[12:16] <Riddell> Tonio_: did you have any changes to the konqueror setup?
[12:18] <Tonio_> Riddell: not actually, but I think about it....
[12:18] <Tonio_> I few ideas in my heads
[12:20] <raphink> welcome JRe :)
[12:20] <JRe> hi raphink 
[12:20] <raphink> how are you JRe ?
[12:20] <JRe> fine! and you?
[12:20] <raphink> good :)
[12:21] <JRe> I am about to release keep 0.2.3 ;)
[12:21] <raphink> JRe: put you as admin, feel free to change things around
[12:21] <JRe> raphink: ok
[12:22] <Tonio_> JRe: last version before accepted to universe ? ^^
[12:22] <JRe> Tonio_: yes ;)
[12:23] <JRe> Tonio_: and with po files now :)
[12:23] <JRe> Tonio_: (br, da, el, ga, pt, sv)
[12:24] <raphink> el?
[12:24] <raphink> ga?
[12:24] <raphink> and sv?
[12:24] <raphink> what are these?
[12:24] <raphink> :s
[12:26] <Riddell> slovac
[12:26] <Riddell> el might be greek
[12:26] <Riddell> ga could be gaelic but I suspect not
[12:27] <raphink> mhm
[12:32] <JRe> Riddell: ga is gaelic
[12:35] <Riddell> JRe: real Gaelic or Irish Gaelic?
[12:36] <JRe> Riddell: Irish one
[05:25] <Tm_T> good morning
[10:20] <viviersf> Riddell, ping
[11:02] <Riddell> viviersf: pong
[11:02] <viviersf> :)
[11:02] <viviersf> dude
[11:03] <viviersf> the callender in kontact etc
[11:03] <viviersf> scheduling meetings / reminders
[11:03] <viviersf> why does it use the system clock and not kde's clock ?
[11:06] <Riddell> KDE doesn't have a clock
[11:06] <Riddell> there is only the system clock
[11:16] <viviersf> :/
[11:16] <viviersf> kde time
[11:17] <viviersf> is not the same as the system clock
[11:17] <viviersf> cos you can choose timezones
[11:17] <viviersf> then you want the alarm to go off on the correct time
[11:17] <viviersf> but it doesnt cos the system time is different
[11:18] <Riddell> you can tell the clock applet to show a different timezone
[11:18] <Riddell> but that doesn't change anything else, just what the clock applet shows you
[11:32] <Tonio_> hi raphink , hi all
[12:36] <Tonio_> Riddell: JRe's application is waiting or you (when you have time) :) http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1601
[12:37] <Riddell> ooh, cool
[12:38] <Tonio_> I'm gonna be the official maintainer, cause JRe asked me, and I will probably post a ITP todebian
[12:43] <freeflying_> Riddell: hi
[12:44] <Riddell> hi freeflying_ 
[12:44] <freeflying_> Riddell:  got cd from you
[12:44] <freeflying_> Riddell: thx
[12:45] <Riddell> freeflying_: cool
[12:46] <freeflying_> Riddell: I'd ask the maininclusionreport of scim again . :)
[12:47] <Riddell> freeflying_: is skim still broken in dapper?
[12:48] <freeflying_> Riddell: skim should recompile against scim-1.4.4
[12:48] <freeflying_> Riddell: I have no problem with scim or skim in dapper now 
[01:00] <Riddell> freeflying_: is this still a problem? https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/qt-x11-free/+bug/28590
[01:13] <freeflying> Riddell: I had a test on that bugs again ,scim and skim work well in any condition
[01:14] <Riddell> fantastic
[01:16] <Riddell> freeflying: there's a community council meeting at 21:00UTC today, you should go for membership
[01:17] <freeflying> Riddell: 21:00UTC means UTC+0 time ?
[01:17] <Riddell> use  `date --utc` to find out utc time
[01:18] <Riddell> it's in 8 hours and 40 minutes
[01:19] <freeflying> Riddell: how shall I do to apply for that ? thx
[01:20] <Riddell> freeflying: read https://wiki.kubuntu.org/NewMemberHowto
[01:20] <Riddell> then add your name after Tonio_ to https://wiki.kubuntu.org/CommunityCouncilAgenda
[01:21] <Riddell> make sure your wiki page is up to date and shows what you've been doing for kubuntu
[01:21] <Riddell> and turn up at the meeting where you'll be asked to introduce what you do
[02:11] <Riddell> test 3.5.1 for dapper!  deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde351-dapper-testing/ ./
[02:16] <Tm_T> :)
[02:37] <freeflying> Riddell: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/Freeflying
[02:39] <Riddell> freeflying: looks great
[02:39] <freeflying> Riddell: thx
[02:40] <Tm_T> agreed
[02:41] <viviersf> Riddell, kde 3.5.1 out ????
[02:41] <Riddell> but not seth or jpatrick for membership
[02:41] <Riddell> viviersf: not yet, still in testing
[02:41] <viviersf> kk
[02:41] <viviersf> but almost ?
[02:42] <Riddell> viviersf: don't have an exact date but end of this week or early next I'd say
[02:42] <viviersf> kewl stuff
[02:42] <viviersf> :D
[02:59] <apokryphos> Tonio_: you should add klibido to the list on your wiki. It's been my (and a lot of others') saving grace 8)
[03:00] <apokryphos> ah, actually looks like you have the labelling wrong -- klibido is labelled as "Amarok Webfront", while all the other info is there. Changing that....
[03:03] <Tonio_> apokryphos: I'm just working on it :)
[03:03] <Tonio_> My wiki is really unmaintained at the moment :)
[03:03] <apokryphos> ah, ok
[03:03] <apokryphos> needless to say, pretty impressive :P
[03:11] <Tonio_> I just had lots of time in a period ;)
[03:26] <\sh> Riddell: I checked qt4 , and removed the build dep on xlibs-static-dev...should be ok now to install...
[03:27] <\sh> Riddell: oh and removed the xlibs-static-pic dependency of libqt4-dev
[03:28] <Riddell> \sh: thanks
[03:28] <\sh> Riddell: if it's ok, I'll upload
[03:30] <Riddell> \sh: please do
[03:31] <\sh> Riddell: done
[03:52] <jjesse> wow 400 packages need to updated from a fresh install of flight 3
[03:54] <jsgotangco> yeah
[03:54] <jsgotangco> its worth it though
[03:55] <jsgotangco> but i still have to reconfigure my interfaces everytime i boot :/
[04:34] <Tonio_> Riddell: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AnthonyMercatante <- is it okay or should I detail a bit more according to you ?
[04:38] <Riddell> Tonio_: looks good
[04:39] <Tonio_> Riddell: thanks
[04:42] <jsgotangco> oohhh 
[04:52] <mornfall> what's with those wiki pages?
[04:56] <Tonio_> mornfall: certain of us are introducing at the CC toonight, and that requires a clean wiki page
[04:56] <jsgotangco> probably for CC
[04:56] <mornfall> CC?
[04:56] <Riddell> they're going for ubuntu membership
[04:56] <Riddell> community council
[04:57] <Riddell> a council of elite ubuntu people who approve membreships and are used to decide on difficult community issues
[04:57] <Riddell> or give advice
[04:58] <mornfall> what does ubuntu membership mean?
[04:59] <Riddell> it's a recognition of your contribution to ubuntu
[04:59] <Riddell> it also means you get to vote on the community council members
[04:59] <mornfall> ah, ok
[05:00] <Riddell> and it's the first step towards developer access to universe then main (which is approved by the technical board)
[05:00] <Riddell> also some groups use it as a way of giving access, like the ubuntu doc svn archive 
[05:01] <jsgotangco> we're not as elite as devels like Riddell but we do have server access to some sorts :)
[05:02] <jsgotangco> Riddell, hmm speakin of doc, are there going to be more menu changes in coming milestones?
[05:03] <Riddell> jsgotangco: the k-menu?
[05:03] <jsgotangco> Riddell, yep
[05:03] <Riddell> jsgotangco: I don't expect so no
[05:04] <Riddell> excellent :)
[05:04] <jsgotangco> yeah i figure i'll be able to put it just in time for flight 4
[05:05] <allee> Tonio_: impressive wiki.  When this get's minimum standard I'll never dare to apply for membership
[05:06] <Tonio_> allee: are you kidding ? I've searched your name on Google, your free software contribution is by far greater that what I would ever do in my dreams :)
[05:09] <jsgotangco> what is the  "I feel lucky" result? :)
[05:14] <Riddell> Mez!
[05:15] <Riddell> Mez: how are backports controlled?
[05:15] <Mez> how do you mea n?
[05:16] <Riddell> if I want to use backports for KDE 3.5.1 I would need to be able to control it so the backports appeared at just the right time for relesae
[05:16] <Riddell> release
[05:16] <Riddell> is that possible?
[05:16] <Mez> Riddell as long as the package were to build on both Dapper and Breezy - theoretically yes
[05:16] <Mez> James just gives them to the buldd's from dapper
[05:17] <Mez> simly
[05:17] <Riddell> simly?
[05:17] <Mez> we poke james - james gives the packages from dapper to the buildds to build for breezy
[05:17] <Mez> simply*
[05:17] <Mez> my p isnt working
[05:17] <Mez> properly
[05:18] <Riddell> Mez: where do the build logs appear?
[05:18] <Mez>  same place as they appear usually
[05:19] <Riddell> how responsive is elmo to requests?
[05:19] <Mez> http://people.ubuntulinux.org/~lamont/buildLogs/k/katapult/
[05:19] <Mez> he's pretty responsive to requests
[05:19] <Mez> put it this way
[05:19] <Mez> the last upload you did of katapult is already backported
[05:19] <Mez> but I'm sure if you get him before and ask him nicely then it'll be cool
[05:20] <Mez> though - you've gotta be sure that the dapper source will build on breezy too
[05:20] <Mez> because thats what our job is
[05:20] <Mez> hence why people cant just willy nilly request them
[05:20] <Mez> but it'd be uber to see it in backports
[05:21] <Riddell> the difficult bit is control magling
[05:21] <Mez> however - is this going to be similar to problems before ... ?
[05:21] <Mez> control magling ?
[05:21] <Riddell> since breezy meeds c2 arts and kdelibs and dapper needs c2a
[05:21] <Mez> why it need to be angles
[05:21] <Mez> hmmles
[05:21] <Riddell> so debian/control needs different versions based on distro
[05:21] <Mez> yeah that would be a PITA
[05:21] <Riddell> which I guess is possible using something simliar to the cdbs control.in thingy
[05:22] <Mez> *shrugs*
[05:22] <Mez> maybe
[05:22] <Mez> I've never tried
[05:22] <Riddell> no, me neither :)
[05:22] <Mez> If you can make it so it builds fine on breezy with no problems from dapper source
[05:22] <Mez> go for it
[05:22] <Mez> I'll be happy to hae it in backports
[05:22] <Mez> but - if it requires any manual changes
[05:22] <Mez> then not really possible
[05:23] <Riddell> yep
[05:23] <jsgotangco> i gotta sleep good night
[05:23] <Riddell> night jsgotangco 
[06:04] <jpatrick> freeflying: ping
[06:24] <nlindblad> jpatrick: ping
[06:25] <jpatrick> nlindblad: evening
[06:25] <nlindblad> evening
[06:25] <nlindblad> how are you?
[06:25] <allee> jpatrick: hi
[06:25] <jpatrick> oh, fine, (better than sometimes)
[06:25] <jpatrick> allee: hello, sir
[06:26] <allee> jpatrick: you know what I want to ask ;)
[06:26] <jpatrick> err...
[06:26] <jpatrick> what?
[06:26] <allee> jpatrick: didn't read e-mail? ;)  What's the status of kmplayer?
[06:27] <teprrr> any developers around who could look at my packages?
[06:27] <teprrr> and how to deal debian packages made by the author of the application if I'd like to get them into ubuntu repos?
[06:27] <jpatrick> allee: Oh, (haven't got round to checking mail) trying to get the debian/*.install files to put the binaries into the right packages
[06:28] <allee> teprrr: I'm not aware that this makes a difference
[06:28] <teprrr> allee, mmh..
[06:28] <allee> jpatrick: that's fun I know.  utils.mk has a list-missing target of something that help you find missing files
[06:29] <allee> s/of/or
[06:29] <jpatrick> allee: so far it makes one big package and three empty packages
[06:30] <allee> jpatrick: have a look at kdesvn kmplayer has a debian dir and *.install files
[06:30] <mornfall> Tonio_: ping
[06:30] <jpatrick> allee: I'm using those ones
[06:30] <Tonio_> mornfall: pong
[06:31] <mornfall> Tonio_: what license is attached to your adept icons?
[06:31] <mornfall> Tonio_: and please give some reasonable copyright line :)
[06:31] <Tonio_> mornfall: never thought about it, but of course gpl :)
[06:31] <allee> jpatrick: oh,  mhmm, I rebuild them once lemme check ...
[06:31] <mornfall> Tonio_: bah, that's 3rd license in adept :|
[06:31] <mornfall> Tonio_: could they be LGPL or BSD? :-)
[06:32] <Riddell> icons in KDE should be at least LGPL normally
[06:32] <Tonio_> hum, even though I know the main differences between lgpl and gpl concerning the source code
[06:33] <Tonio_> I don't know what it can change for an icon....
[06:33] <mornfall> i'd guess under gpl, things like screenshot would be dubious :)
[06:33] <Tonio_> mornfall: consider that the icons are yours, and part of the global program, so use the same global licence ;)
[06:33] <Tonio_> if it is lgpl, then go with it....
[06:33] <mornfall> that'd be BSD, thanks :)
[06:34] <mornfall> the nuvola icons are under LGPL
[06:34] <mornfall> it doesn't really matter much
[06:34] <allee> jpatrick: mhm, after debuild,  does ls `cat debian/kmplayer*.install` work?
[06:34] <mornfall> i just need to stick something into debian/copyright
[06:34] <Tonio_> I absolutly don't mind... it is not like if I had put 3000 lignes of C
[06:34] <Riddell> teprrr: give us a URL and we'll look at the package
[06:34] <Riddell> teprrr: revu is best
[06:34] <jpatrick> Riddell: I'll be there
[06:34] <allee> jpatrick: last was wrong.  needs |awk too ...
[06:35] <Tonio_> but thanks for asking mornfall ;)
[06:35] <Riddell> teprrr: doesn't matter who makes the package but generally its best to keep the debian directory out of the .orig
[06:35] <jpatrick> allee: okay I'll give that a bash
[06:35] <Riddell> jpatrick: yay!
[06:35] <jpatrick> Riddell: how long does it take to become an MOTU? ;)
[06:36] <Riddell> jpatrick: dunno, back in my day I just turned up and asked
[06:36] <Riddell> but then I was the first
[06:36] <Riddell> usually a couple of months of packaging experience or so
[06:36] <allee> jpatrick: ls `cat debian/wlassistant.install | awk '{print $1}'`  # > /dev/null # to only see the wrong paths
[06:36] <Riddell> jpatrick: so turn up at the next tech board and I'll support you there too
[06:36] <Riddell> hello _maydayjay_ 
[06:37] <teprrr> Riddell, http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1581 & http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1568
[06:37] <mornfall> Tonio_: i hope you have ircname set right, since that's what i am using for Copyright ;-)
[06:37] <teprrr> Riddell, well. the author distributes the debian dir on his source tarball, and that's where the debian package is created
[06:37] <jpatrick> Riddell: yes, sir
[06:38] <teprrr> pbuilder seems to build the package fine.. just changed compat 4->5 and changed relevant debhelper requirement
[06:38] <Riddell> jpatrick: I'm not knighted
[06:39] <Tonio_> hum
[06:39] <Tonio_> mornfall: it is my real name
[06:39] <mornfall> Tonio_: that's good
[06:40] <mornfall> this is about the 3rd time i'm fixing it
[06:40] <mornfall> :|
[06:42] <jpatrick> allee: that won't work using pbuilder...
[06:44] <Riddell> pef!
[06:45] <pef> hello
[06:45] <pef> Riddell: heya
[06:48] <Riddell> pef: coming to the community meeting tonight at 21:00UTC?
[06:49] <Riddell> we've got a few people to support into membership
[06:49] <pef> Riddell: it's in about 2 hours, isn't it ?
[06:49] <Riddell> 3
[06:51] <pef> arg, won't have net access, again.
[06:51] <Riddell> why not?
[06:57] <pef> Riddell: since several months my car is broken, so my girlfriend comes on evening to bring me at her home, and on morning she can drives me to work. And she hasn't net access for now
[06:57] <pef> that's why I'm never connected on evening after 8/9pm :/
[06:58] <jpatrick> allee: I think I found the problem - I'm going to pbuild it before putting it into REVU
[06:59] <mornfall> Riddell: btw, in case adept gets into unstable, could it be synced from there?
[06:59] <mornfall> Riddell: or do you want to do separate uploads?
[07:00] <Riddell> mornfall: either is fine, just whichever is best depending on timing
[07:00] <mornfall> Riddell: there's http://lorien.mornfall.net:8012/m/ept_1.88.2.tar.gz which fixes the evil crasher
[07:01] <mornfall> Riddell: but it needs libapt-front 0.3.5 
[07:01] <mornfall> Riddell: which means that one needs to be synced from unstable
[07:02] <Riddell> mornfall: dapper has libapt-front 0.3.5ubuntu1
[07:05] <Riddell> mornfall: we also have ept 1.89ubuntu1
[07:05] <mornfall> Riddell: 89? interesting :)
[07:05] <mornfall> Riddell: bump versions as appropriate then
[07:06] <mornfall> does ubuntu need to have a higher version than corresponding debian one? and couldn't it be done with +ubuntu?
[07:06] <Riddell> need for what?
[07:07] <mornfall> no damn idea
[07:07] <mornfall> but 0.3.4 debian -> 0.3.5ubuntu1
[07:07] <mornfall> ept 1.88 -> 1.89ubuntu1
[07:08] <Riddell> the ubuntu1 is the bump in version number, the other version number is the upstream bit which is whatever you gave me
[07:09] <mornfall> hmm, really? then i must have confused something
[07:09] <mornfall> since alpha 1 is 1.88 and alpha 2 1.89 in the roadmap
[07:09] <Riddell> oh.  hum.
[07:09] <mornfall> i also have 1.88 in my debian/changelog
[07:09] <Riddell> looks like it was my fault
[07:10] <mornfall> no matter
[07:11] <mornfall> as for libapt-front, i may as well forgot about the ubuntu release and use 0.3.5 again
[07:12] <mornfall> i'd say for adept, keep the versions on 1.89ubuntuX till alpha 2
[07:12] <mornfall> and for libapt-front, 0.3.5ubuntu2 for what is 0.3.5 in debian
[07:12] <Riddell> yep
[07:13] <mornfall> IIRC the 0.3.5ubuntu1 was a sort of pre-release for adept alpha anyway
[07:19] <Riddell> teprrr: 1 comment http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1581
[07:22] <nlindblad> man, 26.5GiB now
[07:23] <nlindblad> and it's only been a week
[07:25] <jjesse> is that downloads from a mirror nlindblad 
[07:26] <nlindblad> seeding the torrents for i386 (both Live and Install)
[07:26] <jjesse> wow
[07:27] <teprrr> Riddell, you mean upstream of kde port or upstream of _the original_?
[07:27] <teprrr> Riddell, kde port has it there. should I move it into debian/ anyway?
[07:28] <Riddell> teprrr: the alphawin package has it there?
[07:28] <Riddell> teprrr: how come you need a custom install rule then?
[07:36] <teprrr> Riddell, well, original package from kdelook has it. and for me it looks like it isn't installing the file at all.
[07:37] <teprrr> Riddell, and just confirmed, it isn't installing the scheme file at all :)
[07:37] <Riddell> teprrr: str
[07:37] <Riddell> teprrr: strange
[07:37] <Riddell> teprrr: but solved the problem then, I'll approve it
[07:39] <teprrr> okay
[07:39] <Riddell> teprrr: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1581 approved!
[07:39] <Riddell> teprrr: poke someone else into reviewing, pef_aw or raphink maybe
[07:39] <Riddell> then we can upload
[07:40] <pef> teprrr: will review it
[07:41] <pef> On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'
[07:41] <pef> teprrr: just add -2 to the path
[07:41] <pef> On Debian systems, the complete text of the GNU General Public License can be found in `/usr/share/common-licenses/GPL'
[07:41] <Riddell> pef: why does he need to do that?
[07:42] <teprrr> pef, Riddell said earlier to use GPL, as -2 is too restrictive or something :P
[07:42] <teprrr> it used to be -2 :)
[07:42] <teprrr> (gotten from some example file)
[07:43] <pef> oh ok
[07:43] <pef> the rest of the package is ok for me
[07:44] <Riddell> teprrr: a couple of minor issues here http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1568
[07:44] <teprrr> Riddell, nice :)
[07:45] <teprrr> for what are those docs & dirs used actually? they're from dh_make I think.. :P
[07:45] <Riddell> teprrr: docs are files that should go into /usr/share/doc/<packagename> but debhelper looks for some common filenames even without it
[07:45] <Riddell> and dirs is for when there's nothing else making a needed directory, but that's not the case here
[07:46] <Riddell> since make install will make it
[07:46] <teprrr> understood, removed them
[07:46] <Riddell> make sure you test it still, I could be wrong
[07:47] <teprrr> yup, compiling now
[07:56] <Riddell> teprrr: kwin-style-alphacube uploaded, thanks for your package
[07:57] <Riddell> teprrr: it'll go into the NEW queue where it'll be checked for sanity in the next couple of days
[07:57] <Riddell> then you need to make sure it compiles correctly
[07:57] <Riddell> by watching the buildlogs
[07:57] <Riddell> then you can relax
[07:58] <teprrr> ookay, thanks :)
[07:59] <teprrr> jpatrick, how's that?
[08:00] <jpatrick> teprrr: I have to do homework
[08:01] <teprrr> ouch :/
[08:01] <allee> teprrr: remove cdbs_kde_enable_debug = --disable-debug,  no longer needed.  Was and is a hack
[08:02] <teprrr> allee, hmm.
[08:02] <jpatrick> allee, Riddell: kmplayer in REVU
[08:02] <allee> teprrr: copyright holder: no year specified
[08:02] <teprrr> allee, you're talking about kboggle or alphacube?
[08:03] <jpatrick> allee: still have to apply the guys suggested patches
[08:03] <allee> teprrr: alphacube.  I introduced this hack long ago to work around a cdbs 'bug' that's fixed
[08:05] <allee> teprrr: shouldn't there be a depend or at least enhances on kwin?  Pkg useless without I assume
[08:06] <teprrr> 2005-2006 Ciccio Bueo <saccaro@email.it> 2005-2006 (Original) -- something like this?
[08:06] <jjesse> Riddell: can you please change the style sheet for quickguide
[08:06] <jjesse> and make it look as good as releasenotes?
[08:07] <teprrr> allee, Depends: kdelibs4c2a (>= 4:3.5.0), kwin (>= 4:3.5-rc1-1) at least in here
[08:08] <allee> teprrr: oh, only looked at the diff. Interesting that kwin get's pulled in.  Ah kwin contains lots of libs too. Sorry for false alarm
[08:09] <teprrr> okay. so, should I just add copyright years like that and reput it into revu?
[08:12] <allee> yeap. Listing 2005-2006 once is enough: (C) 2005-2006 Ciccio Bueo <saccaro@email.it> (Original)
[08:13] <teprrr> though the port was made on 2005 and haven't updated.. should I still put 2006 there?
[08:14] <allee> teprrr: no. Only 2005  And make sure that this copyright listed in upstream tarball.  Contributor are free to contribute without copyright
[08:15] <allee> teprrr: add only (and all) copyright you find in the tarball.  If someone obviously forgot to add it remind them ;)
[08:17] <teprrr> hmm, see no copyrights other than in sources..
[08:17] <teprrr> but the kde-look uploader isn't shown there..
[08:17] <theine> Hi, does klaptop_acpi_helper actually make use of the scripts in /etc/acpi ?
[08:17] <teprrr> just two other guys I haven't mentioned
[08:18] <allee> teprrr: add the two.  If kde-look uploader is a contributor remind him to add copyright (if we want's)
[08:24] <teprrr> hmm, can I encode the file to utf8?
[08:24] <teprrr> debian/copyright I mean?
[08:26] <Riddell> yes
[08:27] <allee> teprrr: afaik it's expected to be utf-8
[08:30] <allee> teprrr: lintian complains Alphacube.kcsrc is executable
[08:32] <teprrr> allee, mmh. it was in orig, but I changed that :P
[08:32] <teprrr> but umh, I should do something about it in debian/rules, correct?
[08:34] <allee> repair it
[08:34] <allee> teprrr: echo readme >> debian/docs
[08:35] <teprrr> ah.
[08:36] <allee> and ask upstream add 0.3 changes also to readme. (and kindly suggest to use README for next release ;)
[08:37] <teprrr> so, how should I repair the permissions?
[08:38] <teprrr> commented on kdelook about those issues now
[08:39] <Riddell> mornfall: new adept looks good, I'm ok to upload?
[08:41] <allee> teprrr: hmm, hack.  install rule add a chmod 644 Alphacube.kcsrc
[08:42] <Tonio__> allee: http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1610 ajmitch uploaded kmplayer, excellent ;)
[08:42] <\sh> allee: should be better to fix upstreams makefile :)_
[08:42] <jpatrick> Tonio__: what?
[08:43] <Tonio__> jpatrick: sorry for the name confusion ;)
[08:43] <Tonio__> jpatrick uploaded it...
[08:43] <jpatrick> wow, that was fast
[08:44] <jpatrick> thought someone stole my package for a second
[08:45] <allee> \sh: I prefer little hack in rules and pester upstream
[08:45] <mornfall> Riddell: you are asking if you can upload? or saying you are ok to upload? :) either way, feel free to go ahead :)
[08:45] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I'm a bit dyslectic with names, assume that there 4 letters in common, and I can make the confusion
[08:45] <\sh> allee: new package? then it should be time to let upstream fix it before :)
[08:45] <Tonio_> jpatrick: I've always done that ;)
[08:45] <Riddell> mornfall: just confirming that's what you intended, uploading :)
[08:46] <jpatrick> Tonio_: not in dapper-changes
[08:46] <allee> \sh good point.
[08:47] <jpatrick> Tonio_: oh, now I understand
[08:48] <Tonio_> jpatrick, ajmitch -> there are j, a, t, i and c.... to much for me when I'm tired ^_^
[08:49] <allee> teperr:  relibtoolization can't hurt either.  it depends on ~ 2 dozend pkgs (as usual with upstream libtool)
[08:52] <allee> teprrr: FSF address is outdated in source.
[08:53] <allee> --> upstream todo
[08:53] <teprrr> allee, oh. in copyright file?
[08:53] <teprrr> allee, it came from some template I think
[08:54] <allee> teprrr: in kwin/*.cpp,h
[08:54] <Riddell> FSF really should just get a PO Box
[08:55] <teprrr> allee, oh yes. those file are from kde.. think it's been taken care of by kde devels
[08:56] <allee> teprrr: kde svn clean up the svn repo since weeks to use the new address.  Is the pkg in kde svn?
[08:57] <teprrr> allee, no it isn't.. and this deco is generated with some generator, which uses old stuff I think :(
[08:59] <teprrr> now everything else but that address thing is fixed
[09:01] <allee> teprrr: just make upstream aware of it.  So it gets fixed.  
[09:03] <allee> teprrr: no more comments from my side on the pkg
[09:05] <allee> teprrr: ah, one suggestion: I usually add a debian/TODO file, where I note stuff like the chmod hack, outdated fsf address, so I don't forget about them
[09:06] <teprrr> ah, great idea.. added :)
[09:10] <allee> jpatrick: you should merge upstream's debian/changelog.
[09:10] <teprrr> should I then proceed with bumping the package version and resend to revu?
[09:10] <Riddell> http://kubuntuforums.net/  yikes, what have they do to the logo
[09:10] <jpatrick> Riddell: it's not my fault
[09:11] <allee> teprrr: not sure.  ask \sh ;)  I would prefer a ++ so I can easily use interdiff, but I'm don't know REVU convenstions for this
[09:12] <teprrr> allee, okay. thanks.
[09:12] <Riddell> just upload to revu, revu can do a debdiff for you
[09:12] <teprrr> oh, okay. :)
[09:14] <jpatrick> Riddell: so we're going to use Moodin for Dapper's splash?
[09:14] <Riddell> jpatrick: that's the plan, if it ever gets through main inclusion review
[09:14] <jpatrick> cool
[09:15] <allee> jpatrick: build-dep on xlibs-dev. 
[09:15] <jpatrick> Riddell: the author of the cool theme at kde-look is planning to GPL his theme
[09:15] <allee> jpatrick: replace with proper new xlibraries 
[09:16] <Riddell> jpatrick: URL?
[09:17] <allee> jpatrick: check the depends. Koos made it work on sarge and sid with  libinsarge|libinsid contructs.  Needs cleanup IMHO
[09:18] <jpatrick> Riddell: http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29426
[09:18] <jpatrick> allee: oKay
[09:19] <Riddell> jpatrick: yeah, I like that one.  have you e-mailed him?
[09:19] <allee> jpatrick: I'm also not sure if the pkg is optiomal.  the kmplayer meta pkgs is for my taste not needed
[09:19] <Riddell> although canonical might be doing the artwork
[09:19] <teprrr> http://revu.tauware.de/details.py?upid=1611 -- here we go again
[09:19] <jjesse> that splash is cool
[09:20] <teprrr> fullscreen splash would be bercool :)
[09:20] <jpatrick> Riddell: no but: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=81.msg10996#msg10996
[09:21] <jpatrick> :)
[09:21] <Riddell> arg, you made me see that new kubuntuforums logo again!
[09:21] <Riddell> "next week or so" last november
[09:21] <Riddell> hmm
[09:22] <jpatrick> last november?
[09:22] <\sh> how doomed is this...that's ugly like hell...it should be removed, or the maintainer should be sued for using kubuntu as name
[09:22] <Riddell> oh no, read the wrong date
[09:23] <\sh> but http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29426 this is really nice..
[09:23] <jpatrick> \sh, Riddell : and matching KDM: http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=29331
[09:23] <\sh> or we should make a blue "hal 9000" cam eye :) and greeting the "going to login" user with: "Hello Dave (aka <real username>"
[09:24] <\sh> jpatrick: yeah...that's the one we need...very professional
[09:26] <Riddell> we just need to keep poking him to make it GPL or the like
[09:28] <Tonio_> \sh: wow, that's really much better than the actual !
[09:29] <allee> jpatrick: kmplayer docs should not depend on the application, All long and short descriptions need a bit of work, rules files need clean up (why not cdbs?), *.docs and *.dirs are not needed, files listed there are installed by default and the dirs created by make instal 
[09:29] <jpatrick> allee: I don't like cdbs
[09:30] <\sh> Riddell: do you want to write an email to him? or should I try?
[09:30] <jpatrick> \sh: I was just gonna do that
[09:30] <allee> jpatrick: fine, your choice of course, so just a rules cleanup ;)
[09:30] <\sh> jpatrick: ok :) 
[09:30] <Riddell> well lets not bombard him with e-mails :)
[09:32] <\sh> jpatrick: please mention riddell and me, too, and others as big fans of his design, and that he will be the famous person of Kubuntu Dapper Drake...we will honor him with zillions of free kubuntu cds, directly shipped from canonical ;) signed by mark and the whole crew including launchpad guys, and a voice message from RMS and Linus Torvalds..
[09:32] <jpatrick> rofl
[09:32] <\sh> hehe
[09:32] <jpatrick> I'll quote the chat here too
[09:32] <\sh> lol
[09:33] <\sh> don't he will have those cds then...and I'm just fooling around :)
[09:33] <jpatrick> not the last bit tho
[09:34] <\sh> I'm just excited, because today I was in an office again after more then one month..seeing people, working with people, having nice girls around me...one actually is from ZA....
[09:34] <jpatrick> \sh: having girls around you? Lucky - the one I like is ignoring me most of the time
[09:36] <\sh> jpatrick: yes, around me...but, to be honest, I would say no, if she would ask me to have a date or something else...I'm too old for those young ones :) 23 is too young for an old fart like me
[09:41] <jpatrick> will his name be mentioned somewhere?
[09:41] <\sh> jpatrick: release notes?
[09:41] <\sh> riddell?
[09:42] <jpatrick> apart from debian/copyright for kubuntu-default-settings
[09:43] <jpatrick> 22 mins to CC meeting!
[09:44] <\sh> jpatrick: riddell and I will write a blog entry as well about him, when he is changing the license...so he is famous on planet.ubuntu.com and on planetkde.org, too :)
[09:44] <jpatrick> and I have a send button to push here...
[09:45] <jpatrick> \sh: okay... sure?
[09:46] <jpatrick> I don't want him bashing me later on :)
[09:47] <\sh> I can't speak about riddel, but I will write a blog entry about him and his license change and that we are proud to present etc. and I think a mentioning in the release notes should be possible, but riddel must decide this
[09:47] <jpatrick> I'll just say "You might be mentioned in the release notes"
[09:48] <\sh> jpatrick: very good :)
[09:49] <jpatrick> ok, signed message sent
[09:49] <jpatrick> now to play the waiting game
[10:05] <freeflying_> jpatrick: ping
[10:05] <jpatrick> freeflying_: hello
[10:06] <jpatrick> freeflying_: do you have to names at Last.fm?
[10:06] <freeflying_> jpatrick: I have join the group on last.fm
[10:07] <jpatrick> there's freeflying and a zhengpeng there :)
[10:07] <freeflying_> jpatrick: all for me , :)
[10:07] <jpatrick> :)
[10:47] <jpatrick> Riddell: not sure if I'm gonna be around for much longer...
[10:48] <Riddell> jpatrick: there's nothing on the agenda after wiki licencing so it'll be membership after this
[10:48] <jpatrick> yahoo
[10:48] <Riddell> jpatrick: ask to go first then
[10:48] <jpatrick> ok
[10:48] <jpatrick> I have like 10 mins left
[11:07] <Riddell> jpatrick?
[11:16] <Riddell> bah
[11:17] <freeflying_> Riddell: hi
[11:18] <Riddell> hi freeflying_, you need to prepare a couple of sentenses to introduce yourself at the meeting when they call you
[11:19] <freeflying_> Riddell: ok , and it need vote ?
[11:19] <Riddell> freeflying_: yes, they'll vote and hopefully say yes
[11:20] <freeflying_> Riddell: I don't know who will vote for me . :)
[11:21] <Riddell> freeflying_: mako, kamion and elmo have the votes
[11:21] <Riddell> but they take advise from everyone else
[11:21] <Riddell> so if I say you should be in that'll help them lots
[11:22] <freeflying_> Riddell: :)
[11:52] <Riddell> well I guess Tonio_ is in then :)
[11:54] <Tonio_> Riddell: thanks for your comment :)
[11:54] <freeflying_> Tonio_: congratulate 
[11:54] <\sh> Tonio_: welcome on board dude...well done :)
[11:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: you have next weeks tech board meeting in your diary?
[11:54] <Tonio_> \sh, freeflying_ : ^^
[11:55] <Tonio_> Riddell: I should and may have time to be there yes
[11:55] <\sh> Riddell: TB..yeah he needs it :)
[12:01] <opensource> Riddell: Check out the logo kubuntuforums.net now.  Is that better?