[12:00] <BrickMaker> 1 folder at my desktop with jre name and i don't know about others file
[12:00] <gnomefreak> irssi in my opinion is the best :)
[12:00] <patrick__> is it possible to change the settings on the login screen so that it's on 60hurtz instead of 85, it makes my screen wabble.
[12:00] <rahul> mwe: yeah timings are correct even i probed it and its a nvidia card
[12:00] <cold> hmm I want to make a ubuntu bootdisk for my vmware machine, can someone tell me what files I need to copy ?
[12:00] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell patrick__ about fixres
[12:00] <rahul> bizzeh: no its a 256MB card
[12:00] <Bizzeh> rahul: is it a 512mb version?
[12:00] <Bizzeh> ohh
[12:01] <mwe> rahul: are you using the binary driver or the open source one?
[12:01] <Bizzeh> cos nivida arnt supporting the 512mb version after end of next month
[12:01] <witless> how can i get screen to use a scrollback bufffer?
[12:01] <flavien> Hi. Looking for help with sound card (nvidia Unknown device 026b (rev a2)).
[12:01] <mwe> !sound
[12:01] <lightbright> mwe: doesnt your system open up for security risks when you install wine and IE?
[12:01] <ubotu> well, sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[12:02] <Bizzeh> lightbright: is WINE windows?
[12:02] <patrick__> I saw a nice feature on FC4 called Display Settings that not only shows you your video adapter but also your monitor and restricts it to it's limitations, isn't there a similar config for ubuntu?
[12:02] <Bizzeh> no it isnt
[12:02] <Bizzeh> its a compatability layer
[12:02] <Bizzeh> so
[12:02] <lightbright> Bizzeh: no need to be condescending. I was asking mwe
[12:02] <Bizzeh> it is not subject to ALL the same bugs
[12:02] <rahul> mwe: its the binary version ....... in the package manager its written as nvidia-glx
[12:02] <rahul> NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org driver
[12:02] <mwe> lightbright: not really. I guess if you're unlucky you fake windows drive can be hosed
[12:02] <lightbright> mwe: ok thanks
[12:02] <mwe> lightbright: that's a subdir in your home dir if you don't know
[12:03] <lightbright> mwe: ok
[12:03] <LaserLine> Hello All, I have a problem for quite some time goig to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[12:03] <LaserLine> Anyone knows what's going on ?
[12:03] <mwe> lightbright: so just removing that and reinstalling IE would fix such potential problem
[12:03] <lightbright> mwe: ok
[12:03] <Seveas> LaserLine, hardware problems
[12:03] <rahul> mwe: even in xorg.conf card name is not displayed its written as Identifier	"NVIDIA Corporation NVIDIA Default Card"
[12:04] <webmaster> hoi
[12:04] <mwe> rahul: driver in xorg.conf?
[12:04] <LaserLine> Seveas, Do you know when the UbuntuForum's server will be fixed?
[12:04] <Seveas> LaserLine, no sooner than that the hardware problems are solved I guess
[12:05] <flavien> Went to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems
[12:05] <gnomefreak> LaserLine, they have been up and down for the past few days i would assume event he people working on it dont know when :(
[12:05] <flavien> Alsa docs say nvidia is snd-intel8x0
[12:05] <rahul> mwe: nvidia is written in driver
[12:05] <LaserLine> Seveas Ohh, ok - I hope they will be solved quickly, I'm using google's cache to try and work it...
[12:05] <metzger27> Could someone please help me with a dependency confliction?
[12:06] <flavien> However, when I modprobe this, I get nothing more...
[12:06] <rahul> mwe: driver version is 76.60 but its not written there
[12:06] <gnomefreak> flavien, are you looking for the name of the card?
[12:06] <beelzebub1987> Anyone Here Play Unreal Tournament 1999?
[12:06] <flavien> lspci | grep -i audio => Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026b (rev a2)
[12:07] <mwe> rahul: I don't know then. sorry
[12:07] <gnomefreak> flavien, is it an onboard card?
[12:07] <flavien> gnomefreak: yes.
[12:07] <rahul> mwe: ok :(
[12:07] <mwe> rahul: maybe someone else does
[12:07] <gnomefreak> im guessing thats why it gives the unknown device output
[12:07] <flavien> gnomefreak: Asrock K8NF4G
[12:07] <cactii> oh man do I have a problem....
[12:07] <rahul> mwe: yeah i am here ..... hope someone knows it
[12:07] <hulin> hello !
[12:07] <gnomefreak> flavien, is that you mobo info?
[12:07] <mailo> buona sera a tutti
[12:08] <gnomefreak> !es
[12:08] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[12:08] <flavien> gnomefreak. Yes that's my mobo info
[12:08] <mailo> salve
[12:08] <rahul> mwe: anyways thanks for the help
[12:08] <gnomefreak> flavien, go to the mobo site and see if they tell you
[12:08] <gnomefreak> what card it is
[12:08] <cactii> When I try to boot my machine I get an error...
[12:08] <flavien> gnomefreak: OK. Do it right away.
[12:08] <beelzebub1987> Anyone know when the forums will be back up?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> cactii, what error?
[12:08] <gnomefreak> beelzebub1987, no
[12:09] <beelzebub1987> =(
[12:09] <cactii> The error is _IcsTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp
[12:09] <metzger27> Could someone please help me with a conflict between two dependencies?
[12:09] <cactii> Can anybody help me.
[12:09] <beelzebub1987> I miss the forums ='(
[12:09] <AMDXP> beelzebub1987: me too
[12:09] <rahul> someone can help me with screen refresh rate :(
[12:09] <mailo> no inglisch
[12:09] <gnomefreak> metzger27, apt-get -f install corrects depends issues iirc
[12:09] <cactii> I'm in terminal window.... I'm not that good with Linux!
[12:09] <whyameye> I'm confused about AMD/Intel etc. If I have stuff compiled for the Intel 32 processors, will it run on an AMD or do I have to recompile? Both machines are ubuntu Breezy.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> mailo, what lang?
[12:10] <metzger27> Hah. No
[12:10] <flavien> gnomefreak: Realtek ALC850 7.1channel AC'97 audio codec
[12:10] <mailo> sorry no english
[12:10] <flavien> Hum...
[12:10] <rahul> someone can help me with screen refresh rate :(
[12:10] <gnomefreak> flavien, there you go :)
[12:10] <mailo> nessuno che parla italiano
[12:10] <gnomefreak> !it
[12:10] <ubotu> Vai su #ubuntu-it o su #kubuntu-it se vuoi parlare in italiano, in questo canale usiamo solo l'inglese. Grazie!
[12:10] <mailo> a ok grazie ora lo cerco
[12:10] <flavien> gnomefreak: realtek is not listed on alsa-doc.
[12:10] <gnomefreak> prego
[12:11] <JarG0n> When I try to copy this file, I get the following error message after typing  sudo cp \home\rgil\Desktop\temp\QuakeFiles\game000.pk4 \usr\local\games\quake4\q4base  ( cp: cannot stat `homergilDesktoptempQuakeFilesgame000.pk4': No such file or directory ) Why is it ignoring my backslash characters?
[12:11] <gnomefreak> flavien, than im not sure if it is supported or not
[12:11] <Seveas> JarG0n, use / not \
[12:11] <Seveas> it is not windows
[12:11] <JarG0n> whoops!
[12:11] <JarG0n> thx
[12:11] <AMDXP> anyone use xmame?
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  make sure the dirs are allready there.
[12:11] <mailo> grazie ancora e ciao
[12:11] <JarG0n> they are
[12:11] <JarG0n> I created it earlier
[12:11] <Dr_Willis> AMDXP,  yes.
[12:11] <AMDXP> i have some roms on a cd how can i start xmame
[12:11] <AMDXP> and use those roms
[12:12] <cactii> When I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this? I have no idea where to even start.
[12:12] <gnomefreak> metzger27, care to enlighten us on the full issue than and please dont pm me without asking
[12:12] <saif> hello, does any1 know how i can change the color of the background that appears with the splash screen!??
[12:12] <metzger27> Oh, I am sorry gnomefreak.
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> read th xmame docs. :O it has a  rompath option - i recall.. or copy them to the right dir for xmame to find them
[12:12] <Dr_Willis> xmame --help
[12:12] <mwe> JarG0n: the error is indicating you didn't use /
[12:12] <metzger27> Well, see I have libsmpeg0c2 installed on my machine, right?
[12:13] <_jason> saif: I *think* I do, I found it the other day in /etc/gdm/gdm.conf but haven't tested it out
[12:13] <cello_rasp> are there any tv card handling programs for ubuntu??
[12:13] <saif> _jason, will try it out now
[12:13] <swb> cello_rasp, kaffeine
[12:13] <rahul> is there any way to force refresh rate on linux :-/
[12:13] <swb> mplayer
[12:13] <Discipulus> how do I cd into a directory that begins with -
[12:13] <metalhedd> I'm getting  /var/lib/dpkg/info/phpmyadmin.prerm: line 12: db_get: command not found
[12:13] <metalhedd>  trying to remove phpmyadmin. can anyone help?!
[12:13] <ssstormy> cello_rasp, try searching in synaptic "tv card" or similar
[12:13] <metzger27> Gnomefreak: I need to install pygame, which depends on libsmpeg. But it needs libsmpeg0, and won't accept libsmpeg0c2 which I already have installed. It came installed with Ubuntu.
[12:13] <cactii> When I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this?
[12:14] <ssstormy> cello_rasp, and tell it to search the info, not jsut the names
[12:14] <nilsL> Could somebody recommend a good gui based ftp client?
[12:14] <gnomefreak> metzger27, paste the output of sudo apt-get install python-pygame please
[12:14] <swb> nilsL, gftp
[12:14] <AMDXP> gftp
[12:14] <JarG0n> where should *.run files go before I install them?
[12:14] <rahul> is there any way to force refresh rate on linux :-/
[12:14] <coach> hi@all
[12:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> pittsburgh's goin to the super bowl! yeaaa!
[12:14] <nilsL> swb: AMDXP except gfp
[12:14] <mwe> JarG0n: anywhere
[12:14] <coach> im sry, im a bloody noob to linux...
[12:14] <ssstormy> Discipulus, unusuall characters like a space are preceeded by a \
[12:14] <Seveas> CanYouHelpMePlz, -ETOPIC
[12:14] <lightbright> hello
[12:14] <mwe> JarG0n: what are you trying to install?
[12:14] <Discipulus> ssstormy, don't work
[12:14] <JarG0n> mwe: Thx, and to exec this, what do I use?  quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run
[12:14] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seveas: no idea what that means
[12:15] <ssstormy> nilsL, gftp
[12:15] <coach> i downloaded lazarus.....rpm and now i dont know how to go on
[12:15] <Discipulus> ssstormy, I've had this problem before but I often forget the solution by the next time I need to use it :-D
[12:15] <Seveas> CanYouHelpMePlz, that you're very off topic which is bad
[12:15] <lightbright> is it possible for a person to enter my system and download or read a text file I have on my hard drive? Is that possible at all?
[12:15] <ssstormy> Discipulus, ah I see
[12:15] <cactii> oh man I really don;t want to go back to windows...
[12:15] <AMDXP> flashfxp via wine
[12:15] <chx> hi. Where can I find a 1.0-8xxx nvidia-glx for Breezy?
[12:15] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Seveas: thats ok, i couldn't possibly be happier
[12:15] <metzger27> Gnomefreak: root@metzger:/home/metzger# apt-get install python-pygame
[12:15] <metzger27> Reading package lists... Done
[12:15] <metzger27> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:15] <metzger27> You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these:
[12:15] <metzger27> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[12:15] <nilsL> ssstormy: except gftp
[12:15] <ssstormy> oh
[12:15] <metzger27>   python2.4-pygame: Depends: libsmpeg0 but it is not installable
[12:15] <metzger27> E: Unmet dependencies. Try 'apt-get -f install' with no packages (or specify a solution).
[12:15] <mwe> JarG0n: chmod +x file.run. then you probably need sudo ./file.run
[12:15] <ssstormy> Discipulus, try " around the line
[12:15] <Discipulus> ssstormy, I tried quotes, didn't work
[12:15] <Discipulus> ssstormy, single, double, and ` don't work
[12:15] <ssstormy> nilsL, there's a port of filezilla... it's still in the works, but I like filezilla...
[12:16] <JarG0n> mwe: thx.  Can I ask what chmod does?  sets attributes?
[12:16] <whyameye> is something is compiled for Intel (IA-32?) will it run on a 64 bit AMD?
[12:16] <gnomefreak> didnt know i had to be spiceific on where to paste it :(
[12:16] <nilsL> ssstormy: ok thx
[12:16] <mwe> JarG0n: yeah chmod +x makes it executable
[12:16] <JarG0n> mwe: and before it is not executable?  Being a windows user, that seems a bit odd.
[12:16] <ssstormy> whyameye, I think so, but it won't use the full capabilities of 64 bit
[12:17] <JarG0n> yeah, it's not marked as executeable
[12:17] <Seveas> JarG0n, any security measure in ubuntu that actually makes sense is odd to windows users :)
[12:17] <JarG0n> Seveas: indeed
[12:17] <cactii> When I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Can anybody help me with this?
[12:17] <mwe> JarG0n: linux uses file permissions, not extensions to determine if it's an executeable
[12:17] <whyameye> ssstormy, and if I recompile, it will automatically take more advantage of the 64 bit, or would I have to set some flags or something or the configure code needs to detect etc...
[12:17] <JarG0n> mwe: sounds logical to me... I'm migrating :)
[12:18] <mwe> JarG0n: it is odd if you're not used to it
[12:18] <ssstormy> whyameye, sometimes programs will detect themselves and adjust (the ./configure stage we're talkking about)
[12:18] <JarG0n> yep
[12:18] <JarG0n> Do I need to sudo chmod first?
[12:18] <lightbright> is it possible for a person to enter my system and download or read a text file I have on my hard drive? Is that possible at all?  If so, how can I protect myself from such hackers?
[12:18] <mwe> JarG0n: you usually don't need to do that a lot
[12:18] <whyameye> ssstormy: so the compiler doesn't do this automatically. It has to be built by the source code developers, huh?
[12:18] <lightbright> mwe: any feedback?
[12:18] <Discipulus> ./- works
[12:18] <Discipulus> :-D
[12:18] <mwe> lightbright: to?
[12:18] <coach> hiho, what do i have to do with .rpm files?
[12:19] <ssstormy> lightbright, minimize the number of services you run that service the world
[12:19] <ssstormy> lightbright, run a firewall
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> lightbright,   with any 'security' breach - of course its possible.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> coach, you couldnt find a deb?
[12:19] <Dr_Willis> so keep the system as secure as possible
[12:19] <kent> lightbright, if you dont install any services manually then its not possible since ubuntu dont have any open services by default as far as I know
[12:19] <ssstormy> lightbright, use a router
[12:19] <coach> no, i'm sry
[12:19] <cactii> When I try and boot my machine I get the following error: _IceTransNoListen: unable to find transport: tcp Where do I start to correct this error???
[12:19] <ssstormy> lightbright, permanently shut down services like ssh and ftp, if you have them
[12:19] <gnomefreak> coach, what app is it?
[12:19] <coach> lazarus
[12:19] <metzger28> Gnomefreak: I pasted it elsewhere now.
[12:19] <gnomefreak> !info lazarus
[12:20] <JarG0n> kent: and to contrast Ubuntu against windows, Microsoft ships their product with ALL services enabled by default.  Go figure!
[12:20] <coach> !info lazarus
[12:20] <lightbright> ssstormy: shut down ssh and ftp?
[12:20] <ssstormy> JarG0n, not true.  just the ones you don't want
[12:20] <sagarp> where's the java 5.0 sdk as a package? the ubuntuforums appear to be down
[12:20] <JarG0n> right
[12:20] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell coach about rpm
[12:20] <lightbright> do I need to have ssh and ftp running all the time if I dont run a webserver?
[12:20] <mwe> well not quite all services are enabled by default in windows, but sure a lot of crap is
[12:20] <ssstormy> lightbright, well those aren't standard, but things like that are the biggest opening for the kinda thing you want to protect from
[12:20] <coach> !alien
[12:20] <lightbright> ssstormy: how can I see if ssh and ftp is running now?
[12:20] <ubotu> I heard alien is a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[12:21] <SkrotFFS> Where does ubuntu store firmware for hotplug (such as the firmware for ipw2200 cards)?
[12:21] <ratschnowski> hello, i need to convert mdf images to iso images, any idea how to do that with ubuntu?
[12:21] <kent> ssstormy, I thought there aren't any open services at all by default?
[12:21] <ssstormy> kent, there's a couple
[12:21] <mwe> SkrotFFS: /usr/lib/hotplug/firmware/
[12:21] <JarG0n> mwe:  chmod /home/rgil/Desktop/temp/QuakeFiles/quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run +x  results in ( chmod: invalid mode string: `/home/rgil/Desktop/temp/QuakeFiles/quake4-linux-1.0.6.x86.run' ) :(
[12:21] <lightbright> kent: how can I check to see?
[12:21] <steve__> hi all...does anybody know of any inventory control software for linux?
[12:21] <steve__> Preferably open source
[12:21] <mwe> JarG0n: wrong command
[12:21] <JarG0n> doh :(
[12:21] <Bizzeh> JarG0n: chmod +x /home/rgil/Des......
[12:21] <metzger27> Gnomefreak: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7498
[12:21] <SkrotFFS> mwe: That's what I though
[12:21] <mwe> JarG0n: chmod +x file.run
[12:21] <JarG0n> ah
[12:21] <ratschnowski> read smth about mdf2iso but cannot find that package
[12:22] <ssstormy> lightbright, go to administration->services
[12:22] <ratschnowski> or is there a way to burn mdf files?
[12:22] <kent> lightbright, there are some services on the internet which runs a port-scan to see whats open on your computer.  But if you know you havent installed like ftp, telnet etc then your ok.
[12:22] <ssstormy> (under system menu)
[12:22] <SkrotFFS> mwe: There's no /etc/init.d/hotplug btw?
[12:22] <mwe> JarG0n: use tab completion for the long file path
[12:22] <lightbright> kent: I dont think I installed that!  how can I be sure?
[12:22] <ssstormy> lightbright, but first and formost, install Firestarter from the repositries, and start up that
[12:22] <lightbright> ssstormy: im running firestarter now
[12:22] <mwe> SkrotFFS: there isn't?
[12:22] <ssstormy> lightbright, you don't need to use internet port scanners
[12:22] <mwe> SkrotFFS: there is here
[12:23] <steve__> anyone?
[12:23] <SkrotFFS> mwe: hmm! I'm running dapper btw
[12:23] <gnomefreak> metzger27, what does sudo apt-get -f install give you?
[12:23] <ssstormy> go to Applications->System Tools->Network Tools
[12:23] <JarG0n> mwe: what's tab completion??
[12:23] <mwe> SkrotFFS: it's broken.
[12:23] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[12:23] <SkrotFFS> mwe: And upon apt-get install hotplug I get "Note, selecting murasaki instead of hotplug"
[12:23] <ubotu> it has been said that dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[12:23] <ssstormy> that will provide all the network testing tools you need to scan yourself
[12:23] <mwe> SkrotFFS: it alpha software
[12:23] <steve__> also, how do i set up an epson all in one printer in ubuntu?
[12:23] <SkrotFFS> mwe: I know it is ;)
[12:23] <mwe> SkrotFFS: maybe install hotplug
[12:23] <lightbright> ssstormy: actions schedular (anacron and atd) is running in services!  is that safe?
[12:23] <ssstormy> find your IP (your modem's IP) and scan that
[12:23] <steve__> i set the printer up...i  think, but how do i do the scanner?
[12:23] <SkrotFFS> mwe: apt-get install hotplug says so
[12:23] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell steve_about printer
[12:23] <metzger27> Gnomefrak: It just asks if I want to uninstall pygame. IT is the only broken package I have right now.
[12:23] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah, those are local
[12:24] <lightbright> ssstormy: and actions schedular (cron) is running in services!  is that safe also?
[12:24] <gnomefreak> metzger27, than uninstall it
[12:24] <ssstormy> lightbright, port scanning yourself from your internet IP (not the 192.168..... one) will tell you all your open ports
[12:24] <metzger27> Gnomefreak: Then what?
[12:24] <ssstormy> lightbright, just look for stuff like ftp and ssh and apache
[12:24] <gnomefreak> metzger27, if its broken you dont want it after you uninstall it try to re-install it if you like
[12:24] <lightbright> ssstormy: and the only other services running are keylogger and gdm!  is that ok?
[12:24] <mwe> SkrotFFS: don't know. I heard hotplug is being dropped in dapper
[12:25] <lightbright> ssstormy: none of those appear in services
[12:25] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah you're fine
[12:25] <lightbright> ssstormy:  ftp and ssh and apache is not there
[12:25] <lightbright> ssstormy: so it looks like im ok then :)
[12:25] <SkrotFFS> mwe: Might be it then :)
[12:25] <ssstormy> lightbright, do the portscan now
[12:25] <lightbright> ssstormy: how do I do the portscan?
[12:25] <metzger27> Gnomefreak: IS there a certain way I should try to re-install it? I have tried this before and it doesn't bring me anywhere.
[12:25] <lightbright> ssstormy: I have my ip
[12:25] <ssstormy> lightbright, the menu: Applications->System Tools->Network Tools
[12:25] <mwe> SkrotFFS: some developer told me. I don't remember the replacement though
[12:26] <gnomefreak> metzger27, its just the lib you want?
[12:26] <metzger27> Yes.
[12:26] <ssstormy> lightbright, then go to port scan tab, and you can figure the rest
[12:26] <SkrotFFS> mwe: I see :)
[12:26] <lightbright> ssstormy: what IP address do I enter then?
[12:26] <metzger27> gnomefreak, yes.
[12:26] <gnomefreak> metzger27, open synaptic and search for the base of the lib
[12:26] <rahul> i am back
[12:26] <ssstormy> your internet IP address
[12:26] <gnomefreak> see if it gives you waht your looking for?
[12:26] <rahul> still anyone to help me
[12:26] <rahul> :)
[12:26] <ssstormy> lightbright, not the 192.168.XXX.XXX one
[12:26] <ssstormy> lightbright, if you have one of those
[12:27] <ssstormy> lightbright, that's a locla network IP, so it's not how the world sees you
[12:27] <lightbright> ssstormy: I typed /dns lightbright, is that the one I use?
[12:27] <ssstormy> no
[12:27] <JarG0n> When I get instructions that say "Type Quake4 to play", does this mean I must type this in a terminal window?
[12:27] <lightbright> ssstormy: I dont know any other
[12:27] <gnomefreak> JarG0n, yes
[12:27] <ssstormy> not unless you have your own domain name, registered with DynDNS or something
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  where else ya going to type it in at?
[12:27] <ssstormy> lightbright, just open firefox and type "my ip" in the address bar, hit enter
[12:27] <Dr_Willis> :)
[12:28] <lightbright> ssstormy: i am given a different IP everytime I log in
[12:28] <lightbright> ssstormy: ok
[12:28] <BrickMaker> _adam, hey can you help me with blackdown
[12:28] <BrickMaker> ?
[12:28] <lightbright> ssstormy: myip only took me to some website
[12:28] <rahul> help!!!!!!!!!!!!help!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[12:29] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rahul about helpme
[12:29] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah it should but make sure it's my ip with a space
[12:29] <coach> gnomefreak, ok, i converted the package and did sudo su and dpkg -i /home/myfolder/package.deb, what to do now?
[12:29] <gnomefreak> coach, i dont know i dont use rpms
[12:29] <gnomefreak> i use debs :)
[12:30] <coach> oh...but the proggs should be installed now?
[12:30] <RickBauer> How do you recover a lost password for IRC?
[12:30] <ssstormy> lightbright, www.whatismyip.com also works
[12:30] <gnomefreak> coach, dpkg -i installs the deb
[12:30] <rahul> gnomefreak: i can't chnge mine screen refresh rate to 72 Hz when the resolution is 1280x960
[12:30] <^Ocean^> is unrar-free broken in drapper ?  cuz i do unrar-free -x blah.rar says All ok but it dont extract anything
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell rahul about fixres
[12:30] <coach> ok, then thx...i will test it now and then go to bed, gn8@all
[12:30] <gnomefreak> ^Ocean^, everything is broken in dapper
[12:31] <ssstormy> ^Ocean^, just use the nonfree one
[12:31] <lightbright> ssstormy: I found this:  www.grc.com <-- it checks all ports
[12:31] <BrickMaker> _adam, hey are you there... please help me with blackdown i have delete sun jre
[12:31] <rahul> gnomefreak: i have tried that guide by stilll the option is not there
[12:31] <mwe> gnomefreak: everything? :)
[12:31] <ssstormy> lightbright, that wokrs too, I just like local tools :)
[12:31] <^Ocean^> ssstormy:  no apt-get for that is there ?
[12:31] <cello_rasp> is ubuntuforums still down?
[12:31] <bryan> heya ll, i have a question about apt...i use arch linux right now and the package manager (pacman) can remove a program and all of its deps that aren't still needed...is there an equivalent to apt?
[12:31] <gnomefreak> mwe its dapper most of the stuff is they even pulled the graphics out of it
[12:31] <pundai> hey ladies i just did an install from g3nt00 2 ubuntu and gnome seems to be _very_ slow in loading. its not using any cpu though the splash screen is taking forever
[12:31] <quacker> Aanyone get the gatos drivers to work with xorg?
[12:31] <ssstormy> ^Ocean^, yeah there is.
[12:31] <cactii> hehehe
[12:31] <cactii> fixed
[12:31] <lightbright> ssstormy: its the same as when I type /dns lightbright  :)
[12:32] <cactii> How did my permissions get changed on my files....
[12:32] <ssstormy> ^Ocean^, try something like apt-get install *rar*
[12:32] <rahul> hey anyone here with a samsung 753s moniter here
[12:32] <^Ocean^> ssstormy: what would it be i did at apt-cache search unrar and ill i came up with was comix and unrar-free
[12:32] <ssstormy> ^Ocean^, that will list all the candidates that fit *rar* and you can find the one you need
[12:32] <cactii> Does anybody know if there is a utility to configure laptop touchpads for Ubuntu???
[12:32] <ssstormy> lightbright, oh, sorry.  My bad :) dint' know that
[12:32] <metzger27> gnomefreak: Wow, thanks for the help. I cannot believe it was that easy. I don't know why I didn't work before.
[12:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: well someone just installed the nvidia binary driver in dapper for xorg
[12:32] <lightbright> ssstormy: it doesnt tell me anything when I scan!  so thats good sign yes? :)
[12:32] <BrickMaker> hi anyone, who can help me to enable Java applet at websites
[12:33] <pixelfairy> ill probalby add this to the wiki or something, but if anyone cares, to install cinelerra (video editor) do the apt repos like the cinelerra site says, then comment out the specific (non ubuntu ones) to install mplayer
[12:33] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: in firefox?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> mwe no i mean the newly added graphical stuff like the log-out and reboot things
[12:33] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah that's good
[12:33] <rahul> hey anyone here with a samsung 753s moniter here
[12:33] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, yeah
[12:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: oh
[12:33] <pixelfairy> the auto install doesnt work?
[12:33] <gnomefreak> metzger27, thats what synaptic is there for
[12:33] <ssstormy> lightbright, you're got pretty good security going.  the rest is up to your activities on the web :)
[12:33] <pixelfairy> its in the multiverse repo
[12:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: my data is to important for dapper anyway.
[12:33] <BrickMaker> i have download java manually
[12:34] <tigliona1bit> I'm getting "BADSIG 40976EAF437D05B5 Ubuntu Archive Automatic Signing Key" from http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy
[12:34] <lightbright> ssstormy: ok :) thanks
[12:34] <rahul> anyone know here that a latest nvidia graphics driver works on ubuntu or not :-/
[12:34] <gnomefreak> mwe unless you plan on running on a testing pc i dont recommend useing it :)
[12:34] <lightbright> ssstormy: for future refernece, www.grc.com does port scans
[12:34] <ssstormy> pixelfairy, whoa, tell me more.. what's the address?  I was trying to use cinelerra!
[12:34] <ssstormy> lightbright, k! XP
[12:35] <mwe> gnomefreak: no that's what I hear. I would never run a test release os here though
[12:35] <pixelfairy> ssstormy: ill make a quick write up
[12:35] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, so applets are working on your firefox
[12:35] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, if you are experience so help me to enable mine
[12:35] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: yea
[12:35] <bobbyd> hi
[12:35] <pixelfairy> you make a sym link to the run time plug in
[12:35] <lightbright> ssstormy: XP?
[12:35] <gnomefreak> mwe they did fix alot of the issues dapper had but theres still alot to go :)
[12:36] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: hold on, im going to do the cinelerra thing first
[12:36] <ssstormy> lightbright, like a :), with crossed eyes and sticking out his tongue
[12:36] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, Okay!
[12:36] <bobbyd> anyone here runnign on a G5? I have the opportunity of picking one up cheap and just wondred how ubuntu would run on it.
[12:36] <gnomefreak> <<wants a cheap g5 :(
[12:36] <quacker> gnomefreak, that's a contradiction, heh
[12:36] <bobbyd> gnomefreak, I'm getting two for 100 each :)
[12:37] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:37] <rahul> someone tell me how to install this file  NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run
[12:37] <BrickMaker> whats g5 is actully lol
[12:37] <gnomefreak> g5 is the processer in the macs
[12:37] <lightbright> ssstormy: that website said NO ports are seen and my system is in perfect stealth mode :)
[12:37] <quacker> a mac g5?
[12:37] <gnomefreak> thats changing  :)
[12:37] <bobbyd> yes
[12:37] <rahul> someone tell me how to install this file  NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-8178-pkg1.run
[12:38] <gnomefreak> g6 will not be g6 it will be intel :)
[12:38] <BrickMaker> i'v never seen macs
[12:38] <mjbjr> I'm trying to help  someone update firefox (remotely)... where/how do you do this from the gui?
[12:38] <quacker> gnomefreak, yeah, they've sold out to wintel
[12:38] <mwe> rahul: why not use the ubuntu pacages?
[12:38] <gnomefreak> rahul, on the site you got the run file from should tell you
[12:38] <lightbright> ssstormy: Your system has achieved a perfect "TruStealth" rating
[12:38] <pundai> can someone explain why gnome is taking so freaking long to start up :)
[12:39] <pixelfairy> mwe: the packages dont always work, they do on one comp here, but not on the other
[12:39] <lightbright> ssstormy: what does it say about your system?
[12:39] <mjbjr> remotely meaning, I'm talking to them over the phone
[12:39] <pixelfairy> also, the package includes a neat lil config thingy
[12:39] <pixelfairy> i mean the nvidia installer does
[12:39] <rahul> mwe: coz the driver in the ubuntu package is 76.60 and that is not having support for 7800GTX
[12:39] <zblach> hi, with what do I rip mp3s?
[12:39] <rahul> gnomefreak: chking the site for instructions
[12:39] <ssstormy> lightbright, I have a couple of ports open
[12:39] <pixelfairy> rahul: chmod +x blahblah.run && ./blahblah.run
[12:40] <pixelfairy> rahul: but make sure X is not running when you do it
[12:40] <ssstormy> zblach, sound juicer
[12:40] <pixelfairy> youll need the kernel headers installed
[12:40] <pixelfairy> and gcc-3.4
[12:40] <zblach> ssstormy, having a couple problems with sound juicer
[12:40] <pixelfairy> i think theres a wiki page on it
[12:40] <rahul> pixelfairy : thanks ....trying
[12:40] <lightbright> ssstormy: which ones?
[12:40] <lightbright> ssstormy: did you do a ALL PORTS scan?
[12:40] <pixelfairy> rahul: look for the wiki page
[12:40] <mfv> hi... is there an expat development package for Hoary?
[12:40] <pixelfairy> i probalby left something out
[12:40] <rahul> pixelfairy : i trid everything written on that page but its not working
[12:41] <ssstormy> lightbright, i used my local utility
[12:41] <pundai> how can i check wtf gnome is doing
[12:41] <pixelfairy> i usually do that in slackware, but it did work
[12:41] <pundai> its taking forever
[12:41] <rahul> pixelfairy : u are talking about the guide to install nvidia driver right ???
[12:41] <pixelfairy> im using an ubuntu done that way now with a 6600
[12:41] <ssstormy> lightbright, I'm not gonna broadcast my ports to the world :)
[12:41] <pixelfairy> yea
[12:41] <lightbright> ssstormy: https://www.grc.com/x/ne.dll?bh0bkyd2
[12:41] <pixelfairy> i didnt read it, just saw that it was there
[12:41] <pundai> even failsafe isnt working
[12:41] <lightbright> ssstormy: try that it does a port scan
[12:41] <lightbright> ssstormy: and gives a report
[12:42] <lightbright> ssstormy: go to http://www.grc.com/default.htm and chose SHIELDS UP!
[12:42] <gnomefreak> remember for every portscanning tool ther eis always another one that gives differnet output :)
[12:42] <jamesson> now, what was that sudo command again?
[12:42] <cello_rasp> whats the latest ubu breezy kernel?
[12:42] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12
[12:42] <BrickMaker> 2.6.12.10
[12:42] <lightbright> cello_rasp: 2.6.12-10-686
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> how do I select my sound card?
[12:43] <geoffWA> how do i mount an external hard drive in ubuntu
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> I have more than one sound card
[12:43] <jamesson> help please, x won't start
[12:43] <gnomefreak> spanglesontoast, turn one off
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> no I wish to switch one to the primary one
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> I need both on
[12:43] <lightbright> spanglesontoast: turn your onboard one off in your BIOS
[12:43] <spanglesontoast> no cos I need it on for doze
[12:43] <lightbright> spanglesontoast: why?
[12:44] <gnomefreak> spanglesontoast, with both enabled i dont think either will work
[12:44] <spanglesontoast> it supports my surround sound
[12:44] <spanglesontoast> they work fine in fedora
[12:44] <gnomefreak> spanglesontoast, this isnt fedora :(
[12:44] <lightbright> spanglesontoast: ubuntu is not fedora :P
[12:44] <VoX> heh
[12:44] <ssstormy> lightbright, yeah I'm pretty much closed up
[12:44] <mwe> they're both linux though
[12:44] <BrickMaker> yeah
[12:44] <lightbright> spanglesontoast: some things work in ubuntu that doesnt with fedora and vice versa
[12:44] <gnomefreak> spanglesontoast, keep in mind not all linux distros support the same things
[12:44] <lightbright> ssstormy: what ports were open?
[12:45] <lightbright> ssstormy: 100% of all my ports were closed :)
[12:45] <ssstormy> 22
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> what just cos it doesn't come with system-config-sound
[12:45] <ssstormy> lightbright, but it's open cause i want it to be
[12:45] <spanglesontoast> ..
[12:45] <lightbright> ssstormy: whats 22 used for?
[12:45] <cello_rasp> how do i chack for kernel ver?
[12:45] <gnomefreak> ssh
[12:45] <ssstormy> USUALLY it's for ssh, a remote login protocol
[12:45] <BrickMaker> lightbright, how do you know your 100% ports are closed?
[12:45] <lightbright> ssstormy: ah ok
[12:45] <zblach> having problems with soundjuicer
[12:45] <mwe> when it comes to hardware all linux distros should support pretty much the same hardware with a little tweaking now and then
[12:45] <lightbright> BrickMaker: port scanning report
[12:45] <jamesson> help please, x won't start
[12:45] <Sputn1k> http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/3640/nuotrauka7km.png why i can't mark thouse 2boxes for ssl?
[12:46] <BrickMaker> cello_rasp, uname -r
[12:46] <lightbright> BrickMaker:  go to http://www.grc.com/default.htm and chose SHIELDS UP!
[12:46] <zblach> "could not extract, reason : invalid parameters"
[12:46] <Sputn1k> maybie i need some libs?
[12:46] <ssstormy> lightbright, Brickmaker does have a point though, cause Green is stealth, not closed, and that only scans first 1500
[12:46] <ssstormy> lightbright, you do realize there are a bajillion ports
[12:46] <lightbright> ssstormy: so what else can I do?
[12:46] <ssstormy> lightbright, don't worry about it; you can't ever know for sure and be absolutly sure
[12:46] <ssstormy> but you're pretty good right now
[12:46] <lightbright> ssstormy: yeah true
[12:46] <quacker> Anyone get the CATV in working on an original 32 MB Radeon AIW?
[12:47] <gnomefreak> there is no such thing as one port scanning tool that will see every port
[12:47] <amonkey> what's the best way to do transparencys in gnome?
[12:47] <largo24> gnomefreak, http://scan.sygate.com/?
[12:47] <ssstormy> lightbright, lemme put it this way.  Odds are, if someone really wanted in, you wouldn't be able to stop them (if they knew what they were doing)
[12:47] <cello_rasp> amonkey: png
[12:47] <mwe> there is but it would take a very long time
[12:47] <gnomefreak> largo24, ????
[12:47] <ssstormy> lightbright, the only perfect security is to not connect to the internet
[12:47] <cello_rasp> ur srry me am dum
[12:47] <lightbright> ssstormy: yeah true
[12:48] <amonkey> cello_rasp, i meant for the windows
[12:48] <senkila> quick question, Is it me or are the forums down?
[12:48] <quacker> ssstormy, there are 65536 ports numbered from 0-65535 which can send/recieve using either UDP or TCP
[12:48] <lightbright> ssstormy: but I only seek to make it most secure as human possible for me
[12:48] <jamesson> sudo comannd to reconfig x anyone?
[12:48] <cello_rasp> forums down
[12:48] <senkila> darn...
[12:48] <cello_rasp> ..da forums always down..
[12:48] <ssstormy> lightbright, yup and you're pretty much there
[12:48] <senkila> ><
[12:48] <rahul> while installing the driver i am getting this error "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match ur kernel ..... do u want serch for the kernel interface for ur kernel on the nvidia site"
[12:48] <quacker> lightbright, then disconnect it from the Inet -- heh
[12:48] <mwe> senkila: it's been up and down, up and down ... all the time lately
[12:48] <spanglesontoast> so is there a proper way of switching
[12:48] <ssstormy> quacker, see?  a bajjillion
[12:48] <quacker> ssstormy, hardly... =P
[12:49] <ssstormy> quacker, 1 bajjillion = 65536
[12:49] <pundai> is there any package that will bring in all gnome desktop stuff
[12:49] <BrickMaker> lightbright, and ssstormy come in #flood
[12:49] <lightbright> quacker:  I only seek to make it most secure as human possible for me and still be connected to the Inet ;)
[12:49] <senkila> unreadable-name-apart-from-"we": well that sucks
[12:49] <quacker> lightbright, LOL
[12:49] <defendguin> anyone know how to reset an ipod?  remove all music and info from it?
[12:49] <ssstormy> BrickMaker, um what's that mean?
[12:49] <lightbright> quacker: L(
[12:49] <senkila> Defend, tried formatting it?
[12:49] <gnomefreak> sync it
[12:49] <quacker> lightbright, apt-get install checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille
[12:49] <quacker> then conf them all
[12:50] <ssstormy> defendguin, no don't format
[12:50] <pundai> heeeeeeeeelllo is there any package that will bring in all gnome desktop stuff
[12:50] <quacker> and turn off any unused services using ubuntu's service manager
[12:50] <pundai> it seems my install didn't install alll the required gnome stuff
[12:50] <lightbright> quacker: sounds complicated :P
[12:50] <cello_rasp> defendguin: gnupod... or use the ippod update (really a eraser) on win[e] 
[12:50] <defendguin> so far i am disgusted with all linux ipod applications
[12:50] <mwe> pundai: no, but ubuntu-desktop will get a lot
[12:50] <rahul> while installing the driver i am getting this error "no precompiled kernel interface was found to match ur kernel ..... do u want serch for the kernel interface for ur kernel on the nvidia site" anyone knows wat is the problem even selecting yes gives me message that no kernel interface found
[12:50] <mwe> pundai: why would you want everything?
[12:51] <Kyral> rahul: just compile it
[12:51] <pundai> mwe, i dont know why my install was borked
[12:51] <pundai> is there a way i can get the base install?
[12:51] <Kyral> the installer will do it for you
[12:51] <pundai> mwe it didnt even install metacity
[12:51] <gnomefreak> lol @ just compile it
[12:51] <quacker> (I.e. cupsys, (port 623) smbd (ports 135, 137, 139) and nfsd)
[12:51] <cello_rasp> defendguin: try the iPod shuffle Database Builder if you have a shuffle.. it is awesome!
[12:51] <mwe> pundai: I don't think installing everything will fix your problem
[12:51] <lightbright> quacker: whats checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille?
[12:51] <Kyral> gnomefreak: in this case the thing does it for you
[12:51] <gnomefreak> Kyral, compiling a kernel is different than a package right?
[12:51] <pundai> mwe... then?
[12:51] <mwe> pundai: install ubuntu-desktop
[12:51] <defendguin> cello_rasp, i have a mini
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ohhhhhh
[12:51] <pundai> mwe ok :(
[12:51] <amonkey> if i want my windows to be tranparent, how can i do that in gnome?
[12:51] <ssstormy> lightbright, a bunch of security packages
[12:51] <gnomefreak> if apt does it for me just sit back and watch :)
[12:51] <rahul> kyral: compile the driver or the kernel
[12:52] <lightbright> quacker: why did you say I shold install checksecurity aide cron anacron snort bastille?
[12:52] <quacker> lightbright, look up the descriptions in your package manager of choice
[12:52] <lightbright> ok
[12:52] <Kyral> rahul: the Kernel Module(Driver)
[12:52] <cello_rasp> defendguin: did you try gnupod?
[12:52] <mwe> amonkey: by some powerful hardware and a lot of ram and read the forum howto
[12:52] <quacker> lightbright, they're not that hard to configure (except snort) -- they have scripts
[12:52] <rahul> kyral: how to do that ???
[12:52] <spanglesontoast> I mean it's the most simplest thing in the world
[12:52] <Kyral> rahul: the Nvidia Installer right?
[12:52] <defendguin> cello_rasp, nope
[12:52] <spanglesontoast> switching the default sound card
[12:52] <amonkey> mwe, ram and i are good friends.
[12:52] <rahul> kyral : yeah
[12:52] <pixelfairy> ssstormy: http://pixelfairy.org/quickies/cinelerra.html
[12:52] <defendguin> i tried banshee gkpod
[12:52] <defendguin> gtkpod
[12:52] <mwe> amonkey: good
[12:52] <quacker> lightbright, you can also jsut by a 'broadband Inet gateway' or 'home office router'
[12:53] <Kyral> rahul: make sure you have Build-Essiential installed, gcc-3.4, and the kernel headers for your kernel
[12:53] <cello_rasp> gnupod are commandline tools but you can write bash or even nautilus scripts to handle them, they are rock solid too :)
[12:53] <lightbright> quacker: im also using rootkithunter, that good?
[12:53] <defendguin> rhythmbox just doesnt do anything with an ipod except for play music form it
[12:53] <amonkey> defendguin, i got one for you. amarok kicks serious ass.
[12:53] <ssstormy> pixelfairy, sweetness
[12:53] <gnomefreak> yeah see thats not good
[12:53] <pixelfairy> ssstormy: i havent had a chance to test the whole set up
[12:53] <gnomefreak> debain repos can and will break ubuntu
[12:53] <pixelfairy> sooo... ummm... tell me if it sucks :)
[12:53] <defendguin> amonkey, amarok is a qt application
[12:53] <quacker> The LInux kernel IPv4 implementation has source-routed packet filtering built-in -- it just ahs to be enabled (might be the default setting on Ubuntu)
[12:54] <rahul> kyral : thanks i am trying to figure out wats that
[12:54] <Kyral> rahul: then just run it, when it sees that there is no precompiled interface it will offer to compile it
[12:54] <lightbright> quacker: you use rootkithunter also?
[12:54] <amonkey> defendguin, did i miss a requirement up there? i love it personnally.
[12:54] <quacker> lightbright, if yoiu get a rootkit that it know how to detect -- yes, but at that point I think you're hooped anyhow.
[12:54] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: im pretty sure the autoinstaller should work
[12:54] <Phalanx> Hey I\ve got a big problem... I saved 2 text documents on my previous ubuntu install... 2 hours later on my fresh new clean kde / ubuntu install. I can\t view those documents without seeing binary text, please what\s going on_
[12:54] <cello_rasp> is qt still taboo??
[12:54] <rahul> kyral : yeah it was there but after that it given some error like kernel was compiled with gcc 3.4 and now the gcc version is gcc 4 so it can't be done
[12:54] <ssstormy> pixelfairy, that's ok, I'm sure I can stumble through
[12:55] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, i don't know about auto installer
[12:55] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, tell me more about it
[12:55] <Kyral> rahul: install gcc-3.4
[12:55] <pundai> cello_rasp, qt is for those hippies
[12:55] <quacker> lightbright, the best staregy is to KEEP rootkits OUT
[12:55] <pixelfairy> ssstormy: its what i just did to install mplayer and cinelerra
[12:55] <Kyral> rahul: then export CC=gcc-3.4
[12:55] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: the auto installer in firefox
[12:55] <Kyral> then try it
[12:55] <gnomefreak> rahul, sudo apt-get install build-essential
[12:55] <studio208203> is there a way to view my text documents
[12:55] <pixelfairy> when you go to a page iwth it, it will try to download and install it
[12:55] <quacker> also aegis-virusscanner and ClamAV are your friends (especially if you have an SMTP node)
[12:55] <Kyral> gnomefreak: build-essential installs 4
[12:55] <gnomefreak> studio208203, yes open it with gedit or OOo
[12:55] <BrickMaker> yeah did'nt work, so i hit manually download
[12:55] <pundai> mwe sweet need to get 519 packages :S
[12:56] <rahul> thanks kyral and gnomefreak
[12:56] <gnomefreak> oh he didnt want 4?
[12:56] <rahul> trying
[12:56] <gnomefreak> :(
[12:56] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: did you install that?
[12:56] <Kyral> gnomefreak: the Breezy Kernel is compiled with 3.4
[12:56] <pixelfairy> there should be a javasomething.so
[12:56] <gnomefreak> 2.6.12 is
[12:56] <pixelfairy> that you can sym link to
[12:56] <studio208203> gedit was not able to automatically detect the character coding. Please, check that you are not trying to open a binary file and try again selecting a character coding in the 'Open File...' (or 'Open Location') dialog.
[12:56] <Kyral> gnomefreak: cat /proc/version
[12:56] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, yeah twice but still facing problem!
[12:56] <gnomefreak> Kyral, good luck that wont work here
[12:56] <Kyral> studio208203: what extension
[12:56] <gnomefreak> lol
[12:56] <Kyral> gnomefreak: I was telling YOU to do it
[12:56] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, i hope you maybe help me much better then others!
[12:57] <gnomefreak> Kyral, i cant im not on linux atm
[12:57] <Stormx2> Could someone give me some alternatives to The GIMP?
[12:57] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: how did you install java?
[12:57] <studio208203> funny thing it\s listed as type unknown
[12:57] <Kyral> its how you figure out what GCC your kernel is compiled with
[12:57] <cello_rasp> studio208203: nano filname.ext :P
[12:57] <lightbright> quacker: http://www.rootkit.nl/articles/rootkit_hunter_faq.html
[12:57] <Kyral> studio208203: file <filename>
[12:57] <studio208203> I just saved it on my previous ubuntu
[12:57] <Kyral> it will tell you what type it is
[12:57] <Azunai> hi guys
[12:57] <studio208203> k
[12:57] <Kyral> and it works ;P
[12:57] <ssstormy> pixelfairy, that's fine, I couldn't find cinelerra anywhere and it wouldn't compile well from source
[12:57] <rahul> kyral: i am getting this message " sudo apt-get install gcc-3.4
[12:57] <amonkey> Azunai, hi
[12:57] <rahul> Reading package lists... Done
[12:57] <rahul> Building dependency tree... Done
[12:57] <rahul> gcc-3.4 is already the newest version.
[12:57] <rahul> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 56 not upgraded.
[12:57] <rahul> "
[12:57] <Azunai> i have a ati driver issue as im new to linux can anyone help
[12:57] <BrickMaker> pixelfairy, ./jre.bin
[12:57] <amonkey> the forums, are they down?
[12:57] <studio208203> data
[12:57] <Azunai> amonkey : hi
[12:57] <BrickMaker> chmod +x jr
[12:57] <Kyral> rahul: then just do this: export CC=gcc-3.4
[12:57] <cello_rasp> yes da forums r down
[12:57] <amonkey> poo
[12:58] <Kyral> rahul: then run the installer (sudo it of course)
[12:58] <senkila> my thoughts exactly amonkey
[12:58] <studio208203> it\s listed as data, and nano views it in weird characters
[12:58] <mfv> found the answer - the package name is libexpat1-dev... a little tricky to find
[12:58] <rahul> kyral: ok
[12:58] <Azunai> can anyone advise me on a driver install?
[12:58] <amonkey> any idea when they will back? was it planned?
[12:58] <senkila> nvidia-glx?
[12:58] <quacker> lightbright, I'd relax though, most worms and trojan propagate through insecure M$ implementations of protocols like SMB (NetBIOS/NTLanManager), HTML (IE/Windows explorer) ActiveX, DCOM+, RDP and of course SMTP 'M$ VirusLook Express'
[12:58] <studio208203> I\ts vital I can view those 2 documents since they contain evry password for my setup
[12:58] <Azunai> no an ATI driver :)
[12:58] <senkila> amonkey: the forums have been like that for awhile
[12:58] <patrick_> Anyone here good with Gtkam and configuring it?  the program stop responding when I open a directory of my camera "Olympus D-360L" and then if you let it sit, the program just closes.
[12:58] <lightbright> quacker: ok
[12:58] <pixelfairy> BrickMaker: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats see "Java on Mozilla Firefox"
[12:58] <pixelmonkey> I cannot connect to my Ubuntu system using X11 forwarding, not even if I try it locally using ssh -X localhost.  When I try to run X11 applications, I get "X11 connection rejected because of wrong authentication."  ANyone know what's up?
[12:58] <senkila> Azunai: no idea, always ued Nvidia =p
[12:58] <pixelfairy> thats what i did
[12:59] <amonkey> senkila, they only go down when i need them, sorry guys
[12:59] <Azunai> Senkila: damn lol
[12:59] <senkila> amonkey: same here T_T
[12:59] <senkila> Azunai: ;)
[12:59] <Azunai> ok im totaly new at linux
[12:59] <Azunai> here is my problem
[12:59] <Kyral> pixelmonkey: do you have it enabled in your sshdconf? /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[12:59] <Azunai> i have the driver i need i think
[12:59] <lightbright> Azunai: i have a website for you
[12:59] <gnomefreak> night all
[12:59] <studio208203> is there a way_
[12:59] <Azunai> its a rpm file so how do i install it?
[12:59] <studio208203> nigh gnome
[12:59] <patrick_> no help for gtkam?
[01:00] <Azunai> go ahead lightbright?
[01:00] <lightbright> Azunai: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands
[01:00] <Kyral> Azunai: look for a Deb?
[01:00] <BrickMaker> pixelmonkey, i done it with the same way but nothing happend
[01:00] <pundai> Azunai, use alien
[01:00] <Azunai> Kyral there isnt one
[01:00] <Azunai> alien?
[01:00] <Azunai> whats alien?
[01:00] <studio208203> like I said, I saved&created those 2 documents on my old ubuntu install 2 hours ago, ftp from my other hdd to this new clean install and they are now turning up as binarys
[01:00] <Kyral> O_o
[01:00] <Kyral> what driver
[01:00] <pundai> Azunai, you want to install an rpm right
[01:00] <Azunai> yes
[01:00] <pixelmonkey> Kyral, yes
[01:00] <BrickMaker> pixelmonkey, join me in #flood
[01:00] <Azunai> seen as thats the only version i can find
[01:00] <amonkey> anyone know a good cache site? the google cache of the forum page i want isn't working
[01:00] <studio208203> Kyral...sorry m8, but is there a way, can I convert em or something *noob here
[01:01] <pundai> Azunai, then alien
[01:01] <Kyral> studio208203: sorry...this is the first I have heard of this problem...
[01:01] <senkila> amonkey: no idea ><!
[01:01] <lightbright> Azunai: http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide
[01:01] <Azunai> Pundai: i have no idea what u mean by alien
[01:01] <pundai> gosh
[01:01] <pundai> google alien rpm
[01:01] <Discipulus> Azunai, he means use alien to install the rpm
[01:01] <lightbright> !alien
[01:01] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[01:01] <pundai> !ggl alien rpm
[01:01] <ubotu> pundai: I haven't a clue
[01:01] <pundai> !rw
[01:01] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, pundai
[01:02] <Discipulus> !Disicpulus the Great
[01:02] <ubotu> Discipulus: Huh?
[01:02] <Discipulus> lol
[01:02] <lightbright> Azunai: alien has always given me problems
[01:02] <Kyral> pixelmonkey: hmm...It works for me...hmm indeed
[01:02] <Azunai> see now thats tech support direct urls :)
[01:02] <rahul> kyral: it is still giving the same error
[01:02] <studio208203> Kyral. hmm I see... well i\m pretty much screwed if I cant view em, tx anyways man
[01:02] <Azunai> is there no way to sort of extract an rpm or something
[01:02] <Kyral> rahul: no compile?
[01:02] <Azunai> other than using alien?
[01:02] <rahul> kyral: prompting me to change the cc environment to gcc-3.4
[01:02] <Discipulus> Azunai, no
[01:03] <Kyral> rahul: thats what export CC=gcc-3.4 should do
[01:03] <Kyral> try it in two steps
[01:03] <Azunai> hmm damn
[01:03] <senkila> Anyway guys, i'll catch you lot later....NWN summons my l337 mage skills
[01:03] <rahul> kyral: that i have done export cc=gcc-3.4
[01:03] <Kyral> rahul: CC=gcc-3.4 <RETURN> export CC
[01:03] <senkila> -=skitters off to pwn people with bad builds=-
[01:03] <VR823> hey all, where can i get the default sources.list?
[01:03] <Kyral> rahul: CC has to be Captial
[01:04] <rahul> kyral: ok i am doing it again
[01:04] <Kyral> Unix is VERY case sensitive
[01:04] <Kyral> A != a ;P
[01:05] <pundai> can someone explain why totem sucks
[01:05] <JarG0n> Does anyone recognize what shared library this is?  Should it come preinstalled with something? ./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:05] <Azunai> ok im totaly confused which driver do i download and install
[01:05] <Kyral> pundai: its not that Totem sucks
[01:05] <Azunai> https://support.ati.com/ics/support/default.asp?deptID=894&task=knowledge&folderID=300
[01:05] <Kyral> its that GStreamer sucks ;P
[01:05] <Kyral> Azunai: try sudo apt-get install fglrx
[01:06] <pundai> Kyral, either way
[01:06] <pundai> it can't play anything
[01:06] <Azunai> fglrx?
[01:06] <Azunai> from root?
[01:06] <rahul> kyral: now its giving message "unable to find the kernel source tree"
[01:06] <Kyral> yah
[01:06] <Azunai> ok one sec
[01:06] <Pradu> Hi, I am using Ubuntu right now and have installed gcc already.  But when I do sudo apt-get install codeblocks it doesn't work.
[01:06] <studio208203> Kyral I solved it
[01:06] <studio208203> I used a binary / text converter >D
[01:06] <Kyral> rahul: sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[01:06] <Azunai> couldnt find package fglrx
[01:07] <studio208203> I cant use smilies on my keyboard setup, but i am happy xD
[01:07] <Kyral> Azunai: then apt-cache search fglrx
[01:07] <Kyral> !info codeblocks
[01:07] <AlinuxOS> ubuntuforums is still dead :(((
[01:07] <Pradu> !info codeblocks
[01:07] <VR823> where can i get the default sources.list?
[01:07] <pundai> Pradu, i dont think codeblocks has a package
[01:07] <Azunai> ok i got loads of stuff come up
[01:07] <Kyral> ubotu tell VR823 about sources
[01:07] <cold> anyone know how to create a ubuntu bootdisk ?
[01:08] <Azunai> lol what am i looking for
[01:08] <Kyral> Azunai: look for the one thats like xserver-drive
[01:08] <rahul> kyral: i think it will take some time as it ...... do i need to anything else after that or just compile the driver
[01:08] <pundai> cold, forget ubuntu boot disks
[01:08] <pundai> just get tomsrbt
[01:08] <VR823> Kyral  thanks
[01:08] <Kyral> rahul: that should be it
[01:08] <lightbright> quacker: when I try to run bastille, it says: WARNING: /usr/bin/perl cannot find Perl module Tk.
[01:08] <pundai> 99% of the time that will do what you need it to do
[01:08] <lightbright> quacker: any solution?
[01:08] <rahul> kyral: its done
[01:08] <cello_rasp> i havea bttv-based card but there is no /dev/video entry
[01:08] <cold> pundai what is that ?
[01:08] <pundai> its a rescue disk
[01:08] <VR823> !easysource
[01:08] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[01:09] <rahul> kyral: i am going to try it again
[01:09] <Azunai> closest thing to that would be xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:09] <Kyral> rahul: If you closed the term you'll need to export again
[01:09] <Kyral> Azunai: thats it
[01:09] <FunkyELF> I run Gentoo, and since everything is done manually, I controll what gets written to the MBR.  I guess I'm just wondering how much say I have in the partitioning scheme and the bootloader
[01:09] <Azunai> so what do i do?
[01:09] <rahul> kyral: ok
[01:09] <Kyral> also try fglrx-config
[01:09] <Kyral> Azunai: install it
[01:09] <FunkyELF> I want to make a dual boot machine.  Does the installer for ubuntu allow for this?
[01:09] <Kyral> FunkyELF: as much as you want lol
[01:09] <Azunai> apt-get install fglrx-config?
[01:09] <cold> pundai u talking about the one that come with the ubuntu installation disk ?
[01:09] <Kyral> FunkyELF: there is the basic and Expert
[01:09] <Kyral> Azunai: and the xserver driver thing
[01:10] <Azunai> so apt-get xorg-driver-fglrx
[01:10] <Kyral> sudo apt-get install
[01:10] <Azunai> i was already in root
[01:10] <Azunai> itd downloadin some stuff
[01:10] <Kyral> Azunai: don't make a hait of that....
[01:11] <Kyral> habit even
[01:11] <Azunai> no i ment loged into console as root
[01:11] <Kyral> yah
[01:11] <Kyral> still
[01:11] <Azunai> did it as soon as i logged onto here
[01:11] <Kyral> don't make a habit ;P
[01:11] <Azunai> i wont :)
[01:11] <Azunai> try and avoid console as much as i can incase i screw something up
[01:11] <Kyral> anyway install fglrx-config as well
[01:11] <Azunai> ok
[01:11] <Kyral> Oh the console is safe
[01:11] <quacker> lightbright, try installing Tk8.4 seperately and look in the 'recommended' section for the Perl mod (using Synaptic)
[01:11] <Kyral> if you don't login as root all the time...
[01:12] <Azunai> no i always login to gnome as me
[01:12] <Azunai> then sudo su in console if i need it
[01:12] <Azunai> man ive learned alot today i only installed linux 20 mins ago
[01:12] <Azunai> lol
[01:12] <Kyral> lol
[01:12] <Kyral> See
[01:12] <quacker> lightbright, or search the Development section
[01:12] <Kyral> IMO, you learn more by breaking
[01:12] <Azunai> never used it before
[01:12] <Kyral> then having the GUI do it for you ;P
[01:13] <Azunai> u mean fglrx conroll
[01:13] <Azunai> ?
[01:13] <VR823> when i do sudo apt-get update, i get the following message: GPG error: http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release: Couldn't access keyring: No such file or directory   -   what's that about?
[01:14] <Kyral> Harmless
[01:14] <Azunai> jryal u mean the fglrx-control cus there is no -config?
[01:14] <Kyral> Azunai: yah that
[01:14] <Azunai> ok :)
[01:14] <Kyral> I think...
[01:14] <Kyral> I use NVidia myself.. lol
[01:15] <Azunai> man ive learned so much today :D
[01:15] <Azunai> this place is awesome
[01:15] <Azunai> right there installed
[01:15] <mint__> az
[01:15] <Azunai> ?
[01:15] <Azunai> yeh mint
[01:15] <mint__> im in the same boat as you
[01:15] <mint__> trying to install the firefox upgarde
[01:15] <mint__> no idea what im doing
[01:15] <Kyral> oy
[01:16] <mint__> lol
[01:16] <mint__> i know
[01:16] <Azunai> yeah scary aint it u go from knowing everything in windows to knowing nothing in linux
[01:16] <Azunai> lol
[01:16] <Kyral> FF 1.5 has a HIGH chance of breaking Breezy
[01:16] <Azunai> all i did was click on the logo thing at the top of my screen and it updated everything for me
[01:16] <JarG0n> anyone know of any mirrors or any other way of obtaining libsdl1.2debian-alsa from http://packages.debian.org/stable/libs/libsdl1.2debian-alsa  ?? :(
[01:17] <Azunai> Kyral: ive installed what u said now what do i do?
[01:17] <metal> just a quick question: where's the irssi folder?
[01:17] <Kyral> Azunai: reboot X?
[01:17] <mint__> Can someone help me install the new Firefox? I keep getting "Exclusiv Lock" error
[01:17] <Kyral> metal: in the Homedir?
[01:17] <Azunai> how? just reboot my computer?
[01:17] <Kyral> Azunai: no, CTRL+ALT+Backspace
[01:17] <Azunai> ohhhh :D
[01:17] <Kyral> if it works, X will come back
[01:17] <Azunai> man i love you lot :-)
[01:17] <Azunai> and if it doesnt?
[01:17] <Kyral> if not, you will be dropped to a console ;P
[01:17] <metal> Kyral, where exactly?
[01:17] <Azunai> omg
[01:18] <Azunai> then what am i suppost to do
[01:18] <Azunai> lol
[01:18] <rahul> kyral: thanks driver is installed now
[01:18] <FunkyELF> does the installer have an option to install into LVM volumes or do I have to set that up manually off of a live CD before running the installation?
[01:18] <Azunai> reinstall unbuntu if it dont work?
[01:18] <navarone> metal, irssi is a terminal chat client...the folder is probably a hidden one in your home folder..go to home and in the file browser "view/hidden files"
[01:18] <Kyral> Azunai: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[01:18] <Kyral> metal: ~/.irssi
[01:18] <Azunai> let me write that down
[01:18] <Azunai> lol
[01:18] <uh-oh> any reason to use initrd on a laptop since hardware wont change much?
[01:18] <rahul> kyral: but still i am not getting the full refresh rate option :(
[01:19] <Kyral> rahul: oh
[01:19] <Kyral> dunno lol
[01:19] <metal> Kyral, thanks :)
[01:19] <Azunai> right il be back soon i hope :)
[01:19] <metal> but whats ~/.irssi?
[01:19] <rahul> anyone have the link to the site which tell modelline for the moniter with vsync and hsync
[01:19] <navarone> rahul didi you add correct horiz/vert rates in the xorg.conf?
[01:20] <metal> cd ~/.irssi
[01:20] <metal> ?
[01:20] <stardust> hi
[01:20] <navarone> metal folders marked /. are hidden
[01:20] <JarG0n> what is meant by multiverse and universe in Ubuntu?
[01:20] <metal> ok
[01:20] <rahul> navarone: yeah i did that ..... anyways y u have written didi ???
[01:20] <Kyral> JarG0n: seperate repos
[01:20] <happyponcho42> hi
[01:20] <Kyral> JarG0n: still official
[01:20] <navarone> metal in file browser go to home and then change settings to show hidden files...or maybe press ctrl+h
[01:20] <metal> can i go into them with cd?
[01:21] <Kyral> metal: yes
[01:21] <metal> ive found it in filebrowser
[01:21] <happyponcho42> How come the Ubuntu English forums go offline so often?
[01:21] <happyponcho42> it's been an often occurence lately
[01:21] <Azunai> OMG it worked lol
[01:21] <navarone> didi write didi?
[01:21] <JarG0n> Kyral: I need to install this ( To work around this, install the libsdl1.2debian-alsa package from universe. )  How can I do this?
[01:21] <Azunai> Kyral thank you :)
[01:21] <Azunai> i think it worked
[01:21] <Azunai> X reloaded
[01:21] <Azunai> which is alot further than i got before lol
[01:21] <navarone> JarG0n, any chance or finding file in a package in repos?
[01:22] <JarG0n> where is that?
[01:22] <JarG0n> packages.debian.org is down
[01:22] <Kyral> ubotu: tell JarG0n about repos
[01:22] <varsendagger> hello
[01:22] <JarG0n> thx
[01:22] <rahul> navarone: any idea about the refresh rate options
[01:22] <varsendagger> can you see me?
[01:22] <happyponcho42> Are the English forums down for anyone else?
[01:22] <happyponcho42> yes, I can see you varsendagger
[01:22] <varsendagger> ok
[01:22] <navarone> JarG0n, go to synaptic and search for file...utilizing packages outside from official repos can degrade system
[01:23] <BrickMaker> !blackdown
[01:23] <ubotu> BrickMaker: I don't know
[01:23] <varsendagger> i can't login to my default account something wrong with icesessions
[01:23] <navarone> rahul...paste xorg.conf in pastebin
[01:23] <Azunai> Kryal: thank you u really are a god
[01:23] <varsendagger> all i did was install the cadega sessions
[01:23] <navarone> !java
[01:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[01:23] <Kyral> Azunai: I'm just somoene who loves to help people
[01:23] <varsendagger> cedaga demo tather
[01:23] <varsendagger> rather
[01:23] <Kyral> and a Hacker ;P
[01:23] <metal> how do i change the bg color to black?
[01:23] <n00b> hey fella's
[01:23] <Azunai> Kryal: in that case u can expect me around alot lol
[01:23] <metal> in irssi
[01:23] <BrickMaker> how can i protect my system
[01:24] <BrickMaker> ubuntu support firewall?
[01:24] <rahul> navarone: pastebin ???
[01:24] <Azunai> i managed to install cedega on my own
[01:24] <Kyral> metal: I just let Irssi take on the background of my term
[01:24] <navarone> !pastebin
[01:24] <ubotu> I heard pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:24] <Azunai> about to install my first game :)
[01:24] <n00b> Ubuntu has this dictionary app yeah... i would like to get a thesaurus app how do i do that?
[01:24] <Kyral> BrickMaker: Iptables is in all Linuxs
[01:24] <varsendagger> any one?
[01:24] <Dr_Willis> BrickMaker,  linux has firewalling built in. check out the Firestarter front end. if you watn more controll.
[01:24] <navarone> ubuntus dictionaries rock...<s>
[01:24] <Kyral> BrickMaker: but a good frontend is Firestarter
[01:24] <metal> Kyral, how do i change term bg then?
[01:24] <Kyral> IPTables owns :P
[01:24] <frazmanw> How can I add Network into nautalus window like have have in other distros?
[01:24] <Kyral> metal: I assume GNOME-Terminal?
[01:24] <BrickMaker> !Firestarter
[01:24] <ubotu> Ubuntu has, like every other linux distribution, firewalling built into the kernel. A simple frontend to this firewall is firestarter, which can be installed via synaptic.
[01:24] <n00b> navarone, do yuou know where i can find a thesaurus version?
[01:24] <ultramancool> !pastebin
[01:24] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[01:24] <metal> Kyral, yes
[01:25] <Kyral> metal: look in the menubar and for preferences it should be under "current profile" or something
[01:25] <funkyMiNT> ok so i hit ctrl-alt-backspace
[01:25] <Azunai> Kryal: how do i install HL2 on cedega?
[01:25] <^Ocean^> is there a log that would tell me why "Configure network devices.." Fail on boot ?
[01:25] <funkyMiNT> i couldnt even get back to the desktop
[01:26] <navarone> n00b use synaptic and search for thesaurus
[01:26] <^Ocean^> right now i gota boot up and manual do ifconfig eth0 up
[01:26] <Kyral> Azunai: Use Point2Play?
[01:26] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: Try the GNOME Network Control Panel
[01:26] <rahul> navarone: here it is http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7501
[01:26] <^Ocean^> Kyral: were would that be ?
[01:27] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: You use GNOME?
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> Cedega forums have a section on HL2.
[01:27] <^Ocean^> Kyral, correct
[01:27] <Azunai> kryal: i just ran the tests on cedega and opengl direct rendering failed and 3d acceleration failed i have an ATI X850XT Platinum Edition? any ideas?
[01:27] <metal> Kyral, thx
[01:27] <BrickMaker> !ftp
[01:27] <ubotu> Good FTP clients: gftp, konqueror, kbear, nautilus. FTP server: proftpd
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  you set up the non-free ati drivers yet?
[01:27] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: Find the Admin Menu (not that hard) and go to Network :P
[01:27] <Dr_Willis> !ati
[01:27] <ubotu> methinks ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[01:27] <mattl> hey.. i'm an OS X user, trying to make the move over to Ubuntu. I'd like to help out in anyway I can, getting Dapper to run on my iMac G5... I have it booted, at least :)
[01:28] <BrickMaker> !gftp
[01:28] <navarone> rahul what model syncmaster?
[01:28] <ubotu> BrickMaker: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[01:28] <Azunai> Dr Willis: what you mean?
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> mattl,  you proberly dont want to mess with dapper - its a work in progress
[01:28] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell BrickMaker about msg the bot
[01:28] <Kyral> mattl: you understand Dapper is Devel and in development?
[01:28] <^Ocean^> Kyral, everything looks fine there tho...
[01:28] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  you installed the actual ati drivers (flgrx) for full 3d support yet?
[01:28] <rahul> navarone: syncmaster 753s
[01:28] <Kyral> ^Ocean^: Is eth0 set as the default Gateway Device?
[01:28] <mattl> Dr_Willis/Kyral: Yeah, I can't get er.. Breezy is it, to even boot for me?
[01:28] <rahul> navarone:17" moniter
[01:29] <Azunai> Dr_Willis: i just did apt-get install flgrz-driver and apt-get install fglrx-conrol? if thats what u mena?
[01:29] <JarG0n> Is  libsdl1.2debian-oss part of the official repos?
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> mattl,  well i cant help ya there..
[01:29] <^Ocean^> Kyral hmm let me check.  for some reason the program takes like 5min to load up...
[01:29] <BrickMaker> ubotu, tell gftp
[01:29] <Kyral> JarG0n: apt-cache policy <package> and see where it comes from
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  followign that "!ati" wiki page the bot just posted. i mean.
[01:29] <Dr_Willis> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[01:29] <Azunai> Dr_Willis: im a complete noob lol u make no sense
[01:30] <mattl> Dr_Willis: I accept that it might not work for me until Dapper is properly released, but at least for now, I figure I can test Live CDs and report good bugs and things.
[01:30] <JarG0n> libsdl1.2debian-oss:
[01:30] <JarG0n>   Installed: 1.2.7+1.2.8cvs20041007-5.3ubuntu2
[01:30] <JarG0n> ??
[01:30] <Azunai> il check it out
[01:30] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  go read at  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI   - you MUST have the actual ATI drivers up and going right - for full 3d support.
[01:30] <BrickMaker> !kbear
[01:30] <ubotu> BrickMaker: Not a clue
[01:30] <frazmanw> thanks I figured out how to add network icon myself..
[01:30] <neonshadow> sadf
[01:31] <neonshadow> aw yes im back in
[01:31] <Azunai> Dr_Willis: doing it now i think lol
[01:31] <Azunai> its downloading stuff lol thats a good sign :)
[01:32] <Locke_> hi, when i start up Ubuntu when it gets to the 4th step it says "cannot initialize "init.d/rcS" and hangs, any idea's
[01:32] <funkyMiNT> is this good for a n00b to use
[01:32] <funkyMiNT> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[01:32] <funkyMiNT> all im trying to do is learn the basics
[01:32] <tonyyarusso> JarG0n, Yes.
[01:32] <Azunai> is there no apt-get servers with a damn 100mb/s servers lol 200kbs is way to slow for downloading
[01:32] <funkyMiNT> az, what is apt-get
[01:33] <mattl> Are the Ubuntu forums down?
[01:33] <funkyMiNT> think so
[01:33] <rahul> mattl: yeah
[01:33] <Azunai> i aint sure mate lol im been on linux for 30 mins :P its a way of getting programs i think kinda like a basic ftp through console i think then again i could be way off
[01:33] <JarG0n> how do I install libsdl1.2debian-oss ? It's in synaptic.
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> !apt-get
[01:34] <ubotu> I guess apt-get is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AptGetHowto
[01:34] <Kyral> Apt-Get owns :D
[01:34] <n00b> hey guys, whats the advantadge of using deb files?
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, funkyMiNT ^^
[01:34] <Azunai> my friends is better :)
[01:34] <Azunai> he types something like
[01:34] <Azunai> emerge - atidrivers
[01:34] <tonyyarusso> n00b, As opposed to source or rpm?
[01:34] <Azunai> and it installed them
[01:34] <happyponcho42> can anyone see what i type?
[01:34] <metal> yeah
[01:34] <oceandead> yes
[01:34] <BrickMaker> how can view Firestarter?
[01:34] <happyponcho42> excellent
[01:34] <mattl> happyponcho42: No.
[01:35] <happyponcho42> mattl, do you know when the forums will be back up?
[01:35] <n00b> as opposed to both
[01:35] <navarone> rahul I checked your horiz/vert and the setting are right...I can't see what else would be wrong
[01:35] <mattl> happyponcho42: Soon, I hope, but I have nothing to do with them. :)
[01:35] <Kyral> Azunai: that was Portage
[01:35] <happyponcho42> oh, i see your name in red so i figured you're an op?
[01:35] <Kyral> Azunai: Gentoo Linux's claim to fame
[01:35] <rahul> navarone : thanks .... thats wat i am thinking wat is wrong
[01:35] <BrickMaker> ubotu, tell firestarter
[01:35] <tonyyarusso> n00b, Well, re: source, you don't have to compile anything.  re: rpm, they're better at figuring out dependencies.
[01:36] <happyponcho42> and i assumed ops in irc would have some kind of relation to the big guys at ubuntu
[01:36] <zblach> hi, "sound juicer could not extract this CD. Reason: Invalid Parameters"
[01:36] <rahul> navarone : this thing is really buggin me
[01:36] <navarone> BrickMaker, is it installed? If so then Applications/SystemTools/Firestarter
[01:36] <BrickMaker> how can i view file starter?
[01:36] <mattl> happyponcho42: If I'm an op already, I'm worried ;)
[01:36] <BrickMaker> Installed
[01:36] <n00b> and what about deb?
[01:36] <happyponcho42> lol im sorry
[01:36] <rahul> navarone : any other idea
[01:36] <mattl> It's cool
[01:36] <Kyral> n00b: what about deb?
[01:36] <tonyyarusso> !tell happyponcho42 about ops
[01:36] <navarone> rahul...what vid card?
[01:36] <happyponcho42> im new to XChat, the colors confuse me
[01:36] <n00b> whats so good about deb?
[01:36] <rahul> navarone : 7800GTX 256MB
[01:37] <happyponcho42> I've used irc but a different client
[01:37] <tonyyarusso> happyponcho42, Those are the nicks of ops, should you ever need them.  Use responsibly.
[01:37] <BrickMaker> navarone, no theres ain't firestarter
[01:37] <navarone> rahul...and you can't lower/raise refresh rate?
[01:37] <Azunai> right i need to reboot for this damn ati driver
[01:37] <happyponcho42> ah thank you tonyyarusso
[01:37] <Kyral> n00b: You will find in the Unix world there are many ways to do the same thing, and everyone has an opinion :P
[01:37] <Azunai> i just hope this works
[01:37] <defendguin> if i wanted to restart hald how would i do it?
[01:37] <Azunai> see you in a minuite hopefully
[01:37] <n00b> ok
[01:37] <happyponcho42> ohh, i see, the program automatically turns whatever is directed towards me into text with red font?
[01:37] <navarone> BrickMaker, if it is installed try pressing alt-f2 and type firestarter and enter/ok to try
[01:37] <Kyral> happyponcho42: yes :P
[01:38] <happyponcho42> I'm still getting adjusted to this XChat, lol, without the Ubuntu Forums, I feel homeless
[01:38] <engla> what kind of help does ubuntuforums need to get back online?
[01:38] <JarG0n> How can I install libsdl1.2debian-oss ?
[01:38] <engla> and what is our best backup forum?
[01:38] <engla>  /backup community
[01:38] <Kyral> engla: there are bigtime changes going down
[01:38] <engla> Kyral: you imply this was planned?
[01:38] <n00b> guys i cant find the front end for the thesaurus in ubuntu... where is it?
[01:38] <navarone> happyponcho42, if you want to tell a specific person soemthing user their nick so they can see the right line
[01:38] <rahul> navarone : i have 85Hz option upto 1024x768 resolution but when i change the resolution to 1280x960 the only refresh rate option i get is 60 ..... where mine moniter suppports 1280x960@72Hz
[01:39] <BrickMaker> navarone, error, you must have root access to use firestarter
[01:39] <happyponcho42> navarone, gotcha
[01:39] <zblach> how can i fix my sound juicer? :(
[01:39] <varsendagger> hey http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/518329
[01:39] <synackuator> how do I make it so beep opens my mp3s when i double click the files instead of xmms?
[01:39] <cappicard> hmm... any ETA on when or whether the forums will come back up?
[01:40] <varsendagger> please somebody look at my pastebin and tell me how pt fix it please?
[01:40] <jared_> can someone give me a link or guide me through the process to compile the spca5xx
[01:40] <robotic> how do I tell ubuntu installer to do a server type install without me having to interrupt and type it ?
[01:40] <Kyral> engla: word is that they are moving to a new server right now
[01:40] <navarone> rahul I've nevr gone above 1024x768 myself
[01:40] <mint> dpkg: requested operation requires superuser privilege
[01:40] <macgyver2> Heh, maybe they blew their old server by automatix-ing it
[01:40] <cappicard> Kyral: ah ok.
[01:40] <mint> how do i give myself these rights?
[01:40] <jared_> mint, use sudo
[01:40] <mint> i used this
[01:40] <jared_> put sudo in front of the command
[01:40] <rahul> navarone : ohh ok
[01:40] <cappicard> macgyver2: heh
[01:41] <mint> $ sudo apt-get install libstdc++5
[01:41] <mint> and it asked for a pass
[01:41] <mint> i gave it he pass
[01:41] <mint> and then i get
[01:41] <jared_> dunno then
[01:41] <mint> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:41] <cappicard> Kyral: no ETA or if it's being mirrored someplace else in the interim?
[01:41] <navarone> synackuator, right click mp3 file in file browser and choose open with and select beep...set as default
[01:41] <engla> synackuator: in nautilus, look at properties for the file, look at the tab "open with"
[01:41] <cappicard> mint, sudo dpkg --configure -a   ;)
[01:41] <engla> synackuator: for any mp3
[01:41] <rahul> navarone :is there anyway to force refresh rate in linux
[01:41] <mint> thats what i did
[01:41] <mint> oh
[01:41] <Kyral> cappicard: "soon"
[01:41] <jared_> does any one know hot to compile the spca5xx driver?
[01:41] <patrick_> How do I get divx codecs and other mpeg codecs so totem or rythmbox can play those formats?
[01:42] <navarone> rahul...no idea
[01:42] <Kyral> ubotu: tell patrick_ about w32codecs
[01:42] <cappicard> Kyral: heh. ok. gotta love the specificity of stuff like that. oh well
[01:42] <rahul> navarone :ok ..... anyways thanks a lot for the help
[01:42] <navarone> no prob
[01:42] <happyponcho42> ubotu, tell happyponcho42 about gnome-art
[01:43] <Kr0ntab> sup people
[01:43] <n00b> GUYS GUYS how in the WORLD do i install the THESAURUS so it also has a GUI
[01:43] <happyponcho42> ah ok
[01:43] <mint> so is this they way you install everything in linux
[01:43] <patrick_> thanks Kyral
[01:43] <mint> from the terminal
[01:43] <Kyral> mint: not neccessarily
[01:43] <lysis> mint, you can install from synaptic
[01:43] <theSamo> is it okay to install(dpkg) a dapperdrake deb on breezy provided i have all the depsendencies
[01:43] <Kyral> but its how you do in Ubuntu
[01:43] <theSamo> ?
[01:43] <Kyral> theSamo: Be careful...
[01:43] <Kyral> Dapper is in Devel
[01:43] <jared_> does anyon eknow about the space5xx driver?
[01:43] <happyponcho42> Kyral, first look, thought you said Dapper is the Devil
[01:43] <tonyyarusso> theSamo, You can do it, but be prepared for whatever might happen if you do.
[01:44] <happyponcho42> anyone running Dapper right now?
[01:44] <Kyral> happyponcho42: Hell no, I run it now ;P
[01:44] <tonyyarusso> happyponcho42, I saw the same thing!
[01:44] <navarone> n00b sudo apt-get install dict-moby-thesaurus  <-- should then be accessible thru dictionary frontend gui
[01:44] <theSamo> tonyyarusso: whats the worse case scenario
[01:44] <happyponcho42> Kyral, how's it running?  Any difference from Breezy?
[01:44] <oceandead> rahul youll have to edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and add a modeline - im not exactly sure what youd put in there though
[01:44] <theSamo> i mean its some audio package after all
[01:44] <oceandead> howto was in forums but forums are down
[01:44] <patrick_> hey Kyral, I got this error when following the page instructions dpkg: error processing w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb (--install):
[01:44] <patrick_>  cannot access archive: No such file or directory
[01:44] <patrick_> Errors were encountered while processing:
[01:44] <patrick_>  w32codecs_20050412-0.0_i386.deb
[01:44] <keverets> Question:  How does one blank a CD-RW (say, an old Ubuntu install disk) in Breezy?
[01:45] <oceandead> ill check google cache
[01:45] <Kyral> happyponcho42: new packages, new X
[01:45] <n00b> navarone, i did install that but there is no sign of it appearing in the dictionary GUI
[01:45] <quacker> theSamo, there is no reason it shouldn't work, if like you said, you have all the dependencies.  I'd install libs using a pkg mgr though to avoid the chance of conflicts or unwanted upgrades.
[01:45] <happyponcho42> patrick_, install using synaptic
[01:45] <oceandead> see if i can find it for ya
[01:45] <happyponcho42> patrick_, enable universal and non-free repositories
[01:45] <keverets> Inserting it causes it to be mounted immediately, and then gnomebaker and k3b can't erase it.
[01:45] <patrick_> what is synaptic?
[01:45] <tonyyarusso> theSamo, Well, the worst case scenario is always that everything borks, your processor fries, melting through your hard disk and motherboard, and you end up with a really expensive paperweight.  What's the likely wcs?  I don't know; haven't tried Dapper.
[01:45] <ki4ikl> !spca5xx
[01:45] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, ki4ikl
[01:45] <patrick_> and how do I enable that?
[01:45] <ki4ikl> whoops
[01:45] <ki4ikl> didn't mean to type that in here
[01:45] <Kyral> patrick_: Its in the GNOME Menus
[01:45] <theSamo> okay, thanks guys
[01:45] <rahul> oceandead: thats right .... there was a site where if u enter hsync and vsync it will output the model line but i forgot name of the site .....if someone knows it please tell me
[01:45] <happyponcho42> patrick_, System -> Administration -> Synaptic
[01:45] <navarone> n00b didi you try finding it in the drop down menu for the databases?
[01:45] <quacker> theSamo, but if you're going to do all that, why not build it from source?  (Is it in Java, C or C++?)
[01:46] <happyponcho42> patrick_, ah the forums have nicer how-to guides step to step but they're down
[01:46] <mint> things are not showing miniized in the taskbar??? how do i get this back?
[01:46] <happyponcho42> patrick_, let me see if the wiki has it
[01:46] <theSamo> quacker: c++ i think
[01:46] <tehsmo> so, what's the right thing to apt-get install for xorg on a desktop?
[01:46] <theSamo> quacker: i might just do that
[01:46] <Kyral> tehsmo: you don't have it now?
[01:46] <n00b> navarone, which one is it?
[01:46] <tonyyarusso> tehsmo, xserver-xorg, I believe.
[01:46] <tehsmo> nope, basic net-install for teh win
[01:46] <Azunai> Dr_willis: i did what that site u gave me said and it wouldnt load X i had to do dpkg-reconfigure command
[01:46] <theSamo> Kyral: no, there is no package for it on breezy
[01:46] <quacker> theSamo, so get a makefile for your jkernel achitecture from CVS, install kernel headers using apt and away you go
[01:46] <theSamo> i had it on a prev. OS
[01:47] <navarone> n00b look for moby something
[01:47] <Kyral> tehsmo: xserver-xorg should give you the basics
[01:47] <tehsmo> cool
[01:47] <Kyral> SHOULD
[01:47] <happyponcho42> patrick_, http://ubuntuguide.org/ is a nice guide for you
[01:47] <Kyral> No UbuntuGUIDE!
[01:47] <quacker> tehsmo, Breezy or Dapper?
[01:47] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  i followed that wiki. and it took me all of 2 min to get the ati drivers working right. If you cant get 3d support working with them. then you can write off playing 3d games.
[01:48] <tehsmo> 5.10?
[01:48] <happyponcho42> patrick_: http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories is to add the extra repositories
[01:48] <johndarkhorse> happyponcho42: please don't recommend ubuntuguide
[01:48] <johndarkhorse> !ubuntuguide
[01:48] <ubotu> from memory, ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:48] <n00b> navarone, okay i found... now how do i make it so that it searches through both the thesaurus and the dictionary?
[01:48] <rixth> How can I find out how many file descriptors are in use?
[01:48] <Azunai> SOD that
[01:48] <Azunai> lol
[01:48] <Azunai> im gunna try again
[01:48] <Azunai> :D
[01:48] <Azunai> lol
[01:48] <happyponcho42> johndarkhorse, what's wrong with ubuntuguide?
[01:48] <JarG0n> Can anybody assist me in doing what's described here?  This bug is preventing me from launching quake 4 on Ubuntu.  http://zerowing.idsoftware.com/linux/quake4/#head-a0995b8d4f543e7cd8ceec66965708479f9ad7dc
[01:48] <quacker> Dr_Willis, not necessarily... sometimes Wine... jejeje...
[01:48] <tonyyarusso> happyponcho42, See the factoid ^^.
[01:48] <mint> So I have synaptics open, and the firefox folder here
[01:49] <happyponcho42> tonyyarusso, factoid?
[01:49] <happyponcho42> !ubuntuguide
[01:49] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is probably out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:49] <mint> how do i get it to install
[01:49] <n00b> navarone, i figured that out... thanks for the help :)
[01:49] <happyponcho42> ah i see
[01:49] <tehsmo> hmm, xserver-xorg got the basics ..it didn't get 'startx', though, somehow
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> quacker,  with no 3d support. :O guess ya can  'wine sol.exe'
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  yoyu been fighting all day now to get 1 game going. :P
[01:49] <navarone> n00b is it in the dictionary?
[01:49] <ki4ikl> does anyone know much about the spca5xx
[01:49] <oceandead> rahul - http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:5BZGkcPqasAJ:ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-83973.html+ubuntu+add+refresh+rate+modeline+xorg.conf&hl=en
[01:49] <patrick_> thanks I'll read it, happyponcho
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  you have been trying to get the game installed longer then I actually Played that game
[01:49] <Dr_Willis> hee hee.
[01:50] <Azunai> Dr_willis: i think i messed up big style
[01:50] <n00b> navarone, yes it is
[01:50] <BrickMaker> why not Conexant modem drivers are built-in yet?
[01:50] <Azunai> before i did any of this i installed a driver from the ati site
[01:50] <Azunai> how do i uninstall it?
[01:50] <isador> hey all :P
[01:50] <keverets> no ideas on the cd-rw blanking front?
[01:50] <tonyyarusso> BrickMaker, Legality.
[01:50] <lysis> Azunai, you can't.  since you're running linux it's there forever!
[01:50] <JarG0n> Dr_Willis> That doesn't sound good!
[01:51] <zblach> why am i having so much trouble ripping a cd?
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  heh ..
[01:51] <Azunai> Lysis so i should do what? reinstall linux?
[01:51] <isador> im new to the whole linux thing and ive been trying to switch to root in ubuntu
[01:51] <quacker> Dr_Willis, have you read the latest press releases from Wine about benchmarks beating native win32 apps by up to 43% with the older 2D rendering methods (yeah, 'press releases', I know, I know...)
[01:51] <BrickMaker> tonyyarusso, yeah i buy the driver licence from the modem site but ubuntu must introduced
[01:51] <lysis> Azunai, it was a joke . . .     how did you install ati's driver?
[01:51] <Azunai> lol
[01:51] <tonyyarusso> !tell isador about root
[01:51] <Azunai> i been using linux like 40 mins :D
[01:51] <Kyral> BrickMaker: Doesn't matter if YOU bought it
[01:51] <Azunai> erm
[01:51] <isador> in the install , they didnt ask me for a root username and pass
[01:51] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  you do NOT need to get stuff from the ati site - follow that wiki is what you need to do.
[01:51] <Azunai> i went to ati's site
[01:52] <Azunai> and downloaded the 32mb file
[01:52] <lysis> !tell isador about root
[01:52] <Azunai> then went into console
[01:52] <Kyral> BrickMaker: it matters that distributiing it wihtout paying is illegal
[01:52] <quacker> Azunai, NONONONO
[01:52] <Azunai> and did ./ati driver
[01:52] <BrickMaker> Kyral, matter because linux is known as open source and its cost nothing
[01:52] <Azunai> so is there a way i can remove that
[01:52] <Kyral> BrickMaker: Linux is
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> BrickMaker, As much as we might like them to be included in Ubuntu, it's simply not possible, unless you can convince Conexant to change their minds.
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> quacker,  :P dosbox - has all the games we need!
[01:52] <Kyral> BrickMaker: the driver may not be ;P
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  dident follow the wiki then eh?
[01:52] <BrickMaker> so drivers and other stuff must be in free as well
[01:52] <Azunai> yeah
[01:52] <Kyral> BrickMaker: Bingo
[01:52] <quacker> Dr_Willis, Amen, brother Dr_Willis
[01:52] <happyponcho42> Has anyone attempted to run AOL through wine?
[01:52] <patrick_> hey it says those repositores don't exist
[01:52] <Azunai> i did dr willis but for some reason x wouldnt load?
[01:52] <JarG0n> Dr_Willis: Can you help? :(
[01:52] <BrickMaker> lol
[01:52] <tonyyarusso> BrickMaker, If you'd like to pay the $20 for every person who installs Ubuntu though, be my guest.
[01:53] <happyponcho42> My family members refuse to tryout Linux without AOL.
[01:53] <BrickMaker> lol
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  proberly not.  since i dont know exactly what yoru problem is.
[01:53] <quacker> Dr_Willis, actually, I play NWN on Linux, but that has native Linux binaries
[01:53] <Parsnip> lo aach
[01:53] <BrickMaker> i pay 14$ i think for getting conexant modem driver licence
[01:53] <Kyral> happyponcho42: shoot them?
[01:53] <lysis> happyponcho42, tell them aol is the devil.   and it's too expensive . . .
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  is there a quake4 demo you are using? or the official one?
[01:53] <Parsnip> if im running the amd64 ubuntu woody distro
[01:53] <navarone> happyponcho42, I highly doubt it will work...probablty not even thru wine
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> quacker,  i need to try that out some time.. i got it some where in this pile of disks
[01:53] <Kyral> Parsnip: amd?
[01:53] <Parsnip> do i need to download the windows64 bit drivers
[01:53] <phaed> What is the estimate on how many people use Ubuntu now?
[01:53] <dwerf> i came up with a nickname for Windows: SMODNIM. get it?
[01:53] <happyponcho42> ah ok
[01:53] <tehsmo> if they insist that much on aol, I think they're a lost cause regarding linux
[01:53] <mint> Kyral: how do i load the new firefix into synaptics?
[01:53] <JarG0n> DR_Willis: On that url I posted above, it gives the bug listed.  THe exact error I get is "./quake4.x86: error while loading shared libraries: libSDL-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[01:53] <JarG0n> "
[01:53] <patrick_> happyponcho42, it says those repositories no longer exist.
[01:53] <BrickMaker> what if ubuntu team introduced conexant modem drivers for free as built-in
[01:54] <lysis> phaed, 42.
[01:54] <Kyral> mint: use Dapper
[01:54] <Azunai> can i somhow uninstall this ati driver i installed so i can do the other installl dr willis or do i just do that other install anyways
[01:54] <Parsnip> as my acer supports both 64bit and 32bit
[01:54] <mint> whats Dapper
[01:54] <Kyral> mint: I will not explain how to in Breezy because of Breakage
[01:54] <Kyral> !dapper
[01:54] <ubotu> methinks dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[01:54] <lysis> mint, dapper is the new release, coming out in april
[01:54] <Parsnip> can anyone please advise?
[01:54] <lysis> mint, i wouldn't recommend dapper since it's in development.
[01:54] <Azunai> i have the latest release
[01:54] <Dr_Willis> !info libSDL
[01:54] <mint> Kyral: i dont follow
[01:54] <lysis> Parsnip, what's up?
[01:54] <Azunai> i think
[01:54] <happyponcho42> patrick_, I'm sorry, disregard ubuntuguide
[01:55] <mint> im just starting on linux
[01:55] <mint> first day
[01:55] <Azunai> i know the feeling mint
[01:55] <happyponcho42> patrick_, if only the forums were back :(
[01:55] <mint> and i just want to install the new firefox
[01:55] <lysis> mint, congrats!
[01:55] <tonyyarusso> mint, Good for you!
[01:55] <Kyral> mint: Firefox reaches deep into Ubuntu, a lot of things depend on it
[01:55] <Parsnip> lysis, If im installing kubuntu on amd64 and have the amd64 breezy installed
[01:55] <Boki> hello
[01:55] <mint> so its not easy to just upgrade it?
[01:55] <Kyral> mint: if something changes wrong, then massive breakage could happen
[01:55] <lysis> Parsnip, i'm not seeing a question in what you're saying.
[01:55] <Parsnip> lysis, do i need the 64bit drivers from my lappys manufacturers site
[01:55] <patrick_> happyponcho42, is it because I'm on the 5.10 and those are refering to 5.04?
[01:55] <mint> its a VMWare machine
[01:55] <mint> i dont care
[01:55] <Kyral> mint: not Firefox
[01:55] <Boki> what is going on with ubuntu forums?
[01:55] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,   fire up synaptic and isntall the libsdl stuff I guess. :P
[01:55] <Parsnip> as both 64bit and 32bit are catered for
[01:56] <quacker> Dr_Willis, it's a'rush' just having your version listed as 'Neverwinter Nights-Linux-x.y.z' on matching services
[01:56] <BrickMaker> ubuntu is most useable os now a days in world
[01:56] <dwerf> WINDOWS = SMODNIM
[01:56] <lysis> Parsnip, does your laptop produce 64bit drivers for linux?   and does ubuntu have support for you right now with amd64 with breezy 64?
[01:56] <Kyral> Boki: they are movng to another server
[01:56] <quacker> TAKE THAT< BILL!!
[01:56] <Boki> Thanks
[01:56] <happyponcho42> patrick_, type !ubuntuguide
[01:56] <lysis> !tell patrick_ about ubuntuguide
[01:56] <Parsnip> lysis, im having to use ndiswrapper for my wifi as its a broadcom (grr)
[01:56] <patrick_> 1ubuntuguide
[01:56] <JarG0n> Dr_Willis: It's already installed, but there's a bug in it.  THese instructions tell me to install something as an alternative " Some Debian and Debian-based distributions ( like Ubuntu ) are crashing during startup. It appears this is caused by the SDL packages selection. You need to install libsdl1.2debian-alsa or libsdl1.2debian-oss instead of libsdl1.2debian-all. "
[01:56] <Azunai> Dr_willis: ive done everything in that top part of that link u sent me
[01:56] <patrick_> hmm
[01:56] <Parsnip> lysis, will either driver do?
[01:56] <patrick_> !ubuntuguide
[01:56] <ubotu> hmm... ubuntuguide is out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[01:56] <puff-NNY> Hi, im somewhat new to IRC and linux raiding. i'm trying to raid two sata drives. The onboard promise and intel raid controllers didnt seem to work in the ubuntu setup since i still saw the drives individually (mobo is asus PC-DL Delux). So now im trying to do a software raid in the ubuntu install. Would anybody mind helping me with this issue and possibly walking me through it?
[01:56] <patrick_> oookay
[01:56] <patrick_> lol
[01:57] <Azunai> Dr_willis: but when i reboot it will not load x u any ideas why?
[01:57] <lysis> Parsnip, i unfortunately don't know. =(        you CAN use 32bit.   32bit has MUCH more support and a million times more applications.   apps designed for 32bit might not work / have a 64bit version.   please keep that in mind.
[01:57] <happyponcho42> patrick_, there are a lot of nice how-to's on the forums, if you can wait til they come back online, you can find your answer there
[01:57] <lysis> 32bit will still run amazingly.
[01:57] <Boki> does anyone know where I could download icon manager for gnome? the link was on forums but it is inaccessible now
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> JarG0n,  try apt-get install libsdl1.2debian-alsa
[01:57] <happyponcho42> patrick_, otherwise, I'm not sure how detailed of a tutorial i can type up in a chat
[01:57] <drummer87> hi, i've just done a fresh install of breezy and have no sound... dunno what to do.
[01:57] <Parsnip> lysis, i understand, thanks for the spot
[01:57] <JarG0n> ok
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  my guess is - either you missed a step.. or that card is not supported.
[01:58] <Azunai> how can it not be supported?
[01:58] <happyponcho42> patrick_, what kind of files are you trying to play?
[01:58] <Azunai> its an X850XT PE
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> Azunai,  that leaves you Missing a step then
[01:58] <mint> (mint@MINTx:~$
[01:58] <mint> ) how do i get into the desktop
[01:58] <lysis> Azunai, as a whole, ATi cards just do NOT perform well in linux.
[01:58] <mint> to show the content
[01:58] <mint> s
[01:58] <patrick_> happyponcho42, MP3s Divx encoded movies
[01:58] <lysis> mint, type 'startx'
[01:58] <JarG0n> Dr_Willis: E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[01:58] <JarG0n> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[01:58] <Azunai> but i cant afford a crapy nvidia card :(
[01:58] <lysis> Azunai, what game you going for?
[01:58] <Kyral> NVidia != crap ;P
[01:59] <Parsnip> mmmm 7800GTX Black pearl 512Mb (water cooled as standard)
[01:59] <mint> xauth:  creating new authority file /home/mint/.serverauth.7614
[01:59] <mint> X: user not authorized to run the X server, aborting.
[01:59] <drummer87> pls help... are there extra modules i need? i can't remember from my previous install.
[01:59] <Parsnip> tasty tasty
[01:59] <mint> how am i not authorized
[01:59] <patrick_> Radeon = Booya
[01:59] <drummer87> it's onboard sound on an nForce3 mobo
[01:59] <Azunai> Lysis: Counter-Strike Source, WOW and Quake 3 ut2k4 aswell but thats native linux
[01:59] <GameOver69> hey i have installed ndiswrapper properly and my wireless works... and i set up the interfaces file as i am supposed to... but my wlan0 wont boot up with the computer i always have to type dhclient wlan0 in the terminal
[01:59] <lysis> Kyral, not in linux.   AND nvidia has blown away ati for 3/4 of 2005.   just now finally ati is COMPARABLE.
[01:59] <Boki> how to get icon manager for Gnome anyone?
[01:59] <Kyral> mint: in a VM things goes sketchy
[01:59] <Kyral> lysis: I said !=
[01:59] <lysis> Azunai, you might consider selling you 850 on ebay and picking up an nvidia friend.
[01:59] <GameOver69> anyone know how to have it start up properly
[01:59] <Kyral> != means NOT Equal
[01:59] <ubotu> Kyral: Did you get hit by a windmill?
[01:59] <happyponcho42> patrick_, try https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:00] <adub> does anyone run vmware??
[02:00] <happyponcho42> patrick_, there's a lot of information there
[02:00] <drummer87> and forums are sown :( so can't get help there
[02:00] <lysis> Kyral, i guess i'm not following.  lol
[02:00] <puff-NNY> Would somebody be so kind as to help me setup software raid in the ubuntu install?
[02:00] <Azunai> Lysis i payed 400 for this card il get like 100 on ebay :S its just not worth it
[02:00] <patrick_> happyponcho42, after i finally get this working I can get my soundblaster 24bit to show up instead of it detecting as audigy LS
[02:00] <lysis> Kyral, i was unaware that != meant not equal . . .
[02:00] <happyponcho42> patrick_, scroll down to the section titled The Codecs and that's where w32codecs come up
[02:00] <MrRio> how do i use kde and gnome together on ubuntu? which package do i need to install?
[02:00] <happyponcho42> patrick_, was that a question?
[02:00] <lysis> Azunai, why'd you pay $400 for it?   you can buy it right now from ati's site for under 2
[02:01] <drummer87> MrRio, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:01] <drummer87> or ubuntu-desktop if u have kubuntu
[02:01] <drummer87> and u can select from gdm
[02:01] <mint> by default should I have permission to run StartX
[02:01] <Azunai> Lysis no mines an ATI X850 XT Platinum Edition (by saphire) its a little better than the one on the ati site :)
[02:01] <mint> or do i need to adjust something
[02:01] <ali_> anyone here use gnu mailman? i'm wondering how to restrict addresses tha can send to the list. anyone got any ideas?
[02:01] <Azunai> lsysis: its also about 3 months old now :)
[02:01] <lysis> Azunai, fair enough . . .  it still unfortunately won't perform well in linux.
[02:02] <patrick_> happyponcho42, kind of but not really the main concern at the moment, I have sound and it works correctly.  I just want to make sure its detected correctly, but as long as it works good, it's ok for now.
[02:02] <ali_> lysis: why not? don't the ati drivers work for it?
[02:02] <Azunai> lysis: that sucks if these flgrx drivers wont work should i try the latest ones from the ati site?
[02:02] <lysis> ali_, the drivers work but ati isn't putting time or effort into making it as rock solid as it is in windows.  nvidia can make their cards outperform windows . . .
[02:02] <navarone> patrick try "lspci -l | grep audio"  in termianl should come back with your audio device
[02:03] <happyponcho42> patrick_, ah sorry, i wasn't sure if it was a 'i can' or 'can i'.  i honestly have no idea regarding sound, perhaps someone else can chime in to assist you
[02:03] <lysis> ali_, it's a lose lose situation either way, definitely install fglrx like the wiki says.
[02:03] <Azunai> lysis: and if x doesnt load?
[02:03] <ali_> lysis: oh i don't have an ati card :)
[02:03] <lysis> ali_, if you want to game, i have no good news for you.  i tried cedega, crossover office, wine, everything . . .
[02:03] <lysis> Azunai, i'm sorry?
[02:04] <ali_> lysis: thats why I've got an xbox :)
[02:04] <Aaron_Mason> hey all
[02:04] <patrick_> happyponcho42, Well I'm pretty sure it's suppose to show up as the audigy LS, considering it's the exact same chip set.
[02:04] <Azunai> lysis if X doesnt load this time should i just try intaling the ATI drivers?
[02:04] <lysis> ali_, me too =)
[02:04] <isador> DAMN , cant anyone tell me how to switch to root ???
[02:04] <ali_> lysis: :D
[02:04] <Azunai> ali: theres no CSS or WOW on xbox tho :)
[02:04] <Azunai> isador
[02:04] <Aaron_Mason> isador, sudo your commands
[02:04] <lysis> Azunai, i do not recommend using the ati drivers.   if you follow the directions in the wiki TO A TEE then you should have no problems.
[02:04] <ali_> isador: sure i can, but thats no reason to scream
[02:04] <Azunai> Sudo su
[02:04] <navarone> patrick_ try "lspci -l | grep audio" to see if it lists the correct device
[02:04] <isador> ...
[02:04] <isador> im TOTALLY new
[02:04] <lysis> Azunai, we don't like those games.  haha
[02:04] <cr1mson> How do I install Add Application to the GNOME panel?
[02:04] <oceandead> by default there is no root account - use sudo instead
[02:04] <Aaron_Mason> oh, snap
[02:04] <lysis> isador, root is disabled.
[02:04] <ali_> Azunai: haha don't say that!! :)
[02:04] <isador> so i dont even know how to input thoz commands
[02:04] <tonyyarusso> isador, Then you shouldn't be switching to root.
[02:04] <Aaron_Mason> so you can get into root access
[02:05] <mint> Az
[02:05] <Azunai> lysis: i copied and pasted every single command in the thing first i did apt-get install the new kernal thing
[02:05] <puff-NNY> Anybody here that would be kind enough to take some time and help me with a raid setup?
[02:05] <mint> did u have any problems with the StartX
[02:05] <isador> ... im trying to switch to root cuz i cant do anything without it
[02:05] <Azunai> then xorg-driver
[02:05] <tonyyarusso> isador, sudo does everything.
[02:05] <lysis> Azunai, that could've been the problem.  i skipped the kernel portion and it worked PERFECTLY for me.
[02:05] <oceandead> isador - sudo
[02:05] <ali_> isador: do you want to do something in gnome or on the command line
[02:05] <isador> ...
[02:05] <Soson> Hi
[02:05] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know why RhythmBox won't take my mp3 files? it just says "file is not a valid audio stream"
[02:05] <lysis> isador, you should be using sudo.  not root.   root = disabled.
[02:05] <isador> how am i supposed to input that ocmmand ???
[02:05] <ali_> Aaron_mason: you don't have the mp3 codec installed
[02:05] <Azunai> lysis: Oh? i did everything it said
[02:05] <isador> command*
[02:05] <Aaron_Mason> ah
[02:06] <tonyyarusso> isador, Just put sudo in front of any command.
[02:06] <oceandead> Aaron_Mason, you have to have mp3 codec installed
[02:06] <askjivez> Does anyone know how to get Teamspeak to recognize my microphone?
[02:06] <Aaron_Mason> i'm new to ubuntu, where do I go to get it?
[02:06] <lysis> Azunai, i have a 9550 (budget line card . . . hehehe)   and i am running 16x12 on the desktop, gdesklets, all kinds of effects.  really working great
[02:06] <Azunai> lysis: so if it fails to load x should i just reinstall ubuntu and try it without the kernel updae?
[02:06] <ali_> Aaron_Mason: hold on a sec i'll tell ya
[02:06] <navarone> !mp3
[02:06] <ubotu> I heard mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:06] <nandro> can anyone tell me where I can get Automatix? seems the forums have been down for a whle
[02:06] <lysis> Azunai, i might suggest that.  but i'm also one who has an unlimited amount of time for this. hehe
[02:06] <Kyral> Automatix == Bad
[02:06] <owner> nandro, they should be up
[02:06] <ali_> Aaron_Mason: go to the ubotu link
[02:06] <owner> kyral lol
[02:06] <Soson> anyone knows how can I turn on ubuntu without having the pc connecting to the network? I mean, when booting ubuntu it says "Waiting for networking interface to come up"...How can I "delete" this step
[02:06] <nandro> just tried, no luck
[02:07] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[02:07] <ubotu> it has been said that automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[02:07] <lysis> how do i check to see if fglrx is working properly again?   it checked for rendering or something . . . it had a | grep    in it . . .
[02:07] <askjivez> !teamspeak
[02:07] <ubotu> askjivez: Bugger all, i dunno
[02:07] <Azunai> lysis im a webdesigner lol all i do is work from home i have all the time in the world just STAY ONLINE lol
[02:07] <isador> sudo: ./NVIDIA.run: command not found
[02:07] <isador> thats what it says
[02:07] <isador> ...
[02:07] <Soson> anyone knows how can I turn on ubuntu without having the pc connecting to the network? I mean, when booting ubuntu it says "Waiting for networking interface to come up"...How can I "delete" this step
[02:07] <askjivez> Can anyone help me get my mic to work in Teamspeak?
[02:07] <mint> how do i change to the root int he terminal window
[02:07] <happyponcho42> Anyone experience the problem where you when you type n, it sometimes doesn't show up?  I'm always in the middle of typing something and at the end, i realize all the n's are missing
[02:07] <Azunai> do you actualy have to reboot ur os or can u just reboot X lysis?
[02:07] <askjivez> mint, type su
[02:07] <lysis> isador, type sudo chmod +x NVIDIA.run        then ./NVIDIA.run         CAPS MATTER
[02:07] <nandro>  !automatix
[02:07] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[02:07] <jerham2651> ./NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-1.0-8178-pkg2.run
[02:07] <navarone> Azunai...you made me jealous...<s>
[02:07] <lysis> Azunai, ubuntu by default boots into x
[02:07] <Steil> mint: sudo -s
[02:07] <oceandead> askjivez - have you checked the teamspeak forum ?
[02:08] <lysis> i have to login, but i'm logging into an x server screen.
[02:08] <mint> is ther a default pass
[02:08] <mint> or something
[02:08] <Azunai> navarone: sorry :)
[02:08] <Steil> mint: to use su you need to set a root password which isn't recommended, just type sudo -s
[02:08] <nandro> ok, then whats the best way to install FF 1.5?
[02:08] <Steil> and then it's your regular password
[02:08] <mint> k
[02:08] <patrick_> I wish the redownload of w32codecs file wouldn't take this long.  an annoying 15.3 KB/Sec speed.  Probably because of that retard friend of mine who has overbloated Windows XP and his file share P2P crap always running.
[02:08] <navarone> Azunai...no that's okay...I'll live vicariously thru you...<sigh>
[02:08] <Azunai> lysis: yeah but cant i just ctrl +alt + bkspc instead of reboot :)
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> !firefox1.5
[02:08] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[02:08] <mint> it switched to root with sudo -s
[02:08] <tonyyarusso> nandro, ^^
[02:08] <lysis> Azunai, no.
[02:08] <mint> k
[02:08] <isador> it says im running a Xserver or sumthing like that
[02:08] <lysis> Azunai, you must reboot so it will load the modules.
[02:08] <nandro> ty
[02:08] <isador> and the driver wont install
[02:09] <Azunai> navarone: if u need a site building u know were to come heh
[02:09] <isador> how do i switch to non-graphical mode?
[02:09] <lysis> isador, you must ctrl + alt + backspace to stop running the xserver
[02:09] <Steil> happyponcho42: It's probably a problem with your keyboard....
[02:09] <mint> So there is no "Easy Way" speaking with synaptics to install firefox, but other protrams there are??
[02:09] <isador> k
[02:09] <lysis> then do it from command line
[02:09] <lysis> reboot
[02:09] <lysis> then all will be good
[02:09] <Azunai> lysis: il be back asap i need to reboot :)
[02:09] <lysis> Azunai, i may be away but i'll look for flashing
[02:09] <Azunai> stay online please :)
[02:09] <jerham2651> ff installed fine for me
[02:09] <Azunai> brb
[02:10] <happyponcho42> Steil, it doesn't occur in Windows, but in Linux, it's an often occurence
[02:10] <tonyyarusso> mint, ff1.07 is fine with synaptic, 1.5 isn't.
[02:10] <mint> hmm
[02:10] <Steil> happyponcho42: No idea then, sorry
[02:10] <navarone> isador...if you want no gui at all there is a command to kill the gdm and then you can ctrl-alt-f2 to a text terminla and work thru there
[02:10] <puff-NNY> Anybody here that would be kind enough to take some time and help me with a raid setup?
[02:10] <patrick_> Would be nice if the Ubuntu repository had the FireFox 1.5 in there.  I had to update from 1.07 to 1.5 the hard way.
[02:10] <happyponcho42> Steil, no problem, it's not that big of an issue, but rather one that annoys me every so often.
[02:10] <mint> can i run all of this for FF1.5 as...  root@MINTx:~#
[02:10] <Aaron_Mason> ok, I can't get the package - I run apt-get but I get this error: W: Couldn't stat source package list http://archive.ubuntu.com breezy/universe Packages (/var/lib/apt/lists/archive.ubuntu.com_ubuntu_dists_breezy_universe_binary-i386_Packages) - stat (2 No such file or directory)
[02:11] <tonyyarusso> patrick_, Dapper will have it.
[02:11] <chemical_ds> can anbody tell me how to configure my firewall so that i can ping hosts on my lan by their name?
[02:11] <chemical_ds> i've tried editing /etc/hosts on the firewall, but that didn't seem to work. btw i'm using dnsmasq.
[02:11] <oceandead> askjivez, after youve checked the ts forums (theres lots of posts there about getting it to work) - you may also try googling for teamspeak happy esd alsa  and use the google cache to the howto from the ubuntuforums
[02:11] <ali_> chemical_ds: you only need to put them in your hosts file
[02:11] <ali_> chemical_ds: at /etc/hosts
[02:12] <chemical_ds> ali_: hmm ok i'll give it another try
[02:12] <Aaron_Mason> i got the same error when I load the Package Manager these days
[02:12] <patrick_> while i'm waiting for a download, anyone know how I can limit the refreshrate? My monitor can go up higher then was recommended, I want to cap it if it's possible.
[02:12] <j2daosh> hows it going everyone... got a question about sql... postgre sql to be specific... if i input a mp3 table in my database... can i play the mp3's from the database or will it just give me information about the mp3 and give me beter search options?
[02:12] <glacious> so does HL2 / Day of Defeat Source run well in Ubuntu /w an ATI card?
[02:13] <ali_> chemical_ds: it's simple you just put in the address and the name like this "192.168.0.1 ali" then if i type, "ping ali" it'll ping the 192.... address
[02:13] <glacious> i think it may be my last step to a full move to linux... again.
[02:13] <Aaron_Mason> ah, gotta download the lists.  belh
[02:13] <Aaron_Mason> *blegh
[02:13] <BrickMaker> how can i give better look to my desktop
[02:13] <Aaron_Mason> damn typos!
[02:13] <ali_> BrickMaker: are you running gnome? what do you mean by better, less brown?
[02:13] <patrick_> lmao
[02:14] <pippo> salut
[02:14] <BrickMaker> ali_, i'm running gnome just wan't to make it colorful and beautiful you know what i mean
[02:14] <j2daosh> BrickMaker, sudo apt-get install gnomeart
[02:14] <ali_> hey
[02:14] <Aaron_Mason> ok, getting there
[02:14] <pippo> il ya qq1 qui parle franais?
[02:14] <oceandead> BrickMaker - you want to change the wallpaper, icons, look of the windows - what ?
[02:14] <drummer87> BrickMaker, gnome-look.org for lots of themes
[02:14] <ali_> pippo: ubuntu-fr
[02:14] <BrickMaker> Okay let me try themes
[02:14] <pippo> thhs
[02:14] <chemical_ds> ali_: it seems to be working now :) cheers.
[02:14] <Aaron_Mason> ubuntu is teh r0x!
[02:15] <MickMcMack> Stones are the rox!
[02:15] <Aaron_Mason> heck, I'd even drop xp and load this up
[02:15] <ali_> BrickMaker: yeah change the theme over to clearlooks, then I'd suggest installing the tango icons http://tango-project.org/Tango_Desktop_Project :) should look better all ready
[02:15] <oceandead> lol the r0x
[02:15] <oceandead> teh*
[02:15] <ali_> chemical_ds: np :)
[02:16] <Aaron_Mason> w00t, it works now
[02:16] <Aaron_Mason> kudos all
[02:16] <BrickMaker> let me check
[02:16] <adam__> hello
[02:16] <insomniac_> can someone help me with the permissions setting on my hard drive?
[02:16] <ali_> insomniac_: yes
[02:17] <insomniac_> i have a second hard drive that I want to change the permissions to allow me to write files, but when i try "chmod" it tells me that the drive is a "read-only" file system
[02:17] <adam__> R the ubuntu forums down?
[02:17] <ali_> insomniac_: ok thats not the permissions, but how its mounted.
[02:17] <insomniac_> okay
[02:17] <BrickMaker> ali_, show me your desktop screen shot
[02:18] <oceandead> http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#fg-windows-partitions
[02:18] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: if it's a ntfs drive you may destroy data by writing to it
[02:18] <ali_> BrickMaker: ok hold on, i'm on my gf's mac atm
[02:18] <mcdenyer> !srs
[02:18] <ubotu> mcdenyer: My cat's name is Mittens!
[02:18] <BrickMaker> OK
[02:18] <eli> hello everyone, is ubuntuforums down?
[02:18] <mcdenyer> !audio
[02:18] <ubotu> mcdenyer: I don't know, could you explain it?
[02:18] <insomniac_> johndarkhorse, it's fat32
[02:18] <ssstormy> 171
[02:18] <BrickMaker> damn, i heav'nt seen yet mac in real life
[02:18] <ssstormy> hey, how do I run a .jar fie?
[02:19] <ali_> BrickMaker: they're not all there cracked up to be :)
[02:19] <mc|amb> im having problems setting the screen resolution on my laptop, could someon help me?
[02:19] <Khisanth> java -jar foo.jar if you are doing it from the command line
[02:19] <oceandead> i have - eh no biggie
[02:19] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: then you should fix your permissions in your /etc/fstab (indiscrimanate use of 'chmod' will surely botch your system)
[02:19] <BrickMaker> lol
[02:19] <mint> anyone know why things dont minimize to taskbar?
[02:19] <ali_> BrickMaker: i'll just go down stairs, i'll be called johnnybezak when i login from down there
[02:19] <mint> or how to fix that
[02:19] <eli> fstab?
[02:19] <insomniac_> johndarkhorse, what changes do i need to make?
[02:19] <eli> where can i find the newest fstab?
[02:20] <BrickMaker> ok
[02:20] <puff-NNY> could somebody please help me with how to setup raid?
[02:20] <johndarkhorse> !pastebin
[02:20] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[02:20] <oceandead> fstab is a file - basically tells ubuntu what to mount at boot - and how it will be mounted
[02:20] <BrickMaker> ali_,  you a muslim and from australia?
[02:20] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: pastebin your /etc/fstab please
[02:20] <n00b> lol brickmaker wtf?
[02:20] <insomniac_> johndarkhorse, not sure what that means, but the line w/ this drive is this
[02:20] <insomniac_> "/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage    vfat    defaults,uid=rradjabi,gid=users 0 0"
[02:21] <BrickMaker> n00b, lol
[02:21] <drummer87> ssstormy, "java -jar file.jar" i think
[02:21] <puff-NNY> can you guys even hear me? nobody has responded to anything i say
[02:21] <n00b> did you go down to nulla?
[02:21] <ppjd0tz9> friggin forums
[02:21] <eli> sorry, i meant does anyone know where i can find winmac_fstab for breezy?
[02:21] <mcdenyer> hey can someone help me set up suround sound?
[02:21] <glacious> so cedega, worth paying for if i can get the time demo to work properly?
[02:21] <n00b> NO DONT PAY FOR IT
[02:21] <mc|amb> i cant set screen resolution with dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg? do anyone knows why?
[02:21] <oceandead> vfat umask=000 0 0     lets all users read/write?
[02:21] <n00b> glacious you can download it from amule
[02:22] <glacious> n00b: cedega?
[02:22] <imexius> is ubuntuforums up yet?
[02:22] <n00b> glacious, yes
[02:22] <oceandead> nope imexius :(
[02:22] <cactii> I can't write to my Creative Labs Muvo MP3 player...
[02:22] <imexius> ah
[02:22] <n00b> glacious, thats how i downloaded mine
[02:22] <glacious> n00b: i have the time demo running.  but it makes you reinstall all the games.  i have a copy of my Valve dir /w HL2 and Dod:S.
[02:22] <tonyyarusso> n00b, Are we advocating piracy now, or is this the cvs version?
[02:22] <glacious> n00b: but don't you have to pay for a subscription?
[02:22] <imexius> im making a new version of cedega called Shaddeggha
[02:22] <Bizzeh> does ubuntu, or linux its self support MTP (PlayForSure Media Transfer Protocol)
[02:22] <n00b> glacious, not if you don't want to
[02:23] <glacious> what is a good CD / DVD burning program?
[02:23] <eli> anyone know how long ubuntuforums will be down?
[02:23] <n00b> tonyyarusso, no this isn't pircay
[02:23] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok hey how do  i install the gstreamer plugin for firefox?
[02:23] <imexius> ubuntuforums is permanently down
[02:23] <oceandead> gnomebaker (gnome) or k3b (kde)
[02:23] <eli> what???
[02:23] <nofear> glacious, kb3
[02:23] <glacious> oceandead: thank you
[02:23] <glacious> nofear: kb3 work well in gnome?
[02:23] <eli> no, are you serious that ubuntuforums is permanently down?
[02:23] <kasemodz> does anyone know why ubuntu forums has been going down lately
[02:23] <oceandead> kb3 for kde
[02:24] <kasemodz> it has gone down pretty much everyday
[02:24] <eli> lack of funding i would assume?
[02:24] <oceandead> though - if you take care of dependencies - it will work
[02:24] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, sudo apt-get install gstreamer0.8* mozilla-mplayer
[02:24] <n00b> guys is windows > ubuntu?
[02:24] <nekostar> o.o
[02:24] <glacious> oceandead: i run gnome here, i'll give gnomebaker a try.
[02:24] <Remillard> is there a known problem with getting networking up and running?
[02:24] <glacious> most people run KDE over gnome here?
[02:24] <ppjd0tz9> yeah thats why we're sitting in #ubuntu
[02:24] <nekostar> glacious,
[02:24] <nekostar> dont do that
[02:24] <eli> gnome
[02:24] <glacious> nekostar: ?
[02:24] <oceandead> i use gnome/gnomebaker
[02:24] <n00b> i run gnome
[02:24] <happyponcho42> gnome here
[02:24] <n00b> gnome > kDE
[02:24] <eli> enlightenment actually
[02:24] <nekostar> your just inviting errors on burns
[02:25] <kasemodz> has anyone done that HOWTO: Server Side VNC Client in ubuntu forums
[02:25] <n00b> KDE reminds me of windows... its sooo bulky
[02:25] <nekostar> use something that has error checking
[02:25] <nekostar> i usually install k3b
[02:25] <glacious> nekostar: ok.  well i have a few large files i neede burned onto a DVD.  what should i use?
[02:25] <ppjd0tz9> fluxbox baby
[02:25] <kasemodz> the one where the guy downloads a vncviewer and modidys it
[02:25] <nekostar> and yes i run gnome too
[02:25] <glacious> n00b: that was my impression as well.  pretty tho =)  but apparently gnome has some pimp themes.
[02:25] <mint> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:25] <happyponcho42> Nekos, are you referring to Gnomebaker to burn cd's?
[02:25] <nekostar> yeah
[02:25] <mint> is that from the updrade ?
[02:25] <happyponcho42> I've also had bad luck with cd's burned through there
[02:25] <nekostar> im saying dont use it
[02:25] <glacious> nekostar: so gnomebaker is not a good CD program?
[02:26] <happyponcho42> Nekos, what othe rprogram do you recommend?
[02:26] <nekostar> without error checking no program is good
[02:26] <nekostar> k3b works awesome
[02:26] <happyponcho42> glacious, i've also experienced many dead cd's from gnomebaker
[02:26] <^Ocean^> Okay, With Disk Manager How come udner speed: it says "Not Avalilable" for my hard drives ?
[02:26] <glacious> nekostar: so can k3b work in gnome?
[02:26] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok once i install it how do i get firefox to use it?
[02:26] <nekostar> yup
[02:26] <nekostar> works great :)
[02:26] <glacious> happyponcho42: ok.  i'll avoid it :)
[02:26] <mc|amb> yes
[02:26] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:26] <glacious> nekostar: sounds like a plan, ty.
[02:26] <nekostar> np
[02:26] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, after i did that it still tries to play it with totem
[02:26] <nekostar> ive got a few TB of stuff
[02:26] <happyponcho42> excellent, k3b is in the repos.
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Either it will automatically, or you'll have to make the symlinks as before.
[02:26] <nekostar> burned and well
[02:26] <Remillard> anyhow, I'll just throw this out there.  Installed ubuntu from the install cd... seems to identify the network card, and I can set up my static route information, however it doesn't connect.  DHCP also does not work.  Exact information works on my gentoo partition, so fairly certain it's not hardware... is there some way of diagnosing this?
[02:26] <nekostar> errors piss me off
[02:26] <n00b> glacious: yes gnome is sweet... check out art.gnome.org you can get lots of cool stuff from there
[02:26] <happyponcho42> sudo apt-get install k3b
[02:26] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Ah, that part.
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Remove the totem symlinks too.
[02:27] <nekostar> n00b, there is a package for that actually
[02:27] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[02:27] <nekostar> i recommend:
[02:27] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, In /usr/lib/mozilla-firefox/plugins/, rm the two with 'totem' in their name.
[02:27] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[02:27] <ubotu> well, multimedia is for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[02:27] <glacious> n00b: w00t! thank you sir.
[02:27] <johnnybezak> who was it that wanted a screenshot of my desktop ( i was ali_)
[02:27] <nekostar> sudo apt-get install gnome-art k3b totem-xine xine-ui
[02:27] <nekostar> :)
[02:27] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok one sec
[02:27] <JDigital> KDE is very Windows-like. Gnome reminds me a little of Mac or Amiga but they just keep ripping things from Windows so it loses something
[02:27] <mint> FF wont even open now
[02:27] <JDigital> and it only rips half the things from Windows so it feels lacking
[02:28] <mint> and i followed this tutorial exactyl
[02:28] <JDigital> which tutorial
[02:28] <glacious> and use openoffice for a MS Office compatible office suite?
[02:28] <_jason>  /last mint 10
[02:28] <johnnybezak> gnome doesn't look like windows at all
[02:28] <beelzebub1987> nah
[02:28] <beelzebub1987> but check this out
[02:28] <imexius> if gnome looked like windows i would quit using gnome
[02:28] <beelzebub1987> I made gnome look like Os X
[02:28] <n00b> nekostar, does that install everything?
[02:28] <JDigital> Some Gnome features work the same as in Windows
[02:28] <beelzebub1987> http://beelzebub1987.servehttp.com/Screenshot.png
[02:29] <beelzebub1987> that's my Ubuntu desktop
[02:29] <nekostar> n00b, yeah
[02:29] <glacious> wow, to install k3b, it has like 15 dependencies.  basically like installing KDE =(
[02:29] <n00b> nekostar, kewl
[02:29] <mint> how can i restore my firefox?
[02:29] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: "/dev/hdb1       /mnt/storage    vfat    ro,umask=000   0 0"
[02:29] <nekostar> that installs the packages named and the dependancies
[02:29] <johnnybezak> glacious: yeah sucks hey
[02:29] <mint> now that it wont even open
[02:29] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: i'm sorry, im in an office atm
[02:29] <insomniac_> that's cool
[02:29] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: it should be rw,umask=000
[02:29] <glacious> johnnybezak: oh well.  just a one time deal i guess to get all KDE apps working in gnome.
[02:29] <BrickMaker> now let me know how to use that theme
[02:29] <beelzebub1987> http://beelzebub1987.servehttp.com/Screenshot.png like my ubuntu desktop setup?
[02:29] <_jason> mint: did you follow the wiki?
[02:29] <nekostar> mint, for the record mozilla is faster
[02:29] <JDigital> Clock in the corner, systray by the clock, taskbar at the bottom, windows are similar
[02:29] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok so i just delete the files
[02:29] <mint> i did follow the wiki
[02:29] <mint> and now it wont open
[02:29] <oceandead> what bt client does everyone use?
[02:30] <johndarkhorse> insomniac_: i'm goin freakin crazy tryin to answer the phones (and answer easy questions in here at the same time)
[02:30] <JDigital> uTorrent
[02:30] <JDigital> uTorrent isn't Linux though
[02:30] <nekostar> glacious, yeah its got dependancies
[02:30] <mint> /opt/firefox/firefox-bin: error while loading shared libraries: libstdc++.so.5: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[02:30] <nekostar> but its not the same
[02:30] <_jason> mint: so that means you installed the package libstdc++5 ?
[02:30] <JDigital> so I use the default client
[02:30] <nekostar> try sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[02:30] <johnnybezak> glacious: yep thats the deal
[02:30] <nekostar> see the couple hundred packages heh
[02:30] <mint> _jason: i think
[02:30] <insomniac_> johndarkhorse, i think i figured it out, thanks for the help
[02:30] <mint> totally new here
[02:30] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Yeah.
[02:30] <Bizzeh> does anyone know of a fix to get the ralink rt2500 drivers to work with a smp kernel?
[02:30] <Remillard> hm, no ideas on network... ahh well
[02:30] <glacious> if i remove the Dapper Drake CD rom from the sources.list, will it stop asking me to insert it?
[02:30] <mint> but now i cant even open a browser to try and figure out how to fix
[02:31] <eli> ati?
[02:31] <glacious> and just download everything?
[02:31] <mint> could kinda use some help
[02:31] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: you can compile those drivers for any kernel
[02:31] <nekostar> yes thats right glacious
[02:31] <patrick_> where do i direct Mplayer to a font, it keeps saying no font selected, I don't know where the directy for fonts are
[02:31] <nekostar> sudo nano /etc/apt/sources.list
[02:31] <nekostar> !sources
[02:31] <ubotu> To enable Universe and Multiverse see http://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto - Official sources.lists here: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047 (Breezy) or http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6666 (Dapper) see also !easysource
[02:31] <nekostar> put those in :)
[02:31] <tandy> can someone direct me to instruction for compiling a custom kernel on ubuntu
[02:31] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, which files do i remove exactly the .las or the .so or what?
[02:31] <_jason> mint: you need to install libstdc++5
[02:31] <mint> hmm
[02:32] <glacious> any good DVD authoring programs for gnome?  Like take multiple DivX and make it into a multi-show DVD for DVD players?
[02:32] <mint> no idea how
[02:32] <mint> is it hard
[02:32] <n00b> ZOMG CHECK OUT THE BACKGROUNDS AT ART.GNOME.ORG
[02:32] <mint> is that something thats in synaptics
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, The two with totem in their name, whatever those are.
[02:32] <^Ocean^> is there a program to test how many MB/S my HD is read/writeing at ?
[02:32] <mint> that i can just install
[02:32] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, theres 4
[02:32] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: aparently not, you need /lib/modules/kernelname/build dir to build them, which i dont have. and if a module is compiled for a amd64 kernel, then i get the same kernel, but smp, wouldnt the module still work?
[02:32] <johndarkhorse> glacious: try 'dvdauthor
[02:32] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Okay, then all four.
[02:32] <bimberi> ubotu tell tandy about kernelcompile
[02:32] <_jason> mint: the wiki tells you exactly what to do in the notes, it is even in bold
[02:32] <johnnybezak> mint: yeah exactly :) or from a terminal sudo apt-get install packagenamehere
[02:33] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: grab linux-source and kernel-headers using apt or synaptic
[02:33] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, whats the command to delete?
[02:33] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Bizzeh about wireless
[02:33] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, rm
[02:33] <tandy> thanks bimberi
[02:33] <tandy> dont knwo why icoudlnt find that
[02:33] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, sudo rm
[02:34] <bimberi> tandy: yw :)
[02:34] <glacious> k3b wants to run as root, using 'su'.  how should i get around this?
[02:34] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: those URLs i had sent should walk you through the process
[02:34] <imexius> gnomebaker vs k3b whats the best?
[02:34] <imexius> glacious sudo -s
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, correct.
[02:34] <johndarkhorse> glacious: something is wrong if k3b wants to run as root
[02:34] <dabaR> Hi.
[02:34] <gepenk> help
[02:34] <gepenk> any body wants 2 help me
[02:34] <lamp_> what do you need help with?
[02:34] <tonyyarusso> gepenk, Ask your question.
[02:35] <johnnybezak> gepenk: we'll all help you just say what you need help with
[02:35] <johndarkhorse> imexius: please don't advise without thinking. k3b should NOT want to run as root, and that is a sign of something wrong with the system
[02:35] <gepenk> i want 2 launch gnome
[02:35] <gepenk> but how
[02:35] <gepenk> ?
[02:35] <puff-NNY> startx?
[02:35] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, ok now what?
[02:35] <patrick_> What folder are fonts located in?
[02:35] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Now try it.
[02:35] <meemoo> root logon
[02:35] <gepenk> ?
[02:35] <_jason> ubotu: tell meemoo about root
[02:35] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: i know how to get wireless working in ubuntu, the module refuses to load under the smp kernel
[02:36] <patrick_> What folder are fonts located in??
[02:36] <mcdenyer> !multimedia
[02:36] <ubotu> multimedia is, like, totally, for codecs, http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/ch03.html#sect-music-and-movies ; and for applications, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MultimediaApplications
[02:36] <Bizzeh> and it wont let me build a new one against the new kernel
[02:36] <brenner> gepenk: need more info ... is gdm not starting? are you currently running kde and would like to install gnome? etc.
[02:36] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: if you follow the instructions, they'll tell you how to compile a module for your current kernel
[02:36] <gepenk> look
[02:36] <puff-NNY> can anybody hear me in there?
[02:36] <gepenk> i just installed ubuntu in my pc
[02:36] <dabaR> puff-NNY: no,
[02:36] <_jason> puff-NNY: is anybody out there?
[02:36] <gepenk> and now want to install another program
[02:37] <gepenk> but i cant do nothing
[02:37] <glacious> hrmm, anyone use Cedega with the fglrx driver?  it fails both video tests for me.
[02:37] <patrick_> I already have the font installed but where is it installed to?
[02:37] <dabaR> gepenk: go read http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html as a prerequisite.
[02:37] <GameOver69> owner: man my 3d works horribly......
[02:37] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, man the video and sound quality is great works perfectly thanks alot man
[02:37] <brenner> gepenk: so you /can/ lauch gnome? i'm confused :-/
[02:37] <GameOver69> i tried darwinia: man i thought my computer froze it was running so slow
[02:37] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, np
[02:37] <puff-NNY> could somebody please help me with a raid setup?
[02:37] <dabaR> patrick_: did you read the wiki page ubotu told you about?
[02:37] <gepenk> thanx
[02:38] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: the links have nothing to do with building the driver at all
[02:38] <Bizzeh> read through the main one, and the rt2500 link coming off it
[02:38] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: i'll find the URL for the howto
[02:38] <patrick_> yeah but that says for installing fonts, I don't want new ones I want to set mplayer to use the same font x-chat uses, the monospace 9 one
[02:38] <owner> gameover sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[02:38] <owner> select fglrx
[02:39] <oceandead> ah crap - out of coffee gotta go to the store
[02:39] <imexius> buy me some
[02:39] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: you didn't see the rt2500 howto on that page?
[02:40] <Bizzeh> yes
[02:40] <dabaR> patrick_: do you have ~/.fonts?
[02:40] <Bizzeh> it has nothing to do with building it in that page
[02:40] <funkyMiNT> anyone have a good resource page for learning how the directory structure works with Ubuntu
[02:40] <funkyMiNT> commands etc
[02:40] <bimberi> !cli
[02:40] <ubotu> CLI means Command Line Interface, aka the terminal or console. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BasicCommands or http://www.linuxcommand.org/ or http://www.tuxfiles.org
[02:40] <Bizzeh> it only has to do with making it work when its loaded, which i am perfectly capable of doing, my problem is i cant get it to build for a smp kernel
[02:40] <funkyMiNT> thank you
[02:41] <Toma-> if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :(
[02:41] <bimberi> funkyMiNT: np, although it covers commands, i'm not sure where the directory structure is covered
[02:41] <Toma-> last time i set it up, i had to have a static IP with the wifi card
[02:41] <puff-NNY> could somebody please help me with a raid setup in ubuntu?
[02:41] <Toma-> ubotu, tell puff-NNY about raid
[02:42] <funkyMiNT> im using synaptics to install the libstdc++5
[02:42] <funkyMiNT> HOORAY
[02:42] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: i'm sorry i wish robotgeek were here, because there IS a page on the wiki on how to do this
[02:42] <Azunai> hey again ppls
[02:42] <Azunai> who was i talking to before about ATI drivers?
[02:42] <meemoo> i just installed ubuntu and when i logon on i have updates but when i enter my password to get them or any time i have to enter my password it doesnt work the passord box goes but then most apps dont work any ideas
[02:42] <funkyMiNT> is adept like synaptics?
[02:42] <Toma-> Bizzeh, what are u trying to do?
[02:42] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, Might have been me?
[02:43] <funkyMiNT> just a program that lists what u have isntalled and whatever else is avail to download and it does everythign for you
[02:43] <Bizzeh> Toma-: get my wireless card (rt2500 chipset) to work under a smp-k8 kernel
[02:43] <bimberi> funkyMiNT: yes, same purpose - package management
[02:43] <Azunai> Tony: Dont think so but hey if you can help :P
[02:43] <robotgeek> johndarkhorse: you beckoned?
[02:43] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: your rgiht
[02:43] <Toma-> Bizzeh, why isnt it working?
[02:43] <Bizzeh> Toma-: /lib/modules/linuxwhatever/build is missing
[02:43] <brenner> bimberi, funkyMiNT: http://www.tuxfiles.org/linuxhelp/linuxdir.html
[02:44] <Toma-> Bizzeh, have you installed the headers?
[02:44] <bimberi> onya brenner! :)
[02:44] <Azunai> Tony / Dr Willis: ive just reformated and installed ubuntu "AGAIN" ok so it says theres updates to be done should i do them before doing those ati driver thing u gave me?
[02:44] <Bizzeh> i had the headers installed when i was trying earlier
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, Let me know what your issue is and we'll see.
[02:44] <oceandead> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WifiDocs/RalinkRT2500?action=show&redirect=Rt2500WirelessCardsHowTo
[02:44] <oceandead> ?
[02:44] <frazmanw> how do I change my splash screen?
[02:44] <ssstormy> I'm using jPodder, and it starts with a sh script.  However, though I can run the program just by clicking on the startup script, the menu entry in Applications that I made dosn't start it.
[02:44] <funkyMiNT> YES YES I installed FF 1.5
[02:44] <ssstormy> are there special considerations for sh scripts in the menu?
[02:44] <funkyMiNT> _Jason
[02:44] <brenner> bimberi: i'm beginning to realise i seem to mostly just google for people in here. :)
[02:44] <funkyMiNT> thank you that worked with that libstdc++5
[02:44] <Azunai> tony: i have an ATI X850XT PE and i need to be 3d acceleration enabled so i can use cedega :)
[02:44] <Toma-> Bizzeh, find the exact file thats missing, then run "apt-file search /lib/modules/pattycake/build"
[02:44] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, I don't think it necessarily matters, but I always update before doing stuff.
[02:45] <Toma-> Bizzeh, obviously you need apt-file first
[02:45] <_jason> funkyMiNT: yes?
[02:45] <Azunai> downloading updates now :)
[02:45] <Bizzeh> Toma-: the whole directory isnt there
[02:45] <Toma-> Bizzeh, it'll pick up on directorys too
[02:45] <Bizzeh> Azunai: i managed to get ati binary drivers working fully earlier
[02:45] <Bizzeh> ill find what i did
[02:46] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, hmm that works good except for the video size is like half the size it should be
[02:46] <bimberi> brenner: hehe, i know the feeling (but was lazy this time) - thanks
[02:46] <Azunai> bizzeh: what exactly did you do and how the hell did you get it to work what ati card do you have?
[02:46] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, is there a nother plugin i can try?
[02:46] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, How are you judging what "it should be"?
[02:46] <arm0sfighter> why cant i dirrect connect on gaim to aim?
[02:46] <n00b> hey guys, i have a problem with flash
[02:46] <rixth> What is the 'best' laptop to have for Ubuntu?
[02:46] <Azunai> holy hell i love linux man in windows i get 900kbs download rate in linux im getting 1758kb/s :D
[02:46] <n00b> im not getting any sound
[02:46] <Bizzeh> Azunai: just pm'ed you
[02:46] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, mmm how i see it when using windows
[02:46] <rixth> !flash
[02:46] <ubotu> I guess restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:46] <Bizzeh> and i have a pci-e x700
[02:46] <borisattva> ughh.. what is UP with the forum.. down constantly
[02:47] <owner> i have the same card bizzeh
[02:47] <ssstormy> Azunai, I hate you :) I get 30Kb/s
[02:47] <n00b> !FreeFormats
[02:47] <ubotu> I guess freeformats is There are a large number of Free Formats which are preferred over patent and copyright encumbered formats. They are listed here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeFormats
[02:47] <arm0sfighter> why am i not able to dirrect connect or send files on gaim?
[02:47] <arm0sfighter> when it has the option too
[02:47] <mint> Does anyone know what would cause things not to show up in the Taskbar at the bottom when they are minimized???
[02:47] <meemoo> ubuntu failed to run as user root: wrong password i get this every time i enter my password but it works fine in terminal if i enter my user password the password box goes but no app work
[02:47] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Not really sure.  I don't have anything else to recommend since that works for me.
[02:47] <Bizzeh> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 go down to the Using the drivers from ati.com bit, you have to follow it to the letter, AND do what it says on screen
[02:48] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, hmm u set me up with one where it had like a black loading screen
[02:48] <johndarkhorse> Bizzeh: i apologize. someone may have moved the document or merged it with another one, the rt2500 forums that are linked from the page DO have instructions
[02:48] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, you helped me set it up on aim
[02:48] <mint> why are things not minimizing to the taskbar????
[02:48] <mint> this is really annoying
[02:48] <brenner> rixth: i've heard IBMs are good.  check here for experiences of other users: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptops
[02:48] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: yeah, i searched around a bit and found what to do, the problem is, im gonna have to save a load of stuff to my usb drive so i can read it without my network up
[02:48] <mint> im IBM
[02:48] <mint> lol
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> mcdenyer, Oy, I don't really remember.
[02:49] <Azunai> ssstormy: lol 10MB Cable internet :P
[02:49] <bimberi> frazmanw: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/USplashCustomizationHowto
[02:49] <puff-NNY> could somebody please take like 10 minutes of thier time and assist me with setting up raid in the ubuntu install? If i cant get raid working in ubuntu then i'll be forced to install fedora or even windows on this box =/
[02:49] <dabaR> mint: where are they minimizing to?
[02:49] <TokenBad> is there a way to update xchat in ubuntu?
[02:49] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, hmm ok
[02:49] <Bizzeh> johndarkhorse: i got a amd64 x2 4200 a month ago, and i plan on using it properly
[02:49] <rixth> brenner, thanks
[02:49] <mint> no idea
[02:49] <tonyyarusso> rixth, I have an IBM/Lenovo.  Also see the ThinkWiki for those.
[02:49] <mint> i just dont see them on the bottom
[02:49] <johndarkhorse> TokenBad: only if you build it yourself
[02:49] <TokenBad> johndarkhorse, ok..
[02:49] <mint> only way to switch around is alt-tab
[02:49] <skon> unless you change the bindings....
[02:50] <bimberi> mint: does your panel have a "Window List" applet?
[02:50] <Azunai> bizzeh :P im totaly new to linux if theres something i dont understand can i ask ya :)
[02:50] <rixth> What about the x86 Apple laptops? Anything out on them yet?
[02:50] <mint> no idea
[02:50] <mint> how can i check
[02:50] <meemoo> well thanxs for ur help people
[02:50] <Bizzeh> Azunai: this is my first trip into linux for about... 3 years
[02:50] <johndarkhorse> rixth: what about apple?
[02:50] <borisattva> is there a way to forcebly unmount a SMB that has gone loco without a restart?
[02:50] <BrickMaker> how can i use theme
[02:50] <Azunai> ok :(
[02:50] <rixth> joh, wondering if they are any good for Ubuntu
[02:50] <Bizzeh> was a gentoo person back when i used to play, but i cant be bothered with all that compiling, even on this cpu
[02:50] <BrickMaker> i have downloaded files
[02:50] <bimberi> mint: you could try adding one, right-click on a panel and select Add to Panel...
[02:50] <Toma-> if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :( My settings used to be static on the wifi card, but ive forgotten how to set it up
[02:50] <Azunai> Make sure the universe section of the Ubuntu repositories is enabled (See the AddingRepositoriesHowto) WTF does that mean :)
[02:51] <ssstormy> Azunai, I want... bad...
[02:51] <rixth> !repository
[02:51] <ubotu> rixth: I give up, what is it?
[02:51] <Bizzeh> cd /usr/src/linux && make -j5
[02:51] <Bizzeh> :D
[02:51] <Bizzeh> doesnt take long to build a full kernel on this
[02:51] <_jason> Azunai: isn't that a link?  what page are you on?
[02:51] <rixth> !tell patrick_ about away
[02:51] <johndarkhorse> rixth: i'm sure they work fine. even the airport extreme will work in dapper
[02:51] <rixth> Sweeeet!
[02:51] <BrickMaker> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d check out this theme if any body experience how to use it so let me know
[02:51] <Azunai> tormy : lol
[02:51] <Remillard> if ifconfig shows the right information, is there some reason why it wouldn't go through the router?  Is there some layer between ifconfig and the hardware?
[02:52] <Azunai> jason yeh but linux language confuses me lol
[02:52] <n00b> im still having problems with sound from flash...
[02:52] <crouchingMonkey> quick question here, is it possible to mount an NTFS partition in linux ?
[02:52] <n00b> its not when i view a site... its after i download the flash
[02:52] <eugman> What's the best way to reinstall grub that doesn't involve an buntu installation disk
[02:52] <Bizzeh> something thats always confused me
[02:52] <mint> how can i restore the default panel at hte bottom
[02:52] <eugman> yes croaching monkey
[02:53] <Azunai> hey bizzeh which driver did you get from ATI site the big 32 mb one?
[02:53] <mcdenyer> tonyyarusso, whats the difference between gstreamer-0.8* mozilla-mplayer and just mozilla-mplayer?
[02:53] <Bizzeh> Azunai: yes
[02:53] <cyphase> is D-BUS event-driven?
[02:53] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell crouchingMonkey about ntfs
[02:53] <Azunai> Bizzeh: cheers man :)
[02:53] <cyphase> i'm prett sure it is..
[02:53] <cyphase> pretty*
[02:53] <cyphase> but not ocmpletely
[02:53] <BrickMaker> http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d how can i install this theme
[02:53] <cyphase> completely
[02:53] <cyphase> argh
[02:53] <brenner> mint: you removed it?
[02:53] <Bizzeh> how do you say "gnome" as in the desktop.. gee-nome like the human gee-nome, or gnome, like those porcalin dudes with funny hats around my garden pond?
[02:53] <mint> no
[02:53] <mint> its there
[02:53] <eugman> mcdenyer Gstreamer-o.8* would get all the plugins methinks
[02:53] <mint> but nothing will minimize to it
[02:54] <mint> it will give me the windows list
[02:54] <Azunai> LOL 32 mb downloaded in about 5 secconds :P i love linux 2086kbs man linux networks are so much better than windows :P
[02:54] <mint> but before it has the windows in it
[02:54] <mint> like seperated.. just like windows
[02:54] <mint> now i just have 1 icon
[02:54] <dabaR> are they all one same program, like nautilus, or different programs, mint?
[02:54] <brenner> BrickMaker: sys > prefs > theme > install theme
[02:55] <ssstormy> Azunai, ..... >-(
[02:55] <Toma-> BrickMaker, what part are you trying to install?
[02:55] <Bizzeh> Azunai: i can download faster under windows than linux
[02:55] <brenner> mint: try adding the window list applet to it
[02:55] <bimberi> mint: that might be the "Window Selector" applet, does a menu pop up when you click it
[02:55] <BrickMaker> brenner, i'm talking about this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989&PHPSESSID=44f34e7bf919d5f2d416ef761724b05d it has individual files to download and i have downloaded all
[02:55] <mint> right now when i click it
[02:56] <mint> it shows me a menu
[02:56] <Azunai> i cant i get around a max of 1100kbs in windows but in linux im getting 2.2mbs its way faster
[02:56] <mint> just like a dropdown
[02:56] <mint> with everything thats open
[02:56] <Toma-> BrickMaker, open 1 or 2 up and see if theres a README of INSTALL file
[02:56] <ssstormy> DANG!!! ubuntu has some nice themes
[02:56] <dabaR> mint: resize it.
[02:56] <Azunai> maybe its cus im on a cable internet and not adsl
[02:56] <mint> i just want all that stuff to be across the bar
[02:56] <mint> all
[02:56] <eugman> Oh the troubles you face Azunai. The horror!
[02:56] <mint> unreal
[02:56] <mint> lololol
[02:56] <jsimon> hello
[02:56] <bimberi> mint: yes, you need the "Window List" applet (as per breener)
[02:56] <bimberi> *brenner
[02:56] <Azunai> LOL eugman dude im having mega problems this ati driver install is unbelievably hard
[02:56] <kinagi> Does anyone know where I can find a list of games that work on linux?
[02:56] <borisattva> is there a way to forcebly unmount a SMB without a full restart when its stuck in thinking that its busy?
[02:57] <eugman> touch'e
[02:57] <brenner> mint: BrickMaker not sure of the menu addon, but the icon and clearlooks theme can be done by the method i said
[02:57] <ssstormy> kinagi, wine has a list of ones that work with it
[02:57] <brenner> whoops
[02:57] <mint> I LOVE U GUYS
[02:57] <ssstormy> try searching google. I remember there was such a list somewhere
[02:57] <brenner> mint: not meant for you :P
[02:57] <mint> im actually making progress tonight
[02:57] <kinagi> Is there anything not involving Wine?
[02:57] <cyphase> BrikcMaker, install gnome-art, then go to System -> Preferences -> Art Manager
[02:57] <mint> i got the menu
[02:57] <_adam> man i can't get vpnc to work
[02:57] <cyphase> BrickMaker*
[02:57] <_adam> just hangs
[02:57] <brenner> BrickMaker: the other ones (ff, thunderbird) will prob. have to be done through the apps themselves
[02:57] <mint> who was just asking about assing a theme?
[02:57] <mint> cause thats my next step
[02:58] <cyphase> brenner, no, the icon theme provides them
[02:58] <mint> adding a theme
[02:58] <cyphase> i just tried it right now
[02:58] <jsimon> i have a prob I am on my inspiron 9300 and i have and USB key board but it is not workin it is and nexxtech whit usb ub and my mouse is connected to it and working
[02:58] <BrickMaker> i don't have thunderbird
[02:58] <brenner> cyphase: provides what?
[02:58] <BrickMaker> i have ff
[02:58] <mint> what file should i point it to when it asks to install the thme?
[02:58] <dabaR> mint: what did you do to fix that window list?
[02:58] <mint> resize
[02:58] <mint> i added the windows list
[02:59] <dabaR> I win.
[02:59] <mint> it was so small it was forcing it to be just a menu
[02:59] <mint> when i resized it
[02:59] <mint> all the stuff showed ont he taskbar
[02:59] <_adam> so ive got vpnc.conf and tun module loaded
[02:59] <anto9us> jsimon, maybe you need usb legacy support enabled in the bios
[02:59] <_adam> and im missing anything else for vpnc to work?
[02:59] <_adam> im using 6.04 x86
[02:59] <lamb> how do I restart the x server???
[02:59] <dabaR> bimberi: Ubuntu!
[02:59] <cyphase> brenner, the ff and tb icons
[03:00] <bimberi> lamb: sudo invoke-rc.d gdm restart
[03:00] <mcdenyer> eugman, u wouldnt happen to know of any other inter streaming plugins would ya?
[03:00] <lamb> bimberi thanks
[03:00] <bimberi> lamb: yw :)
[03:00] <mint> i keep getting this "fiole format is invalid" when trying to install a theme
[03:00] <dabaR> lamb: alt-ctrl-bksp works too.
[03:00] <mint> what files should i use?
[03:00] <eugman> mcdenyer you do know what the * in gstreamer-0.8* means don't you?
[03:01] <brenner> cyphase: oh, i wasn't talking about icons, i was talking about the ff and thunderbird skins.
[03:01] <dabaR> !themes
[03:01] <Remillard> okay, well no one has any ideas about my networking issue... is there somewhere other than ubuntuforums to ask questions (since the site seems to be toasted)
[03:01] <cyphase> brenner, oh
[03:01] <paranoid_> wom 15
[03:02] <anto9us> Remillard, what's your networking issue?
[03:02] <dabaR> for breakfast that is...
[03:02] <eli> any good tips for installing an ati driver?
[03:02] <dabaR> ;)
[03:03] <Remillard> anto9us: installed fresh off of 5.10 cd, says it detects the network card.. have looked through dmesg and it does seem to find it... ifconfig reports correctly (matches the report on the gentoo partition)... however cannot ping the router, or anything past it
[03:03] <Remillard> not sure what else to check at this point...
[03:03] <whyameye> if I want to make a WinXP machine dual boot, is there an option already in the Breezy install to handle this?
[03:03] <Azunai> hey bizzeh i got a problem
[03:03] <Azunai> im doing what it says on the site
[03:04] <anto9us> Remillard, can you ping localhost ok?
[03:04] <dabaR> Remillard: what is the IP address? is it a proper one for your network?
[03:04] <eugman> whyameye yes
[03:04] <mint> how would I unstall this
[03:04] <Bizzeh> you need to open up universe and restricted
[03:04] <mint> http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/epian-white/?branch_id=62201&release_id=217010
[03:04] <Bizzeh> and you need to do an apt-update
[03:04] <Azunai> but the ati installer window is too big for me to click anything now i selected unbuntu/breezy
[03:04] <eugman> when you install ubuntu it'll give you the option of installing grub boot loader
[03:04] <Azunai> what do i do?
[03:04] <Remillard> anto9us: I'll try that, but it'll require reboot. (writing these things down ;-))
[03:04] <Bizzeh> Azunai: run it in a console
[03:04] <oneseventeen> whyameye yes there is, but I haven't had the resize existing partition work yet myself :(
[03:04] <Bizzeh> it will do a command version
[03:04] <brenner> Azunai: hold alt
[03:04] <Remillard> dabaR: yes, IP address is the same as used by the other partition, it's a static IP route... also dhcp does not work so I think it's just not getting anything through the card
[03:04] <Azunai> il do the ALT one :P
[03:04] <Azunai> thanks man :)
[03:05] <oneseventeen> how would one go about configuring wireless networking on an old iBook with Ubuntu 5.10?
[03:05] <mcdenyer> eugman, no
[03:05] <brenner> Azunai: and you can move the window around w/out using the titlebar
[03:05] <eugman> whyameye you should do a search at video.google.com for ubuntu it has a video guide to a dual boot install
[03:05] <cyphase> can someone recommend a good landscape wallpaper?
[03:05] <Remillard> ahh
[03:05] <Remillard> should have maybe tried lspci
[03:05] <Remillard> just remembered that command
[03:05] <Azunai> im new to linux mate been on it an hour now so thanks for the top brenner :)
[03:05] <cyphase> something bright
[03:05] <dabaR> Remillard: post output of ifconfig, and /etc/network/interfaces to pastebin.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:05] <anto9us> Remillard, ifconfig shows same inet address as in gentoo?
[03:05] <cyphase> Azunai, welcome :)
[03:05] <mint> http://themes.freshmeat.net/projects/epian-white/?branch_id=62201&release_id=217010
[03:05] <Aaron_Mason> anybody know of any linux programs to get around DVD region restrictions?  Like AnyDVD or DVD Region Free, but for linux?
[03:05] <Remillard> anto9us: yep... and broadcast, mask, MAC address, etc
[03:05] <mint> anyone?
[03:05] <eugman> mcdenyer: it's a wild card character . if you do sudo apt-get insteall gstreamer-0.8* it will install all file formats it can
[03:06] <Doomhammer> anyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?
[03:06] <anto9us> Remillard, do you have any other nic installed?
[03:06] <mint> i cant get this thme to install, not sure if I need another program or something
[03:06] <eugman> you might still need some propietary ones like the w32codecs
[03:06] <Remillard> anto9us: yeah there's a wireless NIC which I'm not currently using
[03:06] <mcdenyer> eugman, cool
[03:06] <anto9us> Remillard, ifdown it
[03:06] <dabaR> mint: is that a fluxbox theme?
[03:07] <imexius> d3a is the best
[03:07] <mcdenyer> eugman, gstreamer has the codecs i just need a different player
[03:07] <Azunai> BIZZEH!!! HELP
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcdenyer about cli
[03:07] <Azunai> i got a huge problem
[03:07] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: please hold the drama
[03:07] <Azunai> i did the sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel command
[03:07] <brenner> cyphase: you just want us to search for you don't you? ;-)
[03:07] <Bizzeh> yes
[03:07] <Azunai> and it said something about it cant find em
[03:07] <Doomhammer> anyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?
[03:07] <Kyral> the modules source
[03:07] <eugman> I'm only aware of totem mplayer and xine and I don't know which have in browser parts
[03:07] <Remillard> dabaR: thanks, i'll check /etc/network/interfaces... not real familiar yet with ubuntu's /etc structure
[03:07] <Azunai> now i got a box up saying do i wanna install something?
[03:07] <Remillard> anto9us: thanks, I'll try that too...
[03:07] <Bizzeh> you need to unlock universe and restricted
[03:08] <Bizzeh> then apt-get update
[03:08] <Richard_> Simple(?) problem... When I try to install ubuntu on an XP machine it says initrd-tools package failed to install and fails. Anyone know what to do?
[03:08] <Remillard> okay, well off to reboot and give it a shot
[03:08] <Toma-> if i have a router/modem, and have a WAP connected to that, how would i setup a wireless card? the WAP is dhcp, the router is dhcp, yet, i cannot dhcp with the wifi card :( My settings used to be static on the wifi card, but ive forgotten how to set it up
[03:08] <Azunai> wooow one steo at a time?
[03:08] <Bizzeh> then apt-get -f install
[03:08] <bimberi> Remillard: also, make sure you have a default gateway set up (sudo route add default gw <address of router>"
[03:08] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell Richard_ about verify
[03:08] <Azunai> what do i do first?
[03:08] <TokenBad> well shoot...I tried to install xchat 2.6.1 and no dice
[03:08] <dabaR> Remillard: post that file, and output of ifconfig if you will.
[03:08] <Bizzeh> !ubuntu tell Azunai universe
[03:08] <ubotu> Bizzeh: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:08] <Bizzeh> POS bot
[03:08] <cyphase> brenner, no, i'm looking
[03:09] <cyphase> but i thought maybe someone had a good one
[03:09] <dabaR> there is no reboots, wth? these gentoo users...;)
[03:09] <anto9us> Remillard, I've had problems between eth0 and wlan0 best to disable whichever isn't being used
[03:09] <Azunai> argh blizzeh left
[03:09] <danno> In Ubuntu Breezy, I noticed that it doesn't automatically mount floppy disks, unlike other distributions of Linux. I looked in /etc/fstab and noticed that /dev/fd0 and /dev/fd1 are set to "noauto" so if I set it to "auto" instead, will it automatically mount floppy disks like other distributions when I click on the floppy icon?
[03:09] <Azunai> now im screwed
[03:09] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: there are over 500 folks here that may be able to help you
[03:09] <scenestar> ugh
[03:09] <Azunai> but im half way through doing what he told me to do
[03:09] <Azunai> lol
[03:09] <lamb> where do i have to put a script in order to load it before x?
[03:09] <Doomhammer> danno: no the "auto" option means it will attempt to mount the devices at boot
[03:10] <scenestar> lamb
[03:10] <scenestar> initrd
[03:10] <lamb> scenestar, ?
[03:10] <scenestar> initrd
[03:10] <Azunai> ok heres the problem
[03:10] <Toma-> anyone know anything about the route command? (other than man and rtfm)
[03:10] <Azunai> im installing the ati drivers as descirbed https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29
[03:10] <lamb> scenestar, is that a folder?
[03:10] <Azunai> there
[03:10] <mint> is it complicated to install a new theme?
[03:10] <scenestar> lamb
[03:10] <dabaR> danno: you could read the mount manual.
[03:10] <danno> Doomhammer: oh, well how can I get it to automatically mount the floppy drive by clicking on the floppy icon like other distributions then, because I had to manually mount it with root and the people using this ubuntu system needed my help to do it right, is there a way I can help them to get it to automount like other distributions please?
[03:11] <danno> dabaR: I'm trying to do this in a short period of time otherwise I would, isn't this something simple?
[03:11] <lamb> scenestar, is initdr a folder??
[03:11] <Doomhammer> danno: i have no idea... i just right-click on it a and choose "mount" before opening it :S
[03:11] <scenestar> fire up a terminal and do this: sudo slocate -u
[03:11] <mcdenyer> i need help getting surround sound set up
[03:11] <dabaR> danno: I have never yet seen someone have success with floppies, which means nothing really, but...
[03:11] <danno> Doomhammer: I tried that it didn't work it said invalid or unknown file type but mounting it manually via sudo worked
[03:11] <Azunai> and im up to the bit that says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernal
[03:11] <danno> dabaR: nor have I ever experienced this problem
[03:11] <dabaR> danno: nice, good work.
[03:11] <mint> Does anyone know how to install a themse from  Themes.Freshmeat.net
[03:11] <Doomhammer> danno: hmm, i dunno then, never had that happen :/
[03:12] <eugman> I think I know a roundabout way mint
[03:12] <danno> Doomhammer: ok I tried searching the forums but they're down again
[03:12] <mcdenyer> johndarkhorse, hey can u link me to a wiki about surround sound
[03:12] <NNY> does anybody know how to setup raid in the ubuntu install?
[03:12] <Azunai> but when i do that i get an error message in a blue box saying it cant be found then i press ok and it says do i wanna install something this isnt described in the readme
[03:12] <dabaR> mint: did you read the private message from ubotu?
[03:12] <sexualpotatoes> how do i open the file browser as root?
[03:12] <Toma-> grr
[03:12] <eugman> actually nvm
[03:12] <scenestar> ah
[03:12] <scenestar> no wonder this place is flooeded
[03:12] <scenestar> have fun helping out
[03:12] <scenestar> io have no patience
[03:13] <danno> Doomhammer: is there another channel on here with experienced Ubuntu users who could help me?
[03:13] <anto9us> sexualpotatoes, gksu nautilus
[03:13] <JDigital> no
[03:13] <yigal> Is the web forum closed often?
[03:13] <JDigital> #ubuntu is pretty much it
[03:13] <scenestar> danno what sort of remark is that
[03:13] <johndarkhorse> danno: just ask your question here
[03:13] <lamb> i made a script but i want ubuntu to run it before X, where do i put it??
[03:13] <brenner> danno: i don't think changing it to auto would do anything ... for one, that isn't a valid option (man fstab, then type '/noauto' to find the section)
[03:13] <eugman> yigal, no just lately it's been down.
[03:13] <danno> scenestar: a simple question, not a remark
[03:13] <Doomhammer> danno: not that i know of ... sorry :(
[03:13] <NNY> nobody will answer my raid question =/
[03:13] <scenestar> its insulting
[03:14] <danno> scenestar: your misconception then
[03:14] <scenestar> nny somehting with fstab
[03:14] <JDigital> NNY, danno: don't worry, sometimes people miss your question since it's so busy, and sometimes nobody is about when you ask it who knows the answer and has time to answer it
[03:14] <imexius> umm why is the ubuntuf orums down again?
[03:14] <scenestar> and danno
[03:14] <danno> brenner: thanks hmmm
[03:14] <eugman> !patience
[03:14] <ubotu> There are a lot of questions, but only few who might answer you. Please be patient.
[03:14] <scenestar> good luck finding help
[03:14] <danno> JDigital: thanks
[03:14] <danno> scenestar: thanks
[03:15] <imexius> why is the ubuntu forums down again?
[03:15] <eugman> 'cause
[03:15] <imexius> gha
[03:15] <dabaR> imexius: why would we know?
[03:15] <NNY> hrm... i have been asking the same type of questions for a good 30-40 mins and one person sent me to a link that doesnt even work.... i just want to get raid setup on this server
[03:15] <danno> brenner: thanks I have used other distributions and was surprised at having to mount the floppy manually with sudo for the owners of the system
[03:15] <anto9us> NNY, first create partitions of type raid then create a container and add the partitions to it
[03:15] <scenestar> they didnt pay the gassbill
[03:15] <bimberi> NNY: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RaidConfigurationHowto (someone did point you to this earlier)
[03:15] <hardtime664> !ubuntu tell hardtime664 about sourcelist
[03:15] <ubotu> I don't know, hardtime664
[03:15] <hardtime664> !ubuntu tell hardtime664 about repositories
[03:15] <ubotu> hardtime664: Huh?
[03:15] <brenner> danno: is mount removable media checked in sys > orefs > removable discs?
[03:16] <NNY> yep, they pointed me to that link earlier... and it doesnt work... it goes to the forums which are down atm
[03:16] <brenner> *prefs
[03:16] <imexius> dabaR: this is the ubuntuforums irc channel, i think it is its duty to know :P
[03:16] <bimberi> hardtime664: /msg ubotu <factoid>
[03:16] <hardtime664> guys whats the link for source lists?
[03:16] <eugman> ubotu: tell hardtime644 about sorcelist
[03:16] <lamb> where are ubuntu's boot scripts located????
[03:16] <eugman> ubotu tell hardtime644 about repositories
[03:16] <dabaR> imexius: no, this channel dislikes forums on the most part, in fact.
[03:16] <danno> brenner: sys > orefs?
[03:16] <brenner> imexius: most of us have nothing to do with the forums
[03:16] <lamb> startup scripts sorry
[03:16] <brenner> danno: prefs, sorry
[03:16] <bimberi> NNY: ah, my apologies
[03:16] <eugman> lamb would you be happy if thew script ran when you logged in?
[03:16] <danno> brenner: i'm using kubuntu
[03:17] <hardtime664> !ubotu tell hardtime664 about repositories
[03:17] <dabaR> imexius: well, no, not true. Just we have nothing to do with them.
[03:17] <hardtime664> sorry guys
[03:17] <danno> brenner: dont apologise I thank you for helping me
[03:17] <lamb> eugman, i need it to run before x
[03:17] <brenner> danno: oh.  have you asked in #kubuntu?
[03:17] <Doomhammer> anyone having problems with Quake 4 where the sound is ... distorted / weird ?
[03:17] <eugman> ah, k.
[03:17] <dabaR> NNY: as you can read, ubuntuforums are not working, that is why the link did not work that was given.
[03:17] <danno> brenner: no i will try thanks
[03:17] <NNY> bimberi: I have a promise and intel raid controller on my mobo (asus pc-dl delux)... nieither of them made it to see one drive in the ubuntu setup. so now im attempting to setup the software raid in it
[03:18] <hardtime664> hmm doesn't work, guys whats the command to see source/reps - bot?
[03:18] <bimberi> NNY: sorry, i don't know how to set up raid controllers :|
[03:18] <lamb> eugman, so do you know where do i have to put it?? its  a script to correct my resolution so i need it to run before x starts
[03:18] <bimberi> hardtime664: /msg ubotu sources
[03:19] <eugman> sorry no
[03:19] <VR823>  /by
[03:19] <lamb> k, thanks anyways
[03:19] <NNY> bimberi: well not trying to set them up.. i gave up on that option. I'm trying to setup the software raid in the ubuntu install and im utterly lost at that part
[03:19] <imexius> http://ubuntugaming.org <-- good forums
[03:19] <anto9us> NNY, you'll need to set your boot partition on the ATA drive as boot loader won't see the raid
[03:19] <hardtime664> tx bimberi
[03:19] <Azunai> What do i need to install the flgrx kernal the 386 or 686 version?
[03:20] <mint> k so i am in /home/mint/Desktop in the ternimal  how do i get to /usr/shared/themes
[03:20] <bimberi> hardtime664: np :)
[03:20] <mint> im in as root
[03:20] <TokenBad> what is lperl?
[03:20] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mint about cli
[03:20] <mint> ahh
[03:20] <mint> yes
[03:20] <mint> im going back to look at that page
[03:20] <anto9us> NNY, first create partitions of type raid then create a container and add the partitions to it
[03:20] <Azunai> What do i need to install the flgrx kernal the 386 or 686 version?
[03:21] <lamb> anyone knows where ubuntu's startup scripts are??
[03:21] <owner> either azunai
[03:21] <anto9us> NNY, your first raid container will be called md0
[03:21] <Azunai> thx owner
[03:21] <ssstormy> I'm trying to use Kino to edit some of my video, but even though it's DV, the video dosn't play at full speed even with the LOWEST (black and white, pixelated) setting, while it plays fine on other players, even the XviD version
[03:21] <NNY> anto9us: would you mind walking me through all that? i am very new to raid and dont know really much at all about linux partitions... i usually have them done automatically
[03:21] <ssstormy> is anyone familiar enough with kino to help me with this?
[03:22] <danno> do I need to specify vfat in my fstab settings file for floppy for it to automount?
[03:22] <GKJ> !help
[03:22] <danno> no one talking in kubuntu so i ask here
[03:22] <GKJ> I am a newbie here and this is the first time I use RIC
[03:22] <GKJ> sorry, irc
[03:22] <anto9us> NNY, ok, working from memory, first create partitions of type linux raid on the drives you want to include in the raid
[03:22] <Doomhammer> quake4 is complaining about "frames overflowed and dropped" while outputting sound... how do i fix this?
[03:23] <TokenBad> anyone know what lperl is?  I get an error about this when trying to install xchat 2.6.1
[03:23] <danno> should I just add vfat to /etc/fstab for my floppy drive to automount?
[03:23] <dabaR> danno: you would be best to read the mount man page
[03:23] <n00b> HELLOOOOOOOO
[03:23] <n00b> hey guys
[03:23] <Azunai> Right according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?
[03:23] <n00b> how can i use macromedia products in linux?
[03:23] <danno> dabaR: I would like to but I don't have time, I have to fly back soon from my grandparent's house
[03:23] <n00b> like for example flash and fireworks
[03:23] <anto9us> NNY, you want to add a boot partition and swap partition outside the raid, so reserve some space for them
[03:23] <Toma-> Ive got my wifi working... sort of.  It is infact a DHCP setup, but when i run 'dhclient wlan0' it looks for a dhcp adress at 255.255.255.255... i know thats wrong, so i tried the -s <ip-to-router> and that didnt work either. Im guessing theres something im missing here?
[03:24] <dabaR> danno: you have been here longer than it takes to find out.
[03:24] <eli> hello everyone
[03:24] <GKJ> hi, eli
[03:24] <GKJ> are you new here?
[03:24] <danno> dabaR: you have been responding long enough to help me then ?
[03:25] <eli> anybody know how to resolve this problem with ati video drivers?
[03:25] <Richard_> johndarkhorse - I don't have a linux installation running so the verify routines won't help - any other way to do it?
[03:25] <eli>  extension "XFree86-DRI" missing on display ":0.0".
[03:25] <eli> GKJ, no im not new just havent been here for a while
[03:25] <NNY> anto9us: could we talk in private chat?
[03:25] <skon> Is there a way to upgrade xchat via the repository?
[03:25] <Azunai> Right according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?
[03:25] <dabaR> danno: I helped you, but maybe not in the way you want.
[03:25] <dabaR> danno: If I had felt like reading the manual instead of you, then no.
[03:25] <anto9us> NNY, I charge UK30 per hour
[03:25] <danno> dabaR: wow thanks
[03:25] <dabaR> danno: welcome.
[03:26] <danno> dabaR: I'll never have to use IRC again, I'll just read the man files
[03:26] <mint> does anyone know how to install themes from freshmeat?
[03:26] <NNY> anto9us: hrmmmmm
[03:26] <mint> there is not theme file
[03:26] <brenner> danno: since it sounds like a generic question, you could also try #linuxhelp
[03:26] <GKJ> it seems you are an old user, but I am new, so I am puzzled about your talking
[03:26] <dabaR> GKJ: did you ask your question yet?
[03:26] <skon> Is there a way to upgrade xchat via the repository?
[03:26] <danno> brenner: thank you i will try that too
[03:26] <n00b> who is ubotu?
[03:26] <Azunai> Right according to the readme it says type the following sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but when i do i get an error message saying its not there so what should i do just apt-get fglrx-kernel?
[03:26] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell n00b about yourself
[03:26] <brenner> skon: nothing but security updates until the next release iirc
[03:26] <eugman> Untill you figure out how ,mint, you could get some themes from art.gnome.com with the art manager
[03:26] <dabaR> danno: you sometimes need to read the page. No offense.
[03:26] <bluefoxicy> Anyone else experiencing excessive CPU utilization in dapper?
[03:27] <eli> a highly intellegent being
[03:27] <eepberries> hello. i'm new to linux. i installed a program but i don't know where it installed to nor how to run it. i tried installing the Firestarter firewall. how do i access it?
[03:27] <danno> dabaR: i know i was trying to hurry though thank you for your help
[03:27] <GKJ> dabaR
[03:27] <skon> brenner: so i must get it myself from the site?
[03:27] <danno> dabaR: when you have old people bickering over your back it makes you want to try to get things done faster :)
[03:27] <eugman> eeepberries: Applications -> system tools
[03:27] <brenner> skon: yes, pretty much.
[03:27] <GKJ> No, not yet, I installed the system on my laptop yesterday and didn't know what to do next
[03:27] <dabaR> danno: good luck.
[03:27] <bluefoxicy> http://rafb.net/paste/results/LV2Eil88.html  Thys is constant.
[03:28] <NNY> anto9us: the problem is i dont understand what you were saying about the raid config
[03:28] <danno> dabaR: thanks
[03:28] <eepberries> eug: it's not listed under system tools
[03:28] <anto9us> NNY, you know how to create a partition?
[03:28] <NNY> anto9us: i dont know much about raid or linux partitions
[03:28] <GKJ> My major system is Windows XP, but I want to try linux, so I think mapping from windows to linux is important, isn't it?
[03:28] <bluefoxicy> notice X is using 40%, update-notifier 30%, the notification tray uses 20% itself.
[03:28] <eugman> how did you install it?
[03:28] <dabaR> bluefoxicy: are you comlpaining about the CPU, or the RAM?
[03:28] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  the CPU
[03:28] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  the RAM usage is actually good for what I have as a working set.
[03:28] <eepberries> i used the add applications utility
[03:28] <NNY> anto9us: yes, i just dont know what they all mean in linux... the various swap, /, ext3
[03:29] <eugman> ubotu tell eugman about ku
[03:29] <eugman> ubotu tell eugman about kubuntu
[03:29] <GKJ> I am reading the manual of Ubuntu, maybe I will be acquitained with the system some hours later
[03:29] <dabaR> bluefoxicy: tried restarting X?
[03:29] <uber_spaced> NNY, what do you need to know?
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  that's what I just did, that's how the CPU usage came to be what it is.
[03:29] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  wow, a 'killall update-notifier' resolves it.
[03:29] <eugman> hmmm. odd
[03:30] <Toma-> file a bug, and move on
[03:30] <anto9us> NNY, create a partition of type ext3 of about 100Mb and set it's mount point as /boot then create a swap partition of what size you think is adequate, about twice ram size is what I go for...
[03:30] <NNY> uber_spaced: im trying to setup two 80gb drives to act as one... i gave up on my onboard raid controller... so now im trying to set them up using software raid in ubuntu install. But i dont know what to choose or how to set it all up
[03:30] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  of the 4 in that pastebin, the lower 3 drop off the top display; and xorg drops to 2.7%
[03:30] <brenner> eepberries: try running a terminal and typing: 'killall gnome-panel' to refresh the menu
[03:30] <Jon_Kinderman> I am new to linux, how can i set up a file sharing server using ubuntu, or is there a better distro for it/
[03:30] <dabaR> bluefoxicy: good.
[03:30] <eepberries> alright i'll try that
[03:30] <brenner> eepberries: if not, you can run it from the terminal, or add a shortcut yourself
[03:30] <NNY> anto9us: do this on both drives or just one?
[03:30] <GKJ> hi, Jon, I am new too, but I think I am newer than u
[03:30] <anto9us> NNY, then create partitions of type Linux raid with no mount points on drives you want to include in the raid
[03:31] <bluefoxicy> dabaR:  restarting update-notifier doesn't recreate the problem.  Must be a burp.
[03:31] <uber_spaced> NNY, I dont have much experience w/ raid stuff.
[03:31] <psusi> NNY, have you read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FakeRaidHowto?
[03:31] <dabaR> Jon_Kinderman: Ubuntu is fine. What OS do you want to share files with?
[03:31] <anto9us> NNY, the /boot should be on a drive that your bios can see, not one attached to the raid controller
[03:31] <Jon_Kinderman> windows and if possible mac
[03:32] <fuel> irssi rules
[03:32] <anto9us> NNY, swap can be anywhere you like
[03:32] <eepberries> brenner: that did it. thanks
[03:32] <Azunai> how do you download from apt-get and not install it just download it
[03:32] <dabaR> Jon_Kinderman: Use samba for windows. Not sure about Macs. NFS is I think a little more involved to set up, but not sure, but I think that supports everything.
[03:32] <Toma-> or just make a swapfile :O
[03:32] <Astinus> Would anyone know why Ubuntu Forums are broken?
[03:32] <brenner> eepberries: np
[03:32] <eepberries> but i just got a weird notification. it said something like "could not grab mouse: a malicious user is possibly watching in on your session"
[03:33] <johndarkhorse> eepberries: are you running a high system load right now?
[03:33] <Azunai> how do you download from apt-get and not install it just download it
[03:33] <eepberries> not that i know of. i accidentally clicked the "add applications" button twice though when it happened
[03:34] <glacious> is it common for K3b to not show the FIFO or Device buffer info?  just says "no info"
[03:34] <eugman> Astinus: Zeus sneezed perhaps.
[03:34] <dcode> I'm trying to use the session dbus, but when I start the session, no socket is made under /tmp
[03:34] <brenner> Azunai: i've always just gone through: http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/
[03:34] <bimberi> Azunai: sudo apt-get install -d <package>
[03:34] <anto9us> NNY, when they're set up you can set create partitions of type linux raid, they won't do anything till you add them to a container and then set the container as a mount point you probably want to set it as /
[03:35] <brenner> but that's probably better. :-)
[03:35] <Astinus> eugman: Just wondered ;)
[03:35] <glacious> what is growisofs?  can any DVD reader read it, even in windows?
[03:35] <NNY> anto9us: sorry mate.... but you have completely lost me with all of this =(
[03:35] <anto9us> NNY, container will be called md0
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: in a terminal type
[03:35] <brenner> bimberi: does that dowload depending debs as well?
[03:35] <eugman> Perhaps an op can change the topic to : Forums are down. We don't know why.
[03:35] <johndarkhorse> "man apt-get" Azunai
[03:35] <brenner> *download even
[03:35] <Azunai> im not sure thats what i need to do tho
[03:35] <Azunai> im very confused at the minuite
[03:36] <dabaR> date
[03:36] <bimberi> brenner: i'm fairly sure so
[03:36] <dabaR> oops
[03:36] <anto9us> NNY, well, raid does require some understanding of partitioning
[03:36] <pablo928> Hi everybody. Is there a way to edit configuration files on a ubuntu server via ssh?
[03:36] <mint> How do u install oen of these themes from freshmeat????
[03:36] <mint> I copied it to the themes folder
[03:36] <mint> nothing
[03:36] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: in the terminal, after you type "man apt-get" it will answer your question
[03:36] <Kyral> pablo928: ssh in and do it with a text editor?
[03:36] <mint> and it sayd the file format is invalid when i try to install
[03:36] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mint about themes
[03:36] <fuel> whats a good terminal?
[03:36] <mint> i saw that
[03:36] <mint> but im trying to install this specific one
[03:37] <mint> and it wotn install
[03:37] <dabaR> mint: you are installing a fluxbox theme onto gnome, I told you before actually.
[03:37] <NNY> anto9us: do you possibly have a spare box that you could boot up and help me through the setup screens of this?
[03:37] <anto9us> NNY, I'm just pointing out the requirements and the order in which to do things
[03:37] <mint> dabar: i am 100% new
[03:37] <NNY> anto9us: i know thats asking alot =/
[03:37] <anto9us> NNY, not here, only have my laptop
[03:37] <Azunai> but the problem is im following a tuturial and it says do sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel but i get a nice box up saying it cant find the kernel then it offers me some sort of download i think which fails ?
[03:37] <Azunai> so i dont know what to do
[03:37] <mint> does tha mean it just is not going to work
[03:37] <dabaR> mint: not that I notices.
[03:37] <pablo928>  Kyral-when I do that it says that that is not supported.
[03:37] <brenner> mint: how are you trying to install it?
[03:37] <dabaR> s/s/d/
[03:37] <fuel> anyone?
[03:37] <mint> i used the install option
[03:37] <mint> that didnt work
[03:37] <fuel> good terminal?
[03:38] <mint> then i just used terminal to copy the Dir
[03:38] <mint> to /usr/share/themes
[03:38] <brenner> fuel: gnome-terminal works fine for me
[03:38] <bimberi> fuel: gnome-terminal works for me
[03:38] <dabaR> mint: that theme is not for your windows, in essence.
[03:38] <mint> gotcha
[03:38] <bimberi> brenner: :)
[03:38] <johndarkhorse> fuel: there are dozens of terminals, each with good and bad
[03:38] <brenner> bimberi: heh
[03:38] <anto9us> NNY, I've given the information you need, you shouldn't need much else, first create partitions then the raid and set mount points, swap will automatically set its mount point
[03:38] <Toma-> mint, its easier, (if its just for you) to install it in ~/.themes
[03:39] <dabaR> Toma-: it seems he has a fluxbox theme, and uses metacity
[03:39] <anto9us> NNY, raid type 0 is a stripe for speed and type 1 is for mirroring
[03:39] <Toma-> oh my.
[03:39] <Knowerrors> Can anyone tell me how to remove all carriage returns in a document?
[03:40] <soap> how to use sudo
[03:40] <fuel> can i config gnometerminal to be borderless and titleless in my background?
[03:40] <brenner> Knowerrors: dos2unix command
[03:40] <NNY> anto9us: one sec, i have an idea
[03:40] <dabaR> Knowerrors: be more specific, I think.
[03:40] <n00b> ZOMG ADOBE BOUGHT MACROMEDIA
[03:40] <Toma-> :O
[03:40] <GKJ> who uses latex to work
[03:40] <beardousa> I just added a sound card to my system.  How do I get Ubuntu to detect it?
[03:41] <Azunai> Kryal: i need ur expertise again :(
[03:41] <Razor-X> hmmm, I'm having some troubles getting GLX configured for nVidia
[03:41] <Kyral> huh?
[03:41] <mint> how do i delete the entire dir
[03:41] <crimsun> beardousa: it should be configured automatically
[03:41] <Razor-X> n00b: ahhh, maybe Macromedia will turn around :P
[03:41] <mint> usr/share/themes/EpianWhite
[03:41] <eugman> soap do you need to know how to use sudo?
[03:41] <mint> rm wont do it
[03:41] <imexius> sudo nvidia-glx
[03:41] <imexius> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:41] <soap> yes
[03:41] <Razor-X> imexius: yes, I have nvidia-glx installed
[03:41] <brenner> GKJ: i /have/ used it. why?
[03:41] <Razor-X> imexius: and yes, it's enabled
[03:41] <soap> i wanna to know it
[03:41] <Knowerrors> dabaR: Ive got a text document I opened in Kate, and openoffice, that has carrige returns that make it one long skinny column down the left hand side
[03:41] <imexius> did you reboot?
[03:41] <kasemodz> does anyone when ubuntu forums would be back up?
[03:41] <Razor-X> imexius: but when I tell my xorg.conf to use ``nvidia'' device instead of ``nv'', it hangs
[03:42] <Richard_> regarding verify of the install media, there is a way to intercept the install and generate the hash key, but it requires a knowledge of the image size - how can I measure it?
[03:42] <Knowerrors> dabaR: and I want it to spread out and fill the whole page
[03:42] <Razor-X> imexius: yes
[03:42] <Razor-X> imexius: I rebotted my X server and the machine
[03:42] <GKJ> brenner: good, and what kind of packages do you install on your Ubuntu
[03:42] <brenner> GKJ: tetex-bin
[03:42] <beardousa> crimsun: it didn't say that it detected anything new, and anywhere I have a list of sound cards to select from it's still blank.  Could it be because this is an old (pre-plug-and-play?) ISA Sound Blaster AWE32?
[03:42] <dabaR> Knowerrors: and where was this document created, what format is it?
[03:42] <crimsun> beardousa: then you need to ``sudo modprobe snd-sbawe''
[03:42] <beardousa> thanks
[03:42] <eugman> well you place it before a command like "sudo rm -rf bob/" and then type in your password. You won't see any charachters but it'll take the password
[03:43] <eugman> alternatively if yo use gnome you can replace sudo with gksudo
[03:43] <GKJ> brenner:only tetex-bin?
[03:43] <zblach> hey, can i chat with skypers through gaim?
[03:43] <brenner> GKJ: well, that was all i needed.
[03:43] <mint> whats the command to delete a directory
[03:43] <imexius> Razor-X: you should have to manually change it, it should alrady be "nvidia"
[03:43] <Razor-X> mint: rmdir, or rm -r
[03:43] <imexius> Razor-X: shouldn't
[03:43] <GKJ> brenner: I am Chinese, so I want to typeset articles with Chinese
[03:43] <eugman> speaking of which anyone know why I get this:
[03:43] <eugman> (nautilus:19894): GnomeUI-WARNING **: While connecting to session manager:
[03:43] <eugman> Authentication Rejected, reason : None of the authentication protocols specified are supported and host-based authentication failed.
[03:44] <Razor-X> imexius: ah, heh
[03:44] <beardousa> crimsun: no changes yet.  I suppose I need to restart alsa?
[03:44] <beardousa> or maybe it was never started in the first place
[03:44] <mint> Razor-x: thank you !
[03:44] <crimsun> beardousa: no, cat /proc/asound/cards
[03:44] <brenner> GKJ: ah, wouldn't know about that.  but have you searched for tex related packages?
[03:44] <Razor-X> imexius: well, it says ``nv'' on mine, glxgears does nothing
[03:44] <GKJ> brenner: wut kind of articles or books did you typeset under your packages on your machine
[03:44] <Razor-X> correction, glxgears magicall segfaults after I disabled glcore and dri :P
[03:44] <beardousa> oh, there it is
[03:45] <GKJ> brenner: yeah, lots of package and they dependent on other packages, a little puzzle
[03:45] <imexius> Razor-X: when you say it hangs when you try to change it what do you mean? Like when your saving yoru xorg.conf?
[03:45] <crimsun> beardousa: you should be able to use System> Preferences> Sound> Set default sound card
[03:45] <brenner> GKJ: pretty simple stuff ... nothing really complex
[03:45] <Razor-X> imexius: no, xorg.conf is edited fine, I either try ``startx'' or ``sudo /etc/init.d/kdm restart'' and it doesen't work
[03:45] <Knowerrors> dabaR: its a document I copypasted from an email into kate
[03:45] <n00b> hey guys how do i enable stereo sound on my system?
[03:45] <beardousa> crimsun: yep, now it's there
[03:46] <beardousa> thanks for the help!
[03:46] <GKJ> brenner: simple, yeah, simple is good, and how can I make it simple?
[03:46] <Razor-X> startx returns errors that it couldn't load the screen, because it couldn't load the device, and I don't know what's going wrong in the ``device'' portion of my config, assuming I use ``nvidia'' instead of ``nv''
[03:46] <crimsun> beardousa: np. If you want to load it always, then: echo snd-sbawe | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[03:46] <Razor-X> imexius: if I use ``nv'', it works fine, but glxgears simply segfaults
[03:46] <brenner> GKJ: i'm not sure how that would help you.  i wrote my stuff in english
[03:46] <beardousa> oh, that would have been an unpleasant surprise
[03:46] <mint> anyone have the URL for the right vbersion of (apt-get)
[03:47] <pablo928> when I try to edit a remote file with gedit via ssh I receive a error message of GTK error: cannot open the display. How can I edit remote files?
[03:47] <Toma-> !dhcp
[03:47] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Toma-
[03:47] <anto9us> Knowerrors, I don't know if kate supports it but you can try a search and replace on \n
[03:47] <johndarkhorse> pablo928: use nano, gedit is a gui program
[03:47] <Razor-X> GKJ: you want cjk-latex
[03:47] <GKJ> brenner: that's ok, english is ok, and the second language of mine is english,
[03:47] <n00b> helooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[03:47] <Razor-X> GKJ: that's my next project, only I'll be typing Japanese :)
[03:47] <Knowerrors> anto9us: what about Openoffice?
[03:47] <GKJ> brenner: I want to make the latex system take effect with english
[03:47] <anto9us> Knowerrors, I think that should do it, yes
[03:47] <n00b> i need to enable stereo sound... how do i do it
[03:47] <brenner> GKJ: there you go...i'm deferring to Razor-X :)
[03:47] <GKJ> hi, Razor-X
[03:47] <pablo928> johndarkhorse-I thank you very much!
[03:47] <Razor-X> GKJ: hola
[03:48] <GKJ> Razor: are you a Japanese?
[03:48] <nuller> howcome no iTunes for linux? :'(
[03:48] <Razor-X> nuller: 'cuz it's closed source
[03:48] <Razor-X> and Apple doesen't want to make a version for Linux
[03:48] <GKJ> hold on everybody, I will be back in 1min :)
[03:48] <nuller> razor-x, no alternative?
[03:48] <Razor-X> GKJ: on standby.... :P
[03:48] <Razor-X> nuller: there are
[03:49] <sexualpotatoes> is there a program that i can use to mount a ntfs partition?
[03:49] <Razor-X> nuller: hold on, I'm a gonna start up my browser
[03:49] <Razor-X> sexualpotatoes: ``mount'' does the trick fine
[03:49] <fuel> does xterm support transparent bg's?
[03:49] <eugman> sexualpotatoes. I know of none but you can edit fstab to auto mount the partition
[03:49] <imexius> razor-x: my glxgears what does segfaults mean exactly?
[03:49] <anto9us> sexualpotatoes, mount will do it but readonly
[03:49] <danno> brenner: thank you for recommending #linuxhelp earlier, one person was very kind enough to solve the floppy issue for me thank you !
[03:50] <Razor-X> imexius: I type in ``glxgears'', it returns ``zsh: segmentation fault glxgears''
[03:50] <Knowerrors> anto9us: whats the symbold for new paragraph?
[03:50] <brenner> danno: you're welcome
[03:50] <nuller> Razor-X, you don't have to look for me now that I've been made aware
[03:50] <eli> hello everyone, anyone know how to make fglrx change the screen size? i have a problem that the driver assumes a 1200x768
[03:50] <GKJ> Razor & brenner: Back
[03:50] <Razor-X> nuller: it's IRC habit
[03:50] <sexualpotatoes> anto9us just type mount in terminal?
[03:50] <brenner> danno: out of interest, what was the fix?
[03:51] <anto9us> Knowerrors, I think it's in openoffice.org helpfile
[03:51] <oceandead> doesnt iTunes run in crossover office?
[03:51] <philippe_> hey...
[03:51] <Razor-X> sexualpotatoes: ``sudo mount /dev/path/to/hdd /mnt/existing/mount/point'' where /dev/path/to/hdd is the path to your HDD, and /mnt/existing/mount/point is an existing mount point :P
[03:51] <oceandead> dunno bout wine
[03:51] <imexius> razor-x: thats really weird, what graphics card are you using?
[03:51] <philippe_> anybody want to help me out with some fun wifi pcmcia card issues?
[03:51] <Remillard> \topic
[03:51] <oneseventeen> Is there a way to mount my apple's hard drive so I can view/print files from it?
[03:51] <oneseventeen> (I'm in an Ubuntu Live CD session on an iBook)
[03:51] <yigal> how can a usbdisk be renamed?  The device is just called "991.5 MB Removable Volume" when it automounts on my breezy.  I want to give it a name like "yigal's usb disk" etc.
[03:52] <imexius> where is fstab in buntu?
[03:52] <oceandead> /etc/fstab
[03:52] <yigal> yes
[03:52] <Razor-X> nuller: try out ``banshee''
[03:52] <sexualpotatoes> Razor-X I am confused
[03:52] <Razor-X> imexius: a shitty Nvidia TNT2 RIVA Pro 64
[03:52] <eugman> yigal  open fstab
[03:52] <Razor-X> sexualpotatoes: ah, you know what mount points and stuff are?
[03:52] <yigal> ok
[03:53] <varsendagger> imexius, same old place
[03:53] <nuller> it seems that I can't even play .aac
[03:53] <sexualpotatoes> Razor-X i am a noob
[03:53] <Razor-X> imexius: it worked in Hoary, Breezy seems to have broken this
[03:53] <fuel> intel's in macs?
[03:53] <anto9us> sexualpotatoes, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountNTFSonBoot?highlight=ntfs
[03:53] <danno> brenner: switching <type> in /etc/fstab from auto to vfat
[03:53] <philippe_> I will love you forever if you help me get my wifi working
[03:53] <eugman> it probably has your usb listed there. does it?
[03:53] <pestilence> i just bought a new stick of memory for my computer, ran memtest86 on it, and it gets errors on test 5.
[03:53] <imexius> razor-x: have you considered upgrading your graphics card :P
[03:53] <brenner> danno: simple enough :-) anyway, gald you fixed it
[03:53] <nuller> Razor-X,   It's not that I need a music manager.  I want to buy music
[03:53] <pestilence> so i put in the old memory in the same spot, and it gets errors on test 5 too
[03:53] <anto9us> pestilence, take it back and ask for a replacement
[03:54] <sexualpotatoes> thnaks
[03:54] <mint> is apt-get already installed ?
[03:54] <imexius> in the options section in fstab do i have to put -o umask=000 or can i just put umask=000 ?
[03:54] <pestilence> neither get errors on the first slot
[03:54] <mint> like built in
[03:54] <oneseventeen> can you mount other partitions and use Ubuntu Live CD as a system repair CD (like knoppix)?
[03:54] <Remillard> anto9us: ifup/down didn't seem to help things... I cut and pasted a bunch of commands while I was there into a file... it's on pastebin now: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7502
[03:54] <danno> brenner: i'm very glad too my grandparents are grateful, and i have you to thank for your recommendation of channels for help!
[03:54] <nuller> Banshee looks nicer than Amarok :)
[03:54] <pestilence> anto9us, i don't think it's the memory.  i think it's the slot on my motherboard
[03:54] <NNY> anto9us: im sending you a PM
[03:54] <Razor-X> sexualpotatoes: the theory behind mount is this, the physical interface to the device resides in /dev/, for example, my Windows NTFS partition is /dev/hda1, yours is different (/dev/hda2 maybe?), mount takes the files from the physical interface and then puts them into a directory on your HDD. The directory I mount it to is /mnt/windows. In order to make sure the mountpoint exists, I simply did ``sudo mkdir /mnt/windows'', becau
[03:54] <Razor-X> se /mnt/windows is my mountpoint
[03:54] <brenner> danno: heh.  no worriesd
[03:54] <GKJ> standby again
[03:54] <Razor-X> imexius: ah, that comes later
[03:54] <anto9us> pestilence, have you checked the pins? cleaned the slot?
[03:54] <Razor-X> just got a grand-spakin' new monitor today
[03:54] <imexius> does anyone know?
[03:54] <Remillard> I don't see the fellow with the 'd' name still here
[03:55] <pestilence> anto9us, i vacuumed it with my vacuum, but that's about all i have.
[03:55] <philippe_> i have a netgear and a belkin pcmcia wifi cards, and neither of them works.
[03:55] <imexius> in the options section in fstab do i have to put -o umask=000 or can i just put umask=000 ?
[03:55] <pestilence> anto9us, what's the best way to clean the slots
[03:55] <_tcc> How do i set up SSH?
[03:55] <_tcc> On a terminal server?
[03:55] <_tcc> With base install.
[03:55] <johndarkhorse> _tcc: install the 'ssh' package
[03:55] <Razor-X> imexius: after you have it mounted, try a ``cat /etc/mtab'' and copy the line that deals with your HDD straight into fstab
[03:55] <mint> root@MINTx:/# sudo apt-get install gnome-art
[03:55] <mint> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[03:55] <mint> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[03:55] <_tcc> Its installed.
[03:55] <brenner> Remillard: dabaR has left, if that's who you mean
[03:55] <mint> help please
[03:55] <Razor-X> imexius: I find it the easiest way to work
[03:55] <Razor-X> philippe_: have you tried ndiswrapper?
[03:55] <johndarkhorse> mint: please do not paste in here
[03:55] <mint> oh.. sorry bout that
[03:55] <brenner> mint: do you have synaptic open?
[03:55] <philippe_> yes, i have.
[03:55] <Azunai> ok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?
[03:55] <_tcc> johndarkhorse, its on.
[03:55] <pestilence> anto9us, i don't think it's the pins on the card, but it certainly could be the ones on the motherboard
[03:56] <Remillard> brenner: yep... that was the name... think he was the one who suggested putting ifconfig into pastebin
[03:56] <johndarkhorse> _tcc: then it is running
[03:56] <brenner> mint: or any other apt-tool?
[03:56] <oneseventeen> _tcc to install the server, so you can ssh into it, you should be able to "apt-get install openssh-server"
[03:56] <imexius> im just going to pull it right out of fstab then
[03:56] <mint> synaptic
[03:56] <MrProper_> where do change what firefox uses to open embedded pdf files?
[03:56] <eugman> CHAOS!
[03:56] <anto9us> pestilence, yes, that's what I'm suggesting
[03:56] <Azunai> sorry the box says cannot find kernel headers
[03:56] <philippe_> razor-X: is that supposed to work to install any wifi drivers?
[03:56] <oneseventeen> (sorry just jumping into the middle of a conversation, I should read the previous messages first, I know)
[03:56] <pestilence> anto9us, what does one use to clean it?  it's pretty thin...
[03:56] <Remillard> this is just bizarre... the only thing I don't see on the ifconfig between the gentoo and ubuntu ifconfig is "RUNNING" (which is maybe something)...
[03:56] <philippe_> Netgear has a linux driver on its site, but I don't know how to install it.
[03:56] <yigal> um about usbdisk can anyone help with the name?
[03:56] <Razor-X> eugman: you get used to it after a while :P
[03:56] <NNY> anto9us: did you get my PM?
[03:56] <Remillard> not sure how/why that flag gets set
[03:57] <Azunai> ok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?
[03:57] <Azunai> ok i got a big problem as i cant reboot till ive fished the install heres the problem sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel a nice little box comes up saying it cannot find the kernal then it says i can get it by typing in prepare from the menu but it exits so what do you guys sugest i do?
[03:57] <brenner> mint: either close it, or use it to install gnome-art.  you can't use >1 apt tools at a time
[03:57] <Razor-X> Azunai: ok, please stop saying that
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: please dont repeat
[03:57] <mint> it says it "Couldnt find packlage gnome-art"
[03:57] <Azunai> i didnt mean to
[03:57] <anto9us> pestilence, a clean, lint free, cloth
[03:57] <Razor-X> Azunai: secondly, are you compiling this?
[03:57] <philippe_> I did the ndiswrapper thing but the driver didn't install pproperly either
[03:57] <imexius> Razor-x: so i cant just add umask=000 under options?
[03:57] <mint> brenner, isnt that technically supposed to download it for me
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mint about repos
[03:57] <pestilence> anto9us, how do you get it in the slot, though
[03:57] <johndarkhorse> mint: enable universe and multiverse repos
[03:57] <Razor-X> philippe_: are you using a dirver for W2K/WXP ?
[03:57] <brenner> ubotu: tell mint about universe
[03:57] <Azunai> i dont know what im doing razor-x im doing what https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 tells me to do
[03:58] <Razor-X> imexius: I never really read about fstab, I just copied the line straight from my mtab :)
[03:58] <Razor-X> Azunai: ah, heh
[03:58] <anto9us> pestilence, fold it around something thin
[03:58] <kevman> My Ubuntu installs hang at "configuring Network Interfaces" for a long time (10 minutes) if there's no network cable plugged in. Can I stop this?
[03:58] <imexius> razor-x: i just tested it, it works
[03:58] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell kevman about bum
[03:58] <brenner> mint: the command is right.  like johndarkhorse said, you have to enable the universe repo
[03:58] <Knowerrors> Is there an IRC for Openoffice?
[03:58] <philippe_> razor-x: if the linux driver is posted, is it still better to use the win2k driver?  I tried both, in any case.
[03:58] <Knowerrors> found it
[03:59] <mint> is that like the (universal dump of linux stuff)
[03:59] <Azunai> so Razor-X u any idea what i should do?
[03:59] <Razor-X> Azunai: did you install the kernel drivers?
[03:59] <philippe_> razor-x: is there a simple way to install any driver?
[03:59] <Razor-X> philippe_: ah, Linux drivers *are* best
[03:59] <anto9us> Remillard, do you have this on a dual boot machine?
[03:59] <Razor-X> philippe_: but remember, don't use the Linux dirvers in ndiswrapper
[03:59] <Azunai> ive done everything on that site up to the part were it says sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[03:59] <Razor-X> no, wireless isn't exactly the... easiest thing in Linux
[03:59] <yigal> eugman: it probably has your usb listed there. does it? Sorry my first time on irc, tried to connect to you personally but I guess I didn't.  No usb is not listed there.
[03:59] <NNY> anto9us: did you recieve my PM?
[03:59] <philippe_> razor-x: right... so what do I do once I get the driver?
[03:59] <anto9us> NNY, no
[04:00] <Azunai> on the using the ati drivers from the ati site
[04:00] <anto9us> NNY, and I don't want to
[04:00] <Remillard> anto9us: Yep.
[04:00] <Razor-X> Azunai: so, what does a ``dpkg -l | grep linux-header'' return?
[04:00] <ardchoille> NNY: you aren't idenitified to nickserv, so you can't pm someone who is id'd
[04:01] <NNY> anto9us: how do i go about getting id'd?
[04:01] <anto9us> Remillard, have you tried from a cold boot?
[04:01] <yigal> well i better id myself
[04:01] <Razor-X> philippe_: here's loosely how you do it (the included INSTALL or README file will say it better than I can), untar/gzip the source, compile the source, then modprobe the drivers
[04:01] <Azunai> Razor-X i copied and pasted ``dpkg -l | grep linux-header'' and nothing came up at all
[04:01] <anto9us> NNY, /msg nickserv help
[04:01] <yigal> later come back with my name
[04:01] <Razor-X> Azunai: ah, no wonder :)
[04:01] <philippe_> razor-x:  shit, that sounds complicated.
[04:01] <Remillard> anto9us: Nope... is there some reason why that would be preferred?... the other half of the dual-boot is coming up fine every time after restart
[04:01] <philippe_> how do I compile?  how do I modprobe?
[04:01] <Razor-X> Azunai: ``sudo aptitude install linux-headers-`uname -r` '' should do it
[04:01] <Azunai> Razor-X so should i apt-get fglrx-kernel?
[04:01] <Razor-X> philippe_: ah :)
[04:01] <Remillard> anto9us: I can try anything... just curious
[04:02] <philippe_> razor-x: and no, the help files don't help
[04:02] <Razor-X> philippe_: here's what you do, go to the site of the drivers, and get the source
[04:02] <Azunai> Razor-X with the ''?
[04:02] <Razor-X> unpack the source, open a terminal, and hit ``./configure''
[04:02] <Razor-X> Azunai: nope, those are my (and LaTeX's) right quotes
[04:02] <anto9us> Remillard, I've seen windows leave network cards in inoperable states, it's probably not an issue but worth dismissing anyway
[04:02] <Azunai> ah ok
[04:02] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell philippe_ about compile
[04:02] <Razor-X> Azunai: that's why it's set off
[04:02] <Remillard> anto9us: well it's not dual boot with windows
[04:02] <anto9us> Remillard, ok
[04:02] <Razor-X> johndarkhorse: oh, thanks, didn't know that was there
[04:03] <tonyyarusso> Wonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.
[04:03] <Remillard> anto9us: dual boot gentoo linux & ubuntu... decided to try ubuntu out hoping for easier international keyboard configuration :)
[04:03] <Azunai> Razor-x ok its installing something now :)
[04:03] <mint> I like ubuntu
[04:03] <Razor-X> Azunai: heh, cool, after this is done, continue with the guide as normal
[04:03] <mint> i can get used to this
[04:03] <anto9us> Remillard, are you on a gigabit switch?
[04:03] <Razor-X> Remillard: I use Dvorak, and it works for that
[04:03] <Azunai> Razor-X ok they should put that in the guide to be honest :)
[04:04] <Remillard> anto9us: doubt it... basic linksys wrt54t
[04:04] <Razor-X> Azunai: that's what it means by ``install Linux headers'' (they didn't do a very good job, though)
[04:04] <Razor-X> this monitor is.... beautiful
[04:04] <tonyyarusso> How can I make gdesklets start on login?
[04:04] <Razor-X> ... wish glx was working -_-
[04:05] <Azunai> Razor-X they should write a "noobs" guide to installing click here >>> ive spent since 9oclock last night trying to fix this and its now 03:04am
[04:05] <Knowerrors> anto9us: it didn't work :(
[04:05] <Razor-X> Azunai: hehe, yeah, I think I may add that in meself
[04:05] <Remillard> Razor-X: cool, and thanks... what I really need is japanese language support but if it swaps with dvorak easy it'll probably do me fine
[04:05] <Razor-X> Remillard: that works too :)
[04:05] <brenner> mint: 1st distro?
[04:05] <anto9us> Knowerrors, you need to use regexp pattern match
[04:05] <danno> ok now that the floppy loads after changing <type> auto -> to -> <type> vfat it doesn't let me write to it. What setting do I need to change in /etc/fstab for this? sounds like a permissions issue?
[04:05] <Knowerrors> Anto9us: Ive got a text document I pasted into OOo writer from an email, that make it one long skinny column down the left hand side... how do I reformat this quickly to take up the whole page left to right? its not really a column per se, its just left justified, with each line only going less than halfway across the screen
[04:06] <Azunai> Razor-X i been using linux since 9pm and so far its all cool apart from that driver thing i aint ever formating this machine again!
[04:06] <Razor-X> Remillard: although, it depends on what you do with that, I can use Japanese in most X apps, and emacs :)
[04:06] <Razor-X> Azunai: :)
[04:06] <cr1mson> What package is the Application Installer?  I removed a package and my Add Application from Applications panel disappeared.
[04:06] <dcode> is there a way to set a umask on an xfs filesystem?  for all files?
[04:06] <Azunai> right i need to reboot i hope to god this works brb :) hopefully "Gulp"
[04:06] <Razor-X> Azunai: good luck :)
[04:06] <Azunai> Razor-X thank you :)
[04:06] <Remillard> Razor-X: not sure yet... probably class materials and email... but I gotta get this bloody network card connecting first
[04:07] <Razor-X> Remillard: I myself use a setup with canna and kinput2
[04:07] <anto9us> Remillard, is it set for dhcp?
[04:07] <danno> this is weird, I've used plenty of Linux distributions and never had this floppy issue
[04:07] <Remillard> anto9us: no... i've tried that though and it doesn't succeed requesting a address
[04:07] <NNY> antous: well since i cant PM you please visit here http://xilace.no-ip.com:9000 its a webcam pointed at the ubuntu box... maybe this will help
[04:08] <cbryant> I have an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller which is preventing me from installing Ubuntu....the installer just crashes...any ideas on how I can make it work?
[04:08] <danno> why do I have to use sudo to write to a floppy?
[04:08] <cr1mson> Does anybody know what the Application Installer package is called?
[04:08] <anto9us> Remillard, the module doesn't seem to be communicating with the hardware then, you might try unloading and then reloading it
[04:08] <Aaron_Mason> danno, most likely it's mounted with root as the owner
[04:08] <Aaron_Mason> which means you need to be root to write to it
[04:09] <brenner> cr1mson: /usr/bin/gksudo /usr/bin/gnome-app-install
[04:09] <danno> Aaron_Mason: I can mount it as a user, how may I write to it as a user?
[04:09] <brenner> cr1mson: whoops. misread you, sorry
[04:09] <kevman> What is the package name for the stuff needed to compile?
[04:09] <Azunai> Razer-X: i think i love you :)
[04:09] <Aaron_Mason> i have a Canon CanoScan N340P and XSane won't pick it up - what do I need to download and/or do to get it to work?
[04:10] <Remillard> anto9us: ahh, yeah, will try that... just occurred to me that that IS one difference... on the gentoo side it's compiled into the kernel
[04:10] <cr1mson> brenner, I think I found it, thank you :)
[04:10] <brenner> build-essential
[04:10] <Xoritor> something keeps overwriting my resolv.conf file
[04:10] <Xoritor> what does that?
[04:10] <eli> anyone know now to reconfigure screen resolution to a widescreen setting when installing fglrx for ati?
[04:10] <Aaron_Mason> danno, try adding -o umask=(your umask here)
[04:10] <Xoritor> and how can i turn it off
[04:10] <cr1mson> brenner, yep, that's it
[04:10] <danno> Aaron_Mason: do you mean add -o umask=myusername?
[04:10] <kevman> Good.
[04:10] <danno> Aaron_Mason: add that to /etc/fstab?
[04:11] <Xoritor> chattr +i for now, but thats not the RIGHT solution
[04:11] <danno> Aaron_Mason: it says "user" should I change that to my username?
[04:11] <brenner> cr1mson: what was it called?
[04:11] <Aaron_Mason> no, to the mount command
[04:11] <Razor-X> Azunai: :P
[04:11] <Aaron_Mason> and not the username
[04:11] <Azunai> ok after 4 attempts and 2 reformats the X server has actualy loaded after installing a driver
[04:11] <Aaron_Mason> your user number
[04:11] <tyler_> greetings #ubuntu!
[04:11] <Razor-X> Azunai: all in a day's work, if only I could say the same about my own GLX :P
[04:11] <Aaron_Mason> type id to get your user ID
[04:11] <tyler_> can anyone answer a mounting problem?
[04:12] <Azunai> Razer-X lol ok now the big question how do i tell if it worked :) like check for 3d acceleration etc ?
[04:12] <Razor-X> tyler_: the only wrong question is to ask about asking :P
[04:12] <Aaron_Mason> so if your userid is 1000, then add -o umask=1000
[04:12] <eli> ?ati
[04:12] <Razor-X> Azunai: ``glxgears''
[04:12] <Azunai> from root or normal?
[04:12] <danno> Aaron_Mason: my user number?
[04:12] <Razor-X> it segfaults here, but back when I had it working, it would work fine
[04:12] <NNY> anto9us: are you still there?
[04:12] <Razor-X> Azunai: normal's fine
[04:12] <Aaron_Mason> danno: type id and the number after where it says 'uid=' is your user number
[04:12] <brenner> Aaron_Mason: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo doesn't specifically list your scanner, but has some useful info.  i'd hit the forum/and or google when it comes back up
[04:12] <tyler_> i'm trying to mount a hard drive, though i think it's corrupted
[04:12] <tyler_> sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/
[04:12] <tyler_> tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock
[04:12] <cr1mson> brenner, gnome-app-install
[04:13] <brenner> ah :)
[04:13] <Azunai> Razer-X: do i just leave it running?
[04:13] <danno> Aaron_Mason: where do I find the uid info
[04:13] <HwyXingFrog> HAS ANYONE TRIED TO INSTALL DIVX CODEC??
[04:13] <Aaron_Mason> type id at the terminal
[04:13] <brenner> cr1mson: i thought that was installed by default?
[04:13] <Remillard> alright, once more into the breach :)
[04:13] <tyler_> it doesn't show up on fdisk -l
[04:13] <Remillard> wish me luck
[04:13] <pestilence> anto9us, i ran one of my (dry) lcd cleaning cloths through the slot, and ran the test again.  it passed with the 256mb stick.  doing the 512mb stick right now *crosses fingers*
[04:13] <Razor-X> Azunai: no, quit it with a C-c (Control+C in UNIX speak)
[04:13] <anto9us> NNY, yes
[04:13] <Razor-X> Azunai: and by the way, you know about tab complete?
[04:13] <anto9us> pestilence, good luck
[04:13] <cr1mson> brenner, It was but I accidently removed it.
[04:13] <NNY> anto9us: please look at the message i sent you last with the URL....
[04:14] <cr1mson> brenner, when I removed FireFox
[04:14] <brenner> HwyXingFrog: no need to shout
[04:14] <tyler_> Hwy you need help with DIVX?
[04:14] <Azunai> Razer-X no ive been using linux for about 4 horus :) and ive had to reformat 2 times
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> sorry
[04:14] <brenner> ubotu: tell HwyXingFrog about divx
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> tyler: yes
[04:14] <Razor-X> Azunai: type in the first few letters of my name and hit TAB :)
[04:14] <danno> Aaron_Mason: where do I find user id #?
[04:14] <Azunai> Razer -X: ok Crtl +C isnt doing anything
[04:14] <Azunai> Razor-X, ok like this?
[04:14] <tyler_> Hwy in the ubuntuguide it has a section on codecs
[04:14] <Razor-X> Azunai: yeah :)
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> i am very new to ubuntu and i can't watch my videos
[04:14] <HwyXingFrog> ok
[04:14] <Azunai> Razor-X, thats cool :) thanks
[04:15] <Razor-X> Azunai: don't think I type in your name every time, you 'aint that special, meh
[04:15] <danno> in /etc/fstab do I need to change "user" to my username to have write access to floppy?
[04:15] <Aaron_Mason> danno, Open a terminal (Applications > Accessories > Terminal)
[04:15] <cr1mson> brenner, You wouldn't know the Help package too do you?  The red and white lifesaver?
[04:15] <Aaron_Mason> danno, then type id
[04:15] <Razor-X> Azunai: try hitting C-c again
[04:15] <Azunai> Razor-X, ok the ctrl +C isnt doing anything
[04:15] <anto9us> Knowerrors, openoffice should find carriage returns, you need to enable regular expressions in your search
[04:15] <Razor-X> Azunai: if not, then ``killall glxgears''
[04:15] <danno> Aaron_Mason: I see it now thank you!
[04:15] <Azunai> ah done
[04:15] <danno> Aaron_Mason: where do I add this to the line on floppy in etc/fstab?
[04:15] <yigal-epw> for codecs http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs
[04:15] <Azunai> Razor-X, but how do i know if it worked i just saw some wheels?
[04:15] <cr1mson> brenner, When I removed FireFox it removed about 4-5 packages, but I can't recall what they were.  Next time I'll write something like that down when I remove a package.
[04:16] <HwyXingFrog> thanks, I didn't see that
[04:16] <Xoritor> what is the dpkg command to see everything installed?
[04:16] <Razor-X> Azunai: that shows it works :P
[04:16] <brenner> cr1mson: yelp
[04:16] <anto9us> NNY, manually edit
[04:16] <brenner> cr1mson: yeah, i heard ff uninstall can be tricky
[04:16] <Razor-X> Azunai: on my non-working box, sometimes glxgears decides to segfault, other times it returns an error
[04:16] <Azunai> Razor-X, what so now i have 3d accelerations?
[04:16] <NNY> anto9us: ok
[04:16] <Razor-X> Azunai: yeahp, you're all set :)
[04:16] <Azunai> Razor-X, is there a way to get it to show the fps?
[04:16] <ubuntu_newbie> hola everyone....
[04:16] <danno> Aaron_Mason: under which section in floppy in /etc/fstab do I enter -o umask=(your umask here) ?
[04:16] <NNY> anto9us: it refreashs every second
[04:16] <tyler_> sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/
[04:16] <tyler_> tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock
[04:16] <brenner> Azunai: glxinfo | grep rendering
[04:16] <tyler_> anybody recognize this error?
[04:17] <anto9us> NNY, can you set it longer?
[04:17] <Aaron_Mason> ok, found a SANE driver for it
[04:17] <NNY> anto9us: sure 5 seconds?
[04:17] <cr1mson> brenner, I installed yelp, whats the command to reload my panel?
[04:17] <Aaron_Mason> danno, one sec
[04:17] <Razor-X> Azunai: take a look at the terminal when running glxgears, I think it should say ('s been a while since I've used it)
[04:17] <Azunai> brenner, it says direct rendering: no
[04:17] <anto9us> NNY, make it 10
[04:17] <brenner> ubuntu_newbie: welcome
[04:17] <danno> Aaron_Mason: okay
[04:17] <cr1mson> brenner, it's kill something
[04:17] <brenner> cr1mson: killall gnome-panel
[04:17] <cr1mson> brenner, yeah, that's it, hope it works
[04:17] <brenner> Azunai: then you /don't/ have 3d working
[04:17] <NNY> anto9us: done, thank you for your help btw ;)
[04:17] <Knowerrors> anto9us: I tried that in open office, enabling regular expressions, and searched for both \n and \r
[04:18] <Azunai> NOO!
[04:18] <yigal-epw> danno - the 4th section of fstab
[04:18] <Razor-X> oh, meh
[04:18] <Razor-X> haha, shows how much I know :P
[04:18] <brenner> Azunai: glxgears -printfps
[04:18] <cr1mson> brenner, thanks again, it worked
[04:18] <mint> THIS IS THE SHIT
[04:18] <Razor-X> brenner: can you help me getting my own glx setup working?
[04:18] <Aaron_Mason> danno, yeah, 4th section
[04:18] <mint> i like how i can just sleect gnome-art in synaptic
[04:18] <mint> and it just goes
[04:18] <brenner> or -showfps. i forget
[04:18] <mint> all dependecies
[04:18] <tyler_> anyone: what do i do with a bad superblock?
[04:18] <brenner> no, it's printfps :)
[04:19] <yigal-epw> danno its in the man or info cant remember of fstab
[04:19] <anto9us> Knowerrors, maybe you should be looking for spaces?
[04:19] <_jason> !glxgears
[04:19] <ubotu> methinks glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[04:19] <danno> Aaron_Mason: following user right? yeah I googled thank you ill try it
[04:19] <brenner> mint: yeah, awesome isn't it?
[04:19] <danno> yigal-epw: yeah google found it thanks
[04:19] <mint> yup
[04:19] <Azunai> brenner, 2019 frames in 5.3 seconds = 381.959 FPS
[04:19] <Azunai> 1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 376.605 FPS
[04:19] <Azunai> 1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 375.217 FPS
[04:19] <Azunai> 1920 frames in 5.1 seconds = 376.037 FPS
[04:19] <Azunai> 1920 frames in 5.2 seconds = 367.972 FPS
[04:19] <mint> i just gota get the commands down
[04:19] <mint> from terimnal
[04:19] <Azunai> brenner, does that tell you anything?
[04:19] <brenner> Azunai: what jason said. it's not a benchmark
[04:19] <Razor-X> Azunai: please don't paste in here
[04:19] <mint> and no restart or anything
[04:19] <tyler_> anyone: i also get this sudo mount -a -t vfat /dev/hdc1 /home/tyler/media/
[04:19] <Razor-X> !pastebin
[04:19] <tyler_> tyler_ tyler_ mount: /dev/hdc1: can't read superblock
[04:19] <ubotu> pastebin is probably a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[04:19] <Azunai> Razor-X, sorry :(
[04:19] <brenner> Azunai: the important thing was that glxinfo says you don't have DR enabled
[04:19] <anto9us> NNY, can these partitions be deleted?
[04:19] <Knowerrors> anto9us: when I enable nonprinting characters view, I see a bunch of backward P's , what are those?
[04:19] <tyler_> anyone: i also get this: fsck.ext2: Attempt to read block from filesystem resulted in short read while trying to open /dev/hdc1
[04:19] <tyler_> Could this be a zero-length partition?
[04:20] <Azunai> brenner, ok so how do i enable dr?
[04:20] <NNY> anto9us: yep, dont need anything on the drives
[04:20] <anto9us> Knowerrors, those are paragraph marks
[04:20] <yigal-epw> how to change generick usbdisk name from "991.5 MB Removable Volume" to something like "yigal's usbdisk"?
[04:20] <brenner> Azunai: i have an ati card
[04:20] <brenner> so i can't help you with nvidia issues
[04:20] <anto9us> NNY, delete them all
[04:20] <NNY> anto9us: right o
[04:20] <Azunai> brenner, mines an ATI X850XT PE :)
[04:20] <mcrofutt> Are the Ubuntu forums down?
[04:20] <brenner> Azunai: how'd you install the driver?
[04:21] <ubuntu_newbie> hey everyone - i have the king of all stupid questions.  i'm an absolute newbie to linux, but i'm a computer programmer by trade - but suddenly i feel like my dad trying to set the VCR.  So basic stuff i'm fumbling about with.  My issue right now is sharing a folder and connecting to it in XP.  I found the folder share ap, made the share, navigated to it in windows XP, and when i click on it it asks my user and password.  puttin
[04:21] <ubuntu_newbie> g just my ubuntu user and password puts a wrong domain in front automatically.  so my question is >>> what's my FULL username i should be putting in?  (please don't smite me!)
[04:21] <danno> Aaron_Mason: it still wont allow writing to it!
[04:21] <NNY> anto9us: done
[04:21] <fuel> use connect to server
[04:21] <danno> Aaron_Mason: do I need to remove "noauto" ?
[04:21] <Knowerrors> anto9us: so how do I replace those?  I can't find the regular expression for paragraph
[04:21] <Azunai> brenner, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 using the ati driver from the ati site?
[04:21] <brenner> ubuntu_newbie: why would we smite you? :)
[04:22] <cheater-conrad> apt-get --dist-upgrade broke my system, it will no longer boot, it juse dies and suddenly reboots, anyone have ideas?
[04:22] <regeya> just read the digg.com entry on firefox taking up a lot of memory, looked at my usage, thought, 'wow, that's a lot' and then noticed that it's being kinder than nautilus
[04:22] <ubuntu_newbie> ha oh dear the smite cometh
[04:22] <yigal-epw> hey anyone catch my usbdisk question?
[04:22] <fuel> ubuntu_newbie: use connect to server
[04:22] <anto9us> NNY, now create a new 100mb ext3 partition on first drive
[04:22] <regeya> nautilus is running right now to...wait for it...draw three icons on the desktop, and it's taking up 128MB
[04:22] <mcrofutt> Mine's doing that trying to install blackdown java!?!?
[04:22] <tyler_> ubuntu newbie: i think i can help
[04:22] <ubuntu_newbie> cheers
[04:22] <regeya> Firefox requires 112MB to render boingboing.net
[04:22] <regeya> Nautilus requires 128MB for three icons
[04:22] <tyler_> ubuntu newbie: in the ubuntuguide it talks about using guest@host for the name of the share
[04:23] <tyler_> ubuntu newbie: have you seen the guide?
[04:23] <regeya> OH THE HUMANITY :-P
[04:23] <danno> wow I google and my problem says (solved) in a thread title but too bad the ubuntu forums are DOWN so I can't read the solution !!!!
[04:23] <NNY> anto9us: primary or logical?
[04:23] <FunkyELF> what is that KDE theme that is supposed to look like OS X ?
[04:23] <ubuntu_newbie> uh
[04:23] <anto9us> NNY, primary
[04:23] <Azunai> brenner, u get that last bit mate?
[04:23] <regeya> FunkyELF, Baghira
[04:23] <cheater-conrad> No one knows why apt-get --dist-upgrade broke my system?
[04:23] <yigal-epw> I agree danno!!!
[04:23] <oceandead> danno have you tried google cache?
[04:23] <ubuntu_newbie> did i get the memo? about the TPS report?
[04:23] <tyler_> ubuntuguide.org
[04:23] <ubuntu_newbie> :)
[04:23] <yigal-epw> pisses me off
[04:23] <tyler_> haha
[04:23] <yigal-epw> ubuntuforums is good
[04:23] <brenner> Azunai: yes. reading now. :)
[04:23] <HwyXingFrog> i tried the command in ubuntu guide for divx4linux but it didn't work
[04:23] <oceandead> if it *is* cached
[04:23] <NNY> anto9us: does that look correct?
[04:23] <yigal-epw> but always down
[04:23] <ubuntu_newbie> just going there now tyler thanks
[04:24] <anto9us> NNY, that's fine
[04:24] <brenner> Azunai: so you followed steps 1,2,3?
[04:24] <tyler_> np
[04:24] <regeya> ubuntuguide is way out of date, HwyXingFrog, search for restricted formats on wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <tyler_> Hwy: what's the error?
[04:24] <misfit_toy>  if it's not cached just ask the Bush administration, they have it all available I'm sure
[04:24] <anto9us> NNY, sorry, it's mount point should be /boot
[04:24] <Azunai> brenner, yes up to the reboot
[04:24] <danno> one google result says: " I have experienced the same problem with Ubuntu from Hoary to Breezy, a simple thing like saving to floppy is a task for a sysadmin"
[04:24] <oceandead> hahaha
[04:24] <fuel> ubuntu_newbie: help option works also
[04:24] <FunkyELF> regeya, do the icons at the bottom get bigger and the cursor gets closer?
[04:24] <HwyXingFrog> couldn't find package
[04:24] <fuel> its a topic
[04:24] <NNY> anto9us: ok, done
[04:24] <HwyXingFrog> I will try the wiki.ubuntu.com
[04:24] <ubuntu_newbie> help option fuel?
[04:24] <regeya> FunkyELF, what are you referring to...
[04:24] <brenner> Azunai: so you haven't rebooted?
[04:24] <anto9us> NNY, set it's bootable flag to true
[04:24] <mcrofutt> Anyone else having trouble with blackdown java?
[04:25] <fuel> ubuntu_newbie: the lifesaver icon
[04:25] <yigal-epw> no blackdown has been good although out of date
[04:25] <tyler_> i hate blackdown.. i prefer 1.5 by all means
[04:25] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell mcrofutt about javadebs
[04:25] <regeya> FunkyELF, are you one of those oddballs who thinks that OS X is the coolest thing EVAR?
[04:25] <fuel> its like help in windows
[04:25] <Azunai> brenner, no i have rebooted and for the first time (after i made a alteration) x actualy loaded
[04:25] <anto9us> Knowerrors, did you look in the help file?
[04:25] <ubuntu_newbie> i mean i can navigate to the shared folder in XP in the net neighborhood.  it asks user and pass and i've tried every combo of machinename\adminuser but grr no workie
[04:25] <NNY> anto9us: k, done
[04:25] <funkyMiNT> how do i get back to the desktop from a (ctrl-alt-del)
[04:25] <FunkyELF> regeya, no... I just can't tell if that feature is there from the screen shots
[04:25] <funkyMiNT> ctrl-atl-backspsace)
[04:25] <funkyMiNT> now im just at the terminal screen
[04:25] <Azunai> brenner, not done anything after the reboot
[04:25] <anto9us> NNY, ok
[04:25] <brenner> Azunai: did you specify the fglrx driver in your xorg.conf file?
[04:26] <mcrofutt> I'm using Synaptic to install and it keeps crashing my system
[04:26] <Azunai> brenner, no
[04:26] <regeya> FunkyELF, I seem to recall that there's a proggy for KDE called KXDocker or something like that that's a good approximation of the Dock
[04:26] <FunkyELF> regeya, I actually like a really slim WM.  I use XFCE, or EvilWM
[04:26] <misfit_toy> ubuntu_newbie, make sure you have a user/pass on the XP box that matches your Ubuntu id.
[04:26] <ubuntu_newbie> oh yeah i did go to this guide
[04:26] <brenner> Azunai: do so.  do you know how?
[04:26] <Azunai> brenner, erm no.... lol
[04:26] <ubuntu_newbie> oh right
[04:26] <xbox_sky> whick deb should you get in order to pull down w32codecs?
[04:26] <ubuntu_newbie> thanks misfit
[04:26] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell xbox_sky about w32codecs
[04:26] <brenner> Azunai: sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:26] <anto9us> NNY, select Done setting up the partition
[04:26] <philippe_> so I'm trying to compile my driver, but my window doesn't recognize the command "make"
[04:27] <Azunai> brenner, would i be right in asuming /etc/X11/xorg.conf and editing the driver from ati to gflrx
[04:27] <pestilence> anto9us, passed.  sweet!
[04:27] <oceandead> anyone know how good/accurate the unofficial 5.10 starter guide that is here http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu is?
[04:27] <yigal-epw> hey theres a command in terminal that grabs all the codecs does anyone know what it is
[04:27] <regeya> I didn't like Baghira *or* KXDocker though...not nearly as stylish as the real thing, and really OS X isn't as processor-intensive as either of 'em
[04:27] <philippe_> Even sudo make doesn't work
[04:27] <tonyyarusso> Wonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.  Any idea what the issue is?
[04:27] <brenner> Azunai: exactly
[04:27] <xbox_sky> Thank you johndarkhorse :)
[04:27] <philippe_> is that normal?
[04:27] <tyler_> yigal: google automatix
[04:27] <philippe_> what's the compile command?
[04:27] <oceandead> seems pretty good to me but im no guru
[04:27] <yigal-epw> sweet, yes
[04:27] <yigal-epw> very nice
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> philippe_: install build-essential
[04:27] <johndarkhorse> !automatix
[04:27] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[04:27] <regeya> someone fix DnD in WMaker
[04:27] <Azunai> brenner, only i use nano :)
[04:27] <funkyMiNT> how do i get back to the desktop from after Ctrl-Alt-Backspace?
[04:27] <tyler_> oh! forums are down.. :/
[04:27] <Xoritor> what is the cli utility to enable and disable staring of services?
[04:27] <tyler_> it works for me :p
[04:27] <brenner> Azunai: then go crazy with nano. :)
[04:28] <regeya> aww...someone feels the need to trash arnieboy's work...
[04:28] <codeyman> Ne 1 had experience with flubox??
[04:28] <regeya> fluxbox you mean?
[04:28] <yigal-epw> ah well there is again as I have said http://help.ubuntu.com/starterguide/C/faqguide-all.html#codecs
[04:28] <tyler_> not i but my friend, if ye is desperate
[04:28] <yigal-epw> this works at least
[04:28] <anto9us> pestilence, just remember, you can't get anything clean without getting something dirty :)
[04:28] <Azunai> brenner, i prefer this gedit now :)
[04:28] <codeyman> OSx look for ubuntu
[04:28] <brenner> Azunai: or just do this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ScanningHowTo
[04:28] <brenner> whoops
[04:28] <codeyman> its called flubox
[04:28] <NNY> anto9us: ok, done
[04:28] <yigal-epw> why not ubuntu look for OSX
[04:28] <brenner> Azunai: this: sudo sed -e 's/"ati"/"fglrx"/' -i /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[04:28] <anto9us> NNY, how much ram do you have?
[04:29] <Azunai> brenner, what do i change it to?
[04:29] <brenner> and bypass an editor entirely
[04:29] <varsendagger> fluxbox is great
[04:29] <brenner> Azunai: fglrx
[04:29] <codeyman> i dont have OSx
[04:29] <tyler_> automatix: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:iUFVOu-C3-QJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D66563+automatix&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&strip=1
[04:29] <varsendagger> enlightnement is good too both in different ways
[04:29] <codeyman> so no ubuntu look there
[04:29] <tonyyarusso> With regard to my question (up a page), I'm using fglrx from ati.com.  Could this be an issue?  How could I switch back to the repos one to test?
[04:30] <Azunai> brenner, ok i edited the driver "ati" to driver "fglrx"
[04:30] <codeyman> is there a good way to install firefox 1.5 on breezy??
[04:30] <Azunai> brenner, is that all i do?
[04:30] <tyler_> enlightenment's menus are buggy
[04:30] <brenner> Azunai: yep
[04:30] <codeyman> i did RTFM
[04:30] <NNY> anto9us: atm there is 1gb... there will be 2.5gb
[04:30] <tyler_> e17 looks nice but the performance is minimal
[04:30] <Azunai> brenner, now reboot x or reboot machine?
[04:30] <brenner> Azunai: i think X will do
[04:30] <Aaron_Mason> argh
[04:30] <brenner> Azunai: if not, reboot :)
[04:30] <tyler_> i reccommend kde or gnome over e17, until it goes stable
[04:30] <Aaron_Mason> why can't I write to my existing hard drive with ntfs?
[04:30] <yigal-epw> ya i would like to know about firefox 1.5 if its an easy install
[04:30] <Azunai> brenner, ok il should be right back if not then x didnt load :(
[04:30] <Steil> Anyone know of a program that would record bandwidth statistics? (e.g. total downloads/uploads)
[04:31] <Azunai> brenner, c u in a min :)
[04:31] <tyler_> mozilla-firefox, should be updated
[04:31] <brenner> Azunai: good luck
[04:31] <johndarkhorse> Aaron_Mason: because the operation may destroy your ntfs partition
[04:31] <regeya> tyler_, heh, it's the 'until it goes stable' part that sends me into giggly hysterics
[04:31] <codeyman> yup
[04:31] <anto9us> NNY, create a 900MB swap on the first drive and a 1GB swap on the second
[04:31] <yigal-epw> firefox works at 1.0 but ya it should be updated
[04:31] <regeya> what's it been, 7 years now?
[04:31] <codeyman> i did all the dpkg-divert
[04:31] <kicker> as I install in the bar of preferences {mouse themes} ?
[04:31] <codeyman> but still lots of thing break
[04:31] <tyler_> one can dream, regeya
[04:31] <yigal-epw> geese why worry about eye-candy
[04:31] <regeya> heh tyler_ I used to root for enlightenment.
[04:31] <danno> how can I write to my floppy
[04:32] <danno> it wont let me write to my floppy unless I use sudo
[04:32] <kicker> as I install in the bar of preferences {mouse themes}
[04:32] <tyler_> me too, until i had 5 terminals open, all the time..
[04:32] <regeya> tyler_!
[04:32] <regeya> that's alotta terminals
[04:32] <yigal-epw> do you mean tabs or terminals
[04:33] <anto9us> NNY, get your skates on, it's passed my bedtime
[04:33] <tyler_> yeah.. borderless and resized.. but it was too much
[04:33] <yigal-epw> hey anyone know of a safe way to have transparent terminals ?
[04:33] <toma__> is an ATI 3D Rage Pro a radeon card?
[04:33] <danno> how can I write to a floppy as a user it wont let me unless I use sudo and my grandparents cant do that
[04:33] <tyler_> singlet terminals, but they were slotted into my desktop so i didnt have to move them
[04:33] <regeya> would use one on os x, too, except that iTerm bounces its icon when anything changes in any of its tabs...annoying...
[04:34] <ubuntu_newbie> grrr
[04:34] <ubuntu_newbie> that no workie.
[04:34] <tyler_> ubuntu newbie whats up
[04:34] <brenner> what's more efficient? tabbed terminal? or one terminal running screen?
[04:34] <Aaron_Mason> johndarkhorse, cheers
[04:34] <tyler_> automatix?
[04:34] <Knowerrors> anto9us: yeah, they had one thing about Removing Line Breaks, didn't help
[04:34] <NNY> anto9us: working on the 900mb swap... what do i choose for the mount point?
[04:34] <yigal-epw> tabs because there easier to manage - i think
[04:34] <ubuntu_newbie> ah, still having fun making the XP log into the shared folder
[04:34] <ubuntu_newbie> it's so elementry i can taste it
[04:34] <johndarkhorse> tyler_: preface the nick of the person you are talking to please onto your sentences
[04:34] <anto9us> NNY, you don't if it's swap it's automatic
[04:35] <tyler_> johndarkhorse: thanks, i'm kinda new to irc
[04:35] <anto9us> NNY, you didn't select the partition type as swap
[04:35] <yigal-epw> no one know how to make safe transparent terminal- it would be so nice eye-candy and easy to read documents bellow the term.
[04:35] <yigal-epw> ah one day
[04:35] <NNY> anto9us: there we go... is that correct?
[04:35] <tyler_> i think you can make them transparent in gnome..
[04:36] <anto9us> NNY, yes, done
[04:36] <yigal-epw> yes but you see the desktop
[04:36] <tyler_> yigal: i think ive seen that
[04:36] <TheCut> think he means to see other docs
[04:36] <yigal-epw> not the document bellow
[04:36] <danno> can someone load this page because it wont load for me and I really need to read it now: ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-95950.html+floppy+write+ubuntu+-usb&hl=en
[04:36] <brenner> yigal-epw: gt only does fake transparency iirc
[04:36] <tyler_> ubuntuforms are down, use google's cached pages
[04:36] <TheCut> think someone said the forums no work?
[04:36] <yigal-epw> theres a howto in ubuntuforums but it uses something that tells you it will crash eventually which doesn't turn me on
[04:36] <danno> tyler_: I tried but the google cache for ubuntuforums does not load =(
[04:37] <NNY> anto9us: ok, that look right?
[04:37] <oceandead> danno, did you wait? it will take a while but the text *should* load
[04:37] <yigal-epw> did ubuntuforums give any warning about being down?
[04:37] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?
[04:37] <tyler_> danno: http://64.233.187.104/search?q=cache:GMC5tbOcrIsJ:ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php%3Ft%3D269+floppy+write+ubuntu+usb&hl=en&lr=&client=firefox&strip=1
[04:38] <ubuntu_newbie> tyler_ or anyone: so what is the proper nomenclature for a username logging onto a shared folder from XP machine to Ubuntu?
[04:38] <tyler_> danno i hope that helps
[04:38] <danno> oceandead: yes I've been waiting 20 minutes =(
[04:38] <_jason> danno: click 'text only' at the top
[04:38] <anto9us> NNY, yes, now add a partition of type Linux Raid to both drives, using all available space
[04:38] <oceandead> doh!
[04:38] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?
[04:38] <yigal-epw> nomenclature what do you mean
[04:38] <jbzz> danno:  The permissions for the mounted floppy appear to allow only root to mount.
[04:38] <johndarkhorse> you folks use a tinyurl for those things, please tyler_
[04:38] <yigal-epw> like a SWAP partitoin
[04:38] <tyler_> johndarkhorse: soz
[04:38] <ubuntu_newbie> yigal: like the full name  eg domain\user or machinename\user or what?
[04:39] <jbzz> danno:  I mean allow only root to 'write'
[04:39] <yigal-epw> oh what ever you mounted it as
[04:39] <danno> jbzz: thanks how can I change the permissions for the mounted floppy so I can have a user write to it like a normal linux distribution does?
[04:39] <yigal-epw> that is the partition then just cde
[04:39] <yigal-epw> cd
[04:39] <NNY> anto9us: "physical volume for raid"?
[04:39] <yigal-epw> to it
[04:39] <danno> i think it's because of the sudo thing that it's not working right
[04:39] <yigal-epw> ? like /windows/ for me
[04:39] <anto9us> NNY, yes
[04:39] <yigal-epw> then cd /windows thats it?
[04:40] <danno> tyler_: thanks but it came up with a blank google cache page
[04:40] <jbzz> danno:  I have not been fooling with the floppy but I can look into it.  I normally make my own mount point and set my own permissions for the floppy.
[04:40] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?
[04:40] <ubuntu_newbie> yigal : yeah i'm just trying to browse a folder shared in UBUNTU but from a winxp machine.  when i click the folder it asks my username and pass.... can't seem to make it understand
[04:40] <tyler_> ubuntu newbie: http://tinyurl.com/593ze
[04:40] <danno> jbzz: I would be forever appreciative if you could help me solve this
[04:40] <ubuntu_newbie> tyler_ thanks checking that out
[04:40] <yigal-epw> oh sorry never tried it from that side
[04:41] <jbzz> danno:  I will nose around for a few minutes and get back to you.
[04:41] <danno> jbzz: my grandparents have perched on my back and are jeering me with "WELL IT WORKS IN WINDOWS!"
[04:41] <NNY> anto9us: ok, that look all good?
[04:41] <danno> jbzz: thank you I will gladly wait. =)
[04:41] <tyler_> danoo: try this http://tinyurl.com/7novm
[04:41] <anto9us> NNY, now configure software raid, you want speed or data integrity?
[04:41] <NNY> anto9us: raid 0... speed
[04:42] <anto9us> NNY, go for it
[04:42] <Azunai> brenner, well that was a screw up again lol but at least i learnt how to get X server to load backup
[04:42] <NNY> anto9us: hit yes?
[04:42] <anto9us> NNY, yes
[04:42] <brenner> Azunai: so it borked on you?
[04:42] <NNY> anto9us: ok, done
[04:42] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why my computer freezes when Im starting limewire?
[04:43] <Azunai> brenner, if i change the xorg.conf from "ati" x server just doesnt load :(
[04:43] <anto9us> NNY, create MD
[04:43] <yigal-epw> sorry phiber_optic it seems that none of us do
[04:43] <fenterbug> Are the web forums down for maintenance or something? I time out when trying to get to http://www.ubuntuforums.org/
[04:43] <Azunai> brenner,  is that because my graphics card is too new and linux doesnt support it?
[04:43] <brenner> Azunai: then my guess is something has gone wrong with the driver install
[04:43] <phiber_optic> :(
[04:43] <yigal-epw> ya damn web forums
[04:43] <yigal-epw> they are so good when theyre up
[04:43] <Aaron_Mason> damnit, I can't get my scanner working with ubuntu... it needs libieee1284 and the damn thing won't compile
[04:44] <gnudreamer> in my lshw output my tv capture card reads as *unclaimed
[04:44] <anto9us> NNY, add both partitions to it
[04:44] <Azunai> brenner, ok what does ur expertise suggest?
[04:44] <brenner> Azunai: the ati.com driver /should/ support it
[04:44] <anto9us> NNY, use space bar to select them
[04:44] <NNY> anto9us: finish?
[04:44] <anto9us> NNY, yes
[04:44] <Azunai> brenner, i downloaded the 32mb driver from http://www,ati.com
[04:44] <fenterbug> so bad web forums is... not uncommon. I'm guessing that no one can say when they'll be up again?
[04:44] <brenner> Azunai: the run file right?
[04:45] <yigal-epw> fenterbug - i wish i knew
[04:45] <yigal-epw> then again when they're up who knows how long for
[04:45] <fenterbug> tks, yigal-epw... I'll check back in a day or two.
[04:45] <Azunai> brenner, the big 32mb one at the top above the "X" versions?
[04:45] <NNY> anto9us: k
[04:45] <anto9us> NNY, you need to set the mount point for the raid to be /
[04:45] <MCskill-it> fenterbug: yigal-epw , any idea of what happened to the forums?
[04:46] <brenner> Azunai: one sec (i'm on dialup)
[04:46] <yigal-epw> man i wish i did
[04:46] <NNY> anto9us: how do i do that?
[04:46] <Azunai> brenner, the ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run
[04:46] <anto9us> NNY, sorry, select the partition beneath the raid and add ext3 partition to it
[04:46] <yigal-epw> MCskill-it do you know if they have public messages saying when they plan to be down?
[04:46] <Witigonen> Hey all... I just migrated from Fedora and kept my home directory the same.  Now, of course, I can't log in to Gnome - my sessions lasts less than 5 seconds and it throws me back to GDM.  How can I remedy this?
[04:46] <Azunai> brenner, Dialup man :( im on 10MB :P
[04:47] <brenner> Azunai: yeah, that's the one
[04:47] <Witigonen> Also, my virtual terminals aren't showing about five lines.. they're cut off at the bottom.  Dell Inspiron 1000.
[04:47] <NNY> anto9us: that one there?
[04:47] <Aaron_Mason> does anybody know where the lib would be in the package manager?
[04:47] <anto9us> NNY, select the 162GB line
[04:47] <yigal-epw> sorry Witgonen sounds pretty bad
[04:47] <Azunai> brenner, then i dont understand why it didnt work :S my card must be supported otherwise Xserver wouldnt load on ubuntu install would it?
[04:47] <phiber_optic> how do i uninstall limewire?
[04:48] <Aaron_Mason> nm, found it
[04:48] <yigal-epw> how did you get phiber_optic
[04:48] <Aaron_Mason> search is your friend
[04:48] <yigal-epw> apt-get synaptic?
[04:48] <phiber_optic> downloaded from the page and installed
[04:48] <brenner> Azunai: right.  do you have the fglrx module loaded?
[04:48] <yigal-epw> could be a problem
[04:48] <phiber_optic> nopp
[04:48] <Azunai> brenner, how do i check?
[04:48] <phiber_optic> there isnt in apt-get
[04:48] <anto9us> NNY, select uses as /
[04:49] <brenner> Azunai: lsmod | grep fglrx
[04:49] <yigal-epw> limewire sounds more like a lemon - bad jk sorry
[04:49] <MCskill-it> the new ati driver now supports openGL 2.0, I wonder what applications use this?
[04:49] <Aaron_Mason> could someone make it clear that when looking for a package in the SPM, Search is your friend?
[04:49] <jbzz> danno:  I am going to experimant on my floppy drive for a few minutes.
[04:49] <Witigonen> Is there a command line way to switch what desktop you're using in Ubuntu akin to Fedora's 'switchdesk'?
[04:49] <danno> jbzz: thanks, I look forward to your findings!! =)
[04:49] <phiber_optic> how do I delete something from my applications -> internet folder?
[04:49] <MCskill-it> Witigonen: I noticed that dapper does
[04:49] <Azunai> brenner, didnt say anything just droped a line
[04:50] <NNY> anto9us: confused
[04:50] <brenner> Azunai: aha
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> With regard to my question (up a page), I'm using fglrx from ati.com.  Could this be an issue?  How could I switch back to the repos one to test?
[04:50] <metalsand> How do I run commands while using nano?
[04:50] <anto9us> NNY, ext3
[04:50] <brenner> Azunai: echo fglrx | sudo tee -a /etc/modules
[04:50] <SEJeff> phiber_optic, Are you using breezy?
[04:50] <yigal-epw> application menu editor
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Wonderful.  Something else is broken.  Applications > System > New Login works okay initially (although it looks very different, and I never figured out why), but if I try to switch between the two displays then, it locks up and I can do nothing but hit the power button.  Any idea what the issue is?
[04:50] <Azunai> brenner, sounds like ur on to something :)
[04:50] <phiber_optic> yes
[04:50] <Witigonen> MCskill-it: but not Breezy?  Darn.
[04:50] <tonyyarusso> Sorry, those should be reversed.
[04:50] <yigal-epw> in applications->system tools phiber
[04:50] <Azunai> brenner, says fglrx
[04:50] <metalsand> How do I run commands while using nano? Like save, exit, ect
[04:50] <slavik> ubuntu drake will come with gnome 2.14?
[04:50] <brenner> Azunai: means it's loaded. now restart
[04:51] <brenner> Azunai: after you change back to fglrx of course
[04:51] <slavik> also, if I need to su to root, what is the default root password?
[04:51] <anto9us> NNY, mount point /
[04:51] <Azunai> brenner, should i not change the xorg.conf?
[04:51] <MCskill-it> Witigonen: :( yah not in breezy that I know of, but only  a little over 2 months till dapper duck
[04:51] <brenner> Azunai: yes, back to fglrx
[04:51] <Witigonen> metalsand: ctrl-what it says at the bottom.
[04:51] <Azunai> brenner, lol u may be on dialiup but u shure can type :)
[04:51] <anto9us> NNY, all done
[04:51] <Aaron_Mason> DAMNIT... it still won't pick it up
[04:51] <brenner> Azunai: the wiki has "When you install from ati.com drivers or the breezy-seveas repository, you still need to change xorg.conf per the instructions above." right below the 1,2,3 steps
[04:51] <brenner> Azunai: they should have put that in bold or something
[04:51] <darkraider> does ubuntu support ndiswrapper
[04:52] <Witigonen> darkraider: yes.
[04:52] <NNY> anto9us: yes?
[04:52] <metalsand> Witigonen: Thanks
[04:52] <slavik> darkraider: it comes 'preinstalled'
[04:52] <MCskill-it> darkraider: yes, just apt-get install ndiswrapper-utils
[04:52] <brenner> Azunai: basically, you aren't loading the module, which the steps at the start of the page go through
[04:52] <anto9us> NNY, did it say the mount point was / on the raid, I can't read the blue
[04:52] <Azunai> brenner, so if there installed why arnt they loading?
[04:52] <slavik> there is even an ndiswrapper configure utility that comes with ubuntu, right?
[04:52] <Aaron_Mason> damnit damnit damnit
[04:52] <Azunai> brenner, ok i should reboot now right?
[04:52] <brenner> Azunai: because you didn't tell it to load at bootup
[04:52] <brenner> Azunai: if you've done the 2 steps yes
[04:52] <anto9us> NNY, go ahead anyway
[04:53] <Aaron_Mason> now it can't open the parallel port
[04:53] <Azunai> brenner, man i miss windows simplicity but linux is so much cooler :)
[04:53] <Azunai> brenner, wish me luck man
[04:53] <NNY> anto9us: does that look right?
[04:53] <MCskill-it> slavik: I have used the utility but it's easier to just to do it from command line
[04:53] <brenner> Azunai: good luck :)
[04:53] <Azunai> brenner, thanks lol c u in a sec hopefully
[04:53] <Aaron_Mason> ah
[04:53] <Aaron_Mason> if I sudo it, it works
[04:53] <anto9us> NNY, it should say / next to the ext3 on the raid
[04:53] <slavik> MCskill-it: will keep that in mind
[04:54] <NNY> anto9us: like that?
[04:54] <anto9us> NNY, that's it, done
[04:54] <yigal-epw> anyone know how to tweak laptop with winmodem so that it runs as well as windows?
[04:54] <MCskill-it> slavik: all you have to do it    sudo ndiswrapper -i /path to inf file/file.inf
[04:54] <anto9us> NNY, yes
[04:54] <yigal-epw> using sl-modem-daemon/source
[04:54] <anto9us> NNY, that should now install ok
[04:55] <hyphenated> does anyone here use ifplugd on their ubuntu installation?
[04:55] <Aaron_Mason> w00t, I can scan!
[04:55] <bimberi> ubotu tell yigal-epw about smartlink
[04:55] <yigal-epw> i use wvdial stupid mode =0 and check carrier =no but it doesn't stay connected like xp
[04:55] <Aaron_Mason> w00t!
[04:56] <Aaron_Mason> thanks all
[04:56] <slavik> MCskill-it: but the inf file has to be proper
[04:56] <NNY> anto9us: awesome! thank you so much
[04:56] <anto9us> I'm off to bed now, good luck NNY and remember to make backups of your important data
[04:57] <brenner> yigal-epw: so it's cutting off?  do you get any erros in the log?
[04:57] <anto9us> NNY, some people would swear at me advising you on raid 0 ;)
[04:57] <slavik> MCskill-it: is 64bit driver support good enough to try?
[04:57] <anto9us> NNY, don't worry, it's no less reliable than having one drive, I use raid 0
[04:57] <NNY> anto9us: yeah... this is going to be replacing our game/web/mysql server in a colo....
[04:58] <anto9us> NNY, I swear by zope and postgresql
[04:58] <NNY> anto9us: i can always put in a IDE drive and have it back everything up from the raid
[04:58] <vultaire> can someone help me out with my alsa config?  I can't seem to mute my microphone
[04:58] <heqq> hello every one!who can answer my question about the new defect system of ubuntu?
[04:58] <NNY> anto9us: well thank you for all your help mate! i have been trying to figure this out all day!
[04:58] <anto9us> NNY, best is to have an offsite backup
[04:58] <Azunai> brenner, well unless that echo command was suppost to be done with sudo echo it aint worked :(
[04:58] <NNY> anto9us: *nodz*
[04:59] <anto9us> NNY, well now you can show your mates :)
[04:59] <tonyyarusso> How can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?
[04:59] <yigal-epw> sorry brenner main problem is that wvdial will stay connected but there won't be any bandwidth I won't be able to serf sometimes 10 min. sometimes 50 min. but it always happens
[04:59] <brenner> Azunai: is fglrx in /etc/modules
[04:59] <NNY> anto9us: hehe, thank man, have a good rest
[04:59] <Azunai> brenner, how i check?
[04:59] <brenner> actually, i don't even have it in there
[04:59] <brenner> Azunai: less /etc/modules
[05:00] <brenner> Azunai: it might not be the problem...
[05:00] <benguin> hey, is this where i ask questions about Dapper?:)
[05:00] <CanYouHelpMePlz> benguin: yes.
[05:00] <benguin> thanks, can anyone tell me if they had success installing qt4-dev packages?
[05:00] <Azunai> brenner, it says lp,mousedev.psmouse,fglrx then lots of ~ then end
[05:01] <brenner> yigal-epw: does the driver set limitations? e.g. like conexant's one limiting bandwidth unless you purchase it?
[05:01] <brenner> Azunai: i'm not sure...i'm out of ideas. :-/
[05:01] <yigal-epw> I am not sure, and I don't think so smartlink just has a little copyright in it so it is left to who ever wants it to compile it
[05:01] <brenner> besides hitting the forum when it comes back up
[05:01] <Azunai> brenner, :( ah man
[05:02] <Azunai> brenner, yeh in 2 weeks time :(
[05:02] <brenner> or trying a reinstall
[05:02] <Azunai> brenner, ive reinstalled 3 times now i aint gunna do it again :(
[05:02] <Azunai> brenner, could it be a compatability issue?
[05:02] <OsisNie^2> Hello. Admittedly I know absolutely nothing about linux, but I was curious about it and today downloaded the Ubuntu 5.10 live cd. I burned it and rebooted. It went through some simple config, but eventually seemed to have froze after a sort of splash screen with a loading bar. All that was on the frozen screen was a non blinking underscore. I tried installing it on a P3 930 mhz with 128mb of RAM. The installed OS is XP Home. Any ideas wh
[05:02] <Azunai> brenner, like my card is too new for unbuntu to detect
[05:03] <brenner> i kind of doubt it.
[05:03] <Azunai> brenner, what makes u doubt it?
[05:03] <brenner> b/c the ati.com driver is fairly recent isn't it?
[05:03] <ashe> hello
[05:04] <rjordan> OsisNie^2, did you see what it was doing when it froze? what was on the splash screen?
[05:04] <brenner> Azunai: don't give up.  i'd keep asking back in here. a lot of people are smarter than me
[05:04] <OsisNie^2> it seemed to be loading things.. the only thing I specifically noticed was that it failed to set the time
[05:04] <rjordan> Azunai, What's the trouble?
[05:04] <ashe> how do you compile programs using the live cd?
[05:05] <rjordan> OsisNie^2, it probably couldn't reach ntp.ubuntulinux.org to set the time so that's not fatal...
[05:05] <cafuego> ashe: With a compiler, like normal;. install one first.
[05:05] <brenner> rjordan: he can't get DR working
[05:05] <OsisNie^2> Right, since I use a wireless card.. not the onboard ethernet
[05:05] <ashe> hello cafuego
[05:05] <rjordan> brenner, with fglrx? join the club...
[05:05] <Azunai> rjordan, well ive just installed the ATI graphics card driver
[05:05] <ashe> get errors with apt-get install build-essential
[05:05] <brenner> rjordan: you too?
[05:06] <cafuego> ashe: It's possible the ramdisk is filling up, yes.
[05:06] <Azunai> rjordan, and every time i reboot after changing the xorg.conf from ati xserver wont load
[05:06] <ashe> how to check
[05:06] <cafuego> ashe: 'df'
[05:06] <ashe> cafuego: not full
[05:06] <rjordan> Azunai, did you 'modprobe -v fglrx' ?
[05:07] <Azunai> rjordan, dont think so the readme never said to
[05:07] <cafuego> ashe: can you paste the error to the pastebin?
[05:07] <Azunai> rj i can try if u think it will help?
[05:07] <Azunai> rjordan, i can try if it will help
[05:07] <rjordan> Azunai, which howto? where?
[05:07] <ashe> cafuego:ubuntu live on wireless laptop
[05:07] <cafuego> ashe: can you paste the error to the pastebin?
[05:08] <slavik> does the ati driver actually increase performance?
[05:08] <ashe> trying to compile wireless utilities to get to 'net.
[05:08] <Azunai> rjordan, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI?highlight=%28ati%29%7C%28binary%29 is the how to i followed doing the driver from the ati site?
[05:08] <cafuego> ashe: They come with the system, why are you compiling them?
[05:08] <ejofee> why does lilo say "Fatal: /boot/message is too big (> 65535 bytes)"? and why doesn't it say the same in mandriva?
[05:09] <ashe> first try with ubuntu. needed to do that with knoppix-std.
[05:09] <cafuego> ashe: Ubuntu comes with wireless-utils and wpasupplicant. No compiling required.
[05:09] <ashe> apt-get error:Couldn't stat source package list ..... etc.
[05:09] <rjordan> Azunai, if you do 'lsmod' does fglrx show up in there?
[05:09] <luisito> hello
[05:10] <cafuego> ashe: Yes, apt-get uses the network, eh?
[05:10] <ashe> can't get to packages.
[05:10] <ubuntugeek> Forums will be backup 1/23/2006 around 10am EST.. just a heads up, we needed to do some emergency work.
[05:10] <Azunai> rjordan, let me check
[05:10] <galgoz> ah, I was wondering about the forums
[05:10] <galgoz> I thought it was me
[05:10] <galgoz> they have been unavailable to me off and on for days now
[05:10] <ashe> ubuntu says network not needed to "apt-get install build-essential"
[05:10] <ubuntugeek> yeah we finally tracked the issue down today..
[05:10] <Azunai> rjordan, not that i can see?
[05:10] <cafuego> ubuntugeek: Eh, 10am EST is 15 hours ago.
[05:11] <cafuego> s/15/5/
[05:11] <galgoz> ubuntugeek: ah, good to hear
[05:11] <ubuntugeek> 1/23/2006 10am EST
[05:11] <rjordan> Azunai, try 'sudo modprobe -v fglrx' and tell me what it says.
[05:11] <ubuntugeek> tomorrow
[05:11] <nicholas> Anyone here keeping up with the Dapper updates?
[05:11] <gnudreamer> ok im getting really fruistrated I am attempting to install ideo4linux...all i want is to install the bttv drivers the how to is trying to get me to recompile my kernel is this necessary?
[05:11] <nicholas> - are the Dapper repos down?
[05:11] <ubuntugeek> thats my eta goal :) gotta get back to configuring.. later ..
[05:11] <cafuego> ubuntugeek: There is more than one EST.
[05:11] <luisito> I have a question... (when not?). Which things should I backup if I want to make a clean install but have all the things as they are now?
[05:11] <galgoz> I have a question since the forums are unavilable
[05:11] <rjordan> nicholas, I'm d/ling the flight3 iso right now.
[05:11] <ashe> ubuntuforum up yet?
[05:11] <nicholas> tanks rjordan.
[05:11] <galgoz> how hard is it to switch from ubuntu to kubuntu?
[05:12] <cafuego> galgoz: It's one command.
[05:12] <galgoz> cafuego: what is that?
[05:12] <danno> jbzz: hi
[05:12] <cafuego> galgoz: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:12] <jbzz> danno:  Hello.
[05:12] <ashe> do I need network to use apt-get?
[05:12] <cafuego> ashe: yes
[05:12] <Azunai> rjordan, insmod /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko
[05:12] <Azunai> FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile/fglrx.ko): No such device
[05:12] <Azunai>  is exactly what it says sorry for the paste
[05:12] <danno> jbzz: could you join #linuxhelp sethk and a few people are discussing this issue
[05:12] <galgoz> cafuego: silly question but will my gnome apps like gaim and gnomebaker still work in kubunut?
[05:12] <ashe> can't use ubuntu with wireless laptop?
[05:13] <cafuego> galgoz: yep
[05:13] <nicholas> ashe sure you can.
[05:13] <danno> jbzz: it seems the only way to write to a floppy is to use sudo at the command line or gksudo konqueror
[05:13] <cafuego> ashe: Yes, you can... depending on the wireless controller.
[05:13] <rjordan> Azunai, What graphics card do you have? It seems unsupported by the fglrx module.
[05:13] <galgoz> cafuego: sweet, and do I switch back and forth at the loggin or what?
[05:13] <luisito> I have a question... (when not?). Which things should I backup if I want to make a clean install but have all the things as they are now?
[05:13] <cafuego> ashe: But you WILL need to configure it.
[05:13] <ashe> nicholas: how?
[05:13] <cafuego> galgoz: if you so desire, yes :-)
[05:13] <danno> jbzz: i haven't found any other way for a normal user on ubuntu to write to a floppy, this seems to be an issue with ubuntu I may have to take it to the mailing list to bring attention to it
[05:13] <nicholas> ashe depends on what laptop you're using.
[05:13] <Azunai> rjordan,  SaphireTech ATI X850XT PE AIW (the best card ati have to offer basicaly) :D
[05:14] <galgoz> cafuego: sweet again, I was reading how Linux T. said everyone should use KDE and I figured I would check it out
[05:14] <gnudreamer> alright...is anyone not to overwhelmed with questions to lend a hand here?
[05:14] <ashe> nicholas:toshiba satellite
[05:14] <jbzz> danno:  I will stay and experiment.  No.  There are other ways.  Let me spend more time experimenting.  I have my normal user writing to it but want to do more experiments.
[05:14] <ashe> cafuego: how to configure wireless if I can't get to the packages?
[05:14] <nicholas> ashe ... and it depends what kind of wifi adapter you have. On the ubuntu site there is a list of adapters that are supported.
[05:14] <danno> jbzz: really? how were you able to get your normal user to write to it without sudo or gksudo?
[05:14] <galgoz> cafuego: thanks for the quick answers
[05:14] <cafuego> galgoz: Just coz Linus says so doesn't mean KDE is at all nice.
[05:15] <nicholas> ashe some adpaters just need the right drivers. Some need ndiswrapper.
[05:15] <galgoz> cafuego: yeah, but figured I would check it out
[05:15] <Azunai> rjordan, any ideas?
[05:15] <cafuego> ashe: The packages are installed already.
[05:15] <danno> jbzz: this is the only problem I need to solve right now and if you're able to write to a floppy without sudo or gksudo app i'd love to hear your findings!
[05:15] <cafuego> ashe: What wireless controller do you have?
[05:15] <nicholas> Does anyone know if the repos are down as well?!?!?
[05:16] <jbzz> danno:  Well, one experiment it to change the permissions on /media/floppy0   to  777    That works.  But I want to be able to boot to that state of permissions.
[05:16] <cafuego> nicholas: all the repos I use are fine.
[05:16] <Howi> What happened to the forum?
[05:16] <phiber_optic> does anyone know why limewire would freeze me computer?
[05:16] <rjordan> Azunai, I think the card is too new for that driver. Besides you may want gatos.sf.net for tv out capability since it's an AIW.
[05:16] <cafuego> !topic
[05:16] <ashe> using the rtl8180 driver
[05:16] <phiber_optic> Is there another good program like limewire?
[05:16] <cafuego> Howi: Read the topic.
[05:16] <rjordan> phiber_optic, because it's crap...
[05:16] <danno> jbzz: wow so that wont survive a reboot?
[05:16] <steve_laptop> hello all
[05:16] <rjordan> ph8, gtk-gnutella
[05:16] <nicholas> thx cafuego. It must be my setup then.
[05:16] <Azunai> rjordan, ive been using linux for about 3hours please try and keep it as simple as you can :)
[05:16] <cafuego> ashe: Ok. That one is not supported by default, yet.
[05:16] <phiber_optic> rjordan apt-get gtk-nutella?
[05:17] <steve_laptop> anyone here get nvidia working in 6.04
[05:17] <jbzz> danno:  Also   /media/floppy    (which is a link to  /media/floppy0      )   needs to have permissions of 777.
[05:17] <ashe> cafuego:I have worked with this extensively and need only compile it for ubuntu
[05:17] <rjordan> phiber_optic, I'm sure I don't know. It's in there somewhere.
[05:17] <jbzz> danno:  Will it survive a reboot?   That is the question.
[05:17] <phiber_optic> or where can I downloaed from?
[05:17] <danno> jbzz: but why would you want it executable
[05:17] <engla> I wonder why all lib*-dev packages are so large
[05:18] <johnnybezak> engla: probably because they have a lot of stuff only required by devs, features that users don't need
[05:18] <Azunai> rjordan, ok so how do i get my card to have 3d support etc so i can play some games :-)
[05:18] <ashe> cafuego: but I should be able to use apt-get with 'net connectivity?
[05:18] <engla> shouldn't they be just headers?
[05:18] <madcap> anyone care to explain what I need to get xine/mplayer to play WMV3 files? is there a particular codec?
[05:18] <jbzz> danno:  Well to use the 'ls' command on a directory it must be executable.
[05:18] <galgoz> this question doesn't need to be answered as it is just curiosity but. .. why is there a seperate install cd for kubuntu if you can add it by simply typing sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:18] <engla> or soemthing...
[05:18] <danno> jbzz: what about making it permissions 666 would you have to create a script for this?
[05:18] <Azunai> rjordan, i really dont care about the tvout etc i just wanna be able to play stuff in cedega :(
[05:18] <engla> galgoz: it's nice to have a cd when you have a slow connection
[05:19] <engla> galgoz: or are far away from any connection at all
[05:19] <cafuego> ashe: Well, then I won't be able to help until you can actually somehow share the error message you get when you want to install build-essential.
[05:19] <Doomhammer> someone help me please, the sound in quake4 is screwed up - i can hear it, but it's ... distorted -- i'm thinking this is the issue but i don't know how to fix it, see output from quake4: http://pastebin.com/518571
[05:19] <galgoz> engla: fair enough :)
[05:19] <tonyyarusso> How can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?
[05:19] <jbzz> danno:  Same situation.  We want control of the situation so we must understand what works.
[05:19] <danno> jbzz: I'm going to bite the floppy disc soon if I can't get the user to write to it
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> hmmm
[05:19] <ashe> cafuego:"Couldn't stat source package list"
[05:19] <Azunai> ive just installed ubuntu i can switch from gnome? to KDE by apt-get install kubuntu?
[05:19] <Dr_Willis> dont ya want the floppy mounted with the 'user' options?
[05:19] <cafuego> ashe: 'sudo apt-get update'
[05:19] <jbzz> danno:  For a quick fix you can set the permissions now for those two direcories to 777 and that should work.  A quick fix.
[05:20] <phiber_optic> where can I download gtk-gnutella?
[05:20] <gnudreamer> how do i patch my kernel ?
[05:20] <ashe> cafuego:same error
[05:20] <danno> jbzz: thanks I like the help thank you
[05:20] <rjordan> Azunai, the basic ati driver still does direct rendering AFAIK. It just does so using the much slower MesaGL libraries.
[05:20] <bimberi> Azunai: kubuntu-desktop
[05:20] <johndarkhorse> Azunai: it's 'kubuntu-desktop' that you want to install
[05:20] <Azunai> thx
[05:20] <jbzz> danno:   so as root:      chmod  777  /media/floppy0                    and                  chmod  777  /media/floppy                     that shoulkd work
[05:21] <rjordan> Azunai, What kind of processor do you have?
[05:21] <Azunai> rjordan, im a perfomance geek :) i need high fps man isnt there a specific ubuntu driver that i could install
[05:21] <ashe> cafuego:"Temporary failure resolving 'archive.ubuntu.com'"
[05:21] <phiber_optic> where can I download gtk-gnutella?
[05:21] <jbzz> danno:   But again, I want to eventually have a bulletproof solution so I will keep working on it.
[05:21] <Azunai> rjordan, on this box an amd althonxp 3200+ i
[05:21] <rjordan> phiber_optic, **cking google it already.
[05:21] <danno> jbzz: why 777 and not 666?
[05:21] <bimberi> phiber_optic: it's in the universe repository
[05:21] <brenner> phiber_optic: or eable universe
[05:22] <rjordan> Azunai, just wondering, dri is broken on amd64. found that out the hard way.
[05:22] <brenner> *enable
[05:22] <jbzz> danno:   To use the  'ls -l'   or  'ls'  commands on a directory you need execute permission.
[05:22] <gnudreamer> maybe ubuntu can put the bttv driver right into the next release!
[05:22] <bimberi> ubotu: tell phiber_optic about universe
[05:22] <phiber_optic> but the one I install in the universe it says its too old
[05:22] <Azunai> rjordan, thats y my amd athlonxp 64-bit FX-57 is running winxp :)
[05:22] <draconius> when I play movies, or drag windows around or anything like that, my sound gets horribly crackly -- anybody have an idea?
[05:22] <jbzz> danno:   And we are mounting at a share point (directory).
[05:22] <gnudreamer> ANYONE here use bttv?
[05:22] <gnudreamer> or vL
[05:22] <rjordan> Azunai, what kind of graphics card in that one?
[05:22] <ramblingturtle> hello, I am looking for away to reinstall the grub from ubuntu because right now I am using what came with Suse 10 and I want to remove it but be able to choose what kernel I want to boot from with grub any ideas would be  appreciated
[05:22] <gnudreamer> V4L
[05:22] <ashe> anybody able to use apt-get without network connectivity?
[05:23] <Azunai> rjordan, the same but it has 3gig of Kingston hyper-x ram ddr 500 :)
[05:23] <rjordan> Azunai, cause I have it working now. it just requires a workaround.
[05:23] <Dasnipa`> ashe thats simple... remove online sources, add cdrom sources
[05:23] <tonyyarusso> ramblingturtle, grub-install, iirc.
[05:23] <Dasnipa`> from the apt config file
[05:23] <jbzz> danno:   There are many levels of questions here.  That is why I must take things one at a time.
[05:23] <Azunai> rjordan, they both have the same card :(
[05:23] <MrProper_> has anyone ever noticed that amarok always dies in the ass
[05:24] <danno> jbzz: true, good luck with your experiements, I'm going to set my grandparents up with a shortcut to gksudo konqueror so they can write to floppy, I can't continue this any longer because it's testing the limits of my sanity for something which should be simple.
[05:24] <gnudreamer> mrproper yes amarok always freezes
[05:24] <ashe> Dasnipa:how to remove online sources and add cdrom sources?
[05:24] <cafuego> MrProper_: It's a KDE app, it's designed that way.
[05:24] <danno> jbzz: if you find a solution, please post to ubuntu forums when it returns
[05:24] <Azunai> rjordan, it doesnt matter that im downloading Kubuntu does it?
[05:24] <rjordan> Azunai, no.
[05:24] <Azunai> i want kde not really a gnome fan :)
[05:24] <Azunai> rjordan, my download speed is ausome lol
[05:24] <jbzz> danno:  OK.  I will find the best approach to this.
[05:24] <ashe> Dasnipa:can't find cdrom sources.
[05:24] <gnudreamer> ANYONE here use bttv?
[05:24] <brenner> ramblingturtle: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecoveringUbuntuAfterInstallingWindows
[05:25] <Dasnipa`> ashe, man apt-config
[05:25] <danno> jbzz: please post to ubuntu forums with the solution when you master this so others can benefit from your wisdom =)
[05:25] <Azunai> 1197kb/s :P
[05:25] <rjordan> Azunai, I'm getting 600kB/s on the dapper iso right now :)
[05:25] <ashe> Dasnipa:doing that now.
[05:25] <danno> jbzz: from my googling it looks like this is a common issue with little solution outside a gksudo app or sudo at command line way out
[05:25] <syntax13> is there anyone who can help me with problems compiling glfw programs?
[05:25] <jbzz> danno:   Remember doing the chmod commands I mentioned could solve your problem right away.
[05:25] <Azunai> rjordan, im downloading kubuntu right now at 1249kbs :P
[05:26] <MrProper_> cafuego, lol, its a shame because amarok is such a nice player
[05:26] <rjordan> Azunai, OMFG!!!
[05:26] <Azunai> rjordan, hehe 10MB cable hookup mate :)
[05:26] <danno> jbzz: thanks I could try that but I'm taking a flight out of here in the morning and my grandparents will be rebooting it after I leave
[05:26] <eli> hello everyone, anyone know the a solution to fglrx in configuring resolution?
[05:26] <TheBeast> Is it possible to install ubuntu using the 5.10 installation cd and then apt-get upgrade or something? do I have to add some extra/new repositories or what?
[05:26] <danno> jbzz: so I'd need to have it survive a reboot, does it?
[05:26] <Azunai> rjordan, but i get an extra 200-400 kbs in linux more than i do in linux
[05:26] <rjordan> err...
[05:26] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, 5.10 is the current.
[05:26] <galgoz> heheh
[05:26] <brenner> eli: what's the problem exactly?
[05:27] <Azunai> rjordan, as im a big gamer i really need to use linux as the networking technolagy is far more stable and the pings are better :P
[05:27] <jbzz> danno:  I need to experiment with it!   Can't give you an answer right this minute.
[05:27] <TheBeast> tonyyarusso some update was released a few days ago
[05:27] <danno> jbzz: okay bye
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, However, you can use any CD and upgrade online.
[05:27] <phiber_optic> how do I know if im connected in gtk gnutella?
[05:27] <TheBeast> including gnome 2.13.4 or something
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, Dapper Flight 3, but that is not for general use.
[05:27] <Azunai> rjordan, i just took a screenshot of it lol
[05:27] <carter> question: what file would i modify to have a script or program run after a user logs in and starts gnome?
[05:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell TheBeast about dapper
[05:27] <TheBeast> is it some sort of release candidate?
[05:27] <cafuego> carter: Easiest is to add it in Prefernces -> Sessions
[05:27] <Azunai> rjordan, the download speed i mean :) i so have to post that on a few gaming forums :D
[05:28] <rjordan> Azunai, nice :)
[05:28] <TheBeast> oh yea
[05:28] <TheBeast> :D
[05:28] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, Yeah, it's a preview, and developer-types run it and help sort out the bugs.
[05:28] <phiber_optic> rjordan how do i know if my gtk gnutella is running?
[05:28] <Azunai> rjordan, il send it ya if u wanna see :P
[05:28] <TheBeast> tonyyarusso it'd be nice to install it and squash some bugs out of it
[05:29] <rjordan> nah, I believe you ;)
[05:29] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, Hey, if you're into that, be my guest.  I'm not about to try it though.
[05:29] <Azunai> that im definatly posting :)
[05:29] <rjordan> phiber_optic, is there a window on your screen that says 'gtk-gnutella'?
[05:29] <phiber_optic> yeah I started
[05:29] <phiber_optic> it
[05:29] <TheBeast> tonyyarusso that's the fun about linux in my opinion
[05:29] <Azunai> lol how big is kubuntu?
[05:29] <luisito> guy help here, please
[05:29] <luisito> guys help here, please
[05:29] <rjordan> with?
[05:29] <galgoz> azunai, fairly big, mine is still downloading
[05:30] <phiber_optic> but I click on sear and nothing searches :(
[05:30] <galgoz> azunai, I am at get 43
[05:30] <Azunai> galgoz, lol mines done
[05:30] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, Ah.  Well then go for it.  I prefer mine to work at the moment, but I can see where you're coming from.
[05:30] <Azunai> galgoz, took about 2 mins lol
[05:30] <luisito> I have ubuntu installed in my drive
[05:30] <Azunai> im on the config screen now
[05:30] <eli> brenner : i just installed the ubuntu fglrx driver and the 3d works but now the resolution is not right
[05:30] <Dasnipa`> Azunai, kubuntu is the size of kde + overhead
[05:30] <eli> brenner : i have a widescreen 1280 by 800
[05:30] <galgoz> azunai, hehe, I am using azureus right now too,
[05:30] <gnudreamer> am i on ignore ?
[05:30] <luisito> and I want to install windows now sharing that drive, how can I do that?
[05:30] <Dasnipa`> yes gnudreamer
[05:30] <Azunai> galgoz, whats asureus?
[05:31] <galgoz> azunai, a bittorrent client
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, What's RDP?
[05:31] <rjordan> ali_, did you run the fglrxconfig?
[05:31] <TheBeast> tonyyarusso it's nice to have a working/usable environment but at the same time I think every linux user should actually contribute somehow:)
[05:31] <gnudreamer> im really trying to do this on my own but im stuck
[05:31] <steve_laptop> is the forum down?
[05:31] <Azunai> its taking longer to install than it did to download :S
[05:31] <cafuego> rjordan: Why would you use that inefficient POS protocol if you didn't have to?
[05:31] <ramblingturtle> brenner: thank you that is exactly what I was looking for
[05:31] <galgoz> azunai, so I am downlaoding other stuff as well, my connection is 6 down
[05:31] <tonyyarusso> TheBeast, A good idea.  So far answering the questions I can is mine, b/c I know nothing about programming / development.
[05:32] <Azunai> galgoz, u should just use apt-get i was getting 1200kbs ? so why use bitorent?
[05:32] <galgoz> azunai, although I am luckily dling at about 6.5 typically
[05:32] <gnudreamer> I am following steps to allow my tv card to work...I simply can't get the bttv tar installed
[05:32] <vultaire> Can anyone help me with this?  My microphone is playing back on my speakers, and I can't seem to mute it aside from totally muting it
[05:32] <rjordan> tonyyarusso, it's what windows uses for remote desktop, it's much better then vnc since it only sends the primitive window drawing info instead of pictures of the desktop itself.
[05:32] <phiber_optic> rjordan I cannot search anything :(
[05:32] <TheBeast> tonyyarusso ;-)
[05:32] <Azunai> galgoz, 6mb down nice :)
[05:32] <galgoz> azunai, I am using apt get, just using some of my bandwidth on azureus dlwonloading other stuff
[05:32] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, Hmm.
[05:32] <jbzz> danno:  Are you still there?
[05:32] <Azunai> galgoz, ahhh i get ya
[05:32] <cafuego> rjordan: But rdesktop supports RDP just fine
[05:32] <luisito> how do I install windows after ubuntu?
[05:32] <johnnybezak> he guys whats a lightweight qt text editor?
[05:32] <Azunai> galgoz, sorry man im a complete noob to linux :)
[05:33] <eli> anyone know how to make a fglrx driver give the right resolution? i have a widescreen, but he program is running on defualt
[05:33] <johnnybezak> luisito: put in your windows cd.
[05:33] <galgoz> azunai, k, I am new too
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> vultaire, Try alsamixer, and you can mute the microphone input separately.
[05:33] <anarkissed> hello, new ubuntu user here
[05:33] <eli> when ubuntu previously had the right resolution
[05:33] <Azunai> ok it says in console setting up Kubuntu? yet nothing is happening?
[05:33] <johnnybezak> anarkissed: hi :)
[05:33] <anarkissed> hi johnnybezak
[05:33] <Azunai> hello anarkissed
[05:33] <galgoz> anarkissed: hello
[05:33] <tonyyarusso> anarkissed, Welcome.
[05:33] <anarkissed> hello everyone else too lol
[05:33] <regeya> greetings new ubuntu user and congratulations
[05:33] <Azunai> anarkissed, hello :)
[05:33] <phiber_optic> can someone help me with gtk gnutella?
[05:33] <vultaire> tonyyarusso: if I run alsamixer, hit tab to go to capture, and look at the Mic column, it's blacked out
[05:33] <luisito> johnnybezak, the thing is I don't want to delete ubuntu.
[05:34] <regeya> !tell anarkissed about ask
[05:34] <Azunai> regeya, are you rather knowlegable on linux?
[05:34] <anarkissed> well after 8 years it's the first 'nix sys to run X and connect to the net
[05:34] <regeya> not to be rude.
[05:34] <vultaire> erm... wait
[05:34] <rjordan> cafuego, it can connect to windows boxen but not send its own desktop elsewhere right? I seem to remember concluding that last time I checked.
[05:34] <deadcat66> hi all, i am haivng trouble with the cmd 'sudo dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda
[05:34] <deadcat66> '   all I get is 0+0 in and out.  any ideas?
[05:34] <galgoz> all: I installed ubuntu last week and my buddy keeps having to listen to me goiing "dude! ubuntu rules!" about 6 times a day since then
[05:34] <cafuego> rjordan: Nope, but then, we use xdmcp for that.
[05:34] <regeya> Azunai, yes and no lol
[05:34] <vultaire> tonyyarusso: sorry, was looking at something else too... under playback, the mic is muted
[05:34] <johnnybezak> luisito: i presume you made a partition for windows when you setup ubuntu, so now just install windows into that partition
[05:34] <slavik> galgoz: then you have a problem ...
[05:35] <eli> a healthy problem
[05:35] <galgoz> slavik: ??
[05:35] <phiber_optic> can someone help me with gtk gnutella?
[05:35] <Azunai> regeya, do you have any experiance in installing newer range graphics cards?
[05:35] <gnudreamer> ubuntu does rule! although some processes can be difficult
[05:35] <slavik> galgoz: you need to stop calling him ^^
[05:35] <eli> phiber_optic , sorry dont know the program
[05:35] <anarkissed> question:  What is the easiest way to get rid of the grey window frames, bars, etc. and replace it with the color of my choice in Xwindows?
[05:35] <Azunai> gnudreamer, yeah like installing a damn graphics card so it will work :@
[05:35] <galgoz> slavik: heheh, mainly via IM or Nextel DC
[05:35] <tonyyarusso> vultaire,  You might try just playing around with a couple of other areas, I know there were more than one that involve the mic.  I've only used it once myself, to unmute actually.
[05:35] <regeya> Azunai, no.
[05:35] <Howi> From what I could gather from the topic, the forum is down for good and it is replaced by this channel?
[05:35] <Azunai> regeya, damn! lol
[05:35] <regeya> !tell Azunai about ask
[05:36] <luisito> johnnybezak, no, there isn't an empty partition for windows, that's the problem.
[05:36] <gnudreamer> azunai or a tv capture card or a web cam
[05:36] <slavik> galgoz: you need to get rid of all wired in the computer room that can possibly carry a network connection, remove all window (make the solid walls) then paint the room with aluminum based paint
[05:36] <vultaire> tonyyarusso: ahh... thanks anyway I guess :P  I've been trying on and off for days to get this to work
[05:36] <ashe> Disnipa:can you be a little more explicit?
[05:36] <syntax13> is there anyone who can help me with problems compiling glfw programs?
[05:36] <gnudreamer> xorg conf is how i got my graphics card working
[05:36] <Azunai> gnudreamer, my graphics card is kinda everything in one
[05:36] <tonyyarusso> vultaire, Icky.  Wish I had a better idea for you.
[05:36] <slavik> would there be any problem for xorg to work in 1280x768 resolution?
[05:36] <Azunai> gnudreamer, yeh when i edit that xorg.conf xserver refuses to load?
[05:36] <galgoz> slavik: um, tree?
[05:37] <slavik> what tree?
[05:37] <vultaire> tonyyarusso: np
[05:37] <ashe> anybody know how to tell apt-get to use the cdrom instead of http?
[05:37] <galgoz> slavik: that is my way of saying you lost me
[05:37] <Azunai> Does anyone here have any idea how to install a ATI X850XT PE graphics card on ubuntu?
[05:37] <regeya> seriously people, just ask the question, don't probe people first for vague information then get more specific as you finally find someone who knows.  this is the sort of b.s. I deal with when I work; people *will not* be direct and to the point.  it's annoying, counterproductive, and wastes both your and my time.
[05:37] <phiber_optic> rjordan can u help me please?
[05:37] <gnudreamer> azunai we have some really good graphics guys here sometimes...latley all my graphics questions go unanswered
[05:37] <johnnybezak> anyone here use scribus?
[05:37] <rjordan> phiber_optic, no. google it.
[05:37] <slavik> galgoz: the point was to cut off all your ability to communicate outside the room ...
[05:37] <Azunai> gnudreamer, so.. the graphics people are on holiday lol
[05:37] <slavik> then you can't bother your friend :)
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> How can I go from ati.com fglrx back to the repos one?
[05:38] <gnudreamer> there might be a pay per solution ubuntu chat somewhere
[05:38] <galgoz> slavik: ah :)
[05:38] <regeya> ruby needs something equivalent to pythoncard.
[05:38] <johnnybezak> phiber_optic: what's the problem?
[05:38] <slavik> tonyyarusso: does ati provide a way to remove their drivers?
[05:38] <galgoz> slavik: he understands now, he installed it thursday cause of my ranting and about 15 min later I got a call and he was like "dude, ubunut rules"
[05:38] <patrick_> I have a question pertaining to Sound Driver in teamspeak.  When I use OSS in teamspeak (only one that seems to work) I lose audo in everything else.  Anyway to assign Teamspeak to an alternitive driver that wont take over my other sounds or game sounds?
[05:38] <phiber_optic> my gtk-gnutella cannot connect and I dont know what to do
[05:38] <Azunai> there has to be a way to install this graphics card
[05:38] <tonyyarusso> slavik, No idea.
[05:38] <Azunai> oh i think kubuntu is installed do i just reload x?
[05:39] <jbzz> danno:   Are you still around?
[05:39] <slavik> tonyyarusso: have you tried editing the config file in the proper location, beside that ... no clue
[05:39] <gnudreamer> you can always have a dual boot system so your operating system can do everything..but without end-users  like us linux will never compete with the devil
[05:39] <slavik> IMO, Ubuntu needs to do something with the menus ...
[05:39] <slavik> gnudreamer: who's the devil?
[05:39] <johnnybezak> patrick_: that sounds like a problem with oss, rather than with your driver i'm not sure how to help though.
[05:39] <gnudreamer> winblowz
[05:39] <rjordan> Azunai, if you paste your /etc/X11/xorg.conf , the output of 'dmesg' and the error you get when you 'sudo modprobe -v fglrx' to a pastebin service it may make it easier for someone who knows to help you when they should stop by :)
[05:39] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Well, the problem with that is the line will be fglrx in xorg.conf either way.
[05:39] <Azunai> gnudreamer, i have decided that microsoft can stick its eula were the sun dont shine :)
[05:39] <galgoz> gnudreamer: I only use windows for my macromedia studio 8
[05:40] <slavik> as far as I kniow, ext3 can't mount zip files as partitions ... (which winxp can)
[05:40] <patrick_> johnnybezak, it does this samething on my other computer
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, I've heard wine will run that.  Ever tried it?
[05:40] <gnudreamer> i hear that synfig studio is as good as macromedia
[05:40] <slavik> tonyyarusso: maybe the symbolic link would be different? I honestly don't know hwo to help you
[05:40] <Azunai> rjordan, sorry mate but i have no idea what u mean as im new to linux and the contecnt of xorg.conf is huge
[05:40] <gnudreamer> I cant get that installed like many tar's the manual dont explain how to install
[05:40] <galgoz> tony: i tried crossover and it doesn't support it
[05:40] <patrick_> johnnybezak, is there an alternate driver I can point teamspeak to?
[05:40] <galgoz> tony: you have to go back a few versions
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> slavik, That's a good suggestion anyway.  I can search around.
[05:40] <SEJeff> slavik, windows xp can not "mount zip files as partitions"
[05:40] <regeya> slavik, winxp doesn't mount them, it's done elsewhere.  kde's konqueror can also use ioslaves to trick you into believing it can 'mount' zipfiles
[05:40] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Huh.  Somebody lied then.
[05:41] <slavik> regeya: konqueror ... not linux ...
[05:41] <Azunai> brb guys
[05:41] <rjordan> Azunai, checkout pastebin.com
[05:41] <phiber_optic> johnny break any suggestion?
[05:41] <regeya> slavik, the first sentence was your first clue about what I was getting at...
[05:41] <fangorious> does gnome have a systray app to monitor keyring usage (like the wallet in kde)?
[05:41] <galgoz> tony: wait, you can run it, somehting about installing a nocd hack
[05:41] <slavik> SEJeff: I was reffering to the option of compressing the entire drive ...
[05:41] <galgoz> tony: don't know anything about htat
[05:42] <slavik> Something still needs to be done with the menus ...
[05:42] <galgoz> tony: so I just run windows in linux using qemu
[05:42] <SEJeff> slavik, I'm pretty sure you can do stuff like that with loopback filesystems and some fuse magic
[05:42] <galgoz> tony: thinking about switching to win4lin
[05:42] <SEJeff> slavik, I know that is possible
[05:42] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Where'd you find that?
[05:42] <regeya> ok, I'm getting really extremely crabby, so I should go to bed or something
[05:42] <regeya> :-P
[05:42] <ashe> does anyone know where on the live CD are the packages?
[05:42] <slavik> SEJeff: probably ... but I doubt it is as easy to set up ...
[05:43] <galgoz> tony: on the crossover forum post on dreamweaver 8
[05:43] <Azunai> yay kde :P
[05:43] <regeya> it's really quite an oversight given the great need for mountable zipfiles
[05:43] <galgoz> tony: no idea where to find the nocd hack though
[05:43] <TheBeast> Azunai LOL at teh microsoft eula thingie:)
[05:43] <galgoz> tony: something about dl a pirate version
[05:43] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Okay.
[05:43] <galgoz> tony; guess that would be ok, since I own the license legally
[05:43] <Azunai> TheBeast, i ment it too
[05:44] <TheBeast> microsoft is not that bad. they just make crappy operating systems :)
[05:44] <phiber_optic> johnny break any suggestion?
[05:44] <CanYouHelpMePlz> TheBeast: true
[05:44] <deadcat66> '   all I get is 0+0 in and out.  any ideas?
[05:44] <galgoz> tony: althougth since adobe just bought macromedia, I am hoping they will make a linux install
[05:44] <slavik> TheBeast: they still have the best solitaire program ^^
[05:44] <Azunai> TheBeast, as a windows based technichal god i know the bugs that are in windows lol and i hate them all bill gates ha
[05:44] <TheBeast> CanYouHelpMePlz ask btw :)
[05:44] <TheBeast> slavik good ol' solitaire:D
[05:45] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, That would be way cool.
[05:45] <Azunai> slavik, yeah but that will be ported to linux soon enough :P
[05:45] <galgoz> tony: here is hoping
[05:45] <SEJeff> Azunai, what qualifies you as a windows tech god?
[05:45] <fangorious> anyone? gnome-keyring monitoring systray applet?
[05:45] <slavik> Azunai: I am sure Wine won't have a problem playing solitaire
[05:45] <Hentai^XPwork> Azunai bugs as?
[05:45] <TheBeast> Azunai a good friend of mine works for them:)
[05:45] <galgoz> tony: I would love to have only my custom media center, using beyond tv, not windows mce, be my only windows pc
[05:45] <Azunai> SEJeff, a MCSE :)
[05:46] <deadcat66> should I be using 'sudo dd bs=1048576 if=./tiger-x86-flat.img of=/dev/hda
[05:46] <deadcat66> ' to unpack the tiger img?  or get rid of the sudo?  if I get rid of the sugo i get permission denied.  any ideas?
[05:46] <phiber_optic> please can someone help me withm gtk-gnutella?
[05:46] <Azunai> TheBeast, does he have a wife called kate?
[05:46] <SEJeff> Azunai, lol. ever heard the term "paper mcse" that doesn't know anything in practicallity? not saying you are
[05:46] <slavik> phiber_optic: state your problem
[05:46] <TheBeast> Azunai he's not married
[05:46] <phiber_optic> when I search I dont gett any resluts
[05:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> on a freebsd system, what would be the command to kill all bash processes ?
[05:46] <phiber_optic> i dont even think its connected
[05:46] <CanYouHelpMePlz> *they are running in screen*
[05:46] <slavik> CanYouHelpMePlz: have you tried the docs?
[05:47] <guanaco_> I'm running a ssh server with ppk authentication, and works great, but when I try to do port forwarding i get error "Permission denied (publickey)"
[05:47] <Azunai> SEJeff, yeh i have :) lol unfortunatly im not one wish i bloody was tho u any idea how many phone calls u get can u train our staff to do this or this
[05:47] <guanaco_> can U please help?
[05:47] <galgoz> what is gnutella, this has been brought up several times in the last 5 min
[05:47] <phiber_optic> it says 0 nodes 0 files 0 kib
[05:47] <Azunai> SEJeff, as i said i hate bill gates and i hate microsoft lol
[05:47] <slavik> gnutella, one of those programs you use to get RIAA's attention ^^
[05:47] <Azunai> TheBeast, or GF called kate :)
[05:47] <CanYouHelpMePlz> hmm, killall screen worked, never mind
[05:47] <galgoz> ah
[05:47] <Hentai^XPwork> Azunai can you go into #kubuntu-offtopic and talk to me about these windows bugs there?
[05:47] <TheBeast> Azunai he's a geek
[05:47] <TheBeast> geeks don't have gfs
[05:48] <slavik> Azunai: you're jsut jealous because his OS was sold for 30USd and Unix was sold for 400USD by IBM ...
[05:48] <galgoz> is there a ubuntu offtopic?
[05:48] <Hentai^XPwork> yes
[05:48] <galgoz> since I am jsut chatting
[05:48] <patrick_> Can anyone explain this http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=faq&id=3&item=43#q43
[05:48] <Hentai^XPwork> #ubuntu-offtopic
[05:48] <Azunai> Hentai^XPwork, unfortunatly i cant atm im trying to find a fix to fix my graphics card issue :(
[05:48] <SEJeff> Azunai, I get calls from headhunters (tech recruiting companies) weekly telling me about "great opportunities" they have for me in Unix systems admin
[05:48] <frazmanw> where is the file with repositories
[05:48] <phiber_optic> slavik can u hellp me?
[05:48] <guanaco_> I'm running a ssh server with ppk authentication, and works great, but when I try to do port forwarding i get error "Permission denied (publickey)"
[05:48] <tritium> guanaco_, try not to repeat, please
[05:48] <Azunai> slavik, LOL no i just dont like windows or any microsoft product apart from excel :)
[05:49] <whee> SEJeff, usually, they mean Unix such as Solaris, HP-UX and the like
[05:49] <madcap> when you download something with synaptic or apt-get where is the package stored?
[05:49] <SEJeff> Azunai, nothing compares to M$ streets and Trips
[05:49] <rjordan> CanYouHelpMePlz, it would be 'killall -9 bash'
[05:49] <slavik> Azunai: I have to say that there is no real competitor to Access.
[05:49] <SEJeff> whee, I work with HP-UX daily... and linux too
[05:49] <slavik> Who was asking about killing everything on FreeBSD?
[05:49] <CanYouHelpMePlz> rjordan: got it already thanks :-) killall screen worked
[05:49] <Azunai> SEJeff, seriously? so is unix worth going getting trained up on? cus i was always told the Windows servers was the way to go i was going to learn cisco but dont really see the point?
[05:49] <galgoz> there is a question, when I click on a link in an external app, they don't open into firefox automatically?
[05:49] <galgoz> there=here
[05:50] <slavik> galgoz: what do you use right now?
[05:50] <Azunai> slavik, at the moment i would tend to agree i do like access :) come to think of it
[05:50] <SEJeff> Azunai, Well look at the average salary of a M$ MCSE versus an HP CSA (HP-UX certified unix systems admin). The Unix systems admins always get paid more
[05:50] <phiber_optic> can anybody help me pleasee ?
[05:50] <slavik> Azunai: MySQL is only recently started catching up to SQL Server and others ...
[05:50] <TheBeast> SEJeff how's HP-UX ?
[05:51] <SEJeff> Azunai, Cisco is also a very hot skillset to have. Basic cisco (CCNA) is easy as long as you understand networking and the OSI layer model
[05:51] <slavik> SEJeff: but how many jobs are available as the MS dude vs the HP dude?
[05:51] <rjordan> Azunai, it would be better to have experience adminitering linux servers then having an MCSE at this point, but only in terms of long term, not so much in the short term money bracket.
[05:51] <Azunai> SEJeff, yeah but ... it means spending more money to learn a new os
[05:51] <SEJeff> TheBeast, in the process of being migrated to SLES (linux) :)
[05:51] <patrick_> Is there an alternate sound driver I can use with Teamspeak besides dev/dsp?
[05:51] <slavik> WHO WAS ASKING ABOUT FREEBSD?!
[05:51] <slavik> http://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?query=kill&apropos=0&sektion=0&manpath=FreeBSD+6.0-RELEASE+and+Ports&format=html
[05:51] <SEJeff> Azunai, no. I just learned it myself
[05:51] <anarkissed> i have tried to follow instructions found on the web to install kde and it all appeared to work but I'm still in gnome.  I wish to set custom colors on the GUI and don't know what to try next.
[05:51] <frazmanw> someone please tell me were the file is with repositories
[05:51] <Azunai> rjordan, why do you say that?
[05:51] <TheBeast> SEJeff why? forgot to pay the licenses?:D
[05:51] <galgoz> here is a question, when I click on a link in an external app, they don't open into firefox automatically?
[05:51] <Azunai> SEJeff, really?
[05:51] <tritium> frazmanw, /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:51] <whee> guanaco_, look for AllowTcpForwarding in /etc/ssh/sshd_config
[05:51] <CanYouHelpMePlz> can somone help me with a command? i want to move all files containing vent to a folder named ventrilo, how would i do this with a command?
[05:52] <SEJeff> TheBeast, java runs 23x faster on Linux than on HP-UX according to benchmarks on our own web applications
[05:52] <guanaco_> Thanks, Whee... I will
[05:52] <SEJeff> TheBeast, that alone is enough reason to switch
[05:52] <holy_cow> hey would anyone be able to tell me what library contains libXaw3d.so.7?
[05:52] <rjordan> Azunai, I've become more proficient at my job and am better positioned for future opportunities because of my *NIX experience. Anyone can learn windows.
[05:52] <TheBeast> oh
[05:52] <slavik> galgoz: is firefox set as the default browser?
[05:52] <holy_cow> i can't find a reference to this anywhere, and xaw3dg package doesn't seem to contain this
[05:52] <SEJeff> rjordan, amen
[05:52] <phiber_optic> can anybody help me pleasee ?
[05:52] <Azunai> SEJeff, im attempting to learn C++ at the min so dont want to get caught up in too much info
[05:52] <galgoz> slavik: I think so, if the only place you set that is in firefox
[05:52] <holy_cow> rjordan, actually most people don't learn windows, they learn the windows gui
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> SEJeff, 23?!?  Wow.
[05:53] <tritium> Azunai, regarding the "E" in MCSE, if you want to call yourself a real engineer, get an engineering degree
[05:53] <Azunai> rjordan, thats very true windows is easy
[05:53] <slavik> hmm
[05:53] <syntax13> can anyone help me with a problem compiling glfw programs? Everything was fine yesterday, and today i'm suddnely getting "Udefined Reference" errors to all the glfw functions
[05:53] <holy_cow> rjordan, anyone can learn a gui, which equally applies to any os as a general rule
[05:53] <Azunai> tritium, no im saving up some cash i want to do a masters degree in computer science :)
[05:53] <tonyyarusso> rjordan, Anyone can learn *some* Windows.  Nobody truly knows how to make it work, because it doesn't.
[05:53] <galgoz> tony: nice
[05:53] <guanaco_> Do I need to add an entry to /etc/ssh/ssh_config?  Before, I was not using PPK and the command ssh -D will work, but know that I use PPK i get permission deniend
[05:53] <anarkissed> tritium the E in mcse stands for expert, microsoft certified systems expert, not engineer
[05:54] <SEJeff> Azunai, I can learn unix skills and write a script to administer 100 computers just as fast as I administer 1. Try doing that with 100 windows servers
[05:54] <holy_cow> Azunai, windows isn't easy, it just has a gui for most average things.  the reason windows is so hacked beyond belief is because average users THINK windows is easy and as such don't bother learning how to properly admin a computer
[05:54] <tritium> anarkissed, that's more appropriate...
[05:54] <slavik> galgoz: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Setting_Your_Default_Browser
[05:54] <phiber_optic> can someone help me with gtk-gnutella?
[05:54] <galgoz> slavid: checking it out thanks
[05:55] <Azunai> holy_cow, hell i disagree everything in windows has easy to use gui's
[05:55] <rjordan> I've never heard a windows admin say 'Now begone! Or I shall replace you with a very small batchfile!'
[05:55] <Azunai> holy_cow, windows is basicaly self explanitory
[05:55] <slavik> galgoz: that was done using google :)
[05:55] <holy_cow> Azunai, it is not self explanatory
[05:55] <Azunai> rjordan, LOL
[05:55] <holy_cow> Azunai, it just seems self explanatory because people have 15 years of training on it
[05:55] <slavik> holy_cow: good point there
[05:56] <anarkissed> does anyone have a suggestion as to where i can go to get real-time help in customizing my ubuntu X desktop?
[05:56] <galgoz> slavik: see, I always think I need the ubuntu forums
[05:56] <cafuego> anarkissed: Most MCSEs are neither engineers nor experts, so i don't think the interpretation matters.
[05:56] <holy_cow> Azunai, its always interesting to watch people make such comments and be totally unaware of the simple fact that using someting for 15 years seems like 'sself explanatory'
[05:56] <Azunai> holy_cow, im 21 lol not had that much training but it really is self explanitory it tells you everything u need to know
[05:56] <holy_cow> Azunai, sorry dude, wrong
[05:56] <Azunai> cafuego, i tend to agree
[05:56] <phiber_optic> can someone help me with gtk-gnutella?
[05:56] <slavik> Some of the problems and peeves that I bring up to some people who are more knowledgable about *nix, they always have an answer
[05:56] <slavik> phiber_optic: does gnutella connect to the server?
[05:56] <anarkissed> cafuego, that's just what m$ has named the degree for mcse so take it up with them
[05:56] <Azunai> holy_cow, thats just my opinion but i really think it does i mean whats not self explanitory?
[05:56] <holy_cow> Azunai, write a gui for all the command stuff in linux and that will seem 'self explanatory' as well
[05:56] <phiber_optic> i dont know I very new to linux
[05:56] <slavik> also, is there a way to run ethereal in a "live mode" ?
[05:57] <draconius> slavik: yes
[05:57] <rjordan> Azunai, I'm 23 and have a lot of practical linux experience, it's a very empowering road to travel, however frustrating :)
[05:57] <cafuego> anarkissed: yeah, "Monkey Certificate" didn't sell well, so they changed it ;-)
[05:57] <Azunai> holy_cow, i cant even install a graphics card in linux writing a gui is a little too hard for me
[05:57] <slavik> phiber_optic: is there a way to check if it is connected to anything?
[05:57] <tonyyarusso> How can I force apt to install --reinstall a package from the repos if a new version was installed manually?
[05:57] <slavik> phiber_optic: It might not be connected
[05:57] <phiber_optic> I think it is not
[05:57] <Azunai> rjordan, were do you start tho?
[05:57] <slavik> tonyyarusso: I think there is a --force option
[05:57] <phiber_optic> how do I make it connect to sommething?
[05:57] <menkent> anyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working in breezy?
[05:57] <slavik> phiber_optic: in the options?
[05:57] <holy_cow> Azunai, it has to do with 'persistence of belief' once you come to a conclusion about something you will hold on to it no matter what anyone says.  thus i am not trying to change your mind, simply illustrate an alternative possiblity for WHY you have those beliefs :)
[05:57] <Azunai> rjordan, there are so many distro's and commands etc
[05:57] <tritium> tonyyarusso, with that very option (--reinstall)
[05:57] <holy_cow> but go ahead, believe that windows is self explanatory all you want
[05:57] <phiber_optic> What options?
[05:58] <draconius> slavik: when you setup a capture, have the option set that says 'update list of packets in real time"
[05:58] <rjordan> Azunai, I started with OpenBSD. Now I use FreeBSD for my home server and Gentoo linux and ubuntu linux.
[05:58] <slavik> draconius: thanks.
[05:58] <Azunai> holy_cow, as i said its just my opinion because i was trained on it so i have become acustom to it but i may be wrong
[05:58] <galgoz> slavik: it is set as default "firefox %s" is in the box just like the doc you had me read says but clicking on a link still does nothing
[05:58] <slavik> draconius: another ethereal question, can it track which process/binary is sending/receiving packets?
[05:58] <rjordan> Azunai, I highly recommend freebsd as a learning tool and an example of how things should be done.
[05:58] <tonyyarusso> tritium, Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[05:58] <cafuego> anarkissed: Right after the killer asteroid hits
[05:58] <Azunai> rjordan, i tried installing gentoo it took me 12 hours and guesse what
[05:58] <phiber_optic> slavik but  I get 0 nodes, 0 files 0 k9b
[05:58] <PuppiesOnAcid> How do I load stuff onto my ipod through rhythmbox?
[05:58] <slavik> galgoz: read on, it tells you how to reconfigure that.
[05:58] <tritium> tonyyarusso, why do you say that?
[05:59] <CanYouHelpMePlz> is ps aux an absolute list of everything that's running ?
[05:59] <slavik> phiber_optic: 0 nodes probably means that you aren't connected anywhere ...
[05:59] <holy_cow> Azunai, thank you.  that is exactly what i just said.  you have been trained on it.  being trained to use it and something being self explanatory are completely different things :)  again, just a point of interest.  take as you will
[05:59] <anarkissed> ok, i am not going to get help for my problem here I see, so I will go back to the usual places and keep hoping for a break
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> tritium, Because it's registered as not being from the repos?
[05:59] <anarkissed> thanks anyway
[05:59] <draconius> slavik: i am not sure, sorry
[05:59] <phiber_optic> how do I connect to anythign?
[05:59] <slavik> phiber_optic: if nodes are the 'servers' ...
[05:59] <Azunai> rjordan, it installed fine but i couldnt get X to load had a problem when i tried to emerge -ati-drivers so i emerge --pretend ati-drivers and it had a dependancy issue
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> tritium, That's the error I got.
[05:59] <Azunai> rjordan,  so i gave up
[05:59] <slavik> phiber_optic: I have no clue, I don't use gnutella
[05:59] <tritium> tonyyarusso, I see that it's available
[05:59] <rjordan> Azunai, YOU MUST NEVAR GIVE TEH UP!
[05:59] <tonyyarusso> tritium, I know that it's available.
[05:59] <tritium> tonyyarusso, in the repos
[06:00] <phiber_optic> what software do u use to download?
[06:00] <StarKruz1> hi guys.
[06:00] <PuppiesOnAcid> How do I load stuff onto my ipod through rhythmbox?
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> tritium, I have a higher version of the package from a standalone deb installed.
[06:00] <Azunai> holy_cow, i do agree with you seen as my mum is scared of windows but uses mandrake linux and doesnt have a problem its just im that used to it its self explanitory lol
[06:00] <galgoz> slavik: when I run update-alternatives --config x-www-browser
[06:00] <slavik> tonyyarusso: apt-get doesn't want to do something?
[06:00] <StarKruz1> I have an existing Ubuntu system and have two 30GB drives I want to add to it.
[06:00] <galgoz> slavik: it says I have only one browser installed
[06:00] <menkent> anyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working (in breezy)?
[06:00] <Azunai> rjordan, dude if you wanna SSH install gentoo il download the live cd right now
[06:00] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Correct.
[06:00] <StarKruz1> is there some way I can join these to the existing partition?
[06:00] <Azunai> rjordan, and at 1200kbs it wont take long
[06:00] <Azunai> rjordan, lol
[06:00] <slavik> tonyyarusso: hold on ...
[06:01] <vultaire> does anyone have a favorite resource for linux c/c++ programming tutorials?  I do a lot of Windoze coding, but I'd like to experiment in Linux with stuff
[06:01] <tritium> tonyyarusso, purge it, and reinstall from the repos.  Why did you do that, by the way?
[06:01] <tonyyarusso> slavik, I have fglrx from ati.com, and I want to change it back to the repos one.  Will wait.
[06:01] <holy_cow> vultaire, google :)
[06:01] <tritium> ati.com has .deb downloads now?
[06:01] <holy_cow> vultaire, the topic is so large as to be unansweable on irc ... pick a project and go from there
[06:01] <slavik> tonyyarusso: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man8/apt-get.8.html
[06:01] <Azunai> tritium, no its a .run file as far as im aware
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> tritium, I thought the repos one wasn't working, only to later find out that it was the program I was testing it with, and now I'm a little suspicious about another problem, since it's the only thing I changed.
[06:02] <rjordan> Azunai, that would defeat the purpose of the task. the idea is to gain the experience of doing it. sometimes multiple times.
[06:02] <slavik> scroll down to '--force-yes'
[06:02] <jbzz> StarKruz1:    You simply want to attach two additional hard drives?
[06:02] <tonyyarusso> Thanks slavik.
[06:02] <slavik> I think youa re looking for that
[06:02] <Hentai^XPwork> Azunai what bugs exactly in windows?
[06:02] <Azunai> rjordan, i havnt got a printer anymore so i cant print the instalation manual man
[06:02] <PuppiesOnAcid> Is it possible to load songs onto an iPod from rhythmbox?
[06:02] <slavik> tonyyarusso: what does apt-get say when you try to install the stuff from the repo?
[06:02] <tritium> tonyyarusso, it's best not to install non-ubuntu packages
[06:02] <vultaire> holy_cow: you're right, I left that one wide open...  I'm trying to find resources that'll teach me the basics of using gcc to compile c++ apps
[06:02] <StarKruz1> jbzz: yup.
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Reinstallation of xorg-driver-fglrx is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[06:03] <slavik> tritium: he wants to revert the gfx driver from the ati one to the one in repository
[06:03] <vultaire> holy_cow: and I am searching google, just was hoping someone knew of a good resource off hand
[06:03] <StarKruz1> but I want to make the space in them accessible to, for example, the /home and /var/www partitions.
[06:03] <soap> i've a problem on mysql
[06:03] <tritium> slavik, I know
[06:03] <jbzz> StarKruz1:   Have you added hard drives to your system in the past?
[06:03] <slavik> k
[06:03] <tonyyarusso> tritium, Yeah, yeah...
[06:03] <rjordan> Azunai, the entire gentoo handbook is on the livecd. it prints what you have to type to access it when it boots.
[06:03] <StarKruz1> jbzz: not under Linux.
[06:03] <slavik> tonyyarusso: maybe something with the package file is messed up?
[06:03] <jbzz> StarKruz1:  But under some other operating system?
[06:03] <holy_cow> vultaire, well generally you get an app, uncompress it to a folder, do ./configure, make, mainstall and your done
[06:03] <StarKruz1> sure.
[06:03] <StarKruz1> Windows.
[06:03] <soap> any one can help me
[06:03] <holy_cow> google those commands :)
[06:03] <tritium> tonyyarusso, I'm just telling you.  So if you install some .run from ati.com, you get to fix your system when it breaks
[06:04] <galgoz> slavik: There is only 1 program which provides x-www-browser
[06:04] <galgoz> (/usr/bin/mozilla-firefox). Nothing to configure.
[06:04] <StarKruz1> Windows doesn't have the functionality I'm looking for, but I suspect Linux does because of the md subsystem.
[06:04] <holy_cow> makeinstall even (i think, been a while since i had to compile anything)
[06:04] <jbzz> StarKruz1:  OK.  Well do yoiu have enough open connectors for the hard drives?
[06:04] <menkent> anyone have a link to a good FAQ on installing printers when the wizard fails to get things working (in breezy)?
[06:04] <vultaire> holy_cow: I know that and I've done that, but I don't want to just compile from source: I want to write my own apps
[06:04] <StarKruz1> jbzz: this isn't a hardware question :)
[06:04] <slavik> galgoz: try installing mozilla or some other browser and set that as default, the set firefox as default again ...
[06:04] <soap> Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[06:04] <soap> bash: syntax error near unexpected token `('
[06:04] <soap> soap@2ndSpace:/etc$ Check that mysqld is running and that the socket: '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' exists!
[06:04] <soap> bash: Check: command not found
[06:04] <soap> soap@2ndSpace:/etc$
[06:04] <StarKruz1> I know how to connect new drives to my system
[06:04] <tritium> soap, don't paste
[06:04] <galgoz> slavik: will do
[06:04] <slavik> that is the thing I was hinting at (badly)
[06:04] <StarKruz1> !tell soap about pastebin
[06:04] <jbzz> StarKruz1:  Then you want to know how to mount volumes that are already attached?
[06:05] <slavik> galgoz: things like that can happen in windows ... sometimes programs request a special browser instead of the default one
[06:05] <Azunai> Hentai^XPwork, apart from the entire registry filing system is a joke the security of the os there isnt one its ability to spike cpu usage for no aparent reason the way that it handles cab files, the way that the /temp dir is "suppost" to work yet doesnt and another thing i can think of off the top of my head is the way that windows utalizes ram very interesting its not doing anything yet
[06:05] <Azunai> u still get 350mb of ram been used
[06:05] <Azunai> the entire os is a joke
[06:05] <StarKruz1> jbzz: I want to know how to add new drives to my existing filesystem such that they appear to be one seamless volume of storage.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> slavik, I don't think so, I think it's because it's confused by the version number / markings of where it's coming from.
[06:05] <Azunai> as i previoisly said Bill gates can stick his eula up his arse!
[06:05] <StarKruz1> software raid on the fly, if you will.
[06:05] <tonyyarusso> slavik, --force-yes didn't change anything.
[06:06] <jbzz> StarKruz1:   Do you know about the command named      mount       ?
[06:06] <CanYouHelpMePlz> Azunai: you go girl!
[06:06] <tritium> StarKruz1, you probably want to use LVM
[06:06] <slavik> tonyyarusso: I am out of options ...
[06:06] <galgoz> slavik: I am not using windows???
[06:06] <TheBeast> uniting nations is so gay
[06:06] <slavik> galgoz: scroll down more
[06:06] <tonyyarusso> slavik, If I download the repos .deb separately, dpkg -i always overwrites, true?
[06:06] <StarKruz1> tritium: do tell.
[06:06] <slavik> they have linux and osx even :)
[06:06] <TheBeast> "out of touch" is really..
[06:06] <tritium> tonyyarusso, which version of the driver does apt-get think you have installed?
[06:06] <holy_cow> ah, vultaire in that case i won't be able to give you any pertinent information the answer requires it to be task specific.  your using c++, in which case probably you will either be using gtkmm or qt (gnome or kde tookits) for the project.  once you choose which of those you will use the rest of the answer is fairly simple i think
[06:06] <Azunai> rjordan, but the point is simple once the os is actualy installed i cannot get the x server to work no matter what i do
[06:06] <StarKruz1> I believe the Linux Volume Manager starts at boot.
[06:06] <slavik> tonyyarusso: I am not familiar with dpckg, sorry.
[06:06] <galgoz> slavik: I went to the end
[06:06] <holy_cow> vultaire, sorry for the non answer, best i can do
[06:06] <pussfeller> menkent: try gong to http://0.0.0.0:631 and adding a printer that way
[06:06] <tritium> StarKruz1, I've not used it.  I suggest you read the howto on tldp.org
[06:07] <tonyyarusso> tritium, 8.21.7-0
[06:07] <holy_cow> Azunai, what vid card?
[06:07] <nanotube> hey all. is it just me, or is ubuntuforums down?
[06:07] <rjordan> Azunai, using which driver? the fglrx? (ati-driver)
[06:07] <Azunai> read up on Windows Vista now that made me piss myself when i read what they have done
[06:07] <cafuego> pussfeller: 127.0.0.1 you mean?
[06:07] <bimberi> !forumsdown
[06:07] <ubotu> ubuntuforums should be back up at about 23/1/2006 5am UTC
[06:07] <rjordan> Azunai, just use ati for the time being.
[06:07] <phiber_optic> can somebody PLEASE HELP ME WITH GTKgnutella please
[06:07] <nanotube> thanks bimberi :)
[06:07] <slavik> galgoz: I will pm you, the passage, ok?
[06:07] <tritium> tonyyarusso, please run "apt-cache policy xorg-driver-fglrx"
[06:07] <Azunai> rjordan, the emerge -ati-driver
[06:07] <vultaire> holy_cow: hey, thanks, I appreciate what you could answer with =)
[06:07] <bimberi> nanotube: yw :)
[06:07] <slavik> phiber_optic: read the docs on how to get connected ...
[06:07] <galgoz> slavik: sure
[06:07] <Azunai> holy_cow, Ati X850XT PE
[06:07] <Uraeu> hi guys
[06:07] <rjordan> Azunai, did you ask in #gentoo
[06:07] <phiber_optic> i read but it doesnt say
[06:07] <holy_cow> Azunai, so how far did you get with the driver install info on the wiki?
[06:08] <Azunai> rjordan, couldnt install irc client
[06:08] <tritium> Azunai, which driver are you installing?
[06:08] <menkent> pussfeller, it won't let me log in... just keeps asking for username/pass over and over and over...
[06:08] <rjordan> emerge bitchx
[06:08] <Azunai> tritium, the one of the ati site?
[06:08] <steve_laptop> is it me or is ubuntu forum down .org
[06:08] <Azunai> holy
[06:08] <pussfeller> menkent: i forgot ubuntu disables that by default
[06:08] <cafuego> Why can't people read the topic?
[06:08] <tritium> Azunai, I wouldn't do that.  Please use the ubuntu fglrx packages instead.
[06:08] <Azunai> holy_cow, i downloaded the one from the ati site and followed the instructions exactly as they said
[06:08] <holy_cow> ah forget it, i won't help you with that
[06:09] <holy_cow> use the ones from the repo
[06:09] <Uraeu> guys, where can i get ddd debbuger for ubuntu
[06:09] <Azunai> tritium, dont i have to uninstall the ones i have???
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> tritium, That's what I just did.  8.21.7-0.  And it shows two repos options, security restricted and regular restricted, 6.8.0-8.16.20.
[06:09] <holy_cow> downloading from ati, you should know that ati makes shit drivers even for windows
[06:09] <menkent> yer, ubuntu seems to have disabled quite a bit by default. i haven't had any luck finding faqs to get around such problems
[06:09] <tritium> tonyyarusso, you got that .deb from ati.com?
[06:09] <bimberi> Uraeu: it's in the universe repository ...
[06:09] <bimberi> ubotu tell Uraeu about universe
[06:09] <tritium> Azunai, you should, yes.
[06:09] <tritium> !tell Azunai about ati
[06:09] <tonyyarusso> tritium, Correct.  As part of the .run that creates for various distros.
[06:09] <bimberi> ubotu tell steve_laptop about forumsdown
[06:09] <pussfeller> menkent: what is the specific error you are getting? are you using the right drivers?
[06:10] <Azunai> holy_cow, yeh but in windows i just use the Saphire drivers (the manufactor of the card :)
[06:10] <tritium> tonyyarusso, and why can't you simply purge that package, and then reinstall from the repo:
[06:10] <Uraeu> how do i add it to my repository ?
[06:10] <holy_cow> i don't care, you are at fault for buying a shit card, from a shit company, that makes shit drivers
[06:10] <pussfeller> menkent: you might try linuxprinting.org to find which drivers you need if ubuntu cant autodetict it
[06:10] <slavik> holy_cow: the market would disagree with you
[06:10] <holy_cow> go use windows then :) it will make your life easier with such crappy hardware
[06:10] <steve_laptop> bimberi, thanks
[06:10] <Azunai> tritium, yeah one of them sites i followed the instructions exactly so i guesse im gunna have to do the other one
[06:10] <menkent> yea, using the right driver. no error at all really, just nothing comes out of the printer. it detects fine and i click "print test page" but nothing happens
[06:10] <bimberi> steve_laptop: yw :)
[06:10] <DarkSenay> How do you use the alien command for .rpm files in ubuntu
[06:10] <slavik> since ati and nvidia have close to 50% each in the desktop graphics market
[06:10] <tonyyarusso> tritium, Because errors are encountered when processing it.
[06:11] <Azunai> tritium, but dont i have to unistall the ones in installed first?
[06:11] <pussfeller> holy_cow: thats not a real helpful answer
[06:11] <holy_cow> slavik, market share is not indicative of quality
[06:11] <tritium> Azunai, I would highly recommend it.
[06:11] <slavik> holy_cow: I would diagree.
[06:11] <slavik> pussfeller: what was your question?
[06:11] <Azunai> rjordan, i couldnt access irc man it let me download eveerything i needed but i got connection blocked when attempting to access an irc server
[06:11] <holy_cow> pussfeller, indeed it is.
[06:11] <Azunai> tritium, how do i uninstall them?
[06:11] <tonyyarusso> tritium, With dpkg-divert.
[06:11] <pussfeller> slavik: i have no questions
[06:11] <slavik> k
[06:12] <phiber_optic> nobody wants to help me
[06:12] <phiber_optic> :(
[06:12] <Azunai> u guys are linux pro's whats better Gnome unbuntu or KDE unbuntu?
[06:12] <tritium> Azunai, sorry, ati.com downloads aren't really the topic of support here
[06:12] <holy_cow> phiber_optic, maybe no one is around that knows the answer to your question, hang in there
[06:12] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, Personal preference.  I like Gnome.
[06:12] <Azunai> tritium, so what do i do?
[06:12] <slavik> Azunai: If you ask Linus, he will say KDE
[06:12] <aranis> Azunai: your choice.
[06:12] <holy_cow> Azunai, dumb question, its like asking what is better, vanilla or chocolate.  use what you like
[06:12] <phiber_optic> most people i think they use gnutella
[06:12] <galgoz> azunai, I like the look of gnome better
[06:12] <phiber_optic> and cannot help me
[06:12] <Toma-> Azunai, same poo, different smell :)
[06:12] <aranis> i like xfce :-)
[06:13] <Azunai> ok then whats faster performance wise?
[06:13] <slavik> phiber_optic: have you read the docs or used google to find out how to connect?
[06:13] <holy_cow> Azunai, same
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Azunai, xfce.
[06:13] <thechris> Azunai: i would try out both.  i have issues with GTK+ apps.
[06:13] <phiber_optic> yeah
[06:13] <galgoz> azunai, I hear windowmaker is faster
[06:13] <slavik> 0 nodes means you aren't connected to anything ...
[06:13] <phiber_optic> But I dont find anything
[06:13] <rjordan> phiber_optic, that's right! noone wants to help because you seem to be incapable of following instruction!
[06:13] <Toma-> Azunai, both are pretty big and heavy. both are quick if you chop alot of stuff out of them tho
[06:13] <JDigital> I like Gnome but I'm not a huge fan of Nautilus
[06:13] <tritium> Azunai, does ati.com have instructions on how to uninstall?
[06:13] <slavik> I tried xfce ... it isn't for me ... at least yet
[06:13] <thechris> i like xfce's look, but ended up using KDE and configuring it to look like xfce
[06:13] <Toma-> galgoz, what about twm >_>
[06:13] <slavik> Apple needs to release the source code for their OSX GUI
[06:13] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, Such as?  (To chop out.)
[06:14] <Azunai> tritium, no they dont have instructions on how to install i followed the wiki guide on drivers from ATI site
[06:14] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, nautilus :D
[06:14] <galgoz> toma, no idea, haven't tried it, just repeating what I have read :)
[06:14] <MickMcMack> slavik, just look at Enlightenment. ;-)
[06:14] <holy_cow> slavik, oh god not, not that mosntrosity!
[06:14] <Toma-> hehe
[06:14] <holy_cow> :)
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, I see.
[06:14] <tonyyarusso> Toma-, In favor of?
[06:14] <Azunai> tritium, but seen as those drivers dont work is it really a nessesity to unsintal them?
[06:14] <tritium> Azunai, next time, follow the ubuntu wiki site, and install ubuntu packages.  It'll be much less painfull.
[06:14] <Azunai> tritium, i can try :P
[06:14] <menkent> ok, the only error i can half-way find is that now when i go into the printer's options it says under Status "Printing: Printer off-line."
[06:14] <slavik> MickMcMack: I tried it once ... didn't like at the time ... was long time ago ... although I heard that it was very nice ...
[06:14] <tritium> go for it, Azunai
[06:15] <Azunai> tritium, on my way :(
[06:15] <Toma-> tonyyarusso, i guess if you replace metacity with say, something lighter, you could get a nice boost. replace nautalis with rox-filer :D
[06:15] <galgoz> slavik, I did a google search on creating a symlink for firefox 1.5 and it is on the ubuntu forums :) guess I will find the answer when the forums are back up
[06:15] <pussfeller> menkent: you wight try doing a tail -f /var/log/cups/error_log
[06:15] <slavik> galgoz: you are using badger?
[06:15] <slavik> galgoz: did you set up  1.5 the same way as in the wiki guide?
[06:15] <Toma-> im running xfce on a 266 right now, im gonna try getting rid of alot of the slow-downs and get initng to get it quick
[06:16] <Kevman_> Has anyone ever tried to install Java on PPC?
[06:16] <galgoz> slavik: automaix set up my firefox
[06:16] <slavik> 1.5?
[06:16] <slavik> on badger?
[06:16] <galgoz> slavik: yeah, on ubuntu 5.10
[06:16] <holy_cow> Toma-, in all honesty, its cheaper to just get a new system for 300$.  that would include a 64 bit cpu as well
[06:16] <galgoz> slavik: did I break it heheh :)
[06:16] <holy_cow> :)
[06:16] <Azunai>  The model of the card is in the 9xxx series, 9500 or higer. Or it is in the X series (eg X300) i take it that means i can use these drivers for an X850 XT PE card?
[06:16] <menkent> I [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/pstops (PID 1 0875) for job 6.
[06:16] <menkent> I [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started filter /usr/lib/cups/filter/foomatic-rip (PID 10876) for job 6.
[06:16] <menkent> I [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  Started backend /usr/lib/cups/backend/usb (PID 10 877) for job 6.
[06:16] <menkent> W [22/Jan/2006:23:12:21 -0600]  [Job 6]  Printer off-line.
[06:16] <slavik> galgoz: no clue
[06:17] <Tired_> Hello.  A friend of mine asked me to install Linux for dual-booting, just to see what the fuss is about.  I have a 2.5 GB partition available.  Will Ubuntu work well in that little space?
[06:17] <slavik> on vmware, I used the wiki guide ... didn't notice any problems
[06:17] <tritium> menkent, no pasting please
[06:17] <tonyyarusso> !tell menkent about paste
[06:17] <menkent> phew, i figured the channel would kill me for spamming with that yea yea
[06:17] <galgoz> slavik: no worries, like I said, according to my google search the answer is on the forums and they will be back up soon
[06:17] <slavik> also, for the ati install guide: https://a248.e.akamai.net/f/674/9206/0/www2.ati.com/drivers/linux/linux_8.21.7-inst.html
[06:17] <Toma-> holy_cow, i know :D its only a temporary solution till i get the cash for an uber-system. after that, ill give this to my g/f as a media centre so she can watch dvds + copy them to the hdd and so on
[06:17] <holy_cow> Tired_, why bother ... download the trial for vmware for them and install it on that
[06:17] <jbzz> How would I make a Ubuntu user belong to more than one group?  I do not see a way to set that in 'Users and Groups'.
[06:17] <slavik> galgoz: did you try the google cache file?
[06:17] <galgoz> slavik: no, good idea
[06:17] <Tired_> cuz I wasn't asked to do that.  :/
[06:17] <TheBeast> Tired_ get the livecd
[06:17] <holy_cow> Tired_, if they are looking at 'what the fuss is about' you can just wipe vmware off their system after 30 days
[06:17] <TheBeast> burn and release teh power
[06:18] <tritium> jbzz, you can use the adduser command, for one
[06:18] <pussfeller> menkent: if its not offline, and its not a usb hub problem, or a driver problem, I don't know, I wish i did
[06:18] <nanotube> Azunai: did you see this link: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[06:18] <nanotube> azunai: it says that it is ok to use the drivers from ati.com...
[06:18] <jbzz> tritium:  I will investigate.  Thanks.
[06:18] <Tired_> I have the live cd, but that wasn't what i asked.
[06:18] <tritium> jbzz, the manpage gives simple instructions on how to use it
[06:18] <slavik> how do I get to the web admin for ubuntu?
[06:18] <slavik> they need to make the wiki search box easier to get
[06:18] <jbzz> tritium:  Roger that.  Thanks.
[06:18] <holy_cow> Tired_, your going to hose his system getting it to dual boot, its the wrong approach 'to see what the fuss is about'
[06:19] <Azunai> nanotube, yeh i already installed them and they dont work on my card :(
[06:19] <slavik> and make the doc links more straight forward
[06:19] <tonyyarusso> Back to repos' fglrx!  (dpkg -i worked)
[06:19] <menkent> thx for the try. i'm too annoyed to mess with it more tonight. everything i find online says to mess with it in CUPS, which ubuntu won't let me do.
[06:19] <Kevman_> I'm installing Java from the IBM SDK. Running ./Java from its install point works, but after I do the alternatives stuff, I get a Java: command not found error trying to run it. Help?
[06:19] <Azunai> ok on this Wiki guide it says update the kernal should i or should i skip that?
[06:19] <nanotube> Tired_: 2.5 gb is quite enough to install ubuntu on.
[06:19] <tritium> how goes it, cafuego?
[06:19] <Tired_> Thank you nanotube.  :)
[06:19] <nanotube> tired_: just dont get too happy installing a bunch of large packages
[06:20] <Azunai> ok on this Wiki guide it says update the kernal should i or should i skip that?
[06:20] <nanotube> tired_: and of course, be careful and make sure you know what you are doing :)
[06:20] <Tired_> no, i was thinking just basic desktop stuff like firefox, gaim, etc
[06:20] <TheBeast> did anyone got a soulseek client to work on linux?
[06:20] <eli> anyone here know how to change the resolution on fglrx for ati after installation?
[06:21] <nanotube> tired_: firefox, gaim, etc all come with the default install. so seems that you should be ok. :)
[06:21] <Azunai> TheBeast, were u from mate?
[06:21] <eli> i have a widescreen and it is showing by default another resolution
[06:21] <tritium> !tell eli about resolution
[06:21] <TheBeast> Azunai Earth?
[06:21] <Tired_> sweet.  I've heard ATI drivers for Linux are kinda rough...the system has an old 3D Rage Pro...is that old enough to have decent linux support?
[06:21] <TheBeast> you can find good music on slsk
[06:22] <Azunai> TheBeast, lol
[06:22] <holy_cow> eli, before you can change resolution, you haveto have the proper refresh rates in your /ect/X11/xorg.conf file.  look up your monitore on the net for vertical and horizonal refresh rates, and google xorg.conf to know where to put them in.  after that restart x and you will be able to change reso from system/preferences/screen resolution
[06:22] <plastik> anyone aware of a website with perhaps a idiots guide to linux and/or ubuntu?
[06:22] <eli> thanks tritium and holy_cow
[06:22] <nanotube> tired_: i dont know specifically for that card... but chances are good. :) you could always test it out booting from a livecd, before installing to the hd, to make sure all the hardware you care about is supported.
[06:22] <prof> hi, i was wondering if anyone could help me with a resolution problem. i have a radeon 9600, and a widescreen LCD. the resolution on the LCD won't go above 1024x768, but when i ran fglrx-config i included other resolutions. I'm doing dual monitors and the other monitor is able to go to 1280x1024, but again, i included higher ones in my setup.
[06:22] <thechris> plastik: tldp.org <-- read advanced guide to bash.  because its cool.
[06:22] <galgoz> plastik: I am wanting to create that website
[06:23] <holy_cow> plastik, no such thing.  learning linux is task oriented.  pick what you are trying to do and google / irc / wiki.ubuntu.org your ass off.  remember your not just installing ubuntu you are upgrading your skills
[06:23] <galgoz> plastik: http://www.mygnuworld.org
[06:23] <Toma-> anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before?
[06:23] <gbleem> forums are down. I thought I would try this.
[06:23] <Azunai> right according to the wiki file ive just installed the ubunutu ati drivers i bet this doesnt work and i copied and pasted every command!
[06:23] <heqq> who can tell me the "system monitor" is belong to which packages?thanks
[06:24] <plastik> thanks for the answers I'll look into them
[06:24] <tritium> heqq, gnome-applets
[06:24] <Azunai> right il brb when ive rebooted and then rededited my xorg.conf file to bloody ati again cus x didnt load :S brb
[06:24] <holy_cow> heqq, its in the default install, its just an applet.  right click on the panel, add applet, select system monitor
[06:25] <adub> is there commands to let you know your processor and ram
[06:25] <heqq> thanks tritium
[06:25] <bshumate> !funky
[06:25] <ubotu> it has been said that funky is Get up,  (git awn up),   Get up,  (git awn up),  Stay on the scene (git awn up)..... like an ubuntu machine,  (git awn up). yeah granddaddy of funk :] 
[06:25] <holy_cow> that azunai kid is a bit think, *sigh*
[06:25] <nanotube> heqq: there is a package called 'gnome-system-monitor'
[06:25] <holy_cow> thick even
[06:25] <frogzoo> adub, cat /proc/cpu etc
[06:25] <Dr_Willis> holy_cow,  :P
[06:25] <psusi> omfg, roflmfao
[06:26] <nanotube> heqq: holy_cow speaks true - it is in the default install, so you really shouldnt have to install it manually.
[06:26] <irvin> !easysource
[06:26] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[06:26] <psusi> toejam and earl style
[06:26] <Tired_> nanotube -> good idea, I hadn't thought of that.  Thanks a lot for the straight answers  :)
[06:26] <prof> is it possible to have dual monitors work in linux as they do in windows? i can get 2 desktops, but i can't drag things between the monitors. and i can get 1 long destop, but i can't maximize a program to one monitor...
[06:26] <cr1mson> How do I add a command line when booting ubuntu?
[06:26] <heqq> i want to know the package if i report the defect
[06:26] <nanotube> tired_: no prob. i am a newbie to ubuntu myself (3 weeks), though ive done a bunch of other *nix stuff before, so i had the same questions as you :)
[06:27] <TheBeast> what's this fashion with 2 monitors?
[06:27] <holy_cow> prof, very easy i do it all the time.  prof the only catch is we don't really have a gui to set it up.  you have to do it manually via command line.
[06:27] <adub> frogzoo command not doing the trick
[06:27] <TheBeast> it's stupid to have something between your displays
[06:27] <TheBeast> :)
[06:27] <prof> i like to be able to drag things back and forth, thebeast
[06:27] <Tired_> ;)  well, when I become less of a newb, I'll be sure to come back and return the favour to another newbie.
[06:27] <TheBeast> I understand
[06:28] <holy_cow> prof, the general idea is buy a dual head card (easiest to setup), make sure its nvidia, use nvidia dual head thing not xinerama, go to wiki.ubuntulinux.org site and find the dual head setup it is by far the easiest setup info you will find anywhere
[06:28] <frogzoo> prof, yes, it can be done - you'll need to tweak xorg.conf
[06:28] <tonyyarusso> This is kind of weird.  Ubuntu is picking up users so fast sometimes I feel like I've been using it a long time hearing other people's times.  (Definitely not the case.)
[06:28] <prof> i have a radeon 9600, holy_cow
[06:28] <prof> i have the 2 seperate desktops working right now
[06:28] <Genel> hello!! ^_^
[06:28] <holy_cow> prof, *ugh* strongly urge you to ditch it, i don't know how that will handle dual head
[06:29] <irvin> can anyone pls give me the link of seveas repos? thanks
[06:29] <prof> got it for $20 ;)
[06:29] <irvin> Seveas: ping?
[06:29] <holy_cow> maybe someone here has setup dual head on ati, prof sorry not sure about ati
[06:29] <prof> no problem, thanks anyway
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> !tell irvin about seveas
[06:29] <Genel> amm.. i have a problem with my Ubuntu installation.. can someone help me?.. =$
[06:29] <frogzoo> prof, just google 'dual head ati' - should do
[06:29] <tonyyarusso> irvin, Thar ya go.
[06:29] <holy_cow> prof, try my steps anyway, theyshould help you dig up the info
[06:30] <irvin> thanks tonyyarusso
[06:30] <johndarkhorse> Genel: if you ask a question, someone will answer
[06:30] <slavik> Genel: we'd try ... but we don't know what you want
[06:30] <Genel> 0k.. what is IRQ?
[06:30] <holy_cow> prof, what frogzoo said, i have been reading this chan for last 1 hour and EVERY SINGLE question could easily be googled :)
[06:30] <borisattva> i did a succesfull mount of a network drive, but when i browse it via the point at /mnt/sharedfolder all files that are named with accented characters become converted to regular and inaccessible. while if i browse the same folder via network there are no problems... is there something i have to specify in the fstab for it to mount with full character support?
[06:30] <frogzoo> Genel, the point is, asking for help just wastes b/w - just ask your question
[06:30] <rixth> How can I log someone off?
[06:30] <rixth> They are logged on to localhost
[06:30] <frogzoo> holy_cow, snap!!
[06:30] <prof> yeah, i've been trying. so many similar, but not quite the same, questions get in the way =)
[06:30] <Genel> the installation says that.. i have a wrong IRQ.. or something like that
[06:31] <Genel> how can i fix it?.. =\
[06:31] <slavik> Genel: a 'wrong' IRQ can quite possibly be very bad ...
[06:31] <gbleem> are other people having problems with ubuntu forums?
[06:31] <slavik> or very minor.
[06:31] <slavik> Can you report the entire error?
[06:31] <tonyyarusso> I don't remember my installation experience, so for a turn of role, this is for the brand-new users to answer probably: How did you figure out where to go for help right of the bat?  Did something tell you the first time you booted up?
[06:31] <borisattva> gbleem: i think theyve exceeded this user connections.
[06:31] <prof> no
[06:31] <slavik> There are many things that can happen with IRQs
[06:31] <Genel> i think that's all =\
[06:31] <holy_cow> Genel, move one of your cards to another slot :) that is the usual reason, but not always
[06:32] <Genel> how can i fix it?
[06:32] <borisattva> maximum pc an many othe rpublications did article son them so they are flooded with newbs
[06:32] <prof> i just opened up x-chat and connected to the ubuntu server and this room popped up automatically
[06:32] <Genel> .o
[06:32] <Genel> :o
[06:32] <slavik> Genel, you need to be sure ...
[06:32] <gnudreamer> how do i figure out what kernel version I am using?
[06:32] <holy_cow> borisattva, the did an article on ubuntu?
[06:32] <prof> all of the few distros i've used have all been similar as far as their help chat
[06:32] <sethk> gnudreamer, uname -a
[06:32] <tritium> gnudreamer, uname -r
[06:32] <rixth> gnudreamer, uname -a
[06:32] <Genel> that's all!..
[06:32] <slavik> gnudreamer: badger uses the 2.16.12
[06:32] <frogzoo> Genel, you can pass the irqs to the driver from /etc/modprobe.d
[06:32] <holy_cow> your kidding ... those windows blowholes did an article on linux?
[06:32] <holy_cow> wow
[06:32] <slavik> I think
[06:32] <Genel> the wrong IRQ
[06:32] <borisattva> holy_cow: i dont think irq can be switched by changing the slot, you probably have to change a jumper setting of a sort to change the peripherals IRQ settings
[06:32] <tritium> !your
[06:32] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, tritium
[06:33] <slavik> borisattva: it can, but depends on the system
[06:33] <borisattva> holy_cow: yeah on their website about the ease of install
[06:33] <slavik> in a modern system, all PCI cards must be able to share IRQs ...
[06:33] <gnudreamer> does anyone have a link on how to install  driver from a tar.gz package?
[06:33] <holy_cow> borisattva, depends on the mother board, no mother boards have irq's anymore except really really really cheap ones, usually irq's are manually assigned by bios
[06:33] <sethk> borisattva, that isn't quite true, at least for PCI devices.  PCI devices are scanned sequentially and the IRQs assigned automatically.  So moving to a different slot can indeed change the IRQ
[06:33] <slavik> in old ISA/PCI system, you could set the IRQ on the card itself (I have some card with jumpers for that)
[06:33] <Toma-> anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before? im getting a hard lockup with my system when its inserted
[06:33] <sethk> borisattva, plus, there is no other way to change it, other than using the BIOS if it has those features
[06:33] <holy_cow> what sethk said, infact almost all pci mobos do this
[06:34] <borisattva> thanks :) learned something.. (i left the pc scene in the late 90s, so my knowledge is ISA age)
[06:34] <sethk> slavik, that's quite true of isa
[06:34] <slavik> sethk: sometimes the BIOS isn't asked ...
[06:34] <tonyyarusso> prof, So you had to know to use XChat first?
[06:34] <holy_cow> right and even overclocking these days is done via bios, no mobos have dip switches
[06:34] <prof> yeah. it's labeled "XChat IRC" so if you know you can get help on IRC, you should be able to figure it out
[06:34] <sethk> slavik, true, nevertheless, the pci bus is scanned sequentially, regardless of whether the bios or the os does the scanning
[06:34] <slavik> sethk: I know that Window's HAL can assign an IRQ of 23 or some such ...
[06:34] <tritium> gnudreamer, which driver?  You might not need to go through the trouble
[06:34] <slavik> sethk: I wouldn't know that.
[06:34] <holy_cow> borisattva, dude, i stopped reading this channel two weeks ago, i can't believe how many newbs have flooded in here for example ... things change instantly i guess :)
[06:34] <sethk> slavik, most processors don't even have an IRQ of 23
[06:34] <gnudreamer> bttv
[06:35] <tritium> gnudreamer, that's already supported
[06:35] <ninja> anyone else running dapper got a laggy mouse in xorg?
[06:35] <slavik> sethk: that was my point.
[06:35] <tritium> gnudreamer, modinfo bttv
[06:35] <tonyyarusso> prof, Well, that's something.  But a lot of people I talk to have never heard of IRC.
[06:35] <slavik> sethk: I believe the highest is 15 (0-15)
[06:35] <prof> true
[06:35] <slavik> the Window's HAL reassigns them
[06:35] <pablo928> holy_cow: I have a recent Asus mb that has dip switches.
[06:35] <kred> anyone know whats up with the english ubuntu forums?
[06:35] <prof> lot of people haven't heard of linux, either ;)
[06:35] <borisattva> holy_coq: yep.. i feel bad for the forum host, i can only imagine the load the server is going through. hopefully they'll bring it back up. its such a good search reference
[06:36] <galgoz> slavik: my browser issue is fixed, thanks
[06:36] <holy_cow> ninja, dapper has been undergoing majour xorg work recently, just wait and keep dist-upgrading ... also file / search bugs.  irc is not the best place for DEVELOPMENT release questions to be honest
[06:36] <gnudreamer> when a run the lshw command my tv card reads as unclaimed
[06:36] <holy_cow> pablo928, wow, go figure
[06:36] <slavik> galgoz: did you do what the guide said?
[06:36] <tonyyarusso> I realize it would look sort of tacky, but I kind of think it would be a good idea for the default desktop background to be instructions about the different help options (IRC, Wiki, Forums, etc.).
[06:36] <tritium> gnudreamer, is the bttv module loaded?  Are you sure your card has that chipset?
[06:36] <slavik> galgoz: even Linux is not free of problems that Windows had first. ^^
[06:36] <prof> maybe an intro thing like some other distros have, instead? includes basic functions and where to get help...
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> Or at least maybe a popup message just for the very first boot after install.
[06:37] <gnudreamer> I found references to my card (zoran chipset) in reference to bttv...
[06:37] <kred> anyone know why the ubuntu forums are down for so long?
[06:37] <gnudreamer> I doubt the mod is loaded
[06:37] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, that is indeed tacky, default desktop perhaps should have an applet that is obvious in some way with an option to permanently turn it off after first popup
[06:37] <frogzoo> server crash
[06:37] <slavik> prof: Then there are many things that need to be changed on the installation ... like making it graphical.
[06:37] <aaron> hello.
[06:37] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, That would be better.
[06:37] <quacker> All my IDE controllers are set to DMA = 0 (off) and hdparm -d1 /dev/hd# doesn't work
[06:37] <kred> do you know how long they have been down?
[06:37] <galgoz> slavik, I did the symlink stuff
[06:38] <frogzoo> quacker, man /etc/hdparm.conf
[06:38] <prof> i mean on first boot, slavik. or first log in per account
[06:38] <tritium> gnudreamer, lsmod | grep bttv to find out
[06:38] <slavik> like in the wiki page?
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> slavik, Believe it or not, I liked not having a graphical installer.
[06:38] <frogzoo> quacker, oh, & you need to be root
[06:38] <aaron> I'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?
[06:38] <quacker> frogzoo, do you know how to read?
[06:38] <galgoz> slavik, I know all OS's have their issues, I just like linux's issues more :)
[06:38] <kred> frogzoo, do you know how long they have been down?
[06:38] <borisattva> kred: i think at this point they are just rejecting connections and as such not exactly down. probablymaxed out their simultaneous limit
[06:38] <quacker> frogzoo, STFU please, I'm using a root shell
[06:38] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, That sounds about right!
[06:38] <adub> Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8    cat /proc/version gave me that information??   i thought i was running 5.10  can someone tell me what their ubuntu displays on version
[06:38] <frogzoo> quacker, no quacker, what's reading?
[06:38] <tritium> quacker, be kind, please
[06:38] <gnudreamer> I can't find a definite card and tuner setting for my card
[06:38] <pestilence> i need to update the bios on my machine, but i don't have windows or a floppy, or any of the other usual suspects to do the flashing.  any ideas?
[06:38] <gnudreamer>  lsmod | grep bttv what should that command have done?
[06:38] <frogzoo> quacker, gl with that :p
[06:39] <borisattva> if kept refreshing it every few mins and a couepl of times it went through seemingly with many posts in between so some peopel are just camping on thier connections i guess
[06:39] <galgoz> tony; plus I like the open source community and how they help each other
[06:39] <slavik> galgoz: I don't ... because I don't know how to fix them. :(
[06:39] <kred> borisattva, ah thx just been trying it for a couple days and still down
[06:39] <galgoz> slavik: you just did
[06:39] <slavik> like which script the $PATH gets set ...
[06:39] <galgoz> slavik: google the problem and find the solution
[06:39] <prof> so would anyone have any idea why my LCD resolution will only allow me to set it at 1024x768 while my CRT monitor can go to 1280x1024, when i have them both set up in my xorg.conf to take 1600x1200 and they are both capable of it?
[06:39] <tritium> gnudreamer, if it returned nothing, the bttv module is not loaded
[06:39] <quacker> Anyone *else* know of a reason why IDE hosts will ignore hdparm?
[06:39] <gnudreamer> ahh
[06:39] <gnudreamer> hmmm
[06:39] <aaron> I'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, The first time I came in here I just about died...past experience with Windows phone-in tech support, and then this.  A bit of a shock.
[06:40] <cappicard> if the IDE device doesn't support the function you're trying to send it
[06:40] <hotczech> is ubuntuforums.org down or something?
[06:40] <tritium> gnudreamer, try loading it, and see how that helps (sudo modprobe bttv)
[06:40] <galgoz> tony: yeah, I was a tech support guy in the past
[06:40] <holy_cow> prof, you need the proper vertical and horizontal refresh rates for each monitor.  please google the rates for each moni and add them in the right spot in xorg.conf
[06:40] <papawiskas> yes it is hotczech
[06:40] <galgoz> tony: own my own business now
[06:40] <hotczech> thx
[06:40] <prof> ok, thanks
[06:40] <holy_cow> prof, as per last comment, easily googleable tho :) c'mon
[06:40] <windowful> How do I give a bash script permission to run as root, even if the user calling the script hasn't got root permissions?
[06:40] <prof> i'll check that
[06:40] <prof> what would you google to find that out?
[06:40] <tonyyarusso> aaron, Can you confirm that it's not just an MSN server issue?
[06:40] <papawiskas> anyone know when the forum will be returning?
[06:40] <slavik> galgoz: where do the $PATh and the $SHELL variables get set?
[06:41] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, just curious what you mean 'shock' ... how so?
[06:41] <slavik> and how do I get ksh to be emacs mode and not vi mode?
[06:41] <galgoz> slavik: in windows?
[06:41] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Nice.  I seem to end up doing tech support, but haven't figured out the part about how to get paid for it yet.
[06:41] <slavik> galgoz: on linux ...
[06:41] <aaron> tonyyarusso: I don't think it is; my friends can sign on on their non-linux boxes and there seems to be some forum traffic about this problem.
[06:41] <gordon> can anyone selse here get on to the ubuntuforums? (ubuntuforums.org).
[06:41] <galgoz> slavik: hehehe, I don't know
[06:41] <aaron> tonyyarusso: none of that helped, though.
[06:41] <robotgeek> slavik: set -o vi sets vi mode in bash, i've never used ksh
[06:41] <galgoz> slavik: I can tell you on windows
[06:42] <slavik> galgoz: I need it for linux
[06:42] <aaron> gordon: I tried today and couldn't
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, Like when a person is warmed up too fast after a brush with hypothermia.  It was a very drastic and sudden difference.  (In a good way!)
[06:42] <gnudreamer> the grep command returned info how do i check or configure the mod?
[06:42] <slavik> I think that .. and . should be included in the PATH
[06:42] <gordon> dam, what a pin...thier so usefull.
[06:42] <gordon> s/pin/pain/
[06:42] <adub> Ubuntu 3.4.4-6ubuntu8    cat /proc/version gave me that information??   i thought i was running 5.10  can someone tell me what their ubuntu displays on version
[06:42] <tonyyarusso> aaron, Well at least that rules out the easy option.  Nuts.
[06:42] <slavik> robotgeek: does that option have to be set once or every time you get a new shell?
[06:42] <nanotube> windowful: do 'chmod u+s scriptname'
[06:42] <galgoz> slavik: soory too new to linux
[06:43] <slavik> galgoz: exactly ...
[06:43] <nanotube> windowful: but consider whether you really want to do it :)
[06:43] <robotgeek> slavik: i believe you need to find such an option . i would suggest "man ksh"
[06:43] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, lol, the thing about windows is that it has a gui for almost everything and as such you can remain a retard and think you actually have some skills.  linux being wide open just doesn't have the gui automateion (just yet), so being a retard is highly costly in this community.  some day that will change tho and you will be able to click and be a retard :)
[06:43] <tonyyarusso> adub, You want cat /etc/issue.
[06:43] <slavik> robotgeek: man doesn't always work
[06:43] <holy_cow> god my spelling sucks :) heh
[06:43] <windowful> nanotube, why not?
[06:43] <gnudreamer> tritium the grep command returned info how do i check or configure the mod?
[06:43] <gordon> galgoz: use vi, learn to use it...very powerfull and universal. dont get into nano or any of that crap.
[06:43] <robotgeek> slavik: maybe ~/.kshrc
[06:44] <slavik> I was complaining about how bash is better than ksh, because it happens that bash is emacs mode by default and ksh is vi mode by default (I did not know it was possible)
[06:44] <galgoz> slavik: I did a google search on " where do the $PATh and the $SHELL variables get set in linux" and it has some interesting results
[06:44] <cafuego> !your is <reply> Your what? Did you mean 'You are'?
[06:44] <ubotu> okay, cafuego
[06:44] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, I've really enjoyed learning command line stuff too.  It's really powerful.  On that note though, have you seen the screenshots of gdebi?
[06:44] <slavik> the look from my classmates was ... "you know, you can change ksh into emacs mode instead of the vi mode" ...
[06:44] <nanotube> windowful: well, its generally considered a bad idea to run stuff as root, unless you really have to.
[06:44] <aaron> I'm running debian . . .Sarge I think and I'm having problems with MSN and GAIM. MSN gets to the "getting cookie" part of the sign on and then hangs, then reports that I've been disconnected. Any takers?
[06:44] <tritium> gnudreamer, you can configure the module by passing it parameters when it loads.  You can specify these in /etc/modules
[06:44] <slavik> galgoz: it also depends on the distro
[06:44] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, nope, what is it?
[06:45] <HwyXingFrog> Has anyone set up Azureus?
[06:45] <galgoz> slavik, which was why I was in the habit of just doing those searches on the ubuntu forums
[06:45] <nanotube> slavik: have you looked at .bashrc?
[06:45] <slavik> aaron: if I were you, I'd try a debian support channel.
[06:45] <galgoz> hwy: I use azureus
[06:45] <aaron> slavik: okay, thanks.
[06:45] <windowful> nanotube, even if it's a prewritten script that's bug free (and yes, it's short enough that I'm certain of that)
[06:45] <slavik> nanotube: first time I heard of it ... but it isn't a real problem I was having
[06:45] <galgoz> hwy: i had it installed by automatix
[06:45] <aaron> (though I think the same problem exists with gaim ubuntu)
[06:45] <HwyXingFrog> galgoz: I need to get the new java then install azureus, how do i do it?
[06:45] <holy_cow> HwyXingFrog, yeah it's just java. nothing to setup, make sure you have java installed, donwload jre and do java -jre package.jre and go
[06:46] <holy_cow> its that wimple mate
[06:46] <slavik> aaron: what version of gaim?
[06:46] <nanotube> windowful: well if you are sure its good, then its no problem. it's just "general philosophy" so as to discourage you to run everything as root. :)
[06:46] <heatxsink> anyone in here know if the fglrx driver supports multiple displays like the nvidia driver?
[06:46] <holy_cow> simple even
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, Let's you install downloaded standalone .deb packages on the desktop with dependencies taken care of by double-clicking them, like Windows click-to-install .exes.  Will be in Dapper.
[06:46] <galgoz> use synaptic package manager to install automatix
[06:46] <frogzoo> !tell HwyXingFrog about java
[06:46] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, is this a new app for ubuntu ... url?
[06:46] <robotgeek> !automatix
[06:46] <ubotu> hmm... automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[06:46] <frogzoo> !tell HwyXingFrog about azureus
[06:46] <nanotube> slavik: .bashrc in your home directory sets up a bunch of stuff in your environment, including $PATH and $SHELL...
[06:46] <galgoz> hwy: then automatix will install it
[06:46] <borisattva> w00t
[06:46] <slavik> nanotube: I want to set them globally
[06:46] <HwyXingFrog> THANKS GUYS
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, fyi, people here don't take too kindly to suggesting automatix.
[06:46] <galgoz> ubotu: is that the official ubuntu ruling on automatix
[06:46] <ubotu> No idea, galgoz
[06:46] <tonyyarusso> !automatix
[06:47] <Toma-> anyone had to deal with the cs_46xx driver before? im getting a hard lockup with my system when its inserted
[06:47] <robotgeek> slavik: also ~/.bash_profile
[06:47] <aaron> slavik: not sure. How do I find out?
[06:47] <slavik> aaron: what version of GAIM are you using?
[06:47] <windowful> windowful, ubuntu pretty well protects against THAT by not giving us a #!$@ root account
[06:47] <matt__> hi all , does anyone know the fix for apt-get removing phpmyadmin?
[06:47] <tonyyarusso> Sorry, that was redundant.
[06:47] <slavik> get the buddy list (somehow) and then help -> about
[06:47] <tritium> windowful, it's there, but disabled for security
[06:47] <slavik> if it's 1.5 ... read the topic in the gaim channel ...
[06:47] <robotgeek> matt__: apt-get remove phpmyadmin ?
[06:47] <galgoz> tony: no idea automatix was bad
[06:47] <slavik> if it's MSN, assume the server is at fault.
[06:47] <cafuego> matt__: Fix it by not removing something phpmyadmin depends on (like say php or mysql)
[06:48] <aaron> hmmm. okay.
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Try easyubuntu instead.
[06:48] <matt__> robotgeek: yeah I get errors when I try to remove it
[06:48] <galgoz> tony: I am new to ubuntu and linux and I thought automatix was part of ubuntu
[06:48] <matt__> cafuego: if I try to remove anything it depends on it wont remove either
[06:48] <robotgeek> matt__: hmm, can you paste them the pastebin?
[06:48] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, well thats a simple app, you can write that in python in no time.  all it does is automate dpkg -i packagename for you
[06:48] <galgoz> tony: easyubuntu?
[06:48] <slavik> automatix?
[06:48] <aaron> slavik: could this have something to do with being in a hotel in China and the way they have the network set up here? Maybe the local srever is refusing the cookie??
[06:48] <cafuego> matt__: Put the errors on the pastebin.
[06:48] <windowful> tritium, uh... what security do you gain by disabling root and then giving an open sudo to the user?
[06:48] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, Seems to be a common error, it's been deprecated in favor of easyubuntu.
[06:48] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, frankly its not an interesting idea to me, its needed maybe for newbs and windows users
[06:48] <tritium> !tell windowful about rootsudo
[06:48] <matt__> whats the pastebin.. sorry im new
[06:48] <cafuego> !paste
[06:48] <ubotu> paste is, like, please use http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/ or #flood to paste large amounts of text
[06:48] <gbleem> why would the root terminal in the Applications menu sometimes work and sometimes not?
[06:48] <slavik> aaron: if you're in china, you're safer not using an internet connection at all
[06:49] <galgoz> tony: can you install easyubuntu via synaptix?
[06:49] <matt__> !paste
[06:49] <frogzoo> !tell matt__  about pastebin
[06:49] <slavik> and you believe what the local gov't tells you to believe ...
[06:49] <cafuego> matt__: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[06:49] <slavik> better for your health ;)
[06:49] <galgoz> brb, going back to gnome, this blue is driving me nuts
[06:49] <aaron> slavik: ?? why is that (pardon my ignorance)
[06:49] <slavik> aaron: commies don't like 'spies' ;)
[06:49] <nanotube> slavik: check /etc/profile
[06:49] <cafuego> aaron: I think slavik has been influenced by the media a bit too much
[06:49] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, While it may not interest a lot of people who know what they're doing, it has the significance of addressing one of the key issues potential migraters have, increasing the likelihood of a switch.
[06:49] <holy_cow> slavik, one can always proxy out of chine, its not an issue frankly, the problem is them finding a proxy their govt doesn't know about
[06:50] <slavik> cafuego: sorry, was born in a commie country ...
[06:50] <Timberwolf_42> Hello
[06:50] <slavik> nanotube: I'll look into it, ty
[06:50] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, A LOT OF WORK is needed to get us to the point of being 'GUIRIFFIC' like osx or windows.  A LOT.  thats an infitesimally small bit.  but its progressing :)
[06:50] <matt__> ok i think i pasted it
[06:50] <slavik> cafuego: the one that doesn't exist
[06:50] <gnudreamer> tritium i tried zappingtviewer it crashed gnome
[06:50] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, Every little bit helps.
[06:50] <borisattva> slavik: youre forgetting bureaucracy and china is blessed with an immense population. making tracking even harder and easier for individuals to circumnavigate  all that is in their way
[06:51] <slavik> borisattva: they can do what RIAA did with their lawsuits ...
[06:51] <cafuego> Eh! Neutrons!
[06:51] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, :) that dealy is written in python too btw, even if your a newb you should be able to hack something like that together in not too long a time if there is an inclination
[06:51] <Timberwolf_42> Perhaps I'm not smart enough for this forum
[06:51] <nanotube> slavik: np
[06:51] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, dude, i'm here, everyone is smarter than me
[06:51] <holy_cow> wtf are you talking about :)
[06:51] <Timberwolf_42> lol thank you
[06:51] <borisattva> lol
[06:51] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, ask the question, honestly
[06:52] <slavik> but instead, the chinese gov't has the power to put you in jail, stick a piece of paper in front of you that says that you did bad things to them and then make you sign it
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> holy_cow, You know, one of these days I may just try to learn python.  I keep hearing about stuff that can be done with it without much trouble.
[06:52] <Timberwolf_42> I'm just pleased that I've  managed to connect here
[06:52] <robotgeek> slavik: offtopic, please?
[06:52] <slavik> then simply execute (not the software way) you
[06:52] <slavik> :)
[06:52] <slavik> sorry, robotgeek, he asked.
[06:52] <tritium> gnudreamer, sorry to hear that
[06:52] <cafuego> slavik: Dude
[06:52] <nanotube> tonyarusso: yea, python is cool. :)
[06:52] <holy_cow> tonyyarusso, its one of the easiest ways to learn programming, i'm learning it as i go
[06:52] <frogzoo> can the chinese discussion please -> #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:52] <borisattva> slavik: just as it was in the CCCP, yet people found ways.
[06:52] <slavik> haha
[06:52] <Timberwolf_42> I have no real question yet I just assumed I might  do well to sit here and absorb awhile
[06:52] <gnudreamer> ould you be able to tell me how I can look at the bttv configuration?
[06:52] <borisattva> my apologies frog
[06:52] <cafuego> Much as it is in the US, should you happen to be in Guantanamo Bay.
[06:52] <tonyyarusso> Timberwolf_42, A good strategy.
[06:52] <mint> "unable to copy user's xauthorization file"
[06:52] <tritium> please move the offtopic political discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[06:53] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, osmosis is how everyone learns, welcome
[06:53] <mint> when i go into users and groups
[06:53] <mint> anyone ?
[06:53] <nanotube> Timberwolf_42: yea, sitting around is never a bad idea. just watch out that your eyes dont glaze over from constant up-scrolling :)
[06:53] <galgoz> tony: that was easyubuntu right?
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, correct.
[06:53] <robotgeek> galgoz: check your PM's
[06:53] <gnudreamer> tritium.... im actually happy to have someone throw me a bone i've been working on this for awhile
[06:53] <galgoz> when I do a search on tht in synaptic I find nothing
[06:53] <tonyyarusso> !easyubuntu
[06:54] <robotgeek> galgoz: it's not in synpatic
[06:54] <tritium> gnudreamer, modinfo bttv lists all kinds of parameters that can be passed to the module
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> https://launchpad.net/products/easyubuntu/
[06:54] <Timberwolf_42> Point well taken nanotube
[06:54] <galgoz> apt-get install easyubuntu ?
[06:54] <matt__> nevermind.. i got it
[06:54] <plastik> is there some reason synaptic is telling me i have the lastest ver of firefox, when i know it's up to at least 1.5
[06:54] <tonyyarusso> galgoz, No, ^^.
[06:54] <slavik> galgoz: apt-get install best-os-evar
[06:54] <nanotube> !ff1.5
[06:54] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[06:54] <thewayofzen> forums been down for long?
[06:54] <nanotube> plastik: check above line
[06:55] <tritium> plastik, because 1.5 is not in the repository, so wha you have is the latest in that repo
[06:55] <slavik> plastik: 1.0.7 is latest in repos
[06:55] <robotgeek> plastik: cause you did not install it from the repos
[06:55] <gnudreamer> wow...so what kind of syntax might I use to play with parameters tritium
[06:55] <galgoz> hehehe
[06:55] <thewayofzen> (i cant connect so im assuming thats it)
[06:55] <slavik> plastik: hold on
[06:55] <slavik> plastik: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[06:55] <slavik> tells you how to install 1.5 if you want it.
[06:55] <tritium> gnudreamer, usually you don't need to fuss with any parameters, but if you must, you'd pass them when you modprobe the module, or list them alongside the module name in /etc/modules
[06:56] <funkyMiNT> "unable to copy user's xauthorization file"
[06:56] <funkyMiNT> whats with the forums
[06:56] <funkyMiNT> are they down
[06:56] <plastik> thanks
[06:56] <slavik> I think wiki pages like that should be easily accessible ...
[06:56] <nanotube> funkymint: yes, they are down.
[06:56] <bimberi> !forumsdown
[06:56] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[06:56] <windowful> tritium, This isn't about increasing security, it's about protecting yourself from stupidity.  I understand that's one of the features of "user friendly" and one of the major flaws with m$.  Still, lets call a spade a spade
[06:56] <frogzoo> tritium, /etc/modules is deprecated - use /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy
[06:56] <eli> !ati
[06:56] <ubotu> hmm... ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[06:56] <tritium> windowful, actually, there are security benefits to the sudo model
[06:57] <eli> hmm thats not going to work
[06:57] <TokenBad> what is command to view partions in ubuntu?
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> whats a good task/project for a newb in linux
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> any suggestions
[06:57] <bimberi> TokenBad: df
[06:57] <tonyyarusso> TokenBad, fdisk -l or df
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> to learn a some good stuff
[06:57] <gnudreamer> which tv viewer do you use tritium
[06:57] <eli> !fglrx
[06:57] <frogzoo> TokenBad, sudo fdisk -l
[06:57] <ubotu> well, fglrx is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto
[06:57] <nanotube> funkymint: what kind of project are you talking about?
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> ahh
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> anything
[06:57] <windowful> tritium, Except for the brute force issue, which is solved by not having a dumb password (back to stupidity) what?
[06:57] <cafuego> funkyMiNT: Do a mail merge in OpenOffice.org 2
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> i dont know what to do with ubuntu now that i have it installed
[06:57] <nanotube> !rootsudo
[06:57] <ubotu> I guess rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> i installed FF 1.5
[06:57] <TokenBad> thanks everyone
[06:57] <tritium> gnudreamer, I used tvtime and xawtv, I believe.  It was quite some time ago
[06:57] <funkyMiNT> that was interesting
[06:58] <funkyMiNT> i installed gnome-art
[06:58] <funkyMiNT> set the root pass
[06:58] <nanotube> windowful: check out that rootsudo link for a pretty decent explanation of the ubuntu sudo model.
[06:58] <Timberwolf_42> Ok Dumb question #1 Is there a default location where image files such as the background images used for ubuntu are stored?
[06:58] <anavim> !webcam
[06:58] <ubotu> I guess webcam is now easy to install, per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Webcam - webcam support soon to be available in amsn and gaim-vv.
[06:58] <gnudreamer> I will try those..mostly just playing with some hardware from my old winblows bo
[06:58] <funkyMiNT> i am getting some crazy error saying "unable to copy user's xauthorization file" when i try to go into user and groups
[06:58] <gnudreamer> box
[06:58] <tritium> funkyMiNT, punctuation in place of repetetive line feeds is always nice
[06:58] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, /usr/share/pixmaps ... /usr/share/wallpaper i think? something like that
[06:58] <nanotube> funkymint: well, its a computer... do whatever you usually do with a computer :)
[06:59] <windowful> nanotube, I just did, that's what I'm coming back from
[06:59] <cafuego> Turn it off and go for a swim. Much better for you.
[06:59] <rixth> funkyMiNT, look at the wiki page..... it mentions that
[06:59] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, in command line you can do locate wallpaper and it should give you paths that you can look into
[06:59] <nanotube> windowful: ah ic :)
[06:59] <tritium> windowful, you're definitely entitled to your opinion.  I'm not keen to argue the point.
[07:00] <RickBauer> are the forum pages down?
[07:00] <Timberwolf_42> Aha!
[07:00] <Timberwolf_42> I now have a blue background lol
[07:00] <Timberwolf_42> <-- easily amused
[07:00] <RickBauer> lol
[07:00] <bimberi> !forumsdown
[07:00] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[07:00] <DarkSenay> how do you su to root in the gui?
[07:00] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, art.gnome.org ... check out stuff in there ... check out system/preferences/theme
[07:01] <RickBauer> bimberi  ty
[07:01] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, right click on desktop, change bckgrnd ... some fun stuff
[07:01] <bimberi> RickBauer: yw :)
[07:01] <frogzoo> DarkSenay, sudo -s
[07:01] <Azunai> ok its official ive just had to completley reinstall ubuntu
[07:01] <Timberwolf_42> no no don't want to mess with the desktop
[07:01] <Timberwolf_42> Its fine
[07:01] <frogzoo> DarkSenay, but not really recd'd under x
[07:01] <Azunai> Kde screwed my entire system
[07:01] <windowful> tritium, Allow me to rephrase that as a question:  Is there any genuine security issue that sudoers helps with *other* than the brute forced password issue?
[07:01] <tritium> Azunai, that was likely not necessary
[07:01] <RickBauer> <-- ITSa341 in hiding  ( forgot my password ) thanks for the help the other night also bimberi
[07:02] <holy_cow> Azunai, rofl :)
[07:02] <DarkSenay> yeah, i need to be root in the gui
[07:02] <DarkSenay> not in term
[07:02] <bimberi> RickBauer: ah, np :)
[07:02] <cafuego> DarkSenay: yeah, 'sudo <command>' when logged in as user.
[07:02] <cafuego> DarkSenay: Works fine for X commands too.
[07:03] <cedriczg> you mean be root at nautilus?
[07:03] <Azunai> no really it was
[07:03] <Azunai> i rebooted
[07:03] <RickBauer> bimberi   I never did figure it out. Had a power failure while running fsck and ended up reloading anyway. :-(
[07:03] <nanotube> darksenay: what exactly do you wanna do as root in the gui?
[07:03] <Azunai> and my pc froze on something like Teting batery wtf us that about
[07:03] <tritium> Azunai, it likely could have been fixed without reinstall
[07:03] <Azunai> how i coulnt even get to ubunto login
[07:03] <borisattva> does anyone have a link to a good SMB/fstab guide? my eyes are bleeding from reading through inapplicable results on google
[07:03] <gnudreamer> tritium   would you mind glancing at this?
[07:03] <holy_cow> Azunai, all of that is usually an easy fix
[07:04] <gnudreamer> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7508
[07:04] <Timberwolf_42> Woo hoo
[07:04] <tritium> windowful, you'll get both sides of the argument, depending on who you ask
[07:04] <PraduK> Hi, do you guys know where I can get the x-window header files and libraries?
[07:04] <holy_cow> Azunai, it is fine to reinstall as a newb if you want to, eventually you will get to the point where morally it's imperative to be able to resolve it without a reboot/reinstall tho :)
[07:05] <windowful> tritium, I know the argument against sudo, what's the argument for sudo over su -c?  I know why sudo over su
[07:05] <tritium> PraduK, xlibs-dev
[07:05] <Azunai> holy_cow, ok but can u explain why my pc got stuck and froze on Testing Batery?? and y the hell is it testing for a batery in the first place unbutnu didnt do it only kubuntu :S
[07:05] <cafuego> Do you think you should be compiling software if you don't?
[07:05] <frogzoo> windowful, all sudo access is logged...
[07:05] <PraduK> Yes
[07:05] <RickBauer> bimberi  Some advise needed. What do you recommend for an easy to use ( backing up and restoring  LOL ) backup program? Preferably something graphical that can be automated
[07:05] <frogzoo> windowful, also, sudo has finer grain control
[07:05] <PraduK> just tell me caf
[07:06] <gnudreamer> tritium   would you mind glancing at this? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7508
[07:06] <holy_cow> Azunai, i would need a lot more info about your hardware config and overall situation, i'm assuming everything is working now and therefore its  question that cannot be answered
[07:06] <tritium> gnudreamer, I am looking at it now
[07:06] <frogzoo> RickBauer, tar will suit most tasks - but no gui
[07:06] <gnudreamer> tritium thank you
[07:06] <PraduK> I need it to compile xboard so that I can use it with my chess engine
[07:06] <RickBauer> frogzoo ty
[07:06] <tritium> gnudreamer, you're sure your card is supported by bttv?
[07:07] <PraduK> http://witz.sf.net/
[07:07] <cafuego> PraduK: Well, apt-file would be a good place to start.
[07:07] <fangorious> the homepage for gnome-bluetooth shows a context-menu in nautilus to "send via bluetooth" but I don't seem to have that, any ideas how to enable it?
[07:07] <PraduK> I tried
[07:07] <windowful> frogzoo, got it
[07:07] <PraduK> it wasn't found
[07:07] <frogzoo> RickBauer, if you want incremental backups it gets more complex
[07:07] <tritium> PraduK, I told you the package name
[07:07] <PraduK> oh
[07:07] <PraduK> let me see above
[07:07] <nanotube> rickbauer: check out the backuppc package
[07:07] <RickBauer> nanotube ty
[07:08] <gnudreamer> tritium, when i search my card on google it comes up in lists of bttv supported cards, but it never specifies which card number and tuner number it uses
[07:08] <Azunai> holy_cow,  no its only working cus i reformated and reinstalled so no kunbuntu system is amd athlon xp 3200+ ATI X850XT PE GC 3gb Kingston hyper-X ram Asus mobo 500 wat psu there was no error the machine just locked up every time i rebooted with the message Testing Batery (when its first loading all the modules in the kernel?
[07:08] <PraduK> thanks tritium I totally missed yoru IM
[07:08] <gnudreamer> aitech wavewatcher pci
[07:08] <nanotube> rickbauer: though read the web documentation before installing... its pretty heavy on the dependencies. may or may not be what you are looknig for.
[07:08] <gnudreamer> zoran chipset
[07:08] <netdur> paltalk client for gnome?
[07:08] <nanotube> rickbauer: i think its a sourceforge project. so backuppc.sf.net should take you there. if not, google :)
[07:08] <RickBauer> I'm used to ghost, goback and retrospect
[07:09] <holy_cow> Azunai, it just means that kernel module was attempting to install and probably crashed.  all you haveto do is add it to the black list in /etc and reboot and you would be good to go
[07:09] <tritium> gnudreamer, I have to get going now.   Good luck.
[07:09] <gnudreamer> thanks :)
[07:09] <tritium> good night
[07:10] <Azunai> holy_cow, how i couldnt do anything it froze before i could even get near the console login? i even tried hitting esc for grub options and all of those did hte same?
[07:10] <frogzoo> nanotube, there's a backuppc pkg for breezy - installing now
[07:10] <holy_cow> Azunai, one would enter grub and do it from there, or run a live cd and do it from there
[07:10] <nanotube> rickbauer... i dont know if there is anything ghost-like...
[07:10] <Timberwolf_42> Ok I have to register somewhere?
[07:10] <tonyyarusso> Is there an easy way to draw a keyboard map for a font?  It's ttf.  (Non-Latin characters, I need a reference.)
[07:10] <Azunai> holy_cow, i dont have the live cd :P i have the main install cd :D
[07:10] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, register for what?
[07:11] <nanotube> frogzoo: yes, i know there is a package. i was recommending he read the documentation before installing that package. but well, have fun, and let me know if you are successful setting it up. :)
[07:11] <Azunai> holy_cow, anyways apt-get install Kubuntu-Desktop for kubunti aint it?
[07:11] <Timberwolf_42> I don't know lol I tried to send a message to netdur and something cam eup in the main window about registering
[07:11] <Timberwolf_42> I saw a blip about a paltalk client?
[07:11] <holy_cow> Azunai, so what i am getting here is that you are intersted in proving that you are totally incapable of solving the problem?  i'm just suggestion options ...
[07:11] <RickBauer> nanotube  If not I'll just have to learn something else. I like to experiment and tend to break things sometimes.  LOL I'm just getting tired of haveing to start over from the beginning.
[07:12] <slavik> what can I use to sync/access my pocketpc in linux?
[07:12] <Azunai> holy_cow, im incapable of using linux at the minuite lol
[07:12] <Toma-> how do you remove a module and all its deps? eg, if rmmod returns "module in use"
[07:12] <Azunai> holy_cow, but that will change :)
[07:12] <Azunai> holy_cow, rapidly :D
[07:12] <h2theizzo> could someone help me with hosts?
[07:12] <holy_cow> Azunai, heh, so you have it solved or not?
[07:12] <nanotube> rickbauer: yea, such is life. :) for now my backup is basically burning stuff to cd once in a while. ;)
[07:12] <slavik> h2theizzo: could you state your problem?
[07:12] <h2theizzo> sure
[07:13] <Azunai> holy_cow, hell no i just reinstalled lol gunna try and install kde again apt-get install Kubuntu-Desktop right?
[07:13] <h2theizzo> www.broken-pipe.net is a registered domain
[07:13] <h2theizzo> and it points to my IP
[07:13] <holy_cow> Azunai, correct
[07:13] <h2theizzo> now my ubuntu runs apache2
[07:13] <nanotube> azunai: just stick with gnome, you will have an easier time of it!
[07:13] <slavik> Azunai: why not get the kubuntu install cd?
[07:13] <Azunai> nano really?
[07:13] <h2theizzo> but the host name is as follows, 127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost ubuntu
[07:13] <malikyo> excuse me for asking this but is grep usually a slow thing
[07:13] <slavik> h2theizzo: right
[07:13] <RickBauer> nanotube I'm learning this slowly and having trouble doing it.
[07:13] <h2theizzo> i want it to say www.broken-pipe.net
[07:14] <h2theizzo> i dunno how to change it
[07:14] <h2theizzo> and theres a catch
[07:14] <slavik> I get a 404 for that address.
[07:14] <Azunai> slavik, because when i downloaded it from unbuntu site it was only downloading at like 90kbs so i just went for the fastest download :P
[07:14] <nanotube> azunai: since you claim to have no linux experience, i would recommend gnome for you. kde is more of a "power user" interface, more difficult to use than gnome.
[07:14] <RickBauer> nanotube   but, I'm still having fun
[07:14] <holy_cow> Azunai, you have the choice of a kubuntu cd as mentioned, but in all honesty there is no difference.  its just installing a different group of packages by default
[07:14] <h2theizzo> lol well i needa update the domain
[07:14] <Azunai> nanotube, but it looks cool :D
[07:14] <slavik> Azunai: no commend then ...
[07:14] <h2theizzo> dood is sleepin that has control of it
[07:14] <gnudreamer> how does one unload a module?
[07:14] <slavik> h2theizzo: well, the hosts file should be in /etc/
[07:15] <slavik> more specifically, it should be the /etc/hosts
[07:15] <h2theizzo> ueah
[07:15] <h2theizzo> i can edit it
[07:15] <h2theizzo> but
[07:15] <Azunai> holy_cow, i just like the way kde looks and theres so many themes for kde based on films tv series etc i cant seem to find any for gdm
[07:15] <h2theizzo> ive changed it to www.broken-pipe.net
[07:15] <nanotube> azunai: though if you really insist on using kde, probably what slavik recommends about getting the kubuntu cd will be easier. (though shouldnt make a diff, since it didnt work for you before, better do the cd)
[07:15] <h2theizzo> and then the system wouldnt respond to well
[07:15] <slavik> the hosts file is only for your system ...
[07:15] <h2theizzo> yeah
[07:15] <RickBauer> Azunai  I am a newbie also and I tried the kubuntu cd on this laptop. Sure runse faster with Gnome.
[07:15] <holy_cow> Azunai, whatever you like
[07:15] <h2theizzo> thing is, that pc is on a nat
[07:15] <RickBauer> runs
[07:15] <nanotube> rickbauer: fun is the most important :) well, having a working system is pretty important too, but you know what i mean.
[07:15] <h2theizzo> so the pcs ip is 192.168.0.3
[07:15] <slavik> you want to set that url to 127.0.0.1?
[07:15] <user1> anybody can help?
[07:15] <slavik> set it to the loopback IP
[07:15] <h2theizzo> no
[07:16] <Azunai> slavik, na ur right il downlaod the kubuntu cd just incase i need it :)
[07:16] <user1> how can i install Yahoo Messenger on my ubunto?
[07:16] <Azunai> RickBauer, hmmm
[07:16] <slavik> user1: use gaim
[07:16] <h2theizzo> what?
[07:16] <user1> are they looks the same?
[07:16] <h2theizzo> hang on
[07:16] <nanotube> aaah hehe h2theizzo: then you have to configure your router to forward the port
[07:16] <slavik> yes
[07:16] <nanotube> h2theizzo: otherwise it will not work
[07:16] <h2theizzo> its already forwarded
[07:16] <user1> how can i get the gaim?
[07:16] <h2theizzo> my ip changed
[07:16] <Azunai> ok general question for a complete imbosile who knows as much about linux as he does about astro physics what is the best desktop manager to use gdm?
[07:16] <h2theizzo> so www isnt pointing to me yet
[07:17] <malmeida> hi
[07:17] <slavik> user1: if you are using ubuntu 5.10, it's installed
[07:17] <mitrovarr> does anyone know if you get a performance boost by running the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the general 386 one?
[07:17] <slavik> application -> internet -> gaim :)
[07:17] <holy_cow> Azunai, the one designed for it, metacity
[07:17] <nanotube> user1: gaim is installed by default on ubuntu. just open up your applications menu, ... yea slavik already beat me to it :)
[07:17] <h2theizzo> bahaha
[07:17] <h2theizzo> im lost
[07:17] <slavik> HA!
[07:17] <Azunai> holy_cow, metacity? apt-get install metacity-Desktop?
[07:17] <slavik> nanotube: some day, not only will I be faster than you, I will also give more correct answers ^^
[07:17] <slavik> h2theizzo:
[07:17] <user1> will my yahoo address can comuunicate with me in here?
[07:17] <h2theizzo> i cant change my ip on the ubuntu to match the www.broken-pipe.net ip cuz im on the nat
[07:18] <slavik> you have apache2 running, correct?
[07:18] <h2theizzo> yeah
[07:18] <nanotube> h2theizzo, well, just wait til the domain points to the correct ip. in the meantime, test it by going directly to ip rather than using the domain.
[07:18] <h2theizzo> i can goto 192.168.0.3
[07:18] <slavik> h2theizzo: open your web browser
[07:18] <holy_cow> Azunai, its installed by default, don't be messing with that shit :) play with kde before you go switching window managers
[07:18] <h2theizzo> k
[07:18] <slavik> ok, so that ip works?
[07:18] <nanotube> slavik: :)
[07:18] <h2theizzo> yeah 192.168.0.3
[07:18] <RickBauer> nanotube  I bought this particular laptop just for ubuntu so dependable was not supposed to be  important during the learning curve. But, then lightning got past my ups and surge suppressor so my windows machine is down.
[07:18] <rafael> is somabady install limewire on ubuntu
[07:18] <slavik> ok
[07:18] <rafael> ???????????????????
[07:18] <galgoz> If I choose to uninstall something in synaptic and it says it is going to remove ubuntu-desktop also? does that mean what I think it means??!!
[07:18] <slavik> so you want to set that ip to the address?
[07:18] <h2theizzo> no
[07:18] <moto> i'm running warty ubuntu here, i'd like to install 5.
[07:19] <slavik> galgoz: ubuntu is not a real package
[07:19] <moto> 5.1
[07:19] <nanotube> h2theizzo: 192.168 is your internal ip. it is not reachable from the outside. you have to set your domain to point to your external ip - the router's ip.
[07:19] <user1> how can i create account in gaim?
[07:19] <holy_cow> Azunai, if you want an entirely cool experience, let me find you a great debian based install with enlightenment, that will knowck your socks off.... e17 can have a movie as a desktop background for example
[07:19] <slavik> moto: 5.1 doesn't exist
[07:19] <holy_cow> sec
[07:19] <h2theizzo> www.broken-pipe.net will point to my ip of 71.36.110.216 tomorrow
[07:19] <moto> i'm running warty ubuntu here, i'd like to install 5.1. but cant figure out how to burn a bootable cd
[07:19] <Azunai> holy_cow, i like kde :P it just froze my machine last time i think il stick with gnome for a while though could use a good theme site as the default gdm kinda looks a little how to put this not to my taste
[07:19] <slavik> user1: select an account type (MSN)
[07:19] <slavik> user1: fill in the username and password and save.
[07:19] <galgoz> slavik: so it is safe to proceed
[07:19] <user1> how about in yahoo?
[07:19] <Poleris> Hi - I was wondering how to permanently spoof a MAC address so it doesn't change on bootup. If you can help me, please msg me. :)
[07:19] <slavik> galgoz: from what I've been told, yes.
[07:19] <nanotube> rickbauer: ooh, wow... quite a coincidence.well, since you are up to the point of worrying about backups, you are probably already way on your way to having a working system :)
[07:20] <h2theizzo> Slackwise
[07:20] <h2theizzo> er
[07:20] <Azunai> holy_cow, omg cool but there is one big issue it needs to support ati cards and have high perfomance for gaming :P
[07:20] <galgoz> slavik: I like your anser :)
[07:20] <h2theizzo> slavik can u msg me
[07:20] <galgoz> proceeding
[07:20] <slavik> galgoz: my understanding is that ubuntu-desktop is there to require a load of other packages, some which maybe be useless.
[07:20] <h2theizzo> squelch is turned down :P
[07:20] <galgoz> slavik: and I am wanting to remove some of them
[07:20] <slavik> h2theizzo: what do you want to do?
[07:20] <moto> can anyone direct me to a site for burning bootable CDs? i have the ISO already
[07:20] <galgoz> slavik: I was just afraid it would remove all of them
[07:20] <Azunai> holy_cow, really u dont need to go looking for more distro's etc im happy with ubuntu (its my first sucsessfull linux install :D)
[07:20] <h2theizzo> lemmy start over
[07:20] <holy_cow> Azunai, drivers have nothing to do with your desktop environment.  a driver is a driver is a driver, all that matters for drivers is kernel version
[07:21] <Azunai> holy_cow, thats true :P
[07:21] <holy_cow> http://www.elivecd.org/gb/Main/About/  <-- check this out if you like eye candy
[07:21] <slavik> h2theizzo: what are you trying to do with your ip and the address?
[07:21] <holy_cow> e17 has some video demos online that are cool too
[07:21] <Azunai> holy_cow, for now il stick with KDE
[07:21] <RickBauer> nanotube I sit here and collect url in my bookmarks folder. some good howto's posted in here. helps with the learning curve   LOL  and I do require some help there right now.
[07:21] <hkais> hi
[07:21] <hkais> !+fakeroot
[07:21] <ubotu> hkais: Some people juggle geese
[07:21] <slavik> you want to set the address to point to 168.x.x.x?
[07:21] <Azunai> holy_cow, instead of installing Kubuntu cant u just apt-get KDE?
[07:21] <nanotube> rickbauer: hehe, well, you are in the right place for help :)
[07:21] <oceandead> galgoz it is safe to remove ubuntu-desktop (its a metapackage) - but it is advised to reinstall it before upgrading next ubuntu release
[07:21] <holy_cow> Azunai, why are you interested in linux? just curious
[07:22] <h2theizzo> www.broken-pipe.net will point to my real ip of 71.36.110.216, the apache2 is on my box and works now, what i want to do is change the host from 127.0.0.1 localhost localdomain ubuntu, to whatever ip i need since im behind the nat,and make it says www.broken-pipe.net
[07:22] <holy_cow> Azunai, well you just did, kde-desktop or whatever it is
[07:22] <galgoz> oceandead, by doing the apt-get?
[07:22] <holy_cow> Azunai, you can also aptget e17 too i think
[07:22] <galgoz> coeandead, easy enough
[07:22] <Timberwolf_42> Awesome
[07:22] <slavik> h2theizzo: there is no reason to do that ...
[07:22] <hkais> !+fakeroot
[07:22] <ubotu> hkais: I don't know, could you explain it?
[07:22] <Azunai> holy_cow, for me personaly its a learning curve i like to learn new things and its something different im sick and tired of having to reformat windows xp every month because of its inability to perfom as an os
[07:22] <hkais> !+find fakeroot
[07:22] <ubotu> fakeroot: (Gives a fake root environment), section utils, is optional. Version: 1.5.1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 88 kB, Installed size: 332 kB
[07:22] <Timberwolf_42> I'm rockin now figure dout I can get here via gaim also
[07:22] <slavik> when the dns lookup happens ... it first looks in hosts file(s), the goes to the dns servers
[07:23] <holy_cow> Azunai, there are a lot of desktop environments out there, somve extremely light and easy to run even on the crappiest hardware (of which you don't seem to have an issue with except that you run ati)
[07:23] <h2theizzo> ah
[07:23] <h2theizzo> k
[07:23] <h2theizzo> also
[07:23] <h2theizzo> speaking of DNS
[07:23] <slavik> outside people won't see the page anyway
[07:23] <Timberwolf_42> Hi there Holy cow
[07:23] <slavik> since the global dns is pointing to the wrong ip
[07:23] <h2theizzo> well
[07:23] <holy_cow> Azunai, ah, after a while you will be able to fix anythin on ubuntu, shouldn't ever need to reformat, expect its common while learning
[07:23] <h2theizzo> it wont be tomrrow
[07:23] <frogzoo> holy_cow, there's nothing wrong with ati with the fglrx driver
[07:23] <oceandead> linux has made me lazy in a way - i feel spoiled i dont have to spend umpteen hours running scans for malware
[07:23] <Azunai> holy_cow, im seriously thinking about getting that duel nvidia card thing and putting 2 nvidia 512mb cards on it :P
[07:23] <h2theizzo> my ip changed today and so everything hasnt got updated
[07:23] <Azunai> frogzoo, wanna bet mate
[07:24] <slavik> h2 once a change to the dns is amde, it is said to take upto 72 hours to propogate through all dns servers
[07:24] <h2theizzo> i coudlnt find a dns daemon package
[07:24] <holy_cow> frogzoo, talk to the hand brotha :) i run heavy 3d apps, ati is a joke. period.  end of discussion.  if anyone runs ati they aren't using it to its full potential
[07:24] <Azunai> frogzoo, if theres nothing wrong with ati with the fglrx drivers then why doesnt it seem to like my card?
[07:24] <frogzoo> Azunai, I'm running on 2 ati cards 9700 + x850
[07:24] <wizardjames> is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ down?
[07:24] <h2theizzo> wizardjames i couldnt get there either
[07:24] <slavik> h2theizzo: if you have a dynamic ip, look into dyndns.org (or .com I forget which)
[07:24] <galgoz> wizjames: they will be back soon
[07:24] <wizardjames> ok..then i am not losing my head.
[07:24] <gbleem> anyone have an idea on this: The root terminal in the applications menu won't work.
[07:24] <nanotube> h2theizzo... well, what you really want to do, since you are behind the nat: have your domain point to your "real" ip, then have your router forward port 80 to your internal nat ip (the 192.168...), and have your apache listen on the correct interface. (but its been a long time since ive set up apache... go to apache.org homepage for help)
[07:24] <sirbijan> hi everybody
[07:24] <galgoz> wizjames: fixing an erro
[07:24] <h2theizzo> well i have a domain through wox.org
[07:24] <h2theizzo> it only takes a few minutes
[07:24] <sirbijan> it's about 2 days I can't open www.ubuntuforums.org
[07:24] <sirbijan> what is wrong?
[07:24] <frogzoo> Azunai, which model?
[07:25] <holy_cow> frogzoo, i'm canadian and by all rights i should want to actually support ati, them being canadian ...
[07:25] <wizardjames> ah ok, thats good..    theres a repos i was lookin at that i want..
[07:25] <sirbijan> can you guys open it?
[07:25] <Azunai> holy_cow, i disagree well in windows i use 3dmax and play alot of games so high end performance is a must and in windows ATI beats nvidia hands down!
[07:25] <nanotube> h2theizzo: but you just have to wait until the dns record updates wit hyour new ip. oh well, nothing to do about that.
[07:25] <h2theizzo> i let my friend have control of it he is home more then i
[07:25] <Azunai> frogzoo, ATI X850XT PE
[07:25] <gbleem> can someone change the topic to a message about the forums?
[07:25] <h2theizzo> hmm
[07:25] <h2theizzo> doesnt look like theres any ops
[07:25] <encompass> I don't know nvidea makes a card that is pretty high end
[07:25] <Azunai> holy_cow, but thats in windows not linux
[07:25] <holy_cow> ... but the fact is that they have ALWAYS had garbage drivers on windows, and always very late with driver dev on windows ... i expect no less of such stellar development on linux as has been proven by many pople over the years on all platforms
[07:25] <slavik> h2theizzo: dyndns has clients that will monitor your ip and send a change request, and they allow you to use your own domain, check the site for more info
[07:25] <sirbijan> hey nanotube
[07:26] <slavik> been a long time since I looked at it
[07:26] <holy_cow> Azunai, if windows support sucks, it is guarnteed that linux support is worse, its just the way it works
[07:26] <frogzoo> Azunai, holy_cow I only do 2d, so mebbe there's a 3d prob I've not seen, but otherwise, rock solid
[07:26] <nanotube> h2theizzo: if your ip changes a lot, like slavik says, dyndns might be a good bet.
[07:26] <nanotube> howdy sirbijan
[07:26] <sirbijan> you said that dns thing about ubuntuforums.org?
[07:26] <h2theizzo> heh
[07:26] <whyameye> If a program says it is tailored for IA-32 does that mean it will run poorly on an Athon processor even with a 32 bit OS?
[07:26] <holy_cow> Azunai, sorry dude, if you use ati for 3d, you don't do 3d for a living.  no offense.
[07:26] <sirbijan> hi nanotube
[07:26] <h2theizzo> it hardly ever changes
[07:26] <galgoz> dnydns is a good service
[07:26] <sirbijan> nobody seems to answer me
[07:26] <Azunai> im not interested in support from them thats y i believe strongly in comunities
[07:26] <RickBauer> bbiab
[07:26] <slavik> whyameye: Athlon is x86
[07:26] <nanotube> sirbijan: no, that was not about ubuntuforums. ubuntuforums are just down for now.
[07:26] <nanotube> !forumsdown
[07:26] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[07:26] <h2theizzo> its changed once in 9 months
[07:26] <sirbijan> why nanotube ?!
[07:27] <mitrovarr> whyameye:  I don't think so, AMDs 64 bit processors were designed to run 32 bit emulation very well
[07:27] <slavik> whyameye: tailored to IA32 would mean that it was optimized better if you asked me.
[07:27] <prof> so i'm trying to get the native resolution of my lcd working, which is 1280x768. i tried googling it and i can get it to run it, ithink, but about 1/5 of it goes off the side of my monitor. i'm using this guy's line that he uses for his laptop, whose LCD is the same native res. i'm using Modeline        "1280x768" 80.14 1280 1344 1480 1680 768 769 772 795. my problem is that i have no idea what the numbers mean, so i don't know how to
[07:27] <prof> tweak it
[07:27] <sirbijan> then where can I ask my questions/ see previous questions?!
[07:27] <nanotube> according to the bot, sirbijan, they are moving to new servers.
[07:27] <Azunai> holy_cow, no i dont i do it for fun and with my setup ATI seems to render faster and it gets better benchmark results than an nvidia alternative
[07:27] <slavik> mitrovarr: that's x86 ... not ia32
[07:27] <sirbijan> ouch
[07:27] <slavik> ia32 is different :)
[07:27] <prof> any ideas would be appreciated
[07:27] <nanotube> sirbijan: ask your questions here... seeing previous questions - you are out of luck for now. they will be back up soon
[07:27] <nanotube> !tell sirbijan about forumsdown
[07:27] <Azunai> frogzoo, yeah 2d isnt a problem my card is too "state of the art" for the crapy ati drivers to detect
[07:27] <slavik> athlon64 doesn't emulate x86 (32bit version) either, it can run that code antively ... since x86-64 is simply an extension.
[07:27] <sirbijan> oohoom, thank you!
[07:27] <holy_cow> Azunai, heh, no it gets marginally better benchmarks for gamers.  gamers opinions don't count as generally they know nothing about hardware.  admit it :)
[07:28] <sirbijan> ok, this is the first question nanotube
[07:28] <sirbijan> I don't have a fast internet connection at home
[07:28] <sirbijan> but I have one at work
[07:28] <slavik> holy_cow: I would disgagree
[07:28] <encompass> can anyone tell me what is going on with the ubuntu forums... For some reason it seems to be down ALOT lately....
[07:28] <sirbijan> so, I'm looking for a way to download my packages at work, and then install them at home
[07:28] <h2theizzo> encompass they are moving the servers
[07:28] <nanotube> !tell encompass about forumsdown
[07:28] <prof> it's those darn unstable linux servers, encompass
[07:28] <sirbijan> but I don't have synaptic/apt-get in there
[07:28] <slavik> prof: lol
[07:28] <h2theizzo> yeah
[07:28] <whyameye> slavik, mitrovarr: so it sounds like I can still expect reasonable performance on an Athlon processor, even if the code is "tailored for IA-32?"
[07:28] <holy_cow> slavik, all games do :)
[07:28] <h2theizzo> need a real server like windows nt server 3.51
[07:29] <eli> !tell eli about forumsdown
[07:29] <sirbijan> so, I basically don't know how to get a package with ALL ITS DEPENDENCIES!
[07:29] <encompass> cool thanks
[07:29] <slavik> whyameye: you should
[07:29] <Azunai> holy_cow, no that is true but i play alot of games and i enter tournements for money so ATI and AMD are a must have in my opinion and experiance Intel work beter with nvidia AMD with ATI
[07:29] <mitrovarr> whyameye:  It should be fine.  Are you sure it's a 64 bit athlon, to begin with?  Not all are.
[07:29] <slavik> whyameye: if you ask me, tailored means that it was optimized more ... but the binary has to be whatever the CPU can process
[07:29] <Linuturk> ubuntu forums down?
[07:29] <sirbijan> can I PM you nanotube ?
[07:29] <whyameye> mitrovarr: yep.
[07:29] <encompass> funny, cause AMD has a deal with intel
[07:29] <sirbijan> this is place looks really crowded!
[07:29] <Azunai> holy_cow, and as u will no doubt know no person that does 3d animation or 3d graphical design for a living would have a AMD chip they would choose intel
[07:29] <Poleris> Hi - I was wondering how to permanently spoof a MAC address so it doesn't change on bootup. If you can help me, please msg me.
[07:29] <slavik> mitrovarr: if it's athlon64, then it's 64bit :)
[07:30] <holy_cow> Azunai, nonsense, thats arbitrary crap information.  you need to forget all of what you just said.  what you are really pointing out is that ati is comming out with slightly faster products than nvidia in recent times
[07:30] <h2theizzo> pfft
[07:30] <h2theizzo> yeah right
[07:30] <holy_cow> all the rest you said is crap.
[07:30] <h2theizzo> get the amd dual core 4400+
[07:30] <h2theizzo> that will blow the shit outta intel
[07:30] <h2theizzo> 2mb cache
[07:30] <mitrovarr> I know someone who DOES do 3d amination and graphical design, and he uses both.  Sometimes one's ahead, and sometimes the other is.
[07:30] <gbleem> Linuturk: someone said 10am eastern forums should be back up.
[07:30] <h2theizzo> 1000mhz fsb
[07:30] <h2theizzo> pff
[07:30] <mitrovarr> slavik:  I know that, but he didn't specify
[07:30] <sirbijan> nanotube: can I PM you? this place looks really crowded!
[07:30] <encompass> funny... I think my celeron 700 with 200mb ram is bloody fast!
[07:30] <slavik> h2theizzo: 2MB cache is simply delaying the problem
[07:30] <malikyo> are the fsb's up to 1ghz now?
[07:30] <h2theizzo> yeah
[07:30] <h2theizzo> heh
[07:30] <slavik> problem being: RAM IS TOO SLOW, but that is offtopic
[07:31] <holy_cow> also the amd comment really points to the same fact as the ati comment, amd is simply comming to market with faster cpus than intel these days, and virtually own the 64 segment, for all sorts of reasons
[07:31] <h2theizzo> i put my money on amd any day
[07:31] <nanotube> sirbijan: i am really not experienced with apt-get, so couldnt give you any good advice about it. (i am just 3 weeks into ubuntu), so i suggest you ask someone with more knowledge of apt-get.
[07:31] <h2theizzo> but thats personal opinion
[07:31] <h2theizzo> :P
[07:31] <encompass> can we get back to ubuntu help
[07:31] <mitrovarr> has anyone here compiled their own kernel in ubuntu?  I tried, but I had some strange errors
[07:31] <h2theizzo> intel might be better
[07:31] <nanotube> but you can pm me if you want anyway, sirbijan :)
[07:31] <Azunai> holy_cow, LOL slightly hmm 3d benchmarks based on intel and ati suck compared to intel and nvidia amd and nvidia benchmarks are around 90fps slower than when placed with intel chips yet the AMD and ATI combo out performs intel and nvidia by over 200fps
[07:31] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  I'd say AMD is way ahead in the dual core arena, too
[07:31] <sirbijan> thank you nanotube , you're soo cool
[07:31] <h2theizzo> yeah Azunai
[07:31] <Azunai> holy_cow, and in games 200fps is the diference between been seen and not been seen
[07:31] <sirbijan> nobody seems to answer here nanotube !
[07:31] <h2theizzo> have you tried the SLI 7800GT PCI-EXpress 16's
[07:31] <encompass> everyone feels like flaming
[07:31] <sirbijan> except you ofcourse!
[07:32] <h2theizzo> 220fps
[07:32] <encompass> I don't like going here for answers anymore
[07:32] <slavik> h2theizzo: offtopic, please.
[07:32] <nanotube> sirbijan: they are just too involved in their little discussion about which hardware is the best :) be a little persistent, ask a few times over, and someone will pick it up. :)
[07:32] <holy_cow> *cough* you read too many benchmark tests.  its easy to scew those things, its far easier to misunderstand them.
[07:32] <Azunai> h2theizzo, not if there system is corectly built but as holy_cow said there is very few gamers that know hardware well
[07:32] <robotgeek> hardware discussion ot #ubuntu-offtopic please
[07:32] <sirbijan> otay nanotube , I will do it, but later, coz right now I'm so hungry, I should go for some snack!
[07:32] <sirbijan> thank you anyway
[07:32] <slavik> encompass: if you get a compile error ... I run from those ...
[07:32] <sirbijan> one more thing nanotube
[07:32] <Azunai> holy_cow, it is if u misinterperit the info or dont know how to read them
[07:32] <nanotube> sirbijan: good luck, have fun :)
[07:32] <encompass> if you want a good gamer go to sun micros systems
[07:33] <nanotube> sure, whats up sirbijan
[07:33] <rt> i just tried an ubuntu 5.10 live cd w/ my box which has a ati express 200 video chipset, x didn't init properly.   am i going to have difficulty getting it to work w/ a real install?
[07:33] <encompass> thet have a good computer and it is amd
[07:33] <holy_cow> Azunai, at this point i think we are saying the same thing :)
[07:33] <sirbijan> any cool sites I can get cool themese for my ubunto in there?
[07:33] <mitrovarr> has anyone here compiled their own kernel for ubuntu?  I compiled one, but I'm getting strange errors about devfs when I try to run it.
[07:33] <MickMcMack> If you want power, buy an Azul...
[07:33] <slavik> rt: your report worries me, as I have an xpress200m based laptop on the way
[07:33] <encompass> rt it could happen... but it is fixable
[07:33] <Azunai> holy_cow, maybe but the fact is ATI and AMD are made for gamers nvidia cannot and willnot compete in the gaming comunity
[07:33] <malikyo> I used to use AMD chips until I switched to MacOS
[07:34] <encompass> slavik: I have that too... it is not a problem
[07:34] <slavik> rt: have you tried installing the ati drivers?
[07:34] <encompass> ati works
[07:34] <holy_cow> Azunai, what did you say you are, 21?
[07:34] <slavik> sweet
[07:34] <rt> just tried the live cd to ascertain whether it worked or not.
[07:34] <holy_cow> i guess you don't remember how nvidia became nvidia then
[07:34] <Azunai> holy_cow, 22 nxt month
[07:34] <slavik> encompass: a laptop with 200?
[07:34] <mitrovarr> rt:  have you tried giving the livecd some cheat codes at boot?  They have lots of codes to adjust laptops to hopefcully work.
[07:34] <encompass> if at the worst you can start with just FB driver and go from there
[07:34] <frogzoo> sirbijan, install pkg art-manager & you can pick & choose your themes
[07:34] <nanotube> sirbijan: hmm, well if you are running gnome, you can pick up a bunch of themes from gnome.org, afaik
[07:34] <Azunai> ive been doing computer shit since i was like 5 years old
[07:34] <encompass> no... with the ati chipset
[07:34] <rt> haven't bitten the bullet of installing for real yet (probably won't tonight, too late to start, have to work tomorrow)
[07:34] <encompass> shuttle zen
[07:34] <sirbijan> thank you both frogzoo and nanotube
[07:34] <slavik> encompass: no built in video?
[07:34] <sirbijan> I will do that
[07:34] <sirbijan> see ya
[07:34] <sirbijan> bubye
[07:34] <encompass> yes built in
[07:34] <sirbijan> quit
[07:35] <slavik> encompass: did you test the shipped driver vs the ati driver?
[07:35] <h2theizzo> slavik, do u know of a good website, that has a list of .confs i can tweak, and probly a good explanation of the stuff in  the .confs?
[07:35] <encompass> search newegg for the shuttle zen
[07:35] <holy_cow> Azunai, okay, who was the majour graphics card player that owned the gaming market before nvidia?
[07:35] <encompass> that is my computer I am getting
[07:35] <MickMcMack> Voodoo!
[07:35] <encompass> it works very good in Linux
[07:35] <galgoz> diamond
[07:35] <slavik> h2theizzo: if I knew of a site like that, I'd be richer than bill gates ;)
[07:35] <h2theizzo> lol
[07:35] <encompass> voodoo now those were the days
[07:35] <h2theizzo> right
[07:35] <mitrovarr> I miss 3dfx
[07:35] <encompass> me too
[07:35] <Azunai> holy_cow, owned LOL voodoo
[07:35] <h2theizzo> i had the voodoo3 pci
[07:36] <h2theizzo> awesome
[07:36] <encompass> I have an overclocks voodoo 5
[07:36] <Azunai> holy_cow, they were awesome
[07:36] <encompass> yummy
[07:36] <slavik> encompass: presario v2000z
[07:36] <mitrovarr> I have a voodoo 1 pass-through card on a computer here
[07:36] <TheBeast> voodoo used to be video cards?
[07:36] <mitrovarr> screws up x
[07:36] <malikyo> did anyone buy 3dfx or they just went under?
[07:36] <MickMcMack> I had a BBC. x)
[07:36] <slavik> TheBeast: in the ancient times, yes.
[07:36] <h2theizzo> nvidia no?
[07:36] <encompass> slavik: cool
[07:36] <Azunai> holy_cow, i think Nvidia baught out 3dfx
[07:36] <slavik> TheBeast: the best of their time, too
[07:36] <TheBeast> then nvidia took teh lead right?
[07:36] <encompass> nvidea bought their tech
[07:36] <slavik> Azunai: they did
[07:36] <h2theizzo> slavik u have the persario v2000z?
[07:36] <slavik> nvidia bought the company
[07:36] <Timberwolf_42> Ok I have heard that the beta release of gaim now supports voice chat does anyone know the validity of this?
[07:36] <holy_cow> Azunai, exactly, then nvidia owned the gaming market for about 6 years or so
[07:36] <slavik> h2theizzo: not yet
[07:36] <slavik> shipping on tuesday :D
[07:36] <holy_cow> until about 2000 or so
[07:37] <h2theizzo> i have the sr1300nx and the sr1620nx
[07:37] <holy_cow> when ati started to blow past them in fps
[07:37] <TheBeast> Timberwolf_42 it doesn't suport shit
[07:37] <h2theizzo> x64 on the 1620
[07:37] <mitrovarr> I'm curious about the gaim beta too... from what I heard it rather sucked
[07:37] <Azunai> yeah untill ATI came on the seen with the ATI 9800 series since then ATI have been the leader in the gaming market and continue to "own"
[07:37] <holy_cow> to say that nvidia is not competing in the gaming market is really to admit that you haven't paid attention, nvidia was the name you used up to about 2000
[07:37] <h2theizzo> hmm
[07:37] <slavik> mine is with a sempron, from what I read, they should have 64bit by now
[07:37] <Timberwolf_42> I had some problems trying to get it installed so I gave up on it
[07:37] <encompass> mitrovarr: that is your opinion... it has alot of new things that you can't see yet
[07:37] <h2theizzo> slavik yes they do
[07:37] <MickMcMack> Nvidia still have the fastest board, afaik.
[07:37] <encompass> like how it work on the inside
[07:38] <h2theizzo> i can vouch for that
[07:38] <holy_cow> Azunai, exactly so dont say stupid stuff like nvidia doesn't compete, they do very well
[07:38] <h2theizzo> and as for ati owning
[07:38] <h2theizzo> hah
[07:38] <malikyo> does anyone know if the new mactels have 64bit chips in them
[07:38] <h2theizzo> the ps3 isnt out yet
[07:38] <slavik> h2theizzo: makes those 2 64bit ubuntu cds not a wasted downlaod :D
[07:38] <mitrovarr> encompass:  Well, I haven't tried it, but I was hoping for video and sound chat, and from what I heard it doesn't have video at least.
[07:38] <encompass> outa here
[07:38] <TheBeast> it will be out in the next 2 months
[07:38] <encompass> yeah
[07:38] <TheBeast> and I'm going to get one
[07:38] <holy_cow> whether or not they will manage to compete against ati, who knows, thats another question
[07:38] <h2theizzo> but it has the nvidia card in it, wich is faster then any card yet
[07:38] <TheBeast> can't wait for it
[07:38] <slavik> malikyo: I think so ... they are new intel chips, too
[07:38] <Azunai> holy_cow,  i dunno nvidia have had some good cards i used to have the Nvidia Geforce 3 TI man that was a card :) but still they cant compete against ATI and when the ATI crossfire is realeased nvidia will be blown out of the marcket
[07:38] <encompass> they have others that can do that... but that is not gaims priority to have multimedia
[07:38] <h2theizzo> read up on the card :P
[07:38] <encompass> just chat
[07:38] <mitrovarr> from what I've seen ATI and Nvidia are basically neck and neck, like they've been for years
[07:38] <TheBeast> have you heard about the xboxes that used to melt? live overheating & stuff?
[07:38] <Azunai> *market
[07:39] <malikyo> I know they're new, but they never stated if they're 64bit
[07:39] <TheBeast> I've actually seen one
[07:39] <slavik> galgoz: I'd say yes, but I read of a problem that required 32bit os to get ndiswrapper to work
[07:39] <malikyo> I would hope they are
[07:39] <h2theizzo> probly a matter of opinion
[07:39] <MickMcMack> Eh, the Xfire is already out.
[07:39] <slavik> because there was no 64bit version of the driver for the card
[07:39] <Azunai> who said something about an os for gaming before?
[07:39] <MickMcMack> And it doesn't perform _that_ well, according to the vast majority of benchmarks.
[07:39] <holy_cow> Azunai, based on your rather faulty requirements, i wouldn't support shit product and shit drivers from a company like ati even if they did run games faster
[07:39] <holy_cow> your simply rewarding crap
[07:39] <h2theizzo> im spending 230 dollars on a bfg tech 6600 OC monday
[07:39] <galgoz> slavik: and if I am not using ndiswrapper?
[07:39] <holy_cow> in which case you get what you deserve, for example, trying to install ati drivers on linux ... :)
[07:39] <TheBeast> h2theizzo you can get a better card for that ammount of money
[07:40] <h2theizzo> oh yeah?
[07:40] <TheBeast> maybe a 6800
[07:40] <nanotube> hey everyone, azunai, mitrovarr, holy_cow, would y'all please stop discussing gaming hardware? all your off topic traffic makes it difficult to see anything on-topic.
[07:40] <galgoz> slavik: i was just scared that there would be lots of issues
[07:40] <h2theizzo> hook me up with a link brother
[07:40] <Azunai> holy_cow,  maybe the drivers are shit but.. if u buy from saphire there drivers are alot better no one uses the official ati drivers
[07:40] <h2theizzo> hehe
[07:40] <slavik> galgoz: it depends on the windows driver for the card
[07:40] <Azunai> sorry
[07:40] <h2theizzo> that was off newegg
[07:40] <TheBeast> h2theizzo see newegg.com
[07:40] <h2theizzo> its gotta be AGP though
[07:40] <h2theizzo> yeah thats where i got it
[07:40] <TheBeast> you're in US, right?
[07:40] <h2theizzo> course
[07:40] <h2theizzo> oregon
[07:40] <mitrovarr> nanotube: ok
[07:40] <TheBeast> h2theizzo well, if it's gotta be agp sorry
[07:40] <TheBeast> :)
[07:40] <h2theizzo> haha right
[07:40] <nanotube> mitrovarr: thanks :)
[07:40] <TheBeast> heh
[07:40] <h2theizzo> ill get sli next year
[07:40] <h2theizzo> tax returns
[07:40] <h2theizzo> :P
[07:41] <galgoz> slavik, what depends on the windows driver?
[07:41] <Azunai> holy_cow, can u give me the link to the wiki site plz? for the ati install?
[07:41] <TheBeast> lol @ sli
[07:41] <mitrovarr> so does anyone know if it improves performance to run the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the generic 386 kernels?
[07:41] <slavik> galgoz: the way it was ... 64bit os, 64bit ndiswrapper, no 64bit windows driver
[07:41] <TheBeast> what's so cool about sli?
[07:41] <h2theizzo> heh
[07:41] <h2theizzo> dood
[07:41] <galgoz> slavik
[07:41] <h2theizzo> its dual video cards
[07:41] <nanotube> !tell azunai about ati
[07:41] <h2theizzo> on 1 monitor
[07:41] <galgoz> slavik, ah, ok
[07:41] <TheBeast> so?
[07:41] <timfrost> !ati
[07:41] <ubotu> rumour has it, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[07:41] <holy_cow> Azunai, topic is  your friend
[07:41] <slavik> so the guy said to use 32bit os, 32bit ndiswrapper, 32bit windows driver
[07:41] <h2theizzo> twice the fps
[07:41] <TheBeast> I know, it's power
[07:41] <h2theizzo> exactly
[07:41] <TheBeast> but with one fx 4500 you can beat anything
[07:41] <h2theizzo> lol
[07:41] <h2theizzo> doubt it
[07:41] <TheBeast> I game on a workstation videocard here
[07:41] <Azunai> thanks
[07:41] <h2theizzo> fx isnt that good
[07:41] <TheBeast> dude, the fx quadro
[07:41] <Azunai> holy_cow, topic?
[07:41] <galgoz> slavik, so if i don't use any windows drivers I am ok
[07:41] <h2theizzo> oh?
[07:42] <h2theizzo> hmm
[07:42] <TheBeast> it's liek $2500
[07:42] <slavik> h2theizzo, TheBeast: #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:42] <TheBeast> are you nuts?
[07:42] <TheBeast> :D
[07:42] <h2theizzo> jesus
[07:42] <slavik> galgoz: should be
[07:42] <h2theizzo> i was thinking like the 5200 fx and 5500fx
[07:42] <holy_cow> Azunai, they just gave you the link, follow, topic for channel however gives you most all resources you need
[07:42] <slavik> galgoz: that is the only problem I read about with 64bit os
[07:42] <galgoz> slavik, converting will require a format and reinstall correct?
[07:42] <Azunai> ahhh ok :)
[07:42] <Azunai> cool thanks
[07:42] <slavik> galgoz: probably
[07:42] <mitrovarr> has anyone here compiled their own kernels to use with ubuntu?
[07:42] <h2theizzo> lol i cant get 2 + 2 to equal 4 on linux
[07:43] <h2theizzo> let alone compile a kernal
[07:43] <h2theizzo> :\
[07:43] <Azunai> ok stupid question maybe but with kernels u need to be carefull or so im told so according to wiki i need to update the kernel should i or should i skip that step?
[07:43] <slavik> galgoz: the funny part is that anandtech had an article about gcc 3.3 optimizing 32bit code better than gcc 4.0, while gcc 4.0 did that for 64bit code.
[07:43] <mitrovarr> I made one compile but I get bizarre errors when I try to run it.  It tries to run, but not really
[07:43] <frogzoo> mitrovarr, there's a pkg for kernel builds - haven't done it, though should be straightforward
[07:43] <slavik> Azunai: I'd update everything, but that's me
[07:43] <Azunai> h2theizzo, i learned alot installing gentoo but nothing that worked in gentoo works here :)
[07:43] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  unless you have specific problems or just want to learn about them, I wouldn't mess with them.
[07:43] <Azunai> slavik, ok thanks :)
[07:43] <h2theizzo> lol
[07:43] <galgoz> slavik, well, I have gcc 3.3 and 4.0 installed and run the one I need anyways
[07:43] <h2theizzo> yeah i did gentoo also
[07:44] <h2theizzo> on my emachine
[07:44] <h2theizzo> took me over a week
[07:44] <galgoz> slavik, some aps require gcc 3.3 to compile correct
[07:44] <h2theizzo> to friggin complicated
[07:44] <TheBeast> h2theizzo no, see http://www.nvidia.com/page/qfx_uhe.html
[07:44] <mitrovarr> frogzoo:  You mean kernel-package?  I found out about that after I made it.
[07:44] <slavik> galgoz: was about to say that
[07:44] <TheBeast> quadro fx whatever
[07:44] <h2theizzo> ok TheBeast
[07:44] <whyameye> Azunai: it's no big deal to patch the kernal using ubuntu's module assistant, and if the directions say to do it...they probably have a reason...
[07:44] <Azunai> lol took me 2 days man and i was stressed to hell cus after all the install i couldnt get X to work :(
[07:44] <h2theizzo> going there now
[07:44] <frogzoo> mitrovarr, lol - 2 late now
[07:44] <Azunai> whyameye, ok thanks :)
[07:44] <galgoz> slavik, I am kinda proud I even install this with as little linux exp as I have
[07:44] <mitrovarr> frogzoo:  well, I can always make another one
[07:45] <h2theizzo> TheBeast
[07:45] <slavik> galgoz: trust me, you are not far behind me on *nix experience :)
[07:45] <h2theizzo> isnt that for graphics applications and stuff
[07:45] <TheBeast> h2theizzo yes?
[07:45] <h2theizzo> i need something for high end gaming
[07:45] <mitrovarr> frogzoo:  I tried just following standard kernel-making procedure but it gives me a lot of strange errors on boot
[07:45] <TheBeast> yes it is. but you can game on them as well
[07:45] <h2theizzo> bf2 and so on
[07:45] <galgoz> slavik, where you at?
[07:45] <TheBeast> graphics applications lol
[07:45] <slavik> I am staff seargent :)
[07:45] <h2theizzo> hehe
[07:45] <h2theizzo> i have 3ds studio max 8
[07:45] <slavik> and have almost all basic combat badges :)
[07:45] <h2theizzo> never really used it
[07:45] <mitrovarr> frogzoo:  It does actually boot, but I'm worried I might be missing key system drivers or something.
[07:45] <galgoz> I am a Specialist
[07:45] <slavik> I had 21 knife kills once
[07:46] <h2theizzo> lol jeez
[07:46] <Azunai> 3dsm is great hard to get to grips with but fantastic program
[07:46] <slavik> http://bf2s.com/player/gslavik/
[07:46] <frogzoo> mitrovarr, erghh... it's just a kernel, strange - check dmesg
[07:46] <slavik> with 1 shock paddle kill
[07:46] <MickMcMack> Don't use 3dsm, use Blender!
[07:46] <slavik> could've had expert knife ...
[07:46] <johndarkhorse> !offtopic
[07:46] <ubotu> hmm... offtopic is Non-support discussions maybe carried out in #ubuntu-offtopic. Editor/Language wars are welcome there!
[07:46] <galgoz> hehe
[07:47] <h2theizzo> your win to lose ratio is off :P
[07:47] <slavik> yes
[07:47] <slavik> back to ubuntu then
[07:47] <h2theizzo> heh
[07:47] <h2theizzo> lol
[07:47] <h2theizzo> yeah
[07:47] <Azunai> ok time to reboot so my X server wont load and i have to re-edit the damn xorg.conf file be back in 5 :)
[07:47] <anavim> vim is way better than emacs!  oh wait, #ubuntu-offtopic
[07:47] <holy_cow> Azunai, dude
[07:47] <holy_cow> you don't need to reboot
[07:47] <Azunai> holy_cow,  yeh?
[07:47] <holy_cow> rebooting will do EXACTLY NOTHING
[07:47] <Azunai> says i do on wiki?
[07:48] <anavim> lisp is way better than... oh, whoops again
[07:48] <Azunai> holy just reboot x?
[07:48] <holy_cow> if x doesn't load rebooting wonts solve it
[07:48] <holy_cow> correct
[07:48] <slavik> Azunai: yes
[07:48] <slavik> Azunai: linux is not windows ;)
[07:48] <Azunai> ok ctrl +alt +bksp :D
[07:48] <galgoz> guess I need to download the 64 bit install
[07:48] <Azunai> slavik, ive noticed ;P
[07:48] <h2theizzo> yeah format /q c: /y
[07:48] <h2theizzo> O.o
[07:48] <holy_cow> Azunai, or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[07:48] <mojo_> I have a multi-boot question... hda = 30G, hdb=60G; GRUB on MBR of hda boots Ubuntu, which lives on hdb.  I want to install WinXP Pro on hda.  What is the best way to go about this?  BTW hdb has one active ubuntu and one for testing, so i can re-install ubuntu on the alt part. on hdb if needed for this to all work
[07:48] <Azunai> be back in 5 when x dont load again
[07:49] <Azunai> ohhh new commands :P
[07:49] <Azunai> brb
[07:49] <holy_cow> Azunai, don't forget you can change the driver back to vesa
[07:49] <holy_cow> *sigh*
[07:49] <Timberwolf_42> too late lol
[07:49] <holy_cow> is it any wonder windows is a virus wonderland?
[07:49] <slavik> mojo_: I'd read the grub doc on installing stuff
[07:49] <cyphase> what's everyone think of the idea of having a central feed aggregator?
[07:49] <holy_cow> lol :)
[07:49] <slavik> mojo_: it is likely that winxp will overwrite the mbr
[07:50] <slavik> cyphase: for what?
[07:50] <holy_cow> cyphase, well if i could figure out why in the world i would need a feed in the first place ... :)
[07:50] <nanotube> mojo_, well, one thing you can be entirely sure of is that the win xp pro install will wipe out your grub from hda mbr, so that you will have to boot from cd to restore it.
[07:50] <mojo_> slavik: yeah, i figured it would.  that is why i guess i may have to install a ubuntu into the testing partition on hdb after installing xp on hda.
[07:50] <Timberwolf_42> How difficult is it to have three operating systems on one computer with two hard drives?
[07:50] <slavik> mojo_: http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html
[07:50] <mitrovarr> mojo_:  Before you start, you might want to install grub on a floppy so you can boot if something goes horribly wrong
[07:51] <nanotube> slavik: hey, you are picking up speed! :)
[07:51] <slavik> Timberwolf_42: not very, since one guy got like 60+ OS on a system
[07:51] <mojo_> nanotube: but installing ubuntu after will set grub up for xp dual boot, AND my other (primary) ubuntu install, no?
[07:51] <frogzoo> Timberwolf_42, you can have 3 OS's on just 1 hard drive - easy
[07:51] <slavik> 10 version of windows, 10 dif version of linux distros ...
[07:51] <mitrovarr> Timberwolf_42:  That depends on the operating systems and the size of the drives
[07:51] <Timberwolf_42> Would it be best to install grub on a floppy instead of the mbr?
[07:51] <cyphase> slavik, it could manage all the updating of feeds, provide a central list of feeds, allow for system-wide manipulation of feeds, etc
[07:51] <slavik> nanotube: I need to slow down ...
[07:51] <mojo_> mitrovarr: horribly wrong = livecd or techie's boot cd ;)
[07:51] <holy_cow> Timberwolf_42, like anything else, if you know how to setup a bootloader and what each os needs then its easy, usually finding anything more than linuz/windows dualboot info is really esoteric in hard to look up
[07:51] <nanotube> mojo_ i would think that grub would autodetect your xp, and both your ubuntus
[07:51] <slavik> cyphase: in what topic though? what would it feed?
[07:52] <Timberwolf_42> I tried awhile back to install fedora and ubuntu and wxp but had no luck
[07:52] <mojo_> nanotube: that what i am hoping here
[07:52] <nanotube> mojo_ but since i have not actually run 2 ubuntus at the same time, i dont know for sure :)
[07:52] <mitrovarr> mojo_: yeah but with a grub floppy you can get your own personal grub setup, not have to muck around booting things manually
[07:52] <nanotube> mojo_ i only run xp + 1 ubuntu.
[07:52] <EightiesK> #kubunyu
[07:52] <slavik> nanotube: I need to sleep soon, heh
[07:52] <frogzoo> Timberwolf_42, always install doze 1st, then give redhat & ubuntu their own / & /usr partitions & you're good to go
[07:52] <cyphase> slavik, what do you mean?
[07:52] <nanotube> slavik: heh me too. whats your TZ?
[07:53] <mitrovarr> Timberwolf_42:  Boot floppies are nice for backups, or if you just want an OS for a little while to play with, but if you want it long term you'll want it on a boot sector.  Floppies are the most unreliable storage method known to man, after all.
[07:53] <slavik> nanotube: est
[07:53] <mojo_> nanotube: yeah i run ubuntu 32bit, but have another part for ubuntu 64bit to play with and another for what will be an lfs
[07:53] <ejofee> after i run lilo from mandriva, i can boot into windows; after i run lilo from ubuntu (same /etc/lilo.conf file, adapted), i can't boot into windows. why?
[07:53] <slavik> cyphase: will it feed slashdot, or digg, or catfood, or what?
[07:53] <nanotube> slavik: me too. i guess we both are in need of some sleep.
[07:53] <cyphase> slavik, you're kidding right?
[07:53] <galgoz> mojo, why don't you just install the 64 bit version, is there a problem with it?
[07:54] <nanotube> mojo_: heh interesting. :)
[07:54] <mojo_> nanotube: the xp is so i can play empire earth iii, need for speed, halo, ya know.  Win2k was okay but now EE wants XP
[07:54] <slavik> nanotube: I don't need sleep, but classes start on thursday ... need to get used to sleep before 12midnight
[07:54] <Timberwolf_42> I have an 18 gb hard drive that I currently hve ubuntu installed on.. if I decide to install fedora on this hard drive also will I have to remove all the data I currently have  if I wish to keep any of it?
[07:54] <slavik> cyphase: no ... you never sauid what the feed was for
[07:54] <Bushito> hey... How can I get "snapshot"?
[07:54] <nanotube> slavik: your semester starts pretty late. mine has already started last tuesday.
[07:54] <cyphase> slavik, it's a feed aggregator..
[07:54] <slavik> oh, ok
[07:54] <slavik> must've missed that part
[07:54] <cyphase> lol
[07:54] <slavik> cyphase: start cding
[07:55] <slavik> coding*
[07:55] <slavik> chop chop
[07:55] <cyphase> slavik, i'm planning to
[07:55] <slavik> code doesn't write itself ^^
[07:55] <Azunai> ok how do u find out if a certian piece of hardware is compatible with ubuntu?
[07:55] <cyphase> but i wanted to get everyones opinion on it
[07:55] <ejofee> after i run lilo from mandriva, i can boot into windows; after i run lilo from ubuntu (same /etc/lilo.conf file, adapted), i can't boot into windows. why?
[07:55] <Bushito> is "snapshot" out already?
[07:55] <mojo_> nanotube: & slavik: okay i'll just give this a spin.  if i have probs i can always manually config grub to get me in ubuntu.  i just have never been able to *manually* config grub to boot windows myself.
[07:55] <slavik> Azunai: there should be a list of compatability somewhere
[07:55] <cyphase> and see if anyone had any ideas
[07:55] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Well, some things are more likely to work than others.  What is it?
[07:55] <anavim> Bushito: you mean dapper drake snapshot 3? yes
[07:55] <Azunai> slavik, google is my friend :D
[07:55] <nanotube> !tell azunai about hardware
[07:56] <mojo_> ttfn - we'll see how this works.
[07:56] <slavik> Azunai: that's the spirit!!!
[07:56] <Azunai> mitrovarr, ATI X850 XT PE
[07:56] <nishant> hey guys
[07:56] <nanotube> mojo_ i have not tried that before either. ..
[07:56] <slavik> I decided to found a new religion.
[07:56] <nishant> i am new to ubuntu
[07:56] <MickMcMack> slavik, can I be the high priest? :o
[07:56] <slavik> google is the god in the religion ...
[07:56] <nanotube> mojo_ good luck :)
[07:56] <mojo_> nanotube: well i'll report back if u r still here.  :)
[07:56] <mojo_> nanotube: thanks
[07:56] <nishant> Cud u tell me how do i make totem work???
[07:56] <nanotube> slavik: i do not think thats a new religion. :)
[07:56] <slavik> MickMcMack: only if you have a hot sister ;) with certain parameters
[07:56] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  I guess in that case I'd go to ATI and check the readme for the fxgl drivers for linux.  I'm sure it will work in some capacity, and I'd guess that acceleration will probably work, but no guarantees, since I don't use ATI.
[07:57] <frogzoo> slavik, yours is a jealous god :D
[07:57] <mojo_> bbl!!
[07:57] <ejofee> could somebody please paste for me the contents of a /etc/lilo.conf which allows access to a windows xp partition?
[07:57] <nanotube> mojo_ hopefully not, cuz i need sleep :) but maybe i wil see you some other day
[07:57] <Timberwolf_42> Rephrase: Is it possible to resize a hard drive that has ubuntu installed on it so I can add another os?
[07:57] <MickMcMack> slavik, :D!
[07:57] <slavik> Timberwolf_42: in ubuntu, there is a tool for that
[07:57] <Bushito> i mean Ubuntu snapshot
[07:57] <nanotube> nishant: what kind of files do you want totem to play?
[07:58] <slavik> Timberwolf_42: it comes default, look around in the menus ...
[07:58] <Azunai> na man this card is crap for this is
[07:58] <Azunai> *os
[07:58] <nishant> any format like avi, mpeg ,mpg etc
[07:58] <Azunai> do diferent distros support diferent hardware?
[07:58] <nanotube> ejofee: sorry, ubuntu uses grub by default, so most if not everyone here probably uses grub. did you try google?
[07:58] <slavik> Azunai: could be
[07:58] <frogzoo> Timberwolf_42, man resize2fs - never used it myself though....
[07:58] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Yes and no, they have different drivers, but you can get almost any driver for almost any OS.
[07:58] <slavik> I know that freebsd has a central compatability list.
[07:58] <nanotube> nishant: you will want to open up synaptic package manager, and search for "gstreamer"
[07:58] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Err, distro, not OS.
[07:58] <ejofee> nanotube: grub doesn't want to load windows at all! any idea why?
[07:58] <nanotube> nishant: that will bring up a list of a lot of plugins
[07:59] <Azunai> mitrovarr, lol ok thanks that doesnt make me feel good tho ::(
[07:59] <slavik> ejofee: grub is doing you a favor ;)
[07:59] <nishant> where do i find this manager???
[07:59] <nanotube> ejofee: no clue, i am running a dual boot with ubuntu and winxp pro, on grub, with no probs...
[07:59] <nanotube> slavik, azunai: check out !hardware
[07:59] <nanotube> !hardware
[07:59] <ubotu> it has been said that hardware is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[07:59] <ejofee> nanotube: is grub2 better than grub?
[08:00] <frogzoo> Timberwolf_42, or just use gparted
[08:00] <Azunai> nanotube, already have done and guesse what no luck :(
[08:00] <Bushito> is "snapshot" out already?
[08:00] <Bushito> i mean Ubuntu snapshot
[08:00] <nanotube> nishant: you will have to enable the universe and multiverse repositories in order to see a lot of the gistreamer plugins. you do that by going settings>repositories>click add button
[08:00] <nanotube> nishant: when you are in the synaptic package mgr.
[08:01] <Timberwolf_42> Ok I see the tool thank you
[08:01] <Azunai> !harware
[08:01] <ubotu> Azunai: I haven't a clue
[08:01] <prof> alright, so i got my resolutions right, and i have dual monitors set up. but not the dual monitors i want. I'd like to be able to drag things between monitors, but it won't let me. anyone want to help me out or give me a starting point to figure out how to do this?
[08:01] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  is it a good idea for him to even use gstreamer?  I didn't have any luck running most files until I moved to xine.
[08:01] <nanotube> ejofee... no idea. the grub that comes with ubuntu 5.10 works well enough for me, and i never bothered to learn more about it :)
[08:02] <slavik> !hardware
[08:02] <ubotu> [hardware]  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupport
[08:02] <slavik> don't mispell :)
[08:02] <nanotube> mitrovarr: well, yea, i installed vlc, mplayer, and xine, cuz totem kinda sucks. but... does work reasonably once you have all those plugins, though i dont use it myself much. :)
[08:02] <fangorious> anyone having trouble getting to ubuntuforums.org?
[08:02] <yigal-epw> all the time
[08:02] <nishant> I cannot find the setting button????
[08:02] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  I've had really great luck with xine and kaffeine, it even plays wierd things like nsv2, most real formats, and some wmvs
[08:03] <holy_cow> nanotube, remove tote-gstreamer and install totem-xine and w32codecs
[08:03] <nanotube> mitrovarr: never heard of kaffeine. is that a kde app?
[08:03] <slavik> nanotube: prolly
[08:03] <nanotube> mitrovarr: for me vlc and mplayer work well...
[08:03] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  of course I had to go codec hunting.  Yeah, kaffeine is KDE.  Totem is good too, I just like Kaffeine's interface, and I use a remote with irkick to run it from across the room.
[08:03] <Azunai> hmm says on some forum about editing a hexedit module what does that mean?
[08:03] <rob> anyone know why there is a pygtk source package, but no binary in the repos (I'm assuming it might be called something else)?
[08:03] <nanotube> holy_cow: hmm... maybe i will try that. mitrovarr: i have no remote :(
[08:03] <yigal-epw> what is up with ubuntuforums why is it down so often?
[08:04] <slavik> prof: have you tried google?
[08:04] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  remote control, lirc, irkick, and ess.tv... too much fun :-)
[08:04] <nishant> Hey Nano Tube ????
[08:04] <nanotube> mitrovarr: hehe yea. i am having enough fun keeping up in gradschool. if i had all those toys, it would be the end of me. :)
[08:04] <nanotube> nishant: whats up
[08:04] <prof> i've tried. i'm not exactly sure what to search for
[08:05] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  I'll have to remember that when I hopefully go in a year
[08:05] <nishant> I cannot find this settin button???
[08:05] <fangorious> yigal-epw: no idea, although i don't think i've seen it down for so long i had to ask on irc
[08:05] <slavik> prof: "dual monitors in linux" brings up some guides for gentoo/mandrake, see if those help
[08:05] <mitrovarr> slavik:  still can't believe there isn't a good app to set that stuff up easily in X
[08:05] <nanotube> fangorious, yigal-epw: see this:
[08:05] <prof> i have the basic dual monitor set up. i'm just not sure how to get it so that i can drag a program from monitor to monitor
[08:05] <nanotube> !forumsdown
[08:05] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[08:06] <nanotube> mitrovarr: yea, indeed. :)
[08:06] <slavik> mitrovarr: you mean configuring x?
[08:06] <Candyman> prof, have you tried Brightside?
[08:06] <mitrovarr> prof:  What are you using?  Xinerama, nvidia/ati's special drivers, or seperate screen configs?
[08:06] <slavik> mitrovarr: linux lacks a lot of easy configuration things
[08:06] <nanotube> slavik: still here eh? :)
[08:06] <slavik> going to go sleep now ...
[08:06] <prof> i'm using ati's driver
[08:06] <mitrovarr> slavik:  yeah, to set up dual monitors and stuff.  If I could code I'd do it myself, I can just SEE the app. :-p
[08:06] <slavik> aparently, by being quiet I am keeping half the building awake :-\
[08:06] <prof> no, i haven't tried brightside. haven't heard of it
[08:06] <fangorious> thanks nanotube
[08:07] <mitrovarr> prof:  and you can't just drag from one to the other?
[08:07] <prof> no
[08:07] <slavik> night all
[08:07] <prof> it's 2 different desktops, basically. the mouse can travel back and forth, but nothing else
[08:07] <nanotube> say holy_cow, where does one get w32codecs? its not in universe or multiverse...
[08:07] <fangorious> anyone know if nautilus-sendto in dapper has bluetooth support?
[08:08] <mitrovarr> prof:  that sounds like two discrete screens.  That's the way I used to have it set up
[08:08] <nanotube> nishant: did you open up synaptic package manager?
[08:08] <fangorious> !binaryformats
[08:08] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, fangorious
[08:08] <wizardjames> i have a prob,   i got two harddrives,    one with windows , the other with ubuntu i dont use duel boot. but i can easyly switch the cords around for what i want to boot.  now this is the first time i have tryed to hook both harddrives up, with the ubuntu one being the main.     it gets to the loading screen then it says mountng root file somethin or other then just hangs there..
[08:08] <prof> if i use the extended desktop setting in fglrxconfig, though, it's just one big desktop that goes through both. so if i wanted to maximize a program it would go across both of them, which isn't what i want either
[08:08] <nishant> dats wat i am askin???
[08:08] <Candyman> prof: I don't know if it'll work for you, but I use it to traverse workspaces
[08:08] <nishant> how do i open it???
[08:08] <mitrovarr> nanotube:  http://ubuntuguide.org has instructions for w32codecs
[08:09] <eli> !winmac
[08:09] <ubotu> No idea, eli
[08:09] <nanotube> nishant: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AddingRepositoriesHowto
[08:09] <eli> !winmac_fstab
[08:09] <ubotu> eli: I give up, what is it?
[08:09] <mitrovarr> prof:  you might try xinerama
[08:09] <mitrovarr> prof:  but if the native ATI drivers don't work, I don't know what to do.  I use nvidia, and their native drivers work really well.
[08:09] <prof> ok, i'll look into it
[08:09] <prof> thanks
[08:10] <Azunai> God damn! why are the forums down
[08:10] <Candyman> yep, no problem
[08:10] <eli> i just installed an ati driver
[08:10] <Candyman> hope it works for you
[08:10] <eli> it worked like a charm
[08:10] <Azunai> i bet you the answer to my problem is on the forums
[08:10] <mitrovarr> prof:  oh, one other thing, I think window manager might matter, so it might be worth trying KDE if you use gnome, or gnome if you use KDE
[08:10] <prof> hm. ok
[08:10] <anavim> hmmm... what happened to the ubuntu wiki how-to-get-help page?
[08:10] <nanotube> thanks mitrovarr
[08:10] <mitrovarr> prof:  the window manager has to be conscious of the long screen/dual monitor configuration to act intelligently, you see.  Yours isn't which is why you're getting maxamized across windows and such.
[08:11] <nishant> yup i opened Synaptic->Repositiories
[08:11] <mitrovarr> prof:  I don't get that with the nvidia twinhead driver.  It's probably just a matter of my x server detecting my setup and not yours.
[08:11] <nishant> i have to add now i guess???
[08:11] <fangorious> anyone using dapper?
[08:11] <nishant> but how to??
[08:11] <wizardjames> ubuntu fails to boot when i add my other harddrive.  why would this happen?
[08:11] <nanotube> nishant: yes, click add, and check the two checkboxes for universe and multiverse, nad click ok
[08:11] <mitrovarr> wizardjames:  Are they set to cable detect or master/slave?
[08:12] <anavim> nm ,I found it
[08:12] <nanotube> nishant: and then you can search for gstreamer in packages
[08:12] <Candyman> wizardjames: it's probably changing the device numbering, which would throw off grub
[08:12] <ejofee> wizardjames: everything else boots, except for ubuntu?!
[08:12] <wizardjames> mitrovarr,  its SATA harddrives,    (ubuntu sees them as scsi.. )
[08:12] <nanotube> nishant: and install whichever ones you want
[08:12] <prof> i'm not sure if my window manager can be concious of anything. where do i download that program ;)
[08:12] <nishant> okie wait
[08:12] <mitrovarr> wizardjames:  Oh... I don't know anything about SATA.  But I think the guy is probably right about drive numbering.
[08:12] <wizardjames> well, ubuntu boots..it just hangs when it says its monting dev..or something, forget what it was
[08:12] <Azunai> alright in everyones opinion if i wanna play 3d games like hl2 quake3 etc whats the best linux distro to get?
[08:12] <Candyman> hmmmm...that's weird
[08:13] <Candyman> Azunai, maybe gentoo
[08:13] <Candyman> I hear they have packages for a lot of those
[08:13] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Well, I know I've made games to work in ubuntu, and it seems to work pretty well.  Mine are ut2004 and neverwinter nights.
[08:13] <Candyman> ...but then again, if you're going to game heavily you don't really want to be using Linux
[08:13] <wizardjames> gentoo..  what fun that is,   its great.. just to install it you need alot of skill..
[08:13] <Candyman> I use 2k4 in Ubuntu, also
[08:13] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Gentoo is probably better, but it's god-awful to install.
[08:14] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  I took one look at the installation procedure and ran like hell
[08:14] <Candyman> hehe
[08:14] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  Do you have the problem that it fails to run if your desktop is in a lower res than the game is set to?
[08:14] <nanotube> azunai: unfortunately, windows. :|
[08:14] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  like if I set it to 1600x1200 and my desktop is 1024x768 it won't run.  It's easily worked around, but annoying.
[08:14] <Candyman> mitrovarr: never tried it...don't get good enough framerates to bother with 2k4
[08:15] <Candyman> lemme check really quick
[08:15] <Azunai> mitrovarr, ive installed gentoo before but couldnt get Xserver working
[08:15] <nanotube> well guys, im off to get somme sleep. ttyl
[08:15] <wizardjames> hmm, so any ideas what to do, when i add my other harddrive it just hangs.  i could restart and try it and see what the message is..write it down maybe..lol     would that help
[08:15] <Azunai> mitrovarr, took me 2 days :P
[08:15] <Azunai> gentoo i think is the answer :)
[08:15] <nishant> Thanx NanoTube
[08:15] <Azunai> emerge is such a nice command :P
[08:15] <nanotube> wizardjames: yea, write it down, and then google it. probably will come up with something useful
[08:16] <nanotube> nishant: no prob. ttyl
[08:16] <nishant> U were a Great help
[08:16] <wizardjames> rite, well i will be backl
[08:16] <nishant> bbye
[08:16] <nanotube> nishant: you are welcome. ;)
[08:16] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Well, if you have the skill to optimize it and get it running, it's probably better.  If you can't something easier might be in line.  I don't know why you're looking to linux for a gaming OS, though... your choice in games will be limited.
[08:16] <Candyman> mitrovarr: Actually, I apparently can't select any resolutions higher than my desktop rez to run it at
[08:17] <Candyman> mitrovarr: ...either that or it just doesn't want to run in 1600x1200 at all
[08:17] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  Oh yeah, that too.  You have to set your desktop higher, than set the game higher, than drop the desktop to make it not run.  I forgot about that.
[08:17] <Candyman> mitrovarr: Well then don't do that. :-P
[08:17] <BAki> hi, i've been using ubuntu for a while and i like. i wanted to implement ubuntu in our school here in the philippines.
[08:17] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  it's obnoxious, because I run the gave at 1600x1200 (good video card) but my desktop at 1024x768 (don't wanna go blind)
[08:17] <Candyman> mitrovarr: You can turn up the font sizes ;-)
[08:18] <BAki> I just have one problem, does the ubuntu team have something publish like an easier training manuals for secondary students?
[08:18] <holy_cow> hi BAki that sounds cool
[08:18] <Azunai> mitrovarr, because believe it or not my bro has some linux installed his hardware isnt as good as mine he lives like 5 mins away from me yet on WOW and CSS he gets better fps than me in windows and a lower ping thats y :)
[08:18] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  I've tried that, and DPI settings, websites just don't implement them well enough to work
[08:18] <darkraider> i did a new install and typed "sudo root"
[08:18] <Azunai> mitrovarr, also all the shit assosiated with windows isnt an issue :P
[08:18] <GKJ> I am back everyone
[08:18] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  How's he play WOW with linux?
[08:18] <Candyman> mitrovarr: ahhhh...fair enough
[08:18] <Candyman> mitrovarr: Cedega?
[08:19] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  last I checked it didn't work right
[08:19] <mitrovarr> Candyman:  I haven't tested it, although after MUCH MUCH effort I FINALLY got Cedega to compile from CVS.
[08:19] <Azunai> mitrovarr, same way he plays all his other games either wine or cedega
[08:19] <Azunai> what release do i want its x86 right?
[08:19] <anavim> Azunai: you're on the same ISP as your brother?
[08:19] <GKJ> Who installed Ubuntu recently
[08:19] <Azunai> anavim, yup
[08:19] <Candyman> Azunai, what kind of processor do you have?
[08:20] <holy_cow> BAki, have you looked into edubuntu? ... other than that i don't think anyone has published such a manual.  perhaps you can contribute one ... perhaps even get your students to help you write one?
[08:20] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  I installed it a couple of days ago, but not for the first time.
[08:20] <Candyman> GKJ: How recently?
[08:20] <Azunai> GKJ, me about 40 mins ago
[08:20] <darkraider> i can not get into root i did a new install i went to the command line and typed "sudo root" it prompted me for a password i put in a password and I still cant "su root" it tells me bad password
[08:20] <GKJ> hi, mitrovarr
[08:20] <Azunai> Candyman, AMD athlon xo 3200+
[08:20] <GKJ> hi, Azunai
[08:20] <Azunai> *XP
[08:20] <GKJ> You both are I need
[08:20] <abeee> hey all
[08:20] <mitrovarr> hi
[08:20] <Azunai> GKJ,  hey man sup?
[08:20] <Candyman> Azunai, you want the x86 version
[08:20] <BAki> hahaha. that's far beyond reality here.
[08:20] <abeee> i am using linux right now..a dn really so confuse in using it
[08:20] <Azunai> Candyman, thanks :)
[08:20] <Candyman> np :-)
[08:21] <GKJ> Azunai, what do you do then?
[08:21] <BAki> our students here are only primary and secondary level.
[08:21] <abeee> frist.. could anyone here teach me how to set the layout in linux ?
[08:21] <Azunai> GKJ, what do u mean what do i do?
[08:21] <GKJ> Azunai: as I know, the system is quite simple one and have only a few functions
[08:21] <Candyman> darkraider, there is no root user
[08:21] <holy_cow> BAki, indeed, then look into edubuntu and help the project and create one your self.  it's hard for a FREE project to take everyones into account
[08:21] <darkraider> i need root
[08:21] <Candyman> darkraider, use sudo -s instead of su root
[08:21] <Azunai> GKJ, dude if ur asking questions about ubuntu i am the wrong person to ask trust me :P
[08:21] <GKJ> Azunai, what do you do with Ubuntu, that is, what kind of work do you want it to complete
[08:22] <BAki> I just would like to acquire a copy (if possible) of a training manual which much thinner that most books published.
[08:22] <holy_cow> BAki, i already told you, there is none
[08:22] <Azunai> LOL downloaded 60mb in 12 secconds lol
[08:22] <BAki> ahahhaha.
[08:22] <mitrovarr> BAki:  You could always print the online docs
[08:22] <BAki> ok. thanks.
[08:22] <GKJ> Azunai, you are modest, I am a absolutely a newbie in Ubuntu, I think everyone here can be my teacher
[08:22] <darkraider> will doing sudo -s enable me with root access
[08:22] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  What are you trying to do?
[08:22] <mitrovarr> darkraider:  Yes
[08:22] <J-_> errr, java's not working... how do i enable it for firefox.... i've went to the restricted formats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats changed the reposities used sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it still doesn't work...
[08:23] <nishant> Hey How do we use apt-get?????
[08:23] <BAki> the manuals are more on the operating system itself.
[08:23] <Azunai> GKJ, all i want from my os is for it to be diferent and support my hardware look good and work fast and work well with cedega :)
[08:23] <nishant> cud neone tell me???
[08:23] <darkraider> what should i put if it prompts me for a password
[08:23] <mitrovarr> darkraider:  your user password
[08:23] <GKJ> mitrovarr: I want to typeset my articles and download video and audio and chatting on the net and do some math job
[08:23] <BAki> i need a manual for the openoffice and most of the applications in the system.
[08:23] <GKJ> mitrovarr: is it too much for Ubuntu
[08:23] <Azunai> GKJ, an os to me is just a gui that i can play about with till i get bored and to play games on thats all i want from an os :)
[08:23] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  http://ubuntuguide.org will help you set up a lot of things
[08:23] <BAki> hahaha.
[08:24] <Azunai> ok i just downloaded the gentoo install cd? how do i burn it with linux?
[08:24] <holy_cow> BAki, go back to windows, no such thing exists here
[08:24] <GKJ> Azunai: the os is for fun?
[08:24] <BAki> ic.
[08:24] <Candyman> Azunai, do you have k3b installed?
[08:24] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  I don't know much about typesetting under linux.  Chatting is certainly possible.  Video and audio work well.  Math, I don't know about, depends on the specific task and whether software exists
[08:24] <darkraider> ok one more thing where is ndiswrapper installed at (I cant get online in ubuntu untill i setup my wlan
[08:24] <varsendagger> i just played halflife on cedega
[08:24] <Azunai> GKJ, for me its just a tool that looks good and thats it
[08:24] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  First of all, chatting is easy.  What protocol do you use to chat?
[08:24] <varsendagger> on ubuntu
[08:24] <mitrovarr> varsendagger:  How well did it work?
[08:24] <GKJ> mitrovarr: thanks for the site, I will browse it and if any question, I will bother you, hope you are available :p
[08:25] <Azunai> Candyman, no man im running gdm so ..
[08:25] <mitrovarr> what does everyone think of automatix?
[08:25] <BAki> holy_cow, thanks.
[08:25] <varsendagger> i have 128 mb of ram and a shit vide card so i don't really have a good way to judge
[08:25] <GKJ> mitrovarr: latex works perfect under linux, so it is the main reason I want to migrate from windows to linux
[08:25] <J-_> errr, java's not working... how do i enable it for firefox.... i've went to the restricted formats https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats changed the reposities used sudo apt-get install flashplayer-mozilla and it still doesn't work...
[08:25] <Candyman> Azunai, I think Ubuntu ships with a burner app (but I'm using k3b with gdm)
[08:26] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  Great.  I didn't know you knew how to use latex, I wouldn't exactly point the general population at it :-)
[08:26] <varsendagger> mitrovarr, yeah you should download the demo from transworld and give it a shot
[08:26] <GKJ> mitrovarr: I want to use irc client to chat and gaim, math job will use matlab
[08:26] <holy_cow> just a stab in the dark, anyone here manage to get lispbox running under ubuntu? nothing on google that is even in english on this topic
[08:26] <Candyman> Azunai, try GnomeBaker or Coaster perhaps
[08:26] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  Sounds like you have all those tasks nailed down, then
[08:26] <GKJ> mitrovarr: ok, I will turn to other for help, but thanks all the same
[08:26] <Azunai> Candyman, which one will burn an iso file?
[08:27] <mitrovarr> GKJ:  For audio and video, that guide should explain how to get the codecs.  I recommend Xine and Kaffeine.
[08:28] <darkraider>  mitrovarr: did you get my message
[08:28] <GKJ> mitrovarr: thanks for your recoomendation, I will google them and download to try
[08:28] <Candyman> Azunai, GnomeBaker can; dunno about Coaster (never used it)
[08:28] <mitrovarr> darkraider:  Yes, and I responded
[08:28] <Azunai> downloading gnomebaker now :)
[08:28] <mitrovarr> darkraider:  did you get those messeges?
[08:29] <Candyman> Azunai, nevermind about coaster...looks like they never released a stable version of it and there's no Ubuntu package
[08:29] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  For cd/dvd burning tasks, I like K3B myself
[08:29] <holy_cow> Azunai, why are you using linux tho if you want to play games?
[08:29] <darkraider> no
[08:29] <holy_cow> we're not exactly 'there' when it comes to 'high end' gaming support
[08:29] <mitrovarr> darkraider:  You can get ndiswrapper in synaptic.  It doesn't have to be downloaded.
[08:29] <GKJ> mitrovarr: entertainment is not the first thing I will take care of, math work and typeset will be first
[08:30] <darkraider> ty let me try now  mitrovarr
[08:30] <Azunai> holy_cow, because my bro has a distro of linux and uses wine / cedega combo and gets higher fps and lower pings than me same isp he lives like 5 mins away from me and his hardware isnt as good as mine
[08:30] <Azunai> holy_cow, so i wanna try it :)
[08:30] <holy_cow> Azunai, thats bizarre
[08:30] <Candyman> Azunai, he shouldn't be TBH
[08:30] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  I wouldn't change OSs for pings
[08:31] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Bad pings are probably not the OS's fault.
[08:31] <jldugger> sort of estoeric question: I installed the vgabios package -- where did it put the files?
[08:31] <Candyman> Azunai, his pings might be a bit better, but the hardware support is not as good as in Windows
[08:31] <holy_cow> Candyman, that statement is inaccurate... it
[08:31] <holy_cow> it's highly dependend on hardware
[08:32] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  you can go into synaptic, select the installed package, and right-click on it, go to properties, and then go to the 'installed files' tab to see them all and where they went.
[08:32] <Azunai> Candyman, i know man
[08:32] <phos-phoros> is it just me, or is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/ inaccessible
[08:32] <wizardjames> ok, i am back, the error..or more or less when it started to hang with the other harddrive attachted to the motherboard was    "mounting root file system"
[08:32] <Azunai> mitrovarr, as a matter of interest when was the last time u used windows?
[08:32] <woodywarty> Hi all
[08:32] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Half an hour ago, to play Neverwinter.  I didn't have enough disk space on my linux drive to keep it there.
[08:32] <woodywarty> How do I colorize my Bash shell output ?
[08:32] <dan_> woodywarty: hi
[08:32] <Candyman> phos-phoros, they're down until tomorrow
[08:33] <jldugger> mitrovarr, thanks!
[08:33] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  That was my other computer, though, this one's been running linux for weeks
[08:33] <phos-phoros> Candyman, thanks
[08:33] <Candyman> welcome :-)
[08:33] <Azunai> mitrovarr, lol man 99% of the time windows screws up ur ping due to inadiqute networking and the uincontrolable spyware
[08:33] <Candyman> Azunai, I wouldn't call spyware "uncontrollable"
[08:33] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Spyware is entirely controllable.
[08:34] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  I was a network engineering student for a while.  Ping is usually due to level 1 (hardware) issues, not software.
[08:35] <Azunai> mitrovarr, dude its down to windows been a shit os simple as that tbh spyware is uncortolable and the networking capabilities suck compared to linux
[08:35] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  Unless you have a serious malware infestation or your networking is really badly misconfigured, I doubt changing OSs will affect ping much.
[08:35] <Azunai> mitrovarr, in my opinon anyways
[08:35] <woodywarty> How do I list files and directories in color using the 'ls' command in BAsh
[08:35] <Azunai> mitrovarr, but hey im a linux noob :D
[08:35] <abeee> how to set the windows sizee in linux ?
[08:36] <mitrovarr> abeee:  You mean resize windows?
[08:36] <holy_cow> Azunai, it is strongly recommended to take your personal opinion and shove it aside for a bit when someone with more experience is trying to help out :)
[08:36] <holy_cow> just a tip :)
[08:36] <holy_cow> you will find on the whole learning a lot easier
[08:36] <holy_cow> :)
[08:36] <Candyman> woodywarty, man ls
[08:36] <Candyman> woodywarty, look at the --color section
[08:36] <Azunai> holy_cow, i dont disagree holy i was just staing what i think about windows thats all
[08:36] <abeee> yupe
[08:37] <woodywarty> thanks Candyman
[08:37] <Candyman> yep, glad to help
[08:37] <mitrovarr> abeee:  just grab the edge of the window and drag
[08:37] <abeee> mitrovarr : how to set up the windows size in desktop ? its too small.. its to hard for me to see the word
[08:37] <Candyman> (assuming that actually does help)
[08:37] <jldugger> well, one might say that a claim that "99 percent of the time windows screws up your ping because of poorly written networking and malware infestations" is easily misconstrued as a statement of fact rather than opinion
[08:38] <Azunai> dow do you install a .deb ffile?
[08:38] <Candyman> Azunai, dpkg -i <name>
[08:38] <mitrovarr> abeee:  Put the mouse pointer on the edge of the window until you get an arrow pointing into a line, click and drag until the window is resized in that dimension until it is the size you want.
[08:38] <Azunai> thanks
[08:38] <wizardjames> hmm, does anyone know why my system hangs on bootup at "mounting root file system"  when i add another harddrive
[08:38] <jldugger> Ironically, most of window's networking problems are derived from vendor's drivers.
[08:39] <jldugger> wizardjames, how big is the drive?
[08:39] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I think most user's problems stem from the poor security, both due to spyware/virus infestation and due to overhead for defensive sweepers and firewalls
[08:39] <abeee> i am not resiae the folder but the windows sizae in desktop ? i dont see any line when i go to the eade of the windows
[08:39] <wizardjames> its 120 gigs jldugger  ...
[08:39] <jldugger> wizardjames, which fs?
[08:40] <mitrovarr> abeee:  Sorry, I'm just not sure what you're trying to ask about exactly.
[08:40] <wizardjames> jldugger,   its ntfs,   i got music files i want to access from my ubuntu install on it
[08:40] <jldugger> well, ntfs and reiser both appear to take a long time to mount
[08:40] <Candyman> wizardjames, your root filesystem isn't NTFS, is it?
[08:40] <mitrovarr> Azunai:  I think I'm in a prime place to test, actually.  I have a working ubuntu and a working winXP, and UT2004 installed on both.  I am fairly certain I don't have spyware.  Let me compare pings real fast.
[08:41] <abeee> ok.. hmm mitrovarr.. can u just teach me in easy way.. how to set the deskop size in 800x600
[08:41] <daschl> abeee edit your xorg.conf
[08:41] <abeee> sorry bothering ua lot
[08:41] <Azunai> mitrovarr, sure let me know the results :)
[08:41] <abeee> >.<
[08:41] <mitrovarr> abeee:  OH, that's easy.  Go to system, preferences, screen resolution
[08:41] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i would restate that in another way, most windows issues stem from the user refusing to learn or even acknowledge that to properly admin a computer one must have the skills to do so.  industry tells them 'customer is always right' and there by extension it turns into 'it is okay to be an idiot and not take responsibility for your actions'
[08:42] <jldugger> wizardjames, I'm guessing you need to be careful of how the drives are added. if you add another drive and it accidentally becomes hda1, the root filesystem has effectively moved
[08:42] <wizardjames> ok,  i got one harddrive dectacated to ubuntu , its 250 gigs ,   all ext3 with a ext2 20 gig partion just incase for other stuff,  then i got another harddrive that has my windows on it.
[08:42] <abeee> oks
[08:42] <abeee> thx alot
[08:42] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  That's exactly right.  But I do think windows has some truly bad security problems that aren't due to user dumbness.
[08:42] <abeee> mitrovarr.. i got it thx alot.. and sorry.. but i am really the new bie in linuxx
[08:42] <Azunai> mitrovarr, ^^^
[08:42] <wizardjames> they are sata drives jldugger.  i got my ubuntu on slot 1, and windows on slot 2 when the error happens
[08:43] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  like everyone running in administrator all the time, because everything requires it
[08:43] <jldugger> hmm
[08:43] <jldugger> id try putting in a live CD and seeing what's up
[08:43] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, ubuntu has a similar configuration too ...
[08:44] <abeee> mitrovarr : i wanna using linux as my server to manage the bandwtich.. is this linux ubuntu version support it ?
[08:44] <holy_cow> because no one is told that the first user is LIKE ADMINISTRATOR on windows ...
[08:44] <daschl> mitrovarr you can run it as an admin, because windows doesnt give a damn about home user security ;)
[08:44] <holy_cow> ... no one actyually sets up a second account to run from
[08:44] <wizardjames> but if i remove (unplug from the motherboard)  my windows hardrive, and just have my ubuntu one in. it works
[08:44] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  no one ever runs as root in ubuntu, and administrators can't do mean things without getting checked for their password
[08:44] <holy_cow> i.e. what happens now is we have a bunch of users with 3 letter passwords running ubuntu desktops
[08:44] <jldugger> holy_cow, even if people WANTED to run with limited user accounts in windows, theres serveral barriers to doing so.
[08:44] <holy_cow> one clever shell script and adios
[08:44] <Azunai> holy_cow,  lol
[08:44] <Candyman> wizardjames, are they both SATA drives?
[08:44] <mitrovarr> abeee:  you'll have to be more specific as to what you want to do exactly.  Server for what?
[08:44] <tonyyarusso> Really quick q?: How do I reload a module?
[08:44] <wizardjames> yes Candyman
[08:45] <mitrovarr> daschl:  That's what I was saying... it's just a bad way to do things
[08:45] <Azunai> ok cd burned :P
[08:45] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, we
[08:45] <gia> My internet won't work if I have both my eth0 and eth1 (wifi) turned on.  Any suggestions?
[08:45] <Azunai> man some things are so much more eisier in linux than windows
[08:45] <metalsand> Hi, I just installed Ubuntu - but am having issues with my screen's resolution. The only option I have is 1024x768 while my screen's native resolution is 1280x800.
[08:45] <holy_cow> we'll see how it works out i guess, it has worked fine for osx
[08:45] <jldugger> holy_cow, afaik sudo style access isn't provided, and most games require administrator access
[08:45] <Candyman> gia, turn one of them off ;-)
[08:46] <metalsand> Do I need to install graphical drivers to get resolutions for my laptop?
[08:46] <jldugger> metalsand, try turning down the Hz first
[08:46] <Azunai> il brb guys
[08:46] <Candyman> metalsand, what video drivers are you using?
[08:46] <metalsand> jldugger: There's only 1 option for Hz, too.
[08:46] <tonyyarusso> gia: I ran into the same thing; just turned one off.
[08:46] <holy_cow> jldugger, thats only before win2k, games written for winxp as far as i've seen take permissions into account? no?
[08:46] <metalsand> Candyman: I have no idea.
[08:46] <Candyman> ahhhh
[08:46] <Candyman> k
[08:46] <metalsand> Candyman: I Just installed Ubuntu
[08:46] <jldugger> holy_cow, hell no.
[08:46] <abeee> mitrovarr : i have 20 computer in my network. and want to use linux as my server also as an router to manage all the computer bandwtich in my network... ? what i want is to everage all the bandwtich in each computer.. could i do that in ubuntu ?
[08:47] <holy_cow> jldugger, your kidding?
[08:47] <jldugger> games written for xp/win2k explicitly ASK for Admin privledges, so they can make sure you arent stealing it
[08:47] <holy_cow> people run games as root?
[08:47] <holy_cow> wow
[08:47] <jldugger> and maybe stop cheaters
[08:47] <gia> Candyman, tonyyarusso, this computer is a gift for a friend of mine, that would be a royal pain to train her at
[08:47] <mitrovarr> abeee:  You mean file server?  File serving and routing can both be done, without problems
[08:47] <holy_cow> jldugger, holy moly thats incredible, i thought it all changed?
[08:47] <metalsand> So like, can anyone help? :x
[08:47] <mitrovarr> abeee:  stuff like configuring network bandwidth limiting will be hard to configure, though
[08:47] <metalsand> This resolution is painful to look at.
[08:47] <mitrovarr> abeee:  certainly beyond anything I know how to set up
[08:48] <jldugger> holy_cow, the only thing that changed is that the publishers put "requires administrative access" on the box
[08:48] <abeee> ok but could provide me some FAQ website or what ever to learn to ?
[08:48] <wizardjames> hmm. well this just sucks .  wonder why i cant get it to work..   odd ...really odd..
[08:48] <tonyyarusso> gia: Hmm...Does she need to use both on a regular basis?  You could make one not start by default.
[08:48] <wizardjames> maybe i will reinstall ubuntu with both harddrives in..
[08:48] <ssstormy> hello, I've installed DVD::rip, but there is no entry in the menu.  I can fix this, but in my memory there was an entry in the past when I've installed it before.  Anyone know?
[08:48] <jldugger> punkbuster etc all require access to everything so they can make sure you're not cheating. not that it really helps
[08:48] <holy_cow> jldugger, wow.  i am speechless
[08:48] <Candyman> metalsand, can you go to a terminal and type "less /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and look for the line in the Device section that says Driver on it please, then let me know what it says?
[08:48] <wizardjames> ssstormy,  dvd::rip is very old
[08:48] <mitrovarr> abeee:  I wish, but I don't know any myself.  I'd just google for the specific tasks you want.  Do you want to be a file and print server to windows machines?
[08:48] <gia> tonyyarusso, yes she needs both.
[08:49] <ssstormy> wizardjames, is there a newer better one?
[08:49] <abeee> no
[08:49] <tonyyarusso> gia: Can you explain what for, so we have an idea of what sort of options might make sense?
[08:49] <abeee> only manage the network bandwtich.
[08:49] <jldugger> holy_cow, well, its kind of required if you're planning on inspecting all processes to make sure they arent hax0ring the online games.
[08:49] <wizardjames> ssstormy,  the last update for it was in 2003 , iirc  theres a few programs that do the same..  forget the names
[08:49] <abeee> my server is using windows right now.. and the bandwitch management is very week
[08:49] <askbollen> hi, can anyone confirm that there are problems involved with installing 64-bit ubuntu on sata hdd's?
[08:49] <metalsand> Candyman:       Driver          "i810"
[08:49] <mitrovarr> abeee:  Sorry, I don't know how to do that, or where there's a faq.  I guess I'd google for it.
[08:50] <abeee> so i chose to using linux.. but i am really new biee in linux so i am here to asking for help ..
[08:50] <Candyman> ok thx
[08:50] <gia> tonyyarusso, at home she's only got wi-fi.  At school she's only got wired (no, I didn't get that reversed)
[08:50] <holy_cow> jldugger, its unnacceptable from a security point of view imho
[08:50] <BAki> abeee, try using linux censornet.
[08:50] <abeee> mitrovarr : never mind.. u really help me alot thx guyzz
[08:50] <wizardjames> whats a downloading program better then limewire?
[08:50] <abeee> baki : whats that ?
[08:50] <BAki> i'm using it right now.
[08:50] <BAki> its a proxy server.
[08:50] <abeee> oh ic
[08:50] <abeee> can i manage a network bandwithc ?
[08:50] <jldugger> holy_cow, the impression i get is that game publishers dont care. their users generally dont care or at least dont understand the implications
[08:50] <gia> wizardjames, what are you trying to download?
[08:50] <BAki> yup. you can.
[08:51] <wizardjames> gia,   anything.
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> gia: Okay.  And you're thinking opening the System > Administration > Networking windows would be too much hassle.
[08:51] <Candyman> in the same file, could you look in the Display subsection of the Screen section and tell me the first entry in the Modes line?
[08:51] <abeee> does ubuntu have that additonal application ?
[08:51] <wizardjames> gia,  i forget what its called..    gtk  something
[08:51] <BAki> i'm not sure about that, abee.
[08:51] <abeee> so what linux u are using now ?
[08:51] <abeee> what version ?
[08:51] <tonyyarusso> gia: It might be possible to create some quick scripts with launchers on the desktop to serve the same purpose.
[08:51] <Candyman> metalsand, in the "Depth 24" section
[08:51] <abeee> mitrovarr : ^^ thx alot
[08:52] <BAki> i'm using ubuntu, censornet, and RH9
[08:52] <ssstormy> this is curious
[08:52] <abeee> weww
[08:52] <holy_cow> jldugger, the latter is clear the former i thought was taken care of  ... now i will be completely advising against gaming on windows at all.  they should just get an xbox or whatever
[08:52] <ssstormy> there are a small flock of menu entries installed to /usr/lib/menu
[08:52] <abeee> censornet is it an OS or kind of sofware using in linux ?
[08:52] <ssstormy> that are of course not used
[08:52] <metalsand> depth 1
[08:52] <metalsand> Modes "1280x800"
[08:52] <Candyman> metalsand, in the "Depth 24" section please
[08:52] <BAki> ubuntu for clients,  RH for WEbserver, and censornet for proxy.
[08:52] <abeee> baki : is censornet is an operating system ?
[08:52] <BAki> yup
[08:53] <jldugger> holy_cow, as far as i can tell the only way publishers will start caring is when someone sues them for being hacked through the game.
[08:53] <abeee> oh i c
[08:53] <metalsand>       DefaultDepth    24
[08:53] <metalsand>         SubSection "Display"
[08:53] <metalsand>                 Depth           1
[08:53] <metalsand>                 Modes           "1280x800"
[08:53] <metalsand> Candyman: That?
[08:53] <Candyman> metalsand, yeah
[08:53] <BAki> it is still linux based.
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> gia: As in, a launcher named "School" that runs a script checking to see if the wi-fi interface's up, taking it down if yes, and bringing up the wired interface.  Then one called "Home" which would do the opposite.  All she'd have to do is click the appropriate icon on the desktop for her location.
[08:53] <abeee> i c..
[08:53] <holy_cow> BAki, how do you find censornet, i've been looking for something like this actually, thx for the accidental heads up :)
[08:53] <tonyyarusso> Anyone have feedback on that suggestion ^^ ?
[08:53] <ssstormy> wizardjames, you have any suggestions? synaptic dosn't seem to be finding anything (all the regular ubuntu breezy reps, including multi and uni)
[08:53] <Candyman> metalsand, well darn...I was hoping that was the problem, but it looks fine
[08:53] <BAki> download.
[08:53] <holy_cow> jldugger, ha! as if, they will just pull out the dmca legislation in the us or whatever.
[08:53] <metalsand> Candyman: Is there a file where I can manually add resolutions?
[08:54] <BAki> il look for the site first. i forgot.
[08:54] <ubuntu> i need help .. i need the password of root in the live version of ubuntu
[08:54] <abeee> so ubuntu still dont have the function just like clinux censornet.
[08:54] <holy_cow> jldugger, that basically  answers the question if linux will ever get games, and the answer is no, the fundamental distrust between publisher and user cannot be breached
[08:54] <jldugger> and good luck with that, given the EULA says "YOU AGREE NOT TO SUE US IF OUR SOFTWARE IS BUGGY, BORING, NOT MERCHANTABLE, OR CAUSES YOUR COMPUTER TO SPAM PAYPAL PHISHING EMAILS"
[08:54] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: By default there is no root password; use sudo.
[08:54] <BAki> there 's no root password for the ubuntu by default
[08:54] <jldugger> holy_cow, there's a few games out there.
[08:54] <Candyman> metalsand, upon further inspection, is that the only Subsection "Display" in that file?
[08:54] <metalsand> Candyman: No
[08:54] <jldugger> ut2k4, and probably 2kwhatevercomesnext
[08:54] <ubuntu> i did su root and i asked for password
[08:54] <holy_cow> jldugger, i'm aware of them :) the industry will never swing over tho, not with that attitude.
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> Really quick q?: How do I reload a module?
[08:55] <BAki> abee. i'm not sure about that.
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: So don't su root.
[08:55] <metalsand> There's many, with the only value changing Depth
[08:55] <Candyman> metalsand, is there one that has Depth 24 inside of it?
[08:55] <tonyyarusso> ubuntu: sudo -i.
[08:55] <Candyman> ok
[08:55] <Candyman> thx
[08:55] <BAki> maybe there. i haven't discovered it yet.
[08:55] <BAki> hahahaa.
[08:55] <metalsand> 1, 4, 8, 15, 16, 24.
[08:55] <abeee> lolz
[08:55] <ubuntu> thanks
[08:55] <jldugger> holy_cow, the industry is pretty much aware that PC gaming is dying anyways. the XBOX just prodded the last few into realizing it.
[08:55] <Candyman> metalsand, well, if you were going to manually specify a resolution it would be in that file
[08:55] <holy_cow> jldugger, thats a pretty good point
[08:55] <metalsand> They're all 1280x800.
[08:56] <metalsand> I remember going through this when I first installed Ubuntu
[08:56] <Candyman> metalsand, those sections list all the different resolutions that are supported at each color depth
[08:56] <abeee> baki : what do u prefeer to use if u want to set up a server only to manage the bandwtich in a network ? i mean what version will u use for linux ? red head or what ever ?
[08:56] <metalsand> I had to do something to get my correct resolution to function
[08:56] <askbollen> sorry for asking this again :) are there known issues when installing ubuntu 64 on SATA drives?
[08:56] <Candyman> metalsand, so in theory it should only be able to run at 1280x800 according to that...which is weird
[08:56] <B1zz> i would like to use my ubuntu box as a backup server to backup my 2 winxp boxes and my other ubuntu laptop what software would you recomend?
[08:56] <Toma-> has the ati (gpl) driver got a max res? or is it monitor specific?
[08:56] <abeee> Baki : do you have any messenger ? can i add u in my friend list ?
[08:57] <mitrovarr> Blzz:  well, if you're going to copy files over a network to back things up from winxp machines, I'd probably use samba
[08:57] <johanbr> B1zz: If you're comfortable with some shell scripting, rsync. Otherwise I don't know.
[08:57] <gia> nope, I didn't know you could do it that way ;-)  the only admin I ever do with the gui is gui admin
[08:57] <gia> tonyyarusso, Problem with that, the window is too big for 1024x768, and the screen won't do anything higher (it won't really do anything lower either, it just reduces visible space)
[08:57] <jldugger> holy_cow, its possible that the OS X migration to intel could spell some changes in PC gaming, but the possiblities of that change include total death.
[08:57] <gia> and the admin button can't be clicked
[08:57] <abeee> Baki : u there ?
[08:57] <munzir> hi sirs, yesterday I did an update that update the kernel on my system. Now ubuntu don't boot and says file not found or similar. why? so?
[08:57] <B1zz> hehe dont know any shell scripiting.... you have a link to get me started?
[08:58] <Toma-> jldugger, could mean that game designers will be more willing to port to other OS's?
[08:58] <B1zz> samba? to back up? i though it was just a type of protocol?
[08:58] <holy_cow> jldugger, it also includes the requirement of access to root account just like on windows ....
[08:58] <tonyyarusso> gia: What window is too big?  The whole desktop?
[08:58] <Candyman> metalsand, take a llok at http://forums.suselinuxsupport.de/lofiversion/index.php/t10212.html
[08:58] <mitrovarr> Blzz:  well, yeah, I didn't know you already had a way to throw files over the network
[08:58] <BAki> wait, i'm still installing something
[08:58] <jldugger> Toma-, or it could mean that the market becomes fragmented enough that nobody makes a living and we're forced to enjoy Yahoo! Spades.
[08:58] <B1zz> :)
[08:58] <B1zz> thank you tho :)
[08:58] <johanbr> B1zz: www.tldp.org/HOWTO/Bash-Prog-Intro-HOWTO.html
[08:59] <B1zz> sweet thanks johanbr
[08:59] <Toma-> i hate yahoo spades :~<
[08:59] <abeee> ok
[08:59] <jldugger> holy_cow, you'll remember that DOOM used to require root access.
[08:59] <mitrovarr> Doom required root access on linux machines?  Man, I bet THAT didn't fly well.
[08:59] <holy_cow> jldugger, not 3 right?
[08:59] <abeee> hey all.. really want to hear ur suggest here.. what version of linux will u use if u want to set up a server to manage the internet bandwtich to each computer in ur network ?
[08:59] <jldugger> holy_cow, not 3.
[09:00] <jldugger> doom the xvgalib game
[09:00] <jldugger> err svgalib
[09:00] <holy_cow> *nod* never ran that
[09:01] <gia> tonyyarusso, no, the network settings
[09:01] <soutine> abeee: "you" and "your" - not that hard to type, really...
[09:01] <jldugger> maybe the death of PC gaming will mean OSS games get better.
[09:01] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  We can only hope.  I know of less than 5 that I'd play, personally.
[09:02] <jldugger> crack-attack!
[09:02] <tonyyarusso> gia: I'm a bit confused by what's happing.  The network settings window is too big to fit on the screen?
[09:02] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  Never seen that one.  My short list is lbreakout2, frozen-bubbles, Ur-quan masters (think it's OSS, it's definitely free), katomic, and a couple of others.
[09:02] <gia> tonyyarusso, yep.
[09:03] <PsySine> isn't wine available for x86_64?
[09:03] <jldugger> crack-attack is awesome
[09:03] <jldugger> apt-get it today!
[09:03] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I really wish they wouldn't suffer from such an irritating excess of penguins.  Yeah, I know, it's the linux mascot, but there are times and places...
[09:03] <Candyman> PsySine, I don't think so
[09:03] <abeee> soutine : i am sorry.. its my habit to simple in that way
[09:03] <PsySine> Candyman: then what should I do?
[09:03] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  you should try ur-quan masters if you haven't.  It's a linux version of star control 2, a really great old game
[09:04] <Candyman> PsySine, for what?
[09:04] <sirbijan> hi ppl
[09:04] <PsySine> typespeed owns!
[09:04] <jldugger> mitrovarr, i tried it, but i think its one of those games that youd have to have appreciated back when it was the best thing out there.
[09:04] <PsySine> Candyman: should I compile it or what?
[09:04] <sirbijan> I forgot that package which gives me lots of themes for GNOME, would you please gimme the name?!
[09:04] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I don't know, I picked it up later... but maybe my fond old memories of starflight influenced me there.
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> gia: Interesting.  In my experience that's not a very big window.  But you've tried all the things for fixing resolution, and that's not it?
[09:05] <jldugger> mitrovarr, standard PC technique of dropping you off in the middle of some unexplained circumstance with no idea of the goals methods or gameplay.
[09:05] <tonyyarusso> gia: Alt-Click will let you drag things too, if that helps temporarily.
[09:05] <metalsand> Can someone link me to a good sources.list for repositries?
[09:06] <jldugger> mitrovarr, crack-attack, despite sounding like a rootkit, is actually a neat tetris attack clone
[09:06] <gia> tonyyarusso, I'm running kde because I refuse to subject my friends to the tyrany of raise-window-on-click which gnome mandates
[09:06] <metalsand> I'm following the one off of http://ubuntuguide.org/#extrarepositories and I get errors when I apt-get update
[09:06] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I was just looking at it.... is it obligatory multiplayer?
[09:06] <abeee> mitrovarr : can i add u in my messenger list ?
[09:06] <jldugger> its got a single and multiplayer modfe
[09:06] <jldugger> mode
[09:06] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  Oh.  Perhaps that's what that 'solo' button does.
[09:07] <tonyyarusso> gia: I could be wrong, but I'm almost positive you can turn that off.  (I am running Gnome myself.)
[09:07] <mitrovarr> abeee:  I don't think I can really offer much help for what you're doing, past what I've already said
[09:07] <jldugger> yea, the front-end is pretty new to linux. win32 had one written in VB for a long time, but linux only had a CLI until recently
[09:07] <gia> tonyyarusso, Tell me how, I tried to make gnome do it for about four hours before I gave up
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> gia: So even if that's out, would the script launcher on the desktop work?  That could be right in the middle so it wouldn't be an issue.
[09:08] <BAki> abee. try www.censornet.com
[09:08] <Pegsu> I am still having problems in not being able to access multiverse packages through synaptic. "Could not resolve 'fi.archive.ubuntu.com'"
[09:08] <tonyyarusso> gia: Let me get Gnome up and I'll see if I can find something.
[09:08] <johanbr> gia: Run gnome-window-properties from a terminal.
[09:08] <abeee> Baki : hmmm ok thx alot
[09:09] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  crack-attack looks pretty good.  But I don't think we'll ever see games that are competitive with modern big-budget games from OSS...  just not enough people or enough money to set them up
[09:09] <jldugger> mitrovarr, I donno. look at the number of people who make games for free.
[09:09] <jldugger> Counter-Strike
[09:09] <jldugger> Day of Defeat
[09:10] <jldugger> Natural Selection
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> gia: Well, it's certainly not obvious if it's true.
[09:10] <jldugger> Desert Combat
[09:10] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  Yeah, but they didn't make the engine, and those are always made for extremely popular games.
[09:10] <tonyyarusso> Power-Gnome-users: Can raise-window-on-click be turned off, as apparently it can in KDE?  How?
[09:10] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  But I see your point:  if OSS put out a good engine (which is possible) and computer gaming went away, maybe the old modmakers would make games for it.
[09:11] <BAki> welcome
[09:11] <jldugger> hell, Q3A is GPL'd
[09:11] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  True, but that isn't why it was made.  It's just abandonware with nice owners.
[09:11] <progrock> I just installd windows on my hda1 partition.. I think i overwrote the MBR.. how do I fix it so grub loads instead of just windows
[09:12] <tonyyarusso> !tell progrock about grub
[09:12] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  of course, that does have some similarity with the staroffice -> openoffice situation
[09:12] <sirbijan> hey, may I ask my question?
[09:12] <abeee> i am really getting nut seeing linux version.. really got a lot of version of it... and confuse to chose
[09:12] <abeee> >.<
[09:12] <johndarkhorse> sirbijan: ask
[09:12] <johanbr>  tonyyarusso: As I wrote a few minutes ago, run gnome-window-properties .
[09:13] <gia> johanbr, switching to gnome on my other machine to try it out
[09:13] <tonyyarusso> johanbr: Sorry, didn't see that.
[09:13] <sirbijan> thank you johndarkhorse
[09:13] <mitrovarr> jldugger:   Well, it's always possible, I just haven't seen free games competitive with commercial games in the same way that OSS apps and operating systems are.
[09:13] <sirbijan> it's a very simple question: I want a web address or sth to access lots of themse for my GNOME
[09:13] <jldugger> part of the question is why the modmakers are making their choices. if it's because of a quality set of tools, then OSS has a chance if the right people recognize this. if its because there's a history of making money giving away mods and being "purchased" by a company, well thats a bit more dicey
[09:13] <sirbijan> I also heard it's a package availabe for doing that
[09:13] <sirbijan> but I forgot the name
[09:14] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sirbijan about themes
[09:14] <sirbijan> hey, is ubotu a bot?!
[09:14] <Pegsu> sirbijan, yes
[09:14] <metalsan1> FATAL: command 'wlanctl-ng eth2 lnxreq_ifstate ifstate=enable >/dev/null 2>/dev/null' failed.
[09:14] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I think it's a matter of modmakers wanting to be cutting edge, mostly.  I don't think OSS has ever offered a good engine for gaming, and certainly not one competitive with current commercial games.
[09:14] <sirbijan> is it automatic?
[09:15] <metalsan1> What does that mean? :x :x
[09:15] <Pegsu> yup
[09:15] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sirbijan about yourself
[09:15] <sirbijan> oopse!
[09:15] <sirbijan> How can I work with it?
[09:15] <sirbijan> thank you!
[09:15] <sirbijan> it's so funny!
[09:15] <sirbijan> lets see if I can do it
[09:15] <johanbr> sirbijan: Look at art.gnome.org or install the package gnome-art, which gets you an art selector.
[09:15] <sirbijan> ubotu, tell johndarkhorse about sirbijan
[09:15] <sirbijan> did it work?!
[09:16] <Pegsu> sirbijan, I thibk you could do things a bit easier by !thing, like
[09:16] <Pegsu> !ntfs
[09:16] <ubotu> it has been said that ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[09:16] <gia> johanbr, I'm not seeing how to disable it on my fedora machine.  All I get is "Select windows when the mouse moves over them" "raise selected windows after an interval" "double-click titlebar to perform this action:  " and "to move a window, press-and-hold this key then grab the window:"
[09:16] <metalsan1> Can someone help me get the correct resolution for my laptop?
[09:16] <jldugger> mitrovarr, ogre3d looks promising.
[09:16] <tonyyarusso> sirbijan: Well, no.  There's no factoid about you, nor should there be.  Also, don't spam the channel with bot use, do /msg ubotu factoid.
[09:17] <jldugger> mitrovarr, the demos were rather pretty on my roommate's computer
[09:17] <mitrovarr> jldugger:  I'll have to take a look sometime.  I think it's probably more promising to expand and update
[09:17] <tonyyarusso> gia, johanbr: That's what I have too.
[09:17] <sirbijan> ok, sorry, how can I register my name in here tonyyarusso ?
[09:17] <mitrovarr> jldugger: the q3a engine if it's really gpled, but I haven't seen it, maybe it's good.
[09:17] <jldugger> ogre3d is like crystal space except the people behind it arent retarded
[09:17] <sirbijan> and what's a factoid?
[09:17] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell sirbijan about register
[09:17] <rudiz> is de english forum of ubuntu down?
[09:18] <johanbr> gia: Oh, I think I understand now. Is that it you want windows in stay in the background, even when clicked? If so, you'll probably have to switch to another window manager.
[09:18] <jldugger> factoid: truthy not facty ;)
[09:18] <arrinmurr> rudiz: yes
[09:18] <rudiz> :(
[09:19] <mitrovarr> so does anyone know if it improves performance to use the 686/k7 kernels as opposed to the 386 kernel?
[09:19] <tonyyarusso> gia: Sounds like you were right after all.  Oops on me.
[09:19] <gia> johanbr, yeah, you got it.  That's why I personally made the switch to kde
[09:19] <sirbijan> rudiz, yes, they're down
[09:20] <johanbr> gia: Or you could use something like openbox instead of metacity. Works well under gnome.
[09:20] <progrock> I just reinstalled grub after messing up my mbr when installing windows.. but now how do I get windows to show up in grub?
[09:20] <tonyyarusso> progrock: The grub-install didn't auto-detect it?
[09:21] <johanbr> gia: But I agree with you that moving to kde is looking better all the time. I think Linus had a point with the whole "dumbing down" flamewar.
[09:21] <gia> johanbr, that just went over my head, unless openbox and metacity are window managers, and even if they are, I've never toyed with window managers and know nothing about them ;-)
[09:21] <metalsand> Can someone help change my resolution?
[09:21] <mitrovarr> johanbr:  I know it bugs the hell out of me every time I try to find a gnome option and it isn't there...
[09:22] <gia> johanbr, I was personally shocked to see that, but yes, he has.
[09:22] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  Have you tried system -> preference -> Screen resolution?
[09:22] <johndarkhorse> ubotu: tell metalsand about fixres
[09:22] <metalsand> The only option limited under preferences is 1024x768, while my monitor's native resolution is 1280x800
[09:22] <Nameeater> !fixres
[09:22] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:22] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  Ah.  Do you know your horizontal and vertical refresh rates?
[09:22] <rbo159> !fixres
[09:22] <metalsand> mitrovarr: No idea.
[09:22] <metalsand> I'll read the wiki, though. Thanks Nameeater
[09:22] <abeee> whats i really DHcP using for ?
[09:23] <johanbr> gia: openbox and metacity are indeed window managers. Not really more complicated than doing "apt-get install openbox" and "openbox --replace &".
[09:23] <rbo159> !fixres
[09:23] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[09:23] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  you on a CRT or an LCD?
[09:23] <sirbijan> REGISTER whatever
[09:23] <sirbijan> oopse, it doesn't work!
[09:24] <metalsand> mitrovarr: LCD
[09:24] <fli7e> abeee, DHCP is a way of automatically obtaining an ip address from your router
[09:24] <metalsand> It's a laptop.
[09:24] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  I'm not exactly sure how to set it up, then, but I have an idea
[09:24] <wj> how do i install firefox 1.5 thorough apt?
[09:25] <gia> johanbr, hrm, and you know I would be able to achieve this with openbox?
[09:25] <johndarkhorse> wj: you don't
[09:25] <superm1> Hello all, I see that the forums are still down (at least I can't connect through my ISP).  I'm not really looking for an ETA, but i'm kinda curious if anyone really knows what happened?
[09:25] <wj> how do i make apt upgrade software to its latest version then?
[09:25] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  do "sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"  and check the display subsection in the screen section
[09:25] <sirbijan> johndarkhorse, can I PM you now? the bot told me how to register my nick name, but I'm so stupid, I don't seem to get it
[09:26] <johanbr> gia: I have to admit I don't know for sure, but openbox is so customizable that I'd be very surprised if you couldn't.
[09:26] <Nameeater> sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[09:26] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  Add 1280x800 to the modes line for the color modes you want to use
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> !tell wj about firefox1.5
[09:26] <abeee> ok thx
[09:26] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  hopefully that will make the mode available
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> wj: You wait until it's in the apt repos.
[09:26] <tonyyarusso> wj: Or you do it manually.
[09:27] <wj> where can i find up-to-date apt repos?
[09:27] <mitrovarr> metalsand:  if it's already there, then you need to turn your refresh rate down before you try to select it in the resolution choose, like others have said
[09:27] <tonyyarusso> !tell wj about sources
[09:27] <johanbr> gia: Now I know for sure: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/rc.php . Search for "raise" on that page.
[09:28] <gia> E:  Couldn't find package openbox
[09:28] <johanbr> gia: Really? Which release are you using?
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> gia: It's in universe.
[09:28] <hannes__> sers
[09:28] <hannes__> hi
[09:28] <sirbijan> tonyyarusso,  can I PM you now? the bot told me how to register my nick name, but I'm so stupid, I don't seem to get it
[09:28] <Mtraker> hi
[09:28] <tonyyarusso> sirbijan: Sure...what was your thing again?
[09:28] <hannes__> srs
[09:29] <sirbijan> hi hannes__
[09:29] <hannes__> wos geiitn?
[09:29] <wj> ic.. but it doesnt have the latest versions right?
[09:29] <Mtraker> Can I install Alias maya in ubuntu?
[09:29] <hannes__> hi sirbijan
[09:29] <sirbijan> I type REGISTER <mypassword> to register my nick, but it doesn't work
[09:29] <abeee> why i cant detect my other hard drive in linux ? after using linux one of my hard drive is missing ?
[09:29] <sirbijan> I'm new to IRC
[09:29] <mitrovarr> metalstorm:  any luck?
[09:29] <sirbijan> how's it going hannes__ ?
[09:29] <hannes__> yes you can
[09:29] <tonyyarusso> wj: Depends on the software.  Not for firefox right now; that's only in Dapper.
[09:29] <hannes__> 
[09:30] <wj> ic
[09:30] <TokenBad> is there a way to find out info about your cable modem in ubuntu...
[09:30] <TokenBad> ?
[09:30] <hannes__> @sirbijan: everything ok, and you?
[09:30] <sirbijan> the same!
[09:30] <hannes__> @sirbijan: m or f?
[09:30] <johanbr> TokenBad: Depends on the modem. Some of them can be accessed via telnet or www.
[09:30] <sirbijan> hey dude, come on, this is not place for that, certainly m!
[09:30] <Mtraker> I have a problem with maya, I cann install maya but can't runing the program.
[09:31] <gia> tonyyarusso, ty
[09:31] <TokenBad> its a motorola
[09:31] <wj> what are backports?
[09:31] <TokenBad> but I want to know like what bit it uses and stuff
[09:31] <TokenBad> bin even
[09:31] <tonyyarusso> sirbijan: Did you read the instructions from /msg nickserv help register?
[09:31] <johanbr> TokenBad: "what bin" ?
[09:31] <B1zz> sirbijan try this link it helped me out to register nick.  http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[09:31] <TokenBad> yeah I think the tech did something to my modem
[09:32] <Mtraker> ubuntuforums it's down now?
[09:32] <sirbijan> yup I did, thank you tonyyarusso & B1zz , I do it now
[09:32] <wj> thanks!
[09:32] <TokenBad> see in windows you have tools like dhcpforce
[09:33] <johanbr> TokenBad: If they can be accessed at all, the IP is usually 192.168.something. Try 192.168.0.1 or 192.168.1.1.
[09:33] <TokenBad> but I want to know what he did to my modem
[09:33] <TokenBad> I check the web menu..but it not give me the info I want
[09:34] <johanbr> TokenBad: In that case I don't know. Sorry.
[09:34] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Has something about it changed?
[09:35] <TokenBad> its gets speeds faster that it should
[09:35] <gia> okay, so how do I tell it to switch my window manager to openbox again?
[09:35] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  You mean it exceeds your connection's rated speed?
[09:35] <TokenBad> and am scared if comcast says something they will blame me
[09:35] <ZyELLowMAN2> help?
[09:35] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, yes
[09:35] <johanbr> gia: metacity --replace &
[09:36] <TokenBad> see I called comcast...cause I was only getting 3mbit speeds
[09:36] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  I don't think the tech could have changed that from your modem, if that was true people would ALWAYS be hacking into those things.
[09:36] <TokenBad> when I should be getting like 8mbit
[09:36] <fek> moin
[09:36] <TokenBad> he didn't do it from my modem
[09:36] <Nameeater> how does one configure a printer over the network? I need to add it to that pc but its a headless box
[09:36] <TokenBad> he did it from outside the house...using 2 laptops
[09:36] <TokenBad> and it took him 2 hours
[09:36] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  well, how could they blame you when their equipment is misconfigured?
[09:37] <TokenBad> my speed should be 8mbit but looks
[09:37] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  It sounds like what they changed wasn't something you have access to, something on their end.  I doubt you can do anything about it from your end, if you could then people would always be hacking their internet speeds to make them faster.
[09:37] <tonyyarusso> johanbr: Uh, wouldn't that switch it back to metacity?  Before you said openbox --replace &, I thought.
[09:37] <TokenBad> Upload: 46.53K/sec [||||||||||] , Download: 2540.00K/sec [||||||||||] 
[09:37] <gia> johanbr, is there a way to make it so that if I load kde, kwin will come up, and if I load gnome, openbox will come up?
[09:37] <zito> hello
[09:37] <TokenBad> look at my download
[09:38] <zito> wa it's beautiful
[09:38] <viper12> Just curious, as the forums seem to be down...........is there anything special that needs to be done swapping out an ide cdrom burner with a dvd burner?
[09:38] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Is that Kbits or Kbytes?
[09:39] <TokenBad> I was told he could have hacked my modem
[09:39] <TokenBad> but using um
[09:39] <shingouz> viper12: just replace it
[09:39] <TokenBad> etherape I have seen it at 11mbit
[09:39] <osfameron> gah, skype is still rubbish on breezy
[09:39] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  I seriously doubt that you set the connection speed on your end.  They'd be fools to set it up that way, since people would always be hacking into the things to speed them up.
[09:39] <johanbr> gia,tonyyarusso: Sorry, that should of course be "openbox --replace &", I misread the question. The easiest way of saving the setting from gnome is to shut down all programs except for the ones you want to start automatically and then run "gnome-session-save".
[09:39] <osfameron> doesn't install, and Qt is still ugly as sin
[09:39] <viper12> I did.  it copies beautifully........it reads perfectly, but it produces coasters.  (looks like stuff has been written on disc, but nothing is readable.
[09:39] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Are you sure that what you were reading wans't post-compression speed?
[09:39] <shingouz> viper12: of course if you want to burn something with it you will need the dvdtools but physically... just replace
[09:40] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, so you don't think I could get in trouble?
[09:40] <osfameron> !skype
[09:40] <ubotu> skype is, like, http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SkypeHowto/ Breezy deb: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SeveasPackages/
[09:40] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, I downloaded a 1.7 gig iso in 25 mins
[09:40] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  I *seriously* doubt it.  I mean, seriously, you're barely over speed anyway.  I bet it's 8m is just the rated speed and it's supposed to be able to go higher when conditions are right
[09:40] <gia> johanbr, ty again
[09:40] <viper12> shingouz, I thought I'd already gotten those.  There are no errors when burning...........just nothing happening.  I'll check on dvdtools to see if its on system or not...didn't even think about that.
[09:40] <johanbr> TokenBad: From what I've heard of Comcast, they couldn't find their own ass with the help of a map, flashlight and a proctologist. I wouldn't worry.
[09:41] <TokenBad> ok thanks..
[09:41] <TokenBad> was just wondering if there was a tool to do that
[09:41] <sirbijan> one more question!
[09:41] <Nameeater> forums down again?
[09:41] <sirbijan> It takes a long time for me to install a package with apt-get, is there anyway that after the package is downloaded, I can copy it somewhere that after another installation of ubuntu, I don't have to get it through apt-get again?
[09:41] <shingouz> viper12: cdrecord can handle the cd's just like with a cdburner but the dvd's need a bigger hammer
[09:41] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Probably, but it's probably a tool that they have, that affects their end.  You should not be able to change your own speed.
[09:42] <Chousuke> TokenBad: If you have ordered a 8Mb connection and they give you more, it's their loss.
[09:42] <Chousuke> I wouldn't complain :D
[09:42] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, I mean that would let me check thinks like windows dhcpforce does
[09:42] <nitrous> hey i just installed ubuntu and apache 2.2 and i'm trying to get php 5.1.2 installed..i have it downloaded but can't install it...anyone able to help?
[09:42] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Your ISO download speed is within line with your 11 mbps number from earlier, I checked
[09:43] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  I don't know what dhcpforce is.  I haven't personally used it, so I can't tell you
[09:43] <Chousuke> I would love such a connection
[09:43] <mitrovarr> Me too, I only get 4 mbps
[09:43] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, its a program that you put your mac address in..and then it gets like the bin file you use along with other info of your modem
[09:44] <nitrous> anyone able to help me with php5?
[09:44] <tonyyarusso> Is there a way to find out an IP address by mac addr?
[09:44] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  Ah.  Sorry, no idea if there's something like that.  But I wouldn't worry about the overspeed thing, I mean, most people wouldn't even notice it
[09:44] <viper12> shingouz, I've got that pack on.  I swapped out the drives, but didn't even think about an issue as the drive 'reads/copies' perfectly.  writing to the drive with nautilus gives no errors, but nothing readable is the result.  Popping disc back in shows it as a blank.  (testing disc on other machines also shows that it appears empty...although tracks have been written.
[09:44] <TokenBad> but it will not work with ubuntu...I already tried
[09:44] <TokenBad> heheh
[09:44] <Chousuke> tonyyarusso: they're not related
[09:44] <tortho> my wifi card "got lost" after a dist-upgrade to Dapper.. How do i get it back.. ifup says no such device
[09:44] <mitrovarr> TokenBad:  I'd guess that 8mbps is just the estimated/guaranteed speed and that it works a little faster is just serendipitous and nice
[09:44] <khermans> tonyyarusso, yes -- use arping
[09:45] <nitrous> E: Couldn't find package php5
[09:45] <nitrous>    anyone able to help with this?? lol
[09:45] <tonyyarusso> khermans: Ah, very well.
[09:45] <shingouz> viper12: umhh... a gui burner? hmm... i like the cli and cdrecord most of the time
[09:46] <khermans> viper12, how about gnome burner?
[09:46] <viper12> shingouz, just testing, I've used gnomebake, the natilus gui drag drop.
[09:46] <nitrous> someone want to even acknowledge that i'm here???
[09:46] <shingouz> nitrous: looks like you are here
[09:47] <tonyyarusso> nitrous: I acknowledge your existence, but can't answer your question.
[09:47] <nitrous> hah thanks...but can anyone answer my question?
[09:47] <johanbr> viper12: If you look at the CD, you can tell if anything's been burned onto it. Is there anything there?
[09:47] <viper12> all apps are 'successful' and eject the disc normally when complete with the burn..............but nothing is readable.  Its almost as if the disc wasn't 'fixed' at the end of the process.
[09:47] <nitrous> all i'm doing is trying to install php can't be very difficult i've done it in redhat a long time ago
[09:47] <viper12> yes the disc has tracks written to it.  dvd-r disc...but same issue with dvd+r as well.  no +-r/w available to test.
[09:47] <kubiat> cz
[09:48] <kubiat> cze
[09:48] <kubiat> :] 
[09:48] <kubiat> jest      tu jaki Polak
[09:48] <kubiat> ??
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> !pl
[09:48] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[09:48] <tonyyarusso> How's that?
[09:49] <kubiat> Hey I have problem!
[09:49] <Pegsu> Good for you!
[09:49] <nitrous> lol
[09:49] <kubiat> lol he he
[09:49] <kubiat> :p;
[09:49] <TokenBad> mitrovarr, ok thanks for helping with this...I was just worried...
[09:49] <TokenBad> thanks again
[09:50] <johanbr> viper12: Try "dd if=/dev/dvd of=/tmp/blah bs=1024 count=1000" and then run "file /tmp/blah". That copies the first meg of the dvd to a file and then tries to tell you what type of file it is. What does that print?
[09:51] <fek> isn't there still a soloution for my problem with breezy and my dell 2001 fp? after i upgraded from hoary to breezy i couldnt't use the screen anymore, because when i start it with it's native resoloution and start x i get a green screen and everything hangs.
[09:51] <damasta> Question regarding gnome applets. Some people have a system monitor that runs in the panel. What is that called. I checked all my applets and never found it.
[09:52] <johanbr> fek: I think your best bet is to file a bug.
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> damasta: Probably gkrellm.
[09:52] <fek> johanbr: i did
[09:52] <johanbr> fek: To no avail?
[09:52] <damasta> tonyyarusso, nah, this one is similar to the icewm one
[09:52] <B1zz> i use gdesklets
[09:52] <tonyyarusso> damasta: What B1zz said.
[09:52] <damasta> This one is actually embedded in the panel
[09:52] <fek> johanbr: what?
[09:53] <topyli> damasta: system monitor
[09:53] <fek> i am stil lwaiting for a soloution :(
[09:53] <johanbr> fek: and no solution was found?
[09:53] <fek> waiting == still three weeks
[09:53] <wizardjames> got a question. say i have 2 harddrives, first one with nothing, 2ed with windows (working fine) (first one is new, nothing on it.. ) i plan to install ubuntu on the first one..with nothing on it. can it mess up the MBR on the 2ed harddrive?
[09:53] <tortho> fek: tryed with option "noAccel" in the x conf file?
[09:54] <damasta> topyli, yep, thanks. Too obvious I suppose...lol
[09:54] <topyli> heh
[09:54] <tonyyarusso> wizardjames: Can it?  Yes.  Will it without you telling it to?  No, it shouldn't.
[09:54] <mitrovarr> wizardjames:  It certainly shouldn't.
[09:54] <viper12> johanbr,  dd: reading `/dev/hdc': Input/output error
[09:54] <viper12> 0+0 records in
[09:54] <viper12> 0+0 records out
[09:54] <viper12> 0 bytes transferred in 0.014587 seconds
[09:55] <viper12> my device is on hdc not dvd
[09:55] <wizardjames> hmm , odd becasue i had to pull every string i know to get my MBR back on my 2ed harddrive after it removed it
[09:55] <fek> tortho: yes and with vesa as driver... i have a intel 855 gm in my notebook
[09:55] <johanbr> viper12: Okay, that mean's there's nothing readable on that disk at all. Did you say you can read other cd's/dvd's with that drive?
[09:56] <tonyyarusso> wizardjames: Probably just wasn't the primary one.  The 2nd drive would be chainloaded through grub.
[09:56] <tortho> is there a config tool for hardware, something like "search for new hardware"?
[09:56] <topyli> wizardjames: grub will "mess up" the mbr on the disk you boot from. grub will only read the second drive, it won't touch it otherwise
[09:56] <viper12> oh just sec johanbr....my bad.  let me swap for the coaster I've burnt already. duh.  (put the wrong disc on. lol.)
[09:56] <wizardjames> hmm, i donno, its still messed up. i didnt think i would get windows back for a sec. think i iwll wait till tommorw till i get the rest of my new computer.. and put this one into pure server with its own harddrive.. keep my windows one by its self
[09:57] <gia> gia@neptune:~$ I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/rc.xml"
[09:57] <gia> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml"
[09:57] <gia> (openbox:7749): ObParser-WARNING **: unable to find a valid menu file '/var/lib/openbox/debian-menu.xml'
[09:57] <gia> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/debian-menu.xml"
[09:57] <gia> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/etc/xdg/openbox/debian-menu.xml"
[09:57] <gia> (openbox:7749): ObParser-WARNING **: unable to find a valid menu file 'debian-menu.xml'
[09:57] <gia> I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/gia/.config/openbox/menu.xml"
[09:57] <topyli> tortho: new hardware are searched at every boot
[09:57] <wizardjames> !pastebin
[09:57] <topyli> gia: please don't
[09:57] <ubotu> [pastebin]  a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[09:57] <shingouz> lets see: ubuntu 5.04, 2.6.10-5-386 kernel and a frigging Conexant HSFi winmodem. i can dial but the pppd dies before getting the dns with "code 16, a modem hung up the phone". hints appreciated
[09:58] <viper12> johanbr, dd if=/dev/hdc of=/tmp/blah bs=1024 count=1000
[09:58] <nitrous> sudo apt-get install php4     doesn't work..anyone able to help?
[09:58] <viper12> 1000+0 records in
[09:58] <viper12> 1000+0 records out
[09:58] <viper12> 1024000 bytes transferred in 0.463349 seconds (2209997 bytes/sec)
[09:58] <fek> and i am alone with the problem again.... perfect
[09:58] <cafuego> nitrous: Doesn't work how?
[09:58] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: You have the driver from Linuxant?
[09:58] <tortho> topyli: i guessed so, but Dapper can't see my wireless network card, even with the old kernel from Breezy....
[09:58] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: yup
[09:58] <nitrous> cafuego it tells me E: Couldn't find package php4
[09:58] <cafuego> $EDITOR Thank you for not pasting in the channel.
[09:58] <viper12> and the second command yields:   file /tmp/blah
[09:58] <viper12> /tmp/blah: ISO 9660 CD-ROM filesystem data 'Personal Data, Jan 22, 2006
[09:58] <cafuego> grr
[09:58] <cafuego> nitrous: *nod* Are you after the apache module, apache2 module, command line or cgi version?
[09:59] <topyli> tortho: maybe hotplug or whatever is broken in dapper, dunno
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Probably a stupid question, but you have the one that matches your kernel version?
[09:59] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: the very one :)
[09:59] <johanbr> viper12: Alright, so it definitely recognizes that disc as having a filesystem. Are you saying you can't mount it?
[09:59] <nitrous> cafuego: i already have apache2 installed and that all works..now i am just trying to get php running so i can run sites in php aswell
[09:59] <cafuego> nitrous: You want 'libapache-mod-php4' then.
[09:59] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: What are you using to dial?
[09:59] <tortho> topyli: I just get an device not found when trying to bring it up.
[09:59] <johanbr> gia: I wouldn't worry too much about that, it just complains about some non-existent config files. As long as it still runs, it should be okay.
[09:59] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: wvdial
[09:59] <nitrous> cafuego: so just downloading the php-5.1.2.tar.gz wont help?
[10:00] <viper12> no johanbr after it completes burning, and ejects (all normal btw), the disc isn't 'readable'.  in other words, ubuntu thinks its blank when inserted again.  tested on 2 other machines, and they see no files either.
[10:00] <gia> johanbr, right, but those config files are the way I can turn on sloppywhatever
[10:00] <cafuego> nitrous: No, that would be a bad idea[tm]   (and not give you php4)
[10:00] <cafuego> nitrous: You can either install libapache2-mpd-php4 or libapache2-mod-php5
[10:00] <nitrous> cafuego: why go with php4 and not php5?
[10:00] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: d***.  So far you've pretty much echoed the setup I've used successfully on two different computers.  I was hoping you'd answer something differently.
[10:01] <cafuego> nitrous: 4 has been around far longer, less likelihood of weirdness.
[10:01] <nitrous> cafuego: well thats a good thing...so just download it from php site and it should install?
[10:01] <johanbr> viper12: What happens when you do "mount /dev/hdc /mnt" ?
[10:01] <cafuego> nitrous: No, you don't download anything from any site, just 'sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5'
[10:01] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: i am very very tempted to run outside and get a hardware modem for this one but that would mean i would have to go outside which is always scary
[10:01] <cafuego> nitrous: it's all already IN Ubuntu. All you need to do is install the package.
[10:01] <gia> johanbr, can you send me the link to the openbox config options again?
[10:02] <virogenesis> cannot execute binary file <--- what would cause that? i'm doing sudo sh ./
[10:02] <johanbr> gia: http://icculus.org/openbox/2/rc.php
[10:02] <theine> nitrous, or search for mod-php in Synaptic
[10:02] <cafuego> virogenesis: The file isn't a shell script?
[10:02] <gia> johanbr, ty
[10:02] <nitrous> Cafuego: i tried that and it told me sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php4
[10:02] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Phone a friend, and have them order one for you online!
[10:02] <soap> i need help
[10:02] <virogenesis> it is thats the thing
[10:02] <cafuego> nitrous: Well, there you go then.
[10:02] <viper12> johanbr, this:  mount: block device /dev/hdc is write-protected, mounting read-only
[10:03] <soap> mysql failed when started
[10:03] <cafuego> virogenesis: ODes the first line perhaps refer to a shell that doesn't exist?
[10:03] <viper12> which makes sense as it is a -r after all.
[10:03] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: or i could always get on a bike and scoot off to zeer rangsit real quick, it is around the corner for me a couple of more days
[10:03] <johanbr> viper12: Looks alright to me. If you do "ls /mnt" you should see your files now.
[10:03] <nitrous> cafuego: sorry it says " Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php4
[10:03] <nitrous> "
[10:03] <soap> it says   "error: 'Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/var/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)'
[10:03] <soap> "
[10:03] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php4
[10:03] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php4: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 4:4.4.0-3ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1515 kB, Installed size: 3096 kB
[10:03] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Whatever floats your boat I guess.
[10:03] <soap> who can help me
[10:03] <cafuego> !info libapache2-mod-php5
[10:03] <ubotu> libapache2-mod-php5: (server-side, HTML-embedded scripting language (apache 2.0 module)), section web, is optional. Version: 5.0.5-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1823 kB, Installed size: 3980 kB
[10:04] <theine> nitrous, the go with php5
[10:04] <cafuego> nitrous: Welp, they both certainly exist in breezy.
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> soap: Ask your question first.
[10:04] <viper12> johanbr,  a bunch of machine language garbage finishing with input/output error.
[10:04] <soap> sos
[10:04] <nitrous> cafuego: i'm not sure what breezy is?
[10:04] <theine> nitrous, sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5
[10:04] <cafuego> nitrous: the php5 one is in main, for the php4 one you'll need to enable universe.
[10:04] <theine> nitrous, try that, please
[10:04] <cafuego> nitrous: Breezy should be the Ubuntu version you're using (5.10).
[10:04] <tonyyarusso> nitrous: Ubuntu 5.10 codenamed "Breezy Badger".
[10:04] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: heh... actually i would like to make this one work without having to get another modem. works nicely on "the other operating system" and dials nicely on the real os but the pppd pains me
[10:04] <johanbr> viper12: Definitely looks like a bad burn then. Is DMA turned on on your burner?
[10:05] <nitrous> Couldn't find package libapache2-mod-php5
[10:05] <viper12> yes it is johanbr , but I'll double check that again.
[10:05] <soap> mysqld.sock doesn't exist
[10:05] <soap> how to create it
[10:05] <viper12> johanbr, yep its on.
[10:05] <nitrous> cafuego: alright so it is on 5.10 i just need to activate it and it can't find it...hmm
[10:05] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Tried reinstalling the driver?
[10:05] <cafuego> soap: By starting mysql-server.
[10:06] <soap> but i failed
[10:06] <johanbr> viper12: Is your motherboard VIA, by any chance?
[10:06] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: augh. dpkg --remove && dpkg --install? or just a dpkg-reconfigure?
[10:06] <cafuego> nitrous: Check for typoes. Otherwise, use synaptic and simply install it via the interface.
[10:06] <theine> nitrous, can you post /etc/apt/sources.list over at http://pastebin.com ?
[10:06] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Try reconf first, and go from there.
[10:07] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: lets give it a whack. /me gets a bigger hammer
[10:07] <viper12> laptop johanbr .  compaq x1000 512meg ram intel centrino 1.3ghz, 80 gig hitachi drive, the new burner is a pioneer dual layer capable 8x .  the old drive was a cdrom/dvd combo with cdrom burner.
[10:07] <soap> i need help
[10:07] <virogenesis> bash: /bin/unrar: Permission denied
[10:07] <virogenesis>  <--- what the hell?
[10:07] <nitrous> cafuego: i'm not sure what synaptic is? and no typos
[10:07] <cafuego> nitrous: Synaptic is the GUI package manager.
[10:07] <tonyyarusso> Really quick q?: How do I reload a module?
[10:07] <theine> nitrous, synaptic won't help you in this case either
[10:07] <cafuego> virogenesis: unrar never lives in /bin
[10:07] <johanbr> viper12: Is the burner connected over usb?
[10:08] <cafuego> virogenesis: /usr/bin/unrar
[10:08] <viper12> no. second ide channel as master.  (same as the old burner was. )  just unplugged the old one and put the new one in.
[10:08] <viper12> .......while the machine was powered off...........heh heh
[10:08] <virogenesis> i did whereis unrar cafuego and it told me that location
[10:09] <theine> virogenesis, try "locate unrar"
[10:09] <theine> virogenesis, sorry, I meant "which unrar"...
[10:09] <virogenesis> thanks thechris
[10:09] <virogenesis> grrr
[10:10] <virogenesis> thanks theine
[10:10] <theine> virogenesis, welcome
[10:10] <viper12> The OS was installed with the cdrom burner....this feels like its trying to burn with cd commands instead of dvd commands. (just a guess).  As I KNOW the drive does burn, and it reads/copies perfectly, its almost as if the OS still thinks that its a cdrom burner. -again guessing.
[10:10] <nitrous> cafuego: i tried using synaptic and it wasn't in the list on there..nothing to do with php was on there
[10:10] <theine> nitrous, I told you...
[10:11] <nitrous> theine, what do you suggest?  and it was still a cool program to check out nonetheless lol
[10:11] <johanbr> viper12: I've occasionally had problems on my laptop with DMA turning off mid-burn (stupid kernel). If you're sure that's not happening, my only remaining guess is a hardware problem. Bad IDE cable, maybe.
[10:11] <theine> nitrous, you need to fix your repository list
[10:11] <nitrous> how do i do that?
[10:12] <theine> nitrous, first, post your /etc/apt/sources.list at pastebin.com
[10:12] <nitrous> deb cdrom:[Ubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badger_ - Release i386 (20051012)] / breezy main restricted
[10:12] <mitrovarr> viper12:  Are you sure the drive works?  My friend had a drive fail recently just like that (tried to burn, but disks were blank)
[10:12] <nitrous> that good enough?
[10:12] <theine> nitrous, no, that's not enough
[10:13] <theine> nitrous, you need to add online repositories
[10:13] <theine> nitrous, do you see any lines containing the words "main" or "restricted" that are commented out
[10:13] <nitrous> http://pastebin.com/518788
[10:13] <theine> nitrous, I mean commented...
[10:13] <nitrous> almost all of it is commented
[10:14] <viper12> mitrovarr,  the discs aren't blank though.  tracks are being written, and its very obvious that they are.  On my dvd burner at home, at completion of a -r disc burn, nautilus finishes by indicating its fixating the disc.  This isn't showing up with this laptop when same process is done.
[10:14] <yigal-epw> does anyone know why the ubuntuforums.org is down?
[10:14] <theine> nitrous, just uncomment all the lines starting with "deb" or "deb-src" and you'll be fine
[10:15] <nitrous> thanks man i'll give it a try and let you know
[10:15] <theine> nitrous, alright
[10:15] <theine> nitrous, you will need to run "apt-get update" afterwards
[10:15] <mitrovarr> viper12:  oh.  Well, if you think you are right about the bad detection thing, maybe try using K3B.  I use it to burn DVDs, and it tells you which programs it's using (cd vs. dvd ones>
[10:15] <yigal-epw> geez, more than 500 people and know one knows why ubuntu web forum is down
[10:16] <Pi> !forumsdown
[10:16] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[10:16] <borisattva> its being moved to a new server people
[10:16] <nitrous> theine, alright will do
[10:16] <theine> nitrous, or rather "sudo apt-get update"
[10:16] <borisattva> heh
[10:16] <yigal-epw> ubotu THANK YOU sorry for yelling
[10:16] <ubotu> yigal-epw: sure thing
[10:16] <nitrous> does sudo just make sure you are root or what does it do?
[10:16] <Seveas> yigal-epw, more than 500 people and one impatient person can't wait for all of them to rush to answer his very question...
[10:17] <theine> nitrous, it gives you root privileges
[10:17] <borisattva> 'super user do' it allows you to run the following command as if you were a user. provided you supply the password
[10:17] <nitrous> cool\
[10:17] <borisattva> rootuser*
[10:17] <nitrous> ya thats what i ment
[10:17] <nitrous> thanks
[10:17] <johanbr> viper12: Have you run cdrecord or growisofs from the command line? That should clearly tell you if anything goes wrong.
[10:17] <Seveas> !tell nitrous about root
[10:17] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: hmm.. could it be that the snd-intel8x0m and snd-atiixp-modem getting overridden by hsfmc97ich and hsfmc97sis have something to do with the code 16? enter the snd modules in the banlist, perhaps?
[10:17] <Seveas> nitrous, ubotu sent you a very interesting wiki link
[10:17] <borisattva> does it have bunny porn?
[10:17] <theine> nitrous, so in order to edit /etc/apt/sources.list, type "sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list"
[10:18] <nitrous> haha thanks i was just trying to get to that..was gonna try vi under su
[10:18] <viper12> johanbr, that was next step.  I was trying to eliminate the OS as the possible problem.  (This drive burnt a disc in another laptop before being moved to this one.)  I was surprised as hell to produce a coaster as it works in all other ways.
[10:18] <nitrous> seveas, you mean ubuntuforums.org?  if so i think that site has more downtime then up lol
[10:18] <Danl> whats a good package for wepkey management for multiple networks?
[10:19] <viper12> is there a command line option johan that you use to 'test'?  (as I do not use the command line utils for the burners all that often.)
[10:19] <theine> nitrous, well, "sudo vi /etc/apt/sources.list" would be even better of course...
[10:19] <shingouz> viper12: --dummy
[10:19] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: Worth a shot.
[10:19] <nitrous> sudo apt-get update
[10:20] <nitrous> lol woops this isn't the terminal
[10:20] <theine> nitrous, :)
[10:20] <johanbr> viper12: I don't use the command line for burning very often either, I have to admit. I second the suggestion of using k3b. When you burn you can click on something and it gives you all the gory details.
[10:20] <Danl> :)
[10:20] <nitrous> haha yeah i'm a linux noob
[10:20] <shingouz> tonyyarusso: does ubuntu have the banlist in some strange place? ;)
[10:20] <tonyyarusso> shingouz: I wouldn't know, sorry.
[10:20] <shingouz> heh
[10:21] <Danl> n/m i think i found a decent one on sourceforge, GWireless
[10:21] <ashrack> hi! first time on UBUNTU irc channel. Does anyone know why and when will www.ubuntuforums.org be operatoinal again? since I haven't been able to reach them in 3days so far???
[10:21] <viper12> the only 'irk' about k3b............means I"m loading kde libs.  Of course I'm also practical, so I'll snag that one.  Gnomebaker, btw, does show the drive properly as 'detected'....going off to install k3b now.
[10:21] <yigal-epw> as ubotu put it to me ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[10:22] <johanbr> Danl: Networkmanager is shaping up pretty well. Although I wouldn't recommend upgrading to dapper just yet. :)
[10:22] <cyphase> Network Manager is good in Brezy
[10:22] <Danl> johanbr, thanks, may try that one too
[10:22] <cyphase> not in main though
[10:22] <cyphase> Breezy*
[10:23] <Danl> kk
[10:23] <theine> nitrous, got disconnected... did "sudo apt-get update" work?
[10:23] <ashrack> ubuntu:oo sweey today. tanx guys
[10:23] <nitrous> theine, yes it did once i closed synaptic haha
[10:23] <theine> nitrous, right
[10:23] <viper12> johan and all, ty for the assist.  I'll suss it out.  Usually a quick search in the forums gets me on my way, but as they're down for a new server.........you guys are a big help.  ty.
[10:24] <johanbr> viper12: You're welcome. I hope you get it figured out.
[10:24] <mitrovarr> so does anyone know if you get a performance boost by using the k7 or 686 kernels as opposed to the generic 386 one?
[10:24] <theine> nitrous, so what about "sudo apt-get install libapache2-mod-php5"? now
[10:24] <nitrous> theine, i used php4 but yes it installed correctly thank you
[10:24] <theine> nitrous, nice
[10:24] <nitrous> only thing is it still tries to download the file when i browse to the site with a .php extension
[10:25] <Danl> mitrovarr, yes and no
[10:25] <nitrous> and i tried restarting apache but same thing
[10:25] <Danl> it does give better performance, but often if it goes unnoticed for average users.
[10:25] <mitrovarr> Danl:  how so?  I figured that things like 3dnow might not work with the wrong kernel
[10:25] <mitrovarr> Danl:  ah
[10:25] <cyphase> Network manager is standard in Dapper, right?
[10:25] <cyphase> or is going to be anyway..
[10:26] <selinium> nitrous, THe file is in your /var/www folder?
[10:26] <nitrous> selinium, yes thats correct
[10:26] <Danl> generic i686 would be somewhat slower than say, something specifically aimed at athlon xp
[10:26] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Do you know if there's anything special you have to do in ubuntu to compile a new kernel?
[10:26] <Danl> haven't messed with ubuntus kernel, only gentoo's
[10:27] <johanbr> mitrovarr: A 386 kernel wouldn't use 3dnow, that's right. On the other hand, I don't think there's very much code in the kernel that uses 3dnow anyway. Even if you run a 386 kernel you can still run userspace programs compiled for k7.
[10:27] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Ah.  I tried compiling 2.6.15.1 but I got all kinds of wierd errors about devfs on boot.
[10:27] <johanbr> cyphase: Yes, I think so.
[10:27] <Danl> the reason behind it being slower is mostly about asm instruction sets, amd has all the x86 instructions same as intel, but both intel and amd have some xtra different codes as well
[10:27] <cyphase> cool
[10:27] <mitrovarr> johanbr ann Danl:  thanks for the help guys, I've been asking that all night
[10:28] <Danl> yw
[10:28] <johanbr> mitrovarr: No problem.
[10:28] <Danl> i admit i don't know a whole lot about nix, but that is one of the things i do know :-D
[10:29] <nitrous> theine, could it be something in my httpd.conf or should everything be in there by default cuz i looked in there and that all looks normal?
[10:30] <theine> nitrous, sorry, don't know, i'm no web server expert...
[10:30] <Danl> well im off to tinker, just had to do a full system reisntall, so i gotta lot of packages to download and install, should write a shell script to auto install certian things :-)
[10:30] <mitrovarr> Danl:  there's always automatix
[10:30] <phreaker> !automatix
[10:30] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:30] <Danl> lol
[10:30] <selinium> nitrous, i have only just joined the conversation, you are installing php5 on apache2 right?
[10:30] <mitrovarr> well, I like it.  It's half an hour to a working system.
[10:30] <Danl> may stick with the bash script idea ;-)
[10:31] <shingouz> Danl: a mental *not* sounds like a good idea
[10:31] <Danl> *note
[10:31] <johanbr> nitrous: I seem to remember someone else having that problem and the solution was reconfiguring apache to allow php scripts in that directory to run.
[10:31] <Danl> thanks amigos
[10:31] <shingouz> the not is better in this case..
[10:31] <Danl> au revior
[10:31] <mitrovarr> it is scary looking though.
[10:31] <robotgeek> Danl:
[10:31] <robotgeek> Danl: heh, hold on :)
[10:31] <Danl> ya?
[10:31] <nitrous> selinium, yes but php4...and apach2 is already on and working properly..i installed php4 just a minute ago...and restarted apache but it still is trying to downoad the .php files
[10:31] <polpak> !easyscript
[10:31] <ubotu> polpak: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[10:32] <nitrous> johanbr, the only way of doing that i know of is in httpd.conf but that all looks normal...i am assuming one of the programs did that for me?
[10:32] <robotgeek> Danl: do you have a installed sytem which you want to restore?
[10:32] <selinium> Did you follow https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ApacheMySQLPHP ?
[10:32] <polpak> or rather
[10:32] <polpak> ubotu tell mitrovarr about easyubuntu
[10:32] <khermans> anyone here fluent in javascript?
[10:32] <johanbr> nitrous: Not necessarily, but I don't know for sure. I'm not an apache expert.
[10:32] <Danl> i just got to gnome, haven't even added first package yet
[10:33] <mitrovarr> that's good to know, although I've already set up all three of my systems with the bad one.
[10:33] <robotgeek> Danl: hmm, okay. look for script at easybreezy.robotgeek.org, or feel free to take ideas from there
[10:33] <nitrous> selinium, no i didn't but i will try that out thanks
[10:33] <Danl> the machine im playing on has a hdd issue where the partition table and data corrupts alot, so i reinstall 3-5 times a month :-D
[10:34] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Man, I'm glad my hard drive doesn't do that
[10:34] <johanbr> Danl: New hard drives are cheap nowadays. :)
[10:34] <robotgeek> Danl: ahh, sneak a peek at the end of the script then :)
[10:34] <polpak> Danl: well you can start with easyubuntu, and then keep a list of the other packages you like and just apt-get them all in one shot
[10:34] <mitrovarr> Danl:  Although mine's got bad sectors and thus is somewhat frightening to use.
[10:34] <Danl> it's a laptop and something with the power connector broke, sent in to have fixed (thank god for warrenties) and ever since the hdd has been stupid
[10:34] <selinium> nitrous, Ok, If I were you sudo dpgk -P php4 apache2 blah blah blah before starting to purge the previous stuff.
[10:35] <robotgeek> Danl: dpkg --get-selections >> file , later sudo dpkg --set-selection < file and sudo apt-get dselect-upgrade
[10:35] <Danl> k
[10:35] <Danl> thanks guys
[10:35] <Danl> buenos noches
[10:35] <robotgeek> Danl: later
[10:36] <johanbr> Well, gotta go. Good night everyone.
[10:36] <bart1105> hello everyone
[10:37] <Pygi> !ff1.5
[10:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[10:37] <mitrovarr> does anyone know of anything important firefox 1.5 improves?
[10:38] <mitrovarr> I haven't really felt a difference, personally, on the computers I have it on
[10:38] <nitrous> selinium, i tried out that site and still the same thing :S
[10:38] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, really?
[10:38] <holy_cow> here, do this
[10:38] <holy_cow> open ff 1.0.x and open up 100 tabs ....
[10:38] <shindo> re: Firefox 1.5, personally, I think that they've just cleaned up the gui a bit
[10:38] <holy_cow> doesn't matter how, open up a folder with 100 links if you like
[10:39] <holy_cow> watch your cpu/ram consumption
[10:39] <holy_cow> experiment 2:
[10:39] <shindo> tabs can be reorganized, bookmarking tabs is more comfortable, etc
[10:39] <holy_cow> take ff 1.5 and open up 100 tabs
[10:39] <selinium> nitrous, i have used that wiki lots of times with no problems.... :(
[10:39] <holy_cow> watch your cpu/ram remain static
[10:39] <bart1105> anybody familiar with edubuntu?
[10:39] <nitrous> selinium, ya it looks straightforward and i recieved no errors..i dunno why it isn't working :S
[10:39] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Alright, let me actually try that.  I have 1. 5 on this one
[10:39] <borisattva> has anyone here been able to install network manager?
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, me
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, on breezy
[10:40] <borisattva> cyphase: what pacakeg did you use to install the dhcdbd?
[10:40] <torben> hello
[10:40] <borisattva> oh.. i'm trying to install it on dapper, and i get programming syntax errors after succesfull configure.
[10:40] <cyphase> borisattva, i just installed the network-manager package..
[10:41] <borisattva> do you remember which repo it was available from?
[10:41] <cyphase> borisattva, universe i think
[10:41] <borisattva> thanks
[10:41] <nitrous> selinium, should the httpd.conf file say anything about php.ini cuz mine doesn't?
[10:41] <mitrovarr> alright, 10 tabs of fark.com on 1.0.7 is taking 109 mb
[10:41] <cyphase> oh wait..
[10:42] <cyphase> borisattva, my mistake
[10:42] <cyphase> i just installed a deb
[10:42] <cyphase> not form a repo
[10:42] <cyphase> from*
[10:42] <selinium> nitrous, I am just re-installing it all myself, one moment...
[10:42] <mitrovarr> it's reading exactly the same on 1.5
[10:42] <nitrous> selinium, thanks
[10:42] <borisattva> oh, ok thanks i'll look for that
[10:44] <floyd_n_milan> will Ubuntu work smoothly, if not fast, on a P3 500 something MHz with 96MB RAM?
[10:44] <holy_cow> floyd_n_milan, no
[10:44] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i said 100 tabs, not 5, wtf is wrong with you?
[10:44] <holy_cow> lol
[10:44] <holy_cow> its 5 pages of html dude
[10:44] <floyd_n_milan> mhmmm
[10:44] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  I wanted my computers to continue to operate?
[10:44] <holy_cow> try opening up huge volumes of pages with flash too
[10:45] <floyd_n_milan> what Linux should i install on that computer then? :s
[10:45] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, your experiment is useless ... the point is 1.5 has much improved memory handling
[10:45] <holy_cow> and 1.5 will remain completely operational with 100 tabs
[10:45] <holy_cow> even if all of them have flash
[10:45] <holy_cow> floyd_n_milan, as much ram as you can afford
[10:45] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  not on this computer, it's a 800mhz with 256mb of ram.  It would die horribly.
[10:45] <holy_cow> 500 mhz is okay for cpu, you need lots and lots of ram
[10:45] <holy_cow> mite, no it wont
[10:46] <holy_cow> try 1.5
[10:46] <owner> yeah 1.5 is much better
[10:46] <floyd_n_milan> holy_cow, yeah, duh, that's the problem :/
[10:46] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  know a way to open lots of tabs fast, then?
[10:46] <shindo> floyd: mine is running fine on an AMD K-6-2 450mhz
[10:46] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i told you, middle click on a folder in bookmarks  with lots of links in it
[10:46] <owner> mitro get an rss stream
[10:46] <owner> and open all in tabs
[10:46] <owner> hehe
[10:46] <shindo> I've got more RAM, and the machine isn't fast, but it works just fine
[10:47] <owner> http://news.bbc.co.uk/
[10:47] <shindo> I havn't used GIMP or anything else that really requires a bunch of cycles
[10:47] <holy_cow> what shindo said flodine 500 mhz cpu will be okay, you really need mostly ram ... a faster hd will also improve yoru system drastically without you having to buy a whole new cpu/mobo/ram combination
[10:47] <shindo> as a server it's just dandy
[10:47] <floyd_n_milan> yeah mhmmm
[10:47] <mitrovarr> heh
[10:48] <mitrovarr> just to play, the other day I set up a server on a p166
[10:48] <selinium> nitrous, i am still here.... :)
[10:48] <nitrous> selinium, haha thanks
[10:48] <owner> mitro what kind of server
[10:48] <mitrovarr> owner:  OpenBSD
[10:48] <mitrovarr> owner:  oh, and just apache and ssh, nothing fancy
[10:49] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  wow, it does run well with all those tabs.  I've been being really careful about opening tabs because of how crappy 1.0.7 was with memory
[10:49] <holy_cow> *nod*
[10:49] <holy_cow> :)
[10:49] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  did they fix the memory accumulation thing?
[10:50] <holy_cow> not sure actually, i've never had an issue with that because i always have gigs of ram
[10:50] <selinium> nitrous, no reference to php in httpd.conf
[10:50] <mitrovarr> holy_cow: where it would just accumulate memory as long as you left it open, so you have to close it every once in a while?
[10:50] <nitrous> selinium, i have more progress...lol it is now working..except i have an issue with permissions...
[10:50] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Ah.  This is kind of a cheap, old computer that I mostly just use to watch internet tv and netsurf, so it feels it when something's eating ram.
[10:50] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, i've always used linux, i've never seen that here i thought that was only a windows thing
[10:50] <nitrous> because index.php every time i create it and then view it the file will try to download..but if i call it anything else like test.php it views perfectly..any ideas?
[10:51] <holy_cow> not always, i mean i've used it for the last couple of years exclusively
[10:51] <selinium> oh, ok, permissions are setup in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf
[10:51] <nbjayme> hello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(
[10:51] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  internet TV?  ess.tv can be made to work in linux, the problem is you have to have a playlist, you can't just browse streams
[10:51] <holy_cow> not internet tv, i meant moz ram leak i thought wasonly windows
[10:52] <h2theizzo> hey
[10:52] <h2theizzo> is there anyway i can setup ubuntu to upgrade once a night
[10:52] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  oh, no, it affected me earlier.  I had to reinstall this system to change hard drives, and it quit doing that, but I thought it just hadn't shown up yet.  Really it must have been because when I reinstalled I just went straight to 1.5
[10:52] <h2theizzo> like auto run sudo apt-get update then sudo apt-get upgrade
[10:53] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I suppose you could probably use cron
[10:53] <AMDXP> hi there the forums are down hard
[10:53] <h2theizzo> oh yeah
[10:53] <h2theizzo> whats cron?
[10:53] <bart1105> can anyone help me with edubuntu?
[10:53] <nbjayme> hello ppl. I have integrated S3 Unichrome Graphics in Intel P4. I've been following instructions to make ubuntu hoary do direct 3D but nothing seems to work.  please help. :(
[10:53] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, on linux or windows?
[10:53] <AMDXP> how can install the xubuntu-desktop
[10:53] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  it does things on a timed basis, but I don't know how to use it
[10:53] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  linux
[10:53] <floyd_n_milan> we met Mark Shuttleworth yesterday, it was interesting.
[10:53] <holy_cow> ubuntu only has 1.0.x you know
[10:54] <holy_cow> the only way to go to 1.5 is to manually dl and set it up or run some backport or whatever
[10:54] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  Yeah, but I used automatix (didn't know it was bad) and it WILL give you 1.5
[10:54] <owner> yes mitro
[10:54] <owner> it will
[10:54] <holy_cow> wtf is automatix?
[10:54] <robotgeek> !automatix
[10:54] <ubotu> from memory, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[10:54] <h2theizzo> automatic
[10:54] <h2theizzo> spelled funny
[10:54] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  apparently something bad, but I didn't know at the time
[10:54] <h2theizzo> hahaha
[10:54] <h2theizzo> sounds stable
[10:54] <robotgeek> owner: it still uses --force-yes
[10:54] <h2theizzo> sounds as stable as win98
[10:54] <h2theizzo> :\
[10:54] <owner> has that been confirmed robot
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I know, but I swear it hasn't caused any (evident) problems for me
[10:55] <AMDXP> i used that to set up a lot of my apps it was in the forum
[10:55] <h2theizzo> ok
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hehe
[10:55] <cyphase> can we get someone to make some really nice sounds for Dapper?
[10:55] <floyd_n_milan> nbjayme, Unichrome... i have the same, i added an NVIDIA card when i found that i couldn't get hardware acceleration working.. though Xorg 7 has improved drivers for that card...
[10:55] <h2theizzo> !cron
[10:55] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, h2theizzo
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  it is, however, EXTREMELY worrysome looking.  It looks like it was made by a script kiddie.
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hehehe
[10:55] <h2theizzo> !package cron
[10:55] <ubotu> h2theizzo: What?
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hmm
[10:55] <mitrovarr> h2theizzo:  I mean it actually uses 'u' for 'you' in the startup sequence.  That's some high rent programming, right there.
[10:55] <h2theizzo> hahaha
[10:55] <owner> lol mitro
[10:56] <h2theizzo> some lazy bastard
[10:56] <holy_cow> automatix looks like it uses dpkg no?
[10:56] <robotgeek> holy_cow: that's just the packaging, internally it's still evil
[10:56] <h2theizzo> i used dpkg to install djbdns and i cant find where it installed
[10:56] <owner> its funny there is a split in the ubuntu community
[10:56] <holy_cow> robotgeek, really?
[10:56] <owner> the forum staff all love it
[10:56] <owner> and the irc people hate it
[10:56] <holy_cow> mind me askin in what way?
[10:56] <holy_cow> just curious i belive it's evil :)
[10:56] <cyphase> owner, i don't hate ubuntu..
[10:56] <cyphase> :)
[10:57] <mitrovarr> it sure looks evil, but it was really helpful
[10:57] <cyphase> oh..
[10:57] <owner> we are talking about automatix cyphase
[10:57] <cyphase> nvm
[10:57] <cyphase> yea
[10:57] <cyphase> my mistake :S
[10:57] <mitrovarr> but I was worrying the whole time that it was going to rootkit me or something
[10:57] <cyphase> i don't know how i thought for a second you were saying the irc people hate ubuntu
[10:58] <robotgeek> owner: join #ubuntu-offtopic
[10:58] <owner> ok
[10:58] <robotgeek> holy_cow: yes, really
[10:58] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, there is always a chance of that ... with open source tho we are bound to find out eventually and remove it from the community
[10:58] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  I hope so.
[10:58] <cyphase> does anyone have a musician frind who might be able to make some really nice sounds for ubuntu?
[10:58] <cyphase> friend*
[10:59] <nitrous> selinium, you still there?
[10:59] <selinium> nitrous, yep
[10:59] <nitrous> any ideas whats up with my settings....it will open up test.php etc but will try to download index.php
[10:59] <nbjayme> thanks for the reply, flolyd_n_milan.
[11:00] <holy_cow> okay i'll search automatix evil when forums is back up :)
[11:00] <holy_cow> robotgeek, thx for the heads up
[11:00] <robotgeek> holy_cow: no problems, we don't like to tell ppl that their machine is foobared
[11:00] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  I'm curious what the results are.  It seemed like something that certainly should exist... it allowed you to put nearly every important thing for a desktop system on the computer fast
[11:01] <nitrous> selinium, are you lookin into it?
[11:02] <selinium> nitrous, sorry, you didn't beep me. I didn't hear! :) I am thinking now... :)
[11:02] <ssdo> hello can i ask about gstreamer0.10 in dapper?
[11:02] <nitrous> haha alright thanks
[11:02] <kubiat> yo
[11:02] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, me too, but frankly that is why you have synaptic
[11:02] <kubiat> jest tu kto  z polski jak tak to niech si odedzwie
[11:02] <cyphase> someone give me a random infrastructure idea for Gnome 3
[11:02] <holy_cow> mitrovarr, everything you learned in the windows world should be forgotten simply imho
[11:02] <borisattva> !polish
[11:02] <ubotu> borisattva: Do they come in packets of five?
[11:02] <cyphase> not everything..
[11:02] <borisattva> heh
[11:02] <ssdo> how come i can still see gstreamer0.8 in my synaptic? how do i use gsstreamer.10
[11:03] <Seveas> kubiat, please stick to english in here
[11:03] <hamdan> need help
[11:03] <Seveas> !pl
[11:03] <ubotu> Mozesz uzyskac pomoc w jezyku polskim na #ubuntu.pl
[11:03] <h2theizzo> so about that cron
[11:03] <Seveas> ssdo, only dapper has 0.10
[11:03] <hamdan> just installed ubuntu
[11:03] <h2theizzo> how could u do like a scheduled task
[11:03] <kubiat> ok
[11:03] <Seveas> h2theizzo, one-time task? use at
[11:03] <h2theizzo> no
[11:03] <h2theizzo> i mean
[11:03] <h2theizzo> once a day
[11:03] <selinium> nitrous, in /etc/apache2/apache2.conf   do you have this line?   DirectoryIndex index.html index.cgi index.pl index.php index.xhtml
[11:03] <mitrovarr> holy_cow:  well, windows doesn't even let you do that.  You have to go around and hunt down all the different programs, and use things like realplayer and (ugh) quicktime
[11:04] <Seveas> h2theizzo, man crontab :)
[11:04] <h2theizzo> crontab?
[11:04] <borisattva> speaking of gstreamer. i installed it on breezy via src and my synaptic still shows 8... is that normal? usually what ever i install ends up there
[11:04] <selinium> 'lo Seveas
[11:04] <ssdo> yup i am on dapper right now
[11:04] <Seveas> oi selinium
[11:04] <nitrous> selinium, yes i do
[11:04] <hamdan> just installed on one of my pcs located on a LAN...other pcs are on win xp
[11:04] <_XA_XA_> hahhaah
[11:04] <Seveas> ssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:04] <ssdo> i dist-upgraded from breezy to dapper
[11:04] <hamdan> cant connect to a local printer
[11:04] <h2theizzo> erm
[11:05] <h2theizzo> contrab -e ssdo, apt-get update, apt-get upgrade
[11:05] <h2theizzo> ?
[11:05] <selinium> nitrous, ok, strange....  and it has index.php    in it?
[11:05] <ssdo> do i have remove gstreamer0.8 to use gstreamer0.10
[11:05] <nitrous> selinium, yes it has it there
[11:05] <h2theizzo> oh nm
[11:05] <h2theizzo> heh
[11:05] <Seveas> h2theizzo, no, that other line was something for ssdo :)
[11:05] <Seveas> ssdo, I would think so, but am not sure
[11:05] <h2theizzo> i am sofa king we tod did
[11:05] <m0ns00n> Hey!
[11:05] <m0ns00n> I am experiencing a bug with firefox running on ubuntu
[11:06] <m0ns00n> The official build
[11:06] <m0ns00n> http://www.sub-ether.org/problem.png
[11:06] <selinium> nitrous , i now you have probably done this houndreds of times but can you      sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 restart   and try again
[11:06] <m0ns00n> http://www.sub-ether.org/artifact.png
[11:06] <Seveas> m0ns00n, mozilla.org firefox builds are not supported on ubuntu
[11:06] <hamdan> anyone
[11:06] <m0ns00n> Seveas: it must be a gtk related problem
[11:06] <m0ns00n> Perhaps
[11:06] <selinium> !enter
[11:06] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Seveas: Sure, but the problem might still be in Ubuntu.
[11:07] <Seveas> m0ns00n, i see no bug in that small image...
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Seveas: As it's not reproducable on all other systems.
[11:07] <nitrous> selinium, i tried and its still doin it
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Yes, one of them has a 1 px space
[11:07] <selinium> ok
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Which happens when I hover with the mouse over
[11:07] <m0ns00n> And it also happens on www.mozilla.com and other sites
[11:07] <m0ns00n> Very annoying, the images move
[11:08] <selinium> nitrous, pm?
[11:08] <m0ns00n> Also the text in the tabs move
[11:08] <Seveas> m0ns00n, never happened to me with ubuntu builds of firefox
[11:08] <m0ns00n> Try to find somebody it did happen with ;)
[11:08] <nitrous> selinium, if pm means private messaging yes sure but i dont know how
[11:08] <hamdan> the problem is, ive just installed ubuntu on one of my pc's located on a LAN (other pcs are win xp based). the installation went well, however i cant seem to print on a printer attached to one of the other pcs. can anyone help?
[11:08] <m0ns00n> bbl
[11:09] <selinium> nitrous, are you using xchat?
[11:09] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  is the printer shared using windows file/network sharing or a networked printer?
[11:10] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe I can help sir
[11:10] <hamdan> mitrovarr: its just using windows file/network/printer sharing
[11:10] <hamdan> thanks jbzz
[11:10] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  ok.  Go to system -> administration -> printing, then 'new printer'
[11:11] <mailo> mailo
[11:11] <selinium> nitrous, hello.... :)
[11:11] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Then select 'network printer' and change the option box from CUPS to Windows Printer (smb)
[11:11] <h2theizzo> hey
[11:12] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Hopefully the samba shares on the network will appear and you can find your printer and connect to it.  And hope there's a driver for it, because linux printer support is not total.
[11:12] <ashrack> on my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:12] <h2theizzo> if u setup the crontab, to run daily at 2300 hours, like apt-update and apt-upgrade,wouldnt it have to read sudo apt-upgrade n stuff,so i would have to be here for it right?
[11:12] <nitrous> selinium, yes i am using xchat
[11:12] <netstar> Where can I get KDE 3.5 from for ubuntu?
[11:12] <selinium> nitrous, Ok do a    ls -a /var/www     and paste your result in http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:13] <h2theizzo> apt-get install kde
[11:13] <nitrous> selinium, i got your pm and replied back but i'm assuming you aren't getting them?
[11:13] <netstar> h2theizzo, isn't that an older version than 3.5?
[11:13] <h2theizzo> lemmy c
[11:13] <rraajj> Hi all! What do I have to do to solve the "error: C compiler cannot create executables" problem when compiling?
[11:13] <selinium> nitrous, we can not pm as you need to have your nick registered
[11:13] <h2theizzo> well either way
[11:13] <jbzz> hamdan:  What is sharing the printer?  XP ?
[11:13] <hamdan> mitrovarr : i have done all that i i have an icon in my printer window indicating the printer as ready, however when i try to print the printer does not print.
[11:13] <h2theizzo> nitrous,you could probly enable the repository
[11:13] <h2theizzo> and get the one not recommended
[11:14] <h2theizzo> u tried kubuntu?
[11:14] <nitrous> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7509
[11:14] <h2theizzo> its kde lovers version
[11:14] <netstar> h2theizzo, nope.
[11:14] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  So the driver list had the driver for your printer, right?
[11:14] <nitrous> selinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7509
[11:14] <olicat> hi all, my server just locked up. in the apache logs i see this a few times: Ouch!  malloc failed in malloc_block()
[11:14] <selinium> Seveas, how do I start a channel and invite someone who doesn't have their nick registered for pm type work?
[11:14] <hamdan> jbzz: all pc's on my network share the printer..yes all xp
[11:14] <olicat> any ideas what that means?
[11:14] <olicat> no memory/swap, maybe?
[11:14] <hamdan> mitrovarr : yes
[11:14] <nitrous> selinium, they all work except index.php
[11:14] <hamdan> mitrovarr : laserjet-4-plus
[11:14] <selinium> nitrous, oops,    ls -l /var/www    sorry
[11:15] <AMDXP> i installed the xubuntu desktop i just have to reboot correct and it should come up
[11:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  I have a Windows 2000 Pro in the basement that shares a printer.  My Ubuntu system is in another room.  I am on the Ubuntu system now.
[11:15] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Hmm...  What are you trying to print with?  I can't get some programs to print, like the ones use gimp-print
[11:15] <nitrous> selinium, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7510
[11:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  Have you tried to creat a priner on the Ubuntu system that connects to the share on the XP machine?
[11:16] <h2theizzo> is the .conf setup right for that dir?
[11:16] <h2theizzo> nitrous
[11:16] <h2theizzo> my kde is installed its version 5.44
[11:16] <nitrous> h2theizzo, i have no idea lol
[11:16] <h2theizzo> and thats under ubuntu
[11:16] <hamdan> jbzz: no im trying to connect the ubuntu system to the printer on the xp system
[11:16] <nitrous> h2theizzo, yes its under ubuntu and it does have it set to include index.php for index but i dunno about the rest
[11:17] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  It might help if you went over to the XP system and watched the print monitor as you tried to print, that'll show you if your computer is seeing the share and sending data
[11:17] <jbzz> hamdan:  Right, I understand.  But have you tried to create a printer connection on the Ubuntu machine  that connects to the XP printer?
[11:17] <hamdan> mitrovarr: im just trying to print from ubuntu..some office docs etc
[11:18] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:18] <h2theizzo> but
[11:18] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  I'm out of ideas, then.  I have gotten samba printing working in ubuntu, so it's not broken.
[11:18] <h2theizzo> sorry about the enter :( but did u install apache2-php?
[11:18] <ashrack> notebook:Cel 2400,512MB RAM,40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd?Would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:18] <nitrous> h2theizzo, php is all working..just the index.php wont let you view it just tries to download...like test.php for example will work
[11:18] <chemical_ds> Hi. Is there any way i can view the boot messages once my computer has already started?
[11:18] <h2theizzo> wow
[11:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  I understand.  But have you attempted to create a printer on the Ubuntu system yet that connects to the XP system?
[11:19] <h2theizzo> is the site where i can access it?
[11:19] <h2theizzo> maybe its your browser>
[11:19] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  Your printer has 4 different drivers available in the printer dialogs, maybe you should try another?
[11:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  System   -   Administration  - Printing
[11:19] <nitrous> h2theizzo, no i'm behind a router nd it would take too long to configure to go to this machine
[11:19] <h2theizzo> yeah s alright
[11:19] <h2theizzo> maybe your browser dont support php? its doubtfull but.. maybe thats why its trying to dl it
[11:19] <nitrous> h2theizzo and selinium, any ideas?
[11:20] <nitrous> it does support php though becasue test.php works...
[11:20] <mitrovarr> hamdan:  after you select your printer from the list, you can choose a different driver for that specific printer from the dialog box under the list.  It's certainly worth trying to others to see if one of them works.
[11:20] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:20] <h2theizzo> i dont know,i just givin thoughts man :P
[11:20] <nitrous> haha aight
[11:20] <hamdan> ok
[11:20] <h2theizzo> thinkgs i would check if mine didnt work anyways
[11:20] <hamdan> i'll try it..btw i love ubuntu..this is great!
[11:20] <nitrous> selinium, you still here?
[11:21] <selinium> nitrous, so testphp.php works, but index.php doesn't?    try looking up index.php?
[11:21] <h2theizzo> nitrous mines up,but the page sucks, http://71.36.110.216
[11:21] <jbzz> hamdan:  Yes I have come to appreciiate Ubuntu after trying others.
[11:21] <hamdan> good job to everyone involve in this..!!!!
[11:21] <selinium> nitrous, with the '?'
[11:21] <nitrous> lol http://localhost/index.php? works
[11:21] <nitrous> selinium, what does that mean since index.php? works?
[11:22] <selinium> nitrous, browser cacheing!
[11:22] <h2theizzo> nitrous,if u know how to do html,maybe you can make index.html redirect to index.php
[11:22] <nitrous> POS lol
[11:22] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do not be surprised if the connection fails.  There are round about ways to attack the problem.
[11:23] <sugoruyo> is there any chance ubuntu or linux for that matter
[11:23] <nitrous> selinium, thank you so much that was all it was
[11:23] <sugoruyo> is incompatible with my network card?
[11:23] <selinium> nitrous, all you needed to do was do a Ctrl-F5 for a browser refresh. You will get this kind of thing all the time when web dev'ing
[11:23] <h2theizzo> what kind of network card, most are
[11:23] <mitrovarr> sugoruyo:  it's possible, I've heard there's a couple that don't work still
[11:23] <osfameron> any suggestions on what do do when my USB mouse hangs regularly
[11:24] <h2theizzo> i have like 6 network cards,all work fine,different brands too
[11:24] <osfameron> (Breezy)
[11:24] <nitrous> selinium, ya i should have known just wasn't thinkin...thanks you so much
[11:24] <h2theizzo> osfameron mine does too,it laggs around the screen real bad
[11:24] <osfameron> unplug and plugin works ok, but kindof annyoing
[11:24] <selinium> nitrous, NP glad we worked it out, I was going crazy!
[11:24] <osfameron> h2theizzo: in my case the lag isn't too bad, but it just stops occasionally
[11:24] <nitrous> selinium, you weren't the only one...but i gotta go to sleep now though...i work in 7 hours and still gotta sleep before then so thanks again...maybe i'll talk to ya another time
[11:25] <sugoruyo> i have an MSI 865PE-Neo2V mainboard the onboard ethernet gets detected and all by linux but it won't work
[11:25] <h2theizzo> lol i dont know wich is worst, when i move mine it twitches real bad,so i move it to far,or not far enough,takes forever to get to where i want to click
[11:25] <selinium> ok nitrous, i have gotta go too, see ya around! :)
[11:25] <sugoruyo> other distros will work with the LAN but not the inet
[11:25] <sugoruyo> other won't work at all
[11:25] <h2theizzo> sugoruyo maybe it needs to be configed with the right ip's/dns/gateways
[11:25] <mitrovarr> sugoruyo:  Sure it's not just a bad network configuration?
[11:25] <Ismael> is the gimp preconfonfigured in such way the conf wizard is not launched the first time?
[11:25] <h2theizzo> im on a dsl router,so  ihave to manually enter all that
[11:25] <sugoruyo> it is
[11:25] <osfameron> !mouse
[11:25] <ubotu> mouse is, like, totally, Enabling extra buttons  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ManyButtonsMouseHowto or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=65471&highlight=evdev
[11:26] <sugoruyo> yeah me too
[11:26] <sugoruyo> i have done so
[11:26] <sugoruyo> but still no connection
[11:26] <h2theizzo> who is your provider?
[11:26] <sugoruyo> my ISP you mean?
[11:26] <osfameron> bah, ubuntuforums not working
[11:26] <h2theizzo> yeah
[11:26] <osfameron> !usb
[11:26] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, osfameron
[11:26] <mshade> you can mount SMB shares easily in ubuntu, is there an NFS mounting utility?
[11:26] <h2theizzo> yeah NFS is on ubuntu
[11:26] <sugoruyo> you wouldn't know them... i'm in greece
[11:26] <h2theizzo> k
[11:27] <hamdan> jbzz: how do i know if i have my ubuntu system prperly set up on my network?
[11:27] <mshade> i have a file server set up as samba and NFS, but i'd prefer to access it as a part of my filesystem rather than through smb:// hooks
[11:27] <sugoruyo> the thing is sometimes ubuntu won't even ping the router
[11:27] <h2theizzo> mine was a pain in the butt to setup,took a while to figure out,but.. maybe could help
[11:27] <mshade> is there a way?
[11:27] <h2theizzo> does yours run Nat?
[11:27] <h2theizzo> !nat
[11:27] <ubotu> h2theizzo: I give up, what is it?
[11:27] <mshade> !nfs
[11:27] <ubotu> from memory, nfs is see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSClientHowTo and https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NFSServerHowTo for information on installing and configuring NFS.
[11:27] <sugoruyo> i'm not sure
[11:27] <sugoruyo> i think so
[11:27] <h2theizzo> ok the computers on your lan,do they come up with ips like 192.168.#.#
[11:27] <orion_fr_24>  how can I add virtual folder to proftpd ?
[11:28] <jbzz> hamdan:  Well actually that depends on what you have got set up.  Sometimes firewalls, etc. will make you go crazy.
[11:28] <troop> hi. i get an boot error... inode 3696285 has illegal blocks ..unexpected inconsistency. run fsck manually...fsck failed ...etc...etc....what is it?and what can i do ?
[11:28] <sugoruyo> i have static IPs assigned by hand in the LAN
[11:28] <h2theizzo> yeah thats fine
[11:28] <C2ODe> how to restore Uslash after compiling a vanilla kernel 2.6.15-1?
[11:28] <h2theizzo> whatever u set them at
[11:28] <h2theizzo> did u set your nix box the same ip?
[11:28] <jbzz> hamdan:  Your IP numbers must be similar, your hosts file or DHCP has to be set up properly, etc.
[11:29] <hamdan> jbzz: well no, all firewall turned off...basically its one pc running on ubuntu and 4 others on xp on a LAN
[11:29] <sugoruyo> i set it to the IP it's supposed to have
[11:29] <Ismael> guys, we are working in the manual for an ubuntu derivate, anybody knows such detail about gimp?
[11:29] <h2theizzo> then your subnet should be 255.255.255.0, the gateway should be the IP of your DSL box, like mines 192.168.0.1
[11:29] <sugoruyo> i know
[11:29] <h2theizzo> then the dns ips are my isps dns ips
[11:29] <AMDXP> anyone know how to start beem media player from xterm???
[11:29] <sugoruyo> all the IPs are configured
[11:29] <h2theizzo> ok
[11:29] <jbzz> hamdan:  That would help.  Sometimes a pind to another machine will instill confidence.
[11:29] <h2theizzo> hah u know what,do you have firewire on that pc?
[11:29] <sugoruyo> machine, gateway, the two DNSs
[11:29] <h2theizzo> the 1394 adapters
[11:29] <sugoruyo> nope
[11:29] <jbzz> hamdan:   a 'ping'  I meant
[11:29] <h2theizzo> do u have any other type of connection?
[11:30] <sugoruyo> nope
[11:30] <h2theizzo> id make sure that eth0 is the default
[11:30] <shindo> anybody know if I can use bind9 to update a dynamic ip? (e.g. dyndns)
[11:30] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i initiate a ping? do u mind teaching me?
[11:30] <sugoruyo> it's the only one
[11:30] <h2theizzo> wow
[11:30] <h2theizzo> my prob was i had the 1394,didnt see it at first hadda disable it
[11:30] <h2theizzo> you happen to have another network card u could put in there n try out?
[11:31] <jbzz> hamdan:  Basically you go to a 'terminal' session and type   ping  192.168.0.3    ro whatever the IP is for another machine in the office.
[11:31] <sugoruyo> not right now
[11:31] <h2theizzo> k
[11:31] <shindo> hamdan: $ ping <address>
[11:31] <h2theizzo> run the terminal, do sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[11:31] <jbzz> hamdan:  You should get something that indicates it 'got a reply'
[11:31] <h2theizzo> see if it says ok, or failed
[11:31] <hamdan> ok ill try that
[11:31] <hamdan> brb
[11:31] <shindo> ctrl-c to stop
[11:31] <sugoruyo> i'm on a mac
[11:31] <sugoruyo> right now
[11:32] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do you have DHCP set up to issue IP numbers?
[11:32] <sugoruyo> the ubuntu machine is running
[11:32] <h2theizzo> oh,the pc isnt near you?
[11:32] <h2theizzo> thats fine
[11:32] <sugoruyo> i ping the ubuntu machine from the mac
[11:32] <h2theizzo> it wont hurt the ubuntu box
[11:32] <sugoruyo> it's on the same desk
[11:32] <h2theizzo> k
[11:32] <sugoruyo> it responds
[11:32] <h2theizzo> really
[11:32] <h2theizzo> theres something there thne,i think its trying to look up off something else other then the network card
[11:32] <h2theizzo> or thats what it seems like its acting like
[11:33] <h2theizzo> u have the ubuntu firewall installed or sumthin?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> no
[11:33] <sugoruyo> just installed
[11:33] <h2theizzo> can you ssh into the box?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> tried to hit update
[11:33] <sugoruyo> is it installed by default?
[11:33] <sugoruyo> how do i use it
[11:33] <h2theizzo> i dont remember
[11:33] <h2theizzo> heh
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i can ping from the ubuntu
[11:34] <sugoruyo> to the mac
[11:34] <sugoruyo> ok
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i can ping the router
[11:34] <sugoruyo> ok
[11:34] <h2theizzo> and it responds?
[11:34] <sugoruyo> i ping some address which i think is the NAT
[11:34] <sugoruyo> and it also responds
[11:34] <sugoruyo> but pinging something like a website it won't
[11:34] <h2theizzo> hmm is your synaptic setup to download off the US servers?
[11:34] <h2theizzo> maybe it cant reach there
[11:35] <mitrovarr> well, I'm out of here.  Goodnight, all
[11:35] <h2theizzo> night
[11:35] <sugoruyo> pinging www.ubuntulinux.org works
[11:35] <sugoruyo> pinging most greek sites doesn't
[11:35] <sugoruyo> trying to load pages in firefox doesn't
[11:35] <sugoruyo> wtf?!
[11:36] <sugoruyo> this is beyond weird
[11:36] <h2theizzo> can u use irssi or xchat and get on irc
[11:36] <sugoruyo> ok now it's updating the list of packages from the repos....
[11:36] <sugoruyo> i don't get this
[11:37] <sugoruyo> some boots work fine
[11:37] <sugoruyo> some don't
[11:37] <sugoruyo> i need my pills
[11:37] <sugoruyo> :D
[11:37] <orion_fr_24> how can I update my breezy  to dapper ???
[11:37] <sugoruyo> i'll try to see what's causing this later
[11:37] <sugoruyo> thx tho
[11:37] <ashrack> on my notebook which is Cel 2400,512MB RAM and a 40GB 4300RPM hdd I get very slugish GNOME. I have to wait for 5secs to even open nautilus. Is this sluggish behaviour because of the slow RPM hdd? And would it help if I were to use XFCE? DMA is enabled and the PIIX UDMA controller is compiled into the kernel
[11:37] <sugoruyo> gtg
[11:38] <JaneW> does anyone here know what is going on with the forums?
[11:38] <h2theizzo> servers moving
[11:38] <ashrack> jane theyr being moved
[11:38] <ssdo> yeah, the forums are down
[11:38] <JaneW> oic, thanks
[11:38] <ssdo> when are the forums be back
[11:38] <JaneW> anyone have details? Who, when, where etc?
[11:39] <ssdo> is there a channel for dapper?
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: what specifically?
[11:39] <Fr> io
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: #ubuntu-devel deals with current development, which is Dapper atm..
[11:39] <ssdo> i am testing dapper flight 3 and i want to ask about gstreamer .10
[11:39] <Ng> orion_fr_24: I'd suggest that if you need to ask, you probably don't want to ;)
[11:39] <JaneW> ssdo: try asking there
[11:40] <grap> hello
[11:40] <Fr> im getting linux at schoool at the moment ! boorig
[11:40] <Madeye> guys, moving files from ext2/3 to rieserfs will currept them?
[11:40] <orion_fr_24> Ng: could you answer me please instead of mocking
[11:40] <ssdo> how implemented is gstreamer0.10 in dapper flight3? I have in my synaptic both gstreamer0.8 and the gstreamer0.10, which among them i am using?
[11:41] <Ng> orion_fr_24: I'm not mocking, I'm advisint
[11:41] <grap> im trying to compile bmpx and i need some libraries that I can find, but the problem comes when I try to install fam, this program wants to eliminate about 250 mb
[11:41] <orion_fr_24> Ng: will I find an update option during install
[11:41] <owner> you dont need fam if you have gam grap
[11:41] <AMDXP> brb
[11:41] <grap> I think i chose the wrong lib
[11:41] <grap> owner, what?
[11:41] <owner> gamin
[11:41] <Ng> orion_fr_24: if you really want to, edit /etc/apt/sources.list and replace breezy with dapper, but be aware that it can and probably will break a bunch of times between now and release and you are unlikely to get much help fixing it
[11:42] <owner> its the file monitoring system
[11:42] <owner> like fam
[11:42] <grap> owner, i have it installe
[11:42] <grap> d
[11:42] <h2theizzo> is dapper the next release?
[11:42] <h2theizzo> !dapper
[11:42] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[11:42] <h2theizzo> Ng,will it be easy to update to dapper when it is released?
[11:42] <Ng> h2theizzo: yes :)
[11:43] <h2theizzo> like can i do apt-upgrade
[11:43] <grap> bmpx says that it needs fam.h
[11:43] <Ng> h2theizzo: yep
[11:43] <h2theizzo> ive never upgraded a linux before
[11:43] <grap> configure: error: "Cannot find FAM"
[11:43] <h2theizzo> always did a fresh install
[11:43] <orion_fr_24> Ng: how can I update now ?
[11:43] <h2theizzo> its not suggested
[11:43] <h2theizzo> :\
[11:43] <grap> orion_fr_24, sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:43] <hamdan> jbzz: dhcp set up?
[11:43] <Ng> grap: you may need to install libgamin-dev
[11:43] <grap> Ng, i'll try
[11:43] <orion_fr_24> grap:  ok thx
[11:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  Do you have a way of issuing IP numbers in the office there?
[11:44] <hamdan> all on auto
[11:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  Or do you just pick numbers and use them?
[11:44] <h2theizzo> i find if i use random numbers it works better
[11:44] <h2theizzo> 69.420.187.666
[11:45] <hamdan> jbzz : auto assign ip's
[11:45] <h2theizzo> bhahaha
[11:45] <h2theizzo> bbl thanks :P
[11:45] <grap> Ng, it worked
[11:45] <grap> XD
[11:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Then you can ping another machine by using the IP number or the name of the machine.
[11:45] <dbglt> hi all, I've just installed ubuntu onto my other machine, but I need a package for it to connect to the internet
[11:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  Can you ping the machine that is sharing the printer?
[11:45] <dbglt> http://packages.ubuntu.com/dapper/net/eciadsl - that is the package I need. Is there a way to download it in advance?
[11:46] <olicat> hi folks. i've ordered a new mac book pro. what do you reckon the odds are of the mouse working properly with ubuntu? :) (ie 1 finger moves the mouse, 2 fingers control vert/horiz scrolling)
[11:46] <dbglt> it is part of "universe"
[11:46] <dbglt> no matter, found out how!
[11:47] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i ' ping' using the computer name ?
[11:47] <CompShrink> is the forum down, or is it on my end?
[11:47] <jbzz> hamdan:   Assume one computer (XP) is named 'Unit-2'   then you type     ping unit-2
[11:47] <perrie> hello all
[11:48] <hamdan> from here?
[11:48] <hamdan> from this window u mean?
[11:48] <liable> hamdan: that name has to be in your host file though for it to work.
[11:48] <hamdan> yeah
[11:48] <jbzz> hamdan:  The name unit-2 should get translated to a number automatically then the number is used to reach the machine called   unit-2
[11:49] <perrie> I have installed a ssh-server on my machine is it only a matter of closeing the firewall to connect from a remote machine
[11:49] <hamdan> jbzz: where do i do this ping?
[11:49] <CompShrink> hamdan, type that in a console, not in irc
[11:49] <jbzz> hamdan:  Start up a 'terminal' window
[11:50] <cyphase> what's this about Google developing their own version of ubuntu? "Goobuntu"
[11:50] <jbzz> hamdan:  Application  -  Accessories  -  Terminal
[11:50] <hamdan> ok
[11:50] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$
[11:51] <AMDXP> oh well so much for that
[11:52] <AMDXP> my xfce4 is foobared
[11:52] <hamdan> iunknown host
[11:52] <owner> how?
[11:52] <hamdan> unknown host
[11:52] <jbzz> hamdan:   Sounds like you cannot translate the name to an IP number.
[11:52] <AMDXP> i changed the display and i couldnt change it back it was unreadable
[11:52] <AMDXP> i tried to uninstall it and reinstall it
[11:53] <AMDXP> and its still foobared
[11:53] <jbzz> hamdan:   Try to ping to the IP number   as in     ping   192.168.1.12
[11:54] <hamdan> my computer name etsb03, when i typed ping etsb03 its pinging
[11:54] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$ ping etsb03
[11:54] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes you can ping yourself.
[11:55] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i stop pinging myseld :)
[11:55] <CompShrink> hamdan, what os is the other comp on?
[11:55] <jbzz> hamdan: Try control-c
[11:55] <hamdan> compsrink : xp
[11:55] <CompShrink> k, then go start>run and type in command
[11:55] <CompShrink> hit enter
[11:55] <CompShrink> type ipconfig /all
[11:55] <CompShrink> hit enter
[11:56] <CompShrink> it will list your IP
[11:56] <CompShrink> then try pinging that
[11:56] <CompShrink> gtg to dinner, good lick
[11:56] <CompShrink> *luck
[11:56] <hamdan> ok
[11:56] <CompShrink> and will someone tell me if the forum is down, or if it's just me?
[11:56] <hamdan> its down
[11:56] <Seveas> !forumdown
[11:56] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Seveas
[11:56] <Seveas> !kill
[11:56] <hamdan> went there before here..
[11:56] <ubotu> rumour has it, kill is a command for getting rid of unwanted processes, usage: kill [-signal]  PID.  Signals are numbers: -15 is general exit, -9 forces quit.  See manual page for more.
[11:56] <Seveas> !listvals forum
[11:57] <hamdan> how do i get the ip add of that particular comp?
[11:57] <Seveas> !forumsdown
[11:57] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[11:57] <Seveas> !forget shawkins
[11:57] <ubotu> i forgot shawkins, Seveas
[11:57] <hamdan> do i just type ipconfig ?
[11:57] <jbzz> hamdan:   On the XP machine you can start up a command window and type   ipconfig   I believe and it should scroll something up.
[11:58] <hamdan> hang on jbzz let me try that
[11:58] <Seveas> since when do we support windows in here?
[11:58] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes.   On the Ubuntu machine type    ifconfig      a little different.
[11:59] <hamdan> sorry guys, they are just helping the idiot here ..
[11:59] <hamdan> <--idiot
[11:59] <hamdan> im learning
[11:59] <pmallapp> hi all
[11:59] <Seveas> hi pmallapp
[11:59] <pmallapp> ubuntu forums connection refused >?
[11:59] <Seveas> !forumsdown
[11:59] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[12:00] <pmallapp> Thanks Sevas
[12:00] <Stevis2002> Hi all
[12:00] <Seveas> hi
[12:00] <Stevis2002> Can anybody tell me if they know of an Inventory/Stock Control application for Linux please? I use ubuntu
[12:00] <ReverendGoatse> looool no
[12:01] <Stevis2002> short & sweet :)
[12:01] <Stevis2002> Thanks
[12:01] <Seveas> ReverendGoatse, ?
[12:01] <ReverendGoatse> yes'm?
[12:02] <Stevis2002> anyone else know of any?
[12:02] <Seveas> there exist inventory and stock control programs for linux...
[12:02] <Stevis2002> All i need is to be able to adjust the stock level and put in the location of the product
[12:02] <Seveas> Don't know about free oness though
[12:02] <Stevis2002> yeah, but i'm after one which doesn't cost $500+
[12:03] <Stevis2002> Possibly a really stupid question, but, can programs for windows be run on linux?
[12:04] <Seveas> Via wine it may be possible
[12:04] <Seveas> http://www.tucows.com/preview/339559 <-- That was the stock control thing I knew
[12:04] <Stevis2002> how do i install wine from ubuntu?
[12:04] <AMDXP> Stevis2002: some can
[12:04] <Seveas> apt-get install wine
[12:04] <Stevis2002> ah-ha...thank you very much
[12:04] <Stevis2002> i will try
[12:05] <Stevis2002> do you just install the program as if it was windows then...i.e....double click it?
[12:05] <Seveas> Stevis2002, google also brought up this: http://www.midwestlinux.com/products/appgen/iv.html
[12:05] <ompaul> Stevis2002, in some cases they wil work with wine, in other cases a commerical program called Cegeda may help, you need to put "sudo" in front of Seveas's command there :) as long as you have the universe repos installed
[12:05] <Seveas> Stevis2002, once you installed wine you can run windows installers
[12:05] <Nameeater> !mp3
[12:05] <ubotu> I guess mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[12:05] <ompaul> !tell Stevis2002 about universe
[12:05] <hamdan> jbzz : ok got the ip add
[12:05] <Stevis2002> ah right...thanks
[12:05] <DerLandi> moin moin!
[12:06] <Stevis2002> btw...the stock control program you pointed me to was for windows
[12:06] <ompaul> question, how do I get abiword to see a dictionary?
[12:06] <hamdan> jbzz : i'm getting a response
[12:06] <DerLandi> #j ubuntu_de
[12:06] <jbzz> hamdan:   Super.
[12:06] <ompaul> DerLandi, morgen :)
[12:06] <rraajj> Is ubuntuforums still down?
[12:06] <Stevis2002> Right then...Thanks all, i shall try that
[12:06] <jbzz> hamdan:   That proves some type of connection is being made.
[12:06] <DerLandi> hab mal ne "plde" frage, kann mir jemand nen command sagen, mit dem ich an de konsole die belegung meiner pladden auslesen kann?
[12:07] <ompaul>  /join #ubuntu-de
[12:07] <Stevis2002> Also, i have installed my epson alll in one....i think, but how do i install the scanner part of it?
[12:07] <hamdan> jbzz : great!!
[12:07] <DerLandi> @opmaul ahh! so wars, stimmt! lang net mehr hier gewesen, sry und thx! :D
[12:07] <jbzz> hamdan:   On the Ubuntu machine you should try to add a printer.
[12:07] <ompaul> DerLandi,  kp
[12:08] <ompaul> Stevis2002, the main program is called sane
[12:08] <Stevis2002> do i just apt-get sane then?
[12:08] <jbzz> hamdan:     It should point to the share name of the XP system.  The printer share name you gave the sharepoint.
[12:08] <jbzz> hamdan:   System    -    Administration   -   Printing
[12:08] <Stevis2002> ok, thanks all
[12:09] <Stevis2002> bye for now :)
[12:09] <jbzz> hamdan:     New printer.
[12:09] <frogzoo> hot damn ff1.5 is fast - well worth the upgrade
[12:10] <jbzz> hamdan:   Network Printer           and     select   Windows Printer (SMB) where it shows CUPS printer.
[12:12] <hamdan> at the driver it shows [postcript (recommended) (suggested) button and a install driver button
[12:13] <jbzz> hamdan:   Take the recommended selection for now.
[12:13] <eps> here is an odd request...I  have a huge file (just under half a million lines) and I need to find out how many spaces there are :|  ...can any one suggest some thing
[12:13] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[12:13] <Nameeater> how do you share a printer between two linux pcs?
[12:13] <hamdan> jbzz do click 'apply' or click on the install driver button?
[12:14] <jbzz> hamdan:  Click apply.
[12:14] <hamdan> ok laserjet-4-plus icon ready in my printers setting
[12:14] <ompaul> Stevis2002, sudo apt-get install sane<< again you need universe
[12:14] <hamdan> printing a test page
[12:15] <senectus> Guys I have a non CSS (non retail) DVD that the boss has asked me to convert into a mpeg so he can incorporate it in a powerpoint pres.. is there any way to do this in Linux??
[12:15] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.  Give it a try.   If it fails we can try modifying a file.
[12:15] <hamdan> Letter test page has been sent to LaserJet-4-Plus.
[12:15] <hamdan> jbzz : no print
[12:15] <frogzoo> eps, something like sed -e 's/[^ ] /g' | wc    should do it
[12:15] <jbzz> hamdan:   Right.  Typical.  Thee is a file we can look at.
[12:15] <selinium> ompaul Stevis2002 : you get xsane installed under Applications/Graphics...
[12:15] <Ng> senectus: the dvdrip package is ok
[12:16] <jbzz> hamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf
[12:16] <selinium> ompaul, He has gone...
[12:16] <ompaul> selinium, IO noted :)
[12:16] <ompaul> selinium, oi even noted :)
[12:16] <hamdan> jbzz : and where do i type that?
[12:16] <ompaul> woite back to trying to get this job done
[12:17] <senectus> Ng thanks
[12:17] <hamdan> jbzz : where do i type /etc/cups/printers.conf  ?
[12:17] <jbzz> hamdan:     Ouch!   In the terminal you can    cd    to that directory.      so type in that terminal window    cd  /etc/cups
[12:18] <jbzz> hamdan:   Then we want to look at the contents of the file of interest.    So type   cat printers.conf
[12:19] <eps> frogzoo thanks :)
[12:19] <hamdan> hamdan@etsb03:~$ cd ?
[12:19] <jbzz> hamdan:      cd    /etc/cups
[12:20] <hamdan> amdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$
[12:20] <jbzz> hamdan:     Super.    now type     cat   printers.conf
[12:21] <hamdan> cat: printers.conf: Permission denied
[12:21] <jbzz> hamdan:   try      sudo cat printers.conf
[12:22] <hamdan> password?
[12:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Try your own password
[12:22] <hamdan> ok
[12:22] <tonix> hi guys, i don't hake the lp command on my ubuntu dekstop. What is the package i need to install to have the lp command? thanks
[12:23] <tonix> ..sorry , i don't have..
[12:23] <jbzz> hamdan:   Look for a line that starts with    DeviceURI smb ...
[12:23] <hamdan> done
[12:23] <nubuntu> anyone who can help me getting privoxy to work? seems it cant find the config file
[12:23] <hamdan> its there
[12:23] <drummer87> any news on what's happening with the forums?? they've been down a couple days now
[12:24] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:xxxxx@ETSB04/Printer
[12:24] <Ng> drummer87: they're being moved apparently, should be back later
[12:24] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK.   Let me look at what you have shown.
[12:24] <drummer87> ic
[12:24] <hamdan> State Idle
[12:24] <hamdan> Accepting Yes
[12:24] <hamdan> JobSheets none none
[12:25] <nubuntu> nevermind :)
[12:25] <hamdan> QuotaPeriod 0
[12:25] <hamdan> PageLimit 0
[12:25] <hamdan> KLimit 0
[12:25] <Ng> tonix: cupsys-bsd includes old style printer tools to work with cups, but not lp
[12:25] <CompShrink> tonix, iproute2 package
[12:25] <CompShrink> oh, lp
[12:25] <CompShrink> oops
[12:25] <Ng> hehe
[12:25] <jbzz> hamdan:   What we are striving for is the following:   smb://username:password@computername/computername/sharename
[12:26] <ilba7r> tonix that is really strange do you have cups installed
[12:26] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer
[12:26] <hamdan> is that the string?
[12:27] <jbzz> hamdan:   We want that line to follow that line of thinking.  The username is a valid user name of a user on the machine that is sharing the printer.
[12:27] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes.
[12:27] <m33s> hi
[12:27] <m33s> has anybody any experience with mixxx?
[12:28] <hamdan> :)
[12:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name
[12:29] <ompaul> Seveas, where is the pool of packages for dapper?
[12:29] <Seveas> ompaul, archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool
[12:29] <ompaul> thanks
[12:29] <tonix> ilba7r: yes, i have cupsys and lpr
[12:29] <tonix> but not the lp command
[12:30] <trfc> hallo
[12:30] <hamdan> jbzz : ok..
[12:30] <Seveas> hi
[12:30] <hamdan> # Printer configuration file for CUPS v1.1.23
[12:30] <jbzz> hamdan:   Example:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/HP-4
[12:30] <AMDXP> ok
[12:31] <paulr_> can anyone connect to the Ubuntu forums? They seem to have been down for a few days here
[12:31] <Ng> tonix: lp appears to be in cupsys-client
[12:31] <hamdan> thats the only one i have shown here...DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer
[12:31] <tonix> Ng: ok, i try to install cupsys-client, thanks
[12:32] <bimberi> !forumsdown
[12:32] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[12:32] <paulr_> OK thx
[12:32] <jbzz> hamdan:   Understood.  But you have to modify that line to make it follow the outline I have.
[12:32] <tonix> ok Ng: thanks, it works, now i got the lp command!
[12:32] <hamdan> aaah..ok now i follow
[12:33] <jbzz> Assume the sharing machine is called    unit5   adn the name of the printer share you gave it is   HP-4
[12:33] <hamdan> hamdan:   Generally it is a valid user account on the sharing machine followed by the name of the sharing machine followed by the name of the printer share name
[12:33] <jbzz> hamdan:  Assume the sharing machine is called    unit5   and the name of the printer share you gave it is     HP-4
[12:34] <hamdan> now i'll have to check its sharing name..
[12:34] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.  But notice the valid user account also contains the name of the machine that is sharing.
[12:34] <hamdan> that would be rite
[12:34] <sexcopter8000m> is there a programme to make a video dvd?
[12:35] <hamdan> viceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer----> ure saying that this is not correct then? and i have to change it
[12:36] <jbzz> hamdan:  I believe what you have in that file needs to be modified.
[12:36] <drummer87> sexcopter8000m, qdvdauthor is one.. there are a couple of CLI progs and others. none of which i've really used tho. google is your friend
[12:36] <jbzz> hamdan:    Just that one line.
[12:37] <sexcopter8000m> drummer87, thanks1
[12:37] <sexcopter8000m> er, thanks!
[12:37] <jbzz> hamdan:  What was the name of the 'share' you used on the machine that is sharing the printer?
[12:37] <drummer87> qdvdauthor is just a qt frontend to dvdauthor and some other progs
[12:38] <drummer87> i looked into it not long ago, but cant remember the names of other progs
[12:38] <hamdan> printer6
[12:38] <drummer87> of course there's also kino and cinerella (spelling?) for video editing.. but not dvd authoring as well
[12:39] <janoli> hi how do you define mtu in /etc/network/interfaces, if using dhcp?
[12:39] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Then the line will be changed to something like:   smb://pete:secret@unit5/unit5/printer6
[12:40] <hamdan> ok
[12:41] <gnomefreak> on this supergrub thing do i write the zip to floppy or do i uncompress it and write one of the files to floppy?
[12:41] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/Printer6
[12:42] <hamdan> hells bells!!
[12:42] <hamdan> done it..
[12:42] <hamdan> :)
[12:43] <gnomefreak> brb gonna find out how well this works
[12:44] <jbzz> hamdan:  I think it will be something like    smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6         notice the repeat of the machine name.
[12:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  The machine name is the name of the machine that is sharing the printer.
[12:45] <hamdan> hmm
[12:45] <hamdan> the machine name sharing the printer is etsb03
[12:45] <hamdan> the machine printer attache is etsb04
[12:46] <jbzz> hamdan:  There should be a valid use account on etsb03  that you should use.  Because we are accessing the other machine to print.
[12:47] <Lunkentuss> How much space does an installation of ubuntu take?
[12:47] <ejofee> what is ajax?
[12:47] <jbzz> hamdan:    So the line should look something like:   smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer6
[12:47] <Ng> ejofee: google ;)
[12:47] <Ng> ilba7r: where are these rumours coming from? :o
[12:48] <jbzz> Lukentuss:  About 3.5 gigs is nice.
[12:48] <ardchoille> does anyone know how to take a screenshot of the gdm login screen
[12:48] <Lunkentuss> jbzz anyway to get it lower by removing "crap"
[12:48] <ilba7r> Ng, http://www.fxcentre.co.uk/uk/news.asp?ukts+20060119_26148_267184
[12:48] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, standard install about 2.5gb (i just did a clean install)
[12:48] <Ng> ardchoille: you could log into the console and use a tool like "import" with the right DISPLAY variable magic I think
[12:48] <rixth> I cannot play MP3s in Rhythmbox, I get this in the terminal: http://pastebin.com/518901
[12:48] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, but then u'll be adding stuff
[12:48] <jbzz> Lukentuss:  Have not tried to reduce it.
[12:48] <drummer87> remember
[12:49] <rixth> !ops
[12:49] <ubotu> ops is, like, totally, Help! seb128, bob2, fabbione, lamont, thom, Keybuk, jdub, mdz, Amaranth, tritium, ajmitch, crimsun, ogra, CarlK, Seveas, Burgundavia, apokryphos, thoreauputic, or nalioth.
[12:49] <Lunkentuss> How about server install
[12:49] <Ng> ilba7r: sounds like they just customised it for inhouse use to me, but interesting
[12:49] <hamdan> jbzz : how do i change it to smb://hamdan:fifififi@etsb04/etsb04/Printer6?
[12:49] <rixth> !ops please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[12:49] <ubotu> I'm sorry, i don't know what you're talking about, rixth
[12:49] <ardchoille> Ng: that sounds like it would work. What would the "right DISPLAY magic" be?
[12:49] <Ng> albeit off-topic ;)
[12:49] <drummer87> Lunkentuss, installing a lighter de will reduce the install size.. xfce for eg
[12:49] <rixth> !ops: please give me voice on my unmasked host (xxxxx-bitstream.orcon.net.nz)
[12:49] <ilba7r> Ng, i am on offtopic channel now :)
[12:49] <jbzz> hamdan:  You mean what application do you use?
[12:49] <rixth> Pah.
[12:50] <orion_fr_24> i m new with irc would you have a webpage with the most important command ???
[12:50] <hamdan> yup
[12:50] <Ng> ardchoille: DISPLAY=:0.0  before the import command. I think it'd be something like: "DISPLAY=:0.0 import -window root", but it's a long time since i used import, check its man page
[12:50] <rixth> orion_fr_24, /join #channel, /msg nickname your message, /part #channel and /quit are the main ones
[12:50] <ardchoille> Ng: thank you very much :)
[12:50] <jbzz> hamdan:  That is the tough part.  I use something called    vi    but that is too much for a beginner.   You also have to have higher privileges.
[12:50] <orion_fr_24> rixth: i know those ones except /part
[12:50] <Terminus> orion_fr_24: http://www.irchelp.org/ for help on IRC.
[12:51] <gnomefreak> ok on this supergrub im guessing all i need is the bat file right?
[12:51] <orion_fr_24> Terminus: thx dude
[12:51] <Terminus> orion_fr_24: np. :)
[12:51] <Ng> ardchoille: (import is in the imagemagick package)
[12:51] <hamdan> shucks
[12:51] <robotgeek> orion_fr_24: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XChatHowto
[12:51] <netstar> Where do I get autoconf from?
[12:51] <Snifffurt> hello
[12:51] <robotgeek> ardchoille: http://wiki.ubuntu.com/TakingScreenshots might be helpful
[12:52] <ardchoille> robotgeek: thanks :)
[12:52] <jbzz> hamdan:  I am thinking ... maybe you should set the permissions of that file really low and then just use a word processor or text editor.
[12:52] <robotgeek> netstar: sudo apt-get install autoconf
[12:52] <orion_fr_24> hello everyone
[12:52] <netstar> robotgeek, do I need to enable universe?
[12:53] <robotgeek> netstar: no
[12:53] <jbzz> hamdan:  In the terminal window type    ls -l  printers.conf     (thgose first few vertical bars are lowercase letter   el      as in LIMA
[12:54] <netstar> Where can I get the ubuntu defsilt sources.list?
[12:54] <jbzz> hamdan:    That will show you the permissions of that file.   My file says   -rw-------
[12:54] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrr who made that site :(
[12:55] <Snifffurt> I have some trubble to convert ape and wv files to wav with shntool. It just says: "is not handled by any of the builtin format modules". But how can I build in these modules? or get a shntool version wich this is built in. I have wavpack installed on my system.
[12:55] <ejofee> what is ajax?
[12:55] <Ng> ejofee: asynchronous javascript and xml - see google as I suggested ;)
[12:56] <hamdan> -rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[12:56] <Snifffurt> does anyone have shntool working with this?
[12:56] <drummer87> ejofee, also an abraisove cleaning product
[12:56] <Snifffurt> or know how I could get this running
[12:56] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.  Your file agrees with mine.   Do you have a text editor in Applications  -  Accessories?
[12:57] <hamdan> jbzz : yes sir
[12:57] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Do the following in the terminal window:     chmod 777 printers.conf        that will change the permissions.
[12:58] <hamdan> chmod: changing permissions of `printers.conf': Operation not permitted
[12:58] <jbzz> hamdan:  Actually:      sudo  chmod  777  printers.conf
[12:58] <cyphase> is there wa way to refresh nautilus fom inside a program? or from a terminal?
[12:58] <cyphase> a way*
[12:58] <cyphase> from*
[12:59] <hamdan> ok
[12:59] <jbzz> hamdan:  now try :    ls  -l  printers.conf     it should show something like  -rwxrwxrwx
[12:59] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:00] <mwe> why would you make a config file executeable and writealbe for everyone? sounds like a bad idea
[01:00] <jbzz> hamdan:    Perfect.   Now start up your text editor and  open that file.
[01:00] <jbzz> hamdan:     /etc/cups/printers.conf
[01:01] <hamdan> jbzzhamdan@etsb03:/etc/cups$ /etc/cups/printers.conf
[01:01] <hamdan> /etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: syntax error near unexpected token `newline'
[01:01] <mwe> making a config file in /etc/ chmod 777 is not good pracitise
[01:01] <Toadstool> cyphase: what do you mean by refreshing nautilus from inside a program ?
[01:01] <mwe> max should be 644
[01:02] <hamdan> /etc/cups/printers.conf: line 3: `<DefaultPrinter LaserJet-4-Plus>'
[01:02] <CompShrink> netstar, i sent you a private message about sources.list
[01:02] <C2ODe> error on configure: configure: error: installation or configuration problem: C compiler cannot create executables. any ideas?
[01:03] <Ng> C2ODe: have you installed the build-essential package?
[01:03] <cyphase> Toadstool, like when you press F5, or Ctrl+R
[01:03] <jbzz> hamdan:  What you need to do is start up a text editor and open that file.   Then edit the file.
[01:03] <mwe> hamdan: leaving that config file with those permissions is not a good idea. it should be 600
[01:03] <cyphase> i need the desktop to be refreshed specifically
[01:03] <Toadstool> cyphase: this is done by gam_server
[01:03] <mwe> hamdan: why di you change it to 777?
[01:03] <C2ODe> Ng: sure
[01:03] <senectus> are the ubuntuforums down again?!?!
[01:03] <cyphase> Toadstool, what do you mean?
[01:03] <hamdan> mwe : sorry what?
[01:04] <Ng> senectus: for a few more hours, yes
[01:04] <cyphase> i know that's how it's managed..
[01:04] <senectus> Ng, ok thanks..
[01:04] <cyphase> but i need to be able to refresh manually
[01:04] <Toadstool> ah ok :)
[01:04] <senectus> Does anyone know anything about hamachi VPN ??
[01:04] <mwe> mwest: changign permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea
[01:05] <hamdan> jbzz : ok opened file
[01:05] <mwe> hamdan: changing permissions of /etc/cups/printers.conf to 777 is not a good idea
[01:05] <jbzz> hamdan:  Now make the changes to the text.
[01:05] <hamdan> jbzz : what is mwe talkin about?
[01:06] <jbzz> hamdan:  He is not aware of what we are trying to accomplish.
[01:06] <mwe> hamdan: didn't you do sudo chmod 777 printer.conf?
[01:06] <selinium> Is there an apt-get command to re-install?
[01:06] <netstar> thanks comes
[01:06] <shirish> hi all,  is www.ubuntuforums.org or http://ubuntuforums down?
[01:06] <netstar> CompShrink, even
[01:06] <hamdan> mwe : pls dont confuse me
[01:06] <mwe> shirish: yeah all the time
[01:06] <Ng> Seveas: any chance of topic'ing the forum info? ;)
[01:06] <Ng> shirish: yes, until later today
[01:07] <mwe> hamdan: I'm just saying changing permissions like that is a bad idea
[01:07] <Ng> selinium: --reinstall (see the man page for apt-get)
[01:07] <CompShrink> netstar, no problem
[01:07] <hamdan> mwe : and why is that?
[01:07] <selinium> Ng cheers :)
[01:08] <CompShrink> hamdan, it makes you vulnerable
[01:08] <mwe> hamdan: it's insecure and some programs wont even run if the config file has wrong permissions
[01:08] <shirish> Ng: why are the forums down, some zombie attacks or something?
[01:08] <Ng> shirish: they're just being moved afaik
[01:08] <mwe> hamdan: also setting the exe bit is plain wrong
[01:08] <CompShrink> shirish, they're changing servers
[01:09] <Snifffurt> is ubuntuforums.org down?
[01:09] <shirish> o.k. o.k. they should've then atleast sent a mail to all the account holders or put it up on the wiki or somewhere
[01:09] <khermans> Anyone know the ImageMagick convert command well?
[01:09] <hamdan> makes me vulnerable....well? jbzz is just tryin to help me out here..
[01:09] <jbzz> hamdan:  Stay focused on what we are doing.
[01:09] <mwe> hamdan: the permissions should be -rw-------. there's no need to change that
[01:10] <mwe> hamdan: no but normal users should not have rights to change system files. for a reason
[01:10] <mwe> hamdan: do what you want it's your system. but IMO it's not good advice to change permissions of that file like that
[01:10] <hamdan> JBZZ : sorry focused now..changed to DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:11] <bigjb> anyone run a irc proxy on ubuntu?
[01:11] <jbzz> hamdan:  Super.  That looks like it will work.
[01:11] <hamdan> jbzz : now save?
[01:11] <mwe> jbzz: why did you tell him to change permissions of that file?
[01:11] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.  Save.
[01:11] <mwe> jbzz: it should be 600 like it was
[01:12] <brian_> has anyone had any luck instally ymessenger
[01:12] <hamdan> Could not save the file "/etc/cups/printers.conf"
[01:12] <brian_> installing*
[01:12] <hamdan> arggh
[01:12] <ilba7r> brian had not problems installing it here
[01:12] <mwe> brian_: the linux version sucks. gaim is superior
[01:12] <brian_> i do sudo apt-get install ymessenger and it says no candidate
[01:12] <brian_> mwe, no file transfer
[01:13] <AMDXP> brian_: you have to download it from the site and install it
[01:13] <mwe> brian_: there is an outdated version available at yahoo.com
[01:13] <hamdan> Could not create a backup file.
[01:13] <ilba7r> brian_, do it from yahoo site. download bin packages. also there are alternatives
[01:13] <hamdan> jbzz : cant save
[01:13] <brian_> ilba7r, i need to be bale to do file transfer from yahoo
[01:13] <jbzz> hamdan:  Odd.  You should have permission to change that file.
[01:13] <ilba7r> i installed the bin files from yahoo
[01:14] <hamdan> jbzz : not giving me permission
[01:15] <jbzz> hamdan:  With the -rwxrwxrwx you should be able to modify that file.
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: why did you tell him to change the permissions of the file?
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: it's a bad idea
[01:15] <mwe> jbzz: he should just edit it with sudo $EDITOR
[01:16] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:16] <shirish> I agree with mwe, gaim is superior
[01:16] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe mwe would like to take over from here.
[01:16] <ejofee> Ng: thank you
[01:17] <hamdan> jbzz : im no expert..im counting on you guys
[01:17] <mwe> jbzz: the intention is good, but changing permissions of system files is bad practise
[01:17] <jbzz> hamdan:  mwe:  Please go ahead and finish up.
[01:18] <mwe> jbzz: I don't know what he wants to do. I just spotted the chmod 777 which is a bad idea
[01:18] <hamdan> jbzz : lets just carry on...
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Hi I need help!
[01:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.  What editor are you using?
[01:19] <hamdan> jbzz: i cant save the changes..it wont grant me access
[01:19] <mwe> jbzz: please tell him to change perms back to 600
[01:19] <hamdan> the standard editor
[01:19] <hamdan> that comes with the installation disk
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> my ubuntu does start... does not mount as well...  i will past the errors
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> I encounter error when booting the OS.. error message is
[01:19] <jbzz> hamdan:  mwe:  Please take over if you need to.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> FATAL: Module minix not found
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Mount: mouting /dev/hda2 on /root failed: no such deivce
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Mount: mouting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> mount: muting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Target filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> BusyBox v1.00-pre10 (Debian 20046623-1ubuntu) Built-in shell (ash)
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> Enter "help" for a list of built-in commands/.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> /bin/sh: Can't access TTY: job control turned off.
[01:19] <ZhiChiang> #
[01:20] <ZhiChiang> can anybody help me how to fix this problem?
[01:20] <ilba7r> !tell ZhiChiang about pastebin
[01:20] <mwe> ZhiChiang: don't paste in the channel
[01:20] <ZhiChiang> im sorry!
[01:20] <hamdan> jbzz : carry on please we've come this far, we'll deal with mwe later
[01:20] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.   What editor are you using?
[01:20] <hamdan> the standard editor
[01:20] <hamdan> that comes with the installation disk
[01:21] <mwe> destroy you system if you like. I'll shut up about it
[01:21] <ZhiChiang> sorry doesnt know that.....
[01:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    What is the name of the editor?
[01:21] <hamdan> mwe: we'll change it back once we are done..ok?you can help me change perms back once we are done
[01:21] <Seveas> ZhiChiang, pasting is THE way to loose all chances of getting help. Simple netiquette should tell you that flooding is stupid.
[01:21] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, suggest turn off machine completely for 20 secs & reboot
[01:22] <hamdan> gedit?
[01:22] <hamdan> jbzz:gedit?
[01:22] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.   I have used that.   Well try saving the file as a different name.
[01:22] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, what h/w u running on?
[01:23] <hamdan> jbzz : gimme a name
[01:23] <jbzz> hamdan:    Like   print.txt
[01:23] <looksaus> have there been profound changes to xorg the last days? it refuses to start on my ibook
[01:23] <hamdan> file path?
[01:23] <looksaus> it's complaining about the touchpad, amongst other things...
[01:24] <jbzz> hamdan:    /etc/cups/print.txt
[01:24] <mwe> looksaus: no changes in breezy here
[01:24] <looksaus> mwe: in dapper, I mean, sorry
[01:24] <Seveas> looksaus, check all paths in xorg.conf and gdm.conf
[01:24] <hamdan> jbzz : shucks its now saved /etc/cups/print.config !!
[01:25] <looksaus> I see a /dev/.static/dev/input/mice
[01:25] <looksaus> Seveas, don't know if it was like this before
[01:25] <ZhiChiang> Hi Thanks ...
[01:25] <jeiks> Hi. When I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Is this a common thing?
[01:25] <Ng> looksaus: dapper is an unstable development branch... it's going to break randomly
[01:25] <jbzz> hamdan:    You mean it saved the file properly?
[01:25] <hamdan> jbzz :yup no problem
[01:25] <looksaus> Ng, perfectly aware of that, thx anyway
[01:25] <Seveas> looksaus, a few symlinks that were kept for compatibility were removed, probably these are still used in gdm.conf or xorg.conf (happened to a lot of people)
[01:25] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: I did that already and I still encounter error...
[01:26] <ZhiChiang> fragzoo: I am running the ubuntu on Dell inspiron 700m laptop computer
[01:26] <looksaus> Seveas, should I reference this /dev/.static/dev/input/mice directly?
[01:26] <jbzz> hamdan:    That makes more sense.
[01:26] <noirequus> rixth: did you get your problem taken care of?
[01:26] <hamdan> jbzz : now its called /etc/cups/print.conf
[01:26] <ZhiChiang> I just use the pastebin @ http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:26] <hamdan> i'll be damned
[01:26] <jbzz> hamdan:    Oh.  A slightly different name.
[01:26] <Seveas> looksaus, no, /dev/.static should ideally not be used at all
[01:26] <hamdan> jbzz : yes slightly
[01:27] <jbzz> hamdan:  Well, go back to the terminal session again.
[01:27] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[01:27] <looksaus> hm, any idea where I should point for my mouse to work then?
[01:27] <looksaus> or is it up to me to read xorg.conf docs?
[01:28] <jbzz> hamdan:    If you are still in the same directory    /etc/ups   then type    cat  print.conf    and look at the new file you made.
[01:28] <dutch> just found an entry in /tmp that starts "ssh-"..what does it mean ?
[01:28] <Seveas> looksaus, sorry, I don't use dapper yet, I just repeat what I heard from others  :)
[01:28] <looksaus> np, thx Seveas
[01:28] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:28] <jbzz> hamdan:    I meant   /etc/cups   directory.   And make sure the new file looks correct.
[01:29] <ZhiChiang> any suggestion or fix for this problem? http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7515
[01:29] <mwe> dutch: probaly nothing to worry about. /tmp are fo temporary files. maybe ssh put some temp file there
[01:29] <hamdan> jbzz : looks good?
[01:29] <dutch> mwe: but, I don't use ssh :(
[01:29] <mwe> dutch: well I have it too
[01:29] <jbzz> hamdan:    It should look like the original but with only the changes you made to the one line.
[01:29] <looksaus> woohoo, we are in business again
[01:29] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:30] <dutch> mwe: ok, thanks...was wondering.
[01:30] <AMDXP> wow i have one hella lag
[01:30] <looksaus> ... somewhat
[01:30] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, try this - turn on machine & when grub menu appears - hit 'e' - then wait 20 secs, then hit 'CR' & then 'b' to boot
[01:30] <hamdan> jbzz : changes made -->DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:30] <mwe> dutch: maybe sshd is running? or some program you used did run ssh. I wouldn't worry
[01:30] <jeiks> When I lock the screen or otherwhise leave the computer unattended, it often has a habit of logging out automatically after a while. Does anybody know how to fix this?
[01:31] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, when was your last kernel update btw?
[01:31] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes that looks right.   Now we can rename the original file to protect it in case we need to look at it later.
[01:31] <ilba7r> ZhiChiang, did you play with mounting options. or fstab file
[01:31] <hamdan> jbzz : show me the way
[01:31] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: kernel was updated last week..
[01:32] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: okay I will try your suggestion
[01:32] <jbzz> hamdan:     In the terminal window type:    mv   printers.conf   printers.conf_original              just like that
[01:32] <looksaus> Seveas, heard of problems like the following:
[01:32] <parax> hi
[01:32] <hamdan> mv: cannot move `printers.conf' to `printers.conf_original': Operation not permitted
[01:32] <looksaus> gdm starts
[01:33] <looksaus> I start logging in and everything goes bonkers
[01:33] <parax> anybody has already test ubuntu on a new apple imac intel core duo?
[01:33] <looksaus> trying to be more precise, sorry
[01:33] <Seveas> looksaus, that would suggest an error in your user data, try creating a new user and logging in with that account
[01:33] <jbzz> hamdan:    Type this :    ls  -l  printers.conf
[01:33] <looksaus> I still have a moving mouse pointer
[01:33] <jbzz> hamdan:    That will show the permissions again.
[01:34] <hamdan> jbzz: yup
[01:34] <frogzoo> yar, when the gnome files are messed up, is there any way to recover the configs? other than recreating the user?
[01:34] <jbzz> hamdan:    Are they still    -rwxrwxrwx    ?
[01:34] <hamdan> -rwxrwxrwx  1 cupsys lpadmin 286 2006-01-23 19:41 printers.conf
[01:34] <mwe> jbzz: normal users can't create or move files in /etc
[01:34] <mwe> jbzz: you need sudo for that
[01:34] <jeiks> parax: I haven't heard of anyone who has been able to install linux on an imac intel core duo yet
[01:35] <AMDXP> anyone use freenx?
[01:35] <jbzz> hamdan:  OK.   Lets try:     sudo  mv  printers.conf   printers.conf_original                  like that
[01:36] <hamdan> done
[01:36] <ashrack> i will probably reinstall ubuntu on one of my machine. I would like to know which files should I backup so I could just restore them when my fresh ubuntu install is complete?
[01:37] <looksaus> Seveas, damn, even a new user seems to have probs
[01:37] <luke_> hi everybody!!!
[01:37] <mwe> ashrack: I'd back up my home dir and /etc
[01:37] <frogzoo> ashrack, /var/spool/mail & /home for starters
[01:37] <luke_> i was wondering ... how do i install GPART on my ubuntu
[01:37] <AMDXP> luke_: hi there
[01:37] <gaz-> say i install windows on my machine, which overwrites grub, is it easy to remake grub the default bootloader e.g. replace windows's mbr
[01:37] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now do this:      sudo  mv  printer.conf  printers.conf          but get that spelling right
[01:38] <luke_> can anybody help me out
[01:38] <frogzoo> luke_, search for gpart in synaptic & apply :D
[01:38] <tristan> ask luke_
[01:38] <jbzz> hamdan:    Or was it      sudo   mv   print.conf  printers.conf
[01:38] <AMDXP> gaz-: no usually you have to install windows and then ubuntu
[01:38] <luke_> i already did it
[01:38] <hamdan> u mean print.conf ?
[01:38] <ashrack> tanx, thought so too
[01:38] <jbzz> hamdan:  Yes.
[01:38] <Seveas> looksaus, well, in a way that is a good thing since now you can blame it on the deveopers ;)
[01:38] <hamdan> new file is print.conf
[01:38] <mwe> print.config was the name you gave it
[01:38] <frogzoo> luke_, u saying u couldn't find gparted ?
[01:38] <luke_> nope
[01:39] <luke_> i found it and then checked it
[01:39] <tristan> luke_ : sudo apt-get install gparted
[01:39] <luke_> it seems that the packages were downloaded but
[01:39] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes we need to 'move' that     print.conf file to be  printers.conf
[01:39] <frogzoo> luke_, after u check it u have to click 'apply'
[01:39] <hamdan> done
[01:39] <gaz-> AMDXP, bit surely its possible to overwrite the mbr with grub again?
[01:39] <luke_> i did!
[01:39] <gaz-> but*
[01:40] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now we need to change the owner as follows    sudo chown cups printers.conf
[01:40] <frogzoo> luke_, does synaptic now show the pkg as installed?
[01:40] <looksaus> Seveas, oof, I managed to get at least an xterm
[01:40] <luke_> how can i know if it is in my system or not
[01:40] <AMDXP> gaz-: i think you will loose your window install if you do I am not sure though
[01:40] <luke_> yep!
[01:40] <mwe> AMDXP: you wont
[01:40] <AMDXP> l,ok i stand corrected
[01:40] <gaz-> AMDXP naa you shouldnt
[01:40] <frogzoo> luke_, either just enter gpart & press tab, or dpkg -l |grep gpart
[01:41] <hamdan> chown: `cups': invalid user
[01:41] <frogzoo> luke_, but if synaptic shows the pkg as installed, then....
[01:41] <mwe> hamdan: cupsys
[01:41] <jbzz> hamdan:    OK.      sudo  chown  cupsys  printers.conf
[01:42] <mwe> groups should be lpadmin
[01:42] <luke_> i went to...SYSTEM>ADMIN>ADD APPLICATION
[01:42] <hamdan> done
[01:42] <luke_> then i checked gpart
[01:42] <jbzz> hamdan:     Now we change the group:      sudo  chgrp  lpadmin  printers.conf
[01:43] <hamdan> done
[01:43] <mwe> you should also chmod 600 printers.conf. sorry for interfering
[01:43] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now change the permissions back:     sudo  chmod  600  printers.conf
[01:44] <hamdan> changed owner from who to who? change group from what to what?
[01:44] <hamdan> done
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now look at it again:    ls  -l  printers.conf
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:    It should look like   -rw-------     cupsys  lpadmin
[01:45] <hamdan> -rw-------  1 cupsys lpadmin 294 2006-01-23 20:26 printers.conf
[01:45] <jbzz> hamdan:  Looks right.
[01:45] <hamdan> jbzz: looks good
[01:46] <jbzz> hamdan:    Now if we have that right you have a good chance that you can print to the shared printer.
[01:46] <hzg> ask for help about mysql 4.1.12 on ubuntu linux 5.10
[01:46] <hamdan> can we check that?
[01:47] <jbzz> hamdan:    If it is wrong then it needs to be modified more or something else is wrong with the share.
[01:47] <hzg> i change encoding in my.cnf of mysql 4.1.12,but it doesn't work
[01:47] <hamdan> jbzz : can we check it?
[01:48] <jbzz> hamdan:    It has to be very close to perfect the way it is.  Unless there is a spelling error.  Yes give it a try.
[01:48] <hamdan> jbzz : im going to re-add a printer in my printer folder
[01:49] <rapha> Hi all!
[01:49] <jbzz> hamdan:    Wait.
[01:49] <ZhiChiang> hi frogzoo... when I hit e this is the menu i got http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7516
[01:49] <rapha> Can somebody help me solve a problem with HTML tidy?
[01:49] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i cant find the CR
[01:49] <jbzz> hamdan:    If you make any change to that printer you created you might change the modifications we made.
[01:50] <hzg> i look for mysql encoding on google,someone say mysql 4.1.12 should update to mysql 4.1.16.really?
[01:50] <hamdan> ok..
[01:50] <folki> what command can I use to show list of all processes?
[01:50] <Ng> ps auwx
[01:51] <luke_> now....if gpart is installed on my system... where can i find it
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:    Is that printer the 'default' printer when you look at your printers?
[01:51] <hamdan> jbzz : yes it is
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:  Excellent.
[01:51] <tristan> luke_ try to type gparted in terminal
[01:51] <jbzz> hamdan:    You might try gedit and print to that printer.
[01:52] <luke_> command not found...
[01:52] <folki> can anybody help me please?i need to show list of all processes.
[01:53] <cyphase> ouch
[01:53] <luke_> that`s what i get
[01:53] <Rolan> folki: ps aux
[01:53] <kestas> is there any flowchart software for linux?
[01:53] <folki> thnx
[01:53] <hzg> to folki:ps -ef
[01:53] <pixelfairy> ugh... slow download from the us archive...
[01:53] <pixelfairy> kestas: you can use draw in openoffice or dia
[01:53] <cyphase> kesteas, try Dia
[01:53] <jbzz> folki:  use the command:      ps -aux
[01:54] <AMDXP> wow
[01:54] <hamdan> cat  print.conf
[01:54] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:fifififi@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[01:54] <n00b> hi guys
[01:54] <folki> thank u all...and I have one problem yet.I installed some software before and i need to uninstall it now.how can i do that?
[01:54] <n00b> i know that this may be question that is unrelated to ubuntu
[01:55] <kestas> pixelfairy, thanks Draw will do fine :)
[01:55] <n00b> but how would i be able to create a slackware 10.2 DVD rather than having all those CDs?
[01:55] <pixelfairy> noob the directions come with slackware
[01:55] <BradM> Has anyone ever used Slackware before?
[01:55] <gaz-> n00b, download slack dvd image?
[01:56] <pixelfairy> BradM: been using slackware since like 94
[01:56] <hzg> folki: use synaptic package managment
[01:56] <BradM> Do you use Ubuntu too?
[01:56] <pixelfairy> yes
[01:56] <pixelfairy> isnt there a slackware channel?
[01:56] <BradM> How much different are the two?
[01:56] <n00b> gaz- yes but i would like to download it from my ISP (since downloads count)
[01:56] <n00b> pixelfairy, where can i find this information?
[01:57] <pixelfairy> BradM: the quick answer, is that slackware just dumps a working system on your box and leaves you alone, it has a package system, which makes updates easy and makeing your own packages easy, if your comfy on the command line
[01:57] <hamdan> jbzz: ill reboot and brb
[01:57] <jbzz> hamdan:  Roger.
[01:57] <sorush20> what is a good chess game/
[01:58] <luke_> darnet
[01:58] <pixelfairy> n00b: i think its on the first cd, but someones borrowing mine
[01:58] <luke_> alright!!!
[01:58] <BradM> pixelfairy, would you reccomend a switch from Ubuntu to Slackware?
[01:58] <luke_> can anyone help me to install Gpart on my system...
[01:58] <pixelfairy> BradM: for myself, i like slackware. you can try it in qemu or vmware
[01:58] <folki> ok, thanks
[01:58] <pixelfairy> ist pretty simple if you know unix
[01:59] <BradM> I might give it a tr.
[01:59] <BradM> try*
[01:59] <BradM> i'm going to have to install gnome though
[01:59] <sorush20> any good chess games?
[01:59] <pixelfairy> virtual manchines (qemu, vmware, virtualpc etc) are a good thing
[01:59] <luke_> it says.... E:Couldn`t find ....
[01:59] <Epic> vmware is amazing
[01:59] <sorush20> knights is the one I've found, although I don't know how to get the engines for it?
[01:59] <Epic> That's what I'm running ubuntu on right now and it's smooth as silk on a old athlon system
[01:59] <luke_> after i`ve run [sudo apt-get install gparted
[02:00] <pixelfairy> Epic: vmware is great till you want to script it
[02:00] <pixelfairy> but yea, im a fan of vmware too
[02:00] <Epic> I've never wrote a script
[02:00] <Epic> doesn't concern me too much :)
[02:01] <pixelfairy> i like to make networks of virtual machines that change after i started it (unlike most network scripts)
[02:01] <pixelfairy> uml and qemu are good for that
[02:01] <pixelfairy> right now im just setting up a laptop for an artist
[02:02] <MrRio> heyhey
[02:02] <pixelfairy> and ubuntu is good for that
[02:02] <pixelfairy> at least this one
[02:02] <AMDXP> well i want to make a network using thin clients
[02:02] <Epic> It just surprises me how well it runs now. This is the first time I have used it in a few versions
[02:02] <MrRio> ive got gnome and now kde on this system, ive set my gnome theme in a kde control panel, and now i cant change it using gnome-theme-manager
[02:02] <MrRio> any idea why?
[02:02] <Epic> Host OS is XP and I have ReactOS running too
[02:02] <Epic> All of them are smooth
[02:02] <pixelfairy> reactos runs now?
[02:02] <pixelfairy> how is it?
[02:03] <Epic> Actually ReactOS won't boot on this system unless it's within VMware
[02:03] <pixelfairy> i love how well vmware automagically bridges to ethernet
[02:03] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, just hit enter & then 'b' to boot
[02:03] <hamdan> jbzz
[02:03] <Epic> I dunno why
[02:04] <jbzz> hamdan:    Yes.
[02:04] <pixelfairy> if only there was a way to run the installed xp in a virtual machine once in awhile
[02:04] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i does the same thing :(
[02:04] <hamdan> printer wont stop churnin our paper
[02:04] <pixelfairy> so the user wont have to reboot just to do something trivial in windows
[02:04] <Epic> ??
[02:04] <jbzz> hamdan:    Shut off the printer
[02:04] <pixelfairy> XP is supposed to freak out if hardware changes (or something like that)
[02:04] <hamdan> did that
[02:04] <allison_1984> jbzz: hey man
[02:05] <hamdan> when turned it back on..i continued churnin out paper
[02:05] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, well I dunno if I had the same problem - but my machine was doing something similiar, & it 'just' went away - not sure why
[02:05] <Epic> it can
[02:05] <Epic> Depends on what changes
[02:05] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe check your printer and place a hold on what it is printing.
[02:05] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, do you use usb or pcmcia devices?
[02:06] <jbzz> hamdan:    That probably means we are sending a print job to that printer but maybe the driver is not appropriate.
[02:06] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i am using usb devices with mouse and my DVD writer.
[02:06] <hamdan> jbzz : maybe
[02:06] <gaz-> anyone know which system service is used at startup to synchronise the system clock on the internet?
[02:06] <hamdan> anyway to check via terminal to see if everything is ok?
[02:06] <jbzz> hamdan:    Did you make the choice of printer to match the printer exactly?
[02:06] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, but no usb storage?
[02:07] <hamdan> jbzz : yes i did
[02:07] <hamdan> laserjet-4-plus
[02:07] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well that is odd.     Laserjet 4 plus.
[02:07] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: i remember, my dvd writer hang and I just remove the usb without enjecting or unmounting the disk... do you think that might be the problem? yes I have usb storage (external mobile hard disk)
[02:08] <bigjb> http
[02:08] <jbzz> hamdan:    We must be pointed to the correct share point and something is being sent.
[02:08] <bigjb> grr
[02:08] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: but I didnt use my usb drive since last week.
[02:08] <bigjb> wrong keyboard
[02:08] <jerris> does anybody know how to rest the video drivers?
[02:08] <hamdan> now my printer wont stop churning out paper..
[02:08] <hamdan> :)
[02:08] <frogzoo> ZhiChiang, I'd disconnect the usb device & reinstall grub - google for 'ubuntu grub recovery'
[02:08] <ZhiChiang> ntfs, ext3, ext3, extended, swap, fat32
[02:09] <sexcopter8000m> hi, sorry this is a tad off-topic, but does anyone know about msn protocols? friend has found this http://www.block-checker.com/ and wants to know if it's a scam or if it really is possible to find who's blocked you
[02:09] <jbzz> hamdan:    There might be a large printkob in the printer cue.  See if you can stop that.
[02:09] <ZhiChiang> ooppss sorry wrong window
[02:09] <jbzz> hamdan:    Cancel the job maybe.
[02:09] <frogzoo> jerris, x drivers are fat & sluggish & need the exercise :)
[02:09] <hamdan> jbzz ; no job pending
[02:09] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: why dont you just try it? maybe with ethereal running
[02:10] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, using wine?
[02:10] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well what do you make of that.   There should be some way of flushing the job out of that laserjet memory.
[02:10] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: gaim might be easier
[02:10] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: okay i will try1
[02:11] <ZhiChiang> frogzoo: thanks a lor
[02:11] <bigjb> is there a nice lightweight httpd server from the default repositories with python cgi support
[02:11] <pixelfairy> oh its a desktop app
[02:11] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe you will have to turn it off and on a few times to dump whatever it has already received.
[02:11] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, if it is a loads of crap and is loaded with spyware for windoz users, am i as an ubuntu user safe from all that?
[02:11] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: or using qemu or vmware
[02:11] <ZhiChiang> brb
[02:11] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: thats why you do it in a virtual machine
[02:11] <hamdan> ok..let me try that..
[02:12] <sexcopter8000m> ok, pixelfairy, but i've *never* used vmware or qemu, is it easy and intuitive?
[02:12] <hamdan> jbzz : meanwhile how can we confirm that what we did just now was right?
[02:12] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: if theres a way to tell, then the right traffic would probably show up on sniffer anyway
[02:12] <rambo3> no its memory needy and usless
[02:12] <parhitean> i have printer lexmark how to set up my my ubuntu
[02:12] <frogzoo> sexcopter8000m, the installs are a pita - extraordinarily slow going
[02:12] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: both are pretty easy, vmware would be better for this
[02:13] <pixelfairy> qemu is slow on disk access
[02:13] <pixelfairy> which makes installing windows slow
[02:13] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well the only thing I question would be any settings that you might have made that (for whatever reason) just were not right.
[02:13] <jbzz> hamdan:    I do not know how many options you had in terms of drivers, etc.  Generally the recommended driver is the best 'first' choice.
[02:14] <hamdan> jbzz :  lol..its still churning out empty paper..
[02:14] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: theres probably an easier safer way to check. and if msn finds out, they would probalby fix it anyway
[02:14] <rambo3> open mozilla http://localhost:631
[02:14] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, oh i see lol, it entails installing a virtual windows system... well i'm tight on hdd space at the moment, so i can't right now
[02:14] <pixelfairy> that kinda thing really should be server side
[02:14] <jbzz> hamdan:    Shut it off for about 1 minute and then turn it back on and see what happens.
[02:15] <sexcopter8000m> just asked in #gaim and someone's pointed out that since msn messenger version 6, everyone who's not on your list is blocked
[02:15] <jbzz> hamdan:    I am thinking it got a huge amount of what it thinks are 'form feeds'.
[02:15] <Tusnal> hello anybody home?
[02:15] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: make a new msn in gaim and see what happens when you block yourself, then try to talk to the blocked name or something and see what the sniffer or gaims debugging output tells you. ethereal is good at decoding that stuff
[02:16] <jbzz> hamdan:     As if the data sent was being garbaged up.
[02:16] <hamdan> jbzz : ure guess is as good as mine
[02:16] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well think about that.  If every character that was sent was interpreted as a form feed ... wow.
[02:16] <rapha> Hi all!
[02:17] <Tusnal> Hello, i just checked distrowatch and it seems like there is a "snapshot" version, anybody know where i can get it from?
[02:17] <hamdan> jbzz : freaky
[02:17] <rapha> Anybody else using an old Clamshell iBook here?
[02:17] <marccd> screen es lo ms :-D
[02:17] <pixelfairy> sexcopter8000m: blockchecker looks pretty full of it
[02:18] <sexcopter8000m> pixelfairy, what do you mean? full of crap?
[02:18] <pixelfairy> yea
[02:18] <hamdan> jbzz : ive switched it off now...maybe the ol' thing needs a break..
[02:18] <pixelfairy> those protocols change all the time
[02:18] <pixelfairy> as any gaim user would tell you
[02:18] <pixelfairy> if not full of it, then its probalby not doing things it should
[02:18] <MrRio> anyone know why i cant change my gtk theme using gnome-theme-manager after changing it in kde?
[02:19] <jbzz> Ihamdan:    I see the recommended driver for that printer in the printer setup.  There were not too many drivers available.
[02:19] <frogzoo> Tusnal, Dapper perhaps?
[02:19] <jbzz> hamdan:   hpijs   appears to be the recommended printer driver.
[02:19] <frogzoo> !tell Tusnal about dapper
[02:20] <Tusnal> oh maybe
[02:20] <jbzz> hamdan:  Hey there is another printer entry called Laserjet 4 series and it suggests a different driver.
[02:20] <Tusnal> can i type an url here?
[02:20] <frogzoo> Tusnal, yep
[02:20] <hamdan> jbzz : i've just noticed that
[02:20] <hamdan> jbzz : that wasnt there before
[02:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    Called   High Quality Image (Gimp-Print) (gimp-pint) (Suggested)
[02:21] <Tusnal> http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu see.. here is a version called "snapshot" that got all new packages
[02:21] <jbzz> aybe that is worth a try at this point.
[02:21] <Tusnal> it is probably dapper but i dont know
[02:21] <jbzz> hamdan:    Maybe that is worth a try at this point.
[02:22] <frogzoo> Tusnal, dapper is pretty bleeding edge - I think that's about as messy as it gets/or you'd want
[02:22] <Tusnal> frogzoo: i just want to give it a try .. what do u recommend?
[02:23] <jbzz> hamdan:    Strange that such closely related models have completely different drivers suggested.
[02:23] <frogzoo> Tusnal, depends on your experience/confidence & what you're trying to do - but dapper will break on you regardless
[02:23] <drummer87> Tusnal, remember there is a big warning about NOT using dapper as ur main os. test it separately.
[02:23] <alex____> hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?
[02:23] <alex___> hey I have a problem when I run the apache server I have interference with the wireless conection, how can I resolve that?
[02:23] <drummer87> there's lots about it in the forums. when they're back up
[02:24] <Tusnal> so i better get the stable one .. 5.10 will work i guess so
[02:24] <jbzz> hamdan:  I still feel we must have the modified line correct.   Otherwise the garbage would not have gone to the correct sharepoint.
[02:24] <Tusnal> thx you guys
[02:25] <drummer87> Tusnal, feel free to test dapper.. just know it's just for testing and will break often with changes the devs make every day
[02:25] <adub> is there a command i can run to find out my hard drive rpm
[02:26] <Tusnal> later thx
[02:26] <superposi> hola a tod@s
[02:26] <superposi> hi at all
[02:26] <hamdan> jbzz  : hpijs driver dont work at all
[02:27] <jbzz> hamdan:    I was just nosing around in Google looking for any suggestions.
[02:29] <hamdan> jbzz : my printer now shos error 20 mem overflow
[02:29] <hamdan> :)
[02:29] <hamdan> jbzz : my printer now shows error 20 mem overflow
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:    As if it has received more data than it can handle.
[02:30] <hamdan> jbzz : youre right..
[02:30] <hamdan> memory overflow
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:   Or maybe because we are turning it on and off and the buffer control is brain dead.
[02:30] <jbzz> hamdan:    I saw something on Google.  Let me look at that.
[02:31] <hamdan> ok
[02:31] <fourebees> Hi all. Just a quick questions. I tried to access the Ubuntu forum just now and ... nothing. The site didn't come up. Is there a problem with it?
[02:31] <robotgeek> !forumsdown
[02:31] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[02:32] <fourebees> no probs ubotu. Thanks for that. This is the first time I've been on this channel and the service has been impeccable :))
[02:33] <hubbadub> has anyone gotten Alpha Centauri to work in Cedega?
[02:33] <fourebees> thanks all. Hope you have a good day/night where ever you are.
[02:36] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[02:36] <alex___> hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?
[02:38] <rotem> xine, mplayer and xmms are seg faulting at start up, how can i fix this?
[02:38] <kestas> hmm
[02:38] <kestas> does totem segfault?
[02:38] <_jason> rotem: did you get them from the repos?
[02:39] <jbzz> hamdan:    Well I did not find anything helpful.  There were others that had lots of formfeeds.  But I did not see any solutions.
[02:39] <rotem> kestas, yes
[02:39] <rotem> _jason, yes
[02:39] <n00b> hey guys are there any other distro's like damn small linux?
[02:40] <jbzz> hamdan:    Most suspected that the drivers were incorrect (such as using postscript) but no solutions were noted.  You cannot be the only one with this problem.
[02:40] <_jason> rotem: run 'mplayer' in a terminal.  get any useful info?   are you using breezy?
[02:40] <rotem> _jason, i am runnign breezy and ti segfaults before it does anything
[02:40] <kestas> rotem, how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:40] <jbzz> hamdan:  Maybe it would be worth asking others here which driver works with the Laserjet 4.
[02:40] <rotem> kestas, it says
[02:41] <kestas> rotem, are you on any special hardware? 64-bit?
[02:41] <hamdan> jbzz : rite..anyone?
[02:41] <_jason> rotem: mplayer -ao null /path/to/some/movie
[02:41] <rotem> kestas, nope regular 32 bit
[02:41] <kestas> what does it say?
[02:41] <hamdan> anyone : laserjet 4 plus problem here...
[02:42] <rotem> _jason, still segfaults
[02:42] <kestas> hamdan, a google would be more productive, you probably wont find anyone with some obscure printer here
[02:42] <kestas> how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:42] <JoeBlow> i accidentl deleted my trach icon, how do i put it back
[02:42] <_jason> rotem: try 'mplayer -vo  null /path/to/movie'
[02:42] <kestas> JoeBlow, right click on the panel, click add
[02:43] <jbzz> haman:    Take a look at this:  http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4
[02:43] <rotem> _jestas: same
[02:43] <_jason> rotem: did it ever work, or always seg faulted?
[02:43] <rotem> _jason, it used to work. i dont remember doign anythign before ti stoppepd working
[02:43] <kestas> how do you know it's segfaulting?
[02:43] <alex___> hey when I run the apache server I have problems wwith the wireless conection how can I resolve it?
[02:43] <rotem> kestas, it says
[02:43] <kestas> what does it say?
[02:44] <_jason> rotem: you have tried different files?
[02:44] <rotem> _jason, yes, same thing
[02:44] <robotgeek> alex___: what kind of problems? please give details?
[02:45] <rotem> _jason, do these programs all use the same lib?
[02:45] <hamdan> jbvv : that should be http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus
[02:46] <_jason> rotem: mplayer and xmms are pretty related, I think xmms likes to keep to itself but it does use the w32codecs for wmv9.  I don't know too many details though
[02:46] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[02:46] <rotem> _jason, coudl it be that my w32codecs is corrupt
[02:47] <_jason> rotem: try a file that doesn't use w32codecs
[02:47] <_jason> probably not
[02:48] <rotem> deletign the codecs doesnt help
[02:48] <alex___> robotgeek: well when apache is up, and when I try to connect via dhclient the internet is ok but some minutes later the internet gone, and I thin k that is because they are trying to use the 127.0.0.1
[02:48] <rotem> _jason, btw gstreamer works
[02:48] <kestas> I'd try reinstalling all xine libs
[02:49] <kestas> could be motif thouhg
[02:49] <rotem> thanks for your help but i need to go
[02:49] <kestas> could be a number of things
[02:49] <robotgeek> alex___: your wireless drops when apache is running?
[02:50] <alex___> robotgeek: yes
[02:50] <robotgeek> alex___: which wireless card is this?
[02:50] <tatters> anyone running snort-mysql on ubuntu?
[02:50] <DevGet> hi all! I'm looking for a good formula and writing program, oo.org2 formula editor isn't my friend..
[02:51] <alex___> robotgeek: is D-Link
[02:51] <_jason> DevGet: learn latex
[02:51] <luite> DevGet: kformula maybe?
[02:51] <robotgeek> alex___: not ndiswrapper, i hope?
[02:52] <robotgeek> DevGet: latex?
[02:52] <jbzz> haman:    From the one page I read it appears as though the HPijs driver is appropriate for the Laserjet 4
[02:52] <DevGet> latex feels a little bit overkill, but maybe not...
[02:52] <alex___> robotgeek: no, the card found well
[02:52] <alex___> robotgeek: the problem in only when I try to connet with my card
[02:53] <tatters> is there anything like snort ubuntu supports without opening up multiverse?
[02:53] <Dasnipa`> jbzz: turboprint is a nice driver
[02:53] <robotgeek> alex___: there isn't any relation between apache + wireless, AFAIK. i've run it on my laptop successfully for ages
[02:54] <jbzz> haman:    Dasnipa:    human has a Laserjet 4    When he send text to it it form fed an awful lot of papaer.
[02:55] <hamdan> jbzz : laserjet 4 plus
[02:55] <hamdan> jbzz: not laserjet 4
[02:55] <tatters> anyone use acidlab and ubuntu?
[02:55] <Dasnipa`> hamdan, if you dont mind spending a bit of cash turboprint is among the best utils ive seen
[02:55] <jbzz> hamdan:   Ah.   Got it.   Dasnipa do you have any experience with the Laserjet 4 Plus?
[02:56] <Dasnipa`> but no, i dont have any exp with the specific printer
[02:56] <Dasnipa`> i just know that driver is exceptionally good at supporting printers
[02:56] <sweet_kate> hi
[02:57] <sweet_kate> how tdo i extract a rar archive?
[02:57] <sweet_kate> how do i extract a rar archive?
[02:57] <Dasnipa`> the linuxprinting talks about that driver quite a bit
[02:57] <sweet_kate> hi Dasnipa`
[02:57] <sweet_kate> :)
[02:57] <tatters> anyone interested in network security and use ubuntu?
[02:58] <jbzz> hamdan:   http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-LaserJet_4_Plus      <==  Take a look at this page
[02:58] <Dasnipa`> i imagine one of the archive programs supports it... did you read their manuals sweet_kate ?
[02:58] <sweet_kate> no!
[02:58] <JoeBlow> !ubotu tell me about restricted formats
[02:58] <sweet_kate> !rar
[02:58] <ubotu> it has been said that rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FileCompression
[02:58] <hamdan> jbzz : am looking now
[02:59] <ahoora> sweet_kate just search for "unofficial ubuntu" in google and go to first link
[02:59] <_jason> ahoora: that guide is outdated, help.ubuntu.com and the wiki is better
[02:59] <hamdan> jbzz : we are using the Postscript
[03:00] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.   Maybe that is where we went wrong.
[03:00] <Hoxzer> what would be good client to split vfat partition
[03:00] <superposi> \NICK superposi:personal
[03:00] <jbzz> hamdan:   Are you saying your office uses Postscript or that we are trying ti use Postscript?
[03:01] <superposi> hi at all
[03:01] <hamdan> jbzz : we r trying to use the default postscript
[03:01] <tatters> anyone any idea when ubuntu forums gunna be back up?
[03:02] <gnomefreak> tatters: today 10 am eastern us time
[03:02] <tatters> k, thnx
[03:02] <tatters> lol whats that GMT
[03:03] <gnomefreak> dont know :(
[03:03] <hamdan> too advanced for me
[03:03] <gnomefreak> !forumsdown
[03:03] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[03:03] <mtlife> if i have a raid1, and 1 disk fails.. and I add a new one, why does it take AGES (like more then 12 hours on 40 gig) to do a resync? and why is my cpu usage 100% while doing it?
[03:04] <tatters> is automatix hosted on same server I cannot download it 404 error?
[03:04] <JoeBlow> i really cant get w32 codecs to work, maybe its cause the command i try on the ubuntu wiki doesnt work
[03:04] <JoeBlow> i dunno
[03:04] <tatters> the script ^
[03:04] <robotgeek> !automatix
[03:04] <ubotu> well, automatix is messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[03:04] <gnomefreak> !automatix
[03:04] <gnomefreak> oops :(
[03:05] <tatters> hmm
[03:06] <hamdan> jbzz : i have no ideas
[03:06] <jbzz> hamdan:     For the Laserjet 4 Plus I see that our options are:   Postscript (recommended)   hpijs   lj4dith   ljet4
[03:06] <hamdan> jbzz : thats right
[03:06] <tatters> I guuess I should leave it alone then
[03:06] <gnomefreak> someone in here keeps recommending automatix because he/she had no issues but for the biggest part most people have had and will have issues with it :)
[03:06] <jbzz> hamdan:      The one fellow on the page I mentioned suggested the    ljet4 as being fast and the best choice for long text documents.
[03:07] <gnomefreak> tatters: i would say dump it and go with easyubuntu
[03:07] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell tatters about easyubuntu
[03:07] <jbzz> hamdan:   Overall qualiy was good.    Maybe you should try that.
[03:07] <jbzz> hamdan:     The problem is that it will change our modification.
[03:08] <tatters> lol, I guess he dont want to
[03:08] <theSamo> automatix's only issue is adding too much repos
[03:08] <theSamo> if you're gonna add them , why not just so it yourself instead
[03:08] <gnomefreak> tatters: he sent it to u
[03:08] <hamdan> jbzz : but why?
[03:08] <tatters> oh right, sorry didnt realise I another tab pop up
[03:09] <gnomefreak> tatters: you should have ubotus msg in your pm
[03:09] <jbzz> hamdan:     When you make a change to a setting I think it will creatre a new file, not just replace oine line.  But I might be wrong.
[03:09] <tatters> yup got it gnome thnx
[03:09] <jbzz> hamdan:   I would like to be wrong  :)
[03:09] <tatters> not used irc bfr
[03:09] <gnomefreak> yw tatters
[03:09] <hamdan> can i check with the terminal?
[03:10] <robotgeek> theSamo: not true, it also uses a --force-yes in all installation lines, i would recommend reading "man apt-get" for their veiws on that
[03:11] <gnomefreak> i have no use for automatix and never have so from a personal stand point i dont have a clue what it does ;) safer that way
[03:11] <jbzz> hamdan:   Y
[03:11] <theSamo> i didnt too, but i used it anyways
[03:11] <jbzz> hamdan:   I think I am right about that.  I bet it will re-create the file.  Thus the one line we changed would revert.
[03:12] <jbzz> hamdan:   But we are running low on alternatives.
[03:12] <JoeBlow> well, i tries running the wiki to install w32 codecs and all ig et is errors in the shell
[03:14] <Seveas> sigh, are people stell recommending crapomatix?
[03:14] <Seveas> still*
[03:15] <robotgeek> Seveas: sad, but true
[03:15] <gnomefreak> yeah i know one person that does :(
[03:15] <hamdan> jbzz : i dunno...im all dried up
[03:15] <tatters> when I read about ppl should not run as ROOT, is running Root on linux more insecure than running root in windows?
[03:15] <ilba7r> Seveas, no matter your opinion of it it has helped a lot of newbies. Di not use it and did not recommend it my self. But its existance mean there is a need for it or something like it
[03:16] <Seveas> ilba7r, nonsense. It only helps wrecking systems
[03:16] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hold on one minute.  Let me try something.
[03:16] <Seveas> that is not an opinion, it's a fact.
[03:16] <Seveas> And if there's a need to change things: file bugs so the real developers can solve things for everyone
[03:16] <Seveas> instead of boasting some scriptkiddies ego
[03:16] <ccc_> newbies are only helped by learning to do something the proper way
[03:17] <MartinMagnusson> Hi. I just installed Amarok via synaptic, but doing so conflicts with FirstClass, so I'd like to remove it again. Simply uninstalling it from synaptic doesn't help. Does synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing, so that I can remove amarok completely?
[03:17] <ilba7r> Seveas, that is my opinion. and if you wana take it further would love a chat at offtopic
[03:17] <Seveas> ccc_, not even by learning neccessarily, but by letting a script ruin their setup they'll only get pissed off :)
[03:18] <virogenesis> i prefer the ubuntuguide over automatix
[03:18] <Seveas> ilba7r, hard fact: recommending automatix will only be rewarded with a ban.
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, ubuntuguide is almost just as bad
[03:18] <tatters> speaking from a 4 day old noob perspective, it seems there is too many ways to do the same thing,its confusing when solutions are interspersed with GUI and CLI answers
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, automatix does what ubuntuguide says - automatically....
[03:18] <Lord> fuck
[03:18] <tatters> they should split up help into 2 distinct sections
[03:18] <Seveas> virogenesis, help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com are the official ubuntu documentation
[03:18] <robotgeek> Lord: language please
[03:18] <gnomefreak> tatters: do it both ways and pick what one you like better
[03:18] <virogenesis> wiki.ubuntu.com is unusable
[03:18] <robotgeek> tatters: you might prefer the Ubuntu Start Guide, Click the help button
[03:19] <ccc_> Seveas: exactly
[03:19] <Seveas> virogenesis, then there's always help.ubuntu.com
[03:19] <gnomefreak> virogenesis: give it time
[03:19] <Lord> oh sorry, im prove if the keys are good
[03:19] <ilba7r> Seveas, a ban from a volunteer work that is new. And hardly a humanit to other :)
[03:19] <jbzz> hamdan:   I created a Laserjet 4 Plus connection and selected the ljet4 driver.   I do not see the driver listed in the printers.conf file.  So it must hold the driver in another file.
[03:19] <virogenesis> even docs. gwos.org is better
[03:19] <Seveas> ilba7r, don;t go that way...
[03:19] <tatters> Bu it gets confusing and wastes days finding the right way
[03:19] <nalioth_zZz> Lord: "test" is the four letter word you should use
[03:20] <robotgeek> virogenesis: if you find something bad, comments on why it's bad is welcome.
[03:20] <Lord> tanks
[03:20] <ilba7r> Seveas, again did not recommend it and never used it. But if that is the atitude here thank take care all. bye
[03:20] <jbzz> hamdan:   I would say we are cooked unless we try a change.  So I guess we should try to use the   ljet4  driver.
[03:20] <Lord> thanks
[03:20] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[03:21] <Seveas> ilba7r, the attitude here is very hard against automatix and other crap like it since it costs us countless hours of helping people repair the damage it does
[03:21] <Seveas> ah, too late
[03:21] <virogenesis> robot a guide to getting pure ftpd to work with mysql 4.1 would be good :P
[03:21] <Seveas> well, let it be a warning to everyone then :)
[03:21] <jbzz> hamdan:   Probably try changing the driver in the printer we already made.
[03:21] <hamdan> jbzz : i've tried the ljet4 driver still not happening
[03:21] <virogenesis> robotgeek,
[03:21] <virogenesis> :)
[03:21] <Seveas> virogenesis, that's not too difficult
[03:21] <tatters> for example enabling wpa on a default ubuntu install, there is some editing of the interfaces.conf file now thats plain txt
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well the file might need modified again.  Take a look at it.    cd  /etc/cups
[03:22] <virogenesis> seveas doesn't it involve patching pure-ftpd?
[03:22] <cafuego> !dstats
[03:22] <ubotu> Ubuntu Distro Stats on breezy... 18267 packages, 1641 maintainers, 36109 MB installed size, 11215 MB compressed size.
[03:22] <Seveas> tatters, wpa is not officially supported yet, and lots of work is being done to make it easier
[03:22] <robotgeek> virogenesis: hmm, let me see if the wiki has anything on it
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   then:    cat  printers.conf
[03:22] <Cyorxamp> Hey, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:22] <tatters> now surely it should be encrytped
[03:22] <Seveas> virogenesis, you need: pure-ftpd-mysql - Pure-FTPd FTP server with MySQL user authentication
[03:22] <jbzz> hamdan:   Look for the line having to do with     smb://
[03:23] <virogenesis> Seveas,  does pure-ftpd-mysql support 4.1 out of the box thats the thing
[03:23] <hamdan> at: printers.conf: Permission denied
[03:23] <JoeBlow> somehow my trash icon got deleted does anyonekno whwo to get it back, its not in the add panels menu
[03:23] <Lord> Why i download music from the net with linux??
[03:23] <hamdan> cat: printers.conf: Permission denied
[03:23] <Cyorxamp> does anyone know?
[03:23] <Lord> why i can
[03:23] <mwe> hamdan: sudo cat
[03:23] <gnomefreak> you have to sudo to use cat?
[03:23] <jbzz> hamdan:   in that directory:   sudo cat printers.conf
[03:23] <mwe> gnomefreak: for printer.conf yes
[03:24] <mwe> gnomefreak: it's owned by cupsys with perms 600
[03:24] <Seveas> virogenesis, it uses libmysqlclient10
[03:24] <gnomefreak> ahhhh ok
[03:24] <MartinMagnusson> Does synaptic produce a log file where I can see all that was done when installing things?
[03:24] <tristan> JoeBlow : it IS in the add panels menu
[03:24] <Cyorxamp> Hi, I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:24] <JoeBlow> tristan, well i couldnt find it
[03:24] <Lord> i dont know what use to find or download music with linux from internet
[03:25] <hamdan> smb://  line not there
[03:25] <Seveas> virogenesis, but that should work with 4.1
[03:25] <Morfosomo> MartinMagnusson, you can select an installed app in sinaptic and do right click-properties and select installed files
[03:25] <tristan> JoeBlow : it is in the subsection Desktop and Windows when you've clicked right on the panel and choose add to panel
[03:25] <virogenesis> ok i'll try getting them to talk :)
[03:25] <tatters> I cannot find any snort mysql acidlab guides for Ubuntu, is there anything other than this? or is a debian guide I found going to be the closest to an ubuntu installation, or will there be differences and wont work?
[03:26] <deFrysk> Lord, for binarie downloads from newsgroups you can use pan
[03:26] <virogenesis> lord: apt-get install nicotine
[03:26] <mwe> Lord: you shouldn't download music. but dc-gui or azareus or any p2p app would let you do it
[03:26] <Morfosomo> ubuntu is based on debian,.. it should do the trick
[03:26] <virogenesis> :)
[03:26] <deFrysk> Lord, p2p you can use aMule or bittorrent
[03:26] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well that would explain why nothing printed.
[03:26] <Cyorxamp> anyone know about my display problem?
[03:26] <Cyorxamp> I feel like I am talking to myself here
[03:26] <virogenesis> nicotine is thw way to go for music
[03:26] <deFrysk> !anyone
[03:26] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and YOU decide? <hint>
[03:27] <virogenesis> lol
[03:27] <jbzz> hamdan:     Kind of hard to deal with situations like this.
[03:27] <Cyorxamp> look I have already asked the REAL question TWICE
[03:27] <Cyorxamp> and it was ignored
[03:27] <Seveas> !anyone =~ s/You decide/find out/
[03:27] <ubotu> OK, Seveas
[03:27] <hamdan> jbzz : i really appreciate it tho'
[03:27] <mwe> Cyorxamp: please be patient.
[03:27] <hamdan> jbzz : maybe we can try again ?
[03:27] <frazmanw> which instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages
[03:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   I am trying to think of the easiest way to go about this.
[03:28] <Zandaa> hi peoples....
[03:28] <drummer87> does anyone here know what module i need for my nforce3 mobo to get onboard sound working?
[03:28] <robotgeek> virogenesis: i was not able to find anything relevant, maybe you can write one :)
[03:28] <Zandaa> I can officially say... I hate Microsoft
[03:28] <Seveas> hi Zandaa
[03:28] <hamdan> jbzz : ure a good man/gal/robot
[03:28] <Zandaa> seveas, guess what happend?
[03:28] <Cyorxamp> it just narks me that some goon who wants to 'download da music' gets advise but a real problem goes IGNORED
[03:28] <Seveas> Zandaa, hehe, how come?
[03:28] <jbzz> hamdan:   bot
[03:28] <hamdan> jbzz : lol
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, I added an extra stick of RAM to my hardware and windows started nagging that my hardware setup was alterated...
[03:29] <hamdan> i hate bill gates too!!
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, thus forcing me to re-activate it
[03:29] <mwe> Cyorxamp: maybe nobody knows right now
[03:29] <virogenesis> robotgeek,  i wasn't able to find one myself thats why i mentioned it all i found was a patch sometime ago
[03:29] <Seveas> Zandaa, lol
[03:29] <jbzz> hamdan:   Did you write down the line you entered last?   The best version you had?
[03:29] <Cyorxamp> I just installed ubuntu and I use 2 monitors from one ghpx card - one is displaying 1280x1024 ok but the other is 'zoomed in' and you move the mouse to look around - how can I get around that?
[03:29] <Zandaa> seveas, if it was me I'd have fully switched to ubuntu
[03:29] <hamdan> jbzz : no i didnt
[03:29] <Seveas> Cyorxamp, edit xorg.conf and make sure the 2nd monitor gets a different resolution...
[03:30] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, ubuntu thinks I only have one monitor I think - it beleives the res is 1280x1024
[03:30] <gnomefreak> there is only 2 things that windows does that is much harder to do in linux :(
[03:30] <Cyorxamp> but the problematic monitor only shows 640x480 at any one time
[03:30] <frazmanw> which instructions shoulf I use to get E17? I see many varying pages
[03:30] <CarinArr> hey, is there any way to find out what processes take up memory?
[03:30] <Lord> thanks defrysk
[03:30] <mwe> gnomefreak: what are those :)
[03:30] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK it was something like:    smb://peter:secret@obter5/obter5/Printer6
[03:30] <Seveas> Cyorxamp, then you'll have to teach ubuntu by editing xorg.conf
[03:31] <JoeBlow> is their a way to empty trash through shell?
[03:31] <virogenesis> robotgeek, how about a guide to ripping dvds with acidrip?
[03:31] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, in what way?
[03:31] <jbzz> hamdan:   That should point you in the right direction
[03:31] <deFrysk> Lord, also nicotie was suggested witch is also a nice p2p client
[03:31] <_jason> JoeBlow: rm ~/.Trash/*
[03:31] <virogenesis> i reckon i could do that :)
[03:31] <deFrysk> nicotine
[03:31] <robotgeek> virogenesis: i don't own a dvd writer, so i havent even looked
[03:31] <gnomefreak> mwe: ipod crap and charge for crap :)
[03:32] <hamdan> jbzz : yeah
[03:32] <mwe> gnomefreak: heh.
[03:32] <hamdan> jbzz : shud i open notepad?
[03:32] <virogenesis> i'll do one... robotgeek  i ripped a dvd perfectly the otherday was ace
[03:32] <CarinArr> i have three terminals open atm, and according to free, they take up 300MB of ram.. which sounds excessive;)
[03:32] <jbzz> hamdan:     Well here is where we run into the permission thing again.
[03:32] <Lord> The Gimp for design is too basic, but exist othe program to  design mayor and more complete???
[03:32] <CarinArr> i mean i'm running fluxbox so that shouldn't take up too much
[03:33] <Cyorxamp> How does the xorg.conf need editing?
[03:33] <robotgeek> virogenesis: all you need to do is document what you do, and ppl will add to it :)
[03:33] <jbzz> hamdan:   if   mwe   is around maybe he has a simpler way to modify that file.
[03:33] <newuser> I see that i have nautilus-cd-burner installed, how can I access it? It is not in my Applications list.
[03:33] <JoeBlow> this is so redicioulous, i had an old linux harddrive, and so i just deleted all the folder for it, and now it wont let me empty them, through terminal it tells me cannot delete directories, or it will tell me i dont have premission through gnome
[03:33] <virogenesis> ok then robotgeek  cheers mate
[03:33] <hamdan> mwe : ?
[03:33] <mwe> gnomefreak: Yesterday someone was trying to teach me how superior windows is at everything, and that linux is a toy OS where everything is hard and you don't get your work done :)
[03:33] <Cyorxamp> mwe you there?
[03:33] <Lord> I design characteres for cellphone games and i need athe best program for linux to design
[03:33] <topyli> Lord: gimp is not what i'd call "basic". what sort of design are you talking about?
[03:33] <mwe> hamdan: what?
[03:34] <gnomefreak> lol mwe i find most things are easier in linux than winblows
[03:34] <hamdan> mwe : simpler way to get my printer to work
[03:34] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know if the drivers don't work
[03:34] <gnomefreak> tuxpaint= basic
[03:34] <jbzz> mwe:  actually a simpler way to modify the printers.conf file
[03:34] <virogenesis> lord if you do vector try inkscape its pretty good
[03:34] <JoeBlow> can somone help me empty my trash
[03:34] <Lord> but gimp is not who photoshop
[03:34] <gnomefreak> the gimp is advanced if anything
[03:34] <virogenesis> lord...gimpshop
[03:34] <topyli> Lord: what exactly is the gimp lacking?
[03:35] <mwe> jbzz: hamdan just sudo nano /etc/cups/printers.conf in a terminal
[03:35] <_jason> JoeBlow: I told you, rm -r ~/.Trash/*
[03:35] <Lord> gimp image editor
[03:35] <mwe> jbzz: hamdan or gksudo gedit /etc/cups/printers.conf if you prefer gedit
[03:35] <gnomefreak> topyli: ease of use :)
[03:35] <JoeBlow> _jason, it tells me cannot delete directories
[03:35] <Seveaz> argh@my provider
[03:35] <_jason> JoeBlow: try the new one, with -r
[03:35] <deFrysk> rm -rf
[03:35] <topyli> gnomefreak: true enough :)
[03:35] <mwesto> hi all are there frensh here?
[03:35] <mwe> !fr
[03:35] <ubotu> Va a #ubuntu-fr ou #kubuntu-fr pour aide et discussion en francais
[03:35] <Lord> but can i patch photoshop for run in linux???
[03:35] <mwe> Lord: no
[03:36] <jbzz> mwe:  I am not familiar with that editor    I use vi   and I use it as root   this is rough to work him through the modification.
[03:36] <mwesto> ok thx!
[03:36] <JoeBlow> _jason, didnt give me an error msg, but the things are still in their
[03:36] <pappan> mwe: does wine help
[03:36] <Lord> or patch painshop pro???
[03:36] <mwe> Lord: if you have a lot of patience maybe you can get version 7 to work in wine
[03:36] <hamdan> mwe : done that in terminal .. now what?
[03:36] <CarinArr> well according to free something is using 300MB out of my memory
[03:36] <CarinArr> er
[03:36] <CarinArr> wrong window
[03:36] <mwe> Lord: I'm running it in vmware but it's not free
[03:36] <Lord> version 7 of THE GIMP???
[03:36] <pappan> CarinArr: use top
[03:36] <hamdan> mwe : only two lines
[03:36] <X-rayWD> hello people, I've got a Ubuntu problem
[03:37] <Cyorxamp> something tells me I should switch to Mandriva
[03:37] <X-rayWD> lol
[03:37] <JoeBlow> X-rayWD, cant load harddrives?
[03:37] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well guess we can try what we did before since it worked.
[03:37] <topyli> Lord: just learn to use the gimp. it will take less time than messing with windows apps on linux
[03:37] <Cyorxamp> this thing can even use a monitor properly out of the box
[03:37] <_jason> JoeBlow: what things?  maybe you need to do Trash/.* as well
[03:37] <CarinArr> pappan, yeah top says only 5.7% is in use tho.. and 300MB is a lot more than 5.7%
[03:37] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know what you wanna change in the file. isn't the printer wizard letting you choose the driver you need?
[03:37] <jbzz> hamdan:   Are you in the directory    /etc/cups   ?
[03:37] <CarinArr> i'm just wondering cause my machine feels very sluggish all of a sudden
[03:37] <X-rayWD> no, there is a Fatal Error: No Screen Found... and yet, I can see this in windows :X
[03:37] <gnomefreak> the gimp is on version 2.x not anything near 7
[03:37] <Lord> whoa
[03:37] <deFrysk> Lord, sudo apt-get install grokking-the-gimp
[03:37] <hamdan> mwe : been thru the printer wizard..dont work..
[03:38] <JoeBlow> _jason, i type that in exactly like u said right?
[03:38] <virogenesis> lord if you really need photoshop crossover office will allow you to use it
[03:38] <JoeBlow> _jason, all the files are still in their
[03:38] <gnomefreak> deFrysk: whats that?
[03:38] <mwe> hamdan: I don't know why. is it a local or remote printer?
[03:38] <Cyorxamp> Are there any other ubuntu support channels?
[03:38] <deFrysk> gnomefreak, GIMP tutorial book by Carey Bunks (HTML)
[03:38] <_jason> JoeBlow: ls ~/.Trash, are things in there?
[03:38] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hey, maybe we should just delete that printer and start over with a better copy of printers.conf
[03:38] <akairos> hello guys can i ask some UBUNTU question?????????????????
[03:38] <X-rayWD> someone with experience wants to go one on one chat because reading this gives me headaches :S
[03:38] <topyli> CarinArr: maybe something is leaking memor and your machine is swapping. check with free
[03:38] <Lord> to install linux in windows, can i install the two plataforms in one pc???
[03:38] <gnomefreak> oh ty ty ty
[03:38] <hamdan> jbzz: ok
[03:39] <Lord> I need a partition or not??
[03:39] <Seveaz> akairos, not if you keep using that many question marks...
[03:39] <JoeBlow> _jason, yea, it shows some of the folders, but not near all the ones in the trash icon
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> akairos, youll be lucky if they even read what you put in here
[03:39] <akairos> what to do then?
[03:39] <kitty_> Can someone tell me how to convert Ogg to Mp3...?
[03:39] <CarinArr> topyli, heh, i did check with free, it says 300MB is in use
[03:39] <topyli> Lord: yes you can dual boot and choose your system at every boot
[03:39] <_jason> JoeBlow: erm maybe there is another trash I don't know about
[03:39] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, act normal...
[03:39] <trappist> CarinArr: ogg2mp3
[03:39] <hamdan> jbzz: lets star over
[03:39] <X-rayWD> JOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, thats quite a statement
[03:39] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, if no one can help you it doesn't mean no one wants to
[03:39] <topyli> CarinArr: 300M of swap?
[03:39] <jbzz> hamdan:   hamdan:   Yes.   Delete the old one and create a new printer.
[03:39] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, nonsense
[03:40] <CarinArr> topyli, no, 300MB of memory, only 1000 of swap
[03:40] <Seveaz> akairos, just ask, don't pay attention to Cyorxamp
[03:40] <trappist> CarinArr: oh.  oops.  yes :)
[03:40] <X-rayWD> JOIN #problem if you know how to help someone with an Xserver problem
[03:40] <hamdan> jbzz: done
[03:40] <Seveaz> X-rayWD, just ask in here and stop repeating...
[03:40] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, you have told me to edit the xorg.cong file - without even saying how
[03:40] <jbzz> hamdan:   Did you choose the ljet4 driver?
[03:40] <Lord> someone tell me what linux auto search a place in the disc for installing
[03:40] <arrinmurr> Lord: http://appdb.winehq.org/appview.php?versionId=2631 - there's some kind of howto to get photoshop (cs2) to run on wine
[03:40] <kitty_> Can someone tell me how to convert Ogg to Mp3...?
[03:41] <trappist> X-rayWD: doesn't work that way.  nobody knows if they can solve it until you tell us what the problem is, whereupon we will try to solve it here so everyone can benefit.
[03:41] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, I guess my answer didn't reach you before my provider cut me of, hold on
[03:41] <hamdan> jbzz : yes i did
[03:41] <mwe> kitty_: someone told you
[03:41] <X-rayWD> "Fatal Error - No screen found
[03:41] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, I have the file up - but I dunno what bit needs changing
[03:41] <akairos> so... i try to install the UBUNTU 5.10 but it allways gets stuck on the partitioner
[03:41] <JoeBlow> _jason, it even goes to say /home/brian/.trash directory doesnt exist
[03:41] <trappist> X-rayWD: nvidia card?
[03:41] <akairos> ...
[03:41] <kitty_> well can someone tell me again.. plaese
[03:41] <Seveaz> X-rayWD, complete /var/log/Xorg.0.log on the pastebin please
[03:41] <Lord> ohhh tanks
[03:41] <X-rayWD> nvidea
[03:41] <Cyorxamp> can't we talk in PM Seveas? less crowded?
[03:41] <deFrysk> kitty_, sudo apt-get install sound-converter
[03:41] <mwe> kitty_: I think sox can do it
[03:41] <_jason> JoeBlow: capital T
[03:41] <deFrysk> kitty_, it does it all
[03:41] <topyli> CarinArr: well, 300M out of 512m is in use on this box too, and everything is fine
[03:42] <X-rayWD> I've got nVidea yeah is this the problem
[03:42] <trappist> kitty_: there's a program called ogg2mp3, but it doesn't look like ubuntu has it.
[03:42] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.  Then we need to modify that one line again.
[03:42] <Lord> i need to design the Aeon flux official game to cellphone
[03:42] <deFrysk> !soundconverter
[03:42] <ubotu> deFrysk: I'm not sure, is it larger than a breadbox?
[03:42] <JoeBlow> _jason, ok
[03:42] <CarinArr> topyli, yeah but is that with only the window manager and terminal windows running?
[03:42] <pappan> CarinArr: what does /proc/meminfo says
[03:42] <deFrysk> !info soundconverter
[03:42] <fredrich> Whats up with ubuntuforums.org
[03:42] <ubotu> soundconverter: (simple sound converter application for GNOME), section universe/sound, is optional. Version: 0.8.0-0ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 28 kB, Installed size: 208 kB
[03:42] <Seveaz> !forumsdown
[03:42] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[03:42] <Lord> thaks
[03:42] <JoeBlow> _jason, oh i wasnt copying i was just typing close to what it says
[03:42] <fredrich> Thanks
[03:42] <kitty_> trappist: i cant find it.. wot do i do?
[03:42] <mwe> kitty_: sox foo.ogg foo.mp3 I believe
[03:42] <pappan> CarinArr: does that give some mor info ?
[03:42] <deFrysk> kitty_, use soundconverter
[03:43] <JoeBlow> _jason, ok that got most of it, but i deleted a root partition manually, and it left all the folders in their and wont remove them, or even see them through terminal
[03:43] <trappist> kitty_: here's a perl script that does it: http://marginalhacks.com/bin/ogg2mp3
[03:43] <Seveaz> 15:31:44 <Seveas>   Cyorxamp, unfortunately, I wouldn't know - I didn't manage the voodoo of writing xorg configurations yet. Google may be able to help if no one in here steps up
[03:43] <deFrysk> kitty_, it conversts various types
[03:43] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hang on one.
[03:43] <CarinArr> pappan, not really
[03:43] <topyli> kitty_: don't lose your ogg files though. converting from one lossy format to another does bad things to sound quality
[03:43] <jbzz> hamdan:       Let me think about this.
[03:43] <hamdan> jbzz : ok
[03:43] <Cyorxamp> interstellar help there
[03:43] <CarinArr> if something is leaking memory would that be cleared when that application is terminated?
[03:43] <deFrysk> kitty_, do you hear me ?
[03:43] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, as I said, I'd love to help if I knew how to
[03:44] <Seveaz> don't think that people in here don't want to help
[03:44] <n00b> how do i make a slackware DVD from the CDs?
[03:44] <topyli> CarinArr: yes
[03:44] <Cyorxamp> why on earth can't ubuntu just use a monitor properly!?
[03:44] <Cyorxamp> I mean come on!
[03:44] <fredrich> Btw; Anyone know if it's possible to use a laptop to output stuff from ones desktop computer over tcp/ip? Like if i want to run top or tail messages onto my laptop while working on my desktop?
[03:44] <pappan> CarinArr: yes i guess it should be
[03:44] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, ranting in here won't help...
[03:44] <X-rayWD> Cyorxamp: I got the same issue
[03:44] <CarinArr> cyorxamp, sounds like the problem is with your grahics driver not ubuntu itself
[03:44] <trappist> Cyorxamp: does the word 'virtual' appear anywhere in your xorg.conf?
[03:44] <Cyorxamp> look how a rant gets the attention?
[03:44] <Lord> bye, a lots of greethings, sorry for the faults to write, i am chilean
[03:44] <CarinArr> might be the software i'm betatesting then
[03:44] <Cyorxamp> lol
[03:44] <MrRio> anyone know of any wget gui's (for any platform)
[03:44] <MrRio> ?
[03:45] <topyli> MrRio: gwget for gnome
[03:45] <jbzz> hamdan:   Lets try what awe suggested.  It might shorten this process.   In the terminal window    ...
[03:45] <newuser> looking to burn cd's, and iso's how do I?
[03:45] <Cyorxamp> trappist, no 'virtual'
[03:45] <Seveaz> MrRio, gwget or gwget2
[03:45] <trappist> Cyorxamp: what card?
[03:45] <pappan> CarinArr: i guess you can look at /proc for that process which may give some clue
[03:45] <mwe> newuser: in k3b it's easy
[03:45] <Cyorxamp> ATI Radeon 9500
[03:45] <topyli> newuser: in gnome, you can do it in the file manager
[03:45] <ccc_> MrRio: kget for kde
[03:45] <pixelfairy> trying the java thing from RestrictedFormats,and fakroot make-jpkg is giving alot of premission errors
[03:45] <jbzz> hamdan:      type:       sudo  nano  profile.conf                just like that   then enter your password
[03:45] <trappist> Cyorxamp: how was your xorg.conf generated?
[03:45] <pixelfairy> is that normal?
[03:45] <CarinArr> cyorxamp, is this using an nvidia card, and have you recently upgraded the kernel?
[03:45] <Lord> there is a latin man or latin chic in this server????
[03:46] <Seveaz> Lord, ?
[03:46] <X-rayWD> trappist: nVidia
[03:46] <Cyorxamp> one of my monitors displays 1280x1024 ok  and the other only displays 640x480 at any one time
[03:46] <Cyorxamp> trappist, sez its by dexconf
[03:46] <MrRio> ccc_, cheers
[03:46] <Seveaz> Lord, this is a support channel, for general chatter you'd better move to a more appropriate channel
[03:46] <trappist> X-rayWD: sounds like you need to install the nvidia drivers
[03:46] <hamdan> done
[03:46] <MrRio> Seveas, oh and you :)
[03:46] <Lord> to speak spanish, i am a garbage speaking english
[03:46] <trappist> Cyorxamp: are you using ati's proprietary drivers (fglrx)?
[03:46] <Cyorxamp> Seveas, I agree
[03:46] <CarinArr> i couldn't get the packaged nvidia drivers working with the 12-10 kernel, had to get the ones from nvidia
[03:46] <Seveaz> Lord, #ubuntu-es
[03:46] <Cyorxamp> no, ubuntu just installed
[03:47] <CarinArr> gave me the same error as you lot are having
[03:47] <Lord> ahhhh thanks again
[03:47] <jbzz> hamdan:   That should place you in an editor called   'nano'
[03:47] <Cyorxamp> couldn't this support channel be split up into sections? (just a thought) for different areas of support
[03:47] <X-rayWD> trappist: they are present in device list... are there special driver installs for ubuntu or linux?
[03:47] <trappist> Cyorxamp: if you have your extra repositories setup (restricted, universe, multiverse...) sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx and run fglrxconfig
[03:47] <hamdan> jbzz : nano 1.3.8
[03:47] <Cyorxamp> trappist, bleh!?
[03:47] <Seveaz> Cyorxamp, wouldn't help :)
[03:47] <setuid> Anyone know how to get the latest KDE into Breezy? 3.4.3 seems to be the latest.
[03:47] <hamdan> jbzz : file : profile.conf
[03:48] <akairos> hmm...seems i nee to ask again
[03:48] <trappist> X-rayWD: there are special drivers from nvidia - I think there are ubuntu packages (maybe xorg-driver-nvidia) but I use the ones from nvidia.com
[03:48] <akairos> ...
[03:48] <mwe> setuid: yes
[03:48] <Cyorxamp> watches as trappist's word fly past his head
[03:48] <jbzz> hamdan:   I don't use that editor but I can see how it can be used.   Now modify the line that needs changed.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> Cyorxamp: thats not possible if you have 3 things that may cause same issue you would be bouncing people around
[03:48] <X-rayWD> trappist: thanx I'll check it out!
[03:48] <trappist> Cyorxamp: lemme try again.  first, listen to the bot...
[03:48] <mwe> setuid: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[03:48] <ccc_> setuid: check kubuntu.org for the repositorys
[03:48] <trappist> !tell Cyorxamp about repos
[03:48] <mwe> setuid: add the to your sources.list
[03:48] <newuser> mwe & topyli: I guess I was looking to open a gui. Still trying to get the feel of ubuntu.
[03:48] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell setuid about easysources
[03:48] <trappist> Cyorxamp: follow those instructions, then 'sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx'
[03:49] <Cyorxamp> what is it supposed to do?
[03:49] <hamdan> jbzz : hamdan:      type:       sudo  nano  profile.conf                just like that   then enter your password
[03:49] <pixelfairy> !easysources
[03:49] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, pixelfairy
[03:49] <Lord> thaks, now i find the spanish server, chao.
[03:49] <mwe> newuser: yes. k3b is a gui application
[03:49] <Seveaz> !easysource
[03:49] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[03:49] <akairos> so... i try to install the UBUNTU 5.10 but it allways gets stuck on the partitioner
[03:49] <pixelfairy> ubotu tell pixelfairy about easysources
[03:49] <gnomefreak> its !easy source
[03:49] <hamdan> jbzz: should that be printers.conf or profile.confi?
[03:49] <trappist> Cyorxamp: you'll then be using drivers that support all your card's nifty features and have access to a config tool that will set you right up with your dual screen goodness
[03:49] <deFrysk> setuid, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php read it
[03:49] <gnomefreak> no space
[03:49] <jbzz> hamdan:     printers.conf
[03:50] <mwe> pixelfairy: easysource
[03:50] <Cyorxamp> trappist, can you go over this in PM
[03:50] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell pixelfairy about easysource
[03:50] <trappist> ok
[03:50] <Cyorxamp> this channel just freaks me out
[03:50] <gnomefreak> there better?
[03:50] <jbzz> hamdan:   I must be sleeping.
[03:50] <Cyorxamp> too much chatter and im stuck on 640x480
[03:50] <jbzz> hamdan:      Make the changes but do not try to save until I discuss it with you first.
[03:51] <jariep1_> hello
[03:51] <akairos> Oi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:51] <Seveas> hi jariep1_
[03:51] <jariep1_> hi Seveas
[03:51] <hamdan> jbzz : something is wrong
[03:51] <jbzz> hamdan:     Explain.
[03:51] <hamdan> jbzz : in printers.conf there are no lines!!?
[03:52] <tatters> ive added update and security update in repositries and installed all updates. now when I add universe to download acidlab it says it will remove certian items,does it know what itsw doing or does it expect me to know what to do to repair whatever it breaks?
[03:52] <smoser> anybody have suggestions for a well supported PCI 80211G card?
[03:52] <akairos> guys
[03:52] <jbzz> hamdan:     I am going to guess you are not in the correct directory.
[03:52] <X-rayWD> trappist: how can you install a linux driver in windows? cant download it and use it in linux (only command line available
[03:52] <akairos> can some1 explain to me, why yhe installer gets stux
[03:52] <hamdan> jbzz : maybe ure right
[03:52] <mwe> tatters: paste sources.list to pastebin.com please
[03:53] <jbzz> hamdan:   So you are not picking up an existing file.  You are creating a new file.
[03:53] <mwe> smoser: any prism or prism2 based card should be good
[03:53] <jariep1_> is anybody having difficulty reaching ubuntuforums.org ?
[03:53] <trappist> X-rayWD: you can't.
[03:53] <jbzz> hamdan:   Hold the control key down and press the    x     key to close that session.
[03:53] <hamdan> jbzz : i neeed to pick up an existing file..what is the comd for that?
[03:53] <smoser> mwe, running through wlanng?
[03:53] <mwe> smoser: what?
[03:53] <tatters> sorry mwe I am new to this, how do I this ?
[03:54] <mwe> tatters: go to the webpage and paste
[03:54] <Seveas> !tell jariep1_ about forumsdown
[03:54] <jbzz> hamdan:      Exit out by pressing     Ctrl   the   x
[03:54] <akairos> oh man!
[03:54] <akairos> im talking for an hour!
[03:54] <akairos> Oi!
[03:54] <hamdan> ok done
[03:54] <mwe> tatters: once you go there it's obvious what to do
[03:54] <Seveas> akairos, it gets stuck because it cannot go further
[03:54] <akairos> thanx man
[03:54] <akairos> ...
[03:55] <Seveas> akairos, and unless you can give more information about your system we can't give an answer that sucks less
[03:55] <jariep1_> Seveas, Thanks for the info
[03:55] <gnomefreak> heres an idea instead of asking whats with the forums how about asking you question in here?
[03:55] <jbzz> hamdan:     Hold the   Ctrl   key down then press     x
[03:55] <X-rayWD> crap... I can't :(
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> trappist, you there?
[03:56] <mwe> X-rayWD: well ndiswrapper let
[03:56] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[03:56] <Cyorxamp> trappist, I just get... E: Could not get lock /var/lib/apt/lists/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily un
[03:56] <trappist> Cyorxamp: yep
[03:56] <hamdan> jbzz : at hamdan@etsb03:~$ now
[03:56] <mwe> X-rayWD: use windows wifi drivers
[03:56] <X-rayWD> trappist: I just found out I have an ATI card, sorry... anyone experienced with this?
[03:56] <trappist> Cyorxamp: make sure a) you used 'sudo' and b) nothing like synaptic is currently running
[03:56] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK.   Now type   cd   /etc/cups
[03:57] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[03:57] <trappist> X-rayWD: sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx
[03:57] <Cyorxamp> trappist, yeah I typed what you put, sudo being the command - what the hell is a synaptic?
[03:57] <jbzz> hamdan:      now :      sudo  nano  printers.conf
[03:57] <gnomefreak> !synaptic
[03:57] <tatters> ok mwe ive got the webpage up where Do I find source list?
[03:57] <ubotu> from memory, synaptic is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SynapticHowto
[03:57] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[03:57] <trappist> Cyorxamp: a frontend for installing software.  if that or anything like it is running, you won't be able to install stuff.
[03:57] <hamdan> jbzz : this looks more like it
[03:57] <mwe> tatters: /etc/apt/sources.list
[03:58] <tatters> k
[03:58] <Cyorxamp> trappist, is it this thing in the top right that deals with updates?
[03:58] <X-rayWD> thanx guys, I'll check this out...
[03:58] <X-rayWD> bb
[03:58] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK.   Make the change you need to make then let me know when you have finished.  But do not exit out of nano.
[03:58] <penguinzdr> what's this database optimisation of the forums?
[03:58] <gnomefreak> updater also uses apt
[03:58] <trappist> Cyorxamp: that's possible.  I almost know what you're talking about, but I don't use gnome so I'm not sure
[03:59] <gnomefreak> trappist: i think he means the update-notifier
[03:59] <Cyorxamp> trappist, all I have open is firefox, the xorg.conf text file (unedited), terminal and x-chat
[03:59] <trappist> gnomefreak: will that interfere with apt-get?
[03:59] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[03:59] <Cyorxamp> i selected all those universe and multiverse things
[04:00] <gnomefreak> trappist: it uses apt iirc
[04:00] <hamdan> DeviceURI smb://hamdan:xxxx@ETSB04/ETSB04/Printer6
[04:00] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[04:00] <gnomefreak> synaptic,apt and updater all use apt
[04:00] <Cyorxamp> ok nm its working now
[04:00] <gnomefreak> grrrrrrrrrr i hate gmail
[04:00] <Cyorxamp> synaptic was loading - couldnt tell it was closed due to the awkward res
[04:00] <Cyorxamp> *loaded
[04:00] <mwe> gnomefreak: I think you can use apt-get while the updater is in the tray though, if it's not currently updating
[04:01] <jbzz> hamdan:   OK     Now to save that hold the    Ctrl   key down and hit the letter    o       key   (the letter o as in oscar)
[04:01] <Cyorxamp> trappist, sez its got 13% of the thing
[04:01] <newuser> gnomefreak: whats the problem with gmail?
[04:01] <trappist> Cyorxamp: cool
[04:01] <gnomefreak> mwe: yes if its not running
[04:01] <tatters> mwe ive copy n pasted the sources.list into the form do I put tatters as name and click send?
[04:01] <hamdan> jbzz : done
[04:01] <gnomefreak> newuser: it wont get past the log-in screen :(
[04:01] <mwe> tatters: yeah. then post the url here
[04:02] <jbzz> hamdan:     So you are back to the terminal window againa?
[04:02] <hamdan> File Name to Write: printers.conf
[04:02] <jbzz> hamdan:      Choose yes.
[04:02] <tatters> http://pastebin.com/519070
[04:02] <jbzz> hamdan:      Hit   Enter
[04:03] <hamdan> jbzz: hit enter now back to printers.conf
[04:03] <hamdan> jbzz: adjustments made
[04:03] <jbzz> hamdan:     Super.   That saved time.
[04:03] <gnomefreak> firefox is broken now :(
[04:03] <jbzz> hamdan:     I guess it is time to try to print.
[04:04] <hamdan> jbzz : should i exit nano?
[04:04] <mwe> tatters: I'd put a # in front of the cd line. that disables it
[04:04] <mwe> tatters: let me post and updated sources.list for you
[04:04] <Kyler> I'm trying to help a couple install Ubuntu on a new machine.  Unfortunately that machine has NVidia hardware and requires "nvnet".  I can't install the NVidia driver (using Knoppix) because the installer removes the nvnet module when it's run.  Is there an Ubuntu package with nvnet.ko?
[04:04] <jbzz> hamdan:      Yes  exit nano.   I thought you had already .
[04:04] <Cyorxamp> trappist, what do I do after this? restart the kernel?
[04:04] <bluesign> anyone have any idea about "PCI: cannot allocate mem resource" warning?
[04:04] <tatters> k, so that stops it searching CD for packages?
[04:04] <jbzz> hamdan:     It did save the changes right?
[04:04] <hamdan> jbzz :ctrl x was it?
[04:04] <trappist> Cyorxamp: 'sudo fglrxconfig'
[04:05] <hamdan> jbzz : yes it did
[04:05] <jbzz> hamdan:     OK...   yes    Ctrl    then    x
[04:05] <fredrich> who do i contact if i want to contribute with a tested laptop to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportMachinesLaptopsAcer
[04:05] <fredrich> ?
[04:05] <mjb> hi all
[04:05] <Cyorxamp> trappist, it's gone evil its asking about serial ports, ps/2 ports and stuff
[04:05] <mjb> I'm having a problem with ubuntu 6.04, updated today
[04:05] <jbzz> hamdan:   I never used that editor before.  Crude but effective.
[04:06] <mjb> for some reason I cannot start X as a normal user from the console anymore, it works fine when I start it as root though
[04:06] <mwe> tatters: back up your current sources.list. then use this http://pastebin.com/519078. then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:06] <jbzz> hamdan:     Now you should be back to the 'terminal' session window.
[04:06] <trappist> Cyorxamp: you can just take the default on almost all the questions it asks
[04:06] <gnomefreak> mjb: you do know that dapper is gonna have issues for a few more months right?
[04:06] <sskk> Isn't the apache2 server supposed to startup when I run "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" - it's not (no errors). Only when I run "sudo apache2ctl start" apache2 will start. Cant find any obvious mistakes in /etc/init.d/apache2 . Any clue at all would be much appreciated.
[04:06] <hamdan> jbzz : yes sir
[04:06] <trappist> Cyorxamp: just pay attention when it gets to the multiple display stuff
[04:07] <trappist> Cyorxamp: to take the default just hit enter
[04:07] <jbzz> hamdan:   Try to print something and cross your fingers.
[04:07] <mjb> gnomefreak: no I didn't know that. so I guess there is no workaround as of now
[04:07] <mjb> at least I don't waste my time on it, thanks
[04:07] <gnomefreak> !dapper
[04:07] <ubotu> dapper is probably The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[04:08] <gnomefreak> mjb: go with ubuntu5.10 it is stable
[04:09] <fredrich> is there any swedish ubuntu chans?
[04:09] <mjb> gnomefreak: thanks but where would be the fun in that
[04:09] <ccc_> fredrich: #ubuntu.se
[04:09] <fredrich> thanks matey
[04:09] <rseeber> hello
[04:09] <gnomefreak> mjb: a broken system that is unusable is not my idea of fun
[04:10] <mjb> it's perfectly usable expect for X as a user
[04:10] <hamdan> jbzz : printer idle
[04:10] <mjb> they hardly change anything at mutt, irssi, etc. so I don't have a real problem
[04:10] <rseeber> what are some ways to speed up my boot time for unbuntu
[04:10] <jbzz> hamdan:   As if nothing was sent to it>
[04:10] <gnomefreak> mjb: no its not :) give it time you will see
[04:10] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: mplayer
[04:10] <ubotu> mplayer is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MplayerInstallHowto  For compiling, see: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=31061
[04:10] <jbzz> hamdan:   No blinking light?
[04:10] <Cyorxamp> trappist, I hate linux - this I knew... but that was just crap - whats next?
[04:10] <tarheelcoxn> ubotu: thanks
[04:10] <ubotu> tarheelcoxn: de nada
[04:11] <Seveas> rseeber, get a faster system :)
[04:11] <trappist> Cyorxamp: I dunno what the point of that was.
[04:11] <gnomefreak> mjb: in testing stages they fix one thing and 2 get mesed up may not be what you use right now but it might
[04:11] <rseeber> yeah, windows used to boot in 20 seconds, linux takes a minute
[04:11] <Cyorxamp> trappist, no what do I do after that stage? after answering all of the questions I know barely anything about and have nothing to do with my display
[04:11] <rseeber> it's 2ghz
[04:12] <trappist> Cyorxamp: I'm quickly losing my motivation here.
[04:12] <Seveas> rseeber, not that it's of any help for ou now, but kaybuk has done a lot to improve that for dapper and will do even more for dapper+1
[04:12] <mwe> rseeber: disable unnecesary stuff at bootup. windows in 20 secs. that must be a world record. mine takes 45 secs and another minute or so before the desktop is actually ready after login
[04:12] <gnomefreak> rseeber: i have a p2 450mhz and mine takes less than 1 min easy
[04:12] <tatters> mwe followed your instructions its downloading some new packages
[04:12] <Seveas> !tell Cyorxamp about attitude
[04:12] <mjb> gnomefreak: I do know that and I realize that I might get fucked sometime, but at least then I have something to work out. no further discussion necessary, don't waste your time on me ;)
[04:12] <Cyorxamp> does anyone know how to restart the kenerl - i'm guessing thats the next step
[04:12] <mjb> thanks
[04:12] <trappist> rseeber: turning off services you don't need will improve startup times a lot.
[04:12] <tatters> I just accept them yes?
[04:12] <mwe> tatters: how many?
[04:13] <tatters> 14
[04:13] <rseeber> ok, where can i turn off the services? is there a gui, or a config file to edit?
[04:13] <mwe> tatters: new ones or updated ones?
[04:13] <tatters> The following packages will be upgraded:
[04:13] <tatters>   eog evms evms-ncurses gthumb libevms-2.5 libpq4 libtotem-plparser0 pmount
[04:13] <tatters>   rhythmbox serpentine totem totem-gstreamer xchat xchat-common
[04:13] <tatters> 14 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.
[04:13] <tatters> Need to get 5612kB of archives.
[04:13] <mwe> tatters: all upgrades. just accept
[04:13] <trappist> tatters: please don't paste here.
[04:13] <hamdan> jbzz : its printing
[04:13] <tatters> k
[04:14] <gnomefreak> tatters: please dont paste in here
[04:14] <jbzz> hamdan:     I'll be right over to watch.
[04:14] <tatters> sry didnt know I shouldnt
[04:14] <gnomefreak> tatters: that is why pastebin was made
[04:14] <Xenguy> !tell tatters about paste
[04:14] <sskk> rsseber: look at BUM (http://www.marzocca.net/linux/bum.html)?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> Xenguy: he used pastebin earlier he knows about it
[04:15] <tatters> gotcha now I know I wont do again, plz accept my apo0logies
[04:15] <hamdan> jbzz : its printing..but spewing one extra paper
[04:15] <Xenguy> gnomefreak: ahh
[04:15] <hamdan> jbzz : ill have some pizza waiting
[04:15] <virogenesis> why do so many projects end up going from GPL to BSD?
[04:15] <gnomefreak> tatters: we are just warning you alot of people dont have timed to get warned the 2nd time :)
[04:16] <tatters> k,
[04:16] <jbzz> hamdan:     Ha!   I saw something on the internet about spitting out an extra sheet of paper for every good one.  But I did not see a solution there.
[04:16] <tatters> thnx for warning
[04:16] <guest_> I apt-get installed something and now I cannot log in anymore with an account, how can I undo this? is it possible?
[04:16] <Seveas> !xhangs
[04:16] <ubotu> rumour has it, xhangs is login in text mode, remove .Xauthority and .ICEauthority from your homedir
[04:17] <jbzz> hamdan:   Maybe a refinement is needed to one of the settings for that printer.  At this point we are close.
[04:17] <Seveas> ^-- guest_
[04:17] <jbzz> hamdan:   If it kicks out an extra sheet maybe it is trying to print below the bottom margin.
[04:17] <guest_> you mean I login using xhangs instead of what I'd usually do?
[04:17] <guest_> Seveas?
[04:17] <tatters> k alls been updated now mwe
[04:17] <Seveas> guest_, no, someone f*ed up that factoid, hang on
[04:18] <Seveas> !no xhangs is <reply> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[04:18] <ubotu> Seveas: okay
[04:18] <mwe> tatters: good. now install whatever you need
[04:18] <Seveas> !+xhangs
[04:18] <ubotu> If the GUI hangs after logging in, use <ctrl><alt><f1> to switch to text mode. Log in and do: rm .{X,ICE}authority
[04:18] <hamdan> jbzz : let me ajust the res
[04:19] <jbzz> hamdan:     Good idea.
[04:19] <newuser> where can I make a "storage" folder so that it is not locked? I don't want a lot of clutter on my desktop.
[04:19] <guest_> Seveas: but removing .Xauthority and .ICEauthority does somehow need to be done?
[04:19] <Seveas> guest_, now the bot says something that actually makes sense :)
[04:19] <Seveas> guest_, you can't even login in text mode?
[04:19] <tatters> k thnx, should I reinstall acidlab will  this have made a change?
[04:20] <guest_> maybe let me try
[04:20] <guest_> Seveas I get some message about "your system hasn't been on for 10 seconds..."
[04:20] <Ng> newuser: Places->Home would be a good choice :)
[04:20] <mwe> is there a command to purge config files for a package that has already been removed?
[04:20] <Ng> mwe: dpkg -P or apt-get --purge remove
[04:21] <Seveas> guest_, in TEXT mode?!
[04:21] <Ng> mwe: or synaptic can show you a list of all of them in that state and you can easily mark them all for Complete Removabl
[04:21] <Ng> -b+a
[04:21] <pixelfairy> in synaptic, whats the star in the selection mean?
[04:21] <newuser> just coppied a cd to here and it is locked. can't add/remove files from the folder.
[04:21] <Sonderblade> anyone know if it is possible to transfer your ubuntu bugzilla account to the new malone thingy?
[04:22] <Seveas> newuser, shmod -R u+w path/to/folder/
[04:22] <guest_> .Xauthority and .ICEauthority aren't in my home dir!
[04:22] <Seveas> Sonderblade, that should have been done automatically
[04:22] <mwe> Ng: I already removed the package but didn't use --purge. it should work anyway?
[04:22] <Seveas> guest_, how do you know?
[04:22] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: you should beable to sign in using you bugzilla info
[04:22] <Ng> mwe: I think so, if not dpkg -P will
[04:22] <mahogny> am I right to believe that "add applications" can add programs from [Universe] ? because I think I have correctly added such a repository but when I search for "octave" which is clearly there (as seen on packages.ubuntu.com), I get "no results found"
[04:22] <gnomefreak> view hidden files
[04:23] <Sonderblade> yeah *should*... mutter
[04:23] <Seveas> mahogny, yes "Add applications" can use universe too
[04:23] <mahogny> hm. ok
[04:23] <Seveas> Sonderblade, go to #launchpad if it didn't happen
[04:23] <X-rayWD> I'm back guys...
[04:23] <X-rayWD> and the problem has NOT been solved...
[04:23] <gnomefreak> Sonderblade: i dont know i have an account at launchpad before i did at bugzilla
[04:24] <hamdan> jbzz : its printin but still kickin out an extra paper..tried all the res but no luck
[04:24] <mwe> Ng: dpkg -P worked. apt-get said already removed
[04:24] <soundray> I have an SPSS file that I need to read in Ubuntu. I've installed GNU R and the r-cran-foreign package. I don't know enough R to import the file -- please help or suggest another way to make the SPSS file readable.
[04:24] <jaaken> Hello
[04:24] <gnomefreak> hi
[04:24] <X-rayWD> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" worked but the "Fatal Error - No screen found" remains
[04:24] <guest_> Seveas I did ls -a ?
[04:25] <guest_> lost your pants?
[04:25] <Sonderblade> gnomefreak, Seveas: Maybe it was transferred.. or maybe it created a new account for me
[04:25] <plett> soundray: if you know SPSS already, there is PSPP which is aparently compatible. i've never used either though
[04:25] <Seveas> guest_, so you were able to login in text mode?
[04:25] <jbzz> hamdan:     We are closer.  We know we have the correct smb line to get from your Ubuntu to the XP system.   The driver or a setting is of interest.
[04:25] <jaaken> got a bit of a problem here: installed a new ubuntu system, but accidentally I removed my user from the sudoers list. Is there some default password for root?
[04:25] <sskk> "sudo /etc/init.d/apache2 start" has no effect at all - no printout and no server started. Only when I run "sudo apache2ctl start" apache2 will start. Cant find any obvious mistakes in /etc/init.d/apache2 . Any ideas why?
[04:25] <guest_> no I'm checking in the home dir from another account I had
[04:25] <guest_> Seveas
[04:25] <jaaken> I can't add a new user, nothing administrative at all anymore... :s
[04:26] <X-rayWD> "sudo apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx" worked but the "Fatal Error - No screen found" remains
[04:26] <Seveas> guest_, ah, other accounts can log in?
[04:26] <jbzz> hamdan:   I am looking at that website again.  It is saying something about margins.
[04:26] <guest_> yes
[04:26] <paulproteus> jaaken: You should use init=/bin/sh to get an emergency root shell.
[04:26] <guest_> Seveas yes
[04:26] <soundray> plett, thanks for the hint -- I don't know SPSS, but I'll install pspp and see how far I get.
[04:26] <jaaken> paulproteus: as a kernel parameter at bootup you mean?
[04:26] <paulproteus> jaaken: Do you know how to pass arguments to the kernel?
[04:26] <Seveas> hmm, apart from the .{X,ICE}authority files I wouldn't know a cause...
[04:27] <paulproteus> Right, esactly jaaken.
[04:27] <hamdan> jbzz : margins .. interesting
[04:27] <paulproteus> Once you pass that argument, you'll get a root shell.
[04:27] <jaaken> paulproteus: I see what you mean, hadn't thought of that, thanks a bunch, ttyl perhaps
[04:27] <guest_> Seveas, the other account is called guest
[04:27] <paulproteus> You should do this:
[04:27] <paulproteus> mount -o remount,rw /
[04:27] <paulproteus> nano -w /etc/sudoers
[04:27] <paulproteus> Fix sudoers, then:
[04:27] <paulproteus> mount -o remount,ro /
[04:27] <paulproteus> sync
[04:27] <shindo> Has anybody here tried installing ubuntu on an Acer Travelmate 4001?
[04:27] <paulproteus> Then ctrl-alt-del, jaaken, and all should be well.
[04:27] <guest_> Seveas?
[04:27] <guest_> :-(
[04:27] <jaaken> paulproteus: great, thanks again :)
[04:27] <tarheelcoxn> I've got a prism 2.5 chipset built into this laptop. When it boots, ubuntu loads both the hostap and the orinoco modules. In order to get wireless working, I then have to modprobe -r all the modules and then re-insert the hostap ones
[04:27] <sskk> is there a way to update the /etc/init.d/apache2 script from a repository?
[04:28] <tarheelcoxn> how can I (safely) get rid of the orinoco modules?
[04:28] <Seveas> sskk, for which purpose?
[04:28] <tarheelcoxn> I'm running breezy
[04:28] <paulproteus> tarheelcoxn: You could simply move them from /lib/modules/ to somewhere else, like /root/ .
[04:29] <paulproteus> tarheelcoxn: That way, you'll have them somewhere if you need them later, and if you don't, they're out of the way
[04:29] <sskk> Seveas: I think something is wrong with mine, as it is not working at all. Google will not give me any examples...
[04:29] <jbzz> hamdan:     To me it is as if the print is trying to go just below the bottom margin.  Then it forces a form feed.  Then it get a non-forced form feed from the text.  Maybe.
[04:29] <Seveas> sskk, did you edit it?
[04:29] <Oetzi> how can i add a new window manager to the gdm menu?
[04:30] <sskk> Seveas: Only when a minor bit, when I realised it didn't work, however I have been using "unofficial" repositories for installation
[04:30] <mwe> Oetzi: it should be added when you install it
[04:30] <Seveas> Oetzi, the window managers ubuntu provides all "install" themselves into gdm
[04:30] <Seveas> sskk, I'd suggest you completely wipe and reinstall apache
[04:30] <Oetzi> no wm2 or udwm haven't install themselve
[04:31] <sskk> Seveas: been there... should that also remove the /etc/init.d/apache2 file
[04:31] <tarheelcoxn> paulproteus: thanks
[04:31] <tarheelcoxn> paulproteus: I'll try that
[04:31] <newuser> Seveas: bash: shmod: command not found
[04:31] <Seveas> Oetzi, then you will need to manually create a .desktop file for them in /usr/share/xsessions
[04:31] <Seveas> newuser, chmod
[04:31] <Oetzi> Seveas: thx
[04:31] <Seveas> sskk, if you apt-get remove --purge it: yes
[04:32] <Oetzi> i didnt find the right directory
[04:32] <sskk> Seveas: thanks. Will give it another go then
[04:32] <jbzz> hamdan:   What is amazing is that this is not much simpler.  I would have thought that by now all of the drivers would have been 'well know' for each Laserjet printer.
[04:33] <chenf> hello!
[04:34] <prxq> hi. How do I install acroread? I used the package from adobe but it crashes right after startup without any message
[04:34] <AlexP> where can I download the last red hat distribution?
[04:34] <guest_> Seveas, how come you're not in the list ?
[04:34] <Seveas> AlexP, ask in #redhat
[04:34] <Seveas> this channel is for Ubuntu support
[04:34] <AlexP> ok thanks
[04:34] <hamdan> jbzz : i guess this is not the case
[04:34] <Seveas> guest_, because I am not really here ;)
[04:34] <guest_> :S
[04:34] <hamdan> jbzz : i think i need to sort out the margins somehow
[04:34] <newuser> Seveas: thanks, that was it.
[04:35] <affe_> I've got Kubuntu 5.10 running and I can't get PSI (jabber client) to make audio notifications
[04:35] <affe_> (it worked in stock Debian Sarge)
[04:35] <jaaken> paulproteus: thanks a lot, you saved the day :)
[04:36] <DPadclear> Hi. I'm installing Breezy to a new hard drive and I wanted to know if it is possible to sync (export and import) the packages installed from the old drive to the new one?
[04:36] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes.  Can you tell if you are missing any lines at the bottoms of the pages?   Like maybe one line missing?
[04:36] <guest_> Seveas could it be that the .{X,ICE}authority files are hidden to other users?
[04:36] <Seveas> DPadclear, you can simply copy over the old installation
[04:36] <Seveas> guest_, ls -a should still show them
[04:38] <guest_> Seveas so then they're really gone and there is no way of restoring the system
[04:38] <DPadclear> Seveas; no, I thought of that, but i'm updating a lot of how the filesystem is setup (I'm going to use LVM and I intend to stick in two drives in a RAID1 config).
[04:38] <mopatop> hey guys. I'm running a breezy server, and I'd like to set up a script to run whenever a usbdisk is plugged in - can anyone recommend the best way to do this?
[04:38] <guest_> mopatop ask Seveas, he is very knowledgable
[04:38] <olicat> could someone take a look at this kvm switch please? i'm wondering if it would work with my setup (1 usb mouse + 1 usb keyboard between 2 pc's) http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/ASIN/B0002B3E5U/qid=1138030591/sr=8-1/ref=sr_8_xs_ap_i1_xgl/026-2606145-9502860
[04:39] <hamdan> jbzz: looks ok..last lines are showing
[04:39] <antisocial_boris> that reminds me, still need to move over to breezy
[04:39] <ron_> could someone recommend me a good software to burn cd images (iso,bin) to cds that works with ubuntu?
[04:39] <jaaken> I've gotta say, I'm extremely pleased with Ubuntu, I've set it up on 2 laptops recently, and also on mine now, haven't had too much problems, and it runs great
[04:39] <mopatop> guest_: it's an open question, if seveas wants to answer he's welcome to :)
[04:39] <Seveas> DPadclear, can you still boot the old system?
[04:39] <jaaken> only problems I've encountered was after moving to a custom kernel
[04:39] <jbzz> hamdan:   I see that there are some settings that can be made in the 'Properties' of the printer but it does not look obvious if any contribute.
[04:40] <Seveas> mopatop, you'd have to dive into udev and pmount to hook up such a script
[04:40] <ron_> anyone? :D
[04:40] <DPadclear> Seveas; Oh yeah, that's where i'm talking from.
[04:40] <guest_> Seveas are you still there?
[04:40] <guest_> does anybody else know anything about text mode startups?
[04:40] <Seveas> DPadclear, good: dpkg --get-selections > some_file
[04:41] <Seveas> and in the new system: dpkg --set-selections < some file && apt-get -f install
[04:41] <eastgroup> how to switch between languges ?
[04:41] <Bizzeh> hey, i have /lib/modules/2.6.12-9-amd64-k8-smp/* but there is no build dir inside that
[04:41] <guest_> why are you invisible Seveas
[04:41] <Bizzeh> what do i need to get it there?
[04:41] <Seveas> eastgroup, install one via system -> admin -> language selector and choose a language when logging in
[04:41] <jbzz> hamdan:   If you are not missing lines then it is form feeding at the correct place but then I think there is another form feed occurring to clear the following sheet.
[04:41] <Seveas> guest_, are you using xchat?
[04:41] <guest_> yes X-Chat
[04:41] <Seveas> guest_, then look at the top of the list :)
[04:42] <guest_> oh heh
[04:42] <mopatop> Seveas: won't some hotplug configuration do the job?
[04:42] <jbzz> hamdan:     The resolution in the 'Properties' of the printer appear to be set at 600 by default but can be set lower.
[04:42] <Seveas> mopatop, maybe, but hotplug is removed from dapper so it would stop working there
[04:42] <eastgroup> i mean the language i tybe i added it from keyboard option , but i don't know which hot key to switch to tybe
[04:43] <KSean> Hey - I've installed aMSN with TCL/TK 8.5a3, but aMSN doesn't detect my truetype fonts :\ . Can anyone help?
[04:43] <guest_> I thought linux was supposed to be some ruling cool OS, I install one thing exactly as it is supposed to be done and I can't log in anymore as a certain user grrr
[04:43] <eastgroup> also i add it on language seletor as like you said ..
[04:43] <mopatop> Seveas: okay thanks for the tip. I'll look at udev. my script needs to run as root so I don't think pmount needs examining - unless udev runs as !root
[04:43] <hamdan> jbzz : ive tried that..didnt work
[04:43] <pixelfairy> so why would a package (in this case kino) be held back? (after enabling backports)
[04:43] <ron_> Could anyone recommend me a good cd burning software that has also image burning capabilities?
[04:43] <SirKillalot2> how can I import .WAV files with audacity and get them cut after each other automaticly?
[04:44] <Mez> hey Ryan
[04:44] <Mez> weird seeing you here
[04:44] <ubuntugeek> hey mez.. forums are backup
[04:44] <jbzz> hamdan:   Well we are so close.  I can not believe we are the only ones that ran into this.
[04:44] <hamdan> well...jbzz its printing..at least :)
[04:44] <ubuntugeek> we had a hardware crash over the weekend..
[04:44] <Mez> ubuntugeek, not something I wanted to know - I hate the things - lol - I darent go near the backports area
[04:44] <dwdrums> hi! got a problem with kubuntu
[04:44] <hamdan> jbzz : thanks for all your help and patience
[04:44] <ubuntugeek> mez: heh :)
[04:45] <Mez> Ryan: The server is too busy at the moment. Please try again later.
[04:45] <dwdrums> i cannot install vlc player!!
[04:45] <hamdan> jbzz : thanx to everyone else too!! :)
[04:45] <jbzz> hamdan:   Yes that means we are talking to the correct machine.  Sure.   Hope you can remember what you did to get you this far.  See you.
[04:45] <Seveas> dwdrums, paste the errors you get on the pastebin
[04:45] <ubuntugeek> mez: yeah had to put a load limit on the software for the next few hours while the traffic evens out..
[04:45] <dwdrums> ok
[04:45] <Bizzeh> after i built a module for another kernel to the one im running now, how do i insert that module into that spesific kernel?
[04:46] <dwdrums> E: cannot find package vlc
[04:46] <dwdrums> i tried everything!
[04:46] <hamdan> jbzz : just trying to get used to the changes from win to ubuntu
[04:46] <Mez> Ryan: *shrugs* well - if you used IPB - you wouldnt need to do that
[04:47] <ubuntugeek> mez: :) true fact actually I've been looking for something else.. Only thing holding me back is mailing list integration..
[04:47] <ccc_> dwdrums: have you enabled the universe repository?
[04:47] <Mez> ubuntugeek, didnt we talk about this before ??
[04:47] <jbzz> hamdan:   Same here.  I am just getting comfortable.  I actually like Ubuntu.  I will be staying with it.  I have tried others.
[04:47] <dwdrums> yes, i think....
[04:47] <Mez> ubuntugeek, jump on AIM and we'll talk
[04:47] <dwdrums> or, how to do that?
[04:47] <Alakazam> im getting Makefile:166: *** Cannot find a kernel config file.  Stop.
[04:47] <Alakazam> "
[04:47] <jaaken> dwdrums, edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:47] <Alakazam> help
[04:47] <dwdrums> oh.. yes of course!!!
[04:48] <dwdrums> i can install other programs!
[04:48] <dwdrums> like xchat
[04:48] <Bizzeh> how do i insmod a module into a kernel im not currently using?
[04:48] <jaaken> dwdrums, what does apt-cache search vlc tells you?
[04:48] <jaaken> -s
[04:48] <Alakazam> Bizzeh, rebuild the kernel
[04:49] <Bizzeh> Alakazam, i have a smp build of rt2500.ko
[04:49] <funkyHat> Has anyone else had problems with gaim randomly segfaulting?
[04:49] <eastgroup> is there a hot key to change language ?
[04:49] <eastgroup> to tybe ?
[04:49] <pixelfairy> funkyHat: gaims been totally solid for me since 1.5
[04:49] <ron_> can anyone recommend me a cd burning software for ubuntu
[04:49] <Kyral> k3b
[04:49] <dwdrums> er.. nothing..
[04:49] <Bizzeh> used the smp headers from the smp kernel to build it.. i have no idea how to get the kernel to accept it
[04:49] <pixelfairy> on any version of linux ive tried
[04:49] <pixelfairy> ron_: some of its built in to gnome
[04:49] <ron_> cdrecord?
[04:50] <funkyHat> pixelfairy, cool, I think it might be to do with very large contacts list on msn or my google talk (jabber) connection
[04:50] <dwdrums> i've typed apt-cache search vlc
[04:50] <eastgroup> if i need to tybe with other lang how i can do it ?
[04:50] <pixelfairy> ron_: thats what i usually use
[04:50] <ron_> pixelfairy, i need something that can burn images.. can it?
[04:50] <funkyHat> eastgroup, you can set up a keyboard layout switcher on your panel
[04:50] <pixelfairy> funkyHat: i dont have msn, so it could be there, im also using googletalk jabber
[04:50] <pixelfairy> ron_: what do you mean? photocd?
[04:51] <pixelfairy> or just image files? or iso images?
[04:51] <ron_> pixelfairy, i mean. bins and isos
[04:51] <pixelfairy> yes
[04:51] <funkyHat> eastgroup, right click on the top panel and click "+ add to panel" and add the keyboard indicator
[04:51] <pixelfairy> ron_: mkisofs to make the iso, cdrecord to burn it
[04:51] <jaaken> dwdrums, and?
[04:51] <pixelfairy> or just let gnome / kde etc handle all that
[04:51] <funkyHat> eastgroup, then you can right click and click move and put it where you want it to go
[04:52] <ron_> ok. this is all shell based right?
[04:52] <ron_> no gui?
[04:52] <guillem101> How can I know which model my network adapter is?
[04:52] <jaaken> guillem101, lspci
[04:52] <dwdrums> i've typed apt-cache search vlc
[04:52] <pixelfairy> ron_: yes, the man pages are pretty detailed so you might want to take notes of the options you want in another window while you read them
[04:52] <olicat> does anyone know if a kvm switch which has 2 usb inputs (1 keyboard + 1 mouse) and only one usb output for both, will work with ubuntu?
[04:52] <dwdrums> and nothing happened..
[04:53] <jaaken> dwdrums, that means that you didn't enable the universe repository in sources.list afaik
[04:53] <guillem101> jaaken, lspci shows no relevant info for the adapter, I'm afraid of :_(
[04:53] <gobfrey> join #perl
[04:53] <funkyHat> dwdrums, have you added any extra repositories? I think vlc is in universe
[04:53] <jaaken> guillem101, lspci -v ?
[04:53] <ron_> alright. if i have questions io will be back,
[04:53] <dwdrums> yes it is..
[04:53] <ron_> thanks, pixelfairy
[04:53] <ron_> :)
[04:53] <pixelfairy> k
[04:53] <dwdrums> what for extra repositories? for example?
[04:54] <dwdrums> what do u mean?
[04:54] <jaaken> dwdrums, have a look at /etc/apt/sources.list
[04:54] <funkyHat> !tell dwdrums about repositories
[04:54] <eastgroup> funkyHat , yes already add it there ..
[04:55] <eastgroup> funkyHat , how can switch between lang now ?
[04:55] <dwdrums> ok..
[04:55] <funkyHat> eastgroup, cool, now right click on it and click 'open keyboard preferences'
[04:55] <bluesign> when I do lspci i get a memory region map, where this map comes from?
[04:56] <eastgroup> funkyHat , i could not found it ?
[04:56] <eastgroup> funkyHat , where i can find it ?
[04:56] <olicat> does anyone know if a kvm switch which has 2 usb inputs (1 keyboard + 1 mouse) and only one usb output for both, will work with ubuntu?
[04:57] <funkyHat> when you right click on the keyboard indicator applet, it's there
[04:57] <guillem101> jaaken, nope. I only see my other network card there (I've two of them)
[04:57] <eastgroup> i'm in keyboard preferances
[04:57] <funkyHat> ahh ok
[04:57] <funkyHat> eastgroup, and you want to set up a keyboard shortcut to switch?
[04:57] <giorgos> I have a partition with Windows, how can I locate them from Linux?
[04:57] <iantec> does synaptic have the flash plugins for firefox? and does it have fire fox 1.5? in its repository?
[04:58] <eastgroup> funkyHat , in layout options you mean ?
[04:58] <deFrysk> iantec, yes and no
[04:58] <funkyHat> eastgroup, I'm just asking exactly what you are trying to do
[04:58] <giorgos> in fact the windows partitions are two (C: and D: )
[04:58] <ron_> pixelfairy. is there a gui alternative to cdrecord. i am still quite new to ubuntu and i just need to burn something quickly
[04:59] <iantec> ic thanks
[04:59] <pixelfairy> ron_ if you insert a blank cd, it should pop up a gui for you
[04:59] <eastgroup> funkyHat , i want to tybe with other lang i add it on keyboard preferences , so what next to switch and tybe with it ?
[04:59] <ron_> k i will try
[04:59] <funkyHat> eastgroup, just click on the layout indicator (left-click) and the letters will change
[05:00] <Kyler> A friend just did a "server" installation of Ubuntu.  Now I want to get all of the normal desktop packages.  Is there a single package to install with all of the dependencies?
[05:00] <pixelfairy> ron_: most people dont use cdrecord/mkisofs anymore (except weirdos like me) i thought you were just curious about that
[05:00] <giorgos> how can I locate a windows partition from Linix?
[05:00] <dwdrums> all repositories are enabled!
[05:00] <ron_> ye well i need a quick fix to burn an iso
[05:00] <ron_> :-p
[05:00] <giorgos> how can I locate a windows partition from Linux?
[05:00] <pixelfairy> Kyler: try ubuntu-desktop
[05:01] <funkyHat> ron_, K3b
[05:01] <pixelfairy> if not, kubuntu-desktop should work
[05:01] <mopatop> ron_: use gnomebaker or right-click the iso in the filemanager
[05:01] <ron_> k3b can burn images?
[05:01] <deFrysk> ron_, rightklick the iso in nautilus and select burn to disc
[05:01] <Kyler> pixelfairy:  I just got on the machine and saw that.  Will that give *everything* that the normal install does?  Thanks!
[05:01] <guillem101> the network interface seems to be using something like "forcedeth" driver. Any clue?
[05:01] <MrRio> given that the human theme is so, erm, brown, then maybe ubuntu should include some more modern looking themes besides the default gnome ones
[05:01] <ron_> hrm.. will test brb
[05:01] <pixelfairy> Kyler: dont know
[05:01] <MrRio> like GlossyP, thats a nice one
[05:01] <robotgeek> MrRio: Preferences -> Themes
[05:02] <FliesLikeALap> when i install a package containing the kernel source from apt (linux-source-2.6.12) where dos it put the source?
[05:02] <deFrysk> ron_, and yes thats how easy it is in gnome
[05:02] <pixelfairy> MrRio: install art-manager
[05:02] <MrRio> robotgeek: yeah, pop them in there
[05:02] <MrRio> i mean by default, it should have a few extra
[05:02] <Kyler> Also, these people used Knoppix to get their system booted and they liked KDE.  Is there a good way to have both Gnome and KDE installed so they can switch between them at the display manager?
[05:02] <giorgos> Anyone???? how can I locate a windows partition from Linux?
[05:02] <cemmel> does anyone know how to make it so nautilus displays the location textbox instead of the location breadcrumb buttons by default?
[05:02] <deFrysk> Kyler, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <funkyHat> !ntfs
[05:02] <ubotu> hmm... ntfs is the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[05:02] <pixelfairy> giorgos: its not already mounted?
[05:03] <dwdrums> mount -ntfs /dev/..
[05:03] <Kyler> giorgos:  What do you mean by "locate"?
[05:03] <eastgroup> layout indicator but i can't find it
[05:03] <hmp_> ntfs is evil
[05:03] <Kyler> deFrysk: I'll try it.  Thank you.
[05:03] <funkyHat> giorgos, look at what ubotu just said
[05:03] <giorgos> just being able see the folders
[05:03] <born_Ubuntu> galera alguem sabe se o repositrio do UBUNTU est OK?
[05:03] <pixelfairy> giorgos: look in /media
[05:03] <deFrysk> Kyler, in gdm you can switch beteween kde and gnome using "session"
[05:04] <Kyler> deFrysk:  Good.  That's exactly  what I want.  Thank you.
[05:04] <guest_> Seveas, I logged in text mode and logged out again there was one file about the program I installed in my dir but not the 2 you mentioned
[05:04] <Kyler> giorgos: "mkdir /mnt/mymsdisk; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/mymsdisk"
[05:04] <pixelfairy> whats a simple way to edit kde/gnome menues?
[05:04] <guest_> Seveas but I suppose when you install something with apt-get you have to somehow properly uninstall it, right?
[05:05] <AMDXP> wow
[05:05] <deFrysk> pixelfairy, in gnome rightclick applications in panel and select edit menus
[05:05] <noaXess> hi all..
[05:05] <guest_> Seveas, why are you now not at the top of the list anymore
[05:05] <eastgroup> is there right and shift to change lang?
[05:05] <giorgos> nothing in media....
[05:05] <pixelfairy> deFrysk: thanks, ill go ask in kubuntu for the other
[05:05] <noaXess> i was here earlier.. have now found time to test install ubuntu.,my first view.. COOL.. really cool..
[05:06] <giorgos> Kyler, when u say mydisk should I replace that with sth?
[05:06] <ron_> deFrysk, you said right click in nautilus on the file. i have the cue and bin file i want to burn on my desktop and when i right click on it, i don't see that option
[05:06] <giorgos> Kyler, e.g. Win_C?
[05:06] <noaXess> my laptop acer 2026 with thw wlan 2200bg card.,. works since the install processs. :)
[05:06] <eastgroup> dose any one switch between 2 lang easy ?
[05:06] <Kyler> giorgos: It's whatever you want to call it in Linux.
[05:06] <deFrysk> ron_, not sure about cue and bin files, sorry
[05:06] <eastgroup> ??
[05:07] <iantec> sudo ./ati-driver-installer-8.21.7-i386.run is this right?
[05:07] <ron_> so what software can burn cue and bin files?
[05:07] <giorgos> Kyler, root@elab5:/var/tmp# mkdir /mnt/Win_C; mount /dev/hda1 /mnt/Win_C
[05:07] <giorgos> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[05:07] <deFrysk> ron_, k3b is pretty versatile
[05:07] <Kyler> giorgos: Try "mount -t vfat ..."
[05:08] <ron_> ok. i will install that
[05:08] <ron_> should i download the source or get a binary
[05:09] <giorgos> Kyler, root@elab5:/var/tmp# mkdir /mnt/Win_C; mount -t vfat/dev/hda1 /mnt/Win_C
[05:09] <giorgos> mkdir: cannot create directory `/mnt/Win_C': File exists
[05:09] <Kyler> giorgos: There's no need to run mkdir again.  Did the mount succeed?
[05:09] <guest_> Seveas, are you awake?
[05:10] <Stuttergart> Has anyone else noticed that the Xorg packages in Drake don't have support for LBX?
[05:10] <giorgos> A new folder Win_C has breen created but nothing inside it
[05:10] <giorgos> Kyler, A new folder Win_C has breen created but nothing inside it
[05:10] <WarriorSlayer> hy guys, i've installed kubuntu amd64 today and it stops when loading the hotplug system
[05:10] <jono> hi all
[05:10] <guest_> anyone, the iptables _f/_x/etc. commands are they account-sensible?
[05:10] <jono> is it a bad idea to remove ubuntu-desktop?
[05:10] <ron_> http://k3b.plainblack.com/download which link should i download from?
[05:11] <guest_> the iptables -F/-X/etc. commands are they account-sensitive?
[05:11] <v3l0ct> jano: not really
[05:11] <jono> removing gs-esp tries to remove ubuntu-desktop
[05:11] <Kyler> giorgos:  Are you sure it's /dev/hda1 you want?  Try "fdisk -l /dev/hda" (or hd[bcd]  for a second disk).
[05:11] <deFrysk> ron_, sudo apt-get install k3b
[05:11] <frogzoo> guest_, the kernel only sees packets, so is unaware of which user they belong to
[05:12] <Kyler> giorgos: You might also be able to mount the disk from your desktop.  I'm just giving low-level instructions.
[05:12] <FliesLikeALap> is anyone here familiar with the linux cisco vpn client?
[05:12] <ron_> deFrysk, ahh, i didn't know this distro came with it
[05:12] <giorgos> Kyler, I don't even know what's a hdal just followed ur instructions (filesystem is ntfs if tha't what u mean)
[05:12] <deFrysk> ron_, ubuntu has thousands of packages available ;0
[05:12] <enkrav> Hello, Why on earth doesn't pressing on the eject-button of my dvd drive eject the DVD, while right-clicking on the icon -> eject does ?
[05:12] <ron_> brb
[05:13] <cemmel> how do i modify nautilus to display the location textbox by default?
[05:13] <Ng> enkrav: linux locks the drive while it has it mounted
[05:13] <giorgos> Kyler, Disk /dev/hda doesn't contain a valid partition table
[05:13] <giorgos> Kyler, I can't do it from Desktop
[05:13] <guest_> frogzoo, so then when you install KMyFirewall as one user they are installed for all?
[05:13] <v3l0ct> enkrav, if you install automatix it has a script to do just that.
[05:13] <frogzoo> ron ---> system -> admin -> add application & take a look around
[05:13] <frogzoo> guest_, yup
[05:14] <ron_> ah kewl.. will do :)
[05:14] <Kyler> giorgos:  Try "mount" to see what disks you're already using.
[05:14] <robotgeek> grr
[05:14] <robotgeek> !automatix
[05:14] <ubotu> automatix is, like, totally, messy, breaks all sorts of security guidelines, and is not open to improvement. In short: DO NOT USE IT!
[05:14] <enkrav> v3l0ct, Ng, well this behaviour would fit well in the default install, I think
[05:14] <Kyler> giorgos:  You can also poke through the output of "dmesg" to find disks.
[05:14] <robotgeek> v3l0ct: please donot recommend automatix
[05:15] <guest_> when I press Ctrl-Alt-F1 now I get a garbled screen, is there not some other way of switching to the text only mode?
[05:15] <robotgeek> guest_: ctrl + alt + f2?
[05:15] <v3l0ct> robotgeek: I don't use it or recommend it, but I'll keep that in mind for future reference
[05:16] <robotgeek> v3l0ct: thank you
[05:16] <giorgos> Kyler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7527
[05:16] <v3l0ct> np :)
[05:16] <cybermike> My girlsfriend runs ubuntu on her workstation, and i have to back it up now, isnt it enough for me to backup her homedir to get all her settings and documents out?
[05:16] <giorgos> Kyler, that's the mount output
[05:16] <enkrav> I think it should be a kernel option of auto-umount when pressing the eject button ...
[05:18] <Kyler> giorgos: Try "fdisk -l /dev/sda".
[05:19] <kofj> debian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# ls -l Anfad.sys FAD.sys
[05:19] <kofj> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 20992 2005-12-16 10:00 Anfad.sys
[05:19] <kofj> -rwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38528 2005-12-16 10:00 FAD.sys
[05:19] <kofj> debian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# rm Anfad.sys FAD.sys
[05:19] <kofj> rm:  Anfad.sys: 
[05:19] <kofj> rm:  FAD.sys: 
[05:19] <FliesLikeALap> kofj don't paste here
[05:19] <kofj> debian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# id
[05:19] <kofj> uid=0(root) gid=0(root) groups=0(root)
[05:19] <kofj> debian:/mnt/c/WINDOWS/system32/drivers# whoami
[05:19] <kofj> root
[05:19] <giorgos> Kyler, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/d7528
[05:19] <FliesLikeALap> !tell kofj about paste
[05:19] <coolboy> hi what's the path to my cd drive?
[05:19] <kofj> I'm sorry
[05:19] <FliesLikeALap> coolboy,  once mounted it should be /media/cdrom0 or /media/cdrom
[05:20] <coolboy> k thx
[05:20] <robotgeek> kofj: please read /topic
[05:20] <frogzoo> coolboy, /dev/cdrom   :)
[05:20] <coolboy> so for terminal it's /home/<username>/media/cdrom<0> ?????,
[05:20] <coolboy> ow ok
[05:20] <FliesLikeALap> no frogzoo  that is incorrect
[05:20] <Kyler> giorgos: It looks like /dev/sda1 and /dev/sda5 are your MS partitions.
[05:20] <skon> it's /media/cdrom
[05:20] <FliesLikeALap> no coolboy  just /media/cdrom
[05:21] <skon> or just /cdrom
[05:21] <frogzoo> FliesLikeABrick, I have /dev/cdrom -> /dev/hdc
[05:21] <coolboy> k
[05:21] <giorgos> Kyler, so what r we doing now?
[05:21] <FliesLikeALap> frogzoo,  just becase you do doesn't mean everyone else does
[05:21] <FliesLikeALap> er frogzoo  my apologies, something is weird on here
[05:21] <frogzoo> FliesLikeABrick, /dev/cdrom is standard, I thought?
[05:21] <FliesLikeALap> yeah frogzoo my mistake
[05:22] <frogzoo> cool - just was wondering if I'd put the link in meself
[05:22] <FliesLikeALap> frogzoo,  that is still only the path to the device though, not the mount point
[05:22] <frogzoo> true true
[05:24] <frogzoo> now the 27c question - does anyone know how to get gxine to read a raw DVD device ?
[05:24] <thoffmeyer> is there a way I can tell ubuntu not to load a specific module at bootup? say for intance, rt2570
[05:24] <giorgos> Kyler, I try to open sda1 or 5 and I get permission denied
[05:24] <joh> thoffmeyer: add it to /etc/modules
[05:24] <skon> thoffmeyer: go into /etc/init.d/
[05:25] <Kyler> giorgos: Do it as root.
[05:25] <frogzoo> thoffmeyer, take a look for your module in /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy
[05:25] <skon> joh: that's for adding it to the modules list....isn't it?
[05:25] <giorgos> Kyler, That's what I am doing
[05:25] <joh> skon: for loading at boottime
[05:25] <frogzoo> skon, should be able to pass rt2570=off I think....
[05:25] <Kyler> giorgos: It would be very odd for root to get "permission denied".
[05:26] <lesshaste> where do apic bugs get reported to? lkml or somewhere specific like acpi?
[05:26] <skon> giorgos: probably because you can't just open a device file like that
[05:27] <giorgos> skon, and why is that?
[05:27] <skon> giorgos: you have to mount devices into other locations
[05:27] <skon> giorgos: into the media folder for example
[05:28] <frogzoo> lesshaste, apic != acpi
[05:28] <lesshaste> frogzoo, yes I know... I know where to report acpi bugs
[05:28] <lesshaste> frogzoo, but not apic ones
[05:28] <v3l0ct> skon, not necessarily the folder could be anything it could be /mnt or anything else
[05:28] <skon> v3l0ct: I said for example, please read
[05:29] <giorgos> skon, how is that? (sorry but I am a nob)
[05:29] <skon> giorgos: what device are you trying to look at?
[05:30] <giorgos> skon, a windows partition in my HDD
[05:30] <skon> !tell giorgos about mount
[05:31] <skon> !tell giorgos about windowspartitions
[05:31] <skon> !tell giorgos about windowsdrives
[05:31] <skon> that should be good
[05:31] <mrpink> hi everybody
[05:32] <mrpink> i tried to upgrade my system memory up to 1024 mb
[05:32] <gonso> quick WPA connection question here.
[05:32] <gonso> i'm using the ipw2200 driver
[05:32] <mrpink> but after that my pc stopped booting between starting x and kdm bootprompt
[05:32] <gonso> and when i try running wpa_supplicant with that driver i get the message:
[05:33] <mrpink> does anybody konw what to do
[05:33] <gonso> ioctl[SIOCSIWPMKSA] : Operation not supported
[05:33] <mrpink> iam still making an memtest
[05:34] <gonso> has anyone has experience with this?  i believe the problem is with an incompatibility in the current driver code shipping with ubuntu, but i'm definitely not positive about this
[05:34] <mrpink> but it seems there are no problems with the ram
[05:34] <frogzoo> mrpink, boot in to memtest & run for 20 mins
[05:35] <giorgos> skon, THANKS!
[05:35] <skon> giorgos: welcome
[05:35] <mrpink> frogzoo: i did
[05:35] <giorgos> Kyler, also THANKS
[05:35] <mrpink> frogzoo: memtest runs since about 90 mins
[05:36] <frogzoo> mrpink, can you boot into recovery mode? if so, it's an X problem
[05:36] <mrpink> i will have a try
[05:36] <giorgos> skon,I was reading in that link that "The root account is disabled in Ubuntu for security reasons" so there's no root account in Ububtu?
[05:36] <mrpink> can interrupt memtest without any problems?
[05:36] <Bizzeh> i cannot get ubuntu to load under a smp kernel at all
[05:36] <joh> giorgos: use sudo
[05:37] <Bizzeh> always dies at the sync clock with ntp.ubuntulinux.org
[05:37] <skon> !tell giorgos about sudo
[05:37] <skon> there you go
[05:37] <giorgos> joh, just asking about root account cos I find that a little bit weird
[05:38] <joh> giorgos: read what skon told you
[05:38] <katie_> with vlc installed, i get no sound
[05:38] <katie_> ideas?
[05:38] <katie_> oh, nm
[05:38] <katie_> got it
[05:38] <coolboy> i have a second drive
[05:39] <skon> giorgos: generally, there is no use for root on a system that has sudo. it's more secure that way. sudo makes you root temporarily. read what ubotu sent you for more details
[05:39] <cybermike> giorgos, just use: sudo passwd root, to set root password
[05:39] <coolboy> what's that called
[05:39] <cybermike> giorgos, or : sudo su - , to get a root shell
[05:39] <coolboy> i'm running mohaa setup in wine
[05:39] <frogzoo> cybermike, sudo -s is quicker
[05:39] <giorgos> cybermike, hm then why if a hit su I enter in root?
[05:39] <coolboy> any people have experience
[05:40] <giorgos> Most weird is that I can change root password through User Accounts... (headbang!)
[05:40] <coolboy> how do I set cd drives to manual open
[05:40] <skon> giorgos: did you read the wiki article?
[05:40] <Bizzeh> does anyone kno why ubuntu doesnt like smp kernels
[05:40] <giorgos> skon, yeap
[05:40] <skon> coolboy: what do you mean "manual open"
[05:41] <Ng> Bizzeh: doesn't like them?
[05:41] <skon> giorgos: do you understand it
[05:41] <coolboy> skon: so i can press the cd drive open button
[05:41] <coolboy> skon: I need to do it for wine
[05:41] <skon> coolboy: I think it's sudo apt-get install eject
[05:41] <Bizzeh> Ng: amd64 k8 kernel works, amd64 generic works, amd64 smp k8 locks on boot
[05:42] <skon> coolboy: actually, not sure if that'll do it....if you download Automatix, there is an option that installs that for you
[05:42] <skon> !tell coolboy about automatix
[05:42] <skon> er
[05:42] <giorgos> skon, I think so
[05:42] <Ng> Bizzeh: erk, that sounds like a bug - could you log it at launchpad.net please? (list the hardware you're running too if possible)
[05:42] <v3l0ct> coolboy: sudo eject cdrom (it's that where is mounted to)
[05:42] <coolboy> thx
[05:43] <skon> v3l0ct: ....how exactly does that do what he asked?
[05:44] <frogzoo> v3l0ct, just 'eject' should do it normally - but it's still not 'manual'
[05:44] <v3l0ct> ahoora, i need to wear my glasses today
[05:45] <v3l0ct> sorry about that folks, need to put on my glasses
[05:45] <skon> np
[05:45] <skon> coolboy: just get automatix, forget what ubotu said about it lol
[05:45] <Bizzeh> Ng: i dont have a login
[05:45] <Bizzeh> can i give you the info and you file the bug for me?
[05:45] <frogzoo> v3l0ct, that's alright - we'll subtract it off the bill :)
[05:45] <Toadstool> jono: are you still worried about removing ubuntu-desktop ?
[05:46] <frogzoo> so noone uses raw devices to play DVDs?
[05:46] <v3l0ct> frogzoo, hehe
[05:46] <Ng> Bizzeh: it would be best if you create one and report it - the developers may well want to ask for more information
[05:46] <skon> what are DVDs?
[05:46] <jono> Toadstool, a little
[05:46] <frogzoo> skon, shiny round things
[05:46] <skon> hmm never used em
[05:46] <v3l0ct> ahoora, much better now
[05:47] <v3l0ct> damn nick autocomplete
[05:47] <ahoora> v3l0ct?
[05:47] <Toadstool> jono: afaik ubuntu-desktop is just a meta-package provided to perform smooth dist-upgrades and it seems that there's a new addon to update-manager that do it far better than with the meta-package trick
[05:47] <v3l0ct> it's the auto complete doing that, i turned it off sorry
[05:48] <skon> jono, Toadstool: yes, ubuntu-desktop can be safely removed after everything is installed
[05:48] <jono> cheers
[05:49] <ahoora> lool between 650 people choosing me ... i hope it was a lottery ;(
[05:49] <jono> will gs-afpl ever replace gs in ubuntu?
[05:49] <prem> hi all
[05:49] <skon> hi
[05:49] <prem> anybody know how to enable MMX, mplayer says "MMX2 supported but disabled"
[05:50] <Ng> prem: you'd need to recompile it. I doubt it'd be worth it though, on a decent cpu and with Xv mplayer typically uses almost no cpu anyway
[05:50] <mwe> jono: It's not GNU so I don't know
[05:51] <coolboy> anyone know some good 3D games installable thru synaptic
[05:51] <hmp_> quake2
[05:51] <AMDXP> coolboy: i just want to install GO
[05:51] <Toadstool> tuxracer :)
[05:51] <AMDXP> daikatana
[05:51] <AMDXP> j/k
[05:51] <skon> I second tuxracer
[05:52] <tristanmike> Yay on th tuxracer
[05:52] <tristanmike> *the
[05:52] <coolboy> hmp: is quake 2 free
[05:52] <trappist> the engine is free
[05:52] <hmp_> nope you need the data files
[05:52] <AMDXP> Mame roms
[05:52] <hmp_> or the demo
[05:53] <frogzoo> coolboy, hmp_ quake is free - the commercial wad's are not in the pkgs though
[05:53] <hmp_> like i said...
[05:53] <trappist> gltron and armagedtron are nice too
[05:53] <leitao> Hello, when i trying to create ssh keys, with: ssh-keygen -t DSA, i got a message saying DSA does not exist. Does anyone know what is wrong?
[05:53] <trappist> leitao: lowercase dsa
[05:53] <Bizzeh> bug filed
[05:54] <leitao> trappist : thx
[05:55] <planetcall> checking for C compiler default output file name... configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables
[05:55] <frogzoo> leitao, might need a crypto lib   libdsa or such like?
[05:55] <osfameron> w000t!  Skype sucks marginally less on Breezy than on Hoary
[05:55] <mint> anyone know of a good page for vmware tools on Ubuntu 5.10
[05:55] <mint> wiki?
[05:55] <jenda> I have some trouble with gmail & thunderbird - I received a few large email and I felt that I have no need to DL them, so I opened the web interface and deleted them - but when I try to retrieve the mail w/ thunderbird it says receiving message 1 of 6 (which means it still tries to get the ones I removed) and it seems to get stuck eventually, without getting any mail at all. Anyone have any tips as to what I could do?
[05:55] <frogzoo> mint, why vmware, not qemu?
[05:55] <coolboy> where can I find games that are not in applications-games?   installed thru synaptec
[05:56] <planetcall> I tried to reinstall C++,g++ but still getting same error
[05:56] <mint> i have vmware installed now
[05:56] <mint> thats what my ubuntu machine is on
[05:56] <Bizzeh> Ng: i just noticed nvidia offer chipset drivers for amd64 linux, ill try applying those and see if they fix anything
[05:56] <coolboy> ?
[05:56] <mint> when i change resolution to anything but 1280x1024, i get lines on the screen
[05:56] <frogzoo> coolboy, there's a backport site for the jdoom engine - that runs hexen and a couple other games as well
[05:56] <mwe> planetcall: install "build-essential"
[05:56] <trappist> mint: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/VmWare/InstallAsGuest
[05:56] <luite> planetcall: have you installed build-essential?
[05:56] <decaf> planetcall: install build-essential
[05:56] <planetcall> let me chk out buddy
[05:57] <planetcall> no its not installed
[05:57] <planetcall> should i ?
[05:57] <luite> guess so :)
[05:58] <planetcall> ok i am doing it right now
[05:58] <coolboy> where can I find games that are not in applications-games?   installed thru synaptec
[05:58] <Ng> coolboy: fire up synaptic and search for game
[05:59] <coolboy> k
[05:59] <planetcall> decaf & luite: thanks buddy
[05:59] <planetcall> mwe: u too :)
[06:00] <coolboy> Ng: what do I do when I found game?
[06:00] <Ng> coolboy: right click on the packages you are interested in and choose the mark for install option, then when you are finished selecting them, hit Apply on the toolbar
[06:01] <tomys-cdd> how do i clean the history in bash
[06:01] <mwe> planetcall: I was first :)
[06:01] <coolboy> Ng: I know how to install
[06:01] <planetcall> yeah buddy thanks u all :)
[06:01] <Ng> coolboy: then what did you mean?
[06:02] <tomys-cdd> how do i clean the history in bash
[06:02] <coolboy> Ng: but some games don't appear in apps-games
[06:02] <trappist> tomys-cdd: rm ~/.bash_history
[06:02] <coolboy> Ng: where are they to find
[06:02] <trappist> tomys-cdd: the history from the current session will persist, though
[06:02] <Toadstool> trappist: tomys-cdd: history -c works too :)
[06:02] <mwe> coolboy: search for "game" maybe
[06:02] <trappist> Toadstool: cool, never heard of that one
[06:02] <coolboy> mwe: i'll try
[06:02] <planetcall> I need a good password manager which could work with firefox in similar way as airobform does on windows. I could not find any. Anyone knows about any such app?
[06:02] <Ng> coolboy: ah, they should, but maybe they don't have icons. you can right click on a package once its installed and get a list of files it owns, look for ones in /usr/bin/ - that is what you need to run from a terminal most likely
[06:03] <coolboy> Ng: thx
[06:03] <trappist> woah, `man history` is full of great stuff
[06:04] <tomys-cdd> does it work as well in linux
[06:04] <tomys-cdd> history -c
[06:04] <tomys-cdd> or just in ubuntu
[06:04] <Toadstool> it's a quite common command
[06:04] <yanis> hello
[06:04] <yanis> how is called the gtk wifi network management app?
[06:04] <tomys-cdd> hello
[06:05] <yanis> not GTKwifi..
[06:05] <frogzoo> gtkwifi-1.09.deb
[06:05] <frogzoo>  - it's not in the repos
[06:06] <yanis> not that..
[06:06] <yanis> another one
[06:06] <trappist> dude the history man page is gonna like triple my productivity
[06:06] <yanis> maybe it 's called network selectr..
[06:06] <mint> whats the command to find out which kernel I have to match the Synaptics Linux-Header??
[06:06] <mint> it says uname-r
[06:06] <mint> not working though
[06:06] <trappist> mint: sudo apt-get install linux-headers$(uname -r)
[06:06] <trappist> mint: there's a space before the -
[06:06] <loorni> What's the problem when I can't use all of my keyboard buttons? For example: q, w, u, i...
[06:07] <fulldisclosure> hi
[06:07] <trappist> loorni: laptop?  numlock?
[06:07] <fulldisclosure> 18:01 < fulldisclosure> Converting files failed
[06:07] <Toadstool> loorni: unplugged keyboard ? :)
[06:07] <fulldisclosure> 18:01 < fulldisclosure> Writing to disc didn't start so it is still usable.
[06:07] <loorni> Toadstool, nope..
[06:07] <fulldisclosure> I get this error with serpentine when I click burn CD-audio
[06:07] <hartsantler> hi, how do i make a screensaver for ubuntu, is there a xorg config file somewhere that controls the screensavers?
[06:07] <loorni> trappist, Didn't work..
[06:08] <frogzoo> trappist, just make sure you notice where in the man page it mentions the up key
[06:08] <funkyHat> Toadstool, trappist, no, that would be u, i, o, p...
[06:08] <trappist> ah yeah
[06:08] <coolboy> Ng: i see the list of files: but no files are actually there, some folders even don't exist
[06:08] <loorni> trappist, not a laptop
[06:08] <coolboy> Ng: could it be they are installed under root acc
[06:09] <trappist> loorni: possibly you're in vi mode, in command mode?  what happens if you hit shift-a ?
[06:09] <Ng> coolboy: unlikely, was the package definitely installed?
[06:09] <trappist> loorni: or is this everywhere
[06:10] <loorni> trappist, vi mode?! shift+a nothing.
[06:10] <robotic> is there any difference between a "server" (i.e. minimal) install of ubuntu and that of debian ?
[06:11] <loorni> trappist, i'm in the login screen, graphical.
[06:11] <henk> Hi how do i stop the buttons on the panel showing the running programs from grouping together ?
[06:11] <lucasvo> is it a known bug that evolution displays colors from the calendars wrong in dapper?
[06:12] <coolboy> Ng: yes it was
[06:12] <coolboy> Ng it said so
[06:13] <coolboy> Ng: It's very strange
[06:13] <seashell11> henk: kde or gnome?
[06:13] <fulldisclosure> someone here with gnome can try serpentine and look if he have same problem as me?
[06:14] <fulldisclosure> Writing to disc didn't start so it is still usable.
[06:14] <henk> seashell11, gnome
[06:14] <zeb> hey, can someone help me
[06:14] <zeb> i really need some help
[06:15] <deFrysk> !someone
[06:15] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[06:15] <frogzoo> zeb - just leap in - don't ask
[06:15] <iantec> hmmm how come my gaim has no sounds? the sounds are enabled and it is not in mute
[06:15] <fulldisclosure> zeb: me too :-)
[06:15] <Ng> coolboy: hmm, well "dpkg -L packagename" in a terminal (you may need to quit synaptic for that to work) should give you a list of files that are installed, so unless something went wrong and removed them that should be definitive
[06:15] <zeb> ok
[06:15] <zeb> i need to mount my second hard drive
[06:15] <zeb> im new to ubuntu
[06:15] <coolboy> k
[06:15] <fulldisclosure> I have Ubuntu hoary 5.10 in PPC, Gnomebaker and Serpentine are unable to crreate audiodisk for me, both fail while converting files...
[06:15] <fulldisclosure> is a known error?
[06:16] <frogzoo> zeb - first get the h/w config right - make sure you have the slave/master jumpers set properly
[06:16] <zeb> yes, their set
[06:16] <zeb> i know from windows, i used it as my back-up drive
[06:16] <zeb> all my files are on it
[06:16] <seashell11> henk: in kde you just right click the panel and hit configure panel, in gnome I think its fairly much the same, right click hit properties or configure panel or something and with kde you just chang the group similar tasks to never
[06:16] <frogzoo> zeb - k - I take it your primary drive is master on ide channel 1 - ie hda ?
[06:17] <fulldisclosure> uh...
[06:17] <zeb> yes
[06:17] <seashell11> I can't check with gnome cause im in kde right now :-(
[06:17] <frogzoo> zeb - and the 2nd drive is on the same ide cable?
[06:17] <Bone_Down> hello all I am sure this has been asked a million times, but I have not heard. Anyone know what is the current situaiton with the ubuntu forums? and when they might be up and running again?
[06:17] <zeb> yes
[06:17] <zeb> same cable
[06:17] <coolboy> Ng: it gives the same list: but I can't find any of them, neither thru terminal
[06:17] <engla> Bone_Down: they are up again
[06:17] <engla> but the servers are heavily loadexc
[06:18] <hotczech> /hello
[06:18] <Bone_Down> oh cool, I was bummed that I could not get to them all weekend while trying to trouble shoot some issues.
[06:18] <deFrysk> !glxgears
[06:18] <ubotu> I guess glxgears is To display the FPS type "glxgears -iacknowledgethatthistoolisnotabenchmark"
[06:18] <Bone_Down> thanks for the update
[06:18] <zeb> ok
[06:18] <hotczech> /mode hello
[06:18] <fulldisclosure> can somebody take a look to serpentine?
[06:18] <fulldisclosure> please
[06:18] <zeb> i tried to set up a link with you frogzoo
[06:18] <henk> seashell11, hmm i tried that, but in gnome there is not much to change for the panel (not the grouping stuff anyway)
[06:18] <zeb> it said i wasnt registerd
[06:18] <SmasSive> Hi, I have some problems with the new Xorg in dapper, can anybody help me?
[06:18] <Bone_Down> anyone online here that has any experience with evolution and ldap?
[06:18] <frogzoo> zeb - now pastebin the results of 'sudo fdisk -l /dev/hdb'
[06:19] <zeb> ok
[06:19] <seashell11> henk: just hang on a bit, ill go into gnome and see if I can figure it out, because I know I did it
[06:19] <zeb> command not found
[06:20] <zeb> i must have typed it wrong
[06:20] <frogzoo> zeb - do you want to keep the data on the drive? what do you plan to use the drive for?
[06:20] <zeb> sorry, real noob here
[06:20] <zeb> YES
[06:20] <zeb> its all my data
[06:20] <zeb> i hate to loose it
[06:20] <SmasSive> Hi, I have some problems with the new Xorg in dapper, can anybody help me?
[06:20] <frogzoo> zeb & doze uses it as just one partition? how's it formatted, ntfs ?
[06:21] <zeb> yes
[06:21] <zeb> its NTFS
[06:21] <frogzoo> zeb well now for the bad news - linux can't write to ntfs partitions - read only I'm afraid
[06:21] <zeb> well thats fine
[06:21] <zeb> if i can get the data off
[06:21] <zeb> i can reformat it
[06:21] <frogzoo> !tell zeb about ntfs
[06:21] <zeb> i need  my data
[06:22] <frogzoo> ubotu sent you instructions for setting up ntfs under linux
[06:22] <ubotu> frogzoo: Do they come in packets of five?
[06:22] <i60> hi, has anyone used the free VMWARE player on windows to run Ubuntu? does the free player time out? because i'm sure mine did but my firend says his is free forever ???
[06:22] <zeb> ?
[06:22] <zeb> they did
[06:23] <fulldisclosure> ogra_ibook: I have an ibook too, with hoary, do you have 1 minute?
[06:23] <frogzoo> i60, the free player is ....... free!
[06:23] <seashell11> ok, im back again under gnome henk
[06:23] <trappist> free as in beer
[06:24] <zeb> ok dudes
[06:24] <zeb> what do i do
[06:24] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[06:24] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[06:24] <progrock> !pastebin
[06:24] <ubotu> I guess pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[06:24] <frogzoo> zeb read that link ^^^
[06:24] <zeb> ok
[06:24] <progrock> oh, haha.. the urls in the topic.. thats easier
[06:24] <mrpink> may anybody tell me if it is possible to interrupt memtest without any problems?
[06:24] <i60> frogzoo: Wow excellant, i reinstall when i next use XP is there a breezy version i can install here - http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/vmware the one i had was the version before breezy
[06:25] <madewokherd> stopping memtest won't hurt anything
[06:25] <mrpink> madewokherd: thx
[06:25] <coolboy> Ng: i found them
[06:25] <Yokalosh> what does it mean when i get the error: configure: error: C++ preprocessor "/lib/cpp" fails sanity check
[06:25] <seashell11> henk: there should be a little dot or something right to the left of where your window list is, right click that and hit preferences then under the behavior tab change window grouping to never
[06:25] <Yokalosh> and what do i have to do to fix it?
[06:26] <zeb> frogzoo
[06:26] <seashell11> henk: see if that does what you want it to
[06:26] <zeb> open a private chat with me
[06:26] <zeb> im still confused dude
[06:26] <decaf> madewokherd: I've never waited till it finishes. does it really finish?
[06:26] <frogzoo> sry zeb, fraid not
[06:26] <zeb> crap
[06:26] <madewokherd> it starts over when it finishes
[06:26] <zeb> ok
[06:27] <frogzoo> zeb did you read the link?
[06:27] <zeb> it says i need to download the script
[06:27] <zeb> what do i type this in
[06:27] <zeb> terminal
[06:27] <frogzoo> zeb - this link
[06:27] <frogzoo> !ntfs
[06:27] <ubotu> ntfs is, like, the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[06:27] <mint> anyone have a copy of vmware-tools.tar.gz ??
[06:27] <shindo> I can't seem to successfuly power off with Breezy, I get a [32814.631680]  Code: Bad EIP value
[06:27] <fulldisclosure> can someone please try serpentine to burn a mp3 as a CD-Audio and look if have anyporoblem?
[06:27] <mint> i cant find it anywhere online
[06:27] <zeb> i know, im there
[06:27] <shindo> any hints?
[06:27] <zeb> it says i need to download this script
[06:27] <zeb> i dont know how
[06:27] <shindo> the pc is an AMD K-6-2
[06:28] <_luckie_> does anyoen know where i can find a repository that has freenx on it...i am using hoary, but i can upgrade if need be.
[06:29] <AMDXP> _luckie_: let me check i was trying to install freenx myself
[06:29] <zeb> dangit dudes, im so confused right now
[06:29] <AMDXP> have you used freenx before
[06:29] <_luckie_> yeah
[06:29] <progrock> I'm trying to install ipw2200 drivers... but when I go to "make"... I get a bunch of errors (that appear to be in the linux headers)... so i'm guessing i did somethign wrong... http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7532
[06:29] <frogzoo> zeb, oh, there's a script  - should make it easy - just do what it says, line by line - start with 'cd
[06:29] <frogzoo> ; wget http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter'
[06:29] <coolboy> how do I play dvd's
[06:29] <frogzoo> coolboy, gxine is good...
[06:30] <seashell11> henk: did that work?
[06:30] <frogzoo> !tell coolboy about restricted
[06:30] <_luckie_> AMD_XP i had it install on another box..i used a guide that was on ubuntuforoms, which is down it looks like
[06:30] <coolboy> frogzoo: do I have to download driver?
[06:30] <tatters> whats a red box white X Top right hand of a file mean?
[06:30] <AMDXP> i use VLC media player
[06:30] <zeb> how do i use wget
[06:30] <frogzoo> coolboy, install the mp3 codecs ^^^
[06:30] <AMDXP> _luckie_: yeah that is where i got the repo info
[06:30] <coolboy> frogzoo: i've done that
[06:30] <frogzoo> coolboy, sry, u need the libdecss or whatever
[06:31] <mint> do I want the TGZ or RPM for my ubuntu 5.10 VMWare Tools?
[06:31] <frogzoo> coolboy, in the pm ubotu sent you, there should be a mention of dvds
[06:31] <Dr_Willis> i'd guess tgz mint
[06:32] <frogzoo> zeb how you getting along there?
[06:32] <henk> seashell11, ah at first i did not find what you meant.. but yes that worked ... nice thnx
[06:32] <zeb> umm
[06:32] <zeb> i got the script downloaded
[06:32] <zeb> lol
[06:32] <zeb> i feel like such a noob
[06:32] <frogzoo> zeb well that's progress :)
[06:32] <zeb> im a windows expert
[06:32] <decaf> add this for vlc with gtk2 on breezy: deb http://dot.name.tr/ubuntu-decaf/ debs/     UNOFFICIAL and experimental
[06:32] <zeb> so i wanted something different
[06:32] <AMDXP> _luckie_: i dont have it on this laptop the repo info is on my home pc
[06:32] <_luckie_> AMDXP thanks for looking
[06:33] <frogzoo> zeb - now, like it says in the doc 'sudo bash diskmounter
[06:33] <frogzoo> '
[06:33] <frogzoo> & just answer the questions
[06:33] <zeb> ok, it says all partitions are mounted
[06:33] <zeb> now how do i get to them
[06:33] <zeb> W00T
[06:34] <zeb> I SEE THEM
[06:34] <frogzoo> places -> media -> .... (hdb ?)
[06:34] <zeb> ON MY FRIGGIN DESKTOP
[06:34] <zeb> W00t W00t
[06:34] <AMDXP> _luckie_: i will try to ssh into my box at home and get it hold
[06:34] <frogzoo> zeb - what the script did was make some changes to the file /etc/fstab - might be worth a look to see what the script did
[06:34] <_luckie_> k
[06:34] <_luckie_> AMDXP: thanks
[06:34] <zeb> ok
[06:35] <Remillard> How do you force a particular driver during boot?
[06:35] <frogzoo> Remillard, settings go in -> /etc/modprobe.d/xxx/yyy
[06:35] <Edi_icr> hello
[06:36] <Remillard> frogzoo: gracias... I think my non-working ethernet is due to the wrong driver being detected... (though inserting the recemmended one hasn't worked yet either)
[06:37] <frogzoo> Remillard, check /var/log/messages for the driver load - that's where errors will appear
[06:37] <ilba7r> i am gona do a presentation on a datashow (projector) from my linux box. Do i need to install a program or make a configuration to direct the presentation to the data show or would it be done automatically
[06:38] <Edi_icr> why ubuntu 5.10 did not ask about administrator user or password at anytime?
[06:38] <frogzoo> ilba7r, from a laptop I assume?
[06:38] <AMDXP> _luckie_: no go it wont show me what i need
[06:38] <Remillard> frogzoo: well the skge driver loads fine, it just doesn't work... got this blasted Marvell Yukon Gigabit Ethernet chip on my ASUS board...
[06:38] <ilba7r> frogzoo, exactly
[06:38] <noaXess> what to use under ubuntu to run a windows application? .exe? is there a tool in the available package?
[06:38] <Remillard> frogzoo: skge WORKS in gentoo, for some reason... doesn't in ubuntu...
[06:39] <Remillard> noaXess: wine typically
[06:39] <noaXess> but wine is not in the default packagelist.. or is it?
[06:39] <mwe> Edi_icr: because it uses sudo instead of root. it's perfectly safe
[06:39] <frogzoo> Remillard, check irq settings etc from lspci - might need to be passed to driver
[06:39] <noaXess> doesnt found it..
[06:39] <frazmanw> ult for playing a DVD?
[06:39] <frogzoo> ilba7r, you'll need to set it up - this isn't for an ati card is it?
[06:40] <mwe> noaXess: wine will run _some_ .exe
[06:40] <Remillard> frogzoo: thanks, I'll check that too.. I don't think sk98lin asked for that but I might need to double check
[06:40] <frazmanw> how do I make Mplayer default for playing a DVD?
[06:40] <noaXess> mwe: yeah i know..
[06:40] <ilba7r> frogzoo, i do not use the 3d bin driver fglrx. am using the default one. and yes the card is ati
[06:40] <noaXess> i'm new in ubuntu.. is there a wine package for ubuntu or just install from source?
[06:40] <mwe> noaXess: that's the only option you have unless you wanna pay money or compile yourself
[06:41] <noaXess> oke. .)
[06:41] <noaXess> nothing pay :)
[06:41] <ilba7r> frogzoo, lol seems i will do a presentation and try to promopte linux from a window box if i failed to set it up
[06:41] <mwe> noaXess: you'll have to find alternatives for a lot of programs if you intend running linux
[06:42] <Edi_icr> mwe: but how i can log in as admin and chance my networking cababilities?
[06:42] <frogzoo> ilba7r, then you're in luck - if you don't mind using the fglrx driver it's easy - there's a tool that does this
[06:42] <zeb> ok, printer problems
[06:42] <mwe> Edi_icr: you can't
[06:42] <zeb> my printer prints, but its all white
[06:42] <frogzoo> ilba7r, gimme a sec while I track it down
[06:42] <mwe> Edi_icr: sudo -i will give you a root prompt after you logged in as your normal user
[06:42] <ilba7r> frogzoo, i installed the fglrx bin driver and i know it is bugy so i removed it
[06:42] <ilba7r> frogzoo, ok thanx
[06:42] <TheCut> anyone using rhythmbox to stream music?
[06:42] <mwe> Edi_icr: however just type sudo whatever to run whatever as root
[06:43] <noaXess> mwe: i just start with ubuntu.. and i'm really happy..
[06:43] <noaXess> :)
[06:43] <Edi_icr> mwe: ok
[06:43] <Remillard> noaXess: fortunately there are a LOT of alternatives (except maybe financial)
[06:43] <noaXess> my wlan intel 2200 54mbps card runs without problems..
[06:43] <mwe> !tell Edi_icr about rootsudo
[06:43] <Edi_icr> mwe: trying to get into wlan whit it
[06:43] <mwe> Edi_icr: get into wlan?
[06:43] <noaXess> Remillard: and allternatives for wine.. with ubuntu support?.. i'm ubuntu package?
[06:43] <Edi_icr> mwe:jep
[06:44] <zeb> its a PSC 1210, and it atcs like its printing
[06:44] <mwe> Edi_icr: what does that mean?
[06:44] <frazmanw> how do I make Mplayer default for playing a DVD?? anyone please?
[06:44] <zeb> but all pages come out blank
[06:44] <Yokalosh> hey guys how can i get the 'X11R4 or up headers and libraries' ?
[06:44] <zeb> is this a driver problem, or what
[06:44] <Remillard> noaXess: well if you want to run Windows, there's basically wine... you can pay for codeweavers wine, or cedega
[06:44] <Edi_icr> mwe: it regonize my wlan-card but i cant enable it
[06:44] <mwe> Yokalosh: X11R4 ?
[06:45] <Yokalosh> mwe: or whatever is newer, i was trying to compile something
[06:45] <zeb> plz some assistance
[06:45] <zeb> i know its prolly a newb question, but i really need help
[06:46] <noaXess> where is the default donwload page of wine? searching and found only a version of 20030709.. ?
[06:46] <ilba7r> !question
[06:46] <ubotu> ilba7r: I give up, what is it?
[06:46] <ilba7r> zeb just ask your question if someone know it he will answer
[06:46] <mwe> Yokalosh: try x11-dev and x-dev
[06:46] <zeb> ok
[06:46] <Yokalosh> mwe: will do, sheers
[06:46] <Yokalosh> *cheers
[06:46] <frogzoo> ilba7r, fireglcontrol - check it out - very straightforward
[06:46] <zeb> my printer acts like its printing but all pages come out blank
[06:46] <mwe> Yokalosh: if you're looking for a specific header apt-file search will help. you may have to install it though
[06:47] <progrock> forusm are back.. ffinally
[06:47] <ilba7r> frogzoo thanks i think i had it installed :)
[06:47] <frogzoo> ilba7r, think it only works with the fglrx drivers though...
[06:47] <mwe> progrock: hopefully they'll stay up this time
[06:47] <progrock> mwe: haha... and amybe I'll get straight As this semester
[06:47] <ilba7r> frogzoo will do the math google and man thanks again
[06:47] <zeb> ill stay on the line until someone can help, k
[06:48] <zeb> im here
[06:48] <ilba7r> zeb one way is to check if you have the right driver for it
[06:48] <mwe> progrock: yeah. I'm planning to ...
[06:48] <zeb> how do i check that
[06:48] <ilba7r> zeb check linuxprinting.org or the ubuntu forums
[06:48] <ilba7r> !printing
[06:48] <ubotu> printing is probably https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsPrinters or http://www.linuxprinting.org
[06:48] <ilba7r> or ubotu link
[06:50] <zeb> yeah, i have the right driver
[06:50] <zeb> according to that link
[06:50] <zeb> and it acts like its printing
[06:50] <zeb> just all pages are blank
[06:50] <Yokalosh> mwe: x11-dev didn't do anything and apt-file didn't turn anything up but i got x-dev
[06:51] <mvdk> Hi, I'm having a problem booting off a usb hard drive
[06:51] <ilba7r> zeb using the gnome menu try to print a test page
[06:51] <Yokalosh> mwe: how would i get the xtest libraries too?
[06:51] <zeb> ok
[06:51] <ccc_> i'm using a radeon 9600 pro with fglrx, should (or could, even) i add renderaccel true to my xorg.conf to utilize the video card further?
[06:52] <marcus^> hi. does anyone know why i only can listen at mp3s for 3 seconds before XMMS jumps to the next song?
[06:52] <mvdk> What happens is, it gives me a shell in the initramfs due to it not being able to mount the root device
[06:52] <mvdk> I can look for the device here, and it doesn't work at all
[06:52] <mvdk> But if I unplug it, and plug it back in, it works
[06:52] <AMDXP> marcus^: i never had that happen before
[06:52] <zeb> sorry guys, still blank
[06:53] <mvdk> then I just say "exec init root=/dev/sda1 ro", and everything works
[06:53] <marcus^> AMDXP: it happened with me on two computers.
[06:53] <ilba7r> zeb where di you get the driver for your printer
[06:53] <marcus^> does it have anything to say that the mp3s is copied from a cd?
[06:53] <mvdk> My question is, is it possible to reset the device through sysfs or something?
[06:53] <ilba7r> zeb if i were you i would reinstall the driver file
[06:53] <zeb> umm, it was on ubuntu i think
[06:53] <zeb> where can i get a driver for it
[06:54] <zeb> i know the CD i have wont work as its for windows and apple
[06:54] <ilba7r> zeb before that try shutting down the printer and starting it again
[06:54] <ilba7r> than try to print a test page
[06:54] <zeb> ok
[06:54] <ilba7r> zeb and the drivers are in linuxprinting.org
[06:54] <ilba7r> zeb and before that just check the ubuntu howto that ubotu directed you to
[06:55] <mvdk> Is anyone hearing me?
[06:55] <zeb> i turned it off and back on
[06:55] <ilba7r> zeb i am afraid i got to go so good luck
[06:55] <zeb> ok, thx dude
[06:55] <ilba7r> !tell zeb about printing
[06:55] <zeb> l8er
[06:55] <ilba7r> zeb follow the ubuntu howto will help you set it up
[06:56] <stephan__> hi
[06:56] <dooglus> which package provides a listening VNC viewer, so that remote VNC servers can send me their display?
[06:57] <stephan__> i have a strange problem with drag and drop... as soon as i do this with files in xfe, nautilus, konqueror... the system freezes... sound still plays but no reaction to keyboard, mouse etc
[06:58] <emmeatte> hi
[06:59] <folki> Can anybody give me advice please...What codecs (or libraries) I need to install if I want to play video (.avi) but I can only listen music but I can not see that?
[06:59] <zeb> whats the wget command for wine
[06:59] <tidalwav1> Hi, all...can anyone give me any clue about how to get the Ubuntu installer to recognize an ITE IT8211 ATAPI/IDE controller?
[06:59] <tidalwav1> The installation always fails because the installer can't mount the CD drives.
[06:59] <stephan__> any ideas anyone? i already checked all relevent log files...
[07:00] <C-O-L-T> if I have kubuntu but I have installed gnome can I delete kde?
[07:00] <tidalwav1> colt: go for it :P
[07:00] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  i wouldent bother.
[07:00] <tidalwav1> anyone? installer unable to mount CD drives?
[07:01] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: ok than
[07:01] <nubuntu> can onyone please explain to me how to get this patch to work: http://wiki.opendarwin.org/index.php/Darwine:build      ?
[07:01] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: both are working fine now
[07:01] <yanis> hello
[07:01] <frazmanw> Can anyone suggest a linux printer (that I can setup using network Ethernet cable) that will work well in Ubuntu? I want good color printing including basic photos
[07:01] <yanis> is there any tool in gnome to check the battery state?
[07:01] <Dr_Willis> C-O-L-T,  i mix and match kde and gnome apps for diffent tasks. both have some very good tools
[07:01] <mvdk> From what I understand, frazmanw, any number of HPs work well.  Check linuxprinting.org
[07:01] <tristanmike> frazmanw, my HP Deskjet 3650 works just peachy
[07:02] <Dr_Willis> frazmanw,  your 'budget' will also be a limiting factor
[07:02] <C-O-L-T> Dr_Willis: I like the gnome style, but I like a lot KDE programs
[07:02] <emmeatte> hi i have a problem with install hydrogen help me...
[07:02] <emmeatte> italian?
[07:02] <tristanmike> yanis, as in for a portable? Right click any panel, add to panel, select Battery Charge Monitor
[07:02] <frazmanw> I ask about the printer here, because my brother multi-function mfc-3820cn will not opperate no matter what I try!
[07:03] <mvdk> Many multifunctions won't...
[07:03] <yanis> thanks tristanmike
[07:03] <mvdk> This MFC-3820cn, have you looked for it on linuxprinting.org?
[07:03] <Dr_Willis> my HP1200c scanner/printer works good. :P but its a cheap peice of $@#*$%
[07:04] <mvdk> For Brothers in general, you're up the creek without a paddle, as far as I understand...
[07:05] <tristanmike> frazmanw, you probably want to stay away from Lexmark's too
[07:05] <tristanmike> dang!
[07:06] <Seveas> tristanmike, type faster ;)
[07:06] <tristanmike> lol, and I took typing in school and everything
[07:06] <mlehrer> is it possible to use emacs key bindings in entry fields in all ubuntu/gnome apps?
[07:07] <cemmel> does anyone know of a program that provides extra window management functionality (e.g., the ability to tile, cascade, and center open windows)?
[07:08] <glacious> what is a good way to manage your wireless connection(s) in gnome?
[07:08] <mlehrer> glacious: ubuntu includes a utility for wireless doesn't it?
[07:08] <glacious> we have a large ESS here, with many AP's with the same SSID, different channels.
[07:08] <glacious> i want a utility like with XP that will pick the strongest AP of that SSID and connect
[07:09] <glacious> mlehrer: yeah, but it's pretty primative
[07:09] <glacious> just lists every AP that it finds
[07:09] <glacious> even if there are like 5 AP's with the same name, just on different channels.  it won't just pick the strongest one to show.  nor does it show signal strength at all
[07:10] <mlehrer> i see.  you would think that at least adding signal strength to the list would be easy enough
[07:10] <glacious> mlehrer: *nod*
[07:10] <noaXess> sorr.. dummy ubuntu question.. how install rpm package? first install rpm or is there an other solution with synaptic?
[07:11] <trappist> noaXess: the short answer is that you don't install rpms
[07:11] <trappist> you install .debs
[07:11] <frazmanw> Is there any way to print from Linux to A windows computer using samba? but use the WINDOWS side driver? as my printer is not supported in linux??
[07:11] <topyli> glacious: networkmanager should do it on dapper
[07:11] <noaXess> trappist: aha.. ok :)
[07:11] <noaXess> trappist: or sources.. hm..
[07:11] <noaXess> i try to install vmware workstation..
[07:12] <topyli> glacious: http://www.gnome.org/projects/NetworkManager/
[07:12] <mlehrer> noaXess: there was a utility called "alien" that could do that for debian
[07:12] <trappist> ubuntu has alien
[07:12] <LxSedan> hey guys i'm trying to install ubuntu but it goes to a screen where the colours start fading and just hangs there
[07:13] <decaf> LxSedan: is it a laptop?
[07:13] <noaXess> mlehrer: you mean install rpm's or install vmware workstation
[07:13] <mlehrer> noaXess: alien allows you to install rpms
[07:13] <LxSedan> decaf, yes it is
[07:13] <planetcall> alien converts rpm to debs
[07:13] <topyli> with varying success
[07:14] <mlehrer> frazmanw: that might be tricky - if there isn't a linux driver then how could linux print to it?  can you pick a similar printer?
[07:14] <decaf> LxSedan: there are boot parameters about framebuffer or specific laptops
[07:14] <LxSedan> hmmmm
[07:14] <LxSedan> totally new to linux, first time install, would you be able to point me in the right direction
[07:15] <mvdk> Uhm, has anyone given any further thought to my earlier question?
[07:15] <frazmanw> mlehrer, I have looked for similar printers however thisa is a network model, and the others are not. When I chose a similar printer, the screen on the printer says receiving data, then goes blank. but no printing happens
[07:15] <haris> hi
[07:15] <haris> noobs
[07:15] <haris> :)
[07:15] <haris> linux sux :[
[07:15] <mvdk> frazmanw: Is this the Brother you're talking about, frazman?
[07:15] <frazmanw> mvdk, yes
[07:16] <haris> when i install this windows my computer brokes
[07:16] <frazmanw> brother mfc-3820cn
[07:16] <haris> :(((((((((((((((((((((
[07:16] <haris> :(((((((((((((((((((((
[07:16] <mvdk> haris: Do try to keep your comments to things we can do somethign about
[07:16] <topyli> haris: please just ask a question
[07:16] <mvdk> s/somethign/something/gc
[07:16] <tristanmike> haris, try to install Linux or more appropriately, install Ubuntu
[07:17] <mvdk> And of course, you won't get anywhere quickly calling us all noobs :)
[07:17] <mvdk> frazman: just looking for that on linuxprinting.org
[07:17] <LxSedan> anyone point me to info about the framebuffer to get it irhgt for a laptop to work for install
[07:17] <folki>  Can anybody give me advice please...What codecs (or libraries) I need to install if I want to play video (.avi) but I can only listen music but I can not see that?
[07:18] <tristanmike> !tell folki about w32codecs
[07:18] <topyli> folki: w32codecs
[07:18] <topyli> !w32codecs
[07:18] <ubotu> w32codecs is, like, totally, a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[07:18] <noaXess> mlehrer: aha.. ok.. hm.. just search vmware as deb package.
[07:18] <mlehrer> noaXess: that is even better
[07:19] <folki> I have installed w32codecs...majority of videos I can play but I have one film, which I can not
[07:19] <tristanmike> folki, you may be out of luck, have you tried vlc?
[07:19] <noaXess> mlehrer: or install it from source.. i think thi will be the way
[07:19] <topyli> folki: yes, there are such formats
[07:20] <mvdk> frazman: I think you're out of luck
[07:20] <mlehrer> folki: what stderr messages do you get?  it should say what kind of media it is
[07:21] <mlehrer> then try to work on a google search to see if anyone has made it work
[07:21] <[dEvIL-bOY] > anyone uses lineakd?
[07:21] <folki> I said that it is .avi
[07:21] <mvdk> I just did, mlehrer
[07:21] <metalsand> Can someone please give me a good sources.list, my repositries are all messed up and I keep getting errors when I reload
[07:21] <mvdk> No proof positive, either way
[07:21] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ?? lineakd
[07:21] <mlehrer> folki: .avi is just a container format - what codecs is it using?
[07:21] <tristanmike> folki, yeah, but the .avi was made with a particular codec, and it's that codec you're shooting for
[07:21] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !lineakd
[07:21] <ubotu> [dEvIL-bOY] : My cat's name is Mittens!
[07:21] <Dr_Willis> ok - given that you have 2 'ubuntu' systems , i install a lot of packages on system 1, now i want to easially make system 2 also have the identical packages installed..    im sure theres some tool/way to make this easier...
[07:21] <J-_> can anyone help me install java runtime, pm me possibly.. having a a hard time... =(
[07:21] <mvdk> Try it with the other brother stuff, if it doesn't work, well, you may need reverse engineering skills
[07:21] <mlehrer> folki: you will want the stderr output, it should complain about unsupported video format
[07:22] <metalsand> Can someone please give me a good sources.list, my repositries are all messed up and I keep getting errors when I reload
[07:22] <Dr_Willis> copied over the /var/apt/cache dir then did a dpkg -i * in it.. on system 2 . but thats not very 'nice' :P and a little flakey
[07:22] <tristanmike> J-_, what's the trouble?
[07:22] <tristanmike> metalsand, check out the sources.list generator
[07:22] <metalsand> tristanmike: Where can I find that?
[07:22] <tristanmike> !tell metalsand about sources.list
[07:22] <mvdk> I don't suppose anyone has given my earlier question any thought?
[07:22] <martin__> im having probs with myth tv when i go to change the password it errors the install errered half way through is there anyway i can compleatly remove it from the system i have tried apt-get remove but it doesent compleatly remove it
[07:22] <tristanmike> metalsand, ubotu just told you
[07:23] <mvdk> Any other fora I should seek?
[07:23] <coolboy> how can I set IP printer in ubuntu 5.10
[07:23] <topyli> metalsand: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/6047
[07:23] <mvdk> coolboy: what kind of network printer
[07:23] <mvdk> You'll need to be more specific
[07:23] <coolboy> mvdk: it's a usb printer
[07:23] <Dr_Willis> coolboy,   i was able to do it witht he gnome printer config tool. I think i had to select 'hpdirect' or somthing like that.
[07:23] <[dEvIL-bOY] > topyli, you are syaing if i copy that onto the source list file it will be ok?
[07:24] <mvdk> Oh, is this an HP printer?
[07:24] <folki> I use vcl and now it is OK...thank u all for your help
[07:24] <Dr_Willis> coolboy, i did mine for a HP networked pronter.
[07:24] <mvdk> Not a network printer, then, coolboy?
[07:24] <[dEvIL-bOY] > topyli, yes no maybe?
[07:24] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : yes. btw, your nick sucks because it starts with an [
[07:24] <coolboy> mvdk: nope but it's connected to wireless with an apple
[07:24] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok cheers for the complement
[07:25] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : it's inconvenient to type
[07:25] <mvdk> Oh, is that 802.11 or bluetooth or something else?
[07:25] <martin__> im having probs with myth tv when i go to change the password it errors the install errered half way through is there anyway i can compleatly remove it from the system i have tried apt-get remove but it doesent compleatly remove it
[07:25] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[07:25] <glacious> ok back.
[07:26] <glacious> topyli:  it wants to install bind9?  won't this mess with my school's network?
[07:26] <metalsand> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[07:26] <metalsand> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[07:26] <metalsand> Why am I getting those errors when I apt-get update
[07:27] <tristanmike> metalsand, close synaptic
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cool it worked
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > now
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > next question
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> another process is using it
[07:27] <J-_> i've tried installing java runtime, i change directory, use sudo apt-get install sun-j2re1.5, and it says Reading package lists... Done
[07:27] <J-_> Building dependency tree... Done
[07:27] <J-_> Package sun-j2re1.5 is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[07:27] <J-_> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[07:27] <J-_> is only available from another source
[07:27] <J-_> E: Package sun-j2re1.5 has no installation candidate
[07:27] <J-_> ...?
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how the hell do i network to ubunut systems?
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> !java
[07:27] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[07:27] <glacious> why would a wireless network manager want to install bind 9?
[07:27] <topyli> glacious: i have no idea. i guess it won't if your school's network is setup even adequately
[07:27] <decaf> metalsand: synaptic is open, or another apt-get running
[07:27] <[dEvIL-bOY] > !network
[07:27] <ubotu> This refers to a group of interconnected computers. The computers must be capable of transferring data to form a true network--you can't just weld a bunch of computers together.
[07:27] <metalsand> tristanmike: You're a lifesaver, I read that but didn't even realize I hd it open -.-
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> [dEvIL-bOY] ,  define what you mean by 'network'
[07:27] <Dr_Willis> [dEvIL-bOY] ,  if they can ping each other they are networked. :P
[07:27] <tristanmike> metalsand, you have no idea how many people, myself included, get that error :)
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i mean connect them to a router or hub( router in this case)
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and share files and folders
[07:28] <tristanmike> metalsand, without realizing it that it
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i have no problems networking with windows machines
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> file shareing - is done with samba - to work with window machines.
[07:28] <J-_> i've been at the java wiki since last night, still can't get it running
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but no luck with other linux systems
[07:28] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : are there windows boxen in the network?
[07:28] <Dr_Willis> or use ssh and the 'winscp' program.  if you want a little more security
[07:28] <metalsand> I'm trying to find a package 855resolution, to fix my resolution and with my old sources.list I was unable to find it.
[07:28] <[dEvIL-bOY] > well there are now
[07:28] <metalsand> Hopefully after this update it'll be somewhere :x
[07:29] <coolboy> how do i print test page
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but when i have the 2 linux systems no
[07:29] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : then you share files and printers with samba
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ermmm
[07:29] <Dr_Willis> be sure to give your linux users, samba passwords with 'smbpasswd -a username' :P
[07:29] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : when you're all linux you might as well use nfs, but samba will work just as well
[07:29] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i can't tho
[07:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > do i need to create a user for networking?
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> Ill confess - i also tend to use samba for linux->linux stuff.. gnome and kde both make it easy to track down samba shares.
[07:30] <[dEvIL-bOY] > coz i done that and still no luck
[07:30] <metalsand> When I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users.
[07:30] <Dr_Willis> if you want to access the users home dirs. you need to make a sambapassed for the users.. or make some custome samba shares.
[07:30] <Terminus> NFS gave me a 3x increase in throughput over SMB. just thought i'd mention that. :)
[07:30] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : you don't create extra users
[07:31] <Dr_Willis> Terminus,  :P
[07:31] <[dEvIL-bOY] > how does it work then ?
[07:31] <Dempa> hey, i have a question. Just gave my fiance a ubuntu livecd since her win install broke, but the wireless connection doesn't work from scratch. Any chance there's an way to fix this without installing ubuntu?
[07:31] <metalsand> When I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users. Like closing nickserv's window.
[07:31] <progrock> Do you guys recommend upgarding to firefox 1.5... or think its a better idea to jsut wait for the next ubuntu release?
[07:31] <glacious> progrock: sure why not? =)
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> http://www.faqs.org/docs/samba/toc.html   - 'using samba' book online. :p
[07:32] <Dr_Willis> progrock,  i plan on waiting.
[07:32] <[dEvIL-bOY] > cool
[07:32] <[dEvIL-bOY] > gotta get reading
[07:32] <topyli> [dEvIL-bOY] : share some directories on one box, browse them on another. for security, use share-level passwords
[07:32] <progrock> glacious, i dn.. maybe stability issues
[07:32] <glacious> progrock: true
[07:32] <_Iznogood_> http://www.fxcentre.co.uk/uk/news.asp?ukts+20060119_26148_267184 Read this! Here Mark Shuttleworth (or the journalist) claims that  Google has developed its own version of Ubuntu, called Goobuntu? WTF. Can this be true?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> Lol
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> google is working on a googlepc
[07:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > ok
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> but Id hope they have a better name then that.
[07:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > next question
[07:33] <topyli> Dr_Willis: didn't google just deny that?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  i cant keep track
[07:33] <[dEvIL-bOY] > i was trying to map some multimedia buttons
[07:33] <glacious> is there a way to make it so your laptop touchpad does not respond to clicks on the pad itself?  only the buttons?
[07:33] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  i though they mentioned it in the CES show.
[07:33] <glacious> this is way too sensitive
[07:33] <_Iznogood_> but the point here sems to be that Mark himself is saying this
[07:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > but somehow i managed to F4$% every single multimedia button
[07:34] <coolboy> how can I look into my windows NTFS partition?
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> !ntfs
[07:34] <ubotu> ntfs is probably the filesystem used in Windows 2000 and newer; to automatically mount your NTFS partition: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AutomaticallyMountMSWindowsPartitions, or writing to ntfs is risky and only experimental. Reading is OK
[07:34] <Fade> is there documentation that describes how ubuntu lays out it's alsa configuration?
[07:34] <rob^^^> how do you find out what package owns what file?
[07:34] <topyli> Dr_Willis: http://news.com.com/2061-10812_3-6016821.html - you never know what the latest info is tomorrow though :)
[07:34] <[dEvIL-bOY] > and the strange thing is that the volume up/down and mute used to work
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  yep.
[07:34] <Fade> 'cause it doesn't look like the stock alsa config.
[07:34] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  seen $200 pc's with Lindows.. so a $200 google pc withubuntu - would be trivial
[07:35] <metalsand> When I'm using irssi, how do I close tabs with users. Like closing nickserv's window.
[07:35] <Dr_Willis> metalsand,  irssi homepage has some tutorial guides
[07:35] <Fade>  /window kill
[07:35] <topyli> Dr_Willis: yep
[07:35] <metalsand> Fade: Thanks
[07:35] <Fade> n'p
[07:36] <ilba7r> any one getting results of the order 1 767 FPS using glxgears. Is that reasonable?
[07:36] <topyli> Dr_Willis: i'm not sure if a $200 pc won't be much good before you add RAM, change sound and video cards and such, for another $100 :)
[07:36] <rob^^^> Dr_Willis: a new dell only runs $250 in the US
[07:37] <topyli> Dr_Willis: uhh. try to parse that, and you'll see what i wanted to say :)
[07:37] <tpdd> can anyone recomend a network maping package for linux with the same basic features as MS viso?
[07:37] <metalsand> tpdd: Have you tried nmap?
[07:37] <ilba7r> also having troubles with the fglrx driver and the gdmflexiserver (new login program) just want to know if this is just specific to me.
[07:38] <AMDXP> brb
[07:38] <noaXess> what package to install, that i have basic make tools and the kernel source?
[07:39] <_adam> anyone able to get vpnc working with vpnc.0.3.3
[07:39] <dooglus> noaXess: "build-essential" and "linux-source"
[07:40] <Dr_Willis> rob^^^,  i got a nice $500 laptop  heh
[07:41] <rob^^^> Dr: $325
[07:41] <rob^^^> :)
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> topyli,  that $200 pc would do what my wife needs. :P web surfing and porn.. err.. email..
[07:41] <rob^^^> Dr: if you need another machine you can have my Dell Outlet script
[07:41] <rob^^^> ;)
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> rob^^^,  heh - i dont need any more box's around here.. trying to clean out these old ones.
[07:41] <rob^^^> that's why I haven't bought anything off the outlet
[07:41] <Dr_Willis> i dont lose files.. i lose fileservers...
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> 'now ehere did i put that old Pent 4 system...."
[07:42] <rob^^^> we were 2 desktops/2 laptops and now we are 1/2
[07:42] <noaXess> dooglus: thanks a lot.. its hard to be new in ubuntu.. :)
[07:42] <topyli> Dr_Willis: probably yes. i have a duron 900 with 256 or RAM. i write and use the net in its various forms quite happily. i could use some more RAM though
[07:42] <rob^^^> and soon we may be 1/2 with the desktop being replaced by a server
[07:42] <AMDXP> topyli: RAM is pretty cheap these days
[07:42] <rob^^^> I don't use a machine that has 256
[07:42] <rob^^^> I won't even touch one
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> my old imac has like 256mb ram
[07:42] <Dr_Willis> :P
[07:42] <dooglus> noaXess: it's usually a lot busier here; I've not seen an easy question like yours go unanswered for so long before
[07:43] <Traum> I just switched from Suse to Kubuntu.  Where do i find gui for starting/stopping services like ftp, or samba?
[07:43] <intracath> Algum de Curitiba?
[07:43] <topyli> Dr_Willis: and of course, this box runs a few services but there are only two clients :)
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> imagine sayign that 10 years ago.
[07:43] <topyli> AMDXP: yes it is
[07:43] <Dr_Willis> 'only' 128mb of ram
[07:43] <AMDXP> I have 256 and i just bought another 256 stick
[07:43] <AMDXP> =p
[07:43] <dooglus> Traum: #kubuntu probably knows more about the KDE GUIs than here.
[07:43] <rob^^^> I remember people were like "64 megs on a 166? Your _never_ going to need that much ram"
[07:43] <noaXess> dooglus: no probs.. i just learning..
[07:44] <AMDXP> rob: sounds like a bill gates moment
[07:44] <dooglus> AMDXP: Bill Gates' famous quote was about 640Kb, wasn't it?
[07:44] <topyli> Dr_Willis: my lady has a totally jurassic box with 128M ram, i think it's a 350mhz pentium2. she runs win98 :)
[07:44] <AMDXP> yes
[07:44] <noaXess> is use fc4 for my servers.. gsx servers.. and have testet fc4 on my acer laptop too.. but always the wlan problem..
[07:44] <noaXess> with ubuntu.. no problem .)
[07:44] <tpdd> metalsand i have looked at nmap but i really need something the will export to html in a similar fashion to viso and save to a viso file extension
[07:44] <ppd> back again
[07:44] <tpdd> ist company policy
[07:45] <AMDXP> i think this lappy i am on has 128M
[07:45] <rob^^^> ok so here is the dumb question of the hour: how do you tell what package owns a given file or directory?
[07:45] <rob^^^> I knew,  I forgot, and for the life of me I can't remember
[07:45] <dooglus> rob^^^: installed package, or not installed?
[07:45] <rob^^^> dooglus: installed
[07:45] <dooglus> rob^^^: dpkg -S
[07:45] <rob^^^> but if you know a way to do uninstalled I'd be interested as well
[07:45] <dooglus> rob^^^: if it's not installed, get 'apt-file' and that will tell you
[07:45] <rob^^^> aha, thanks
[07:45] <chovy_> i have a live cd which has ubuntu.iso on it, but I can't seem to boot into it.
[07:46] <rob^^^> for some reason I was thinking it was dpkg -q
[07:46] <zeb> i need help with my printer
[07:46] <dooglus> rob^^^: you know you can "man dpkg" to see the flags, right?
[07:46] <zeb> it acts like its printing but pages come out blank
[07:46] <dooglus> rob^^^:               dpkg -S | --search filename-search-pattern ...
[07:46] <dooglus>                   Search for a filename from installed packages.
[07:46] <gaz-> zeb, got ink?
[07:46] <topyli> chovy_: perhaps you burned it wrong. you don't make a data cd with the iso file in it, you make a cd from the contents of the iso _image_.
[07:46] <zeb> im pretty sure
[07:47] <zeb> it printed under windows fine
[07:47] <dooglus> zeb: did you look on the back?  maybe it's printing on the other side
[07:47] <glacious> how do i change all my themes like GTK, icon themes, etc.?
[07:47] <rob^^^> dooglus: I checked and didn't see it
[07:47] <rob^^^> must have been a case of fridge-blindness
[07:47] <zeb> no, its not printing at all
[07:47] <dooglus> rob^^^: after doing "man dpkg" type "/search" and hit return
[07:48] <topyli> rob^^^: rpm has the -q switch :)
[07:48] <dooglus> rob^^^: then hit 'n' a few times 'til it finds it
[07:48] <zeb> but the copy function works great
[07:48] <topyli> glacious: try the menu: system -> prefs -> themes
[07:49] <glacious> topyli: thats not for GTK and icons tho is it?
[07:49] <zeb> it shows up on device manager
[07:49] <zeb> USB HP PSC 1210
[07:49] <topyli> glacious: are you using gnome?
[07:50] <glacious> topyli: yes
[07:50] <gnudreamer> it's amazingly difficult to get a hold on video, webcam, scanners!
[07:50] <topyli> glacious: then yes, you can change everything there
[07:50] <glacious> topyli: ok, thank you.
[07:50] <topyli> glacious: just explore the "theme details" stuff
[07:50] <gnudreamer> I can't get chown on dev/video
[07:51] <shekhar> can someone help me? i cannot login as regular user anymore... gdm cannot write an authorisation... help!
[07:52] <miki> does anybody know if emule runs properly through crossover?
[07:53] <topyli> miki: i do know that amule runs perfectly without it
[07:53] <zeb> can anyone here help me
[07:53] <Ribs> miki: Are the Linux clients no good for you?
[07:53] <_jason> ubotu: tell shekhar about xhangs
[07:53] <miki> yep, but i've got problem with packages amule depends on
[07:53] <ubuntutestrun> hello tuvok
[07:53] <tuvok302> hey
[07:53] <miki> I've tried 2 days to work this out
[07:53] <t_uk2> im having problems installing ubuntu
[07:54] <topyli> miki: i bet my pants that's nothing compared to the pain you will get with windows apps :)
[07:54] <ubuntutestrun> hows vulcan? :P
[07:54] <topyli> miki: let's just fix amule
[07:54] <glacious> topyli: theres an 'install theme' button.  what kind of theme is it looking for?  like what kind of file?  a GDM theme?  GTK theme file?
[07:54] <miki> have you read last coverage on wine? some of the apps are faster 30% than on windows
[07:54] <gnudreamer> the pAin of getting the kernel to recognize webcams and capture cards is great!
[07:55] <shekhar> _jason, ubotu told me to do rm .{X,ICE}authority after logging into a terminal... is that the exact syntax?
[07:55] <topyli> miki: (which i know nothing about but i guess someone does)
[07:55] <gnudreamer> recognize and work with
[07:55] <noaXess> is it simle to rebuild the kernel with the newest gcc 4.0.2.. my kernel is build with 3.4.5, have 2.6.12-10-386
[07:55] <topyli> glacious: gtk, metacity, icon themes
[07:55] <ubuntutestrun> are there more repositories then cipher for multi media ( breezy )\
[07:55] <tuvok302> does anyone here have a Intel536EP modem working with 5.1
[07:55] <miki> ok, tryin again apt-get install amule ;/
[07:55] <gnudreamer> linux is a great adventure
[07:55] <t_uk2> it boots up the cd but when i press enter it just hangs
[07:55] <_jason> shekhar: yes
[07:55] <ubuntutestrun> miki , try limewire
[07:56] <ubuntutestrun> its easy install, see website...
[07:56] <mwe> noaXess: why would you need that?
[07:56] <quacker> Hello, all.  My io/dma settings in /etc/modules and hdparm.conf are being completely ignored and all my IDE controllers are initializing with no features set, then I get IDE errors returned by hdparm when I call it manually from a root shell.  Also, neither ALSA nor OSS are producing any sound althought they are both installed.  If any of you are *cluefull* and have suggestionsm, please help.  (Guesses are welcome too if you're humb
[07:56] <quacker> le enough to say outright tthat you're just guessing).  Kthnxpls.
[07:56] <t_uk2> anyone got any ideas
[07:56] <miki> i know why amule doesn't work. I need new version with kad, which is supported only on debian
[07:56] <shekhar> _jason, any idea?
[07:56] <ubuntutestrun> is there an easier way to install multi media apps for ubuntu
[07:56] <noaXess> mwe: i try to install vmware workstation 5, and the isntaller say that curent gcc 4.0.2 is installed, but the kernel is build with 3.4.5..
[07:57] <t_uk2> please
[07:57] <ubuntutestrun> like , maybe an stand alone mplayer....with everything build in...
[07:57] <noaXess> mwe: just rerun the vmware installer with pointing to gcc 3.4.5 but.. haven't gcc 3.4.5 installed
[07:57] <mwe> noaXess: install gcc3.4
[07:57] <quacker> holy quacamole!  add X-chat to the list of things needing fixing too!
[07:57] <ubuntutestrun> apt-get install gcc3.4
[07:57] <shekhar> _jason, what does that do?
[07:57] <WarriorSlayer> hy guys, anyone can tell me which file i have to edit to disable some modules to be loaded?
[07:57] <mwe> noaXess: install it
[07:57] <noaXess> mwe: can two versions of gcc be installed=
[07:57] <noaXess> ?
[07:57] <mwe> noaXess: no need to rebuild the kernel
[07:57] <mwe> noaXess: sure
[07:57] <miki> limewire's out. I need program for both windows or linux, to download interchangeably
[07:57] <quacker> (I saw my first post, echo back to the local UI ABOVE my nickname and all chopped up too)
[07:58] <_jason> shekhar: removes .Xauthority and .ICEauthority files
[07:58] <shekhar> _jason, ok here goes
[07:58] <ubuntutestrun> use bittorrent?
[07:58] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, sudo gedit /etc/modules
[07:58] <WarriorSlayer> quacker thanks :] 
[07:58] <noaXess> mwe: ok.. thx
[07:58] <topyli> miki: why don't you just install the ubuntu package?
[07:58] <t_uk2> it boots up the cd but when i press enter it just hangs
[07:58] <mwe> noaXess: yw
[07:58] <miki> I didn't find any
[07:59] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, but that does not include ALL modules your system uses -- some are loaded from other *.conf
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> quacker man, in that file only have some lines
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> quacker well
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> so let me explain u
[07:59] <t_uk2> come on
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> i wanna to disable the bttv module
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> bt878 to be precise
[07:59] <ubuntutestrun> is there an add repositorie website for ubuntu?
[07:59] <WarriorSlayer> is my capture card
[07:59] <tuvok302> manybody here got a Intel536EP drive to install on 5.10 ?
[08:00] <ubuntutestrun> warriorslayer - take it out of the pc?
[08:00] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, I don't have much time -- I only came on because to repeat a question that I've been asking for days with no answer, just in case this is the time of day when someone who may know comes on
[08:00] <t_uk2> hi everyone is anyone free to help me
[08:00] <WarriorSlayer> ubuntutestrun didn't tryed yet
[08:00] <WarriorSlayer> because i use it in windows
[08:00] <topyli> miki: seems to be in the universe repository. you probably don't have it enabled. launch synaptic and enable it
[08:01] <WarriorSlayer> but in linux i don't want to use
[08:01] <mwe> t_uk2: It's not just booting with a blank screen? I had that problem but solved it by disabling framebuffer
[08:01] <miki> topyli: give it up, I do know what I did
[08:01] <ubuntutestrun> warriorslayer, why not use it< with tvtime >
[08:01] <topyli> miki: i'm sure you do. i don't
[08:01] <WarriorSlayer> ubuntutestrun because when the module loads
[08:01] <WarriorSlayer> the load crashes
[08:01] <ubuntutestrun> ah\
[08:01] <ubuntutestrun> i see
[08:01] <WarriorSlayer> i think the card don't run or something
[08:02] <gnudreamer> or it might not be configured correctly
[08:02] <topyli> miki: did you enable the universe repository, refresh, and then search for amule, and fail to find it?
[08:02] <WarriorSlayer> gnudreamer yep
[08:02] <mwe> t_uk2: ?
[08:02] <metalsand> Hi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work
[08:02] <gnudreamer> im having the same prolems
[08:02] <metalsand> but Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.
[08:02] <WarriorSlayer> but i think is more easy to unninstall by now because i'm only trying to run kubuntu for the first time
[08:02] <t_uk2> i tried that
[08:03] <mwe> HiddenFly: yes. what did you try?
[08:03] <mwe> t_uk2: hmm
[08:03] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, video capture is 'unsupported' and highly frustrating -- if you installed a TV viewer application and it didn't pull the right drivers or ask in debconf, then you're pretty much SOL unless you have an older ATI or Nvidia and enough clue to customize your whole X installlation  (many capture drivers are incompatible with ubuntu because it uses the the X.org's implementation of X11R6)
[08:03] <metalsand> In Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.
[08:03] <miki> It's matter of libraries: That version which amule reqires isn't prepared for ubuntu yet
[08:03] <gnudreamer> I hang out here a lot ...main concerns are usually capture cards, wireless, and xorg
[08:03] <WarriorSlayer> quacker so where i disable the module?
[08:03] <mwe> t_uk2: maybe some other boot option like disabling apic. don't you even get an error? Are you sure the cd is ok?
[08:03] <gnudreamer> oh yeah and resricted formats
[08:03] <jalvarezrom> Hello All!
[08:03] <WarriorSlayer> or getting the card out of my pc gonna be all right?
[08:04] <quacker> building X from source (or even separate packaged binary components) is a nightmare
[08:04] <topyli> miki: i just simulated an amule install, and it went fine
[08:04] <AMDXP> jalvarezrom: hello there
[08:04] <t_uk2> i have tried noapic and i have tried other cds
[08:04] <noaXess> is this the default kernel-source path: /usr/src/linux ?
[08:04] <gnudreamer> warriorslayer what card do you use?
[08:04] <topyli> miki: are you trying to install another version? not the one that comes with ubuntu?
[08:04] <miki> yes
[08:04] <WarriorSlayer> gnudreamer pixelview mpeg2
[08:04] <mwe> t_uk2: adn you don't get any errors or anything?
[08:04] <metalsand> Hi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work
[08:04] <WarriorSlayer> bt878 module
[08:04] <metalsand> but Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.
[08:04] <topyli> miki: why is that?
[08:04] <miki> that built-in does'nt support kad
[08:04] <metalsand> In Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.
[08:04] <t_uk2> i get a flashing cursor at the top right
[08:04] <topyli> miki: ah
[08:04] <miki> It's all about kademilia
[08:04] <gnudreamer> i think i have seen that one in the lists of what bttv supports
[08:04] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, you're not listening, so I'm done 'helping'.  I'm trying to explain the scope of what you want to do -- it is not a matter of 'comment out module' -- it's often very nasty.
[08:05] <mwe> t_uk2: that's all? no messages before that?
[08:05] <noaXess> hav installed linux-source and find now this /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[08:05] <noaXess> 
[08:05] <t_uk2> no
[08:05] <noaXess> need i extract it myself?
[08:05] <WarriorSlayer> quacker i understand what u've said
[08:05] <miki> But at all after changin sources.list I cannot install even previous version
[08:05] <quacker> Now, does anyone know how to force DMA on when hdparm is being ignored at boot?
[08:05] <mwe> t_uk2: what kind of computer is this?
[08:05] <WarriorSlayer> but i just want to know the file that i have to comment to disable that module to be loaded
[08:05] <t_uk2> well it is an old comp athlon 200xp 128 ram
[08:05] <topyli> miki: so, if it's available for debian, enable the debian unstable (or ubuntu dapper) source (deb-src) repository and build a package with a couple of commands
[08:06] <topyli> with apt
[08:06] <quacker> !lart WarriorSlayer
[08:06] <AMDXP> i thought an old comp was like 500MHz lol
[08:06] <t_uk2> 2000 xp soz
[08:06] <t_uk2> lol
[08:06] <mwe> t_uk2: should be enough to install. I don't know
[08:06] <quacker> WarriorSlayer, care mentally disabled?!?
[08:06] <miki> Yes, I did that way but 1 library (don't remember which) isn't present and availible for ubuntu
[08:06] <WarriorSlayer> quacker srry man
[08:06] <gnudreamer> amdxp i was thinking my i686 is outdated
[08:06] <miki> It's well known on usenet
[08:06] <t_uk2> i have already installed ubuntu before and suse
[08:07] <quacker> If the answer is yes -- get someome to help you in person.  I answered that question twice, yet you just keep asking it.  Next time /IGNORE
[08:07] <AMDXP> gnudreamer: wow then my pc is caveman
[08:07] <WarriorSlayer> quacker but just answer one question to me plz? if i put out the card of my pc, the module will still load or it'll load unproperly and be skiped?
[08:07] <topyli> miki: can you build it from Sid sources then?
[08:07] <mwe> t_uk2: weird then
[08:07] <gnudreamer> yeah but can you get it to do what you want it to amdxp?
[08:07] <t_uk2> yeah nobody seems to know what to do
[08:07] <miki> I don't know anything about Sid sources
[08:07] <quacker> Ok, that's the last time I try to answer any question until I edit my ignore script again
[08:07] <gnudreamer> warrior you need to load the mod yourelf
[08:08] <AMDXP> gnudreamer: of course that is why i am still on it and here my desktop is a AMD Sempron
[08:08] <topyli> miki: debian unstable sources
[08:08] <metalsand> Hi: I'm trying to get a PCMCIA wireless card to work
[08:08] <metalsand> but Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for it.
[08:08] <metalsand> In Device Mananger it says info.linux.driver    orinoco_cs.
[08:08] <gnudreamer> than it's isnt dated is it?
[08:08] <miki> topyli: I already give up. I don't want amule anymore.
[08:08] <miki> Thx a lot for Your help
[08:08] <miki> gave up*
[08:08] <topyli> miki: ok then :)
[08:09] <ubuntutestrun> miki did you google for it?
[08:09] <miki> For a long time
[08:09] <miki> google's my best friend
[08:09] <t_uk2> i really wanted ubuntu cos i dont get suse
[08:09] <topyli> miki: emule + wine will probably give you more grief though
[08:09] <Chris_Tucker> how does one unrar??
[08:09] <gnudreamer> lsmod | grep bttv see if its loaded
[08:09] <quacker> miki consider yourself 'gifted' then
[08:09] <miki> I'm thinking of running it interchangeably
[08:09] <ubuntutestrun> ah, ok...
[08:09] <topyli> t_uk2: xubuntu will probably run on that box quite nicely
[08:09] <quacker> Some people seem google-challenged
[08:10] <quacker> =P
[08:10] <mwe> t_uk2: but he can't get the installer up
[08:10] <mwe> topyli: ^
[08:10] <topyli> oh
[08:10] <krach-aran> google ??? what's that :P
[08:10] <topyli> t_uk2: install a minimal debian woody, then upgrade to xubuntu?
[08:11] <shekhar> _jason, that command didn't work to get me logged in
[08:11] <quad_> Where do I find the linux kernel headers in ubuntu?
[08:11] <quacker> miki, there are great community-authored howtos on (1.) installing Java and (2.) installing azureus Java source package
[08:11] <quad_> Need the dest. for installation of Cisco VPN client.
[08:11] <shekhar> _jason, rm.{X,ICE}authority removed the files but i still couldn't login
[08:11] <tatters> E: apache: subprocess post-removal script returned error exit status 139 <--does anyone know how to fix this?
[08:11] <t_uk2> i wouldnt have a clue how to do that
[08:11] <mwe> topyli: Have you tried that? It sounds like it could work
[08:11] <slavik> I followed the sub java manual install guide
[08:11] <topyli> mwe: no i haven't but i figure it could work pretty easily
[08:12] <slavik> it seemed to work :)
[08:12] <miki> Oh, I've been told about azerus
[08:12] <quacker> Azureus is a VERY NICE bittorrent client that also talks to other P2P networks like e-mule
[08:12] <AMDXP> quaker: didnt they used to have a sticky in the forums for installing azureus
[08:12] <quacker> wiki.ubuntu.com is your friend
[08:12] <quad_> Linux kernel headers... where??
[08:12] <mwe> topyli: yeah it sounds sane enough
[08:12] <noaXess> where are the kernel-source files, have installed linux-source from 2.6.12
[08:12] <miki> Is there as much files as on ed2k and kad?
[08:12] <slavik> quacker: talking to edonkey network (emule is a windows clent) can be dangerous ...
[08:12] <quacker> AMD_XP,  wiki.ubuntu.com is your friend -- it's right there now
[08:12] <slavik> miki: yes there are
[08:12] <ubuntutestrun> the versio for emule is called amule
[08:12] <topyli> mwe: after all, woody is old enough, so not much of debian legacy should be left on the box
[08:12] <jenda> I have some trouble with gmail & thunderbird - I received a few large email and I felt that I have no need to DL them, so I opened the web interface and deleted them - but when I try to retrieve the mail w/ thunderbird it says receiving message 1 of 6 (which means it still tries to get the ones I removed) and it seems to get stuck eventually, without getting any mail at all. Anyone have any tips as to what I could do?
[08:12] <AMDXP> wow my nick is jacked up hold on
[08:12] <miki> Ok, so i'm a try it
[08:13] <AMDXP> oh ok
[08:13] <AMDXP> its ok
[08:13] <t_uk2> how would i do that
[08:13] <nekron> i can't play my mp3 using amarok.. i changed the engines but nothing :{
[08:13] <slavik> jenda: is the mail marked as read?
[08:13] <slavik> jenda: tell thunderbird not to retrieve mail that is read
[08:13] <metalsand> test.
[08:13] <quacker> slavik, well at least azureus doesn't run as root and is highly customizeable (if you have 'advanced skills' you can set global security options in your Java Runtime Environment too)
[08:14] <mwe> t_uk2: what kind of internet connection?
[08:14] <topyli> t_uk2: do a woody base install. edit sources.list to point to ubuntu breezy sources. then apt-get update, upgrade, dist-upgrade, and install xubuntu-desktop
[08:14] <jenda> slavik: I'll check that, but still, why does it get stuck, they aren't _that_ big...
[08:14] <slavik> quacker: I like it, because it has a built in tracker :)
[08:14] <t_uk2> that sounds really hard lol
[08:14] <quacker> topyli, I though mixing Debian and Ubuntu would break Linux... ???
[08:14] <shekhar> _jason, can you help further?
[08:14] <t_uk2> im only a newbie ;)
[08:14] <topyli> quacker: you think right
[08:14] <slavik> jenda: maybe the connections gets timed out for some reason and then can't get restarted ...
[08:14] <jenda> maybe...
[08:14] <mwe> t_uk2: but it's not hard. come here for help if you need to
[08:15] <frogzoo> any tips on how to install the gxmms applet onto the taskbar? I've installed the gxmms pkg, now what?
[08:15] <ubuntutestrun> miki?
[08:15] <ubuntutestrun> still around?
[08:15] <topyli> quacker: however, woody is very old and nothing will be left of it after the upgrade
[08:15] <slavik> jenda: it's the only reason I can come up ... could be a problem with gmail or thuinderbird or any software in between.
[08:15] <quacker> topyli what is the exceptional reason for recommending woody base here (just curious)?
[08:15] <miki> ubuntutestrun, yep
[08:15] <t_uk2> what do i get first
[08:15] <topyli> quacker: yes ^
[08:15] <nekron> anyone uses amarok?
[08:15] <mwe> topyli: but why not sarge?
[08:15] <Pygi> gnomefreak:ping
[08:15] <topyli> mwe: mwe: not old enough
[08:15] <slavik> I like the debian-stable guarantee :)
[08:15] <AMDXP> gnome: welcome back
[08:16] <ubuntutestrun> i will try to install amule, if it works i will leet you know
[08:16] <quacker> topyli, so are you sayint that you go up to when they froze Sarge at the point when it became 'binary-incompatible' with Breezy?
[08:16] <slavik> !amarok
[08:16] <ubotu> somebody said amarok was a music player for Linux and Unix with an intuitive interface. See http://amarok.kde.org ; amaroK's features: http://amarok.kde.org/content/view/51/1/
[08:16] <Chris_Tucker> how does one unrar a file?
[08:16] <mwe> topyli: not old enough? you some things would stick around?
[08:16] <topyli> mwe: with sarge yes
[08:16] <plett> frogzoo: right click on taskbar, "add to panel"
[08:16] <Hobble_> Chris_Tucker: unrar x file.rar
[08:16] <slavik> nekron: do you have a problem with amarok?
[08:16] <mwe> topyli: maybe so
[08:16] <frogzoo> plett, yep, but the gxmms applet's not there....
[08:16] <nekron> slavik: si, i can't play :~
[08:16] <metalsand> Can someone help me with getting my screen resolution to work? I've tried EVERY step in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto and CANNOT get it to work.
[08:16] <topyli> quacker: no version has ever had a package as old as woody packages
[08:16] <miki> ubuntutestrun, ok, thx
[08:16] <slavik> OMG!!! chris tucker is using ubuntu!!! ^^
[08:17] <topyli> quacker: that's the guarantee :)
[08:17] <slavik> nekron: it just doesn't play the file without giving an error?
[08:17] <AMDXP> gnomefreak: you ok?
[08:17] <quacker> LOL
[08:17] <shekhar> can someone help me, i cannot login to ubuntu, says gdm cannot write authorisation file, i am totally locked out except if i login as root
[08:17] <plett> frogzoo: odd. it is on my machine
[08:17] <t_uk2> mwe so i got to download debian woody, can u give me a link for that lol
[08:17] <t_uk2> soz
[08:17] <BrickMaker> in koepete i'm trying to view some can cam.. getting error that i don't have jasper
[08:17] <mwe> t_uk2: debian.org
[08:17] <frogzoo> plett, wierd - I missed it b4 lo - k, thx
[08:18] <t_uk2> im on it but i cant find woody
[08:18] <slavik> shekhar: have you tried logging in as root and then relogging as a user in command line?
[08:18] <soundray> shekhar, sounds like your root partition is full.
[08:18] <mwe> t_uk2: I wonder why you can't bring up the installer if you did before
[08:18] <slavik> nekron: it just doesn't play the file without giving an error?
[08:18] <gnomefreak> is the package mozilla-mail thunderbird/mozilla browser?
[08:18] <t_uk2> yeah i know
[08:18] <metalsand> Can someone help me with getting my screen resolution to work? I've tried EVERY step in: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto and CANNOT get it to work.
[08:19] <topyli> t_uk2: hm. they probably don't advertise woody cd's very actively these days :)
[08:19] <quacker> topyli, what about installing  an older copy of Sarge with XFree86 X11R6, then changing to Breezy repos, then doing apt-get dist-upgrade with all XFree86 packages pinned in dselect/aptitude/synaptic ?
[08:19] <shekhar> soundray, it was, but i cleared lots of stuff and still have the problem
[08:19] <slavik> gnomefreak: mozilla usually includes a mail client ...
[08:19] <shekhar> slavik, how do i do that?
[08:19] <shekhar> slavik, i am logged in as root
[08:19] <gnomefreak> slavik: ty
[08:19] <plett> frogzoo: there must be a memory leak in gxmms, i have to restart it once a week to stop it using up all my ram
[08:19] <ubuntutestrun> miki : no luck
[08:19] <nekron> slavik: yes
[08:19] <ubuntutestrun> :{
[08:19] <noaXess> any idea? installed linux-source.. now where are this files? /usr/src/linux/include? there is nothing
[08:19] <owner> t_uk2 why dont you just use the vesa drivers
[08:19] <slavik> shekhar: log in as root, then kill gnome/kde to get to command line, log out, log in as the user and start the command line.
[08:19] <nekron> slavik: change for the next music.. but in xmms i play normal
[08:19] <t_uk2> what
[08:19] <owner> the xorg vesa drivers
[08:20] <topyli> quacker: no x. just the base install
[08:20] <owner> they work on all cards
[08:20] <slavik> nekron: could be that it doesn't find the library to play your media file ...
[08:20] <miki> ubuntutestrun, as I said, give up, save nerves
[08:20] <shekhar> slavik, i can do that, problem is that i cannot login to gnome directly as user
[08:20] <metalsand> owner: How do I change to vesa drivers
[08:20] <topyli> quacker: oh, i see, you want xfree86
[08:20] <t_uk2> i havent got a clue what u are on about
[08:20] <miki> azureus looks nice
[08:20] <slavik> shekhar: someone suggested that your root partition is full, see if it is ...
[08:20] <topyli> quacker: won't work, breezy X clients will depend on xorg
[08:20] <metalsand> owner: I've used a live CD and my resolution worked perfectly, but with Ubuntu something fails and I cannot adjust my resolution
[08:20] <zecrazytux> hey
[08:20] <phimic> hello all
[08:20] <frogzoo> plett, now just need to find a spare 1/2 inch to fit the applet :)
[08:21] <zecrazytux> how can i change my breezy for a dapper drake ? what "name" in the sources.list, please ?
[08:21] <Pygi> gnomefreak:ping
[08:21] <ubuntutestrun> miki
[08:21] <Pygi> !dapper
[08:21] <ubotu> from memory, dapper is The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[08:21] <miki> yep?
[08:21] <shekhar> slavik, i have cleared 50 mb from my root partition and still no luck :(
[08:21] <slavik> guys, is there a way to get the OSX bar thing without gDesklets?
[08:21] <metalsand> owner: How do I change to vesa drivers
[08:21] <metalsand> owner: I've used a live CD and my resolution worked perfectly, but with Ubuntu something fails and I cannot adjust my resolution
[08:21] <shekhar> slavik, i can login as user from cl
[08:21] <phimic> where can i find the Xorg 7.0 release?
[08:21] <slavik> shekhar: hmm ...
[08:21] <plett> frogzoo: your panel is that full? :)
[08:21] <t_uk2> i cant find woody, i know i will download the wrong one
[08:21] <slavik> shekhar: then what I wanted to suggest before is to reinstall gdm ...
[08:22] <ubuntutestrun> miki, accept dcc?
[08:22] <slavik> apt-get reinstall
[08:22] <shekhar> slavik, sudo apt-get reinstall gdm ?
[08:22] <slavik> shekhar: what's the error again?
[08:22] <miki> preffer mail
[08:22] <slavik> shekhar: that would be it ... I think
[08:22] <frogzoo> plett, it's pretty busy - both of them :D
[08:22] <ubuntutestrun> miki : hmm, you dont know dcc, right
[08:22] <plett> frogzoo: i still prefer xmms instead of rhythmbox or amarok. and especilly instead of totem
[08:22] <slavik> gimmie the full error, I want to try google
[08:22] <soundray> shekhar, 'sudo apt-get --reinstall install gdm'
[08:22] <slavik> !forumsdown
[08:22] <ubotu> ubuntuforums are moving to a new server and should be back up at about 23/1/2006 15:00 UTC (10am US EST)
[08:22] <quacker> topyli, I also want my *#%^ing DMA channels to work.   Do you know how to do that?
[08:23] <frogzoo> plett, I agree - xmms is very nice
[08:23] <quacker> ubotu, tell me about Xfree86
[08:23] <shekhar> slavik soundray : re-installing gdm...
[08:23] <ubuntutestrun> ok, here's the file for amule : http://akurashy.com/ubuntu/amule-2.1.0_2.1.0-1_i386.deb
[08:23] <Pygi> how can I fix non working gnome taskbar? :-P
[08:23] <xbox_sky> hi, I just installed unrar non free trough a debian file but it doesnt work too well, any ideas or what rep i'm missing?
[08:23] <kinagi> Hey. Uh, I'm trying to install a winamp rpm. And I've already converted it to a .deb And then I did the whole dpkg crap. It says it's set up..but..what exactly do I do to use it?
[08:23] <soundray> shekhar, have you got space on root?
[08:23] <zecrazytux> well dapper drake is like the "testing" version of debian ?
[08:23] <ubuntutestrun> miki ; seen url?
[08:23] <xbox_sky> UNRAR 2.71 freeware      Copyright (c) 1993-2000 Eugene Roshal
[08:23] <owner> kinagi isnt winamp alpha
[08:23] <xbox_sky> old or new build ^??
[08:23] <shekhar> soundray, yes, i cleared space
[08:23] <kinagi> Uh, I assume so, owner./
[08:23] <soundray> shekhar, how about tmp?
[08:23] <miki> ubuntutestrun, yep
[08:24] <ubuntutestrun> ok
[08:24] <ubuntutestrun> :)
[08:24] <ubuntutestrun> download an save it somewhere...
[08:24] <shekhar> soundray, what do you mean?
[08:24] <ubuntutestrun> good luck
[08:24] <miki> last try
[08:24] <soundray> shekhar, 'df | grep tmp' -- how much space?
[08:24] <Wibble-> hey - trying to install nvidia drivers I get "NVRM: isr request failed".  Anyone got any clues what might be wrong?
[08:25] <kinagi> Hey. Uh, I'm trying to install a winamp rpm. And I've already converted it to a .deb And then I did the whole dpkg crap. It says it's set up..but..what exactly do I do to use it?
[08:25] <shekhar> soundray, tmpfs                   777876         0    777876   0% /dev/shm
[08:25] <shekhar> tmpfs                   777876     12588    765288   2% /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-386/volatile
[08:25] <soundray> shekhar, that's fine then.
[08:25] <shekhar> yep
[08:25] <quad_> Where do I find the linux kernel headers in ubuntu??
[08:25] <slavik> Wibble-: http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=46590
[08:25] <shekhar> soundray slavik : thanks for your help, i'll be right back when i test if the gdm re-install worked
[08:25] <metalsand> Can I edit my xorg.conf with a new driver?
[08:25] <metalsand> Vesa works
[08:26] <slavik> shekhar: gl :)
[08:26] <kinagi> Of course, first time the place is active, no one will respond to me.
[08:26] <metalsand> but it's using i810.
[08:26] <soundray> shekhar, okay, good luck -- I may be unresponsive at times.
[08:26] <slavik> metalsand: you need to install the driver first ...
[08:26] <Wibble-> thanks slavik
[08:26] <metalsand> slavik: Isn't vesa installed by default?
[08:26] <quad_> Can anybody help me?
[08:26] <ompaul> !anyone
[08:26] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[08:27] <Pygi> com'on how to fix gnome taskbar? :-P
[08:27] <plett> kinagi: just install xmms. it looks and feels very similar to winamp
[08:27] <quad_> Should be a rather simple question
[08:27] <soundray> quad_, the packages are called linux-headers-*
[08:28] <slavik> metalsand: I'd guess so
[08:28] <johndo> I can't get amarok to build a collection of mp3's over a sambamount
[08:28] <slavik> metalsand: I thought you wanted some other driver
[08:28] <quad_> soundray, but I need to find the distination for them. An readme says it should be somewhere around /usr/src/linux-* but they are not?!
[08:28] <slavik> quad_: maybe you don't have them?
[08:29] <soundray> quad_, have you installed the package?
[08:29] <metalsand> slavik: I do
[08:29] <ubuntutestrun> miki, did you get it installed?
[08:29] <quad_> not manually no...
[08:29] <slavik> metalsand: so, you want to change the driver?
[08:29] <metalsand> slavik: I want my resolution to work, and the driver I'm using is a piece of shit.
[08:29] <quad_> i should do so?
[08:29] <metalsand> slavik: Yes
[08:29] <TQuid> Hi folks, I'm needing header files for nis, but there doesn't seem to be an nis-devel package. Where would I find the needful stuff?
[08:29] <soundray> quad_, what's the problem you are actually trying to solve?
[08:29] <slavik> you need to edit the config file then :)
[08:29] <quad_> soundray, apt-get install linux-headers-*
[08:30] <soundray> quad_, what's the problem you are actually trying to solve?
[08:30] <slavik> metalsand: you want to switch back to vesa?
[08:30] <quad_> soundray, it is an VPN client install file, asking for the destination.
[08:30] <metalsand> slavik: I've never used vesa, but that's what I want to use because I know my resolution works in vesa.
[08:30] <ompaul> Pygi, try >>gnome-panel<< and let us know what happens
[08:30] <slavik> metalsand: in the config file, find the area for the video
[08:30] <metalsand> slavik: Do I just simply set vesa as the Driver: in xorg.conf?
[08:30] <slavik> then change the driver line
[08:30] <slavik> yes
[08:30] <slavik> that is my understanding ...
[08:30] <noaXess> somebody any idea? where is the default linux-source path?
[08:31] <slavik> I would back up the config file just in case
[08:31] <Pygi> ompaul: well, gnome-panel is already running :)
[08:31] <slavik> noaXess: have you tried the wiki? the answer might be there
[08:31] <soundray> quad_, installing an Ubuntu package?
[08:31] <quad_> soundray, no - how do you meen?
[08:31] <noaXess> slavik: wiki on ubuntu.com.. no not yet
[08:32] <shekhar> slavik and soundray: thanks for your help, i fixed the problem!
[08:32] <slavik> yes, that wiki
[08:32] <ompaul> Pygi, so what is wrong with it then?
[08:32] <shekhar> slavik and soundray :)
[08:32] <slavik> :D
[08:32] <soundray> quad_, you seem to want a VPN client on your machine. Are you installing from an Ubuntu package, or from some other source?
[08:32] <slavik> the reinstall did it?
[08:32] <soundray> Well done shekhar.
[08:32] <Melechorion> hi
[08:33] <slavik> linux and windows aren't that different after all ^^
[08:33] <quad_> soundray, In that case, no. I DL'ed a tarball from a site, and now I am installing it, by running a file in it, called vpn_install
[08:33] <Melechorion> I've got a problem with my nVidia Sound driver. The Kernel header is installed and gcc-3.4 & g++-3.4 too. whats wrong? http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/1502
[08:34] <gnomefreak> quad_: that works?
[08:34] <soundray> quad_, what's the name of the software you are trying to install?
[08:34] <slavik> Melechorion: simple, cc is not aliased to gcc :)
[08:34] <noaXess> aha..
[08:34] <quad_> soundray, Cisco VPN Client
[08:34] <pixelfairy> anyone here use firestarter?
[08:34] <ubuntutestrun> why is there not one single package for all multi media needs?
[08:34] <ubuntutestrun> would be much cooler!
[08:34] <pixelfairy> tried it, and couldnt edit policy, even trying to run it as root
[08:34] <FliesLikeALap> quad_,  i'm having probs with that too
[08:34] <noaXess> slavik: is it normal.. that install linux.source over synaptic only download the source.. not extract it?
[08:35] <slavik> ubuntutestrun: in the OSS community, you have the power to create such a package :)
[08:35] <pixelfairy> ubuntutestrun: you could download the all-blahblah from mplayerhq.hu
[08:35] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell ubuntutestrun about easysource
[08:35] <soundray> quad_, any particular reason why you want Cisco instead of a package that has been tried and tested with Ubuntu?
[08:35] <Melechorion> slavik: how can I do it?
[08:35] <xbox_sky> ugh firestarter..........
[08:35] <ubuntutestrun> yeah where is easy source?
[08:35] <pixelfairy> xbox_sky: so you tried it too?
[08:35] <soundray> !easysource
[08:35] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[08:35] <slavik> noaXess: I would expect the extraction unless you told it to download only
[08:35] <gnomefreak> ubuntutestrun: read the pm ubotu sent you
[08:35] <Pygi> ompaul: sorry, system froze :/
[08:35] <ubuntutestrun> ah
[08:35] <ubuntutestrun> yes i know now!
[08:35] <Pygi> gnomefreak: you alive? :p
[08:35] <slavik> Melechorion: hold on, going to look up the man page for alias :)
[08:36] <quad_> soundray, just picked the one that came reccomended by my university techstaff.
[08:36] <pixelfairy> for some reason my roomates comp started freezing when that ran
[08:36] <ubuntutestrun> but still its the cipher repository\
[08:36] <pixelfairy> and seems to have gone away since she took it off
[08:36] <xbox_sky> pixelfairy, yeah man, I can't say I like it either... I had to KILL it in order to shut it down, despite my settings
[08:36] <FliesLikeALap> yeah quad i can't get mine to install on the latest ubuntu kernel
[08:36] <ubuntutestrun> wich is overloaded as it is..
[08:36] <ubuntutestrun> did you know that?
[08:36] <miki> ubuntutestrun, $amule ; (...) Fatal Error: Mismatch between the program and library build versions detected.
[08:36] <ompaul> Pygi, is it okay now?
[08:36] <xbox_sky> portforward killed my connection.......nowdays i'm running guarddog or no GUI fw at all
[08:36] <ubuntutestrun> miki, not nice
[08:36] <Pygi> ompaul: no :/
[08:36] <pixelfairy> soooo, do i make a iptalbes script, or is there a better gui fw?
[08:36] <quad_> soundray, http://kortlink.dk/2cf9, FliesLikeABrick, oh... same prob. as me??
[08:36] <gnomefreak> ubuntutestrun: seveas repo is also a multimedia heaven
[08:37] <pixelfairy> i dont really want to teach an end user all about tcp/ip and iptables
[08:37] <noaXess> slavik: normaly i do not activate the option to download only.. hm...
[08:37] <FliesLikeALap> yeah quad mine worked until i upgraded my kernel a month ago
[08:37] <ubuntutestrun> seveas, ok cool
[08:37] <slavik> Melechorion: http://www.die.net/doc/linux/man/man1/alias.1.html
[08:37] <pixelfairy> ubuntutestrun: theres easyubuntu in the works, you should help test it
[08:37] <pixelfairy> its a script to do all that
[08:37] <ifiroth> hi
[08:37] <Melechorion> thx
[08:37] <slavik> Melechorion: alias cc='gcc'
[08:37] <slavik> hat should work
[08:37] <quad_> I just upgraded today... but, I seem to have problems just installing though.
[08:37] <ompaul> Pygi, so hit print screen and paste the screenshot in paste.ubuntu-nl.org and then maybe I can have some idea of what is bugging you
[08:37] <newuser> i have a 20GB ext drive,usb, it will show up in file browser for a few seconds then it is gone, any ideas?
[08:37] <holycow> does anyone know how to run a .jnlp file in ubuntu?  i thought a web runtime was supposed to automaticall startup for that, no?
[08:37] <ubuntutestrun> miki , got amule up and running
[08:37] <slavik> noaXess: then it could be that the package says to download the stuff only ...
[08:37] <quad_> FliesLikeABrick, I just upgraded today... but, I seem to have problems just installing though.
[08:37] <Pygi> well, the lower taskbar is not showing which apps are running :)
[08:38] <miguel_> hola
[08:38] <christianmortal> hello all
[08:38] <slavik> newuser: bad USB connection?
[08:38] <christianmortal> im new to linux and id love some help with my wifi
[08:38] <christianmortal> can anyone help
[08:38] <metalsand> Great. THat didn't work
[08:38] <slavik> christianmortal: do you know what 'ndiswrapper' is?
[08:38] <BrickMaker> in koepete i'm trying to view some can cam.. getting error that i don't have jasper
[08:38] <metalsand> It just made my screen all pixalated and fuzzy
[08:38] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; yes what is it?
[08:38] <christianmortal> yep ive installed it
[08:38] <Pygi> ompaul: you understand? :P
[08:38] <pixelfairy> christianmortal: did you check the wifi and ndiswrapper at http://wiki.ubuntu.org
[08:38] <metalsand> Is there anyone that can ACTUALLY get my screen resolution to work?
[08:38] <soundray> quad_, if this software needs the kernel headers, you have to 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[08:38] <metalsand> I don't think it's possible.
[08:38] <slavik> christianmortal: hold on
[08:39] <christianmortal> ok
[08:39] <pixelfairy> oops
[08:39] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; what card type?
[08:39] <varsendagger> hey are there ways to tune up gnome to make it run faster?
[08:39] <metalsand> I dunno why it works on everything but Ubuntu....
[08:39] <ifiroth> i'm new in Ubuntu, can someone tell me about some good website ?
[08:39] <gnomefreak> !fixres
[08:39] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[08:39] <slavik> christianmortal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToSetUpNdiswrapper?highlight=%28ndiswrapper%29
[08:39] <peter__> ndiswrapper is a package that allows you to run windows drivers for network cards
[08:39] <pixelfairy> christianmortal: https://wiki.ubuntu.com
[08:39] <metalsand> gnomefreak: I went through EVERY step in that guide
[08:39] <ompaul> Pygi, exit go to a terminal and do this "killall nautilus"
[08:39] <christianmortal> its a ralink RT2500
[08:39] <metalsand> gnomefreak: I don't know if I did something incorrect, but none of those options worked.
[08:39] <pixelfairy> they have a special page for that one
[08:39] <ubuntutestrun> miki : what version of ubuntu have you got?
[08:40] <quad_> soundray, It seems according to my pkg manager, that the pkg is installed. And is placed at /usr/include/linux - can that be the right one??
[08:40] <jenda> Hmm... my Thunderbird still attempts to download 6 messages and gets stuck, even though there are only two in my inbox... no messages in the archive are marked unread, and thunderbird is set only to scoop the inbox. It's obviously remembering the number, not checking it. Is there a way to "clear" it's memory? (slavik)
[08:40] <ubuntutestrun> miki : i got it running on breezy right now
[08:40] <christianmortal> newest stable
[08:40] <theSamo> keren re-compilation guide please
[08:40] <slavik> christianmortal: follow the guide on the page I gave you, it's the best I can do atm ...
[08:40] <BrickMaker> i'm trying to view cam on kopete i'm getting error some thing like jasper
[08:40] <gnomefreak> metalsand: did you run through dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg?
[08:40] <peter__> I have an ralink 2500 and it is working perfectly under breezy badger ubuntu
[08:40] <metalsand> gnomefreak: No.
[08:40] <soundray> quad_, to find out where a package puts its files, do 'dpkg -L packagename'
[08:40] <theSamo> kernel^
[08:40] <metalsand> gnomefreak: You mean the first option?
[08:40] <metalsand> gnomefreak: Yes, I did that. Nothing
[08:40] <slavik> jenda: I have no clue ...
[08:41] <gnomefreak> metalsand: use sudo and do that set the res at the levels you would like to use/have to use
[08:41] <christianmortal> it ran under the cd live but under install it does not connect
[08:41] <feistel> hi
[08:41] <slavik> jenda: I'd try the thunderbird/mozilla channel ...
[08:41] <FliesLikeALap> soundray,  mine errs on compilation of the cisco ipset module
[08:41] <slavik> hello
[08:41] <feistel> how I can install a GTK 2 theme?
[08:41] <BrickMaker> aight.. i think nobody experience wtih Kopete
[08:41] <noaXess> slavik: synaptic download the linux-source .deb file and extract the .tar.bz2 file into /usr/src...
[08:41] <christianmortal> hello
[08:41] <jenda> slavik: OK :)
[08:41] <metalsand> gnomefreak: I don't get it.. "and do that", what is that?
[08:41] <FliesLikeALap> bah well i'l go back to it on my own
[08:41] <FliesLikeALap> i'm in class now so meh
[08:41] <gnomefreak> feistel: synaptic
[08:41] <slavik> feistel: download the tar.gz and then use the theme manager to install it
[08:41] <christianmortal> so what next
[08:41] <Fragging> feistel: system -> preferences -> theme
[08:42] <peter__> I just got AUtomatix loaded, and it installed Ndiswrapper as well, with a gui
[08:42] <slavik> noaXess: is that dir fine with you?
[08:42] <gnomefreak> meta type sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg and go through each step carfully.
[08:42] <soundray> FliesLikeALap, quad_, always better to use Ubuntu packaged software.
[08:42] <slavik> peter__: if you use the default ubuntu installation, then ndiswrapper should be installed automatically
[08:42] <noaXess> slavik: i think so.. i think i need extract it myself..
[08:42] <christianmortal> ok then its installed
[08:43] <noaXess> slavik: like explained in wiki :)
[08:43] <hartsantler> has anybody tried ubuntu64bit, is it much faster than 32bit, would python be any faster?
[08:43] <slavik> noaXess: you can always do that ^^
[08:43] <christianmortal> i can call it via bah
[08:43] <christianmortal> bash
[08:43] <FliesLikeALap> soundray,  will a ubuntu packaged vpn client be compatible with my school's infrastructure
[08:43] <christianmortal> sorry
[08:43] <bleaked> hello, i am a debian user, and am helping a friend go linux.  he installed kubuntu.  i know in deb there are various branches (stable/testing/unstable) -- does this apply to ubuntu as well?  like if he wants more recent software, is there another set of reps?
[08:43] <slavik> noaXess: can you give me the link to the wiki page?
[08:43] <pixelfairy> hartsantler: it wouldnt, except for doing 64bit math
[08:43] <feistel> Fragging: I need install from console
[08:43] <pixelfairy> or playing with >4gigs of ram
[08:43] <feistel> I don't have a gnome desktop
[08:43] <soundray> FliesLikeALap, depends on which client you choose. Check with 'apt-cache show packagename'
[08:43] <slavik> FliesLikeALap: if your school's vpn is  standard, then probably
[08:43] <Fragging> feistel: sorry, then I can't help you
[08:43] <FliesLikeALap> k soundray  i'll look into it later
[08:44] <gnomefreak> feistel: what desktop do you have?
[08:44] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; what card type ? pcmcia , usb, ?
[08:44] <_luiz> i can't get my sound to work
[08:44] <feistel> gnomefreak: KDE
[08:44] <mwe> hartsantler: also I hear people having problems with multimedia and having no java or flash plugin
[08:44] <christianmortal> im still a little confused as how to install the driver for my card under for ndiswrapper
[08:44] <feistel> slavik: where I can find a theme installer?
[08:44] <gnomefreak> feistel: use adept or synaptic
[08:44] <war-totem> _luiz: try typing esd in a console
[08:44] <slavik> mwe: java does not come by default
[08:44] <Fragging> feistel: maybe untar the tar.gz the theme came in and place the contents in your ~/.themes ? If I'm correct, not sure....
[08:44] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; what card type ? pcmcia , usb, ?
[08:44] <soundray> hartsantler, 64bit is worth it if you have applications that are limited by memory throughput.
[08:44] <christianmortal> pcmcia
[08:45] <_luiz> even if i'm using KDE?
[08:45] <christianmortal> belkin
[08:45] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; brand? and does it light up ?
[08:45] <war-totem> _luiz: yea
[08:45] <feistel> gnomefreak: adept and synaptic is for .deb packages
[08:45] <feistel> I need a theme installer, not a package installer
[08:45] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; at boot time of ubuntu
[08:45] <christianmortal> it did with the live cd but not under a fresh install
[08:45] <soundray> hartsantler, I have one app that runs six times faster on amd64 2Ghz than on i686 3GHz.
[08:45] <slavik> feistel: downlaod a theme from gnomelook.org, then open the theme manager thingy (system -> preferences -> themes) then click on install new theme button and point it to the archive you downloaded
[08:45] <christianmortal> nope
[08:45] <war-totem> _luiz: fyi their is a kubuntu channel
[08:45] <feistel> slavik: I don't have a GTK desktop
[08:45] <_luiz> "command not found"
[08:45] <Pygi> ompaul: I've tried that before also...and tried now...hasn't worked
[08:45] <feistel> I need a theme for gimp
[08:46] <gnomefreak> feistel: use gnome-look.org or art.gnome.org
[08:46] <_luiz> yea, i know
[08:46] <slavik> feistel: what do you use?
[08:46] <peter__> I was really impressed with Automatix. Loaded all the video and audio plugins, codecs, and about 25 common packages with dependencies in like 3 hours. I Loaded Kubuntu, had all kinds of root permission issues, ended up loading ubuntu then loading Kubuntu-desktop on top of it for the KDE
[08:46] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; do you know the type name and number?
[08:46] <christianmortal> of the card yea one sec
[08:46] <slavik> feistel: kde?
[08:46] <feistel> gnomefreak: I have a tarball of my theme
[08:46] <feistel> slavik: yes
[08:46] <Pygi> ubotu tell peter__ about automatix
[08:46] <pixelfairy> kubuntu on top of ubuntu seems pretty nice
[08:46] <christianmortal> Belkin F5D7010 version 3
[08:46] <pixelfairy> ifyou have the space anyway
[08:46] <slavik> feistel: then go to the kde menu, look for the way to change the theme ... I forget where it is ...
[08:46] <war-totem> _luiz: is yoru sound card deteted?
[08:46] <Amaranth> peter__: automatix broke kubuntu or kubuntu was just broken?
[08:46] <gahan> can i set default gtk font?
[08:46] <slavik> and then point it to the archive too
[08:47] <war-totem> _luiz: detected
[08:47] <Fragging> I wonder, is anyone else having problems with Rhytmbox in Dapper? It won't play anything at all for me?
[08:47] <gnomefreak> ubotu tell peter__ about easyubuntu
[08:47] <_luiz> nope
[08:47] <peter__> Kubuntu was just broken
[08:47] <_luiz> it's an onboard AD1888
[08:47] <slavik> ubotu tell slavik about easyubuntu
[08:47] <_luiz> with M5455
[08:47] <peter__> I couldnt get permissions, i even went in and did sudo passwd root and changed it, it changed it right back
[08:47] <hkais> hi
[08:48] <Pygi> ompaul: thoughts?
[08:48] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; ok give me one minute
[08:48] <gahan> how do i set/change gtk1.2 font?
[08:48] <christianmortal> great
[08:48] <slavik> gahan: you mean the default font?
[08:48] <mwe> gahan: use "switch" from gtk-theme-switch
[08:48] <ompaul> Pygi, none, at the moment
[08:48] <mwe> gahan: you can't use ttf fonts though
[08:49] <war-totem> _luiz: not quite sure how to get kubuntu to detect a sound card, but their must be a manual way around it
[08:49] <gahan> they're nasty. the xmms right-click menu and xmms configuration is just unreadable (i dont mean the playlist/main window fonts). afaik it's controleld my gtk12
[08:49] <gahan> i'll try that switch
[08:49] <hkais> i have under /lib/modules/2.6.12-10-686 a volatile directory, how can I update the containing modules?
[08:49] <ompaul> Pygi, are you running breezy?
[08:50] <mwe> gahan: you can't get a beatiful font in gtk1. you can limit the pain though
[08:50] <soundray> hkais, by updating the kernel package.
[08:50] <pixelfairy> nexus is a pretty font
[08:50] <Pygi> ompaul: yes, the dapper edition works great, better then breezy :)
[08:50] <holycow> anyone knokw how to get jnlp java files to actually run as a java applet inside a browser window?  my browsers insist on trying to save the file
[08:50] <gahan> ok, thanks
[08:50] <FliesLikeALap> soundray,  the vpnc package looks promising, itll most likely work out when i can take the time to configure it
[08:50] <gnomefreak> gahan: you can change your font at system>prefferences>font
[08:50] <FliesLikeALap> quad_, check out the vpnc package
[08:50] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; trying to find an good how to
[08:50] <hkais> soundray: is it possible to avoid this? I want only to add the fglrx.ko
[08:50] <war-totem> _luiz: try this, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2743
[08:51] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; you have to install ndisrapper, did you manage to do that?
[08:51] <soundray> hkais, for that, I suggest you install the linux-restricted package that contains it.
[08:51] <christianmortal> yea thats ok and installed
[08:51] <BrickMaker> where i can get good icons ?
[08:51] <_luiz> i'll take a look
[08:51] <quad_> FliesLikeABrick, im on it, and if you have looked at the link i threw, im following the Debian approach
[08:51] <_luiz> thanks
[08:51] <ompaul> Pygi, was that a yes Pygi is running breezy?
[08:51] <hkais> soundray: i have installed the restricted, but i want to use the current version of the ati driver
[08:52] <christianmortal> but it thought the card was supported
[08:52] <FliesLikeALap> sorry quad_ , i'm in class and missed your link, mind pasting again?
[08:52] <Pygi> ompaul: yes, the problem arisses on breezy
[08:52] <BrickMaker> Help
[08:52] <quad_> FliesLikeABrick, not at all: http://kortlink.dk/2cf9
[08:52] <soundray> hkais, have you found the instructions?
[08:52] <BrickMaker> i wanted to change my linux style .. i would love task bar as windows style how can i do it?
[08:52] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; some get it working, some dont...but you need ndisrapper any how
[08:52] <hkais> soundray: no, there can i find it?
[08:52] <christianmortal> ok
[08:52] <soundray> ubotu, tell hkais about ati
[08:52] <hkais> i got it working, but i had to replace the driver manually
[08:53] <BrickMaker> i wanted to change my linux style .. i would love to change linux gnome task bar in windows style task bar how can i do it?
[08:53] <slavik> BrickMaker: find the proper theme
[08:53] <_luiz> well... at least the sound worked very well on Hoary
[08:53] <BrickMaker> slavik, Proper theme from where?
[08:53] <slavik> gnomelook.org?
[08:54] <BrickMaker> Ok
[08:54] <noaXess> is it possible, that vmware can't be installed on a debian based system?
[08:54] <noaXess> also from source?
[08:54] <gnomefreak> gnome-look.org
[08:54] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; are you still there?
[08:54] <christianmortal> yep
[08:55] <slavik> noaXess: I don't see a reason why it wouldn't be allowed to install
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> ok, i give you an url for website, please read it ..and hopefully it will
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> help you to get it up and running
[08:55] <Pygi> ompaul: why does dapper works better then breezy :)))
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> if not try here again, ok?
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> http://www.signal2noise.co.uk/~eason/cgi-bin/blosxom.cgi/technical
[08:55] <johndo> why can't I post here:  http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=68028
[08:55] <noaXess> slavik: i to.. it says there is no version.h in the /usr/src/linux files..
[08:55] <ubuntutestrun> book mark it...
[08:56] <ubuntutestrun> :)
[08:56] <noaXess> slavik: i have extracted /usr/src/linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2
[08:56] <slavik> noaXess: hmm ... try to search for that file
[08:56] <noaXess> and made ln -s linux-source-2.6.12.tar.bz2 linux
[08:56] <noaXess> slavik: for what file?
[08:56] <slavik> version.h
[08:56] <noaXess> version.h
[08:56] <noaXess> ah ok..
[08:57] <slavik> maybe it wasn't with the package ...
[08:57] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; got the website and found the info? for your card and instructions...?
[08:57] <hkais> soundray: i have done the setup like in the instruction, except, that i cannot remove my restricted modules...
[08:57] <BrickMaker> i have this theme http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=33513  .... but my task bar is still at same side
[08:58] <BrickMaker> in screen shot you can see the difference
[08:58] <christianmortal> ok great
[08:58] <soundray> hkais, that shouldn't be necessary.
[08:58] <christianmortal> so do you think we can configure it
[08:59] <Pygi> gnomefreak:ping
[08:59] <christianmortal> ideally it would be great if we could compile the driver and install it
[08:59] <christianmortal> but if ndis is anygood then i can use that
[08:59] <Pygi> com'on people, help me with gnome :-P
[09:00] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; how do you normally instal packages?
[09:01] <noaXess> slavik: version.h should be in /user/src/linux/.. see error..
[09:01] <christianmortal> well using make
[09:01] <christianmortal> is there an easier way
[09:01] <hkais> soundray: anyway the kernel loads the fglrx provided by restricted package
[09:01] <noaXess> slavik: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7541
[09:02] <hkais> soundray: but I need the ati newer version...
[09:02] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; well never mind, open console , apt-get install ndisrapper-utils
[09:02] <hkais> ubutu tell hkais volatile
[09:02] <_robin> i'm switching to kubuntu, how to get rid of the GNOME packages like synaptic, at once, and have a computer like i only installed kubuntu and not ubuntu?
[09:03] <yatesy> synaptic is not a gnome package
[09:03] <hkais> ubutu tell hkais about volatile
[09:03] <Pygi> sudo apt-get remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <_robin> Pygi: no that doesn't work
[09:03] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; did it install?
[09:03] <_robin> since kubuntu-desktop remove ubuntu-desktop
[09:03] <ompaul> Pygi, sudo apt-get reinstall
[09:03] <_robin> and removing ubuntu-desktop is a metapackage
[09:03] <_robin> doesn't work.
[09:04] <Pygi> ompaul: tried already
[09:04] <soft> hi
[09:04] <ubuntutestrun> oh, you are so soft!
[09:04] <christianmortal> done
[09:04] <christianmortal> then
[09:04] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; get your windows driver cdrom
[09:04] <JoeBlow> anyone gotten empire earth 2 to work on ubuntu using wine?
[09:04] <christianmortal> ok hang 5
[09:04] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; hang 5?
[09:05] <christianmortal> getting the cd
[09:05] <ubuntutestrun> ah!
[09:05] <_robin> i'm switching to kubuntu, how to get rid of the GNOME packages like synaptic, at once, and have a computer like i only installed kubuntu and not ubuntu?
[09:05] <ompaul> Pygi, well then sudo dpkg-reconfigure ubuntu-desktop ??
[09:05] <christianmortal> ok
[09:05] <bimberi> ubotu tell _robin about removegnome
[09:05] <christianmortal> ihaver it mounted
[09:06] <_robin> thank you :)
[09:06] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; is it just one cddrive?
[09:06] <bimberi> yw :)
[09:06] <christianmortal> yea
[09:06] <ubuntutestrun> ok
[09:06] <Pygi>  ompaul: tried that as well
[09:06] <bobbyd> hi
[09:06] <gonzalocortes> is there some one?
[09:06] <noaXess> ubotu: tell noaxess about linux-source
[09:06] <goo> I am having some problems with Rhythmbox. It doesn't want to play mp3. I have installed the gstreamer-mad package, but that didn't do it. I did a apt-get --reinstall install rhythmbox as well. Are there any dark magic I have to perform to get it working?
[09:06] <bobbyd> when i update my kernel, my nvidia binary driver stops working
[09:06] <hkais> soundray: could you help me with my problem?
[09:06] <bobbyd> what do i need to do to get it to work again afeter a kernel upgrade?
[09:06] <ompaul> Pygi, would you mind telling me how you ended up in this mess?
[09:06] <gonzalocortes> we need information about web cam services in Ubuntu
[09:07] <noaXess> ubotu: tell noaxess about kernel-source
[09:07] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; console type ndiswrapper -i /mnt/cdrom0/Driver/bcmwl5.inf
[09:07] <soundray> hkais, if you don't need anything else from the restricted modules, try 'sudo apt-get remove linux-restricted-modules-$(uname -r)'
[09:07] <bobbyd> gonzalocortes, webcams show as "video for linux" devices if they're suppored
[09:07] <Pygi> ompaul: well, I've been creating several patches to gnome, and I applied them...but none of them were in any way related with gnome-panel
[09:07] <Pygi> and patches actually work :-P
[09:08] <gonzalocortes> thanks bobbyd, but where I could found that?
[09:08] <gonzalocortes> I am new in this
[09:08] <ompaul> Pygi, remove them and see what happens :)
[09:08] <christianmortal> that file is not on the cd rom
[09:08] <Pygi> ompaul: tried...won't work ...
[09:08] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; thats not good...
[09:09] <christianmortal> well there are only .sys files
[09:09] <_robin> does that one work? that removegnome?
[09:09] <Pygi> ompaul: I've tried a lot of things, but the solution must be simple, just I can't remember :-P
[09:09] <ompaul> Pygi, well you have done something, it looks like kill off gnome and reinstall it, and this time build a dev version to break
[09:09] <gonzalocortes> somebody plz, can said me how can I made work my web cam on ubuntu?
[09:09] <xbox_sky> xbmc dev, hhahah what a joke...
[09:09] <cratel2> trying to get DRI working on a via graphics card. Do I have to recompile the kernel? Please say no...
[09:09] <bimberi> _robin: i've never done it - it's a prebby serious apt-get remove command though :)
[09:10] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; thats where my knowledge stops, becuase i am at this end of the globe and you on the other..
[09:10] <bimberi> *pretty
[09:10] <cratel2> if I *do* have to recompile the kernel, can I find the standard options which were used when the Breezy kernel was made?
[09:10] <bimberi> ubotu tell gonzalocortes about webcam
[09:10] <_robin> i think removing KDE is better
[09:10] <_robin> erm
[09:10] <_robin> GTK*
[09:10] <christianmortal> well can i not download the driver
[09:10] <Xenguy> !tell gonzalocortes about webcam
[09:10] <joey222> hey guys, am back. been away on hoilday
[09:10] <joey222> :)
[09:11] <_robin> what
[09:11] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; are you sure there are no inf files on the cdrom?
[09:11] <noaXess> hi joey222  nice
[09:11] <_robin> what's the gtk package?*
[09:11] <noaXess> ;)
[09:11] <christianmortal> could the file be hidden
[09:12] <ubuntutestrun> dont think so , but you can try with nautilus
[09:12] <ubuntutestrun> to show hidden files
[09:12] <joey222> just came back, have to instal Ubuntu cus as usual my Server 2003 box failed while i was away
[09:12] <_robin> what's the gtk package?
[09:12] <_robin> ahh, found it
[09:13] <Pygi> ompaul: k, I just did some changes to patches
[09:13] <Pygi> lemme restart
[09:13] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; do an dmesg
[09:14] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; on console..
[09:14] <christianmortal> i get lots of stuff
[09:15] <Curt> has anyone put gcompris (educational software) on ubuntu ?
[09:15] <giard> is there a package checkin monitor for the dapper packages so you can see as new ones are added and update?
[09:15] <noaXess> whats the newset kernel-headers version?
[09:15] <moto> when i install a program and try to run it, it always says "failed to execute child process. no such file or directory"
[09:15] <moto> any ideas?
[09:15] <christianmortal> lots about irq 10 being disabled
[09:16] <noaXess> i hav installed 2.6.11.2 but my kernel is 2.6.12-10
[09:16] <moto> do i need to chmod it?
[09:16] <Curt> moto I have same problem
[09:16] <christianmortal> tells me i need the driver rt2xx from serial monkey
[09:16] <mansoor> I want to run GPRS over Bluetooth
[09:17] <christianmortal> tells me that ra0 has no ipv6 routers present
[09:18] <Pygi> ompaul: guess what :P
[09:18] <FarrisG> Every once in a while, a user or two will have the group write bit turned on for his entire home directory, and none of these users ever remembers doing it himself. I have no scripts that run as root. Any idea what could be causing this?
[09:18] <Pygi> ompaul: it still refuses to work :/
[09:18] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; hehe
[09:19] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; well, i am looking around to see if i can get an other way..
[09:19] <ompaul> Pygi, you borked it, your code - rebuild a clean install and a dev install - then you can dd clean over dev when you bork it again
[09:19] <ompaul> Pygi, subversion
[09:19] <antisocial_boris> if i want to move my /home and /swap partitions to an external hard drive all i have to do is create these partions on the hd, copy everything over then change /etc/fstab right?
[09:19] <christianmortal> whats wrong with the sys file
[09:19] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; are you sure that this : Belkin 54g card F5D7010 is the card?
[09:20] <deefzi> native english speakers: "attourney in law" or "attourney at law"
[09:20] <keherman> hey guys, im going to upgrade an entire school lab (25 PCs) from RHEL3 to Ubuntu Breezy -- any pointers for using LDAP and mounting remote /home with the existing server setup?
[09:20] <deefzi> -u sorry
[09:20] <ashyg> he guys whenever i restart for the third time after installing ubuntu i get a GRUB error 13
[09:20] <ashyg> is there a way to make it install LILO instead?
[09:21] <mwe> ashyg: what's error 13?
[09:21] <keherman> I'm wondering what the proper way to install/partition if I am going to remotely mount the server's /home directory??
[09:21] <ashyg> error 15*
[09:21] <ashyg> not 13, sorry
[09:21] <christianmortal> 100% sure
[09:21] <christianmortal> its a version 3
[09:21] <mwe> ashyg: what does it indicate?
[09:22] <keherman> mwe, google it
[09:22] <ashyg> file not found mwe
[09:22] <Wibble-> My monitor returns incorrect DDC information about what it supports (and omits some DDC information such as the horiz/vert refresh rate).  I know what the monitor supports from the web (and having seen it running on this monitor previously).  Can I make xorg ignore the DDC info returned by my monitor?
[09:22] <ashyg> i've reinstalled ubuntu like 5 times
[09:22] <mwe> keherman: why would I do that? I'm not having it
[09:22] <ashyg> and without fail, the third time i boot i get a GRUB error 15
[09:22] <Pygi> ompaul: can you guess the "so obvious" solution? :)))
[09:23] <mwe> ashyg: so is your menu.lst correct? did you update or something? what happened before it broke?
[09:23] <keherman> ashyg, does this computer have a recovery software on the hard drive?
[09:23] <ashyg> no sir
[09:23] <keherman> ashyg, what PC is it?
[09:23] <ashyg> i haven't done anything
[09:23] <ashyg> what do you mean what PC
[09:23] <shad0w1e> how do I view all iptables rules??
[09:23] <keherman> ashyg, is it from a manufacturer?
[09:23] <keherman> or custom built?
[09:23] <ashyg> custom
[09:24] <mwe> ashyg: so this error just suddenly appeared? not that I doubt it
[09:24] <keherman> ashyg, ok so there is no recovery partition good
[09:24] <keherman> ashyg, last time it worked was when?
[09:24] <ashyg> yes mwe, it suddenly appears... like i said, i can reinstall ubuntu then the third time i boot it it happens
[09:24] <christianmortal> Hey Ubuntutestrun i have another card handy
[09:24] <ashyg> keherman: never
[09:24] <ompaul> ashyg, search for "Invalid or unsupported executable format" on this http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/grub.txt
[09:24] <christianmortal> Its a DLINK DWL 610
[09:24] <keherman> ashyg, this is a first time install?
[09:24] <mwe> ashyg: hmm.
[09:24] <christianmortal> how about we try that one
[09:24] <christianmortal> no driver disk though
[09:24] <ashyg> keherman: the first time ubuntu was installed on this system, it occured on the third boot
[09:24] <mwe> ashyg: can you mount the partition from a live cd or something?
[09:24] <ashyg> so i reinstalled
[09:25] <ashyg> and it keeps happening
[09:25] <christianmortal> but i guess we can download the driver from the wiki
[09:25] <ashyg> i don't have a live cd i am going to use the install cd to install lilo
[09:25] <keherman> ashyg, did you format the ENTIRE DISK?
[09:25] <ashyg> i have four hard disks
[09:25] <ashyg> one is my windows one
[09:25] <Stormx2> Could someone give me a hand with connecting to a server using GNOME's "Connect to server" functionality and samba?
[09:25] <ashyg> the other is my ubuntu one
[09:25] <ashyg> the other two are for data
[09:25] <ompaul> ashyg, do you do updated after the second boot?
[09:25] <keherman> ashyg, sounds like your boot loader is choosing the wrong one then -- is it SERIAL ATA?
[09:25] <ashyg> no, none are SATA, all IDE
[09:25] <ompaul> ashyg, do you do updates after the second boot?
[09:26] <ashyg> no, ompaul i can't get online
[09:26] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; i have to go, battery is running low
[09:26] <christianmortal> ok cheers buddy thanks for the help
[09:26] <anto9us> Stormx2, you need smbfs installed
[09:26] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; try the other card, and boot it up, if the light goes in you got something going...
[09:26] <noaXess> ha.. found it
[09:26] <ashyg> guys i gotta go to class
[09:26] <Stormx2> anto9us: It half works. i know that.
[09:26] <ashyg> please PM me with any ideas i will be back in 2 hrs
[09:27] <noaXess> slavik: it is linux-headers .. then all is in /usr/src.. :)
[09:27] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; here is an other url http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/List
[09:27] <anto9us> Stormx2, what's the problem?
[09:27] <antisocial_boris> damn, i just ran cfdisk and got a fatal error, bad logical partition, enlarged partitions overlap
[09:27] <Stormx2> anto9us: Im just unsure about the data that needs to fill in. It constantly asks me for a password, even when I hit cancel.
[09:27] <antisocial_boris> anything i can do ?
[09:27] <noaXess> slavik: and now my vmware workstation runs.. :)
[09:27] <ubuntutestrun> i was reading this , to get an answer to the problem
[09:27] <BrickMaker> how can i get XML::Simple Perl Module
[09:27] <ompaul> ashyg, what o/s are on that box?
[09:28] <ashyg> BrickMaker: use cpan
[09:28] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; to bad that we could not get it running, good luck anyway
[09:28] <Jarrette> does anyone know how i can start a lone application via a gdm session and have it use the fullscreen instead of just a corner? aven when i try to go fullscreen after the application loads, it still just uses the corner
[09:28] <ashyg> ompaul: windows xp home, ubuntu
[09:28] <anto9us> Stormx2, I find it best to create a permanent mount for a windows share
[09:28] <ompaul> ashyg, what are you booting between the boots of Ubuntu
[09:28] <christianmortal> Can anyone help me to install a Belkin F5D710 with NDISWRAPPER
[09:28] <ashyg> windows
[09:28] <Stormx2> anto9us: The options are "Server", "Share", "Folder", "User Name", "Domain Name". The URL is https://folders.st-bartholomews.w-berks.sch.uk/easylink/wf.stb-sr-002.s/2002/02GALEB and the username is 02galeb
[09:28] <BrickMaker> ashyg, i'm trying to configure the icon theme its not compiling because don't have XML::Simple Perl Module
[09:28] <BrickMaker> so cpan is "XML::Simple Perl Module"?
[09:28] <ashyg> BrickMaker: type cpan
[09:28] <christianmortal> Can anyone help me to install a Belkin F5D710 with NDISWRAPPER
[09:28] <ashyg> then it will open a prompt
[09:28] <ashyg> you might need to sudo cpan
[09:28] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; by hte way, you are immortal, the soul lives on!
[09:28] <ashyg> i've never used cpan on ubuntu, only on suse
[09:28] <ashyg> so open cpan
[09:29] <ashyg> install XML::Simple
[09:29] <ashyg> quit
[09:29] <ashyg> tada
[09:29] <ashyg> :)
[09:29] <ompaul> ashyg, so is it suggesting that there is a problem with the file system and fixing it?
[09:29] <christianmortal> not if i dont get this wlan working im not
[09:29] <BrickMaker> hmm ok
[09:29] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; LOL
[09:29] <anto9us> Stormx2, https is not a valid samba share
[09:29] <keherman> ashyg, what FS did you install?
[09:29] <ubuntutestrun> christianmortal ; bye bye
[09:29] <ashyg> ompaul: no, it isn't - i've really got to get going now or i will be late
[09:29] <ashyg> keherman: ext3
[09:29] <christianmortal> see ya buddy
[09:29] <Stormx2> anto9us: i removed the https, and it worked fine
[09:29] <ashyg> i really gotta go guys, be back in 2 hrs please pm me with any ideas
[09:29] <Stormx2> anto9us: Cept it kept asking me for a password
[09:30] <Knowerrors>  Anybody here use dialup modem for internet access, and have v92 modem on hold / net waiting , working on Linux?
[09:30] <mrproper> How do I get lame in Breezy?
[09:30] <BrickMaker> CPAN build and cache directory? [/home/saif/.cpan] 
[09:31] <BrickMaker> what path i should provide there?
[09:31] <arcade> Hm
[09:31] <ompaul> mrproper, you would need multiverse enabled
[09:31] <arcade> How do I loopback-mount a file?  It's encrypted with twofish256 - under SuSE, and contains an ext3 filesystem.  I need the syntax.
[09:31] <mrproper> ompaul, Okay thanks.
[09:32] <anto9us> Stormx2, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently?highlight=%28windows%29
[09:32] <BrickMaker> Knowerrors, i have v56 modem
[09:32] <arcade> Never done it manually, and I'm not able to mount it atm. :-/
[09:32] <mrproper> ompaul, I do have multiverse.
[09:32] <arcade> .. Just moved the file to Ubuntu :-/
[09:32] <BrickMaker> Knowerrors, you can say its v92
[09:32] <pixelfairy> anyone else having really slow downloads from the us archives?
[09:32] <anto9us> Stormx2, I find the connect to server doesn't work well with samba shares
[09:32] <lol> hi
[09:32] <Scram> mrproper: then aptitude install lame should work
[09:32] <ompaul> mrproper, so install it - sudo apt-get install lame
[09:33] <mrproper> Package lame is not available, but is referred to by another package.
[09:33] <mrproper> This may mean that the package is missing, has been obsoleted, or
[09:33] <mrproper> is only available from another source
[09:33] <noaXess> does anybody know, when the firefox and thunderbird 1.5 package for ubuntu is abailable?
[09:33] <ompaul> mrproper, so install it - apt-cache search lame | less for more ideas
[09:33] <ompaul> mrproper, do this: apt-cache policy lame
[09:33] <BrickMaker> how can i install XML::Simple Perl Module
[09:33] <Knowerrors> BrickMaker: you get netwaiting working on it?
[09:34] <ompaul> mrproper, what result?
[09:34] <mrproper> lame:
[09:34] <mrproper>   Installed: (none)
[09:34] <mrproper>   Candidate: (none)
[09:34] <mrproper>   Version table:
[09:34] <BrickMaker> Knowerrors, netwaiting .. idk abt it..
[09:34] <shad0w1e> how do I add iptables rules to startup?
[09:34] <ompaul> mrproper, so you do not have multiverse
[09:34] <_jason> mrproper: don't paste and you need to enable multiverse
[09:35] <BrickMaker> XML::Simple Perl Module how can i get ?
[09:35] <ompaul> mrproper, read the instructions from ubotu
[09:35] <homer> Hello
[09:35] <coolboy> how do I shut down from terminal?
[09:35] <homer> I have a problem  using the Live CD
[09:35] <anto9us> shad0w1e, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IptablesHowTo
[09:35] <Pygi> coolboy:  halt or shutdown
[09:35] <FireAndRain> coolboy: sudo shutdown -h now
[09:35] <_jason> BrickMaker: maybe libxml-simple-perl ?
[09:35] <homer> I inserted a flash drive in my computer
[09:36] <coolboy> thx
[09:36] <ompaul> shad0w1e, you don't need to unless you are running services that need filters on them
[09:36] <Knowerrors> BrickMaker: umm, modem on hold, you know if you have call waiting and youre online, you can take a phone call and put your net connection on the wait
[09:36] <homer> but it is mounted as read only
[09:36] <Stormx2> anto9us: OK >.< I guess I messed up
[09:36] <Stormx2> anto9us: It wasn't samba I was talking about, it was WebDAV
[09:36] <homer> it says I must be root to do have write access
[09:36] <BrickMaker> Knowerrors, i never try this on ubuntu..
[09:36] <mrproper> Thanks
[09:36] <homer> what is the root password for Ubuntu and how to I log in as root
[09:36] <_jason> ubotu: tell homer about root
[09:36] <ompaul> !tell homer about rootsudo
[09:36] <BrickMaker> _jason, check these.. and read the requirements http://tango-project.org/Installation
[09:37] <gustaf_> is there anyway to change the terminal font to something that isn't antialiased? like 7x14
[09:37] <mrproper> Yay, installing thanks.
[09:37] <zeb> i still need printer help
[09:37] <anto9us> Stormx2, webdav should work ok
[09:37] <zeb> seriously
[09:37] <_jason> BrickMaker: try what I told you
[09:37] <Stormx2> anto9us: yep. cept it keeps asking me for a password
[09:37] <BrickMaker> _jason,  Ok boss!
[09:37] <ompaul> homer, there can be root, but sudo command using your own "strong" password is the way it gets done in ubuntu read the web page ubotu told you about,
[09:37] <_jason> BrickMaker: I like tango :)
[09:38] <ubuntu_> for wich package should I post a bug for one that occurs in flight 3 in general (wrong keyboard when entering french as language)
[09:38] <anto9us> Stormx2, do you have a valid account on the server?
[09:38] <theSamo> would dapper drake have the new mosular X 7?
[09:38] <BrickMaker> aight ;)
[09:38] <trappist> anto9us: probably locales
[09:38] <zeb> can someone give me printer advice
[09:38] <zeb> PLEASE
[09:38] <zeb> I REALLY NEED HELP
[09:38] <_jason> ubotu: tell zeb about print
[09:38] <BenC> anyone have an exim4 rule for filtering through spamassassin?
[09:38] <BrickMaker> _jason, do you have any good theme?
[09:38] <anto9us> trappist, beats me
[09:38] <ompaul> zeb, please wait a while there are 656 people here
[09:38] <_jason> BrickMaker: nope, I like default
[09:38] <Stormx2> anto9us: Yep
[09:39] <BrickMaker> Okay!
[09:39] <Stormx2> anto9us: It opens up the window, but I'm faced with 3-4 "Authorization Required" dialog boxes
[09:39] <anto9us> Stormx2, trappist suggests the problem might be locales, is that right trappist?
[09:39] <BrickMaker> _jason, will you help to move the gnome task bar.. i want it as Windows Task bar Style..
[09:39] <Stormx2> anto9us: When i click cancel or close they come up again about 20 times
[09:40] <_jason> BrickMaker: sorry I have class now
[09:40] <homer> ok I didn't understand that
[09:40] <zeb> that didnt tell me anything
[09:40] <BrickMaker> Okay!
[09:40] <zeb> my printer is on there
[09:40] <homer> how do I log in as root on the live cd, specifically?
[09:40] <zeb> but its not working right
[09:40] <anto9us> Stormx2, yes sounds like it's cascading and asking for authenitication in each of the objects in the folder
[09:41] <progrock> !diskmounter
[09:41] <ubotu> I heard diskmounter is to automatically mount your ntfs, fat32 or hfs+ drives, download and read http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/files/diskmounter
[09:42] <homer> can I have that link again
[09:42] <homer> thanks
[09:42] <gonzalocortes> somebody here speak spanish?
[09:42] <homer> I think I get it now
[09:42] <homer> the one about root
[09:42] <Stormx2> anto9us: Right. How should I fix that?
[09:43] <Stormx2> anto9us: I may have messed up the keyring, where are the settings for that?
[09:43] <anto9us> Stormx2, by authenticating properly on the folder you're connecting to
[09:43] <Stormx2> anto9us: In every single dialog box?
[09:43] <anto9us> Stormx2, no, just the top one
[09:43] <Stormx2> Then?
[09:44] <eZe> how can I configure the grub boot manager that windows is set as default? (and it should give me 10 seconds to choose)
[09:44] <gonzalocortes> is there somebody spanish speaking? or a room like this, available in spanish?
[09:44] <ubuntu_> what am I supposed to write as "distribution" on launchpad to get my bug for dapper?
[09:44] <Scram> eZe: you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[09:44] <eZe> alright, thx
[09:44] <njadve> how do i get a wireless TopCom PCI-card to work with Ubuntu?
[09:45] <progrock> Anyone get wireless to work with ipw2200?
[09:45] <Scram> eZe: should be more-or-less selfdocumenting...
[09:45] <eZe> is everything in there self explanatory?
[09:45] <eZe> ok, thx :)
[09:45] <Stormx2> anto9us: What then? Cancel all the others?
[09:45] <Scram> eZe: yes... "default" and "timeout" are your whoes
[09:46] <Cyorxamp> Lo I installed gphx drivers and ran the config and set my refresh rate too high - now nothing displays - how can I get around it?
[09:46] <anto9us> Stormx2, wait please, I'm looking into it
[09:46] <Stormx2> anto9us: Thankyou so much :)
[09:46] <homer> nevermind guys
[09:46] <homer> I figured it out
[09:46] <LxSedan> hey can someone tell me where i can d/l the build essential package
[09:46] <homer> for anyone else
[09:47] <ubuntu_> gonzalocortes : there #ubuntumexico, but the best way to find something else is to search in the channel list something like #ubuntu-something
[09:47] <homer> gksudo nautilus <--- very useful command
[09:47] <homer> allows you to browse nautilus as root
[09:47] <Stormx2> homer: yep
[09:47] <homer> until you close the application
[09:47] <ubuntu_> LxSedan : sudo apt-get install build-essential?
[09:47] <ubuntu_> LxSedan : or do you want the source?
[09:47] <LxSedan> no internet hooked upto it
[09:47] <LxSedan> do i need it?
[09:48] <LxSedan> all i can do is d/l from this desktop, burn and bring it over
[09:48] <anto9us> Stormx2, have you test the shared folder from elsewhere?
[09:49] <tim_> how do i mount an mdf/mds file in linux?
[09:49] <ubuntu_> LxSedan : k... wait a minute I'll find it...
[09:49] <Stormx2> anto9us: What do you mean?
[09:49] <Stormx2> anto9us: In FF I can open it, but of course its read only and ugly
[09:49] <Stormx2> anto9us: In IE I can access it fine.
[09:49] <Cyorxamp> Hey, I installed gphx drivers and ran the config and set my refresh rate too high - now nothing displays - anyone know how can I get around it?
[09:49] <LxSedan> ubuntugeek: seemed ot type the command and its building or installing it
[09:49] <anto9us> Stormx2, ok, that's what I meant
[09:49] <katie_> ie's icky
[09:49] <ubuntu_> LxSedan : go search on http://packages.ubuntu.com for your distribution
[09:49] <Scram> LxSedan: apt-chache show build-essential will show you the path on your local mirror...
[09:49] <Knowerrors> Whats a good gui video editor and converter on linux?
[09:50] <Scram> Knowerrors: kino is not bad, but its DV oriented
[09:50] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, is gphx drivers for the x display server
[09:50] <anto9us> Stormx2, it could be a password problem, sometimes you need to log out of gnome to get it to ask for a fresh one
[09:50] <BrickMaker> hey.. how can i install tango icon theme 0.6.6
[09:50] <fuzz_and_water> Knowerrors: cinelerra, kino, pitivi, LiVES
[09:50] <Stormx2> anto9us: Good idea.
[09:50] <anto9us> Stormx2, least that's the way I know to get it to
[09:51] <Stormx2> anto9us: But I think its saved in a "keyring" of sorts?
[09:51] <BrickMaker> how can i install tango icon theme 0.6.6 .......................
[09:51] <Stormx2> anto9us: I shall do that anyway ;-) Thanks
[09:51] <anto9us> Stormx2, yes
[09:51] <rod> BrickMaker, checked gnomelook.org?? :)
[09:51] <BrickMaker> rod, checked .. i'm trying ./configure and then make
[09:51] <BrickMaker> but its saying make not found
[09:51] <rod> are you using ubuntu?
[09:51] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, what is the link?
[09:51] <tim_> how do i mount an mdf/mds file in linux?
[09:52] <homer> what is the keyboard shortcut to open up help in gnome by default?
[09:52] <rod> BrickMaker, if you go to gnomelook.org you can download Tango - suite 1.1 1.1
[09:52] <BrickMaker> http://tango-project.org/Installation
[09:52] <jepler> Hi.  A friend and I are trying to build a modified kernel based on the ubuntu kernel, using build-kpkg.  The kernel .deb we get doesn't include firmware, such as ipw-2.3-boot.fw.  Can someone point me at the documentation I need to read to get the kernel I build to include this file?
[09:52] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - yeah
[09:52] <fuzz_and_water> tim_, you have to convert it to iso first, using mdf2iso
[09:52] <tim_> ok thx
[09:52] <rod> BrickMaker, just download the package from the site i mentioned, open the theme window and use that install button to install the package
[09:52] <Knowerrors> fuzz_and_water: thx, do any of those covert from one video format to another (demuxing/recoding)
[09:52] <BrickMaker> rod, you know what i'm new i don't know how to install'em really problem for me anyway i have to do it
[09:52] <_dbglt> seems my net isn't as fixed as I thought it was
[09:53] <LxSedan> sorry guys i'm totally new to linux, how do i get out of the gnome gui to log in as root?
[09:53] <rod> BrickMaker, hey that's cool man :) I'm glad I can help
[09:53] <BrickMaker> ok be with me
[09:53] <fuzz_and_water> knowerrors, theyre mostly for editing & composition, but you could use cinelerra for that.. i would just use transcode or mencoder tho
[09:53] <rod> LxSedan, why do you want to log in as root?
[09:53] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, have installed build-essential?
[09:53] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, if so just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[09:53] <fuzz_and_water> lxsedan, if youre new to linux, you shouldnt be logging in as root ;)
[09:54] <BrickMaker> tristanmike, nope
[09:54] <ilba7r> and set the refresh rate and driver
[09:54] <LxSedan> trying to install ndiswrapper and this guide says i need to be root?
[09:54] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, try installing build-essential through synaptic, that should allow you to use ./configure
[09:54] <ilba7r> LxSedan, just use sudo infornt of each command that need root privlage
[09:54] <LxSedan> ah ok
[09:54] <Stormx2> Nope, logging out and in of gnome did not work.
[09:55] <ubuntu_> when I enter the french language, I get the wrong keyboard layout, I think it should ask wich kind of layout I want (there's mainly 2 in french). Wich package could that be to report the bug?
[09:55] <_dbglt> how do I remove a package which I have installed fine to stop it from harassing me?
[09:55] <_dbglt> just from apt
[09:55] <_dbglt>   eciadsl-usermode: Depends: pppoe but it is not going to be installed
[09:55] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, if you don't mind me asking, what is that you're trying to install?
[09:55] <_dbglt> whenever I try to install anything else, it gives me that line
[09:55] <BrickMaker> rod, i have to download manually all files
[09:55] <BrickMaker> tristanmike, i wanted to change my theme
[09:55] <FarrisG> Can anyone help me out with this error I'm getting from openssh? "error: openpty: No such file or directory"
[09:55] <_dbglt> the package installed and works fine (when overriden), but I want to get rid of that warning
[09:55] <BrickMaker> tristanmike, and as well as icons
[09:55] <Stormx2> gnome has crashed again... greaat
[09:55] <_dbglt> anyone?
[09:55] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - how can I get into anything if it tries to startx everytime?
[09:55] <ubuntu_> _dbglt : sudo apt-get remove package
[09:56] <_dbglt> I don't want to remove it
[09:56] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, are you on gnome now
[09:56] <_dbglt> I just want to get rid of the warning
[09:56] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, have you visited www.gnome-look.org?
[09:56] <_dbglt> whenever I try to install anything else...
[09:56] <ubuntu_> _dbglt : --reinstall then?
[09:56] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - no
[09:56] <BrickMaker> i'm there
[09:56] <_dbglt> it is not a ubuntu deb
[09:56] <_dbglt> it is a debian one
[09:56] <_dbglt> and I had to override
[09:56] <_dbglt> the install works fine
[09:56] <ocoder> what is the difference between sleep and hibernate?
[09:56] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, or conversely www.kde-look.org
[09:56] <BrickMaker> rod, i'm downloading Tango Original
[09:56] <_dbglt> it is just giving me that annoying message now
[09:56] <anto9us> Stormx2, problem might be that it's https?
[09:56] <ocoder> 1.5
[09:56] <rod> BrickMaker, lol....  You really should check out gnomelook.org, click on the tango link and download the tar.gz package which contains all the icons
[09:56] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - i'm not on anything, when ubuntu is started it auto starts x and monitor goes bad
[09:56] <BrickMaker> tristanmike, i'm have gnome not kde
[09:57] <Stormx2> anto9us: Well, I selected the "https" section on the connect to server
[09:57] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, well, incase you go kde, there it is
[09:57] <ubuntu_> _dbglt : ho ok, maybe you have two packages installed of the same one? what is that message anyway?
[09:57] <BrickMaker> rod, yeah dude i'v dowloaded now what :D
[09:57] <rod> BrickMaker, from here? :)  http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=33959
[09:57] <Stormx2> gnome has crashed. Is there a quick way to get a terminal up?
[09:57] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, ok you can either safe boot. boot into a terminal and run it. If you are already running a display manager press CTRL ALT F! will give you a console log in and set it up from there
[09:57] <BrickMaker> tristanmike, ok thx!
[09:57] <ocoder> what is the difference between sleep and hibernate?
[09:57] <_dbglt> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[09:57] <_dbglt>   eciadsl-usermode: Depends: pppoe but it is not going to be installed
[09:57] <rod> now you go to system, prefs, theme BrickMaker
[09:57] <tristanmike> BrickMaker, If you install that tango thingy, just make sure you have fufilled all the other requirements
[09:57] <katie_> you dont dream if you're hibernating
[09:57] <rod> BrickMaker, then click install team and browse to your just downloaded file :)
[09:57] <BrickMaker> rod, from here http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=31261
[09:58] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, you can boot from the boot menu to a terminal
[09:58] <ocoder> so my computer dreams when it sleeps
[09:58] <Stormx2> terminal?
[09:58] <Stormx2> Anyone.....
[09:58] <anto9us> Stormx2, ctrl-alt-backspace will allow you to login again
[09:58] <Stormx2> anto9us: Yeah but i hate having to do that
[09:58] <ves> Is there anyway to send a current app running in a terminal to the background?
[09:58] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - I am just gonna select safe mode on the grub menu
[09:58] <katie_> oh? do cmputers sleep?
[09:58] <Scram> ves: "^Z"
[09:58] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, this is booting to a terminal
[09:58] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - sorry I don't understand
[09:58] <AMDXP> anto9us: does ctrl-atl-backspace log you out of the other session?
[09:59] <rod> BrickMaker, that link is cool too :)
[09:59] <ves> Scram: you are a god, thank you :)
[09:59] <Cythril> Could someone direct me to a tutorial on un-raring a file in Linux?
[09:59] <Scram> ves: or, start with screen from the beginning
[09:59] <anto9us> AMD_XP, it kills x-server
[09:59] <katie_> sudo apt-get install rar
[09:59] <BrickMaker> rod, lol... i have download   (Icon set) ..
[09:59] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, using the safe mode is right from grub
[09:59] <katie_> right click extract?
[09:59] <ves> Scram: yeah, I've ran an unscreened irssi by accident and the loose terminal was annoying me :)
[09:59] <katie_> well thats how i do ti
[09:59] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - yeah I know 'Recovery Mode' is loaded
[09:59] <ocoder> in the shutdown dialog for dapper drake there are two options sleep and hibernate. what is the differenct
[09:59] <Scram> ves: ^Z only "suspends" the current application... using fg and bg you can put it into the foreground again... or let it run in the background
[09:59] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - what is it I should type to get my old xorg.conf file back?
[10:00] <Cyorxamp> I will re-configure from scratch
[10:00] <anto9us> ocoder, sleep suspends to ram, hibernate suspends to disk
[10:00] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, you will not get it back unless you backed it up
[10:00] <ubuntu_> ocoder : I also have this question... have you tried both?
[10:00] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - :S
[10:00] <ilba7r> but look under the following dir you might find it
[10:00] <LxSedan> the guide says i need to run ln -s /usr/src/linux-<kernel-version> /lib/modules/VERSION/build do i just replace the version with 2.6.2-9-386?
[10:00] <ves> Scram: Ah I see what you mean, cheers again though it was exactly what I needed
[10:00] <ilba7r> /etc/X11
[10:00] <metalsand> How can I uninstall drivers?
[10:00] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, the file is xorg.conf
[10:00] <metalsand> Ubuntu by defualt installed the wrong drivers for my wireless card
[10:01] <ocoder> thanks
[10:01] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - yeah I can see xorg.conf
[10:01] <Stormx2> X Died and I rebooted.
[10:01] <fulldisclosure> Hi, I have a problem, I cant burn an audio-CD, serpentine crashes just at the first try of file converting.
[10:01] <Cyorxamp> :S
[10:02] <fulldisclosure> Is this a known problem?
[10:02] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, if there is a back up or old one it will be xorg.conf~
[10:02] <pder> UBUNTU DO NOT SUPPORT COMPUTER SYSTEM
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r, nope does not exist
[10:02] <sobersabre> hi are there any openoffice.org 2.0 packages for ubuntu ? ( not 1.9xxx )
[10:02] <sobersabre> pder wtf is your problem ?
[10:02] <sobersabre> hm.. sorry for the bad lang..
[10:02] <fulldisclosure> sobersabre: Yes, indeed is the stable version in stable Ubuntu.
[10:02] <ompaul> pder, (A) do not use capitals, (B) define your problem in detail
[10:02] <Cyorxamp> sobersabre: I thought 5.10 (breezy badger) came with OOo2 ?
[10:02] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, so you have to reconfigure or edit it if you know how to do that. safest is the command i sent you
[10:02] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, not that I know about
[10:03] <Pygi> cyorxamp: well, u were wrong :)
[10:03] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - can you repeat?
[10:03] <sobersabre> Cyorxamp it comes with a 1.9xxx build, not 2.0 or latest 2.0.1
[10:03] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, then I don't use serpentine
[10:03] <drbrown> does anyone know what could be causing my 2 printers to print one line on each page, and each line is just a string of characters????
[10:03] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Can you take a look for serpentine and try to reproduce my error?
[10:03] <slavik> Cyorxamp: ooo2 beta
[10:03] <ubuntu_> sobersabre : well for breezy I think there's some in backport... but in dapper (release for april) there should be 2.0
[10:03] <slavik> which is 1.9
[10:03] <slavik> dapper will have 2.0.1
[10:03] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Gnomebaker doesn't work too.
[10:03] <fulldisclosure> Seems to be a gstreamer issue.
[10:03] <Scram> drbrown: wrong driver... the characters are beginning with a % ?
[10:03] <slavik> check distrowatch.com :)
[10:04] <ilba7r> ompaul do you happen to know if making a presnetation using a laptop on which linux is installed need a program or tweek to hook it to a data projector?
[10:04] <drbrown> scram: i believe so
[10:04] <Cyorxamp> ilba7r - can you repeat?
[10:04] <LasseL> sobersabre, do you know if you can upgrade to OOo2 in breezy?
[10:04] <drbrown> scram: it also prints a lot of pages
[10:04] <sobersabre> I am happy for all of you.. ubuntu_ how can I check if there's a backport of ooo2.0 for breezy ?
[10:04] <slavik> ilba7r: you just need dual monitor support
[10:04] <Scram> drbrown: i'd guess you send raw postscript data to the printer... and the printer does print the code
[10:04] <slavik> sobersabre: in the repo?
[10:04] <drbrown> scram: let me check
[10:04] <ilba7r> slavik ok how to do that
[10:04] <sobersabre> LasseL I/you can simply use the vanilla version from the site. but I want dpkg/apt do some work
[10:05] <ilba7r> Cyorxamp, if so just run dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[10:05] <fulldisclosure> onverting files failed
[10:05] <fulldisclosure> Writing to disc didn't start so it is still usable.
[10:05] <slavik> ilba7r: can you get dual monitor working on your laptop?
[10:05] <ompaul> ilba7r, I have done it with ooo no extra messing
[10:05] <sobersabre> I am trying to use these in /etc/apt/sources.list
[10:05] <ubuntu_> sobersabre : google for backport, check if the ooo2.0 package is there, and if so, add backport to your sources.list for apt and install it :)
[10:05] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: This is the error I get in serpentine.
[10:05] <Scram> drbrown: its due to the fact unix only sends "new line" for a new line... not "new line" and "carriage return" - so the 2nd,3rd... lines are printed way out beyond the border
[10:05] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Can you take a look please?
[10:05] <ilba7r> slavik i have a T42 running ati driver card is ati 9600 do not know how to set two monitors
[10:05] <tristanmike> sobersabre, there is a sources.list line
[10:06] <ilba7r> ompaul whait is ooo
[10:06] <slavik> ilba7r: I can't help you, sorry. You'll have to try searching google or the wiki ...
[10:06] <ilba7r> ompaul, do you mean you just hooked up the projector
[10:06] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, looking
[10:06] <sobersabre> I have: deb http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu breezy-backports main restricted universe multiverse
[10:06] <sobersabre> and
[10:06] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Thanks.
[10:06] <ilba7r> slavik thank you for the help you provided so far :)
[10:06] <sobersabre> deb http://ubuntu-backports.mirrormax.net/ breezy-extras main restricted universe multiverse
[10:06] <drbrown> scram: how can I fix the issue????
[10:06] <sobersabre> are these wrong ?
[10:06] <ompaul> ilba7r, with several computers Open Office
[10:06] <tristanmike> sobersabre, there is a OO.org2 specific line
[10:07] <Stormx2> uhg
[10:07] <Stormx2> >_<
[10:07] <slavik> ilba7r: if you have dual monitor support, you shouldn't have any issues
[10:07] <ompaul> sobersabre, if your using breezy yes
[10:07] <sobersabre> hmm... tristanmike where "there"
[10:07] <Stormx2> Where are keyring settings stored anyone?
[10:07] <sobersabre> ?
[10:07] <tristanmike> sobersabre, check out http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic for the lines to add
[10:07] <sobersabre> thanks.
[10:07] <Scram> drbrown: select an different driver for the printer... so that it generates data thats in the printer's language...
[10:07] <tristanmike> sobersabre, be careful with them
[10:07] <ompaul> slavik, did not need any special tweeking on dell / ibm / $lappy
[10:07] <ilba7r> slavik will search do not know if i need to edit xorg.conf but thanks. The card support double monitor support
[10:08] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Did you finish?
[10:08] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, no I have mine set to be real slow did 3 tracks I think it is almost done
[10:08] <ompaul> yeap it is done
[10:08] <ompaul> now I try to play
[10:08] <ilba7r> ompaul, thanks though am afraid all presentations are in pdf. Will back them up on windows in case linux fail me
[10:08] <slavik> ompaul: I don't have those, I am waiting for my HP though :)
[10:08] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Breezy actualiced?
[10:09] <ompaul> ilba7r, then use evince
[10:09] <slavik> ilba7r: you'll prolly need to edit or configure xorg ...
[10:09] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, so it appears, if you wait a moment I will test it
[10:09] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Is there any non default installed library needed?
[10:09] <ilba7r> thanx ompaul and slavik. I have adope installed so no problem there
[10:09] <ilba7r> ok take care guys and thanx
[10:09] <drbrown> scram: i have selected each driver available for my printer, and it still does the same thing
[10:09] <slavik> ilba7r: just use adobe ...
[10:10] <sobersabre> tristanmike what a great LINK!!! :)
[10:10] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: My error is just when I put a mp3 in project, and click "Write to disk", then I obtain the message, that cannot be converted
[10:10] <tristanmike> sobersabre, np
[10:10] <Scram> drbrown: you try the test page?
[10:10] <dbglt> what is the best way to go about enabling write-access on an NTFS partition under linux?
[10:10] <dbglt> (ubuntu, to be precise :) )
[10:10] <tristanmike> dbglt, you DON'T want to do that
[10:11] <AMDXP> dbglt: you can do that???
[10:11] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, well if it is already a file it should not need anything to make it available to the disk other than a start and end - did you choose the file type?
[10:11] <tristanmike> dbglt, let me restate that....you DON'T want to do that
[10:11] <drbrown> scram: yes
[10:11] <omerix> i couldn't open floppy
[10:11] <dbglt> errm
[10:11] <dbglt> I've heard write-enabled NTFS works fine
[10:11] <omerix> how can i open floppy?
[10:11] <dbglt> was I mistaken?
[10:11] <Toadstool> dbglt: you can try to compile your own kernel with NTFS write support but do it at your own risks
[10:11] <tristanmike> dbglt, yes, you can read ntfs, but can't write with out HUGE risk of corruption
[10:12] <dbglt> usermode NTFS is read-only?
[10:12] <tristanmike> dbglt, from Linux, yest
[10:12] <ompaul> dbglt, and when your ntfs dies will #windows help you restore it, or will they cast you into the darkenss?
[10:12] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: File type for what?
[10:12] <AMDXP> yeah i heard that writing NTFS was still experimental and possibly bad things could happen
[10:12] <Scram> dbglt: as far as i know there is a fuse ntfs driver that uses wine to import about all of NTFS from windows to do it exactly the way windows does... but thats in beta testing...
[10:12] <metalsand> Does anyone know if ethereal captures ALL wireless packets or just the network you're connected to?
[10:12] <tristanmike> lol @ ompaul
[10:12] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: I just selected some mp3, and click "Write disk", and then I got that error:
[10:12] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, for the type of file you try to burn
[10:12] <dbglt> Scram: ah, perhaps that was what I had heard about.
[10:12] <fulldisclosure> onverting files failed
[10:13] <fulldisclosure> Writing to disc didn't start so it is still usable.
[10:13] <slavik> metalsand: you want kismet for wardriving :)
[10:13] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: ?
[10:13] <tristanmike> dbglt, you can read/write to fat32
[10:13] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: That's absurd...
[10:13] <progrock> I'm running ubuntu in vware on windows... hwo do I go between ubuntu back to windows
[10:13] <metalsand> slavik: I can't get kismet to work :(
[10:13] <metalsand> slavik: But on the bright side, I got my resolution to work :D
[10:13] <slavik> metalsand: that sucks
[10:13] <pder> WHY ARE UBUNTU NOT SUPPORT NTFS WRITE IT ARE NOT WORK
[10:13] <dbglt> yes I know that, thanks
[10:13] <BrickMaker> rod, i have change the icon them to tango original but nothing happend... even the icons are now default
[10:13] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, it was an option I choose
[10:13] <slavik> afaik, ethereal only monitors the connection from your side
[10:13] <Scram> dbglt:  that project is called "captive" http://www.jankratochvil.net/project/captive/
[10:14] <tristanmike> pder, weren't you kicked for being a nusence?
[10:14] <dbglt> I've been running linux for a while, just new to ubuntu... and to NTFS partitions
[10:14] <rod> BrickMaker, how did you change?
[10:14] <dbglt> Scram: I'll have a look over it, thanks
[10:14] <steven_> can somone help me, i have a folder with install-sh and configure, how do i install this program
[10:14] <BrickMaker> rod, i just install theme
[10:14] <drbrown> scram: is that the prob?????
[10:14] <pder> tristanmike NO
[10:14] <ompaul> pder, STOP USING CAPITALS - it is considered to be shouting, ask microsoft to put the spec in the public domain and maybe it can
[10:14] <tristanmike> pder, stop with the all caps please
[10:14] <rod> BrickMaker, how?
[10:14] <Scram> drbrown: i'd try the list of printer drivers of similar models...
[10:14] <Scram> drbrown: what model do you have?
[10:15] <metalsand> slavik: You have any knowledge about wireless PCMCIA cards?
[10:15] <rod> BrickMaker, Does Tango show up in the Icons list from that Theme window?
[10:15] <pder> tristanmike: GET AN IRC CLIENT THAT WILL CONVERT MY MESSAGES TO LOWER CASE
[10:15] <BrickMaker> rod, and then go to icons theme there i see Tango Original so i click on it and system loads but nothing happend..
[10:15] <Stormx2> pder: The fact is that microsoft made a poor file system. And writing too it is very very differcult and unstable
[10:15] <metalsand> I'm trying to install the linux-wlan-ng drivers over the default driver installation ubuntu gave
[10:15] <rod> BrickMaker, try to re-login perhaps
[10:15] <drbrown> scram: laserjet 4000
[10:15] <Stormx2> pder: No, just reach your pinky over to the caps lock
[10:15] <metalsand> Because Ubuntu by default installed the wrong drivers for my card
[10:15] <tristanmike> pder, or....stop using caps, it's a bannable offence, lol
[10:15] <drbrown> scram: and photosmart 7150
[10:15] <Scram> Stormx2,pder : and undocumented
[10:15] <BrickMaker> rod, re-login .. mean restart my system?
[10:15] <slavik> metalsand: not really
[10:15] <steven_> can somone help me, i have a folder with install-sh and configure, how do i install this program
[10:15] <rod> BrickMaker, log out and log in again : D
[10:16] <Stormx2> Scram: Hmm?
[10:16] <Scram> drbrown: i think theres a laserjet 4000 L , too - you havent selected that by mistake?
[10:16] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, I can't play it back but it did burn :-/
[10:16] <LxSedan> i'm getting a cant' find kernel source
[10:16] <Stormx2> Scram: Oh right ;-)
[10:16] <dbglt> Stormx2: I'd have assumed it was the lack of documentation, rather than the failings in the filesystem which have led to poor support... or else FAT systems would sitll not be supported!
[10:16] <dbglt> *still, too
[10:16] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: Thanks.
[10:16] <fissy> NTFS has lots of nice features
[10:17] <Scram> dbglt: well... its both ;) FAT isnt that hard to reverse-engineer... NTFS is, obviously
[10:17] <drbrown> scram: no I have not selected 4000 L
[10:17] <BrickMaker> i will do this later because if i do now so i will lose internet access i don't waste to many calls ... because i'm on dialup
[10:17] <celenk> How do I mount my Ubuntu hard drive in mepislivecd so it can view the files?  It auto-mounted my windows hard drive, and can view that fine, but the ubuntu one can't
[10:17] <BrickMaker> rod, anyway thx!
[10:17] <drbrown> scram: each page does not start w/ the same character either
[10:17] <steven_> can somone help me with this error, when trying to install a program? configure: error: *** GLIB >= 1.2.2 not installed - please install first ***
[10:17] <metalsand> test
[10:17] <fissy> celenk, do you know what device name your ubuntu install is on?
[10:18] <rod> BrickMaker, sry if i couldnt help more
[10:18] <BrickMaker> rod, lol
[10:18] <mwe> celenk: mkdir -p /mnt/?d?? && mount /dev/?d?? /mnt/?d??
[10:18] <tristanmike> steven_, looks like you need that library, search for it in synaptic and see if you can install
[10:18] <celenk> fissy, well it looks like it tried to automount it, /dev/hdd5
[10:18] <thefamousnomo> hello people!
[10:18] <MisterN> hi
[10:18] <fissy> celenk, do you know why it failed?
[10:19] <fissy> dmesg | grep hd
[10:19] <celenk> fissy, it says it can't determine the filesystem type, and none was specified
[10:19] <fissy> that's not good
[10:19] <thefamousnomo> can anyone shed any light...
[10:19] <steven_> tristanmike, i can't find glib
[10:19] <BrickMaker> rod, you having any gtk style theme?
[10:20] <Scram> drbrown: hmm... really troublsome - HP Laserjet 4000 ought to understand Postscript
[10:20] <thefamousnomo> running breezy on thinkpad 600, cpu usage seems to be constantly parked between 10-25%
[10:20] <fissy> celenk, did you load up mepis live because your ubuntu won't boot?
[10:20] <celenk> fissy, it did, however, mount /dev/hdd1 as ubuntu's /boot I believe, and I can look in that fine
[10:20] <thefamousnomo> nothing special on machine, basic install...
[10:20] <thefamousnomo> any ideas?
[10:20] <idefix> hey guys, I installed some programming with apt-get, sort of got it working but couldn't log in anymore with my root account, then I removed it with apt-get remove and still I cannot log in, what is going on here?
[10:20] <mwe> thefamousnomo: run top to see what's causing it
[10:20] <tristanmike> steven_, what are you trying to install?
[10:20] <idefix> mwe, who me?
[10:20] <celenk> fissy, well, I re-installed windows on my first hard drive, and I was looking to re-set up grub
[10:21] <steven_> tristanmike, a plugin for xmms, http://ducts.27b-6.de/cdcover/
[10:21] <idefix> no thefamousnomo..
[10:21] <celenk> fissy, because windows loads by default now
[10:21] <galgoz> I have a pentium 64bit system and was thinking of installing ubuntu 64bit.  are there any concerns I should have?
[10:22] <rod> BrickMaker, I like this a lot: http://gnomelook.org/content/show.php?content=22989
[10:22] <metalsand> what's the apt-get package name for java runtime environment with the plug-in for Firefox
[10:22] <BrickMaker> rod, ok let me check it ;)
[10:22] <nate__> hey
[10:22] <Scram> drbrown: sorry - no clue... perhaps you can change some setting on the printer itself
[10:22] <tristanmike> steven_, are you running Breezy?
[10:22] <metalhedd> is ubuntu's init system identical to debian?
[10:22] <nate__> i need a quick bit of help, is there a BASH command to see what hardware is currently in use?
[10:22] <steven_> tristanmike, yea
[10:22] <metalsand> what's the apt-get package name for java runtime environment with the plug-in for Firefox
[10:23] <metalhedd> I'm having trouble with some services not starting at boot and I'm not sure where to look.
[10:23] <metalhedd> the graphical clients are no help
[10:23] <MickMcMack> :x
[10:23] <timfrost> steven_, install libglib2.0-dev
[10:23] <MickMcMack> !jav
[10:23] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, MickMcMack
[10:23] <MickMcMack> !java
[10:23] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[10:23] <thefamousnomo> mwe: xorg seems to be draining cpu & memory resources!
[10:23] <galgoz> hello all
[10:23] <metalsand> !javadebs
[10:23] <tristanmike> steven_, right, my bad, you need the -dev version when compiling
[10:23] <thefamousnomo> is this down to gui?
[10:23] <drbrown> scram: the only thing that is strange, is that I get the same basic behavior from both hp printers
[10:23] <galgoz> anyone have experience with ubuntu 64bit?
[10:23] <BrickMaker> rod, yeah that one is kinda decent
[10:23] <|PecK|> hey, is it possible to dual boot 2 linux distros?
[10:23] <galgoz> I have a pentium 64bit system and was thinking of installing ubuntu 64bit.  are there any concerns I should have?
[10:24] <galgoz> peck: it sure is
[10:24] <steven_> tristanmike, i got it, it was in the repo's
[10:24] <Cyorxamp> Can ubuntu play mp3's out of the box?
[10:24] <BrickMaker> rod, i downloaded that but i don't know how to install the menu addon
[10:24] <drbrown> scram: it thank you for your help
[10:24] <MisterN> galgoz: i'm using it on a amd machine.
[10:24] <drbrown> scram: I thank you for your help
[10:24] <rod> BrickMaker, me neither :)
[10:24] <fissy> celenk, can you list all the disk devices on that system?
[10:24] <galgoz> misterN: are there any concerns I should have?
[10:25] <MisterN> galgoz: i'm having problems indeed.
[10:25] <celenk> fissy, ?
[10:25] <BrickMaker> rod, lol... i just wanted to give my desktop look like that theme
[10:25] <thefamousnomo> mwe: would a different gui make any odds to the running of the machine?
[10:25] <galgoz> mrN: hmmm, I was afraid of that after reading the forums
[10:25] <Cyorxamp> Can ubuntu play mp3's out of the box?
[10:25] <celenk> fissy, you mean my two hard drives?  /dev/hdc (windows) and /dev/hdd (ubuntu) ?
[10:25] <thefamousnomo> mwe: xubuntu?
[10:25] <galgoz> cyorxamp: I think so
[10:25] <nate__> Cyorxamp, nope
[10:25] <Scram> drbrown: no problem... - you could play with drivers (i once had the feeling you better close the dialog , reopen it and then print the testpage...)
[10:25] <BrickMaker> rod, because i don't like 2 task bar ... i want it like windows Xp has
[10:25] <gplgpl> my ubuntu dapper don't play midi file can you help me?
[10:25] <Cyorxamp> Thats it, I'm bloody reformatting
[10:25] <fissy> celenk, and their partitions
[10:25] <nate__> Cyorxamp, you need to get the gstreamer0.8-mad lib
[10:25] <|PecK|> galgoz: should I just mnt the second distro in a folder like /distro2 ? must I create it? does it have to be in a second partition?
[10:26] <Cyorxamp> this is just stupid
[10:26] <MisterN> galgoz: many things are not easily available (there is always the chroot option though), other than that many things are not really stable
[10:26] <timfrost> !mp3
[10:26] <ubotu> from memory, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[10:26] <galgoz> peck: pretty sure it has to be on a partition of its own, I would recommend a seperate hard disk
[10:26] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, it has worked for me
[10:26] <nate__> Cyorxamp, it's not that hard, just enable universe and multiverse repositories and look for gstreamer0.8-mad
[10:26] <Cyorxamp> they are already enabled
[10:26] <galgoz> mrN: ok, I will install the 32bit version
[10:26] <fissy> celenk,  ls /dev/{hd,sd}[a-d] [1-10] 
[10:27] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, silly me was trying to open it as a filesystem - now all I burnt was ogg files - have no truck with those mp3 things
[10:27] <thefamousnomo> anyone have any ideas? xorg seems to be draining my resources... would a gui change help? xubuntu?
[10:27] <fulldisclosure> ompaul: but you burn as audio cd?
[10:27] <ompaul> fulldisclosure, yes and it plays in cd player
[10:27] <galgoz> ogg is good
[10:28] <BrickMaker> rod, you know how to change splash ?
[10:28] <ompaul> galgoz, :-)
[10:28] <AMDXP> thefamousnomo: it may
[10:28] <|PecK|> thx galgoz! by the way, can i easily resize an existing fs3 partition? or is fat32 easier to resize?
[10:28] <ompaul> thefamousnomo, what speed and class of processor have you go?
[10:29] <BradM> haha
[10:29] <BradM> my new ubuntu 5.10 dics just arrived
[10:29] <BradM> :D
[10:29] <celenk> fissy, I'm not sure what you're asking.  If I do ls /dev/hdd it lists /dev/hdd, if I do ls /dev/hdd1 it lists /dev/hdd1
[10:29] <ompaul> BradM, no #comedy is 41st channel on the left
[10:29] <thefamousnomo> ompaul: pentium 2, 266 i think, 333 at a push!
[10:29] <galgoz> peck: the partition tool in the installs usually do a good job, but you can use gparted to set your freespace ahead of time
[10:29] <Cyorxamp> nate__ - ok I installed it using synaptic but this 'Totem' thing still can't find a decoder for my mp3 file
[10:29] <BradM> ompaul, what?
[10:29] <ompaul> thefamousnomo, then do, >> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop <<
[10:30] <Cyorxamp> nate__ - don't tell me I have to run some funky program in terminal to configure it as well :?
[10:30] <ompaul> BradM, you came into the channel with haha :-)
[10:30] <galgoz> i use xmms to play my mp3's
[10:30] <fissy> celenk, if you run that command, it should show you all the hard drive devices your system has attached including their partition structure
[10:30] <owner> download all the gstreamer plugins cyorxamp
[10:30] <metalsand> What is the command to search reposotries for files?
[10:30] <BradM> ompaul, and? is that a crime?
[10:30] <|PecK|> galgoz: thx m8
[10:30] <idefix> why do ubuntu programmers think in such a different way?
[10:30] <fissy> celenk, do you remember when you installed ubuntu if you let chose an option like LVM?
[10:30] <Cyorxamp> owner - I could only see one
[10:30] <metalsand> If I was using Seveas' repo to find a version of Java
[10:30] <DX> only english speakers
[10:30] <metalsand> What would I search for
[10:30] <ompaul> BradM, only if it is the day that you got your Ubuntu 5.10 cds :-)
[10:30] <galgoz> ubunty lets you choose LVM
[10:30] <BradM> :(
[10:30] <thefamousnomo> ompaul: ill give it a go m8!
[10:30] <owner> ubotu tell cyorxamp about restricted
[10:30] <thefamousnomo> one more before i go...
[10:30] <celenk> fissy, ah, here's the output/dev/hda1  /dev/hdc1  /dev/sda1  /dev/sdc1
[10:30] <celenk> /dev/hdb1  /dev/hdd1  /dev/sdb1  /dev/sdd1
[10:30] <idefix> are ubuntu programmers like Vegans? or more like mensans?
[10:31] <ompaul> BradM, come on man, your leg has been pulled
[10:31] <thefamousnomo> does anyone have any experience with thinkpad 600 sound?
[10:31] <BradM> yes
[10:31] <celenk> fissy, I'm not sure =\ I think I just did mostly default answers
[10:31] <BradM> i need surgery now :(
[10:31] <ompaul> haha
[10:31] <fissy> celenk, ok, i'm confused, apparently you have 8 hard drive/cdrom devices :s
[10:31] <idefix> is it that bad?
[10:31] <thefamousnomo> i have tried almost everything i can find in the wiki and forums have stopped answering http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119865
[10:32] <BradM> :O
[10:32] <celenk> fissy, =\
[10:32] <galgoz> famousnomo: here is a good sound resoucrce http://ubuntuguide.org/#configuresoundproperly
[10:32] <galgoz> that whole guide is a good resource
[10:32] <ompaul> BradM, maybe change victims for "new linux users"
[10:33] <owner> !ubuntuguide
[10:33] <ubotu> ubuntuguide is, like, totally, out of date, reported to break a lot and generally a bad source for information. Use help.ubuntu.com or wiki.ubuntu.com instead
[10:33] <galgoz> the sound section worked good for me
[10:33] <galgoz> that part wasn't in the wiki.ubuntu.com that I could find
[10:33] <idefix> where is this xorg.conf file?
[10:33] <elvin> ok im pissed off
[10:33] <elvin> i installed ubuntu
[10:34] <elvin> but i dont know the root password
[10:34] <elvin> :-s
[10:34] <owner> lol
[10:34] <idefix> guess!
[10:34] <owner> !root
[10:34] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:34] <elvin> it didnt ask for it
[10:34] <galgoz> you don't need the root password
[10:34] <fissy> celenk, try "vgscan --mknodes"
[10:34] <elvin> i want to add a user
[10:34] <timfrost> idefix, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[10:34] <galgoz> sudo
[10:34] <owner> sudo adduser
[10:34] <reon> Hi, anybody know if there is a problem with the backport repos ???
[10:34] <thefamousnomo> galgoz: the wiki has some good stuff as does the forums but nonw of it seems to work!
[10:34] <AMDXP> !freenx
[10:34] <ubotu> freenx is, like, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FreeNX
[10:34] <fissy> celenk, if you have partitioned your disk in a certain way, that might help find the partitions.
[10:34] <ompaul> elvin, use your password - this here is sudo country :)
[10:34] <fissy> celenk, after that command, try seeing what hard drive devices you have again
[10:34] <celenk> fissy, bash: vgscan: command not found
[10:34] <owner> ubotu tell elvin about root
[10:35] <galgoz> famousnomo: I had trouble with sound until I ran the sound configure steps on the ubunto guide and it worked after that
[10:35] <mircea_> hello
[10:35] <thefamousnomo> the thread is http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119865, if anyone has the time to try to help me out would really appreciate it!
[10:35] <fissy> gah
[10:35] <ompaul> elvin, read the link from ubotu there a few moments again
[10:35] <elvin> yeah
[10:35] <omerix> how can i open floppy?
[10:35] <Cyorxamp> if I find wine on synaptic and install it, will exe's just work when I double click them?
[10:35] <mircea_> I am very new to ubunto
[10:35] <galgoz> famousnomo: other than that I have no idea
[10:35] <elvin> ok
[10:35] <mircea_> and new to linux
[10:35] <mircea_> I need help
[10:35] <owner> they do cyorxamp
[10:35] <fissy> celenk, when you installed ubuntu, did you choose all the default options?
[10:35] <mircea_> can you pls help me?
[10:35] <ompaul> !anyone
[10:35] <fissy> celenk, did you let it automatically partition the disk on it's own?
[10:35] <ubotu> probably 90% of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? <hint>
[10:35] <BradM> These Ubuntu 5.10 discs are so sexci.
[10:35] <thefamousnomo> ill go through the guide again galgoz, cheers!
[10:35] <ompaul> !ask
[10:35] <celenk> fissy, like I said, I *think* so.  Yes, it partitioned the disk on its own
[10:35] <yarko> Hi Ubuntoers... I'm trying to setup dapper on powerbook G4... I need DVI out working but all possible configurations using mergedFB stall the beast so nothing works (and no Xorg.log even generated) -- could any one kick me on how to debug it so we know some useful information why it brakes?
[10:35] <ompaul> !tell mircea_ about ask
[10:35] <mircea_> OK
[10:36] <Cyorxamp> bradm - look boring to me
[10:36] <melechorion> re
[10:36] <BradM> Cyorxamp, you look like a homo to me.
[10:36] <nate__> whats the command to get a list of your hardware?
[10:36] <fissy> ANYONE, does ubuntu use LVM2 if you let it automatically partition a disk by itself?
[10:36] <mircea_> How do I change the refresh rate as I can onbly chose 60 refresh and I need at least 85 refresh?
[10:36] <madewokherd> what package has the gtksourceview module for python?
[10:36] <elvin> ok
[10:36] <elvin> got it
[10:36] <ompaul> yarko, your talking about debugging a devel version - trust me on this - it was faulty yesterday and may be okay tomorrow
[10:36] <nate__> whats the command to get a list of your hardware?
[10:36] <idefix> so, timfrost, are there modes of screen resolution somehow? (assuming you know what's in the file you know the location of)
[10:36] <elvin> what if  i want to connect remotely to my box ?
[10:36] <elvin> using root
[10:36] <BradM> nate__, you already said that once.
[10:37] <BradM> Be more specific.
[10:37] <mircea_> My eyes hurt so much that I can't use ubuntu if I can't change refresh
[10:37] <Cyorxamp> BradM - why don't you go get 'sexci' with yourself
[10:37] <timfrost> !fixres
[10:37] <ubotu> Please read http://wiki.ubuntu.com/FixVideoResolutionHowto
[10:37] <owner> tell elvin about ssh
[10:37] <BradM> tell Cyorxamp about stfu
[10:37] <elvin> oh
[10:37] <nate__> i want a list of all the working hardware on my computer, like what video card i have, what sound card i have, how much memory, etc
[10:37] <owner> ubotu tell elvin about ssh
[10:37] <elvin> by the way
[10:37] <elvin> ubuntu is kewl
[10:37] <idefix> timfrost!
[10:37] <BradM> nate__, like df -H?
[10:37] <idefix> arth thou there?
[10:37] <ompaul> elvin, ssh in and then sudo command - give password it lasts ~15 mins so sudo after use stops working after 15 mis
[10:38] <nate__> BradM, well, kinda.  Thta gives me like disk space
[10:38] <Cyorxamp> is there a way of having thr 'Save Screenshot' dialog box -not- pop up when I press Print Screen button?
[10:38] <BradM> nate__, look around www.google.com/linux
[10:38] <nate__> ok...
[10:38] <nate__> i already searched for 30 mins
[10:38] <timfrost> nate__, lshw
[10:38] <nate__> timfrost, thanks :D
[10:38] <B1zz> i want to empty trash can in my ubuntu but when i click to empty it acts like it does.  But when i go to look if anything is there evrything is still there!
[10:38] <BradM> so obvious
[10:38] <elvin> kick ass :)
[10:39] <elvin> thanks guys
[10:39] <ompaul> nate__, and have a look at some values in /proc
[10:39] <BradM> look at /proc
[10:39] <ompaul> BradM, only after you lshw :)
[10:40] <metalhedd> GDM Wont start on boot even though the Services window and BUM say that it should be.
[10:40] <elvin> for yahoo msgr what version should i download ?
[10:40] <metalhedd> what's the deal/!
[10:40] <elvin> they dont have an ubuntu version
[10:40] <nate__> what's /proc?
[10:40] <owner> use gaim elvin
[10:40] <coleco> I just did a fresh install of ubuntu on this computer bbut for some reason X crashes when it trys to start.
[10:40] <owner> ubotu tell elvin about gaim
[10:40] <ompaul> nate__,  a directory
[10:40] <slavik> is there an easy way to switch grub and ubuntu?
[10:40] <Cyorxamp> wow my ubuntu is finally playing mp3's
[10:40] <nate__> ompaul, just figured that out, osrry i'm stupid
[10:40] <Cyorxamp> now if only I can get this display working :S
[10:40] <owner> which card do you have cyor?
[10:41] <Cyorxamp> it's a radeon 9500
[10:41] <Cyorxamp> I have installed the -doinky- drivers
[10:41] <owner> ubotu tell cyorxamp about ati
[10:41] <fissy> celenk, no-one else seems to want to help, and i don't know myself. As i see it, there are two options. One is that you can't access the partition because it is an LVM volume, one that your mepis disc doesn't know how to deal with. The other is that your filesystem is broken
[10:41] <ompaul> slavik, edit >> sudo nano /boot/grub/menu.lst << the number for default is for the menu heading that boots - you will figure it out
[10:41] <Cyorxamp> owner - will you WAIT!
[10:41] <melechorion> ist nu grad einer da, der weis, wie ich Ubuntu bebringe, dass er endlich gcc-3.4 nutzen  soll und nicht mehr 4 ,...
[10:41] <Cyorxamp> cricky!
[10:41] <Cyorxamp> I have enough ubotu hints for one day
[10:41] <ompaul> !de
[10:41] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[10:41] <slavik> ompaul: I was thinking of istalling lilo instead of grub ...
[10:41] <nate__> ompaul, thanks man :)
[10:41] <owner> lol cyorxamp
[10:41] <AMDXP> Cyorxamp: you will get it
[10:41] <slavik> but was told not to, since it's not much use
[10:42] <kevman> Hey, I have an iMac with Breezy on it. But when I play an Audio CD, the sound cuts out about every 3 seconds. Any idea?
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> owner - I was saying I put on that -doinky- its a driver
[10:42] <ompaul> slavik, I would not, were you the person with every third reboot it fails?
[10:42] <celenk> fissy, should I try a ubuntu livecd?
[10:42] <slavik> kevman: might be something with buffering
[10:42] <owner> donky?
[10:42] <slavik> ompaul: no
[10:42] <owner> doinky?
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> owner - then I ran this thing to configure it but I selected a refresh too high I think so I just reset my xorg.conf to normal
[10:42] <kevman> Where can I set that?
[10:42] <slavik> ompaul: I was told that it's not worth the hassle
[10:42] <ompaul> slavik, I would not, << as I said :)
[10:42] <Cyorxamp> owner - don't wanna do it again till I know what I am doing
[10:42] <slavik> ompaul: I was only considering it
[10:43] <Cyorxamp> owner - is there another way of doing it without using all the text based questions?
[10:43] <owner> or use easyubuntu cyorxamp it can install ati drivers for you
[10:43] <nate__> ompaul, where would i find what RAM chips i have in the computer, i added a new one but i dunno if it worked
[10:43] <fissy> celenk, not sure. you could try reinstalling grub first if you like
[10:43] <owner> !easyubuntu
[10:43] <nate__> ompaul, i'm looking at /proc but i can't find that
[10:43] <owner> ubotu tell cyorxamp about easyubuntu
[10:43] <mircea_> Come on guys, help me with that refresh rate
[10:43] <UncleSkunk> Yarrrrr things keep crashing
[10:43] <ompaul> nate__, how much ram did it have before, if you know the answer to that then do this free and see what ram it is showing now
[10:43] <fissy> celenk, hopefully your mepis thing will allow you to do that, the information that grub needs to boot ubuntu should then be on that /boot partition
[10:43] <timfrost> !tell mircea -about fixres
[10:44] <nate__> ompaul, "then do this free" whats that mean?
[10:44] <B1zz> i want to empty trash can in my ubuntu but when i click to empty it acts like it does.  But when i go to look if anything is there evrything is still there! any ideas?
[10:44] <nate__> ubotu tell mircea about fixres
[10:44] <ompaul> nate__, >>>free<< is a command
[10:44] <nate__> oh
[10:44] <slavik> B1zz: that's weird ...
[10:44] <nate__> ompaul
[10:44] <B1zz> yeah tell me about it ;)
[10:44] <nate__> ompaul, thanks so much, you really were helpful
[10:44] <mircea_> !tell mircea_ -about fixres
[10:44] <slavik> free is a command that takes a pointer as an argument
[10:44] <celenk> fissy, sorry to ask, but how would I go about doing that?
[10:44] <nate__> ompaul, have a great day :)
[10:45] <slavik> free is part of the C standard library inside malloc.h
[10:45] <ompaul> nate__, hehe, I'll try is is 21:45 here
[10:45] <Cyorxamp> whenever I browse around a windows share it keeps wanting to log-onto everything - it's gay, how can I stop it :P
[10:45] <slavik> how do I get the trash thing onto a gDesklet? (Candybar to be specific)
[10:45] <Travis__> how do I fix this? ??????
[10:45] <Travis__> checking for glib-2.0... Package glib-2.0 was not found in the pkg-config search path. Perhaps you should add the directory containing `glib-2.0.pc' to the PKG_CONFIG_PATH environment variable No package 'glib-2.0' found
[10:45] <ompaul> free - Display amount of free and used memory in the system
[10:46] <owner> install glib with synaptic travis
[10:46] <eZe> i am in the menu.lst file of grub, but I can't find the value which sets a certain os as the default boot
[10:46] <owner> ubotu tell travis about synaptic
[10:46] <fissy> celenk, http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1&chap=10
[10:46] <tatters> anyone use acidlab, mysql, snort, apache, php?
[10:46] <Olofsson> hello
[10:46] <owner> ubotu tell travis__ about synaptic
[10:46] <slavik> ompaul: you there?
[10:46] <fissy> celenk, scroll down to 'Code Listing 7'
[10:46] <timfrost> Travis, install libglib2.0-dev
[10:46] <ompaul> eZe, that would be >>default<<
[10:47] <Olofsson> i've got some trouble printing, don't know if it's ubuntu or windowa
[10:47] <fissy> celenk, that is the gist of what you want to do, but you have to change what they've said slightly to reflect your computer, which has its disks in odd places
[10:47] <ompaul> slavik, never ask a specific person :) ask the channel I might have been *cough* busy
[10:47] <BrickMaker> hi.. any body have install this theme http://www.gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=22989 ?
[10:47] <Travis__> owner this package isn't avaliable on apt
[10:47] <mwe> what package provides man pages for standard c functions?
[10:47] <yarko> ompaul: yeah - I upgraded it and the bahaviour changed a bit - now MergedFb enforces to don't use UseFBDev option... but it still stalls if I use one of the confugrations with MergedFB...
[10:47] <Travis__> I am compiling it and it gives me that error
[10:47] <owner> do search
[10:47] <owner> in synaptic
[10:47] <Travis__> for what?
[10:47] <timfrost> Travis__, you need the development package, libglib2.0-dev
[10:47] <Travis__> k
[10:48] <eZe> ompaul, just add "default" to the line?
[10:48] <elvin> ubotu tell me about ssh again
[10:48] <owner> there are so many libglib packages just do a search in synaptic
[10:48] <fissy> celenk, i think you'd need to  change the line root(hd0,0) to root(hd3,0) but I'm not totally sure
[10:48] <owner> for libglib
[10:48] <Travis__> timfrost thanks that worked
[10:48] <elvin> ubotu tell me about ssh
[10:48] <ompaul> yarko, you talkin' to me? <think bronks accent> no I idea what were or how
[10:48] <ompaul> eZe, change the number 0
[10:48] <fissy> celenk, is your ubuntu hard drive a secondary ide device on the same cable as your cd drive?
[10:48] <Cyorxamp> is easyubuntu something I should be going for - looks kind of... unfinished
[10:49] <Travis__> now I get this error: /usr/bin/ld: cannot find -lxml2
[10:49] <Travis__> collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
[10:49] <Travis__> make[1] : *** [mpcstick]  Error 1
[10:49] <owner> use it cyoramp
[10:49] <celenk> fissy, well when I do "root (hd" and hit tab, the two options it says are "hd0" and "hd1"
[10:49] <owner> it worked fine for me
[10:49] <ompaul> Cyorxamp, #easyubuntu
[10:49] <dave321> Hi all, I want to change the Refresh Rate of my desktop setup to at least 85 Hz.  The Gnome Screen Resolution widget dropdown only lists 65 Hz.  What do I need to do to change my Refresh Rate?
[10:49] <Olofsson> when i print to a windows shared printer the print seems to be sent from ubuntu to the windows shared printer but it just stoppes in the windows que
[10:49] <Cyorxamp> no one is saying anything in that channel ompaul
[10:49] <celenk> fissy, yes, I have the "master" to the windows hd, the "slave" to the ubuntu one
[10:49] <Cyorxamp> and the website isnt very clear - not for a novice
[10:49] <trappist> Travis__: looks like you need libxml2 and/or libxml2-dev
[10:49] <Travis__> ok
[10:49] <celenk> celenk, err, I mean, it's not connected to my cd drive thoguh
[10:49] <eZe> ompaul, number 0, you mean the first thing in the list?
[10:49] <ompaul> Cyorxamp, wait awhile and then you may get an answer ehre
[10:49] <yarko> ompaul: yeah - you just dropped a reply to my question (5 mins ago or so) -- nevermind though :-)
[10:50] <elvin> owner,  i did sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[10:50] <fissy> celenk, oh, in that case, do hd1,0 if your boot partition is the first partition on the ubuntu disk
[10:50] <elvin> but i still cant connect to my server
[10:50] <elvin> remotely
[10:50] <|37th|Trigger> Hello... I have an urgent problem if someone doesnt mind?
[10:50] <owner> shoot
[10:50] <ompaul> eZe, that number dictates the booting system from the debian automagic list
[10:50] <|37th|Trigger> urm
[10:50] <ompaul> yarko, ahh - let me look
[10:50] <slavik> |37th|Trigger: we don't mind if you tell us the problem right away, instead of introducing it
[10:50] <timfrost> Travis__, what are you compiling?  You need to install the -dev version of all the libraries  your program needs
[10:50] <|37th|Trigger> hehe ok
[10:50] <|37th|Trigger> sorry
[10:51] <celenk> fissy, okay, that says it was successful... now just try it out?
[10:51] <slavik> |37th|Trigger: don't ask to ask, just ask.
[10:51] <|37th|Trigger> i'm really new to linux, And ive forgotten my password :( does anyone know if i can bypass it some how to log in and change it?
[10:51] <e> boot in rescue mode trigger
[10:51] <fissy> celenk, before you do that, bear in mind that you could have just broken your ability to boot anything. do you know how to restore the windows bootloader if everything has gone wrong?
[10:51] <eZe> omaru, ah, i found it, it was at the top, I was looking at the bottom ;) so now I put the 0 away and put it where?
[10:51] <ompaul> yarko, now I am with you, playing cacth up :)
[10:51] <slavik> |37th|Trigger: you need to log in as root ... root is the administrative account
[10:51] <slavik> then change your username's password
[10:51] <jdbush4> if I have a cvs repository setup on my ubuntu installation, what do I need to do to access it from a windows machine?
[10:51] <|37th|Trigger> Ubuntu's root account is locked :P
[10:52] <chx> hi. while mplayer, beep-media-player and all nicely works , I can't get timidity to play music for me. It starts, loads the patches but that's it :(
[10:52] <celenk> fissy, I believe so, using the win cd in restore mode then doing FIXMBR
[10:52] <|37th|Trigger> hence sudo (im not that new)
[10:52] <slavik> that sucks ...
[10:52] <ompaul> |37th|Trigger, NO It is disabled
[10:52] <owner> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about root
[10:52] <slavik> are you inside the system?
[10:52] <ompaul> !rootsudo
[10:52] <ubotu> rumour has it, rootsudo is explained at  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/RootSudo   also see /msg ubotu root
[10:52] <e> well boot up in rescue mode, it will take u straight into system as ROOT
[10:52] <Travis__> whats the command to rescan for hardware??
[10:52] <owner> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about rootsudo
[10:52] <chx> !timidity
[10:52] <ubotu> chx: Bugger all, i dunno
[10:52] <BradM> HAHA
[10:52] <owner> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about sudo
[10:52] <|37th|Trigger> i know about sudo :/
[10:52] <BradM> bugger all
[10:52] <eZe> ompaul, ah, i found it, it was at the top, I was looking at the bottom ;) so now I put the 0 away and put it where?
[10:52] <BradM> ubotu
[10:52] <celenk> fissy, and in the grub setup, it says "partition 4"(which I think is /dev/hdd5) is "type 0x8e" which I don't recognize
[10:52] <ompaul> owner, it is someone he is talkin to afik
[10:52] <Cyorxamp> should I get the latest 'devel' (whatever that is) version of easyubuntu?
[10:52] <|37th|Trigger> c.. Do you mind if i pm you can you can walk me through it? :(
[10:53] <|37th|Trigger> e**
[10:53] <celenk> fissy, just as something to point out? =\
[10:53] <dave321> Hi all, I want to change the Refresh Rate of my desktop setup to at least 85 Hz.  The Gnome Screen Resolution widget dropdown only lists 65 Hz.  What do I need to do to change my Refresh Rate?
[10:53] <metalsand> Can someone help me get my PCMCIA wireless device to work?
[10:53] <fissy> celenk, exactly :) One other thing, you'll want to add the windows loader to grubs config. If you can edit files in that /boot partition you can see, look at 'Code listing 4' for the stuff you need o add to grub's config to get it to boot windows
[10:53] <fissy> celenk, hang on, i'll just look it up
[10:53] <metalsand> The default install of Ubuntu installed the wrong drivers, now it comes up as a eth device.
[10:53] <ompaul> eZe, no you change it for 1 2 3 4 or something which ever you want to boot - it may not match 1 for 1 with the stuff below but you can figure it handy enough
[10:53] <owner> metal the kernel loads drivers
[10:54] <owner> ubotu tell metalsand about kernel
[10:54] <Cyorxamp> owner - should I get the latest 'devel' (whatever that is) version of easyubuntu?
[10:54] <owner> yes cyorxamp
[10:54] <owner> it is perfect
[10:54] <eZe> ompaul, oh, that was too easy :) does memtest also count as one?
[10:54] <Cyorxamp> ok well ill use the command on that page
[10:54] <|37th|Trigger> Breezy Badger is the newest one isnt it?
[10:54] <ompaul> |37th|Trigger, who are you talking to? and what are you trying to find out
[10:54] <preative> i have a question maybe someone in here can help me with...
[10:54] <AMDXP> yes Badger is the newest
[10:54] <owner> go ahead preative
[10:54] <slavik> ompaul: he forgot his user password
[10:54] <ompaul> eZe, it may do but you would regret that choice
[10:54] <selutha> i have a belkin kvm and the mouse goes nuts after switching. I have put in psmouse.proto=bare in menu.lst that is the right spot correct? or is there another fix?
[10:54] <QMario> Hello ompaul!!! :)
[10:54] <owner> ubotu tell |37th|Trigger about password
[10:54] <|37th|Trigger> i feel so stupid :(
[10:54] <slavik> preative: don't ask to ask, just ask
[10:55] <fissy> celenk, it's apparently the code for a Logical Volume Manager partition (LVM). That means out of those options i gave you earlier, it's more likely that your install is safe rather than corrupt :)
[10:55] <preative> i downloaded ubuntu live cd, and booted it, and when it came to the prompt i typed live, and it just restrts my comuter
[10:55] <ompaul> QMario, who told you we were here :)
[10:55] <eZe> ompaul, no, I don't want to boot memtest, just wanted to know if I have to count that one
[10:55] <celenk> fissy, ah, well hopefully it's still there =)
[10:55] <QMario> Ompaul, I found you!!! ;)
[10:55] <preative> since i have a compact precario, with winxp pre installed can i still use live cd?
[10:55] <ompaul> eZe, y9ou can end up not booting if you get it wrong but then you just choose from the menu
[10:55] <slavik> preative: yes, live cd doesn't really need any hd space ...
[10:56] <eZe> alright, thanks, i'll try it
[10:56] <celenk> fissy, thank you for all of your help, you've been very... well, helpful. =)  If it doesn't work, I'll try coming back and asking around
[10:56] <ompaul> eZe, the answer is it is one
[10:56] <preative> how come it just restarts after i type live, it goes back to compaq screen and then to the ubunto prompt
[10:56] <ompaul> |37th|Trigger, what did you do? sorry not following this at all
[10:56] <fissy> celenk, sorry i was slow :P hard day at work today. good luck
[10:56] <tatters> is there a front end for kismet?
[10:56] <celenk> fissy, np =) and thanks again
[10:57] <thefamousnomo> hello people
[10:57] <micsmith> how do I spoof my MAC in Ubuntu 5.10?
[10:57] <ompaul> preative, bios is bouncing like a mad thing
[10:57] <slavik> preative: try jsut pressing enter at the boot menu?
[10:57] <thefamousnomo> can anyone help? thinkpad600 sound probs http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119865
[10:57] <slavik> ubuntu forums are back up :D
[10:57] <tatters> oh thnk god :)
[10:58] <reon> Hi, anybody know if there is a problem with the backport repos ???
[10:58] <preative> yea tried that... it acts like its going to start then computer restarts and then back to ubuntu prompt
[10:58] <BrickMaker> how can i make my gnome panel as XP taskbar
[10:58] <thefamousnomo> tried everything i can find! please anyone with any ideas, let me know!
[10:58] <tatters> lol havent been able to get in for 30 odd hrs
[10:58] <ompaul> micsmith, man this nameif (8)           - name network interfaces based on MAC addresses
[10:58] <preative> ompaul anyway to fix that problem?
[10:59] <slavik> preative: did you try 'linux'?
[10:59] <micsmith> I greatly appreciate that ompaul.  Is that a permanent  alias?
[10:59] <ompaul> preative, it is not a problem - the bios is talking to the box after it figures out that it is going to boot the o/s
[10:59] <preative> so how do i get it to skip the reboot and load ubuntu
[10:59] <ompaul> micsmith, no idea >> man nameif << I presume it would persist
[11:00] <ompaul> micsmith, presuming stuff is the mother of all windows programmers :)
[11:00] <thefamousnomo> hope to hear from one of you! would appreciate! http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=119865
[11:00] <trappist> ooh nameif is cool
[11:00] <preative> slavik i tried live.. and live... somethin whatever the other one was
[11:00] <ompaul> trappist, you will be the mac I tell you :)
[11:01] <micsmith> ;)  Have a good one guys and gals.
[11:01] <ompaul> preative, sorry are you saying that your machine does not actually boot ubuntu at all?
[11:01] <ompaul> preative, or have we a misunderstanding
[11:01] <celenk> fissy, almost successful =)  I'm on ubuntu, and the files are safe, but I'm using safe mode?  When I tried to select the default ubuntu kernel boot, it started, then would flash back to grub
[11:01] <keherman> Is it possible to have KDE/Gnome/XFCE all as options to a user when logging in easily on Ubuntu?
[11:02] <eightiesk> why does my !timezone
[11:02] <celenk> fissy, so I suspect something must be wrong in my menu.lst
[11:02] <eightiesk> !timezone
[11:02] <ubotu> eightiesk: I haven't a clue
[11:02] <celenk> fissy, I'm just not sure what
[11:02] <eightiesk> !time
[11:02] <ubotu> eightiesk: I give up, what is it?
[11:02] <eightiesk> !timezones
[11:02] <ubotu> eightiesk: Syntax error in line 1
[11:02] <eightiesk> my time zone keeps canging.
[11:03] <fissy> celenk, I don't know anything about using LVM really. Could you paste your menu.lst somewhere for all to have a look at?
[11:03] <ompaul> eightiesk, the battery on your mother board?
[11:03] <preative> ompaul... when i turn the computer on, the startup compaq screen appears, after that it begins to boot the iso, wich is where i get stuck... it has ubuntu logo atop, and below it says "boot:" and wants me to type... so i type live, and it restarts my computer and goes back to iso boot screen
[11:03] <CptBrutal> what the heck... browser crashed again
[11:03] <ompaul> preative, hit enter
[11:03] <preative> tried
[11:03] <ompaul> and
[11:03] <preative> just restarts the comuter
[11:04] <tatters> whats best backup package for ubuntu? is there a norton ghost type clone?
[11:04] <celenk> fissy, well I just have one question, what does the line "savedefault" do in the menu.lst?  It's part of both ubuntu(latest kernel) and winxp entries
[11:04] <celenk> fissy, it seemed like when I tried to boot it, that's where it'd get to before flashing back to grub
[11:04] <DShepherd> is anyone using dapper? if so can you tell me if the new evolution can export your contacts to csv?
[11:05] <yarko> ompaul: Thank you Friend. but forget about it... I will torture the beast tomorrow -- now I am off to home
[11:05] <Azunai> hi guys
[11:05] <ompaul> preative, the syntax is avoiding me atm - try this >>set NOAPIC<< on that line
[11:05] <ompaul> preative, maybe all lower case
[11:06] <Azunai> has anyone here heard of knoppix?
[11:06] <preative> new at this... i dont get what you mean
[11:06] <elvin> how exactly i add an user ?
[11:06] <ompaul> Azunai, yeap, but not as much as the people in #knoppix
[11:06] <fissy> celenk, apparently: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/savedefault.html
[11:06] <Travis__> HI, I have a gamepad/controller thing I am trying to get to work with ubuntu, how do I make ubuntu detect it
[11:06] <celenk> fissy, yeah nvm I just found that =\
[11:06] <preative> where do i type that at?
[11:06] <preative> the prompt?
[11:06] <celenk> fissy, where would you like me to post the entries?
[11:06] <Azunai> ompaul, yeah but im on ubuntu i wanted to know if there was a way i can apt-get the iso :P
[11:07] <ompaul> elvin, the easy (GUI) way system adminstration users/groups
[11:07] <celenk> fissy, of menu.lst
[11:07] <rambo3> is there some kind of java console manager in ubuntu  for sun java 1.5
[11:07] <ompaul> preative, yes
[11:07] <timfrost> !pastebin
[11:07] <ubotu> pastebin is, like, totally, a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[11:07] <arm0sfighter> i have a external dvd drive and its reading the cd i put it and i can move the stuff off of them onto my computer but.. i cant write to it and it cant detect it in dvd shrink on wine
[11:07] <fissy> celenk, the thing in the title probably works
[11:07] <arm0sfighter> help
[11:07] <fissy> topic*
[11:07] <emilee> hello
[11:08] <preative> so type "set noapic" and it will run or type more after that?
[11:08] <glacious> =)
[11:08] <ompaul> Azunai, no ftp / http / torrent it -- http://www.knoppix.org or try this one http://www.kanotix.com
[11:08] <Azunai> i did there all really slow sources :(
[11:08] <Dempa> hey, i have a question. Just gave my gf a ubuntu livecd since her win install broke, but the wireless connection doesn't work. Is there a way to fix this without a full hd install?
[11:08] <ompaul> preative, try it, it may need more but that is step one
[11:09] <preative> okay thanks ill  be right back
[11:09] <celenk> fissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7542
[11:09] <celenk> fissy, the recovery mode works, that's why I posted that as well
[11:09] <HS-L> can anyone tell me what are the pro's of running ubuntu as server os instead of just debian?
[11:09] <celenk> fissy, for comparative reasons
[11:09] <ompaul> Dempa, you will need to get the wireless driver for it, (windows one) and look at a web page I will get the bot to send you
[11:09] <fissy> celenk, you see that initrd on the end of your /vmlinuz line?
[11:10] <fissy> celenk, that shouldn't be there, a line break got taken out somehow
[11:10] <Dempa> ompaul,  ok, but will it work right away the next time she boots on the livecd?
[11:10] <fissy> celenk, edit and press enter after the "sp"
[11:10] <ompaul> HS-L, so your desktop and server are the same :)
[11:10] <tatters> ubuntu got a more ring to the name than debian?
[11:10] <ompaul> HS-L, it is more up to date given it started as sid
[11:10] <HS-L> ompaul: well my desktop is macosx :)
[11:10] <celenk> fissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7543
[11:10] <celenk> fissy, there
[11:11] <ompaul> HS-L, well you can install ubuntu there too
[11:11] <celenk> err
[11:11] <arm0sfighter> armosfighter need help...
[11:11] <celenk> fissy, err
[11:11] <HS-L> heheh, well, i've installed it on my x86 machine at work.
[11:11] <ompaul> Dempa, only if you build a script for her - have a look at it
[11:11] <celenk> fissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7544
[11:11] <celenk> fissy, there
[11:11] <fissy> celenk, is that possibly coming about from how you're copying and pasting?
[11:11] <HS-L> but i wondered if it would have advantages if i install ubuntu on my server.
[11:11] <arm0sfighter> : (
[11:11] <ompaul> Dempa, or you could do persistant data on a usb have a look on the wiki
[11:11] <celenk> fissy, it doesn't look like that in console
[11:12] <celenk> fissy, it looks like http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7544
[11:12] <elvin> ubotu sendmail
[11:12] <ubotu> parse error: dunno what you're talking about, elvin
[11:12] <fissy> celenk, ok, i think the sp at then end of your kernel line should read splash
[11:12] <Dempa> ompaul,  ok, thanks. i'll digg som in the ndiswrapperwiki
[11:12] <ompaul> Dempa, that is wiki.ubuntu.com
[11:12] <fissy> celenk, so a bit like my dapper line: kernel          /boot/vmlinuz-2.6.15-13-686 root=/dev/sda2 ro vga=771 quiet splash
[11:12] <celenk> fissy, agh, it didn't copy it correctly
[11:12] <celenk> fissy, it does say splash in file
[11:13] <celenk> fissy, =\
[11:13] <ompaul> HS-L, do you want more current packages on your debian server?
[11:13] <HS-L> ompaul: i assume all the standard packages (apache2 mysql php postfix are default installed?
[11:13] <HS-L> well, at the moment i have an mac osx server, but it sucks
[11:13] <fissy> celenk, ok. did you have to edit the file at all to get it to look like that on the pastebin? did you need to put the linebreak in?
[11:13] <Travis__> how do I use a GAMEPAD with linux its connected to the gameport on the back of my computer
[11:13] <HS-L> ompaul: i'll get my new server next week
[11:13] <bimberi> HS-L: http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/relationship/ particularly under "About Ubuntu"
[11:13] <celenk> fissy, http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7545 there that's how it looks in nano
[11:13] <ompaul> HS-L, no, sudo apt-get install whatever - you might want mysql and postfix but not the others - think what you install gets turned on - why else did you install it :)
[11:14] <celenk> fissy, what do you mean?
[11:14] <celenk> fissy, I edited the pastebin entry, not the file itself
[11:14] <tatters> ive just managed to get mysql-server apache , acidlab, php4 and snort to work on ubuntu, only took me 4 days :/
[11:14] <fissy> celenk, so you haven't edited the menu.lst at all and we're still trying to work out what's wrong?
[11:14] <celenk> fissy, yes, sorry for copying error
[11:14] <fissy> np
[11:15] <tatters> still only been using linux for 4 days so I count that as a result :P
[11:15] <metalsand> I'm trying to install linux-headers but do not know which version I need
[11:16] <fissy> celenk, do you have the safemode linux there? what does cat /etc/mtab | grep " / "  show?
[11:16] <_patrick> Anyone know how to fix sound setup so that sound can be coming from more then one program? Situation is, I get sound on Teamspeak but then America's Army then has no sound and vise versa.
[11:16] <preative> ompaul, it said it could not find the kernal image
[11:16] <metalsand> What is "On 386" imply?
[11:16] <tatters> still no idea what to back up I thought in linux root folder held all the files
[11:16] <celenk> fissy, /dev/mapper/Ubuntu-root / ext3 rw,errors=remount-ro 0 0
[11:16] <metalsand> do I want linux-headers-2.6.12-10 or linux-headers-2.6.12-10-386
[11:16] <bimberi> metalsand: sudo aptitude install linux-headers-$(uname -r)
[11:17] <ompaul> metalsand, uname -a and compare
[11:17] <metalsand> bimberi: I'm assuming that will install the correct ones automatically?
[11:17] <austin_> hi guys
[11:17] <zeb> printer help plz
[11:17] <bimberi> metalsand: yes - in fact it will install both of those (-10 depends on -10-386)
[11:17] <zeb> if i cant get this to work ill have to go back to windows
[11:17] <austin_> could u guys help me?
[11:17] <austin_> http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus
[11:18] <zeb> the drivers are installed, but it keeps printing out blank pages
[11:18] <austin_> I want to install a wireless card
[11:18] <ompaul> zeb, from the menu:::: system administration printing
[11:18] <metalsand> bimberi: Perfect, thank you.
[11:18] <bimberi> metalsand: yw :)
[11:18] <tatters> whats a red box with white X in top right hand corner of a file mean?
[11:18] <zeb> ok
[11:18] <fissy> celenk, sorry, no idea. You could try taking off the quiet and splash options from your kernel line, but if it worked with them before...
[11:18] <zeb> now what
[11:18] <metalsand> bimberi: Would you recommend I Follow this guide (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HowToInstallTheWlanNgDriverInHoary) to get my Wireless PCMCIA device working?
[11:18] <ompaul> zeb, it is a kind of obvious menu system give it a shot
[11:19] <fissy> celenk, explain how it fails again? when you press enter on the top option, it does something and then goes back to grub?
[11:19] <zeb> duh, dude
[11:19] <zeb> already done that
[11:19] <B1zz> tatters that is to kill an app
[11:19] <clinica_psichiat> hi
[11:19] <zeb> the printer is installed
[11:19] <bimberi> metalsand: oops, btw the dependency is the other way around (not really important but i'm a perfectionist :P )
[11:19] <preative> whats do i do when it says no kernal image found?
[11:19] <zeb> but it keeps printing out blanks
[11:19] <austin_> it says to use the curl command in the trtminal.... it doesnt work
[11:19] <B1zz> if the app stops responding that will force close it
[11:19] <ompaul> zeb, what application are you using to print with ?
[11:19] <metalsand> bimberi: Gotcha. About the guide?
[11:19] <austin_> hello?
[11:19] <tatters> its on my acidlab.conf file?
[11:19] <zeb> well ive just been printing test pages
[11:19] <metalsand> Do you recommend I follow it?
[11:19] <celenk> fissy, yes, it happens extremely quickly, like a flash of maybe four lines of text then back to grub
[11:19] <B1zz> opps my mistake lol
[11:20] <B1zz> dont listen to me
[11:20] <B1zz> :-p
[11:20] <flavien_> Hi ! I got a problem with a sound card...
[11:20] <tatters> could it mean that there is an error in the code and its just an alert?
[11:20] <zeb> is there a software i should download
[11:20] <austin_> help plz?
[11:20] <austin_> guys?
[11:21] <tatters> hmm
[11:21] <bimberi> metalsand: sorry, i'm not sure, breezy would have additional modules built in (i can see a prism2 module)
[11:21] <fissy> celenk, sorry, still no idea :(
[11:21] <flavien_> ASRock motherboard has integrated audio. lspci says "Multimedia audio controller: nVidia Corporation: Unknown device 026b (rev a2)". Docs on asRock website suggest Realtek ALC850 chipset
[11:21] <ompaul> zeb, and that tells me the application? tell you what, do this >>> cat > foo << then put some random text on screen for a line or three then do this CTRL+C then type this >>lp foo<< and tell me if you get text
[11:21] <bimberi> metalsand: actually that's a usb module
[11:21] <austin_> some one help me plz!
[11:21] <metalsand> bimberi: I'm in breezy now but I cannot get my PCMCIA wireless device to work correctly, a gooogle search returned this guide
[11:21] <ompaul> !tell austin_ about ask
[11:22] <zeb> what the hell is cat foo
[11:22] <tatters> The Application "nautilus" has quit unexpectedly.
[11:22] <ompaul> austin_, read the comment from the bot
[11:22] <tatters> :/
[11:22] <bimberi> metalsand: i reckon it's worth a try :)
[11:22] <metalsand> bimberi: The drivers that he recommends to download have PCMCIA, usb, ect
[11:22] <tatters> what does that mean?
[11:22] <metalsand> okay. Thanks.
[11:22] <ompaul> zeb, you ask for help, forget it I gave you a set of commands and you ask me "what the hell am I doing" pffft
[11:22] <hypn0> tatters, a crash?
[11:22] <zeb> sorry dude
[11:22] <celenk> fissy, well, what exactly does booting into safe mode do?  I notice no difference?
[11:22] <bimberi> metalsand: note that the kernel numbers have changed (2.6.12 now)
[11:22] <austin_> I want to install a card http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus is the guide I am using
[11:22] <zeb> im a noob, i dont understand
[11:22] <bimberi> s/numbers/versions/
[11:23] <ompaul> zeb, and it was """ cat > foo """ the bits between the "
[11:23] <tatters> hmm it say I can report to developers and fill in form but I no idea what caused it
[11:23] <austin_> the first line is using the curl command
[11:23] <austin_> it doesnt work
[11:23] <ompaul> zeb, can you get a terminal on your screen
[11:23] <fissy> celenk, do you still get a gui?
[11:23] <zeb> i dont understand, should i type that into terminal
[11:23] <zeb> OK
[11:23] <zeb> terminal
[11:23] <coleco> Hi, I just installed ubuntu on this computer, For some reason when X starts it just instantley crashes, I have an AMD 64 3000+ with a nVidia 6100 graphics card, 512 mb ram, and a Asus K8N-VM motherboard. I fogret the name of the program that allows you to use the mouse in a terminal otherwise I would paste the error that X is outputing too :/
[11:23] <preative> ompaul. i typed in the set noapic , and it said that it could not find kernal image. what now?
[11:23] <celenk> fissy, yes, I'm in the gnome gui, just like normal
[11:24] <tatters> whats nautilus?
[11:24] <austin_> anyboy?
[11:24] <owner> ubotu tell coleco about nvidia
[11:24] <ompaul> zeb, correct, please do not use enter as a punctuation
[11:24] <fissy> did you get the normal ubuntu boot logo when the OS booted?
[11:24] <Zorlon> Hello everyone!
[11:24] <bimberi> metalsand: also, i would use checkinstall instead of "make install"
[11:24] <bimberi> ubotu tell metalsand about checkinstall
[11:24] <bimberi> tatters: the gnome file manager
[11:24] <ompaul> austin_, give it a shot again, usually errors with that page are typos or wrong drivers
[11:24] <zeb> it says syntax error near unexpected token.
[11:24] <austin_> k
[11:24] <tatters> ubot tell me about nautilus
[11:24] <ompaul> zeb,                       cat > foo
[11:25] <zeb> ok
[11:25] <zeb> that works
[11:25] <Zorlon> Can someone suggest a nice journal program for Ubuntu? (Like a daily journal)
[11:25] <tatters> like windows explorer?
[11:25] <austin_> doesnt work...
[11:25] <ompaul> zeb, please do not do two lines, put the ok that works on one line
[11:25] <bimberi> tatters: yes :)
[11:25] <tatters> k
[11:25] <Jared> Hi can someone help me?
[11:25] <ompaul> zeb, now type some random text
[11:25] <fissy> celenk, it sounds to me like you're not really in recovery mode
[11:25] <Zorlon> Jared: What is the problem?
[11:26] <zeb> now ip>foo
[11:26] <ompaul> zeb, no
[11:26] <zeb> ok
[11:26] <austin_> What should I do now?
[11:26] <Jared> hi. I made a cd under WIndows xp and want to play it under Ubuntu and its not working
[11:26] <preative> yea mine either
[11:26] <fissy> celenk, the single on the recovery mode kernel line makes the os boot up in single user mode ( i thought so anyway), so you wouldn't have a gui
[11:26] <rambo3> "XML Parsing Error: no element found  Location: jar:resource:///chrome/toolkit.jar!/content/mozapps/update/updates.xml " does anyone know how to fix this problem .       i have sun java enbled , and tested several browsers. can it be java or security  thing .
[11:26] <bimberi> tatters: but much better of course :P
[11:26] <Zorlon> Jared: Do you see it mount under ubuntu?
[11:26] <fissy> celenk, or even networking, i thought, though  icould be wrong on that
[11:26] <Jared> no
[11:26] <Jared> it doesnt mount
[11:26] <ompaul> zeb, L P but lower case >>>> lp foo<<<< the text in the middle I use >>> and <<<< to say that a command is in the middle
[11:27] <tatters> hmm stabilty isnt one of ubnutus key points me thinks :?
[11:27] <celenk> fissy, hmm =\  not sure, it prompted me to log into the gui, just like normal, and now I'm using it, with seemingly no difference
[11:27] <ompaul> tatters, funny that I have boxes running it for an age
[11:27] <Zorlon> Jared: Wait one..
[11:27] <Jared> o ok
[11:27] <Jared> ty
[11:27] <KSean> Hey
[11:27] <KSean> I have two broken packages
[11:27] <robotic> what's broken in my installer if I'm not getting the splash screen and the boot: prompt ?
[11:27] <KSean> It won't let me remove them
[11:27] <tatters> yes u might have but here its just crashed twice
[11:28] <ompaul> zeb, did it print?
[11:28] <tatters> I accept its probasbly user error but I havent done that much so far
[11:28] <austin_> so how do I download something from ftp in the terminal?
[11:28] <zeb> nope
[11:28] <zeb> nothing happend
[11:28] <austin_> the curl command obviously didnt work
[11:28] <KSean> wget ftp://ftp.whatever.com/whatever
[11:28] <KSean> ?
[11:28] <Zorlon> Jared: You know how to go to a console?
[11:28] <austin_> ok ill try
[11:28] <Jared> lol yes im not that dumb
[11:28] <Jared> :)
[11:29] <Jared> what should i typin bash
[11:29] <austin_> doesnt work
[11:29] <ompaul> zeb, what kind of printer have you , and please stop hitting enter between lines where your continuing to talk to me, also so I can see lines aimed at me, please use my nick in the text - that way it will highlight for me
[11:29] <Zorlon> Jared: Dumb has nothing to do with it..it is a matter of experience and research :-)
[11:29] <austin_> it says unsupported scheme
[11:29] <ompaul> !enter
[11:29] <ubotu> please don't use the "enter" key as punctuation! It spams the channel and is annoying. Write in complete sentences and keep your replies and questions on one line if possible. Thanks!
[11:29] <tatters> its pointless me sending an error they want to know too much detail I have no idea of.
[11:29] <jouni__m> KSean check with synaptic which packages are broken.
[11:29] <Zorlon> Jared: Try mounting your cd from the prompt
[11:29] <ompaul> Jared, please see what ubotu said about enter :)
[11:29] <KSean> jouni - it's libnotify0 and libnotify-dev
[11:29] <austin_> somebody?
[11:30] <zeb> ompaul, i have a HP PSC 1210 all in one on USB.
[11:30] <Jared> ompaul i didnt
[11:30] <KSean> it wont let me remove them
[11:30] <KSean> :S
[11:30] <Jared> i used ubuntu for 6 months and this is the first time i put a cd in how do i mount :)
[11:30] <Jared> lol
[11:30] <ompaul> Jared, 2mins ago and just now
[11:30] <preative> Ompaul, my computer said it could not find the kernal image, after i typed in set noapic
[11:30] <tatters> it says here fatal error, but to be honest I feel fine
[11:30] <zeb> ompaul, The printer is showing it is installed on Ubuntu, however, when it prints it all comes out blank, but it is going through the motions like it is printing
[11:31] <fissy> celenk, try rebooting and seeing if it still works, also try windows. if it all still works, go with it i guess
[11:31] <owner> preative type uname -a
[11:31] <fissy> celenk, just beware of kernel updates
[11:31] <bimberi> tatters: lol
[11:31] <Cyorxamp> How can I disable to 'Save Screenshot' dialog box!?!
[11:31] <owner> preative type uname -r
[11:31] <ompaul> preative, there is something else let me find you a set of things to try
[11:31] <tatters> :P
[11:31] <ompaul> zeb, please hang on a minute
[11:31] <zeb> ompaul, ok
[11:31] <DShepherd> Jared, sudo mkdir /mnt/cd && mount -t iso9660 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cd #try that
[11:31] <Jared> o thanks
[11:31] <preative> uname -r
[11:31] <jouni__m> KSean could you reinstall them?
[11:31] <preative> whats that do?
[11:31] <KSean> wait
[11:32] <KSean> It's letting me remove them now
[11:32] <owner> tells you your kernel version preative
[11:32] <KSean> It just says it will remove some gnome things
[11:32] <MisterN> n8
[11:32] <KSean> I'll just install them again via apt-get
[11:32] <DShepherd> Jared, you may have to put sudo infront of the mount command too
[11:32] <mcdenyer> which alsa stuff do i dl for surround sound?
[11:33] <austin_> ok I will restate my problem. I want to follow the directions at: http://ndiswrapper.sourceforge.net/mediawiki/index.php/AirPlus and the first command to type into the terminal is curl -O ~ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630_revB/Drivers/dwlg630_driver_200.zip the "cur" command doesnt work. PLEASE HELP!!
[11:33] <preative> owner, where do i type it at?
[11:34] <tatters> I know this is not what u want to hear but my wi fi card had no probs with Ubuntu
[11:34] <ompaul> preative, I am having issues finding offical ubuntu docs on that
[11:34] <austin_> anybody????
[11:34] <bimberi> austin_: sudo apt-get install curl
[11:34] <austin_> kk
[11:34] <tatters> rt2500 chipset no idea who made it , its a genric card
[11:34] <owner> preative in a terminal
[11:34] <preative> the boot screen?
[11:34] <austin_> thx
[11:35] <bimberi> austin_: yw :)
[11:35] <ompaul> owner, can you run with that one, there may be dma stuff and boot options are not in my field of expertise
[11:35] <ompaul> owner, then can you do a factiod so this fool can pity himself by reading about it :)
[11:36] <tatters> this virus requires win 9X or higher in order to run correcctly?  whats that all about?
[11:36] <ccidral> hi all...
[11:36] <mcdenyer> i have ubuntu should i get alsamixergui-gnome or just alsamixergui?
[11:36] <ompaul> zeb, what make of printer is that?
[11:36] <zeb> HP
[11:36] <ccidral> I want the latest version of the Kernel with support for both Pentium 4 and SMP ...
[11:36] <mlehrer> how easy is it to add device modules to an ubuntu kernel?
[11:36] <zeb> ompaul, HP PSC 1210.
[11:37] <timfrost> austin_, try 'curl -O ftp://ftp.dlink.com/Wireless/dwlg630_revB/Drivers/dwlg630_driver_200.zip
[11:37] <timfrost> '
[11:37] <ccidral> is there a way to upgrade the kernel from the web without having to compile it myself?
[11:38] <theine> ccidral, chances are you will have to compile it. Why do you need the latest version so badly?
[11:38] <tatters> what I dont understand is Y do the ppl that make snort, not make something like acidlab to manage it?
[11:38] <ccidral> I mean the latest 'official' version provided by Ubuntu community
[11:38] <theine> ccidral, oh...
[11:39] <theine> ccidral, you should automatically get it when you update your system
[11:39] <ccidral> that is, 2.6.12-10
[11:39] <theine> ccidral, one second...
[11:39] <ccidral> theine: but I would like to have support for Pentium 4 and SMP
[11:39] <KSean> Hey, where do I change what programs load when I login to ubuntu?
[11:40] <theine> ccidral, sudo apt-get install linux-686-smp
[11:40] <ccidral> nice. let me try
[11:41] <stuart_> how are you all
[11:41] <theine> fabulous
[11:41] <stuart_> glad to here that
[11:41] <ccidral> oh yeah, it's simply upgrading :) very nice
[11:42] <ccidral> thanks, theine
[11:42] <ompaul> zeb, if you have done the menu part, are you using Open office to try and type and print?
[11:42] <zeb> yeah, ive done that
[11:42] <theine> ccidral, you're welcome
[11:42] <zeb> it all prints up the same
[11:42] <zeb> blank
[11:43] <jouni__m> zeb no more ink? which driver you have?
[11:43] <zeb> oh theres in
[11:43] <zeb> ompaul, there is in
[11:43] <ompaul> zeb, stop please, you are confusing me
[11:43] <zeb> ompaul, there is ink
[11:44] <zeb> ompaul, sorry
[11:44] <zeb> ompaul, the driver im using is one i downloaded from HP
[11:44] <ompaul> zeb, stop please
[11:44] <ifwui45> hey guys... is there a way to make it not load the services at startup, the ones I dont need? Like the RAID drivers...
[11:44] <zeb> stop what
[11:44] <ccidral> theine: where have you found it out?
[11:45] <theine> ccidral, I did "apt-cache search linux | grep 686 | grep smp"...
[11:45] <zeb> ompaul, thanx for your help, but im going back to windows. ive had about enough linux for my lifetime
[11:45] <ompaul> zeb, stop typing,  please answer the question you are being asked.  Are all these blank pages coming from Open office
[11:45] <ccidral> hmmm, ok
[11:45] <QMario> How do I manually set my computer's IP Address in the terminal?
[11:45] <ompaul> enjoy it
[11:45] <zoneallarm> ciao a tutti
[11:46] <ompaul> preative, good news I hope
[11:46] <theine> ccidral, but I actually knew that such a kernel version is available. can't remember when I first heard about it though...
[11:46] <preative> no good news
[11:46] <La_PaRCa> Hey kids!
[11:46] <preative> i cannot figure it out
[11:47] <preative> i just keeps says no kernal image
[11:47] <theine> preative, what are you trying to do?
[11:47] <preative> i tried uname -r it said no kernal image too
[11:47] <preative> theine, my computer just keeps restarting when i hit enter, instead of booting ubuntu
[11:48] <Hanowar> Hola!!! "alguien habla espaol"????
[11:48] <theine> preative, are you sure that a kernel is actiually installed?
[11:48] <jclinton> is there a DVD creation program for ubuntu?
[11:48] <preative> no
[11:48] <thenuke> Hanowar: hola! :O Que tqal?
[11:48] <preative> i am not sure
[11:48] <preative> i do not kow how to check
[11:49] <jclinton> i would like to take my home movies to DVD
[11:49] <theine> preative, can you get access to the linux partitions via a live CD?
[11:49] <ompaul> theine, this is for a Live CD
[11:49] <Hanowar> thenuke, Muy bien, amigo tengo un problema con el Mouse, no se mueve, no se si es por que tengo el Mouse puerto Serial. o que. Soy novato en Ubuntu. mejor dicho en Linux, aunque he instalado el Knoppix y Funciona. Asi que no entiendo la verdad.
[11:49] <theine> ompaul, a custom one?
[11:50] <xbox_sky> O.o
[11:50] <thenuke> Hanowar: ooops, I
[11:50] <ccidral> theine: I knew that Debian had such a version in its online package list, but I have not found an online package list at Ubuntu web site.
[11:50] <xbox_sky> !ubuntu tell hanowar about spanish
[11:50] <ubotu> xbox_sky: Wish i knew
[11:50] <preative> i downloaded from internet and burned to cd
[11:50] <xbox_sky> hmm
[11:50] <theine> ccidral, http://packages.ubuntu.com
[11:50] <xbox_sky> hanowar I'm pretty sure there's a spanish room for you
[11:50] <ompaul> dono, I think it is a ubuntu live cd breezy, preative can you confirm you are using a Breeezy live CD?
[11:50] <ompaul> !es
[11:50] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:50] <xbox_sky> try #ubuntu.es
[11:50] <thenuke> Hanowar: ooops, I'm really sorry, I know only few words of spanish =)
[11:50] <trappist> it's #ubuntu-es
[11:50] <Hanowar> Okz
[11:50] <xbox_sky> there you go
[11:50] <xbox_sky> #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es,
[11:51] <theine> preative, so you are using the live CD right now?
[11:51] <Hanowar> thanks
[11:51] <preative> no i am back in windows
[11:51] <ves> Anybody got any good openoffice repositories? "Package openoffice.org2-thesaurus-en-gb is not available, but is referred to by another package." :/
[11:51] <preative> i have been trying to get the live cd to boot
[11:51] <vinilodj> buenas, tengo un problema, creo que las fuentes qyue utiliza muy ubuntu me hacen dao a la vista
[11:51] <vinilodj> es algo raro
[11:51] <theine> preative, I'd strongly recommend to use the live CD if possible
[11:51] <vinilodj> como puedo mejorarlo
[11:51] <fissy> nn all
[11:51] <ccidral> theine: thanks ... packages.debian.org ... it should be pretty predictable huh? :)
[11:51] <ompaul> !es
[11:51] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[11:51] <ompaul> !pr
[11:51] <ubotu> No idea, ompaul
[11:51] <QMario> !Static
[11:51] <ubotu> QMario: I don't know, could you explain it?
[11:52] <lightbright> what would cause a modem to hang up every 30 mins or so?
[11:52] <ompaul> !br
[11:52] <ubotu> Por favor use #ubuntu-br (/j #ubuntu-br) para ajuda em portugues. Obrigado.
[11:52] <theine> preative, makes troubleshooting a lot easier...
[11:52] <vinilodj> alguien puede ayudarme?
[11:52] <theine> ccidral, :)
[11:52] <ompaul> it?
[11:52] <QMario> Ompaul, how do I manually set my computer's IP Address in the terminal?
[11:52] <ompaul> QMario, ifconfig
[11:52] <QMario> Ompaul, are you surprised to hear from me?
[11:52] <ompaul> QMario, we have not had you here for a while that was all
[11:52] <lightbright> ompaul: any ideas?
[11:53] <QMario> I haven't heard from you in a while...
[11:53] <ompaul> lightbright, timeout
[11:53] <ccidral> theine: apt-cache search is more straightforeward
[11:53] <cratel1> how can I get 3d accel. to work with a VIA graphics card on Breezy? This is very important for me....
[11:53] <lightbright> ompaul: what is the solution please?
[11:53] <preative> so, do you know what to do theine?
[11:53] <theine> ccidral, but very verbose sometimes...
[11:53] <lightbright> cratel1: how important is that for you? :)
[11:53] <cratel1> Is there a way I can see the default config file from Breezy when recompiling the kernel?
[11:53] <TomBee> how do I find out the total size of a folder from the terminal?
[11:53] <ccidral> yeah
[11:53] <cratel1> lightbright: we are doing a VJ performance. It's not for games is my point.
[11:54] <ompaul> lightbright, well in the olde days I choose to run this command line >> ping -i 27 www.myprovider.ie << and it used to keep it going
[11:54] <theine> preative, not sure, but it'll certainly be easier to help you when you can access your linux partitions
[11:54] <trappist> cratel1: look in /boot
[11:54] <preative> do you know how i can check to see if i have the kernal for it?
[11:54] <lightbright> ompaul: and in the last 3 days, never happened before, all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error?
[11:54] <theine> ccidral, also, http://packages.ubuntu.com offers you to search the contents of packages which is really useful imho
[11:55] <preative> because it sayd that  it cannot find the kernal image
[11:55] <ccidral> theine: I'll check it
[11:55] <cratel1> trappist: I don't see a config file there that will help me recompile the kernel...
[11:55] <theine> preative, yes, you can check that with a live CD
[11:56] <preative> before i get it to work i can check it or after?
[11:56] <trappist> cratel1: it would be named config-$(uname -r).  you would copy it to your kernel source tree as .config and say `make oldconfig`
[11:56] <lightbright> ompaul: all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error or Ubuntu error?
[11:56] <ompaul> lightbright, to test ram, press escape and choose memtest go for a lonnnnng walk or something maybe even overnight and check in morning - if faulty ram it will show up
[11:56] <jepler> Hi.  A friend and I are trying to build a modified kernel based on the ubuntu kernel, using build-kpkg.  The kernel deb we get doesn't include firmware, such as ipw-2.3-boot.fw.  Can someone point me at the documentation I need to read to get the kernel I build to include this file?  is build-kpkg the wrong thing to use?
[11:56] <theine> preative, that you have to decide on your own I guess
[11:56] <lightbright> ompaul: ok and it ram is clear?
[11:56] <lightbright> ompaul: and if ram is clear? what then?
[11:56] <rambo3> sudo: /etc/sudoers is mode 0777, should be 0440, help ? does reinstall only work here
[11:56] <BrickMaker> Kubuntu cd is free?
[11:56] <ompaul> lightbright, a reasonable amount of time between asking questions is considered to be 10/20 minutes
[11:56] <lightbright> BrickMaker: donations
[11:56] <theine> preative, sorry, misread your sentence... you can check that before
[11:57] <lightbright> ompaul: according to whom?
[11:57] <ompaul> lightbright, yuou have managed to get put on /ignore
[11:57] <lightbright> ompaul: who set the 10/20 minutes rule between asking questions?
[11:57] <BrickMaker> lightbright, i'm downloading Kubuntu i hope they ship kubuntu as well for free
[11:57] <lightbright> ompaul: no need to be nasty
[11:57] <BrickMaker> isn't it?
[11:57] <lightbright> BrickMaker: yeah
[11:58] <lightbright> BrickMaker: chose it from website
[11:58] <jouni__m> cratel1 cp /boot/config-2.6.12-something /usr/src/linux/.config and then load an alternative configuration. right idea?
[11:58] <lightbright> ompaul: but tell me, who set the 10/20 minutes rule between asking questions?  YOU set it?  are you channel founder and OP?
[11:58] <pc3> hellow
[11:58] <preative> well i dont know... this is the first time i have tried any kind of linux, or livecd. i downloaded, burnt to cd, restarted comp and compaqe screen come on, then the ubunto boot screen, i hit enter it restarts and goes back to ubuntu, i try to check settings and it says no kernal found
[11:58] <cratel1> trappist: beautiful! I see it! So can I load that into, say gconfig and tweak it then recompile and I am golden?
[11:58] <BrickMaker> lightbright, what do you think which one is better?
[11:58] <BrickMaker> Ubuntu or Kubuntu?
[11:59] <trappist> cratel1: never heard of gconfig, but if it's anything like 'make xconfig' then yes
[11:59] <lightbright> BrickMaker: i use Ubuntu, as any developer will tell you, gnome is more solid and stable than KDE
[11:59] <keherman> anyone seen this error on bootup --> "device not accepting address XX, error -71" ???
[11:59] <lightbright> BrickMaker: why use 2nd best, why not use the best, get Ubuntu :)
[11:59] <lightbright> hondje: hello
[11:59] <Zorlon> lightbright: Actually in almost all irc channels it is considered correct behaviour to wait 10 or 20 minutes between asking questions...
[11:59] <hondje> Hi
[11:59] <lightbright> hondje:  all of a sudden programs are closing by themselves!  eg firefox closes sometimes by itself!  Is this a RAM error or Ubuntu error?
[12:00] <lightbright> Zorlon: according to what OP?
[12:00] <BrickMaker> lightbright, yeah my friend told me same thing as you said, but what if i like Kubuntu