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coldfrom where ?12:03
orion_fr_24cold: why create your own ?.12:03
orion_fr_24cold: from there server lemme give you the link12:03
orion_fr_24cold: AMD or pentium ??12:03
orion_fr_24http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/12:04
orion_fr_24go here12:04
orion_fr_24and get a live CD version12:04
orion_fr_24then burn th iso file12:04
orion_fr_24and it s done12:04
chxwww.ubuntuforums.org -- others have a problem, too?12:04
coldorion_fr_24 pentium12:04
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orion_fr_24cold: then click here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso12:05
coldorion_fr_24 i just want some files so I can boot my ubuntu partition from vmware12:05
coldorion_fr_24 I have ubuntu not kubuntu will it still work ?12:06
orion_fr_24cold: i m sorry but I dont understand you12:06
orion_fr_24cold: what daya mean is it installed on your computer ?12:06
orion_fr_24cold: why are you talking about CD so ??12:07
rancecan I ask what you guys use to send invoices to customers, im looking for something, but gnucash is way overkill for what I want (it requires 40 packages on a stock kubuntu box) all I really want is to print nice looking customer invoices and track payment of them12:07
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orion_fr_24chx: forums not working either for me12:07
vgedead as allways12:08
orion_fr_24vge: yep12:08
coldorion_fr_24, I want to boot my ubuntu partition from with windows xp using vmware12:08
orion_fr_24cold: I dont know how to do that12:08
orion_fr_24cold: sorry12:08
coldusing a bootable cd12:08
coldso as long as the cd boots my ubuntu partition it would work12:09
orion_fr_24cold: I understand what you wanna do but still can t get why you need a cd12:09
coldcause I already have a os loaded12:10
coldwindows12:10
orion_fr_24cold: this iso file I gave to you is like knoppix12:10
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coldorion_fr_24 I know what u mean12:10
orion_fr_24cold: it s a live CD12:10
orion_fr_24cold: i dont think it could help you12:10
chxOOOOOOOOOOOH12:10
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chxwhere can I get a fresh nvidia-glx ?12:10
calliewhew!12:10
orion_fr_24cold: sorry but I dont know nothing about vmware12:10
orion_fr_24chx: same question for me12:11
calliejust got a palm pilot III for a fiver!12:11
chxI mean, more fresh than the one I get w/ apt12:11
coldorion_fr_24, for simplicity, I just want a cd that can boot my ubuntu os12:11
coldcool ?12:11
vgecold: your trying to use linux just from windows or do you have to be able to boot to linux also when booting comp?12:11
chxbecause this http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=56801 thread touts that the 1.0-8xxx drivers FINALLY fix my RenderAccel problem12:11
orion_fr_24cold: i got your point dude but i m sorry I cant help you12:11
coldvge trying to use linux from windows12:11
coldusing vmware12:11
vgeonly?12:11
coldyes12:12
coldI was trying to use the install disk but I don't think it allows u to boot ur partition from it12:12
orion_fr_24cold: why dont u use virtual pc instead it s seems to be easyer12:12
coldhmm12:12
vgethen why not just do a linux partition with vmware, put cd into drive and boot12:12
vgelike any other virtual drive12:13
coldI already have ubuntu installed12:13
orion_fr_24vge: that s what I thought12:13
vgeic12:13
coldvge but I don't have a cd that can boot my partition12:13
orion_fr_24cold: hooo and you want to keep this one12:13
coldyes12:13
orion_fr_24cold: hoo ok12:13
orion_fr_24cold: well you should check on vmware forums12:13
vgeso you need way to remove the linux parttion, copy the information from the partition to vmware linux image and boot only from windows?12:14
orion_fr_24cold: I think this would be more appropriate12:14
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orion_fr_24cold: or you could try using ONLY linux12:14
orion_fr_24lol12:14
orion_fr_24lol12:14
orion_fr_24lol12:14
orion_fr_24cold: or at least dual boot instead of an emulator12:15
vgeorion_fr_24: have you tryed vmware?12:15
orion_fr_24vge: honnestly no12:15
vgethen i would not mock it12:15
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orion_fr_24vge: but u cant tell me it s really intelligent to load up 2 OS12:15
orion_fr_24vge: it will be anyway slower12:16
coldhmm12:16
coldbasically12:16
coldI want to12:16
coldstart windows12:16
vgewell try to use 8 distros in the same machine12:16
coldload up vmware12:16
coldput my disk that can start my ubuntu os in12:16
coldand run ubuntu from withn in window12:16
orion_fr_24vge: and so ? where is the interest of using 8 distro ??12:16
coldwindows*12:16
vgeorion_fr_24: for testing example12:17
orion_fr_24cold: we understood cold12:17
orion_fr_24vge: I feel ok without windows12:17
orion_fr_24vge: no need of such a shit12:17
orion_fr_24vge: I have to machine12:17
coldorion_fr_24 I need it cause I do programming from both platforms12:17
coldand constantly switching and uploading files is a hassle12:17
orion_fr_24vge: one on linux and the other on MAC OS X12:18
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vgecold: is there something you wanna keep in ubuntu12:18
orion_fr_24cold: i m with you man I understand12:18
coldI want to keep ubuntu it selkf12:18
coldself*12:18
orion_fr_24cold: but as I told you I cant do nothing12:18
coldI want to run ubuntu and windows at the same time12:18
coldyes u can12:18
orion_fr_24cold: ok12:18
coldtell me what files to copy to make a boot disk12:18
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orion_fr_24cold: well I m proud that you trust in me like tthat12:18
vgecold: basically you dont need to boot your vmware, you just start em12:19
orion_fr_24cold: but honnestly the only thing I can do is take a look on google12:19
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coldwell since I am new to vmware12:20
coldits the easyiest way for me12:20
SkrotFFSWhere does kubuntu store firmware for hotplug (such as the firmware for ipw2200 cards)?12:20
coldso u guys can't tell me how to make a ubuntu bootdisk ?12:20
mac__how can I turn off the taskbar tooltips?  The thing that fades in like swiss cheese... annoying...12:20
coldits that simple12:20
vgecold: make virtual linuxpartition with vmware, install ubuntu with orginal cd into that virtual linuxpartition and you never need a bootdisk to your virtual partition12:21
orion_fr_24vge: he wants to keep is pre installed distrop12:21
vgethat would have clarifued alot12:22
orion_fr_24vge: so he cant do that otherwise he ll loose all his datas12:22
coldvge I have little hd spaceand lots of stuff on my ubuntu partition I want to retain12:23
coldthe easyiest way out is a bootdisk12:23
coldI know u can make one but I only have 2 writeable disks and I don't want to waste them to tryal and error12:23
orion_fr_24cold: have you tried that ? http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/ubuntu.html12:24
orion_fr_24vge: btw what was the html editor you advised me ?12:24
vgequanta12:25
orion_fr_24vge: OK THX12:25
vgeif you need a nonwysiwyg editor12:25
orion_fr_24vge: id like wysiwig12:26
vgethose are just nogood12:26
vgemaby the other is then for ya12:26
orion_fr_24vge: I know just the basic in HTML12:27
orion_fr_24vge: so I cant really use a non wysiwyg12:27
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SkrotFFSAnyone got experience with dapper+ipw2200? :)12:28
dodgerdoes anyone know if the livecds have a 'persistent home'?12:28
orion_fr_24dodger: no they dont12:29
orion_fr_24dodger: you have to write on your hard drive12:29
orion_fr_24dodger: but the home folder wonlt be on HD12:30
dodgerthanks orion_fr_2412:30
orion_fr_24dodger: you welcome12:31
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geoffWAi have a quick question that hopefully someone can answer12:42
geoffWAhow do i mount an external hard drive in kubuntu12:42
orion_fr_24geoffWA: what is the filesystem ? FAT 32 ?12:43
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coldcan the ubuntu installation disk boot a ubuntu installation ?12:43
orion_fr_24cold no it will boot the CD partition only12:44
orion_fr_24cold: have you tried the link i sent to u ?12:44
coldyes12:44
coldit all requires a cd to boot the os12:44
geoffWAorion_fr_24: are you pretty proficient in kubuntu?12:44
orion_fr_24geoffWA: what daya mean ??12:45
geoffWAwell i just need to know how to mount an external hard drive12:45
orion_fr_24geoffWA: sorry for my english i m french12:45
geoffWAits all good12:45
orion_fr_24geoffWA: yes I understood that12:45
orion_fr_24geoffWA: but I need to know the filesystem on it12:46
geoffWAntfs12:46
orion_fr_24geoffWA: is it NTFS FQT 3212:46
geoffWANTFS12:46
orion_fr_24geoffWA: well NTFS is difficult to mount12:46
geoffWAdamn really?12:46
orion_fr_24geoffWA: yep12:46
orion_fr_24geoffWA: gimme a sec12:46
geoffWAk12:47
orion_fr_24geoffWA: not too difficult to mount for reqd only12:47
orion_fr_24geoffWA: but i m not sure u can do read and write12:48
geoffWAthats fine i dont need to write to it12:48
orion_fr_24geoffWA: I m checking12:48
coldorion_fr_24, do you know how to make a bootdisk ?12:48
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orion_fr_24cold: no i dont I allready told you12:48
colddoes anyone in here know how to ?????12:49
coldhmm then I guess I am going to have to my self12:49
geoffWAwhat type of bootdisk?12:49
coldubuntu bootdisk12:49
geoffWAa rescue disk or something?12:50
coldto boot a ubuntu partition12:50
geoffWAoh12:50
geoffWAhold on12:50
coldgeoffwa just a regular bootdisk12:50
coldk12:50
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orion_fr_24geoffWA: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs12:50
orion_fr_24geoffWA: u should check that12:51
geoffWAk thanks orion_fr_2412:51
orion_fr_24u welcome12:51
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orion_fr_24geoffWA: just make sure u know what is the device access for the HD12:52
geoffWAcold: you need to access stuff on a ubuntu partition right?12:52
geoffWAorion_fr_24: ok thanks dude12:52
orion_fr_24geoffWA: I dont thhink it will be /dev/hda1 for you12:52
geoffWAnot its usb12:53
orion_fr_24geoffWA: ok12:53
orion_fr_24so change it12:53
geoffWAok12:53
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geoffWAactually ill just install it12:53
geoffWAbrb12:53
coldgeoffwa yes12:53
orion_fr_24cold he s gone12:53
colddamn12:53
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coldall I need is a simple bootdisk12:53
orion_fr_24cold: lol you not lucky12:53
coldI know this is dead drop easy, but my disk aren't rewritable is I fuck up12:54
orion_fr_24cold: booting linux is not like wiindows bro'12:54
coldorion_fr_24 I know12:54
orion_fr_24cold: it s not just that simple12:54
orion_fr_24cold: have you tried on some vmware forums12:54
orion_fr_24cold: i m sure it would be more appropiate12:55
coldnot yet12:55
coldthe live cd is running right now from within windows12:55
vgei still dont get why you just dont back up imprtant data then remove partition and do vmware image12:56
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orion_fr_24cold: yeah12:56
orion_fr_24vge: programming is not just a question of datas12:56
coldvge too much of a hassle, my remote system is down right now12:57
coldand I have no trusted removable media12:57
orion_fr_24vge: it s also a personalized environement12:57
coldyes12:57
coldtrue12:57
coldto have to set back everything again is too much of a hassle12:57
orion_fr_24cold: i know i m a programmer as well12:57
coldits my working environment12:57
vgewhat suites you best12:57
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coldyea12:58
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orion_fr_24cold12:59
coldyes ?12:59
orion_fr_24cold: i think i got somethin 4 u12:59
orion_fr_24cold: take a look12:59
coldk12:59
orion_fr_24cold i dont have time to read all12:59
orion_fr_24cold: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/04/29/colinux.html12:59
Ragionorion01:01
orion_fr_24Ragion: yep ?01:01
Ragiondidnt work01:01
orion_fr_24Ragion: shit01:01
Ragioni tried adjusting screen, then i tried insatlling breezy kubuntu01:01
orion_fr_24send me a copy of your xorg.conf file01:02
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Ragionlike a black and white checker screen, then pink vertical lines01:02
orion_fr_24Ragion: and breezy is not better ?01:02
Ragionnope01:02
Ragionive used regulard ubuntu before, but i got a new video card01:02
Ragionthat may be it, the gefroe 660 GT OC01:02
orion_fr_24Ragion: that s strange really your card is a well know one it should recognize it01:02
Ragioncheck this out:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2752.001:03
orion_fr_24Ragion: gimme a copy of your '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'01:03
Ragionalright, ill have to reboot, hold on01:04
orion_fr_24Ragion: read the link from Ragion01:04
orion_fr_24Ragion: lol01:05
orion_fr_24Ragion: it could work01:05
Ragionim not sure how id install the drivers though01:05
Ragionif i cant even get the file from within kubuntu01:05
orion_fr_24Ragion: u should be able to acces this file anyway01:06
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orion_fr_24Ragion: let s go to PV01:06
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_manuelnotte a tutti gente :-)01:13
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os2macdoes anyone have any experience getting kismet running on Kubuntu?01:21
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orion_fr_24ftp://girard76520.hd.free.fr01:25
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_jimorion can I help you?01:27
orion_fr_24_jim: why daya think you can help me ?01:29
orion_fr_24_jim: do I sound like in need of help ?01:29
os2macbecause you pvt msg'd me.01:29
orion_fr_24os2mac: ???? no I did not01:30
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os2macyou pvt'd _jim...01:30
os2mache is me.01:30
orion_fr_24no I did not01:30
os2macok....01:30
orion_fr_24os2mac: what I m supposed having told you ?01:31
os2macdon't know it was a blank window....01:31
os2macthat is why I asked.01:31
orion_fr_24os2mac: howw01:31
orion_fr_24os2mac: ok01:31
orion_fr_24os2mac: must be a bug01:31
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orion_fr_24for those who wants MP3 ftp://girard76520.hd.free.fr01:32
drumlinehow do I get NFS going on #kubuntu?01:32
orion_fr_24drumline: NFS the game ????01:33
drumlinenah.. :)   Network File System...   I see Samba all over the place with a couple references to NFS, but I don't see an NFS admin.01:33
drumlinein a nice GUI package01:33
orion_fr_24drumline: hoo ok i prefer that01:34
orion_fr_24samba and nfs arent the same thing ???01:34
drumlineheck no :)01:34
orion_fr_24drumline: i dont know01:35
drumlineSamba mimics Microsoft's file sharing protocol.   NFS is the unix/linux way to do it.01:35
orion_fr_24hoo ok01:35
drumlineI prefer NFS...  it's very straightforward.01:36
orion_fr_24you want what server or client ?01:36
drumlineboth01:36
orion_fr_24check with 'sudo apt-get install nfs-common'01:36
drumlinenot installed by default eh?01:37
orion_fr_24qnd 'sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server'01:37
orion_fr_24no it s not01:37
drumlinegeez...  that's weird.01:37
drumlinecool.. i'll get em01:37
orion_fr_24drumline: i cant promiss it will work01:37
drumlineIt'll work.01:38
drumlineNFS is so simple01:38
orion_fr_24drumline: u shoul googlize a bit01:38
drumlinethe only reason I haven't checked adept this moment is because the adept updater is taking FOREVER on my k6-2 450 Mhz box  :)01:39
orion_fr_24drumline: so if u share a folder on windows u can acces it via NFS ???01:39
orion_fr_24drumline: true ??01:40
drumlineorion: there are some NFS tools for windows in the cygwin package...   But generally, you would setup the NFS share on a *ix box and use NFS between *ix boxes...    if you want windows boxes to connect to a *ix box's share, you'd use samba01:40
orion_fr_24drumline: ok01:40
drumlineNFS is more for communication between *ix boxes01:40
orion_fr_24drumline: gotcha01:41
drumlineBut if you have a load of Ubuntu boxes, I think the most efficient and simplest way would be to use NFS01:41
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orion_fr_24drumline: thx01:41
orion_fr_24drumline: anyway I only use macOS x and kubuntu01:41
orion_fr_24drumline: I m just curios01:41
drumlinebasically, setup a text file that specifies shares and permissions..      and on the client box:  mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/var/log /var/log       Unix permissions apply from there on out.01:42
orion_fr_24drumline: sounds nice01:42
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drumlineit is...  It's just not very common in a home environment...01:42
orion_fr_24drumline: secure enough ????01:42
drumlinesure.. . it's secure01:42
orion_fr_24drumline: cool01:43
orion_fr_24drumline: i ll take a look later01:43
orion_fr_24drumline: thx for the advice01:43
drumlinedepending on how you set it up, of course.01:43
drumlineyou're welcome.  enjoy :)01:43
orion_fr_24drumline: i ll go and enjoy my bed now01:43
orion_fr_24it s late in france01:43
orion_fr_241:47 in the morning01:44
orion_fr_24lol01:44
drumlineahhh... :)   sleep well!    I'm outta here also01:44
orion_fr_24bye everybody01:44
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whiskersim having problems with my kmenu, it wont save changes that i make01:48
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Xemanth^hmm i had that same problem couple hours ago01:51
Xemanth^whiskers: did you install your kubuntu from image? without updating01:51
whiskersi installed from the kubuntu cd01:52
whiskersand did all the updates01:52
whiskersi tried running it as sudo also but that didnt work either01:52
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murph2481i just did an apt-get update and then an apt-get upgrade.....will that update me to drapper-flight-3?? i am currently using flight-201:53
shawkinsmay...01:54
shawkinsmaybe*01:54
murph2481how do i findout?01:54
shawkinsyou may have to do... apt-get update01:54
shawkinsthen apt-get distupgrade01:54
shawkinsapt-get dist-upgrade01:54
shawkinscan't remember... do dist-upgrade first... that should do it01:54
whiskersis there mebbe a text file that i can edit the kmenu with?01:54
shawkins*first after the apt-get update..01:55
shawkinsgood question whiskers01:55
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shawkinsreally don't know..01:55
Xemanth^whiskers: did you uncomment all in /etc/apt/sources.list those deb01:55
murph2481alright well it looks like it is all updated01:55
murph2481is there a command or something i can run that will tell me the distro information?01:55
whiskersyes Xemanth^ except for the backports, i left those off01:56
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manuelkranyone can tell me a good source.list for kubuntu 5.10?01:57
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Xemanth^manuelkr: just uncomment in sources.list01:59
Elsan_Should I use Alsa or artsd? I'm currently using alsa with multiple sound outputs put I heard skype works with multiple sound outputs with artsd using a special command. But I fear Cedega(uses ALSA) will not work...01:59
Xemanth^all those deb01:59
Xemanth^Elsan_: alsa01:59
Elsan_I heard KDE 4 is not going to be artsd also. Any reasons for alsa, Xemanth^?02:00
Xemanth^i cant understand why cedega splitted from wine :| fucking idiots02:00
GameOver69hey i have installed ndiswrapper properly and my wireless works... and i set up the interfaces file as i am supposed to... but my wlan0 wont boot up with the computer i always have to type dhclient wlan0 in the terminal02:00
GameOver69anyone can help?02:00
Elsan_Because they had to pay for the cd protection and some technologies, Xemanth^.02:00
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Xemanth^Elsan_: i have always had problems with artsd02:00
murph2481GameOver69 i have the exact same issue02:00
Xemanth^with every machine i have used02:00
Xemanth^GameOver69: Acer 5020 ?02:01
GameOver69its just annoying u know02:01
GameOver69xemanth: no... its an hp computer dont know what mother board it has02:01
murph2481GameOver69 its very annoying and I have yet to find an answer02:01
Xemanth^GameOver69: ok :)02:02
GameOver69another issue.... i installed the oss driver thing so my sound card would work... and it does... i just cant get that to start upon startup... always have to type soundon02:02
GameOver69anyone help with that one?02:03
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_grigoryhey guys02:04
_grigoryis there HFS for linux?02:04
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GameOver69does anyone know if a ati radion 7500 mobility can be enabled in liinux... i have only seen instructions for newer drivers like 8500 plus02:05
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ownergameover just use the fglrx drivers02:06
GameOver69owner: will 3d work?02:07
owneryes02:07
GameOver69owner: how do i know if i have them installed already?02:08
GameOver69and enabled02:08
ownerfglrxinfo02:09
ownerin a terminal02:09
whiskersstill no luck on that kmenu not saving02:09
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GameOver69says coommand not found02:12
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GameOver69owner?02:15
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ownergameover you have to install fglrx drivers02:19
ownerwith synaptic02:19
ownerand restricted kernel modules matching your kernel02:20
Xemanth^lol02:20
Xemanth^fglrx is the most piece of shit i have known02:20
owneryeah but its the best ati owner can have02:20
ownerlol02:20
Xemanth^yeah unfortunately02:20
Xemanth^i had to bought ati with my laptop *cries*02:21
Xemanth^all my other comps have nvidia02:21
ownerfglrx drivers are incompatible with 2.6.15 kernel02:22
ownerbtw02:22
GameOver69i installed it02:23
GameOver69hope it works02:23
GameOver69how do i know what kernel i have02:23
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Xemanth^owner: ahm that was the problem why it didn't work on my laptop02:26
Xemanth^i have 2.6.1502:26
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Xemanth^i installed ati's fgrlx packages with --force --ignore-errors02:26
Xemanth^i mean --ignore-all02:27
Xemanth^blah02:27
shawkins--force is a great way to brake your system02:27
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bimberiGameOver69: "uname -r" (in a terminal)02:27
Xemanth^well couldnt get piece of shit ati working without it02:27
shawkinsregardless...02:27
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Xemanth^now i can play once game, it doesn't release opengl from it :>02:28
Xemanth^it just needs reboot02:28
Xemanth^i get huge kernel panic errors in dmesg02:29
ownerxemanth, it didnt work for me either02:29
ownerthen i read on rage3d forums02:29
ownerin the linux section02:29
Xemanth^but at least i can play tuxracer \o&02:29
ownerso im using 2.6.14 kernel02:30
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Xemanth^i cant understant how fucking bad drivers ati can do02:30
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ownerand they have been making them for a few years now02:31
Xemanth^always major problems with ati drivers on my comp02:31
Xemanth^comps*02:31
Xemanth^on windows side!02:31
Xemanth^i don't use control center shit, i use original control panel... some times when i navigate through control panel it freezes whole comp that i need to take cable off and take battery off02:32
owneryes that new control panel is silly02:34
owner.net crap02:34
Xemanth^i would like to have T02:34
Xemanth^AMD Turiob 64 with nVidia Go :)02:34
Xemanth^n*02:35
Xemanth^but why in god they don't make that combi :|02:35
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GameOver69owner: my 3d works horribly02:38
GameOver69i tried darwinia: man that ran horribly...... i thought my computer froze it ran so bad02:38
owneryou have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:39
ownerin terminal02:39
ownerand select fglrx02:39
owneror fglrxconfig02:39
ownersudo fglrxconfig02:39
ownerrun that02:39
GameOver69my card isnt on that list :(02:39
ownerwhat does sudo fglrxconfig do?02:40
ownerdoes it load02:40
GameOver69it gives u a list of supported cards02:40
GameOver69and i pick which one i have so it can configure it02:40
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owneryou dont have to pick a card02:40
ownerjust press enter02:40
GameOver69i have an ati mobiltiy 750002:40
GameOver69oh ok02:41
GameOver69it says mouse input02:41
GameOver69i have one in my laptop02:41
GameOver69which one02:41
GameOver69ps/2?02:41
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owneryeah02:42
owneri think so02:42
Xemanth^with fglrxconfig i managed to brake whole x02:42
ownerxemanth, i never had any probs with it02:42
ownerbut they removed it in new drivers02:43
GameOver69it seems to be givin me all the answers in brackats02:43
Xemanth^when x loaded it froze whole comp :D02:43
GameOver69Do you want to initialize xfree86-dga ?02:44
ownerjust press enter02:44
GameOver69all the way through?02:45
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owneryes02:46
Xemanth^GameOver69: i hope you backupped your xorg conf02:46
GameOver69xemanth02:47
GameOver69no i didnt02:47
ownerit makes a backup anyways02:47
ownerit renames xorg.conf02:47
ownerlook in etc/X11/02:47
GameOver69ok i pressed enter all the way02:47
GameOver69now what02:47
GameOver69it ifnished02:47
Xemanth^you should do that, i wouldn't count on ati's tools to back up02:47
Xemanth^GameOver69: kdm/startx02:48
GameOver69Xemanth: i only have startx in my usr/bin folder02:50
GameOver69run it from there?02:51
ownergameover he means reboot02:51
ownerbut before you do02:51
ownerwrite down this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:52
ownerif that driver doesnt work properly you can run that to chose vesa driver or old ati driver02:52
owneror rename old xorg.conf in /etc/X1102:52
GameOver69ok got it02:52
GameOver69when i restart go into usr.bin. then startx?02:53
ownerdoesnt kubuntu startx automatically?02:53
ownerit should work from any path startx02:53
GameOver69so that enables the drivers?02:53
GameOver69startx?02:54
Xemanth^no i don't mean reboot :D02:55
Xemanth^modprobe fglrx and startx02:55
Xemanth^but well ati is still in stone age02:56
Xemanth^dunnp02:56
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Xemanth^o02:56
Xemanth^i go sleep now02:56
Xemanth^clock  4 am here ->02:56
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adfwoooo kubuntu rocksss02:56
derekSanyone here know of a bittorrent client with a webui other than bittorrent03:03
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ownerazureus?03:06
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Xemanth^lol03:07
Xemanth^well azureus is shit :) i'm looking for good client03:08
ownerbittornado?03:09
Xemanth^its too oldschool03:09
Xemanth^:)03:09
ownerlol03:10
Xemanth^i wait linux utorrent03:10
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MrRiohey03:10
MrRiohow do i get something like xcompmgr on kde?03:10
ownerkompmgr03:11
MrRiowhich repo can i find that in?03:11
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ownerpress alt+f203:12
ownerand type in kompmgr03:12
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MrRioowner: cheers03:12
ownernp03:12
MrRiowhere do i go to setup fades?03:13
alaouisalut03:13
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Apoc0106owner: this is gameover... my computer froze i restarted and now i cant get into kubuntu03:13
Apoc0106im at the command prompt now... anywayi can fix this?03:14
ownersudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg03:14
ownerselect ati or vesa03:14
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Apoc0106should i attempt to auto detect video hardware?03:14
alaouisalut03:14
ownerno, just select03:14
ownerfrom the list03:15
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bretzelHi, How to get the universe and multiverse repos to work in Dapper ????03:15
Apoc0106so which one ati or vesa?03:15
ownertry ati03:15
owneror radeon if its  in the list03:15
owneror vesa as a last resort03:15
ownervesa works on all cards03:15
Apoc0106ok: it says please enter the video cards bus identifier?03:16
Apoc0106theres on in there do i press enter?03:16
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dannohi i have a floppy mount problem in kubuntu installed in ubuntu03:17
Apoc0106owner?03:17
owneryes just press enter03:18
Apoc0106ok use kernal framebuffer device interface? yes or no?03:18
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ownertry no03:19
MrRiowhere do i change kompmgr settings?03:19
dannoI tried to mount a floppy disk in Kubuntu but for some reason it wouldn't mount it it said it couldn't determine the filesystem, something like that, so I had to go to command line and mount it with sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy and IT FINALLY MOUNTED. But how do I get the system to mount it automatically without having to use sudo? this system is for some old folks who can't use command line03:19
dannodo I need some special setting in /etc/fstab?03:19
ownermrrio in kde control center03:20
Apoc0106owner: select the x.org server modules that should be loaded by default03:20
ownerjust use the defaults apoc03:20
dannohere is my current setting in /etc/fstab for floppy: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       003:20
dannobut it doesn't want to automount floppies. help?03:20
MrRioowner: look'n'feel -> style?03:20
dannoI would search the forums but they are down03:20
dannoand the #ubuntu people told me to come here since I'm using Kubuntu.03:21
Apoc0106owner: ok done03:21
Apoc0106restart?03:21
owneror type startx03:21
dannodo I need to specify vfat in my fstab settings file for floppy?03:22
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dark_suicdanno, it will never auto mount floppy drive03:23
dark_suicsince floppy drive doesn't have a mechanism to send the computer a signal when a floppy disk is inserted03:24
dannodark_suic: what I'm trying to do is have the floppy mount when I click on the floppy icon just like other linux distributions do03:24
dannodark_suic: yeah I mean when I click on the floppy icon03:24
dark_suicthen it just should mount when double clicking it03:24
dark_suicor right-click -> mount03:24
dark_suicshould just work03:24
dark_suicdoes media:/ work?03:24
dannodark_suic: thanks but it didnt I had to use sudo03:25
dannono it didnt03:25
dannoit tried loading it and said it couldnt determine the file type03:25
dannoi had to specify vfat in sudo mount03:25
dannoim trying to get it working for my grandparents so they dont have to learn the command line03:25
dark_suicwell, just change that in fstab and it should work03:25
dark_suictry changing auto for vfat in fstaba03:25
dark_suicfstab03:25
dark_suicnot sure to work, but could do it03:26
dannoit says noauto not auto03:26
dannoshould I change the noauto to auto?03:26
Apoc0106owner: ok i restarted andi get his error when loading in kde.... the following installation problem was detected while trying ot start KDE: no write access to /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:27
Apoc0106KDE is unable to start03:27
dannowait, should changing it from noauto to auto help or would that just mean loading the floppy at boot03:27
dannoI figured, if the cdrom has a filetype why not add vfat to the floppy?03:28
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Apoc0106then after that it says could not start ksmserver, chec, your installation03:28
ownersudo chown user:user -R /home/jo03:28
owneruser being your username03:28
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Apoc0106owner: ok03:30
Apoc0106now what03:30
ownersudo chgrp -R user:user /home/jo03:31
owneruser being your username03:31
dcodeI gotta dbus question03:31
dcodeI'm trying to use the session dbus, but when I start the session, no socket is made under /tmp03:31
Apoc0106owner: invalid group name user:user03:32
Apoc0106user being my user name of course03:32
owneryes03:32
Apoc0106ok but it says its invalid group name03:32
ownerbut chown worked right03:33
Apoc0106yes03:33
Apoc0106is there supposed to be a space between user: user?03:33
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ownerno03:34
Azunaihi guys can someone help me with a small problem with the ati help file and install03:34
Apoc0106ok well what do i do then... keeps saying invalid group name03:35
Azunaiive been to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 and done everything up to step 3 were it says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel thats were i get an error03:35
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ownertry chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:36
Apoc0106done03:37
ownertry startx again03:38
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KnowerrorsCan anyone tell me how to remove all carriage returns in a document?03:39
Apoc0106with start x.... i get in...and my icons and font seem bigger... but iget an error... COULD NOT OPEN NETWORK SOCKET... PLEASE CHECK THAT THE 'DCOPSERVER03:39
Apoc0106program is running03:39
dcodeKnowerrors: using sed, vim, or what?03:40
Knowerrorsopenoffice or kate03:40
Knowerrorsdcode: its a regular text document03:40
dcodein Kate, you can search for regular expressions right?03:41
dcodeby carriage return do you mean newline?  or is it a windows or mac document?03:41
Azunaican anyone help me with a small driver issue?03:41
Knowerrorsdcode: its a document I made by copy pasting a block of text from an email03:42
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dcodeKnowerrors, do a find and replace, search for \n and replace it with a space03:43
Apoc0106owner:im restarting03:43
bimberiKnowerrors: many editors will recognise \n as meaning the newline character.  You could try replacing \n with nothing03:43
ownerok03:43
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dcode:-(03:44
bimberidcode: :)03:44
dcode:-)03:44
dcodeI'm frowning at something else03:44
cyanid3i have a quick question03:44
dcodeI just rebooted my box03:44
bimberii was going to say03:44
dcodemount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: Invalid argument03:44
bimberiah03:44
Knowerrorsbimberi: ok... trying03:44
dcode:'(03:44
cyanid3how do i get / set the root password on a new install?03:44
dcodecyanid3: from your user shell, do: sudo su -c passwd03:45
dcodealthough, you really shouldn't need it03:45
dcodethat's the whole point of sudo03:45
cyanid3i know how to use sudo03:45
cyanid3but don't i have the root password?03:45
Apoc0106owner: i still get the same error03:45
cyanid3or atleast know something about the root account?03:45
dcodewith sudo, you use the users password03:45
Apoc0106about being unable to write to that file03:46
ownerwhich file?03:46
cyanid3so with ubuntu the root account isnt really used?03:46
Apoc0106ICEauthority03:46
dcodein /etc/sudoers, it states what commands a user is authorized to use as root.  by default the acct you  make in setup will be able to do everything as root03:46
ownertry sudo chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:46
ownerif thats the path it says03:46
dcodecyanid3, the root acct isn't ever directly used03:46
cyanid3that's what i needed03:46
cyanid3thanks03:46
dcodenp03:47
dcode;_-)03:47
cyanid3i 'll probably be back03:47
cyanid3_just_ installed this distro03:47
cyanid3still trying to make up my mind about it03:47
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cyanid3haha03:47
Apoc0106owner:  do  this through console login?03:47
owneryes03:47
ownerin fact im pretty sure you can delete the .ICEauthority file03:47
ownerbecause it generates a new one03:48
bimbericyanid3: using sudo means less time as root (so less chance of catastrophic typos) and one less password to manage03:48
dcodeso....for a cookie...who can tell me why my initrd all of a sudden would try to mount /dev/hda1 on /root03:48
ownerbut chmod should work03:48
dcodeso therefore I can't boot03:48
Apoc0106owner: ok i input that line03:48
ownerdo sudo chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:49
ownerand chown user:user -R /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:49
Apoc0106i just did that03:49
owneruser being your username03:49
cyanid3yeah bimberi, i guessed that.  Couldn't it still be bad for security though?03:49
cyanid3nm03:49
Apoc0106owner: done03:49
cyanid3that's not the point03:49
cyanid3the point is that it's good for a disto for everyone03:49
vge/usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found Aborted03:50
dcodecyanid3, the point is that it's better for security03:50
cyanid3and not as much of a multi user aspect right?03:50
vgewhat i did wrong?03:50
bimbericyanid3: i feel it's better (for those two reasons)03:50
dcodecyanid3, when a user uses sudo to execute a command...all commands are logged03:50
cyanid3true03:50
dcodethis is an issue I face at work03:50
dcodepeople like to log into the Administrator account on our windows boxes to make changes03:51
dcodeeven though they have the same permissions to do it with their own accounts03:51
Apoc0106owner: whats next03:51
cyanid3hmm03:51
dcodeyou lose the audit trail when you login as the Admin user....in this case root03:51
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cyanid3good point03:51
cyanid3why should i use some version of ubuntu instead of debian?03:51
ownersudo chown user:user -R /home/jo/.ICEauthority03:52
cyanid3(i am a debian guy)03:52
owneruser being your username03:52
cyanid3i guess i'm just looking for more info03:52
Apoc0106owner: ok done03:52
dcodecyanid3, I like Ubuntu because it follows the Debian philosophies (sp), but a more aggressive release cycle...which means it has more up-to-date software03:52
ownernow try starting kde apoc03:52
dcodeby that's my personal preference03:53
cyanid3i hear ya03:53
Apoc0106owner: by restarting or is there a command to get back in03:53
ownerstartx03:53
dcodeI'm a developer...so I like cutting edge features...even if it means it might break03:53
cyanid3but what about just using the testing or unstable branches?03:53
owneror alt f603:53
ownercntrl alt f603:53
cyanid3(in debian)03:53
owneri mean f703:53
Apoc0106owner startx always works... but i get the DCOP communications error with startx03:53
dcodeI've ran Debian Sid....but it just seems more sketchy because you have all these developers dumping stuff into sid that basically have no quality testing at all03:54
dcodeand a lot of stuff gets broken because of it03:54
Apoc0106owner: says couldnot open network socket, please check that "dcopserver" program is running03:54
cyanid3yeah03:54
dcodewith Ubuntu....at least they ran the software once or twice before they ship it off03:54
cyanid3yeah03:54
cyanid3can i use a debian package in ubuntu?03:55
dcodeit's true that Ubuntu has much less software repository than debian, but you can pretty much use any deb package with Ubuntu03:55
dcode:-D03:55
cyanid3haha03:55
cyanid3okay03:55
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cyanid3man, i have some questions, haha03:55
cyanid3one more for now03:55
dcodek03:55
dcodethen I boot the recovery cd03:55
Apoc0106owner: back in console cntr, alt, f7doesnt get me back into kde03:55
cyanid3is there a good place for me to learn how to use apt the sources.list with ubuntu?03:56
dcodehmm...what do you mean exactly?03:56
cyanid3i noticed nonstandard repository names in the list (for debian)03:56
cyanid3let me get an example03:56
cyanid3like 'restricted', or 'universe'03:57
cyanid3 or multiverse03:57
cyanid3haha03:57
dcodeokay...um...Ubuntu has a pretty good wiki03:58
dcodesec...03:58
ownerapoc try chown -R user:user .DCOPserver*03:58
cyanid3sweet, thanks03:58
owneruser being your username03:58
ownerdo that in your home directory03:58
dcodecyanid3: I can give you a quick rundown as I see it (I'm not an expert.....yet)03:58
ownerif you do ls -all03:59
owneryou should see some .DCOPserver directories03:59
ownerthe permissions have been set wrong03:59
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dcodethere's obviously the release...like breezy or dapper, etc03:59
Apoc0106owner: my homedirectory being /home/joe/03:59
yonkeltronis there a way to get firefox 1.5 in ubuntu now?03:59
vgeis ubuntuforums gonna be up sometimes soon?...03:59
dcodemain....is the equiv of stable03:59
owneryes04:00
Apoc0106saysno such file or directory04:00
Apoc0106for the command04:00
ownerchown -R user:user .DCOPserver*.*04:00
ownertry like that04:00
dcoderestricted contains software that isn't neccessarily free....but useful for desktop system....like nvidia drivers04:00
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dcodeI think that's contrib in Debian....altough D's is more conservative I think04:01
Apoc0106owner: same error04:01
vgeyonkeltron: i followed thease instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion04:01
ownerif you type ls -all04:01
ownerdo you see any dcop directories04:01
dcodeuniverse is software outside the core system....it's more similar to testing04:01
dcodeand multiverse is everything in the whole repository04:01
Apoc0106owner: i cant see the whole list04:02
Apoc0106just the end04:02
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dcodecyanid3: that's everything I think04:02
yonkeltronvge: thanx!04:02
ownertry this04:02
ownerrm .DCOPServer*04:02
ownerin your home directory04:03
dcodehe's not even here anymore is he?04:03
ownerie /home/user04:03
dcodebah04:03
Apoc0106cannot remove04:03
Apoc0106no such file or directory04:03
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cyanid3wow04:03
cyanid3sorry about hat04:03
cyanid3that04:03
ownerrm .DCOPServer*04:03
dcodeheh04:03
cyanid3my connection is really weird right now04:03
ownerrm .ICEauthority*04:03
ownerand try that04:03
cyanid3i'm getting a 5 k connecton04:04
cyanid3i'm reading what you posted now04:04
Apoc0106ok that worked04:04
dcodewell...mines faster....but i'm on satellite so I'm very latent04:04
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ownerrm .mcop04:05
ownerrm .mcoprc04:05
ownerrm .Xauth*04:05
cyanid3that's useful04:05
cyanid3thansk04:05
ownerthen try rebooting04:05
dcodenp04:05
ownerit should recreate all the temp files04:05
cyanid3i'm on a 3 Meg connection04:05
cyanid3so i'm a little confused04:06
cyanid3Megabit that is04:06
Apoc0106owner: no .mcop, .mcoprc files04:06
rancecould someone help me out with an issue on ssh server startup, from the service configuration Im trying to start the ssh server, and im getting an error message that says startup failed, but I cant find any reason why, and the log viewer didnt show anything04:06
dannook now that the floppy loads after changing <type> auto -> to -> <type> vfat it doesn't let me write to it. What setting do I need to change in /etc/fstab for this? sounds like a permissions issue?04:06
Apoc0106owner: Xauth deleted though04:06
dcodecyanid3: I would be too04:06
dannothis is weird, I've used plenty of Linux distributions and never had this floppy issue04:07
ownertry rebooting apoc04:08
Apoc0106owner: ok04:08
dannowhy do I have to use sudo to write to a floppy?04:08
cyanid3that was fun04:08
cyanid3apparently i scheduled kget to download the dvd version of knoppix tonight04:09
cyanid3on my other computer04:09
cyanid3and it was taking up my bandwidth04:09
cyanid3dcode, are you a casual developer, or do you do commercial stuff?04:10
Apoc0106owner: no errors this time04:11
bimberidanno: what version of pmount do you have? "dpkg -l pmount"04:11
ownergood04:11
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dcodecyanid3: I'm more of a casual, but I want to get into more commercial stuff.  I do alot of custom scripting and db development commercially04:11
Ragionhey04:11
Apoc0106owner: so is it over?04:11
ownershould be fine04:11
Apoc0106owner: do i have to do startx for playing 3d games/04:11
ownersomehow some of your temp files got corrupted or permissions changed04:11
Apoc0106or it will just work04:11
ownerbut they are fixed now04:12
cyanid3cool04:12
dannobimberi: 0.9.6-1~breezy04:12
dcodecyanid3: I also do web programming/scripting commercially...mainly in PHP...I wrote a nice chunk of WordpressMU too04:12
ownerapoc, startx just boots into kde04:12
ownerif you are running kde you dont need to do it04:12
dcodealthough I haven't looked at that in almost a year04:12
cyanid3way to go with the php04:12
cyanid3i do a lot of php myself04:12
dannoshould I change user to my username in /etc/fstab?04:12
Apoc0106so now the game i tried should run better?04:12
bimberidanno: ok, that looks up to date - there was an issue with an earlier version04:12
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ownerwhich driver did you select when you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg04:13
dannobimberi: oh thanks for telling me this ;)04:13
Apoc0106ati04:13
cyanid3rance, did you make any changes to the sshd.conf file?04:13
dcodeI'm a big fan of it....I can't stand VB so ASP is out...and JSP & ColdFusion are costly....plus I like the C-like syntax04:13
ownershould work apoc04:13
dcodeand perl is just too sloppy for me04:13
dcodefor web work anyway04:13
ownerradeon should work if its listed as well04:13
Ragiondoes anyone here have a geforce 6600 gt oc?04:13
ownermight be better04:13
dannois this just becuase kubuntu uses no root account so user=root but its loading it with sudo only write permissions?04:13
cyanid3i agree04:13
ownerbut fglrx doesnt work as you found out.,04:13
dannothis is crazy ive never had a problem mounting and writing to a floppy on other distros04:14
cyanid3with everything that you just said actualy04:14
owneri think the old fglrx worked but not the new ones for your card04:14
dcodeheh04:14
cyanid3but that's probably the case with most people that are involved in some form or another in the open source community04:14
Apoc0106owner: still runs like crap :(04:15
dannoin /etc/fstab do I need to change "user" to my username to have write access to floppy?04:15
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cyanid3i'm not a big fan of microsoft, even though i have to support it04:15
rancecyanid3: sorry I missed your response, no I didnt make any changed to the sshd.conf file04:15
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dcodecyanid3: yeah pretty much....although I know some JSP developers...04:16
dannooh do I need to add -o umask=(your umask here) to /etc/fstab?04:16
dcodecyanid3: and some die-hard perl fanatics04:16
dcodelol04:16
cyanid3yeah04:16
cyanid3perl is okay for some stuff though04:16
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dcodeI like perl for CLI stuff where shell scripts generally won't do04:17
Apoc0106is it that darwinia is just a grahpic intensive game... i mean my card isnt that great... but this doesnt look like it would kill my memory04:17
cyanid3wow04:17
cyanid3um, nevermind04:18
rancehas anyone been able to use either aria or sql-ledger04:18
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dcode?04:21
cyanid3rance, did you get any more detail when ssh failed to start, or did it just fail?04:21
cyanid3dcode, i thought that kubuntu didnt come with a ssh client, but i was wrong04:21
dcodeheh04:21
dcodeman....I really gotta stop burning CDs and not labelling them....I got a stack of unknown discs right here04:22
dcodeI gotta mount em to see what the hell is on them04:22
cyanid3that stinks04:22
cyanid3i keep a permanent marker ritght at my desk, next to my spindle04:22
dcodeyeah...I use to...people keep making off with it....04:23
rancecyanid3, no detail, it just failed04:23
dcodeI use to actually keep like 3 sharpies right here04:23
dcodethey're all gone04:23
danno wow I google and my problem says (solved) in a thread title but too bad the ubuntu forums are DOWN so I can't read the solution !!!!04:23
dcodedanno: google cache?04:23
crimsundanno: cache?04:23
dcodeheh04:23
dannoi tried google cache doesnt load it :(04:23
dcode:-(04:23
dcodebummer04:23
cyanid3sorry man, try removing ssh and reinstalling it04:23
cyanid3that's all that i can say if you're not getting any errors at all04:24
dannoone google result says: " I have experienced the same problem with Ubuntu from Hoary to Breezy, a simple thing like saving to floppy is a task for a sysadmin"04:24
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dcodebrb....gonna raid my roommates desk for sharpies04:24
ranceyes, thats all I get, no errors, it just doesnt start04:24
rancethanks04:24
rancei'll try to uninstall it04:25
dcodew00t....found an ultra fine point and a fine point04:26
cyanid3nice04:26
cyanid3you a student somewhere?04:26
dcode:-( unfortunately not at the moment04:27
dcodeI'll be going back to school in Aug04:27
cyanid3ah04:27
cyanid3that's cool04:27
dcodeUniversity of Missouri - Rolla04:27
cyanid3awesome04:27
dcodeI work for the federal government right now04:27
cyanid3interesting04:27
dcodeheh04:27
cyanid3what do you do?04:28
dcodeyou're not a spy are you?04:28
dcodeheh04:28
cyanid3haha04:28
dcodeI'm Tier 2 Helpdesk....04:28
dcodebut I'm the only Tier 2 guy04:28
cyanid3busy stuff04:28
cyanid3i'm guessing04:28
dcodemostly I manage the Cisco switches and routers, but I do alot of server scripting for the win admins that just don't get it04:29
cyanid3haha04:29
dcodeand a dance as often as I can in the security circle04:29
cyanid3yeah04:29
dcodeand when I get free time I work calls from end users04:29
dcodemy best friend (my roommate from whom I stole the sharpies) is the security administrator04:29
cyanid3i'm majoring in computer information ssytems04:29
dcodeI'm Comp Sci04:29
cyanid3yeah, i wanted to do that04:30
cyanid3i found out in high school that i hated math04:30
dcodeI can do SysAdmin....I could do it for my career....but I enjoy programming far more04:30
cyanid3but i could kick butt with computers04:30
dcodeyeah...that'd be a problem04:30
cyanid3heh04:30
dcodemostly depending on your Uni04:30
cyanid3programming is tough in the us though04:30
cyanid3only getting tougher too04:31
cyanid3i hope that you're talented : )04:31
dcodethe first school I went to required Calc 1 & 2 only....UMR requires that plus 3, Linear Alg, Engineering Stat, Dif EQ....blegh04:31
cyanid3haha04:31
dcodethere's still quite a demand for programmers...and I have a lot of paper experience too04:31
cyanid3yeah04:31
dcodei.e. I'm a federal technician for the military...04:32
dcodeI'm in the military as a computer tech04:32
dcodeI lead a team of computer tech in the military04:32
cyanid3that's cool04:32
dcodeplus I'm a programmer for robotics team at UMR04:32
cyanid3i wanted to join the army04:32
dcodethe Army has done alot for me04:32
dcodeI'm in the Army National Guard04:32
cyanid3but i told the guy at the recruiting place the i had asthma and he escorted me to the door04:33
dcodeyeah....that'll gig ya04:33
dannohow can I write to a floppy as a user it wont let me unless I use sudo and my grandparents cant do that04:33
cyanid3i even took this initial placement test, and scored really well first04:33
dcodeis it bad asthma?04:33
cyanid3not really04:33
dcodethe big thing is...as long as you can complete Basic training without dying...you're good to go04:34
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cyanid3dont they put you in some sort of a gas chamber?04:34
dcodebut it's hard to get someone past the review board with asthma04:34
dcodeyeah....you have to breath CS gas for about 3-5 seconds....04:34
dcodeyou learn how to make your gas mask work04:35
dcodeI never quite thought of the effect of CS gas on someone with asthma04:35
cyanid3aha04:35
dcodeI don't imagine it would be fun04:35
cyanid3think of - not being able to breathe- and you'll get close04:35
dcodeyou go in with your mask on....you have to take it off and say your name, rank, and SSN04:35
dcodeand then you put it back on04:36
cyanid3what was it like?04:36
dannocan someone load this page because it wont load for me and I really need to read it now: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-95950.html+floppy+write+ubuntu+-usb&hl=en04:36
dcodewell...it effects everyone different...and it's a pretty diluted mix that they use for that training04:36
cyanid3makes sense04:36
dcodeI'm lucky, in that, CS gas doesn't do anything to me except make my eyes water04:36
dcodeI can breath it fine04:37
cyanid3haha04:37
cyanid3lucky bum04:37
dcodesome people, it makes their sweat pores burn and eyes and they choke04:37
cyanid3wow04:37
dcodeI mean....CS is a choking agent04:37
dcodedanno, ubuntuforums is down04:37
dcodeI've needed it several times this weekend to no avail04:38
cyanid3i think that i should have tried to help that person earlier with ssh problems04:38
cyanid3i'm having problems now04:38
cyanid3haha04:38
cyanid3it's saying not hostkeys available04:39
dcodewow....the dapper install cd is nice....I booted it before from USB...but the cd is nice04:39
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dannodcode: i know04:39
dcodedanno, nobody is gonna be able to load it04:39
dcodethe server is offline04:39
dannodcode: ok thank u04:41
dcodeanyone ever done a rescue on a 7" LCD screen at 1024x768?04:41
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dcodeyou gotta squint :-p04:41
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yonkeltronanyone notice that katapult doesn't do well with certain applications04:41
yonkeltron?04:41
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cyanid3what's the best way to start the ssh daemon in kubuntu?04:42
eightieskcan some one help me i dunno why my windows doesn't show on the panel.04:42
cyanid3i tried /etc/init.d/ssh start, and sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start04:42
dcodecyanid3: I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'04:43
dcodeeightiesk: there's an option in the panel for that04:43
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dcodemight check it04:43
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cyanid3haha04:43
cyanid3the beauty of reading logs04:44
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eightieskdcode,  where at though04:44
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dcodeeightiesk: couldn't say....my box is dead right now04:45
dcodeI'm giving it CPR as we speak....er....chat....er........type04:45
eightieskthanks04:45
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kokujoCan someone help me build WINE from source?  I follow the instructions from WineHQ and when I go to make the package it tells me "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"04:46
dannowhen I google the only instructions for writing to a floppy in ubuntu mention using sudo.. wtf ?04:47
bimberikokujo: you need to install build-essential but you can get later wine versions via apt-get ...04:47
bimberi!wine04:47
bimberi!+wine04:48
uboturumour has it, wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq04:48
eightieskhow do i get movies to play in kde?04:48
kokujoalready have build-essential04:48
kokujotried the sources.list, tells me there's no binary available04:48
johndarkhorseubotu: tell eightiesk about multimedia04:48
bimberikokujo: are you running i386?04:48
kokujoamd6404:49
bimberikokujo: ah, ok, ignore the wine repos thing then, they're only for i38604:50
kokujoeven the source?04:50
dcodeah bloody hell....I have a sneaking suspicion that the latest kernel initrd doesn't support xfs04:50
bimberikokujo: no, the binaries.  I don't know about compiling for amd6404:51
kokujookay04:51
kokujoat least I know it's not me now...partially anyways.  Thanks.04:51
bimberikokujo: i believe there are ways though - when the forums come back you could do a search for 'wine amd64'04:52
kokujookay04:52
kokujothanks04:52
bimberikokujo: as to the 'cannot create executables' - perhaps you could try compiling a 'Hello World' program04:52
bimberikokujo: yw :)04:52
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dashinhoHello. Anyone knows if using fonts in kde with antialiasing and style hingting none is bad for the eyes?04:59
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dcodedashinho: like detrimental to your eyes?05:12
dcodeor more difficult to see or what?05:12
koshnot for me it has not been05:13
dcodeit's just a preference on eye candy05:13
dcodecan somebody do me a HUGE favor and drop their /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin?05:13
dcodeI think mines jacked up and would like to compare05:14
koshmine would be far far too diferent sorry05:14
dcodewell05:14
dcodehere's my problem05:14
dcodemy kernel and initrd lines look like this:05:14
dcodekernel/boot/vmlinuz-blah blah05:14
dcodeshouldn't there be a space after kernel?05:15
dcodeinitrd is:  initrd/boot/initrd.img-blah05:15
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bimberidcode: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750305:16
hawkingdoes kopete support some kind of encryption?05:17
dcodety bimberi05:17
dcodethat wasn't the problem :-(05:18
bimberidcode: yw :)  oh well :(05:18
dcodef##@@@##~!!~!!!!!!!1105:18
dcodewhy does this crap always happen to me?05:18
dcodeI've been working on this box all weekend getting it tweaked so I have a nice devel environment....and now the shit won't boot05:19
yonkeltronare there any monospace fonts that are included with all KDE installs?05:19
koshcan you give a better description of what is wrong? when is it failing? what is the error message? what is the last thing you see it doing?05:20
dcodehawking: ywa05:20
dcodeyes05:20
koshout of curiosity are you running one of the precompiled ubuntu kernels or did you build your own?05:20
hawkingdcode : how can i set it?05:20
dcodekosh, I updgraded to 2.6.15-13 (i think)...not sure on the micro....whatever version05:21
dcodemight be -1505:21
koshboot one of your older kernels then05:21
dcodeno dice05:21
koshthe hal in breezy is not compat with 2.6.1505:21
dcodethe initrd is ficked05:21
koshwhy no dice? don't you leave the older kernels in the system?05:21
dcodeyes05:21
koshyeah so hit esc or whatever it is to get the grub menu and boot the older kernel directly05:22
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koshyou can even use the commandline to write the grub lines directly05:22
dcodeit fails during mount of the root filesystem05:22
dcodeI can boot the old kernels05:22
dcodebut the initrd is hosed I guess05:22
koshso boot the older kernel with the older initrd05:22
koshwith grub you can boot any kernel on the system05:22
koshnot just the one configured05:22
dcodeit doesn't work for some reason...I don't know why....05:23
dcodeI'm aware of that05:23
koshso boot one of the older ones like a 2.6.13 one which is what ubuntu comes with05:23
dcodeI get: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: Invalid argument05:23
dcodenone of the kernels work05:23
koshthat is not a kernel or grub problem then05:24
koshI am going to assume that you have one hardrive and it is an ide drive right?05:24
dcodeI didn't say it was...I said it was a boot problem ;-)05:24
dcoderight05:24
dcodeb rb05:24
dashinhodcode, just wondering05:25
koshI wonder how the heck you got that problem05:26
dashinhomaybe it is bad, and i am using it ^^05:26
koshthe most common thing I see on google for that so far is a corrupted partition table05:26
dcodewell...I think the problem is I'm using xfs...and for some reason that isn't playing well05:27
dcodehmm05:27
dcodedahinho....what are you talking about?05:28
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dashinhoreally.. don't know05:28
dashinholol05:28
dcodelmao05:28
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johnnybezakhey guys whats a lightweight qt text editor?05:31
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dcodecat ?05:33
dcodelol...j/k05:33
dcodethat doesn't use Qt05:33
dcode:-p05:33
hawkingdcode : how can i set this encryption thing in kopete?05:33
dcodehawking.....no clue...sorry05:34
hawkingdcode : great thanks05:34
hawkingI'll google05:34
dcodeI just saw on kopete.kde.org that it supported it05:34
hawkingok05:34
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dcodeI take that back...my root fs is ext305:42
dcodeI'm using xfs on my server box05:42
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rr73why when there is a power drop it  gets a new ip address via dhcp and wont get the old one?05:51
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rr73i would really like to know why it is gay like that05:52
frank23rr73: that is what dhcp does: allocates IP adresses dynamically05:52
rr73no other distro that ive seen does that, they all go back to their normal dhcp address05:52
rr73then why are there gaps in the numbers?05:53
rr73it jumps around a bunch05:53
whiskersive got a problem with kmenu, it wont save any edits that i make to it05:54
whiskerskubuntu v 5.1005:54
rr73try #kde yet?05:54
whiskersno one there answers05:54
rr73better then here05:55
rr73one of the best place i found my answeres05:55
rr73some which are not relating to kde05:55
whiskersi can try both :P05:55
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rr73i like kubuntu but i am stuck with it05:56
rr73wish xandros could support my sata card and drive05:57
whiskersxandros isnt free05:58
whiskers:P05:58
rr73i dl the free version05:58
rr73yes it is05:58
whiskersthe free one limits its use such as cd burning is capped at some rediculous speed05:59
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paelscritanyone know the easiest way to burn a dvx avi back onto a dvd?06:01
rr73not take it off06:02
rr73?06:02
hawkinganyone who managed to get kmail working for gmail here?06:09
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pussfelleri had it working06:19
pussfellerthere are instructions for it on the gmail site06:19
pussfellerused to be anyways06:19
hawkingpussfeller : that doesn't work for sending mails06:19
hawkingand for receiving ... the port written there is wrong06:20
pussfelleri had it working sending mails06:20
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pussfellerits been a while tho, i finally just started using gmail itself cause its cooler06:20
dcodekosh: I fixed the problem, in case you were interested06:21
hawkinghmm which port do you use?06:21
hawkingthey tell about 2 ports06:21
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dcodekosh: the journal was screwed up on the ext3 partition06:22
dcodekosh: I followed the instructions here: http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2002-July/041193.html06:22
johndarkhorsehawking: choose the 'other' option on gmail.com instructions page06:22
dcodekosh: that fixed it right up....not sure what caused it tho...06:22
pussfelleri cant remember, 443? 003 maybe06:22
pussfellererr 99306:22
hawkingthe site says 465 or 58706:22
pussfellerthose i gave are secure imap i think06:23
hawkingso you mark ssl or tls?06:24
hawkingthe site says Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)06:26
hawkingI'm confused06:26
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pussfellertry each one and see06:26
pussfelleror check what server supports06:26
pussfelleri remember it was a pain to get everything right....06:26
dcode993 is SSL or TLS06:27
dcodeTLS replaced SSL06:27
dcodeit's like SSLv306:27
hawkingI see06:31
hawkingI tried both doesn't work06:32
robotgeekhawking: gmail?06:34
hawkingyes06:34
hawkingI can't send mails06:34
robotgeekhttp://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=155506:35
robotgeekare you trying to configure kmail?06:35
hawkingyeah06:35
hawkingrobotgeek: that link is a mess06:36
hawkingthe ports are wrong there I guess06:36
hawkingas port 950 is the port for incoming mail not 99506:36
hawkingat least that worked for e06:37
hawkingme06:37
robotgeekhmm, i use 99506:37
robotgeekhttp://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Problem-solving/browse_thread/thread/2215d23c240ec78d/f8398747822a7e40?q=kmail&rnum=3#f8398747822a7e4006:37
hawkingthat's about receivin06:38
hawkingI can receive06:38
hawkingcan't send06:38
hawkingmy setting is smtp.gmail.com:587 TLS06:39
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robotgeekhawking: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-with-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-and-kmail.html06:40
hawkingthat also tells nothing about it06:41
hawkingI read those already06:41
robotgeekwhat error do you get, unfortunately i am not at my box right now06:42
hawkingnothing special just says couldn't send mail06:42
hawkingrobotgeek : oh yeah got it :)06:45
robotgeekhawking: sorry, can't be of any help to you right now, i dunno anything new06:45
robotgeekhawking: great!06:45
hawkingit works like charm now :))06:45
hawkingthanks for helping06:45
robotgeeki've got move all my fetchmailrc and stuff to the box now06:46
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eightieskhey06:53
robotgeekhey eightiesk06:53
eightieskthanks for the help earlyer.06:53
eightieskdo you know how i might update firefox to 1.5?06:54
sampan!firefox1.506:55
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:55
eightieskthnaks06:55
sampansure :)06:55
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eightiesknow another question why won't kaffine open my video files or music?06:56
eightiesk!kaffine06:56
ubotueightiesk: Do they come in packets of five?06:56
eightiesk!kaffeine06:56
ubotuSome people juggle geese, eightiesk06:56
eightieski dunno06:56
eightiesklol06:56
eightiesk!kaffeine06:56
whiskersusing kubuntu 5.10 with kde 3.4.3, my kde menu wont save any changes that i try to make to the kmenu06:57
whiskerswhen i run it from a console it gives an error06:57
whiskerslibpng error Not a PNG file06:58
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whiskersX Error BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 306:58
robotgeekeightiesk: codecs?06:58
robotgeekeightiesk, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats06:59
eightieskno i get06:59
eightieskerrors in06:59
eightiesktotem too.06:59
eightieskthe error reads The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.07:00
robotgeekeightiesk: hmm, really weird07:01
whiskersive already tried google, and the closest i can find is a reference to a ubuntu forums page, that wont come up :(07:01
hatake_kakashianyone know how to reconfigure xorg config files?07:02
robotgeekhawking, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:03
robotgeekhatake_kakashi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg07:03
hatake_kakashita07:03
hawkingrobotgeek : no I won't :p07:03
eightiesklol07:03
eightieskrobotgeek, any chance of helping me with the video output?07:05
_enfactits rediculous that amarok/kubuntu does not come out of the box being able to play mp3s07:05
_enfactthese are the reasons people stop using linux when they try it07:05
_enfactjeez07:05
eightiesklol07:05
robotgeek_enfact: licensing issues07:05
eightieskthank makes sence07:05
_enfactfigures07:05
robotgeekeightiesk: i don't quite know07:05
eightieskhummm...07:05
eightieskhow would you install mp3 support?07:06
whiskersyou need to dl the gstreamer.mad file07:06
whiskersand some adept-mpeg07:06
whiskerslook in adept for it07:06
_enfactive got it working but for a normal user07:06
whiskersits in one of the univere sources07:06
_enfactno way would they go through  that, even tho its simple, two packages07:06
_enfactopen console --> dpkg -i package.deb07:07
robotgeekeightiesk, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats07:07
_enfactno way normal people are going to even fathon how to do that, or do it in less than a couple hours07:07
_enfactwhat is the deal with the licensing, mp3 format needs a license?07:07
eightiesksudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad right?07:08
_enfactno07:09
whiskerslook for it in the adept07:09
whiskersjust search07:09
_enfacta normal user would have to install the universal back port stuff07:09
_enfactits not there out of the box07:09
_enfactusers would have to do further work to be able to see it there07:09
_enfacti might be on crack but didnt hoary play mp3's right out of the install/07:10
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whiskersthis kmenu thing, any ideas how to fix it?07:10
kosh_enfact: it is because of patent things07:13
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kosh_enfact: it is not really legal to play mp3s without a license and ubuntu/debian are trying to remain in the legal clear07:13
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whiskerswho owns the licence?07:13
koshfranhauffer I think is the company07:13
sampanif it's so "ridiculous" start lobbying to change the law07:14
sampanor volunteer your money to pay the licensing fee :)07:14
koshthere are those doing it07:14
koshI am hoping instead for the great lawyer purge :)07:14
sampankosh, i know -- i was sorta addressing _enfact07:14
amazoneverydayOkay guys, I've got a good one... kdm won't let me log in, when I type in my username and password it just blanks the screen out as if it's starting a session and then spits me back out at the login prompt.07:14
amazoneverydayBut I can switch to the terminal with ctrl-alt-f1 and log in fine there, and killall kdm, then startx and my session starts up fine07:15
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amazoneverydayAny clues?07:15
koshI think  that the 9mm solution will work better then lobbying at this point07:15
sampankosh, hehehehe -- well just moving to open formats would help too -- support commercial options for OSS formats (ogg players instead of mp3-only)07:16
koshI use ogg for all of my audio07:17
koshthat I rip from cds that I buy07:17
sampanamazoneveryday  sorry i have no clue (not ignoring you, just haven't a clue what would cause that)07:17
koshbut I only get actual cds not those drm cd like things07:17
amazoneverydaysampan thanks, just thought i'd ask07:17
koshhowever the main reason I started doing that is that oggs at 500kbs sound better then you can get an mp3 to sound07:17
sampanamazoneveryday  keep asking -- at different times of day there are lots of different people in here -- i'm quite newb -- i'd imagine eventually if you're persistent someone will know07:18
sampankosh *nod* i'm switching to ogg too.  though i still have a lot of legacy mp3 files (without cds) that i can't do without.  still, when i get a portable mp3 player, it'll for sure be one that plays ogg and isn't limited to patented formats07:20
koshwell I don't use portable players at all and have no intention of it right now07:20
koshhowever I have been using oggs for years now07:20
koshwell see you later07:21
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EightiesK!firefox07:52
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EightiesK!firefox1.507:53
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion07:53
Potus_good morning07:54
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hawkinghow can i make someone who has sshed to my machine log off07:56
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EightiesKhow do i uninstall gnome and make kde deafult?07:57
EightiesKgnome errors.07:57
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_robinhow to use Metabar?08:03
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eightieskanyone know how i can uninstall gnome and reinstall it?08:06
eightieskit won't start.08:06
NeoChaosXare you in kde?08:06
eightieskyea08:07
NeoChaosXremove any packages starting with "libgnome"08:07
NeoChaosXthen just install ubuntu-desktop again08:07
_robinhow to use Metabar?08:07
johndarkhorseeightiesk: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop08:08
NeoChaosXNever heard of Metabar08:08
NeoChaosXjohndarkhorse: That works on metapackages?08:08
_robink08:08
eightieskjohndarkhorse, thanks is there ne way to completly remove it?08:09
johndarkhorseeightiesk: see NeoChaosX's method08:09
eightieskic...08:09
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eightieski'm partial to some of my stuff like xchat and firefox i'll just keep it.08:10
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eightieskne 1 know how to install  azureus08:16
johndarkhorseubotu: tell eightiesk about azureus08:16
eightieskumm08:19
eightieskj2re1.4 libcommons-cli-java liblog4j1.2-java libseda-java libswt-gtk-3.1-java08:20
eightieskwhats them programs?08:20
eightieskor how do i install them?08:20
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johndarkhorseasking and quitting isnt gonna cut it08:23
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EightiesKu there?08:25
EightiesKjohndarkhorse:08:27
johndarkhorseEightiesK: dont ask and run08:27
johndarkhorseubotu: tell EightiesK about javadebs08:27
EightiesKthe electric flashed here.08:28
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dan_hi guys08:32
dan_how are you?08:32
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dan_why isnt anyone speaking?08:36
johndarkhorsebecause nobody has anything to say?08:37
dan_johndarhhorse: well, you should find something to say08:37
johndarkhorsedan_: i answer questions here about kubuntu08:37
johndarkhorsedan_: i yak mindlessly in #kubuntu-offtopic08:37
johndarkhorsedan_: which atm is much more lively08:38
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servjewhello, im attempting to install kubuntu on a computer that already has windows xp on the drive, its an 80 gig drive, i want 15 gigs for linux, how do i proceed ? im at the partitioning method dialog, where it asks if i want to resize ide2 master and use freed space, or use the largest continuor free space or manually edit the partition table, how do i make it leave windows there and install linux >?10:07
servjewi havent defragged the thing though, maybe i should ?10:08
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Tm_Tservjew: yes you should10:09
sampanservjew  definitely defrag10:09
johndarkhorseservjew: the installer doesnt need a defragged drive to work, although you may wish to do it for your own comfort10:09
sampani borked a win install once because i forgot to defrag10:09
johndarkhorsesampan: "win install" ?10:10
sampanjohndarkhorse  the linux partition cut right over some key winxp files10:10
sampanwhen i resized it10:10
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sampanor rather, because i didn't defrag, i had win files right where i cut the partition -- hence the repartitioning borked my winxp10:11
sampanit wasn't pretty10:11
johndarkhorsesampan: ntfsprogs homepage says defragging isnt necessary. ymmv10:11
sampan*shrug* all i know is my experience -- win was fine, i repartitioned without defragging and windows was no longer fine.10:12
johndarkhorsei've never had a problem with client machines10:13
sampanmaybe i'm just unlucky -- automatix broke my ubuntu too, yet people come in and say it didn't break their ubuntu and works flawlessly -- experiential knowledge is, by definition, limited and tentative.10:15
johndarkhorsesampan: well, don't get me started on automatix10:15
johndarkhorsesampan: i saw some heinous use of code in it10:15
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sampani'm not meaning to -- i'm just suggesting that because some people report it working well, doesn't mean squat.  experiential knowledge is limited.10:16
johndarkhorsesampan: the thing about automatix is that its effects are not instantaneous, so "it didnt hurt my machine at all" fits at the time10:17
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johndarkhorsesampan: automatix introduces unofficial sources into your sources.list and your machine WILL grind to a halt10:17
sampanjohndarkhorse  i'm not disputing you.  i don't know what you're going on about.   my statement was intended to say that experiential knowledge (my own above, about winxp) is limited.  what more do want me to say?10:18
johndarkhorsesampan: nah, it's all good10:18
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servjewok, i've got a NTFS drive in a computer running kubuntu. its a second drive, main one is all linux. i want to format it in whatever linux uses. how do i do that ?10:21
viviersfja gebeur nie baie met my nie10:24
viviersfso was nogals kwaai10:24
viviersfhaha10:24
viviersfwtf10:24
viviersfstupid xchat10:24
johndarkhorseservjew: use gparted10:24
viviersfqtparted10:25
viviersfhe using kde10:25
viviersfso he can use kde tool :)10:25
servjewusing kubuntu with gnome, actually.. and blackbox10:26
servjewbut i have kde installed10:26
johndarkhorseeither one will work10:27
servjewi type that in a console ?10:28
servjewgparted ?10:28
johndarkhorseservjew: yes that's fine10:29
servjewcommand not found10:29
johndarkhorseservjew: try qtparted10:30
servjewcommand not found10:30
servjewi am running a default kubuntu breezy install + a few desktop environments10:30
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johndarkhorseservjew: then 'sudo apt-get install qtparted"10:31
servjewok10:31
servjewshould i mount this drive somehow, i just stuck it in there.10:32
servjewqtparted reports only one10:33
johndarkhorseservjew: that is odd. did you run "kdesu qtparted" from the console ?10:33
servjewno10:34
servjewtrying10:34
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servjewi think its got it now10:34
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servjewhm... in what dir do i find other drives ?10:38
johndarkhorseservjew: if your drive is ok, it should show up in the screen of qtparted10:38
johndarkhorseif it doesnt, close it up and i'll tell you something else you can try10:39
servjewyep it showed up and i clicked on format as ext3 it took like 2 seconds10:39
servjewso i guess it worked10:39
johndarkhorsedid you hit 'apply' ?10:39
servjewbut im  not too sure still how and where my files are10:39
servjewapply? i dunno, haha lemme see.10:39
servjewok its working10:40
servjewdoing something, at the leaast :)10:41
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servjewok10:41
johndarkhorseas long as there's no smoke, it's all good10:41
servjewit mentions a hell of a lot of used space10:41
servjewcould it have kept all the files that were on it ?10:41
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johndarkhorsedoubtful, converting from ntfs > ext3 is quite destructive10:42
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servjewwhats with the two gigs of reported used space ?10:43
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servjewand it keeps telling me that i should have unmounted all drive or something10:45
ssdohello i am in ubuntu...how can i install  kubuntu?10:45
robotgeekssdo: install the package "kubuntu-desktop"10:45
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ssdoi wish to retain gdm the ubuntu usplash and not kdm nor the kubuntu usplash10:46
johndarkhorsessdo: that is fine, you can do that10:46
robotgeekssdo: hmm, gdm you can. i dunno how to do the ubuntu splash, but i'm sure others know10:46
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ssdojohndarkhorse: if i do kubuntu-desktop im afraid i am killing my gnome ubuntu...if i do kde only i might miss the kubuntu packages..10:48
ssdoi want kubuntu to appear as one of the sessions in my gdm10:48
johndarkhorsessdo: you'll be fine, i run x/k/ubuntu and still have my gdm10:48
servjewso, uuhm, how do i find local hard drives and files not in my home dir, and where do i find files that are in shared folders on a windows or linux machine on the network here ?10:49
ssdojohndarkhorse: the usplash? do i still keep my ubuntu usplash?10:49
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johndarkhorseubotu: tell servjew about cli10:52
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servjewk i will check those out10:53
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_patrickIs there a way to install the new firefox 1.5 instead of the old one on the repository?10:54
johndarkhorse!firefox1510:55
ubotusomebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org10:55
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kBCCYello :)10:56
johndarkhorsessdo: the usplash is trivial to make into what you like10:57
kBCCYesterday I packaged kFTPGrabber 0.7 for my Ubuntu machine and this morning I saw it was in the kubuntu suggested Packages list.10:57
johndarkhorsekBCC: did you package according to the guidelines?10:58
kBCCThat's sortof my question :)10:58
kBCCHow can I check it, where should I submit it, who should test it?10:58
johndarkhorsehttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide  kBCC10:58
johndarkhorsekBCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonPackagingMistakes/ChangingTheOrigTarball10:59
ssdothanks guys.10:59
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johndarkhorsekBCC: after you get it to debian standards for a deb, go here and upload it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU10:59
johndarkhorsekBCC: however i'd hang out in #ubuntu-motu also11:00
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kBCCSorry about that..11:02
kBCCIt's my first package so there's bound to be something wrong with it :)11:03
kBCCI'll check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU11:03
robotgeekkBCC: check with lintian11:03
johndarkhorsekBCC: check out the kubuntupackageing page11:04
robotgeekhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources11:04
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kBCCAnd what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU ?11:08
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johndarkhorsekBCC: gah! sorry, thats the one i meant to send11:09
johndarkhorsei'm tired and in the office kBCC11:10
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kBCCI'm supposed to be getting to work ;)11:15
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johndarkhorsekBCC: then go, the code will be here when you return11:16
vvatsahi#11:16
kBCCI'll do some reading before I'll do anything else :) Thanks.. I'll be back :)11:18
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orion_fr_24how can I add virtual folder to proftpd11:27
C2ODehow to restore Uslash after compiling a vanilla kernel 2.6.15-1?11:28
owneryou have to apply the bootsplash patch11:30
ownerbefore you compile it11:30
ownerc2ode check out this patch set http://iphitus.loudas.com/archck.php11:31
C2ODeowner: i check the url; thanks11:31
C2ODebootspalsh or fbspalsh?11:33
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ownerfbsplash worked for me11:33
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owneri still see the kubuntu splash when starting up11:33
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C2ODek11:33
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dbglt'ello11:37
dbgltok11:37
orion_fr_24how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???11:37
dbgltWhat do I need to install to be able to build c/c++ packages from scratch?11:37
dbgltis there a development-tools package?11:37
ownerbuild essential11:37
dbgltI need to compile my modem drivers11:37
dbgltso I can get onto the net on my kubuntu box :)11:38
dbgltowner, is that located on the install cd?11:38
orion_fr_24how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???11:38
dbgltowner, or must I download it seperately?11:38
ownernot sure11:40
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dbglthrmm11:41
dbgltit is a package in "universe"11:41
dbgltcan I download that now and install it later?11:41
dbglt(I'm on my windows box now)11:41
dbgltnot too sure how the package management system works11:41
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dbgltanyone?11:43
owneryou can download it and install later11:43
ownerbut it might be on the cd11:43
dbglteciadsl driver11:43
dbgltit isn't11:43
dbgltusually11:43
dbglthow do I download a package from packages.ubuntu.com?11:44
dbglthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl11:44
dbgltI found it11:44
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ownerjust click under i38611:46
owneror amd64 if you are using 64bit version11:46
dbgltoh11:46
dbglt:)11:46
dbgltowner, thanks11:46
ownernp11:47
dbgltthen, do I need to add it to a repository? Or how do I go about properly installing it?11:47
dbgltjust use dpkg?11:47
johndarkhorsedbglt: if you direct d/l, use dpkg -i11:48
johndarkhorsedbglt: better to use apt-get11:48
dbgltI'm not connected to the net on that box11:48
dbgltI will be, once I install this package :)11:48
johndarkhorsedbglt: then make sure you have all the depends11:48
dbgltI'm not sure11:49
dbgltdoes base come with pppoe and pppd?11:49
dbglthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl11:49
dbgltthat is the package11:49
dbglt*base install11:49
dbgltthey seem like pretty standard prereqs11:51
dbglthere's to hoping11:51
dbglthopefully be back soon11:51
dbglt:)11:51
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Finite9hi all!  Im trying to find an installation guide for Kubuntu but can only find docs. on using kubuntu, not installing it.  Can anyone give me some pointers?  Specifically, I need dual boot, but during install, grub wont install on my /boot partition11:54
ownerinstall it to mbr finite11:56
vvatsaFinite9: MBR is your man11:56
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psyloxsalut11:57
Finite9i dont want to overwrite WinXP mbr, because i want to be able to eventually remove kubuntu and in that case I will need ntldr intact.  I thought I could install grub on /boot (4th HDD partition) then copy file to C: drive and edit boot.ini11:58
johndarkhorseFinite9: ntldr is not in your /mbr11:58
Finite9but grub gives major error and wont install to /dev/hda411:58
johndarkhorseFinite9: you may fdisk /mbr and return to a windows-only system any time you wish11:58
mr-russFinite9: that will mean you need to do some complicated funness to get ntloader to boot your linux for you.11:58
ownerthere is a free program called fixmbr11:59
psyloxanybody ar french here??11:59
Tm_Tor you can use grub to boot windows11:59
owneri will post the link11:59
ownerhttp://www.ambience.sk/fdisk-master-boot-record-windows-linux-lilo-fixmbr.php11:59
ownerhttp://www.ambience.sk/experiments/MbrFix.exe11:59
mr-russbye default ubuntu will detect xp and add a grub entry for it.11:59
ownerit can restore windows xp mbr within windows11:59
johndarkhorse!fr11:59
Tm_Tyes11:59
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais11:59
ownerive used it many times11:59
psyloxok merci11:59
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Finite9yeah, I read that if I boot into recovery console off windows media CD then type FIXMBR all will be well, but i dont really trust it to work :)12:00
owneruse mbrfix then12:00
ownerit will work12:00
Finite9owner: thanks for the link12:00
ownernp12:00
johndarkhorseFinite9: that will work, although i prefer a boot floppy from bootdisk.com with freedos fdisk12:01
Finite9i dont have a floopy with my laptop :/ makes boot disks a bit tough to work12:01
Finite9ahem.  floppy12:02
johndarkhorseFinite9: the cd will work, i just am an old school kinda guy12:03
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Finite9thanks for the info, all!  I have nearly zero exp. with *nix, and i have a family laptop that I do not want mess up, so i didnt really want to install grub on windows partition12:06
Finite9but if i do, will win XP boot as normal from Grub ?12:06
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ownerit should add it to the grub menu12:09
vvatsaFinite9: yep, winXP will boot from grub no prob.12:09
vvatsathats the way I have it with my work laptop12:10
vvatsaubuntu installer detected my winXP and added an entry for it.12:10
vvatsain grub12:10
Finite9thanks guys--will give it another try tonight!12:11
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ilba7r!goobuntu12:40
ubotuilba7r: No idea12:40
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C2ODeerror on configure: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. any ideas?01:01
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gnumdkC2ODe: apt-get install libc6-dev ?01:06
C2ODegnumdk: already installed01:07
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gnumdkhmmm01:09
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ilba7rC2ODe, are you sure it is not just a plain case where you are trying to write to a dir/file that you do not have write permission ofr01:11
C2ODei'm root01:12
cyanid3I'm having issues starting the ssh deamon for the first time01:12
cyanid3i installed it, and then tried to start it (sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start) and it just says failed01:13
cyanid3am i missing something?01:14
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gnumdkC2ODe: look at config.log01:18
BlejdfistHas anyone gotten KMail to work with S/MIME-certificates? Everything seems fine for me except when i try to sign a message i get "Signing failed: General error"01:18
C2ODegnumdg: where is? in /var/log?01:22
hatake_kakashiC2ODe: find / -name config.log01:23
hatake_kakashior locate01:23
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cyanid3i got it figured out01:25
SkrotWhich CPU frequency daemon (dynamical frequencyadjustments based on load) is the best for a Intel Celeron laptop?01:25
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_erikhello kubuntu peepz01:27
_erikcan anyone here help me? im having trouble with my floppy drive01:27
hatake_kakashias in?01:27
_eriki cant save files on my floppy01:28
_erikit says access denied01:28
C2ODehatake_kakashi & gnumdk: it needs klcc; what is?01:28
hatake_kakashi_erik: you need to set the uid and gid to give yourself access, or be in a certain group to access it or maybe you mount it as read only01:28
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_eriki already tried this at the konsole: sudo mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy01:29
_erikand i checked everything there is to check at the user manager01:29
hatake_kakashiC2ODe: I didn't see what was the question, I saw that gnumdk suggested to look at the config.log file and you asked where, I suggested programs to locate it01:29
hatake_kakashi_erik: and does the mount say that the floppy disk is mounted as rw?01:30
_erikyes01:30
_erikbut when i try to access at the gui01:30
ZhiChiangHi, guys, I need help on my ubuntu/kubuntu.. I encounter error upon booting the OS... error msg at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751501:30
_erikit says access denied01:30
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ZhiChianghelp pls :) thanks01:30
C2ODehatake_kakashi: the config.log say: klcc: command not found01:31
hatake_kakashi_erik: either your login does not have enough permission, or you need to set the mount options for floppy disk, such as adding uid=65534,gid=65534 *example only*01:31
hatake_kakashiC2ODe: klcc? wait, what program is this for?01:31
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_erik<hatake_kakashi> how do i set the mount option, how will i know what uid or gid to use?01:32
hatake_kakashi_erik: check your uid and gid by doing 'id' and try appending that into the /etc/fstab file01:33
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_erikwhat do you mean?01:33
hatake_kakashitype 'id' in the console window01:33
C2ODehatake_kakashi: the prog is splashutils: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/01:33
gnumdkC2ODe: can you paste your config.log http://rafb.net/paste/ ?01:34
_erik<hatake_kakashi> my gid and uid are both 100001:34
_erik<hatake_kakashi> what shall i do now?01:34
hatake_kakashiyou will see uid=(blah) gid=(blah) .. now open /etc/fstab file with your favourite editor (you need to be root to edit that file) and append that beside default.. so it goes like default,uid=1000,gid=1000 for example01:34
C2ODehttp://rafb.net/paste/results/FVPVpi20.html01:35
_eriki dont see defailt01:35
_erik<hatake_kakashi> i dont see default01:35
_erik# <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>01:35
_erikproc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       001:35
_erik/dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       101:36
hatake_kakashierr01:36
_erik/dev/hda6       /home           ext3    defaults        0       201:36
_erik/dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       001:36
_erik/dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       001:36
_erik/dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       001:36
C2ODegnumdk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FVPVpi20.html01:36
gnumdkC2ODe: go on #gentoo to have anwser ;)01:36
hatake_kakashiwell, see rw,user,noauto? add to the end of it rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=100001:36
robotgeek_erik: please don't paste here :)01:37
C2ODegnumdk: i can make a better question... the initial prob is that: when i recompile the kernel (2.6.15-1) i lost my usplash boot loading sceen... how to restore... someone tell me to install splashutils that is a gentoo package...01:38
nalioth_erik: do you read the /topic when you enter irc channels?01:38
_erik<hatake_kakashi> hey itts workin now01:38
_erik<nalioth> no... y???????01:38
_erik<hatake_kakashi> ur angel thank you01:38
_erik<hatake_kakashi> ur an el thank you01:39
nalioth_erik: use a pastebin for pasting please. pasting into channels is rude01:39
_erik<nalioth> how do i do that?01:39
nalioth_erik: the /topic in irc channels is full of information that will only benefit you01:39
nalioth_erik: type /topic <enter>01:39
_erik<nalioth> my apologies... im new here, im new to kubuntu, im new to everything here01:40
nalioth_erik: ah, then the /topic is a good first thing to learn01:40
naliothmost every irc channel has a /topic and all are good to read01:40
_erik<nalioth> again, my apologies... it wont happen again01:41
_erik:) peace dude01:41
gnumdkC2ODe: no01:51
gnumdkC2ODe: you need to activate framebuffer interface in your kernel01:51
gnumdkC2ODe: and ubuntu package for splashsceen is usplash01:52
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ZhiChiangHi guys, I encounter problem on boothing my Ubuntu/Kubuntu, The error msg is at pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751501:53
ZhiChianghope you could help me.01:53
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gnumdkZhiChiang: fresh install?01:54
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C2ODegnumdk: the framebuffer is activated and before the kernel reconfiguration usplash is up and running01:55
gnumdkC2ODe: hmm01:56
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gnumdkC2ODe: can you paste your .config and /boot/grub/menu.lst somewhere?01:58
ZhiChianggnumdk: nopes I have been using kubuntu for a month now.. I just burn some dvd, and turn off my laptop... then after 30mins I thought of checking my mails,,, now it didnt boot :(01:58
gnumdkZhiChiang: is hda2 your root partition?01:59
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ZhiChianggnumdk: im not sure.. how can I check that?01:59
gnumdkZhiChiang: have you windows on this laptop?02:00
C2ODegnumdk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WpnJf976.html02:00
ZhiChiangyes... I dual boot with windows xp for security purposes.. like this.. :)02:00
C2ODegnumdk: if you want i can send u my actual kernel conf02:01
gnumdkC2ODe: hare http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/02:01
gnumdkhere02:01
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ZhiChiangany?02:02
gnumdkZhiChiang: do you remember what file system you are using with linux?02:02
C2ODegnumdk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751702:02
ZhiChianggnumdk: ext3 on linux... ntfs on windows, fat32 on data partions02:03
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ZhiChiangi have partition magic... i will check02:03
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gnumdkZhiChiang: it seems to be a problem with your linux partition02:04
ZhiChianggnumdk: I still can see my ext3 partitions02:05
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gnumdkC2ODe: is it official ubuntu kernel?02:05
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ZhiChianggnumdk: and i can see the disk space used.. and remaining.02:05
jerrisdoes anybody have any idea on how to reset the video drivers?02:05
C2ODegnumdk: not original.. original kernel stop at 2.6.1002:06
gnumdkZhiChiang: what is the partition position?02:06
C2ODegnumdk: it's an original kernel from kernel.org :)02:06
gnumdkC2ODe: can i see your .config02:06
C2ODegnumdk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751802:07
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C2ODegnumdk: my config is: new kernel with the original kubuntu kernel config; i only change the processor type from 386 to pentium M :)02:08
C2ODegnumdk: and with the old kernel (same conf as new) the usplash works fine02:09
ZhiChianggnumdl: ntfs, ext3, ext3, extended, swap, fat3202:09
C2ODegnumdk the reason for my update is: my laptop had a bug with old kernel :(02:09
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gnumdkC2ODe: CONFIG_FB_VGA16=y, CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y , it's  a probleme with your initrd but i don't use this and i can't help you, put this to yes and it will cork02:10
gnumdkwork02:10
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ZhiChiangbrb02:11
gnumdkC2ODe: do you have a live cd( knoppix)02:11
gnumdk?02:11
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gnumdkarfh02:11
gnumdkok02:11
gnumdkhe is away02:11
gnumdkC2ODe: last message was not for you ;)02:11
C2ODegnumdk: ok, i'll try recompiling the kernel putting .CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE from module to static. and let u know. thanks a lot02:12
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sorush20some one help please I have these installed and here is the error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/518953, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751902:17
orion_fr_24how can i check kde version02:17
orion_fr_24?02:17
gnumdkkde-config --version02:18
orion_fr_24thx02:18
orion_fr_24gnumdk: i am on kde 3.4.302:18
orion_fr_24gnumdk: i d like KDE 3.502:19
orion_fr_24gnumdk: how can i update ?02:19
robotgeeksorush20: maybe libqt3-mt-dev02:19
robotgeeksorush20: you do seem to have that installed though02:20
gnumdkorion_fr_24: breezy?02:20
robotgeeksorush20: what are you trying to build?02:20
orion_fr_24gnumdk: yep02:21
gnumdkhttp://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php02:21
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok but it says  gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found02:22
gnumdkit's ok02:22
gnumdkyou need to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to /etc/apt/sources.list02:22
gnumdkand run apt-get dist-upgrade02:23
orion_fr_24gnumdk: will it update to dapper ?02:23
orion_fr_24gnumdk: i just want update KDE not to dapper02:23
orion_fr_24gnumdk: is it possible02:23
gnumdkno, it's package for breezy02:23
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok02:24
orion_fr_24gnumdk: lemme try02:24
sorush20robotgeek: knights02:24
robotgeeksorush20: is that in the repos?02:24
orion_fr_24gnumdk: i ve got breezy main restricted will it be enough ??02:25
sorush20guys will its is but just trying to build form source pluse the fact that I have this error I might not be able to build form source, robotgeek02:25
sorush20also is kubuntu helping sourceinstall project ?02:25
robotgeeksorush20: sudo apt-get build-dep knights02:25
orion_fr_24gnumdk: or do i need to add brezy main without restricted02:25
sorush20robotgeek: ...&& sudo apt-get install knights?02:26
robotgeeksorush20: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev libqt3-compat-headers02:26
robotgeeksorush20: then build as usual, all it does is install the dependencies for you02:26
robotgeeksorush20: or you can install the one in the repos the usual way :)02:27
sorush20robotgeek: I have both of those packages..02:27
sorush20anyone else here use knights?02:28
gnumdkorion_fr_24: you just need to add this  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main02:28
gnumdkorion_fr_24: don't change anything else02:28
sorush20just wanted to find out how to add engins?02:28
orion_fr_24gnumdk: even if if I already have it but restricted ?02:28
robotgeeksorush20: okay, maybe try the build-dep command02:28
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gnumdkorion_fr_24: how can you already have it?02:31
gnumdkorion_fr_24: there is no restricted module for kde3502:31
orion_fr_24gnumdk: I add it manually maybe02:31
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sorush20I have gnome and kde installed but there seemes to be prolems with refreshing the kde menus? its not happening when I install a program, but this is not the case if the computer has only kubuntu install from fresh any ideas?02:31
orion_fr_24gnumdk: anyway it seems to be updating a lot of KDE stuff so i think it s fine02:32
orion_fr_24gnumdk: thankx for your help02:32
orion_fr_24gnumdk: would you advise to relaunch X or reboot ?02:33
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hubbadubhas anyone gotten Alpha Centauri to work in Cedega?02:33
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naliothorion_fr_24: relaunch X02:34
gnumdkorion_fr_24: logout and login02:34
orion_fr_24nalioth: thx02:34
MrRioive changed my gtk theme in a kde control panel, and now i cant change it using gnome-theme-manager02:34
MrRioany ideas?02:34
orion_fr_24gnumdk: or ctrl - alt - bakspace ?02:34
gnumdkorion_fr_24: logout02:34
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok02:34
naliothrobotgeek: yes ctrl-alt-bksp02:35
naliothloggin out and in won't restart the xserver02:35
orion_fr_24nalioth: well i think it s better yes02:35
orion_fr_24nalioth: i do agree02:35
orion_fr_24There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.02:36
orion_fr_24from adep updater02:36
orion_fr_24??02:36
orion_fr_24sounds bad02:36
naliothorion_fr_24: are you running dapper?02:36
orion_fr_24nalioth: no breezy02:36
gnumdkorion_fr_24: apt-get -f install02:36
gnumdkorion_fr_24: use commande line02:36
gnumdkadept sux02:37
orion_fr_24ok02:37
orion_fr_24nalioth: any advice ?02:37
gnumdkadept is cool for adding soft, not for upgrade kde ;)02:37
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok so what should i do now ? i just ran apt-get -f install just ran02:38
gnumdkapt-get dist-upgrade02:38
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok it running now02:38
orion_fr_24gnumdk: i ll keep you updates02:39
orion_fr_24updated02:39
naliothorion_fr_24: use synaptic02:39
orion_fr_24nalioth: synaptic is for gnome02:39
naliothorion_fr_24: but it works better than adept02:39
orion_fr_24nalioth: dont wanna install non KDE apps02:39
orion_fr_24nalioth: really ?02:40
naliothorion_fr_24: then use konsole apt-get02:40
orion_fr_24nalioth: ok i ll do that02:40
orion_fr_24 /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb02:40
orion_fr_24E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)02:40
naliothadept is rather new on the scene and will need many revisions before it approaches the usability of synaptic02:40
gnumdkorion_fr_24: apt-get -f install02:41
orion_fr_24gnumdk: agin ????02:41
naliothorion_fr_24: when you get errors like that, in a konsole manually install that file with dpkg02:41
gnumdkorion_fr_24: yes ;)02:41
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok02:41
naliothorion_fr_24: then you will get a detailed error msg instead of a generic one02:41
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok done02:42
gnumdkapt-get dist-upgrade :)02:42
orion_fr_24gnumdk: now ?02:42
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok02:42
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orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok no erroirs this time02:42
orion_fr_24will restart X and come back to you02:42
orion_fr_24gnumdk: ok ?02:42
gnumdkok02:42
orion_fr_24gnumdk: cool02:43
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orion_fr_24well it seems to work fine02:46
orion_fr_24gnumdk: thx a bunch02:46
pulchiI have a schoolwork :P I need a linux/unix to install and it has to fit to one CD, 700MB. As I understand kubuntu is just ~625? am I right?02:47
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robotgeekpulchi: yes, it will fit on one cd02:50
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pulchirobotgeek: thanks :) is it easy to install? never used linux before02:50
ccc_pulchi: it's very easy02:51
robotgeekpulchi: yes, it is very easy to install.02:51
robotgeekpulchi: it will even detect windows if it is installed :)02:51
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pulchinice :D but I thinks we are having formatted disk's with nothing on it at all :)02:52
robotgeekthen it's very easy pulchi02:53
pulchiokey, thats nice. thanks02:53
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sweet_katehow do i extract a rar archive?02:57
arafatsweet_kate: unrar x <archive>02:58
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visik7hi03:00
visik7how can I enable preview of video in konqueror ?03:00
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vvatsahey guys, does any one know which repos. do I need for lame03:10
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naliothvvatsa: enable universe and multiverse and don't ask any more questions like that03:10
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vvatsanalioth: I have them enabled, I won't ask in the future03:11
naliothvvatsa: then you have lame at your beck and call03:12
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triodehello I'm trying to setup a wireless pcmcia card (NETGEAR WG511), and can't get it working, can anybody help me please?03:22
robotgeektriode, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards03:22
robotgeekwhat does that page say?03:22
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robotgeektriode: also look at wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs , i believe there is a page on that particular card03:23
trioderobotgeek: thanks, I'm checking it out right now03:24
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trioderobotgeek: it says that it has support out of the box, but it didn't work for me, I have set up a few things with ndiswrapper, and maybe I should undo that and try to make ubuntu (using kubuntu) recognoise it.... what do you think?03:26
robotgeektriode: i think there are a couple of versions of the card floating around03:27
triodei have v103:27
robotgeektriode: which chipset?03:28
triodei dont know, how can i find out?03:29
robotgeektriode: lspci -v | less03:31
triodei got  "network controller: intersil corporation intersil isl3890 prism gt prism duet rev01"03:31
triodesubsystem netgear: unknown device 480003:31
triodeflags: bus master, medium  devsel, latency 80, irq 903:32
robotgeektriode: okay, enuf03:32
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triodeok :)03:32
robotgeeki think you have a prism chipset, but i think yours might be "special" card03:32
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robotgeektriode: can you paste the contents of "lsmod" to the pastebin (/topic)03:33
endo602my desktop stallss randomly03:34
triodehow can I use pastebin?03:35
endo602anyone know what is up with it?03:35
robotgeektriode: just paste in your text on the website, and give me the url03:35
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triodeok03:38
trioderobotgeek: this will take 1 minute, i'm using two computers (one with the problem, one I'm typing with)03:39
robotgeektriode: okay, just look for prism03:39
triodeoh ok03:39
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setuidAnyone know how to get kde4 in Breezy?03:41
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setuidLatest KDE in Breezy is 3.4.303:42
trioderobotgeek: I got it03:42
setuidWhich is pretty old now03:42
robotgeektriode: then you should be able to connect from cli/kwifimanager03:42
triodeit has a line that says "prism54     47752      0"03:42
robotgeektriode, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto03:42
triode robotgeek: when I type "iwconfig" i get one "eth1" with wireless extensions03:43
triodebut it says "NOT READY!" next to all the rest of the information03:44
robotgeektriode: hmm, no clue. try with the ndiswrapper card (some prism cards have a known problem)03:44
robotgeekthey did something funky with the chipset03:44
setuidAnyone?03:44
trioderobotgeek: at one point i got the leds to light up (in one of my attempts for ndiswrapper)... but I have undone all changes03:45
trioderobotgeek: kwifimanager loads, but finds no networks03:45
robotgeektriode: if iwconfig cribs, you have a problem03:45
trioderobotgeek: so I should try with ndiswrapper then?03:46
robotgeektriode: yes03:47
trioderobotgeek: does it matter that the wireless card is recognized as "eth1"?03:47
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robotgeektriode: nope03:48
trioderobotgeek: should I just change where ndiswrapper howto says "wlan0" with "eth1"?03:49
robotgeektriode: it may change after you load ndiswrapper, gimme a minute03:50
robotgeekyou did say version 1?03:50
triodeyes03:50
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robotgeektriode: okay, try to remove and plug your card in. it should work correctly automatically03:56
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trioderobotgeek: ok, hold on03:58
triodeI just did a quick ndiswrapper while I was waiting... and now after rebooting I get both leds ON!03:59
triodebut I get nothing from kwifimanager03:59
robotgeektriode: what does iwconfig say?04:00
triodethat there are no cards with wireless extensions04:00
triodeand eth1 is listed04:00
triodeweird thing is both LEDs are solid on.04:00
triodeI'll undo the ndiswrapper thing, since it should work without it, right?04:01
trioderobotgeek: will just commenting the ndiswrapper line in the /etc/modules file be enough or must I restore the /etc/modules/network/interfaces as well?04:02
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robotgeektriode: yes04:03
robotgeektriode: just the line in /etc/modules is enuf04:03
triodeok, I just commented the /etc/modules line... restarting04:03
triodeit's took quite a while in the "setting up network interfaces" part of the boot04:05
robotgeektriode: hmm, i'll wait04:06
trioderobotgeek: I removed ndiswrapper, IWCONFIG says eth1 has wireless extensions04:06
robotgeektriode: good04:07
trioderobotgeek: kwifimanager is next, right?04:07
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SkrotHi, when playing a wmv stream with mplayer I get a lot of:04:08
SkrotIngen ordinre forelesninger vren 2006, kun nettbasert.04:08
Skroterr04:08
Skrot"alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.063 msecs. resetting stream5.1% 28 0 25%"04:08
SkrotIs there something to do about that?04:08
trioderobotgeek: can't find any networks04:08
robotgeektriode: iwlist eth1 scan04:08
trioderobotgeek: "no scan results"04:09
triodeone of the LEDs on the card started blinking04:09
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robotgeektriode: sudo rmmod prism5404:10
trioderobotgeek: the information I added to /etc/network/interfaces is still present, should I remove it?04:10
robotgeektriode: no need04:10
triodeok04:10
triodeok, did the rmmod04:10
trioderobotgeek: now the card is no longer displayed (at all) in  IWCONFIG04:11
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robotgeektriode: good, now sudo modprobe prism5404:12
trioderobotgeek: THAT DID IT!! I am connected!!!!04:13
robotgeektriode: sweet04:13
trioderobotgeek: it seems that it picked up the information from /etc/network/interfaces because it already had the Key, channel, and ESSid in it04:13
trioderobotgeek: THANKS!!! I really appreciate it, just to wrap up: was "rmmod prism54" and "modprobe prism54" all I had to do from the start?04:14
trioderobotgeek: seeing that I didn't use the ndiswrapper in the end04:14
trioderobotgeek: wait, it's not working anymore :(04:15
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robotgeek_downtriode: hey, it's me again04:16
robotgeek_downtriode: my shell is down, so i had to do this :)04:17
trioderobotgeek_down: Kwifimanager doesn't settle for a channel frequency...04:17
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trioderobotgeek_down: kwifimanager is jumping from channel to channel04:17
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robotgeek_downtriode: hmm, there's another program called network-manager, it's way better than kwifimanager04:18
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triodetyping network-manager in a konsole didn't work, how do i run it?04:19
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robotgeek_downtriode: you need to install it first, sudo apt-get install network-manager04:20
triodeok I'll have to connect ethernet... give me 1 min04:20
robotgeek_downkk04:22
trioderobotgeek_down: I installed it04:24
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trioderobotgee1: how do I run it?04:25
robotgeek_downtriode: nm-applet --sm-disable04:26
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trioderobotgeek_down: it's running... making the green led on the card blink04:27
robotgeektriode: it should show up in your panel04:28
triode robotgeek: you're right... it says no network connection04:28
SkrotIf I want to do "modprobe ipw2200 led=1" instead of  "modprobe ipw2200" at boot, what do I do? :)04:29
robotgeektriode: click and connect04:29
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trioderobotgeek: now it says "preparing device eth1 for wireless network 'aaa' (aaa is network essid)04:31
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robotgeektriode: hmm, might take a while the first time04:33
trioderobotgeek: ok, I'll wait :)04:35
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robotgeektriode: done?04:36
trioderobotgeek: nope, keeps doing it04:36
jjesseargh i moved some folders around in kontact and now the filters don't move them correctly, how do i go about editing those filters?04:37
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hawkingI can't play movies with kaffeine well... it's just slow but with totem they work cool... what may be the problem?04:38
_trioderobotgeek: should I remove the changes I did to /etc/network/interfaces?04:39
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^rob^hello04:46
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trioderobotgeek: ?04:46
^rob^how's kde 3.5 (breezy) doing? -- stable // crash often ??04:46
robotgeektriode: no, no need for that, AFAIK. however, try it :)04:46
Tm_T^rob^: stable, atleast should be04:47
^rob^Tm_T: do you have it?04:47
Tm_T^rob^: I do have 3.5 since beta04:47
Tm_Tnow in dapper04:47
^rob^ah, what the heck - i'll give it an update ;) - if crashes - so be it!04:48
^rob^Tm_T: did you feel the difference - from 3.4 to 3.5 ? - run faster? - works better?04:48
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trioderobotgeek: rebooting is taking a very long time04:50
Tm_Tfaster and better imo04:50
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robotgeektriode: hmm, ctrl + c04:51
iantechow will my numlock automatically be on ? on start up....04:51
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kkathmaniantec: i noticed that ubuntu is one of the very few distros that dont do this and its irritating04:52
iantecreally?04:52
iantecarg tough luck04:52
robotgeekiantec: numlockx04:52
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iantecwhat does that mean?04:52
trioderobotgeek: I'm stuck in the kubuntu boot screen (the very first splash screen) the nic's led blinks for a while, then stops, then blinks for a while again04:52
kkathmanyep, SUSE, RH, Mandriva all turn the Num Lock on at boot04:53
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aeon17xWeird... I just installed kde-core, and I'm currently looking for the Volume Control applet, but I can't find it.04:55
trioderobotgeek: I tried rebooting without the wireless nic inserted and it's still taking a very long time "setting up network intervaces"04:55
triode(typo:"interfaces")04:55
robotgeektriode: i am all outta idea04:55
iantecdoes synaptic have the flash plugins for firefox? and does it have fire fox 1.5? in its repository?04:55
jorikhow can isee my total up/download kbps ?04:55
kkathmanaeon17x:  its under k-menu, multimedia on my box04:56
trioderobotgeek: hold on, It passed this time04:56
kkathmanaeon17x:  or alt-f2 and type kmix04:56
trioderobotgeek: inserting card04:56
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aeon17xkkathman: what if I want the panel applet that will show up as a tray icon?04:56
larsiviaeon17x: it does if you minimize it04:57
kkathmanaeon17x: kmix I believe minimizes to the tray04:57
trioderobotgeek: kwifi manager now shows me as conneted to my network...04:58
larsivimost KDE apps do if you let them ...04:58
aeon17xOh, I'm guessing I don't have it because I only installed kde-core.04:58
trioderobotgeek: but I don't have a local ip04:58
aeon17xI should install the whole kubuntu package then.04:59
larsiviaeon17x: kubuntu-desktop04:59
kkathmanaeon17x: yes...you should do the entire kubuntu-desktop04:59
robotgeektriode: iwconfig, please05:00
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trioderobotgeek: eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID: "aaa" Nickname:"aaa"  (both essid and nickname are correct)05:01
nlindblad23GiB seeded!05:02
robotgeektriode: maybe you should check if your router is seeing you :)05:02
triodeMode: managed Frequency: 2.437 Accesspoint: 00:12:88:5B...etc05:02
nlindblad24GiB even05:02
trioderobotgeek: good idea05:02
trioderobotgeek: let me try that05:02
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iantecsudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run is this right? for the driver of my vid card05:05
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pixelfairywhats an easy way to edit the kde menus? (gui or command line)05:06
WarriorSlayerhy guys, i've installed today kubuntu 5.10 amd64 in my pc, and it stops when loading the hotplug subsystem05:06
pixelfairyWarriorSlayer: stops completely?05:06
WarriorSlayerpixelfairy yep05:06
pixelfairylike not for 5 seconds05:07
WarriorSlayernope05:07
WarriorSlayeri've waited for minutes05:07
trioderobotgeek: only 1 computer (this one) is seen by the AP05:07
andrzejj wont write program in pascal. how program j must use?05:07
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robotgeektriode: hmm, i dunno what's the issue. maybe ask in #ubuntu05:08
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eidolonhas anyone had problems with ssh forwards under kubuntu?  for soem reason mine have just plain stopped working through a few updates.05:08
trioderobotgeek: thanks... nm-applet keeps 'preparing device' :(05:10
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paineshi05:12
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painesfor some reason kmail isn't filtering any spam mails. spamassassin is installed and activated and running. but nothings is filtered.05:14
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grunkhi05:17
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eidolonis anyone having these problems iwth ssh port forwardung on Dapper?05:21
eidolonor is ayone doing it, and it works?05:21
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eidolonokay, this is a fault in Kubuntu dapper.05:25
eidolonwhere do i report bugs?05:25
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kkathmaneidolon: https://launchpad.net/malone05:29
nlindbladeidolon: please submit as much details as possible05:29
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eidoloni'm looking in bugzilla atm regarding open bugs.05:30
eidolonthere's some commentary about this.05:30
WarriorSlayerhy guys, i discovered my problem05:30
WarriorSlayermy kubuntu is loading the capture driver module05:30
WarriorSlayerand it's crashing05:30
eidoloni'm not 100% sure this is it directly, because my interfaces file looks correct.05:30
WarriorSlayerhas any way to boot from the kubuntu cd to my partition to comment this module?05:31
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eidolonhttp://pastebin.com/51920805:34
eidolonthat's my interfaces file.  any reason lo wouldn't go active?05:34
eidolonon boot?05:34
eidolonumm, the launchpad.net site does not hava  distribution for 'Kubuntu'05:36
eidolonshould i juse use Ubuntu?05:36
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eightieskhey05:37
nlindbladeidolon: they share the same base system05:37
eightiesk!limewire05:37
nlindbladeidolon: most of their bug-reportings and translations are intergrated05:37
ubotuI guess limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.05:37
eidolonok05:38
ClayGany ideas why gnome might not be saving my settings? I installed from the "net install/minimal" and selected x and gnome and it works fine but does not save the changes ive made05:39
ClayGand in the begginning it tells me that a few applets have crashed do i want to restart them05:39
eightieskhow do i make my clock am/pm format?05:39
eightiesk?05:40
WarriorSlayerhey ppl how i boot my kubuntu partition from the install cd?05:42
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: what's the problem that you are trying to fix?05:43
seashell11EightiesK: right click clock >date and time format > Time & Dates tab > change time format to PH:MM:SS AMPM05:43
WarriorSlayerJohnFlux editing the rc.modules05:43
WarriorSlayerto disable the capture device05:44
eightieskand wqho does it keep reseting its self to gmt?05:44
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: boot the install cd, then switch to a console and mount the partition05:44
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: do you know how to do that?05:44
nlindbladseashell11: !05:44
WarriorSlayerJohnFlux nope :/05:44
WarriorSlayerthe module of my capture device is making kubuntu crash in the boot05:45
seashell11nlindblad: hi! ;-)05:45
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: you have grub?05:45
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: probably you do.05:45
WarriorSlayerJohnFlux for sure05:45
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: boot the kernel with the option:  init=/bin/bash    at the end of it (edit the grub entry)05:46
JohnFluxthen linux will boot straight into bash instead of loading modules etc05:46
WarriorSlayercool05:46
JohnFluxdo: mount / -o remount,rw     to put the partition in write mode05:47
WarriorSlayeru mean when the cd asks for boot05:47
WarriorSlayeri place init=/bin/bash?05:47
JohnFluxno no, when you boot from the hard disk05:47
JohnFluxat the moment, when you boot from the hard disk, grub asks you what to boot05:47
JohnFluxyes?05:47
WarriorSlayeryep05:47
nlindbladseashell11: how are you?05:47
JohnFluxif you select the menu option, then press 'e', it will show you a 4 lines or so.  select the 'kernel ....'  line05:48
JohnFluxand press 'e'  again05:48
JohnFluxand go to the end of that line, and add on that init=/bin/bash    thing there05:48
JohnFluxthen escape, and press 'b' to boot05:48
seashell11nlindblad: just awesome, of course!! how about yourself?05:48
WarriorSlayercool05:48
WarriorSlayerthanks man gonna try this05:48
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: remember to mount / -o remount,rw05:49
nlindbladseashell11: well, it's cold outside05:49
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: when you want to reboot, you should mount / -o remount,ro05:49
nlindbladseashell11: and especially in the mornings05:49
nlindbladseashell11: and today I was waiting for the bus05:49
WarriorSlayerJohnFlux after the boot ends i place the mount thing?05:49
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: yes05:49
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: it will boot very quickly05:49
JohnFluxWarriorSlayer: a few seconds05:49
WarriorSlayerk05:49
WarriorSlayerthanks again man :] 05:50
JohnFluxit bypasses init05:50
JohnFluxbtw it bypasses login too, so no root password needed ;) :)05:50
nlindbladseashell11: but it never came05:50
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eightieskseashell11, iot is already set to that.05:50
JohnFluxuseful to remember if you don't know the password05:50
seashell11nlindblad: its like 26 degrees F here, and snowing like crazy05:50
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seashell11EightiesK: did you restart X since you changed it?05:50
kkathmanhowdy seashell11 :)05:51
eightieskit was already liek that.05:51
seashell11hi kkathman your still alive and kickin?05:51
nlindbladseashell11: I realized it wouldn't come, after 40 minutes05:51
eightieskseashell11,  it was already liek that.05:51
seashell11nlindblad: shoot that sucks!05:52
kkathmanseashell11: absolutely, were their reports otherwise?05:52
seashell11EightiesK: try restarting X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)05:52
seashell11kkathman: no :-P05:52
nlindbladseashell11: it totally ruined my day05:53
nlindbladseashell11: and I had just been awake for an hour05:53
orion_fr_24hi everybody I m looking for a news reader for nntp server any advice05:53
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seashell11I should say!! nlindblad that wouldn't put me in the best of moods05:53
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nlindbladseashell11: I still feel a little pissed05:54
seashell11nlindblad: I sure don't blame you, but hey where are you from?05:54
nlindbladseashell11: Sweden05:55
seashell11oh right you told me that05:55
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nlindbladseashell11: yeah05:55
seashell11nlindblad: I just couldn't remember if it was you for sure or not05:55
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eightieskit worked05:56
eightieskthanks05:56
eightiesk!realplayer05:56
ubotuI guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats05:56
seashell11EightiesK: no prob05:56
eightiesknow could u help me with a firefox error i get?05:56
seashell11what error?05:56
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eightieskjust a sec05:57
eightiesk!firefox1.505:57
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion05:57
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seashell11EightiesK: just for your information, you can also start a private chat with ubotu to ask him questions like that05:58
seashell11hey kkathman, where are you from?05:58
kkathmanseashell11: Texas05:59
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seashell11im from upstate ny :-) got some cousins living in Texas though, been through there a few times, what part of Texas?06:00
kkathmanseashell11:  Dallas area06:00
kkathmanI have some friends in NY as well, most are either in Syracuse/surrounding area, or at West Point06:01
seashell11yep, thats where my cousins live, somewhere right around dallas, that's kinda interestin06:01
eightieskseashell11, it reads eightiesk@ubuntu:~$ sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.tar.gz06:02
eightieskPassword:06:02
eightiesktar: firefox-1.5.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory06:02
eightiesktar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now06:02
eightiesktar: Child returned status 206:02
eightiesktar: Error exit delayed from previous errors06:02
seashell11I'm about 7 miles from syracuse right now06:02
seashell11EightiesK: did you cd into the directory where you downloaded the file to first?06:03
eightieskoh ok06:03
seashell11kkathman: I guess it is a small world!!! :-)06:03
kkathmanseashell11: indeed06:06
seashell11EightiesK:  and then you might have to put a ./ in front of the firefox-1.5.tar.gz (sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f ./firefox-1.5.tar.gz)06:06
kkathmaneightiesk:  please dont paste in the channel, use the pastebin, please06:06
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seashell11ubotu tell EightiesK about pastebin06:09
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eightieskhow do i install azurez?06:15
iantec hmmm how come my gaim has no sounds? the sounds are enabled and it is not in mute06:15
Riddelliantec: what's in /etc/libao.conf ?06:16
eightieskiantec,  mines the same way...06:17
iantecdefault_driver=esd06:18
Riddelliantec: change esd to alsa0906:19
iantecin libao?06:19
Riddellin /etc/libao.conf06:19
ianteccant save i dont have the access.06:19
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eightiesknor do i06:20
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Riddelliantec: what editor are you using?06:20
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eightieski'm using kate.06:20
ianteckate06:21
hawkingcan i read system mail with kmail?06:21
Riddelliantec: in konqueror right click and Actions->Edit as Root06:21
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dan_hi guys06:22
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iantecit said something that there was an error initiating the sound i thik so it went back to the null device?06:23
dan_whats with the silence?06:23
iantecnot sure but its kinda like that06:23
iantecwell...found a way to amke it sound06:24
iantecin preferences sound metheod i chose arts...06:24
iantecwould that matter? how come in libao it is in esd but when i choose esd in preference even the test button wont work only arts works06:25
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iantecok thanks for the help going to sleep now....perhaps tomorrow...i need to fix my sound driver when i play music its terrible...06:26
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hawkingfriends can someone do me a favor and paste his "ls /var/log/ output to somewhere? I accidently removed it and now I have some probs06:26
iantecthnx for the help06:26
eightieskcan u give me the file to edit to get sound in gaim ??06:26
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eightieskelectricity went out for a second.06:27
iantecactually i just went to preferences06:27
iantecthen to sounds, then sound method, scroll down choose arts06:27
iantecits not that good but at least it works for the mean time06:27
eightieskwhat file are u spose to edit?06:29
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eightiesk??06:29
eightieskiantec, what files were you spose to edit06:29
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iantecna got it back to default06:30
iantectry it06:30
iantecgood luck hopeit works...be going now good nyt everyone!06:31
eightiesk!gaim06:32
ubotuI guess gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/06:32
larsiviRiddell: kdesdk is broken too06:32
eightiesk!sound06:32
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary06:32
eightiesk!gaimsound06:33
ubotueightiesk: My cat's name is Mittens!06:33
eightiesk:-\06:33
eightieskne 1 here willing to help me?06:34
Riddelllarsivi: how so?06:34
larsiviit depends on kspy which depends on kdelibs4-dev06:35
Riddelleightiesk: /etc/libao.conf06:35
larsiviRiddell: In breezy, that is06:35
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kkathmanGreetings Riddell :)06:36
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ilba7ri am gona do a presentation on a datashow (projector) from my linux box. Do i need to install a program or make a configuration to direct the presentation to the data show or would it be done automatically06:38
Riddelllarsivi: KDE 3.5?06:38
larsiviRiddell: Yes, sorry06:38
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Riddelllarsivi: ok, I'll make sure that gets sorted for kde 3.5.1 this week06:38
larsiviRiddell: great :)06:38
eightieskRiddell, what do i need to edit to?06:39
Riddell17:19 < Riddell> iantec: change esd to alsa0906:40
Riddelleightiesk:  ^^06:40
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eightieskthanks the electric went out here.06:40
apokryphosRiddell: packs to test for 3.5.1?06:41
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apokryphos..or not yet?06:41
eightieskit should work now right?06:41
martis it just me, or is cups broken in Flight-3?06:41
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gentoohi leute, spricht hier jemand deutsch? hab gerad kubuntu installiert. wollte ein audiostreem aus dem internet abspielen ber amoroK aber er spielts nicht ab. er ldt immer bis 100 % u. fngt dann wieder bei 0 % an. Kennt jemand dieses problem?06:44
mart#kubuntu-de?06:44
kkathman!de06:44
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de06:44
gentoojoin #kubuntu-de06:44
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WarriorSlayerppl which file or line i have to comment in kubuntu to disable the hotplug subsystem load my bttv card?06:45
Riddellapokryphos: still building, maybe later06:45
apokryphossure, let me know whenever06:45
martCUPS in dapper, anyone? Dead or alive?06:46
gentoodanke, thank you06:46
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Riddellapokryphos: are you on dapper or breezy?06:46
Riddellmart: half alive06:46
martRiddell: half dead, here :(06:46
apokryphosRiddell: breezy on one (the one here), and dapper on another. Need stability here for various reasons; i.e. this one never closes ;)06:46
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cplusplushi06:48
cplusplusdrive can't be mounted. mount: only root can mount /dev/hda5 to /mnt/Daten06:49
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WarriorSlayerppl which file or line i have to comment in kubuntu to disable the hotplug subsystem load my bttv card?06:54
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hawkingdoes anyone know how to read system mail with kmail?06:55
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marthawking: Configure->Accounts->Receiving. Add. Local mailbox. Then the path to your mbox.06:57
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gerardocbcplusplus: well... there it is... only root can do that... sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/Daten06:58
cpluspluswdf?06:59
hawkingmart : thx06:59
cplusplusi want to mout the hda5 when i boot automatically!!06:59
cplusplusbut how can i login as root user?06:59
gerardocbDid you put the line on fstab already?06:59
seashell11mart: how do you know what the path to your local mailbox is?06:59
nlindbladgerardocb: correction, add in user to /etc/fstab and the mount would be possible without root permissions06:59
nlindbladgerardocb: user as in "user"06:59
cpluspluslike /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    user,noauto     0       0 ?06:59
nlindbladcplusplus: yeah07:00
martseashell11:  well, /var/mail/something might be a good place to try07:00
cplusplushm07:01
cpluspluswhats drwxr-xr-x ?07:01
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cpluspluspermission07:01
cpluspluschmod 777 ?07:01
gerardocb75507:01
martseashell11: depends how mail is set up on your system07:01
tidalwav1Hi, all...can anyone give me any clue about how to get the Kubuntu installer to recognize an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller?07:02
tidalwav1The installer crashes because it can't mount the CD drives.07:02
tidalwav1nobody? :(07:02
nlindbladhang on07:03
tidalwav1gladly07:03
cplusplusis sshd available for kubuntu?07:03
eightieski acidently set gaim buddy list to be 20 px tall instead of 200 in the window spicefix settings how do i mchange it cuz it closed everytime i open it.07:03
tidalwav1sshd is available--sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:03
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tidalwav1nlindblad: was that 'hang on' directed at me?07:05
mlehrerdoes kubuntu allow emacs key bindings in entry fields?  E.g. ctrl-a moves the cursor to the beginning of the line, ctrl-k deletes from the cursor to the end, ctrl-u deletes to the beginning07:05
nlindbladtidalwav1: yepp07:05
nlindbladtidalwav1: I've found a driver for it in a kernel patchset07:05
tidalwav1well how would I go about getting/using it?07:05
nlindbladdon't know for sure if that patch has been applied to the official kernel series07:05
cplusplusis sshd available for kubuntu?07:05
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nlindbladcplusplus: yes07:06
cpluspluswhere?07:06
tidalwav1cplusplus: see above07:06
nlindbladcplusplus: as stated a few lines up by tidalwav107:06
cplusplusapget07:06
cplusplus?07:06
mart[18:02]  <tidalwav1> sshd is available--sudo apt-get install openssh-server07:06
cplusplusthx07:06
seashell11mart: thanks! i got it working07:06
tidalwav1np :)07:06
tidalwav1so yeah, nlindblad...how/where do I use /find the driver :P07:06
nlindbladtidalwav1: the 2.6.10-ac2 kernel patchset had a driver for it07:06
martseashell11: cool07:07
nlindblad"o       IT8212 IDE support                              (Alan Cox)"07:07
marttidalwav1: are you using expert mode?07:07
nlindbladoops, wrong controller07:07
tidalwav1nope :P07:07
tidalwav1yeah, that is the wrong one07:07
tidalwav1IT8211 :P07:07
tidalwav1I'm trying to install dapper flight 3, if that helps at all07:07
nlindbladtidalwav1: apperantly IT8211 and IT8212 are the same07:08
tidalwav1okay, so because I'm stupid, could you explain how to get/use the driver in the installer?07:08
nlindbladtidalwav1: http://www.iteusa.com/pc/LinuxDriverSrc_it8212_092005-09.zip07:09
nlindbladBoth chips seem to be very close (but 8211 has'nt raid support), and they even share the same driver availabled on ite website07:10
tidalwav1that link gives me a 404 error07:10
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nlindbladtidalwav1: damn these old mailinglists07:11
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tidalwav1nlind: chat in dialog window?07:12
nlindbladhttp://metawire.org/~nlindblad/patches/add-support-for-it8212-ide-controllers.patch07:12
tidalwav1nlind: or not? :P07:12
nlindbladbest I could come up with07:12
tidalwav1so..how do I use that when installing?07:13
tidalwav1I don't have a clue :P07:13
vgei have somehow lost "audio icon" from my panel, the one that you can add or decrease master volume, how can i restore it?07:14
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_toniociao a tutti07:16
_tonioc'  qualcuno che pu aiutarmi a configurare la lettura degli mp3 con amaroK e Kubuntu 5.10?07:17
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cplusplushow can i install a driver form my hp printer?07:18
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_tonioma  il canale di ubuntu italia?07:18
_tonioc' nessuno?07:21
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_toniociao a tutti!07:23
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_toniogerardocb oggi stavo parlando con te?07:23
gerardocb_tonio, no07:24
cplusplushow can i change my ip adress at kubuntu?07:24
tidalwav1cplusplus, what do you mean?07:24
cplusplusi only know how to do it in gentoo;)07:24
_tonioma oggi c'eri anche tu?07:24
cplusplusi wanna change my ip adress at the kubutu pc07:24
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mlehrercplusplus: use the point and drool interface, there should be a System -> Administration -> Networking option07:25
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mlehrerglad to see you are abandoning gentoo07:25
cplusplussudo systemstettings?07:26
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cplusplusthere is no administration!07:26
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mlehrerwhat options do you have in the System menu?07:28
mlehrerbtw there is a kubuntu channel you can use07:29
WarriorSlayerppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?07:29
_toniogerardocb:posso disturbarti un attimo solo?07:29
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gerardocb_tonio, I don't speak italian07:29
gerardocb(actually, just a few words...)07:29
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cplusplusoh dcop communication error !?07:30
cplusplusi tried: kdesu systemsettings07:30
cplusplusand entered the passwd07:30
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phlewisgreetings07:33
WarriorSlayerppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?07:33
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phlewisI installed latestd kubuntu on a Dell laptop. Install went well. Only problem is the linksys pcmcia wireless networking is not working.07:35
pulverhi! just installed mplayer. whats the best way to install all different kinds of codecs?07:35
mlehreryou could start with w32codecs07:36
phlewispcmcia tab in control panel doesn't see anything in the pcmcia slot07:36
mlehrerxvid is important too, that might not be there by default07:36
phlewisbootup shows pcmcia module is loaded at startup07:37
phlewisanybody have any suggestions for getting the system to recognize this linksys pcmcia wireless card?07:38
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pulvermlehrer: can't find it in adept manager... did enable universe repo and added the line multiverse not sure if thats the right way to do it though07:39
mlehreryeah w32codecs was hard to track down for me, i had to do a google search for "w32codecs breezy" or something like that07:39
cplusplushow can i install a driver form my hp printer?07:40
pulvermlehrer: thanks07:40
cplusplushp officejet 561007:40
kobayazenpulver, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs I think you'll find what you want07:40
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phlewisit's a standard linksys wireless networking card07:43
WarriorSlayerppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?07:43
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pulverkobayazen: typing 'apt-get install w32codecs' says the package is not available.. going through /etc/apt/sources.list ... maybe i messed something up, first day using kubuntu its pretty cool though07:51
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seashell11ubotu tell pulver about w32codecs07:58
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seashell11pulver: read what ubotu sent you07:58
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pulverseashell11: thanks man08:12
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seashell11pulver: np :-)08:13
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TraumI just switched from Suse to Kubuntu.  Where do I find Gui for starting/stopping services like ftp, Samba?08:20
cplusplushowhow can i install a driver form my hp officejet 5610?08:21
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ownerdpes hp make linux drivers08:23
ownergoto their website08:23
cplusplusok08:23
cplusplusich hoff hp hat nen linux druckertreiber08:24
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cplusplusverdammt doch nit;-(08:25
cplusplusno.....shitt08:25
cplusplusthey doesnt have linux driver08:25
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luizi can't get my sound to work08:29
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TraumWieso wir mein "root password" nicht akzeptiert wenn ich es via GUI benutze, aber bei terminal login klappt es?08:31
PupenoLHow do I get my Kubuntu to mount the local NTFSs as word redeable ? only root can read it.08:32
Traumhow come my root password is not accepted via GUI, but it works when login via terminal?08:32
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luizHey, PupenoL, try to look for it at www.ubuntuguide.org it's for Hoary but works08:33
PupenoLthanks.08:33
luizI got the same problem a few months ago08:33
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luizI can't get my sound to work. Any ideas? (AD1888 + ALi M5455)08:34
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luizIt worked on Hoary pretty  fine, but doesn't work on breezy, and seems not to work here (dapper), too08:36
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paineshi08:37
luizhi08:37
triodei need help. on my other computer, I can't browse the web, but when booting the "sync to ubuntu clock" works08:37
painesmy kmail doesn't filter spam mail. spamassassin is installed and working08:37
triodeI have been trying to setup  a pcmcia wireless network card, but desisted, now I lost the WIRED connection. what can I do?08:38
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cplusplushm my amarok cant play mp3 files...didnt solve the problem08:44
cplusplusi istalled xine...08:44
painescplusplus: did you install libmad08:44
paineslibmad008:44
cplusplusno08:44
painestry that08:44
painesit is an mpeg lib08:44
cplusplusapget what?08:45
paineslibmad008:45
painesand restart amarok08:45
cplusplusapget -install lubmad ?08:45
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painesapt-get install libmad008:46
cplusplusnot found08:46
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cplusplusnetwork problem08:47
painesadd universe and multiverse repositories to your sources.list08:47
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flowershellow08:54
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_robinHi Ya, can ya guys help me? i needa get rid of the ubuntu packages on ma pc, i need the kubuntu packages, and the gnome apps and all lost, how to do that?08:56
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ccc_ubuntu packages = kubuntu packages08:57
_robinubuntu packages = synaptic, gcalc, xchat, ubuntu packages = adept, speedsomething, konversation08:58
_robinso tell me, how to get rid of those gnome packages? ;p08:58
cpluspluscan i start the network config wizard? there was a wirzard at installation of kubuntu08:58
_robinso tell me, how to get rid of those gnome packages? ;p09:00
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cplusplusi have a problem i can ping the router but i am not able to ping google.at !?!09:04
ccc__robin: those are gnome/kde packages, they have nothing to do with ubuntu or kubuntu in particular. :) i would remove the applications i don't want by hand. possibly you could use sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop09:06
cplusplusany idea?09:07
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cplusplusi think its a problem of dns09:08
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feistelhi09:08
feistelwhy I can't see the trash icon in the desktop?09:08
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cipi604hello09:11
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mailohello09:11
mailocaio09:11
mailociao09:11
mailoi italian09:11
cipi604it's working all fine i don;t have problems :))09:11
_robinccc_: doesn't work either09:11
cipi604so no questions...09:11
mailosorry no englisch09:11
cipi604italiana?09:12
mailoitaliano09:12
cipi604scuze09:12
mailode nada09:12
cipi604e fredo nel italia?09:12
mailoun po09:13
mailoun pochito09:13
cipi604siete fortunati09:13
cpluspluscan i start the network config wizard?09:13
mailoperche09:13
mailoperche'? siamo fortunati09:13
larsivi!it09:13
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!09:13
cipi604perche nel romania sono -15 C09:13
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cipi604un po al est09:14
mailocome faccio09:14
mailoa trovare altri server09:14
mailoa ok grazie09:14
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mailogarzie09:14
cipi604per che?09:14
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cipi604il server per irc?09:15
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triodecplusplus: I have a similar problem09:22
cplusplusdid you solve it?09:22
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triodecplusplus: did you just happen to do an upgrade on kde or something similar? that's the very last thing I could do before the LAN broke09:23
cplusplusfirst it works09:23
cplusplusbut i have to change the ip...09:23
cplusplusbecause i already used it09:23
triodei can't even see the router :(09:23
cplusplusi am reinstall kubuntu now09:23
cplusplusi can ping the  router09:23
triodebut I am positive that the problem started right after I upgraded to KDE3.5 (and who knows what else) and then, after rebooting the LAN was gone09:24
triodedid you upgrade09:24
triode?09:24
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weedarFor some reason programs have started sigsev'ing, I havent' installed anything new either. Any tips as to why this is happening?09:27
KnowerrorsAnybody here use dialup modem for internet access, and have v92 modem on hold / net waiting , working on Linux?09:30
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almiendo I need to do anything special to upgrade to the latest version of (k)ubuntu using apt-get?09:34
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dbglthello everyone :) I finally got my net working with kubuntu :)09:36
bushitochats dead =P09:36
almienwelcome back to the net then, dbglt09:36
dbgltI have a few questions to ask, if you folks wouldn't mind - they are pretty basic, but I'm new to ubuntu and the .deb concept :p09:37
triodecplusplus: try this command:  " sudo dhclient "and see if you can browse the web.09:37
dbglthow do I go about adding a repository? I want to find an Australian one close to me to add09:37
bushitothis is not ubuntu =O is Kubuntu09:37
bushito=)09:37
dbgltI'm using kubuntu09:37
dbgltsame thing09:37
dbglt:09:37
bushitoo no09:37
bushito=O09:37
dbgltI want to update my kde to 3.5 as well09:37
bushitoehh press alt + f209:38
bushitoand put09:38
bushitoaptitude09:38
bushito...09:38
dbgltthat is installed packages, no?09:39
dbgltI want to add a new internet repository :)09:39
bushitoyeah you can modify repositories there09:39
dbgltah09:39
dbgltI don't know of one09:39
dbgltdoes it provide a list?09:39
dbgltI think I'm using the kubuntu before dapper...09:41
bushitohhhmmm09:41
bushitolet me check to guide you09:41
dbgltI installed via the Kubuntu 5.10 install CD09:41
dbgltbushito: thanks09:41
bushitookey09:42
bushitoyou using kubuntu right?09:42
dbgltaye09:42
bushitopres alt + f209:42
bushitoand then put adept09:42
bushitoxD09:42
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bushitothe manager should com up09:43
bushitoyou need to put your su password09:43
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dbgltaha09:43
dbgltthere is a list09:43
dbgltgreyed out :)09:43
dbgltgood good09:43
bushitothen press adept09:43
bushitoin the top meny09:43
bushitoand go to manage repositories09:43
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bushitomenu*09:43
dbgltau.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu09:44
bushitoand voila =O you can modify repositories09:44
dbgltit is "breezy" and "universe"09:44
dbgltwill that suffice ?09:44
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bushitoeehh09:44
bushitochange universe09:44
bushitofor multiverse09:44
bushitoxP09:44
bushitoyou get more package that way =O09:44
lususman i every time i log in.. i get this battery error.09:46
lusus.39493727290727% or something09:46
lususi have no battery!09:46
bushito(o_o) lol09:46
bushitoxD09:46
bushitoyou got a LTP??09:46
bushitolusus?09:46
lususLTP?09:47
lususno09:47
lususdesktop09:47
lusushmm09:47
bushito..... mmm09:47
bushitolol and why you get that error ??09:47
lususyeah i don't know why i get it09:48
lususeverytime i log in.09:48
bushitomaybe a misscofigured package?09:48
bushito.... (o_o)09:48
lususthe little battery icon in the dock, is like no power source found. well duh.. itis a desktop09:48
lusushow can i get rid of it?09:48
almienthat's how many hours it will run if you leave it plugged into the mains?09:49
almiendoes it predict power cuts?09:49
KnowerrorsWhats a good gui video editor and converter on linux?09:50
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_dbgltseems my net wasn't as fixed as I thought it to be :p09:53
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_dbgltbushito: thanks, I've managed to set that up. Fetch updates didn't work, but apt-get update does09:53
_grigoryhey everyone09:54
jwintershola09:54
_grigoryi was just wondering, i go to the system menu -> storage media09:54
_grigoryand the only thing i see there is my floppy09:54
_grigoryno dvd\cd drives, to hard drives09:54
_grigoryno*09:54
_grigoryhow do i make them appear in there?09:54
_grigoryon my friend's laptop all those devices are listed there09:55
bushito_dbglt: n.n weee!! iam helping =D09:55
_dbgltbushito: :)09:55
_dbgltok09:57
_dbgltwhat's an easy way to upgrade my kubuntu installation?09:57
bushito(o_o)09:57
bushitoapt-get upgrade?09:57
bushitoor you mean dist upgrade??09:58
_dbgltyeah09:58
_dbgltlike the whole thing upgrade09:58
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_dbgltto newest version09:58
bushitowhat dist you running?09:58
_dbgltbreezy?09:58
_dbglt5.10 install CD09:58
bushito=O thats the last one09:58
_dbgltwhatever that comes with09:58
_dbgltoh09:58
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_dbgltwhat's the dapper I keep seeing?09:59
bushitotomorrow comes snapshot for ubuntu09:59
bushitowhat dapper??09:59
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_dbglthttp://packages.ubuntulinux.org/09:59
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_dbgltdapper09:59
bushitosays your system out of date... do apt-get upgrade09:59
owneror apt-get dist-upgrade10:00
owner:D10:00
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bushito(o_o)10:01
bushitoi didnt knew dapper was out...10:01
_dbgltI think I killed adept...10:01
_dbgltpressed the gstreamer-ffmpeg10:01
_dbgltand it is dead10:02
bushitolol10:02
bushitoxD10:02
cipi604goet anyone working "gyatch" -enhanced10:02
bushitoHoly cow need to get Dapper =O10:02
_dbgltbushito: hehe10:02
_dbgltbushito: how to I upgrade, too? :)10:02
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bushitowell i am not really sure10:03
bushitobut normally on repositories10:03
bushitoyou change current distro name "breezy" to new one "dapper"10:03
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bushitobut that was on debian =O not really sure here10:04
cipi604does anyone have "gyatch" working... yes/no ... how is it?10:04
_dbgltwhy is adept so ugly looking?10:04
bushitocipi604: not me.. dont even know whats that10:04
_dbgltit doesn't seem to be using my settings for fonts and such10:04
ownergyach-enhanced? cipi10:04
ownerit is buggy10:04
cipi604yes10:04
cipi604i know10:04
cipi604:D10:04
owneryou can convert the rpm to a deb10:05
ownerwith alien10:05
cipi604but it is the only ym 7 like10:05
bushito_dbglt: wierd...10:05
ownerbut i never did get voice chat to work10:05
ownerwith it10:05
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_dbgltI've set both my user, and my super user's fonts up... all other applications work fine10:05
_dbgltbar adept10:05
cipi604i've installed the .tar.bz210:06
ownerjust use synaptic10:06
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cipi604and is not starting...10:06
_dbgltadept seems ok10:06
_dbgltjust ugly :)10:06
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bushito_dbglt: what do you mean with "ugly"10:07
_dbgltbushito: the fonts are all horrible10:07
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_dbglttoo big, not AA, horrid10:07
bushito_dbglt: can you show a pic?10:07
_dbgltsure10:07
cipi604hahahaha10:07
SirKillalothow's the desktop of KDE called?10:08
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SirKillalotit broke down, how can I restart it10:08
cipi604owner:  so i keep gaim instead... damn :(10:08
SirKillalotall the icons and so on10:08
SirKillalotand the background10:08
SirKillaloteverything black10:08
bushitoSirKillalot: crtl + alt + backsapce10:08
SirKillalotbushito, no10:08
SirKillalot.10:08
bushitoSirKillalot: ??' thats how you restart it10:08
bushitoSirKillalot: unless you in console =)10:08
pulverhow do one change the kde style for root? so it matches the user style and get a consistent look...10:09
_dbgltbushito: does the DCC send work?10:09
ownercipi you could try converting the rpm on that gyach site to a deb10:09
bushito_dbglt why dont you try http://kubuntu.pastebin.com =)10:09
ownerwith alien10:09
ownerlike this, alien file.rpm10:10
SirKillalotbushito, yea, I in console :P10:10
bushitoSirKillalot: startx?10:10
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cipi604i know.... but works?10:11
bushitooops closed Konver.. xD10:11
cipi604i have the rpm too10:11
SirKillalotbushito, I mean just the desktop10:12
SirKillalotnothing else10:12
bushitoSirKillalot: mmm i dont understand what you mean10:12
SirKillalotok10:13
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bushitoSirKillalot: BTW do you play RO??xP10:13
bushitoSirKillalot: or any mmorpg?? hehehehe xD10:13
SirKillalotI was playing RO for 2 weeks maybe? just a test period10:13
bushitoSirKillalot: or was it americas army... >_>mm10:13
bushitoSirKillalot: i know ive seen you in a online game10:14
SirKillalot;)10:14
bushitoSirKillalot: did you used cedega?? or guindox?10:14
eightieskanyone know why my flash player won't play sound?10:15
eightieskfirst my gaim didn't nowwww flash stoped.10:16
bushitoeightiesk: maybe cause you get an alsa decive is on use error?10:16
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bushitoeightiesk: i get same error =) trying to figure how to reapir10:17
bushitorepair*10:17
eightieskanother thing is10:17
bushitojust close programs that use sounds10:17
eightieskThe video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.10:18
bushitolike messengers or media players10:18
eightieskwhen i start totem10:18
dbgltbushito: that paste site isn't for images?10:18
bushito=) use xine10:18
bushitodbglt: yes =P10:18
bushitoeightiesk: xine is better than totem10:18
dbgltbushito: any idea why adept is zorking my fonts?10:19
kavit_mplayer > *10:19
bushitodbglt: ohh you mean your fonts xD10:19
bushitodbglt: lol oh let me check pic again10:19
DingoMankubuntu rox... thats what i want t say... err.. nevermind :>10:20
cipi604owner:  trying again...10:20
bushitodbglt: send picture again XD i dont know where it downloaded =D10:21
DingoManbut... anyone know if theres 64 bit wine binary package?10:21
cplusplussatempler there?10:22
eightieskanyone here play FFXI10:23
cplusplussatemplercplusplus: open a termenal and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list .... also add multiverse to the 34 th and 35th line??? multiverse?????10:23
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bushitodbglt: i dont see any "uglyness" on your fonts =P10:24
dbgltbushito: my turn to close konvi hehe, did you have a look at it?10:24
dbglt!!10:24
ubotu??10:24
dbgltsee the difference between adept and the other applications?10:24
bushito.... not really =P10:24
dbgltlook at the menu, look at the text!!10:25
bushitolet me see10:25
cplusplusyeah sound ;-)10:25
cplusplusi think there is a bug...10:26
bushitodbglt: i dont see any difference10:26
bushitoit is all normal to me10:26
cplusplusi now use xine ... same like before...10:26
eightieskwhy is my sound delayed?10:27
eightiesklike on gaim10:27
eightieskits likr 4 seconds after the message.10:27
ownerin kde sound setup10:28
ownerincrease buffer to max10:28
ownerand run as highest priority10:28
dbgltbushito: look at the juk window menu... compare that to the adept window10:28
dbgltcompletely different font, different size, etc.10:28
cplusplusi installed openssh-server..... how can i start/stop sshd?10:29
Xemanth^service sshd stop ?10:30
jjessesudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop10:30
jjessesudo /etc/init.d/sshd start10:30
cpluspluslike  gentoo;-)10:30
bushitowell mine is like that 210:31
cpluspluscommand not found?10:31
dbgltthat isn't normal :p10:31
bushitodbglt: so i dont see why you get so alterated if you can read it xP10:31
eightieskowner: it says artswraper is missing or disabled.10:31
dbgltit is ugly10:31
dbgltit makes my desktop ulgy10:31
dbgltthat's a crime!10:32
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bushitodbglt: then you know what to do.. =P learn to program in C xP10:32
bushitodbglt and make your own =D that will help10:32
dbgltok, anyone who can help me with my NTFS partition? It is all set up lovely and that, but can only be accessed by the super user. How do I set it up for a normal user?10:32
dbgltbushito: :p10:32
bushitodbglt chown   user.superuser /ntfs ??10:33
bushitoand then10:33
bushitochmod +rwxrwxrwx /ntfs =P10:33
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dbgltchmod 777?!10:33
bushitoeven your dog should have acces to the ntfs =)10:34
bushitoi dont know with numbers10:34
dbgltit is automatically done by ubuntu, set up to mount at /media/hda210:34
dbglt7 = rwx10:34
bushitobut i do it like this chmod +rwxrwxrwx /ntfs =10:34
bushitooh then yeah10:34
bushitowell i mean dont put write!!10:35
dbglt/dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       010:35
dbglt/dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       010:35
dbgltwhich is odd, because the fat drive is accesible by a normal user10:35
bushitoput +r-xr-xr-x10:35
dbglt(usually I have to add -ogid=blah blah10:35
dbgltbut the ntfs drive isn't...10:35
bushitontfs =) it is not devolop on linux yet10:35
bushitoonly fat10:35
bushitoread it on10:35
bushitowiki10:35
dbgltyeah I know, but normally even for my user to have read access to a FAT partition, I've got to set gid and umask and such10:36
bushitoif you try towrite on ntfs youll get data loss10:36
bushito=D10:36
eightieskhey10:36
dbgltso I'm thinking ubuntu is doing some jiggery pokery behind the scenes10:36
dbglt:p10:36
cplusplus@jjesse sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop      not sshd!10:36
bushitodbglt: lol xD10:36
jjessedoh10:36
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dbgltis there any difference in the ati drivers provided from ubuntu/from ati.com?10:37
chxhi. I can't get timidity to work -- patches are loaded but there is no sound :( beep-media-player, mplayer, xine all works.10:38
ownerthe ati ones are newer10:38
ownerif you mean fglrx10:38
ownerbut there is no improvement to using the new ones10:38
owneras of yet10:38
SkrotWhere is kdm files stored? Configs etc10:38
ownerin .directories10:38
ownerhidden10:38
bushitoowner have you seen the Dapper dist??' =O dbglt mentioned it and it is out already do you have it?10:38
ownerdapper is pre release10:39
ownerits being finalized in april10:39
bushitoi see10:39
owner!dapper10:39
ubotuwell, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.10:39
bushitohhhm10:40
pulverwhat kde file(s) is equivalent to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 in gnome (styles settings etc) ?10:40
chxwell, Riddell himself said the other day that it's pretty stable -- of course, what ubotu says is also true10:45
eightieskwhy does my clock keep changing to a diffrent timezone10:45
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owner!time10:46
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, owner10:46
owner!timezone10:46
ubotuowner: parse error: dunno what you're talking about10:46
owner!timezones10:46
ubotuowner: I don't know, could you explain it?10:46
eightiesklol10:47
ownerlol10:47
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reonany know problems with the backport repos ???10:52
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eightieskne more10:52
reoni'm gettin stat & MD5 checksum errors10:53
eightieskHELP10:54
eightiesklol10:54
lususwtf.. i lost all keyboard typing on kubuntu10:54
lususrestart didn't work10:54
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reonwhat did you do before your keyboard failed10:55
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lususi was installing firefox10:58
lususdoesn't make sense10:58
fangoriouswhen I run my laptop on battery power, klaptop has the cpu throttled to %87 and the it is horrible. When i run in gnome, i have the cpu monitoring applet and can see the cpu scaling from 50% to 1005 and responsiveness is just fine. is there something i'm missing in configuring klaptop?10:59
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fangoriouslusus: what doesn't make sense?11:00
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bushitowhat program can i use to concet to a remote computer??11:02
lususfangorious: i lost my keyboard functionality while installing firefox..reboot didn't work11:02
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larsivibushito: krdc11:02
fangoriouslusus: you're right, that doesn't make sense. maybe just coincidental timing11:03
bushitoworks for kubuntu / ubuntu??11:03
eightieskhow do i change my deafult timezone?11:03
ownerare you using gnome11:03
owneror kde11:03
lususfangorious: i am going to do a reinstall..11:03
eightieskkde.11:03
larsivibushito: what's your remote computer?11:03
ownerin bottom right hand corner11:03
ownerjust double click11:03
owneractually right click11:03
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owneradjust time and date11:03
bushitolarsivi: i wanna conect to a friend computer to check some configs11:03
fangoriouslusus: have you tried another keyboard?11:04
bushitolarsivi: i remember in debian it was xcreen something like that but here i dont know11:04
kehermanIs it possible to have KDE desktop as a login choice when logging into Ubuntu?11:04
larsivibushito: I think krdc integrates most of the protocols11:04
larsivibushito: might try krdc11:04
kehermanI want the user to be able to choose their favorite, either Gnome or KDE, when logging in like on Red Hat Enterprise Linux11:04
owner!smeg11:04
ubotuAlacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/11:04
larsivibushito: or for just commandline, use ssh11:04
eightieskowner, and then?11:04
lususfangorious: the only key that would work is control.. yeah i did.. unplugged and replugged new keyboard.. and then lost mouse capability..11:04
fangoriouskeherman: install kubuntu-desktop to get the official packages for your distro, then select KDE from the Sessions button on your login manager11:04
ownerpick your time zone eightiesk11:05
kehermanfangorious, will it automatically be added to the Sessions choices?11:05
fangoriouskeherman: you will be asked if it's a one-time change or a permanent change11:05
fangoriouskeherman: yes11:05
fangoriouslusus: weird11:05
eightieskowner, but i did and it changed back to gmd...11:05
lususfangorious: no kidding11:05
kehermanfangorious, ahh thanks dude -- and it will save the preference in the user's home dotfile if he likes to remember?11:05
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fangoriouskeherman: if you say to make it default, then it will load kde by default at each new login11:06
kehermanfangorious, KDE is nice :-)11:06
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kehermanfangorious, yeah this is a lab with 25 machines all mounting 200+ users from an NFS11:06
kehermanfangorious, just wanted to make sure it doesnt change for everyone...11:07
fangoriouskeherman: should be per user11:07
kehermanfangorious, you rule!11:07
SkrotHi. What's needed in order to make translucensy (of windows, in the "Window Behavior" section in kcontrol) work? Hardware wise I mean. I've got a card running DRI and Xorg 7.0 :>11:08
trappistSkrot: you need to enable the composite extension11:08
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dbglthow come in adept, "kde" is shown as "not installed"11:08
ownerthats a meta package dbglt11:09
Skrottrappist: in xorg.conf, right? How do I check if it (the extension) is on or off except checking the xorg.conf?11:09
owneryou have kubuntu-desktop installed instead11:09
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dbgltowner: ok11:09
trappistSkrot: I don't know, but if you haven't gone out of your way to enable it, it's off.11:09
Skrottrappist: I've got Option "Composite" "Enable" in Xorg.conf, but I want to check if it's really on11:09
dbgltowner: I want to upgrade to newer kde. Can I do that with the meta package?11:10
triodehello. Upgrading Kubuntu TODAY messed up my internet connection. I had a fresh install and upgraded a few days ago, no problems, but today after an upgrade (and I travel in a couple of days), I can't get any web browsing before I run "sudo dhclient"11:10
trappistSkrot: see if you can run xcompmgr11:10
fangoriousSkrot: enable some feature that uses it, and if it doesn't work, check /var/log/xorg (or whatever the file is called, it'll be in /var/log though)11:10
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dbgltI have kde 3.4.3 installed now11:10
dbgltI want 3.511:10
ownerjust add the kde 3.5 repos for kubuntu dbglt11:10
ownerand sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:11
dbgltowner: I'm not sure what you mean by that11:11
dbgltthere is a seperate repository for kde 3.5?11:11
seashell11ubotu tell dbglt about kde3.511:11
fangoriousdbglt: kubuntu.org should tell you how to add the repo for 3.511:11
Skrottrappist: It runs11:11
seashell11!kde3.511:11
ubotuwell, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php11:11
trappistSkrot: I think that's a valid test.  not 100% sure.11:11
seashell11dbglt: that will tell you11:11
Skrottrappist: Okay. KDE needs to be restarted for this to work?11:12
SkrotThis being tranclucency?11:12
trappistSkrot: yes11:12
Skrotokay11:12
dbgltok11:12
dbgltI added that repository to adept11:12
fangorioustriode: have you checked that the interface is still configured to come up on boot?11:12
dbgltwhat do I update now? Kubuntu-desktop?11:12
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seashell11dbglt: sudo apt-get update11:12
dbgltseashell11: does this remove my old kde?11:13
seashell11dbglt: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:13
fangoriousdbglt: a'pt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade' is the sequence I went with (answering yes to all)11:13
dbgltok11:13
seashell11dbglt: yes it will remove your old kde11:13
dbgltok, good11:13
dbgltI don't want it to take up all my space11:13
_patrickWould anyone be able to help me configure my sound setup so I can have sound with full duplex instead of half.  Teamspeak running, AA then has no sound.11:13
dbgltfangorious, seashell11, owner: thanks for your help. I'll report back if it works or not :)11:14
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fangoriousanyone familiar with cpu scaling in kde (klaptop)?11:14
Skrothehe, tranc. seems to work. Horrible slow though :)11:14
triodefangorious: yes, it even syncronizes the clock with ubuntu.net11:15
fangorious_patrick: i believe there's a recent thread on ubuntuforums.org in the hardware->sound & video forum that covers setting it up with alsa11:15
dbgltok. One more thing. I want to install the "Opera" internet broswer, but can't seem to find it in the ubuntu repository. Should I download it and install it manually?11:16
kkathmanfangorious: probably better to refer to the wiki ...more reliable :)11:16
fangorioustriode: then what is the manual run of the dhcp client doing?11:16
fangoriouskkathman: probably, didn't know there was an entry for that11:16
kkathmanfangorious:  the wiki covers almost everything...in one way or another :)11:16
_patrickI wish the forums would work for me, I go there and browser just hangs.11:16
kkathmanubuntuforums is very much on the ropes right now11:17
dbgltI will just download from the website. Doesn't matter :)11:17
kkathmanfor sound issues in ubuntu/kubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles11:18
triodefangorious: enables DHCP for web browsing, if I don't do that it doesn't work (I've read quite a few posts regarding this in the kubuntu forums, I think it's definately related to the upgrade)11:18
fangoriouskkathman: yeah, someone in #ubuntu said the forums were back online abou 10 minutes ago, haven't checked11:18
ownerthey are online11:19
ownerfor now11:19
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fangorioustriode: that doesn't make sense. DHCP configures the IP address, network mask, default route, and possibly setting the nameservers. it shouldn't matter if it's being used by ntp or firefox. either the interface is up or it isn't11:20
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Slaphappyhi... can anyone give me more sources because im feeling that lots of apps are missing.. i need kxdocker and some other stuff11:20
SkrotAny way to make translucency not apply to kicker btw? ;)11:21
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trappistSkrot: I think you can set up application-specific window behavior11:21
fangorioushi 'apt-get source <package>'11:21
kkathmanSlaphappy: have you  tried looking in the repos for kxdocker... its there11:21
fangoriousand by hi, i mean Slaphappy11:21
kkathman!install11:22
ubotuinstall is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation11:22
Skrottrappist: hm :)11:22
Slaphappyhmm havent looked there, only did apt-cache search kxdocker and didn't find anything11:22
DjDarkmancan someone help me set up a gmail account for kmail?11:22
triodefangorious: I know it doesn't make sense, I'm just describing the problem and the 'mikey mouse' solution11:24
triodeI wish "sudo dhclient" could be added to the startup script (read: autoexec.bat equivalent)11:24
fangorioustriode: immediately after the machine is booted, try running 'ip addr', 'ip route', and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'. If you don't have an IP address and netmask in the first command, a default route in the second command, or nameserver in the third command, then the interface isn't fully configured11:24
Skrottrappist: Any way to speed it up if you don't have a nVidia or ATI card btw? ;)11:24
fangorioustriode: in /etc/network/interfaces, do you have 'auto eth0' (assuming the interface in question is eth0?11:25
triodefangorious: I do have auto eth011:25
triodeI'll try the other things in a minute11:25
fangorioustriode: what other lines for eth0 are there in /etc/network/interfaces (don't have linux booted right now and forget the exact syntax to specify an interface as dhcp)11:27
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Zappahrm how do i restart artsd if it crashes11:28
fangoriousZappa: sudo invoke-rd.c artsd restart11:28
Zappawhere is invoke-rd.c?11:29
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fangorious i know there's a page that lists the current version, and dependencies, for each package for a particular release, but I can never find it. anyone happen to know it11:29
fangoriousZappa: sorry, invoke-rc.d11:30
bimberifangorious: http://packages.ubuntu.com/11:30
fangoriousZappa: you could also use 'sudo /etc/init.d/artsd restart' (invoke-rc.d looks for the script in that folder11:30
fangoriousbimberi: well that was embarassingly obvious11:31
bimberifangorious: lol - not really (unless you've been used to using packages.debian.org)11:32
fangoriousbimberi: .... no comment11:32
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bimberi:)11:33
Zappafangorious: it says it's an unknown init script11:33
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fangoriousZappa: look in /etc/init.d to see what it's called11:34
Zappahmm, there doesnt seem to be one for artsd11:35
Zappathe only one that seems sound related is alsa, but restarting that didnt help11:35
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_patrickpatrick@techsonic:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards11:36
_patrick0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA010611:36
_patrick                     Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xd000 irq 1811:36
_patrickanyone understand that>?11:36
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fangoriousZappa: hm, guess I don't know then. I don't have linux booted right now so I can't poke around to find out11:37
fangorious_patrick: to some limited extent11:37
Zappaokay thanks anyway!11:37
trappistSkrot: not that I know of11:39
Skrottrappist: Okay :)11:39
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trappistSkrot: maybe if your card's drivers support the Render extension11:39
fangoriousSkrot: well, if you have a card that does hardware 3d acceleration, you'd have to look for a driver to enable it11:40
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Skrotfangorious: I read something about mainly nVidia cards having accelerated support for xrender or whatever it's called in the non-kubuntu version of KDE 3.5 (that part of kcontrol looks different there)11:40
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trappistI'm pretty sure hardware-accelerated composite rendering is supported by completely different stuff than 3d11:41
_patrickfangorious, Do you know how to get an updated alsa for that card?  I'm trying to open all channels so I can have sound in multiple programs at once.  Such as Teamspeak and also have sound in America's Army11:41
Skrotcomposite rendering is "just" manipulation of a bitmap, no?11:41
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trappistSkrot: my understanding of it is far from complete, but I think it just refers to blending images (for example an image and a transparency) offscreen to render the result onscreen11:42
Skrotright :)11:42
alaouisalut.......hhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee11:42
Skrottrappist: But I guess nVidia drivers has some stuff to accelerate the process11:43
trappistSkrot: yeah if I turn on Option "RenderAccel" "true" I get hardware help with xrender11:43
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Skrotright :)11:43
trappisterr with composite11:43
SkrotIs there a noticable change in the speed?11:43
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trappistwell yeah, any time you do something with hardware instead of software it's going to be a lot faster11:44
SkrotIn theory, yes. Depends how optimized the hardware/driver is for that sort of stuff I guess :)11:44
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trappistI don't use composite anymore anyway, because I have to sacrifice 3d gaming for it11:45
SkrotBut this kind of stuff will kick ass once x(e)gl land :)11:45
trappistwith nvidia I can say Option "AllowGlxWithComposite" "true" but it's so unstable it's useless11:45
SkrotRight, xcompmgr isn't really stable at anything as far as I've heard11:47
SkrotJust wanted to give it a shot11:47
eightieskmy sound won't work11:47
eightiesk!sound11:47
ubotusomebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary11:47
eightieskno.11:49
eightiesknoth that11:49
eightieski get an error.11:49
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BrickMakeri'm downloading Kubuntu from here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso11:53
BrickMakerit will take 25 hours to complete :))11:53
cpluspluswhich is the right packet for mizilla-firefox <--- browser! ?11:54
cplusplusapt-get install mozilla-firefox   ?11:54
BrickMakerdoes kubuntu supports synaptics package manager?11:55
eightieskhey11:56
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eightieskwhy won't my flash player play sounds?11:57
bimberiBrickMaker: you can install synaptic on kubuntu yes11:57
bimbericplusplus: no just "firefox" (in breezy)11:57
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cplusplusi used mozilla-firefox....whats that?11:58
cplusplushm11:58
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bimberi!info mozilla-firefox11:58
ubotumozilla-firefox: (dummy transitional package), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 84 kB11:58
BrickMakerUbuntu is better or Kubuntu ?11:59
bimbericplusplus: it has a single dependency - firefox :)11:59
cplusplusbimberi can i deinstall mozilla-firefox?11:59
bimberiBrickMaker: try both and make up your own mind :)11:59
bimbericplusplus: you can, there's no harm in leaving it there though12:00
cplusplushow?12:00
BrickMakerbimberi, thats good idea lolx!12:00
bimbericplusplus: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox (it will just remove the metapackage)12:01
cplusplusthx;)12:01
bimberiyw :)12:01
cplusplusdo you like kubutu?12:02
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MonkethMaybe...12:02
cplusplusdid you test gentoo?12:02
BrickMakeri like ubuntu12:02
BrickMakernever used kubuntu12:02
cplusplusits the same12:02
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bimberihehe, i do, but i have to admit that i'm running ubuntu atm12:02
cpluspluskde = kubuntu, ubuntu = gnome12:02
BrickMakercplusplus, nope12:02
cplusplusanother desktop manager?12:03
BrickMakeridk12:03

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