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hanowars | Ya estoy. | 12:36 |
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hanowars | Solo me dijo eso, que no existe el fichero o directorio | 12:36 |
Burgwork | hanowars, #edubuntu-es | 12:38 |
hanowars | Upps | 12:39 |
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=== Topic for #edubuntu: The discussion channel for Edubuntu - the education version of Ubuntu, download: http://releases.ubuntu.com/edubuntu/5.10/ | Mailing List http://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/edubuntu-devel | Wiki: http://wiki.edubuntu.org | Website http://www.edubuntu.org | MEETING: 11 Jan at 12:00 UTC | Read before installing: http://wiki.edubuntu.org/EdubuntuInstallNotes| edubuntu flight3 released ! | ||
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dan_ | can anyone recommend an app to help a four-year-old play around with music? | 03:33 |
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mhz_cooking | dan_: play with music? | 03:35 |
dan_ | yes, games that covertly teach music fundamentals | 03:36 |
dan_ | something she could use to (eventually) make her own toons. | 03:36 |
dan_ | *tunes | 03:36 |
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mhz_cooking | dan_: hmmmmm | 03:42 |
mhz_cooking | I know there is something to create 'partituras' (those sheets to read music) | 03:42 |
dan_ | does gcompris have some music stuff? | 03:43 |
mhz_cooking | Also, I know there's an application to learn piano basics | 03:43 |
mhz_cooking | dan_: Gcompris and Childsplay are great for young kids | 03:43 |
mhz_cooking | but | 03:43 |
mhz_cooking | as for music stuff.... | 03:44 |
mhz_cooking | they have many applications including sound and effects | 03:44 |
mhz_cooking | but nothing to 'learn music' | 03:44 |
mhz_cooking | dan_: have you tried Synaptics Package Manager? | 03:44 |
dan_ | I typed music and got a lot of audio players | 03:45 |
mhz_cooking | you could search packages by 'category' or 'description' | 03:45 |
dan_ | "music children" returned nothing | 03:45 |
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mhz_cooking | dan_: is your source.list open to universe or still default after installation? | 03:45 |
dan_ | I added universe, multiverse, etc. | 03:46 |
mhz_cooking | okis | 03:47 |
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mhz | dan_: ping | 03:59 |
mhz | dan_: sudo apt-cache show education-music | 03:59 |
dan_ | ok | 03:59 |
mhz | Brahms is a multi-track graphical music editor. It allows score and | 03:59 |
mhz | piano-roll notation, multi-part tracks and drum-tracks. | 03:59 |
mhz | dan_: GNU Solfege is an ear training program for X Window written in python, | 04:01 |
mhz | using the GTK+ 2.0 and GNOME2 libraries. You can practice harmonic and | 04:02 |
mhz | melodic intervals, chords, scales and rhythms, and you can add new | 04:02 |
mhz | exercises using a simple plain text file format. | 04:02 |
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mhz | dan_: at least basde on description.. is this near what you looked for? | 04:07 |
dan_ | I'll check those out, and the others in the list. Thanks for your help. I hadn't tried childsplay and it looks great. Thanks for that, too. I'll have my daughter on the fast track to Julliard / Stanford / MIT. :) | 04:07 |
mhz | based | 04:07 |
mhz | dan_: I am very glad to help | 04:07 |
mhz | my daughter is also 4 | 04:07 |
mhz | and my wife a musician and environment engenner | 04:08 |
dan_ | cool. | 04:08 |
dan_ | Is your daughter getting good with computers? | 04:08 |
mhz | so she'll be happy to know I found something that may help | 04:08 |
mhz | dan_: not yet, but she loved Edubuntu Gcompris and Childsplay | 04:08 |
mhz | at least she can turn it on | 04:08 |
mhz | and of | 04:08 |
mhz | f | 04:09 |
dan_ | Emma loved Gcompris. When I got a Mac and told her that it didn't have gcompris she actually cried. | 04:09 |
mhz | and also manage her own Gcompris environment | 04:09 |
mhz | dan_: lol | 04:09 |
mhz | dan_: lol but i am sorry | 04:09 |
mhz | :) | 04:09 |
mhz | dan_: but you can try Edubuntu on Macs | 04:09 |
dan_ | I made here this page: http://www.personman.com/emma and she can click through and play flash games | 04:09 |
dan_ | ?? | 04:10 |
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mhz | G3 Powerbook, 350 Mhz and 256 MB ram | 04:10 |
dan_ | dunno, I like my OS X. | 04:10 |
mhz | heheheh | 04:10 |
mhz | but you can run it in 2 diff ways: | 04:11 |
dan_ | setting this Edubuntu box up has been a pleasure, though. | 04:11 |
dan_ | dual boot? | 04:11 |
dan_ | I might try that sometime. | 04:11 |
mhz | a) Install Linux and use MacOnLinux which will run OSX in a Window | 04:11 |
mhz | b) partition your HD for each OS | 04:11 |
dan_ | I've never had Linux on a really fast computer, that would be interesting. | 04:12 |
dan_ | I'm going to get back to it, thanks again for your help. | 04:13 |
mhz | dan_: your wellcome and thx for Emma's page :) | 04:13 |
mhz | Can Amaya (my daughter) use it too? | 04:13 |
dan_ | of course. | 04:14 |
dan_ | feel free to use that page, or copy the source and change the name for Amaya if you want. | 04:14 |
mhz | hehehe | 04:15 |
mhz | sure | 04:15 |
mhz | thx | 04:15 |
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sq377 | Has anyone tested using the novell client and edubuntu? | 04:46 |
sq377 | If i can get a computer working well, with linux under their existing setup with novell, they will switch all but the graphics arts class in my high school to edubuntu. | 04:47 |
sq377 | or is edubuntu aimed for younger childeren (the impression i'm getting from the screenshots) | 04:47 |
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mhz | sq377: not aimed necesarily to kids | 04:58 |
mhz | dapper will cover older learners too | 04:58 |
sq377 | ok | 05:20 |
sq377 | is the edubuntu release of dapper going to be with the april release? or some time after? | 05:20 |
mhz | yup | 05:26 |
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mhz | Abril | 05:26 |
mhz | the 20th, I guess | 05:26 |
yennyKa | Hooola a todos!!! | 05:26 |
mhz | yennyKa: hi there | 05:27 |
yennyKa | hi mhz :) | 05:28 |
mhz | yennyKa: what does GLUC stand for? | 05:28 |
mhz | and where are you from? | 05:29 |
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yennyKa | mhz: You know of some document in which it is spoken clearly of the characteristics of Edubuntu (engineering specifications, applications, objectives) among others? | 05:31 |
yennyKa | mhz I'm from Popayn (Colombia) | 05:31 |
mhz | yennyKa: puedes unirte al #edubuntu-es | 05:32 |
mhz | alli esta lguerra, colombiano de Pereira | 05:32 |
mhz | y yo tambien :D | 05:32 |
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yennyKa | gracias mhz ... | 05:32 |
mhz | yw | 05:32 |
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mhz | mhz phone Yagisan | 12:46 |
mhz | :) | 12:46 |
mhz | Yagisan: I am on my way out but I would like to talk to you. I guess you will go to bed soon. When would you get back to IRC? | 12:47 |
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juliux | ogra, ping | 05:43 |
ogra | juliux, pong | 05:44 |
juliux | ogra, do you know if there is any ubuntu dev or motu in the near of hannover ? | 05:45 |
ogra | nope, there is none | 05:45 |
juliux | thxs | 05:45 |
juliux | because we can do talks at the cebit | 05:46 |
juliux | but i have no time to do that | 05:46 |
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lucasvo | xubuntu doesn't seem to use standard xinit scripts | 06:55 |
lucasvo | I installed the xubuntu package on a breezy box with Edubuntu + ltsp, but xfce only worked on the server not on the clients | 06:56 |
lucasvo | what's wrong? | 06:56 |
jair | hello guys, correct me if I am wrong, but most of the games and activities on the edubuntu distro are available to Debian Sarge 3.1? | 06:56 |
ogra | yes | 06:56 |
lucasvo | ogra: do you know whats wrong? | 06:58 |
ogra | lucasvo, did you try sudo update-alternatives --config x-session-manager | 06:59 |
ogra | to select xfce as default session ? | 06:59 |
jair | ogra, may I have a hint of where could I find the list of those games? the thing is that I have couple of computers with Linux Debian stable 3.1 that are already running. And all i would like to do is have all those applications available for the kids at the organization where I work. | 06:59 |
lucasvo | yes I think so | 06:59 |
lucasvo | jair: a edubuntu installation would be much faster :P | 07:00 |
lucasvo | jair: but just try the edubuntu livecd | 07:00 |
lucasvo | there you see which apps are installed | 07:00 |
ogra | jair, http://people.ubuntu.com/~cjwatson/seeds/edubuntu-breezy/desktop | 07:00 |
jair | thank you ogra | 07:00 |
ogra | jair, thats the complete desktop list, there is a subsection for the edubuntu addons | 07:01 |
jair | ogra, nice, I will be installing eventually the schoolbeel or calendar for small organizations, like we are a non-profit one. :) | 07:01 |
ogra | cool | 07:02 |
jair | but I will explore how to installed individually I like edubuntu a lot but I will be using it in a LTSP soon :) | 07:02 |
ogra | ltsp is our core technic, most development is happening in this area for the next release :) | 07:03 |
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juliux | hi mhz | 08:24 |
juliux | mhz, do you have a short text about edubuntu? | 08:25 |
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mhz | juliux: ? | 08:26 |
mhz | hi | 08:26 |
mhz | what you have in mind? | 08:26 |
mhz | what exactly do you need? | 08:26 |
juliux | mhz, a short text what is special for edubuntu | 08:26 |
mhz | and I guess you need it in english? | 08:26 |
juliux | mhz, for a fair catalog | 08:26 |
juliux | mhz, right | 08:26 |
mhz | hmmm | 08:26 |
mhz | I only have it spanish | 08:26 |
juliux | mhz, how long? | 08:27 |
mhz | hmmm,,,, | 08:27 |
juliux | mhz, i need something about 200 words | 08:28 |
mhz | 2 to 4 paragraphs | 08:28 |
mhz | (about 150 words) | 08:28 |
juliux | yes thats ok | 08:28 |
mhz | juliux: but I wont be able to trasnlate it into englih until thursday (maybe) | 08:28 |
juliux | mhz, it has time | 08:29 |
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juliux | mhz, i need it until 31.1 is that ok for you? | 08:29 |
mhz | yup | 08:33 |
juliux | thanks mhz | 08:33 |
mhz | count on that | 08:33 |
mhz | w | 08:33 |
mhz | yw | 08:33 |
mhz | but please remind me to it on thurdsay | 08:34 |
juliux | mhz, ok | 08:34 |
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signifer123 | Hello | 09:10 |
juliux | hi signifer123 | 09:10 |
signifer123 | hey man... | 09:10 |
signifer123 | UTC is GMT -? | 09:11 |
juliux | signifer123, puh | 09:11 |
juliux | signifer123, check date -utc | 09:11 |
ogra | rather date -u :) | 09:12 |
signifer123 | k | 09:13 |
signifer123 | thx | 09:13 |
signifer123 | ehen the next meeting? | 09:13 |
ogra | edubuntu meeting is at 12:00 UTC every wednesday | 09:14 |
ogra | unless the topic in this channel tells something different | 09:14 |
signifer123 | ok | 09:15 |
signifer123 | you guys hold logs? | 09:16 |
lucasvo | signifer123: yes | 09:17 |
lucasvo | fabbione does | 09:17 |
lucasvo | ns1.dynamic-net.ch [62.67.58.76] | 09:17 |
lucasvo | ns2.dynamic-net.ch [81.3.18.135] | 09:17 |
lucasvo | ups | 09:17 |
lucasvo | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeetingLogs/ | 09:17 |
lucasvo | see #ubuntu-meeting topic | 09:17 |
signifer123 | k thanks | 09:18 |
lucasvo | the "middlemouse button" and the normal copy/paste buffer is strange | 09:18 |
lucasvo | one should put them together | 09:18 |
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signifer123 | sorry if you guys jsut didn't feel about answering before i just guess you wern't paying attemtion, but how do you feel about the use of RealBasic to make applications for edubuntu? | 09:21 |
lucasvo | signifer123: atm the edubuntu team isn't making any apps | 09:22 |
lucasvo | they just put them together | 09:22 |
ogra_ | realbasic is nothing we could ship, there is no free implementation | 09:22 |
lucasvo | I would prefer python | 09:22 |
ogra_ | we couldnt ship the interpreter, so we cant build packages ... | 09:22 |
signifer123 | welli ment for me to make apps with? | 09:23 |
signifer123 | because currently i jsut use it for windows | 09:23 |
lucasvo | signifer123: I would suggest you use python because it is 100% GPL | 09:23 |
lucasvo | ogra_: put your cigarette out of your mouth | 09:23 |
ogra_ | if you get an interpreter for linux and are able to install it, why not ... | 09:23 |
lucasvo | ;-) | 09:24 |
signifer123 | well the thing is it doesn't need an interpretter..iwas jsut wondering if this was founed upon like vb is in the windows world | 09:24 |
signifer123 | sincei feel it runs faster :-p | 09:24 |
ogra_ | if you want to produce something we can put into the distro and deliver to people, then lucasvo is right , python, C or C++ are preferred | 09:24 |
signifer123 | ok. | 09:25 |
signifer123 | that include glade? | 09:25 |
lucasvo | yes | 09:25 |
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signifer123 | glade is accepted or not? | 09:25 |
ogra_ | yup, it is | 09:25 |
signifer123 | ok. | 09:26 |
lucasvo | glade is used in a lot of ubuntu apps | 09:26 |
ogra_ | half of the desktop :) | 09:26 |
signifer123 | ohh wow... | 09:26 |
signifer123 | didn't expect that... | 09:26 |
signifer123 | how about java? | 09:27 |
signifer123 | that acceptable like c++/c/python? | 09:28 |
ogra_ | if your app runs with the free gcj compiler, then its fine | 09:28 |
signifer123 | ok | 09:28 |
ogra_ | i.e. eclipse is something we can support, it runs with gcj, freemind doesnt ... | 09:28 |
ogra_ | ... so freemind isnt packaged | 09:29 |
signifer123 | ok | 09:30 |
signifer123 | so pretty much if it runs nativly then you support it, or no? | 09:34 |
signifer123 | lol | 09:34 |
ogra | nope, if the libs, interpreters or compilers are available, we ship it | 09:36 |
signifer123 | o ok | 09:36 |
signifer123 | kinda... | 09:36 |
signifer123 | the compiler has to be free too? | 09:37 |
ogra | the problem is that our build system only accepts source uploads, so the packages must be compilable with the pieces we have on board | 09:38 |
ogra | not strictly | 09:38 |
ogra | we have some java apps that we ship in multiverse for example ... | 09:38 |
ogra | but they will always have to stay in multiverse ... | 09:39 |
signifer123 | ok becuase i'm jsut shooting at making an app in realbasic...it runs as long as the host computer has glibc-2.3, is that ok? | 09:40 |
signifer123 | so that owudl be a multiverse? | 09:40 |
signifer123 | would* | 09:40 |
ogra | nope | 09:42 |
ogra | as i said above, we cant do binary uploads | 09:42 |
signifer123 | yeah...:-p | 09:42 |
signifer123 | need to remember that... | 09:42 |
ogra | if we upload the source, we have no realbasic interpreter | 09:42 |
ogra | so the package cant be built | 09:42 |
signifer123 | ok | 09:43 |
signifer123 | well thanks for clearing that up even though i'm quite dense | 09:43 |
ogra | nah, you arent :) | 09:44 |
signifer123 | ohh aone more thing | 09:45 |
signifer123 | one* | 09:45 |
signifer123 | sorry... | 09:45 |
signifer123 | i remember a edubuntu video thing where a guy was making video showing how to do stuff in edubuntu | 09:46 |
signifer123 | how do i get in on that? | 09:46 |
signifer123 | or is that individual | 09:46 |
ogra | you mean you want to make a video ? | 09:46 |
ogra | i'm not aware of such a project... | 09:46 |
signifer123 | it wasn't a project | 09:47 |
signifer123 | i beleive it was on the mailing list | 09:47 |
signifer123 | or in the forum | 09:47 |
ogra | but you can install istanbul and take desktop videos | 09:47 |
ogra | its pretty easy | 09:47 |
signifer123 | ok | 09:48 |
signifer123 | thanks | 09:48 |
signifer123 | i'll probably be back to bug you later :-p | 09:48 |
ogra | just go on, thats what this channel is for ;) | 09:49 |
jair | ogra, Thank you very much for all the help, I will be probably helping with the translation to Spanish in the schooltool project :) | 09:51 |
ogra | cool :) | 09:51 |
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signifer123 | does edubuntu have nything like algebrator? | 09:59 |
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signifer123 | none? | 10:15 |
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signifer123 | lol | 10:21 |
signifer123 | anyone here play with glade? | 10:21 |
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