[12:03] <cold> from where ?
[12:03] <orion_fr_24> cold: why create your own ?.
[12:03] <orion_fr_24> cold: from there server lemme give you the link
[12:03] <orion_fr_24> cold: AMD or pentium ??
[12:04] <orion_fr_24> http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/
[12:04] <orion_fr_24> go here
[12:04] <orion_fr_24> and get a live CD version
[12:04] <orion_fr_24> then burn th iso file
[12:04] <orion_fr_24> and it s done
[12:04] <chx> www.ubuntuforums.org -- others have a problem, too?
[12:04] <cold> orion_fr_24 pentium
[12:05] <orion_fr_24> cold: then click here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-live-i386.iso
[12:05] <cold> orion_fr_24 i just want some files so I can boot my ubuntu partition from vmware
[12:06] <cold> orion_fr_24 I have ubuntu not kubuntu will it still work ?
[12:06] <orion_fr_24> cold: i m sorry but I dont understand you
[12:06] <orion_fr_24> cold: what daya mean is it installed on your computer ?
[12:07] <orion_fr_24> cold: why are you talking about CD so ??
[12:07] <rance> can I ask what you guys use to send invoices to customers, im looking for something, but gnucash is way overkill for what I want (it requires 40 packages on a stock kubuntu box) all I really want is to print nice looking customer invoices and track payment of them
[12:07] <orion_fr_24> chx: forums not working either for me
[12:08] <vge> dead as allways
[12:08] <orion_fr_24> vge: yep
[12:08] <cold> orion_fr_24, I want to boot my ubuntu partition from with windows xp using vmware
[12:08] <orion_fr_24> cold: I dont know how to do that
[12:08] <orion_fr_24> cold: sorry
[12:08] <cold> using a bootable cd
[12:09] <cold> so as long as the cd boots my ubuntu partition it would work
[12:09] <orion_fr_24> cold: I understand what you wanna do but still can t get why you need a cd
[12:10] <cold> cause I already have a os loaded
[12:10] <cold> windows
[12:10] <orion_fr_24> cold: this iso file I gave to you is like knoppix
[12:10] <cold> orion_fr_24 I know what u mean
[12:10] <orion_fr_24> cold: it s a live CD
[12:10] <orion_fr_24> cold: i dont think it could help you
[12:10] <chx> OOOOOOOOOOOH
[12:10] <chx> where can I get a fresh nvidia-glx ?
[12:10] <callie> whew!
[12:10] <orion_fr_24> cold: sorry but I dont know nothing about vmware
[12:11] <orion_fr_24> chx: same question for me
[12:11] <callie> just got a palm pilot III for a fiver!
[12:11] <chx> I mean, more fresh than the one I get w/ apt
[12:11] <cold> orion_fr_24, for simplicity, I just want a cd that can boot my ubuntu os
[12:11] <cold> cool ?
[12:11] <vge> cold: your trying to use linux just from windows or do you have to be able to boot to linux also when booting comp?
[12:11] <chx> because this http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=56801 thread touts that the 1.0-8xxx drivers FINALLY fix my RenderAccel problem
[12:11] <orion_fr_24> cold: i got your point dude but i m sorry I cant help you
[12:11] <cold> vge trying to use linux from windows
[12:11] <cold> using vmware
[12:11] <vge> only?
[12:12] <cold> yes
[12:12] <cold> I was trying to use the install disk but I don't think it allows u to boot ur partition from it
[12:12] <orion_fr_24> cold: why dont u use virtual pc instead it s seems to be easyer
[12:12] <cold> hmm
[12:12] <vge> then why not just do a linux partition with vmware, put cd into drive and boot
[12:13] <vge> like any other virtual drive
[12:13] <cold> I already have ubuntu installed
[12:13] <orion_fr_24> vge: that s what I thought
[12:13] <vge> ic
[12:13] <cold> vge but I don't have a cd that can boot my partition
[12:13] <orion_fr_24> cold: hooo and you want to keep this one
[12:13] <cold> yes
[12:13] <orion_fr_24> cold: hoo ok
[12:13] <orion_fr_24> cold: well you should check on vmware forums
[12:14] <vge> so you need way to remove the linux parttion, copy the information from the partition to vmware linux image and boot only from windows?
[12:14] <orion_fr_24> cold: I think this would be more appropriate
[12:14] <orion_fr_24> cold: or you could try using ONLY linux
[12:14] <orion_fr_24> lol
[12:14] <orion_fr_24> lol
[12:14] <orion_fr_24> lol
[12:15] <orion_fr_24> cold: or at least dual boot instead of an emulator
[12:15] <vge> orion_fr_24: have you tryed vmware?
[12:15] <orion_fr_24> vge: honnestly no
[12:15] <vge> then i would not mock it
[12:15] <orion_fr_24> vge: but u cant tell me it s really intelligent to load up 2 OS
[12:16] <orion_fr_24> vge: it will be anyway slower
[12:16] <cold> hmm
[12:16] <cold> basically
[12:16] <cold> I want to
[12:16] <cold> start windows
[12:16] <vge> well try to use 8 distros in the same machine
[12:16] <cold> load up vmware
[12:16] <cold> put my disk that can start my ubuntu os in
[12:16] <cold> and run ubuntu from withn in window
[12:16] <orion_fr_24> vge: and so ? where is the interest of using 8 distro ??
[12:16] <cold> windows*
[12:17] <vge> orion_fr_24: for testing example
[12:17] <orion_fr_24> cold: we understood cold
[12:17] <orion_fr_24> vge: I feel ok without windows
[12:17] <orion_fr_24> vge: no need of such a shit
[12:17] <orion_fr_24> vge: I have to machine
[12:17] <cold> orion_fr_24 I need it cause I do programming from both platforms
[12:17] <cold> and constantly switching and uploading files is a hassle
[12:18] <orion_fr_24> vge: one on linux and the other on MAC OS X
[12:18] <vge> cold: is there something you wanna keep in ubuntu
[12:18] <orion_fr_24> cold: i m with you man I understand
[12:18] <cold> I want to keep ubuntu it selkf
[12:18] <cold> self*
[12:18] <orion_fr_24> cold: but as I told you I cant do nothing
[12:18] <cold> I want to run ubuntu and windows at the same time
[12:18] <cold> yes u can
[12:18] <orion_fr_24> cold: ok
[12:18] <cold> tell me what files to copy to make a boot disk
[12:18] <orion_fr_24> cold: well I m proud that you trust in me like tthat
[12:19] <vge> cold: basically you dont need to boot your vmware, you just start em
[12:19] <orion_fr_24> cold: but honnestly the only thing I can do is take a look on google
[12:20] <cold> well since I am new to vmware
[12:20] <cold> its the easyiest way for me
[12:20] <SkrotFFS> Where does kubuntu store firmware for hotplug (such as the firmware for ipw2200 cards)?
[12:20] <cold> so u guys can't tell me how to make a ubuntu bootdisk ?
[12:20] <mac__> how can I turn off the taskbar tooltips?  The thing that fades in like swiss cheese... annoying...
[12:20] <cold> its that simple
[12:21] <vge> cold: make virtual linuxpartition with vmware, install ubuntu with orginal cd into that virtual linuxpartition and you never need a bootdisk to your virtual partition
[12:21] <orion_fr_24> vge: he wants to keep is pre installed distrop
[12:22] <vge> that would have clarifued alot
[12:22] <orion_fr_24> vge: so he cant do that otherwise he ll loose all his datas
[12:23] <cold> vge I have little hd spaceand lots of stuff on my ubuntu partition I want to retain
[12:23] <cold> the easyiest way out is a bootdisk
[12:23] <cold> I know u can make one but I only have 2 writeable disks and I don't want to waste them to tryal and error
[12:24] <orion_fr_24> cold: have you tried that ? http://www.vmware.com/vmtn/vm/ubuntu.html
[12:24] <orion_fr_24> vge: btw what was the html editor you advised me ?
[12:25] <vge> quanta
[12:25] <orion_fr_24> vge: OK THX
[12:25] <vge> if you need a nonwysiwyg editor
[12:26] <orion_fr_24> vge: id like wysiwig
[12:26] <vge> those are just nogood
[12:26] <vge> maby the other is then for ya
[12:27] <orion_fr_24> vge: I know just the basic in HTML
[12:27] <orion_fr_24> vge: so I cant really use a non wysiwyg
[12:28] <SkrotFFS> Anyone got experience with dapper+ipw2200? :)
[12:28] <dodger> does anyone know if the livecds have a 'persistent home'?
[12:29] <orion_fr_24> dodger: no they dont
[12:29] <orion_fr_24> dodger: you have to write on your hard drive
[12:30] <orion_fr_24> dodger: but the home folder wonlt be on HD
[12:30] <dodger> thanks orion_fr_24
[12:31] <orion_fr_24> dodger: you welcome
[12:42] <geoffWA> i have a quick question that hopefully someone can answer
[12:42] <geoffWA> how do i mount an external hard drive in kubuntu
[12:43] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: what is the filesystem ? FAT 32 ?
[12:43] <cold> can the ubuntu installation disk boot a ubuntu installation ?
[12:44] <orion_fr_24> cold no it will boot the CD partition only
[12:44] <orion_fr_24> cold: have you tried the link i sent to u ?
[12:44] <cold> yes
[12:44] <cold> it all requires a cd to boot the os
[12:44] <geoffWA> orion_fr_24: are you pretty proficient in kubuntu?
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: what daya mean ??
[12:45] <geoffWA> well i just need to know how to mount an external hard drive
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: sorry for my english i m french
[12:45] <geoffWA> its all good
[12:45] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: yes I understood that
[12:46] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: but I need to know the filesystem on it
[12:46] <geoffWA> ntfs
[12:46] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: is it NTFS FQT 32
[12:46] <geoffWA> NTFS
[12:46] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: well NTFS is difficult to mount
[12:46] <geoffWA> damn really?
[12:46] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: yep
[12:46] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: gimme a sec
[12:47] <geoffWA> k
[12:47] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: not too difficult to mount for reqd only
[12:48] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: but i m not sure u can do read and write
[12:48] <geoffWA> thats fine i dont need to write to it
[12:48] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: I m checking
[12:48] <cold> orion_fr_24, do you know how to make a bootdisk ?
[12:48] <orion_fr_24> cold: no i dont I allready told you
[12:49] <cold> does anyone in here know how to ?????
[12:49] <cold> hmm then I guess I am going to have to my self
[12:49] <geoffWA> what type of bootdisk?
[12:49] <cold> ubuntu bootdisk
[12:50] <geoffWA> a rescue disk or something?
[12:50] <cold> to boot a ubuntu partition
[12:50] <geoffWA> oh
[12:50] <geoffWA> hold on
[12:50] <cold> geoffwa just a regular bootdisk
[12:50] <cold> k
[12:50] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: http://ubuntuguide.org/#automountntfs
[12:51] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: u should check that
[12:51] <geoffWA> k thanks orion_fr_24
[12:51] <orion_fr_24> u welcome
[12:52] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: just make sure u know what is the device access for the HD
[12:52] <geoffWA> cold: you need to access stuff on a ubuntu partition right?
[12:52] <geoffWA> orion_fr_24: ok thanks dude
[12:52] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: I dont thhink it will be /dev/hda1 for you
[12:53] <geoffWA> not its usb
[12:53] <orion_fr_24> geoffWA: ok
[12:53] <orion_fr_24> so change it
[12:53] <geoffWA> ok
[12:53] <geoffWA> actually ill just install it
[12:53] <geoffWA> brb
[12:53] <cold> geoffwa yes
[12:53] <orion_fr_24> cold he s gone
[12:53] <cold> damn
[12:53] <cold> all I need is a simple bootdisk
[12:53] <orion_fr_24> cold: lol you not lucky
[12:54] <cold> I know this is dead drop easy, but my disk aren't rewritable is I fuck up
[12:54] <orion_fr_24> cold: booting linux is not like wiindows bro'
[12:54] <cold> orion_fr_24 I know
[12:54] <orion_fr_24> cold: it s not just that simple
[12:54] <orion_fr_24> cold: have you tried on some vmware forums
[12:55] <orion_fr_24> cold: i m sure it would be more appropiate
[12:55] <cold> not yet
[12:55] <cold> the live cd is running right now from within windows
[12:56] <vge> i still dont get why you just dont back up imprtant data then remove partition and do vmware image
[12:56] <orion_fr_24> cold: yeah
[12:56] <orion_fr_24> vge: programming is not just a question of datas
[12:57] <cold> vge too much of a hassle, my remote system is down right now
[12:57] <cold> and I have no trusted removable media
[12:57] <orion_fr_24> vge: it s also a personalized environement
[12:57] <cold> yes
[12:57] <cold> true
[12:57] <cold> to have to set back everything again is too much of a hassle
[12:57] <orion_fr_24> cold: i know i m a programmer as well
[12:57] <cold> its my working environment
[12:57] <vge> what suites you best
[12:58] <cold> yea
[12:59] <orion_fr_24> cold
[12:59] <cold> yes ?
[12:59] <orion_fr_24> cold: i think i got somethin 4 u
[12:59] <orion_fr_24> cold: take a look
[12:59] <cold> k
[12:59] <orion_fr_24> cold i dont have time to read all
[12:59] <orion_fr_24> cold: http://www.linuxdevcenter.com/pub/a/linux/2004/04/29/colinux.html
[01:01] <Ragion> orion
[01:01] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: yep ?
[01:01] <Ragion> didnt work
[01:01] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: shit
[01:01] <Ragion> i tried adjusting screen, then i tried insatlling breezy kubuntu
[01:02] <orion_fr_24> send me a copy of your xorg.conf file
[01:02] <Ragion> like a black and white checker screen, then pink vertical lines
[01:02] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: and breezy is not better ?
[01:02] <Ragion> nope
[01:02] <Ragion> ive used regulard ubuntu before, but i got a new video card
[01:02] <Ragion> that may be it, the gefroe 660 GT OC
[01:02] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: that s strange really your card is a well know one it should recognize it
[01:03] <Ragion> check this out:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=2752.0
[01:03] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: gimme a copy of your '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[01:04] <Ragion> alright, ill have to reboot, hold on
[01:04] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: read the link from Ragion
[01:05] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: lol
[01:05] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: it could work
[01:05] <Ragion> im not sure how id install the drivers though
[01:05] <Ragion> if i cant even get the file from within kubuntu
[01:06] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: u should be able to acces this file anyway
[01:06] <orion_fr_24> Ragion: let s go to PV
[01:13] <_manuel> notte a tutti gente :-)
[01:21] <os2mac> does anyone have any experience getting kismet running on Kubuntu?
[01:25] <orion_fr_24> ftp://girard76520.hd.free.fr
[01:27] <_jim> orion can I help you?
[01:29] <orion_fr_24> _jim: why daya think you can help me ?
[01:29] <orion_fr_24> _jim: do I sound like in need of help ?
[01:29] <os2mac> because you pvt msg'd me.
[01:30] <orion_fr_24> os2mac: ???? no I did not
[01:30] <os2mac> you pvt'd _jim...
[01:30] <os2mac> he is me.
[01:30] <orion_fr_24> no I did not
[01:30] <os2mac> ok....
[01:31] <orion_fr_24> os2mac: what I m supposed having told you ?
[01:31] <os2mac> don't know it was a blank window....
[01:31] <os2mac> that is why I asked.
[01:31] <orion_fr_24> os2mac: howw
[01:31] <orion_fr_24> os2mac: ok
[01:31] <orion_fr_24> os2mac: must be a bug
[01:32] <orion_fr_24> for those who wants MP3 ftp://girard76520.hd.free.fr
[01:32] <drumline> how do I get NFS going on #kubuntu?
[01:33] <orion_fr_24> drumline: NFS the game ????
[01:33] <drumline> nah.. :)   Network File System...   I see Samba all over the place with a couple references to NFS, but I don't see an NFS admin.
[01:33] <drumline> in a nice GUI package
[01:34] <orion_fr_24> drumline: hoo ok i prefer that
[01:34] <orion_fr_24> samba and nfs arent the same thing ???
[01:34] <drumline> heck no :)
[01:35] <orion_fr_24> drumline: i dont know
[01:35] <drumline> Samba mimics Microsoft's file sharing protocol.   NFS is the unix/linux way to do it.
[01:35] <orion_fr_24> hoo ok
[01:36] <drumline> I prefer NFS...  it's very straightforward.
[01:36] <orion_fr_24> you want what server or client ?
[01:36] <drumline> both
[01:36] <orion_fr_24> check with 'sudo apt-get install nfs-common'
[01:37] <drumline> not installed by default eh?
[01:37] <orion_fr_24> qnd 'sudo apt-get install nfs-kernel-server'
[01:37] <orion_fr_24> no it s not
[01:37] <drumline> geez...  that's weird.
[01:37] <drumline> cool.. i'll get em
[01:37] <orion_fr_24> drumline: i cant promiss it will work
[01:38] <drumline> It'll work.
[01:38] <drumline> NFS is so simple
[01:38] <orion_fr_24> drumline: u shoul googlize a bit
[01:39] <drumline> the only reason I haven't checked adept this moment is because the adept updater is taking FOREVER on my k6-2 450 Mhz box  :)
[01:39] <orion_fr_24> drumline: so if u share a folder on windows u can acces it via NFS ???
[01:40] <orion_fr_24> drumline: true ??
[01:40] <drumline> orion: there are some NFS tools for windows in the cygwin package...   But generally, you would setup the NFS share on a *ix box and use NFS between *ix boxes...    if you want windows boxes to connect to a *ix box's share, you'd use samba
[01:40] <orion_fr_24> drumline: ok
[01:40] <drumline> NFS is more for communication between *ix boxes
[01:41] <orion_fr_24> drumline: gotcha
[01:41] <drumline> But if you have a load of Ubuntu boxes, I think the most efficient and simplest way would be to use NFS
[01:41] <orion_fr_24> drumline: thx
[01:41] <orion_fr_24> drumline: anyway I only use macOS x and kubuntu
[01:41] <orion_fr_24> drumline: I m just curios
[01:42] <drumline> basically, setup a text file that specifies shares and permissions..      and on the client box:  mount -t nfs 192.168.0.1:/var/log /var/log       Unix permissions apply from there on out.
[01:42] <orion_fr_24> drumline: sounds nice
[01:42] <drumline> it is...  It's just not very common in a home environment...
[01:42] <orion_fr_24> drumline: secure enough ????
[01:42] <drumline> sure.. . it's secure
[01:43] <orion_fr_24> drumline: cool
[01:43] <orion_fr_24> drumline: i ll take a look later
[01:43] <orion_fr_24> drumline: thx for the advice
[01:43] <drumline> depending on how you set it up, of course.
[01:43] <drumline> you're welcome.  enjoy :)
[01:43] <orion_fr_24> drumline: i ll go and enjoy my bed now
[01:43] <orion_fr_24> it s late in france
[01:44] <orion_fr_24> 1:47 in the morning
[01:44] <orion_fr_24> lol
[01:44] <drumline> ahhh... :)   sleep well!    I'm outta here also
[01:44] <orion_fr_24> bye everybody
[01:48] <whiskers> im having problems with my kmenu, it wont save changes that i make
[01:51] <Xemanth^> hmm i had that same problem couple hours ago
[01:51] <Xemanth^> whiskers: did you install your kubuntu from image? without updating
[01:52] <whiskers> i installed from the kubuntu cd
[01:52] <whiskers> and did all the updates
[01:52] <whiskers> i tried running it as sudo also but that didnt work either
[01:53] <murph2481> i just did an apt-get update and then an apt-get upgrade.....will that update me to drapper-flight-3?? i am currently using flight-2
[01:54] <shawkins> may...
[01:54] <shawkins> maybe*
[01:54] <murph2481> how do i findout?
[01:54] <shawkins> you may have to do... apt-get update
[01:54] <shawkins> then apt-get distupgrade
[01:54] <shawkins> apt-get dist-upgrade
[01:54] <shawkins> can't remember... do dist-upgrade first... that should do it
[01:54] <whiskers> is there mebbe a text file that i can edit the kmenu with?
[01:55] <shawkins> *first after the apt-get update..
[01:55] <shawkins> good question whiskers
[01:55] <shawkins> really don't know..
[01:55] <Xemanth^> whiskers: did you uncomment all in /etc/apt/sources.list those deb
[01:55] <murph2481> alright well it looks like it is all updated
[01:55] <murph2481> is there a command or something i can run that will tell me the distro information?
[01:56] <whiskers> yes Xemanth^ except for the backports, i left those off
[01:57] <manuelkr> anyone can tell me a good source.list for kubuntu 5.10?
[01:59] <Xemanth^> manuelkr: just uncomment in sources.list
[01:59] <Elsan_> Should I use Alsa or artsd? I'm currently using alsa with multiple sound outputs put I heard skype works with multiple sound outputs with artsd using a special command. But I fear Cedega(uses ALSA) will not work...
[01:59] <Xemanth^> all those deb
[01:59] <Xemanth^> Elsan_: alsa
[02:00] <Elsan_> I heard KDE 4 is not going to be artsd also. Any reasons for alsa, Xemanth^?
[02:00] <Xemanth^> i cant understand why cedega splitted from wine :| fucking idiots
[02:00] <GameOver69> hey i have installed ndiswrapper properly and my wireless works... and i set up the interfaces file as i am supposed to... but my wlan0 wont boot up with the computer i always have to type dhclient wlan0 in the terminal
[02:00] <GameOver69> anyone can help?
[02:00] <Elsan_> Because they had to pay for the cd protection and some technologies, Xemanth^.
[02:00] <Xemanth^> Elsan_: i have always had problems with artsd
[02:00] <murph2481> GameOver69 i have the exact same issue
[02:00] <Xemanth^> with every machine i have used
[02:01] <Xemanth^> GameOver69: Acer 5020 ?
[02:01] <GameOver69> its just annoying u know
[02:01] <GameOver69> xemanth: no... its an hp computer dont know what mother board it has
[02:01] <murph2481> GameOver69 its very annoying and I have yet to find an answer
[02:02] <Xemanth^> GameOver69: ok :)
[02:02] <GameOver69> another issue.... i installed the oss driver thing so my sound card would work... and it does... i just cant get that to start upon startup... always have to type soundon
[02:03] <GameOver69> anyone help with that one?
[02:04] <_grigory> hey guys
[02:04] <_grigory> is there HFS for linux?
[02:05] <GameOver69> does anyone know if a ati radion 7500 mobility can be enabled in liinux... i have only seen instructions for newer drivers like 8500 plus
[02:06] <owner> gameover just use the fglrx drivers
[02:07] <GameOver69> owner: will 3d work?
[02:07] <owner> yes
[02:08] <GameOver69> owner: how do i know if i have them installed already?
[02:08] <GameOver69> and enabled
[02:09] <owner> fglrxinfo
[02:09] <owner> in a terminal
[02:09] <whiskers> still no luck on that kmenu not saving
[02:12] <GameOver69> says coommand not found
[02:15] <GameOver69> owner?
[02:19] <owner> gameover you have to install fglrx drivers
[02:19] <owner> with synaptic
[02:20] <owner> and restricted kernel modules matching your kernel
[02:20] <Xemanth^> lol
[02:20] <Xemanth^> fglrx is the most piece of shit i have known
[02:20] <owner> yeah but its the best ati owner can have
[02:20] <owner> lol
[02:20] <Xemanth^> yeah unfortunately
[02:21] <Xemanth^> i had to bought ati with my laptop *cries*
[02:21] <Xemanth^> all my other comps have nvidia
[02:22] <owner> fglrx drivers are incompatible with 2.6.15 kernel
[02:22] <owner> btw
[02:23] <GameOver69> i installed it
[02:23] <GameOver69> hope it works
[02:23] <GameOver69> how do i know what kernel i have
[02:26] <Xemanth^> owner: ahm that was the problem why it didn't work on my laptop
[02:26] <Xemanth^> i have 2.6.15
[02:26] <Xemanth^> i installed ati's fgrlx packages with --force --ignore-errors
[02:27] <Xemanth^> i mean --ignore-all
[02:27] <Xemanth^> blah
[02:27] <shawkins> --force is a great way to brake your system
[02:27] <bimberi> GameOver69: "uname -r" (in a terminal)
[02:27] <Xemanth^> well couldnt get piece of shit ati working without it
[02:27] <shawkins> regardless...
[02:28] <Xemanth^> now i can play once game, it doesn't release opengl from it :>
[02:28] <Xemanth^> it just needs reboot
[02:29] <Xemanth^> i get huge kernel panic errors in dmesg
[02:29] <owner> xemanth, it didnt work for me either
[02:29] <owner> then i read on rage3d forums
[02:29] <owner> in the linux section
[02:29] <Xemanth^> but at least i can play tuxracer \o&
[02:30] <owner> so im using 2.6.14 kernel
[02:30] <Xemanth^> i cant understant how fucking bad drivers ati can do
[02:31] <owner> and they have been making them for a few years now
[02:31] <Xemanth^> always major problems with ati drivers on my comp
[02:31] <Xemanth^> comps*
[02:31] <Xemanth^> on windows side!
[02:32] <Xemanth^> i don't use control center shit, i use original control panel... some times when i navigate through control panel it freezes whole comp that i need to take cable off and take battery off
[02:34] <owner> yes that new control panel is silly
[02:34] <owner> .net crap
[02:34] <Xemanth^> i would like to have T
[02:34] <Xemanth^> AMD Turiob 64 with nVidia Go :)
[02:35] <Xemanth^> n*
[02:35] <Xemanth^> but why in god they don't make that combi :|
[02:38] <GameOver69> owner: my 3d works horribly
[02:38] <GameOver69> i tried darwinia: man that ran horribly...... i thought my computer froze it ran so bad
[02:39] <owner> you have to run sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:39] <owner> in terminal
[02:39] <owner> and select fglrx
[02:39] <owner> or fglrxconfig
[02:39] <owner> sudo fglrxconfig
[02:39] <owner> run that
[02:39] <GameOver69> my card isnt on that list :(
[02:40] <owner> what does sudo fglrxconfig do?
[02:40] <owner> does it load
[02:40] <GameOver69> it gives u a list of supported cards
[02:40] <GameOver69> and i pick which one i have so it can configure it
[02:40] <owner> you dont have to pick a card
[02:40] <owner> just press enter
[02:40] <GameOver69> i have an ati mobiltiy 7500
[02:41] <GameOver69> oh ok
[02:41] <GameOver69> it says mouse input
[02:41] <GameOver69> i have one in my laptop
[02:41] <GameOver69> which one
[02:41] <GameOver69> ps/2?
[02:42] <owner> yeah
[02:42] <owner> i think so
[02:42] <Xemanth^> with fglrxconfig i managed to brake whole x
[02:42] <owner> xemanth, i never had any probs with it
[02:43] <owner> but they removed it in new drivers
[02:43] <GameOver69> it seems to be givin me all the answers in brackats
[02:43] <Xemanth^> when x loaded it froze whole comp :D
[02:44] <GameOver69> Do you want to initialize xfree86-dga ?
[02:44] <owner> just press enter
[02:45] <GameOver69> all the way through?
[02:46] <owner> yes
[02:46] <Xemanth^> GameOver69: i hope you backupped your xorg conf
[02:47] <GameOver69> xemanth
[02:47] <GameOver69> no i didnt
[02:47] <owner> it makes a backup anyways
[02:47] <owner> it renames xorg.conf
[02:47] <owner> look in etc/X11/
[02:47] <GameOver69> ok i pressed enter all the way
[02:47] <GameOver69> now what
[02:47] <GameOver69> it ifnished
[02:47] <Xemanth^> you should do that, i wouldn't count on ati's tools to back up
[02:48] <Xemanth^> GameOver69: kdm/startx
[02:50] <GameOver69> Xemanth: i only have startx in my usr/bin folder
[02:51] <GameOver69> run it from there?
[02:51] <owner> gameover he means reboot
[02:51] <owner> but before you do
[02:52] <owner> write down this command sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:52] <owner> if that driver doesnt work properly you can run that to chose vesa driver or old ati driver
[02:52] <owner> or rename old xorg.conf in /etc/X11
[02:52] <GameOver69> ok got it
[02:53] <GameOver69> when i restart go into usr.bin. then startx?
[02:53] <owner> doesnt kubuntu startx automatically?
[02:53] <owner> it should work from any path startx
[02:53] <GameOver69> so that enables the drivers?
[02:54] <GameOver69> startx?
[02:55] <Xemanth^> no i don't mean reboot :D
[02:55] <Xemanth^> modprobe fglrx and startx
[02:56] <Xemanth^> but well ati is still in stone age
[02:56] <Xemanth^> dunnp
[02:56] <Xemanth^> o
[02:56] <Xemanth^> i go sleep now
[02:56] <Xemanth^> clock  4 am here ->
[02:56] <adf> woooo kubuntu rocksss
[03:03] <derekS> anyone here know of a bittorrent client with a webui other than bittorrent
[03:06] <owner> azureus?
[03:07] <Xemanth^> lol
[03:08] <Xemanth^> well azureus is shit :) i'm looking for good client
[03:09] <owner> bittornado?
[03:09] <Xemanth^> its too oldschool
[03:09] <Xemanth^> :)
[03:10] <owner> lol
[03:10] <Xemanth^> i wait linux utorrent
[03:10] <MrRio> hey
[03:10] <MrRio> how do i get something like xcompmgr on kde?
[03:11] <owner> kompmgr
[03:11] <MrRio> which repo can i find that in?
[03:12] <owner> press alt+f2
[03:12] <owner> and type in kompmgr
[03:12] <MrRio> owner: cheers
[03:12] <owner> np
[03:13] <MrRio> where do i go to setup fades?
[03:13] <alaoui> salut
[03:13] <Apoc0106> owner: this is gameover... my computer froze i restarted and now i cant get into kubuntu
[03:14] <Apoc0106> im at the command prompt now... anywayi can fix this?
[03:14] <owner> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:14] <owner> select ati or vesa
[03:14] <Apoc0106> should i attempt to auto detect video hardware?
[03:14] <alaoui> salut
[03:14] <owner> no, just select
[03:15] <owner> from the list
[03:15] <bretzel> Hi, How to get the universe and multiverse repos to work in Dapper ????
[03:15] <Apoc0106> so which one ati or vesa?
[03:15] <owner> try ati
[03:15] <owner> or radeon if its  in the list
[03:15] <owner> or vesa as a last resort
[03:15] <owner> vesa works on all cards
[03:16] <Apoc0106> ok: it says please enter the video cards bus identifier?
[03:16] <Apoc0106> theres on in there do i press enter?
[03:17] <danno> hi i have a floppy mount problem in kubuntu installed in ubuntu
[03:17] <Apoc0106> owner?
[03:18] <owner> yes just press enter
[03:18] <Apoc0106> ok use kernal framebuffer device interface? yes or no?
[03:19] <owner> try no
[03:19] <MrRio> where do i change kompmgr settings?
[03:19] <danno> I tried to mount a floppy disk in Kubuntu but for some reason it wouldn't mount it it said it couldn't determine the filesystem, something like that, so I had to go to command line and mount it with sudo mount -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy and IT FINALLY MOUNTED. But how do I get the system to mount it automatically without having to use sudo? this system is for some old folks who can't use command line
[03:19] <danno> do I need some special setting in /etc/fstab?
[03:20] <owner> mrrio in kde control center
[03:20] <Apoc0106> owner: select the x.org server modules that should be loaded by default
[03:20] <owner> just use the defaults apoc
[03:20] <danno> here is my current setting in /etc/fstab for floppy: /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  auto    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[03:20] <danno> but it doesn't want to automount floppies. help?
[03:20] <MrRio> owner: look'n'feel -> style?
[03:20] <danno> I would search the forums but they are down
[03:21] <danno> and the #ubuntu people told me to come here since I'm using Kubuntu.
[03:21] <Apoc0106> owner: ok done
[03:21] <Apoc0106> restart?
[03:21] <owner> or type startx
[03:22] <danno> do I need to specify vfat in my fstab settings file for floppy?
[03:23] <dark_suic> danno, it will never auto mount floppy drive
[03:24] <dark_suic> since floppy drive doesn't have a mechanism to send the computer a signal when a floppy disk is inserted
[03:24] <danno> dark_suic: what I'm trying to do is have the floppy mount when I click on the floppy icon just like other linux distributions do
[03:24] <danno> dark_suic: yeah I mean when I click on the floppy icon
[03:24] <dark_suic> then it just should mount when double clicking it
[03:24] <dark_suic> or right-click -> mount
[03:24] <dark_suic> should just work
[03:24] <dark_suic> does media:/ work?
[03:25] <danno> dark_suic: thanks but it didnt I had to use sudo
[03:25] <danno> no it didnt
[03:25] <danno> it tried loading it and said it couldnt determine the file type
[03:25] <danno> i had to specify vfat in sudo mount
[03:25] <danno> im trying to get it working for my grandparents so they dont have to learn the command line
[03:25] <dark_suic> well, just change that in fstab and it should work
[03:25] <dark_suic> try changing auto for vfat in fstaba
[03:25] <dark_suic> fstab
[03:26] <dark_suic> not sure to work, but could do it
[03:26] <danno> it says noauto not auto
[03:26] <danno> should I change the noauto to auto?
[03:27] <Apoc0106> owner: ok i restarted andi get his error when loading in kde.... the following installation problem was detected while trying ot start KDE: no write access to /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:27] <Apoc0106> KDE is unable to start
[03:27] <danno> wait, should changing it from noauto to auto help or would that just mean loading the floppy at boot
[03:28] <danno> I figured, if the cdrom has a filetype why not add vfat to the floppy?
[03:28] <Apoc0106> then after that it says could not start ksmserver, chec, your installation
[03:28] <owner> sudo chown user:user -R /home/jo
[03:28] <owner> user being your username
[03:30] <Apoc0106> owner: ok
[03:30] <Apoc0106> now what
[03:31] <owner> sudo chgrp -R user:user /home/jo
[03:31] <owner> user being your username
[03:31] <dcode> I gotta dbus question
[03:31] <dcode> I'm trying to use the session dbus, but when I start the session, no socket is made under /tmp
[03:32] <Apoc0106> owner: invalid group name user:user
[03:32] <Apoc0106> user being my user name of course
[03:32] <owner> yes
[03:32] <Apoc0106> ok but it says its invalid group name
[03:33] <owner> but chown worked right
[03:33] <Apoc0106> yes
[03:33] <Apoc0106> is there supposed to be a space between user: user?
[03:34] <owner> no
[03:34] <Azunai> hi guys can someone help me with a small problem with the ati help file and install
[03:35] <Apoc0106> ok well what do i do then... keeps saying invalid group name
[03:35] <Azunai> ive been to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 and done everything up to step 3 were it says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel thats were i get an error
[03:36] <owner> try chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:37] <Apoc0106> done
[03:38] <owner> try startx again
[03:39] <Knowerrors> Can anyone tell me how to remove all carriage returns in a document?
[03:39] <Apoc0106> with start x.... i get in...and my icons and font seem bigger... but iget an error... COULD NOT OPEN NETWORK SOCKET... PLEASE CHECK THAT THE 'DCOPSERVER
[03:39] <Apoc0106> program is running
[03:40] <dcode> Knowerrors: using sed, vim, or what?
[03:40] <Knowerrors> openoffice or kate
[03:40] <Knowerrors> dcode: its a regular text document
[03:41] <dcode> in Kate, you can search for regular expressions right?
[03:41] <dcode> by carriage return do you mean newline?  or is it a windows or mac document?
[03:41] <Azunai> can anyone help me with a small driver issue?
[03:42] <Knowerrors> dcode: its a document I made by copy pasting a block of text from an email
[03:43] <dcode> Knowerrors, do a find and replace, search for \n and replace it with a space
[03:43] <Apoc0106> owner:im restarting
[03:43] <bimberi> Knowerrors: many editors will recognise \n as meaning the newline character.  You could try replacing \n with nothing
[03:43] <owner> ok
[03:44] <dcode> :-(
[03:44] <bimberi> dcode: :)
[03:44] <dcode> :-)
[03:44] <dcode> I'm frowning at something else
[03:44] <cyanid3> i have a quick question
[03:44] <dcode> I just rebooted my box
[03:44] <bimberi> i was going to say
[03:44] <dcode> mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: Invalid argument
[03:44] <bimberi> ah
[03:44] <Knowerrors> bimberi: ok... trying
[03:44] <dcode> :'(
[03:44] <cyanid3> how do i get / set the root password on a new install?
[03:45] <dcode> cyanid3: from your user shell, do: sudo su -c passwd
[03:45] <dcode> although, you really shouldn't need it
[03:45] <dcode> that's the whole point of sudo
[03:45] <cyanid3> i know how to use sudo
[03:45] <cyanid3> but don't i have the root password?
[03:45] <Apoc0106> owner: i still get the same error
[03:45] <cyanid3> or atleast know something about the root account?
[03:45] <dcode> with sudo, you use the users password
[03:46] <Apoc0106> about being unable to write to that file
[03:46] <owner> which file?
[03:46] <cyanid3> so with ubuntu the root account isnt really used?
[03:46] <Apoc0106> ICEauthority
[03:46] <dcode> in /etc/sudoers, it states what commands a user is authorized to use as root.  by default the acct you  make in setup will be able to do everything as root
[03:46] <owner> try sudo chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:46] <owner> if thats the path it says
[03:46] <dcode> cyanid3, the root acct isn't ever directly used
[03:46] <cyanid3> that's what i needed
[03:46] <cyanid3> thanks
[03:47] <dcode> np
[03:47] <dcode> ;_-)
[03:47] <cyanid3> i 'll probably be back
[03:47] <cyanid3> _just_ installed this distro
[03:47] <cyanid3> still trying to make up my mind about it
[03:47] <cyanid3> haha
[03:47] <Apoc0106> owner:  do  this through console login?
[03:47] <owner> yes
[03:47] <owner> in fact im pretty sure you can delete the .ICEauthority file
[03:48] <owner> because it generates a new one
[03:48] <bimberi> cyanid3: using sudo means less time as root (so less chance of catastrophic typos) and one less password to manage
[03:48] <dcode> so....for a cookie...who can tell me why my initrd all of a sudden would try to mount /dev/hda1 on /root
[03:48] <owner> but chmod should work
[03:48] <dcode> so therefore I can't boot
[03:48] <Apoc0106> owner: ok i input that line
[03:49] <owner> do sudo chmod 777 /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:49] <owner> and chown user:user -R /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:49] <Apoc0106> i just did that
[03:49] <owner> user being your username
[03:49] <cyanid3> yeah bimberi, i guessed that.  Couldn't it still be bad for security though?
[03:49] <cyanid3> nm
[03:49] <Apoc0106> owner: done
[03:49] <cyanid3> that's not the point
[03:49] <cyanid3> the point is that it's good for a disto for everyone
[03:50] <vge> /usr/share/samba/panic-action: line 48: mail: command not found Aborted
[03:50] <dcode> cyanid3, the point is that it's better for security
[03:50] <cyanid3> and not as much of a multi user aspect right?
[03:50] <vge> what i did wrong?
[03:50] <bimberi> cyanid3: i feel it's better (for those two reasons)
[03:50] <dcode> cyanid3, when a user uses sudo to execute a command...all commands are logged
[03:50] <cyanid3> true
[03:50] <dcode> this is an issue I face at work
[03:51] <dcode> people like to log into the Administrator account on our windows boxes to make changes
[03:51] <dcode> even though they have the same permissions to do it with their own accounts
[03:51] <Apoc0106> owner: whats next
[03:51] <cyanid3> hmm
[03:51] <dcode> you lose the audit trail when you login as the Admin user....in this case root
[03:51] <cyanid3> good point
[03:51] <cyanid3> why should i use some version of ubuntu instead of debian?
[03:52] <owner> sudo chown user:user -R /home/jo/.ICEauthority
[03:52] <cyanid3> (i am a debian guy)
[03:52] <owner> user being your username
[03:52] <cyanid3> i guess i'm just looking for more info
[03:52] <Apoc0106> owner: ok done
[03:52] <dcode> cyanid3, I like Ubuntu because it follows the Debian philosophies (sp), but a more aggressive release cycle...which means it has more up-to-date software
[03:52] <owner> now try starting kde apoc
[03:53] <dcode> by that's my personal preference
[03:53] <cyanid3> i hear ya
[03:53] <Apoc0106> owner: by restarting or is there a command to get back in
[03:53] <owner> startx
[03:53] <dcode> I'm a developer...so I like cutting edge features...even if it means it might break
[03:53] <cyanid3> but what about just using the testing or unstable branches?
[03:53] <owner> or alt f6
[03:53] <owner> cntrl alt f6
[03:53] <cyanid3> (in debian)
[03:53] <owner> i mean f7
[03:53] <Apoc0106> owner startx always works... but i get the DCOP communications error with startx
[03:54] <dcode> I've ran Debian Sid....but it just seems more sketchy because you have all these developers dumping stuff into sid that basically have no quality testing at all
[03:54] <dcode> and a lot of stuff gets broken because of it
[03:54] <Apoc0106> owner: says couldnot open network socket, please check that "dcopserver" program is running
[03:54] <cyanid3> yeah
[03:54] <dcode> with Ubuntu....at least they ran the software once or twice before they ship it off
[03:54] <cyanid3> yeah
[03:55] <cyanid3> can i use a debian package in ubuntu?
[03:55] <dcode> it's true that Ubuntu has much less software repository than debian, but you can pretty much use any deb package with Ubuntu
[03:55] <dcode> :-D
[03:55] <cyanid3> haha
[03:55] <cyanid3> okay
[03:55] <cyanid3> man, i have some questions, haha
[03:55] <cyanid3> one more for now
[03:55] <dcode> k
[03:55] <dcode> then I boot the recovery cd
[03:55] <Apoc0106> owner: back in console cntr, alt, f7doesnt get me back into kde
[03:56] <cyanid3> is there a good place for me to learn how to use apt the sources.list with ubuntu?
[03:56] <dcode> hmm...what do you mean exactly?
[03:56] <cyanid3> i noticed nonstandard repository names in the list (for debian)
[03:56] <cyanid3> let me get an example
[03:57] <cyanid3> like 'restricted', or 'universe'
[03:57] <cyanid3>  or multiverse
[03:57] <cyanid3> haha
[03:58] <dcode> okay...um...Ubuntu has a pretty good wiki
[03:58] <dcode> sec...
[03:58] <owner> apoc try chown -R user:user .DCOPserver*
[03:58] <cyanid3> sweet, thanks
[03:58] <owner> user being your username
[03:58] <owner> do that in your home directory
[03:58] <dcode> cyanid3: I can give you a quick rundown as I see it (I'm not an expert.....yet)
[03:59] <owner> if you do ls -all
[03:59] <owner> you should see some .DCOPserver directories
[03:59] <owner> the permissions have been set wrong
[03:59] <dcode> there's obviously the release...like breezy or dapper, etc
[03:59] <Apoc0106> owner: my homedirectory being /home/joe/
[03:59] <yonkeltron> is there a way to get firefox 1.5 in ubuntu now?
[03:59] <vge> is ubuntuforums gonna be up sometimes soon?...
[03:59] <dcode> main....is the equiv of stable
[04:00] <owner> yes
[04:00] <Apoc0106> saysno such file or directory
[04:00] <Apoc0106> for the command
[04:00] <owner> chown -R user:user .DCOPserver*.*
[04:00] <owner> try like that
[04:00] <dcode> restricted contains software that isn't neccessarily free....but useful for desktop system....like nvidia drivers
[04:01] <dcode> I think that's contrib in Debian....altough D's is more conservative I think
[04:01] <Apoc0106> owner: same error
[04:01] <vge> yonkeltron: i followed thease instructions https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[04:01] <owner> if you type ls -all
[04:01] <owner> do you see any dcop directories
[04:01] <dcode> universe is software outside the core system....it's more similar to testing
[04:01] <dcode> and multiverse is everything in the whole repository
[04:02] <Apoc0106> owner: i cant see the whole list
[04:02] <Apoc0106> just the end
[04:02] <dcode> cyanid3: that's everything I think
[04:02] <yonkeltron> vge: thanx!
[04:02] <owner> try this
[04:02] <owner> rm .DCOPServer*
[04:03] <owner> in your home directory
[04:03] <dcode> he's not even here anymore is he?
[04:03] <owner> ie /home/user
[04:03] <dcode> bah
[04:03] <Apoc0106> cannot remove
[04:03] <Apoc0106> no such file or directory
[04:03] <cyanid3> wow
[04:03] <cyanid3> sorry about hat
[04:03] <cyanid3> that
[04:03] <owner> rm .DCOPServer*
[04:03] <dcode> heh
[04:03] <cyanid3> my connection is really weird right now
[04:03] <owner> rm .ICEauthority*
[04:03] <owner> and try that
[04:04] <cyanid3> i'm getting a 5 k connecton
[04:04] <cyanid3> i'm reading what you posted now
[04:04] <Apoc0106> ok that worked
[04:04] <dcode> well...mines faster....but i'm on satellite so I'm very latent
[04:05] <owner> rm .mcop
[04:05] <owner> rm .mcoprc
[04:05] <owner> rm .Xauth*
[04:05] <cyanid3> that's useful
[04:05] <cyanid3> thansk
[04:05] <owner> then try rebooting
[04:05] <dcode> np
[04:05] <owner> it should recreate all the temp files
[04:05] <cyanid3> i'm on a 3 Meg connection
[04:06] <cyanid3> so i'm a little confused
[04:06] <cyanid3> Megabit that is
[04:06] <Apoc0106> owner: no .mcop, .mcoprc files
[04:06] <rance> could someone help me out with an issue on ssh server startup, from the service configuration Im trying to start the ssh server, and im getting an error message that says startup failed, but I cant find any reason why, and the log viewer didnt show anything
[04:06] <danno> ok now that the floppy loads after changing <type> auto -> to -> <type> vfat it doesn't let me write to it. What setting do I need to change in /etc/fstab for this? sounds like a permissions issue?
[04:06] <Apoc0106> owner: Xauth deleted though
[04:06] <dcode> cyanid3: I would be too
[04:07] <danno> this is weird, I've used plenty of Linux distributions and never had this floppy issue
[04:08] <owner> try rebooting apoc
[04:08] <Apoc0106> owner: ok
[04:08] <danno> why do I have to use sudo to write to a floppy?
[04:08] <cyanid3> that was fun
[04:09] <cyanid3> apparently i scheduled kget to download the dvd version of knoppix tonight
[04:09] <cyanid3> on my other computer
[04:09] <cyanid3> and it was taking up my bandwidth
[04:10] <cyanid3> dcode, are you a casual developer, or do you do commercial stuff?
[04:11] <Apoc0106> owner: no errors this time
[04:11] <bimberi> danno: what version of pmount do you have? "dpkg -l pmount"
[04:11] <owner> good
[04:11] <dcode> cyanid3: I'm more of a casual, but I want to get into more commercial stuff.  I do alot of custom scripting and db development commercially
[04:11] <Ragion> hey
[04:11] <Apoc0106> owner: so is it over?
[04:11] <owner> should be fine
[04:11] <Apoc0106> owner: do i have to do startx for playing 3d games/
[04:11] <owner> somehow some of your temp files got corrupted or permissions changed
[04:11] <Apoc0106> or it will just work
[04:12] <owner> but they are fixed now
[04:12] <cyanid3> cool
[04:12] <danno> bimberi: 0.9.6-1~breezy
[04:12] <dcode> cyanid3: I also do web programming/scripting commercially...mainly in PHP...I wrote a nice chunk of WordpressMU too
[04:12] <owner> apoc, startx just boots into kde
[04:12] <owner> if you are running kde you dont need to do it
[04:12] <dcode> although I haven't looked at that in almost a year
[04:12] <cyanid3> way to go with the php
[04:12] <cyanid3> i do a lot of php myself
[04:12] <danno> should I change user to my username in /etc/fstab?
[04:12] <Apoc0106> so now the game i tried should run better?
[04:12] <bimberi> danno: ok, that looks up to date - there was an issue with an earlier version
[04:13] <owner> which driver did you select when you did sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:13] <danno> bimberi: oh thanks for telling me this ;)
[04:13] <Apoc0106> ati
[04:13] <cyanid3> rance, did you make any changes to the sshd.conf file?
[04:13] <dcode> I'm a big fan of it....I can't stand VB so ASP is out...and JSP & ColdFusion are costly....plus I like the C-like syntax
[04:13] <owner> should work apoc
[04:13] <dcode> and perl is just too sloppy for me
[04:13] <dcode> for web work anyway
[04:13] <owner> radeon should work if its listed as well
[04:13] <Ragion> does anyone here have a geforce 6600 gt oc?
[04:13] <owner> might be better
[04:13] <danno> is this just becuase kubuntu uses no root account so user=root but its loading it with sudo only write permissions?
[04:13] <cyanid3> i agree
[04:13] <owner> but fglrx doesnt work as you found out.,
[04:14] <danno> this is crazy ive never had a problem mounting and writing to a floppy on other distros
[04:14] <cyanid3> with everything that you just said actualy
[04:14] <owner> i think the old fglrx worked but not the new ones for your card
[04:14] <dcode> heh
[04:14] <cyanid3> but that's probably the case with most people that are involved in some form or another in the open source community
[04:15] <Apoc0106> owner: still runs like crap :(
[04:15] <danno> in /etc/fstab do I need to change "user" to my username to have write access to floppy?
[04:15] <cyanid3> i'm not a big fan of microsoft, even though i have to support it
[04:15] <rance> cyanid3: sorry I missed your response, no I didnt make any changed to the sshd.conf file
[04:16] <dcode> cyanid3: yeah pretty much....although I know some JSP developers...
[04:16] <danno> oh do I need to add -o umask=(your umask here) to /etc/fstab?
[04:16] <dcode> cyanid3: and some die-hard perl fanatics
[04:16] <dcode> lol
[04:16] <cyanid3> yeah
[04:16] <cyanid3> perl is okay for some stuff though
[04:17] <dcode> I like perl for CLI stuff where shell scripts generally won't do
[04:17] <Apoc0106> is it that darwinia is just a grahpic intensive game... i mean my card isnt that great... but this doesnt look like it would kill my memory
[04:17] <cyanid3> wow
[04:18] <cyanid3> um, nevermind
[04:18] <rance> has anyone been able to use either aria or sql-ledger
[04:21] <dcode> ?
[04:21] <cyanid3> rance, did you get any more detail when ssh failed to start, or did it just fail?
[04:21] <cyanid3> dcode, i thought that kubuntu didnt come with a ssh client, but i was wrong
[04:21] <dcode> heh
[04:22] <dcode> man....I really gotta stop burning CDs and not labelling them....I got a stack of unknown discs right here
[04:22] <dcode> I gotta mount em to see what the hell is on them
[04:22] <cyanid3> that stinks
[04:22] <cyanid3> i keep a permanent marker ritght at my desk, next to my spindle
[04:23] <dcode> yeah...I use to...people keep making off with it....
[04:23] <rance> cyanid3, no detail, it just failed
[04:23] <dcode> I use to actually keep like 3 sharpies right here
[04:23] <dcode> they're all gone
[04:23] <danno>  wow I google and my problem says (solved) in a thread title but too bad the ubuntu forums are DOWN so I can't read the solution !!!!
[04:23] <dcode> danno: google cache?
[04:23] <crimsun> danno: cache?
[04:23] <dcode> heh
[04:23] <danno> i tried google cache doesnt load it :(
[04:23] <dcode> :-(
[04:23] <dcode> bummer
[04:23] <cyanid3> sorry man, try removing ssh and reinstalling it
[04:24] <cyanid3> that's all that i can say if you're not getting any errors at all
[04:24] <danno> one google result says: " I have experienced the same problem with Ubuntu from Hoary to Breezy, a simple thing like saving to floppy is a task for a sysadmin"
[04:24] <dcode> brb....gonna raid my roommates desk for sharpies
[04:24] <rance> yes, thats all I get, no errors, it just doesnt start
[04:24] <rance> thanks
[04:25] <rance> i'll try to uninstall it
[04:26] <dcode> w00t....found an ultra fine point and a fine point
[04:26] <cyanid3> nice
[04:26] <cyanid3> you a student somewhere?
[04:27] <dcode> :-( unfortunately not at the moment
[04:27] <dcode> I'll be going back to school in Aug
[04:27] <cyanid3> ah
[04:27] <cyanid3> that's cool
[04:27] <dcode> University of Missouri - Rolla
[04:27] <cyanid3> awesome
[04:27] <dcode> I work for the federal government right now
[04:27] <cyanid3> interesting
[04:27] <dcode> heh
[04:28] <cyanid3> what do you do?
[04:28] <dcode> you're not a spy are you?
[04:28] <dcode> heh
[04:28] <cyanid3> haha
[04:28] <dcode> I'm Tier 2 Helpdesk....
[04:28] <dcode> but I'm the only Tier 2 guy
[04:28] <cyanid3> busy stuff
[04:28] <cyanid3> i'm guessing
[04:29] <dcode> mostly I manage the Cisco switches and routers, but I do alot of server scripting for the win admins that just don't get it
[04:29] <cyanid3> haha
[04:29] <dcode> and a dance as often as I can in the security circle
[04:29] <cyanid3> yeah
[04:29] <dcode> and when I get free time I work calls from end users
[04:29] <dcode> my best friend (my roommate from whom I stole the sharpies) is the security administrator
[04:29] <cyanid3> i'm majoring in computer information ssytems
[04:29] <dcode> I'm Comp Sci
[04:30] <cyanid3> yeah, i wanted to do that
[04:30] <cyanid3> i found out in high school that i hated math
[04:30] <dcode> I can do SysAdmin....I could do it for my career....but I enjoy programming far more
[04:30] <cyanid3> but i could kick butt with computers
[04:30] <dcode> yeah...that'd be a problem
[04:30] <cyanid3> heh
[04:30] <dcode> mostly depending on your Uni
[04:30] <cyanid3> programming is tough in the us though
[04:31] <cyanid3> only getting tougher too
[04:31] <cyanid3> i hope that you're talented : )
[04:31] <dcode> the first school I went to required Calc 1 & 2 only....UMR requires that plus 3, Linear Alg, Engineering Stat, Dif EQ....blegh
[04:31] <cyanid3> haha
[04:31] <dcode> there's still quite a demand for programmers...and I have a lot of paper experience too
[04:31] <cyanid3> yeah
[04:32] <dcode> i.e. I'm a federal technician for the military...
[04:32] <dcode> I'm in the military as a computer tech
[04:32] <dcode> I lead a team of computer tech in the military
[04:32] <cyanid3> that's cool
[04:32] <dcode> plus I'm a programmer for robotics team at UMR
[04:32] <cyanid3> i wanted to join the army
[04:32] <dcode> the Army has done alot for me
[04:32] <dcode> I'm in the Army National Guard
[04:33] <cyanid3> but i told the guy at the recruiting place the i had asthma and he escorted me to the door
[04:33] <dcode> yeah....that'll gig ya
[04:33] <danno> how can I write to a floppy as a user it wont let me unless I use sudo and my grandparents cant do that
[04:33] <cyanid3> i even took this initial placement test, and scored really well first
[04:33] <dcode> is it bad asthma?
[04:33] <cyanid3> not really
[04:34] <dcode> the big thing is...as long as you can complete Basic training without dying...you're good to go
[04:34] <cyanid3> dont they put you in some sort of a gas chamber?
[04:34] <dcode> but it's hard to get someone past the review board with asthma
[04:34] <dcode> yeah....you have to breath CS gas for about 3-5 seconds....
[04:35] <dcode> you learn how to make your gas mask work
[04:35] <dcode> I never quite thought of the effect of CS gas on someone with asthma
[04:35] <cyanid3> aha
[04:35] <dcode> I don't imagine it would be fun
[04:35] <cyanid3> think of - not being able to breathe- and you'll get close
[04:35] <dcode> you go in with your mask on....you have to take it off and say your name, rank, and SSN
[04:36] <dcode> and then you put it back on
[04:36] <cyanid3> what was it like?
[04:36] <danno> can someone load this page because it wont load for me and I really need to read it now: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-95950.html+floppy+write+ubuntu+-usb&hl=en
[04:36] <dcode> well...it effects everyone different...and it's a pretty diluted mix that they use for that training
[04:36] <cyanid3> makes sense
[04:36] <dcode> I'm lucky, in that, CS gas doesn't do anything to me except make my eyes water
[04:37] <dcode> I can breath it fine
[04:37] <cyanid3> haha
[04:37] <cyanid3> lucky bum
[04:37] <dcode> some people, it makes their sweat pores burn and eyes and they choke
[04:37] <cyanid3> wow
[04:37] <dcode> I mean....CS is a choking agent
[04:37] <dcode> danno, ubuntuforums is down
[04:38] <dcode> I've needed it several times this weekend to no avail
[04:38] <cyanid3> i think that i should have tried to help that person earlier with ssh problems
[04:38] <cyanid3> i'm having problems now
[04:38] <cyanid3> haha
[04:39] <cyanid3> it's saying not hostkeys available
[04:39] <dcode> wow....the dapper install cd is nice....I booted it before from USB...but the cd is nice
[04:39] <danno> dcode: i know
[04:39] <dcode> danno, nobody is gonna be able to load it
[04:39] <dcode> the server is offline
[04:41] <danno> dcode: ok thank u
[04:41] <dcode> anyone ever done a rescue on a 7" LCD screen at 1024x768?
[04:41] <dcode> you gotta squint :-p
[04:41] <yonkeltron> anyone notice that katapult doesn't do well with certain applications
[04:41] <yonkeltron> ?
[04:42] <cyanid3> what's the best way to start the ssh daemon in kubuntu?
[04:42] <eightiesk> can some one help me i dunno why my windows doesn't show on the panel.
[04:42] <cyanid3> i tried /etc/init.d/ssh start, and sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start
[04:43] <dcode> cyanid3: I do 'sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start'
[04:43] <dcode> eightiesk: there's an option in the panel for that
[04:43] <dcode> might check it
[04:43] <cyanid3> haha
[04:44] <cyanid3> the beauty of reading logs
[04:44] <eightiesk> dcode,  where at though
[04:45] <dcode> eightiesk: couldn't say....my box is dead right now
[04:45] <dcode> I'm giving it CPR as we speak....er....chat....er........type
[04:45] <eightiesk> thanks
[04:46] <kokujo> Can someone help me build WINE from source?  I follow the instructions from WineHQ and when I go to make the package it tells me "checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[04:47] <danno> when I google the only instructions for writing to a floppy in ubuntu mention using sudo.. wtf ?
[04:47] <bimberi> kokujo: you need to install build-essential but you can get later wine versions via apt-get ...
[04:47] <bimberi> !wine
[04:48] <bimberi> !+wine
[04:48] <ubotu> rumour has it, wine is a compatibility layer used by linux to let it run (some) windows programs.  It's available in universe but a more recent version can be installed by adding "deb http://wine.sourceforge.net/apt/ binary/" to your sources.list.  More info at http://www.winehq.com or for support go to #winehq
[04:48] <eightiesk> how do i get movies to play in kde?
[04:48] <kokujo> already have build-essential
[04:48] <kokujo> tried the sources.list, tells me there's no binary available
[04:48] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell eightiesk about multimedia
[04:48] <bimberi> kokujo: are you running i386?
[04:49] <kokujo> amd64
[04:50] <bimberi> kokujo: ah, ok, ignore the wine repos thing then, they're only for i386
[04:50] <kokujo> even the source?
[04:50] <dcode> ah bloody hell....I have a sneaking suspicion that the latest kernel initrd doesn't support xfs
[04:51] <bimberi> kokujo: no, the binaries.  I don't know about compiling for amd64
[04:51] <kokujo> okay
[04:51] <kokujo> at least I know it's not me now...partially anyways.  Thanks.
[04:52] <bimberi> kokujo: i believe there are ways though - when the forums come back you could do a search for 'wine amd64'
[04:52] <kokujo> okay
[04:52] <kokujo> thanks
[04:52] <bimberi> kokujo: as to the 'cannot create executables' - perhaps you could try compiling a 'Hello World' program
[04:52] <bimberi> kokujo: yw :)
[04:59] <dashinho> Hello. Anyone knows if using fonts in kde with antialiasing and style hingting none is bad for the eyes?
[05:12] <dcode> dashinho: like detrimental to your eyes?
[05:12] <dcode> or more difficult to see or what?
[05:13] <kosh> not for me it has not been
[05:13] <dcode> it's just a preference on eye candy
[05:13] <dcode> can somebody do me a HUGE favor and drop their /boot/grub/menu.lst on pastebin?
[05:14] <dcode> I think mines jacked up and would like to compare
[05:14] <kosh> mine would be far far too diferent sorry
[05:14] <dcode> well
[05:14] <dcode> here's my problem
[05:14] <dcode> my kernel and initrd lines look like this:
[05:14] <dcode> kernel/boot/vmlinuz-blah blah
[05:15] <dcode> shouldn't there be a space after kernel?
[05:15] <dcode> initrd is:  initrd/boot/initrd.img-blah
[05:16] <bimberi> dcode: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7503
[05:17] <hawking> does kopete support some kind of encryption?
[05:17] <dcode> ty bimberi
[05:18] <dcode> that wasn't the problem :-(
[05:18] <bimberi> dcode: yw :)  oh well :(
[05:18] <dcode> f##@@@##~!!~!!!!!!!11
[05:18] <dcode> why does this crap always happen to me?
[05:19] <dcode> I've been working on this box all weekend getting it tweaked so I have a nice devel environment....and now the shit won't boot
[05:19] <yonkeltron> are there any monospace fonts that are included with all KDE installs?
[05:20] <kosh> can you give a better description of what is wrong? when is it failing? what is the error message? what is the last thing you see it doing?
[05:20] <dcode> hawking: ywa
[05:20] <dcode> yes
[05:20] <kosh> out of curiosity are you running one of the precompiled ubuntu kernels or did you build your own?
[05:20] <hawking> dcode : how can i set it?
[05:21] <dcode> kosh, I updgraded to 2.6.15-13 (i think)...not sure on the micro....whatever version
[05:21] <dcode> might be -15
[05:21] <kosh> boot one of your older kernels then
[05:21] <dcode> no dice
[05:21] <kosh> the hal in breezy is not compat with 2.6.15
[05:21] <dcode> the initrd is ficked
[05:21] <kosh> why no dice? don't you leave the older kernels in the system?
[05:21] <dcode> yes
[05:22] <kosh> yeah so hit esc or whatever it is to get the grub menu and boot the older kernel directly
[05:22] <kosh> you can even use the commandline to write the grub lines directly
[05:22] <dcode> it fails during mount of the root filesystem
[05:22] <dcode> I can boot the old kernels
[05:22] <dcode> but the initrd is hosed I guess
[05:22] <kosh> so boot the older kernel with the older initrd
[05:22] <kosh> with grub you can boot any kernel on the system
[05:22] <kosh> not just the one configured
[05:23] <dcode> it doesn't work for some reason...I don't know why....
[05:23] <dcode> I'm aware of that
[05:23] <kosh> so boot one of the older ones like a 2.6.13 one which is what ubuntu comes with
[05:23] <dcode> I get: mount: Mounting /dev/hda1 on /root failed: Invalid argument
[05:23] <dcode> none of the kernels work
[05:24] <kosh> that is not a kernel or grub problem then
[05:24] <kosh> I am going to assume that you have one hardrive and it is an ide drive right?
[05:24] <dcode> I didn't say it was...I said it was a boot problem ;-)
[05:24] <dcode> right
[05:24] <dcode> b rb
[05:25] <dashinho> dcode, just wondering
[05:26] <kosh> I wonder how the heck you got that problem
[05:26] <dashinho> maybe it is bad, and i am using it ^^
[05:26] <kosh> the most common thing I see on google for that so far is a corrupted partition table
[05:27] <dcode> well...I think the problem is I'm using xfs...and for some reason that isn't playing well
[05:27] <dcode> hmm
[05:28] <dcode> dahinho....what are you talking about?
[05:28] <dashinho> really.. don't know
[05:28] <dashinho> lol
[05:28] <dcode> lmao
[05:31] <johnnybezak> hey guys whats a lightweight qt text editor?
[05:33] <dcode> cat ?
[05:33] <dcode> lol...j/k
[05:33] <dcode> that doesn't use Qt
[05:33] <dcode> :-p
[05:33] <hawking> dcode : how can i set this encryption thing in kopete?
[05:34] <dcode> hawking.....no clue...sorry
[05:34] <hawking> dcode : great thanks
[05:34] <hawking> I'll google
[05:34] <dcode> I just saw on kopete.kde.org that it supported it
[05:34] <hawking> ok
[05:42] <dcode> I take that back...my root fs is ext3
[05:42] <dcode> I'm using xfs on my server box
[05:51] <rr73> why when there is a power drop it  gets a new ip address via dhcp and wont get the old one?
[05:52] <rr73> i would really like to know why it is gay like that
[05:52] <frank23> rr73: that is what dhcp does: allocates IP adresses dynamically
[05:52] <rr73> no other distro that ive seen does that, they all go back to their normal dhcp address
[05:53] <rr73> then why are there gaps in the numbers?
[05:53] <rr73> it jumps around a bunch
[05:54] <whiskers> ive got a problem with kmenu, it wont save any edits that i make to it
[05:54] <whiskers> kubuntu v 5.10
[05:54] <rr73> try #kde yet?
[05:54] <whiskers> no one there answers
[05:55] <rr73> better then here
[05:55] <rr73> one of the best place i found my answeres
[05:55] <rr73> some which are not relating to kde
[05:55] <whiskers> i can try both :P
[05:56] <rr73> i like kubuntu but i am stuck with it
[05:57] <rr73> wish xandros could support my sata card and drive
[05:58] <whiskers> xandros isnt free
[05:58] <whiskers> :P
[05:58] <rr73> i dl the free version
[05:58] <rr73> yes it is
[05:59] <whiskers> the free one limits its use such as cd burning is capped at some rediculous speed
[06:01] <paelscrit> anyone know the easiest way to burn a dvx avi back onto a dvd?
[06:02] <rr73> not take it off
[06:02] <rr73> ?
[06:09] <hawking> anyone who managed to get kmail working for gmail here?
[06:19] <pussfeller> i had it working
[06:19] <pussfeller> there are instructions for it on the gmail site
[06:19] <pussfeller> used to be anyways
[06:19] <hawking> pussfeller : that doesn't work for sending mails
[06:20] <hawking> and for receiving ... the port written there is wrong
[06:20] <pussfeller> i had it working sending mails
[06:20] <pussfeller> its been a while tho, i finally just started using gmail itself cause its cooler
[06:21] <dcode> kosh: I fixed the problem, in case you were interested
[06:21] <hawking> hmm which port do you use?
[06:21] <hawking> they tell about 2 ports
[06:22] <dcode> kosh: the journal was screwed up on the ext3 partition
[06:22] <dcode> kosh: I followed the instructions here: http://lists.svlug.org/pipermail/svlug/2002-July/041193.html
[06:22] <johndarkhorse> hawking: choose the 'other' option on gmail.com instructions page
[06:22] <dcode> kosh: that fixed it right up....not sure what caused it tho...
[06:22] <pussfeller> i cant remember, 443? 003 maybe
[06:22] <pussfeller> err 993
[06:22] <hawking> the site says 465 or 587
[06:23] <pussfeller> those i gave are secure imap i think
[06:24] <hawking> so you mark ssl or tls?
[06:26] <hawking> the site says Use STARTTLS: Yes (some clients call this SSL)
[06:26] <hawking> I'm confused
[06:26] <pussfeller> try each one and see
[06:26] <pussfeller> or check what server supports
[06:26] <pussfeller> i remember it was a pain to get everything right....
[06:27] <dcode> 993 is SSL or TLS
[06:27] <dcode> TLS replaced SSL
[06:27] <dcode> it's like SSLv3
[06:31] <hawking> I see
[06:32] <hawking> I tried both doesn't work
[06:34] <robotgeek> hawking: gmail?
[06:34] <hawking> yes
[06:34] <hawking> I can't send mails
[06:35] <robotgeek> http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?answer=13287&topic=1555
[06:35] <robotgeek> are you trying to configure kmail?
[06:35] <hawking> yeah
[06:36] <hawking> robotgeek: that link is a mess
[06:36] <hawking> the ports are wrong there I guess
[06:36] <hawking> as port 950 is the port for incoming mail not 995
[06:37] <hawking> at least that worked for e
[06:37] <hawking> me
[06:37] <robotgeek> hmm, i use 995
[06:37] <robotgeek> http://groups.google.com/group/Gmail-Problem-solving/browse_thread/thread/2215d23c240ec78d/f8398747822a7e40?q=kmail&rnum=3#f8398747822a7e40
[06:38] <hawking> that's about receivin
[06:38] <hawking> I can receive
[06:38] <hawking> can't send
[06:39] <hawking> my setting is smtp.gmail.com:587 TLS
[06:40] <robotgeek> hawking: http://www.linuxforums.org/forum/t41552-the-complete-guide-to-using-gmail-with-thunderbird-mozilla-mail-evolution-and-kmail.html
[06:41] <hawking> that also tells nothing about it
[06:41] <hawking> I read those already
[06:42] <robotgeek> what error do you get, unfortunately i am not at my box right now
[06:42] <hawking> nothing special just says couldn't send mail
[06:45] <hawking> robotgeek : oh yeah got it :)
[06:45] <robotgeek> hawking: sorry, can't be of any help to you right now, i dunno anything new
[06:45] <robotgeek> hawking: great!
[06:45] <hawking> it works like charm now :))
[06:45] <hawking> thanks for helping
[06:46] <robotgeek> i've got move all my fetchmailrc and stuff to the box now
[06:53] <eightiesk> hey
[06:53] <robotgeek> hey eightiesk
[06:53] <eightiesk> thanks for the help earlyer.
[06:54] <eightiesk> do you know how i might update firefox to 1.5?
[06:55] <sampan> !firefox1.5
[06:55] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:55] <eightiesk> thnaks
[06:55] <sampan> sure :)
[06:56] <eightiesk> now another question why won't kaffine open my video files or music?
[06:56] <eightiesk> !kaffine
[06:56] <ubotu> eightiesk: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:56] <eightiesk> !kaffeine
[06:56] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, eightiesk
[06:56] <eightiesk> i dunno
[06:56] <eightiesk> lol
[06:56] <eightiesk> !kaffeine
[06:57] <whiskers> using kubuntu 5.10 with kde 3.4.3, my kde menu wont save any changes that i try to make to the kmenu
[06:57] <whiskers> when i run it from a console it gives an error
[06:58] <whiskers> libpng error Not a PNG file
[06:58] <whiskers> X Error BadWindow (invalid Window parameter) 3
[06:58] <robotgeek> eightiesk: codecs?
[06:59] <robotgeek> eightiesk, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:59] <eightiesk> no i get
[06:59] <eightiesk> errors in
[06:59] <eightiesk> totem too.
[07:00] <eightiesk> the error reads The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[07:01] <robotgeek> eightiesk: hmm, really weird
[07:01] <whiskers> ive already tried google, and the closest i can find is a reference to a ubuntu forums page, that wont come up :(
[07:02] <hatake_kakashi> anyone know how to reconfigure xorg config files?
[07:03] <robotgeek> hawking, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <robotgeek> hatake_kakashi, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:03] <hatake_kakashi> ta
[07:03] <hawking> robotgeek : no I won't :p
[07:03] <eightiesk> lol
[07:05] <eightiesk> robotgeek, any chance of helping me with the video output?
[07:05] <_enfact> its rediculous that amarok/kubuntu does not come out of the box being able to play mp3s
[07:05] <_enfact> these are the reasons people stop using linux when they try it
[07:05] <_enfact> jeez
[07:05] <eightiesk> lol
[07:05] <robotgeek> _enfact: licensing issues
[07:05] <eightiesk> thank makes sence
[07:05] <_enfact> figures
[07:05] <robotgeek> eightiesk: i don't quite know
[07:05] <eightiesk> hummm...
[07:06] <eightiesk> how would you install mp3 support?
[07:06] <whiskers> you need to dl the gstreamer.mad file
[07:06] <whiskers> and some adept-mpeg
[07:06] <whiskers> look in adept for it
[07:06] <_enfact> ive got it working but for a normal user
[07:06] <whiskers> its in one of the univere sources
[07:06] <_enfact> no way would they go through  that, even tho its simple, two packages
[07:07] <_enfact> open console --> dpkg -i package.deb
[07:07] <robotgeek> eightiesk, take a look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[07:07] <_enfact> no way normal people are going to even fathon how to do that, or do it in less than a couple hours
[07:07] <_enfact> what is the deal with the licensing, mp3 format needs a license?
[07:08] <eightiesk> sudo apt-get install  gstreamer0.8-mad right?
[07:09] <_enfact> no
[07:09] <whiskers> look for it in the adept
[07:09] <whiskers> just search
[07:09] <_enfact> a normal user would have to install the universal back port stuff
[07:09] <_enfact> its not there out of the box
[07:09] <_enfact> users would have to do further work to be able to see it there
[07:10] <_enfact> i might be on crack but didnt hoary play mp3's right out of the install/
[07:10] <whiskers> this kmenu thing, any ideas how to fix it?
[07:13] <kosh> _enfact: it is because of patent things
[07:13] <kosh> _enfact: it is not really legal to play mp3s without a license and ubuntu/debian are trying to remain in the legal clear
[07:13] <whiskers> who owns the licence?
[07:13] <kosh> franhauffer I think is the company
[07:14] <sampan> if it's so "ridiculous" start lobbying to change the law
[07:14] <sampan> or volunteer your money to pay the licensing fee :)
[07:14] <kosh> there are those doing it
[07:14] <kosh> I am hoping instead for the great lawyer purge :)
[07:14] <sampan> kosh, i know -- i was sorta addressing _enfact
[07:14] <amazoneveryday> Okay guys, I've got a good one... kdm won't let me log in, when I type in my username and password it just blanks the screen out as if it's starting a session and then spits me back out at the login prompt.
[07:15] <amazoneveryday> But I can switch to the terminal with ctrl-alt-f1 and log in fine there, and killall kdm, then startx and my session starts up fine
[07:15] <amazoneveryday> Any clues?
[07:15] <kosh> I think  that the 9mm solution will work better then lobbying at this point
[07:16] <sampan> kosh, hehehehe -- well just moving to open formats would help too -- support commercial options for OSS formats (ogg players instead of mp3-only)
[07:17] <kosh> I use ogg for all of my audio
[07:17] <kosh> that I rip from cds that I buy
[07:17] <sampan> amazoneveryday  sorry i have no clue (not ignoring you, just haven't a clue what would cause that)
[07:17] <kosh> but I only get actual cds not those drm cd like things
[07:17] <amazoneveryday> sampan thanks, just thought i'd ask
[07:17] <kosh> however the main reason I started doing that is that oggs at 500kbs sound better then you can get an mp3 to sound
[07:18] <sampan> amazoneveryday  keep asking -- at different times of day there are lots of different people in here -- i'm quite newb -- i'd imagine eventually if you're persistent someone will know
[07:20] <sampan> kosh *nod* i'm switching to ogg too.  though i still have a lot of legacy mp3 files (without cds) that i can't do without.  still, when i get a portable mp3 player, it'll for sure be one that plays ogg and isn't limited to patented formats
[07:20] <kosh> well I don't use portable players at all and have no intention of it right now
[07:20] <kosh> however I have been using oggs for years now
[07:21] <kosh> well see you later
[07:52] <EightiesK> !firefox
[07:53] <EightiesK> !firefox1.5
[07:53] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[07:54] <Potus_> good morning
[07:56] <hawking> how can i make someone who has sshed to my machine log off
[07:57] <EightiesK> how do i uninstall gnome and make kde deafult?
[07:57] <EightiesK> gnome errors.
[08:03] <_robin> how to use Metabar?
[08:06] <eightiesk> anyone know how i can uninstall gnome and reinstall it?
[08:06] <eightiesk> it won't start.
[08:06] <NeoChaosX> are you in kde?
[08:07] <eightiesk> yea
[08:07] <NeoChaosX> remove any packages starting with "libgnome"
[08:07] <NeoChaosX> then just install ubuntu-desktop again
[08:07] <_robin> how to use Metabar?
[08:08] <johndarkhorse> eightiesk: sudo apt-get install --reinstall ubuntu-desktop
[08:08] <NeoChaosX> Never heard of Metabar
[08:08] <NeoChaosX> johndarkhorse: That works on metapackages?
[08:08] <_robin> k
[08:09] <eightiesk> johndarkhorse, thanks is there ne way to completly remove it?
[08:09] <johndarkhorse> eightiesk: see NeoChaosX's method
[08:09] <eightiesk> ic...
[08:10] <eightiesk> i'm partial to some of my stuff like xchat and firefox i'll just keep it.
[08:16] <eightiesk> ne 1 know how to install  azureus
[08:16] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell eightiesk about azureus
[08:19] <eightiesk> umm
[08:20] <eightiesk> j2re1.4 libcommons-cli-java liblog4j1.2-java libseda-java libswt-gtk-3.1-java
[08:20] <eightiesk> whats them programs?
[08:20] <eightiesk> or how do i install them?
[08:23] <johndarkhorse> asking and quitting isnt gonna cut it
[08:25] <EightiesK> u there?
[08:27] <EightiesK> johndarkhorse:
[08:27] <johndarkhorse> EightiesK: dont ask and run
[08:27] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell EightiesK about javadebs
[08:28] <EightiesK> the electric flashed here.
[08:32] <dan_> hi guys
[08:32] <dan_> how are you?
[08:36] <dan_> why isnt anyone speaking?
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> because nobody has anything to say?
[08:37] <dan_> johndarhhorse: well, you should find something to say
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> dan_: i answer questions here about kubuntu
[08:37] <johndarkhorse> dan_: i yak mindlessly in #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:38] <johndarkhorse> dan_: which atm is much more lively
[10:07] <servjew> hello, im attempting to install kubuntu on a computer that already has windows xp on the drive, its an 80 gig drive, i want 15 gigs for linux, how do i proceed ? im at the partitioning method dialog, where it asks if i want to resize ide2 master and use freed space, or use the largest continuor free space or manually edit the partition table, how do i make it leave windows there and install linux >?
[10:08] <servjew> i havent defragged the thing though, maybe i should ?
[10:09] <Tm_T> servjew: yes you should
[10:09] <sampan> servjew  definitely defrag
[10:09] <johndarkhorse> servjew: the installer doesnt need a defragged drive to work, although you may wish to do it for your own comfort
[10:09] <sampan> i borked a win install once because i forgot to defrag
[10:10] <johndarkhorse> sampan: "win install" ?
[10:10] <sampan> johndarkhorse  the linux partition cut right over some key winxp files
[10:10] <sampan> when i resized it
[10:11] <sampan> or rather, because i didn't defrag, i had win files right where i cut the partition -- hence the repartitioning borked my winxp
[10:11] <sampan> it wasn't pretty
[10:11] <johndarkhorse> sampan: ntfsprogs homepage says defragging isnt necessary. ymmv
[10:12] <sampan> *shrug* all i know is my experience -- win was fine, i repartitioned without defragging and windows was no longer fine.
[10:13] <johndarkhorse> i've never had a problem with client machines
[10:15] <sampan> maybe i'm just unlucky -- automatix broke my ubuntu too, yet people come in and say it didn't break their ubuntu and works flawlessly -- experiential knowledge is, by definition, limited and tentative.
[10:15] <johndarkhorse> sampan: well, don't get me started on automatix
[10:15] <johndarkhorse> sampan: i saw some heinous use of code in it
[10:16] <sampan> i'm not meaning to -- i'm just suggesting that because some people report it working well, doesn't mean squat.  experiential knowledge is limited.
[10:17] <johndarkhorse> sampan: the thing about automatix is that its effects are not instantaneous, so "it didnt hurt my machine at all" fits at the time
[10:17] <johndarkhorse> sampan: automatix introduces unofficial sources into your sources.list and your machine WILL grind to a halt
[10:18] <sampan> johndarkhorse  i'm not disputing you.  i don't know what you're going on about.   my statement was intended to say that experiential knowledge (my own above, about winxp) is limited.  what more do want me to say?
[10:18] <johndarkhorse> sampan: nah, it's all good
[10:21] <servjew> ok, i've got a NTFS drive in a computer running kubuntu. its a second drive, main one is all linux. i want to format it in whatever linux uses. how do i do that ?
[10:24] <viviersf> ja gebeur nie baie met my nie
[10:24] <viviersf> so was nogals kwaai
[10:24] <viviersf> haha
[10:24] <viviersf> wtf
[10:24] <viviersf> stupid xchat
[10:24] <johndarkhorse> servjew: use gparted
[10:25] <viviersf> qtparted
[10:25] <viviersf> he using kde
[10:25] <viviersf> so he can use kde tool :)
[10:26] <servjew> using kubuntu with gnome, actually.. and blackbox
[10:26] <servjew> but i have kde installed
[10:27] <johndarkhorse> either one will work
[10:28] <servjew> i type that in a console ?
[10:28] <servjew> gparted ?
[10:29] <johndarkhorse> servjew: yes that's fine
[10:29] <servjew> command not found
[10:30] <johndarkhorse> servjew: try qtparted
[10:30] <servjew> command not found
[10:30] <servjew> i am running a default kubuntu breezy install + a few desktop environments
[10:31] <johndarkhorse> servjew: then 'sudo apt-get install qtparted"
[10:31] <servjew> ok
[10:32] <servjew> should i mount this drive somehow, i just stuck it in there.
[10:33] <servjew> qtparted reports only one
[10:33] <johndarkhorse> servjew: that is odd. did you run "kdesu qtparted" from the console ?
[10:34] <servjew> no
[10:34] <servjew> trying
[10:34] <servjew> i think its got it now
[10:38] <servjew> hm... in what dir do i find other drives ?
[10:38] <johndarkhorse> servjew: if your drive is ok, it should show up in the screen of qtparted
[10:39] <johndarkhorse> if it doesnt, close it up and i'll tell you something else you can try
[10:39] <servjew> yep it showed up and i clicked on format as ext3 it took like 2 seconds
[10:39] <servjew> so i guess it worked
[10:39] <johndarkhorse> did you hit 'apply' ?
[10:39] <servjew> but im  not too sure still how and where my files are
[10:39] <servjew> apply? i dunno, haha lemme see.
[10:40] <servjew> ok its working
[10:41] <servjew> doing something, at the leaast :)
[10:41] <servjew> ok
[10:41] <johndarkhorse> as long as there's no smoke, it's all good
[10:41] <servjew> it mentions a hell of a lot of used space
[10:41] <servjew> could it have kept all the files that were on it ?
[10:42] <johndarkhorse> doubtful, converting from ntfs > ext3 is quite destructive
[10:43] <servjew> whats with the two gigs of reported used space ?
[10:45] <servjew> and it keeps telling me that i should have unmounted all drive or something
[10:45] <ssdo> hello i am in ubuntu...how can i install  kubuntu?
[10:45] <robotgeek> ssdo: install the package "kubuntu-desktop"
[10:46] <ssdo> i wish to retain gdm the ubuntu usplash and not kdm nor the kubuntu usplash
[10:46] <johndarkhorse> ssdo: that is fine, you can do that
[10:46] <robotgeek> ssdo: hmm, gdm you can. i dunno how to do the ubuntu splash, but i'm sure others know
[10:48] <ssdo> johndarkhorse: if i do kubuntu-desktop im afraid i am killing my gnome ubuntu...if i do kde only i might miss the kubuntu packages..
[10:48] <ssdo> i want kubuntu to appear as one of the sessions in my gdm
[10:48] <johndarkhorse> ssdo: you'll be fine, i run x/k/ubuntu and still have my gdm
[10:49] <servjew> so, uuhm, how do i find local hard drives and files not in my home dir, and where do i find files that are in shared folders on a windows or linux machine on the network here ?
[10:49] <ssdo> johndarkhorse: the usplash? do i still keep my ubuntu usplash?
[10:52] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell servjew about cli
[10:53] <servjew> k i will check those out
[10:54] <_patrick> Is there a way to install the new firefox 1.5 instead of the old one on the repository?
[10:55] <johndarkhorse> !firefox15
[10:55] <ubotu> somebody said firefox15 was see the wiki at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion for information on how to install Firefox 1.5 from mozilla.org
[10:56] <kBCC> Yello :)
[10:57] <johndarkhorse> ssdo: the usplash is trivial to make into what you like
[10:57] <kBCC> Yesterday I packaged kFTPGrabber 0.7 for my Ubuntu machine and this morning I saw it was in the kubuntu suggested Packages list.
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: did you package according to the guidelines?
[10:58] <kBCC> That's sortof my question :)
[10:58] <kBCC> How can I check it, where should I submit it, who should test it?
[10:58] <johndarkhorse> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KubuntuPackagingGuide  kBCC
[10:59] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonPackagingMistakes/ChangingTheOrigTarball
[10:59] <ssdo> thanks guys.
[10:59] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: after you get it to debian standards for a deb, go here and upload it https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:00] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: however i'd hang out in #ubuntu-motu also
[11:02] <kBCC> Sorry about that..
[11:03] <kBCC> It's my first package so there's bound to be something wrong with it :)
[11:03] <kBCC> I'll check out https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU
[11:03] <robotgeek> kBCC: check with lintian
[11:04] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: check out the kubuntupackageing page
[11:04] <robotgeek> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DeveloperResources
[11:08] <kBCC> And what about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/REVU ?
[11:09] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: gah! sorry, thats the one i meant to send
[11:10] <johndarkhorse> i'm tired and in the office kBCC
[11:15] <kBCC> I'm supposed to be getting to work ;)
[11:16] <johndarkhorse> kBCC: then go, the code will be here when you return
[11:16] <vvatsa> hi#
[11:18] <kBCC> I'll do some reading before I'll do anything else :) Thanks.. I'll be back :)
[11:27] <orion_fr_24> how can I add virtual folder to proftpd
[11:28] <C2ODe> how to restore Uslash after compiling a vanilla kernel 2.6.15-1?
[11:30] <owner> you have to apply the bootsplash patch
[11:30] <owner> before you compile it
[11:31] <owner> c2ode check out this patch set http://iphitus.loudas.com/archck.php
[11:31] <C2ODe> owner: i check the url; thanks
[11:33] <C2ODe> bootspalsh or fbspalsh?
[11:33] <owner> fbsplash worked for me
[11:33] <owner> i still see the kubuntu splash when starting up
[11:33] <C2ODe> k
[11:37] <dbglt> 'ello
[11:37] <dbglt> ok
[11:37] <orion_fr_24> how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???
[11:37] <dbglt> What do I need to install to be able to build c/c++ packages from scratch?
[11:37] <dbglt> is there a development-tools package?
[11:37] <owner> build essential
[11:37] <dbglt> I need to compile my modem drivers
[11:38] <dbglt> so I can get onto the net on my kubuntu box :)
[11:38] <dbglt> owner, is that located on the install cd?
[11:38] <orion_fr_24> how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???
[11:38] <dbglt> owner, or must I download it seperately?
[11:40] <owner> not sure
[11:41] <dbglt> hrmm
[11:41] <dbglt> it is a package in "universe"
[11:41] <dbglt> can I download that now and install it later?
[11:41] <dbglt> (I'm on my windows box now)
[11:41] <dbglt> not too sure how the package management system works
[11:43] <dbglt> anyone?
[11:43] <owner> you can download it and install later
[11:43] <owner> but it might be on the cd
[11:43] <dbglt> eciadsl driver
[11:43] <dbglt> it isn't
[11:43] <dbglt> usually
[11:44] <dbglt> how do I download a package from packages.ubuntu.com?
[11:44] <dbglt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl
[11:44] <dbglt> I found it
[11:46] <owner> just click under i386
[11:46] <owner> or amd64 if you are using 64bit version
[11:46] <dbglt> oh
[11:46] <dbglt> :)
[11:46] <dbglt> owner, thanks
[11:47] <owner> np
[11:47] <dbglt> then, do I need to add it to a repository? Or how do I go about properly installing it?
[11:47] <dbglt> just use dpkg?
[11:48] <johndarkhorse> dbglt: if you direct d/l, use dpkg -i
[11:48] <johndarkhorse> dbglt: better to use apt-get
[11:48] <dbglt> I'm not connected to the net on that box
[11:48] <dbglt> I will be, once I install this package :)
[11:48] <johndarkhorse> dbglt: then make sure you have all the depends
[11:49] <dbglt> I'm not sure
[11:49] <dbglt> does base come with pppoe and pppd?
[11:49] <dbglt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl
[11:49] <dbglt> that is the package
[11:49] <dbglt> *base install
[11:51] <dbglt> they seem like pretty standard prereqs
[11:51] <dbglt> here's to hoping
[11:51] <dbglt> hopefully be back soon
[11:51] <dbglt> :)
[11:54] <Finite9> hi all!  Im trying to find an installation guide for Kubuntu but can only find docs. on using kubuntu, not installing it.  Can anyone give me some pointers?  Specifically, I need dual boot, but during install, grub wont install on my /boot partition
[11:56] <owner> install it to mbr finite
[11:56] <vvatsa> Finite9: MBR is your man
[11:57] <psylox> salut
[11:58] <Finite9> i dont want to overwrite WinXP mbr, because i want to be able to eventually remove kubuntu and in that case I will need ntldr intact.  I thought I could install grub on /boot (4th HDD partition) then copy file to C: drive and edit boot.ini
[11:58] <johndarkhorse> Finite9: ntldr is not in your /mbr
[11:58] <Finite9> but grub gives major error and wont install to /dev/hda4
[11:58] <johndarkhorse> Finite9: you may fdisk /mbr and return to a windows-only system any time you wish
[11:58] <mr-russ> Finite9: that will mean you need to do some complicated funness to get ntloader to boot your linux for you.
[11:59] <owner> there is a free program called fixmbr
[11:59] <psylox> anybody ar french here??
[11:59] <Tm_T> or you can use grub to boot windows
[11:59] <owner> i will post the link
[11:59] <owner> http://www.ambience.sk/fdisk-master-boot-record-windows-linux-lilo-fixmbr.php
[11:59] <owner> http://www.ambience.sk/experiments/MbrFix.exe
[11:59] <mr-russ> bye default ubuntu will detect xp and add a grub entry for it.
[11:59] <owner> it can restore windows xp mbr within windows
[11:59] <johndarkhorse> !fr
[11:59] <Tm_T> yes
[11:59] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[11:59] <owner> ive used it many times
[11:59] <psylox> ok merci
[12:00] <Finite9> yeah, I read that if I boot into recovery console off windows media CD then type FIXMBR all will be well, but i dont really trust it to work :)
[12:00] <owner> use mbrfix then
[12:00] <owner> it will work
[12:00] <Finite9> owner: thanks for the link
[12:00] <owner> np
[12:01] <johndarkhorse> Finite9: that will work, although i prefer a boot floppy from bootdisk.com with freedos fdisk
[12:01] <Finite9> i dont have a floopy with my laptop :/ makes boot disks a bit tough to work
[12:02] <Finite9> ahem.  floppy
[12:03] <johndarkhorse> Finite9: the cd will work, i just am an old school kinda guy
[12:06] <Finite9> thanks for the info, all!  I have nearly zero exp. with *nix, and i have a family laptop that I do not want mess up, so i didnt really want to install grub on windows partition
[12:06] <Finite9> but if i do, will win XP boot as normal from Grub ?
[12:09] <owner> it should add it to the grub menu
[12:09] <vvatsa> Finite9: yep, winXP will boot from grub no prob.
[12:10] <vvatsa> thats the way I have it with my work laptop
[12:10] <vvatsa> ubuntu installer detected my winXP and added an entry for it.
[12:10] <vvatsa> in grub
[12:11] <Finite9> thanks guys--will give it another try tonight!
[12:40] <ilba7r> !goobuntu
[12:40] <ubotu> ilba7r: No idea
[01:01] <C2ODe> error on configure: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. any ideas?
[01:06] <gnumdk> C2ODe: apt-get install libc6-dev ?
[01:07] <C2ODe> gnumdk: already installed
[01:09] <gnumdk> hmmm
[01:11] <ilba7r> C2ODe, are you sure it is not just a plain case where you are trying to write to a dir/file that you do not have write permission ofr
[01:12] <C2ODe> i'm root
[01:12] <cyanid3> I'm having issues starting the ssh deamon for the first time
[01:13] <cyanid3> i installed it, and then tried to start it (sudo /etc/init.d/ssh start) and it just says failed
[01:14] <cyanid3> am i missing something?
[01:18] <gnumdk> C2ODe: look at config.log
[01:18] <Blejdfist> Has anyone gotten KMail to work with S/MIME-certificates? Everything seems fine for me except when i try to sign a message i get "Signing failed: General error"
[01:22] <C2ODe> gnumdg: where is? in /var/log?
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> C2ODe: find / -name config.log
[01:23] <hatake_kakashi> or locate
[01:25] <cyanid3> i got it figured out
[01:25] <Skrot> Which CPU frequency daemon (dynamical frequencyadjustments based on load) is the best for a Intel Celeron laptop?
[01:27] <_erik> hello kubuntu peepz
[01:27] <_erik> can anyone here help me? im having trouble with my floppy drive
[01:27] <hatake_kakashi> as in?
[01:28] <_erik> i cant save files on my floppy
[01:28] <_erik> it says access denied
[01:28] <C2ODe> hatake_kakashi & gnumdk: it needs klcc; what is?
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> _erik: you need to set the uid and gid to give yourself access, or be in a certain group to access it or maybe you mount it as read only
[01:29] <_erik> i already tried this at the konsole: sudo mount -o rw -t vfat /dev/fd0 /media/floppy
[01:29] <_erik> and i checked everything there is to check at the user manager
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> C2ODe: I didn't see what was the question, I saw that gnumdk suggested to look at the config.log file and you asked where, I suggested programs to locate it
[01:30] <hatake_kakashi> _erik: and does the mount say that the floppy disk is mounted as rw?
[01:30] <_erik> yes
[01:30] <_erik> but when i try to access at the gui
[01:30] <ZhiChiang> Hi, guys, I need help on my ubuntu/kubuntu.. I encounter error upon booting the OS... error msg at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:30] <_erik> it says access denied
[01:30] <ZhiChiang> help pls :) thanks
[01:31] <C2ODe> hatake_kakashi: the config.log say: klcc: command not found
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> _erik: either your login does not have enough permission, or you need to set the mount options for floppy disk, such as adding uid=65534,gid=65534 *example only*
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> C2ODe: klcc? wait, what program is this for?
 how do i set the mount option, how will i know what uid or gid to use?
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> _erik: check your uid and gid by doing 'id' and try appending that into the /etc/fstab file
[01:33] <_erik> what do you mean?
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> type 'id' in the console window
[01:33] <C2ODe> hatake_kakashi: the prog is splashutils: http://dev.gentoo.org/~spock/projects/gensplash/
[01:34] <gnumdk> C2ODe: can you paste your config.log http://rafb.net/paste/ ?
 my gid and uid are both 1000
 what shall i do now?
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> you will see uid=(blah) gid=(blah) .. now open /etc/fstab file with your favourite editor (you need to be root to edit that file) and append that beside default.. so it goes like default,uid=1000,gid=1000 for example
[01:35] <C2ODe> http://rafb.net/paste/results/FVPVpi20.html
[01:35] <_erik> i dont see defailt
 i dont see default
[01:35] <_erik> # <file system> <mount point>   <type>  <options>       <dump>  <pass>
[01:35] <_erik> proc            /proc           proc    defaults        0       0
[01:36] <_erik> /dev/hda1       /               ext3    defaults,errors=remount-ro 0       1
[01:36] <hatake_kakashi> err
[01:36] <_erik> /dev/hda6       /home           ext3    defaults        0       2
[01:36] <_erik> /dev/hda5       none            swap    sw              0       0
[01:36] <_erik> /dev/hdb        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[01:36] <_erik> /dev/fd0        /media/floppy0  vfat    rw,user,noauto  0       0
[01:36] <C2ODe> gnumdk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/FVPVpi20.html
[01:36] <gnumdk> C2ODe: go on #gentoo to have anwser ;)
[01:36] <hatake_kakashi> well, see rw,user,noauto? add to the end of it rw,user,noauto,uid=1000,gid=1000
[01:37] <robotgeek> _erik: please don't paste here :)
[01:38] <C2ODe> gnumdk: i can make a better question... the initial prob is that: when i recompile the kernel (2.6.15-1) i lost my usplash boot loading sceen... how to restore... someone tell me to install splashutils that is a gentoo package...
[01:38] <nalioth> _erik: do you read the /topic when you enter irc channels?
 hey itts workin now
 no... y???????
 ur angel thank you
 ur an el thank you
[01:39] <nalioth> _erik: use a pastebin for pasting please. pasting into channels is rude
 how do i do that?
[01:39] <nalioth> _erik: the /topic in irc channels is full of information that will only benefit you
[01:39] <nalioth> _erik: type /topic <enter>
 my apologies... im new here, im new to kubuntu, im new to everything here
[01:40] <nalioth> _erik: ah, then the /topic is a good first thing to learn
[01:40] <nalioth> most every irc channel has a /topic and all are good to read
 again, my apologies... it wont happen again
[01:41] <_erik> :) peace dude
[01:51] <gnumdk> C2ODe: no
[01:51] <gnumdk> C2ODe: you need to activate framebuffer interface in your kernel
[01:52] <gnumdk> C2ODe: and ubuntu package for splashsceen is usplash
[01:53] <ZhiChiang> Hi guys, I encounter problem on boothing my Ubuntu/Kubuntu, The error msg is at pastebin: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:53] <ZhiChiang> hope you could help me.
[01:54] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: fresh install?
[01:55] <C2ODe> gnumdk: the framebuffer is activated and before the kernel reconfiguration usplash is up and running
[01:56] <gnumdk> C2ODe: hmm
[01:58] <gnumdk> C2ODe: can you paste your .config and /boot/grub/menu.lst somewhere?
[01:58] <ZhiChiang> gnumdk: nopes I have been using kubuntu for a month now.. I just burn some dvd, and turn off my laptop... then after 30mins I thought of checking my mails,,, now it didnt boot :(
[01:59] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: is hda2 your root partition?
[01:59] <ZhiChiang> gnumdk: im not sure.. how can I check that?
[02:00] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: have you windows on this laptop?
[02:00] <C2ODe> gnumdk: http://rafb.net/paste/results/WpnJf976.html
[02:00] <ZhiChiang> yes... I dual boot with windows xp for security purposes.. like this.. :)
[02:01] <C2ODe> gnumdk: if you want i can send u my actual kernel conf
[02:01] <gnumdk> C2ODe: hare http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[02:01] <gnumdk> here
[02:02] <ZhiChiang> any?
[02:02] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: do you remember what file system you are using with linux?
[02:02] <C2ODe> gnumdk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7517
[02:03] <ZhiChiang> gnumdk: ext3 on linux... ntfs on windows, fat32 on data partions
[02:03] <ZhiChiang> i have partition magic... i will check
[02:04] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: it seems to be a problem with your linux partition
[02:05] <ZhiChiang> gnumdk: I still can see my ext3 partitions
[02:05] <gnumdk> C2ODe: is it official ubuntu kernel?
[02:05] <ZhiChiang> gnumdk: and i can see the disk space used.. and remaining.
[02:05] <jerris> does anybody have any idea on how to reset the video drivers?
[02:06] <C2ODe> gnumdk: not original.. original kernel stop at 2.6.10
[02:06] <gnumdk> ZhiChiang: what is the partition position?
[02:06] <C2ODe> gnumdk: it's an original kernel from kernel.org :)
[02:06] <gnumdk> C2ODe: can i see your .config
[02:07] <C2ODe> gnumdk: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7518
[02:08] <C2ODe> gnumdk: my config is: new kernel with the original kubuntu kernel config; i only change the processor type from 386 to pentium M :)
[02:09] <C2ODe> gnumdk: and with the old kernel (same conf as new) the usplash works fine
[02:09] <ZhiChiang> gnumdl: ntfs, ext3, ext3, extended, swap, fat32
[02:09] <C2ODe> gnumdk the reason for my update is: my laptop had a bug with old kernel :(
[02:10] <gnumdk> C2ODe: CONFIG_FB_VGA16=y, CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE=y , it's  a probleme with your initrd but i don't use this and i can't help you, put this to yes and it will cork
[02:10] <gnumdk> work
[02:11] <ZhiChiang> brb
[02:11] <gnumdk> C2ODe: do you have a live cd( knoppix)
[02:11] <gnumdk> ?
[02:11] <gnumdk> arfh
[02:11] <gnumdk> ok
[02:11] <gnumdk> he is away
[02:11] <gnumdk> C2ODe: last message was not for you ;)
[02:12] <C2ODe> gnumdk: ok, i'll try recompiling the kernel putting .CONFIG_FRAMEBUFFER_CONSOLE from module to static. and let u know. thanks a lot
[02:17] <sorush20> some one help please I have these installed and here is the error http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/518953, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7519
[02:17] <orion_fr_24> how can i check kde version
[02:17] <orion_fr_24> ?
[02:18] <gnumdk> kde-config --version
[02:18] <orion_fr_24> thx
[02:18] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: i am on kde 3.4.3
[02:19] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: i d like KDE 3.5
[02:19] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: how can i update ?
[02:19] <robotgeek> sorush20: maybe libqt3-mt-dev
[02:20] <robotgeek> sorush20: you do seem to have that installed though
[02:20] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: breezy?
[02:20] <robotgeek> sorush20: what are you trying to build?
[02:21] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: yep
[02:21] <gnumdk> http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:22] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok but it says  gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[02:22] <gnumdk> it's ok
[02:22] <gnumdk> you need to add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main to /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:23] <gnumdk> and run apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:23] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: will it update to dapper ?
[02:23] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: i just want update KDE not to dapper
[02:23] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: is it possible
[02:23] <gnumdk> no, it's package for breezy
[02:24] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok
[02:24] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: lemme try
[02:24] <sorush20> robotgeek: knights
[02:24] <robotgeek> sorush20: is that in the repos?
[02:25] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: i ve got breezy main restricted will it be enough ??
[02:25] <sorush20> guys will its is but just trying to build form source pluse the fact that I have this error I might not be able to build form source, robotgeek
[02:25] <sorush20> also is kubuntu helping sourceinstall project ?
[02:25] <robotgeek> sorush20: sudo apt-get build-dep knights
[02:25] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: or do i need to add brezy main without restricted
[02:26] <sorush20> robotgeek: ...&& sudo apt-get install knights?
[02:26] <robotgeek> sorush20: sudo apt-get install kdelibs4-dev libqt3-compat-headers
[02:26] <robotgeek> sorush20: then build as usual, all it does is install the dependencies for you
[02:27] <robotgeek> sorush20: or you can install the one in the repos the usual way :)
[02:27] <sorush20> robotgeek: I have both of those packages..
[02:28] <sorush20> anyone else here use knights?
[02:28] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: you just need to add this  http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[02:28] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: don't change anything else
[02:28] <sorush20> just wanted to find out how to add engins?
[02:28] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: even if if I already have it but restricted ?
[02:28] <robotgeek> sorush20: okay, maybe try the build-dep command
[02:31] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: how can you already have it?
[02:31] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: there is no restricted module for kde35
[02:31] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: I add it manually maybe
[02:31] <sorush20> I have gnome and kde installed but there seemes to be prolems with refreshing the kde menus? its not happening when I install a program, but this is not the case if the computer has only kubuntu install from fresh any ideas?
[02:32] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: anyway it seems to be updating a lot of KDE stuff so i think it s fine
[02:32] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: thankx for your help
[02:33] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: would you advise to relaunch X or reboot ?
[02:33] <hubbadub> has anyone gotten Alpha Centauri to work in Cedega?
[02:34] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: relaunch X
[02:34] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: logout and login
[02:34] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: thx
[02:34] <MrRio> ive changed my gtk theme in a kde control panel, and now i cant change it using gnome-theme-manager
[02:34] <MrRio> any ideas?
[02:34] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: or ctrl - alt - bakspace ?
[02:34] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: logout
[02:34] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok
[02:35] <nalioth> robotgeek: yes ctrl-alt-bksp
[02:35] <nalioth> loggin out and in won't restart the xserver
[02:35] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: well i think it s better yes
[02:35] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: i do agree
[02:36] <orion_fr_24> There was an error commiting changes. Possibly there was a problem downloading some packages or the commit would break packages.
[02:36] <orion_fr_24> from adep updater
[02:36] <orion_fr_24> ??
[02:36] <orion_fr_24> sounds bad
[02:36] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: are you running dapper?
[02:36] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: no breezy
[02:36] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: apt-get -f install
[02:36] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: use commande line
[02:37] <gnumdk> adept sux
[02:37] <orion_fr_24> ok
[02:37] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: any advice ?
[02:37] <gnumdk> adept is cool for adding soft, not for upgrade kde ;)
[02:38] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok so what should i do now ? i just ran apt-get -f install just ran
[02:38] <gnumdk> apt-get dist-upgrade
[02:38] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok it running now
[02:39] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: i ll keep you updates
[02:39] <orion_fr_24> updated
[02:39] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: use synaptic
[02:39] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: synaptic is for gnome
[02:39] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: but it works better than adept
[02:39] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: dont wanna install non KDE apps
[02:40] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: really ?
[02:40] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: then use konsole apt-get
[02:40] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: ok i ll do that
[02:40] <orion_fr_24>  /var/cache/apt/archives/konq-plugins_4%3a3.5.0-0ubuntu0breezy1_i386.deb
[02:40] <orion_fr_24> E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)
[02:40] <nalioth> adept is rather new on the scene and will need many revisions before it approaches the usability of synaptic
[02:41] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: apt-get -f install
[02:41] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: agin ????
[02:41] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: when you get errors like that, in a konsole manually install that file with dpkg
[02:41] <gnumdk> orion_fr_24: yes ;)
[02:41] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok
[02:41] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: then you will get a detailed error msg instead of a generic one
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok done
[02:42] <gnumdk> apt-get dist-upgrade :)
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: now ?
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok no erroirs this time
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> will restart X and come back to you
[02:42] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: ok ?
[02:42] <gnumdk> ok
[02:43] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: cool
[02:46] <orion_fr_24> well it seems to work fine
[02:46] <orion_fr_24> gnumdk: thx a bunch
[02:47] <pulchi> I have a schoolwork :P I need a linux/unix to install and it has to fit to one CD, 700MB. As I understand kubuntu is just ~625? am I right?
[02:50] <robotgeek> pulchi: yes, it will fit on one cd
[02:50] <pulchi> robotgeek: thanks :) is it easy to install? never used linux before
[02:51] <ccc_> pulchi: it's very easy
[02:51] <robotgeek> pulchi: yes, it is very easy to install.
[02:51] <robotgeek> pulchi: it will even detect windows if it is installed :)
[02:52] <pulchi> nice :D but I thinks we are having formatted disk's with nothing on it at all :)
[02:53] <robotgeek> then it's very easy pulchi
[02:53] <pulchi> okey, thats nice. thanks
[02:57] <sweet_kate> how do i extract a rar archive?
[02:58] <arafat> sweet_kate: unrar x <archive>
[03:00] <visik7> hi
[03:00] <visik7> how can I enable preview of video in konqueror ?
[03:10] <vvatsa> hey guys, does any one know which repos. do I need for lame
[03:10] <nalioth> vvatsa: enable universe and multiverse and don't ask any more questions like that
[03:11] <vvatsa> nalioth: I have them enabled, I won't ask in the future
[03:12] <nalioth> vvatsa: then you have lame at your beck and call
[03:22] <triode> hello I'm trying to setup a wireless pcmcia card (NETGEAR WG511), and can't get it working, can anybody help me please?
[03:22] <robotgeek> triode, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsWirelessNetworkCards
[03:22] <robotgeek> what does that page say?
[03:23] <robotgeek> triode: also look at wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs , i believe there is a page on that particular card
[03:24] <triode> robotgeek: thanks, I'm checking it out right now
[03:26] <triode> robotgeek: it says that it has support out of the box, but it didn't work for me, I have set up a few things with ndiswrapper, and maybe I should undo that and try to make ubuntu (using kubuntu) recognoise it.... what do you think?
[03:27] <robotgeek> triode: i think there are a couple of versions of the card floating around
[03:27] <triode> i have v1
[03:28] <robotgeek> triode: which chipset?
[03:29] <triode> i dont know, how can i find out?
[03:31] <robotgeek> triode: lspci -v | less
[03:31] <triode> i got  "network controller: intersil corporation intersil isl3890 prism gt prism duet rev01"
[03:31] <triode> subsystem netgear: unknown device 4800
[03:32] <triode> flags: bus master, medium  devsel, latency 80, irq 9
[03:32] <robotgeek> triode: okay, enuf
[03:32] <triode> ok :)
[03:32] <robotgeek> i think you have a prism chipset, but i think yours might be "special" card
[03:33] <robotgeek> triode: can you paste the contents of "lsmod" to the pastebin (/topic)
[03:34] <endo602> my desktop stallss randomly
[03:35] <triode> how can I use pastebin?
[03:35] <endo602> anyone know what is up with it?
[03:35] <robotgeek> triode: just paste in your text on the website, and give me the url
[03:38] <triode> ok
[03:39] <triode> robotgeek: this will take 1 minute, i'm using two computers (one with the problem, one I'm typing with)
[03:39] <robotgeek> triode: okay, just look for prism
[03:39] <triode> oh ok
[03:41] <setuid> Anyone know how to get kde4 in Breezy?
[03:42] <setuid> Latest KDE in Breezy is 3.4.3
[03:42] <triode> robotgeek: I got it
[03:42] <setuid> Which is pretty old now
[03:42] <robotgeek> triode: then you should be able to connect from cli/kwifimanager
[03:42] <triode> it has a line that says "prism54     47752      0"
[03:42] <robotgeek> triode, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[03:43] <triode>  robotgeek: when I type "iwconfig" i get one "eth1" with wireless extensions
[03:44] <triode> but it says "NOT READY!" next to all the rest of the information
[03:44] <robotgeek> triode: hmm, no clue. try with the ndiswrapper card (some prism cards have a known problem)
[03:44] <robotgeek> they did something funky with the chipset
[03:44] <setuid> Anyone?
[03:45] <triode> robotgeek: at one point i got the leds to light up (in one of my attempts for ndiswrapper)... but I have undone all changes
[03:45] <triode> robotgeek: kwifimanager loads, but finds no networks
[03:45] <robotgeek> triode: if iwconfig cribs, you have a problem
[03:46] <triode> robotgeek: so I should try with ndiswrapper then?
[03:47] <robotgeek> triode: yes
[03:47] <triode> robotgeek: does it matter that the wireless card is recognized as "eth1"?
[03:48] <robotgeek> triode: nope
[03:49] <triode> robotgeek: should I just change where ndiswrapper howto says "wlan0" with "eth1"?
[03:50] <robotgeek> triode: it may change after you load ndiswrapper, gimme a minute
[03:50] <robotgeek> you did say version 1?
[03:50] <triode> yes
[03:56] <robotgeek> triode: okay, try to remove and plug your card in. it should work correctly automatically
[03:58] <triode> robotgeek: ok, hold on
[03:59] <triode> I just did a quick ndiswrapper while I was waiting... and now after rebooting I get both leds ON!
[03:59] <triode> but I get nothing from kwifimanager
[04:00] <robotgeek> triode: what does iwconfig say?
[04:00] <triode> that there are no cards with wireless extensions
[04:00] <triode> and eth1 is listed
[04:00] <triode> weird thing is both LEDs are solid on.
[04:01] <triode> I'll undo the ndiswrapper thing, since it should work without it, right?
[04:02] <triode> robotgeek: will just commenting the ndiswrapper line in the /etc/modules file be enough or must I restore the /etc/modules/network/interfaces as well?
[04:03] <robotgeek> triode: yes
[04:03] <robotgeek> triode: just the line in /etc/modules is enuf
[04:03] <triode> ok, I just commented the /etc/modules line... restarting
[04:05] <triode> it's took quite a while in the "setting up network interfaces" part of the boot
[04:06] <robotgeek> triode: hmm, i'll wait
[04:06] <triode> robotgeek: I removed ndiswrapper, IWCONFIG says eth1 has wireless extensions
[04:07] <robotgeek> triode: good
[04:07] <triode> robotgeek: kwifimanager is next, right?
[04:08] <Skrot> Hi, when playing a wmv stream with mplayer I get a lot of:
[04:08] <Skrot> Ingen ordinre forelesninger vren 2006, kun nettbasert.
[04:08] <Skrot> err
[04:08] <Skrot> "alsa-space: xrun of at least 0.063 msecs. resetting stream5.1% 28 0 25%"
[04:08] <Skrot> Is there something to do about that?
[04:08] <triode> robotgeek: can't find any networks
[04:08] <robotgeek> triode: iwlist eth1 scan
[04:09] <triode> robotgeek: "no scan results"
[04:09] <triode> one of the LEDs on the card started blinking
[04:10] <robotgeek> triode: sudo rmmod prism54
[04:10] <triode> robotgeek: the information I added to /etc/network/interfaces is still present, should I remove it?
[04:10] <robotgeek> triode: no need
[04:10] <triode> ok
[04:10] <triode> ok, did the rmmod
[04:11] <triode> robotgeek: now the card is no longer displayed (at all) in  IWCONFIG
[04:12] <robotgeek> triode: good, now sudo modprobe prism54
[04:13] <triode> robotgeek: THAT DID IT!! I am connected!!!!
[04:13] <robotgeek> triode: sweet
[04:13] <triode> robotgeek: it seems that it picked up the information from /etc/network/interfaces because it already had the Key, channel, and ESSid in it
[04:14] <triode> robotgeek: THANKS!!! I really appreciate it, just to wrap up: was "rmmod prism54" and "modprobe prism54" all I had to do from the start?
[04:14] <triode> robotgeek: seeing that I didn't use the ndiswrapper in the end
[04:15] <triode> robotgeek: wait, it's not working anymore :(
[04:16] <robotgeek_down> triode: hey, it's me again
[04:17] <robotgeek_down> triode: my shell is down, so i had to do this :)
[04:17] <triode> robotgeek_down: Kwifimanager doesn't settle for a channel frequency...
[04:17] <triode> robotgeek_down: kwifimanager is jumping from channel to channel
[04:18] <robotgeek_down> triode: hmm, there's another program called network-manager, it's way better than kwifimanager
[04:19] <triode> typing network-manager in a konsole didn't work, how do i run it?
[04:20] <robotgeek_down> triode: you need to install it first, sudo apt-get install network-manager
[04:20] <triode> ok I'll have to connect ethernet... give me 1 min
[04:22] <robotgeek_down> kk
[04:24] <triode> robotgeek_down: I installed it
[04:25] <triode> robotgee1: how do I run it?
[04:26] <robotgeek_down> triode: nm-applet --sm-disable
[04:27] <triode> robotgeek_down: it's running... making the green led on the card blink
[04:28] <robotgeek> triode: it should show up in your panel
[04:28] <triode>  robotgeek: you're right... it says no network connection
[04:29] <Skrot> If I want to do "modprobe ipw2200 led=1" instead of  "modprobe ipw2200" at boot, what do I do? :)
[04:29] <robotgeek> triode: click and connect
[04:31] <triode> robotgeek: now it says "preparing device eth1 for wireless network 'aaa' (aaa is network essid)
[04:33] <robotgeek> triode: hmm, might take a while the first time
[04:35] <triode> robotgeek: ok, I'll wait :)
[04:36] <robotgeek> triode: done?
[04:36] <triode> robotgeek: nope, keeps doing it
[04:37] <jjesse> argh i moved some folders around in kontact and now the filters don't move them correctly, how do i go about editing those filters?
[04:38] <hawking> I can't play movies with kaffeine well... it's just slow but with totem they work cool... what may be the problem?
[04:39] <_triode> robotgeek: should I remove the changes I did to /etc/network/interfaces?
[04:46] <^rob^> hello
[04:46] <triode> robotgeek: ?
[04:46] <^rob^> how's kde 3.5 (breezy) doing? -- stable // crash often ??
[04:46] <robotgeek> triode: no, no need for that, AFAIK. however, try it :)
[04:47] <Tm_T> ^rob^: stable, atleast should be
[04:47] <^rob^> Tm_T: do you have it?
[04:47] <Tm_T> ^rob^: I do have 3.5 since beta
[04:47] <Tm_T> now in dapper
[04:48] <^rob^> ah, what the heck - i'll give it an update ;) - if crashes - so be it!
[04:48] <^rob^> Tm_T: did you feel the difference - from 3.4 to 3.5 ? - run faster? - works better?
[04:50] <triode> robotgeek: rebooting is taking a very long time
[04:50] <Tm_T> faster and better imo
[04:51] <robotgeek> triode: hmm, ctrl + c
[04:51] <iantec> how will my numlock automatically be on ? on start up....
[04:52] <kkathman> iantec: i noticed that ubuntu is one of the very few distros that dont do this and its irritating
[04:52] <iantec> really?
[04:52] <iantec> arg tough luck
[04:52] <robotgeek> iantec: numlockx
[04:52] <iantec> what does that mean?
[04:52] <triode> robotgeek: I'm stuck in the kubuntu boot screen (the very first splash screen) the nic's led blinks for a while, then stops, then blinks for a while again
[04:53] <kkathman> yep, SUSE, RH, Mandriva all turn the Num Lock on at boot
[04:55] <aeon17x> Weird... I just installed kde-core, and I'm currently looking for the Volume Control applet, but I can't find it.
[04:55] <triode> robotgeek: I tried rebooting without the wireless nic inserted and it's still taking a very long time "setting up network intervaces"
[04:55] <triode> (typo:"interfaces")
[04:55] <robotgeek> triode: i am all outta idea
[04:55] <iantec> does synaptic have the flash plugins for firefox? and does it have fire fox 1.5? in its repository?
[04:55] <jorik> how can isee my total up/download kbps ?
[04:56] <kkathman> aeon17x:  its under k-menu, multimedia on my box
[04:56] <triode> robotgeek: hold on, It passed this time
[04:56] <kkathman> aeon17x:  or alt-f2 and type kmix
[04:56] <triode> robotgeek: inserting card
[04:56] <aeon17x> kkathman: what if I want the panel applet that will show up as a tray icon?
[04:57] <larsivi> aeon17x: it does if you minimize it
[04:57] <kkathman> aeon17x: kmix I believe minimizes to the tray
[04:58] <triode> robotgeek: kwifi manager now shows me as conneted to my network...
[04:58] <larsivi> most KDE apps do if you let them ...
[04:58] <aeon17x> Oh, I'm guessing I don't have it because I only installed kde-core.
[04:58] <triode> robotgeek: but I don't have a local ip
[04:59] <aeon17x> I should install the whole kubuntu package then.
[04:59] <larsivi> aeon17x: kubuntu-desktop
[04:59] <kkathman> aeon17x: yes...you should do the entire kubuntu-desktop
[05:00] <robotgeek> triode: iwconfig, please
[05:01] <triode> robotgeek: eth1 IEEE 802.11b/g ESSID: "aaa" Nickname:"aaa"  (both essid and nickname are correct)
[05:02] <nlindblad> 23GiB seeded!
[05:02] <robotgeek> triode: maybe you should check if your router is seeing you :)
[05:02] <triode> Mode: managed Frequency: 2.437 Accesspoint: 00:12:88:5B...etc
[05:02] <nlindblad> 24GiB even
[05:02] <triode> robotgeek: good idea
[05:02] <triode> robotgeek: let me try that
[05:05] <iantec> sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run is this right? for the driver of my vid card
[05:06] <pixelfairy> whats an easy way to edit the kde menus? (gui or command line)
[05:06] <WarriorSlayer> hy guys, i've installed today kubuntu 5.10 amd64 in my pc, and it stops when loading the hotplug subsystem
[05:06] <pixelfairy> WarriorSlayer: stops completely?
[05:06] <WarriorSlayer> pixelfairy yep
[05:07] <pixelfairy> like not for 5 seconds
[05:07] <WarriorSlayer> nope
[05:07] <WarriorSlayer> i've waited for minutes
[05:07] <triode> robotgeek: only 1 computer (this one) is seen by the AP
[05:07] <andrzej> j wont write program in pascal. how program j must use?
[05:08] <robotgeek> triode: hmm, i dunno what's the issue. maybe ask in #ubuntu
[05:08] <eidolon> has anyone had problems with ssh forwards under kubuntu?  for soem reason mine have just plain stopped working through a few updates.
[05:10] <triode> robotgeek: thanks... nm-applet keeps 'preparing device' :(
[05:12] <paines> hi
[05:14] <paines> for some reason kmail isn't filtering any spam mails. spamassassin is installed and activated and running. but nothings is filtered.
[05:17] <grunk> hi
[05:21] <eidolon> is anyone having these problems iwth ssh port forwardung on Dapper?
[05:21] <eidolon> or is ayone doing it, and it works?
[05:25] <eidolon> okay, this is a fault in Kubuntu dapper.
[05:25] <eidolon> where do i report bugs?
[05:29] <kkathman> eidolon: https://launchpad.net/malone
[05:29] <nlindblad> eidolon: please submit as much details as possible
[05:30] <eidolon> i'm looking in bugzilla atm regarding open bugs.
[05:30] <eidolon> there's some commentary about this.
[05:30] <WarriorSlayer> hy guys, i discovered my problem
[05:30] <WarriorSlayer> my kubuntu is loading the capture driver module
[05:30] <WarriorSlayer> and it's crashing
[05:30] <eidolon> i'm not 100% sure this is it directly, because my interfaces file looks correct.
[05:31] <WarriorSlayer> has any way to boot from the kubuntu cd to my partition to comment this module?
[05:34] <eidolon> http://pastebin.com/519208
[05:34] <eidolon> that's my interfaces file.  any reason lo wouldn't go active?
[05:34] <eidolon> on boot?
[05:36] <eidolon> umm, the launchpad.net site does not hava  distribution for 'Kubuntu'
[05:36] <eidolon> should i juse use Ubuntu?
[05:37] <eightiesk> hey
[05:37] <nlindblad> eidolon: they share the same base system
[05:37] <eightiesk> !limewire
[05:37] <nlindblad> eidolon: most of their bug-reportings and translations are intergrated
[05:37] <ubotu> I guess limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[05:38] <eidolon> ok
[05:39] <ClayG> any ideas why gnome might not be saving my settings? I installed from the "net install/minimal" and selected x and gnome and it works fine but does not save the changes ive made
[05:39] <ClayG> and in the begginning it tells me that a few applets have crashed do i want to restart them
[05:39] <eightiesk> how do i make my clock am/pm format?
[05:40] <eightiesk> ?
[05:42] <WarriorSlayer> hey ppl how i boot my kubuntu partition from the install cd?
[05:43] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: what's the problem that you are trying to fix?
[05:43] <seashell11> EightiesK: right click clock >date and time format > Time & Dates tab > change time format to PH:MM:SS AMPM
[05:43] <WarriorSlayer> JohnFlux editing the rc.modules
[05:44] <WarriorSlayer> to disable the capture device
[05:44] <eightiesk> and wqho does it keep reseting its self to gmt?
[05:44] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: boot the install cd, then switch to a console and mount the partition
[05:44] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: do you know how to do that?
[05:44] <nlindblad> seashell11: !
[05:44] <WarriorSlayer> JohnFlux nope :/
[05:45] <WarriorSlayer> the module of my capture device is making kubuntu crash in the boot
[05:45] <seashell11> nlindblad: hi! ;-)
[05:45] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: you have grub?
[05:45] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: probably you do.
[05:45] <WarriorSlayer> JohnFlux for sure
[05:46] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: boot the kernel with the option:  init=/bin/bash    at the end of it (edit the grub entry)
[05:46] <JohnFlux> then linux will boot straight into bash instead of loading modules etc
[05:46] <WarriorSlayer> cool
[05:47] <JohnFlux> do: mount / -o remount,rw     to put the partition in write mode
[05:47] <WarriorSlayer> u mean when the cd asks for boot
[05:47] <WarriorSlayer> i place init=/bin/bash?
[05:47] <JohnFlux> no no, when you boot from the hard disk
[05:47] <JohnFlux> at the moment, when you boot from the hard disk, grub asks you what to boot
[05:47] <JohnFlux> yes?
[05:47] <WarriorSlayer> yep
[05:47] <nlindblad> seashell11: how are you?
[05:48] <JohnFlux> if you select the menu option, then press 'e', it will show you a 4 lines or so.  select the 'kernel ....'  line
[05:48] <JohnFlux> and press 'e'  again
[05:48] <JohnFlux> and go to the end of that line, and add on that init=/bin/bash    thing there
[05:48] <JohnFlux> then escape, and press 'b' to boot
[05:48] <seashell11> nlindblad: just awesome, of course!! how about yourself?
[05:48] <WarriorSlayer> cool
[05:48] <WarriorSlayer> thanks man gonna try this
[05:49] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: remember to mount / -o remount,rw
[05:49] <nlindblad> seashell11: well, it's cold outside
[05:49] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: when you want to reboot, you should mount / -o remount,ro
[05:49] <nlindblad> seashell11: and especially in the mornings
[05:49] <nlindblad> seashell11: and today I was waiting for the bus
[05:49] <WarriorSlayer> JohnFlux after the boot ends i place the mount thing?
[05:49] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: yes
[05:49] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: it will boot very quickly
[05:49] <JohnFlux> WarriorSlayer: a few seconds
[05:49] <WarriorSlayer> k
[05:50] <WarriorSlayer> thanks again man :] 
[05:50] <JohnFlux> it bypasses init
[05:50] <JohnFlux> btw it bypasses login too, so no root password needed ;) :)
[05:50] <nlindblad> seashell11: but it never came
[05:50] <eightiesk> seashell11, iot is already set to that.
[05:50] <JohnFlux> useful to remember if you don't know the password
[05:50] <seashell11> nlindblad: its like 26 degrees F here, and snowing like crazy
[05:50] <seashell11> EightiesK: did you restart X since you changed it?
[05:51] <kkathman> howdy seashell11 :)
[05:51] <eightiesk> it was already liek that.
[05:51] <seashell11> hi kkathman your still alive and kickin?
[05:51] <nlindblad> seashell11: I realized it wouldn't come, after 40 minutes
[05:51] <eightiesk> seashell11,  it was already liek that.
[05:52] <seashell11> nlindblad: shoot that sucks!
[05:52] <kkathman> seashell11: absolutely, were their reports otherwise?
[05:52] <seashell11> EightiesK: try restarting X (Ctrl+Alt+Backspace)
[05:52] <seashell11> kkathman: no :-P
[05:53] <nlindblad> seashell11: it totally ruined my day
[05:53] <nlindblad> seashell11: and I had just been awake for an hour
[05:53] <orion_fr_24> hi everybody I m looking for a news reader for nntp server any advice
[05:53] <seashell11> I should say!! nlindblad that wouldn't put me in the best of moods
[05:54] <nlindblad> seashell11: I still feel a little pissed
[05:54] <seashell11> nlindblad: I sure don't blame you, but hey where are you from?
[05:55] <nlindblad> seashell11: Sweden
[05:55] <seashell11> oh right you told me that
[05:55] <nlindblad> seashell11: yeah
[05:55] <seashell11> nlindblad: I just couldn't remember if it was you for sure or not
[05:56] <eightiesk> it worked
[05:56] <eightiesk> thanks
[05:56] <eightiesk> !realplayer
[05:56] <ubotu> I guess realplayer is http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[05:56] <seashell11> EightiesK: no prob
[05:56] <eightiesk> now could u help me with a firefox error i get?
[05:56] <seashell11> what error?
[05:57] <eightiesk> just a sec
[05:57] <eightiesk> !firefox1.5
[05:57] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[05:58] <seashell11> EightiesK: just for your information, you can also start a private chat with ubotu to ask him questions like that
[05:58] <seashell11> hey kkathman, where are you from?
[05:59] <kkathman> seashell11: Texas
[06:00] <seashell11> im from upstate ny :-) got some cousins living in Texas though, been through there a few times, what part of Texas?
[06:00] <kkathman> seashell11:  Dallas area
[06:01] <kkathman> I have some friends in NY as well, most are either in Syracuse/surrounding area, or at West Point
[06:01] <seashell11> yep, thats where my cousins live, somewhere right around dallas, that's kinda interestin
[06:02] <eightiesk> seashell11, it reads eightiesk@ubuntu:~$ sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f firefox-1.5.tar.gz
[06:02] <eightiesk> Password:
[06:02] <eightiesk> tar: firefox-1.5.tar.gz: Cannot open: No such file or directory
[06:02] <eightiesk> tar: Error is not recoverable: exiting now
[06:02] <eightiesk> tar: Child returned status 2
[06:02] <eightiesk> tar: Error exit delayed from previous errors
[06:02] <seashell11> I'm about 7 miles from syracuse right now
[06:03] <seashell11> EightiesK: did you cd into the directory where you downloaded the file to first?
[06:03] <eightiesk> oh ok
[06:03] <seashell11> kkathman: I guess it is a small world!!! :-)
[06:06] <kkathman> seashell11: indeed
[06:06] <seashell11> EightiesK:  and then you might have to put a ./ in front of the firefox-1.5.tar.gz (sudo tar -C /opt -x -z -v -f ./firefox-1.5.tar.gz)
[06:06] <kkathman> eightiesk:  please dont paste in the channel, use the pastebin, please
[06:09] <seashell11> ubotu tell EightiesK about pastebin
[06:15] <eightiesk> how do i install azurez?
[06:15] <iantec>  hmmm how come my gaim has no sounds? the sounds are enabled and it is not in mute
[06:16] <Riddell> iantec: what's in /etc/libao.conf ?
[06:17] <eightiesk> iantec,  mines the same way...
[06:18] <iantec> default_driver=esd
[06:19] <Riddell> iantec: change esd to alsa09
[06:19] <iantec> in libao?
[06:19] <Riddell> in /etc/libao.conf
[06:19] <iantec> cant save i dont have the access.
[06:20] <eightiesk> nor do i
[06:20] <Riddell> iantec: what editor are you using?
[06:20] <eightiesk> i'm using kate.
[06:21] <iantec> kate
[06:21] <hawking> can i read system mail with kmail?
[06:21] <Riddell> iantec: in konqueror right click and Actions->Edit as Root
[06:22] <dan_> hi guys
[06:23] <iantec> it said something that there was an error initiating the sound i thik so it went back to the null device?
[06:23] <dan_> whats with the silence?
[06:23] <iantec> not sure but its kinda like that
[06:24] <iantec> well...found a way to amke it sound
[06:24] <iantec> in preferences sound metheod i chose arts...
[06:25] <iantec> would that matter? how come in libao it is in esd but when i choose esd in preference even the test button wont work only arts works
[06:26] <iantec> ok thanks for the help going to sleep now....perhaps tomorrow...i need to fix my sound driver when i play music its terrible...
[06:26] <hawking> friends can someone do me a favor and paste his "ls /var/log/ output to somewhere? I accidently removed it and now I have some probs
[06:26] <iantec> thnx for the help
[06:26] <eightiesk> can u give me the file to edit to get sound in gaim ??
[06:27] <eightiesk> electricity went out for a second.
[06:27] <iantec> actually i just went to preferences
[06:27] <iantec> then to sounds, then sound method, scroll down choose arts
[06:27] <iantec> its not that good but at least it works for the mean time
[06:29] <eightiesk> what file are u spose to edit?
[06:29] <eightiesk> ??
[06:29] <eightiesk> iantec, what files were you spose to edit
[06:30] <iantec> na got it back to default
[06:30] <iantec> try it
[06:31] <iantec> good luck hopeit works...be going now good nyt everyone!
[06:32] <eightiesk> !gaim
[06:32] <ubotu> I guess gaim is http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[06:32] <larsivi> Riddell: kdesdk is broken too
[06:32] <eightiesk> !sound
[06:32] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[06:33] <eightiesk> !gaimsound
[06:33] <ubotu> eightiesk: My cat's name is Mittens!
[06:33] <eightiesk> :-\
[06:34] <eightiesk> ne 1 here willing to help me?
[06:34] <Riddell> larsivi: how so?
[06:35] <larsivi> it depends on kspy which depends on kdelibs4-dev
[06:35] <Riddell> eightiesk: /etc/libao.conf
[06:35] <larsivi> Riddell: In breezy, that is
[06:36] <kkathman> Greetings Riddell :)
[06:38] <ilba7r> i am gona do a presentation on a datashow (projector) from my linux box. Do i need to install a program or make a configuration to direct the presentation to the data show or would it be done automatically
[06:38] <Riddell> larsivi: KDE 3.5?
[06:38] <larsivi> Riddell: Yes, sorry
[06:38] <Riddell> larsivi: ok, I'll make sure that gets sorted for kde 3.5.1 this week
[06:38] <larsivi> Riddell: great :)
[06:39] <eightiesk> Riddell, what do i need to edit to?
[06:40] <Riddell> 17:19 < Riddell> iantec: change esd to alsa09
[06:40] <Riddell> eightiesk:  ^^
[06:40] <eightiesk> thanks the electric went out here.
[06:41] <apokryphos> Riddell: packs to test for 3.5.1?
[06:41] <apokryphos> ..or not yet?
[06:41] <eightiesk> it should work now right?
[06:41] <mart> is it just me, or is cups broken in Flight-3?
[06:44] <gentoo> hi leute, spricht hier jemand deutsch? hab gerad kubuntu installiert. wollte ein audiostreem aus dem internet abspielen ber amoroK aber er spielts nicht ab. er ldt immer bis 100 % u. fngt dann wieder bei 0 % an. Kennt jemand dieses problem?
[06:44] <mart> #kubuntu-de?
[06:44] <kkathman> !de
[06:44] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:44] <gentoo> join #kubuntu-de
[06:45] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which file or line i have to comment in kubuntu to disable the hotplug subsystem load my bttv card?
[06:45] <Riddell> apokryphos: still building, maybe later
[06:45] <apokryphos> sure, let me know whenever
[06:46] <mart> CUPS in dapper, anyone? Dead or alive?
[06:46] <gentoo> danke, thank you
[06:46] <Riddell> apokryphos: are you on dapper or breezy?
[06:46] <Riddell> mart: half alive
[06:46] <mart> Riddell: half dead, here :(
[06:46] <apokryphos> Riddell: breezy on one (the one here), and dapper on another. Need stability here for various reasons; i.e. this one never closes ;)
[06:48] <cplusplus> hi
[06:49] <cplusplus> drive can't be mounted. mount: only root can mount /dev/hda5 to /mnt/Daten
[06:54] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which file or line i have to comment in kubuntu to disable the hotplug subsystem load my bttv card?
[06:55] <hawking> does anyone know how to read system mail with kmail?
[06:57] <mart> hawking: Configure->Accounts->Receiving. Add. Local mailbox. Then the path to your mbox.
[06:58] <gerardocb> cplusplus: well... there it is... only root can do that... sudo mount /dev/hda5 /mnt/Daten
[06:59] <cplusplus> wdf?
[06:59] <hawking> mart : thx
[06:59] <cplusplus> i want to mout the hda5 when i boot automatically!!
[06:59] <cplusplus> but how can i login as root user?
[06:59] <gerardocb> Did you put the line on fstab already?
[06:59] <seashell11> mart: how do you know what the path to your local mailbox is?
[06:59] <nlindblad> gerardocb: correction, add in user to /etc/fstab and the mount would be possible without root permissions
[06:59] <nlindblad> gerardocb: user as in "user"
[06:59] <cplusplus> like /dev/sda1       /media/sda1     vfat    user,noauto     0       0 ?
[07:00] <nlindblad> cplusplus: yeah
[07:00] <mart> seashell11:  well, /var/mail/something might be a good place to try
[07:01] <cplusplus> hm
[07:01] <cplusplus> whats drwxr-xr-x ?
[07:01] <cplusplus> permission
[07:01] <cplusplus> chmod 777 ?
[07:01] <gerardocb> 755
[07:01] <mart> seashell11: depends how mail is set up on your system
[07:02] <tidalwav1> Hi, all...can anyone give me any clue about how to get the Kubuntu installer to recognize an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller?
[07:02] <tidalwav1> The installer crashes because it can't mount the CD drives.
[07:02] <tidalwav1> nobody? :(
[07:03] <nlindblad> hang on
[07:03] <tidalwav1> gladly
[07:03] <cplusplus> is sshd available for kubuntu?
[07:03] <eightiesk> i acidently set gaim buddy list to be 20 px tall instead of 200 in the window spicefix settings how do i mchange it cuz it closed everytime i open it.
[07:03] <tidalwav1> sshd is available--sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:05] <tidalwav1> nlindblad: was that 'hang on' directed at me?
[07:05] <mlehrer> does kubuntu allow emacs key bindings in entry fields?  E.g. ctrl-a moves the cursor to the beginning of the line, ctrl-k deletes from the cursor to the end, ctrl-u deletes to the beginning
[07:05] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: yepp
[07:05] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: I've found a driver for it in a kernel patchset
[07:05] <tidalwav1> well how would I go about getting/using it?
[07:05] <nlindblad> don't know for sure if that patch has been applied to the official kernel series
[07:05] <cplusplus> is sshd available for kubuntu?
[07:06] <nlindblad> cplusplus: yes
[07:06] <cplusplus> where?
[07:06] <tidalwav1> cplusplus: see above
[07:06] <nlindblad> cplusplus: as stated a few lines up by tidalwav1
[07:06] <cplusplus> apget
[07:06] <cplusplus> ?
[07:06] <mart> [18:02]  <tidalwav1> sshd is available--sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[07:06] <cplusplus> thx
[07:06] <seashell11> mart: thanks! i got it working
[07:06] <tidalwav1> np :)
[07:06] <tidalwav1> so yeah, nlindblad...how/where do I use /find the driver :P
[07:06] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: the 2.6.10-ac2 kernel patchset had a driver for it
[07:07] <mart> seashell11: cool
[07:07] <nlindblad> "o       IT8212 IDE support                              (Alan Cox)"
[07:07] <mart> tidalwav1: are you using expert mode?
[07:07] <nlindblad> oops, wrong controller
[07:07] <tidalwav1> nope :P
[07:07] <tidalwav1> yeah, that is the wrong one
[07:07] <tidalwav1> IT8211 :P
[07:07] <tidalwav1> I'm trying to install dapper flight 3, if that helps at all
[07:08] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: apperantly IT8211 and IT8212 are the same
[07:08] <tidalwav1> okay, so because I'm stupid, could you explain how to get/use the driver in the installer?
[07:09] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: http://www.iteusa.com/pc/LinuxDriverSrc_it8212_092005-09.zip
[07:10] <nlindblad> Both chips seem to be very close (but 8211 has'nt raid support), and they even share the same driver availabled on ite website
[07:10] <tidalwav1> that link gives me a 404 error
[07:11] <nlindblad> tidalwav1: damn these old mailinglists
[07:12] <tidalwav1> nlind: chat in dialog window?
[07:12] <nlindblad> http://metawire.org/~nlindblad/patches/add-support-for-it8212-ide-controllers.patch
[07:12] <tidalwav1> nlind: or not? :P
[07:12] <nlindblad> best I could come up with
[07:13] <tidalwav1> so..how do I use that when installing?
[07:13] <tidalwav1> I don't have a clue :P
[07:14] <vge> i have somehow lost "audio icon" from my panel, the one that you can add or decrease master volume, how can i restore it?
[07:16] <_tonio> ciao a tutti
[07:17] <_tonio> c'  qualcuno che pu aiutarmi a configurare la lettura degli mp3 con amaroK e Kubuntu 5.10?
[07:18] <cplusplus> how can i install a driver form my hp printer?
[07:18] <_tonio> ma  il canale di ubuntu italia?
[07:21] <_tonio> c' nessuno?
[07:23] <_tonio> ciao a tutti!
[07:23] <_tonio> gerardocb oggi stavo parlando con te?
[07:24] <gerardocb> _tonio, no
[07:24] <cplusplus> how can i change my ip adress at kubuntu?
[07:24] <tidalwav1> cplusplus, what do you mean?
[07:24] <cplusplus> i only know how to do it in gentoo;)
[07:24] <_tonio> ma oggi c'eri anche tu?
[07:24] <cplusplus> i wanna change my ip adress at the kubutu pc
[07:25] <mlehrer> cplusplus: use the point and drool interface, there should be a System -> Administration -> Networking option
[07:25] <mlehrer> glad to see you are abandoning gentoo
[07:26] <cplusplus> sudo systemstettings?
[07:26] <cplusplus> there is no administration!
[07:28] <mlehrer> what options do you have in the System menu?
[07:29] <mlehrer> btw there is a kubuntu channel you can use
[07:29] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?
[07:29] <_tonio> gerardocb:posso disturbarti un attimo solo?
[07:29] <gerardocb> _tonio, I don't speak italian
[07:29] <gerardocb> (actually, just a few words...)
[07:30] <cplusplus> oh dcop communication error !?
[07:30] <cplusplus> i tried: kdesu systemsettings
[07:30] <cplusplus> and entered the passwd
[07:33] <phlewis> greetings
[07:33] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?
[07:35] <phlewis> I installed latestd kubuntu on a Dell laptop. Install went well. Only problem is the linksys pcmcia wireless networking is not working.
[07:35] <pulver> hi! just installed mplayer. whats the best way to install all different kinds of codecs?
[07:36] <mlehrer> you could start with w32codecs
[07:36] <phlewis> pcmcia tab in control panel doesn't see anything in the pcmcia slot
[07:36] <mlehrer> xvid is important too, that might not be there by default
[07:37] <phlewis> bootup shows pcmcia module is loaded at startup
[07:38] <phlewis> anybody have any suggestions for getting the system to recognize this linksys pcmcia wireless card?
[07:39] <pulver> mlehrer: can't find it in adept manager... did enable universe repo and added the line multiverse not sure if thats the right way to do it though
[07:39] <mlehrer> yeah w32codecs was hard to track down for me, i had to do a google search for "w32codecs breezy" or something like that
[07:40] <cplusplus> how can i install a driver form my hp printer?
[07:40] <pulver> mlehrer: thanks
[07:40] <cplusplus> hp officejet 5610
[07:40] <kobayazen> pulver, http://ubuntuguide.org/#codecs I think you'll find what you want
[07:43] <phlewis> it's a standard linksys wireless networking card
[07:43] <WarriorSlayer> ppl which file i have to edit to disable some modules of my kernel?
[07:51] <pulver> kobayazen: typing 'apt-get install w32codecs' says the package is not available.. going through /etc/apt/sources.list ... maybe i messed something up, first day using kubuntu its pretty cool though
[07:58] <seashell11> ubotu tell pulver about w32codecs
[07:58] <seashell11> pulver: read what ubotu sent you
[08:12] <pulver> seashell11: thanks man
[08:13] <seashell11> pulver: np :-)
[08:20] <Traum> I just switched from Suse to Kubuntu.  Where do I find Gui for starting/stopping services like ftp, Samba?
[08:21] <cplusplus> howhow can i install a driver form my hp officejet 5610?
[08:23] <owner> dpes hp make linux drivers
[08:23] <owner> goto their website
[08:23] <cplusplus> ok
[08:24] <cplusplus> ich hoff hp hat nen linux druckertreiber
[08:25] <cplusplus> verdammt doch nit;-(
[08:25] <cplusplus> no.....shitt
[08:25] <cplusplus> they doesnt have linux driver
[08:29] <luiz> i can't get my sound to work
[08:31] <Traum> Wieso wir mein "root password" nicht akzeptiert wenn ich es via GUI benutze, aber bei terminal login klappt es?
[08:32] <PupenoL> How do I get my Kubuntu to mount the local NTFSs as word redeable ? only root can read it.
[08:32] <Traum> how come my root password is not accepted via GUI, but it works when login via terminal?
[08:33] <luiz> Hey, PupenoL, try to look for it at www.ubuntuguide.org it's for Hoary but works
[08:33] <PupenoL> thanks.
[08:33] <luiz> I got the same problem a few months ago
[08:34] <luiz> I can't get my sound to work. Any ideas? (AD1888 + ALi M5455)
[08:36] <luiz> It worked on Hoary pretty  fine, but doesn't work on breezy, and seems not to work here (dapper), too
[08:37] <paines> hi
[08:37] <luiz> hi
[08:37] <triode> i need help. on my other computer, I can't browse the web, but when booting the "sync to ubuntu clock" works
[08:37] <paines> my kmail doesn't filter spam mail. spamassassin is installed and working
[08:38] <triode> I have been trying to setup  a pcmcia wireless network card, but desisted, now I lost the WIRED connection. what can I do?
[08:44] <cplusplus> hm my amarok cant play mp3 files...didnt solve the problem
[08:44] <cplusplus> i istalled xine...
[08:44] <paines> cplusplus: did you install libmad
[08:44] <paines> libmad0
[08:44] <cplusplus> no
[08:44] <paines> try that
[08:44] <paines> it is an mpeg lib
[08:45] <cplusplus> apget what?
[08:45] <paines> libmad0
[08:45] <paines> and restart amarok
[08:45] <cplusplus> apget -install lubmad ?
[08:46] <paines> apt-get install libmad0
[08:46] <cplusplus> not found
[08:47] <cplusplus> network problem
[08:47] <paines> add universe and multiverse repositories to your sources.list
[08:54] <flowers> hellow
[08:56] <_robin> Hi Ya, can ya guys help me? i needa get rid of the ubuntu packages on ma pc, i need the kubuntu packages, and the gnome apps and all lost, how to do that?
[08:57] <ccc_> ubuntu packages = kubuntu packages
[08:58] <_robin> ubuntu packages = synaptic, gcalc, xchat, ubuntu packages = adept, speedsomething, konversation
[08:58] <_robin> so tell me, how to get rid of those gnome packages? ;p
[08:58] <cplusplus> can i start the network config wizard? there was a wirzard at installation of kubuntu
[09:00] <_robin> so tell me, how to get rid of those gnome packages? ;p
[09:04] <cplusplus> i have a problem i can ping the router but i am not able to ping google.at !?!
[09:06] <ccc_> _robin: those are gnome/kde packages, they have nothing to do with ubuntu or kubuntu in particular. :) i would remove the applications i don't want by hand. possibly you could use sudo apt-get remove --purge ubuntu-desktop
[09:07] <cplusplus> any idea?
[09:08] <cplusplus> i think its a problem of dns
[09:08] <feistel> hi
[09:08] <feistel> why I can't see the trash icon in the desktop?
[09:11] <cipi604> hello
[09:11] <mailo> hello
[09:11] <mailo> caio
[09:11] <mailo> ciao
[09:11] <mailo> i italian
[09:11] <cipi604> it's working all fine i don;t have problems :))
[09:11] <_robin> ccc_: doesn't work either
[09:11] <cipi604> so no questions...
[09:11] <mailo> sorry no englisch
[09:12] <cipi604> italiana?
[09:12] <mailo> italiano
[09:12] <cipi604> scuze
[09:12] <mailo> de nada
[09:12] <cipi604> e fredo nel italia?
[09:13] <mailo> un po
[09:13] <mailo> un pochito
[09:13] <cipi604> siete fortunati
[09:13] <cplusplus> can i start the network config wizard?
[09:13] <mailo> perche
[09:13] <mailo> perche'? siamo fortunati
[09:13] <larsivi> !it
[09:13] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[09:13] <cipi604> perche nel romania sono -15 C
[09:14] <cipi604> un po al est
[09:14] <mailo> come faccio
[09:14] <mailo> a trovare altri server
[09:14] <mailo> a ok grazie
[09:14] <mailo> garzie
[09:14] <cipi604> per che?
[09:15] <cipi604> il server per irc?
[09:22] <triode> cplusplus: I have a similar problem
[09:22] <cplusplus> did you solve it?
[09:23] <triode> cplusplus: did you just happen to do an upgrade on kde or something similar? that's the very last thing I could do before the LAN broke
[09:23] <cplusplus> first it works
[09:23] <cplusplus> but i have to change the ip...
[09:23] <cplusplus> because i already used it
[09:23] <triode> i can't even see the router :(
[09:23] <cplusplus> i am reinstall kubuntu now
[09:23] <cplusplus> i can ping the  router
[09:24] <triode> but I am positive that the problem started right after I upgraded to KDE3.5 (and who knows what else) and then, after rebooting the LAN was gone
[09:24] <triode> did you upgrade
[09:24] <triode> ?
[09:27] <weedar> For some reason programs have started sigsev'ing, I havent' installed anything new either. Any tips as to why this is happening?
[09:30] <Knowerrors> Anybody here use dialup modem for internet access, and have v92 modem on hold / net waiting , working on Linux?
[09:34] <almien> do I need to do anything special to upgrade to the latest version of (k)ubuntu using apt-get?
[09:36] <dbglt> hello everyone :) I finally got my net working with kubuntu :)
[09:36] <bushito> chats dead =P
[09:36] <almien> welcome back to the net then, dbglt
[09:37] <dbglt> I have a few questions to ask, if you folks wouldn't mind - they are pretty basic, but I'm new to ubuntu and the .deb concept :p
[09:37] <triode> cplusplus: try this command:  " sudo dhclient "and see if you can browse the web.
[09:37] <dbglt> how do I go about adding a repository? I want to find an Australian one close to me to add
[09:37] <bushito> this is not ubuntu =O is Kubuntu
[09:37] <bushito> =)
[09:37] <dbglt> I'm using kubuntu
[09:37] <dbglt> same thing
[09:37] <dbglt> :
[09:37] <bushito> o no
[09:37] <bushito> =O
[09:37] <dbglt> I want to update my kde to 3.5 as well
[09:38] <bushito> ehh press alt + f2
[09:38] <bushito> and put
[09:38] <bushito> aptitude
[09:38] <bushito> ...
[09:39] <dbglt> that is installed packages, no?
[09:39] <dbglt> I want to add a new internet repository :)
[09:39] <bushito> yeah you can modify repositories there
[09:39] <dbglt> ah
[09:39] <dbglt> I don't know of one
[09:39] <dbglt> does it provide a list?
[09:41] <dbglt> I think I'm using the kubuntu before dapper...
[09:41] <bushito> hhhmmm
[09:41] <bushito> let me check to guide you
[09:41] <dbglt> I installed via the Kubuntu 5.10 install CD
[09:41] <dbglt> bushito: thanks
[09:42] <bushito> okey
[09:42] <bushito> you using kubuntu right?
[09:42] <dbglt> aye
[09:42] <bushito> pres alt + f2
[09:42] <bushito> and then put adept
[09:42] <bushito> xD
[09:43] <bushito> the manager should com up
[09:43] <bushito> you need to put your su password
[09:43] <dbglt> aha
[09:43] <dbglt> there is a list
[09:43] <dbglt> greyed out :)
[09:43] <dbglt> good good
[09:43] <bushito> then press adept
[09:43] <bushito> in the top meny
[09:43] <bushito> and go to manage repositories
[09:43] <bushito> menu*
[09:44] <dbglt> au.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[09:44] <bushito> and voila =O you can modify repositories
[09:44] <dbglt> it is "breezy" and "universe"
[09:44] <dbglt> will that suffice ?
[09:44] <bushito> eehh
[09:44] <bushito> change universe
[09:44] <bushito> for multiverse
[09:44] <bushito> xP
[09:44] <bushito> you get more package that way =O
[09:46] <lusus> man i every time i log in.. i get this battery error.
[09:46] <lusus> .39493727290727% or something
[09:46] <lusus> i have no battery!
[09:46] <bushito> (o_o) lol
[09:46] <bushito> xD
[09:46] <bushito> you got a LTP??
[09:46] <bushito> lusus?
[09:47] <lusus> LTP?
[09:47] <lusus> no
[09:47] <lusus> desktop
[09:47] <lusus> hmm
[09:47] <bushito> ..... mmm
[09:47] <bushito> lol and why you get that error ??
[09:48] <lusus> yeah i don't know why i get it
[09:48] <lusus> everytime i log in.
[09:48] <bushito> maybe a misscofigured package?
[09:48] <bushito> .... (o_o)
[09:48] <lusus> the little battery icon in the dock, is like no power source found. well duh.. itis a desktop
[09:48] <lusus> how can i get rid of it?
[09:49] <almien> that's how many hours it will run if you leave it plugged into the mains?
[09:49] <almien> does it predict power cuts?
[09:50] <Knowerrors> Whats a good gui video editor and converter on linux?
[09:53] <_dbglt> seems my net wasn't as fixed as I thought it to be :p
[09:53] <_dbglt> bushito: thanks, I've managed to set that up. Fetch updates didn't work, but apt-get update does
[09:54] <_grigory> hey everyone
[09:54] <jwinters> hola
[09:54] <_grigory> i was just wondering, i go to the system menu -> storage media
[09:54] <_grigory> and the only thing i see there is my floppy
[09:54] <_grigory> no dvd\cd drives, to hard drives
[09:54] <_grigory> no*
[09:54] <_grigory> how do i make them appear in there?
[09:55] <_grigory> on my friend's laptop all those devices are listed there
[09:55] <bushito> _dbglt: n.n weee!! iam helping =D
[09:55] <_dbglt> bushito: :)
[09:57] <_dbglt> ok
[09:57] <_dbglt> what's an easy way to upgrade my kubuntu installation?
[09:57] <bushito> (o_o)
[09:57] <bushito> apt-get upgrade?
[09:58] <bushito> or you mean dist upgrade??
[09:58] <_dbglt> yeah
[09:58] <_dbglt> like the whole thing upgrade
[09:58] <_dbglt> to newest version
[09:58] <bushito> what dist you running?
[09:58] <_dbglt> breezy?
[09:58] <_dbglt> 5.10 install CD
[09:58] <bushito> =O thats the last one
[09:58] <_dbglt> whatever that comes with
[09:58] <_dbglt> oh
[09:59] <_dbglt> what's the dapper I keep seeing?
[09:59] <bushito> tomorrow comes snapshot for ubuntu
[09:59] <bushito> what dapper??
[09:59] <_dbglt> http://packages.ubuntulinux.org/
[09:59] <_dbglt> dapper
[09:59] <bushito> says your system out of date... do apt-get upgrade
[10:00] <owner> or apt-get dist-upgrade
[10:00] <owner> :D
[10:01] <bushito> (o_o)
[10:01] <bushito> i didnt knew dapper was out...
[10:01] <_dbglt> I think I killed adept...
[10:01] <_dbglt> pressed the gstreamer-ffmpeg
[10:02] <_dbglt> and it is dead
[10:02] <bushito> lol
[10:02] <bushito> xD
[10:02] <cipi604> goet anyone working "gyatch" -enhanced
[10:02] <bushito> Holy cow need to get Dapper =O
[10:02] <_dbglt> bushito: hehe
[10:02] <_dbglt> bushito: how to I upgrade, too? :)
[10:03] <bushito> well i am not really sure
[10:03] <bushito> but normally on repositories
[10:03] <bushito> you change current distro name "breezy" to new one "dapper"
[10:04] <bushito> but that was on debian =O not really sure here
[10:04] <cipi604> does anyone have "gyatch" working... yes/no ... how is it?
[10:04] <_dbglt> why is adept so ugly looking?
[10:04] <bushito> cipi604: not me.. dont even know whats that
[10:04] <_dbglt> it doesn't seem to be using my settings for fonts and such
[10:04] <owner> gyach-enhanced? cipi
[10:04] <owner> it is buggy
[10:04] <cipi604> yes
[10:04] <cipi604> i know
[10:04] <cipi604> :D
[10:05] <owner> you can convert the rpm to a deb
[10:05] <owner> with alien
[10:05] <cipi604> but it is the only ym 7 like
[10:05] <bushito> _dbglt: wierd...
[10:05] <owner> but i never did get voice chat to work
[10:05] <owner> with it
[10:05] <_dbglt> I've set both my user, and my super user's fonts up... all other applications work fine
[10:05] <_dbglt> bar adept
[10:06] <cipi604> i've installed the .tar.bz2
[10:06] <owner> just use synaptic
[10:06] <cipi604> and is not starting...
[10:06] <_dbglt> adept seems ok
[10:06] <_dbglt> just ugly :)
[10:07] <bushito> _dbglt: what do you mean with "ugly"
[10:07] <_dbglt> bushito: the fonts are all horrible
[10:07] <_dbglt> too big, not AA, horrid
[10:07] <bushito> _dbglt: can you show a pic?
[10:07] <_dbglt> sure
[10:07] <cipi604> hahahaha
[10:08] <SirKillalot> how's the desktop of KDE called?
[10:08] <SirKillalot> it broke down, how can I restart it
[10:08] <cipi604> owner:  so i keep gaim instead... damn :(
[10:08] <SirKillalot> all the icons and so on
[10:08] <SirKillalot> and the background
[10:08] <SirKillalot> everything black
[10:08] <bushito> SirKillalot: crtl + alt + backsapce
[10:08] <SirKillalot> bushito, no
[10:08] <SirKillalot> .
[10:08] <bushito> SirKillalot: ??' thats how you restart it
[10:08] <bushito> SirKillalot: unless you in console =)
[10:09] <pulver> how do one change the kde style for root? so it matches the user style and get a consistent look...
[10:09] <_dbglt> bushito: does the DCC send work?
[10:09] <owner> cipi you could try converting the rpm on that gyach site to a deb
[10:09] <bushito> _dbglt why dont you try http://kubuntu.pastebin.com =)
[10:09] <owner> with alien
[10:10] <owner> like this, alien file.rpm
[10:10] <SirKillalot> bushito, yea, I in console :P
[10:10] <bushito> SirKillalot: startx?
[10:11] <cipi604> i know.... but works?
[10:11] <bushito> oops closed Konver.. xD
[10:11] <cipi604> i have the rpm too
[10:12] <SirKillalot> bushito, I mean just the desktop
[10:12] <SirKillalot> nothing else
[10:12] <bushito> SirKillalot: mmm i dont understand what you mean
[10:13] <SirKillalot> ok
[10:13] <bushito> SirKillalot: BTW do you play RO??xP
[10:13] <bushito> SirKillalot: or any mmorpg?? hehehehe xD
[10:13] <SirKillalot> I was playing RO for 2 weeks maybe? just a test period
[10:13] <bushito> SirKillalot: or was it americas army... >_>mm
[10:14] <bushito> SirKillalot: i know ive seen you in a online game
[10:14] <SirKillalot> ;)
[10:14] <bushito> SirKillalot: did you used cedega?? or guindox?
[10:15] <eightiesk> anyone know why my flash player won't play sound?
[10:16] <eightiesk> first my gaim didn't nowwww flash stoped.
[10:16] <bushito> eightiesk: maybe cause you get an alsa decive is on use error?
[10:17] <bushito> eightiesk: i get same error =) trying to figure how to reapir
[10:17] <bushito> repair*
[10:17] <eightiesk> another thing is
[10:17] <bushito> just close programs that use sounds
[10:18] <eightiesk> The video output is in use by another application. Please close other video applications, or select another video output in the Multimedia Systems Selector.
[10:18] <bushito> like messengers or media players
[10:18] <eightiesk> when i start totem
[10:18] <dbglt> bushito: that paste site isn't for images?
[10:18] <bushito> =) use xine
[10:18] <bushito> dbglt: yes =P
[10:18] <bushito> eightiesk: xine is better than totem
[10:19] <dbglt> bushito: any idea why adept is zorking my fonts?
[10:19] <kavit_> mplayer > *
[10:19] <bushito> dbglt: ohh you mean your fonts xD
[10:19] <bushito> dbglt: lol oh let me check pic again
[10:20] <DingoMan> kubuntu rox... thats what i want t say... err.. nevermind :>
[10:20] <cipi604> owner:  trying again...
[10:21] <bushito> dbglt: send picture again XD i dont know where it downloaded =D
[10:21] <DingoMan> but... anyone know if theres 64 bit wine binary package?
[10:22] <cplusplus> satempler there?
[10:23] <eightiesk> anyone here play FFXI
[10:23] <cplusplus> satempler	cplusplus: open a termenal and type kdesu kate /etc/apt/sources.list .... also add multiverse to the 34 th and 35th line??? multiverse?????
[10:24] <bushito> dbglt: i dont see any "uglyness" on your fonts =P
[10:24] <dbglt> bushito: my turn to close konvi hehe, did you have a look at it?
[10:24] <dbglt> !!
[10:24] <ubotu> ??
[10:24] <dbglt> see the difference between adept and the other applications?
[10:24] <bushito> .... not really =P
[10:25] <dbglt> look at the menu, look at the text!!
[10:25] <bushito> let me see
[10:25] <cplusplus> yeah sound ;-)
[10:26] <cplusplus> i think there is a bug...
[10:26] <bushito> dbglt: i dont see any difference
[10:26] <bushito> it is all normal to me
[10:26] <cplusplus> i now use xine ... same like before...
[10:27] <eightiesk> why is my sound delayed?
[10:27] <eightiesk> like on gaim
[10:27] <eightiesk> its likr 4 seconds after the message.
[10:28] <owner> in kde sound setup
[10:28] <owner> increase buffer to max
[10:28] <owner> and run as highest priority
[10:28] <dbglt> bushito: look at the juk window menu... compare that to the adept window
[10:28] <dbglt> completely different font, different size, etc.
[10:29] <cplusplus> i installed openssh-server..... how can i start/stop sshd?
[10:30] <Xemanth^> service sshd stop ?
[10:30] <jjesse> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd stop
[10:30] <jjesse> sudo /etc/init.d/sshd start
[10:30] <cplusplus> like  gentoo;-)
[10:31] <bushito> well mine is like that 2
[10:31] <cplusplus> command not found?
[10:31] <dbglt> that isn't normal :p
[10:31] <bushito> dbglt: so i dont see why you get so alterated if you can read it xP
[10:31] <eightiesk> owner: it says artswraper is missing or disabled.
[10:31] <dbglt> it is ugly
[10:31] <dbglt> it makes my desktop ulgy
[10:32] <dbglt> that's a crime!
[10:32] <bushito> dbglt: then you know what to do.. =P learn to program in C xP
[10:32] <bushito> dbglt and make your own =D that will help
[10:32] <dbglt> ok, anyone who can help me with my NTFS partition? It is all set up lovely and that, but can only be accessed by the super user. How do I set it up for a normal user?
[10:32] <dbglt> bushito: :p
[10:33] <bushito> dbglt chown   user.superuser /ntfs ??
[10:33] <bushito> and then
[10:33] <bushito> chmod +rwxrwxrwx /ntfs =P
[10:33] <dbglt> chmod 777?!
[10:34] <bushito> even your dog should have acces to the ntfs =)
[10:34] <bushito> i dont know with numbers
[10:34] <dbglt> it is automatically done by ubuntu, set up to mount at /media/hda2
[10:34] <dbglt> 7 = rwx
[10:34] <bushito> but i do it like this chmod +rwxrwxrwx /ntfs =
[10:34] <bushito> oh then yeah
[10:35] <bushito> well i mean dont put write!!
[10:35] <dbglt> /dev/hda1       /media/hda1     vfat    defaults        0       0
[10:35] <dbglt> /dev/hda2       /media/hda2     ntfs    defaults        0       0
[10:35] <dbglt> which is odd, because the fat drive is accesible by a normal user
[10:35] <bushito> put +r-xr-xr-x
[10:35] <dbglt> (usually I have to add -ogid=blah blah
[10:35] <dbglt> but the ntfs drive isn't...
[10:35] <bushito> ntfs =) it is not devolop on linux yet
[10:35] <bushito> only fat
[10:35] <bushito> read it on
[10:35] <bushito> wiki
[10:36] <dbglt> yeah I know, but normally even for my user to have read access to a FAT partition, I've got to set gid and umask and such
[10:36] <bushito> if you try towrite on ntfs youll get data loss
[10:36] <bushito> =D
[10:36] <eightiesk> hey
[10:36] <dbglt> so I'm thinking ubuntu is doing some jiggery pokery behind the scenes
[10:36] <dbglt> :p
[10:36] <cplusplus> @jjesse sudo /etc/init.d/ssh stop      not sshd!
[10:36] <bushito> dbglt: lol xD
[10:36] <jjesse> doh
[10:37] <dbglt> is there any difference in the ati drivers provided from ubuntu/from ati.com?
[10:38] <chx> hi. I can't get timidity to work -- patches are loaded but there is no sound :( beep-media-player, mplayer, xine all works.
[10:38] <owner> the ati ones are newer
[10:38] <owner> if you mean fglrx
[10:38] <owner> but there is no improvement to using the new ones
[10:38] <owner> as of yet
[10:38] <Skrot> Where is kdm files stored? Configs etc
[10:38] <owner> in .directories
[10:38] <owner> hidden
[10:38] <bushito> owner have you seen the Dapper dist??' =O dbglt mentioned it and it is out already do you have it?
[10:39] <owner> dapper is pre release
[10:39] <owner> its being finalized in april
[10:39] <bushito> i see
[10:39] <owner> !dapper
[10:39] <ubotu> well, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[10:40] <bushito> hhhm
[10:40] <pulver> what kde file(s) is equivalent to ~/.gtkrc-2.0 in gnome (styles settings etc) ?
[10:45] <chx> well, Riddell himself said the other day that it's pretty stable -- of course, what ubotu says is also true
[10:45] <eightiesk> why does my clock keep changing to a diffrent timezone
[10:46] <owner> !time
[10:46] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, owner
[10:46] <owner> !timezone
[10:46] <ubotu> owner: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[10:46] <owner> !timezones
[10:46] <ubotu> owner: I don't know, could you explain it?
[10:47] <eightiesk> lol
[10:47] <owner> lol
[10:52] <reon> any know problems with the backport repos ???
[10:52] <eightiesk> ne more
[10:53] <reon> i'm gettin stat & MD5 checksum errors
[10:54] <eightiesk> HELP
[10:54] <eightiesk> lol
[10:54] <lusus> wtf.. i lost all keyboard typing on kubuntu
[10:54] <lusus> restart didn't work
[10:55] <reon> what did you do before your keyboard failed
[10:58] <lusus> i was installing firefox
[10:58] <lusus> doesn't make sense
[10:59] <fangorious> when I run my laptop on battery power, klaptop has the cpu throttled to %87 and the it is horrible. When i run in gnome, i have the cpu monitoring applet and can see the cpu scaling from 50% to 1005 and responsiveness is just fine. is there something i'm missing in configuring klaptop?
[11:00] <fangorious> lusus: what doesn't make sense?
[11:02] <bushito> what program can i use to concet to a remote computer??
[11:02] <lusus> fangorious: i lost my keyboard functionality while installing firefox..reboot didn't work
[11:02] <larsivi> bushito: krdc
[11:03] <fangorious> lusus: you're right, that doesn't make sense. maybe just coincidental timing
[11:03] <bushito> works for kubuntu / ubuntu??
[11:03] <eightiesk> how do i change my deafult timezone?
[11:03] <owner> are you using gnome
[11:03] <owner> or kde
[11:03] <lusus> fangorious: i am going to do a reinstall..
[11:03] <eightiesk> kde.
[11:03] <larsivi> bushito: what's your remote computer?
[11:03] <owner> in bottom right hand corner
[11:03] <owner> just double click
[11:03] <owner> actually right click
[11:03] <owner> adjust time and date
[11:03] <bushito> larsivi: i wanna conect to a friend computer to check some configs
[11:04] <fangorious> lusus: have you tried another keyboard?
[11:04] <bushito> larsivi: i remember in debian it was xcreen something like that but here i dont know
[11:04] <keherman> Is it possible to have KDE desktop as a login choice when logging into Ubuntu?
[11:04] <larsivi> bushito: I think krdc integrates most of the protocols
[11:04] <larsivi> bushito: might try krdc
[11:04] <keherman> I want the user to be able to choose their favorite, either Gnome or KDE, when logging in like on Red Hat Enterprise Linux
[11:04] <owner> !smeg
[11:04] <ubotu> Alacarte Menu Editor is an easy-to-use menu editor for GNOME. Older versions were called smeg. Get it at http://www.realistanew.com/projects/alacarte/
[11:04] <larsivi> bushito: or for just commandline, use ssh
[11:04] <eightiesk> owner, and then?
[11:04] <lusus> fangorious: the only key that would work is control.. yeah i did.. unplugged and replugged new keyboard.. and then lost mouse capability..
[11:04] <fangorious> keherman: install kubuntu-desktop to get the official packages for your distro, then select KDE from the Sessions button on your login manager
[11:05] <owner> pick your time zone eightiesk
[11:05] <keherman> fangorious, will it automatically be added to the Sessions choices?
[11:05] <fangorious> keherman: you will be asked if it's a one-time change or a permanent change
[11:05] <fangorious> keherman: yes
[11:05] <fangorious> lusus: weird
[11:05] <eightiesk> owner, but i did and it changed back to gmd...
[11:05] <lusus> fangorious: no kidding
[11:05] <keherman> fangorious, ahh thanks dude -- and it will save the preference in the user's home dotfile if he likes to remember?
[11:06] <fangorious> keherman: if you say to make it default, then it will load kde by default at each new login
[11:06] <keherman> fangorious, KDE is nice :-)
[11:06] <keherman> fangorious, yeah this is a lab with 25 machines all mounting 200+ users from an NFS
[11:07] <keherman> fangorious, just wanted to make sure it doesnt change for everyone...
[11:07] <fangorious> keherman: should be per user
[11:07] <keherman> fangorious, you rule!
[11:08] <Skrot> Hi. What's needed in order to make translucensy (of windows, in the "Window Behavior" section in kcontrol) work? Hardware wise I mean. I've got a card running DRI and Xorg 7.0 :>
[11:08] <trappist> Skrot: you need to enable the composite extension
[11:08] <dbglt> how come in adept, "kde" is shown as "not installed"
[11:09] <owner> thats a meta package dbglt
[11:09] <Skrot> trappist: in xorg.conf, right? How do I check if it (the extension) is on or off except checking the xorg.conf?
[11:09] <owner> you have kubuntu-desktop installed instead
[11:09] <dbglt> owner: ok
[11:09] <trappist> Skrot: I don't know, but if you haven't gone out of your way to enable it, it's off.
[11:09] <Skrot> trappist: I've got Option "Composite" "Enable" in Xorg.conf, but I want to check if it's really on
[11:10] <dbglt> owner: I want to upgrade to newer kde. Can I do that with the meta package?
[11:10] <triode> hello. Upgrading Kubuntu TODAY messed up my internet connection. I had a fresh install and upgraded a few days ago, no problems, but today after an upgrade (and I travel in a couple of days), I can't get any web browsing before I run "sudo dhclient"
[11:10] <trappist> Skrot: see if you can run xcompmgr
[11:10] <fangorious> Skrot: enable some feature that uses it, and if it doesn't work, check /var/log/xorg (or whatever the file is called, it'll be in /var/log though)
[11:10] <dbglt> I have kde 3.4.3 installed now
[11:10] <dbglt> I want 3.5
[11:10] <owner> just add the kde 3.5 repos for kubuntu dbglt
[11:11] <owner> and sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:11] <dbglt> owner: I'm not sure what you mean by that
[11:11] <dbglt> there is a seperate repository for kde 3.5?
[11:11] <seashell11> ubotu tell dbglt about kde3.5
[11:11] <fangorious> dbglt: kubuntu.org should tell you how to add the repo for 3.5
[11:11] <Skrot> trappist: It runs
[11:11] <seashell11> !kde3.5
[11:11] <ubotu> well, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[11:11] <trappist> Skrot: I think that's a valid test.  not 100% sure.
[11:11] <seashell11> dbglt: that will tell you
[11:12] <Skrot> trappist: Okay. KDE needs to be restarted for this to work?
[11:12] <Skrot> This being tranclucency?
[11:12] <trappist> Skrot: yes
[11:12] <Skrot> okay
[11:12] <dbglt> ok
[11:12] <dbglt> I added that repository to adept
[11:12] <fangorious> triode: have you checked that the interface is still configured to come up on boot?
[11:12] <dbglt> what do I update now? Kubuntu-desktop?
[11:12] <seashell11> dbglt: sudo apt-get update
[11:13] <dbglt> seashell11: does this remove my old kde?
[11:13] <seashell11> dbglt: then sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:13] <fangorious> dbglt: a'pt-get update; apt-get dist-upgrade; apt-get -f install; apt-get dist-upgrade' is the sequence I went with (answering yes to all)
[11:13] <dbglt> ok
[11:13] <seashell11> dbglt: yes it will remove your old kde
[11:13] <dbglt> ok, good
[11:13] <dbglt> I don't want it to take up all my space
[11:13] <_patrick> Would anyone be able to help me configure my sound setup so I can have sound with full duplex instead of half.  Teamspeak running, AA then has no sound.
[11:14] <dbglt> fangorious, seashell11, owner: thanks for your help. I'll report back if it works or not :)
[11:14] <fangorious> anyone familiar with cpu scaling in kde (klaptop)?
[11:14] <Skrot> hehe, tranc. seems to work. Horrible slow though :)
[11:15] <triode> fangorious: yes, it even syncronizes the clock with ubuntu.net
[11:15] <fangorious> _patrick: i believe there's a recent thread on ubuntuforums.org in the hardware->sound & video forum that covers setting it up with alsa
[11:16] <dbglt> ok. One more thing. I want to install the "Opera" internet broswer, but can't seem to find it in the ubuntu repository. Should I download it and install it manually?
[11:16] <kkathman> fangorious: probably better to refer to the wiki ...more reliable :)
[11:16] <fangorious> triode: then what is the manual run of the dhcp client doing?
[11:16] <fangorious> kkathman: probably, didn't know there was an entry for that
[11:16] <kkathman> fangorious:  the wiki covers almost everything...in one way or another :)
[11:16] <_patrick> I wish the forums would work for me, I go there and browser just hangs.
[11:17] <kkathman> ubuntuforums is very much on the ropes right now
[11:17] <dbglt> I will just download from the website. Doesn't matter :)
[11:18] <kkathman> for sound issues in ubuntu/kubuntu: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/?action=fullsearch&context=180&value=sound&titlesearch=Titles
[11:18] <triode> fangorious: enables DHCP for web browsing, if I don't do that it doesn't work (I've read quite a few posts regarding this in the kubuntu forums, I think it's definately related to the upgrade)
[11:18] <fangorious> kkathman: yeah, someone in #ubuntu said the forums were back online abou 10 minutes ago, haven't checked
[11:19] <owner> they are online
[11:19] <owner> for now
[11:20] <fangorious> triode: that doesn't make sense. DHCP configures the IP address, network mask, default route, and possibly setting the nameservers. it shouldn't matter if it's being used by ntp or firefox. either the interface is up or it isn't
[11:20] <Slaphappy> hi... can anyone give me more sources because im feeling that lots of apps are missing.. i need kxdocker and some other stuff
[11:21] <Skrot> Any way to make translucency not apply to kicker btw? ;)
[11:21] <trappist> Skrot: I think you can set up application-specific window behavior
[11:21] <fangorious> hi 'apt-get source <package>'
[11:21] <kkathman> Slaphappy: have you  tried looking in the repos for kxdocker... its there
[11:21] <fangorious> and by hi, i mean Slaphappy
[11:22] <kkathman> !install
[11:22] <ubotu> install is, like, totally, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Installation
[11:22] <Skrot> trappist: hm :)
[11:22] <Slaphappy> hmm havent looked there, only did apt-cache search kxdocker and didn't find anything
[11:22] <DjDarkman> can someone help me set up a gmail account for kmail?
[11:24] <triode> fangorious: I know it doesn't make sense, I'm just describing the problem and the 'mikey mouse' solution
[11:24] <triode> I wish "sudo dhclient" could be added to the startup script (read: autoexec.bat equivalent)
[11:24] <fangorious> triode: immediately after the machine is booted, try running 'ip addr', 'ip route', and 'cat /etc/resolv.conf'. If you don't have an IP address and netmask in the first command, a default route in the second command, or nameserver in the third command, then the interface isn't fully configured
[11:24] <Skrot> trappist: Any way to speed it up if you don't have a nVidia or ATI card btw? ;)
[11:25] <fangorious> triode: in /etc/network/interfaces, do you have 'auto eth0' (assuming the interface in question is eth0?
[11:25] <triode> fangorious: I do have auto eth0
[11:25] <triode> I'll try the other things in a minute
[11:27] <fangorious> triode: what other lines for eth0 are there in /etc/network/interfaces (don't have linux booted right now and forget the exact syntax to specify an interface as dhcp)
[11:28] <Zappa> hrm how do i restart artsd if it crashes
[11:28] <fangorious> Zappa: sudo invoke-rd.c artsd restart
[11:29] <Zappa> where is invoke-rd.c?
[11:29] <fangorious>  i know there's a page that lists the current version, and dependencies, for each package for a particular release, but I can never find it. anyone happen to know it
[11:30] <fangorious> Zappa: sorry, invoke-rc.d
[11:30] <bimberi> fangorious: http://packages.ubuntu.com/
[11:30] <fangorious> Zappa: you could also use 'sudo /etc/init.d/artsd restart' (invoke-rc.d looks for the script in that folder
[11:31] <fangorious> bimberi: well that was embarassingly obvious
[11:32] <bimberi> fangorious: lol - not really (unless you've been used to using packages.debian.org)
[11:32] <fangorious> bimberi: .... no comment
[11:33] <bimberi> :)
[11:33] <Zappa> fangorious: it says it's an unknown init script
[11:34] <fangorious> Zappa: look in /etc/init.d to see what it's called
[11:35] <Zappa> hmm, there doesnt seem to be one for artsd
[11:35] <Zappa> the only one that seems sound related is alsa, but restarting that didnt help
[11:36] <_patrick> patrick@techsonic:~$ cat /proc/asound/cards
[11:36] <_patrick> 0 [CA0106         ] : CA0106 - CA0106
[11:36] <_patrick>                      Live! 7.1 24bit [SB0410]  at 0xd000 irq 18
[11:36] <_patrick> anyone understand that>?
[11:37] <fangorious> Zappa: hm, guess I don't know then. I don't have linux booted right now so I can't poke around to find out
[11:37] <fangorious> _patrick: to some limited extent
[11:37] <Zappa> okay thanks anyway!
[11:39] <trappist> Skrot: not that I know of
[11:39] <Skrot> trappist: Okay :)
[11:39] <trappist> Skrot: maybe if your card's drivers support the Render extension
[11:40] <fangorious> Skrot: well, if you have a card that does hardware 3d acceleration, you'd have to look for a driver to enable it
[11:40] <Skrot> fangorious: I read something about mainly nVidia cards having accelerated support for xrender or whatever it's called in the non-kubuntu version of KDE 3.5 (that part of kcontrol looks different there)
[11:41] <trappist> I'm pretty sure hardware-accelerated composite rendering is supported by completely different stuff than 3d
[11:41] <_patrick> fangorious, Do you know how to get an updated alsa for that card?  I'm trying to open all channels so I can have sound in multiple programs at once.  Such as Teamspeak and also have sound in America's Army
[11:41] <Skrot> composite rendering is "just" manipulation of a bitmap, no?
[11:42] <trappist> Skrot: my understanding of it is far from complete, but I think it just refers to blending images (for example an image and a transparency) offscreen to render the result onscreen
[11:42] <Skrot> right :)
[11:42] <alaoui> salut.......hhheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[11:43] <Skrot> trappist: But I guess nVidia drivers has some stuff to accelerate the process
[11:43] <trappist> Skrot: yeah if I turn on Option "RenderAccel" "true" I get hardware help with xrender
[11:43] <Skrot> right :)
[11:43] <trappist> err with composite
[11:43] <Skrot> Is there a noticable change in the speed?
[11:44] <trappist> well yeah, any time you do something with hardware instead of software it's going to be a lot faster
[11:44] <Skrot> In theory, yes. Depends how optimized the hardware/driver is for that sort of stuff I guess :)
[11:45] <trappist> I don't use composite anymore anyway, because I have to sacrifice 3d gaming for it
[11:45] <Skrot> But this kind of stuff will kick ass once x(e)gl land :)
[11:45] <trappist> with nvidia I can say Option "AllowGlxWithComposite" "true" but it's so unstable it's useless
[11:47] <Skrot> Right, xcompmgr isn't really stable at anything as far as I've heard
[11:47] <Skrot> Just wanted to give it a shot
[11:47] <eightiesk> my sound won't work
[11:47] <eightiesk> !sound
[11:47] <ubotu> somebody said sound was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[11:49] <eightiesk> no.
[11:49] <eightiesk> noth that
[11:49] <eightiesk> i get an error.
[11:53] <BrickMaker> i'm downloading Kubuntu from here http://us.releases.ubuntu.com/releases/kubuntu/breezy/kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso
[11:53] <BrickMaker> it will take 25 hours to complete :))
[11:54] <cplusplus> which is the right packet for mizilla-firefox <--- browser! ?
[11:54] <cplusplus> apt-get install mozilla-firefox   ?
[11:55] <BrickMaker> does kubuntu supports synaptics package manager?
[11:56] <eightiesk> hey
[11:57] <eightiesk> why won't my flash player play sounds?
[11:57] <bimberi> BrickMaker: you can install synaptic on kubuntu yes
[11:57] <bimberi> cplusplus: no just "firefox" (in breezy)
[11:58] <cplusplus> i used mozilla-firefox....whats that?
[11:58] <cplusplus> hm
[11:58] <bimberi> !info mozilla-firefox
[11:58] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (dummy transitional package), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[11:59] <BrickMaker> Ubuntu is better or Kubuntu ?
[11:59] <bimberi> cplusplus: it has a single dependency - firefox :)
[11:59] <cplusplus> bimberi can i deinstall mozilla-firefox?
[11:59] <bimberi> BrickMaker: try both and make up your own mind :)
[12:00] <bimberi> cplusplus: you can, there's no harm in leaving it there though
[12:00] <cplusplus> how?
[12:00] <BrickMaker> bimberi, thats good idea lolx!
[12:01] <bimberi> cplusplus: sudo apt-get remove mozilla-firefox (it will just remove the metapackage)
[12:01] <cplusplus> thx;)
[12:01] <bimberi> yw :)
[12:02] <cplusplus> do you like kubutu?
[12:02] <Monketh> Maybe...
[12:02] <cplusplus> did you test gentoo?
[12:02] <BrickMaker> i like ubuntu
[12:02] <BrickMaker> never used kubuntu
[12:02] <cplusplus> its the same
[12:02] <bimberi> hehe, i do, but i have to admit that i'm running ubuntu atm
[12:02] <cplusplus> kde = kubuntu, ubuntu = gnome
[12:02] <BrickMaker> cplusplus, nope
[12:03] <cplusplus> another desktop manager?
[12:03] <BrickMaker> idk