[12:33] <TheMuso> c
[12:33] <TheMuso> crap...
[03:19] <psusi> is it just me or do the kernel packages postinst scripts interact directly with the user instead of going through debconf?  thus violating debian policy?
[03:19] <psusi> whenever I upgrade it asks if you want to stop now, do you want to reinstall lilo?  do you want to erase lilo.conf? but all without synaptic realizing this and generating a gui prompt
[03:20] <dilinger> anyways, new kernel-package stuff is debconf-ized
[03:21] <psusi> it just happened again upgrading dapper today
[03:22] <dilinger> er, new kernel-package stuff in debian
[03:22] <dilinger> dapper is still using 9.x
[03:23] <dilinger> sid contains 10.x
[03:23] <psusi> I see
[03:23] <dilinger> which is all pimped^Wdebconf'd out
[03:23] <psusi> nice
[03:24] <psusi> you wouldn't happen to know much about debian-installer would you?  I'm trying to figure out the best way to integrate the dmraid-udeb package into it so it can detect hardware fakeraid disks before partman runs... can't seem to find anyone who knows that kind of stuff
[03:25] <psusi> I was going to just rebuild partman with dmraid as a dependancy to get it installed and configured first... only the source package for partman doesn't appear to build a udeb at all... weird...
[11:47] <mxpxpod> BenC_: ping
[03:10] <zul> heylo
[03:11] <zul> sorry i wasnt around this weekend was sick again
[04:35] <fabbione> commit 2179d372d9f8b5fc5c189c89bc6a565a42151b23
[04:35] <fabbione> Author: David Elliott <elliott@stcnet.com>
[04:35] <fabbione> Date:   Wed Jan 18 17:43:08 2006 -0800
[04:35] <fabbione>     [PATCH]  hfs: add HFSX support
[04:35] <fabbione> 
[04:35] <fabbione>     Add support for HFSX, which allows for case-sensitive filenames.
[04:36] <fabbione> 
[04:36] <fabbione>     Signed-off-by: Roman Zippel <zippel@linux-m68k.org>
[04:36] <fabbione>     Signed-off-by: Andrew Morton <akpm@osdl.org>
[04:36] <fabbione>     Signed-off-by: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@osdl.org>
[04:36] <fabbione> WHOOO HOOO
[04:36] <fabbione> hey zul
[04:36] <fabbione> BenC_: ping?
[04:36] <BenC_> poing
[04:40] <BenC_> fabbione: does that apply to 2.6.15?
[04:41] <fabbione> BenC_: yo..
[04:42] <fabbione> BenC_: dunno. i am just going trough .16 changelog
[04:42] <fabbione> BenC_: you need to teach me to do cherry picking :)
[04:42] <fabbione> BenC: ready to travel?
[04:43] <BenC> git-cherry-pick 2179d372d9f8b5fc5c189c89bc6a565a42151b23
[04:43] <BenC> yeah
[04:44] <fabbione> BenC: remember to buy enough cigarettes for the entire week before you get to .uk
[04:44] <fabbione> they are damn expensinve there
[04:45] <fabbione> the changelog is impressive
[04:46] <fabbione> BenC: i guess git-cherry assumes you have the object in the same tree...
[04:46] <fabbione> what if the object is in another tree?
[04:47] <BenC> git-cherry would work
[04:47] <BenC> I pulled some things from 2.6.16-git, but I have linus tree fetched into another branch
[04:48] <fabbione> i will have to try
[04:48] <fabbione> btw.. remember that webcam thingy?
[04:49] <fabbione> i got almost all the code merged properly
[04:49] <fabbione> it still doesn't work but i have a good idea what's wrong
[04:49] <fabbione> at least the module doesn't crash one second yes and the other too
[04:49] <fabbione> the original driver uses some i2c calls, while the modified once doesn't
[04:50] <fabbione> the changelog claims for performance reasons
[04:50] <fabbione> but it's fun to hack :)
[04:53] <fabbione> it's basically the qc_sensor_vv6450 support for the quickcam driver that addes the quickam express
[05:28] <BenC> fabbione: cool
[05:29] <BenC> well, ppc sound in general really
[05:29] <fabbione> yeah i saw the commits
[05:29] <fabbione> i am preparing the new git trees on my mac for london
[05:29] <fabbione> and i will take the webcam with me
[05:30] <fabbione> so we can have somefun after working hours :)
[05:30] <BenC> I have a logitach webcam I should try to get working
[05:30] <fabbione> BenC: wanna bet it's the same as mine?
[05:30] <fabbione> +       { USB_DEVICE(0x046D, 0x08F0) },         /* QuickCam Messenger */
[05:30] <fabbione> +       { USB_DEVICE(0x046D, 0x08F5) },         /* QuickCam Communicate */
[05:30] <fabbione> is it one of these two?
[05:30] <BenC> probably
[05:30] <BenC> I'll check
[05:31] <fabbione> if so the driver i am working on is the same :)
[05:35] <zul> fabbione: you are such a geek..
[05:35] <zul> as my wife would say
[05:41] <fabbione> zul: ahah
[05:44] <fabbione> BenC: http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/dmesg.ppc
[05:45] <fabbione> BenC: i got an OOPS on today's live cd 
[05:45] <BenC> daily?
[05:45] <fabbione> yeps
[05:45] <Mithrandir> vely, vely shiny.
[05:45] <fabbione> it's the last one generated by Mith
[05:45] <Mithrandir> current as of three-four hours ago
[05:46] <BenC> what is using squashfs?
[05:47] <Mithrandir> the live cd, like, it's the root file system
[05:52] <fabbione> BenC: do you need anything more from me or can you go on your own?
[05:52] <fabbione> (for the livecd thingy i mean)
[05:53] <BenC> I can do the rest, thanks
[05:53] <fabbione> np
[06:12] <doko> BenC, fabbione: is there some way to clear the scrollback buffer, so that I'm not able to see any content after I do a `clear'?
[06:12] <BenC> no idea :)
[06:13] <fabbione> doko: ??????
[06:13] <BenC> not sure exactly what you mean though
[06:14] <doko> when logging out on a console the screen should be cleared. just calling clear doesn't help, you are able to scroll back with Shift-PageUp
[06:14] <Mithrandir> doko: clear + chvt?
[06:24] <mxpxpod> BenC: ping
[06:24] <BenC> mxpxpod: pong
[06:25] <mxpxpod> BenC: wanna email me that link?
[06:25] <BenC> still working on the problem with the oops on suspend/resume, which I should have done later today
[06:25] <mxpxpod> BenC: cool
[06:25] <BenC> don't want you to have to download two kernels to test all this
[06:25] <mxpxpod> :)
[06:26] <doko_> Mithrandir: hmm, but I'm not allowed to use chvt from the bash package, because it does have a lower priority
[06:46] <mxpxpod> BenC: would there be any way to get the bluez stuff into the ubuntu kernel?
[06:46] <BenC> not sure
[06:47] <mxpxpod> and maybe not even the whole bluez patch, but at least the HID stuff for bluetooth input devices
[06:47] <mxpxpod> not having my scroll wheel work on my bt mouse sucks
[07:14] <BenC> have you tried loading hci_vhci?
[07:23] <fabbione> BenC: did you check the USB ID for your webcam?
[07:23] <BenC> can't find it
[07:23] <fabbione> eheh
[07:23] <fabbione> i started publishing the git tree on my archive dir
[07:24] <fabbione> http://people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/archives/qc-2.6.git/
[07:24] <fabbione> but don't pull from it yet
[07:24] <fabbione> if the USB ID matches go ahead and play with it
[07:24] <fabbione> but it's not ready yet for inclusion
[07:57] <mgalvin> is the kernel still being compiled with gcc-3.4?
[07:57] <mgalvin> on dapper?
[08:06] <zul> 4.0 i believe
[08:06] <zul> or whatever you have on your system..
[08:06] <zul> in other workds no it isnt :)
[08:33] <zul> for kicks im going to try xemacs
[08:43] <fabbione> BenC: git repo needs an ABI bump
[08:43] <fabbione> or update abi files...
[08:44] <zul> bleah...ugly
[08:44] <fabbione> why?
[08:45] <fabbione> there is nothing wrong in changing ABI
[08:45] <fabbione> it only takes a few hours to propagate
[08:49] <zul> sorry i was talking about xemacs
[09:07] <fabbione> oh great
[09:08] <fabbione> they just release an update for the quickcam
[09:36] <BenC> what for?
[09:37] <BenC> fabbione: if it's the ppc pmf_* stuff, it can be ignored
[09:37] <BenC> only thing using it is snd-powermac
[09:39] <mxpxpod> BenC: any luck?
[09:39] <BenC> mxpxpod: not yet
[09:39] <mxpxpod> BenC: just checking
[11:29] <zul> hey guys what do you think? http://zulinux.homelinux.net/ubuntu/grub/image.xpm as a first try
[11:34] <mxpxpod> BenC: ?