb
[04:18] <pellsweb> what do i do
[04:18] <brasko> I can't explain why, but the file doesn't exist
[04:18] <tonyyarusso> pellsweb, What do you mean you "have it"?
[04:18] <sleepinglion> tonyyarusso   i don't remember how to register  is it /msg nicksrv nickname passwd  mailaddress
[04:18] <jimmy_> pellsweb, type sudo synaptic in terminal
[04:19] <brasko> so I have several repos in /var/lib/cvs, all owned by root:root
[04:19] <Gnat42> cafuego: do you happen to have some docs or location to read about the xinerama options?
[04:19] <brasko> cafuego: what do you think the permissions should be?
[04:19] <jimmy_> pellsweb, decide what you need before download anything :)
[04:19] <Gnat42> I had it working at one point but well, never anything but cloned
[04:19] <pellsweb> i downloaded the program dvdauthor and now i dont know how to install it
[04:19] <delire> Gnat: it seems it's still generally more sensible to load a full i386 install onto the amd64 arch.
[04:20] <Gnat42> yeah, this isn't the only thing that the AMD64 is giving me grief over either.
[04:20] <delire> .. given that amd64 is just a superset of i386.
[04:20] <pellsweb> i need a dvd writing software
[04:20] <tonyyarusso> pellsweb, The better idea would be to go to Applications > Administration > Terminal, type sudo apt-get install dvdauthor, and enter your passwd when asked.
[04:20] <brasko> any ideas what user:group should own files in /var/lib/cvs?
[04:20] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i tell on linux how much an ethernet adaptor has downloaded/uploaded?
[04:20] <jbzz> pellsweb:   Does the file you downloaded end in      .deb       ?
[04:20] <Gnat42> question, with an AMD64, if you install the i386 version, can you not access the 64bit "functions" of the cpu if needed?
[04:20] <delire> pellsweb: gnomebaker or k3b are a good start.
[04:21] <jimmy_> pellsweb, how does the downloaded file looks like? a deb, zip, or tar.gz ?
[04:21] <sleepinglion>  /msg nickserv help register
[04:21] <pellsweb> it was atar.gz i have extracted it
[04:21] <rrbx> hi, does someone have a link for win32 codecs
[04:21] <tonyyarusso> pellsweb, Yeah, definitely easier to get it with apt/synaptic.
[04:22] <brasko> For instance, I currently get, cvs update: failed to create lock directory for `/var/lib/cvs/bob/config' (/var/lib/cvs/bob/config/#cvs.lock): Permission denied
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> !tell rrbx about w32codecs
[04:22] <pellsweb> how
[04:22] <CanYouHelpMePlz> how do i tell on linux how much an ethernet adaptor has downloaded/uploaded?
[04:22] <poningru> jeez I fscked my fiklesystem
[04:22] <poningru> thankfully fsck fixed it
[04:22] <brasko> CanYouHelpMePlz: /sbin/ifconfig
[04:22] <jimmy_> pellsweb, select synaptic from menu or type sudo synaptic in terminal.
[04:22] <tonyyarusso> pellsweb, Either what I said earlier, or System > Administration > Synaptic package manager, and find the package.
[04:22] <brasko> CanYouHelpMePlz: will tell you the Tx and Rx packets
[04:23] <Eleaf> cafuego, I cannot find a bios for this server.
[04:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> brasko: is tx up or down
[04:23] <brasko> CanYouHelpMePlz: Tx is trasmit, so it's upload
[04:23] <CanYouHelpMePlz> brasko: thanks
[04:23] <brasko> Rx is received
[04:23] <brasko> Also, notice the collisions.
[04:24] <adub> im trying to register the nessus for the plugins but it is bashing the command they sent in the email
[04:24] <brasko> CanYouHelpMePlz: no problem.
[04:24] <quacker> I did apt-get dist-upgrade a few days ago and ever since then Dapper's X server has been broken -- help!
[04:24] <pellsweb> i cant figure this out
[04:24] <brasko> So, no one knows what the correct permissions for /var/lib/cvs should be/
[04:24] <adub> opt/nessus/bin/nessus-fetch --register code
[04:24] <jimmy_> pellsweb...........................
[04:24] <adub> the above is the command i type
[04:24] <tonyyarusso> quacker, Dapper X being broken is a known issue.
[04:24] <Kyral> quacker: sudo ln -s /usr/bin/Xorg /usr/X11R6/bin/X
[04:24] <jbn-o> can anyone recommend a good place to find docs on how to: 1: prevent the icons, panel arrangement from being removed across sessions (meaning that a logout/login restores them to how they were) and 2: add MP3 playback to all programs that deal with sounds in Ubuntu?
[04:25] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I thought that got fixed 2 days ago.
[04:25] <quacker> tonyyarusso: ya think?  <sarcasm>
[04:25] <rrbx> tonyyarusso: that link isn't opening?
[04:25] <sleepinglion> clear
[04:25] <d33t> i'm trying to configure a passwordless ssh connection with ssh-agent and keychain on a remote machine that has no keyboard or monitor on it...... can this be done? i'm habing problems caching the passphrase globally.....
[04:25] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Could be.  (Two days isn't enough time for me to have been filled in :) )
[04:25] <delire> brasko: i have drwxrwsr-x 3 root src 4096 2004-11-01 21:06 for CVSROOT
[04:25] <pellsweb> why cant installs be easy
[04:25] <Eleaf> cafuego, it says make 250 mhz.  Does that mean that it is impossible to put a 450 mhz processor in this thing?
[04:25] <Eleaf> cafuego, max*
[04:25] <quacker> tonyyarusso: how about an workaround solution -- I didn't come here to try to tell you something you don't already know, I came here to get you to tell me something that I don't already know -- heh.
[04:26] <cafuego> quacker: Do another dist-upgrade. See if that fixes it. if not, consider you should perhaps not run non-stable Ubuntu versions in the future.
[04:26] <quacker> cafuego: nope
[04:26] <pellsweb> no wonder i stuck with windows so long
[04:26] <cafuego> quacker: After that, 'cd /usr/bin/X11; ln -s Xorg X'
[04:26] <tonyyarusso> rrbx, Try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:26] <d33t> pellsweb - apt-get is simple....
[04:26] <Eleaf> cafuego, ?
[04:26] <delire> cafuego: always best to wait for a distribution to become stable before upgrading to it.
[04:27] <brasko> delire: Thanks!
[04:27] <delire> sorry cafuego
[04:27] <fuel> gnome has crappy wireless support
[04:27] <pellsweb> yes but it says cant find
[04:27] <delire> quacker: always best to wait for a distribution to become stable before upgrading to it.
[04:27] <brasko> delire: so I should make my user "bob" be part of the src group?
[04:27] <quacker> cafuego: again -- usefull suggestions are greatly appreaciated -- like where I can get source for the broken GLcore module and (just maybe) make a 'contribution' to Ubuntu development by testing the aforesaid.
[04:27] <d33t> pellsweb - what package?
[04:27] <delire> brasko: yes
[04:27] <pellsweb> dvdauthor
[04:27] <brasko> delire: Thanks!
[04:27] <delire> brasko: np
[04:27] <quacker> cafuego: if you'
[04:27] <cafuego> quacker: Start by pasting the Xorg.0.log file to the pastebin.
[04:28] <jtd> fuel, how do you figure?
[04:28] <tonyyarusso> !tell pellsweb about universe
[04:28] <d33t> pellsweb - look in /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:28] <pellsweb> how d33t
[04:29] <fuel> not o many options
[04:29] <d33t> open a term and run 'sudo /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:29] <d33t> er
[04:29] <d33t> sorry
[04:29] <d33t> open a term and run 'sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list'
[04:29] <d33t> enter your password when asked
[04:29] <quacker> cafuego: re tired of people nagging and whining for help with 'unstable' or 'testing' gak then you might as well try to recruit 'private betesters'too.  Hmmm, re: what you said, is pastebin compatible with lynx?
[04:29] <Eleaf> cafuego, ...
[04:29] <decaf> pellsweb: replace "vi" with gedit
[04:29] <lysis_> d33t vi is so difficult to use in my opinion.  i just use nano
[04:30] <d33t> ok, fine, use nano
[04:30] <d33t> heh
[04:30] <quacker> lysis_: you might really love aee then
[04:30] <d33t> i learned vi from day 1, so i like it
[04:30] <d33t> pellsweb, still with me?
[04:30] <lysis_> quacker, why's that?
[04:31] <cafuego> quacker: I don't see how asking on #ubuntu how to fix problems helps Ubuntu development.
[04:31] <fuel> my ipod crashed ubuntu
[04:31] <quacker> lysis_: *apt-get install aee* and check it out
[04:31] <pellsweb> ok i have /etc/apt/sources.listgedit    [new file]             0,0- 1     all
[04:31] <brasko> delire: sorry, could you retell me what your permissions are (not the owners)
[04:31] <brasko> for some reason, I'm still getting permission denied.
[04:32] <brasko> Do I have to restart X, in order for the group permission to take effect?
[04:32] <jtd> why anyone would ever use vi is beyond me.
[04:32] <brasko> jtd: you mean instead of vim? :)
[04:32] <d33t> pellsweb, check pm
[04:32] <delire> brasko: for /var/lib/cvs itself i have: drwxrwsr-x  3 root src 4096 2004-11-01 21:06 cvs
[04:32] <quacker> cafuego, that's becasue you have an 'attitude problem'  ask someone like SABDFL to explain the idea of community-based development to you sometime (and let's take this to #ubuntu-offtopic if you feel any need to defend yourself or even otherwise respond further)
[04:33] <pellsweb> ??
[04:33] <brasko> delire: yup, that's what I have.
[04:33] <d33t> heh, ok
[04:33] <d33t> nm
[04:33] <d33t> you have the file open in gedit?
[04:33] <quacker> =oD
[04:33] <pellsweb> umm dunno
[04:33] <pellsweb> lol
[04:33] <brasko> and inside, the same thing, except no write for group permission
[04:33] <brasko> hmmm
[04:33] <brasko> is htat the problem?
[04:33] <brasko> definatly doesn't seem correct
[04:33] <d33t> heh, this is gonna be tough
[04:33] <quacker> Anyone ele want to try to find a workaround to the  Dapper glcore bug?
[04:34] <delire> brasko: yes likely. try a chown with the flag -R
[04:34] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is their something better for gnome then gdesklets to show memory etc?
[04:34] <quacker> Maybe we can try reverting single files to earlier versions???
[04:34] <d33t> go to Application -> Accessories -> terminal
[04:34] <pellsweb> ok done that
[04:34] <d33t> then type in the following:
[04:34] <delire> brasko: 'sudo chown -R you:src /var/lib/cvs' i'd imagine would do it.
[04:35] <tonyyarusso> So I was going to reinstall linux-image, and I though apt-get install --reinstall linux-image-'uname -r' would work, but it didn't understand.  Should I be able to do that somehow, or do I have to just type it in?
[04:35] <d33t> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:35] <brasko> Does the command 'sudo chown -R g+w /var/lib/cvs' look correct?
[04:35] <d33t> you can copy and paste that if you want
[04:35] <brasko> oops, chmod I mean
[04:35] <cafuego> quacker: Like I said, why don't you start by pasting the Xorg.0.log file to the pastebin?
[04:35] <brasko> For instance, this is a directory in /var/lib/cvs
[04:35] <dcode> how do I disable the virtual screen resolutions in xorg?
[04:35] <brasko> drwxr-sr-x   8 root src  4096 2006-01-21 22:18 bob
[04:35] <d33t> pellsweb: you get that far?
[04:36] <emi> hy guys. I have ubuntu already installed and reinstalled winxp. now I've lost the bootmanager and I get The file /boot/grub/stage1 not read correctly. during grub-install
[04:36] <quacker> cafuego -- I'll repeat my answer to that suggestion (it was another qwuestion) in #ubuntu-offtopic
[04:36] <pellsweb> says invalid user
[04:36] <annie> hey, how can I install kernel source?
[04:36] <delire> quacker: you give very little information. what about error output?
[04:36] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, And was _jason correct in thinking I could just use dpkg-reconfigure, or do I have to actually reinstall it?
[04:36] <brasko> delire: whooohooo! it works. Thanks for the help!
[04:36] <pellsweb> To compile, type
[04:36] <pellsweb> 	./configure
[04:36] <pellsweb> 	make
[04:36] <pellsweb> Then to install, type
[04:36] <pellsweb> 	make install
[04:36] <pellsweb> If you don't want the files installed to /usr/local/bin, then you can
[04:36] <cafuego> quacker: pastebin has a handy little script that can upload the file using curl or python.
[04:36] <pellsweb> specify --prefix=/usr or some other dir as a parameter to configure.
[04:36] <cafuego> pellsweb: Do not paste!
[04:36] <delire> brasko: no problem. i'm glad it does ;)
[04:36] <pellsweb> ok sorry
[04:37] <d33t> heh, trust, this is MUCH easier
[04:37] <quacker> delire -- can you /join #ubuntu-offtopic please so I can tell both you and cafuego at the same time?
[04:37] <d33t> once you do this part once, you never have to do it again
[04:37] <pellsweb> not for me lol
[04:37] <brasko> delire: I installed ubuntu I few weeks ago. I had no idea how much stuff I had setup on my last machine.
[04:37] <pins> how does one get xine installed
[04:37] <d33t> and installs are super easy
[04:37] <pellsweb> its all foreign ground
[04:37] <delire> brasko: hehe. sounds like you're just getting settled.
[04:37] <happyhog> how do i install anything
[04:37] <d33t> i know, i used windows before
[04:37] <brasko> delire: I think I'm finally reaching the end. I hope when the next release comes out, the upgrade will be easy.
[04:37] <d33t> it's strange :)
[04:37] <pellsweb> what is a good dvd writer
[04:37] <fuel> pioneer
[04:37] <pellsweb> that will convert divx
[04:37] <tonyyarusso> annie, For what architecture?
[04:37] <brasko> delire: The debian distro's were not often updated, but when they did, it didn't break much for me
[04:37] <delire> quacker: i'm off to bed shortly. it's nearly dawn here. good luck with it all. make sure you capture output and post bugs.
[04:37] <pellsweb> i mean software not writer
[04:38] <d33t> for gnome i'm not sure
[04:38] <happyhog> does anyone know how to install .deb packages?
[04:38] <fuel> for linux?
[04:38] <Eleaf> Happuf, yes
[04:38] <fuel> or windows?
[04:38] <Eleaf> happyhog, yes
[04:38] <pellsweb> if i cant install a simple package what hope do i have
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> annie, Never mind, I'm an idiot sometimes.
[04:38] <delire> brasko: well the next stable release isn't far away. it's about to be the best yet from what i can see.
[04:38] <d33t> do you know ehre Synaptic is?
[04:38] <happyhog> ok, how
[04:38] <Eleaf> happyhog, sudo dpkg -i packagename
[04:38] <delire> anyway, must leave. tis late.
[04:38] <tonyyarusso> annie, Source is architecture-independent.
[04:38] <happyhog> i did that with a dew plugins
[04:38] <d33t> pellsweb, it's due to repositories
[04:38] <annie> oh, okay
[04:38] <happyhog> but only 2 worked
[04:38] <Eleaf> happyhog, why?
[04:39] <brasko> delire: I can't wait! Thanks again for the help.
[04:39] <pellsweb> synaptic package manager
[04:39] <happyhog> i have no idea why they didnt work
[04:39] <happyhog> they are plugins for audio
[04:39] <__Dwayne> evening all..I have a wifi problem--anyone here willing to assist?
[04:39] <annie> I've just intalled ubuntu and I'm just trying to get my wireless working
[04:39] <d33t> pellsweb, yes
[04:39] <Eleaf> happyhog, what did it say when you tried to isntall them?
[04:39] <pellsweb> yes have that open and password done
[04:39] <d33t> you can search in there for dvd authoring
[04:39] <tonyyarusso> annie, sudo apt-get install linux-source-2.6.12 will get it for you.
[04:39] <d33t> or burning
[04:40] <d33t> but, you REALLY should read this: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[04:40] <happyhog> it said that "errors where encountered during processing
[04:40] <annie> okay, wonderful, thanks tonyyarusso!
[04:40] <tonyyarusso> annie, np
[04:40] <happyhog> it reads the database, and then unpacks
[04:40] <Eleaf> happyhog, what else?
[04:40] <d33t> you want to uncomment the lines and allow access to to the 'universe' repositories
[04:40] <Milk_> has anyone here tried to install ubuntu on an old world mac?
[04:40] <pins> sudo apt-get install xine?
[04:40] <happyhog> it says it has "dependancy" problems
[04:40] <d33t> it will open you up to a world of software
[04:40] <pellsweb> ok im getting nowhere searching in there
[04:40] <pins> would that do it?
[04:40] <d33t> don't search
[04:40] <d33t> it's a direct link
[04:41] <Eleaf> happyhog, you probably don't have all the dependencies
[04:41] <d33t> everything you need is right there
[04:41] <happyhog> how do i know which ones to get
[04:41] <Eleaf> happyhog, are those packages available through apt?
[04:41] <happyhog> i downloaded them from pakages.ubunut
[04:41] <Eleaf> happyhog, what are you trying to install?
[04:41] <pellsweb> ummm whoosh right over my head
[04:41] <Eleaf> oh
[04:41] <happyhog> audio plugins for gstreamer
[04:41] <__Dwayne> anyone know what this error means (after doing 'ndiswrapper -m) 'modprobe config already contains alias directive'.. I can't find the modprobe.conf file to even look at it..
[04:41] <Eleaf> happyhog, there is an easier way
[04:41] <happyhog> ok
[04:41] <happyhog> how
[04:41] <Seb> sup yall
[04:42] <pellsweb> d33t did i say ive only been using linux about an hour
[04:42] <Eleaf> happyhog, what is the exact package names?
[04:42] <fr500> hello
[04:42] <d33t> no, but i knew you were a totel n00b :)
[04:42] <tonyyarusso> happyhog, apt-get.  sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8-something.
[04:42] <Seb> why would totem refuse to read my mp3s ("no decoders found to handle the stream") ?
[04:42] <CanYouHelpMePlz> pellsweb: what are you trying to do?
[04:42] <Eleaf> yeah what tonyyarusso said happyhog
[04:42] <Eleaf> happyhog, you can also use synaptic
[04:42] <fr500> Seb, maybe they are MP3 instead of mp3?
[04:42] <pellsweb> im tryiong to install some software called dvdauthor
[04:43] <happyhog> i did that too
[04:43] <d33t> if you type in the things in the black boxed, you will be able to do this
[04:43] <fr500> (Seb in uppercase)
[04:43] <Seb> fr500: well mpg123 plays them fine
[04:43] <happyhog> the computer does not have internet
[04:43] <fr500> the extension i mean
[04:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell Seb about mp3
[04:43] <Eleaf> happyhog, oh...  well that won't work then.
[04:43] <pellsweb> ok type it in to what
[04:43] <dcode> xorg has a huge virtual size for my screen resolution, how do I disable that.  I never want to have a viewport
[04:43] <ubuntu> pellsweb: i have only been using ubunt for about 10 mins
[04:43] <fr500> Seb, you need gstreamer plugins for mp3
[04:43] <happyhog> yeah, but i have downloaded the packages
[04:43] <d33t> remember how i had you open that terminal?
[04:44] <happyhog> and they are in my desktop folder
[04:44] <rrbx> hey my cpu is changing speeds on it's own, is that normal?
[04:44] <pellsweb> yes
[04:44] <poningru> !myth
[04:44] <ubotu> somebody said myth was for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[04:44] <Eleaf> rrbx, yea, it's probably powernowd
[04:44] <d33t> so, put it in that terminal window
[04:44] <rrbx> yeah it is powernowd
[04:44] <pellsweb> i now have a whole heap of text appeared
[04:44] <d33t> one line at a time
[04:44] <happyhog> do u know where to find these dependencies, eleaf?
[04:44] <d33t> just the 2 that are in the black box there
[04:44] <fuel_> irssi rules
[04:44] <d33t> after the gedit part?
[04:44] <pellsweb> yep thats right
[04:44] <fuel> yes it does
[04:45] <fr500> is there some music composition application for linux (like finale for instance)
[04:45] <Eleaf> happyhog, it should say at the ubuntu package site.  apt automaticall downloads all dependencies the package needs to run, so you don't have to do it manually..
[04:45] <arm0sfighter_> !realplayer
[04:45] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:45] <rrbx> also my i810 doesn't give me any resolutions, so i'm using generic vesa
[04:45] <happyhog> ok, i will look there, thanks for your time, eleaf
[04:45] <pellsweb> u know what i think ill go back to windows its easier
[04:45] <happyhog> brb
[04:45] <d33t> pellsweb, you got the heap of text after typing the sudo gedit line right?
[04:45] <rrbx> is there video probs with dapper?
[04:45] <Eleaf> happyhog, sure! = )
[04:45] <pellsweb> yeah
[04:46] <d33t> ok, that's good
[04:46] <d33t> use the arrow keys to move down a bit
[04:46] <d33t> find this line....
[04:46] <tonyyarusso> Where can I find a history of things I've installed?
[04:46] <d33t> # deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu hoary universe
[04:46] <Milk_> has anyone here tried to install ubuntu on an old world mac?
[04:46] <fuel_b> old world?
[04:46] <d33t> find it?
[04:46] <pellsweb> nope
[04:47] <fr500> tonyyarusso, you can tipe history and see what you did but it's limited to a certain number of commands
[04:47] <pellsweb> every thing i have here is breezy
[04:47] <[t0rc] > alright, having issues with nvidia PC.
[04:47] <pellsweb> no hoary
[04:47] <fr500> tonyyarusso, you could do history | grep apt-get
[04:47] <d33t> you're using gedit right?
[04:47] <Milk_> fuel_b, yes, an older g3
[04:47] <[t0rc] > got Ubuntu installed. comes to TTY.
[04:47] <alpha> is anyone here running the latest azureus on ubuntu 64?
[04:47] <d33t> oh yeha
[04:47] <pellsweb> i did what u said
[04:47] <d33t> sorry, it shoudl say breezy, not hoary
[04:47] <vader> I have an old dual processor Compaq p1 200 with close to 1 gig of RAM, the problem is that when I go to install any version of Linux, it won't even get to the partitioner. I have tried Linux noauto and most of those little trix, does anyone have any suggestions as to what I can try to get passed this, I have even put in a different known good video card
[04:47] <[t0rc] > configured xorg xserver doesn't work;
[04:47] <d33t> those directions are a little old
[04:47] <emi> Milk_: I think it says on the ubuntu ppc cds that they don't work on the old workd macs
[04:47] <pellsweb> ok so whats the line again
[04:47] <tonyyarusso> fr500, That helps anyway.  I was hoping for a dpkg log or something.
[04:47] <d33t> shoudl be....
[04:47] <fr500> tonyyarusso, no clue sorru
[04:47] <fr500> sorry
[04:48] <pellsweb> deb-src http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-security universe
[04:48] <d33t> deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:48] <Milk_> emi, I thought it said they would... but I can't even get it to boot fron the CD to try
[04:48] <pellsweb> yep got it
[04:48] <d33t> ok, see the # in front of that line?
[04:48] <pc09> help
[04:49] <pellsweb> tell a lie there is no multiverse there
[04:49] <fr500> pc09, just ask
[04:49] <pc09> how can i install yahoo messenger in ubuntu?
[04:49] <d33t> does it say universe?
[04:49] <Seb> fr500: i did install all the gstreamer-plugins, do I have to restart something ?
[04:49] <decaf> vader: at least I can say, your storage controller has not been detected. I think your scsi controller isn't supported by kernel.
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, How do I set factoids to be of the <reply> type, rather than factoid is yaddayadda?
[04:49] <d33t> because i may have added the multiverse part
[04:49] <Milk_> pc09, GAIM will do yahoo I believe
[04:49] <d33t> which you can too quit honestly
[04:49] <fr500> Seb, not really, gstreamer mad i think it is not sure though
[04:49] <tonyyarusso> pc09, Yes, Gaim will.
[04:49] <d33t> pc09, gaim will do yahoo for sure
[04:49] <Seb> fr500: how do i restart it ?
[04:49] <fr500> pc09, yes gaim can be used for yahoo messenger
[04:49] <pellsweb> d33t i have deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:50] <fr500> Seb, you don't need to restart
[04:50] <pc09> k thnx guys brb
[04:50] <Seb> fr500: hmm, then what ?
[04:50] <vader> decaf, thanx, I was sort of thinking that but I would rather be sure....so I firgured I would ask
[04:50] <d33t> ah, you aren't in the us are you
[04:50] <d33t> heh
[04:50] <fr500> Seb, what totem do you have totem xine or totem gstreamer?
[04:50] <pellsweb> nope
[04:50] <emi> Milk_ : I only noticed g4 and g5
[04:50] <pellsweb> is that the line
[04:50] <pellsweb> and i am removing the hash yes
[04:51] <decaf> decaf: you should check if your scsi controller a driver has as a kernel patch or binary module. it's possible to add support to installer
[04:51] <Milk_> emi, debian it is then
[04:51] <d33t> yes, that shoudl be the line
[04:51] <d33t> remove the #
[04:51] <Seb> fr500: totem-gstreamer
[04:51] <whatwhat> what do i have to download in syncromatyc ... ubuntu to make my java works on firefox?
[04:51] <whatwhat> :x
[04:51] <d33t> and also the # fromt he line below it
[04:51] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Exactly like that, factoid is <reply> foobar
[04:51] <vader> decaf, working on it lol
[04:51] <pellsweb> ok
[04:51] <d33t> then save it
[04:51] <d33t> and you can close it then
[04:51] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Ah.  Nice.  I didn't realize it was that easy.
[04:51] <pellsweb> ok
[04:51] <d33t> then go back to the terminal and type this.....
[04:52] <d33t> sudo apt-get update
[04:52] <arm0sfighter> !realplayer
[04:52] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[04:52] <emi> Milk_ : I remember installing once yellowdog. but I think its for new world also. debian then
[04:52] <Eleaf> cafuego, HelpEleaf is <reply> Ok Eleaf, I will help you greatly.  lol
[04:52] <Milk_> well.. maybe you guys can help me with a floppy issue.  I can't seem to be able to either mount or create a boot floppy from a disk image
[04:52] <pellsweb> ok its dloading
[04:52] <d33t> it shoudl download a bunch of stuff
[04:52] <d33t> good
[04:52] <d33t> when it's done, type
[04:52] <pellsweb> yep finished
[04:52] <d33t> sudo apt-get install dvdauthor
[04:53] <d33t> it will probably want to install some other pakage dependancies as well
[04:53] <Unity> sudo touch me
[04:53] <Icemaann> is there a package to get mp3 support in vlc, or should I just build the src package?
[04:53] <d33t> just say yes
[04:53] <pellsweb> couldnt find the package dvdauthor
[04:53] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Can they have a linebreak specified in them?
[04:53] <Milk_> I'm getting an IO error either mounting or fdisking or dding
[04:53] <d33t> gah
[04:53] <whatwhat> ubotu was not for me but is really that thnks :p
[04:53] <d33t> heh, i guess that was the wrong line
[04:53] <ubotu> whatwhat: what are you talking about?
[04:53] <pellsweb> its sat here on my desktop laughing at me
[04:53] <whatwhat> ermm on bot :x
[04:54] <whatwhat> but that the link i need thanks :p
[04:54] <pellsweb> i have the folder open
[04:54] <d33t> you removed the $ from the deb and the deb-src lines right?
[04:54] <gaatmx> why are the forums down?
[04:54] <pellsweb> eh
[04:54] <d33t> i mean the #
[04:54] <pellsweb> no
[04:54] <pellsweb> u only said one line lol
[04:55] <d33t> that would be your problem then
[04:55] <pellsweb> ok so what now
[04:55] <d33t> yeah, i messed up
[04:55] <d33t> open the thing i gedit again
[04:55] <d33t> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:55] <alpha> ok i have an issue with azureus... its not allowing me to connect to any peers.. can anyone help me?
[04:55] <pellsweb> i have deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:56] <d33t> yeah
[04:56] <pellsweb> and deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe
[04:56] <d33t> should see deb and deb-src
[04:56] <d33t> uncomment both
[04:56] <pellsweb> both un commented
[04:56] <d33t> (remove the #)
[04:56] <d33t> ok
[04:56] <pellsweb> yep
[04:56] <[t0rc] > When using Ubuntu straight off the CD
[04:56] <d33t> before you close it
[04:56] <d33t> add this on the end of both....
[04:56] <fr500> !w32codecs
[04:56] <ubotu> [w32codecs]  a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:56] <d33t> multiverse
[04:56] <[t0rc] > waht would I select for a nvidia card? nv??
[04:56] <d33t> so, it should look like....
[04:57] <d33t> i have deb-src http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:57] <pellsweb> deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy universe multiverse
[04:57] <d33t> yes
[04:57] <pellsweb> ok save and close
[04:57] <d33t> save, might as well leave open though
[04:57] <d33t> til we know it works
[04:57] <pellsweb> ok
[04:57] <d33t> in case i messed up again
[04:57] <d33t> :)
[04:57] <d33t> but, go back to the terminal
[04:57] <d33t> and again, run
[04:58] <TheCut> whats a "~" after a filename represent?
[04:58] <d33t> sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <jbzz> d33t:  wipe the sweat off your forehead
[04:58] <vader> hehe whoever just wanted the W32 Codecs thanx for reminding me to install them, I keep forgetting to
[04:58] <fr500> !nvidia
[04:58] <ubotu> rumour has it, nvidia is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/Nvidia or http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=57368
[04:58] <d33t> heh
[04:58] <pellsweb> dloaded a lot more that time
[04:58] <fr500> [t0rc] , read above
[04:58] <d33t> i was just gonna ask
[04:58] <d33t> good sign
[04:59] <d33t> try the sudo apt-get install dvdauthor again
[04:59] <[t0rc] > fr500: yeah, tried. doesn't work.
[04:59] <fr500> [t0rc] , did for me
[04:59] <Munchkinguy> Anyone know the command for adding new printers?
[05:00] <d33t> pellsweb, any luck?
[05:00] <fr500> Munchkinguy, command? System->administration->printers
[05:00] <vader> that was easy lol
[05:00] <pellsweb> seems like it
[05:00] <ViGiLnT> wasnt the app gnoCHM available at the repos ?
[05:00] <Munchkinguy> fr500: I mean the text command
[05:00] <Natham> hi, ubuntu is not loading the right driver for my nic how can i force it to use a specific driver?
[05:00] <fr500> Munchkinguy, no clie
[05:00] <d33t> did the install find dvdauthor?
[05:01] <Munchkinguy> fr500: What?
[05:01] <pellsweb> it ended with setting up dvd author
[05:01] <fr500> Munchkinguy, i don't know then
[05:01] <d33t> awesome, there you go
[05:01] <graham> !azureus
[05:01] <ubotu> methinks azureus is a popular bittorent client written in Java, installation instructions can be found at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AzureusHowTo
[05:01] <pellsweb> but............ where is it installed to
[05:01] <fr500> !clipboard
[05:01] <d33t> now, if you want to, there is another 3rd party repository with a bunch more software as well
[05:01] <ubotu> fr500: I give up, what is it?
[05:01] <d33t> pellsweb, does it matter?
[05:02] <d33t> if shoudl be in the application menu
[05:02] <pellsweb> it does if i want to use it
[05:02] <Munchkinguy> Anyone alse know the text command for setting up printers?
[05:02] <d33t> crap, you got me. it's not there
[05:02] <d33t> heh
[05:02] <pellsweb> i know it should be but guess what it isnt lol
[05:03] <dcode> is it normal that a normal user acct can't run startx?  do I have to login from KDM (or GDM or whatever)?
[05:03] <d33t> application -> add application
[05:03] <dcode> it tells me that the user doesn't have permission
[05:03] <Natham> hi, ubuntu is not loading the right driver for my nic how can i force it to use a specific driver?
[05:03] <pellsweb> yup
[05:04] <d33t> in the search, type dvdauthor
[05:04] <d33t> it shoudl find qdvdauthor
[05:04] <pellsweb> yep got it
[05:04] <d33t> check the box and click apply
[05:04] <d33t> then it should say it's going to add it
[05:04] <d33t> click apply again
[05:04] <pellsweb> a bit of a pian in the @rse innit
[05:04] <d33t> yeah, it is
[05:04] <pellsweb> pain
[05:05] <jono> hi all
[05:05] <d33t> dvdauthor isn't a package normally used in ubuntu it seems
[05:05] <d33t> heh
[05:05] <cappicard> good evening. Anyone else unable to get to the forums? It's timing out on me.
[05:05] <pellsweb> do i have to do that whenever i install
[05:05] <d33t> no
[05:05] <Munchkinguy> d33t: any idea?
[05:05] <ViGiLnT> wasnt the app gnoCHM available at the repos ?
[05:05] <d33t> i'm guessing there is another package that is preferred here
[05:05] <jono> I want to add export PATH=/opt/swftools/bin:$PATH to my user's login session so I get those extra tools - I tried doing this in .bash_profile with no luck - where do I do it?
[05:05] <pellsweb> so installing normally is easy yeah
[05:05] <d33t> munchkinguy: there isn't just one command
[05:06] <d33t> it's a little complicated, at least it has been for me
[05:06] <d33t> pellsweb, yes, it's usually super easy
[05:06] <pellsweb> lol i just picked a problem one
[05:06] <d33t> but, like i say, i don't know what the default burnign software is on gnome
[05:06] <d33t> i use k3b on kde
[05:06] <d33t> yes you did
[05:06] <d33t> i used to use xcdroast back in the say, but i don't know if it does dvds
[05:06] <pellsweb> and now after all that it wont do divx lol
[05:07] <d33t> wait, what are you trying to do?
[05:07] <vader> I use K3B on gnome as well, to get it going all you have to do is open a terminal and type in k3b
[05:07] <d33t> divx to dvd?
[05:07] <pellsweb> yeah
[05:07] <d33t> vader: yes, i COULD use k3b in gnome, but no burner on this machine ;)
[05:07] <pellsweb> divx to dvd
[05:08] <d33t> you want divx as data or you want a dvd you can put int eh dvd player?
[05:08] <d33t> *the
[05:08] <vader> ahhhhhhhhhhh ok lol I should pay attention to the WHOLE convo hu lol
[05:08] <pellsweb> i want to convert divx to dvd vobs
[05:08] <whatwhat> !java
[05:08] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[05:08] <d33t> well, pellsweb, that's where i stop helping you, because i have no idea how :)
[05:08] <whatwhat>  !javadebs
[05:09] <pellsweb> vader does k3d do that
[05:09] <d33t> you look on google at all?
[05:09] <whatwhat> !javadebs
[05:09] <d33t> k3b doesn't
[05:09] <pellsweb> yep and got dvdauthor
[05:09] <vader> not that I have seen
[05:09] <pellsweb> ok
[05:09] <d33t> ....at least as far as i know
[05:09] <d33t> hld on a second
[05:10] <d33t> pellsweb, does dvdauthor convert mpeg to dvd?
[05:10] <pellsweb> umm pass
[05:11] <poningru> !myth
[05:11] <ubotu> I heard myth is for watching TV in Linux.  Check out http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2005/12/16/instructions-to-install-mythtv/
[05:11] <pellsweb> i should think so as its an author
[05:11] <poningru> !myth
[05:11] <d33t> pellsweb, looks like it does
[05:11] <d33t> i found this....
[05:11] <d33t> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/showthread.php?t=279507
[05:11] <d33t> bascially, you need to convert the divx file to an mpeg file first
[05:12] <d33t> i THINK mencoder is part of the mplayer package
[05:12] <cappicard> screenshot time: :)  http://saiya-jin.is-a-geek.com/images/composite-screenshot.jpg
[05:12] <d33t> but, i'm not sure
[05:12] <cappicard> mencoder is a separate package in ubuntu
[05:12] <cappicard> but it depends on mplayer afaik
[05:13] <d33t> ah
[05:13] <d33t> i've never used mencode
[05:13] <d33t> ok cappicar, i'll bite, how did you do the transparancy?
[05:13] <d33t> &cappicard, sorry
[05:13] <pellsweb> im running dual boot so if push comes to shove ill reboot and do it with windows
[05:13] <d33t> pellsweb, try installing mencode
[05:14] <tonyyarusso> Someone check these and let me know what you think: !newuser, !common.
[05:14] <pellsweb> ok
[05:14] <d33t> cappicard, and where did you find the verizon minute tracker for firefox?!
[05:14] <d33t> that's awesome!
[05:15] <cappicard> d33t: I enabled composite in xorg.conf, and then I put kwin into my session startup (after removing metacity from that list)
[05:15] <cappicard> oh, I found it at mozilla's site
[05:15] <d33t> you have a tutorial on the transperency?
[05:16] <cappicard> I found on on the forums
[05:16] <cappicard> s/on on/one on/
[05:16] <d33t> ight, i'll look around later
[05:16] <fr500> d33t, it's on the forums
[05:16] <fr500> d33t, got nvidia or ati?
[05:16] <cappicard> but I can't get to the forums though.
[05:16] <d33t> nvidia...... not on this machine though
[05:17] <nofear> whats the URL for the forms?
[05:17] <d33t> on my desktop. my laptop os old with weak 3d card
[05:17] <d33t> *is
[05:17] <fr500> d33t, if you don't have acceletation it will be crappy
[05:17] <cappicard> ubuntuforums.org
[05:17] <d33t> i am aware
[05:17] <nofear> ty
[05:17] <fr500> d33t, what is that verizon clock you said?
[05:17] <d33t> not looking to do here, on the desktop
[05:17] <d33t> cappicard had it on his screenshot
[05:17] <d33t> check it...
[05:18] <fr500> oh
[05:18] <d33t> https://addons.mozilla.org/extensions/moreinfo.php?id=1761&application=firefox
[05:18] <d33t> that's the extension
[05:18] <d33t> for firefox
[05:18] <d33t> *clicks install*
[05:18] <nofear> hmm cant access forums
[05:18] <tonyyarusso> nofear, See /topic.
[05:18] <nofear> ah
[05:18] <nofear> doh
[05:18] <nofear> LOL
[05:19] <pellsweb> cant find mencoder got mplayr though
[05:19] <gerald> what's the command to start up that gnome printer setup?
[05:19] <d33t> pellsweb, i'm not sure where mencode comes from
[05:20] <d33t> er, 4200?
[05:20] <fr500> d33t, going dual in a couple of months, but i may upgrade to a 7800 first saved long time but worth every penny
[05:20] <d33t> dual display rules. i have that at work....... very nice
[05:20] <fr500> d33t, no dual card (sli)
[05:20] <Dattas> i have dual display as well, i agree
[05:20] <d33t> 3200x1200...... now THAT's realestate!
[05:21] <fr500> those ti's were the real deal on their time though, they were awesome
[05:21] <d33t> yeah, dual monitors
[05:21] <cappicard> I can get 1600x1024 on this monitor (an odd one)
[05:21] <whatwhat> i allready have the java plugin in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/  libjavaplugin_oji.so  but the firefox keeps to says to me that i need to install the java ... :\  and i have the java actived in firefox :\ someone knows ... why this is not working ? :x
[05:21] <fr500> d33t, no, sli is not dual monitors
[05:21] <cappicard> my card can do dual-DVI :)
[05:21] <fr500> yeah mine too
[05:21] <cappicard> but I'm just using the VGA port
[05:21] <cappicard> but mine can only use DVI-D monitors.
[05:21] <gerald> anyone know what command opens the gnome printer setup ?
[05:21] <d33t> wait, what are you talking about then, heh
[05:21] <Dattas> mine has dual RGB
[05:21] <d33t> i'm lost
[05:22] <fr500> d33t, with sli,you have 2 pci express cards working as one, with like 50% better performance
[05:22] <d33t> OHHHH!!!! forgot about that
[05:22] <d33t> yeah, i read a little on that
[05:22] <d33t> pretty cool tech
[05:22] <Dattas> doesn't SLI-D have dual view?
[05:22] <cappicard> Dattas: you can actually do BNC monitors?
[05:22] <Dattas> BNC? sorry not up to date on all stuffz
[05:22] <rrbx> so what do i need to have my i810 work properly?
[05:22] <d33t> yeah, i thought you still get dual display with sli....
[05:22] <d33t> maybe i'm wrong?
[05:22] <fr500> d33t, yes sure you do
[05:22] <pellsweb> ill try gnome baker
[05:23] <cappicard> oh my bad. BNC uses three separate cables for red, blue, and green
[05:23] <d33t> so you get dual display AND 50% more power for gaming..... how can you go wrong?!
[05:24] <Dattas> oh no, i ment VGA but at my work the n00bs call them RGB cables so i just call them that, and i am at work so lol
[05:24] <fr500> d33t, yah, maybe you can go beyoud dual scree i think since you get 4 ports....
[05:24] <d33t> hrm 4 screens eh?
[05:24] <fr500> d33t, dunno if it works but i guess yes
[05:24] <d33t> 3200x2400 resolution?!
[05:24] <pellsweb> i get 8 screen support here
[05:24] <Dattas> one of my co-workers has a octople screen
[05:24] <cappicard> ah. it's DB15 (if you want to be technical ;) )
[05:25] <Dattas> yeah i know :)
[05:25] <Dattas> but people give me weird looks if i go that far
[05:25] <cappicard> I have dual-link DVI-D, S-video, and DB15 on this card
[05:25] <cappicard> heh
[05:25] <cappicard> in theory, I could do three monitors (two DVI and one SVGA)
[05:25] <Dattas> two DB15's here, on my pc at home i got a DB15 and a DVI-I
[05:25] <d33t> pellsweb, back to mencoder for a second..... the package IS mencoder, note the r
[05:26] <Dattas> you mean 2 monitors and a tv? lol
[05:26] <pellsweb> yes i know
[05:26] <cappicard> and on the same card.
[05:26] <hyphenated> the touchpad on my laptop seems more sensitive under breezy compared to hoary :-/
[05:26] <cappicard> well, two DVI-D and one SVGA
[05:26] <cappicard> as a well as a TV
[05:26] <Doomhammer> guys how do I get my microphone working under teamspeak?
[05:26] <Doomhammer> i've fooled around in alsamixer, nothing seems to work
[05:26] <pellsweb> i have two dvi and svideo front and back of my machine with a scart socket also
[05:27] <cappicard> are the forums being mirrored someplace?
[05:27] <d33t> well, now that i have helped someone out and got people talking about video cards....... wonder if anyone has time to help with an ssh issue :)
[05:27] <odat> hi everyone
[05:27] <odat> anyone know how to adjust the l2 cache?
[05:27] <pellsweb> oh yeah thanks d33t
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> Can someone direct me to instructions for how to make a metapackage?
[05:28] <QMario> Are there any C++ or Java IDEs available for Ubuntu Linux?
[05:28] <d33t> np
[05:28] <steve_laptop> well eveyone dont try upgrading to 6.04 from 5.10 it killed my install buggy as hell
[05:28] <Doomhammer> QMario: Bloodshed Dev-C++ and Eclipse
[05:28] <Doomhammer> argh why doesn't my damn microphone work !?
[05:28] <Dattas> Mythtv = awesome because there is no DRM :)
[05:28] <d33t> doomhammer, if mine worked i'd help you out :) i'm in the same boat, i just don't need mine......
[05:29] <d33t> dattas, you use mythtv?
[05:29] <thoffmeyer> is there a way where I can turn off gdm and just use the login prompt?
[05:29] <Dattas> yupperz!
[05:29] <d33t> i've got a question about it...... does it have commercial skipping?
[05:29] <d33t> like automatic, one-button skipping?
[05:29] <Dattas> um i dunno, lol i just have it record show i haven't had time to look into it. i could look if you want
[05:30] <d33t> nah, no biggie
[05:30] <thoffmeyer> anyone?
[05:30] <d33t> i use beyondtv on my media pc to record tv...... it skips commercials
[05:30] <pellsweb> ok fellas seeya
[05:30] <d33t> i thought they put that in myth too, but i wasn't sure
[05:30] <fr500> d33t, what were you talking about (ssh commercial skipping :s) got lost
[05:30] <d33t> l8r pellsweb
[05:30] <d33t> fr500, 2 different things
[05:30] <d33t> heh
[05:30] <fr500> oh d33t what ssh issue?
[05:31] <Dattas> b33t, yeah it looks like if i his end or home it will skip them
[05:31] <alpha> hey guys
[05:31] <alpha> whats the advantadge of making .deb packages?
[05:31] <steve_laptop> is there a howto out there for mythTV with ubuntu?
[05:31] <d33t> dattas, awesome...... i may be converting that box over too :)
[05:31] <hyphenated> steve_laptop: dapper is still expected to be buggy as hell. note it's 604, which is almost 3 months away.
[05:31] <d33t> fr500, here's my deal
[05:31] <d33t> i have a couple machines all running ubuntu and ssh
[05:31] <d33t> iw ant to use chared keys to log in through ssh without a password
[05:32] <d33t> i got it working, BUT
[05:32] <d33t> i have to use ssh-add with ssh-agent on the local machine for it to work right
[05:32] <steve_laptop> hyphenated, I no just wanted to try it, not a big deal on this end...
[05:32] <d33t> problem is, one machine (my backup raid server) doesn't have a screen or even keyboard connected
[05:32] <d33t> when i do ssh-add over ssh, it only stay live for that one session. when i log out, it's gone
[05:32] <thoffmeyer> anyone know how I can disable gdm and use .xinitrc and startx?
[05:32] <hyphenated> steve_laptop: I imagine most people here would have advised against it, for exactly that reason ;-)
[05:33] <QMario> D33t, so you like destroying the environment?
[05:33] <d33t> it does when it logs out
[05:33] <pierre_> hi
[05:33] <d33t> becuase the environment is only temporary for that one ssh connection
[05:33] <d33t> i dont' do it myself, it just happens
[05:34] <d33t> basically, i want to know how to cache the rsa passwords globally
[05:34] <Doomhammer> please ubuntu gods, let my mic work !
[05:34] <fr500> d33t, hmmm got you but i have no idea
[05:34] <steve_laptop> im downloading 6.04 cd and will give that a go... Crashmaster steve is back at it again
[05:34] <d33t> heh
[05:34] <fr500> in what package can i find gtkdocize?
[05:35] <d33t> nothing i read talks about the environment being destroyed.... but it makes sense why it happens
[05:35] <d33t> i thought i saw reference to a way to make it not die, but i can't find anything on it
[05:35] <d33t> i do use keychain which i thought was suposed to do what i need, but no luck.....
[05:36] <d33t> and i have the chared keys all set up and working........
[05:36] <d33t> *shared
[05:38] <d33t> sigh, i kinda thought nobody would know, but i thought i'd ask
[05:38] <fr500> d33t, #linux?
[05:38] <d33t> perhaps
[05:39] <d33t> i like the folks in here though, so i like to pop in and ask wild questions every so often :)
[05:39] <fr500> hehe
[05:39] <nekostar> doing expert install
[05:40] <nekostar> whats the diff b/t installing linux-386 linux-image-386 and linux-image-2.6.x.x.x.x.x-386
[05:40] <Doomhammer> guys what device is the microphone? /dev/dsp?
[05:41] <cheziyi> hi, may i know if the ubuntu live-cd has the option of saving the config file to some other external storage device?
[05:42] <Doomhammer> AJDSKLJFLKDS why isn't hte buggering mic working !?!??
[05:42] <Doomhammer> hasn't SOMEONE gotten it to work that could help me out ?
[05:42] <Doomhammer> not even one person ? :(
[05:42] <steve_laptop> cheziyi, yes
[05:43] <steve_laptop> I just used it to back up by files...
[05:43] <nyersa> so I have been trying to use the ubuntu live cd but a few seconds into the boot process I get a kernel panic
[05:43] <nyersa> are there any ways that I can get a more verbose version of the boot so I can see what it is doing exactly when it panics?
[05:43] <fr500> Doomhammer, never used it sorry
[05:44] <fr500> nyersa, in grub remove the word silent when it sends kernel parameters
[05:44] <yoster> hi
[05:44] <fr500> or quiet i think it is nyersa
[05:44] <cheziyi> steve_laptop, how do i go about doing it?
[05:44] <nyersa> fr500: hmm, this is with a live cd... is that just a boot option that I would pass?
[05:44] <nyersa> sry, sort of a newb :-S
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Could someone check these and let me know what you think?: !newuser , !common .
[05:45] <fr500> nyersa, i don't really know for the live cd very sorry
[05:45] <fr500> !newuser
[05:45] <Fushi> !common
[05:45] <jariep1__> how many visitors does wikipedia average a month?
[05:45] <fr500> !common
[05:46] <fr500> tonyyarusso, common didnt work for me
[05:46] <cheziyi> steve_laptop, how do i go about doing it?
[05:46] <Fushi> worked for me o.o
[05:46] <tonyyarusso> fr500, Try them in a pm, they're kind of long.
[05:47] <tonyyarusso> And wait a bit, since it may take a moment to show up right now.
[05:47] <fr500> tonyyarusso, how?
[05:47] <steve_laptop> cheziyi, I pluiged in my usb harddrive witch is formated as ext3 and it was on the desktop opened it and saved what ever I waned... the live cd is a os on disk loads up on your ram
[05:48] <tonyyarusso> fr500, /msg ubotu common (One of the things explained in !newuser, actually.)
[05:48] <fr500> i know but it didnt work
[05:48] <cheziyi> but what about custon configs, say, like firefox or ubuntu itself?
[05:48] <Fushi> !newuser
[05:49] <steve_laptop> cheziyi, im not understanding are you trying to save your setting for the next time you boot to it?
[05:49] <fr500> tonyyarusso, they are fine
[05:50] <ljlolel> hello
[05:50] <ljlolel> i'm having trouble getting ubuntu to recognize my network card, how do i force it to look for a network card?
[05:51] <d33t> wow, fr500, you weren't kidding
[05:51] <d33t> those guys over in #linux know their stuff
[05:51] <d33t> problem solved in like 10 seconds
[05:51] <d33t> heh
[05:51] <fr500> d33t, yeah they are real deal
[05:52] <d33t> indeed
[05:52] <fr500> d33t, kinda long in th tooth though
[05:52] <steve_laptop> ljlolel, are you tring to install a wireless network?
[05:52] <d33t> i feel so small
[05:52] <ljlolel> no, it's an ethernet card
[05:52] <ljlolel> to be honest, i did a dist-upgrade to drake
[05:52] <ljlolel> dapper
[05:52] <ljlolel> didn't go completely smoothly after i rebooted
[05:53] <newuser> looking for help config*ing pppoe.
[05:53] <steve_laptop> wow that should have been detected on the install... whats ifconfig showing you
[05:53] <ljlolel> just lo
[05:53] <koruptidPryde> where does Gnome keep its settings for theme? cause I managed to set it from Human to something else and whatever it was didn't work right... now I can't run any apps
[05:53] <ljlolel> eth0 is not there
[05:54] <fr500> steri,  diss upgrades break things sometimes
[05:54] <Doomhammer> WOOOOOOOOOT ! mic WORKS !
[05:54] <Doomhammer> note to everyone: if mic doesn't work, enable "Full duplex" in the control center
[05:54] <pc09> anyone know how to install gunbound in ubuntu?
[05:54] <ljlolel> Doomhammer, can you put that in the wiki for everyone?
[05:55] <steve_laptop> I'm unable to help much wright now do to me killing my install
[05:55] <fr500> pc09, doesnt work at all because of gameguard
[05:55] <ejofee> why can't i find glade-sharp in any repo?
[05:55] <ljlolel> i guess i'll just reinstall dapper from scratch
[05:55] <Refrie1> hello sirs... i just installed ubuntu on a new machine, and installed several packages including going from 386 to 686-smp kernel, but now gnome doesn't load when i log in (gnome splash/loading window doesn't come up), failsafe session is the same.  i'm not sure what to do, short of reinstalling, which i guess wouldn't be the end of the world since it's a fresh install..... *ponder*
[05:55] <spine> did u try startx
[05:56] <Refrie1> nope, i'm in gdm.  but i can try
[05:56] <Doomhammer> ljolel: sure
[05:56] <steve_laptop> ljlolel, thats what im going to do in the morning
[05:56] <cr1mson> How do I play .asx windows media files with Ubuntu?
[05:56] <Refrie1> spine: x starts fine, i just never reach the gnome desktop
[05:56] <koruptidPryde> anybody have any idea where to look?
[05:57] <fr500> !tell cr1mson about w32codecs
[05:57] <Refrie1> cr1mson: cat it, and get the real address out of it
[05:57] <Refrie1> cr1mson: .asx is just a playlist, not a video file (right?)
[05:57] <ljlolel> cr1mson, vlc media player plays a lot of stuff
[05:57] <pc09> fr500, oh thnx now it's a big problem
[05:57] <cr1mson> Refrie1, I'm not sure, it's streaming video
[05:57] <fr500> Refrie1, it's the fie
[05:58] <Refrie1> yeah, x is fine.. just dunno where to look for info about where gnome is hanging
[05:58] <cr1mson> Refrie1, how do I cat it?
[05:58] <koruptidPryde> anybody know where to look to manually change the theme via command console?
[05:58] <Refrie1> "cat   <thefile>"
[05:59] <ljlolel> Refrie1, /etc/init.d/gdm start ?
[06:00] <cr1mson> will mplayer work as windows media player?
[06:00] <cheziyi> steve_laptop, yes, i'm trying to save my config for he next time i boot it
[06:00] <Refrie1> ljlolel: no, gdm is running fine too, it's _after_ i log in that nothing happens
[06:00] <ljlolel> oh, i had that once, it sucked, i reinstalled :(, but someone better at this may be able to help  you
[06:00] <jn> cr1mson: if u have all codecs installed
[06:01] <Refrie1> ljlolel:  *nod* thanks anyway though
[06:01] <steve_laptop> cheziyi, i dont have a clue for i have never used it that way, only for recovery
[06:02] <Travis_> has anyone considered making a server version of edubuntu? with like ldap, a student information system, samba domain controller etc.? for schools to use on their server?
[06:02] <ljlolel> cr1mson, vlc is very small, portable, incredibly function, i highly recommend it
[06:02] <ljlolel> functional
[06:02] <cr1mson> ljlolel, how do i install vlc?
[06:03] <ljlolel> Dr_Willis, lol
[06:03] <cr1mson> i used synaptic but cant find it
[06:03] <Dr_Willis> ive only found a few video files it couldent play right
[06:03] <ljlolel> sudo apt-get install vlc
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> !info vlc
[06:04] <ubotu> vlc: (multimedia player for all audio and video formats), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.8.4-svn20050920-3+hal0ubuntu3 (breezy), Packaged size: 5817 kB, Installed size: 13740 kB
[06:04] <cr1mson> vlc is installed, i just cant find it
[06:04] <cr1mson> the executable
[06:04] <ljlolel> oh
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> type 'vlc' :P
[06:04] <MickMcMack> Type vlc.
[06:04] <ljlolel> it's in my sound&video menu
[06:04] <bjv> if anyone knows how to read ppp.log  :\
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> or i right click on the video and select open with. (or whatever its called)
[06:04] <ljlolel> you can edit the menu to add vlc, the command is vlc as people said
[06:04] <Dr_Willis> since often they default to totem.
[06:04] <cr1mson> oh hehe, how can i run it by default for media files?
[06:05] <ejofee> why can't i find glade-sharp in any repo?
[06:05] <Dr_Willis> cr1mson,  i find it easier to use the 'open with' menu thing - some videos often run better in the different players.
[06:05] <fr500> cr1mson, right click and properties, there is an associations part i think
[06:06] <talios> hey cr1mson
[06:06] <cr1mson> talios, yeah?
[06:06] <koruptidPryde> great... the one night I'm on where nobody has an idea
[06:07] <lysis_> what's wrong korpios
[06:07] <lysis_> koruptidPryde,
[06:07] <gahan> hi
[06:07] <gahan> ubuntu is divided to stable and unstable?
[06:07] <lysis_> gahan, correct.
[06:07] <talios> cr1mson, ewps my bad, crimsun :)
[06:07] <lysis_> we obviously will recommend going the stable route. =)
[06:07] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, open with thing will be okay, how do i use vlc to do that for .asx
[06:07] <gahan> stable is Breezy - 5.10 afaik, how about unstable? whats the codename, does it have any ver already?
[06:08] <koruptidPryde> lysis_: I was changing some settings for my theme... picked the wrong widget selection (can't remember what the actual name for what it is is called) and now if I start any application that uses scrollbars it instantly crashes
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cr1mson,  could always run vlc and drag/drop :p
[06:08] <Dr_Willis> cr1mson,  i dont think i have a single .asx video file
[06:08] <tonyyarusso> !tell gahan about dapper
[06:08] <Doomhammer> why is it that running "artsdsp -m <some program>" creates a MASSIVE amount of lag in the sound ?
[06:08] <Doomhammer> i actually hear the sound several seconds after it's supposed to be played
[06:08] <RockyBurt|Zzz> hm, whats the default cpu frequency manager for breezy badger? powernowd? cpudynd?
[06:08] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, if vlc plays .asx files then i could associate it?
[06:09] <gahan> thank you
[06:09] <alpha> which program will get me the same video quality as media player but for linux?
[06:09] <Dr_Willis> cr1mson,  of course. :P this is linux.. ya cn do anything.
[06:09] <Doomhammer> alpha: for playing any type of media, i reccommend VLC
[06:09] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, i know i love it... about the associate thing... how?
[06:09] <alpha> Doomhammer, what about VLCs GUI.. is that "good"?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> cr1mson,  no clue. i rarely double click on things like that to run stuff.
[06:10] <Doomhammer> alpha: it's pretty easy to use, but it's not quite as flashy (and, in my opinion, ugly) as Media Player
[06:10] <ejofee> why can't i find glade-sharp in any repo?
[06:10] <Mevagh> hi, is there a limited number of partitions i can have on my sata drive? i couldn't make more than 4 primary parts with gparted and couldn't figure out how to make an extended part. then i tried with disk drake and made more parts but now in the ubuntu installer, i can't see the partition table at all ???
[06:10] <cr1mson> im trying to play a stream from the web, all i know its a .asx windows media file
[06:10] <Elsan_> Does anyone have internet here?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> as for vlc's gui.. ya start a video hit full screen and watch it. :P  heh ...
[06:10] <Elsan_> :D
[06:10] <TokenBad> anyone know how to get xchat to autoget dcc files?
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> actually the vlc interface is ok.. and its themeable.
[06:10] <Dr_Willis> also vlc is out for windows. so ya can use it on a windows box as well.
[06:10] <Doomhammer> alpha: it's pretty small, around 10MB ... try it, and see what you think :)
[06:10] <ejofee> Mevagh: do you still see them in diskdrake?
[06:11] <Doomhammer> vlc rocks :)
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> Mevagh, I think you might be limited to 4 primary.  Try making logicals.
[06:11] <ljlolel> alpha, vlc looks pretty nice on windows
[06:11] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, im trying to breakaway from windows :)
[06:11] <Dr_Willis> and stream the videos from one vlc box to another
[06:11] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, it works with windows
[06:11] <Doomhammer> Dr_Willis: assuming you're on a LAN, that wouldn't work over dialup lol
[06:11] <Refrie1> ljlolel: a dead sun website cached in google told me to run bonobo-slay, and then i could log in again
[06:11] <cr1mson> dialup.. eewwww
[06:11] <Doomhammer> lol
[06:12] <Refrie1> i hope it doesn't happen next boot
[06:12] <cappicard> Dr_Willis: vlc is flaky on my XP installation. It causes my box to spontaneously reobot
[06:12] <alpha> Doomhammer, how do i download it? i tried the apt-get method but it gives me an error
[06:12] <lightdifference> hi, I kinda forgot to run the breezy update with sudo, what will that do? do I need to rerun it?
[06:12] <mark_> how do i enable tv out for an ati 128 rage pro card?
[06:12] <carmen_> hello
[06:12] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, its a hypertext link i click on to open the file
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> How can I make mplayer actually go fullscreen, rather than making the window bigger while keeping the video the same?
[06:12] <Mevagh> tonyyarusso, can i install onto logicals? (ie. use them as / ) and how do i make them?
[06:12] <cappicard> tonyyarusso: just hit F
[06:12] <ejofee> Mevagh: afaik: (1) you can create up to four physical partitions (of which one could be the extended one). (2) you can create up to 32 logical partitions on the extended partition.
[06:13] <cappicard> Mevagh: I got linux purring on logical partitions
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> cappicard, That does what I don't want.
[06:13] <cr1mson> i guess i can type in the entire link with vlc if that works
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Mevagh, Probably.
[06:13] <carmen_> I have a laptop. how do I get the infrared configured?
[06:13] <lightdifference> will not running the installer with sudo do anything strange?
[06:13] <Mevagh> alrighty.. how do i do logical then??
[06:13] <Refrie1> cappicard: "now how do i get it out of full screen?  i can't see you"
[06:14] <ejofee> Mevagh: you can install gnu-linux on logicals. you can't install bsd or windows, though. that is, it is not likely it would ever boot.
[06:14] <cappicard> Refrie1: LOL
[06:14] <Refrie1> :)
[06:14] <cappicard> ejofee: Linux boots just fine on logical partitions.
[06:14] <alpha> How do i get more skins for VLC?
[06:14] <fr500> lightdifference, probably wont install
[06:14] <cappicard> linux is not as picky as BSD
[06:15] <fr500> is there anything like finale for music composition for linux systems
[06:15] <cappicard> I know BSD refuses to install on logical partitions
[06:15] <fr500> gnome based
[06:15] <ejofee> cappicard: this is just what i was saying.
[06:15] <Refrie1> what's the fastest way to fix grub after my upcoming install of windows, ubuntu cd, chroot, and rerun it?
[06:15] <tonyyarusso> !tell Refrie1 about grub
[06:15] <Mevagh> ejofee, good.. i'll only be using logical for linux, if i need windows it'll be staying on a separate drive anyway.
[06:15] <yatesy> Refrie1: pretty much yup
[06:15] <Mevagh> but how do i make an extended partition? which program should i use?
[06:16] <lightdifference> fr500: it's installing, I'm just seeing "couldn't delete old directory" and stuff like that pop up.
[06:16] <ejofee> Mevagh: gparted
[06:16] <cr1mson> Dr_Willis, i opened the .asx file its just choppy and no video but the time length of the video is correct
[06:16] <nick_> Release keys to continue! :((((
[06:16] <koruptidPryde> does anyone know how to change the gnome controls selection via command-line?
[06:17] <ejofee> Mevagh: "sudo gparted", of course.
[06:17] <ejofee> Mevagh: (supposing you're using standard (k)ubuntu)
[06:17] <fr500> koruptidPryde, maybe there is .gnomesoemthing file man
[06:17] <koruptidPryde> fr500: I've been looking
[06:17] <TokenBad> anyone know how to get xchat to auto accept dcc files?
[06:18] <koruptidPryde> fr500: but none of them seem to have what I am looking for
[06:18] <fr500> hmmm
[06:18] <WednesDaY> hello
[06:18] <Mevagh> ejofee, yep.. i will be. no OS installed atm tho. will have to run a live cd
[06:18] <cr1mson> it sounds like im fast forwarding an audio tape
[06:18] <cr1mson> :(
[06:19] <carmen_> I have a laptop. how do I get the infrared configured?
[06:19] <fr500> cr1mson, honestly i'd install xine, totem-xine and w32codecs
[06:19] <cappicard> http://saiya-jin.is-a-geek.com/fstab  :)
[06:19] <ejofee> use (k)ubuntu live, then. you can also use mandriva live or pclinuxos, if you prefer diskdrake.
[06:19] <cappicard> I use mplayer with w32codecs here
[06:19] <cr1mson> fr500, thanks, i'll try that
[06:19] <alpha> How can i install VLC skins?
[06:20] <twitch101> whats the command to instal a /deb file
[06:20] <twitch101> *.deb
[06:20] <WednesDaY> can someone help me with a video card problem?
[06:20] <alpha> dpkg -i <deb file>
[06:20] <WednesDaY> well actually i had an idea and waswondering if someone knew if it would work
[06:20] <fr500> WednesDaY, just ask
[06:20] <dcode> so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM, I don't have use of my keybard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[06:20] <dcode> *keyboard
[06:20] <WednesDaY> alrighty, thanks
[06:21] <Mevagh> thanks for ur help... i'll be back later if i'm still haveing trouble
[06:21] <ejofee> Mevagh: use (k)ubuntu live, then. you can also use mandriva live or pclinuxos, if you prefer diskdrake.
[06:21] <cr1mson> sounds like a real mouse lol
[06:21] <Wes> hey pplz
[06:21] <WednesDaY> see i have a sapphire radeon 9550 and a biostar m7ncd pro that uses the nforce 2 chipset right
[06:21] <ljlolel> alpha, it looks like you run vlc -I skins
[06:21] <ljlolel> alpha, after downloading the skins fro here: http://www.videolan.org/vlc/skins.html
[06:21] <ljlolel> instructions are there too
[06:22] <WednesDaY> well the radeon would never work in that board, but would work in everything else, and other cards would work in it, etc, it turned out the 9550 i have isnt compatible with the nforce 2 right
[06:22] <cr1mson> fr500, whats the apt-get install command for xine?
[06:22] <adub> mozilla is not letting me use it because it says profile default is already in use??  what can i do??
[06:22] <WednesDaY> well iw as wondering if flashing my 9550 to a 9600 would fix that incompatibility?
[06:22] <nick_> How come my computer cannot even initialize ubuntu from the live cd goddamnit
[06:22] <cr1mson> fr500, xine doesnt work :(
[06:22] <fr500> cr1mson, why?
[06:22] <ljlolel> nick_, did you set the bios to boot from cds?
[06:23] <nick_> Well, I get the ubuntu start up screen and everything.
[06:23] <elektro> WTF, a "WES" in Tampa, FL?!!!
[06:23] <cr1mson> fr500, it says Package xine is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[06:23] <fr500> cr1mson, try apt-get install totem-xine it will fetch the rest for you
[06:23] <cr1mson> fr500, ok
[06:23] <nick_> it just stops completely after it says "RELEASE KEYS TO CONTINUE!"
[06:23] <Wes> lol bots
[06:23] <ljlolel> weird
[06:23] <Wes> hey, I'm having some issues getting ubuntu booted up on my system
[06:24] <_ian_> this is weird...when i logged in just now.... my rersolution is at 640X 480 and it is not pleasant....i went to the display setting but it is the only option available why is this?
[06:24] <nick_> hey I fail at the internet.
[06:24] <alpha> ljlolel, thx mate
[06:24] <hyphenated> hmm, for touchpad sensitivity, I installed tpconfig and edited /etc/default/tpconfig to have OPTIONS="--tapmode=0" as the setting there. seems to be better now
[06:24] <Wes> mainly, after I log in the ubuntu loading screen thingy glitches up and loading stops
[06:24] <Wes> the cursor doesn't, though
[06:24] <Wes> kinda strange :/
[06:24] <ljlolel> alexandros, here to help
[06:24] <ljlolel> alpha,
[06:25] <bjv> if anyone speaks ppp.log fluently :\
[06:25] <elektro> I know some1 named Wes in that aread
[06:25] <elektro> area*
[06:25] <cr1mson> fr500, i ran into a problem with totem, its telling me there were no decoders.  i had the same problem with .mp3 files earlier but thankfully, i fixed that one
[06:25] <fr500> cr1mson, you need w32codecs
[06:26] <Wes> I'm not exactly in Tampa
[06:26] <elektro> i c
[06:26] <fr500> !tell cr1mson about w32codecs
[06:26] <Wes> over in pinellas
[06:26] <Xenguy> bjv: weird error
[06:26] <cr1mson> fr500, i'll try the codecs
[06:26] <ljlolel> brianna satinoff
[06:26] <elektro> Did u ever do phone tech support?
[06:26] <Xenguy> bjv: have you tried google? (not sure it would be an easy search tho)
[06:26] <bjv> Xenguy: yeah, ive been searching for it
[06:27] <WednesDaY> well yeah, i was thinking that might work....the 9600's work on this board i think, but not the 9550....
[06:27] <Wes> nah
[06:27] <WednesDaY> id like to use the good board sine i got 2 sticks of 512 now and can do dual channel
[06:27] <bjv> Xenguy:  got a fair ammount of results with   sent LCP ConfReq  "last message repeated" 9 "times"    on yahoo
[06:27] <Xenguy> bjv: you probably need an advanced search of some kind.  Maybe your ISP could help too?
[06:27] <WednesDaY> this board is ancient and has like usb 1, agp 4, etc....thats what im stuck on now
[06:27] <Doomhammer> how do you start arts from the command line ?
[06:27] <eugman> Will reinstalling a package clear my previous settings?
[06:28] <bjv> Xenguy: well, it's late on a weekend.  i will definitely be asking them come monday
[06:28] <cr1mson> fr500, that says can play windows media video.. that sounds promising
[06:28] <fr500> it works fine 4 me
[06:28] <ljlolel> eugman, no
[06:28] <Xenguy> bjv: good luck; these things always get solved eventually, just a matter of time
[06:28] <ljlolel> eugman, not usually
[06:28] <eugman> Even if the package manage thinks it's installing for the first time?
[06:29] <dcode> so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM, I don't have use of my keyboard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[06:29] <ljlolel> eugman, when you uninstall it leaves config files, which it won't overwrite without asking you
[06:29] <bjv> Xenguy: yeah, im trying to stick too it. :|
[06:29] <mgcross> is the english ubuntu forum down...I can't reach it....
[06:29] <bjv> Xenguy: the connection is dialed right now through a windows machine
[06:29] <bjv> Xenguy: id really like to pitch it out though, and concentrate my wireless gateways and ppp on one box
[06:29] <ljlolel> mgcross, look at the top
[06:30] <WednesDaY> well um....can someone recommend me an IRC room that would help me with my video card?
[06:30] <Xenguy> bjv: linux makes a better gateway IMO
[06:30] <bjv> yeah, and it's kind of silly to use an entire windows 2000 server just to operate a winmodem :\
[06:30] <mgcross> ljlolel: sorry.....
[06:30] <nyersa> WednesDaY: whats going on with it?
[06:30] <eugman> ok. Now the packages are installed but synaptic doesn't know that. It will only overwrite files needed to run not config files correct?
[06:31] <ljlolel> mgcross, lol  it's okay, i barely saw it myself :)
[06:31] <WednesDaY> well this card doesnt work with my nforce 2 board and id like to use the nforce board....this one is crap, but its incompatible with 9550's, i was wondering if flashing my card to a 9600 would fix the incompatibility
[06:33] <elektro> Wed, u want to flash the VIdeo card to different model to make it work with the Mobo?
[06:33] <KoruptidPryde> anybody know how to change the gnome theme without gnome-theme-manager? I accidentally picked a set of broken controls and now I can't run any applications that have scrollbars in them
[06:33] <nyersa> WednesDaY: if you disable onboard video does it make it work?
[06:33] <fr500> cr1mson, works?
[06:34] <WednesDaY> the good nforce board doesnt have onboard....yes, a lot of people flash the 9550 to overclock it since all 9550 is is a scaled down 9600
[06:34] <WednesDaY> i was wondering it flashing it to a 9600 would get it to be compatible on the nforce 2
[06:34] <cr1mson> fr500, not yet, i followed the directions on that website and it says the files are installed, now what
[06:34] <bjv> Xenguy: !    yahoo indicates that the problem may be the line where i sent  '^m'
[06:34] <fr500> cr1mson, open the file with totem-xine
[06:34] <bjv> Xenguy: i do not know enough about ppp though, do you know where i could find and eliminate that line?
[06:34] <fr500> cr1mson, did you dpkg the deb?
[06:35] <cr1mson> fr500, yes
[06:35] <fr500> bjv, you can't skip LCPs
[06:35] <olrs> hey all, having a problem with the ubuntu 5.10 LiveCD, anyone got a sec to help me out?
[06:35] <bjv> is that what sending the line   ^m   does?
[06:35] <cr1mson> fr500, still no decoder
[06:36] <bjv> from yahoo:    ">Nov 26 11:51:57 localhost chat[2173] : send (^M)
[06:36] <bjv>                        and there is your error. You triggered the ISP into a text mode, but your ISP hasn't configured it."
[06:37] <bjv> excerpt from a mailing list. responded with:    It now works a charm.
[06:37] <bjv> :\
[06:37] <Wes> anyone free for a nice round of tech support?
[06:37] <Wes> >_______>
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> olrs, Just ask about it and see.
[06:37] <KoruptPryde> I'm sorry.... could whoever said something to me last say it again.... my xterm seems to be allergic to irssi
[06:37] <fr500> cr1mson, try apt-get install xine-ui and try opening with xine
[06:38] <WednesDaY> wow its pretty busy in here lol
[06:38] <tim> how do i make a desktop shortcut so that a shell command runs silently?
[06:38] <cr1mson> fr500, just a sec, im gonna try mplayer
[06:38] <tim> i want a shortcut that runs "wine ~/Winamp/winamp.exe"
[06:38] <fr500> cr1mson, mplayer's gui sucks
[06:38] <cr1mson> fr500, greeeeat
[06:38] <ljlolel> tim, right click the top, and make a custom application launcher
[06:38] <olrs> My LiveCD is hanging at "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System..."  this is on a Compaq Presario X1000 laptop
[06:38] <KoruptPryde> does anyone know how to change gnome's theme without using gnome-theme-manager?
[06:39] <_ian_> anyone who can help me out.....my resolution is at 640X480 i dont have other options than that
[06:39] <tim> ljlolel, thx
[06:39] <ljlolel> tim, not a problem
[06:39] <ljlolel> _ian_, did you see what your /etc/X11/xorg.conf says?
[06:39] <cr1mson> fr500, okay, i'll try the xine-ui
[06:39] <fr500> cr1mson, xine-ui is fine
[06:40] <WednesDaY> hey ian,
[06:40] <WednesDaY> do you have an ati video card?
[06:41] <cr1mson> fr500, okay, how do i launch xine?
[06:41] <cr1mson> nm, i got it
[06:41] <_ian_> wait im at the file now xorg.conf what do i need to look for?
[06:41] <bosewicht> anyone know where ubuntu installs imagemagick?
[06:42] <ljlolel> _ian_, somewhere down it shoud list all of the resolutions the monitor should be able to get
[06:42] <ljlolel> it seems like yours has been limited to only 640x480
[06:42] <pder> is it necessary to have a computer to use ubuntu?
[06:42] <cr1mson> fr500, thanks, it worked
[06:42] <_ian_> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/517125
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> How can I get the screensavers that are greyed out in the list?
[06:42] <cyphase> http://www.songtapper.com/
[06:43] <elektro> pder, no
[06:43] <fr500> cr1mson, still confused on why it didnt work
[06:43] <ljlolel> _ian_, hm that's really weird
[06:43] <cr1mson> fr500, me too, now i need it to automatically open when i launch it from the browser, i had to manually open it
[06:43] <ljlolel> _ian_, and restarting gnome doesn't work?
[06:43] <cr1mson> fr500, xine wasnt an option
[06:43] <_ian_> im sorry but honestly i cant understand it...
[06:44] <_ian_> wait...im uysing kde
[06:44] <fr500> cr1mson, it should be under associations just right clic the file properties and create a custom command that reads xine
[06:44] <_ian_> im on kde*
[06:44] <cr1mson> fr5 okay
[06:44] <ljlolel> _ian_, oh, restarting kde or your computer entirely didn't work?
[06:44] <elektro> I have a question, to update from Hoary to Breezy, can I use Synaptic or do I need to get the CD images?
[06:44] <_ian_> well this happend when i restarted my pc
[06:44] <_ian_> about 20 mintues ago
[06:44] <fr500> elektro, look in the wiki, you don't need cds
[06:45] <_ian_> ok ill try it again
[06:45] <ljlolel> _ian_, oen sec
[06:45] <ljlolel> do ctrl+alt+backspace
[06:45] <olrs> My LiveCD is hanging at "Starting Enterprise Volume Management System..."  this is on a Compaq Presario X1000 laptop, anybody got any ideas?
[06:45] <ljlolel> that'll restart kde
[06:45] <elektro> fr500 thanks
[06:45] <cr1mson> fr500, file properties of the asx file?
[06:46] <fr500> yes
[06:46] <cr1mson> fr500, i did that and when i launch it the only option on there was mplayer
[06:46] <fr500> but there is a custom command part below
[06:46] <cr1mson> fr500, ill look
[06:47] <cr1mson> fr500, im lost, it says custom icon
[06:47] <onlywil> does kubuntu support multi processor?
[06:47] <WednesDaY> man
[06:48] <fr500> cr1mson, properties open with-add-custom command?
[06:48] <WednesDaY> i wonder if i should just try this
[06:48] <WednesDaY> and see what happens
[06:48] <bjv> well if anyone can see what is awry with my ppp log, http://sial.org/pbot/15551  send /msg bjv or something
[06:48] <pder> does ubuntu support input devices?
[06:48] <bjv> ill stay connected for another few minutes, on the off chance a ppp guru or something wanders by. :\
[06:48] <bjv> then it's back to randomly trying the modem... :\
[06:48] <onlywil> i have a proliant ml370 server and it only shows one processor how do i get it to see both
[06:48] <hepmeeee> after I log in, the graphics on the loading screen glitch up and the environment stops loading. I can still use the mouse though. Any ideas about how to fix this?
[06:49] <fr500> bjv, try #linux
[06:49] <cr1mson> fr500, properties off the downloaded .asx file i downloaded to the desktop
[06:49] <bjv> fr500: asked abit there, they were pretty off topic/dead
[06:49] <cr1mson> fr500, firefox obviously doesnt recongize it
[06:50] <bjv> also tried ##networking and #hardware :P
[06:50] <onlywil> still wondering if kubuntu support multi processor
[06:50] <fr500> cr1mson, yes properties of the downloaded file
[06:50] <crimsun_> onlywil: that's the kernel's realm, and yes, it does
[06:50] <cr1mson> fr500, there is an open-with tab that makes sense but that didnt work
[06:50] <onlywil> thx crimson
[06:50] <yoyo> hi everyone
[06:50] <stormshadow> hi, goodnight everyone
[06:51] <yoyo> uuuhhh... i was wondering about w32codecs...
[06:51] <fr500> cr1mson, in open with select add
[06:51] <cr1mson> onlywil, what'd i do? :)
[06:51] <WednesDaY> this things drivin me nuts
[06:51] <cr1mson> fr500, i did that already
[06:51] <yoyo> does anyone here know about them?
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> In xscreensaver, there are screensavers listed that are not installed.  How can I install them?
[06:51] <stormshadow> Hi there, does anyone knows about a good windows emulator so i can run office in order to do my hwk :S
[06:51] <tonyyarusso> !tell yoyo about w32codecs
[06:51] <cr1mson> fr500, maybe i have to open a new firefox hole on
[06:51] <onlywil> cr1msom , the other crinsum
[06:51] <yoyo> stormshadow... openoffice doesn't work?
[06:52] <cr1mson> onlywil, oh, my bad :)
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> stormshadow, Why won't OpenOffice do that for you?
[06:52] <fr500> cr1mson, works for me
[06:52] <yoyo> tonyyarusso... is it true w32codecs are supported only for debian?
[06:52] <onlywil> cr1nsom, lol
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> yoyo, Supported?  No idea.  Am I using them without problems?  Yes.
[06:52] <fr500> cr1mson, no firefox at all
[06:53] <onlywil> crinsum, i got some question on how to get my kubuntu server to see the 9other process any ideas?
[06:53] <stormshadow> because my teacher uses .pdf format. And she wanted us to add it to our hwk thingy. And since i can't use my .pdf/word convrsor
[06:53] <cr1mson> fr500, yeah that works
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> stormshadow, a) What do you mean "add it"?
[06:53] <crimsun_> onlywil: more context, please?
[06:53] <trym> does anyone have an UML editor that supports UML 2 to recommend?
[06:53] <fr500> ok
[06:54] <cr1mson> fr500, ack.. it thinks its a plain text document and cant delete the text editor so i can just click it
[06:54] <cgentry72> I have my own website hosted by someone else but I want to host it myself.  so far I have Apache Http server, PHP4, MYSql, DHCP but how do I get all this to work?
[06:54] <iantec> for some odd reason it is ok now....i just restarted...thats weird...what could lead to that?
[06:54] <onlywil> crinsum, i have a proliant ml370 server and installed kubuntu on it.  it is only seeing one processor.  I went into the system config after the install and changed the os type to linux,,, my bad,, i should have done that before i installed
[06:55] <crimsun_> onlywil: what cpus?
[06:55] <onlywil> crinsun, 2 pentium 3 800
[06:55] <crimsun_> onlywil: then you need to ``sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp''
[06:55] <cgentry72> or does anyone have a place for me to find this information?
[06:55] <hepmeeee> after I log in, the graphics on the loading screen glitch up and the environment stops loading. I can still use the mouse though. Any ideas about how to fix this?
[06:55] <fr500> cr1mson, you lost me
[06:55] <cr1mson> fr500, i did find out its a Microsoft ASF video file (asx)
[06:56] <sethk> cgentry72, that is a rather general question
[06:56] <WednesDaY> is there an irc channel for hardware related help?
[06:56] <varsendagger> hello how do i burn an iso to disk?   i
[06:56] <sethk> cgentry72, you start and configure apache, of course.  php is part of the apache configuration, primarily.
[06:56] <cr1mson> fr500, when i click the asx file it tries to load it as a text file so i have to tell it to manual open it with xine
[06:56] <yoyo> yeahhh ok.... mmm about xmms vs totem...?
[06:56] <sethk> cgentry72, dhcp has nothing to do with web servers
[06:56] <onlywil> crinsum, sorta new to linux, I windows tech for the last 8 years
[06:56] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  under linux? i tend to use k3b. under windows i tend to use 'burn at once'
[06:56] <pder> is it possible to use a computer system?
[06:56] <cgentry72> understood, I guess what I am trying to figure out is, when it asks for my nameserver, what do I put in?
[06:56] <varsendagger> Dr_Willis, where am i ?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> pder,  care to rephase that
[06:57] <cr1mson> fr500, then i went to the open with tab to delete the text editor
[06:57] <varsendagger> i thought this was #ubuntu?
[06:57] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  you COULD be a window user thats trying to install uibuntu
[06:57] <varsendagger> what is windows?
[06:57] <varsendagger> anyway
[06:57] <owner> How do I install a Graphic Card on WIndows?
[06:57] <pder> Dr_Willis: well i recently purchased a computer system.  i was just curious if anyone had any experience using them
[06:57] <cgentry72> the domain name is registered with verio and it asks for DNS or name server
[06:57] <cr1mson> fr500, and it told me its a text file and instead of xine there is a Text Editor selector next to the Xine selector
[06:58] <cr1mson> fr500, hard to describe sorry
[06:58] <fr500> cr1mson, oh in the open with there is a set as default option or something
[06:58] <onlywil> crinsum, is that adept?
[06:58] <owner> how do I install Graphic Card on Linux?
[06:58] <cr1mson> fr500, yes, its Text Editor
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> pder, Aren't we all using a computer system?  What do you mean?
[06:58] <WednesDaY> what type of card is it?
[06:58] <varsendagger> there is a right click function and i am not sure if it is burning a data disk or or buring the project
[06:58] <owner> NVIDIA
[06:58] <cr1mson> fr500, but that should matter since i selected Xine
[06:58] <scott__> sorry to interrupt guys, but i need help as soon as possible with accessing my NTFS partitions through ubuntu
[06:58] <pder> tonyyarusso: maybe we are.  but are we really?
[06:58] <owner> WednesDaY: NVIDIA
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[06:59] <ubotu> rumour has it, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[06:59] <sethk> owner, take off the cover, push the board into the pci slot, screw the screw back in.
[06:59] <fr500> cr1mson, dunno man you confused me
[06:59] <stormshadow> :S
[06:59] <WednesDaY> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch04.html#installnvidiadriver this should help, owner
[06:59] <varsendagger> hey how is ATI under ubuntu?
[06:59] <hepmeeee> after I log in, the graphics on the loading screen glitch up and the environment stops loading. I can still use the mouse though. Any ideas about how to fix this?
[06:59] <hepmeeee> ._.
[06:59] <varsendagger> hey the hibernate feature in ubuntu is killer
[06:59] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  it worked supriseingly well and was easy to set up on my 2 ati box's
[07:00] <scott__> ok, thanks ubotu
[07:00] <cr1mson> fr500, i know its confusing to me too
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  even worked on my laptop with its x200m video card.
[07:00] <iantec> yeh how about ati....kinda weird reading the wiki....
[07:00] <cr1mson> fr500, i click the file and it thinks its text for some reason
[07:00] <onlywil> crinsum, do I unistall the other package?
[07:00] <owner> how come my PC can only see 600 X480 resolution? =/
[07:00] <cgentry72> sethk? sorry did u understand that?
[07:00] <fr500> cr1mson, pm me
[07:01] <sethk> cgentry72, didn't see it, try again
[07:01] <owner> how can I change my screen resolution from 600 X 480, into 1150 x 1200?
[07:01] <cgentry72> understood, I guess what I am trying to figure out is, when it asks for my nameserver, what do I put in?
[07:01] <cgentry72> the domain name is registered with verio and it asks for DNS or name server
[07:01] <WednesDaY> i dont know much about how to setup the nvidea cards....
[07:02] <ljlolel> owner, are you _ian_?
[07:02] <owner> _ian_?
[07:02] <owner> what is that?
[07:02] <iantec> nope....
[07:02] <cgentry72> I can't just put in my ip address
[07:02] <varsendagger> i am looking at a http://www.tigerdirect.com http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=1524186&CatId=1603
[07:02] <borisattva> anyone know why is ubuntuforums.org down so often lately
[07:02] <ljlolel> owner, nm, Screen REsolution changer doesn't work?
[07:02] <iantec> ljlolel...i got mine back after you said...i just restarted
[07:02] <varsendagger> Specifications
[07:02] <varsendagger> 	  GPU/VPU   	RADEON 9250
[07:02] <varsendagger> 
[07:02] <varsendagger> 	  Video Memory   	256MB
[07:02] <varsendagger> 
[07:02] <varsendagger> 	  Memory Type   	DDR
[07:02] <varsendagger> 
[07:02] <owner> ljlolel: nope.. =[
[07:02] <varsendagger> 	  Interface Type   	PCI
[07:02] <varsendagger> 
[07:02] <sethk> cgentry72, thats DNS, not DHCP.  Are you running your own DNS servers?  Remember, to have a web site and have your own DNS, you need two servers online, primary and backup, at two separate IP addresses.
[07:02] <varsendagger> 	  Connector(s)   	DVI
[07:02] <varsendagger> TV/S-Video
[07:02] <ljlolel> !pastebin
[07:02] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:02] <varsendagger> VGA
[07:03] <varsendagger> 
[07:03] <varsendagger> 	  Multiple Monitors Support   	Yes
[07:03] <varsendagger> 
[07:03] <varsendagger> ahhh sorry
[07:03] <varsendagger> i know i know !paste
[07:03] <onlywil> crinsum, thx alot for your help
[07:03] <cgentry72> right? so is there something I need to setup with DNS
[07:03] <owner> ljlolel, whats !pastebin?
[07:03] <iantec> ljlolel: does ati 9250 have the same drivers as 9550?
[07:03] <WednesDaY> well.....if anyone can help me with this radeon/nforce problem.....just pm me.....thanks
[07:03] <varsendagger> Dr_Willis, well that is the card what do you think?
[07:03] <iantec> pastebin is a site where you can paste texts from your console neatly
[07:04] <owner> ooh..
[07:04] <sethk> cgentry72, if you want to run your own primary and secondary DNS, you need to set up a DNS server on each machine.  I use djbdns.  Bind is more common, and has a ubuntu package, but it's a PITA and I don't use it.
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  what of it. :p if i was buying a New video card - i would never get an ati - to be honest.
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> !tell owner about pastebin
[07:04] <owner> anyways... I need help getting my screen resolution higher
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> !tell owner about factoid
[07:04] <Dr_Willis> when in doubt - go nvidia.
[07:05] <owner> wow.. thanks tony
[07:05] <owner> =] 
[07:05] <cgentry72> well I found bind and installing it now
[07:05] <yoyo> when maiking a kill, if a process shows <defunct>, what's the meaning?
[07:05] <yoyo> any clues?
[07:05] <sethk> cgentry72, ok.  remember, though, _two_ DNS Machines if you want to be your own DNS
[07:05] <sethk> cgentry72, two separate static IP addresses
[07:05] <varsendagger> Dr_Willis, why other than the fackt that there isn't openstandards with ati
[07:05] <owner> how do you get the screen resolution higher?
 process?
[07:06] <cgentry72> that's something else, static IP??? i know what it means but I dont have a static IP
 process?
[07:06] <Dr_Willis> varsendagger,  ati has always had more issues under linxu then nvidia..  and i dont see any benifits from using ati over nvidia
[07:06] <cr1mson> fr500, you there?
[07:06] <fr500> yeah
[07:06] <yoyo> mmmm
[07:07] <owner> so nobody can help me change my resolution? =[
[07:07] <varsendagger> Dr_Willis, i've heard that.
[07:07] <fr500> cr1mson, gonna sleep srry
[07:07] <sethk> owner, you change your resolution using the reesolution dialog in the admin menu
[07:07] <yoyo> i don't know... making ps shows the <defunct> process...
[07:07] <ljlolel> !factoid
[07:07] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[07:08] <cgentry72> that's something else, static IP??? i know what it means but I dont have a static IP
[07:08] <sethk> cgentry72, you can't run your own DNS without static IPs
[07:08] <sethk> cgentry72, if you want to run your own web server and you don't have static IPs, then you need to use one of the dynamic DNS services available
[07:08] <owner> sethk: I can't change my resolution from 600
[07:08] <yoyo> well... ok, maybe some other time
[07:08] <J-_> is ubuntu eas easy at SUSE 10 to install?
[07:08] <J-_> as*
[07:08] <cgentry72> ok is that something I can get through my internet providers?
[07:08] <owner> ubuntu don't even need CD to install
[07:08] <sethk> owner, then it either thinks your monitor is incapable of anything better, or it has misidentified your graphics card.  More likely the former.
[07:09] <J-_> it'd help if i could type lol
[07:09] <fr500> cgentry72, its kinda complex
[07:09] <cgentry72> I have heard that i can through comcast
[07:09] <owner> sethk: I use to have 2 other PCs with this monitor, and it worked fine, and this PC use to have a higher resolution with Windows XP.
[07:10] <varsendagger> hey how do i get spellcheck to work with
[07:10] <sethk> cgentry72, if comcast has a dynamic DNS service, then you can through comcast
[07:10] <varsendagger> owner you may have to reconfigure X
[07:10] <Xenguy> cgentry72: it usually costs more for a static IP
[07:10] <cgentry72> alright i can check into that then
[07:10] <cgentry72> right
[07:10] <varsendagger> i don't remember how
[07:10] <sethk> owner, it makes no difference whether windows xp knows the monitor, you are trying to change the resolution in linux.
[07:10] <Xenguy> cgentry72: but nice if you can get it
[07:10] <fr500> cgentry72, u need 2 at least
[07:10] <sethk> owner, I didn't say the monitor can't do it, I said linux thinks the monitor can't do it.
[07:10] <owner> ooh...
[07:10] <J-_> is ubuntu as easy as suse 10 to install?
[07:10] <cgentry72> alright
[07:10] <owner> yea J
[07:11] <J-_> k cool =) thx
[07:11] <owner> I never used any other linux, and I install Linux without CDs
[07:11] <TokenBad> anyone know how to get xchat to auto accept dcc files?
[07:11] <j2daosh> ok what is a decent webbrowser... one that java comes installed with or can be easily integrated into... firefox was kicking my ass in that aspect... java wouldn't install for nothing
[07:11] <owner> sethk: How do I fix that?
[07:11] <sethk> owner, I don't see what CDs have to do with it.
[07:11] <sethk> owner, well, the first thing to do is check whether I'm correct
[07:11] <Gigglesworth> Suse 10 is still pretty immature. The install bugs probably haven't gotten worked out yet.
[07:11] <owner> sethk: of what?
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, I use Firefox with Java just fine.
[07:12] <sethk> owner, go into the configuration, and see what monitor it shows.  If I'm right it will show something like "generic vga"
[07:12] <logical_mark> Hey guys whats a good GUI ftp?
[07:12] <Dr_Willis> j2daosh,  ive had no issues with firefox and java
[07:12] <d33t> gftp
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, Need some help with it?
[07:12] <sethk> owner, change it to a choice like "generic vga 1024x768" or whatever resolution it does
[07:12] <ljlolel> logical_mark, nautilus itself is an ftp client
[07:12] <Xenguy> logical_mark: there's gftp, which is adequate
[07:12] <j2daosh> i couldn't get it to install... it would constantly tell me to do it manually and that wouldn't work either
[07:12] <sethk> owner, if it has identified the monitor correctly, then we have to look at the video driver, but check the monitor first.
[07:12] <owner> sethk: how do I goto the configuration?
[07:12] <d33t> xenguy, adequate? what do you use?
[07:12] <j2daosh> so i completely uninstalled it and wanna try something that will work
[07:12] <dcode> so I'm running Kubuntu dapper, and when I load kde from KDM or startx, I don't have use of my keyboard after the splash says "Initializing Window Manager"...any clues what could cause this?
[07:13] <onlywil> crinsum_, thanks for your help it worked great
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, Okay, just don't do it through FF's dialogue.
[07:13] <sethk> owner, try adminitration/device manager
[07:13] <sethk> owner, on the system menu
[07:13] <Xenguy> d33t: I use gftp (and scp, lftp)
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, It will work.  Seriously.  Lots of people here have it.
[07:13] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:13] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:13] <j2daosh> ff's?
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> !javadebs
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, Firefox's.
[07:13] <Xenguy> d33t: I just wish the gftp interface was a little smarter
[07:13] <logical_mark> Xenguy: What do I type into console to upgrad to 5.10?
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, Get firefox back, install a javadeb, and you should be set.  If not, it's a matter of making a quick symlink.
[07:14] <Xenguy> logical_mark: there's a factoid for that IIRC
[07:14] <d33t> xenguy, i would agree with you a bit there.... it's quick though, and does what you need
[07:14] <j2daosh> lol giving me a link is pointless because right now i have no browser installed
[07:14] <fr500> Xenguy, fireftp look for it o mozilla extensios
[07:14] <ejofee> why can't i find glade-sharp in any repo?
[07:14] <Xenguy> !breezy
[07:14] <ubotu> The guide to upgrading to breezy (5.10) is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BreezyUpgrade
[07:14] <logical_mark> Xenguy: how do I use factoids?
[07:14] <onlywil> crinsum, thanks for your help
[07:14] <j2daosh> i tryed making the symlink... it wouldn't take it
[07:14] <owner> sethk: It don't let me choice anything. Just a bunch of connector
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> j2daosh, So write them down, get it back, and then go to them.
[07:14] <iantec> https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.21.7-inst.html   IS THIS APPLICABLE TO UBUNTU?
[07:15] <fr500> iantec, forget the caps
[07:15] <brad_teenbot> hey varsendagger
[07:15] <iantec> sorry pressed it accidentally
[07:15] <sethk> owner, I just checked mine.  It shows all my devices, including my graphics controller
[07:15] <RobinL> hi, where can i find a list of apps for gnome using that one special rule which name i forgot, the user interface usefulness rule or something?
[07:15] <tonyyarusso> !tell logical_mark about ubotu
[07:15] <Xenguy> fr500: I'll take a look at that FF extension, tx
[07:15] <brad_teenbot> HEY "VARSENDAGGER" ARE YOU AROUND????
[07:15] <Xenguy> grrrr
[07:15] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot,  yeah
[07:15] <owner> sethk: So its name like monitor? or what's it under
[07:16] <varsendagger> hey the car is running fine
[07:16] <fr500> iantec, should work
[07:16] <RobinL> !tell RobinL about uboty
[07:16] <RobinL> !tell RobinL about ubotu
[07:16] <brad_teenbot> how ya been
[07:16] <varsendagger> what is up y'all?
[07:16] <TokenBad> please, anyone know how to get xchat to auto accept dcc files?
[07:16] <RobinL> TokenBad: write a script :p
[07:16] <tonyyarusso> Why'd he ask and then leave?  Seriously, j2daosh.
[07:16] <elektro> goodnight
[07:16] <TokenBad> RobinL, there should be a way in xchat itself to do it
[07:16] <brad_teenbot> i still havnt got sound lol
[07:17] <varsendagger> ahhh
[07:17] <RobinL> TokenBad: yea i know i don't know where though
[07:17] <sethk> owner, if you can't get to it that way, try one of the X configuration programs.
[07:17] <owner> sethk: what would my monitor be under?
[07:17] <varsendagger> well we will see what we can do ok
[07:17] <Dr_Willis> or ask in #xchat,  or read the xchat docs :P
[07:17] <RobinL> i'm on gnome_xchat now ^^
[07:17] <RobinL> i love the interface :p
[07:17] <RobinL> xchat-gnome*
[07:17] <owner> sethk: how do I do that.. ? =[ I'm very new...
[07:17] <TokenBad> I have tried reading the docs...all I see is crap for dcc chat
[07:17] <VR823> xchat is bad mkay ^_^
[07:17] <TokenBad> not for dcc files
[07:17] <RobinL> okay
[07:17] <RobinL> well
[07:17] <RobinL> guys
[07:17] <RobinL> where can i find a list of apps for gnome using that one special rule which name i forgot, the user interface usefulness rule or something?
[07:18] <cgentry72> ok, kinda ran into a problem though - when setting mysql password I think i typed it in wrong, because i can't access mysql, any way of fixing that?
[07:18] <sethk> owner, there is an apt-get command that let's you reconfigure your graphics settings.  Anyone know it without looking it up?
[07:18] <cyphase> bit of a controversial question.. does anyone in here think Ubuntu should have parental controls?
[07:18] <sethk> cyphase, nah, I let parents use it as much as they want
[07:18] <owner> sudo apt-get resolution? =P
[07:19] <cyphase> haha sethk
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> sethk, Probably dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:19] <Gigglesworth> apt-get uninstall parental-controls
[07:19] <sethk> tonyyarusso, thank you
[07:19] <Gigglesworth> "Hey son, how'd you do that?!?!"
[07:19] <sethk> owner, did you see it?  tonyyarusso just wrote it for you
[07:19] <owner> ok
[07:19] <cyphase> Giigleswortk, the command is remove, and not if they don't have root
[07:19] <varsendagger> brad_teenbot, where'd ya go?
[07:19] <tonyyarusso> cyphase, By default, no, but maybe they should be available for that market.
[07:19] <owner> 
[07:19] <cyphase> tonyyarusso, off be default of course..
[07:20] <Gigglesworth> Dang!
[07:20] <sethk> cyphase, seriously, I think a smart kid is likely to get around them.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> Gigglesworth, That assumes the son is a sudoer.
[07:20] <owner> it says /usr/sbin/dpkg-reconfigure must be run as root
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> owner, That's correct, use sudo.
[07:20] <cyphase> sethk, that's true with most controls..
[07:21] <Gigglesworth> I've forgotten my basic apt commands. Been diving headfirst into Suseland and Solarisworld at work.
[07:21] <varsendagger> owner then type sudo before that
[07:21] <whatwhat> i sorry i having here a litle problem install javaplugin on ubuntu :x i allready make the steps from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and try to install manual from the java.com someone knwos some ideia why my mozilla-firefox ubuntu tell to me i don have the plugin when i try to use then ?
[07:21] <RobinL> where can i find a list of apps for gnome using that one special rule which name i forgot, the user interface usefulness rule or something?
[07:21] <sethk> cyphase, sure, but when you decide whether to invest a lot of effort into implementing a control, you have to consider its efficacy
[07:21] <tonyyarusso> whatwhat, You need to symlink the plugin.  (btw, javadebs are easier)
[07:22] <sethk> cyphase, on the other hand, if he hacks around it, your kid can put that on his resume  :)
[07:22] <whatwhat> tonyyarusso well i allready type whta is there ... to type and everything and the plugin apears in the plugin directory :x
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> whatwhat, Which plugin directory?  And which version of Firefox?
[07:23] <ljlolel> hello?
[07:23] <soap> hello
[07:23] <owner> it says its locked? 0_o
[07:23] <cyphase> don't make them "Parental Controls"
[07:23] <cyphase> just "Controls"
[07:23] <soap> i'm new
[07:23] <cyphase> they could be used by businesses who don't want their employees wasting time
[07:23] <tonyyarusso> Why does 'cat /etc/issue' have Ubuntu 5.10 "Breezy Badger" \n \l
[07:23] <tonyyarusso>  with those two things on the end?
[07:23] <whatwhat> tonyyarusso firefox version 1.0.7 portuguese ... home/user/.mozilla/plugins
[07:24] <ljlolel> etc/init.d/networking stop" stops networking, is there another way to do this?
[07:24] <Gigglesworth> Welcome to the wierd world of IRC and Ubuntu Soap! We're mostly friendly ehre.
[07:24] <J-_> i wonder how long it's going to take to download =D
[07:24] <cyphase> ljlolel, why do you want another way?
[07:24] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Why would it not?
[07:24] <sethk> cyphase, on the employee question, there are some studies that show that you lose any productivity gains due to loss of morale
[07:25] <ljlolel> cyphase, i'm in the middle of an install and i want to change my mac address
[07:25] <cyphase> well, that's a different issue i suppose..
[07:25] <whatwhat> tonyyarusso and try to make the same in /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plug-ins :\
[07:25] <ljlolel> cyphase, buuttt, /etc/init.d/networking doesnt exist yet
[07:25] <cyphase> ah
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, What do the \n \l mean?
[07:25] <cyphase> i don't know then
[07:25] <whatwhat> well duno :x
[07:25] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: 'man getty' - Section "ISSUE ESCAPES"
[07:26] <RobinL> where can i find a GNOME binary usenet download program?
[07:26] <frogzo0> ljlolel, mac or ip ?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Okay.
[07:26] <KoruptidPryde> does anyone know where Gnome sticks its prefrence for Application widgets????
[07:26] <soap> is there aptitude in ubuntu
[07:26] <frogzo0> korpios, usually ~/.APPNAME
[07:26] <ljlolel> frogzo0, mac
[07:26] <soap> what?
[07:26] <ljlolel> frogzo0, but i need to stop networking first
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> whatwhat, /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins , not plug-ins
[07:27] <KoruptidPryde> frogzo0: no, I mean the master selection
[07:27] <cafuego> KoruptidPryde: Usually in .gnome2
[07:27] <cafuego> KoruptidPryde: As in the theme to use?
[07:27] <Gigglesworth> Is there a command which actually shows what version of Ubuntu I'm running? It's not in the "About Ubuntu" box... not in 'uname -a', etc.
[07:27] <soap> how can i intall apache2
[07:27] <Rissa^Caem^_^> how're U????????
[07:27] <whatwhat> tonyyarusso well i put it one and in the other don work neither one or other lol
[07:27] <owner> sethk: its working, but asking me so many questions, and when I change the resolution, it doesn't do anything
[07:27] <frogzo0> Gigglesworth, it's in /etc/issue
[07:27] <KoruptidPryde> cafuego: yes, Ideleted the theme which is causing apps to crash... but it is still showing the same theme
[07:27] <cafuego> soap: sudo apt-get install apache2-mpm-prefork
[07:28] <soap> thanks
[07:28] <sethk> owner, if I had the exact same graphics board I could look at the questions with you, but I don't.
[07:28] <Rissa^Caem^_^> this is crazy
[07:28] <Gigglesworth> Excellent. Thanks. Is that a standard file on other distros?
[07:28] <cafuego> KoruptidPryde: ~/.gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml
[07:28] <iKernel> Think I should do a dist-upgrade?
[07:28] <frogzo0> Gigglesworth, standard, kind of sort of
[07:28] <logical_mark> Xenguy: I am very frustrated. Maybe you can help. gftp, the only ftp client people recomend for linux, does not transfer completely, if i tell it to move a directory that has directories under it, it will not go down into it...
[07:28] <Rissa^Caem^_^> hallo
[07:28] <Rissa^Caem^_^> ooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhh
[07:29] <Rissa^Caem^_^> no
[07:29] <Gigglesworth> Standard as standards go ;)
[07:29] <Rissa^Caem^_^> what's up????
[07:29] <cafuego> KoruptidPryde: Now, that's actually loaded by gconfd. Either after logout or use the config-editor to find the right value.
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> whatwhat, Could you say that as English?
[07:29] <Rissa^Caem^_^> I'm sorry
[07:29] <owner> sethk: lol.. true. Guess I have to try myself..
[07:29] <logical_mark> Xenguy: if that makes any sense. I will tell it to move the directory drupal, and it will take drupal and the files inside it, but if there are directories inside drupal it wont take them...
[07:29] <Rissa^Caem^_^> I don't speak English????
[07:29] <KoruptidPryde> cafuego: can't run config editor... it crashes, and logout didn't help
[07:30] <Rissa^Caem^_^> I'm people indonesian!!!
[07:30] <KoruptidPryde> cafuego: and the application theme doesn't even exist anymore
[07:30] <cafuego> KoruptidPryde: Logout, edit /.gconf/apps/metacity/general/%gconf.xml, ~/.gconf/desktop/gnome/interface/%gconf.xml and possibly ~/.gconf/%gconf-tree.xml
[07:30] <soap> aptitude in ubuntu?
[07:30] <Rissa^Caem^_^> Do U speak English????please!!!!
[07:30] <cafuego> Rissa^Caem^_^: Yes. Do you?
[07:30] <soap> I?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, So what can I use to see the issue display with those escapes expanded, rather than cat, which just shows \n \l?
[07:31] <soap> is there command 'aptitude'
[07:31] <rd0> where is the universe?
[07:31] <frogzo0> soap, apt-get usually
[07:31] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: update the issue file, switch to a tty, hit ^d  to restart that getty instance.
[07:31] <soap> oh,thanks.
[07:31] <Gigglesworth> soap: aptitude is a GUI for the package system, apt-get.
[07:31] <soap> i'm new to ubuntu
[07:31] <cafuego> rd0: everywhere
[07:31] <Rissa^Caem^_^> sorry Cafuego,I don't speak english
[07:32] <soap> i've install it just now
[07:32] <whatwhat> tonyyarusso lol im sorry im just say that like don install in one side i try to install in the other side :p and even like this nathing
[07:32] <cafuego> !id
[07:32] <ubotu> join ke #ubuntu-id untuk membahas ubuntu dalam bahasa Indonesia
[07:32] <cafuego> Rissa^Caem^_^: There is an indonesian channel...
[07:32] <Gigglesworth> Or wait, maybe aptitude isn't a GUI... but it's more friendly then the apt-* commands.
[07:32] <Rissa^Caem^_^> yeah
[07:32] <cafuego> I don't know if that's busy, though.
[07:32] <Rissa^Caem^_^> I'm kesasar
[07:32] <frogzo0> synaptic is preferable to aptitude imo
[07:33] <Rissa^Caem^_^> lo tau bahasa indonesia gak???
[07:33] <cafuego> Rissa^Caem^_^: Please use only english on #ubuntu.
[07:33] <WednesDaY> anyone in here ever had problems with radeon 9550's and nforce 2 motherboards?
[07:33] <frogzo0> Rissa^Caem^_^, -> #ubuntu-id
[07:33] <soap> what's libapr0
[07:34] <cafuego> soap: an apache2 support library
[07:34] <cafuego> !info libapr0
[07:34] <ubotu> libapr0: (the Apache Portable Runtime), section net, is optional. Version: 2.0.54-5ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 127 kB, Installed size: 316 kB
[07:34] <Rissa^Caem^_^> thank's 4 U
[07:34] <Rissa^Caem^_^> finer sekali
[07:34] <onlywil> does kubuntu support rpm's
[07:34] <frogzo0> onlywil, no
[07:34] <Gigglesworth> I'm using the default Ubuntu installation with Gnome. There's a "Add Applications" application--- is that mostly for Gnome/GTK applications? Because it isn't finding anything about Subversion or CVS.
[07:35] <soap> how to use sudo
[07:35] <Gigglesworth> !info subversion
[07:35] <ubotu> subversion: (advanced version control system (aka. svn)), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.2.0-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1255 kB, Installed size: 4728 kB
[07:35] <onlywil> frogzo0, thx
[07:35] <frogzo0> !tell soap about sudo
[07:35] <onlywil> frogzo0, i have another question if you have a second
[07:36] <frogzo0> onlywil, just ask your question & if I know it, I'll answer
[07:36] <Rissa^Caem^_^> halo!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:36] <Rissa^Caem^_^> jadi saya tidak diperhatikan nih!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[07:36] <onlywil> frogzo0, i downloaded a program from apc for my smartups ups it is a .bin file how do i run that
[07:36] <frogzo0> Rissa^Caem^_^, ------------------>     #ubuntu-id                 PLEASE
[07:37] <Rissa^Caem^_^> sudah
[07:37] <cafuego> Rissa^Caem^_^: Either speak in english or go away please.
[07:37] <Rissa^Caem^_^> yes
[07:37] <Rissa^Caem^_^> thank's
[07:37] <RobinL> where can i find a GNOME binary usenet download program?
[07:38] <nekostar> yay
[07:38] <onlywil> I downloaded a .bin file from APC.com for my smartups UPS and when I click on it nothing happens
[07:38] <frogzo0> onlywil, you might get it to run under wine, but it could be a struggle
[07:38] <nekostar> 826MB for ubuntu install so far
[07:38] <cafuego> onlywil: Run it via the Terminal.
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> That was odd.
[07:38] <onlywil> cafuego, do you know the command line to execute it?
[07:38] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, What I meant was is there some way I can print what shows up at the top of a virtual terminal through other means?
[07:39] <onlywil> frogzo0, thx
[07:39] <cafuego> onlywil: Start with sh ./download.bin
[07:39] <onlywil> cafuego, thx
[07:39] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: Hmm. Now there's a question.
[07:40] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: I have no idea
[07:40] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Maybe somehow piping getty to something else?
[07:40] <mrchicago> hello
[07:40] <mrchicago> check this out
[07:40] <mrchicago> its the next star wars kid
[07:40] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: You could try cat /dev/vcsa1
[07:40] <frogzo0> tonyyarusso, maybe check out 'script'
[07:41] <mrchicago> http://media.putfile.com/intro9951
[07:41] <mrchicago> lol
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> cafuego, Well, that works, but throws out a bunch of other nonsense too.
[07:41] <cafuego> Are you pasting click-for-cash spam into the channel?
[07:41] <cafuego> tonyyarusso: yeah, it'
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> We'll find out...
[07:41] <cafuego> s a full dump of whatever is on the console at that time
[07:42] <mrchicago> is there a way for me to read my windows patition as a normal user
[07:42] <ljlolel> okay, how do i cat the contents of  awebpage in a console
[07:42] <cafuego> !ntfs
[07:42] <ubotu> [ntfs]  the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:42] <ljlolel> like, cat www.google.com or something
[07:42] <cafuego> ljlolel: lynx -dump <url>
[07:42] <cafuego> ljlolel: Do you want the rendered version or the raw html?
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> frogzo0, Any more details you can offer on that?
[07:42] <frogzo0> ljlolel, wget is your friend
[07:43] <mrchicago> yeah i was wondering something else
[07:43] <frogzo0> tonyyarusso, man script
[07:43] <mrchicago> too why my webcam wont work
[07:43] <cafuego> Yay, beagle 0.2 :-)
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> mrchicago, That link was most definitely offtopic.
[07:44] <mrchicago> i know
[07:44] <mrchicago> lol
[07:44] <mrchicago> ah, i was bored and had nothing better to do
[07:44] <mrchicago> anywho
[07:44] <ljlolel> thank you!
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> mrchicago, Not funny to the rest of us.  Put it in #ubuntu-offtopic, or face the wrath of the ops.
[07:44] <mrchicago> yargh, okies
[07:45] <mrchicago> anywho
[07:45] <durt> the nazis are coming
[07:45] <mrchicago> i want to get my webcam to work
[07:45] <mrchicago> i installed the kernel mod
[07:45] <ljlolel> okay, so where is a page with the sources.list of ubuntu?
[07:45] <KoruptidPryde> finally got everything working again....... I had to jump into an xfce session and run the theme manager from there to do it... but I'm back and working again
[07:45] <varsendagger> durt, WTF?
[07:45] <mrchicago> but i still get there is no /dev/video0
[07:45] <gpm> hi guys. i'm trying to set up tv out with a geforce4. i followed the instructions on the ubuntu wiki for nvidia card tvout setup, but the output is all black/white, no color. any clues why?
[07:46] <TokenBad> RobinL, I found out how to set in 2.6.0 at least..
[07:47] <tonyyarusso> !tell ljlolel about sources
[07:48] <cafuego> gpm: That normally indicates you're outputting NTSC on a cheap PAL tv or vice versa.
[07:49] <Braxis> I'm having some issues with ubuntu booting to a bad resolution
[07:49] <gpm> cafuego: pretty sure it's a us tv. which pal standard should i try?
[07:49] <thechris> !evms
[07:49] <cafuego> gpm: us is NTSC
[07:49] <ubotu> evms is probably the Enterprise Volume Management System, for managing complex disk setups
[07:49] <frogzo0> Braxis, you might need to set vert & horiz refresh in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:50] <gpm> cafuego: yeah. i'm using ntsc-m
[07:50] <Braxis> frogzo0, how can I do that if I can't get to a console
[07:50] <frogzo0> Braxis, boot in recovery mode
[07:50] <danrom> hello channel
[07:50] <KoruptidPryde> cafuego, thanks for the help
[07:50] <soap> the command "apt-get" works so fast
[07:50] <soap> how does it work
[07:51] <frogzo0> Braxis, there's also terms on ctrl + alt + 1-6
[07:51] <Braxis> ?
[07:51] <danrom> I am trying to change the splash image of gnome-2 after login, can some one please provide me with a link?
[07:51] <soap> when i use debian,it's slower
[07:51] <frogzo0> Braxis, there's also terms on ctrl + alt + F1-F6
[07:51] <starscalling> eh
[07:51] <starscalling> this is rather annoying
[07:51] <starscalling> ive got a bit of a minimal install going atm
[07:52] <starscalling> but when i try to start totem it gives me this error about how something else is using the vid stream
[07:52] <starscalling> what could i be missing?
[07:52] <mrchicago> cool
[07:52] <danrom> I am trying to change the splash image of gnome-2 after login, can some one please provide me with a link?
[07:52] <mrchicago> didnt know that
[07:52] <mrchicago> um there is a program call splashscreen i think
[07:52] <mrchicago> in the repo
[07:53] <danrom> Thats for the boot i believe
[07:53] <danrom> I have read that article
[07:53] <frogzo0> starscalling, system -> preferences -> mmsystem selector -> video -> SDL   mebbe...
[07:53] <danrom> I am looking for the png that says 'ubuntu' after login
[07:53] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[07:53] <ubotu> methinks multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[07:53] <nmsa> hello
[07:54] <nmsa> someone using ipv6?
[07:54] <j2daosh> ok... reinstalled firefox... reinstalled all the plugins... java still aint working
[07:54] <soap> how to determine the domain name in apache2
[07:54] <frogzo0> !tell j2daosh about java
[07:54] <j2daosh> i can add the libjava link to the /home/josh/.mozilla/plugins directory and still nothing....
[07:56] <mcdenyer> !ati
[07:56] <ubotu> I heard ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:56] <varsendagger> ok i'm here
[07:56] <danrom> Why are the forums always down?
[07:57] <owner> I finished doing the resolution fix.. lets see if it works now =)
[07:57] <cr1mson> How do I get to the 'File Types and Programs' preferance tool?
[07:57] <mcdenyer> !atidrivers
[07:57] <ubotu> mcdenyer: Not a clue
[07:59] <iKernel> !fglrx
[07:59] <ubotu> from memory, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[07:59] <mcdenyer> wierd a wiki tut changed in the last gew hours
[07:59] <Braxis> frogzo0, how do I boot to recovery mode
[08:00] <frogzo0> Braxis, from the grub prompt
[08:00] <cafuego> Thank god it's cooled down a bit.
[08:01] <frogzo0> Braxis, but should be terminals on ctrl + alt + F1 eg
[08:01] <mcdenyer> yep a wiki changed
[08:01] <mcdenyer> wierd
[08:01] <mcdenyer> looks like it reset to and older tut too
[08:02] <mcdenyer> _jason hey u there?
[08:03] <Braxis> frogzo0, /etc/X11/xorg.conf doesn't exist
[08:03] <hellomate> newbee here need some help with ppp
[08:04] <_jason> mcdenyer: what's up?
[08:04] <hellomate> I have an old external 56k modem, and I can't get it to connect past 14k
[08:05] <mcdenyer> _jason ok you know that wiki i was looking at ealier that helps install an ati driver
[08:05] <soap> how to determine the domain name for apache
[08:05] <mcdenyer> _jason it changed...its different it changed in these last few hours its really wierd
[08:06] <soap> apache2: Could not determine the server's fully qualified domain name, using 192.168.0.1 for ServerName
[08:06] <soap> how to solve it
[08:06] <_jason> mcdenyer: you can go to 'get info' (up top) and view the older version
[08:07] <ejofee> how do i access and modify the ztext format?
[08:07] <Braxis> frogzo0, even after reconfiguring xorg it still is broken
[08:07] <mcdenyer> _jason ok well can u look at the wiki and look at step one
[08:08] <mcdenyer> _jason  i can either get 386 or 686
[08:08] <mcdenyer> _jason since i have an intel
[08:08] <mcdenyer> _jason but if you notice the ati driver at the end it has a 386 so should i install 386 or 686?
[08:08] <frogzo0> Braxis, dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[08:10] <_jason> mcdenyer: is your intel pentium 2 or greater?
[08:10] <mcdenyer> _jason greater
[08:10] <_jason> mcdenyer: then you can use 686 if you want
[08:10] <quacker> If my dapper X is broken after (because of) a dist-upgrade, will a fresh install be broken?  Can I prevent it from using the newest (broken) xorg packages?
[08:10] <mcdenyer> _jason ok but the ati driver that it has me dl has a 386 at the end
[08:10] <ljlolel> i have an athlon xp, i should use kernel k7?
[08:10] <quacker> ljlolel: yes
[08:11] <ljlolel> quacker, thank you
[08:11] <_jason> mcdenyer: probably doesn't matter
[08:11] <mcdenyer> _jason well nevermind the 386 is in the download from ati.com
[08:11] <mcdenyer> _jason ok ty for the helpo
[08:11] <quacker> ljlolel: you can still (usually) use -386 or -686 too though
[08:12] <vicks> Hi
[08:13] <vicks> Can anyone teach me about tar
[08:13] <Mevagh> arrg!! the ubuntu installer and also gparted in the ubuntu live cd can't see the partition table. I partitioned using diskdrake in pclinuxos and that can load the table... pls help
[08:13] <quacker> ljlolel: the -k7 kernel architecture has AMD specific things like 3DNow! support, whereas -386 is generic, and 686 has better SIMD support (everything has basic MMX)
[08:13] <ljlolel> !tell ljlolel about simd
[08:13] <quacker> Also powersaving stuff like OnDemand (tm) vs. PowerStep (tm)
[08:14] <ljlolel> oh
[08:14] <oldmanstan> hey, if i'm making a text file with a shell script by using the the > and >>  how would i insert a line break into the file? i tried echo \n but no good
[08:14] <frogzo0> oldmanstan, echo -e '\n'   iirc
[08:15] <quacker> ljlolel: if you're a curious sort (and interested in contributing) you can install all the kernels, test them out; and caputre & post data back to wiki.ubuntu.org
[08:15] <nekostar> eh
[08:15] <oldmanstan> thanks a bunch
[08:15] <nekostar> with no vid card whats the best driver there is
[08:15] <_jason> oldmanstan: echo needs -n to interpret those characters, so do echo -n 'blah\nblah'
[08:15] <dodobrain> hello everyone..
[08:15] <dodobrain> i'm following https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages
[08:15] <Mevagh> please.. help.. me..
[08:15] <nekostar> something better than vesa hopefuly !_!
[08:15] <dodobrain> and trying to get 1.5.x java packages
[08:15] <dodobrain> its not working.. it gives an error in synaptic :(
[08:15] <_jason> oldmanstan: my mistake, -e not -n
[08:15] <Mevagh> i don't know how to install ubuntu atm without wiping the drive
[08:15] <frogzo0> Nekos, svga   ?
[08:15] <nekostar> !tell dodobrain about restricted formats
[08:16] <oldmanstan> cool, thanks
[08:16] <_jason> dodobrain: use one of the mirrors
[08:16] <oldmanstan> anyone know why forums are down?
[08:16] <dodobrain> nekostar, err.. i got the link from ubotu!
[08:16] <dodobrain> i don;t wasnt to see the same message again :)
[08:16] <nekostar> they'll be back up soon
[08:16] <quacker> Mevagh: are you trying to dual/multi boot ubuntu with an existing o/s?
[08:16] <dodobrain> _jason, i tried all the mirrors, mirror, mirror1, mirror2, mirror3, users.lichtsnel.ml.. all of them give the error
[08:17] <dodobrain> and i have imported that key using the instructions on that page
[08:17] <_jason> dodobrain: that's strange, what error
[08:17] <Mevagh> no existing os atm.. but will have breezy, dapper, and maybe something else tri-booting once i get this partitioning going
[08:17] <quacker> dodobrain -- what's the FIRST FEW words of the (typical) error message?
[08:17] <cafuego> dodobrain: I control 2 of those mirrors, what's the error?
[08:18] <dodobrain> _jason, "Could not download all repository indexes" (title) http://users.lichtsnel.nl/~seveas/dists/breezy-seveas/Release: unable to find expected entry list_of_sections/binary/i386/Packages in meta-index file
[08:18] <dodobrain> (malformed release file?)
[08:18] <quacker> Mevagh: the Ubuntu (Debian Sarge) installer's partitioner can do everything you need if you're starting with an empty drive.
[08:19] <cafuego> dodobrain: let me a have a look...
[08:19] <Mevagh> quacker, i already have data on the drive that i will want to mount as /home so don't want to wipe the drive if at all possible
[08:20] <_jason> dodobrain: do you get that when you apt-get update or does that go smoothly?
[08:20] <quacker> cafuego -- #commenting out xorg.conf's "glcore" line does not work -- I think it's *absolutelyt* required by the new (dist-upgraded xserver)
[08:20] <Mevagh> the files are still there and i can see the partition table in pclinuxos, but there's just nothing in ubuntu :(
[08:20] <cafuego> quacker: it ought not be, as it would traditionally interfere with glx.
[08:20] <cafuego> Mine, for instance, doesn't use GLcore.
[08:21] <dodobrain> _jason, when that source (or the seveas mirrors) is in the repositories in synaptic, it givews the error
[08:21] <quacker> cafuego: don't yoiu rember that you suggested I try that (in #ubunt-offtopic) aboput three hours ago ??!
[08:21] <_jason> dodobrain: do 'sudo apt-get update'
[08:21] <thechris> Mevagh: fdisk -l
[08:21] <cafuego> quacker: I do remember.
[08:21] <quacker> Mevagh: the installer's partitioner will allow you to mount /home WITHOUT formating the drive -- jsut pay attention
[08:21] <dodobrain> _jserr.. same error from cmdline.. i _am_ running it as root
[08:22] <dodobrain> _jason, ^
[08:22] <_jason> dodobrain: let me try it, so we can make sure it's not a repo problem
[08:22] <quacker> cafueg -- I think you've hit the _traditional_ nail on the head
[08:22] <dodobrain> ok
[08:24] <Mevagh> quacker, maybe i'm not being clear... in the ubuntu installer, i select 'manually edit partition table' and the proper screen comes up, but there are no partitions listed under the drive, there's just the drive label there. and i know that there's 2 partitions, swap and unallocated space there that should be showing up.
[08:24] <_jason> dodobrain: updated fine here, what does your sources.list look like?
[08:24] <quacker> cafuego: sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg
[08:25] <_jason> dodobrain: I tried: deb http://mirror.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas java
[08:25] <frogzo0> I just installed doom-legacy-X11 - but it barfs with /usr/bin/llsndserv: relocation error: /usr/bin/llsndserv: symbol errno, version GLIBC_2.0 not defined in file libc.so.6 with link time reference
[08:25] <frogzo0> nm - ubotu's on to it
[08:25] <quacker> Mevagh -- that *is* strange.  have you looked with fdisk | cfdisk | sfdisk | parted ?
[08:26] <iceman> Stupid me, what max memory Winblows xp pro can use ... 2 meg ?
[08:26] <dodobrain> _jason, pasting now
[08:26] <quacker> Mevagh: at this point I recommend booting the LiveCD (and being Xtremely cautious)
[08:26] <dodobrain> _jason, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7466
[08:27] <_jason> dodobrain: read the wiki page better :)  'list_of_sections' means pick a section, like I picked 'java'
[08:27] <dodobrain> _jason, lol
[08:27] <dodobrain> sorry
[08:27] <_jason> dodobrain: np :P
[08:28] <dodobrain> damn, first time this has hgappened to me.. not reading things properly :p
[08:28] <iceman> Ubuntu can use 4 meg on a 64 bit systems, but whats the memory limit on Windows xp pro ?
[08:28] <Mevagh> quacker, just ran "fdisk -l" and /dev/sda1 spans only 1 cylinder and has a message underneath it like "partition smaller than cylinder boundary"... could that be a problem?
[08:28] <_jason> dodobrain: I'm gonna make that bold in the wiki cus you aren't the first one
[08:28] <quacker> cafuego strangely enough, that fixed the xserver, but not kdm (I'll try installing gdm and leting debconf rewrite stuff now)
[08:28] <quacker> Mevagh: yes, absolutely
[08:29] <cafuego> Oh crap, beagle 0.20 is sexy! :-)
[08:29] <frogzo0> anyone get doom legacy to work?
[08:30] <quacker> Mevagh: how important is the data on that device?  (You can restore from the back-ups you made (you *_do_* have backups, of course) Can you take it out of service so that nothing gets overwritten?
[08:30] <dodobrain> _jason, how do i install 1.5.x ?
[08:30] <frogzo0> !firefox
[08:30] <cafuego> quacker: The location of the binary may have changed, so kdm may not be stable to satrt it.
[08:30] <dodobrain> i added the source then updated, then searched for java.. i see only 1 mention of seveas and it says java-package
[08:30] <cafuego> s/stable/able/
[08:30] <j2daosh> does anyone else have a problem with people in china trying to half-ass crack your computer with scripts on open ports?
[08:31] <timfrost> _jason, I suggest that you word things to suggest "all" as the default section name for the breezy-seveas repository.
[08:31] <_jason> dodobrain: sun-j2re1.5 I think
[08:31] <quacker> cafuego: what do you recommend then at this point (and would it be worth it write a HOWTO yet)?
[08:31] <_jason> timfrost: feel free :), I'm off to bed for now
[08:31] <dodobrain> _jason, umm.. i don't see that package when i search for 'java' in synaptic
[08:31] <Mevagh> i have a backup, and i can get the most recent stuff off the drive using pclinuxos and my external hdd, but that's a hassle and i'd prefer to fix the problem.
[08:31] <cafuego> quacker: Next thing to do is 'cd /usr/bin/X11 && sudo ln -s Xorg X'
[08:31] <j2daosh> u wont dodo
[08:31] <_jason> dodobrain: because it doesn't hava java in the name!
[08:32] <Mevagh> wiping the disk is a viable option tho
[08:32] <j2daosh> search for jre
[08:32] <quacker> cafuego: Usually I just to apt-get remove --purge then reinstall and let debconf run again....
[08:32] <Geheimnis> hey guys, I just installed Ubuntu but there's no way I can get GUI.. I'm having an error with XWin, from the log I'd say there is an incompatibility problem with my video card
[08:32] <dodobrain> _jason, ok. i think i will browse the sections and find it under seveas
[08:32] <dodobrain> thunderbird 1.5 in repositories yet?
[08:32] <_jason> dodobrain: that might work, or just search for the exact name
[08:32] <cafuego> quacker: Or trash the cfg file and dpkg -i --force-confmiss
[08:32] <frogzo0> j2daosh, all the windows ports 139,445 are regularly hammered - welcome to the net ;)
[08:32] <Mevagh> on another note, what's a good size for / (everything but /home)
[08:32] <D7> is there any way I can install ubuntu64 off of a usb drive?
[08:33] <quacker> cafuego, why do I need a symlink -- I tested it by typing X at a scren CLI -- it must be in my path ?!?
[08:33] <cafuego> Mevagh: I find 5 GB tends to suffice. Depends a bit on how much space you have all-up and what you intend to do.
[08:33] <cafuego> quacker: kdm will be using a full path.
[08:33] <j2daosh> no... im talking about port 22
[08:33] <Geheimnis> if that can be of any help, my video card is a ATI Mobility Radeon XPRESS 200M
[08:33] <j2daosh> ssh port
[08:33] <cafuego> quacker: Check its cfg file to make sure it has the right one.
[08:34] <Mevagh> hmm... 5gb, might be an idea to wipe the drive then and claim more space for /home
[08:34] <_jason> Geheimnis: try changing the video driver to 'vesa' in /etc/X11/xorg.conf, then once you log into X get the driver problem sorted out
[08:34] <quacker> ahhh, sooo...  I'll do that -- only with gdm since it 'looks better' (you don't have any truly 'technical' bias for KDM, do yoiu?'
[08:35] <j2daosh> i hear somewhere in my root system folders there is a file called host.deny or something of the sort where i can make it so certain ip's get dropped automatically.... where is the file and what format does the entries have to be in?
[08:35] <soap> where to get sun-j2re1.5
[08:35] <cafuego> quacker: Actually technically kdm sucks, as it tends to ignore ~/.xsession.
[08:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell soap about java
[08:35] <Geheimnis> _jason: thanks, I'll note that
[08:35] <cafuego> 41.0C
[08:36] <iceman> What is top memory limit on Windows xp Pro .... I know ubuntu would use a full 4 meg ... I got a 64 bit system, want to run it with Windos xp pro .. ubuntu 64 ... but memory is a issue on windows.... seems winblows want 1 gig on a 64 bit system for stability, i need a stable winblows ... ubuntu works great ... but
[08:36] <iceman> there a hack for winblows memory. on 64 biy ?
[08:36] <j2daosh> ok better yet... im experimenting with iptables and making my own firewall.... does a deny rule take presidence over an allow rule? or does placement take precedence?
[08:37] <quacker> cafuego sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm
[08:37] <cafuego> iceman: Sorry, but Windows isn't stable.
[08:37] <cafuego> iceman: ... nor really on topic here.
[08:37] <Braxis> Wow ubuntu is pissing me off
[08:37] <quacker> cafuego that seemed to fix everything!
[08:37] <cafuego> quacker: woo!
[08:37] <iceman> true, but can ask though ...
[08:38] <cafuego> iceman: Yeah... I *can* spam the contents of /tmp into the channel, but you don't see me doing that.
[08:38] <iceman> I'd perfer full ubuntu, but untill i get better at Linux commands i need the winblows fallback ...
[08:38] <quacker> cafuego so, if anyone else asks, tell them not to spend hours messing around with OpenGL libs... just reconfig
[08:38] <cafuego> quacker: <heh>
[08:39] <Braxis> FUCK UBUNTU
[08:39] <picochu> hi guys where can i get realplayer for amd64?
[08:39] <cafuego> picochu: helix-player
[08:39] <picochu> cafuego:  where's the deb file for it?
[08:39] <cafuego> picochu: real don't support non-i386 Linux.
[08:39] <cafuego> picochu: In the archives.
[08:39] <iceman> I wish the would gt 64 bit full blowen, instead of backporting ....
[08:40] <quacker> sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg; dpkg-reconfigure kdm [|gdm #untested] 
[08:40] <quacker> err, I mean kem was untested -- I did gdm over
[08:40] <quacker> kdm dagggnabit kem = d
[08:41] <quacker> tyop-AAAARRGGHHH- _KayDeeEmm_
[08:41] <picochu> cafuego:  can't find helix or real player in the archives
[08:41] <emmanuel> am a first time user of linux
[08:42] <quacker> picochu: enable multiverse
[08:42] <picochu> quacker:  done that
[08:42] <cafuego> !info helix-player
[08:42] <ubotu> helix-player: (The Helix Community's open source media player), section universe/graphics, is optional. Version: 1.0.6-1ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 4068 kB, Installed size: 10284 kB
[08:42] <iceman> yea windows instability shows more ad more on 64 bit systems ...
[08:42] <amicrawle> hey  i got something very weard going on here
[08:42] <popeyeray> just go to realplayer site download realplayer 10
[08:42] <popeyeray> what's the problem
[08:42] <picochu> popeyeray:  no amd64
[08:43] <quacker> picochu: you will have to d/l the pkg from Realplayer in a separate step then run mkdpg
[08:43] <cafuego> Tip: if you need lots of media, run i386.
[08:43] <amicrawle> i click to min my apps to the task bar and they dissaperr
[08:43] <picochu> cafuego: that's just a lame reason
[08:43] <emmanuel> I extracted but I dont know where to go after
[08:43] <cafuego> picochu: No, it makes perfect sense.
[08:43] <amicrawle> and when i shut down the web is still runnig and some other apps as well
[08:43] <picochu> cafuego:  s/reason/answer
[08:43] <cafuego> picochu: Becuase
[08:43] <iceman> I like amd 64 .... Ubuntu plays well with only 512 meg memory, winblow bloat want a stinking gig memory to play nice ....
[08:43] <cafuego> picochu: most media apps run badly or not at all on amd64.
[08:44] <amicrawle> any ideas people?
[08:44] <cafuego> picochu: That's speaking for personal experience.
[08:44] <cafuego> s/for/from/
[08:44] <durt> only 512 meg memory?
[08:44] <iceman> cafuego tell home to backport a ubuntu 386 install for stability ...
[08:44] <picochu> cafuego: gentoo has fixed that problem i don't see why not for ubuntu
[08:44] <quacker> picochu: if you just run the binary for RP10, then it will show as a 'locally installed or unavailable' package in Synaptic/Aptitude
[08:45] <amicrawle> HELLO
[08:45] <cafuego> picochu: If  auser has no real reason to run a 64bit OS on an amd64, they're better off running an i386 one.
[08:45] <iceman> durt , cost a lot for 64 bit to get started building it, next i but ram ... had to go low to start .
[08:45] <amicrawle> does any body know what is going on here?
[08:45] <cafuego> picochu: For desktop use there is no speed difference, in fact i386 seems faster.
[08:46] <soap> how to install php5
[08:46] <emmanuel> I got realplayer and when I tried to open it says couldn't display
[08:46] <iceman> cafuego only advantage on 64 bit on a 64 bit system i could see so far is like blender ... or 64 bit gamming ... other than that run 32 bit ...
[08:46] <cafuego> soap: libapache2-mod-php5
[08:47] <soap> just install it only
[08:47] <Raskall_> is it possible to downgrade a system from 64-bit breezy to 32-bit?
[08:47] <picochu> cafuego: gentoo has a 32bit chroot for amd64 system
[08:47] <cafuego> iceman: development, media encoding (except the win32 codecs suck on amd64), databases, heavy i/o. Certainly no point for office/mail/web.
[08:47] <quacker> picochu: write a bug report -- whining in here is much less efficacious (especially when most (nontechnical) people can find and follow the instructions on the Realplayer website.  If it's abig enough deal for people to write in about, then maybe...  (otherwise you're just being another 'attitude problem', and if you like Gentoo so much...)
[08:47] <cafuego> picochu: Yes. You cna do that on Ubuntu as well. It's a pain in the ass.
[08:48] <amicrawle> i need help plez
[08:48] <picochu> quacker: I'm installing it for another user, i use gentoo for myself
[08:48] <rd0> please, can you help a ubuntu nooby?
[08:48] <picochu> quacker:  it's bloody painful compared to the distro i am using
[08:49] <cafuego> picochu: A full auto 32/64 bit system is under development, but not as yet done.
[08:49] <iceman> I admit ubuntu has always been a great OS, i'd love to utilize the full spectrum of 64 bit, but so far there is no big big advantage,....
[08:49] <picochu> cafuego: well until then amd64 pretty much sux for ubuntu
[08:49] <vir> it does but ubuntu is great
[08:50] <cafuego> picochu: No, because you can run i386 on amd64.
[08:50] <vir> it will get more support later
[08:50] <emmanuel> can anybody help me?
[08:50] <iceman> Unless you plan to use Blender, or a high end Program that needs the power of 64 bit ... there is not need for 64 bit at install
[08:50] <cafuego> picochu: The only reason not to would be if you ran a server or were just bloody-minded.
[08:50] <picochu> cafuego: this machine has more than 4 gig of ram
[08:50] <vir> blimey
[08:50] <picochu> cafuego:  it is a work station
[08:51] <Bobby___> Hello :)
[08:51] <rd0> I never thought I'd ever be in a position to ask "where's the universe?",
[08:51] <cafuego> picochu: That's nice. Does it actually _need_ that ;-)
[08:51] <vir> lol
[08:51] <cafuego> rd0: It's hiding behind you.
[08:51] <Bobby___> I have a question about setting up the weather applet. Can someone help me?
[08:51] <iceman> I believe 64 bit 4 gig ram will actualy be utilized by 386 ubuntu, that is a guess ...
[08:51] <picochu> cafuego:  4 cores and 8 gig to be exact
[08:51] <cafuego> Bobby___: Possibly. Ask away.
[08:51] <emmanuel> how do you make realplayer executable
[08:51] <emmanuel> ?
[08:51] <vir> steal some ram for yourself picochu
[08:52] <picochu> vir: nope I'm using a tyan 8 cores :)
[08:52] <cafuego> picochu: I see. I suppsoe you need that, for Gentoo. All that compiling would get tedious on a normal system. <heh>
[08:52] <rd0> funny. how do I find the really large bunch of programs, including ...
[08:52] <Bobby___> Well, I put the applet in my panel, but it just says "upating"... where do i input my location?
[08:52] <iceman> I need to steal some of his ram ... lol ;)
[08:52] <ljlolel> libtotem-plparser0 it says i need this package to install ubuntu-desktop ( have a server installation now)
[08:52] <quacker> picochu: again -- tell the developers -- explain how much better the other distro is in that regard.  Personally, I'm just happy if I can find reliable ways to make things work, seeing as how I'm not paying $135-350 per 1-client license for Ubuntu.  When they get 'easy' that's just a bonus. If I'm too lazy to write a script to repeat the steps and send it upstream, then thatt's my 'attitude problem' and I'll just have to deal with rei
[08:52] <cdubya> Bobby_, right-mouse click > Preferences
[08:52] <picochu> cafuego:  not a problem if it is compilation... just that i wouldn't want to babysit this user everytime the emerge breaks
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> why is it
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> I always order 50 ubuntu cds
[08:52] <bluefoxicy> not to distribute
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> but because 45 of them I will open and they will not work
[08:53] <rd0> things like kdevelop (and kde overall, for that matter) , etc. etc.
[08:53] <bluefoxicy> WHY IS THAT.
[08:53] <cafuego> picochu: Stable OS releases don't just "break".
[08:53] <cdubya> Bobby___, right mouse click on the weather applet, then Preferences > Location
[08:53] <iceman> US mail xray machines ...
[08:53] <Bobby___> LOL....... thanks guys! :)
[08:53] <picochu> cafuego: well just say that gentoo is a little bleeding edge
[08:53] <whatwhat> ermmm finaly i can install the java in firefox o0 0o champanhe to everyone lol
[08:54] <emmanuel> Can anybody Help Me?
[08:54] <rd0> 1st ubuntu cd's I tried -- just worked.
[08:54] <picochu> cafuego: sometimes patches are needed.
[08:54] <quacker> picochu: moreover, many things in ubuntu are so much less painfull than they were for me in Woody/Sarge/Etch/Gentoo/Slackware (and even Windows -- but most things easier than 'doze are easier on all distroen)
[08:54] <picochu> cafuego: it's not perfect but at lease realplayer works :)
[08:54] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: I've not had problems with any of the cd's I've ordered.
[08:55] <rd0> please help "here on the official support channel"
[08:55] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  closer examination shos my HP laptop has a DVD drive that has an easier time with burned CDs
[08:55] <quacker> picochu: are you just trolling??
[08:55] <cafuego> picochu: helix-player works fine too (and it's free)
[08:55] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Hmmm. HP laptop.
[08:55] <king_crimson> hello. i'm having a problem. i just installed the 64-bit edition of ubuntu on my computer but when i boot into x-windows the display is all corrupted
[08:55] <king_crimson> it tried xf86config in console mode but that doesnt work
[08:55] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: I don't my next one's going to be an HP.
[08:55] <king_crimson> i gues that doesnt work in ubuntu?
[08:55] <iceman> I will give Linux lots of credit, 5 years ago in beta it was on 64 bit chips, Windows had to create a new os to use 64 bit ....
[08:55] <king_crimson> i'm used to debian
[08:55] <quacker> picochu: how hard is it to d/l the realplayer10 bin chmod +x and exec?
[08:55] <cdubya> emmanuel, did you tell anyone what you needed help with?
[08:56] <picochu> quacker:  missing libs
[08:56] <emmanuel> yep
[08:56] <cafuego> king_crimson: Ought to work fine, if anything Ubuintu has a newer X than Debian.
[08:56] <emmanuel> with my realplayer
[08:56] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  I have a dapper live here i'll write out.
[08:56] <quacker> picochu: I haven't encountered that problem before -- what libs?
[08:56] <king_crimson> hmm... well i type "xf86config" and it says command not found
[08:56] <cdubya> emmanuel, what's the deal?
[08:56] <rd0> Anyone like me who needs any help, just forget it.
[08:56] <rafael> hi
[08:57] <rafael> cut sombady helpme please
[08:57] <king_crimson> im in recovery mode, is that why??
[08:57] <rafael> i have this problem
[08:57] <rd0> I tried over and over to ask for help. No dice.
[08:57] <rafael> : /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  i'm trying to use gparted to hack around at my drive to make room for Ubuntu/Darwin and Nexenta ;)
[08:57] <cafuego> king_crimson: You must never EVER run xf86config
[08:57] <picochu> libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0 i can't find this anywhere
[08:57] <rafael> what i must do?
[08:57] <king_crimson> becuase i cant ctrl+alt+backspace when it boots into xwindows
[08:57] <rd0> If emanuel asked, it wouldn't do him any good.
[08:57] <durt> king_crimson: try "dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg"
[08:57] <king_crimson> ok thanks lemme give it a shot!
[08:57] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  don't ask how I'm going to make ubuntu work on darwin -- I haven't figured that out, perhaps some sort of "recompile" thingy
[08:57] <emmanuel> when I tried to install it tells me it Couldnt display
[08:57] <iceman> Nice to Know Linux could run Beta 64 bit... windows was dead.. had to go to the drawing board ... same thing Linux goes to Clusting, so now windows has a cluster Distrobution ....
[08:57] <quacker> picochu: did you try the wiki.ubuntu.com realplayer method?
[08:57] <iceman> Poor mr. Gates
[08:57] <king_crimson> sweet, durt! it works :)
[08:58] <king_crimson> lemme see if i can fix this problem
[08:58] <cafuego> king_crimson: Yes, 'dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg'
[08:58] <cafuego> king_crimson: What video card do you have?
[08:58] <quacker> iceman: that's an oxymoron at least!! LOL
[08:58] <cdubya> emmanuel, what do you mean it tells you it couldn't display?
[08:58] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Ubuntu on darwin?
[08:58] <iceman> ;( ... well true
[08:58] <king_crimson> cafuego: i hvae a radeon 9200
[08:59] <king_crimson> the weird thing is, even my TEXT is corrupted in console mode
[08:59] <king_crimson> often
[08:59] <cafuego> king_crimson: Cool, then the free driver should work fine.
[08:59] <cafuego> king_crimson: Yes, it doesn't like switching between X and text... I get that here too, on the iBook.
[08:59] <king_crimson> not regular text, but when i get into a config utility or aptitude or elinks even
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  opendarwin.org ?  :)
[08:59] <rafael> : /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[08:59] <iceman> Hard to believe Microshaft had to copy Linux ideas ... Clusering ... who knows what else is next
[08:59] <emmanuel> i downloaded from real.com, and when try to install, its says cant display location
[08:59] <rafael> please nobady?
[08:59] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  or gnu-darwin.sf.net (gnu-darwin is a trash pile -- they don't have install downloads, you have to BUY a CD)
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  Same deal, +ubuntu
[09:00] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Hmmyeah, last I tried darwin (1.4.1) it didn't support half my hardware.
[09:00] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  I"m not seeing a way to do it right now ;)
[09:00] <kenoutten> hi folks, how do i log on as root to change permissions on my cdrw
[09:00] <king_crimson> bah... it still is all corrupted
[09:00] <king_crimson> :(
[09:00] <king_crimson> can't even alt+ctrl+backspace
[09:00] <grexk> kenoutten:su
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  darwin 8.4 is out :O
[09:01] <vir> Iceman; think about when linux gets all its eye candy and vista gets theres think about how annoyed the vista users will be when they say linux running better at half the spec :D
[09:01] <cafuego> kenoutten: Add youtself to the 'cdrom' group if you need permission.
[09:01] <king_crimson> gotta hard reboot
[09:01] <king_crimson> this is weird
[09:01] <kenoutten> su?
[09:01] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: I'll stick to OSX 10.4 ;-)
[09:01] <rd0> rafael, I'd help you if I could, but I myself am pretty uninformed. ...
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  I just want to be able to say I have 6 OSes on my laptop and not say they're all Linux :)
[09:01] <grexk> switch user
[09:01] <iceman> I looked at darwin, never could get it to work ...
[09:01] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  OSX is built on darwin
[09:01] <timfrost> !root
[09:01] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:01] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: yes, I know
[09:01] <king_crimson> whats really weird is i just installed fedora core 64-bit earlier and when it booted up, x-windows just showed a black screen and i couldnt do anything
[09:01] <king_crimson> so maybe its not ubuntu's fault
[09:01] <rd0> rafael, any who could help are too morally clueless to do so.
[09:01] <picochu> quacker: no joy the binary i got from Real.com is different from the one listed in wiki
[09:01] <cdubya> emmanuel, you downloaded it from real's site? why didn't you download the .deb?
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  oh fucking holy jesus of sweet bobobo-bo bo-bobo what the hell!  Dude the dapper LIveCD is the second coming of Christ!
[09:02] <cafuego> Darwin Kernel Version 8.4.0: Tue Jan  3 18:22:10 PST 2006
[09:02] <Bobby___> Hello :) I have another question!
[09:02] <nofear> i was able get darwin working "once"
[09:02] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: I run dapper i386 on my box.
[09:02] <vir> tried os x today and damn its confusing mind you i haven't used a mac in over 7 years
[09:02] <emmanuel> am a new user, this is my first time using linux
[09:02] <iceman> Darwin any good to play with ?
[09:02] <king_crimson> i'm trying to boot with the "nofb" option
[09:02] <king_crimson> but i dunno if its gonna help
[09:02] <picochu> vir:  osx is a quite nice
[09:02] <nofear> its "ok"
[09:02] <emmanuel> I dont know where else to get it
[09:02] <Bobby___> vir, os x sucks, but i'm still running it to try it out
[09:02] <rafael> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[09:02] <grexk> I was never success in installing Darwin
[09:02] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  the livecd just drew a windows style window during kernel load, what the hell boot loader is that
[09:03] <cdubya> emmanuel, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats?action=show&redirect=RealPlayer#head-848295cba1b3591a4b4a0dbea5844fd5d2894b6b
[09:03] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  I want this mojo on our install base :D
[09:03] <vir> os x is nice.... how many have os x x86 here lol
[09:03] <picochu> vir: but it's a little slow compared to linux :(
[09:03] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Last I tried, it only did that on the first dialog.. then it reverted to `dialog'.
[09:03] <nofear> i refuse to say wither i do or not.
[09:03] <Bobby___> Is AOL available for linux? Or is it possible to run AOL in ubuntu?
[09:03] <metzger27> Does anybody think they could help me resolve an issue of two packages conflicting each other?
[09:03] <king_crimson> DAMN "nofb" mode doesnt work either
[09:03] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  it does it in the BOOT LOADER!  whoever is making livecds more advanced than installed systems needs a beating.
[09:03] <cafuego> vir: I do.
[09:03] <Bobby___> pico, its even slow compared to my Windows
[09:03] <king_crimson> "nofb" is the right boot option, isnt it?
[09:03] <rafael> nobady have any ideas about this
[09:03] <king_crimson> for no frame buffer
[09:03] <rafael> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[09:03] <cafuego> vir: Then again, it's identical to OSX ppc.
[09:04] <nofear> true
[09:04] <Bobby___> Anyone: Is AOL available for linux? Or is it possible to run AOL in ubuntu?
[09:04] <jesper> Bobby___: Try Gaim
[09:04] <vir> yeah
[09:04] <nofear> mine works fine tho :P
[09:04] <rd0> A timewasting clique, and otherwise just people needing and not getting help.
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> Bobby___:  no, you can not get on AOL from Linux.
[09:04] <vir> Bobby___, do you mean dial up
[09:04] <Bobby___> jesper, is that an AOL IM app, or the full thing?
[09:04] <vir> ?
[09:04] <iceman> i just downloaded the reactos ... Live cd ... got to try it ...
[09:04] <Bobby___> vir, no
[09:04] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Well... it COULD just be a stealthily crafted bootsplash
[09:04] <king_crimson> AAAA this is making me want to stab linus torvald in the chest
[09:04] <picochu> cafuego:  you still can run ppc bins on x86 via rosetta
[09:04] <Bobby___> vir, just the AOL software
[09:04] <vir> no it isn't possible
[09:04] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  during "Loading Linux"?  (while loading the kernel)
[09:04] <rafael> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[09:04] <rafael> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[09:04] <rafael> E: /var/cache/apt/archives/xlibs_6.9.0.dfsg.1-4_all.deb: intentando sobreescribir `/etc/X11/xkb/symbols/pc', que est tambin en el paquete xkeyboard-config
[09:04] <picochu> cafuego: but i love Xcode :)
[09:04] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: Prolly.
[09:04] <rafael> pleaseeeeee
[09:05] <nofear> I havnt messed with Xcode ytet
[09:05] <metzger27> Does anybody think they could help me resolve an issue of two packages conflicting each other?
[09:05] <cafuego> !info xlibs
[09:05] <lillpelle> rafael: use some nopaste-site, please!
[09:05] <ubotu> xlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (breezy), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[09:05] <rd0> Bobby, I think the answer is (shudder) no.
[09:05] <cafuego> !info xlibs dapper
[09:05] <ubotu> xlibs: (X Window System client library transitional package), section libs, is optional. Version: 6.8.2-77 (dapper), Packaged size: 89 kB, Installed size: 284 kB
[09:05] <picochu> nofear:  it's a lot better than kdevelop
[09:05] <cafuego> rafael: Those are NOT Ubuntu packages.
[09:05] <cafuego> rafael: Are you running Debian Sid or something?
[09:06] <nofear> ya, its programming stuff from what i gather.
[09:06] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  the livecd printed kernel debugging info everywhere, then entered gnome :>
[09:06] <nofear> I dont know anything about programing hehe
[09:06] <grexk> picochu:is it nicer than kdevelop?
[09:06] <cafuego> bluefoxicy: neet :-)
[09:06] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  dual kernels?
[09:06] <king_crimson> hey is there anything like visual basic, except for linux? heh
[09:06] <king_crimson> i dont know any C really
[09:06] <king_crimson> but i'm a VB expert
[09:06] <bluefoxicy> cafuego:  I'm pretty sure that was a kernel stack trace I saw.
[09:06] <rafael> yes a friend tollme the i cut  upgrade better
[09:06] <picochu> grexk:  well xcode interface is very easy.
[09:06] <iceman> If only 64 bit would go mainstream home user, better app support, but at least Linux still far leads windows in 64 bit support.
[09:06] <rafael> whit those pakege
[09:06] <emmanuel> Deb says could not open
[09:06] <cafuego> king_crimson: No, there is nothing quite as bad as VB.
[09:06] <cdubya> king_crimson, methinks gambas is similar
[09:06] <nofear> lol
[09:06] <king_crimson> i just finished programming an IRC server in VB6
[09:07] <nofear> nice.
[09:07] <king_crimson> gambas? i'll check it out thx
[09:07] <ljlolel> how do i give a user the permission to startx?
[09:07] <grexk> picochu: I'm using kdevelop maybe I should try that one.
[09:07] <emmanuel> I need the codec
[09:07] <king_crimson> IRC servers are NOT fun to program :(
[09:07] <cafuego> king_crimson: There are IDEs kind of like it, but for decent languages. gambas, there's a java one too. And a python one.
[09:07] <cdubya> emmanuel, which codec?
[09:07] <nofear> but satifying once your done :P
[09:07] <cafuego> rafael: Well, he lied and now your system is broken.
[09:07] <metzger27> Please, may I receive assistance with a package confliction?
[09:07] <picochu> grexk: You'll love it. binding interfaces and stuffs ... it is quite well refined.
[09:07] <grexk> king_crimson: there is is wxwindows
[09:07] <cafuego> rafael: get him to fix it by removing them.
[09:07] <nofear> how many people can run the server and people log in and u can say I coded this server by scratch..
[09:07] <king_crimson> whats wxwindows?
[09:07] <nofear> :P
[09:08] <grexk> picochu: does it support wxwindows?
[09:08] <grexk> c++ toolkit
[09:08] <cafuego> king_crimson: a cross-l
[09:08] <cafuego> platform gui toolkit
[09:08] <cafuego> king_crimson: wxwibndows apps could be compiled on Windoze as well as Linux.
[09:08] <picochu> grexk: there's fink which ports most of the oss stuffs to mac osx
[09:08] <rafael> but i dont have  one pakete broken
[09:08] <rd0> nofear: but you are obviously unhelpful to fellow humans.
[09:08] <vir> king_crimson, http://www.linuxtoday.com/news_story.php3?ltsn=2000-09-28-009-06-PR-SW ee that
[09:09] <vir> *see
[09:09] <cafuego> rafael: You need to be NOT installing Sid packages.
[09:09] <picochu> Grek but most of the osx gui toolkit works only with cocoa
[09:09] <cafuego> rafael: _not_ _at_ _all_
[09:09] <rafael> ok
[09:09] <halimh> is there any way to install ubuntu without burning a cd?
[09:09] <emmanuel> that support videos
[09:09] <emmanuel> cause my dvd is not playing
[09:09] <king_crimson> halimh: vmware? :)
[09:09] <cafuego> !tell emmanuel -about w32codecs
[09:09] <cdubya> emmanuel, sudo apt-get install totem-xine
[09:10] <iceman> got to look closer at react os .... seem a idea ..
[09:10] <halimh> king_crimson, no, a real instalation
[09:10] <cafuego> emmanuel: Follow the links and instructions ubotu gave you.
[09:10] <rd0> halimh: yeah, get cd's shipped to you free.
[09:10] <rafael> somady cut helpme to use the right sourcelist
[09:10] <picochu> king_crimson:  why use vmware when u can use qemu
[09:10] <king_crimson> never heard of qemu
[09:10] <king_crimson> but i love vmware
[09:10] <rafael> becuse i have pure debian sources
[09:10] <king_crimson> use it all the time
[09:10] <picochu> king_crimson: it's free
[09:10] <cafuego> halimh: See if the local linux User Group has any and get one off them.
[09:10] <rafael> debian sid sources
[09:10] <king_crimson> so it vmware if you know what i mean:
[09:10] <king_crimson> :)
[09:11] <cafuego> rafael: I shall spell it out then: Debian packages BREAK Ubuntu.
[09:11] <picochu> king_crimson:  free as gpl
[09:11] <vir> what about net install or something ?
[09:11] <cafuego> rafael: So you should NOT be using them on Ubuntu. EVER.
[09:11] <emmanuel> which website can i get it from?
[09:11] <rd0> why is ubuntu so fragile?
[09:11] <cafuego> rd0: It's not, really.
[09:11] <king_crimson> well, i got xwindows working, but i cant use anything but VGA 320x240x8bit :(
[09:11] <king_crimson> this is.. unuseable
[09:12] <d1rt> any tips to try and rebuild partition tables?
[09:12] <picochu> rd0 it is not fragile.. just not quite debian compatible
[09:12] <glick> god its so good to be back in ubuntu
[09:12] <glick> kubuntu is terrible
[09:12] <cdubya> emmanuel, get what from ?
[09:12] <vir> what do you mean fragile?
[09:12] <d1rt> glick: whats wrong with it?
[09:12] <rafael> no really what is better  ubuntu or debian ?
[09:12] <cafuego> rd0: The problem is that people say [Y]  when it asks "This will break your system. Do you want to contionue anyway?"
[09:12] <|Bou|> yeah I tried that the other day glick
[09:12] <rd0> It should be more possible to have packages work more linux-wide
[09:12] <|Bou|> I agree with you
[09:12] <picochu> woot! i got sli on anther system :)
[09:12] <king_crimson> rafael: i love debian, dont have any experience with ubuntu though... i know debian is an awesome distro
[09:13] <king_crimson> i use debian on my web server box
[09:13] <glick> d1rt, well kubuntu's kde desktop is really nicely integrated but its not as usable as gnome, and just basic nicities are missing
[09:13] <vir> depends rafael
[09:13] <glick> like update notifier
[09:13] <glick> easy wireless internet setup
[09:13] <rafael> of what
[09:13] <ejofee> is (e)lilo better than grub?
[09:13] <glick> cant even get the damn panel clock out of 24 hr format
[09:13] <emmanuel> the codec name you just provided
[09:13] <glick> and it was just generally unstable
[09:13] <d1rt> glick: gnome is like a zepplin with unknown gas uptop
[09:13] <cafuego> glick: You mocking Linus? ;-)
[09:13] <picochu> (**) NVIDIA(0): NVIDIA SLI enabled; using auto-selected rendering method. :)
[09:14] <vir> ubuntu has a ace community that deal with users switching over more so
[09:14] <glick> cafuego, no im not mocking him i just disagree with him
[09:14] <rd0> Is it really necessary that distro-makers balkanize the linux world?
[09:14] <cafuego> glick: <hehe>
[09:14] <king_crimson> sigh... i think i might just install good ol' debian on my computer if i cant get this video stuff to work right
[09:14] <vir> ubuntu has quicker releases than debian
[09:14] <king_crimson> i was looking forward to trying ubuntu
[09:14] <picochu> btw is doom3 demo available on the net?
[09:14] <king_crimson> but 320x200 8-bit and 640x480 4-bit isnt good enough to use heh
[09:14] <glick> however there is a bug in the latest pmount
[09:15] <glick> and i choose not to update it
[09:15] <rafael> okay   i will delete this sources y wil put it on of the ubuntu guide have
[09:15] <vir> believe so picochu
[09:15] <glick> and now my drive works fine again
[09:15] <glick> what the heck
[09:15] <picochu> vir: amd64 bit?
[09:15] <emmanuel> the w32codecs
[09:15] <vir> don't think so
[09:15] <picochu> vir:  darn :|
[09:15] <king_crimson> eh enough of this, i'm installing debian
[09:15] <rd0> doesn't look like much of a community to me. People needing help ask in vain.
[09:15] <glick> king_crimson, whats the problem?
[09:16] <king_crimson> video problems, glick
[09:16] <king_crimson> corrupted display
[09:16] <king_crimson> unless i use vga mode in 320x200x8 bit
[09:16] <glick> whats your video card?
[09:16] <king_crimson> radeon 9200
[09:16] <king_crimson> :/
[09:16] <vir> it will run on 32bit mind picochu
[09:16] <rd0> crim: did the live cd work?
[09:16] <king_crimson> even text mode gets corrupted
[09:16] <king_crimson> didnt try it rd0
[09:16] <glick> hmm
[09:16] <king_crimson> last time i used the live cd i had a radeon 8500
[09:17] <emmanuel> is there a program name sudo
[09:17] <emmanuel> ?
[09:17] <king_crimson> i dont have one burned right now..
[09:17] <rd0> uh, i suggest trying the live cd first. Among other things, if it does work . . .
[09:17] <kenoutten> hi folks, you're really going to have to draw it out in crayon - my cdrw says i'm not the owner so i cant change the permission - help
[09:17] <cafuego> kenoutten: use 'sudo' to add yourself to the cdrom group. Don't go changing the permissions on the ndevice.
[09:17] <glick> kenoutten, yeah the last pmount update is foobared
[09:18] <glick> i had similar problems
[09:18] <glick> re installed and when i updated i deselected pmount update
[09:18] <rd0> then you can crib the settings for use in the installed version.
[09:18] <kenoutten> glick ok i'll try it
[09:18] <king_crimson> oh i have another question... is it safe to mount my ntfs partitions? my friend did that when he used mandriva 10, but it corrupted his MFT's and windows wouldnt recognize it anymore
[09:18] <king_crimson> does ubuntu or debian screw it up too?
[09:19] <ljlolel> i have libtotem-plparser0 as a dependency, but only libtotem-plparser-dev exists
[09:19] <brother_of_jared> Hey room....
[09:19] <rd0> run it live (no fault) before you run it for real.
[09:19] <brother_of_jared> I could use some help...
[09:19] <ljlolel> i need help b/c i'm trying to install ubuntu-desktop but it doesn't install
[09:19] <ljlolel> b/c of this nonexistent dependency
[09:19] <kenoutten> when you say use "sudo" what exactly do i input?
[09:20] <skulltula> kenoutten, you type "sudo" before you type the actual command
[09:20] <rd0> unfamiliar laptop.
[09:21] <kenoutten> ok, what would the command be
[09:21] <skulltula> kenoutten, i just came in here... what are you trying to do?
[09:21] <kenoutten> skulltula: i'm trying to get permission to write with my cdrw
[09:21] <king_crimson> i'm in the middle of installing debian with the 2.6 kernel... is it safe to mount my NTFS partition?
[09:21] <brother_of_jared> I'm using Ubuntu Breezy and this thing freezes more than xpee when left alone.... any ideas as to why?
[09:22] <king_crimson> mandriva 10 corrupted my friend's NTFS MFT's
[09:22] <paulproteus> king_crimson: Mounting read-only is safe.
[09:22] <picochu> king_crimson: via captivefs?
[09:22] <iKernel> king_crimson: Sure, but make sure you don't have write support on
[09:22] <king_crimson> cool
[09:22] <brother_of_jared> I ususally leave my system running when I go to work... but every time I come home.. its forzen.
[09:22] <king_crimson> picochu: not sure
[09:23] <king_crimson> ack nevermind, debian doesnt even support NTFS wtf
[09:23] <picochu> king_crimson:  why would you need ntfs during install?
[09:23] <king_crimson> picochu: i wanted to mount my NTFS drive with all my mp3's and videos
[09:23] <kenoutten> skulltula: i guess what i need to do is "add" myself to the cdrom group or some such thing
[09:23] <Agabus_> does anyone know of any software for linux for music album collections? Something like alexandria for books?
[09:23] <picochu> king_crimson: look for captivefs do that after your debian install
[09:23] <king_crimson> i'll install some 3rd party driver
[09:23] <king_crimson> ok
[09:23] <king_crimson> captivefs? i'll check it out thx
[09:23] <iKernel> NO NOT CAPTIVEFS!
[09:23] <picochu> king_crimson: it's a userspace ntfs
[09:23] <vir> lol
[09:23] <king_crimson> iKernel: why not captivefs
[09:23] <emmanuel> I got the reposition to work
[09:24] <vir> captivefs = write
[09:24] <iKernel> don't write to ntfs from *nix
[09:24] <iKernel> very bad
[09:24] <king_crimson> i know im not going to write
[09:24] <king_crimson> just read
[09:24] <iKernel> good
[09:24] <king_crimson> yeah my friend got his NTFS MFT's messed up from mandriva
[09:24] <vir> then just mount it like this....
[09:24] <iKernel> then don't get captivefs or captiventfs
[09:24] <brother_of_jared> anyone have any idea about this one?
[09:24] <whatwhat> o0
[09:24] <king_crimson> vir: fstab?
[09:25] <king_crimson> im familiar with fstab
[09:25] <picochu> well captivefs is stable for me nothing broke yet
[09:25] <blekos> goodmorning guys
[09:25] <vir> sudo mount /dev/hdb1 /media/windows/ -t ntfs -o nls=utf8,umask=0222
[09:25] <ljlolel> nevermind i fixed it by getting it from a breezy repository
[09:25] <skulltula> kenoutten, i haven't done this before, but i'm reading up
[09:25] <king_crimson> thanks vir
[09:26] <blekos> do u know any backup tool with gui?
[09:26] <kenoutten> skulltula: ok
[09:26] <vir> thats if your hdd is on second channel :)
[09:26] <skulltula> this is what i'm looking at right now, http://ubuntuguide.org/#blankcdrwdvdrw
[09:26] <vir> just change it to hda if first ide channel is used
[09:26] <brother_of_jared> hello, I need some help on this one.
[09:26] <kenoutten> skulltula: i'll take a look too...
[09:26] <king_crimson> yeah it'll actually be hd5 i believe
[09:26] <king_crimson> i'll have to double check
[09:27] <picochu> arg i think I'm going to install fedora core on the system.... :| realplayer just dosen't work :(
[09:27] <king_crimson> picochu: i like fedora
[09:27] <whatwhat> ermm :x i finish to installl flash player in  my mozilla and works and everything but when i go to the macromedia.com apears that don display to me the buttons ? is my bad insttaltion or bad suport from macromedia? :x happeds to you guys the same ?
[09:27] <picochu> king_crimson:  i hate FC
[09:27] <king_crimson> picochu: why's that?
[09:27] <coolboy> hi
[09:28] <picochu> king_crimson:  they do funny things with each release
[09:28] <pseudo> rhythmbox wont play mp3s......i have gstreamer installed via automatix
[09:28] <pseudo> any help?
[09:28] <picochu> king_crimson:  usually i reinstall everything with each new fc distro
[09:28] <coolboy> does someone know anything about making a multi bootdisk with xp and ubuntu
[09:28] <skulltula> kenoutten, the second question should answer how to actually write, but the permissions to do it might be in your fstab settings...
[09:28] <Nameeater> tell pseudo about mp3
[09:29] <picochu> mp3 == evil?
[09:29] <pseudo> lol
[09:29] <king_crimson> coolboy: you mean a floppy bootdisk?
[09:29] <Nameeater> did that work?
[09:29] <brother_of_jared> <---- needs some help
[09:29] <kenoutten> skulltula" fstab settings?
[09:29] <Nameeater> or is it !tell :/
[09:29] <picochu> i use ogg :)
[09:29] <skulltula> kenoutten, that's where all the permenent mount settings are kept, with file permissions included.
[09:29] <coolboy> king_crimson : nope , just the full linux on 20gb og my hd
[09:29] <king_crimson> coolboy: install GRUB on a floppy and configure it accordingly
[09:29] <king_crimson> oh
[09:30] <skulltula> (as far as i know the file)
[09:30] <vir> why do they install rhthembox...beep media player is much better
[09:30] <kenoutten> skulltula: ok, how do i navigate to it?
[09:30] <king_crimson> coolboy: ubuntu should recognize the windows xp install and automatically configure GRUB for you
[09:30] <glick> god i will bever go back to kubuntu
[09:30] <crimsun_> vir: b-m-p has been ended-of-life
[09:30] <skulltula> kenoutten, you should try burning without going into fstab, though... at least before talking to someone who knows more than me.
[09:30] <king_crimson> as long as windows is install first, anyway
[09:30] <skulltula> <---n00b
[09:30] <brother_of_jared> ok thanks everyone..
[09:30] <glick> linus musta been smokin crack when he said that about gnome
[09:30] <picochu> glick: kubuntu isn't that bad....
[09:31] <brother_of_jared> where else can I get some help on ubuntu?
[09:31] <vir> i know but bmpx will be out soon enough
[09:31] <coolboy> k, so just install windows , then two partitions
[09:31] <picochu> glick:  you haven't tried programming in gtk
[09:31] <vir> bmpx will be ace
[09:31] <crimsun_> vir: we can't support something for 3 years that isn't maintained upstream
[09:31] <glick> picasso, actually i have and i do
[09:31] <skulltula> i think you can look at fstab by writing "cat /etc/fstab/" in a terminal
[09:31] <pseudo> picoch/king: any help regarding rhythmbox?
[09:31] <arrinmurr> glick: eh, what's wrong with kubuntu?
[09:31] <picochu> glick:  gtk++ sux big time
[09:31] <picochu> glick:  in fact gtk suxx
[09:31] <king_crimson> coolboy: yes just set up a partition with windows setup, and make sure you leave some free space for linux
[09:31] <crimsun_> vir: neither can we put something in that is still very rough about the edges
[09:31] <glick> picasso, actually i like gtk
[09:31] <whatwhat> you shure the macromedia flash firefox plug-in works fine in linux ? :x
[09:31] <glick> arrinmurr, a few things
[09:32] <king_crimson> coolboy: then manually edit partition tables with ubuntu install and make your ext3 partition
[09:32] <vir> true i see your point but what about mplayer?
[09:32] <skulltula> kenoutten, it would only be there if it mounts on boot, though, i think.
[09:32] <glick> firstly kde is unstable
[09:32] <picochu> glick:  it is painfull.... qt and kde it's a lot less stressful
[09:32] <gmi01> hello guys anyone knows why i cannot add another application to the open with menu, it says couldn't add application to application database
[09:32] <arrinmurr> glick: hm? did you try KDE 3.5?
[09:32] <coolboy> wow and how do  you do that
[09:32] <brother_of_jared> *****************how can I get some help on my problem with ubuntu?***********************
[09:32] <king_crimson> man if i stick around here for a few weeks i'll become some sort of all-knowing linux god
[09:32] <glick> picochu, is this your opinion or linus' opinion
[09:32] <pseudo> gmi01: u using sudo ?
[09:32] <king_crimson> i should try it
[09:32] <vir> mplayer is being worked on all the time and it is far better than totem
[09:32] <glick> arrinmurr, whatever version came with kubuntu
[09:32] <coolboy> could we talk in private about this
[09:33] <picochu> vir:  i agree
[09:33] <gmi01> pseudo, no should I
[09:33] <pseudo> yes
[09:33] <coolboy> its complicated
[09:33] <pseudo> before the command
[09:33] <arrinmurr> glick: ah. well, there's a newer version available too
[09:33] <picochu> vir: of only ram and rmvb works on mplayer :|
[09:33] <gmi01> pseudo, thanks i will try it now
[09:33] <pseudo> k
[09:33] <glick> just gnome seems more intuitive, it does what i think it would do
[09:33] <picochu> arrinmurr: kde 4.0 looks  pretty cool :)
[09:33] <vir> huh what do you mean
[09:34] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: whats the problem??????????????????
[09:34] <arrinmurr> picochu: screenshots somewhere?
[09:34] <gmi01> pseudo, nop still same problem
[09:34] <brother_of_jared> Ubuntu Breezy is freezing daily when it is left alone
[09:34] <brother_of_jared> more than Windows ever did
[09:35] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: what do you mean??? it wont go on standby?
[09:35] <king-crimson> my connection dropped
[09:35] <brother_of_jared> At first I thought it was the Matrix screensaver I had running... but its not that...
[09:35] <skulltula> kenoutten, good luck... i gotta reboot
[09:35] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: what daemons do you have running?
[09:35] <brother_of_jared> I mean, I leave it running when I go to work and when I come home I need to re-boot because its frozen
[09:35] <d1rt> glick: how much ram have you got?
[09:36] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: are you running a server?
[09:36] <glick> d1rt, i gig
[09:36] <glick> d1rt, 1 gig
[09:36] <brother_of_jared> I have one installed but not running..
[09:36] <coolboy> king_crimson: plz come to private about this
[09:36] <brother_of_jared> what do you mean by daemons?
[09:36] <king-crimson> coolboy: my connection dropped, i cant get to the PM's
[09:36] <brother_of_jared> better yet, how do I check?
[09:36] <kenoutten> folks, skulltula tried his best but what i really would like to know is how to change permissions on my cdrw
[09:36] <king-crimson> re-message me on this nick
[09:37] <coolboy> a k
[09:37] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: those are things that run in the background. you might be having a problem with "apm"
[09:37] <d1rt> glick: kde runs fine for me with 326MB
[09:37] <brother_of_jared> I have nothing running.. at most, Firfox and GAM
[09:37] <tammi> java
[09:37] <brother_of_jared> most often.. nothing....
[09:38] <brother_of_jared> oops GAIM  not GAM
[09:38] <glick> d1rt, if it runs fine for you and you like it then use it, im just saying its not my cup of tea
[09:38] <glick> its not for ome
[09:38] <glick> for me
[09:38] <iKernel> bored
[09:38] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: you can find out whats running on your computer by going to xterm console and typing "ps aux" without the quotes
[09:38] <king-crimson> coolboy: make sure you get the dash in my new nick, isntead of an underscore: king-crimson
[09:38] <blekos> do u know any backup tool with gui?
[09:38] <coolboy> yeah it is
[09:39] <coolboy> i've sended you a message
[09:39] <king-crimson> i didnt get a pm
[09:39] <king-crimson> hmm
[09:39] <picochu> arrinmurr: sorry can't find the link :|
[09:39] <brother_of_jared> only one daemon listed
[09:39] <d1rt> glick: what i mean is, I dont have the problems youre talking about. maybe check your /etc/rcS.d and run levels because you might be running lots of crap that gets in the way
[09:39] <scanwinder> Im finding that all the kde apps i have(not many) are opening really slow when they're the first kde app opened, can i speed this up by making something todo with kde open on startup?
[09:39] <king-crimson> im on a total crap computer right now while debian is installing on my athlon 64 3700+ .... im using IRC on a p166 lol. this thing CRAWLS
[09:40] <arrinmurr> picochu: it's ok. KDE 3.5 looks very good already ;)
[09:40] <dan_> whats up guys?
[09:40] <coolboy> i've send ya  a pm a again
[09:40] <king-crimson> i still didnt get anything coolboy...
[09:40] <kenoutten> ok, i'll put it another way, anyone able to burn cds in ubuntu breezy?
[09:40] <brother_of_jared> As far as I can tell there is no reason for the freezing....
[09:40] <oboro> hello, is there a special chat room for the dapper drake?
[09:40] <vir> i can't wait til dapper +1 :)
[09:40] <king-crimson> coolboy: well, do you know how to set up partitions on windows setup?
[09:40] <coolboy> yep
[09:40] <Nameeater> king-crimson: you using console mode + irssi?
[09:40] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: maybe post the output of ps on #flood and we'll take a boo
[09:40] <coolboy> np
[09:40] <gmi01> anyone knows why nautilus won't preview my video files although i have all the codecs installed
[09:41] <king-crimson> Nameeater: no i'm running windows xp on this thing man LOL ITS SLOW
[09:41] <Nameeater> hahaha thats mad :P
[09:41] <oboro> is there a specific chatroom for the dapper drake alphas?
[09:41] <kbenplaut> what desktop environment do you think i use?
[09:41] <picochu> arrinmurr: 3.5 is so cool when u enable composite :)
[09:41] <coolboy> king-crimson: i know how to do that
[09:41] <king-crimson> coolboy: ok do that, and save space for a linux partition. when you use ubuntu instlal, its pretty self-explanatory. when it asks about hard drive configuration, just select Manually Edit PArtition Table
[09:41] <king-crimson> and its easy if you already know about partitioning
[09:42] <arrinmurr> picochu: hm?
[09:42] <oboro> anyone using the dapper drake flight 3 ?
[09:42] <king-crimson> coolboy it gives you a nice interface, its pretty user friendly
[09:42] <kbenplaut> oboro: yup
[09:42] <vir> king-crimson, you're crazy man
[09:42] <pseudo> anyone know about why rhythmbox wont play mp3 .......???
[09:42] <king-crimson> lol vir
[09:42] <oboro> oh kewl, i was thinking of installing it myself
[09:42] <coolboy> king-crimson:and if i manually edit do i have to insert codes?
[09:42] <king-crimson> coolboy: no
[09:42] <oboro> how is it so far?
[09:42] <vir> pseudo, got the w32 codecs?
[09:42] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: you still there?
[09:42] <king-crimson> coolboy: just select the unused space with your arrow keys, and set it up its real easy
[09:43] <pseudo> vir: yes
[09:43] <oboro> when will the last ver. of dapper drake be released?
[09:43] <benplaut> oboro: i haven't done much with it yet... but it seems a bit faster
[09:43] <oboro> kewl, how many alphas left till the last one?
[09:43] <coolboy> king-crimson: the free space while windows setuup should I partion it yet?
[09:43] <vir> not sure i always use bmp
[09:43] <coolboy> king-crimson:or wait?
[09:43] <king-crimson> coolboy: no, leave unpartitioned space when setting up windows
[09:43] <brother_of_jared> can't type?
[09:44] <brother_of_jared> d1rt??
[09:44] <coolboy> king-crimson: thx you've been a great help, sounds pretty easy!
[09:44] <nilera> right-click in openoffice gives no context menu. Ideas?
[09:44] <brother_of_jared> I can't type on #flood
[09:44] <king-crimson> coolboy: no problem! if you have another computer you can IRC from, come back if you have any problems
[09:44] <pseudo> vir: it plays in bmp and xmms
[09:45] <coolboy> king-crimson: I only have one, but i'll check there's always my sister's pc
[09:45] <coolboy> cyaa
[09:45] <king-crimson> coolboy: cool good luck cya
[09:45] <picochu> arrinmurr: there's a RENDER COMPOSITE option in the new xorg that's allows pretty nice eye candies.... i got it running on gentoo.... don't think it works for ubuntu yet
[09:45] <king-crimson> its easy
[09:45] <oboro> how many releases are there before the final ver. of Dapper Drake? do you think it's a good idea using the flight 3 alpha as a main os?
[09:45] <NiLz> hi, is there a .deb package of firefox 1.5 for ubuntu?
[09:45] <ljlolel> how do i add someone to sudo list through the console?
[09:46] <ljlolel> pretend i'm root
[09:46] <ljlolel> ;-)
[09:46] <pseudo> niLz: you can use automatix for that
[09:46] <picochu> arrinmurr: http://gentoo-wiki.com/TIP_Xorg_X11_and_Transparency
[09:46] <ljlolel> NiLz, there is a .deb in the dapper repository
[09:46] <oboro> how many releases are there before the final ver. of Dapper Drake? do you think it's a good idea using the flight 3 alpha as a main os?
[09:47] <picochu> arrinmurr:  look at the screenshots
[09:47] <oboro> is it stable enough?
[09:47] <king-crimson> man, i've had serious problems with like every linux distro on my new computer except for debian using the 2.6 kernel
[09:47] <king-crimson> i got an athlon 64 3700+ and an asus k8v se deluxe motherboard
[09:47] <king-crimson> i dont know what the deal it
[09:47] <king-crimson> is
[09:47] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: I'm new at this too, but go to http://channels.debian.net/paste/ and theres a form there.
[09:47] <NiLz> pseudo: whats automatix?
[09:47] <arrinmurr> picochu: ah, ok. i'm not sure if would even want too much eye candy. the most important thing in kde for me is that it's so functional ;)
[09:47] <picochu> king-crimson:  your board is a debian lover :)
[09:47] <NiLz> ljlolel: can you give a link please, is it safe to install?
[09:48] <arrinmurr> picochu: oh, looks quite nice. but is it practial, or just good for screenshots? =)
[09:48] <king-crimson> picochu: really? like there are usually problems with this board?
[09:48] <d1rt> http://channels.debian.net/paste/: i used "debian" for the channel. you may have to join #debian
[09:48] <picochu> arrinmurr:  it's really fast enough
[09:48] <pseudo> NilZ: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=66563
[09:48] <king-crimson> windows runs flawlessly
[09:49] <picochu> king-crimson: I'm just kidding but I have a Asus board as well it's Nforce4 machine. so far it runs on everything that i  installed
[09:49] <oboro> how many releases are there before the final ver. of Dapper Drake? do you think it's a good idea using the flight 3 alpha as a main os?
[09:49] <oboro> is it stable enough?
[09:49] <sampan> !dapper
[09:49] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[09:49] <king-crimson> picochu: weird... must be some weird hardware problem. every problem i've had so far seems to be video related
[09:49] <sampan> oboro, does that answer your question? ;)
[09:49] <king-crimson> i guess i can always put my old radeon 8500 back in and see what happens with ubuntu and fedora
[09:49] <picochu> king-crimson:  what card are you using?
[09:49] <GTroy> is kingston good memory?
[09:49] <king-crimson> i have a radeon 9200 now
[09:49] <king-crimson> GTroy: i use kingston, it runs great
[09:49] <GTroy> cool
[09:49] <brother_of_jared> d1rt?
[09:49] <oboro> yes sampan, thank you :)
[09:50] <brother_of_jared> there's an announcement on #flood
[09:50] <oboro> guess i'll stick with breezy for now
[09:50] <picochu> Hmmm king-crimson  i never tried running ATI cards on Nvidia board ....
[09:50] <king-crimson> i wouldnt think there would be a problem running ATI on it
[09:50] <oboro> not much time left though :)
[09:50] <sampan> oboro, sure thing.  if you love troubleshooting and updating (sometimes multiple times per day) dapper is fine -- lots of people have installed, but they -expect- it to break often.
[09:51] <king-crimson> finally it timed out
[09:51] <CactusWiZaRd> i've got an small problem
[09:51] <picochu> arrinmurr:  on thing i like is that i can have my logs running trasparently
[09:51] <CactusWiZaRd> i have everything set for unrar, but it wont work
[09:51] <picochu> king_crimson: why don't you borrow a card and give it a try
[09:52] <king_crimson> picochu: every card in the house is an ATI :)
[09:52] <oboro> well, i don't know much of my way in linux, i've used a bit before, just started using it a few months ago, so i think i'll skip that till the final's out
[09:52] <king_crimson> i guess i can try my dad's 9600 xt
[09:52] <king_crimson> but i'll mess with that tomorrow
[09:52] <picochu> king_crimson:  no try a nvidia card
[09:52] <oboro> i'm not sure i'll know what to do if it breaks :(
[09:52] <king_crimson> dont have one :(
[09:52] <king_crimson> well i had a geforce 2 gts pro but it broke
[09:52] <d1rt> brother_of_jared:cool. now, all those listings at the top in [ ] 's are daemons. mostly used for the kde desktop. it seems like you need to install/configure xscreensaver or somekind of screensaver
[09:52] <picochu> king_crimson:  ask your friend  for a geforce card or something
[09:52] <king_crimson> i accidentally ripped a capacitor off it :(
[09:52] <sampan> oboro  then definitely install breezy instead -- you'll be able to upgrade to dapper as soon as it's released
[09:53] <king_crimson> picochu: he's got a radeon too lol
[09:53] <oboro> :) thank you
[09:53] <oboro> btw, anyway that i can help the ubuntu community?
[09:53] <picochu> king_crimson:  all my linux boxen runs on nv card. the driver is a lot better
[09:53] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: I'm not registered so cant respond to your private channel. maybe thats why you cant post in flood, but i saw it, anyway
[09:53] <king_crimson> but if it doesnt work with my 9200, im not gonna bother using the distro... im not gonna buy a new card just to use linux lol
[09:53] <brother_of_jared> dirt: ok? I was using the ones that are listed in Ubuntu Breezy.. the Matrix one or the blank screen
[09:54] <king_crimson> picochu: maybe i can get an updated driver from ati's website or something
[09:54] <picochu> king_crimson: you would have better luck with ati with intel chipset
[09:54] <oboro> is it just me, or are the ubuntuforums down?
[09:54] <arrinmurr> picochu: yeah, i guess it has it's uses. i'm afraid that my machine is starting to be too old for that kind of stuff though
[09:54] <king_crimson> argh... see thats the cool thing about windows. its not as picky with hardware as linux is :/
[09:54] <picochu> arrinmurr: nah it's just extras you won't die without it
[09:55] <brother_of_jared> I don't have a private channel
[09:55] <arrinmurr> picochu: yeah. i just meant that if i'd use it ;)
[09:55] <king_crimson> my 9200 is 100% flawless with XP
[09:55] <brother_of_jared> So d1rt, how do I fix this?
[09:55] <oboro> is there anyway to set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome?
[09:55] <oboro> or is it only avaliable in kde?
[09:55] <gaz> anyone know how i'd go about installing kde in ubuntu?
[09:55] <bluefoxicy> critical flaw in Nexenta found.  Grub can't boot solaris disk slices XD
[09:55] <vir> king_crimson,  nvidia :)
[09:56] <bluefoxicy> this is why linux works and random solaris shit doesn't.
[09:56] <Nameeater> king_crimson: you need to be more picky with hardware ;)
[09:56] <king_crimson> im an ATI fan... i really think the rendering quality is better
[09:56] <king_crimson> much better
[09:56] <vir> ati = crap linux support blame ATI
[09:56] <king_crimson> no linux just needs to be LESS picky lol
[09:56] <picochu> bluefoxicy: who needs slowlaris :_
[09:56] <oboro> gaz, apt-get install kubuntu-dekstop?
[09:56] <oboro> i think] 
[09:56] <Nameeater> its not linux's fault, as vir says its ATi who are the blame
[09:57] <Nameeater> nvidia make perfect linux drivers for their cards, and the difference in quality is probably neglegable
[09:57] <picochu> ATI don't even have crossfire for linux yet
[09:57] <picochu> and here i got a SLI box :)
[09:57] <king_crimson> i do have a REALLLY old pci s3 card i could try but im not gonna use a computer with that thing permanently installed. its from like 1996
[09:57] <vir> nvidia FTW :)
[09:57] <oboro> gaz , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/InstallingKDE
[09:57] <gaz> oboro, ty
[09:57] <picochu> king_crimson:  if you are not playing 3d games it's okay to run on good ole s3
[09:57] <oboro> np
[09:58] <picochu> king_crimson:  if you want to play 3D stuffs on linux, right now nvidia is the only wtg
[09:58] <king_crimson> picochu: can i have both cards installed, and tell linux only to use the s3? becuase when i dual boot to windows, i play a lot of need for speed most wanted
[09:58] <oboro> is there anyway to set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome, or is it just in kde?
[09:58] <picochu> king_crimson:  try qemu on windows and install ubuntu
[09:59] <king_crimson> picochu: i have about 3 linux distros installed on vmware already in windows :)
[09:59] <king_crimson> fedora debian and ubuntu
[09:59] <picochu> king_crimson: okay you're done basically not much other than a spankig new card :)
[10:00] <king_crimson> lol yeah. i guess i'll have to get one
[10:00] <dylan_> i have an issue with a device on sit0 that is supposed to be on wlan0 ... can anybody help?  it is a dlink dwl-g122 usb network adapter
[10:00] <vir> :)
[10:00] <vir> nvidia... ;)
[10:00] <oboro> what's the equvilant of synaptic on kde?
[10:00] <king_crimson> i cant spend too much money on a new card though... maybe $100
[10:00] <king_crimson> tops
[10:00] <picochu> king_crimson: 100 should do just fine
[10:00] <dylan_> oboro, kynaptic
[10:00] <oboro> thanx
[10:00] <brother_of_jared> d1rt.. are you still here?
[10:00] <oboro> what about adept?
[10:01] <oboro> isn't it the same?
[10:01] <dylan_> oboro, kynaptic is much better
[10:01] <picochu> king_crimson:  i spent 1k on mine :)
[10:01] <oboro> oh ok
[10:01] <king_crimson> lol youre crazy
[10:01] <oboro> one last thing
[10:01] <king_crimson> i want to get the radeon 1800 xt
[10:01] <apollyon> sorry to burst in mid-conversation :) but am having a problem with dapper, java & azureus
[10:01] <oboro> can i set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome? or is only a kde feature?
[10:01] <picochu> king_crimson:  i got a dual 7800
[10:01] <king_crimson> nice!
[10:01] <apollyon> thought maybe i'd see if those terms ring a bell with anyone runing the new alpha release?
[10:01] <picochu> king_crimson:  i mean 2 7800
[10:02] <oboro> can i set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome? or is only a kde feature?
[10:02] <king_crimson> hey are there any possible bios settings i could tweak to see if that helps?
[10:02] <picochu> king_crimson:  running doom on 1.6kx1.2k is cool :)
[10:02] <king_crimson> theres nothing i can really think of... but i'll ask anyway
[10:02] <king_crimson> lol
[10:02] <oboro> can i set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome? or is only a kde feature?
[10:02] <king_crimson> my 9200 is crap now. need for speed most wanted on 640x480 is borderline jerky
[10:03] <dylan_> can somebody help me please?
[10:03] <oboro> can i set different backgrounds for each desktop on gnome? or is only a kde feature?
[10:03] <king_crimson> oboro: i think you can? but others here would know better than me
[10:03] <dylan_> oboro, kde specific
[10:03] <brother_of_jared> oboro.. try it.. if it doesn't work the answer is "no you can't" :)
[10:03] <dan_> www.bleachtv.com
[10:04] <oboro> ok thanx
[10:04] <dylan_> i have an issue with a device on sit0 that is supposed to be on wlan0 ... can anybody help?  it is a dlink dwl-g122 usb network adapter
[10:04] <oboro> then i might be switching to kde after all
[10:04] <king_crimson> dylan_: debian tends to not like wireless stuff
[10:04] <dylan_> king_crimson, really why?
[10:05] <king_crimson> i had a HELL of a time getting my linksys wpc54g pcmcia card working on my debian laptop
[10:05] <dylan_> hmmmm
[10:05] <dylan_> any other better distros than ubuntu?
[10:05] <dylan_> should i do suse?
[10:05] <king_crimson> i cant answer your sit0/wlan0 question tho
[10:05] <dylan_> ah
[10:05] <king_crimson> im not too familiar with ubuntu, but i love debian personally
[10:06] <Orborde> If I'm trying to write a nice sound application thingy, should I use ALSA, ESD, or just drop data on /dev/dsp ?
[10:06] <Orborde> (I'm writing this at the level of waveform generators)
[10:06] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: ok im registered now. go over to the other window
[10:06] <picochu> Orborde: i done mine via openal
[10:06] <king_crimson> Orborde: i'd say ALSA
[10:07] <djkure> me  too :)
[10:07] <iKernel> meow
[10:07] <picochu> Orborde: at least openal is cross platform
[10:07] <vultaire> question: I'm having issues with DivX - I followed wiki.ubuntu.com's RestrictedFormats page, but playback of a DivX video in totem is very sluggish and unsynced
[10:07] <Orborde> picochu: Is openal part of SDL?
[10:08] <picochu> Orborde: nope is a seperate lib by itself.. with 3d sound support
[10:08] <Orborde> king_crimson: Hm...okay. I can't seem to find any real documentation on the ALSA API, of course....
[10:08] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: or type:"/msg d1rt <your message>"
[10:08] <picochu> Orborde:  it does other stuffs like doppler shift and stuffs llike that
[10:08] <king_crimson> Orborde: cant really help you with the API.. sorry, dont know anything about it
[10:09] <d1rt> brother_of_jared: but it sounds like you should leave it running when you're there and see when it cuts out
[10:09] <king_crimson> i'm a VB6 developer anyway :(
[10:09] <king_crimson> i really gotta learn C
[10:09] <Orborde> king_crimson: Thanks anyway
[10:09] <Orborde> picochu: Well, I'm just trying to get a write buffer, really.
[10:10] <Nameeater> theres such things as VB _developers_?
[10:10] <Orborde> picochu: I'm experimenting with computer audio at a low level.
[10:10] <picochu> Orborde:  remember with /dev/dsp only one program at anyone time..... esd and arts are alot more flexible
[10:10] <king_crimson> lol Nameeater... VB6 is great if you know what you're doing... its slow but you can do anything in it
[10:10] <Orborde> picochu: Ubuntu uses esd, doesn't it?
[10:10] <king_crimson> you just gotta now how to use it
[10:10] <picochu> but having that said, KDE devs are dropping arts since it is not widely maintained
[10:10] <picochu> Orborde:  yes
[10:10] <Orborde> picochu: And what does ESD DO, anyways?
[10:11] <picochu> Orborde:  basically it is a sound daemon
[10:11] <king_crimson> oh wtf, debian is giving me corrupt video too! man it worked like 2 weeks ago!!
[10:11] <king_crimson> damn i'll have to get an nvidia card
[10:11] <picochu> Orborde:  if can you can send sound from one computer to an esd on another puter and it will play
[10:12] <picochu> oops
[10:12] <picochu> typo
[10:12] <Orborde> picasso: So it's X for sound?
[10:12] <picochu> what i mean was in fact
[10:12] <picochu> Orborde: something like that
[10:13] <dylan_> what is hardware address 776?
[10:13] <Orborde> picochu: What's the corresponding library for esound? X has libXft or whatever...
[10:13] <picochu> Orborde:  but i guess the main drawback would be the latency
[10:14] <ejofee> does any program written for mono work on win xp with .net installed?
[10:14] <vultaire> got a problem: I got the DivX codec installed, but video playback is horridly out of sync.  Any ideas?
[10:14] <Orborde> picochu: Yeah, sending sound over a network seems a little iffy.
[10:16] <nir_> i've got a prob with my wifi; it detects all the network around (including mine), but i cant connect to encrypted ones (including mine) ; only to non-encrypted
[10:16] <Zeusz> hy all
[10:16] <Zeusz> I have a problem
[10:16] <picochu> well Orborde  i have no idea what the dependencies are .... but if you got gnome installed it's usually there
[10:16] <nir_> also, the 'configuring network interface' at booting is lasting for a couple of minutes
[10:16] <Zeusz> My parrents with some keyboard combination turned off the keyboard
[10:16] <picochu> Orborde: as for me. I lean towards openAL...
[10:16] <Zeusz> how do i turn it on
[10:16] <C-O-L-T> qnext is better than kopete / gaim?
[10:17] <rabeldable> anyone know of a reliable p2p file share app for linux?
[10:17] <king_crimson> oh sweet i got debian working right!
[10:17] <apollyon> amule
[10:17] <king_crimson> i dont even know what i did
[10:17] <apollyon> anyone else running 64-bit Ubuntu?
[10:17] <king_crimson> it just started working
[10:17] <picochu> apollyon:  it is paintful running ubuntu in x86-64bit
[10:18] <thad> anyone available who can help me figure out how i broke su?
[10:18] <Orborde> thad: su or sudo?
[10:18] <Orborde> picochu: Can you point me to any Handy Docs on it?
[10:18] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell thad about rootsudo
[10:18] <picochu> Orborde: which one?
[10:18] <apollyon> i haven't had problems running ubuntu here... ?
[10:18] <thad> well, both kind of...
[10:19] <picochu> Orborde:  but what do you really want?
[10:19] <apollyon> except with this Java error on Azureus
[10:19] <thad> i used the command line to add myself to the root group..
[10:19] <Orborde> picochu: I want an interface that I can just feed raw sample data to.
[10:19] <king_crimson> i know this is an ubuntu channel, not debian... but does anybody know why i cant get debian to work in greater than 800x600?
[10:20] <king_crimson> ive always had this problem
[10:20] <thad> and after that, i kept getting errors about being unable to access certain things, such as aRts.
[10:20] <king_crimson> i configure everything right in xf86config
[10:20] <king_crimson> i think anyway
[10:20] <Orborde> king_crimson: Does it work in Windows?
[10:20] <king_crimson> i'm using the default radeon driver
[10:20] <king_crimson> Orborde: yes
[10:20] <Orborde> king_crimson: Hm.
[10:20] <king_crimson> its the weirdest thing
[10:21] <king_crimson> i cant really stand 800x600.. i need 1024x768
[10:21] <Orborde> king_crimson: I could send you my xorg.conf to examine. I have an ATI card.
[10:21] <rabeldable> king_crimson, what happens when you set to 1024x768?
[10:21] <Nameeater> paste your xorg.conf some where
[10:21] <king_crimson> could you do that, orborde? thanks!
[10:21] <king_crimson> rabeldable: nothing, i cant set it
[10:21] <thad> then i found that i was getting my password rejected when i had to type it in for things like adept.
[10:21] <selinium> ubotu tell king_crimson about ati
[10:21] <king_crimson> "Screen resolution" in xwindows just gives me the choice of 800x600 or 640x480
[10:22] <thad> so i tried to use sudo from the command line and got the same problem: my password was "wrong"
[10:22] <picochu> Orborde:  http://www.tux.org/~ricdude/EsounD.html , http://www.openal.org
[10:22] <king_crimson> oops sorry the file type's ignored let me fix that orborde!
[10:22] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell king_crimson about fixres
[10:22] <selinium> king_crimson, read what ubotu sent you , you may find some info in there to help.
[10:22] <gnomefreak> both of them :)
[10:22] <king_crimson> ok
[10:23] <thad> i looked through the forums earlier (before they died) and got some info about /etc/sudoers. so i used a knoppix cd to be able to edit it, but it actually looks right.
[10:23] <king_crimson> Orborde: i turned off ignore
[10:23] <selinium> Good Morning Gnome based freak
[10:23] <selinium> gnomefreak, ^^^^
[10:24] <gnomefreak> good morning selinium :)
[10:24] <juif> hello, i have just installed kubuntu, server only option on an old machine with an ATI rage video card. how do i install the video X server thing ?
[10:24] <king_crimson> thanks Orborde
[10:24] <juif> so that i can use it to run GUI based apps
[10:25] <Orborde> king_crimson: Note that I'm not using the default driver. However, you should not have to change the driver. Look at the screen modes bit.
[10:25] <hume> this might be a bit off topic (or not) - but I would like to install a wiki - anyonw knows about resources to overview which wiki to choose? erfurt, media, php, tiki.....?
[10:25] <Orborde> hume: Clearly mediawiki!
[10:25] <wingkeat> hi all
[10:25] <hume> Orborde, how come
[10:25] <Orborde> hume: Er...I really have nothing useful to say. So...yeah.
[10:25] <juif> want x , you mean gnomefreak ? :)
[10:25] <selinium> juif, try sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start   and see if it boots the gnome display manager
[10:25] <Orborde> hume: Well, I like MediaWiki more than any other wiki I've used.
[10:25] <gnomefreak> yeah that too
[10:25] <thechris> Orborde: mediawiki is my favorite as well
[10:25] <juif> dont kubuntu come stipped of all things gnome ? i will try.
[10:26] <gnomefreak> selinium: off a server install it better not :)
[10:26] <gnomefreak> kubuntu comes fully packaged
[10:26] <hume> Orborde, .:) do you know about the possibilities for closing sections of mediawiki, closed group work?
[10:26] <juif> command not found
[10:26] <selinium> juif, not sure what the server install 'installs'
[10:26] <juif> yeah
[10:26] <gnomefreak> selinium: no gui at all
[10:27] <juif> i wanted to go kubuntu but its a server with a 3 gig HD
[10:27] <Orborde> hume: I don't know anything about the technical specs. I just find MediaWiki the most useable.
[10:27] <gnomefreak> juif: how much ram?
[10:27] <king_crimson> ok Orborde, im gonna compared my xorg.conf file with yours real quick see if i can find a problem
[10:27] <hume> Orborde, ok, thx.
[10:27] <king_crimson> thanks again
[10:27] <juif> 256MB RAM
[10:27] <selinium> jif what are you trying to configure?
[10:27] <Orborde> hume: I think Wikimedia has an entire site devoted to Mediawiki, if you want to know more about it.
[10:27] <juif> 450mhz celeron
[10:27] <selinium> juif what are you trying to configure?
[10:28] <selinium> gnomefreak, I haven't woken up yet, obviously! :)
[10:28] <Orborde> juif: Probably don't want to bother with a GUI on that, since it's a server.
[10:28] <gnomefreak> juif: i want to say the command is something like sudo apt-get install xserver
[10:28] <selinium> juif: have you looked at webmin?
[10:28] <gnomefreak> lol selinium i havent fell asleep yet :(
[10:28] <king_crimson> juif: yeah do not use a GUI... my server just runs debian in console mode. its all you need
[10:29] <juif> i want it to... in fact... i dont think i need any GUI based apps, its a server... or i just forgot cause i just smoked a joint... in any case, i just tried aptget xserver and it gives me options
[10:29] <selinium> juif: it is best not to install x on the server.
[10:29] <albacker> !mplayer
[10:29] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[10:29] <thad> i looked at the wiki page for rootsudo, but it didn't tell me anything i needed to know...if this is caused by my adding myself to the 'root' group, should it be able to be fixed by removing myself from that group?
[10:29] <juif> xserver-xorg
[10:29] <twitch101> so could anyone point me to someone willing to explain how to use gftp for me cause i cant get it to work and i dont understand where i put what? is there another ftp client more similar to flashfxp that is all i have used
[10:29] <juif> and xserver-xorg-core
[10:29] <Orborde> king_crimson / juif : You could even install x-using programs on it and forward the connections to a machine that can handle it, should you so desire...
[10:29] <gnomefreak> juif: if its gonna be used as a server dont bother with X at all
[10:30] <juif> yeah, i just realised that i shouldnt
[10:30] <king_crimson> yeah my server box just sits there at the login prompt churning out pages with apache2... thats about it
[10:30] <king_crimson> oh and an FTP server
[10:30] <Orborde> thad: What's wrong with it?
[10:30] <selinium> twitch101, you can use nautilusif you want.
[10:30] <Orborde> thad: Oh. I see.
[10:30] <twitch101> is it in the synaptics?
[10:30] <thad> heh
[10:30] <juif> well, i guess that solves that :) see you later :) thank you
[10:31] <selinium> twitch101, are you using Ubunut or Kubuntu?
[10:31] <twitch101> ubuntu live cd
[10:31] <twitch101> 5.04
[10:31] <king_crimson> im pretty stupid. where is my xorg.conf file supposed to be? :)
[10:31] <twitch101> hoary hedgehog
[10:31] <king_crimson> i tohught it was /etc/X11
[10:31] <Orborde> thad: Are you SURE you're punching in the correct password to sudo?
[10:31] <king_crimson> ?
[10:31] <selinium> twitch101, ok
[10:31] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:31] <Orborde> thad: And make sure you're using sudo, not su. su tries to log you directly in as root, but there is no root password in Ubuntu.
[10:32] <thad> 0rborde: definitely. after the first time i got an error, i slowed down and made sure i was hitting every key correctly.
[10:32] <king_crimson> hmmmmmmm
[10:32] <selinium> twitch101, Places/Connect to Server/   its pretty simpler from there...
[10:32] <king_crimson> xserver-xorg is not installed WTF?
[10:32] <king_crimson> thats what dpkg is telling me!
[10:32] <twitch101> thx ill try cause im connecting to an xbox
[10:33] <selinium> ok
[10:33] <twitch101> can i leave folder blank?
[10:33] <DjDarkman> hy ,what fstab options do i have to give to a cd/dvd drive to make it mount/unmontable to all users?
[10:33] <Orborde> thad: Try "su your_username"
[10:33] <Orborde> thad: Maybe you broke your own password.
[10:34] <VIRUS_MASTER> no spike romaniam ?
[10:34] <VIRUS_MASTER> romanian
[10:34] <DjDarkman> VIRUS_MASTER: try ,maybe i understand
[10:34] <thad> 0rborde: ok. first off, though, is there a file i can edit to remove myself from the root group?
[10:34] <selinium> twitch101, yep
[10:34] <Phuzion> What are some essential packages to install for a server?
[10:35] <Orborde> thad: System->Administration->Users and Groups should do it.
[10:35] <VIRUS_MASTER> ms zbye all
[10:35] <DjDarkman> Phuzion: it depends what kind of a server do you want
[10:35] <selinium> ubotu tell Phuzion about lamp
[10:35] <Phuzion> Already got Apache, PHP, and MySQL installed.
[10:35] <twitch101> it froze
[10:35] <selinium> Phuzion, read what ubotu has sent you  :)
[10:36] <thad> 0rborde: actually, that's one of the problems i'm having. if i click on 'administration mode' in that panel and enter the password, i get an error.
[10:36] <selinium> Phuzion, So they are the essentials! :)
[10:36] <Orborde> thad: Oh...yeah. Tee hee.
[10:36] <Phuzion> Anyone know of a good IRC server?
[10:36] <Orborde> thad: I think it's /etc/group
[10:36] <Orborde> thad: But you need root access to do it.
[10:36] <king_crimson> phuzion: unrealircd
[10:36] <DjDarkman> someone knwos the fstab option that makes the device mountable to all users?
[10:36] <iKernel> I found an image to ascii art converter. GAAT. :)
[10:36] <Orborde> thad: In fact, your problem will probably be pretty hard to solve without root access....
[10:37] <selinium> Phuzion, Take a look at webmin as well
[10:37] <Phuzion> Alright
[10:37] <Phuzion> I heard that one's a little hard to configure
[10:37] <iKernel> nope
[10:37] <king_crimson> i actually run my IRC server on a windows box instead of my linux box, i was too stupid to get services working on the linux server
[10:37] <thad> 0rborde: i think i just found the problem. i seem to have added myself to 'root', but deleted myself from 'sudo'
[10:38] <king_crimson> IRCXpro is a fantastic windows irc server
[10:38] <Orborde> thad: That sounds reasonable.
[10:38] <twitch101> MIRC is to
[10:38] <king_crimson> twitch101: mirc is a client
[10:38] <picochu> selinium:  webmin is a POS
[10:38] <iKernel> silly!
[10:38] <iKernel> what's a POS?
[10:38] <twitch101> o i thought he asked for a client nvm
[10:39] <vir> hehe
[10:39] <picochu> piece of s***
[10:39] <twitch101> i use easynews for a server
[10:39] <iKernel> plenty of clients
[10:39] <thad> 0rborde: aaaand every other group i was in beforehand...can you open up your /etc/groups and tell me which i need to be added to, or should i just go ahead and add myself to all of them?
[10:39] <Phuzion> Suppose I install ratbox ircd
[10:39] <selinium> picochu, lol, if you want a graphical front end and you dont know your command line.....
[10:39] <Phuzion> Where should I place it?
[10:39] <Phuzion> ./etc/ratbox?
[10:40] <Phuzion> minus the .
[10:40] <picochu> selinium:  webmin scripts are pretty much screw a lot of stuffs
[10:40] <picochu> i mean screwed for a lot of stuffs
[10:40] <iKernel> no
[10:40] <gnomefreak> pssssst ratbox is a WM?
[10:40] <iKernel> /etc is where you put all your config stuffs
[10:40] <Phuzion> Where would I put it then?
[10:40] <gnomefreak> nm im thinking ratposion :(
[10:41] <selinium> picochu, ok, I used it a will back. I use command line now. But it is nice to no allis not well with webmin. :)
[10:41] <picochu> selinium:  i prefer remote X over ssh
[10:41] <picochu> selinium:  if you do want gui
[10:41] <picochu> selinium:  there's always vnc too
[10:41] <DjDarkman> someone knwos the fstab option that makes the device mountable to all users?
[10:41] <selinium> why would you want a gui on a server? :) If that was the case I'd use freenx
[10:41] <selinium> :)
[10:41] <Orborde> thad: How about that?
[10:42] <thechris> DjDarkman: users
[10:42] <RobinL> hi
[10:42] <RobinL> i have a little problem
[10:42] <RobinL> a very irritating problem
[10:42] <RobinL> with a little package called xscreensaver
[10:42] <picochu> selinium:  no reason ... just in case you do a brain dead admin
[10:42] <iKernel> :P
[10:42] <DjDarkman> thechris: thats all?
[10:42] <RobinL> with a little... IRRITATEDNESS!
[10:42] <thechris> DjDarkman: actually, "user"
[10:42] <picochu> s/do/have
[10:42] <RobinL> cuz.. y'see, if it goes on the screensaver, it crashes
[10:42] <iKernel> RobinL: Get to the point
[10:42] <RobinL> and, the xscreensaver dialog, it crashes also
[10:42] <RobinL> so i can't set it
[10:42] <thechris> DjDarkman: but honestly i think automout, or hal/ivman is the better choice
[10:42] <RobinL> and i hate to reboot every time i went away
[10:43] <Orborde> RobinL: Uninstall it.
[10:43] <RobinL> k
[10:43] <selinium> ubotu tell RobinL about enter
[10:43] <RobinL> alright the rat is gone
[10:43] <RobinL> xD
[10:43] <RobinL> thanks :p
[10:43] <Karyook> Hello, I only /dev/sda*
[10:43] <Karyook> how can I mount the USB ?
[10:43] <Orborde> ubotu: Tell orborde about enter
[10:43] <king_crimson> arg whats the proper capitalization for running bitchx-gtk?
[10:43] <king_crimson> i forget
[10:44] <king_crimson> i tohught it was BitchX-gtk
[10:44] <king_crimson> but its not
[10:44] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: xbitchx
[10:44] <Karyook> king_crimson, dpkg -L bitchx
[10:44] <king_crimson> thx
[10:44] <king_crimson> sweet it worked
[10:44] <picochu> telnet :)
[10:44] <thechris> Karyook: it did not automatically mount the USB device?
[10:44] <Karyook> thechris, no
[10:44] <king_crimson> telnetting to IRC Servers is fun
[10:44] <thad> 0rborde: great...if i can figure out how to edit it..why wouldn't sudo gvim mnt/hdb1/etc/group work?
[10:44] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: i use bitchx gtk alot well used to now i fell in love with irssi :)
[10:44] <Phuzion> Alright, where should I place an IRCD?
[10:45] <picochu> king_crimson:  gui is for lusers :)
[10:45] <thechris> Karyook: odd.  have you tried mounting from the CLI?
[10:45] <king_crimson> i'll check out irssi
[10:45] <whatwhat> there are another messenger.msn to linux that suport webcam like the mercury suport ?
[10:45] <Karyook> thechris, my harddisk is /dev/sda
[10:45] <gnomefreak> picochu: bitchx-gtk isnt gui :(
[10:45] <Karyook> i have no /dev/sdb..f
[10:45] <JoeBlow> Karyook, whats the problem?
[10:45] <Orborde> thad: Er...I don't know?
[10:45] <Karyook> JoeBlow, how to mount a USB ?
[10:45] <picochu> king_crimson:  it isn't?
[10:46] <king_crimson> its like pseudo-gui
[10:46] <king_crimson> its weird
[10:46] <JoeBlow> Karyook, no clue, sorry
[10:46] <gnomefreak> picochu: no its just colorful compared to bitchx
[10:46] <picochu> Karyook:  when you plugin your usb disk what does dmesg show?
[10:46] <Karyook> one sec picasso let me try..
[10:46] <king_crimson> man i really love mirc.. mardem-bay should port it to linux :)
[10:46] <king_crimson> mirc >>> all others
[10:47] <thad> 0rborde: ok, got it working with kwrite. thanks!
[10:47] <picochu> king_crimson: you can just use gaim as an irc client
[10:47] <Orborde> thad: It's fixed now?
[10:47] <RobinL> gtkBitchX
[10:47] <RobinL> :)
[10:47] <picochu> gaim :)
[10:47] <arrinmurr> king_crimson: ha. konversation is the best (of the graphical ones) ;)
[10:47] <Karyook> picasso, no
[10:47] <gnomefreak> mirc is garbage and its not cheap garbage either
[10:47] <king_crimson> gaim actually has pretty decent IRC
[10:47] <picochu> Karyook:  what do you mean no?
[10:47] <king_crimson> mirc is garbage?
[10:47] <king_crimson> youre nuts
[10:48] <RobinL> mirc IS garbage
[10:48] <king_crimson> whats wrong with mirc
[10:48] <RobinL> it's completely cluttered
[10:48] <RobinL> :
[10:48] <RobinL> :x*
[10:48] <RobinL> and super-bloated
[10:48] <gnomefreak> mirc is garbage sorry to inform you of that
[10:48] <king_crimson> its kind of bloated, but i dont run into any issues with it
[10:48] <RobinL> gaim irc? never tried that
[10:48] <thad> 0rborde: crap. no, i can't save it..
[10:48] <RobinL> how to use gaim irc?
[10:48] <king_crimson> its fast and doesnt use much RAM
[10:49] <king_crimson> RobinL: set up a new account in it, and tell it its an IRC account
[10:49] <vassilis> anybody else having problems wth their help files?
[10:49] <RobinL> king_crimson: one per serv?
[10:49] <vassilis> whenever I try to load one it hangs and does not respond
[10:49] <king_crimson> RobinL: yes
[10:49] <DjDarkman> gnomefreak: mirc is a very good irc client ,too bad it does`nt has a linux version
[10:49] <RobinL> that sux y'know
[10:49] <thad> 0rborde: here's the error: Error: "/tmp/ksocket-knoppix" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[10:49] <thad> Creating link /root/.kde/socket-Knoppix.
[10:49] <thad> Created link from "/root/.kde/socket-Knoppix" to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[10:49] <king_crimson> one time i tried mirc running under wine lol... it worked, but slowly
[10:49] <king_crimson> not worth it
[10:50] <gnomefreak> DjDarkman: mirc and xchat are very similar in parts both are bloated for what they do and both are slow for a chat client
[10:50] <RobinL> king_crimson: i tried that..
[10:50] <RobinL> but..
[10:50] <thad> 0rborde: how would i change my uid to 1000 under a livecd?
[10:50] <RobinL> the fonts were screwed
[10:50] <RobinL> and..
[10:50] <RobinL> it just didn't run
[10:50] <RobinL> :p
[10:50] <king_crimson> hmm
[10:50] <king_crimson> weird.. ive never had a prob with it
[10:50] <RobinL> it crashed when i tried to connect
[10:50] <gnomefreak> one other thing why would you pay to chat?
[10:50] <RobinL> cuz there are cracks
[10:51] <DjDarkman> gnomefreak: xchat`s scripting is nothing compared to mirc
[10:51] <king_crimson> gnomefreak: who pays for software? lol
[10:51] <gnomefreak> xchat is free for windows now
[10:51] <gnomefreak> lol
[10:51] <king_crimson> just find a serial and punch it in
[10:51] <picochu> gnomefreak:  the same reason you pay to have virus installed in your os
[10:51] <RobinL> ROFL
[10:51] <RobinL> i read something somewhere, that company's can buy virusses
[10:51] <RobinL> :p
[10:52] <cvt|kde> lost sound. losing it frequently
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > test
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > hmm
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > gaim irc
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > kinda neat :p
[10:52] <gnomefreak> one thing i will stand very very strong on i will never pay for a chatclient ever its not worth it
[10:52] <king_crimson> see? it works, robin!
[10:52] <picochu> i read somewhere av company pay people to write viruses
[10:52] <king_crimson> i like it's IRC interface
[10:52] <Karyook> picasso, nothing shows in dmesg when I plugin usb
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > yup
[10:52] <Toma-> DjDarkman, no-one that uses xchat really wants "Dr CoOlMaNs Colour scipt v4.0" type of scripts :D
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > me too
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > but xchat-gnome is cool too
[10:52] <RobinL[gaim] > :p
[10:52] <picochu> Krhis:  do you have usb-storage module installed  in your kernel?
[10:52] <king_crimson> i dont really like xchat's interface, but thats just me
[10:53] <picochu> Karyook:  do you have usb-storage module installed  in your kernel?
[10:53] <Karyook> picasso, yes it`s loaded
[10:53] <RobinL[gaim] > xchat-gnome is cool
[10:53] <gnomefreak> <<not really fond of that either :(
[10:53] <RobinL[gaim] > but the chat suxx
[10:53] <DjDarkman> Toma-: i didn`t mean thos type of scripts
[10:53] <Karyook> # lsmod | grep usb
[10:53] <Karyook> usb_storage            64704  0
[10:53] <RobinL[gaim] > i liked the kopete irc.. but... too bad it's for KDE :(
[10:53] <belwar> Hello, just a quick question, when I install ubuntu, for some reason I can't bump my rez any higher than 640x480...any idea why? I could before...just with this install it won't allow it. :(
[10:53] <Toma-> DjDarkman, wat kind of scripts then....
[10:53] <picochu> Karyook: have you tried another usb disk?
[10:53] <king_crimson> i'm using bitchx-gtk right now... i dont like it as much as gaim
[10:53] <king_crimson> i think i'll install that
[10:54] <gnomefreak> Toma-: i think he meant the base scripts
[10:54] <RobinL[gaim] > who's using KDE here? and who's liking it and who hates it?
[10:54] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: try irssi :)
[10:54] <RobinL[gaim] > irssi is TOOOOOOOOOOO command-line based
[10:54] <king_crimson> ok i'll get irssi
[10:54] <Karyook> picasso, yes..
[10:54] <arrinmurr> RobinL[gaim] : nothing stops you from running it under gnome
[10:54] <DjDarkman> Toma-:  for example it`s a lot easier to write autologin autojoin scripts aliases and things like this
[10:54] <king_crimson> i wonder if aptitude has irssi
[10:54] <Karyook> picochu, yes
[10:54] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: dont need to get it if your on ubuntu :)
[10:54] <picochu> Karyook:  does it work?
[10:54] <rixth> Okay okay, off topic, but who likes Iggy Pop?
[10:54] <rixth> http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9223/iggypop42dl.jpg
[10:54] <Karyook> NO
[10:54] <rixth> taken yesterday by moi =D
[10:54] <king_crimson> im actually on debian, gnomefreak
[10:54] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: open terminal and type irssi
[10:54] <Karyook> i t is a general problem..
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > arrinmurr: well..... bloatedness & kde services being runned
[10:55] <thad> my dog's name is Iggy
[10:55] <Toma-> Settings > Advanced > User commands.... is that too hard? :/
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > ahh
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > ^^
[10:55] <thad> Iggy Pups
[10:55] <belwar> irssi is balls, anyone directing someone to use irssi should be shot.
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > aww
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > :)
[10:55] <thad> he wants to be my dog.
[10:55] <gnomefreak> i use screen/irssi :) and btw robin they have a gtk version of irssi
[10:55] <king_crimson> gnomefreak: aptitude says irssi is text mode, and the GTK version hasnt been developed since 2000 :/
[10:55] <gnomefreak> belwar: whats wrong with it?
[10:55] <RobinL[gaim] > what do you guys think is the best GTK irc client?
[10:55] <king_crimson> i dont know if i wanna mess with that
[10:55] <arrinmurr> RobinL[gaim] : ha. well, some dedicated irc client would be better anyway
[10:56] <RobinL[gaim] > arrinmurrsome: true :P
[10:56] <belwar> Well I can see this channel is like tits on a boar, won't get no help here....
[10:56] <cvt|kde> anyone else have sound?
[10:56] <Toma-> RobinL[gaim] , xchat. it works + has features
[10:56] <arrinmurr> belwar: irssi is great when run on a 24/7 machine in screen
[10:56] <RobinL[gaim] > T-R-U-E-
[10:56] <RobinL[gaim] > -T-R-E-U-
[10:56] <king_crimson> screw this... downloading gaim :)
[10:56] <RobinL[gaim] > BUTTTTTTT... is there some thing like screen for X?
[10:57] <picochu> Karyook: do you have a usb mouse or keyboard does it work?
[10:57] <gnomefreak> im thinking that would defeat the purpose of screen :(
[10:57] <ph8> hi all, i'm hoping someone can help me with some issues i've had installing grsec, the forum link is here -> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120373
[10:57] <j2daosh> hey got some dumb questions if someone wouldn't mind answering them. (1) in the hosts.deny file... can i add serveral ips on the same line and just seperate them with a comma? (i.e- ALL: 202.110.131.27, 211.63.252.38, 219.142.173.112, 210.118.169.153, 80.233.247.80, 80.191.68.130,) (2) im my auth.log im noticing alot of sessions being opened for run but they are being called for by CRON. How do i look at my cron to see what is calli
[10:57] <j2daosh> ng for root access? (3) what is (pam_unix) refering to in my auth.log?
[10:57] <thad> 0rborde: any ideas?
[10:57] <RobinL[gaim] > gnomegeek: true... but it would be cool
[10:58] <picochu> RobinL[gaim] :  well is gaim good enough?
[10:58] <ompaul> RobinL[gaim] , , there are lots of terminals you can use
[10:58] <RobinL[gaim] > pikachu: yea
[10:58] <Karyook> picochu, haven`t tried..
[10:58] <RobinL[gaim] > ampal: true :p
[10:58] <Karyook> any way..
[10:58] <king_crimson> much better. gaim.
[10:58] <Karyook> I will debug it and come back..
[10:58] <picochu> Karyook:  you might have a faulty usb port or something
[10:58] <RobinL[gaim] > welcome back sing_singsome ^^
[10:58] <picochu> king_crimson:  loooser :P
[10:59] <Karyook> picasso, i have 6 ports..
[10:59] <picochu> Karyook:  just covering all the possiblities
[10:59] <Karyook> ok
[10:59] <king_crimson> is there any linux distro that'll work on a 286 with 1 MB of ram?
[10:59] <picochu> Karyook:  or you might have load the wrong usb driver
[10:59] <Karyook> picochu, thank you any way...
[10:59] <Mr-Falkor> why is the forums down ?
[10:59] <picochu> Karyook:  no problemo
[10:59] <gnomefreak> 1mb ram no
[10:59] <king_crimson> damn
[10:59] <king_crimson> didnt think so.
[11:00] <picochu> king_crimson: yes on ipaq
[11:00] <gnomefreak> king_crimson: turnning that pc on with 1 mb ran is not easy
[11:00] <MacSlow> the english ubuntu-forum is still dead
[11:00] <j2daosh> minix maybe?
[11:00] <Toma-> king_crimson, lfs
[11:00] <king_crimson> minix needs more ram
[11:00] <MacSlow> Anybody knows what's causing the drop-out?
[11:00] <king_crimson> lfs?
[11:00] <king_crimson> i'll check that out
[11:00] <Toma-> linux-from-scrath
[11:00] <Toma-> err
[11:00] <Toma-> scratch
[11:00] <picochu> gnomefreak:  freedos
[11:01] <gnomefreak> freedos is a terminal only and no apps
[11:01] <gnomefreak> at all
[11:01] <picochu> king_crimson:  linux needs at least a 386
[11:01] <Toma-> dir/w : command not found
[11:01] <Toma-> :O
[11:01] <albacker> guys page of mplayer is mplayer.hq ?
[11:01] <king_crimson> i use the 286 as an IRC occasionally... i wrote a DOS IRC client in quickbasic for it. you wouldnt believe how much of a pain in the a$$ it is interface QB with TCP packet drivers.. seriously. it took forever
[11:01] <gnomefreak> as for lfs i dont even think that will run on 1 mb ram
[11:01] <picochu> gnomefreak:  you can still play old dos game like alleycat, burger time, pacman.....
[11:02] <gnomefreak> picochu: ok yeah you could i forgot dos had games :(
[11:02] <Toma-> alleycat was the bomb
[11:02] <sagarp> man earlier today i was messing aroudn with transset and things liek that, and suddenly my firefox menus became transparent...was that some random awesome bug, or a feature?
[11:02] <king_crimson> you should see the client i wrote for it though. it's sweet. multiple windows for PM/channels and full drop-down menus and stuff. :)
[11:02] <king_crimson> a fun quickbasic project
[11:03] <matteo> Hi all
[11:03] <picochu> heck i had an apple that runs on 32KB of ram
[11:03] <thad> can someone look at this error and give me some advice for a workaround?
[11:03] <thad> Error: "/tmp/ksocket-knoppix" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[11:03] <thad> Creating link /root/.kde/socket-Knoppix.
[11:03] <thad> Created link from "/root/.kde/socket-Knoppix" to "/tmp/ksocket-root"
[11:03] <picochu> check out http://www.the-underdogs.org
[11:03] <king_crimson> underdogs.org is awesome
[11:03] <matteo> is the ubuntuformus.org down?
[11:04] <Orborde> thad: Sorry. I wandered off. Can you do a sudo under the live CD?
[11:04] <picochu> ayone played elite? :)
[11:04] <willywobatt> yes orborde
[11:04] <willywobatt> Side note (don't eat me) anyone know php.. php channel is awfully quiet :[] 
[11:04] <thad> 0rborde: yeah, that's what i did. "sudo kwrite /mnt/hdb1/etc/groups"
[11:05] <scorp007> hey all, I'm having some trouble installing the nvidia drivers on ubuntu...i followed the guide in the wiki but it didn't work
[11:05] <Orborde> thad: Try sudo pico or sudo vi
[11:05] <king_crimson> well, i'm gonna mess with fixing the screen resolution tomorrow. i'm just gonna boot back into winXP for now
[11:05] <picochu> Orborde: nano is better :)
[11:05] <DarkNoise> .
[11:06] <Nameeater> i thought pico was nano in ubuntu
[11:06] <vir_> nano is easier by far
[11:06] <Orborde> Wait...are we going to have a pico-vs-nano war now?
[11:06] <willywobatt> Because nano and pico are soooooo different
[11:06] <picochu> Orborde:  :D
[11:06] <Orborde> emacs vs vi is dumb enough....
[11:06] <vir_> gnome vs kde
[11:06] <vir_> :D
[11:06] <picochu> but pico isn't free
[11:06] <willywobatt> linux vs winows (winnar)
[11:07] <Orborde> vir_: At least there's a difference.
[11:07] <vir_> true
[11:07] <thad> 0rborde: no pico, but vi opens up what looks like a blank file...?
[11:08] <vir_> we could always have a bsd vs linux....that would be amusing
[11:08] <scorp007> should sudo nvidia-glx-config enable output any info? I don't get any output
[11:08] <gnomefreak> thad: check the path again
[11:09] <gnomefreak> picochu: what do you mean pico isnt free?
[11:09] <Orborde> thad: sudo vi /whatever/etc/group ...
[11:09] <thad> 0rborde: oops. yeah, it's group singular, not groups plural. heh.
[11:10] <thad> 0rborde: ok, let me edit this one and try to save...
[11:10] <thad> 0rborde: nope, this isn't letting me edit the file.
[11:10] <Orborde> thad: You realize it's Orborde, not 0rborde, right? :)
[11:10] <gnomefreak> thad: did you use the command i
[11:11] <Orborde> thad: vi is a little wacky
[11:11] <picochu> gnomefreak:  pico license isn't free
[11:11] <gnomefreak> thad: vim/vi is not really user freindly
[11:11] <thad> 0rborde: i'm sorry. the font is tiny. it looked like an 0 to me.
[11:11] <gnomefreak> picochu: ok thats what i thought just wanted to make sure :(
[11:11] <Orborde> thad: go sudo vi whatever, then press i, then do your editting, then press escape, then :wq
[11:11] <scorp007> vim is awesome...just takes a bit of getting used to
[11:11] <Orborde> thad: And you're still calling be 0rborde :)
[11:11] <gnomefreak> thad: use gedit or nano both are much easier to use
[11:11] <anders> what player do you guys use for aac?
[11:12] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell anders about restricted
[11:12] <picochu> gnomefreak:  pico and pine are not open source software
[11:12] <thad> Orborde: haha. sorry. girlfriend yammering about something in the background. got distracted.
[11:12] <gnomefreak> picochu: correct
[11:13] <picochu> gnomefreak:  nano is gpl if i am not wrong
[11:13] <gnomefreak> nano is gpl
[11:13] <willywobatt> i can beat you all
[11:13] <willywobatt> wine notepad
[11:13] <picochu> which is why i encourage pico users to use nano
[11:14] <Orborde> thad: Well, I have to go to bed. I hope you fix it. Good night.
[11:14] <picochu> later
[11:14] <gnomefreak> it all depends on what im doing what i use :)
[11:14] <thad> orborde: ok. thanks for your help! what's the command to write to file in vi real quick?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> thad: i
[11:15] <mwe> thad: :w
[11:15] <Orborde> thad: i allows you to write text in, :w saves it.
[11:15] <gnomefreak> mwe: isnt i insert in vim?
[11:15] <thad> just type ":w"?
[11:15] <picochu> any joe user here? :)
[11:16] <mwe> gnomefreak: Yes I though he was asking for writing the file
[11:16] <thad> hm. nope.
[11:16] <picochu> king_crimson:  is on windows :)
[11:16] <king_crimson> hehe
[11:16] <king_crimson> yes
[11:16] <gnomefreak> he did mwe im just not sure if he meant write the file (save) or write the file (fix)
[11:16] <thad> ah, ok. alt.
[11:16] <picochu> king_crimson:  care to play a wmv file ;)
[11:16] <king_crimson> other than running servers, i dont see much reason to use linux over windows xp
[11:16] <king_crimson> LOL picochu
[11:17] <Orborde> king_crimson: Heresy! Heresy!
[11:17] <picochu> king_crimson:  nice nekkid lady
[11:17] <gnomefreak> <<perfers eric over joe anyday :)
[11:17] <king_crimson> honestly, microsoft really impressed me with XP
[11:17] <oceandead> hey everybody - anyone know whats up with the forums?
[11:17] <picochu> king_crimson:  you aint seen Mac OSX yet
[11:17] <gnomefreak> :( let me change that i perfer erica over either
[11:17] <king_crimson> nope i havent seen OS X
[11:17] <oceandead> hahaha king :)
[11:18] <king_crimson> come on, why all the windows hate? why cant OS'es live together in harmony
[11:18] <picochu> king_crimson:  osx is cool.... much better than xp.... minus all those games :P
[11:18] <albacker> !mplayer
[11:18] <ubotu> mplayer is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[11:18] <thad> hmm..i don't think it worked.
[11:18] <gnomefreak> OS X is nice just very highly priced
[11:18] <Orborde> king_crimson: Because one of them doesn't like to get along with the rest.
[11:18] <mwe> lot's of reasons for using linux. licensing, security and performance to name a few
[11:18] <oceandead> i dont hate - just think it could be * a lot * better
[11:18] <king_crimson> Orborde: heh thats true
[11:18] <picochu> gnomefreak:  i didn't say it's cheap
[11:19] <gnomefreak> :)
[11:19] <oceandead> and thats putting it mildly
[11:19] <whatwhat> o0
[11:19] <whatwhat> 0o
[11:19] <king_crimson> mwe: actually i get much better performance with XP than any linux ive tried
[11:19] <gnomefreak> i was able to find hacked versions of xp never OS X tho
[11:19] <king_crimson> ok but MUCH
[11:19] <king_crimson> but its better
[11:19] <picochu> freebsd ru13z u lin00x n00bs sux00r s :)
[11:19] <king_crimson> lol freebsd
[11:19] <oceandead> hahaha
[11:19] <gnomefreak> freebsd is cool
[11:19] <mwe> king_crimson: that's really odd. It uses way more resources
[11:19] <whatwhat> picochu i like my ubuntu
[11:19] <Woozle> has anyone had a problem with firefox not recognizing that java is installed?
[11:20] <picochu> whatwhat: yeah... you aint 1337 :P
[11:20] <anders> has anybody here patched taglib to add m4a support?
[11:20] <king_crimson> until i buy an nvidia card, i think i'll get all my linux enjoyment via vmware in windows :P
[11:20] <oceandead> not i woozle
[11:20] <gnomefreak> Woozle: did you run update-alternatives --config java?
[11:20] <whatwhat> picochu if you are one 1337 ... you don day thta because if you are smart you can lear whith kids to
[11:21] <king_crimson> l1nu>< 15 2 1337 4 u
[11:21] <whatwhat> picochu if you are one 1337 you know you cant know everything
[11:21] <Woozle> I need to create a softlink in plugins dir I think
[11:21] <thad> ok. at least i figured out what the problem is. now i just need to figure out how to be able to edit a locked file in my kubuntu system from knoppix.
[11:21] <picochu> whatwhat:  i can compile helloworld... i am t3h 1337 :)
[11:21] <thad> oh! i have an idea.
[11:21] <gnomefreak> lol @ hello,world :)
[11:22] <mwe> king_crimson: what card do you have?
[11:22] <whatwhat> picochu lol
[11:22] <Karyook> picochu, want me to print output of lsusb ?
[11:22] <picochu> Karyook:  no not really but did it detect the usb devices?
[11:22] <thad> no, never mind. can't su to a user not listed in the knoppix system, i guess.
[11:22] <king_crimson> mwe: radeon 9200
[11:23] <king_crimson> i've just noticed that linux is always realllly buggy
[11:23] <Karyook> the system is running webservices so I couldn`t restart to test keyboard /mouse
[11:23] <king_crimson> even tho its a really sweet OS
[11:23] <mwe> king_crimson: ok. my radeon 9600 mobility performs great with the ati binary driver though
[11:23] <king_crimson> mwe: the driver from ati.com?
[11:23] <picochu> Karyook: hmmm are those usb mouse and kb?
[11:23] <king_crimson> when i say really buggy, i mean with hardware support
[11:23] <mwe> king_crimson: yeah. but it's in the repos as well
[11:24] <mwe> king_crimson: in restricted I believe
[11:24] <picochu> mwe:  repos are usually one or two revisions late
[11:24] <king_crimson> cool ill install that driver tomorrow
[11:24] <king_crimson> see what happens
[11:24] <king_crimson> that could also be part of my performance issue
[11:24] <mwe> picochu: yeah. I you need the latest driver, go to ati.com
[11:24] <picochu> shaddup lame windows user :)
[11:24] <mwe> picochu: I did
[11:24] <king_crimson> because windows xp always performs way better for me than linux
[11:24] <Trackilizer> Are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:24] <king_crimson> which doesnt seem right
[11:25] <picochu> we should take voice away from lame xp users :)
[11:25] <mwe> picochu: I'm running a custom kernel so I had to anyway
[11:25] <king_crimson> haha
[11:25] <picochu> mwe:  rgr that
[11:25] <king_crimson> picasso: i'm not a lame XP user. i use BOTH
[11:25] <king_crimson> er
[11:25] <king_crimson> not picasso, lol
[11:25] <picochu> lol
[11:25] <king_crimson> i meant picochu
[11:25] <Trackilizer> Is there an app out there that can help one setup daul screens?
[11:25] <picochu> see he's lame, cant even spell my name right
[11:25] <king_crimson> 14m3
[11:26] <picochu> j00 r 14m3
[11:26] <king_crimson> no u r!
[11:26] <stgraber> Need support on #pr3dators-klan.com after Quakenet probs on #pr3dators-klan.et ... (sorry for amsg and ad)
[11:26] <picochu> heh
[11:26] <katie_> Just a quick Q. Write error in the file /home/katie/Desktop/Dawn.Of.The.Dead.2004.UNRATED.DVDRip.XViD-RiVER/river-dotd.avi [R] etry, [A] bort - nay ideas/
[11:27] <stgraber> oops
[11:27] <stgraber> this message was for qnet only :)
[11:27] <bozel> hi
[11:27] <king_crimson> katie_: your HDD could be corrupted
[11:27] <king_crimson> like physically
[11:27] <picochu> where's MIAA when we need them?
[11:27] <bozel> ich habe probleme einen samba-server einzurichten
[11:27] <bozel> kann jemand helfen?
[11:27] <picochu> or is that RIAA?
[11:27] <king_crimson> ich spreche keine deutsch
[11:27] <arrinmurr> bozel: try #ubuntu-de
[11:27] <thad> does anyone know why opening a file using sudo wouldn't give me write access to that file?
[11:27] <bozel> oh sorry
[11:28] <king_crimson> ich kenne nur ein bischen deutsch :(
[11:28] <bozel> i ve problems to configure a samb-server
[11:28] <bozel> *samba
[11:28] <bozel> can anybody help me?
[11:28] <dwerf> does somebody know why it's still firefox 1.07 in the repositories?
[11:28] <picochu> king_crimson:  i know heil hitler :)
[11:28] <king_crimson> lol
[11:28] <gnomefreak> thad: use gedit no vim
[11:28] <Morrowyn> whats the problem? error message etc .... might be more helpful that way
[11:29] <gnomefreak> dwerf: it is not stable enough for breezy
[11:29] <king_crimson> honestly i dont know much about samba configurations.... i had to follow a howto to get it right
[11:29] <gnomefreak> hell its not stable enough for dapper :(
[11:29] <katie_> eh?
[11:29] <katie_> why
[11:29] <bozel> smbclient -L localhost
[11:29] <picochu> I've yet to try AD with SAMBA
[11:29] <katie_> I mean i could boot into this this morning,...
[11:29] <mwe> king_crimson: did you install the ati driver? the one in the repos is fine even though it's not the latest
[11:29] <thad> gnomefreak: no gedit on the livecd. :(
[11:29] <bozel> if i try smbclient -L localhost
[11:29] <Trackilizer> When will the ubuntu forums be back up?
[11:29] <king_crimson> there are some crazy smart people here who can help you though, bozel
[11:29] <bozel> it says, that i cant connect to localhost
[11:29] <klaym> hey I'm in need of advice with k3b! I've installed k3b and cdrdao (something k3b says it needs for burning), but now k3b says cdrdao will not be run with root privileges, and hence the burning process is instabile. Can't fix this via options. Any ideas how?
[11:29] <gnomefreak> thad: use nano than
[11:29] <monzie> hi all
[11:29] <king_crimson> mwe: no im in windows xp right now. i'll mess with that tomorrow
[11:30] <Morrowyn> bozel, make sure the samba daemon is running
[11:30] <dwerf> gnomefreak > so does that mean the 1.5 isn't stable enough yet or ubuntu can't cope with it?
[11:30] <monzie> try running k3b as root klaym
[11:30] <mwe> king_crimson: there's a wiki that explains how. It's not too hard
[11:30] <bozel> how?
[11:30] <Morrowyn> ( ps -aux | grep smbd )
[11:30] <klaym> monzie: yep, of course :) thanks
[11:30] <bozel> i tried /etc/init.d/samba restart
[11:30] <gnomefreak> dwerf: 1.5 will run ok but there are alot of depends issues with it
[11:30] <picochu> mwe:  with keboros ldap and AD?
[11:30] <monzie> sudo k3b works for me klaym
[11:30] <king_crimson> i wish there could be some awesome linux-based OS that has full support for windows apps and supports all windows xp API's
[11:30] <scorp007> dwerf, check the wiki FirefoxNewVersion for how to install 1.5...it works fine
[11:30] <king_crimson> :(
[11:30] <king_crimson> i can dream
[11:31] <thad> gnomefreak: nor nano neither.
[11:31] <dwerf> gnomefreak > ok cool
[11:31] <philuk86> is ubuntu forums down?
[11:31] <klaym> yes, seems to work now for me too
[11:31] <mwe> picochu: I was talking about the ati driver
[11:31] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell dwerf about ff1.5
[11:31] <Morrowyn> king_crimson,  www.ms-linux.org
[11:31] <bozel> no ideas?
[11:31] <picochu> mwe:  oh :P
[11:31] <dwerf> thanx
[11:31] <picochu> can someone add to motd that the forum is down?
[11:31] <king_crimson> Morrowyn: that site wont load
[11:31] <gnomefreak> dwerf: if you upgrade it to 1.5 you need to keep 1.0.7 on there also
[11:31] <katie_> how do i delete my windows partition from here?
[11:31] <king_crimson> oh i found it.. its mslinux.org
[11:31] <Morrowyn> http://www.mslinux.org/
[11:31] <odat> hi everyone
[11:31] <monzie> try using gparted katie_
[11:31] <Morrowyn> type, my bad
[11:32] <Morrowyn> type/typo
[11:32] <dwerf> gnomefreak > yeah i'm reading that right now
[11:32] <odat> is the forums down?
[11:32] <monzie> hi odat
[11:32] <odat> monzie, sup
[11:32] <irvin> exit
[11:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: because ubuntu design is broken, not having the old gecko engine as a seperate package
[11:32] <Morrowyn> and maybe :  reactos
[11:33] <king_crimson> lol is mslinux.org just a joke site?
[11:33] <thad> gnomefreak: i've used kwrite and vi and both were unable to save changes, so i don't think it's an issue with the editor.
[11:33] <dwerf> gnomefreak > but FF 1.5 (or later) will be included in the repositories once it's stable enough?
[11:33] <king_crimson> Morrowyn: i've tried reactos.. it doesnt really work well
[11:33] <king_crimson> it doesnt even have full networking support yet
[11:33] <dwerf> gnomefreak > and that must happen eventually, right?
[11:33] <Morrowyn> ok, i have never tried it though
[11:33] <Trackilizer> HDB1 which is a FAT32 partion with all my data was already mounted when i booted ubuntu, but how do i give all users permission to read and write on this partition?
[11:33] <mwe> dwerf: no. ubuntu design is broken. it breezy _needs_ 1.0.7 to be around
[11:34] <gnomefreak> dwerf: they were going to put it in at one point im not sure now tho
[11:34] <oceandead> thad: you need privs to save whatever it is youre trying to save?
[11:34] <odat> damn it the forums are still down
[11:34] <dwerf> gnomefreak > so is this an ubuntu or mozilla issue?
[11:34] <katie_> ntfs is windows right? so what's ext3?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> dwerf: no it doesnt have to happen sice 1.5 is not 1.0.7 update
[11:34] <gnomefreak> mozilla/ubuntu
[11:34] <Morrowyn> ext3 is a journaling ext2 fs iirc
[11:34] <king_crimson> yes ntfs is windows. ext3 is a "journaling" file system thats mostly used by unix based OS'es
[11:34] <oceandead> ext3 is journaling fs (default used by ubuntu)
[11:34] <thad> oceandead: yes. and sudo isn't letting me do that.
[11:34] <Morrowyn> and ext2 is a unix filesystem
[11:34] <Trackilizer> HDB1 which is a FAT32 partion with all my data was already mounted when i booted ubuntu, but how do i give all users permission to read and write on this partition?
[11:35] <katie_> so i should keep ext3?
[11:35] <Morrowyn> yup or reiserfs :)
[11:35] <mwe> dwerf: it's partly because ubuntu is badly designed at that point.
[11:35] <oceandead> Trackilizer, change fstab
[11:35] <oceandead> should be on the wiki
[11:35] <katie_> brb reboot
[11:35] <dwerf> mwe > badly designed in what way?
[11:35] <mwe> dwerf: but it wouldn't hurt if FF developers actually started thinking, not changing the api all the time
[11:35] <Morrowyn> Trackilizer,   -o gid=<yourusersgroup>  in fstab under options iirc
[11:36] <gnomefreak> mwe: 1.6 has same api as 1.5 lol
[11:36] <monzie> sure,
[11:36] <mwe> dwerf: IMO gecko and FF should be seperate packages, allowing easy updates to FF
[11:36] <king_crimson> microsoft should really adopt a journaling FS
[11:36] <oceandead> ms should do a lot of things
[11:36] <monzie> and so that differnet browsers can call gecko in a uniform way, mwe
[11:36] <mjr> king_crimson, um, like NTFS?
[11:36] <Morrowyn> i dont care what ms does or dont
[11:36] <dwerf> mwe > well FF is still very young, i guess that as time goes by it will become more solid
[11:36] <monzie> NTFS has journalling support IMHO
[11:37] <king_crimson> NTFS is journaling?
[11:37] <gnomefreak> i think they need to take the word linux off of thier product
[11:37] <king_crimson> wtf? didnt know that..
[11:37] <mwe> dwerf: hopefully
[11:37] <GTroy> hey guys is there a channel for trading/buying hardware?
[11:37] <dwerf> mwe > there's a lot of computers to be served for mozilla...
[11:37] <oceandead> Morrowyn, youd be happy if ms committed seppuku - admit it ;)
[11:37] <Morrowyn> as long as 3rd party application builders develop for other platforms instead just focus on windows ...
[11:37] <dwerf> mwe > i'm really happy about the great open source breakthough they've started
[11:37] <gnomefreak> MS linux will not fall under the gpl there for should not have the word linux in it at all
[11:37] <mwe> dwerf: yeah
[11:38] <thad> does knoppix not let you write to hard disk-stored files by default, maybe?
[11:38] <Morrowyn> oceandead, if ms went broke, i wouldnt mind, but they will never go broke
[11:38] <Morrowyn> thing is
[11:38] <Morrowyn> the alternatives kinda suck
[11:38] <Morrowyn> if you look at how easy it is to code shit for windows
[11:38] <mwe> Morrowyn: well os X is really cool IMO
[11:38] <Morrowyn> mac is expensive
[11:38] <dwerf> mwe > more high quality apps are becoming multi-platform; people start thinking, 'how can this really high quality software be so superior to what i've always paid so much for?'
[11:38] <monzie> can someone please point me to some online/offline resources about how the USB systems in ubuntu generally work?
[11:39] <mwe> Morrowyn: too bad it doesn't run on IA computers
[11:39] <Morrowyn> and yes osx has neat api's though
[11:39] <dwerf> mwe > ... and for free?
[11:39] <Morrowyn> i mean, take .net
[11:39] <monzie> the udev scripts in general
[11:39] <oceandead> ack
[11:39] <vladuz976> how to i set ftp to use TLS/SSL ?
[11:39] <Morrowyn> man, vb coders can use c++ libs
[11:39] <Morrowyn> and the framework is fairly easy to use
[11:39] <mwe> dwerf: yeah.
[11:39] <Morrowyn> and the framework is huge
[11:39] <gnomefreak> macs will be running a p4 in thier boxes
[11:39] <bris> salut all
[11:40] <Morrowyn> now, you have java on the other side, nice huge framework
[11:40] <Morrowyn> but, thats just 1 lang
[11:40] <mwe> dwerf: I wish my favorite games would run on linux
[11:40] <mwe> dwerf: and photoshop
[11:40] <dwerf> mwe > but many do through wine
[11:40] <noppo> how to uninstall Evolution without uninstalling ubuntu-desktop?
[11:40] <mwe> dwerf: not enough.
[11:40] <oceandead> they dont run through wine or cedega mwe?
[11:40] <king_crimson> i did some reading.... NTFS isnt true journaling like ext2/3
[11:40] <Morrowyn> there is no nice "linux api"  around that makes life easy for new linux developers, in comparison to win32 api / .net  or java
[11:41] <king_crimson> its meta-data journaling
[11:41] <mwe> dwerf: only like 1/1000
[11:41] <mwe> oceandead: no
[11:41] <gnomefreak> noppo: ubuntu-desktop can be uninstalled its not needed
[11:41] <mwe> oceandead: most don't
[11:41] <monzie> let ubuntu-desktop get uninstalled noppo , its just a meta package
[11:41] <dwerf> mwe > you are right - i as an animator am still bound to the evil OS for quite a few packages
[11:41] <oceandead> mwe: i hear ya, thats the only problem ive had
[11:41] <Morrowyn> i run maya on ubuntu and photoshop via crossover office / wine , works fast and peachy
[11:41] <mwe> oceandead: cedeaga has what? Maybe like 50 games running without any issues
[11:42] <Morrowyn> and i have shake for video compositing
[11:42] <oceandead> but really - the games and hardware vendors need to do more
[11:42] <lauri_> Trackilizer, Add dmask=000,fmask=111 hdb1's options in fstab.
[11:42] <dwerf> mwe > but recent studies have shown that many apps running on wine are actually faster than in XP
[11:42] <mwe> oceandead: and still it's not performing as good as in native windows
[11:42] <oceandead> and as more and more people switch to linux and or mac (darwin/osx) they will eventually have to start
[11:42] <dwerf> Morrowyn > WHAT?
[11:42] <mwe> dwerf: reaaly. I don't feel that though
[11:42] <captainredbeard> vlc is really ugly, where can I get one that isn't?
[11:42] <noppo> gnomefreak, monzie, so it's safe to uninstall ubuntu-desktop? why is it installed anyway?
[11:43] <phoenix_eternity> I'm a little bit confused about the ability to read SD-Cards under linux. I read that there are no "SD card drivers" out there... but at the same time I read that people happily access their SD-Cards via a USB-Card reader. I was always under the impression that there is no other way to read such a card via USB. I do have a USB Card reader and I am not able to read my SD-Card. So am I doing something wrong or what? If I connect the SD-Card
[11:43] <phoenix_eternity>  via the DigiCam through USB I see a new USB Device in dmesg, but no mass-storage associated, and if I put the SD-Card into the card-reader dmesg reports nothing at all.....
[11:43] <ejofee> how do i scp into another computer on the lan from konqueror?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !ubuntu-desktop
[11:43] <ubotu> it has been said that ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage. It depends upon other packages and brings them in; you can safely remove it, but it is recommended that you re-install it when ugprading.
[11:43] <thad> what's the command to mount a drive with read/write access?
[11:43] <gnomefreak> phoenix_eternity: no pasting
[11:43] <oceandead> what do you mean by not performing as good - video? fps? overall sluggishness?
[11:43] <mwe> dwerf: actually what I run in wine run considerably slower and more sluggish
[11:43] <phoenix_eternity> gnomefreak: I just wrote it... but thanks...
[11:43] <captainredbeard> vlc is really ugly, where can I get one that isn't?
[11:43] <oceandead> ah
[11:43] <gnomefreak> !paste
[11:43] <ubotu> from memory, paste is please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[11:43] <dwerf> mwe > there are many issues, but don't forget that the open source community must battle professional organisations that have thousands of people that work full-tim in sleek offices
[11:43] <Morrowyn> dwerf, maya is native for linux, as well as xsi, im still waiting for native photoshop etc., but photoshop runs just a s fast and smoothly via cxoffice on ubuntu
[11:43] <mjr> phoenix_eternity, probably you've heard people use other kinds of memory cards instead
[11:44] <johns^> ejofee: sftp://<adress>
[11:44] <dwerf> cxoffice? never heard of that.
[11:44] <mwe> dwerf: yes I know. wine is a great effort
[11:44] <Morrowyn> cxoffice is commercial wine
[11:44] <Morrowyn> same developers, but cxoffice comes with a nice installer and such
[11:44] <phoenix_eternity> mjr: I'm absolutly positive that I read that they read "SD-Cards"
[11:44] <ejofee> johns^: oh, thanks.
[11:45] <dwerf> Morrowyn, mwe > maybe cxoffice is something to try for mwe...
[11:45] <mjr> phoenix_eternity, maybe they've mistaken then
[11:45] <monzie> it's just a metapackage noppo , it's like if you install "ubuntu-desktop" you get all the default ubuntu packages
[11:45] <monzie> just like gnome-devel noppo
[11:45] <captainredbeard> !vlc
[11:45] <ubotu> from memory, vlc is a video/audio player that supports almost everything - See http://www.videolan.org/ for more information (VLC is in the repos)
[11:45] <mwe> dwerf: no. it's aimed at MS office and such. I don't need that. I can do with OO.org
[11:45] <Morrowyn> yeah, you moight wanna do that, its easier to use than wine aka it saves you reading a manual :P
[11:46] <thad> ah HA! think i got it...
[11:46] <Morrowyn> the guys from cxoffice open sourced their thing and dubbed it wine
[11:46] <dwerf> Morrowyn, mwe > aren't there more commercial wine-based apps that offer better support than wine itself?
[11:46] <oceandead> hehe so some website i just came across has a ip>hostname resolver (mine doesnt resolve to a hostname) - but also has a section for location - it says Location: South Africa (95% accuracy)
[11:47] <Morrowyn> since cxoffice is wine
[11:47] <mwe> dwerf: yeah. but I haven't found any that can run the latest dreamweaver and photoshop
[11:47] <xophEr> Is it possible to configure an app so when I run it it always shows up on a specific desktop?
[11:47] <Morrowyn> and there is cedega (wineX) that is solely for win32 directx gaming on linux
[11:47] <dwerf> Morrowyn, mwe > the wait isn't over i guess
[11:47] <klaym> hey why is it that when I select all the audio files I'm about to burn, I get 106mb as their size. but when I'm making an audio cd, the size exceeds 700mb? :P
[11:47] <Morrowyn> never tried it though
[11:48] <oceandead> are they mp3s?
[11:48] <Morrowyn> but they convert the directx calls to opengl calls basically
[11:48] <klaym> oceandead: yes
[11:48] <mwe> dwerf: no. the guys are getting there. but are not quite there yet
[11:48] <dwerf> Morrowyn, mwe > i'm running win commander on wine, what about that? ;-)
[11:48] <ejofee> how do i watch movies i find on the internet without downloading them to my hdd (i mean, directly through http or ftp, as though i am viewing it instead of downloading it)?
[11:48] <oceandead> klaym, and youre burning an audio cd?
[11:48] <Morrowyn> mightnight commander :D
[11:48] <Morrowyn> midnight^
[11:48] <gnomefreak> mp3 converting to aac?
[11:48] <oceandead> klaym, or a data cd?
[11:48] <klaym> oceandead: yes, with serpentine
[11:48] <phoenix_eternity> mjr: http://www.mozillaquest.com/Hardware04/SanDisk_USB_SD_Reader_Story02.html
[11:48] <klaym> oceandead: audio. would data be better then?
[11:48] <mwe> dwerf: I must admit I have vmware for what I can't live without
[11:49] <dwerf> mwe > vmware is fantastic
[11:49] <dwerf> mwe > but pricy
[11:49] <mwe> dwerf: right
[11:49] <oceandead> klaym, in order to burn audio (that you can hear through any cd player) the burning prog has to uncompress the mp3
[11:49] <mwe> dwerf: It's worth the price for me
[11:49] <oceandead> this adds to the filesize
[11:49] <klaym> ah
[11:49] <KSean> Hey :S
[11:50] <KSean> I broke my firefox - how can I fix it? :X
[11:50] <mwe> KSean: reinstall it?
[11:50] <KSean> How?
[11:50] <mwe> KSean: and clean the profile maybe
[11:50] <monzie> completely reomove it via synaptic and then install it again KSean
[11:50] <KSean> It says it will remove ubuntu-desktop though
[11:50] <KSean> :S
[11:51] <mwe> KSean: Rename your ~/.mozilla. then suod apt-get --reinstall --install firefox IIRC
[11:51] <KSean> ok
[11:51] <dwerf> mwe > hey, just checking their site, i didn't know your could run windows in linux...
[11:51] <mwe> KSean: or rather sudo apt-get --reinstall install firefox
[11:51] <KSean> ok
[11:51] <KSean> thanks
[11:51] <bris> The new version of Ubuntu will choose it core according to the processor? Ex: i386, i38-smp, i686 and i686-smp. Like SuSE or Mandriva?
[11:51] <ejofee> is it possible to (quite) safely write on ntfs yet?
[11:51] <mwe> dwerf: no? running windows 2000 it runs very well too
[11:51] <dwerf> mwe > what's VMware player?
[11:52] <dwerf> mwe > it's a free app
[11:52] <mwe> dwerf: it can open a virtual machine you already have
[11:52] <scorp007> mwe, there is a free vmware player you know...
[11:52] <dwerf> mwe > meaning it's not fully functional?
[11:52] <mwe> dwerf: Actually if you put some work into it you can create the vm with qemu then use it in vmware player
[11:52] <mwe> dwerf: it is
[11:53] <mwe> dwerf: but you can't install a guest os from the player
[11:53] <oceandead> ubuntu runs on the free vmware player :)
[11:53] <dwerf> mwe > i remember it being very expensive a while ago
[11:53] <KSean> mwe - Firefox still won't load
[11:53] <KSean> :S
[11:53] <dwerf> mwe > so the installing of OS's is difficult?
[11:54] <thad> sigh. nope. still haven't figured it out.
[11:54] <scorp007> does anyone know why my boot hangs at 'checking battery state' (not laptop) after I installed nvidia drivers from repository?
[11:54] <mwe> dwerf: a little
[11:54] <rixth> Do Sony Vaio laptops play nice with Ubuntu?
[11:54] <mwe> dwerf: you need the free qemu from ubuntu
[11:55] <dwerf> mwe > but i'd eventually effectively have the same features as with the commercial version?
[11:55] <mwe> dwerf: to create the vm. then hack the config file
[11:55] <n00b> DAMN Cedega iS SHIT
[11:55] <mwe> dwerf: but then it runs flawlessly
[11:55] <rixth> n00b, maike something better then.
[11:55] <rixth> Or stop complaining.
[11:55] <n00b> i have
[11:55] <metal> hi
[11:55] <n00b> i made a windows partition
[11:55] <oceandead> rixth, check the wiki and see if your laptop is on there
[11:55] <rixth> Hah, sure buddy.
[11:55] <vir_> then use.... it...
[11:56] <blekos> do u know any backup tool with gui?
[11:56] <metal> does ubuntuforums.org work for you?
[11:56] <oceandead> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam
[11:56] <rixth> oceandead, I haven't got one yet, I'm consdiering it. Thanks though
[11:56] <mwe> dwerf: you can't create snapshot's
[11:56] <rixth> Ubuntu support is paramount to me.
[11:56] <oceandead> oh well - check the above link
[11:56] <n00b> i am using it but i sux balls (cedega) coz 5 of the "supported" games dont work
[11:56] <vir_> use it and fragment your drive n00b
[11:56] <vir_> :P
[11:56] <mwe> dwerf: but apart from that about the same
[11:56] <thad> quick question: do ext3 partitions mounted using those tools for windows retain their permission restrictions?
[11:57] <vir_> if game companies supported linux... then we wouldn't need cedega
[11:57] <dwerf> the flawlesness of VMware is striking
[11:57] <dwerf> mwe >the flawlesness of VMware is striking
[11:57] <mwe> dwerf: indeed
[11:57] <bob_> I think I entered the wrong thing in the "Full Name" part of the installation... anyone know how to change that information?
[11:58] <dwerf> mwe > i remember linux running 100% perfectly on my evil OS
[11:58] <KSean> Can anyone help? I messed up firefox and it won't load :S
[11:58] <dwerf> mwe > and it goes both ways
[11:58] <mwe> dwerf: I'd say I have at least about 75% the performance of native windows
[11:58] <dwerf> mwe > it's technically speaking not an amulator, right?
[11:58] <thad> KSean: have you tried using automatix (or kautomatix)?
[11:58] <n00b> no its just crap
[11:58] <KSean> thad - No, what's that?
[11:58] <robotgeek> !automatix
[11:58] <ubotu> somebody said automatix was messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[11:58] <LichiMan> hi all
[11:59] <mwe> dwerf: dirextx support is still experimental though
[11:59] <thad> i had some issues with automatix, but kautomatix worked great for me.
[11:59] <owner> i believe automatix is safer to use than before
[11:59] <owner> it doesnt set a root pass
[11:59] <KSean> How does that have anything to do with firefox? :S
[11:59] <thad> KSean: since the forums are down, try googling or wikipedia-ing it.
[11:59] <bob_> whast with the forums, they are constantly down
[11:59] <dwerf> mwe > what percentage of apps uses ActiveX extensively?
[12:00] <mwe> dwerf: it's a virtual machine. so it's not emulating windows. it is actually running windows the real thing
[12:00] <thad> KSean: it's a program that will install a lot of applications/plugins that the default ubuntu installations leave out.
[12:00] <vir_> activeX = sucky
[12:00] <vir_> :P
[12:00] <mwe> dwerf: mostly games
[12:00] <KSean> Firefox was working yesterday though
[12:00] <oceandead> which reminds me - i have to update my laptop page
[12:00] <mwe> dwerf: vmware is not that great for games at this point
[12:00] <KSean> It messed up when  I did this - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:00] <mwe> dwerf: photoshop and dreamweaver run great though
[12:01] <dwerf> mwe > but photoshop, cinema 4D and other apps run smoothly on it?
[12:01] <n00b> hey have any of you guys tried Gentoo?
[12:01] <owner> vmware doesnt have any 3d harware acceleration
[12:01] <owner> photoshop works
[12:01] <Revellion> i have tried and i use it aswell as i use debian and ubuntu
[12:01] <Revellion> nofear:
[12:01] <Morrowyn> dwerf,  eeeuw c4d ;) j/k
[12:01] <Revellion> n00b:
[12:01] <dwerf> mwe > does VMware have full hardware support?
[12:01] <mwe> owner: actually it has experimental support for directx :)
[12:01] <thad> KSean: wish i could help you fix it, but i'm not really good at fixing stuff yet. still in the "how many different ways can i break it?" phase of my linux education.
[12:01] <KSean> :S
[12:01] <dwerf> mwe > i mean, if linux is using my network card, can windows in VMware too?
[12:02] <owner> really mwe even vmware player
[12:02] <Revellion> dwerf: yes it can
[12:02] <n00b> is gentoo harder to install than ubuntu? like really hard?
[12:02] <Revellion> dwerf: using TAP
[12:02] <mwe> dwerf: it only has experimental support for 3d but apart from that, yes
[12:02] <KSean> Firefox messed up when I did this, and now it doesn't load :S - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:02] <mwe> owner: I don't know about the player
[12:02] <lesshaste> is there any software that can detect interlacing in a video?
[12:02] <Revellion> n00b: depends on your familiarity with the distro :)
[12:02] <Revellion> n00b: and generic structure of a distro :D
[12:02] <n00b> Revellion, i have only been using linux for a week?
[12:02] <thad> k. i need to go to bed. i'll be back to bug people for help in a few hours. :-P
[12:02] <n00b> i am a total n00b
[12:03] <Revellion> n00b: dont try it then :)
[12:03] <oceandead> might want to hold off on gentoo
[12:03] <dwerf> Morrowyn, I hace 3D as an extension to my work, not as a core, therefore after using Maya for three years, i swithched to Cinema 4D - it's just a lot less technical and improving constantly
[12:03] <mwe> KSean: you want the old version back?
[12:03] <Revellion> n00b: warm yourself with ubuntu first
[12:03] <KSean> I went back to the old version
[12:03] <KSean> And now it won't load
[12:03] <KSean> :S
[12:03] <n00b> Revellion, seriously? is the documentation that difficult?
[12:03] <dwerf> Morrowyn, but Maya is great
[12:03] <n00b> Revellion, i have problems with ubuntu aswell... :S
[12:03] <mwe> KSean: did you sudo rm /usr/bin/firefox && sudo dpkg-divert --remove /usr/bin/firefox?
[12:03] <owner> ksean did you manage to get ubuntu to install
[12:03] <mwe> KSean: you need to do that
[12:04] <KSean> owner - yes
[12:04] <KSean> mwe - ok
[12:04] <Revellion> n00b: well
[12:04] <Revellion> n00b: for me it was quite easy
[12:04] <Revellion> i used gentoo before i used ubuntu :\
[12:04] <Revellion> and before gentoo..
[12:04] <owner> ksean how did you get it to install
[12:04] <Revellion> don't even ask :S
[12:04] <KSean> server
[12:04] <n00b> Revellion, how long have you been using linux?
[12:04] <KSean> then i edited sources.list
[12:04] <KSean> commented out the cdrom line
[12:04] <oceandead> haha Revellion, do tell
[12:04] <KSean> sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[12:04] <KSean> lol.
[12:04] <oceandead> you cant leave us with a cliffhanger like that
[12:05] <owner> thats weird
[12:05] <Revellion> n00b: at the current point in time...
[12:05] <Revellion> n00b: 7 years
[12:05] <vir_> n00b if you find ubuntu don't think about running gentoo :P
[12:05] <Morrowyn> dwerf, i run maya natively on ubuntu, it runs very nice, i had to do create 1 file, since it comes with rpms, which you need to alien to debs and i forgot to execute the scripts
[12:05] <Morrowyn> but apart from that
[12:05] <vir_> hard
[12:05] <n00b> vir_ i've only been using ubuntu and linux for a week now...
[12:05] <Morrowyn> i run photoshop 7 through wine/cxoffice
[12:06] <Morrowyn> and the latest wine/cxoffice runs extremely fast
[12:06] <KSean> Cannot launch entry
[12:06] <KSean> Details: Failed to execute child process "firefox" (No such file or directory)
[12:06] <KSean> :S
[12:06] <dwerf> Morrowyn, so what happened?
[12:06] <KSean> Firefox gets that error now lol
[12:06] <owner> ksean type whereis firefox
[12:06] <vir_> you don't know enough yet you'll have probs with gentoo :P
[12:06] <Morrowyn> i only use those two programs for my 3d animating stuff
[12:06] <owner> in a terminal
[12:06] <Morrowyn> well, mental ray needed a file, which wasnt created
[12:06] <mwe> dwerf: I really think the qemu, vmware player hack is worth the work
[12:06] <n00b> is gentoo all CLI or GUI... is windows harder?
[12:06] <oceandead> first experience was with knoppix - (cheating, i know) - then debian (didnt last long - about a month) - then ubuntu have been running ubuntu nearly a yr now  and i friggin love it
[12:06] <n00b> jk
[12:06] <KSean> owner
[12:07] <dwerf> mwe > i am definitely going to try
[12:07] <mwe> n00b: the gentoo installation process is very tedious. not that hard though
[12:07] <n00b> so which distro is better than ubuntu? (in terms of power)
[12:07] <KSean> it says firefox: /usr/lib/firefox  /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz
[12:07] <dwerf> mwe > always looking for ways to get rid of mister Gates hanging at my sleeve
[12:07] <oceandead> depends on what youre gonna use it for?
[12:07] <KSean> I'll try sudo apt-get lol
[12:07] <mwe> dwerf: search the forums. I don't have the link handy
[12:07] <Morrowyn> you might wanna wait for modo  , which should come to linux this q1 of 2006 , they have a beta out iirc
[12:07] <dwerf> mwe > ok cool
[12:07] <n00b> mwe, are there instruction for the installatin procedure or do you have to know your linux well?
[12:08] <owner> ksean if you want firefox 1.5 i recommend automatix
[12:08] <Morrowyn> that tool rocks when it comes to modeling
[12:08] <vir_> this will be funny :P
[12:08] <mwe> n00b: there's a step by step guide you should print
[12:08] <KSean> ok
[12:08] <Morrowyn> brb
[12:08] <gnomefreak> automatix is bad
[12:08] <KSean> what about 1.0.7 though? doesn't that mess up yelp :Z
[12:08] <n00b> mwe, do you think gentoo is more powerful than ubuntu? if so, how much more powerful?
[12:08] <owner> gnomefreak why?
[12:08] <cafuego> !ff1.5
[12:08] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:08] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[12:08] <ubotu> I heard automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[12:08] <mwe> n00b: gentoo is really slow though, because you always compiling stuff
[12:09] <cafuego> That instuctions on that wiki work fine, and are fully reversible.
[12:09] <owner> automatix is gpl now
[12:09] <dwerf> Morrowyn, I've heard of Modo and tried it. I use Wings 3D a lot too.
[12:09] <mwe> !automatix
[12:09] <KSean> cafuego, I did that, and I tried reversing it to install a plugin
[12:09] <oceandead> isnt there another automatix type script?
[12:09] <indypende> how to partitioning a apple pb g4 to install only one OS (ubuntu)?
[12:09] <KSean> Then tried to install it again
[12:09] <n00b> mwe, so whats the point of using gentoo then? which distro do you think would be the fastest?
[12:09] <oceandead> i forget the name...
[12:09] <gnomefreak> KSean: im sure there is a removal command for ff1.5 on that wiki
[12:09] <KSean> Then reversed again because it wouldn't work
[12:09] <KSean> Now 1.0.7 wont work either
[12:09] <cafuego> indypende: Just let the installer autopartition the whole disk (If you want to NOT use OSX)
[12:09] <KSean> and bash doesn't recognise "firefox"
[12:09] <mwe> n00b: well I like ubuntu.
[12:09] <dwerf> Morrowyn, Wings 3D runs very smooth on Ubuntu
[12:09] <cafuego> KSean: So the symlink is missing.
[12:09] <Virogenesis> n00b stick to a distro that works mate
[12:09] <oceandead> i *love* ubuntu
[12:10] <KSean> I think so :|
[12:10] <owner> that guide can break firefox
[12:10] <owner> the wiki 1.5 guide
[12:10] <oceandead> does everything i need it to on this machine
[12:10] <gnomefreak> owner: gpl has nothing to do with the security issues
[12:10] <n00b> Virogenesis, yes i also like stuff that works but i want to try other distro's that are better than ubuntu
[12:10] <Virogenesis> i love ubuntu but wish apache was on the latest version
[12:10] <cafuego> n00b: What will you use Linux for?
[12:10] <mwe> n00b: gentoo is all right. I just hate the fact the I spend so much time compiling everything from source all the time
[12:10] <owner> gnomefreak, but automatix doesnt set root pass anymore
[12:10] <indypende> cafuego, there is a way to delete every partition on the disk before installing?
[12:10] <robotgeek> owner: but it does use --force-all
[12:10] <n00b> cafuego, i have no idea yet... just everyday computer use, multimedia and hopefully one day ... GAMING
[12:10] <cafuego> indypende: There's no need, if you tell the installer to use the entire disk, it will do it for you.
[12:11] <plagiats> Hi, I'm trying to install P4-modclock but sudo apt-get install p4-clockmod does not find it. Where is it please ?
[12:11] <owner> the author claims that it no longer uses force flag as well
[12:11] <KSean> =\
[12:11] <robotgeek> owner: i would recommend you type "man apt-get"
[12:11] <oceandead> i have only compiled two things on ubuntu
[12:11] <n00b> mwe, ok. have you tried slackware?
[12:11] <cafuego> n00b: So basically apps that are waiting for user input 99% of the time :-)
[12:11] <KSean> help :s
[12:11] <oceandead> one because i had to, one because i just felt like it
[12:11] <mwe> n00b: but once it's done it runs really fast. but then the next day a new kde version is out and you have to wait 4 hours for it to compile
[12:11] <JoeBlow> n00b, gaming on linux?
[12:11] <KSean> firefox won't work still :|
[12:11] <JoeBlow> n00b, its kinda a real pain
[12:11] <mwe> n00b: yeah I love slack.
[12:11] <indypende> ok cafuego .... i will try
[12:11] <oceandead> mwe :)
[12:11] <cafuego> n00b: With that in mind, pick a precompiled distro, one that's easy to maintain and upgrade.
[12:11] <Nameeater> plagiats: I can't find it in my repo's
[12:12] <gnomefreak> cafuego: can ksean run devirt the other way than he did first time? to fix it?
[12:12] <robotgeek> owner: oh well, the forums are down, i will try checking back later to see if it has been fixed
[12:12] <cafuego> n00b: Ergo: Ubuntu :-)
[12:12] <Virogenesis> vector was meant to be good but never tried it
[12:12] <plagiats> Nameeater, argh
[12:12] <cafuego> gnomefreak: Yeah, sudo dpkg-divert --rename --remove /usr/bin/firefox
[12:12] <n00b> JoeBlow, yeah i know... i've just spent 2 days trying to install cedega only to find out it won't run most of my games :S
[12:12] <cafuego> gnomefreak: The wiki *also* explains how to do that.
[12:12] <n00b> mwe, whats that like? difficult? powerful?
[12:12] <gnomefreak> that should give him ff 1.0.7 back
[12:13] <owner> i had no luck with cedega either
[12:13] <n00b> cafuego, yes but is their anything better?
[12:13] <gnomefreak> cafuego: thats why i asked i thought i saw it but hell i havent loked at it in a while
[12:13] <owner> it couldnt even play bf 1942 which cedega claims is officially supported
[12:13] <KSean> ok, i'll try
[12:13] <owner> maybe ati drivers are to blame
[12:13] <cafuego> n00b: Is Ubuntu better? I think so. Stable, well-integrated.
[12:13] <mwe> cafuego: I just did sudo dpkg-divert --remove /usr/bin/firefox, seemed to work. anything wrong with that?
[12:13] <JoeBlow> n00b, theirs alot of native installers, but wine is ok
[12:13] <Virogenesis> ubuntu is top of distrowatch for page hits :D
[12:13] <JoeBlow> n00b, i got quake 2 working on wine, and doom 3 working with native install
[12:14] <KSean> :S
[12:14] <KSean> It says no diversion
[12:14] <KSean> I used synaptic and reinstalled firefox
[12:14] <KSean> It won't load
[12:14] <cafuego> Just a moment, I have a large HAIRY spider to kill.
[12:14] <KSean> It recognises "firefox" though
[12:14] <gnomefreak> mwe: it should just use 1.0.7 with the icons now (i think)
[12:14] <owner> ksean your firefox profile is corrupt
[12:14] <owner> the default profile
[12:14] <KSean> I see
[12:14] <n00b> JoeBlow, yeah i just can't be bothered getting the native installs when i already have the windows version
[12:14] <KSean> How do I fix it?
[12:15] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah. it was a while back. I'm using ff 1.5 now
[12:15] <n00b> cafuego, what about mandriva? i tried that and i liked it but then i installed ubuntu and stuck with that because i couldnt be bothered going through the whole process again
[12:15] <Revellion> n00b: well
[12:15] <JoeBlow> n00b, no, the niative installs you download, and it installs it off your windows version but using a linux installer, u just have to ahve the windows version and download the native install for free
[12:15] <gnomefreak> i didnt like 1.5 on breezy im keeping in dapper tho :)
[12:15] <Revellion> all distros has their pro's and con's :)
[12:15] <owner> rename or delete ~/.mozilla/
[12:15] <oceandead> delete the profile
[12:15] <owner> i think
[12:15] <n00b> JoeBlow, NO WAY
[12:15] <owner> thats the profile directory right?
[12:15] <n00b> JoeBlow, I NEVER KNEW THAT
[12:15] <cafuego> n00b: I've never tried Mandriva, but I hear it sucks.
[12:15] <JoeBlow> n00b, lol
[12:15] <JoeBlow> n00b, thats how i got doom 3 running
[12:16] <KSean> How do I rename it? The rename option is greyed out
[12:16] <robotgeek> cafuego: of course it sucks :)
[12:16] <gnomefreak> cafuego: it does :(
[12:16] <KSean> Because I'm not root
[12:16] <JoeBlow> n00b, I dunno if its sarcasm that your using tho
[12:16] <n00b> JoeBlow, so you are saying... that i can run any supported game without even bothering with cedega?
[12:16] <cafuego> n00b: Debian is fine, easy to admin.. but for the desktop, Ubuntu is far more polished.
[12:16] <KSean> What's the command to rename it in the terminal?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> it kept overwriting grub with updates and than i couldnt boot to either
[12:16] <n00b> cafuego, what about SUSE or FC?
[12:16] <owner> i agree mandriva sucks
[12:16] <owner> when i used it anyway
[12:16] <n00b> Revellion, do you k now of any kind of "review" site?
[12:16] <JoeBlow> n00b, well some of the games have these installs but u still have to use cedega or wine, but the ones I use dont need it
[12:16] <owner> it was called mandrake back then
[12:17] <Marlun> Is there a setting so that "Browse for other folders" is allways expanded in the save file dialog?
[12:17] <cafuego> n00b: I used to use SUSE, but it's was a PITA to keep up to date. Never sued FC, but have replaced many hacked RH boxes with Debian for paying clients.
[12:17] <n00b> JoeBlow, okay so where would i be able to find these installs?
[12:17] <KSean> How do I rename ~/.mozilla? :S
[12:17] <gnomefreak> suse and fc are ok but they are both kind of on heavy slower side of things
[12:17] <owner> try sudo in terminal ksean
[12:17] <KSean> ok
[12:17] <sagarp> how do i determine the name of a window
[12:17] <cafuego> Slack used to be fine, but I've not used a version newer than 3.0. (That box still runs slack 3 today).
[12:17] <JoeBlow> n00b, http://www.liflg.org/
[12:17] <n00b> TO EVERYONE: how long does it take you to start up ubuntu... windows seems to start up faster :S
[12:17] <KSean> sudo doesnt do anything, it says stuff like -z etc
[12:18] <cafuego> n00b: AT the end of the day, the only way to find out what's best for YOU is to try them all.
[12:18] <Nameeater> KSean: i have no idea why you would want to, but to rename it: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.whatever or replace mv with cp if you would like to just copy it
[12:18] <JoeBlow> n00b, it takes me about 45 seconds
[12:18] <gnomefreak> cafuego: slack is unlike any other distro lol
[12:18] <KSean> ok
[12:18] <robotgeek> n00b: that's cause windows loads everything after you loging :)
[12:18] <n00b> JoeBlow, thx mate thats saved me alot
[12:18] <JoeBlow> n00b, what games r u trying in perticular?
[12:18] <gnomefreak> same with gentoo :(
[12:18] <JoeBlow> n00b, if u cant find it their, try searching google nameofgame linux
[12:18] <owner> that wiki guide can cause you to mess up your firefox profile
[12:18] <JoeBlow> n00b, or something like that
[12:18] <n00b> JoeBlow, NWN, DOOM3, D2, AOE2
[12:18] <mwe> n00b: ubuntu is booting considerably faster here
[12:19] <robotgeek> owner: which part in particular?
[12:19] <n00b> JoeBlow, okay, thx for that though i can't be bothered dealing with cedega
[12:19] <JoeBlow> n00b, it hink those all have support
[12:19] <KSean> owner
[12:19] <KSean> It works now
[12:19] <KSean> Thanks :)
[12:19] <JoeBlow> n00b, i know doom 3 works
[12:19] <owner> i think the mv commands if followed slightly incorrectly
[12:19] <JoeBlow> n00b, i think all of those have it tho
[12:19] <sagarp> er, i mean, hwo do i determine the name of an application using wnck
[12:19] <n00b> mwe, okay so how fast is it? like 20 seconds? 30? how do i make it faster?
[12:19] <gnomefreak> robotgeek: i think its more on the firefox side than the ubuntu side for the breaking of the profile
[12:19] <n00b> JoeBlow, thx very much for the info
[12:19] <owner> a safer way is to export your profile in mozilla .07 and import into 1.5
[12:19] <robotgeek> owner: can't help if ppl type the wrong commands :(
[12:19] <owner> as an html file
[12:20] <Virogenesis> who actually cares about how long it takes to get onto desktop
[12:20] <Revellion> n00b: distrowatch ?
[12:20] <gnomefreak> people keep in mind there are reasons why ff1.5 is not in repos and is only used on unstable
[12:20] <Rawplayer> DO
[12:20] <JoeBlow> n00b, no problem, but doom 3 doesnt look as good as it does in windows for me, maybe its cause i ahve an ati card id unno
[12:20] <Virogenesis> honestly how many just leaves their systems on 24/7
[12:20] <Virogenesis> :P
[12:20] <mwe> n00b: it takes 20 -30 secs until I get to the gdm login. then 5-10 secs for kde to start
[12:20] <gnomefreak> lol robotgeek
[12:20] <gnomefreak> thats many kernel updates?
[12:20] <mwe> n00b: windows takes maybe 50 secs. then another minute or so before I can acutually use the desktop
[12:20] <Nameeater> I wouldn't reboot if this pc wasn't so damn noisey and hot
[12:20] <oceandead> Virogenesis, agreed - usually boot once a day - in the morning - hit the power button and go put on coffee anyway ;)
[12:20] <robotgeek> it's 2006 already :)
[12:21] <Virogenesis> shutdown...whats that :P
[12:21] <cafuego>  22:21:15 up 311 days,  1:59,  2 users,  load average: 0.12, 0.11, 0.08
[12:21] <Virogenesis> nice
[12:21] <mwe> n00b: make sure ubuntu boot is not waiting a long time a some point like when it can't connect to the time server
[12:22] <oceandead> 311 - nice :P
[12:22] <oceandead> 06:24:12 up 13:49
[12:22] <oceandead> but - i had to reboot after new kernel image
[12:22] <oceandead> :P
[12:22] <n00b> mwe, how do i check that? i know that i connect to the time server
[12:22] <cafuego> That's the production server though. My desktop ahs only been up for 4 days.
[12:22] <oceandead> well, didnt *have* to ;)
[12:22] <Virogenesis>  11:22:37 up 2 days,  4:55,  2 users,  load average: 0.29, 0.50, 0.58
[12:22] <Virogenesis>  <--- new install :(
[12:22] <n00b> JoeBlow, i have ATI aswell... maybe if you install the new drivers?
[12:23] <n00b> Revellion, thx
[12:23] <JoeBlow> n00b, i got the newest, it just doenst look as sharp
[12:23] <mwe> n00b: if it hangs a long time at that point something is not right
[12:23] <mwe> n00b: if it only takes 3 seconds before it moves on it's ok
[12:24] <n00b> JoeBlow, ok
[12:24] <cafuego> During those 3 seconds it tries to fetch the time from that box with a 311 day uptime ;-)
[12:24] <n00b> mwe, nah mine takes 3 seconds too
[12:24] <oceandead> hmm i wonder - when i use mencoder to re-encode a video it tells me 3dnow supported but disabled - how do i enable 3dnow (and might there be any problems if i did so?)
[12:25] <cafuego> oceandead: does cat /proc/cpuinfo | grep 3dnow  mention it at all?
[12:25] <oceandead> in /proc/cpuinfo flags it shouws
[12:25] <oceandead> cafuego, yeah
[12:25] <cafuego> 'k
[12:25] <Virogenesis> vlos looks pretty decent
[12:26] <owner> oceandead you should use a k7 kernel
[12:26] <owner> i believe
[12:27] <oceandead> ah i wasnt sure whether or not to try it i only saw athlons and up on that one -
[12:27] <oceandead> ill give it a go sometime
[12:27] <owner> well it depends
[12:27] <owner> there is a k6 and k7 kernel
[12:27] <oceandead> <! old laptop - k6-2
[12:27] <oceandead> there is a k6?
[12:27] <oceandead> i havent seen it - *must* check for that
[12:28] <owner> actually there is an mencoder-k6 version
[12:28] <owner> i just looked in synaptic
[12:28] <Virogenesis> see how much i get off of azureus now :)
[12:29] <EightiesK> hello
[12:29] <oceandead> ah dude! i totally missed it- what a stoner
[12:29] <oceandead> thanks owner
[12:29] <owner> np
[12:29] <EightiesK> could someone help me maybe?
[12:29] <Revellion> EightiesK: sure
[12:29] <Revellion> ask your question :)
[12:30] <idefix_> where is my .bash_profile file?
[12:30] <mwe> what's the difference between dvd-r and dvd+r ?
[12:30] <EightiesK> I installed ubuntu as my first distro. when i try to start it
[12:30] <Seveas> mwe, different standards
[12:31] <ves> idefix_: normally in ~/
[12:31] <EightiesK> I get IO fatal error 104
[12:31] <EightiesK> xserver won't start.
[12:31] <EightiesK> and i dunno how to get to my logs in windows.
[12:31] <mwe> Seveas: but there are equally good?
[12:33] <cafuego> !lart tetex
[12:33] <scorp007> mwe, http://www.sharpened.net/helpcenter/answer.php?129
[12:33] <oceandead> is toshset new in breezy or was it in hoary as well?
[12:33] <cafuego> !info toshset hoary
[12:34] <EightiesK> Revellion: can u help me?
[12:34] <ubotu> toshset: (Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.64-2 (hoary), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[12:34] <cafuego> !info toshset warty
[12:34] <Revellion> EightiesK: hmm
[12:34] <oceandead> k
[12:34] <ubotu> toshset: (Access much of the Toshiba laptop hardware interface), section universe/utils, is optional. Version: 1.64-2 (warty), Packaged size: 49 kB, Installed size: 176 kB
[12:34] <Revellion> EightiesK: do you got a command line at all or something equal?
[12:34] <cafuego> Seems to have been around (and at the same version) for a long time.
[12:34] <oceandead> !info rtl8180
[12:35] <EightiesK> Revellion: i get a comand line thats all.
[12:36] <Revellion> and you're able to login aswell?
[12:37] <theSamo> what are backports?
[12:37] <dwerf> trying to convince someone to swith to ubuntu from windows; how large is ubuntu on the disk?
[12:37] <Mez> !tell theSamo about backports
[12:37] <Revellion> dwerf: depend
[12:37] <Revellion> *depends
[12:37] <cafuego> dwerf: Full base install is just under 2GB.
[12:37] <dwerf> the CD install?
[12:37] <Revellion> dwerf: for a clean somewhat featured gnome desktop equipped ubuntu
[12:37] <stukas> hi, i got a problem. i can read CDs but i cant read DVDs. ubuntu says "No medium found". the drive and the DVDs (data, not movies) worked with every linux i had before.. what might be the problem ?
[12:37] <dwerf> thanx
[12:37] <cafuego> dwerf: That includes The office suite
[12:37] <Revellion> perhaps 700MB at tops
[12:37] <dwerf> yes?
[12:37] <Revellion> if you include documentation
[12:38] <EightiesK> Revellion, during set up it told me to run from /etc/cro.daily./solcate'
[12:38] <Revellion> and copy packages from the CD to the drive in the install
[12:38] <oceandead> all i need is rtl8180-sa2400 drivers included in next release and this machine is fairly set
[12:38] <Mez> stukas, it is a DVD drive right?
[12:38] <cafuego> oceandead: You can run just the kernel from that release on the current machine.
[12:38] <Revellion> hmm
[12:39] <stukas> Mez: yes, it is a DVD writer even.
[12:39] <oceandead>  i get em off sourceforge and compile em - i dont think theyre ready for primetime yet
[12:39] <JoeBlow> is their an easier way to get cedega then that on winehq, all the terminal commands they tell me to use dont work in ubuntu
[12:40] <cafuego> Well, crud.
[12:40] <EightiesK> i wanna get into linux eventually phase out windows.
[12:40] <JoeBlow> im trying to convert wine to cvs
[12:40] <oceandead> hehehe
[12:40] <EightiesK> but it seems to not wanna work.
[12:40] <zAo^> forums down again??
[12:40] <cafuego> zAo^: /topic
[12:40] <EightiesK> I have a Nvidia mx series and a dell monitor.
[12:41] <EightiesK> the graphical interfasce don't wannaa work right.
[12:41] <oceandead> <! is sometimes happy has outdated hardware ;)
[12:41] <Nameeater> is ubuntuforums.org down or just being a bastard for me?
[12:41] <oceandead> not often, but sometimes
[12:42] <tonyyarusso> Nameeater: /topic
[12:42] <Nameeater> oh sorry
[12:42] <gnomefreak> the forums are down its in the /topic
[12:42] <Nameeater> good ol' google cache will have to do :)
[12:42] <monzie> how do i remaster the ubuntu cd/
[12:42] <idefix_> ves, my system is probably not standard, whereelse could it be? (the bash_profile file)
[12:42] <monzie> can someone please help me in remastering / customizing the ubuntu cd/
[12:43] <tonyyarusso> !tell monzie about livecd
[12:43] <ves> idefix_: Have you tried a simple 'locate .bash_profile'? It might not neccessarily have been created.
[12:44] <monzie> i want to customize the install cd tonyyarusso
[12:44] <tonyyarusso> monzie: So you would follow the link to LiveCDCustomizationHowTo provided in your message from ubotu.
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> monzie: Never mind.
[12:45] <tonyyarusso> monzie: I misread that, twice.
[12:45] <Lanfeust21> hi i want to do a remote shutdown, is it possible ?
[12:45] <cafuego> Lanfeust21: Yes, ssh in, sudo 'sudo halt'
[12:45] <idefix_> I read somewhere that it is bad style to log in as superuser, is this true?
[12:45] <odat> hi everyone
[12:45] <ompaul> Lanfeust21, ssh into the machine and sudo shutdown -h now
[12:46] <tonyyarusso> idefix_: Yes.  Use sudo for just about everything.
[12:46] <monzie> it is idefix_
[12:47] <tonyyarusso> monzie: Would the instructions for remastering the Live CD apply to the install one as well do you think?
[12:47] <owner> probably not tony
[12:48] <tonyyarusso> owner: Nuts.  There goes the easy answer.
[12:49] <odat> ubuntu is cool  running it here on an old dual pentium 2
[12:50] <F43RY> Is someone able to use escputil? It doesn't work fine
[12:50] <rixth> I think my CPU is dieing. VCore voltage is flucuating between 1.66 and 1.7V
[12:50] <JoeBlow> can someone help me out with cedega, i almost got it, it just gives me an error right at the end
[12:51] <owner> rixth, is that a laptop
[12:51] <rixth> owner, no, desktop
[12:51] <rixth> So 9t is not power scaling
[12:51] <JoeBlow> when i try to load a profile in cedega it tells me su: Authentication failure
[12:51] <JoeBlow> Sorry.
[12:51] <Mapionetka> how well would ubuntu go on a tablet pc?
[12:52] <F43RY> I've an Epson RX425 all-in-one
[12:52] <owner> it should work
[12:52] <odat> Mapionetka, does ubuntu support tablet pc's
[12:52] <odat> ?
[12:52] <Mapionetka> no idea
[12:52] <Mapionetka> im askin you :P
[12:52] <Mapionetka> its just that or win98 :/
[12:52] <oceandead> welcome to my world
[12:52] <F43RY> I'd like to use clean utilities but i don't
[12:53] <owner> it should work
[12:53] <owner> what are the specs
[12:53] <Lanfeust21> does anyone know ruby, i want to do exec("sudo halt")  but how can i pass the password (to be able to shutdown through a webpage)
[12:54] <Mapionetka> owner: http://cgi.ebay.com.au/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6829530028&rd=1&sspagename=STRK%3AMESO%3AIT&rd=1
[12:54] <idefix_> what language is the .bash_profile file written in?
[12:55] <oceandead> i hear birds - time to get some sleep
[12:55] <owner> it should work mapionetka
[12:55] <owner> you might want to install xubuntu-desktop
[12:55] <owner> it will be faster than gnome
[12:55] <Mapionetka> so it will play nice with the stylus?
[12:56] <Mapionetka> and if xubuntu is stable enough that sounds good :)
[12:56] <brenner> idefix_: it's a bash script
[12:56] <owner> well try it, ive read of people who have installed ubuntu on tablet pcs
[12:56] <odat> owner, for the features that you loose with xfce and or xubuntu i can't justify the small performance difference
[12:56] <tonyyarusso> Lanfeust21: What do you mean through a webpage?
[12:57] <owner> which features odat
[12:57] <odat> owner, the features found in nautilus more than anything
[12:57] <F43RY> Has Someone of You installed the gutenprint on ubuntu?
[12:57] <owner> you can load nautilus with nautilus --nodesktop
[12:57] <owner> in xfce
[12:57] <Lanfeust21> tonyyarusso: i need to manage ( interactive kiosk in a closed intranet) and to shutdown computer before they cut the power
[12:58] <F43RY> How does it work?
[12:58] <Lanfeust21> and i use webapplications (rails )
[12:59] <tonyyarusso> Lanfeust21: Can you log in to the kiosk machine from elsewhere?  (Never heard of doing it that way.)
[12:59] <|Bou|> is there anyone who uses epiphany?
[12:59] <odat> owner,  i know you can load nautilus but if your gonna do that you might as well have gnome
[01:00] <owner> depends on how much ram you have
[01:00] <owner> nautilus is just a file manager
[01:00] <Lanfeust21> tonyyarusso yes i have a console management but the user that will use it know nothing about ssh
[01:01] <raf256> PipicZ: tu jestem :P
[01:02] <PipicZ> cze :)
[01:02] <raf256> we must speak english here PipicZ
[01:02] <tonyyarusso> Lanfeust21: Ah.  (Answer a: They could learn.)  Answer b: I know nothing about kiosk lockdown mode, so that's all I've got for you.
[01:02] <ompaul> Lanfeust21, putty may be your friend
[01:03] <ompaul> and then the command line
[01:05] <coolboy> hi
[01:05] <tonyyarusso> Hi coolboy.
[01:05] <Lanfeust21> ompaul yes i know but i was thinking on a sort of shell script that connect through ssh/telnet to each kiosk and to send the right command once connected
[01:05] <raf256> how to add the root account?
[01:05] <coolboy> is king-crimson here?
[01:05] <topyli> raf256: just don't. why would you?
[01:06] <raf256> topyli: I have 2 yrs linux knowlage, dont argue =) I just forgot how
[01:06] <heng> raf256: sudo passwd?
[01:06] <topyli> no.
[01:06] <raf256> heng: ah indeed, thanx
[01:06] <Virogenesis> lol
[01:06] <raf256> no? I dont have ubuntu here to try
[01:06] <topyli> raf256: sudo passwd root. go ahead break what you want
[01:07] <raf256> thnaks
[01:07] <topyli> raf256: luckily, i'm drinkin beer, not coffee :)
[01:07] <raf256> topyli: \o/
[01:08] <topyli> raf256: and to break my beer bottle, you really do need to be root!
[01:09] <coolboy> how do i get in advanced mode for installing amsn from "add applications"
[01:09] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: Advanced mode?
[01:10] <coolboy> tonyyarusso: it says so, else i can"t install
[01:10] <topyli> coolboy: it means "use synaptic, i'm too dumb for this"
[01:10] <coolboy> o k
[01:10] <coolboy> thx
[01:11] <coolboy> lol
[01:11] <tonyyarusso> topyli: Ah.  Thanks.
[01:11] <DjDarkman>  hy , i get an error that says that the root partition / is mounted read only ,what do i do?
[01:11] <Mapionetka> can ubuntu do a network install? as in i run a file on the tablet and it installs over the network rather than having to mess with pcmcia and external cd drives?
[01:11] <coolboy> it gives this error using synaptic: amsn:
[01:11] <coolboy>  Vereisten: imlib1  but it is not installable
[01:11] <coolboy>  Vereisten: sox maar het wordt niet genstalleerd
[01:11] <coolboy>  Vereisten: libpng10-0  but it is not installable
[01:13] <tonyyarusso> Is elinks probably the best text-only web browser, or is there something else I should try?
[01:13] <metal> i need some help with mounting my drives
[01:14] <DjDarkman>  i get an error that says that the root partition / is mounted read only ,what do i do?
[01:14] <ompaul> DjDarkman, can you give more context is this at boot or what?
[01:14] <topyli> coolboy: all those are available. either the amsn package or your system is b0rken
[01:15] <coolboy>  lol i just installed system
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> !tell metal about mount
[01:15] <DjDarkman> yes ompaul i get this at boot
[01:15] <DjDarkman> and i dunno what to do
[01:15] <topyli> coolboy: press the "reload" button. perhaps synaptic hasn't seen the light yet
[01:15] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: May need to add some repos.
[01:15] <ompaul> DjDarkman, have you got a live CD to hand?
[01:15] <DjDarkman> yes Octane
[01:15] <topyli> tonyyarusso: those packages are in main :)
[01:16] <DjDarkman> *ompaul
[01:16] <ejofee> what makes "captive ntfs" a solution which nobody seriously takes into account?
[01:16] <coolboy> ow k, but i'll just download from the amsn site
[01:16] <ompaul> okay reboot with it and say when you have got it up and running
[01:16] <JoeBlow> ejofee, what is captive ntfs
[01:16] <topyli> coolboy: that'll bee a much much harder install
[01:16] <DjDarkman> ok ,ompaul just a few mins
[01:16] <coolboy> ow k
[01:17] <ompaul> JoeBlow, using a Microsoft driver at kernel level to talk to ntfs - i.e. tainting your kernel in ways you don't really want to think about
[01:17] <JoeBlow> ompaul, uhh ok
[01:17] <JoeBlow> ompaul, lol
[01:17] <bungle> hi
[01:18] <ejofee> JoeBlow: a technology which allows for ntfs read/write access from gnu-linux.
[01:18] <JoeBlow> ompaul, using ntfs instead of ext3
[01:18] <topyli> coolboy: paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to the pastebin, let's see what's wrong
[01:18] <young>  irc.hanirc.org
[01:18] <JoeBlow> ejofee, i would love to be able to write to ntfs
[01:18] <ompaul> no it is for reading and writing to NTFS from GNU/Linux
[01:18] <Terminus> !captive
[01:18] <ubotu> captive is, like, totally, a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[01:18] <owner> joeblow use captive ntfs then
[01:18] <JoeBlow> owner, how do i use it?
[01:18] <tonyyarusso> Hi bungle.
[01:18] <owner> ive never actually used it
[01:18] <ompaul> JoeBlow, read what the bot said
[01:18] <owner> but it uses windows dll files so its the safest way
[01:19] <odat> anyone have the irc menu script    the site is down and i can't get it
[01:19] <bungle> hi tonyyarusso
[01:19] <Terminus> JoeBlow: ubotu says it doesn't work properly with ubuntu.
[01:19] <JoeBlow> Terminus, ohh ok lol
[01:19] <JoeBlow> Terminus, dont really matter i use all linux partitions now anyway
[01:19] <coolboy> it just won't install
[01:19] <coolboy> i reloaded a dosen of times
[01:19] <coolboy> it keeps giving same error
[01:19] <JoeBlow> coolboy, maybe try reinstalling
[01:19] <owner> coolboy what error?
[01:20] <ejofee> JoeBlow: then use captive ntfs (http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/)
[01:20] <lesshaste> how can I rip the subtitles from a dvd?
[01:20] <Terminus> JoeBlow: i don't dual boot myself so i just use samba so that windows can work with my stuff. :)
[01:20] <coolboy> amsn:
[01:20] <coolboy>  Vereisten: imlib1  but it is not installable
[01:20] <coolboy>  Vereisten: sox maar het wordt niet genstalleerd
[01:20] <coolboy>  Vereisten: libpng10-0  but it is not installable
[01:20] <JoeBlow> damn CVS cedega takes a long time to set itself up
[01:21] <odat> anyone have the irc menu script    the site is down and i can't get it
[01:21] <coolboy> it's dutch version
[01:21] <coolboy> This package supersedes ccmsn, which is no longer maintained upstream. (this is what it says at the description)
[01:22] <topyli> coolboy: did you press the refresh button first?
[01:22] <coolboy> no
[01:22] <topyli> coolboy: well please do
[01:23] <coolboy> now i did it doesn't work
[01:23] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: Have you pastebinned your sources yet?
[01:23] <coolboy> what's that?
[01:24] <tonyyarusso> !tell coolboy about pastebin
[01:24] <coolboy> what do i need to do with that pastebin
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> Know what would be useful?  If the first time XChat was run after installation / running of Live CD, in addition to connecting to this channel by default, it automatically called !newuser.
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: Paste your /etc/apt/source.list
[01:25] <coolboy> and where do i open that?
[01:25] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, assuming the factoid exists
[01:25] <n00b> !newuser
[01:25] <ubotu> n00b: What?
[01:25] <n00b> !newuser
[01:25] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: I made it a few hours ago.
[01:26] <n00b> what does that do?
[01:26] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, someone killed it
[01:26] <ompaul> !+newuser
[01:26] <ubotu> Wish i knew, ompaul
[01:26] <bungle> !newuser
[01:26] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, bungle
[01:26] <topyli> coolboy: hrm. open the file manager, navigate to /etc/apt, click sources.list. select all, copy, paste to pastebin, give us the link to your paste
[01:26] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, uparrow and pop it in again
[01:26] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: Applications > Accessories > Terminal, type 'gedit /etc/apt/sources.list'.
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Sad...
[01:27] <jean> sava
[01:27] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Maybe I should find out why it was killed first?
[01:28] <choco_> 
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> cafuego: ping , you awake?
[01:28] <jean> salu mon prut
[01:28] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, he is gone an hour or so
[01:28] <jean> salu
[01:28] <ompaul> !fr
[01:28] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[01:28] <jean> sava les mec??
[01:28] <irvin> !ph
[01:28] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Shoot.  Wish I knew why before just adding it back.  Presumably someone had a reason...
[01:28] <ubotu> Join #ubuntu-ph for tagalog
[01:29] <coolboy> i posted it there at pastebin
[01:29] <coolboy> what now?
[01:29] <owner> !ubuntu
[01:29] <ubotu> ubuntu is, like, totally, an easy-to-use GNU/Linux desktop distro based on Debian.  http://ubuntu.com http://ubuntuforums.org http://wiki.ubuntu.com. It's Bantu for 'Humanity to others'. see !awards.
[01:29] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, msg it to me and i'll see if it was obvious
[01:29] <jean> oui
[01:29] <coolboy> it's called coolboy
[01:29] <malte`> !it
[01:29] <owner> !!
[01:29] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[01:29] <ubotu> ??
[01:29] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: Give us the URL of the paste.
[01:29] <malte`> ;)
[01:29] <Nivko> Hi, can i make a backup of Ubuntu and if it crashes i can set it back?
[01:30] <coolboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7471
[01:30] <ompaul> please don't play with the bot
[01:30] <Nivko> Hi, can i make a backup of Ubuntu and if it crashes i can set it back?
[01:30] <ompaul> Nivko, slow down there are 628 here and it will take a min to write a reply to that - short answer yes
[01:30] <tonyyarusso> ompaul: Okay, but let me start up something graphical, because I haven't figured out copy-pasting between ttys yet.
[01:31] <ompaul> Nivko, however it is more normal just to back up home directories
[01:31] <Terminus> tonyyarusso: highlight copies, middle click or left+right button pastes.
[01:31] <metal> could you write the code to mount sda1 and sda5?
[01:31] <Terminus> tonyyarusso: that's assuming gpm is running. :)
[01:32] <zandaa> hello all, I have a simple question
[01:32] <idefix_> any stuff written in gnucc can be run on a normal PC with windows?
[01:32] <Nivko> ompaul: I want to backup my whole system
[01:32] <ompaul> mental mount /dev/sda1 /some/directory
[01:32] <coolboy> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7471 this is the url
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> Terminus: Which it isn't.
[01:32] <DjDarkman> ompaul, i`m back
[01:32] <metal> thx
[01:32] <ompaul> Nivko, so do it, tape hard drive CD DVD your call
[01:32] <idefix_> sorry dass ich so daemlich bin
[01:33] <ompaul> !de
[01:33] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:33] <Nivko> ompaul: What?
[01:33] <owner> !ru
[01:33] <ubotu> Pozhalujsta vojdite v #ubuntu-ru dlq pomoshchi na russkom qzyke. # russian users please try #ubuntu-ru, there you may get more help
[01:33] <owner> lol
[01:33] <ompaul> Nivko, you can, what media do you want to use?
[01:33] <jean> tu pu
[01:33] <owner> !cn
[01:33] <ubotu> Wish i knew, owner
[01:33] <tonyyarusso> coolboy: One minute on checking out that paste.
[01:33] <Nivko> Uhm can i make a image or something?
[01:33] <coolboy> k
[01:33] <owner> !jp
[01:33] <ubotu> owner: I haven't a clue
[01:34] <DjDarkman> ompaul, can u please tell me what to do now
[01:34] <ompaul> Nivko, I have said yes several times - sorry if we don't speak the same language
[01:34] <anders> do I have to cfg something in ubuntu to make azureus work? I use port 6881 but can't connect to peers
[01:34] <Nivko> ompaul where are u from?:p
[01:34] <ompaul> DjDarkman, pop up a terminal
[01:34] <owner> anders install firestarter
[01:34] <metal> it says that i havent got the rights to see the content of sda1
[01:34] <metal> ?
[01:34] <owner> and unblock the ports in firestarter
[01:34] <DjDarkman> ompaul, done
[01:34] <coolboy> !newuser
[01:34] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, coolboy
[01:35] <ompaul> metal put a sudo in there - and make sure the directory on the right is in place first
[01:35] <Nivko> !newuser?
[01:35] <Nivko> !newuser
[01:35] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Nivko
[01:35] <Nivko> !newuser
[01:35] <Nivko> was that?:p
[01:35] <owner> !newuser
[01:35] <ubotu> owner: Bugger all, i dunno
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> Nivko, It was there, I'm trying to figure out what happened now.
[01:35] <metal> could i write sudo mount -a?
[01:35] <topyli> coolboy: all your repositories are disabled
[01:35] <owner> ubotu tell Nivko about ubuntu
[01:36] <anders> owner: I have installed and unblocked (I think). Made a rule to allow all incoming connections on 6881-6889
[01:36] <Nivko> ownern
[01:36] <Nivko> owner
[01:36] <ompaul> DjDarkman, the other dj nick is causing me huge issues trying to tab complete your nick - anyway do you know which /dev/ is your root partition
[01:36] <Nivko> im not dumb
[01:36] <coolboy> ow and how do I enable them?
[01:36] <owner> anders check out your router config
[01:36] <owner> its accessed with a local webpage
[01:36] <owner> usually
[01:36] <brenner> metal: pastebin it
[01:36] <anders> owner: the router is ok
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> !tell coolboy about sources
[01:36] <DjDarkman> ompaul, 1 min and i`ll tell you
[01:36] <owner> should work then anders
[01:36] <ompaul> DjDarkman, do this >> fsck -y /dev/hd*<<
[01:37] <ompaul> DjDarkman, where the * is a letter and number
[01:37] <topyli> coolboy: in synaptic, go to setting -> repositories. enable main, universe, and multiverse and you have everything
[01:37] <DjDarkman> i know ompaul
[01:37] <metal> Brenner, pastebin?
[01:37] <anders> owner: it works in windows. firestarter still lists blocked connections from various ports... 8008 and 50001
[01:37] <DjDarkman> i`ll mount it and chek it in the fstba
[01:37] <brenner> !pastebin
[01:37] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:37] <DjDarkman> *fstab
[01:37] <ompaul> DjDarkman, then umount it before you run that :)
[01:38] <ompaul> DjDarkman, actually if that is the case why not print the contents of fstab
[01:38] <JoeBlow> does it take anyone else like 2 hours to isntall cedega CVS
[01:38] <metal> what should i pastebin then?
[01:38] <owner> ubotu tell metal about pastebin
[01:39] <DjDarkman> never mind ,i found another way to chek wich partition is my /
[01:39] <ompaul> DjDarkman, as you have the chance I would fsck any linux partition now
[01:39] <brenner> metal: i thought you wanted to show us your mount output
[01:39] <metal> ah
[01:40] <raf256> hmm to upgrade the system I just run Synaptics?
[01:40] <owner> yes
[01:40] <owner> or you can do sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:40] <owner> in terminal
[01:40] <DjDarkman> i have only 3
[01:40] <coolboy> it didn't give the error now, so now it's marked
[01:40] <DjDarkman> 1 for the boot 1 for the / and 1 for the home
[01:40] <topyli> coolboy: good
[01:40] <coolboy> what now?
[01:41] <DjDarkman> ok ompaul the chek is done and all errors are fixed
[01:41] <topyli> press the refresh button, then search for amsn and install
[01:41] <ompaul> DjDarkman, reboot and enjoy
[01:41] <metal> /dev/sda1 on /media/sda1 type ntfs (rw)
[01:41] <DjDarkman> 10x ompaul
[01:41] <coolboy> k
[01:41] <cyphase_> cyphase, do you mind leaving?
[01:41] <ompaul> DjDarkman, errors like that are usually power off
[01:41] <metal> but i cant get acess to to files
[01:41] <metal> c*
[01:42] <ompaul> cyphase_, do you own the cyphase nick?
[01:42] <babo> hi
[01:42] <cyphase_> ompaul, yes :)
[01:42] <DjDarkman> i think i got this ,cause i tried to set the mount point for my cd and dvd drive
[01:42] <owner> cyphase both you and cyphase_ have same ip
[01:42] <owner> i think its you
[01:42] <cyphase_> owner, i know
[01:42] <owner> lol
[01:42] <coolboy> it doesn't do anythin
[01:43] <coolboy> it doesn't install
[01:43] <cyphase_> come on cyphase..
[01:43] <ompaul> cyphase_, do this >>/msg nickserv help<< it will  tell you how to use release recover then /nick and nickserv identify
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> cyphase_, /msg nickserv ghost cyphase yourpassword, then change nick.
[01:43] <babo> I'm trying to connect my server on my lan to the world. It's behind a netgear router and I have it listening on *:http
[01:43] <cyphase_> thanx cyphase
[01:43] <cyphase> your welcome
[01:43] <cyphase> :P
[01:43] <topyli> coolboy: did your find amsn with the search? right click it, choose "install", press the "apply" button
[01:43] <brenner> metal: you probably need to edit /etc/fstab to get the options right
[01:43] <dieterf_> hi, when i try to install kubuntu, there comes an error when choosing partition: ext2 filesystem has a rather strange layout
[01:44] <coolboy> it doesn't give the install option it's just marked for install
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> coolboy, click Apply.
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> dieterf_, Can you give more detail?
[01:44] <babo> I try to set up port forwarding on my netgear router but it tells me it won't work because of 'overlapping port ranges'. I don't have any other ports forwarded from that computer
[01:45] <coolboy> ow sr now i see
[01:45] <babo> how can my ports be overlapping if I don't have any ports forwarded on that computer ?
[01:45] <metal> i forgot how to take a screenshot
[01:46] <dieterf_> tonyyaru1so i'm choosing my partition on install, and when the setup want to copy the files, this error comes
[01:46] <dieterf_> i have installed another linux distro on that harddisk, but i really dont know why this error comes
[01:46] <coolboy> thx
[01:46] <rossclarkartist> join #ubuntu-doc
[01:47] <dieterf_> when you search this error msg in google, there comes a few threads, but noone knows how to solve this problem
[01:47] <dieterf_> im using kubuntu 64 5.10 :<
[01:47] <babo> hello ... anyone know why I have a port-forwarding overlap on my router ?
[01:47] <coolboy> how do i write the at sign
[01:47] <dieterf_> shift + 2
[01:47] <coolboy> k thx
[01:47] <babo> coolboy: @
[01:48] <metal> brenner, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i7472
[01:48] <dieterf_> tonyyarusso any idea?
[01:49] <pesz> hi all
[01:49] <quaker> hi ppl
[01:49] <Manny> hi :)
[01:49] <tonyyarusso> dieterf_, Are you trying to format and overwrite, or save the files from before?  I wonder if something's conflicting.
[01:49] <Manny> any ideas why /proc/asound does not exist?
[01:49] <n00b> hey guys, how come my video playback quality isn't as good as the quality i get in windows?
[01:49] <dieterf_> i tried both
[01:50] <ompaul> tonyyarusso,  my reply is there for you:)_
[01:50] <dieterf_> i let the setup format it, and i formated it myself, both times this error comes :<
[01:50] <Manny> n00b we'd working hard, but many codecs are closed-source and the media framework is not yet totally reliable
[01:50] <brenner> metal: next time, just copy and paste the actual text :)
[01:50] <quaker> someone know a channel how can help me with Quake4
[01:50] <Manny> n00b however, beginning with dapper (ubuntu 6.04) most of your problems should be gone
[01:51] <JDigital_> I have gam_server eating about 500MB (50%) of my memory and 200MB (20%) of my swap, while gnome-panel is taking 179MB swap. Is that usual?
[01:51] <ompaul> n00b, but dapper is not ready for a n00b to run yet - April 20
[01:51] <owner> n00b select xv as video output
[01:51] <ejofee> in which package should chkconfig be?
[01:51] <owner> that is the best
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> dieterf_, Not sure then.
[01:51] <n00b> owner, how do i select xv?
[01:51] <n00b> owner, im using VLC
[01:52] <dieterf_> tonyyarusso yea everybody not sure, nobody knows how to solve
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> n00b, I believe it's System > Preferences > Multimedia Systems Selector
[01:52] <owner> its in the preferences n00b
[01:52] <owner> somewhere
[01:52] <owner> check the advanced tab
[01:53] <metal> brenner, i'll remember that :)
[01:53] <brenner> metal: [1]  remove the duplicate /dev/sda1 entry [2]  change the options for that ntfs entry to: ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000
[01:53] <n00b> thanks
[01:53] <brenner> metal: i'm getting this info from: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions by the way
[01:53] <n00b> owner, when i try to test the xv thing, i get an error... do i need to worry about that?\
[01:54] <metal> ok
[01:54] <owner> does it play n00b?
[01:54] <metal> brenner, should i remover the row on the bottom=
[01:54] <metal> ?
[01:54] <dieterf_> tonyyarusso http://www.archivum.info/ubuntu-users@lists.ubuntu.com/2004-12/msg03068.html same problem
[01:54] <n00b> i don't know let me see
[01:54] <owner> do you have an ati card n00b
[01:54] <metal> remove*
[01:55] <brenner> metal: doesn't really matter. as long as you remove one of them
[01:55] <metal> ok
[01:55] <JoeBlow> ok i installed cvs cedega, how do i run it?
[01:56] <n00b> owner, yes i do
[01:56] <n00b> owner, it does play using that setting but not as good as Windows media player
[01:56] <metal> brenner, should i change defaults to ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000?
[01:56] <tonyyarusso> dieterf_, Looks like that person hadn't decided whether to use ext2 or ext3.
[01:56] <owner> n00b have you installed the ati drivers?
[01:56] <owner> type fglrxinfo in terminal
[01:56] <brenner> metal: yes
[01:57] <n00b> owner, yes i have the latest ones
[01:57] <n00b> hang
[01:57] <brenner> metal: then i think you need to unmount and then remount that partition
[01:57] <n00b> owner hang on
[01:57] <metal> code plz :P
[01:57] <n00b> owner i installed the latest drivers 8.20 but now it says that i have mesa 3d?
[01:57] <n00b> owner, .... wtf? lol
[01:57] <stuart_> hello
[01:57] <owner> that means you arent using ati driver 3d acceleration
[01:57] <JDigital_> I mean, Opera has a ton of pages open and it's only using 6.6% memory and 92MB swap
[01:57] <owner> type sudo fglrxconfig
[01:57] <n00b> owner, how do i use ati driver 3d acceleration?
[01:57] <owner> in terminal n00b
[01:58] <n00b> owner, it says command not found...
[01:58] <brenner> metal: umount /dev/sda1 i think
[01:58] <owner> n00b there is another way
[01:58] <n00b> owner, i can do aticonfig
[01:58] <stuart_> i managed to update my ati drivers now there great
[01:58] <owner> no aticonfig is a bad way
[01:58] <owner> it leaves vesa drivers in xorg.conf
[01:59] <owner> i dunno why the howto recommends it
[01:59] <n00b> owner, what would the other way be then?
[01:59] <stuart_> ubuntu will search for newist ones an update themselfs if you give correct commands
[01:59] <owner> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:59] <owner> then select fglrx
[01:59] <metal> brenner, and the sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/windows ?
[01:59] <owner> but after that you need to add 2 lines to xorg.conf to enable xv playback
[01:59] <stuart_> yea i did that fglrx thingy it works a treet
[02:00] <brenner> metal: yes, if you left the bottom entry
[02:00] <n00b> owner, would you be able to tell me those lines?
[02:00] <brenner> that would be right
[02:00] <owner> yes
[02:00] <metal> brenner, nope :P
[02:00] <eps> just writing a guide for a program and I need to know if ubuntu has the same name for a package that debian does...can some one please tell me the result of aptitude search libxerces27     ?
[02:00] <stuart_> i searched on net an all commands were there an i just copyed an pasted them
[02:00] <idefix_> what does ubotu know?
[02:01] <tonyyarusso> !tell idefix_ about factoid
[02:01] <brenner> metal: mount -a
[02:01] <stuart_> im strugling to get ubuntu to see my ntfs drives so i can access the files on them
[02:01] <metal> ok
[02:01] <owner> !pastebin
[02:01] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:01] <eps> any one?
[02:01] <n00b> !pastebin
[02:01] <frogzoo> !tell stuart_ about ntfs
[02:02] <n00b> owner, ?
[02:02] <owner> n00b this is my xorg.conf
[02:02] <frogzoo> anybody using  a raw device for dvd, or tips to set it up?
[02:02] <owner> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7473
[02:03] <brenner> eps: nothing came up for me
[02:03] <eps> some one please run this: aptitude search libxerces27
[02:03] <eps> nothing?
[02:03] <owner> you have to have the VideoOverlay and OpenGLOverlay lines like my xorg.conf
[02:03] <owner> in that device section
[02:03] <brenner> eps: packages.ubuntu.com
[02:03] <eps> thanks brenner !
[02:03] <brenner> eps: np
[02:03] <n00b> owner, do run ubuntu on amd64?
[02:03] <turbofisk> since I installed Windows stuff has been fucked up in windows... I can't access my ntfs partition and I can't boot windows
[02:04] <owner> you could probably use my xorg.conf but no guarantee that the monitor refresh rate and resolution is correct..
[02:04] <eps> no site :|
[02:04] <idefix_> !factoid
[02:04] <ubotu> A list of all my factoids can be found at http://ubuntu.cc.com.au
[02:04] <eps> silly ffox :P
[02:04] <owner> n00b, no i use ubuntu 32 bit
[02:04] <idefix_> ubotu only works in the channel!
[02:04] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, idefix_
[02:04] <frogzoo> eps I get libexerces26c2
[02:04] <n00b> owner, okay... do i need to restart the system now?
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> What's an escape for going to a new line?  For use with echo, for instance.
[02:04] <owner> yes
[02:04] <eps> frogzoo gah...might only be in drapper drake :|
[02:04] <metal> brenner, it works! :D
[02:04] <metal> thanks
[02:05] <n00b> okay
[02:05] <n00b> rebooting...
[02:05] <brenner> metal: awesome
[02:05] <frogzoo> eps or maybe just go with libxerces2-java
[02:05] <metal> but is it possible to write to a ntfs partition?
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, You can /msg it from anywhere.
[02:05] <eps> frogzoo it needs to be 2.7 for C++
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> metal, No.  Bad idea.
[02:06] <eps> bother...that's going to make it hard because I assume ubuntu will hate me if I start using drapper packages with it :|
[02:06] <owner> metal you can use captive ntfs
[02:06] <owner> ubotu tell metal about captive
[02:06] <frogzoo> eps if it's just the one lib, install it yourself, but...
[02:06] <metal> i have a movie/mp3 disk that i want to be able to use in both win/ubuntu
[02:07] <eps> mmm but I'll be telling about 50 sys admins to also install it :|
[02:07] <frogzoo> metal, ntfs write is experimental only
[02:07] <eps> which is a bad move :P
[02:07] <LNova> are the Ubuntu web forums down?
[02:07] <metal> i think i'll pass then :)
[02:07] <frogzoo> metal, fat32 is a pain because of the size limitation - maybe go with the ext3 drivers for doze?
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> LNova, See /topic
[02:08] <n00b> okay im back
[02:08] <frogzoo> noone using raw devices for DVD?
[02:08] <LNova> lol sorry
[02:08] <n00b> flgrxinfo now gives me the ATI information
[02:08] <owner> yes
[02:08] <owner> good
[02:08] <metal> frogzoo, but thats impossible for windows to read/write?
[02:09] <JDigital_> There are drivers that let Windows read/write ext2
[02:09] <owner> playback should be less laggy now
[02:09] <frogzoo> metal, I think the windows ext3 drivers are r/w - never done it though
[02:09] <JDigital_> possibly also ext3
[02:09] <n00b> niiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice
[02:09] <n00b> thank you owner
[02:09] <JDigital_> At least it's not as bad as getting NTFS write support on Linux, heh
[02:10] <owner> np
[02:10] <n00b> okay, now i need to enable sound in VLC :P
[02:10] <LNova> I have a question. I am running Breezy Badger (5.10) and I am trying to set up my wifi connection. However, synaptic doesn't seem to be working for me, I choose it from the "Administation" menu, but it just doesn't load, or even show any signs of trying to load. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[02:11] <owner> lnova, type sudo synaptic in terminal
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> LNova, Are you using the user from the default install?  It could be a sudo issue.
[02:11] <LNova> thanks. I have to log off my windows partition now, but i'll be back. thank you.
[02:12] <quaker> hi ppl
[02:12] <tonyyarusso> metal, http://fs-driver.org/ for the Windows driver for ext2/3
[02:12] <quaker> <-need help with quake4 ( the game is running, but i cant make screenshots or demos why?)
[02:13] <whatwhat> is ububtu taking software from synaptic?
[02:13] <towolf> salve, what file system would you recommend for an external hdd?
[02:14] <brenner> whatwhat: what? :)
[02:14] <n00b> im running videos from VLC but sound doesn't come out?
[02:15] <whatwhat> brenner well :x i just try to find  one aplications that allmost think ther ware there ... well the phpbb is not there anymore
[02:15] <xface> hello
[02:16] <whatwhat> lol :p thta good there are one new version :p of them
[02:16] <brenner> !info phpbb2
[02:16] <ubotu> phpbb2: (A fully featured and skinneable flat (non-threaded) webforum), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 2.0.13-6ubuntu0.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 513 kB, Installed size: 2664 kB
[02:16] <xface> i wont to be able to trnasfer files btween resiserfs and ext3
[02:16] <xface> hwo can i do it?
[02:16] <brenner> whatwhat: does that one show up?
[02:17] <fwind_mcd> Hi!I really am sorry about that lamering question :) but: (how) can i install gentoo packages under ubuntu?exactly: i need 'libstdc++ headers' as ./configure said. What package contains them?thnx
[02:17] <whatwhat> brenner no no ... no problema don worry ... i just in this and just watching website says to make some requetes froms command line probably doing something bad here here lol leave no problem
[02:17] <ompaul> fwind_mcd, you don't what package do you want to install>?
[02:18] <fwind_mcd> ??
[02:18] <fwind_mcd> i'm installing licq
[02:18] <ompaul> fwind_mcd, what is it you want to install, the reason I ask is it may be available in the ubuntu format
[02:18] <ompaul> thanks
[02:19] <ompaul> !tell fwind_mcd about univers
[02:19] <ompaul> !tell fwind_mcd about universe
[02:19] <ompaul> fwind_mcd, read that message from the bot
[02:19] <dan_> !tell dan_ about universe
[02:19] <fwind_mcd> thnx
[02:19] <ompaul> then you can install it on the command line with "sudo apt-get install licq"
[02:20] <xface> I wont to be able to transfer files bwtween my ubuntu reiserfs partitions to xp's ntfs partitions. Read and aslo write support as well.
[02:20] <xface> I must be able to do this both when i work on xp and also when i work on linux.
[02:20] <xface> How do i do it please?
[02:20] <xface> I heard that writing to ntfs volumes its still problematic. So what now?
[02:20] <brenner> fwind_mcd: your compiling days should be over.  like ompaul says, use ubuntu packages
[02:20] <ompaul> fwind_mcd, we also have a thing called multiverse for non free software - where the free is free as in freedom
[02:20] <xface> is there an ubunti dedicated forum?
[02:20] <n00b> xface: wiki.ubuntu.com
[02:21] <n00b> xface: sorry, i mean ubuntuforums.org
[02:21] <n00b> xface: it might be down atm
[02:21] <brenner> xface: we can't write to ntfs at the mo'
[02:21] <xface> so how can one do it?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> xface, Use a vfat partition as a go-between, plus the ext2/3 drivers for Windows.
[02:22] <n00b> xface, there are !!!EXPERIMENT!!! drivers out there for trying to write to NTFS partitions
[02:22] <metal> tonyyarusso, is ext2/3 as fast as ntfs?
[02:22] <zAo^> Can anyone tell me how to use Xgl by default?
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> metal, Significantly faster in my experience.
[02:22] <xface> tonyyarusso: i have no spare partiton to amke ti fat32
[02:22] <brenner> metal: you don't have to defrag either
[02:22] <mianiak> i have 2 hard drives can i link them boath up so that the installation uses boath, or do i have to format one ext3 after the install
[02:23] <tonyyarusso> xface, Can you resize one to make room?
[02:23] <metal> dont have to defrag?!! :O
[02:23] <brenner> metal: nope. :)
[02:23] <quaker> <-need help with quake4 ( the game is running, but i cant make screenshots or demos why?
[02:23] <metal> thats unbelieveable :D
[02:23] <xface> actualyl i dotn want to use a go-between aprtition
[02:24] <xface> and i dotn have space for that
[02:24] <fwind_mcd> brenner: you know, i have to pay for the i-net traffic, but i've a lot of gentoo packages in the local network :). frankly speaking i was amazed when i didnt find gcc in the package set installed 'by default' :)
[02:24] <idefix_> how do you log in as 'root'?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> xface, Okay, then you can write to Linux from Windows, and break things trying the other direction, but there's not magic answer.
[02:24] <metal> why does games only come to windows?
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, Why do you want to?
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> metal, Because that's a big market.
[02:25] <tonyyarusso> !tell idefix_ about root
[02:25] <ompaul> metal, because you don't send the company back the box and say I want this for my Linux box
[02:26] <brenner> fwind_mcd: gcc, make etc. are in the build-essential package.  as for why it's not included, my guess is b/c ubuntu is more of a "desktop distro". at default install at least
[02:26] <xface> ububntu forums wont load
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> xface, See /topic
[02:26] <LiNova> Hey, I'm back
[02:26] <LiNova> the sudo thing didnt work
[02:27] <LiNova> spouted some crap about users or something
[02:27] <n00b> i think that the ubuntu forums are down atm
[02:27] <metal> i started to use linux yesterday and i think its superior to windows already
[02:27] <xface> ah yes! whya re the forusm down?
[02:27] <irvin> LiNova, did you get the chance to read what it said?
[02:28] <LiNova> yeah
[02:28] <LiNova> yeah
[02:28] <metal> if they only could fix a standard for packagehandlers or what its called
[02:28] <LiNova> it said something about users
[02:28] <metal> and drivers for everything
[02:28] <LiNova> but i am using the one i set up when i installed ubuntu
[02:29] <boxemall> does anyone know how to switch switch gstreamer backend to ALSA on 6.04?
[02:29] <boxemall> i don't have sound on right channel
[02:30] <ompaul> LiNova, can you start fro the beginning, what is the problem
[02:30] <boxemall> "aplay -v /usr/share/sounds/startup.wav" - takes time but then plays sound like it should
[02:30] <boxemall> every other app does not work/no sound output.
[02:30] <brenner> boxemall: gstreamer-properties
[02:31] <boxemall> where do i find gstreamer props.? how do i open dialog?
[02:31] <santiago> help
[02:31] <ompaul> !anyone
[02:31] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[02:31] <brenner> boxemall: type that in a terminal
[02:32] <quaker> <-need help with quake4 ( the game is running, but i cant make screenshots or demos why?)
[02:32] <boxemall> works. and what's next?
[02:32] <lezouave> salut  ya des francais????
[02:32] <brenner> ompaul: heh. nice factoid
[02:32] <LiNova> Ok, I try to load symantic from the administartor menu in breezy, but it doesn't start, or even show signs of trying to start.
[02:32] <n00b> LiNova
[02:32] <brenner> boxemall: change audio output sink to alsa
[02:32] <ompaul> brenner, been there a long time
[02:32] <n00b> LiNova, the problem with that is because you are not admin
[02:33] <irvin> LiNova, it may be asking for your password
[02:33] <n00b> LiNova, or because you don't have the rights to it
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> !fr
[02:33] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> lezouave, ^^
[02:33] <LiNova> i installed it all yesterday, that was the user and password i chose
[02:33] <n00b> LiNova, type in groups <your username> and then show me what you get
[02:33] <LiNova> thats gonna be hard cos i am running my windows partition atm
[02:33] <lezouave> #kubuntu-fr
[02:33] <JoeBlow> how do i set cedega to have premissions for user name brian
[02:34] <JoeBlow> full premission
[02:34] <JoeBlow> chown or something
[02:34] <n00b> JoeBlow, i think its chmod 777
[02:34] <n00b> LiNova, well... if you ever do log back in and do groups <LiNova>
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> lezouave, /join #kubuntu-fr
[02:34] <n00b> you may find that you are not in an admin group
[02:34] <n00b> if that is the case
[02:35] <n00b> then you must enter the terminal and type in:
[02:35] <boxemall> i did so! whats next?  when enabling also and pressing test button i get an error message
[02:35] <n00b> sudo usermod -G admin <username>
[02:35] <n00b> this should give you access to the administrative tasks
[02:35] <boxemall> sorry meant "enabling alsa"
[02:35] <LiNova> thanks man
[02:35] <n00b> np
[02:35] <ompaul> n00b, and if the user does not have access to sudo how does that work?
[02:36] <n00b> well then maybe try su?
[02:36] <newbie1> what should i do in order to view 3gp files on my new ubuntu laptop?
[02:36] <ompaul> n00b, there is no operational su on ubuntu
[02:36] <ompaul> su: Authentication failure
[02:36] <n00b> what do you mean no su? you can su in terminal
[02:36] <emmanuel_> does anybody have LimeWire?
[02:36] <brenner> boxemall: i'm not sure then
[02:36] <brenner> ubotu: tell boxemall about sound
[02:37] <[A] ndy80> hi
[02:37] <ompaul> and unless you have a root password it will fail as root is disabled
[02:37] <ompaul> in normal cases
[02:37] <n00b> well yes but this is assuming that you set up the system by yourself and that you have locked yourself out of administrative tasks from GNOME
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> !tell n00b about root
[02:37] <sobersabre> hi guys. is dapper already more stable than unstable ?
[02:37] <ompaul> may suggestion would be to use live CD and add user to groups
[02:38] <ompaul> or the user to the adm and admin groups
[02:38] <[A] ndy80> a strange thing... I'm using Ubuntu 5.10, I've an nvidia video card. In these last days I'm experiencing a problem with Xorg. X and other x application takes about 25-30% of cpu and this slow down the whole system. How can I fix this?
[02:38] <tonyyarusso> sobersabre, Doesn't sound like it.  Stick with Breezy until Dapper's release unless you really know what you're doing.
[02:38] <ompaul> !dapper
[02:38] <ubotu> hmm... dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[02:39] <ompaul> sobersabre, ^^^^^^^^^^^^6
[02:39] <n00b> i have no idea what you guys were on about with su and authenicication
[02:39] <brenner> [A] ndy80: are you sure it's xorg?  what does 'top' say when the cpu % jumps?
[02:39] <brenner> [A] ndy80: i.e. what's eating the most cpu cycles
[02:40] <[A] ndy80> brenner: I'm using 'top' to check this.... and Xorg consumes 30% cpu. Other times Firefox but not now.
[02:40] <emmanuel_> anybody have LimeWire?
[02:40] <[A] ndy80> I didn't upgrade firefox or other things
[02:40] <foampeace> hi
[02:40] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, don't do it, wait until its released then you will have less updates breezy was running 100 megs a day at one stage
[02:40] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, while being developed
[02:40] <sobersabre> guys are there gonna be more packages for x86_64 ? like flash/java plugin 1.5 etc. ?
[02:40] <newbie1> what should i do in order to view 3gp files on my new ubuntu laptop?
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> ompaul, I meant after release.  I leave school April 29.
[02:41] <ompaul> tonyyarusso, ahh
[02:41] <ompaul> plenty of time then
[02:41] <tonyyarusso> newbie1, What is 3gp?
[02:41] <JoeBlow> how do i remove a program?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> sudo apt-get remove programname
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> JoeBlow, ^^
[02:42] <brenner> [A] ndy80: i'm going to have to defer. i have an ati card. sorry, but it does sound like maybe a driver issue
[02:42] <newbie1> tonyyarusso: 3gp is a video format that i could play on realplayer/quicktime on windows
[02:42] <brenner> tonyyarusso: what if programname doesn't match packagename? ;)
[02:42] <[A] ndy80> brenner: I didn't upgrade driver too recently....
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> newbie1, Have you already checked the stuff on the RestrictedFormats wiki page?
[02:43] <[A] ndy80> brenner: the only thing I upgraded was the kernel-image because update-manager told me to upgrade it!
[02:43] <newbie1> oic
[02:43] <foampeace> whats the best way to put video into the web
[02:43] <tonyyarusso> brenner, Then you try to find out what package it's from?
[02:43] <foampeace> for open source
[02:44] <brenner> [A] ndy80: did you install the nvidia driver?  iirc, you need to recompie/install it after a kernel change
[02:44] <brenner> *recompile even
[02:44] <[A] ndy80> brenner: nvidia driver is in the restricted package... I never installed it manually
[02:45] <brenner> hmm, dunno.  sorry
[02:46] <brenner> when the forums are back up, i suggest you try there
[02:47] <foampeace> !ubotu ubuntu-artwork
[02:47] <ubotu> foampeace: My cat's name is Mittens!
[02:50] <tonyyarusso> Now what I'd really like to know, ubotu, is who these people who juggle geese are.
[02:50] <JoeBlow> my cats breath smells like cat food
[02:51] <BiBe> hi, i'm using breenzy and want to upgrade an installed package. unfortunally the needed version ist only availible in dapper. i've downloaded the .deb package from dapper but how can i updgrade the package?
[02:51] <whatwhat> brennerb that what i was talking about ... in the help.hubuntu.com fqa they say to download the ipcheck from synaptic but ... there are no ipcheck in the sinaptic yes  i got the link from software but there are no ipcheck in sinaptoc lol
[02:53] <whatwhat> one week befor there phpbb and now no phpbb there lol
[02:53] <irvin> BiBe, remember that you need to upgrade the package dependencies too. if sudo dpkg -i <deb file> doesn't spit out errors then you're in luck
[02:53] <whatwhat> to many software everyday release i imagine :x
[02:54] <irvin> !info ipcheck
[02:54] <ubotu> ipcheck: (Dyndns.org client to register your dynamic IP address), section universe/net, is optional. Version: 0.225-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 43 kB, Installed size: 256 kB
[02:54] <sweet_kate> !lamp
[02:54] <ubotu> from memory, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[02:54] <brenner> whatwhat: your repos are probably borked
[02:54] <brenner> ubotu: tell whatwhat about repos
[02:54] <irvin> whatwhat, you need to enable universe to be able to install ipcheck
[02:55] <whatwhat> i don know im just newbie on this 1 week of linux :x lol
[02:55] <brenner> whatwhat: ubotu sent you a link in a pm
[02:56] <whatwhat> i catch it thank you :p
[02:57] <whatwhat> i think i need to install this in the kids pcs to :p
[02:57] <JoeBlow> can someone help me mount an iso
[02:58] <JoeBlow> i do mount -t foo.iso and it doesnt seem to work
[02:58] <takedown> JoeBlow: read man page about mount
[02:58] <coolboy> does anyone know what to download to play mp3
[02:58] <_jason> JoeBlow: mount -t iso 9660 -o loop /path/to/foo.iso /path/to/mountpoint
[02:59] <_jason> JoeBlow: err s/iso 9660/iso9660
[02:59] <mustard5> coolboy, yep
[02:59] <brenner> To mount a ISO file, sudo mount -o loop /path/to/file.iso /mnt/mntpoint
[02:59] <coolboy> what?
[02:59] <Terminus> !restrictedformats
[02:59] <ubotu> somebody said restrictedformats was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:59] <mustard5> coolboy, try this link http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies
[03:00] <coolboy> mustard5: thx
[03:00] <trackilizer> I really need your help guys, for some strange reason the X server won't start, i'm in bitchx right now.
[03:00] <trackilizer> What is it i should do?
[03:00] <VoX> trackilizer: whats the error
[03:00] <mustard5> coolboy, you can go to the link that ubotu has above too..thats included in the link I sent you as well
[03:00] <trackilizer> I just got this blue box saying something about X won't being able to start.
[03:01] <VoX> trackilizer: ok, what graphics card do you have
[03:01] <mustard5> trackilizer, what were you doing just prior to it happening?
[03:01] <trackilizer> mustard, nothing, i just booted my PC
[03:01] <n00b> what did you do beforehand trackilizer?
[03:01] <brenner> trackilizer: checked the log?
[03:01] <trackilizer> i messed around with the Xorg.conf file last night, that could be the problem.
[03:01] <VoX> heh
[03:02] <mustard5> trackilizer, that would be likely :)
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> trackilizer, Do you have a backup of it?
[03:02] <VoX> yeah, you could be on a winner there
[03:02] <mustard5> trackilizer, what did you do?
[03:02] <trackilizer> I backed up the file in my home folder but i don't know how to restore the old one.
[03:02] <eduardomartinez> Hellow?
[03:02] <fwind_mcd> well, another one question: in WinXP in the iexplorer i could browse througn the local net just clicking on the href's like \\video\gold\, or \\192.168.80.3\gold\, etc. Can i set up smth similar in, e.g. mozilla?(i'm using Breezy distr)thnx a lot!
[03:02] <mustard5> trackilizer, its pretty easy via the command line
[03:02] <whatwhat> irvin brenner ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh ;ppppppppp yes ok i allready undertand ... :p
[03:02] <trackilizer> mustard, i changed a few things trying to get a daul monitor system to work
[03:02] <tonyyarusso> Hi eduardomartinez.
[03:03] <mustard5> trackilizer, what is your backup file called?
[03:03] <trackilizer> mustard, "XORG.txt"
[03:03] <eduardomartinez> Is anybody there here?
[03:03] <n00b> yeah
[03:03] <fwind_mcd> (smbfs package installed and ofcorse i can do smbmount, but... i just want do it more easy :))
[03:03] <eduardomartinez> ohh
[03:03] <eduardomartinez> ok
[03:03] <eduardomartinez> hellow
[03:04] <n00b> hey
[03:04] <eduardomartinez> my name is edward
[03:04] <tonyyarusso> fwind_mcd, Check out Places > Network / Connect.
[03:04] <VoX> trackilizer: in what way are you trying to get dual monitors working? as in, do you have a graphics card with two plugs on it, or two sepperate graphics cards?
[03:04] <eduardomartinez> I live in Spain
[03:04] <mustard5> trackilizer, ok..so in terminal... do   ..  sudo cp ~/Desktop/XORG.txt /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:04] <trackilizer> VoX, 2 differnent carsds.
[03:04] <mustard5> sudo cp ~/Desktop/XORG.txt /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[03:04] <sobersabre> eduardomartinez what{tf}  do you need ? are you a bot ?
[03:04] <_jason> eduardomartinez: if you feel more comfortable getting help in spanish, type: /j #ubuntu-es
[03:05] <brenner> eduardomartinez: that's nice. do you have a question?
[03:05] <VoX> ugh i'm not touching that one heh
[03:05] <trackilizer> mustard, how do i open anoter terminal, or do i have to exit bitchx for that
[03:05] <eduardomartinez> what is bot?
[03:05] <eduardomartinez> ah
[03:05] <eduardomartinez> yes,yes
[03:05] <mustard5> trackilizer, ctrl + alt + f2  or f3 or f4
[03:05] <eduardomartinez> ok
[03:05] <eduardomartinez> tancks you!!!
[03:05] <trackilizer> thanks
[03:05] <BiBe> irvin: thx. these package needs to be updated in the dependency tree: libstdc++6 (>= 4.0.2-4), gcc-4.0-base (= 4.0.2-7ubuntu1), ibgcc1 (>= 1:4.0.2). can i risk an update oof these packages out of dapper?
[03:06] <rkl> Anybody any experience with Automatix?
[03:06] <jtrask> hi everyone
[03:06] <coolboy> if I wanna type an (at) sign what do I do
[03:06] <sobersabre> boa tarde...
[03:06] <rkl> I'm hearing different stories about it.
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[03:06] <ubotu> methinks automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:06] <mustard5> trackilizer, then you can try doing a sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:06] <jtrask> i have a question, im not sure its ubuntu-specific but i dont really know where to start
[03:06] <coolboy> shift + 2 doesn't work
[03:06] <tonyyarusso> rkl, ^^
[03:06] <_jason> sobersabre: portugues?
[03:06] <sobersabre> nao. :) um poco.
[03:06] <mustard5> trackilizer, or even startx I suppose
[03:06] <whatwhat> im portuguese
[03:06] <irvin> BiBe, i'd stop right there. these dependencies in turn depend on other packages
[03:06] <coolboy> i have belgia, keyboard setup
[03:06] <brenner> coolboy: what happens when you do?
[03:06] <jtrask> i have my ubuntu machine serving inside of my network, with a DNS off-site that resolves my domain name to my network. my router then forwards the port to this machine
[03:07] <coolboy> 2 this
[03:07] <irvin> BiBe, what particular package are you trying to install?
[03:07] <jtrask> how do i tell this machine what the domain name is so that it knows that when i view the site from here, the domain name resolves to localhost?
[03:07] <coolboy> and ctrl+alt+2 doesn't work either
[03:07] <_jason> jtrask: /etc/hosts I think
[03:07] <sobersabre> jtrask /etc/hosts ?
[03:07] <rkl> @uboto: Okay, thx... I'll install everything by hand than.
[03:07] <jtrask> alright, ill look around in there. thanks
[03:08] <n00b> kekeke i remember when peeps on irc channels for windows problems used to say: ALT + F4 to solve problems
[03:08] <LiNova> n00b?
[03:08] <sobersabre> jtrask look 1st at man nsswitch.conf
[03:08] <n00b> yeah
[03:08] <sweet_kate> do you know if there are particular procedures to follow to uninstall mysql and reinstall it??
[03:08] <tonyyarusso> !tell rkl about easyubuntu
[03:08] <LiNova> n00-b, are you there?
[03:08] <trackilizer> The file copied ok, but after doing "startx" i get this really long error message.
[03:08] <n00b> LiNova, ?
[03:08] <LiNova> *n00b
[03:08] <n00b> LiNova, i am here
[03:08] <trackilizer> Is there any other way to startx?
[03:08] <sobersabre> sweet_kate yes: you must 1st uninstall...
[03:08] <sobersabre> sweet_kate and then to install ;-)
[03:08] <VoX> trackilizer: what does the error message say
[03:08] <n00b> LiNova, has it worked?
[03:08] <emile> is there a way to have ffmpeg encode the audio streams in mp3 with ubuntu?
[03:08] <mustard5> trackilizer, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[03:08] <fwind_mcd> thanx a lot!
[03:08] <brenner> sweet_kate: or you can mark it for re-installation via synaptic
[03:08] <sobersabre> emile ther is a way.
[03:09] <mustard5> trackilizer, or even sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[03:09] <coolboy> brenner: it does 2
[03:09] <trackilizer> X10: Fatal error104..
[03:09] <BiBe> irvin: i's like to install a newer version of a filesharing client... ;) but do these packages really have dependencies? i could not find any more in on packages.ubuntu.com/dapper
[03:09] <LiNova> i did "groups paul" like you said and i got this "paul adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin"
[03:09] <tonyyarusso> sobersabre, sweet_kate: Why not do it as one step, apt-get install --reinstall?
[03:09] <brenner> coolboy: i don't know sorry....maybe play around with k/board layouts
[03:09] <coolboy> k
[03:09] <mustard5> trackilizer, ok..I would do a sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg then
[03:09] <sobersabre> tonyyarusso if you have noticed ... I was joking.
[03:09] <emile> sobersabre: you know which path to follow?
[03:09] <jtrask> sobersabre, so do i want to be editing nsswitch.conf or etc/hosts?
[03:09] <sobersabre> emile the right path: google ubuntu mp3
[03:10] <sobersabre> jtrask DEPENDS on WHAT YOU NEED.
[03:10] <tonyyarusso> sobersabre, Is that really helpful though?
[03:10] <irvin> BiBe, yes
[03:10] <trackilizer> Ok, i'll try that.
[03:10] <emile> sobersabre: what do you think i've been doing for some time now?
[03:10] <sobersabre> tonyyarusso not always.
[03:10] <LiNova> n00b, was that right?
[03:10] <Stormx2> is there an equivilent to M$'s hosts file (so I can redirect http://stormx.no-ip.org requests to http://localhost)
[03:10] <sobersabre> emile I have no idea
[03:10] <jtrask> sobersabre, i read over the man page. im not sure why it depends?
[03:10] <coolboy> what's the standard root pwd
[03:11] <VoX> there is none
[03:11] <tonyyarusso> !tell coolboy about root
[03:11] <mustard5> coolboy, root is disabled by default in ubuntu
[03:11] <n00b> LiNova, yes that was... now where you able to access it?
[03:11] <mustard5> coolboy, use sudo
[03:11] <ldy>  Hi all
[03:11] <sobersabre> Stormx2 is there an equivalent of UNIX nsswitch on windows ? :) hosts file is SUN invention afaik.
[03:11] <ldy> Is there a way to config the boot splash
[03:11] <mustard5> coolboy, sudo uses your user password
[03:11] <BiBe> irvin: http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/devel/gcc-4.0-base where are the dependencies listed?
[03:11] <coolboy> o k
[03:11] <VoX> not having root is a bit.. silly imho. like i can understand why, but i still think it's silly..
[03:11] <sobersabre> Stormx2 and it is a part of names service switch file, also SUN's invention.
[03:11] <Stormx2> sobersabre: Right. ;-)
[03:12] <trackilizer> I get, xserver-xorg is not istalled.
[03:12] <Stormx2> sobersabre: OK, well I only meant that I see it on my windows system
[03:12] <Stormx2> sobersabre: So what is the unix equivilent?
[03:12] <tonyyarusso> ldy, Yes, I did it yesterday.  Hold on a second while I dredge it up.
[03:12] <mustard5> VoX, I've never had it any other way, so I don't miss it :)
[03:12] <LiNova> no, it still didn't load
[03:12] <mustard5> VoX, ubuntu is my first and only linux distro
[03:12] <sobersabre> Stormx2 it is indeed used in linux, the way it meant to. windows hosts files ALWAYS overrides other resolving methods. this is kinda ...limited..
[03:12] <irvin> BiBe, how about libstdc?
[03:12] <VoX> mustard5: ah, i come from debian, so i'm used to root
[03:12] <LiNova> no, it still din't load
[03:13] <ldy> tonyyarusso: Thanks :)
[03:13] <sobersabre> Stormx2 /etc/hosts ; and read man nsswitch.conf and man hosts
[03:13] <trackilizer> mustard5, i get an error saying xeserver-xorg is not installd
[03:13] <mustard5> trackilizer, what?
[03:13] <trackilizer> What now?
[03:13] <mustard5> trackilizer, thats pretty strange :)
[03:13] <VoX> heh
[03:13] <mustard5> trackilizer, I would say you spelt it wrong
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> !tell ldy about usplashchange
[03:13] <metal> why cany i play .mp3 in rhytmbox?
[03:13] <sobersabre> emile well... have you found an answer ?
[03:13] <metal> cant
[03:13] <metal> *
[03:13] <mustard5> trackilizer, sudo dpk-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:13] <n00b> LiNova, this is the only other solution i have
[03:13] <tonyyarusso> ldy, There it is; check your message from ubotu.
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> !tell metal about mp3
[03:14] <gok> hi
[03:14] <LiNova> i also tried "sudo usermod -G admin paul" but i got "unable to lookup ubuntu via gethostby name ()"
[03:14] <sobersabre> !tell emile about mp3
[03:14] <gok> somebody speaks french ?
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> !fr
[03:14] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:14] <tonyyarusso> gok, ^^
[03:14] <gok> :-)
[03:14] <n00b> LiNova, using the LiveCD, go into the user and groups section from system=>Administration and choose your user
[03:15] <sobersabre> emile OK ?
[03:15] <ldy> tonyyarusso: I am reading it. thanks :)
[03:15] <coolboy> when I use sudo terminal blocks typing
[03:15] <tonyyarusso> ldy, np.
[03:15] <sobersabre> coolboy what do you mean ?
[03:15] <thomerz> hi, how can i mute my sound in xfce?
[03:15] <trackilizer> mustard5, "dpk-reconfigure, command not found"
[03:15] <BiBe> irvin: but the dependencies of http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/base/libstdc++6 are satisfied in breezy except gcc-4.0-base. but you would not advise the update of these three packages?
[03:15] <sobersabre> it doesn't show the stars '*' when you type the password ?
[03:15] <LiNova> ok thanks, ill give it a try
[03:15] <n00b> LiNova, one sec
[03:15] <n00b> LiNova, from there you have to choose the correct settings
[03:15] <LiNova> ok
[03:15] <VoX> trackilizer: type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:15] <KSean> :( the forums aren't working lol
[03:15] <mustard5> trackilizer, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg  ..sorry my spelling error now :)
[03:16] <trackilizer> Oh! thanks :)
[03:16] <LiNova> ok
[03:16] <n00b> LiNova, so click on your user; select properties, then user priviliges and select the ones that you need
[03:16] <n00b> LiNova, that is all
[03:16] <coolboy> sobersabre: when i use sudo <command> and press enter, i have to give a pwd: when I start typing it blocks
[03:16] <tonyyarusso> KSean, We know.  (/topic)
[03:16] <VoX> coolboy: how do you mean "it blocks"?
[03:16] <Rawplayer> how can i put messages what are in /var/log/messages put in different files with syslog
[03:17] <LiNova> thank you
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> coolboy, You won't see your password as you type it.
[03:17] <coolboy> VoX: i can't type nothing
[03:17] <tonyyarusso> coolboy, Just type it and hit enter anyway.  It's fine.
[03:17] <sobersabre> coolboy what do you expect - to see what you type as password ?!?!?!
[03:17] <mustard5> coolboy, this key presses are going in, but not visible
[03:17] <irvin> BiBe, umm... no since there are other packages installed on you machine that depends on those, and they would most likely break.
[03:18] <VoX> broken packages suck arse
[03:18] <coolboy> ow i thought there were gonna be stars
[03:18] <VoX> coolboy: not always
[03:18] <mustard5> coolboy, nope..a lot of people ask the same question don't worry ;)
[03:18] <melodie> hello, I'd like someone to help me on a slave hdd pb boot. what I've already done is written there: http://pastebin.com/517460
[03:18] <coolboy> o thx
[03:18] <irvin> BiBe, but if you're feeling adventurous, why not ;-)
[03:18] <melodie> hem, the reboot produced 'Grub Error 21'
[03:19] <trackilizer> VoX, Mustard5, thanks alot
[03:19] <mustard5> trackilizer, all going now?
[03:19] <trackilizer> Worked like a charm
[03:19] <emile> sobersabre: i have a specific question on how-to enable mp3 encoding in ffmpeg with ubuntu that is not on the wiki
[03:19] <emile> sobersabre: thnx anyway
[03:19] <trackilizer> See you guys in a bit, in gnome using x-chat
[03:19] <trackilizer> :)
[03:19] <mustard5> trackilizer, lucky you know how to use BitchX ;)
[03:19] <VoX> i guess that got it going again
[03:19] <christianp> hi all
[03:19] <mustard5> melodie, I'll just look up that error message
[03:19] <all> HI
[03:20] <sobersabre> emile OK. sorry. I don't understand. are you trying to use libffbmeg via programming ?
[03:20] <melodie> mustard5, thks :)
[03:20] <christianp> i'm trying to install a network printer from CUPs
[03:20] <matid> Anyone know why UbuntuForums is down? DDoS?
[03:20] <sobersabre> matid maybe maintenance... i don't know.
[03:20] <christianp> i know ip address, what i have to insert into address field?
[03:20] <christianp> http://ip_address?
[03:20] <sobersabre> emile: answer
[03:21] <emile> sobersabre: no i'm resizing an avi for use on pocketpc with ffmpeg, and i think i can get better results encrypting the audio stream in mp3
[03:21] <melodie> mustard5, this error message means grub does not find the hdd then I might have mistook the right adress for it
[03:21] <tonyyarusso> Will Dapper automatically tell new users about easyubuntu, etc?
[03:21] <melodie> see the pastebin: http://pastebin.com/517460
[03:22] <mustard5> melodie, your menu.lst looks pretty strange..is that what you have pasted?
[03:22] <tonyyarusso> Plus, I don't remember, on first boot are you advised to come here for help?
[03:22] <melodie> mustard5, this is just the end, the text I added to it, not the whole menu.lst
[03:22] <oboema> hello, i am new to ubuntu, just did an install, what is the standard install root password?
[03:23] <mustard5> melodie, This error is returned if the device part of a device- or full file name refers to a disk or BIOS device that is not present or not recognized by the BIOS in the system.
[03:23] <oboema> i wasn't asked to provide one at install
[03:23] <MrManu> could someone who has a pcmcia wlan adapter please query me his /etc/network/interfaces ? i cant get the automatic configuration of my network interface after hotplugging to work :/
[03:23] <Virogenesis> root  = user pasweord
[03:23] <melodie> mustard5, something has to be changed in the BIOS ?
[03:24] <melodie> mustard5, I'm going to check it out :)
[03:24] <sobersabre> emile you're right... you should run ffmpeg binary and see if it was compiled with --enable-lame
[03:24] <melodie> coming back, thks
[03:24] <Virogenesis> the way ubuntu works is who ever installs gets root but root is disabled
[03:24] <oboema> Virogenesis, su does not work
[03:24] <VoX> man it's weird seeing -i386 on the end of packages heh
[03:24] <tonyyarusso> !tell oboema about root
[03:24] <Virogenesis> sudo
[03:24] <VoX> Virogenesis: not quite
[03:24] <melodie> till soon  :)
[03:24] <sobersabre> I think you can see that via ldd /full/path/to/ffmpeg
[03:24] <metal> do i have to add outside repostories to play mp3 ?
[03:24] <mustard5> melodie, I would suspect that you have not put the right dev name in your menu.lst
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> oboema, Use sudo -i instead of su if you need to.
[03:25] <sobersabre> and see if it is linked against liblame
[03:25] <oboema> ok
[03:25] <sweet_kate> is there synaptic under ubuntu?
[03:25] <oboema> tonyyarusso, thanx
[03:25] <VoX> sweet_kate: yes
[03:25] <Virogenesis> yes
[03:25] <Virogenesis> under system
[03:25] <Virogenesis> admin...
[03:25] <tonyyarusso> metal, If that's what the wiki said, that's what you need to do.
[03:25] <Virogenesis> :)
[03:25] <justin_holt> could anybody help me out...
[03:25] <oboema> great. I just installd ubuntu and it runs like a nose
[03:25] <oboema> great distro
[03:26] <VoX> justin_holt: it depends on what you need helping out with
[03:26] <mustard5> justin_holt, ask your question and we will know
[03:26] <justin_holt> i can't figure out how to update firefox..
[03:26] <justin_holt> i am a noob to ubuntu
[03:26] <mustard5> justin_holt, to 1.5?
[03:26] <justin_holt> yeah
[03:26] <tonyyarusso> firefox1.5
[03:26] <coolboy> i downloaded limewire and i don't know how to open it, it's a .rpm file
[03:26] <VoX> haha
[03:26] <VoX> sorry
[03:26] <Virogenesis> alien coolboy
[03:26] <Virogenesis> :P
[03:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell coolboy about rpm
[03:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell coolboy about limewire
[03:26] <mustard5> justin_holt, well you can either wait for it to come to the repositories or you can install the new version yourself
[03:27] <_jason> coolboy: sorry, meant to send you the second one :P
[03:27] <justin_holt> how would i install it myselft
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell justin_holt about firefox1.5
[03:27] <VoX> i dont know why so many people are firefox fanatics
[03:27] <mustard5> coolboy, you can get limewire as a java application
[03:27] <Pikao> coolboy, use alien file.rpm for generate .deb and then use dpkf -i file.deb
[03:27] <VoX> it chews so much resources
[03:27] <sweet_kate> !firefox 1.5
[03:27] <ubotu> sweet_kate: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> VoX, Why shouldn't we be?
[03:27] <tonyyarusso> sweet_kate, Try it without the space.
[03:27] <mustard5> justin_holt, check for a PM from ubotu
[03:27] <Virogenesis> dpkf ?
[03:27] <sweet_kate> !firefox1.5
[03:27] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> VoX, What's your choice then?
[03:28] <Virogenesis> do you mean dpkg?
[03:28] <VoX> tonyyarusso: opera is better, more user-friendly than ff imho, and uses alot less resources.
[03:28] <justin_holt> thanks ubotu
[03:28] <VoX> tonyyarusso: but it isnt as stable as ff, granted
[03:28] <tonyyarusso> Virogenesis, I'm sure they do.  You can also do alien -i file.rpm to do it in one step.
[03:28] <jo> Bonjour  tous
[03:29] <mustard5> !fr
[03:29] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> VoX, I'm a huge fan of Firefox extensions.  I do occasionally use Opera if I need something light.
[03:29] <jo> Y'a qqun de Franais ?
[03:29] <tonyyarusso> jo: ^^
[03:29] <Virogenesis> i think i've used that before actually tonyyarusso
[03:29] <frogzoo> jo allez au #ubuntu-fr svp
[03:29] <sobersabre> emile are you there ?
[03:29] <Virogenesis> ff keeps to more standards than opera :)
[03:30] <frogzoo> anyone mgd to get legacy doom to work ?
[03:30] <sweet_kate> do you think is better gnome or kde?
[03:30] <frogzoo> sweet_kate, gnome is fine & less trouble with the pkgs
[03:30] <tonyyarusso> sweet_kate, It's hugely a personal preference issue.  I like Gnome myself, but you'll hear much either way.
[03:30] <VoX> tonyyarusso: i just dont understand how it can use so much resources. i've got an amd64 3400+ with 2gig of ram, and if i'm watching a dvd for instance(mplayer or vlc), then open a page in ff, it causes the dvd to go all jittery while the page loads
[03:31] <mustard5> sweet_kate, they both have there own different focus
[03:31] <mustard5> sweet_kate, so they are like comparing chalk and cheese
[03:31] <Virogenesis> gnome = simple :)
[03:31] <VoX> tonyyarusso: whereas, i can do _anything_ in opera, and there's no noticable difference.
[03:31] <frogzoo> VoX, which player u using?
[03:31] <elektro82> Tell me what I'm doing wrong, I type "sudo rm -d <the empty folder name>" and it says "Is a directory".
[03:31] <VoX> frogzoo: happens wither either mplayer or vlc
[03:32] <frogzoo> elektro82, you want rmdir
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> VoX, Huh.  I haven't really had trouble, but I don't think I've ever browsed while watching a dvd either.
[03:32] <MrManu> has noone a pcmcia wlan adapter who could send me his /etc/network/interfaces? pleeeease :)
[03:32] <elektro82> lol, thanks frog
[03:32] <mustard5> elektro82, does it have hidden files in it?
[03:32] <frogzoo> VoX, just an idea, mebbe use gxine & set the buffers to use like 500meg - problem solved
[03:32] <tonyyarusso> mustard5, So which is Gnome?  The chalk or the cheese?
[03:32] <coolboy> i runned runLime.sh what now?
[03:32] <VoX> tonyyarusso: i've got twinview happening. 2x21" sony flatscreens make life quite enjoyable :)
[03:33] <mustard5> tonyyarusso, hehe..
[03:33] <tonyyarusso> VoX, Ah.
[03:33] <_jason> coolboy: according to ubotu, you should have limewire
[03:33] <desmo1>  has anyone encountered problems with getting ubuntu 5.1 networking with an nv430 chipset ?
[03:33] <mustard5> coolboy, go into your home directory and find the limwire folder
[03:33] <mustard5> coolboy, look for the limewire.sh
[03:33] <VoX> frogzoo: yeah but my point is that i shouldnt /need/ to do something like that. it's a web browser, it's not like it's compliling kernel modules or some such..
[03:33] <Virogenesis> cheese....cheese goes with wine.... wine goes with good meal....good meal goes with class
[03:34] <frogzoo> VoX, dvd is very picky if it can't get b/w
[03:34] <Virogenesis> so gnome = cheese :)
[03:34] <coolboy> mustard5: i found it
[03:34] <Virogenesis> that help tonyyarusso? :P
[03:34] <mustard5> coolboy, double click on it and choose 'Run'
[03:34] <VoX> frogzoo: yes i understand that. my point is that if i can do anything with opera and it has no ill-effects.
[03:34] <frogzoo> VoX, my point, if your dvd has to access disk, & your disk is busy - you get jitter
[03:35] <emile> sobersabre: yes?
[03:35] <coolboy> mustard5: nothing happens
[03:35] <sobersabre> have you seen my messages about ffmpeg ?
[03:35] <sobersabre> you can run ffmpeg -version.
[03:35] <VoX> frogzoo: it's a cpu-load issue, not a device-access issue
[03:35] <_jason> coolboy: have you installed java?
[03:35] <frogzoo> VoX, much of a memory footprint difference?
[03:35] <mustard5> coolboy, nothing at all?
[03:35] <sobersabre> see if there is mp3lame support
[03:35] <coolboy> mustard5: nope
[03:35] <mustard5> coolboy, I take it you have installed java?
[03:35] <Trackilizer> Using X-chat now
[03:35] <sobersabre> if not - download lame and ffmpeg sources.
[03:36] <Trackilizer> Thanks again guys
[03:36] <coolboy> mustard5: i don't think so
[03:36] <sobersabre> and install 1st lame, then ffmpeg
[03:36] <Trackilizer> Worked perfectly
[03:36] <VoX> frogzoo: not huge. regardless, there's 2 gigs of ram and 1/2gig of swap
[03:36] <VoX> Trackilizer: excelent
[03:36] <sobersabre> run ffmpeg's configure with --enable-mp3lame
[03:36] <sobersabre> capisci ?
[03:36] <frogzoo> VoX, if you start swapping while playing dvd, you have a problem
[03:36] <mustard5> coolboy, did you install the java version of limewire or the rpm aliened to a .deb?
[03:37] <VoX> frogzoo: agreed. but i've never seen this machine even touch swap, so that isnt the issue
[03:37] <coolboy> mustard5: i think java version
[03:37] <emile> sobersabre: it's not compiled with mp3lame, and there's no sources in the repositories
[03:37] <mustard5> coolboy, k..well you need to install java too :)
[03:37] <mustard5> !javadeb
[03:37] <ubotu> Java can be found in multiverse. Sun and IBM java packages can be found at http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:37] <treyh0> where can i download strictly security updates to put on a CD for a computer with no internet access?
[03:37] <treyh0> for breezy
[03:37] <emile> sobersabre: i want to follow this walkthrough i just found: http://po-ru.com/diary/fixing-ffmpeg-on-ubuntu/
[03:37] <frogzoo> VoX, just casting about - like u say, it's odd opera makes the difference - pipelining in ff enabled?
[03:37] <KSean> Hey, is "wine tools" avaliable via apt-get?
[03:38] <frogzoo> KSean, yup, just 'wine' pkg
[03:38] <KSean> I already installed wine
[03:38] <mustard5> coolboy, go to this link... http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java/
[03:38] <KSean> I just dunno how to use it
[03:38] <frogzoo> KSean, search for 'wine' in synaptic - there's various other tools which are kinda optional
[03:38] <KSean> ok
[03:38] <frogzoo> KSean, > wine DOZE_APP & you're good
[03:38] <sobersabre> emile, great link :)
[03:39] <sobersabre> I did this 'by hand'
[03:39] <VoX> frogzoo: where is that?
[03:39] <coolboy> k
[03:39] <sobersabre> I mean without dpkg or apt.
[03:39] <mustard5> coolboy, hmm nevermind..thats no good
[03:39] <sobersabre> ok thanks all bye bye
[03:39] <KSean> wine: cannot find 'DOZE_APP'
[03:39] <frogzoo> VoX, google for it, but it's not the default - makes for more open sockets so heavier load, but it's much quicker
[03:39] <treyh0> why do you call it "doze"
[03:39] <coolboy> mustard5: can't i download it thru synaptec
[03:40] <treyh0> its like you make fun of it
[03:40] <treyh0> yet you use it
[03:40] <VoX> frogzoo: heh that'll make the problem worse :P
[03:40] <transgress> is it safe to remove mozilla-browser?
[03:40] <frogzoo> VoX, u need to change some settings in config:options
[03:40] <frogzoo> VoX, why I was wondering...
[03:40] <VoX> Trackilizer: yes
[03:40] <VoX> Trackilizer: aslong as you have another web browser to use
[03:40] <mustard5> coolboy, you probably can if you add the seveas repo to your sources.list, but I'm trying to find an easier way...one second
[03:40] <coolboy> k
[03:41] <frogzoo> VoX, oh stupid question - dma enabled ?
[03:41] <emile> when i try to do the following: sudo apt-get build-dep ffmpeg  i get an error message: E: Unable to find a source package for ffmpeg  i believe i allready enable universe and multiverse. Can someone explain how comes?
[03:41] <VoX> frogzoo: because it's the load that ff generates when it's loading a page, that's causing the playback issues
[03:41] <VoX> frogzoo: heh of course :)
[03:42] <frogzoo> VoX, would be interesting to nice ff & see if there's a diff
[03:42] <Seveas> mustard5, there is no easier way. If you want to use apt, you need it in your sources.list :)
[03:42] <idefix_> ok, let's assume that some pretty clever people made VI-editor and that all the commands are superlogic and learning them is like learning a language spoken by many many people
[03:42] <KSean> How do I run an application using wine? Most of them just crash :S
[03:42] <mustard5> Seveas, ah ok..so the .deb packages are not available anymore?
[03:42] <VoX> frogzoo: i'll check
[03:42] <desmo1> about 5.1's networking problem .. anyone know how i can try to get dhcp working (or see if the drivers for lan are actually working?)
[03:42] <Seveas> mustard5, sure they are :)
[03:43] <aurelien> hi
[03:43] <mustard5> Seveas via apt-get though I take it?
[03:43] <frogzoo> KSean, you might need to consult the wine docs - usually helps if you install real windows dlls for example
[03:43] <melodie> mustard5, it works now i had to activate the slave in the BIOS and the trick was done :)
[03:43] <ves> emile: you've definitely remember to do a "apt-get update"?
[03:43] <Seveas> mustard5, if you download them manually and use dpkg, you don't need it in your sources.list
[03:43] <KSean> :S
[03:43] <mustard5> melodie, ah ok..well done
[03:43] <mustard5> Seveas, yeah..just looking at the link for javadeb I'm not finding the packages thats all :)
[03:44] <aurelien> is there someone who can help me? i have configurate my internet connection with wifi but when i restart, i have to reconfigure it...what can i do to save config?
[03:44] <emile> ves: yes
[03:44] <melodie> mustard5, thks a lot, I hadn't thought about it  :)
[03:44] <Seveas> mustard5, http://mirror3.ubuntulinux.nl/dists/breezy-seveas/java
[03:44] <kent> Im having trouble upgrading breezy to Dapper becaus of coreutils wanting to overwrite md5sum.textutils.1.gz. Has some one else run into this problem? There is a bugreport on malone that is 4 weeks old, and I have filed a comment about it now,  but if some one has a way to manually fix it I would be happy. I cant upgrade now :(
[03:44] <metal> hmm when i try to play a mp3 it says failed to play, couldnt open the resource for writing
[03:44] <VoX> frogzoo: is there a way to find out what priority it(ff) is currently set to
[03:44] <Seveas> there you can manually download them
[03:45] <mustard5> Seveas, heh..now I have 'access forbidden' :)
[03:45] <aurelien> nobody?
[03:45] <Seveas> mustard5, wtd...
[03:45] <Seveas> that shouldn't happen...
[03:46] <mustard5> Seveas, I can try the other mirrors
[03:46] <frogzoo> VoX, all procs default to nice = 0 (shows in ps or top)
[03:46] <ves> emile: see how your sources.list compares to: http://ves.pastebin.com/517483 it's working fine here.
[03:46] <mustard5> coolboy, I'll work this out eventually...:)
[03:46] <Seveas> mustard5, the users.lichtsnel.nl mirror should workl
[03:46] <VoX> frogzoo: touche` :)
[03:46] <coolboy> mustard5: take our time :)
[03:47] <bryanl> i love new computer day
[03:47] <EightiesK> hello.
[03:48] <EightiesK> i have kubuntu is there neway to have both kde and gnome on the same system?
[03:48] <_jason> EightiesK: yes, install the package ubuntu-desktop
[03:48] <coolboy> someone type an (at) plz
[03:48] <Seveas> @
[03:48] <coolboy> thx
[03:48] <idefix_> I have gnome, is kde better?
[03:48] <VoX> frogzoo: even setting ff to 19 it still causes the same disruption
[03:48] <idefix_> EightiesK I have gnome, is kde better?
[03:49] <VoX> idefix_: it's a personal choice
[03:49] <emile> ves: thanks i'll compare those
[03:49] <EightiesK> idefix_: its all opinion.
[03:49] <takedown> !kde
[03:49] <ubotu> kde is, like, totally, A powerful, free desktop environment for UNIX. IRC: #kubuntu #kde ; install from Ubuntu: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ; ISOs: http://releases.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/breezy/
[03:49] <sweet_kate> how can i remove completely(also config files) a package from shell?
[03:49] <VoX> idefix_: it's like asking is a blue car better than a grey one
[03:49] <bryanl> vox, no it isn't
[03:49] <aurelien> i have configurate my internet connection with wifi but when i restart, i have to reconfigure it...what can i do to save config?
[03:49] <bryanl> technically... kde is better
[03:49] <_jason> sweet_kate: sudo apt-get remove --purge package_name
[03:49] <bryanl> in execution... its personal preference
[03:50] <mianiak> hi
[03:50] <VoX> bryanl: my point is that for most people, it's personal preference
[03:50] <ves> emile: probably especially the top line: deb-src http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy main restricted where the ffmpeg sources seemed to come from while I was testing.
[03:50] <sweet_kate> !lamp
[03:50] <ubotu> from memory, lamp is Linux-Apache-MySQL-PHP, one of the standard internet server installations. Installing LAMP in Ubuntu is fairly straightforward. More info at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP
[03:51] <mianiak> i have installed the server, can i run synaptic?
[03:51] <frogzoo> idefix_, gnome is the default for ubuntu, so it's usually less problematic unless u enjoy tinkering
[03:51] <emile> ves: thnx it's working now
[03:51] <christianp> can anyone help me in configuring my network printer?
[03:51] <christianp> i don't know what i have to put into URI field
[03:52] <mustard5> coolboy, it looks like if you want to install via seveas repo your going to have to add them to your sources.list..either that or do the manual install from the Sun java site
[03:52] <frogzoo> VoX, yep, that's wierd - can't really see how it could be a problem
[03:52] <ves> emile: no bother
[03:52] <coolboy> mustard: i'll ad them, plz guide me
[03:52] <VoX> frogzoo: i know.. i dont understand it either. *shrug*
[03:53] <mustard5> coolboy, go to this link..
[03:53] <mustard5> http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[03:53] <renegade68> #?
[03:53] <coolboy> mustard5: and then?
[03:53] <mustard5> coolboy, pick on of the mirrors on that page...
[03:53] <frogzoo> VoX, one thing that might help, maybe, and that would be to read the dvd from a raw device - I haven't had any luck getting this working though
[03:53] <mustard5> coolboy, and we will copy that line into your sources.list file
[03:54] <ubuntugeek> The ubuntuforums server crashed last night from a hardware failure. We are working to get it back online asap.  I have no eta yet.
[03:54] <mustard5> coolboy, open your sources.list file with this command  sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <mustard5> coolboy, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:54] <frogzoo> ubuntugeek, how does an ubuntu server crash ??? :)
[03:54] <y_o_u> hello all. i am trying to run a ./configure command and am getting the error message "checking for X... configure: error: can't find X includes. Please check your installation and add the correct paths.". I cant find much in the Kubuntu forums, but apparently I am missing a package. My question is which one? I have installed anyone that remotely looked like one mentioned, and the XFree86-libs and XFree86-devel was mentioned, but I dont ha
[03:54] <y_o_u> ve those and can seem to apt-get them. Any ideas? thanks
[03:54] <VoX> frogzoo: ah it doesnt bother me that much, it's just a peev with ff :)
[03:54] <ubuntugeek> :) ..
[03:55] <truz24> Is there a known problem with gcc?  When trying to compile a very simple C program, I get the following error: /usr/bin/ld: crt1.o: No such file: No such file or directory
[03:55] <truz24> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[03:55] <VoX> y_o_u: try looking for xorg-dev libs
[03:55] <VoX> y_o_u: seeing as ubuntu doesnt use xfree anymore.. :)
[03:55] <mustard5> coolboy, you copy one of the lines that says    deb http://blahblahblah into your sources.list ..put it on the bottom somewhere
[03:55] <MachineScrew> how do I set up a root password in mysql
[03:56] <alberto> hola
[03:56] <bryanl> MachineScrew, mysqladmin -u root password 'newpassword'
[03:56] <y_o_u> VoX: i only have options for an xorg-common and xorg-driver-synaptics (which are both installed). Apt get xorg-dev libs ?
[03:56] <bryanl> oh
[03:56] <mustard5> coolboy, how is that going?  any questions?
[03:56] <coolboy> mustard5: and then it's done
[03:56] <MachineScrew> bryanl, ok the '' are needed
[03:56] <VoX> y_o_u: hang a sec
[03:56] <mustard5> coolboy, now do a sudo apt-get update
[03:57] <alberto> ouch here no speaking spanish??
[03:57] <mustard5> coolboy, we could put the gpg keys in too actually :)
[03:57] <mustard5> coolboy, instructions for the gpg keys are on the webpage
[03:57] <coolboy> mustard5: do I just close it ?
[03:57] <MachineScrew> if not now I need to change new-password to something else
[03:57] <mustard5> coolboy, save it
[03:57] <VoX> y_o_u: put the error message in a pastebin so i can see it
[03:57] <mustard5> coolboy, do the gpg key set up on that webpage too
[03:58] <mustard5> coolboy, its a little bit further down the page ...in the white box
[03:58] <y_o_u> VoX, sorry, I am a n00b here, pastebin=private message? also, i am on another machine than the one giving me the error currenly (havent installed xchat on kubuntu yet.
[03:59] <coolboy> mustard5: it gives error that it's wrong
[03:59] <mustard5> coolboy, what error?
[03:59] <coolboy> mustard5: misvormde regel
[03:59] <sdkfmlsmdf> hi all! writinga short bash script.. Need to know how to wait for key .. is there any inbuilt command ?
[03:59] <VoX> y_o_u: ah ok. a pastebin is a website that lets you copy information(usually error messages) onto it, and then gives you a unique url that you can give to other people, so they can view it
[04:00] <mustard5> coolboy, what command did you put in?
[04:00] <VoX> y_o_u: what are you trying to compile?
[04:00] <coolboy> mustard5: deb http://mirror2.ubuntulinux.nl/ breezy-seveas
[04:00] <coolboy> o no sr
[04:00] <mustard5> :)
[04:01] <y_o_u> Vox: trying to compile Baghira under Kubuntu 5.10. And i will find a pastebin and let you know when i get it up
[04:01] <coolboy> mustard5: sudo apt-get update i putted in
[04:01] <mustard5> coolboy, ah k..yeah..thats fine...do the gpg key setup instructions on the webpage
[04:01] <VoX> y_o_u: http://pastebin.com
[04:01] <coolboy> how?
[04:01] <y_o_u> Vox: thanks
[04:02] <coolboy> mustard5:how?
[04:02] <mustard5> coolboy, look down the web page you were on...to the white box
[04:02] <ceilingfish> hullo
[04:02] <christian_> Hi all i have a huge problem when i type: sudo apt-get install proftp it says that the package don't exist :S can someone help me to install an FTP server on my ubuntu installation ?? =)
[04:02] <mustard5> coolboy, enter those commands in terminal
[04:02] <MacSlow> http://macslow.mine.nu/?p=28
[04:02] <coolboy> mustard5: can i copy'n'paste themN
[04:02] <mustard5> coolboy, sure
[04:03] <mustard5> coolboy, I would :)
[04:03] <mustard5> coolboy, one line at a time
[04:03] <sweet_kate> how do i remove completely mysql?
[04:04] <sweet_kate> !removemysql
[04:04] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, sweet_kate
[04:04] <greenpenguin13> sudo apt-get remove --purge mysql*
[04:04] <thomerz> what is the default username/password for cups?
[04:05] <metal> how can i get my realtek soundcard to work?
[04:05] <ceilingfish> christian, I think you have managed to get the proftpd package into your apt packages from a source you have then taken out of sources.list. Try going to www.apt-get.org to find another source and add it back in. But I may be noobing horribly.
[04:05] <sweet_kate> greenpenguin13: are you sure?
[04:05] <kent> I added a comment to a bugreport on malone which seems to only be imports of bugreports in debian.  Will my bugreport be read then?
[04:05] <greenpenguin13> probably
[04:05] <mustard5> coolboy, going ok..any questions?
[04:05] <jerris> does anyone knoe how to disable display power management in ubuntu?
[04:06] <coolboy> mustard5: done
[04:06] <mustard5> coolboy, k..now do the sudo apt-get update again
[04:06] <mustard5> coolboy, it should be error free now
[04:06] <y_o_u> VoX: posted at http://pastebin.com/517507, under then name of "You"
[04:06] <coolboy> same error
[04:06] <mustard5> coolboy, assuming you put the line in correctly on sources.list
[04:06] <greenpenguin13> sweet_kate: actually, that gets rid of other stuff too
[04:07] <VoX> y_o_u: righto
[04:07] <sweet_kate> in fact!!
[04:07] <ishit> which program do i use to play an interner radio station. m usin ubuntu
[04:07] <ceilingfish> What web browser do people use? I have tried Firefox and Mozilla, but they both seemed pretty buggy. Anyone know something that works better?
[04:08] <ishit> ceilingfish : try opera
[04:08] <mustard5> coolboy, what is that error in English?
[04:08] <Opiea> When I try to run makeconfig or makexconfig in my kernel directory to tell tulip to load the Uli drivers for my ethernet it says too few arguements
[04:08] <ceilingfish> ishit, You can get opera on ubuntu? Well I never.
[04:08] <coolboy> mustard5: i changed the sources list again
[04:09] <newbietux> greetings from germany...
[04:09] <VoX> y_o_u: give me a min
[04:09] <mustard5> coolboy, what did you put in?
[04:09] <coolboy> mustard5: the full line this time
[04:09] <y_o_u> VoX: k
[04:09] <ishit> ceilingfiash: may b ur sources.list is not updated
[04:09] <mustard5> coolboy, can you copy that line in here for me?
[04:09] <coolboy> mustard5: what now?? it worked
[04:10] <mustard5> ok
[04:10] <ceilingfish> ishit, has it been added to a new distro now it's gone free?
[04:10] <mustard5> coolboy, now try this.....
[04:10] <mustard5> coolboy, sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5
[04:10] <ishit> ceilingfish: i hav it installed n runnin smooth. i jus did an apt-get install
[04:11] <knoppix_> hi
[04:11] <mustard5> coolboy, tell me if it starts installing :)
[04:11] <mustard5> coolboy, we might have had an easier time doing it the other way :P
[04:11] <coolboy> mustard5: server aint found
[04:11] <ishit> celingfish: if u wana i can mail u my sources.list it has all the softwares i need
[04:12] <VoX> y_o_u: why not just install the package?
[04:12] <VoX> y_o_u: why do you want to compile it from source?
[04:12] <mustard5> coolboy, k, well lets give this method up...remove that line from your sources.list
[04:12] <ceilingfish> weird ishit, I can't seem to find it I'll give Epiphany a whirl. Less baggage than Moz.
[04:12] <ishit> which program do i use to play an interner radio station. m usin ubuntu
[04:12] <mustard5> coolboy, this is more trouble than the other way atm
[04:12] <mustard5> coolboy, it used to be easier :)
[04:12] <y_o_u> VoX: revealing my ignorance, I didn't know any other way of doing it, to be honest. How do install the package from a tar ball?
[04:13] <ishit> celingfish: ah al rite. best of luck
[04:13] <coolboy> mustard5: what's the command for the list again
[04:13] <VoX> y_o_u: do you know how ubuntu's package management system works?
[04:13] <mustard5> coolboy, when I did it you just downloaded a .deb package directly and used a dpkg command to install
[04:13] <mustard5> coolboy, sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:13] <idefix_> what cool companies in the world are working on implememting the Maxwelle equations in numerical math programs?
[04:13] <knoppix_> I'm currently trying to get a Ubuntu / WinXP dual boot. Ubuntu was installed first, then I partitioned and installed XP. It currently boots into XP automatically. At the moment I'm running knoppix off the CD as I'm told you need to be in Linux to use grub
[04:13] <y_o_u> VoX: somewhat. i have been looking in Adept all morning. that what you mean?
[04:14] <knoppix_> Anyone know what to do next?
[04:14] <dakota360> lol
[04:14] <coolboy> mustard5: done deleting
[04:14] <knoppix_> I've been reading, but I'm not yet confident I know what I'm meant to be doing.
[04:14] <mustard5> coolboy, k..then do a sudo apt-get update after you save
[04:14] <VoX> y_o_u: it's available as an ubuntu package. type  sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira
[04:15] <mustard5> coolboy, that will set it all up again the way it was before we started this  :)
[04:15] <coolboy> mustard5: done
[04:15] <mustard5> coolboy, k
[04:15] <ceilingfish> knoppix, start again, but installing the other way round I think.
[04:15] <VoX> y_o_u: you'll then need to go into kde and activate it
[04:15] <FEL> Hi guys, im on a completely FRESH install of ubuntu 5.10 (x64) i haven't ran any updates yet. I've had a hard time getting 3D support for my ATi X800 to work. There's alot of different guides out there, maybe one of you guys can let me know which guide ACTUALLY WORK? Thanks a million.
[04:15] <mustard5> coolboy, ok..go here now.. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-e2ebd70ede0e3eb2117ffbd618d2295dd1540dca
[04:15] <knoppix_> ceilingfish : :P I'm sure this is possible
[04:15] <y_o_u> VoX: ok, that makes sense, i didnt know you could apt-get baghira.
[04:15] <mustard5> coolboy, this is the manual method..
[04:16] <mustard5> coolboy, follow the instructions on that section of the wiki...you need to go to the Sun website first and download java
[04:16] <VoX> y_o_u: in the system menu of kde, you should find Synaptic.  run that, and you can search for packages
[04:16] <idefix_> if you use linux and gedit you are sort of a loser, aren't you? a real man uses VI, no?
[04:16] <McGyver^> hi
[04:16] <coolboy> mustard5: k
[04:16] <coolboy> mustard5: thx
[04:16] <ceilingfish> knoppix, so was I, someone around here may know how to get around it. Hopefully.
[04:17] <VoX> idefix_: vi pisses me off
[04:17] <mustard5> coolboy, the link to the website is in the instructions
[04:17] <coolboy> k
[04:17] <idefix_> VoX, but I think it is kind of cool, you just have to know that there are two modes, that's all
[04:17] <idefix_> VoX, do you use gedit or emacs or something else even?
[04:17] <VoX> idefix_: joe
[04:17] <knoppix_> celingfish : what went wrong for you?
[04:17] <y_o_u> VoX: under the systme menu of KDE, i have a adept updater, that what you mean? nothing called "Synaptic"
[04:18] <knoppix_> I mean, there are tutorials that claim this is fairly easy
[04:18] <VoX> y_o_u: gah hang on, let me change to kde
[04:18] <idefix_> who on earth programmed joe then?
[04:18] <idefix_> (VoX)
[04:18] <VoX> idefix_: no idea. i just find it 3-4 times faster to use than vi
[04:19] <_jeff> hey guys
[04:19] <idefix_> could I, since I have a cable internet connection connect to any cool big computer in the world and use advanced programs if they allow it?
[04:19] <klaym> hey could it be possible to merge the xchat channel tab to the gnome panel? that would be cool! so you'd always see the channels and private msg:s but wouldn't have to keep xchat open all the time!
[04:19] <_jeff> does anyone know how to manually mount a cd?
[04:19] <_jeff> im trying to play starcraft broodwar on wine
[04:19] <dennis_> hi
[04:19] <metal> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i7483
[04:19] <metal> whats wrong?
[04:19] <teranex> hi. i just installed ubuntu 5.10, and can't find how i can change my keyboard layout. it is currently qwerty but it should be azerty
[04:19] <idefix_> _jeff I heard wine supports 1/1000 of the programs windows does at 75% the speed
[04:19] <imc_> Hi. Trying to install gnucash with apt-get and getting nonsense about "insert the Breezy DISK..."
[04:20] <y_o_u> VoX: thanks for the help, i am running late for an appointment and HAVE to go now, so thanks and sorry I have to run. Thanks
[04:20] <idefix_> what is gnucash?
[04:20] <_jeff> idefix: yeah probably
[04:20] <imc_> idefix_ it's an accounting program like quickbooks.
[04:20] <mustard5> imc_, take the line out of your sources.list for the CD and you won't get that anymore
[04:20] <imc_> But I've never ben told to insert my INSTALL disk ever before
[04:20] <ceilingfish> knoppix, mainly it was that same issue, XP seems to overwrite some stuff in the boot partition which basically means the computer doesn't know Linux is installed. Then I managed to install the otherway round, total ubuntu with damn nVidia drivers (which as it turns out i DON'T need to install from source!) and got a giant doorstop after I realised that I couldn't get rid of grub
[04:20] <imc_> Thanks mustard5
[04:20] <_jeff> idefix:i installed bw smoothly with wine, but it says i dont have the cd in the drive
[04:20] <mustard5> imc_, it will download the stuff instead of looking for them on the CD
[04:20] <idefix_> every person who graduated from university should go to the "Kamer van Koophandel" and register his own company, right?
[04:21] <_jeff> idefix: which is probably because it isnt mounted
[04:21] <_jeff> does anyone know how to manually mount a cd?
[04:21] <idefix_> _jeff I have the ISO file, but so do you probably
[04:21] <imc_> Thanks, mustard5 - worked like a charm
[04:21] <jackson> how do I use .patch files?
[04:21] <mustard5> _jeff, mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom ?
[04:21] <imc_> I had thought I had removed that !
[04:22] <pedrog> _jeff what is in your fstab for cdrom?
[04:22] <idefix_> mustard5 how do you mount ISO files?
[04:22] <_jeff> pedrog: fstab?
[04:22] <ceilingfish> Oh for gods....  ishit? Where did you get Opera from again?
[04:22] <knoppix_> celingfish : my understanding is that you can install grub, and overwrite the windows boot loader, at this stage
[04:22] <mustard5> idefix_, that I don't know :)
[04:23] <mustard5> idefix_, I was wondering the same thing myself tonight
[04:23] <pedrog> mount -o loop -t iso9660 file.iso /mountpoint
[04:23] <ceilingfish> That's what I hoped, and eventually windows 98 installer managed to get rid of it.
[04:23] <ishit> ceilingfish : wats wrong
[04:23] <idefix_> but my ISO file starcraft broodwar won't run under ubuntu, I'm afraid..
[04:24] <y_o_u> VoX: i found a howto on the Synaptic manager in Kubuntu, so I think/hope I can handle it from here. Thanks alot for the help, I appreciate it.
[04:24] <ishit> how do play an internet radio station in ubuntu
[04:24] <idefix_> is wine big? do you apt-get it ?
[04:25] <knoppix_> so grub just fails to install?
[04:25] <knoppix_> hmm
[04:25] <mweichert> hi guys, I'm trying to setup a firewall with two NICs, one for the WAN, one for the LAN, and another that I want to use for my vonage line. I want this device to use internet connection sharing as well
[04:25] <VoX> y_o_u: it's called  Package Management (Synaptic Package Manager) or something similar
[04:25] <mweichert> I'm using firestarter, but I noticed that I can only use one NIC for internet connection sharing
[04:25] <teranex> when i try "loadkeys be-latin1" in a console it gives me a bunch of error messages: Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console", and my keyboard is still in qwerty :(
[04:25] <coolboy> mustard5: done java is installed
[04:25] <coolboy> mustard5: now what do I do to limewire
[04:26] <ceilingfish> ishit, I give up on mozilla based browsers they're all crashing, could you point me to that Opera source?
[04:26] <e> www.opera.com
[04:26] <mustard5> coolboy, go into limewire directory in your home folder
[04:27] <coolboy> mustard5: ok and then?
[04:27] <mustard5> coolboy, double click on runLime.sh
[04:27] <dennis_> how can i install some programms with linux ?   thx for help
[04:27] <coolboy> mustard5: and then?
[04:27] <ishit> ceilingfish: jus apt-get it
[04:27] <mustard5> coolboy, what happens?
[04:27] <coolboy> mustard5: nothing
[04:27] <LNova> :(
[04:28] <pedrog> ishit - rhythmbox will play inet radio
[04:28] <F43RY> Please, Could someone suggest me an affeicient and simple assembly debugger under Ubuntu?
[04:28] <mustard5> coolboy, strange...try running it from the command line with    sh runLime.sh
[04:28] <ceilingfish> ishit, package is not available. I only have breezy installed and nowt extra in sources.list but universe
[04:28] <xface> hello
[04:29] <xface> i just downlaod a tr.bz2 package
[04:29] <xface> can you please tell em where should i extarct it?
[04:29] <ishit> pedrog: its not workin there, but i managed to get it workin on xmms. neways cud u tel me how to do it in rhythmbox
[04:29] <dennis_> can someone help me    i want to install programms but i cant find them in linux version    can make exe files runing on my linux computer or not?
[04:29] <F43RY> I've nasm for compiling but I need a debugger
[04:29] <coolboy> mustard5 unknown ile
[04:29] <_jason> dennis_: what program?
[04:29] <coolboy> mustard5: file*
[04:29] <ishit> ceilingfish: jus google for it or gimme ur email address ill mail u my sources.list
[04:29] <mustard5> coolboy, cd ~/home/LimeWire
[04:29] <dennis_> opera for example
[04:30] <mustard5> coolboy, forget that
[04:30] <dennis_> or games
[04:30] <pedrog> ishit - ctrl-i
[04:30] <mustard5> coolboy, cd ~/LimeWire
[04:30] <pedrog> ishit - then the url
[04:30] <e> opera.com. will give you a linux version
[04:30] <mustard5> coolboy, then   sh runLime.sh
[04:30] <dennis_> ohh cool thank you
[04:30] <ceilingfish> OK ishit will do. Just let me figure out how to use irc enough to PM you. :D
[04:30] <xface> can someone answe me please?
[04:30] <LNova> Does anyone know why i can't access admin programs, even though i'm an admin
[04:30] <LNova> ?
[04:30] <coolboy> mustard5: nope won't cd
[04:30] <idefix_> I think VI is the best
[04:30] <e> xface, u may extract it where YOU want.
[04:31] <e> its your pc.
[04:31] <idefix_> all other editors suck
[04:31] <A-jay> hello everyone
[04:31] <mustard5> coolboy, won't cd?
[04:31] <xface> e: well yes but sint there a fixed direrctory in linux that i must extract tars that i downlaod?
[04:31] <xface> i just put hrme anywhere i like?
[04:31] <coolboy> mustard5: nope
[04:31] <mustard5> coolboy, does the LimeWire directory exist in your $HOME?
[04:32] <trym> does anyone have an UML editor that supports UML 2 to recommend?
[04:32] <mustard5> coolboy, thats a tilda  '~'
[04:32] <eugman> E: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:32] <eugman> E: mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:32] <eugman> E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:32] <LNova> Does anyone know why i can't access admin programs, even though i'm an admin
[04:32] <coolboy> mustard5: how do I type it
[04:32] <pedrog> lnova:  little more info?
[04:32] <_jeff> hey guys
[04:32] <idefix_> under linux you can use cursors to move in VI, you can't do that under unix, can you?
[04:32] <mustard5> coolboy, its on the top left of the keyboard..shifted usually
[04:33] <eugman> I am trying to reinstall on stuff synaptic doesn't remember installing so I can get updates
[04:33] <mustard5> coolboy, under the escape key
[04:33] <coolboy> mustard5: i have azerty
[04:33] <eastgroup> can i make a host with Dynamic Ip ?
[04:33] <LNova> I click on something in System=>admin, but it doesn't load
[04:33] <LNova> for instance synaptic
[04:33] <mustard5> coolboy, cd /home/yourusername/LimeWire
[04:34] <pedrog> lnova - should come up and ask for a password - that doesn't happen?
[04:34] <ceilingfish> Aha! Does anyone else have flash plugins installed in a mozilla browser, cos the plugin has been causing it to crash loads on my set up.
[04:34] <eugman> eastgroup yes there is a way
[04:34] <coolboy> mustard5: nope won't do it
[04:34] <eugman> you want to make your computer a webserver or something right?
[04:34] <LNova> no, it doesn't come up with anything
[04:34] <mustard5> coolboy, what error message?
[04:34] <pedrog> try typing sudo synaptic in a terminal?
[04:34] <coolboy> mustard5: unknown file or folder
[04:34] <mustard5> coolboy, did you substitute your username?
[04:34] <mustard5> coolboy, cd /home/yourusername/LimeWire
[04:34] <eastgroup> eugman , Could u tell me how , i have a router !
[04:34] <LNova> i have
[04:35] <coolboy> mustard5: i did
[04:35] <pedrog> it works?
[04:35] <xface> i downaloaded baord for chess but i dotn knwo hwo to rtun it. can one help please?
[04:35] <coolboy> mustard: LimeWire is on my desktop
[04:35] <mustard5> coolboy, oh~
[04:35] <LNova> i got "paul adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip ideo plugdev ipadmin scanner admin"
[04:35] <eastgroup> eugman ,yes to make a server with No-ip or any thing like it ..
[04:35] <mustard5> coolboy, well it normally installs to your home directory
[04:35] <F43RY> Can someone suggest me a debugger to use with assembler?
[04:35] <mustard5> coolboy, ok well cd to it on your Desktop then
[04:35] <coolboy> mustard5: i didn't install
[04:36] <LNova> oh, sorry. wrong thing
[04:36] <mustard5> coolboy, hehehe
[04:36] <LNova> yeah i have tried that
[04:36] <e> eastgr. u want to have a box on the net without an IP adress?
[04:36] <mustard5> coolboy, well that would be the problem then :)
[04:36] <eugman> Ok so you know about no-ip? So what part do you need.
[04:36] <LNova> but it comes up with saying something about users
[04:36] <coolboy> mustard5: how do I install?
[04:36] <lysis> my Xorg process is using 210MB of memory.   everything is moving super slow
[04:36] <mustard5> coolboy, one second..I'll have a read
[04:36] <lysis> is there a way i can fix this problem?    i know i can ctrl alt backspace and get back in . . .
[04:36] <mustard5> !limewire
[04:36] <ubotu> [limewire]  first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[04:36] <eastgroup> how can i config it with router , the router takes the Dynamic ip
[04:36] <lysis> but i don't want it to do this at all. =)
[04:37] <coolboy> mustard5: k
[04:37] <xface> ** no suitable C++ compiler found.
[04:37] <eastgroup> how i can set it to a computer ip ?
[04:37] <mustard5> coolboy, it says to unpack it
[04:37] <xface> now how do i weill compile things?
[04:37] <lysis> xface, you need build-essential
[04:37] <pedrog> lnova - sounds like it thinks you don't have admin priveleges - is your username in the adm group?
[04:37] <lysis> !build-essential
[04:37] <ubotu> well, build-essential is a meta package for software building see !gcc for more info
[04:37] <lysis> !gcc
[04:37] <ubotu> it has been said that gcc is the GNU project C and C++ compiler.  From the command-line, type "man gcc" for a complete manual on gcc.  You can install gcc with 'sudo apt-get install build-essential'
[04:37] <xface> whats build-essential?
[04:37] <eugman> hmm I dunno. It "just works" for my computer despite being behind a router.
[04:38] <mustard5> coolboy, apparently it unpacked to your desktop?
[04:38] <deefzi> how could i get into nautilus' menus enqueue-option for mp3:s? does xmms even support that?
[04:38] <eastgroup> could not config it with router  , what i have to do my router is e-com
[04:38] <lysis> xface, it's the essentials to build and compile programs. =)
[04:38] <KSean> http://doc.gwos.org/index.php/EasyAmsn
[04:38] <KSean> Cool lol.
[04:38] <LNova> yeah
[04:38] <coolboy> yeah
[04:38] <frogzoo> xface, it's like a package that has all the essential tools for building from source
[04:38] <LNova> "paul adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip ideo plugdev ipadmin scanner admin"
[04:38] <e> eastgr. sounds like you have a router that gets a dynamic IP from ISP and that you want to have a server in the back on static?? you need to use NAT on your router
[04:38] <coolboy> mustard5: yeah
[04:38] <xface> does compile and build is the same thing?
[04:38] <jackson> how do I use .patch files?
[04:38] <coolboy> mustard5: what cmd is it to get to desktop
[04:38] <lysis> xface, pretty much.
[04:39] <jtrask> whee for all the fun learning of im not using windows any more
[04:39] <mustard5> coolboy, cd /home/yourusername/Desktop/
[04:39] <frogzoo> jackson, usually just 'patch < xxx.patch'
[04:39] <lysis> xface, in order to do the ./configure       make              make install               you'll need build-essential            what are you building anyway?  it might be in apt . . .
[04:39] <jtrask> this machine's going to be doubling as a server and i need to set it so that when screensaver / monitor power save / etc. go on, i dont drop my connection.
[04:39] <lysis> my Xorg process is using 210MB of memory.   everything is moving super slow.   can this be fixed permanently?
[04:39] <xface> iam tryign to build the eboard interface for chess
[04:39] <jackson> frogzoo: from the source folder? or do I need to patch a specific file?
[04:39] <eugman> Anyone know how I can explain to my computer that mysql is already configured?
[04:40] <xface> i downlaod it it as eboard.tar.bz2
[04:40] <frogzoo> jackson, yes, from the root dir
[04:40] <lysis> xface, have you looked at the chess games in the repositories?
[04:40] <jackson> thanks frogzoo
[04:40] <xface> no i just installed ubuntu
[04:40] <lysis> xface, open up synaptic;   System, Administration, Synaptic           type in your password and look at the games that are in there
[04:41] <coolboy> mustard5: You need to upgrade to JRE 1.4.x or newer from http://www.java.com
[04:41] <lysis> everything you need for the most part is in synaptic
[04:41] <eugman> You will need to alter your list of repositories xface
[04:41] <eastgroup> is this means i can't use the dynamic ip for hosting ?
[04:41] <mustard5> coolboy, what version did you download?
[04:41] <lysis> you don't need to do anything but check the box and click apply! =)
[04:41] <coolboy> mustard5: the latest
[04:41] <mustard5> coolboy, what was the package called?
[04:41] <lysis> xface, my recommendation would be to enable your extra repositories though
[04:41] <eugman> It means I don't know enough to help you east.
[04:41] <xface> Synaptic is a frontend for Debians well implemented apt-get?
[04:41] <lysis> ubotu tell xface about multiverse
[04:41] <e> eastgr. u dont want to use dyn for hosting as far as i know.. u d want a static one.
[04:41] <lysis> xface, correct
[04:41] <eugman> yes
[04:41] <LNova> pedrock, isthat ok, I cant open users as well.
[04:42] <coolboy> mustard5: jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[04:42] <frogzoo> eastgroup, you can't use a dynamic IP without a dynamic DNS server - but it might still be possible
[04:42] <eugman> frogzoo thats not his problem
[04:42] <eugman> he can use no-ip but the router is his problem
[04:42] <xface> guys whats univere and multiverse?
[04:42] <LNova> but according to"sudo usermod -G admin paul" i get ""paul adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip ideo plugdev ipadmin scanner admin"
[04:42] <pedrog> lnova - let me check my etc
[04:42] <mustard5> coolboy, hmmm..
[04:42] <e> what do you mean no-ip??
[04:42] <xface> bash: ./make:      
[04:42] <lysis> xface, they've got extra programs.  read the links ubotu sent you
[04:42] <frogzoo> eugman, ah..
[04:42] <mustard5> coolboy, you get any error messages when installing java?
[04:42] <chmod775> !dapper
[04:42] <ubotu> [dapper]  The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[04:42] <eugman> I have a dynamic ip but noip let's me use eugene.redirectme.net to find my computer
[04:43] <coolboy> mustard5: nope did it perfectly
[04:43] <jtrask> any idea how to make sure my networking still runs while the screensaver's up? i just came back and found gaim disconnected
[04:43] <mustard5> coolboy, its a bit of a mystery then
[04:43] <eugman> Now despite being behind a router it still works for me fine but his router is a troublemaker
[04:43] <eugman> www.no-ip.com
[04:43] <e> eugman, have you looked into the servives of dyndns??
[04:43] <p0mppu> hello!
[04:43] <mustard5> coolboy, you didnt install blackdown did you?
[04:43] <kasemodz> hi, i have one problem when I'm doing dmesg. Whenever I type it i always get this bandwidth stuff. Here is a sample. Does anyone what could be causing this and how to fix it?-127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ondemand
[04:43] <kasemodz> # The following lines are desirable for IPv6 capable hosts
[04:43] <kasemodz> ::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
[04:43] <kasemodz> fe00::0 ip6-localnet
[04:43] <kasemodz> ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
[04:43] <kasemodz> ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
[04:43] <kasemodz> ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
[04:43] <kasemodz> ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
[04:43] <kasemodz> woups sorry
[04:43] <kasemodz> not those
[04:43] <eugman> E is that of the cost variety?
[04:44] <kasemodz> [4690167.719000]  BANDWIDTH_OUT:IN= OUT=eth0 SRC=192.168.15.101 DST=192.168.15.103 LEN=76 TOS=0x00 PREC=0x00 TTL=64 ID=28942 DF PROTO=TCP SPT=5900 DPT=1948 WINDOW=5840 RES=0x00 ACK PSH URGP=0
[04:44] <e> its free
[04:44] <eugman> !pastebin
[04:44] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:44] <pedrog> lnova - can you read /etc/sudoers?
[04:44] <coolboy> mustard5: i don't think so
[04:44] <mustard5> paste in pastebin pleae kasemodz
[04:44] <e> for the basics
[04:44] <p0mppu> is there a newer version of OpenOffice2 for ubuntu than 1.9.129-0.1ubuntu4 ?
[04:44] <p0mppu> or how can it be updated
[04:44] <p0mppu> that version is buggy :/
[04:44] <LNova> pedrock, where's that?
[04:44] <goookie> my videos are washed with xine as a backend...anyone knows how to solve this?
[04:44] <LNova> *pedrog
[04:44] <p0mppu> crashes often..I'd like to get 2.1
[04:44] <lysis> p0mppu, there is.
[04:44] <lysis> !easysource
[04:44] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[04:44] <p0mppu> lysis, where is "there" =
[04:45] <p0mppu> thanks
[04:45] <lysis> p0mppu, go to the custom sources.list creator, it has one for the official 2.0 release.
[04:45] <pedrog> lnova - try cat /etc/sudoers
[04:45] <mustard5> coolboy, try this     sudo apt-get remove --purge  j2re1.4
[04:45] <kasemodz> goookie if u wanna make a change install videolan its the most versatile player- plays any video format literally
[04:45] <knoppix__> hi
[04:45] <eugman> e.Now how is that different from no-ip? I have a program that tells them when my ip changes and they make it so anyone going to eugene.redirectmen.net goes to my ip
[04:45] <mustard5> coolboy, that should uninstall blackdown if its there
[04:45] <pedrog> lnova: last line should basically say admin group can doin anything
[04:45] <lysis> hi knoppix__
[04:45] <xface> can someone pelase tell me how ic an turn ubuntu top Enhfliash again isntead of greek?
[04:45] <e> not different. didnt say that.
[04:45] <goookie> yeah, but umm i dont kinda like the UI. I'm trying gxine
[04:45] <eastgroup> so , if i can't use a dynamic ip for hosting what the use of no-ip or other DNS website to offer ?
[04:45] <e> i wasnt aware of no=ip
[04:45] <knoppix__> Right, I need to edit grub's menu.lst set up a dual boot, but it's read only
[04:46] <eugman> xface in the login screen you should be able to change langauage settings
[04:46] <mustard5> coolboy, does it say not installed when you remove it?
[04:46] <coolboy> mustard5: he didn't find ot
[04:46] <kasemodz> ah, sorry goookie never used xine so can't help you
[04:46] <knoppix__> All I need to do is put a hash in front of hiddenmenu
[04:46] <mustard5> coolboy, hmmm...
[04:46] <eugman> ah k
[04:46] <kasemodz> try posting on the ubuntu forums
[04:46] <kasemodz> except its down right now
[04:46] <eastgroup> i'm behind a router !!
[04:46] <goookie> kasemodz: how bout totem-xine?
[04:46] <mustard5> coolboy, well you've installed java..the latest version...and its complaining of not having the latest ...thats just wierd :)
[04:46] <kasemodz> never used that as well im a huge vlc fan
[04:46] <lysis> knoppix__, did you try to edit via the command          sudo gedit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[04:47] <goookie> ive been trying to get dvd playback with gstreamer. installed every plugins, but doesnt seem to work
[04:47] <eugman> Anyone here know how to trick synaptic into thinking I have a certian package configured?
[04:47] <e> eastgrp. then i think you need to set up your router with IP forwarding for the service you want to host
[04:47] <LNova> ok pedrog, but i'm gonna have to boot up my ubuntu partition, so i'll be gone for a bit
[04:47] <coolboy> mustard5: let's just give up, i'll get my songs from my windows partition and then i'll do it thru memory stick
[04:47] <lysis> knoppix__, sudo is ubuntu's equivalent of su.   it allows for root priviledge.   the menu.lst for grub is owned by root.
[04:47] <e> what service you want to host behind the router??
[04:47] <kasemodz> yeah has anyone experienced a problem with bandwidth stuff on dmesg. whenever i type dmesg i get a huge list of bandwidth in/out with ip address and mac address and stuff
[04:47] <pedrog> lnova ok
[04:47] <knoppix__> lysis : I'm currently running knoppix which doesn't seem to have gedit. I can't actually boot my Ubuntu at the moment
[04:47] <mustard5> coolboy, did you do this part? fakeroot make-jpkg jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[04:47] <kasemodz> goookie i think you a re missing a plugin
[04:48] <coolboy> mustard5: ,o
[04:48] <lysis> knoppix__, try nano instead of gedit friend.
[04:48] <knoppix__> nano eh?
[04:48] <lysis> yes.  it's text based editor, where gedit is a program within gnome.
[04:48] <Limulus> eugman: why do you need to do that? (can't you install the package and then reinstall it later?)
[04:48] <knoppix__> nope...doesn't seem to like that either
[04:48] <lysis> pico?
[04:48] <kasemodz> yeah knoppix just nano -w /yourfilelocation
[04:48] <xface> ok langiage chanegs to USA
[04:49] <mustard5> coolboy, ok sorry to have led you down the wrong path at the start :)
[04:49] <mustard5> coolboy, that made the whole thing twice as long :D
[04:49] <idefix_> you should be able to open two files with VI, no?
[04:49] <eugman> Limulus I had to reinstall base ubuntu to fix grub. Now synaptic thinks nothing had been install practically
[04:49] <goookie> kasemodz i've read this and installed what is says: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats but still no dice. i have xine libs installed so totem switch to use those instead, but the vid is washed out.
[04:49] <lysis> knoppix__, did you try pico?
[04:49] <eugman> And I get this problem :
[04:49] <eugman> E: postfix: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1
[04:49] <idefix_> any VI-techies here?
[04:49] <coolboy> mustard5: np thx for your time
[04:49] <eugman> E: mailx: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:49] <eugman> E: mysql-server: dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
[04:49] <xface> may i have th lionk for adddign respositories please?
[04:49] <knoppix__> command not found, againt
[04:49] <lysis> ugh . . .
[04:49] <mustard5> coolboy, have fun :)
[04:49] <knoppix__> this is a knoppix boot-from-CD, its pretty rudimentaru
[04:49] <lysis> there is a #knoppix on this server.  maybe join there and see what they recommend?
[04:50] <coolboy> mustard5: do you know anything about how to make my 5.1 speaker setup work in ubuntu?
[04:50] <knoppix__> ok, I'll try their
[04:50] <lysis> i'm unfamiliar with what knoppix includes and doesn't include unfortunately
[04:50] <pedrog> idefix_ know a bit about vi
[04:50] <irvin> !repo
[04:50] <ubotu> irvin: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[04:50] <xface> What is a respository anyways?
[04:50] <mustard5> coolboy, install alsamixer through synaptic or command line...and then run the command alsamixer in terminal
[04:50] <xface> a server containign packages?
[04:50] <irvin> !repositories
[04:50] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:50] <lysis> xface, a repository is a place that has a bunch of programs.
[04:50] <lysis> xface, precisely
[04:50] <mustard5> coolboy, that should give you some control over it
[04:50] <idefix_> pedrog can you open two files in VI?
[04:50] <lysis> irvin, i already had ubotu tell him about that.
[04:50] <coolboy> mustard5 thx
[04:51] <xface> and why do i need to soem extar respositories?
[04:51] <Limulus> eugman: how did you 'reinstall base ubuntu'?
[04:51] <mustard5> !repos
[04:51] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[04:51] <lysis> xface, for extra programs and functionality
[04:51] <xface> doesne each oe of them has the sqme packages?
[04:51] <mustard5> woops
[04:51] <pedrog> idefix - you running gvim or vim?  in a single window you cat do an :sp
[04:51] <lysis> xface, absolutely NOT.
[04:51] <pedrog> idefix: then :o a new file
[04:51] <lysis> xface, that would be pointless to have the same programs on different servers.
[04:51] <idefix_> pedrog just vi
[04:51] <eugman> I reinstall without reformating and leaving existing file structure instact.
[04:51] <idefix_> pedrog should I have typed vim instead? or even gvim?
[04:51] <e> i cant get sound going on my pc. i run alsamixer and it says intel HDA on top left but still get no sounds. any ideas??
[04:51] <pedrog> idefix: sp splits the screen then you can open tow files
[04:52] <xface> that would eb called mirroring
[04:52] <lysis> xface, there might be repeats, but you'd never know it.    the multiverse and universe add so many more programs, and codecs for video / audio players.     there is a repository just for the opera browser, repository for openoffice 2.0
[04:52] <pedrog> idefix: vi is usually vim - just open in the terminal - gvim pops a new window
[04:52] <lysis> ubotu tell xface about easysource
[04:52] <chmod775> !limewire
[04:52] <ubotu> methinks limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[04:52] <coolboy> mustard5 where should i open it after installing
[04:52] <Unity> hey this is sort of a really vague question but what does ubuntu have that debian doesn't?
[04:52] <lysis> xface, i used easysource to setup my sources list.   it took some time to get all the keys registered, but it's worth it.  i've now got almost any program in my sources!!
[04:53] <mustard5> coolboy, in terminal type alsamixer
[04:53] <pedrog> idefix_ not sure if gvim is installed by default - called something like vim-x11 in synaptic
[04:53] <coolboy> mustard5: thx
[04:53] <xface> i see
[04:53] <idefix_> pedrog how do I switch to the other window inside vi?
[04:53] <mustard5> coolboy, use the arrow keys to move across the volume settings
[04:53] <xface> for exampel waht repsoitory i must use if i want to see chess programs?
[04:53] <eugman> Unity: 6 month update cycle, seperate repository, people colored background
[04:53] <Alinux> ubuntuforums.org? where is a problem? I can't access it.
[04:53] <lysis> xface, it's best to install all of your programs via apt or synaptic BECAUSE ubuntu can auto update when new programs come out
[04:54] <eugman> alinux look way up
[04:54] <eugman> But hey I don't know much unity
[04:54] <lysis> xface, that's the beauty of it; you don't have to search different repositories.  go to the link for the easysources like i said earlier, setup your sources and open synaptic
[04:54] <Alinux> eugman, thank you!:D
[04:54] <idefix_> pedrog!!
[04:54] <Unity> eugman: but from what i hear, the debian repos are larger and more frequently updated?
[04:54] <lysis> xface, EVERYTHING is in synaptic.  just search for "chess" and all the programs with chess in the name will come up.
[04:54] <xface> lysis, ubunbtu automaticxall updates every program without users intevention?
[04:54] <Alinux> do you know from where could I donwload the leatest Automatix ?
[04:55] <lysis> xface, no, it lets you know with a bubble in the corner.  then you click on the update button and can select which programs to update
[04:55] <bina> hi, ive installed the package that firefox tells me to install to get JRE going in it, and ive also tried the package in one of the repos but I still cant get any java applets to work.  Is there something else I need to do after installing the packages?
[04:55] <pedrog> idefix_ ctrl-w w
[04:55] <lysis> xface, but if you install them yoruself using ./configure then ubuntu would never know to update OR that you have it installed even.
[04:55] <eugman> They are much larger but a alot of those packages you don't really need. I know they have an unstable repo but I am new to linux so I dunno
[04:55] <_jason> bina: what packages did you install
[04:55] <rabbit> is this all you need to do to add a splashimage to grub?  add this to menu.lst?  splashimage /boot/grub/images/splash.xpm.gz   ??
[04:56] <coolboy> is there a itunes for linux?
[04:56] <xface> so the packages are soemthign like setup fiules we suedd to work in WinXP ?
[04:56] <lysis> coolboy, ubuntu comes with Rhythmbox installed.  i use it.
[04:56] <eugman> coolboy:depends
[04:56] <sdkfmlsmdf> anyone know how to fint $NAUTILUS_SCRIPT_CURRENT_URI in bash? it doesnt exist when i try running scripts from nautilus
[04:56] <xface> ans synaptioc is soemthing like add/remove?
[04:56] <lysis> xface, i don't know what you mean?
[04:56] <eugman> do you want to buy music or load music,coolboy.
[04:56] <lysis> xface, i guess you could look at it that way.
[04:56] <coolboy> eugman: load music
[04:56] <bina> _jason: j2re1.4-mozilla-plugin and the one off the sun site (an executable caleld jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin)
[04:56] <lysis> coolboy, use rhythmbox :)
[04:56] <eugman> Gtkpod should work fine then
[04:57] <Alinux> do you know... from where could I donwload the leatest Automatix ?
[04:57] <bina> _jason: i'm not using the ubuntu firefox i dont think,  I followed the instructions in the wiki on upgrading to 1.5
[04:57] <eugman> but there are other programs too. now do you have drm encrypted music?
[04:57] <GADO> can you tell me please the hungarian channel
[04:57] <GADO> ?
[04:57] <eugman> er protected, not encrypted,
[04:57] <jd86> Is there any documentation (i scanned wiki.. didn't find anything) on using ubuntu with nfs root? (there was one thing but not anything to instruct you how to do it with ubuntu. i've done it with gentoo systems not much experiance with ubuntu however)
[04:57] <eastgroup> the fourms is down !
[04:57] <xface>       gpg --keyserver subkeys.pgp.net --recv KEY
[04:57] <xface>       gpg --export --armor KEY | sudo apt-key add -
[04:57] <lysis> eugman, i don't mess with drm . . .         that stuff is messy
[04:57] <xface> thesre too command in console and then iam ready?
[04:57] <lysis> xface,    follow the directions.
[04:58] <lysis> it explicity says to do sudo apt-get update
[04:58] <GADO> gnomefreak: hello
[04:58] <lysis> and then it also explicity says to do those two commands where KEY is the key in the list of the server that requires it.
[04:58] <lysis> xface, i don't know any better way to explain it . . .
[04:58] <GADO> gnomefreak: I am C-O-L-T
[04:58] <LiNova> pedrog?
[04:58] <GADO> gnomefreak: can you give me please the hungarian channel name
[04:59] <xface> well
[04:59] <pedrog> linova - yeup
[04:59] <GADO> gnomefreak: are you around?
[04:59] <xface> the webpage noe show em a file
[04:59] <xface> but i dont knwo what to do with it
[04:59] <lysis> xface, it tells you exactly what to do.  did you read?
[04:59] <eugman> gado what is the two letter character normally used to represent hungarian?
[04:59] <_jason> bina: okay, let's gather some info since you didn't follow the wiki for java.  pastebin the output from the following: 'locate libjavaplugin', 'ls -l /opt/firefox/plugins/*java*'
[04:59] <Paragraph> Anyone know where i can get a compatability chart for linksys wireless adapters?
[04:59] <eugman> cause if it's hu you can do this:
[04:59] <eugman> !hu
[04:59] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, eugman
[04:59] <GADO> eugman: hu
[04:59] <xface> i read so to answer what system i have
[04:59] <eugman> hmm
[05:00] <xface> an i hi show mw sources
[05:00] <lysis> xface, you need to paste that into your sources.list
[05:00] <eugman> see it works for other langauages
[05:00] <eugman> !en
[05:00] <ubotu> en is, like, Queen's English Speakers; Essex inhabitants who may all go to #ubuntu-uk - anyone from the Island of Great Britain is also welcome.
[05:00] <lysis> sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list   and paste that overtop of what is in there.
[05:00] <eugman> I dunno
[05:00] <pedrog> idefix_ did you figure that out?
[05:01] <FLSimpsonKPT> I have a problem with ubuntu
[05:01] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, what is the problem?
[05:01] <xface> lysis, can i just use a comamnd to search for chess apps in all repositories?
[05:01] <LiNova> pedrog: when i typed in what you told me, I got "Permission denied"
[05:01] <scanwinder_> i know this isnt ubuntu-related but, someone else is using my IRC nickname which i have registered, what should i do?
[05:01] <FLSimpsonKPT> It will not boot
[05:01] <GADO> eugman: ????
[05:01] <lysis> xface, if you want to do it in the command line (not recommended)    then type 'sudo apt-cache search <what you want to find>'
[05:01] <pedrog> linova - would you try sudo cat /etc/suders
[05:01] <GADO> eugman: idea
[05:02] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, can you be more specific?   why won't it?
[05:02] <FLSimpsonKPT> i dont know
[05:02] <LiNova> with the space?
[05:02] <rabbit> on the Grub HowTo page, it says "Grub loads the image from the disk upon boot; it is not stored in the MBR. If you use a symlink, you will not have to edit menu.lst and reinstall grub to change the image, you just have to change the symlink."   does this mean that for the first time, you have to reinstall grub after you add the splashimage line??
[05:02] <eugman> yes?
[05:02] <pedrog> linova - si
[05:02] <lysis> scanwinder_, type '/msg nickserv ghost <your username> <that password>
[05:02] <LiNova> ok
[05:02] <LiNova> back soon
[05:02] <scanwinder_> lysis: ok thanks
[05:03] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, well we can't help you if you can't tell us what's wrong. =)               is it giving you an error?  where is it stopping?   what do you see?  anything?
[05:03] <FLSimpsonKPT> i just set up ubuntu on my other computer here and i get a blank screen with a _
[05:03] <xface> why you dont recommend it?
[05:03] <FLSimpsonKPT> and its not moving
[05:03] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, did the grub bootloader get installed?
[05:03] <FLSimpsonKPT> i think so
[05:03] <prem> hi all
[05:03] <FLSimpsonKPT> this is my first time loading ubuntu
[05:03] <prem> any body has success with sun studio 11 on amd64
[05:03] <lysis> did you see a list of programs to allow you to choose what to boot to?
[05:03] <bina> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7484 that right?
[05:03] <FLSimpsonKPT> no
[05:04] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, sounds like it didn't install properly.
[05:04] <FLSimpsonKPT> oh
[05:04] <xface> damn i get confused
[05:04] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, did you verify data when you burned the disc?
[05:04] <FLSimpsonKPT> i dont think i did
[05:04] <FLSimpsonKPT> oops
[05:04] <scanwinder_> lysis: i tried what you said and it says password incorrect when it is not, any idea what i should do?
[05:05] <lysis> scanwinder_, i unfortunately do not have any recommendations.  are you sure you registered the name on THIS server?
[05:05] <mustard5> scanwinder_, did leave out your username?
[05:05] <lysis> scanwinder_, try /msg nickserv recover <name> <pass>
[05:05] <FLSimpsonKPT> ok so what file do you think im missing?
[05:05] <mustard5> scanwinder_, I don't think username is part of the entry is it?
[05:05] <idefix_> pudrog?
[05:05] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, wouldn't have the slightest idea
[05:05] <scanwinder_> lysis: yes, ive been logging in with it on this server every day for ages
[05:05] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, it could be a million
[05:05] <_jason> bina: okay, now do 'sudo update-alternatives --config java' and ensure that j2re1.5-sun is chosen
[05:05] <FLSimpsonKPT> :-o
[05:05] <mustard5> scanwinder_, never mind..
[05:06] <mustard5> scanwinder_, I see whats your doing now :)
[05:06] <FLSimpsonKPT> give me a min
[05:06] <idefix_> pedrog, what's with the blue ^M's behind almost all the lines (except the ones I edit)?
[05:06] <lysis> scanwinder_, did the recover command i gave you work?
[05:06] <selinium> scanwinder_, Caps lock?
[05:06] <scanwinder_> lysis: no, stills says incorrect password
[05:07] <scanwinder_> selinium: nop, capslock is off like usual
[05:07] <FLSimpsonKPT> what file would the boot loader be in?
[05:07] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, /etc/grub
[05:07] <scanwinder_> is there an admin for freenode?
[05:07] <lysis> scanwinder_, there's probably hundreds. :)
[05:07] <FLSimpsonKPT> ah crap
[05:07] <scanwinder_> how do i find one?
[05:07] <bina> _jason: yup.  should it work now?
[05:07] <selinium> #freenode
[05:07] <selinium> scanwinder_, ^^
[05:07] <ubuntu> re
[05:08] <_jason> bina: not yet, did you install firefox to /opt/firefox?
[05:08] <pedrog> idefix_ must be a windows text file
[05:08] <FLSimpsonKPT> so now what do i do
[05:08] <lysis> FLSimpsonKPT, re-burn the disc, verify data, re-install.
[05:08] <FLSimpsonKPT> ok
[05:08] <FLSimpsonKPT> thanks
[05:08] <bina> _jason: whereis firefox outputs firefox: /usr/bin/firefox.ubuntu /usr/bin/firefox /usr/bin/X11/firefox.ubuntu /usr/bin/X11/firefox /usr/share/man/man1/firefox.1.gz
[05:08] <FLSimpsonKPT> i be in here for the duration
[05:08] <lysis> ok
[05:09] <FLSimpsonKPT> ill let you know if anything goes wrong
[05:09] <kengo> hi,does anybody know the name of a meta package for developers and package maintainers, it depends on thinks like gcc automake etc ?
[05:09] <bina> _jason: so thats /usr/bin/firefox right?
[05:09] <_jason> bina: try 'file /opt/firefox/firefox' and see if it gives you an error
[05:09] <scanwinder_> ah great, messages wont send in #freenode........why would that be? im in the channel....can type a message but it wont send
[05:09] <owner> I need help with my resolution. reconfiguring Xserver doesn't help.
[05:10] <pedrog> idefix_ windows puts in an extra symbol at the end of a line
[05:10] <bina> _jason: /opt/firefox/firefox: Bourne shell script text executable
[05:10] <pixelfairy> ubotu: how do you make a livecd?
[05:10] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, pixelfairy
[05:10] <scanwinder_> is there any way to find out what channels the person who's using my name is in?
[05:11] <idefix_> pedrog but if I edit it doesn't do so at the new lines but it doesn't seem to matter?? what is this nonsensical stuff all about?
[05:11] <pixelfairy> oh ok, guess i better get some geese
[05:11] <owner> who can help me change my resolution without the Xserver?
[05:11] <pixelfairy> owner: what are you trying to do?
[05:11] <rabbit> is this right?   splashimage=(hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz
[05:11] <KoruptidPryde> gtk themes need to come with a warning   :|
[05:11] <_jason> bina: good, now do this: 'readlink -f /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin.so'
[05:11] <owner> pixelfairy: trying to change my screen resolution from 600 X 480 into 1120 X something.. =/
[05:12] <FLSimpsonKPT> what do you spose would be better to burn it with
[05:12] <FLSimpsonKPT> nero
[05:12] <lysis> pixelfairy, you can download ubuntu's livecd from www.ubuntu.com
[05:12] <rabbit> I've also seen splashimage (hd0,4)/grub/splash.xpm.gz   ..    should there be an '='   sign ????
[05:12] <FLSimpsonKPT> or something else
[05:12] <pixelfairy> lysis: i want to make a custom one
[05:12] <lysis> owner, you'll need to edit a configuration file
[05:12] <lysis> pixelfairy, good luck! lol =)
[05:12] <LiNova> pedrog?
[05:12] <bina> _jason: yup, it didnt output anything
[05:12] <owner> lysis: how do I do that? the Xserver Configuration?
[05:12] <pixelfairy> i was hoping it would be easier than remastering knoppix
[05:12] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: compare it to the standard of the rest of the file and follow the standard
[05:12] <pixelfairy> owner: /usr/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <pixelfairy> oops
[05:13] <bina> _jason: hopefully a good sign :)
[05:13] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: commands in grub all stick to the same standard
[05:13] <pixelfairy> owner: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:13] <_jason> bina: 'readlink -f /etc/alternatives/firefox-javaplugin.so'
[05:13] <lysis> pixelfairy, isn't there a utility program for that?
[05:13] <pixelfairy> owner: man xorg.conf
[05:13] <schmic> owner: is this a headless system?
[05:13] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde: I'm not sure..
[05:13] <owner> pixelfairy: all of them?
[05:13] <pixelfairy> lysis: thats what i was asking, google and searching ubuntulinux.org only showed me the default one
[05:13] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:   I have a default install
[05:13] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: have you written the file entirely from scratch?
[05:13] <pixelfairy> owner: all of what?
[05:14] <pixelfairy> thats only one file
[05:14] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:   I haven't touched it at all
[05:14] <owner> so all together then?
[05:14] <pixelfairy> owner, step one, ctrl+atl+F1
[05:14] <pixelfairy> if you havent already
[05:14] <pixelfairy> log in, and become root however your used to
[05:14] <bina> _jason: k, done that.  I dont need sudo before any of these do i?
[05:14] <pixelfairy> sudo -s works, but be carefull
[05:14] <idefix_> pedrog? you still there?
[05:14] <LiNova> can ayone help with a little problem i'm having?
[05:14] <KSean> Hey, I just installed EasyAMSN, how do I load it?
[05:14] <_jason> bina: nope, these aren't returning anything?
[05:14] <lysis> LiNova, what's up?
[05:14] <pixelfairy> owner: then /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[05:14] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: okay, then look at the existing commands that are in the file.... such as "root hd(0,0)" and then use your head as to what other commands should look like
[05:14] <_jason> bina: did you remove firefox1.07?
[05:15] <pixelfairy> owner: actualy, forget all that
[05:15] <misiek> i have a problem with webcam. when i run the test in multimedia selector, the whole system freezes, even ctrl+alt+f# is not resopnding.
[05:15] <LiNova> I cannot use any of the programs in the admin menu
[05:15] <pixelfairy> i just remembered an easier way
[05:15] <bina> _jason: no, just puts me back to the prompt
[05:15] <KSean> Hey, I just installed easymsn and ran the script, now how do I load amsn?
[05:15] <pixelfairy> edit xorg.conf as root
[05:15] <lysis> is there a way to set the keyboard shorcuts back to DEFAULT??
[05:15] <KSean> easyamsn*
[05:15] <LiNova> and i'm the only user
[05:15] <bina> _jason: I can't remember, I followed the wikis instructions, so if it told me to I most prob did
[05:15] <pixelfairy> then in another window you can test it by saying "startx -- :1"
[05:15] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  there's also groot=(hd0,6)
[05:16] <pixelfairy> and when you kill that x session, it will go back to the first one
[05:16] <ubuntugeek> ubuntuforums are back up now..
[05:16] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: odd, that shouldn't work at all
[05:16] <_jason> bina: okay, we'll just link it directly: 'sudo ln -s /usr/lib/j2re1.5-sun/plugin/i386/ns7/libjavaplugin_oji.so /opt/firefox/plugins/libjavaplugin_oji.so'
[05:16] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  I didn't do it
[05:16] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  it was there
[05:16] <Milk> good morning
[05:16] <Seveas> ubuntugeek, great! Did you have problems or was it maintenance?
[05:16] <pixelfairy> owner: the file is pretty self explanitory but the man page explains it pretty well
[05:16] <Milk> anyone awake?
[05:16] <Milk> hehe
[05:16] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: my root commands was wrong   ;)   (hd0,0) not hd(0,0)
[05:16] <Milk> Has anyone ever had problems with gdesklets loosing their transparency?
[05:17] <bina> _jason: ok, nothing was output then either
[05:17] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: as far as the equal mark goes last time I checked that's bad syntax
[05:17] <ubuntugeek> seveas: the server crashed around 2am EST hardware issue..
[05:17] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  hrm okay
[05:17] <gonzalocortes> hola
[05:17] <Seveas> ubuntugeek, ouch :/
[05:17] <gonzalocortes> alguien sabe como conectar una web cam en ubuntu?
[05:17] <_jason> bina: that's fine, now close all instances of firefox, start it up again, and test java
[05:17] <Seveas> !es
[05:17] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[05:17] <ubuntugeek> seveas: yeah
[05:18] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  it's in the wiki, see the last section: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GrubHowto?highlight=%28grub%29
[05:18] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas, hey.... when are your repos gonna be back up?
[05:18] <gonzalocortes> alguien que hable espaol?
[05:18] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: typo probably
[05:18] <_jason> !es
[05:18] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, they're not down
[05:18] <gonzalocortes> speak spanish?
[05:18] <KoruptidPryde> Saveas: not the ubuntu repo..... YOUR repo
[05:18] <_jason> gonzalocortes: /j #ubuntu-es
[05:18] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, they're not down either :)
[05:18] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde:  well somebody should fix it
[05:18] <bina> _jason: hooray, success.  Thanks _jason
[05:18] <_jason> bina: np
[05:18] <rabbit> KoruptidPryde: that is if it's wrong
[05:18] <LiNova> I cannot use any of the programs in the admin menu and i'm the only user. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[05:19] <KoruptidPryde> rabbit: look at your own grub config file and gleam the knowlege from there
[05:19] <_jason> LiNova: have you enabled root for some reason?
[05:19] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, only the html things are broken
[05:19] <FLSimpsonKPT> :-\
[05:20] <LiNova> _jason: what?
[05:20] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas, okay... when will your html be working correctly?  ;P
[05:20] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, RSN
[05:20] <schmic> the ubuntu forum is back up.. but the search is not working?
[05:20] <idefix_> is there any way to find "hidden directories" on websites?
[05:20] <_jason> LiNova: I was asking if you ever enabled the root password for some reason (ie set a password for root (which you are not supposed to do))
[05:20] <idefix_> say you have a directory on your site with no link to it in your index.html file, is there any way anyone could find this directory>
[05:21] <idefix_> '?
[05:21] <KoruptidPryde> Seveas, I'm assuming the last two letters of that stood for "sometime never"
[05:21] <chrisss> can anyone please help me install wine
[05:21] <LiNova> i don't think so. I only installed it yesterday, and since then i haven't been able to use any of the programs in system => admin
[05:21] <_jason> LiNova: you probably didn't if you can't remember.  So let's assume that's not the problem.  What does the command 'groups' output?
[05:23] <Virogenesis> the forum is back up
[05:23] <LiNova> groups gives me " paul adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev lpadmin scanner admin"
[05:23] <lysis> is there a way to set the keyboard shorcuts back to DEFAULT??
[05:23] <FLSimpsonKPT> (hourglass)
[05:24] <schmic> its not really up for me, tried to navigate anywhere in forum and i just get an error page
[05:24] <engla> doesn't seem like the forum is really alive yet
[05:24] <Virogenesis> kinda up :)
[05:24] <Seveas> KoruptidPryde, RealSoonNow
[05:24] <_jason> LiNova: does 'sudo echo hi' output hi?
[05:25] <LiNova> i can check, but i have to boot up my ubuntu partition and log off this one.
[05:25] <coolboy> how do i shut down x-server
[05:25] <KoruptidPryde> uh oh.....Seveas has the gavel   *hides*
[05:25] <Zugot> anyone here have a x300 as their video card?
[05:25] <frazmanw> Zugot, I do
[05:25] <_jason> LiNova: umm ok hold on, if you can view /etc/sudoers on the other partition, just pastebin that
[05:26] <Seveas>  /kick KoruptidPryde you can run but you can't hide
[05:26] <eugman> Oh are the forums back up ?
[05:26] <pixelfairy> coolboy: ctrl+alt+F1 login, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop"
[05:26] <pianoboy3333> what is the terminal command for renaming?
[05:26] <pixelfairy> coolboy: or ctrl+atl+backspace for a force kill if the X server is misbehaving
[05:26] <_jason> pianoboy3333: mv
[05:26] <_jason> ubotu: tell pianoboy3333 about cli
[05:26] <pianoboy3333> isn't mv move?
[05:27] <Seveas> eugman, sort-of
[05:27] <Seveas> they appear to be quite slow
[05:27] <eugman> k
[05:27] <_jason> pianoboy3333: if you move foo to bar, it becomes bar
[05:27] <Seveas> no doubt that ubuntugeek is working on it :)
[05:27] <LiNova> cat /etc/sudoers     ????
[05:27] <pianoboy3333> kk thxc
[05:27] <Seveas> pianoboy3333, renaming is moving too :)
[05:27] <pianoboy3333> *thx
[05:27] <Zugot> frazmanw did it work for you on install?
[05:28] <_jason> LiNova: are you on windows now?
[05:28] <frazmanw> Zugot, did what work exactly? be more specific.
[05:28] <LiNova> Cat /etc/sudoers gives me "permiission denied"
[05:28] <LiNova> yes i'm on windows
[05:28] <FLSimpsonKPT> me2
[05:28] <Marlun> How again can I add a bigger resolution to my available resolutions. I have 1024x768 as the biggest and I think I want 1280x1024.
[05:28] <frazmanw> Zugot, "it worked" but accelleration did not, until I installed fglrx and changed my xorg.conf file
[05:28] <_jason> LiNova: how do you cat /etc/sudoers on windows? (curious)
[05:28] <FLSimpsonKPT> marlun: i think you have to reinstall
[05:28] <Zugot> frazmanw itdidn't work at all... as a matter of fact it didn't even configure x
[05:29] <haasteem> is it possible to play wma-files with xmms?
[05:29] <SAM_theman> hello guys
[05:29] <Marlun> FLSimpsonKPT, nah, I've done it before.
[05:29] <Zugot> i can get around it......just curious
[05:29] <SAM_theman> is there a program on ubuntu so ity can read things for you automaytically ?
[05:29] <LiNova> i did it earlier and wrote it on a piece of paper
[05:29] <FLSimpsonKPT> oh
[05:29] <eugman> haasteem I dunno but do you have the win32codecs?
[05:29] <FLSimpsonKPT> lol
[05:29] <frazmanw> Zugot, I did not have that problem at all. hmmm
[05:29] <frazmanw> Zugot, this is with breezy?
[05:29] <Zugot> no biggie... i'm just gonna install fglrx
[05:29] <Zugot> frazmanw yup
[05:29] <haasteem> eugman: not sure... is there a way to check that?
[05:29] <Zugot> where is the fgrlx install page?
[05:29] <Zugot> anyone know
[05:29] <Marlun> Then I just had to enter some command and then could choose which resolutions to be able to choose from.
[05:29] <eugman> You would know if you did.
[05:29] <_jason> LiNova: google 'explore2fs' so you can view the files on your ubuntu partition while you are on windows
[05:30] <haasteem> eugman: :-)
[05:30] <eugman> hold on let me go find a repository for you
[05:30] <haasteem> eugman: i can play wmv-files
[05:30] <eugman> ah k
[05:30] <SAM_theman> and i have another problem,i am trying to play a video that ends with .wmv...right and none of my video players can play it even mplayer and xine can you help me i went to xine's site for help and it seems that mplayerhq is down
[05:30] <frazmanw> Zugot, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[05:30] <ekip> irc.opoy.fi
[05:30] <haasteem> eugman: i guess that should be part of those codecs
[05:30] <Zugot> frazmanw thats it... thanks :)
[05:30] <_jason> SAM_theman: did you isntall w32codecs?
[05:31] <SAM_theman> i don't know
[05:31] <frazmanw> Zugot, the inital install X did not work, or after you installed fglrx?
[05:31] <_jason> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about w32codecs
[05:31] <coolboy> could someone say Again how to shut of x-server i had a prob
[05:31] <eugman> I am new at this so I dunno what else you might need. you might want to search around in synaptic for any extra plugin if something is needed.
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> GADO: na most indulok angolr
[05:31] <C-O-L-T> a
[05:31] <Zugot> frazmanw the initial install... i don't have X at all
[05:31] <haasteem> right
[05:31] <LiNova> _jason: ok i got the prog
[05:32] <pixelfairy> coolboy: ctrl+alt+backspace
[05:32] <haasteem> i will check, thanks
[05:32] <Zugot> frazmanw i can get around it (i'm used to the old days), just a minor inconvience
[05:32] <coolboy> pixelfairy: and then?
[05:32] <frazmanw> Zugot, so do you have X working now then, or are you getting around at command line?
[05:32] <Zugot> oh.. and another question.  if ubuntu detects a pentium D, why doesn't it install a smp enabled kernel?
[05:32] <KSean> Hey - When trying to run amsn 0.95 I get a segmentation fault. Can anyone help? :S
[05:32] <Zugot> frazmanw i'm on the command line
[05:33] <frazmanw> Zugot, I had to manually add my smd kernel using synaptic.
[05:33] <pixelfairy> coolboy: then the X server dies, and either resets, or you have to start it again. if you have to start it again, log in, then "sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart" (if that doesnt work, then stop then start on gdm)
[05:33] <frazmanw> Zugot, oops smp
[05:33] <SAM_theman> thx while the codes are downloading about my first question.Ok I was on slackware before(Good linux Distro),anyway i notice that Slackware "10.2" had a program where a user of the computer can listen to the computer talking.I know its hard to understand me,but want i am trying to say is "Is there a program on ubuntu that can talk to you'?
[05:33] <misiek> what can be the reason of the following problem: when i run the webcam test in multimedia selector, the whole system freezes, even ctrl+alt+f# is not resopnding.
[05:33] <KSean> Hey - When trying to run amsn 0.95 I get a segmentation fault. Can anyone help?
[05:33] <Zugot> frazmanw i'm getting ready to do that now
[05:34] <amonkey> SAM_theman, flite will
[05:34] <pixelfairy> SAM_theman: you mean like festival?
[05:34] <LiNova> _jason: i got the prog
[05:34] <Zugot> so what is the consensus??  ati binary driver or fgrlx?
[05:34] <_jason> LiNova: okay, run it and paste the contents of /etc/sudoers on pastebin please
[05:34] <SAM_theman> i have no idea because i havn't use slackware for a while about a month ago :D
[05:34] <KSean> :|
[05:34] <KSean> Hey - When trying to run amsn 0.95 on Ubuntu 5.10, I get a segmentation fault. Can anyone help?
[05:35] <Seveas> KSean, run it in the terminal, put the complete output on the pastebin
[05:35] <pixelfairy> my slackware laptops on load while i install ubuntu on a "broken" laptop :)
[05:35] <pixelfairy> on loan
[05:35] <SAM_theman> umm what the heck is this? (Note: wmv files encoded with DRM (Digital Rights Management) are not playable by the codecs.)
[05:35] <_jason> SAM_theman: which part are you unsure about?
[05:36] <SAM_theman> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats#head-fda9cc5147253891fe3047263b82d787ab025bba
[05:36] <pixelfairy> SAM_theman: the future were trying to prevent. read 1984 or at least "the right to read"
[05:36] <Revellion> hmmaz
[05:36] <Dr_Willis> Lovely DRM..
[05:36] <SAM_theman> i don't understand your drift?
[05:36] <Zugot> KSean have you check the amsn support pages?
[05:36] <SAM_theman> what are you saying ?
[05:36] <LiNova> _jason, there doesn't seem to be a dudoers in /etc
[05:36] <LiNova> *sudoers
[05:37] <amonkey> what is the best light weight browser? firefox is too heavy and dillo renders poopy.
[05:37] <_jason> SAM_theman: do you know what DRM is? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Rights_Management
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> SAM_theman,  Legally they CANT play drm  media. since it would not be legal..
[05:37] <Dr_Willis> SAM_theman,  its a kind of copy protection
[05:37] <coolboy> how do I shut down x-server?
[05:37] <_jason> LiNova: are you sure?
[05:38] <pixelfairy> amonkey: lynx! (or links) or maybe opera or maybe epiphany
[05:38] <SAM_theman> so your saying "anyway we try to tweak and fix wmv. media formates won't work"
[05:38] <FLSimpsonKPT> crap
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> coolboy,  alt-ctrl-backspace (to force a restart of X) , or kill the gdm service (to keep it down)
[05:38] <SAM_theman> *formats
[05:38] <amonkey> pixelfairy, i <3 links, but i also like images.
[05:38] <Dr_Willis> SAM_theman,  wmv can work.. DRM encrupted wmv files wont.
[05:38] <pixelfairy> amonkey: theres a version of links with images
[05:39] <pixelfairy> its only barely graphical
[05:39] <coolboy> Dr_Willis: if i hit ctrl+alt+backspace, what do I do then
[05:39] <eugman> Dr. Willis so hasn't a way around the drm been found like for aac?
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> coolboy,  that should kill X and make GDM restart and reappear
[05:39] <LiNova> oh, there is sorry, but there's just a file with tux on it, i can't open it
[05:39] <amonkey> pixelfairy, i have a little more room than that. it's a lappy with 300mhz and 64mb ram. runs xorg and fluxbox.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  proberly.. I make it a point to not buy any DRM stuff.
[05:39] <Dr_Willis> DRM - Just say no. :P
[05:39] <_jason> LiNova: right click, there should be an option to read it or copy somewhere
[05:40] <pixelfairy> amonkey: thats about where dillo fits in.... its only real "problem" is the lack of css support
[05:40] <coolboy> Dr_Willis: and how do I get back to graphic mode then?
[05:40] <pixelfairy> you could try a newer version?
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> _jason, I don't think the sudoers file even lets you read it as a normal user.
[05:40] <eugman> Dr.willis have you head about the drm law draft that has everyone fraking out?
[05:40] <Dr_Willis> coolboy,  if GDM is running that should of restarted it.. if you are for some reason at the shell. use 'startx'
[05:41] <_jason> tonyyarusso: he's on windows
[05:41] <FLSimpsonKPT> where would i find the grub loader on the install cd?
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> eugman,  good.. we want lots of people freaking out.
[05:41] <amonkey> pixelfairy, anything just a little step above dillo?
[05:41] <LiNova> # /etc/sudoers
[05:41] <LiNova> #
[05:41] <LiNova> # This file MUST be edited with the 'visudo' command as root.
[05:41] <LiNova> #
[05:41] <LiNova> # See the man page for details on how to write a sudoers file.
[05:41] <LiNova> #
[05:41] <LiNova> # Host alias specification
[05:41] <LiNova> # User alias specification
[05:41] <LiNova> # Cmnd alias specification
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> _jason, Oooh.  My bad.
[05:41] <amonkey> NOOOO!!!!
[05:41] <LiNova> # Defaults
[05:41] <eugman> !pastebin
[05:41] <LiNova> Defaults	!lecture,tty_tickets,!fqdn
[05:41] <pixelfairy> amonkey: epiphany?
[05:41] <_jason> LiNova: don't paste here!
[05:41] <ubotu> it has been said that pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:41] <LiNova> # User privilege specification
[05:41] <LiNova> root	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> :)
[05:41] <LiNova> # Members of the admin group may gain root privileges
[05:41] <LiNova> %admin	ALL=(ALL) ALL
[05:41] <eugman> !flood
[05:41] <ubotu> from memory, flood is for pasting, please use http://pastebin.com , http://paste.ubuntulinux.nl or #flood here on freenode.
[05:41] <LiNova> oops
[05:41] <tonyyarusso> !tell LiNova about bannable
[05:41] <LiNova> sorry
[05:41] <LiNova> sorry
[05:41] <pixelfairy> amonkey: but thats another gecko one
[05:41] <LiNova> sorry
[05:41] <FLSimpsonKPT> anyway
[05:41] <Dr_Willis> esp dont paste stuff that has no imporntance. :P
[05:41] <LiNova> sorr
[05:42] <amonkey> pixelfairy, looking at it...
[05:42] <LiNova> *sorry
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> eugman, Where can I find that draft, and what are people freaking out about in it?
[05:42] <FLSimpsonKPT> whrere would i find the grub loader on the install cd?
[05:42] <_jason> LiNova: okay, that's not the problem... what exactly happens when you click on the icon for one of the admin tools.  Does it prompt you for a password?  Do you enter your user password?
[05:42] <amonkey> pixelfairy, requires firefox? weird. does it need gnome?
[05:43] <eugman> http://yro.slashdot.org/yro/06/01/22/0743210.shtml
[05:43] <eugman> It is very bad.
[05:43] <LiNova> _jason: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7487
[05:43] <FLSimpsonKPT> hello
[05:43] <pixelfairy> amonkey: epiphany uses gekco, the rendering engine that firefox uses, but its alot smaller
[05:43] <FLSimpsonKPT> help please
[05:43] <pixelfairy> doesnt do the XUL thing
[05:43] <eugman> Basically any form of innovation in digital media or anything that would allow for piracy is illegal
[05:43] <_jason> LiNova: okay, that's not the problem... what exactly happens when you click on the icon for one of the admin tools?  Does it prompt you for a password?  Do you enter your user password?
[05:43] <eugman> without ffc approval
[05:43] <pixelfairy> amonkey: gecko is pretty small, its XUL and all that which is big
[05:44] <tonyyarusso> eugman, Thanks.  Will check it out.
[05:44] <eugman> Feel free to write your congressman.
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> eugman, Heh, may do that.  (If I decide I'm going to have any confidence in the American "democracy"...)
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> Check my whois if you want to know where I stand on that.
[05:45] <Zugot> frazmanw installed fglrx and now everything is happy
[05:45] <Zugot> i can finally use my 213T again!
[05:45] <FLSimpsonKPT> does anyone here know where to find the grub loader on the install cd?
[05:45] <Dr_Willis> I still think we should have about a 6 Month Boycott on all music and movies.. :P
[05:46] <FLSimpsonKPT> or where it would be located
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> slap the RIAA and so on in the face
[05:46] <SAM_theman> thanks for your help :D
[05:46] <pixelfairy> Dr_Willis: ive been boycotting both for years
[05:46] <pixelfairy> i doubt its helping, but at least i know my money isnt helping them
[05:46] <Dr_Willis> pixelfairy,  no piracy either. :P thats cheating...
[05:46] <pixelfairy> Dr_Willis: im not pirating either
[05:46] <SAM_theman> ok about flite?
[05:46] <pixelfairy> which isnt difficult
[05:47] <pixelfairy> i have little intrest in most of thier crap
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> pixelfairy,  but there needs to be a big "deal" about the boycott gotta get the publicity.
[05:47] <pixelfairy> that really really would be nice...
[05:47] <pixelfairy> if you know a way, ill gladly help
[05:47] <Zugot> i hate moving to a new workstation.  reinstalling all your old software isn't fun
[05:47] <Dr_Willis> im sure its been tried.. but  im not sure why it hasent been suggested on slashdot,
[05:47] <tonyyarusso_lunc> Zugot, There's a way to automate that.
[05:47] <SAM_theman> ubout: !tell SAM_theman about flite
[05:47] <pixelfairy> a way that doenst involve live ammo that is, i got tired of being around that in highschool
[05:48] <SAM_theman> ubout: tell SAM_theman about flite
[05:48] <eugman> Zugot I'm sure there is a way you could automate things
[05:48] <GameOver> hey guys i have a question.... i have set up ndiswrapper properly and get it to work... and i have put it in the interfaces file so that it boots up... but in order to enable to work i have to type in dhclient wlan0 in the terminal everytime
[05:48] <SAM_theman> ubotu: tell SAM_theman about flite
[05:48] <GameOver> anyway i can get this to just WORK at startup
[05:48] <veleno> how can I burn a .nrg cd image ?
[05:48] <Zugot> tonyyarusso_lunc i have reinstall and configure my java developement environment... it'll take about 2 -3 hours
[05:48] <eugman> !flite
[05:48] <ubotu> eugman: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[05:48] <jason> aren't .nrg's just iso's but nero renamed them?
[05:49] <tonyyarusso_lunc> Zugot, Check out http://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2003/09/msg00152.html for instructions.  (The title doesn't quite apply, but it's the same strategy.)  This works for the bulk of packages and such, I'm not sure about the Java stuff specifically, but it might at least help lower that figure a little bit.
[05:49] <Dr_Willis> jason,  there could be some extra info in them as well
[05:49] <SAM_theman> nevermind found it with apt-get
[05:50] <LNova> _jason, what were you saying?
[05:50] <jason> Dr_Willis, I seem to recall needing to burn an .nrg myself and I believe they just changed the header a bit but that it was still iso compatible... i could be wrong it's been awhile :)
[05:50] <Zugot> tonyyarusso_lunc  i have my old java debs...
[05:50] <Marlun> I tried adding "1280x1024" in xorg.conf but that didn't work, got error when trying to start ubuntu, had to change it back to the backup file.
[05:50] <jason> LNova, if I was correct about the .nrg being the same you would be able to use cdrecord to burn it or anothe tool
[05:50] <Dr_Willis> jason,  i think k3b can burn nrg's
[05:50] <frogzoo> how can I send mail from the command line without installing sendmail ?
[05:51] <Zugot> tonyyarusso_lunc i just upgraded my primary workstatoin.. i don't do this too often :)
[05:51] <LNova> burn what?
[05:51] <Zugot> how do i tell how my fps i'm getting in X?
[05:51] <dabbler> did 'su' from habit today and worked :)  is this new ?
[05:52] <jason> I think I used a converter program called nrg2iso
[05:52] <frogzoo> Zugot, glxgears or fgl_glxgears if you have fglx
[05:52] <_jason> dabbler: nope, means you enabled root
[05:52] <pussfeller> Zugot: glxgears should
[05:52] <Zugot> frogzoo glxgears doesn't report it anymore... but flxgears is
[05:52] <dabbler> did update and now works  ?
[05:52] <scanwinder> how do i change my password for freenode?
[05:53] <frogzoo>  /msg nickserv help
[05:53] <scanwinder> ok thanks
[05:53] <frazmanw> what numbers are good for fgl_gears?
[05:53] <LNova> _jason: i need to burn something?
[05:53] <jason> LNova, didn't you say you wanted to make a CD from a .nrg file?
[05:53] <_jason> LNova: burn something?
[05:54] <pussfeller> it depends on the card, but iirc my mx420 does about a thousand....
 LNova, if I was correct about the .nrg being the same you would be able to use cdrecord to burn it or anothe tool
[05:54] <Zugot> frazmanw i have no idea... i'm getting 300 FPS with my cheap ati x300 with 128MB of mem
[05:54] <chemist> hello
[05:54] <_jason> LNova: that's jason, I'm _jason
[05:54] <frazmanw> Zugot, I get 1200 with my x300, and in glxgears I get 5600
[05:54] <frazmanw> Zugot, glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark
[05:54] <LNova> i was saying that if i try to open anything under the admin column it doesnt load
[05:54] <chump> totem keeps giving me an error when trying to play mp3 files "could not open resource for writing." Any ideas?
[05:55] <jason> LNova: you have an .nrg file, what do you want to do with it?
[05:55] <_jason> LNova: does it prompt you for a password?
[05:55] <KoruptidPryde> Anyone have any idea why a copied gtk2 theme with only a very slight modification would suddenly stop themeing 50% of apps?
[05:55] <LNova> i don't gert a password promptm, the prog just doesn;topen
[05:55] <SAM_theman> ok wait
[05:55] <SAM_theman> flite works but it sounds like a robot
[05:55] <_jason> jason: I believe that was veleno
[05:55] <SAM_theman> lol
[05:55] <SAM_theman> its sounds really funnie
[05:55] <shanghaipi> chump, did you install all the gstreamer plugins
[05:56] <jason> _jason: oops... losing track of things, thanks
[05:56] <chump> yup
[05:56] <LNova> +
[05:56] <_jason> LNova: has it ever opened?
[05:56] <chump> followed the wiki to the letter
[05:56] <shanghaipi> mp3s work everywhere else?
[05:56] <chump> no media files play yet
[05:56] <shanghaipi> did you just install?
[05:56] <chump> yesterday
[05:56] <shinu> if i put something in the background with '&' and then pull it back with 'fg', is there any way to put it back in the background?..
[05:56] <shanghaipi> alright
[05:56] <_jason> shinu: ctrl+z
[05:57] <Zugot> hmm
[05:57] <shinu> _jason: doesnt that pause the command?
[05:57] <shanghaipi> ubuntu does not install with mp3 support because there are some legal problems in doing so
[05:57] <_jason> shinu: yeah, then do bg I think
[05:57] <shanghaipi> so you need to open synaptic and install almost all the gstreamer plugins
[05:57] <shanghaipi> you want gstreamer-mad
[05:58] <chump> I know, I installed mp3 support yesterday
[05:58] <shanghaipi> hmm..
[05:58] <chump> it's installed
[05:58] <shinu> _jason: but when i fg it, i cant type commands.. cause the process 'takes over' the shell
[05:58] <chump> can check again
[05:58] <_jason> shinu: not fg, bg
[05:58] <Zugot> i love getting a faster computer
[05:58] <Zugot> its the best thing ever
[05:58] <shanghaipi> yeah, otherwise i'm kind of confused
[05:58] <Zugot> makes me wanna compile a kernel or something
[05:58] <Geopardy> join #ubuntu-it
[05:58] <shinu> _jason: i know.. do you mean i type bg in another shell?
[05:59] <chump> me too that's why I'm here
[05:59] <LNova> _jason: no, it has never opened since in installed it
[05:59] <eugman> Hey I've got firestarter up and running . Are they any other programs I should install for basic security?
[05:59] <ferret_> clamscan
[05:59] <frogzoo> eugman, consider tripwire if you like, I think smartmontools is good too
[05:59] <_jason> LNova: you are going to need to load up ubuntu and try 'gksudo synaptic'
[06:00] <_jason> shinu: nope, same shell
[06:00] <chump> just double checked, gstreamer0.8-mad is installed
[06:00] <tim|mac> are there any known problems with the ubuntu 5.10 discs and Matrox G400 graphics cards? It's not displaying any graphics (although I can enter 'expert' and see Linux starting for a very short time, after which the screen blanks out again...)
[06:00] <oknewbie> hello all
[06:00] <tim|mac> any idea?
[06:00] <shanghaipi> well blow me down
[06:00] <shinu> _jason: well. when i fg the command i put in background, it doesnt let me type any command in that shell anymore. so i cant type bg.
[06:01] <shanghaipi> maybe totem uses xine?
[06:01] <_jason> shinu: ctrl-z then bg
[06:01] <shanghaipi> i don't think that's right though
[06:01] <fery> Hi
[06:01] <shinu> _jason: oh right. thanks :)
[06:01] <fery> I need help
[06:01] <gepenk> please
[06:01] <chump> shanghaipi , Use xine?
[06:02] <shinu> _jason: yay :]  cheers
[06:02] <gepenk> please
[06:02] <oknewbie> does anyone here know how to set which media player is default in Kubuntu
[06:02] <gepenk> any one can help me with ubuntu
[06:02] <tim|mac> are there any known problems with the ubuntu 5.10 discs and Matrox G400 graphics cards? It's not displaying any graphics (although I can enter 'expert' and see Linux starting for a very short time, after which the screen blanks out again...). Any idea?
[06:02] <shanghaipi> everyone i think
[06:03] <KSean> gepenk, what problem do you have
[06:03] <_jason> shinu: you can use the 'jobs' command to see what's going on.  And if you start messing with multiple processes you can specify them with %[NUMBER]  which you get from the list.  So you can do 'fg %2' for example
[06:03] <chump> should I uninstall then reinstall gstreamer?
[06:03] <shanghaipi> it wouldn't hurt to do that
[06:03] <gepenk> i want to instal in my ubuntu pc
[06:04] <gepenk> but i cant find where is the g nome
[06:04] <gepenk> or x windows
[06:04] <gepenk> either
[06:04] <chump> can u point me to directions to uninstall ?
[06:04] <_jason> LNova: I'll be back in a bit, someone else can probably help you.  Explain to them you have verified you are part of the 'admin' group and sudoers is correct
[06:04] <eugman> Hey does anyone know the best way to reinstall a broken grub without reinstallling the base system for ubuntu?
[06:04] <shanghaipi> using synaptic...all you have to do is search for the plugins and right click on them
[06:04] <shanghaipi> click uninstall completely
[06:04] <shinu> _jason: oh great! none of those command have man pages.. precious info, thanks a lot :)
[06:05] <chump> alright, I'll try that, thanks
[06:05] <shinu> _jason: mind telling me also what the + and - next to the job numbers mean?..
[06:05] <_jason> shinu: yep, you can do kill %2 as well.  You can google 'bash job control'.  I don't know what the + and - are
[06:05] <oknewbie> gepenk what are you trying to do
[06:06] <gepenk> ok newbie : i want to install my another software, but cant find gnome or xwindows
[06:06] <gepenk> to make any comand
[06:06] <shinu> _jason: oh ok. cheers!
[06:06] <oknewbie> so you are in a command line ?
[06:07] <gerst> command line :DD
[06:07] <oknewbie> try X
[06:07] <_jason> shinu: I think man bash or man builtins probably talks about them
[06:07] <oknewbie> "X"
[06:07] <gerst> startx
[06:08] <gerst> x is enough?
[06:08] <oknewbie> works for me
[06:08] <shinu> _jason: oh right.. i see
[06:08] <shinu> _jason: does indeed.. thanks :)
[06:08] <_jason> shinu: yw
[06:09] <oknewbie> anyone know how to set what media player is default
[06:09] <fr500> helloo
[06:09] <fr500> does anyone of you know of a program for music composition like finale, but for linux?
[06:10] <coolboy> someone write an (at) plz
[06:10] <lysis> when i boot into gnome, Xorg is already using 150MB of ram.  it's NEVER done this before.   what could be wrong?
[06:11] <oknewbie> fr500 i think audacity should work
[06:11] <fr500> oknewbie, audacity is for editing audio files
[06:11] <oknewbie> soryy
[06:11] <coolboy> plz someone post (at) sign
[06:11] <oknewbie> not my cup of tea
[06:11] <lysis> @
[06:11] <coolboy> thx
[06:12] <lysis> can anybody help me with Xorg?
[06:14] <fr500> oknewbie, no prob
[06:14] <MachineScrew> how can I do a remote teminal
[06:14] <rod> lysis, how do you measure the ram usage?
[06:14] <MachineScrew> from my server
[06:14] <lysis> i've got system monitor open
[06:14] <rod> how much ram you have?
[06:14] <MachineScrew> so I don't have to walk back and fourth
[06:14] <lysis> i'm just worried that since xorg is taking up so much ram (i've only got 512mb) that it could be a MAJOR problem.
[06:14] <haasteem> fr500: the articles dave philips has written in linux journal might give you the info you need
[06:15] <oknewbie> machinescrew openssh server
[06:15] <lysis> sometimes it gets to 80% cpu usage and then i have to reboot, only for it to be sucking up all my memory right at the boot.
[06:15] <fr500> haasteem, where?
[06:15] <rod> lysis, the xorg ram includes gnome programs too, it takes it in total afaik
[06:15] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, i have that set up what do I need to do on the client end
[06:15] <MickMcMack> Hi, I've just written a CD with "readcd -w dev=/dev/dvdrw f=blah.iso" and now it refuses to eject.
[06:15] <oknewbie> putty works great in linux and windows
[06:16] <oknewbie> i use it all the time
[06:16] <rod> lysis, you could try a reconfigure of xorg, try : dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[06:16] <MachineScrew> what is putty
[06:16] <lysis> rod, xorg is using 167mb of memory right now, klibido (a program open) is using 250mb of memory
[06:16] <haasteem> fr500: have a look at this: http://www.linuxjournal.com/user/800764/track
[06:16] <fr500> kk thanks
[06:16] <oknewbie> its in the repositories
[06:16] <lysis> that's a lot of memory; i still have xchat, opera and GAIM open too.  and i wanted to watch a movie . . .
[06:16] <oknewbie> it is a ssh telenet client
[06:16] <MachineScrew> oh ok
[06:17] <MachineScrew> is it in the repos
[06:17] <oknewbie> that is how i work on my server
[06:17] <MickMcMack> If I use sudo eject, I get no errors, but the drive wont open - if I use eject as a normal user, I get the following error: "eject: unable to eject: Last error: Invalid argument"
[06:17] <Trackilizer> I installed k3b and it said it needed cdrdao, so i installed it with synaptic, but now everytime i want to burn a CD i get an error saying it will only work with root previliges.
[06:17] <oknewbie> what are you using your server for
[06:17] <gepenk> why there is no help here
[06:18] <MickMcMack> Anyone? >_<;
[06:18] <pixelfairy> i cant believe theres no ubuntu live cd making howto...
[06:18] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, music
[06:18] <oknewbie> have you tried gnump3d
[06:18] <amonkey> thats the third time i've apt-getted a game when trying to get a browser
[06:18] <carmen_> hello!!!
[06:18] <gepenk> helo tell me where can i find the gnome or xwindows icon
[06:18] <MachineScrew> no I am using jinzora
[06:19] <luisito> hi people
[06:19] <gepenk> need help please
[06:19] <oknewbie> hows that working for you
[06:19] <rambo3> on your computer or on the web?
[06:19] <MachineScrew> its not
[06:20] <oknewbie> the gnump3d i had up in about five minutes
[06:20] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me witch linux os has alot of tools and is easy to use and looks cool
[06:20] <banana> ciao a tutti
[06:20] <coolboy> how do I run an ftp server
[06:20] <hunger> Can I use some server to advertise my sound files on my LAN? (zeroconf or such)
[06:20] <haasteem> fr500: did you find something of interest?
[06:20] <LNova> Hey, could someone have a look at this please:
[06:20] <LNova> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120529
[06:20] <luisito> anyone knows about laptop infrared port activation?
[06:21] <fr500>  haasteem yeas a bunch of sw, still nothignas integrated as finale of course
[06:21] <fr500> haasteem, finale is like....wow for a composer
[06:21] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me witch linux os has alot of tools and is easy to use and looks cool
[06:22] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, jinzora has ajaxs support mysql support rss/podcast support as well as looking very cool
[06:22] <lysis> ubuntu.
[06:22] <Dr_Willis> the_mr_bong_show,  gee - that would be most of them
[06:22] <LNova> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120529
[06:22] <oknewbie> mmm
[06:22] <gepenk> need help pls
[06:22] <MachineScrew> and its free
[06:22] <gepenk> any one here can help me
[06:22] <gepenk> hiks
[06:22] <MachineScrew> check it http://www.jinzora.com
[06:22] <the_mr_bong_show> i want some thing like ubuntu and like windows
[06:22] <korhalf> the_mr_bong_show, ubuntu.
[06:22] <frazmanw> If I play games from the gnome menu they have no sound, but If I play them from command line it is fine. Any ideas? I am talking about pingus, GSnes9x, chromium,  etc
[06:22] <gepenk> hiks
[06:22] <MachineScrew> i used ubuntu-server iso
[06:23] <haasteem> fr500: ok, i've never seen it
[06:23] <rambo3> windows doesnt look that cool ?
[06:23] <oknewbie> here is the how to for gnump3d http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07s07.html
[06:23] <luisito> anyone knows if there is some software to control the brightness and contrast and gamma?
[06:23] <titanium> i'm trying to get ruby to work with apache2. i already had apache2 installed and it's running fine. today i got ruby1.8, mod_ruby, etc through synaptic. it all seems to work and apache has loaded the ruby module but if i make a .rb file (is that even the right extension?) it isn't parsed. i see Ruby in my Apache2 headers, so ruby *is* installed, i just don't seem to be able to use it.
[06:23] <gepenk> any one can get private with me
[06:23] <gnomefreak> is there a way to see if something is running other than ps aux?
[06:23] <the_mr_bong_show> would some one be willing to teach me all thay know about ubuntu
[06:23] <coolboy> how do i run an ftp server
[06:23] <MachineScrew> naw I am on step 7 for the install of jinzora
[06:23] <Dr_Willis> the_mr_bong_show,  start reading the wiki pages.. its all there.
[06:24] <the_mr_bong_show> where that
[06:24] <MachineScrew> almost done just can't import music
[06:24] <fr500> haasteem, http://www.finalemusic.com/
[06:24] <rambo3> http://www.lynucs.org/ you can go there look att screenshots and there is all the info about apps thay used so you can fix it your self
[06:24] <oknewbie> ftp
[06:24] <Dr_Willis> http://wiki.ubuntu.com
[06:24] <the_mr_bong_show> ty
[06:24] <oknewbie> you are trying to get the music from one macchine to the other ?
[06:24] <coolboy> ubotu: tell coolboy about ftp
[06:25] <the_mr_bong_show> is it true with ubuntu you dont need a fire wall
[06:25] <oknewbie> i run a firewall
[06:25] <Cyorxamp> Lo, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid
[06:25] <coolboy> how do i make ftp server
[06:25] <fr500> the_mr_bong_show, somewhat, if you are behind a nat router you are partially safe
[06:25] <MickMcMack> coolboy, inetd
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> the_mr_bong_show,  linux in general has firewalling features built in.  but often not needed
[06:25] <MickMcMack> ~inetd
[06:25] <Cyorxamp> With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install
[06:25] <Cyorxamp> I need to remember what the work around is
[06:25] <oknewbie> coolboy apt-get install gftp
[06:25] <MickMcMack> !inetd
[06:25] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, MickMcMack
[06:26] <the_mr_bong_show> i have cable inter net and with xp i have zone alarm how can i tell if i am sefe from most hackers
[06:26] <haasteem> fr500: seems neat...
[06:26] <rambo3> i think that extra apps using net , and users make need for firewall . default install is safe
[06:26] <misterchoc> hallo?
[06:26] <LNova> http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=120529
[06:26] <Cyorxamp> anyone got an idea?
[06:27] <krach-aran> ja
[06:27] <fr500> yeah ssh and some services increase the needs of a firewall
[06:27] <oknewbie> the mr bong show install firestarter
[06:27] <coolboy> oknewbie: how do I start and manage it now?
[06:27] <misterchoc> kennt sich hier jemand mit apache php aus?
[06:27] <krach-aran> wieso?
[06:27] <the_mr_bong_show> whats firestarter
[06:27] <fr500> oknewbie, apt-get install firestarter
[06:27] <fr500> the_mr_bong_show, i meant
[06:27] <oknewbie> it works by default
[06:27] <Cyorxamp> Lo, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid... With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install... I need to remember what the work around is
[06:27] <krach-aran> firestarter is a firewall gui
[06:27] <MickMcMack> Another question; why did it just take Ubuntu 23 minutes to eject a CD?
[06:27] <MickMcMack> :-\
[06:27] <fr500> the_mr_bong_show, it's a home like firewall, picture zonealarm
[06:27] <misterchoc> wenn ich zb. eine test.php seite mit dem browser ansehen will .. kommt immer das speichern unter fenster..
[06:27] <oknewbie> gftp works by default
[06:27] <misterchoc> finde den fehler nicht
[06:28] <coolboy> oknewbie: how do I make passwords, users and so , set ports and all
[06:28] <krach-aran> in httpd.con ist warsheinlich nicht angegeben das fuer php files php gebruecht werden muss suche mal unter mime
[06:28] <nsilva> i'm new to Linux (coming from FreeBSD)... on BSD I used dump to create backups, but what should i use on Ubuntu? Command-line based?
[06:28] <MickMcMack> 23 minutes to eject a CD, wow, technology _sure_ has come a long way.
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> MickMcMack, But it did eject it without you doing anything different eventually?  Weird.
[06:28] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, i am sorry
[06:28] <krach-aran> entshuldige fuer das schlechte deutsch (hallander)
[06:29] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, no i got it on the machine fine
[06:29] <oknewbie> it uses the machine users but i think the conf file is in etc dir
[06:29] <MickMcMack> tonyyarusso, yeah, I gave up on it; then it just span-down and ejected all on its own. :x
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> nsilva, I think the equivalent is dd (disk dump?)
[06:29] <misterchoc> kannst gut deutsch! *lob*
[06:29] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, i am trying to get jinzora to see it and put it in the data base
[06:29] <coolboy> is gftp only a ftp client
[06:29] <nsilva> does dd do differential backups
[06:29] <oknewbie> machinescrew it just does not recognize the music
[06:30] <the_mr_bong_show> what about addware and spy ware
[06:30] <krach-aran> du must in apache angeben dass php files zuerst durch den php interpreter mussen dazu mus das modul aktief sein und die gute mime types definiert sein
[06:30] <Dr_Willis> the_mr_bong_show,  no problem with those in linux
[06:30] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show: there isnt any
[06:30] <mandavi> hi, does anyone know how to get sound again in my account? there is sound in other accounts, only in my is says it couldn't find any soundcard...
[06:30] <the_mr_bong_show> ok thanks
[06:30] <rambo3> va fan snackar du om
[06:31] <_jason> LNova: was someone able to help you?
[06:31] <gnomefreak> !de
[06:31] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:31] <JoeBlow> how do i open .rar archives?
[06:31] <krach-aran> go to www.rarsoft and sdownload unrar
[06:31] <the_mr_bong_show> what about viruses
[06:31] <oknewbie> I am sorry that is right you would need to install ftpd-ssl
[06:32] <_jason> ubotu: tell JoeBlow about rar
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> !rar
[06:32] <ubotu> I guess rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[06:32] <gnomefreak> the_mr_bong_show: nope none of those either
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> the_mr_bong_show, Not much to speak of.  And those that exist aren't very successful.
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> the_mr_bong_show,  not an issue :p
[06:32] <MickMcMack> JoeBlow, unrar-free
[06:32] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: this is not windows.
[06:32] <tonyyarusso> nalioth, Thank God!
[06:32] <MickMcMack> It isn't?
[06:32] <Dr_Willis> 'this is not your fathers os' :P
[06:33] <sam_> Can anyone tell me a program to put my cpu load etc on my desktop...and how to install it...
[06:33] <coolboy> how do I make ftp server??????
[06:33] <sam_> mem use etc
[06:33] <the_mr_bong_show> lol what about opening the options in firefox so i can change my home page
[06:33] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso: me neither its default settings for iptables work great for me :)
[06:33] <MickMcMack> coolboy, apt-cache search ftpd
[06:33] <krach-aran> coolboy checkoout poftpd or vsftpd
[06:33] <rambo3> http://people.debian.org/~debacle/refcard/
[06:33] <krach-aran> proftpd
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> coolboy,  install a ftp server package. and run it.. you are much better off learning to use ssh and scp and so forth.
[06:33] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, Uh, my father's OS wasn't Windows either.  He ran stuff through a mainframe in school with Fortran punchcards...
[06:33] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  :p Been there... done that!
[06:34] <oknewbie> coolboy on the server machine apt-get install ftpd-ssl or just ftpd the ssl is more secure
[06:34] <sam_> can anyone help?
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> Dr_Willis, I'm told the really fun part is when one card got grabbed wrong and the whole box got flung around the room for a game of 52,000 pickup.
[06:35] <Dr_Willis> tonyyarusso,  yep.. :P
[06:35] <Cyorxamp> Hey, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid... With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install... I need to remember what the work around is
[06:35] <sam_> can anyone tell me a program that will show my cpu load mem use etc on the deskto
[06:35] <sam_> p
[06:35] <Cyorxamp> anyone know?
[06:35] <mandavi> sam_: http://gdesklets.gnomedesktop.org
[06:35] <oknewbie> anyone know how to change which media player is default
[06:36] <rambo3> sam use gdesklets . google
[06:36] <sam_> ty
[06:36] <oknewbie> sam have you searched the repositories
[06:37] <the_mr_bong_show> is firestart in my spm
[06:37] <oknewbie> I do not remember the name of such an application but I have had it installed before I found it by searching the repos
[06:37] <krach-aran> firestarter.sf.net :)
[06:38] <mandavi> sam_: apt-get install gdesklets
[06:38] <the_mr_bong_show> so i have to download it its not in my symaptic package manger
[06:38] <liam_> Yes, i have just recently updated to breezy badger from hoary hedgehog, and i cant find were the run application is anymore, can anyone help?
[06:38] <oknewbie> correct you have to apt-get install firestart
[06:39] <mattwestm> how do I upgrade gimp using apt-get?
[06:39] <gnomefreak> firestarter*
[06:39] <oknewbie> the mr bong show try apt-cache searche firestat first
[06:39] <_jason> liam_: ALT+F2, I don't know about the menu
[06:39] <tonyyarusso> liam_, Alt-F2.
[06:39] <liam_> thanks
[06:39] <fsf_rocks> mattwestm - first type man apt-get
[06:40] <nvez> anyone knows a way so I can change and make /dev/dsp be /dev/dsp1 and /dev/dsp1 get /dev/dsp ?
[06:40] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: no 'firewaqll' is necessary
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> _jason, I believe it was completely removed from the menu.
[06:40] <oknewbie> apt-get udate followed by apt get upgrade should udate your gimp
[06:41] <JoeBlow> do u guys know anything about  XFree86 ? im trying to wine half life 2 and it says i need service pack 3 or higher or some crap
[06:41] <Dr_Willis> JoeBlow,  not sure wine can do Halflife2. i hear cedega can.
[06:41] <liam_> How can i compile something?
[06:42] <JoeBlow> Dr_Willis, oops i mean half life 1
[06:42] <rambo3> gcc g++ javac
[06:42] <oknewbie> liam that is very vague
[06:42] <frazmanw> JoeBlow, cedega can do halflife2 very well
[06:42] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell liam_ about compile
[06:42] <krach-aran> ./configure && make && make install
[06:42] <MachineScrew> oknewbie machinescrew it just does not recognize the music--- ya
[06:42] <coolboy> what is that command for semi root again , uso or something?
[06:42] <Terminus> coolboy: sudo?
[06:42] <krach-aran> sudo
[06:42] <oknewbie> that is why i went with the other for now
[06:42] <frazmanw> JoeBlow, I have halflife 1 on cedega, but the online part does not work
[06:42] <coolboy> Terminus thx
[06:42] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, actualy its not connecting to the database
[06:42] <frazmanw> coolboy, sudo
[06:43] <JoeBlow> frazmanw, i dont have my half life 1 cd, but i still have the folders left on my harddrive (if i told oyu dog ate the cd, i betcha wouldnt belive ehh? thats why i didnt say)
[06:43] <Cyorxamp> Hi, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid... With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install... I need to remember what the work around is#
[06:43] <oknewbie> Machinescrew i feel your pain i tried a lot of things before i found what i am using now
[06:43] <frogzoo> coolboy, sudo
[06:43] <frazmanw> JoeBlow, lol
[06:43] <JoeBlow> frazmanw, so can i run it just from the folders
[06:43] <oknewbie> machinescrew why is it not connecting to your database
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> How can I read system mail?
[06:44] <MachineScrew> that is what I don't know
[06:44] <MachineScrew> I am in #jinzora and no luck there
[06:44] <oknewbie> have you hit the error logs
[06:44] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, no errors eather
[06:44] <oknewbie> is it mysql
[06:44] <MachineScrew> ya its mysql and php5-mysql
[06:45] <oknewbie> mmmmm
[06:45] <MachineScrew> see I don't know any thing about php or mysql
[06:45] <MachineScrew> so I am in the deepend
[06:45] <oknewbie> i dont know much either
[06:46] <JoeBlow> i have a folder from half life 1, it was on my windows partition, im trying to wine the exe, but it tells me i need service pack 3 or higher
[06:46] <oknewbie> that is why i had to stay away from those packages until I learn more
[06:46] <MachineScrew> ok well I am going to try somthing else at lest the frame work is here
[06:46] <frogzoo> what's the quickest way to send a warning beep to the sound card (beep doesn't work - no speaker)
[06:46] <stargt^Windows> Where can I find a document about Setup -Ubuntu-?
[06:46] <planetcall> any alternative to AI Roboform to work on windows with Firefox ?
[06:46] <oknewbie> machinescrew have you tried thier forums
[06:47] <MachineScrew> oknewbie, what was that help thing
[06:47] <frogzoo> tonyyarusso, probly install pkg 'mail'
[06:47] <Dr_Willis> stargt^Windows,  ubuntu wiki page is well done.
[06:47] <MachineScrew> ya i did
[06:47] <fsf_rocks> stargt* - go to help.ubuntulinux.org or wiki.ubuntulinux.org
[06:47] <stargt^Windows> thanks
[06:47] <the_mr_bong_show> nalioth what a about firestarter
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> frogzoo, Simple enough.  Thanks.
[06:47] <MachineScrew> for gum3d or somthing like that
[06:47] <fly12> hi eveyone.  newbie question here.  what is the easiest way to install a gdm login screen theme that is a .tar.gz file name
[06:47] <oknewbie> hold on
[06:47] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: you dont need it unless you are sharing an internet connection
[06:47] <LNova> Can someone help with a problen iv'e got?
[06:48] <ClayG> anyone ever build the "cantenna" or any antenna that can get wifi signals from decent
[06:48] <MickMcMack> Ahoy thar, I'm attempting to install Kubuntu on a friend's PC; the CD boots, but when install cannot mount the CD...
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> frogzoo, Well, it would be, if there was such a package.
[06:48] <Cyorxamp> Hello, theres a bug in debian/ubuntu I am trying to avoid... With certain IDE configuration (i.e. where cdroms/hdd's are placed and what channel) ubuntu/debian can't find its kernel to install... I need to remember what the work around is
[06:48] <MickMcMack> It tells me the CD is not in the drive, even though it clearly is, it just booted from the same damn CD.
[06:48] <MickMcMack> :-\
[06:48] <frogzoo> fly12, probly install 'art-manager' & then install the theme from there
[06:48] <the_mr_bong_show> no im the only on on the linux pc my gf uses xp so i duewl boot
[06:48] <oknewbie> machinescrew http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch07s07.html     when you are done go to thier page and find out how to change the them nomad is good
[06:48] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  gesh man.. I would of had that box ripped apart and the dives positioned changed by now. :P
[06:49] <the_mr_bong_show> and i want to use somthing like limewire
[06:49] <frogzoo> tonyyarusso, mailutils
[06:49] <Cyorxamp> Dr_Willis - to what tho?
[06:49] <MickMcMack> the_mr_bong_show, Limewire works on Linux.
[06:49] <nalioth> the_mr_bong_show: as mentioned a firewall ient necessary on linux
[06:49] <Cyorxamp> I'm sick of trial and error this bug should be fixed
[06:49] <Gunfus> hello
[06:49] <the_mr_bong_show> ok
[06:49] <Manny> hi
[06:49] <MickMcMack> So, I really don't want to be rebooting into Windows, just to rewrite this stupid CD. :(
[06:49] <Gunfus> !e
[06:49] <fsf_rocks> mr-bong go to sourceforge.net and check out how many p2p clients there are for linux just for shiz n giggz
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> frogzoo, That looks right.
[06:49] <Manny> are there any plans to add -dbg packages for all libraries?
[06:49] <Dr_Willis> Cyorxamp,  try rearangeing them. Id never heard of any such bug..    checking the wiki/forums would also be the place to look.
[06:50] <Cyorxamp> The ubuntuforum looks down to me :S
[06:50] <Manny> I sometimes need them for evince/libpoppler, dbus, etc.
[06:50] <Dr_Willis> forums seem to be up/down a lot lately.
[06:50] <Cyorxamp> I see it mentioned looking at a google search tho - seen it mentioned lots of time
[06:50] <the_mr_bong_show> then can some one help me get set up thunderbird so i can get my yahoo emails and hotmail
[06:50] <Cyorxamp> I get the same when installing debian too
[06:50] <Cyorxamp> This thing needs bloody fixing!
[06:50] <frogzoo> how can I play a sound effect from the cli?
[06:50] <Cyorxamp> I just wish I knew the bug number so I can moan officially
[06:50] <nalioth> Buster: mind your manners here, please
[06:51] <liam_> can anyone help me with compiling, the page in the wiki was not very informative at all
[06:51] <RickKnight> 'morning.
[06:51] <Gunfus> how can I make a boot disk from ubuntus?
[06:51] <Dr_Willis> check debian forums or #debian also? they may have some more details.
[06:51] <LNova> I cannot seem to open any programs from the System => Administrator menu in breezy, when i click oon anything like symantec, it just doesn't open, or even show anysines of loading. My sudoers is fine, so i can't see what the problem is. Can anyone help?
[06:51] <oknewbie> lnova reboot
[06:51] <RickKnight> I'm trying to build the fglrx kernel module on 2.6.12. Getting build errors. Can anyone here help me with this?
[06:51] <LNova> i have done many times
[06:52] <oknewbie> i have had that problem before on my celeron machaine
[06:52] <arm0sfighter> ive been trying to install an emulator but its been wanting me to install all the things to install and now it wants me to install SDL-1.2.9 and i keep on getting this make: *** [install-recursive]  Error 1
[06:52] <Gunfus> how can I make a boot disk from ubuntus?
[06:52] <arm0sfighter> what do i doo!
[06:52] <Gunfus> anyone?
[06:52] <jtrask> how do i keep gaim from getting signed off when my screensaver comes up?
[06:52] <LNova> did yours just fix by rebooting then?
[06:52] <the_mr_bong_show> i need help seting up my thunder emails yahoo and hotmail
[06:52] <stargt^Windows> Is it a good way to install Ubuntu on laptop?
[06:52] <stargt^Windows> Doesn't It have any problem?
[06:53] <frogzoo> stargt, depends on the model & hardware - but mostly straightforward
[06:53] <fsf_rocks> stagt^ -- Try a live CD first on your hardware
[06:53] <frogzoo> if you know what you're doing ;)
[06:53] <Gunfus> hello
[06:53] <LNova>  I cannot seem to open any programs from the System => Administrator menu in breezy, when i click oon anything like symantec, it just doesn't open, or even show anysines of loading. My sudoers is fine, so i can't see what the problem is. Can anyone help?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> stargt^Windows, Depends on the laptop.  I'm running on a laptop now.
[06:54] <Gunfus> does anyone known a easy way to make a bootable disk?
[06:54] <mandavi> does anyone know in what files the sound-configuration of an account is saved?
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Of what?
[06:54] <Bizzeh> can someone do me a huge favour
[06:54] <stargt^Windows> first, live cd can run on laptop
[06:54] <liam_> can anyone help me with compiling, the wiki faq was very uninformative
[06:54] <beelzebub1987> Are the Ubuntu Forums down?
[06:54] <Gunfus> of my Linux boot partition. ohh FYI.. I have LILO
[06:54] <beelzebub1987> Because I can't get to them
[06:54] <beelzebub1987> Anyone know?
[06:54] <javaTard> Forums are down for me too
[06:55] <beelzebub1987> yeah...
[06:55] <beelzebub1987> why is that?
[06:55] <javaTard> Spring cleaning? idk
[06:55] <frazmanw> Is there a way around the oss sound issues with games without shutting off system sounds?
[06:55] <Bizzeh> can someone go to the ubuntu wiki, get the ati binary driver stuff, find the bit about using the download from ati.com and paste it in pm for me please
[06:55] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, I want to dual boot with windows.. but I need a bootable disk so that i can overwrite the MBR after installing windows
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> liam_, I can give it a shot.
[06:55] <beelzebub1987> heh
[06:55] <beelzebub1987> it's not spring yet
[06:55] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Do you have a Live CD?
[06:55] <Gunfus> yes
[06:55] <fsf_rocks> stagt^ -- this might answer some of your questions http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/index.html
[06:55] <liam_> tonyyarusso: that would be cool.
[06:55] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, yes
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, That seems to be the easiest way, since those are already a bootable disk for you.
[06:56] <stargt^Windows> Does Ubuntu support Wi-Fi well?
[06:56] <the_mr_bong_show> how can i set up thunderbird for my hotmail. acount
[06:56] <Gunfus> right but how do I load my already install Linux?
[06:56] <javaTard> I am using Ubuntu on my laptop wirelessly
[06:56] <fsf_rocks> stagt^Windowz --- YES
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> liam_, What exactly are you trying to do, and where do you run into trouble?
[06:56] <stargt^Windows> thanks, i'll try
[06:56] <tonyyarusso> stargt^Windows, Might depend on your card.  Again, mine's great.
[06:56] <Bizzeh> once i changed something in /etc/apt/sources.list what do i run to get apt to see the new stuff
[06:57] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso,  right, but how do I load my already install Linux after botting with the CD?
[06:57] <fsf_rocks> stagt^Windowz --- see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:57] <LNova> Big question
[06:57] <LNova>  I cannot seem to open any programs from the System => Administrator menu in breezy, when i click oon anything like symantec, it just doesn't open, or even show anysines of loading. My sudoers is fine, so i can't see what the problem is. Can anyone help?
[06:57] <javaTard> stargt^Windows: pay attention to the driver you use
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Well, I'm not familiar with lilo, but !grub has some information for that, which you might be able to tweak for your situation.
[06:57] <fsf_rocks> stagt^Windowz --- you can get almost any wifi card working
[06:57] <liam_> tonyyarusson: well i dont know anything about even were to start, and the wiki was usless in directing me
[06:57] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, okay
[06:57] <JoeBlow> how do you mount a .bin and .cue files
[06:57] <Gunfus> thanks
[06:57] <_jason> LNova: do 'gksudo nautilus' in a terminal and see what it says
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, Basically you can just mount and chroot, then write whatever you need to to the mbr.
[06:57] <RickKnight> javaTard, are you JavaPunk?
[06:58] <Gunfus> ohh right.. right..
[06:58] <Gunfus> okay
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> liam_, Okay.  Where to start: What are you trying to compile?
[06:58] <Gunfus> tyhanks for the reminder.. that is right.. i just got to mount and then run lilo with my lilo conf.. thanks
[06:58] <fsf_rocks> stagt^Windowz --- you can get almost any wifi card working with Ndiswrapper if its not supported by default
[06:58] <the_mr_bong_show> i want to setup thunderbird with my yahoo and hotmail accounts how can i do that
[06:58] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, thanks man
[06:58] <sam_> Does anyone here use Windows?
[06:58] <liam_> tonyyarusso: visualboyadvance (its C++)
[06:58] <javaTard> Rickknight: Um not sure, I dont think so
[06:58] <JoeBlow> how do you mount a .bin and .cue files
[06:58] <witless> is there a realplayer for ubuntu that doesn't suck nutsack?
[06:58] <Terminus> JoeBlow: you have to convert those to ISO. i think a program called binchunk or something like that will work.
[06:58] <JoeBlow> sam_, sometimes
[06:58] <tonyyarusso> Gunfus, np.  (I've had to do it too.)
[06:58] <JoeBlow> Terminus, cool
[06:58] <fsf_rocks> sam - What is this windows you speak of?
[06:58] <_jason> sam_: please do not speak that word.  (sometimes though)
[06:58] <Gunfus> tonyyarusso, hehe
[06:58] <stargt^Windows> i use windows now
[06:59] <Terminus> sam_: i'm on windows right now. :)
[06:59] <fsf_rocks> sam - JUst kiddin
[06:59] <LNova> Thanks _jason, i'll go and try
[06:59] <JoeBlow> i wonder if i could get painkiller to work on linux
[06:59] <sven> hi. i got a problem with compiling 2.6.11 with ac patch. when i start "make modules" i get an error message at generic_serial.c . There are many warnings of outdated functions(or whatever). has anybody an idea what i could do?
[06:59] <tonyyarusso> liam_, Well, my suggestion would be to forget compiling and use apt, but that's just me.
[06:59] <fsf_rocks> I use 5 different OS's
[06:59] <fsf_rocks> for diff thingz
[06:59] <liam_> tonyyarusso: yes, i apt-get'd it, but i can't find were the damn thing whent, and search comes up dry
[06:59] <fsf_rocks> like Ubuntu the best
[06:59] <_jason> fsf_rocks: mac windows linux bsd ?
[07:00] <the_mr_bong_show> wich one is your porn os fsf_rocks
[07:00] <RickKnight> javaTard: JavaPunk helped get past an ieee80211 build problem. Thought it might be you. Sorry.
[07:00] <Terminus> JoeBlow: http://he.fi/bchunk/
[07:00] <Skwid_> _jason: if i remember 1st grade correctly, that looks like 4 to me :)
[07:00] <javaTard> RickKnight: ahhhhh thought it was a group or something. No, I am just a java retard
[07:00] <_jason> Skwid_: not if you count the '?' :)
[07:00] <fsf_rocks> jason - no MAC -- Multiple distros of linux, bsd's, solaris, windoz
[07:00] <_jason> fsf_rocks: ah ok I see
[07:00] <fsf_rocks> jason - mac is crap
[07:01] <fsf_rocks> lol
[07:01] <JoeBlow> Terminus, ohh i got it now, thnx
[07:01] <sam_> i use xp/ubuntu
[07:01] <Skwid_> fsf_rocks: i wouldn't really consider each distro a different OS...
[07:01] <fsf_rocks> skwid - same heritage in some cases
[07:01] <_jason> let's continue the distro talk in #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:01] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one tell me how to setup thunderbird for yahoo and hotmail
[07:01] <Bizzeh> why cant i apt-get install gcc-3.4
[07:01] <Skwid_> grrr why won't ubuntu boot the installer :S
[07:02] <fsf_rocks> k
[07:02] <_jason> Bizzeh: do you get an error?
[07:02] <Bizzeh> no package
[07:02] <muadda> I've just installed both qt3 and qt4 on ubuntu 5.10. update-alternative still use qt3 for all /usr/bin/ stuff. Is there a way to update-alternative *all* binary in one shot ?
[07:02] <RickKnight> Is there anyone here using ATI and frglx?
[07:02] <_jason> !info gcc-3.4
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> liam_, Finding it will probably be easier than installing again, which won't necessarily even solve your issue.  You probably need to update the locate database before it will work.
[07:02] <ubotu> gcc-3.4: (The GNU C compiler), section devel, is optional. Version: 3.4.4-6ubuntu8 (breezy), Packaged size: 473 kB, Installed size: 4520 kB
[07:02] <tonyyarusso> RickKnight, Yes.
[07:02] <Bizzeh> "no instalation candidate" actualy
[07:02] <Terminus> JoeBlow: apparently, there's a debian package in their repos so it might be in the ubuntu repos too. :)
[07:02] <stargt^Windows> Which Programming language do you prefer?
[07:02] <stargt^Windows> s
[07:03] <zuverink> I am trying to set up getmail, but cannot figure out how to make a maildir in my user home directory, how do you do this?
[07:03] <RickKnight> tonyyarusso: Did you build the kernel module?
[07:03] <fsf_rocks> s?
[07:03] <Manny> what's the most effective way of reaching a big amount of ubuntu developers/packagers? A particular mailing list?
[07:03] <_jason> Bizzeh: do you have the main repo enabled?
[07:03] <stargt^Windows> nothing
[07:03] <fsf_rocks> o
[07:03] <tonyyarusso> RickKnight, I didn't have to do anything really.  I did download linux-restricted-modules though, which I think is where that is.
[07:03] <Bizzeh> _jason: ye
[07:03] <JoeBlow> Terminus, found it right on synaptic
[07:03] <_jason> Bizzeh: apt-get update
[07:04] <Terminus> JoeBlow: cool. :)
[07:04] <helmut> hallo
[07:04] <tim_> how do i control my CPU throttling if my processor supports cool'n'quiet?
[07:04] <sam_> linux rocks my socks off.
[07:04] <RickKnight> tonyyarusso:What ubuntu are you using? Breezy?
[07:04] <fsf_rocks> sam - roger that!
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> RickKnight, Yes.
[07:04] <helmut> can anyone hear me
[07:04] <helmut> huhu
[07:04] <tonyyarusso> Yes helmut.
[07:04] <fsf_rocks> helmut - I can but you sound like text
[07:05] <helmut> hello iam from germany
[07:05] <_jason> !de
[07:05] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[07:05] <fsf_rocks> hello helmut
[07:05] <stargt^Windows> i have to try to install Ubuntu on my laptop now, bb
[07:05] <Bizzeh> _jason: i seem to have a later gcc installed
[07:05] <Bizzeh> may be why
[07:05] <javaTard> yikes, hope he backed up his data before he tries a dual boot
[07:05] <frogzoo> and the answer to playing a sound from the cli is.... ??     aplay!
[07:05] <_jason> Bizzeh: no, you can have both
[07:05] <fsf_rocks> javatard - i know man
[07:05] <MickMcMack> I find it preposterous that I have to use Windows to write an Ubuntu install CD, because Ubuntu kills CD's. :-\
[07:06] <_jason> Bizzeh: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list please
[07:06] <KSean> :X forums still down
[07:06] <fsf_rocks> javatard - sometime people just need to READ the manuals
[07:06] <fsf_rocks> javatard - LOL
[07:06] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, no probs this end - mebbe you need no=acpi   ?
[07:06] <javaTard> fsf_rocks: yea, but people think nothing wil go wrong
[07:06] <jtrask> is it likely that the reason my gaim is getting dropped when my screensaver comes up has something to do with ubuntu?
[07:06] <witless> RealMedia on linux sucks nutsack...  what's the best-supported video format on linux?
[07:07] <fsf_rocks> javatard - Lmoa
[07:07] <MickMcMack> frogzoo, the CD wrote, the install booted, but then the install couldn't read its own CD.
[07:07] <MickMcMack> :s
[07:07] <CanYouHelpMePlz> witless: avi
[07:07] <fsf_rocks> witless - real player simply sux period
[07:07] <CosmoDad> witless: mpeg4
[07:07] <witless> unfortunately it's all that c-span seems to offer
[07:07] <Bizzeh> _jason: cant, im stuck in console untill i get fglrx working
[07:07] <witless> i'm penning and angry missive to them now and i want to suggest another format
[07:07] <fsf_rocks> witless - real player simply sux -- they are all ad driven and annoying
[07:07] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, from the boot prompt, try 'linux acpi=no"
[07:07] <javaTard> witless: vlc players runs most everything for me
[07:08] <Marlun> Anyone who has any tips on how to make a TAB in gedit when I've got "convert tabs to spaces"? How to make it without changing the settings then.
[07:08] <MickMcMack> Willdo, frogzoo. Thanks. o/
[07:08] <JoeBlow> Terminus, that program works great
[07:08] <CosmoDad> witless: I usually choose wma and let mplayer play it. It's not as good as having MPEG4, but at least it works
[07:08] <Hahn> I need a bit of help. I managed to screw up sudo. My hostname 'COMPUTER' isn't in /etc/hosts, and I can't edit it.
[07:09] <_jason> Hahn: boot in recovery mode or use a livecd
[07:09] <Terminus> JoeBlow: i've never actually tried using it but at one point, i was wondering the same thing. glad to hear it works. :)
[07:09] <tonyyarusso> liam_, Well, I managed to find the docs in /usr/share/doc/visualboyadvance - that might help you.
[07:09] <JoeBlow> Terminus, really simple command line prog, works easy
[07:09] <Hahn> _jason. I've been told that numerous times, what do I do after that? (Keep in mind I've been using linux for like three days now.)
[07:09] <liam_> ok, ty
[07:09] <witless> CosmoDad: it hurts me to use wma format.
[07:09] <Hahn> I have a liveCD, and I can boot from it easily.
[07:09] <Terminus> JoeBlow: happy mounting! hehe
[07:10] <JoeBlow> Terminus :)
[07:10] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, correction "linux acpi=off'
[07:10] <CosmoDad> witless: me too, but if you're talking about streaming media, you usually don't have much of a choice
[07:10] <_jason> Hahn: 'nano /etc/hosts', if you use the livecd option you will need to mount the partition and update the path accordingly as well as use sudo
[07:10] <theeil> how do i get rid of the framebuffer when loading operating system?
[07:10] <Hahn> _jason. I don't know how to do any of that.
[07:10] <Terminus> errr... i don't think what i said was politically correct. lol
[07:10] <bryanl> has anyone here upgraded ndiswrapper?
[07:10] <RickKnight> tonyyarusso: When I try to select the fglrx kernel module in kynaptic, it won't select. What does that mean?
[07:10] <_jason> Hahn: then use recovery mode, you can select it in the grub menu
[07:10] <JoeBlow> Terminus, when i was in windows i took everything i owned and put it .bin and .cue, and i had a lan party server, and when someone needed to reinstall a game they could just get it off their real fast download, and they had to use their own keys, but it made it really easy
[07:10] <fsf_rocks> witless - MS has stupid closed formats that piss me off to no end
[07:11] <witless> javaTard: i tried running the stream with vlc and it locked up on me
[07:11] <JoeBlow> Terminus now alot of my cds where destroyed by an idiot dog
[07:11] <tonyyarusso> RickKnight, Beats me.  I haven't used Synaptic for months.
[07:11] <Hahn> _jason. I don't know what grub is. I'm booting from the liveCD now.
[07:11] <LNova> _jason?
[07:11] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, correction "linux acpi=off' - in case you missed it
[07:11] <JoeBlow> Terminus who wants me to pay for his vet bill now
[07:11] <fotis> HAI
[07:11] <_jason> Hahn: ok, I'll walk you through it
[07:11] <_jason> LNova: yes?
[07:11] <Hahn> Thank you.
[07:12] <McGyver^> hi
[07:12] <LNova> that command did'nt do anything
[07:12] <MickMcMack> frogzoo, acpi=off did not help.
[07:12] <tonyyarusso> Someone familiar with the Synaptic interface, what does RickKnight's situation mean?
[07:12] <_jason> Hahn: first we are going to mount your partition.  'sudo fdisk -l' and find out which one corresponds to your / (should say Linux in System column)
[07:12] <witless> http://209.144.51.202/ram/feature/0106/btv010706_4.ram  <-- can't play
[07:13] <_jason> LNova: was there any output to the terminal?
[07:13] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, usually this is the problem 'linux acpi=off'   yes?
[07:13] <Hahn> Ugh, that computer takes so damned long to start the liveCD.
[07:13] <_jason> witless: mplayerplug-in is playing that fine here
[07:13] <tonyyarusso> witless, Same here.
[07:14] <tonyyarusso> witless, Except for the part where I'm listening to music too, so it sounds kinda funny.
[07:14] <MickMcMack> frogzoo, no - whether I use acpi=off or not, it still cannot mount the CD.
[07:14] <LNova> yes
[07:15] <LNova> hang on, ill go and check it again
[07:15] <frogzoo> MickMcMack, wierd - what's the model?
[07:15] <witless> realplayer worked for me but locks up consistently after about 5 mins
[07:15] <_jason> LNova: can't you join us in irc from ubuntu?
[07:15] <Cyorxamp> Hi, there is an issue with the installer where it goes on about 'no installable kernel found' when cdroms/hdd are arranged in a certain way on IDE channels - basically a bug, can anyone point me in the direction of a workaround? or even the official bug report?
[07:15] <_jason> witless: remove that crap, just use mplayer
[07:16] <_dave> has anyone had success getting a microsoft wireless mouse 2.0 to work successfully in ubuntu?
[07:16] <}{-KiX-}{> hello ppl can someone help with some networking
[07:16] <tsdh> Today I've installed kubuntu 5.10 on a system, but now I have network problems. I do get an IP from my DHCP and the right nameserver is in my resolv.conf. I can ssh to any external host but ftp and http don't work.
[07:16] <fsf_rocks> witless - mplayer of vldeolan client work just fine
[07:16] <KoruptidPryde> _clave: work... or work with all the bells and whistles?
[07:16] <witless> _jason: Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[07:17] <LNova> _Jason: it said gksaudo: Command not found
[07:17] <_dave> just work normally, mine seems to have a mind of its own, where it will radomly select and deselect hings
[07:17] <Hahn> Okay, liveCD finished booting. I am about to open a terminal and fun 'sudo fdisk -l'.
[07:17] <_jason> LNova: is that a typo?  did it say 'gksudo' or 'gksaudo'
[07:17] <KoruptidPryde> LNova:you are using the wrong command.... either sudo or gksu
[07:17] <_jason> witless: you need w32codecs
[07:17] <frogzoo> tsdh, sounds like a problem on your router's nat
[07:17] <}{-KiX-}{> I have a USB wireless adaptor. how do i enable it. I cannot get any network and when i go to network connections i cannot add anything
[07:17] <LNova> thing is jason, i cant use the internet tilli can use synaptic to install nds
[07:18] <_jason> Hahn: please prefix what you say with my name or I'll miss it :)
[07:18] <_dave> i am just wondering if there is a special line in xorg.conf i need to add
[07:18] <tsdh> frogzoo: But how can that happen? All other 4 hosts work.
[07:18] <Zugot> man... the ndiswrapper in breezy is old...
[07:18] <_jason> LNova: ok, i understand.  So was that a typo above?
[07:18] <Nogimics> Can anybody help me with vsftpd here pls? I keep getting the following error "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[07:18] <_adam> anyone use network-manager with vpn capability yet?
[07:18] <KoruptidPryde> }{-KiX-}{, ndiswrappers
[07:18] <tonyyarusso> _jason, I wouldn't be too sure about that answer.  avisynth.dll isn't in w32codecs.
[07:18] <frogzoo> tsdh, stock ubuntu works for web & ftp so look elsewhere
[07:18] <_jason> ubotu: tell witless about w32codecs
[07:19] <Hahn> _jason.What part of the output do you want?
[07:19] <_jason> Hahn: you can put it all on pastebin if you want
[07:19] <}{-KiX-}{> KoruptidPryde: i am running the live cd version. where do i findndiswrappers
[07:19] <tsdh> frogzoo: ok, thanks
[07:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell Hahn about pastebin
[07:19] <KSean> There seems to have been a problem with the Ubuntu Forums database.
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[07:19] <KSean> An E-Mail has been dispatched to our Technical Staff, whom you can also contact if the problem persists.
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[07:19] <LNova> _jason, sorry i typed it in wrong, i just typed it in again without the A and got "unable to lookup ubuntu via get host by name ()"
[07:19] <witless> _jason: thanks
[07:19] <_jason> ubotu: tell KSean about pastebin
[07:19] <_adam> or have experience running vpnc
[07:19] <KoruptidPryde> }{-KiX-}{, you don't on the live cd
[07:19] <whyameye> something is wrong with my X configuration so xvideo isn't working correctly. Can somebody help?
[07:19] <KSean> 4 lines? :X
[07:19] <LNova> _ason, sorry i typed it in wrong, i just typed it in again without the A and got "unable to lookup ubuntu via get host by name ()"
[07:19] <nalioth> KSean: please don't paste in here
[07:20] <KSean> k
[07:20] <_jason> LNova: ok good news, we can easily fix that :)
[07:20] <}{-KiX-}{> KoruptidPryde: right so i need to install the full version right. ok, i have XP at the moment, i will be able to use it as multiboot. right?
[07:20] <_dave> i have tried to search ubuntuforums but no luck....(although the site seems to be down right now)
[07:20] <whyameye> xvinfo says "no adapters present"....
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> KSean, I think the limit seems to be 2.  Maybe three if ops are in a good mood.
[07:20] <_adam> i cant seem to access the forums either
[07:20] <_jason> LNova: pastebin /etc/hosts and /etc/hostname
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> }{-KiX-}{, Of course.
[07:20] <tonyyarusso> !tell }{-KiX-}{ about dualboot
[07:20] <ssstormy> is anyone familiar with kino?  I've tried using it, but when I try and add non-DV files it won't import them.  It says "converting", and then fails, no matter what kind of video it's handling
[07:20] <KoruptidPryde> }{-KiX-}{, as long as you have enough space left on your drive to do so
[07:21] <}{-KiX-}{> thanx everyone
[07:21] <LNova> _jason, ok, gimme a sec
[07:22] <rambo3> i am getting this errormaby i should use ff 1.5
[07:22] <Nogimics> Can anybody help me with vsftpd here pls? I keep getting the following error "500 OOPS: could not bind listening IPv4 socket"
[07:22] <rambo3> https://bugzilla.ubuntu.com/show_bug.cgi?id=12124
[07:22] <tonyyarusso> I keep getting this in my system mail, what should I do?: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[07:23] <C-O-L-T> GADO: hello
[07:23] <C-O-L-T> GADO: vagy-e
[07:23] <_dave> has anyone been able to get a microsoft wireless mouse 2.0 to work with ubuntu succesfully?
[07:23] <Manny> FYI: I found out how to reach most of the developers. https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-devel
[07:24] <idefix_> wit synaptic, what's the difference between a white box, a white box with a yellow star and a green box?
[07:24] <tonyyarusso> How can I moniter my total internet bandwidth for a given 1-month period?  (So I know what my bill will be.)
[07:25] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, white=not selected, nothing interesting, star=newly available, updated, or something like that, green=installed.
[07:25] <Hahn> _jason. http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7490
[07:26] <idefix_> tonyyarusso, so if you're a real fanatic you'd mark all upgrades of the white boxes with yellow stars and click apply ?
[07:26] <Krhis> What command does Linux use to delete /tmp on bootup?
[07:26] <Krhis> Been grep'ing everything today.... can't find it.
[07:26] <_adam> did they remove dvdrip from the universe repo?
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, No, you use the option to automatically select all upgrades, then click apply.
[07:26] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, Why click them all?
[07:27] <cold> anyone know how to boot a ubuntu destro from the install disk ?
[07:27] <idefix_> that's a wild action, no good tonyyarusso
[07:27] <idefix_> I'm not a real fanatic..
[07:27] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> hi!, i have a LG DVD RW GSA-4167B
[07:27] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, ?  I wouldn't say I'm a real fanatic either, just like to be up-to-date.
[07:27] <_jason> Hahn: okay, now do this: 'sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/ubuntuhd'
[07:27] <fsf_rocks> who had the vsftpd question
[07:28] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> and doesn't work on ubuntu, when the OS tries to read from him it get frozeen
[07:28] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> and fails after a few minutes
[07:28] <idefix_> so you do do it then? use the option to automatically select all upgrades and click apply?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> cold, As in like a live session from an install disk?  You can't do that; there's a separte CD for it.
[07:28] <LNova> _Jason?
[07:28] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, I do it via command line, but yes.
[07:28] <_jason> LNova: yes?
[07:28] <fsf_rocks> who had the vsftpd question???
[07:28] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> i tried with ubuntu warty and worked ok, the problem is with breezy
[07:28] <Hahn> _jason. After entering the command, the computer waited a few seconds, then went to a new prompt. No errors.
[07:28] <idefix_> tonyyarusso, apt-get upgrade?
[07:29] <martin__> hi I am having myth tv install problems when i type in the apt-get instlall myth tv command i get an error saying acces denied
[07:29] <Ma-Dean> AlbertEin_ZaYa: i have the same drive and it's working fine
[07:29] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, Yep.
[07:29] <LNova> my hosts is "127.0.0.1 localhost" and hostname is "ubuntu"
[07:29] <fsf_rocks> martin- are you sudo or root?
[07:29] <_jason> Hahn: good, now 'sudo gedit /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hosts' and add your hostname from /etc/hostname
[07:29] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> Ma-Dean, when i change the drive it worked fine, i tested with a ibm DVD combo and works nice
[07:29] <yaaar> wordd
[07:29] <idefix_> tonyyarusso, should I do it too or could my PC get slower from it?
[07:30] <yaaar> does ubuntu ship with some sort of remote desktop app, like a frontend to vnc/rdesktop?
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, Well, I don't really know enough about the inner workings of things to answer that intelligently, but I've seen no problem.
[07:30] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> Ma-Dean, did you know what could be the problem ?
[07:30] <martin__> fsf-rocks how do i check sory this is my first linux install
[07:30] <yaaar> and/or somebody know the package i should apt-get for same?
[07:30] <LNova> _jason: my hosts is "127.0.0.1 localhost" and hostname is "ubuntu"
[07:30] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, System > Preferences > Remote Desktop to access, I'm not sure if it's actually installed by default or not.
[07:30] <Ma-Dean> AlbertEin_ZaYa: no.. it worked out of the box here..
[07:31] <pixelfairy> are the forums down?
[07:31] <idefix_> tonyyarusso, I'll just try then..
[07:31] <martin__> there down
[07:31] <idefix_> should I close all other programs before doing so?
[07:31] <AlbertEin_ZaYa> Ma-Dean, thanks
[07:31] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: yep, it's there....i must be blind. anyway, that's awesome; thanks
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, apt-cache search vnc to check out your options.
[07:31] <_jason> LNova, Hahn: modify the first line of /etc/hosts to be like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7491 (lnova for "my_hostname" you change it to ubuntu)
[07:31] <Ma-Dean> does the drive still work in other distros or windows?
[07:31] <metalhedd> I'm trying to configure pure-ftpd the chroot doesn't seem to be working, I've given the user a home directory and set it to lock them into it, but when I log in, it ignores the specified home dir and goes to /home/username and also allows them full read access to the whole disk
[07:31] <tim|mac> hi, second stage installation failed here (no network), i fixed that, how can i start second stage install anew?
[07:31] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, I don't think it matters.  I'm always running stuff.
[07:32] <webby> hi
[07:32] <webby> I need some help
[07:32] <webby> my friends ipod died
[07:32] <webby> 4G 40GB
[07:32] <FLSimpsonKPT> lol
[07:32] <FLSimpsonKPT> wrong place
[07:32] <webby> and I want to use ubuntu
[07:33] <webby> to format it
[07:33] <_jason> ubotu: tell webby about enter
[07:33] <FLSimpsonKPT> oh
[07:33] <FLSimpsonKPT> hrm
[07:33] <_adam> anyone been able to build network-manager with vpn?
[07:33] <LNova> _jason, can i try it out now then?
[07:33] <_adam> i cant find the libnl library it refers too
[07:33] <webby> oh, sorry about that. anyway, umm I'm sure you can help me out.
[07:33] <FLSimpsonKPT> dont know much about puttin ubuntu on a ipod. sorry webby
[07:33] <jamuraa> I have a problem with evolution - it keeps crashing when I try to remove or disable an account.  Is there a way to delete all my evolution accounts and preferences without completely destroying all gnome preferences?
[07:33] <_adam> webby: gtkpod
[07:33] <webby> not on! heh, usuing ubuntu to format an ipod.
[07:33] <_jason> LNova: yes, just save and you should be good to go
[07:33] <preglow> i need to compile my own kernel to add proper realtime support. does ubuntu require any kernel settings?
[07:34] <webby> its a little bit more complicated, the ipod doesn't work. it freezes windows XP (of course)
[07:34] <_jason> LNova: wait
[07:34] <FLSimpsonKPT> webby: i dont know if you can do that with ubuntu
[07:34] <_jason> LNova: I forget, you used the livecd to mount your partition and edit?
[07:34] <_adam> webby: use gtkpod...
[07:34] <tim|mac> can anyone tell me how to start second stage installation (after the first boot) manually?
[07:34] <CodeNinja> webby, gparted?
[07:34] <webby> just think of it as an external fat drive that needs to be formated.
[07:34] <_adam> or mount the device
[07:34] <Hahn> _jason. The /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hosts file was blank, as was /mntubuntuhd/etc/hostname. And after adding the line in the pastebin link to ...../etc/hosts it said it could not save the file.
[07:34] <_adam> and format it using fdisk
[07:34] <webby> yes, gtkpod, and gqparted. but I can't mount.
[07:35] <_adam> why cant you mount it webby
[07:35] <webby> they don't see the ipod, all I need is to get it to mount and then qtparted.
[07:35] <LNova> Argh! _Jason, i paste that thing into my hopsts, but it doesn't save
[07:35] <webby> that why I came here, I can't seem to figure out why it won't mount.
[07:35] <tim_> hm, when i try to change my CPU frequency nothing happens - it just stays at 90%
[07:35] <webby> (my ipod mini 6GB works quite well in ubuntu for example)
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> !ipod
[07:35] <ubotu> info for syncing your iPod is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IPodHowto
[07:35] <_adam> webby: if you got usb working properly it should detect it as a scsi device
[07:35] <whyameye> how to I configure xorg.conf for xvideo?
[07:35] <_adam> !network-manager
[07:35] <ubotu> hmm... network-manager is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NetworkmanagerHowto
[07:35] <r00twayne> wow i feel so lost without hte forums workin heh
[07:35] <webby> actually when I booted ubuntu
[07:35] <_jason> Hahn: go to /mnt/ubuntuhd and make sure your / is mounted there (do you see a lot of files0
[07:35] <tonyyarusso> webby, Maybe that ^^ would help you mount?
[07:36] <webby> it got hung up
[07:36] <metalhedd> is ANYONE using Pure-ftpd ?
[07:36] <_jason> LNova: you are using the livecd?
[07:36] <webby> and had... drive errors. and wouldn't go forward, until I disconnected.
[07:36] <hen> Is there any way to improve the latency on the kernel? I'm getting audio skipping and mouse freeze.
[07:36] <webby> tonnyyarusso: I'm sorry, what will?
[07:36] <LNova> no, i installed it
[07:36] <_adam> hen: ide drive?
[07:36] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: would you happen to know how to make that remote desktop setting less braindead on the access control front, would you? I'd like to have it ask the remote user for the password.....this thing pops up a box (locally) that asks if the user wants to accept or refuse the remote connection
[07:36] <hen> _adam, yes
[07:36] <tonyyarusso> !tell webby about ipod
[07:36] <_adam> hen: make sure dma is turned on
[07:36] <Hahn> _jason. No, there are eight files.
[07:36] <_adam> !hdparm
[07:36] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, _adam
[07:36] <yaaar> which seems rather pointless, being that any time i want to access the desktop remotely i certainly won't be at the computer to allow myself in
[07:37] <webby> oh tony and guys listen of course I read everything before coming here.
[07:37] <CodeNinja> how do i run the UT demo?
[07:37] <_adam> hen: lookup hdparm and use that to turn on dma for your ide device
[07:37] <_jason> Hahn: output of 'df' to pastebin please
[07:37] <hen> _adam, is it, but only dma, no other better hdparm opts
[07:37] <sam_> how do u install a new splash screen under gnome?
[07:37] <_jason> ls /
[07:37] <webby> adam, I'll try that. thanks.
[07:37] <hen> _adam, I mean it is
[07:37] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, I'm still experimenting with it myself, but the tightvnc version might allow that?  I'd like to do the same thing, so let me know if you find something.
[07:37] <webby> before I do, heres my fstab:
[07:37] <cold> anyone know how to boot ubuntu from install disk with in a virtual machine ?
[07:37] <webby> "/dev/sdc2 /media/iPod vfat nosuid,noauto,nodev,rw,umask=077,gid=1000,uid=1000,user,defaults,noatime,iocharset=utf8 0 0"
[07:37] <webby> thats the ipod line
[07:38] <LNova> _jason: no, i installed it
[07:38] <yaaar> hen; just run 'hdparm -d /dev/hdX' and see if it says dma is on or off for the device
[07:38] <webby> when I try to mount/iPod it
[07:38] <webby> it writes "mount: special device /dev/sdc2 does not exist"
[07:38] <hen> _adam, it IS on.
[07:38] <webby> but its in the list.
[07:38] <Hahn> I'll be back in like ten minutes, because I have to type the output manually. (This is my Windows pc)
[07:38] <yaaar> hen; then dma is not likely your problem
[07:38] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one help me with seting up my thunderbird
[07:38] <sam_> how do you install  a splash screen under gnome/ubuntu?
[07:38] <r00twayne> how long have the forums been down for?
[07:38] <_jason> LNova: you won't be able to edit the file unless you use a livecd or boot in recovery mode (sorry you and Hahn have the same problem so I must have left that step out for you)
[07:38] <_jason> Hahn: ok wait
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> the_mr_bong_show, What aspect?
[07:39] <hen> _adam, indeed, i know the problem isn't inherent to the hardware, as I didn't have it under gentoo - although that depended on the kernel
[07:39] <webby> ok so its not dma.
[07:39] <the_mr_bong_show> yahoo and hotmail i dont jnow how to set them up
[07:39] <LNova> so you want me to boot up on live cd?
[07:39] <_jason> Hahn: just check for /dev/hda1 under the Filesystem column and tell me what it says for "mounted on"
[07:39] <sam_> ?
[07:39] <webby> so I'm not sure, I'm kind of lost here.
[07:39] <CodeNinja> i run system/Unrealtournament and it loaded the splash screen for about a second then it went away
[07:39] <yaaar> tonyyarusso: doh. i'm blind again. there's a couple of checkboxes to handle the auth mechanism on that same settings page
[07:39] <tim|mac> please, can anyone tell me how to start the second stage installation manually? mine failed because I hadn't got the network plugged in, but I fixed that and would like to restart it now, but I don't know how to do it manually. Just running base-config? Is that enough?
[07:39] <idefix_> what's the command in Synaptic to "apt-get upgrade"?
[07:39] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, Nice.
[07:39] <Hahn> _jason. /mnt/ubuntuhd
[07:40] <Nogimics> Can anyone help? root wont disable for some reason
[07:40] <sam_> how do you install a splash screen under ubuntu?
[07:40] <eirejah> hello will the xorg.conf file show my vertical and horizontal refresh rates ?
[07:40] <hen> yaaar, sorry, I thought i was still speaking to adam_
[07:40] <_jason> Hahn: ok, cd /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc
[07:40] <CodeNinja> how do i run the UT demo?
[07:40] <LNova> _Jason so you want me to boot up on live cd?
[07:40] <CodeNinja> how do i run the UT demo?
[07:40] <CodeNinja> i run system/Unrealtournament and it loaded the splash screen for about a second then it went away
[07:40] <webby> so nobody can help me?
[07:40] <_jason> LNova: sure
[07:40] <webby> I'm sure its not a very complicated problem.
[07:40] <yaaar> hen; well, i just sort of jumped in there on the same line of thought he had going....
[07:40] <LNova> ok
[07:40] <webby> the forums are down.
[07:41] <yaaar> hehe, cool. now i'm on the other computer in the garage via vnc
[07:41] <Hahn> _jason. Bash: cd: /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc: No such file or directory
[07:41] <Orborde> CodeNinja: Any errors?
[07:41] <tonyyarusso> the_mr_bong_show, Well, those might need some special stuff to be able to work with them.  Have you tried Googe / apt-cache search hotmail/yahoo?
[07:41] <sam_> how do i install a new splash screen under ubuntu/gnome
[07:41] <webby> the ipod has problems mounting in windows and ubuntu.
[07:41] <CodeNinja> nope
[07:41] <hen> yaaar, I see, but I think its not DMA
[07:41] <yaaar> need a better viewer though....the stock 'vncviewer' app is unwieldy
[07:41] <webby> its a troubled ipod. I'm sure I can fix it with just a format.
[07:41] <webby> I need to mount it, anybody?
[07:41] <jip> Hi, does anyone here has vmware 4.5 installed on breezy?
[07:41] <yaaar> hen; yeah, i agre
[07:41] <eirejah> hello will the xorg.conf file show my vertical and horizontal refresh rates ?
[07:41] <sam_> anyone?
[07:41] <CanYouHelpMePlz> eirejah: yes
[07:42] <eirejah> thanks
[07:42] <webby> bah, you guys I expected more from ubuntu IRC
[07:42] <tonyyarusso> yaaar, I had fun connecting two computers right next to each other via crossover ethernet cable, and watching my mouse make the cursor move on both.
[07:42] <ubunTux> hello
[07:42] <hen> yaaar, which is why I thought it may be a scheduling issue
[07:42] <idefix_> tonyyarusso, do you know it?
[07:42] <the_mr_bong_show> what
[07:42] <idefix_> what's the command in Synaptic to apt-get upgrade?
[07:42] <idefix_> tonyyarusso
[07:43] <jamuraa> idefix_: click the "mark all upgrades" button, I think
[07:43] <ubunTux> why do i get this message: There seems to have been a problem with the database.
[07:43] <ubunTux> Please try again by clicking the Refresh button in your web browser.
[07:43] <_jason> Hahn: ok seems like we mounted the wrong partition, do this: sudo umount /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntuhd
[07:43] <idefix_> jamuraa, but that's only one entry, isn't it?
[07:43] <ubunTux> when i go to ubuntuforums.org...
[07:43] <the_mr_bong_show> tonyyarusso do i do a search on google for apt-cache search hotmail/yahoo?
[07:43] <tonyyarusso> idefix_, What jamuraa said, then click Apply.
[07:43] <jip> I need help install problems with VMware 4.5 ...
[07:43] <ubunTux> is the website down for the moment?
[07:43] <jamuraa> idefix_: if you have the "All" category selected it will mark all the upgrades available
[07:44] <r00twayne> yes uuntuforums.org is down
[07:44] <Orborde> CodeNinja: Check their tech support, I guess.
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> the_mr_bong_show, No, something like "thunderbird hotmail yahoo".  The apt search is a separate thing.
[07:44] <Hahn> _jason. sudo: unmount: command not found
[07:44] <idefix_> does that mean that every entry that has a yellow star in the list's upgrades are marked and gotten from some server?!
[07:44] <Orborde> Hahn: It's umount
[07:44] <phreaker> Has someone had any experience with Automatix?
[07:44] <_jason> Hahn: umount not unmount
[07:44] <the_mr_bong_show> oh ok
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[07:44] <ubotu> I guess automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[07:44] <ubunTux> r00twayne, oh! do you know how long would it take?
[07:44] <nellolux> ciao a tutti
[07:44] <tonyyarusso> phreaker, ^^
[07:44] <Hahn> _jason. That explains it.
[07:44] <fsf_rocks> mr-bong-show -- sounds like a fun show! =)
[07:45] <fsf_rocks> jk
[07:45] <phreaker> !automatix
[07:45] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[07:45] <phreaker> nice.
[07:45] <CodeNinja> Orborde: not much in the line of that
[07:45] <fsf_rocks> No laughin alowed in here!
[07:45] <Hahn> _jason. umount: /mnt/ubuntuhd: device is busy
[07:45] <_jason> Hahn: 'cd' and try again
[07:46] <witless> in installed win32codecs and still get this error playing a .ram stream:  Win32 LoadLibrary failed to load: avisynth.dll, /usr/lib/win32/avisynth.dll, /usr/local/lib/win32/avisynth.dll
[07:46] <idefix_> why does my PC think for ten seconds when I click on one of the four sections status search custom buttons?
[07:46] <Hahn> _jason. mount: you must specify a filesystem type
[07:46] <ubunTux> why is libdivx4linux not available on breezy anymore?
[07:47] <CodeNinja> UT demo is installed in /usr/share/games/utdemo
[07:47] <Nogimics> Whats the quickest way to reboot via the command line?
[07:47] <Madpilot> idefix_: Synaptic isn't all that fast, even on a fairly powerful computer...
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Why doesn't Gnome have an fstab manager like xfce?
[07:48] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - u runnin a client or server?
[07:48] <tonyyarusso> Nogimics, sudo shutdown -r now
[07:48] <CodeNinja> just the game
[07:48] <jamuraa> I want to delete all evolution accounts / preferences using the command line, is this possible?
[07:48] <fsf_rocks> ah ok
[07:48] <_jason> Hahn: mount -t ext3 /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntuhd
[07:48] <ToM-> Evening, I'm having trouble installing ubuntu to my Sata drive
[07:48] <Nogimics> thanks tonyyarusso
[07:48] <LNova> Jason?
[07:48] <_jason> LNova: yep
[07:48] <CodeNinja> and it still aint workin
[07:48] <LNova> I'm on the live
[07:49] <_jason> LNova: okay, do you know which partition your ubuntu / is on?
[07:49] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - 2004?
[07:49] <ToM-> Does anyone have experience on installing Ubuntu to a drive that's connected to Nvidia's Nforce2 Ide controller?
[07:49] <LNova> i think it's hd1
[07:49] <CodeNinja> GOTY
[07:49] <frazmanw> I have used linux for years, always wondered why num-lock is turned off be linux (regardless of distro) is there a way to have it stay turned on (as my bios has it set)?
[07:49] <phreaker> numlockx
[07:49] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - but its GOY 2004?
[07:50] <CodeNinja> no, the original
[07:50] <_jason> LNova: hda1?
[07:50] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - o
[07:50] <LNova> yeah, i think so
[07:50] <frazmanw> phreaker, numlockx? what do I do with that?
[07:50] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - check out http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/index.php
[07:50] <LNova> is there any way to check?
[07:50] <Dr_Willis> i cant ever recall using the Numlock :p
[07:51] <_jason> LNova: yeah you can look at /boot/grub/menu.lst but that would require you to reboot
[07:51] <ToM-> anyone?
[07:51] <LNova> hahaha
[07:51] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - is your machine old? why not use U2k4 instead if you are doing the demo
[07:51] <_jason> LNova: do 'sudo fdisk -l' and see if that helps you
[07:51] <CodeNinja> ooh i got an error
[07:51] <CodeNinja> cp: cannot stat `/home/matt/.utconf': No such file or directory
[07:51] <CodeNinja> Aborted
[07:51] <_adam> does anyone use vpnc? :)
[07:51] <Hahn> _jason. mount: wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hda2, missing codepage or other error (aren't you trying to mount an extended partition, instead of some logical partition inside?) In some cases useful info is in syslog -try dmesg | tail  or so
[07:51] <_adam> or network manager
[07:52] <CodeNinja> now i can do something
[07:52] <tonyyarusso> Answered a previous question I've had:  How to easily view external IP? gdesklets.
[07:52] <_jason> Hahn: erm ok I've never mounted an LVM volume you seem to have, not sure how it works.  try: sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/ubuntuhd
[07:52] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - check out http://www.ataricommunity.com/forums/
[07:52] <Madpilot> frazmanw: you install the numlockx package, then set it up to run on boot (but I can't remember how I set it up, it was months ago...)
[07:53] <hen> hmm, the skipping does seem to occur in HD IO
[07:53] <_adam> hen: yea its a drive issue
[07:53] <frazmanw> Madpilot, tks
[07:53] <_adam> hen: not sure the best settings to use with hdparm
[07:53] <Hahn> _jason. mount: you must specify the dilesystem type
[07:53] <Hahn> *filesystem rather
[07:53] <_jason> Hahn: it's time for me to google... see if you can find something as well
[07:54] <hen> _adam, I have the same settings I had under gentoo, but still gettin skipping (-m 16 -c 1)
[07:54] <_jason> anyone know how to mount an LVM volume, trying to help Hahn edit /etc/hosts with the livecd
[07:54] <hen> _adam, of course with dma on
[07:54] <_adam> hen: hmmmm
[07:54] <_adam> hen: is this a custom compiled kernel?
[07:54] <hen> _adam, I'm using the 686 kernel
[07:55] <thechris> _jason: are there devices in /dev/mapper ?
[07:55] <_adam> hen: any processes in d state
[07:55] <_adam> hen: what does vmstat show
[07:55] <thechris> because udev loves to mess up lvm...
[07:55] <hen> _adam, sorry, I'm not sure what I'm looking for
[07:56] <martin__> Hi i tring to install myth tv loged in as sudo using command sudo apt-get install mythtv and it say it can find package myth tv help
[07:56] <_adam> hen: ps aux |grep D
[07:56] <_adam> look under stat column
[07:56] <tonyyarusso> I keep getting this in my system mail, what should I do?: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[07:56] <_adam> hen: vmstat look under 'r' column what # is displayed
[07:56] <_jason> thechris: no idea, I've never used lvm.  All I usually do is mount /dev/hda1 /mount/point and am ready to go.  Is it possible to do something similar if LVM is used?
[07:56] <CodeNinja> fsf_rocks: i dont like 2004 as much
[07:56] <hen> _adam, 1
[07:57] <fsf_rocks> codeninja - i see - i am a u2k4 junkie
[07:57] <_adam> hen: ok so you dont have any waiting processes
[07:57] <the_mr_bong_show> can some one help me by step by step to flash my bios or to update my bios
[07:57] <thechris> _jason: yeah.  udev should make devices in /dev/mapper/volumename
[07:57] <mikere> Where would be a good channel to ask how to get OpenOffice to connect to a mysql database on a Ubuntu box?
[07:57] <fsf_rocks> the-mr-bong >> what motherboard vendor?
[07:57] <_adam> hen: you can run a performance test on your box using IOZone
[07:57] <the_mr_bong_show> its  a hp
[07:57] <_jason> thechris: do you mind walking Hahn through that process?
[07:57] <Bizzeh> woo
[07:58] <_adam> hen: that should give you an idea of how your I/O is
[07:58] <_adam> and would tell you if it that is the problem
[07:58] <fsf_rocks> you need to go hp.com and lookup your model and find the support -- downloads section
[07:58] <Bizzeh> 64bit ubuntu, full hardware accelerated ati support, and a smp-k8 optimised kernel :D
[07:58] <martin__>  Hi i tring to install myth tv loged in as sudo using command sudo apt-get install mythtv and it say it can find package myth tv can anyone help
[07:58] <thechris> _jason: ok, is hahn here?
[07:58] <Bizzeh> on top of all that, my wireless works
[07:58] <Hahn> I'm right here.
[07:58] <hen> _adam, do i need to install that? is it in the a normal repository
[07:58] <thechris> Hahn: ls /dev/mapper
[07:58] <fsf_rocks> the-mr-bong -- instructions will be in that section
[07:58] <_adam> hen: not sure if iozone is provided in any of the repo's
[07:59] <funkyHat> Bizzeh, that's how it should be :)
[07:59] <the_mr_bong_show> i bought my pc from a friend
[07:59] <Bizzeh> how can i switch from gnome to kde though, without getting a kubuntu disk?
[07:59] <_jason> Bizzeh: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <chadwick|359> sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <Trackilizer> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[07:59] <fsf_rocks> rgr
[07:59] <ToM-> Does anyone have experience on installing Ubuntu to a drive that's connected to Nvidia's Nforce2 Ide controller?
[07:59] <chadwick|359> haha
[08:00] <Hahn> thechris. The output says: "casper-cow casper-snapshot control Ububtu-root Ubuntu-swap_l"
[08:00] <mikere> Bizzeh after you do what chadwick|359 says, you can select kde from session button on login screen
[08:00] <_adam> hen: http://www.linuxtroubleshooting.com/wiki/index.php?title=Main_Page#systat.2Fsar
[08:00] <funkyHat> ToM-, the nForce2 motherboard?
[08:00] <Madpilot> ToM-: I've got an Nforce2-using motherboard, and both IDE & SATA drives just work...
[08:00] <thechris> Hahn: i assume 4 of these are LVM volumes?
[08:00] <_adam> may want to check that for more information regarding performance
[08:00] <ToM-> funkyHat: Asus motherboard
[08:00] <Hahn> thechris. No clue.
[08:00] <Bizzeh> thanks guys :D
[08:00] <Bizzeh> much love :)
[08:00] <Nogimics> Can someone help me please? Root wont disable
[08:00] <Bizzeh> bbl
[08:00] <pixelfairy> so, im doing the cinelerra install (from the .org) and it talks about the debian repositorys, would i want to uncomment that before trying to get mplayer and all its goodies?
[08:00] <thechris> Hahn: did you install ubuntu yourself?
[08:01] <_jason> Nogimics: what do you mean?
[08:01] <ToM-> When I'm looking at Installers partitioning program it doesn't see inside the drive.. the drive has windows xp and suse linux at the moment
[08:01] <Hahn> thechris. Yes.
[08:01] <LNova> _Jason?
[08:01] <Nogimics> If I type sudo su root
[08:01] <chadwick|359> Actually, debconf will ask you if you want to use kdm or gdm, and which one you want to use as default, if i'm not mistaken
[08:01] <thechris> Hahn: type mount -- are any of these 4 mounted?
[08:01] <Nogimics> I takes me into root
[08:01] <Nogimics> when it should be disbaled
[08:01] <pixelfairy> Nogimics: type exit to get your shell back
[08:01] <pixelfairy> as a normal user
[08:01] <_jason> Nogimics: of course, you used sudo.  See if you can just do 'su'
[08:02] <Hahn> thechris: casper-snapshot is there.
[08:02] <hen> _adam, you pointed me to systat. Is that something I should look at?
[08:02] <_adam> hen: systat is basically a package of tools
[08:02] <_adam> that contain sar, vmstat etc
[08:02] <thechris> Hahn: ok, well in that case casper-snapshot is mounted somewhere.
[08:02] <ToM-> So I guess I'd need to enable some drivers during boot, but I can't fid any drivers
[08:02] <_jason> thechris: he's on a livecd trying to mount his regular ubuntu root (don't know if i told you this)
[08:02] <mikere> Anyone know how to create an odbc data source in linux?
[08:03] <LNova> _jason?
[08:03] <_jason> LNova: yes
[08:03] <LNova> it is hda2
[08:03] <Nogimics> ok _jason that does not let me. What does the sudo command do then? how come it shows as being in root when using sudo su root ?
[08:03] <Madpilot> ToM-: is this some sort of RAID array, or just ine IDE HD?
[08:03] <hen> _adam, i'm not convinced its an IO issue anymore
[08:03] <_adam> hen: how come?
[08:03] <pixelfairy> Nogimics: try sudo -s when you want a root shell
[08:03] <thechris> Hahn: ah -- try:  mkdir /mnt/ubuntu; mount /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root /mnt/ubuntu
[08:03] <Madpilot> Nogimics: have you read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo ?
[08:03] <ToM-> Madpilot: I do have raid possibility, but it's not in use
[08:03] <owner> nogimics, sudo -i or sudo su creates a root shell for your account
[08:03] <fsf_rocks> read?
[08:03] <_jason> Nogimics: it's better if you do 'sudo -i' to get a root prompt
[08:04] <hen> _adam, well, i get skips with apparently no IO
[08:04] <_adam> interesting
[08:04] <fsf_rocks> manuals?
[08:04] <CodeNinja> gd error (glide): Can't find or access Banshee/V3 board
[08:04] <CodeNinja> Aborted
[08:04] <CodeNinja> thats my erroe
[08:04] <Madpilot> ToM-: then your HDDs should just work, AFAIK... not sure why they aren't for you
[08:04] <tonyyarusso> Do gdesklets automatically run at login?  How can I make them if not?
[08:04] <pixelfairy> Nogimics: man sudo and read that page
[08:04] <Hahn> My asshole mother is dragging me into the shower.
[08:04] <martin__> can anyone help with my myth tv install
[08:04] <Hahn> Back soon.
[08:04] <ToM-> that's what I'm wondering
[08:04] <_adam> wtf?
[08:04] <_jason> LNova: on th livecd: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda2/ /mnt/ubuntuhd
[08:04] <mikere> Hahn: you shower with your mother?
[08:05] <hen> _adam, as I said earlier, i have had latency issues in the past, only solving them with a custom kernel
[08:05] <fsf_rocks> lol
[08:05] <tonyyarusso> Well that's a disturbing picture.
[08:05] <fsf_rocks> very
[08:05] <_adam> hen: there could be some pre-empt options in the kernel that are not set
[08:05] <ToM-> Madpilot: I'll try the live cd later and try to find the right drivers
[08:05] <CodeNinja> one i think i'll ignore
[08:05] <zalakain> hi
[08:05] <hen> i'll look into it
[08:05] <fsf_rocks> rgr
[08:05] <SkrotFFS> Hi. I'm trying to install ubuntu on a Acer Travelmate 3000-series (anyone got one btw?), and there seems to be problem with the sound. I've read a couple of webpages about it, and it appears that the problem lies with APIC. I want to be sure however, how do I find out if the problems (alsa does not discover my audi card)  are APIC-related?
[08:05] <owner> yikes hahn
[08:05] <hen> what package contains the kernel soure?
[08:05] <owner> i didnt know kids used ubuntu
[08:05] <owner> that young
[08:05] <owner> hehe
[08:05] <_adam> hen: i know once you go sata you dont have to worry about dma, etc anymore :)
[08:05] <zalakain> how can i know the processes that are using ppp0 interface?
[08:05] <_adam> hen: you can get a cheapo controller too
[08:06] <tonyyarusso> hen, linux-source-($uname -r)
[08:06] <CodeNinja> owner: edubuntu
[08:06] <CodeNinja> lol
[08:06] <mikere> SkrotFFS, hmm... you have to pass a kernel parameter of noapic and/or nolapic for stuff like that for most linux distros.  not sure how to set it up in ubuntu tho
[08:06] <hen> _adam, not for a laptop I can't ;)
[08:06] <owner> ya lol
[08:06] <_adam> hen: ahh
[08:06] <SkrotFFS> mikere: I've actually got it installed, I boot with noapic, but I wan't to know if it's apic's fault sound is not working or not :>
[08:06] <_adam> hen: there may be some kernel options you can pass in grub
[08:07] <_adam> hen: like noapic
[08:07] <_adam> hen: does your system respond better with the adapter cord plugged in?
[08:07] <hen> _adam, I'll take a look at the kernel. Is there anything I need to know about that is ubuntu specific in installing a new kernel?
[08:07] <mikere> SkrotFFS, ah, sorry, no idea.  Using an Asus Z71V lappy here and I got lucky and stuff just seems to work (had a bit of work getting wpa-psk working is all)
[08:07] <owner> !edubuntu
[08:07] <ubotu> I heard edubuntu is an Ubuntu version suitable for classroom use. See http://edubuntu.org or visit #edubuntu
[08:07] <CodeNinja> so do i accually have to have a good graphics card to play UT of ran i change a config somwhere.  my card ran it in xp
[08:07] <_adam> hen: not sure ive only been running it a couple of days ;)
[08:08] <SkrotFFS> mikere: Most of the stuff works here also :)
[08:08] <_adam> im a fedora/rh person normally
[08:08] <_adam> :D
[08:08] <owner> codeninja what card do you have
[08:08] <owner> ati or nvidia i assume
[08:08] <hen> _adam, Its skipping both times
[08:08] <SkrotFFS> But does anyone know how to identify apic-problems?
[08:08] <CodeNinja> oh no owner
[08:08] <CodeNinja> i have the fabled
[08:08] <_adam> hen: hmm ok that could rule out power management problems then
[08:08] <CodeNinja> the wonderfull
[08:08] <CodeNinja> integrated
[08:09] <CodeNinja> intel EXTREME integrated
[08:09] <owner> ok
[08:09] <SkrotFFS> hm, brb
[08:09] <owner> i think they do release linux drivers
[08:09] <CodeNinja> oh the sarcasm
[08:09] <hen> gah! crappy skipping
[08:09] <_adam> hen: :(
[08:09] <CodeNinja> owner, do i need one?
[08:09] <CodeNinja> everything else works fine
[08:09] <owner> well it will be better than vesa
[08:09] <owner> if thats what you are using
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> How should one go about encouraging TI to release a Linux driver for their card readers (for laptops)?
[08:10] <LiNova> _jason?
[08:10] <CodeNinja> tuxracer runs without a skip
[08:10] <_adam> tonyyarusso: praying
[08:10] <fsf_rocks> tpmuuarrispp = make a case via email or call them
[08:10] <tonyyarusso> _adam, Well, I guess that's one way.
[08:10] <owner> tony, keep phoning them up
[08:10] <witless> mplayer http://209.144.51.202/ram/feature/0106/btv010706_4.ram  <-- someone do that and tell me if it works
[08:10] <hen> _adam, does the kernel source package come with the correct .config?
[08:11] <_adam> hen: good question im not sure honestly
[08:11] <_adam> wouldnt hurt to download and check if you got the space
[08:11] <tonyyarusso> owner, Does that generally seem to be more effective then e-mails?
[08:11] <owner> it doesnt work for me witless
[08:11] <_jason> LNova: you there?
[08:11] <owner> mplayer cant play any real media for  me
[08:11] <witless> owner: avisynth error
[08:11] <fsf_rocks> tpmuuarrispp -- most firms dont really understand the business opportunity with open sourcing thier stuff
[08:11] <owner> but real player can
[08:11] <_adam> hen: i think there should be a copy of the config in /boot
[08:11] <owner> no it just stops
[08:11] <_adam> you could copy over to the kernel source
[08:11] <hen> _adam, yeah there is
[08:12] <_adam> hen: that would work too ;)
[08:12] <_jason> witless: you asked this before... we told you it works
[08:12] <fsf_rocks> tpmuuarrispp -- I should say most traditional "closed source" firms dont really understand the business opportunity with open sourcing thier stuff
[08:12] <witless> mplayer?  i get avisynth error, and i've installed w32 codecs
[08:12] <owner> they dont need to open source
[08:12] <owner> they can provide closed linux drivers
[08:12] <liam_> can anyone tell me how to change from gstreamer to the w32codecs?
[08:13] <fsf_rocks> owner - true .. but not optimal
[08:13] <fsf_rocks> owner =)
[08:13] <owner> if they can make it for macs they can make it for linux
[08:13] <owner> imho
[08:13] <_jason> owner: mplayer -playlist that_url_u_pasted
[08:13] <fsf_rocks> owner agreed
[08:14] <owner> its downloading jason
[08:14] <magsSA> good evening :) anybody got a moment to help someone intrested in abuntu/linux please
[08:14] <_jason> owner: you can pass '-cache 50' for it to cache less if you have a good connection
[08:14] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, Just go ahead and ask your question.
[08:15] <owner> it doesnt play well still jason
[08:15] <owner> the sound is like 10x too fast
[08:15] <MachineScrew> can any one here help me get my server on the Internet
[08:15] <Chris_Tucker> im probably the 3 trillionth person to ask this but.. whats up with the forums? and when can they be expected to be back up?
[08:15] <gaz-> anyone recommend a good ftpd server
[08:15] <fsf_rocks> gaz- vsftpd
[08:15] <magsSA> tonyyarusso i have never worked with abuntu/linux where will i find help to learn how to work with it ?
[08:15] <coolboy> gaz: vsftpd or proftpd
[08:16] <hafedh> hi
[08:16] <gaz-> coolboy,  they easy to configure?
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, Right here, my friend.
[08:16] <witless> alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.132 msecs. resetting stream0.4% 6 0 15%
[08:16] <witless>   over and over and over...  stuttering output....
[08:16] <coolboy> gaz: yep
[08:16] <Chris_Tucker> magsSA, probably the forums.. when the work
[08:16] <fsf_rocks> gaz - both are pretty simple
[08:16] <_jason> owner: yeah that happens with me too, read 'man mplayer' there are some things you can do but I don't know enough about it.  You can try #mplayer too
[08:16] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, The wiki is also good.
[08:16] <Madpilot> magsSA: the Ubuntu wiki is a good place to start: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UserDocumentation
[08:16] <magsSA> ok where will i find the most patient teacher
[08:16] <MachineScrew> can any one here help me get my server on the Internet
[08:17] <aLPHa_LeaK> what kind of server? apache?
[08:17] <MachineScrew> i have a dyndns account
[08:17] <owner> i think kmplayer is way better than mplayer
[08:17] <MachineScrew> aLPHa_LeaK, ya
[08:17] <owner> too bad it doesnt have a mozilla plugin
[08:17] <fsf_rocks> gaz - check out http://www.howtoforge.net/taxonomy/term/35
[08:17] <_jason> owner: kmplayer doesn't get out of sync ?
[08:17] <magsSA> thank u :) will go peek at the wiki
[08:17] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, Well, if you're reading the wiki or forums, that would be yourself, because you can read at whatever pace you want.
[08:17] <owner> i didnt notice that problem with it jason
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, When you get stuck, this channel is pretty friendly to new users.
[08:18] <MachineScrew> whats a good port for apache
[08:18] <owner> it works really well with konqueror
[08:18] <magsSA> thanks :) have a wonderful day
[08:18] <Chris_Tucker> magsSA, the most patient teacher of linux would probably be a good book... allthough there are less patient people around that save you that money ;) like us.. ask a question.. it will get answered by someone.
[08:18] <MachineScrew> other than 80
[08:18] <magsSA> lol ok im sure ill be back soon
[08:18] <magsSA> bye all
[08:18] <tonyyarusso> magsSA, We await your return.
[08:18] <robotic> did anyone here install ubuntu from an ISO image on a hard disk before ?
[08:18] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- why?
[08:19] <ubuntu> list
[08:19] <tonyyarusso> robotic, No, how do you do that?
[08:19] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- you on an ISP that blocks 80?
[08:19] <MachineScrew> fsf_rocks, I am trying to get my apache web server on the net and my router uses 80
[08:19] <Chris_Tucker> im probably the 3 trillionth person to ask this but.. whats up with the forums? and when can they be expected to be back up?
[08:19] <MachineScrew> fsf_rocks, and yes
[08:19] <witless> finally, -playlist and "srate=48000" in mplayer.conf fixed it
[08:19] <witless> so far at least
[08:20] <MachineScrew> my ISP blocks 80
[08:20] <nishant> Hey Ubuntu Using PPl!!!!
[08:20] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- ok -- 8080 will work or reconfigure your router to use another port
[08:20] <robotic> tonyyarusso: first copy the image to another partition,then get the necessary files for that kind of install from the net, then some other stuff..if you2RE interested I'll look up the urls
[08:20] <MachineScrew> ok
[08:20] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- which router?
[08:20] <MachineScrew> Belkin
[08:20] <glacious> whew.  so xorg is fixed.  but i still can't change my refresh rate.
[08:20] <Amro> ive got a problem, ubuntu shows the round cursor then keeps switching between that and whatever was displayed before startup
[08:21] <glacious> i even specified 1280x1024@60 in the dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, still not working =(
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> robotic, Would be fun to know if it's not too much trouble.
[08:21] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- ok I don't know if you can but you can use apache default 80 shared to the outside world by setting up firewall rules
[08:21] <owner> glacious what video card drivers are you using
[08:21] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- check out the belkin docs
[08:21] <robotic> tonyyarusso: hold on...
[08:21] <glacious> owner: ati
[08:21] <gnomefreak> Chris_Tucker, read the /topic it has information that you might need
[08:21] <owner> type fglrxinfo in a terminal
[08:21] <owner> see what it says
[08:21] <tonyyarusso> I keep getting this in my system mail, what should I do?: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[08:21] <glacious> owner: it's giving my monitor 85hz in gnome control panel, and lists ALL resolutions, not just the ones specified in xorg.conf
[08:22] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how do i check which kernel i have?
[08:22] <_adam> uname -r
[08:22] <owner> uname -a devil
[08:22] <owner> or -r
[08:22] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cool
[08:22] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- check out www.IPCop.org its a linux firewall
[08:22] <glacious> owner: i do not have that program
[08:22] <owner> glacious are you using fglrx or ati
[08:23] <owner> because fglrx are the official ati drivers
[08:23] <glacious> owner: my monitor auto-throttles the refresh back to like 75 or 60hz, and displays an error in gnome/xorg.  but my desktop looks fine behind it.  i just need my video card to stop sending it a high refresh.
[08:23] <glacious> owner: ati
[08:23] <Chris_Tucker> gnomefreak, it doesnt.
[08:23] <hen> _adam, it doesn't have preempt on
[08:23] <owner> glacious try using fglrx
[08:23] <gnomefreak> ok sorry he pulled it out today :(
[08:23] <owner> ati drivers didnt even work at all for me
[08:23] <gnomefreak> the ubuntuforums have been down a few days
[08:23] <glacious> owner: its an ATI Raedon 9000/9500, with a 19" LCD monitor I want 1280@1024@75hz
[08:23] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how can i do something like You can install it with : apt-get install speedtouch
[08:24] <glacious> owner: i have nothing that is fg*
[08:24] <[dEvIL-bOY] > when i am not online?
[08:24] <owner> you have to install them
[08:24] <owner> there is a guide on the forums but the forums are down
[08:24] <tonyyarusso> [dEvIL-bOY] , Some things are available on the CD, otherwise you're out of luck.
[08:24] <glacious> owner: i've gone through the guide to chaning refresh many times, even have done modelines.
[08:24] <Amro> anyone have a solution to my prob?
[08:25] <glacious> owner: but no matter what i change in xorg.conf, it ALWAYS shows just 85hz, and ALL resolutions.
[08:25] <glacious> owner: when in xorg/gnome
[08:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but would it be possible to download that package and put it on a usb pen and then install it?
[08:25] <Hahn> Okay. I'm back.
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> [dEvIL-bOY] , If you know what you'll want later, absolutely.
[08:25] <hen> does anyone know, if I install a new kernel, do I have compile my own nvidia modules?
[08:25] <glacious> owner: ahh, so you mean install and use different drivers.
[08:25] <owner> usually hen
[08:25] <tonyyarusso> [dEvIL-bOY] , Make sure to grab its dependencies too.
[08:25] <glacious> owner: any idea what apt-get install to do to get them?
[08:25] <owner> yes glacious
[08:25] <Hahn> Thanks for your help, but I'll just reinstall Ubuntu. What filesystem type should I use this time?
[08:26] <hen> owner, cheers
[08:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > any ideas how to do that?
[08:26] <owner> they are in the restricted kernel module glacious
[08:26] <gnomefreak> Hahn, ext3
[08:26] <owner> and search for fglrx in synpatic
[08:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > trying to install a usb modem on ubuntu
[08:26] <owner> synaptic
[08:26] <Hahn> I haven't amassed anything important in the three days it's been installed.
[08:26] <tonyyarusso> [dEvIL-bOY] , http://packages.ubuntu.com/ will get you to whatever you need.
[08:26] <Hahn> I'll be going now.
[08:26] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cool
[08:27] <glacious> owner: ok, for my ATI card i want fglrx.  then just change 'ati' to 'fglrx' in xorg.conf and i should be good?
[08:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cheers tonyyarusso going there now
[08:27] <owner> yes you can do that glacious
[08:27] <MachineScrew> how can i tell dyndns to look at my apache server I poked some holes in my firewall
[08:27] <coolboy> how do I open wmv files?
[08:27] <glacious> owner: ok, ty.  i will try it out then =)
[08:27] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- you need to check your firewall docs
[08:27] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- you need to check your firewall at www.belkin.com
[08:28] <owner> im using fglrx at 1280x1024@60hz
[08:28] <tonyyarusso> !tell coolboy about w32codecs
[08:28] <MachineScrew> fsf_rocks, i already canged the ports
[08:28] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- they you can setup dynamic dns
[08:28] <glacious> owner: fglrx-control?  is that in in synaptic?
[08:28] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- they you can setup dynamic dns if your Firewall supports it
[08:28] <blackthorne> hi
[08:28] <owner> yes
[08:28] <blackthorne> i need real help, here
[08:28] <owner> you have install the ones for your kernel
[08:28] <glacious> owner: awesome.  i'll go try it right now.  thank you again sir.
[08:28] <robotic> tonyyarusso: the way I installed from an ISO image is...
[08:28] <owner> np
[08:29] <robotic> tonyyarusso: I had a partition with windows and another with debian sarge...
[08:29] <gnomefreak> blackthorne, if you dont tell us what you need help with we cant help
[08:29] <blackthorne> i need to know with some degree of trust how much time does an ubuntu default instalation takes?
[08:29] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu
[08:29] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- or you can run a dyn dns client on your linux box
[08:29] <sedat> and try to connect it with pserver
[08:29] <tonyyarusso> blackthorne, What kind of net connection?
[08:29] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...so I get the ISO image of breezy and the files at http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/breezy/main/installer-i386/current//images/hd-media/...
[08:29] <blackthorne> tonyyarusso: i have the cd at my side
[08:29] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:29] <lukus001> does anyone know how to set the port to use to join a channel
[08:30] <lukus001> in xchat that is
[08:30] <blackthorne> this is really important, try to be precise...
[08:30] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...and then put them in for example c:\ubuntu...
[08:30] <gnomefreak> blackthorne, it depends on your pc and cdrom speed but normally around 1 -1/2 hrs
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> blackthorne, It will try to get stuff from online too, I'm not sure what happens if you do it CD only (never tried).
[08:30] <blackthorne> ok
[08:30] <tonyyarusso> robotic, Following so far.
[08:30] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:30] <blackthorne> tonyyarusso: my connection is ok. 16 mb DSL
[08:30] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...then boot into debian and modify my menu.lst to include the following:...
[08:31] <blackthorne> one more question i will also need to install cedega
[08:31] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, (blackthorne) That much you think?  Mine have been more like 45 minutes.
[08:31] <blackthorne> does synaptic allow to do it ?
[08:31] <gnomefreak> lukus001, it should connect through 6667 by default
[08:31] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:31] <gnomefreak> tonyyarusso, mine takes about 45 mins too but other people have said thiers takes longer
[08:31] <martin__> hi can anyone help me myth tv wont install on my pc
[08:31] <tonyyarusso> gnomefreak, Ah.
[08:32] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:32] <gnomefreak> so im being on safe side :)
[08:32] <blackthorne> is it possible to install cedega on Ubuntu using synaptic?
[08:32] <gee> question without a quick answer on google... how easy is it to get ubuntu to do a ntp sync *after* launching pcmcia? i'm using a pcmcia network card.
[08:32] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...title ubuntu <newline> kernel (hd0,0)/ubuntu/vmlinuz root=/dev/ram0 <newline> initrd (hd0,0)/ubuntu/initrd.gz...
[08:32] <gnomefreak> blackthorne, i don think so i think you have to download and install it froma site
[08:32] <coolboy> how do I play a .wav file?
[08:32] <MachineScrew> is it possible to change my default apache dir
[08:32] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...and then select "ubuntu" from grub at next boot...
[08:33] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- YES -- see apache documentation
[08:33] <mwe> coolboy: aplay foobar.wav is one way
[08:33] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- YES -- see apache documentation -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/
[08:33] <blackthorne> sorry for so many questions. Could anyone point out a site with a working pre-compiled version of cedega for ubuntu ?
[08:33] <robotic> tonyyarusso:...BUT the thing is, I never get to choose which packets to install; the installer jumps straight to the language selection...
[08:33] <MachineScrew> fsf_rocks, I know it is i just want the quick answer yes then where
[08:33] <tonyyarusso> robotic, That's strange.
[08:34] <gnomefreak> !cedega
[08:34] <ubotu> from memory, cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[08:34] <robotic> tonyyarusso: indeed :)
[08:34] <Seveas> blackthorne, such a thing would be illegal
[08:34] <coolboy> mwe what do I do?
[08:34] <owner> cedega had a free trial
[08:34] <owner> you can look on their website
[08:34] <gnomefreak> blackthorne, ^^^ that is how you would obtain cedega
[08:34] <mwe> coolboy: type aplay file.wav in a terminal
[08:34] <coolboy> k thx
[08:34] <tonyyarusso> robotic, Might consider making !isoinstall?
[08:35] <zerdest21> alo
[08:35] <blackthorne> Seveas: is it illegal to compile it ?
[08:35] <mwe> coolboy: or use your favorite media player
[08:35] <blackthorne> i am not sure about cedega but it was possible to do it in winex
[08:35] <robotic> tonyyarusso: how ? where ?
[08:35] <Mr> hey, can anyone here help me with compiling a program, the ubuntu wiki was less then helpfull
[08:35] <sedat> is there anybody have ever installed cvsd on ubuntu and try to connect it with pserver
[08:35] <owner> i think they only have the source available for the older version of cedega
[08:36] <eugman> Mr d you haVE BUILD-ESSENTIAL
[08:36] <mwe> Mr: install "build-essential". then ./configure && make && sudo make install
[08:36] <eugman> ACK CAPS
[08:36] <Mr> roger that.
[08:36] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- YES -- see apache documentation -- http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#documentroot
[08:36] <Seveas> blackthorne, it is illegal to distribute compiled versions
[08:36] <gnomefreak> Mr once it is unpacked open the new file and read the README or INSTALL files
[08:36] <coolboy> mwe i get this error: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:36] <mwe> Mr: or use checkinstall instead of sudo make install
[08:36] <mwe> Mr: for integration with apt
[08:37] <mwe> coolboy: is your sound working at all?
[08:37] <fsf_rocks> machinescrew -- you gotta read the docs - people can give you simple answers all you want but if dont read it you will not know
[08:37] <jo> Bonsoir
[08:37] <coolboy> mwe yes it's working and i can play mp3's  ogg's and so on
[08:37] <Delvien> What games run good on Cedega?
[08:37] <blackthorne> Seveas: i understand. Illegal to distribute but not illegal to use it, i guess.
[08:37] <Jeeves2001> Hello all,
[08:37] <jo> Quelqu'un pour m'aider ?
[08:38] <eugman> !cedga
[08:38] <ubotu> eugman: What?
[08:38] <Seveas> !fr
[08:38] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[08:38] <eugman> !cedega
[08:38] <ubotu> hmm... cedega is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Cedega and for a list of working games see http://www.transgaming.org/gamesdb or #cedega or http://www.frankscorner.org/
[08:38] <paulproteus> jo: Tu serais mieux aide a #ubuntu-fr
[08:38] <coolboy> mwe: know what i have to doN
[08:38] <coolboy> ?
[08:38] <eugman> oh it just lists game that work nvm
[08:38] <blue-frog> blackthorne, you have to pay each month to use cedega (except with the cvs version
[08:38] <tonyyarusso> I'm glad someone can recognize which language people are looking for...
[08:39] <coolboy> some one elso know: when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:39] <Mr> mwe: how do i do the ./configure command, in my terminal?
[08:40] <cold> anyone know how to boot ubuntu from the install disk ?
[08:40] <RobinL> ubuntuforums.org... doomed?
[08:40] <glacious> owner: hey...
[08:40] <glacious> owner: i'd just like to thank you, so very much.
[08:40] <mwe> Mr: right. in the source dir
[08:40] <eugman> tony you don't need to speak a language to recognize it
[08:40] <mwe> Mr: Read README for further info
[08:40] <blackthorne> well
[08:40] <Mr> mwe: whenever i do ./configure, i get no such file or directory
[08:40] <glacious> owner: i've spent many hours in here on and the web searching for the past week and a half, and your solution worked perfectly, the first time.
[08:40] <blackthorne> i will try something else, then to get cedega
[08:40] <tonyyarusso> eugman, Well, no, but I'm not so great on that front either.
[08:40] <glacious> mwe: i fixed the refresh =)   Ubuntu here i come.
[08:40] <blackthorne> thanks all
[08:41] <mwe> glacious: oh how?
[08:41] <coolboy> some one elso know: when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:41] <owner> np glacious
[08:41] <robotic> !isoinstall
[08:41] <ubotu> robotic: What?
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> To modify then:
[08:41] <eugman> mr are you in the right directory?
[08:41] <eugman> you have cd first you know that right?
[08:41] <nuller> Howdy...
[08:41] <mwe> glacious: what did you do to fix it?
[08:41] <Mr> eugman: the directory which the files desired to be compiled are
[08:41] <tonyyarusso> eugman, How's that?
[08:42] <immolo> Heya, Does anyone here know how to setup an ntl cable modem on linux?
[08:42] <LNova> Is _jason here?
[08:42] <coolboy> some one elso know: when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:42] <glacious> mwe: stopped using 'ati', and now i use fglrx
[08:42] <aLPHa_LeaK> Mr, maaybe try ./Configure ?
[08:42] <mwe> glacious: oh
[08:42] <mwe> glacious: then the modelines work now?
[08:42] <Mr> alpha_leak:no luck, still no such file or directory
[08:42] <nuller> I've installed and compiled ndiswrapper but modprobe ndiswrapper always gives me "module ndiswrapper not found"
[08:43] <glacious> mwe: owner told me to install fglrx-control, then i used it's configuration program, it wrote me a nice new xorg.conf, and everything works fine.  All refreshes, all resolutions i selected, all in there, and work in xorg/gnome
[08:43] <eugman> my last two lines were to mr.  And I'm an american too can I can at least tell if something is german french or spanish. of course I can't tell portugese from spanish
[08:43] <coolboy>  when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:43] <glacious> mwe: never even made a modeline, just ran the fglrx config, instead of the xorg one.  it made it's own xorg.conf and works beautifully.
[08:43] <mwe> glacious: so the "ati" driver just ignores your settings and uses the refresh rate it wants to?
[08:44] <blue-frog> nuller, use ndiswrapper from ubuntu cd, should give you more result...
[08:44] <lysis> how can i tell if the fglrx driver is active?
[08:44] <glacious> mwe: that seems to be the case, yes.
[08:44] <eugman> mr type ls in the terminal and see if any files have the word configure inthem
[08:44] <mwe> !tell lysis about ati
[08:44] <mwe> glacious: that sucks though. glad you got it to work
[08:44] <coolboy>  when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:45] <gnomefreak> coolboy, you can stop repeating it if someone knows they will help you
[08:45] <eugman> ubotu: tell coolboy about patience
[08:45] <glacious> mwe: i am very happy as well.  i'm tyring to make linux my 100% desktop again, with school, work, even gaming.  we'll see how it goes =)
[08:45] <Mr> eugman: when i type ls configure, it gives me no such file or directory
[08:45] <aLPHa_LeaK> Mr, just type ls
[08:45] <owner> mr try ./configure
[08:45] <coolboy> sr
[08:45] <gnomefreak> mr your not cd'ed into the newly created file
[08:45] <mwe> glacious: yeah. but you didn't customize the refresh rate then? the default just happens to work?
[08:45] <eugman> he did try ./configure
[08:45] <glacious> mwe: no, fglrxconfig <--- ran that
[08:46] <mwe> glacious: but what did it do that sets the refresh?
[08:46] <glacious> mwe: and i entered in everything manually, told it what refresh / rez to use, and it used it.
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> I keep getting this in my system mail, what should I do?: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[08:46] <glacious> mwe: 1280x1024 @ 75hz
[08:46] <Mr> Ok, i type ls, and it says the files in my directory, all of them
[08:46] <eugman> mr. are you in the parent directory r the src diretory of the parent
[08:46] <nubbe> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[08:46] <mwe> glacious: hmm. care to pastebin your xorg.conf?
[08:46] <glacious> mwe: i really don't know.  it's using the fglrx drive, no longer the ati driver that was built in with Ubuntu install.
[08:46] <eugman> yes nubbe
[08:46] <owner> yes nubbe
[08:46] <nubbe> okithanks
[08:47] <Mr> eugman: im not reading you, im just in the directory that my file that needs to be compiled was extracted to
[08:47] <glacious> mwe: it just seems like the ATI driver didn't care about xorg.conf, and would use some sort of default.
[08:47] <glacious> mwe: yes, i will.  brb
[08:47] <mwe> thanks
[08:47] <lysis> mwe, i installed fglrx months back, i just want to make sure i did it right.  is there a way to do that?
[08:47] <Navire> Someone help with HTB?
[08:47] <Navire>  MATCH dont work correct
[08:47] <lysis> without repeating the entire process that is.
[08:47] <owner> type fglrxinfo lysis
[08:47] <owner> in a terminal
[08:47] <mwe> lysis: glxinfo|grep direct
[08:48] <mwe> lysis: see if you have direct rendering that way
[08:48] <eugman> Mr. Ok There is often a /src/ directory inside of such directories. thought you migt have been mistakenly i tere
[08:48] <coolboy>  when i try play wav i get this: aplay: test_wavefile:714: can't play not PCM-coded WAVE-files
[08:48] <gnomefreak> mr can you tell me what dir you are in right now
[08:48] <eugman> When you typed ls where there any files with the word configure in the name
[08:49] <glacious> mwe: http://www.pastebin.com/517890
[08:49] <lysis> it says i do not.    i should do the entire fglrx install over then; correct?
[08:49] <Mr> EugmanL it didnt say
[08:49] <Mr> eugman: nothing has the configure in the title of it
[08:49] <mwe> coolboy: try "play" from sox instead
[08:49] <gnomefreak> mr tell me what the command prompt sasy someone@......
[08:50] <coolboy> mwe: what's sox?
[08:50] <e> is this correct for ubuntu?? it is assumed that /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware is a valid hotplug directory.
[08:50] <Mr> gnomefreak: huh?
[08:50] <e> i found several dirs...
[08:50] <john_> hy
[08:50] <gnomefreak> Mr in terminal do you see before the $ what does it say
[08:51] <john_> ANY ONE HERE
[08:51] <eugman> Ok mr thats why ./configure isn't wrking. N confiure script. Either wrong directory or wrong source files.
[08:51] <eugman> I am John
[08:51] <ubuntu> hi, I am new to linux.  in terminal window I have cd'ed to my media directory but I can't get to my extneral drive.  can someone help me with the command?
[08:51] <Mr> /home/liam/Desktop/Visual boy advance
[08:51] <mwe> coolboy: sound sample translator. install sox if you don't have it. then type play file.wav
[08:51] <Daillew> Hi Everyone, anybody no whats up with ubuntu forums?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> !tell ubuntu about mount
[08:52] <jerome__> is it an english room ?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu, It sounds like that could be what you need?
[08:52] <glacious> mwe: did you get that?
[08:52] <nuller> how do I find a devid?
[08:52] <eugman> Ubuntu is the hardrive listed under place->computer ?
[08:52] <tonyyarusso> Yes jerome__
[08:52] <talios> hey all -  is there an easy way to remove -all- of kde?  just removing the 'kde' doesn't pull up any dependencies, nor does kde-base or kde-core
[08:52] <mwe> glacious: thanks
[08:52] <Daillew> yes
[08:52] <glacious> mwe: ahh ok.  no problem.  and thank you again for all of your help.
[08:52] <gnomefreak> Mr run cd vis <tabkey>
[08:52] <ubuntu> Eugman, yes it is
[08:53] <yaas> hello
[08:53] <eugman> Now is it unreadable or is there some other problem
[08:53] <owner> talios kde is pretty modular, you willl have to manually remove a lot of packages
[08:53] <ubuntu> no, i can navigate to it and see the contents
[08:53] <Mr> gnomefreak: run command not found
[08:53] <eugman> So you a shortcut on your desktop?
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> talios, I was told to remove the qt library, which got almost all of it at least.
[08:53] <glacious> is there a 'steam' package for Valve?  (half life2, day of defeat, etc...?)
[08:53] <humboldt> I am having trouble making nvidia glx work on my laptop
[08:53] <MachineScrew> in order for other people to see my web site don't i have to modify hosts.allow and deny
[08:53] <talios> owner, yeh - I was hopeing the removal would have been as easy as the 'apt-get install kde' install was.
[08:54] <humboldt> I did everything the normal way
[08:54] <ubuntu> yes
[08:54] <Mr> "visualboyadvance" is not a directory
[08:54] <gnomefreak> Mr your not in right dir did you already unpack the tar?
[08:54] <coolboy> mwe: thx it works
[08:54] <eugman> ah ok
[08:54] <mwe> glacious: seems it's actually using your VertRefresh setting
[08:54] <stukas> hi, i got a problem. i can read CDs but i cant read DVDs. ubuntu says "No medium found". the drive and the DVDs (data, not movies) worked with every linux i had before.. what might be the problem ?
[08:54] <mwe> coolboy: yw
[08:54] <owner> talios try removing arts
[08:54] <talios> tonyyarusso, that'd do it :)
[08:54] <mianiak> hi, i just installed the os but i can ssh from an external computer on my network. is there any doc pages that can help me out here?
[08:54] <owner> the kde sound manager
[08:54] <Mr> gnomefreak: its allready been unpacked, and its in the folder on my desktop
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> What's the story behind apt-get moo?
[08:54] <owner> that has a lot of dependencies
[08:54] <coolboy> ubotu: tell stukas about dvd
[08:54] <humboldt> but glxinfo keeps telling me that direct rendering is off
[08:54] <mwe> glacious: unlike the other driver
[08:54] <eugman> ok what is the harddive called ubuntu?
[08:54] <glacious> mwe: yes.  but the thing is, those settings specified in that new xorg.conf, actually show up in xorg/gnome now for me to select.  So it actually uses them, with the old ATI driver, it never used them
[08:54] <glacious> mwe: exactly.
[08:55] <LiNova> _jason?
[08:55] <ubuntu> it is called playground
[08:55] <bimberi> talios: removing libqt3-mt will take most of kde with it.  Note it might take other apps you want to keep (Skype, k3b...)
[08:55] <mwe> glacious: I guess the standard "ati" driver just plain sucks
[08:55] <glacious> mwe: i'd believe it =)
[08:55] <gnomefreak> Mr you might have a bad tar than but if you cd into the new file that the unpack made ./configure should work
[08:56] <talios> bimberi, one could always reinstall the 2-3 bits one needs :)
[08:56] <john_> HELLO
[08:56] <Mr> gnomefreak: i said thetar is unpacked..... i aim in the file the unpack made......
[08:56] <bimberi> talios: indeed :)
[08:56] <talios> "After unpacking 429MB disk space will be freed.
[08:56] <talios> " w00t :)
[08:56] <martin__> im ahving probs installing myth tv the command sudo apt-get install mythtv can sum1 help
[08:57] <eugman> Are you sure it's not also called something like hdb1?
[08:57] <brosioz> excuse me i have a problem i want to install only some packege of dapper on my breezy
[08:57] <brosioz> i have set apt/preference
[08:57] <gnomefreak> mr right click on the file and open look in there for a readme or install file also look for a .config or configure file
[08:57] <mwe> glacious: I guess you even have direct rendering now as well then?
[08:57] <brosioz> Pin: release a=breezy
[08:57] <brosioz> Pin-Priority: 990
[08:57] <brosioz> Pin: release a=dapper
[08:57] <brosioz> Pin-Priority: 750
[08:57] <Mr> gnomefreak: their is a .cfg file
[08:57] <brosioz> but don't works
[08:57] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[08:57] <ubuntu> no I am not, but the name on the desktop icon is playground.  how do I find out what it is really named?
[08:57] <john_> I AM A GIRL
[08:57] <bimberi> martin__: what's the error (use a pastebin if >1 line)
[08:57] <mwe> john_: so?
[08:58] <gnomefreak> Mr i dont want the .cfg file
[08:58] <glacious> mwe: i am not sure of that
[08:58] <john_> YE
[08:58] <ViGiLnT> does anyone knows when will the forums come back up ?
[08:58] <MachineScrew> in order for other people to see my web site don't i have to modify hosts.allow and deny
[08:58] <glacious> mwe: is there a simple way to check?
[08:58] <john_> I THOUGHT
[08:58] <mwe> glacious: glxinfo|grep direct will show
[08:58] <eugman> Wait I'm confused. Is the icon on yur desktop or under computer
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> john_, Could we lose the caps please?
[08:58] <glacious> mwe: direct rendering: No
[08:58] <gnomefreak> john_, can you please lose the caps
[08:58] <glacious> mwe: a simple way to turn it on and test?
[08:58] <ubuntu> it is in both.
[08:58] <LiNova> Can anyone help me with a problem?
[08:58] <mwe> glacious: all right that's not working then
[08:59] <eugman> ok so could you clarify what you are trying to do?
[08:59] <mwe> glacious: how did you install fglrx?
[08:59] <martin__> the error is "E: Couldn't find package mythtv
[08:59] <martin__> "
[08:59] <john_> TALK
[08:59] <brosioz> anyone could help ?
[08:59] <glacious> from gnome with synaptic
[08:59] <john_> TALK
[08:59] <gnomefreak> !info mythtv
[08:59] <ubotu> mythtv: (A personal video recorder application (client and server)), section multiverse/graphics, is optional. Version: 0.18.1-5 (breezy), Packaged size: 16 kB, Installed size: 64 kB
[08:59] <bimberi> martin__: you need to add the multiverse repository (and maybe universe as well) ...
[08:59] <eugman> ubuntu, So if you have an con on your desktop what are you trying t do?
[08:59] <Mr> gnomefreaK: all their is is 4 text files and an executable
[08:59] <bimberi> ubotu tell martin__ about multiverse
[08:59] <gnomefreak> yeah what bimberi  said :)
[09:00] <bimberi> gnomefreak: :)
[09:00] <ubuntu> yes, I want to try to install OX S on this lap top.  I need to navigate to the external hard drive to use the command, "dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda"  but i can't get to the drive to use the command.
[09:00] <LiNova> I can't seem to be able to access any of the programs in the system => admin menu in breezy, they just donn't load.
[09:00] <martin__> thx
[09:00] <bimberi> martin__: yw :)
[09:00] <gnomefreak> Mr than either its a broken tar or you didnt download the right tar linux doesnt use .exe files
[09:00] <eugman> oh ok
[09:00] <yaas> t6e
[09:01] <eugman> type cd /media/
[09:01] <MachineScrew> what do I need in host.allow and deny to allow access from the outside world
[09:01] <glacious> is there an easy way to install Steam for halflife2, etc...?
[09:01] <Mr> gnomefreak: im starting to notice something odd to, in the readme it lists all these files i should have, but don't
[09:01] <LiNova> I can't seem to be able to access any of the programs in the system => admin menu in breezy, they just donn't load. _jason was in the middle of helping me, bu he seems to have gone now. Apparently my sudoers is fine.
[09:01] <mwe> glacious: you need direct rendering to work first
[09:01] <Dagda> Hi, I have a quick question about ubuntuforums.org, is it down ?
[09:01] <kevlarweste> is there a irc like this in german?
[09:01] <eugman> actually don't do tat, open that in a nautilus window.
[09:01] <glacious> mwe: how can i enable that?
[09:01] <mwe> glacious: how did you install fglrx?
[09:01] <glacious> from gnome with synaptic
[09:01] <gnomefreak> mr you need to read that file it tells you what you need to install before ./configure
[09:02] <glacious> mwe: from gnome with synaptic
[09:02] <airox> I installed ubuntu and I know my monitor can have 1600x1200 so I added the HorizSync and VertRefresh to my xorg.conf config file. Now I can run 1600x1200. But I can't seem to run 1280x1024 in refresh rates higher then 75Hz. How could this be ?
[09:02] <mwe> glacious: hmm
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> kevlarweste, #ubuntu-de
[09:02] <cold> anyone know what parameters to pass to the ubuntu installation disk to get it to boot my ubuntu distro ?
[09:02] <eugman> ubuntu you should see some folders in /media/ the hardrive should be ne.
[09:02] <eugman> er one
[09:02] <kevlarweste> #ubuntu-de
[09:02] <ubuntu> a nautilus window?
[09:02] <ubuntu> i see folders in the media$
[09:02] <ubuntu> i see playground
[09:02] <ubuntu> this is in terminal window
[09:02] <ubuntu> using 'ls'
[09:03] <mwe> glacious: ls -l /usr/lib/libGL.so.1.2. what's the size of that?
[09:03] <eugman> well that shuld work te same then
[09:03] <glacious> mwe: is there a line in xorg.conf that enables/disables it?
[09:03] <tonyyarusso> kevlarweste, You can join other channels with '/join #channelname'
[09:03] <glacious> mwe:  634636
[09:03] <mwe> glacious: it's enabled in xorg.conf
[09:03] <eugman> anyways you should use /media/playgrund/
[09:03] <eugman> normally hardrives are mounted as /media/hda1 and such
[09:04] <ubuntu> i tried tying cd /media ,  /playground but nothing happens
[09:04] <mianiak> nm i figured itout
[09:04] <mwe> glacious: have on in /usr/X11R6/lib/libGL.so.1.2 as well?
[09:04] <ubuntu> so try hdal
[09:04] <eugman> wait ubuntu,
[09:04] <ubuntu> k
[09:04] <RobinL> how do i completely switch to Kubuntu from Ubuntu?
[09:04] <eugman> when you cd to /media/ and type ls you see playground right?
[09:04] <ubuntu> yes
[09:05] <LiNova> I can't seem to be able to access any of the programs in the system => admin menu in breezy, they just donn't load. _jason was in the middle of helping me, bu he seems to have gone now. Apparently my sudoers is fine. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[09:05] <glacious> mwe: no
[09:05] <eugman> try cd playground/
[09:05] <eugman> without the starting slash
[09:05] <mwe> glacious: hmm
[09:05] <ubuntu> says no such file or directory
[09:05] <eugman> hmmm
[09:05] <ubuntu> wait
[09:05] <mwe> glacious: sorry gotta run
[09:05] <ubuntu> got it
[09:06] <ubuntu> i had and extra /
[09:06] <ubuntu> in there.
[09:06] <ubuntu> thanks!
[09:06] <eugman> ok wanna know why it didn't work before?
[09:06] <glacious> mwe: no problem.  thank you =)
[09:06] <ubuntu> yes
[09:06] <glacious> does anyone know the package name for Valve Steam for halflife2 etc...?
[09:06] <eugman> if you type cd /media/ and then cd /playground/ you would go to te directory /playground/
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> I keep getting this in my system mail, what should I do?: /etc/cron.daily/man-db: ; mandb: warning: /usr/share/man/man1/rmic.1.gz is a dangling symlink
[09:07] <wix123> good
[09:07] <eugman> but if you type cd /media/ and then cd playground/ it goes to /media/playground/
[09:07] <yaas> Hello, can any1 help me?? im getting this error on the installation "The debootstrap program exited with an eror
[09:07] <ubuntu> ahh I see.
[09:07] <wix123> what the user nobody do in passwd?!
[09:07] <yaas> Hello, can any1 help me?? im getting this error on the installation "The debootstrap program exited with an error"
[09:08] <ubuntu> eugman, when I try to use my command dd.... it says permission denied.
[09:08] <ubuntu> any ideas?
[09:08] <eugman> do you begin with sudo?
[09:08] <ubuntu> no
[09:08] <wix123> what the user nobody do in passwd?!
[09:08] <ubuntu> what do you mean sudo?
[09:08] <LNova> I can't seem to be able to access any of the programs in the system => admin menu in breezy, they just donn't load. _jason was in the middle of helping me, bu he seems to have gone now. Apparently my sudoers is fine. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[09:09] <hwntw> how can i redirect users who access my webpage to another webpage BUT allow users with a certain IP to view my website as normal ?
[09:09] <eugman> You need to type sudo before any command needing superuswer privileges
[09:09] <idefix_> ok great I now have a firewall on my PC... what good does this do?
[09:09] <ubuntu> ahhh
[09:09] <ubuntu> let me try
[09:09] <eugman> like sudo rm -rf /bobby/
[09:10] <wix123> what the user nobody do in passwd?!
[09:10] <eugman> ubotu: tell wiz123 about patience
[09:10] <idefix_> yeah and tell idefix_ about firewalls!
[09:10] <LNova> I can't seem to be able to access any of the programs in the system => admin menu in breezy, they just donn't load. _jason was in the middle of helping me, bu he seems to have gone now. Apparently my sudoers is fine. Does anyone know what's wrong?
[09:10] <ubuntu> it was rather uneventful.  it said 0+0 records in, 0+0 records out and 0 bytes transferred
[09:10] <idefix_> !kMyFirewall
[09:10] <ubotu> idefix_: Syntax error in line 1
[09:10] <glacious> is there a wine package?  or do you have to do a manual install?
[09:11] <bimberi> !wine
[09:11] <tonyyarusso> !info wine
[09:11] <bimberi> !+wine
[09:11] <ubotu> I guess wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[09:11] <ubotu> wine: (Microsoft Windows Compatibility Layer (Binary Emulator and Library)), section universe/otherosfs, is optional. Version: 0.0.20050725-0ubuntu1.1 (breezy), Packaged size: 14130 kB, Installed size: 55488 kB
[09:11] <eugman> Hmm I may be at n end of my helpfulness  but tell me the exact command you typed
[09:11] <wix123> help?
[09:11] <glacious> thank you
[09:11] <ubuntu>  sudo dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda
[09:12] <wix123> what the user nobody do in my /etc/passwd file?
[09:12] <ubuntu> however it seems to think the file is 0 bytes when I see properties in the folder
[09:12] <idefix_> why would one want the -f switch in the rm command?
[09:12] <idefix_> that's so stupid!
[09:12] <La_PaRCa> wix123, standard linux user. It there to run daemons and stuff.
[09:12] <idefix_> I'd like to know if the file I tried to delete doesn't exist
[09:13] <wix123> oh..
[09:13] <wix123> ok
[09:13] <eugman> hmmm
[09:13] <dell500> i just downloaded azureus, should i copy the folder with the app to ~/.azureus/?
[09:13] <ubuntu> i think that might be my problem
[09:13] <eugman> perhaps
[09:13] <idefix_> !KMyFirewall
[09:13] <ubotu> idefix_: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[09:14] <tonyyarusso> dell500, No, you'll have to install it.
[09:14] <bwlang> anybody tried skype with linux? is there a line i can put into sources.list?
[09:14] <glick> excuse me i installed gstreamer-ffmpeg and the w32codecs but when i try to play an avi in totem i only hear sound and see no video
[09:14] <glacious> hrmm, that line doesn't work for wine.  it says it can't find it.
[09:14] <glacious> it it supposed to have a space between apt/ and binary/?
[09:14] <ubuntu> i think so, i check it on my other machine and it seems to be corrupt.
[09:14] <wix123> when im install the chkrootkit from the Synaptic he didnt found anything...
[09:14] <ubuntu> thanks for your help
[09:15] <ubuntu> i am halfway there!
[09:15] <wix123> when im download it from they website.. he show.. -not tested-
[09:15] <wix123> why?
[09:15] <yaas> Hello, can any1 help me?? im getting this error on the installation "The debootstrap program exited with an error" some1 please?
[09:15] <eugman> where are you coping the os two
[09:15] <tonyyarusso> dell500, This is probably an extracted tarball?
[09:15] <eugman> er too
[09:15] <ubuntu> my external usb drive
[09:15] <mianiak> hello
[09:15] <mianiak> is this thing on?
[09:15] <SirKillalot> I installed the vsftpd package, can I use SSL with ftp now?
[09:16] <nuller> so I like tried installing ndiswrapper from the ubuntu cd and 'module ndiswrapper' still gives me module not found...
[09:16] <eugman> and where from
[09:16] <dell500> tonyyarusso, yup
[09:16] <ubuntu> my windows machine.
[09:16] <ubuntu> desktop
[09:16] <glacious> i keep getting this error when i got to get wine:  W: Couldn't stat source package list http://wine.sourceforge.net binary/ Packages
[09:16] <wix123> when im install the chkrootkit from the Synaptic he didnt found anything...
[09:16] <wix123> when im download it from they website.. he show.. -not tested-
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> dell500, In a terminal, cd into the directory it extracted to, do 'ls', and see if there's a file called 'configure'.
[09:17] <eugman> ah ok I duno how do much of anything about it not recognizing the size of the file.
[09:17] <wix123> why
[09:17] <dell500> tonyyarusso, k
[09:17] <aIk0n> glacious
[09:17] <dell500> tonyyarusso, nope, bunch of .so files though
[09:17] <ubuntu> when i went back to pc and tried to unzip it the iso file comes out with 0 bytes.  and winrar has an operation error.
[09:17] <glick> does anyone know why i can hear sound of an avi but not see the picture?
[09:17] <wix123> anyone?
[09:17] <eugman> oh qwait maybe I do
[09:17] <aIk0n> write this souce in /etc/apt/sources.list
[09:18] <aIk0n> deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/
[09:18] <aIk0n> deb-src http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ source/
[09:18] <tonyyarusso> dell500, Anything like install, or something like that?
[09:18] <dell500> nope
[09:18] <SirKillalot> I installed the vsftpd package, can I use SSL with ftp now?
[09:18] <owner> i just compiled mplayer from source
[09:18] <owner> but xv support is disabled
[09:18] <wix123> eugman
[09:18] <wix123> when im install the chkrootkit from the Synaptic he didnt found anything...
[09:18] <wix123> when im download it from they website.. he show.. -not tested-
[09:18] <glacious> aIk0n: ahh, ok ty.
[09:18] <wix123> why?
[09:18] <glick> anyone?
[09:19] <nuller> glick, no codec?
[09:19] <idefix_> glick, you are extremely knowledgable, tell me about KMyFirewall
[09:19] <eugman> ubuntu are running gnome desktop right now?
[09:19] <glick> nuller, i downloaded the w32 codecs
[09:19] <glick> what else do i need?
[09:20] <ubuntu_> how would i mount a samba share that is on a windows computer when im on ubuntu?
[09:20] <mwe> glacious: so did you get direct rendering to work?
[09:21] <glacious> mwe: no idea how.
[09:21] <eugman> ubuntu__ can you get directory addres?
[09:21] <glacious> mwe: if it's enabled in xorg.conf, i wouldn't see why it's not working
[09:21] <Samineru> hey I'm having some trouble playing a movie on my computer
[09:22] <Samineru> I just played a tv show on dvd but now i can't watch a movie
[09:22] <mwe> glacious: there could be various reasons
[09:22] <mwe> glacious: LIBGL_DEBUG=verbose glxinfo| grep -i error
[09:22] <eugman> Actually nvm ubuntu_ I probably can't help you.
[09:22] <mwe> glacious: try that
[09:22] <glick> i thought i followed the directions on the restricted formats website
[09:22] <dell500> tonyyarusso, any other solution?
[09:22] <mwe> ubuntu_: install smbfs and read man smbmount
[09:22] <tonyyarusso> dell500, Yeah, I just had to check that first.  Some things need it.
[09:23] <dell500> k...
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> dell500, Now we'll work on the assumption that there is not pre-configuration to do.
[09:23] <glacious> mwe: libGL error: XF86DRIQueryDirectRenderingCapable returned false
[09:23] <dell500> i just rather not have the azurues folder on my desktop, that's all
[09:23] <tonyyarusso> dell500, If you haven't already, install the build-essential package.
[09:23] <h-kan> I have a question that? dont sounds so important ;) Bu im sitting here trying to style my Gnome session and when I restart X there? the brown solid background before my background loads... anyone know how I can change that color?
[09:23] <mwe> glacious: hmm
[09:23] <dell500> well all i had to do was untar and then type ./azureus and it worked
[09:23] <dell500> what's the build-essential?
[09:23] <dell500> like what does it do
[09:23] <mwe> glacious: and of course lsmod confirms fglrx is loaded?
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> dell500, azureus must have been that then.
[09:24] <eugman> build-essential provies the tools for the make command among other tings
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> dell500, It has everything for compiling.
[09:24] <eugman> it allows you to compile programs
[09:24] <Samineru> noone know how to watch a movie in linux?
[09:24] <dell500> neat
[09:24] <tonyyarusso> dell500, When you say ./azureus 'worked', what exactly does that mean?
[09:24] <glacious> mwe:  lsmod | grep fglrx    gives me nothing.  so that could be the issue.
[09:24] <mwe> glacious: yeah
[09:24] <dell500> tonyyarusso, ran in terminal and it loaded azureus
[09:25] <mwe> glacious: does sudo modprobe fglrx work?
[09:25] <tatters> hmm is automatix link broke I keep getting 404 error?
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> dell500, As in it started right up?
[09:25] <glacious> mwe: should it be set to auto load at boot since i did the instll through synaptic?
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[09:25] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[09:25] <dell500> tonyyarusso, yup
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> tatters, ^^
[09:25] <nuller> does this mean my gcc is messed up?make[1] : gcc-3.4: Command not found
[09:25] <tatters> :/
[09:25] <mwe> glacious: you have to do that manually
[09:25] <eugman> samineru?: let me ask you something
[09:25] <ploom> hello - damn I still can't choose: Celeron D 340J (2,9GHz, 256kB cache, FSB 533, s775) or Sempron 3100+ 64bit (512MB DDR PC3200/400)??
[09:25] <tonyyarusso> dell500, Interesting...
[09:25] <glacious> mwe: FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-12-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:25] <eugman> Wat file type is it
[09:25] <abiertos> tomal
[09:25] <abiertos> fjaj
[09:25] <tatters> gosh so  Y do they allow it be advertised in forum?
[09:25] <misfit_toy> does anyone recommend running Ubuntu on a server? or is it not ready for prime time yet?
[09:25] <Samineru> its off a dvd
[09:26] <mwe> glacious: that's what modprobe gives you?
[09:26] <Samineru> i was getting the same error last night from LOTR
[09:26] <glacious> mwe yes
[09:26] <Samineru> then i fixed it with help but cant remember how
[09:26] <eugman> hmmm
[09:26] <mwe> glacious: dmesg?
[09:26] <glick> can anyone help me get avi playback?
[09:26] <glick> please
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> dell500, I'm not sure at this point, but if there's anything called Makefile in that directory, I'd get b-e, then do sudo make && make install, then you should be able to access it with a normal command.
[09:26] <dell500> !avi
[09:26] <ubotu> it has been said that avi is Video for Windows. For more info http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[09:26] <mwe> glacious: you did it with sudo, right
[09:26] <dafttitan> hi
[09:26] <dafttitan> the sortecut are not anymore added to my kde meny when i install a soft, somebody can help me ?
[09:26] <dell500> glick, see that link? :)
[09:26] <wdh_> misfit_toy, ubuntu is fine for a server
[09:27] <glacious> mwe yes
[09:27] <metal> does anyone use opera?
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> tatters, I don't believe anyone's censoring the forum.
[09:27] <glick> dell500, yeah i followed what it said
[09:27] <tatters> ubuntu forumms been down long time and automatix still not downloading
[09:27] <mwe> glacious: what's dmesg say?
[09:27] <misfit_toy> wdh_, you think so? hmmm, I just don't know anyone using on a production server yet
[09:27] <Samineru> metal i used to
[09:27] <glacious> mwe: there is a radeon module listed in lsmod.
[09:27] <ompaul> nuller, no, first off you get both 3.4 and 4.0 with 5.10 ubuntu, reasons are a long and boring - sudo apt-get install g++-3.4<<
[09:27] <dell500> tonyyarusso, no make file.... this is really odd
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell tatters about easyubuntu
[09:27] <mwe> glacious: it's dapper?
[09:27] <dell500> last time i installed it i had to use the make and stuff...
[09:27] <dell500> wierd
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> tatters, Try that instead.
[09:27] <eugman> samineru whats the error?
[09:27] <tatters> well surely the way it looks to a noob like me is automatix is part of ubuntu
[09:28] <Samineru> it says i do not have trhe rights to play it
[09:28] <ompaul> nuller, sudo agt-get install build-essential first though and get all the nice goodies that come with 4.0
[09:28] <glacious> mwe: yes
[09:28] <mwe> glacious: yes. what radeon module? the agp one?
[09:28] <bwlang> i found a skype apt line .... but it depends on  libqt3c102-mt - which is not provided in ubuntu... any way i can force apt-get? (i know i can download it and force deps with dpkg)
[09:28] <nuller> I believe I did get build-essential already
[09:28] <glacious> mwe: no idea.
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> dell500, Not familiar with azureus, but that's the general way to install when you have a tarball.  Maybe in this case just copy the directory and symlink it into /usr/bin?
[09:28] <Samineru> last night when someone helped me they had me get libdvdcss2 and build-essential and i think it might have worked after that but now it doesnt
[09:28] <Samineru> and dma is on
[09:28] <mwe> glacious: what's the name?
[09:28] <RobinL> how to remove GNOME with all the apps? (switching to kubuntu)
[09:28] <bjv> If my modem picks up and dials numbers when i run pon, it cannot be a 'driver' issue, could it?
[09:28] <bwlang> or maybe there is a way to tell apt that libqt3-mt provides libqt3c102-mt
[09:28] <nuller> ompaul, must I reboot now?
[09:29] <glacious> mwe: dmesg:  [4298983.606000]  [fglrx:firegl_stub_register]  *ERROR* Unable to the open some already present DRM kernel module!
[09:29] <metal> Samineru, any idea? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/i7493
[09:29] <glacious> mwe: it just says radeon
[09:29] <ompaul> nuller, for what?
[09:29] <Samineru> wow it just started working
[09:29] <Samineru> but im getting the same problem io had earlier
[09:29] <dell500> tonyyarusso, can i just paste the folder in /usr/bin?
[09:29] <RobinL> how to remove GNOME with all the apps? (switching to kubuntu)
[09:29] <nuller> ompaul, for gcc to work
[09:29] <Samineru> its only in green and purple
[09:29] <eugman> Sorry samineru that's outta my league
[09:29] <ompaul> nuller, why would you? this is not a windows like operating system
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> RobinL, Well, to do it the other way around you can remove the qt library, maybe someone can tell you the library Gnome stuff is built on?
[09:30] <mwe> glacious: can you sudo modprobe -r radeon? or does it say it's in use?
[09:30] <nuller> ompaul, i've had to occasionally reboot for stuff
[09:30] <_jason> LNova: still around?
[09:30] <ompaul> nuller, you only need to do that if you replace your kernel
[09:30] <RobinL> tonyyarusso: ahh, gtk
[09:30] <sexualpotatoes> anyone have any luck getting 3d accel for a PCI-E x800xl ?
[09:30] <glacious> mwe: says nothing
[09:30] <tonyyarusso> dell500, No, that's not how that works.  /usr/bin just has the executables, not the rest of the program stuff.
[09:30] <mwe> glacious: good
[09:30] <glacious> mwe: so yeah it removed it
[09:30] <dell500> oh ok.... where would one put that folder though/
[09:30] <mwe> glacious: can you modprobe fglrx now?
[09:30] <glacious> mwe: same error
[09:31] <Samineru> does anyone know what would cause xine to only display amovie in green and purple?
[09:31] <fotis> hai
[09:31] <glacious> mwe: and same error in dmesg
[09:31] <mwe> glacious: try sudo modprobe -v fglrx to get more info
[09:31] <RobinL> how to remove GTK?
[09:31] <y_o_u> hey all, i am trying to get Synaptics installed on my Kubuntu 5.10 machine, with no luck. I have seen that I need to run "apt-get install synaptics" (error message: couldnt find package synaptics), or install it from Adept (not there). What other way is there? thanks
[09:31] <dafttitan> the shortcut are not anymore added to my kde menu when i install a soft, somebody can help me ?
[09:31] <nuller> ompaul, I am still getting modprobe ndiswrapper, ndiswrapper not found....
[09:31] <Amaranth> RobinL: You'll lose GNOME and every app that uses GTK
[09:31] <glacious> mwe: insmod /lib/modules/2.6.15-12-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[09:32] <glacious> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.15-12-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): Operation not permitted
[09:32] <nuller> even though I've installed the modules
[09:32] <tonyyarusso> Amaranth, That's RobinL's goal.
[09:32] <fotis> gia re
[09:32] <mwe> glacious: can you paste the complete output of lsmod?
[09:32] <ompaul> nuller, hang on a minute please
[09:32] <RobinL> so how to remove GTK?
[09:32] <Amaranth> sudo apt-get remove libgtk2.0-0
[09:32] <glacious> mwe: sure
[09:33] <mwe> glacious: I'm not sure if the error is indicating some other loaded module is preventing it from loading
[09:33] <clemslacker> streaming video question, whats the best application play streaming asf files?
[09:33] <ompaul> nuller, are you doing this::::: >>>> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper   ?
[09:33] <glacious> mwe: http://pastebin.com/517961
[09:33] <Samineru> mplayer is playting a movie but it doesnt have any sound can anyone help?
[09:33] <tonyyarusso> Will my newly installed gdesklets automatically run on future logins?
[09:34] <nuller> ompaul, yes...  I used the gui ndiswrapper.  I have the driver installed and hardware is present but there is no wlan0
[09:34] <_jason> if LiNova or Lnova shows up again guys, he needs to add his hostname to /etc/hosts... we seem to be missing each other....
[09:34] <henningi> server krautzer.kicks-ass.nu
[09:34] <RobinL> ... but it also removes KDE apps
[09:34] <Amaranth> RobinL: They must not be KDE apps then.
[09:34] <Amaranth> RobinL: name one
[09:34] <shindo> y_o_u: check out what this guy has to say
[09:34] <shindo> http://www.uni-koblenz.de/~dbildh/Linux_On_TM4001/
[09:35] <Samineru> it says "cannot find codec 'dts' in libavcodec..."
[09:35] <Martoludia> hi all
[09:35] <meisam> hi guys, this is the error i`ve recieved what should i do ? There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:35] <y_o_u> shindo: will do, thanks
[09:35] <shindo> I have my touchpad working fine on Gnome
[09:35] <shindo> hope it helps
[09:35] <meisam> i was trying to run mpg file
[09:35] <ompaul> nuller, I don't do wireless here at all, I only know to point people at that, and usually they come back with it is working, what kind of machine is it?
[09:35] <Martoludia> can anyone help me ... my ubuntu is hanging up on "Starting Hotplug subsystem" i have GF6600 is this the problem
[09:35] <nuller> ompaul, compaq laptop..
[09:35] <tomukas2> has anyone experience with pcmcia-cards for wlan... which do work with ubuntu?
[09:35] <Noah0504> So, I want to begin to digg a little deeper into Linux...I want to upgrade Rhythmbox to the latest version, and because it's not in the backports, I'm going to have to do it myself.  Can anyone help?
[09:36] <ompaul> nuller, thanks I was wondering about ppc or x86 so it is x86 :)
[09:36] <mwe> glacious: hmm. I can't see anything that should prevent it from loading. I'm not really sure how to interpret the error from dmesg
[09:36] <meisam> tomukas2 i couldn`t install them
[09:36] <mwe> glacious: brb
[09:36] <ompaul> Noah0504, why do you need the latest version?
[09:36] <glacious> mwe: ok
[09:36] <tomukas2> meisam: i have one in that laptop... but its not working continuely
[09:36] <meisam> tomukas2 waste of time
[09:36] <eugman> meisamdo you have the universe and multiverse repositories enabled?
[09:37] <Dreamglider> after the new kernel update, i see the blue xubuntu splash instead of the usual brown Ubuntu, how to fix it ?
[09:37] <meisam> hi guys, this is the error i`ve recieved what should i do ? There were no decoders found to handle the stream, you might need to install the corresponding plugins
[09:37] <meisam> , i was trying to run mpg file
[09:37] <meisam> tomukas2 yes itold u
[09:37] <Martoludia> can anyone help me ... my ubuntu is hanging up on "Starting Hotplug subsystem" i have GF6600 is this the problem????
[09:37] <meisam> mine is laptop
[09:37] <tomukas2> meisam: but i will get a laptop next week... what about usb-sticks
[09:37] <Noah0504> ompaul:  It has many new features: better iPod support, Last.fm support, podcast support, and it allows for iTunes music sharing.
[09:37] <meisam> i couldn`t run it
[09:37] <mcdenyer> !ntfs
[09:37] <ubotu> from memory, ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[09:37] <nuller> ompaul, perhaps you could tell me how to find the device-id for my card then?
[09:37] <eugman> meisam, do you have the multiverse and universe repositories enabled?
[09:37] <meisam> tomukas2 i mean up to now i couldn`t do anything about it
[09:37] <owner> !captive
[09:37] <ubotu> it has been said that captive is a project to use windows NTFS drivers under linux. It does not work properly with Ubuntu.
[09:38] <meisam> eugman im not familiar with multi and uni
[09:38] <ompaul> nuller, lspci  put the output in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:38] <mcdenyer> _jason hey how do i acess a ntfs thats already mounted but i dont have permission to acess it?
[09:38] <meisam> eugman waht are those
[09:38] <owner> umount and mount it
[09:38] <yaas> Hello, can any1 help me?? im getting this error on the installation "The debootstrap program exited with an error" some1 please?
[09:38] <y_o_u> shindo: i am a bit confused, i think we might be talking about two different things. i am talking about Synaptic, the package installer/finder (i know little, so not sure if this is correct), are you talking about synaptic touchpad, like on a laptop? like i said, i know very little, so sorry if i am wrong
[09:38] <eugman> ok you are familiar wit the repositories right?
[09:38] <glacious> whenever i boot back into windows, my clock is 5 hours off.  my bios shows the right time, so does Ubuntu.
[09:38] <Amaranth> RobinL: Get it figured out?
[09:39] <meisam> eugman no sorry...
[09:39] <nuller> ompaul, the whole thing?
[09:39] <_jason> mcdenyer: sudo?  (best option is to remount with the appropriate options)
[09:39] <eugman> ok follow my instructions meisam
[09:39] <Amaranth> glacious: Ubuntu uses GMT and corrects for your timezone, Windows uses your timezone
[09:39] <ompaul> Noah0504, you are going to go through a whole pile of pain doing that, I wish you luck, first stop >>sudo apt-get install build-essentials<< after that read the install instructions well :-)
[09:39] <meisam> eugman ok
[09:39] <Martoludia> can anyone please help me
[09:39] <meisam> eugman thanks
[09:39] <Martoludia> may be on private
[09:39] <_jason> Martoludia: We can try to help you if you ask a question
[09:39] <glacious> Amaranth: so why would it change my windows time ever since i installed Ubuntu?
[09:39] <eugman> go System->Administration->synaptic
[09:39] <mcdenyer> how do  i run the fglrx gears thing?
[09:39] <Martoludia> _jason i asked but it's overcrowded \.... lines disappear
[09:39] <Amaranth> glacious: It's changing the BIOS time to match what it uses.
[09:40] <Martoludia> my ubuntu hangs up on hotplug subsystem trying to boot....
[09:40] <Amaranth> Which then breaks things in Windows.
[09:40] <Martoludia> it's just after install
[09:40] <glacious> Amaranth: and windows changes it back?
[09:40] <Martoludia> i never got to load it
[09:40] <Noah0504> ompaul: haha, I'll make sure I have a bottle of Advil next to me during the process.
[09:40] <tonyyarusso> glacious, Because Windows is too dumb to understand that the clock is set right, to GMT, and gets confused.
[09:40] <Amaranth> glacious: If you have Windows change it back, sure.
[09:40] <eugman> are you able to do that meisam?
[09:40] <_jason> Martoludia: keep you question on one line, it will increase your chances of getting helped
[09:40] <ompaul> nuller, well discount whatever you do know - but that should tell you what card you have in there - and you should be able to find it- if it is inbuild I would check the model number on the interweb for card type
[09:40] <mcdenyer> _jason hgow do i run the fglrx gears thing?
[09:40] <psycose> i've just install  the deb package realplayer 10.0.6.776-1plf1 on ubuntu breezy up to date. my system sound works well using alsa (for gnome, totem, xine and others..) from realplayer i got the video stream well but no sound any tips ?
[09:40] <meisam> eugman hold on plz
[09:40] <Razor-X> there won't be any problems with X, will there?
[09:40] <ompaul> Noah0504, na, something for calming the stomach
[09:40] <_jason> mcdenyer: glxgears
[09:41] <Martoludia> ok , i installed Ubuntu .... but while booting it hangs up on Starting Hotplug Subsystem... somebody help?
[09:41] <meisam> eugman im using kubuntu desktop.. i cant find my adminstratinn
[09:41] <LNova> _jason?
[09:41] <shindo> y_o_u: Oops
[09:41] <mcdenyer> _jason theres a different one that gives fps and the gears are on a spinning cube
[09:41] <eugman> ok sorry  assumed you had gnome
[09:41] <_jason> LNova: yep
[09:41] <LNova> Hey
[09:41] <ompaul> Martoludia, it did not install correctly if it stalling on hot plug, I have a suggestion for you
[09:42] <shindo> I thought the package manager was installed by default on ubuntu
[09:42] <LNova> I found out my partition
[09:42] <glacious> so how do i get Ubuntu to stop messing with my Bios clock, and just realise it's EST.
[09:42] <_jason> mcdenyer: I don't know, never saw that one
[09:42] <_jason> LNova: good, did you mount it?
[09:42] <Amaranth> Shindo: apt is install by default, yes
[09:42] <LNova> :S
[09:42] <meisam> eugman all right do u want me go to gnome?
[09:42] <LNova> I couldn't remember what you said to do
[09:42] <eugman> no thats alright
[09:42] <Amaranth> Shindo: And if you try to remove it it makes you type 'Yes, I know what I'm doing' before it does it. :)
[09:42] <mcdenyer> _jason hmm i just need to know if my video card is working ok with these drivers i installed
[09:42] <shindo> Have you looked in System>Admin on the gui?
[09:42] <meisam> eugman ok
[09:42] <eugman> ope up the terminal
[09:42] <Razor-X> how does the iPod Nano work out with the Linux kernel?
[09:42] <Drac[Server] > This isn't ubuntu that I'm running, but maybe you can help. This Linux distro thinks my floppy can't hold 1.44 MB added to the contents (currently nothing). fstab has " noauto,users,suid,dev,exec" for the options. Any ideas?
[09:42] <tonyyarusso> glacious, Tell Ubuntu to use GMT as the timezone.
[09:42] <clemslacker> poll, what is the best multimedia player
[09:43] <eugman> join channel #flood and gimme a sec
[09:43] <meisam> eugman ok
[09:43] <LNova> _jason: you said to boot up in live rught?
[09:43] <robertj> clemslacker: depends
[09:43] <tonyyarusso> glacious, It won't really care, and then will show up the same.
[09:43] <meisam> eugman r  u talkinh to me?
[09:43] <nuller> dang forums are down
[09:43] <glacious> tonyyarusso: ahh ok, make sense.  ty.
[09:43] <clemslacker> robertj: video multimedia
[09:43] <ompaul> Martoludia, as the machine starts to install it pauses - type the word server, get the box up and running that way - then come back and we can install the desktop without having it start on boot up and so we get a chance to control the situation more
[09:43] <y_o_u> shindo: yeah, Adept is installed, but i cant seem to get the same stuff that you can get trough Synaptics, although I would also say I don't exactly know what i am doing
[09:43] <robertj> clemslacker: well basically you are out of luck
[09:44] <eugman> can you point me to something I may have said in a condescending tone?
[09:44] <Mr> Whats the command to set permissions for a folder
[09:44] <robertj> try back with dapper
[09:44] <ompaul> Drac[Server] , what distro is it?
[09:44] <eugman> oh wait nvm mind
[09:44] <mcdenyer> _jason hmmm  i did the first command in the ntfs manually mount and didnt get any lists i did for i in `ls /dev/hd* | grep -e "hd\w$"`; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[09:44] <eugman> yes I'm talking to you meisam
[09:44] <clemslacker> robertj: what do you mean out of luck?
[09:44] <eugman> thought I saw a down in that question
[09:44] <robertj> clemslacker: nothing plays everything and the stuff that gets close is legally questionable and not supported
[09:44] <meisam> eugman all right wht should i do?
[09:44] <Drac[Server] > ompaul: You had better not think of redirecting me to the GoblinX channel. It's just a GoblinX live CD. Slackware based. They can't help me any more than you can.
[09:44] <meisam> mpg
[09:44] <glacious> tonyyarusso: there is no GMT within gnome, do i have to use console?
[09:44] <Mr> what is the command to edit file permissions inthe command line
[09:45] <_jason> LNova: yes using the live and assuming your partition is hda2 the first step is: sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntuhd .  Then you 'sudo gedit /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hosts' and make the first line look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7491 (where your hostname is in /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hostname).  Copy this and save it somewhere :)
[09:45] <clemslacker> robertj: what is the stuff that gets close?
[09:45] <fr500> robertj, totem-xine plays virtually anything for me
[09:45] <eugman> ok meisam join cannel flood
[09:45] <robertj> xine does a pretty good job
[09:45] <the_mr_bong_show> could some one help me with flashing my bios or updating my bios
[09:45] <eugman> I'm gonna give you the text I use in my repositories list
[09:45] <eugman> but I ned to look up a command first
[09:45] <tomveens> #utwente
[09:45] <robertj> eugman: dtest out the pastebin script
[09:45] <meisam> eugman im trying
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> glacious, Europe/London will do it for you.
[09:45] <qsrv> hi
[09:46] <glacious> Whenever Ubuntu boots, it FAILS on "Restoring Resolver State..."
[09:46] <_jason> mcdenyer: umm why don't you just do sudo fdisk -l, what are you trying to do?
[09:46] <Martoludia> WHat is the exact way of .... setting HotPlug Subsystem not to be started on boot in Ubuntu with GRUB ?
[09:46] <mcdenyer> _jason i guess that command is suposed to be "scary" and when i did it there were no results i didnt hurt anything did i
[09:46] <qsrv> could anyone help me configure wireless and wired roaming with wpa (for wireless)?
[09:46] <mcdenyer> _jason acess an ntfs
[09:46] <ompaul> Drac[Server] , so why ask if you know it is a lost case - is your hardware borked - is your floppy write enabled? and lots of other things like have you got mtools installed if so can you do mdir - if all that fails I know nothing and I would ask you to read your comment to me again is it what you meant?
[09:46] <Mr> what is the command to edit file permissions inthe command line
[09:46] <tonyyarusso> glacious, And turn off any daylight savings time corrections, because Windows will do them, and you won't want to move an hour twice.
[09:46] <fr500> Martoludia, that isn't a grub parameter or anything
[09:46] <mcdenyer> _jason when i installed ubuntu it found the ntfs and mounted it during the installation
[09:46] <_jason> mcdenyer: no, you didn't hurt anything
[09:46] <fr500> it's like a system service
[09:47] <Martoludia> fr500 kernel parameter?
[09:47] <mcdenyer> _jason and i dont have permissions to mount it
[09:47] <Martoludia> i read around the net of a something like nohotplug added to the line
[09:47] <mcdenyer> _jason so do i need to unmount it then mount it or what?
[09:47] <_jason> mcdenyer: you need to edit /etc/fstab follow the /manual' directions in the link ubotu is going to send you
[09:47] <Martoludia> does it work?
[09:47] <meisam> eugman i`ve joind
[09:47] <fr500> Martoludia, it's a daemon i think, it's not enabled or disabled on grub afaik
[09:47] <_jason> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about ntfs
[09:47] <idefix_> what is Xfce?
[09:47] <fr500> maybe im wrong
[09:47] <glacious> anyone here use the fglrx driver for ATI cards and have Direct Rendering working?
[09:47] <y_o_u> Anyone here know how to install Synaptic on Kubuntu 5.10? Any help would be much appreciatated
[09:47] <mcdenyer> _jason yeah thats what ive been doing
[09:47] <idefix_> !Xfce
[09:47] <ubotu> methinks xfce is a lightweight Desktop Environment that uses GTK. to install, "sudo apt-get install xfce4" or "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop". http://www.xfce.org/
[09:47] <mcdenyer> _jason thats where i got this command for i in `ls /dev/hd* | grep -e "hd\w$"`; do sudo fdisk -l $i; done
[09:48] <Martoludia> how can i disable this Hotplug subsystem ???
[09:48] <mcdenyer> _jason thats the first step of the tut and nothing happeened :/
[09:48] <fr500> y_o_u, does apt-get install synaptic work? it should
[09:48] <idefix_> !GTK
[09:48] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, idefix_
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> glacious, Yes.
[09:48] <fr500> i guess bup can not sure
[09:48] <idefix_> does anybody know what GTK is?
[09:48] <glacious> tonyyarusso: anything special that you did?
[09:48] <otto_> gimp tool kit
[09:48] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i'm having problems loading the module
[09:48] <Amaranth> idefix_: GTK stands for Gimp Tool Kit, it's the widget library that GNOME and XFCE use
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> glacious, Do you have linux-restricted-modules-($uname -r)?
[09:48] <shindo> y_o_u: http://www.nongnu.org/synaptic/
[09:49] <idefix_> so then Xfce is not some device for playing small films on the internet
[09:49] <metrix> I am not able to mount a samba share as Read-write with the ubuntu live cd.. does anyone know why?
[09:49] <allan_> which is better: limewire or aMule? are either any good? i usually use torrents, but im looking into these as well
[09:49] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i don't think so?  I installed it through Synaptic.  I am also running Dapper (because of a SATA issue)
[09:49] <y_o_u> fr500: it tells me that the package is not available, but is referd to by another package. Pakage synaptic has no installation candidate
[09:49] <winograd> help on modem installation (winmodem ac97 m5457)
[09:49] <Amaranth> idefix_: No, XFCE is a GNOME alternative.
[09:49] <matid> !ubotu tell idefix_ about xfce
[09:49] <y_o_u> shindo: i will check it out, thanks again
[09:50] <tonyyarusso> glacious, If you get that I *think* it will resolve your issue.
[09:50] <Mr> what is the command line command to copy and paste something
[09:50] <mcdenyer> _jason when i installed hoary it didnt mount it and so i mounted it and it worked perfectly but weith breezy it auto found it whih kind of sucks
[09:50] <mcdenyer> _jason makes things alot harder
[09:50] <theine> Mr, what do you want to do?
[09:50] <glacious> tonyyarusso: is that something i'd install through Synaptic?
[09:50] <Mr> theine: i just want to copy and paste a file, using the command line, and I'd like to know how
[09:50] <_jason> mcdenyer: I'm making soup right now so I'll be in and out.  Don't bother with that.  All you need is to add some options to fstab.  Look at the table about permissions
[09:51] <owner> middle mouse button mr
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> glacious, You could, yes.
[09:51] <owner> depending on which terminal emulator
[09:51] <tonyyarusso> glacious, ($uname -r) means your kernel version, btw.
[09:51] <theine> Mr, try cp
[09:51] <glacious> tonyyarusso: got that =)
[09:51] <shindo> hope it helps
[09:51] <shindo> I'm outta here
[09:52] <theine> Mr, that's the unix analog to the copy command in dos
[09:52] <shindo> night, all
[09:52] <_jason> mcdenyer: skip to "Editing Ubuntu's filesystem table"
[09:52] <Mr> theine: how about paste
[09:52] <y_o_u> shindo: thanks, take it easyu
[09:52] <glacious> tonyyarusso: should i reboot after fglrx-control was installed?
[09:52] <LiNova> _jason, but i thought the live disk doesn;t load anything from the hard drive
[09:52] <ciao> hello! with wine can i open encarta?
[09:53] <tonyyarusso> glacious, I don't remember if that's necessary.  Maybe.
[09:53] <Martoludia> Please someone tell me how to disable HotPlugSubsystem loading at startup... it's about Ubuntu 5.10
[09:53] <SuperThomsen> how do i install a wireless usb modem?
[09:53] <robertj> Marto: why?
[09:53] <robertj> Marto: that could break lots of stuff
[09:53] <owner> ndiswrapper superthmen
[09:53] <y_o_u> SuperThomsen: ndiswrapper
[09:53] <glacious> tonyyarusso: ok, i'll give it a reboot and see what happens
[09:53] <owner> ubotu tell SuperThomsen about ndiswrapper
[09:53] <SuperThomsen> thanx
[09:53] <mcdenyer> _jason so do i just add ro,auto,user,fmask=0111,dmask=0000 after defaults ?
[09:53] <PuMpErNiCkEl> ciao: according to http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?appId=977 you can
[09:53] <fr500> Martoludia, quick, dirty, not sure if good idea sudo chmod -x /etc/init.d/hotplug
[09:53] <glacious> tonyyarusso: would i have to put the fglrx module into autoload, or would synaptic do that already?
[09:53] <ciao> by wine can i run mt windows applications installed in another partition?
[09:54] <mcdenyer> _jason or should i delete deafults and replace it
[09:54] <Mr> what is the console command for rename
[09:54] <Martoludia> fr500 i cant get to console to write this
[09:54] <Martoludia> robertj my Ubuntu wont load....
[09:54] <matid> Mr: rename
[09:54] <y_o_u> SuperThomsen: go to ubuntuforums.org and look around at some of the q and a's and also look at the wiki's for some howto's
[09:54] <Martoludia> it gets stuck at Hotplug Subsystem
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> :)
[09:54] <matid> or mv
[09:54] <fr500> Martoludia, press ctrl-c
[09:54] <Dr_Willis> mv foo bar
[09:54] <matid> Depands on what you want
[09:54] <robertj> Martoludia: does ctl+c get you past the stall on hotplug?
[09:54] <LiNova> _jason, but i thought the live disk doesn;t load anything from the hard drive
[09:54] <robertj> But hotplug is an important part of Ubuntu, it's not optionaly really
[09:55] <tonyyarusso> glacious, I'd try dpkg-reconfigure xorg-xserver-fglrx fglrx-control for that after installing the restricted modules.
[09:55] <gnomefreak> y_o_u, ubuntuforums are down
[09:55] <theine> Mr, cp is in fact both copy and paste in one go
[09:55] <Mr> theine: i just figured that out
[09:55] <Martoludia> robertj Ctrl+c does not work for me
[09:55] <robertj> anything interesting in dmesg?
[09:55] <idefix_> what do I 'apt-get update' to view simple movies from websites?
[09:55] <theine> Mr, good!
[09:55] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i ran the fglrxconfig to generate the new xorg.conf that i am using right now
[09:55] <Mr> theine: im new at this, but im learnign quick :D
[09:55] <owner> thats a great command glacious
[09:56] <y_o_u> gnomefreak: sorry, did not know
[09:56] <matid> Martoludia: maybe some of your hardware broke
[09:56] <owner> too bad ati has removed it from the next fglrx drivers
[09:56] <theine> Mr, nice
[09:56] <matid> Martoludia: I wasn't able to go past hotplug when my sound card broke
[09:56] <glacious> tonyyarusso: wouldn't xorg-server-fglrx and fglrx-control both generage xorg.confs?
[09:56] <Martoludia> Matcher all my hardware is fine but i think may be GF6600 is too big for ubuntu ?
[09:56] <Martoludia> too new and fast
[09:56] <idefix_> since I'm not registered I cannot talk to ubotu?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> glacious, I don't think they do on their own.
[09:56] <Martoludia> sorry matid *
[09:57] <Mr> theine: now only one last query, what is the command line command for delete ;P
[09:57] <matid> rm
[09:57] <theine> Mr, rm
[09:57] <Mr> ty
[09:57] <Mr> i love you all.
[09:57] <Dreamglider> is it easy to setup irda in ubuntu ?
[09:57] <glacious> tonyyarusso: but the module should auto-load on reboot?
[09:57] <theine> Mr, we love you too
[09:57] <Martoludia> well how could i get this Ubuntu to start
[09:57] <Prozac> I cant boot boot if my soundcard (Audigy 2 ZS Notebook) is plugged in :( really sux, could use some proper sound
[09:58] <Mr> now what if you want to get a whole directory
[09:58] <Martoludia> is it possible that ubuntu cannot start with GF6600 ?
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> glacious, I believe so, on the basis that I didn't have to do anything special for that.
[09:58] <Mr> nm, i got it
[09:58] <matid> Prozac: are you sure the card itself is ok?
[09:58] <Prozac> yeah cause it worked in windows
[09:58] <matid> Prozac: but have you checked it recently?
[09:59] <Prozac> yeah, it was working just before i installed ubuntu
[09:59] <glacious> tonyyarusso: i don't have xorg-server-fglrx installed.
[09:59] <matid> Prozac: so try to disable motherboard sound card in bios
[09:59] <Prozac> installed ubuntu like 2 weeks ago. If i boot from live cd it also freezes with the soundcard plugged in
[09:59] <glacious> tonyyarusso: just fglrx-control, but it is using hte fglrx drivers.
[10:00] <irma> heey all
[10:00] <matid> Prozac: that's what usually conflicts with it
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> glacious, You're going to need that.  That's the driver itself, fglrx-control is just an interface to configure it...
[10:00] <mcdenyer> hey i need help remounting an ntfs thats already mounted but i dont have permissions to it
[10:00] <Prozac> hmmm okay, ill see if i can find it in the bios
[10:00] <Martoludia> is it possible that Ubuntu cannot start if i have GF6600GT ?
[10:00] <Martoludia> PCI EXpress card
[10:00] <Martoludia> ?
[10:00] <metal> could you explain this to me?
[10:00] <irma> i cant install skype..does someone hase linc where i can easy download it?
[10:00] <metal> http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories
[10:00] <gnudreamer> anyone have a functioning tv capture card running in ubuntu?
[10:00] <bryanl> ubuntu works with pci express cards..
[10:00] <Noah> ompaul: I didn't have to endure any pain.  I came across a package of Rhythmbox online that was already to go for Ubuntu.
[10:00] <glacious> tonyyarusso: weird.  maybe synaptic installed it itself.   http://pastebin.com/517961
[10:00] <bryanl> i'm running one right now
[10:01] <Martoludia> bryanl i cant get to load
[10:01] <matid> gnudreamer:I have
[10:01] <Martoludia> it stucks at hotplug
[10:01] <metal> i get 404 after doing that
[10:01] <gnudreamer> what do you use?
[10:01] <bryanl> Martoludia, it hands?
[10:01] <matid> sw or hw?
[10:01] <bryanl> it hangs?
[10:01] <gnudreamer> was it difficult to configure?
[10:01] <gnudreamer> sw
[10:01] <glacious> tonyyarusso: err not that pastebin...
[10:01] <glacious> i'm gonna reboot and see what happens
[10:01] <gnudreamer> and hw
[10:01] <Martoludia> brainball hangs
[10:01] <Martoludia> bryanl hangs
[10:01] <Martoludia> yes
[10:01] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Martoludia: Does your computer also have an integrated chip?  Hotplug handles combined integrated and add-on graphics cards very badly.
[10:02] <Martoludia> i have integrated sound
[10:02] <Martoludia> ?
[10:02] <Martoludia> is that the problem ?
[10:02] <matid> Now I don't need recording so I use tvtime, but I recall using myth-tv for it
[10:02] <gnudreamer> my card has been a nightmare that i have given up on so im just going to buy a new one
[10:02] <matid> Martoludia: sound shouldn't conflict
[10:02] <PuMpErNiCkEl> Martoludia: Shouldn't be, only an integrated graphics chip + an add-on one.
[10:02] <Martoludia> well what is it than...
[10:02] <Xeppo> ok, I have a problem with my ubuntu installation
[10:03] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, hey man
[10:03] <Matcher> must go today message me if interestedon aim at mikcomputing, msn at mcsltd3@hotmail.com or yahoo at mcsltd2 only if your interested and want to buy! .  prices are 550 each includes shipping case and wireless router.2 alienware products, 1 area51-m 5700 notebook, and one area51 7500 desktop tower system.
[10:03] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, you helped me a while back set up meadi for the net
[10:03] <matid> gnudreamer: I had problems with my too, it was detected but wrong tuner was choosen
[10:03] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, and i was wondering if you could help me do it again
[10:03] <matid> Xeppo: what's that?
[10:03] <Xeppo> I'm on a Toshiba Satellite a85-s1072, and I can't for the life of me get the ATI drivers functioning properly
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Refresh my memory, meadi?
[10:03] <gnudreamer> matid i tried like 10 different configurations...my card was detected as a capture card
[10:04] <gnudreamer> but it never actuall worked
[10:04] <RailerJim> Xeppo, whats it doing?
[10:04] <bryanl> i'm so happy.   i finally found an 802.11g card that doesn't cause ndiswrapper to crash
[10:04] <matid> gnudreamer: what card?
[10:04] <Xeppo> dxdiag tells me that I'm running a "MOBILITY RADEON 9000 IGP AGP (0x7835)
[10:04] <gnudreamer> aitech pci wavewatcher
[10:04] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, media
[10:04] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, like sewting up to play vidoes of the net
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Ah okay.  mplayer plugins and the like?
[10:04] <renfrew> afternoon, I am trying to install the Intel VTune profiler. However duiring the install it looks to see if chkconfig exists. I am new to ubuntu and debian, but as i understand it they don't use chkconfig. Is there a way to install it or has anyone gotton Vtune to install other than the provided scripts?
[10:04] <gnudreamer> works fine in winblowz
[10:04] <bluesign> any idea about "  PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device 0000:01:00.0
[10:04] <bluesign>  "
[10:05] <BrickMaker> which java file i should download from java site.. a rpm file or self extracting file
[10:05] <LNova_> _jason?
[10:05] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok
[10:05] <Xeppo> RailerJim: after I installed it and did te modifications thye wiki told me to do, It tells me that it can't find any devices when x tries to start
[10:05] <bryanl> is there a version of top that i can use to view both cpus separately?
[10:05] <SkrotFFS> Hi. I'm compiling my own kernel. Do I *have* to use initrd?
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Which version of Firefox?
[10:05] <mcdenyer> mcdenyer, i installed mplayer but it sucked
[10:05] <owner> no you dont skrotffs
[10:05] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, the version that came with breezy
[10:05] <SkrotFFS> owner: okay. What's it for anyway?
[10:06] <BrickMaker> which java file i should download from java site.. a rpm file or self extracting file
[10:06] <matid> gnudreamer: sorry, I'm afraid I can't help you, I have Leadtek WinFast 2000XP RM or sth like this
[10:06] <luite> BrickMaker: you can use java-package to build the deb packages from the self extracting file
[10:06] <matid> BrickMaker: self-extracting
[10:06] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, self extracting
[10:06] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, and you had me installed something else besides mplayer and it worked alot better
[10:06] <Xeppo> RailerJim: a little interesting tidbit, but when I google (0x7835), it's apparently seen as a 9200 IGP, not a 9000.
[10:06] <BrickMaker> Ok guys!
[10:06] <LNova_> _jason?
[10:06] <Graider> BrickMaker: OK!
[10:06] <owner> its if you want to load some stuff as modules
[10:06] <gnudreamer> oh hmmm is there a list somewhere of the easiest tv caputure card to us in ubuntu?
[10:06] <owner> but you dont have to use it
[10:06] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, when i use mplayer the videos never finish they just stop after a while and the audio almost never kicks in
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, As in an alternative, or addon?
[10:07] <BrickMaker> Its a .bin file
[10:07] <Xeppo> RailerJim: (0x7834 is a 9000)
[10:07] <RailerJim> Xeppo, I had a similar problem on the same computer with suse, but after I did a update the problem disappeared, but your problem seems a bit more heavy duty
[10:07] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, i installed all the codecs i needed already
[10:07] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, i dont know
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, As far as I know I've always recommended mplayer, as that's what I use.
[10:07] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, well i installed m player but its not the same thing that u had me install
[10:07] <BrickMaker> how do i install .bin file (bin file is java web support)
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, There is the mozilla-mplayer plugin package though, perhaps that?
[10:07] <Xeppo> RailerJim: Yep :-/
[10:07] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, maybe u had me get a newer vserion
[10:07] <gnudreamer> I really like linux but you have to be uber patiet to do anything non-standard
[10:07] <matid> gnudreamer: there was sth like this on forums, but they're down temporarly
[10:07] <MachineScrew> how can I get access to my web server from the Internet
[10:08] <ljlolel> whoami
[10:08] <MachineScrew> i have ports forwarded
[10:08] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Maybe also gstreamer0.8*
[10:08] <_TomB> .j
[10:08] <ljlolel> :whoami
[10:08] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, yeah i have all those gstreamer codecs
[10:08] <BrickMaker> i'v downloaded Self extracting java bin file so now how do i install it on my ubuntu
[10:08] <matid> MachineScrew: if you forwared your 80 port it should be like router_ip:router_port
[10:08] <owner> brickmaker ./file.bin
[10:08] <matid> So it would get you to pc_ip:80
[10:09] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, if you could just step me thourgh it like u did last time
[10:09] <MachineScrew> matid, i did
[10:09] <ljlolel> what is that program that lets me go betwen desktops in gnome by just moving to the right or left?
[10:09] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, but i already have the codecs
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, I'm at a little bit of a loss as to what else it might have been.  There's a VLC plugin for Firefox too, but I haven't used it.
[10:09] <matid> BrickMaker: but that depends on how you configured your router
[10:09] <MachineScrew> ok
[10:09] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, i think it mightve been gstearmer
[10:09] <_jason> mcdenyer: you should not use those fmask and dmask settings.  Those are for fat32, you are using ntfs
[10:09] <_jason> LiNova: still around?
[10:09] <matid> BrickMaker: it should work like this
[10:09] <Xeppo> RailerJim: is there any way I can get the ATI fglrx driver to recognize a (0x7835)?
[10:09] <mcdenyer> _jason the tut hast those under ntfs
[10:09] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Okay, sudo apt-get install mplayer-386 mozilla-mplayer gstreamer0.8*
[10:10] <BrickMaker> matid, hey from where router comes i'm asking about java installation
[10:10] <mcdenyer> mcdenyer, but the tut also said hda1 and mine is sda5
[10:10] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Hope that it links automatically.
[10:10] <gnudreamer> is it possible i am the only human being on the planet that is trying to use my capture card in the ubuntu environment?
[10:10] <BrickMaker> i hope you might be saying these words for someone else
[10:10] <ljlolel> the desktop switching program has this weird name, like banana or something
[10:10] <_jason> mcdenyer: ok never mind, you can use that.  I didn't see the 'ro'
[10:10] <owner> ubuntuforums are back up
[10:10] <BrickMaker> lol gnudreamer
[10:10] <matid> yay, it must have been just a minte ago
[10:10] <metrix> "smbmnt can be installed setuid root if
[10:10] <metrix>        you want normal users to be able to mount their SMB shares." <-- I have located smbmnt, how do I change the setuid to root?
[10:10] <dogson> gnudreamer, mine works just fine, Hauppauge PVR 250 :)
[10:11] <gnudreamer> i will have to sell my current one and get a hauppauge
[10:11] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, If not, sudo ln -s /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/* /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/
[10:11] <mcdenyer> _jason should those options work for sad5 or only hdas?
[10:11] <gnudreamer> unless i can find a way to hack the driver correctly
[10:11] <gnudreamer> i just have no wat to measure my progress
[10:11] <chance2105> Where can I find a copy of the "official" Firefox icon?
[10:12] <_jason> mcdenyer: should work for both I believe
[10:12] <tonyyarusso> chance2105, Probably in /usr/share/pixmaps/
[10:12] <allan_> is cedega the only good gaming software? is there any free stuff thats nearly as functional or easy?
[10:12] <SAM_theman> i am back guys
[10:12] <SAM_theman> what
[10:12] <SAM_theman> cedega?
[10:12] <matid> allan_: you can try wine but it's not that good
[10:12] <ompaul> allan_, you can hack wine to the best of your abilities
[10:13] <dogson> gnudreamer, what chipset do you got in the capture card?
[10:13] <kent> allan_, well, you have some native commersial games for linux, and some free games which are fun. :)
[10:13] <matid> allan_: afaik there is no good alternative
[10:13] <allan_> thought so
[10:13] <SAM_theman> allan what version
[10:13] <matid> despite running native games ;)
[10:13] <SAM_theman> ALLAN
[10:13] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, i did that first command u gave me and it installsed sucessfully
[10:13] <SAM_theman> :D
[10:13] <allan_> for now ill just keep dual booting windoze for games :P
[10:13] <gnudreamer> dogson uhmm i have a bunch of data on the card but im not sure what you are asking?
[10:13] <allan_> what version of what?
[10:13] <tatters> cant for the life of me find php.ini
[10:13] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, now do i do that second one u gave me?
[10:14] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, If things are working already, then it's not necessary.  If you have problems still, try it.
[10:14] <L_Nova> _jason?
[10:14] <chance2105> tonyyarusso:  Nope .. it's not distributed with Ubuntu (or Debian for that matter) because the codebase is altered, a restriction of the license unfortunately
[10:14] <ompaul> allan_, why not send the box covers back to the originating company and ask them a binary and or source for your linux version
[10:14] <_jason> L_Nova: if you follow what I said, it should work
[10:14] <mcdenyer> _jason and when i add those things to the options do i delete defaults and replace it with the options or just add on the extra options?
[10:14] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok it finished dling how do i get firefox to use the new stuff?;
[10:14] <_jason> mcdenyer: you can delete the options that are there and replace it with what the wiki says
[10:15] <L_Nova> _Jason, was i supposed to type "sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntuhd" all in one go?
[10:15] <tonyyarusso> chance2105, Really?  Interesting.
[10:15] <JarG0n> how can I install a *.run file that I just downloaded for Quake4 ?
[10:15] <Prozac> matid: maybe im just stupid, but i cant seem to find a way to disable my onboard sound in my bios... (regarding the possible conflict between my Audigy Cardbus soundcard and onboard sound)
[10:15] <mcdenyer> _jason so should i now beable to mount it without being root?
[10:15] <_jason> L_Nova: yes (you don't have to, it was just to condense the command, but it will work like that)
[10:15] <chance2105> tonyyarusso:  there are reams of discussion on debian -devel and -legal, so when I installed Unbuntu it didn't surprise me it used Debian's icon for it
[10:16] <_jason> mcdenyer: no it mounts automatically unless you told it not to, but you can read it and execute without being root
[10:16] <matid> Prozac: hm... I don't remember where it's supposed to be but it should be there
[10:16] <_jason> mcdenyer: well not yet, do 'sudo mount -a' after you are done editing fstab
[10:16] <mcdonaldsguy> how do I make an iso from a dvd?  I've been trying dd if=/dev/dvd of=img.iso, but the files are coming out tiny (a few megs)
[10:16] <tonyyarusso> chance2105, I can give you mine (from Firefox 1.5 install).
[10:16] <steve_> hey is anyone familiar with gnumeric?
[10:16] <mcdenyer> _jason like theres a shortvut on my desktop to it should i be able to just dbl click it and look at it?
[10:16] <L_Nova> _Jason, cos when i typed that in, it said "command not found"
[10:16] <mcdenyer> _jason ok
[10:16] <matid> Prozac: what bios vendor?
[10:17] <Aladdin-> Hi folks :)
[10:17] <Prozac> think its called PhoenixBIOS
[10:17] <_jason> L_Nova: which command was not found?
[10:17] <L_Nova> sudo mkdir /mnt/ubuntuhd && sudo mount /dev/hda2 /mnt/ubuntuhd
[10:17] <chance2105> tonyyarusso:  Thanks for the offer .. I just found it :)
[10:17] <steve_> in gnumeric, I want to add all values in a column that are less than zero.
[10:17] <gnudreamer> dogsun I cant find the chipset anywhere on aitech s site or in the manual
[10:18] <_jason> L_Nova: no, the error should tell you which one.  Check for typos
[10:18] <chance2105> for anyone interested:  http://www.actsofvolition.com/archives/2004/february/brandingmozilla
[10:18] <tonyyarusso> chance2105, That works too.
[10:18] <mcdenyer> _jason omfg i somehow erased my ntfs
[10:18] <Aladdin-> Guess what... Got a prob. :o| [10:18] <mcdenyer> _jason wtf i never touched it
[10:18] <JarG0n> Does Ubuntu come with HTML documentation on 'sudo' and other commands?
[10:18] <L_Nova> ok, i'll check
[10:18] <_jason> mcdenyer: is windows on there?
[10:18] <kent> JarG0n, there might be in System->Help
[10:19] <C-O-L-T> _jason: guess
[10:19] <JarG0n> thx
[10:19] <C-O-L-T> _jason: hello
[10:19] <_jason> C-O-L-T: hello
[10:19] <ubuntu> hello
[10:19] <mcdenyer> _jason no i had windows on a smaller partition and then i had a big partition with all my music and downloads and docs on it
[10:19] <ubuntu> how is everyone this afternoon
[10:19] <mcdenyer> _jason and somehow it got erased i guess when i installed ubutnut
[10:19] <bryanl> its a damn shame the new computers all have sata
[10:19] <mcdenyer> _jason but i never touched the partition only the ext3
[10:19] <_jason> mcdenyer: have you booted windows and checked?
[10:19] <gnudreamer> ubuntu im frustrated with my pvr card
[10:19] <bryanl> my still brand new shiny 300GB disk has no where to go :(
[10:20] <mcdenyer> _jason i dont have windos installed rightn ow
[10:20] <ilinux4000> how can I find out what name my devices are in /dev?
[10:20] <C-O-L-T> _jason: I installed to one of my friend's pc ubuntu cause he was amased about my pc, and he was lost in Linux, he is using windows for  12 years as I, and after 2 hours he decided to swith back to windows :))))
[10:20] <ubuntu> i need help when someones finish please
[10:20] <ilinux4000> i just attached a flash card and have no idea what it's called
[10:20] <matid> Prozac: hm... there are some problems with your bios regarding this. There should be a menu 'Onboard Audio Options' but some other PhoenixBios users reported, that it's missing even though it appears in the user guide...
[10:20] <mcdenyer> _jason ive mounted and seen all my stuff on ubuntu before ive seen that exact partition and read off it
[10:20] <_jason> C-O-L-T: #ubuntu-offtopic please
[10:20] <jared_> i saved a wrong password for my thunderbird , and i set it do put it in automaticlly, how do i change it
[10:20] <jared_> ?
[10:20] <mcdenyer> _jason when i open it up its justy empty
[10:21] <mcdenyer> _jason whould i unmount and remount it??
[10:21] <matid> Prozac: don't know if I can help you, I have different bios, try googling for it because it's most likely to cause your sound card problems
[10:21] <ilinux4000> anybody here ever used a hd or flash drive with ubuntu?
[10:21] <matid> Prozac: just like here: http://www.techspot.com/vb/all/windows/t-32417-New-Soundcard-has-problems.html
[10:21] <ilinux4000> and know how to find it's device name?
[10:21] <_jason> mcdenyer: I don't see what good that would do, but you can try.  When was the last time you saw data in there?
[10:21] <ilinux4000> can you even do that in linux/
[10:21] <ilinux4000> anybody?
[10:21] <ubuntu> if i download internet explorer on my ubuntu would it work properly or no??
[10:21] <C-O-L-T> _jason: I could not manage to swith to linux. I am so happy and proud of me that I managed after 12 years of windows dominion
[10:21] <_jason> ilinux4000: yes
[10:21] <mcdenyer> _jason when i installed hoary and then upgraded to breezy and then mounted it
[10:21] <Prozac> matid: Okay, thanks alot ill see what i can find. That audio options is indeed missing, ill see if i can maybe do a bios update or something
[10:22] <Aladdin-> Got a prob. :o| [10:22] <mcdenyer> _jason how do i unmount?
[10:22] <ompaul> C-O-L-T, can you go to #ubuntu-offtopic please, I would like to get you into a position where that does not happen to you again
[10:22] <ilinux4000> _jason, do you know how I can find the /dev name of my flash disk?
[10:22] <_jason> ilinux4000: I don't.  When I plug mine is gnome tells me about it
[10:22] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: what is the problem here i don't understand
[10:22] <owner> aladdin are you trying to startx as root
[10:22] <ilinux4000> _jason, ie. /dev/fda1
[10:22] <ilinux4000> _jason, I have gnome but it sucks
[10:22] <ki4ikl> i saved the wrong password in my thunderbird profile, how do i change it
[10:22] <_jason> mcdenyer: umount /mount/point
[10:23] <ilinux4000> _jason, it doesn't give any info like that
[10:23] <ompaul> this is a help channel, you are now in a chatting channel :)
[10:23] <_jason> mcdenyer: pastebin your fstab
[10:23] <matid> ki4ikl: it's somewhere in Edit->Preferences
[10:23] <mcdenyer> k
[10:23] <mcdenyer> !pastebin
[10:23] <ubotu> somebody said pastebin was a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> ompaul: what is this offtopic thing
[10:23] <Aladdin-> owner: nop just to reboot normal after a crash. had to chdsk manually.
[10:23] <C-O-L-T> ?
[10:23] <ilinux4000> _jason, and there's no mycomputer type thing that allows you to browse that, the new version of ubuntu has something like that but not this one
[10:23] <Dreamglider> i just changed the grapic card on a pc, how can i have ubuntu setup the new card ?
[10:23] <matid> About privacy and passwords, don't remeber and don't have access to tb either
[10:23] <_jason> ilinux4000: well one way you could figure out is remove your usb key, run df, put it back in and run df afterwards.  Or use dmesg I guess
[10:23] <mcdenyer> _jason,  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7495
[10:23] <tatters> libphp-adodb isn't longer installed in /usr/lib/adodb. New installation path is now /usr/share/adodb.  
[10:23] <tatters>                                                                                                           
[10:23] <tatters>    Please update your php.ini file. Maybe you must also change your web-server configuraton for this.
[10:24] <seele96> hey guys, I dont understand the concept of Symlink, im suposed to Create a symlink from /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so to /usr/lib/opera/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[10:24] <ilinux4000> _jason, df?
[10:24] <matid> Dreamglider: it should be detected and configured after restart
[10:24] <_jason> ilinux4000: the command 'df', try it
[10:24] <L_Nova> _jason, the last bit, "make the first line look like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7491 (where your hostname is in /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hostname).  Copy this and save it somewhere :)"
[10:24] <_jason> L_Nova: yes?
[10:24] <ilinux4000> _jason, card is in but not listed hmmm
[10:24] <tatters> caan anyone tell where the php.ini file is??
[10:24] <L_Nova> so i just put paul instead of my_hostname?
[10:24] <ilinux4000> _jason gotta love linux
[10:24] <Dreamglider> matid, it didnt, i just got a bunch of errors and ended in terminal
[10:24] <mwe> tatters: locate php.ini
[10:24] <fr500> ilinux4000, after connecting it type dmesg | taik
[10:25] <fr500> ilinux4000, after connecting it type dmesg | tail
[10:25] <matid> Dreamglider: what was your previous card and what is your current one
[10:25] <mwe> tatters: /etc/php5/apache2/php.ini here
[10:25] <ilinux4000> dmesg!!!
[10:25] <tatters> k thnx let me look
[10:25] <matid> Dreamglider: you'll probably have to change your drivers, at least that's how it seems
[10:25] <ilinux4000> that's the command fr500 that i was looking for
[10:25] <Aladdin-> owner: still there?
[10:25] <fr500> kk
[10:25] <L_Nova> _jason:  so i just put paul instead of my_hostname?
[10:25] <Dreamglider> i replaced a matrox with a micro-star
[10:25] <owner> aladdin try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:26] <_jason> L_Nova: is that what /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hostname says?
[10:26] <Aladdin-> owner: k i do that and bbl . thx
[10:26] <Dreamglider> cant i have ubuntu scan for the new hardware and load the drivers needed ?
[10:26] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok i got the stuff now how do i get firefox to play media with it?
[10:26] <mwe> Dreamglider: you don't scan for hardwary in linux
[10:27] <owner> dreamglider kernel detects hardware
[10:27] <tatters> k thnnx mwe,found it .... I was looking under user
[10:27] <Dreamglider> oh
[10:27] <mwe> Dreamglider: the kernel should recognize it
[10:27] <Xeppo> RailerJim: So you have the same laptop that I do?
[10:27] <mwe> Dreamglider: check dmesg
[10:27] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, It should already.  Have you tried?  Otherwise do the symlink.  That's all I've got.
[10:27] <RailerJim> yes
[10:27] <Xeppo> RailerJim: Do you have graphics acceleration?
[10:28] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso  can u type thaty out again?
[10:28] <L_Nova> _jason, when i put "/mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hostname" i get "permission denied"
[10:28] <RailerJim> yes I think so,
[10:28] <_jason> L_Nova: gedit /mnt/ubuntuhd/etc/hostname
[10:28] <Twan> can anyone tell me where vsftpd installs when I instlal the package
[10:28] <pcharky> Hello people, I'v having problems my line-in to work.
[10:28] <Xeppo> RailerJim: With Suse?
[10:28] <ilinux4000> thanks everyone, someday linux will be as easy and reliable as OS X so we don't need these forums anymore
[10:28] <owner> twan type whereis vsftpd
[10:28] <owner> in a terminal
[10:28] <ilinux4000> eixt
[10:28] <RailerJim> no, sorry,
[10:28] <mwe> _jason: dpkg -L vsftpd
[10:29] <RailerJim> talking to two people\
[10:29] <_jason> mwe: ?
[10:29] <MickMcMack> Ahoy, can I write a CD ISO to a DVD and boot it? >_>
[10:29] <owner> isnt that a waste of a dvd mick
[10:29] <mwe> _jason: nick confusion :)
[10:29] <RailerJim> no your right I looked into the graphics card completely
[10:29] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[10:29] <ubotu> well, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[10:29] <_jason> mwe: ah :)
[10:30] <Xeppo> Murrrrrr
[10:30] <Dreamglider> mwe: agpgart:  detected an intel 440X chipset
[10:30] <mwe> Twan: dpkg -L vsftpd
[10:30] <Dreamglider> mwe: agpgart:  AGP is 64Mb
[10:30] <L_Nova> _jason: it says my hostname is ubuntu
[10:30] <mwe> Dreamglider: yes
[10:31] <_jason> L_Nova: ok, that's what you put
[10:31] <MickMcMack> owner, I have no CDs.
[10:31] <JarG0n> Is there a window tile option in GNOME?
[10:31] <L_Nova> ok t6hanks
[10:31] <MickMcMack> owner, I do have DVDs.
[10:31] <ljlolel> !brightside
[10:31] <ubotu> ljlolel: Not a clue
[10:31] <owner> it should work mickmcmack
[10:31] <MickMcMack> Okies, thanks. ^^
[10:31] <MickMcMack> Soon I shall corrupt my parent's PC with Ubuntu!
[10:31] <MickMcMack> *Evil Laughter*
[10:32] <owner> lol mick
[10:32] <owner> they usually dont like the grub screen
[10:32] <_jason> MickMcMack: you mean cleanse of course
[10:32] <MickMcMack> Yes, cleanse, of course... >_>
[10:32] <NigelS> MickMcMack: you shall "enlighten" it rather :)
[10:32] <ilinux4000> oh sorry, one more question, how do I find out the mount point of a given device?
[10:32] <MickMcMack> :)
[10:32] <L_Nova> __jason, is that it?
[10:32] <_jason> L_Nova: yep
[10:32] <varsendagger> how do i cp a program and makesure that i am not just making a symlink
[10:33] <L_Nova> so when i restart i can use the admin stuff?
[10:33] <mcdenyer> _jason whats my mount point?
[10:33] <NigelS> ilinux4000: type mount and you can see all the current mounts
[10:33] <Dreamglider> i'll just put the older grapic card back in
[10:33] <ilinux4000> NigelS, thaks
[10:33] <ilinux4000> thnaks
[10:33] <ilinux4000> thanks
[10:33] <L_Nova> *_jason,  so when i restart i can use the admin stuff?
[10:33] <_jason> mcdenyer: according to your fstab: /media/sda5
[10:33] <mlalkaka> i got my winmodem/linmodem set up thanks to the ubuntu wiki. but now i'm looking for call-display software for linux. does anyone know where i can find something like that?
[10:33] <MrPockets> could dicking with my repositorys be the cause of my Java no longer working?
[10:33] <_jason> L_Nova: hopefully, go try it
[10:33] <mcdenyer> _jason, so to unmount i would to umount /media/sda5 ?
[10:33] <borisattva> does anyone know if accessing the same SMB via two different applications at the same time could lock both up and the nautilus session that has that smb on display at the moment?
[10:33] <L_Nova> cool, thanks
[10:34] <_jason> mcdenyer: yes
[10:34] <ilinux4000> NigelS, didn't work
[10:34] <ilinux4000> NigelS, didn't show my flash card
[10:34] <mcdenyer> !ntfs
[10:34] <frazmanw> I am used to having a network icon in "cumputer" in nautalus, and I son't on my ubuntu box. Can I add it?
[10:34] <ubotu> I heard ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[10:34] <Xeppo> RailerJim: So what distro are you using on that lappy?
[10:35] <RailerJim> Suse 10
[10:35] <RailerJim> works great,
[10:36] <ilinux4000> NigelS, it's asking me for a mount point and I can't find it
[10:36] <mcdenyer> _jason, i also need to delete the sad5 line from stab right?
[10:36] <mcdenyer> _jason, to dismount
[10:36] <_jason> mcdenyer: only if you want to never have it automatically mount
[10:36] <mcdenyer> _jason well im just unmounting it and the remouting it using diskmounter
[10:36] <ilinux4000> NigelS, it says: Which directory should the disk or flash card mount? (default=/mnt/cf):
[10:36] <_jason> mcdenyer: in that case you should just comment or use the (I think) noauto option
[10:37] <ilinux4000> and /mnt/cf does not work, Nigel
[10:37] <ilinux4000> S
[10:37] <_jason> mcdenyer: I don't know what diskmounter is but I doubt you need to remove it from fstab
[10:37] <mcdenyer> _jason i just cant remount it becuase it says its already in fstab
[10:37] <_jason> mcdenyer: no
[10:37] <_jason> mcdenyer: to mount again just do 'sudo mount -a'
[10:37] <mcdenyer> _jason its the script in wiki to mount
[10:37] <ilinux4000> anybody?>
[10:37] <_jason> mcdenyer: that command just loads your fstab again
[10:37] <ilinux4000> Windows XP
[10:38] <_jason> ilinux4000: mine mounts to /dev/sda1
[10:38] <ilinux4000> _jason, that's the /dev/ mount
[10:38] <mcdenyer> _jason hey guess what
[10:38] <ilinux4000> _jason, i need the mount mount
[10:38] <mcdenyer> _jason the stuff is back i didnt erase it :)
[10:38] <_jason> ilinux4000: /media/usbdisk
[10:38] <ilinux4000> _jason, don't know what that means
[10:38] <ilinux4000> _jason, it's not usb htough
[10:38] <ilinux4000> it's cf
[10:38] <_jason> ilinux4000: oh
[10:39] <L_Nova> _jason W00T, It works!!! I dont know how to thank you enough, thank you thank you. you are the best!!!!
[10:39] <_jason> L_Nova: np
[10:39] <_jason> mcdenyer: great
[10:39] <_jason> ilinux4000: I see, but gnome recognizes it and it shows up in places menu?
[10:39] <lord_stuart> hello
[10:39] <ilinux4000> _jason, places menu????
[10:39] <_jason> ilinux4000: does it show up anywhere?
[10:40] <Doomhammer> guys how come I can't mount CDs any more? the directories /media/cdrom0 and /media/cdrom1 have permissions of drwx------
[10:40] <ilinux4000> i was able to format it with fdsk _jason
[10:40] <ilinux4000> _jason /dev/hde1
[10:40] <ilinux4000> _jason but i don't know the mount point
[10:40] <lord_stuart> i still cant change permisions on folders on hard drive
[10:40] <L_Nova> _jason Thanks man
[10:40] <ilinux4000> _jason and i'm getting pissed off because this is all automatic in windows
[10:40] <_jason> ilinux4000: are you sure it's mounted (ie has a mount point) ?
[10:41] <ilinux4000> _jason, i have no clue
[10:41] <lord_stuart> i have dual booted my pc and want to see my files on my ntsf drive
[10:41] <ilinux4000> _jason, i don't know how to check
[10:41] <Doomhammer> why can't I cd into /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom1 ????
[10:41] <_jason> ilinux4000: if it's not listed in df, I think that means it's not mounted
[10:41] <mwe> !tell lord_stuart about ntfs
[10:41] <ilinux4000> _jason, ok it's listed in dmesg but not df, so i guess it's not moutned
[10:41] <ilinux4000> _jason, it beeps twice and i thoguht that menas it was mounted
[10:41] <JarG0n> how do I create the directory /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base ?
[10:42] <ilinux4000> _jason so maybe it's just bs
[10:42] <lord_stuart> i managed to see my ntfs files at one point but now they are gone
[10:42] <tatters> libphp-adodb isn't longer installed in /usr/lib/adodb. New installation path is now /usr/share/adodb     then it says I have to edit php.ini to reflect this but where do I put the new url
[10:42] <ilinux4000> _jason, why is this so complicated?
[10:42] <mwe> JarG0n: sudo mkdir -p /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base
[10:42] <JarG0n> thx!
[10:42] <ilinux4000> _jason just trying ot load data to a flash card
[10:42] <_jason> ilinux4000: I don't know, what kind of flash drive is this?  the usb loads up fine
[10:42] <fr500> can't believe it took 2 hours of hard work to complide and build a current bmpx deb
[10:42] <mlalkaka> i got my winmodem/linmodem set up thanks to the ubuntu wiki. but now i'm looking for call-display software for linux. does anyone know where i can find something like that?
[10:42] <fr500> maybe i suck
[10:42] <ilinux4000> _jason compact flash
[10:43] <ilinux4000> _jason linux is such a freaking toy operating system
[10:43] <lord_stuart> i know ubuntu is free an we all hate microsoft but put it bluntly ,, microsoft is easy an you get stuff done with it ubuntu cant do anything
[10:43] <ompaul> ilinux4000, toy? can you help me understand that?
[10:43] <fr500> lord_stuart, everything i have tried works for me
[10:43] <mwe> lord_stuart: crap
[10:43] <_jason> ilinux4000: I'd suggest you try mounting it by hand to a folder in /media/ that you create
[10:43] <Doomhammer> ilinux: just because YOU don't know how to use it doesn't mean you can go around bashing it
[10:43] <mwe> lord_stuart: get back to windows and stop trolling
[10:44] <ilinux4000> _jason, sure but how?
[10:44] <fr500> lord_stuart, and the only device that didnt work was an usb 1.0 hdd with no linux drivers
[10:44] <psYchotic> exactly what I needed
[10:44] <lord_stuart> yes it does work but so does xp an xp is much easyer to use
[10:44] <Dr_Willis> dont get me started on the fighting ive had to do with XP to get even basic things working
[10:44] <_jason> non one forces anyone to use linux, use it if you want... continue if #ubuntu-offtopic if you want
[10:44] <ilinux4000> lord_stuart, right one, i've been developing for linux for 5 years and still get stuck on the basics
[10:44] <Doomhammer> lord_stuart: learn how to use linux, then it's easy to use too... only difference is, any moron can use windows, linux is different
[10:45] <ilinux4000> lord_stuart in 15 years linux will be decent though
[10:45] <rick_> hey - we have a printer connected to our ubuntu desktop, but printing to it from windows is not working
[10:45] <lord_stuart> i like ubuntu well more than windows xp but im getting sick of how hard it is to use ubuntu
[10:45] <mwe> ilinux4000: that's total crap
[10:45] <rick_> can anyone guide us in trouble shooting/
[10:45] <rick_> ?
[10:45] <psYchotic> people I have a little problem here: after writing on a blank cd-rom with gnomebaker and ejecting it, the icon "Blank CD-R Disc" stays on my desktop. Not only that, but my "Computer" is full of devices like CD-RW/DVD+/- Drive (1 thru 3 atm)
[10:45] <ilinux4000> mwe, i guess i'm just optimistic :-)
[10:45] <Dr_Willis> it pays to learn the fundamentals of Linux
[10:46] <ompaul> ilinux4000, lord_stuart if you want a discussion go to #ubuntu-offtopic else ask specific questions and work with those who will help you
[10:46] <mwe> ilinux4000: linux has been way more stable for 15 years than windows will ever be
[10:46] <ilinux4000> _jason, any idea how to do something as simple as mount?
[10:46] <ompaul> !attitude
[10:46] <ubotu> The people in #ubuntu are volunteers, your attitude determines their willingness to help you out.
[10:46] <Doomhammer> ilinux: it's really easy, sudo mount <device> <mount point>
[10:46] <mwe> ilinux4000: did you try something as simple as typing mount
[10:46] <ilba7r> hi is there is a work around for websites that would only work with IE
[10:46] <ilinux4000> _jason, cause i think we've agreed this is going to be a long and tedious process, i'm up for this for the next few horus
[10:46] <_jason> ilinux4000: remeber to actually create the <mount point> first
[10:47] <ompaul> mwe, you are feeding the trolls leave it man, your better than that
[10:47] <lord_stuart> this ubuntu is very stable i think it runs great on my athlon 64
[10:47] <Doomhammer> ilba7r: it is possible to run IE in WINE ... :/
[10:47] <_jason> ilinux4000: it's just what doomhammer said
[10:47] <mwe> ompaul: maybe
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  you can alwqys tell the browser to identify as ie.
[10:47] <ilba7r> ompaul, that is an excellent factoid hope i new about it long ago ;)
[10:47] <matid> ilba7r: sometimes you just need to change your ua
[10:47] <lightbright> is there any other browser besides Firefox we can use on Breezy?
[10:47] <Dr_Willis> ilba7r,  but if the site must use ActiveX stuff- well you maybe SOL.
[10:47] <ompaul> ilba7r, :-)
[10:47] <Doomhammer> lightbright: opera, lynx
[10:47] <psYchotic> konqueror?
[10:47] <ilba7r> i tried using IE wine did not work too
[10:47] <Doomhammer> oh yeah konqueror, and there's a GNOME one
[10:48] <ilba7r> might try SOL
[10:48] <Doomhammer> ilba7r: what is the site:
[10:48] <gnomefreak> w3m links links2 mozilla and more
[10:48] <Doomhammer> ?
[10:48] <ilinux4000> _jason, how do i create the mount point first???
[10:48] <psYchotic> anyway, can anyone perhaps help me with my little "Blank disc" problem?
[10:48] <ilba7r> its a government site in egypt
[10:48] <Doomhammer> ilinux: sudo mkdir <some mount point>
[10:48] <Dr_Willis> the only sites ive seen that require IE are normally ones that scan windows/update windows.
[10:48] <_jason> ilinux4000: mkdir /media/mynewflashmountpoint
[10:48] <ilba7r> mfa.gov.eg
[10:48] <ilinux4000> _jason, k thanks
[10:48] <lord_stuart> when i try to change the permisions on a folder so i can write to it all i get is i am not the owner all the time
[10:48] <lightbright> Doomhammer: is lynx text only based?
[10:48] <psYchotic> there's also www.mapleglobal.com, that one's a bitch, it uses javascript and such to see which browser you're using
[10:48] <Doomhammer> lightbright: yes
[10:49] <Doomhammer> lightbright: well actually i think there is a gui of some sort, but i've never used it
[10:49] <y_o_u> anyone here willing to help a noob install symantic on kubuntu 5.10? or give me a little direction? thanks, forums/wikis have not given me the detail i need to install
[10:49] <matid> Dr_Willis: and the ones that use ActiveX
[10:49] <lightbright> Doomhammer: how do I install opera?
[10:49] <senkila> All: Hello =)
[10:49] <gnomefreak> Doomhammer, not for lynx there isnt
[10:49] <ilba7r> though i find it redicelous but i have to access such idiotic sites :(
[10:49] <lightbright> how do I install opera on Breezy?
[10:49] <Doomhammer> lightbright: apt-get install opera ? or go to www.opera.com and download it
[10:49] <ilinux4000> mount: special device /etc/hde does not exist
[10:49] <mwe> Doomhammer: apt-get instal opera ?!
[10:49] <Doomhammer> mwe: why not ? :S
[10:49] <Dr_Willis> matid,  only sites ive seen latly that use activex are the ones that are doing the scanning (like that housecall) or Updates. like the creative/Hp sites the scan and update drivers
[10:49] <mwe> Doomhammer: I have no such package
[10:49] <psYchotic> Anyone: help me please!
[10:49] <matid> I'm afraid opera in not in repositories
[10:49] <ilinux4000> hde: SanDisk SDCFH-512, CFA DISK drive
[10:49] <gnomefreak> lightbright, add the opera repo to your sources list and sudo apt-get install opera
[10:49] <ilba7r> mwe add the opera repos first from opera download site
[10:50] <lightbright> Doomhammer: Package opera is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[10:50] <lord_stuart> how do i change the permisions on a folder so i can write to it
[10:50] <ompaul> Doomhammer, it is not in a repo - it is not free :-/
[10:50] <psYchotic> haha
[10:50] <fr500> lord_stuart, you or everyone?
[10:50] <ompaul> !opera
[10:50] <ubotu> opera is, like, not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[10:50] <matid> Dr_Willis: many banks use them to digitally sign transactions
[10:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: how do I add the opera to sources?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> !easysource
[10:50] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[10:50] <lord_stuart> any
[10:50] <Doomhammer> ompaul: it's free now, although it wasn't a while ago
[10:50] <Dr_Willis> matid,  i havent seen that :P I must have a good bank lol.
[10:50] <blotted> I've just installed Ubuntu 5.10 (64 bit) onto my laptop. The install was made on a partition with XP, and all works fine. However, when I try to browse the files from Ubuntu of the NTFS drives, I get an error telling me that I don't have the proper permissions. How can I change that?
[10:50] <gnomefreak> lightbright, go there and at very bottom you will see opera
[10:50] <ompaul> free as in freedom?
[10:50] <fr500> lord_stuart, basically you use chmod 777 filename, as the file owner
[10:50] <Doomhammer> why can't I CD into /media/cdrom0 once a CD is mounted ?
[10:50] <mwe> ilba7r: they have an apt mirror? I thought they just had a .deb
[10:50] <fr500> lord_stuart, you should read man chmod though
[10:50] <Doomhammer> permission denied, why is it that only root can access it ?
[10:50] <lightbright> gnomefreak: bottom of http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ?
[10:51] <matid> Dr_Willis: my bank uses it, but fortunately when it detects linux it switched to java ;)
[10:51] <psYchotic> blotted: linux doesn't have proper write capabilities to NTFS
[10:51] <lord_stuart> i can go to terminal an type su then password an ill be root an me an so on but still cant change permisions
[10:51] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes
[10:51] <senkila> Doomhammer: Try typing "sudo" before CDing
[10:51] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[10:51] <gnomefreak> your welcome
[10:51] <blotted> psychotic: So, it's not possible?
[10:51] <Doomhammer> senkila: if i do "cd /media/cdrom0" i get "cd: command not found"
[10:51] <blotted> psychotic: Because I have many openoffice documents I would like to load from the NTFS drive.
[10:51] <rick_> can anyone give us some tips on configuring a shared printer through samba?
[10:51] <ompaul> Doomhammer, type id and tell me what number is there?
[10:51] <senkila> Doomhammer: try browsing there with the Filebrowser?
[10:52] <matid> Doomhammer: uh, sth is really, really wrong
[10:52] <Doomhammer> ompaul: i assume this is what you want to see: 24(cdrom)
[10:52] <mwe> blotted: it can be done but it's not safe. thank MS for the closed specs of ntfs
[10:52] <mcdenyer> hey can someone help me with an amarok problem?
[10:52] <Doomhammer> senkila: konqueror gives "can't enter directory"
[10:52] <ompaul> Doomhammer, amoung other things - what id are you
[10:52] <xcore73> hola a ver.... abro el archivo menu del grub para modificar y no me deja escribir alguien sabe por que
[10:52] <ompaul> Doomhammer, first number
[10:52] <Doomhammer> ompaul: 1000
[10:52] <mjr> mwe, blotted, it's quite safe to _read_ the documents
[10:52] <gnomefreak> !es
[10:52] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[10:52] <lightbright> gnomefreak: that only gives keys, not anything to add to sources.list
[10:52] <mwe> mjr: I know
[10:53] <ilinux4000> _jason, look at this please http://pastebin.com/518077
[10:53] <ompaul> Doomhammer, something is really wrong unless you put in (A) a music CD (B) a blank
[10:53] <mwe> mjr: he wants to write to ntfs I believe
[10:53] <ilba7r> mwe deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ stable non-free
[10:53] <ilba7r> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera/ unstable non-free
[10:53] <ilba7r> deb http://deb.opera.com/opera etch non-free
[10:53] <Doomhammer> ompaul: nope it's Quake 4 CD 2
[10:53] <gnomefreak> lightbright, at the bottom you click one of the boxes than click give list on the page that pops up you will see the opera repo paste it into your list
[10:53] <Doomhammer> ompaul: tried a different mount point, different cd-rom drive
[10:53] <ilba7r> ok thank you all guys and take care
[10:53] <y_o_u> anyone here know another way to install synaptic on kubuntu 5.10? i have tried "apt-get install synaptic" with no success, just need some guidence. thanks!
[10:53] <ompaul> Doomhammer, is the CD okay?
[10:53] <_jason> ilinux4000: you are probably looking for dev not etc ?
[10:53] <senkila> Doomhammer: Good game, have you tried installing it under Cedega?
[10:54] <Doomhammer> senkila: no, i'm attempting to use the linux point release
[10:54] <ilinux4000> _jason, ?
[10:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: I did that but it only gives 2 command to add pgpkeys
[10:54] <senkila> Doomhammer: Ah
[10:54] <Doomhammer> ompaul: i just got back from best-buy with it, so it should be
[10:54] <_jason> ilinux4000: /etc/hde, isn't your device in /dev?
[10:54] <Dreamglider> after the new kernel update, i see the blue Xubuntu splash instead of the usual brown Ubuntu, how to fix it ?
[10:54] <ilinux4000> _jason, good point
[10:54] <ilinux4000> _jason, gotcha
[10:54] <lightbright> gnomefreak: its ok i found it :P
[10:55] <eobanb> hey, what's the easiest/best way to erase a CD-RW
[10:55] <mcdenyer> when i add a folder to amarok collection it doesnt add the m4a files!! but if i manually find the files and hit play with amarok it can play them so amarok can play them it just doesnt add the4m to collection
[10:55] <tatters> large hammer :P
[10:55] <senkila> Doomhammer:good luck with playing Q4, its a great game =D
[10:55] <senkila> Eobanb: have you tried using GnomeBaker?
[10:56] <ilinux4000> _jason, ok it's this now http://pastebin.com/518082
[10:56] <ompaul> Doomhammer, dd if=/dev/hXX of=somewhere
[10:56] <ompaul> ohhh
[10:56] <senkila> oh darn, he left
[10:56] <ilinux4000> _jason, manpage is missing for some reason
[10:56] <lightbright> gnomefreak: hang on, Opera isnt free?  does that mean I need to pay to use it?
[10:56] <gnomefreak> lightbright, no
[10:56] <_jason> ilinux4000: do you know it?  my usb card uses fat16, so 'mount -t vfat /foo /bar' for me
[10:56] <senkila> Doomhammer: Welcome Back
[10:56] <bryanl> i never noticed how much of a difference the smp kernel would make..
[10:56] <Dr_Willis> Opera isent 'gpl free'
[10:57] <gnomefreak> opera cost nothing but opera isnt free as in freedom
[10:57] <mwe> lightbright: I think it's not free software but free as in you don't have to pay for it
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> its free to use however.
[10:57] <ompaul> ilinux4000, mount -t msdos may help at the start
[10:57] <Amaranth> bryanl: on a dual-core or dual cpu system not using the smp kernel makes the other core/cpu sit there and do nothing
[10:57] <Dr_Willis> opera had all those license give aways one week.. then became free for all the next..   :P
[10:57] <ilinux4000> ubuntu
[10:57] <Twan> Ok...anyway I can open a file in /etc/ and be able to modify it? I'm logged in as root but still am getting permission denied...
[10:57] <lightbright> mwe: so I can use Opera freely?
[10:58] <Twan> I'm opening the file with Kate
[10:58] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7496 capture ard
[10:58] <ilinux4000> _jason ext2
[10:58] <gnomefreak> lightbright, yes
[10:58] <Twan> And if I try and launch it from sudo in terminal, it just doesn't boot
[10:58] <mwe> lightbright: I believe so. I find firefox superior though
[10:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: so is opera free to use for us?
[10:58] <gnomefreak> yes lightbright
[10:58] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok thanks
[10:58] <Dr_Willis> I also perfer Firefox to Opera
[10:58] <Doomhammer> gah why does it keep mounting /media/cdrom0 with permissions of drwx------
[10:58] <gnomefreak> me too :)
[10:58] <vultaire> hey, got a sound issue: I'm having trouble getting my SB Live to work in 4.1 surround
[10:58] <lightbright> mwe: I use firefox too, its just 2 websites that I use only works with IE and Opera, and not firefox
[10:59] <gnomefreak> i use firefox and links2 about the same :)
[10:59] <Guile> hi. How I can configure the modem Motorola SM56 on Ubuntu?
[10:59] <Twan> So does anyone know how I can launch a .conf file from terminal?
[10:59] <Guile> its possible?
[10:59] <Doomhammer> twan: nano -w <.conf file>
[10:59] <Twan> nano -w?
[10:59] <Twan> ok
[10:59] <Twan> one sec
[10:59] <mwe> lightbright: yeah. I use IE in wine for those, like my web bank
[10:59] <gnomefreak> lightbright, there is an extention you can add to use it for IE pages
[10:59] <Doomhammer> twan: it will open it in a command-line text editor
[10:59] <ilinux4000> _jason, nice take a look at this http://pastebin.com/518085
[10:59] <lightbright> gnomefreak: an extension for firefox?
[10:59] <bryanl> Amaranth, i know...  this was a fresh ubuntu install... and i forgot to check to see if it installed the smp kernel..
[10:59] <ilinux4000> _jason, talk about taking baby steps
[10:59] <gnomefreak> yes lightbright
[11:00] <lightbright> mwe: you can use IE through wine and it works ok?
[11:00] <eobanb> senkila, i will try that, thanks
[11:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: where can I get the extension?
[11:00] <mwe> lightbright: yeah
[11:00] <ompaul> ilinux4000, mount -t msdos /dev/hde /media/cf
[11:00] <mwe> lightbright: minor issues
[11:00] <ilinux4000> ompaul, tried that as well
[11:00] <senkila> Eobanb: Anytime mate =D
[11:00] <gnomefreak> lightbright, if you look under tools you will see it click it and it will give you 100s of things to add to your ff
[11:00] <lightbright> mwe: apt-get install wine ?
[11:00] <gary_> anyone here has exp. with jedit installation with ubuntu?
[11:00] <ilinux4000> ompaul, same issue
[11:00] <mwe> lightbright: yeah. and google sidenet
[11:00] <lightbright> gnomefreak: ok ty
[11:00] <bryanl> gary_, me!
[11:00] <lightbright> mwe: sidenet?
[11:00] <Twan> OK I edited from terminal, how do I save?
[11:00] <gary_> i have my java runtime and standard java installed.
[11:01] <mwe> lightbright: go to frankscorner.org and follow the directions
[11:01] <bryanl> gary_, whats your question?
[11:01] <Twan> Doomhammer: How do I save now?
[11:01] <Doomhammer> gary: you can't use the GNU Java Interpretor, you have to use the official sun JRE ... get that setup, then just java -jar <jedit jar file>
[11:01] <mwe> lightbright: that's what I did
[11:01] <gary_> bryanl, when i do java -jar ...XXX.jar
[11:01] <Guile> the motorola modem sm56 , its possible on ubuntu?
[11:01] <Doomhammer> twan: CTRL+X, then hit enter a couple times
[11:01] <thechris> anyone know how to get shfs working?
[11:01] <Twan> ok
[11:01] <ompaul> ilinux4000, type >>mount<< and pop that in pastebin
[11:01] <gary_> bryanl, it gives me main error exception.
[11:01] <mwe> lightbright: well actually I ended up using winetools
[11:01] <Doomhammer> gary: you're using the GNU java runtime, you need the official sun one
[11:01] <gary_> bryanl, can i send private msg with error msg?
[11:01] <mwe> lightbright: that makes installing IE in wine really simple
[11:02] <gnomefreak> brb reboot
[11:02] <Doomhammer> why does it keep mounting /media/cdrom0 with permissions of drwx------
[11:02] <ompaul> Guile, do a web search for linmodems
[11:02] <ilinux4000> ompaul, http://pastebin.com/518091
[11:02] <bryanl> gary_, sure
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.UIDefaults.put(java.lang.Object, java.lang.Object) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.plaf.basic.BasicDefaults.BasicDefaults() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.plaf.metal.MetalLookAndFeel.getDefaults() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.UIManager.getDefaults() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.UIManager.getUI(javax.swing.JComponent) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JPanel.updateUI() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <bryanl> :)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JPanel.JPanel(java.awt.LayoutManager, boolean) (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <Twan> Should vsftpd update automatically because I still can't login as root, and when I login as anonymous there are no directories
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JPanel.JPanel() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JRootPane.createGlassPane() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JRootPane.getGlassPane() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <ompaul> gary_, DONT PASTE
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JRootPane.JRootPane() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JFrame.createRootPane() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JFrame.getRootPane() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:02] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JFrame.frameInit() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:03] <gary_>    at javax.swing.JFrame.JFrame() (/usr/lib/libgcj.so.4.0.0)
[11:03] <Doomhammer> gary: it's like i said, you need the official Sun Microsystems JRE, not the GNU Java Interpretor
[11:03] <gary_>    at installer.SwingInstall.SwingInstall() (Unknown Source)
[11:03] <bryanl> he obviously made a mistake..
[11:03] <gary_>    at installer.Install.main(java.lang.String[] ) (Unknown Source)
[11:03] <gary_> sorry. :-P
[11:03] <ompaul> gary_, press crtl + C
[11:03] <Doomhammer> gary: go to http://java.sun.com/
[11:03] <ilinux4000> ompaul, here too http://pastebin.com/518094
[11:03] <Twan> Does anyone know how to use vsftpd (very secure ftp daemon)
[11:03] <Doomhammer> gary: get the java 5.0 JRE
[11:03] <ompaul> gary_, if you want to paste http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:03] <mwe> Doomhammer: mount with option mode=755
[11:03] <mwe> Doomhammer: or mode=644
[11:04] <fr500> does anyone to test the latest bmpx build deb i just made? i don't have another ubuntu box
[11:04] <DeepMind> Hi, when I try to use Rhythmbox or Banshee I get "OIL: ERROR liboiltest.c 325: oil_test_check_impl(): illegal instruction in fbCompositeSolid_nx8888mmx". Is there anything to do or am I out of luck?
[11:04] <pundai> well im about to overwrite my g3nt00 dual booted with xp with ubuntu. i bet i messed it up :)
[11:04] <gary_> bryanl can you accept dcc chat?
[11:04] <_jason> ilinux4000: I don't know, maybe someone else has used a device similar to yours
[11:05] <ilinux4000> _jason, thanks for your help, i guess it may just be a little too much for ubuntu to handle with stuff as complex as flash
[11:05] <fr500> ilinux4000, what device? is it a pockey hdd? thats the only usb drive that didnt work for me
[11:05] <ilinux4000> fr500 it's a Compact Flash card
[11:05] <ilinux4000> my board has a slot for it
[11:05] <gary_> i am still waiting for you to accept DCC chat.
[11:05] <fr500> ilinux4000, oh, well can you pm the dmesg output on connection?
[11:05] <ilinux4000> it's soo freaking easy to use in windows or OS X that it makes this  a joke
[11:05] <gary_> bryanl
[11:05] <steve_laptop> hello all anyone have a clue on this? NVidia problem trying to get glx and settings installed but I keep get this - E: /var/cache/apt/archives/nvidia-settings_1.0-3ubuntu6_i386.deb: trying to overwrite `/usr/bin/nvidia-settings', which is also in package nvidia-glx
[11:06] <ilinux4000> fr500, sure one sec
[11:06] <fr500> ilinux4000, these are free and every flash works for me, so something should be working wrong
[11:06] <grim76> grim
[11:06] <bryanl> i didn't get a dcc chat request
[11:06] <bryanl> :/
[11:06] <vultaire> I need some help, I've been having a bear of a time getting my sound to work quite right...  It works, but only 2 speakers instead of 4.1, and my microphone is also being played back on my speakers rather than simply recording
[11:06] <grim76> grim
[11:06] <ompaul> ilinux4000, /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)  <-- what is that it is mounted in the strangest of places and you will never get to it
[11:06] <timfrost> ilinux4000, did you run mke2fs /dev/hde1?  That creates the filesystem data structures in the partition that fdisk defined
[11:06] <JarG0n> When I put a CD into my CD-ROM, why do I get this message?  "Unable to mount the selected volume: Error: given UDI is not a mountable volume"
[11:06] <BrickMaker> i have downloaded jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin, how do i install it?
[11:06] <Doomhammer> mwe: the mode option didn't help at all :/
[11:07] <Doomhammer> BrickMaker: sh jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:07] <fr500> !java
[11:07] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:07] <gnudreamer> dogsun:  AITech WaveWatcher TV-PCI = can be LR26 (Bt848) or LR50 (BT878)
[11:07] <mwe> Doomhammer: what did you type? It should help if you do it correctly
[11:07] <fr500> BrickMaker, that was for you
[11:07] <Doomhammer> mwe: mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 -o mode=755
[11:07] <BrickMaker> yeah!
[11:07] <gnudreamer> !bttv
[11:07] <ubotu> No idea, gnudreamer
[11:07] <mwe> Doomhammer: but it was already mounted, right? also use sudo
[11:08] <ompaul> ilinux4000,  I am going to suggest to you that you should reboot remove the device and when the machine comes up check for something at that point
[11:08] <mwe> Doomhammer: sudo mount /dev/hdc /media/cdrom0 -o remount,mode=755
[11:08] <Doomhammer> mwe: oh yeah i used sudo, and it wasn't mounted when i ran that command... should it have been ?
[11:08] <ompaul> ilinux4000, come in here before you put that device in the machine
[11:08] <mwe> Doomhammer: no
[11:08] <Doomhammer> mwe: just ran that command, same thing ... no change in permissions
[11:08] <npfet> Does anyone know.. for the bcm43xx drivers (For use on an ibook), if the firmwares are architecture dependant?
[11:09] <mwe> Doomhammer: ls -l /media/cdrom0 doesn't show rwxr-xr-x as perms?
[11:09] <Doomhammer> mwe: no, drwx------
[11:09] <mcdenyer> i have a surround sound capable sound card how do i get it to plau srs on linux?
[11:09] <ilinux4000> anybody?
[11:10] <ilinux4000> i'm stuck here
[11:10] <Doomhammer> mwe: same thing with or without the mode= option
[11:10] <ilinux4000> ompaul, do you know how to fix this or is this trial and error?
[11:10] <fr500> ilinux4000, you were gonna pm me the dmesg output
[11:10] <gary_> i just fixed the problem. thank for helping anyway :)
[11:10] <mwe> Doomhammer: odd. it works here
[11:10] <ilinux4000> fr500 i did
[11:10] <ilinux4000> fr500y ou didn't accept the chat
[11:10] <fr500> pm=private message i didnt notice it
[11:10] <Doomhammer> mwe: it worked fine a minute ago... maybe i should *gasp* reboot ?
[11:11] <mwe> Doomhammer: I don't know why that would help, but maybe
[11:11] <ompaul> ilinux4000, this is trial and error as that mount point should not be there and it needs to be looked at before you go anywhere, and I have yet to have a device not mount if it is mountable
[11:11] <mwe> Doomhammer: I never seen that before
[11:11] <Doomhammer> mwe: well i'm out of ideas... so i guess i'll try it :/
[11:11] <ilinux4000> pm fr500 Probing IDE interface ide2...
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: SanDisk SDCFH-512, CFA DISK drive
[11:11] <ilinux4000> ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 10
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: max request size: 128KiB
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: 1000944 sectors (512 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=993/16/63
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: cache flushes not supported
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ilinux4000> ide-cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
[11:11] <mcdenyer> why wont amarok add m4as to collection?
[11:11] <ilinux4000> cs: pcmcia_socket1: unable to apply power.
[11:11] <ilinux4000> Probing IDE interface ide2...
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: SanDisk SDCFH-512, CFA DISK drive
[11:11] <ilinux4000> ide2 at 0x100-0x107,0x10e on irq 10
[11:11] <bosco> hey i know this is a simple question but why is it when you select an image to be your backgound in Firefox why it never shows the changes is it a bug?
[11:11] <mwe> ilinux4000: don't paste here
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: max request size: 128KiB
[11:11] <Doomhammer> !pastebin
[11:11] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: 1000944 sectors (512 MB) w/1KiB Cache, CHS=993/16/63
[11:11] <ilinux4000> hde: cache flushes not supported
[11:11] <mwe> !ops
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ubotu> methinks ops is Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[11:11] <fr500> ilinux4000, you are gonnea get raped for that
[11:11] <ilinux4000> ide-cs: hde: Vcc = 3.3, Vpp = 0.0
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:11] <fr500> ilinux4000, stop man
[11:11] <ilinux4000>  /dev/ide/host2/bus0/target0/lun0: p1
[11:12] <mwe> thanks
[11:12] <npfet> woah
[11:12] <Amaranth> stupid colloquy
[11:12] <Doomhammer> :P
[11:12] <npfet> #flood
[11:12] <Amaranth> it froze on me
[11:12] <Doomhammer> brb, reboot
[11:12] <fr500> Seveas, Amaranth , was a mistake no intentional
[11:12] <BrickMaker> i have installed the Java
[11:12] <BrickMaker> its necessery to re-start the computer?
[11:12] <fr500> ilinux4000, pm means /msg fr500 text
[11:13] <Bizzeh> dammit
[11:13] <Seveas> fr500, that would /msg you the first line and put the rest in the channel
[11:13] <Seveas> use a pastebin.
[11:13] <Bizzeh> i can eather just not use my internet, and have smp, or use my internet and have a 1 core kernel
[11:13] <fr500> Seveas, i opened a chat window with him though, he didnt read it thats it
[11:13] <npfet> anyone using bcm43xx?
[11:13] <Umaro> hey guys.. I need to know what ubuntu package the system headers are in.. like /usr/include/linux/*
[11:13] <davea> what package do I install to get sys/types.h sys/stat.h, etc?  Going crazy here!
[11:13] <ompaul> fr500, the problem most likely has something to do with  /dev on /.dev type unknown (rw,bind)
[11:14] <Seveas> !tell npfet about anyone
[11:14] <BrickMaker> i have install java, but its still not working my firefox still recommending me to download java
[11:14] <Seveas> davea, build-essential
[11:14] <fr500> does anyone to test the latest bmpx build deb i just made? i don't have another ubuntu box to test
[11:14] <fr500> does anyone want to test i meant, i'm so slow today
[11:14] <sokac> hi! i have problemm with installing new firefox at ununtu  5.10
[11:14] <sokac> :D
[11:14] <Bizzeh> does anyone know why the driver on here http://rt2x00.serialmonkey.com/ doesnt work with smp kernels?
[11:14] <davea> How can a Linux system even exist without sys/stat.h??
[11:14] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, did you run sudo update-alternatives --config java
[11:14] <Umaro> davea: looks like we had the same question.. lol
[11:14] <Seveas> fr500, hmm, I'd like to, can you mail me your debian/ dir? (dennis AT ubuntu.com)
[11:14] <BrickMaker> nope
[11:15] <glacious> how can i mount one of the /media/sda1 drives so all users can read it, not just root.
[11:15] <gamerl33d> hey i am trying to run celdega and alsa and oss fail any ideas?
[11:15] <BrickMaker> i just run this sh jre-1_5_0_06-linux-i586.bin
[11:15] <Seveas> davea, it's only needed for compiling, not for running...
[11:15] <fr500> Seveas, not only the package?
[11:15] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, you need to run that to choose what java ubuntu will use
[11:15] <mcdenyer> whats music players can manage ipods?
[11:15] <fr500> mcdenyer, banshee, rythmbox, amarok
[11:15] <y_o_u> does anyone know if kynaptics is installed in kubuntu?
[11:15] <nuller> so uhh
[11:15] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, armok, gtkpod banshee
[11:15] <fr500> y_o_u, yes it is
[11:15] <Seveas> fr500, a proper package would have a prisitine source tree with the only changes being in the debian/ dir :)
[11:15] <mwe> y_o_u: isn't adept what they have now?
[11:15] <Amaranth> banshee > *
[11:15] <law_> Hello. I uninstalled firefox, and installed mozilla-firefox and now firefox doesn't display properly. I can't access forums. Need help. I'm trying to upgrade my ubuntu version as was followng wiki instructions
[11:15] <BrickMaker> sudo update-alternatives --config java let me try this
[11:15] <Aladdin-> Hi guys
[11:16] <Aladdin-> got a biggie
[11:16] <Seveas> fr500, and I prefer to compile things myself
[11:16] <nuller> if your wireless wont work no matter what you try...  try NOT using the latest kernel...
[11:16] <mcdenyer> fr500 i cant get amarok to add m4as to my collection it can play them it just wont add them to collection
[11:16] <fr500> Seveas, oh then forget it :p
[11:16] <nuller> just thought i'd share that
[11:16] <y_o_u> fr500: where is it? not on my start menu and couldnt find it in a search
[11:16] <sokac> i have problem with firefox:
[11:16] <AMDXP> i foobared my xfce4 anyway i can remove it and start fresh?
[11:16] <sokac> (firefox-bin:8576): Gdk-WARNING **: Error converting from UTF-8 to STRING: Conversion from character set 'UTF-8' to 'ISO-8859-1' is not supported
[11:16] <gamerl33d> how do i find out what sound i am using?
[11:16] <fr500> y_o_u, sorry gnome here
[11:16] <nuller> even though it's probably not even related
[11:16] <nuller> have fun
[11:16] <gnomefreak> law_, ubuntuforums are down have you tried a different site see if Ff opens it
[11:16] <y_o_u> mwe: it seems to be, but i cant apt-get a bunch of stuff
[11:16] <y_o_u> fr500: np, thanks anyway
[11:16] <sokac> anybody?
[11:16] <fr500> y_o_u, if you open a terminal and type sudo kynaptic it should appear
[11:16] <_adam> gnomefreak: forums should be back u
[11:16] <fr500> Seveas, was a pita for me anyway :p
[11:16] <_adam> up
[11:16] <mwe> fr500: no
[11:17] <law_> gnomefreak,  - I tried google. Any site I go the images are distorted, and I see little text
[11:17] <gnomefreak> _adam, someone tried like 20 mins ago they were down
[11:17] <mwe> fr500: don't use sudo with gui apps!
[11:17] <mcdenyer> gnomefreak, i cant get amarok to add m4a files to add to the collection it can play them but when i select a folder with m4as to add to collection it doesnt add m4as it only adds mp3s
[11:17] <AMDXP> how long have the forums been down?
[11:17] <Twan> yes
[11:17] <jtrask> hey everyone
[11:17] <_adam> gnomefreak: i just checked
[11:17] <mwe> fr500: use kdesu or gksudo
[11:17] <JarG0n> In Ubuntu, how can I copy files from my CD-ROM to /usr/local/games/quake4/q4base?
[11:17] <Twan> got ftp working from windows to linux
[11:17] <Twan> yaya!
[11:17] <gnomefreak> _adam, ok ty
[11:17] <Twan> JarG0N use ln -s
[11:17] <jtrask> ive got 100 gigs on one drive and 110 on another, unpartitioned
[11:17] <Seveas> Twan, nice :)
[11:17] <pundai> Twan, \o/?
[11:17] <nipplesrulz> ya
[11:17] <Twan> yea it was hard
[11:17] <y_o_u> fr500: it is telling me command not found
[11:17] <jtrask> id like to put them all into lvm, but dont know how to do that. any tips?
[11:17] <JarG0n> Twan: from terminal window?
[11:17] <nipplesrulz> so basically with no vid card this distro sux
[11:17] <nipplesrulz> :/
[11:17] <Twan> nah I just made linux an ftp server
[11:17] <Dr_Willis> Twan,  heh - would be safer and easier to use winscp :p
[11:17] <Twan> logged in as root from windows
[11:18] <_adam> i wish i could find the libnl library used to build latest network-manager with vpn
[11:18] <Twan> Safety is nothing these computers are toys to me i'm 14
[11:18] <davea> Steveas: I know it's only needed for compiling
[11:18] <fr500> y_o_u, gksudo kynaptic?
[11:18] <gnomefreak> mcdenyer, i dont know anything about armok or m4a files
[11:18] <thechris> Twan: maybe set up samba next
[11:18] <Twan> possibly
[11:18] <Twan> still trying to get gtkpod working
[11:18] <Twan> for my ipod
[11:18] <Seveas> fr500, kynaptic is a bad apt client, better use adept on kde or synaptic in gnome
[11:18] <Aladdin-> Here's the prob:  GDM is started but can't get a fix on display :0 . I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didn't work.  I am getting hopeless and my sanity is flying away.  Please help.
[11:18] <jtrask> is gtkpod the way to go for ipods?
[11:18] <Twan> yamipod doesn't support ipod 5g, but gtkpod is giving me a missing lib error
[11:18] <Bizzeh> or get the rt2500 driver working with a smp kernel
[11:18] <jtrask> i heard of another program as well, wasnt sure which would be preferred
[11:18] <AMDXP> jtrask yes
[11:18] <Twan> well iTunes is, but linux has no itunes
[11:18] <Twan> Which?
[11:18] <y_o_u> fr500: sudo kynaptic or kynaptic by itself will not work, "command not found"
[11:18] <Twan> YamiPod?
[11:19] <fr500> Seveas, he asked for kynaptic :p
[11:19] <Doomhammer> why are CDs being mounted with drwx------ permissions ?!
[11:19] <_adam> theres a python version of gtkpod
[11:19] <Twan> yes I think i'm trying to run that...it's a bitch to get it working
[11:19] <mwe> y_o_u: don't use sudo with gui apps! use kdesu or gksudo or you might get trouble
[11:19] <gnomefreak> jtrask, it depends on the user banshee is more like itunes that gtkpod
[11:19] <Twan> that and bittorrent
[11:19] <Seveas> Doomhammer, because they are also mounted with user option so you can actually access them :)
[11:19] <davea> Steveas: the answer can be found by using the search feature at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:19] <jtrask> i just moved off windows, so ive been running itunes for a while
[11:19] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell y_o_u about gksudo
[11:19] <Twan> now my windows froze (i still have mirc open but there is no desktop or start button)
[11:19] <BrickMaker> let me know again
[11:19] <_adam> banshee is mono based right?
[11:19] <jtrask> so if banshee is like that, thatd be good
[11:19] <y_o_u> mwe: thanks
[11:19] <cyphase> _adam, yes
[11:19] <Twan> Both are buggy
[11:19] <BrickMaker> tell me how to install Java.bin
[11:20] <jtrask> the name amarok rings a bell too, but i dont remember what that is
[11:20] <Twan> I don't know why apple won't just give us the source to iTunes
[11:20] <_adam> coo
[11:20] <Twan> amarok = audio manager?
[11:20] <_jason> ubotu: tell BrickMaker about java
[11:20] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, did you read the install instructions for javba on javas site?
[11:20] <fr500> jtrask, not that advanced, you need to compile on their own too, since the one in repos doesnt support ipod i think
[11:20] <thechris> Twan: most likely drm related
[11:20] <Twan> Maybe I can decompile iTunes.exe
[11:20] <pundai> ok so is there a ubuntu rescue disk somewhere
[11:20] <BrickMaker> nope
[11:20] <jtrask> well, thats something to work on in a couple days
[11:20] <pundai> i need to do the dd crap to make windows boot ubuntu
[11:20] <Twan> Ok I need to restart windows, it's working horribly (this is for my iPod)
[11:20] <Bizzeh> i had ubuntu all nice and sexy today, then i moved to an smp kernel, and then my network driver decided to not work
[11:20] <jtrask> for now i have to figure out how to partition all this space so i have room for the music in the first place ;)
[11:20] <Doomhammer> seveas: well i can't cd into them when mounted...
[11:20] <Doomhammer> seveas: even with the user option
[11:21] <Aladdin-> Here's the prob:  GDM is started but can't get a fix on display :0 . I tried dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg, didn't work.  I am getting hopeless and my sanity is flying away.  Please help.
[11:21] <y_o_u> so if there is no synaptics/kynaptics in kubuntu breezy, how the heck to i get and install packages? i cant seem to get adept to d/l anything it doesnt already have
[11:21] <jtrask> so again, how do i put my unpartitioned disks into lvm?
[11:21] <mwe> y_o_u: what file system is it?
[11:21] <fr500> y_o_u, aptitude?
[11:21] <Seveas> y_o_u, apt-get, aptitude....
[11:22] <thechris> Aladdin-: as a user:  startx  (what errors get listed?)  (press ctrl+alt+bkspace to exit if X actually loads)
[11:22] <Seveas> kubuntu breezy should have a package manager
[11:22] <g1m> hello, is there a way to change the look of the window/-borders of a certain application (amarok) ?
[11:22] <_adam> jtrask: http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/
[11:22] <mwe> Doomhammer: what file system is it?
[11:22] <thechris> Seveas: kubuntu doesn't have apt?
[11:22] <Seveas> thechris, of course it has
[11:22] <Doomhammer> mwe: i assume it's a joliet filesystem
[11:22] <gnomefreak> thechris, kubuntu uses apt
[11:22] <Seveas> kubuntu is ubuntu with a different set of default packages
[11:22] <Seveas> and adept is installed by default
[11:22] <mwe> Doomhammer: it's really odd
[11:22] <fr500> g1m, it's  a kde theme so you gotta change kde window border i guess
[11:23] <Doomhammer> mwe: um yes it is
[11:23] <g1m> fr500: how ?
[11:23] <law_> Please, this is urgent. I removed firefox (from instructions I was reading), and was forced to reinstall. Firefox now doesn't display text/images properly - it's impossible to make out what's going on.
[11:23] <Doomhammer> mwe: hmm let me try to mount another known-good cd :S
[11:23] <fr500> g1m, i'm a gnome guy
[11:23] <mwe> Doomhammer: the mode=xxx thing usually works
[11:23] <Aladdin-> thechris: says many "... already registered with priority 0", and then a routine starts that tries to reconnect every 2 minutes!
[11:23] <g1m> fr500: me too, but i have some kde-applications
[11:23] <_adam> law_: try rm -rf ~/.mozilla
[11:23] <law_> ok _adam
[11:23] <_jason> law_: wait
[11:24] <_jason> law_: if you want to save bookmarks etc, just mv it
[11:24] <Doomhammer> mwe: okay another known good CD is mounted jsut fine wtf
[11:24] <mwe> Doomhammer: huh. so a bad cd caused this
[11:24] <Doomhammer> mwe: what are the chances that these cds are screwed up, considering i just barely took them out of the box ?
[11:24] <ompaul> Doomhammer, your have a bad CD
[11:24] <_adam> law_: mv ~/.mozilla ~/.mozbak
[11:24] <thechris> Aladdin-: as a user:  startx -- :1  (yes, actually type the two dashes.  what errors get listed?)  (press ctrl+alt+bkspace to exit if X actually loads)
[11:24] <artemis3> can anyone help me get rid of annoying sound clicks when moving windows?
[11:25] <mwe> Doomhammer: what cd is it? did you just burn it or what?
[11:25] <ompaul> Doomhammer, dd if=/dev/hXX of=somewhere.iso and see if it can actually be read
[11:25] <law_> _jason,  - I have passwords saved - I haven't made backups :O
[11:25] <Doomhammer> mwe: no, it's quake4, and i just bought it
[11:25] <mwe> Doomhammer: heh
[11:25] <_jason> law_: use that second command _adam gave you
[11:25] <Aladdin-> thechris: same. except then I got 2 routines trying to reconnect every 2 minutes! :(
[11:25] <mwe> Doomhammer: I don't know why it's acting like that
[11:25] <law_> ok
[11:25] <Doomhammer> mwe: maybe i'll try rebooting into *high pitched shreik* windows and play it :O
[11:25] <mwe> Doomhammer: yeah
[11:26] <thechris> Aladdin-: try googling for that error then.
[11:26] <Doomhammer> later all
[11:26] <Prozac> Anybody know a program that could tell me what kinda Motherboard i got? Trying to do a bios upgrade, only got my current bios version but it wants my motherboard type also...
[11:26] <BrickMaker> i'm becoming crazy
[11:26] <BrickMaker> why java ain't working on firefox
[11:26] <QMario> Where can I get the Linux version of Dev-C++?
[11:26] <mwe> Doomhammer: you can always get the files of the cd as root if you can only get it to mount with those weird perms though
[11:26] <_adam> BrickMaker: did you install a jre?
[11:26] <glacious> has anyone here run Steam / HalfLife2 on wine?
[11:26] <Aladdin-> thechris: googling meaning google search on it :(
[11:26] <fr500> BrickMaker, if you follow the howto completely it should worl
[11:26] <BrickMaker> jre
[11:26] <artemis3> i hate these noises... im about to get gentoo :P
[11:26] <kewl1uk> evening all. just installed ubuntu tonight :)
[11:26] <thechris> Aladdin-: yes.
[11:26] <BrickMaker> i follow :((
[11:26] <y_o_u> i am trying to install kwin-baghira on Kubuntu Breezy. when i try apt-get install baghira, it cant find the package (am i supposed to putting a version in here: apt-get install baghira-0.7?). apt-get update, that i can tell, does nothing, and updating Adept seems to do nothing as well (no new packages). help. please. thank you.
[11:26] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  I think that needs cedega
[11:26] <BrickMaker> but dose'nt matter
[11:26] <mwe> glacious: so you made it work, fglrx?
[11:27] <Aladdin-> thechris: k. that's a go!
[11:27] <glacious> mwe: yes, it uses direct rendering now.  i rebooted.
[11:27] <glacious> mwe: =)
[11:27] <Aladdin-> thechris: bb if I get a clue
[11:27] <mwe> glacious: that's all you had to do?
[11:27] <glacious> Dr_Willis: shoot.  Cedega isn't free either...
[11:27] <glacious> mwe: yessir.
[11:27] <BrickMaker> can any body guide me and tell me from beggining
[11:27] <mwe> glacious: heh
[11:27] <_adam> BrickMaker: once you install jre just make symlink from /<path to jre>/plugins/i386/mozilla/libjava* .
[11:27] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  correct.
[11:27] <glacious> mwe: module auto-loaded, everything works nice like.  wine is a pain, but the video should be working just fine =)
[11:27] <_adam> BrickMaker: into /usr/lib/mozilla/plugins
[11:27] <_adam> i assume
[11:28] <_adam> haven't played with it on ubuntu yet
[11:28] <mwe> glacious: ok good
[11:28] <lightbright> glacious: you related to Hulio Eglacious?
[11:28] <topyli> y_o_u: there is no package called baghira. try kwin-baghira
[11:28] <BrickMaker> man i'm newbie don't getting you
[11:28] <QMario> Anyone know?
[11:28] <glacious> lightbright: haha, no =)
[11:28] <_adam> BrickMaker: what howto are yo uusing
[11:28] <timfrost> y_o_u, the package in the repository is called kwin-baghira
[11:28] <fr500> hmmm gdesklets is a resource hog
[11:29] <BrickMaker> _adam, i heav'nt try it yet i'm confused!
[11:29] <_adam> BrickMaker: at what part
[11:29] <Moosedude> could anyone give me a basic breakdown of ubuntu versus suse?
[11:29] <BrickMaker> some ppl say some thing else and you are saying some thing else
[11:29] <Moosedude> i'm not sure which would be better for me
[11:29] <_adam> fr500: screen and watch are your friends ;)
[11:29] <y_o_u> topyli, timfrost: i tried that, same thing. i run "sudo apt-get install kwin-baghira", i get " couldnt find package kwin-baghira"
[11:29] <metal> what games can be run on ubuntu?
[11:29] <Moosedude> the only other linux distro I've used is Mandrake
[11:29] <BrickMaker> #flood let me show you some thing there
[11:30] <gnomefreak> Moosedude, heres a simple answer ubuntu is better :)
[11:30] <lightbright> glacious: :)
[11:30] <fr500> _adam, screen? watch?
[11:30] <fr500> _adam, the console commands? i want eye candy :p
[11:30] <_adam> fr500: yea use screen and the watch command if you want to monitor system specs
[11:30] <_adam> fr500: hehe
[11:30] <Moosedude> gnomefreak, well, what are the advantages of drawbacks of each?
[11:30] <Moosedude> and why should I choose ubuntu over suse?
[11:30] <Moosedude> I'm also considering Mandriva, but was told it has a lot of bloatware
[11:30] <Moosedude> which I don't want
[11:30] <timfrost> y_o_U, do you have universe repository enabled?
[11:30] <_adam> fr500: could always have a cool bg and make the terminal transparent :)
[11:30] <topyli> y_o_u: well, it's in universe. do you have it enabled?
[11:31] <fr500> _adam, gee....
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Moosedude, you asked in a biased room we here use ubuntu some of us have used suse in past and stoppped for different reasons
[11:31] <davea> Seveas: the answer can be found by using the search
[11:31] <davea>               feature at http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:31] <y_o_u> timfrost, topyli: i have no idea
[11:31] <law_> _adam, _jason , I've used that command, made backups - now how do I resolve my current problem ie. text/images not displaying propery?
[11:31] <y_o_u> let me try to figure out what that is
[11:31] <Moosedude> well, can you tell me some of the general benefits of ubuntu?
[11:31] <timfrost> !repos
[11:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:31] <gnomefreak> Moosedude, if you would like to continue this please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[11:31] <_adam> law_: interesting could be a locale isse
[11:31] <fr500> Moosedude, well, like every linux it's a pita but it's fun :p
[11:31] <borisattva> i followed the ubuntu guide and made fstab to auto mount an smb folder on reboot, but now it asks me for a root password on each restart before it can fully come up, is there any way for me to embedd it so it does not?
[11:32] <ompaul> !ubuntuguide
[11:32] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[11:32] <fab_> what is the command for checking the free space of the hdd?
[11:32] <fr500> borisattva, you didn't follow every step
[11:32] <kewl1uk> Not so biased. I've had SuSE since 8.2 and also had Mandriva 2005LE, and Mandriva Discovery/LX. But now I have Ubuntu :)
[11:32] <y_o_u> timfrost, topyli: thanks for a little guidence, i appreciate it
[11:32] <mwe> fab_: df -h
[11:32] <ompaul> fab_, df -h will help
[11:32] <fab_> thanks mwe & ompaul
[11:33] <borisattva> fr: i'm not talking about smbcredentials. there is no password to access it.
[11:33] <JarG0n> Why can I not copy files via Nautilus from my desktop to \usr\local\games\quake4\q4base ?
[11:33] <_adam> borisattva: you could set your samba server to have security=share
[11:33] <topyli> !tell y_o_u about repos
[11:33] <mwe> JarG0n: because normal users can't just copy paste to system dirs
[11:33] <QMario> Where can I find Dev-C++ for Linux? All I am getting are just Windows executables.
[11:33] <gamerl33d> JarG0n, you need to be sudo
[11:33] <gamerl33d> run nautilus as sudo
[11:33] <mwe> JarG0n: you need gksudo nautilus to do that
[11:33] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  you are trying to copy somthing as a 'user' to a 'non user' area.
[11:34] <JarG0n> how can I do that?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> use the shell and sudo.. is the safer way
[11:34] <JarG0n> run as?
[11:34] <mwe> QMario: is that dc++ ? the file share thing?
[11:34] <gnomefreak> QMario, i dont think dev-c++ comes for any platform except windows try anjuta
[11:34] <Madpilot> JarG0n: open a terminal, type "gksudo nautilus"
[11:34] <glacious> is there a way to install cedega with Synaptic?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> sudo cp whatever   /path/to/whever
[11:34] <borisattva> i'm not running a samba server, only smbclient.. i need to install server to access NAS on the network?
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  nope.
[11:34] <law_> _adam, yes, interesting is the word... i'm kinda peeved right now if I can't use firefox. My intention was to upgrade my ubuntu version from 5.04 to 5.10. I stupidly didn't ssave the webpage offering instructions before messing with firefox. Any quick commands to upgrade?
[11:34] <JarG0n> what is the gk about?
[11:34] <JarG0n> thx
[11:34] <QMario> Mwe, no.
[11:34] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  no need really - its a simple  dkpg -i whatever.
[11:34] <lightbright> us Opera or Firefox the most secure Browser?
[11:34] <rahul> hey can someone help me with screen resolution setting
[11:35] <mwe> QMario: oh. it's the compiler?
[11:35] <_adam> law_: sorry dude just started messing with ubuntu not sure of upgrade process
[11:35] <_adam> law_: maybe check wiki page
[11:35] <BrickMaker> any one experience with sun jre?
[11:35] <law_> I can't check any page
[11:35] <QMario> Mwe, no.
[11:35] <law_> I have no browser
[11:35] <fr500> Dr_Willis, the user space and non user space thingy should be presented on first boot among some other general explanations
[11:35] <_adam> law_: you cant use like ephiphany?
[11:35] <gnomefreak> dev-c++ is a development app for windows
[11:35] <_adam> epiphany*
[11:35] <QMario> Mwe, it is an IDE for C++.
[11:35] <fr500> Dr_Willis, would save a lot of time
[11:35] <_adam> the gnoem browser
[11:35] <mwe> QMario: oh.
[11:35] <gnomefreak> QMario, look at anjuta
[11:35] <glacious> Dr_Willis: says cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[11:36] <rahul> please someone tell me how to go to 1280x960@72 .... its not there in the options
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  use the right path to the  cedega package. :P you did download it?
[11:36] <law_> epiphany? - lets see. And btw, I couldn't find opera in synaptic
[11:36] <rahul> :(
[11:36] <QMario> Gnomefreak, okay. Thank you #Ubuntu!!! :)
[11:36] <gnomefreak> dev-c++ sucks if you ask me but the only thing really offered in windows that is multi lang.
[11:36] <gnomefreak> yw
[11:36] <glacious> Dr_Willis: yes, just the timedemo tho
[11:36] <gnomefreak> law_ enable the opera repo
[11:36] <Dr_Willis> glacious,  never used that.. cant help y there.. i  though thta was a .bin that you ran
[11:36] <JarG0n> Madpilot: when I type 'gksudo nautilus' it returns 'gtk-warning: cannot open display!'
[11:36] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell law_ about easysource
[11:36] <Madpilot> law_: it's not, but it's easy to install
[11:37] <Madpilot> !tell law_ about opera
[11:37] <mwe> !tell rahul about fixres
[11:37] <rahul> i am not getting the option
[11:37] <mwe> rahul: read /msg from ubotu
[11:37] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  learn to do it with the shell and 'sudo cp    whatever  whever'
[11:38] <rahul> how to do that :-?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> running  nautilus   as root is a 'bad' idea -
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> 'sudo cp    whatever  whever'
[11:38] <Zen> What do I need to install to get a persistant clipboard?
[11:38] <Dr_Willis> http://linuxcommand.org/learning_the_shell.php
[11:38] <_jason> Zen: are you running breezy?
[11:38] <Zen> yes
[11:38] <JarG0n> Dr_Willis: thx
[11:38] <law_> gnomefreak, I would have googled it and appropiate commands, but without a working browser i'm obviously stuck. I can't visit a web page, precisely reason why i'm enquiring about alternatives to firefox like opera
[11:38] <mwe> Dr_Willis: why is it a bad idea to run nautilus as root to copy some files?
[11:39] <_jason> Zen: should have one ;o  I've noticed it to be a bit buggy myself as well though
[11:39] <tiomo> my laptop fan is constantly runnning, anyone can help me?
[11:39] <rahul> mwe are u there
[11:39] <gnomefreak> law_, you still have w3m that can be used
[11:39] <borisattva> _adam: why does accessing another computer as a client require me to install samba if i already have smbclient installed? i'm trying to keep this as of a minimal install box as possible.
[11:39] <Zen> _jason: Yeah, it's about as persistant as a normal one that isn't.
[11:39] <mwe> rahul: yes
[11:39] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  same reason its a bad idea to run X as root.
[11:39] <gnomefreak> !opera
[11:39] <ubotu> well, opera is not in the Ubuntu repositories, but you can always download the latest Opera .deb package from http://www.opera.com/download/ and then see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/OperaBrowser
[11:39] <mwe> Dr_Willis: no
[11:39] <Zen> _jason: It clears when apps close
[11:39] <Zen> _jason: and other apps won't write to it (just blank)
[11:39] <mwe> Dr_Willis: running X as root would run the whole system as root
[11:40] <gnomefreak> nm thats not what i wanted to see
[11:40] <_adam> borisattva: thought you were runnin g asamba server
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  plus its worth while to learn the shell.
[11:40] <mwe> Dr_Willis: just running a gui app as root now and then is not the smae
[11:40] <gnomefreak> i cant help im in windows right now :(
[11:40] <mwe> Dr_Willis: it sure is
[11:40] <cyphase> Look at that list of WiFi networks - http://rlove.org/log/2006011201
[11:40] <rahul> after modifying the xorg.conf i got the 1280x960 option in setting menu but still no 72hz option
[11:40] <_jason> Zen: mine seems to hold stuff when apps close (I've only tested gedit)
[11:40] <gnomefreak> can someone give law_ the opera repo?
[11:40] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  till he gets confused and accidently mesed up the system becuase he had the wrong nautilus window clicked.
[11:40] <borisattva> _adam: oh. no i'm not. i'm just trying to access a folder which is on a network attached drive.
[11:40] <Zen> rahul: You need to set your video timings too
[11:40] <rahul> yeah i have set that
[11:40] <rahul> vsunc and hsync
[11:41] <mwe> Dr_Willis: that'd be stupid but I guess it could happen
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  lets just say - ive seen it happen :P
[11:41] <Dr_Willis> mwe,  ive seen several file managers that dont even let themselfs be ran as root.
[11:41] <_jason> Zen: but if you search the repos for clipboard you get some hits.  I haven't tried any myself
[11:41] <mwe> Dr_Willis: It doesn't surprise me
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[11:41] <Dr_Willis> wow
[11:42] <Zen> don't see that every day
[11:42] <QMario> What's this guy trying to do?
[11:42] <Chewster> hello everyone
[11:42] <MickMcMack> Can't even click the link.
[11:42] <MickMcMack> :-\
[11:42] <borisattva> fr500: the only step i'm missing is installing samb(server) which i did not think was necessary as i'm only clienting into a network attached drive. but you believe thats what i'm missing for the auto root password on bootup? i'm trying to keep this install at a minimum.
[11:42] <mumbles> that was fun
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> impress his mom.
[11:42] <law_> gnomefreak, - could you give me details of default directory for w3m? If that works then opera is unnecessary
[11:42] <tck> tell u something QMario
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[11:42] <mumbles> thats 2 klines in one day
[11:42] <QMario> MickMcMack, ha ha ha!!! :)
[11:42] <mumbles> for spammer
[11:42] <borisattva> wow.. that was a blast from irc past, didnt think people still did this
[11:42] <QMario> What's a K-line?
[11:42] <QMario> He's weak though.
[11:42] <MickMcMack> A server-specific G-Line.
[11:42] <Dr_Willis> borisattva,  heh..
[11:43] <Bizzeh> borisattva: more so than the past
[11:43] <Toba> a k-line is a server ban
[11:43] <borisattva> qmario: quasi permanent ban on the ip of the user
[11:43] <QMario> Probably will get stronger in about a few minutes.
[11:43] <Bizzeh> its just not as, obvious anymore
[11:43] <MickMcMack> I'm surprised he wasn't straight G-Lined... :s
[11:43] <QMario> Why do people like to spam #Ubuntu?
[11:43] <Toba> because they're assholes
[11:43] <Toba> this is the internet, don't be surprised at anything
[11:43] <mumbles> and #wordpress soneone did somethign simlere in there
[11:43] <tck> because people try and click the link !!!
[11:43] <MickMcMack> Because there's 700 people here.
[11:43] <Zen> one of the most populated channels on the network is why
[11:43] <cyphase> yea
[11:43] <luisito> helloo
[11:43] <law_> 653 people QMario
[11:44] <Zen> no other reason
[11:44] <Toba> 654 :P
[11:44] <Bizzeh> because as soon as something becomes popular
[11:44] <gnomefreak> law_, open terminal and type w3m www.whatever.com
[11:44] <Bizzeh> its also popular to hate it
[11:44] <gnomefreak> whatever being a site
[11:44] <law_> thanks gnomefreak
[11:44] <borisattva> i woulnt think its anti ubuntu specifically, probably just trying to stir up some emotion out of boredom
[11:44] <cafuego> 24 people and 630 bots
[11:44] <luisito> I have ubuntu in a laptop but I have to install winXP in the same drive. how?
[11:44] <mumbles> hehe yeh
[11:44] <gnomefreak> law_, your welcome
[11:44] <Toba> cafuego: I doubt that :P
[11:44] <gnomefreak> law_, before you yell its text only :(
[11:44] <cafuego> Yeah well, you would...
[11:44] <cyphase> why? i am a bot
[11:44] <tck> since ubuntu is so friendly, maybe we should have a ubuntu-hate chan just to let them know were thinking of them ;)
[11:44] <Phalanx> !ubuntu tell Phalanx about source
[11:44] <ubotu> Phalanx: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:44] <Phalanx> hmm
[11:45] <Phalanx> anyone got a nice source.list?
[11:45] <BrickMaker> how can i fully remove sun jre from my system?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> !sources
[11:45] <Xappe> ubotu tell Xappe about dvd
[11:45] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[11:45] <QMario> Cyphase, really?
[11:45] <Phalanx> cheers gnomefreak
[11:45] <cyphase> QMario, yes
[11:45] <QMario> You didn't respond instantly though.
[11:45] <cyphase> QMario, i am made to be human
[11:45] <luisito> cafuego, need help here, please
[11:45] <law_> gnomefreak,  oh boy......lol. My main intention was to just upgrade ubuntu to 5.10. Can the bot give instructions?
[11:45] <gnomefreak> cyphase, tell qmaro about anjuta lol sorry had to :)
[11:45] <Bizzeh> does anyone have a linux rt2500 driver that works with smp kernels?
[11:46] <gnudreamer> will apt-get, synaptic, or the add program function retrieve bttv?
[11:46] <cyphase> who is qmaro?
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell law_ about upgrade
[11:46] <Bizzeh> !ubuntu tell Bizzeh rt2500
[11:46] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Bizzeh
[11:46] <QMario> Gnomefreak, heh heh heh.
[11:46] <BrickMaker> how can i fully remove sun jre from my system....
[11:46] <gnomefreak> ;)
[11:46] <cafuego> Bizzeh: Dapper comes with one built-it.
[11:46] <MickMcMack> BrickMaker, whyever would you want to do that? :S
[11:46] <Bizzeh> cafuego: 5.10 has the rt2500 driver, but it wont work with smp
[11:47] <gnudreamer> will apt-get, synaptic, or the add program function retrieve bttv??
[11:47] <cafuego> I think that's fairly typicla of realtek hardware <heh>
[11:47] <BrickMaker> MickMcMack, because its not working on my firefox.. somebody told me about blackdown
[11:47] <law_> gnomefreak, I was hoping the bot would offer instructions as they would appear on website, instead of a link. lol. Nevermind. I'm forced to reboot to windows to sort it out. bbl
[11:47] <cyphase> the human cyphase is coming on
[11:47] <Bizzeh> cafuego: windows one works with smp
[11:47] <MickMcMack> BrickMaker, AMD64, by any chance?
[11:47] <JarG0n> what does this mean? (nautilus:10796): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[11:47] <JarG0n> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[11:47] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer, in terminal type apt-cache search bttv
[11:47] <BrickMaker> not on AMD64
[11:47] <cyphase> hey :)
[11:47] <gnudreamer> ty gnome
[11:47] <QMario> BrickMaker, you don't like Java?
[11:47] <gnomefreak> yw gnudreamer
[11:47] <JarG0n> I did gksudo nautilus
[11:48] <witless> is there a reference for using bittorrent on ubuntu for someone who hasn't used bittorrent before?
[11:48] <BrickMaker> QMario, i wan't jre for playing yahoo pools.. and that support Java applet
[11:48] <gnomefreak> python is a better alternative to java but so many apps need java :(
[11:48] <gnudreamer> curious, that didn't find bttv
[11:49] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer, than more than likely no you cant grab it from apt-get
[11:49] <Madpilot> witless: if you're just downloading an existing torrent, just click on the .torrent file somewhere, Firefox should had the file over to GnomeTorrent automatically
[11:49] <gnomefreak> !info bttv
[11:49] <BrickMaker> so let me know how to remove completly java from system
[11:49] <QMario> Gnomefreak, what about ASM.
[11:49] <QMario> I heard some guy made an OS using only ASM.
[11:49] <gnudreamer> !info bttv
[11:49] <QMario> !Java
[11:49] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:49] <cyphase> QMario, Menuet
[11:49] <QMario> Cyphase, yes.
[11:49] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer, the bot doesnt know it
[11:49] <ubuntu_6> are the ubuntu forums down?
[11:49] <BrickMaker> !javadebs
[11:50] <gnomefreak> QMario, i dont know never used it
[11:50] <JarG0n> Is it necessary to install a software based firewall for Ubuntu?
[11:50] <gnudreamer> gnome ok..should i search capture cards on the ubuntu site
[11:50] <witless> Madpilot: do i have to start a "tracker" or anything?
[11:50] <mwe> gnomefreak: python applets? can it do windows, vector graphics and stuff?
[11:50] <Jhair> JarG0n: no
[11:50] <Madpilot> witless: the little .torrent file is the "tracker", I think
[11:50] <gnomefreak> gnudreamer, look at packages.ubuntu.com see if the apps you want are there
[11:50] <JarG0n> jhair: why not?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> mwe theres python apps?
[11:51] <gnomefreak> applets?
[11:51] <mwe> gnomefreak: I don't know. you said python was a better alternative than java
[11:51] <Jhair> JarG0n: because personal firewalls don't improve security.
[11:51] <bosco> i am running ubuntu right now what is the easiest way to install e17
[11:51] <JarG0n> ok
[11:52] <gnomefreak> mwe anything is better than java :)
[11:52] <witless> Madpilot: thanks.  can it take some time to start a download?  like, several minutes before receiving anything?
[11:52] <Aladdin-> HI.     What is the command to stop a PID (X in this case)
[11:52] <mwe> gnomefreak: heh
[11:52] <Madpilot> witless: yes
[11:52] <witless> thanks
[11:52] <bluesign> somebody tell me can I use 256mb agp video card on a system that have 128mb ram ?
[11:52] <cafuego> bluesign: Of course.
[11:52] <mwe> bluesign: odd specs though
[11:53] <gnomefreak> mwe i signed up for java class already so im gonna go and learn about the bloated slow pos :)
[11:53] <bluesign> cafuego: I am getting an error like : Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device
[11:53] <AMDXP> wow
[11:53] <cafuego> Yes, you won't be using much of the card's power when it comes to gaming.
[11:53] <Phalanx> guys just a quicke, what's the name of that nice KDE terminal emulator? Yaku something..???
[11:53] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think it's a great language. too bad it's slow and not free
[11:53] <bluesign> actually I need it just for tvout
[11:53] <Aladdin-> thechris: do you know the command to stop a PID (would "kill" "pid" do it?) and is there an easy way to know what PID X is?
[11:53] <u_int32_t> hey is there a way to get the ubuntu install disk to boot off of my hard drive
[11:54] <Phalanx> ah found it
[11:54] <Phalanx> YaKuake
[11:54] <AMDXP> how can reinstall xfce4
[11:54] <_jason> Aladdin-: man pgrep, man killall
[11:55] <bluesign> so any idea about "PCI: Cannot allocate resource region 1 of device " error ?
[11:55] <AMDXP> my display is fubared
[11:55] <gnomefreak> mwe i do have to admit its shorter than C  (programming) but it is pretty powerfull just wish it was lighter
[11:55] <gnomefreak> AMD_XP, did you install xfce or xubuntu-desktop?
[11:55] <mwe> gnomefreak: yeah
[11:55] <AMDXP> xfce4
[11:55] <AMDXP> not the desktop
[11:55] <gnomefreak> AMD_XP, sudo apt-get remove --purge xfce4
[11:56] <gnomefreak> AMD_XP,after that re-install it
[11:56] <rahul> mwe: i have done wat is said in that guide but it doesn't help
[11:56] <BrickMaker> i'm totally disappointed, still having problem and not getting positive answer
[11:56] <mwe> rahul: what was your problem again?
[11:56] <aodzen> help please - X won't start
[11:56] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, if you didnt install it how do you plan on uninstalling it?
[11:56] <rahul> mwe:i can see the refresh rat 72Hz when i change the resolution to 1280x960
[11:56] <gnomefreak> aodzen, startx
[11:57] <rahul> mwe: sorry i can't see :)
[11:57] <aodzen> it tries, but crashes
[11:57] <gnomefreak> aodzen, what version of ubuntu?
[11:57] <BrickMaker> gnomefreak, somebody told me that you can install it by typing sh jrefilename.bin
[11:57] <aodzen> latest
[11:57] <BrickMaker> some process in the terminal and after that i seen theres msg DONE!
[11:57] <gnomefreak> BrickMaker, i really think you need to read the instructions of the java site
[11:58] <gnomefreak> aodzen, 5.10 or 6.04
[11:58] <mwe> rahul: what driver and card? and are your VertRefresh and HorizSync values correct as specified in your monitor manual?
[11:58] <aodzen> 5.10
[11:58] <gnomefreak> aodzen, from prompt run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and make sure everything is correct
[11:59] <ChrisTucker> whats another irc client other than xchat
[11:59] <ChrisTucker> ?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> irssi
[11:59] <Bizzeh> irssi
[11:59] <AMDXP> bitchx
[11:59] <rahul> mwe:i am using the driver from the synepatic package manager and card is 7800GTX ..... timings is hsync 30-71 and vsync 50-130
[11:59] <ChrisTucker> No.. for GUI
[11:59] <Phalanx> bitchx... lol that one is a bitch to use .D
[11:59] <gnomefreak> bitchx bitchx-gtk gnome-xchat
[11:59] <_jason> gaim
[11:59] <gnomefreak> bitchx is easy
[11:59] <BrickMaker> i don't wanted it anymore i'm better to play game on windows but i wanted to remove it completely i don't know where it has installed java files
[11:59] <aodzen> gnomefreak:can I start irssi from commandline?
[11:59] <gnomefreak> aodzen, yes
[12:00] <Phalanx> xchat is cool, but it sucks if you're using a bnc
[12:00] <Bizzeh> rahul: 7800GTX 512?
[12:00] <mwe> rahul: those timings are correct? and that is an nvidia card?