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BrickMaker1 folder at my desktop with jre name and i don't know about others file12:00
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gnomefreakirssi in my opinion is the best :)12:00
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patrick__is it possible to change the settings on the login screen so that it's on 60hurtz instead of 85, it makes my screen wabble.12:00
rahulmwe: yeah timings are correct even i probed it and its a nvidia card12:00
coldhmm I want to make a ubuntu bootdisk for my vmware machine, can someone tell me what files I need to copy ?12:00
gnomefreakubotu tell patrick__ about fixres12:00
rahulbizzeh: no its a 256MB card12:00
Bizzehrahul: is it a 512mb version?12:00
Bizzehohh12:00
mwerahul: are you using the binary driver or the open source one?12:01
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Bizzehcos nivida arnt supporting the 512mb version after end of next month12:01
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witlesshow can i get screen to use a scrollback bufffer?12:01
flavienHi. Looking for help with sound card (nvidia Unknown device 026b (rev a2)).12:01
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mwe!sound12:01
lightbrightmwe: doesnt your system open up for security risks when you install wine and IE?12:01
ubotuwell, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary12:01
Bizzehlightbright: is WINE windows?12:02
patrick__I saw a nice feature on FC4 called Display Settings that not only shows you your video adapter but also your monitor and restricts it to it's limitations, isn't there a similar config for ubuntu?12:02
Bizzehno it isnt12:02
Bizzehits a compatability layer12:02
Bizzehso12:02
lightbrightBizzeh: no need to be condescending. I was asking mwe12:02
Bizzehit is not subject to ALL the same bugs12:02
rahulmwe: its the binary version ....... in the package manager its written as nvidia-glx12:02
rahulNVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver12:02
mwelightbright: not really. I guess if you're unlucky you fake windows drive can be hosed12:02
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lightbrightmwe: ok thanks12:02
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mwelightbright: that's a subdir in your home dir if you don't know12:02
lightbrightmwe: ok12:03
LaserLineHello All, I have a problem for quite some time goig to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/12:03
LaserLineAnyone knows what's going on ?12:03
mwelightbright: so just removing that and reinstalling IE would fix such potential problem12:03
lightbrightmwe: ok12:03
SeveasLaserLine, hardware problems12:03
rahulmwe: even in xorg.conf card name is not displayed its written as Identifier"NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"12:03
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webmasterhoi12:04
mwerahul: driver in xorg.conf?12:04
LaserLineSeveas, Do you know when the UbuntuForum's server will be fixed?12:04
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SeveasLaserLine, no sooner than that the hardware problems are solved I guess12:04
flavienWent to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems12:05
gnomefreakLaserLine, they have been up and down for the past few days i would assume event he people working on it dont know when :(12:05
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flavienAlsa docs say nvidia is snd-intel8x012:05
rahulmwe: nvidia is written in driver12:05
LaserLineSeveas Ohh, ok - I hope they will be solved quickly, I'm using google's cache to try and work it...12:05
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metzger27Could someone please help me with a dependency confliction?12:05
flavienHowever, when I modprobe this, I get nothing more...12:06
rahulmwe: driver version is 76.60 but its not written there12:06
gnomefreakflavien, are you looking for the name of the card?12:06
beelzebub1987Anyone Here Play Unreal Tournament 1999?12:06
flavienlspci | grep -i audio => Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026b (rev a2)12:06
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mwerahul: I don't know then. sorry12:07
gnomefreakflavien, is it an onboard card?12:07
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flaviengnomefreak: yes.12:07
rahulmwe: ok :(12:07
mwerahul: maybe someone else does12:07
gnomefreakim guessing thats why it gives the unknown device output12:07
flaviengnomefreak: Asrock K8NF4G12:07
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cactiioh man do I have a problem....12:07
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rahulmwe: yeah i am here ..... hope someone knows it12:07
hulinhello !12:07
gnomefreakflavien, is that you mobo info?12:07
mailobuona sera a tutti12:07
gnomefreak!es12:08
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.12:08
flaviengnomefreak. Yes that's my mobo info12:08
mailosalve12:08
rahulmwe: anyways thanks for the help12:08
gnomefreakflavien, go to the mobo site and see if they tell you12:08
gnomefreakwhat card it is12:08
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cactiiWhen I try to boot my machine I get an error...12:08
flaviengnomefreak: OK. Do it right away.12:08
beelzebub1987Anyone know when the forums will be back up?12:08
gnomefreakcactii, what error?12:08
gnomefreakbeelzebub1987, no12:08
beelzebub1987=(12:09
cactiiThe error is _IcsTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp12:09
metzger27Could someone please help me with a conflict between two dependencies?12:09
cactiiCan anybody help me.12:09
beelzebub1987I miss the forums ='(12:09
AMDXPbeelzebub1987: me too12:09
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rahulsomeone can help me with screen refresh rate :(12:09
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mailono inglisch12:09
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gnomefreakmetzger27, apt-get -f install corrects depends issues iirc12:09
cactiiI'm in terminal window.... I'm not that good with Linux!12:09
whyameyeI'm confused about AMD/Intel etc. If I have stuff compiled for the Intel 32 processors, will it run on an AMD or do I have to recompile? Both machines are ubuntu Breezy.12:09
gnomefreakmailo, what lang?12:10
metzger27Hah. No12:10
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flaviengnomefreak: Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec12:10
mailosorry no english12:10
flavienHum...12:10
rahulsomeone can help me with screen refresh rate :(12:10
gnomefreakflavien, there you go :)12:10
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mailonessuno che parla italiano12:10
gnomefreak!it12:10
ubotuVai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!12:10
mailoa ok grazie ora lo cerco12:10
flaviengnomefreak: realtek is not listed on alsa-doc.12:10
gnomefreakprego12:10
JarG0nWhen I try to copy this file, I get the following error message after typing  sudo cp \home\rgil\Desktop\temp\QuakeFiles\game000.pk4 \usr\local\games\quake4\q4base  ( cp: cannot stat `homergilDesktoptempQuakeFilesgame000.pk4': No such file or directory ) Why is it ignoring my backslash characters?12:11
gnomefreakflavien, than im not sure if it is supported or not12:11
SeveasJarG0n, use / not \12:11
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Seveasit is not windows12:11
JarG0nwhoops!12:11
JarG0nthx12:11
AMDXPanyone use xmame?12:11
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Dr_WillisJarG0n,  make sure the dirs are allready there.12:11
mailograzie ancora e ciao12:11
JarG0nthey are12:11
JarG0nI created it earlier12:11
Dr_WillisAMDXP,  yes.12:11
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AMDXPi have some roms on a cd how can i start xmame12:11
AMDXPand use those roms12:11
cactiiWhen I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this? I have no idea where to even start.12:12
gnomefreakmetzger27, care to enlighten us on the full issue than and please dont pm me without asking12:12
saifhello, does any1 know how i can change the color of the background that appears with the splash screen!??12:12
metzger27Oh, I am sorry gnomefreak.12:12
Dr_Willisread th xmame docs. :O it has a  rompath option - i recall.. or copy them to the right dir for xmame to find them12:12
Dr_Willisxmame --help12:12
mweJarG0n: the error is indicating you didn't use /12:12
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metzger27Well, see I have libsmpeg0c2 installed on my machine, right?12:12
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_jasonsaif: I *think* I do, I found it the other day in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but haven't tested it out12:13
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cello_raspare there any tv card handling programs for ubuntu??12:13
saif_jason, will try it out now12:13
swbcello_rasp, kaffeine12:13
rahulis there any way to force refresh rate on linux :-/12:13
swbmplayer12:13
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Discipulushow do I cd into a directory that begins with -12:13
metalheddI'm getting  /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found12:13
metalhedd trying to remove phpmyadmin. can anyone help?!12:13
ssstormycello_rasp, try searching in synaptic "tv card" or similar12:13
metzger27Gnomefreak: I need to install pygame, which depends on libsmpeg. But it needs libsmpeg0, and won't accept libsmpeg0c2 which I already have installed. It came installed with Ubuntu.12:13
cactiiWhen I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this?12:13
ssstormycello_rasp, and tell it to search the info, not jsut the names12:14
nilsLCould somebody recommend a good gui based ftp client?12:14
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gnomefreakmetzger27, paste the output of sudo apt-get install python-pygame please12:14
swbnilsL, gftp12:14
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AMDXPgftp12:14
JarG0nwhere should *.run files go before I install them?12:14
rahulis there any way to force refresh rate on linux :-/12:14
coachhi@all12:14
CanYouHelpMePlzpittsburgh's goin to the super bowl! yeaaa!12:14
nilsLswb: AMDXP except gfp12:14
mweJarG0n: anywhere12:14
coachim sry, im a bloody noob to linux...12:14
ssstormyDiscipulus, unusuall characters like a space are preceeded by a \12:14
SeveasCanYouHelpMePlz, -ETOPIC12:14
lightbrighthello12:14
mweJarG0n: what are you trying to install?12:14
Discipulusssstormy, don't work12:14
JarG0nmwe: Thx, and to exec this, what do I use?  quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run12:14
CanYouHelpMePlzSeveas: no idea what that means12:14
ssstormynilsL, gftp12:15
coachi downloaded lazarus.....rpm and now i dont know how to go on12:15
Discipulusssstormy, I've had this problem before but I often forget the solution by the next time I need to use it :-D12:15
SeveasCanYouHelpMePlz, that you're very off topic which is bad12:15
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lightbrightis it possible for a person to enter my system and download or read a text file I have on my hard drive? Is that possible at all?12:15
ssstormyDiscipulus, ah I see12:15
cactiioh man I really don;t want to go back to windows...12:15
AMDXPflashfxp via wine12:15
chxhi. Where can I find a 1.0-8xxx nvidia-glx for Breezy?12:15
CanYouHelpMePlzSeveas: thats ok, i couldn't possibly be happier12:15
metzger27Gnomefreak: root@metzger:/home/metzger# apt-get install python-pygame12:15
metzger27Reading package lists... Done12:15
metzger27Building dependency tree... Done12:15
metzger27You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:12:15
metzger27The following packages have unmet dependencies:12:15
nilsLssstormy: except gftp12:15
ssstormyoh12:15
metzger27  python2.4-pygame: Depends: libsmpeg0 but it is not installable12:15
metzger27E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).12:15
mweJarG0n: chmod +x file.run. then you probably need sudo ./file.run12:15
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ssstormyDiscipulus, try " around the line12:15
Discipulusssstormy, I tried quotes, didn't work12:15
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Discipulusssstormy, single, double, and ` don't work12:15
ssstormynilsL, there's a port of filezilla... it's still in the works, but I like filezilla...12:15
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JarG0nmwe: thx.  Can I ask what chmod does?  sets attributes?12:16
whyameyeis something is compiled for Intel (IA-32?) will it run on a 64 bit AMD?12:16
gnomefreakdidnt know i had to be spiceific on where to paste it :(12:16
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nilsLssstormy: ok thx12:16
mweJarG0n: yeah chmod +x makes it executable12:16
JarG0nmwe: and before it is not executable?  Being a windows user, that seems a bit odd.12:16
ssstormywhyameye, I think so, but it won't use the full capabilities of 64 bit12:16
JarG0nyeah, it's not marked as executeable12:17
SeveasJarG0n, any security measure in ubuntu that actually makes sense is odd to windows users :)12:17
JarG0nSeveas: indeed12:17
cactiiWhen I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this?12:17
mweJarG0n: linux uses file permissions, not extensions to determine if it's an executeable12:17
whyameyessstormy, and if I recompile, it will automatically take more advantage of the 64 bit, or would I have to set some flags or something or the configure code needs to detect etc...12:17
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JarG0nmwe: sounds logical to me... I'm migrating :)12:17
mweJarG0n: it is odd if you're not used to it12:18
ssstormywhyameye, sometimes programs will detect themselves and adjust (the ./configure stage we're talkking about)12:18
JarG0nyep12:18
JarG0nDo I need to sudo chmod first?12:18
lightbrightis it possible for a person to enter my system and download or read a text file I have on my hard drive? Is that possible at all?  If so, how can I protect myself from such hackers?12:18
mweJarG0n: you usually don't need to do that a lot12:18
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whyameyessstormy: so the compiler doesn't do this automatically. It has to be built by the source code developers, huh?12:18
lightbrightmwe: any feedback?12:18
Discipulus./- works12:18
Discipulus:-D12:18
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mwelightbright: to?12:18
coachhiho, what do i have to do with .rpm files?12:18
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ssstormylightbright, minimize the number of services you run that service the world12:19
ssstormylightbright, run a firewall12:19
Dr_Willislightbright,   with any 'security' breach - of course its possible.12:19
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gnomefreakcoach, you couldnt find a deb?12:19
Dr_Willisso keep the system as secure as possible12:19
kentlightbright, if you dont install any services manually then its not possible since ubuntu dont have any open services by default as far as I know12:19
ssstormylightbright, use a router12:19
coachno, i'm sry12:19
cactiiWhen I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Where do I start to correct this error???12:19
ssstormylightbright, permanently shut down services like ssh and ftp, if you have them12:19
gnomefreakcoach, what app is it?12:19
coachlazarus12:19
metzger28Gnomefreak: I pasted it elsewhere now.12:19
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gnomefreak!info lazarus12:19
JarG0nkent: and to contrast Ubuntu against windows, Microsoft ships their product with ALL services enabled by default.  Go figure!12:20
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coach!info lazarus12:20
lightbrightssstormy: shut down ssh and ftp?12:20
ssstormyJarG0n, not true.  just the ones you don't want12:20
sagarpwhere's the java 5.0 sdk as a package? the ubuntuforums appear to be down12:20
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JarG0nright12:20
gnomefreakubotu tell coach about rpm12:20
lightbrightdo I need to have ssh and ftp running all the time if I dont run a webserver?12:20
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mwewell not quite all services are enabled by default in windows, but sure a lot of crap is12:20
ssstormylightbright, well those aren't standard, but things like that are the biggest opening for the kinda thing you want to protect from12:20
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coach!alien12:20
lightbrightssstormy: how can I see if ssh and ftp is running now?12:20
ubotuI heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/12:20
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SkrotFFSWhere does ubuntu store firmware for hotplug (such as the firmware for ipw2200 cards)?12:21
ratschnowskihello, i need to convert mdf images to iso images, any idea how to do that with ubuntu?12:21
kentssstormy, I thought there aren't any open services at all by default?12:21
ssstormykent, there's a couple12:21
mweSkrotFFS: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/12:21
JarG0nmwe:  chmod /home/rgil/Desktop/temp/QuakeFiles/quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run +x  results in ( chmod: invalid mode string: `/home/rgil/Desktop/temp/QuakeFiles/quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run' ) :(12:21
lightbrightkent: how can I check to see?12:21
steve__hi all...does anybody know of any inventory control software for linux?12:21
steve__Preferably open source12:21
mweJarG0n: wrong command12:21
JarG0ndoh :(12:21
BizzehJarG0n: chmod +x /home/rgil/Des......12:21
metzger27Gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/749812:21
SkrotFFSmwe: That's what I though12:21
mweJarG0n: chmod +x file.run12:21
JarG0nah12:21
ratschnowskiread smth about mdf2iso but cannot find that package12:21
ssstormylightbright, go to administration->services12:22
ratschnowskior is there a way to burn mdf files?12:22
kentlightbright, there are some services on the internet which runs a port-scan to see whats open on your computer.  But if you know you havent installed like ftp, telnet etc then your ok.12:22
ssstormy(under system menu)12:22
SkrotFFSmwe: There's no /etc/init.d/hotplug btw?12:22
mweJarG0n: use tab completion for the long file path12:22
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lightbrightkent: I dont think I installed that!  how can I be sure?12:22
ssstormylightbright, but first and formost, install Firestarter from the repositries, and start up that12:22
lightbrightssstormy: im running firestarter now12:22
mweSkrotFFS: there isn't?12:22
ssstormylightbright, you don't need to use internet port scanners12:22
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mweSkrotFFS: there is here12:22
steve__anyone?12:23
SkrotFFSmwe: hmm! I'm running dapper btw12:23
gnomefreakmetzger27, what does sudo apt-get -f install give you?12:23
ssstormygo to Applications->System Tools->Network Tools12:23
JarG0nmwe: what's tab completion??12:23
mweSkrotFFS: it's broken.12:23
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gnomefreak!dapper12:23
SkrotFFSmwe: And upon apt-get install hotplug I get "Note, selecting murasaki instead of hotplug"12:23
ubotuit has been said that dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.12:23
ssstormythat will provide all the network testing tools you need to scan yourself12:23
mweSkrotFFS: it alpha software12:23
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steve__also, how do i set up an epson all in one printer in ubuntu?12:23
SkrotFFSmwe: I know it is ;)12:23
mweSkrotFFS: maybe install hotplug12:23
lightbrightssstormy: actions schedular (anacron and atd) is running in services!  is that safe?12:23
ssstormyfind your IP (your modem's IP) and scan that12:23
steve__i set the printer up...i  think, but how do i do the scanner?12:23
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SkrotFFSmwe: apt-get install hotplug says so12:23
gnomefreakubotu tell steve_about printer12:23
metzger27Gnomefrak: It just asks if I want to uninstall pygame. IT is the only broken package I have right now.12:23
ssstormylightbright, yeah, those are local12:23
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lightbrightssstormy: and actions schedular (cron) is running in services!  is that safe also?12:24
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gnomefreakmetzger27, than uninstall it12:24
ssstormylightbright, port scanning yourself from your internet IP (not the 192.168..... one) will tell you all your open ports12:24
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metzger27Gnomefreak: Then what?12:24
ssstormylightbright, just look for stuff like ftp and ssh and apache12:24
gnomefreakmetzger27, if its broken you dont want it after you uninstall it try to re-install it if you like12:24
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lightbrightssstormy: and the only other services running are keylogger and gdm!  is that ok?12:24
mweSkrotFFS: don't know. I heard hotplug is being dropped in dapper12:24
lightbrightssstormy: none of those appear in services12:25
ssstormylightbright, yeah you're fine12:25
lightbrightssstormy:  ftp and ssh and apache is not there12:25
lightbrightssstormy: so it looks like im ok then :)12:25
SkrotFFSmwe: Might be it then :)12:25
ssstormylightbright, do the portscan now12:25
lightbrightssstormy: how do I do the portscan?12:25
metzger27Gnomefreak: IS there a certain way I should try to re-install it? I have tried this before and it doesn't bring me anywhere.12:25
lightbrightssstormy: I have my ip12:25
ssstormylightbright, the menu: Applications->System Tools->Network Tools12:25
mweSkrotFFS: some developer told me. I don't remember the replacement though12:25
gnomefreakmetzger27, its just the lib you want?12:26
metzger27Yes.12:26
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ssstormylightbright, then go to port scan tab, and you can figure the rest12:26
SkrotFFSmwe: I see :)12:26
lightbrightssstormy: what IP address do I enter then?12:26
metzger27gnomefreak, yes.12:26
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gnomefreakmetzger27, open synaptic and search for the base of the lib12:26
rahuli am back12:26
ssstormyyour internet IP address12:26
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gnomefreaksee if it gives you waht your looking for?12:26
rahulstill anyone to help me12:26
rahul:)12:26
ssstormylightbright, not the 192.168.XXX.XXX one12:26
ssstormylightbright, if you have one of those12:26
ssstormylightbright, that's a locla network IP, so it's not how the world sees you12:27
lightbrightssstormy: I typed /dns lightbright, is that the one I use?12:27
ssstormyno12:27
JarG0nWhen I get instructions that say "Type Quake4 to play", does this mean I must type this in a terminal window?12:27
lightbrightssstormy: I dont know any other12:27
gnomefreakJarG0n, yes12:27
ssstormynot unless you have your own domain name, registered with DynDNS or something12:27
Dr_WillisJarG0n,  where else ya going to type it in at?12:27
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ssstormylightbright, just open firefox and type "my ip" in the address bar, hit enter12:27
Dr_Willis:)12:27
lightbrightssstormy: i am given a different IP everytime I log in12:28
lightbrightssstormy: ok12:28
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BrickMaker_adam, hey can you help me with blackdown12:28
BrickMaker?12:28
lightbrightssstormy: myip only took me to some website12:28
rahulhelp!!!!!!!!!!!!help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!12:28
gnomefreakubotu tell rahul about helpme12:29
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ssstormylightbright, yeah it should but make sure it's my ip with a space12:29
coachgnomefreak, ok, i converted the package and did sudo su and dpkg -i /home/myfolder/package.deb, what to do now?12:29
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gnomefreakcoach, i dont know i dont use rpms12:29
gnomefreaki use debs :)12:29
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coachoh...but the proggs should be installed now?12:30
RickBauerHow do you recover a lost password for IRC?12:30
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ssstormylightbright, www.whatismyip.com also works12:30
gnomefreakcoach, dpkg -i installs the deb12:30
rahulgnomefreak: i can't chnge mine screen refresh rate to 72 Hz when the resolution is 1280x96012:30
^Ocean^is unrar-free broken in drapper ?  cuz i do unrar-free -x blah.rar says All ok but it dont extract anything12:30
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gnomefreakubotu tell rahul about fixres12:30
coachok, then thx...i will test it now and then go to bed, gn8@all12:30
gnomefreak^Ocean^, everything is broken in dapper12:30
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ssstormy^Ocean^, just use the nonfree one12:31
lightbrightssstormy: I found this:  www.grc.com <-- it checks all ports12:31
BrickMaker_adam, hey are you there... please help me with blackdown i have delete sun jre12:31
rahulgnomefreak: i have tried that guide by stilll the option is not there12:31
mwegnomefreak: everything? :)12:31
ssstormylightbright, that wokrs too, I just like local tools :)12:31
^Ocean^ssstormy:  no apt-get for that is there ?12:31
cello_raspis ubuntuforums still down?12:31
bryanheya ll, i have a question about apt...i use arch linux right now and the package manager (pacman) can remove a program and all of its deps that aren't still needed...is there an equivalent to apt?12:31
gnomefreakmwe its dapper most of the stuff is they even pulled the graphics out of it12:31
pundaihey ladies i just did an install from g3nt00 2 ubuntu and gnome seems to be _very_ slow in loading. its not using any cpu though the splash screen is taking forever12:31
quackerAanyone get the gatos drivers to work with xorg?12:31
ssstormy^Ocean^, yeah there is.12:31
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cactiihehehe12:31
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cactiifixed12:31
lightbrightssstormy: its the same as when I type /dns lightbright  :)12:31
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cactiiHow did my permissions get changed on my files....12:32
ssstormy^Ocean^, try something like apt-get install *rar*12:32
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rahulhey anyone here with a samsung 753s moniter here12:32
^Ocean^ssstormy: what would it be i did at apt-cache search unrar and ill i came up with was comix and unrar-free12:32
ssstormy^Ocean^, that will list all the candidates that fit *rar* and you can find the one you need12:32
cactiiDoes anybody know if there is a utility to configure laptop touchpads for Ubuntu???12:32
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ssstormylightbright, oh, sorry.  My bad :) dint' know that12:32
metzger27gnomefreak: Wow, thanks for the help. I cannot believe it was that easy. I don't know why I didn't work before.12:32
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mwegnomefreak: well someone just installed the nvidia binary driver in dapper for xorg12:32
lightbrightssstormy: it doesnt tell me anything when I scan!  so thats good sign yes? :)12:32
BrickMakerhi anyone, who can help me to enable Java applet at websites12:32
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pixelfairyill probalby add this to the wiki or something, but if anyone cares, to install cinelerra (video editor) do the apt repos like the cinelerra site says, then comment out the specific (non ubuntu ones) to install mplayer12:33
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pixelfairyBrickMaker: in firefox?12:33
gnomefreakmwe no i mean the newly added graphical stuff like the log-out and reboot things12:33
ssstormylightbright, yeah that's good12:33
rahulhey anyone here with a samsung 753s moniter here12:33
BrickMakerpixelfairy, yeah12:33
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mwegnomefreak: oh12:33
pixelfairythe auto install doesnt work?12:33
gnomefreakmetzger27, thats what synaptic is there for12:33
ssstormylightbright, you're got pretty good security going.  the rest is up to your activities on the web :)12:33
pixelfairyits in the multiverse repo12:33
mwegnomefreak: my data is to important for dapper anyway.12:33
BrickMakeri have download java manually12:33
tigliona1bitI'm getting "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key" from http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy12:34
lightbrightssstormy: ok :) thanks12:34
rahulanyone know here that a latest nvidia graphics driver works on ubuntu or not :-/12:34
gnomefreakmwe unless you plan on running on a testing pc i dont recommend useing it :)12:34
lightbrightssstormy: for future refernece, www.grc.com does port scans12:34
ssstormypixelfairy, whoa, tell me more.. what's the address?  I was trying to use cinelerra!12:34
ssstormylightbright, k! XP12:34
mwegnomefreak: no that's what I hear. I would never run a test release os here though12:35
pixelfairyssstormy: ill make a quick write up12:35
BrickMakerpixelfairy, so applets are working on your firefox12:35
BrickMakerpixelfairy, if you are experience so help me to enable mine12:35
pixelfairyBrickMaker: yea12:35
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bobbydhi12:35
pixelfairyyou make a sym link to the run time plug in12:35
lightbrightssstormy: XP?12:35
gnomefreakmwe they did fix alot of the issues dapper had but theres still alot to go :)12:35
pixelfairyBrickMaker: hold on, im going to do the cinelerra thing first12:36
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ssstormylightbright, like a :), with crossed eyes and sticking out his tongue12:36
BrickMakerpixelfairy, Okay!12:36
bobbydanyone here runnign on a G5? I have the opportunity of picking one up cheap and just wondred how ubuntu would run on it.12:36
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gnomefreak<<wants a cheap g5 :(12:36
quackergnomefreak, that's a contradiction, heh12:36
bobbydgnomefreak, I'm getting two for 100 each :)12:36
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gnomefreaklol12:37
rahulsomeone tell me how to install this file  NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run12:37
BrickMakerwhats g5 is actully lol12:37
gnomefreakg5 is the processer in the macs12:37
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lightbrightssstormy: that website said NO ports are seen and my system is in perfect stealth mode :)12:37
quackera mac g5?12:37
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gnomefreakthats changing  :)12:37
bobbydyes12:37
rahulsomeone tell me how to install this file  NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run12:37
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gnomefreakg6 will not be g6 it will be intel :)12:38
BrickMakeri'v never seen macs12:38
mjbjrI'm trying to help  someone update firefox (remotely)... where/how do you do this from the gui?12:38
quackergnomefreak, yeah, they've sold out to wintel12:38
mwerahul: why not use the ubuntu pacages?12:38
gnomefreakrahul, on the site you got the run file from should tell you12:38
lightbrightssstormy: Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating12:38
pundaican someone explain why gnome is taking so freaking long to start up :)12:38
pixelfairymwe: the packages dont always work, they do on one comp here, but not on the other12:39
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lightbrightssstormy: what does it say about your system?12:39
mjbjrremotely meaning, I'm talking to them over the phone12:39
pixelfairyalso, the package includes a neat lil config thingy12:39
pixelfairyi mean the nvidia installer does12:39
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rahulmwe: coz the driver in the ubuntu package is 76.60 and that is not having support for 7800GTX12:39
zblachhi, with what do I rip mp3s?12:39
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rahulgnomefreak: chking the site for instructions12:39
ssstormylightbright, I have a couple of ports open12:39
pixelfairyrahul: chmod +x blahblah.run && ./blahblah.run12:39
pixelfairyrahul: but make sure X is not running when you do it12:40
ssstormyzblach, sound juicer12:40
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pixelfairyyoull need the kernel headers installed12:40
pixelfairyand gcc-3.412:40
zblachssstormy, having a couple problems with sound juicer12:40
pixelfairyi think theres a wiki page on it12:40
rahulpixelfairy : thanks ....trying12:40
lightbrightssstormy: which ones?12:40
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lightbrightssstormy: did you do a ALL PORTS scan?12:40
pixelfairyrahul: look for the wiki page12:40
mfvhi... is there an expat development package for Hoary?12:40
pixelfairyi probalby left something out12:40
rahulpixelfairy : i trid everything written on that page but its not working12:40
ssstormylightbright, i used my local utility12:41
pundaihow can i check wtf gnome is doing12:41
pixelfairyi usually do that in slackware, but it did work12:41
pundaiits taking forever12:41
rahulpixelfairy : u are talking about the guide to install nvidia driver right ???12:41
pixelfairyim using an ubuntu done that way now with a 660012:41
ssstormylightbright, I'm not gonna broadcast my ports to the world :)12:41
pixelfairyyea12:41
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lightbrightssstormy: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd212:41
pixelfairyi didnt read it, just saw that it was there12:41
pundaieven failsafe isnt working12:41
lightbrightssstormy: try that it does a port scan12:41
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lightbrightssstormy: and gives a report12:41
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lightbrightssstormy: go to http://www.grc.com/default.htm and chose SHIELDS UP!12:42
gnomefreakremember for every portscanning tool ther eis always another one that gives differnet output :)12:42
jamessonnow, what was that sudo command again?12:42
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cello_raspwhats the latest ubu breezy kernel?12:42
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gnomefreak2.6.1212:42
BrickMaker2.6.12.1012:42
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lightbrightcello_rasp: 2.6.12-10-68612:42
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spanglesontoasthow do I select my sound card?12:43
geoffWAhow do i mount an external hard drive in ubuntu12:43
spanglesontoastI have more than one sound card12:43
jamessonhelp please, x won't start12:43
gnomefreakspanglesontoast, turn one off12:43
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spanglesontoastno I wish to switch one to the primary one12:43
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spanglesontoastI need both on12:43
lightbrightspanglesontoast: turn your onboard one off in your BIOS12:43
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spanglesontoastno cos I need it on for doze12:43
lightbrightspanglesontoast: why?12:43
gnomefreakspanglesontoast, with both enabled i dont think either will work12:44
spanglesontoastit supports my surround sound12:44
spanglesontoastthey work fine in fedora12:44
gnomefreakspanglesontoast, this isnt fedora :(12:44
lightbrightspanglesontoast: ubuntu is not fedora :P12:44
VoXheh12:44
ssstormylightbright, yeah I'm pretty much closed up12:44
mwethey're both linux though12:44
BrickMakeryeah12:44
lightbrightspanglesontoast: some things work in ubuntu that doesnt with fedora and vice versa12:44
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gnomefreakspanglesontoast, keep in mind not all linux distros support the same things12:44
lightbrightssstormy: what ports were open?12:44
lightbrightssstormy: 100% of all my ports were closed :)12:45
ssstormy2212:45
spanglesontoastwhat just cos it doesn't come with system-config-sound12:45
ssstormylightbright, but it's open cause i want it to be12:45
spanglesontoast..12:45
lightbrightssstormy: whats 22 used for?12:45
cello_rasphow do i chack for kernel ver?12:45
gnomefreakssh12:45
ssstormyUSUALLY it's for ssh, a remote login protocol12:45
BrickMakerlightbright, how do you know your 100% ports are closed?12:45
lightbrightssstormy: ah ok12:45
zblachhaving problems with soundjuicer12:45
mwewhen it comes to hardware all linux distros should support pretty much the same hardware with a little tweaking now and then12:45
lightbrightBrickMaker: port scanning report12:45
jamessonhelp please, x won't start12:45
Sputn1khttp://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3640/nuotrauka7km.png why i can't mark thouse 2boxes for ssl?12:45
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BrickMakercello_rasp, uname -r12:46
lightbrightBrickMaker:  go to http://www.grc.com/default.htm and chose SHIELDS UP!12:46
zblach"could not extract, reason : invalid parameters"12:46
Sputn1kmaybie i need some libs?12:46
ssstormylightbright, Brickmaker does have a point though, cause Green is stealth, not closed, and that only scans first 150012:46
ssstormylightbright, you do realize there are a bajillion ports12:46
lightbrightssstormy: so what else can I do?12:46
ssstormylightbright, don't worry about it; you can't ever know for sure and be absolutly sure12:46
ssstormybut you're pretty good right now12:46
lightbrightssstormy: yeah true12:46
quackerAnyone get the CATV in working on an original 32 MB Radeon AIW?12:46
gnomefreakthere is no such thing as one port scanning tool that will see every port12:47
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amonkeywhat's the best way to do transparencys in gnome?12:47
largo24gnomefreak, http://scan.sygate.com/?12:47
ssstormylightbright, lemme put it this way.  Odds are, if someone really wanted in, you wouldn't be able to stop them (if they knew what they were doing)12:47
cello_raspamonkey: png12:47
mwethere is but it would take a very long time12:47
gnomefreaklargo24, ????12:47
ssstormylightbright, the only perfect security is to not connect to the internet12:47
cello_raspur srry me am dum12:47
lightbrightssstormy: yeah true12:47
amonkeycello_rasp, i meant for the windows12:48
senkilaquick question, Is it me or are the forums down?12:48
quackerssstormy, there are 65536 ports numbered from 0-65535 which can send/recieve using either UDP or TCP12:48
lightbrightssstormy: but I only seek to make it most secure as human possible for me12:48
jamessonsudo comannd to reconfig x anyone?12:48
cello_raspforums down12:48
senkiladarn...12:48
cello_rasp..da forums always down..12:48
ssstormylightbright, yup and you're pretty much there12:48
senkila><12:48
rahulwhile installing the driver i am getting this error "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match ur kernel ..... do u want serch for the kernel interface for ur kernel on the nvidia site"12:48
quackerlightbright, then disconnect it from the Inet -- heh12:48
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mwesenkila: it's been up and down, up and down ... all the time lately12:48
spanglesontoastso is there a proper way of switching12:48
ssstormyquacker, see?  a bajjillion12:48
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quackerssstormy, hardly... =P12:48
ssstormyquacker, 1 bajjillion = 6553612:49
pundaiis there any package that will bring in all gnome desktop stuff12:49
BrickMakerlightbright, and ssstormy come in #flood12:49
lightbrightquacker:  I only seek to make it most secure as human possible for me and still be connected to the Inet ;)12:49
senkilaunreadable-name-apart-from-"we": well that sucks12:49
quackerlightbright, LOL12:49
defendguinanyone know how to reset an ipod?  remove all music and info from it?12:49
ssstormyBrickMaker, um what's that mean?12:49
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lightbrightquacker: L(12:49
senkilaDefend, tried formatting it?12:49
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gnomefreaksync it12:49
quackerlightbright, apt-get install checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille12:49
quackerthen conf them all12:49
ssstormydefendguin, no don't format12:50
pundaiheeeeeeeeelllo is there any package that will bring in all gnome desktop stuff12:50
quackerand turn off any unused services using ubuntu's service manager12:50
pundaiit seems my install didn't install alll the required gnome stuff12:50
lightbrightquacker: sounds complicated :P12:50
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cello_raspdefendguin: gnupod... or use the ippod update (really a eraser) on win[e] 12:50
defendguinso far i am disgusted with all linux ipod applications12:50
mwepundai: no, but ubuntu-desktop will get a lot12:50
rahulwhile installing the driver i am getting this error "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match ur kernel ..... do u want serch for the kernel interface for ur kernel on the nvidia site" anyone knows wat is the problem even selecting yes gives me message that no kernel interface found12:50
mwepundai: why would you want everything?12:50
Kyralrahul: just compile it12:51
pundaimwe, i dont know why my install was borked12:51
pundaiis there a way i can get the base install?12:51
Kyralthe installer will do it for you12:51
pundaimwe it didnt even install metacity12:51
gnomefreaklol @ just compile it12:51
quacker(I.e. cupsys, (port 623) smbd (ports 135, 137, 139) and nfsd)12:51
cello_raspdefendguin: try the iPod shuffle Database Builder if you have a shuffle.. it is awesome!12:51
mwepundai: I don't think installing everything will fix your problem12:51
lightbrightquacker: whats checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille?12:51
Kyralgnomefreak: in this case the thing does it for you12:51
gnomefreakKyral, compiling a kernel is different than a package right?12:51
pundaimwe... then?12:51
mwepundai: install ubuntu-desktop12:51
defendguincello_rasp, i have a mini12:51
gnomefreakohhhhhh12:51
pundaimwe ok :(12:51
amonkeyif i want my windows to be tranparent, how can i do that in gnome?12:51
ssstormylightbright, a bunch of security packages12:51
gnomefreakif apt does it for me just sit back and watch :)12:51
rahulkyral: compile the driver or the kernel12:51
lightbrightquacker: why did you say I shold install checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille?12:52
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quackerlightbright, look up the descriptions in your package manager of choice12:52
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lightbrightok12:52
Kyralrahul: the Kernel Module(Driver)12:52
cello_raspdefendguin: did you try gnupod?12:52
mweamonkey: by some powerful hardware and a lot of ram and read the forum howto12:52
quackerlightbright, they're not that hard to configure (except snort) -- they have scripts12:52
rahulkyral: how to do that ???12:52
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spanglesontoastI mean it's the most simplest thing in the world12:52
Kyralrahul: the Nvidia Installer right?12:52
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defendguincello_rasp, nope12:52
spanglesontoastswitching the default sound card12:52
amonkeymwe, ram and i are good friends.12:52
rahulkyral : yeah12:52
pixelfairyssstormy: http://pixelfairy.org/quickies/cinelerra.html12:52
defendguini tried banshee gkpod12:52
defendguingtkpod12:52
mweamonkey: good12:52
quackerlightbright, you can also jsut by a 'broadband Inet gateway' or 'home office router'12:52
Kyralrahul: make sure you have Build-Essiential installed, gcc-3.4, and the kernel headers for your kernel12:53
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cello_raspgnupod are commandline tools but you can write bash or even nautilus scripts to handle them, they are rock solid too :)12:53
lightbrightquacker: im also using rootkithunter, that good?12:53
defendguinrhythmbox just doesnt do anything with an ipod except for play music form it12:53
amonkeydefendguin, i got one for you. amarok kicks serious ass.12:53
ssstormypixelfairy, sweetness12:53
gnomefreakyeah see thats not good12:53
pixelfairyssstormy: i havent had a chance to test the whole set up12:53
gnomefreakdebain repos can and will break ubuntu12:53
pixelfairysooo... ummm... tell me if it sucks :)12:53
defendguinamonkey, amarok is a qt application12:53
quackerThe LInux kernel IPv4 implementation has source-routed packet filtering built-in -- it just ahs to be enabled (might be the default setting on Ubuntu)12:53
rahulkyral : thanks i am trying to figure out wats that12:54
Kyralrahul: then just run it, when it sees that there is no precompiled interface it will offer to compile it12:54
lightbrightquacker: you use rootkithunter also?12:54
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amonkeydefendguin, did i miss a requirement up there? i love it personnally.12:54
quackerlightbright, if yoiu get a rootkit that it know how to detect -- yes, but at that point I think you're hooped anyhow.12:54
pixelfairyBrickMaker: im pretty sure the autoinstaller should work12:54
PhalanxHey I\ve got a big problem... I saved 2 text documents on my previous ubuntu install... 2 hours later on my fresh new clean kde / ubuntu install. I can\t view those documents without seeing binary text, please what\s going on_12:54
cello_raspis qt still taboo??12:54
rahulkyral : yeah it was there but after that it given some error like kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4 and now the gcc version is gcc 4 so it can't be done12:54
ssstormypixelfairy, that's ok, I'm sure I can stumble through12:54
BrickMakerpixelfairy, i don't know about auto installer12:55
BrickMakerpixelfairy, tell me more about it12:55
Kyralrahul: install gcc-3.412:55
pundaicello_rasp, qt is for those hippies12:55
quackerlightbright, the best staregy is to KEEP rootkits OUT12:55
pixelfairyssstormy: its what i just did to install mplayer and cinelerra12:55
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Kyralrahul: then export CC=gcc-3.412:55
pixelfairyBrickMaker: the auto installer in firefox12:55
Kyralthen try it12:55
gnomefreakrahul, sudo apt-get install build-essential12:55
studio208203is there a way to view my text documents12:55
pixelfairywhen you go to a page iwth it, it will try to download and install it12:55
quackeralso aegis-virusscanner and ClamAV are your friends (especially if you have an SMTP node)12:55
Kyralgnomefreak: build-essential installs 412:55
gnomefreakstudio208203, yes open it with gedit or OOo12:55
BrickMakeryeah did'nt work, so i hit manually download12:55
pundaimwe sweet need to get 519 packages :S12:55
rahulthanks kyral and gnomefreak12:56
gnomefreakoh he didnt want 4?12:56
rahultrying12:56
gnomefreak:(12:56
pixelfairyBrickMaker: did you install that?12:56
Kyralgnomefreak: the Breezy Kernel is compiled with 3.412:56
pixelfairythere should be a javasomething.so12:56
gnomefreak2.6.12 is12:56
pixelfairythat you can sym link to12:56
studio208203gedit was not able to automatically detect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary file and try again selecting a character coding in the 'Open File...' (or 'Open Location') dialog.12:56
Kyralgnomefreak: cat /proc/version12:56
BrickMakerpixelfairy, yeah twice but still facing problem!12:56
gnomefreakKyral, good luck that wont work here12:56
Kyralstudio208203: what extension12:56
gnomefreaklol12:56
Kyralgnomefreak: I was telling YOU to do it12:56
BrickMakerpixelfairy, i hope you maybe help me much better then others!12:56
gnomefreakKyral, i cant im not on linux atm12:57
Stormx2Could someone give me some alternatives to The GIMP?12:57
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pixelfairyBrickMaker: how did you install java?12:57
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studio208203funny thing it\s listed as type unknown12:57
Kyralits how you figure out what GCC your kernel is compiled with12:57
cello_raspstudio208203: nano filname.ext :P12:57
lightbrightquacker: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html12:57
Kyralstudio208203: file <filename>12:57
studio208203I just saved it on my previous ubuntu12:57
Kyralit will tell you what type it is12:57
Azunaihi guys12:57
studio208203k12:57
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Kyraland it works ;P12:57
ssstormypixelfairy, that's fine, I couldn't find cinelerra anywhere and it wouldn't compile well from source12:57
rahulkyral: i am getting this message " sudo apt-get install gcc-3.412:57
amonkeyAzunai, hi12:57
rahulReading package lists... Done12:57
rahulBuilding dependency tree... Done12:57
rahulgcc-3.4 is already the newest version.12:57
rahul0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 56 not upgraded.12:57
rahul"12:57
Azunaii have a ati driver issue as im new to linux can anyone help12:57
BrickMakerpixelfairy, ./jre.bin12:57
amonkeythe forums, are they down?12:57
studio208203data12:57
Azunaiamonkey : hi12:57
BrickMakerchmod +x jr12:57
Kyralrahul: then just do this: export CC=gcc-3.412:57
cello_raspyes da forums r down12:57
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amonkeypoo12:57
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Kyralrahul: then run the installer (sudo it of course)12:58
senkilamy thoughts exactly amonkey12:58
studio208203it\s listed as data, and nano views it in weird characters12:58
mfvfound the answer - the package name is libexpat1-dev... a little tricky to find12:58
rahulkyral: ok12:58
Azunaican anyone advise me on a driver install?12:58
amonkeyany idea when they will back? was it planned?12:58
senkilanvidia-glx?12:58
quackerlightbright, I'd relax though, most worms and trojan propagate through insecure M$ implementations of protocols like SMB (NetBIOS/NTLanManager), HTML (IE/Windows explorer) ActiveX, DCOM+, RDP and of course SMTP 'M$ VirusLook Express'12:58
studio208203I\ts vital I can view those 2 documents since they contain evry password for my setup12:58
Azunaino an ATI driver :)12:58
senkilaamonkey: the forums have been like that for awhile12:58
patrick_Anyone here good with Gtkam and configuring it?  the program stop responding when I open a directory of my camera "Olympus D-360L" and then if you let it sit, the program just closes.12:58
lightbrightquacker: ok12:58
pixelfairyBrickMaker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see "Java on Mozilla Firefox"12:58
pixelmonkeyI cannot connect to my Ubuntu system using X11 forwarding, not even if I try it locally using ssh -X localhost.  When I try to run X11 applications, I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication."  ANyone know what's up?12:58
senkilaAzunai: no idea, always ued Nvidia =p12:58
pixelfairythats what i did12:58
amonkeysenkila, they only go down when i need them, sorry guys12:59
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AzunaiSenkila: damn lol12:59
senkilaamonkey: same here T_T12:59
senkilaAzunai: ;)12:59
Azunaiok im totaly new at linux12:59
Azunaihere is my problem12:59
Kyralpixelmonkey: do you have it enabled in your sshdconf? /etc/ssh/sshd_config12:59
Azunaii have the driver i need i think12:59
lightbrightAzunai: i have a website for you12:59
gnomefreaknight all12:59
studio208203is there a way_12:59
Azunaiits a rpm file so how do i install it?12:59
studio208203nigh gnome12:59
patrick_no help for gtkam?12:59
Azunaigo ahead lightbright?01:00
lightbrightAzunai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands01:00
KyralAzunai: look for a Deb?01:00
BrickMakerpixelmonkey, i done it with the same way but nothing happend01:00
pundaiAzunai, use alien01:00
AzunaiKyral there isnt one01:00
Azunaialien?01:00
Azunaiwhats alien?01:00
studio208203like I said, I saved&created those 2 documents on my old ubuntu install 2 hours ago, ftp from my other hdd to this new clean install and they are now turning up as binarys01:00
KyralO_o01:00
Kyralwhat driver01:00
pundaiAzunai, you want to install an rpm right01:00
Azunaiyes01:00
pixelmonkeyKyral, yes01:00
BrickMakerpixelmonkey, join me in #flood01:00
Azunaiseen as thats the only version i can find01:00
amonkeyanyone know a good cache site? the google cache of the forum page i want isn't working01:00
studio208203Kyral...sorry m8, but is there a way, can I convert em or something *noob here01:00
pundaiAzunai, then alien01:01
Kyralstudio208203: sorry...this is the first I have heard of this problem...01:01
senkilaamonkey: no idea ><!01:01
lightbrightAzunai: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide01:01
AzunaiPundai: i have no idea what u mean by alien01:01
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pundaigosh01:01
pundaigoogle alien rpm01:01
DiscipulusAzunai, he means use alien to install the rpm01:01
lightbright!alien01:01
ubotu[alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/01:01
pundai!ggl alien rpm01:01
ubotupundai: I haven't a clue01:01
pundai!rw01:01
ubotuSome people juggle geese, pundai01:01
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Discipulus!Disicpulus the Great01:02
ubotuDiscipulus: Huh?01:02
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Discipuluslol01:02
lightbrightAzunai: alien has always given me problems01:02
Kyralpixelmonkey: hmm...It works for me...hmm indeed01:02
Azunaisee now thats tech support direct urls :)01:02
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rahulkyral: it is still giving the same error01:02
studio208203Kyral. hmm I see... well i\m pretty much screwed if I cant view em, tx anyways man01:02
Azunaiis there no way to sort of extract an rpm or something01:02
Kyralrahul: no compile?01:02
Azunaiother than using alien?01:02
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rahulkyral: prompting me to change the cc environment to gcc-3.401:02
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DiscipulusAzunai, no01:02
Kyralrahul: thats what export CC=gcc-3.4 should do01:03
Kyraltry it in two steps01:03
Azunaihmm damn01:03
senkilaAnyway guys, i'll catch you lot later....NWN summons my l337 mage skills01:03
rahulkyral: that i have done export cc=gcc-3.401:03
Kyralrahul: CC=gcc-3.4 <RETURN> export CC01:03
senkila-=skitters off to pwn people with bad builds=-01:03
VR823hey all, where can i get the default sources.list?01:03
Kyralrahul: CC has to be Captial01:03
rahulkyral: ok i am doing it again01:04
KyralUnix is VERY case sensitive01:04
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KyralA != a ;P01:04
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pundaican someone explain why totem sucks01:05
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JarG0nDoes anyone recognize what shared library this is?  Should it come preinstalled with something? ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:05
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Azunaiok im totaly confused which driver do i download and install01:05
Kyralpundai: its not that Totem sucks01:05
Azunaihttps://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=30001:05
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Kyralits that GStreamer sucks ;P01:05
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KyralAzunai: try sudo apt-get install fglrx01:05
pundaiKyral, either way01:06
pundaiit can't play anything01:06
Azunaifglrx?01:06
Azunaifrom root?01:06
rahulkyral: now its giving message "unable to find the kernel source tree"01:06
Kyralyah01:06
Azunaiok one sec01:06
PraduHi, I am using Ubuntu right now and have installed gcc already.  But when I do sudo apt-get install codeblocks it doesn't work.01:06
studio208203Kyral I solved it01:06
studio208203I used a binary / text converter >D01:06
Kyralrahul: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)01:06
Azunaicouldnt find package fglrx01:06
studio208203I cant use smilies on my keyboard setup, but i am happy xD01:07
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KyralAzunai: then apt-cache search fglrx01:07
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Kyral!info codeblocks01:07
AlinuxOSubuntuforums is still dead :(((01:07
Pradu!info codeblocks01:07
VR823where can i get the default sources.list?01:07
pundaiPradu, i dont think codeblocks has a package01:07
Azunaiok i got loads of stuff come up01:07
Kyralubotu tell VR823 about sources01:07
coldanyone know how to create a ubuntu bootdisk ?01:07
Azunailol what am i looking for01:08
KyralAzunai: look for the one thats like xserver-drive01:08
rahulkyral: i think it will take some time as it ...... do i need to anything else after that or just compile the driver01:08
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pundaicold, forget ubuntu boot disks01:08
pundaijust get tomsrbt01:08
VR823Kyral  thanks01:08
Kyralrahul: that should be it01:08
lightbrightquacker: when I try to run bastille, it says: WARNING: /usr/bin/perl cannot find Perl module Tk.01:08
pundai99% of the time that will do what you need it to do01:08
lightbrightquacker: any solution?01:08
rahulkyral: its done01:08
cello_raspi havea bttv-based card but there is no /dev/video entry01:08
coldpundai what is that ?01:08
pundaiits a rescue disk01:08
VR823!easysource01:08
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic01:08
rahulkyral: i am going to try it again01:09
Azunaiclosest thing to that would be xorg-driver-fglrx01:09
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Kyralrahul: If you closed the term you'll need to export again01:09
KyralAzunai: thats it01:09
FunkyELFI run Gentoo, and since everything is done manually, I controll what gets written to the MBR.  I guess I'm just wondering how much say I have in the partitioning scheme and the bootloader01:09
Azunaiso what do i do?01:09
rahulkyral: ok01:09
Kyralalso try fglrx-config01:09
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KyralAzunai: install it01:09
FunkyELFI want to make a dual boot machine.  Does the installer for ubuntu allow for this?01:09
KyralFunkyELF: as much as you want lol01:09
Azunaiapt-get install fglrx-config?01:09
coldpundai u talking about the one that come with the ubuntu installation disk ?01:09
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KyralFunkyELF: there is the basic and Expert01:09
KyralAzunai: and the xserver driver thing01:09
Azunaiso apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx01:10
Kyralsudo apt-get install01:10
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Azunaii was already in root01:10
Azunaiitd downloadin some stuff01:10
KyralAzunai: don't make a hait of that....01:10
Kyralhabit even01:11
Azunaino i ment loged into console as root01:11
Kyralyah01:11
Kyralstill01:11
Azunaidid it as soon as i logged onto here01:11
Kyraldon't make a habit ;P01:11
Azunaii wont :)01:11
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Azunaitry and avoid console as much as i can incase i screw something up01:11
Kyralanyway install fglrx-config as well01:11
Azunaiok01:11
KyralOh the console is safe01:11
quackerlightbright, try installing Tk8.4 seperately and look in the 'recommended' section for the Perl mod (using Synaptic)01:11
Kyralif you don't login as root all the time...01:11
Azunaino i always login to gnome as me01:12
Azunaithen sudo su in console if i need it01:12
Azunaiman ive learned alot today i only installed linux 20 mins ago01:12
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Azunailol01:12
Kyrallol01:12
KyralSee01:12
quackerlightbright, or search the Development section01:12
KyralIMO, you learn more by breaking01:12
Azunainever used it before01:12
Kyralthen having the GUI do it for you ;P01:12
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Azunaiu mean fglrx conroll01:13
Azunai?01:13
VR823when i do sudo apt-get update, i get the following message: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory   -   what's that about?01:13
KyralHarmless01:14
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Azunaijryal u mean the fglrx-control cus there is no -config?01:14
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KyralAzunai: yah that01:14
Azunaiok :)01:14
KyralI think...01:14
KyralI use NVidia myself.. lol01:14
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Azunaiman ive learned so much today :D01:15
Azunaithis place is awesome01:15
Azunairight there installed01:15
mint__az01:15
Azunai?01:15
Azunaiyeh mint01:15
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mint__im in the same boat as you01:15
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mint__trying to install the firefox upgarde01:15
mint__no idea what im doing01:15
Kyraloy01:15
mint__lol01:16
mint__i know01:16
Azunaiyeah scary aint it u go from knowing everything in windows to knowing nothing in linux01:16
Azunailol01:16
KyralFF 1.5 has a HIGH chance of breaking Breezy01:16
Azunaiall i did was click on the logo thing at the top of my screen and it updated everything for me01:16
JarG0nanyone know of any mirrors or any other way of obtaining libsdl1.2debian-alsa from http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libsdl1.2debian-alsa  ?? :(01:16
AzunaiKyral: ive installed what u said now what do i do?01:17
metaljust a quick question: where's the irssi folder?01:17
KyralAzunai: reboot X?01:17
mint__Can someone help me install the new Firefox? I keep getting "Exclusiv Lock" error01:17
Kyralmetal: in the Homedir?01:17
Azunaihow? just reboot my computer?01:17
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KyralAzunai: no, CTRL+ALT+Backspace01:17
Azunaiohhhh :D01:17
Kyralif it works, X will come back01:17
Azunaiman i love you lot :-)01:17
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Azunaiand if it doesnt?01:17
Kyralif not, you will be dropped to a console ;P01:17
metalKyral, where exactly?01:17
Azunaiomg01:17
Azunaithen what am i suppost to do01:18
Azunailol01:18
rahulkyral: thanks driver is installed now01:18
FunkyELFdoes the installer have an option to install into LVM volumes or do I have to set that up manually off of a live CD before running the installation?01:18
Azunaireinstall unbuntu if it dont work?01:18
navaronemetal, irssi is a terminal chat client...the folder is probably a hidden one in your home folder..go to home and in the file browser "view/hidden files"01:18
KyralAzunai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg01:18
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Kyralmetal: ~/.irssi01:18
Azunailet me write that down01:18
Azunailol01:18
uh-ohany reason to use initrd on a laptop since hardware wont change much?01:18
rahulkyral: but still i am not getting the full refresh rate option :(01:18
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Kyralrahul: oh01:19
Kyraldunno lol01:19
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metalKyral, thanks :)01:19
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Azunairight il be back soon i hope :)01:19
metalbut whats ~/.irssi?01:19
rahulanyone have the link to the site which tell modelline for the moniter with vsync and hsync01:19
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navaronerahul didi you add correct horiz/vert rates in the xorg.conf?01:19
metalcd ~/.irssi01:20
metal?01:20
stardusthi01:20
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navaronemetal folders marked /. are hidden01:20
JarG0nwhat is meant by multiverse and universe in Ubuntu?01:20
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metalok01:20
rahulnavarone: yeah i did that ..... anyways y u have written didi ???01:20
KyralJarG0n: seperate repos01:20
happyponcho42hi01:20
KyralJarG0n: still official01:20
navaronemetal in file browser go to home and then change settings to show hidden files...or maybe press ctrl+h01:20
metalcan i go into them with cd?01:20
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Kyralmetal: yes01:21
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metalive found it in filebrowser01:21
happyponcho42How come the Ubuntu English forums go offline so often?01:21
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happyponcho42it's been an often occurence lately01:21
AzunaiOMG it worked lol01:21
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navaronedidi write didi?01:21
JarG0nKyral: I need to install this ( To work around this, install the libsdl1.2debian-alsa package from universe. )  How can I do this?01:21
AzunaiKyral thank you :)01:21
Azunaii think it worked01:21
AzunaiX reloaded01:21
Azunaiwhich is alot further than i got before lol01:21
navaroneJarG0n, any chance or finding file in a package in repos?01:21
JarG0nwhere is that?01:22
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JarG0npackages.debian.org is down01:22
Kyralubotu: tell JarG0n about repos01:22
varsendaggerhello01:22
JarG0nthx01:22
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rahulnavarone: any idea about the refresh rate options01:22
varsendaggercan you see me?01:22
happyponcho42Are the English forums down for anyone else?01:22
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happyponcho42yes, I can see you varsendagger01:22
varsendaggerok01:22
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navaroneJarG0n, go to synaptic and search for file...utilizing packages outside from official repos can degrade system01:22
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BrickMaker!blackdown01:23
ubotuBrickMaker: I don't know01:23
varsendaggeri can't login to my default account something wrong with icesessions01:23
navaronerahul...paste xorg.conf in pastebin01:23
AzunaiKryal: thank you u really are a god01:23
varsendaggerall i did was install the cadega sessions01:23
navarone!java01:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs01:23
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KyralAzunai: I'm just somoene who loves to help people01:23
varsendaggercedaga demo tather01:23
varsendaggerrather01:23
Kyraland a Hacker ;P01:23
metalhow do i change the bg color to black?01:23
n00bhey fella's01:23
AzunaiKryal: in that case u can expect me around alot lol01:23
metalin irssi01:23
BrickMakerhow can i protect my system01:23
BrickMakerubuntu support firewall?01:24
rahulnavarone: pastebin ???01:24
Azunaii managed to install cedega on my own01:24
Kyralmetal: I just let Irssi take on the background of my term01:24
navarone!pastebin01:24
ubotuI heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:24
Azunaiabout to install my first game :)01:24
n00bUbuntu has this dictionary app yeah... i would like to get a thesaurus app how do i do that?01:24
KyralBrickMaker: Iptables is in all Linuxs01:24
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varsendaggerany one?01:24
Dr_WillisBrickMaker,  linux has firewalling built in. check out the Firestarter front end. if you watn more controll.01:24
navaroneubuntus dictionaries rock...<s>01:24
KyralBrickMaker: but a good frontend is Firestarter01:24
metalKyral, how do i change term bg then?01:24
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KyralIPTables owns :P01:24
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frazmanwHow can I add Network into nautalus window like have have in other distros?01:24
Kyralmetal: I assume GNOME-Terminal?01:24
BrickMaker!Firestarter01:24
ubotuUbuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.01:24
n00bnavarone, do yuou know where i can find a thesaurus version?01:24
ultramancool!pastebin01:24
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org01:24
metalKyral, yes01:24
Kyralmetal: look in the menubar and for preferences it should be under "current profile" or something01:25
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funkyMiNTok so i hit ctrl-alt-backspace01:25
AzunaiKryal: how do i install HL2 on cedega?01:25
^Ocean^is there a log that would tell me why "Configure network devices.." Fail on boot ?01:25
funkyMiNTi couldnt even get back to the desktop01:25
navaronen00b use synaptic and search for thesaurus01:26
^Ocean^right now i gota boot up and manual do ifconfig eth0 up01:26
KyralAzunai: Use Point2Play?01:26
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Kyral^Ocean^: Try the GNOME Network Control Panel01:26
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rahulnavarone: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750101:26
^Ocean^Kyral: were would that be ?01:26
Kyral^Ocean^: You use GNOME?01:27
Dr_WillisCedega forums have a section on HL2.01:27
^Ocean^Kyral, correct01:27
Azunaikryal: i just ran the tests on cedega and opengl direct rendering failed and 3d acceleration failed i have an ATI X850XT Platinum Edition? any ideas?01:27
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metalKyral, thx01:27
BrickMaker!ftp01:27
ubotuGood FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd01:27
Dr_WillisAzunai,  you set up the non-free ati drivers yet?01:27
Kyral^Ocean^: Find the Admin Menu (not that hard) and go to Network :P01:27
Dr_Willis!ati01:27
ubotumethinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1001:27
mattlhey.. i'm an OS X user, trying to make the move over to Ubuntu. I'd like to help out in anyway I can, getting Dapper to run on my iMac G5... I have it booted, at least :)01:27
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BrickMaker!gftp01:28
navaronerahul what model syncmaster?01:28
ubotuBrickMaker: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?01:28
AzunaiDr Willis: what you mean?01:28
Dr_Willismattl,  you proberly dont want to mess with dapper - its a work in progress01:28
johndarkhorseubotu: tell BrickMaker about msg the bot01:28
Kyralmattl: you understand Dapper is Devel and in development?01:28
^Ocean^Kyral, everything looks fine there tho...01:28
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Dr_WillisAzunai,  you installed the actual ati drivers (flgrx) for full 3d support yet?01:28
rahulnavarone: syncmaster 753s01:28
Kyral^Ocean^: Is eth0 set as the default Gateway Device?01:28
mattlDr_Willis/Kyral: Yeah, I can't get er.. Breezy is it, to even boot for me?01:28
rahulnavarone:17" moniter01:28
AzunaiDr_Willis: i just did apt-get install flgrz-driver and apt-get install fglrx-conrol? if thats what u mena?01:29
JarG0nIs  libsdl1.2debian-oss part of the official repos?01:29
Dr_Willismattl,  well i cant help ya there..01:29
^Ocean^Kyral hmm let me check.  for some reason the program takes like 5min to load up...01:29
BrickMakerubotu, tell gftp01:29
KyralJarG0n: apt-cache policy <package> and see where it comes from01:29
Dr_WillisAzunai,  followign that "!ati" wiki page the bot just posted. i mean.01:29
Dr_Willishttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI01:29
AzunaiDr_Willis: im a complete noob lol u make no sense01:29
mattlDr_Willis: I accept that it might not work for me until Dapper is properly released, but at least for now, I figure I can test Live CDs and report good bugs and things.01:30
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JarG0nlibsdl1.2debian-oss:01:30
JarG0n  Installed: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-5.3ubuntu201:30
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JarG0n??01:30
Azunaiil check it out01:30
Dr_WillisAzunai,  go read at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   - you MUST have the actual ATI drivers up and going right - for full 3d support.01:30
BrickMaker!kbear01:30
ubotuBrickMaker: Not a clue01:30
frazmanwthanks I figured out how to add network icon myself..01:30
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neonshadowsadf01:30
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neonshadowaw yes im back in01:31
AzunaiDr_Willis: doing it now i think lol01:31
Azunaiits downloading stuff lol thats a good sign :)01:31
Locke_hi, when i start up Ubuntu when it gets to the 4th step it says "cannot initialize "init.d/rcS" and hangs, any idea's01:32
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funkyMiNTis this good for a n00b to use01:32
funkyMiNThttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion01:32
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funkyMiNTall im trying to do is learn the basics01:32
tonyyarussoJarG0n, Yes.01:32
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Azunaiis there no apt-get servers with a damn 100mb/s servers lol 200kbs is way to slow for downloading01:32
funkyMiNTaz, what is apt-get01:32
mattlAre the Ubuntu forums down?01:33
funkyMiNTthink so01:33
rahulmattl: yeah01:33
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Azunaii aint sure mate lol im been on linux for 30 mins :P its a way of getting programs i think kinda like a basic ftp through console i think then again i could be way off01:33
JarG0nhow do I install libsdl1.2debian-oss ? It's in synaptic.01:33
tonyyarusso!apt-get01:34
ubotuI guess apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto01:34
KyralApt-Get owns :D01:34
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n00bhey guys, whats the advantadge of using deb files?01:34
tonyyarussoAzunai, funkyMiNT ^^01:34
Azunaimy friends is better :)01:34
Azunaihe types something like01:34
Azunaiemerge - atidrivers01:34
tonyyarusson00b, As opposed to source or rpm?01:34
Azunaiand it installed them01:34
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happyponcho42can anyone see what i type?01:34
metalyeah01:34
oceandeadyes01:34
BrickMakerhow can view Firestarter?01:34
happyponcho42excellent01:34
mattlhappyponcho42: No.01:34
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happyponcho42mattl, do you know when the forums will be back up?01:35
n00bas opposed to both01:35
navaronerahul I checked your horiz/vert and the setting are right...I can't see what else would be wrong01:35
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mattlhappyponcho42: Soon, I hope, but I have nothing to do with them. :)01:35
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KyralAzunai: that was Portage01:35
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happyponcho42oh, i see your name in red so i figured you're an op?01:35
KyralAzunai: Gentoo Linux's claim to fame01:35
rahulnavarone : thanks .... thats wat i am thinking wat is wrong01:35
BrickMakerubotu, tell firestarter01:35
tonyyarusson00b, Well, re: source, you don't have to compile anything.  re: rpm, they're better at figuring out dependencies.01:35
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happyponcho42and i assumed ops in irc would have some kind of relation to the big guys at ubuntu01:36
zblachhi, "sound juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: Invalid Parameters"01:36
rahulnavarone : this thing is really buggin me01:36
navaroneBrickMaker, is it installed? If so then Applications/SystemTools/Firestarter01:36
BrickMakerhow can i view file starter?01:36
mattlhappyponcho42: If I'm an op already, I'm worried ;)01:36
BrickMakerInstalled01:36
n00band what about deb?01:36
happyponcho42lol im sorry01:36
rahulnavarone : any other idea01:36
mattlIt's cool01:36
Kyraln00b: what about deb?01:36
tonyyarusso!tell happyponcho42 about ops01:36
navaronerahul...what vid card?01:36
happyponcho42im new to XChat, the colors confuse me01:36
n00bwhats so good about deb?01:36
rahulnavarone : 7800GTX 256MB01:36
happyponcho42I've used irc but a different client01:37
tonyyarussohappyponcho42, Those are the nicks of ops, should you ever need them.  Use responsibly.01:37
BrickMakernavarone, no theres ain't firestarter01:37
navaronerahul...and you can't lower/raise refresh rate?01:37
Azunairight i need to reboot for this damn ati driver01:37
happyponcho42ah thank you tonyyarusso01:37
Kyraln00b: You will find in the Unix world there are many ways to do the same thing, and everyone has an opinion :P01:37
Azunaii just hope this works01:37
defendguinif i wanted to restart hald how would i do it?01:37
Azunaisee you in a minuite hopefully01:37
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n00bok01:37
happyponcho42ohh, i see, the program automatically turns whatever is directed towards me into text with red font?01:37
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navaroneBrickMaker, if it is installed try pressing alt-f2 and type firestarter and enter/ok to try01:37
Kyralhappyponcho42: yes :P01:37
happyponcho42I'm still getting adjusted to this XChat, lol, without the Ubuntu Forums, I feel homeless01:38
englawhat kind of help does ubuntuforums need to get back online?01:38
JarG0nHow can I install libsdl1.2debian-oss ?01:38
englaand what is our best backup forum?01:38
engla /backup community01:38
Kyralengla: there are bigtime changes going down01:38
englaKyral: you imply this was planned?01:38
n00bguys i cant find the front end for the thesaurus in ubuntu... where is it?01:38
navaronehappyponcho42, if you want to tell a specific person soemthing user their nick so they can see the right line01:38
rahulnavarone : i have 85Hz option upto 1024x768 resolution but when i change the resolution to 1280x960 the only refresh rate option i get is 60 ..... where mine moniter suppports 1280x960@72Hz01:38
BrickMakernavarone, error, you must have root access to use firestarter01:39
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happyponcho42navarone, gotcha01:39
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zblachhow can i fix my sound juicer? :(01:39
varsendaggerhey http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/51832901:39
synackuatorhow do I make it so beep opens my mp3s when i double click the files instead of xmms?01:39
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cappicardhmm... any ETA on when or whether the forums will come back up?01:39
varsendaggerplease somebody look at my pastebin and tell me how pt fix it please?01:40
jared_can someone give me a link or guide me through the process to compile the spca5xx01:40
robotichow do I tell ubuntu installer to do a server type install without me having to interrupt and type it ?01:40
Kyralengla: word is that they are moving to a new server right now01:40
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navaronerahul I've nevr gone above 1024x768 myself01:40
mintdpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege01:40
macgyver2Heh, maybe they blew their old server by automatix-ing it01:40
cappicardKyral: ah ok.01:40
minthow do i give myself these rights?01:40
jared_mint, use sudo01:40
minti used this01:40
jared_put sudo in front of the command01:40
rahulnavarone : ohh ok01:40
cappicardmacgyver2: heh01:40
mint$ sudo apt-get install libstdc++501:41
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mintand it asked for a pass01:41
minti gave it he pass01:41
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mintand then i get01:41
jared_dunno then01:41
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mintE: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.01:41
cappicardKyral: no ETA or if it's being mirrored someplace else in the interim?01:41
navaronesynackuator, right click mp3 file in file browser and choose open with and select beep...set as default01:41
englasynackuator: in nautilus, look at properties for the file, look at the tab "open with"01:41
cappicardmint, sudo dpkg --configure -a   ;)01:41
englasynackuator: for any mp301:41
rahulnavarone :is there anyway to force refresh rate in linux01:41
mintthats what i did01:41
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mintoh01:41
Kyralcappicard: "soon"01:41
jared_does any one know hot to compile the spca5xx driver?01:41
patrick_How do I get divx codecs and other mpeg codecs so totem or rythmbox can play those formats?01:41
navaronerahul...no idea01:42
Kyralubotu: tell patrick_ about w32codecs01:42
cappicardKyral: heh. ok. gotta love the specificity of stuff like that. oh well01:42
rahulnavarone :ok ..... anyways thanks a lot for the help01:42
navaroneno prob01:42
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happyponcho42ubotu, tell happyponcho42 about gnome-art01:42
Kr0ntabsup people01:43
n00bGUYS GUYS how in the WORLD do i install the THESAURUS so it also has a GUI01:43
happyponcho42ah ok01:43
mintso is this they way you install everything in linux01:43
patrick_thanks Kyral01:43
mintfrom the terminal01:43
Kyralmint: not neccessarily01:43
lysismint, you can install from synaptic01:43
theSamois it okay to install(dpkg) a dapperdrake deb on breezy provided i have all the depsendencies01:43
Kyralbut its how you do in Ubuntu01:43
theSamo?01:43
KyraltheSamo: Be careful...01:43
KyralDapper is in Devel01:43
jared_does anyon eknow about the space5xx driver?01:43
happyponcho42Kyral, first look, thought you said Dapper is the Devil01:43
tonyyarussotheSamo, You can do it, but be prepared for whatever might happen if you do.01:43
happyponcho42anyone running Dapper right now?01:44
Kyralhappyponcho42: Hell no, I run it now ;P01:44
tonyyarussohappyponcho42, I saw the same thing!01:44
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navaronen00b sudo apt-get install dict-moby-thesaurus  <-- should then be accessible thru dictionary frontend gui01:44
theSamotonyyarusso: whats the worse case scenario01:44
happyponcho42Kyral, how's it running?  Any difference from Breezy?01:44
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oceandeadrahul youll have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add a modeline - im not exactly sure what youd put in there though01:44
theSamoi mean its some audio package after all01:44
oceandeadhowto was in forums but forums are down01:44
patrick_hey Kyral, I got this error when following the page instructions dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):01:44
patrick_ cannot access archive: No such file or directory01:44
patrick_Errors were encountered while processing:01:44
patrick_ w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb01:44
keveretsQuestion:  How does one blank a CD-RW (say, an old Ubuntu install disk) in Breezy?01:44
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oceandeadill check google cache01:45
Kyralhappyponcho42: new packages, new X01:45
n00bnavarone, i did install that but there is no sign of it appearing in the dictionary GUI01:45
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quackertheSamo, there is no reason it shouldn't work, if like you said, you have all the dependencies.  I'd install libs using a pkg mgr though to avoid the chance of conflicts or unwanted upgrades.01:45
happyponcho42patrick_, install using synaptic01:45
oceandeadsee if i can find it for ya01:45
happyponcho42patrick_, enable universal and non-free repositories01:45
keveretsInserting it causes it to be mounted immediately, and then gnomebaker and k3b can't erase it.01:45
patrick_what is synaptic?01:45
tonyyarussotheSamo, Well, the worst case scenario is always that everything borks, your processor fries, melting through your hard disk and motherboard, and you end up with a really expensive paperweight.  What's the likely wcs?  I don't know; haven't tried Dapper.01:45
ki4ikl!spca5xx01:45
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ki4ikl01:45
patrick_and how do I enable that?01:45
ki4iklwhoops01:45
ki4ikldidn't mean to type that in here01:45
Kyralpatrick_: Its in the GNOME Menus01:45
theSamookay, thanks guys01:45
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rahuloceandead: thats right .... there was a site where if u enter hsync and vsync it will output the model line but i forgot name of the site .....if someone knows it please tell me01:45
happyponcho42patrick_, System -> Administration -> Synaptic01:45
navaronen00b didi you try finding it in the drop down menu for the databases?01:45
quackertheSamo, but if you're going to do all that, why not build it from source?  (Is it in Java, C or C++?)01:45
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happyponcho42patrick_, ah the forums have nicer how-to guides step to step but they're down01:46
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mintthings are not showing miniized in the taskbar??? how do i get this back?01:46
happyponcho42patrick_, let me see if the wiki has it01:46
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theSamoquacker: c++ i think01:46
tehsmoso, what's the right thing to apt-get install for xorg on a desktop?01:46
theSamoquacker: i might just do that01:46
Kyraltehsmo: you don't have it now?01:46
n00bnavarone, which one is it?01:46
tonyyarussotehsmo, xserver-xorg, I believe.01:46
tehsmonope, basic net-install for teh win01:46
AzunaiDr_willis: i did what that site u gave me said and it wouldnt load X i had to do dpkg-reconfigure command01:46
theSamoKyral: no, there is no package for it on breezy01:46
quackertheSamo, so get a makefile for your jkernel achitecture from CVS, install kernel headers using apt and away you go01:46
theSamoi had it on a prev. OS01:46
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navaronen00b look for moby something01:47
Kyraltehsmo: xserver-xorg should give you the basics01:47
tehsmocool01:47
KyralSHOULD01:47
happyponcho42patrick_, http://ubuntuguide.org/ is a nice guide for you01:47
KyralNo UbuntuGUIDE!01:47
quackertehsmo, Breezy or Dapper?01:47
Dr_WillisAzunai,  i followed that wiki. and it took me all of 2 min to get the ati drivers working right. If you cant get 3d support working with them. then you can write off playing 3d games.01:47
tehsmo5.10?01:48
happyponcho42patrick_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories is to add the extra repositories01:48
johndarkhorsehappyponcho42: please don't recommend ubuntuguide01:48
johndarkhorse!ubuntuguide01:48
ubotufrom memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead01:48
n00bnavarone, okay i found... now how do i make it so that it searches through both the thesaurus and the dictionary?01:48
rixthHow can I find out how many file descriptors are in use?01:48
AzunaiSOD that01:48
Azunailol01:48
Azunaiim gunna try again01:48
Azunai:D01:48
Azunailol01:48
happyponcho42johndarkhorse, what's wrong with ubuntuguide?01:48
JarG0nCan anybody assist me in doing what's described here?  This bug is preventing me from launching quake 4 on Ubuntu.  http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/#head-a0995b8d4f543e7cd8ceec66965708479f9ad7dc01:48
quackerDr_Willis, not necessarily... sometimes Wine... jejeje...01:48
tonyyarussohappyponcho42, See the factoid ^^.01:48
mintSo I have synaptics open, and the firefox folder here01:48
happyponcho42tonyyarusso, factoid?01:49
happyponcho42!ubuntuguide01:49
ubotuubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead01:49
minthow do i get it to install01:49
n00bnavarone, i figured that out... thanks for the help :)01:49
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happyponcho42ah i see01:49
tehsmohmm, xserver-xorg got the basics ..it didn't get 'startx', though, somehow01:49
Dr_Willisquacker,  with no 3d support. :O guess ya can  'wine sol.exe'01:49
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Dr_WillisJarG0n,  yoyu been fighting all day now to get 1 game going. :P01:49
navaronen00b is it in the dictionary?01:49
ki4ikldoes anyone know much about the spca5xx01:49
oceandeadrahul - http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:5BZGkcPqasAJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html+ubuntu+add+refresh+rate+modeline+xorg.conf&hl=en01:49
patrick_thanks I'll read it, happyponcho01:49
Dr_WillisJarG0n,  you have been trying to get the game installed longer then I actually Played that game01:49
Dr_Willishee hee.01:49
AzunaiDr_willis: i think i messed up big style01:50
n00bnavarone, yes it is01:50
BrickMakerwhy not Conexant modem drivers are built-in yet?01:50
Azunaibefore i did any of this i installed a driver from the ati site01:50
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Azunaihow do i uninstall it?01:50
isadorhey all :P01:50
keveretsno ideas on the cd-rw blanking front?01:50
tonyyarussoBrickMaker, Legality.01:50
lysisAzunai, you can't.  since you're running linux it's there forever!01:50
JarG0nDr_Willis> That doesn't sound good!01:50
zblachwhy am i having so much trouble ripping a cd?01:51
Dr_WillisAzunai,  heh ..01:51
AzunaiLysis so i should do what? reinstall linux?01:51
isadorim new to the whole linux thing and ive been trying to switch to root in ubuntu01:51
quackerDr_Willis, have you read the latest press releases from Wine about benchmarks beating native win32 apps by up to 43% with the older 2D rendering methods (yeah, 'press releases', I know, I know...)01:51
BrickMakertonyyarusso, yeah i buy the driver licence from the modem site but ubuntu must introduced01:51
lysisAzunai, it was a joke . . .     how did you install ati's driver?01:51
Azunailol01:51
tonyyarusso!tell isador about root01:51
Azunaii been using linux like 40 mins :D01:51
KyralBrickMaker: Doesn't matter if YOU bought it01:51
Azunaierm01:51
isadorin the install , they didnt ask me for a root username and pass01:51
Dr_WillisAzunai,  you do NOT need to get stuff from the ati site - follow that wiki is what you need to do.01:51
Azunaii went to ati's site01:51
Azunaiand downloaded the 32mb file01:52
lysis!tell isador about root01:52
Azunaithen went into console01:52
KyralBrickMaker: it matters that distributiing it wihtout paying is illegal01:52
quackerAzunai, NONONONO01:52
Azunaiand did ./ati driver01:52
BrickMakerKyral, matter because linux is known as open source and its cost nothing01:52
Azunaiso is there a way i can remove that01:52
KyralBrickMaker: Linux is01:52
tonyyarussoBrickMaker, As much as we might like them to be included in Ubuntu, it's simply not possible, unless you can convince Conexant to change their minds.01:52
Dr_Willisquacker,  :P dosbox - has all the games we need!01:52
KyralBrickMaker: the driver may not be ;P01:52
Dr_WillisAzunai,  dident follow the wiki then eh?01:52
BrickMakerso drivers and other stuff must be in free as well01:52
Azunaiyeah01:52
KyralBrickMaker: Bingo01:52
quackerDr_Willis, Amen, brother Dr_Willis01:52
happyponcho42Has anyone attempted to run AOL through wine?01:52
patrick_hey it says those repositores don't exist01:52
Azunaii did dr willis but for some reason x wouldnt load?01:52
JarG0nDr_Willis: Can you help? :(01:52
BrickMakerlol01:52
tonyyarussoBrickMaker, If you'd like to pay the $20 for every person who installs Ubuntu though, be my guest.01:52
happyponcho42My family members refuse to tryout Linux without AOL.01:53
BrickMakerlol01:53
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Dr_WillisJarG0n,  proberly not.  since i dont know exactly what yoru problem is.01:53
quackerDr_Willis, actually, I play NWN on Linux, but that has native Linux binaries01:53
Parsniplo aach01:53
BrickMakeri pay 14$ i think for getting conexant modem driver licence01:53
Kyralhappyponcho42: shoot them?01:53
lysishappyponcho42, tell them aol is the devil.   and it's too expensive . . .01:53
Dr_WillisJarG0n,  is there a quake4 demo you are using? or the official one?01:53
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Parsnipif im running the amd64 ubuntu woody distro01:53
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navaronehappyponcho42, I highly doubt it will work...probablty not even thru wine01:53
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Dr_Willisquacker,  i need to try that out some time.. i got it some where in this pile of disks01:53
KyralParsnip: amd?01:53
Parsnipdo i need to download the windows64 bit drivers01:53
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phaedWhat is the estimate on how many people use Ubuntu now?01:53
dwerfi came up with a nickname for Windows: SMODNIM. get it?01:53
happyponcho42ah ok01:53
tehsmoif they insist that much on aol, I think they're a lost cause regarding linux01:53
mintKyral: how do i load the new firefix into synaptics?01:53
JarG0nDR_Willis: On that url I posted above, it gives the bug listed.  THe exact error I get is "./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory01:53
JarG0n"01:53
patrick_happyponcho42, it says those repositories no longer exist.01:53
BrickMakerwhat if ubuntu team introduced conexant modem drivers for free as built-in01:53
lysisphaed, 42.01:54
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Kyralmint: use Dapper01:54
Azunaican i somhow uninstall this ati driver i installed so i can do the other installl dr willis or do i just do that other install anyways01:54
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Parsnipas my acer supports both 64bit and 32bit01:54
mintwhats Dapper01:54
Kyralmint: I will not explain how to in Breezy because of Breakage01:54
Kyral!dapper01:54
ubotumethinks dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.01:54
lysismint, dapper is the new release, coming out in april01:54
Parsnipcan anyone please advise?01:54
lysismint, i wouldn't recommend dapper since it's in development.01:54
Azunaii have the latest release01:54
Dr_Willis!info libSDL01:54
mintKyral: i dont follow01:54
lysisParsnip, what's up?01:54
Azunaii think01:54
happyponcho42patrick_, I'm sorry, disregard ubuntuguide01:54
mintim just starting on linux01:55
mintfirst day01:55
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Azunaii know the feeling mint01:55
happyponcho42patrick_, if only the forums were back :(01:55
mintand i just want to install the new firefox01:55
lysismint, congrats!01:55
tonyyarussomint, Good for you!01:55
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Kyralmint: Firefox reaches deep into Ubuntu, a lot of things depend on it01:55
Parsniplysis, If im installing kubuntu on amd64 and have the amd64 breezy installed01:55
Bokihello01:55
mintso its not easy to just upgrade it?01:55
Kyralmint: if something changes wrong, then massive breakage could happen01:55
lysisParsnip, i'm not seeing a question in what you're saying.01:55
Parsniplysis, do i need the 64bit drivers from my lappys manufacturers site01:55
patrick_happyponcho42, is it because I'm on the 5.10 and those are refering to 5.04?01:55
mintits a VMWare machine01:55
minti dont care01:55
Kyralmint: not Firefox01:55
Bokiwhat is going on with ubuntu forums?01:55
Dr_WillisJarG0n,   fire up synaptic and isntall the libsdl stuff I guess. :P01:55
Parsnipas both 64bit and 32bit are catered for01:55
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quackerDr_Willis, it's a'rush' just having your version listed as 'Neverwinter Nights-Linux-x.y.z' on matching services01:56
BrickMakerubuntu is most useable os now a days in world01:56
dwerfWINDOWS = SMODNIM01:56
lysisParsnip, does your laptop produce 64bit drivers for linux?   and does ubuntu have support for you right now with amd64 with breezy 64?01:56
KyralBoki: they are movng to another server01:56
quackerTAKE THAT< BILL!!01:56
BokiThanks01:56
happyponcho42patrick_, type !ubuntuguide01:56
lysis!tell patrick_ about ubuntuguide01:56
Parsniplysis, im having to use ndiswrapper for my wifi as its a broadcom (grr)01:56
patrick_1ubuntuguide01:56
JarG0nDr_Willis: It's already installed, but there's a bug in it.  THese instructions tell me to install something as an alternative " Some Debian and Debian-based distributions ( like Ubuntu ) are crashing during startup. It appears this is caused by the SDL packages selection. You need to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead of libsdl1.2debian-all. "01:56
AzunaiDr_willis: ive done everything in that top part of that link u sent me01:56
patrick_hmm01:56
Parsniplysis, will either driver do?01:56
patrick_!ubuntuguide01:56
ubotuhmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead01:56
puff-NNYHi, im somewhat new to IRC and linux raiding. i'm trying to raid two sata drives. The onboard promise and intel raid controllers didnt seem to work in the ubuntu setup since i still saw the drives individually (mobo is asus PC-DL Delux). So now im trying to do a software raid in the ubuntu install. Would anybody mind helping me with this issue and possibly walking me through it?01:56
patrick_oookay01:56
patrick_lol01:56
AzunaiDr_willis: but when i reboot it will not load x u any ideas why?01:57
lysisParsnip, i unfortunately don't know. =(        you CAN use 32bit.   32bit has MUCH more support and a million times more applications.   apps designed for 32bit might not work / have a 64bit version.   please keep that in mind.01:57
happyponcho42patrick_, there are a lot of nice how-to's on the forums, if you can wait til they come back online, you can find your answer there01:57
lysis32bit will still run amazingly.01:57
Bokidoes anyone know where I could download icon manager for gnome? the link was on forums but it is inaccessible now01:57
Dr_WillisJarG0n,  try apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-alsa01:57
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happyponcho42patrick_, otherwise, I'm not sure how detailed of a tutorial i can type up in a chat01:57
drummer87hi, i've just done a fresh install of breezy and have no sound... dunno what to do.01:57
Parsniplysis, i understand, thanks for the spot01:57
JarG0nok01:57
Dr_WillisAzunai,  my guess is - either you missed a step.. or that card is not supported.01:57
Azunaihow can it not be supported?01:58
happyponcho42patrick_, what kind of files are you trying to play?01:58
Azunaiits an X850XT PE01:58
Dr_WillisAzunai,  that leaves you Missing a step then01:58
mint(mint@MINTx:~$01:58
mint) how do i get into the desktop01:58
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lysisAzunai, as a whole, ATi cards just do NOT perform well in linux.01:58
mintto show the content01:58
mints01:58
patrick_happyponcho42, MP3s Divx encoded movies01:58
lysismint, type 'startx'01:58
JarG0nDr_Willis: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)01:58
JarG0nE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?01:58
Azunaibut i cant afford a crapy nvidia card :(01:58
lysisAzunai, what game you going for?01:58
KyralNVidia != crap ;P01:58
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Parsnipmmmm 7800GTX Black pearl 512Mb (water cooled as standard)01:59
mintxauth:  creating new authority file /home/mint/.serverauth.761401:59
mintX: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.01:59
drummer87pls help... are there extra modules i need? i can't remember from my previous install.01:59
Parsniptasty tasty01:59
minthow am i not authorized01:59
patrick_Radeon = Booya01:59
drummer87it's onboard sound on an nForce3 mobo01:59
AzunaiLysis: Counter-Strike Source, WOW and Quake 3 ut2k4 aswell but thats native linux01:59
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GameOver69hey i have installed ndiswrapper properly and my wireless works... and i set up the interfaces file as i am supposed to... but my wlan0 wont boot up with the computer i always have to type dhclient wlan0 in the terminal01:59
lysisKyral, not in linux.   AND nvidia has blown away ati for 3/4 of 2005.   just now finally ati is COMPARABLE.01:59
Bokihow to get icon manager for Gnome anyone?01:59
Kyralmint: in a VM things goes sketchy01:59
Kyrallysis: I said !=01:59
lysisAzunai, you might consider selling you 850 on ebay and picking up an nvidia friend.01:59
GameOver69anyone know how to have it start up properly01:59
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Kyral!= means NOT Equal01:59
ubotuKyral: Did you get hit by a windmill?01:59
happyponcho42patrick_, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats01:59
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adubdoes anyone run vmware??02:00
happyponcho42patrick_, there's a lot of information there02:00
drummer87and forums are sown :( so can't get help there02:00
lysisKyral, i guess i'm not following.  lol02:00
puff-NNYWould somebody be so kind as to help me setup software raid in the ubuntu install?02:00
AzunaiLysis i payed 400 for this card il get like 100 on ebay :S its just not worth it02:00
patrick_happyponcho42, after i finally get this working I can get my soundblaster 24bit to show up instead of it detecting as audigy LS02:00
lysisKyral, i was unaware that != meant not equal . . .02:00
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happyponcho42patrick_, scroll down to the section titled The Codecs and that's where w32codecs come up02:00
MrRiohow do i use kde and gnome together on ubuntu? which package do i need to install?02:00
happyponcho42patrick_, was that a question?02:00
lysisAzunai, why'd you pay $400 for it?   you can buy it right now from ati's site for under 202:00
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drummer87MrRio, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:01
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drummer87or ubuntu-desktop if u have kubuntu02:01
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drummer87and u can select from gdm02:01
mintby default should I have permission to run StartX02:01
AzunaiLysis no mines an ATI X850 XT Platinum Edition (by saphire) its a little better than the one on the ati site :)02:01
mintor do i need to adjust something02:01
ali_anyone here use gnu mailman? i'm wondering how to restrict addresses tha can send to the list. anyone got any ideas?02:01
Azunailsysis: its also about 3 months old now :)02:01
lysisAzunai, fair enough . . .  it still unfortunately won't perform well in linux.02:01
patrick_happyponcho42, kind of but not really the main concern at the moment, I have sound and it works correctly.  I just want to make sure its detected correctly, but as long as it works good, it's ok for now.02:02
ali_lysis: why not? don't the ati drivers work for it?02:02
Azunailysis: that sucks if these flgrx drivers wont work should i try the latest ones from the ati site?02:02
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lysisali_, the drivers work but ati isn't putting time or effort into making it as rock solid as it is in windows.  nvidia can make their cards outperform windows . . .02:02
navaronepatrick try "lspci -l | grep audio"  in termianl should come back with your audio device02:02
happyponcho42patrick_, ah sorry, i wasn't sure if it was a 'i can' or 'can i'.  i honestly have no idea regarding sound, perhaps someone else can chime in to assist you02:03
lysisali_, it's a lose lose situation either way, definitely install fglrx like the wiki says.02:03
Azunailysis: and if x doesnt load?02:03
ali_lysis: oh i don't have an ati card :)02:03
lysisali_, if you want to game, i have no good news for you.  i tried cedega, crossover office, wine, everything . . .02:03
lysisAzunai, i'm sorry?02:03
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ali_lysis: thats why I've got an xbox :)02:04
Aaron_Masonhey all02:04
patrick_happyponcho42, Well I'm pretty sure it's suppose to show up as the audigy LS, considering it's the exact same chip set.02:04
Azunailysis if X doesnt load this time should i just try intaling the ATI drivers?02:04
lysisali_, me too =)02:04
isadorDAMN , cant anyone tell me how to switch to root ???02:04
ali_lysis: :D02:04
Azunaiali: theres no CSS or WOW on xbox tho :)02:04
Azunaiisador02:04
Aaron_Masonisador, sudo your commands02:04
lysisAzunai, i do not recommend using the ati drivers.   if you follow the directions in the wiki TO A TEE then you should have no problems.02:04
ali_isador: sure i can, but thats no reason to scream02:04
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AzunaiSudo su02:04
navaronepatrick_ try "lspci -l | grep audio" to see if it lists the correct device02:04
isador...02:04
isadorim TOTALLY new02:04
lysisAzunai, we don't like those games.  haha02:04
cr1msonHow do I install Add Application to the GNOME panel?02:04
oceandeadby default there is no root account - use sudo instead02:04
Aaron_Masonoh, snap02:04
lysisisador, root is disabled.02:04
ali_Azunai: haha don't say that!! :)02:04
isadorso i dont even know how to input thoz commands02:04
tonyyarussoisador, Then you shouldn't be switching to root.02:04
Aaron_Masonso you can get into root access02:04
mintAz02:05
Azunailysis: i copied and pasted every single command in the thing first i did apt-get install the new kernal thing02:05
puff-NNYAnybody here that would be kind enough to take some time and help me with a raid setup?02:05
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mintdid u have any problems with the StartX02:05
isador... im trying to switch to root cuz i cant do anything without it02:05
Azunaithen xorg-driver02:05
tonyyarussoisador, sudo does everything.02:05
lysisAzunai, that could've been the problem.  i skipped the kernel portion and it worked PERFECTLY for me.02:05
oceandeadisador - sudo02:05
ali_isador: do you want to do something in gnome or on the command line02:05
isador...02:05
SosonHi02:05
Aaron_Masondoes anybody know why RhythmBox won't take my mp3 files? it just says "file is not a valid audio stream"02:05
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lysisisador, you should be using sudo.  not root.   root = disabled.02:05
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isadorhow am i supposed to input that ocmmand ???02:05
ali_Aaron_mason: you don't have the mp3 codec installed02:05
Azunailysis: Oh? i did everything it said02:05
isadorcommand*02:05
Aaron_Masonah02:05
tonyyarussoisador, Just put sudo in front of any command.02:06
oceandeadAaron_Mason, you have to have mp3 codec installed02:06
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askjivezDoes anyone know how to get Teamspeak to recognize my microphone?02:06
Aaron_Masoni'm new to ubuntu, where do I go to get it?02:06
lysisAzunai, i have a 9550 (budget line card . . . hehehe)   and i am running 16x12 on the desktop, gdesklets, all kinds of effects.  really working great02:06
Azunailysis: so if it fails to load x should i just reinstall ubuntu and try it without the kernel updae?02:06
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ali_Aaron_Mason: hold on a sec i'll tell ya02:06
navarone!mp302:06
ubotuI heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats02:06
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nandrocan anyone tell me where I can get Automatix? seems the forums have been down for a whle02:06
lysisAzunai, i might suggest that.  but i'm also one who has an unlimited amount of time for this. hehe02:06
KyralAutomatix == Bad02:06
ownernandro, they should be up02:06
ali_Aaron_Mason: go to the ubotu link02:06
ownerkyral lol02:06
Sosonanyone knows how can I turn on ubuntu without having the pc connecting to the network? I mean, when booting ubuntu it says "Waiting for networking interface to come up"...How can I "delete" this step02:06
nandrojust tried, no luck02:06
tonyyarusso!automatix02:07
ubotuit has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!02:07
lysishow do i check to see if fglrx is working properly again?   it checked for rendering or something . . . it had a | grep    in it . . .02:07
askjivez!teamspeak02:07
ubotuaskjivez: Bugger all, i dunno02:07
Azunailysis im a webdesigner lol all i do is work from home i have all the time in the world just STAY ONLINE lol02:07
isadorsudo: ./NVIDIA.run: command not found02:07
isadorthats what it says02:07
isador...02:07
Sosonanyone knows how can I turn on ubuntu without having the pc connecting to the network? I mean, when booting ubuntu it says "Waiting for networking interface to come up"...How can I "delete" this step02:07
askjivezCan anyone help me get my mic to work in Teamspeak?02:07
minthow do i change to the root int he terminal window02:07
happyponcho42Anyone experience the problem where you when you type n, it sometimes doesn't show up?  I'm always in the middle of typing something and at the end, i realize all the n's are missing02:07
Azunaido you actualy have to reboot ur os or can u just reboot X lysis?02:07
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askjivezmint, type su02:07
lysisisador, type sudo chmod +x NVIDIA.run        then ./NVIDIA.run         CAPS MATTER02:07
nandro !automatix02:07
ubotuhmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!02:07
jerham2651./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run02:07
navaroneAzunai...you made me jealous...<s>02:07
lysisAzunai, ubuntu by default boots into x02:07
Steilmint: sudo -s02:07
oceandeadaskjivez - have you checked the teamspeak forum ?02:07
lysisi have to login, but i'm logging into an x server screen.02:08
mintis ther a default pass02:08
mintor something02:08
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Azunainavarone: sorry :)02:08
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Steilmint: to use su you need to set a root password which isn't recommended, just type sudo -s02:08
nandrook, then whats the best way to install FF 1.5?02:08
Steiland then it's your regular password02:08
mintk02:08
patrick_I wish the redownload of w32codecs file wouldn't take this long.  an annoying 15.3 KB/Sec speed.  Probably because of that retard friend of mine who has overbloated Windows XP and his file share P2P crap always running.02:08
navaroneAzunai...no that's okay...I'll live vicariously thru you...<sigh>02:08
Azunailysis: yeah but cant i just ctrl +alt + bkspc instead of reboot :)02:08
tonyyarusso!firefox1.502:08
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion02:08
mintit switched to root with sudo -s02:08
tonyyarussonandro, ^^02:08
lysisAzunai, no.02:08
mintk02:08
isadorit says im running a Xserver or sumthing like that02:08
lysisAzunai, you must reboot so it will load the modules.02:08
nandroty02:08
isadorand the driver wont install02:08
Azunainavarone: if u need a site building u know were to come heh02:09
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isadorhow do i switch to non-graphical mode?02:09
lysisisador, you must ctrl + alt + backspace to stop running the xserver02:09
Steilhappyponcho42: It's probably a problem with your keyboard....02:09
mintSo there is no "Easy Way" speaking with synaptics to install firefox, but other protrams there are??02:09
isadork02:09
lysisthen do it from command line02:09
lysisreboot02:09
lysisthen all will be good02:09
Azunailysis: il be back asap i need to reboot :)02:09
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lysisAzunai, i may be away but i'll look for flashing02:09
Azunaistay online please :)02:09
jerham2651ff installed fine for me02:09
Azunaibrb02:09
happyponcho42Steil, it doesn't occur in Windows, but in Linux, it's an often occurence02:10
tonyyarussomint, ff1.07 is fine with synaptic, 1.5 isn't.02:10
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minthmm02:10
Steilhappyponcho42: No idea then, sorry02:10
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navaroneisador...if you want no gui at all there is a command to kill the gdm and then you can ctrl-alt-f2 to a text terminla and work thru there02:10
puff-NNYAnybody here that would be kind enough to take some time and help me with a raid setup?02:10
patrick_Would be nice if the Ubuntu repository had the FireFox 1.5 in there.  I had to update from 1.07 to 1.5 the hard way.02:10
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happyponcho42Steil, no problem, it's not that big of an issue, but rather one that annoys me every so often.02:10
mintcan i run all of this for FF1.5 as...  root@MINTx:~#02:10
Aaron_Masonok, I can't get the package - I run apt-get but I get this error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)02:10
tonyyarussopatrick_, Dapper will have it.02:11
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chemical_dscan anbody tell me how to configure my firewall so that i can ping hosts on my lan by their name?02:11
chemical_dsi've tried editing /etc/hosts on the firewall, but that didn't seem to work. btw i'm using dnsmasq.02:11
oceandeadaskjivez, after youve checked the ts forums (theres lots of posts there about getting it to work) - you may also try googling for teamspeak happy esd alsa  and use the google cache to the howto from the ubuntuforums02:11
ali_chemical_ds: you only need to put them in your hosts file02:11
ali_chemical_ds: at /etc/hosts02:11
chemical_dsali_: hmm ok i'll give it another try02:12
Aaron_Masoni got the same error when I load the Package Manager these days02:12
patrick_while i'm waiting for a download, anyone know how I can limit the refreshrate? My monitor can go up higher then was recommended, I want to cap it if it's possible.02:12
j2daoshhows it going everyone... got a question about sql... postgre sql to be specific... if i input a mp3 table in my database... can i play the mp3's from the database or will it just give me information about the mp3 and give me beter search options?02:12
glaciousso does HL2 / Day of Defeat Source run well in Ubuntu /w an ATI card?02:12
ali_chemical_ds: it's simple you just put in the address and the name like this "192.168.0.1 ali" then if i type, "ping ali" it'll ping the 192.... address02:13
glaciousi think it may be my last step to a full move to linux... again.02:13
Aaron_Masonah, gotta download the lists.  belh02:13
Aaron_Mason*blegh02:13
BrickMakerhow can i give better look to my desktop02:13
Aaron_Masondamn typos!02:13
ali_BrickMaker: are you running gnome? what do you mean by better, less brown?02:13
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patrick_lmao02:13
pipposalut02:14
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BrickMakerali_, i'm running gnome just wan't to make it colorful and beautiful you know what i mean02:14
j2daoshBrickMaker, sudo apt-get install gnomeart02:14
ali_hey02:14
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Aaron_Masonok, getting there02:14
pippoil ya qq1 qui parle franais?02:14
oceandeadBrickMaker - you want to change the wallpaper, icons, look of the windows - what ?02:14
drummer87BrickMaker, gnome-look.org for lots of themes02:14
ali_pippo: ubuntu-fr02:14
BrickMakerOkay let me try themes02:14
pippothhs02:14
chemical_dsali_: it seems to be working now :) cheers.02:14
Aaron_Masonubuntu is teh r0x!02:14
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MickMcMackStones are the rox!02:15
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Aaron_Masonheck, I'd even drop xp and load this up02:15
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ali_BrickMaker: yeah change the theme over to clearlooks, then I'd suggest installing the tango icons http://tango-project.org/Tango_Desktop_Project :) should look better all ready02:15
oceandeadlol the r0x02:15
oceandeadteh*02:15
ali_chemical_ds: np :)02:15
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Aaron_Masonw00t, it works now02:16
Aaron_Masonkudos all02:16
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BrickMakerlet me check02:16
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adam__hello02:16
insomniac_can someone help me with the permissions setting on my hard drive?02:16
ali_insomniac_: yes02:16
insomniac_i have a second hard drive that I want to change the permissions to allow me to write files, but when i try "chmod" it tells me that the drive is a "read-only" file system02:17
adam__R the ubuntu forums down?02:17
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ali_insomniac_: ok thats not the permissions, but how its mounted.02:17
insomniac_okay02:17
BrickMakerali_, show me your desktop screen shot02:17
oceandeadhttp://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions02:18
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: if it's a ntfs drive you may destroy data by writing to it02:18
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ali_BrickMaker: ok hold on, i'm on my gf's mac atm02:18
mcdenyer!srs02:18
ubotumcdenyer: My cat's name is Mittens!02:18
BrickMakerOK02:18
elihello everyone, is ubuntuforums down?02:18
mcdenyer!audio02:18
ubotumcdenyer: I don't know, could you explain it?02:18
insomniac_johndarkhorse, it's fat3202:18
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ssstormy17102:18
BrickMakerdamn, i heav'nt seen yet mac in real life02:18
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ssstormyhey, how do I run a .jar fie?02:18
ali_BrickMaker: they're not all there cracked up to be :)02:19
mc|ambim having problems setting the screen resolution on my laptop, could someon help me?02:19
Khisanthjava -jar foo.jar if you are doing it from the command line02:19
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oceandeadi have - eh no biggie02:19
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: then you should fix your permissions in your /etc/fstab (indiscrimanate use of 'chmod' will surely botch your system)02:19
BrickMakerlol02:19
mintanyone know why things dont minimize to taskbar?02:19
ali_BrickMaker: i'll just go down stairs, i'll be called johnnybezak when i login from down there02:19
mintor how to fix that02:19
elifstab?02:19
insomniac_johndarkhorse, what changes do i need to make?02:19
eliwhere can i find the newest fstab?02:19
BrickMakerok02:20
puff-NNYcould somebody please help me with how to setup raid?02:20
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johndarkhorse!pastebin02:20
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org02:20
oceandeadfstab is a file - basically tells ubuntu what to mount at boot - and how it will be mounted02:20
BrickMakerali_,  you a muslim and from australia?02:20
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: pastebin your /etc/fstab please02:20
n00blol brickmaker wtf?02:20
insomniac_johndarkhorse, not sure what that means, but the line w/ this drive is this02:20
insomniac_"/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage    vfat    defaults,uid=rradjabi,gid=users 0 0"02:20
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BrickMakern00b, lol02:21
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drummer87ssstormy, "java -jar file.jar" i think02:21
puff-NNYcan you guys even hear me? nobody has responded to anything i say02:21
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n00bdid you go down to nulla?02:21
ppjd0tz9friggin forums02:21
elisorry, i meant does anyone know where i can find winmac_fstab for breezy?02:21
mcdenyerhey can someone help me set up suround sound?02:21
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glaciousso cedega, worth paying for if i can get the time demo to work properly?02:21
n00bNO DONT PAY FOR IT02:21
mc|ambi cant set screen resolution with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? do anyone knows why?02:21
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oceandeadvfat umask=000 0 0     lets all users read/write?02:21
n00bglacious you can download it from amule02:21
glaciousn00b: cedega?02:22
imexiusis ubuntuforums up yet?02:22
n00bglacious, yes02:22
oceandeadnope imexius :(02:22
cactiiI can't write to my Creative Labs Muvo MP3 player...02:22
imexiusah02:22
n00bglacious, thats how i downloaded mine02:22
glaciousn00b: i have the time demo running.  but it makes you reinstall all the games.  i have a copy of my Valve dir /w HL2 and Dod:S.02:22
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tonyyarusson00b, Are we advocating piracy now, or is this the cvs version?02:22
glaciousn00b: but don't you have to pay for a subscription?02:22
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imexiusim making a new version of cedega called Shaddeggha02:22
Bizzehdoes ubuntu, or linux its self support MTP (PlayForSure Media Transfer Protocol)02:22
n00bglacious, not if you don't want to02:22
glaciouswhat is a good CD / DVD burning program?02:23
elianyone know how long ubuntuforums will be down?02:23
n00btonyyarusso, no this isn't pircay02:23
mcdenyertonyyarusso, ok hey how do  i install the gstreamer plugin for firefox?02:23
imexiusubuntuforums is permanently down02:23
oceandeadgnomebaker (gnome) or k3b (kde)02:23
eliwhat???02:23
nofearglacious, kb302:23
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glaciousoceandead: thank you02:23
glaciousnofear: kb3 work well in gnome?02:23
elino, are you serious that ubuntuforums is permanently down?02:23
kasemodzdoes anyone know why ubuntu forums has been going down lately02:23
oceandeadkb3 for kde02:23
kasemodzit has gone down pretty much everyday02:24
elilack of funding i would assume?02:24
oceandeadthough - if you take care of dependencies - it will work02:24
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tonyyarussomcdenyer, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8* mozilla-mplayer02:24
n00bguys is windows > ubuntu?02:24
nekostaro.o02:24
glaciousoceandead: i run gnome here, i'll give gnomebaker a try.02:24
Remillardis there a known problem with getting networking up and running?02:24
glaciousmost people run KDE over gnome here?02:24
ppjd0tz9yeah thats why we're sitting in #ubuntu02:24
nekostarglacious,02:24
nekostardont do that02:24
elignome02:24
glaciousnekostar: ?02:24
oceandeadi use gnome/gnomebaker02:24
n00bi run gnome02:24
happyponcho42gnome here02:24
n00bgnome > kDE02:24
elienlightenment actually02:24
nekostaryour just inviting errors on burns02:24
kasemodzhas anyone done that HOWTO: Server Side VNC Client in ubuntu forums02:25
n00bKDE reminds me of windows... its sooo bulky02:25
nekostaruse something that has error checking02:25
nekostari usually install k3b02:25
glaciousnekostar: ok.  well i have a few large files i neede burned onto a DVD.  what should i use?02:25
ppjd0tz9fluxbox baby02:25
kasemodzthe one where the guy downloads a vncviewer and modidys it02:25
nekostarand yes i run gnome too02:25
glaciousn00b: that was my impression as well.  pretty tho =)  but apparently gnome has some pimp themes.02:25
mint/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:25
happyponcho42Nekos, are you referring to Gnomebaker to burn cd's?02:25
nekostaryeah02:25
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mintis that from the updrade ?02:25
happyponcho42I've also had bad luck with cd's burned through there02:25
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nekostarim saying dont use it02:25
glaciousnekostar: so gnomebaker is not a good CD program?02:25
happyponcho42Nekos, what othe rprogram do you recommend?02:26
nekostarwithout error checking no program is good02:26
nekostark3b works awesome02:26
happyponcho42glacious, i've also experienced many dead cd's from gnomebaker02:26
^Ocean^Okay, With Disk Manager How come udner speed: it says "Not Avalilable" for my hard drives ?02:26
glaciousnekostar: so can k3b work in gnome?02:26
mcdenyertonyyarusso, ok once i install it how do i get firefox to use it?02:26
nekostaryup02:26
nekostarworks great :)02:26
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glacioushappyponcho42: ok.  i'll avoid it :)02:26
mc|ambyes02:26
nekostarsudo apt-get install k3b02:26
glaciousnekostar: sounds like a plan, ty.02:26
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nekostarnp02:26
mcdenyertonyyarusso, after i did that it still tries to play it with totem02:26
nekostarive got a few TB of stuff02:26
happyponcho42excellent, k3b is in the repos.02:26
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Either it will automatically, or you'll have to make the symlinks as before.02:26
nekostarburned and well02:26
Remillardanyhow, I'll just throw this out there.  Installed ubuntu from the install cd... seems to identify the network card, and I can set up my static route information, however it doesn't connect.  DHCP also does not work.  Exact information works on my gentoo partition, so fairly certain it's not hardware... is there some way of diagnosing this?02:26
nekostarerrors piss me off02:26
n00bglacious: yes gnome is sweet... check out art.gnome.org you can get lots of cool stuff from there02:26
happyponcho42sudo apt-get install k3b02:26
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Ah, that part.02:26
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Remove the totem symlinks too.02:27
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nekostarn00b, there is a package for that actually02:27
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nekostarsudo apt-get install gnome-art02:27
nekostari recommend:02:27
tonyyarussomcdenyer, In /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/, rm the two with 'totem' in their name.02:27
mcdenyer!multimedia02:27
ubotuwell, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications02:27
glaciousn00b: w00t! thank you sir.02:27
johnnybezakwho was it that wanted a screenshot of my desktop ( i was ali_)02:27
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nekostarsudo apt-get install gnome-art k3b totem-xine xine-ui02:27
nekostar:)02:27
mcdenyertonyyarusso, ok one sec02:27
JDigitalKDE is very Windows-like. Gnome reminds me a little of Mac or Amiga but they just keep ripping things from Windows so it loses something02:27
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mintFF wont even open now02:27
JDigitaland it only rips half the things from Windows so it feels lacking02:27
mintand i followed this tutorial exactyl02:28
JDigitalwhich tutorial02:28
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glaciousand use openoffice for a MS Office compatible office suite?02:28
_jason /last mint 1002:28
johnnybezakgnome doesn't look like windows at all02:28
beelzebub1987nah02:28
beelzebub1987but check this out02:28
imexiusif gnome looked like windows i would quit using gnome02:28
beelzebub1987I made gnome look like Os X02:28
n00bnekostar, does that install everything?02:28
JDigitalSome Gnome features work the same as in Windows02:28
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beelzebub1987http://beelzebub1987.servehttp.com/Screenshot.png02:28
beelzebub1987that's my Ubuntu desktop02:29
nekostarn00b, yeah02:29
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glaciouswow, to install k3b, it has like 15 dependencies.  basically like installing KDE =(02:29
n00bnekostar, kewl02:29
minthow can i restore my firefox?02:29
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: "/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage    vfat    ro,umask=000   0 0"02:29
nekostarthat installs the packages named and the dependancies02:29
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johnnybezakglacious: yeah sucks hey02:29
mintnow that it wont even open02:29
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: i'm sorry, im in an office atm02:29
insomniac_that's cool02:29
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: it should be rw,umask=00002:29
glaciousjohnnybezak: oh well.  just a one time deal i guess to get all KDE apps working in gnome.02:29
BrickMakernow let me know how to use that theme02:29
beelzebub1987http://beelzebub1987.servehttp.com/Screenshot.png like my ubuntu desktop setup?02:29
_jasonmint: did you follow the wiki?02:29
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nekostarmint, for the record mozilla is faster02:29
JDigitalClock in the corner, systray by the clock, taskbar at the bottom, windows are similar02:29
mcdenyertonyyarusso, ok so i just delete the files02:29
minti did follow the wiki02:29
mintand now it wont open02:29
oceandeadwhat bt client does everyone use?02:29
johndarkhorseinsomniac_: i'm goin freakin crazy tryin to answer the phones (and answer easy questions in here at the same time)02:30
JDigitaluTorrent02:30
JDigitaluTorrent isn't Linux though02:30
nekostarglacious, yeah its got dependancies02:30
mint/opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory02:30
nekostarbut its not the same02:30
_jasonmint: so that means you installed the package libstdc++5 ?02:30
JDigitalso I use the default client02:30
nekostartry sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop02:30
johnnybezakglacious: yep thats the deal02:30
nekostarsee the couple hundred packages heh02:30
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mint_jason: i think02:30
insomniac_johndarkhorse, i think i figured it out, thanks for the help02:30
minttotally new here02:30
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Yeah.02:30
Bizzehdoes anyone know of a fix to get the ralink rt2500 drivers to work with a smp kernel?02:30
Remillardhm, no ideas on network... ahh well02:30
glaciousif i remove the Dapper Drake CD rom from the sources.list, will it stop asking me to insert it?02:30
mintbut now i cant even open a browser to try and figure out how to fix02:30
eliati?02:31
glaciousand just download everything?02:31
mintcould kinda use some help02:31
johndarkhorseBizzeh: you can compile those drivers for any kernel02:31
nekostaryes thats right glacious02:31
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patrick_where do i direct Mplayer to a font, it keeps saying no font selected, I don't know where the directy for fonts are02:31
nekostarsudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list02:31
nekostar!sources02:31
ubotuTo enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource02:31
nekostarput those in :)02:31
tandycan someone direct me to instruction for compiling a custom kernel on ubuntu02:31
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mcdenyertonyyarusso, which files do i remove exactly the .las or the .so or what?02:31
_jasonmint: you need to install libstdc++502:31
minthmm02:31
glaciousany good DVD authoring programs for gnome?  Like take multiple DivX and make it into a multi-show DVD for DVD players?02:32
mintno idea how02:32
mintis it hard02:32
n00bZOMG CHECK OUT THE BACKGROUNDS AT ART.GNOME.ORG02:32
mintis that something thats in synaptics02:32
tonyyarussomcdenyer, The two with totem in their name, whatever those are.02:32
^Ocean^is there a program to test how many MB/S my HD is read/writeing at ?02:32
mintthat i can just install02:32
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mcdenyertonyyarusso, theres 402:32
Bizzehjohndarkhorse: aparently not, you need /lib/modules/kernelname/build dir to build them, which i dont have. and if a module is compiled for a amd64 kernel, then i get the same kernel, but smp, wouldnt the module still work?02:32
johndarkhorseglacious: try 'dvdauthor02:32
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Okay, then all four.02:32
bimberiubotu tell tandy about kernelcompile02:32
_jasonmint: the wiki tells you exactly what to do in the notes, it is even in bold02:32
johnnybezakmint: yeah exactly :) or from a terminal sudo apt-get install packagenamehere02:32
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johndarkhorseBizzeh: grab linux-source and kernel-headers using apt or synaptic02:33
mcdenyertonyyarusso, whats the command to delete?02:33
johndarkhorseubotu: tell Bizzeh about wireless02:33
tonyyarussomcdenyer, rm02:33
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tandythanks bimberi02:33
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tandydont knwo why icoudlnt find that02:33
mcdenyertonyyarusso, sudo rm02:33
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bimberitandy: yw :)02:34
glaciousk3b wants to run as root, using 'su'.  how should i get around this?02:34
johndarkhorseBizzeh: those URLs i had sent should walk you through the process02:34
imexiusgnomebaker vs k3b whats the best?02:34
imexiusglacious sudo -s02:34
tonyyarussomcdenyer, correct.02:34
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johndarkhorseglacious: something is wrong if k3b wants to run as root02:34
dabaRHi.02:34
gepenkhelp02:34
gepenkany body wants 2 help me02:34
lamp_what do you need help with?02:34
tonyyarussogepenk, Ask your question.02:34
johnnybezakgepenk: we'll all help you just say what you need help with02:35
johndarkhorseimexius: please don't advise without thinking. k3b should NOT want to run as root, and that is a sign of something wrong with the system02:35
gepenki want 2 launch gnome02:35
gepenkbut how02:35
gepenk?02:35
puff-NNYstartx?02:35
mcdenyertonyyarusso, ok now what?02:35
patrick_What folder are fonts located in?02:35
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Now try it.02:35
meemooroot logon02:35
gepenk?02:35
_jasonubotu: tell meemoo about root02:35
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Bizzehjohndarkhorse: i know how to get wireless working in ubuntu, the module refuses to load under the smp kernel02:35
patrick_What folder are fonts located in??02:36
mcdenyer!multimedia02:36
ubotumultimedia is, like, totally, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications02:36
Bizzehand it wont let me build a new one against the new kernel02:36
brennergepenk: need more info ... is gdm not starting? are you currently running kde and would like to install gnome? etc.02:36
johndarkhorseBizzeh: if you follow the instructions, they'll tell you how to compile a module for your current kernel02:36
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gepenklook02:36
puff-NNYcan anybody hear me in there?02:36
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gepenki just installed ubuntu in my pc02:36
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dabaRpuff-NNY: no,02:36
_jasonpuff-NNY: is anybody out there?02:36
gepenkand now want to install another program02:36
gepenkbut i cant do nothing02:37
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glacioushrmm, anyone use Cedega with the fglrx driver?  it fails both video tests for me.02:37
patrick_I already have the font installed but where is it installed to?02:37
dabaRgepenk: go read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html as a prerequisite.02:37
GameOver69owner: man my 3d works horribly......02:37
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mcdenyertonyyarusso, man the video and sound quality is great works perfectly thanks alot man02:37
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brennergepenk: so you /can/ lauch gnome? i'm confused :-/02:37
GameOver69i tried darwinia: man i thought my computer froze it was running so slow02:37
tonyyarussomcdenyer, np02:37
puff-NNYcould somebody please help me with a raid setup?02:37
dabaRpatrick_: did you read the wiki page ubotu told you about?02:37
gepenkthanx02:37
Bizzehjohndarkhorse: the links have nothing to do with building the driver at all02:38
Bizzehread through the main one, and the rt2500 link coming off it02:38
johndarkhorseBizzeh: i'll find the URL for the howto02:38
patrick_yeah but that says for installing fonts, I don't want new ones I want to set mplayer to use the same font x-chat uses, the monospace 9 one02:38
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ownergameover sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg02:38
ownerselect fglrx02:38
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oceandeadah crap - out of coffee gotta go to the store02:39
imexiusbuy me some02:39
johndarkhorseBizzeh: you didn't see the rt2500 howto on that page?02:39
Bizzehyes02:40
dabaRpatrick_: do you have ~/.fonts?02:40
Bizzehit has nothing to do with building it in that page02:40
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funkyMiNTanyone have a good resource page for learning how the directory structure works with Ubuntu02:40
funkyMiNTcommands etc02:40
bimberi!cli02:40
ubotuCLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org02:40
Bizzehit only has to do with making it work when its loaded, which i am perfectly capable of doing, my problem is i cant get it to build for a smp kernel02:40
funkyMiNTthank you02:40
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Toma-if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :(02:41
bimberifunkyMiNT: np, although it covers commands, i'm not sure where the directory structure is covered02:41
Toma-last time i set it up, i had to have a static IP with the wifi card02:41
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puff-NNYcould somebody please help me with a raid setup in ubuntu?02:41
Toma-ubotu, tell puff-NNY about raid02:41
funkyMiNTim using synaptics to install the libstdc++502:42
funkyMiNTHOORAY02:42
johndarkhorseBizzeh: i'm sorry i wish robotgeek were here, because there IS a page on the wiki on how to do this02:42
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Azunaihey again ppls02:42
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Azunaiwho was i talking to before about ATI drivers?02:42
meemooi just installed ubuntu and when i logon on i have updates but when i enter my password to get them or any time i have to enter my password it doesnt work the passord box goes but then most apps dont work any ideas02:42
funkyMiNTis adept like synaptics?02:42
Toma-Bizzeh, what are u trying to do?02:42
tonyyarussoAzunai, Might have been me?02:42
funkyMiNTjust a program that lists what u have isntalled and whatever else is avail to download and it does everythign for you02:43
BizzehToma-: get my wireless card (rt2500 chipset) to work under a smp-k8 kernel02:43
bimberifunkyMiNT: yes, same purpose - package management02:43
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AzunaiTony: Dont think so but hey if you can help :P02:43
robotgeekjohndarkhorse: you beckoned?02:43
Bizzehjohndarkhorse: your rgiht02:43
Toma-Bizzeh, why isnt it working?02:43
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BizzehToma-: /lib/modules/linuxwhatever/build is missing02:43
brennerbimberi, funkyMiNT: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html02:43
Toma-Bizzeh, have you installed the headers?02:44
bimberionya brenner! :)02:44
AzunaiTony / Dr Willis: ive just reformated and installed ubuntu "AGAIN" ok so it says theres updates to be done should i do them before doing those ati driver thing u gave me?02:44
Bizzehi had the headers installed when i was trying earlier02:44
tonyyarussoAzunai, Let me know what your issue is and we'll see.02:44
oceandeadhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500?action=show&redirect=Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo02:44
oceandead?02:44
frazmanwhow do I change my splash screen?02:44
ssstormyI'm using jPodder, and it starts with a sh script.  However, though I can run the program just by clicking on the startup script, the menu entry in Applications that I made dosn't start it.02:44
funkyMiNTYES YES I installed FF 1.502:44
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ssstormyare there special considerations for sh scripts in the menu?02:44
funkyMiNT_Jason02:44
brennerbimberi: i'm beginning to realise i seem to mostly just google for people in here. :)02:44
funkyMiNTthank you that worked with that libstdc++502:44
Azunaitony: i have an ATI X850XT PE and i need to be 3d acceleration enabled so i can use cedega :)02:44
Toma-Bizzeh, find the exact file thats missing, then run "apt-file search /lib/modules/pattycake/build"02:44
tonyyarussoAzunai, I don't think it necessarily matters, but I always update before doing stuff.02:44
Toma-Bizzeh, obviously you need apt-file first02:45
_jasonfunkyMiNT: yes?02:45
Azunaidownloading updates now :)02:45
BizzehToma-: the whole directory isnt there02:45
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Toma-Bizzeh, it'll pick up on directorys too02:45
BizzehAzunai: i managed to get ati binary drivers working fully earlier02:45
Bizzehill find what i did02:45
mcdenyertonyyarusso, hmm that works good except for the video size is like half the size it should be02:46
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bimberibrenner: hehe, i know the feeling (but was lazy this time) - thanks02:46
Azunaibizzeh: what exactly did you do and how the hell did you get it to work what ati card do you have?02:46
mcdenyertonyyarusso, is there a nother plugin i can try?02:46
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tonyyarussomcdenyer, How are you judging what "it should be"?02:46
arm0sfighterwhy cant i dirrect connect on gaim to aim?02:46
n00bhey guys, i have a problem with flash02:46
rixthWhat is the 'best' laptop to have for Ubuntu?02:46
Azunaiholy hell i love linux man in windows i get 900kbs download rate in linux im getting 1758kb/s :D02:46
n00bim not getting any sound02:46
BizzehAzunai: just pm'ed you02:46
mcdenyertonyyarusso, mmm how i see it when using windows02:46
rixth!flash02:46
ubotuI guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats02:46
Bizzehand i have a pci-e x70002:46
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borisattvaughh.. what is UP with the forum.. down constantly02:46
owneri have the same card bizzeh02:47
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ssstormyAzunai, I hate you :) I get 30Kb/s02:47
n00b!FreeFormats02:47
ubotuI guess freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats02:47
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arm0sfighterwhy am i not able to dirrect connect or send files on gaim?02:47
arm0sfighterwhen it has the option too02:47
mintDoes anyone know what would cause things not to show up in the Taskbar at the bottom when they are minimized???02:47
meemooubuntu failed to run as user root: wrong password i get this every time i enter my password but it works fine in terminal if i enter my user password the password box goes but no app work02:47
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Not really sure.  I don't have anything else to recommend since that works for me.02:47
Bizzehhttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 go down to the Using the drivers from ati.com bit, you have to follow it to the letter, AND do what it says on screen02:47
mcdenyertonyyarusso, hmm u set me up with one where it had like a black loading screen02:48
johndarkhorseBizzeh: i apologize. someone may have moved the document or merged it with another one, the rt2500 forums that are linked from the page DO have instructions02:48
mcdenyertonyyarusso, you helped me set it up on aim02:48
mintwhy are things not minimizing to the taskbar????02:48
mintthis is really annoying02:48
brennerrixth: i've heard IBMs are good.  check here for experiences of other users: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops02:48
Bizzehjohndarkhorse: yeah, i searched around a bit and found what to do, the problem is, im gonna have to save a load of stuff to my usb drive so i can read it without my network up02:48
mintim IBM02:48
mintlol02:48
tonyyarussomcdenyer, Oy, I don't really remember.02:49
Azunaissstormy: lol 10MB Cable internet :P02:49
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bimberifrazmanw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto02:49
puff-NNYcould somebody please take like 10 minutes of thier time and assist me with setting up raid in the ubuntu install? If i cant get raid working in ubuntu then i'll be forced to install fedora or even windows on this box =/02:49
dabaRmint: where are they minimizing to?02:49
TokenBadis there a way to update xchat in ubuntu?02:49
mcdenyertonyyarusso, hmm ok02:49
Bizzehjohndarkhorse: i got a amd64 x2 4200 a month ago, and i plan on using it properly02:49
rixthbrenner, thanks02:49
mintno idea02:49
tonyyarussorixth, I have an IBM/Lenovo.  Also see the ThinkWiki for those.02:49
minti just dont see them on the bottom02:49
johndarkhorseTokenBad: only if you build it yourself02:49
TokenBadjohndarkhorse, ok..02:49
mintonly way to switch around is alt-tab02:49
skonunless you change the bindings....02:49
bimberimint: does your panel have a "Window List" applet?02:50
Azunaibizzeh :P im totaly new to linux if theres something i dont understand can i ask ya :)02:50
rixthWhat about the x86 Apple laptops? Anything out on them yet?02:50
mintno idea02:50
minthow can i check02:50
meemoowell thanxs for ur help people02:50
BizzehAzunai: this is my first trip into linux for about... 3 years02:50
johndarkhorserixth: what about apple?02:50
borisattvais there a way to forcebly unmount a SMB that has gone loco without a restart?02:50
BrickMakerhow can i use theme02:50
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Azunaiok :(02:50
rixthjoh, wondering if they are any good for Ubuntu02:50
Bizzehwas a gentoo person back when i used to play, but i cant be bothered with all that compiling, even on this cpu02:50
BrickMakeri have downloaded files02:50
bimberimint: you could try adding one, right-click on a panel and select Add to Panel...02:50
Toma-if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :( My settings used to be static on the wifi card, but ive forgotten how to set it up02:50
AzunaiMake sure the universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled (See the AddingRepositoriesHowto) WTF does that mean :)02:50
ssstormyAzunai, I want... bad...02:51
rixth!repository02:51
uboturixth: I give up, what is it?02:51
Bizzehcd /usr/src/linux && make -j502:51
Bizzeh:D02:51
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Bizzehdoesnt take long to build a full kernel on this02:51
_jasonAzunai: isn't that a link?  what page are you on?02:51
rixth!tell patrick_ about away02:51
johndarkhorserixth: i'm sure they work fine. even the airport extreme will work in dapper02:51
rixthSweeeet!02:51
BrickMakerhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d check out this theme if any body experience how to use it so let me know02:51
Azunaitormy : lol02:51
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Remillardif ifconfig shows the right information, is there some reason why it wouldn't go through the router?  Is there some layer between ifconfig and the hardware?02:51
Azunaijason yeh but linux language confuses me lol02:52
n00bim still having problems with sound from flash...02:52
crouchingMonkeyquick question here, is it possible to mount an NTFS partition in linux ?02:52
n00bits not when i view a site... its after i download the flash02:52
eugmanWhat's the best way to reinstall grub that doesn't involve an buntu installation disk02:52
Bizzehsomething thats always confused me02:52
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minthow can i restore the default panel at hte bottom02:52
eugmanyes croaching monkey02:52
Azunaihey bizzeh which driver did you get from ATI site the big 32 mb one?02:53
mcdenyertonyyarusso, whats the difference between gstreamer-0.8* mozilla-mplayer and just mozilla-mplayer?02:53
BizzehAzunai: yes02:53
cyphaseis D-BUS event-driven?02:53
johndarkhorseubotu: tell crouchingMonkey about ntfs02:53
AzunaiBizzeh: cheers man :)02:53
cyphasei'm prett sure it is..02:53
cyphasepretty*02:53
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cyphasebut not ocmpletely02:53
BrickMakerhttp://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d how can i install this theme02:53
cyphasecompletely02:53
cyphaseargh02:53
brennermint: you removed it?02:53
Bizzehhow do you say "gnome" as in the desktop.. gee-nome like the human gee-nome, or gnome, like those porcalin dudes with funny hats around my garden pond?02:53
mintno02:53
mintits there02:53
eugmanmcdenyer Gstreamer-o.8* would get all the plugins methinks02:53
mintbut nothing will minimize to it02:53
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mintit will give me the windows list02:54
AzunaiLOL 32 mb downloaded in about 5 secconds :P i love linux 2086kbs man linux networks are so much better than windows :P02:54
mintbut before it has the windows in it02:54
mintlike seperated.. just like windows02:54
mintnow i just have 1 icon02:54
dabaRare they all one same program, like nautilus, or different programs, mint?02:54
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brennerBrickMaker: sys > prefs > theme > install theme02:54
ssstormyAzunai, ..... >-(02:55
Toma-BrickMaker, what part are you trying to install?02:55
BizzehAzunai: i can download faster under windows than linux02:55
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brennermint: try adding the window list applet to it02:55
bimberimint: that might be the "Window Selector" applet, does a menu pop up when you click it02:55
BrickMakerbrenner, i'm talking about this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d it has individual files to download and i have downloaded all02:55
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mintright now when i click it02:55
mintit shows me a menu02:56
Azunaii cant i get around a max of 1100kbs in windows but in linux im getting 2.2mbs its way faster02:56
mintjust like a dropdown02:56
mintwith everything thats open02:56
Toma-BrickMaker, open 1 or 2 up and see if theres a README of INSTALL file02:56
ssstormyDANG!!! ubuntu has some nice themes02:56
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dabaRmint: resize it.02:56
Azunaimaybe its cus im on a cable internet and not adsl02:56
minti just want all that stuff to be across the bar02:56
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mintall02:56
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eugmanOh the troubles you face Azunai. The horror!02:56
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mintunreal02:56
mintlololol02:56
jsimonhello02:56
bimberimint: yes, you need the "Window List" applet (as per breener)02:56
bimberi*brenner02:56
AzunaiLOL eugman dude im having mega problems this ati driver install is unbelievably hard02:56
kinagiDoes anyone know where I can find a list of games that work on linux?02:56
borisattvais there a way to forcebly unmount a SMB without a full restart when its stuck in thinking that its busy?02:56
eugmantouch'e02:57
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brennermint: BrickMaker not sure of the menu addon, but the icon and clearlooks theme can be done by the method i said02:57
ssstormykinagi, wine has a list of ones that work with it02:57
brennerwhoops02:57
mintI LOVE U GUYS02:57
ssstormytry searching google. I remember there was such a list somewhere02:57
brennermint: not meant for you :P02:57
mintim actually making progress tonight02:57
kinagiIs there anything not involving Wine?02:57
cyphaseBrikcMaker, install gnome-art, then go to System -> Preferences -> Art Manager02:57
minti got the menu02:57
_adamman i can't get vpnc to work02:57
cyphaseBrickMaker*02:57
_adamjust hangs02:57
brennerBrickMaker: the other ones (ff, thunderbird) will prob. have to be done through the apps themselves02:57
mintwho was just asking about assing a theme?02:57
mintcause thats my next step02:57
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cyphasebrenner, no, the icon theme provides them02:58
mintadding a theme02:58
cyphasei just tried it right now02:58
jsimoni have a prob I am on my inspiron 9300 and i have and USB key board but it is not workin it is and nexxtech whit usb ub and my mouse is connected to it and working02:58
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BrickMakeri don't have thunderbird02:58
brennercyphase: provides what?02:58
BrickMakeri have ff02:58
mintwhat file should i point it to when it asks to install the thme?02:58
dabaRmint: what did you do to fix that window list?02:58
mintresize02:58
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minti added the windows list02:58
dabaRI win.02:59
mintit was so small it was forcing it to be just a menu02:59
mintwhen i resized it02:59
mintall the stuff showed ont he taskbar02:59
_adamso ive got vpnc.conf and tun module loaded02:59
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anto9usjsimon, maybe you need usb legacy support enabled in the bios02:59
_adamand im missing anything else for vpnc to work?02:59
_adamim using 6.04 x8602:59
lambhow do I restart the x server???02:59
dabaRbimberi: Ubuntu!02:59
cyphasebrenner, the ff and tb icons02:59
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bimberilamb: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart03:00
mcdenyereugman, u wouldnt happen to know of any other inter streaming plugins would ya?03:00
lambbimberi thanks03:00
bimberilamb: yw :)03:00
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minti keep getting this "fiole format is invalid" when trying to install a theme03:00
dabaRlamb: alt-ctrl-bksp works too.03:00
mintwhat files should i use?03:00
eugmanmcdenyer you do know what the * in gstreamer-0.8* means don't you?03:00
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brennercyphase: oh, i wasn't talking about icons, i was talking about the ff and thunderbird skins.03:01
dabaR!themes03:01
Remillardokay, well no one has any ideas about my networking issue... is there somewhere other than ubuntuforums to ask questions (since the site seems to be toasted)03:01
cyphasebrenner, oh03:01
paranoid_wom 1503:01
anto9usRemillard, what's your networking issue?03:02
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dabaRfor breakfast that is...03:02
eliany good tips for installing an ati driver?03:02
dabaR;)03:02
Remillardanto9us: installed fresh off of 5.10 cd, says it detects the network card.. have looked through dmesg and it does seem to find it... ifconfig reports correctly (matches the report on the gentoo partition)... however cannot ping the router, or anything past it03:03
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Remillardnot sure what else to check at this point...03:03
whyameyeif I want to make a WinXP machine dual boot, is there an option already in the Breezy install to handle this?03:03
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Azunaihey bizzeh i got a problem03:03
Azunaiim doing what it says on the site03:03
anto9usRemillard, can you ping localhost ok?03:04
dabaRRemillard: what is the IP address? is it a proper one for your network?03:04
eugmanwhyameye yes03:04
minthow would I unstall this03:04
Bizzehyou need to open up universe and restricted03:04
minthttp://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/epian-white/?branch_id=62201&release_id=21701003:04
Bizzehand you need to do an apt-update03:04
Azunaibut the ati installer window is too big for me to click anything now i selected unbuntu/breezy03:04
eugmanwhen you install ubuntu it'll give you the option of installing grub boot loader03:04
Azunaiwhat do i do?03:04
Remillardanto9us: I'll try that, but it'll require reboot. (writing these things down ;-))03:04
BizzehAzunai: run it in a console03:04
oneseventeenwhyameye yes there is, but I haven't had the resize existing partition work yet myself :(03:04
Bizzehit will do a command version03:04
brennerAzunai: hold alt03:04
RemillarddabaR: yes, IP address is the same as used by the other partition, it's a static IP route... also dhcp does not work so I think it's just not getting anything through the card03:04
Azunaiil do the ALT one :P03:04
Azunaithanks man :)03:04
oneseventeenhow would one go about configuring wireless networking on an old iBook with Ubuntu 5.10?03:05
mcdenyereugman, no03:05
brennerAzunai: and you can move the window around w/out using the titlebar03:05
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eugmanwhyameye you should do a search at video.google.com for ubuntu it has a video guide to a dual boot install03:05
cyphasecan someone recommend a good landscape wallpaper?03:05
Remillardahh03:05
Remillardshould have maybe tried lspci03:05
Remillardjust remembered that command03:05
Azunaiim new to linux mate been on it an hour now so thanks for the top brenner :)03:05
cyphasesomething bright03:05
dabaRRemillard: post output of ifconfig, and /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org03:05
anto9usRemillard, ifconfig shows same inet address as in gentoo?03:05
cyphaseAzunai, welcome :)03:05
minthttp://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/epian-white/?branch_id=62201&release_id=21701003:05
Aaron_Masonanybody know of any linux programs to get around DVD region restrictions?  Like AnyDVD or DVD Region Free, but for linux?03:05
Remillardanto9us: yep... and broadcast, mask, MAC address, etc03:05
mintanyone?03:05
eugmanmcdenyer: it's a wild card character . if you do sudo apt-get insteall gstreamer-0.8* it will install all file formats it can03:05
Doomhammeranyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?03:06
anto9usRemillard, do you have any other nic installed?03:06
minti cant get this thme to install, not sure if I need another program or something03:06
eugmanyou might still need some propietary ones like the w32codecs03:06
Remillardanto9us: yeah there's a wireless NIC which I'm not currently using03:06
mcdenyereugman, cool03:06
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anto9usRemillard, ifdown it03:06
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dabaRmint: is that a fluxbox theme?03:06
imexiusd3a is the best03:07
mcdenyereugman, gstreamer has the codecs i just need a different player03:07
AzunaiBIZZEH!!! HELP03:07
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mcdenyer about cli03:07
Azunaii got a huge problem03:07
johndarkhorseAzunai: please hold the drama03:07
Azunaii did the sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel command03:07
brennercyphase: you just want us to search for you don't you? ;-)03:07
Bizzehyes03:07
Azunaiand it said something about it cant find em03:07
Doomhammeranyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?03:07
Kyralthe modules source03:07
eugmanI'm only aware of totem mplayer and xine and I don't know which have in browser parts03:07
RemillarddabaR: thanks, i'll check /etc/network/interfaces... not real familiar yet with ubuntu's /etc structure03:07
Azunainow i got a box up saying do i wanna install something?03:07
Remillardanto9us: thanks, I'll try that too...03:07
Bizzehyou need to unlock universe and restricted03:07
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Bizzehthen apt-get update03:08
Richard_Simple(?) problem... When I try to install ubuntu on an XP machine it says initrd-tools package failed to install and fails. Anyone know what to do?03:08
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Remillardokay, well off to reboot and give it a shot03:08
Toma-if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :( My settings used to be static on the wifi card, but ive forgotten how to set it up03:08
Azunaiwooow one steo at a time?03:08
Bizzehthen apt-get -f install03:08
bimberiRemillard: also, make sure you have a default gateway set up (sudo route add default gw <address of router>"03:08
johndarkhorseubotu: tell Richard_ about verify03:08
Azunaiwhat do i do first?03:08
TokenBadwell shoot...I tried to install xchat 2.6.1 and no dice03:08
dabaRRemillard: post that file, and output of ifconfig if you will.03:08
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Bizzeh!ubuntu tell Azunai universe03:08
ubotuBizzeh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:08
BizzehPOS bot03:08
cyphasebrenner, no, i'm looking03:08
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cyphasebut i thought maybe someone had a good one03:09
dabaRthere is no reboots, wth? these gentoo users...;)03:09
anto9usRemillard, I've had problems between eth0 and wlan0 best to disable whichever isn't being used03:09
Azunaiargh blizzeh left03:09
dannoIn Ubuntu Breezy, I noticed that it doesn't automatically mount floppy disks, unlike other distributions of Linux. I looked in /etc/fstab and noticed that /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1 are set to "noauto" so if I set it to "auto" instead, will it automatically mount floppy disks like other distributions when I click on the floppy icon?03:09
Azunainow im screwed03:09
johndarkhorseAzunai: there are over 500 folks here that may be able to help you03:09
scenestarugh03:09
Azunaibut im half way through doing what he told me to do03:09
Azunailol03:09
lambwhere do i have to put a script in order to load it before x?03:09
Doomhammerdanno: no the "auto" option means it will attempt to mount the devices at boot03:09
scenestarlamb03:10
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scenestarinitrd03:10
lambscenestar, ?03:10
scenestarinitrd03:10
Azunaiok heres the problem03:10
Toma-anyone know anything about the route command? (other than man and rtfm)03:10
Azunaiim installing the ati drivers as descirbed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%2903:10
lambscenestar, is that a folder?03:10
Azunaithere03:10
mintis it complicated to install a new theme?03:10
scenestarlamb03:10
dabaRdanno: you could read the mount manual.03:10
dannoDoomhammer: oh, well how can I get it to automatically mount the floppy drive by clicking on the floppy icon like other distributions then, because I had to manually mount it with root and the people using this ubuntu system needed my help to do it right, is there a way I can help them to get it to automount like other distributions please?03:10
dannodabaR: I'm trying to do this in a short period of time otherwise I would, isn't this something simple?03:11
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lambscenestar, is initdr a folder??03:11
Doomhammerdanno: i have no idea... i just right-click on it a and choose "mount" before opening it :S03:11
scenestarfire up a terminal and do this: sudo slocate -u03:11
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mcdenyeri need help getting surround sound set up03:11
dabaRdanno: I have never yet seen someone have success with floppies, which means nothing really, but...03:11
dannoDoomhammer: I tried that it didn't work it said invalid or unknown file type but mounting it manually via sudo worked03:11
Azunaiand im up to the bit that says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernal03:11
dannodabaR: nor have I ever experienced this problem03:11
dabaRdanno: nice, good work.03:11
mintDoes anyone know how to install a themse from  Themes.Freshmeat.net03:11
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Doomhammerdanno: hmm, i dunno then, never had that happen :/03:11
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eugmanI think I know a roundabout way mint03:12
dannoDoomhammer: ok I tried searching the forums but they're down again03:12
mcdenyerjohndarkhorse, hey can u link me to a wiki about surround sound03:12
NNYdoes anybody know how to setup raid in the ubuntu install?03:12
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Azunaibut when i do that i get an error message in a blue box saying it cant be found then i press ok and it says do i wanna install something this isnt described in the readme03:12
dabaRmint: did you read the private message from ubotu?03:12
sexualpotatoeshow do i open the file browser as root?03:12
Toma-grr03:12
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eugmanactually nvm03:12
scenestarah03:12
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scenestarno wonder this place is flooeded03:12
scenestarhave fun helping out03:12
scenestario have no patience03:12
dannoDoomhammer: is there another channel on here with experienced Ubuntu users who could help me?03:13
anto9ussexualpotatoes, gksu nautilus03:13
JDigitalno03:13
yigalIs the web forum closed often?03:13
JDigital#ubuntu is pretty much it03:13
scenestardanno what sort of remark is that03:13
johndarkhorsedanno: just ask your question here03:13
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lambi made a script but i want ubuntu to run it before X, where do i put it??03:13
brennerdanno: i don't think changing it to auto would do anything ... for one, that isn't a valid option (man fstab, then type '/noauto' to find the section)03:13
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eugmanyigal, no just lately it's been down.03:13
dannoscenestar: a simple question, not a remark03:13
Doomhammerdanno: not that i know of ... sorry :(03:13
NNYnobody will answer my raid question =/03:13
scenestarits insulting03:13
dannoscenestar: your misconception then03:14
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scenestarnny somehting with fstab03:14
JDigitalNNY, danno: don't worry, sometimes people miss your question since it's so busy, and sometimes nobody is about when you ask it who knows the answer and has time to answer it03:14
imexiusumm why is the ubuntuf orums down again?03:14
scenestarand danno03:14
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dannobrenner: thanks hmmm03:14
eugman!patience03:14
ubotuThere are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.03:14
scenestargood luck finding help03:14
dannoJDigital: thanks03:14
dannoscenestar: thanks03:14
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imexiuswhy is the ubuntu forums down again?03:15
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eugman'cause03:15
imexiusgha03:15
dabaRimexius: why would we know?03:15
NNYhrm... i have been asking the same type of questions for a good 30-40 mins and one person sent me to a link that doesnt even work.... i just want to get raid setup on this server03:15
dannobrenner: thanks I have used other distributions and was surprised at having to mount the floppy manually with sudo for the owners of the system03:15
anto9usNNY, first create partitions of type raid then create a container and add the partitions to it03:15
scenestarthey didnt pay the gassbill03:15
bimberiNNY: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto (someone did point you to this earlier)03:15
hardtime664!ubuntu tell hardtime664 about sourcelist03:15
ubotuI don't know, hardtime66403:15
hardtime664!ubuntu tell hardtime664 about repositories03:15
ubotuhardtime664: Huh?03:15
brennerdanno: is mount removable media checked in sys > orefs > removable discs?03:15
NNYyep, they pointed me to that link earlier... and it doesnt work... it goes to the forums which are down atm03:16
brenner*prefs03:16
imexiusdabaR: this is the ubuntuforums irc channel, i think it is its duty to know :P03:16
bimberihardtime664: /msg ubotu <factoid>03:16
hardtime664guys whats the link for source lists?03:16
eugmanubotu: tell hardtime644 about sorcelist03:16
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lambwhere are ubuntu's boot scripts located????03:16
eugmanubotu tell hardtime644 about repositories03:16
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dabaRimexius: no, this channel dislikes forums on the most part, in fact.03:16
dannobrenner: sys > orefs?03:16
brennerimexius: most of us have nothing to do with the forums03:16
lambstartup scripts sorry03:16
brennerdanno: prefs, sorry03:16
bimberiNNY: ah, my apologies03:16
eugmanlamb would you be happy if thew script ran when you logged in?03:16
dannobrenner: i'm using kubuntu03:16
hardtime664!ubotu tell hardtime664 about repositories03:17
dabaRimexius: well, no, not true. Just we have nothing to do with them.03:17
hardtime664sorry guys03:17
dannobrenner: dont apologise I thank you for helping me03:17
lambeugman, i need it to run before x03:17
brennerdanno: oh.  have you asked in #kubuntu?03:17
Doomhammeranyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?03:17
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eugmanah, k.03:17
dabaRNNY: as you can read, ubuntuforums are not working, that is why the link did not work that was given.03:17
dannobrenner: no i will try thanks03:17
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NNYbimberi: I have a promise and intel raid controller on my mobo (asus pc-dl delux)... nieither of them made it to see one drive in the ubuntu setup. so now im attempting to setup the software raid in it03:17
hardtime664hmm doesn't work, guys whats the command to see source/reps - bot?03:18
bimberiNNY: sorry, i don't know how to set up raid controllers :|03:18
lambeugman, so do you know where do i have to put it?? its  a script to correct my resolution so i need it to run before x starts03:18
bimberihardtime664: /msg ubotu sources03:18
eugmansorry no03:19
VR823 /by03:19
lambk, thanks anyways03:19
NNYbimberi: well not trying to set them up.. i gave up on that option. I'm trying to setup the software raid in the ubuntu install and im utterly lost at that part03:19
imexiushttp://ubuntugaming.org <-- good forums03:19
anto9usNNY, you'll need to set your boot partition on the ATA drive as boot loader won't see the raid03:19
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hardtime664tx bimberi03:19
AzunaiWhat do i need to install the flgrx kernal the 386 or 686 version?03:19
mintk so i am in /home/mint/Desktop in the ternimal  how do i get to /usr/shared/themes03:20
bimberihardtime664: np :)03:20
mintim in as root03:20
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TokenBadwhat is lperl?03:20
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mint about cli03:20
mintahh03:20
mintyes03:20
mintim going back to look at that page03:20
anto9usNNY, first create partitions of type raid then create a container and add the partitions to it03:20
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AzunaiWhat do i need to install the flgrx kernal the 386 or 686 version?03:20
lambanyone knows where ubuntu's startup scripts are??03:21
ownereither azunai03:21
anto9usNNY, your first raid container will be called md003:21
Azunaithx owner03:21
ssstormyI'm trying to use Kino to edit some of my video, but even though it's DV, the video dosn't play at full speed even with the LOWEST (black and white, pixelated) setting, while it plays fine on other players, even the XviD version03:21
NNYanto9us: would you mind walking me through all that? i am very new to raid and dont know really much at all about linux partitions... i usually have them done automatically03:21
ssstormyis anyone familiar enough with kino to help me with this?03:21
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dannodo I need to specify vfat in my fstab settings file for floppy for it to automount?03:22
GKJ!help03:22
dannono one talking in kubuntu so i ask here03:22
GKJI am a newbie here and this is the first time I use RIC03:22
GKJsorry, irc03:22
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anto9usNNY, ok, working from memory, first create partitions of type linux raid on the drives you want to include in the raid03:22
Doomhammerquake4 is complaining about "frames overflowed and dropped" while outputting sound... how do i fix this?03:22
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TokenBadanyone know what lperl is?  I get an error about this when trying to install xchat 2.6.103:23
dannoshould I just add vfat to /etc/fstab for my floppy drive to automount?03:23
dabaRdanno: you would be best to read the mount man page03:23
n00bHELLOOOOOOOO03:23
n00bhey guys03:23
AzunaiRight according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?03:23
n00bhow can i use macromedia products in linux?03:23
dannodabaR: I would like to but I don't have time, I have to fly back soon from my grandparent's house03:23
n00blike for example flash and fireworks03:23
anto9usNNY, you want to add a boot partition and swap partition outside the raid, so reserve some space for them03:23
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Toma-Ive got my wifi working... sort of.  It is infact a DHCP setup, but when i run 'dhclient wlan0' it looks for a dhcp adress at 255.255.255.255... i know thats wrong, so i tried the -s <ip-to-router> and that didnt work either. Im guessing theres something im missing here?03:23
dabaRdanno: you have been here longer than it takes to find out.03:24
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elihello everyone03:24
GKJhi, eli03:24
GKJare you new here?03:24
dannodabaR: you have been responding long enough to help me then ?03:24
elianybody know how to resolve this problem with ati video drivers?03:25
Richard_johndarkhorse - I don't have a linux installation running so the verify routines won't help - any other way to do it?03:25
eli extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".03:25
eliGKJ, no im not new just havent been here for a while03:25
NNYanto9us: could we talk in private chat?03:25
skonIs there a way to upgrade xchat via the repository?03:25
AzunaiRight according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?03:25
dabaRdanno: I helped you, but maybe not in the way you want.03:25
dabaRdanno: If I had felt like reading the manual instead of you, then no.03:25
anto9usNNY, I charge UK30 per hour03:25
dannodabaR: wow thanks03:25
dabaRdanno: welcome.03:25
dannodabaR: I'll never have to use IRC again, I'll just read the man files03:26
mintdoes anyone know how to install themes from freshmeat?03:26
NNYanto9us: hrmmmmm03:26
mintthere is not theme file03:26
brennerdanno: since it sounds like a generic question, you could also try #linuxhelp03:26
GKJit seems you are an old user, but I am new, so I am puzzled about your talking03:26
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dabaRGKJ: did you ask your question yet?03:26
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skonIs there a way to upgrade xchat via the repository?03:26
dannobrenner: thank you i will try that too03:26
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n00bwho is ubotu?03:26
AzunaiRight according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?03:26
johndarkhorseubotu: tell n00b about yourself03:26
brennerskon: nothing but security updates until the next release iirc03:26
eugmanUntill you figure out how ,mint, you could get some themes from art.gnome.com with the art manager03:26
dabaRdanno: you sometimes need to read the page. No offense.03:26
bluefoxicyAnyone else experiencing excessive CPU utilization in dapper?03:26
elia highly intellegent being03:27
eepberrieshello. i'm new to linux. i installed a program but i don't know where it installed to nor how to run it. i tried installing the Firestarter firewall. how do i access it?03:27
dannodabaR: i know i was trying to hurry though thank you for your help03:27
GKJdabaR03:27
skonbrenner: so i must get it myself from the site?03:27
dannodabaR: when you have old people bickering over your back it makes you want to try to get things done faster :)03:27
eugmaneeepberries: Applications -> system tools03:27
brennerskon: yes, pretty much.03:27
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GKJNo, not yet, I installed the system on my laptop yesterday and didn't know what to do next03:27
dabaRdanno: good luck.03:27
bluefoxicyhttp://rafb.net/paste/results/LV2Eil88.html  Thys is constant.03:27
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NNYanto9us: the problem is i dont understand what you were saying about the raid config03:28
dannodabaR: thanks03:28
eepberrieseug: it's not listed under system tools03:28
anto9usNNY, you know how to create a partition?03:28
NNYanto9us: i dont know much about raid or linux partitions03:28
GKJMy major system is Windows XP, but I want to try linux, so I think mapping from windows to linux is important, isn't it?03:28
bluefoxicynotice X is using 40%, update-notifier 30%, the notification tray uses 20% itself.03:28
eugmanhow did you install it?03:28
dabaRbluefoxicy: are you comlpaining about the CPU, or the RAM?03:28
bluefoxicydabaR:  the CPU03:28
bluefoxicydabaR:  the RAM usage is actually good for what I have as a working set.03:28
eepberriesi used the add applications utility03:28
NNYanto9us: yes, i just dont know what they all mean in linux... the various swap, /, ext303:28
eugmanubotu tell eugman about ku03:29
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eugmanubotu tell eugman about kubuntu03:29
GKJI am reading the manual of Ubuntu, maybe I will be acquitained with the system some hours later03:29
dabaRbluefoxicy: tried restarting X?03:29
uber_spacedNNY, what do you need to know?03:29
bluefoxicydabaR:  that's what I just did, that's how the CPU usage came to be what it is.03:29
bluefoxicydabaR:  wow, a 'killall update-notifier' resolves it.03:29
eugmanhmmm. odd03:29
Toma-file a bug, and move on03:30
anto9usNNY, create a partition of type ext3 of about 100Mb and set it's mount point as /boot then create a swap partition of what size you think is adequate, about twice ram size is what I go for...03:30
NNYuber_spaced: im trying to setup two 80gb drives to act as one... i gave up on my onboard raid controller... so now im trying to set them up using software raid in ubuntu install. But i dont know what to choose or how to set it all up03:30
bluefoxicydabaR:  of the 4 in that pastebin, the lower 3 drop off the top display; and xorg drops to 2.7%03:30
brennereepberries: try running a terminal and typing: 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh the menu03:30
Jon_KindermanI am new to linux, how can i set up a file sharing server using ubuntu, or is there a better distro for it/03:30
dabaRbluefoxicy: good.03:30
eepberriesalright i'll try that03:30
brennereepberries: if not, you can run it from the terminal, or add a shortcut yourself03:30
NNYanto9us: do this on both drives or just one?03:30
GKJhi, Jon, I am new too, but I think I am newer than u03:30
anto9usNNY, then create partitions of type Linux raid with no mount points on drives you want to include in the raid03:30
bluefoxicydabaR:  restarting update-notifier doesn't recreate the problem.  Must be a burp.03:31
uber_spacedNNY, I dont have much experience w/ raid stuff.03:31
psusiNNY, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto?03:31
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dabaRJon_Kinderman: Ubuntu is fine. What OS do you want to share files with?03:31
anto9usNNY, the /boot should be on a drive that your bios can see, not one attached to the raid controller03:31
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Jon_Kindermanwindows and if possible mac03:31
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fuelirssi rules03:32
anto9usNNY, swap can be anywhere you like03:32
eepberriesbrenner: that did it. thanks03:32
Azunaihow do you download from apt-get and not install it just download it03:32
dabaRJon_Kinderman: Use samba for windows. Not sure about Macs. NFS is I think a little more involved to set up, but not sure, but I think that supports everything.03:32
Toma-or just make a swapfile :O03:32
AstinusWould anyone know why Ubuntu Forums are broken?03:32
brennereepberries: np03:32
eepberriesbut i just got a weird notification. it said something like "could not grab mouse: a malicious user is possibly watching in on your session"03:32
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johndarkhorseeepberries: are you running a high system load right now?03:33
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Azunaihow do you download from apt-get and not install it just download it03:33
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eepberriesnot that i know of. i accidentally clicked the "add applications" button twice though when it happened03:33
glaciousis it common for K3b to not show the FIFO or Device buffer info?  just says "no info"03:34
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eugmanAstinus: Zeus sneezed perhaps.03:34
dcodeI'm trying to use the session dbus, but when I start the session, no socket is made under /tmp03:34
brennerAzunai: i've always just gone through: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/03:34
bimberiAzunai: sudo apt-get install -d <package>03:34
anto9usNNY, when they're set up you can set create partitions of type linux raid, they won't do anything till you add them to a container and then set the container as a mount point you probably want to set it as /03:34
brennerbut that's probably better. :-)03:35
Astinuseugman: Just wondered ;)03:35
glaciouswhat is growisofs?  can any DVD reader read it, even in windows?03:35
NNYanto9us: sorry mate.... but you have completely lost me with all of this =(03:35
anto9usNNY, container will be called md003:35
johndarkhorseAzunai: in a terminal type03:35
brennerbimberi: does that dowload depending debs as well?03:35
eugmanPerhaps an op can change the topic to : Forums are down. We don't know why.03:35
johndarkhorse"man apt-get" Azunai03:35
brenner*download even03:35
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Azunaiim not sure thats what i need to do tho03:35
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Azunaiim very confused at the minuite03:35
dabaRdate03:36
bimberibrenner: i'm fairly sure so03:36
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dabaRoops03:36
anto9usNNY, well, raid does require some understanding of partitioning03:36
pablo928Hi everybody. Is there a way to edit configuration files on a ubuntu server via ssh?03:36
mintHow do u install oen of these themes from freshmeat????03:36
mintI copied it to the themes folder03:36
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mintnothing03:36
johndarkhorseAzunai: in the terminal, after you type "man apt-get" it will answer your question03:36
Kyralpablo928: ssh in and do it with a text editor?03:36
mintand it sayd the file format is invalid when i try to install03:36
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mint about themes03:36
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fuelwhats a good terminal?03:36
minti saw that03:36
mintbut im trying to install this specific one03:36
mintand it wotn install03:37
dabaRmint: you are installing a fluxbox theme onto gnome, I told you before actually.03:37
NNYanto9us: do you possibly have a spare box that you could boot up and help me through the setup screens of this?03:37
anto9usNNY, I'm just pointing out the requirements and the order in which to do things03:37
mintdabar: i am 100% new03:37
NNYanto9us: i know thats asking alot =/03:37
anto9usNNY, not here, only have my laptop03:37
Azunaibut the problem is im following a tuturial and it says do sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but i get a nice box up saying it cant find the kernel then it offers me some sort of download i think which fails ?03:37
Azunaiso i dont know what to do03:37
mintdoes tha mean it just is not going to work03:37
dabaRmint: not that I notices.03:37
pablo928 Kyral-when I do that it says that that is not supported.03:37
brennermint: how are you trying to install it?03:37
dabaRs/s/d/03:37
fuelanyone?03:37
minti used the install option03:37
mintthat didnt work03:37
fuelgood terminal?03:37
mintthen i just used terminal to copy the Dir03:38
mintto /usr/share/themes03:38
brennerfuel: gnome-terminal works fine for me03:38
bimberifuel: gnome-terminal works for me03:38
dabaRmint: that theme is not for your windows, in essence.03:38
mintgotcha03:38
bimberibrenner: :)03:38
johndarkhorsefuel: there are dozens of terminals, each with good and bad03:38
brennerbimberi: heh03:38
anto9usNNY, I've given the information you need, you shouldn't need much else, first create partitions then the raid and set mount points, swap will automatically set its mount point03:38
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Toma-mint, its easier, (if its just for you) to install it in ~/.themes03:38
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dabaRToma-: it seems he has a fluxbox theme, and uses metacity03:39
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anto9usNNY, raid type 0 is a stripe for speed and type 1 is for mirroring03:39
Toma-oh my.03:39
KnowerrorsCan anyone tell me how to remove all carriage returns in a document?03:39
soaphow to use sudo03:40
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fuelcan i config gnometerminal to be borderless and titleless in my background?03:40
brennerKnowerrors: dos2unix command03:40
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NNYanto9us: one sec, i have an idea03:40
dabaRKnowerrors: be more specific, I think.03:40
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n00bZOMG ADOBE BOUGHT MACROMEDIA03:40
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Toma-:O03:40
GKJwho uses latex to work03:40
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beardousaI just added a sound card to my system.  How do I get Ubuntu to detect it?03:40
AzunaiKryal: i need ur expertise again :(03:41
Razor-Xhmmm, I'm having some troubles getting GLX configured for nVidia03:41
Kyralhuh?03:41
minthow do i delete the entire dir03:41
crimsunbeardousa: it should be configured automatically03:41
Razor-Xn00b: ahhh, maybe Macromedia will turn around :P03:41
mintusr/share/themes/EpianWhite03:41
eugmansoap do you need to know how to use sudo?03:41
mintrm wont do it03:41
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imexiussudo nvidia-glx03:41
imexiussudo nvidia-glx-config enable03:41
soapyes03:41
Razor-Ximexius: yes, I have nvidia-glx installed03:41
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brennerGKJ: i /have/ used it. why?03:41
Razor-Ximexius: and yes, it's enabled03:41
soapi wanna to know it03:41
KnowerrorsdabaR: Ive got a text document I opened in Kate, and openoffice, that has carrige returns that make it one long skinny column down the left hand side03:41
imexiusdid you reboot?03:41
kasemodzdoes anyone when ubuntu forums would be back up?03:41
Razor-Ximexius: but when I tell my xorg.conf to use ``nvidia'' device instead of ``nv'', it hangs03:41
Richard_regarding verify of the install media, there is a way to intercept the install and generate the hash key, but it requires a knowledge of the image size - how can I measure it?03:42
KnowerrorsdabaR: and I want it to spread out and fill the whole page03:42
Razor-Ximexius: yes03:42
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Razor-Ximexius: I rebotted my X server and the machine03:42
GKJbrenner: good, and what kind of packages do you install on your Ubuntu03:42
brennerGKJ: tetex-bin03:42
beardousacrimsun: it didn't say that it detected anything new, and anywhere I have a list of sound cards to select from it's still blank.  Could it be because this is an old (pre-plug-and-play?) ISA Sound Blaster AWE32?03:42
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dabaRKnowerrors: and where was this document created, what format is it?03:42
crimsunbeardousa: then you need to ``sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''03:42
beardousathanks03:42
eugmanwell you place it before a command like "sudo rm -rf bob/" and then type in your password. You won't see any charachters but it'll take the password03:42
eugmanalternatively if yo use gnome you can replace sudo with gksudo03:43
GKJbrenner:only tetex-bin?03:43
zblachhey, can i chat with skypers through gaim?03:43
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brennerGKJ: well, that was all i needed.03:43
mintwhats the command to delete a directory03:43
imexiusRazor-X: you should have to manually change it, it should alrady be "nvidia"03:43
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Razor-Xmint: rmdir, or rm -r03:43
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imexiusRazor-X: shouldn't03:43
GKJbrenner: I am Chinese, so I want to typeset articles with Chinese03:43
eugmanspeaking of which anyone know why I get this:03:43
eugman(nautilus:19894): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:03:43
eugmanAuthentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.03:43
Razor-Ximexius: ah, heh03:44
beardousacrimsun: no changes yet.  I suppose I need to restart alsa?03:44
beardousaor maybe it was never started in the first place03:44
mintRazor-x: thank you !03:44
crimsunbeardousa: no, cat /proc/asound/cards03:44
brennerGKJ: ah, wouldn't know about that.  but have you searched for tex related packages?03:44
Razor-Ximexius: well, it says ``nv'' on mine, glxgears does nothing03:44
GKJbrenner: wut kind of articles or books did you typeset under your packages on your machine03:44
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Razor-Xcorrection, glxgears magicall segfaults after I disabled glcore and dri :P03:44
beardousaoh, there it is03:44
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GKJbrenner: yeah, lots of package and they dependent on other packages, a little puzzle03:45
imexiusRazor-X: when you say it hangs when you try to change it what do you mean? Like when your saving yoru xorg.conf?03:45
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crimsunbeardousa: you should be able to use System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card03:45
brennerGKJ: pretty simple stuff ... nothing really complex03:45
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Razor-Ximexius: no, xorg.conf is edited fine, I either try ``startx'' or ``sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'' and it doesen't work03:45
KnowerrorsdabaR: its a document I copypasted from an email into kate03:45
n00bhey guys how do i enable stereo sound on my system?03:45
beardousacrimsun: yep, now it's there03:45
beardousathanks for the help!03:46
GKJbrenner: simple, yeah, simple is good, and how can I make it simple?03:46
Razor-Xstartx returns errors that it couldn't load the screen, because it couldn't load the device, and I don't know what's going wrong in the ``device'' portion of my config, assuming I use ``nvidia'' instead of ``nv''03:46
crimsunbeardousa: np. If you want to load it always, then: echo snd-sbawe | sudo tee -a /etc/modules03:46
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Razor-Ximexius: if I use ``nv'', it works fine, but glxgears simply segfaults03:46
brennerGKJ: i'm not sure how that would help you.  i wrote my stuff in english03:46
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beardousaoh, that would have been an unpleasant surprise03:46
mintanyone have the URL for the right vbersion of (apt-get)03:46
pablo928when I try to edit a remote file with gedit via ssh I receive a error message of GTK error: cannot open the display. How can I edit remote files?03:47
Toma-!dhcp03:47
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Toma-03:47
anto9usKnowerrors, I don't know if kate supports it but you can try a search and replace on \n03:47
johndarkhorsepablo928: use nano, gedit is a gui program03:47
Razor-XGKJ: you want cjk-latex03:47
GKJbrenner: that's ok, english is ok, and the second language of mine is english,03:47
n00bhelooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo03:47
Razor-XGKJ: that's my next project, only I'll be typing Japanese :)03:47
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Knowerrorsanto9us: what about Openoffice?03:47
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GKJbrenner: I want to make the latex system take effect with english03:47
anto9usKnowerrors, I think that should do it, yes03:47
n00bi need to enable stereo sound... how do i do it03:47
brennerGKJ: there you go...i'm deferring to Razor-X :)03:47
GKJhi, Razor-X03:47
pablo928johndarkhorse-I thank you very much!03:47
Razor-XGKJ: hola03:47
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GKJRazor: are you a Japanese?03:48
nullerhowcome no iTunes for linux? :'(03:48
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Razor-Xnuller: 'cuz it's closed source03:48
Razor-Xand Apple doesen't want to make a version for Linux03:48
GKJhold on everybody, I will be back in 1min :)03:48
nullerrazor-x, no alternative?03:48
Razor-XGKJ: on standby.... :P03:48
Razor-Xnuller: there are03:48
sexualpotatoesis there a program that i can use to mount a ntfs partition?03:49
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Razor-Xnuller: hold on, I'm a gonna start up my browser03:49
Razor-Xsexualpotatoes: ``mount'' does the trick fine03:49
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fueldoes xterm support transparent bg's?03:49
eugmansexualpotatoes. I know of none but you can edit fstab to auto mount the partition03:49
imexiusrazor-x: my glxgears what does segfaults mean exactly?03:49
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anto9ussexualpotatoes, mount will do it but readonly03:49
dannobrenner: thank you for recommending #linuxhelp earlier, one person was very kind enough to solve the floppy issue for me thank you !03:49
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Razor-Ximexius: I type in ``glxgears'', it returns ``zsh: segmentation fault glxgears''03:50
Knowerrorsanto9us: whats the symbold for new paragraph?03:50
brennerdanno: you're welcome03:50
nullerRazor-X, you don't have to look for me now that I've been made aware03:50
elihello everyone, anyone know how to make fglrx change the screen size? i have a problem that the driver assumes a 1200x76803:50
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GKJRazor & brenner: Back03:50
Razor-Xnuller: it's IRC habit03:50
sexualpotatoesanto9us just type mount in terminal?03:50
brennerdanno: out of interest, what was the fix?03:50
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anto9usKnowerrors, I think it's in openoffice.org helpfile03:51
oceandeaddoesnt iTunes run in crossover office?03:51
philippe_hey...03:51
Razor-Xsexualpotatoes: ``sudo mount /dev/path/to/hdd /mnt/existing/mount/point'' where /dev/path/to/hdd is the path to your HDD, and /mnt/existing/mount/point is an existing mount point :P03:51
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oceandeaddunno bout wine03:51
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imexiusrazor-x: thats really weird, what graphics card are you using?03:51
philippe_anybody want to help me out with some fun wifi pcmcia card issues?03:51
Remillard\topic03:51
oneseventeenIs there a way to mount my apple's hard drive so I can view/print files from it?03:51
oneseventeen(I'm in an Ubuntu Live CD session on an iBook)03:51
yigalhow can a usbdisk be renamed?  The device is just called "991.5 MB Removable Volume" when it automounts on my breezy.  I want to give it a name like "yigal's usb disk" etc.03:51
imexiuswhere is fstab in buntu?03:52
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oceandead/etc/fstab03:52
yigalyes03:52
Razor-Xnuller: try out ``banshee''03:52
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sexualpotatoesRazor-X I am confused03:52
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Razor-Ximexius: a shitty Nvidia TNT2 RIVA Pro 6403:52
eugmanyigal  open fstab03:52
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Razor-Xsexualpotatoes: ah, you know what mount points and stuff are?03:52
yigalok03:52
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varsendaggerimexius, same old place03:53
nullerit seems that I can't even play .aac03:53
sexualpotatoesRazor-X i am a noob03:53
Razor-Ximexius: it worked in Hoary, Breezy seems to have broken this03:53
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fuelintel's in macs?03:53
anto9ussexualpotatoes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNTFSonBoot?highlight=ntfs03:53
dannobrenner: switching <type> in /etc/fstab from auto to vfat03:53
philippe_I will love you forever if you help me get my wifi working03:53
eugmanit probably has your usb listed there. does it?03:53
pestilencei just bought a new stick of memory for my computer, ran memtest86 on it, and it gets errors on test 5.03:53
imexiusrazor-x: have you considered upgrading your graphics card :P03:53
brennerdanno: simple enough :-) anyway, gald you fixed it03:53
nullerRazor-X,   It's not that I need a music manager.  I want to buy music03:53
pestilenceso i put in the old memory in the same spot, and it gets errors on test 5 too03:53
anto9uspestilence, take it back and ask for a replacement03:53
sexualpotatoesthnaks03:54
mintis apt-get already installed ?03:54
imexiusin the options section in fstab do i have to put -o umask=000 or can i just put umask=000 ?03:54
pestilenceneither get errors on the first slot03:54
mintlike built in03:54
oneseventeencan you mount other partitions and use Ubuntu Live CD as a system repair CD (like knoppix)?03:54
Remillardanto9us: ifup/down didn't seem to help things... I cut and pasted a bunch of commands while I was there into a file... it's on pastebin now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750203:54
dannobrenner: i'm very glad too my grandparents are grateful, and i have you to thank for your recommendation of channels for help!03:54
nullerBanshee looks nicer than Amarok :)03:54
pestilenceanto9us, i don't think it's the memory.  i think it's the slot on my motherboard03:54
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NNYanto9us: im sending you a PM03:54
Razor-Xsexualpotatoes: the theory behind mount is this, the physical interface to the device resides in /dev/, for example, my Windows NTFS partition is /dev/hda1, yours is different (/dev/hda2 maybe?), mount takes the files from the physical interface and then puts them into a directory on your HDD. The directory I mount it to is /mnt/windows. In order to make sure the mountpoint exists, I simply did ``sudo mkdir /mnt/windows'', becau03:54
Razor-Xse /mnt/windows is my mountpoint03:54
brennerdanno: heh.  no worriesd03:54
GKJstandby again03:54
Razor-Ximexius: ah, that comes later03:54
anto9uspestilence, have you checked the pins? cleaned the slot?03:54
Razor-Xjust got a grand-spakin' new monitor today03:54
imexiusdoes anyone know?03:54
RemillardI don't see the fellow with the 'd' name still here03:54
pestilenceanto9us, i vacuumed it with my vacuum, but that's about all i have.03:55
philippe_i have a netgear and a belkin pcmcia wifi cards, and neither of them works.03:55
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imexiusin the options section in fstab do i have to put -o umask=000 or can i just put umask=000 ?03:55
pestilenceanto9us, what's the best way to clean the slots03:55
_tccHow do i set up SSH?03:55
_tccOn a terminal server?03:55
_tccWith base install.03:55
johndarkhorse_tcc: install the 'ssh' package03:55
Razor-Ximexius: after you have it mounted, try a ``cat /etc/mtab'' and copy the line that deals with your HDD straight into fstab03:55
mintroot@MINTx:/# sudo apt-get install gnome-art03:55
mintE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)03:55
mintE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?03:55
_tccIts installed.03:55
brennerRemillard: dabaR has left, if that's who you mean03:55
minthelp please03:55
Razor-Ximexius: I find it the easiest way to work03:55
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Razor-Xphilippe_: have you tried ndiswrapper?03:55
johndarkhorsemint: please do not paste in here03:55
mintoh.. sorry bout that03:55
brennermint: do you have synaptic open?03:55
philippe_yes, i have.03:55
Azunaiok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?03:55
_tccjohndarkhorse, its on.03:55
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pestilenceanto9us, i don't think it's the pins on the card, but it certainly could be the ones on the motherboard03:55
Remillardbrenner: yep... that was the name... think he was the one who suggested putting ifconfig into pastebin03:56
johndarkhorse_tcc: then it is running03:56
brennermint: or any other apt-tool?03:56
oneseventeen_tcc to install the server, so you can ssh into it, you should be able to "apt-get install openssh-server"03:56
imexiusim just going to pull it right out of fstab then03:56
mintsynaptic03:56
MrProper_where do change what firefox uses to open embedded pdf files?03:56
eugmanCHAOS!03:56
anto9uspestilence, yes, that's what I'm suggesting03:56
Azunaisorry the box says cannot find kernel headers03:56
philippe_razor-X: is that supposed to work to install any wifi drivers?03:56
oneseventeen(sorry just jumping into the middle of a conversation, I should read the previous messages first, I know)03:56
pestilenceanto9us, what does one use to clean it?  it's pretty thin...03:56
Remillardthis is just bizarre... the only thing I don't see on the ifconfig between the gentoo and ubuntu ifconfig is "RUNNING" (which is maybe something)...03:56
philippe_Netgear has a linux driver on its site, but I don't know how to install it.03:56
yigalum about usbdisk can anyone help with the name?03:56
Razor-Xeugman: you get used to it after a while :P03:56
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NNYanto9us: did you get my PM?03:56
Remillardnot sure how/why that flag gets set03:56
Azunaiok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?03:57
Azunaiok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?03:57
brennermint: either close it, or use it to install gnome-art.  you can't use >1 apt tools at a time03:57
Razor-XAzunai: ok, please stop saying that03:57
johndarkhorseAzunai: please dont repeat03:57
mintit says it "Couldnt find packlage gnome-art"03:57
Azunaii didnt mean to03:57
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anto9uspestilence, a clean, lint free, cloth03:57
Razor-XAzunai: secondly, are you compiling this?03:57
philippe_I did the ndiswrapper thing but the driver didn't install pproperly either03:57
imexiusRazor-x: so i cant just add umask=000 under options?03:57
mintbrenner, isnt that technically supposed to download it for me03:57
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mint about repos03:57
pestilenceanto9us, how do you get it in the slot, though03:57
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johndarkhorsemint: enable universe and multiverse repos03:57
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Razor-Xphilippe_: are you using a dirver for W2K/WXP ?03:57
brennerubotu: tell mint about universe03:57
Azunaii dont know what im doing razor-x im doing what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 tells me to do03:57
Razor-Ximexius: I never really read about fstab, I just copied the line straight from my mtab :)03:58
Razor-XAzunai: ah, heh03:58
anto9uspestilence, fold it around something thin03:58
kevmanMy Ubuntu installs hang at "configuring Network Interfaces" for a long time (10 minutes) if there's no network cable plugged in. Can I stop this?03:58
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imexiusrazor-x: i just tested it, it works03:58
johndarkhorseubotu: tell kevman about bum03:58
brennermint: the command is right.  like johndarkhorse said, you have to enable the universe repo03:58
KnowerrorsIs there an IRC for Openoffice?03:58
philippe_razor-x: if the linux driver is posted, is it still better to use the win2k driver?  I tried both, in any case.03:58
Knowerrorsfound it03:58
mintis that like the (universal dump of linux stuff)03:59
Azunaiso Razor-X u any idea what i should do?03:59
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Razor-XAzunai: did you install the kernel drivers?03:59
philippe_razor-x: is there a simple way to install any driver?03:59
Razor-Xphilippe_: ah, Linux drivers *are* best03:59
anto9usRemillard, do you have this on a dual boot machine?03:59
Razor-Xphilippe_: but remember, don't use the Linux dirvers in ndiswrapper03:59
Azunaiive done everything on that site up to the part were it says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel03:59
Razor-Xno, wireless isn't exactly the... easiest thing in Linux03:59
yigaleugman: it probably has your usb listed there. does it? Sorry my first time on irc, tried to connect to you personally but I guess I didn't.  No usb is not listed there.03:59
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NNYanto9us: did you recieve my PM?03:59
philippe_razor-x: right... so what do I do once I get the driver?03:59
anto9usNNY, no03:59
Azunaion the using the ati drivers from the ati site04:00
anto9usNNY, and I don't want to04:00
Remillardanto9us: Yep.04:00
Razor-XAzunai: so, what does a ``dpkg -l | grep linux-header'' return?04:00
ardchoilleNNY: you aren't idenitified to nickserv, so you can't pm someone who is id'd04:00
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NNYanto9us: how do i go about getting id'd?04:01
anto9usRemillard, have you tried from a cold boot?04:01
yigalwell i better id myself04:01
Razor-Xphilippe_: here's loosely how you do it (the included INSTALL or README file will say it better than I can), untar/gzip the source, compile the source, then modprobe the drivers04:01
AzunaiRazor-X i copied and pasted ``dpkg -l | grep linux-header'' and nothing came up at all04:01
anto9usNNY, /msg nickserv help04:01
yigallater come back with my name04:01
Razor-XAzunai: ah, no wonder :)04:01
philippe_razor-x:  shit, that sounds complicated.04:01
Remillardanto9us: Nope... is there some reason why that would be preferred?... the other half of the dual-boot is coming up fine every time after restart04:01
philippe_how do I compile?  how do I modprobe?04:01
Razor-XAzunai: ``sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` '' should do it04:01
AzunaiRazor-X so should i apt-get fglrx-kernel?04:01
Razor-Xphilippe_: ah :)04:01
Remillardanto9us: I can try anything... just curious04:01
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philippe_razor-x: and no, the help files don't help04:02
Razor-Xphilippe_: here's what you do, go to the site of the drivers, and get the source04:02
AzunaiRazor-X with the ''?04:02
Razor-Xunpack the source, open a terminal, and hit ``./configure''04:02
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Razor-XAzunai: nope, those are my (and LaTeX's) right quotes04:02
anto9usRemillard, I've seen windows leave network cards in inoperable states, it's probably not an issue but worth dismissing anyway04:02
Azunaiah ok04:02
johndarkhorseubotu: tell philippe_ about compile04:02
Razor-XAzunai: that's why it's set off04:02
Remillardanto9us: well it's not dual boot with windows04:02
anto9usRemillard, ok04:02
Razor-Xjohndarkhorse: oh, thanks, didn't know that was there04:02
tonyyarussoWonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.04:03
Remillardanto9us: dual boot gentoo linux & ubuntu... decided to try ubuntu out hoping for easier international keyboard configuration :)04:03
AzunaiRazor-x ok its installing something now :)04:03
mintI like ubuntu04:03
Razor-XAzunai: heh, cool, after this is done, continue with the guide as normal04:03
minti can get used to this04:03
anto9usRemillard, are you on a gigabit switch?04:03
Razor-XRemillard: I use Dvorak, and it works for that04:03
AzunaiRazor-X ok they should put that in the guide to be honest :)04:03
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Remillardanto9us: doubt it... basic linksys wrt54t04:04
Razor-XAzunai: that's what it means by ``install Linux headers'' (they didn't do a very good job, though)04:04
Razor-Xthis monitor is.... beautiful04:04
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tonyyarussoHow can I make gdesklets start on login?04:04
Razor-X... wish glx was working -_-04:04
AzunaiRazor-X they should write a "noobs" guide to installing click here >>> ive spent since 9oclock last night trying to fix this and its now 03:04am04:05
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Knowerrorsanto9us: it didn't work :(04:05
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Razor-XAzunai: hehe, yeah, I think I may add that in meself04:05
RemillardRazor-X: cool, and thanks... what I really need is japanese language support but if it swaps with dvorak easy it'll probably do me fine04:05
Razor-XRemillard: that works too :)04:05
brennermint: 1st distro?04:05
anto9usKnowerrors, you need to use regexp pattern match04:05
dannook now that the floppy loads after changing <type> auto -> to -> <type> vfat it doesn't let me write to it. What setting do I need to change in /etc/fstab for this? sounds like a permissions issue?04:05
KnowerrorsAnto9us: Ive got a text document I pasted into OOo writer from an email, that make it one long skinny column down the left hand side... how do I reformat this quickly to take up the whole page left to right? its not really a column per se, its just left justified, with each line only going less than halfway across the screen04:05
AzunaiRazor-X i been using linux since 9pm and so far its all cool apart from that driver thing i aint ever formating this machine again!04:06
Razor-XRemillard: although, it depends on what you do with that, I can use Japanese in most X apps, and emacs :)04:06
Razor-XAzunai: :)04:06
cr1msonWhat package is the Application Installer?  I removed a package and my Add Application from Applications panel disappeared.04:06
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dcodeis there a way to set a umask on an xfs filesystem?  for all files?04:06
Azunairight i need to reboot i hope to god this works brb :) hopefully "Gulp"04:06
Razor-XAzunai: good luck :)04:06
AzunaiRazor-X thank you :)04:06
RemillardRazor-X: not sure yet... probably class materials and email... but I gotta get this bloody network card connecting first04:06
Razor-XRemillard: I myself use a setup with canna and kinput204:07
anto9usRemillard, is it set for dhcp?04:07
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dannothis is weird, I've used plenty of Linux distributions and never had this floppy issue04:07
Remillardanto9us: no... i've tried that though and it doesn't succeed requesting a address04:07
NNYantous: well since i cant PM you please visit here http://xilace.no-ip.com:9000 its a webcam pointed at the ubuntu box... maybe this will help04:07
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cbryantI have an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller which is preventing me from installing Ubuntu....the installer just crashes...any ideas on how I can make it work?04:08
dannowhy do I have to use sudo to write to a floppy?04:08
cr1msonDoes anybody know what the Application Installer package is called?04:08
anto9usRemillard, the module doesn't seem to be communicating with the hardware then, you might try unloading and then reloading it04:08
Aaron_Masondanno, most likely it's mounted with root as the owner04:08
Aaron_Masonwhich means you need to be root to write to it04:08
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brennercr1mson: /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install04:09
dannoAaron_Mason: I can mount it as a user, how may I write to it as a user?04:09
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brennercr1mson: whoops. misread you, sorry04:09
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kevmanWhat is the package name for the stuff needed to compile?04:09
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AzunaiRazer-X: i think i love you :)04:09
Aaron_Masoni have a Canon CanoScan N340P and XSane won't pick it up - what do I need to download and/or do to get it to work?04:09
Remillardanto9us: ahh, yeah, will try that... just occurred to me that that IS one difference... on the gentoo side it's compiled into the kernel04:10
cr1msonbrenner, I think I found it, thank you :)04:10
brennerbuild-essential04:10
Xoritorsomething keeps overwriting my resolv.conf file04:10
Xoritorwhat does that?04:10
elianyone know now to reconfigure screen resolution to a widescreen setting when installing fglrx for ati?04:10
Aaron_Masondanno, try adding -o umask=(your umask here)04:10
Xoritorand how can i turn it off04:10
cr1msonbrenner, yep, that's it04:10
dannoAaron_Mason: do you mean add -o umask=myusername?04:10
kevmanGood.04:10
dannoAaron_Mason: add that to /etc/fstab?04:10
Xoritorchattr +i for now, but thats not the RIGHT solution04:11
dannoAaron_Mason: it says "user" should I change that to my username?04:11
brennercr1mson: what was it called?04:11
Aaron_Masonno, to the mount command04:11
Razor-XAzunai: :P04:11
Aaron_Masonand not the username04:11
Azunaiok after 4 attempts and 2 reformats the X server has actualy loaded after installing a driver04:11
Aaron_Masonyour user number04:11
tyler_greetings #ubuntu!04:11
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Razor-XAzunai: all in a day's work, if only I could say the same about my own GLX :P04:11
Aaron_Masontype id to get your user ID04:11
tyler_can anyone answer a mounting problem?04:11
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AzunaiRazer-X lol ok now the big question how do i tell if it worked :) like check for 3d acceleration etc ?04:12
Razor-Xtyler_: the only wrong question is to ask about asking :P04:12
Aaron_Masonso if your userid is 1000, then add -o umask=100004:12
eli?ati04:12
Razor-XAzunai: ``glxgears''04:12
Azunaifrom root or normal?04:12
dannoAaron_Mason: my user number?04:12
Razor-Xit segfaults here, but back when I had it working, it would work fine04:12
NNYanto9us: are you still there?04:12
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Razor-XAzunai: normal's fine04:12
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Aaron_Masondanno: type id and the number after where it says 'uid=' is your user number04:12
brennerAaron_Mason: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo doesn't specifically list your scanner, but has some useful info.  i'd hit the forum/and or google when it comes back up04:12
tyler_i'm trying to mount a hard drive, though i think it's corrupted04:12
tyler_sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/04:12
tyler_tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock04:12
cr1msonbrenner, gnome-app-install04:12
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brennerah :)04:13
AzunaiRazer-X: do i just leave it running?04:13
dannoAaron_Mason: where do I find the uid info04:13
HwyXingFrogHAS ANYONE TRIED TO INSTALL DIVX CODEC??04:13
Aaron_Masontype id at the terminal04:13
brennercr1mson: i thought that was installed by default?04:13
Remillardalright, once more into the breach :)04:13
tyler_it doesn't show up on fdisk -l04:13
Remillardwish me luck04:13
pestilenceanto9us, i ran one of my (dry) lcd cleaning cloths through the slot, and ran the test again.  it passed with the 256mb stick.  doing the 512mb stick right now *crosses fingers*04:13
Razor-XAzunai: no, quit it with a C-c (Control+C in UNIX speak)04:13
anto9usNNY, yes04:13
Razor-XAzunai: and by the way, you know about tab complete?04:13
anto9uspestilence, good luck04:13
cr1msonbrenner, It was but I accidently removed it.04:13
NNYanto9us: please look at the message i sent you last with the URL....04:13
cr1msonbrenner, when I removed FireFox04:14
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brennerHwyXingFrog: no need to shout04:14
tyler_Hwy you need help with DIVX?04:14
AzunaiRazer-X no ive been using linux for about 4 horus :) and ive had to reformat 2 times04:14
HwyXingFrogsorry04:14
brennerubotu: tell HwyXingFrog about divx04:14
HwyXingFrogtyler: yes04:14
Razor-XAzunai: type in the first few letters of my name and hit TAB :)04:14
dannoAaron_Mason: where do I find user id #?04:14
AzunaiRazer -X: ok Crtl +C isnt doing anything04:14
AzunaiRazor-X, ok like this?04:14
tyler_Hwy in the ubuntuguide it has a section on codecs04:14
Razor-XAzunai: yeah :)04:14
HwyXingFrogi am very new to ubuntu and i can't watch my videos04:14
HwyXingFrogok04:14
AzunaiRazor-X, thats cool :) thanks04:14
Razor-XAzunai: don't think I type in your name every time, you 'aint that special, meh04:15
dannoin /etc/fstab do I need to change "user" to my username to have write access to floppy?04:15
Aaron_Masondanno, Open a terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal)04:15
cr1msonbrenner, You wouldn't know the Help package too do you?  The red and white lifesaver?04:15
Aaron_Masondanno, then type id04:15
Razor-XAzunai: try hitting C-c again04:15
AzunaiRazor-X, ok the ctrl +C isnt doing anything04:15
anto9usKnowerrors, openoffice should find carriage returns, you need to enable regular expressions in your search04:15
Razor-XAzunai: if not, then ``killall glxgears''04:15
dannoAaron_Mason: I see it now thank you!04:15
Azunaiah done04:15
dannoAaron_Mason: where do I add this to the line on floppy in etc/fstab?04:15
yigal-epwfor codecs http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs04:15
AzunaiRazor-X, but how do i know if it worked i just saw some wheels?04:15
cr1msonbrenner, When I removed FireFox it removed about 4-5 packages, but I can't recall what they were.  Next time I'll write something like that down when I remove a package.04:15
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HwyXingFrogthanks, I didn't see that04:16
Xoritorwhat is the dpkg command to see everything installed?04:16
Razor-XAzunai: that shows it works :P04:16
brennercr1mson: yelp04:16
anto9usNNY, manually edit04:16
brennercr1mson: yeah, i heard ff uninstall can be tricky04:16
Razor-XAzunai: on my non-working box, sometimes glxgears decides to segfault, other times it returns an error04:16
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AzunaiRazor-X, what so now i have 3d accelerations?04:16
NNYanto9us: ok04:16
Razor-XAzunai: yeahp, you're all set :)04:16
AzunaiRazor-X, is there a way to get it to show the fps?04:16
ubuntu_newbiehola everyone....04:16
dannoAaron_Mason: under which section in floppy in /etc/fstab do I enter -o umask=(your umask here) ?04:16
NNYanto9us: it refreashs every second04:16
tyler_sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/04:16
tyler_tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock04:16
brennerAzunai: glxinfo | grep rendering04:16
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tyler_anybody recognize this error?04:16
anto9usNNY, can you set it longer?04:17
Aaron_Masonok, found a SANE driver for it04:17
NNYanto9us: sure 5 seconds?04:17
cr1msonbrenner, I installed yelp, whats the command to reload my panel?04:17
Aaron_Masondanno, one sec04:17
Razor-XAzunai: take a look at the terminal when running glxgears, I think it should say ('s been a while since I've used it)04:17
Azunaibrenner, it says direct rendering: no04:17
anto9usNNY, make it 1004:17
brennerubuntu_newbie: welcome04:17
dannoAaron_Mason: okay04:17
cr1msonbrenner, it's kill something04:17
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brennercr1mson: killall gnome-panel04:17
cr1msonbrenner, yeah, that's it, hope it works04:17
brennerAzunai: then you /don't/ have 3d working04:17
NNYanto9us: done, thank you for your help btw ;)04:17
Knowerrorsanto9us: I tried that in open office, enabling regular expressions, and searched for both \n and \r04:17
AzunaiNOO!04:18
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yigal-epwdanno - the 4th section of fstab04:18
Razor-Xoh, meh04:18
Razor-Xhaha, shows how much I know :P04:18
brennerAzunai: glxgears -printfps04:18
cr1msonbrenner, thanks again, it worked04:18
mintTHIS IS THE SHIT04:18
Razor-Xbrenner: can you help me getting my own glx setup working?04:18
Aaron_Masondanno, yeah, 4th section04:18
minti like how i can just sleect gnome-art in synaptic04:18
mintand it just goes04:18
brenneror -showfps. i forget04:18
mintall dependecies04:18
tyler_anyone: what do i do with a bad superblock?04:18
brennerno, it's printfps :)04:18
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yigal-epwdanno its in the man or info cant remember of fstab04:19
anto9usKnowerrors, maybe you should be looking for spaces?04:19
_jason!glxgears04:19
ubotumethinks glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"04:19
dannoAaron_Mason: following user right? yeah I googled thank you ill try it04:19
brennermint: yeah, awesome isn't it?04:19
dannoyigal-epw: yeah google found it thanks04:19
mintyup04:19
Azunaibrenner, 2019 frames in 5.3 seconds = 381.959 FPS04:19
Azunai1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 376.605 FPS04:19
Azunai1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 375.217 FPS04:19
Azunai1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 376.037 FPS04:19
Azunai1920 frames in 5.2 seconds = 367.972 FPS04:19
minti just gota get the commands down04:19
mintfrom terimnal04:19
Azunaibrenner, does that tell you anything?04:19
brennerAzunai: what jason said. it's not a benchmark04:19
Razor-XAzunai: please don't paste in here04:19
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mintand no restart or anything04:19
tyler_anyone: i also get this sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/04:19
Razor-X!pastebin04:19
tyler_tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock04:19
ubotupastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org04:19
AzunaiRazor-X, sorry :(04:19
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brennerAzunai: the important thing was that glxinfo says you don't have DR enabled04:19
anto9usNNY, can these partitions be deleted?04:19
Knowerrorsanto9us: when I enable nonprinting characters view, I see a bunch of backward P's , what are those?04:19
tyler_anyone: i also get this: fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc104:19
tyler_Could this be a zero-length partition?04:19
Azunaibrenner, ok so how do i enable dr?04:20
NNYanto9us: yep, dont need anything on the drives04:20
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anto9usKnowerrors, those are paragraph marks04:20
yigal-epwhow to change generick usbdisk name from "991.5 MB Removable Volume" to something like "yigal's usbdisk"?04:20
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brennerAzunai: i have an ati card04:20
brennerso i can't help you with nvidia issues04:20
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anto9usNNY, delete them all04:20
NNYanto9us: right o04:20
Azunaibrenner, mines an ATI X850XT PE :)04:20
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mcrofuttAre the Ubuntu forums down?04:20
brennerAzunai: how'd you install the driver?04:20
ubuntu_newbiehey everyone - i have the king of all stupid questions.  i'm an absolute newbie to linux, but i'm a computer programmer by trade - but suddenly i feel like my dad trying to set the VCR.  So basic stuff i'm fumbling about with.  My issue right now is sharing a folder and connecting to it in XP.  I found the folder share ap, made the share, navigated to it in windows XP, and when i click on it it asks my user and password.  puttin04:21
ubuntu_newbieg just my ubuntu user and password puts a wrong domain in front automatically.  so my question is >>> what's my FULL username i should be putting in?  (please don't smite me!)04:21
dannoAaron_Mason: it still wont allow writing to it!04:21
NNYanto9us: done04:21
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fueluse connect to server04:21
dannoAaron_Mason: do I need to remove "noauto" ?04:21
Knowerrorsanto9us: so how do I replace those?  I can't find the regular expression for paragraph04:21
Azunaibrenner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 using the ati driver from the ati site?04:21
brennerubuntu_newbie: why would we smite you? :)04:21
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cheater-conradapt-get --dist-upgrade broke my system, it will no longer boot, it juse dies and suddenly reboots, anyone have ideas?04:22
regeyajust read the digg.com entry on firefox taking up a lot of memory, looked at my usage, thought, 'wow, that's a lot' and then noticed that it's being kinder than nautilus04:22
ubuntu_newbieha oh dear the smite cometh04:22
yigal-epwhey anyone catch my usbdisk question?04:22
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fuelubuntu_newbie: use connect to server04:22
anto9usNNY, now create a new 100mb ext3 partition on first drive04:22
regeyanautilus is running right now to...wait for it...draw three icons on the desktop, and it's taking up 128MB04:22
mcrofuttMine's doing that trying to install blackdown java!?!?04:22
tyler_ubuntu newbie: i think i can help04:22
ubuntu_newbiecheers04:22
regeyaFirefox requires 112MB to render boingboing.net04:22
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regeyaNautilus requires 128MB for three icons04:22
tyler_ubuntu newbie: in the ubuntuguide it talks about using guest@host for the name of the share04:22
tyler_ubuntu newbie: have you seen the guide?04:23
regeyaOH THE HUMANITY :-P04:23
dannowow I google and my problem says (solved) in a thread title but too bad the ubuntu forums are DOWN so I can't read the solution !!!!04:23
NNYanto9us: primary or logical?04:23
FunkyELFwhat is that KDE theme that is supposed to look like OS X ?04:23
ubuntu_newbieuh04:23
anto9usNNY, primary04:23
Azunaibrenner, u get that last bit mate?04:23
regeyaFunkyELF, Baghira04:23
cheater-conradNo one knows why apt-get --dist-upgrade broke my system?04:23
yigal-epwI agree danno!!!04:23
oceandeaddanno have you tried google cache?04:23
ubuntu_newbiedid i get the memo? about the TPS report?04:23
tyler_ubuntuguide.org04:23
ubuntu_newbie:)04:23
yigal-epwpisses me off04:23
tyler_haha04:23
yigal-epwubuntuforums is good04:23
brennerAzunai: yes. reading now. :)04:23
HwyXingFrogi tried the command in ubuntu guide for divx4linux but it didn't work04:23
oceandeadif it *is* cached04:23
NNYanto9us: does that look correct?04:23
yigal-epwbut always down04:23
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ubuntu_newbiejust going there now tyler thanks04:23
anto9usNNY, that's fine04:24
brennerAzunai: so you followed steps 1,2,3?04:24
tyler_np04:24
regeyaubuntuguide is way out of date, HwyXingFrog, search for restricted formats on wiki.ubuntu.com04:24
tyler_Hwy: what's the error?04:24
misfit_toy if it's not cached just ask the Bush administration, they have it all available I'm sure04:24
anto9usNNY, sorry, it's mount point should be /boot04:24
Azunaibrenner, yes up to the reboot04:24
dannoone google result says: " I have experienced the same problem with Ubuntu from Hoary to Breezy, a simple thing like saving to floppy is a task for a sysadmin"04:24
oceandeadhahaha04:24
fuelubuntu_newbie: help option works also04:24
FunkyELFregeya, do the icons at the bottom get bigger and the cursor gets closer?04:24
HwyXingFrogcouldn't find package04:24
fuelits a topic04:24
NNYanto9us: ok, done04:24
HwyXingFrogI will try the wiki.ubuntu.com04:24
ubuntu_newbiehelp option fuel?04:24
regeyaFunkyELF, what are you referring to...04:24
brennerAzunai: so you haven't rebooted?04:24
anto9usNNY, set it's bootable flag to true04:24
mcrofuttAnyone else having trouble with blackdown java?04:24
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fuelubuntu_newbie: the lifesaver icon04:25
yigal-epwno blackdown has been good although out of date04:25
tyler_i hate blackdown.. i prefer 1.5 by all means04:25
johndarkhorseubotu: tell mcrofutt about javadebs04:25
regeyaFunkyELF, are you one of those oddballs who thinks that OS X is the coolest thing EVAR?04:25
fuelits like help in windows04:25
Azunaibrenner, no i have rebooted and for the first time (after i made a alteration) x actualy loaded04:25
anto9usKnowerrors, did you look in the help file?04:25
ubuntu_newbiei mean i can navigate to the shared folder in XP in the net neighborhood.  it asks user and pass and i've tried every combo of machinename\adminuser but grr no workie04:25
NNYanto9us: k, done04:25
funkyMiNThow do i get back to the desktop from a (ctrl-alt-del)04:25
FunkyELFregeya, no... I just can't tell if that feature is there from the screen shots04:25
funkyMiNTctrl-atl-backspsace)04:25
funkyMiNTnow im just at the terminal screen04:25
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Azunaibrenner, not done anything after the reboot04:25
anto9usNNY, ok04:25
brennerAzunai: did you specify the fglrx driver in your xorg.conf file?04:25
mcrofuttI'm using Synaptic to install and it keeps crashing my system04:26
Azunaibrenner, no04:26
regeyaFunkyELF, I seem to recall that there's a proggy for KDE called KXDocker or something like that that's a good approximation of the Dock04:26
FunkyELFregeya, I actually like a really slim WM.  I use XFCE, or EvilWM04:26
misfit_toyubuntu_newbie, make sure you have a user/pass on the XP box that matches your Ubuntu id.04:26
ubuntu_newbieoh yeah i did go to this guide04:26
brennerAzunai: do so.  do you know how?04:26
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Azunaibrenner, erm no.... lol04:26
ubuntu_newbieoh right04:26
xbox_skywhick deb should you get in order to pull down w32codecs?04:26
ubuntu_newbiethanks misfit04:26
johndarkhorseubotu: tell xbox_sky about w32codecs04:26
brennerAzunai: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:26
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anto9usNNY, select Done setting up the partition04:26
philippe_so I'm trying to compile my driver, but my window doesn't recognize the command "make"04:26
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Azunaibrenner, would i be right in asuming /etc/X11/xorg.conf and editing the driver from ati to gflrx04:27
pestilenceanto9us, passed.  sweet!04:27
oceandeadanyone know how good/accurate the unofficial 5.10 starter guide that is here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu is?04:27
yigal-epwhey theres a command in terminal that grabs all the codecs does anyone know what it is04:27
regeyaI didn't like Baghira *or* KXDocker though...not nearly as stylish as the real thing, and really OS X isn't as processor-intensive as either of 'em04:27
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philippe_Even sudo make doesn't work04:27
tonyyarussoWonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.  Any idea what the issue is?04:27
brennerAzunai: exactly04:27
xbox_skyThank you johndarkhorse :)04:27
philippe_is that normal?04:27
tyler_yigal: google automatix04:27
philippe_what's the compile command?04:27
oceandeadseems pretty good to me but im no guru04:27
yigal-epwsweet, yes04:27
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yigal-epwvery nice04:27
johndarkhorsephilippe_: install build-essential04:27
johndarkhorse!automatix04:27
ubotufrom memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!04:27
regeyasomeone fix DnD in WMaker04:27
Azunaibrenner, only i use nano :)04:27
funkyMiNThow do i get back to the desktop from after Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?04:27
tyler_oh! forums are down.. :/04:27
Xoritorwhat is the cli utility to enable and disable staring of services?04:27
tyler_it works for me :p04:27
brennerAzunai: then go crazy with nano. :)04:27
regeyaaww...someone feels the need to trash arnieboy's work...04:28
codeymanNe 1 had experience with flubox??04:28
regeyafluxbox you mean?04:28
yigal-epwah well there is again as I have said http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs04:28
tyler_not i but my friend, if ye is desperate04:28
yigal-epwthis works at least04:28
anto9uspestilence, just remember, you can't get anything clean without getting something dirty :)04:28
Azunaibrenner, i prefer this gedit now :)04:28
codeymanOSx look for ubuntu04:28
brennerAzunai: or just do this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo04:28
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brennerwhoops04:28
codeymanits called flubox04:28
NNYanto9us: ok, done04:28
yigal-epwwhy not ubuntu look for OSX04:28
brennerAzunai: this: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf04:28
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anto9usNNY, how much ram do you have?04:28
Azunaibrenner, what do i change it to?04:29
brennerand bypass an editor entirely04:29
varsendaggerfluxbox is great04:29
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brennerAzunai: fglrx04:29
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codeymani dont have OSx04:29
tyler_automatix: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:iUFVOu-C3-QJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D66563+automatix&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&strip=104:29
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varsendaggerenlightnement is good too both in different ways04:29
codeymanso no ubuntu look there04:29
tonyyarussoWith regard to my question (up a page), I'm using fglrx from ati.com.  Could this be an issue?  How could I switch back to the repos one to test?04:29
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Azunaibrenner, ok i edited the driver "ati" to driver "fglrx"04:30
codeymanis there a good way to install firefox 1.5 on breezy??04:30
Azunaibrenner, is that all i do?04:30
tyler_enlightenment's menus are buggy04:30
brennerAzunai: yep04:30
codeymani did RTFM04:30
NNYanto9us: atm there is 1gb... there will be 2.5gb04:30
tyler_e17 looks nice but the performance is minimal04:30
Azunaibrenner, now reboot x or reboot machine?04:30
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brennerAzunai: i think X will do04:30
Aaron_Masonargh04:30
brennerAzunai: if not, reboot :)04:30
tyler_i reccommend kde or gnome over e17, until it goes stable04:30
Aaron_Masonwhy can't I write to my existing hard drive with ntfs?04:30
yigal-epwya i would like to know about firefox 1.5 if its an easy install04:30
Azunaibrenner, ok il should be right back if not then x didnt load :(04:30
SteilAnyone know of a program that would record bandwidth statistics? (e.g. total downloads/uploads)04:30
Azunaibrenner, c u in a min :)04:31
tyler_mozilla-firefox, should be updated04:31
brennerAzunai: good luck04:31
johndarkhorseAaron_Mason: because the operation may destroy your ntfs partition04:31
regeyatyler_, heh, it's the 'until it goes stable' part that sends me into giggly hysterics04:31
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codeymanyup04:31
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anto9usNNY, create a 900MB swap on the first drive and a 1GB swap on the second04:31
yigal-epwfirefox works at 1.0 but ya it should be updated04:31
regeyawhat's it been, 7 years now?04:31
codeymani did all the dpkg-divert04:31
kickeras I install in the bar of preferences {mouse themes} ?04:31
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codeymanbut still lots of thing break04:31
tyler_one can dream, regeya04:31
yigal-epwgeese why worry about eye-candy04:31
regeyaheh tyler_ I used to root for enlightenment.04:31
dannohow can I write to my floppy04:31
dannoit wont let me write to my floppy unless I use sudo04:32
kickeras I install in the bar of preferences {mouse themes}04:32
tyler_me too, until i had 5 terminals open, all the time..04:32
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regeyatyler_!04:32
regeyathat's alotta terminals04:32
yigal-epwdo you mean tabs or terminals04:32
anto9usNNY, get your skates on, it's passed my bedtime04:33
tyler_yeah.. borderless and resized.. but it was too much04:33
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yigal-epwhey anyone know of a safe way to have transparent terminals ?04:33
toma__is an ATI 3D Rage Pro a radeon card?04:33
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dannohow can I write to a floppy as a user it wont let me unless I use sudo and my grandparents cant do that04:33
tyler_singlet terminals, but they were slotted into my desktop so i didnt have to move them04:33
regeyawould use one on os x, too, except that iTerm bounces its icon when anything changes in any of its tabs...annoying...04:33
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ubuntu_newbiegrrr04:34
ubuntu_newbiethat no workie.04:34
tyler_ubuntu newbie whats up04:34
brennerwhat's more efficient? tabbed terminal? or one terminal running screen?04:34
Aaron_Masonjohndarkhorse, cheers04:34
tyler_automatix?04:34
Knowerrorsanto9us: yeah, they had one thing about Removing Line Breaks, didn't help04:34
NNYanto9us: working on the 900mb swap... what do i choose for the mount point?04:34
yigal-epwtabs because there easier to manage - i think04:34
ubuntu_newbieah, still having fun making the XP log into the shared folder04:34
ubuntu_newbieit's so elementry i can taste it04:34
johndarkhorsetyler_: preface the nick of the person you are talking to please onto your sentences04:34
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anto9usNNY, you don't if it's swap it's automatic04:34
tyler_johndarkhorse: thanks, i'm kinda new to irc04:35
anto9usNNY, you didn't select the partition type as swap04:35
yigal-epwno one know how to make safe transparent terminal- it would be so nice eye-candy and easy to read documents bellow the term.04:35
yigal-epwah one day04:35
NNYanto9us: there we go... is that correct?04:35
tyler_i think you can make them transparent in gnome..04:35
anto9usNNY, yes, done04:36
yigal-epwyes but you see the desktop04:36
tyler_yigal: i think ive seen that04:36
TheCutthink he means to see other docs04:36
yigal-epwnot the document bellow04:36
dannocan someone load this page because it wont load for me and I really need to read it now: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-95950.html+floppy+write+ubuntu+-usb&hl=en04:36
brenneryigal-epw: gt only does fake transparency iirc04:36
tyler_ubuntuforms are down, use google's cached pages04:36
TheCutthink someone said the forums no work?04:36
yigal-epwtheres a howto in ubuntuforums but it uses something that tells you it will crash eventually which doesn't turn me on04:36
dannotyler_: I tried but the google cache for ubuntuforums does not load =(04:36
NNYanto9us: ok, that look right?04:37
oceandeaddanno, did you wait? it will take a while but the text *should* load04:37
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yigal-epwdid ubuntuforums give any warning about being down?04:37
phiber_opticdoes anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?04:37
tyler_danno: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:GMC5tbOcrIsJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D269+floppy+write+ubuntu+usb&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&strip=104:37
ubuntu_newbietyler_ or anyone: so what is the proper nomenclature for a username logging onto a shared folder from XP machine to Ubuntu?04:38
tyler_danno i hope that helps04:38
dannooceandead: yes I've been waiting 20 minutes =(04:38
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_jasondanno: click 'text only' at the top04:38
anto9usNNY, yes, now add a partition of type Linux Raid to both drives, using all available space04:38
oceandeaddoh!04:38
phiber_opticdoes anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?04:38
yigal-epwnomenclature what do you mean04:38
jbzzdanno:  The permissions for the mounted floppy appear to allow only root to mount.04:38
johndarkhorseyou folks use a tinyurl for those things, please tyler_04:38
yigal-epwlike a SWAP partitoin04:38
tyler_johndarkhorse: soz04:38
ubuntu_newbieyigal: like the full name  eg domain\user or machinename\user or what?04:38
jbzzdanno:  I mean allow only root to 'write'04:39
yigal-epwoh what ever you mounted it as04:39
dannojbzz: thanks how can I change the permissions for the mounted floppy so I can have a user write to it like a normal linux distribution does?04:39
yigal-epwthat is the partition then just cde04:39
yigal-epwcd04:39
NNYanto9us: "physical volume for raid"?04:39
yigal-epwto it04:39
dannoi think it's because of the sudo thing that it's not working right04:39
yigal-epw? like /windows/ for me04:39
anto9usNNY, yes04:39
yigal-epwthen cd /windows thats it?04:39
dannotyler_: thanks but it came up with a blank google cache page04:40
jbzzdanno:  I have not been fooling with the floppy but I can look into it.  I normally make my own mount point and set my own permissions for the floppy.04:40
phiber_opticdoes anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?04:40
ubuntu_newbieyigal : yeah i'm just trying to browse a folder shared in UBUNTU but from a winxp machine.  when i click the folder it asks my username and pass.... can't seem to make it understand04:40
tyler_ubuntu newbie: http://tinyurl.com/593ze04:40
dannojbzz: I would be forever appreciative if you could help me solve this04:40
ubuntu_newbietyler_ thanks checking that out04:40
yigal-epwoh sorry never tried it from that side04:40
jbzzdanno:  I will nose around for a few minutes and get back to you.04:41
dannojbzz: my grandparents have perched on my back and are jeering me with "WELL IT WORKS IN WINDOWS!"04:41
NNYanto9us: ok, that look all good?04:41
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dannojbzz: thank you I will gladly wait. =)04:41
tyler_danoo: try this http://tinyurl.com/7novm04:41
anto9usNNY, now configure software raid, you want speed or data integrity?04:41
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NNYanto9us: raid 0... speed04:41
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anto9usNNY, go for it04:42
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Azunaibrenner, well that was a screw up again lol but at least i learnt how to get X server to load backup04:42
NNYanto9us: hit yes?04:42
anto9usNNY, yes04:42
brennerAzunai: so it borked on you?04:42
NNYanto9us: ok, done04:42
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phiber_opticdoes anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?04:42
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Azunaibrenner, if i change the xorg.conf from "ati" x server just doesnt load :(04:43
anto9usNNY, create MD04:43
yigal-epwsorry phiber_optic it seems that none of us do04:43
fenterbugAre the web forums down for maintenance or something? I time out when trying to get to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/04:43
Azunaibrenner,  is that because my graphics card is too new and linux doesnt support it?04:43
brennerAzunai: then my guess is something has gone wrong with the driver install04:43
phiber_optic:(04:43
yigal-epwya damn web forums04:43
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yigal-epwthey are so good when theyre up04:43
Aaron_Masondamnit, I can't get my scanner working with ubuntu... it needs libieee1284 and the damn thing won't compile04:43
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gnudreamerin my lshw output my tv capture card reads as *unclaimed04:44
anto9usNNY, add both partitions to it04:44
Azunaibrenner, ok what does ur expertise suggest?04:44
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brennerAzunai: the ati.com driver /should/ support it04:44
anto9usNNY, use space bar to select them04:44
NNYanto9us: finish?04:44
anto9usNNY, yes04:44
Azunaibrenner, i downloaded the 32mb driver from http://www,ati.com04:44
fenterbugso bad web forums is... not uncommon. I'm guessing that no one can say when they'll be up again?04:44
brennerAzunai: the run file right?04:44
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yigal-epwfenterbug - i wish i knew04:45
yigal-epwthen again when they're up who knows how long for04:45
fenterbugtks, yigal-epw... I'll check back in a day or two.04:45
Azunaibrenner, the big 32mb one at the top above the "X" versions?04:45
NNYanto9us: k04:45
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anto9usNNY, you need to set the mount point for the raid to be /04:45
MCskill-itfenterbug: yigal-epw , any idea of what happened to the forums?04:45
brennerAzunai: one sec (i'm on dialup)04:46
yigal-epwman i wish i did04:46
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NNYanto9us: how do i do that?04:46
Azunaibrenner, the ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run04:46
anto9usNNY, sorry, select the partition beneath the raid and add ext3 partition to it04:46
yigal-epwMCskill-it do you know if they have public messages saying when they plan to be down?04:46
WitigonenHey all... I just migrated from Fedora and kept my home directory the same.  Now, of course, I can't log in to Gnome - my sessions lasts less than 5 seconds and it throws me back to GDM.  How can I remedy this?04:46
Azunaibrenner, Dialup man :( im on 10MB :P04:46
brennerAzunai: yeah, that's the one04:47
WitigonenAlso, my virtual terminals aren't showing about five lines.. they're cut off at the bottom.  Dell Inspiron 1000.04:47
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NNYanto9us: that one there?04:47
Aaron_Masondoes anybody know where the lib would be in the package manager?04:47
anto9usNNY, select the 162GB line04:47
yigal-epwsorry Witgonen sounds pretty bad04:47
Azunaibrenner, then i dont understand why it didnt work :S my card must be supported otherwise Xserver wouldnt load on ubuntu install would it?04:47
phiber_optichow do i uninstall limewire?04:47
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Aaron_Masonnm, found it04:48
yigal-epwhow did you get phiber_optic04:48
Aaron_Masonsearch is your friend04:48
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yigal-epwapt-get synaptic?04:48
phiber_opticdownloaded from the page and installed04:48
brennerAzunai: right.  do you have the fglrx module loaded?04:48
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yigal-epwcould be a problem04:48
phiber_opticnopp04:48
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Azunaibrenner, how do i check?04:48
phiber_opticthere isnt in apt-get04:48
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anto9usNNY, select uses as /04:48
brennerAzunai: lsmod | grep fglrx04:49
yigal-epwlimewire sounds more like a lemon - bad jk sorry04:49
MCskill-itthe new ati driver now supports openGL 2.0, I wonder what applications use this?04:49
Aaron_Masoncould someone make it clear that when looking for a package in the SPM, Search is your friend?04:49
jbzzdanno:  I am going to experimant on my floppy drive for a few minutes.04:49
WitigonenIs there a command line way to switch what desktop you're using in Ubuntu akin to Fedora's 'switchdesk'?04:49
dannojbzz: thanks, I look forward to your findings!! =)04:49
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phiber_optichow do I delete something from my applications -> internet folder?04:49
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MCskill-itWitigonen: I noticed that dapper does04:49
Azunaibrenner, didnt say anything just droped a line04:49
NNYanto9us: confused04:50
brennerAzunai: aha04:50
tonyyarussoWith regard to my question (up a page), I'm using fglrx from ati.com.  Could this be an issue?  How could I switch back to the repos one to test?04:50
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metalsandHow do I run commands while using nano?04:50
anto9usNNY, ext304:50
brennerAzunai: echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules04:50
SEJeffphiber_optic, Are you using breezy?04:50
yigal-epwapplication menu editor04:50
tonyyarussoWonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.  Any idea what the issue is?04:50
Azunaibrenner, sounds like ur on to something :)04:50
phiber_opticyes04:50
WitigonenMCskill-it: but not Breezy?  Darn.04:50
tonyyarussoSorry, those should be reversed.04:50
yigal-epwin applications->system tools phiber04:50
Azunaibrenner, says fglrx04:50
metalsandHow do I run commands while using nano? Like save, exit, ect04:50
slavikubuntu drake will come with gnome 2.14?04:50
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brennerAzunai: means it's loaded. now restart04:50
brennerAzunai: after you change back to fglrx of course04:51
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slavikalso, if I need to su to root, what is the default root password?04:51
anto9usNNY, mount point /04:51
Azunaibrenner, should i not change the xorg.conf?04:51
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MCskill-itWitigonen: :( yah not in breezy that I know of, but only  a little over 2 months till dapper duck04:51
brennerAzunai: yes, back to fglrx04:51
Witigonenmetalsand: ctrl-what it says at the bottom.04:51
Azunaibrenner, lol u may be on dialiup but u shure can type :)04:51
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anto9usNNY, all done04:51
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Aaron_MasonDAMNIT... it still won't pick it up04:51
brennerAzunai: the wiki has "When you install from ati.com drivers or the breezy-seveas repository, you still need to change xorg.conf per the instructions above." right below the 1,2,3 steps04:51
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brennerAzunai: they should have put that in bold or something04:51
darkraiderdoes ubuntu support ndiswrapper04:51
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Witigonendarkraider: yes.04:52
NNYanto9us: yes?04:52
metalsandWitigonen: Thanks04:52
slavikdarkraider: it comes 'preinstalled'04:52
MCskill-itdarkraider: yes, just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils04:52
brennerAzunai: basically, you aren't loading the module, which the steps at the start of the page go through04:52
anto9usNNY, did it say the mount point was / on the raid, I can't read the blue04:52
Azunaibrenner, so if there installed why arnt they loading?04:52
slavikthere is even an ndiswrapper configure utility that comes with ubuntu, right?04:52
Aaron_Masondamnit damnit damnit04:52
Azunaibrenner, ok i should reboot now right?04:52
brennerAzunai: because you didn't tell it to load at bootup04:52
brennerAzunai: if you've done the 2 steps yes04:52
anto9usNNY, go ahead anyway04:52
Aaron_Masonnow it can't open the parallel port04:53
Azunaibrenner, man i miss windows simplicity but linux is so much cooler :)04:53
Azunaibrenner, wish me luck man04:53
NNYanto9us: does that look right?04:53
MCskill-itslavik: I have used the utility but it's easier to just to do it from command line04:53
brennerAzunai: good luck :)04:53
Azunaibrenner, thanks lol c u in a sec hopefully04:53
Aaron_Masonah04:53
Aaron_Masonif I sudo it, it works04:53
anto9usNNY, it should say / next to the ext3 on the raid04:53
slavikMCskill-it: will keep that in mind04:53
NNYanto9us: like that?04:54
anto9usNNY, that's it, done04:54
yigal-epwanyone know how to tweak laptop with winmodem so that it runs as well as windows?04:54
MCskill-itslavik: all you have to do it    sudo ndiswrapper -i /path to inf file/file.inf04:54
anto9usNNY, yes04:54
yigal-epwusing sl-modem-daemon/source04:54
anto9usNNY, that should now install ok04:54
hyphenateddoes anyone here use ifplugd on their ubuntu installation?04:55
Aaron_Masonw00t, I can scan!04:55
bimberiubotu tell yigal-epw about smartlink04:55
yigal-epwi use wvdial stupid mode =0 and check carrier =no but it doesn't stay connected like xp04:55
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Aaron_Masonw00t!04:55
Aaron_Masonthanks all04:56
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slavikMCskill-it: but the inf file has to be proper04:56
NNYanto9us: awesome! thank you so much04:56
anto9usI'm off to bed now, good luck NNY and remember to make backups of your important data04:56
brenneryigal-epw: so it's cutting off?  do you get any erros in the log?04:57
anto9usNNY, some people would swear at me advising you on raid 0 ;)04:57
slavikMCskill-it: is 64bit driver support good enough to try?04:57
anto9usNNY, don't worry, it's no less reliable than having one drive, I use raid 004:57
NNYanto9us: yeah... this is going to be replacing our game/web/mysql server in a colo....04:57
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anto9usNNY, I swear by zope and postgresql04:58
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NNYanto9us: i can always put in a IDE drive and have it back everything up from the raid04:58
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vultairecan someone help me out with my alsa config?  I can't seem to mute my microphone04:58
heqqhello every one!who can answer my question about the new defect system of ubuntu?04:58
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NNYanto9us: well thank you for all your help mate! i have been trying to figure this out all day!04:58
anto9usNNY, best is to have an offsite backup04:58
Azunaibrenner, well unless that echo command was suppost to be done with sudo echo it aint worked :(04:58
NNYanto9us: *nodz*04:58
anto9usNNY, well now you can show your mates :)04:59
tonyyarussoHow can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?04:59
yigal-epwsorry brenner main problem is that wvdial will stay connected but there won't be any bandwidth I won't be able to serf sometimes 10 min. sometimes 50 min. but it always happens04:59
brennerAzunai: is fglrx in /etc/modules04:59
NNYanto9us: hehe, thank man, have a good rest04:59
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Azunaibrenner, how i check?04:59
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brenneractually, i don't even have it in there04:59
brennerAzunai: less /etc/modules04:59
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brennerAzunai: it might not be the problem...05:00
benguinhey, is this where i ask questions about Dapper?:)05:00
CanYouHelpMePlzbenguin: yes.05:00
benguinthanks, can anyone tell me if they had success installing qt4-dev packages?05:00
Azunaibrenner, it says lp,mousedev.psmouse,fglrx then lots of ~ then end05:00
brenneryigal-epw: does the driver set limitations? e.g. like conexant's one limiting bandwidth unless you purchase it?05:01
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brennerAzunai: i'm not sure...i'm out of ideas. :-/05:01
yigal-epwI am not sure, and I don't think so smartlink just has a little copyright in it so it is left to who ever wants it to compile it05:01
brennerbesides hitting the forum when it comes back up05:01
Azunaibrenner, :( ah man05:01
Azunaibrenner, yeh in 2 weeks time :(05:02
brenneror trying a reinstall05:02
Azunaibrenner, ive reinstalled 3 times now i aint gunna do it again :(05:02
Azunaibrenner, could it be a compatability issue?05:02
OsisNie^2Hello. Admittedly I know absolutely nothing about linux, but I was curious about it and today downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 live cd. I burned it and rebooted. It went through some simple config, but eventually seemed to have froze after a sort of splash screen with a loading bar. All that was on the frozen screen was a non blinking underscore. I tried installing it on a P3 930 mhz with 128mb of RAM. The installed OS is XP Home. Any ideas wh05:02
Azunaibrenner, like my card is too new for unbuntu to detect05:02
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brenneri kind of doubt it.05:03
Azunaibrenner, what makes u doubt it?05:03
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brennerb/c the ati.com driver is fairly recent isn't it?05:03
ashehello05:03
rjordanOsisNie^2, did you see what it was doing when it froze? what was on the splash screen?05:04
brennerAzunai: don't give up.  i'd keep asking back in here. a lot of people are smarter than me05:04
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OsisNie^2it seemed to be loading things.. the only thing I specifically noticed was that it failed to set the time05:04
rjordanAzunai, What's the trouble?05:04
ashehow do you compile programs using the live cd?05:04
rjordanOsisNie^2, it probably couldn't reach ntp.ubuntulinux.org to set the time so that's not fatal...05:05
cafuegoashe: With a compiler, like normal;. install one first.05:05
brennerrjordan: he can't get DR working05:05
OsisNie^2Right, since I use a wireless card.. not the onboard ethernet05:05
ashehello cafuego05:05
rjordanbrenner, with fglrx? join the club...05:05
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Azunairjordan, well ive just installed the ATI graphics card driver05:05
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asheget errors with apt-get install build-essential05:05
brennerrjordan: you too?05:05
cafuegoashe: It's possible the ramdisk is filling up, yes.05:06
Azunairjordan, and every time i reboot after changing the xorg.conf from ati xserver wont load05:06
ashehow to check05:06
cafuegoashe: 'df'05:06
ashecafuego: not full05:06
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rjordanAzunai, did you 'modprobe -v fglrx' ?05:06
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Azunairjordan, dont think so the readme never said to05:07
cafuegoashe: can you paste the error to the pastebin?05:07
Azunairj i can try if u think it will help?05:07
Azunairjordan, i can try if it will help05:07
rjordanAzunai, which howto? where?05:07
ashecafuego:ubuntu live on wireless laptop05:07
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cafuegoashe: can you paste the error to the pastebin?05:07
slavikdoes the ati driver actually increase performance?05:08
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ashetrying to compile wireless utilities to get to 'net.05:08
Azunairjordan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 is the how to i followed doing the driver from the ati site?05:08
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cafuegoashe: They come with the system, why are you compiling them?05:08
ejofeewhy does lilo say "Fatal: /boot/message is too big (> 65535 bytes)"? and why doesn't it say the same in mandriva?05:08
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ashefirst try with ubuntu. needed to do that with knoppix-std.05:09
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cafuegoashe: Ubuntu comes with wireless-utils and wpasupplicant. No compiling required.05:09
asheapt-get error:Couldn't stat source package list ..... etc.05:09
rjordanAzunai, if you do 'lsmod' does fglrx show up in there?05:09
luisitohello05:09
cafuegoashe: Yes, apt-get uses the network, eh?05:10
ashecan't get to packages.05:10
ubuntugeekForums will be backup 1/23/2006 around 10am EST.. just a heads up, we needed to do some emergency work.05:10
Azunairjordan, let me check05:10
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galgozah, I was wondering about the forums05:10
galgozI thought it was me05:10
galgozthey have been unavailable to me off and on for days now05:10
asheubuntu says network not needed to "apt-get install build-essential"05:10
ubuntugeekyeah we finally tracked the issue down today..05:10
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Azunairjordan, not that i can see?05:10
cafuegoubuntugeek: Eh, 10am EST is 15 hours ago.05:10
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cafuegos/15/5/05:11
galgozubuntugeek: ah, good to hear05:11
ubuntugeek1/23/2006 10am EST05:11
rjordanAzunai, try 'sudo modprobe -v fglrx' and tell me what it says.05:11
ubuntugeektomorrow05:11
nicholasAnyone here keeping up with the Dapper updates?05:11
gnudreamerok im getting really fruistrated I am attempting to install ideo4linux...all i want is to install the bttv drivers the how to is trying to get me to recompile my kernel is this necessary?05:11
nicholas- are the Dapper repos down?05:11
ubuntugeekthats my eta goal :) gotta get back to configuring.. later ..05:11
cafuegoubuntugeek: There is more than one EST.05:11
luisitoI have a question... (when not?). Which things should I backup if I want to make a clean install but have all the things as they are now?05:11
galgozI have a question since the forums are unavilable05:11
rjordannicholas, I'm d/ling the flight3 iso right now.05:11
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asheubuntuforum up yet?05:11
nicholastanks rjordan.05:11
galgozhow hard is it to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?05:11
cafuegogalgoz: It's one command.05:12
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galgozcafuego: what is that?05:12
dannojbzz: hi05:12
cafuegogalgoz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:12
jbzzdanno:  Hello.05:12
ashedo I need network to use apt-get?05:12
cafuegoashe: yes05:12
Azunairjordan, insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko05:12
AzunaiFATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device05:12
Azunai is exactly what it says sorry for the paste05:12
dannojbzz: could you join #linuxhelp sethk and a few people are discussing this issue05:12
galgozcafuego: silly question but will my gnome apps like gaim and gnomebaker still work in kubunut?05:12
ashecan't use ubuntu with wireless laptop?05:12
cafuegogalgoz: yep05:13
nicholasashe sure you can.05:13
dannojbzz: it seems the only way to write to a floppy is to use sudo at the command line or gksudo konqueror05:13
cafuegoashe: Yes, you can... depending on the wireless controller.05:13
rjordanAzunai, What graphics card do you have? It seems unsupported by the fglrx module.05:13
galgozcafuego: sweet, and do I switch back and forth at the loggin or what?05:13
luisitoI have a question... (when not?). Which things should I backup if I want to make a clean install but have all the things as they are now?05:13
cafuegoashe: But you WILL need to configure it.05:13
ashenicholas: how?05:13
cafuegogalgoz: if you so desire, yes :-)05:13
dannojbzz: i haven't found any other way for a normal user on ubuntu to write to a floppy, this seems to be an issue with ubuntu I may have to take it to the mailing list to bring attention to it05:13
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nicholasashe depends on what laptop you're using.05:13
Azunairjordan,  SaphireTech ATI X850XT PE AIW (the best card ati have to offer basicaly) :D05:13
galgozcafuego: sweet again, I was reading how Linux T. said everyone should use KDE and I figured I would check it out05:14
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gnudreameralright...is anyone not to overwhelmed with questions to lend a hand here?05:14
ashenicholas:toshiba satellite05:14
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jbzzdanno:  I will stay and experiment.  No.  There are other ways.  Let me spend more time experimenting.  I have my normal user writing to it but want to do more experiments.05:14
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ashecafuego: how to configure wireless if I can't get to the packages?05:14
nicholasashe ... and it depends what kind of wifi adapter you have. On the ubuntu site there is a list of adapters that are supported.05:14
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dannojbzz: really? how were you able to get your normal user to write to it without sudo or gksudo?05:14
galgozcafuego: thanks for the quick answers05:14
cafuegogalgoz: Just coz Linus says so doesn't mean KDE is at all nice.05:14
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nicholasashe some adpaters just need the right drivers. Some need ndiswrapper.05:15
galgozcafuego: yeah, but figured I would check it out05:15
Azunairjordan, any ideas?05:15
cafuegoashe: The packages are installed already.05:15
dannojbzz: this is the only problem I need to solve right now and if you're able to write to a floppy without sudo or gksudo app i'd love to hear your findings!05:15
cafuegoashe: What wireless controller do you have?05:15
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nicholasDoes anyone know if the repos are down as well?!?!?05:15
jbzzdanno:  Well, one experiment it to change the permissions on /media/floppy0   to  777    That works.  But I want to be able to boot to that state of permissions.05:16
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cafuegonicholas: all the repos I use are fine.05:16
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HowiWhat happened to the forum?05:16
phiber_opticdoes anyone know why limewire would freeze me computer?05:16
rjordanAzunai, I think the card is too new for that driver. Besides you may want gatos.sf.net for tv out capability since it's an AIW.05:16
cafuego!topic05:16
asheusing the rtl8180 driver05:16
phiber_opticIs there another good program like limewire?05:16
cafuegoHowi: Read the topic.05:16
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rjordanphiber_optic, because it's crap...05:16
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dannojbzz: wow so that wont survive a reboot?05:16
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steve_laptophello all05:16
rjordanph8, gtk-gnutella05:16
nicholasthx cafuego. It must be my setup then.05:16
Azunairjordan, ive been using linux for about 3hours please try and keep it as simple as you can :)05:16
cafuegoashe: Ok. That one is not supported by default, yet.05:16
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phiber_opticrjordan apt-get gtk-nutella?05:16
steve_laptopanyone here get nvidia working in 6.0405:17
jbzzdanno:  Also   /media/floppy    (which is a link to  /media/floppy0      )   needs to have permissions of 777.05:17
ashecafuego:I have worked with this extensively and need only compile it for ubuntu05:17
rjordanphiber_optic, I'm sure I don't know. It's in there somewhere.05:17
jbzzdanno:  Will it survive a reboot?   That is the question.05:17
phiber_opticor where can I downloaed from?05:17
dannojbzz: but why would you want it executable05:17
englaI wonder why all lib*-dev packages are so large05:17
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johnnybezakengla: probably because they have a lot of stuff only required by devs, features that users don't need05:18
Azunairjordan, ok so how do i get my card to have 3d support etc so i can play some games :-)05:18
ashecafuego: but I should be able to use apt-get with 'net connectivity?05:18
englashouldn't they be just headers?05:18
madcapanyone care to explain what I need to get xine/mplayer to play WMV3 files? is there a particular codec?05:18
jbzzdanno:  Well to use the 'ls' command on a directory it must be executable.05:18
galgozthis question doesn't need to be answered as it is just curiosity but. .. why is there a seperate install cd for kubuntu if you can add it by simply typing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:18
englaor soemthing...05:18
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dannojbzz: what about making it permissions 666 would you have to create a script for this?05:18
Azunairjordan, i really dont care about the tvout etc i just wanna be able to play stuff in cedega :(05:18
englagalgoz: it's nice to have a cd when you have a slow connection05:18
englagalgoz: or are far away from any connection at all05:19
cafuegoashe: Well, then I won't be able to help until you can actually somehow share the error message you get when you want to install build-essential.05:19
Doomhammersomeone help me please, the sound in quake4 is screwed up - i can hear it, but it's ... distorted -- i'm thinking this is the issue but i don't know how to fix it, see output from quake4: http://pastebin.com/51857105:19
galgozengla: fair enough :)05:19
tonyyarussoHow can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?05:19
jbzzdanno:  Same situation.  We want control of the situation so we must understand what works.05:19
dannojbzz: I'm going to bite the floppy disc soon if I can't get the user to write to it05:19
Dr_Willishmmm05:19
ashecafuego:"Couldn't stat source package list"05:19
Azunaiive just installed ubuntu i can switch from gnome? to KDE by apt-get install kubuntu?05:19
Dr_Willisdont ya want the floppy mounted with the 'user' options?05:19
cafuegoashe: 'sudo apt-get update'05:19
jbzzdanno:  For a quick fix you can set the permissions now for those two direcories to 777 and that should work.  A quick fix.05:19
phiber_opticwhere can I download gtk-gnutella?05:20
gnudreamerhow do i patch my kernel ?05:20
ashecafuego:same error05:20
dannojbzz: thanks I like the help thank you05:20
rjordanAzunai, the basic ati driver still does direct rendering AFAIK. It just does so using the much slower MesaGL libraries.05:20
bimberiAzunai: kubuntu-desktop05:20
johndarkhorseAzunai: it's 'kubuntu-desktop' that you want to install05:20
Azunaithx05:20
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jbzzdanno:   so as root:      chmod  777  /media/floppy0                    and                  chmod  777  /media/floppy                     that shoulkd work05:20
rjordanAzunai, What kind of processor do you have?05:21
Azunairjordan, im a perfomance geek :) i need high fps man isnt there a specific ubuntu driver that i could install05:21
ashecafuego:"Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'"05:21
phiber_opticwhere can I download gtk-gnutella?05:21
jbzzdanno:   But again, I want to eventually have a bulletproof solution so I will keep working on it.05:21
Azunairjordan, on this box an amd althonxp 3200+ i05:21
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rjordanphiber_optic, **cking google it already.05:21
dannojbzz: why 777 and not 666?05:21
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bimberiphiber_optic: it's in the universe repository05:21
brennerphiber_optic: or eable universe05:21
rjordanAzunai, just wondering, dri is broken on amd64. found that out the hard way.05:22
brenner*enable05:22
jbzzdanno:   To use the  'ls -l'   or  'ls'  commands on a directory you need execute permission.05:22
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gnudreamermaybe ubuntu can put the bttv driver right into the next release!05:22
bimberiubotu: tell phiber_optic about universe05:22
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phiber_opticbut the one I install in the universe it says its too old05:22
Azunairjordan, thats y my amd athlonxp 64-bit FX-57 is running winxp :)05:22
draconiuswhen I play movies, or drag windows around or anything like that, my sound gets horribly crackly -- anybody have an idea?05:22
jbzzdanno:   And we are mounting at a share point (directory).05:22
gnudreamerANYONE here use bttv?05:22
gnudreameror vL05:22
rjordanAzunai, what kind of graphics card in that one?05:22
ramblingturtlehello, I am looking for away to reinstall the grub from ubuntu because right now I am using what came with Suse 10 and I want to remove it but be able to choose what kernel I want to boot from with grub any ideas would be  appreciated05:22
gnudreamerV4L05:22
asheanybody able to use apt-get without network connectivity?05:22
Azunairjordan, the same but it has 3gig of Kingston hyper-x ram ddr 500 :)05:23
rjordanAzunai, cause I have it working now. it just requires a workaround.05:23
Dasnipa`ashe thats simple... remove online sources, add cdrom sources05:23
tonyyarussoramblingturtle, grub-install, iirc.05:23
Dasnipa`from the apt config file05:23
jbzzdanno:   There are many levels of questions here.  That is why I must take things one at a time.05:23
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Azunairjordan, they both have the same card :(05:23
MrProper_has anyone ever noticed that amarok always dies in the ass05:23
dannojbzz: true, good luck with your experiements, I'm going to set my grandparents up with a shortcut to gksudo konqueror so they can write to floppy, I can't continue this any longer because it's testing the limits of my sanity for something which should be simple.05:24
gnudreamermrproper yes amarok always freezes05:24
asheDasnipa:how to remove online sources and add cdrom sources?05:24
cafuegoMrProper_: It's a KDE app, it's designed that way.05:24
dannojbzz: if you find a solution, please post to ubuntu forums when it returns05:24
Azunairjordan, it doesnt matter that im downloading Kubuntu does it?05:24
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rjordanAzunai, no.05:24
Azunaii want kde not really a gnome fan :)05:24
Azunairjordan, my download speed is ausome lol05:24
jbzzdanno:  OK.  I will find the best approach to this.05:24
asheDasnipa:can't find cdrom sources.05:24
gnudreamerANYONE here use bttv?05:24
brennerramblingturtle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows05:24
Dasnipa`ashe, man apt-config05:25
dannojbzz: please post to ubuntu forums with the solution when you master this so others can benefit from your wisdom =)05:25
Azunai1197kb/s :P05:25
rjordanAzunai, I'm getting 600kB/s on the dapper iso right now :)05:25
asheDasnipa:doing that now.05:25
dannojbzz: from my googling it looks like this is a common issue with little solution outside a gksudo app or sudo at command line way out05:25
syntax13is there anyone who can help me with problems compiling glfw programs?05:25
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jbzzdanno:   Remember doing the chmod commands I mentioned could solve your problem right away.05:25
Azunairjordan, im downloading kubuntu right now at 1249kbs :P05:25
MrProper_cafuego, lol, its a shame because amarok is such a nice player05:26
rjordanAzunai, OMFG!!!05:26
Azunairjordan, hehe 10MB cable hookup mate :)05:26
dannojbzz: thanks I could try that but I'm taking a flight out of here in the morning and my grandparents will be rebooting it after I leave05:26
elihello everyone, anyone know the a solution to fglrx in configuring resolution?05:26
TheBeastIs it possible to install ubuntu using the 5.10 installation cd and then apt-get upgrade or something? do I have to add some extra/new repositories or what?05:26
dannojbzz: so I'd need to have it survive a reboot, does it?05:26
Azunairjordan, but i get an extra 200-400 kbs in linux more than i do in linux05:26
rjordanerr...05:26
tonyyarussoTheBeast, 5.10 is the current.05:26
galgozheheh05:26
brennereli: what's the problem exactly?05:26
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Azunairjordan, as im a big gamer i really need to use linux as the networking technolagy is far more stable and the pings are better :P05:27
jbzzdanno:  I need to experiment with it!   Can't give you an answer right this minute.05:27
TheBeasttonyyarusso some update was released a few days ago05:27
dannojbzz: okay bye05:27
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tonyyarussoTheBeast, However, you can use any CD and upgrade online.05:27
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phiber_optichow do I know if im connected in gtk gnutella?05:27
TheBeastincluding gnome 2.13.4 or something05:27
tonyyarussoTheBeast, Dapper Flight 3, but that is not for general use.05:27
Azunairjordan, i just took a screenshot of it lol05:27
carterquestion: what file would i modify to have a script or program run after a user logs in and starts gnome?05:27
tonyyarusso!tell TheBeast about dapper05:27
TheBeastis it some sort of release candidate?05:27
cafuegocarter: Easiest is to add it in Prefernces -> Sessions05:27
Azunairjordan, the download speed i mean :) i so have to post that on a few gaming forums :D05:27
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rjordanAzunai, nice :)05:28
TheBeastoh yea05:28
TheBeast:D05:28
tonyyarussoTheBeast, Yeah, it's a preview, and developer-types run it and help sort out the bugs.05:28
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phiber_opticrjordan how do i know if my gtk gnutella is running?05:28
Azunairjordan, il send it ya if u wanna see :P05:28
TheBeasttonyyarusso it'd be nice to install it and squash some bugs out of it05:28
rjordannah, I believe you ;)05:29
tonyyarussoTheBeast, Hey, if you're into that, be my guest.  I'm not about to try it though.05:29
Azunaithat im definatly posting :)05:29
rjordanphiber_optic, is there a window on your screen that says 'gtk-gnutella'?05:29
phiber_opticyeah I started05:29
phiber_opticit05:29
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TheBeasttonyyarusso that's the fun about linux in my opinion05:29
Azunailol how big is kubuntu?05:29
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luisitoguy help here, please05:29
luisitoguys help here, please05:29
rjordanwith?05:29
galgozazunai, fairly big, mine is still downloading05:29
phiber_opticbut I click on sear and nothing searches :(05:30
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galgozazunai, I am at get 4305:30
Azunaigalgoz, lol mines done05:30
tonyyarussoTheBeast, Ah.  Well then go for it.  I prefer mine to work at the moment, but I can see where you're coming from.05:30
Azunaigalgoz, took about 2 mins lol05:30
luisitoI have ubuntu installed in my drive05:30
Azunaiim on the config screen now05:30
elibrenner : i just installed the ubuntu fglrx driver and the 3d works but now the resolution is not right05:30
Dasnipa`Azunai, kubuntu is the size of kde + overhead05:30
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elibrenner : i have a widescreen 1280 by 80005:30
galgozazunai, hehe, I am using azureus right now too,05:30
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gnudreameram i on ignore ?05:30
luisitoand I want to install windows now sharing that drive, how can I do that?05:30
Dasnipa`yes gnudreamer05:30
Azunaigalgoz, whats asureus?05:30
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galgozazunai, a bittorrent client05:31
tonyyarussorjordan, What's RDP?05:31
rjordanali_, did you run the fglrxconfig?05:31
TheBeasttonyyarusso it's nice to have a working/usable environment but at the same time I think every linux user should actually contribute somehow:)05:31
gnudreamerim really trying to do this on my own but im stuck05:31
steve_laptopis the forum down?05:31
Azunaiits taking longer to install than it did to download :S05:31
cafuegorjordan: Why would you use that inefficient POS protocol if you didn't have to?05:31
ramblingturtlebrenner: thank you that is exactly what I was looking for05:31
galgozazunai, so I am downlaoding other stuff as well, my connection is 6 down05:31
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tonyyarussoTheBeast, A good idea.  So far answering the questions I can is mine, b/c I know nothing about programming / development.05:31
Azunaigalgoz, u should just use apt-get i was getting 1200kbs ? so why use bitorent?05:32
galgozazunai, although I am luckily dling at about 6.5 typically05:32
gnudreamerI am following steps to allow my tv card to work...I simply can't get the bttv tar installed05:32
vultaireCan anyone help me with this?  My microphone is playing back on my speakers, and I can't seem to mute it aside from totally muting it05:32
rjordantonyyarusso, it's what windows uses for remote desktop, it's much better then vnc since it only sends the primitive window drawing info instead of pictures of the desktop itself.05:32
phiber_opticrjordan I cannot search anything :(05:32
TheBeasttonyyarusso ;-)05:32
Azunaigalgoz, 6mb down nice :)05:32
galgozazunai, I am using apt get, just using some of my bandwidth on azureus dlwonloading other stuff05:32
tonyyarussorjordan, Hmm.05:32
jbzzdanno:  Are you still there?05:32
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Azunaigalgoz, ahhh i get ya05:32
cafuegorjordan: But rdesktop supports RDP just fine05:32
luisitohow do I install windows after ubuntu?05:32
johnnybezakhe guys whats a lightweight qt text editor?05:32
Azunaigalgoz, sorry man im a complete noob to linux :)05:32
elianyone know how to make a fglrx driver give the right resolution? i have a widescreen, but he program is running on defualt05:33
johnnybezakluisito: put in your windows cd.05:33
galgozazunai, k, I am new too05:33
tonyyarussovultaire, Try alsamixer, and you can mute the microphone input separately.05:33
anarkissedhello, new ubuntu user here05:33
eliwhen ubuntu previously had the right resolution05:33
Azunaiok it says in console setting up Kubuntu? yet nothing is happening?05:33
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johnnybezakanarkissed: hi :)05:33
anarkissedhi johnnybezak05:33
Azunaihello anarkissed05:33
galgozanarkissed: hello05:33
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tonyyarussoanarkissed, Welcome.05:33
anarkissedhello everyone else too lol05:33
regeyagreetings new ubuntu user and congratulations05:33
Azunaianarkissed, hello :)05:33
phiber_opticcan someone help me with gtk gnutella?05:33
vultairetonyyarusso: if I run alsamixer, hit tab to go to capture, and look at the Mic column, it's blacked out05:33
luisitojohnnybezak, the thing is I don't want to delete ubuntu.05:33
regeya!tell anarkissed about ask05:34
Azunairegeya, are you rather knowlegable on linux?05:34
anarkissedwell after 8 years it's the first 'nix sys to run X and connect to the net05:34
regeyanot to be rude.05:34
vultaireerm... wait05:34
rjordancafuego, it can connect to windows boxen but not send its own desktop elsewhere right? I seem to remember concluding that last time I checked.05:34
deadcat66hi all, i am haivng trouble with the cmd 'sudo dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda05:34
deadcat66'   all I get is 0+0 in and out.  any ideas?05:34
galgozall: I installed ubuntu last week and my buddy keeps having to listen to me goiing "dude! ubuntu rules!" about 6 times a day since then05:34
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cafuegorjordan: Nope, but then, we use xdmcp for that.05:34
regeyaAzunai, yes and no lol05:34
vultairetonyyarusso: sorry, was looking at something else too... under playback, the mic is muted05:34
johnnybezakluisito: i presume you made a partition for windows when you setup ubuntu, so now just install windows into that partition05:34
slavikgalgoz: then you have a problem ...05:34
elia healthy problem05:35
galgozslavik: ??05:35
phiber_opticcan someone help me with gtk gnutella?05:35
Azunairegeya, do you have any experiance in installing newer range graphics cards?05:35
gnudreamerubuntu does rule! although some processes can be difficult05:35
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slavikgalgoz: you need to stop calling him ^^05:35
eliphiber_optic , sorry dont know the program05:35
anarkissedquestion:  What is the easiest way to get rid of the grey window frames, bars, etc. and replace it with the color of my choice in Xwindows?05:35
Azunaignudreamer, yeah like installing a damn graphics card so it will work :@05:35
galgozslavik: heheh, mainly via IM or Nextel DC05:35
tonyyarussovultaire,  You might try just playing around with a couple of other areas, I know there were more than one that involve the mic.  I've only used it once myself, to unmute actually.05:35
regeyaAzunai, no.05:35
HowiFrom what I could gather from the topic, the forum is down for good and it is replaced by this channel?05:35
Azunairegeya, damn! lol05:35
regeya!tell Azunai about ask05:35
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luisitojohnnybezak, no, there isn't an empty partition for windows, that's the problem.05:36
gnudreamerazunai or a tv capture card or a web cam05:36
slavikgalgoz: you need to get rid of all wired in the computer room that can possibly carry a network connection, remove all window (make the solid walls) then paint the room with aluminum based paint05:36
vultairetonyyarusso: ahh... thanks anyway I guess :P  I've been trying on and off for days to get this to work05:36
asheDisnipa:can you be a little more explicit?05:36
syntax13is there anyone who can help me with problems compiling glfw programs?05:36
gnudreamerxorg conf is how i got my graphics card working05:36
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Azunaignudreamer, my graphics card is kinda everything in one05:36
tonyyarussovultaire, Icky.  Wish I had a better idea for you.05:36
slavikwould there be any problem for xorg to work in 1280x768 resolution?05:36
Azunaignudreamer, yeh when i edit that xorg.conf xserver refuses to load?05:36
galgozslavik: um, tree?05:36
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slavikwhat tree?05:37
vultairetonyyarusso: np05:37
asheanybody know how to tell apt-get to use the cdrom instead of http?05:37
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galgozslavik: that is my way of saying you lost me05:37
AzunaiDoes anyone here have any idea how to install a ATI X850XT PE graphics card on ubuntu?05:37
regeyaseriously people, just ask the question, don't probe people first for vague information then get more specific as you finally find someone who knows.  this is the sort of b.s. I deal with when I work; people *will not* be direct and to the point.  it's annoying, counterproductive, and wastes both your and my time.05:37
phiber_opticrjordan can u help me please?05:37
gnudreamerazunai we have some really good graphics guys here sometimes...latley all my graphics questions go unanswered05:37
johnnybezakanyone here use scribus?05:37
rjordanphiber_optic, no. google it.05:37
slavikgalgoz: the point was to cut off all your ability to communicate outside the room ...05:37
Azunaignudreamer, so.. the graphics people are on holiday lol05:37
slavikthen you can't bother your friend :)05:37
tonyyarussoHow can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?05:38
gnudreamerthere might be a pay per solution ubuntu chat somewhere05:38
galgozslavik: ah :)05:38
regeyaruby needs something equivalent to pythoncard.05:38
johnnybezakphiber_optic: what's the problem?05:38
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slaviktonyyarusso: does ati provide a way to remove their drivers?05:38
galgozslavik: he understands now, he installed it thursday cause of my ranting and about 15 min later I got a call and he was like "dude, ubunut rules"05:38
patrick_I have a question pertaining to Sound Driver in teamspeak.  When I use OSS in teamspeak (only one that seems to work) I lose audo in everything else.  Anyway to assign Teamspeak to an alternitive driver that wont take over my other sounds or game sounds?05:38
phiber_opticmy gtk-gnutella cannot connect and I dont know what to do05:38
Azunaithere has to be a way to install this graphics card05:38
tonyyarussoslavik, No idea.05:38
Azunaioh i think kubuntu is installed do i just reload x?05:38
jbzzdanno:   Are you still around?05:39
slaviktonyyarusso: have you tried editing the config file in the proper location, beside that ... no clue05:39
gnudreameryou can always have a dual boot system so your operating system can do everything..but without end-users  like us linux will never compete with the devil05:39
slavikIMO, Ubuntu needs to do something with the menus ...05:39
slavikgnudreamer: who's the devil?05:39
johnnybezakpatrick_: that sounds like a problem with oss, rather than with your driver i'm not sure how to help though.05:39
gnudreamerwinblowz05:39
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rjordanAzunai, if you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf , the output of 'dmesg' and the error you get when you 'sudo modprobe -v fglrx' to a pastebin service it may make it easier for someone who knows to help you when they should stop by :)05:39
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tonyyarussoslavik, Well, the problem with that is the line will be fglrx in xorg.conf either way.05:39
Azunaignudreamer, i have decided that microsoft can stick its eula were the sun dont shine :)05:39
galgozgnudreamer: I only use windows for my macromedia studio 805:39
slavikas far as I kniow, ext3 can't mount zip files as partitions ... (which winxp can)05:40
patrick_johnnybezak, it does this samething on my other computer05:40
tonyyarussogalgoz, I've heard wine will run that.  Ever tried it?05:40
gnudreameri hear that synfig studio is as good as macromedia05:40
slaviktonyyarusso: maybe the symbolic link would be different? I honestly don't know hwo to help you05:40
Azunairjordan, sorry mate but i have no idea what u mean as im new to linux and the contecnt of xorg.conf is huge05:40
gnudreamerI cant get that installed like many tar's the manual dont explain how to install05:40
galgoztony: i tried crossover and it doesn't support it05:40
patrick_johnnybezak, is there an alternate driver I can point teamspeak to?05:40
galgoztony: you have to go back a few versions05:40
tonyyarussoslavik, That's a good suggestion anyway.  I can search around.05:40
SEJeffslavik, windows xp can not "mount zip files as partitions"05:40
regeyaslavik, winxp doesn't mount them, it's done elsewhere.  kde's konqueror can also use ioslaves to trick you into believing it can 'mount' zipfiles05:40
tonyyarussogalgoz, Huh.  Somebody lied then.05:40
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slavikregeya: konqueror ... not linux ...05:41
Azunaibrb guys05:41
rjordanAzunai, checkout pastebin.com05:41
phiber_opticjohnny break any suggestion?05:41
regeyaslavik, the first sentence was your first clue about what I was getting at...05:41
fangoriousdoes gnome have a systray app to monitor keyring usage (like the wallet in kde)?05:41
galgoztony: wait, you can run it, somehting about installing a nocd hack05:41
slavikSEJeff: I was reffering to the option of compressing the entire drive ...05:41
galgoztony: don't know anything about htat05:41
slavikSomething still needs to be done with the menus ...05:42
galgoztony: so I just run windows in linux using qemu05:42
SEJeffslavik, I'm pretty sure you can do stuff like that with loopback filesystems and some fuse magic05:42
galgoztony: thinking about switching to win4lin05:42
SEJeffslavik, I know that is possible05:42
tonyyarussogalgoz, Where'd you find that?05:42
regeyaok, I'm getting really extremely crabby, so I should go to bed or something05:42
regeya:-P05:42
ashedoes anyone know where on the live CD are the packages?05:42
slavikSEJeff: probably ... but I doubt it is as easy to set up ...05:42
galgoztony: on the crossover forum post on dreamweaver 805:43
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Azunaiyay kde :P05:43
regeyait's really quite an oversight given the great need for mountable zipfiles05:43
galgoztony: no idea where to find the nocd hack though05:43
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TheBeastAzunai LOL at teh microsoft eula thingie:)05:43
galgoztony: something about dl a pirate version05:43
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tonyyarussogalgoz, Okay.05:43
galgoztony; guess that would be ok, since I own the license legally05:43
AzunaiTheBeast, i ment it too05:43
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TheBeastmicrosoft is not that bad. they just make crappy operating systems :)05:44
phiber_opticjohnny break any suggestion?05:44
CanYouHelpMePlzTheBeast: true05:44
deadcat66'   all I get is 0+0 in and out.  any ideas?05:44
galgoztony: althougth since adobe just bought macromedia, I am hoping they will make a linux install05:44
slavikTheBeast: they still have the best solitaire program ^^05:44
AzunaiTheBeast, as a windows based technichal god i know the bugs that are in windows lol and i hate them all bill gates ha05:44
TheBeastCanYouHelpMePlz ask btw :)05:44
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TheBeastslavik good ol' solitaire:D05:44
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tonyyarussogalgoz, That would be way cool.05:45
Azunaislavik, yeah but that will be ported to linux soon enough :P05:45
galgoztony: here is hoping05:45
SEJeffAzunai, what qualifies you as a windows tech god?05:45
fangoriousanyone? gnome-keyring monitoring systray applet?05:45
slavikAzunai: I am sure Wine won't have a problem playing solitaire05:45
Hentai^XPworkAzunai bugs as?05:45
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TheBeastAzunai a good friend of mine works for them:)05:45
galgoztony: I would love to have only my custom media center, using beyond tv, not windows mce, be my only windows pc05:45
AzunaiSEJeff, a MCSE :)05:45
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deadcat66should I be using 'sudo dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda05:46
deadcat66' to unpack the tiger img?  or get rid of the sudo?  if I get rid of the sugo i get permission denied.  any ideas?05:46
phiber_opticplease can someone help me withm gtk-gnutella?05:46
AzunaiTheBeast, does he have a wife called kate?05:46
SEJeffAzunai, lol. ever heard the term "paper mcse" that doesn't know anything in practicallity? not saying you are05:46
slavikphiber_optic: state your problem05:46
TheBeastAzunai he's not married05:46
phiber_opticwhen I search I dont gett any resluts05:46
CanYouHelpMePlzon a freebsd system, what would be the command to kill all bash processes ?05:46
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phiber_optici dont even think its connected05:46
CanYouHelpMePlz*they are running in screen*05:46
slavikCanYouHelpMePlz: have you tried the docs?05:46
guanaco_I'm running a ssh server with ppk authentication, and works great, but when I try to do port forwarding i get error "Permission denied (publickey)"05:47
AzunaiSEJeff, yeh i have :) lol unfortunatly im not one wish i bloody was tho u any idea how many phone calls u get can u train our staff to do this or this05:47
guanaco_can U please help?05:47
galgozwhat is gnutella, this has been brought up several times in the last 5 min05:47
phiber_opticit says 0 nodes 0 files 0 kib05:47
AzunaiSEJeff, as i said i hate bill gates and i hate microsoft lol05:47
slavikgnutella, one of those programs you use to get RIAA's attention ^^05:47
AzunaiTheBeast, or GF called kate :)05:47
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CanYouHelpMePlzhmm, killall screen worked, never mind05:47
galgozah05:47
Hentai^XPworkAzunai can you go into #kubuntu-offtopic and talk to me about these windows bugs there?05:47
TheBeastAzunai he's a geek05:47
TheBeastgeeks don't have gfs05:47
slavikAzunai: you're jsut jealous because his OS was sold for 30USd and Unix was sold for 400USD by IBM ...05:48
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galgozis there a ubuntu offtopic?05:48
Hentai^XPworkyes05:48
galgozsince I am jsut chatting05:48
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patrick_Can anyone explain this http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=faq&id=3&item=43#q4305:48
Hentai^XPwork#ubuntu-offtopic05:48
AzunaiHentai^XPwork, unfortunatly i cant atm im trying to find a fix to fix my graphics card issue :(05:48
SEJeffAzunai, I get calls from headhunters (tech recruiting companies) weekly telling me about "great opportunities" they have for me in Unix systems admin05:48
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frazmanwwhere is the file with repositories05:48
phiber_opticslavik can u hellp me?05:48
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guanaco_I'm running a ssh server with ppk authentication, and works great, but when I try to do port forwarding i get error "Permission denied (publickey)"05:48
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tritiumguanaco_, try not to repeat, please05:48
Azunaislavik, LOL no i just dont like windows or any microsoft product apart from excel :)05:48
wheeSEJeff, usually, they mean Unix such as Solaris, HP-UX and the like05:49
madcapwhen you download something with synaptic or apt-get where is the package stored?05:49
SEJeffAzunai, nothing compares to M$ streets and Trips05:49
rjordanCanYouHelpMePlz, it would be 'killall -9 bash'05:49
slavikAzunai: I have to say that there is no real competitor to Access.05:49
SEJeffwhee, I work with HP-UX daily... and linux too05:49
slavikWho was asking about killing everything on FreeBSD?05:49
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CanYouHelpMePlzrjordan: got it already thanks :-) killall screen worked05:49
AzunaiSEJeff, seriously? so is unix worth going getting trained up on? cus i was always told the Windows servers was the way to go i was going to learn cisco but dont really see the point?05:49
galgozthere is a question, when I click on a link in an external app, they don't open into firefox automatically?05:49
galgozthere=here05:49
slavikgalgoz: what do you use right now?05:50
Azunaislavik, at the moment i would tend to agree i do like access :) come to think of it05:50
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SEJeffAzunai, Well look at the average salary of a M$ MCSE versus an HP CSA (HP-UX certified unix systems admin). The Unix systems admins always get paid more05:50
phiber_opticcan anybody help me pleasee ?05:50
slavikAzunai: MySQL is only recently started catching up to SQL Server and others ...05:50
TheBeastSEJeff how's HP-UX ?05:50
SEJeffAzunai, Cisco is also a very hot skillset to have. Basic cisco (CCNA) is easy as long as you understand networking and the OSI layer model05:51
slavikSEJeff: but how many jobs are available as the MS dude vs the HP dude?05:51
rjordanAzunai, it would be better to have experience adminitering linux servers then having an MCSE at this point, but only in terms of long term, not so much in the short term money bracket.05:51
AzunaiSEJeff, yeah but ... it means spending more money to learn a new os05:51
SEJeffTheBeast, in the process of being migrated to SLES (linux) :)05:51
patrick_Is there an alternate sound driver I can use with Teamspeak besides dev/dsp?05:51
slavikWHO WAS ASKING ABOUT FREEBSD?!05:51
slavikhttp://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=kill&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html05:51
SEJeffAzunai, no. I just learned it myself05:51
anarkissedi have tried to follow instructions found on the web to install kde and it all appeared to work but I'm still in gnome.  I wish to set custom colors on the GUI and don't know what to try next.05:51
frazmanwsomeone please tell me were the file is with repositories05:51
Azunairjordan, why do you say that?05:51
TheBeastSEJeff why? forgot to pay the licenses?:D05:51
galgozhere is a question, when I click on a link in an external app, they don't open into firefox automatically?05:51
AzunaiSEJeff, really?05:51
tritiumfrazmanw, /etc/apt/sources.list05:51
wheeguanaco_, look for AllowTcpForwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config05:51
CanYouHelpMePlzcan somone help me with a command? i want to move all files containing vent to a folder named ventrilo, how would i do this with a command?05:51
SEJeffTheBeast, java runs 23x faster on Linux than on HP-UX according to benchmarks on our own web applications05:52
guanaco_Thanks, Whee... I will05:52
SEJeffTheBeast, that alone is enough reason to switch05:52
holy_cowhey would anyone be able to tell me what library contains libXaw3d.so.7?05:52
rjordanAzunai, I've become more proficient at my job and am better positioned for future opportunities because of my *NIX experience. Anyone can learn windows.05:52
TheBeastoh05:52
slavikgalgoz: is firefox set as the default browser?05:52
holy_cowi can't find a reference to this anywhere, and xaw3dg package doesn't seem to contain this05:52
SEJeffrjordan, amen05:52
phiber_opticcan anybody help me pleasee ?05:52
AzunaiSEJeff, im attempting to learn C++ at the min so dont want to get caught up in too much info05:52
galgozslavik: I think so, if the only place you set that is in firefox05:52
holy_cowrjordan, actually most people don't learn windows, they learn the windows gui05:52
tonyyarussoSEJeff, 23?!?  Wow.05:53
tritiumAzunai, regarding the "E" in MCSE, if you want to call yourself a real engineer, get an engineering degree05:53
Azunairjordan, thats very true windows is easy05:53
slavikhmm05:53
syntax13can anyone help me with a problem compiling glfw programs? Everything was fine yesterday, and today i'm suddnely getting "Udefined Reference" errors to all the glfw functions05:53
holy_cowrjordan, anyone can learn a gui, which equally applies to any os as a general rule05:53
Azunaitritium, no im saving up some cash i want to do a masters degree in computer science :)05:53
tonyyarussorjordan, Anyone can learn *some* Windows.  Nobody truly knows how to make it work, because it doesn't.05:53
galgoztony: nice05:53
guanaco_Do I need to add an entry to /etc/ssh/ssh_config?  Before, I was not using PPK and the command ssh -D will work, but know that I use PPK i get permission deniend05:53
anarkissedtritium the E in mcse stands for expert, microsoft certified systems expert, not engineer05:53
SEJeffAzunai, I can learn unix skills and write a script to administer 100 computers just as fast as I administer 1. Try doing that with 100 windows servers05:54
holy_cowAzunai, windows isn't easy, it just has a gui for most average things.  the reason windows is so hacked beyond belief is because average users THINK windows is easy and as such don't bother learning how to properly admin a computer05:54
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tritiumanarkissed, that's more appropriate...05:54
slavikgalgoz: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_Your_Default_Browser05:54
phiber_opticcan someone help me with gtk-gnutella?05:54
galgozslavid: checking it out thanks05:54
Azunaiholy_cow, hell i disagree everything in windows has easy to use gui's05:55
rjordanI've never heard a windows admin say 'Now begone! Or I shall replace you with a very small batchfile!'05:55
Azunaiholy_cow, windows is basicaly self explanitory05:55
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slavikgalgoz: that was done using google :)05:55
holy_cowAzunai, it is not self explanatory05:55
Azunairjordan, LOL05:55
holy_cowAzunai, it just seems self explanatory because people have 15 years of training on it05:55
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slavikholy_cow: good point there05:55
anarkisseddoes anyone have a suggestion as to where i can go to get real-time help in customizing my ubuntu X desktop?05:56
galgozslavik: see, I always think I need the ubuntu forums05:56
cafuegoanarkissed: Most MCSEs are neither engineers nor experts, so i don't think the interpretation matters.05:56
holy_cowAzunai, its always interesting to watch people make such comments and be totally unaware of the simple fact that using someting for 15 years seems like 'sself explanatory'05:56
Azunaiholy_cow, im 21 lol not had that much training but it really is self explanitory it tells you everything u need to know05:56
holy_cowAzunai, sorry dude, wrong05:56
Azunaicafuego, i tend to agree05:56
phiber_opticcan someone help me with gtk-gnutella?05:56
slavikSome of the problems and peeves that I bring up to some people who are more knowledgable about *nix, they always have an answer05:56
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slavikphiber_optic: does gnutella connect to the server?05:56
anarkissedcafuego, that's just what m$ has named the degree for mcse so take it up with them05:56
Azunaiholy_cow, thats just my opinion but i really think it does i mean whats not self explanitory?05:56
holy_cowAzunai, write a gui for all the command stuff in linux and that will seem 'self explanatory' as well05:56
phiber_optici dont know I very new to linux05:56
slavikalso, is there a way to run ethereal in a "live mode" ?05:56
draconiusslavik: yes05:57
rjordanAzunai, I'm 23 and have a lot of practical linux experience, it's a very empowering road to travel, however frustrating :)05:57
cafuegoanarkissed: yeah, "Monkey Certificate" didn't sell well, so they changed it ;-)05:57
Azunaiholy_cow, i cant even install a graphics card in linux writing a gui is a little too hard for me05:57
slavikphiber_optic: is there a way to check if it is connected to anything?05:57
tonyyarussoHow can I force apt to install --reinstall a package from the repos if a new version was installed manually?05:57
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slavikphiber_optic: It might not be connected05:57
phiber_opticI think it is not05:57
Azunairjordan, were do you start tho?05:57
slaviktonyyarusso: I think there is a --force option05:57
phiber_optichow do I make it connect to sommething?05:57
menkentanyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working in breezy?05:57
slavikphiber_optic: in the options?05:57
holy_cowAzunai, it has to do with 'persistence of belief' once you come to a conclusion about something you will hold on to it no matter what anyone says.  thus i am not trying to change your mind, simply illustrate an alternative possiblity for WHY you have those beliefs :)05:57
Azunairjordan, there are so many distro's and commands etc05:57
tritiumtonyyarusso, with that very option (--reinstall)05:57
holy_cowbut go ahead, believe that windows is self explanatory all you want05:57
phiber_opticWhat options?05:57
draconiusslavik: when you setup a capture, have the option set that says 'update list of packets in real time"05:58
rjordanAzunai, I started with OpenBSD. Now I use FreeBSD for my home server and Gentoo linux and ubuntu linux.05:58
slavikdraconius: thanks.05:58
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Azunaiholy_cow, as i said its just my opinion because i was trained on it so i have become acustom to it but i may be wrong05:58
galgozslavik: it is set as default "firefox %s" is in the box just like the doc you had me read says but clicking on a link still does nothing05:58
slavikdraconius: another ethereal question, can it track which process/binary is sending/receiving packets?05:58
rjordanAzunai, I highly recommend freebsd as a learning tool and an example of how things should be done.05:58
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tonyyarussotritium, Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.05:58
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cafuegoanarkissed: Right after the killer asteroid hits05:58
Azunairjordan, i tried installing gentoo it took me 12 hours and guesse what05:58
phiber_opticslavik but  I get 0 nodes, 0 files 0 k9b05:58
PuppiesOnAcidHow do I load stuff onto my ipod through rhythmbox?05:58
slavikgalgoz: read on, it tells you how to reconfigure that.05:58
tritiumtonyyarusso, why do you say that?05:58
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CanYouHelpMePlzis ps aux an absolute list of everything that's running ?05:59
slavikphiber_optic: 0 nodes probably means that you aren't connected anywhere ...05:59
holy_cowAzunai, thank you.  that is exactly what i just said.  you have been trained on it.  being trained to use it and something being self explanatory are completely different things :)  again, just a point of interest.  take as you will05:59
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anarkissedok, i am not going to get help for my problem here I see, so I will go back to the usual places and keep hoping for a break05:59
tonyyarussotritium, Because it's registered as not being from the repos?05:59
anarkissedthanks anyway05:59
draconiusslavik: i am not sure, sorry05:59
phiber_optichow do I connect to anythign?05:59
slavikphiber_optic: if nodes are the 'servers' ...05:59
Azunairjordan, it installed fine but i couldnt get X to load had a problem when i tried to emerge -ati-drivers so i emerge --pretend ati-drivers and it had a dependancy issue05:59
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tonyyarussotritium, That's the error I got.05:59
Azunairjordan,  so i gave up05:59
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slavikphiber_optic: I have no clue, I don't use gnutella05:59
tritiumtonyyarusso, I see that it's available05:59
rjordanAzunai, YOU MUST NEVAR GIVE TEH UP!05:59
tonyyarussotritium, I know that it's available.05:59
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tritiumtonyyarusso, in the repos05:59
phiber_opticwhat software do u use to download?06:00
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StarKruz1hi guys.06:00
PuppiesOnAcidHow do I load stuff onto my ipod through rhythmbox?06:00
tonyyarussotritium, I have a higher version of the package from a standalone deb installed.06:00
Azunaiholy_cow, i do agree with you seen as my mum is scared of windows but uses mandrake linux and doesnt have a problem its just im that used to it its self explanitory lol06:00
galgozslavik: when I run update-alternatives --config x-www-browser06:00
slaviktonyyarusso: apt-get doesn't want to do something?06:00
StarKruz1I have an existing Ubuntu system and have two 30GB drives I want to add to it.06:00
galgozslavik: it says I have only one browser installed06:00
menkentanyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working (in breezy)?06:00
Azunairjordan, dude if you wanna SSH install gentoo il download the live cd right now06:00
tonyyarussoslavik, Correct.06:00
StarKruz1is there some way I can join these to the existing partition?06:00
Azunairjordan, and at 1200kbs it wont take long06:00
Azunairjordan, lol06:00
slaviktonyyarusso: hold on ...06:00
vultairedoes anyone have a favorite resource for linux c/c++ programming tutorials?  I do a lot of Windoze coding, but I'd like to experiment in Linux with stuff06:01
tritiumtonyyarusso, purge it, and reinstall from the repos.  Why did you do that, by the way?06:01
tonyyarussoslavik, I have fglrx from ati.com, and I want to change it back to the repos one.  Will wait.06:01
holy_cowvultaire, google :)06:01
tritiumati.com has .deb downloads now?06:01
holy_cowvultaire, the topic is so large as to be unansweable on irc ... pick a project and go from there06:01
slaviktonyyarusso: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/apt-get.8.html06:01
Azunaitritium, no its a .run file as far as im aware06:01
tonyyarussotritium, I thought the repos one wasn't working, only to later find out that it was the program I was testing it with, and now I'm a little suspicious about another problem, since it's the only thing I changed.06:02
rjordanAzunai, that would defeat the purpose of the task. the idea is to gain the experience of doing it. sometimes multiple times.06:02
slavikscroll down to '--force-yes'06:02
jbzzStarKruz1:    You simply want to attach two additional hard drives?06:02
tonyyarussoThanks slavik.06:02
slavikI think youa re looking for that06:02
Hentai^XPworkAzunai what bugs exactly in windows?06:02
Azunairjordan, i havnt got a printer anymore so i cant print the instalation manual man06:02
PuppiesOnAcidIs it possible to load songs onto an iPod from rhythmbox?06:02
slaviktonyyarusso: what does apt-get say when you try to install the stuff from the repo?06:02
tritiumtonyyarusso, it's best not to install non-ubuntu packages06:02
vultaireholy_cow: you're right, I left that one wide open...  I'm trying to find resources that'll teach me the basics of using gcc to compile c++ apps06:02
StarKruz1jbzz: yup.06:02
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tonyyarussoslavik, Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.06:03
slaviktritium: he wants to revert the gfx driver from the ati one to the one in repository06:03
vultaireholy_cow: and I am searching google, just was hoping someone knew of a good resource off hand06:03
StarKruz1but I want to make the space in them accessible to, for example, the /home and /var/www partitions.06:03
soapi've a problem on mysql06:03
tritiumslavik, I know06:03
jbzzStarKruz1:   Have you added hard drives to your system in the past?06:03
slavikk06:03
tonyyarussotritium, Yeah, yeah...06:03
rjordanAzunai, the entire gentoo handbook is on the livecd. it prints what you have to type to access it when it boots.06:03
StarKruz1jbzz: not under Linux.06:03
slaviktonyyarusso: maybe something with the package file is messed up?06:03
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jbzzStarKruz1:  But under some other operating system?06:03
holy_cowvultaire, well generally you get an app, uncompress it to a folder, do ./configure, make, mainstall and your done06:03
StarKruz1sure.06:03
StarKruz1Windows.06:03
soapany one can help me06:03
holy_cowgoogle those commands :)06:03
tritiumtonyyarusso, I'm just telling you.  So if you install some .run from ati.com, you get to fix your system when it breaks06:03
galgozslavik: There is only 1 program which provides x-www-browser06:04
galgoz(/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox). Nothing to configure.06:04
StarKruz1Windows doesn't have the functionality I'm looking for, but I suspect Linux does because of the md subsystem.06:04
holy_cowmakeinstall even (i think, been a while since i had to compile anything)06:04
jbzzStarKruz1:  OK.  Well do yoiu have enough open connectors for the hard drives?06:04
menkentanyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working (in breezy)?06:04
vultaireholy_cow: I know that and I've done that, but I don't want to just compile from source: I want to write my own apps06:04
StarKruz1jbzz: this isn't a hardware question :)06:04
slavikgalgoz: try installing mozilla or some other browser and set that as default, the set firefox as default again ...06:04
soapCan't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'06:04
soapbash: syntax error near unexpected token `('06:04
soapsoap@2ndSpace:/etc$ Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!06:04
soapbash: Check: command not found06:04
soapsoap@2ndSpace:/etc$06:04
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StarKruz1I know how to connect new drives to my system06:04
tritiumsoap, don't paste06:04
galgozslavik: will do06:04
slavikthat is the thing I was hinting at (badly)06:04
StarKruz1!tell soap about pastebin06:04
jbzzStarKruz1:  Then you want to know how to mount volumes that are already attached?06:04
slavikgalgoz: things like that can happen in windows ... sometimes programs request a special browser instead of the default one06:05
AzunaiHentai^XPwork, apart from the entire registry filing system is a joke the security of the os there isnt one its ability to spike cpu usage for no aparent reason the way that it handles cab files, the way that the /temp dir is "suppost" to work yet doesnt and another thing i can think of off the top of my head is the way that windows utalizes ram very interesting its not doing anything yet06:05
Azunaiu still get 350mb of ram been used06:05
Azunaithe entire os is a joke06:05
StarKruz1jbzz: I want to know how to add new drives to my existing filesystem such that they appear to be one seamless volume of storage.06:05
tonyyarussoslavik, I don't think so, I think it's because it's confused by the version number / markings of where it's coming from.06:05
Azunaias i previoisly said Bill gates can stick his eula up his arse!06:05
StarKruz1software raid on the fly, if you will.06:05
tonyyarussoslavik, --force-yes didn't change anything.06:05
jbzzStarKruz1:   Do you know about the command named      mount       ?06:06
CanYouHelpMePlzAzunai: you go girl!06:06
tritiumStarKruz1, you probably want to use LVM06:06
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slaviktonyyarusso: I am out of options ...06:06
galgozslavik: I am not using windows???06:06
TheBeastuniting nations is so gay06:06
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slavikgalgoz: scroll down more06:06
tonyyarussoslavik, If I download the repos .deb separately, dpkg -i always overwrites, true?06:06
StarKruz1tritium: do tell.06:06
slavikthey have linux and osx even :)06:06
TheBeast"out of touch" is really..06:06
tritiumtonyyarusso, which version of the driver does apt-get think you have installed?06:06
holy_cowah, vultaire in that case i won't be able to give you any pertinent information the answer requires it to be task specific.  your using c++, in which case probably you will either be using gtkmm or qt (gnome or kde tookits) for the project.  once you choose which of those you will use the rest of the answer is fairly simple i think06:06
Azunairjordan, but the point is simple once the os is actualy installed i cannot get the x server to work no matter what i do06:06
StarKruz1I believe the Linux Volume Manager starts at boot.06:06
slaviktonyyarusso: I am not familiar with dpckg, sorry.06:06
galgozslavik: I went to the end06:06
holy_cowvultaire, sorry for the non answer, best i can do06:06
pussfellermenkent: try gong to http://0.0.0.0:631 and adding a printer that way06:06
tritiumStarKruz1, I've not used it.  I suggest you read the howto on tldp.org06:06
tonyyarussotritium, 8.21.7-006:07
holy_cowAzunai, what vid card?06:07
nanotubehey all. is it just me, or is ubuntuforums down?06:07
rjordanAzunai, using which driver? the fglrx? (ati-driver)06:07
Azunairead up on Windows Vista now that made me piss myself when i read what they have done06:07
cafuegopussfeller: 127.0.0.1 you mean?06:07
bimberi!forumsdown06:07
ubotuubuntuforums should be back up at about 23/1/2006 5am UTC06:07
rjordanAzunai, just use ati for the time being.06:07
phiber_opticcan somebody PLEASE HELP ME WITH GTKgnutella please06:07
nanotubethanks bimberi :)06:07
slavikgalgoz: I will pm you, the passage, ok?06:07
tritiumtonyyarusso, please run "apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx"06:07
Azunairjordan, the emerge -ati-driver06:07
vultaireholy_cow: hey, thanks, I appreciate what you could answer with =)06:07
bimberinanotube: yw :)06:07
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slavikphiber_optic: read the docs on how to get connected ...06:07
galgozslavik: sure06:07
Azunaiholy_cow, Ati X850XT PE06:07
Uraeuhi guys06:07
rjordanAzunai, did you ask in #gentoo06:07
phiber_optici read but it doesnt say06:07
holy_cowAzunai, so how far did you get with the driver install info on the wiki?06:07
Azunairjordan, couldnt install irc client06:08
tritiumAzunai, which driver are you installing?06:08
menkentpussfeller, it won't let me log in... just keeps asking for username/pass over and over and over...06:08
rjordanemerge bitchx06:08
Azunaitritium, the one of the ati site?06:08
steve_laptopis it me or is ubuntu forum down .org06:08
Azunaiholy06:08
pussfellermenkent: i forgot ubuntu disables that by default06:08
cafuegoWhy can't people read the topic?06:08
tritiumAzunai, I wouldn't do that.  Please use the ubuntu fglrx packages instead.06:08
Azunaiholy_cow, i downloaded the one from the ati site and followed the instructions exactly as they said06:08
holy_cowah forget it, i won't help you with that06:08
holy_cowuse the ones from the repo06:09
Uraeuguys, where can i get ddd debbuger for ubuntu06:09
Azunaitritium, dont i have to uninstall the ones i have???06:09
tonyyarussotritium, That's what I just did.  8.21.7-0.  And it shows two repos options, security restricted and regular restricted, 6.8.0-8.16.20.06:09
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holy_cowdownloading from ati, you should know that ati makes shit drivers even for windows06:09
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menkentyer, ubuntu seems to have disabled quite a bit by default. i haven't had any luck finding faqs to get around such problems06:09
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tritiumtonyyarusso, you got that .deb from ati.com?06:09
bimberiUraeu: it's in the universe repository ...06:09
bimberiubotu tell Uraeu about universe06:09
tritiumAzunai, you should, yes.06:09
tritium!tell Azunai about ati06:09
tonyyarussotritium, Correct.  As part of the .run that creates for various distros.06:09
bimberiubotu tell steve_laptop about forumsdown06:09
pussfellermenkent: what is the specific error you are getting? are you using the right drivers?06:09
Azunaiholy_cow, yeh but in windows i just use the Saphire drivers (the manufactor of the card :)06:10
tritiumtonyyarusso, and why can't you simply purge that package, and then reinstall from the repo:06:10
Uraeuhow do i add it to my repository ?06:10
holy_cowi don't care, you are at fault for buying a shit card, from a shit company, that makes shit drivers06:10
pussfellermenkent: you might try linuxprinting.org to find which drivers you need if ubuntu cant autodetict it06:10
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slavikholy_cow: the market would disagree with you06:10
holy_cowgo use windows then :) it will make your life easier with such crappy hardware06:10
steve_laptopbimberi, thanks06:10
Azunaitritium, yeah one of them sites i followed the instructions exactly so i guesse im gunna have to do the other one06:10
menkentyea, using the right driver. no error at all really, just nothing comes out of the printer. it detects fine and i click "print test page" but nothing happens06:10
bimberisteve_laptop: yw :)06:10
DarkSenayHow do you use the alien command for .rpm files in ubuntu06:10
slaviksince ati and nvidia have close to 50% each in the desktop graphics market06:10
tonyyarussotritium, Because errors are encountered when processing it.06:10
Azunaitritium, but dont i have to unistall the ones in installed first?06:11
pussfellerholy_cow: thats not a real helpful answer06:11
holy_cowslavik, market share is not indicative of quality06:11
tritiumAzunai, I would highly recommend it.06:11
slavikholy_cow: I would diagree.06:11
slavikpussfeller: what was your question?06:11
Azunairjordan, i couldnt access irc man it let me download eveerything i needed but i got connection blocked when attempting to access an irc server06:11
holy_cowpussfeller, indeed it is.06:11
Azunaitritium, how do i uninstall them?06:11
tonyyarussotritium, With dpkg-divert.06:11
pussfellerslavik: i have no questions06:11
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slavikk06:11
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phiber_opticnobody wants to help me06:12
phiber_optic:(06:12
Azunaiu guys are linux pro's whats better Gnome unbuntu or KDE unbuntu?06:12
tritiumAzunai, sorry, ati.com downloads aren't really the topic of support here06:12
holy_cowphiber_optic, maybe no one is around that knows the answer to your question, hang in there06:12
tonyyarussoAzunai, Personal preference.  I like Gnome.06:12
Azunaitritium, so what do i do?06:12
slavikAzunai: If you ask Linus, he will say KDE06:12
aranisAzunai: your choice.06:12
holy_cowAzunai, dumb question, its like asking what is better, vanilla or chocolate.  use what you like06:12
phiber_opticmost people i think they use gnutella06:12
galgozazunai, I like the look of gnome better06:12
phiber_opticand cannot help me06:12
Toma-Azunai, same poo, different smell :)06:12
aranisi like xfce :-)06:12
Azunaiok then whats faster performance wise?06:13
slavikphiber_optic: have you read the docs or used google to find out how to connect?06:13
holy_cowAzunai, same06:13
tonyyarussoAzunai, xfce.06:13
thechrisAzunai: i would try out both.  i have issues with GTK+ apps.06:13
phiber_opticyeah06:13
galgozazunai, I hear windowmaker is faster06:13
slavik0 nodes means you aren't connected to anything ...06:13
phiber_opticBut I dont find anything06:13
rjordanphiber_optic, that's right! noone wants to help because you seem to be incapable of following instruction!06:13
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Toma-Azunai, both are pretty big and heavy. both are quick if you chop alot of stuff out of them tho06:13
JDigitalI like Gnome but I'm not a huge fan of Nautilus06:13
tritiumAzunai, does ati.com have instructions on how to uninstall?06:13
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slavikI tried xfce ... it isn't for me ... at least yet06:13
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thechrisi like xfce's look, but ended up using KDE and configuring it to look like xfce06:13
Toma-galgoz, what about twm >_>06:13
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slavikApple needs to release the source code for their OSX GUI06:13
tonyyarussoToma-, Such as?  (To chop out.)06:13
Azunaitritium, no they dont have instructions on how to install i followed the wiki guide on drivers from ATI site06:14
Toma-tonyyarusso, nautilus :D06:14
galgoztoma, no idea, haven't tried it, just repeating what I have read :)06:14
MickMcMackslavik, just look at Enlightenment. ;-)06:14
holy_cowslavik, oh god not, not that mosntrosity!06:14
Toma-hehe06:14
holy_cow:)06:14
tonyyarussoToma-, I see.06:14
tonyyarussoToma-, In favor of?06:14
Azunaitritium, but seen as those drivers dont work is it really a nessesity to unsintal them?06:14
tritiumAzunai, next time, follow the ubuntu wiki site, and install ubuntu packages.  It'll be much less painfull.06:14
Azunaitritium, i can try :P06:14
menkentok, the only error i can half-way find is that now when i go into the printer's options it says under Status "Printing: Printer off-line."06:14
slavikMickMcMack: I tried it once ... didn't like at the time ... was long time ago ... although I heard that it was very nice ...06:14
tritiumgo for it, Azunai06:14
Azunaitritium, on my way :(06:15
Toma-tonyyarusso, i guess if you replace metacity with say, something lighter, you could get a nice boost. replace nautalis with rox-filer :D06:15
galgozslavik, I did a google search on creating a symlink for firefox 1.5 and it is on the ubuntu forums :) guess I will find the answer when the forums are back up06:15
pussfellermenkent: you wight try doing a tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log06:15
slavikgalgoz: you are using badger?06:15
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slavikgalgoz: did you set up  1.5 the same way as in the wiki guide?06:15
Toma-im running xfce on a 266 right now, im gonna try getting rid of alot of the slow-downs and get initng to get it quick06:15
Kevman_Has anyone ever tried to install Java on PPC?06:16
galgozslavik: automaix set up my firefox06:16
slavik1.5?06:16
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slavikon badger?06:16
galgozslavik: yeah, on ubuntu 5.1006:16
holy_cowToma-, in all honesty, its cheaper to just get a new system for 300$.  that would include a 64 bit cpu as well06:16
galgozslavik: did I break it heheh :)06:16
holy_cow:)06:16
Azunai The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higer. Or it is in the X series (eg X300) i take it that means i can use these drivers for an X850 XT PE card?06:16
menkentI [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 1 0875) for job 6.06:16
menkentI [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 10876) for job 6.06:16
menkentI [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 10 877) for job 6.06:16
menkentW [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  [Job 6]  Printer off-line.06:16
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slavikgalgoz: no clue06:16
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Tired_Hello.  A friend of mine asked me to install Linux for dual-booting, just to see what the fuss is about.  I have a 2.5 GB partition available.  Will Ubuntu work well in that little space?06:17
slavikon vmware, I used the wiki guide ... didn't notice any problems06:17
tritiummenkent, no pasting please06:17
tonyyarusso!tell menkent about paste06:17
menkentphew, i figured the channel would kill me for spamming with that yea yea06:17
galgozslavik: no worries, like I said, according to my google search the answer is on the forums and they will be back up soon06:17
slavikalso, for the ati install guide: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.21.7-inst.html06:17
Toma-holy_cow, i know :D its only a temporary solution till i get the cash for an uber-system. after that, ill give this to my g/f as a media centre so she can watch dvds + copy them to the hdd and so on06:17
holy_cowTired_, why bother ... download the trial for vmware for them and install it on that06:17
jbzzHow would I make a Ubuntu user belong to more than one group?  I do not see a way to set that in 'Users and Groups'.06:17
slavikgalgoz: did you try the google cache file?06:17
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galgozslavik: no, good idea06:17
Tired_cuz I wasn't asked to do that.  :/06:17
TheBeastTired_ get the livecd06:17
holy_cowTired_, if they are looking at 'what the fuss is about' you can just wipe vmware off their system after 30 days06:17
TheBeastburn and release teh power06:17
tritiumjbzz, you can use the adduser command, for one06:18
pussfellermenkent: if its not offline, and its not a usb hub problem, or a driver problem, I don't know, I wish i did06:18
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nanotubeAzunai: did you see this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI06:18
nanotubeazunai: it says that it is ok to use the drivers from ati.com...06:18
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jbzztritium:  I will investigate.  Thanks.06:18
Tired_I have the live cd, but that wasn't what i asked.06:18
tritiumjbzz, the manpage gives simple instructions on how to use it06:18
slavikhow do I get to the web admin for ubuntu?06:18
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slavikthey need to make the wiki search box easier to get06:18
jbzztritium:  Roger that.  Thanks.06:18
holy_cowTired_, your going to hose his system getting it to dual boot, its the wrong approach 'to see what the fuss is about'06:18
Azunainanotube, yeh i already installed them and they dont work on my card :(06:19
slavikand make the doc links more straight forward06:19
tonyyarussoBack to repos' fglrx!  (dpkg -i worked)06:19
menkentthx for the try. i'm too annoyed to mess with it more tonight. everything i find online says to mess with it in CUPS, which ubuntu won't let me do.06:19
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Kevman_I'm installing Java from the IBM SDK. Running ./Java from its install point works, but after I do the alternatives stuff, I get a Java: command not found error trying to run it. Help?06:19
Azunaiok on this Wiki guide it says update the kernal should i or should i skip that?06:19
nanotubeTired_: 2.5 gb is quite enough to install ubuntu on.06:19
tritiumhow goes it, cafuego?06:19
Tired_Thank you nanotube.  :)06:19
nanotubetired_: just dont get too happy installing a bunch of large packages06:19
Azunaiok on this Wiki guide it says update the kernal should i or should i skip that?06:20
nanotubetired_: and of course, be careful and make sure you know what you are doing :)06:20
Tired_no, i was thinking just basic desktop stuff like firefox, gaim, etc06:20
TheBeastdid anyone got a soulseek client to work on linux?06:20
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elianyone here know how to change the resolution on fglrx for ati after installation?06:20
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nanotubetired_: firefox, gaim, etc all come with the default install. so seems that you should be ok. :)06:21
AzunaiTheBeast, were u from mate?06:21
elii have a widescreen and it is showing by default another resolution06:21
tritium!tell eli about resolution06:21
TheBeastAzunai Earth?06:21
Tired_sweet.  I've heard ATI drivers for Linux are kinda rough...the system has an old 3D Rage Pro...is that old enough to have decent linux support?06:21
TheBeastyou can find good music on slsk06:21
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AzunaiTheBeast, lol06:22
holy_coweli, before you can change resolution, you haveto have the proper refresh rates in your /ect/X11/xorg.conf file.  look up your monitore on the net for vertical and horizonal refresh rates, and google xorg.conf to know where to put them in.  after that restart x and you will be able to change reso from system/preferences/screen resolution06:22
plastikanyone aware of a website with perhaps a idiots guide to linux and/or ubuntu?06:22
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elithanks tritium and holy_cow06:22
nanotubetired_: i dont know specifically for that card... but chances are good. :) you could always test it out booting from a livecd, before installing to the hd, to make sure all the hardware you care about is supported.06:22
profhi, i was wondering if anyone could help me with a resolution problem. i have a radeon 9600, and a widescreen LCD. the resolution on the LCD won't go above 1024x768, but when i ran fglrx-config i included other resolutions. I'm doing dual monitors and the other monitor is able to go to 1280x1024, but again, i included higher ones in my setup.06:22
thechrisplastik: tldp.org <-- read advanced guide to bash.  because its cool.06:22
galgozplastik: I am wanting to create that website06:22
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holy_cowplastik, no such thing.  learning linux is task oriented.  pick what you are trying to do and google / irc / wiki.ubuntu.org your ass off.  remember your not just installing ubuntu you are upgrading your skills06:23
galgozplastik: http://www.mygnuworld.org06:23
Toma-anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before?06:23
gbleemforums are down. I thought I would try this.06:23
Azunairight according to the wiki file ive just installed the ubunutu ati drivers i bet this doesnt work and i copied and pasted every command!06:23
heqqwho can tell me the "system monitor" is belong to which packages?thanks06:23
plastikthanks for the answers I'll look into them06:24
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tritiumheqq, gnome-applets06:24
Azunairight il brb when ive rebooted and then rededited my xorg.conf file to bloody ati again cus x didnt load :S brb06:24
holy_cowheqq, its in the default install, its just an applet.  right click on the panel, add applet, select system monitor06:24
adubis there commands to let you know your processor and ram06:25
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heqqthanks tritium06:25
bshumate!funky06:25
ubotuit has been said that funky is Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 06:25
holy_cowthat azunai kid is a bit think, *sigh*06:25
nanotubeheqq: there is a package called 'gnome-system-monitor'06:25
holy_cowthick even06:25
frogzooadub, cat /proc/cpu etc06:25
Dr_Willisholy_cow,  :P06:25
psusiomfg, roflmfao06:25
nanotubeheqq: holy_cow speaks true - it is in the default install, so you really shouldnt have to install it manually.06:26
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irvin!easysource06:26
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic06:26
psusitoejam and earl style06:26
Tired_nanotube -> good idea, I hadn't thought of that.  Thanks a lot for the straight answers  :)06:26
profis it possible to have dual monitors work in linux as they do in windows? i can get 2 desktops, but i can't drag things between the monitors. and i can get 1 long destop, but i can't maximize a program to one monitor...06:26
cr1msonHow do I add a command line when booting ubuntu?06:26
heqqi want to know the package if i report the defect06:26
nanotubetired_: no prob. i am a newbie to ubuntu myself (3 weeks), though ive done a bunch of other *nix stuff before, so i had the same questions as you :)06:26
TheBeastwhat's this fashion with 2 monitors?06:27
holy_cowprof, very easy i do it all the time.  prof the only catch is we don't really have a gui to set it up.  you have to do it manually via command line.06:27
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adubfrogzoo command not doing the trick06:27
TheBeastit's stupid to have something between your displays06:27
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TheBeast:)06:27
profi like to be able to drag things back and forth, thebeast06:27
Tired_;)  well, when I become less of a newb, I'll be sure to come back and return the favour to another newbie.06:27
TheBeastI understand06:27
holy_cowprof, the general idea is buy a dual head card (easiest to setup), make sure its nvidia, use nvidia dual head thing not xinerama, go to wiki.ubuntulinux.org site and find the dual head setup it is by far the easiest setup info you will find anywhere06:28
frogzooprof, yes, it can be done - you'll need to tweak xorg.conf06:28
tonyyarussoThis is kind of weird.  Ubuntu is picking up users so fast sometimes I feel like I've been using it a long time hearing other people's times.  (Definitely not the case.)06:28
profi have a radeon 9600, holy_cow06:28
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profi have the 2 seperate desktops working right now06:28
Genelhello!! ^_^06:28
holy_cowprof, *ugh* strongly urge you to ditch it, i don't know how that will handle dual head06:28
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irvincan anyone pls give me the link of seveas repos? thanks06:29
profgot it for $20 ;)06:29
irvinSeveas: ping?06:29
holy_cowmaybe someone here has setup dual head on ati, prof sorry not sure about ati06:29
profno problem, thanks anyway06:29
tonyyarusso!tell irvin about seveas06:29
Genelamm.. i have a problem with my Ubuntu installation.. can someone help me?.. =$06:29
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frogzooprof, just google 'dual head ati' - should do06:29
tonyyarussoirvin, Thar ya go.06:29
holy_cowprof, try my steps anyway, theyshould help you dig up the info06:29
irvinthanks tonyyarusso06:30
johndarkhorseGenel: if you ask a question, someone will answer06:30
slavikGenel: we'd try ... but we don't know what you want06:30
Genel0k.. what is IRQ?06:30
holy_cowprof, what frogzoo said, i have been reading this chan for last 1 hour and EVERY SINGLE question could easily be googled :)06:30
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borisattvai did a succesfull mount of a network drive, but when i browse it via the point at /mnt/sharedfolder all files that are named with accented characters become converted to regular and inaccessible. while if i browse the same folder via network there are no problems... is there something i have to specify in the fstab for it to mount with full character support?06:30
frogzooGenel, the point is, asking for help just wastes b/w - just ask your question06:30
rixthHow can I log someone off?06:30
rixthThey are logged on to localhost06:30
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frogzooholy_cow, snap!!06:30
profyeah, i've been trying. so many similar, but not quite the same, questions get in the way =)06:30
Genelthe installation says that.. i have a wrong IRQ.. or something like that06:30
Genelhow can i fix it?.. =\06:31
slavikGenel: a 'wrong' IRQ can quite possibly be very bad ...06:31
gbleemare other people having problems with ubuntu forums?06:31
slavikor very minor.06:31
slavikCan you report the entire error?06:31
tonyyarussoI don't remember my installation experience, so for a turn of role, this is for the brand-new users to answer probably: How did you figure out where to go for help right of the bat?  Did something tell you the first time you booted up?06:31
borisattvagbleem: i think theyve exceeded this user connections.06:31
profno06:31
slavikThere are many things that can happen with IRQs06:31
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Geneli think that's all =\06:31
holy_cowGenel, move one of your cards to another slot :) that is the usual reason, but not always06:31
Genelhow can i fix it?06:32
borisattvamaximum pc an many othe rpublications did article son them so they are flooded with newbs06:32
profi just opened up x-chat and connected to the ubuntu server and this room popped up automatically06:32
Genel.o06:32
Genel:o06:32
slavikGenel, you need to be sure ...06:32
gnudreamerhow do i figure out what kernel version I am using?06:32
holy_cowborisattva, the did an article on ubuntu?06:32
profall of the few distros i've used have all been similar as far as their help chat06:32
sethkgnudreamer, uname -a06:32
tritiumgnudreamer, uname -r06:32
rixthgnudreamer, uname -a06:32
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Genelthat's all!..06:32
slavikgnudreamer: badger uses the 2.16.1206:32
frogzooGenel, you can pass the irqs to the driver from /etc/modprobe.d06:32
holy_cowyour kidding ... those windows blowholes did an article on linux?06:32
holy_cowwow06:32
slavikI think06:32
Genelthe wrong IRQ06:32
borisattvaholy_cow: i dont think irq can be switched by changing the slot, you probably have to change a jumper setting of a sort to change the peripherals IRQ settings06:32
tritium!your06:32
ubotuparse error: dunno what you're talking about, tritium06:32
slavikborisattva: it can, but depends on the system06:33
borisattvaholy_cow: yeah on their website about the ease of install06:33
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slavikin a modern system, all PCI cards must be able to share IRQs ...06:33
gnudreamerdoes anyone have a link on how to install  driver from a tar.gz package?06:33
holy_cowborisattva, depends on the mother board, no mother boards have irq's anymore except really really really cheap ones, usually irq's are manually assigned by bios06:33
sethkborisattva, that isn't quite true, at least for PCI devices.  PCI devices are scanned sequentially and the IRQs assigned automatically.  So moving to a different slot can indeed change the IRQ06:33
slavikin old ISA/PCI system, you could set the IRQ on the card itself (I have some card with jumpers for that)06:33
Toma-anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before? im getting a hard lockup with my system when its inserted06:33
sethkborisattva, plus, there is no other way to change it, other than using the BIOS if it has those features06:33
holy_cowwhat sethk said, infact almost all pci mobos do this06:33
borisattvathanks :) learned something.. (i left the pc scene in the late 90s, so my knowledge is ISA age)06:34
sethkslavik, that's quite true of isa06:34
slaviksethk: sometimes the BIOS isn't asked ...06:34
tonyyarussoprof, So you had to know to use XChat first?06:34
holy_cowright and even overclocking these days is done via bios, no mobos have dip switches06:34
profyeah. it's labeled "XChat IRC" so if you know you can get help on IRC, you should be able to figure it out06:34
sethkslavik, true, nevertheless, the pci bus is scanned sequentially, regardless of whether the bios or the os does the scanning06:34
slaviksethk: I know that Window's HAL can assign an IRQ of 23 or some such ...06:34
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tritiumgnudreamer, which driver?  You might not need to go through the trouble06:34
slaviksethk: I wouldn't know that.06:34
holy_cowborisattva, dude, i stopped reading this channel two weeks ago, i can't believe how many newbs have flooded in here for example ... things change instantly i guess :)06:34
sethkslavik, most processors don't even have an IRQ of 2306:34
gnudreamerbttv06:34
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tritiumgnudreamer, that's already supported06:35
ninjaanyone else running dapper got a laggy mouse in xorg?06:35
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slaviksethk: that was my point.06:35
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tritiumgnudreamer, modinfo bttv06:35
tonyyarussoprof, Well, that's something.  But a lot of people I talk to have never heard of IRC.06:35
slaviksethk: I believe the highest is 15 (0-15)06:35
proftrue06:35
slavikthe Window's HAL reassigns them06:35
pablo928holy_cow: I have a recent Asus mb that has dip switches.06:35
kredanyone know whats up with the english ubuntu forums?06:35
proflot of people haven't heard of linux, either ;)06:35
borisattvaholy_coq: yep.. i feel bad for the forum host, i can only imagine the load the server is going through. hopefully they'll bring it back up. its such a good search reference06:35
galgozslavik: my browser issue is fixed, thanks06:36
holy_cowninja, dapper has been undergoing majour xorg work recently, just wait and keep dist-upgrading ... also file / search bugs.  irc is not the best place for DEVELOPMENT release questions to be honest06:36
gnudreamerwhen a run the lshw command my tv card reads as unclaimed06:36
holy_cowpablo928, wow, go figure06:36
slavikgalgoz: did you do what the guide said?06:36
tonyyarussoI realize it would look sort of tacky, but I kind of think it would be a good idea for the default desktop background to be instructions about the different help options (IRC, Wiki, Forums, etc.).06:36
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tritiumgnudreamer, is the bttv module loaded?  Are you sure your card has that chipset?06:36
slavikgalgoz: even Linux is not free of problems that Windows had first. ^^06:36
profmaybe an intro thing like some other distros have, instead? includes basic functions and where to get help...06:36
tonyyarussoOr at least maybe a popup message just for the very first boot after install.06:37
gnudreamerI found references to my card (zoran chipset) in reference to bttv...06:37
kredanyone know why the ubuntu forums are down for so long?06:37
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gnudreamerI doubt the mod is loaded06:37
holy_cowtonyyarusso, that is indeed tacky, default desktop perhaps should have an applet that is obvious in some way with an option to permanently turn it off after first popup06:37
frogzooserver crash06:37
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slavikprof: Then there are many things that need to be changed on the installation ... like making it graphical.06:37
aaronhello.06:37
tonyyarussoholy_cow, That would be better.06:37
quackerAll my IDE controllers are set to DMA = 0 (off) and hdparm -d1 /dev/hd# doesn't work06:37
kreddo you know how long they have been down?06:37
galgozslavik, I did the symlink stuff06:37
frogzooquacker, man /etc/hdparm.conf06:38
profi mean on first boot, slavik. or first log in per account06:38
tritiumgnudreamer, lsmod | grep bttv to find out06:38
slaviklike in the wiki page?06:38
tonyyarussoslavik, Believe it or not, I liked not having a graphical installer.06:38
frogzooquacker, oh, & you need to be root06:38
aaronI'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?06:38
quackerfrogzoo, do you know how to read?06:38
galgozslavik, I know all OS's have their issues, I just like linux's issues more :)06:38
kredfrogzoo, do you know how long they have been down?06:38
borisattvakred: i think at this point they are just rejecting connections and as such not exactly down. probablymaxed out their simultaneous limit06:38
quackerfrogzoo, STFU please, I'm using a root shell06:38
tonyyarussogalgoz, That sounds about right!06:38
adubUbuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8    cat /proc/version gave me that information??   i thought i was running 5.10  can someone tell me what their ubuntu displays on version06:38
frogzooquacker, no quacker, what's reading?06:38
tritiumquacker, be kind, please06:38
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gnudreamerI can't find a definite card and tuner setting for my card06:38
pestilencei need to update the bios on my machine, but i don't have windows or a floppy, or any of the other usual suspects to do the flashing.  any ideas?06:38
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gnudreamer lsmod | grep bttv what should that command have done?06:38
frogzooquacker, gl with that :p06:38
borisattvaif kept refreshing it every few mins and a couepl of times it went through seemingly with many posts in between so some peopel are just camping on thier connections i guess06:39
galgoztony; plus I like the open source community and how they help each other06:39
slavikgalgoz: I don't ... because I don't know how to fix them. :(06:39
kredborisattva, ah thx just been trying it for a couple days and still down06:39
galgozslavik: you just did06:39
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slaviklike which script the $PATH gets set ...06:39
galgozslavik: google the problem and find the solution06:39
profso would anyone have any idea why my LCD resolution will only allow me to set it at 1024x768 while my CRT monitor can go to 1280x1024, when i have them both set up in my xorg.conf to take 1600x1200 and they are both capable of it?06:39
tritiumgnudreamer, if it returned nothing, the bttv module is not loaded06:39
quackerAnyone *else* know of a reason why IDE hosts will ignore hdparm?06:39
gnudreamerahh06:39
gnudreamerhmmm06:39
aaronI'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?06:39
tonyyarussogalgoz, The first time I came in here I just about died...past experience with Windows phone-in tech support, and then this.  A bit of a shock.06:40
cappicardif the IDE device doesn't support the function you're trying to send it06:40
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hotczechis ubuntuforums.org down or something?06:40
tritiumgnudreamer, try loading it, and see how that helps (sudo modprobe bttv)06:40
galgoztony: yeah, I was a tech support guy in the past06:40
holy_cowprof, you need the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for each monitor.  please google the rates for each moni and add them in the right spot in xorg.conf06:40
papawiskasyes it is hotczech06:40
galgoztony: own my own business now06:40
hotczechthx06:40
profok, thanks06:40
holy_cowprof, as per last comment, easily googleable tho :) c'mon06:40
windowfulHow do I give a bash script permission to run as root, even if the user calling the script hasn't got root permissions?06:40
profi'll check that06:40
profwhat would you google to find that out?06:40
tonyyarussoaaron, Can you confirm that it's not just an MSN server issue?06:40
papawiskasanyone know when the forum will be returning?06:40
slavikgalgoz: where do the $PATh and the $SHELL variables get set?06:40
holy_cowtonyyarusso, just curious what you mean 'shock' ... how so?06:41
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slavikand how do I get ksh to be emacs mode and not vi mode?06:41
galgozslavik: in windows?06:41
tonyyarussogalgoz, Nice.  I seem to end up doing tech support, but haven't figured out the part about how to get paid for it yet.06:41
slavikgalgoz: on linux ...06:41
aarontonyyarusso: I don't think it is; my friends can sign on on their non-linux boxes and there seems to be some forum traffic about this problem.06:41
gordoncan anyone selse here get on to the ubuntuforums? (ubuntuforums.org).06:41
galgozslavik: hehehe, I don't know06:41
aarontonyyarusso: none of that helped, though.06:41
robotgeekslavik: set -o vi sets vi mode in bash, i've never used ksh06:41
galgozslavik: I can tell you on windows06:41
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slavikgalgoz: I need it for linux06:42
aarongordon: I tried today and couldn't06:42
tonyyarussoholy_cow, Like when a person is warmed up too fast after a brush with hypothermia.  It was a very drastic and sudden difference.  (In a good way!)06:42
gnudreamerthe grep command returned info how do i check or configure the mod?06:42
slavikI think that .. and . should be included in the PATH06:42
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gordondam, what a pin...thier so usefull.06:42
gordons/pin/pain/06:42
adubUbuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8    cat /proc/version gave me that information??   i thought i was running 5.10  can someone tell me what their ubuntu displays on version06:42
tonyyarussoaaron, Well at least that rules out the easy option.  Nuts.06:42
slavikrobotgeek: does that option have to be set once or every time you get a new shell?06:42
nanotubewindowful: do 'chmod u+s scriptname'06:42
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galgozslavik: soory too new to linux06:42
slavikgalgoz: exactly ...06:43
nanotubewindowful: but consider whether you really want to do it :)06:43
robotgeekslavik: i believe you need to find such an option . i would suggest "man ksh"06:43
holy_cowtonyyarusso, lol, the thing about windows is that it has a gui for almost everything and as such you can remain a retard and think you actually have some skills.  linux being wide open just doesn't have the gui automateion (just yet), so being a retard is highly costly in this community.  some day that will change tho and you will be able to click and be a retard :)06:43
tonyyarussoadub, You want cat /etc/issue.06:43
slavikrobotgeek: man doesn't always work06:43
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holy_cowgod my spelling sucks :) heh06:43
windowfulnanotube, why not?06:43
gnudreamertritium the grep command returned info how do i check or configure the mod?06:43
gordongalgoz: use vi, learn to use it...very powerfull and universal. dont get into nano or any of that crap.06:43
robotgeekslavik: maybe ~/.kshrc06:43
slavikI was complaining about how bash is better than ksh, because it happens that bash is emacs mode by default and ksh is vi mode by default (I did not know it was possible)06:44
galgozslavik: I did a google search on " where do the $PATh and the $SHELL variables get set in linux" and it has some interesting results06:44
cafuego!your is <reply> Your what? Did you mean 'You are'?06:44
ubotuokay, cafuego06:44
tonyyarussoholy_cow, I've really enjoyed learning command line stuff too.  It's really powerful.  On that note though, have you seen the screenshots of gdebi?06:44
slavikthe look from my classmates was ... "you know, you can change ksh into emacs mode instead of the vi mode" ...06:44
nanotubewindowful: well, its generally considered a bad idea to run stuff as root, unless you really have to.06:44
aaronI'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?06:44
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tritiumgnudreamer, you can configure the module by passing it parameters when it loads.  You can specify these in /etc/modules06:44
slavikgalgoz: it also depends on the distro06:44
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holy_cowtonyyarusso, nope, what is it?06:44
HwyXingFrogHas anyone set up Azureus?06:45
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galgozslavik, which was why I was in the habit of just doing those searches on the ubuntu forums06:45
nanotubeslavik: have you looked at .bashrc?06:45
slavikaaron: if I were you, I'd try a debian support channel.06:45
galgozhwy: I use azureus06:45
aaronslavik: okay, thanks.06:45
windowfulnanotube, even if it's a prewritten script that's bug free (and yes, it's short enough that I'm certain of that)06:45
slaviknanotube: first time I heard of it ... but it isn't a real problem I was having06:45
galgozhwy: i had it installed by automatix06:45
aaron(though I think the same problem exists with gaim ubuntu)06:45
HwyXingFroggalgoz: I need to get the new java then install azureus, how do i do it?06:45
holy_cowHwyXingFrog, yeah it's just java. nothing to setup, make sure you have java installed, donwload jre and do java -jre package.jre and go06:45
holy_cowits that wimple mate06:46
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slavikaaron: what version of gaim?06:46
nanotubewindowful: well if you are sure its good, then its no problem. it's just "general philosophy" so as to discourage you to run everything as root. :)06:46
heatxsinkanyone in here know if the fglrx driver supports multiple displays like the nvidia driver?06:46
holy_cowsimple even06:46
tonyyarussoholy_cow, Let's you install downloaded standalone .deb packages on the desktop with dependencies taken care of by double-clicking them, like Windows click-to-install .exes.  Will be in Dapper.06:46
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galgozuse synaptic package manager to install automatix06:46
frogzoo!tell HwyXingFrog about java06:46
holy_cowtonyyarusso, is this a new app for ubuntu ... url?06:46
robotgeek!automatix06:46
ubotuhmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!06:46
frogzoo!tell HwyXingFrog about azureus06:46
nanotubeslavik: .bashrc in your home directory sets up a bunch of stuff in your environment, including $PATH and $SHELL...06:46
galgozhwy: then automatix will install it06:46
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borisattvaw00t06:46
slaviknanotube: I want to set them globally06:46
HwyXingFrogTHANKS GUYS06:46
tonyyarussogalgoz, fyi, people here don't take too kindly to suggesting automatix.06:46
galgozubotu: is that the official ubuntu ruling on automatix06:46
ubotuNo idea, galgoz06:46
tonyyarusso!automatix06:46
Toma-anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before? im getting a hard lockup with my system when its inserted06:47
robotgeekslavik: also ~/.bash_profile06:47
aaronslavik: not sure. How do I find out?06:47
slavikaaron: what version of GAIM are you using?06:47
windowfulwindowful, ubuntu pretty well protects against THAT by not giving us a #!$@ root account06:47
matt__hi all , does anyone know the fix for apt-get removing phpmyadmin?06:47
tonyyarussoSorry, that was redundant.06:47
slavikget the buddy list (somehow) and then help -> about06:47
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tritiumwindowful, it's there, but disabled for security06:47
slavikif it's 1.5 ... read the topic in the gaim channel ...06:47
robotgeekmatt__: apt-get remove phpmyadmin ?06:47
galgoztony: no idea automatix was bad06:47
slavikif it's MSN, assume the server is at fault.06:47
cafuegomatt__: Fix it by not removing something phpmyadmin depends on (like say php or mysql)06:47
aaronhmmm. okay.06:48
tonyyarussogalgoz, Try easyubuntu instead.06:48
matt__robotgeek: yeah I get errors when I try to remove it06:48
galgoztony: I am new to ubuntu and linux and I thought automatix was part of ubuntu06:48
matt__cafuego: if I try to remove anything it depends on it wont remove either06:48
robotgeekmatt__: hmm, can you paste them the pastebin?06:48
holy_cowtonyyarusso, well thats a simple app, you can write that in python in no time.  all it does is automate dpkg -i packagename for you06:48
galgoztony: easyubuntu?06:48
slavikautomatix?06:48
aaronslavik: could this have something to do with being in a hotel in China and the way they have the network set up here? Maybe the local srever is refusing the cookie??06:48
cafuegomatt__: Put the errors on the pastebin.06:48
windowfultritium, uh... what security do you gain by disabling root and then giving an open sudo to the user?06:48
tonyyarussogalgoz, Seems to be a common error, it's been deprecated in favor of easyubuntu.06:48
holy_cowtonyyarusso, frankly its not an interesting idea to me, its needed maybe for newbs and windows users06:48
tritium!tell windowful about rootsudo06:48
matt__whats the pastebin.. sorry im new06:48
cafuego!paste06:48
ubotupaste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text06:48
gbleemwhy would the root terminal in the Applications menu sometimes work and sometimes not?06:48
slavikaaron: if you're in china, you're safer not using an internet connection at all06:48
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galgoztony: can you install easyubuntu via synaptix?06:49
matt__!paste06:49
frogzoo!tell matt__  about pastebin06:49
slavikand you believe what the local gov't tells you to believe ...06:49
cafuegomatt__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/06:49
slavikbetter for your health ;)06:49
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galgozbrb, going back to gnome, this blue is driving me nuts06:49
aaronslavik: ?? why is that (pardon my ignorance)06:49
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slavikaaron: commies don't like 'spies' ;)06:49
nanotubeslavik: check /etc/profile06:49
cafuegoaaron: I think slavik has been influenced by the media a bit too much06:49
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tonyyarussoholy_cow, While it may not interest a lot of people who know what they're doing, it has the significance of addressing one of the key issues potential migraters have, increasing the likelihood of a switch.06:49
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holy_cowslavik, one can always proxy out of chine, its not an issue frankly, the problem is them finding a proxy their govt doesn't know about06:49
slavikcafuego: sorry, was born in a commie country ...06:50
Timberwolf_42Hello06:50
slaviknanotube: I'll look into it, ty06:50
holy_cowtonyyarusso, A LOT OF WORK is needed to get us to the point of being 'GUIRIFFIC' like osx or windows.  A LOT.  thats an infitesimally small bit.  but its progressing :)06:50
matt__ok i think i pasted it06:50
slavikcafuego: the one that doesn't exist06:50
gnudreamertritium i tried zappingtviewer it crashed gnome06:50
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tonyyarussoholy_cow, Every little bit helps.06:50
borisattvaslavik: youre forgetting bureaucracy and china is blessed with an immense population. making tracking even harder and easier for individuals to circumnavigate  all that is in their way06:50
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slavikborisattva: they can do what RIAA did with their lawsuits ...06:51
cafuegoEh! Neutrons!06:51
holy_cowtonyyarusso, :) that dealy is written in python too btw, even if your a newb you should be able to hack something like that together in not too long a time if there is an inclination06:51
Timberwolf_42Perhaps I'm not smart enough for this forum06:51
nanotubeslavik: np06:51
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, dude, i'm here, everyone is smarter than me06:51
holy_cowwtf are you talking about :)06:51
Timberwolf_42lol thank you06:51
borisattvalol06:51
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, ask the question, honestly06:51
slavikbut instead, the chinese gov't has the power to put you in jail, stick a piece of paper in front of you that says that you did bad things to them and then make you sign it06:52
tonyyarussoholy_cow, You know, one of these days I may just try to learn python.  I keep hearing about stuff that can be done with it without much trouble.06:52
Timberwolf_42I'm just pleased that I've  managed to connect here06:52
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robotgeekslavik: offtopic, please?06:52
slavikthen simply execute (not the software way) you06:52
slavik:)06:52
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slaviksorry, robotgeek, he asked.06:52
tritiumgnudreamer, sorry to hear that06:52
cafuegoslavik: Dude06:52
nanotubetonyarusso: yea, python is cool. :)06:52
holy_cowtonyyarusso, its one of the easiest ways to learn programming, i'm learning it as i go06:52
frogzoocan the chinese discussion please -> #ubuntu-offtopic06:52
borisattvaslavik: just as it was in the CCCP, yet people found ways.06:52
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slavikhaha06:52
Timberwolf_42I have no real question yet I just assumed I might  do well to sit here and absorb awhile06:52
gnudreamerould you be able to tell me how I can look at the bttv configuration?06:52
borisattvamy apologies frog06:52
cafuegoMuch as it is in the US, should you happen to be in Guantanamo Bay.06:52
tonyyarussoTimberwolf_42, A good strategy.06:52
mint"unable to copy user's xauthorization file"06:52
tritiumplease move the offtopic political discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic06:52
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holy_cowTimberwolf_42, osmosis is how everyone learns, welcome06:53
mintwhen i go into users and groups06:53
mintanyone ?06:53
nanotubeTimberwolf_42: yea, sitting around is never a bad idea. just watch out that your eyes dont glaze over from constant up-scrolling :)06:53
galgoztony: that was easyubuntu right?06:53
tonyyarussogalgoz, correct.06:53
robotgeekgalgoz: check your PM's06:53
gnudreamertritium.... im actually happy to have someone throw me a bone i've been working on this for awhile06:53
galgozwhen I do a search on tht in synaptic I find nothing06:53
tonyyarusso!easyubuntu06:53
robotgeekgalgoz: it's not in synpatic06:54
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tritiumgnudreamer, modinfo bttv lists all kinds of parameters that can be passed to the module06:54
tonyyarussohttps://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu/06:54
Timberwolf_42Point well taken nanotube06:54
galgozapt-get install easyubuntu ?06:54
matt__nevermind.. i got it06:54
plastikis there some reason synaptic is telling me i have the lastest ver of firefox, when i know it's up to at least 1.506:54
tonyyarussogalgoz, No, ^^.06:54
slavikgalgoz: apt-get install best-os-evar06:54
nanotube!ff1.506:54
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion06:54
thewayofzenforums been down for long?06:54
nanotubeplastik: check above line06:54
tritiumplastik, because 1.5 is not in the repository, so wha you have is the latest in that repo06:55
slavikplastik: 1.0.7 is latest in repos06:55
robotgeekplastik: cause you did not install it from the repos06:55
gnudreamerwow...so what kind of syntax might I use to play with parameters tritium06:55
galgozhehehe06:55
thewayofzen(i cant connect so im assuming thats it)06:55
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slavikplastik: hold on06:55
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slavikplastik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%2906:55
slaviktells you how to install 1.5 if you want it.06:55
tritiumgnudreamer, usually you don't need to fuss with any parameters, but if you must, you'd pass them when you modprobe the module, or list them alongside the module name in /etc/modules06:55
funkyMiNT"unable to copy user's xauthorization file"06:56
funkyMiNTwhats with the forums06:56
funkyMiNTare they down06:56
plastikthanks06:56
slavikI think wiki pages like that should be easily accessible ...06:56
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nanotubefunkymint: yes, they are down.06:56
bimberi!forumsdown06:56
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windowfultritium, This isn't about increasing security, it's about protecting yourself from stupidity.  I understand that's one of the features of "user friendly" and one of the major flaws with m$.  Still, lets call a spade a spade06:56
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frogzootritium, /etc/modules is deprecated - use /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy06:56
eli!ati06:56
ubotuhmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1006:56
tritiumwindowful, actually, there are security benefits to the sudo model06:56
elihmm thats not going to work06:57
TokenBadwhat is command to view partions in ubuntu?06:57
funkyMiNTwhats a good task/project for a newb in linux06:57
funkyMiNTany suggestions06:57
bimberiTokenBad: df06:57
tonyyarussoTokenBad, fdisk -l or df06:57
funkyMiNTto learn a some good stuff06:57
gnudreamerwhich tv viewer do you use tritium06:57
eli!fglrx06:57
frogzooTokenBad, sudo fdisk -l06:57
ubotuwell, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto06:57
nanotubefunkymint: what kind of project are you talking about?06:57
funkyMiNTahh06:57
funkyMiNTanything06:57
windowfultritium, Except for the brute force issue, which is solved by not having a dumb password (back to stupidity) what?06:57
cafuegofunkyMiNT: Do a mail merge in OpenOffice.org 206:57
funkyMiNTi dont know what to do with ubuntu now that i have it installed06:57
nanotube!rootsudo06:57
ubotuI guess rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root06:57
funkyMiNTi installed FF 1.506:57
TokenBadthanks everyone06:57
tritiumgnudreamer, I used tvtime and xawtv, I believe.  It was quite some time ago06:57
funkyMiNTthat was interesting06:57
funkyMiNTi installed gnome-art06:58
funkyMiNTset the root pass06:58
nanotubewindowful: check out that rootsudo link for a pretty decent explanation of the ubuntu sudo model.06:58
Timberwolf_42Ok Dumb question #1 Is there a default location where image files such as the background images used for ubuntu are stored?06:58
anavim!webcam06:58
ubotuI guess webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.06:58
gnudreamerI will try those..mostly just playing with some hardware from my old winblows bo06:58
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funkyMiNTi am getting some crazy error saying "unable to copy user's xauthorization file" when i try to go into user and groups06:58
gnudreamerbox06:58
tritiumfunkyMiNT, punctuation in place of repetetive line feeds is always nice06:58
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, /usr/share/pixmaps ... /usr/share/wallpaper i think? something like that06:58
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nanotubefunkymint: well, its a computer... do whatever you usually do with a computer :)06:58
windowfulnanotube, I just did, that's what I'm coming back from06:59
cafuegoTurn it off and go for a swim. Much better for you.06:59
rixthfunkyMiNT, look at the wiki page..... it mentions that06:59
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, in command line you can do locate wallpaper and it should give you paths that you can look into06:59
nanotubewindowful: ah ic :)06:59
tritiumwindowful, you're definitely entitled to your opinion.  I'm not keen to argue the point.06:59
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RickBauerare the forum pages down?07:00
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Timberwolf_42Aha!07:00
Timberwolf_42I now have a blue background lol07:00
Timberwolf_42<-- easily amused07:00
RickBauerlol07:00
bimberi!forumsdown07:00
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DarkSenayhow do you su to root in the gui?07:00
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, art.gnome.org ... check out stuff in there ... check out system/preferences/theme07:00
RickBauerbimberi  ty07:01
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, right click on desktop, change bckgrnd ... some fun stuff07:01
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bimberiRickBauer: yw :)07:01
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frogzooDarkSenay, sudo -s07:01
Azunaiok its official ive just had to completley reinstall ubuntu07:01
Timberwolf_42no no don't want to mess with the desktop07:01
Timberwolf_42Its fine07:01
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frogzooDarkSenay, but not really recd'd under x07:01
AzunaiKde screwed my entire system07:01
windowfultritium, Allow me to rephrase that as a question:  Is there any genuine security issue that sudoers helps with *other* than the brute forced password issue?07:01
tritiumAzunai, that was likely not necessary07:01
RickBauer<-- ITSa341 in hiding  ( forgot my password ) thanks for the help the other night also bimberi07:01
holy_cowAzunai, rofl :)07:02
DarkSenayyeah, i need to be root in the gui07:02
DarkSenaynot in term07:02
bimberiRickBauer: ah, np :)07:02
cafuegoDarkSenay: yeah, 'sudo <command>' when logged in as user.07:02
cafuegoDarkSenay: Works fine for X commands too.07:02
cedriczgyou mean be root at nautilus?07:03
Azunaino really it was07:03
Azunaii rebooted07:03
RickBauerbimberi   I never did figure it out. Had a power failure while running fsck and ended up reloading anyway. :-(07:03
nanotubedarksenay: what exactly do you wanna do as root in the gui?07:03
Azunaiand my pc froze on something like Teting batery wtf us that about07:03
tritiumAzunai, it likely could have been fixed without reinstall07:03
Azunaihow i coulnt even get to ubunto login07:03
borisattvadoes anyone have a link to a good SMB/fstab guide? my eyes are bleeding from reading through inapplicable results on google07:03
gnudreamertritium   would you mind glancing at this?07:03
holy_cowAzunai, all of that is usually an easy fix07:03
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gnudreamerhttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750807:04
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Timberwolf_42Woo hoo07:04
tritiumwindowful, you'll get both sides of the argument, depending on who you ask07:04
PraduKHi, do you guys know where I can get the x-window header files and libraries?07:04
holy_cowAzunai, it is fine to reinstall as a newb if you want to, eventually you will get to the point where morally it's imperative to be able to resolve it without a reboot/reinstall tho :)07:04
windowfultritium, I know the argument against sudo, what's the argument for sudo over su -c?  I know why sudo over su07:05
tritiumPraduK, xlibs-dev07:05
Azunaiholy_cow, ok but can u explain why my pc got stuck and froze on Testing Batery?? and y the hell is it testing for a batery in the first place unbutnu didnt do it only kubuntu :S07:05
cafuegoDo you think you should be compiling software if you don't?07:05
frogzoowindowful, all sudo access is logged...07:05
PraduKYes07:05
RickBauerbimberi  Some advise needed. What do you recommend for an easy to use ( backing up and restoring  LOL ) backup program? Preferably something graphical that can be automated07:05
frogzoowindowful, also, sudo has finer grain control07:05
PraduKjust tell me caf07:05
gnudreamertritium   would you mind glancing at this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750807:06
holy_cowAzunai, i would need a lot more info about your hardware config and overall situation, i'm assuming everything is working now and therefore its  question that cannot be answered07:06
tritiumgnudreamer, I am looking at it now07:06
frogzooRickBauer, tar will suit most tasks - but no gui07:06
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gnudreamertritium thank you07:06
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PraduKI need it to compile xboard so that I can use it with my chess engine07:06
RickBauerfrogzoo ty07:06
tritiumgnudreamer, you're sure your card is supported by bttv?07:06
PraduKhttp://witz.sf.net/07:07
cafuegoPraduK: Well, apt-file would be a good place to start.07:07
fangoriousthe homepage for gnome-bluetooth shows a context-menu in nautilus to "send via bluetooth" but I don't seem to have that, any ideas how to enable it?07:07
PraduKI tried07:07
windowfulfrogzoo, got it07:07
PraduKit wasn't found07:07
frogzooRickBauer, if you want incremental backups it gets more complex07:07
tritiumPraduK, I told you the package name07:07
PraduKoh07:07
PraduKlet me see above07:07
nanotuberickbauer: check out the backuppc package07:07
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RickBauernanotube ty07:07
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gnudreamertritium, when i search my card on google it comes up in lists of bttv supported cards, but it never specifies which card number and tuner number it uses07:08
Azunaiholy_cow,  no its only working cus i reformated and reinstalled so no kunbuntu system is amd athlon xp 3200+ ATI X850XT PE GC 3gb Kingston hyper-X ram Asus mobo 500 wat psu there was no error the machine just locked up every time i rebooted with the message Testing Batery (when its first loading all the modules in the kernel?07:08
PraduKthanks tritium I totally missed yoru IM07:08
gnudreameraitech wavewatcher pci07:08
nanotuberickbauer: though read the web documentation before installing... its pretty heavy on the dependencies. may or may not be what you are looknig for.07:08
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gnudreamerzoran chipset07:08
netdurpaltalk client for gnome?07:08
nanotuberickbauer: i think its a sourceforge project. so backuppc.sf.net should take you there. if not, google :)07:08
RickBauerI'm used to ghost, goback and retrospect07:08
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holy_cowAzunai, it just means that kernel module was attempting to install and probably crashed.  all you haveto do is add it to the black list in /etc and reboot and you would be good to go07:09
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tritiumgnudreamer, I have to get going now.   Good luck.07:09
gnudreamerthanks :)07:09
tritiumgood night07:09
Azunaiholy_cow, how i couldnt do anything it froze before i could even get near the console login? i even tried hitting esc for grub options and all of those did hte same?07:10
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frogzoonanotube, there's a backuppc pkg for breezy - installing now07:10
holy_cowAzunai, one would enter grub and do it from there, or run a live cd and do it from there07:10
nanotuberickbauer... i dont know if there is anything ghost-like...07:10
Timberwolf_42Ok I have to register somewhere?07:10
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tonyyarussoIs there an easy way to draw a keyboard map for a font?  It's ttf.  (Non-Latin characters, I need a reference.)07:10
Azunaiholy_cow, i dont have the live cd :P i have the main install cd :D07:10
holy_cowTimberwolf_42, register for what?07:10
nanotubefrogzoo: yes, i know there is a package. i was recommending he read the documentation before installing that package. but well, have fun, and let me know if you are successful setting it up. :)07:11
Azunaiholy_cow, anyways apt-get install Kubuntu-Desktop for kubunti aint it?07:11
Timberwolf_42I don't know lol I tried to send a message to netdur and something cam eup in the main window about registering07:11
Timberwolf_42I saw a blip about a paltalk client?07:11
holy_cowAzunai, so what i am getting here is that you are intersted in proving that you are totally incapable of solving the problem?  i'm just suggestion options ...07:11
RickBauernanotube  If not I'll just have to learn something else. I like to experiment and tend to break things sometimes.  LOL I'm just getting tired of haveing to start over from the beginning.07:11
slavikwhat can I use to sync/access my pocketpc in linux?07:12
Azunaiholy_cow, im incapable of using linux at the minuite lol07:12
Toma-how do you remove a module and all its deps? eg, if rmmod returns "module in use"07:12
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Azunaiholy_cow, but that will change :)07:12
Azunaiholy_cow, rapidly :D07:12
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h2theizzocould someone help me with hosts?07:12
holy_cowAzunai, heh, so you have it solved or not?07:12
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nanotuberickbauer: yea, such is life. :) for now my backup is basically burning stuff to cd once in a while. ;)07:12
slavikh2theizzo: could you state your problem?07:12
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h2theizzosure07:12
Azunaiholy_cow, hell no i just reinstalled lol gunna try and install kde again apt-get install Kubuntu-Desktop right?07:13
h2theizzowww.broken-pipe.net is a registered domain07:13
h2theizzoand it points to my IP07:13
holy_cowAzunai, correct07:13
h2theizzonow my ubuntu runs apache207:13
nanotubeazunai: just stick with gnome, you will have an easier time of it!07:13
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slavikAzunai: why not get the kubuntu install cd?07:13
Azunainano really?07:13
h2theizzobut the host name is as follows, 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu07:13
malikyoexcuse me for asking this but is grep usually a slow thing07:13
slavikh2theizzo: right07:13
RickBauernanotube I'm learning this slowly and having trouble doing it.07:13
h2theizzoi want it to say www.broken-pipe.net07:13
h2theizzoi dunno how to change it07:14
h2theizzoand theres a catch07:14
slavikI get a 404 for that address.07:14
Azunaislavik, because when i downloaded it from unbuntu site it was only downloading at like 90kbs so i just went for the fastest download :P07:14
nanotubeazunai: since you claim to have no linux experience, i would recommend gnome for you. kde is more of a "power user" interface, more difficult to use than gnome.07:14
RickBauernanotube   but, I'm still having fun07:14
holy_cowAzunai, you have the choice of a kubuntu cd as mentioned, but in all honesty there is no difference.  its just installing a different group of packages by default07:14
h2theizzolol well i needa update the domain07:14
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Azunainanotube, but it looks cool :D07:14
slavikAzunai: no commend then ...07:14
h2theizzodood is sleepin that has control of it07:14
gnudreamerhow does one unload a module?07:14
slavikh2theizzo: well, the hosts file should be in /etc/07:14
slavikmore specifically, it should be the /etc/hosts07:15
h2theizzoueah07:15
h2theizzoi can edit it07:15
h2theizzobut07:15
Azunaiholy_cow, i just like the way kde looks and theres so many themes for kde based on films tv series etc i cant seem to find any for gdm07:15
h2theizzoive changed it to www.broken-pipe.net07:15
nanotubeazunai: though if you really insist on using kde, probably what slavik recommends about getting the kubuntu cd will be easier. (though shouldnt make a diff, since it didnt work for you before, better do the cd)07:15
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h2theizzoand then the system wouldnt respond to well07:15
slavikthe hosts file is only for your system ...07:15
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h2theizzoyeah07:15
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RickBauerAzunai  I am a newbie also and I tried the kubuntu cd on this laptop. Sure runse faster with Gnome.07:15
holy_cowAzunai, whatever you like07:15
h2theizzothing is, that pc is on a nat07:15
RickBauerruns07:15
nanotuberickbauer: fun is the most important :) well, having a working system is pretty important too, but you know what i mean.07:15
h2theizzoso the pcs ip is 192.168.0.307:15
slavikyou want to set that url to 127.0.0.1?07:15
user1anybody can help?07:15
slavikset it to the loopback IP07:15
h2theizzono07:15
Azunaislavik, na ur right il downlaod the kubuntu cd just incase i need it :)07:16
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user1how can i install Yahoo Messenger on my ubunto?07:16
AzunaiRickBauer, hmmm07:16
slavikuser1: use gaim07:16
h2theizzowhat?07:16
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user1are they looks the same?07:16
h2theizzohang on07:16
nanotubeaaah hehe h2theizzo: then you have to configure your router to forward the port07:16
slavikyes07:16
nanotubeh2theizzo: otherwise it will not work07:16
h2theizzoits already forwarded07:16
user1how can i get the gaim?07:16
h2theizzomy ip changed07:16
Azunaiok general question for a complete imbosile who knows as much about linux as he does about astro physics what is the best desktop manager to use gdm?07:16
h2theizzoso www isnt pointing to me yet07:16
malmeidahi07:17
slavikuser1: if you are using ubuntu 5.10, it's installed07:17
mitrovarrdoes anyone know if you get a performance boost by running the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the general 386 one?07:17
slavikapplication -> internet -> gaim :)07:17
holy_cowAzunai, the one designed for it, metacity07:17
nanotubeuser1: gaim is installed by default on ubuntu. just open up your applications menu, ... yea slavik already beat me to it :)07:17
h2theizzobahaha07:17
h2theizzoim lost07:17
slavikHA!07:17
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Azunaiholy_cow, metacity? apt-get install metacity-Desktop?07:17
slaviknanotube: some day, not only will I be faster than you, I will also give more correct answers ^^07:17
slavikh2theizzo:07:17
user1will my yahoo address can comuunicate with me in here?07:17
h2theizzoi cant change my ip on the ubuntu to match the www.broken-pipe.net ip cuz im on the nat07:17
slavikyou have apache2 running, correct?07:18
h2theizzoyeah07:18
nanotubeh2theizzo, well, just wait til the domain points to the correct ip. in the meantime, test it by going directly to ip rather than using the domain.07:18
h2theizzoi can goto 192.168.0.307:18
slavikh2theizzo: open your web browser07:18
holy_cowAzunai, its installed by default, don't be messing with that shit :) play with kde before you go switching window managers07:18
h2theizzok07:18
slavikok, so that ip works?07:18
nanotubeslavik: :)07:18
h2theizzoyeah 192.168.0.307:18
RickBauernanotube  I bought this particular laptop just for ubuntu so dependable was not supposed to be  important during the learning curve. But, then lightning got past my ups and surge suppressor so my windows machine is down.07:18
rafaelis somabady install limewire on ubuntu07:18
slavikok07:18
rafael???????????????????07:18
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galgozIf I choose to uninstall something in synaptic and it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop also? does that mean what I think it means??!!07:18
slavikso you want to set that ip to the address?07:18
h2theizzono07:18
motoi'm running warty ubuntu here, i'd like to install 5.07:18
slavikgalgoz: ubuntu is not a real package07:19
moto5.107:19
nanotubeh2theizzo: 192.168 is your internal ip. it is not reachable from the outside. you have to set your domain to point to your external ip - the router's ip.07:19
user1how can i create account in gaim?07:19
holy_cowAzunai, if you want an entirely cool experience, let me find you a great debian based install with enlightenment, that will knowck your socks off.... e17 can have a movie as a desktop background for example07:19
slavikmoto: 5.1 doesn't exist07:19
holy_cowsec07:19
h2theizzowww.broken-pipe.net will point to my ip of 71.36.110.216 tomorrow07:19
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motoi'm running warty ubuntu here, i'd like to install 5.1. but cant figure out how to burn a bootable cd07:19
Azunaiholy_cow, i like kde :P it just froze my machine last time i think il stick with gnome for a while though could use a good theme site as the default gdm kinda looks a little how to put this not to my taste07:19
slavikuser1: select an account type (MSN)07:19
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slavikuser1: fill in the username and password and save.07:19
galgozslavik: so it is safe to proceed07:19
user1how about in yahoo?07:19
PolerisHi - I was wondering how to permanently spoof a MAC address so it doesn't change on bootup. If you can help me, please msg me. :)07:19
slavikgalgoz: from what I've been told, yes.07:19
nanotuberickbauer: ooh, wow... quite a coincidence.well, since you are up to the point of worrying about backups, you are probably already way on your way to having a working system :)07:19
h2theizzoSlackwise07:20
h2theizzoer07:20
Azunaiholy_cow, omg cool but there is one big issue it needs to support ati cards and have high perfomance for gaming :P07:20
galgozslavik: I like your anser :)07:20
h2theizzoslavik can u msg me07:20
galgozproceeding07:20
slavikgalgoz: my understanding is that ubuntu-desktop is there to require a load of other packages, some which maybe be useless.07:20
h2theizzosquelch is turned down :P07:20
galgozslavik: and I am wanting to remove some of them07:20
slavikh2theizzo: what do you want to do?07:20
motocan anyone direct me to a site for burning bootable CDs? i have the ISO already07:20
galgozslavik: I was just afraid it would remove all of them07:20
Azunaiholy_cow, really u dont need to go looking for more distro's etc im happy with ubuntu (its my first sucsessfull linux install :D)07:20
h2theizzolemmy start over07:20
holy_cowAzunai, drivers have nothing to do with your desktop environment.  a driver is a driver is a driver, all that matters for drivers is kernel version07:20
Azunaiholy_cow, thats true :P07:21
holy_cowhttp://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/About/  <-- check this out if you like eye candy07:21
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slavikh2theizzo: what are you trying to do with your ip and the address?07:21
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holy_cowe17 has some video demos online that are cool too07:21
Azunaiholy_cow, for now il stick with KDE07:21
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RickBauernanotube I sit here and collect url in my bookmarks folder. some good howto's posted in here. helps with the learning curve   LOL  and I do require some help there right now.07:21
hkaishi07:21
hkais!+fakeroot07:21
ubotuhkais: Some people juggle geese07:21
slavikyou want to set the address to point to 168.x.x.x?07:21
Azunaiholy_cow, instead of installing Kubuntu cant u just apt-get KDE?07:21
nanotuberickbauer: hehe, well, you are in the right place for help :)07:21
oceandeadgalgoz it is safe to remove ubuntu-desktop (its a metapackage) - but it is advised to reinstall it before upgrading next ubuntu release07:21
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holy_cowAzunai, why are you interested in linux? just curious07:21
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h2theizzowww.broken-pipe.net will point to my real ip of 71.36.110.216, the apache2 is on my box and works now, what i want to do is change the host from 127.0.0.1 localhost localdomain ubuntu, to whatever ip i need since im behind the nat,and make it says www.broken-pipe.net07:22
holy_cowAzunai, well you just did, kde-desktop or whatever it is07:22
galgozoceandead, by doing the apt-get?07:22
holy_cowAzunai, you can also aptget e17 too i think07:22
galgozcoeandead, easy enough07:22
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Timberwolf_42Awesome07:22
slavikh2theizzo: there is no reason to do that ...07:22
hkais!+fakeroot07:22
ubotuhkais: I don't know, could you explain it?07:22
Azunaiholy_cow, for me personaly its a learning curve i like to learn new things and its something different im sick and tired of having to reformat windows xp every month because of its inability to perfom as an os07:22
hkais!+find fakeroot07:22
ubotufakeroot: (Gives a fake root environment), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.5.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 88 kB, Installed size: 332 kB07:22
Timberwolf_42I'm rockin now figure dout I can get here via gaim also07:22
slavikwhen the dns lookup happens ... it first looks in hosts file(s), the goes to the dns servers07:22
holy_cowAzunai, there are a lot of desktop environments out there, somve extremely light and easy to run even on the crappiest hardware (of which you don't seem to have an issue with except that you run ati)07:23
h2theizzoah07:23
h2theizzok07:23
h2theizzoalso07:23
h2theizzospeaking of DNS07:23
slavikoutside people won't see the page anyway07:23
Timberwolf_42Hi there Holy cow07:23
slaviksince the global dns is pointing to the wrong ip07:23
h2theizzowell07:23
holy_cowAzunai, ah, after a while you will be able to fix anythin on ubuntu, shouldn't ever need to reformat, expect its common while learning07:23
h2theizzoit wont be tomrrow07:23
frogzooholy_cow, there's nothing wrong with ati with the fglrx driver07:23
oceandeadlinux has made me lazy in a way - i feel spoiled i dont have to spend umpteen hours running scans for malware07:23
Azunaiholy_cow, im seriously thinking about getting that duel nvidia card thing and putting 2 nvidia 512mb cards on it :P07:23
h2theizzomy ip changed today and so everything hasnt got updated07:23
Azunaifrogzoo, wanna bet mate07:23
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slavikh2 once a change to the dns is amde, it is said to take upto 72 hours to propogate through all dns servers07:24
h2theizzoi coudlnt find a dns daemon package07:24
holy_cowfrogzoo, talk to the hand brotha :) i run heavy 3d apps, ati is a joke. period.  end of discussion.  if anyone runs ati they aren't using it to its full potential07:24
Azunaifrogzoo, if theres nothing wrong with ati with the fglrx drivers then why doesnt it seem to like my card?07:24
frogzooAzunai, I'm running on 2 ati cards 9700 + x85007:24
wizardjamesis http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down?07:24
h2theizzowizardjames i couldnt get there either07:24
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slavikh2theizzo: if you have a dynamic ip, look into dyndns.org (or .com I forget which)07:24
galgozwizjames: they will be back soon07:24
wizardjamesok..then i am not losing my head.07:24
gbleemanyone have an idea on this: The root terminal in the applications menu won't work.07:24
nanotubeh2theizzo... well, what you really want to do, since you are behind the nat: have your domain point to your "real" ip, then have your router forward port 80 to your internal nat ip (the 192.168...), and have your apache listen on the correct interface. (but its been a long time since ive set up apache... go to apache.org homepage for help)07:24
sirbijanhi everybody07:24
galgozwizjames: fixing an erro07:24
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h2theizzowell i have a domain through wox.org07:24
h2theizzoit only takes a few minutes07:24
sirbijanit's about 2 days I can't open www.ubuntuforums.org07:24
sirbijanwhat is wrong?07:24
frogzooAzunai, which model?07:24
holy_cowfrogzoo, i'm canadian and by all rights i should want to actually support ati, them being canadian ...07:25
wizardjamesah ok, thats good..    theres a repos i was lookin at that i want..07:25
sirbijancan you guys open it?07:25
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Azunaiholy_cow, i disagree well in windows i use 3dmax and play alot of games so high end performance is a must and in windows ATI beats nvidia hands down!07:25
nanotubeh2theizzo: but you just have to wait until the dns record updates wit hyour new ip. oh well, nothing to do about that.07:25
h2theizzoi let my friend have control of it he is home more then i07:25
Azunaifrogzoo, ATI X850XT PE07:25
gbleemcan someone change the topic to a message about the forums?07:25
h2theizzohmm07:25
h2theizzodoesnt look like theres any ops07:25
encompassI don't know nvidea makes a card that is pretty high end07:25
Azunaiholy_cow, but thats in windows not linux07:25
holy_cow... but the fact is that they have ALWAYS had garbage drivers on windows, and always very late with driver dev on windows ... i expect no less of such stellar development on linux as has been proven by many pople over the years on all platforms07:25
slavikh2theizzo: dyndns has clients that will monitor your ip and send a change request, and they allow you to use your own domain, check the site for more info07:25
sirbijanhey nanotube07:25
slavikbeen a long time since I looked at it07:26
holy_cowAzunai, if windows support sucks, it is guarnteed that linux support is worse, its just the way it works07:26
frogzooAzunai, holy_cow I only do 2d, so mebbe there's a 3d prob I've not seen, but otherwise, rock solid07:26
nanotubeh2theizzo: if your ip changes a lot, like slavik says, dyndns might be a good bet.07:26
nanotubehowdy sirbijan07:26
sirbijanyou said that dns thing about ubuntuforums.org?07:26
h2theizzoheh07:26
whyameyeIf a program says it is tailored for IA-32 does that mean it will run poorly on an Athon processor even with a 32 bit OS?07:26
holy_cowAzunai, sorry dude, if you use ati for 3d, you don't do 3d for a living.  no offense.07:26
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sirbijanhi nanotube07:26
h2theizzoit hardly ever changes07:26
galgozdnydns is a good service07:26
sirbijannobody seems to answer me07:26
Azunaiim not interested in support from them thats y i believe strongly in comunities07:26
RickBauerbbiab07:26
slavikwhyameye: Athlon is x8607:26
nanotubesirbijan: no, that was not about ubuntuforums. ubuntuforums are just down for now.07:26
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nanotube!forumsdown07:26
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)07:26
h2theizzoits changed once in 9 months07:26
sirbijanwhy nanotube ?!07:26
mitrovarrwhyameye:  I don't think so, AMDs 64 bit processors were designed to run 32 bit emulation very well07:27
slavikwhyameye: tailored to IA32 would mean that it was optimized better if you asked me.07:27
profso i'm trying to get the native resolution of my lcd working, which is 1280x768. i tried googling it and i can get it to run it, ithink, but about 1/5 of it goes off the side of my monitor. i'm using this guy's line that he uses for his laptop, whose LCD is the same native res. i'm using Modeline        "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795. my problem is that i have no idea what the numbers mean, so i don't know how to07:27
proftweak it07:27
sirbijanthen where can I ask my questions/ see previous questions?!07:27
nanotubeaccording to the bot, sirbijan, they are moving to new servers.07:27
Azunaiholy_cow, no i dont i do it for fun and with my setup ATI seems to render faster and it gets better benchmark results than an nvidia alternative07:27
slavikmitrovarr: that's x86 ... not ia3207:27
sirbijanouch07:27
slavikia32 is different :)07:27
profany ideas would be appreciated07:27
nanotubesirbijan: ask your questions here... seeing previous questions - you are out of luck for now. they will be back up soon07:27
nanotube!tell sirbijan about forumsdown07:27
Azunaifrogzoo, yeah 2d isnt a problem my card is too "state of the art" for the crapy ati drivers to detect07:27
slavikathlon64 doesn't emulate x86 (32bit version) either, it can run that code antively ... since x86-64 is simply an extension.07:27
sirbijanoohoom, thank you!07:27
holy_cowAzunai, heh, no it gets marginally better benchmarks for gamers.  gamers opinions don't count as generally they know nothing about hardware.  admit it :)07:27
sirbijanok, this is the first question nanotube07:28
sirbijanI don't have a fast internet connection at home07:28
sirbijanbut I have one at work07:28
slavikholy_cow: I would disgagree07:28
encompasscan anyone tell me what is going on with the ubuntu forums... For some reason it seems to be down ALOT lately....07:28
sirbijanso, I'm looking for a way to download my packages at work, and then install them at home07:28
h2theizzoencompass they are moving the servers07:28
nanotube!tell encompass about forumsdown07:28
profit's those darn unstable linux servers, encompass07:28
sirbijanbut I don't have synaptic/apt-get in there07:28
slavikprof: lol07:28
h2theizzoyeah07:28
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whyameyeslavik, mitrovarr: so it sounds like I can still expect reasonable performance on an Athlon processor, even if the code is "tailored for IA-32?"07:28
holy_cowslavik, all games do :)07:28
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h2theizzoneed a real server like windows nt server 3.5107:28
eli!tell eli about forumsdown07:29
sirbijanso, I basically don't know how to get a package with ALL ITS DEPENDENCIES!07:29
encompasscool thanks07:29
slavikwhyameye: you should07:29
Azunaiholy_cow, no that is true but i play alot of games and i enter tournements for money so ATI and AMD are a must have in my opinion and experiance Intel work beter with nvidia AMD with ATI07:29
mitrovarrwhyameye:  It should be fine.  Are you sure it's a 64 bit athlon, to begin with?  Not all are.07:29
slavikwhyameye: if you ask me, tailored means that it was optimized more ... but the binary has to be whatever the CPU can process07:29
Linuturkubuntu forums down?07:29
sirbijancan I PM you nanotube ?07:29
whyameyemitrovarr: yep.07:29
encompassfunny, cause AMD has a deal with intel07:29
sirbijanthis is place looks really crowded!07:29
Azunaiholy_cow, and as u will no doubt know no person that does 3d animation or 3d graphical design for a living would have a AMD chip they would choose intel07:29
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PolerisHi - I was wondering how to permanently spoof a MAC address so it doesn't change on bootup. If you can help me, please msg me.07:29
slavikmitrovarr: if it's athlon64, then it's 64bit :)07:29
holy_cowAzunai, nonsense, thats arbitrary crap information.  you need to forget all of what you just said.  what you are really pointing out is that ati is comming out with slightly faster products than nvidia in recent times07:30
h2theizzopfft07:30
h2theizzoyeah right07:30
holy_cowall the rest you said is crap.07:30
h2theizzoget the amd dual core 4400+07:30
h2theizzothat will blow the shit outta intel07:30
h2theizzo2mb cache07:30
mitrovarrI know someone who DOES do 3d amination and graphical design, and he uses both.  Sometimes one's ahead, and sometimes the other is.07:30
gbleemLinuturk: someone said 10am eastern forums should be back up.07:30
h2theizzo1000mhz fsb07:30
h2theizzopff07:30
mitrovarrslavik:  I know that, but he didn't specify07:30
sirbijannanotube: can I PM you? this place looks really crowded!07:30
encompassfunny... I think my celeron 700 with 200mb ram is bloody fast!07:30
slavikh2theizzo: 2MB cache is simply delaying the problem07:30
malikyoare the fsb's up to 1ghz now?07:30
h2theizzoyeah07:30
h2theizzoheh07:30
slavikproblem being: RAM IS TOO SLOW, but that is offtopic07:30
holy_cowalso the amd comment really points to the same fact as the ati comment, amd is simply comming to market with faster cpus than intel these days, and virtually own the 64 segment, for all sorts of reasons07:31
h2theizzoi put my money on amd any day07:31
nanotubesirbijan: i am really not experienced with apt-get, so couldnt give you any good advice about it. (i am just 3 weeks into ubuntu), so i suggest you ask someone with more knowledge of apt-get.07:31
h2theizzobut thats personal opinion07:31
h2theizzo:P07:31
encompasscan we get back to ubuntu help07:31
mitrovarrhas anyone here compiled their own kernel in ubuntu?  I tried, but I had some strange errors07:31
h2theizzointel might be better07:31
nanotubebut you can pm me if you want anyway, sirbijan :)07:31
Azunaiholy_cow, LOL slightly hmm 3d benchmarks based on intel and ati suck compared to intel and nvidia amd and nvidia benchmarks are around 90fps slower than when placed with intel chips yet the AMD and ATI combo out performs intel and nvidia by over 200fps07:31
mitrovarrholy_cow:  I'd say AMD is way ahead in the dual core arena, too07:31
sirbijanthank you nanotube , you're soo cool07:31
h2theizzoyeah Azunai07:31
Azunaiholy_cow, and in games 200fps is the diference between been seen and not been seen07:31
sirbijannobody seems to answer here nanotube !07:31
h2theizzohave you tried the SLI 7800GT PCI-EXpress 16's07:31
encompasseveryone feels like flaming07:31
sirbijanexcept you ofcourse!07:31
h2theizzo220fps07:32
encompassI don't like going here for answers anymore07:32
slavikh2theizzo: offtopic, please.07:32
nanotubesirbijan: they are just too involved in their little discussion about which hardware is the best :) be a little persistent, ask a few times over, and someone will pick it up. :)07:32
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holy_cow*cough* you read too many benchmark tests.  its easy to scew those things, its far easier to misunderstand them.07:32
Azunaih2theizzo, not if there system is corectly built but as holy_cow said there is very few gamers that know hardware well07:32
robotgeekhardware discussion ot #ubuntu-offtopic please07:32
sirbijanotay nanotube , I will do it, but later, coz right now I'm so hungry, I should go for some snack!07:32
sirbijanthank you anyway07:32
slavikencompass: if you get a compile error ... I run from those ...07:32
sirbijanone more thing nanotube07:32
Azunaiholy_cow, it is if u misinterperit the info or dont know how to read them07:32
nanotubesirbijan: good luck, have fun :)07:32
encompassif you want a good gamer go to sun micros systems07:32
nanotubesure, whats up sirbijan07:33
rti just tried an ubuntu 5.10 live cd w/ my box which has a ati express 200 video chipset, x didn't init properly.   am i going to have difficulty getting it to work w/ a real install?07:33
encompassthet have a good computer and it is amd07:33
holy_cowAzunai, at this point i think we are saying the same thing :)07:33
sirbijanany cool sites I can get cool themese for my ubunto in there?07:33
mitrovarrhas anyone here compiled their own kernel for ubuntu?  I compiled one, but I'm getting strange errors about devfs when I try to run it.07:33
MickMcMackIf you want power, buy an Azul...07:33
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slavikrt: your report worries me, as I have an xpress200m based laptop on the way07:33
encompassrt it could happen... but it is fixable07:33
Azunaiholy_cow, maybe but the fact is ATI and AMD are made for gamers nvidia cannot and willnot compete in the gaming comunity07:33
malikyoI used to use AMD chips until I switched to MacOS07:33
encompassslavik: I have that too... it is not a problem07:34
slavikrt: have you tried installing the ati drivers?07:34
encompassati works07:34
holy_cowAzunai, what did you say you are, 21?07:34
slaviksweet07:34
rtjust tried the live cd to ascertain whether it worked or not.07:34
holy_cowi guess you don't remember how nvidia became nvidia then07:34
Azunaiholy_cow, 22 nxt month07:34
slavikencompass: a laptop with 200?07:34
mitrovarrrt:  have you tried giving the livecd some cheat codes at boot?  They have lots of codes to adjust laptops to hopefcully work.07:34
encompassif at the worst you can start with just FB driver and go from there07:34
frogzoosirbijan, install pkg art-manager & you can pick & choose your themes07:34
nanotubesirbijan: hmm, well if you are running gnome, you can pick up a bunch of themes from gnome.org, afaik07:34
Azunaiive been doing computer shit since i was like 5 years old07:34
encompassno... with the ati chipset07:34
rthaven't bitten the bullet of installing for real yet (probably won't tonight, too late to start, have to work tomorrow)07:34
encompassshuttle zen07:34
sirbijanthank you both frogzoo and nanotube07:34
slavikencompass: no built in video?07:34
sirbijanI will do that07:34
sirbijansee ya07:34
sirbijanbubye07:34
encompassyes built in07:34
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sirbijanquit07:34
slavikencompass: did you test the shipped driver vs the ati driver?07:35
h2theizzoslavik, do u know of a good website, that has a list of .confs i can tweak, and probly a good explanation of the stuff in  the .confs?07:35
encompasssearch newegg for the shuttle zen07:35
holy_cowAzunai, okay, who was the majour graphics card player that owned the gaming market before nvidia?07:35
encompassthat is my computer I am getting07:35
MickMcMackVoodoo!07:35
encompassit works very good in Linux07:35
galgozdiamond07:35
slavikh2theizzo: if I knew of a site like that, I'd be richer than bill gates ;)07:35
h2theizzolol07:35
encompassvoodoo now those were the days07:35
h2theizzoright07:35
mitrovarrI miss 3dfx07:35
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encompassme too07:35
Azunaiholy_cow, owned LOL voodoo07:35
h2theizzoi had the voodoo3 pci07:35
h2theizzoawesome07:36
encompassI have an overclocks voodoo 507:36
Azunaiholy_cow, they were awesome07:36
encompassyummy07:36
slavikencompass: presario v2000z07:36
mitrovarrI have a voodoo 1 pass-through card on a computer here07:36
TheBeastvoodoo used to be video cards?07:36
mitrovarrscrews up x07:36
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malikyodid anyone buy 3dfx or they just went under?07:36
MickMcMackI had a BBC. x)07:36
slavikTheBeast: in the ancient times, yes.07:36
h2theizzonvidia no?07:36
encompassslavik: cool07:36
Azunaiholy_cow, i think Nvidia baught out 3dfx07:36
slavikTheBeast: the best of their time, too07:36
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TheBeastthen nvidia took teh lead right?07:36
encompassnvidea bought their tech07:36
slavikAzunai: they did07:36
h2theizzoslavik u have the persario v2000z?07:36
slaviknvidia bought the company07:36
Timberwolf_42Ok I have heard that the beta release of gaim now supports voice chat does anyone know the validity of this?07:36
holy_cowAzunai, exactly, then nvidia owned the gaming market for about 6 years or so07:36
slavikh2theizzo: not yet07:36
slavikshipping on tuesday :D07:36
holy_cowuntil about 2000 or so07:36
h2theizzoi have the sr1300nx and the sr1620nx07:37
holy_cowwhen ati started to blow past them in fps07:37
TheBeastTimberwolf_42 it doesn't suport shit07:37
h2theizzox64 on the 162007:37
mitrovarrI'm curious about the gaim beta too... from what I heard it rather sucked07:37
Azunaiyeah untill ATI came on the seen with the ATI 9800 series since then ATI have been the leader in the gaming market and continue to "own"07:37
holy_cowto say that nvidia is not competing in the gaming market is really to admit that you haven't paid attention, nvidia was the name you used up to about 200007:37
h2theizzohmm07:37
slavikmine is with a sempron, from what I read, they should have 64bit by now07:37
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Timberwolf_42I had some problems trying to get it installed so I gave up on it07:37
encompassmitrovarr: that is your opinion... it has alot of new things that you can't see yet07:37
h2theizzoslavik yes they do07:37
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MickMcMackNvidia still have the fastest board, afaik.07:37
encompasslike how it work on the inside07:37
h2theizzoi can vouch for that07:38
holy_cowAzunai, exactly so dont say stupid stuff like nvidia doesn't compete, they do very well07:38
h2theizzoand as for ati owning07:38
h2theizzohah07:38
malikyodoes anyone know if the new mactels have 64bit chips in them07:38
h2theizzothe ps3 isnt out yet07:38
slavikh2theizzo: makes those 2 64bit ubuntu cds not a wasted downlaod :D07:38
mitrovarrencompass:  Well, I haven't tried it, but I was hoping for video and sound chat, and from what I heard it doesn't have video at least.07:38
encompassouta here07:38
TheBeastit will be out in the next 2 months07:38
encompassyeah07:38
TheBeastand I'm going to get one07:38
holy_cowwhether or not they will manage to compete against ati, who knows, thats another question07:38
h2theizzobut it has the nvidia card in it, wich is faster then any card yet07:38
TheBeastcan't wait for it07:38
slavikmalikyo: I think so ... they are new intel chips, too07:38
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Azunaiholy_cow,  i dunno nvidia have had some good cards i used to have the Nvidia Geforce 3 TI man that was a card :) but still they cant compete against ATI and when the ATI crossfire is realeased nvidia will be blown out of the marcket07:38
encompassthey have others that can do that... but that is not gaims priority to have multimedia07:38
h2theizzoread up on the card :P07:38
encompassjust chat07:38
mitrovarrfrom what I've seen ATI and Nvidia are basically neck and neck, like they've been for years07:38
TheBeasthave you heard about the xboxes that used to melt? live overheating & stuff?07:38
Azunai*market07:38
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malikyoI know they're new, but they never stated if they're 64bit07:39
TheBeastI've actually seen one07:39
slavikgalgoz: I'd say yes, but I read of a problem that required 32bit os to get ndiswrapper to work07:39
malikyoI would hope they are07:39
h2theizzoprobly a matter of opinion07:39
MickMcMackEh, the Xfire is already out.07:39
slavikbecause there was no 64bit version of the driver for the card07:39
Azunaiwho said something about an os for gaming before?07:39
MickMcMackAnd it doesn't perform _that_ well, according to the vast majority of benchmarks.07:39
holy_cowAzunai, based on your rather faulty requirements, i wouldn't support shit product and shit drivers from a company like ati even if they did run games faster07:39
holy_cowyour simply rewarding crap07:39
h2theizzoim spending 230 dollars on a bfg tech 6600 OC monday07:39
galgozslavik: and if I am not using ndiswrapper?07:39
holy_cowin which case you get what you deserve, for example, trying to install ati drivers on linux ... :)07:39
TheBeasth2theizzo you can get a better card for that ammount of money07:39
h2theizzooh yeah?07:40
TheBeastmaybe a 680007:40
nanotubehey everyone, azunai, mitrovarr, holy_cow, would y'all please stop discussing gaming hardware? all your off topic traffic makes it difficult to see anything on-topic.07:40
galgozslavik: i was just scared that there would be lots of issues07:40
h2theizzohook me up with a link brother07:40
Azunaiholy_cow,  maybe the drivers are shit but.. if u buy from saphire there drivers are alot better no one uses the official ati drivers07:40
h2theizzohehe07:40
slavikgalgoz: it depends on the windows driver for the card07:40
Azunaisorry07:40
h2theizzothat was off newegg07:40
TheBeasth2theizzo see newegg.com07:40
h2theizzoits gotta be AGP though07:40
h2theizzoyeah thats where i got it07:40
TheBeastyou're in US, right?07:40
h2theizzocourse07:40
h2theizzooregon07:40
mitrovarrnanotube: ok07:40
TheBeasth2theizzo well, if it's gotta be agp sorry07:40
TheBeast:)07:40
h2theizzohaha right07:40
nanotubemitrovarr: thanks :)07:40
TheBeastheh07:40
h2theizzoill get sli next year07:40
h2theizzotax returns07:40
h2theizzo:P07:40
galgozslavik, what depends on the windows driver?07:41
Azunaiholy_cow, can u give me the link to the wiki site plz? for the ati install?07:41
TheBeastlol @ sli07:41
mitrovarrso does anyone know if it improves performance to run the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the generic 386 kernels?07:41
slavikgalgoz: the way it was ... 64bit os, 64bit ndiswrapper, no 64bit windows driver07:41
TheBeastwhat's so cool about sli?07:41
h2theizzoheh07:41
h2theizzodood07:41
galgozslavik07:41
h2theizzoits dual video cards07:41
nanotube!tell azunai about ati07:41
h2theizzoon 1 monitor07:41
galgozslavik, ah, ok07:41
TheBeastso?07:41
timfrost!ati07:41
uboturumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=1007:41
holy_cowAzunai, topic is  your friend07:41
slavikso the guy said to use 32bit os, 32bit ndiswrapper, 32bit windows driver07:41
h2theizzotwice the fps07:41
TheBeastI know, it's power07:41
h2theizzoexactly07:41
TheBeastbut with one fx 4500 you can beat anything07:41
h2theizzolol07:41
h2theizzodoubt it07:41
TheBeastI game on a workstation videocard here07:41
Azunaithanks07:41
h2theizzofx isnt that good07:41
TheBeastdude, the fx quadro07:41
Azunaiholy_cow, topic?07:41
galgozslavik, so if i don't use any windows drivers I am ok07:41
h2theizzooh?07:41
h2theizzohmm07:42
TheBeastit's liek $250007:42
slavikh2theizzo, TheBeast: #ubuntu-offtopic07:42
TheBeastare you nuts?07:42
TheBeast:D07:42
h2theizzojesus07:42
slavikgalgoz: should be07:42
h2theizzoi was thinking like the 5200 fx and 5500fx07:42
holy_cowAzunai, they just gave you the link, follow, topic for channel however gives you most all resources you need07:42
slavikgalgoz: that is the only problem I read about with 64bit os07:42
galgozslavik, converting will require a format and reinstall correct?07:42
Azunaiahhh ok :)07:42
Azunaicool thanks07:42
slavikgalgoz: probably07:42
mitrovarrhas anyone here compiled their own kernels to use with ubuntu?07:42
h2theizzolol i cant get 2 + 2 to equal 4 on linux07:42
h2theizzolet alone compile a kernal07:43
h2theizzo:\07:43
Azunaiok stupid question maybe but with kernels u need to be carefull or so im told so according to wiki i need to update the kernel should i or should i skip that step?07:43
slavikgalgoz: the funny part is that anandtech had an article about gcc 3.3 optimizing 32bit code better than gcc 4.0, while gcc 4.0 did that for 64bit code.07:43
mitrovarrI made one compile but I get bizarre errors when I try to run it.  It tries to run, but not really07:43
frogzoomitrovarr, there's a pkg for kernel builds - haven't done it, though should be straightforward07:43
slavikAzunai: I'd update everything, but that's me07:43
Azunaih2theizzo, i learned alot installing gentoo but nothing that worked in gentoo works here :)07:43
mitrovarrAzunai:  unless you have specific problems or just want to learn about them, I wouldn't mess with them.07:43
Azunaislavik, ok thanks :)07:43
h2theizzolol07:43
galgozslavik, well, I have gcc 3.3 and 4.0 installed and run the one I need anyways07:43
h2theizzoyeah i did gentoo also07:43
h2theizzoon my emachine07:44
h2theizzotook me over a week07:44
galgozslavik, some aps require gcc 3.3 to compile correct07:44
h2theizzoto friggin complicated07:44
TheBeasth2theizzo no, see http://www.nvidia.com/page/qfx_uhe.html07:44
mitrovarrfrogzoo:  You mean kernel-package?  I found out about that after I made it.07:44
slavikgalgoz: was about to say that07:44
TheBeastquadro fx whatever07:44
h2theizzook TheBeast07:44
whyameyeAzunai: it's no big deal to patch the kernal using ubuntu's module assistant, and if the directions say to do it...they probably have a reason...07:44
Azunailol took me 2 days man and i was stressed to hell cus after all the install i couldnt get X to work :(07:44
h2theizzogoing there now07:44
frogzoomitrovarr, lol - 2 late now07:44
Azunaiwhyameye, ok thanks :)07:44
galgozslavik, I am kinda proud I even install this with as little linux exp as I have07:44
mitrovarrfrogzoo:  well, I can always make another one07:44
h2theizzoTheBeast07:45
slavikgalgoz: trust me, you are not far behind me on *nix experience :)07:45
h2theizzoisnt that for graphics applications and stuff07:45
TheBeasth2theizzo yes?07:45
h2theizzoi need something for high end gaming07:45
mitrovarrfrogzoo:  I tried just following standard kernel-making procedure but it gives me a lot of strange errors on boot07:45
TheBeastyes it is. but you can game on them as well07:45
h2theizzobf2 and so on07:45
galgozslavik, where you at?07:45
TheBeastgraphics applications lol07:45
slavikI am staff seargent :)07:45
h2theizzohehe07:45
h2theizzoi have 3ds studio max 807:45
slavikand have almost all basic combat badges :)07:45
h2theizzonever really used it07:45
mitrovarrfrogzoo:  It does actually boot, but I'm worried I might be missing key system drivers or something.07:45
galgozI am a Specialist07:45
slavikI had 21 knife kills once07:45
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h2theizzolol jeez07:46
Azunai3dsm is great hard to get to grips with but fantastic program07:46
slavikhttp://bf2s.com/player/gslavik/07:46
frogzoomitrovarr, erghh... it's just a kernel, strange - check dmesg07:46
slavikwith 1 shock paddle kill07:46
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MickMcMackDon't use 3dsm, use Blender!07:46
slavikcould've had expert knife ...07:46
johndarkhorse!offtopic07:46
ubotuhmm... offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!07:46
galgozhehe07:46
h2theizzoyour win to lose ratio is off :P07:47
slavikyes07:47
slavikback to ubuntu then07:47
h2theizzoheh07:47
h2theizzolol07:47
h2theizzoyeah07:47
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Azunaiok time to reboot so my X server wont load and i have to re-edit the damn xorg.conf file be back in 5 :)07:47
anavimvim is way better than emacs!  oh wait, #ubuntu-offtopic07:47
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holy_cowAzunai, dude07:47
holy_cowyou don't need to reboot07:47
Azunaiholy_cow,  yeh?07:47
holy_cowrebooting will do EXACTLY NOTHING07:47
Azunaisays i do on wiki?07:47
anavimlisp is way better than... oh, whoops again07:48
Azunaiholy just reboot x?07:48
holy_cowif x doesn't load rebooting wonts solve it07:48
holy_cowcorrect07:48
slavikAzunai: yes07:48
slavikAzunai: linux is not windows ;)07:48
Azunaiok ctrl +alt +bksp :D07:48
galgozguess I need to download the 64 bit install07:48
Azunaislavik, ive noticed ;P07:48
h2theizzoyeah format /q c: /y07:48
h2theizzoO.o07:48
holy_cowAzunai, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart07:48
mojo_I have a multi-boot question... hda = 30G, hdb=60G; GRUB on MBR of hda boots Ubuntu, which lives on hdb.  I want to install WinXP Pro on hda.  What is the best way to go about this?  BTW hdb has one active ubuntu and one for testing, so i can re-install ubuntu on the alt part. on hdb if needed for this to all work07:48
Azunaibe back in 5 when x dont load again07:48
Azunaiohhh new commands :P07:49
Azunaibrb07:49
holy_cowAzunai, don't forget you can change the driver back to vesa07:49
holy_cow*sigh*07:49
Timberwolf_42too late lol07:49
holy_cowis it any wonder windows is a virus wonderland?07:49
slavikmojo_: I'd read the grub doc on installing stuff07:49
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cyphasewhat's everyone think of the idea of having a central feed aggregator?07:49
holy_cowlol :)07:49
slavikmojo_: it is likely that winxp will overwrite the mbr07:49
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slavikcyphase: for what?07:50
holy_cowcyphase, well if i could figure out why in the world i would need a feed in the first place ... :)07:50
nanotubemojo_, well, one thing you can be entirely sure of is that the win xp pro install will wipe out your grub from hda mbr, so that you will have to boot from cd to restore it.07:50
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mojo_slavik: yeah, i figured it would.  that is why i guess i may have to install a ubuntu into the testing partition on hdb after installing xp on hda.07:50
Timberwolf_42How difficult is it to have three operating systems on one computer with two hard drives?07:50
slavikmojo_: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html07:50
mitrovarrmojo_:  Before you start, you might want to install grub on a floppy so you can boot if something goes horribly wrong07:50
nanotubeslavik: hey, you are picking up speed! :)07:51
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slavikTimberwolf_42: not very, since one guy got like 60+ OS on a system07:51
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mojo_nanotube: but installing ubuntu after will set grub up for xp dual boot, AND my other (primary) ubuntu install, no?07:51
frogzooTimberwolf_42, you can have 3 OS's on just 1 hard drive - easy07:51
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slavik10 version of windows, 10 dif version of linux distros ...07:51
mitrovarrTimberwolf_42:  That depends on the operating systems and the size of the drives07:51
Timberwolf_42Would it be best to install grub on a floppy instead of the mbr?07:51
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cyphaseslavik, it could manage all the updating of feeds, provide a central list of feeds, allow for system-wide manipulation of feeds, etc07:51
slaviknanotube: I need to slow down ...07:51
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mojo_mitrovarr: horribly wrong = livecd or techie's boot cd ;)07:51
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holy_cowTimberwolf_42, like anything else, if you know how to setup a bootloader and what each os needs then its easy, usually finding anything more than linuz/windows dualboot info is really esoteric in hard to look up07:51
nanotubemojo_ i would think that grub would autodetect your xp, and both your ubuntus07:51
slavikcyphase: in what topic though? what would it feed?07:51
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Timberwolf_42I tried awhile back to install fedora and ubuntu and wxp but had no luck07:52
mojo_nanotube: that what i am hoping here07:52
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nanotubemojo_ but since i have not actually run 2 ubuntus at the same time, i dont know for sure :)07:52
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mitrovarrmojo_: yeah but with a grub floppy you can get your own personal grub setup, not have to muck around booting things manually07:52
nanotubemojo_ i only run xp + 1 ubuntu.07:52
EightiesK#kubunyu07:52
slaviknanotube: I need to sleep soon, heh07:52
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frogzooTimberwolf_42, always install doze 1st, then give redhat & ubuntu their own / & /usr partitions & you're good to go07:52
cyphaseslavik, what do you mean?07:52
nanotubeslavik: heh me too. whats your TZ?07:52
mitrovarrTimberwolf_42:  Boot floppies are nice for backups, or if you just want an OS for a little while to play with, but if you want it long term you'll want it on a boot sector.  Floppies are the most unreliable storage method known to man, after all.07:53
slaviknanotube: est07:53
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mojo_nanotube: yeah i run ubuntu 32bit, but have another part for ubuntu 64bit to play with and another for what will be an lfs07:53
ejofeeafter i run lilo from mandriva, i can boot into windows; after i run lilo from ubuntu (same /etc/lilo.conf file, adapted), i can't boot into windows. why?07:53
slavikcyphase: will it feed slashdot, or digg, or catfood, or what?07:53
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nanotubeslavik: me too. i guess we both are in need of some sleep.07:53
cyphaseslavik, you're kidding right?07:53
galgozmojo, why don't you just install the 64 bit version, is there a problem with it?07:53
nanotubemojo_: heh interesting. :)07:54
mojo_nanotube: the xp is so i can play empire earth iii, need for speed, halo, ya know.  Win2k was okay but now EE wants XP07:54
slaviknanotube: I don't need sleep, but classes start on thursday ... need to get used to sleep before 12midnight07:54
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Timberwolf_42I have an 18 gb hard drive that I currently hve ubuntu installed on.. if I decide to install fedora on this hard drive also will I have to remove all the data I currently have  if I wish to keep any of it?07:54
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slavikcyphase: no ... you never sauid what the feed was for07:54
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Bushitohey... How can I get "snapshot"?07:54
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nanotubeslavik: your semester starts pretty late. mine has already started last tuesday.07:54
cyphaseslavik, it's a feed aggregator..07:54
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slavikoh, ok07:54
slavikmust've missed that part07:54
cyphaselol07:54
slavikcyphase: start cding07:54
slavikcoding*07:55
slavikchop chop07:55
cyphaseslavik, i'm planning to07:55
slavikcode doesn't write itself ^^07:55
Azunaiok how do u find out if a certian piece of hardware is compatible with ubuntu?07:55
cyphasebut i wanted to get everyones opinion on it07:55
ejofeeafter i run lilo from mandriva, i can boot into windows; after i run lilo from ubuntu (same /etc/lilo.conf file, adapted), i can't boot into windows. why?07:55
Bushitois "snapshot" out already?07:55
mojo_nanotube: & slavik: okay i'll just give this a spin.  if i have probs i can always manually config grub to get me in ubuntu.  i just have never been able to *manually* config grub to boot windows myself.07:55
slavikAzunai: there should be a list of compatability somewhere07:55
cyphaseand see if anyone had any ideas07:55
mitrovarrAzunai:  Well, some things are more likely to work than others.  What is it?07:55
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anavimBushito: you mean dapper drake snapshot 3? yes07:55
Azunaislavik, google is my friend :D07:55
nanotube!tell azunai about hardware07:55
mojo_ttfn - we'll see how this works.07:56
slavikAzunai: that's the spirit!!!07:56
Azunaimitrovarr, ATI X850 XT PE07:56
nishanthey guys07:56
nanotubemojo_ i have not tried that before either. ..07:56
slavikI decided to found a new religion.07:56
nishanti am new to ubuntu07:56
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MickMcMackslavik, can I be the high priest? :o07:56
slavikgoogle is the god in the religion ...07:56
nanotubemojo_ good luck :)07:56
mojo_nanotube: well i'll report back if u r still here.  :)07:56
mojo_nanotube: thanks07:56
nishantCud u tell me how do i make totem work???07:56
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nanotubeslavik: i do not think thats a new religion. :)07:56
slavikMickMcMack: only if you have a hot sister ;) with certain parameters07:56
mitrovarrAzunai:  I guess in that case I'd go to ATI and check the readme for the fxgl drivers for linux.  I'm sure it will work in some capacity, and I'd guess that acceleration will probably work, but no guarantees, since I don't use ATI.07:56
frogzooslavik, yours is a jealous god :D07:57
mojo_bbl!!07:57
ejofeecould somebody please paste for me the contents of a /etc/lilo.conf which allows access to a windows xp partition?07:57
nanotubemojo_ hopefully not, cuz i need sleep :) but maybe i wil see you some other day07:57
Timberwolf_42Rephrase: Is it possible to resize a hard drive that has ubuntu installed on it so I can add another os?07:57
MickMcMackslavik, :D!07:57
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slavikTimberwolf_42: in ubuntu, there is a tool for that07:57
Bushitoi mean Ubuntu snapshot07:57
nanotubenishant: what kind of files do you want totem to play?07:57
slavikTimberwolf_42: it comes default, look around in the menus ...07:58
Azunaina man this card is crap for this is07:58
Azunai*os07:58
nishantany format like avi, mpeg ,mpg etc07:58
Azunaido diferent distros support diferent hardware?07:58
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nanotubeejofee: sorry, ubuntu uses grub by default, so most if not everyone here probably uses grub. did you try google?07:58
slavikAzunai: could be07:58
frogzooTimberwolf_42, man resize2fs - never used it myself though....07:58
mitrovarrAzunai:  Yes and no, they have different drivers, but you can get almost any driver for almost any OS.07:58
slavikI know that freebsd has a central compatability list.07:58
nanotubenishant: you will want to open up synaptic package manager, and search for "gstreamer"07:58
mitrovarrAzunai:  Err, distro, not OS.07:58
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ejofeenanotube: grub doesn't want to load windows at all! any idea why?07:58
nanotubenishant: that will bring up a list of a lot of plugins07:58
Azunaimitrovarr, lol ok thanks that doesnt make me feel good tho ::(07:59
slavikejofee: grub is doing you a favor ;)07:59
nishantwhere do i find this manager???07:59
nanotubeejofee: no clue, i am running a dual boot with ubuntu and winxp pro, on grub, with no probs...07:59
nanotubeslavik, azunai: check out !hardware07:59
nanotube!hardware07:59
ubotuit has been said that hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport07:59
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ejofeenanotube: is grub2 better than grub?07:59
frogzooTimberwolf_42, or just use gparted08:00
Azunainanotube, already have done and guesse what no luck :(08:00
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Bushitois "snapshot" out already?08:00
Bushitoi mean Ubuntu snapshot08:00
nanotubenishant: you will have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories in order to see a lot of the gistreamer plugins. you do that by going settings>repositories>click add button08:00
nanotubenishant: when you are in the synaptic package mgr.08:00
Timberwolf_42Ok I see the tool thank you08:01
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Azunai!harware08:01
ubotuAzunai: I haven't a clue08:01
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profalright, so i got my resolutions right, and i have dual monitors set up. but not the dual monitors i want. I'd like to be able to drag things between monitors, but it won't let me. anyone want to help me out or give me a starting point to figure out how to do this?08:01
mitrovarrnanotube:  is it a good idea for him to even use gstreamer?  I didn't have any luck running most files until I moved to xine.08:01
nanotubeejofee... no idea. the grub that comes with ubuntu 5.10 works well enough for me, and i never bothered to learn more about it :)08:01
slavik!hardware08:02
ubotu[hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport08:02
slavikdon't mispell :)08:02
nanotubemitrovarr: well, yea, i installed vlc, mplayer, and xine, cuz totem kinda sucks. but... does work reasonably once you have all those plugins, though i dont use it myself much. :)08:02
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fangoriousanyone having trouble getting to ubuntuforums.org?08:02
yigal-epwall the time08:02
nishantI cannot find the setting button????08:02
mitrovarrnanotube:  I've had really great luck with xine and kaffeine, it even plays wierd things like nsv2, most real formats, and some wmvs08:02
holy_cownanotube, remove tote-gstreamer and install totem-xine and w32codecs08:03
nanotubemitrovarr: never heard of kaffeine. is that a kde app?08:03
slaviknanotube: prolly08:03
nanotubemitrovarr: for me vlc and mplayer work well...08:03
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mitrovarrnanotube:  of course I had to go codec hunting.  Yeah, kaffeine is KDE.  Totem is good too, I just like Kaffeine's interface, and I use a remote with irkick to run it from across the room.08:03
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Azunaihmm says on some forum about editing a hexedit module what does that mean?08:03
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robanyone know why there is a pygtk source package, but no binary in the repos (I'm assuming it might be called something else)?08:03
nanotubeholy_cow: hmm... maybe i will try that. mitrovarr: i have no remote :(08:03
yigal-epwwhat is up with ubuntuforums why is it down so often?08:03
slavikprof: have you tried google?08:04
mitrovarrnanotube:  remote control, lirc, irkick, and ess.tv... too much fun :-)08:04
nishantHey Nano Tube ????08:04
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nanotubemitrovarr: hehe yea. i am having enough fun keeping up in gradschool. if i had all those toys, it would be the end of me. :)08:04
nanotubenishant: whats up08:04
profi've tried. i'm not exactly sure what to search for08:04
mitrovarrnanotube:  I'll have to remember that when I hopefully go in a year08:05
nishantI cannot find this settin button???08:05
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fangoriousyigal-epw: no idea, although i don't think i've seen it down for so long i had to ask on irc08:05
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slavikprof: "dual monitors in linux" brings up some guides for gentoo/mandrake, see if those help08:05
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mitrovarrslavik:  still can't believe there isn't a good app to set that stuff up easily in X08:05
nanotubefangorious, yigal-epw: see this:08:05
profi have the basic dual monitor set up. i'm just not sure how to get it so that i can drag a program from monitor to monitor08:05
nanotube!forumsdown08:05
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nanotubemitrovarr: yea, indeed. :)08:06
slavikmitrovarr: you mean configuring x?08:06
Candymanprof, have you tried Brightside?08:06
mitrovarrprof:  What are you using?  Xinerama, nvidia/ati's special drivers, or seperate screen configs?08:06
slavikmitrovarr: linux lacks a lot of easy configuration things08:06
nanotubeslavik: still here eh? :)08:06
slavikgoing to go sleep now ...08:06
profi'm using ati's driver08:06
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mitrovarrslavik:  yeah, to set up dual monitors and stuff.  If I could code I'd do it myself, I can just SEE the app. :-p08:06
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slavikaparently, by being quiet I am keeping half the building awake :-\08:06
profno, i haven't tried brightside. haven't heard of it08:06
fangoriousthanks nanotube08:06
mitrovarrprof:  and you can't just drag from one to the other?08:07
profno08:07
slaviknight all08:07
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profit's 2 different desktops, basically. the mouse can travel back and forth, but nothing else08:07
nanotubesay holy_cow, where does one get w32codecs? its not in universe or multiverse...08:07
fangoriousanyone know if nautilus-sendto in dapper has bluetooth support?08:07
mitrovarrprof:  that sounds like two discrete screens.  That's the way I used to have it set up08:08
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nanotubenishant: did you open up synaptic package manager?08:08
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fangorious!binaryformats08:08
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ubotuBugger all, i dunno, fangorious08:08
wizardjamesi have a prob,   i got two harddrives,    one with windows , the other with ubuntu i dont use duel boot. but i can easyly switch the cords around for what i want to boot.  now this is the first time i have tryed to hook both harddrives up, with the ubuntu one being the main.     it gets to the loading screen then it says mountng root file somethin or other then just hangs there..08:08
profif i use the extended desktop setting in fglrxconfig, though, it's just one big desktop that goes through both. so if i wanted to maximize a program it would go across both of them, which isn't what i want either08:08
nishantdats wat i am askin???08:08
Candymanprof: I don't know if it'll work for you, but I use it to traverse workspaces08:08
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nishanthow do i open it???08:08
mitrovarrnanotube:  http://ubuntuguide.org has instructions for w32codecs08:08
eli!winmac08:09
ubotuNo idea, eli08:09
nanotubenishant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto08:09
eli!winmac_fstab08:09
ubotueli: I give up, what is it?08:09
mitrovarrprof:  you might try xinerama08:09
mitrovarrprof:  but if the native ATI drivers don't work, I don't know what to do.  I use nvidia, and their native drivers work really well.08:09
profok, i'll look into it08:09
profthanks08:09
AzunaiGod damn! why are the forums down08:10
Candymanyep, no problem08:10
elii just installed an ati driver08:10
Candymanhope it works for you08:10
eliit worked like a charm08:10
Azunaii bet you the answer to my problem is on the forums08:10
mitrovarrprof:  oh, one other thing, I think window manager might matter, so it might be worth trying KDE if you use gnome, or gnome if you use KDE08:10
profhm. ok08:10
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anavimhmmm... what happened to the ubuntu wiki how-to-get-help page?08:10
nanotubethanks mitrovarr08:10
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mitrovarrprof:  the window manager has to be conscious of the long screen/dual monitor configuration to act intelligently, you see.  Yours isn't which is why you're getting maxamized across windows and such.08:10
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nishantyup i opened Synaptic->Repositiories08:11
mitrovarrprof:  I don't get that with the nvidia twinhead driver.  It's probably just a matter of my x server detecting my setup and not yours.08:11
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nishanti have to add now i guess???08:11
fangoriousanyone using dapper?08:11
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nishantbut how to??08:11
wizardjamesubuntu fails to boot when i add my other harddrive.  why would this happen?08:11
nanotubenishant: yes, click add, and check the two checkboxes for universe and multiverse, nad click ok08:11
mitrovarrwizardjames:  Are they set to cable detect or master/slave?08:11
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anavimnm ,I found it08:12
nanotubenishant: and then you can search for gstreamer in packages08:12
Candymanwizardjames: it's probably changing the device numbering, which would throw off grub08:12
ejofeewizardjames: everything else boots, except for ubuntu?!08:12
wizardjamesmitrovarr,  its SATA harddrives,    (ubuntu sees them as scsi.. )08:12
nanotubenishant: and install whichever ones you want08:12
profi'm not sure if my window manager can be concious of anything. where do i download that program ;)08:12
nishantokie wait08:12
mitrovarrwizardjames:  Oh... I don't know anything about SATA.  But I think the guy is probably right about drive numbering.08:12
wizardjameswell, ubuntu boots..it just hangs when it says its monting dev..or something, forget what it was08:12
Azunaialright in everyones opinion if i wanna play 3d games like hl2 quake3 etc whats the best linux distro to get?08:12
Candymanhmmmm...that's weird08:12
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CandymanAzunai, maybe gentoo08:13
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CandymanI hear they have packages for a lot of those08:13
mitrovarrAzunai:  Well, I know I've made games to work in ubuntu, and it seems to work pretty well.  Mine are ut2004 and neverwinter nights.08:13
Candyman...but then again, if you're going to game heavily you don't really want to be using Linux08:13
wizardjamesgentoo..  what fun that is,   its great.. just to install it you need alot of skill..08:13
CandymanI use 2k4 in Ubuntu, also08:13
mitrovarrAzunai:  Gentoo is probably better, but it's god-awful to install.08:13
mitrovarrAzunai:  I took one look at the installation procedure and ran like hell08:14
Candymanhehe08:14
mitrovarrCandyman:  Do you have the problem that it fails to run if your desktop is in a lower res than the game is set to?08:14
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nanotubeazunai: unfortunately, windows. :|08:14
mitrovarrCandyman:  like if I set it to 1600x1200 and my desktop is 1024x768 it won't run.  It's easily worked around, but annoying.08:14
Candymanmitrovarr: never tried it...don't get good enough framerates to bother with 2k408:14
Candymanlemme check really quick08:15
Azunaimitrovarr, ive installed gentoo before but couldnt get Xserver working08:15
nanotubewell guys, im off to get somme sleep. ttyl08:15
wizardjameshmm, so any ideas what to do, when i add my other harddrive it just hangs.  i could restart and try it and see what the message is..write it down maybe..lol     would that help08:15
Azunaimitrovarr, took me 2 days :P08:15
Azunaigentoo i think is the answer :)08:15
nishantThanx NanoTube08:15
Azunaiemerge is such a nice command :P08:15
nanotubewizardjames: yea, write it down, and then google it. probably will come up with something useful08:15
nanotubenishant: no prob. ttyl08:16
nishantU were a Great help08:16
wizardjamesrite, well i will be backl08:16
nishantbbye08:16
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nanotubenishant: you are welcome. ;)08:16
mitrovarrAzunai:  Well, if you have the skill to optimize it and get it running, it's probably better.  If you can't something easier might be in line.  I don't know why you're looking to linux for a gaming OS, though... your choice in games will be limited.08:16
Candymanmitrovarr: Actually, I apparently can't select any resolutions higher than my desktop rez to run it at08:16
Candymanmitrovarr: ...either that or it just doesn't want to run in 1600x1200 at all08:17
mitrovarrCandyman:  Oh yeah, that too.  You have to set your desktop higher, than set the game higher, than drop the desktop to make it not run.  I forgot about that.08:17
Candymanmitrovarr: Well then don't do that. :-P08:17
BAkihi, i've been using ubuntu for a while and i like. i wanted to implement ubuntu in our school here in the philippines.08:17
mitrovarrCandyman:  it's obnoxious, because I run the gave at 1600x1200 (good video card) but my desktop at 1024x768 (don't wanna go blind)08:17
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Candymanmitrovarr: You can turn up the font sizes ;-)08:17
BAkiI just have one problem, does the ubuntu team have something publish like an easier training manuals for secondary students?08:18
holy_cowhi BAki that sounds cool08:18
Azunaimitrovarr, because believe it or not my bro has some linux installed his hardware isnt as good as mine he lives like 5 mins away from me yet on WOW and CSS he gets better fps than me in windows and a lower ping thats y :)08:18
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mitrovarrCandyman:  I've tried that, and DPI settings, websites just don't implement them well enough to work08:18
darkraideri did a new install and typed "sudo root"08:18
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Azunaimitrovarr, also all the shit assosiated with windows isnt an issue :P08:18
GKJI am back everyone08:18
mitrovarrAzunai:  How's he play WOW with linux?08:18
Candymanmitrovarr: ahhhh...fair enough08:18
Candymanmitrovarr: Cedega?08:18
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mitrovarrCandyman:  last I checked it didn't work right08:19
mitrovarrCandyman:  I haven't tested it, although after MUCH MUCH effort I FINALLY got Cedega to compile from CVS.08:19
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Azunaimitrovarr, same way he plays all his other games either wine or cedega08:19
Azunaiwhat release do i want its x86 right?08:19
anavimAzunai: you're on the same ISP as your brother?08:19
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GKJWho installed Ubuntu recently08:19
Azunaianavim, yup08:19
CandymanAzunai, what kind of processor do you have?08:19
holy_cowBAki, have you looked into edubuntu? ... other than that i don't think anyone has published such a manual.  perhaps you can contribute one ... perhaps even get your students to help you write one?08:20
mitrovarrGKJ:  I installed it a couple of days ago, but not for the first time.08:20
CandymanGKJ: How recently?08:20
AzunaiGKJ, me about 40 mins ago08:20
darkraideri can not get into root i did a new install i went to the command line and typed "sudo root" it prompted me for a password i put in a password and I still cant "su root" it tells me bad password08:20
GKJhi, mitrovarr08:20
AzunaiCandyman, AMD athlon xo 3200+08:20
GKJhi, Azunai08:20
Azunai*XP08:20
GKJYou both are I need08:20
abeeehey all08:20
mitrovarrhi08:20
AzunaiGKJ,  hey man sup?08:20
CandymanAzunai, you want the x86 version08:20
BAkihahaha. that's far beyond reality here.08:20
abeeei am using linux right now..a dn really so confuse in using it08:20
AzunaiCandyman, thanks :)08:20
Candymannp :-)08:20
GKJAzunai, what do you do then?08:21
BAkiour students here are only primary and secondary level.08:21
abeeefrist.. could anyone here teach me how to set the layout in linux ?08:21
AzunaiGKJ, what do u mean what do i do?08:21
GKJAzunai: as I know, the system is quite simple one and have only a few functions08:21
Candymandarkraider, there is no root user08:21
holy_cowBAki, indeed, then look into edubuntu and help the project and create one your self.  it's hard for a FREE project to take everyones into account08:21
darkraideri need root08:21
Candymandarkraider, use sudo -s instead of su root08:21
AzunaiGKJ, dude if ur asking questions about ubuntu i am the wrong person to ask trust me :P08:21
GKJAzunai, what do you do with Ubuntu, that is, what kind of work do you want it to complete08:21
BAkiI just would like to acquire a copy (if possible) of a training manual which much thinner that most books published.08:22
holy_cowBAki, i already told you, there is none08:22
AzunaiLOL downloaded 60mb in 12 secconds lol08:22
BAkiahahhaha.08:22
mitrovarrBAki:  You could always print the online docs08:22
BAkiok. thanks.08:22
GKJAzunai, you are modest, I am a absolutely a newbie in Ubuntu, I think everyone here can be my teacher08:22
darkraiderwill doing sudo -s enable me with root access08:22
mitrovarrGKJ:  What are you trying to do?08:22
mitrovarrdarkraider:  Yes08:22
J-_errr, java's not working... how do i enable it for firefox.... i've went to the restricted formats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats changed the reposities used sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it still doesn't work...08:22
nishantHey How do we use apt-get?????08:23
BAkithe manuals are more on the operating system itself.08:23
AzunaiGKJ, all i want from my os is for it to be diferent and support my hardware look good and work fast and work well with cedega :)08:23
nishantcud neone tell me???08:23
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darkraiderwhat should i put if it prompts me for a password08:23
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mitrovarrdarkraider:  your user password08:23
GKJmitrovarr: I want to typeset my articles and download video and audio and chatting on the net and do some math job08:23
BAkii need a manual for the openoffice and most of the applications in the system.08:23
GKJmitrovarr: is it too much for Ubuntu08:23
AzunaiGKJ, an os to me is just a gui that i can play about with till i get bored and to play games on thats all i want from an os :)08:23
mitrovarrGKJ:  http://ubuntuguide.org will help you set up a lot of things08:23
BAkihahaha.08:23
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Azunaiok i just downloaded the gentoo install cd? how do i burn it with linux?08:24
holy_cowBAki, go back to windows, no such thing exists here08:24
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GKJAzunai: the os is for fun?08:24
BAkiic.08:24
CandymanAzunai, do you have k3b installed?08:24
mitrovarrGKJ:  I don't know much about typesetting under linux.  Chatting is certainly possible.  Video and audio work well.  Math, I don't know about, depends on the specific task and whether software exists08:24
darkraiderok one more thing where is ndiswrapper installed at (I cant get online in ubuntu untill i setup my wlan08:24
varsendaggeri just played halflife on cedega08:24
AzunaiGKJ, for me its just a tool that looks good and thats it08:24
mitrovarrGKJ:  First of all, chatting is easy.  What protocol do you use to chat?08:24
varsendaggeron ubuntu08:24
mitrovarrvarsendagger:  How well did it work?08:24
GKJmitrovarr: thanks for the site, I will browse it and if any question, I will bother you, hope you are available :p08:24
AzunaiCandyman, no man im running gdm so ..08:25
mitrovarrwhat does everyone think of automatix?08:25
BAkiholy_cow, thanks.08:25
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varsendaggeri have 128 mb of ram and a shit vide card so i don't really have a good way to judge08:25
GKJmitrovarr: latex works perfect under linux, so it is the main reason I want to migrate from windows to linux08:25
J-_errr, java's not working... how do i enable it for firefox.... i've went to the restricted formats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats changed the reposities used sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it still doesn't work...08:25
CandymanAzunai, I think Ubuntu ships with a burner app (but I'm using k3b with gdm)08:25
mitrovarrGKJ:  Great.  I didn't know you knew how to use latex, I wouldn't exactly point the general population at it :-)08:26
varsendaggermitrovarr, yeah you should download the demo from transworld and give it a shot08:26
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GKJmitrovarr: I want to use irc client to chat and gaim, math job will use matlab08:26
holy_cowjust a stab in the dark, anyone here manage to get lispbox running under ubuntu? nothing on google that is even in english on this topic08:26
CandymanAzunai, try GnomeBaker or Coaster perhaps08:26
mitrovarrGKJ:  Sounds like you have all those tasks nailed down, then08:26
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GKJmitrovarr: ok, I will turn to other for help, but thanks all the same08:26
AzunaiCandyman, which one will burn an iso file?08:26
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mitrovarrGKJ:  For audio and video, that guide should explain how to get the codecs.  I recommend Xine and Kaffeine.08:27
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darkraider mitrovarr: did you get my message08:28
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GKJmitrovarr: thanks for your recoomendation, I will google them and download to try08:28
CandymanAzunai, GnomeBaker can; dunno about Coaster (never used it)08:28
mitrovarrdarkraider:  Yes, and I responded08:28
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Azunaidownloading gnomebaker now :)08:28
mitrovarrdarkraider:  did you get those messeges?08:28
CandymanAzunai, nevermind about coaster...looks like they never released a stable version of it and there's no Ubuntu package08:29
mitrovarrAzunai:  For cd/dvd burning tasks, I like K3B myself08:29
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holy_cowAzunai, why are you using linux tho if you want to play games?08:29
darkraiderno08:29
holy_cowwe're not exactly 'there' when it comes to 'high end' gaming support08:29
mitrovarrdarkraider:  You can get ndiswrapper in synaptic.  It doesn't have to be downloaded.08:29
GKJmitrovarr: entertainment is not the first thing I will take care of, math work and typeset will be first08:29
darkraiderty let me try now  mitrovarr08:30
Azunaiholy_cow, because my bro has a distro of linux and uses wine / cedega combo and gets higher fps and lower pings than me same isp he lives like 5 mins away from me and his hardware isnt as good as mine08:30
Azunaiholy_cow, so i wanna try it :)08:30
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holy_cowAzunai, thats bizarre08:30
CandymanAzunai, he shouldn't be TBH08:30
mitrovarrAzunai:  I wouldn't change OSs for pings08:30
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mitrovarrAzunai:  Bad pings are probably not the OS's fault.08:31
jlduggersort of estoeric question: I installed the vgabios package -- where did it put the files?08:31
CandymanAzunai, his pings might be a bit better, but the hardware support is not as good as in Windows08:31
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holy_cowCandyman, that statement is inaccurate... it08:31
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holy_cowit's highly dependend on hardware08:31
mitrovarrjldugger:  you can go into synaptic, select the installed package, and right-click on it, go to properties, and then go to the 'installed files' tab to see them all and where they went.08:32
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AzunaiCandyman, i know man08:32
phos-phorosis it just me, or is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ inaccessible08:32
wizardjamesok, i am back, the error..or more or less when it started to hang with the other harddrive attachted to the motherboard was    "mounting root file system"08:32
Azunaimitrovarr, as a matter of interest when was the last time u used windows?08:32
woodywartyHi all08:32
mitrovarrAzunai:  Half an hour ago, to play Neverwinter.  I didn't have enough disk space on my linux drive to keep it there.08:32
woodywartyHow do I colorize my Bash shell output ?08:32
dan_woodywarty: hi08:32
Candymanphos-phoros, they're down until tomorrow08:32
jlduggermitrovarr, thanks!08:33
mitrovarrAzunai:  That was my other computer, though, this one's been running linux for weeks08:33
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phos-phorosCandyman, thanks08:33
Candymanwelcome :-)08:33
Azunaimitrovarr, lol man 99% of the time windows screws up ur ping due to inadiqute networking and the uincontrolable spyware08:33
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CandymanAzunai, I wouldn't call spyware "uncontrollable"08:33
mitrovarrAzunai:  Spyware is entirely controllable.08:33
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mitrovarrAzunai:  I was a network engineering student for a while.  Ping is usually due to level 1 (hardware) issues, not software.08:34
Azunaimitrovarr, dude its down to windows been a shit os simple as that tbh spyware is uncortolable and the networking capabilities suck compared to linux08:35
mitrovarrAzunai:  Unless you have a serious malware infestation or your networking is really badly misconfigured, I doubt changing OSs will affect ping much.08:35
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Azunaimitrovarr, in my opinon anyways08:35
woodywartyHow do I list files and directories in color using the 'ls' command in BAsh08:35
Azunaimitrovarr, but hey im a linux noob :D08:35
abeeehow to set the windows sizee in linux ?08:35
mitrovarrabeee:  You mean resize windows?08:36
holy_cowAzunai, it is strongly recommended to take your personal opinion and shove it aside for a bit when someone with more experience is trying to help out :)08:36
holy_cowjust a tip :)08:36
holy_cowyou will find on the whole learning a lot easier08:36
holy_cow:)08:36
Candymanwoodywarty, man ls08:36
Candymanwoodywarty, look at the --color section08:36
Azunaiholy_cow, i dont disagree holy i was just staing what i think about windows thats all08:36
abeeeyupe08:36
woodywartythanks Candyman08:37
Candymanyep, glad to help08:37
mitrovarrabeee:  just grab the edge of the window and drag08:37
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abeeemitrovarr : how to set up the windows size in desktop ? its too small.. its to hard for me to see the word08:37
Candyman(assuming that actually does help)08:37
jlduggerwell, one might say that a claim that "99 percent of the time windows screws up your ping because of poorly written networking and malware infestations" is easily misconstrued as a statement of fact rather than opinion08:37
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Azunaidow do you install a .deb ffile?08:38
CandymanAzunai, dpkg -i <name>08:38
mitrovarrabeee:  Put the mouse pointer on the edge of the window until you get an arrow pointing into a line, click and drag until the window is resized in that dimension until it is the size you want.08:38
Azunaithanks08:38
wizardjameshmm, does anyone know why my system hangs on bootup at "mounting root file system"  when i add another harddrive08:38
jlduggerIronically, most of window's networking problems are derived from vendor's drivers.08:38
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jlduggerwizardjames, how big is the drive?08:39
mitrovarrjldugger:  I think most user's problems stem from the poor security, both due to spyware/virus infestation and due to overhead for defensive sweepers and firewalls08:39
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abeeei am not resiae the folder but the windows sizae in desktop ? i dont see any line when i go to the eade of the windows08:39
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wizardjamesits 120 gigs jldugger  ...08:39
jlduggerwizardjames, which fs?08:39
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mitrovarrabeee:  Sorry, I'm just not sure what you're trying to ask about exactly.08:40
wizardjamesjldugger,   its ntfs,   i got music files i want to access from my ubuntu install on it08:40
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jlduggerwell, ntfs and reiser both appear to take a long time to mount08:40
Candymanwizardjames, your root filesystem isn't NTFS, is it?08:40
mitrovarrAzunai:  I think I'm in a prime place to test, actually.  I have a working ubuntu and a working winXP, and UT2004 installed on both.  I am fairly certain I don't have spyware.  Let me compare pings real fast.08:40
abeeeok.. hmm mitrovarr.. can u just teach me in easy way.. how to set the deskop size in 800x60008:41
daschlabeee edit your xorg.conf08:41
abeeesorry bothering ua lot08:41
Azunaimitrovarr, sure let me know the results :)08:41
abeee>.<08:41
mitrovarrabeee:  OH, that's easy.  Go to system, preferences, screen resolution08:41
holy_cowmitrovarr, i would restate that in another way, most windows issues stem from the user refusing to learn or even acknowledge that to properly admin a computer one must have the skills to do so.  industry tells them 'customer is always right' and there by extension it turns into 'it is okay to be an idiot and not take responsibility for your actions'08:41
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jlduggerwizardjames, I'm guessing you need to be careful of how the drives are added. if you add another drive and it accidentally becomes hda1, the root filesystem has effectively moved08:42
wizardjamesok,  i got one harddrive dectacated to ubuntu , its 250 gigs ,   all ext3 with a ext2 20 gig partion just incase for other stuff,  then i got another harddrive that has my windows on it.08:42
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abeeeoks08:42
abeeethx alot08:42
mitrovarrholy_cow:  That's exactly right.  But I do think windows has some truly bad security problems that aren't due to user dumbness.08:42
abeeemitrovarr.. i got it thx alot.. and sorry.. but i am really the new bie in linuxx08:42
Azunaimitrovarr, ^^^08:42
wizardjamesthey are sata drives jldugger.  i got my ubuntu on slot 1, and windows on slot 2 when the error happens08:42
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mitrovarrholy_cow:  like everyone running in administrator all the time, because everything requires it08:43
jlduggerhmm08:43
jlduggerid try putting in a live CD and seeing what's up08:43
holy_cowmitrovarr, ubuntu has a similar configuration too ...08:43
abeeemitrovarr : i wanna using linux as my server to manage the bandwtich.. is this linux ubuntu version support it ?08:44
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holy_cowbecause no one is told that the first user is LIKE ADMINISTRATOR on windows ...08:44
daschlmitrovarr you can run it as an admin, because windows doesnt give a damn about home user security ;)08:44
holy_cow... no one actyually sets up a second account to run from08:44
wizardjamesbut if i remove (unplug from the motherboard)  my windows hardrive, and just have my ubuntu one in. it works08:44
mitrovarrholy_cow:  no one ever runs as root in ubuntu, and administrators can't do mean things without getting checked for their password08:44
holy_cowi.e. what happens now is we have a bunch of users with 3 letter passwords running ubuntu desktops08:44
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jlduggerholy_cow, even if people WANTED to run with limited user accounts in windows, theres serveral barriers to doing so.08:44
holy_cowone clever shell script and adios08:44
Azunaiholy_cow,  lol08:44
Candymanwizardjames, are they both SATA drives?08:44
mitrovarrabeee:  you'll have to be more specific as to what you want to do exactly.  Server for what?08:44
tonyyarussoReally quick q?: How do I reload a module?08:44
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wizardjamesyes Candyman08:44
mitrovarrdaschl:  That's what I was saying... it's just a bad way to do things08:45
Azunaiok cd burned :P08:45
holy_cowmitrovarr, we08:45
giaMy internet won't work if I have both my eth0 and eth1 (wifi) turned on.  Any suggestions?08:45
Azunaiman some things are so much more eisier in linux than windows08:45
metalsandHi, I just installed Ubuntu - but am having issues with my screen's resolution. The only option I have is 1024x768 while my screen's native resolution is 1280x800.08:45
holy_cowwe'll see how it works out i guess, it has worked fine for osx08:45
jlduggerholy_cow, afaik sudo style access isn't provided, and most games require administrator access08:45
Candymangia, turn one of them off ;-)08:45
metalsandDo I need to install graphical drivers to get resolutions for my laptop?08:46
jlduggermetalsand, try turning down the Hz first08:46
Azunaiil brb guys08:46
Candymanmetalsand, what video drivers are you using?08:46
metalsandjldugger: There's only 1 option for Hz, too.08:46
tonyyarussogia: I ran into the same thing; just turned one off.08:46
holy_cowjldugger, thats only before win2k, games written for winxp as far as i've seen take permissions into account? no?08:46
metalsandCandyman: I have no idea.08:46
Candymanahhhh08:46
Candymank08:46
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metalsandCandyman: I Just installed Ubuntu08:46
jlduggerholy_cow, hell no.08:46
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abeeemitrovarr : i have 20 computer in my network. and want to use linux as my server also as an router to manage all the computer bandwtich in my network... ? what i want is to everage all the bandwtich in each computer.. could i do that in ubuntu ?08:46
holy_cowjldugger, your kidding?08:47
jlduggergames written for xp/win2k explicitly ASK for Admin privledges, so they can make sure you arent stealing it08:47
holy_cowpeople run games as root?08:47
holy_cowwow08:47
jlduggerand maybe stop cheaters08:47
giaCandyman, tonyyarusso, this computer is a gift for a friend of mine, that would be a royal pain to train her at08:47
mitrovarrabeee:  You mean file server?  File serving and routing can both be done, without problems08:47
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holy_cowjldugger, holy moly thats incredible, i thought it all changed?08:47
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metalsandSo like, can anyone help? :x08:47
mitrovarrabeee:  stuff like configuring network bandwidth limiting will be hard to configure, though08:47
metalsandThis resolution is painful to look at.08:47
mitrovarrabeee:  certainly beyond anything I know how to set up08:47
jlduggerholy_cow, the only thing that changed is that the publishers put "requires administrative access" on the box08:48
abeeeok but could provide me some FAQ website or what ever to learn to ?08:48
wizardjameshmm. well this just sucks .  wonder why i cant get it to work..   odd ...really odd..08:48
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tonyyarussogia: Hmm...Does she need to use both on a regular basis?  You could make one not start by default.08:48
wizardjamesmaybe i will reinstall ubuntu with both harddrives in..08:48
ssstormyhello, I've installed DVD::rip, but there is no entry in the menu.  I can fix this, but in my memory there was an entry in the past when I've installed it before.  Anyone know?08:48
jlduggerpunkbuster etc all require access to everything so they can make sure you're not cheating. not that it really helps08:48
holy_cowjldugger, wow.  i am speechless08:48
Candymanmetalsand, can you go to a terminal and type "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look for the line in the Device section that says Driver on it please, then let me know what it says?08:48
wizardjamesssstormy,  dvd::rip is very old08:48
mitrovarrabeee:  I wish, but I don't know any myself.  I'd just google for the specific tasks you want.  Do you want to be a file and print server to windows machines?08:48
giatonyyarusso, yes she needs both.08:48
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ssstormywizardjames, is there a newer better one?08:49
abeeeno08:49
tonyyarussogia: Can you explain what for, so we have an idea of what sort of options might make sense?08:49
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abeeeonly manage the network bandwtich.08:49
jlduggerholy_cow, well, its kind of required if you're planning on inspecting all processes to make sure they arent hax0ring the online games.08:49
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wizardjamesssstormy,  the last update for it was in 2003 , iirc  theres a few programs that do the same..  forget the names08:49
abeeemy server is using windows right now.. and the bandwitch management is very week08:49
askbollenhi, can anyone confirm that there are problems involved with installing 64-bit ubuntu on sata hdd's?08:49
metalsandCandyman:       Driver          "i810"08:49
mitrovarrabeee:  Sorry, I don't know how to do that, or where there's a faq.  I guess I'd google for it.08:49
abeeeso i chose to using linux.. but i am really new biee in linux so i am here to asking for help ..08:50
Candymanok thx08:50
giatonyyarusso, at home she's only got wi-fi.  At school she's only got wired (no, I didn't get that reversed)08:50
holy_cowjldugger, its unnacceptable from a security point of view imho08:50
BAkiabeee, try using linux censornet.08:50
abeeemitrovarr : never mind.. u really help me alot thx guyzz08:50
wizardjameswhats a downloading program better then limewire?08:50
abeeebaki : whats that ?08:50
BAkii'm using it right now.08:50
BAkiits a proxy server.08:50
abeeeoh ic08:50
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abeeecan i manage a network bandwithc ?08:50
jlduggerholy_cow, the impression i get is that game publishers dont care. their users generally dont care or at least dont understand the implications08:50
giawizardjames, what are you trying to download?08:50
BAkiyup. you can.08:50
wizardjamesgia,   anything.08:51
tonyyarussogia: Okay.  And you're thinking opening the System > Administration > Networking windows would be too much hassle.08:51
Candymanin the same file, could you look in the Display subsection of the Screen section and tell me the first entry in the Modes line?08:51
abeeedoes ubuntu have that additonal application ?08:51
wizardjamesgia,  i forget what its called..    gtk  something08:51
BAkii'm not sure about that, abee.08:51
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abeeeso what linux u are using now ?08:51
abeeewhat version ?08:51
tonyyarussogia: It might be possible to create some quick scripts with launchers on the desktop to serve the same purpose.08:51
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Candymanmetalsand, in the "Depth 24" section08:51
abeeemitrovarr : ^^ thx alot08:51
BAkii'm using ubuntu, censornet, and RH908:52
ssstormythis is curious08:52
abeeeweww08:52
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holy_cowjldugger, the latter is clear the former i thought was taken care of  ... now i will be completely advising against gaming on windows at all.  they should just get an xbox or whatever08:52
ssstormythere are a small flock of menu entries installed to /usr/lib/menu08:52
abeeecensornet is it an OS or kind of sofware using in linux ?08:52
ssstormythat are of course not used08:52
metalsanddepth 108:52
metalsandModes "1280x800"08:52
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Candymanmetalsand, in the "Depth 24" section please08:52
BAkiubuntu for clients,  RH for WEbserver, and censornet for proxy.08:52
abeeebaki : is censornet is an operating system ?08:52
BAkiyup08:52
jlduggerholy_cow, as far as i can tell the only way publishers will start caring is when someone sues them for being hacked through the game.08:53
abeeeoh i c08:53
metalsand      DefaultDepth    2408:53
metalsand        SubSection "Display"08:53
metalsand                Depth           108:53
metalsand                Modes           "1280x800"08:53
metalsandCandyman: That?08:53
Candymanmetalsand, yeah08:53
BAkiit is still linux based.08:53
tonyyarussogia: As in, a launcher named "School" that runs a script checking to see if the wi-fi interface's up, taking it down if yes, and bringing up the wired interface.  Then one called "Home" which would do the opposite.  All she'd have to do is click the appropriate icon on the desktop for her location.08:53
abeeei c..08:53
holy_cowBAki, how do you find censornet, i've been looking for something like this actually, thx for the accidental heads up :)08:53
tonyyarussoAnyone have feedback on that suggestion ^^ ?08:53
ssstormywizardjames, you have any suggestions? synaptic dosn't seem to be finding anything (all the regular ubuntu breezy reps, including multi and uni)08:53
Candymanmetalsand, well darn...I was hoping that was the problem, but it looks fine08:53
BAkidownload.08:53
holy_cowjldugger, ha! as if, they will just pull out the dmca legislation in the us or whatever.08:53
metalsandCandyman: Is there a file where I can manually add resolutions?08:53
BAkiil look for the site first. i forgot.08:54
ubuntui need help .. i need the password of root in the live version of ubuntu08:54
abeeeso ubuntu still dont have the function just like clinux censornet.08:54
holy_cowjldugger, that basically  answers the question if linux will ever get games, and the answer is no, the fundamental distrust between publisher and user cannot be breached08:54
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jlduggerand good luck with that, given the EULA says "YOU AGREE NOT TO SUE US IF OUR SOFTWARE IS BUGGY, BORING, NOT MERCHANTABLE, OR CAUSES YOUR COMPUTER TO SPAM PAYPAL PHISHING EMAILS"08:54
tonyyarussoubuntu: By default there is no root password; use sudo.08:54
BAkithere 's no root password for the ubuntu by default08:54
jlduggerholy_cow, there's a few games out there.08:54
Candymanmetalsand, upon further inspection, is that the only Subsection "Display" in that file?08:54
metalsandCandyman: No08:54
jlduggerut2k4, and probably 2kwhatevercomesnext08:54
ubuntui did su root and i asked for password08:54
holy_cowjldugger, i'm aware of them :) the industry will never swing over tho, not with that attitude.08:54
tonyyarussoReally quick q?: How do I reload a module?08:55
BAkiabee. i'm not sure about that.08:55
tonyyarussoubuntu: So don't su root.08:55
metalsandThere's many, with the only value changing Depth08:55
Candymanmetalsand, is there one that has Depth 24 inside of it?08:55
tonyyarussoubuntu: sudo -i.08:55
Candymanok08:55
Candymanthx08:55
BAkimaybe there. i haven't discovered it yet.08:55
BAkihahahaa.08:55
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metalsand1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24.08:55
abeeelolz08:55
ubuntuthanks08:55
jlduggerholy_cow, the industry is pretty much aware that PC gaming is dying anyways. the XBOX just prodded the last few into realizing it.08:55
Candymanmetalsand, well, if you were going to manually specify a resolution it would be in that file08:55
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holy_cowjldugger, thats a pretty good point08:55
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metalsandThey're all 1280x800.08:55
metalsandI remember going through this when I first installed Ubuntu08:56
Candymanmetalsand, those sections list all the different resolutions that are supported at each color depth08:56
abeeebaki : what do u prefeer to use if u want to set up a server only to manage the bandwtich in a network ? i mean what version will u use for linux ? red head or what ever ?08:56
metalsandI had to do something to get my correct resolution to function08:56
askbollensorry for asking this again :) are there known issues when installing ubuntu 64 on SATA drives?08:56
Candymanmetalsand, so in theory it should only be able to run at 1280x800 according to that...which is weird08:56
B1zzi would like to use my ubuntu box as a backup server to backup my 2 winxp boxes and my other ubuntu laptop what software would you recomend?08:56
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Toma-has the ati (gpl) driver got a max res? or is it monitor specific?08:56
abeeeBaki : do you have any messenger ? can i add u in my friend list ?08:56
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mitrovarrBlzz:  well, if you're going to copy files over a network to back things up from winxp machines, I'd probably use samba08:57
johanbrB1zz: If you're comfortable with some shell scripting, rsync. Otherwise I don't know.08:57
gianope, I didn't know you could do it that way ;-)  the only admin I ever do with the gui is gui admin08:57
giatonyyarusso, Problem with that, the window is too big for 1024x768, and the screen won't do anything higher (it won't really do anything lower either, it just reduces visible space)08:57
jlduggerholy_cow, its possible that the OS X migration to intel could spell some changes in PC gaming, but the possiblities of that change include total death.08:57
giaand the admin button can't be clicked08:57
abeeeBaki : u there ?08:57
munzirhi sirs, yesterday I did an update that update the kernel on my system. Now ubuntu don't boot and says file not found or similar. why? so?08:57
B1zzhehe dont know any shell scripiting.... you have a link to get me started?08:57
Toma-jldugger, could mean that game designers will be more willing to port to other OS's?08:58
B1zzsamba? to back up? i though it was just a type of protocol?08:58
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holy_cowjldugger, it also includes the requirement of access to root account just like on windows ....08:58
tonyyarussogia: What window is too big?  The whole desktop?08:58
Candymanmetalsand, take a llok at http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10212.html08:58
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mitrovarrBlzz:  well, yeah, I didn't know you already had a way to throw files over the network08:58
BAkiwait, i'm still installing something08:58
jlduggerToma-, or it could mean that the market becomes fragmented enough that nobody makes a living and we're forced to enjoy Yahoo! Spades.08:58
B1zz:)08:58
B1zzthank you tho :)08:58
johanbrB1zz: www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html08:58
B1zzsweet thanks johanbr08:59
Toma-i hate yahoo spades :~<08:59
abeeeok08:59
jlduggerholy_cow, you'll remember that DOOM used to require root access.08:59
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mitrovarrDoom required root access on linux machines?  Man, I bet THAT didn't fly well.08:59
holy_cowjldugger, not 3 right?08:59
abeeehey all.. really want to hear ur suggest here.. what version of linux will u use if u want to set up a server to manage the internet bandwtich to each computer in ur network ?08:59
jlduggerholy_cow, not 3.08:59
jlduggerdoom the xvgalib game09:00
jlduggererr svgalib09:00
holy_cow*nod* never ran that09:00
giatonyyarusso, no, the network settings09:01
soutineabeee: "you" and "your" - not that hard to type, really...09:01
jlduggermaybe the death of PC gaming will mean OSS games get better.09:01
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mitrovarrjldugger:  We can only hope.  I know of less than 5 that I'd play, personally.09:01
jlduggercrack-attack!09:02
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tonyyarussogia: I'm a bit confused by what's happing.  The network settings window is too big to fit on the screen?09:02
mitrovarrjldugger:  Never seen that one.  My short list is lbreakout2, frozen-bubbles, Ur-quan masters (think it's OSS, it's definitely free), katomic, and a couple of others.09:02
giatonyyarusso, yep.09:02
PsySineisn't wine available for x86_64?09:03
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jlduggercrack-attack is awesome09:03
jlduggerapt-get it today!09:03
mitrovarrjldugger:  I really wish they wouldn't suffer from such an irritating excess of penguins.  Yeah, I know, it's the linux mascot, but there are times and places...09:03
CandymanPsySine, I don't think so09:03
abeeesoutine : i am sorry.. its my habit to simple in that way09:03
PsySineCandyman: then what should I do?09:03
mitrovarrjldugger:  you should try ur-quan masters if you haven't.  It's a linux version of star control 2, a really great old game09:03
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CandymanPsySine, for what?09:04
sirbijanhi ppl09:04
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PsySinetypespeed owns!09:04
jlduggermitrovarr, i tried it, but i think its one of those games that youd have to have appreciated back when it was the best thing out there.09:04
PsySineCandyman: should I compile it or what?09:04
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sirbijanI forgot that package which gives me lots of themes for GNOME, would you please gimme the name?!09:04
mitrovarrjldugger:  I don't know, I picked it up later... but maybe my fond old memories of starflight influenced me there.09:04
tonyyarussogia: Interesting.  In my experience that's not a very big window.  But you've tried all the things for fixing resolution, and that's not it?09:05
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jlduggermitrovarr, standard PC technique of dropping you off in the middle of some unexplained circumstance with no idea of the goals methods or gameplay.09:05
tonyyarussogia: Alt-Click will let you drag things too, if that helps temporarily.09:05
metalsandCan someone link me to a good sources.list for repositries?09:05
jlduggermitrovarr, crack-attack, despite sounding like a rootkit, is actually a neat tetris attack clone09:06
giatonyyarusso, I'm running kde because I refuse to subject my friends to the tyrany of raise-window-on-click which gnome mandates09:06
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metalsandI'm following the one off of http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and I get errors when I apt-get update09:06
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mitrovarrjldugger:  I was just looking at it.... is it obligatory multiplayer?09:06
abeeemitrovarr : can i add u in my messenger list ?09:06
jlduggerits got a single and multiplayer modfe09:06
jlduggermode09:06
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mitrovarrjldugger:  Oh.  Perhaps that's what that 'solo' button does.09:06
tonyyarussogia: I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive you can turn that off.  (I am running Gnome myself.)09:07
mitrovarrabeee:  I don't think I can really offer much help for what you're doing, past what I've already said09:07
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jlduggeryea, the front-end is pretty new to linux. win32 had one written in VB for a long time, but linux only had a CLI until recently09:07
giatonyyarusso, Tell me how, I tried to make gnome do it for about four hours before I gave up09:07
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tonyyarussogia: So even if that's out, would the script launcher on the desktop work?  That could be right in the middle so it wouldn't be an issue.09:08
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BAkiabee. try www.censornet.com09:08
PegsuI am still having problems in not being able to access multiverse packages through synaptic. "Could not resolve 'fi.archive.ubuntu.com'"09:08
tonyyarussogia: Let me get Gnome up and I'll see if I can find something.09:08
johanbrgia: Run gnome-window-properties from a terminal.09:08
abeeeBaki : hmmm ok thx alot09:08
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mitrovarrjldugger:  crack-attack looks pretty good.  But I don't think we'll ever see games that are competitive with modern big-budget games from OSS...  just not enough people or enough money to set them up09:09
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jlduggermitrovarr, I donno. look at the number of people who make games for free.09:09
jlduggerCounter-Strike09:09
jlduggerDay of Defeat09:09
jlduggerNatural Selection09:10
tonyyarussogia: Well, it's certainly not obvious if it's true.09:10
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jlduggerDesert Combat09:10
mitrovarrjldugger:  Yeah, but they didn't make the engine, and those are always made for extremely popular games.09:10
tonyyarussoPower-Gnome-users: Can raise-window-on-click be turned off, as apparently it can in KDE?  How?09:10
mitrovarrjldugger:  But I see your point:  if OSS put out a good engine (which is possible) and computer gaming went away, maybe the old modmakers would make games for it.09:10
BAkiwelcome09:11
jlduggerhell, Q3A is GPL'd09:11
mitrovarrjldugger:  True, but that isn't why it was made.  It's just abandonware with nice owners.09:11
progrockI just installd windows on my hda1 partition.. I think i overwrote the MBR.. how do I fix it so grub loads instead of just windows09:11
tonyyarusso!tell progrock about grub09:12
mitrovarrjldugger:  of course, that does have some similarity with the staroffice -> openoffice situation09:12
sirbijanhey, may I ask my question?09:12
abeeei am really getting nut seeing linux version.. really got a lot of version of it... and confuse to chose09:12
abeee>.<09:12
johndarkhorsesirbijan: ask09:12
johanbr tonyyarusso: As I wrote a few minutes ago, run gnome-window-properties .09:12
giajohanbr, switching to gnome on my other machine to try it out09:13
tonyyarussojohanbr: Sorry, didn't see that.09:13
sirbijanthank you johndarkhorse09:13
mitrovarrjldugger:   Well, it's always possible, I just haven't seen free games competitive with commercial games in the same way that OSS apps and operating systems are.09:13
sirbijanit's a very simple question: I want a web address or sth to access lots of themse for my GNOME09:13
jlduggerpart of the question is why the modmakers are making their choices. if it's because of a quality set of tools, then OSS has a chance if the right people recognize this. if its because there's a history of making money giving away mods and being "purchased" by a company, well thats a bit more dicey09:13
sirbijanI also heard it's a package availabe for doing that09:13
sirbijanbut I forgot the name09:13
johndarkhorseubotu: tell sirbijan about themes09:14
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sirbijanhey, is ubotu a bot?!09:14
Pegsusirbijan, yes09:14
metalsan1FATAL: command 'wlanctl-ng eth2 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable >/dev/null 2>/dev/null' failed.09:14
mitrovarrjldugger:  I think it's a matter of modmakers wanting to be cutting edge, mostly.  I don't think OSS has ever offered a good engine for gaming, and certainly not one competitive with current commercial games.09:14
sirbijanis it automatic?09:14
metalsan1What does that mean? :x :x09:15
Pegsuyup09:15
johndarkhorseubotu: tell sirbijan about yourself09:15
sirbijanoopse!09:15
sirbijanHow can I work with it?09:15
sirbijanthank you!09:15
sirbijanit's so funny!09:15
sirbijanlets see if I can do it09:15
johanbrsirbijan: Look at art.gnome.org or install the package gnome-art, which gets you an art selector.09:15
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sirbijanubotu, tell johndarkhorse about sirbijan09:15
sirbijandid it work?!09:15
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Pegsusirbijan, I thibk you could do things a bit easier by !thing, like09:16
Pegsu!ntfs09:16
ubotuit has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK09:16
giajohanbr, I'm not seeing how to disable it on my fedora machine.  All I get is "Select windows when the mouse moves over them" "raise selected windows after an interval" "double-click titlebar to perform this action:  " and "to move a window, press-and-hold this key then grab the window:"09:16
metalsan1Can someone help me get the correct resolution for my laptop?09:16
jlduggermitrovarr, ogre3d looks promising.09:16
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tonyyarussosirbijan: Well, no.  There's no factoid about you, nor should there be.  Also, don't spam the channel with bot use, do /msg ubotu factoid.09:16
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jlduggermitrovarr, the demos were rather pretty on my roommate's computer09:17
mitrovarrjldugger:  I'll have to take a look sometime.  I think it's probably more promising to expand and update09:17
tonyyarussogia, johanbr: That's what I have too.09:17
sirbijanok, sorry, how can I register my name in here tonyyarusso ?09:17
mitrovarrjldugger: the q3a engine if it's really gpled, but I haven't seen it, maybe it's good.09:17
jlduggerogre3d is like crystal space except the people behind it arent retarded09:17
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sirbijanand what's a factoid?09:17
johndarkhorseubotu: tell sirbijan about register09:17
rudizis de english forum of ubuntu down?09:17
johanbrgia: Oh, I think I understand now. Is that it you want windows in stay in the background, even when clicked? If so, you'll probably have to switch to another window manager.09:18
jlduggerfactoid: truthy not facty ;)09:18
arrinmurrrudiz: yes09:18
rudiz:(09:18
mitrovarrso does anyone know if it improves performance to use the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the 386 kernel?09:19
tonyyarussogia: Sounds like you were right after all.  Oops on me.09:19
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giajohanbr, yeah, you got it.  That's why I personally made the switch to kde09:19
sirbijanrudiz, yes, they're down09:19
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johanbrgia: Or you could use something like openbox instead of metacity. Works well under gnome.09:20
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progrockI just reinstalled grub after messing up my mbr when installing windows.. but now how do I get windows to show up in grub?09:20
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tonyyarussoprogrock: The grub-install didn't auto-detect it?09:20
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johanbrgia: But I agree with you that moving to kde is looking better all the time. I think Linus had a point with the whole "dumbing down" flamewar.09:21
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giajohanbr, that just went over my head, unless openbox and metacity are window managers, and even if they are, I've never toyed with window managers and know nothing about them ;-)09:21
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metalsandCan someone help change my resolution?09:21
mitrovarrjohanbr:  I know it bugs the hell out of me every time I try to find a gnome option and it isn't there...09:21
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giajohanbr, I was personally shocked to see that, but yes, he has.09:22
mitrovarrmetalsand:  Have you tried system -> preference -> Screen resolution?09:22
johndarkhorseubotu: tell metalsand about fixres09:22
metalsandThe only option limited under preferences is 1024x768, while my monitor's native resolution is 1280x80009:22
Nameeater!fixres09:22
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:22
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mitrovarrmetalsand:  Ah.  Do you know your horizontal and vertical refresh rates?09:22
rbo159!fixres09:22
metalsandmitrovarr: No idea.09:22
metalsandI'll read the wiki, though. Thanks Nameeater09:22
abeeewhats i really DHcP using for ?09:22
johanbrgia: openbox and metacity are indeed window managers. Not really more complicated than doing "apt-get install openbox" and "openbox --replace &".09:23
rbo159!fixres09:23
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto09:23
mitrovarrmetalsand:  you on a CRT or an LCD?09:23
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sirbijanREGISTER whatever09:23
sirbijanoopse, it doesn't work!09:23
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metalsandmitrovarr: LCD09:24
fli7eabeee, DHCP is a way of automatically obtaining an ip address from your router09:24
metalsandIt's a laptop.09:24
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mitrovarrmetalsand:  I'm not exactly sure how to set it up, then, but I have an idea09:24
wjhow do i install firefox 1.5 thorough apt?09:24
giajohanbr, hrm, and you know I would be able to achieve this with openbox?09:25
johndarkhorsewj: you don't09:25
superm1Hello all, I see that the forums are still down (at least I can't connect through my ISP).  I'm not really looking for an ETA, but i'm kinda curious if anyone really knows what happened?09:25
wjhow do i make apt upgrade software to its latest version then?09:25
mitrovarrmetalsand:  do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  and check the display subsection in the screen section09:25
sirbijanjohndarkhorse, can I PM you now? the bot told me how to register my nick name, but I'm so stupid, I don't seem to get it09:25
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johanbrgia: I have to admit I don't know for sure, but openbox is so customizable that I'd be very surprised if you couldn't.09:26
Nameeatersudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade09:26
mitrovarrmetalsand:  Add 1280x800 to the modes line for the color modes you want to use09:26
tonyyarusso!tell wj about firefox1.509:26
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abeeeok thx09:26
mitrovarrmetalsand:  hopefully that will make the mode available09:26
tonyyarussowj: You wait until it's in the apt repos.09:26
tonyyarussowj: Or you do it manually.09:26
wjwhere can i find up-to-date apt repos?09:27
mitrovarrmetalsand:  if it's already there, then you need to turn your refresh rate down before you try to select it in the resolution choose, like others have said09:27
tonyyarusso!tell wj about sources09:27
johanbrgia: Now I know for sure: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/rc.php . Search for "raise" on that page.09:27
giaE:  Couldn't find package openbox09:28
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johanbrgia: Really? Which release are you using?09:28
tonyyarussogia: It's in universe.09:28
hannes__sers09:28
hannes__hi09:28
sirbijantonyyarusso,  can I PM you now? the bot told me how to register my nick name, but I'm so stupid, I don't seem to get it09:28
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Mtrakerhi09:28
tonyyarussosirbijan: Sure...what was your thing again?09:28
hannes__srs09:28
sirbijanhi hannes__09:29
hannes__wos geiitn?09:29
wjic.. but it doesnt have the latest versions right?09:29
MtrakerCan I install Alias maya in ubuntu?09:29
hannes__hi sirbijan09:29
sirbijanI type REGISTER <mypassword> to register my nick, but it doesn't work09:29
abeeewhy i cant detect my other hard drive in linux ? after using linux one of my hard drive is missing ?09:29
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sirbijanI'm new to IRC09:29
mitrovarrmetalstorm:  any luck?09:29
sirbijanhow's it going hannes__ ?09:29
hannes__yes you can09:29
tonyyarussowj: Depends on the software.  Not for firefox right now; that's only in Dapper.09:29
hannes__09:29
wjic09:30
TokenBadis there a way to find out info about your cable modem in ubuntu...09:30
TokenBad?09:30
hannes__@sirbijan: everything ok, and you?09:30
sirbijanthe same!09:30
hannes__@sirbijan: m or f?09:30
johanbrTokenBad: Depends on the modem. Some of them can be accessed via telnet or www.09:30
sirbijanhey dude, come on, this is not place for that, certainly m!09:30
MtrakerI have a problem with maya, I cann install maya but can't runing the program.09:30
giatonyyarusso, ty09:31
TokenBadits a motorola09:31
wjwhat are backports?09:31
TokenBadbut I want to know like what bit it uses and stuff09:31
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TokenBadbin even09:31
tonyyarussosirbijan: Did you read the instructions from /msg nickserv help register?09:31
johanbrTokenBad: "what bin" ?09:31
B1zzsirbijan try this link it helped me out to register nick.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup09:31
TokenBadyeah I think the tech did something to my modem09:31
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Mtrakerubuntuforums it's down now?09:32
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sirbijanyup I did, thank you tonyyarusso & B1zz , I do it now09:32
wjthanks!09:32
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TokenBadsee in windows you have tools like dhcpforce09:32
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johanbrTokenBad: If they can be accessed at all, the IP is usually 192.168.something. Try 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1.09:33
TokenBadbut I want to know what he did to my modem09:33
TokenBadI check the web menu..but it not give me the info I want09:33
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johanbrTokenBad: In that case I don't know. Sorry.09:34
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Has something about it changed?09:34
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TokenBadits gets speeds faster that it should09:35
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giaokay, so how do I tell it to switch my window manager to openbox again?09:35
mitrovarrTokenBad:  You mean it exceeds your connection's rated speed?09:35
TokenBadand am scared if comcast says something they will blame me09:35
ZyELLowMAN2help?09:35
TokenBadmitrovarr, yes09:35
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johanbrgia: metacity --replace &09:35
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TokenBadsee I called comcast...cause I was only getting 3mbit speeds09:36
mitrovarrTokenBad:  I don't think the tech could have changed that from your modem, if that was true people would ALWAYS be hacking into those things.09:36
TokenBadwhen I should be getting like 8mbit09:36
fekmoin09:36
TokenBadhe didn't do it from my modem09:36
Nameeaterhow does one configure a printer over the network? I need to add it to that pc but its a headless box09:36
TokenBadhe did it from outside the house...using 2 laptops09:36
TokenBadand it took him 2 hours09:36
mitrovarrTokenBad:  well, how could they blame you when their equipment is misconfigured?09:36
TokenBadmy speed should be 8mbit but looks09:37
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mitrovarrTokenBad:  It sounds like what they changed wasn't something you have access to, something on their end.  I doubt you can do anything about it from your end, if you could then people would always be hacking their internet speeds to make them faster.09:37
tonyyarussojohanbr: Uh, wouldn't that switch it back to metacity?  Before you said openbox --replace &, I thought.09:37
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TokenBadUpload: 46.53K/sec [||||||||||] , Download: 2540.00K/sec [||||||||||] 09:37
giajohanbr, is there a way to make it so that if I load kde, kwin will come up, and if I load gnome, openbox will come up?09:37
zitohello09:37
TokenBadlook at my download09:37
zitowa it's beautiful09:38
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viper12Just curious, as the forums seem to be down...........is there anything special that needs to be done swapping out an ide cdrom burner with a dvd burner?09:38
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Is that Kbits or Kbytes?09:38
TokenBadI was told he could have hacked my modem09:39
TokenBadbut using um09:39
shingouzviper12: just replace it09:39
TokenBadetherape I have seen it at 11mbit09:39
osfamerongah, skype is still rubbish on breezy09:39
mitrovarrTokenBad:  I seriously doubt that you set the connection speed on your end.  They'd be fools to set it up that way, since people would always be hacking into the things to speed them up.09:39
johanbrgia,tonyyarusso: Sorry, that should of course be "openbox --replace &", I misread the question. The easiest way of saving the setting from gnome is to shut down all programs except for the ones you want to start automatically and then run "gnome-session-save".09:39
osfamerondoesn't install, and Qt is still ugly as sin09:39
viper12I did.  it copies beautifully........it reads perfectly, but it produces coasters.  (looks like stuff has been written on disc, but nothing is readable.09:39
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Are you sure that what you were reading wans't post-compression speed?09:39
shingouzviper12: of course if you want to burn something with it you will need the dvdtools but physically... just replace09:39
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TokenBadmitrovarr, so you don't think I could get in trouble?09:40
osfameron!skype09:40
ubotuskype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/09:40
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TokenBadmitrovarr, I downloaded a 1.7 gig iso in 25 mins09:40
mitrovarrTokenBad:  I *seriously* doubt it.  I mean, seriously, you're barely over speed anyway.  I bet it's 8m is just the rated speed and it's supposed to be able to go higher when conditions are right09:40
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giajohanbr, ty again09:40
viper12shingouz, I thought I'd already gotten those.  There are no errors when burning...........just nothing happening.  I'll check on dvdtools to see if its on system or not...didn't even think about that.09:40
johanbrTokenBad: From what I've heard of Comcast, they couldn't find their own ass with the help of a map, flashlight and a proctologist. I wouldn't worry.09:40
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TokenBadok thanks..09:41
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TokenBadwas just wondering if there was a tool to do that09:41
sirbijanone more question!09:41
Nameeaterforums down again?09:41
sirbijanIt takes a long time for me to install a package with apt-get, is there anyway that after the package is downloaded, I can copy it somewhere that after another installation of ubuntu, I don't have to get it through apt-get again?09:41
shingouzviper12: cdrecord can handle the cd's just like with a cdburner but the dvd's need a bigger hammer09:41
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Probably, but it's probably a tool that they have, that affects their end.  You should not be able to change your own speed.09:41
ChousukeTokenBad: If you have ordered a 8Mb connection and they give you more, it's their loss.09:42
ChousukeI wouldn't complain :D09:42
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TokenBadmitrovarr, I mean that would let me check thinks like windows dhcpforce does09:42
nitroushey i just installed ubuntu and apache 2.2 and i'm trying to get php 5.1.2 installed..i have it downloaded but can't install it...anyone able to help?09:42
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Your ISO download speed is within line with your 11 mbps number from earlier, I checked09:42
mitrovarrTokenBad:  I don't know what dhcpforce is.  I haven't personally used it, so I can't tell you09:43
ChousukeI would love such a connection09:43
mitrovarrMe too, I only get 4 mbps09:43
TokenBadmitrovarr, its a program that you put your mac address in..and then it gets like the bin file you use along with other info of your modem09:43
nitrousanyone able to help me with php5?09:44
tonyyarussoIs there a way to find out an IP address by mac addr?09:44
mitrovarrTokenBad:  Ah.  Sorry, no idea if there's something like that.  But I wouldn't worry about the overspeed thing, I mean, most people wouldn't even notice it09:44
viper12shingouz, I've got that pack on.  I swapped out the drives, but didn't even think about an issue as the drive 'reads/copies' perfectly.  writing to the drive with nautilus gives no errors, but nothing readable is the result.  Popping disc back in shows it as a blank.  (testing disc on other machines also shows that it appears empty...although tracks have been written.09:44
TokenBadbut it will not work with ubuntu...I already tried09:44
TokenBadheheh09:44
Chousuketonyyarusso: they're not related09:44
torthomy wifi card "got lost" after a dist-upgrade to Dapper.. How do i get it back.. ifup says no such device09:44
mitrovarrTokenBad:  I'd guess that 8mbps is just the estimated/guaranteed speed and that it works a little faster is just serendipitous and nice09:44
khermanstonyyarusso, yes -- use arping09:44
nitrousE: Couldn't find package php509:45
nitrous   anyone able to help with this?? lol09:45
tonyyarussokhermans: Ah, very well.09:45
shingouzviper12: umhh... a gui burner? hmm... i like the cli and cdrecord most of the time09:45
khermansviper12, how about gnome burner?09:46
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viper12shingouz, just testing, I've used gnomebake, the natilus gui drag drop.09:46
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nitroussomeone want to even acknowledge that i'm here???09:46
shingouznitrous: looks like you are here09:46
tonyyarussonitrous: I acknowledge your existence, but can't answer your question.09:47
nitroushah thanks...but can anyone answer my question?09:47
johanbrviper12: If you look at the CD, you can tell if anything's been burned onto it. Is there anything there?09:47
viper12all apps are 'successful' and eject the disc normally when complete with the burn..............but nothing is readable.  Its almost as if the disc wasn't 'fixed' at the end of the process.09:47
nitrousall i'm doing is trying to install php can't be very difficult i've done it in redhat a long time ago09:47
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viper12yes the disc has tracks written to it.  dvd-r disc...but same issue with dvd+r as well.  no +-r/w available to test.09:47
kubiatcz09:47
kubiatcze09:48
kubiat:] 09:48
kubiatjest      tu jaki Polak09:48
kubiat??09:48
tonyyarusso!pl09:48
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl09:48
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tonyyarussoHow's that?09:48
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kubiatHey I have problem!09:49
PegsuGood for you!09:49
nitrouslol09:49
kubiatlol he he09:49
kubiat:p;09:49
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TokenBadmitrovarr, ok thanks for helping with this...I was just worried...09:49
TokenBadthanks again09:49
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johanbrviper12: Try "dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/blah bs=1024 count=1000" and then run "file /tmp/blah". That copies the first meg of the dvd to a file and then tries to tell you what type of file it is. What does that print?09:50
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fekisn't there still a soloution for my problem with breezy and my dell 2001 fp? after i upgraded from hoary to breezy i couldnt't use the screen anymore, because when i start it with it's native resoloution and start x i get a green screen and everything hangs.09:51
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damastaQuestion regarding gnome applets. Some people have a system monitor that runs in the panel. What is that called. I checked all my applets and never found it.09:51
johanbrfek: I think your best bet is to file a bug.09:52
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tonyyarussodamasta: Probably gkrellm.09:52
fekjohanbr: i did09:52
johanbrfek: To no avail?09:52
damastatonyyarusso, nah, this one is similar to the icewm one09:52
B1zzi use gdesklets09:52
tonyyarussodamasta: What B1zz said.09:52
damastaThis one is actually embedded in the panel09:52
fekjohanbr: what?09:52
topylidamasta: system monitor09:53
feki am stil lwaiting for a soloution :(09:53
johanbrfek: and no solution was found?09:53
fekwaiting == still three weeks09:53
wizardjamesgot a question. say i have 2 harddrives, first one with nothing, 2ed with windows (working fine) (first one is new, nothing on it.. ) i plan to install ubuntu on the first one..with nothing on it. can it mess up the MBR on the 2ed harddrive?09:53
torthofek: tryed with option "noAccel" in the x conf file?09:53
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damastatopyli, yep, thanks. Too obvious I suppose...lol09:54
topyliheh09:54
tonyyarussowizardjames: Can it?  Yes.  Will it without you telling it to?  No, it shouldn't.09:54
mitrovarrwizardjames:  It certainly shouldn't.09:54
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viper12johanbr,  dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error09:54
viper120+0 records in09:54
viper120+0 records out09:54
viper120 bytes transferred in 0.014587 seconds09:54
viper12my device is on hdc not dvd09:55
wizardjameshmm , odd becasue i had to pull every string i know to get my MBR back on my 2ed harddrive after it removed it09:55
fektortho: yes and with vesa as driver... i have a intel 855 gm in my notebook09:55
johanbrviper12: Okay, that mean's there's nothing readable on that disk at all. Did you say you can read other cd's/dvd's with that drive?09:55
tonyyarussowizardjames: Probably just wasn't the primary one.  The 2nd drive would be chainloaded through grub.09:56
torthois there a config tool for hardware, something like "search for new hardware"?09:56
topyliwizardjames: grub will "mess up" the mbr on the disk you boot from. grub will only read the second drive, it won't touch it otherwise09:56
viper12oh just sec johanbr....my bad.  let me swap for the coaster I've burnt already. duh.  (put the wrong disc on. lol.)09:56
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wizardjameshmm, i donno, its still messed up. i didnt think i would get windows back for a sec. think i iwll wait till tommorw till i get the rest of my new computer.. and put this one into pure server with its own harddrive.. keep my windows one by its self09:56
giagia@neptune:~$ I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/rc.xml"09:57
giaI/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml"09:57
gia(openbox:7749): ObParser-WARNING **: unable to find a valid menu file '/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml'09:57
giaI/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/debian-menu.xml"09:57
giaI/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/xdg/openbox/debian-menu.xml"09:57
gia(openbox:7749): ObParser-WARNING **: unable to find a valid menu file 'debian-menu.xml'09:57
giaI/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/menu.xml"09:57
topylitortho: new hardware are searched at every boot09:57
wizardjames!pastebin09:57
topyligia: please don't09:57
ubotu[pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org09:57
shingouzlets see: ubuntu 5.04, 2.6.10-5-386 kernel and a frigging Conexant HSFi winmodem. i can dial but the pppd dies before getting the dns with "code 16, a modem hung up the phone". hints appreciated09:57
viper12johanbr, dd if=/dev/hdc of=/tmp/blah bs=1024 count=100009:58
nitroussudo apt-get install php4     doesn't work..anyone able to help?09:58
viper121000+0 records in09:58
viper121000+0 records out09:58
viper121024000 bytes transferred in 0.463349 seconds (2209997 bytes/sec)09:58
fekand i am alone with the problem again.... perfect09:58
cafuegonitrous: Doesn't work how?09:58
tonyyarussoshingouz: You have the driver from Linuxant?09:58
torthotopyli: i guessed so, but Dapper can't see my wireless network card, even with the old kernel from Breezy....09:58
shingouztonyyarusso: yup09:58
nitrouscafuego it tells me E: Couldn't find package php409:58
cafuego$EDITOR Thank you for not pasting in the channel.09:58
viper12and the second command yields:   file /tmp/blah09:58
viper12/tmp/blah: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Personal Data, Jan 22, 200609:58
cafuegogrr09:58
cafuegonitrous: *nod* Are you after the apache module, apache2 module, command line or cgi version?09:58
topylitortho: maybe hotplug or whatever is broken in dapper, dunno09:59
tonyyarussoshingouz: Probably a stupid question, but you have the one that matches your kernel version?09:59
shingouztonyyarusso: the very one :)09:59
johanbrviper12: Alright, so it definitely recognizes that disc as having a filesystem. Are you saying you can't mount it?09:59
nitrouscafuego: i already have apache2 installed and that all works..now i am just trying to get php running so i can run sites in php aswell09:59
cafuegonitrous: You want 'libapache-mod-php4' then.09:59
tonyyarussoshingouz: What are you using to dial?09:59
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torthotopyli: I just get an device not found when trying to bring it up.09:59
johanbrgia: I wouldn't worry too much about that, it just complains about some non-existent config files. As long as it still runs, it should be okay.09:59
shingouztonyyarusso: wvdial09:59
nitrouscafuego: so just downloading the php-5.1.2.tar.gz wont help?09:59
viper12no johanbr after it completes burning, and ejects (all normal btw), the disc isn't 'readable'.  in other words, ubuntu thinks its blank when inserted again.  tested on 2 other machines, and they see no files either.10:00
giajohanbr, right, but those config files are the way I can turn on sloppywhatever10:00
cafuegonitrous: No, that would be a bad idea[tm]   (and not give you php4)10:00
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cafuegonitrous: You can either install libapache2-mpd-php4 or libapache2-mod-php510:00
nitrouscafuego: why go with php4 and not php5?10:00
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tonyyarussoshingouz: d***.  So far you've pretty much echoed the setup I've used successfully on two different computers.  I was hoping you'd answer something differently.10:00
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cafuegonitrous: 4 has been around far longer, less likelihood of weirdness.10:01
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nitrouscafuego: well thats a good thing...so just download it from php site and it should install?10:01
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johanbrviper12: What happens when you do "mount /dev/hdc /mnt" ?10:01
cafuegonitrous: No, you don't download anything from any site, just 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5'10:01
shingouztonyyarusso: i am very very tempted to run outside and get a hardware modem for this one but that would mean i would have to go outside which is always scary10:01
cafuegonitrous: it's all already IN Ubuntu. All you need to do is install the package.10:01
giajohanbr, can you send me the link to the openbox config options again?10:01
virogenesiscannot execute binary file <--- what would cause that? i'm doing sudo sh ./10:02
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johanbrgia: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/rc.php10:02
theinenitrous, or search for mod-php in Synaptic10:02
cafuegovirogenesis: The file isn't a shell script?10:02
giajohanbr, ty10:02
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nitrousCafuego: i tried that and it told me sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php410:02
tonyyarussoshingouz: Phone a friend, and have them order one for you online!10:02
soapi need help10:02
virogenesisit is thats the thing10:02
cafuegonitrous: Well, there you go then.10:02
viper12johanbr, this:  mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only10:02
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soapmysql failed when started10:03
cafuegovirogenesis: ODes the first line perhaps refer to a shell that doesn't exist?10:03
viper12which makes sense as it is a -r after all.10:03
shingouztonyyarusso: or i could always get on a bike and scoot off to zeer rangsit real quick, it is around the corner for me a couple of more days10:03
johanbrviper12: Looks alright to me. If you do "ls /mnt" you should see your files now.10:03
nitrouscafuego: sorry it says " Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php410:03
nitrous"10:03
soapit says   "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'10:03
soap"10:03
cafuego!info libapache2-mod-php410:03
ubotulibapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB10:03
tonyyarussoshingouz: Whatever floats your boat I guess.10:03
soapwho can help me10:03
cafuego!info libapache2-mod-php510:03
ubotulibapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB10:03
theinenitrous, the go with php510:04
cafuegonitrous: Welp, they both certainly exist in breezy.10:04
tonyyarussosoap: Ask your question first.10:04
viper12johanbr,  a bunch of machine language garbage finishing with input/output error.10:04
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soapsos10:04
nitrouscafuego: i'm not sure what breezy is?10:04
theinenitrous, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php510:04
cafuegonitrous: the php5 one is in main, for the php4 one you'll need to enable universe.10:04
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theinenitrous, try that, please10:04
cafuegonitrous: Breezy should be the Ubuntu version you're using (5.10).10:04
tonyyarussonitrous: Ubuntu 5.10 codenamed "Breezy Badger".10:04
shingouztonyyarusso: heh... actually i would like to make this one work without having to get another modem. works nicely on "the other operating system" and dials nicely on the real os but the pppd pains me10:04
johanbrviper12: Definitely looks like a bad burn then. Is DMA turned on on your burner?10:04
nitrousCouldn't find package libapache2-mod-php510:05
viper12yes it is johanbr , but I'll double check that again.10:05
soapmysqld.sock doesn't exist10:05
soaphow to create it10:05
viper12johanbr, yep its on.10:05
nitrouscafuego: alright so it is on 5.10 i just need to activate it and it can't find it...hmm10:05
tonyyarussoshingouz: Tried reinstalling the driver?10:05
cafuegosoap: By starting mysql-server.10:05
soapbut i failed10:06
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johanbrviper12: Is your motherboard VIA, by any chance?10:06
shingouztonyyarusso: augh. dpkg --remove && dpkg --install? or just a dpkg-reconfigure?10:06
cafuegonitrous: Check for typoes. Otherwise, use synaptic and simply install it via the interface.10:06
theinenitrous, can you post /etc/apt/sources.list over at http://pastebin.com ?10:06
tonyyarussoshingouz: Try reconf first, and go from there.10:06
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shingouztonyyarusso: lets give it a whack. /me gets a bigger hammer10:07
viper12laptop johanbr .  compaq x1000 512meg ram intel centrino 1.3ghz, 80 gig hitachi drive, the new burner is a pioneer dual layer capable 8x .  the old drive was a cdrom/dvd combo with cdrom burner.10:07
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soapi need help10:07
virogenesisbash: /bin/unrar: Permission denied10:07
virogenesis <--- what the hell?10:07
nitrouscafuego: i'm not sure what synaptic is? and no typos10:07
cafuegonitrous: Synaptic is the GUI package manager.10:07
tonyyarussoReally quick q?: How do I reload a module?10:07
theinenitrous, synaptic won't help you in this case either10:07
cafuegovirogenesis: unrar never lives in /bin10:07
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johanbrviper12: Is the burner connected over usb?10:07
cafuegovirogenesis: /usr/bin/unrar10:08
viper12no. second ide channel as master.  (same as the old burner was. )  just unplugged the old one and put the new one in.10:08
viper12.......while the machine was powered off...........heh heh10:08
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virogenesisi did whereis unrar cafuego and it told me that location10:08
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theinevirogenesis, try "locate unrar"10:09
theinevirogenesis, sorry, I meant "which unrar"...10:09
virogenesisthanks thechris10:09
virogenesisgrrr10:09
virogenesisthanks theine10:10
theinevirogenesis, welcome10:10
viper12The OS was installed with the cdrom burner....this feels like its trying to burn with cd commands instead of dvd commands. (just a guess).  As I KNOW the drive does burn, and it reads/copies perfectly, its almost as if the OS still thinks that its a cdrom burner. -again guessing.10:10
nitrouscafuego: i tried using synaptic and it wasn't in the list on there..nothing to do with php was on there10:10
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theinenitrous, I told you...10:10
nitroustheine, what do you suggest?  and it was still a cool program to check out nonetheless lol10:11
johanbrviper12: I've occasionally had problems on my laptop with DMA turning off mid-burn (stupid kernel). If you're sure that's not happening, my only remaining guess is a hardware problem. Bad IDE cable, maybe.10:11
theinenitrous, you need to fix your repository list10:11
nitroushow do i do that?10:11
theinenitrous, first, post your /etc/apt/sources.list at pastebin.com10:12
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nitrousdeb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted10:12
mitrovarrviper12:  Are you sure the drive works?  My friend had a drive fail recently just like that (tried to burn, but disks were blank)10:12
nitrousthat good enough?10:12
theinenitrous, no, that's not enough10:12
theinenitrous, you need to add online repositories10:13
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theinenitrous, do you see any lines containing the words "main" or "restricted" that are commented out10:13
nitroushttp://pastebin.com/51878810:13
theinenitrous, I mean commented...10:13
nitrousalmost all of it is commented10:13
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viper12mitrovarr,  the discs aren't blank though.  tracks are being written, and its very obvious that they are.  On my dvd burner at home, at completion of a -r disc burn, nautilus finishes by indicating its fixating the disc.  This isn't showing up with this laptop when same process is done.10:14
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yigal-epwdoes anyone know why the ubuntuforums.org is down?10:14
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theinenitrous, just uncomment all the lines starting with "deb" or "deb-src" and you'll be fine10:14
nitrousthanks man i'll give it a try and let you know10:15
theinenitrous, alright10:15
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theinenitrous, you will need to run "apt-get update" afterwards10:15
mitrovarrviper12:  oh.  Well, if you think you are right about the bad detection thing, maybe try using K3B.  I use it to burn DVDs, and it tells you which programs it's using (cd vs. dvd ones>10:15
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yigal-epwgeez, more than 500 people and know one knows why ubuntu web forum is down10:15
Pi!forumsdown10:16
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)10:16
borisattvaits being moved to a new server people10:16
nitroustheine, alright will do10:16
theinenitrous, or rather "sudo apt-get update"10:16
borisattvaheh10:16
yigal-epwubotu THANK YOU sorry for yelling10:16
ubotuyigal-epw: sure thing10:16
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nitrousdoes sudo just make sure you are root or what does it do?10:16
Seveasyigal-epw, more than 500 people and one impatient person can't wait for all of them to rush to answer his very question...10:16
theinenitrous, it gives you root privileges10:17
borisattva'super user do' it allows you to run the following command as if you were a user. provided you supply the password10:17
nitrouscool\10:17
borisattvarootuser*10:17
nitrousya thats what i ment10:17
nitrousthanks10:17
johanbrviper12: Have you run cdrecord or growisofs from the command line? That should clearly tell you if anything goes wrong.10:17
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Seveas!tell nitrous about root10:17
shingouztonyyarusso: hmm.. could it be that the snd-intel8x0m and snd-atiixp-modem getting overridden by hsfmc97ich and hsfmc97sis have something to do with the code 16? enter the snd modules in the banlist, perhaps?10:17
Seveasnitrous, ubotu sent you a very interesting wiki link10:17
borisattvadoes it have bunny porn?10:17
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theinenitrous, so in order to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"10:17
nitroushaha thanks i was just trying to get to that..was gonna try vi under su10:18
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viper12johanbr, that was next step.  I was trying to eliminate the OS as the possible problem.  (This drive burnt a disc in another laptop before being moved to this one.)  I was surprised as hell to produce a coaster as it works in all other ways.10:18
nitrousseveas, you mean ubuntuforums.org?  if so i think that site has more downtime then up lol10:18
Danlwhats a good package for wepkey management for multiple networks?10:18
viper12is there a command line option johan that you use to 'test'?  (as I do not use the command line utils for the burners all that often.)10:19
theinenitrous, well, "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" would be even better of course...10:19
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shingouzviper12: --dummy10:19
tonyyarussoshingouz: Worth a shot.10:19
nitroussudo apt-get update10:19
nitrouslol woops this isn't the terminal10:20
theinenitrous, :)10:20
johanbrviper12: I don't use the command line for burning very often either, I have to admit. I second the suggestion of using k3b. When you burn you can click on something and it gives you all the gory details.10:20
Danl:)10:20
nitroushaha yeah i'm a linux noob10:20
shingouztonyyarusso: does ubuntu have the banlist in some strange place? ;)10:20
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tonyyarussoshingouz: I wouldn't know, sorry.10:20
shingouzheh10:20
Danln/m i think i found a decent one on sourceforge, GWireless10:21
ashrackhi! first time on UBUNTU irc channel. Does anyone know why and when will www.ubuntuforums.org be operatoinal again? since I haven't been able to reach them in 3days so far???10:21
viper12the only 'irk' about k3b............means I"m loading kde libs.  Of course I'm also practical, so I'll snag that one.  Gnomebaker, btw, does show the drive properly as 'detected'....going off to install k3b now.10:21
yigal-epwas ubotu put it to me ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)10:21
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johanbrDanl: Networkmanager is shaping up pretty well. Although I wouldn't recommend upgrading to dapper just yet. :)10:22
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cyphaseNetwork Manager is good in Brezy10:22
Danljohanbr, thanks, may try that one too10:22
cyphasenot in main though10:22
cyphaseBreezy*10:22
Danlkk10:23
theinenitrous, got disconnected... did "sudo apt-get update" work?10:23
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ashrackubuntu:oo sweey today. tanx guys10:23
nitroustheine, yes it did once i closed synaptic haha10:23
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theinenitrous, right10:23
viper12johan and all, ty for the assist.  I'll suss it out.  Usually a quick search in the forums gets me on my way, but as they're down for a new server.........you guys are a big help.  ty.10:23
johanbrviper12: You're welcome. I hope you get it figured out.10:24
mitrovarrso does anyone know if you get a performance boost by using the k7 or 686 kernels as opposed to the generic 386 one?10:24
theinenitrous, so what about "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5"? now10:24
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nitroustheine, i used php4 but yes it installed correctly thank you10:24
theinenitrous, nice10:24
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nitrousonly thing is it still tries to download the file when i browse to the site with a .php extension10:24
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Danlmitrovarr, yes and no10:25
nitrousand i tried restarting apache but same thing10:25
Danlit does give better performance, but often if it goes unnoticed for average users.10:25
mitrovarrDanl:  how so?  I figured that things like 3dnow might not work with the wrong kernel10:25
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mitrovarrDanl:  ah10:25
cyphaseNetwork manager is standard in Dapper, right?10:25
cyphaseor is going to be anyway..10:25
seliniumnitrous, THe file is in your /var/www folder?10:26
nitrousselinium, yes thats correct10:26
Danlgeneric i686 would be somewhat slower than say, something specifically aimed at athlon xp10:26
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mitrovarrDanl:  Do you know if there's anything special you have to do in ubuntu to compile a new kernel?10:26
Danlhaven't messed with ubuntus kernel, only gentoo's10:26
johanbrmitrovarr: A 386 kernel wouldn't use 3dnow, that's right. On the other hand, I don't think there's very much code in the kernel that uses 3dnow anyway. Even if you run a 386 kernel you can still run userspace programs compiled for k7.10:27
mitrovarrDanl:  Ah.  I tried compiling 2.6.15.1 but I got all kinds of wierd errors about devfs on boot.10:27
johanbrcyphase: Yes, I think so.10:27
Danlthe reason behind it being slower is mostly about asm instruction sets, amd has all the x86 instructions same as intel, but both intel and amd have some xtra different codes as well10:27
cyphasecool10:27
mitrovarrjohanbr ann Danl:  thanks for the help guys, I've been asking that all night10:27
Danlyw10:28
johanbrmitrovarr: No problem.10:28
Danli admit i don't know a whole lot about nix, but that is one of the things i do know :-D10:28
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nitroustheine, could it be something in my httpd.conf or should everything be in there by default cuz i looked in there and that all looks normal?10:29
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theinenitrous, sorry, don't know, i'm no web server expert...10:30
Danlwell im off to tinker, just had to do a full system reisntall, so i gotta lot of packages to download and install, should write a shell script to auto install certian things :-)10:30
mitrovarrDanl:  there's always automatix10:30
phreaker!automatix10:30
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:30
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Danllol10:30
seliniumnitrous, i have only just joined the conversation, you are installing php5 on apache2 right?10:30
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mitrovarrwell, I like it.  It's half an hour to a working system.10:30
Danlmay stick with the bash script idea ;-)10:30
shingouzDanl: a mental *not* sounds like a good idea10:31
Danl*note10:31
johanbrnitrous: I seem to remember someone else having that problem and the solution was reconfiguring apache to allow php scripts in that directory to run.10:31
Danlthanks amigos10:31
shingouzthe not is better in this case..10:31
Danlau revior10:31
mitrovarrit is scary looking though.10:31
robotgeekDanl:10:31
robotgeekDanl: heh, hold on :)10:31
Danlya?10:31
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nitrousselinium, yes but php4...and apach2 is already on and working properly..i installed php4 just a minute ago...and restarted apache but it still is trying to downoad the .php files10:31
polpak!easyscript10:31
ubotupolpak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!10:31
nitrousjohanbr, the only way of doing that i know of is in httpd.conf but that all looks normal...i am assuming one of the programs did that for me?10:32
robotgeekDanl: do you have a installed sytem which you want to restore?10:32
seliniumDid you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP ?10:32
polpakor rather10:32
polpakubotu tell mitrovarr about easyubuntu10:32
khermansanyone here fluent in javascript?10:32
johanbrnitrous: Not necessarily, but I don't know for sure. I'm not an apache expert.10:32
Danli just got to gnome, haven't even added first package yet10:32
mitrovarrthat's good to know, although I've already set up all three of my systems with the bad one.10:33
robotgeekDanl: hmm, okay. look for script at easybreezy.robotgeek.org, or feel free to take ideas from there10:33
nitrousselinium, no i didn't but i will try that out thanks10:33
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Danlthe machine im playing on has a hdd issue where the partition table and data corrupts alot, so i reinstall 3-5 times a month :-D10:33
mitrovarrDanl:  Man, I'm glad my hard drive doesn't do that10:34
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johanbrDanl: New hard drives are cheap nowadays. :)10:34
robotgeekDanl: ahh, sneak a peek at the end of the script then :)10:34
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polpakDanl: well you can start with easyubuntu, and then keep a list of the other packages you like and just apt-get them all in one shot10:34
mitrovarrDanl:  Although mine's got bad sectors and thus is somewhat frightening to use.10:34
Danlit's a laptop and something with the power connector broke, sent in to have fixed (thank god for warrenties) and ever since the hdd has been stupid10:34
seliniumnitrous, Ok, If I were you sudo dpgk -P php4 apache2 blah blah blah before starting to purge the previous stuff.10:34
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robotgeekDanl: dpkg --get-selections >> file , later sudo dpkg --set-selection < file and sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade10:35
Danlk10:35
Danlthanks guys10:35
Danlbuenos noches10:35
robotgeekDanl: later10:35
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johanbrWell, gotta go. Good night everyone.10:36
bart1105hello everyone10:36
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Pygi!ff1.510:37
ubotuYou can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion10:37
mitrovarrdoes anyone know of anything important firefox 1.5 improves?10:37
mitrovarrI haven't really felt a difference, personally, on the computers I have it on10:38
nitrousselinium, i tried out that site and still the same thing :S10:38
holy_cowmitrovarr, really?10:38
holy_cowhere, do this10:38
holy_cowopen ff 1.0.x and open up 100 tabs ....10:38
shindore: Firefox 1.5, personally, I think that they've just cleaned up the gui a bit10:38
holy_cowdoesn't matter how, open up a folder with 100 links if you like10:38
holy_cowwatch your cpu/ram consumption10:39
holy_cowexperiment 2:10:39
shindotabs can be reorganized, bookmarking tabs is more comfortable, etc10:39
holy_cowtake ff 1.5 and open up 100 tabs10:39
seliniumnitrous, i have used that wiki lots of times with no problems.... :(10:39
holy_cowwatch your cpu/ram remain static10:39
bart1105anybody familiar with edubuntu?10:39
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nitrousselinium, ya it looks straightforward and i recieved no errors..i dunno why it isn't working :S10:39
mitrovarrholy_cow:  Alright, let me actually try that.  I have 1. 5 on this one10:39
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borisattvahas anyone here been able to install network manager?10:39
cyphaseborisattva, me10:40
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cyphaseborisattva, on breezy10:40
borisattvacyphase: what pacakeg did you use to install the dhcdbd?10:40
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torbenhello10:40
borisattvaoh.. i'm trying to install it on dapper, and i get programming syntax errors after succesfull configure.10:40
cyphaseborisattva, i just installed the network-manager package..10:40
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borisattvado you remember which repo it was available from?10:41
cyphaseborisattva, universe i think10:41
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borisattvathanks10:41
nitrousselinium, should the httpd.conf file say anything about php.ini cuz mine doesn't?10:41
mitrovarralright, 10 tabs of fark.com on 1.0.7 is taking 109 mb10:41
cyphaseoh wait..10:41
cyphaseborisattva, my mistake10:42
cyphasei just installed a deb10:42
cyphasenot form a repo10:42
cyphasefrom*10:42
seliniumnitrous, I am just re-installing it all myself, one moment...10:42
mitrovarrit's reading exactly the same on 1.510:42
nitrousselinium, thanks10:42
borisattvaoh, ok thanks i'll look for that10:42
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floyd_n_milanwill Ubuntu work smoothly, if not fast, on a P3 500 something MHz with 96MB RAM?10:44
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holy_cowfloyd_n_milan, no10:44
holy_cowmitrovarr, i said 100 tabs, not 5, wtf is wrong with you?10:44
holy_cowlol10:44
holy_cowits 5 pages of html dude10:44
floyd_n_milanmhmmm10:44
mitrovarrholy_cow:  I wanted my computers to continue to operate?10:44
holy_cowtry opening up huge volumes of pages with flash too10:44
floyd_n_milanwhat Linux should i install on that computer then? :s10:45
holy_cowmitrovarr, your experiment is useless ... the point is 1.5 has much improved memory handling10:45
holy_cowand 1.5 will remain completely operational with 100 tabs10:45
holy_coweven if all of them have flash10:45
holy_cowfloyd_n_milan, as much ram as you can afford10:45
mitrovarrholy_cow:  not on this computer, it's a 800mhz with 256mb of ram.  It would die horribly.10:45
holy_cow500 mhz is okay for cpu, you need lots and lots of ram10:45
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holy_cowmite, no it wont10:45
holy_cowtry 1.510:46
owneryeah 1.5 is much better10:46
floyd_n_milanholy_cow, yeah, duh, that's the problem :/10:46
mitrovarrholy_cow:  know a way to open lots of tabs fast, then?10:46
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shindofloyd: mine is running fine on an AMD K-6-2 450mhz10:46
holy_cowmitrovarr, i told you, middle click on a folder in bookmarks  with lots of links in it10:46
ownermitro get an rss stream10:46
ownerand open all in tabs10:46
ownerhehe10:46
shindoI've got more RAM, and the machine isn't fast, but it works just fine10:46
ownerhttp://news.bbc.co.uk/10:47
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shindoI havn't used GIMP or anything else that really requires a bunch of cycles10:47
holy_cowwhat shindo said flodine 500 mhz cpu will be okay, you really need mostly ram ... a faster hd will also improve yoru system drastically without you having to buy a whole new cpu/mobo/ram combination10:47
shindoas a server it's just dandy10:47
floyd_n_milanyeah mhmmm10:47
mitrovarrheh10:47
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mitrovarrjust to play, the other day I set up a server on a p16610:48
seliniumnitrous, i am still here.... :)10:48
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nitrousselinium, haha thanks10:48
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ownermitro what kind of server10:48
mitrovarrowner:  OpenBSD10:48
mitrovarrowner:  oh, and just apache and ssh, nothing fancy10:48
mitrovarrholy_cow:  wow, it does run well with all those tabs.  I've been being really careful about opening tabs because of how crappy 1.0.7 was with memory10:49
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holy_cow*nod*10:49
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holy_cow:)10:49
mitrovarrholy_cow:  did they fix the memory accumulation thing?10:49
holy_cownot sure actually, i've never had an issue with that because i always have gigs of ram10:50
seliniumnitrous, no reference to php in httpd.conf10:50
mitrovarrholy_cow: where it would just accumulate memory as long as you left it open, so you have to close it every once in a while?10:50
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nitrousselinium, i have more progress...lol it is now working..except i have an issue with permissions...10:50
mitrovarrholy_cow:  Ah.  This is kind of a cheap, old computer that I mostly just use to watch internet tv and netsurf, so it feels it when something's eating ram.10:50
holy_cowmitrovarr, i've always used linux, i've never seen that here i thought that was only a windows thing10:50
nitrousbecause index.php every time i create it and then view it the file will try to download..but if i call it anything else like test.php it views perfectly..any ideas?10:50
holy_cownot always, i mean i've used it for the last couple of years exclusively10:51
seliniumoh, ok, permissions are setup in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf10:51
nbjaymehello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(10:51
mitrovarrholy_cow:  internet TV?  ess.tv can be made to work in linux, the problem is you have to have a playlist, you can't just browse streams10:51
holy_cownot internet tv, i meant moz ram leak i thought wasonly windows10:51
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h2theizzohey10:52
h2theizzois there anyway i can setup ubuntu to upgrade once a night10:52
mitrovarrholy_cow:  oh, no, it affected me earlier.  I had to reinstall this system to change hard drives, and it quit doing that, but I thought it just hadn't shown up yet.  Really it must have been because when I reinstalled I just went straight to 1.510:52
h2theizzolike auto run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade10:52
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mitrovarrh2theizzo:  I suppose you could probably use cron10:53
AMDXPhi there the forums are down hard10:53
h2theizzooh yeah10:53
h2theizzowhats cron?10:53
bart1105can anyone help me with edubuntu?10:53
nbjaymehello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(10:53
holy_cowmitrovarr, on linux or windows?10:53
AMDXPhow can install the xubuntu-desktop10:53
mitrovarrh2theizzo:  it does things on a timed basis, but I don't know how to use it10:53
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mitrovarrholy_cow:  linux10:53
floyd_n_milanwe met Mark Shuttleworth yesterday, it was interesting.10:53
holy_cowubuntu only has 1.0.x you know10:53
holy_cowthe only way to go to 1.5 is to manually dl and set it up or run some backport or whatever10:54
mitrovarrholy_cow:  Yeah, but I used automatix (didn't know it was bad) and it WILL give you 1.510:54
owneryes mitro10:54
ownerit will10:54
holy_cowwtf is automatix?10:54
robotgeek!automatix10:54
ubotufrom memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!10:54
h2theizzoautomatic10:54
h2theizzospelled funny10:54
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mitrovarrholy_cow:  apparently something bad, but I didn't know at the time10:54
h2theizzohahaha10:54
h2theizzosounds stable10:54
robotgeekowner: it still uses --force-yes10:54
h2theizzosounds as stable as win9810:54
h2theizzo:\10:54
ownerhas that been confirmed robot10:54
mitrovarrh2theizzo:  I know, but I swear it hasn't caused any (evident) problems for me10:55
AMDXPi used that to set up a lot of my apps it was in the forum10:55
h2theizzook10:55
h2theizzohehe10:55
cyphasecan we get someone to make some really nice sounds for Dapper?10:55
floyd_n_milannbjayme, Unichrome... i have the same, i added an NVIDIA card when i found that i couldn't get hardware acceleration working.. though Xorg 7 has improved drivers for that card...10:55
h2theizzo!cron10:55
ubotuparse error: dunno what you're talking about, h2theizzo10:55
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mitrovarrh2theizzo:  it is, however, EXTREMELY worrysome looking.  It looks like it was made by a script kiddie.10:55
h2theizzohehehe10:55
h2theizzo!package cron10:55
ubotuh2theizzo: What?10:55
h2theizzohmm10:55
mitrovarrh2theizzo:  I mean it actually uses 'u' for 'you' in the startup sequence.  That's some high rent programming, right there.10:55
h2theizzohahaha10:55
ownerlol mitro10:55
h2theizzosome lazy bastard10:56
holy_cowautomatix looks like it uses dpkg no?10:56
robotgeekholy_cow: that's just the packaging, internally it's still evil10:56
h2theizzoi used dpkg to install djbdns and i cant find where it installed10:56
ownerits funny there is a split in the ubuntu community10:56
holy_cowrobotgeek, really?10:56
ownerthe forum staff all love it10:56
ownerand the irc people hate it10:56
holy_cowmind me askin in what way?10:56
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holy_cowjust curious i belive it's evil :)10:56
cyphaseowner, i don't hate ubuntu..10:56
cyphase:)10:56
mitrovarrit sure looks evil, but it was really helpful10:57
cyphaseoh..10:57
ownerwe are talking about automatix cyphase10:57
cyphasenvm10:57
cyphaseyea10:57
cyphasemy mistake :S10:57
mitrovarrbut I was worrying the whole time that it was going to rootkit me or something10:57
cyphasei don't know how i thought for a second you were saying the irc people hate ubuntu10:57
robotgeekowner: join #ubuntu-offtopic10:58
ownerok10:58
robotgeekholy_cow: yes, really10:58
holy_cowmitrovarr, there is always a chance of that ... with open source tho we are bound to find out eventually and remove it from the community10:58
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mitrovarrholy_cow:  I hope so.10:58
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cyphasedoes anyone have a musician frind who might be able to make some really nice sounds for ubuntu?10:58
cyphasefriend*10:58
nitrousselinium, you still there?10:59
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seliniumnitrous, yep10:59
nitrousany ideas whats up with my settings....it will open up test.php etc but will try to download index.php10:59
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nbjaymethanks for the reply, flolyd_n_milan.10:59
holy_cowokay i'll search automatix evil when forums is back up :)11:00
holy_cowrobotgeek, thx for the heads up11:00
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robotgeekholy_cow: no problems, we don't like to tell ppl that their machine is foobared11:00
mitrovarrholy_cow:  I'm curious what the results are.  It seemed like something that certainly should exist... it allowed you to put nearly every important thing for a desktop system on the computer fast11:00
nitrousselinium, are you lookin into it?11:01
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seliniumnitrous, sorry, you didn't beep me. I didn't hear! :) I am thinking now... :)11:02
ssdohello can i ask about gstreamer0.10 in dapper?11:02
nitroushaha alright thanks11:02
kubiatyo11:02
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holy_cowmitrovarr, me too, but frankly that is why you have synaptic11:02
kubiatjest tu kto  z polski jak tak to niech si odedzwie11:02
cyphasesomeone give me a random infrastructure idea for Gnome 311:02
holy_cowmitrovarr, everything you learned in the windows world should be forgotten simply imho11:02
borisattva!polish11:02
ubotuborisattva: Do they come in packets of five?11:02
cyphasenot everything..11:02
borisattvaheh11:02
ssdohow come i can still see gstreamer0.8 in my synaptic? how do i use gsstreamer.1011:02
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Seveaskubiat, please stick to english in here11:03
hamdanneed help11:03
Seveas!pl11:03
ubotuMozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl11:03
h2theizzoso about that cron11:03
Seveasssdo, only dapper has 0.1011:03
hamdanjust installed ubuntu11:03
h2theizzohow could u do like a scheduled task11:03
kubiatok11:03
Seveash2theizzo, one-time task? use at11:03
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h2theizzono11:03
h2theizzoi mean11:03
h2theizzoonce a day11:03
seliniumnitrous, in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   do you have this line?   DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml11:03
mitrovarrholy_cow:  well, windows doesn't even let you do that.  You have to go around and hunt down all the different programs, and use things like realplayer and (ugh) quicktime11:03
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Seveash2theizzo, man crontab :)11:04
h2theizzocrontab?11:04
borisattvaspeaking of gstreamer. i installed it on breezy via src and my synaptic still shows 8... is that normal? usually what ever i install ends up there11:04
selinium'lo Seveas11:04
ssdoyup i am on dapper right now11:04
Seveasoi selinium11:04
nitrousselinium, yes i do11:04
hamdanjust installed on one of my pcs located on a LAN...other pcs are on win xp11:04
_XA_XA_hahhaah11:04
Seveasssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade11:04
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ssdoi dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper11:04
hamdancant connect to a local printer11:04
h2theizzoerm11:04
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h2theizzocontrab -e ssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade11:05
h2theizzo?11:05
seliniumnitrous, ok, strange....  and it has index.php    in it?11:05
ssdodo i have remove gstreamer0.8 to use gstreamer0.1011:05
nitrousselinium, yes it has it there11:05
h2theizzooh nm11:05
h2theizzoheh11:05
Seveash2theizzo, no, that other line was something for ssdo :)11:05
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Seveasssdo, I would think so, but am not sure11:05
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h2theizzoi am sofa king we tod did11:05
m0ns00nHey!11:05
m0ns00nI am experiencing a bug with firefox running on ubuntu11:05
m0ns00nThe official build11:06
m0ns00nhttp://www.sub-ether.org/problem.png11:06
seliniumnitrous , i now you have probably done this houndreds of times but can you      sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   and try again11:06
m0ns00nhttp://www.sub-ether.org/artifact.png11:06
Seveasm0ns00n, mozilla.org firefox builds are not supported on ubuntu11:06
hamdananyone11:06
m0ns00nSeveas: it must be a gtk related problem11:06
m0ns00nPerhaps11:06
selinium!enter11:06
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!11:06
m0ns00nSeveas: Sure, but the problem might still be in Ubuntu.11:07
Seveasm0ns00n, i see no bug in that small image...11:07
m0ns00nSeveas: As it's not reproducable on all other systems.11:07
nitrousselinium, i tried and its still doin it11:07
m0ns00nYes, one of them has a 1 px space11:07
seliniumok11:07
m0ns00nWhich happens when I hover with the mouse over11:07
m0ns00nAnd it also happens on www.mozilla.com and other sites11:07
m0ns00nVery annoying, the images move11:07
seliniumnitrous, pm?11:08
m0ns00nAlso the text in the tabs move11:08
Seveasm0ns00n, never happened to me with ubuntu builds of firefox11:08
m0ns00nTry to find somebody it did happen with ;)11:08
nitrousselinium, if pm means private messaging yes sure but i dont know how11:08
hamdanthe problem is, ive just installed ubuntu on one of my pc's located on a LAN (other pcs are win xp based). the installation went well, however i cant seem to print on a printer attached to one of the other pcs. can anyone help?11:08
m0ns00nbbl11:08
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seliniumnitrous, are you using xchat?11:09
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mitrovarrhamdan:  is the printer shared using windows file/network sharing or a networked printer?11:09
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jbzzhamdan:    Maybe I can help sir11:10
hamdanmitrovarr: its just using windows file/network/printer sharing11:10
hamdanthanks jbzz11:10
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mitrovarrhamdan:  ok.  Go to system -> administration -> printing, then 'new printer'11:10
mailomailo11:11
seliniumnitrous, hello.... :)11:11
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mitrovarrhamdan:  Then select 'network printer' and change the option box from CUPS to Windows Printer (smb)11:11
h2theizzohey11:11
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mitrovarrhamdan:  Hopefully the samba shares on the network will appear and you can find your printer and connect to it.  And hope there's a driver for it, because linux printer support is not total.11:12
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ashrackon my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel11:12
h2theizzoif u setup the crontab, to run daily at 2300 hours, like apt-update and apt-upgrade,wouldnt it have to read sudo apt-upgrade n stuff,so i would have to be here for it right?11:12
nitrousselinium, yes i am using xchat11:12
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netstarWhere can I get KDE 3.5 from for ubuntu?11:12
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seliniumnitrous, Ok do a    ls -a /var/www     and paste your result in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:12
h2theizzoapt-get install kde11:13
nitrousselinium, i got your pm and replied back but i'm assuming you aren't getting them?11:13
netstarh2theizzo, isn't that an older version than 3.5?11:13
h2theizzolemmy c11:13
rraajjHi all! What do I have to do to solve the "error: C compiler cannot create executables" problem when compiling?11:13
seliniumnitrous, we can not pm as you need to have your nick registered11:13
h2theizzowell either way11:13
jbzzhamdan:  What is sharing the printer?  XP ?11:13
hamdanmitrovarr : i have done all that i i have an icon in my printer window indicating the printer as ready, however when i try to print the printer does not print.11:13
h2theizzonitrous,you could probly enable the repository11:13
h2theizzoand get the one not recommended11:13
h2theizzou tried kubuntu?11:14
nitroushttp://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750911:14
h2theizzoits kde lovers version11:14
netstarh2theizzo, nope.11:14
mitrovarrhamdan:  So the driver list had the driver for your printer, right?11:14
nitrousselinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/750911:14
olicathi all, my server just locked up. in the apache logs i see this a few times: Ouch!  malloc failed in malloc_block()11:14
seliniumSeveas, how do I start a channel and invite someone who doesn't have their nick registered for pm type work?11:14
hamdanjbzz: all pc's on my network share the printer..yes all xp11:14
olicatany ideas what that means?11:14
olicatno memory/swap, maybe?11:14
hamdanmitrovarr : yes11:14
nitrousselinium, they all work except index.php11:14
hamdanmitrovarr : laserjet-4-plus11:14
seliniumnitrous, oops,    ls -l /var/www    sorry11:14
AMDXPi installed the xubuntu desktop i just have to reboot correct and it should come up11:15
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jbzzhamdan:  I have a Windows 2000 Pro in the basement that shares a printer.  My Ubuntu system is in another room.  I am on the Ubuntu system now.11:15
mitrovarrhamdan:  Hmm...  What are you trying to print with?  I can't get some programs to print, like the ones use gimp-print11:15
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nitrousselinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751011:15
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jbzzhamdan:  Have you tried to creat a priner on the Ubuntu system that connects to the share on the XP machine?11:15
h2theizzois the .conf setup right for that dir?11:16
h2theizzonitrous11:16
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h2theizzomy kde is installed its version 5.4411:16
nitroush2theizzo, i have no idea lol11:16
h2theizzoand thats under ubuntu11:16
hamdanjbzz: no im trying to connect the ubuntu system to the printer on the xp system11:16
nitroush2theizzo, yes its under ubuntu and it does have it set to include index.php for index but i dunno about the rest11:16
mitrovarrhamdan:  It might help if you went over to the XP system and watched the print monitor as you tried to print, that'll show you if your computer is seeing the share and sending data11:17
jbzzhamdan:  Right, I understand.  But have you tried to create a printer connection on the Ubuntu machine  that connects to the XP printer?11:17
hamdanmitrovarr: im just trying to print from ubuntu..some office docs etc11:17
h2theizzook11:18
h2theizzobut11:18
mitrovarrhamdan:  I'm out of ideas, then.  I have gotten samba printing working in ubuntu, so it's not broken.11:18
h2theizzosorry about the enter :( but did u install apache2-php?11:18
ashracknotebook:Cel 2400,512MB RAM,40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd?Would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel11:18
nitroush2theizzo, php is all working..just the index.php wont let you view it just tries to download...like test.php for example will work11:18
chemical_dsHi. Is there any way i can view the boot messages once my computer has already started?11:18
h2theizzowow11:18
jbzzhamdan:  I understand.  But have you attempted to create a printer on the Ubuntu system yet that connects to the XP system?11:19
h2theizzois the site where i can access it?11:19
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h2theizzomaybe its your browser>11:19
mitrovarrhamdan:  Your printer has 4 different drivers available in the printer dialogs, maybe you should try another?11:19
jbzzhamdan:  System   -   Administration  - Printing11:19
nitroush2theizzo, no i'm behind a router nd it would take too long to configure to go to this machine11:19
h2theizzoyeah s alright11:19
h2theizzomaybe your browser dont support php? its doubtfull but.. maybe thats why its trying to dl it11:19
nitroush2theizzo and selinium, any ideas?11:19
nitrousit does support php though becasue test.php works...11:20
mitrovarrhamdan:  after you select your printer from the list, you can choose a different driver for that specific printer from the dialog box under the list.  It's certainly worth trying to others to see if one of them works.11:20
h2theizzook11:20
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h2theizzoi dont know,i just givin thoughts man :P11:20
nitroushaha aight11:20
hamdanok11:20
h2theizzothinkgs i would check if mine didnt work anyways11:20
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hamdani'll try it..btw i love ubuntu..this is great!11:20
nitrousselinium, you still here?11:20
seliniumnitrous, so testphp.php works, but index.php doesn't?    try looking up index.php?11:21
h2theizzonitrous mines up,but the page sucks, http://71.36.110.21611:21
jbzzhamdan:  Yes I have come to appreciiate Ubuntu after trying others.11:21
hamdangood job to everyone involve in this..!!!!11:21
seliniumnitrous, with the '?'11:21
nitrouslol http://localhost/index.php? works11:21
nitrousselinium, what does that mean since index.php? works?11:21
seliniumnitrous, browser cacheing!11:22
h2theizzonitrous,if u know how to do html,maybe you can make index.html redirect to index.php11:22
nitrousPOS lol11:22
jbzzhamdan:  Do not be surprised if the connection fails.  There are round about ways to attack the problem.11:22
=== sugoruyo hi all
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sugoruyois there any chance ubuntu or linux for that matter11:23
nitrousselinium, thank you so much that was all it was11:23
sugoruyois incompatible with my network card?11:23
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seliniumnitrous, all you needed to do was do a Ctrl-F5 for a browser refresh. You will get this kind of thing all the time when web dev'ing11:23
h2theizzowhat kind of network card, most are11:23
mitrovarrsugoruyo:  it's possible, I've heard there's a couple that don't work still11:23
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osfameronany suggestions on what do do when my USB mouse hangs regularly11:23
h2theizzoi have like 6 network cards,all work fine,different brands too11:24
osfameron(Breezy)11:24
nitrousselinium, ya i should have known just wasn't thinkin...thanks you so much11:24
h2theizzoosfameron mine does too,it laggs around the screen real bad11:24
osfameronunplug and plugin works ok, but kindof annyoing11:24
seliniumnitrous, NP glad we worked it out, I was going crazy!11:24
osfameronh2theizzo: in my case the lag isn't too bad, but it just stops occasionally11:24
nitrousselinium, you weren't the only one...but i gotta go to sleep now though...i work in 7 hours and still gotta sleep before then so thanks again...maybe i'll talk to ya another time11:24
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sugoruyoi have an MSI 865PE-Neo2V mainboard the onboard ethernet gets detected and all by linux but it won't work11:25
h2theizzolol i dont know wich is worst, when i move mine it twitches real bad,so i move it to far,or not far enough,takes forever to get to where i want to click11:25
seliniumok nitrous, i have gotta go too, see ya around! :)11:25
sugoruyoother distros will work with the LAN but not the inet11:25
sugoruyoother won't work at all11:25
h2theizzosugoruyo maybe it needs to be configed with the right ip's/dns/gateways11:25
mitrovarrsugoruyo:  Sure it's not just a bad network configuration?11:25
Ismaelis the gimp preconfonfigured in such way the conf wizard is not launched the first time?11:25
h2theizzoim on a dsl router,so  ihave to manually enter all that11:25
sugoruyoit is11:25
osfameron!mouse11:25
ubotumouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev11:25
sugoruyoyeah me too11:26
sugoruyoi have done so11:26
sugoruyobut still no connection11:26
h2theizzowho is your provider?11:26
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sugoruyomy ISP you mean?11:26
osfameronbah, ubuntuforums not working11:26
h2theizzoyeah11:26
osfameron!usb11:26
ubotuSyntax error in line 1, osfameron11:26
mshadeyou can mount SMB shares easily in ubuntu, is there an NFS mounting utility?11:26
h2theizzoyeah NFS is on ubuntu11:26
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sugoruyoyou wouldn't know them... i'm in greece11:26
h2theizzok11:26
hamdanjbzz: how do i know if i have my ubuntu system prperly set up on my network?11:27
mshadei have a file server set up as samba and NFS, but i'd prefer to access it as a part of my filesystem rather than through smb:// hooks11:27
sugoruyothe thing is sometimes ubuntu won't even ping the router11:27
h2theizzomine was a pain in the butt to setup,took a while to figure out,but.. maybe could help11:27
mshadeis there a way?11:27
h2theizzodoes yours run Nat?11:27
h2theizzo!nat11:27
ubotuh2theizzo: I give up, what is it?11:27
mshade!nfs11:27
ubotufrom memory, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.11:27
sugoruyoi'm not sure11:27
sugoruyoi think so11:27
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h2theizzook the computers on your lan,do they come up with ips like 192.168.#.#11:27
orion_fr_24 how can I add virtual folder to proftpd ?11:27
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jbzzhamdan:  Well actually that depends on what you have got set up.  Sometimes firewalls, etc. will make you go crazy.11:28
troophi. i get an boot error... inode 3696285 has illegal blocks ..unexpected inconsistency. run fsck manually...fsck failed ...etc...etc....what is it?and what can i do ?11:28
sugoruyoi have static IPs assigned by hand in the LAN11:28
h2theizzoyeah thats fine11:28
C2ODehow to restore Uslash after compiling a vanilla kernel 2.6.15-1?11:28
h2theizzowhatever u set them at11:28
h2theizzodid u set your nix box the same ip?11:28
jbzzhamdan:  Your IP numbers must be similar, your hosts file or DHCP has to be set up properly, etc.11:28
hamdanjbzz: well no, all firewall turned off...basically its one pc running on ubuntu and 4 others on xp on a LAN11:29
sugoruyoi set it to the IP it's supposed to have11:29
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Ismaelguys, we are working in the manual for an ubuntu derivate, anybody knows such detail about gimp?11:29
h2theizzothen your subnet should be 255.255.255.0, the gateway should be the IP of your DSL box, like mines 192.168.0.111:29
sugoruyoi know11:29
h2theizzothen the dns ips are my isps dns ips11:29
AMDXPanyone know how to start beem media player from xterm???11:29
sugoruyoall the IPs are configured11:29
h2theizzook11:29
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jbzzhamdan:  That would help.  Sometimes a pind to another machine will instill confidence.11:29
h2theizzohah u know what,do you have firewire on that pc?11:29
sugoruyomachine, gateway, the two DNSs11:29
h2theizzothe 1394 adapters11:29
sugoruyonope11:29
jbzzhamdan:   a 'ping'  I meant11:29
h2theizzodo u have any other type of connection?11:29
sugoruyonope11:30
h2theizzoid make sure that eth0 is the default11:30
shindoanybody know if I can use bind9 to update a dynamic ip? (e.g. dyndns)11:30
hamdanjbzz : how do i initiate a ping? do u mind teaching me?11:30
sugoruyoit's the only one11:30
h2theizzowow11:30
h2theizzomy prob was i had the 1394,didnt see it at first hadda disable it11:30
h2theizzoyou happen to have another network card u could put in there n try out?11:30
jbzzhamdan:  Basically you go to a 'terminal' session and type   ping  192.168.0.3    ro whatever the IP is for another machine in the office.11:31
sugoruyonot right now11:31
h2theizzok11:31
shindohamdan: $ ping <address>11:31
h2theizzorun the terminal, do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart11:31
jbzzhamdan:  You should get something that indicates it 'got a reply'11:31
h2theizzosee if it says ok, or failed11:31
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hamdanok ill try that11:31
hamdanbrb11:31
shindoctrl-c to stop11:31
sugoruyoi'm on a mac11:31
sugoruyoright now11:31
jbzzhamdan:  Do you have DHCP set up to issue IP numbers?11:32
sugoruyothe ubuntu machine is running11:32
h2theizzooh,the pc isnt near you?11:32
h2theizzothats fine11:32
sugoruyoi ping the ubuntu machine from the mac11:32
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h2theizzoit wont hurt the ubuntu box11:32
sugoruyoit's on the same desk11:32
h2theizzok11:32
sugoruyoit responds11:32
h2theizzoreally11:32
h2theizzotheres something there thne,i think its trying to look up off something else other then the network card11:32
h2theizzoor thats what it seems like its acting like11:32
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h2theizzou have the ubuntu firewall installed or sumthin?11:33
sugoruyono11:33
sugoruyojust installed11:33
h2theizzocan you ssh into the box?11:33
sugoruyotried to hit update11:33
sugoruyois it installed by default?11:33
sugoruyohow do i use it11:33
h2theizzoi dont remember11:33
h2theizzoheh11:33
sugoruyoi can ping from the ubuntu11:34
sugoruyoto the mac11:34
sugoruyook11:34
sugoruyoi can ping the router11:34
sugoruyook11:34
h2theizzoand it responds?11:34
sugoruyoi ping some address which i think is the NAT11:34
sugoruyoand it also responds11:34
sugoruyobut pinging something like a website it won't11:34
h2theizzohmm is your synaptic setup to download off the US servers?11:34
h2theizzomaybe it cant reach there11:34
mitrovarrwell, I'm out of here.  Goodnight, all11:35
h2theizzonight11:35
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sugoruyopinging www.ubuntulinux.org works11:35
sugoruyopinging most greek sites doesn't11:35
sugoruyotrying to load pages in firefox doesn't11:35
sugoruyowtf?!11:35
sugoruyothis is beyond weird11:36
h2theizzocan u use irssi or xchat and get on irc11:36
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sugoruyook now it's updating the list of packages from the repos....11:36
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sugoruyoi don't get this11:36
sugoruyosome boots work fine11:37
sugoruyosome don't11:37
sugoruyoi need my pills11:37
sugoruyo:D11:37
orion_fr_24how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???11:37
sugoruyoi'll try to see what's causing this later11:37
sugoruyothx tho11:37
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ashrackon my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel11:37
sugoruyogtg11:37
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JaneWdoes anyone here know what is going on with the forums?11:38
h2theizzoservers moving11:38
ashrackjane theyr being moved11:38
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ssdoyeah, the forums are down11:38
JaneWoic, thanks11:38
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ssdowhen are the forums be back11:38
JaneWanyone have details? Who, when, where etc?11:38
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ssdois there a channel for dapper?11:39
JaneWssdo: what specifically?11:39
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Frio11:39
JaneWssdo: #ubuntu-devel deals with current development, which is Dapper atm..11:39
ssdoi am testing dapper flight 3 and i want to ask about gstreamer .1011:39
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Ngorion_fr_24: I'd suggest that if you need to ask, you probably don't want to ;)11:39
JaneWssdo: try asking there11:39
graphello11:40
Frim getting linux at schoool at the moment ! boorig11:40
Madeyeguys, moving files from ext2/3 to rieserfs will currept them?11:40
orion_fr_24Ng: could you answer me please instead of mocking11:40
ssdohow implemented is gstreamer0.10 in dapper flight3? I have in my synaptic both gstreamer0.8 and the gstreamer0.10, which among them i am using?11:40
Ngorion_fr_24: I'm not mocking, I'm advisint11:41
grapim trying to compile bmpx and i need some libraries that I can find, but the problem comes when I try to install fam, this program wants to eliminate about 250 mb11:41
orion_fr_24Ng: will I find an update option during install11:41
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owneryou dont need fam if you have gam grap11:41
AMDXPbrb11:41
grapI think i chose the wrong lib11:41
grapowner, what?11:41
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ownergamin11:41
Ngorion_fr_24: if you really want to, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with dapper, but be aware that it can and probably will break a bunch of times between now and release and you are unlikely to get much help fixing it11:41
ownerits the file monitoring system11:42
ownerlike fam11:42
grapowner, i have it installe11:42
grapd11:42
h2theizzois dapper the next release?11:42
h2theizzo!dapper11:42
ubotudapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.11:42
h2theizzoNg,will it be easy to update to dapper when it is released?11:42
Ngh2theizzo: yes :)11:42
h2theizzolike can i do apt-upgrade11:43
grapbmpx says that it needs fam.h11:43
Ngh2theizzo: yep11:43
h2theizzoive never upgraded a linux before11:43
grapconfigure: error: "Cannot find FAM"11:43
h2theizzoalways did a fresh install11:43
orion_fr_24Ng: how can I update now ?11:43
h2theizzoits not suggested11:43
h2theizzo:\11:43
graporion_fr_24, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade11:43
hamdanjbzz: dhcp set up?11:43
Nggrap: you may need to install libgamin-dev11:43
grapNg, i'll try11:43
orion_fr_24grap:  ok thx11:43
jbzzhamdan:  Do you have a way of issuing IP numbers in the office there?11:44
hamdanall on auto11:44
jbzzhamdan:  Or do you just pick numbers and use them?11:44
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h2theizzoi find if i use random numbers it works better11:44
h2theizzo69.420.187.66611:44
hamdanjbzz : auto assign ip's11:45
h2theizzobhahaha11:45
h2theizzobbl thanks :P11:45
grapNg, it worked11:45
grapXD11:45
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jbzzhamdan:  OK.   Then you can ping another machine by using the IP number or the name of the machine.11:45
dbglthi all, I've just installed ubuntu onto my other machine, but I need a package for it to connect to the internet11:45
jbzzhamdan:  Can you ping the machine that is sharing the printer?11:45
dbglthttp://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl - that is the package I need. Is there a way to download it in advance?11:45
olicathi folks. i've ordered a new mac book pro. what do you reckon the odds are of the mouse working properly with ubuntu? :) (ie 1 finger moves the mouse, 2 fingers control vert/horiz scrolling)11:46
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dbgltit is part of "universe"11:46
dbgltno matter, found out how!11:46
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hamdanjbzz : how do i ' ping' using the computer name ?11:47
CompShrinkis the forum down, or is it on my end?11:47
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jbzzhamdan:   Assume one computer (XP) is named 'Unit-2'   then you type     ping unit-211:47
perriehello all11:47
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hamdanfrom here?11:48
hamdanfrom this window u mean?11:48
liablehamdan: that name has to be in your host file though for it to work.11:48
hamdanyeah11:48
jbzzhamdan:  The name unit-2 should get translated to a number automatically then the number is used to reach the machine called   unit-211:48
perrieI have installed a ssh-server on my machine is it only a matter of closeing the firewall to connect from a remote machine11:49
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hamdanjbzz: where do i do this ping?11:49
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CompShrinkhamdan, type that in a console, not in irc11:49
jbzzhamdan:  Start up a 'terminal' window11:49
cyphasewhat's this about Google developing their own version of ubuntu? "Goobuntu"11:50
jbzzhamdan:  Application  -  Accessories  -  Terminal11:50
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hamdanok11:50
hamdanhamdan@etsb03:~$11:50
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AMDXPoh well so much for that11:51
AMDXPmy xfce4 is foobared11:52
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hamdaniunknown host11:52
ownerhow?11:52
hamdanunknown host11:52
jbzzhamdan:   Sounds like you cannot translate the name to an IP number.11:52
AMDXPi changed the display and i couldnt change it back it was unreadable11:52
AMDXPi tried to uninstall it and reinstall it11:52
AMDXPand its still foobared11:53
jbzzhamdan:   Try to ping to the IP number   as in     ping   192.168.1.1211:53
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hamdanmy computer name etsb03, when i typed ping etsb03 its pinging11:54
hamdanhamdan@etsb03:~$ ping etsb0311:54
jbzzhamdan:   Yes you can ping yourself.11:54
hamdanjbzz : how do i stop pinging myseld :)11:55
CompShrinkhamdan, what os is the other comp on?11:55
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jbzzhamdan: Try control-c11:55
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hamdancompsrink : xp11:55
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CompShrinkk, then go start>run and type in command11:55
CompShrinkhit enter11:55
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CompShrinktype ipconfig /all11:55
CompShrinkhit enter11:55
CompShrinkit will list your IP11:56
CompShrinkthen try pinging that11:56
CompShrinkgtg to dinner, good lick11:56
CompShrink*luck11:56
hamdanok11:56
CompShrinkand will someone tell me if the forum is down, or if it's just me?11:56
hamdanits down11:56
Seveas!forumdown11:56
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Seveas11:56
Seveas!kill11:56
hamdanwent there before here..11:56
uboturumour has it, kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.11:56
Seveas!listvals forum11:56
hamdanhow do i get the ip add of that particular comp?11:57
Seveas!forumsdown11:57
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)11:57
Seveas!forget shawkins11:57
ubotui forgot shawkins, Seveas11:57
hamdando i just type ipconfig ?11:57
jbzzhamdan:   On the XP machine you can start up a command window and type   ipconfig   I believe and it should scroll something up.11:57
hamdanhang on jbzz let me try that11:58
Seveassince when do we support windows in here?11:58
jbzzhamdan:   Yes.   On the Ubuntu machine type    ifconfig      a little different.11:58
hamdansorry guys, they are just helping the idiot here ..11:59
hamdan<--idiot11:59
hamdanim learning11:59
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pmallapphi all11:59
Seveashi pmallapp11:59
pmallappubuntu forums connection refused >?11:59
Seveas!forumsdown11:59
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)11:59
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pmallappThanks Sevas12:00
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Stevis2002Hi all12:00
Seveashi12:00
Stevis2002Can anybody tell me if they know of an Inventory/Stock Control application for Linux please? I use ubuntu12:00
ReverendGoatselooool no12:00
Stevis2002short & sweet :)12:01
Stevis2002Thanks12:01
SeveasReverendGoatse, ?12:01
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ReverendGoatseyes'm?12:01
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Stevis2002anyone else know of any?12:02
Seveasthere exist inventory and stock control programs for linux...12:02
Stevis2002All i need is to be able to adjust the stock level and put in the location of the product12:02
SeveasDon't know about free oness though12:02
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Stevis2002yeah, but i'm after one which doesn't cost $500+12:02
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Stevis2002Possibly a really stupid question, but, can programs for windows be run on linux?12:03
SeveasVia wine it may be possible12:04
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Seveashttp://www.tucows.com/preview/339559 <-- That was the stock control thing I knew12:04
Stevis2002how do i install wine from ubuntu?12:04
AMDXPStevis2002: some can12:04
Seveasapt-get install wine12:04
Stevis2002ah-ha...thank you very much12:04
Stevis2002i will try12:04
Stevis2002do you just install the program as if it was windows then...i.e....double click it?12:05
SeveasStevis2002, google also brought up this: http://www.midwestlinux.com/products/appgen/iv.html12:05
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ompaulStevis2002, in some cases they wil work with wine, in other cases a commerical program called Cegeda may help, you need to put "sudo" in front of Seveas's command there :) as long as you have the universe repos installed12:05
SeveasStevis2002, once you installed wine you can run windows installers12:05
Nameeater!mp312:05
ubotuI guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats12:05
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ompaul!tell Stevis2002 about universe12:05
hamdanjbzz : ok got the ip add12:05
Stevis2002ah right...thanks12:05
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DerLandimoin moin!12:05
Stevis2002btw...the stock control program you pointed me to was for windows12:06
ompaulquestion, how do I get abiword to see a dictionary?12:06
hamdanjbzz : i'm getting a response12:06
DerLandi#j ubuntu_de12:06
jbzzhamdan:   Super.12:06
ompaulDerLandi, morgen :)12:06
rraajjIs ubuntuforums still down?12:06
Stevis2002Right then...Thanks all, i shall try that12:06
jbzzhamdan:   That proves some type of connection is being made.12:06
DerLandihab mal ne "plde" frage, kann mir jemand nen command sagen, mit dem ich an de konsole die belegung meiner pladden auslesen kann?12:06
ompaul /join #ubuntu-de12:07
Stevis2002Also, i have installed my epson alll in one....i think, but how do i install the scanner part of it?12:07
hamdanjbzz : great!!12:07
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DerLandi@opmaul ahh! so wars, stimmt! lang net mehr hier gewesen, sry und thx! :D12:07
jbzzhamdan:   On the Ubuntu machine you should try to add a printer.12:07
ompaulDerLandi,  kp12:07
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ompaulStevis2002, the main program is called sane12:08
Stevis2002do i just apt-get sane then?12:08
jbzzhamdan:     It should point to the share name of the XP system.  The printer share name you gave the sharepoint.12:08
jbzzhamdan:   System    -    Administration   -   Printing12:08
Stevis2002ok, thanks all12:08
Stevis2002bye for now :)12:09
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jbzzhamdan:     New printer.12:09
frogzoohot damn ff1.5 is fast - well worth the upgrade12:09
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jbzzhamdan:   Network Printer           and     select   Windows Printer (SMB) where it shows CUPS printer.12:10
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hamdanat the driver it shows [postcript (recommended) (suggested) button and a install driver button12:12
jbzzhamdan:   Take the recommended selection for now.12:13
epshere is an odd request...I  have a huge file (just under half a million lines) and I need to find out how many spaces there are :|  ...can any one suggest some thing12:13
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hamdanjbzz : ok12:13
Nameeaterhow do you share a printer between two linux pcs?12:13
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hamdanjbzz do click 'apply' or click on the install driver button?12:13
jbzzhamdan:  Click apply.12:14
hamdanok laserjet-4-plus icon ready in my printers setting12:14
ompaulStevis2002, sudo apt-get install sane<< again you need universe12:14
hamdanprinting a test page12:14
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senectusGuys I have a non CSS (non retail) DVD that the boss has asked me to convert into a mpeg so he can incorporate it in a powerpoint pres.. is there any way to do this in Linux??12:15
jbzzhamdan:   OK.  Give it a try.   If it fails we can try modifying a file.12:15
hamdanLetter test page has been sent to LaserJet-4-Plus.12:15
hamdanjbzz : no print12:15
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frogzooeps, something like sed -e 's/[^ ] /g' | wc    should do it12:15
jbzzhamdan:   Right.  Typical.  Thee is a file we can look at.12:15
seliniumompaul Stevis2002 : you get xsane installed under Applications/Graphics...12:15
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Ngsenectus: the dvdrip package is ok12:15
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jbzzhamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf12:16
seliniumompaul, He has gone...12:16
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ompaulselinium, IO noted :)12:16
ompaulselinium, oi even noted :)12:16
hamdanjbzz : and where do i type that?12:16
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ompaulwoite back to trying to get this job done12:16
senectusNg thanks12:17
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hamdanjbzz : where do i type /etc/cups/printers.conf  ?12:17
jbzzhamdan:     Ouch!   In the terminal you can    cd    to that directory.      so type in that terminal window    cd  /etc/cups12:17
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jbzzhamdan:   Then we want to look at the contents of the file of interest.    So type   cat printers.conf12:18
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epsfrogzoo thanks :)12:19
hamdanhamdan@etsb03:~$ cd ?12:19
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jbzzhamdan:      cd    /etc/cups12:19
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hamdanamdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$12:20
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jbzzhamdan:     Super.    now type     cat   printers.conf12:20
hamdancat: printers.conf: Permission denied12:21
jbzzhamdan:   try      sudo cat printers.conf12:21
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hamdanpassword?12:22
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jbzzhamdan:   Try your own password12:22
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hamdanok12:22
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tonixhi guys, i don't hake the lp command on my ubuntu dekstop. What is the package i need to install to have the lp command? thanks12:22
tonix..sorry , i don't have..12:23
jbzzhamdan:   Look for a line that starts with    DeviceURI smb ...12:23
hamdandone12:23
nubuntuanyone who can help me getting privoxy to work? seems it cant find the config file12:23
hamdanits there12:23
drummer87any news on what's happening with the forums?? they've been down a couple days now12:23
hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:xxxxx@ETSB04/Printer12:24
Ngdrummer87: they're being moved apparently, should be back later12:24
jbzzhamdan:     OK.   Let me look at what you have shown.12:24
drummer87ic12:24
hamdanState Idle12:24
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hamdanAccepting Yes12:24
hamdanJobSheets none none12:24
nubuntunevermind :)12:25
hamdanQuotaPeriod 012:25
hamdanPageLimit 012:25
hamdanKLimit 012:25
Ngtonix: cupsys-bsd includes old style printer tools to work with cups, but not lp12:25
CompShrinktonix, iproute2 package12:25
CompShrinkoh, lp12:25
CompShrinkoops12:25
Nghehe12:25
jbzzhamdan:   What we are striving for is the following:   smb://username:password@computername/computername/sharename12:25
ilba7rtonix that is really strange do you have cups installed12:26
hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer12:26
hamdanis that the string?12:26
jbzzhamdan:   We want that line to follow that line of thinking.  The username is a valid user name of a user on the machine that is sharing the printer.12:27
jbzzhamdan:   Yes.12:27
m33shi12:27
m33shas anybody any experience with mixxx?12:27
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hamdan:)12:28
jbzzhamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name12:28
ompaulSeveas, where is the pool of packages for dapper?12:29
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Seveasompaul, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool12:29
ompaulthanks12:29
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tonixilba7r: yes, i have cupsys and lpr12:29
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tonixbut not the lp command12:29
trfchallo12:30
hamdanjbzz : ok..12:30
Seveashi12:30
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hamdan# Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.2312:30
jbzzhamdan:   Example:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/HP-412:30
AMDXPok12:30
paulr_can anyone connect to the Ubuntu forums? They seem to have been down for a few days here12:31
Ngtonix: lp appears to be in cupsys-client12:31
hamdanthats the only one i have shown here...DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer12:31
tonixNg: ok, i try to install cupsys-client, thanks12:31
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bimberi!forumsdown12:32
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)12:32
paulr_OK thx12:32
jbzzhamdan:   Understood.  But you have to modify that line to make it follow the outline I have.12:32
tonixok Ng: thanks, it works, now i got the lp command!12:32
hamdanaaah..ok now i follow12:32
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jbzzAssume the sharing machine is called    unit5   adn the name of the printer share you gave it is   HP-412:33
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hamdanhamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name12:33
jbzzhamdan:  Assume the sharing machine is called    unit5   and the name of the printer share you gave it is     HP-412:33
hamdannow i'll have to check its sharing name..12:34
jbzzhamdan:    Yes.  But notice the valid user account also contains the name of the machine that is sharing.12:34
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hamdanthat would be rite12:34
sexcopter8000mis there a programme to make a video dvd?12:34
hamdanviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer----> ure saying that this is not correct then? and i have to change it12:35
jbzzhamdan:  I believe what you have in that file needs to be modified.12:36
drummer87sexcopter8000m, qdvdauthor is one.. there are a couple of CLI progs and others. none of which i've really used tho. google is your friend12:36
jbzzhamdan:    Just that one line.12:36
sexcopter8000mdrummer87, thanks112:37
sexcopter8000mer, thanks!12:37
jbzzhamdan:  What was the name of the 'share' you used on the machine that is sharing the printer?12:37
drummer87qdvdauthor is just a qt frontend to dvdauthor and some other progs12:37
drummer87i looked into it not long ago, but cant remember the names of other progs12:38
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hamdanprinter612:38
drummer87of course there's also kino and cinerella (spelling?) for video editing.. but not dvd authoring as well12:38
janolihi how do you define mtu in /etc/network/interfaces, if using dhcp?12:39
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jbzzhamdan:  OK.   Then the line will be changed to something like:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/printer612:39
hamdanok12:40
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gnomefreakon this supergrub thing do i write the zip to floppy or do i uncompress it and write one of the files to floppy?12:41
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hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer612:41
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hamdanhells bells!!12:42
hamdandone it..12:42
hamdan:)12:42
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gnomefreakbrb gonna find out how well this works12:43
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jbzzhamdan:  I think it will be something like    smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6         notice the repeat of the machine name.12:44
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jbzzhamdan:  The machine name is the name of the machine that is sharing the printer.12:45
hamdanhmm12:45
hamdanthe machine name sharing the printer is etsb0312:45
hamdanthe machine printer attache is etsb0412:45
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jbzzhamdan:  There should be a valid use account on etsb03  that you should use.  Because we are accessing the other machine to print.12:46
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LunkentussHow much space does an installation of ubuntu take?12:47
ejofeewhat is ajax?12:47
jbzzhamdan:    So the line should look something like:   smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer612:47
Ngejofee: google ;)12:47
Ngilba7r: where are these rumours coming from? :o12:47
jbzzLukentuss:  About 3.5 gigs is nice.12:48
ardchoilledoes anyone know how to take a screenshot of the gdm login screen12:48
Lunkentussjbzz anyway to get it lower by removing "crap"12:48
ilba7rNg, http://www.fxcentre.co.uk/uk/news.asp?ukts+20060119_26148_26718412:48
drummer87Lunkentuss, standard install about 2.5gb (i just did a clean install)12:48
Ngardchoille: you could log into the console and use a tool like "import" with the right DISPLAY variable magic I think12:48
rixthI cannot play MP3s in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/51890112:48
drummer87Lunkentuss, but then u'll be adding stuff12:48
jbzzLukentuss:  Have not tried to reduce it.12:48
drummer87remember12:48
rixth!ops12:49
ubotuops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.12:49
LunkentussHow about server install12:49
Ngilba7r: sounds like they just customised it for inhouse use to me, but interesting12:49
hamdanjbzz : how do i change it to smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer6?12:49
rixth!ops please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)12:49
ubotuI'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rixth12:49
ardchoilleNg: that sounds like it would work. What would the "right DISPLAY magic" be?12:49
Ngalbeit off-topic ;)12:49
drummer87Lunkentuss, installing a lighter de will reduce the install size.. xfce for eg12:49
rixth!ops: please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)12:49
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ilba7rNg, i am on offtopic channel now :)12:49
jbzzhamdan:  You mean what application do you use?12:49
rixthPah.12:49
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orion_fr_24i m new with irc would you have a webpage with the most important command ???12:50
hamdanyup12:50
Ngardchoille: DISPLAY=:0.0  before the import command. I think it'd be something like: "DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root", but it's a long time since i used import, check its man page12:50
rixthorion_fr_24, /join #channel, /msg nickname your message, /part #channel and /quit are the main ones12:50
ardchoilleNg: thank you very much :)12:50
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jbzzhamdan:  That is the tough part.  I use something called    vi    but that is too much for a beginner.   You also have to have higher privileges.12:50
orion_fr_24rixth: i know those ones except /part12:50
Terminusorion_fr_24: http://www.irchelp.org/ for help on IRC.12:50
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gnomefreakok on this supergrub im guessing all i need is the bat file right?12:51
orion_fr_24Terminus: thx dude12:51
Terminusorion_fr_24: np. :)12:51
Ngardchoille: (import is in the imagemagick package)12:51
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hamdanshucks12:51
robotgeekorion_fr_24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XChatHowto12:51
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netstarWhere do I get autoconf from?12:51
Snifffurthello12:51
robotgeekardchoille: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots might be helpful12:51
ardchoillerobotgeek: thanks :)12:52
jbzzhamdan:  I am thinking ... maybe you should set the permissions of that file really low and then just use a word processor or text editor.12:52
robotgeeknetstar: sudo apt-get install autoconf12:52
orion_fr_24hello everyone12:52
netstarrobotgeek, do I need to enable universe?12:52
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robotgeeknetstar: no12:53
jbzzhamdan:  In the terminal window type    ls -l  printers.conf     (thgose first few vertical bars are lowercase letter   el      as in LIMA12:53
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netstarWhere can I get the ubuntu defsilt sources.list?12:54
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jbzzhamdan:    That will show you the permissions of that file.   My file says   -rw-------12:54
gnomefreakgrrrrrrrrrr who made that site :(12:54
SnifffurtI have some trubble to convert ape and wv files to wav with shntool. It just says: "is not handled by any of the builtin format modules". But how can I build in these modules? or get a shntool version wich this is built in. I have wavpack installed on my system.12:55
ejofeewhat is ajax?12:55
Ngejofee: asynchronous javascript and xml - see google as I suggested ;)12:55
hamdan-rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf12:56
Snifffurtdoes anyone have shntool working with this?12:56
drummer87ejofee, also an abraisove cleaning product12:56
Snifffurtor know how I could get this running12:56
jbzzhamdan:    OK.  Your file agrees with mine.   Do you have a text editor in Applications  -  Accessories?12:56
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hamdanjbzz : yes sir12:57
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jbzzhamdan:  OK.   Do the following in the terminal window:     chmod 777 printers.conf        that will change the permissions.12:57
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hamdanchmod: changing permissions of `printers.conf': Operation not permitted12:58
jbzzhamdan:  Actually:      sudo  chmod  777  printers.conf12:58
cyphaseis there wa way to refresh nautilus fom inside a program? or from a terminal?12:58
cyphasea way*12:58
cyphasefrom*12:58
hamdanok12:59
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jbzzhamdan:  now try :    ls  -l  printers.conf     it should show something like  -rwxrwxrwx12:59
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hamdan-rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf12:59
mwewhy would you make a config file executeable and writealbe for everyone? sounds like a bad idea01:00
jbzzhamdan:    Perfect.   Now start up your text editor and  open that file.01:00
jbzzhamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf01:00
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hamdanjbzzhamdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$ /etc/cups/printers.conf01:01
hamdan/etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'01:01
mwemaking a config file in /etc/ chmod 777 is not good pracitise01:01
Toadstoolcyphase: what do you mean by refreshing nautilus from inside a program ?01:01
mwemax should be 64401:01
hamdan/etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: `<DefaultPrinter LaserJet-4-Plus>'01:02
CompShrinknetstar, i sent you a private message about sources.list01:02
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C2ODeerror on configure: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. any ideas?01:02
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NgC2ODe: have you installed the build-essential package?01:03
cyphaseToadstool, like when you press F5, or Ctrl+R01:03
jbzzhamdan:  What you need to do is start up a text editor and open that file.   Then edit the file.01:03
mwehamdan: leaving that config file with those permissions is not a good idea. it should be 60001:03
cyphasei need the desktop to be refreshed specifically01:03
Toadstoolcyphase: this is done by gam_server01:03
mwehamdan: why di you change it to 777?01:03
C2ODeNg: sure01:03
senectusare the ubuntuforums down again?!?!01:03
cyphaseToadstool, what do you mean?01:03
hamdanmwe : sorry what?01:03
Ngsenectus: for a few more hours, yes01:04
cyphasei know that's how it's managed..01:04
senectusNg, ok thanks..01:04
cyphasebut i need to be able to refresh manually01:04
Toadstoolah ok :)01:04
senectusDoes anyone know anything about hamachi VPN ??01:04
mwemwest: changign permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea01:04
hamdanjbzz : ok opened file01:05
mwehamdan: changing permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea01:05
jbzzhamdan:  Now make the changes to the text.01:05
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hamdanjbzz : what is mwe talkin about?01:05
jbzzhamdan:  He is not aware of what we are trying to accomplish.01:06
mwehamdan: didn't you do sudo chmod 777 printer.conf?01:06
seliniumIs there an apt-get command to re-install?01:06
netstarthanks comes01:06
shirishhi all,  is www.ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntuforums down?01:06
netstarCompShrink, even01:06
hamdanmwe : pls dont confuse me01:06
mweshirish: yeah all the time01:06
NgSeveas: any chance of topic'ing the forum info? ;)01:06
Ngshirish: yes, until later today01:06
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mwehamdan: I'm just saying changing permissions like that is a bad idea01:07
Ngselinium: --reinstall (see the man page for apt-get)01:07
CompShrinknetstar, no problem01:07
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hamdanmwe : and why is that?01:07
seliniumNg cheers :)01:07
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CompShrinkhamdan, it makes you vulnerable01:08
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mwehamdan: it's insecure and some programs wont even run if the config file has wrong permissions01:08
shirishNg: why are the forums down, some zombie attacks or something?01:08
Ngshirish: they're just being moved afaik01:08
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mwehamdan: also setting the exe bit is plain wrong01:08
CompShrinkshirish, they're changing servers01:08
Snifffurtis ubuntuforums.org down?01:09
shirisho.k. o.k. they should've then atleast sent a mail to all the account holders or put it up on the wiki or somewhere01:09
khermansAnyone know the ImageMagick convert command well?01:09
hamdanmakes me vulnerable....well? jbzz is just tryin to help me out here..01:09
jbzzhamdan:  Stay focused on what we are doing.01:09
mwehamdan: the permissions should be -rw-------. there's no need to change that01:09
mwehamdan: no but normal users should not have rights to change system files. for a reason01:10
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mwehamdan: do what you want it's your system. but IMO it's not good advice to change permissions of that file like that01:10
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hamdanJBZZ : sorry focused now..changed to DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer601:10
bigjbanyone run a irc proxy on ubuntu?01:11
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jbzzhamdan:  Super.  That looks like it will work.01:11
hamdanjbzz : now save?01:11
mwejbzz: why did you tell him to change permissions of that file?01:11
jbzzhamdan:    Yes.  Save.01:11
mwejbzz: it should be 600 like it was01:11
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brian_has anyone had any luck instally ymessenger01:12
hamdanCould not save the file "/etc/cups/printers.conf"01:12
brian_installing*01:12
hamdanarggh01:12
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ilba7rbrian had not problems installing it here01:12
mwebrian_: the linux version sucks. gaim is superior01:12
brian_i do sudo apt-get install ymessenger and it says no candidate01:12
brian_mwe, no file transfer01:12
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AMDXPbrian_: you have to download it from the site and install it01:13
mwebrian_: there is an outdated version available at yahoo.com01:13
hamdanCould not create a backup file.01:13
ilba7rbrian_, do it from yahoo site. download bin packages. also there are alternatives01:13
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hamdanjbzz : cant save01:13
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brian_ilba7r, i need to be bale to do file transfer from yahoo01:13
jbzzhamdan:  Odd.  You should have permission to change that file.01:13
ilba7ri installed the bin files from yahoo01:13
hamdanjbzz : not giving me permission01:14
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jbzzhamdan:  With the -rwxrwxrwx you should be able to modify that file.01:15
mwejbzz: why did you tell him to change the permissions of the file?01:15
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mwejbzz: it's a bad idea01:15
mwejbzz: he should just edit it with sudo $EDITOR01:15
hamdan-rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf01:16
shirishI agree with mwe, gaim is superior01:16
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jbzzhamdan:    Maybe mwe would like to take over from here.01:16
ejofeeNg: thank you01:16
hamdanjbzz : im no expert..im counting on you guys01:17
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mwejbzz: the intention is good, but changing permissions of system files is bad practise01:17
jbzzhamdan:  mwe:  Please go ahead and finish up.01:17
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mwejbzz: I don't know what he wants to do. I just spotted the chmod 777 which is a bad idea01:18
hamdanjbzz : lets just carry on...01:18
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ZhiChiangHi I need help!01:19
jbzzhamdan:  OK.  What editor are you using?01:19
hamdanjbzz: i cant save the changes..it wont grant me access01:19
mwejbzz: please tell him to change perms back to 60001:19
hamdanthe standard editor01:19
hamdanthat comes with the installation disk01:19
ZhiChiangmy ubuntu does start... does not mount as well...  i will past the errors01:19
ZhiChiangI encounter error when booting the OS.. error message is01:19
jbzzhamdan:  mwe:  Please take over if you need to.01:19
ZhiChiangFATAL: Module minix not found01:19
ZhiChiangMount: mouting /dev/hda2 on /root failed: no such deivce01:19
ZhiChiangMount: mouting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory01:19
ZhiChiangmount: muting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory01:19
ZhiChiangTarget filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init01:19
ZhiChiangBusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20046623-1ubuntu) Built-in shell (ash)01:19
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ZhiChiangEnter "help" for a list of built-in commands/.01:19
ZhiChiang/bin/sh: Can't access TTY: job control turned off.01:19
ZhiChiang#01:19
ZhiChiangcan anybody help me how to fix this problem?01:20
ilba7r!tell ZhiChiang about pastebin01:20
mweZhiChiang: don't paste in the channel01:20
ZhiChiangim sorry!01:20
hamdanjbzz : carry on please we've come this far, we'll deal with mwe later01:20
jbzzhamdan:    OK.   What editor are you using?01:20
hamdanthe standard editor01:20
hamdanthat comes with the installation disk01:20
mwedestroy you system if you like. I'll shut up about it01:21
ZhiChiangsorry doesnt know that.....01:21
jbzzhamdan:    What is the name of the editor?01:21
hamdanmwe: we'll change it back once we are done..ok?you can help me change perms back once we are done01:21
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SeveasZhiChiang, pasting is THE way to loose all chances of getting help. Simple netiquette should tell you that flooding is stupid.01:21
frogzooZhiChiang, suggest turn off machine completely for 20 secs & reboot01:21
hamdangedit?01:22
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hamdanjbzz:gedit?01:22
jbzzhamdan:    OK.   I have used that.   Well try saving the file as a different name.01:22
frogzooZhiChiang, what h/w u running on?01:22
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hamdanjbzz : gimme a name01:23
jbzzhamdan:    Like   print.txt01:23
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looksaushave there been profound changes to xorg the last days? it refuses to start on my ibook01:23
hamdanfile path?01:23
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looksausit's complaining about the touchpad, amongst other things...01:23
jbzzhamdan:    /etc/cups/print.txt01:24
mwelooksaus: no changes in breezy here01:24
looksausmwe: in dapper, I mean, sorry01:24
Seveaslooksaus, check all paths in xorg.conf and gdm.conf01:24
hamdanjbzz : shucks its now saved /etc/cups/print.config !!01:24
looksausI see a /dev/.static/dev/input/mice01:25
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looksausSeveas, don't know if it was like this before01:25
ZhiChiangHi Thanks ...01:25
jeiksHi. When I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Is this a common thing?01:25
Nglooksaus: dapper is an unstable development branch... it's going to break randomly01:25
jbzzhamdan:    You mean it saved the file properly?01:25
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hamdanjbzz :yup no problem01:25
looksausNg, perfectly aware of that, thx anyway01:25
Seveaslooksaus, a few symlinks that were kept for compatibility were removed, probably these are still used in gdm.conf or xorg.conf (happened to a lot of people)01:25
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: I did that already and I still encounter error...01:25
ZhiChiangfragzoo: I am running the ubuntu on Dell inspiron 700m laptop computer01:26
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looksausSeveas, should I reference this /dev/.static/dev/input/mice directly?01:26
jbzzhamdan:    That makes more sense.01:26
noirequusrixth: did you get your problem taken care of?01:26
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hamdanjbzz : now its called /etc/cups/print.conf01:26
ZhiChiangI just use the pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751501:26
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hamdani'll be damned01:26
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jbzzhamdan:    Oh.  A slightly different name.01:26
Seveaslooksaus, no, /dev/.static should ideally not be used at all01:26
hamdanjbzz : yes slightly01:26
jbzzhamdan:  Well, go back to the terminal session again.01:27
hamdanjbzz : ok01:27
looksaushm, any idea where I should point for my mouse to work then?01:27
looksausor is it up to me to read xorg.conf docs?01:27
jbzzhamdan:    If you are still in the same directory    /etc/ups   then type    cat  print.conf    and look at the new file you made.01:28
dutchjust found an entry in /tmp that starts "ssh-"..what does it mean ?01:28
Seveaslooksaus, sorry, I don't use dapper yet, I just repeat what I heard from others  :)01:28
looksausnp, thx Seveas01:28
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hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer601:28
jbzzhamdan:    I meant   /etc/cups   directory.   And make sure the new file looks correct.01:28
ZhiChiangany suggestion or fix for this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751501:29
mwedutch: probaly nothing to worry about. /tmp are fo temporary files. maybe ssh put some temp file there01:29
hamdanjbzz : looks good?01:29
dutchmwe: but, I don't use ssh :(01:29
mwedutch: well I have it too01:29
jbzzhamdan:    It should look like the original but with only the changes you made to the one line.01:29
looksauswoohoo, we are in business again01:29
hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer601:29
dutchmwe: ok, thanks...was wondering.01:30
AMDXPwow i have one hella lag01:30
looksaus... somewhat01:30
frogzooZhiChiang, try this - turn on machine & when grub menu appears - hit 'e' - then wait 20 secs, then hit 'CR' & then 'b' to boot01:30
hamdanjbzz : changes made -->DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer601:30
mwedutch: maybe sshd is running? or some program you used did run ssh. I wouldn't worry01:30
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jeiksWhen I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Does anybody know how to fix this?01:30
frogzooZhiChiang, when was your last kernel update btw?01:31
jbzzhamdan:    Yes that looks right.   Now we can rename the original file to protect it in case we need to look at it later.01:31
ilba7rZhiChiang, did you play with mounting options. or fstab file01:31
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hamdanjbzz : show me the way01:31
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: kernel was updated last week..01:31
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ZhiChiangfrogzoo: okay I will try your suggestion01:32
jbzzhamdan:     In the terminal window type:    mv   printers.conf   printers.conf_original              just like that01:32
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looksausSeveas, heard of problems like the following:01:32
paraxhi01:32
hamdanmv: cannot move `printers.conf' to `printers.conf_original': Operation not permitted01:32
looksausgdm starts01:32
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looksausI start logging in and everything goes bonkers01:33
paraxanybody has already test ubuntu on a new apple imac intel core duo?01:33
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looksaustrying to be more precise, sorry01:33
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Seveaslooksaus, that would suggest an error in your user data, try creating a new user and logging in with that account01:33
jbzzhamdan:    Type this :    ls  -l  printers.conf01:33
looksausI still have a moving mouse pointer01:33
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jbzzhamdan:    That will show the permissions again.01:33
hamdanjbzz: yup01:34
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frogzooyar, when the gnome files are messed up, is there any way to recover the configs? other than recreating the user?01:34
jbzzhamdan:    Are they still    -rwxrwxrwx    ?01:34
hamdan-rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf01:34
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mwejbzz: normal users can't create or move files in /etc01:34
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mwejbzz: you need sudo for that01:34
jeiksparax: I haven't heard of anyone who has been able to install linux on an imac intel core duo yet01:34
AMDXPanyone use freenx?01:35
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jbzzhamdan:  OK.   Lets try:     sudo  mv  printers.conf   printers.conf_original                  like that01:35
hamdandone01:36
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ashracki will probably reinstall ubuntu on one of my machine. I would like to know which files should I backup so I could just restore them when my fresh ubuntu install is complete?01:36
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looksausSeveas, damn, even a new user seems to have probs01:37
luke_hi everybody!!!01:37
mweashrack: I'd back up my home dir and /etc01:37
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frogzooashrack, /var/spool/mail & /home for starters01:37
luke_i was wondering ... how do i install GPART on my ubuntu01:37
AMDXPluke_: hi there01:37
gaz-say i install windows on my machine, which overwrites grub, is it easy to remake grub the default bootloader e.g. replace windows's mbr01:37
jbzzhamdan:    Now do this:      sudo  mv  printer.conf  printers.conf          but get that spelling right01:37
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luke_can anybody help me out01:38
frogzooluke_, search for gpart in synaptic & apply :D01:38
tristanask luke_01:38
jbzzhamdan:    Or was it      sudo   mv   print.conf  printers.conf01:38
AMDXPgaz-: no usually you have to install windows and then ubuntu01:38
luke_i already did it01:38
hamdanu mean print.conf ?01:38
ashracktanx, thought so too01:38
jbzzhamdan:  Yes.01:38
Seveaslooksaus, well, in a way that is a good thing since now you can blame it on the deveopers ;)01:38
hamdannew file is print.conf01:38
mweprint.config was the name you gave it01:38
frogzooluke_, u saying u couldn't find gparted ?01:38
luke_nope01:38
luke_i found it and then checked it01:39
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tristanluke_ : sudo apt-get install gparted01:39
luke_it seems that the packages were downloaded but01:39
jbzzhamdan:    Yes we need to 'move' that     print.conf file to be  printers.conf01:39
frogzooluke_, after u check it u have to click 'apply'01:39
hamdandone01:39
gaz-AMDXP, bit surely its possible to overwrite the mbr with grub again?01:39
luke_i did!01:39
gaz-but*01:39
jbzzhamdan:    Now we need to change the owner as follows    sudo chown cups printers.conf01:40
frogzooluke_, does synaptic now show the pkg as installed?01:40
looksausSeveas, oof, I managed to get at least an xterm01:40
luke_how can i know if it is in my system or not01:40
AMDXPgaz-: i think you will loose your window install if you do I am not sure though01:40
luke_yep!01:40
mweAMDXP: you wont01:40
AMDXPl,ok i stand corrected01:40
gaz-AMDXP naa you shouldnt01:40
frogzooluke_, either just enter gpart & press tab, or dpkg -l |grep gpart01:40
hamdanchown: `cups': invalid user01:41
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frogzooluke_, but if synaptic shows the pkg as installed, then....01:41
mwehamdan: cupsys01:41
jbzzhamdan:    OK.      sudo  chown  cupsys  printers.conf01:41
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mwegroups should be lpadmin01:42
luke_i went to...SYSTEM>ADMIN>ADD APPLICATION01:42
hamdandone01:42
luke_then i checked gpart01:42
jbzzhamdan:     Now we change the group:      sudo  chgrp  lpadmin  printers.conf01:42
hamdandone01:43
mweyou should also chmod 600 printers.conf. sorry for interfering01:43
jbzzhamdan:    Now change the permissions back:     sudo  chmod  600  printers.conf01:43
hamdanchanged owner from who to who? change group from what to what?01:44
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hamdandone01:44
jbzzhamdan:    Now look at it again:    ls  -l  printers.conf01:45
jbzzhamdan:    It should look like   -rw-------     cupsys  lpadmin01:45
hamdan-rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 294 2006-01-23 20:26 printers.conf01:45
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jbzzhamdan:  Looks right.01:45
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hamdanjbzz: looks good01:45
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jbzzhamdan:    Now if we have that right you have a good chance that you can print to the shared printer.01:46
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hzgask for help about mysql 4.1.12 on ubuntu linux 5.1001:46
hamdancan we check that?01:46
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jbzzhamdan:    If it is wrong then it needs to be modified more or something else is wrong with the share.01:47
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hzgi change encoding in my.cnf of mysql 4.1.12,but it doesn't work01:47
hamdanjbzz : can we check it?01:47
jbzzhamdan:    It has to be very close to perfect the way it is.  Unless there is a spelling error.  Yes give it a try.01:48
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hamdanjbzz : im going to re-add a printer in my printer folder01:48
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raphaHi all!01:49
jbzzhamdan:    Wait.01:49
ZhiChianghi frogzoo... when I hit e this is the menu i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/751601:49
raphaCan somebody help me solve a problem with HTML tidy?01:49
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: i cant find the CR01:49
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jbzzhamdan:    If you make any change to that printer you created you might change the modifications we made.01:49
hzgi look for mysql encoding on google,someone say mysql 4.1.12 should update to mysql 4.1.16.really?01:50
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hamdanok..01:50
folkiwhat command can I use to show list of all processes?01:50
Ngps auwx01:50
luke_now....if gpart is installed on my system... where can i find it01:51
jbzzhamdan:    Is that printer the 'default' printer when you look at your printers?01:51
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hamdanjbzz : yes it is01:51
jbzzhamdan:  Excellent.01:51
tristanluke_ try to type gparted in terminal01:51
jbzzhamdan:    You might try gedit and print to that printer.01:51
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luke_command not found...01:52
folkican anybody help me please?i need to show list of all processes.01:52
cyphaseouch01:53
luke_that`s what i get01:53
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Rolanfolki: ps aux01:53
kestasis there any flowchart software for linux?01:53
folkithnx01:53
hzgto folki:ps -ef01:53
pixelfairyugh... slow download from the us archive...01:53
pixelfairykestas: you can use draw in openoffice or dia01:53
cyphasekesteas, try Dia01:53
jbzzfolki:  use the command:      ps -aux01:53
AMDXPwow01:54
hamdancat  print.conf01:54
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hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer601:54
n00bhi guys01:54
folkithank u all...and I have one problem yet.I installed some software before and i need to uninstall it now.how can i do that?01:54
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n00bi know that this may be question that is unrelated to ubuntu01:54
kestaspixelfairy, thanks Draw will do fine :)01:55
n00bbut how would i be able to create a slackware 10.2 DVD rather than having all those CDs?01:55
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pixelfairynoob the directions come with slackware01:55
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BradMHas anyone ever used Slackware before?01:55
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gaz-n00b, download slack dvd image?01:55
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pixelfairyBradM: been using slackware since like 9401:56
hzgfolki: use synaptic package managment01:56
BradMDo you use Ubuntu too?01:56
pixelfairyyes01:56
pixelfairyisnt there a slackware channel?01:56
BradMHow much different are the two?01:56
n00bgaz- yes but i would like to download it from my ISP (since downloads count)01:56
n00bpixelfairy, where can i find this information?01:56
pixelfairyBradM: the quick answer, is that slackware just dumps a working system on your box and leaves you alone, it has a package system, which makes updates easy and makeing your own packages easy, if your comfy on the command line01:57
hamdanjbzz: ill reboot and brb01:57
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jbzzhamdan:  Roger.01:57
sorush20what is a good chess game/01:57
luke_darnet01:58
pixelfairyn00b: i think its on the first cd, but someones borrowing mine01:58
luke_alright!!!01:58
BradMpixelfairy, would you reccomend a switch from Ubuntu to Slackware?01:58
luke_can anyone help me to install Gpart on my system...01:58
pixelfairyBradM: for myself, i like slackware. you can try it in qemu or vmware01:58
folkiok, thanks01:58
pixelfairyist pretty simple if you know unix01:58
BradMI might give it a tr.01:59
BradMtry*01:59
BradMi'm going to have to install gnome though01:59
sorush20any good chess games?01:59
pixelfairyvirtual manchines (qemu, vmware, virtualpc etc) are a good thing01:59
luke_it says.... E:Couldn`t find ....01:59
Epicvmware is amazing01:59
sorush20knights is the one I've found, although I don't know how to get the engines for it?01:59
EpicThat's what I'm running ubuntu on right now and it's smooth as silk on a old athlon system01:59
luke_after i`ve run [sudo apt-get install gparted01:59
pixelfairyEpic: vmware is great till you want to script it02:00
pixelfairybut yea, im a fan of vmware too02:00
EpicI've never wrote a script02:00
Epicdoesn't concern me too much :)02:00
pixelfairyi like to make networks of virtual machines that change after i started it (unlike most network scripts)02:01
pixelfairyuml and qemu are good for that02:01
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pixelfairyright now im just setting up a laptop for an artist02:01
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MrRioheyhey02:02
pixelfairyand ubuntu is good for that02:02
pixelfairyat least this one02:02
AMDXPwell i want to make a network using thin clients02:02
EpicIt just surprises me how well it runs now. This is the first time I have used it in a few versions02:02
MrRioive got gnome and now kde on this system, ive set my gnome theme in a kde control panel, and now i cant change it using gnome-theme-manager02:02
MrRioany idea why?02:02
EpicHost OS is XP and I have ReactOS running too02:02
EpicAll of them are smooth02:02
pixelfairyreactos runs now?02:02
pixelfairyhow is it?02:02
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EpicActually ReactOS won't boot on this system unless it's within VMware02:03
pixelfairyi love how well vmware automagically bridges to ethernet02:03
frogzooZhiChiang, just hit enter & then 'b' to boot02:03
hamdanjbzz02:03
EpicI dunno why02:03
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jbzzhamdan:    Yes.02:04
pixelfairyif only there was a way to run the installed xp in a virtual machine once in awhile02:04
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: i does the same thing :(02:04
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hamdanprinter wont stop churnin our paper02:04
pixelfairyso the user wont have to reboot just to do something trivial in windows02:04
Epic??02:04
jbzzhamdan:    Shut off the printer02:04
pixelfairyXP is supposed to freak out if hardware changes (or something like that)02:04
hamdandid that02:04
allison_1984jbzz: hey man02:04
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hamdanwhen turned it back on..i continued churnin out paper02:05
frogzooZhiChiang, well I dunno if I had the same problem - but my machine was doing something similiar, & it 'just' went away - not sure why02:05
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Epicit can02:05
EpicDepends on what changes02:05
jbzzhamdan:    Maybe check your printer and place a hold on what it is printing.02:05
frogzooZhiChiang, do you use usb or pcmcia devices?02:05
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jbzzhamdan:    That probably means we are sending a print job to that printer but maybe the driver is not appropriate.02:06
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: i am using usb devices with mouse and my DVD writer.02:06
hamdanjbzz : maybe02:06
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gaz-anyone know which system service is used at startup to synchronise the system clock on the internet?02:06
hamdananyway to check via terminal to see if everything is ok?02:06
jbzzhamdan:    Did you make the choice of printer to match the printer exactly?02:06
frogzooZhiChiang, but no usb storage?02:06
hamdanjbzz : yes i did02:07
hamdanlaserjet-4-plus02:07
jbzzhamdan:    Well that is odd.     Laserjet 4 plus.02:07
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ZhiChiangfrogzoo: i remember, my dvd writer hang and I just remove the usb without enjecting or unmounting the disk... do you think that might be the problem? yes I have usb storage (external mobile hard disk)02:07
bigjbhttp02:08
jbzzhamdan:    We must be pointed to the correct share point and something is being sent.02:08
bigjbgrr02:08
ZhiChiangfrogzoo: but I didnt use my usb drive since last week.02:08
bigjbwrong keyboard02:08
jerrisdoes anybody know how to rest the video drivers?02:08
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hamdannow my printer wont stop churning out paper..02:08
hamdan:)02:08
frogzooZhiChiang, I'd disconnect the usb device & reinstall grub - google for 'ubuntu grub recovery'02:08
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ZhiChiangntfs, ext3, ext3, extended, swap, fat3202:08
sexcopter8000mhi, sorry this is a tad off-topic, but does anyone know about msn protocols? friend has found this http://www.block-checker.com/ and wants to know if it's a scam or if it really is possible to find who's blocked you02:09
jbzzhamdan:    There might be a large printkob in the printer cue.  See if you can stop that.02:09
ZhiChiangooppss sorry wrong window02:09
jbzzhamdan:    Cancel the job maybe.02:09
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frogzoojerris, x drivers are fat & sluggish & need the exercise :)02:09
hamdanjbzz ; no job pending02:09
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: why dont you just try it? maybe with ethereal running02:09
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sexcopter8000mpixelfairy, using wine?02:10
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jbzzhamdan:    Well what do you make of that.   There should be some way of flushing the job out of that laserjet memory.02:10
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: gaim might be easier02:10
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ZhiChiangfrogzoo: okay i will try102:10
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ZhiChiangfrogzoo: thanks a lor02:11
bigjbis there a nice lightweight httpd server from the default repositories with python cgi support02:11
pixelfairyoh its a desktop app02:11
jbzzhamdan:    Maybe you will have to turn it off and on a few times to dump whatever it has already received.02:11
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sexcopter8000mpixelfairy, if it is a loads of crap and is loaded with spyware for windoz users, am i as an ubuntu user safe from all that?02:11
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: or using qemu or vmware02:11
ZhiChiangbrb02:11
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: thats why you do it in a virtual machine02:11
hamdanok..let me try that..02:11
sexcopter8000mok, pixelfairy, but i've *never* used vmware or qemu, is it easy and intuitive?02:12
hamdanjbzz : meanwhile how can we confirm that what we did just now was right?02:12
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: if theres a way to tell, then the right traffic would probably show up on sniffer anyway02:12
rambo3no its memory needy and usless02:12
parhiteani have printer lexmark how to set up my my ubuntu02:12
frogzoosexcopter8000m, the installs are a pita - extraordinarily slow going02:12
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: both are pretty easy, vmware would be better for this02:12
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pixelfairyqemu is slow on disk access02:13
pixelfairywhich makes installing windows slow02:13
jbzzhamdan:    Well the only thing I question would be any settings that you might have made that (for whatever reason) just were not right.02:13
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jbzzhamdan:    I do not know how many options you had in terms of drivers, etc.  Generally the recommended driver is the best 'first' choice.02:13
hamdanjbzz :  lol..its still churning out empty paper..02:14
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: theres probably an easier safer way to check. and if msn finds out, they would probalby fix it anyway02:14
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rambo3open mozilla http://localhost:63102:14
sexcopter8000mpixelfairy, oh i see lol, it entails installing a virtual windows system... well i'm tight on hdd space at the moment, so i can't right now02:14
pixelfairythat kinda thing really should be server side02:14
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jbzzhamdan:    Shut it off for about 1 minute and then turn it back on and see what happens.02:14
sexcopter8000mjust asked in #gaim and someone's pointed out that since msn messenger version 6, everyone who's not on your list is blocked02:15
jbzzhamdan:    I am thinking it got a huge amount of what it thinks are 'form feeds'.02:15
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Tusnalhello anybody home?02:15
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: make a new msn in gaim and see what happens when you block yourself, then try to talk to the blocked name or something and see what the sniffer or gaims debugging output tells you. ethereal is good at decoding that stuff02:15
jbzzhamdan:     As if the data sent was being garbaged up.02:16
hamdanjbzz : ure guess is as good as mine02:16
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jbzzhamdan:    Well think about that.  If every character that was sent was interpreted as a form feed ... wow.02:16
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raphaHi all!02:16
TusnalHello, i just checked distrowatch and it seems like there is a "snapshot" version, anybody know where i can get it from?02:17
hamdanjbzz : freaky02:17
raphaAnybody else using an old Clamshell iBook here?02:17
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marccdscreen es lo ms :-D02:17
pixelfairysexcopter8000m: blockchecker looks pretty full of it02:17
sexcopter8000mpixelfairy, what do you mean? full of crap?02:18
pixelfairyyea02:18
hamdanjbzz : ive switched it off now...maybe the ol' thing needs a break..02:18
pixelfairythose protocols change all the time02:18
pixelfairyas any gaim user would tell you02:18
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pixelfairyif not full of it, then its probalby not doing things it should02:18
MrRioanyone know why i cant change my gtk theme using gnome-theme-manager after changing it in kde?02:18
jbzzIhamdan:    I see the recommended driver for that printer in the printer setup.  There were not too many drivers available.02:19
frogzooTusnal, Dapper perhaps?02:19
jbzzhamdan:   hpijs   appears to be the recommended printer driver.02:19
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frogzoo!tell Tusnal about dapper02:19
Tusnaloh maybe02:20
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jbzzhamdan:  Hey there is another printer entry called Laserjet 4 series and it suggests a different driver.02:20
Tusnalcan i type an url here?02:20
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frogzooTusnal, yep02:20
hamdanjbzz : i've just noticed that02:20
hamdanjbzz : that wasnt there before02:20
jbzzhamdan:    Called   High Quality Image (Gimp-Print) (gimp-pint) (Suggested)02:21
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Tusnalhttp://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu see.. here is a version called "snapshot" that got all new packages02:21
jbzzaybe that is worth a try at this point.02:21
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Tusnalit is probably dapper but i dont know02:21
jbzzhamdan:    Maybe that is worth a try at this point.02:21
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frogzooTusnal, dapper is pretty bleeding edge - I think that's about as messy as it gets/or you'd want02:22
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Tusnalfrogzoo: i just want to give it a try .. what do u recommend?02:22
jbzzhamdan:    Strange that such closely related models have completely different drivers suggested.02:23
frogzooTusnal, depends on your experience/confidence & what you're trying to do - but dapper will break on you regardless02:23
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drummer87Tusnal, remember there is a big warning about NOT using dapper as ur main os. test it separately.02:23
alex____hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?02:23
alex___hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?02:23
drummer87there's lots about it in the forums. when they're back up02:23
Tusnalso i better get the stable one .. 5.10 will work i guess so02:24
jbzzhamdan:  I still feel we must have the modified line correct.   Otherwise the garbage would not have gone to the correct sharepoint.02:24
Tusnalthx you guys02:24
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drummer87Tusnal, feel free to test dapper.. just know it's just for testing and will break often with changes the devs make every day02:25
adubis there a command i can run to find out my hard drive rpm02:25
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Tusnallater thx02:26
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superposihola a tod@s02:26
superposihi at all02:26
hamdanjbzz  : hpijs driver dont work at all02:26
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jbzzhamdan:    I was just nosing around in Google looking for any suggestions.02:27
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hamdanjbzz : my printer now shos error 20 mem overflow02:29
hamdan:)02:29
hamdanjbzz : my printer now shows error 20 mem overflow02:29
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jbzzhamdan:    As if it has received more data than it can handle.02:30
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hamdanjbzz : youre right..02:30
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hamdanmemory overflow02:30
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jbzzhamdan:   Or maybe because we are turning it on and off and the buffer control is brain dead.02:30
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jbzzhamdan:    I saw something on Google.  Let me look at that.02:30
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hamdanok02:31
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fourebeesHi all. Just a quick questions. I tried to access the Ubuntu forum just now and ... nothing. The site didn't come up. Is there a problem with it?02:31
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robotgeek!forumsdown02:31
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)02:31
fourebeesno probs ubotu. Thanks for that. This is the first time I've been on this channel and the service has been impeccable :))02:32
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hubbadubhas anyone gotten Alpha Centauri to work in Cedega?02:33
fourebeesthanks all. Hope you have a good day/night where ever you are.02:33
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mtlifeif i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?02:36
alex___hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?02:36
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rotemxine, mplayer and xmms are seg faulting at start up, how can i fix this?02:38
kestashmm02:38
kestasdoes totem segfault?02:38
_jasonrotem: did you get them from the repos?02:38
jbzzhamdan:    Well I did not find anything helpful.  There were others that had lots of formfeeds.  But I did not see any solutions.02:39
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rotemkestas, yes02:39
rotem_jason, yes02:39
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n00bhey guys are there any other distro's like damn small linux?02:39
jbzzhamdan:    Most suspected that the drivers were incorrect (such as using postscript) but no solutions were noted.  You cannot be the only one with this problem.02:40
_jasonrotem: run 'mplayer' in a terminal.  get any useful info?   are you using breezy?02:40
rotem_jason, i am runnign breezy and ti segfaults before it does anything02:40
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kestasrotem, how do you know it's segfaulting?02:40
jbzzhamdan:  Maybe it would be worth asking others here which driver works with the Laserjet 4.02:40
rotemkestas, it says02:40
kestasrotem, are you on any special hardware? 64-bit?02:41
hamdanjbzz : rite..anyone?02:41
_jasonrotem: mplayer -ao null /path/to/some/movie02:41
rotemkestas, nope regular 32 bit02:41
kestaswhat does it say?02:41
hamdananyone : laserjet 4 plus problem here...02:41
rotem_jason, still segfaults02:42
kestashamdan, a google would be more productive, you probably wont find anyone with some obscure printer here02:42
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kestashow do you know it's segfaulting?02:42
JoeBlowi accidentl deleted my trach icon, how do i put it back02:42
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_jasonrotem: try 'mplayer -vo  null /path/to/movie'02:42
kestasJoeBlow, right click on the panel, click add02:42
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jbzzhaman:    Take a look at this:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_402:43
rotem_jestas: same02:43
_jasonrotem: did it ever work, or always seg faulted?02:43
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rotem_jason, it used to work. i dont remember doign anythign before ti stoppepd working02:43
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kestashow do you know it's segfaulting?02:43
alex___hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?02:43
rotemkestas, it says02:43
kestaswhat does it say?02:43
_jasonrotem: you have tried different files?02:44
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rotem_jason, yes, same thing02:44
robotgeekalex___: what kind of problems? please give details?02:44
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rotem_jason, do these programs all use the same lib?02:45
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hamdanjbvv : that should be http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus02:45
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_jasonrotem: mplayer and xmms are pretty related, I think xmms likes to keep to itself but it does use the w32codecs for wmv9.  I don't know too many details though02:46
mtlifeif i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?02:46
rotem_jason, coudl it be that my w32codecs is corrupt02:46
_jasonrotem: try a file that doesn't use w32codecs02:47
_jasonprobably not02:47
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rotemdeletign the codecs doesnt help02:48
alex___robotgeek: well when apache is up, and when I try to connect via dhclient the internet is ok but some minutes later the internet gone, and I thin k that is because they are trying to use the 127.0.0.102:48
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rotem_jason, btw gstreamer works02:48
kestasI'd try reinstalling all xine libs02:48
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kestascould be motif thouhg02:49
rotemthanks for your help but i need to go02:49
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kestascould be a number of things02:49
robotgeekalex___: your wireless drops when apache is running?02:49
alex___robotgeek: yes02:50
robotgeekalex___: which wireless card is this?02:50
tattersanyone running snort-mysql on ubuntu?02:50
DevGethi all! I'm looking for a good formula and writing program, oo.org2 formula editor isn't my friend..02:50
alex___robotgeek: is D-Link02:51
_jasonDevGet: learn latex02:51
luiteDevGet: kformula maybe?02:51
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robotgeekalex___: not ndiswrapper, i hope?02:51
robotgeekDevGet: latex?02:52
jbzzhaman:    From the one page I read it appears as though the HPijs driver is appropriate for the Laserjet 402:52
DevGetlatex feels a little bit overkill, but maybe not...02:52
alex___robotgeek: no, the card found well02:52
alex___robotgeek: the problem in only when I try to connet with my card02:52
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tattersis there anything like snort ubuntu supports without opening up multiverse?02:53
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Dasnipa`jbzz: turboprint is a nice driver02:53
robotgeekalex___: there isn't any relation between apache + wireless, AFAIK. i've run it on my laptop successfully for ages02:53
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jbzzhaman:    Dasnipa:    human has a Laserjet 4    When he send text to it it form fed an awful lot of papaer.02:54
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hamdanjbzz : laserjet 4 plus02:55
hamdanjbzz: not laserjet 402:55
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tattersanyone use acidlab and ubuntu?02:55
Dasnipa`hamdan, if you dont mind spending a bit of cash turboprint is among the best utils ive seen02:55
jbzzhamdan:   Ah.   Got it.   Dasnipa do you have any experience with the Laserjet 4 Plus?02:55
Dasnipa`but no, i dont have any exp with the specific printer02:56
Dasnipa`i just know that driver is exceptionally good at supporting printers02:56
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sweet_katehi02:56
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sweet_katehow tdo i extract a rar archive?02:57
sweet_katehow do i extract a rar archive?02:57
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Dasnipa`the linuxprinting talks about that driver quite a bit02:57
sweet_katehi Dasnipa`02:57
sweet_kate:)02:57
tattersanyone interested in network security and use ubuntu?02:57
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jbzzhamdan:   http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus      <==  Take a look at this page02:58
Dasnipa`i imagine one of the archive programs supports it... did you read their manuals sweet_kate ?02:58
sweet_kateno!02:58
JoeBlow!ubotu tell me about restricted formats02:58
sweet_kate!rar02:58
ubotuit has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression02:58
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hamdanjbzz : am looking now02:58
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ahoorasweet_kate just search for "unofficial ubuntu" in google and go to first link02:59
_jasonahoora: that guide is outdated, help.ubuntu.com and the wiki is better02:59
hamdanjbzz : we are using the Postscript02:59
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jbzzhamdan:   OK.   Maybe that is where we went wrong.03:00
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Hoxzerwhat would be good client to split vfat partition03:00
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superposi\NICK superposi:personal03:00
jbzzhamdan:   Are you saying your office uses Postscript or that we are trying ti use Postscript?03:00
superposihi at all03:01
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hamdanjbzz : we r trying to use the default postscript03:01
tattersanyone any idea when ubuntu forums gunna be back up?03:01
gnomefreaktatters: today 10 am eastern us time03:02
tattersk, thnx03:02
tatterslol whats that GMT03:02
gnomefreakdont know :(03:03
hamdantoo advanced for me03:03
gnomefreak!forumsdown03:03
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)03:03
mtlifeif i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?03:03
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tattersis automatix hosted on same server I cannot download it 404 error?03:04
JoeBlowi really cant get w32 codecs to work, maybe its cause the command i try on the ubuntu wiki doesnt work03:04
JoeBlowi dunno03:04
tattersthe script ^03:04
robotgeek!automatix03:04
ubotuwell, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!03:04
gnomefreak!automatix03:04
gnomefreakoops :(03:04
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tattershmm03:05
hamdanjbzz : i have no ideas03:06
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jbzzhamdan:     For the Laserjet 4 Plus I see that our options are:   Postscript (recommended)   hpijs   lj4dith   ljet403:06
hamdanjbzz : thats right03:06
tattersI guuess I should leave it alone then03:06
gnomefreaksomeone in here keeps recommending automatix because he/she had no issues but for the biggest part most people have had and will have issues with it :)03:06
jbzzhamdan:      The one fellow on the page I mentioned suggested the    ljet4 as being fast and the best choice for long text documents.03:06
gnomefreaktatters: i would say dump it and go with easyubuntu03:07
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gnomefreakubotu tell tatters about easyubuntu03:07
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jbzzhamdan:   Overall qualiy was good.    Maybe you should try that.03:07
jbzzhamdan:     The problem is that it will change our modification.03:07
tatterslol, I guess he dont want to03:08
theSamoautomatix's only issue is adding too much repos03:08
theSamoif you're gonna add them , why not just so it yourself instead03:08
gnomefreaktatters: he sent it to u03:08
hamdanjbzz : but why?03:08
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tattersoh right, sorry didnt realise I another tab pop up03:08
gnomefreaktatters: you should have ubotus msg in your pm03:09
jbzzhamdan:     When you make a change to a setting I think it will creatre a new file, not just replace oine line.  But I might be wrong.03:09
tattersyup got it gnome thnx03:09
jbzzhamdan:   I would like to be wrong  :)03:09
tattersnot used irc bfr03:09
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gnomefreakyw tatters03:09
hamdancan i check with the terminal?03:09
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robotgeektheSamo: not true, it also uses a --force-yes in all installation lines, i would recommend reading "man apt-get" for their veiws on that03:10
gnomefreaki have no use for automatix and never have so from a personal stand point i dont have a clue what it does ;) safer that way03:11
jbzzhamdan:   Y03:11
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theSamoi didnt too, but i used it anyways03:11
jbzzhamdan:   I think I am right about that.  I bet it will re-create the file.  Thus the one line we changed would revert.03:11
jbzzhamdan:   But we are running low on alternatives.03:12
JoeBlowwell, i tries running the wiki to install w32 codecs and all ig et is errors in the shell03:12
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Seveassigh, are people stell recommending crapomatix?03:14
Seveasstill*03:14
robotgeekSeveas: sad, but true03:15
gnomefreakyeah i know one person that does :(03:15
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hamdanjbzz : i dunno...im all dried up03:15
tatterswhen I read about ppl should not run as ROOT, is running Root on linux more insecure than running root in windows?03:15
ilba7rSeveas, no matter your opinion of it it has helped a lot of newbies. Di not use it and did not recommend it my self. But its existance mean there is a need for it or something like it03:15
Seveasilba7r, nonsense. It only helps wrecking systems03:16
jbzzhamdan:   Hold on one minute.  Let me try something.03:16
Seveasthat is not an opinion, it's a fact.03:16
SeveasAnd if there's a need to change things: file bugs so the real developers can solve things for everyone03:16
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Seveasinstead of boasting some scriptkiddies ego03:16
ccc_newbies are only helped by learning to do something the proper way03:16
MartinMagnussonHi. I just installed Amarok via synaptic, but doing so conflicts with FirstClass, so I'd like to remove it again. Simply uninstalling it from synaptic doesn't help. Does synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing, so that I can remove amarok completely?03:17
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ilba7rSeveas, that is my opinion. and if you wana take it further would love a chat at offtopic03:17
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Seveasccc_, not even by learning neccessarily, but by letting a script ruin their setup they'll only get pissed off :)03:17
virogenesisi prefer the ubuntuguide over automatix03:18
Seveasilba7r, hard fact: recommending automatix will only be rewarded with a ban.03:18
Seveasvirogenesis, ubuntuguide is almost just as bad03:18
tattersspeaking from a 4 day old noob perspective, it seems there is too many ways to do the same thing,its confusing when solutions are interspersed with GUI and CLI answers03:18
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Seveasvirogenesis, automatix does what ubuntuguide says - automatically....03:18
Lordfuck03:18
tattersthey should split up help into 2 distinct sections03:18
Seveasvirogenesis, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are the official ubuntu documentation03:18
robotgeekLord: language please03:18
gnomefreaktatters: do it both ways and pick what one you like better03:18
virogenesiswiki.ubuntu.com is unusable03:18
robotgeektatters: you might prefer the Ubuntu Start Guide, Click the help button03:18
ccc_Seveas: exactly03:19
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Seveasvirogenesis, then there's always help.ubuntu.com03:19
gnomefreakvirogenesis: give it time03:19
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Lordoh sorry, im prove if the keys are good03:19
ilba7rSeveas, a ban from a volunteer work that is new. And hardly a humanit to other :)03:19
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jbzzhamdan:   I created a Laserjet 4 Plus connection and selected the ljet4 driver.   I do not see the driver listed in the printers.conf file.  So it must hold the driver in another file.03:19
virogenesiseven docs. gwos.org is better03:19
Seveasilba7r, don;t go that way...03:19
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tattersBu it gets confusing and wastes days finding the right way03:19
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nalioth_zZzLord: "test" is the four letter word you should use03:19
robotgeekvirogenesis: if you find something bad, comments on why it's bad is welcome.03:20
Lordtanks03:20
ilba7rSeveas, again did not recommend it and never used it. But if that is the atitude here thank take care all. bye03:20
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jbzzhamdan:   I would say we are cooked unless we try a change.  So I guess we should try to use the   ljet4  driver.03:20
Lordthanks03:20
hamdanjbzz : ok03:20
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Seveasilba7r, the attitude here is very hard against automatix and other crap like it since it costs us countless hours of helping people repair the damage it does03:21
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Seveasah, too late03:21
virogenesisrobot a guide to getting pure ftpd to work with mysql 4.1 would be good :P03:21
Seveaswell, let it be a warning to everyone then :)03:21
jbzzhamdan:   Probably try changing the driver in the printer we already made.03:21
hamdanjbzz : i've tried the ljet4 driver still not happening03:21
virogenesisrobotgeek,03:21
virogenesis:)03:21
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Seveasvirogenesis, that's not too difficult03:21
tattersfor example enabling wpa on a default ubuntu install, there is some editing of the interfaces.conf file now thats plain txt03:21
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jbzzhamdan:   Well the file might need modified again.  Take a look at it.    cd  /etc/cups03:22
virogenesisseveas doesn't it involve patching pure-ftpd?03:22
cafuego!dstats03:22
ubotuUbuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18267 packages, 1641 maintainers, 36109 MB installed size, 11215 MB compressed size.03:22
Seveastatters, wpa is not officially supported yet, and lots of work is being done to make it easier03:22
robotgeekvirogenesis: hmm, let me see if the wiki has anything on it03:22
jbzzhamdan:   then:    cat  printers.conf03:22
CyorxampHey, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?03:22
tattersnow surely it should be encrytped03:22
Seveasvirogenesis, you need: pure-ftpd-mysql - Pure-FTPd FTP server with MySQL user authentication03:22
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jbzzhamdan:   Look for the line having to do with     smb://03:22
virogenesisSeveas,  does pure-ftpd-mysql support 4.1 out of the box thats the thing03:23
hamdanat: printers.conf: Permission denied03:23
JoeBlowsomehow my trash icon got deleted does anyonekno whwo to get it back, its not in the add panels menu03:23
LordWhy i download music from the net with linux??03:23
hamdancat: printers.conf: Permission denied03:23
Cyorxampdoes anyone know?03:23
Lordwhy i can03:23
mwehamdan: sudo cat03:23
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gnomefreakyou have to sudo to use cat?03:23
jbzzhamdan:   in that directory:   sudo cat printers.conf03:23
mwegnomefreak: for printer.conf yes03:23
mwegnomefreak: it's owned by cupsys with perms 60003:24
Seveasvirogenesis, it uses libmysqlclient1003:24
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gnomefreakahhhh ok03:24
MartinMagnussonDoes synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing things?03:24
tristanJoeBlow : it IS in the add panels menu03:24
CyorxampHi, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?03:24
JoeBlowtristan, well i couldnt find it03:24
Lordi dont know what use to find or download music with linux from internet03:24
hamdansmb://  line not there03:25
Seveasvirogenesis, but that should work with 4.103:25
MorfosomoMartinMagnusson, you can select an installed app in sinaptic and do right click-properties and select installed files03:25
tristanJoeBlow : it is in the subsection Desktop and Windows when you've clicked right on the panel and choose add to panel03:25
virogenesisok i'll try getting them to talk :)03:25
tattersI cannot find any snort mysql acidlab guides for Ubuntu, is there anything other than this? or is a debian guide I found going to be the closest to an ubuntu installation, or will there be differences and wont work?03:25
deFryskLord, for binarie downloads from newsgroups you can use pan03:26
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virogenesislord: apt-get install nicotine03:26
mweLord: you shouldn't download music. but dc-gui or azareus or any p2p app would let you do it03:26
Morfosomoubuntu is based on debian,.. it should do the trick03:26
virogenesis:)03:26
deFryskLord, p2p you can use aMule or bittorrent03:26
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jbzzhamdan:   Well that would explain why nothing printed.03:26
Cyorxampanyone know about my display problem?03:26
CyorxampI feel like I am talking to myself here03:26
virogenesisnicotine is thw way to go for music03:26
deFrysk!anyone03:26
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>03:26
virogenesislol03:27
jbzzhamdan:     Kind of hard to deal with situations like this.03:27
Cyorxamplook I have already asked the REAL question TWICE03:27
Cyorxampand it was ignored03:27
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Seveas!anyone =~ s/You decide/find out/03:27
ubotuOK, Seveas03:27
hamdanjbzz : i really appreciate it tho'03:27
mweCyorxamp: please be patient.03:27
hamdanjbzz : maybe we can try again ?03:27
frazmanwwhich instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages03:27
jbzzhamdan:   I am trying to think of the easiest way to go about this.03:28
Zandaahi peoples....03:28
drummer87does anyone here know what module i need for my nforce3 mobo to get onboard sound working?03:28
robotgeekvirogenesis: i was not able to find anything relevant, maybe you can write one :)03:28
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ZandaaI can officially say... I hate Microsoft03:28
Seveashi Zandaa03:28
hamdanjbzz : ure a good man/gal/robot03:28
Zandaaseveas, guess what happend?03:28
Cyorxampit just narks me that some goon who wants to 'download da music' gets advise but a real problem goes IGNORED03:28
SeveasZandaa, hehe, how come?03:28
jbzzhamdan:   bot03:28
hamdanjbzz : lol03:28
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Zandaaseveas, I added an extra stick of RAM to my hardware and windows started nagging that my hardware setup was alterated...03:29
hamdani hate bill gates too!!03:29
Zandaaseveas, thus forcing me to re-activate it03:29
mweCyorxamp: maybe nobody knows right now03:29
virogenesisrobotgeek,  i wasn't able to find one myself thats why i mentioned it all i found was a patch sometime ago03:29
SeveasZandaa, lol03:29
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jbzzhamdan:   Did you write down the line you entered last?   The best version you had?03:29
CyorxampI just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?03:29
Zandaaseveas, if it was me I'd have fully switched to ubuntu03:29
hamdanjbzz : no i didnt03:29
SeveasCyorxamp, edit xorg.conf and make sure the 2nd monitor gets a different resolution...03:29
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CyorxampSeveas, ubuntu thinks I only have one monitor I think - it beleives the res is 1280x102403:30
gnomefreakthere is only 2 things that windows does that is much harder to do in linux :(03:30
Cyorxampbut the problematic monitor only shows 640x480 at any one time03:30
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frazmanwwhich instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages03:30
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CarinArrhey, is there any way to find out what processes take up memory?03:30
Lordthanks defrysk03:30
mwegnomefreak: what are those :)03:30
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jbzzhamdan:     OK it was something like:    smb://peter:secret@obter5/obter5/Printer603:30
SeveasCyorxamp, then you'll have to teach ubuntu by editing xorg.conf03:30
JoeBlowis their a way to empty trash through shell?03:31
virogenesisrobotgeek, how about a guide to ripping dvds with acidrip?03:31
CyorxampSeveas, in what way?03:31
jbzzhamdan:   That should point you in the right direction03:31
deFryskLord, also nicotie was suggested witch is also a nice p2p client03:31
_jasonJoeBlow: rm ~/.Trash/*03:31
virogenesisi reckon i could do that :)03:31
deFrysknicotine03:31
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robotgeekvirogenesis: i don't own a dvd writer, so i havent even looked03:31
gnomefreakmwe: ipod crap and charge for crap :)03:31
hamdanjbzz : yeah03:32
mwegnomefreak: heh.03:32
hamdanjbzz : shud i open notepad?03:32
virogenesisi'll do one... robotgeek  i ripped a dvd perfectly the otherday was ace03:32
CarinArri have three terminals open atm, and according to free, they take up 300MB of ram.. which sounds excessive;)03:32
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jbzzhamdan:     Well here is where we run into the permission thing again.03:32
LordThe Gimp for design is too basic, but exist othe program to  design mayor and more complete???03:32
CarinArri mean i'm running fluxbox so that shouldn't take up too much03:32
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CyorxampHow does the xorg.conf need editing?03:33
robotgeekvirogenesis: all you need to do is document what you do, and ppl will add to it :)03:33
jbzzhamdan:   if   mwe   is around maybe he has a simpler way to modify that file.03:33
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newuserI see that i have nautilus-cd-burner installed, how can I access it? It is not in my Applications list.03:33
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JoeBlowthis is so redicioulous, i had an old linux harddrive, and so i just deleted all the folder for it, and now it wont let me empty them, through terminal it tells me cannot delete directories, or it will tell me i dont have premission through gnome03:33
virogenesisok then robotgeek  cheers mate03:33
hamdanmwe : ?03:33
mwegnomefreak: Yesterday someone was trying to teach me how superior windows is at everything, and that linux is a toy OS where everything is hard and you don't get your work done :)03:33
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Cyorxampmwe you there?03:33
LordI design characteres for cellphone games and i need athe best program for linux to design03:33
topyliLord: gimp is not what i'd call "basic". what sort of design are you talking about?03:33
mwehamdan: what?03:33
gnomefreaklol mwe i find most things are easier in linux than winblows03:34
hamdanmwe : simpler way to get my printer to work03:34
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mwehamdan: I don't know if the drivers don't work03:34
gnomefreaktuxpaint= basic03:34
jbzzmwe:  actually a simpler way to modify the printers.conf file03:34
virogenesislord if you do vector try inkscape its pretty good03:34
JoeBlowcan somone help me empty my trash03:34
Lordbut gimp is not who photoshop03:34
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gnomefreakthe gimp is advanced if anything03:34
virogenesislord...gimpshop03:34
topyliLord: what exactly is the gimp lacking?03:34
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mwejbzz: hamdan just sudo nano /etc/cups/printers.conf in a terminal03:35
_jasonJoeBlow: I told you, rm -r ~/.Trash/*03:35
Lordgimp image editor03:35
mwejbzz: hamdan or gksudo gedit /etc/cups/printers.conf if you prefer gedit03:35
gnomefreaktopyli: ease of use :)03:35
JoeBlow_jason, it tells me cannot delete directories03:35
Seveazargh@my provider03:35
_jasonJoeBlow: try the new one, with -r03:35
deFryskrm -rf03:35
topylignomefreak: true enough :)03:35
mwestohi all are there frensh here?03:35
mwe!fr03:35
ubotuVa a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais03:35
Lordbut can i patch photoshop for run in linux???03:35
mweLord: no03:35
jbzzmwe:  I am not familiar with that editor    I use vi   and I use it as root   this is rough to work him through the modification.03:36
mwestook thx!03:36
JoeBlow_jason, didnt give me an error msg, but the things are still in their03:36
pappanmwe: does wine help03:36
Lordor patch painshop pro???03:36
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mweLord: if you have a lot of patience maybe you can get version 7 to work in wine03:36
hamdanmwe : done that in terminal .. now what?03:36
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CarinArrwell according to free something is using 300MB out of my memory03:36
CarinArrer03:36
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CarinArrwrong window03:36
mweLord: I'm running it in vmware but it's not free03:36
Lordversion 7 of THE GIMP???03:36
pappanCarinArr: use top03:36
hamdanmwe : only two lines03:36
X-rayWDhello people, I've got a Ubuntu problem03:36
Cyorxampsomething tells me I should switch to Mandriva03:37
X-rayWDlol03:37
JoeBlowX-rayWD, cant load harddrives?03:37
jbzzhamdan:   Well guess we can try what we did before since it worked.03:37
topyliLord: just learn to use the gimp. it will take less time than messing with windows apps on linux03:37
Cyorxampthis thing can even use a monitor properly out of the box03:37
_jasonJoeBlow: what things?  maybe you need to do Trash/.* as well03:37
CarinArrpappan, yeah top says only 5.7% is in use tho.. and 300MB is a lot more than 5.7%03:37
mwehamdan: I don't know what you wanna change in the file. isn't the printer wizard letting you choose the driver you need?03:37
jbzzhamdan:   Are you in the directory    /etc/cups   ?03:37
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CarinArri'm just wondering cause my machine feels very sluggish all of a sudden03:37
X-rayWDno, there is a Fatal Error: No Screen Found... and yet, I can see this in windows :X03:37
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gnomefreakthe gimp is on version 2.x not anything near 703:37
Lordwhoa03:37
deFryskLord, sudo apt-get install grokking-the-gimp03:37
hamdanmwe : been thru the printer wizard..dont work..03:37
JoeBlow_jason, i type that in exactly like u said right?03:38
virogenesislord if you really need photoshop crossover office will allow you to use it03:38
JoeBlow_jason, all the files are still in their03:38
gnomefreakdeFrysk: whats that?03:38
mwehamdan: I don't know why. is it a local or remote printer?03:38
CyorxampAre there any other ubuntu support channels?03:38
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deFryskgnomefreak, GIMP tutorial book by Carey Bunks (HTML)03:38
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_jasonJoeBlow: ls ~/.Trash, are things in there?03:38
jbzzhamdan:   Hey, maybe we should just delete that printer and start over with a better copy of printers.conf03:38
akairoshello guys can i ask some UBUNTU question?????????????????03:38
X-rayWDsomeone with experience wants to go one on one chat because reading this gives me headaches :S03:38
topyliCarinArr: maybe something is leaking memor and your machine is swapping. check with free03:38
Lordto install linux in windows, can i install the two plataforms in one pc???03:38
gnomefreakoh ty ty ty03:38
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hamdanjbzz: ok03:38
LordI need a partition or not??03:39
Seveazakairos, not if you keep using that many question marks...03:39
JoeBlow_jason, yea, it shows some of the folders, but not near all the ones in the trash icon03:39
Cyorxampakairos, youll be lucky if they even read what you put in here03:39
akairoswhat to do then?03:39
kitty_Can someone tell me how to convert Ogg to Mp3...?03:39
CarinArrtopyli, heh, i did check with free, it says 300MB is in use03:39
topyliLord: yes you can dual boot and choose your system at every boot03:39
_jasonJoeBlow: erm maybe there is another trash I don't know about03:39
SeveazCyorxamp, act normal...03:39
trappistCarinArr: ogg2mp303:39
hamdanjbzz: lets star over03:39
X-rayWDJOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem03:39
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CyorxampSeveas, thats quite a statement03:39
SeveazCyorxamp, if no one can help you it doesn't mean no one wants to03:39
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topyliCarinArr: 300M of swap?03:39
jbzzhamdan:   hamdan:   Yes.   Delete the old one and create a new printer.03:39
CyorxampSeveas, nonsense03:39
CarinArrtopyli, no, 300MB of memory, only 1000 of swap03:40
Seveazakairos, just ask, don't pay attention to Cyorxamp03:40
trappistCarinArr: oh.  oops.  yes :)03:40
X-rayWDJOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem03:40
hamdanjbzz: done03:40
SeveazX-rayWD, just ask in here and stop repeating...03:40
CyorxampSeveas, you have told me to edit the xorg.cong file - without even saying how03:40
jbzzhamdan:   Did you choose the ljet4 driver?03:40
Lordsomeone tell me what linux auto search a place in the disc for installing03:40
arrinmurrLord: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631 - there's some kind of howto to get photoshop (cs2) to run on wine03:40
kitty_Can someone tell me how to convert Ogg to Mp3...?03:40
trappistX-rayWD: doesn't work that way.  nobody knows if they can solve it until you tell us what the problem is, whereupon we will try to solve it here so everyone can benefit.03:41
SeveazCyorxamp, I guess my answer didn't reach you before my provider cut me of, hold on03:41
hamdanjbzz : yes i did03:41
mwekitty_: someone told you03:41
X-rayWD"Fatal Error - No screen found03:41
CyorxampSeveas, I have the file up - but I dunno what bit needs changing03:41
akairosso... i try to install the UBUNTU 5.10 but it allways gets stuck on the partitioner03:41
JoeBlow_jason, it even goes to say /home/brian/.trash directory doesnt exist03:41
trappistX-rayWD: nvidia card?03:41
akairos...03:41
kitty_well can someone tell me again.. plaese03:41
SeveazX-rayWD, complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the pastebin please03:41
Lordohhh tanks03:41
X-rayWDnvidea03:41
Cyorxampcan't we talk in PM Seveas? less crowded?03:41
deFryskkitty_, sudo apt-get install sound-converter03:41
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mwekitty_: I think sox can do it03:41
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_jasonJoeBlow: capital T03:41
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deFryskkitty_, it does it all03:41
topyliCarinArr: well, 300M out of 512m is in use on this box too, and everything is fine03:41
X-rayWDI've got nVidea yeah is this the problem03:42
trappistkitty_: there's a program called ogg2mp3, but it doesn't look like ubuntu has it.03:42
jbzzhamdan:   OK.  Then we need to modify that one line again.03:42
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Lordi need to design the Aeon flux official game to cellphone03:42
deFrysk!soundconverter03:42
ubotudeFrysk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?03:42
JoeBlow_jason, ok03:42
CarinArrtopyli, yeah but is that with only the window manager and terminal windows running?03:42
pappanCarinArr: what does /proc/meminfo says03:42
deFrysk!info soundconverter03:42
fredrichWhats up with ubuntuforums.org03:42
ubotusoundconverter: (simple sound converter application for GNOME), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 208 kB03:42
Seveaz!forumsdown03:42
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)03:42
Lordthaks03:42
JoeBlow_jason, oh i wasnt copying i was just typing close to what it says03:42
fredrichThanks03:42
kitty_trappist: i cant find it.. wot do i do?03:42
mwekitty_: sox foo.ogg foo.mp3 I believe03:42
pappanCarinArr: does that give some mor info ?03:42
deFryskkitty_, use soundconverter03:42
JoeBlow_jason, ok that got most of it, but i deleted a root partition manually, and it left all the folders in their and wont remove them, or even see them through terminal03:43
trappistkitty_: here's a perl script that does it: http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp303:43
Seveaz15:31:44 <Seveas>   Cyorxamp, unfortunately, I wouldn't know - I didn't manage the voodoo of writing xorg configurations yet. Google may be able to help if no one in here steps up03:43
deFryskkitty_, it conversts various types03:43
jbzzhamdan:   Hang on one.03:43
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CarinArrpappan, not really03:43
topylikitty_: don't lose your ogg files though. converting from one lossy format to another does bad things to sound quality03:43
jbzzhamdan:       Let me think about this.03:43
hamdanjbzz : ok03:43
Cyorxampinterstellar help there03:43
CarinArrif something is leaking memory would that be cleared when that application is terminated?03:43
deFryskkitty_, do you hear me ?03:43
SeveazCyorxamp, as I said, I'd love to help if I knew how to03:43
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Seveazdon't think that people in here don't want to help03:44
n00bhow do i make a slackware DVD from the CDs?03:44
topyliCarinArr: yes03:44
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Cyorxampwhy on earth can't ubuntu just use a monitor properly!?03:44
CyorxampI mean come on!03:44
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fredrichBtw; Anyone know if it's possible to use a laptop to output stuff from ones desktop computer over tcp/ip? Like if i want to run top or tail messages onto my laptop while working on my desktop?03:44
pappanCarinArr: yes i guess it should be03:44
SeveazCyorxamp, ranting in here won't help...03:44
X-rayWDCyorxamp: I got the same issue03:44
CarinArrcyorxamp, sounds like the problem is with your grahics driver not ubuntu itself03:44
trappistCyorxamp: does the word 'virtual' appear anywhere in your xorg.conf?03:44
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Cyorxamplook how a rant gets the attention?03:44
Lordbye, a lots of greethings, sorry for the faults to write, i am chilean03:44
CarinArrmight be the software i'm betatesting then03:44
Cyorxamplol03:44
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MrRioanyone know of any wget gui's (for any platform)03:44
MrRio?03:44
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topyliMrRio: gwget for gnome03:45
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jbzzhamdan:   Lets try what awe suggested.  It might shorten this process.   In the terminal window    ...03:45
newuserlooking to burn cd's, and iso's how do I?03:45
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Cyorxamptrappist, no 'virtual'03:45
SeveazMrRio, gwget or gwget203:45
trappistCyorxamp: what card?03:45
pappanCarinArr: i guess you can look at /proc for that process which may give some clue03:45
mwenewuser: in k3b it's easy03:45
CyorxampATI Radeon 950003:45
topylinewuser: in gnome, you can do it in the file manager03:45
ccc_MrRio: kget for kde03:45
pixelfairytrying the java thing from RestrictedFormats,and fakroot make-jpkg is giving alot of premission errors03:45
jbzzhamdan:      type:       sudo  nano  profile.conf                just like that   then enter your password03:45
trappistCyorxamp: how was your xorg.conf generated?03:45
pixelfairyis that normal?03:45
CarinArrcyorxamp, is this using an nvidia card, and have you recently upgraded the kernel?03:45
Lordthere is a latin man or latin chic in this server????03:45
SeveazLord, ?03:46
X-rayWDtrappist: nVidia03:46
Cyorxampone of my monitors displays 1280x1024 ok  and the other only displays 640x480 at any one time03:46
Cyorxamptrappist, sez its by dexconf03:46
MrRioccc_, cheers03:46
SeveazLord, this is a support channel, for general chatter you'd better move to a more appropriate channel03:46
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trappistX-rayWD: sounds like you need to install the nvidia drivers03:46
hamdandone03:46
MrRioSeveas, oh and you :)03:46
Lordto speak spanish, i am a garbage speaking english03:46
trappistCyorxamp: are you using ati's proprietary drivers (fglrx)?03:46
CyorxampSeveas, I agree03:46
CarinArri couldn't get the packaged nvidia drivers working with the 12-10 kernel, had to get the ones from nvidia03:46
SeveazLord, #ubuntu-es03:46
Cyorxampno, ubuntu just installed03:46
CarinArrgave me the same error as you lot are having03:47
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Lordahhhh thanks again03:47
jbzzhamdan:   That should place you in an editor called   'nano'03:47
Cyorxampcouldn't this support channel be split up into sections? (just a thought) for different areas of support03:47
X-rayWDtrappist: they are present in device list... are there special driver installs for ubuntu or linux?03:47
trappistCyorxamp: if you have your extra repositories setup (restricted, universe, multiverse...) sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and run fglrxconfig03:47
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hamdanjbzz : nano 1.3.803:47
Cyorxamptrappist, bleh!?03:47
SeveazCyorxamp, wouldn't help :)03:47
setuidAnyone know how to get the latest KDE into Breezy? 3.4.3 seems to be the latest.03:47
hamdanjbzz : file : profile.conf03:47
akairoshmm...seems i nee to ask again03:48
trappistX-rayWD: there are special drivers from nvidia - I think there are ubuntu packages (maybe xorg-driver-nvidia) but I use the ones from nvidia.com03:48
akairos...03:48
mwesetuid: yes03:48
Cyorxampwatches as trappist's word fly past his head03:48
jbzzhamdan:   I don't use that editor but I can see how it can be used.   Now modify the line that needs changed.03:48
gnomefreakCyorxamp: thats not possible if you have 3 things that may cause same issue you would be bouncing people around03:48
X-rayWDtrappist: thanx I'll check it out!03:48
trappistCyorxamp: lemme try again.  first, listen to the bot...03:48
mwesetuid: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main03:48
ccc_setuid: check kubuntu.org for the repositorys03:48
trappist!tell Cyorxamp about repos03:48
mwesetuid: add the to your sources.list03:48
newusermwe & topyli: I guess I was looking to open a gui. Still trying to get the feel of ubuntu.03:48
gnomefreakubotu tell setuid about easysources03:48
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trappistCyorxamp: follow those instructions, then 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'03:48
Cyorxampwhat is it supposed to do?03:49
hamdanjbzz : hamdan:      type:       sudo  nano  profile.conf                just like that   then enter your password03:49
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pixelfairy!easysources03:49
ubotuNO SPEAKE ENLISH!, pixelfairy03:49
Lordthaks, now i find the spanish server, chao.03:49
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mwenewuser: yes. k3b is a gui application03:49
Seveaz!easysource03:49
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic03:49
akairosso... i try to install the UBUNTU 5.10 but it allways gets stuck on the partitioner03:49
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pixelfairyubotu tell pixelfairy about easysources03:49
gnomefreakits !easy source03:49
hamdanjbzz: should that be printers.conf or profile.confi?03:49
trappistCyorxamp: you'll then be using drivers that support all your card's nifty features and have access to a config tool that will set you right up with your dual screen goodness03:49
deFrysksetuid, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php read it03:49
gnomefreakno space03:49
jbzzhamdan:     printers.conf03:49
mwepixelfairy: easysource03:50
Cyorxamptrappist, can you go over this in PM03:50
gnomefreakubotu tell pixelfairy about easysource03:50
trappistok03:50
Cyorxampthis channel just freaks me out03:50
gnomefreakthere better?03:50
jbzzhamdan:   I must be sleeping.03:50
Cyorxamptoo much chatter and im stuck on 640x48003:50
jbzzhamdan:      Make the changes but do not try to save until I discuss it with you first.03:50
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jariep1_hello03:51
akairosOi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!03:51
Seveashi jariep1_03:51
jariep1_hi Seveas03:51
hamdanjbzz : something is wrong03:51
jbzzhamdan:     Explain.03:51
hamdanjbzz : in printers.conf there are no lines!!?03:51
tattersive added update and security update in repositries and installed all updates. now when I add universe to download acidlab it says it will remove certian items,does it know what itsw doing or does it expect me to know what to do to repair whatever it breaks?03:52
smoseranybody have suggestions for a well supported PCI 80211G card?03:52
akairosguys03:52
jbzzhamdan:     I am going to guess you are not in the correct directory.03:52
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X-rayWDtrappist: how can you install a linux driver in windows? cant download it and use it in linux (only command line available03:52
akairoscan some1 explain to me, why yhe installer gets stux03:52
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hamdanjbzz : maybe ure right03:52
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mwetatters: paste sources.list to pastebin.com please03:52
jbzzhamdan:   So you are not picking up an existing file.  You are creating a new file.03:53
mwesmoser: any prism or prism2 based card should be good03:53
jariep1_is anybody having difficulty reaching ubuntuforums.org ?03:53
trappistX-rayWD: you can't.03:53
jbzzhamdan:   Hold the control key down and press the    x     key to close that session.03:53
hamdanjbzz : i neeed to pick up an existing file..what is the comd for that?03:53
smosermwe, running through wlanng?03:53
mwesmoser: what?03:53
tatterssorry mwe I am new to this, how do I this ?03:53
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mwetatters: go to the webpage and paste03:54
Seveas!tell jariep1_ about forumsdown03:54
jbzzhamdan:      Exit out by pressing     Ctrl   the   x03:54
akairosoh man!03:54
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akairosim talking for an hour!03:54
akairosOi!03:54
hamdanok done03:54
mwetatters: once you go there it's obvious what to do03:54
Seveasakairos, it gets stuck because it cannot go further03:54
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akairosthanx man03:54
akairos...03:54
Seveasakairos, and unless you can give more information about your system we can't give an answer that sucks less03:55
jariep1_Seveas, Thanks for the info03:55
gnomefreakheres an idea instead of asking whats with the forums how about asking you question in here?03:55
jbzzhamdan:     Hold the   Ctrl   key down then press     x03:55
X-rayWDcrap... I can't :(03:55
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Cyorxamptrappist, you there?03:56
mweX-rayWD: well ndiswrapper let03:56
hamdanjbzz : done03:56
Cyorxamptrappist, I just get... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un03:56
trappistCyorxamp: yep03:56
hamdanjbzz : at hamdan@etsb03:~$ now03:56
mweX-rayWD: use windows wifi drivers03:56
X-rayWDtrappist: I just found out I have an ATI card, sorry... anyone experienced with this?03:56
trappistCyorxamp: make sure a) you used 'sudo' and b) nothing like synaptic is currently running03:56
jbzzhamdan:     OK.   Now type   cd   /etc/cups03:56
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hamdanjbzz : done03:57
trappistX-rayWD: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx03:57
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Cyorxamptrappist, yeah I typed what you put, sudo being the command - what the hell is a synaptic?03:57
jbzzhamdan:      now :      sudo  nano  printers.conf03:57
gnomefreak!synaptic03:57
tattersok mwe ive got the webpage up where Do I find source list?03:57
ubotufrom memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto03:57
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hamdanjbzz : done03:57
trappistCyorxamp: a frontend for installing software.  if that or anything like it is running, you won't be able to install stuff.03:57
hamdanjbzz : this looks more like it03:57
mwetatters: /etc/apt/sources.list03:57
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tattersk03:58
Cyorxamptrappist, is it this thing in the top right that deals with updates?03:58
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X-rayWDthanx guys, I'll check this out...03:58
X-rayWDbb03:58
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jbzzhamdan:   OK.   Make the change you need to make then let me know when you have finished.  But do not exit out of nano.03:58
penguinzdrwhat's this database optimisation of the forums?03:58
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gnomefreakupdater also uses apt03:58
trappistCyorxamp: that's possible.  I almost know what you're talking about, but I don't use gnome so I'm not sure03:58
gnomefreaktrappist: i think he means the update-notifier03:59
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Cyorxamptrappist, all I have open is firefox, the xorg.conf text file (unedited), terminal and x-chat03:59
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trappistgnomefreak: will that interfere with apt-get?03:59
hamdanjbzz : done03:59
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Cyorxampi selected all those universe and multiverse things03:59
gnomefreaktrappist: it uses apt iirc04:00
hamdanDeviceURI smb://hamdan:xxxx@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer604:00
hamdanjbzz : done04:00
gnomefreaksynaptic,apt and updater all use apt04:00
Cyorxampok nm its working now04:00
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gnomefreakgrrrrrrrrrr i hate gmail04:00
Cyorxampsynaptic was loading - couldnt tell it was closed due to the awkward res04:00
Cyorxamp*loaded04:00
mwegnomefreak: I think you can use apt-get while the updater is in the tray though, if it's not currently updating04:00
jbzzhamdan:   OK     Now to save that hold the    Ctrl   key down and hit the letter    o       key   (the letter o as in oscar)04:01
Cyorxamptrappist, sez its got 13% of the thing04:01
newusergnomefreak: whats the problem with gmail?04:01
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trappistCyorxamp: cool04:01
gnomefreakmwe: yes if its not running04:01
tattersmwe ive copy n pasted the sources.list into the form do I put tatters as name and click send?04:01
hamdanjbzz : done04:01
gnomefreaknewuser: it wont get past the log-in screen :(04:01
mwetatters: yeah. then post the url here04:01
jbzzhamdan:     So you are back to the terminal window againa?04:02
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hamdanFile Name to Write: printers.conf04:02
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jbzzhamdan:      Choose yes.04:02
tattershttp://pastebin.com/51907004:02
jbzzhamdan:      Hit   Enter04:02
hamdanjbzz: hit enter now back to printers.conf04:03
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hamdanjbzz: adjustments made04:03
jbzzhamdan:     Super.   That saved time.04:03
gnomefreakfirefox is broken now :(04:03
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jbzzhamdan:     I guess it is time to try to print.04:03
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hamdanjbzz : should i exit nano?04:04
mwetatters: I'd put a # in front of the cd line. that disables it04:04
mwetatters: let me post and updated sources.list for you04:04
KylerI'm trying to help a couple install Ubuntu on a new machine.  Unfortunately that machine has NVidia hardware and requires "nvnet".  I can't install the NVidia driver (using Knoppix) because the installer removes the nvnet module when it's run.  Is there an Ubuntu package with nvnet.ko?04:04
jbzzhamdan:      Yes  exit nano.   I thought you had already .04:04
Cyorxamptrappist, what do I do after this? restart the kernel?04:04
bluesignanyone have any idea about "PCI: cannot allocate mem resource" warning?04:04
tattersk, so that stops it searching CD for packages?04:04
jbzzhamdan:     It did save the changes right?04:04
hamdanjbzz :ctrl x was it?04:04
trappistCyorxamp: 'sudo fglrxconfig'04:04
hamdanjbzz : yes it did04:05
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jbzzhamdan:     OK...   yes    Ctrl    then    x04:05
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fredrichwho do i contact if i want to contribute with a tested laptop to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer04:05
fredrich?04:05
mjbhi all04:05
Cyorxamptrappist, it's gone evil its asking about serial ports, ps/2 ports and stuff04:05
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mjbI'm having a problem with ubuntu 6.04, updated today04:05
jbzzhamdan:   I never used that editor before.  Crude but effective.04:05
mjbfor some reason I cannot start X as a normal user from the console anymore, it works fine when I start it as root though04:06
mwetatters: back up your current sources.list. then use this http://pastebin.com/519078. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade04:06
jbzzhamdan:     Now you should be back to the 'terminal' session window.04:06
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trappistCyorxamp: you can just take the default on almost all the questions it asks04:06
gnomefreakmjb: you do know that dapper is gonna have issues for a few more months right?04:06
sskkIsn't the apache2 server supposed to startup when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" - it's not (no errors). Only when I run "sudo apache2ctl start" apache2 will start. Cant find any obvious mistakes in /etc/init.d/apache2 . Any clue at all would be much appreciated.04:06
hamdanjbzz : yes sir04:06
trappistCyorxamp: just pay attention when it gets to the multiple display stuff04:06
trappistCyorxamp: to take the default just hit enter04:07
jbzzhamdan:   Try to print something and cross your fingers.04:07
mjbgnomefreak: no I didn't know that. so I guess there is no workaround as of now04:07
mjbat least I don't waste my time on it, thanks04:07
gnomefreak!dapper04:07
ubotudapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.04:07
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gnomefreakmjb: go with ubuntu5.10 it is stable04:08
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fredrichis there any swedish ubuntu chans?04:09
mjbgnomefreak: thanks but where would be the fun in that04:09
ccc_fredrich: #ubuntu.se04:09
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fredrichthanks matey04:09
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rseeberhello04:09
gnomefreakmjb: a broken system that is unusable is not my idea of fun04:09
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mjbit's perfectly usable expect for X as a user04:10
hamdanjbzz : printer idle04:10
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mjbthey hardly change anything at mutt, irssi, etc. so I don't have a real problem04:10
rseeberwhat are some ways to speed up my boot time for unbuntu04:10
jbzzhamdan:   As if nothing was sent to it>04:10
gnomefreakmjb: no its not :) give it time you will see04:10
tarheelcoxnubotu: mplayer04:10
ubotumplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=3106104:10
jbzzhamdan:   No blinking light?04:10
Cyorxamptrappist, I hate linux - this I knew... but that was just crap - whats next?04:10
tarheelcoxnubotu: thanks04:10
ubotutarheelcoxn: de nada04:10
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Seveasrseeber, get a faster system :)04:11
trappistCyorxamp: I dunno what the point of that was.04:11
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gnomefreakmjb: in testing stages they fix one thing and 2 get mesed up may not be what you use right now but it might04:11
rseeberyeah, windows used to boot in 20 seconds, linux takes a minute04:11
Cyorxamptrappist, no what do I do after that stage? after answering all of the questions I know barely anything about and have nothing to do with my display04:11
rseeberit's 2ghz04:11
trappistCyorxamp: I'm quickly losing my motivation here.04:12
Seveasrseeber, not that it's of any help for ou now, but kaybuk has done a lot to improve that for dapper and will do even more for dapper+104:12
mwerseeber: disable unnecesary stuff at bootup. windows in 20 secs. that must be a world record. mine takes 45 secs and another minute or so before the desktop is actually ready after login04:12
gnomefreakrseeber: i have a p2 450mhz and mine takes less than 1 min easy04:12
tattersmwe followed your instructions its downloading some new packages04:12
Seveas!tell Cyorxamp about attitude04:12
mjbgnomefreak: I do know that and I realize that I might get fucked sometime, but at least then I have something to work out. no further discussion necessary, don't waste your time on me ;)04:12
Cyorxampdoes anyone know how to restart the kenerl - i'm guessing thats the next step04:12
mjbthanks04:12
trappistrseeber: turning off services you don't need will improve startup times a lot.04:12
tattersI just accept them yes?04:12
mwetatters: how many?04:12
tatters1404:13
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rseeberok, where can i turn off the services? is there a gui, or a config file to edit?04:13
mwetatters: new ones or updated ones?04:13
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tattersThe following packages will be upgraded:04:13
tatters  eog evms evms-ncurses gthumb libevms-2.5 libpq4 libtotem-plparser0 pmount04:13
tatters  rhythmbox serpentine totem totem-gstreamer xchat xchat-common04:13
tatters14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.04:13
tattersNeed to get 5612kB of archives.04:13
mwetatters: all upgrades. just accept04:13
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trappisttatters: please don't paste here.04:13
hamdanjbzz : its printing04:13
tattersk04:13
gnomefreaktatters: please dont paste in here04:14
jbzzhamdan:     I'll be right over to watch.04:14
tatterssry didnt know I shouldnt04:14
gnomefreaktatters: that is why pastebin was made04:14
Xenguy!tell tatters about paste04:14
sskkrsseber: look at BUM (http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html)?04:14
gnomefreakXenguy: he used pastebin earlier he knows about it04:15
tattersgotcha now I know I wont do again, plz accept my apo0logies04:15
hamdanjbzz : its printing..but spewing one extra paper04:15
Xenguygnomefreak: ahh04:15
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hamdanjbzz : ill have some pizza waiting04:15
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virogenesiswhy do so many projects end up going from GPL to BSD?04:15
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gnomefreaktatters: we are just warning you alot of people dont have timed to get warned the 2nd time :)04:15
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tattersk,04:16
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jbzzhamdan:     Ha!   I saw something on the internet about spitting out an extra sheet of paper for every good one.  But I did not see a solution there.04:16
tattersthnx for warning04:16
guest_I apt-get installed something and now I cannot log in anymore with an account, how can I undo this? is it possible?04:16
Seveas!xhangs04:16
uboturumour has it, xhangs is login in text mode, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedir04:16
jbzzhamdan:   Maybe a refinement is needed to one of the settings for that printer.  At this point we are close.04:17
Seveas^-- guest_04:17
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jbzzhamdan:   If it kicks out an extra sheet maybe it is trying to print below the bottom margin.04:17
guest_you mean I login using xhangs instead of what I'd usually do?04:17
guest_Seveas?04:17
tattersk alls been updated now mwe04:17
Seveasguest_, no, someone f*ed up that factoid, hang on04:17
Seveas!no xhangs is <reply> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority04:18
ubotuSeveas: okay04:18
mwetatters: good. now install whatever you need04:18
Seveas!+xhangs04:18
ubotuIf the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority04:18
hamdanjbzz : let me ajust the res04:18
jbzzhamdan:     Good idea.04:19
newuserwhere can I make a "storage" folder so that it is not locked? I don't want a lot of clutter on my desktop.04:19
guest_Seveas: but removing .Xauthority and .ICEauthority does somehow need to be done?04:19
Seveasguest_, now the bot says something that actually makes sense :)04:19
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Seveasguest_, you can't even login in text mode?04:19
tattersk thnx, should I reinstall acidlab will  this have made a change?04:19
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guest_maybe let me try04:20
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guest_Seveas I get some message about "your system hasn't been on for 10 seconds..."04:20
Ngnewuser: Places->Home would be a good choice :)04:20
mweis there a command to purge config files for a package that has already been removed?04:20
Ngmwe: dpkg -P or apt-get --purge remove04:20
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Seveasguest_, in TEXT mode?!04:21
Ngmwe: or synaptic can show you a list of all of them in that state and you can easily mark them all for Complete Removabl04:21
Ng-b+a04:21
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pixelfairyin synaptic, whats the star in the selection mean?04:21
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newuserjust coppied a cd to here and it is locked. can't add/remove files from the folder.04:21
Sonderbladeanyone know if it is possible to transfer your ubuntu bugzilla account to the new malone thingy?04:21
Seveasnewuser, shmod -R u+w path/to/folder/04:22
guest_.Xauthority and .ICEauthority aren't in my home dir!04:22
SeveasSonderblade, that should have been done automatically04:22
mweNg: I already removed the package but didn't use --purge. it should work anyway?04:22
Seveasguest_, how do you know?04:22
gnomefreakSonderblade: you should beable to sign in using you bugzilla info04:22
Ngmwe: I think so, if not dpkg -P will04:22
mahognyam I right to believe that "add applications" can add programs from [Universe] ? because I think I have correctly added such a repository but when I search for "octave" which is clearly there (as seen on packages.ubuntu.com), I get "no results found"04:22
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gnomefreakview hidden files04:22
Sonderbladeyeah *should*... mutter04:23
Seveasmahogny, yes "Add applications" can use universe too04:23
mahognyhm. ok04:23
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SeveasSonderblade, go to #launchpad if it didn't happen04:23
X-rayWDI'm back guys...04:23
X-rayWDand the problem has NOT been solved...04:23
gnomefreakSonderblade: i dont know i have an account at launchpad before i did at bugzilla04:23
hamdanjbzz : its printin but still kickin out an extra paper..tried all the res but no luck04:24
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mweNg: dpkg -P worked. apt-get said already removed04:24
soundrayI have an SPSS file that I need to read in Ubuntu. I've installed GNU R and the r-cran-foreign package. I don't know enough R to import the file -- please help or suggest another way to make the SPSS file readable.04:24
jaakenHello04:24
gnomefreakhi04:24
X-rayWD"sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" worked but the "Fatal Error - No screen found" remains04:24
guest_Seveas I did ls -a ?04:24
guest_lost your pants?04:25
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Sonderbladegnomefreak, Seveas: Maybe it was transferred.. or maybe it created a new account for me04:25
plettsoundray: if you know SPSS already, there is PSPP which is aparently compatible. i've never used either though04:25
Seveasguest_, so you were able to login in text mode?04:25
jbzzhamdan:     We are closer.  We know we have the correct smb line to get from your Ubuntu to the XP system.   The driver or a setting is of interest.04:25
jaakengot a bit of a problem here: installed a new ubuntu system, but accidentally I removed my user from the sudoers list. Is there some default password for root?04:25
sskk"sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" has no effect at all - no printout and no server started. Only when I run "sudo apache2ctl start" apache2 will start. Cant find any obvious mistakes in /etc/init.d/apache2 . Any ideas why?04:25
guest_no I'm checking in the home dir from another account I had04:25
guest_Seveas04:25
jaakenI can't add a new user, nothing administrative at all anymore... :s04:25
X-rayWD"sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" worked but the "Fatal Error - No screen found" remains04:26
Seveasguest_, ah, other accounts can log in?04:26
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jbzzhamdan:   I am looking at that website again.  It is saying something about margins.04:26
guest_yes04:26
paulproteusjaaken: You should use init=/bin/sh to get an emergency root shell.04:26
guest_Seveas yes04:26
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soundrayplett, thanks for the hint -- I don't know SPSS, but I'll install pspp and see how far I get.04:26
jaakenpaulproteus: as a kernel parameter at bootup you mean?04:26
paulproteusjaaken: Do you know how to pass arguments to the kernel?04:26
Seveashmm, apart from the .{X,ICE}authority files I wouldn't know a cause...04:26
paulproteusRight, esactly jaaken.04:27
hamdanjbzz : margins .. interesting04:27
paulproteusOnce you pass that argument, you'll get a root shell.04:27
jaakenpaulproteus: I see what you mean, hadn't thought of that, thanks a bunch, ttyl perhaps04:27
guest_Seveas, the other account is called guest04:27
paulproteusYou should do this:04:27
paulproteusmount -o remount,rw /04:27
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paulproteusnano -w /etc/sudoers04:27
paulproteusFix sudoers, then:04:27
paulproteusmount -o remount,ro /04:27
paulproteussync04:27
shindoHas anybody here tried installing ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 4001?04:27
paulproteusThen ctrl-alt-del, jaaken, and all should be well.04:27
guest_Seveas?04:27
guest_:-(04:27
jaakenpaulproteus: great, thanks again :)04:27
tarheelcoxnI've got a prism 2.5 chipset built into this laptop. When it boots, ubuntu loads both the hostap and the orinoco modules. In order to get wireless working, I then have to modprobe -r all the modules and then re-insert the hostap ones04:27
sskkis there a way to update the /etc/init.d/apache2 script from a repository?04:27
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tarheelcoxnhow can I (safely) get rid of the orinoco modules?04:28
Seveassskk, for which purpose?04:28
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tarheelcoxnI'm running breezy04:28
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paulproteustarheelcoxn: You could simply move them from /lib/modules/ to somewhere else, like /root/ .04:28
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paulproteustarheelcoxn: That way, you'll have them somewhere if you need them later, and if you don't, they're out of the way04:29
sskkSeveas: I think something is wrong with mine, as it is not working at all. Google will not give me any examples...04:29
jbzzhamdan:     To me it is as if the print is trying to go just below the bottom margin.  Then it forces a form feed.  Then it get a non-forced form feed from the text.  Maybe.04:29
Seveassskk, did you edit it?04:29
Oetzihow can i add a new window manager to the gdm menu?04:29
sskkSeveas: Only when a minor bit, when I realised it didn't work, however I have been using "unofficial" repositories for installation04:30
mweOetzi: it should be added when you install it04:30
SeveasOetzi, the window managers ubuntu provides all "install" themselves into gdm04:30
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Seveassskk, I'd suggest you completely wipe and reinstall apache04:30
Oetzino wm2 or udwm haven't install themselve04:30
sskkSeveas: been there... should that also remove the /etc/init.d/apache2 file04:31
tarheelcoxnpaulproteus: thanks04:31
tarheelcoxnpaulproteus: I'll try that04:31
newuserSeveas: bash: shmod: command not found04:31
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SeveasOetzi, then you will need to manually create a .desktop file for them in /usr/share/xsessions04:31
Seveasnewuser, chmod04:31
OetziSeveas: thx04:31
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Seveassskk, if you apt-get remove --purge it: yes04:31
Oetzii didnt find the right directory04:32
sskkSeveas: thanks. Will give it another go then04:32
jbzzhamdan:   What is amazing is that this is not much simpler.  I would have thought that by now all of the drivers would have been 'well know' for each Laserjet printer.04:32
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chenfhello!04:33
prxqhi. How do I install acroread? I used the package from adobe but it crashes right after startup without any message04:34
AlexPwhere can I download the last red hat distribution?04:34
guest_Seveas, how come you're not in the list ?04:34
SeveasAlexP, ask in #redhat04:34
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Seveasthis channel is for Ubuntu support04:34
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AlexPok thanks04:34
hamdanjbzz : i guess this is not the case04:34
Seveasguest_, because I am not really here ;)04:34
guest_:S04:34
hamdanjbzz : i think i need to sort out the margins somehow04:34
newuserSeveas: thanks, that was it.04:34
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affe_I've got Kubuntu 5.10 running and I can't get PSI (jabber client) to make audio notifications04:35
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affe_(it worked in stock Debian Sarge)04:35
jaakenpaulproteus: thanks a lot, you saved the day :)04:35
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DPadclearHi. I'm installing Breezy to a new hard drive and I wanted to know if it is possible to sync (export and import) the packages installed from the old drive to the new one?04:36
jbzzhamdan:   Yes.  Can you tell if you are missing any lines at the bottoms of the pages?   Like maybe one line missing?04:36
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guest_Seveas could it be that the .{X,ICE}authority files are hidden to other users?04:36
SeveasDPadclear, you can simply copy over the old installation04:36
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Seveasguest_, ls -a should still show them04:36
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guest_Seveas so then they're really gone and there is no way of restoring the system04:38
DPadclearSeveas; no, I thought of that, but i'm updating a lot of how the filesystem is setup (I'm going to use LVM and I intend to stick in two drives in a RAID1 config).04:38
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mopatophey guys. I'm running a breezy server, and I'd like to set up a script to run whenever a usbdisk is plugged in - can anyone recommend the best way to do this?04:38
guest_mopatop ask Seveas, he is very knowledgable04:38
olicatcould someone take a look at this kvm switch please? i'm wondering if it would work with my setup (1 usb mouse + 1 usb keyboard between 2 pc's) http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002B3E5U/qid=1138030591/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-2606145-950286004:38
hamdanjbzz: looks ok..last lines are showing04:39
antisocial_boristhat reminds me, still need to move over to breezy04:39
ron_could someone recommend me a good software to burn cd images (iso,bin) to cds that works with ubuntu?04:39
jaakenI've gotta say, I'm extremely pleased with Ubuntu, I've set it up on 2 laptops recently, and also on mine now, haven't had too much problems, and it runs great04:39
mopatopguest_: it's an open question, if seveas wants to answer he's welcome to :)04:39
SeveasDPadclear, can you still boot the old system?04:39
jaakenonly problems I've encountered was after moving to a custom kernel04:39
jbzzhamdan:   I see that there are some settings that can be made in the 'Properties' of the printer but it does not look obvious if any contribute.04:39
Seveasmopatop, you'd have to dive into udev and pmount to hook up such a script04:40
ron_anyone? :D04:40
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DPadclearSeveas; Oh yeah, that's where i'm talking from.04:40
guest_Seveas are you still there?04:40
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guest_does anybody else know anything about text mode startups?04:40
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SeveasDPadclear, good: dpkg --get-selections > some_file04:40
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Seveasand in the new system: dpkg --set-selections < some file && apt-get -f install04:41
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eastgrouphow to switch between languges ?04:41
Bizzehhey, i have /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp/* but there is no build dir inside that04:41
guest_why are you invisible Seveas04:41
Bizzehwhat do i need to get it there?04:41
Seveaseastgroup, install one via system -> admin -> language selector and choose a language when logging in04:41
jbzzhamdan:   If you are not missing lines then it is form feeding at the correct place but then I think there is another form feed occurring to clear the following sheet.04:41
Seveasguest_, are you using xchat?04:41
guest_yes X-Chat04:41
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Seveasguest_, then look at the top of the list :)04:41
guest_oh heh04:42
mopatopSeveas: won't some hotplug configuration do the job?04:42
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jbzzhamdan:     The resolution in the 'Properties' of the printer appear to be set at 600 by default but can be set lower.04:42
Seveasmopatop, maybe, but hotplug is removed from dapper so it would stop working there04:42
eastgroupi mean the language i tybe i added it from keyboard option , but i don't know which hot key to switch to tybe04:42
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KSeanHey - I've installed aMSN with TCL/TK 8.5a3, but aMSN doesn't detect my truetype fonts :\ . Can anyone help?04:43
guest_I thought linux was supposed to be some ruling cool OS, I install one thing exactly as it is supposed to be done and I can't log in anymore as a certain user grrr04:43
eastgroupalso i add it on language seletor as like you said ..04:43
mopatopSeveas: okay thanks for the tip. I'll look at udev. my script needs to run as root so I don't think pmount needs examining - unless udev runs as !root04:43
hamdanjbzz : ive tried that..didnt work04:43
pixelfairyso why would a package (in this case kino) be held back? (after enabling backports)04:43
ron_Could anyone recommend me a good cd burning software that has also image burning capabilities?04:43
SirKillalot2how can I import .WAV files with audacity and get them cut after each other automaticly?04:43
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Mezhey Ryan04:44
Mezweird seeing you here04:44
ubuntugeekhey mez.. forums are backup04:44
jbzzhamdan:   Well we are so close.  I can not believe we are the only ones that ran into this.04:44
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hamdanwell...jbzz its printing..at least :)04:44
ubuntugeekwe had a hardware crash over the weekend..04:44
Mezubuntugeek, not something I wanted to know - I hate the things - lol - I darent go near the backports area04:44
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dwdrumshi! got a problem with kubuntu04:44
hamdanjbzz : thanks for all your help and patience04:44
ubuntugeekmez: heh :)04:44
MezRyan: The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.04:45
dwdrumsi cannot install vlc player!!04:45
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hamdanjbzz : thanx to everyone else too!! :)04:45
jbzzhamdan:   Yes that means we are talking to the correct machine.  Sure.   Hope you can remember what you did to get you this far.  See you.04:45
Seveasdwdrums, paste the errors you get on the pastebin04:45
ubuntugeekmez: yeah had to put a load limit on the software for the next few hours while the traffic evens out..04:45
dwdrumsok04:45
Bizzehafter i built a module for another kernel to the one im running now, how do i insert that module into that spesific kernel?04:45
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dwdrumsE: cannot find package vlc04:46
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dwdrumsi tried everything!04:46
hamdanjbzz : just trying to get used to the changes from win to ubuntu04:46
MezRyan: *shrugs* well - if you used IPB - you wouldnt need to do that04:46
ubuntugeekmez: :) true fact actually I've been looking for something else.. Only thing holding me back is mailing list integration..04:47
ccc_dwdrums: have you enabled the universe repository?04:47
Mezubuntugeek, didnt we talk about this before ??04:47
jbzzhamdan:   Same here.  I am just getting comfortable.  I actually like Ubuntu.  I will be staying with it.  I have tried others.04:47
dwdrumsyes, i think....04:47
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Mezubuntugeek, jump on AIM and we'll talk04:47
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dwdrumsor, how to do that?04:47
Alakazamim getting Makefile:166: *** Cannot find a kernel config file.  Stop.04:47
Alakazam"04:47
jaakendwdrums, edit /etc/apt/sources.list04:47
Alakazamhelp04:47
dwdrumsoh.. yes of course!!!04:47
dwdrumsi can install other programs!04:48
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dwdrumslike xchat04:48
Bizzehhow do i insmod a module into a kernel im not currently using?04:48
jaakendwdrums, what does apt-cache search vlc tells you?04:48
jaaken-s04:48
AlakazamBizzeh, rebuild the kernel04:48
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BizzehAlakazam, i have a smp build of rt2500.ko04:49
funkyHatHas anyone else had problems with gaim randomly segfaulting?04:49
eastgroupis there a hot key to change language ?04:49
eastgroupto tybe ?04:49
pixelfairyfunkyHat: gaims been totally solid for me since 1.504:49
ron_can anyone recommend me a cd burning software for ubuntu04:49
Kyralk3b04:49
dwdrumser.. nothing..04:49
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Bizzehused the smp headers from the smp kernel to build it.. i have no idea how to get the kernel to accept it04:49
pixelfairyon any version of linux ive tried04:49
pixelfairyron_: some of its built in to gnome04:49
ron_cdrecord?04:49
funkyHatpixelfairy, cool, I think it might be to do with very large contacts list on msn or my google talk (jabber) connection04:50
dwdrumsi've typed apt-cache search vlc04:50
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eastgroupif i need to tybe with other lang how i can do it ?04:50
pixelfairyron_: thats what i usually use04:50
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ron_pixelfairy, i need something that can burn images.. can it?04:50
funkyHateastgroup, you can set up a keyboard layout switcher on your panel04:50
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pixelfairyfunkyHat: i dont have msn, so it could be there, im also using googletalk jabber04:50
pixelfairyron_: what do you mean? photocd?04:50
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pixelfairyor just image files? or iso images?04:51
ron_pixelfairy, i mean. bins and isos04:51
pixelfairyyes04:51
funkyHateastgroup, right click on the top panel and click "+ add to panel" and add the keyboard indicator04:51
pixelfairyron_: mkisofs to make the iso, cdrecord to burn it04:51
jaakendwdrums, and?04:51
pixelfairyor just let gnome / kde etc handle all that04:51
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funkyHateastgroup, then you can right click and click move and put it where you want it to go04:51
ron_ok. this is all shell based right?04:52
ron_no gui?04:52
guillem101How can I know which model my network adapter is?04:52
jaakenguillem101, lspci04:52
dwdrumsi've typed apt-cache search vlc04:52
pixelfairyron_: yes, the man pages are pretty detailed so you might want to take notes of the options you want in another window while you read them04:52
olicatdoes anyone know if a kvm switch which has 2 usb inputs (1 keyboard + 1 mouse) and only one usb output for both, will work with ubuntu?04:52
dwdrumsand nothing happened..04:52
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jaakendwdrums, that means that you didn't enable the universe repository in sources.list afaik04:53
guillem101jaaken, lspci shows no relevant info for the adapter, I'm afraid of :_(04:53
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funkyHatdwdrums, have you added any extra repositories? I think vlc is in universe04:53
jaakenguillem101, lspci -v ?04:53
ron_alright. if i have questions io will be back,04:53
dwdrumsyes it is..04:53
ron_thanks, pixelfairy04:53
ron_:)04:53
pixelfairyk04:53
dwdrumswhat for extra repositories? for example?04:53
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dwdrumswhat do u mean?04:54
jaakendwdrums, have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list04:54
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funkyHat!tell dwdrums about repositories04:54
eastgroupfunkyHat , yes already add it there ..04:54
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eastgroupfunkyHat , how can switch between lang now ?04:55
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dwdrumsok..04:55
funkyHateastgroup, cool, now right click on it and click 'open keyboard preferences'04:55
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bluesignwhen I do lspci i get a memory region map, where this map comes from?04:55
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eastgroupfunkyHat , i could not found it ?04:56
eastgroupfunkyHat , where i can find it ?04:56
olicatdoes anyone know if a kvm switch which has 2 usb inputs (1 keyboard + 1 mouse) and only one usb output for both, will work with ubuntu?04:56
funkyHatwhen you right click on the keyboard indicator applet, it's there04:57
guillem101jaaken, nope. I only see my other network card there (I've two of them)04:57
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eastgroupi'm in keyboard preferances04:57
funkyHatahh ok04:57
funkyHateastgroup, and you want to set up a keyboard shortcut to switch?04:57
giorgosI have a partition with Windows, how can I locate them from Linux?04:57
iantecdoes synaptic have the flash plugins for firefox? and does it have fire fox 1.5? in its repository?04:57
eastgroupfunkyHat , in layout options you mean ?04:58
deFryskiantec, yes and no04:58
funkyHateastgroup, I'm just asking exactly what you are trying to do04:58
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giorgosin fact the windows partitions are two (C: and D: )04:58
ron_pixelfairy. is there a gui alternative to cdrecord. i am still quite new to ubuntu and i just need to burn something quickly04:58
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iantecic thanks04:59
pixelfairyron_ if you insert a blank cd, it should pop up a gui for you04:59
eastgroupfunkyHat , i want to tybe with other lang i add it on keyboard preferences , so what next to switch and tybe with it ?04:59
ron_k i will try04:59
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funkyHateastgroup, just click on the layout indicator (left-click) and the letters will change04:59
KylerA friend just did a "server" installation of Ubuntu.  Now I want to get all of the normal desktop packages.  Is there a single package to install with all of the dependencies?05:00
pixelfairyron_: most people dont use cdrecord/mkisofs anymore (except weirdos like me) i thought you were just curious about that05:00
giorgoshow can I locate a windows partition from Linix?05:00
dwdrumsall repositories are enabled!05:00
ron_ye well i need a quick fix to burn an iso05:00
ron_:-p05:00
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giorgoshow can I locate a windows partition from Linux?05:00
pixelfairyKyler: try ubuntu-desktop05:00
funkyHatron_, K3b05:01
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pixelfairyif not, kubuntu-desktop should work05:01
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mopatopron_: use gnomebaker or right-click the iso in the filemanager05:01
ron_k3b can burn images?05:01
deFryskron_, rightklick the iso in nautilus and select burn to disc05:01
Kylerpixelfairy:  I just got on the machine and saw that.  Will that give *everything* that the normal install does?  Thanks!05:01
guillem101the network interface seems to be using something like "forcedeth" driver. Any clue?05:01
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MrRiogiven that the human theme is so, erm, brown, then maybe ubuntu should include some more modern looking themes besides the default gnome ones05:01
ron_hrm.. will test brb05:01
pixelfairyKyler: dont know05:01
MrRiolike GlossyP, thats a nice one05:01
robotgeekMrRio: Preferences -> Themes05:01
FliesLikeALapwhen i install a package containing the kernel source from apt (linux-source-2.6.12) where dos it put the source?05:02
deFryskron_, and yes thats how easy it is in gnome05:02
pixelfairyMrRio: install art-manager05:02
MrRiorobotgeek: yeah, pop them in there05:02
MrRioi mean by default, it should have a few extra05:02
KylerAlso, these people used Knoppix to get their system booted and they liked KDE.  Is there a good way to have both Gnome and KDE installed so they can switch between them at the display manager?05:02
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giorgosAnyone???? how can I locate a windows partition from Linux?05:02
cemmeldoes anyone know how to make it so nautilus displays the location textbox instead of the location breadcrumb buttons by default?05:02
deFryskKyler, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop05:02
funkyHat!ntfs05:02
ubotuhmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK05:02
pixelfairygiorgos: its not already mounted?05:02
dwdrumsmount -ntfs /dev/..05:03
Kylergiorgos:  What do you mean by "locate"?05:03
eastgrouplayout indicator but i can't find it05:03
hmp_ntfs is evil05:03
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KylerdeFrysk: I'll try it.  Thank you.05:03
funkyHatgiorgos, look at what ubotu just said05:03
giorgosjust being able see the folders05:03
born_Ubuntugalera alguem sabe se o repositrio do UBUNTU est OK?05:03
pixelfairygiorgos: look in /media05:03
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deFryskKyler, in gdm you can switch beteween kde and gnome using "session"05:03
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KylerdeFrysk:  Good.  That's exactly  what I want.  Thank you.05:04
guest_Seveas, I logged in text mode and logged out again there was one file about the program I installed in my dir but not the 2 you mentioned05:04
Kylergiorgos: "mkdir /mnt/mymsdisk; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/mymsdisk"05:04
pixelfairywhats a simple way to edit kde/gnome menues?05:04
guest_Seveas but I suppose when you install something with apt-get you have to somehow properly uninstall it, right?05:04
AMDXPwow05:05
deFryskpixelfairy, in gnome rightclick applications in panel and select edit menus05:05
noaXesshi all..05:05
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guest_Seveas, why are you now not at the top of the list anymore05:05
eastgroupis there right and shift to change lang?05:05
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giorgosnothing in media....05:05
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pixelfairydeFrysk: thanks, ill go ask in kubuntu for the other05:05
noaXessi was here earlier.. have now found time to test install ubuntu.,my first view.. COOL.. really cool..05:05
giorgosKyler, when u say mydisk should I replace that with sth?05:06
ron_deFrysk, you said right click in nautilus on the file. i have the cue and bin file i want to burn on my desktop and when i right click on it, i don't see that option05:06
giorgosKyler, e.g. Win_C?05:06
noaXessmy laptop acer 2026 with thw wlan 2200bg card.,. works since the install processs. :)05:06
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eastgroupdose any one switch between 2 lang easy ?05:06
Kylergiorgos: It's whatever you want to call it in Linux.05:06
deFryskron_, not sure about cue and bin files, sorry05:06
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eastgroup??05:06
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iantecsudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run is this right?05:07
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ron_so what software can burn cue and bin files?05:07
giorgosKyler, root@elab5:/var/tmp# mkdir /mnt/Win_C; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/Win_C05:07
giorgosmount: you must specify the filesystem type05:07
deFryskron_, k3b is pretty versatile05:07
Kylergiorgos: Try "mount -t vfat ..."05:07
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ron_ok. i will install that05:08
ron_should i download the source or get a binary05:08
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giorgosKyler, root@elab5:/var/tmp# mkdir /mnt/Win_C; mount -t vfat/dev/hda1 /mnt/Win_C05:09
giorgosmkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/Win_C': File exists05:09
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Kylergiorgos: There's no need to run mkdir again.  Did the mount succeed?05:09
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guest_Seveas, are you awake?05:09
StuttergartHas anyone else noticed that the Xorg packages in Drake don't have support for LBX?05:10
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giorgosA new folder Win_C has breen created but nothing inside it05:10
giorgosKyler, A new folder Win_C has breen created but nothing inside it05:10
WarriorSlayerhy guys, i've installed kubuntu amd64 today and it stops when loading the hotplug system05:10
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jonohi all05:10
guest_anyone, the iptables _f/_x/etc. commands are they account-sensible?05:10
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jonois it a bad idea to remove ubuntu-desktop?05:10
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ron_http://k3b.plainblack.com/download which link should i download from?05:10
guest_the iptables -F/-X/etc. commands are they account-sensitive?05:11
v3l0ctjano: not really05:11
jonoremoving gs-esp tries to remove ubuntu-desktop05:11
Kylergiorgos:  Are you sure it's /dev/hda1 you want?  Try "fdisk -l /dev/hda" (or hd[bcd]  for a second disk).05:11
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deFryskron_, sudo apt-get install k3b05:11
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frogzooguest_, the kernel only sees packets, so is unaware of which user they belong to05:11
Kylergiorgos: You might also be able to mount the disk from your desktop.  I'm just giving low-level instructions.05:12
FliesLikeALapis anyone here familiar with the linux cisco vpn client?05:12
ron_deFrysk, ahh, i didn't know this distro came with it05:12
giorgosKyler, I don't even know what's a hdal just followed ur instructions (filesystem is ntfs if tha't what u mean)05:12
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deFryskron_, ubuntu has thousands of packages available ;005:12
enkravHello, Why on earth doesn't pressing on the eject-button of my dvd drive eject the DVD, while right-clicking on the icon -> eject does ?05:12
ron_brb05:12
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cemmelhow do i modify nautilus to display the location textbox by default?05:13
Ngenkrav: linux locks the drive while it has it mounted05:13
giorgosKyler, Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table05:13
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giorgosKyler, I can't do it from Desktop05:13
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guest_frogzoo, so then when you install KMyFirewall as one user they are installed for all?05:13
v3l0ctenkrav, if you install automatix it has a script to do just that.05:13
frogzooron ---> system -> admin -> add application & take a look around05:13
frogzooguest_, yup05:13
ron_ah kewl.. will do :)05:14
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Kylergiorgos:  Try "mount" to see what disks you're already using.05:14
robotgeekgrr05:14
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robotgeek!automatix05:14
ubotuautomatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!05:14
enkravv3l0ct, Ng, well this behaviour would fit well in the default install, I think05:14
Kylergiorgos:  You can also poke through the output of "dmesg" to find disks.05:14
robotgeekv3l0ct: please donot recommend automatix05:14
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guest_when I press Ctrl-Alt-F1 now I get a garbled screen, is there not some other way of switching to the text only mode?05:15
robotgeekguest_: ctrl + alt + f2?05:15
v3l0ctrobotgeek: I don't use it or recommend it, but I'll keep that in mind for future reference05:15
robotgeekv3l0ct: thank you05:16
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giorgosKyler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d752705:16
v3l0ctnp :)05:16
cybermikeMy girlsfriend runs ubuntu on her workstation, and i have to back it up now, isnt it enough for me to backup her homedir to get all her settings and documents out?05:16
giorgosKyler, that's the mount output05:16
enkravI think it should be a kernel option of auto-umount when pressing the eject button ...05:16
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Kylergiorgos: Try "fdisk -l /dev/sda".05:18
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kofjdebian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# ls -l Anfad.sys FAD.sys05:19
kofj-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20992 2005-12-16 10:00 Anfad.sys05:19
kofj-rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38528 2005-12-16 10:00 FAD.sys05:19
kofjdebian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# rm Anfad.sys FAD.sys05:19
kofjrm:  Anfad.sys: 05:19
kofjrm:  FAD.sys: 05:19
FliesLikeALapkofj don't paste here05:19
kofjdebian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# id05:19
kofjuid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)05:19
kofjdebian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# whoami05:19
kofjroot05:19
giorgosKyler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d752805:19
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FliesLikeALap!tell kofj about paste05:19
coolboyhi what's the path to my cd drive?05:19
kofjI'm sorry05:19
FliesLikeALapcoolboy,  once mounted it should be /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom05:19
coolboyk thx05:20
robotgeekkofj: please read /topic05:20
frogzoocoolboy, /dev/cdrom   :)05:20
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coolboyso for terminal it's /home/<username>/media/cdrom<0> ?????,05:20
coolboyow ok05:20
FliesLikeALapno frogzoo  that is incorrect05:20
Kylergiorgos: It looks like /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5 are your MS partitions.05:20
skonit's /media/cdrom05:20
FliesLikeALapno coolboy  just /media/cdrom05:20
skonor just /cdrom05:21
frogzooFliesLikeABrick, I have /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc05:21
coolboyk05:21
giorgosKyler, so what r we doing now?05:21
FliesLikeALapfrogzoo,  just becase you do doesn't mean everyone else does05:21
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FliesLikeALaper frogzoo  my apologies, something is weird on here05:21
frogzooFliesLikeABrick, /dev/cdrom is standard, I thought?05:21
FliesLikeALapyeah frogzoo my mistake05:21
frogzoocool - just was wondering if I'd put the link in meself05:22
FliesLikeALapfrogzoo,  that is still only the path to the device though, not the mount point05:22
frogzootrue true05:22
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frogzoonow the 27c question - does anyone know how to get gxine to read a raw DVD device ?05:24
thoffmeyeris there a way I can tell ubuntu not to load a specific module at bootup? say for intance, rt257005:24
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giorgosKyler, I try to open sda1 or 5 and I get permission denied05:24
johthoffmeyer: add it to /etc/modules05:24
skonthoffmeyer: go into /etc/init.d/05:24
Kylergiorgos: Do it as root.05:25
frogzoothoffmeyer, take a look for your module in /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy05:25
skonjoh: that's for adding it to the modules list....isn't it?05:25
giorgosKyler, That's what I am doing05:25
johskon: for loading at boottime05:25
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frogzooskon, should be able to pass rt2570=off I think....05:25
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Kylergiorgos: It would be very odd for root to get "permission denied".05:25
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lesshastewhere do apic bugs get reported to? lkml or somewhere specific like acpi?05:26
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skongiorgos: probably because you can't just open a device file like that05:26
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giorgosskon, and why is that?05:27
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skongiorgos: you have to mount devices into other locations05:27
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skongiorgos: into the media folder for example05:27
frogzoolesshaste, apic != acpi05:28
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lesshastefrogzoo, yes I know... I know where to report acpi bugs05:28
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lesshastefrogzoo, but not apic ones05:28
v3l0ctskon, not necessarily the folder could be anything it could be /mnt or anything else05:28
skonv3l0ct: I said for example, please read05:28
giorgosskon, how is that? (sorry but I am a nob)05:29
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skongiorgos: what device are you trying to look at?05:29
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giorgosskon, a windows partition in my HDD05:30
skon!tell giorgos about mount05:30
skon!tell giorgos about windowspartitions05:31
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skon!tell giorgos about windowsdrives05:31
skonthat should be good05:31
mrpinkhi everybody05:31
mrpinki tried to upgrade my system memory up to 1024 mb05:32
gonsoquick WPA connection question here.05:32
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gonsoi'm using the ipw2200 driver05:32
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mrpinkbut after that my pc stopped booting between starting x and kdm bootprompt05:32
gonsoand when i try running wpa_supplicant with that driver i get the message:05:32
mrpinkdoes anybody konw what to do05:33
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gonsoioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported05:33
mrpinkiam still making an memtest05:33
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gonsohas anyone has experience with this?  i believe the problem is with an incompatibility in the current driver code shipping with ubuntu, but i'm definitely not positive about this05:34
mrpinkbut it seems there are no problems with the ram05:34
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frogzoomrpink, boot in to memtest & run for 20 mins05:34
giorgosskon, THANKS!05:35
skongiorgos: welcome05:35
mrpinkfrogzoo: i did05:35
giorgosKyler, also THANKS05:35
mrpinkfrogzoo: memtest runs since about 90 mins05:35
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frogzoomrpink, can you boot into recovery mode? if so, it's an X problem05:36
mrpinki will have a try05:36
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giorgosskon,I was reading in that link that "The root account is disabled in Ubuntu for security reasons" so there's no root account in Ububtu?05:36
mrpinkcan interrupt memtest without any problems?05:36
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Bizzehi cannot get ubuntu to load under a smp kernel at all05:36
johgiorgos: use sudo05:36
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Bizzehalways dies at the sync clock with ntp.ubuntulinux.org05:37
skon!tell giorgos about sudo05:37
skonthere you go05:37
giorgosjoh, just asking about root account cos I find that a little bit weird05:37
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johgiorgos: read what skon told you05:38
katie_with vlc installed, i get no sound05:38
katie_ideas?05:38
katie_oh, nm05:38
katie_got it05:38
coolboyi have a second drive05:38
skongiorgos: generally, there is no use for root on a system that has sudo. it's more secure that way. sudo makes you root temporarily. read what ubotu sent you for more details05:39
cybermikegiorgos, just use: sudo passwd root, to set root password05:39
coolboywhat's that called05:39
cybermikegiorgos, or : sudo su - , to get a root shell05:39
coolboyi'm running mohaa setup in wine05:39
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frogzoocybermike, sudo -s is quicker05:39
giorgoscybermike, hm then why if a hit su I enter in root?05:39
coolboyany people have experience05:39
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giorgosMost weird is that I can change root password through User Accounts... (headbang!)05:40
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coolboyhow do I set cd drives to manual open05:40
skongiorgos: did you read the wiki article?05:40
Bizzehdoes anyone kno why ubuntu doesnt like smp kernels05:40
giorgosskon, yeap05:40
skoncoolboy: what do you mean "manual open"05:40
NgBizzeh: doesn't like them?05:41
skongiorgos: do you understand it05:41
coolboyskon: so i can press the cd drive open button05:41
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coolboyskon: I need to do it for wine05:41
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skoncoolboy: I think it's sudo apt-get install eject05:41
BizzehNg: amd64 k8 kernel works, amd64 generic works, amd64 smp k8 locks on boot05:41
skoncoolboy: actually, not sure if that'll do it....if you download Automatix, there is an option that installs that for you05:42
skon!tell coolboy about automatix05:42
skoner05:42
giorgosskon, I think so05:42
NgBizzeh: erk, that sounds like a bug - could you log it at launchpad.net please? (list the hardware you're running too if possible)05:42
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v3l0ctcoolboy: sudo eject cdrom (it's that where is mounted to)05:42
coolboythx05:42
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skonv3l0ct: ....how exactly does that do what he asked?05:43
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frogzoov3l0ct, just 'eject' should do it normally - but it's still not 'manual'05:44
v3l0ctahoora, i need to wear my glasses today05:44
v3l0ctsorry about that folks, need to put on my glasses05:45
skonnp05:45
skoncoolboy: just get automatix, forget what ubotu said about it lol05:45
BizzehNg: i dont have a login05:45
Bizzehcan i give you the info and you file the bug for me?05:45
frogzoov3l0ct, that's alright - we'll subtract it off the bill :)05:45
Toadstooljono: are you still worried about removing ubuntu-desktop ?05:45
frogzooso noone uses raw devices to play DVDs?05:46
v3l0ctfrogzoo, hehe05:46
NgBizzeh: it would be best if you create one and report it - the developers may well want to ask for more information05:46
skonwhat are DVDs?05:46
jonoToadstool, a little05:46
frogzooskon, shiny round things05:46
skonhmm never used em05:46
v3l0ctahoora, much better now05:46
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v3l0ctdamn nick autocomplete05:47
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ahoorav3l0ct?05:47
Toadstooljono: afaik ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package provided to perform smooth dist-upgrades and it seems that there's a new addon to update-manager that do it far better than with the meta-package trick05:47
v3l0ctit's the auto complete doing that, i turned it off sorry05:47
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skonjono, Toadstool: yes, ubuntu-desktop can be safely removed after everything is installed05:48
jonocheers05:48
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ahooralool between 650 people choosing me ... i hope it was a lottery ;(05:49
jonowill gs-afpl ever replace gs in ubuntu?05:49
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premhi all05:49
skonhi05:49
premanybody know how to enable MMX, mplayer says "MMX2 supported but disabled"05:49
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Ngprem: you'd need to recompile it. I doubt it'd be worth it though, on a decent cpu and with Xv mplayer typically uses almost no cpu anyway05:50
mwejono: It's not GNU so I don't know05:50
coolboyanyone know some good 3D games installable thru synaptic05:51
hmp_quake205:51
AMDXPcoolboy: i just want to install GO05:51
Toadstooltuxracer :)05:51
AMDXPdaikatana05:51
AMDXPj/k05:51
skonI second tuxracer05:51
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tristanmikeYay on th tuxracer05:52
tristanmike*the05:52
coolboyhmp: is quake 2 free05:52
trappistthe engine is free05:52
hmp_nope you need the data files05:52
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AMDXPMame roms05:52
hmp_or the demo05:52
frogzoocoolboy, hmp_ quake is free - the commercial wad's are not in the pkgs though05:53
hmp_like i said...05:53
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trappistgltron and armagedtron are nice too05:53
leitaoHello, when i trying to create ssh keys, with: ssh-keygen -t DSA, i got a message saying DSA does not exist. Does anyone know what is wrong?05:53
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trappistleitao: lowercase dsa05:53
Bizzehbug filed05:53
leitaotrappist : thx05:54
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planetcallchecking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables05:55
frogzooleitao, might need a crypto lib   libdsa or such like?05:55
osfameronw000t!  Skype sucks marginally less on Breezy than on Hoary05:55
mintanyone know of a good page for vmware tools on Ubuntu 5.1005:55
mintwiki?05:55
jendaI have some trouble with gmail & thunderbird - I received a few large email and I felt that I have no need to DL them, so I opened the web interface and deleted them - but when I try to retrieve the mail w/ thunderbird it says receiving message 1 of 6 (which means it still tries to get the ones I removed) and it seems to get stuck eventually, without getting any mail at all. Anyone have any tips as to what I could do?05:55
frogzoomint, why vmware, not qemu?05:55
coolboywhere can I find games that are not in applications-games?   installed thru synaptec05:55
planetcallI tried to reinstall C++,g++ but still getting same error05:56
minti have vmware installed now05:56
mintthats what my ubuntu machine is on05:56
BizzehNg: i just noticed nvidia offer chipset drivers for amd64 linux, ill try applying those and see if they fix anything05:56
coolboy?05:56
mintwhen i change resolution to anything but 1280x1024, i get lines on the screen05:56
frogzoocoolboy, there's a backport site for the jdoom engine - that runs hexen and a couple other games as well05:56
mweplanetcall: install "build-essential"05:56
trappistmint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare/InstallAsGuest05:56
luiteplanetcall: have you installed build-essential?05:56
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decafplanetcall: install build-essential05:56
planetcalllet me chk out buddy05:56
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planetcallno its not installed05:57
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planetcallshould i ?05:57
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luiteguess so :)05:57
planetcallok i am doing it right now05:58
coolboywhere can I find games that are not in applications-games?   installed thru synaptec05:58
Ngcoolboy: fire up synaptic and search for game05:58
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coolboyk05:59
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planetcalldecaf & luite: thanks buddy05:59
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planetcallmwe: u too :)05:59
coolboyNg: what do I do when I found game?06:00
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Ngcoolboy: right click on the packages you are interested in and choose the mark for install option, then when you are finished selecting them, hit Apply on the toolbar06:00
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tomys-cddhow do i clean the history in bash06:01
mweplanetcall: I was first :)06:01
coolboyNg: I know how to install06:01
planetcallyeah buddy thanks u all :)06:01
Ngcoolboy: then what did you mean?06:01
tomys-cddhow do i clean the history in bash06:02
coolboyNg: but some games don't appear in apps-games06:02
trappisttomys-cdd: rm ~/.bash_history06:02
coolboyNg: where are they to find06:02
trappisttomys-cdd: the history from the current session will persist, though06:02
Toadstooltrappist: tomys-cdd: history -c works too :)06:02
mwecoolboy: search for "game" maybe06:02
trappistToadstool: cool, never heard of that one06:02
coolboymwe: i'll try06:02
planetcallI need a good password manager which could work with firefox in similar way as airobform does on windows. I could not find any. Anyone knows about any such app?06:02
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Ngcoolboy: ah, they should, but maybe they don't have icons. you can right click on a package once its installed and get a list of files it owns, look for ones in /usr/bin/ - that is what you need to run from a terminal most likely06:02
coolboyNg: thx06:03
trappistwoah, `man history` is full of great stuff06:03
tomys-cdddoes it work as well in linux06:04
tomys-cddhistory -c06:04
tomys-cddor just in ubuntu06:04
Toadstoolit's a quite common command06:04
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yanishello06:04
yanishow is called the gtk wifi network management app?06:04
tomys-cddhello06:04
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yanisnot GTKwifi..06:05
frogzoogtkwifi-1.09.deb06:05
frogzoo - it's not in the repos06:05
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yanisnot that..06:06
yanisanother one06:06
trappistdude the history man page is gonna like triple my productivity06:06
yanismaybe it 's called network selectr..06:06
mintwhats the command to find out which kernel I have to match the Synaptics Linux-Header??06:06
mintit says uname-r06:06
mintnot working though06:06
trappistmint: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r)06:06
trappistmint: there's a space before the -06:06
loorniWhat's the problem when I can't use all of my keyboard buttons? For example: q, w, u, i...06:06
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fulldisclosurehi06:07
trappistloorni: laptop?  numlock?06:07
fulldisclosure18:01 < fulldisclosure> Converting files failed06:07
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Toadstoolloorni: unplugged keyboard ? :)06:07
fulldisclosure18:01 < fulldisclosure> Writing to disc didn't start so it is still usable.06:07
loorniToadstool, nope..06:07
fulldisclosureI get this error with serpentine when I click burn CD-audio06:07
hartsantlerhi, how do i make a screensaver for ubuntu, is there a xorg config file somewhere that controls the screensavers?06:07
loornitrappist, Didn't work..06:07
frogzootrappist, just make sure you notice where in the man page it mentions the up key06:08
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funkyHatToadstool, trappist, no, that would be u, i, o, p...06:08
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trappistah yeah06:08
coolboyNg: i see the list of files: but no files are actually there, some folders even don't exist06:08
loornitrappist, not a laptop06:08
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coolboyNg: could it be they are installed under root acc06:08
trappistloorni: possibly you're in vi mode, in command mode?  what happens if you hit shift-a ?06:09
Ngcoolboy: unlikely, was the package definitely installed?06:09
trappistloorni: or is this everywhere06:09
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loornitrappist, vi mode?! shift+a nothing.06:10
roboticis there any difference between a "server" (i.e. minimal) install of ubuntu and that of debian ?06:10
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loornitrappist, i'm in the login screen, graphical.06:11
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henkHi how do i stop the buttons on the panel showing the running programs from grouping together ?06:11
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lucasvois it a known bug that evolution displays colors from the calendars wrong in dapper?06:11
coolboyNg: yes it was06:12
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coolboyNg it said so06:12
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coolboyNg: It's very strange06:13
seashell11henk: kde or gnome?06:13
fulldisclosuresomeone here with gnome can try serpentine and look if he have same problem as me?06:13
fulldisclosureWriting to disc didn't start so it is still usable.06:14
henkseashell11, gnome06:14
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zebhey, can someone help me06:14
zebi really need some help06:14
deFrysk!someone06:15
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>06:15
frogzoozeb - just leap in - don't ask06:15
iantechmmm how come my gaim has no sounds? the sounds are enabled and it is not in mute06:15
fulldisclosurezeb: me too :-)06:15
Ngcoolboy: hmm, well "dpkg -L packagename" in a terminal (you may need to quit synaptic for that to work) should give you a list of files that are installed, so unless something went wrong and removed them that should be definitive06:15
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zebok06:15
zebi need to mount my second hard drive06:15
zebim new to ubuntu06:15
coolboyk06:15
fulldisclosureI have Ubuntu hoary 5.10 in PPC, Gnomebaker and Serpentine are unable to crreate audiodisk for me, both fail while converting files...06:15
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fulldisclosureis a known error?06:15
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frogzoozeb - first get the h/w config right - make sure you have the slave/master jumpers set properly06:16
zebyes, their set06:16
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zebi know from windows, i used it as my back-up drive06:16
zeball my files are on it06:16
seashell11henk: in kde you just right click the panel and hit configure panel, in gnome I think its fairly much the same, right click hit properties or configure panel or something and with kde you just chang the group similar tasks to never06:16
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frogzoozeb - k - I take it your primary drive is master on ide channel 1 - ie hda ?06:16
fulldisclosureuh...06:17
zebyes06:17
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seashell11I can't check with gnome cause im in kde right now :-(06:17
frogzoozeb - and the 2nd drive is on the same ide cable?06:17
Bone_Downhello all I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I have not heard. Anyone know what is the current situaiton with the ubuntu forums? and when they might be up and running again?06:17
zebyes06:17
zebsame cable06:17
coolboyNg: it gives the same list: but I can't find any of them, neither thru terminal06:17
englaBone_Down: they are up again06:17
englabut the servers are heavily loadexc06:17
hotczech/hello06:18
Bone_Downoh cool, I was bummed that I could not get to them all weekend while trying to trouble shoot some issues.06:18
deFrysk!glxgears06:18
ubotuI guess glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"06:18
Bone_Downthanks for the update06:18
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zebok06:18
hotczech/mode hello06:18
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fulldisclosurecan somebody take a look to serpentine?06:18
fulldisclosureplease06:18
zebi tried to set up a link with you frogzoo06:18
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henkseashell11, hmm i tried that, but in gnome there is not much to change for the panel (not the grouping stuff anyway)06:18
zebit said i wasnt registerd06:18
SmasSiveHi, I have some problems with the new Xorg in dapper, can anybody help me?06:18
Bone_Downanyone online here that has any experience with evolution and ldap?06:18
frogzoozeb - now pastebin the results of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb'06:18
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zebok06:19
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seashell11henk: just hang on a bit, ill go into gnome and see if I can figure it out, because I know I did it06:19
zebcommand not found06:19
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zebi must have typed it wrong06:20
frogzoozeb - do you want to keep the data on the drive? what do you plan to use the drive for?06:20
zebsorry, real noob here06:20
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zebYES06:20
zebits all my data06:20
zebi hate to loose it06:20
SmasSiveHi, I have some problems with the new Xorg in dapper, can anybody help me?06:20
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frogzoozeb & doze uses it as just one partition? how's it formatted, ntfs ?06:20
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zebyes06:21
zebits NTFS06:21
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frogzoozeb well now for the bad news - linux can't write to ntfs partitions - read only I'm afraid06:21
zebwell thats fine06:21
zebif i can get the data off06:21
zebi can reformat it06:21
frogzoo!tell zeb about ntfs06:21
zebi need  my data06:21
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frogzooubotu sent you instructions for setting up ntfs under linux06:22
ubotufrogzoo: Do they come in packets of five?06:22
i60hi, has anyone used the free VMWARE player on windows to run Ubuntu? does the free player time out? because i'm sure mine did but my firend says his is free forever ???06:22
zeb?06:22
zebthey did06:22
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fulldisclosureogra_ibook: I have an ibook too, with hoary, do you have 1 minute?06:23
frogzooi60, the free player is ....... free!06:23
seashell11ok, im back again under gnome henk06:23
trappistfree as in beer06:23
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zebok dudes06:24
zebwhat do i do06:24
frogzoo!ntfs06:24
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK06:24
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progrock!pastebin06:24
ubotuI guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org06:24
frogzoozeb read that link ^^^06:24
zebok06:24
progrockoh, haha.. the urls in the topic.. thats easier06:24
mrpinkmay anybody tell me if it is possible to interrupt memtest without any problems?06:24
i60frogzoo: Wow excellant, i reinstall when i next use XP is there a breezy version i can install here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware the one i had was the version before breezy06:24
madewokherdstopping memtest won't hurt anything06:25
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mrpinkmadewokherd: thx06:25
coolboyNg: i found them06:25
Yokaloshwhat does it mean when i get the error: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check06:25
seashell11henk: there should be a little dot or something right to the left of where your window list is, right click that and hit preferences then under the behavior tab change window grouping to never06:25
Yokaloshand what do i have to do to fix it?06:25
zebfrogzoo06:26
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seashell11henk: see if that does what you want it to06:26
zebopen a private chat with me06:26
zebim still confused dude06:26
decafmadewokherd: I've never waited till it finishes. does it really finish?06:26
frogzoosry zeb, fraid not06:26
zebcrap06:26
madewokherdit starts over when it finishes06:26
zebok06:26
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frogzoozeb did you read the link?06:27
zebit says i need to download the script06:27
zebwhat do i type this in06:27
zebterminal06:27
frogzoozeb - this link06:27
frogzoo!ntfs06:27
ubotuntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK06:27
mintanyone have a copy of vmware-tools.tar.gz ??06:27
shindoI can't seem to successfuly power off with Breezy, I get a [32814.631680]  Code: Bad EIP value06:27
fulldisclosurecan someone please try serpentine to burn a mp3 as a CD-Audio and look if have anyporoblem?06:27
minti cant find it anywhere online06:27
zebi know, im there06:27
shindoany hints?06:27
zebit says i need to download this script06:27
zebi dont know how06:27
shindothe pc is an AMD K-6-206:27
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_luckie_does anyoen know where i can find a repository that has freenx on it...i am using hoary, but i can upgrade if need be.06:28
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AMDXP_luckie_: let me check i was trying to install freenx myself06:29
zebdangit dudes, im so confused right now06:29
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AMDXPhave you used freenx before06:29
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_luckie_yeah06:29
progrockI'm trying to install ipw2200 drivers... but when I go to "make"... I get a bunch of errors (that appear to be in the linux headers)... so i'm guessing i did somethign wrong... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/753206:29
frogzoozeb, oh, there's a script  - should make it easy - just do what it says, line by line - start with 'cd06:29
frogzoo; wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter'06:29
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coolboyhow do I play dvd's06:29
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frogzoocoolboy, gxine is good...06:29
seashell11henk: did that work?06:30
frogzoo!tell coolboy about restricted06:30
_luckie_AMD_XP i had it install on another box..i used a guide that was on ubuntuforoms, which is down it looks like06:30
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coolboyfrogzoo: do I have to download driver?06:30
tatterswhats a red box white X Top right hand of a file mean?06:30
AMDXPi use VLC media player06:30
zebhow do i use wget06:30
frogzoocoolboy, install the mp3 codecs ^^^06:30
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AMDXP_luckie_: yeah that is where i got the repo info06:30
coolboyfrogzoo: i've done that06:30
frogzoocoolboy, sry, u need the libdecss or whatever06:30
mintdo I want the TGZ or RPM for my ubuntu 5.10 VMWare Tools?06:31
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frogzoocoolboy, in the pm ubotu sent you, there should be a mention of dvds06:31
Dr_Willisi'd guess tgz mint06:31
frogzoozeb how you getting along there?06:32
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henkseashell11, ah at first i did not find what you meant.. but yes that worked ... nice thnx06:32
zebumm06:32
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zebi got the script downloaded06:32
zeblol06:32
zebi feel like such a noob06:32
frogzoozeb well that's progress :)06:32
zebim a windows expert06:32
decafadd this for vlc with gtk2 on breezy: deb http://dot.name.tr/ubuntu-decaf/ debs/     UNOFFICIAL and experimental06:32
zebso i wanted something different06:32
AMDXP_luckie_: i dont have it on this laptop the repo info is on my home pc06:32
_luckie_AMDXP thanks for looking06:32
frogzoozeb - now, like it says in the doc 'sudo bash diskmounter06:33
frogzoo'06:33
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frogzoo& just answer the questions06:33
zebok, it says all partitions are mounted06:33
zebnow how do i get to them06:33
zebW00T06:33
zebI SEE THEM06:34
frogzooplaces -> media -> .... (hdb ?)06:34
zebON MY FRIGGIN DESKTOP06:34
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zebW00t W00t06:34
AMDXP_luckie_: i will try to ssh into my box at home and get it hold06:34
frogzoozeb - what the script did was make some changes to the file /etc/fstab - might be worth a look to see what the script did06:34
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_luckie_k06:34
_luckie_AMDXP: thanks06:34
zebok06:34
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RemillardHow do you force a particular driver during boot?06:35
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frogzooRemillard, settings go in -> /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy06:35
Edi_icrhello06:35
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Remillardfrogzoo: gracias... I think my non-working ethernet is due to the wrong driver being detected... (though inserting the recemmended one hasn't worked yet either)06:36
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frogzooRemillard, check /var/log/messages for the driver load - that's where errors will appear06:37
ilba7ri am gona do a presentation on a datashow (projector) from my linux box. Do i need to install a program or make a configuration to direct the presentation to the data show or would it be done automatically06:37
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Edi_icrwhy ubuntu 5.10 did not ask about administrator user or password at anytime?06:38
frogzooilba7r, from a laptop I assume?06:38
AMDXP_luckie_: no go it wont show me what i need06:38
Remillardfrogzoo: well the skge driver loads fine, it just doesn't work... got this blasted Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet chip on my ASUS board...06:38
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ilba7rfrogzoo, exactly06:38
noaXesswhat to use under ubuntu to run a windows application? .exe? is there a tool in the available package?06:38
Remillardfrogzoo: skge WORKS in gentoo, for some reason... doesn't in ubuntu...06:38
RemillardnoaXess: wine typically06:39
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noaXessbut wine is not in the default packagelist.. or is it?06:39
mweEdi_icr: because it uses sudo instead of root. it's perfectly safe06:39
frogzooRemillard, check irq settings etc from lspci - might need to be passed to driver06:39
noaXessdoesnt found it..06:39
frazmanwult for playing a DVD?06:39
frogzooilba7r, you'll need to set it up - this isn't for an ati card is it?06:39
mwenoaXess: wine will run _some_ .exe06:40
Remillardfrogzoo: thanks, I'll check that too.. I don't think sk98lin asked for that but I might need to double check06:40
frazmanwhow do I make Mplayer default for playing a DVD?06:40
noaXessmwe: yeah i know..06:40
ilba7rfrogzoo, i do not use the 3d bin driver fglrx. am using the default one. and yes the card is ati06:40
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noaXessi'm new in ubuntu.. is there a wine package for ubuntu or just install from source?06:40
mwenoaXess: that's the only option you have unless you wanna pay money or compile yourself06:40
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noaXessoke. .)06:41
noaXessnothing pay :)06:41
ilba7rfrogzoo, lol seems i will do a presentation and try to promopte linux from a window box if i failed to set it up06:41
mwenoaXess: you'll have to find alternatives for a lot of programs if you intend running linux06:41
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Edi_icrmwe: but how i can log in as admin and chance my networking cababilities?06:42
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frogzooilba7r, then you're in luck - if you don't mind using the fglrx driver it's easy - there's a tool that does this06:42
zebok, printer problems06:42
mweEdi_icr: you can't06:42
zebmy printer prints, but its all white06:42
frogzooilba7r, gimme a sec while I track it down06:42
mweEdi_icr: sudo -i will give you a root prompt after you logged in as your normal user06:42
ilba7rfrogzoo, i installed the fglrx bin driver and i know it is bugy so i removed it06:42
ilba7rfrogzoo, ok thanx06:42
TheCutanyone using rhythmbox to stream music?06:42
mweEdi_icr: however just type sudo whatever to run whatever as root06:42
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noaXessmwe: i just start with ubuntu.. and i'm really happy..06:43
noaXess:)06:43
Edi_icrmwe: ok06:43
RemillardnoaXess: fortunately there are a LOT of alternatives (except maybe financial)06:43
noaXessmy wlan intel 2200 54mbps card runs without problems..06:43
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mwe!tell Edi_icr about rootsudo06:43
Edi_icrmwe: trying to get into wlan whit it06:43
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mweEdi_icr: get into wlan?06:43
noaXessRemillard: and allternatives for wine.. with ubuntu support?.. i'm ubuntu package?06:43
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Edi_icrmwe:jep06:43
zebits a PSC 1210, and it atcs like its printing06:44
mweEdi_icr: what does that mean?06:44
frazmanwhow do I make Mplayer default for playing a DVD?? anyone please?06:44
zebbut all pages come out blank06:44
Yokaloshhey guys how can i get the 'X11R4 or up headers and libraries' ?06:44
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zebis this a driver problem, or what06:44
RemillardnoaXess: well if you want to run Windows, there's basically wine... you can pay for codeweavers wine, or cedega06:44
Edi_icrmwe: it regonize my wlan-card but i cant enable it06:44
mweYokalosh: X11R4 ?06:44
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Yokaloshmwe: or whatever is newer, i was trying to compile something06:45
zebplz some assistance06:45
zebi know its prolly a newb question, but i really need help06:45
noaXesswhere is the default donwload page of wine? searching and found only a version of 20030709.. ?06:46
ilba7r!question06:46
ubotuilba7r: I give up, what is it?06:46
ilba7rzeb just ask your question if someone know it he will answer06:46
mweYokalosh: try x11-dev and x-dev06:46
zebok06:46
Yokaloshmwe: will do, sheers06:46
Yokalosh*cheers06:46
frogzooilba7r, fireglcontrol - check it out - very straightforward06:46
zebmy printer acts like its printing but all pages come out blank06:46
mweYokalosh: if you're looking for a specific header apt-file search will help. you may have to install it though06:46
progrockforusm are back.. ffinally06:47
ilba7rfrogzoo thanks i think i had it installed :)06:47
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frogzooilba7r, think it only works with the fglrx drivers though...06:47
mweprogrock: hopefully they'll stay up this time06:47
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progrockmwe: haha... and amybe I'll get straight As this semester06:47
ilba7rfrogzoo will do the math google and man thanks again06:47
zebill stay on the line until someone can help, k06:47
zebim here06:48
ilba7rzeb one way is to check if you have the right driver for it06:48
mweprogrock: yeah. I'm planning to ...06:48
zebhow do i check that06:48
ilba7rzeb check linuxprinting.org or the ubuntu forums06:48
ilba7r!printing06:48
ubotuprinting is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org06:48
ilba7ror ubotu link06:48
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zebyeah, i have the right driver06:50
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zebaccording to that link06:50
zeband it acts like its printing06:50
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zebjust all pages are blank06:50
Yokaloshmwe: x11-dev didn't do anything and apt-file didn't turn anything up but i got x-dev06:50
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mvdkHi, I'm having a problem booting off a usb hard drive06:51
ilba7rzeb using the gnome menu try to print a test page06:51
Yokaloshmwe: how would i get the xtest libraries too?06:51
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zebok06:51
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ccc_i'm using a radeon 9600 pro with fglrx, should (or could, even) i add renderaccel true to my xorg.conf to utilize the video card further?06:51
marcus^hi. does anyone know why i only can listen at mp3s for 3 seconds before XMMS jumps to the next song?06:52
mvdkWhat happens is, it gives me a shell in the initramfs due to it not being able to mount the root device06:52
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mvdkI can look for the device here, and it doesn't work at all06:52
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mvdkBut if I unplug it, and plug it back in, it works06:52
AMDXPmarcus^: i never had that happen before06:52
zebsorry guys, still blank06:52
mvdkthen I just say "exec init root=/dev/sda1 ro", and everything works06:53
marcus^AMDXP: it happened with me on two computers.06:53
ilba7rzeb where di you get the driver for your printer06:53
marcus^does it have anything to say that the mp3s is copied from a cd?06:53
mvdkMy question is, is it possible to reset the device through sysfs or something?06:53
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ilba7rzeb if i were you i would reinstall the driver file06:53
zebumm, it was on ubuntu i think06:53
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zebwhere can i get a driver for it06:53
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zebi know the CD i have wont work as its for windows and apple06:54
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ilba7rzeb before that try shutting down the printer and starting it again06:54
ilba7rthan try to print a test page06:54
zebok06:54
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ilba7rzeb and the drivers are in linuxprinting.org06:54
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ilba7rzeb and before that just check the ubuntu howto that ubotu directed you to06:54
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mvdkIs anyone hearing me?06:55
zebi turned it off and back on06:55
ilba7rzeb i am afraid i got to go so good luck06:55
zebok, thx dude06:55
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ilba7r!tell zeb about printing06:55
zebl8er06:55
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ilba7rzeb follow the ubuntu howto will help you set it up06:55
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stephan__hi06:56
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doogluswhich package provides a listening VNC viewer, so that remote VNC servers can send me their display?06:56
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stephan__i have a strange problem with drag and drop... as soon as i do this with files in xfe, nautilus, konqueror... the system freezes... sound still plays but no reaction to keyboard, mouse etc06:57
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emmeattehi06:58
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folkiCan anybody give me advice please...What codecs (or libraries) I need to install if I want to play video (.avi) but I can only listen music but I can not see that?06:59
zebwhats the wget command for wine06:59
tidalwav1Hi, all...can anyone give me any clue about how to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller?06:59
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tidalwav1The installation always fails because the installer can't mount the CD drives.06:59
stephan__any ideas anyone? i already checked all relevent log files...06:59
C-O-L-Tif I have kubuntu but I have installed gnome can I delete kde?07:00
tidalwav1colt: go for it :P07:00
Dr_WillisC-O-L-T,  i wouldent bother.07:00
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tidalwav1anyone? installer unable to mount CD drives?07:00
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C-O-L-TDr_Willis: ok than07:01
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nubuntucan onyone please explain to me how to get this patch to work: http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/Darwine:build      ?07:01
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C-O-L-TDr_Willis: both are working fine now07:01
yanishello07:01
frazmanwCan anyone suggest a linux printer (that I can setup using network Ethernet cable) that will work well in Ubuntu? I want good color printing including basic photos07:01
yanisis there any tool in gnome to check the battery state?07:01
Dr_WillisC-O-L-T,  i mix and match kde and gnome apps for diffent tasks. both have some very good tools07:01
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mvdkFrom what I understand, frazmanw, any number of HPs work well.  Check linuxprinting.org07:01
tristanmikefrazmanw, my HP Deskjet 3650 works just peachy07:01
Dr_Willisfrazmanw,  your 'budget' will also be a limiting factor07:02
C-O-L-TDr_Willis: I like the gnome style, but I like a lot KDE programs07:02
emmeattehi i have a problem with install hydrogen help me...07:02
emmeatteitalian?07:02
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tristanmikeyanis, as in for a portable? Right click any panel, add to panel, select Battery Charge Monitor07:02
frazmanwI ask about the printer here, because my brother multi-function mfc-3820cn will not opperate no matter what I try!07:02
mvdkMany multifunctions won't...07:03
yanisthanks tristanmike07:03
mvdkThis MFC-3820cn, have you looked for it on linuxprinting.org?07:03
Dr_Willismy HP1200c scanner/printer works good. :P but its a cheap peice of $@#*$%07:03
mvdkFor Brothers in general, you're up the creek without a paddle, as far as I understand...07:04
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tristanmikefrazmanw, you probably want to stay away from Lexmark's too07:05
tristanmikedang!07:05
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Seveastristanmike, type faster ;)07:06
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tristanmikelol, and I took typing in school and everything07:06
mlehreris it possible to use emacs key bindings in entry fields in all ubuntu/gnome apps?07:06
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cemmeldoes anyone know of a program that provides extra window management functionality (e.g., the ability to tile, cascade, and center open windows)?07:07
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glaciouswhat is a good way to manage your wireless connection(s) in gnome?07:08
mlehrerglacious: ubuntu includes a utility for wireless doesn't it?07:08
glaciouswe have a large ESS here, with many AP's with the same SSID, different channels.07:08
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glaciousi want a utility like with XP that will pick the strongest AP of that SSID and connect07:08
glaciousmlehrer: yeah, but it's pretty primative07:09
glaciousjust lists every AP that it finds07:09
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glaciouseven if there are like 5 AP's with the same name, just on different channels.  it won't just pick the strongest one to show.  nor does it show signal strength at all07:09
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mlehreri see.  you would think that at least adding signal strength to the list would be easy enough07:10
glaciousmlehrer: *nod*07:10
noaXesssorr.. dummy ubuntu question.. how install rpm package? first install rpm or is there an other solution with synaptic?07:10
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trappistnoaXess: the short answer is that you don't install rpms07:11
trappistyou install .debs07:11
frazmanwIs there any way to print from Linux to A windows computer using samba? but use the WINDOWS side driver? as my printer is not supported in linux??07:11
topyliglacious: networkmanager should do it on dapper07:11
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noaXesstrappist: aha.. ok :)07:11
noaXesstrappist: or sources.. hm..07:11
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noaXessi try to install vmware workstation..07:11
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topyliglacious: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/07:12
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mlehrernoaXess: there was a utility called "alien" that could do that for debian07:12
trappistubuntu has alien07:12
LxSedanhey guys i'm trying to install ubuntu but it goes to a screen where the colours start fading and just hangs there07:12
decafLxSedan: is it a laptop?07:13
noaXessmlehrer: you mean install rpm's or install vmware workstation07:13
mlehrernoaXess: alien allows you to install rpms07:13
LxSedandecaf, yes it is07:13
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planetcallalien converts rpm to debs07:13
topyliwith varying success07:13
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mlehrerfrazmanw: that might be tricky - if there isn't a linux driver then how could linux print to it?  can you pick a similar printer?07:14
decafLxSedan: there are boot parameters about framebuffer or specific laptops07:14
LxSedanhmmmm07:14
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LxSedantotally new to linux, first time install, would you be able to point me in the right direction07:14
mvdkUhm, has anyone given any further thought to my earlier question?07:15
frazmanwmlehrer, I have looked for similar printers however thisa is a network model, and the others are not. When I chose a similar printer, the screen on the printer says receiving data, then goes blank. but no printing happens07:15
harishi07:15
harisnoobs07:15
haris:)07:15
harislinux sux :[07:15
mvdkfrazmanw: Is this the Brother you're talking about, frazman?07:15
frazmanwmvdk, yes07:15
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hariswhen i install this windows my computer brokes07:16
frazmanwbrother mfc-3820cn07:16
haris:(((((((((((((((((((((07:16
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mvdkharis: Do try to keep your comments to things we can do somethign about07:16
topyliharis: please just ask a question07:16
mvdks/somethign/something/gc07:16
tristanmikeharis, try to install Linux or more appropriately, install Ubuntu07:16
mvdkAnd of course, you won't get anywhere quickly calling us all noobs :)07:17
mvdkfrazman: just looking for that on linuxprinting.org07:17
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LxSedananyone point me to info about the framebuffer to get it irhgt for a laptop to work for install07:17
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folki Can anybody give me advice please...What codecs (or libraries) I need to install if I want to play video (.avi) but I can only listen music but I can not see that?07:17
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tristanmike!tell folki about w32codecs07:18
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topylifolki: w32codecs07:18
topyli!w32codecs07:18
ubotuw32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install07:18
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noaXessmlehrer: aha.. ok.. hm.. just search vmware as deb package.07:18
mlehrernoaXess: that is even better07:18
folkiI have installed w32codecs...majority of videos I can play but I have one film, which I can not07:19
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tristanmikefolki, you may be out of luck, have you tried vlc?07:19
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noaXessmlehrer: or install it from source.. i think thi will be the way07:19
topylifolki: yes, there are such formats07:19
mvdkfrazman: I think you're out of luck07:20
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mlehrerfolki: what stderr messages do you get?  it should say what kind of media it is07:20
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mlehrerthen try to work on a google search to see if anyone has made it work07:21
[dEvIL-bOY] anyone uses lineakd?07:21
folkiI said that it is .avi07:21
mvdkI just did, mlehrer07:21
metalsandCan someone please give me a good sources.list, my repositries are all messed up and I keep getting errors when I reload07:21
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mvdkNo proof positive, either way07:21
[dEvIL-bOY] ?? lineakd07:21
mlehrerfolki: .avi is just a container format - what codecs is it using?07:21
tristanmikefolki, yeah, but the .avi was made with a particular codec, and it's that codec you're shooting for07:21
[dEvIL-bOY] !lineakd07:21
ubotu[dEvIL-bOY] : My cat's name is Mittens!07:21
Dr_Willisok - given that you have 2 'ubuntu' systems , i install a lot of packages on system 1, now i want to easially make system 2 also have the identical packages installed..    im sure theres some tool/way to make this easier...07:21
J-_can anyone help me install java runtime, pm me possibly.. having a a hard time... =(07:21
mvdkTry it with the other brother stuff, if it doesn't work, well, you may need reverse engineering skills07:21
mlehrerfolki: you will want the stderr output, it should complain about unsupported video format07:21
metalsandCan someone please give me a good sources.list, my repositries are all messed up and I keep getting errors when I reload07:22
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Dr_Williscopied over the /var/apt/cache dir then did a dpkg -i * in it.. on system 2 . but thats not very 'nice' :P and a little flakey07:22
tristanmikeJ-_, what's the trouble?07:22
tristanmikemetalsand, check out the sources.list generator07:22
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metalsandtristanmike: Where can I find that?07:22
tristanmike!tell metalsand about sources.list07:22
mvdkI don't suppose anyone has given my earlier question any thought?07:22
martin__im having probs with myth tv when i go to change the password it errors the install errered half way through is there anyway i can compleatly remove it from the system i have tried apt-get remove but it doesent compleatly remove it07:22
tristanmikemetalsand, ubotu just told you07:22
mvdkAny other fora I should seek?07:23
coolboyhow can I set IP printer in ubuntu 5.1007:23
topylimetalsand: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/604707:23
mvdkcoolboy: what kind of network printer07:23
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mvdkYou'll need to be more specific07:23
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coolboymvdk: it's a usb printer07:23
Dr_Williscoolboy,   i was able to do it witht he gnome printer config tool. I think i had to select 'hpdirect' or somthing like that.07:23
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[dEvIL-bOY] topyli, you are syaing if i copy that onto the source list file it will be ok?07:23
mvdkOh, is this an HP printer?07:24
folkiI use vcl and now it is OK...thank u all for your help07:24
Dr_Williscoolboy, i did mine for a HP networked pronter.07:24
mvdkNot a network printer, then, coolboy?07:24
[dEvIL-bOY] topyli, yes no maybe?07:24
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : yes. btw, your nick sucks because it starts with an [07:24
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coolboymvdk: nope but it's connected to wireless with an apple07:24
[dEvIL-bOY] ok cheers for the complement07:24
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : it's inconvenient to type07:25
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mvdkOh, is that 802.11 or bluetooth or something else?07:25
martin__im having probs with myth tv when i go to change the password it errors the install errered half way through is there anyway i can compleatly remove it from the system i have tried apt-get remove but it doesent compleatly remove it07:25
[dEvIL-bOY] ok07:25
glaciousok back.07:25
glacioustopyli:  it wants to install bind9?  won't this mess with my school's network?07:26
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metalsandE: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)07:26
metalsandE: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?07:26
metalsandWhy am I getting those errors when I apt-get update07:26
tristanmikemetalsand, close synaptic07:27
[dEvIL-bOY] cool it worked07:27
[dEvIL-bOY] now07:27
[dEvIL-bOY] next question07:27
Dr_Willisanother process is using it07:27
J-_i've tried installing java runtime, i change directory, use sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, and it says Reading package lists... Done07:27
J-_Building dependency tree... Done07:27
J-_Package sun-j2re1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.07:27
J-_This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or07:27
J-_is only available from another source07:27
J-_E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate07:27
J-_...?07:27
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[dEvIL-bOY] how the hell do i network to ubunut systems?07:27
Dr_Willis!java07:27
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs07:27
glaciouswhy would a wireless network manager want to install bind 9?07:27
topyliglacious: i have no idea. i guess it won't if your school's network is setup even adequately07:27
decafmetalsand: synaptic is open, or another apt-get running07:27
[dEvIL-bOY] !network07:27
ubotuThis refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.07:27
metalsandtristanmike: You're a lifesaver, I read that but didn't even realize I hd it open -.-07:27
Dr_Willis[dEvIL-bOY] ,  define what you mean by 'network'07:27
Dr_Willis[dEvIL-bOY] ,  if they can ping each other they are networked. :P07:27
tristanmikemetalsand, you have no idea how many people, myself included, get that error :)07:27
[dEvIL-bOY] i mean connect them to a router or hub( router in this case)07:28
[dEvIL-bOY] and share files and folders07:28
tristanmikemetalsand, without realizing it that it07:28
[dEvIL-bOY] i have no problems networking with windows machines07:28
Dr_Willisfile shareing - is done with samba - to work with window machines.07:28
J-_i've been at the java wiki since last night, still can't get it running07:28
[dEvIL-bOY] but no luck with other linux systems07:28
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : are there windows boxen in the network?07:28
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Dr_Willisor use ssh and the 'winscp' program.  if you want a little more security07:28
metalsandI'm trying to find a package 855resolution, to fix my resolution and with my old sources.list I was unable to find it.07:28
[dEvIL-bOY] well there are now07:28
metalsandHopefully after this update it'll be somewhere :x07:28
coolboyhow do i print test page07:29
[dEvIL-bOY] but when i have the 2 linux systems no07:29
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topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : then you share files and printers with samba07:29
[dEvIL-bOY] ermmm07:29
Dr_Willisbe sure to give your linux users, samba passwords with 'smbpasswd -a username' :P07:29
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : when you're all linux you might as well use nfs, but samba will work just as well07:29
[dEvIL-bOY] i can't tho07:29
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[dEvIL-bOY] do i need to create a user for networking?07:30
Dr_WillisIll confess - i also tend to use samba for linux->linux stuff.. gnome and kde both make it easy to track down samba shares.07:30
[dEvIL-bOY] coz i done that and still no luck07:30
metalsandWhen I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users.07:30
Dr_Willisif you want to access the users home dirs. you need to make a sambapassed for the users.. or make some custome samba shares.07:30
TerminusNFS gave me a 3x increase in throughput over SMB. just thought i'd mention that. :)07:30
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : you don't create extra users07:30
Dr_WillisTerminus,  :P07:31
[dEvIL-bOY] how does it work then ?07:31
Dempahey, i have a question. Just gave my fiance a ubuntu livecd since her win install broke, but the wireless connection doesn't work from scratch. Any chance there's an way to fix this without installing ubuntu?07:31
metalsandWhen I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users. Like closing nickserv's window.07:31
progrockDo you guys recommend upgarding to firefox 1.5... or think its a better idea to jsut wait for the next ubuntu release?07:31
glaciousprogrock: sure why not? =)07:31
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Dr_Willishttp://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/toc.html   - 'using samba' book online. :p07:32
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Dr_Willisprogrock,  i plan on waiting.07:32
[dEvIL-bOY] cool07:32
[dEvIL-bOY] gotta get reading07:32
topyli[dEvIL-bOY] : share some directories on one box, browse them on another. for security, use share-level passwords07:32
progrockglacious, i dn.. maybe stability issues07:32
glaciousprogrock: true07:32
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_Iznogood_http://www.fxcentre.co.uk/uk/news.asp?ukts+20060119_26148_267184 Read this! Here Mark Shuttleworth (or the journalist) claims that  Google has developed its own version of Ubuntu, called Goobuntu? WTF. Can this be true?07:32
Dr_WillisLol07:33
Dr_Willisgoogle is working on a googlepc07:33
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[dEvIL-bOY] ok07:33
Dr_Willisbut Id hope they have a better name then that.07:33
[dEvIL-bOY] next question07:33
topyliDr_Willis: didn't google just deny that?07:33
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Dr_Willistopyli,  i cant keep track07:33
[dEvIL-bOY] i was trying to map some multimedia buttons07:33
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glaciousis there a way to make it so your laptop touchpad does not respond to clicks on the pad itself?  only the buttons?07:33
Dr_Willistopyli,  i though they mentioned it in the CES show.07:33
glaciousthis is way too sensitive07:33
_Iznogood_but the point here sems to be that Mark himself is saying this07:33
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[dEvIL-bOY] but somehow i managed to F4$% every single multimedia button07:34
coolboyhow can I look into my windows NTFS partition?07:34
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Dr_Willis!ntfs07:34
ubotuntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK07:34
Fadeis there documentation that describes how ubuntu lays out it's alsa configuration?07:34
rob^^^how do you find out what package owns what file?07:34
topyliDr_Willis: http://news.com.com/2061-10812_3-6016821.html - you never know what the latest info is tomorrow though :)07:34
[dEvIL-bOY] and the strange thing is that the volume up/down and mute used to work07:34
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Dr_Willistopyli,  yep.07:34
Fade'cause it doesn't look like the stock alsa config.07:34
Dr_Willistopyli,  seen $200 pc's with Lindows.. so a $200 google pc withubuntu - would be trivial07:34
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metalsandWhen I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users. Like closing nickserv's window.07:35
Dr_Willismetalsand,  irssi homepage has some tutorial guides07:35
Fade /window kill07:35
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topyliDr_Willis: yep07:35
metalsandFade: Thanks07:35
Faden'p07:35
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ilba7rany one getting results of the order 1 767 FPS using glxgears. Is that reasonable?07:36
topyliDr_Willis: i'm not sure if a $200 pc won't be much good before you add RAM, change sound and video cards and such, for another $100 :)07:36
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rob^^^Dr_Willis: a new dell only runs $250 in the US07:36
topyliDr_Willis: uhh. try to parse that, and you'll see what i wanted to say :)07:37
tpddcan anyone recomend a network maping package for linux with the same basic features as MS viso?07:37
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metalsandtpdd: Have you tried nmap?07:37
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ilba7ralso having troubles with the fglrx driver and the gdmflexiserver (new login program) just want to know if this is just specific to me.07:37
AMDXPbrb07:38
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noaXesswhat package to install, that i have basic make tools and the kernel source?07:38
_adamanyone able to get vpnc working with vpnc.0.3.307:39
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dooglusnoaXess: "build-essential" and "linux-source"07:39
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Dr_Willisrob^^^,  i got a nice $500 laptop  heh07:40
rob^^^Dr: $32507:41
rob^^^:)07:41
Dr_Willistopyli,  that $200 pc would do what my wife needs. :P web surfing and porn.. err.. email..07:41
rob^^^Dr: if you need another machine you can have my Dell Outlet script07:41
rob^^^;)07:41
Dr_Willisrob^^^,  heh - i dont need any more box's around here.. trying to clean out these old ones.07:41
rob^^^that's why I haven't bought anything off the outlet07:41
Dr_Willisi dont lose files.. i lose fileservers...07:41
Dr_Willis:P07:42
Dr_Willis'now ehere did i put that old Pent 4 system...."07:42
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rob^^^we were 2 desktops/2 laptops and now we are 1/207:42
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noaXessdooglus: thanks a lot.. its hard to be new in ubuntu.. :)07:42
topyliDr_Willis: probably yes. i have a duron 900 with 256 or RAM. i write and use the net in its various forms quite happily. i could use some more RAM though07:42
rob^^^and soon we may be 1/2 with the desktop being replaced by a server07:42
AMDXPtopyli: RAM is pretty cheap these days07:42
rob^^^I don't use a machine that has 25607:42
rob^^^I won't even touch one07:42
Dr_Willismy old imac has like 256mb ram07:42
Dr_Willis:P07:42
dooglusnoaXess: it's usually a lot busier here; I've not seen an easy question like yours go unanswered for so long before07:42
TraumI just switched from Suse to Kubuntu.  Where do i find gui for starting/stopping services like ftp, or samba?07:43
intracathAlgum de Curitiba?07:43
topyliDr_Willis: and of course, this box runs a few services but there are only two clients :)07:43
Dr_Willisimagine sayign that 10 years ago.07:43
topyliAMDXP: yes it is07:43
Dr_Willis'only' 128mb of ram07:43
AMDXPI have 256 and i just bought another 256 stick07:43
AMDXP=p07:43
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dooglusTraum: #kubuntu probably knows more about the KDE GUIs than here.07:43
rob^^^I remember people were like "64 megs on a 166? Your _never_ going to need that much ram"07:43
noaXessdooglus: no probs.. i just learning..07:43
AMDXProb: sounds like a bill gates moment07:44
dooglusAMDXP: Bill Gates' famous quote was about 640Kb, wasn't it?07:44
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topyliDr_Willis: my lady has a totally jurassic box with 128M ram, i think it's a 350mhz pentium2. she runs win98 :)07:44
AMDXPyes07:44
noaXessis use fc4 for my servers.. gsx servers.. and have testet fc4 on my acer laptop too.. but always the wlan problem..07:44
noaXesswith ubuntu.. no problem .)07:44
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tpddmetalsand i have looked at nmap but i really need something the will export to html in a similar fashion to viso and save to a viso file extension07:44
ppdback again07:44
tpddist company policy07:44
AMDXPi think this lappy i am on has 128M07:45
rob^^^ok so here is the dumb question of the hour: how do you tell what package owns a given file or directory?07:45
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rob^^^I knew,  I forgot, and for the life of me I can't remember07:45
dooglusrob^^^: installed package, or not installed?07:45
rob^^^dooglus: installed07:45
dooglusrob^^^: dpkg -S07:45
rob^^^but if you know a way to do uninstalled I'd be interested as well07:45
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dooglusrob^^^: if it's not installed, get 'apt-file' and that will tell you07:45
rob^^^aha, thanks07:45
chovy_i have a live cd which has ubuntu.iso on it, but I can't seem to boot into it.07:45
rob^^^for some reason I was thinking it was dpkg -q07:46
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zebi need help with my printer07:46
dooglusrob^^^: you know you can "man dpkg" to see the flags, right?07:46
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zebit acts like its printing but pages come out blank07:46
dooglusrob^^^:               dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...07:46
dooglus                  Search for a filename from installed packages.07:46
gaz-zeb, got ink?07:46
topylichovy_: perhaps you burned it wrong. you don't make a data cd with the iso file in it, you make a cd from the contents of the iso _image_.07:46
zebim pretty sure07:46
zebit printed under windows fine07:47
doogluszeb: did you look on the back?  maybe it's printing on the other side07:47
glacioushow do i change all my themes like GTK, icon themes, etc.?07:47
rob^^^dooglus: I checked and didn't see it07:47
rob^^^must have been a case of fridge-blindness07:47
zebno, its not printing at all07:47
dooglusrob^^^: after doing "man dpkg" type "/search" and hit return07:47
topylirob^^^: rpm has the -q switch :)07:48
dooglusrob^^^: then hit 'n' a few times 'til it finds it07:48
zebbut the copy function works great07:48
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topyliglacious: try the menu: system -> prefs -> themes07:48
glacioustopyli: thats not for GTK and icons tho is it?07:49
zebit shows up on device manager07:49
zebUSB HP PSC 121007:49
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topyliglacious: are you using gnome?07:49
glacioustopyli: yes07:50
gnudreamerit's amazingly difficult to get a hold on video, webcam, scanners!07:50
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topyliglacious: then yes, you can change everything there07:50
glacioustopyli: ok, thank you.07:50
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topyliglacious: just explore the "theme details" stuff07:50
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gnudreamerI can't get chown on dev/video07:50
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shekharcan someone help me? i cannot login as regular user anymore... gdm cannot write an authorisation... help!07:51
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mikidoes anybody know if emule runs properly through crossover?07:52
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topylimiki: i do know that amule runs perfectly without it07:53
zebcan anyone here help me07:53
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Ribsmiki: Are the Linux clients no good for you?07:53
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_jasonubotu: tell shekhar about xhangs07:53
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mikiyep, but i've got problem with packages amule depends on07:53
ubuntutestrunhello tuvok07:53
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tuvok302hey07:53
mikiI've tried 2 days to work this out07:53
t_uk2im having problems installing ubuntu07:53
topylimiki: i bet my pants that's nothing compared to the pain you will get with windows apps :)07:54
ubuntutestrunhows vulcan? :P07:54
topylimiki: let's just fix amule07:54
glacioustopyli: theres an 'install theme' button.  what kind of theme is it looking for?  like what kind of file?  a GDM theme?  GTK theme file?07:54
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mikihave you read last coverage on wine? some of the apps are faster 30% than on windows07:54
gnudreamerthe pAin of getting the kernel to recognize webcams and capture cards is great!07:54
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shekhar_jason, ubotu told me to do rm .{X,ICE}authority after logging into a terminal... is that the exact syntax?07:55
topylimiki: (which i know nothing about but i guess someone does)07:55
gnudreamerrecognize and work with07:55
noaXessis it simle to rebuild the kernel with the newest gcc 4.0.2.. my kernel is build with 3.4.5, have 2.6.12-10-38607:55
topyliglacious: gtk, metacity, icon themes07:55
ubuntutestrunare there more repositories then cipher for multi media ( breezy )\07:55
tuvok302does anyone here have a Intel536EP modem working with 5.107:55
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mikiok, tryin again apt-get install amule ;/07:55
gnudreamerlinux is a great adventure07:55
t_uk2it boots up the cd but when i press enter it just hangs07:55
_jasonshekhar: yes07:55
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ubuntutestrunmiki , try limewire07:55
ubuntutestrunits easy install, see website...07:56
mwenoaXess: why would you need that?07:56
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quackerHello, all.  My io/dma settings in /etc/modules and hdparm.conf are being completely ignored and all my IDE controllers are initializing with no features set, then I get IDE errors returned by hdparm when I call it manually from a root shell.  Also, neither ALSA nor OSS are producing any sound althought they are both installed.  If any of you are *cluefull* and have suggestionsm, please help.  (Guesses are welcome too if you're humb07:56
quackerle enough to say outright tthat you're just guessing).  Kthnxpls.07:56
t_uk2anyone got any ideas07:56
mikii know why amule doesn't work. I need new version with kad, which is supported only on debian07:56
shekhar_jason, any idea?07:56
ubuntutestrunis there an easier way to install multi media apps for ubuntu07:56
noaXessmwe: i try to install vmware workstation 5, and the isntaller say that curent gcc 4.0.2 is installed, but the kernel is build with 3.4.5..07:56
t_uk2please07:57
ubuntutestrunlike , maybe an stand alone mplayer....with everything build in...07:57
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noaXessmwe: just rerun the vmware installer with pointing to gcc 3.4.5 but.. haven't gcc 3.4.5 installed07:57
mwenoaXess: install gcc3.407:57
quackerholy quacamole!  add X-chat to the list of things needing fixing too!07:57
ubuntutestrunapt-get install gcc3.407:57
shekhar_jason, what does that do?07:57
WarriorSlayerhy guys, anyone can tell me which file i have to edit to disable some modules to be loaded?07:57
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mwenoaXess: install it07:57
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noaXessmwe: can two versions of gcc be installed=07:57
noaXess?07:57
mwenoaXess: no need to rebuild the kernel07:57
mwenoaXess: sure07:57
mikilimewire's out. I need program for both windows or linux, to download interchangeably07:57
quacker(I saw my first post, echo back to the local UI ABOVE my nickname and all chopped up too)07:57
_jasonshekhar: removes .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files07:58
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shekhar_jason, ok here goes07:58
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ubuntutestrunuse bittorrent?07:58
quackerWarriorSlayer, sudo gedit /etc/modules07:58
WarriorSlayerquacker thanks :] 07:58
noaXessmwe: ok.. thx07:58
topylimiki: why don't you just install the ubuntu package?07:58
t_uk2it boots up the cd but when i press enter it just hangs07:58
mwenoaXess: yw07:58
mikiI didn't find any07:58
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quackerWarriorSlayer, but that does not include ALL modules your system uses -- some are loaded from other *.conf07:59
WarriorSlayerquacker man, in that file only have some lines07:59
WarriorSlayerquacker well07:59
WarriorSlayerso let me explain u07:59
t_uk2come on07:59
WarriorSlayeri wanna to disable the bttv module07:59
WarriorSlayerbt878 to be precise07:59
ubuntutestrunis there an add repositorie website for ubuntu?07:59
WarriorSlayeris my capture card07:59
tuvok302manybody here got a Intel536EP drive to install on 5.10 ?07:59
ubuntutestrunwarriorslayer - take it out of the pc?08:00
quackerWarriorSlayer, I don't have much time -- I only came on because to repeat a question that I've been asking for days with no answer, just in case this is the time of day when someone who may know comes on08:00
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t_uk2hi everyone is anyone free to help me08:00
WarriorSlayerubuntutestrun didn't tryed yet08:00
WarriorSlayerbecause i use it in windows08:00
topylimiki: seems to be in the universe repository. you probably don't have it enabled. launch synaptic and enable it08:00
WarriorSlayerbut in linux i don't want to use08:01
mwet_uk2: It's not just booting with a blank screen? I had that problem but solved it by disabling framebuffer08:01
mikitopyli: give it up, I do know what I did08:01
ubuntutestrunwarriorslayer, why not use it< with tvtime >08:01
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topylimiki: i'm sure you do. i don't08:01
WarriorSlayerubuntutestrun because when the module loads08:01
WarriorSlayerthe load crashes08:01
ubuntutestrunah\08:01
ubuntutestruni see08:01
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WarriorSlayeri think the card don't run or something08:01
gnudreameror it might not be configured correctly08:02
topylimiki: did you enable the universe repository, refresh, and then search for amule, and fail to find it?08:02
WarriorSlayergnudreamer yep08:02
mwet_uk2: ?08:02
metalsandHi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work08:02
gnudreamerim having the same prolems08:02
metalsandbut Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.08:02
WarriorSlayerbut i think is more easy to unninstall by now because i'm only trying to run kubuntu for the first time08:02
t_uk2i tried that08:02
mweHiddenFly: yes. what did you try?08:03
mwet_uk2: hmm08:03
quackerWarriorSlayer, video capture is 'unsupported' and highly frustrating -- if you installed a TV viewer application and it didn't pull the right drivers or ask in debconf, then you're pretty much SOL unless you have an older ATI or Nvidia and enough clue to customize your whole X installlation  (many capture drivers are incompatible with ubuntu because it uses the the X.org's implementation of X11R6)08:03
metalsandIn Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.08:03
mikiIt's matter of libraries: That version which amule reqires isn't prepared for ubuntu yet08:03
gnudreamerI hang out here a lot ...main concerns are usually capture cards, wireless, and xorg08:03
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WarriorSlayerquacker so where i disable the module?08:03
mwet_uk2: maybe some other boot option like disabling apic. don't you even get an error? Are you sure the cd is ok?08:03
gnudreameroh yeah and resricted formats08:03
jalvarezromHello All!08:03
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WarriorSlayeror getting the card out of my pc gonna be all right?08:03
quackerbuilding X from source (or even separate packaged binary components) is a nightmare08:04
topylimiki: i just simulated an amule install, and it went fine08:04
AMDXPjalvarezrom: hello there08:04
t_uk2i have tried noapic and i have tried other cds08:04
noaXessis this the default kernel-source path: /usr/src/linux ?08:04
gnudreamerwarriorslayer what card do you use?08:04
topylimiki: are you trying to install another version? not the one that comes with ubuntu?08:04
mikiyes08:04
WarriorSlayergnudreamer pixelview mpeg208:04
mwet_uk2: adn you don't get any errors or anything?08:04
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metalsandHi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work08:04
WarriorSlayerbt878 module08:04
metalsandbut Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.08:04
topylimiki: why is that?08:04
mikithat built-in does'nt support kad08:04
metalsandIn Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.08:04
t_uk2i get a flashing cursor at the top right08:04
topylimiki: ah08:04
mikiIt's all about kademilia08:04
gnudreameri think i have seen that one in the lists of what bttv supports08:04
quackerWarriorSlayer, you're not listening, so I'm done 'helping'.  I'm trying to explain the scope of what you want to do -- it is not a matter of 'comment out module' -- it's often very nasty.08:04
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mwet_uk2: that's all? no messages before that?08:05
noaXesshav installed linux-source and find now this /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz208:05
noaXess08:05
t_uk2no08:05
noaXessneed i extract it myself?08:05
WarriorSlayerquacker i understand what u've said08:05
mikiBut at all after changin sources.list I cannot install even previous version08:05
quackerNow, does anyone know how to force DMA on when hdparm is being ignored at boot?08:05
mwet_uk2: what kind of computer is this?08:05
WarriorSlayerbut i just want to know the file that i have to comment to disable that module to be loaded08:05
t_uk2well it is an old comp athlon 200xp 128 ram08:05
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topylimiki: so, if it's available for debian, enable the debian unstable (or ubuntu dapper) source (deb-src) repository and build a package with a couple of commands08:05
topyliwith apt08:06
quacker!lart WarriorSlayer08:06
AMDXPi thought an old comp was like 500MHz lol08:06
t_uk22000 xp soz08:06
t_uk2lol08:06
mwet_uk2: should be enough to install. I don't know08:06
quackerWarriorSlayer, care mentally disabled?!?08:06
mikiYes, I did that way but 1 library (don't remember which) isn't present and availible for ubuntu08:06
WarriorSlayerquacker srry man08:06
gnudreameramdxp i was thinking my i686 is outdated08:06
mikiIt's well known on usenet08:06
t_uk2i have already installed ubuntu before and suse08:06
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quackerIf the answer is yes -- get someome to help you in person.  I answered that question twice, yet you just keep asking it.  Next time /IGNORE08:07
AMDXPgnudreamer: wow then my pc is caveman08:07
WarriorSlayerquacker but just answer one question to me plz? if i put out the card of my pc, the module will still load or it'll load unproperly and be skiped?08:07
topylimiki: can you build it from Sid sources then?08:07
mwet_uk2: weird then08:07
gnudreameryeah but can you get it to do what you want it to amdxp?08:07
t_uk2yeah nobody seems to know what to do08:07
mikiI don't know anything about Sid sources08:07
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quackerOk, that's the last time I try to answer any question until I edit my ignore script again08:07
gnudreamerwarrior you need to load the mod yourelf08:07
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AMDXPgnudreamer: of course that is why i am still on it and here my desktop is a AMD Sempron08:08
topylimiki: debian unstable sources08:08
metalsandHi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work08:08
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metalsandbut Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.08:08
metalsandIn Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.08:08
gnudreamerthan it's isnt dated is it?08:08
mikitopyli: I already give up. I don't want amule anymore.08:08
mikiThx a lot for Your help08:08
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mikigave up*08:08
topylimiki: ok then :)08:08
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ubuntutestrunmiki did you google for it?08:09
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mikiFor a long time08:09
mikigoogle's my best friend08:09
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t_uk2i really wanted ubuntu cos i dont get suse08:09
topylimiki: emule + wine will probably give you more grief though08:09
Chris_Tuckerhow does one unrar??08:09
gnudreamerlsmod | grep bttv see if its loaded08:09
quackermiki consider yourself 'gifted' then08:09
mikiI'm thinking of running it interchangeably08:09
ubuntutestrunah, ok...08:09
topylit_uk2: xubuntu will probably run on that box quite nicely08:09
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quackerSome people seem google-challenged08:09
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quacker=P08:10
mwet_uk2: but he can't get the installer up08:10
mwetopyli: ^08:10
topylioh08:10
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krach-arangoogle ??? what's that :P08:10
topylit_uk2: install a minimal debian woody, then upgrade to xubuntu?08:10
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shekhar_jason, that command didn't work to get me logged in08:11
quad_Where do I find the linux kernel headers in ubuntu?08:11
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quackermiki, there are great community-authored howtos on (1.) installing Java and (2.) installing azureus Java source package08:11
quad_Need the dest. for installation of Cisco VPN client.08:11
shekhar_jason, rm.{X,ICE}authority removed the files but i still couldn't login08:11
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tattersE: apache: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 139 <--does anyone know how to fix this?08:11
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t_uk2i wouldnt have a clue how to do that08:11
mwetopyli: Have you tried that? It sounds like it could work08:11
slavikI followed the sub java manual install guide08:11
topylimwe: no i haven't but i figure it could work pretty easily08:11
slavikit seemed to work :)08:12
mikiOh, I've been told about azerus08:12
quackerAzureus is a VERY NICE bittorrent client that also talks to other P2P networks like e-mule08:12
AMDXPquaker: didnt they used to have a sticky in the forums for installing azureus08:12
quackerwiki.ubuntu.com is your friend08:12
quad_Linux kernel headers... where??08:12
mwetopyli: yeah it sounds sane enough08:12
noaXesswhere are the kernel-source files, have installed linux-source from 2.6.1208:12
mikiIs there as much files as on ed2k and kad?08:12
slavikquacker: talking to edonkey network (emule is a windows clent) can be dangerous ...08:12
quackerAMD_XP,  wiki.ubuntu.com is your friend -- it's right there now08:12
slavikmiki: yes there are08:12
ubuntutestrunthe versio for emule is called amule08:12
topylimwe: after all, woody is old enough, so not much of debian legacy should be left on the box08:12
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jendaI have some trouble with gmail & thunderbird - I received a few large email and I felt that I have no need to DL them, so I opened the web interface and deleted them - but when I try to retrieve the mail w/ thunderbird it says receiving message 1 of 6 (which means it still tries to get the ones I removed) and it seems to get stuck eventually, without getting any mail at all. Anyone have any tips as to what I could do?08:12
AMDXPwow my nick is jacked up hold on08:12
mikiOk, so i'm a try it08:12
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AMDXPoh ok08:13
AMDXPits ok08:13
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t_uk2how would i do that08:13
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nekroni can't play my mp3 using amarok.. i changed the engines but nothing :{08:13
slavikjenda: is the mail marked as read?08:13
slavikjenda: tell thunderbird not to retrieve mail that is read08:13
metalsandtest.08:13
quackerslavik, well at least azureus doesn't run as root and is highly customizeable (if you have 'advanced skills' you can set global security options in your Java Runtime Environment too)08:13
mwet_uk2: what kind of internet connection?08:14
topylit_uk2: do a woody base install. edit sources.list to point to ubuntu breezy sources. then apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, and install xubuntu-desktop08:14
jendaslavik: I'll check that, but still, why does it get stuck, they aren't _that_ big...08:14
slavikquacker: I like it, because it has a built in tracker :)08:14
t_uk2that sounds really hard lol08:14
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quackertopyli, I though mixing Debian and Ubuntu would break Linux... ???08:14
shekhar_jason, can you help further?08:14
t_uk2im only a newbie ;)08:14
topyliquacker: you think right08:14
slavikjenda: maybe the connections gets timed out for some reason and then can't get restarted ...08:14
jendamaybe...08:14
mwet_uk2: but it's not hard. come here for help if you need to08:14
frogzooany tips on how to install the gxmms applet onto the taskbar? I've installed the gxmms pkg, now what?08:15
ubuntutestrunmiki?08:15
ubuntutestrunstill around?08:15
topyliquacker: however, woody is very old and nothing will be left of it after the upgrade08:15
slavikjenda: it's the only reason I can come up ... could be a problem with gmail or thuinderbird or any software in between.08:15
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quackertopyli what is the exceptional reason for recommending woody base here (just curious)?08:15
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mikiubuntutestrun, yep08:15
t_uk2what do i get first08:15
topyliquacker: yes ^08:15
nekronanyone uses amarok?08:15
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mwetopyli: but why not sarge?08:15
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Pygignomefreak:ping08:15
topylimwe: mwe: not old enough08:15
slavikI like the debian-stable guarantee :)08:15
AMDXPgnome: welcome back08:15
ubuntutestruni will try to install amule, if it works i will leet you know08:16
quackertopyli, so are you sayint that you go up to when they froze Sarge at the point when it became 'binary-incompatible' with Breezy?08:16
slavik!amarok08:16
ubotusomebody said amarok was a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/08:16
Chris_Tuckerhow does one unrar a file?08:16
mwetopyli: not old enough? you some things would stick around?08:16
topylimwe: with sarge yes08:16
plettfrogzoo: right click on taskbar, "add to panel"08:16
Hobble_Chris_Tucker: unrar x file.rar08:16
slaviknekron: do you have a problem with amarok?08:16
mwetopyli: maybe so08:16
frogzooplett, yep, but the gxmms applet's not there....08:16
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nekronslavik: si, i can't play :~08:16
metalsandCan someone help me with getting my screen resolution to work? I've tried EVERY step in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto and CANNOT get it to work.08:16
topyliquacker: no version has ever had a package as old as woody packages08:16
mikiubuntutestrun, ok, thx08:16
slavikOMG!!! chris tucker is using ubuntu!!! ^^08:16
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topyliquacker: that's the guarantee :)08:17
slaviknekron: it just doesn't play the file without giving an error?08:17
AMDXPgnomefreak: you ok?08:17
quackerLOL08:17
shekharcan someone help me, i cannot login to ubuntu, says gdm cannot write authorisation file, i am totally locked out except if i login as root08:17
plettfrogzoo: odd. it is on my machine08:17
t_uk2mwe so i got to download debian woody, can u give me a link for that lol08:17
t_uk2soz08:17
BrickMakerin koepete i'm trying to view some can cam.. getting error that i don't have jasper08:17
mwet_uk2: debian.org08:17
frogzooplett, wierd - I missed it b4 lo - k, thx08:17
t_uk2im on it but i cant find woody08:18
slavikshekhar: have you tried logging in as root and then relogging as a user in command line?08:18
soundrayshekhar, sounds like your root partition is full.08:18
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mwet_uk2: I wonder why you can't bring up the installer if you did before08:18
slaviknekron: it just doesn't play the file without giving an error?08:18
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gnomefreakis the package mozilla-mail thunderbird/mozilla browser?08:18
t_uk2yeah i know08:18
metalsandCan someone help me with getting my screen resolution to work? I've tried EVERY step in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto and CANNOT get it to work.08:18
topylit_uk2: hm. they probably don't advertise woody cd's very actively these days :)08:19
quackertopyli, what about installing  an older copy of Sarge with XFree86 X11R6, then changing to Breezy repos, then doing apt-get dist-upgrade with all XFree86 packages pinned in dselect/aptitude/synaptic ?08:19
shekharsoundray, it was, but i cleared lots of stuff and still have the problem08:19
slavikgnomefreak: mozilla usually includes a mail client ...08:19
shekharslavik, how do i do that?08:19
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shekharslavik, i am logged in as root08:19
gnomefreakslavik: ty08:19
plettfrogzoo: there must be a memory leak in gxmms, i have to restart it once a week to stop it using up all my ram08:19
ubuntutestrunmiki : no luck08:19
nekronslavik: yes08:19
ubuntutestrun:{08:19
noaXessany idea? installed linux-source.. now where are this files? /usr/src/linux/include? there is nothing08:19
ownert_uk2 why dont you just use the vesa drivers08:19
slavikshekhar: log in as root, then kill gnome/kde to get to command line, log out, log in as the user and start the command line.08:19
nekronslavik: change for the next music.. but in xmms i play normal08:19
t_uk2what08:19
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ownerthe xorg vesa drivers08:19
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topyliquacker: no x. just the base install08:20
ownerthey work on all cards08:20
slaviknekron: could be that it doesn't find the library to play your media file ...08:20
mikiubuntutestrun, as I said, give up, save nerves08:20
shekharslavik, i can do that, problem is that i cannot login to gnome directly as user08:20
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metalsandowner: How do I change to vesa drivers08:20
topyliquacker: oh, i see, you want xfree8608:20
t_uk2i havent got a clue what u are on about08:20
mikiazureus looks nice08:20
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slavikshekhar: someone suggested that your root partition is full, see if it is ...08:20
topyliquacker: won't work, breezy X clients will depend on xorg08:20
metalsandowner: I've used a live CD and my resolution worked perfectly, but with Ubuntu something fails and I cannot adjust my resolution08:20
zecrazytuxhey08:20
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phimichello all08:20
frogzooplett, now just need to find a spare 1/2 inch to fit the applet :)08:20
zecrazytuxhow can i change my breezy for a dapper drake ? what "name" in the sources.list, please ?08:21
Pygignomefreak:ping08:21
ubuntutestrunmiki08:21
Pygi!dapper08:21
ubotufrom memory, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.08:21
mikiyep?08:21
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shekharslavik, i have cleared 50 mb from my root partition and still no luck :(08:21
slavikguys, is there a way to get the OSX bar thing without gDesklets?08:21
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metalsandowner: How do I change to vesa drivers08:21
metalsandowner: I've used a live CD and my resolution worked perfectly, but with Ubuntu something fails and I cannot adjust my resolution08:21
shekharslavik, i can login as user from cl08:21
phimicwhere can i find the Xorg 7.0 release?08:21
slavikshekhar: hmm ...08:21
plettfrogzoo: your panel is that full? :)08:21
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t_uk2i cant find woody, i know i will download the wrong one08:21
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slavikshekhar: then what I wanted to suggest before is to reinstall gdm ...08:21
ubuntutestrunmiki, accept dcc?08:22
slavikapt-get reinstall08:22
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shekharslavik, sudo apt-get reinstall gdm ?08:22
slavikshekhar: what's the error again?08:22
mikipreffer mail08:22
slavikshekhar: that would be it ... I think08:22
frogzooplett, it's pretty busy - both of them :D08:22
ubuntutestrunmiki : hmm, you dont know dcc, right08:22
plettfrogzoo: i still prefer xmms instead of rhythmbox or amarok. and especilly instead of totem08:22
slavikgimmie the full error, I want to try google08:22
soundrayshekhar, 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm'08:22
slavik!forumsdown08:22
ubotuubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)08:22
quackertopyli, I also want my *#%^ing DMA channels to work.   Do you know how to do that?08:22
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frogzooplett, I agree - xmms is very nice08:23
quackerubotu, tell me about Xfree8608:23
shekharslavik soundray : re-installing gdm...08:23
ubuntutestrunok, here's the file for amule : http://akurashy.com/ubuntu/amule-2.1.0_2.1.0-1_i386.deb08:23
Pygihow can I fix non working gnome taskbar? :-P08:23
xbox_skyhi, I just installed unrar non free trough a debian file but it doesnt work too well, any ideas or what rep i'm missing?08:23
kinagiHey. Uh, I'm trying to install a winamp rpm. And I've already converted it to a .deb And then I did the whole dpkg crap. It says it's set up..but..what exactly do I do to use it?08:23
soundrayshekhar, have you got space on root?08:23
zecrazytuxwell dapper drake is like the "testing" version of debian ?08:23
ubuntutestrunmiki ; seen url?08:23
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xbox_skyUNRAR 2.71 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2000 Eugene Roshal08:23
ownerkinagi isnt winamp alpha08:23
xbox_skyold or new build ^??08:23
shekharsoundray, yes, i cleared space08:23
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kinagiUh, I assume so, owner./08:23
soundrayshekhar, how about tmp?08:23
mikiubuntutestrun, yep08:23
ubuntutestrunok08:24
ubuntutestrun:)08:24
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ubuntutestrundownload an save it somewhere...08:24
shekharsoundray, what do you mean?08:24
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ubuntutestrungood luck08:24
mikilast try08:24
soundrayshekhar, 'df | grep tmp' -- how much space?08:24
Wibble-hey - trying to install nvidia drivers I get "NVRM: isr request failed".  Anyone got any clues what might be wrong?08:24
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kinagiHey. Uh, I'm trying to install a winamp rpm. And I've already converted it to a .deb And then I did the whole dpkg crap. It says it's set up..but..what exactly do I do to use it?08:25
shekharsoundray, tmpfs                   777876         0    777876   0% /dev/shm08:25
shekhartmpfs                   777876     12588    765288   2% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile08:25
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soundrayshekhar, that's fine then.08:25
shekharyep08:25
quad_Where do I find the linux kernel headers in ubuntu??08:25
slavikWibble-: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=4659008:25
shekharsoundray slavik : thanks for your help, i'll be right back when i test if the gdm re-install worked08:25
metalsandCan I edit my xorg.conf with a new driver?08:25
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metalsandVesa works08:25
slavikshekhar: gl :)08:26
kinagiOf course, first time the place is active, no one will respond to me.08:26
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metalsandbut it's using i810.08:26
soundrayshekhar, okay, good luck -- I may be unresponsive at times.08:26
slavikmetalsand: you need to install the driver first ...08:26
Wibble-thanks slavik08:26
metalsandslavik: Isn't vesa installed by default?08:26
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quad_Can anybody help me?08:26
ompaul!anyone08:26
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>08:26
Pygicom'on how to fix gnome taskbar? :-P08:27
plettkinagi: just install xmms. it looks and feels very similar to winamp08:27
quad_Should be a rather simple question08:27
soundrayquad_, the packages are called linux-headers-*08:27
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slavikmetalsand: I'd guess so08:28
johndoI can't get amarok to build a collection of mp3's over a sambamount08:28
slavikmetalsand: I thought you wanted some other driver08:28
quad_soundray, but I need to find the distination for them. An readme says it should be somewhere around /usr/src/linux-* but they are not?!08:28
slavikquad_: maybe you don't have them?08:28
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soundrayquad_, have you installed the package?08:29
metalsandslavik: I do08:29
ubuntutestrunmiki, did you get it installed?08:29
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quad_not manually no...08:29
slavikmetalsand: so, you want to change the driver?08:29
metalsandslavik: I want my resolution to work, and the driver I'm using is a piece of shit.08:29
quad_i should do so?08:29
metalsandslavik: Yes08:29
TQuidHi folks, I'm needing header files for nis, but there doesn't seem to be an nis-devel package. Where would I find the needful stuff?08:29
soundrayquad_, what's the problem you are actually trying to solve?08:29
slavikyou need to edit the config file then :)08:29
quad_soundray, apt-get install linux-headers-*08:29
soundrayquad_, what's the problem you are actually trying to solve?08:30
slavikmetalsand: you want to switch back to vesa?08:30
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quad_soundray, it is an VPN client install file, asking for the destination.08:30
metalsandslavik: I've never used vesa, but that's what I want to use because I know my resolution works in vesa.08:30
ompaulPygi, try >>gnome-panel<< and let us know what happens08:30
slavikmetalsand: in the config file, find the area for the video08:30
metalsandslavik: Do I just simply set vesa as the Driver: in xorg.conf?08:30
slavikthen change the driver line08:30
slavikyes08:30
slavikthat is my understanding ...08:30
noaXesssomebody any idea? where is the default linux-source path?08:30
slavikI would back up the config file just in case08:31
Pygiompaul: well, gnome-panel is already running :)08:31
slaviknoaXess: have you tried the wiki? the answer might be there08:31
soundrayquad_, installing an Ubuntu package?08:31
quad_soundray, no - how do you meen?08:31
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noaXessslavik: wiki on ubuntu.com.. no not yet08:31
shekharslavik and soundray: thanks for your help, i fixed the problem!08:32
slavikyes, that wiki08:32
ompaulPygi, so what is wrong with it then?08:32
shekharslavik and soundray :)08:32
slavik:D08:32
soundrayquad_, you seem to want a VPN client on your machine. Are you installing from an Ubuntu package, or from some other source?08:32
slavikthe reinstall did it?08:32
soundrayWell done shekhar.08:32
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Melechorionhi08:32
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slaviklinux and windows aren't that different after all ^^08:33
quad_soundray, In that case, no. I DL'ed a tarball from a site, and now I am installing it, by running a file in it, called vpn_install08:33
MelechorionI've got a problem with my nVidia Sound driver. The Kernel header is installed and gcc-3.4 & g++-3.4 too. whats wrong? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/150208:33
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gnomefreakquad_: that works?08:34
soundrayquad_, what's the name of the software you are trying to install?08:34
slavikMelechorion: simple, cc is not aliased to gcc :)08:34
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noaXessaha..08:34
quad_soundray, Cisco VPN Client08:34
pixelfairyanyone here use firestarter?08:34
ubuntutestrunwhy is there not one single package for all multi media needs?08:34
ubuntutestrunwould be much cooler!08:34
pixelfairytried it, and couldnt edit policy, even trying to run it as root08:34
FliesLikeALapquad_,  i'm having probs with that too08:34
noaXessslavik: is it normal.. that install linux.source over synaptic only download the source.. not extract it?08:34
slavikubuntutestrun: in the OSS community, you have the power to create such a package :)08:35
pixelfairyubuntutestrun: you could download the all-blahblah from mplayerhq.hu08:35
gnomefreakubotu tell ubuntutestrun about easysource08:35
soundrayquad_, any particular reason why you want Cisco instead of a package that has been tried and tested with Ubuntu?08:35
Melechorionslavik: how can I do it?08:35
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xbox_skyugh firestarter..........08:35
ubuntutestrunyeah where is easy source?08:35
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pixelfairyxbox_sky: so you tried it too?08:35
soundray!easysource08:35
ubotuFor an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic08:35
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slaviknoaXess: I would expect the extraction unless you told it to download only08:35
gnomefreakubuntutestrun: read the pm ubotu sent you08:35
Pygiompaul: sorry, system froze :/08:35
ubuntutestrunah08:35
ubuntutestrunyes i know now!08:35
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Pygignomefreak: you alive? :p08:35
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slavikMelechorion: hold on, going to look up the man page for alias :)08:35
quad_soundray, just picked the one that came reccomended by my university techstaff.08:36
pixelfairyfor some reason my roomates comp started freezing when that ran08:36
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ubuntutestrunbut still its the cipher repository\08:36
pixelfairyand seems to have gone away since she took it off08:36
xbox_skypixelfairy, yeah man, I can't say I like it either... I had to KILL it in order to shut it down, despite my settings08:36
FliesLikeALapyeah quad i can't get mine to install on the latest ubuntu kernel08:36
ubuntutestrunwich is overloaded as it is..08:36
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ubuntutestrundid you know that?08:36
mikiubuntutestrun, $amule ; (...) Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected.08:36
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ompaulPygi, is it okay now?08:36
xbox_skyportforward killed my connection.......nowdays i'm running guarddog or no GUI fw at all08:36
ubuntutestrunmiki, not nice08:36
Pygiompaul: no :/08:36
pixelfairysoooo, do i make a iptalbes script, or is there a better gui fw?08:36
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quad_soundray, http://kortlink.dk/2cf9, FliesLikeABrick, oh... same prob. as me??08:36
gnomefreakubuntutestrun: seveas repo is also a multimedia heaven08:36
pixelfairyi dont really want to teach an end user all about tcp/ip and iptables08:37
noaXessslavik: normaly i do not activate the option to download only.. hm...08:37
FliesLikeALapyeah quad mine worked until i upgraded my kernel a month ago08:37
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ubuntutestrunseveas, ok cool08:37
slavikMelechorion: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/alias.1.html08:37
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pixelfairyubuntutestrun: theres easyubuntu in the works, you should help test it08:37
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pixelfairyits a script to do all that08:37
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ifirothhi08:37
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Melechorionthx08:37
slavikMelechorion: alias cc='gcc'08:37
slavikhat should work08:37
quad_I just upgraded today... but, I seem to have problems just installing though.08:37
ompaulPygi, so hit print screen and paste the screenshot in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then maybe I can have some idea of what is bugging you08:37
newuseri have a 20GB ext drive,usb, it will show up in file browser for a few seconds then it is gone, any ideas?08:37
holycowdoes anyone know how to run a .jnlp file in ubuntu?  i thought a web runtime was supposed to automaticall startup for that, no?08:37
ubuntutestrunmiki , got amule up and running08:37
slaviknoaXess: then it could be that the package says to download the stuff only ...08:37
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quad_FliesLikeABrick, I just upgraded today... but, I seem to have problems just installing though.08:37
Pygiwell, the lower taskbar is not showing which apps are running :)08:37
miguel_hola08:38
christianmortalhello all08:38
slaviknewuser: bad USB connection?08:38
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christianmortalim new to linux and id love some help with my wifi08:38
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christianmortalcan anyone help08:38
metalsandGreat. THat didn't work08:38
slavikchristianmortal: do you know what 'ndiswrapper' is?08:38
BrickMakerin koepete i'm trying to view some can cam.. getting error that i don't have jasper08:38
metalsandIt just made my screen all pixalated and fuzzy08:38
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; yes what is it?08:38
christianmortalyep ive installed it08:38
Pygiompaul: you understand? :P08:38
pixelfairychristianmortal: did you check the wifi and ndiswrapper at http://wiki.ubuntu.org08:38
metalsandIs there anyone that can ACTUALLY get my screen resolution to work?08:38
soundrayquad_, if this software needs the kernel headers, you have to 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'08:38
metalsandI don't think it's possible.08:38
slavikchristianmortal: hold on08:38
christianmortalok08:39
pixelfairyoops08:39
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; what card type?08:39
varsendaggerhey are there ways to tune up gnome to make it run faster?08:39
metalsandI dunno why it works on everything but Ubuntu....08:39
ifirothi'm new in Ubuntu, can someone tell me about some good website ?08:39
gnomefreak!fixres08:39
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto08:39
slavikchristianmortal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%2908:39
peter__ndiswrapper is a package that allows you to run windows drivers for network cards08:39
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pixelfairychristianmortal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com08:39
metalsandgnomefreak: I went through EVERY step in that guide08:39
ompaulPygi, exit go to a terminal and do this "killall nautilus"08:39
christianmortalits a ralink RT250008:39
metalsandgnomefreak: I don't know if I did something incorrect, but none of those options worked.08:39
pixelfairythey have a special page for that one08:39
ubuntutestrunmiki : what version of ubuntu have you got?08:39
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quad_soundray, It seems according to my pkg manager, that the pkg is installed. And is placed at /usr/include/linux - can that be the right one??08:40
jendaHmm... my Thunderbird still attempts to download 6 messages and gets stuck, even though there are only two in my inbox... no messages in the archive are marked unread, and thunderbird is set only to scoop the inbox. It's obviously remembering the number, not checking it. Is there a way to "clear" it's memory? (slavik)08:40
ubuntutestrunmiki : i got it running on breezy right now08:40
christianmortalnewest stable08:40
theSamokeren re-compilation guide please08:40
slavikchristianmortal: follow the guide on the page I gave you, it's the best I can do atm ...08:40
BrickMakeri'm trying to view cam on kopete i'm getting error some thing like jasper08:40
gnomefreakmetalsand: did you run through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?08:40
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peter__I have an ralink 2500 and it is working perfectly under breezy badger ubuntu08:40
metalsandgnomefreak: No.08:40
soundrayquad_, to find out where a package puts its files, do 'dpkg -L packagename'08:40
theSamokernel^08:40
metalsandgnomefreak: You mean the first option?08:40
metalsandgnomefreak: Yes, I did that. Nothing08:40
slavikjenda: I have no clue ...08:40
gnomefreakmetalsand: use sudo and do that set the res at the levels you would like to use/have to use08:41
christianmortalit ran under the cd live but under install it does not connect08:41
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slavikjenda: I'd try the thunderbird/mozilla channel ...08:41
FliesLikeALapsoundray,  mine errs on compilation of the cisco ipset module08:41
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slavikhello08:41
feistelhow I can install a GTK 2 theme?08:41
BrickMakeraight.. i think nobody experience wtih Kopete08:41
noaXessslavik: synaptic download the linux-source .deb file and extract the .tar.bz2 file into /usr/src...08:41
christianmortalhello08:41
jendaslavik: OK :)08:41
metalsandgnomefreak: I don't get it.. "and do that", what is that?08:41
FliesLikeALapbah well i'l go back to it on my own08:41
FliesLikeALapi'm in class now so meh08:41
gnomefreakfeistel: synaptic08:41
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slavikfeistel: download the tar.gz and then use the theme manager to install it08:41
christianmortalso what next08:41
Fraggingfeistel: system -> preferences -> theme08:41
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peter__I just got AUtomatix loaded, and it installed Ndiswrapper as well, with a gui08:42
slaviknoaXess: is that dir fine with you?08:42
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gnomefreakmeta type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through each step carfully.08:42
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soundrayFliesLikeALap, quad_, always better to use Ubuntu packaged software.08:42
slavikpeter__: if you use the default ubuntu installation, then ndiswrapper should be installed automatically08:42
noaXessslavik: i think so.. i think i need extract it myself..08:42
christianmortalok then its installed08:42
noaXessslavik: like explained in wiki :)08:43
hartsantlerhas anybody tried ubuntu64bit, is it much faster than 32bit, would python be any faster?08:43
slaviknoaXess: you can always do that ^^08:43
christianmortali can call it via bah08:43
christianmortalbash08:43
FliesLikeALapsoundray,  will a ubuntu packaged vpn client be compatible with my school's infrastructure08:43
christianmortalsorry08:43
bleakedhello, i am a debian user, and am helping a friend go linux.  he installed kubuntu.  i know in deb there are various branches (stable/testing/unstable) -- does this apply to ubuntu as well?  like if he wants more recent software, is there another set of reps?08:43
slaviknoaXess: can you give me the link to the wiki page?08:43
pixelfairyhartsantler: it wouldnt, except for doing 64bit math08:43
feistelFragging: I need install from console08:43
pixelfairyor playing with >4gigs of ram08:43
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feistelI don't have a gnome desktop08:43
soundrayFliesLikeALap, depends on which client you choose. Check with 'apt-cache show packagename'08:43
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slavikFliesLikeALap: if your school's vpn is  standard, then probably08:43
Fraggingfeistel: sorry, then I can't help you08:43
FliesLikeALapk soundray  i'll look into it later08:43
gnomefreakfeistel: what desktop do you have?08:44
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; what card type ? pcmcia , usb, ?08:44
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_luizi can't get my sound to work08:44
feistelgnomefreak: KDE08:44
mwehartsantler: also I hear people having problems with multimedia and having no java or flash plugin08:44
christianmortalim still a little confused as how to install the driver for my card under for ndiswrapper08:44
feistelslavik: where I can find a theme installer?08:44
gnomefreakfeistel: use adept or synaptic08:44
war-totem_luiz: try typing esd in a console08:44
slavikmwe: java does not come by default08:44
Fraggingfeistel: maybe untar the tar.gz the theme came in and place the contents in your ~/.themes ? If I'm correct, not sure....08:44
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; what card type ? pcmcia , usb, ?08:44
soundrayhartsantler, 64bit is worth it if you have applications that are limited by memory throughput.08:44
christianmortalpcmcia08:44
_luizeven if i'm using KDE?08:45
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christianmortalbelkin08:45
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; brand? and does it light up ?08:45
war-totem_luiz: yea08:45
feistelgnomefreak: adept and synaptic is for .deb packages08:45
feistelI need a theme installer, not a package installer08:45
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; at boot time of ubuntu08:45
christianmortalit did with the live cd but not under a fresh install08:45
soundrayhartsantler, I have one app that runs six times faster on amd64 2Ghz than on i686 3GHz.08:45
slavikfeistel: downlaod a theme from gnomelook.org, then open the theme manager thingy (system -> preferences -> themes) then click on install new theme button and point it to the archive you downloaded08:45
christianmortalnope08:45
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war-totem_luiz: fyi their is a kubuntu channel08:45
feistelslavik: I don't have a GTK desktop08:45
_luiz"command not found"08:45
Pygiompaul: I've tried that before also...and tried now...hasn't worked08:45
feistelI need a theme for gimp08:45
gnomefreakfeistel: use gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org08:46
_luizyea, i know08:46
slavikfeistel: what do you use?08:46
peter__I was really impressed with Automatix. Loaded all the video and audio plugins, codecs, and about 25 common packages with dependencies in like 3 hours. I Loaded Kubuntu, had all kinds of root permission issues, ended up loading ubuntu then loading Kubuntu-desktop on top of it for the KDE08:46
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; do you know the type name and number?08:46
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christianmortalof the card yea one sec08:46
slavikfeistel: kde?08:46
feistelgnomefreak: I have a tarball of my theme08:46
feistelslavik: yes08:46
Pygiubotu tell peter__ about automatix08:46
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pixelfairykubuntu on top of ubuntu seems pretty nice08:46
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christianmortalBelkin F5D7010 version 308:46
pixelfairyifyou have the space anyway08:46
slavikfeistel: then go to the kde menu, look for the way to change the theme ... I forget where it is ...08:46
war-totem_luiz: is yoru sound card deteted?08:46
Amaranthpeter__: automatix broke kubuntu or kubuntu was just broken?08:46
gahancan i set default gtk font?08:46
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slavikand then point it to the archive too08:46
war-totem_luiz: detected08:47
FraggingI wonder, is anyone else having problems with Rhytmbox in Dapper? It won't play anything at all for me?08:47
gnomefreakubotu tell peter__ about easyubuntu08:47
_luiznope08:47
peter__Kubuntu was just broken08:47
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_luizit's an onboard AD188808:47
slavikubotu tell slavik about easyubuntu08:47
_luizwith M545508:47
peter__I couldnt get permissions, i even went in and did sudo passwd root and changed it, it changed it right back08:47
hkaishi08:47
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Pygiompaul: thoughts?08:48
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; ok give me one minute08:48
gahanhow do i set/change gtk1.2 font?08:48
christianmortalgreat08:48
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slavikgahan: you mean the default font?08:48
mwegahan: use "switch" from gtk-theme-switch08:48
ompaulPygi, none, at the moment08:48
mwegahan: you can't use ttf fonts though08:48
war-totem_luiz: not quite sure how to get kubuntu to detect a sound card, but their must be a manual way around it08:49
gahanthey're nasty. the xmms right-click menu and xmms configuration is just unreadable (i dont mean the playlist/main window fonts). afaik it's controleld my gtk1208:49
gahani'll try that switch08:49
hkaisi have under /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686 a volatile directory, how can I update the containing modules?08:49
ompaulPygi, are you running breezy?08:49
mwegahan: you can't get a beatiful font in gtk1. you can limit the pain though08:50
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soundrayhkais, by updating the kernel package.08:50
pixelfairynexus is a pretty font08:50
Pygiompaul: yes, the dapper edition works great, better then breezy :)08:50
holycowanyone knokw how to get jnlp java files to actually run as a java applet inside a browser window?  my browsers insist on trying to save the file08:50
gahanok, thanks08:50
FliesLikeALapsoundray,  the vpnc package looks promising, itll most likely work out when i can take the time to configure it08:50
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gnomefreakgahan: you can change your font at system>prefferences>font08:50
FliesLikeALapquad_, check out the vpnc package08:50
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; trying to find an good how to08:50
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hkaissoundray: is it possible to avoid this? I want only to add the fglrx.ko08:50
war-totem_luiz: try this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=274308:50
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; you have to install ndisrapper, did you manage to do that?08:51
soundrayhkais, for that, I suggest you install the linux-restricted package that contains it.08:51
christianmortalyea thats ok and installed08:51
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BrickMakerwhere i can get good icons ?08:51
_luizi'll take a look08:51
quad_FliesLikeABrick, im on it, and if you have looked at the link i threw, im following the Debian approach08:51
_luizthanks08:51
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ompaulPygi, was that a yes Pygi is running breezy?08:51
hkaissoundray: i have installed the restricted, but i want to use the current version of the ati driver08:51
christianmortalbut it thought the card was supported08:52
FliesLikeALapsorry quad_ , i'm in class and missed your link, mind pasting again?08:52
Pygiompaul: yes, the problem arisses on breezy08:52
BrickMakerHelp08:52
quad_FliesLikeABrick, not at all: http://kortlink.dk/2cf908:52
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soundrayhkais, have you found the instructions?08:52
BrickMakeri wanted to change my linux style .. i would love task bar as windows style how can i do it?08:52
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; some get it working, some dont...but you need ndisrapper any how08:52
hkaissoundray: no, there can i find it?08:52
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christianmortalok08:52
soundrayubotu, tell hkais about ati08:52
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hkaisi got it working, but i had to replace the driver manually08:52
BrickMakeri wanted to change my linux style .. i would love to change linux gnome task bar in windows style task bar how can i do it?08:53
slavikBrickMaker: find the proper theme08:53
_luizwell... at least the sound worked very well on Hoary08:53
BrickMakerslavik, Proper theme from where?08:53
slavikgnomelook.org?08:53
BrickMakerOk08:54
noaXessis it possible, that vmware can't be installed on a debian based system?08:54
noaXessalso from source?08:54
gnomefreakgnome-look.org08:54
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; are you still there?08:54
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christianmortalyep08:54
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slaviknoaXess: I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be allowed to install08:55
ubuntutestrunok, i give you an url for website, please read it ..and hopefully it will08:55
ubuntutestrunhelp you to get it up and running08:55
Pygiompaul: why does dapper works better then breezy :)))08:55
ubuntutestrunif not try here again, ok?08:55
ubuntutestrunhttp://www.signal2noise.co.uk/~eason/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/technical08:55
johndowhy can't I post here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=6802808:55
noaXessslavik: i to.. it says there is no version.h in the /usr/src/linux files..08:55
ubuntutestrunbook mark it...08:55
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ubuntutestrun:)08:56
noaXessslavik: i have extracted /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz208:56
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slaviknoaXess: hmm ... try to search for that file08:56
noaXessand made ln -s linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 linux08:56
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noaXessslavik: for what file?08:56
slavikversion.h08:56
noaXessversion.h08:56
noaXessah ok..08:56
slavikmaybe it wasn't with the package ...08:57
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; got the website and found the info? for your card and instructions...?08:57
hkaissoundray: i have done the setup like in the instruction, except, that i cannot remove my restricted modules...08:57
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BrickMakeri have this theme http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=33513  .... but my task bar is still at same side08:57
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BrickMakerin screen shot you can see the difference08:58
christianmortalok great08:58
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soundrayhkais, that shouldn't be necessary.08:58
christianmortalso do you think we can configure it08:58
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Pygignomefreak:ping08:59
christianmortalideally it would be great if we could compile the driver and install it08:59
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christianmortalbut if ndis is anygood then i can use that08:59
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Pygicom'on people, help me with gnome :-P08:59
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; how do you normally instal packages?09:00
noaXessslavik: version.h should be in /user/src/linux/.. see error..09:01
christianmortalwell using make09:01
christianmortalis there an easier way09:01
hkaissoundray: anyway the kernel loads the fglrx provided by restricted package09:01
noaXessslavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754109:01
hkaissoundray: but I need the ati newer version...09:02
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; well never mind, open console , apt-get install ndisrapper-utils09:02
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hkaisubutu tell hkais volatile09:02
_robini'm switching to kubuntu, how to get rid of the GNOME packages like synaptic, at once, and have a computer like i only installed kubuntu and not ubuntu?09:02
yatesysynaptic is not a gnome package09:03
hkaisubutu tell hkais about volatile09:03
Pygisudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop09:03
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_robinPygi: no that doesn't work09:03
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; did it install?09:03
_robinsince kubuntu-desktop remove ubuntu-desktop09:03
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ompaulPygi, sudo apt-get reinstall09:03
_robinand removing ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage09:03
_robindoesn't work.09:03
Pygiompaul: tried already09:04
softhi09:04
ubuntutestrunoh, you are so soft!09:04
christianmortaldone09:04
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christianmortalthen09:04
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; get your windows driver cdrom09:04
JoeBlowanyone gotten empire earth 2 to work on ubuntu using wine?09:04
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christianmortalok hang 509:04
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; hang 5?09:04
christianmortalgetting the cd09:05
ubuntutestrunah!09:05
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_robini'm switching to kubuntu, how to get rid of the GNOME packages like synaptic, at once, and have a computer like i only installed kubuntu and not ubuntu?09:05
ompaulPygi, well then sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop ??09:05
christianmortalok09:05
bimberiubotu tell _robin about removegnome09:05
christianmortalihaver it mounted09:05
_robinthank you :)09:06
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; is it just one cddrive?09:06
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bimberiyw :)09:06
christianmortalyea09:06
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ubuntutestrunok09:06
Pygi ompaul: tried that as well09:06
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bobbydhi09:06
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gonzalocortesis there some one?09:06
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noaXessubotu: tell noaxess about linux-source09:06
gooI am having some problems with Rhythmbox. It doesn't want to play mp3. I have installed the gstreamer-mad package, but that didn't do it. I did a apt-get --reinstall install rhythmbox as well. Are there any dark magic I have to perform to get it working?09:06
bobbydwhen i update my kernel, my nvidia binary driver stops working09:06
hkaissoundray: could you help me with my problem?09:06
bobbydwhat do i need to do to get it to work again afeter a kernel upgrade?09:06
ompaulPygi, would you mind telling me how you ended up in this mess?09:06
gonzalocorteswe need information about web cam services in Ubuntu09:06
noaXessubotu: tell noaxess about kernel-source09:07
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; console type ndiswrapper -i /mnt/cdrom0/Driver/bcmwl5.inf09:07
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soundrayhkais, if you don't need anything else from the restricted modules, try 'sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'09:07
bobbydgonzalocortes, webcams show as "video for linux" devices if they're suppored09:07
Pygiompaul: well, I've been creating several patches to gnome, and I applied them...but none of them were in any way related with gnome-panel09:07
Pygiand patches actually work :-P09:07
gonzalocortesthanks bobbyd, but where I could found that?09:08
gonzalocortesI am new in this09:08
ompaulPygi, remove them and see what happens :)09:08
christianmortalthat file is not on the cd rom09:08
Pygiompaul: tried...won't work ...09:08
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; thats not good...09:08
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christianmortalwell there are only .sys files09:09
_robindoes that one work? that removegnome?09:09
Pygiompaul: I've tried a lot of things, but the solution must be simple, just I can't remember :-P09:09
ompaulPygi, well you have done something, it looks like kill off gnome and reinstall it, and this time build a dev version to break09:09
gonzalocortessomebody plz, can said me how can I made work my web cam on ubuntu?09:09
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xbox_skyxbmc dev, hhahah what a joke...09:09
cratel2trying to get DRI working on a via graphics card. Do I have to recompile the kernel? Please say no...09:09
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bimberi_robin: i've never done it - it's a prebby serious apt-get remove command though :)09:09
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; thats where my knowledge stops, becuase i am at this end of the globe and you on the other..09:10
bimberi*pretty09:10
cratel2if I *do* have to recompile the kernel, can I find the standard options which were used when the Breezy kernel was made?09:10
bimberiubotu tell gonzalocortes about webcam09:10
_robini think removing KDE is better09:10
_robinerm09:10
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_robinGTK*09:10
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christianmortalwell can i not download the driver09:10
Xenguy!tell gonzalocortes about webcam09:10
joey222hey guys, am back. been away on hoilday09:10
joey222:)09:10
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_robinwhat09:11
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; are you sure there are no inf files on the cdrom?09:11
noaXesshi joey222  nice09:11
_robinwhat's the gtk package?*09:11
noaXess;)09:11
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christianmortalcould the file be hidden09:11
ubuntutestrundont think so , but you can try with nautilus09:12
ubuntutestrunto show hidden files09:12
joey222just came back, have to instal Ubuntu cus as usual my Server 2003 box failed while i was away09:12
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_robinwhat's the gtk package?09:12
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_robinahh, found it09:12
Pygiompaul: k, I just did some changes to patches09:13
Pygilemme restart09:13
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; do an dmesg09:13
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; on console..09:14
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christianmortali get lots of stuff09:14
Curthas anyone put gcompris (educational software) on ubuntu ?09:15
giardis there a package checkin monitor for the dapper packages so you can see as new ones are added and update?09:15
noaXesswhats the newset kernel-headers version?09:15
motowhen i install a program and try to run it, it always says "failed to execute child process. no such file or directory"09:15
motoany ideas?09:15
christianmortallots about irq 10 being disabled09:15
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noaXessi hav installed 2.6.11.2 but my kernel is 2.6.12-1009:16
motodo i need to chmod it?09:16
Curtmoto I have same problem09:16
christianmortaltells me i need the driver rt2xx from serial monkey09:16
mansoorI want to run GPRS over Bluetooth09:16
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christianmortaltells me that ra0 has no ipv6 routers present09:17
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Pygiompaul: guess what :P09:18
FarrisGEvery once in a while, a user or two will have the group write bit turned on for his entire home directory, and none of these users ever remembers doing it himself. I have no scripts that run as root. Any idea what could be causing this?09:18
Pygiompaul: it still refuses to work :/09:18
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; hehe09:18
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; well, i am looking around to see if i can get an other way..09:19
ompaulPygi, you borked it, your code - rebuild a clean install and a dev install - then you can dd clean over dev when you bork it again09:19
ompaulPygi, subversion09:19
antisocial_borisif i want to move my /home and /swap partitions to an external hard drive all i have to do is create these partions on the hd, copy everything over then change /etc/fstab right?09:19
christianmortalwhats wrong with the sys file09:19
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ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; are you sure that this : Belkin 54g card F5D7010 is the card?09:19
deefzinative english speakers: "attourney in law" or "attourney at law"09:20
kehermanhey guys, im going to upgrade an entire school lab (25 PCs) from RHEL3 to Ubuntu Breezy -- any pointers for using LDAP and mounting remote /home with the existing server setup?09:20
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deefzi-u sorry09:20
ashyghe guys whenever i restart for the third time after installing ubuntu i get a GRUB error 1309:20
ashygis there a way to make it install LILO instead?09:20
mweashyg: what's error 13?09:21
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kehermanI'm wondering what the proper way to install/partition if I am going to remotely mount the server's /home directory??09:21
ashygerror 15*09:21
ashygnot 13, sorry09:21
christianmortal100% sure09:21
christianmortalits a version 309:21
mweashyg: what does it indicate?09:21
kehermanmwe, google it09:22
ashygfile not found mwe09:22
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Wibble-My monitor returns incorrect DDC information about what it supports (and omits some DDC information such as the horiz/vert refresh rate).  I know what the monitor supports from the web (and having seen it running on this monitor previously).  Can I make xorg ignore the DDC info returned by my monitor?09:22
ashygi've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times09:22
mwekeherman: why would I do that? I'm not having it09:22
ashygand without fail, the third time i boot i get a GRUB error 1509:22
Pygiompaul: can you guess the "so obvious" solution? :)))09:22
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mweashyg: so is your menu.lst correct? did you update or something? what happened before it broke?09:23
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kehermanashyg, does this computer have a recovery software on the hard drive?09:23
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ashygno sir09:23
kehermanashyg, what PC is it?09:23
ashygi haven't done anything09:23
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ashygwhat do you mean what PC09:23
shad0w1ehow do I view all iptables rules??09:23
kehermanashyg, is it from a manufacturer?09:23
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kehermanor custom built?09:23
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ashygcustom09:23
mweashyg: so this error just suddenly appeared? not that I doubt it09:24
kehermanashyg, ok so there is no recovery partition good09:24
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kehermanashyg, last time it worked was when?09:24
ashygyes mwe, it suddenly appears... like i said, i can reinstall ubuntu then the third time i boot it it happens09:24
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christianmortalHey Ubuntutestrun i have another card handy09:24
ashygkeherman: never09:24
ompaulashyg, search for "Invalid or unsupported executable format" on this http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.txt09:24
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christianmortalIts a DLINK DWL 61009:24
kehermanashyg, this is a first time install?09:24
mweashyg: hmm.09:24
christianmortalhow about we try that one09:24
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christianmortalno driver disk though09:24
ashygkeherman: the first time ubuntu was installed on this system, it occured on the third boot09:24
mweashyg: can you mount the partition from a live cd or something?09:24
ashygso i reinstalled09:24
ashygand it keeps happening09:25
christianmortalbut i guess we can download the driver from the wiki09:25
ashygi don't have a live cd i am going to use the install cd to install lilo09:25
kehermanashyg, did you format the ENTIRE DISK?09:25
ashygi have four hard disks09:25
ashygone is my windows one09:25
Stormx2Could someone give me a hand with connecting to a server using GNOME's "Connect to server" functionality and samba?09:25
ashygthe other is my ubuntu one09:25
ashygthe other two are for data09:25
ompaulashyg, do you do updated after the second boot?09:25
kehermanashyg, sounds like your boot loader is choosing the wrong one then -- is it SERIAL ATA?09:25
ashygno, none are SATA, all IDE09:25
ompaulashyg, do you do updates after the second boot?09:25
ashygno, ompaul i can't get online09:26
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; i have to go, battery is running low09:26
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christianmortalok cheers buddy thanks for the help09:26
anto9usStormx2, you need smbfs installed09:26
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; try the other card, and boot it up, if the light goes in you got something going...09:26
noaXessha.. found it09:26
ashygguys i gotta go to class09:26
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Stormx2anto9us: It half works. i know that.09:26
ashygplease PM me with any ideas i will be back in 2 hrs09:26
noaXessslavik: it is linux-headers .. then all is in /usr/src.. :)09:27
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; here is an other url http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List09:27
anto9usStormx2, what's the problem?09:27
antisocial_borisdamn, i just ran cfdisk and got a fatal error, bad logical partition, enlarged partitions overlap09:27
Stormx2anto9us: Im just unsure about the data that needs to fill in. It constantly asks me for a password, even when I hit cancel.09:27
antisocial_borisanything i can do ?09:27
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noaXessslavik: and now my vmware workstation runs.. :)09:27
ubuntutestruni was reading this , to get an answer to the problem09:27
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BrickMakerhow can i get XML::Simple Perl Module09:27
ompaulashyg, what o/s are on that box?09:27
ashygBrickMaker: use cpan09:28
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; to bad that we could not get it running, good luck anyway09:28
Jarrettedoes anyone know how i can start a lone application via a gdm session and have it use the fullscreen instead of just a corner? aven when i try to go fullscreen after the application loads, it still just uses the corner09:28
ashygompaul: windows xp home, ubuntu09:28
anto9usStormx2, I find it best to create a permanent mount for a windows share09:28
ompaulashyg, what are you booting between the boots of Ubuntu09:28
christianmortalCan anyone help me to install a Belkin F5D710 with NDISWRAPPER09:28
ashygwindows09:28
Stormx2anto9us: The options are "Server", "Share", "Folder", "User Name", "Domain Name". The URL is https://folders.st-bartholomews.w-berks.sch.uk/easylink/wf.stb-sr-002.s/2002/02GALEB and the username is 02galeb09:28
BrickMakerashyg, i'm trying to configure the icon theme its not compiling because don't have XML::Simple Perl Module09:28
BrickMakerso cpan is "XML::Simple Perl Module"?09:28
ashygBrickMaker: type cpan09:28
christianmortalCan anyone help me to install a Belkin F5D710 with NDISWRAPPER09:28
ashygthen it will open a prompt09:28
ashygyou might need to sudo cpan09:28
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; by hte way, you are immortal, the soul lives on!09:28
ashygi've never used cpan on ubuntu, only on suse09:28
ashygso open cpan09:28
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ashyginstall XML::Simple09:29
ashygquit09:29
ashygtada09:29
ashyg:)09:29
ompaulashyg, so is it suggesting that there is a problem with the file system and fixing it?09:29
christianmortalnot if i dont get this wlan working im not09:29
BrickMakerhmm ok09:29
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; LOL09:29
anto9usStormx2, https is not a valid samba share09:29
kehermanashyg, what FS did you install?09:29
ubuntutestrunchristianmortal ; bye bye09:29
ashygompaul: no, it isn't - i've really got to get going now or i will be late09:29
ashygkeherman: ext309:29
christianmortalsee ya buddy09:29
Stormx2anto9us: i removed the https, and it worked fine09:29
ashygi really gotta go guys, be back in 2 hrs please pm me with any ideas09:29
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Stormx2anto9us: Cept it kept asking me for a password09:29
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Knowerrors Anybody here use dialup modem for internet access, and have v92 modem on hold / net waiting , working on Linux?09:30
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mrproperHow do I get lame in Breezy?09:30
BrickMakerCPAN build and cache directory? [/home/saif/.cpan] 09:30
BrickMakerwhat path i should provide there?09:31
arcadeHm09:31
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ompaulmrproper, you would need multiverse enabled09:31
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arcadeHow do I loopback-mount a file?  It's encrypted with twofish256 - under SuSE, and contains an ext3 filesystem.  I need the syntax.09:31
mrproperompaul, Okay thanks.09:31
anto9usStormx2, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?highlight=%28windows%2909:32
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BrickMakerKnowerrors, i have v56 modem09:32
arcadeNever done it manually, and I'm not able to mount it atm. :-/09:32
mrproperompaul, I do have multiverse.09:32
arcade.. Just moved the file to Ubuntu :-/09:32
BrickMakerKnowerrors, you can say its v9209:32
pixelfairyanyone else having really slow downloads from the us archives?09:32
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anto9usStormx2, I find the connect to server doesn't work well with samba shares09:32
lolhi09:32
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Scrammrproper: then aptitude install lame should work09:32
ompaulmrproper, so install it - sudo apt-get install lame09:32
mrproperPackage lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.09:33
mrproperThis may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or09:33
mrproperis only available from another source09:33
noaXessdoes anybody know, when the firefox and thunderbird 1.5 package for ubuntu is abailable?09:33
ompaulmrproper, so install it - apt-cache search lame | less for more ideas09:33
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ompaulmrproper, do this: apt-cache policy lame09:33
BrickMakerhow can i install XML::Simple Perl Module09:33
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KnowerrorsBrickMaker: you get netwaiting working on it?09:33
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ompaulmrproper, what result?09:34
mrproperlame:09:34
mrproper  Installed: (none)09:34
mrproper  Candidate: (none)09:34
mrproper  Version table:09:34
BrickMakerKnowerrors, netwaiting .. idk abt it..09:34
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shad0w1ehow do I add iptables rules to startup?09:34
ompaulmrproper, so you do not have multiverse09:34
_jasonmrproper: don't paste and you need to enable multiverse09:34
BrickMakerXML::Simple Perl Module how can i get ?09:35
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ompaulmrproper, read the instructions from ubotu09:35
homerHello09:35
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coolboyhow do I shut down from terminal?09:35
homerI have a problem  using the Live CD09:35
anto9usshad0w1e, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo09:35
Pygicoolboy:  halt or shutdown09:35
FireAndRaincoolboy: sudo shutdown -h now09:35
_jasonBrickMaker: maybe libxml-simple-perl ?09:35
homerI inserted a flash drive in my computer09:35
coolboythx09:36
ompaulshad0w1e, you don't need to unless you are running services that need filters on them09:36
KnowerrorsBrickMaker: umm, modem on hold, you know if you have call waiting and youre online, you can take a phone call and put your net connection on the wait09:36
homerbut it is mounted as read only09:36
Stormx2anto9us: OK >.< I guess I messed up09:36
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Stormx2anto9us: It wasn't samba I was talking about, it was WebDAV09:36
homerit says I must be root to do have write access09:36
BrickMakerKnowerrors, i never try this on ubuntu..09:36
mrproperThanks09:36
homerwhat is the root password for Ubuntu and how to I log in as root09:36
_jasonubotu: tell homer about root09:36
ompaul!tell homer about rootsudo09:36
BrickMaker_jason, check these.. and read the requirements http://tango-project.org/Installation09:36
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gustaf_is there anyway to change the terminal font to something that isn't antialiased? like 7x1409:37
mrproperYay, installing thanks.09:37
zebi still need printer help09:37
anto9usStormx2, webdav should work ok09:37
zebseriously09:37
_jasonBrickMaker: try what I told you09:37
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Stormx2anto9us: yep. cept it keeps asking me for a password09:37
BrickMaker_jason,  Ok boss!09:37
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ompaulhomer, there can be root, but sudo command using your own "strong" password is the way it gets done in ubuntu read the web page ubotu told you about,09:37
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_jasonBrickMaker: I like tango :)09:37
ubuntu_for wich package should I post a bug for one that occurs in flight 3 in general (wrong keyboard when entering french as language)09:38
anto9usStormx2, do you have a valid account on the server?09:38
theSamowould dapper drake have the new mosular X 7?09:38
BrickMakeraight ;)09:38
trappistanto9us: probably locales09:38
zebcan someone give me printer advice09:38
zebPLEASE09:38
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zebI REALLY NEED HELP09:38
_jasonubotu: tell zeb about print09:38
BenCanyone have an exim4 rule for filtering through spamassassin?09:38
BrickMaker_jason, do you have any good theme?09:38
anto9ustrappist, beats me09:38
ompaulzeb, please wait a while there are 656 people here09:38
_jasonBrickMaker: nope, I like default09:38
Stormx2anto9us: Yep09:38
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BrickMakerOkay!09:39
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Stormx2anto9us: It opens up the window, but I'm faced with 3-4 "Authorization Required" dialog boxes09:39
anto9usStormx2, trappist suggests the problem might be locales, is that right trappist?09:39
BrickMaker_jason, will you help to move the gnome task bar.. i want it as Windows Task bar Style..09:39
Stormx2anto9us: When i click cancel or close they come up again about 20 times09:39
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_jasonBrickMaker: sorry I have class now09:40
homerok I didn't understand that09:40
zebthat didnt tell me anything09:40
BrickMakerOkay!09:40
zebmy printer is on there09:40
homerhow do I log in as root on the live cd, specifically?09:40
zebbut its not working right09:40
anto9usStormx2, yes sounds like it's cascading and asking for authenitication in each of the objects in the folder09:40
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progrock!diskmounter09:41
ubotuI heard diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter09:41
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homercan I have that link again09:42
homerthanks09:42
gonzalocortessomebody here speak spanish?09:42
homerI think I get it now09:42
homerthe one about root09:42
Stormx2anto9us: Right. How should I fix that?09:42
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Stormx2anto9us: I may have messed up the keyring, where are the settings for that?09:43
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anto9usStormx2, by authenticating properly on the folder you're connecting to09:43
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Stormx2anto9us: In every single dialog box?09:43
anto9usStormx2, no, just the top one09:43
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Stormx2Then?09:43
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eZehow can I configure the grub boot manager that windows is set as default? (and it should give me 10 seconds to choose)09:44
gonzalocortesis there somebody spanish speaking? or a room like this, available in spanish?09:44
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ubuntu_what am I supposed to write as "distribution" on launchpad to get my bug for dapper?09:44
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ScrameZe: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst09:44
eZealright, thx09:44
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njadvehow do i get a wireless TopCom PCI-card to work with Ubuntu?09:44
progrockAnyone get wireless to work with ipw2200?09:45
ScrameZe: should be more-or-less selfdocumenting...09:45
eZeis everything in there self explanatory?09:45
eZeok, thx :)09:45
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Stormx2anto9us: What then? Cancel all the others?09:45
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ScrameZe: yes... "default" and "timeout" are your whoes09:45
CyorxampLo I installed gphx drivers and ran the config and set my refresh rate too high - now nothing displays - how can I get around it?09:46
anto9usStormx2, wait please, I'm looking into it09:46
Stormx2anto9us: Thankyou so much :)09:46
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homernevermind guys09:46
homerI figured it out09:46
LxSedanhey can someone tell me where i can d/l the build essential package09:46
homerfor anyone else09:46
ubuntu_gonzalocortes : there #ubuntumexico, but the best way to find something else is to search in the channel list something like #ubuntu-something09:47
homergksudo nautilus <--- very useful command09:47
homerallows you to browse nautilus as root09:47
Stormx2homer: yep09:47
homeruntil you close the application09:47
ubuntu_LxSedan : sudo apt-get install build-essential?09:47
ubuntu_LxSedan : or do you want the source?09:47
LxSedanno internet hooked upto it09:47
LxSedando i need it?09:47
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LxSedanall i can do is d/l from this desktop, burn and bring it over09:48
anto9usStormx2, have you test the shared folder from elsewhere?09:48
tim_how do i mount an mdf/mds file in linux?09:49
ubuntu_LxSedan : k... wait a minute I'll find it...09:49
Stormx2anto9us: What do you mean?09:49
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Stormx2anto9us: In FF I can open it, but of course its read only and ugly09:49
Stormx2anto9us: In IE I can access it fine.09:49
CyorxampHey, I installed gphx drivers and ran the config and set my refresh rate too high - now nothing displays - anyone know how can I get around it?09:49
LxSedanubuntugeek: seemed ot type the command and its building or installing it09:49
anto9usStormx2, ok, that's what I meant09:49
katie_ie's icky09:49
ubuntu_LxSedan : go search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for your distribution09:49
ScramLxSedan: apt-chache show build-essential will show you the path on your local mirror...09:49
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KnowerrorsWhats a good gui video editor and converter on linux?09:49
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ScramKnowerrors: kino is not bad, but its DV oriented09:50
ilba7rCyorxamp, is gphx drivers for the x display server09:50
anto9usStormx2, it could be a password problem, sometimes you need to log out of gnome to get it to ask for a fresh one09:50
BrickMakerhey.. how can i install tango icon theme 0.6.609:50
fuzz_and_waterKnowerrors: cinelerra, kino, pitivi, LiVES09:50
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Stormx2anto9us: Good idea.09:50
anto9usStormx2, least that's the way I know to get it to09:50
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Stormx2anto9us: But I think its saved in a "keyring" of sorts?09:51
BrickMakerhow can i install tango icon theme 0.6.6 .......................09:51
Stormx2anto9us: I shall do that anyway ;-) Thanks09:51
anto9usStormx2, yes09:51
rodBrickMaker, checked gnomelook.org?? :)09:51
BrickMakerrod, checked .. i'm trying ./configure and then make09:51
BrickMakerbut its saying make not found09:51
rodare you using ubuntu?09:51
tristanmikeBrickMaker, what is the link?09:51
tim_how do i mount an mdf/mds file in linux?09:51
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homerwhat is the keyboard shortcut to open up help in gnome by default?09:52
rodBrickMaker, if you go to gnomelook.org you can download Tango - suite 1.1 1.109:52
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BrickMakerhttp://tango-project.org/Installation09:52
jeplerHi.  A friend and I are trying to build a modified kernel based on the ubuntu kernel, using build-kpkg.  The kernel .deb we get doesn't include firmware, such as ipw-2.3-boot.fw.  Can someone point me at the documentation I need to read to get the kernel I build to include this file?09:52
Cyorxampilba7r - yeah09:52
fuzz_and_watertim_, you have to convert it to iso first, using mdf2iso09:52
tim_ok thx09:52
rodBrickMaker, just download the package from the site i mentioned, open the theme window and use that install button to install the package09:52
Knowerrorsfuzz_and_water: thx, do any of those covert from one video format to another (demuxing/recoding)09:52
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BrickMakerrod, you know what i'm new i don't know how to install'em really problem for me anyway i have to do it09:52
_dbgltseems my net isn't as fixed as I thought it was09:52
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LxSedansorry guys i'm totally new to linux, how do i get out of the gnome gui to log in as root?09:53
rodBrickMaker, hey that's cool man :) I'm glad I can help09:53
BrickMakerok be with me09:53
fuzz_and_waterknowerrors, theyre mostly for editing & composition, but you could use cinelerra for that.. i would just use transcode or mencoder tho09:53
rodLxSedan, why do you want to log in as root?09:53
tristanmikeBrickMaker, have installed build-essential?09:53
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ilba7rCyorxamp, if so just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg09:53
fuzz_and_waterlxsedan, if youre new to linux, you shouldnt be logging in as root ;)09:53
BrickMakertristanmike, nope09:54
ilba7rand set the refresh rate and driver09:54
LxSedantrying to install ndiswrapper and this guide says i need to be root?09:54
tristanmikeBrickMaker, try installing build-essential through synaptic, that should allow you to use ./configure09:54
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ilba7rLxSedan, just use sudo infornt of each command that need root privlage09:54
LxSedanah ok09:54
Stormx2Nope, logging out and in of gnome did not work.09:54
ubuntu_when I enter the french language, I get the wrong keyboard layout, I think it should ask wich kind of layout I want (there's mainly 2 in french). Wich package could that be to report the bug?09:55
_dbglthow do I remove a package which I have installed fine to stop it from harassing me?09:55
_dbgltjust from apt09:55
_dbglt  eciadsl-usermode: Depends: pppoe but it is not going to be installed09:55
tristanmikeBrickMaker, if you don't mind me asking, what is that you're trying to install?09:55
_dbgltwhenever I try to install anything else, it gives me that line09:55
BrickMakerrod, i have to download manually all files09:55
BrickMakertristanmike, i wanted to change my theme09:55
FarrisGCan anyone help me out with this error I'm getting from openssh? "error: openpty: No such file or directory"09:55
_dbgltthe package installed and works fine (when overriden), but I want to get rid of that warning09:55
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BrickMakertristanmike, and as well as icons09:55
Stormx2gnome has crashed again... greaat09:55
_dbgltanyone?09:55
Cyorxampilba7r - how can I get into anything if it tries to startx everytime?09:55
ubuntu__dbglt : sudo apt-get remove package09:55
_dbgltI don't want to remove it09:56
ilba7rCyorxamp, are you on gnome now09:56
_dbgltI just want to get rid of the warning09:56
tristanmikeBrickMaker, have you visited www.gnome-look.org?09:56
_dbgltwhenever I try to install anything else...09:56
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ubuntu__dbglt : --reinstall then?09:56
Cyorxampilba7r - no09:56
BrickMakeri'm there09:56
_dbgltit is not a ubuntu deb09:56
_dbgltit is a debian one09:56
_dbgltand I had to override09:56
_dbgltthe install works fine09:56
ocoderwhat is the difference between sleep and hibernate?09:56
tristanmikeBrickMaker, or conversely www.kde-look.org09:56
BrickMakerrod, i'm downloading Tango Original09:56
_dbgltit is just giving me that annoying message now09:56
anto9usStormx2, problem might be that it's https?09:56
ocoder1.509:56
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rodBrickMaker, lol....  You really should check out gnomelook.org, click on the tango link and download the tar.gz package which contains all the icons09:56
Cyorxampilba7r - i'm not on anything, when ubuntu is started it auto starts x and monitor goes bad09:56
BrickMakertristanmike, i'm have gnome not kde09:56
Stormx2anto9us: Well, I selected the "https" section on the connect to server09:57
tristanmikeBrickMaker, well, incase you go kde, there it is09:57
ubuntu__dbglt : ho ok, maybe you have two packages installed of the same one? what is that message anyway?09:57
BrickMakerrod, yeah dude i'v dowloaded now what :D09:57
rodBrickMaker, from here? :)  http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=3395909:57
Stormx2gnome has crashed. Is there a quick way to get a terminal up?09:57
ilba7rCyorxamp, ok you can either safe boot. boot into a terminal and run it. If you are already running a display manager press CTRL ALT F! will give you a console log in and set it up from there09:57
BrickMakertristanmike, ok thx!09:57
ocoderwhat is the difference between sleep and hibernate?09:57
_dbgltThe following packages have unmet dependencies:09:57
_dbglt  eciadsl-usermode: Depends: pppoe but it is not going to be installed09:57
rodnow you go to system, prefs, theme BrickMaker09:57
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tristanmikeBrickMaker, If you install that tango thingy, just make sure you have fufilled all the other requirements09:57
katie_you dont dream if you're hibernating09:57
rodBrickMaker, then click install team and browse to your just downloaded file :)09:57
BrickMakerrod, from here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=3126109:57
ilba7rCyorxamp, you can boot from the boot menu to a terminal09:58
ocoderso my computer dreams when it sleeps09:58
Stormx2terminal?09:58
Stormx2Anyone.....09:58
anto9usStormx2, ctrl-alt-backspace will allow you to login again09:58
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Stormx2anto9us: Yeah but i hate having to do that09:58
vesIs there anyway to send a current app running in a terminal to the background?09:58
Cyorxampilba7r - I am just gonna select safe mode on the grub menu09:58
katie_oh? do cmputers sleep?09:58
Scramves: "^Z"09:58
ilba7rCyorxamp, this is booting to a terminal09:58
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Cyorxampilba7r - sorry I don't understand09:58
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AMDXPanto9us: does ctrl-atl-backspace log you out of the other session?09:58
rodBrickMaker, that link is cool too :)09:59
vesScram: you are a god, thank you :)09:59
CythrilCould someone direct me to a tutorial on un-raring a file in Linux?09:59
Scramves: or, start with screen from the beginning09:59
anto9usAMD_XP, it kills x-server09:59
katie_sudo apt-get install rar09:59
BrickMakerrod, lol... i have download   (Icon set) ..09:59
ilba7rCyorxamp, using the safe mode is right from grub09:59
katie_right click extract?09:59
vesScram: yeah, I've ran an unscreened irssi by accident and the loose terminal was annoying me :)09:59
katie_well thats how i do ti09:59
Cyorxampilba7r - yeah I know 'Recovery Mode' is loaded09:59
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ocoderin the shutdown dialog for dapper drake there are two options sleep and hibernate. what is the differenct09:59
Scramves: ^Z only "suspends" the current application... using fg and bg you can put it into the foreground again... or let it run in the background09:59
Cyorxampilba7r - what is it I should type to get my old xorg.conf file back?09:59
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CyorxampI will re-configure from scratch10:00
anto9usocoder, sleep suspends to ram, hibernate suspends to disk10:00
ilba7rCyorxamp, you will not get it back unless you backed it up10:00
ubuntu_ocoder : I also have this question... have you tried both?10:00
Cyorxampilba7r - :S10:00
ilba7rbut look under the following dir you might find it10:00
LxSedanthe guide says i need to run ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build do i just replace the version with 2.6.2-9-386?10:00
vesScram: Ah I see what you mean, cheers again though it was exactly what I needed10:00
ilba7r/etc/X1110:00
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metalsandHow can I uninstall drivers?10:00
ilba7rCyorxamp, the file is xorg.conf10:00
metalsandUbuntu by defualt installed the wrong drivers for my wireless card10:00
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ocoderthanks10:01
Cyorxampilba7r - yeah I can see xorg.conf10:01
Stormx2X Died and I rebooted.10:01
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fulldisclosureHi, I have a problem, I cant burn an audio-CD, serpentine crashes just at the first try of file converting.10:01
Cyorxamp:S10:01
fulldisclosureIs this a known problem?10:02
ilba7rCyorxamp, if there is a back up or old one it will be xorg.conf~10:02
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pderUBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER SYSTEM10:02
Cyorxampilba7r, nope does not exist10:02
sobersabrehi are there any openoffice.org 2.0 packages for ubuntu ? ( not 1.9xxx )10:02
sobersabrepder wtf is your problem ?10:02
sobersabrehm.. sorry for the bad lang..10:02
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fulldisclosuresobersabre: Yes, indeed is the stable version in stable Ubuntu.10:02
ompaulpder, (A) do not use capitals, (B) define your problem in detail10:02
Cyorxampsobersabre: I thought 5.10 (breezy badger) came with OOo2 ?10:02
ilba7rCyorxamp, so you have to reconfigure or edit it if you know how to do that. safest is the command i sent you10:02
ompaulfulldisclosure, not that I know about10:02
Pygicyorxamp: well, u were wrong :)10:03
Cyorxampilba7r - can you repeat?10:03
sobersabreCyorxamp it comes with a 1.9xxx build, not 2.0 or latest 2.0.110:03
ompaulfulldisclosure, then I don't use serpentine10:03
drbrowndoes anyone know what could be causing my 2 printers to print one line on each page, and each line is just a string of characters????10:03
fulldisclosureompaul: Can you take a look for serpentine and try to reproduce my error?10:03
slavikCyorxamp: ooo2 beta10:03
ubuntu_sobersabre : well for breezy I think there's some in backport... but in dapper (release for april) there should be 2.010:03
slavikwhich is 1.910:03
slavikdapper will have 2.0.110:03
fulldisclosureompaul: Gnomebaker doesn't work too.10:03
fulldisclosureSeems to be a gstreamer issue.10:03
Scramdrbrown: wrong driver... the characters are beginning with a % ?10:03
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slavikcheck distrowatch.com :)10:03
ilba7rompaul do you happen to know if making a presnetation using a laptop on which linux is installed need a program or tweek to hook it to a data projector?10:04
drbrownscram: i believe so10:04
Cyorxampilba7r - can you repeat?10:04
LasseLsobersabre, do you know if you can upgrade to OOo2 in breezy?10:04
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drbrownscram: it also prints a lot of pages10:04
sobersabreI am happy for all of you.. ubuntu_ how can I check if there's a backport of ooo2.0 for breezy ?10:04
slavikilba7r: you just need dual monitor support10:04
Scramdrbrown: i'd guess you send raw postscript data to the printer... and the printer does print the code10:04
slaviksobersabre: in the repo?10:04
drbrownscram: let me check10:04
ilba7rslavik ok how to do that10:04
sobersabreLasseL I/you can simply use the vanilla version from the site. but I want dpkg/apt do some work10:04
ilba7rCyorxamp, if so just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg10:05
fulldisclosureonverting files failed10:05
fulldisclosureWriting to disc didn't start so it is still usable.10:05
slavikilba7r: can you get dual monitor working on your laptop?10:05
ompaulilba7r, I have done it with ooo no extra messing10:05
sobersabreI am trying to use these in /etc/apt/sources.list10:05
ubuntu_sobersabre : google for backport, check if the ooo2.0 package is there, and if so, add backport to your sources.list for apt and install it :)10:05
fulldisclosureompaul: This is the error I get in serpentine.10:05
Scramdrbrown: its due to the fact unix only sends "new line" for a new line... not "new line" and "carriage return" - so the 2nd,3rd... lines are printed way out beyond the border10:05
fulldisclosureompaul: Can you take a look please?10:05
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ilba7rslavik i have a T42 running ati driver card is ati 9600 do not know how to set two monitors10:05
tristanmikesobersabre, there is a sources.list line10:05
ilba7rompaul whait is ooo10:06
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slavikilba7r: I can't help you, sorry. You'll have to try searching google or the wiki ...10:06
ilba7rompaul, do you mean you just hooked up the projector10:06
ompaulfulldisclosure, looking10:06
sobersabreI have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse10:06
sobersabreand10:06
fulldisclosureompaul: Thanks.10:06
ilba7rslavik thank you for the help you provided so far :)10:06
sobersabredeb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse10:06
drbrownscram: how can I fix the issue????10:06
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sobersabreare these wrong ?10:06
ompaulilba7r, with several computers Open Office10:06
tristanmikesobersabre, there is a OO.org2 specific line10:06
Stormx2uhg10:07
Stormx2>_<10:07
slavikilba7r: if you have dual monitor support, you shouldn't have any issues10:07
ompaulsobersabre, if your using breezy yes10:07
sobersabrehmm... tristanmike where "there"10:07
Stormx2Where are keyring settings stored anyone?10:07
sobersabre?10:07
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tristanmikesobersabre, check out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic for the lines to add10:07
sobersabrethanks.10:07
Scramdrbrown: select an different driver for the printer... so that it generates data thats in the printer's language...10:07
tristanmikesobersabre, be careful with them10:07
ompaulslavik, did not need any special tweeking on dell / ibm / $lappy10:07
ilba7rslavik will search do not know if i need to edit xorg.conf but thanks. The card support double monitor support10:07
fulldisclosureompaul: Did you finish?10:08
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ompaulfulldisclosure, no I have mine set to be real slow did 3 tracks I think it is almost done10:08
ompaulyeap it is done10:08
ompaulnow I try to play10:08
ilba7rompaul, thanks though am afraid all presentations are in pdf. Will back them up on windows in case linux fail me10:08
slavikompaul: I don't have those, I am waiting for my HP though :)10:08
fulldisclosureompaul: Breezy actualiced?10:08
ompaulilba7r, then use evince10:09
slavikilba7r: you'll prolly need to edit or configure xorg ...10:09
ompaulfulldisclosure, so it appears, if you wait a moment I will test it10:09
fulldisclosureompaul: Is there any non default installed library needed?10:09
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ilba7rthanx ompaul and slavik. I have adope installed so no problem there10:09
ilba7rok take care guys and thanx10:09
drbrownscram: i have selected each driver available for my printer, and it still does the same thing10:09
slavikilba7r: just use adobe ...10:09
sobersabretristanmike what a great LINK!!! :)10:10
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fulldisclosureompaul: My error is just when I put a mp3 in project, and click "Write to disk", then I obtain the message, that cannot be converted10:10
tristanmikesobersabre, np10:10
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Scramdrbrown: you try the test page?10:10
dbgltwhat is the best way to go about enabling write-access on an NTFS partition under linux?10:10
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dbglt(ubuntu, to be precise :) )10:10
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tristanmikedbglt, you DON'T want to do that10:10
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AMDXPdbglt: you can do that???10:11
ompaulfulldisclosure, well if it is already a file it should not need anything to make it available to the disk other than a start and end - did you choose the file type?10:11
tristanmikedbglt, let me restate that....you DON'T want to do that10:11
drbrownscram: yes10:11
omerixi couldn't open floppy10:11
dbglterrm10:11
dbgltI've heard write-enabled NTFS works fine10:11
omerixhow can i open floppy?10:11
dbgltwas I mistaken?10:11
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Toadstooldbglt: you can try to compile your own kernel with NTFS write support but do it at your own risks10:11
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tristanmikedbglt, yes, you can read ntfs, but can't write with out HUGE risk of corruption10:11
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dbgltusermode NTFS is read-only?10:12
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tristanmikedbglt, from Linux, yest10:12
ompauldbglt, and when your ntfs dies will #windows help you restore it, or will they cast you into the darkenss?10:12
fulldisclosureompaul: File type for what?10:12
AMDXPyeah i heard that writing NTFS was still experimental and possibly bad things could happen10:12
Scramdbglt: as far as i know there is a fuse ntfs driver that uses wine to import about all of NTFS from windows to do it exactly the way windows does... but thats in beta testing...10:12
metalsandDoes anyone know if ethereal captures ALL wireless packets or just the network you're connected to?10:12
tristanmikelol @ ompaul10:12
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fulldisclosureompaul: I just selected some mp3, and click "Write disk", and then I got that error:10:12
ompaulfulldisclosure, for the type of file you try to burn10:12
dbgltScram: ah, perhaps that was what I had heard about.10:12
fulldisclosureonverting files failed10:12
fulldisclosureWriting to disc didn't start so it is still usable.10:13
slavikmetalsand: you want kismet for wardriving :)10:13
fulldisclosureompaul: ?10:13
tristanmikedbglt, you can read/write to fat3210:13
fulldisclosureompaul: That's absurd...10:13
progrockI'm running ubuntu in vware on windows... hwo do I go between ubuntu back to windows10:13
metalsandslavik: I can't get kismet to work :(10:13
metalsandslavik: But on the bright side, I got my resolution to work :D10:13
slavikmetalsand: that sucks10:13
pderWHY ARE UBUNTU NOT SUPPORT NTFS WRITE IT ARE NOT WORK10:13
dbgltyes I know that, thanks10:13
BrickMakerrod, i have change the icon them to tango original but nothing happend... even the icons are now default10:13
ompaulfulldisclosure, it was an option I choose10:13
slavikafaik, ethereal only monitors the connection from your side10:13
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Scramdbglt:  that project is called "captive" http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/10:13
tristanmikepder, weren't you kicked for being a nusence?10:14
dbgltI've been running linux for a while, just new to ubuntu... and to NTFS partitions10:14
rodBrickMaker, how did you change?10:14
dbgltScram: I'll have a look over it, thanks10:14
steven_can somone help me, i have a folder with install-sh and configure, how do i install this program10:14
BrickMakerrod, i just install theme10:14
drbrownscram: is that the prob?????10:14
pdertristanmike NO10:14
ompaulpder, STOP USING CAPITALS - it is considered to be shouting, ask microsoft to put the spec in the public domain and maybe it can10:14
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tristanmikepder, stop with the all caps please10:14
rodBrickMaker, how?10:14
Scramdrbrown: i'd try the list of printer drivers of similar models...10:14
Scramdrbrown: what model do you have?10:14
metalsandslavik: You have any knowledge about wireless PCMCIA cards?10:15
rodBrickMaker, Does Tango show up in the Icons list from that Theme window?10:15
pdertristanmike: GET AN IRC CLIENT THAT WILL CONVERT MY MESSAGES TO LOWER CASE10:15
BrickMakerrod, and then go to icons theme there i see Tango Original so i click on it and system loads but nothing happend..10:15
Stormx2pder: The fact is that microsoft made a poor file system. And writing too it is very very differcult and unstable10:15
metalsandI'm trying to install the linux-wlan-ng drivers over the default driver installation ubuntu gave10:15
rodBrickMaker, try to re-login perhaps10:15
drbrownscram: laserjet 400010:15
Stormx2pder: No, just reach your pinky over to the caps lock10:15
metalsandBecause Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for my card10:15
tristanmikepder, or....stop using caps, it's a bannable offence, lol10:15
drbrownscram: and photosmart 715010:15
ScramStormx2,pder : and undocumented10:15
BrickMakerrod, re-login .. mean restart my system?10:15
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slavikmetalsand: not really10:15
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steven_can somone help me, i have a folder with install-sh and configure, how do i install this program10:15
rodBrickMaker, log out and log in again : D10:15
Stormx2Scram: Hmm?10:16
Scramdrbrown: i think theres a laserjet 4000 L , too - you havent selected that by mistake?10:16
ompaulfulldisclosure, I can't play it back but it did burn :-/10:16
LxSedani'm getting a cant' find kernel source10:16
Stormx2Scram: Oh right ;-)10:16
dbgltStormx2: I'd have assumed it was the lack of documentation, rather than the failings in the filesystem which have led to poor support... or else FAT systems would sitll not be supported!10:16
dbglt*still, too10:16
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fulldisclosureompaul: Thanks.10:16
fissyNTFS has lots of nice features10:16
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Scramdbglt: well... its both ;) FAT isnt that hard to reverse-engineer... NTFS is, obviously10:17
drbrownscram: no I have not selected 4000 L10:17
BrickMakeri will do this later because if i do now so i will lose internet access i don't waste to many calls ... because i'm on dialup10:17
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celenkHow do I mount my Ubuntu hard drive in mepislivecd so it can view the files?  It auto-mounted my windows hard drive, and can view that fine, but the ubuntu one can't10:17
BrickMakerrod, anyway thx!10:17
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drbrownscram: each page does not start w/ the same character either10:17
steven_can somone help me with this error, when trying to install a program? configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***10:17
metalsandtest10:17
fissycelenk, do you know what device name your ubuntu install is on?10:17
rodBrickMaker, sry if i couldnt help more10:18
BrickMakerrod, lol10:18
mwecelenk: mkdir -p /mnt/?d?? && mount /dev/?d?? /mnt/?d??10:18
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tristanmikesteven_, looks like you need that library, search for it in synaptic and see if you can install10:18
celenkfissy, well it looks like it tried to automount it, /dev/hdd510:18
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thefamousnomohello people!10:18
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MisterNhi10:18
fissycelenk, do you know why it failed?10:18
fissydmesg | grep hd10:19
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celenkfissy, it says it can't determine the filesystem type, and none was specified10:19
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fissythat's not good10:19
thefamousnomocan anyone shed any light...10:19
steven_tristanmike, i can't find glib10:19
BrickMakerrod, you having any gtk style theme?10:19
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Scramdrbrown: hmm... really troublsome - HP Laserjet 4000 ought to understand Postscript10:20
thefamousnomorunning breezy on thinkpad 600, cpu usage seems to be constantly parked between 10-25%10:20
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fissycelenk, did you load up mepis live because your ubuntu won't boot?10:20
celenkfissy, it did, however, mount /dev/hdd1 as ubuntu's /boot I believe, and I can look in that fine10:20
thefamousnomonothing special on machine, basic install...10:20
thefamousnomoany ideas?10:20
idefixhey guys, I installed some programming with apt-get, sort of got it working but couldn't log in anymore with my root account, then I removed it with apt-get remove and still I cannot log in, what is going on here?10:20
mwethefamousnomo: run top to see what's causing it10:20
tristanmikesteven_, what are you trying to install?10:20
idefixmwe, who me?10:20
celenkfissy, well, I re-installed windows on my first hard drive, and I was looking to re-set up grub10:20
steven_tristanmike, a plugin for xmms, http://ducts.27b-6.de/cdcover/10:21
idefixno thefamousnomo..10:21
celenkfissy, because windows loads by default now10:21
galgozI have a pentium 64bit system and was thinking of installing ubuntu 64bit.  are there any concerns I should have?10:21
rodBrickMaker, I like this a lot: http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=2298910:22
metalsandwhat's the apt-get package name for java runtime environment with the plug-in for Firefox10:22
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BrickMakerrod, ok let me check it ;)10:22
nate__hey10:22
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Scramdrbrown: sorry - no clue... perhaps you can change some setting on the printer itself10:22
tristanmikesteven_, are you running Breezy?10:22
metalheddis ubuntu's init system identical to debian?10:22
nate__i need a quick bit of help, is there a BASH command to see what hardware is currently in use?10:22
steven_tristanmike, yea10:22
metalsandwhat's the apt-get package name for java runtime environment with the plug-in for Firefox10:22
metalheddI'm having trouble with some services not starting at boot and I'm not sure where to look.10:23
metalheddthe graphical clients are no help10:23
MickMcMack:x10:23
timfroststeven_, install libglib2.0-dev10:23
MickMcMack!jav10:23
ubotuI haven't a clue, MickMcMack10:23
MickMcMack!java10:23
ubotuTo install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs10:23
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thefamousnomomwe: xorg seems to be draining cpu & memory resources!10:23
galgozhello all10:23
metalsand!javadebs10:23
tristanmikesteven_, right, my bad, you need the -dev version when compiling10:23
thefamousnomois this down to gui?10:23
drbrownscram: the only thing that is strange, is that I get the same basic behavior from both hp printers10:23
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galgozanyone have experience with ubuntu 64bit?10:23
BrickMakerrod, yeah that one is kinda decent10:23
|PecK|hey, is it possible to dual boot 2 linux distros?10:23
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galgozI have a pentium 64bit system and was thinking of installing ubuntu 64bit.  are there any concerns I should have?10:23
galgozpeck: it sure is10:24
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steven_tristanmike, i got it, it was in the repo's10:24
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CyorxampCan ubuntu play mp3's out of the box?10:24
BrickMakerrod, i downloaded that but i don't know how to install the menu addon10:24
drbrownscram: it thank you for your help10:24
MisterNgalgoz: i'm using it on a amd machine.10:24
drbrownscram: I thank you for your help10:24
rodBrickMaker, me neither :)10:24
fissycelenk, can you list all the disk devices on that system?10:24
galgozmisterN: are there any concerns I should have?10:24
MisterNgalgoz: i'm having problems indeed.10:25
celenkfissy, ?10:25
BrickMakerrod, lol... i just wanted to give my desktop look like that theme10:25
thefamousnomomwe: would a different gui make any odds to the running of the machine?10:25
galgozmrN: hmmm, I was afraid of that after reading the forums10:25
CyorxampCan ubuntu play mp3's out of the box?10:25
celenkfissy, you mean my two hard drives?  /dev/hdc (windows) and /dev/hdd (ubuntu) ?10:25
thefamousnomomwe: xubuntu?10:25
galgozcyorxamp: I think so10:25
nate__Cyorxamp, nope10:25
Scramdrbrown: no problem... - you could play with drivers (i once had the feeling you better close the dialog , reopen it and then print the testpage...)10:25
BrickMakerrod, because i don't like 2 task bar ... i want it like windows Xp has10:25
gplgplmy ubuntu dapper don't play midi file can you help me?10:25
CyorxampThats it, I'm bloody reformatting10:25
fissycelenk, and their partitions10:25
nate__Cyorxamp, you need to get the gstreamer0.8-mad lib10:25
|PecK|galgoz: should I just mnt the second distro in a folder like /distro2 ? must I create it? does it have to be in a second partition?10:25
Cyorxampthis is just stupid10:26
MisterNgalgoz: many things are not easily available (there is always the chroot option though), other than that many things are not really stable10:26
timfrost!mp310:26
ubotufrom memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats10:26
galgozpeck: pretty sure it has to be on a partition of its own, I would recommend a seperate hard disk10:26
ompaulfulldisclosure, it has worked for me10:26
nate__Cyorxamp, it's not that hard, just enable universe and multiverse repositories and look for gstreamer0.8-mad10:26
Cyorxampthey are already enabled10:26
galgozmrN: ok, I will install the 32bit version10:26
fissycelenk,  ls /dev/{hd,sd}[a-d] [1-10] 10:26
ompaulfulldisclosure, silly me was trying to open it as a filesystem - now all I burnt was ogg files - have no truck with those mp3 things10:27
thefamousnomoanyone have any ideas? xorg seems to be draining my resources... would a gui change help? xubuntu?10:27
fulldisclosureompaul: but you burn as audio cd?10:27
ompaulfulldisclosure, yes and it plays in cd player10:27
galgozogg is good10:27
BrickMakerrod, you know how to change splash ?10:28
ompaulgalgoz, :-)10:28
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AMDXPthefamousnomo: it may10:28
|PecK|thx galgoz! by the way, can i easily resize an existing fs3 partition? or is fat32 easier to resize?10:28
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ompaulthefamousnomo, what speed and class of processor have you go?10:28
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BradMhaha10:29
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BradMmy new ubuntu 5.10 dics just arrived10:29
BradM:D10:29
celenkfissy, I'm not sure what you're asking.  If I do ls /dev/hdd it lists /dev/hdd, if I do ls /dev/hdd1 it lists /dev/hdd110:29
ompaulBradM, no #comedy is 41st channel on the left10:29
thefamousnomoompaul: pentium 2, 266 i think, 333 at a push!10:29
galgozpeck: the partition tool in the installs usually do a good job, but you can use gparted to set your freespace ahead of time10:29
Cyorxampnate__ - ok I installed it using synaptic but this 'Totem' thing still can't find a decoder for my mp3 file10:29
BradMompaul, what?10:29
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ompaulthefamousnomo, then do, >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop <<10:29
Cyorxampnate__ - don't tell me I have to run some funky program in terminal to configure it as well :?10:30
ompaulBradM, you came into the channel with haha :-)10:30
galgozi use xmms to play my mp3's10:30
fissycelenk, if you run that command, it should show you all the hard drive devices your system has attached including their partition structure10:30
ownerdownload all the gstreamer plugins cyorxamp10:30
metalsandWhat is the command to search reposotries for files?10:30
BradMompaul, and? is that a crime?10:30
|PecK|galgoz: thx m810:30
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idefixwhy do ubuntu programmers think in such a different way?10:30
fissycelenk, do you remember when you installed ubuntu if you let chose an option like LVM?10:30
Cyorxampowner - I could only see one10:30
metalsandIf I was using Seveas' repo to find a version of Java10:30
DXonly english speakers10:30
metalsandWhat would I search for10:30
ompaulBradM, only if it is the day that you got your Ubuntu 5.10 cds :-)10:30
galgozubunty lets you choose LVM10:30
BradM:(10:30
thefamousnomoompaul: ill give it a go m8!10:30
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ownerubotu tell cyorxamp about restricted10:30
thefamousnomoone more before i go...10:30
celenkfissy, ah, here's the output/dev/hda1  /dev/hdc1  /dev/sda1  /dev/sdc110:30
celenk/dev/hdb1  /dev/hdd1  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdd110:30
idefixare ubuntu programmers like Vegans? or more like mensans?10:30
ompaulBradM, come on man, your leg has been pulled10:31
thefamousnomodoes anyone have any experience with thinkpad 600 sound?10:31
BradMyes10:31
celenkfissy, I'm not sure =\ I think I just did mostly default answers10:31
BradMi need surgery now :(10:31
ompaulhaha10:31
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fissycelenk, ok, i'm confused, apparently you have 8 hard drive/cdrom devices :s10:31
idefixis it that bad?10:31
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thefamousnomoi have tried almost everything i can find in the wiki and forums have stopped answering http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11986510:31
BradM:O10:32
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celenkfissy, =\10:32
galgozfamousnomo: here is a good sound resoucrce http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly10:32
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galgozthat whole guide is a good resource10:32
ompaulBradM, maybe change victims for "new linux users"10:32
owner!ubuntuguide10:33
ubotuubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead10:33
galgozthe sound section worked good for me10:33
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galgozthat part wasn't in the wiki.ubuntu.com that I could find10:33
idefixwhere is this xorg.conf file?10:33
elvinok im pissed off10:33
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elvini installed ubuntu10:33
elvinbut i dont know the root password10:34
elvin:-s10:34
ownerlol10:34
idefixguess!10:34
owner!root10:34
ubotuBy default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.10:34
elvinit didnt ask for it10:34
galgozyou don't need the root password10:34
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fissycelenk, try "vgscan --mknodes"10:34
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elvini want to add a user10:34
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timfrostidefix, /etc/X11/xorg.conf10:34
galgozsudo10:34
ownersudo adduser10:34
reonHi, anybody know if there is a problem with the backport repos ???10:34
thefamousnomogalgoz: the wiki has some good stuff as does the forums but nonw of it seems to work!10:34
AMDXP!freenx10:34
ubotufreenx is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX10:34
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fissycelenk, if you have partitioned your disk in a certain way, that might help find the partitions.10:34
ompaulelvin, use your password - this here is sudo country :)10:34
fissycelenk, after that command, try seeing what hard drive devices you have again10:34
celenkfissy, bash: vgscan: command not found10:34
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ownerubotu tell elvin about root10:34
galgozfamousnomo: I had trouble with sound until I ran the sound configure steps on the ubunto guide and it worked after that10:35
mircea_hello10:35
thefamousnomothe thread is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119865, if anyone has the time to try to help me out would really appreciate it!10:35
fissygah10:35
ompaulelvin, read the link from ubotu there a few moments again10:35
elvinyeah10:35
omerixhow can i open floppy?10:35
Cyorxampif I find wine on synaptic and install it, will exe's just work when I double click them?10:35
mircea_I am very new to ubunto10:35
galgozfamousnomo: other than that I have no idea10:35
elvinok10:35
mircea_and new to linux10:35
mircea_I need help10:35
ownerthey do cyorxamp10:35
fissycelenk, when you installed ubuntu, did you choose all the default options?10:35
mircea_can you pls help me?10:35
ompaul!anyone10:35
fissycelenk, did you let it automatically partition the disk on it's own?10:35
ubotuprobably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>10:35
BradMThese Ubuntu 5.10 discs are so sexci.10:35
thefamousnomoill go through the guide again galgoz, cheers!10:35
ompaul!ask10:35
celenkfissy, like I said, I *think* so.  Yes, it partitioned the disk on its own10:35
yarkoHi Ubuntoers... I'm trying to setup dapper on powerbook G4... I need DVI out working but all possible configurations using mergedFB stall the beast so nothing works (and no Xorg.log even generated) -- could any one kick me on how to debug it so we know some useful information why it brakes?10:35
ompaul!tell mircea_ about ask10:35
mircea_OK10:35
Cyorxampbradm - look boring to me10:36
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melechorionre10:36
BradMCyorxamp, you look like a homo to me.10:36
nate__whats the command to get a list of your hardware?10:36
fissyANYONE, does ubuntu use LVM2 if you let it automatically partition a disk by itself?10:36
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mircea_How do I change the refresh rate as I can onbly chose 60 refresh and I need at least 85 refresh?10:36
madewokherdwhat package has the gtksourceview module for python?10:36
elvinok10:36
elvingot it10:36
ompaulyarko, your talking about debugging a devel version - trust me on this - it was faulty yesterday and may be okay tomorrow10:36
nate__whats the command to get a list of your hardware?10:36
idefixso, timfrost, are there modes of screen resolution somehow? (assuming you know what's in the file you know the location of)10:36
elvinwhat if  i want to connect remotely to my box ?10:36
elvinusing root10:36
BradMnate__, you already said that once.10:36
BradMBe more specific.10:37
mircea_My eyes hurt so much that I can't use ubuntu if I can't change refresh10:37
CyorxampBradM - why don't you go get 'sexci' with yourself10:37
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timfrost!fixres10:37
ubotuPlease read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto10:37
ownertell elvin about ssh10:37
BradMtell Cyorxamp about stfu10:37
elvinoh10:37
nate__i want a list of all the working hardware on my computer, like what video card i have, what sound card i have, how much memory, etc10:37
ownerubotu tell elvin about ssh10:37
elvinby the way10:37
elvinubuntu is kewl10:37
idefixtimfrost!10:37
BradMnate__, like df -H?10:37
idefixarth thou there?10:37
ompaulelvin, ssh in and then sudo command - give password it lasts ~15 mins so sudo after use stops working after 15 mis10:37
nate__BradM, well, kinda.  Thta gives me like disk space10:38
Cyorxampis there a way of having thr 'Save Screenshot' dialog box -not- pop up when I press Print Screen button?10:38
BradMnate__, look around www.google.com/linux10:38
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nate__ok...10:38
nate__i already searched for 30 mins10:38
timfrostnate__, lshw10:38
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nate__timfrost, thanks :D10:38
B1zzi want to empty trash can in my ubuntu but when i click to empty it acts like it does.  But when i go to look if anything is there evrything is still there!10:38
BradMso obvious10:38
elvinkick ass :)10:38
elvinthanks guys10:39
ompaulnate__, and have a look at some values in /proc10:39
BradMlook at /proc10:39
ompaulBradM, only after you lshw :)10:39
metalheddGDM Wont start on boot even though the Services window and BUM say that it should be.10:40
elvinfor yahoo msgr what version should i download ?10:40
metalheddwhat's the deal/!10:40
elvinthey dont have an ubuntu version10:40
nate__what's /proc?10:40
owneruse gaim elvin10:40
colecoI just did a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer bbut for some reason X crashes when it trys to start.10:40
ownerubotu tell elvin about gaim10:40
ompaulnate__,  a directory10:40
slavikis there an easy way to switch grub and ubuntu?10:40
Cyorxampwow my ubuntu is finally playing mp3's10:40
nate__ompaul, just figured that out, osrry i'm stupid10:40
Cyorxampnow if only I can get this display working :S10:40
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ownerwhich card do you have cyor?10:40
Cyorxampit's a radeon 950010:41
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CyorxampI have installed the -doinky- drivers10:41
ownerubotu tell cyorxamp about ati10:41
fissycelenk, no-one else seems to want to help, and i don't know myself. As i see it, there are two options. One is that you can't access the partition because it is an LVM volume, one that your mepis disc doesn't know how to deal with. The other is that your filesystem is broken10:41
ompaulslavik, edit >> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst << the number for default is for the menu heading that boots - you will figure it out10:41
Cyorxampowner - will you WAIT!10:41
melechorionist nu grad einer da, der weis, wie ich Ubuntu bebringe, dass er endlich gcc-3.4 nutzen  soll und nicht mehr 4 ,...10:41
Cyorxampcricky!10:41
CyorxampI have enough ubotu hints for one day10:41
ompaul!de10:41
ubotuDeutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de10:41
slavikompaul: I was thinking of istalling lilo instead of grub ...10:41
nate__ompaul, thanks man :)10:41
ownerlol cyorxamp10:41
AMDXPCyorxamp: you will get it10:41
slavikbut was told not to, since it's not much use10:41
kevmanHey, I have an iMac with Breezy on it. But when I play an Audio CD, the sound cuts out about every 3 seconds. Any idea?10:42
Cyorxampowner - I was saying I put on that -doinky- its a driver10:42
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ompaulslavik, I would not, were you the person with every third reboot it fails?10:42
celenkfissy, should I try a ubuntu livecd?10:42
slavikkevman: might be something with buffering10:42
ownerdonky?10:42
slavikompaul: no10:42
ownerdoinky?10:42
Cyorxampowner - then I ran this thing to configure it but I selected a refresh too high I think so I just reset my xorg.conf to normal10:42
kevmanWhere can I set that?10:42
slavikompaul: I was told that it's not worth the hassle10:42
ompaulslavik, I would not, << as I said :)10:42
Cyorxampowner - don't wanna do it again till I know what I am doing10:42
slavikompaul: I was only considering it10:42
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Cyorxampowner - is there another way of doing it without using all the text based questions?10:43
owneror use easyubuntu cyorxamp it can install ati drivers for you10:43
nate__ompaul, where would i find what RAM chips i have in the computer, i added a new one but i dunno if it worked10:43
fissycelenk, not sure. you could try reinstalling grub first if you like10:43
owner!easyubuntu10:43
nate__ompaul, i'm looking at /proc but i can't find that10:43
ownerubotu tell cyorxamp about easyubuntu10:43
mircea_Come on guys, help me with that refresh rate10:43
UncleSkunkYarrrrr things keep crashing10:43
ompaulnate__, how much ram did it have before, if you know the answer to that then do this free and see what ram it is showing now10:43
fissycelenk, hopefully your mepis thing will allow you to do that, the information that grub needs to boot ubuntu should then be on that /boot partition10:43
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timfrost!tell mircea -about fixres10:43
nate__ompaul, "then do this free" whats that mean?10:44
B1zzi want to empty trash can in my ubuntu but when i click to empty it acts like it does.  But when i go to look if anything is there evrything is still there! any ideas?10:44
nate__ubotu tell mircea about fixres10:44
ompaulnate__, >>>free<< is a command10:44
nate__oh10:44
slavikB1zz: that's weird ...10:44
nate__ompaul10:44
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B1zzyeah tell me about it ;)10:44
nate__ompaul, thanks so much, you really were helpful10:44
mircea_!tell mircea_ -about fixres10:44
slavikfree is a command that takes a pointer as an argument10:44
celenkfissy, sorry to ask, but how would I go about doing that?10:44
nate__ompaul, have a great day :)10:44
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slavikfree is part of the C standard library inside malloc.h10:45
ompaulnate__, hehe, I'll try is is 21:45 here10:45
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Cyorxampwhenever I browse around a windows share it keeps wanting to log-onto everything - it's gay, how can I stop it :P10:45
slavikhow do I get the trash thing onto a gDesklet? (Candybar to be specific)10:45
Travis__how do I fix this? ??????10:45
Travis__checking for glib-2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'glib-2.0' found10:45
ompaulfree - Display amount of free and used memory in the system10:45
ownerinstall glib with synaptic travis10:46
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eZei am in the menu.lst file of grub, but I can't find the value which sets a certain os as the default boot10:46
ownerubotu tell travis about synaptic10:46
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fissycelenk, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=1010:46
tattersanyone use acidlab, mysql, snort, apache, php?10:46
Olofssonhello10:46
ownerubotu tell travis__ about synaptic10:46
slavikompaul: you there?10:46
fissycelenk, scroll down to 'Code Listing 7'10:46
timfrostTravis, install libglib2.0-dev10:46
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ompauleZe, that would be >>default<<10:46
Olofssoni've got some trouble printing, don't know if it's ubuntu or windowa10:47
fissycelenk, that is the gist of what you want to do, but you have to change what they've said slightly to reflect your computer, which has its disks in odd places10:47
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ompaulslavik, never ask a specific person :) ask the channel I might have been *cough* busy10:47
BrickMakerhi.. any body have install this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989 ?10:47
Travis__owner this package isn't avaliable on apt10:47
mwewhat package provides man pages for standard c functions?10:47
yarkoompaul: yeah - I upgraded it and the bahaviour changed a bit - now MergedFb enforces to don't use UseFBDev option... but it still stalls if I use one of the confugrations with MergedFB...10:47
Travis__I am compiling it and it gives me that error10:47
ownerdo search10:47
ownerin synaptic10:47
Travis__for what?10:47
timfrostTravis__, you need the development package, libglib2.0-dev10:47
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Travis__k10:47
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eZeompaul, just add "default" to the line?10:48
elvinubotu tell me about ssh again10:48
ownerthere are so many libglib packages just do a search in synaptic10:48
fissycelenk, i think you'd need to  change the line root(hd0,0) to root(hd3,0) but I'm not totally sure10:48
ownerfor libglib10:48
Travis__timfrost thanks that worked10:48
elvinubotu tell me about ssh10:48
ompaulyarko, you talkin' to me? <think bronks accent> no I idea what were or how10:48
ompauleZe, change the number 010:48
fissycelenk, is your ubuntu hard drive a secondary ide device on the same cable as your cd drive?10:48
Cyorxampis easyubuntu something I should be going for - looks kind of... unfinished10:48
Travis__now I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxml210:49
Travis__collect2: ld returned 1 exit status10:49
Travis__make[1] : *** [mpcstick]  Error 110:49
owneruse it cyoramp10:49
celenkfissy, well when I do "root (hd" and hit tab, the two options it says are "hd0" and "hd1"10:49
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ownerit worked fine for me10:49
ompaulCyorxamp, #easyubuntu10:49
dave321Hi all, I want to change the Refresh Rate of my desktop setup to at least 85 Hz.  The Gnome Screen Resolution widget dropdown only lists 65 Hz.  What do I need to do to change my Refresh Rate?10:49
Olofssonwhen i print to a windows shared printer the print seems to be sent from ubuntu to the windows shared printer but it just stoppes in the windows que10:49
Cyorxampno one is saying anything in that channel ompaul10:49
celenkfissy, yes, I have the "master" to the windows hd, the "slave" to the ubuntu one10:49
Cyorxampand the website isnt very clear - not for a novice10:49
trappistTravis__: looks like you need libxml2 and/or libxml2-dev10:49
Travis__ok10:49
celenkcelenk, err, I mean, it's not connected to my cd drive thoguh10:49
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eZeompaul, number 0, you mean the first thing in the list?10:49
ompaulCyorxamp, wait awhile and then you may get an answer ehre10:49
yarkoompaul: yeah - you just dropped a reply to my question (5 mins ago or so) -- nevermind though :-)10:49
elvinowner,  i did sudo apt-get install openssh-server10:50
fissycelenk, oh, in that case, do hd1,0 if your boot partition is the first partition on the ubuntu disk10:50
elvinbut i still cant connect to my server10:50
elvinremotely10:50
|37th|TriggerHello... I have an urgent problem if someone doesnt mind?10:50
ownershoot10:50
ompauleZe, that number dictates the booting system from the debian automagic list10:50
|37th|Triggerurm10:50
ompaulyarko, ahh - let me look10:50
slavik|37th|Trigger: we don't mind if you tell us the problem right away, instead of introducing it10:50
timfrostTravis__, what are you compiling?  You need to install the -dev version of all the libraries  your program needs10:50
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|37th|Triggerhehe ok10:50
|37th|Triggersorry10:50
celenkfissy, okay, that says it was successful... now just try it out?10:51
slavik|37th|Trigger: don't ask to ask, just ask.10:51
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|37th|Triggeri'm really new to linux, And ive forgotten my password :( does anyone know if i can bypass it some how to log in and change it?10:51
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eboot in rescue mode trigger10:51
fissycelenk, before you do that, bear in mind that you could have just broken your ability to boot anything. do you know how to restore the windows bootloader if everything has gone wrong?10:51
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eZeomaru, ah, i found it, it was at the top, I was looking at the bottom ;) so now I put the 0 away and put it where?10:51
ompaulyarko, now I am with you, playing cacth up :)10:51
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slavik|37th|Trigger: you need to log in as root ... root is the administrative account10:51
slavikthen change your username's password10:51
jdbush4if I have a cvs repository setup on my ubuntu installation, what do I need to do to access it from a windows machine?10:51
|37th|TriggerUbuntu's root account is locked :P10:51
chxhi. while mplayer, beep-media-player and all nicely works , I can't get timidity to play music for me. It starts, loads the patches but that's it :(10:52
celenkfissy, I believe so, using the win cd in restore mode then doing FIXMBR10:52
|37th|Triggerhence sudo (im not that new)10:52
slavikthat sucks ...10:52
ompaul|37th|Trigger, NO It is disabled10:52
ownerubotu tell |37th|Trigger about root10:52
slavikare you inside the system?10:52
ompaul!rootsudo10:52
uboturumour has it, rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root10:52
ewell boot up in rescue mode, it will take u straight into system as ROOT10:52
Travis__whats the command to rescan for hardware??10:52
ownerubotu tell |37th|Trigger about rootsudo10:52
chx!timidity10:52
ubotuchx: Bugger all, i dunno10:52
BradMHAHA10:52
ownerubotu tell |37th|Trigger about sudo10:52
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|37th|Triggeri know about sudo :/10:52
BradMbugger all10:52
eZeompaul, ah, i found it, it was at the top, I was looking at the bottom ;) so now I put the 0 away and put it where?10:52
BradMubotu10:52
celenkfissy, and in the grub setup, it says "partition 4"(which I think is /dev/hdd5) is "type 0x8e" which I don't recognize10:52
ompaulowner, it is someone he is talkin to afik10:52
Cyorxampshould I get the latest 'devel' (whatever that is) version of easyubuntu?10:52
|37th|Triggerc.. Do you mind if i pm you can you can walk me through it? :(10:52
|37th|Triggere**10:53
celenkfissy, just as something to point out? =\10:53
dave321Hi all, I want to change the Refresh Rate of my desktop setup to at least 85 Hz.  The Gnome Screen Resolution widget dropdown only lists 65 Hz.  What do I need to do to change my Refresh Rate?10:53
metalsandCan someone help me get my PCMCIA wireless device to work?10:53
fissycelenk, exactly :) One other thing, you'll want to add the windows loader to grubs config. If you can edit files in that /boot partition you can see, look at 'Code listing 4' for the stuff you need o add to grub's config to get it to boot windows10:53
fissycelenk, hang on, i'll just look it up10:53
metalsandThe default install of Ubuntu installed the wrong drivers, now it comes up as a eth device.10:53
ompauleZe, no you change it for 1 2 3 4 or something which ever you want to boot - it may not match 1 for 1 with the stuff below but you can figure it handy enough10:53
ownermetal the kernel loads drivers10:53
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ownerubotu tell metalsand about kernel10:54
Cyorxampowner - should I get the latest 'devel' (whatever that is) version of easyubuntu?10:54
owneryes cyorxamp10:54
ownerit is perfect10:54
eZeompaul, oh, that was too easy :) does memtest also count as one?10:54
Cyorxampok well ill use the command on that page10:54
|37th|TriggerBreezy Badger is the newest one isnt it?10:54
ompaul|37th|Trigger, who are you talking to? and what are you trying to find out10:54
preativei have a question maybe someone in here can help me with...10:54
AMDXPyes Badger is the newest10:54
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ownergo ahead preative10:54
slavikompaul: he forgot his user password10:54
ompauleZe, it may do but you would regret that choice10:54
seluthai have a belkin kvm and the mouse goes nuts after switching. I have put in psmouse.proto=bare in menu.lst that is the right spot correct? or is there another fix?10:54
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QMarioHello ompaul!!! :)10:54
ownerubotu tell |37th|Trigger about password10:54
|37th|Triggeri feel so stupid :(10:54
slavikpreative: don't ask to ask, just ask10:54
fissycelenk, it's apparently the code for a Logical Volume Manager partition (LVM). That means out of those options i gave you earlier, it's more likely that your install is safe rather than corrupt :)10:55
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preativei downloaded ubuntu live cd, and booted it, and when it came to the prompt i typed live, and it just restrts my comuter10:55
ompaulQMario, who told you we were here :)10:55
eZeompaul, no, I don't want to boot memtest, just wanted to know if I have to count that one10:55
celenkfissy, ah, well hopefully it's still there =)10:55
QMarioOmpaul, I found you!!! ;)10:55
preativesince i have a compact precario, with winxp pre installed can i still use live cd?10:55
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ompauleZe, y9ou can end up not booting if you get it wrong but then you just choose from the menu10:55
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slavikpreative: yes, live cd doesn't really need any hd space ...10:55
eZealright, thanks, i'll try it10:56
celenkfissy, thank you for all of your help, you've been very... well, helpful. =)  If it doesn't work, I'll try coming back and asking around10:56
ompauleZe, the answer is it is one10:56
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preativehow come it just restarts after i type live, it goes back to compaq screen and then to the ubunto prompt10:56
ompaul|37th|Trigger, what did you do? sorry not following this at all10:56
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fissycelenk, sorry i was slow :P hard day at work today. good luck10:56
tattersis there a front end for kismet?10:56
celenkfissy, np =) and thanks again10:56
thefamousnomohello people10:57
micsmithhow do I spoof my MAC in Ubuntu 5.10?10:57
ompaulpreative, bios is bouncing like a mad thing10:57
slavikpreative: try jsut pressing enter at the boot menu?10:57
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thefamousnomocan anyone help? thinkpad600 sound probs http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11986510:57
slavikubuntu forums are back up :D10:57
tattersoh thnk god :)10:57
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reonHi, anybody know if there is a problem with the backport repos ???10:58
preativeyea tried that... it acts like its going to start then computer restarts and then back to ubuntu prompt10:58
BrickMakerhow can i make my gnome panel as XP taskbar10:58
thefamousnomotried everything i can find! please anyone with any ideas, let me know!10:58
tatterslol havent been able to get in for 30 odd hrs10:58
ompaulmicsmith, man this nameif (8)           - name network interfaces based on MAC addresses10:58
preativeompaul anyway to fix that problem?10:58
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slavikpreative: did you try 'linux'?10:59
micsmithI greatly appreciate that ompaul.  Is that a permanent  alias?10:59
ompaulpreative, it is not a problem - the bios is talking to the box after it figures out that it is going to boot the o/s10:59
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preativeso how do i get it to skip the reboot and load ubuntu10:59
ompaulmicsmith, no idea >> man nameif << I presume it would persist10:59
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ompaulmicsmith, presuming stuff is the mother of all windows programmers :)11:00
thefamousnomohope to hear from one of you! would appreciate! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11986511:00
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trappistooh nameif is cool11:00
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preativeslavik i tried live.. and live... somethin whatever the other one was11:00
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ompaultrappist, you will be the mac I tell you :)11:00
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micsmith;)  Have a good one guys and gals.11:01
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ompaulpreative, sorry are you saying that your machine does not actually boot ubuntu at all?11:01
ompaulpreative, or have we a misunderstanding11:01
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celenkfissy, almost successful =)  I'm on ubuntu, and the files are safe, but I'm using safe mode?  When I tried to select the default ubuntu kernel boot, it started, then would flash back to grub11:01
kehermanIs it possible to have KDE/Gnome/XFCE all as options to a user when logging in easily on Ubuntu?11:01
eightieskwhy does my !timezone11:02
celenkfissy, so I suspect something must be wrong in my menu.lst11:02
eightiesk!timezone11:02
ubotueightiesk: I haven't a clue11:02
celenkfissy, I'm just not sure what11:02
eightiesk!time11:02
ubotueightiesk: I give up, what is it?11:02
eightiesk!timezones11:02
ubotueightiesk: Syntax error in line 111:02
eightieskmy time zone keeps canging.11:02
fissycelenk, I don't know anything about using LVM really. Could you paste your menu.lst somewhere for all to have a look at?11:03
ompauleightiesk, the battery on your mother board?11:03
preativeompaul... when i turn the computer on, the startup compaq screen appears, after that it begins to boot the iso, wich is where i get stuck... it has ubuntu logo atop, and below it says "boot:" and wants me to type... so i type live, and it restarts my computer and goes back to iso boot screen11:03
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CptBrutalwhat the heck... browser crashed again11:03
ompaulpreative, hit enter11:03
preativetried11:03
ompauland11:03
preativejust restarts the comuter11:03
tatterswhats best backup package for ubuntu? is there a norton ghost type clone?11:04
celenkfissy, well I just have one question, what does the line "savedefault" do in the menu.lst?  It's part of both ubuntu(latest kernel) and winxp entries11:04
celenkfissy, it seemed like when I tried to boot it, that's where it'd get to before flashing back to grub11:04
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DShepherdis anyone using dapper? if so can you tell me if the new evolution can export your contacts to csv?11:04
yarkoompaul: Thank you Friend. but forget about it... I will torture the beast tomorrow -- now I am off to home11:05
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Azunaihi guys11:05
ompaulpreative, the syntax is avoiding me atm - try this >>set NOAPIC<< on that line11:05
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ompaulpreative, maybe all lower case11:05
Azunaihas anyone here heard of knoppix?11:06
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preativenew at this... i dont get what you mean11:06
elvinhow exactly i add an user ?11:06
ompaulAzunai, yeap, but not as much as the people in #knoppix11:06
fissycelenk, apparently: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/savedefault.html11:06
Travis__HI, I have a gamepad/controller thing I am trying to get to work with ubuntu, how do I make ubuntu detect it11:06
celenkfissy, yeah nvm I just found that =\11:06
preativewhere do i type that at?11:06
preativethe prompt?11:06
celenkfissy, where would you like me to post the entries?11:06
Azunaiompaul, yeah but im on ubuntu i wanted to know if there was a way i can apt-get the iso :P11:06
ompaulelvin, the easy (GUI) way system adminstration users/groups11:07
celenkfissy, of menu.lst11:07
rambo3is there some kind of java console manager in ubuntu  for sun java 1.511:07
ompaulpreative, yes11:07
timfrost!pastebin11:07
ubotupastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org11:07
arm0sfighteri have a external dvd drive and its reading the cd i put it and i can move the stuff off of them onto my computer but.. i cant write to it and it cant detect it in dvd shrink on wine11:07
fissycelenk, the thing in the title probably works11:07
arm0sfighterhelp11:07
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fissytopic*11:07
emileehello11:07
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preativeso type "set noapic" and it will run or type more after that?11:08
glacious=)11:08
ompaulAzunai, no ftp / http / torrent it -- http://www.knoppix.org or try this one http://www.kanotix.com11:08
Azunaii did there all really slow sources :(11:08
Dempahey, i have a question. Just gave my gf a ubuntu livecd since her win install broke, but the wireless connection doesn't work. Is there a way to fix this without a full hd install?11:08
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ompaulpreative, try it, it may need more but that is step one11:08
preativeokay thanks ill  be right back11:09
celenkfissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754211:09
celenkfissy, the recovery mode works, that's why I posted that as well11:09
HS-Lcan anyone tell me what are the pro's of running ubuntu as server os instead of just debian?11:09
celenkfissy, for comparative reasons11:09
ompaulDempa, you will need to get the wireless driver for it, (windows one) and look at a web page I will get the bot to send you11:09
fissycelenk, you see that initrd on the end of your /vmlinuz line?11:09
fissycelenk, that shouldn't be there, a line break got taken out somehow11:10
Dempaompaul,  ok, but will it work right away the next time she boots on the livecd?11:10
fissycelenk, edit and press enter after the "sp"11:10
ompaulHS-L, so your desktop and server are the same :)11:10
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tattersubuntu got a more ring to the name than debian?11:10
ompaulHS-L, it is more up to date given it started as sid11:10
HS-Lompaul: well my desktop is macosx :)11:10
celenkfissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754311:10
celenkfissy, there11:10
ompaulHS-L, well you can install ubuntu there too11:11
celenkerr11:11
arm0sfighterarmosfighter need help...11:11
celenkfissy, err11:11
HS-Lheheh, well, i've installed it on my x86 machine at work.11:11
ompaulDempa, only if you build a script for her - have a look at it11:11
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celenkfissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754411:11
celenkfissy, there11:11
fissycelenk, is that possibly coming about from how you're copying and pasting?11:11
HS-Lbut i wondered if it would have advantages if i install ubuntu on my server.11:11
arm0sfighter: (11:11
ompaulDempa, or you could do persistant data on a usb have a look on the wiki11:11
celenkfissy, it doesn't look like that in console11:11
celenkfissy, it looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/754411:12
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elvinubotu sendmail11:12
ubotuparse error: dunno what you're talking about, elvin11:12
fissycelenk, ok, i think the sp at then end of your kernel line should read splash11:12
Dempaompaul,  ok, thanks. i'll digg som in the ndiswrapperwiki11:12
ompaulDempa, that is wiki.ubuntu.com11:12
fissycelenk, so a bit like my dapper line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-13-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro vga=771 quiet splash11:12
celenkfissy, agh, it didn't copy it correctly11:12
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celenkfissy, it does say splash in file11:12
celenkfissy, =\11:13
ompaulHS-L, do you want more current packages on your debian server?11:13
HS-Lompaul: i assume all the standard packages (apache2 mysql php postfix are default installed?11:13
HS-Lwell, at the moment i have an mac osx server, but it sucks11:13
fissycelenk, ok. did you have to edit the file at all to get it to look like that on the pastebin? did you need to put the linebreak in?11:13
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Travis__how do I use a GAMEPAD with linux its connected to the gameport on the back of my computer11:13
HS-Lompaul: i'll get my new server next week11:13
bimberiHS-L: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ particularly under "About Ubuntu"11:13
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celenkfissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7545 there that's how it looks in nano11:13
ompaulHS-L, no, sudo apt-get install whatever - you might want mysql and postfix but not the others - think what you install gets turned on - why else did you install it :)11:13
celenkfissy, what do you mean?11:14
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celenkfissy, I edited the pastebin entry, not the file itself11:14
tattersive just managed to get mysql-server apache , acidlab, php4 and snort to work on ubuntu, only took me 4 days :/11:14
fissycelenk, so you haven't edited the menu.lst at all and we're still trying to work out what's wrong?11:14
celenkfissy, yes, sorry for copying error11:14
fissynp11:14
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tattersstill only been using linux for 4 days so I count that as a result :P11:15
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metalsandI'm trying to install linux-headers but do not know which version I need11:15
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fissycelenk, do you have the safemode linux there? what does cat /etc/mtab | grep " / "  show?11:16
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_patrickAnyone know how to fix sound setup so that sound can be coming from more then one program? Situation is, I get sound on Teamspeak but then America's Army then has no sound and vise versa.11:16
preativeompaul, it said it could not find the kernal image11:16
metalsandWhat is "On 386" imply?11:16
tattersstill no idea what to back up I thought in linux root folder held all the files11:16
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celenkfissy, /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 011:16
metalsanddo I want linux-headers-2.6.12-10 or linux-headers-2.6.12-10-38611:16
bimberimetalsand: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)11:16
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ompaulmetalsand, uname -a and compare11:17
metalsandbimberi: I'm assuming that will install the correct ones automatically?11:17
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austin_hi guys11:17
zebprinter help plz11:17
bimberimetalsand: yes - in fact it will install both of those (-10 depends on -10-386)11:17
zebif i cant get this to work ill have to go back to windows11:17
austin_could u guys help me?11:17
austin_http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus11:17
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zebthe drivers are installed, but it keeps printing out blank pages11:18
austin_I want to install a wireless card11:18
ompaulzeb, from the menu:::: system administration printing11:18
metalsandbimberi: Perfect, thank you.11:18
bimberimetalsand: yw :)11:18
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tatterswhats a red box with white X in top right hand corner of a file mean?11:18
zebok11:18
fissycelenk, sorry, no idea. You could try taking off the quiet and splash options from your kernel line, but if it worked with them before...11:18
zebnow what11:18
metalsandbimberi: Would you recommend I Follow this guide (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary) to get my Wireless PCMCIA device working?11:18
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ompaulzeb, it is a kind of obvious menu system give it a shot11:18
fissycelenk, explain how it fails again? when you press enter on the top option, it does something and then goes back to grub?11:19
zebduh, dude11:19
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zebalready done that11:19
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B1zztatters that is to kill an app11:19
clinica_psichiathi11:19
zebthe printer is installed11:19
bimberimetalsand: oops, btw the dependency is the other way around (not really important but i'm a perfectionist :P )11:19
preativewhats do i do when it says no kernal image found?11:19
zebbut it keeps printing out blanks11:19
austin_it says to use the curl command in the trtminal.... it doesnt work11:19
B1zzif the app stops responding that will force close it11:19
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ompaulzeb, what application are you using to print with ?11:19
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metalsandbimberi: Gotcha. About the guide?11:19
austin_hello?11:19
tattersits on my acidlab.conf file?11:19
zebwell ive just been printing test pages11:19
metalsandDo you recommend I follow it?11:19
celenkfissy, yes, it happens extremely quickly, like a flash of maybe four lines of text then back to grub11:19
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B1zzopps my mistake lol11:19
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B1zzdont listen to me11:20
B1zz:-p11:20
flavien_Hi ! I got a problem with a sound card...11:20
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tatterscould it mean that there is an error in the code and its just an alert?11:20
zebis there a software i should download11:20
austin_help plz?11:20
austin_guys?11:20
tattershmm11:21
bimberimetalsand: sorry, i'm not sure, breezy would have additional modules built in (i can see a prism2 module)11:21
fissycelenk, sorry, still no idea :(11:21
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flavien_ASRock motherboard has integrated audio. lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026b (rev a2)". Docs on asRock website suggest Realtek ALC850 chipset11:21
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ompaulzeb, and that tells me the application? tell you what, do this >>> cat > foo << then put some random text on screen for a line or three then do this CTRL+C then type this >>lp foo<< and tell me if you get text11:21
bimberimetalsand: actually that's a usb module11:21
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austin_some one help me plz!11:21
metalsandbimberi: I'm in breezy now but I cannot get my PCMCIA wireless device to work correctly, a gooogle search returned this guide11:21
ompaul!tell austin_ about ask11:21
zebwhat the hell is cat foo11:22
tattersThe Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.11:22
ompaulaustin_, read the comment from the bot11:22
tatters:/11:22
bimberimetalsand: i reckon it's worth a try :)11:22
metalsandbimberi: The drivers that he recommends to download have PCMCIA, usb, ect11:22
tatterswhat does that mean?11:22
metalsandokay. Thanks.11:22
ompaulzeb, you ask for help, forget it I gave you a set of commands and you ask me "what the hell am I doing" pffft11:22
hypn0tatters, a crash?11:22
zebsorry dude11:22
celenkfissy, well, what exactly does booting into safe mode do?  I notice no difference?11:22
bimberimetalsand: note that the kernel numbers have changed (2.6.12 now)11:22
austin_I want to install a card http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus is the guide I am using11:22
zebim a noob, i dont understand11:22
bimberis/numbers/versions/11:22
ompaulzeb, and it was """ cat > foo """ the bits between the "11:23
tattershmm it say I can report to developers and fill in form but I no idea what caused it11:23
austin_the first line is using the curl command11:23
austin_it doesnt work11:23
ompaulzeb, can you get a terminal on your screen11:23
fissycelenk, do you still get a gui?11:23
zebi dont understand, should i type that into terminal11:23
zebOK11:23
zebterminal11:23
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colecoHi, I just installed ubuntu on this computer, For some reason when X starts it just instantley crashes, I have an AMD 64 3000+ with a nVidia 6100 graphics card, 512 mb ram, and a Asus K8N-VM motherboard. I fogret the name of the program that allows you to use the mouse in a terminal otherwise I would paste the error that X is outputing too :/11:23
preativeompaul. i typed in the set noapic , and it said that it could not find kernal image. what now?11:23
celenkfissy, yes, I'm in the gnome gui, just like normal11:23
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tatterswhats nautilus?11:24
austin_anyboy?11:24
ownerubotu tell coleco about nvidia11:24
ompaulzeb, correct, please do not use enter as a punctuation11:24
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fissydid you get the normal ubuntu boot logo when the OS booted?11:24
ZorlonHello everyone!11:24
bimberimetalsand: also, i would use checkinstall instead of "make install"11:24
bimberiubotu tell metalsand about checkinstall11:24
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bimberitatters: the gnome file manager11:24
ompaulaustin_, give it a shot again, usually errors with that page are typos or wrong drivers11:24
zebit says syntax error near unexpected token.11:24
austin_k11:24
tattersubot tell me about nautilus11:24
ompaulzeb,                       cat > foo11:24
zebok11:25
zebthat works11:25
ZorlonCan someone suggest a nice journal program for Ubuntu? (Like a daily journal)11:25
tatterslike windows explorer?11:25
austin_doesnt work...11:25
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ompaulzeb, please do not do two lines, put the ok that works on one line11:25
bimberitatters: yes :)11:25
tattersk11:25
JaredHi can someone help me?11:25
ompaulzeb, now type some random text11:25
fissycelenk, it sounds to me like you're not really in recovery mode11:25
ZorlonJared: What is the problem?11:25
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zebnow ip>foo11:26
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ompaulzeb, no11:26
zebok11:26
austin_What should I do now?11:26
Jaredhi. I made a cd under WIndows xp and want to play it under Ubuntu and its not working11:26
preativeyea mine either11:26
fissycelenk, the single on the recovery mode kernel line makes the os boot up in single user mode ( i thought so anyway), so you wouldn't have a gui11:26
rambo3"XML Parsing Error: no element found  Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml " does anyone know how to fix this problem .       i have sun java enbled , and tested several browsers. can it be java or security  thing .11:26
bimberitatters: but much better of course :P11:26
ZorlonJared: Do you see it mount under ubuntu?11:26
fissycelenk, or even networking, i thought, though  icould be wrong on that11:26
Jaredno11:26
Jaredit doesnt mount11:26
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ompaulzeb, L P but lower case >>>> lp foo<<<< the text in the middle I use >>> and <<<< to say that a command is in the middle11:26
tattershmm stabilty isnt one of ubnutus key points me thinks :?11:27
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celenkfissy, hmm =\  not sure, it prompted me to log into the gui, just like normal, and now I'm using it, with seemingly no difference11:27
ompaultatters, funny that I have boxes running it for an age11:27
ZorlonJared: Wait one..11:27
Jaredo ok11:27
Jaredty11:27
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KSeanHey11:27
KSeanI have two broken packages11:27
roboticwhat's broken in my installer if I'm not getting the splash screen and the boot: prompt ?11:27
KSeanIt won't let me remove them11:27
tattersyes u might have but here its just crashed twice11:27
ompaulzeb, did it print?11:28
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tattersI accept its probasbly user error but I havent done that much so far11:28
austin_so how do I download something from ftp in the terminal?11:28
zebnope11:28
zebnothing happend11:28
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austin_the curl command obviously didnt work11:28
KSeanwget ftp://ftp.whatever.com/whatever11:28
KSean?11:28
ZorlonJared: You know how to go to a console?11:28
austin_ok ill try11:28
Jaredlol yes im not that dumb11:28
Jared:)11:28
Jaredwhat should i typin bash11:29
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austin_doesnt work11:29
ompaulzeb, what kind of printer have you , and please stop hitting enter between lines where your continuing to talk to me, also so I can see lines aimed at me, please use my nick in the text - that way it will highlight for me11:29
ZorlonJared: Dumb has nothing to do with it..it is a matter of experience and research :-)11:29
austin_it says unsupported scheme11:29
ompaul!enter11:29
ubotuplease don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!11:29
tattersits pointless me sending an error they want to know too much detail I have no idea of.11:29
jouni__mKSean check with synaptic which packages are broken.11:29
ZorlonJared: Try mounting your cd from the prompt11:29
ompaulJared, please see what ubotu said about enter :)11:29
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KSeanjouni - it's libnotify0 and libnotify-dev11:29
austin_somebody?11:29
zebompaul, i have a HP PSC 1210 all in one on USB.11:30
Jaredompaul i didnt11:30
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KSeanit wont let me remove them11:30
KSean:S11:30
Jaredi used ubuntu for 6 months and this is the first time i put a cd in how do i mount :)11:30
Jaredlol11:30
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ompaulJared, 2mins ago and just now11:30
preativeOmpaul, my computer said it could not find the kernal image, after i typed in set noapic11:30
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tattersit says here fatal error, but to be honest I feel fine11:30
zebompaul, The printer is showing it is installed on Ubuntu, however, when it prints it all comes out blank, but it is going through the motions like it is printing11:30
fissycelenk, try rebooting and seeing if it still works, also try windows. if it all still works, go with it i guess11:31
ownerpreative type uname -a11:31
fissycelenk, just beware of kernel updates11:31
bimberitatters: lol11:31
CyorxampHow can I disable to 'Save Screenshot' dialog box!?!11:31
ownerpreative type uname -r11:31
ompaulpreative, there is something else let me find you a set of things to try11:31
tatters:P11:31
ompaulzeb, please hang on a minute11:31
zebompaul, ok11:31
DShepherdJared, sudo mkdir /mnt/cd && mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cd #try that11:31
Jaredo thanks11:31
preativeuname -r11:31
jouni__mKSean could you reinstall them?11:31
preativewhats that do?11:31
KSeanwait11:31
KSeanIt's letting me remove them now11:32
ownertells you your kernel version preative11:32
KSeanIt just says it will remove some gnome things11:32
MisterNn811:32
KSeanI'll just install them again via apt-get11:32
DShepherdJared, you may have to put sudo infront of the mount command too11:32
mcdenyerwhich alsa stuff do i dl for surround sound?11:32
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austin_ok I will restate my problem. I want to follow the directions at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus and the first command to type into the terminal is curl -O ~ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630_revB/Drivers/dwlg630_driver_200.zip the "cur" command doesnt work. PLEASE HELP!!11:33
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preativeowner, where do i type it at?11:33
tattersI know this is not what u want to hear but my wi fi card had no probs with Ubuntu11:34
ompaulpreative, I am having issues finding offical ubuntu docs on that11:34
austin_anybody????11:34
bimberiaustin_: sudo apt-get install curl11:34
austin_kk11:34
tattersrt2500 chipset no idea who made it , its a genric card11:34
ownerpreative in a terminal11:34
preativethe boot screen?11:34
austin_thx11:34
bimberiaustin_: yw :)11:35
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ompaulowner, can you run with that one, there may be dma stuff and boot options are not in my field of expertise11:35
ompaulowner, then can you do a factiod so this fool can pity himself by reading about it :)11:35
tattersthis virus requires win 9X or higher in order to run correcctly?  whats that all about?11:36
ccidralhi all...11:36
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mcdenyeri have ubuntu should i get alsamixergui-gnome or just alsamixergui?11:36
ompaulzeb, what make of printer is that?11:36
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zebHP11:36
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ccidralI want the latest version of the Kernel with support for both Pentium 4 and SMP ...11:36
mlehrerhow easy is it to add device modules to an ubuntu kernel?11:36
zebompaul, HP PSC 1210.11:36
timfrostaustin_, try 'curl -O ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630_revB/Drivers/dwlg630_driver_200.zip11:37
timfrost'11:37
ccidralis there a way to upgrade the kernel from the web without having to compile it myself?11:37
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theineccidral, chances are you will have to compile it. Why do you need the latest version so badly?11:38
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tatterswhat I dont understand is Y do the ppl that make snort, not make something like acidlab to manage it?11:38
ccidralI mean the latest 'official' version provided by Ubuntu community11:38
theineccidral, oh...11:38
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theineccidral, you should automatically get it when you update your system11:39
ccidralthat is, 2.6.12-1011:39
theineccidral, one second...11:39
ccidraltheine: but I would like to have support for Pentium 4 and SMP11:39
KSeanHey, where do I change what programs load when I login to ubuntu?11:39
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theineccidral, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp11:40
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ccidralnice. let me try11:40
stuart_how are you all11:41
theinefabulous11:41
stuart_glad to here that11:41
ccidraloh yeah, it's simply upgrading :) very nice11:41
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ccidralthanks, theine11:42
ompaulzeb, if you have done the menu part, are you using Open office to try and type and print?11:42
zebyeah, ive done that11:42
theineccidral, you're welcome11:42
zebit all prints up the same11:42
zebblank11:42
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jouni__mzeb no more ink? which driver you have?11:43
zeboh theres in11:43
zebompaul, there is in11:43
ompaulzeb, stop please, you are confusing me11:43
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zebompaul, there is ink11:43
zebompaul, sorry11:44
zebompaul, the driver im using is one i downloaded from HP11:44
ompaulzeb, stop please11:44
ifwui45hey guys... is there a way to make it not load the services at startup, the ones I dont need? Like the RAID drivers...11:44
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zebstop what11:44
ccidraltheine: where have you found it out?11:44
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theineccidral, I did "apt-cache search linux | grep 686 | grep smp"...11:45
zebompaul, thanx for your help, but im going back to windows. ive had about enough linux for my lifetime11:45
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ompaulzeb, stop typing,  please answer the question you are being asked.  Are all these blank pages coming from Open office11:45
ccidralhmmm, ok11:45
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QMarioHow do I manually set my computer's IP Address in the terminal?11:45
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ompaulenjoy it11:45
zoneallarmciao a tutti11:45
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ompaulpreative, good news I hope11:46
theineccidral, but I actually knew that such a kernel version is available. can't remember when I first heard about it though...11:46
preativeno good news11:46
La_PaRCaHey kids!11:46
preativei cannot figure it out11:46
preativei just keeps says no kernal image11:47
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theinepreative, what are you trying to do?11:47
preativei tried uname -r it said no kernal image too11:47
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preativetheine, my computer just keeps restarting when i hit enter, instead of booting ubuntu11:47
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HanowarHola!!! "alguien habla espaol"????11:48
theinepreative, are you sure that a kernel is actiually installed?11:48
jclintonis there a DVD creation program for ubuntu?11:48
preativeno11:48
thenukeHanowar: hola! :O Que tqal?11:48
preativei am not sure11:48
preativei do not kow how to check11:48
jclintoni would like to take my home movies to DVD11:49
theinepreative, can you get access to the linux partitions via a live CD?11:49
ompaultheine, this is for a Live CD11:49
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Hanowarthenuke, Muy bien, amigo tengo un problema con el Mouse, no se mueve, no se si es por que tengo el Mouse puerto Serial. o que. Soy novato en Ubuntu. mejor dicho en Linux, aunque he instalado el Knoppix y Funciona. Asi que no entiendo la verdad.11:49
theineompaul, a custom one?11:49
xbox_skyO.o11:50
thenukeHanowar: ooops, I11:50
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ccidraltheine: I knew that Debian had such a version in its online package list, but I have not found an online package list at Ubuntu web site.11:50
xbox_sky!ubuntu tell hanowar about spanish11:50
ubotuxbox_sky: Wish i knew11:50
preativei downloaded from internet and burned to cd11:50
xbox_skyhmm11:50
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theineccidral, http://packages.ubuntu.com11:50
xbox_skyhanowar I'm pretty sure there's a spanish room for you11:50
ompauldono, I think it is a ubuntu live cd breezy, preative can you confirm you are using a Breeezy live CD?11:50
ompaul!es11:50
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:50
xbox_skytry #ubuntu.es11:50
thenukeHanowar: ooops, I'm really sorry, I know only few words of spanish =)11:50
trappistit's #ubuntu-es11:50
HanowarOkz11:50
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xbox_skythere you go11:50
xbox_sky#ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es,11:50
theinepreative, so you are using the live CD right now?11:51
Hanowarthanks11:51
preativeno i am back in windows11:51
vesAnybody got any good openoffice repositories? "Package openoffice.org2-thesaurus-en-gb is not available, but is referred to by another package." :/11:51
preativei have been trying to get the live cd to boot11:51
vinilodjbuenas, tengo un problema, creo que las fuentes qyue utiliza muy ubuntu me hacen dao a la vista11:51
vinilodjes algo raro11:51
theinepreative, I'd strongly recommend to use the live CD if possible11:51
vinilodjcomo puedo mejorarlo11:51
fissynn all11:51
ccidraltheine: thanks ... packages.debian.org ... it should be pretty predictable huh? :)11:51
ompaul!es11:51
ubotuHispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.11:51
ompaul!pr11:51
ubotuNo idea, ompaul11:51
QMario!Static11:51
ubotuQMario: I don't know, could you explain it?11:51
lightbrightwhat would cause a modem to hang up every 30 mins or so?11:52
ompaul!br11:52
ubotuPor favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.11:52
theinepreative, makes troubleshooting a lot easier...11:52
vinilodjalguien puede ayudarme?11:52
theineccidral, :)11:52
ompaulit?11:52
QMarioOmpaul, how do I manually set my computer's IP Address in the terminal?11:52
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ompaulQMario, ifconfig11:52
QMarioOmpaul, are you surprised to hear from me?11:52
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ompaulQMario, we have not had you here for a while that was all11:52
lightbrightompaul: any ideas?11:52
QMarioI haven't heard from you in a while...11:53
ompaullightbright, timeout11:53
ccidraltheine: apt-cache search is more straightforeward11:53
cratel1how can I get 3d accel. to work with a VIA graphics card on Breezy? This is very important for me....11:53
lightbrightompaul: what is the solution please?11:53
preativeso, do you know what to do theine?11:53
theineccidral, but very verbose sometimes...11:53
lightbrightcratel1: how important is that for you? :)11:53
cratel1Is there a way I can see the default config file from Breezy when recompiling the kernel?11:53
TomBeehow do I find out the total size of a folder from the terminal?11:53
ccidralyeah11:53
cratel1lightbright: we are doing a VJ performance. It's not for games is my point.11:53
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ompaullightbright, well in the olde days I choose to run this command line >> ping -i 27 www.myprovider.ie << and it used to keep it going11:54
theinepreative, not sure, but it'll certainly be easier to help you when you can access your linux partitions11:54
trappistcratel1: look in /boot11:54
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preativedo you know how i can check to see if i have the kernal for it?11:54
lightbrightompaul: and in the last 3 days, never happened before, all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error?11:54
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theineccidral, also, http://packages.ubuntu.com offers you to search the contents of packages which is really useful imho11:54
preativebecause it sayd that  it cannot find the kernal image11:55
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ccidraltheine: I'll check it11:55
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cratel1trappist: I don't see a config file there that will help me recompile the kernel...11:55
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theinepreative, yes, you can check that with a live CD11:55
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preativebefore i get it to work i can check it or after?11:56
trappistcratel1: it would be named config-$(uname -r).  you would copy it to your kernel source tree as .config and say `make oldconfig`11:56
lightbrightompaul: all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error or Ubuntu error?11:56
ompaullightbright, to test ram, press escape and choose memtest go for a lonnnnng walk or something maybe even overnight and check in morning - if faulty ram it will show up11:56
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jeplerHi.  A friend and I are trying to build a modified kernel based on the ubuntu kernel, using build-kpkg.  The kernel deb we get doesn't include firmware, such as ipw-2.3-boot.fw.  Can someone point me at the documentation I need to read to get the kernel I build to include this file?  is build-kpkg the wrong thing to use?11:56
theinepreative, that you have to decide on your own I guess11:56
lightbrightompaul: ok and it ram is clear?11:56
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lightbrightompaul: and if ram is clear? what then?11:56
rambo3sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440, help ? does reinstall only work here11:56
BrickMakerKubuntu cd is free?11:56
ompaullightbright, a reasonable amount of time between asking questions is considered to be 10/20 minutes11:56
lightbrightBrickMaker: donations11:56
theinepreative, sorry, misread your sentence... you can check that before11:56
lightbrightompaul: according to whom?11:57
ompaullightbright, yuou have managed to get put on /ignore11:57
lightbrightompaul: who set the 10/20 minutes rule between asking questions?11:57
BrickMakerlightbright, i'm downloading Kubuntu i hope they ship kubuntu as well for free11:57
lightbrightompaul: no need to be nasty11:57
BrickMakerisn't it?11:57
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lightbrightBrickMaker: yeah11:57
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lightbrightBrickMaker: chose it from website11:58
jouni__mcratel1 cp /boot/config-2.6.12-something /usr/src/linux/.config and then load an alternative configuration. right idea?11:58
lightbrightompaul: but tell me, who set the 10/20 minutes rule between asking questions?  YOU set it?  are you channel founder and OP?11:58
pc3hellow11:58
preativewell i dont know... this is the first time i have tried any kind of linux, or livecd. i downloaded, burnt to cd, restarted comp and compaqe screen come on, then the ubunto boot screen, i hit enter it restarts and goes back to ubuntu, i try to check settings and it says no kernal found11:58
cratel1trappist: beautiful! I see it! So can I load that into, say gconfig and tweak it then recompile and I am golden?11:58
BrickMakerlightbright, what do you think which one is better?11:58
BrickMakerUbuntu or Kubuntu?11:58
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trappistcratel1: never heard of gconfig, but if it's anything like 'make xconfig' then yes11:59
lightbrightBrickMaker: i use Ubuntu, as any developer will tell you, gnome is more solid and stable than KDE11:59
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kehermananyone seen this error on bootup --> "device not accepting address XX, error -71" ???11:59
lightbrightBrickMaker: why use 2nd best, why not use the best, get Ubuntu :)11:59
lightbrighthondje: hello11:59
Zorlonlightbright: Actually in almost all irc channels it is considered correct behaviour to wait 10 or 20 minutes between asking questions...11:59
hondjeHi11:59
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lightbrighthondje:  all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error or Ubuntu error?11:59
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lightbrightZorlon: according to what OP?12:00
BrickMakerlightbright, yeah my friend told me same thing as you said, but what if i like Kubuntu12:00

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