[12:03] <BrickMaker> kubuntu based on debian like ubuntu?
[12:04] <bimberi> yes
[12:04] <a-priori> ubuntu and kubuntu are the same operating system
[12:04] <Zappa> kubuntu is the same distro
[12:04] <Zappa> effectively
[12:04] <cplusplus> the only difference is another desktop manager right?
[12:04] <bimberi> yep, same package repositories, just different package choices
[12:05] <bimberi> cplusplus: yes, although it's a big difference :)
[12:06] <BrickMaker> just difference of desktops?
[12:06] <BrickMaker> kde and gnome?
[12:06] <a-priori> that's the ticket
[12:07] <bimberi> yes, and associated applications
[12:07] <cplusplus> bimberi hm;)
[12:07] <cplusplus> not as big as like gentoo and kubuntu;)
[12:07] <ubuntu> Rawr
[12:09] <cplusplus> is kdevelope available for kubuntu?
[12:09] <bimberi> cplusplus: no, definitely not as big :)
[12:09] <cplusplus> is kdevelope available for kubuntu?
[12:09] <bimberi> cplusplus: yes - from the repositories (not installed by default)
[12:09] <bimberi> !info kdevelop3
[12:09] <ubotu> kdevelop3: (An IDE for Unix/X11 - development version), section universe/kde, is optional. Version: 4:3.2.3-0ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1053 kB, Installed size: 3500 kB
[12:09] <cplusplus> 3 = latest?
[12:10] <BrickMaker> only ubuntu provides free shipping cd
[12:10] <BrickMaker> does any other linux do this
[12:10] <bimberi> in (k)ubuntu yes
[12:10] <cplusplus> and mono?
[12:10] <cplusplus> !info mono
[12:10] <ubotu> mono: (Mono CLI (.NET) runtime), section interpreters, is optional. Version: 1.1.8.3-1ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 1 kB, Installed size: 24 kB
[12:10] <bimberi> !info monodevelop
[12:10] <ubotu> monodevelop: (C#/Boo/Java/Nemerle/ILasm Development Environment), section universe/devel, is optional. Version: 0.7-2ubuntu1 (breezy), Packaged size: 1308 kB, Installed size: 4788 kB
[12:10] <cplusplus> when i use monodevelop i need mono package?
[12:11] <wyze> hi , i got a problem at the boot , after choose the os in lilo , lilo start "Loading Linux......" but it goes on and on for 2 minutess.....
[12:11] <bimberi> cplusplus: you can browse the available software via http://packages/ubuntu.com
[12:11] <cplusplus> okk
[12:11] <wyze> after he give me Bios data check succesfully
[12:11] <BrickMaker> any other linux company provides free cds?
[12:12] <bimberi> er, http://packages.ubuntu.com/ (sorry)
[12:12] <wyze> can anybody help me?
[12:12] <wyze> i must change boot loader?
[12:12] <cplusplus> gcc is not a standard?
[12:13] <h1> i have install kubuntu und boot. if i want start pppoeconf, he sad, that i don't have root rights. and if i do su he asks after a password. but i dont no the password, i havend give him anything like this. wats the passwd
[12:13] <h1> ?
[12:13] <Monketh> You could always try GRUB.
[12:13] <bimberi> cplusplus: no, not installed by default - remember it's "linux for human beings" :)
[12:13] <cplusplus> try root h1?
[12:13] <h1> as passwort?
[12:13] <cplusplus> at gentoo its standard;)
[12:14] <h1> ahh ok i want to try
[12:14] <Monketh> as admin, sudo root passwd.  I think.
[12:14] <bimberi> h1: sudo pppoeconf  (and use your own password)
[12:14] <cplusplus> gentoo is not linux for human beings?;)
[12:14] <h1> thx or i install gentoo :-)
[12:14] <bimberi> :)
[12:14] <cplusplus> h1 try gentoo installer ;)
[12:14] <cplusplus> is easier
[12:15] <cplusplus> istalling gentoo is like watching tv 10h
[12:15] <wyze> eheh
[12:15] <cplusplus> compiling so long)
[12:15] <wyze> i was on that channel
[12:15] <wyze> ;)
[12:15] <wyze> waiting....
[12:15] <h1> cplusplus` i have also gentoo installed
[12:15] <wyze> kubuntu is bettter
[12:15] <h1> only the kernel was installed by a frend
[12:15] <cplusplus> do you like it h1?
[12:16] <h1> oh yes it was nice
[12:16] <cplusplus> but it takes a lot of time to instal ist right?
[12:16] <h1> yes
[12:16] <cplusplus> how long do you need?
[12:16] <wyze> a lot of time at startup for me :''(((((((((
[12:16] <cplusplus> did
[12:16] <h1> he had 12 ours loud und build
[12:17] <h1> one night
[12:17] <cplusplus> ;)
[12:17] <cplusplus> not human linux;)
[12:17] <h1> but i want to install on a old notebook whith 800 mhz thats will take more time
[12:18] <h1> ahh bimberi thx
[12:18] <wyze> sorry ,how can i change lilo  with grub?
[12:18] <bleaked> is there a good printer guide one could refer to.  (for setting up a standard home inkjet printer)
[12:19] <wyze> ....
[12:20] <wyze> can someeone help me ..?
[12:21] <owner> yes
[12:21] <wyze> :D
[12:21] <wyze> got this problem with boot loader
[12:21] <wyze> i have lilo
[12:22] <wyze> and take long long time
[12:22] <wyze> "Loading Linux..............................................."
[12:22] <wyze> about 2 minutes....
[12:22] <wyze> a lot od ........................
[12:23] <wyze> i don't know what to do
[12:23] <wyze> everythings works well
[12:23] <wyze> i must change boot loader?
[12:24] <owner> just run grub-install
[12:25] <wyze> ok
[12:26] <wyze> notrhing else for lilo?
[12:26] <wyze> delete?
[12:28] <wyze> how can i know where install grub?
[12:28] <owner> ubuntu cd should install it for you
[12:28] <kkathman> wyze:  grub is on your hoot disk under the /boot partition
[12:28] <wyze> no i give me error
[12:28] <kkathman> sorry the /boot directoy
[12:28] <owner> kkathman he wants to replace lilo with grub
[12:28] <kkathman> ohh
[12:28] <kkathman> hehe
[12:28] <kkathman> well thats a bit of a sticky wicket
[12:28] <wyze> ;)
[12:28] <owner> it sounds like his lilo is messed up
[12:29] <owner> as well
[12:29] <kkathman> you have to rewrite your mbr
[12:29] <wyze> ok
[12:29] <wyze> which devices?
[12:29] <kkathman> actually I was talking to a couple of people today about that
[12:29] <owner> run grub-install i think?
[12:29] <kkathman> there isnt a real real safe way to do this
[12:30] <wyze> Das heisst deine System.map enthielt keine Symbole von Modulen. Hast
[12:30] <wyze> du denn ueberhaupt irgendwas als Modul konfiguriert bei deinem Kernel?
[12:30] <wyze> Und liegen die Module denn in /lib/modules/2.6.8/kernel/...
[12:30] <wyze> ops
[12:30] <kkathman> actually the fellow I spoke to, ended up installing SUSE to get a grub and then just manually edited the new menu.lst
[12:30] <wyze> sorry
[12:31] <wyze> i got erroe
[12:31] <kkathman> ubuntu actually uses GRUB I believe standardly
[12:32] <wyze> kkathman how can i see in which device?^
[12:33] <kkathman> wyze are you on ubuntu/kubuntu?
[12:33] <wyze> kubuntu
[12:33] <kkathman> wyze:  at a console type sudo fdisk -l
[12:33] <kkathman> that will should your devices and partitions
[12:33] <kkathman> show
[12:33] <wyze> hda2
[12:34] <wyze> is the boot whit the *
[12:34] <wyze> correct?
[12:34] <kkathman> I dunno
[12:34] <kkathman> do you have multiple HDDs?
[12:34] <TechSonic> Can anyone help with setting up Sound blaster 24 bit so more then one application can emit sound at once?
[12:34] <wyze> no, many partitions
[12:34] <wyze> hda1 win
[12:35] <wyze> hda2 Linux boot
[12:35] <cplusplus> crazy: kdesu systemsettings           i entered the passwd
[12:35] <owner> techsonic http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=44753&highlight=happy+alsa
[12:35] <wyze> hda7 Linux
[12:35] <cplusplus> systemsettings not found?
[12:35] <wyze> hda8 Linux swap
[12:35] <cplusplus> command systemsettings not found
[12:35] <cplusplus> why?
[12:38] <cplusplus> @hbimberi: kdesu systemsettings           i entered the passwd
[12:39] <TechSonic> owner, I don't believe that to be right, I don't have an Nforce2 or a sound under a prefernces area, my menu doesn't match that of the authors article.
[12:39] <cplusplus> message: command systemsettings not found
[12:39] <cplusplus> why?
[12:39] <owner> that guide is generic techsonic
[12:39] <cplusplus> ?
[12:40] <TechSonic> owner, I'm in for another head bang tonight trying to figure this one out.
[12:40] <kkathman> cplusplus: alt-F2 and type systemsettings there
[12:40] <TechSonic> owner, how can I disable sound server on Kubuntu?
[12:40] <cplusplus> whithout kde-su ?
[12:41] <owner> kde options techsonic
[12:41] <kkathman> TechSonic:  systemsettings, sound and multimedia, and click of the enable box
[12:41] <owner> under sound
[12:41] <TechSonic> owner, thanks I found it.  Ok now it's unchecked, must I reboot for changes?
[12:41] <wyze> kkathman i got boot on hda2....grub-install /dev/hda2 ?
[12:42] <cplusplus> crazy
[12:42] <cplusplus> how can i enable my ntfs partition for network sharing?
[12:42] <cplusplus> i am at sharing in systemsettings
[12:45] <TechSonic> I don't have /etc/asound.conf, Should I create it?
[12:45] <owner> yes
[12:45] <kkathman> cplusplus:  does the system see it ?
[12:45] <TechSonic> thank you :D
[12:45] <bushito> how do i compile a file?? =3
[12:46] <TechSonic> I get permission denied error when saving or making a file there, How can i sudo it without changing actuall permissions via chmod?
[12:46] <cplusplus> re
[12:46] <cplusplus> do i need another package for sharing files?
[12:46] <cplusplus> see what?
[12:47] <cplusplus> under file sharing?
[12:47] <kkathman> bushito:  you'll need to install all the compilation vehicles...start with build-essential
[12:47] <kkathman> cplusplus: is the NTFS on another machine?
[12:47] <cplusplus> yes
[12:47] <cplusplus> ntfs and fat32
[12:48] <cplusplus> and ext3 for kubuntu
[12:48] <kkathman> cplusplus: you have samba installed and running?
[12:48] <cplusplus> no
[12:48] <kkathman> ahh.. check the wiki regarding installing and running samba :)
[12:48] <cplusplus> kkahman does the desktop remote work at kubuntu?
[12:49] <kkathman> cplusplus:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba?highlight=%28Samba%29
[12:49] <cplusplus> kkathman can you connect via desktop sharing?
[12:49] <kkathman> cplusplus:  I dunno about that actually
[12:50] <kkathman> maybe someone has experience with that
[12:50] <kkathman> i do not
[12:50] <eightiesk> hey
[12:50] <eightiesk> !gaimsound
[12:50] <ubotu> My cat's name is Mittens!, eightiesk
[12:50] <eightiesk> !gaim
[12:50] <ubotu> gaim is, like, http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/GaimHowto/
[12:53] <cplusplus2> re
[12:53] <cplusplus2> kkathman?
[12:53] <eightiesk> ne1 know why gasim and flash don't have sound?
[12:53] <bushito> how can i remote acces a friend PC that got ubuntu?
[12:55] <cplusplus2> samba runs
[12:55] <cplusplus2> but which password do i need to connect from windows?
[12:57] <starhawk> I am running kubunta and when the computer gose asleep I cant wake it back up any Ideas
[12:57] <cplusplus2> hm
[12:57] <cplusplus2> ?
[12:57] <Zappa> anyone know of program that will manage your mp3 collection? you know - naming of files, directory structure etc for you
[12:59] <vge> bushito: you can configure "Desktop Sharing" in kcontrol, and after that you can use realvnc to connect to to that ubuntu machine
[12:59] <cplusplus2> hm?
[12:59] <vge> or shoud i say kubuntu machine
[01:00] <vge> or debends what kind off access was preferred :D
[01:03] <cplusplus2> i want to share files from kubutu to windows
[01:03] <cplusplus2> i enabled samba...than i activated adcanced sharing....
[01:03] <cplusplus2> and add shared folers...but when i connect to from windows to kubutu it doesnt work because
[01:03] <cplusplus2> because i need a passwd!?!?!! why?
[01:03] <bushito> vge: y pues el tal real n ose que esta en los repositirios de ubuntu??
[01:03] <bushito> xP
[01:04] <vge> no hablo
[01:04] <mshade> !samba
[01:04] <ubotu> I heard samba is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/SettingUpSamba or https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MountWindowsSharesPermanently
[01:04] <bushito> como que no hablas?
[01:04] <bushito> (o_O)
[01:04] <vge> that was all i know sry, english please
[01:05] <bushito> aahh sorry
[01:05] <bushito> got lang confused
[01:05] <bushito> xD
[01:05] <bushito> i meant if the realvnc is on ubuntu repositories?
[01:06] <vge> you wanna connect from you ubuntu or to your ubuntu?
[01:06] <bushito> ...
[01:06] <bushito> i got kubuntu
[01:06] <bushito> andfriend got ubuntu
[01:07] <vge> but ansver to your question, dont think so
[01:07] <bushito> ???
[01:07] <bushito> (o_O)
[01:14] <vge> bushito: im sorry, atleast there are viewer named "svncviewer"
[01:15] <bushito> oh wlel
[01:20] <vge> bushito: better yet, use "xvncviewer", worked straight from the box
[01:23] <cplusplus2> hm
[01:23] <cplusplus2> someone can me help with samba?
[01:27] <dcode> what'cha got cplusplus2?
[01:27] <cplusplus2> h?
[01:27] <dcode> you said you needed help w/ samba
[01:28] <cyberclube> hi people
[01:28] <cyberclube> anyone else getting firefox crashes with dapper?
[01:28] <cplusplus2> yes
[01:28] <cplusplus2> dcode can you help me via remote desktop?
[01:29] <cplusplus2> i have no idea which flag i have to change in smba.conf..
[01:29] <cyberclube> I'm having this problem some days ago now. Firefox crashes with "bus error" when I'm opening a new window, or a "save as" dialog...
[01:29] <dcode> no can do, mon frere.....I'm on satellite and the latency is murder
[01:29] <dcode> cplusplus2: put it on pastebin
[01:29] <cplusplus2> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0TBXim57.html
[01:30] <cyberclube> cplusplus2: was that "yes" for me?
[01:30] <dcode> no.....I meant your smb.conf
[01:30] <cplusplus2> yes
[01:30] <dcode> I can't do VNC over this link
[01:30] <cplusplus2> @dcode
[01:30] <dcode> it would take days
[01:30] <cplusplus2> try it please
[01:31] <dcode> I don't even have a vnc viewer on this box...post your smb.conf...and I'll tell you what to change
[01:31] <cyberclube> Ok... so maybe you also have problems getting new packages with Adept/Adept updater?
[01:34] <cplusplus2> ok dcode
[01:35] <cplusplus2> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/YsBqAq83.html
[01:35] <dcode> okay...so what are you trying to do?
[01:35] <cplusplus2> i hava kubuntu and a windows pc
[01:36] <cplusplus2> i want to copy files from kubuntu to windows
[01:36] <dcode> you have a share on win box?  or you want to make a share on kubuntu?
[01:36] <cplusplus2> i have a ntfs and a fat32
[01:36] <cplusplus2> at kubuntu
[01:36] <cplusplus2> and ext3 for kubuntu...
[01:37] <cplusplus2> i have a share on kubuntu
[01:37] <dcode> okay...you can do this 2 ways:
[01:37] <cplusplus2> and want ;)
[01:37] <dcode> 1. Create a share on Kubuntu with user/pass auth or share level security
[01:38] <dcode> 2. Create a share on Win box
[01:38] <dcode> what version of Windows?
[01:38] <TechSonic> Can anyone tell me how to set armyops (America's Army) to only have playback?  I'm not sure I understand this faq either http://www.goteamspeak.com/index.php?page=faq&id=3&item=43#q43
[01:38] <cplusplus2> windows xp
[01:38] <dcode> Pro or Home?
[01:38] <cplusplus2> home
[01:38] <cplusplus2> i want to create it on kubuntu
[01:38] <dcode> okay....Home only supports simple file sharing
[01:39] <dcode> so in your smb.conf change "security = user" to "security = share"
[01:39] <dcode> and uncomment it (remove the ';')
[01:39] <cplusplus2> mom i can take a screenshoot
[01:40] <dcode> was?
[01:40] <cplusplus2> deutsch?
[01:40] <dcode> nur ein bischen
[01:40] <ilba7r> !de
[01:40] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[01:40] <cplusplus2> ich mache einen screenshoot
[01:40] <dcode> okay...
[01:41] <cplusplus2> where can i upload it?
[01:41] <ilba7r> anyone have problems with running gdmflexiserver using the gflrx drivers on a 9600 ATI card?
[01:41] <dcode> sec
[01:42] <cplusplus2> ok
[01:42] <cplusplus2> mom
[01:43] <dcode> cplusplus2: ftp://ftp.nethedz.org/incoming/
[01:43] <cplusplus2> http://img206.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto16qn.png
[01:43] <cplusplus2> take a look!
[01:46] <cplusplus2> i hope you understand german;)
[01:47] <dcode> heh
[01:47] <dcode> I got it
[01:47] <cplusplus2> ok
[01:49] <dcode> fick!
[01:49] <_kaeru> I installed KDE 3.5 and now arts is constantly crashing. Can anybody help?
[01:49] <bushito> downgrade?
[01:49] <dcode> *sigh*  my KDE isn't cooperating...I've never used the Sharing applet before so I gotta try it out
[01:50] <dcode> I've only directly edited smb.conf
[01:50] <_kaeru> That doesn't sound fun
[01:50] <cplusplus2> second screen: http://img210.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bildschirmphoto23dx.png
[01:50] <cplusplus2> can you post it?
[01:51] <_kaeru> Is it possible to completely remove a package while not removing those that depend on it?
[01:52] <cplusplus2> dcode attention my mtn/Daten only can be read
[01:52] <cplusplus2> because its ntfs!
[01:52] <hawking> when I change a text file another text file is created with the same name but ends with ~ how can i stop it?
[01:52] <dcode> ah
[01:53] <dcode> cplusplus2: is your Kubuntu box dual boot and you have a seperate winXP home machine?
[01:53] <cplusplus2> no
[01:53] <cplusplus2> i have 1 pc and 1 notebook
[01:53] <cplusplus2> pc = kubuntu, notebook = win
[01:53] <bushito> _kaeru_ yes it is posible
[01:53] <dcode> so what is /mnt/Daten ?
[01:53] <cplusplus2> = ntfs partition
[01:53] <cplusplus2> at kubuntu
[01:54] <bushito> _kaeru: but to much work tho, why dont you try updating the kubuntu
[01:54] <dcode> is /mnt/Daten where you want want to put your share from your laptop?
[01:54] <cplusplus2> /mnt/Download = fat32 partition at kubuntu
[01:54] <bushito> _kaeru: read topic =)
[01:54] <cplusplus2> yes
[01:54] <cplusplus2> /mnt/Daten is at kubuntu pc
[01:55] <cplusplus2> i also want access /tmp
[01:55] <cplusplus2> and /mnt/Download
[01:56] <dcode> how many partitions are on your windows box?  2?  one NTFS and one Fat32?
[01:56] <cplusplus2> ntfs
[01:56] <dcode> just ntfs
[01:56] <cplusplus2> but doent matter?
[01:56] <cplusplus2> yes
[01:56] <hawking> any kmyfirewall users can help me with configuration here?
[01:56] <dcode> no it doesn't matter
[01:57] <hawking> should i load iptables as module or not?
[01:57] <cplusplus2> at windows pc i only have 1 parition!
[01:57] <cplusplus2> = ntfs
[01:57] <dcode> okay
[01:58] <dcode> you have an NTFS partition on your kubuntu box too?
[01:58] <cplusplus2> yes
[01:58] <cplusplus2> kubuntu = /mnt/Daten -> ntfs     /mnt/Download -> fat32
[01:58] <_kaeru> bushito: What part exactly?
[01:58] <dcode> any particular reason if it isn't dual boot?
[01:58] <cplusplus2> and ext3 for kubuntu
[01:58] <cplusplus2> dual boot?
[01:58] <cplusplus2> i dont have it!
[01:59] <dcode> okay...I understand your filesystem now...but why not make all partitions ext3 so you have RW access?
[01:59] <cplusplus2> i just had windows at my kubuntu pc
[01:59] <cplusplus2> and i didnt delete all files
[01:59] <dcode> gotcha
[01:59] <cplusplus2> when i install kunbutu ok?
[01:59] <dcode> okay
[01:59] <cplusplus2> ;)
[01:59] <bushito> _kaeru: the one that talks about the kde 3.5 and it fixes =)
[02:00] <dcode> sorry...this  would be easier for if this damn Sharing applet would work for me...
[02:00] <dcode> can you not see your Kubuntu box from your laptop?
[02:00] <keherman> Anyone know how to turn of the PC System Speaker beeping?
[02:00] <keherman> using the command line?
[02:00] <dcode> unplug it?
[02:00] <dcode> :-p
[02:01] <keherman> hehe, i mean the little speaker inside
[02:01] <bushito> _kaeru: or if it doesnt work you can try adept, and downgrade to kde 3.4 without problems =) or crashing your system =)
[02:01] <dcode> right...
[02:01] <keherman> ;-0
[02:01] <_kaeru> bushito: That just gives the repository of KDE 3,5 for Kubuntu
[02:01] <dcode> cplusplus2: when you open "My Network Places" in windows, do you see your Kubuntu box?
[02:02] <bushito> it says, breezy updates fixed the kde 3.5 probs =)
[02:02] <cplusplus2> no but when i enter \\Worksation  i have to enter a password..
[02:02] <cplusplus2> workstation = kubuntu pc
[02:02] <_kaeru> bushito: I already have breezy updates in sources.list
[02:02] <bushito> but did you did the apt-get upgrade? before going to kde 3.5?
[02:03] <dcode> okay....have you tried just pressing [Enter]  ?
[02:03] <dcode> that failed?
[02:03] <_kaeru> bushito: Yes
[02:03] <cplusplus2> yes
[02:03] <cplusplus2> but it need a passwd
[02:03] <cplusplus2> because ok is disabled
[02:03] <bushito> _kaeru: then we gotta a prob xD here... try adpt to downgrade to kde 3.4.3 again =P
[02:04] <dcode> ah....sheisse....I know what the problem is
[02:04] <bushito> _kaeru: i am using kde 3.5 i did what they said and i got no probs n.n
[02:04] <dcode> WindowsXP by default won't accept a blank password on a fileshare
[02:04] <dcode> sec
[02:04] <_kaeru> bushito: How exactly? Just remove the kde3.5 source and do an update and upgrade?
[02:04] <cplusplus2> dcode oh
[02:05] <dbglt> hi all
[02:05] <dbglt> quick question! Kernel headers!
[02:05] <dbglt> under what package name? :)
[02:05] <bushito> _kaeru: no... it just undo the update to last package before kde 3.5
[02:05] <dcode> cplusplus2: Try this...if it doesn't work...we gotta "fix" your windows box....I only know how to do it with smb.conf...so bear with me
[02:05] <dbglt> I can't seem to find them
[02:06] <dcode> under [DATEN] , add the following lines
[02:06] <bushito> dbglt: try it with adept
[02:06] <dcode> browsable = yes
[02:06] <dcode> guest only
[02:06] <bushito> dbglt: if you trying to update headers
[02:06] <dbglt> bushito: adept looks evil!!
[02:06] <dcode> that's all
[02:06] <dbglt> I just want headers
[02:06] <cplusplus2> dcode: show me the smb.conf
[02:06] <nalioth> dbglt: search synaptic for "kernel"
[02:06] <cplusplus2> i can change it?
[02:06] <bushito> dbglt: then under virtuals packages
[02:06] <dbglt> oh my adept got even uglier
[02:07] <dbglt> since I rebooted
[02:07] <bushito> dbglt: lol xP
[02:07] <bushito> dbglt: aptitude search kernel
[02:07] <bushito> =P
[02:07] <dbglt> sudo module-assistant build,install fglrx-kernel
[02:07] <dbglt> eek!
[02:08] <dcode> cplusplus2: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/519983
[02:08] <dbglt> Linux Kernel Headers for development
[02:08] <dbglt> This package provides headers from the Linux kernel. These headers are used by the installed headers for GNU glibc and other system libraries.
[02:08] <dbglt> I already have them installed
[02:08] <dbglt> but it says I don't have headers :\
[02:08] <bushito> thats a common prob... 2 bad i dont know how to fix it =D
[02:08] <dbglt> bushito: heh
[02:08] <bushito> dbglt: lol sorry xD
[02:09] <dcode> my [Public Share]  is a public read/write share that everyone will access as a guest account
[02:09] <dbglt> wait
[02:09] <dbglt> do I get the 386 or 686 headers?
[02:10] <bushito> (o_o) depends
[02:10] <dbglt> on? :p
[02:10] <bushito> on your pc x
[02:10] <bushito> xP
[02:10] <dbglt> uname tells me I have the 386 kernel
[02:10] <dbglt> I have a p4
[02:10] <bushito> i got p4 with 1.5 GHZ and 512 ramm
[02:10] <dbglt> going with the 386 headers
[02:10] <bushito> i am a 386
[02:10] <dbglt> they better work :p
[02:10] <bushito> =P
[02:11] <dbglt> woot
[02:11] <dbglt> they were on the install CD
[02:11] <dbglt> booya
[02:11] <dbglt> saved me a 20mb download hehe
[02:11] <gamma> heh
[02:11] <dbglt> After unpacking 606kB disk space will be freed.
[02:11] <dbglt> oook
[02:11] <gamma> question: how would i go about upgrading to kde-3.5?
[02:12] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[02:12] <ubotu> kde3.5 is, like, totally, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:12] <gamma> is it in universe?
[02:12] <bushito> -.-
[02:12] <bushito> lol
[02:12] <bushito> gamma http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[02:12] <dbglt> gamma: follow the link :) I did it and it works
[02:12] <bimberi> gamma: no - a separate repository (on that link)
[02:12] <gamma> thanks
[02:13] <gamma> i'm thinking of switching to kubuntu from gentoo after using gentoo for 4 years
[02:13] <gamma> i'm sick of compiling
[02:13] <gamma> and broken packages
[02:14] <dbglt> gamma: heh I made a similar switch
[02:14] <dbglt> from gentoo too, used it for a couple of odd years
[02:14] <gamma> only thing is i'm going to have to back up my home directory since it's on my reiser4 root node partition
[02:14] <dbglt> nice having the packages, but I don't like being out of date :p
[02:14] <gamma> dbglt: you happy with the switch?
[02:14] <dbglt> gamma: two days into it heh
[02:14] <gamma> haha well so far so good? :P
[02:14] <dbglt> gamma: but pretty much, things are helluva easier to set up. I updated kde near instantly (after it was downloaded)
[02:14] <dbglt> apt is nice
[02:15] <gamma> so i've heard
[02:15] <gamma> any slowness compared to gentoo?
[02:15] <dbglt> not really
[02:15] <gamma> since source based is supposed to be "so much faster"
[02:15] <dbglt> not noticeable on day to day use, anyway
[02:15] <dbglt> I didn't do source for fastness, used it for configurability and bleeding-edgeness
[02:15] <dbglt> anyway
[02:15] <gamma> yea same here
[02:15] <dbglt> need to kill my X-server to test ATI driver. I'll be right back
[02:16] <gamma> waiiit
[02:16] <gamma> 1 more ?
[02:16] <dbglt> waiiiiiiiiiting
[02:16] <dbglt> ok
[02:16] <bushito> dbglt: hey
[02:16] <gamma> so kubuntu isn't bleeding edge?
[02:16] <bushito> dbglt: i wanna talk to you when ya come back
[02:16] <dbglt> bushito: okies
[02:16] <dbglt> gamma: it is up to date with releases. I'm talking about CVS-I-hope-this-works bleeding edge
[02:16] <dbglt> :p
[02:16] <gamma> oh cvs.. i stopped doing cvs way back when
[02:16] <gamma> ok well im going to make the switch
[02:17] <gamma> see you later tonight maybe :P
[02:17] <dbglt> hope so
[02:17] <dbglt> gamma: good luck
[02:17] <dbglt> back soon!
[02:17] <gamma> gotta download/burn the install cd and back stuff up
[02:17] <bushito> gamma, hey
[02:17] <cplusplus2> dcode your conf?
[02:19] <dcode> I posted it
[02:19] <dcode> cplusplus2: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/519983
[02:19] <cplusplus2> your conf file?
[02:19] <cplusplus2> i now have a gast account when i try to access...but whats the passwd?
[02:20] <dcode> is it asking for username and password?
[02:21] <cplusplus2> no \192.168.1.101\gast
[02:21] <cplusplus2> and i need a passwd
[02:21] <hawking> noone uses kmyfirewall here? I want to know how I can make it log to a file instead of printing to tty1?
[02:21] <cplusplus2> gast it comming automatically
[02:21] <dbglt> ok
[02:21] <cplusplus2> sry  \192.168.1.101\Gast
[02:21] <dbglt> that didn't work too well :\
[02:21] <dbglt> Screen not Found!
[02:21] <dbglt> damnit
[02:22] <dcode> 101 is your Kubuntu box?
[02:22] <dcode> 1.101
[02:22] <cplusplus2> yes
[02:22] <dcode> you can't leave the password blank?
[02:23] <cplusplus2> yes
[02:23] <dcode> Is 'OK' disabled until you put in a password?
[02:23] <cplusplus2> ok is enabled
[02:23] <_dbglt> bushito: what's up?
[02:23] <dcode> blank password oughta do ya
[02:24] <bushito> dbglt: yeah it is about the ati card
[02:24] <cplusplus2> dont work
[02:24] <cplusplus2> blank passwd dont work
[02:24] <dcode> :-\
[02:24] <bushito> dbglt: i am really interested in installing mine with the full work capacity
[02:24] <cplusplus2> tdbsam?
[02:24] <dcode> try putting your Kubuntu user account
[02:24] <cplusplus2> whats that?
[02:24] <bushito> dbglt: for what you installed yours?? playing games?
[02:24] <cplusplus2> cant
[02:25] <cplusplus2> is always a guest
[02:25] <dcode> tdbsam is a database file that Samba uses to store password information
[02:25] <cplusplus2> automatically
[02:25] <dcode> oh....
[02:25] <dcode> did you put the "guest only" line in your config?
[02:25] <dbglt> bushito: increased performance mainly, might play the ocassional game
[02:25] <cplusplus2> yes
[02:25] <cplusplus2> copied all from your paste
[02:25] <cplusplus2> it was in it
[02:25] <cplusplus2> at last line
[02:25] <bushito> dbglt: and how did you do it?, could you teach me or give me the sources to find out?
[02:26] <dcode> did you copy the whole config?  or just the share part?
[02:26] <cplusplus2> only -> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/519983
[02:26] <cplusplus2> all of the paste!
[02:27] <dcode> okay...I know the problem now (I think)
[02:27] <cplusplus2> hm
[02:27] <cplusplus2> i dont know it..hm
[02:27] <dcode> change the line that says "guest account = macuser" to "guest account = nobody"
[02:27] <dcode> macuser is special for my setup b/c I have a bunch of OS X machines on my net
[02:28] <cplusplus2> guest only is ok at last line
[02:28] <cplusplus2> ?
[02:28] <dcode> yes
[02:28] <cplusplus2> ah it works
[02:28] <cplusplus2> i can see public
[02:28] <cplusplus2> but cant acess it
[02:28] <dcode> that's because you don't have a dir called "/public" on your Kubuntu box
[02:29] <cplusplus2> works;)
[02:29] <dcode> change the line "path = /public" to "path = /mnt/Daten"
[02:29] <cplusplus2> i can access Daten ;-)
[02:29] <dcode> :-D
[02:29] <cplusplus2> pefect
[02:29] <cplusplus2> thank you soo much;)
[02:29] <cplusplus2> is great
[02:29] <dcode> now just duplicate the section under [Public Share]  for your other shares that you want
[02:29] <cplusplus2> ;)
[02:29] <cplusplus2> was it a problem of windows?
[02:30] <dcode> yeah....
[02:30] <dcode> see windows wants to login with a password
[02:30] <cplusplus2> can i add a second share?
[02:30] <dcode> by default samba uses user-level access...which requires a password
[02:30] <dcode> yeah...just copy from [Public Share]  on down and repeat it for every share you want
[02:31] <cplusplus2> path = /mnt/Daten
[02:31] <dcode> change [Public Share]  to something else; this is what shows up as the share name
[02:31] <cplusplus2> path = /mtn/Download
[02:31] <cplusplus2> ?
[02:31] <dcode> and of course change the path
[02:31] <dcode> yeah
[02:31] <dcode> but you have to give the share a diff name
[02:31] <dcode> [Download] 
[02:31] <dcode> path = /mnt/Download
[02:32] <cplusplus2> works;)
[02:32] <cplusplus2> perfect
[02:32] <dcode> usw.
[02:32] <cplusplus2> why do you understand german?
[02:32] <dcode> and you can change [Public Share]  to something a little more Deutsch
[02:32] <cplusplus2> where do you come form?
[02:32] <dcode> lol....well I'm a crazy American
[02:32] <cplusplus2> new york?
[02:32] <dcode> I lived in Germany for 16 months and I now have a german girlfriend
[02:32] <bushito> dcode: ich liebe dich =P
[02:32] <dcode> I live in Missouri
[02:33] <dcode> bushito: ich dich auch
[02:33] <bushito> dcode xD
[02:33] <dcode> cplusplus2: my girlfriend is moving tomorrow to Baden Wurtenburg
[02:33] <cplusplus2> dcode lived?
[02:34] <dcode> she lives in Niedersachsen now
[02:34] <cplusplus2> and you?
[02:34] <dcode> I live near St. Louis, MO, USA
[02:34] <cplusplus2> do you come back to baden wurtenberg?
[02:35] <dcode> Ich komme im Sommer nach Baden Wurtenberg.
[02:35] <dcode> fuer 3 oder 4 wochen
[02:35] <cplusplus2> dcode ich liebe dich auch danke fr deine hilfe us boy;)
[02:35] <dcode> err...
[02:35] <dcode> woeche?
[02:35] <dcode> woche?
[02:35] <dcode> wochen?
[02:35] <dcode> ich wiess nicht
[02:36] <cplusplus2> warum nicht fr immer?
[02:36] <cplusplus2> germany is nice;)
[02:36] <dcode> bitte schoen....Es war kien problem
[02:36] <bushito> ehh english here =D
[02:36] <dcode> Ja, ich liebe Deutschland.
[02:36] <cplusplus2> why do you dont come the german forever?
[02:36] <dcode> I'm in the US military and I'm also a student
[02:36] <cplusplus2> do you work in us or?
[02:36] <cplusplus2> oh
[02:37] <cplusplus2> military student?
[02:37] <dcode> so....when I'm done with both of those...I will probably live in Germany for at least a few years
[02:37] <dcode> I'm a part time soldier, and a full time student
[02:37] <cplusplus2> waht do you study?
[02:37] <dcode> Informatik
[02:37] <cplusplus2> nice
[02:37] <dcode> I'm a programmer
[02:37] <cplusplus2> you can program the wapons;)
[02:38] <dcode> I prefer to program administrative data
[02:38] <dcode> which is what I'm doing right now until I go back to school in August
[02:38] <cplusplus2> whats a netbios name?
[02:38] <bushito> sorry to interrumpt your conversationc guys
[02:38] <dcode> about the german?
[02:39] <dcode> I was just using german as a courtesy to our ausland freund
[02:39] <cplusplus2> netbios name...when do you need it?
[02:39] <bushito> anyone here knows a good program to show your pc performance on your desktop?
[02:39] <cplusplus2> hehe germand and english sounds nice
[02:39] <dcode> I use \\garcon\Public Share\ to get to my share
[02:39] <dcode> bushito: gkrellm?
[02:39] <cplusplus2> garcon = name of pc?
[02:39] <dcode> it's kinda old skool....but it works
[02:39] <dcode> garcon = name of box, yes
[02:40] <dcode> it's kinda a joke
[02:40] <dcode> cause a garcon is a french waiter...
[02:40] <dcode> and waiters serve
[02:40] <dcode> so it's my little french slave :-D
[02:40] <dcode> brb
[02:41] <cplusplus2> i cant access to: \\garcon\Daten
[02:41] <cplusplus2> why?
[02:41] <cplusplus2> hm
[02:41] <cplusplus2> windows to bad?
[02:41] <cplusplus2> its \\Workstation here!
[02:41] <cplusplus2> garcon its another thing
[02:44] <dcode> eh?
[02:45] <dm> Anyone help me with my ATI drivers problem with the new 8.21.7 ???? everytime i boot when it starts X my screen "melts colors"
[02:45] <dcode> oh....it's because under Debian/Ubuntu I think the netbios name is setup elsewhere
[02:45] <dcode> I gotta go....my neighbor can't access my network from his house...gotta troubleshoot it....
[02:45] <dcode> later
[02:46] <ilba7r> dm i have problems with the old 8.20 drivers my self they are dam drivers
[02:46] <cplusplus2> ok dcode
[02:46] <cplusplus2> are you there tomorrow?
[02:46] <dm> ilba7r i cant even remove it after i installed it
[02:47] <ilba7r> dm just tell your xorg.conf not to use it. edit the file /etc/X11/xorg.conf and remove fglrx from it. replace it with ati
[02:48] <ilba7r> or better if you had a backup reinstall the backup
[02:55] <ubuntu> witajcie
[02:55] <capotej> hey
[02:56] <Traum> how come my root password is not accepted via GUI, but it works when login via terminal?
[02:59] <capotej> any guide on getting mp3 support on kubuntu
[03:01] <nalioth> !mp3
[03:01] <ubotu> rumour has it, mp3 is a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[03:06] <capotej> yea i got it :)
[03:07] <feistel> hi
[03:07] <feistel> anyone know the Kubuntu Dapper ?
[03:07] <nalioth> feistel: just ask your question
[03:08] <feistel> what is Kubuntu Dapper Live CD?
[03:08] <nalioth> feistel: you answered yourself
[03:09] <feistel> nalioth, what are the differences with a official Kubuntu Live CD?
[03:10] <nalioth> feistel: dapper is a development version of ubuntu. not stable for production use
[03:11] <feistel> the official Kubuntu Live CD is only available on DVD?
[03:13] <nalioth> feistel: it is not. you can get a LiveCd, an Install CD  or a DVD image with both
[03:20] <Traum> !news
[03:21] <Traum> !files
[03:21] <ubotu> Traum: Huh?
[03:21] <Traum> !help
[03:21] <jonatan> can some1 tell me how to use apt?
[03:21] <nalioth> ubotu: tell jonatan about apt-get
[03:22] <WarriorSlayer> hey guys anyone having problems with au8830 audio in kubuntu amd64?
[03:22] <jonatan> kewl
[03:26] <charwood> Running Dapper TF2: My ksysguard has an empty process list and every number in the status bar is 8.  Does anyone have a fix for this?
[03:29] <WarriorSlayer> anyone can help me configuring my sound card under kubuntu amd64?
[03:50] <Khris_dx> how to temp mount HD connected to /dev/hdc? I get an error of "mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /mnt/hd busy". Note: my cdrom is usually connected to /dev/hdc.
[03:54] <dark_suic> mmm
[03:55] <dark_suic> you should try to mount with sudo something like "sudo mount -t your_hd_type /dev/hdc1 /mnt/hd"
[03:55] <dark_suic> i think it should work
[03:55] <dark_suic> but it will mount as root
[03:56] <Khris_dx> dark_suic: same error
[03:57] <dark_suic> it's /mnt/hd created / busy / unmounted?
[03:57] <Khris_dx> I just created /mnt/hd
[03:58] <dark_suic> ok
[03:58] <dark_suic> /dev/hdc mounted before?
[03:58] <dark_suic> i suppose it won't be, but just trying :P
[03:58] <dark_suic> paste here the result of this command (if any):
[03:59] <dark_suic> mount | grep hdc
[03:59] <Khris_dx> Normally it's my cdrom. And it shows an icon for a cdrom under storag devices
[03:59] <Khris_dx> no results returned
[03:59] <dark_suic> ok
[03:59] <Khris_dx> when I did mount | grep hdc
[04:00] <dark_suic> you detected the hd in the bios?
[04:00] <dark_suic> (or autodetected at start, doesn't mind)
[04:00] <dark_suic> if you didn't the system should still think that you have the cd attached
[04:00] <Khris_dx> Okay I will double check. have to reboot 1st. thanks
[04:01] <dark_suic> ok
[04:08] <ODBOD> does anyone have any experience in ndiswrapper in kubuntu?
[04:09] <ODBOD> hello?
[04:09] <dark_suic> i know little about wireless and less about ndiswrapper
[04:09] <dark_suic> although people says that it works quite well
[04:09] <ODBOD> crap.... cause the "make" command doesn't work!
[04:10] <dark_suic> what error gives?
[04:10] <ODBOD> bash: male: command not found
[04:10] <ODBOD> i am currently in root
[04:10] <dark_suic> well, suppose that u wanted to say make and not male :P
[04:10] <ODBOD> my mistake.. I did put make
[04:11] <dark_suic> the problem then is not ndiswrapper
[04:11] <dark_suic> you need make first :P
[04:11] <ODBOD> what???
[04:11] <dark_suic> ODBOD, just do "sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:12] <ODBOD> maybe I forgot to tell you that I don't have an internet connection on my linux box.
[04:12] <ODBOD> i am using my other pc right now
[04:12] <dark_suic> mmmm
[04:12] <dark_suic> good point :p
[04:12] <nalioth> ODBOD: install "build-essential"
[04:12] <dark_suic> you are in linux or windows right now?
[04:12] <ODBOD> windows...!
[04:12] <dark_suic> well, then you have a little problem :P
[04:12] <nalioth> ODBOD: install "build-essential" in your kubuntu
[04:13] <dark_suic> nalioth, he doesn't have an internet connection avaible :P
[04:13] <nalioth> ODBOD: then put your kubuntu install cd in the machine and install "build-essential"
[04:13] <ODBOD> Too few arguments
[04:13] <dark_suic> that's it :P
[04:14] <dark_suic> ODBOD, try with the kubuntu cd/dvd, and sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:14] <dark_suic> if it doesn't work, i guess you will have to copy the packages manually into a cd and try then
[04:14] <nalioth> build-essential is on the install media
[04:15] <dark_suic> i know, but if he doens't have the media right now it would be another solution :P
[04:15] <dark_suic> Khris_dx, u managed to get the hd working?
[04:16] <ODBOD> nothing.. just things saying sources could not be found.. something like that.... no matter what I so
[04:16] <ODBOD> do*
[04:16] <nalioth> ODBOD: are you in windows now or linux?
[04:16] <ODBOD> windows!!!
[04:16] <nalioth> ODBOD: this will NOT work in windows, read what we're telling you
[04:16] <ODBOD> I have a linux box next to me!!!!!
[04:17] <dark_suic> lol :P
[04:17] <dark_suic> ODBOD, edit your sources.list
[04:17] <dark_suic> comment EVERYTHING and uncomment the cdrom line
[04:17] <nalioth> dark_suic: that should not be necessary
[04:17] <dark_suic> but it will be the definitelly-sure-to-work way
[04:17] <nalioth> ODBOD: just make sure the line that starts with deb cdrom DOES NOT  have a # in front of it
[04:17] <GameOver69> anyone know how to make mplayer my default media player in firefox... i ahve the plugin installed for firefox already
[04:18] <dark_suic> then apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install build-essential :P
[04:18] <ODBOD> dear god!!!
[04:18] <ODBOD> i am not connected to the internet on the linux box
[04:19] <dark_suic> ODBOD, it just doesnt mind
[04:19] <ODBOD> why do you think I am trying to install the wireless?
[04:19] <dark_suic> to install the build-essential you just need the cd and apt-get installed
[04:19] <dark_suic> apt-get will search in the cd too
[04:19] <ODBOD> doesn't look like it...
[04:19] <dark_suic> well, do what i told you
[04:19] <dark_suic> comment everything but the cdrom
[04:19] <dark_suic> in the sources.list
[04:20] <dark_suic> and then sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install build-essential
[04:20] <dark_suic> everything done with the cd in the drive
[04:20] <dark_suic> that just should work
[04:21] <nalioth> dark_suic: you can lead a horse to water .. .. ..
[04:22] <dark_suic> i think i didn't understood you
[04:22] <ilba7r> done too much tweeking. install reinstall trials that i forgot how i managed to get it work :(
[04:23] <Pupeno_> ! w32codecs
[04:23] <ubotu> I heard w32codecs is a compilation of binary win32 A/V codecs for many popular proprietary formats not currently supported by free implementations under linux. See http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s to install
[04:23] <GameOver69> hey guys... how come i cant share folders in kubuntu... even after entering adminstrator mode... it is still greyed out
[04:25] <Khris_dx> The number of cylinders for this disk is set to 1826.
[04:25] <Khris_dx> There is nothing wrong with that, but this is larger than 1024,
[04:25] <Khris_dx> and could in certain setups cause problems with:
[04:25] <Khris_dx> 1) software that runs at boot time (e.g., old versions of LILO)
[04:25] <Khris_dx> 2) booting and partitioning software from other OSs
[04:25] <Khris_dx>    (e.g., DOS FDISK, OS/2 FDISK)
[04:25] <dark_suic> i guess i'm going to bed.... just 4:24 am...
[04:25] <Khris_dx> dark_suic: no not yet. Bios detects hd fine. sudo fdisk /dev/hdc gives me a message of previous entries
[04:25] <Red_Herring> hi
[04:25] <nalioth> Khris_dx: please use a pastebin
[04:25] <Red_Herring> i got a question?
[04:26] <Red_Herring> how do i make scripts for a wireless card
[04:26] <dark_suic> Khris_dx, fdisk -l /dev/hdc
[04:26] <Red_Herring> settings
[04:26] <Khris_dx> dark_suic: how do I do that
[04:26] <dark_suic> will show you a list of /dev/hdc partitions
[04:26] <dark_suic> just try mounting it again as before
[04:26] <GameOver69> anyone?
[04:27] <dark_suic> i won't be of much more help, i'm going to bed, it's just 4:27 now...
[04:27] <dark_suic> GameOver69, try "kdesu systemsettings", not sure to work though
[04:27] <dark_suic> goodbye
[04:27] <Red_Herring> by
[04:28] <Red_Herring> hello?
[04:28] <Red_Herring> what files do i use to make a wireless card work by default
[04:29] <Khris_dx> dark_suic: fdisk -l /dev/hdc list the partitions. but, same error as before when mounting
[04:29] <Red_Herring> for some reason the acx driver only accepts MAC addresses for the AP, so i want to make a script to autoconfigure that at startup
[04:30] <dark_suic> Khris_dx, just don't know really much more.. if that doesn't worked, i don't know what it could be...
[04:30] <dark_suic> but it sounds quite weird...
[04:30] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: whats going on?
[04:30] <Khris_dx> okay thanks
[04:30] <dark_suic> good luck, sorry
[04:33] <Red_Herring> wow, unusually quiet
[04:34] <GameOver69> dark_suic: it doesnt work
[04:34] <Red_Herring> whats going on, GameOver69?
[04:34] <GameOver69> nm Red_Herring
[04:34] <Red_Herring> ok
[04:35] <GameOver69> think u can help me 2night?
[04:36] <GameOver69> everytime i want to share a folder/file...... and click admin mode: everything is still greyed out... i cant share files or edit any of my file sharing settings
[04:36] <Red_Herring> for systemsettings?
[04:36] <Red_Herring> yup
[04:36] <Red_Herring> had that problem
[04:36] <Red_Herring> its easy
[04:36] <GameOver69> ok tell me plz
[04:37] <GameOver69> been killin me
[04:37] <Red_Herring> in the terminal do:
[04:37] <Red_Herring> sudo systemsettings
[04:37] <Red_Herring> i think thats all
[04:37] <GameOver69> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-joe" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid 0.
[04:37] <GameOver69> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[04:37] <GameOver69> thats wha ti get
[04:38] <Red_Herring> that should be fine
[04:38] <Lonely> hello :)
[04:38] <Red_Herring> i get the exact same thing
[04:38] <Red_Herring> it still goes on to work
[04:38] <GameOver69> and then go to sharing?
[04:38] <Red_Herring> yup
[04:38] <Lonely> <--- First time IRC user - Second day of linux :)
[04:38] <Red_Herring> that *should* be it
[04:38] <Red_Herring> Lonely: good for you
[04:38] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: how do i pastebin
[04:38] <GameOver69> red_herring: its still greyed out
[04:38] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: no clue
[04:39] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: do you have file sharing enabled?
[04:39] <Lonely> Sorry, I don't mean to come across as overly zealous - just excited to have tried it out :)
[04:39] <Red_Herring> thats fine
[04:40] <bimberi> Lonely no more then :P
[04:40] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: are you SURE you have the file sharing daemon on?
[04:40] <GameOver69> i dont know!
[04:40] <GameOver69> how can i tell
[04:40] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: when I try mounting a tmp HD connected to /dev/hdc I get an error : wrong fs, bad superblock or missing codepage
[04:40] <GameOver69> i cant edit anything
[04:40] <GameOver69> so i have no clue
[04:40] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: huh, i get the same ting
[04:40] <Lonely> Heheh.  I have to say, it's a little bit overwhelming though.  I'm by no means a tech savvy person.  I was incredibly proud just to have installed the OS and logged in.  Right now I'm trying to figure out how to make the internet work
[04:41] <Red_Herring> very good for you Lonely
[04:41] <Red_Herring> it took me 3 months to get linux to work on any of my computers
[04:41] <Lonely> Wow
[04:41] <Lonely> You are probably far more patient then I am
[04:42] <GameOver69> REd_Herring: so what do i do?
[04:42] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: i am a bit confused
[04:42] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: i am not too sure
[04:42] <GameOver69> then i can never share files on my network :(
[04:42] <Red_Herring> oh
[04:42] <Red_Herring> is samba running?
[04:42] <Red_Herring> that *could* be the cause of it
[04:43] <GameOver69> i dont think so.. i didnt click on it
[04:43] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: can you paste ONE line for me?
[04:43] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: yes
[04:43] <Red_Herring> ok
[04:43] <Red_Herring> do this: kate /etc/fstab
[04:43] <Red_Herring> in the terminal
[04:44] <Red_Herring> then paste the line with /dev/hdc on it
[04:45] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: /dev/hdc        /media/cdrom0   udf,iso9660 user,noauto     0       0
[04:45] <Red_Herring> wow, well no wonder
[04:45] <Red_Herring> kubuntu thinks your hard drive is a cd rom
[04:46] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: lol, but I only need this hd connected temporary
[04:46] <Red_Herring> which leads me to beleve that it isnt mounted on /dev/hdc
[04:46] <Red_Herring> are you sure of it?
[04:46] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: do i need to rem and reboot
[04:46] <Red_Herring> not at all
[04:46] <Red_Herring> do you know what the file system is on the removable hard drive?
[04:46] <Red_Herring> because its a simple fix
[04:46] <Lonely> I hate to be a bother, but would any of you be kind enough to help out an old foggy out with setting up internet access?  I am not exactly sure what the first step I'm supposed to take once I log into the desktop
[04:47] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: yes, my cdrom is disconnected and I hooked up this other hd
[04:47] <Red_Herring> what file system is it? ntfs (windows) or fat
[04:47] <GameOver69> Hey Red: any ideas on how to fix the file sharing?
[04:47] <Red_Herring> uhhh
[04:47] <Red_Herring> this is kinda tough juggling these things
[04:48] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: should be ext3. It has an ubuntu install on it
[04:48] <Red_Herring> oh, well then, its even easyer
[04:48] <Red_Herring> ok, this requires some root work, so BE CAREFUL
[04:48] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: i'm ready
[04:49] <Red_Herring> do  (in the terminal) sudo kate /etc/fstab
[04:49] <Red_Herring> and make sure the line that has /dev/hdc says:
[04:51] <Red_Herring> /dev/hdc /media/rmhd ext3 defaults 0 0
[04:51] <Red_Herring> and then run (also in the terminal): sudo mkdir /media/rmhd
[04:51] <Red_Herring> and finally run: sudo mount /dev/hdc
[04:52] <Red_Herring> ya get that?
[04:52] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: yes
[04:52] <Red_Herring> as for GameOver69, have you tried smb4k?
[04:52] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: did it work?
[04:52] <GameOver69> whats that
[04:52] <GameOver69> Red _Herring?
[04:53] <Red_Herring> its a samba filebrowser for kde
[04:53] <Red_Herring> i *think* it can do filesharing
[04:53] <Red_Herring> but i dont share any, just take from people who are sharing on my network ;-)
[04:53] <GameOver69> i can download this from adept?
[04:54] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: should
[04:54] <Red_Herring> or just run sudo apt-get install smb4k
[04:54] <Red_Herring> whatever floats your boat
[04:54] <GameOver69> ok ill look at it... but any idea why file sharing wont let me edit it, even in admin mode?
[04:54] <Red_Herring> yeah, you dont have the service running
[04:54] <Red_Herring> but i dont know why it isnt
[04:54] <Red_Herring> thats my problem
[04:55] <GameOver69> well how can i get it running?
[04:55] <Lonely> Hmm - well clearly you guys have a lot on your plate.  I will try to fiddle around and see what that gets me.  Good luck with all your umm kubuntu-ing ;)  Cheers.
[04:56] <Red_Herring> uhhh, im trying that right now
[04:56] <Red_Herring> W00t
[04:56] <Red_Herring> got it
[04:56] <Red_Herring> wow
[04:56] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: error: mount: /dev/hdc already mounted or /media/rmhd busy
[04:56] <Red_Herring> that was simple
[04:57] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: before running sudo mount /dev/hdc, run sudo umount /dev/hdc
[04:57] <GameOver69> u got it working now?
[04:57] <Red_Herring> as for GameOver69: just install samba
[04:57] <Red_Herring> wow
[04:57] <Red_Herring> i cant believe i didnt think of that
[04:57] <GameOver69> samba is installed htough already isnt it?
[04:57] <GameOver69> by default?
[04:57] <Red_Herring> nope
[04:57] <Red_Herring> i guess it isnt
[04:58] <GameOver69> samba common is installed
[04:58] <Red_Herring> no, ya gotta install samba
[04:58] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: error: "umount: /dev/hdc: not mounted"
[04:58] <Red_Herring> ok, then mount it again
[04:58] <GameOver69> whats the difference red?
[04:59] <Red_Herring> uhh
[04:59] <Red_Herring> samba-common contains the protocols to use samba
[04:59] <Red_Herring> samba is the actual samba daemon
[04:59] <GameOver69> so i can uninstall samba-common?
[04:59] <GameOver69> or i still need it?
[04:59] <Red_Herring> uhh
[04:59] <Red_Herring> keep it
[04:59] <Red_Herring> it cant hurt
[04:59] <Red_Herring> and i think its needed
[05:00] <GameOver69> wow
[05:00] <GameOver69> ur right
[05:00] <GameOver69> it worked
[05:00] <GameOver69> so i dont need smb4?
[05:00] <Red_Herring> nope
[05:00] <GameOver69> ur the man
[05:00] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: same error
[05:00] <Red_Herring> huh
[05:01] <Red_Herring> in that case you need to restart, i think
[05:01] <Red_Herring> but before you do:
[05:01] <GameOver69> now lets see if u can help me iwth this..... i have mpalyer installed and the firefox plugin... but it doesnt show up in my about:plugins... and is not the defualt  player for media in the browser
[05:01] <GameOver69> how can i fix this
[05:01] <Red_Herring> did you disconnect your cd rom without restarting?
[05:02] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: the PC was off when I disconnect cdrom and connected hd
[05:02] <Red_Herring> huh
[05:03] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: i used media connectivity
[05:03] <GameOver69> Red_Herring: whats that
[05:03] <GameOver69> and how do i get... use it... etc
[05:03] <Red_Herring> its a firefox plugin
[05:04] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: bios detects hd and fdisk -l /dev/hdc reports I have 3 partitions
[05:04] <Red_Herring> firefox plugin
[05:04] <Red_Herring> OOOOOOOOOOOh
[05:04] <Red_Herring> i get it
[05:04] <GameOver69> what does it do red
[05:04] <Red_Herring> DUH
[05:04] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: it controls media under firefox
[05:04] <Red_Herring> its self explanitory... for a nerd
[05:05] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: i get whats going on
[05:05] <Red_Herring> /dev/hdc refers to the hard drive
[05:05] <GameOver69> where do i get it
[05:05] <Red_Herring> but you want the PARTITIONS
[05:05] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: its in teh firefox shortcuts
[05:05] <Red_Herring> under firefox links
[05:05] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: I see, i need to re edit fstab
[05:06] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: you need to speficy /dev/hdc1
[05:06] <Red_Herring> and /dev/hdc2
[05:06] <GameOver69> red_Herring: its not there
[05:06] <Red_Herring> etc
[05:06] <shawkins-away> shawkins
[05:06] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: right on
[05:06] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: okay, give me a min
[05:07] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: uhh, lemme check
[05:07] <GameOver69> ok thanks
[05:07] <Red_Herring> under firefox: bookmarks --> firefox and mozilla links --> themes and extentions
[05:08] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: error "wrong fs type, bad option, bad superblock on /dev/hdc1, missing codepage or other error
[05:08] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[05:08] <Red_Herring> try dmesg
[05:08] <Red_Herring> in the termial
[05:09] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: dmesg | tail results: JBD: no valid journal superblock found----- EXT3-fs: error loading journal.
[05:09] <GameOver69> ok REd.... im at the site
[05:11] <Red_Herring> sorry about that
[05:11] <Red_Herring> where was I
[05:11] <Red_Herring> uhh
[05:12] <Red_Herring> as for Khris_dx: are you sure the first partition on the hard drive is an ext3 partition?
[05:12] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: that is what fdisk says
[05:13] <Red_Herring> and as for GameOver69: have you gotten to the firefox extention page?
[05:13] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: hmmm
[05:13] <GameOver69> yeah i installed it
[05:13] <GameOver69> im gonna see how it works
[05:13] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: partition ID 83
[05:13] <Red_Herring> yup, thats ext3
[05:14] <Red_Herring> then its probobly a bad partition
[05:14] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: any way to recover data?
[05:14] <GameOver69> red_Herring: can i get it to play within the browser... or does it awlays play inthe player outsid eht browser
[05:14] <Red_Herring> well, i wouldnt jump to that conclusion yet
[05:15] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: some will...
[05:15] <Red_Herring> when i used vlc, it played within the browser...
[05:15] <Red_Herring> but some didnt play at all
[05:15] <GameOver69> i hated vlc for that
[05:16] <GameOver69> it would say no picture right
[05:16] <Red_Herring> yup
[05:16] <Red_Herring> but with the mediaconnectivity plugin, it does play in the window
[05:16] <Red_Herring> but you can also play it outside it
[05:18] <GameOver69> i cant get it to play inside Red_Herring
[05:18] <GameOver69> it opens the player... and i get errrs... and nothing plays at all
[05:19] <Red_Herring> ok
[05:19] <Red_Herring> stupid ctrl key keeps sticking
[05:19] <GameOver69> did u get my last message REd_Herring?
[05:20] <Red_Herring> that depends
[05:20] <Red_Herring> what was it?
[05:21] <GameOver69> that i cant get anything to paly inside the browser... it opens mplayer... and gives me some error and nothing even plays
[05:21] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[05:21] <Red_Herring> thats odd
[05:21] <Red_Herring> what are you trying to play?
[05:23] <GameOver69> well it ried wmv streaming video
[05:23] <GameOver69> and audio
[05:23] <GameOver69> no luck
[05:23] <Red_Herring> oooooo
[05:23] <Red_Herring> thats a weak point
[05:23] <Red_Herring> of linux
[05:23] <Red_Herring> it can almost NEVER play wmv
[05:24] <Red_Herring> well... i never got it to work
[05:24] <GameOver69> well when mplayer used to work..... it played fine
[05:25] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[05:25] <GameOver69> well how do i get anything to play within the browser
[05:25] <Red_Herring> wierd indeed
[05:25] <Red_Herring> i always used mediaconnectivity
[05:25] <Red_Herring> but if that didnt work
[05:25] <Tm_T> good morning
[05:26] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: would linux equivlant to chkdsk help my other HD?
[05:26] <Red_Herring> maybe you need to uninstall the other plugins to get the mplayer one to work
[05:26] <GameOver69> what other plugins
[05:26] <Tm_T> humm, gstreamer and xine plays wmv just fine
[05:27] <Tm_T> with appropriate plugins ofcourse
[05:27] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: yup. just run...
[05:27] <Red_Herring> hold on
[05:28] <Red_Herring> e3fsk
[05:28] <Red_Herring> or fsck
[05:28] <Red_Herring> which sounds suspiciously sexual, but its not
[05:28] <Red_Herring> :-)
[05:28] <Khris_dx> which is better
[05:29] <Khris_dx> lol, can i run it now in a x terminal
[05:29] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: did you uninstall the vlc plugin before you installed the mplayer plugin?
[05:29] <Red_Herring> Khris_dx: yup
[05:29] <GameOver69> red: YES
[05:29] <Red_Herring> just run: sudo fsck /dev/hdc1
[05:29] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: it helps to have my whole name, when you type in red, hit tab, and it auto-fills in the rest
[05:30] <GameOver69> ahhh
[05:30] <GameOver69> ok
[05:30] <Red_Herring> to go to the basics, do you have mplayer installed?
[05:30] <Red_Herring> and do you have the codecs installed?
[05:30] <Khris_dx> Red_Herring: error: Superblock has an invalid ext3 journal (inode 8). then it asks to clear. do i clear it?
[05:31] <Red_Herring> hmm
[05:31] <GameOver69> yes
[05:31] <GameOver69> and yes Red_Herring
[05:31] <Red_Herring> if you are sure its an ext3 partition, then knock yourself out
[05:31] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: hmmm... let me try this myself
[05:32] <GameOver69> Red_Herring, ok knock yourself out :)
[05:33] <hawking> anyone knows how to set a proftpd ftp server to non-passive mode?
[05:34] <Red_Herring> nope, just got my server running yesterday
[05:35] <Red_Herring> !easybreezy
[05:35] <ubotu> easybreezy is, like, totally, a dead project now, although still available at easybreezy.robotgeek.org - you should check out easyubuntu. Ask me.
[05:35] <GameOver69> in the mean time...  when is adept gonna have kde 3.5 released?
[05:35] <Red_Herring> !easyubuntu
[05:35] <Red_Herring> it has it already
[05:36] <Red_Herring> look on the kubuntu homepage
[05:36] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5
[05:36] <ubotu> I heard kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[05:36] <Red_Herring> yup
[05:36] <Red_Herring> its nice
[05:36] <GameOver69> oo how come its not in synaptic yet?
[05:36] <Red_Herring> because its not...
[05:36] <Red_Herring> actually im not sure
[05:37] <Red_Herring> not bugproof?
[05:37] <GameOver69> this is wha ti get wheni tried to download it
[05:38] <GameOver69> gpg: no ultimately trusted keys found
[05:38] <GameOver69> OK
[05:38] <Red_Herring> its fine
[05:38] <Red_Herring> i got that error too
[05:38] <GameOver69> its not downloading though
[05:39] <Red_Herring> did you update your package list?
[05:39] <GameOver69> no
[05:39] <Red_Herring> that helps :-)
[05:39] <GameOver69> how am i supposed to know :)
[05:39] <Red_Herring> you arent, just nerds like me know that
[05:40] <GameOver69> ok so i updated it
[05:40] <GameOver69> now what
[05:40] <Red_Herring> just upgrade
[05:40] <GameOver69> where
[05:41] <Red_Herring> using adept?
[05:41] <GameOver69> system update wizard?
[05:41] <Red_Herring> sure
[05:41] <Red_Herring> or type in the terminal: sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:41] <GameOver69> so whats the difference between 3.5 and 3.4
[05:41] <Red_Herring> minor yet significant changes
[05:42] <Red_Herring> like kubuntu has a popup blocker and adblock
[05:42] <Red_Herring> not kubuntu, konqueror
[05:42] <GameOver69> bah i dont use konqueror
[05:42] <Red_Herring> i like it
[05:42] <GameOver69> ok kde 3.5 didnt install
[05:42] <Red_Herring> its nice
[05:42] <GameOver69> only some lame small update
[05:42] <Red_Herring> oh
[05:42] <thesilent> hi
[05:43] <GameOver69> katapult
[05:43] <GameOver69> did i not update my list correctly or something
[05:43] <Red_Herring> did you follow each and every of the commands that were on that page?
[05:43] <GameOver69> there were only 2 commands
[05:43] <Red_Herring> there was a 3rd
[05:43] <GameOver69> what was it i didnt see it
[05:44] <Red_Herring> you need to add that line into your sources list
[05:44] <Red_Herring> for kubuntu:
[05:44] <GameOver69> how do i do that
[05:44] <Red_Herring> sudo kate /etc/apt/sources.list
[05:44] <Red_Herring> and add the line to the bottom:
[05:44] <Red_Herring> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[05:45] <GameOver69> any other good lines i can add
[05:45] <GameOver69> for packages
[05:45] <GameOver69> before i close
[05:45] <Red_Herring> there are some out there
[05:45] <Red_Herring> but dont bother now
[05:45] <GameOver69> ok
[05:46] <GameOver69> wow holy crap there are alot of updates now
[05:46] <TheSilent> re :)
[05:48] <Red_Herring> damn ctrl key keeps *sticking*
[05:48] <Red_Herring> or so X-Server thinks
[05:49] <Red_Herring> anyone here?
[05:50] <TheSilent> hi
[05:51] <TheSilent> i have one question. i want install my raedon ATI mobility grafikkart
[05:51] <Red_Herring> ouch
[05:52] <Red_Herring> how old is it?
[05:52] <TheSilent> emm 6mounts it is a X700 128MB
[05:52] <Red_Herring> ooooo
[05:52] <Red_Herring> NICE
[05:52] <Red_Herring> then you are all good
[05:52] <TheSilent> ;)
[05:53] <Red_Herring> the thing is you need to compile it yourself
[05:53] <Red_Herring> i think some programs do it automatically
[05:53] <TheSilent> i have download an install de ati driver
[05:53] <Red_Herring> like easyubuntu
[05:53] <Red_Herring> but there is a very easy howto on the forum
[05:53] <Red_Herring> !ati drivers
[05:53] <ubotu> Red_Herring: Huh?
[05:53] <TheSilent> but i dont know how i can run "aticonfig" in de console
[05:53] <Red_Herring> !atidrivers
[05:53] <ubotu> Red_Herring: parse error: dunno what you're talking about
[05:54] <Red_Herring> TheSilent: hold on
[05:54] <TheSilent> *g* *ATI DRIVERS* ;-)
[05:54] <sampan> !ati
[05:54] <ubotu> ati is probably at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[05:54] <GameOver69> ok last question for hte night if u can fix this...... i have ndiswrapper installed.... wlan0 works but ill be damnit if it starts up.... i put the line in interfaces... but i always have to use dhclient0 to enable it
[05:54] <Red_Herring> THATS IT, thank you sampan
[05:55] <TheSilent> tanks ubotu :)
[05:55] <sampan> sure :)
[05:55] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: been working on it now
[05:55] <GameOver69> so no solution as of yet?
[05:55] <Red_Herring> well...
[05:56] <Red_Herring> no
[05:56] <Red_Herring> not as of  yet
[05:56] <Red_Herring> i dont know where to put it at all
[05:56] <Red_Herring> you need to write it to a file
[05:56] <GameOver69> hmm not everything installed with the update.....some things were broken>?
[05:56] <Red_Herring> i think its /etc/network/interfaces
[05:56] <Red_Herring> but after that... i dont know what to do
[05:57] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: what do you mean?
[05:57] <GameOver69> there was an error
[05:57] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: error... as in what?
[05:57] <GameOver69> and now in terminal i get the following: You might want to run `apt-get -f install' to correct these.
[05:57] <GameOver69> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:58] <GameOver69> and lists a whole bunch of stuff
[05:58] <Red_Herring> oooooo
[05:58] <Red_Herring> try "sudo apt-get check"
[05:58] <GameOver69> same thing
[05:58] <GameOver69> can i cut and pste everything?
[05:58] <Red_Herring> well...
[05:59] <GameOver69> pleaseeeeeeeeeeee
[05:59] <Red_Herring> you technicallt arent supposed to
[05:59] <GameOver69> its not tha tmuch
[05:59] <Red_Herring> but just paste what you think is important
[05:59] <GameOver69> The following packages have unmet dependencies:
[05:59] <GameOver69>   akregator: Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   kaddressbook: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>                 Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   karm: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>         Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   kdepim-kio-plugins: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>                       Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   kdepim-wizards: Depends: kdepim-kresources (>= 4:3.5.0) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>                   Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>                   Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   kmail: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>          Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <sampan> !pastebin
[05:59] <ubotu> well, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[05:59] <GameOver69>   knotes: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>           Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   korganizer: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>               Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   libkpimexchange1: Depends: libkcal2b (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69>   libkpimidentities1: Depends: libkdepim1a (>= 4:3.4.2) but it is not installed
[05:59] <GameOver69> E: Unmet dependencies. Try using -f.
[05:59] <Red_Herring> oh
[05:59] <GameOver69> there
[06:00] <Red_Herring> i see whats going on
[06:00] <GameOver69> im glad u do
[06:00] <Red_Herring> but as how to fix it...
[06:00] <Red_Herring> ya gotta use the terminal from this point on
[06:00] <GameOver69> ok
[06:00] <GameOver69> in what sense
[06:00] <GameOver69> to fix it
[06:00] <Red_Herring> sudo -s
[06:01] <Red_Herring> apt-get check
[06:01] <Red_Herring> apt-get update
[06:01] <Red_Herring> apt-get upgrade
[06:01] <soleblaze> anyone here know if there are any benifits of running kubuntu for amd64 instead of 32?
[06:01] <GameOver69> ok
[06:01] <Red_Herring> hey robotgeek, i was just talking to you
[06:01] <GameOver69> i still have all the same errors
[06:02] <Red_Herring> soleblaze: dont do it, amd64 has too many disadvantages
[06:02] <robotgeek> yeah, i finished "work" for today, so i join support channel
[06:02] <Red_Herring> can ya help out GameOver69?
[06:02] <GameOver69> do i just force it?
[06:02] <Red_Herring> hes got a whole mess of problems, and so far ive gotten through 1.5
[06:03] <soleblaze> yeah..you're probably right..I just feel like I'm wasting a 64bit cpu running at 32..but eh
[06:03] <Red_Herring> GameOver69: NO
[06:03] <GameOver69> lol
[06:03] <Red_Herring> dont force it at all
[06:03] <GameOver69> how come i get all these problems
[06:03] <robotgeek> GameOver69: what problem, i missed out
[06:03] <Tm_T> GameOver69: do as it suggests, try "sudo apt-get -f install"
[06:03] <Red_Herring> try apt-get install libkcal2b
[06:03] <robotgeek> yeah, that usually works
[06:03] <Tm_T> robotgeek: missing dependencies
[06:04] <Red_Herring> Tm_T: well... that depends on what he gets from apt-get install libkcal2b
[06:04] <Red_Herring> because if libkcal2b is not installed...
[06:04] <GameOver69> Red_Herring, still wont let me
[06:04] <GameOver69> i get all those errors
[06:04] <Red_Herring> not the same errors
[06:04] <Red_Herring> right?
[06:04] <Red_Herring> why cant libkcal2b be installed?
[06:04] <Tm_T> :(
[06:04] <GameOver69> looks like the same
[06:05] <GameOver69> this is wha ti get for tryin to upgrade to  3.5 huh
[06:05] <Tm_T> GameOver69: try what I said, but make sure it doesn't wan't to remove anything
[06:05] <Red_Herring> libkdepim1a and libkcal2b seem to be the problem
[06:05] <Tm_T> or if does, make sure there's some replacement for those
[06:05] <GameOver69> well i have one for forcing,.. and one for not forcing... i really dont know what to do and i dont want to screw up kubuntu
[06:05] <Tm_T> GameOver69: -f is not force
[06:06] <Red_Herring> go with it
[06:06] <GameOver69> Tm_T, what is it
[06:06] <Red_Herring> use -f
[06:06] <Tm_T> GameOver69: more like fix ;)
[06:06] <robotgeek> GameOver69: it's safe if apt tells you to do it :)
[06:06] <Red_Herring> you mean it does force it but its an error w/ naming thats the problem?
[06:07] <soleblaze> are there any cd images for dapper kubuntu or do I just do an upgrade from hoarty? hoary...
[06:07] <GameOver69> i still get the same errors
[06:07] <Red_Herring> becuase i have had that problem before
[06:07] <Red_Herring> soleblaze: sure
[06:07] <Red_Herring> !dapper
[06:07] <ubotu> [dapper]  The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[06:07] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: it doesn't force anything, just fix dependencies etc
[06:07] <Red_Herring> Tm_T: really? thats nice
[06:07] <Tm_T> man apt-get
[06:08] <GameOver69> ok then what
[06:08] <Tm_T> GameOver69: use pastebin, give whole set with command you used
[06:08] <GameOver69> u want me to past bing what man apt-get shows me
[06:08] <Tm_T> GameOver69: and for overal netiquette, over 2 lines -> pastebin
[06:09] <Tm_T> GameOver69: yes, from your command (including it) to very end
[06:10] <sampan> pastebin of "man apt-get" is not gonna be very enlightening ;)
[06:10] <Tm_T> sampan: that's not what I meant =)
[06:10] <sampan> that's what HE asked though
[06:10] <sampan> and you said "yes" ;)
[06:10] <GameOver69> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7558
[06:10] <Tm_T> whooops!
[06:10] <GameOver69> oh man
[06:10] <sampan> lol
[06:10] <Tm_T> I'm stupid
[06:10] <Tm_T> and very tired
[06:11] <GameOver69> ok what am i pasting
[06:11] <Tm_T> and lack of sleep
[06:11] <Tm_T> GameOver69: "sudo apt-get -f install" ofcourse =)
[06:11] <sampan> that was memorable :D
[06:11] <Tm_T> sampan: no shit
[06:11] <Tm_T> sampan: just don't remind me ever, and you can stay here
[06:11] <sampan> lol okay :P
[06:11] <Tm_T> f*ing 4h sleep
[06:12] <Tm_T> haven't got proper sleep for week now
[06:12] <robotgeek> maybe post to the quotes site :)
[06:12] <GameOver69> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7559
[06:12] <GameOver69> ok check it out
[06:12] <Tm_T> robotgeek: don't even think...
[06:12] <robotgeek> Tm_T: lol
[06:13] <sampan> lol
[06:13] <Tm_T> robotgeek: hey, say yes !
[06:13] <Tm_T> whoosp
[06:13] <Tm_T> whoops even
[06:13] <robotgeek> Tm_T: go sleep
[06:13] <Tm_T> GameOver69: do it! yes!
[06:13] <Tm_T> robotgeek: can't
[06:14] <GameOver69> ok that was easy enough
[06:14] <Tm_T> I tried all night, but just don't... hate this
[06:14] <GameOver69> Tm_T, is that all?
[06:14] <Tm_T> we spent what, half an hour for this easy task? shame...
[06:15] <GameOver69> haha
[06:15] <GameOver69> indeed
[06:15] <GameOver69> so do i need to restart for kde 3.5
[06:15] <robotgeek> next time, do what apt-get tells you to do. :)
[06:15] <sampan> tm_t  insomnia sucks ... i spent 5 months like that -- sleeping less than an hour or two a night.  it was, literally, hell.
[06:15] <Tm_T> GameOver69: well, now it installs, right? just wait, log out, log in and it's done
[06:15] <Tm_T> sampan: I know it
[06:15] <Tm_T> oh well, I think I skip school today
[06:15] <GameOver69> hmm
[06:15] <GameOver69> according to adept aupdater
[06:16] <GameOver69> i still need to uopgrade 58 packages
[06:16] <Tm_T> then do so
[06:17] <GameOver69> ok in hte meant ime... when is kde 4.0 expected to come out?
[06:17] <Tm_T> GameOver69: not soon
[06:17] <Tm_T> so don't hold your breath yet
[06:17] <GameOver69> Tm_T, another quick question.... why do some programs not open the first time around
[06:18] <Tm_T> like what apps?
[06:18] <GameOver69> like adept.... sometimes open office, etc
[06:18] <Tm_T> hmm, I don'y use those
[06:18] <Tm_T> but they should
[06:18] <GameOver69> happens on this computer and my other one
[06:19] <GameOver69> ok do i need to logout and back in.. or restart my computer to see the changnes in kde?
[06:20] <Tm_T> log out and log in
[06:20] <bushito> i am getting this error everywhere, "gstreamser error, alsa cannot play sound default device is on use /dev/dsp" and i get no sound can anyone help me?
[06:20] <Tm_T> bushito: arts running?
[06:20] <bushito> Tm_T: i am a novice i am not really sure
[06:20] <bushito> just installed kubuntu -.-
[06:20] <GameOver69> alright thanks for ur help. appreciate it
[06:20] <Tm_T> GameOver69: np, always fun to help =)
[06:21] <robotgeek> killall artsd ?
[06:21] <Tm_T> hehe
[06:21] <bushito> T:_T help!!
[06:21] <Tm_T> arts is quite unneeded
[06:21] <bushito> how do i know if arts is playing??
[06:21] <Tm_T> bushito: yeah, try killall artsd and then again
[06:22] <Tm_T> if then gstreamer works, there's the problem
[06:22] <bushito> and how i unistall arts?
[06:22] <bushito> apt-get remove artsd?
[06:23] <robotgeek> bushito: no, keep it around :)
[06:23] <bushito> wuuaa sounds back
[06:23] <Tm_T> hehe
[06:23] <Tm_T> bushito: now disable kde sound system from Kcontrol
[06:23] <bushito> i was reinstalling
[06:23] <bushito> all day >_<
[06:23] <Tm_T> haha
[06:23] <robotgeek> bushito: i was just guessing, lol
[06:24] <Tm_T> robotgeek: it's usually arts or esd, both sucks :(
[06:24] <Red_Herring> hello
[06:24] <Red_Herring> back
[06:24] <Tm_T> alo
[06:24] <Red_Herring> what'd i miss?
[06:24] <Tm_T> front
[06:24] <robotgeek> Tm_T: true that
[06:24] <bushito> kcontrol??
[06:24] <Tm_T> yes
[06:25] <bushito> i dont find kcontrol
[06:25] <bushito> ...
[06:25] <Tm_T> bushito: or, system settings
[06:25] <Red_Herring> anyone gonna fill me in on this?
[06:25] <bushito> aahh
[06:25] <Tm_T> and there's sound & multimedia
[06:25] <bushito> and now? sound & media
[06:25] <bushito> and now?
[06:25] <bushito> xD
[06:26] <Tm_T> well, first checkbox you see there, "enable the sound system"
[06:26] <Tm_T> uncheck it, so you don't have arts in use anymore
[06:26] <bushito> wee
[06:26] <bushito> done
[06:26] <bushito> =3
[06:26] <Tm_T> I think you would have notification sounds still?
[06:26] <bushito> and isnt there another way beside uncheking that'?
[06:27] <Tm_T> those bells and clicks etc?
[06:27] <bushito> eehh
[06:27] <bushito> i mean without deactivating that
[06:27] <bushito> cause isnt my sound card
[06:27] <bushito> unconfigured now?
[06:27] <Red_Herring> try typing in esd, see if you can hear anything
[06:27] <Tm_T> bushito: no
[06:27] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: NO!
[06:27] <Red_Herring> fine
[06:28] <Tm_T> bushito: now we configureother player to your system sounds :)
[06:28] <Red_Herring> you could just hit ctrl-c right after
[06:28] <bushito> Tm_T: wee =D how?
[06:28] <Tm_T> bushito: you know how to do scripts? if not, now you learn...
[06:29] <bushito> yay!! Tm_T no i dont know
[06:29] <bushito> Tm_T: and i am wishing to learn!
[06:29] <Tm_T> bushito: first of all, install few packages: "sudo apt-get install alsaplayer-text alsaplayer-alsa"
[06:29] <bushito> can i do sudo aptitude install
[06:30] <bushito> cause i dont trust apt-get
[06:30] <Tm_T> yes
[06:30] <Tm_T> both works
[06:30] <bushito> >_> it always get me broken packages
[06:30] <Red_Herring> wha? why use aptitude?
[06:30] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: why not
[06:30] <bushito> aptitude manage broken package
[06:30] <bushito> =D it tells you n.n
[06:30] <Red_Herring> ok
[06:30] <bushito> and if there is a broken package
[06:30] <bushito> it fices it =D
[06:30] <bushito> fixes*
[06:30] <Red_Herring> thats nice
[06:30] <Tm_T> bushito: hit me when you get those installed
[06:30] <Red_Herring> but whatever... continue
[06:31] <bushito> done n.n
[06:31] <Tm_T> ok
[06:31] <Tm_T> now, you know nano? ;)
[06:31] <bushito> Tm_T: i only know where i am sitted =D and it is called chair n.n
[06:31] <Tm_T> haha
[06:31] <Red_Herring> nice
[06:32] <bushito> i like vim =P
[06:32] <bushito> more colourfull
[06:32] <Red_Herring> whatever floats your boat
[06:33] <Tm_T> use whatever,create file foo.sh (replace foo to anything you like, this will be the player script"
[06:33] <Tm_T> )
[06:34] <bushito> done
[06:34] <Tm_T> #!/bin/sh
[06:34] <bushito> ???
[06:34] <bushito> shouldi write that here??
[06:34] <Red_Herring> yeah
[06:34] <Tm_T> this is first line, pointing that it will use sh to run commands
[06:34] <Red_Herring> in nano
[06:34] <Red_Herring> or  vim
[06:35] <bushito> sounds like a C/c++ lib (O_o)
[06:35] <Tm_T> and real magic: alsaplayer -d plug:dmix -l 0.5 -i text -q $*
[06:35] <Red_Herring> it kinda is
[06:35] <Tm_T> -l 0.5 -> use half of volume
[06:35] <bushito> "and real magic: alsaplayer -d plug:dmix -l 0.5 -i text -q $*"???
[06:35] <bushito> or
[06:35] <Tm_T> so adjust it if you like
[06:35] <bushito> and real magic: "alsaplayer -d plug:dmix -l 0.5 -i text -q $*"??
[06:35] <Tm_T> latter one
[06:36] <bushito> in another line
[06:36] <Red_Herring> bushito: add in alsaplayer -d plug:dmix -l 0.5 -i text -q $* on a separate line
[06:36] <bushito> or in same line?
[06:36] <Tm_T> yes
[06:36] <Tm_T> separate line
[06:36] <bushito> done
[06:36] <Tm_T> save file
[06:36] <Red_Herring> Tm_T: how do i get those to run at startup AND as root?
[06:36] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: you don't run it at startup ;)
[06:36] <bushito> done
[06:37] <Red_Herring> i do
[06:37] <Red_Herring> im doing an unrelated script
[06:37] <Red_Herring> forgot to mention that
[06:37] <Tm_T> and now in konsole: "chmod +x foo.sh" or whatever was your file
[06:37] <Red_Herring> but i want my wireless card to be configured at startup
[06:37] <Tm_T> Red_Herring: I tell it later
[06:38] <bushito> done
[06:38] <robotgeek> Red_Herring: add the modules to /etc/modules, and the relevant wireless information to /etc/network/interfaces
[06:38] <Tm_T> ok... now run kcontrol from konsole
[06:38] <robotgeek> Red_Herring, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[06:38] <bushito> but shouldnt i be running those command with sudo??
[06:38] <Red_Herring> Tm_T: when you say later...
[06:38] <Tm_T> bushito: nope
[06:38] <bushito> okey
[06:38] <Red_Herring> robotgeek: no, thats not my problem
[06:38] <bushito> dont got kcontrol
[06:38] <bushito> =P
[06:38] <Tm_T> err
[06:38] <bushito> or maybe i do
[06:38] <robotgeek> 07:40 < Red_Herring> but i want my wireless card to be configured at startup
[06:39] <bushito> ...
[06:39] <bushito> wrong typoed it xD
[06:39] <bushito> waitiing for orders sire!!!!
[06:39] <Tm_T> bushito: sound & multimedia -> norifications .>
[06:40] <Tm_T> player settings ->
[06:40] <bushito> done
[06:40] <Tm_T> "use external player" and point to your script
[06:40] <Tm_T> now, test if it works now
[06:40] <bushito> how do i test?
[06:41] <bushito> i dont see a test button
[06:41] <Tm_T> hum, you pressed ok already? do it.
[06:41] <bushito> yeah
[06:42] <bushito> i pressed appply
[06:42] <Tm_T> just play any notification sound in that control
[06:43] <bushito> well i only see test
[06:43] <bushito> on sound system
[06:43] <bushito> and it is desable
[06:44] <dbglt> hi
[06:44] <Tm_T> select notification which have sound, and now theres play button in front of file name field
[06:47] <bushito> yep
[06:47] <bushito> i got sound
[06:47] <bushito> xP
[06:47] <Tm_T> ok
[06:47] <bushito> another thing i downloaded and installed th w32 codecs
[06:48] <Tm_T> it works now
[06:48] <bushito> and i cannot see the common files
[06:48] <Tm_T> atleast should =)
[06:48] <bushito> =/
[06:48] <bushito> avi, mpg, wmv
[06:48] <Tm_T> in what player
[06:48] <bushito> Kaffeine Player
[06:48] <Tm_T> and with gstreamer or xine?
[06:48] <Tm_T> here, just works
[06:49] <bushito> xine?
[06:49] <Tm_T> bushito: you have multiverse enabled?
[06:49] <bushito> let me install
[06:49] <bushito> yes sire Tm_T
[06:49] <Tm_T> ok, then...
[06:49] <bushito> then...? (O_O)
[06:50] <Tm_T> apt-get install gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse
[06:51] <bushito> gstreamer0.8-plugins-multiverse is already the newest version.
[06:51] <Tm_T> ooh
[06:51] <Tm_T> good
[06:51] <Tm_T> and gstreamer0.8-plugins ?
[06:52] <bushito> just putted a lock of package
[06:52] <bushito> that will stay back
[06:52] <bushito> xP
[06:52] <bushito> and nothing happened
[06:52] <Tm_T> ?
[06:53] <Tm_T> lock?
[06:53] <bushito> nope
[06:53] <Tm_T> !mp3
[06:53] <ubotu> mp3 is, like, totally, a non-free format. To enable mp3 capability, read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[06:53] <bushito> xP already did that
[06:54] <Tm_T> uff, try to get some sleep! ->>>
[06:54] <bushito> even installed mplayer =O
[06:54] <fooldrop> im having trouble logging in through LDAP with KDE
[06:54] <fooldrop> XFCE and Fluxbox work fine though
[06:55] <fooldrop> any idea how this could happen?  souind server gave an error too
[06:55] <fooldrop> and it is very very slow to load
[06:56] <phasegen> anyone know how to reconfigure system time?
[06:58] <robotgeek> phasegen: right clicking on the clock doesn't work?
[06:58] <fooldrop> phasegen, date
[06:59] <fooldrop> phasegen, or try ntpdate
[07:00] <phasegen> robotgeek:  Yes and no, it seems to also change the time in my motherboard bios when I do that.  I'm trying to sync them at the right time
[07:01] <robotgeek> phasegen: dual boot ?
[07:02] <phasegen> robotgeek:  was anticipating doing that for a class I'm about to take
[07:03] <_dbglt> hi again
[07:03] <dbglt> I installed gvim via apt-get
[07:03] <robotgeek> phasegen: yes, i suppose the OS time and the motherboard time will sync
[07:03] <dbglt> and it installed like 30 gnome-related associated files
[07:03] <dbglt> I now want to remove it
[07:04] <dbglt> can I get it to remove all of those dependencies it pulled in too?
[07:04] <robotgeek> dbglt: should have tried kvim or something?
[07:04] <dbglt> I use gvim on windows, but the one I installed for linux is ugly heh
[07:04] <robotgeek> dbglt: can you tell me the exact package name, there are abt 4 gvims you can install
[07:04] <dbglt> I installed the gnome version, not the gtk one
[07:05] <phasegen> robotgeek:  right now my mobo time is right for local.  kde shows six hours behind.
[07:05] <dbglt> robotgeek: I want the one which I can apply my kde styles/colours to - I've done it before
[07:05] <dbglt> robotgeek: I assumed, wrongly, that it was the gnome one
[07:05] <robotgeek> dbglt: there should be kvim, i think. you don't really need gvim
[07:05] <_theo> ??
[07:05] <Tm_T> there's Kate too
[07:05] <_theo> ok
[07:06] <dbglt> last I heard, kvim was abandoned from yzis
[07:06] <dbglt> kyzis
[07:06] <dbglt> which I tried a few months back, and was nigh on useless
[07:06] <dbglt> is there any way to get rid of the dependencies which were installed with my gnome-gvim?
[07:06] <dbglt> *abandoned for
[07:07] <dbglt> any ideas one way or the other?
[07:08] <robotgeek> dbglt: one sec
[07:09] <_chani> I just installed kubuntu, it's stuck at 640x480 resolution despite ebtter settings being listed in xorg.conf, and I have about 10 minutes to fix this because it's not my computer.
[07:09] <_chani> help!
[07:11] <_chani> I don't understand how it can seem to disregard org.conf
[07:11] <_chani> *xorg.conf
[07:13] <bushito> _chani
[07:13] <bushito> _chani: try running sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:13] <robotgeek> dbglt: try debfoster
[07:14] <bushito> _chani: when you finish configurating restart x with alt + ctrl + backspace
[07:16] <_chani> bushito: will try when adept is done, thanks
[07:16] <dbglt> robotgeek: thanks :)
[07:17] <bushito> hmm i can get to play my video files already download w32codecs
[07:18] <bushito> downloaded*
[07:18] <bushito> any other ideas..??
[07:18] <robotgeek> bushito: install kaffeine-xine
[07:18] <bushito> robotgeek: hmm let me try it
[07:19] <hatake_kakashi> anyone got a partition that's on xfs?
[07:22] <_chani> bushito: this seems to just be redoing xorg.conf - but xorg.conf was already fine. something about kubuntu is preventing me from using anything other than 640x480 even thought there are other settings in there. unless it's using another config file somewhere else? o.0
[07:22] <_chani> it's not making sense
[07:22] <robotgeek> _chani: try ctrl + alt + '+'
[07:23] <robotgeek> i think that increases resolution
[07:25] <dbglt> only thing missing from my other gentoo install now is my nice coloured prompt!
[07:25] <dbglt> when that's done, it'll all be good
[07:25] <dbglt> :)
[07:25] <hatake_kakashi> robotgeek: ever used xfs?
[07:25] <robotgeek> hatake_kakashi: no
[07:25] <hatake_kakashi> robotgeek: bah
[07:26] <_chani> robotgeek: ctrl-alt-+ does not work at all. seriously. xorg.conf has about 5 resolutions listed, kubuntu's config thing lists 2 (640x480 and something worse).
[07:26] <_chani> this is weird and mean and I don't have time :(
[07:27] <_chani> this comp has more than enough hardware problems
[07:27] <_chani> oh, and knoppix was fine with sane resolutions
[07:27] <robotgeek> _chani, sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[07:27] <robotgeek> and select only the maximum resolution?
[07:28] <_chani> robotgeek: that's whta someone else suggested, but it just redoes xorg.conf which already has the right settings
[07:28] <_chani> hmmmmm....
[07:28] <_chani> *only* the max? I'll try
[07:28] <robotgeek> :)
[07:29] <_chani> brb then. *crosses fingers*
[07:33] <chakie_work> morning
[07:35] <chakie_work> i'm trying to compile kdesvn on a breezy, and i end up with an error during the configure stage that has me baffled
[07:36] <chakie_work> the config.log snippet is here: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/520242
[07:36] <chakie_work> and the final error message is: "configure: error: you need to install kdelibs first."
[07:36] <chakie_work> of course, i do have them installed
[07:37] <chakie_work> and i also have: /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so
[07:38] <chakie_work> at first i had g++ aliased to another version than the one that the above lib was compiled with, and that gave an error. changing it back to 3.4 and i now see no clear error anymore
[07:38] <chakie_work> no wonder people hate the autotools and want to get rid of them
[07:41] <hatake_kakashi> chakie_work: by what method did you install kdelibs?
[07:41] <chakie_work> hatake_kakashi: from a kde 3.5 repo
[07:41] <hatake_kakashi> chakie_work: via apt-get?
[07:41] <chakie_work> yes
[07:42] <chakie_work> from: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main
[07:42] <chakie_work> no other hand compiled extra stuff, and no broken packages or failed upgrades
[07:42] <hatake_kakashi> maybe you might need to edit the config file to point to the appropriate location
[07:43] <chakie_work> it does find the correct file
[07:43] <chakie_work> because if "g++" is not 3.4.x then it complains about /usr/lib/kde3/plugins/designer/kdewidgets.so being compiled with another compiler
[07:45] <chakie_work> configure also says "taking that" under the line where that lib is listed
[07:47] <_chani> it's a problem with the sync & refresh rate. it doesn't guess them properly.
[07:50] <_chani> google found me a refresh rate but not sync. darn.
[07:50] <_chani> anyone got any wild guesses, for a 17" lcd?
[08:09] <chakie_work> hm, what is APR?
[08:10] <chakie_work> ah, apache stuff
[08:14] <chakie_work> hm, and what is neon?
[08:14] <chakie_work> ah, webdav stuff
[08:19] <chakie_work> yes, got my configure to work by just commenting out some stuff :)
[08:22] <chakie_work> hm, but it doesn't of course compile
[08:22] <chakie_work> fails at the kdewidgets
[08:22] <robotgeek> chakie_work: bmpx?
[08:22] <chakie_work> no, kdesvn
[08:22] <robotgeek> sorry, guess not
[08:23] <chakie_work> a hell of a project to get to compile apparently
[08:23] <chakie_work> or then my kde install is very broken
[08:29] <capotej> anyone have an i810
[08:30] <capotej> im trying to get 3d accel to work but glxgears just spins without giving me an fps
[08:31] <Tm_T> capotej: glxgears -printfps
[08:31] <Tm_T> just remember, it's not benchmark
[08:31] <Tm_T> just if it's under 400 -> you might have some problems with 3d accel, _might_
[08:33] <capotej> awesome
[08:33] <capotej> im getting twice that of suse
[08:33] <capotej> 602
[08:33] <Tm_T> that number says nothing really
[08:33] <capotej> well i use it for personal reasons
[08:33] <capotej> i know that if its under 300 something is wrong
[08:33] <Tm_T> test fps in some game to get real benchmark
[08:34] <chakie_work> an i810 is no speed demon...
[08:35] <chakie_work> old crap
[08:36] <chakie_work> hm, where are headers installed for the kde widgets that are available in designer? such as KIntNumInput
[08:38] <chakie_work> what a mess
[08:40] <capotej> well i have an 855GM
[08:40] <capotej> uses the same driver tho
[08:40] <chakie_work> no files seem to include the kde widgets
[08:41] <capotej> i have a program that requires liblua.so
[08:41] <capotej> so i installed all the lua packages
[08:41] <capotej> and still nothing
[08:42] <chakie_work> capotej: maybe you need liblua?
[08:42] <capotej> yea i installed lua and liblua
[08:42] <capotej> both 4.0 and 5.0
[08:43] <capotej> is there a way to refresh the libraries
[08:43] <capotej> ive ran ldconfig
[08:55] <chakie_work> anyone have suggestions for kde svn clients?
[08:55] <chakie_work> preferably something that compiles on breezy
[08:55] <chakie_work> or can be directly installed and used. kdesvn it isn't
[08:56] <Tm_T> chakie_work: svn?
[08:56] <chakie_work> Tm_T: subversion
[08:56] <Tm_T> chakie_work: I mean, use svn
[08:56] <Tm_T> apt-get install subversion
[08:56] <Tm_T> that's it
[08:56] <chakie_work> Tm_T: yes, i do. but i'd like a graphical client
[08:56] <Tm_T> chakie_work: hum, it works in konqueror
[08:56] <Tm_T> iirc
[08:57] <chakie_work> Tm_T: yes, with the kio-svn io-slave
[08:57] <Tm_T> yu
[08:57] <Tm_T> humm?
[08:57] <chakie_work> Tm_T: it's from the same project/page as the kdesvn client, so i assume it's neither installed nor compilable
[08:57] <Tm_T> chakie_work: apt-get install kdesvn-kio-plugins
[08:58] <Tm_T> it's installable
[08:58] <Tm_T> easily
[08:58] <chakie_work> oh
[08:58] <Tm_T> ;)
[08:58] <chakie_work> well, that's good news
[08:58] <Tm_T> chakie_work: small tip: apt-cache search
[08:58] <chakie_work> i looked through all *svn* packages, but must've missed that one
[08:58] <Tm_T> apt-cache search kio | grep svn  gives only that package
[08:59] <chakie_work> i use "aptitude search x", less to type :)
[08:59] <chakie_work> it's easy if you know exactly what you look for
[09:00] <chakie_work> hm, no, i have no such package
[09:00] <Tm_T> humm
[09:00] <chakie_work> what repo do you get it from?
[09:00] <chakie_work> i have universe and multiverse available, as well as one for kde 3.5
[09:01] <Tm_T> humm, lemme see
[09:02] <Tm_T> pool/universe/k/kdesvn/kdesvn-kio-plugins_0.7.2-2_i386.deb
[09:02] <Tm_T> so universe
[09:02] <chakie_work> hm
[09:02] <Tm_T> wait a minute!
[09:02] <Tm_T> it's not installed in my system
[09:04] <Tm_T> subversion-tools maybe
[09:05] <chakie_work> no, it doesn't depend on kde in any way
[09:05] <chakie_work> i guess there maybe was such a package but it got pulled at some time
[09:06] <chakie_work> cvs seems to be much better supported on the tool front. cervisia works nicely and so does a huge amount of other tools
[09:11] <tRSS> Hey guys, when I play my mp3s in xmms, i can hear the sound, but when I use amarok, I can't hear anything. In fact, I don't think the file is playing at all! Although, the files play count increases
[09:14] <sampan> trss  that's probably because xmms has mp3 support built in, while amarok needs to have some additional multimedia packages installed
[09:14] <sampan> ubotu tell trss about multimedia
[09:14] <tRSS> sampan: where can I find them, what am I looking for?
[09:15] <sampan> trss  the bot (ubotu) just msged you -- follow the link to the wiki and follow the directions :)  they're simple
[09:15] <tRSS> thanks man! and I love the bot (ubotu) too!
[09:15] <tRSS> :)
[09:15] <sampan> :D  the ubuntu team does a good job -- ubotu's great
[09:19] <chakie_work> yeah, the mp3 stuff was simple to get to work
[09:25] <Cheapy> yeah i love both ubuntu and kubuntu
[09:25] <Cheapy> i don't have it installed now though... :(
[09:25] <Cheapy> mainly because i'm using a radeon 9500 pro right now
[09:25] <Cheapy> and sticking my old fx5200 in would make my new computer a waste of power
[09:26] <Tm_T> ubotu: who owns you?
[09:26] <ubotu> cafuego
[09:26] <Tm_T> :)
[09:26] <Tm_T> ubotu: whois cafuego
[09:26] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, Tm_T
[09:26] <Tm_T> bah
[09:28] <tRSS> ubotu: who are you?
[09:28] <ubotu> I think you lost me on that one, tRSS
[09:28] <tRSS> ubotu: come on man, its not that hard?
[09:28] <ubotu> Wish i knew, tRSS
[09:28] <tRSS> ubotu: you know, you are one funny bot! :)
[09:28] <ubotu> tRSS: what are you talking about?
[09:33] <Tm_T> ubotu: how are you?
[09:33] <ubotu> Tm_T: mas o menos
[09:33] <Tm_T> :)
[09:34] <Tm_T> ubotu: who am I
[09:34] <ubotu> Tm_T: Bugger all, i dunno
[09:34] <Tm_T> damn
[09:34] <Tm_T> ubotu: Tm_T
[09:34] <ubotu> Syntax error in line 1, Tm_T
[09:34] <Tm_T> :)
[09:35] <dbglt> hello again
[09:36] <Tm_T> nooo! go away!
[09:36] <Tm_T> ;--P
[09:36] <Tm_T> not enough sleep, so pardon
[09:36] <dbglt> adept likes to freeze up
[09:37] <dbglt> I repeat my age-old question: perhaps someone here may know
[09:37] <dbglt> why does adept have different fonts to that of my other kde applications?
[09:37] <dbglt> it looks butt ugly
[09:38] <Tm_T> it uses different senttings, root user's settings to be precise
[09:38] <Tm_T> errh, I can tyep
[09:38] <Tm_T> type
[09:47] <arrinmurr> dbglt: start kcontrol with "kdesu kcontrol" and adjust Appearance & Themes -> Fonts there
[09:47] <dbglt> arrinmurr: I copied over my user's .kde directory to /root
[09:47] <dbglt> and it seems to work
[09:47] <dbglt> dunno :\
[09:48] <arrinmurr> ah, ok
[09:48] <dbglt> sorry about the disconnections and such, my isp is in the midst of a choking spasm
[09:49] <dbglt> now adept is not ugly
[09:49] <dbglt> it is just slow :)
[09:50] <dbglt> Xlib: connection to ":0.0" refused by server
[09:50] <dbglt> Xlib: No protocol specified
[09:50] <dbglt> xhost:  unable to open display ":0.0"
[09:51] <dbglt> any idea how I can resolve that? I remember having similar troubles with gentoo a while back... xhost + localhost, I tried that
[09:51] <dbglt> no luck
[09:53] <dbglt> eek
[09:53] <dbglt> I can't start any application now
[09:53] <dbglt> I get that message
[09:53] <dbglt> :(
[09:56] <dbglt> ok fixed!
[10:03] <Aji-Dahaka> how 'bout this kubuntu, huh?
[10:03] <gamma> just wanted to announce i successfully got kubuntu up and running after running gentoo for the last 4 years
[10:04] <gamma> no speed difference, no 3 hours of compiling
[10:04] <gamma> :D
[10:04] <Aji-Dahaka> :)
[10:04] <Aji-Dahaka> I'm first-time installing and (unexpectedly) have few complaints
[10:05] <gamma> i have/had a few issues too
[10:05] <Aji-Dahaka> could use kssh in the default install, I guess
[10:05] <gamma> nvidia, w32codecs, mplayer, kmplayer and ndiswrapper were slightly less user friendly in installing
[10:06] <Aji-Dahaka> I've not finished an actual install (got the first one, but since I had crashed partway through (my fault) it wasn't quite right
[10:06] <Aji-Dahaka> )
[10:06] <gamma> so you're reinstalling?
[10:07] <Aji-Dahaka> just finished the main part of it
[10:07] <Aji-Dahaka> apt-setup was failing
[10:07] <gamma> oh
[10:07] <Aji-Dahaka> figured I just as well not sink time into figuring out how to fix it ..
[10:07] <gamma> well install is only 30 minutes tops anyway :P
[10:08] <Aji-Dahaka> lata, gamma
[10:08] <gamma-zzz> sleep for me.. tomm i get to figure out how to get a custom kernel working with swsusp2
[10:08] <gamma-zzz> Aji-Dahaka: good luck
[10:09] <Aji-Dahaka> ooh, how do I get kde to not lock screen on suspend
[10:17] <dbglt> yay
[10:17] <dbglt> I got my ati drivers working ^_^
[10:17] <dbglt> and is it just me... or is the transperancy of kicker 3.5 borked?
[10:17] <dbglt> it just doesn't seem to work very well
[10:36] <kobayazen> hello
[10:37] <vvatsa> hi
[10:50] <di> i cant run sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[10:50] <di> please help
[10:51] <nalioth> di: any errors?
[10:51] <di> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[10:51] <nalioth> !pastebin
[10:51] <ubotu> methinks pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:51] <kosh> di: are you running breezy?
[10:52] <di> yes
[10:53] <nalioth> di: use a pastebin and paste your /etc/apt/sources.list to it, please
[10:54] <di> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7561
[10:57] <di> nalioth: is anything missing?
[10:57] <nalioth> di: use this one http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7562
[10:58] <hatake_kakashi> lol pastebin doesn't do screenshots :p
[10:58] <hatake_kakashi> unless if its text :P
[10:58] <nalioth> hatake_kakashi: paste.ubuntulinux.nl does do screenies, in jpg and png
[10:58] <di> nalioth: thanks!
[10:59] <hatake_kakashi> nalioth: heh, I was thinking of the usual pastebin you find via google
[10:59] <nalioth> nah, our pastebin is better
[10:59] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[11:00] <di> E: Couldn't find package kubuntu-desktop
[11:00] <hatake_kakashi> any of you running xfs?
[11:00] <di> same error, oops
[11:01] <hatake_kakashi> di: apt-cache search desktop| grep kubuntu
[11:01] <di> kubuntu-default-settings - Default settings and artwork for the Kubuntu desktop
[11:02] <hatake_kakashi> I suppose you may need to enable universe in the sources.list .. however no guarentees
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> wait..
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> which version are you?
[11:03] <di> breezy
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> err release?
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> something isn't right
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> I can see kubuntu-desktop from my repo
[11:03] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[11:03] <di> what is your sources.list?
[11:04] <di> perhaps it is different
[11:05] <nalioth> hatake_kakashi: his sources.list is fully loaded
[11:05] <nalioth> di: did you apt-get update with the new list?
[11:05] <di> yes, but: W: GPG error
[11:05] <di> breezy-backports Release:
[11:06] <di> signatures were invalid
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> !gpg
[11:06] <ubotu> methinks gpg is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/GPGKey or http://www.linuxgazette.com/node/8746
[11:06] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[11:06] <di> mabye i should try without backports?
[11:07] <di> same result
[11:09] <kosh> I am running xfs
[11:10] <di> strange
[11:11] <di> trying http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu#How_to_add_extra_repositories
[11:12] <nalioth> di: you have all the repos you need
[11:12] <nalioth> there is something else wrong
[11:12] <di> kubuntu is down?
[11:12] <di> btw im on a fresh install
[11:13] <kosh> I have no idea what is wrong
[11:13] <kosh> try running sudo apt-get update
[11:13] <kosh> and then sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[11:14] <kosh> however with kde3.5 installed it won't be installable but that is ok :)
[11:14] <di> yes! ubuntuguide it worked!
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[11:14] <di> wait is 3.5 included?
[11:14] <kosh> it is in the source list that you pasted
[11:15] <di> will it install with kubuntu-desktop?
[11:15] <kosh> kubuntu-desktop is just a virtual package, it is not needed for anything
[11:15] <kosh> did you install from the kubuntu install cd?
[11:15] <di> no
[11:15] <di> so kubuntu-desktop installs kde 3.5 ?
[11:16] <kosh> no
[11:16] <kosh> kubuntu-desktop conflicts with kde 3.5 but you don't need it
[11:16] <kosh> try just doing sudo apt-get install kde
[11:17] <di>   kde: Depends: kdesdk but it is not going to be installed
[11:18] <di> great
[11:18] <kosh> that seems strange
[11:18] <kosh> okay just do sudo apt-get install arts kdelibs kdebase kdm
[11:19] <kosh> that is the most base level of kde just to see if it is working at all
[11:19] <di> never mind ill do kubuntu-desktop
[11:19] <di> is it possible to install 3.5 after i install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:21] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[11:21] <ubotu> kde3.5 is, like, http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[11:22] <di> so how do i install 3.5 after i install kubuntu-desktop?
[11:22] <aIk01> how can i change my nick
[11:23] <di> aIk01: do it within your software?
[11:23] <nalioth> aIk01: type /nick MY_NEW_NICK <enter>
[11:23] <di> i gtg
[11:23] <di> ill come 2ml...
[11:23] <di> bye
[11:55] <Delphinus> hello all
[11:55] <vvatsa> Delphinus: hello
[11:55] <Delphinus> is there a way to use dpkg or something to install a .deb file and get it to auto download and install the dependencies?
[11:56] <nalioth> Delphinus: unfortunately not automatically
[11:56] <nalioth> Delphinus: what do you want to install?
[11:56] <Delphinus> so i gotta manually go thru the errors and install the packages it needs?
[11:56] <Delphinus> jahshaka
[11:56] <Delphinus> www.jahshaka.org
[11:56] <nalioth> gimme a minute, please
[11:56] <Delphinus> like 10 missing dependencies
[11:56] <Delphinus> take your time :0
[11:56] <Delphinus> :)
[11:57] <nalioth> well, debian packages 'forced' onto ubuntu tend to break ubuntu
[11:58] <nalioth> Delphinus: it looks to me like there are no deb files for it at all
[11:58] <nalioth> Delphinus: i suggest you build it from source, and use 'checkinstall' instead of "make install"
[11:59] <vvatsa> nalioth: there is an ubuntu src for it
[11:59] <vvatsa> http://www.jahshaka.org/component/option,com_docman/task,cat_view/gid,27/Itemid,49/
[11:59] <nalioth> vvatsa: but no ubuntu binary?
[11:59] <vvatsa> sorry I ment bin.
[12:00] <Delphinus> guess i need to learn to compile source for stuff anyway :)
[12:00] <vvatsa> ubuntu deb for rc2.1
[12:00] <Delphinus> thats what i downloaded
[12:00] <nalioth> Delphinus: well, since they've not provided you a "real" way to use apt-get, you'll have to use dpkg on it and install each dependency as it errors out
[12:01] <Delphinus> ok sweet thankyou :)
[12:01] <Delphinus> should the package have been done better to fix this or?
[12:02] <nalioth> Delphinus: they should have provided a 'repository' of their own
[12:02] <nalioth> the package may or may not be sound.
[12:04] <vvatsa> Delphinus: they did not do a good job of making the packeage, if you can get the src. you might to do a better job
[12:04] <Delphinus> <-- n00b
[12:04] <vvatsa> Delphinus: me too, got to learn some time :)
[12:04] <Delphinus> true true
[12:05] <nalioth> i agree, building it is always better (if it's not an official pkg)
[12:05] <nalioth> !compile
[12:05] <ubotu> Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CompilingSoftware
[12:05] <Delphinus> but its getting past midnight and I gotta get up earlyish tomorrow... might have to leave it for tonight.. as much as i'd love to fix it all tonight... :)
[12:05] <Delphinus> but thanks for your help everyone, very useful!
[12:05] <vvatsa> Delphinus: which part of the world are you in?
[12:05] <Delphinus> New Zealand
[12:06] <vvatsa> 11am in Ireland
[12:06] <vvatsa> whare I am
[12:06] <Delphinus> currently holding the australian Linux Conference... thats what i'm off to tomorrow
[12:06] <vvatsa> Delphinus: enjoy
[12:06] <Delphinus> will do, have a good one everyone!
[12:06] <hatake_kakashi> Delphinus: wheres that at?
[12:06] <Delphinus> yeah its good
[12:06] <hatake_kakashi> where in Aust*
[12:07] <Delphinus> you can prob download the videos - we are recording everything
[12:07] <Delphinus> yeah dunedin is the one
[12:07] <Delphinus> its normally in australia, but they came over to NZ for a change
[12:07] <hatake_kakashi> Delphinus: where is this event held in Aust? QLD?
[12:07] <Delphinus> it is held in various places each  year
[12:07] <hatake_kakashi> hmm :?
[12:07] <hatake_kakashi> :/
[12:08] <Delphinus> this year is in New Zealand, which is NOT part of australia :P
[12:08] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[12:08] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: http://linux.org.au/conf/ (shows you where its been - and is)
[12:08] <Delphinus> thats the one
[12:08] <hatake_kakashi> ta
[12:09] <hatake_kakashi> ffs, I missed my one :
[12:09] <hatake_kakashi> :/
[12:13] <m0ns00n> Man!
[12:13] <m0ns00n> I give up
[12:13] <m0ns00n> KDE 3.5's text editors is a sad state
[12:14] <m0ns00n> http://www.sub-ether.org/environment.jpg
[12:14] <nalioth> m0ns00n: kate?
[12:15] <Delphinus> <3 kwrite
[12:15] <m0ns00n> Yes
[12:15] <m0ns00n> Kate just degraded out of proportion with the session management
[12:15] <m0ns00n> It's useless for >300 files
[12:15] <m0ns00n> 30 modules needing maintainment etc
[12:16] <m0ns00n> Quanta just crashes ad infinitum
[12:16] <m0ns00n> So I'm now back with kwrite and a konqueror file manager window
[12:16] <m0ns00n> ...
[12:16] <m0ns00n> :-(
[12:17] <Tm_T> Kate <3
[12:18] <Aji-Dahaka> how do I get kde to not lock screen on suspend?
[12:32] <dipnlik> m0ns00n: couldn't see the pic, but i too don't like kde editors
[12:32] <dipnlik> m0ns00n: waiting for a kde version of vim
[12:33] <hatake_kakashi> kvim?
[12:33] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi: does this exist? didn't find in the repos
[12:33] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: no no, I was wondering..
[12:34] <hatake_kakashi> but why would you want that when you can use gvim or even vim through konsole?
[12:35] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi: gvim is not qt. i use vim on console now, but a qt version would be great
[12:35] <hatake_kakashi> ahh
[12:35] <Aji-Dahaka> how do I get kde to not lock screen on suspend?
[12:35] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi: gtk on kde is *ugly* :P
[12:35] <Aji-Dahaka> tried gtk-qt-engine?
[12:36] <Aji-Dahaka> eases the pain a lot
[12:36] <dipnlik> Aji-Dahaka: no, will try it, thanks
[12:36] <hatake_kakashi> dipnlik: well, if the program was derived from console, its best to run it in console :P
[12:36] <nalioth> dipnlik: there is no kvim?
[12:36] <hatake_kakashi> Aji-Dahaka: I never put my screen on suspend, in fact I wanted to turn such function off as I think apm and acpi are both very annoying
[12:37] <Aji-Dahaka> I like my laptop to suspend when I close it and take it from class to class
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> hm
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> maybe have no password protect?
[12:39] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi: maybe :P
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> during screensaver?
[12:39] <Aji-Dahaka> oh, I'll try that
[12:40] <Aji-Dahaka> (hate to say it, but I kinda like that windows presents the option very directly and blatantly for this one)
[12:41] <Aji-Dahaka> huh, screensaver config ... right ...
[12:41] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, desktop
[12:41] <Aji-Dahaka> :p
[12:43] <Aji-Dahaka> ah, seemed to work
[12:45] <Aji-Dahaka> after the recent articles about lots of fonts and poor kde performance, I have to wonder why I have 178 fonts installed by default
[12:46] <kosh> well I have no had any problems with lots of fonts
[12:46] <kosh> so long as the font cache is correct there should be no issues
[12:46] <kosh> sudo fc-cache -vv  should do nothing
[12:46] <Aji-Dahaka> well, the kde devs seemed to think that it slowed it down substantially
[12:46] <Aji-Dahaka> (let me grep for the article again)
[12:47] <kosh> ok
[12:48] <Aji-Dahaka> they mention it here: http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Performance%20Tips#id247097
[12:48] <Aji-Dahaka> but let me keep looking
[12:48] <kosh> I think I have about 800 installed here :)
[12:49] <kalmana> cha
[12:49] <kalmana> blabal
[12:49] <Aji-Dahaka> looks like qt has put out an improved (performance-wise) version of fontconfig (the culprit)
[12:50] <kosh> the font problem mentioned there I thinik was fixed already
[12:50] <kosh> however mostly it says it uses a little more memory which is not a problem for me
[12:51] <DaVinnie> megbaszhatjtok
[12:51] <Aji-Dahaka> http://www.kdedevelopers.org/blog/280 ah, there he is
[12:51] <DaVinnie> he is here
[12:51] <kalmana> hi
[12:52] <kalmana> kubuntu
[12:52] <kalmana> veszed
[12:52] <kalmana> ksajd
[12:52] <kalmana> fa
[12:52] <kalmana> dfas
[12:52] <kalmana> f
[12:52] <kalmana> afs
[12:52] <DaVinnie> haliho
[12:52] <kalmana> fs
[12:52] <kalmana> fsd
[12:52] <kalmana> fs
[12:52] <kalmana> fsd
[12:52] <kalmana> fs
[12:52] <kalmana> fsd
[12:52] <DaVinnie> fuck nalioth
[12:52] <DaVinnie> fuck off
[12:52] <Aji-Dahaka> the memory has to get filled from somewhere
[12:55] <kosh> hmm it seems mostly it is a matter of startup time
[12:55] <kosh> which is not a very big deal for me
[12:56] <Riddell> thanks nalioth
[12:56] <nalioth> Riddell: we do what we can
[12:56] <kosh> nalioth: yeah good job
[12:56] <Snake__> Go nalioth!
[01:26] <Snifffurt> hello
[01:27] <Snifffurt> I'm wondering how I can stop the mic input to be linked through to the Line-Out and make it still available for recording to skype and Audacity?
[01:28] <Snifffurt> what switch might this be?
[01:33] <borut> witam!!!
[01:46] <orion_fr_24> need help with konserve backup over network via fish (ssh)
[01:50] <Alexander12> salve a tutti ;)
[01:50] <Alexander12> qualcuno sa quale comando bash usare per settare l'orologio di sistema?
[01:51] <Alexander12> ho provato hwclock -a
[01:51] <hawking> I have a ftp server running on my machine.. it's up right now and can accept connections but even when someone types the correct password and username it says 530 Login failed my proftpd.conf is here http://rafb.net/paste/results/fhtR0L27.html  can someone help me with that?
[01:52] <dark_suic> hawking, you are using proftpd?
[01:52] <dark_suic> well, i'm using it too, but it works for my users with standard config
[01:53] <hawking> yeah
[01:53] <hawking> dark_suic : can you paste your proftpd.conf file please
[01:53] <dark_suic> hang on a sec
[01:53] <hawking> okie
[01:53] <dark_suic> http://pastebin.com/520496
[01:54] <dark_suic> i think is this (just used a pastebin plug-in for x-chat a friend of mine created :)
[01:54] <dark_suic> well, i see it's a big mess, hang on a sec and i will post it better :P
[01:55] <hawking> pastebin plugin? wow that is a good idea :)
[01:56] <dark_suic> yep :)
[01:56] <dark_suic> what proftpd version are you using?
[01:57] <hawking> the one in breezy repos
[01:57] <dark_suic> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/520499
[01:58] <dark_suic> well, me too, you have changed some options, don't you??
[01:58] <dark_suic> well, going to eat something, back in 15 mins
[01:58] <hawking> I did
[01:58] <hawking> okie
[02:07] <feistel> hi
[02:07] <feistel> is a way of change uplash image without reconfigure linux-kernel package?
[02:07] <Mazingaro> hi
[02:07] <Mazingaro> please I've a problem with kubuntu
[02:07] <feistel> a kernel parameter or something like that
[02:07] <Mazingaro> what is the initial root password????
[02:08] <feistel> Mazingaro: sudo passwd
[02:08] <Mazingaro> I mean after installed it :)
[02:08] <Mazingaro> feistel: then?
[02:08] <feistel> and set a new password
[02:08] <Mazingaro> it told me: Sorry, try again
[02:09] <Mazingaro> ok done
[02:11] <dark_suic> hawking, i'm back, you got anything?
[02:11] <hawking> not really... trying some stuff
[02:11] <Riddell> test 3.5.1 for dapper!  deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde351-dapper-testing/ ./
[02:12] <Riddell> apokryphos: ^^
[02:12] <Tm_T> separate repository? or only now for testing?
[02:14] <Tm_T> whatever, upgrading ;)
[02:14] <dark_suic> hawking, i've seen... you have a mark: "Allow users and only ftpuser marked there... i supose you will have /etc/ftpuser created, but...
[02:14] <nalioth> Riddell: what happened to amu and his repo?
[02:14] <dark_suic> maybe that's what's limiting your logins...
[02:15] <Tm_T> whoooaaaaa, 286 packages :o
[02:15] <hawking> dark_suic : well I've change the proftpd.conf file with the default file in ubuntuforums
[02:15] <hawking> still same err
[02:15] <dark_suic> O__o
[02:15] <dark_suic> that sounds even more weird to me...
[02:15] <Tm_T> nalioth: I have lightweight KDE system, less than 300 KDE packages ;o
[02:15] <hawking> same here
[02:16] <dark_suic> i would try removing proftpd.conf and reinstalling proftpd...
[02:16] <nalioth> Tm_T: ok
[02:16] <dark_suic> (save some changes to a file)
[02:16] <dark_suic> and then i would be trying change by change to see what happens
[02:16] <Tm_T> nalioth: how's yours? ;)
[02:16] <Riddell> nalioth: the kubuntu.org server changed
[02:16] <dark_suic> maybe... hawking is your ftp port blocked by a firewall?
[02:16] <nalioth> Riddell: so they're still there, then? just have to look around?
[02:16] <dark_suic> hawking, try nmap localhost -p 21
[02:17] <Riddell> nalioth: no, they're on the old server which I don't have access to
[02:17] <nalioth> Riddell: hmmm
[02:18] <hawking> dark_suic : if port was blocked it wouldn't ask for password right?
[02:18] <Riddell> nalioth: deb http://kubuntu.org/~jriddell/tmp/kde35-powerpc/ ./
[02:18] <Riddell> completely untested debs
[02:19] <nalioth> Riddell: for powerpc?
[02:19] <Riddell> nalioth: yes, as suggested by the URL
[02:19] <dark_suic> yes, i supose, but i am thinking of all posibilities, hawking :)
[02:19] <nalioth> Riddell: sorry, i'm kinda tired atm
[02:20] <hawking> dark_suic : ftp port open
[02:20] <hawking> wide open
[02:20] <aeon17x> Whoa, you're the guy who uploaded the KDE 3.5 debs.
[02:20] <hawking> dark_suic : that's too weird really
[02:20] <Riddell> aeon17x: who is?
[02:20] <aeon17x> You, I think.
[02:21] <aeon17x> (At least it has your key on it or something.)
[02:21] <dark_suic> i suposed, but well...
[02:22] <dark_suic> i have anonymous access configured instead, hawking, and got it working correctly almost without knowing howto... :P
[02:22] <dark_suic> as i said, i would try to backup your proftpd.conf file, remove it and then reinstall proftpd
[02:22] <hawking> dark_suic : that looks like a reasonable way
[02:23] <hawking> I'll try
[02:24] <dark_suic> well, if the original proftpd.conf file doesn't work it will sound WAY TOO weird :P
[02:24] <tomplast> is there any channel dedicated for dapper drake?
[02:24] <hawking> hehe
[02:25] <tomplast> hawking?
[02:25] <nalioth> tomplast: you are here
[02:25] <tomplast> oki
[02:25] <tomplast> good
[02:26] <tomplast> i have found a lot of bugs
[02:26] <tomplast> like the cups server
[02:26] <hawking> tomplast : yes?
[02:26] <tomplast> i cant get a connection with it or something
[02:26] <tomplast> so i cant add my printer :/
[02:26] <tomplast> it worked perfectly in breezy
[02:26] <tomplast> and also klauncher crashes on logout
[02:26] <tomplast> and it complains the same time about kicker or something
[02:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell tomplast about malone
[02:27] <nalioth> tomplast: visit the URL ubotu sent you and search and/or file away
[02:27] <tomplast> bugzilla.ubuntu.org
[02:27] <tomplast> or something like that
[02:27] <tomplast> i know of that
[02:27] <tomplast> but i wanted to know if you know how to bypass
[02:27] <tomplast> or correct the bugs
[02:28] <tomplast> by hand
[02:28] <tomplast> via config files or something maybe
[02:28] <nalioth> tomplast: ubotu told you the URL for dapper
[02:28] <nalioth> tomplast: and since dapper is in developement, whatever you fix on your own will probably break with the next set of updates
[02:29] <tomplast> :/
[02:29] <tomplast> is it possible to downgrade dapper to breezy?
[02:29] <nalioth> tomplast: nope.
[02:29] <tomplast> really?
[02:29] <nalioth> tomplast: this is why we all have said not to run it as your production box
[02:29] <tomplast> cant i just change the repositories and downgrade the packages?
[02:29] <tomplast> aha
[02:29] <tomplast> yeah i know
[02:30] <tomplast> but i really wanted the webcam feature working :/
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> there is another option.. you do it manually and painfully.. it may work, it may not work
[02:30] <nalioth> tomplast: no you cannot change the repos. (you can, but you won't get anywhere)
[02:30] <nalioth> hatake_kakashi: the best way is to completely reinstall
[02:30] <tomplast> and do you know anything about why i cant use my Pinnacle PCTV Stereo card?
[02:30] <hatake_kakashi> nalioth: true
[02:30] <tomplast> it worked in mandriva
[02:32] <tomplast> kdetv detecs the card but its unable to find any channels
[02:32] <tomplast> i have tried with xawtv also
[02:32] <chx> nalioth: hi
[02:32] <tomplast> but it didnt help
[02:32] <nalioth> chx: howdy
[02:33] <chx> nalioth: fine .
[02:34] <nalioth> does kde 3.5 use different settings from previous versions? i just fired up konq an got a blank screen rather than my usual start point
[02:36] <nalioth> Riddell: is malone the bug tracker for 3.5 ?
[02:36] <chx> wow kubuntu even has an offtopic channel, great
[02:37] <Riddell> nalioth: malone is the bug tracker for kubuntu.  bugs.kde.org is the kde beastie tracker
[02:37] <Riddell> chx: that was my homepage you found the other day
[02:37] <nalioth> Riddell: well idk what is happening but the total result is "nothing"
[02:37] <Riddell> idk?
[02:38] <nalioth> idk = i don't know
[02:40] <aeon17x> Hmm, I don't really understand what Katapult does. >_>
[02:40] <Riddell> nalioth: happening with respect to what?
[02:40] <nalioth> is there one package i can remove to get rid of kubuntu-desktop ?
[02:41] <hawking> dark_suic : when I do ftp://localhost I can connect but when I do ftp://ip I can't... I have tried setting the MasqueradeAddress and AllowForeignAddress on but still doesn't work
[02:41] <Riddell> aeon17x: launches progreams and stuff
[02:41] <Riddell> aeon17x: I do indeed make the KDE packages for kubuntu
[02:41] <Riddell> nalioth: qt
[02:41] <nalioth> Riddell: in the 3.5 konq, it doeant read my kderc for it, it opens to a blank screen. i click the 'home' button and it says "malformed URL" so i go to the address bar to put an address in and the first / gets me "unknown mimetype"
[02:42] <nalioth> Riddell: i tried to go visit yahoo.com and it crashed
[02:42] <_stamen> could anybody help me to turn on the AGP support for my ATI video card
[02:42] <_stamen> and to make it work true TV-out
[02:43] <nalioth> Riddell: o
[02:44] <nalioth> Riddell: i'm markin to remove libqt and qt but it's not marking kde at all
[02:44] <nalioth> i'm still using hoarys kde (sad to say)
[02:44] <chx> Riddell: besides making the KDE packages, you are the lead developer of Kubuntu , aren't you? :)
[02:45] <Riddell> chx: I suppose you could say that yes
[02:46] <slow-motion> hallo
[02:46] <nalioth> chx: Riddell is THE man
[02:49] <hlds> Using the networking configuration tool in settings:/ it doesnt accept my root password, where is the file to manually edit network settings, I cant remember :/
[02:54] <dark_suic> hawking, sorry for not answering sooner, i just can't imagine what's happening there....
[02:54] <dark_suic> if localhost works putting your ip should work too
[02:55] <hawking> I guess I found someone who understands ... talking to him
[02:55] <dark_suic> as you've seen, i don't have anything there and can get there from other places....
[02:55] <dark_suic> ok
[02:55] <orion_fr_24> I m looking for a GUI way to format HD on kubuntu breezy any idea ?
[02:56] <dark_suic> orion_fr_24, a gui for parted should work (i use gparted.... waiting maybe for a kparted??? ;))
[02:57] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: qtparted
[02:57] <nalioth> dark_suic: ^^^^
[02:57] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: qt is better than g ?
[02:58] <nalioth> qt is what kde is made of
[02:58] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: hoo ok
[02:58] <nalioth> to install gparted brings in lots of gnome-libs
[02:58] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: what does qt stand for ?
[02:58] <nalioth> beats me, orion_fr_24
[02:59] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: what do you mean ? sorry I m french
[03:00] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: i do not know what "qt" stands for
[03:00] <dark_suic> nalioth, i tried qtparted last time i installed kubuntu (not this time), but it didn't even open...
[03:00] <dark_suic> that's why i said a gui for parted and not use gparted ;)
[03:00] <squid0> orion_fr_24:  look up qtparted on google.
[03:00] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: ok
[03:00] <orion_fr_24> squid0: thx
[03:01] <squid0> i think they have a site that says what it's all about tec
[03:01] <squid0> tec=etc
[03:01] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: qtparted is in your adept or apt-get repo
[03:01] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: cant delete FAT32 partition on USB port ????
[03:01] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: qtparted does not allow me
[03:01] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: USB is hit or miss
[03:01] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: ???
[03:02] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: different USB chips act differently.
[03:02] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: ok
[03:03] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: so why cant I change partition
[03:03] <orion_fr_24> ?
[03:03] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: I can see it but evrything is greyd out
[03:04] <orion_fr_24> do I need to unmount the partition before ?
[03:04] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: some USB chipsets do not behave like a hard drive is supposed to.
[03:04] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: so there s nothin I can do ?
[03:05] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: not that i'm aware of
[03:07] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: I tried to umount and now it works
[03:07] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: thx
[03:08] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: good to hear
[03:08] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: Is Fat32 well supported or do you really advise me ext2 ?
[03:09] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: fat32 is supported fine. it has been supported for years
[03:09] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: partition will be over 230 Go
[03:09] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: no pb for such a size ?
[03:09] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: i suggest you make smaller partitions
[03:09] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: what max daya suggest ?
[03:10] <nalioth> what are you gonna be having on the USB stick?
[03:11] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: back up disk + multimedia library
[03:11] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: will be accesed via SSH (fish) and FTP
[03:11] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: is it ever gonna be used on a windows box?
[03:11] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: from times to time but quite rarely
[03:12] <nalioth> if you can honestly answer "never" i'd say use ext2 or ext3
[03:12] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: no I cant say never
[03:17] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: what is the best ext2 or ext3 ?
[03:17] <uft> oi
[03:17] <uft> oi
[03:17] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: any idea of the difference ?
[03:17] <nalioth> ext3
[03:17] <nalioth> ext3 is ext2 with journaling
[03:17] <orion_fr_24> ohh ok
[03:17] <uft> ok
[03:18] <hatake_kakashi> saves you from having constant fsck at boot :)
[03:18] <aeon17x> I can't see what's written on the icons on my desktop.... the font is black, and the background is also black.
[03:19] <orion_fr_24> any maximum size for ext3 ?
[03:20] <seashell11> orion_fr_24: look at this
[03:20] <seashell11> !ext3
[03:20] <ubotu> somebody said ext3 was a filesystem that Linux can be installed on and can be read/wrote from Windows via http://www.fs-driver.org
[03:20] <seashell11> if you want to read/write from windows?
[03:21] <orion_fr_24> ok cool
[03:22] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: no you may make it the entire capacity of your USB stick
[03:23] <seashell11> orion_fr_24: just an idea, but maybe you could make a small fat32 partition and save the driver (r whatever it is that windows needs to read/write to ext3) to that small fat32 partition so that you always have it with you
[03:23] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: i dont think ext3 will run well on a 257TB hard drive, so keep that in mind
[03:25] <hatake_kakashi> nalioth: hence the need for partitioning :D
[03:25] <orion_fr_24> seashell11: what daya mean by save the driver
[03:27] <dark_suic> the driver that nalioth told you about before for windows being able to read ext3 partitions
[03:28] <seashell11> rather that ubotu told you about
[03:28] <dark_suic> yap, sorry :P
[03:28] <seashell11> http://www.fs-driver.org/download.html
[03:28] <dark_suic> i had a mess with names :)
[03:28] <seashell11> download the file that is on that page
[03:29] <seashell11> orion_fr_24: make sense now?
[03:29] <aeon17x> !java
[03:29] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[03:30] <squid0> !javadebs
[03:35] <dipnlik> hi all. i cannot enter the GTK styles and fonts option in settings:/ , how can i fix this?
[03:35] <dipnlik> when i click it, it takes a long time and then nothing
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> dark_suic: do you happen to know if the gcc 3.4.5 is in the repos? I did a apt-cache search and I did not find it
[03:38] <dark_suic> O__o
[03:38] <dark_suic> it should, i think
[03:38] <hatake_kakashi> well.. I could only see gcc-3.4
[03:38] <apokryphos> hatake_kakashi: it's not
[03:38] <dark_suic> it seems that 3.4 is 3.4.4-6.... not 3.4.5, sorry :(
[03:39] <hatake_kakashi> apokryphos: bah, I thought so, looks like I'll have to get the .config script for the kernel.. I will also need to get kernel 2.6.12 as well :/ going to build it with the latest gcc.. because nvidia installers are a b*tch :/
[03:40] <apokryphos> they are annoying at times, yes 8)
[03:40] <apokryphos> still, better than ATI :D
[03:40] <hatake_kakashi> apokryphos: well.. this one is a big pain for me :/
[03:41] <hatake_kakashi> running on i686 version of kernel build just doesn't help with the nvidia installer who does nothing more than nag
[03:42] <hatake_kakashi> looks like I need to find the .config script for the standard ubuntu.. is there a possibility to make that ubuntu kernel to look only for the latest and not the 3.4 gcc?
[03:42] <apokryphos> hatake_kakashi: I'd just symlink /usr/bin/gcc to point to it
[03:43] <hatake_kakashi> ta
[03:43] <C2ODe> hi to all
[03:43] <apokryphos> aloha
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> apokryphos: err.. which file? symlink to?
[03:46] <hatake_kakashi> from /usr/bin/gcc to?
[03:47] <apokryphos> hatake_kakashi: whatever other version of gcc you want to use, if it's not 3.4
[03:47] <C2ODe> i have a vanilla kernel (2.6.15-1) with ubuntu i have succesfully (thanks to all #kubuntu!!!) re-activated uspash with the new kernel; now how can i change the image ? ;)
[03:47] <hatake_kakashi> apokryphos: ok
[03:48] <apokryphos> C2ODe: /msg ubotu usplash
[03:49] <C2ODe> apokryphos: i think that this guide is only for official kubuntu kernel version
[03:50] <apokryphos> not really; I think it only presumes you use the same basic usplash packages
[03:50] <C2ODe> apokryphos: point 5) of the wiki page is the proof... :(
[03:51] <apokryphos> C2ODe: dpkg-reconfigure just provides a wizard for it; if you know how to regenerate the initramfs then you're fine, I guess
[03:52] <nalioth> hatake_kakashi: in a konsole, type "file /usr/bin/gcc"
[03:52] <C2ODe> apokryphos: and if i don't know... :P ? i'm starting documenting on initramfs
[03:53] <apokryphos> then I presume you'd either have to find out, or you wouldn't be able to do it =)
[03:54] <fit4lfe> does anyone know the repository for mdf2iso
[03:54] <fit4lfe> also where can I get a detailed list of all the repositories for ubuntu
[03:54] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: packages.ubuntu.com
[03:54] <fit4lfe> thx
[03:55] <nalioth> fit4lfe: there is no mdf2iso package
[03:55] <nalioth> fit4lfe: you'll need to compile it yourself from the source code found here http://mdf2iso.berlios.de/
[03:56] <zerodni> hey does anyone know if kubuntu is  omiting the update to firefox 1.5 or are they just still in the testing phase and going to relase it later
[03:56] <zerodni> thanks
[03:56] <nalioth> zerodni: dapper releases in april
[03:57] <zerodni> nalioth, so they are going to relase it with dapper
[03:57] <zerodni> cool
[03:57] <zerodni> thanks for the info
[03:58] <fit4lfe> everytime I do a search for mdf2iso it says its in the universe
[03:59] <fit4lfe> hmm wierd
[04:00] <guest> is this group willed with extremely knowledgable people?
[04:00] <fit4lfe> what kind of question is that
[04:00] <nalioth> fit4lfe: dapper universe maybe?
[04:00] <guest> it's a serious question not a sarcastic remark
[04:00] <nalioth> guest: just ask your question
[04:00] <fit4lfe> damn which seems to be better dapper or breezy
[04:00] <fit4lfe> and why
[04:01] <ccc_> fit4lfe: dapper will be better in april when it's released :)
[04:01] <nalioth> fit4lfe: dapper is broken right now
[04:01] <fit4lfe> alright can you have dapper and breezy at the same time or no
[04:02] <nalioth> fit4lfe: sure thing, just make 2 partitions and dual boot
[04:02] <fit4lfe> I mean with it the same partiton
[04:02] <fit4lfe> like a 32 dchroot
[04:02] <nalioth> fit4lfe: if you use dapper as your main (or only) OS, you're heading for trouble
[04:02] <guest> I installed KMyFirewall with aptitude to help some german guy, later on I removed it with apt-get remove and now I cannot log in anymore with my 'root' account
[04:02] <fit4lfe> hmm
[04:03] <nalioth> guest: there is no root account in kubuntu (by default and design)
[04:03] <guest> well I mean, my main account
[04:03] <nalioth> well, that's not good
[04:03] <nalioth> what errors are you getting, guest ?
[04:04] <guest> it said something about "your system ran less than 10 seconds"
[04:04] <guest> and then I could log in with my other account
[04:04] <nalioth> ubotu: tell guest about xhangs
[04:05] <nalioth> guest: if you dont understand what ubotu just told you, please ask
[04:05] <guest> ok thx I'll try it now
[04:08] <fit4lfe> can anyone tell me why when I enter my root pass in kpackage it doesn;'t work ?
[04:09] <fit4lfe> works just fine in synaptic though ?
[04:09] <apokryphos> that's a bug in KPackage
[04:09] <apokryphos> it hasn't been patched to use kdesu (or the sudo model), so it actually looks for the actual root pass
[04:09] <apokryphos> you can set one, if you like, and then it'd work fine.
[04:10] <fit4lfe> how can I set one
[04:10] <apokryphos> (a temporary workaround, that is; ideally kpackage pack should be fixed)
[04:10] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: sudo passwd
[04:10] <fit4lfe> for kpackage ?
[04:10] <apokryphos> no, you don't set a root pass for kpackage. You set a general root pass, and that's the one kpackage looks for.
[04:11] <fit4lfe> hmm
[04:11] <fit4lfe> ok
[04:15] <nalioth> fit4lfe: there is no active root account
[04:18] <fit4lfe> yeah I keep forgetting
[04:19] <fit4lfe> with ubuntu
[04:19] <fit4lfe> does anyone have any trouble with superkaramba not working
[04:19] <fit4lfe> meaning can't see the themes
[04:20] <apokryphos> nope
[04:20] <apokryphos> I'm running 0.37 though -- I'd recommend you run it, too
[04:20] <apokryphos> things like Liquid Weather (and other popular ones) won't work with the current breezy version
[04:21] <fit4lfe> nice
[04:21] <fit4lfe> updated to new 3,5
[04:21] <fit4lfe> and super doesnt work
[04:21] <fit4lfe> you said verison 0.37
[04:21] <apokryphos> that's correct, beta
[04:22] <apokryphos> oh no, I see official is out now. Nice.
[04:23] <Mazingaro> hi
[04:23] <Mazingaro> please I've got a problem with kdesu
[04:23] <fit4lfe> can I just reinstall off of syaptic and I should get the new one right
[04:23] <Mazingaro> I've got this error: Conversation with su failed
[04:24] <Finite9> hi! I just installed Breezy on a laptop with ATI X700 and it works ok, but desktop redrawing is quite slow and OpenGL screensavers are nearly not moving..is this because the X.org driver is a bad performer?  Will I fix this by installing the ATI driver?
[04:24] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: nope, it's not in the repos
[04:24] <fit4lfe> k
[04:24] <apokryphos> Mazingaro: did you compile KDE or something?
[04:24] <Mazingaro> apokryphos: fresh install
[04:24] <apokryphos> Mazingaro: erm, so you're using official Kubuntu packages? What Kubuntu version you running? Breezy?
[04:25] <Mazingaro> yes
[04:25] <apokryphos> very curious
[04:26] <apokryphos> Mazingaro: anyhow, you should enable the breezy-updates repo and sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[04:26] <apokryphos> (there have been fixes to kdesu involving a now-working "Administrator Mode" for kcontrol/systemsettings)
[04:28] <Mazingaro> ok thanks
[04:30] <fit4lfe> has anyone used mdf2iso ?
[04:30] <apokryphos> ouch, /me forgot that superkaramba is now in kdeutils since 3.5!
[04:30] <fit4lfe> trouble making an iso
[04:30] <fit4lfe> yeah still doesn't work
[04:31] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: superkaramba --version|grep up  ?
[04:32] <fit4lfe> I just removed it
[04:32] <fit4lfe> lol
[04:32] <dell500> how do i view the pictures on my digi cam?
[04:32] <apokryphos> fit4lfe: what themes did you try?
[04:32] <fit4lfe> supermonitor
[04:32] <apokryphos> dell500: depends a lot on your cam, but digiKam is very  helpful a lot of the time.
[04:32] <dell500> loads the "drivers" in the digi cam folder of the settings, but i'm not sure how to extract them
[04:32] <fit4lfe> and liquid weather apps
[04:32] <apokryphos> liquid  weather isfine here
[04:32] <dell500> apokryphos, prolly gotta install it from apt?
[04:32] <apokryphos> yup
[04:33] <apokryphos> it's in universe
[04:33] <dell500> kool thnaks
[04:35] <fit4lfe> grr who uses mdf2iso
[04:39] <Finite9> no takers on my ATI driver question?
[04:42] <nalioth> fit4lfe: if you have patience, i'll build it and put it in my personal repo
[04:42] <monad> hi... can someone tell me where i can find all the init scripts? is there a command line tool like rc-update?
[04:43] <fit4lfe> build what neo? \
[05:02] <C2ODe> anyone knows a tutorial to create the acutal kernel-image in a deb file?
[05:10] <Sean> Can Someone help me I'm having trouble installing onto athlonXP-64
[05:12] <Sean> Can you help me I'm having problems installing amd64
[05:22] <nalioth> Sean: if you ask a question with some info in it, it'd be easier to answer you
[05:23] <Sean> Ok well
[05:23] <Sean> Srry
[05:23] <Sean> about 1/2 way through the "Install the base system" I get a meny that says "select the kernel" with 3 options
[05:24] <Sean> no matter witch option I choose imediately afterwards the install craps out
[05:24] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Sean about verify
[05:30] <C-O-L-T> help me. I have installed lime wire basic and java too. I can see people, I can connect to a server, but I can not download anything
[05:32] <wimpies> Guys, I have this wireless.log file in my home dir generated by libkwireless.so from kicker.  How can I disable this logging ?
[05:41] <feistel> hi
[05:41] <feistel> why I can found the trash icon in the desktop?
[05:41] <feistel> the .desktop file exists in Desktop/
[05:41] <feistel> but the trash icon is missing
[05:43] <feistel> Hidden=true :-)
[05:44] <feistel> how I can show kmix icon in the tray without open the mixer window?
[05:47] <bushito> install kmix?
[05:50] <feistel> bushito: I just have kmix installed
[05:50] <feistel> I need the speaker icon in the tray
[05:51] <bushito> then just run kmix
[05:51] <feistel> no
[05:51] <bushito> ???
[05:51] <feistel> because kmix open the mixer window
[05:51] <bushito> the tray icon should be on desktop
[05:51] <feistel> I don't wish the mixer window
[05:51] <bushito> when you install
[05:51] <feistel> is not
[05:52] <feistel> I need autorun kmix when the user login, but without show the mixer window
[05:52] <capotej> any idea which package provides liblua.so
[05:52] <bushito> then i dont know what to do in your case
[05:52] <bushito> xP
[05:52] <feistel> some parameter
[05:53] <feistel> capotej: find in the debian.org web page
[05:53] <capotej> http://search.debian.org/?q=liblua.so
[05:59] <trappist> apt-file search is your friend (once you install apt-file and do sudo apt-file update)
[05:59] <capotej> i found it
[06:00] <capotej> i have to install liblualib50
[06:00] <capotej> ive installed it
[06:00] <capotej> but my binary still doesnt see the liblua.so fle
[06:00] <trappist> capotej: sudo ldconfig
[06:00] <capotej> tried that
[06:00] <trappist> where is liblua.so?
[06:01] <capotej> no idea, i searched all of / for it
[06:01] <capotej> but the packages are installed
[06:01] <trappist> dpkg -L liblualib50
[06:02] <bushito> try running aptitude on console
[06:02] <bushito> to check what package are broken
[06:02] <bushito> and if it can get the packages
[06:02] <bushito> if it cannot get em it will return to default packages and fix the broken ones
[06:02] <capotej> trappist: its known as liblualib50.so.5.0
[06:02] <capotej> can i just symlink that to liblua.so
[06:03] <trappist> capotej: should work
[06:03] <capotej> ok
[06:05] <cplusplus> hi
[06:05] <bushito> hey i got a hdd with a ntfs partition that i would like to format and pass it to ext3 how can i do this?
[06:05] <capotej> it worked
[06:05] <cplusplus> can someone help me with samba?
[06:05] <jpatrick> cplusplus: cout << "Hello" << endl;
[06:06] <jpatrick> ;)
[06:06] <cplusplus> i vhttp://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0DmQMd88.html
[06:06] <cplusplus> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/0DmQMd88.html
[06:06] <cplusplus> i want that a user get the permission to write...
[06:07] <cplusplus> at my download share
[06:07] <DHGE> bushito: man cfdisk and mkfs
[06:09] <nalioth> jpatrick: can we limit the info in here, please?
[06:09] <jpatrick> nalioth: sorry, wrong channel
[06:09] <capotej> funny, i have a the -dev of a package but not the actual package
[06:10] <capotej> looking for libavformat
[06:16] <Trollinator> hallo, kann mir jemand mit meinem WLAN helfen?
[06:17] <nalioth> !de
[06:17] <ubotu> Deutschsprachige Hilfe fuer Probleme mit Ubuntu und Kubuntu finden Sie in den Kanaelen #ubuntu-de resp. #kubuntu-de
[06:21] <Trollinator> kann mir jemand helfen, mein WLAN einzurichten?
[06:21] <Trollinator> ich mchte mein Notebook per Ad-Hoc-WLAN mit dem Festnetzrechner verbinden
[06:22] <larsivi> !tell Trollinator about de
[06:22] <Trollinator> sorry...
[06:35] <larsivi> Trollinator: no need to be :)
[06:46] <_angel> hi
[06:48] <_angel> hi
[06:49] <larsivi> hi _angel
[06:49] <_angel> I'm working with a kubunto distro :)
[06:49] <_angel> (now dist-upgrading)
[06:50] <bushito> anyone knows how can i configure my ATI card?
[06:50] <bushito> =)
[06:50] <larsivi> not me
[06:50] <_angel> wich ati cards?
[06:50] <_angel> which ati cards?
[06:50] <bushito> ..
[06:50] <bushito> Ati radeon 9200 SE
[06:51] <_angel> is it X11 working???
[06:52] <bushito> yeah....
[06:52] <_angel> then?
[06:52] <bushito> well i mean activating the glx
[06:52] <bushito> the 3d accelerator
[06:52] <_angel> ah ok
[06:52] <bushito> so i can play games =)
[06:52] <_angel> what about glxinfo command???
[06:53] <_angel> $ glxinfo | grep direct
[06:53] <bushito> direct rendering: Yes
[06:53] <_angel> so direct rendering is enabled
[06:54] <_angel> let's take a look to xorg.conf
[06:54] <bushito> (o.o) i am just a noobie... dont blame me if i am a little stupid =)
[06:54] <_angel> don't worry
[06:54] <_angel> let's take a look to xorg.conf
[06:55] <_angel> $ less /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:55] <_angel> look at the section named "DRI"
[06:56] <bushito> Section "DRI"Mode    0666
[06:58] <bushito> (o.o)?? elou???
[06:58] <_angel> ok
[06:59] <mth`MAW> hi
[06:59] <pulver> howcome gtk2 apps (that looks ok running in failsafe mode) get a different color when run from within kde (funny thing is my kde color scheme doesn't use this color) im confused.. anyone know how to fix this?
[06:59] <slow-motion> re
[07:00] <_angel> then take a look to the section named  "Device"
[07:00] <_angel> bush: then take a look to the section named  "Device"
[07:00] <_angel> bushito: then take a look to the section named  "Device"
[07:00] <_angel> and tell me what is there
[07:01] <bushito> ok
[07:01] <bushito> Section "Device" Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)"
[07:01] <bushito>         Driver          "ati"
[07:01] <bushito>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[07:03] <nalioth> !pastebin
[07:03] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[07:04] <orion_fr_24> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjOgH2xrfzw
[07:05] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: i believe you meant to paste that into #kubuntu-offtopic
[07:10] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: sorry
[07:11] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: I did yes
[07:11] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: ok, this channel is for help and support of kubuntu, not general chat stuff
[07:11] <_angel> hi
[07:11] <bushito> Y_Y meanie
[07:11] <abionnnn> olleh
[07:12] <orion_fr_24> nalioth: I know I m sorry it was a mistake
[07:12] <_angel> please how can I enable the home icons and others on the desktop???
[07:12] <_angel> bushito: sorry
[07:12] <_angel> bushito: then
[07:12] <_angel> bushito: did you resolve the problem?
[07:12] <bushito> (o_o) i dont know
[07:12] <bushito> i posted the device thing
[07:12] <bushito> and you left =/
[07:13] <_angel> ok
[07:13] <_angel> tell me again
[07:13] <_angel> please how can I enable the home icons and others on the desktop???
[07:13] <nalioth> orion_fr_24: it's ok, i was just explaining.
[07:13] <bushito> Section "Device"
[07:13] <bushito>         Identifier      "ATI Technologies, Inc. Radeon 9200 SE (RV280)"
[07:13] <bushito>         Driver          "ati"
[07:13] <bushito>         BusID           "PCI:1:0:0"
[07:13] <bushito> EndSection
[07:13] <_angel> ok
[07:13] <bushito> ..... opps >-<
[07:13] <_angel> change "ati" with "radeon"
[07:13] <bushito> my bad sorry
[07:14] <_angel> then you've to try
[07:14] <_angel> if X11 won't restart you'll have to rewrite "ati" to it's original position :)
[07:14] <bushito> .........
[07:14] <bushito> eehh whats this file name again??
[07:14] <_angel> you have to restart X after every changes
[07:14] <_angel> please how can I enable the home icons and others on the desktop???
[07:15] <nalioth> bushito: please quit pasting in here
[07:15] <bushito> =p said i was sorry
[07:16] <bushito> was trying to messag e_angel
[07:16] <bushito> xP but it posted right away i clicked
[07:17] <bushito> _angel: i cannot acces to that file....
[07:17] <bushito> _angel: and kate keeps crashing up
[07:18] <_angel> yes
[07:18] <_angel> bushito: you've to do it by "root" user
[07:18] <bushito> sudo kate /etc/x11/xorg.conf
[07:18] <bushito> Error: "/var/tmp/kdecache-bushito" is owned by uid 1000 instead of uid
[07:18] <bushito> kate: ERROR: Communication problem with kate, it probably crashed
[07:18] <bushito> Link points to "/var/tmp/kdecache-root"
[07:19] <_angel> kill all kate instances
[07:19] <_angel> and use vi from console
[07:21] <bushito> Unknown id: vi
[07:21] <bushito> Unknown id: vim
[07:21] <_angel> apt-get install vi
[07:21] <_angel> as root
[07:22] <_angel> hass anyone
[07:22] <bushito> Unknown id: apt-get (o_o)
[07:22] <_angel> has anyone got firefox on kubuntu???
[07:22] <kBCC> I do
[07:22] <_angel> uh??
[07:22] <_angel> kBCC: how???
[07:22] <_angel> bushito: close that shell and open a new
[07:22] <_angel> one
[07:23] <kBCC> apt-get install firefox?
[07:23] <bushito> xD
[07:23] <bushito> eeh i get same error message (o_o9
[07:24] <_angel> kBCC: package is not available
[07:24] <_angel> bushito
[07:24] <_angel> su -
[07:24] <_angel> from prompt
[07:24] <_angel> the root password
[07:25] <bushito> eehh it says authentification failed
[07:25] <pulver> is firefox 1.5 in the repos somewhere?
[07:25] <_angel> bushito: sudo passwd
[07:26] <_angel> ok?
[07:26] <bushito> every command i start with su it says unknow command
[07:26] <_angel> then give your user password, not root one
[07:26] <_angel> what about su?
[07:27] <bushito> -.- kubuntu doesnt got a root not even a root password =P
[07:27] <nalioth> _angel: dont do that
[07:27] <dark_suic> pulver: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28FirefoxNew%29
[07:27] <kBCC> _angel> What have you got in your sources.list ?
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell bushito about root
[07:27] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _angel about root
[07:27] <nalioth> the root account is disabled by default in kubuntu
[07:27] <nalioth> enabling it will break functionality
[07:27] <_angel> kBCC: original kubuntu sites
[07:28] <kBCC> _angel > I first installed ubuntu and it had firefox in it.. then upgraded to kubuntu
[07:28] <lumemees> somehow i had root in my machine
[07:28] <lumemees> but i didnt have eny users
[07:28] <dark_suic> pulver, btw, i think it IS in dapper repos
[07:28] <_angel> nalioth: infact I'm trying him to enable it
[07:28] <_angel> nalioth: sudo passwd
[07:28] <nalioth> _angel: no please do not
[07:28] <nalioth> no  no no no
[07:28] <nalioth> bushito: use "sudo" in console and
[07:28] <nalioth> !kdesu
[07:28] <ubotu> kdesu is, like, totally, :Use kdesu to run applications with root priveleges, when you  have to. Do *not* do sudo {GUIAPP}; you can muck up your permissions and the config files.   If it is not working, you may need to run "sudo adept-updater "
[07:29] <pulver> dark_suic: thanks for the link :)
[07:29] <_angel> nalioth: uhm why=
[07:29] <_angel> nalioth: uhm why?
[07:29] <nalioth> _angel: bushito: this is kubuntu, not debian or redhat. it is designed NOT to have an active root account
[07:29] <kBCC> _angel > That should work.. gonna eat now .. be back in 15 :)
[07:29] <pulver> dark_suic: ok
[07:29] <nalioth> _angel: bushito: if you read the URL ubotu sent you it will explain
[07:29] <bushito> i know why i dont got root
[07:29] <bushito> but i have alwayss used SU
[07:29] <bushito> xP
[07:30] <nalioth> bushito: use an extra 'do' now
[07:30] <bushito> =p lol
[07:30] <bushito> to long xD
[07:30] <kBCC> nalioth > Yeah, but not everybody agrees with that vision :) But I could indeed be nice to new users..
[07:30] <lumemees> can anyone help me with bootloader
[07:30] <Florian-T> hi all
[07:30] <lumemees> i HAD windows previously
[07:30] <lumemees> and it should be there
[07:30] <bushito> _angel: yes and??
[07:31] <nalioth> kBCC: _angel: if y'all are gonna give advice in #kubuntu, please make it kubuntu sanctioned advice. enabling a root account WILL break parts of the system
[07:31] <Florian-T> I'm having a little problem with the sveas repos. how can i add the gpg-key???
[07:31] <_angel> bushito: edit xorg.conf how I told you
[07:31] <_angel> nalioth: which repositories shall I use to install firefox???
[07:32] <nalioth> firefox is in the default repos
[07:32] <_angel> no...
[07:32] <nalioth> ubotu: tell Florian-T about seveas
[07:32] <bushito> _angel: activate multiverse
[07:32] <_angel> bush: ????
[07:32] <chakie> hi folks!
[07:32] <_angel> bushito: ????
[07:32] <bushito> ehh start katapult type adept
[07:33] <nalioth> _angel: enable universe and multiverse and you'll have all the repos
[07:33] <nalioth> ubotu: tell _angel about repos
[07:33] <bushito> _angel: inside adept go to adept meny and manage repos
[07:33] <_angel> nalioth: ah ok... infact these are commented out
[07:33] <bushito> menu*
[07:33] <nalioth> _angel: you'll actually have to write 'multiverse'
[07:33] <bushito> _angel: next universe =P
[07:34] <chakie> anyone managed to get 1920x1200 with dvi and the kubuntu nvidia driver package?
[07:34] <_angel> nalioth: even backports?
[07:34] <bushito> _angel: NO!!!
[07:34] <Florian-T> nalioth, thank you very much
[07:35] <bushito> _angel: backports are forbidden they crash your system
[07:35] <nalioth> _angel: find and replace 'universe' with 'universe multiverse'
[07:35] <_angel> nalioth: ok I've got universe not commented...
[07:35] <nalioth> _angel: and enable all the lines (you may leave backports commented or not, as you wish)
[07:35] <pulver> lumemees: you mean you still have windows on your hard drive?
[07:35] <bushito> _angel: and activate em if they are gray
[07:35] <chakie> i can only get it with a newer source version downloaded from the nvidia page, the kubuntu package just won't do it
[07:36] <chakie> but upgrading to the better package from nvidia breaks amarok...
[07:36] <_angel> nalioth: the I changed universe to universe multiverse
[07:36] <_angel> in the two lines
[07:36] <chakie> this just doesn't look too nice: http://www.smultron.net/tmp/aa.png
[07:36] <nalioth> _angel: did you make sure 'universe' was only in two lines?
[07:36] <_angel> yes
[07:38] <nalioth> _angel: basically, the only two lines that should have # are the backports. and you can enable those if you wish
[07:38] <_angel> nalioth: no way... it didn't work
[07:39] <_angel> nalioth: ok, done
[07:40] <_angel> nalioth: same crap
[07:40] <_angel> nalioth: firefox is not available
[07:40] <nalioth> !info mozilla-firefox
[07:40] <ubotu> mozilla-firefox: (dummy transitional package), section devel, is optional. Version: 1.0.7-0ubuntu20 (breezy), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 84 kB
[07:41] <nalioth> it is in the main repo
[07:41] <_angel> nalioth: so?
[07:41] <nalioth> _angel: if you don't see it, you have problems
[07:41] <_angel> which kind?
[07:42] <_angel> I'm using a usa repository
[07:42] <chakie> sigh, this is 2005, it should not be hard to get a 1920x1200 mode working by default
[07:42] <bushito> aahhh!!
[07:42] <nalioth> _angel: in a konsole, "apt-cache search firefox" should find it
[07:42] <chakie> seems this damn 24" display was a waste of money for linux use
[07:42] <_angel> missing ubunto repositories
[07:42] <_angel> missing ubuntu repositories
[07:43] <bushito> "/etc/x11/xorg.conf: No such file or director", que significa esto! (o_o)
[07:43] <_angel> nalioth: I know...
[07:43] <_angel> nalioth: done...
[07:44] <_angel> bushito: vi /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[07:44] <_angel> ok
[07:45] <_angel> I've to go
[07:45] <_angel> bye
[07:45] <_angel> naolith: tx
[07:45] <reibax> Hi!
[07:45] <_angel> bushito: see ya later
[07:45] <reibax> I need some help over here
[07:45] <rob> when i'm try to change to "administrator mode" in kubuntu 5.10 , i type my password.. and nothing happends, im sure it's the correct password.. somebody  help?
[07:45] <vijay> hi everybody, I want gnome also on mu kubuntu can anybody help me???
[07:46] <nalioth> vijay: install "ubuntu-desktop" using adept
[07:46] <reibax> Can anybody tell me where to find a log where I can read the lines that are printed in the screen when booting up the computer??
[07:46] <vijay> naioth:but i want to install it from ubuntu cd
[07:48] <reibax> I can't believe nobody knows where to find that log...
[07:48] <_jose> join #FreeBSD
[07:48] <_jose> uy, sorry
[07:49] <larsivi> reibax: dmesg gives you the raw output from the kernel
[07:49] <reibax> I'll try that
[07:49] <reibax> thanks
[07:52] <nalioth> vijay: that will work, put the cd into the machine running kubuntu and it will ask you if you want to upgrade from it
[07:58] <vijay> nalioth:thanks, but i commented all the sources and tried it it is installing!!!
[07:59] <nalioth> vijay: cool!
[08:01] <vijay> nalioth: selected kde as default desktop, and i think i can select it while logging in?, is it correct?
[08:10] <Foodcoman> Greetz
[08:13] <bushito> where can i get the ati drivers.... ati.com doesnt got deb packages..
[08:14] <Foodcoman> bushito here comes a rul
[08:14] <Foodcoman> url
[08:14] <Foodcoman> https://wiki.ubuntulinux.org/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI
[08:15] <theine> Hi, does klaptop_acpi_helper make use of the scripts in /etc/acpi ?
[08:15] <Foodcoman> bushito: I dont have ATI so I wont be much help other than that link.
[08:15] <bushito> Foodcoman: oh thanks a link is help full n.n
[08:18] <pulver> _angel: i don't know maybe the answer is is out there :)
[08:23] <jpatrick> Zerlinna: evening
[08:23] <Zerlinna> jpatrick: hiya :)
[08:31] <bushito> anyone here knows a program to check our pc performances?
[08:31] <jpatrick> KInfoCenter
[08:31] <Snake__> Riddell: are you around sir?
[08:34] <jpatrick> Snake__: he hasn't been knighted...
[08:34] <Snake__> jpatrick: ?
[08:34] <jpatrick> Snake__: :)
[08:34] <Snake__> jpatrick: Uhhh......elaborate?
[08:35] <Riddell> Snake__: hi
[08:35] <Riddell> Snake__: I'm not a Sir, infact I don't use any title
[08:35] <jpatrick> Snake__: see what I mean?
[08:36] <Snake__> Riddell: Heh, I was just saying sir to be respectful, because it's a relativly dumb question, but have any KDE 4 screenys been released yet? Digg's search won't work for me
[08:37] <Riddell> Snake__: you should be respectful in all your dealings, it doesn't take a title to make it so.  but there's no KDE 4 UIs yet so no screenshots
[08:37] <Snake__> Riddell: Ahh okay, thanks :)
[08:38] <Riddell> Snake__: http://www.canllaith.org/svn-features/kde4.html
[08:39] <Snake__> Riddell: So their not expecting any major interface changes?
[08:40] <Riddell> Snake__: oh we are but we're working on kdelibs at the moment not the ui
[08:40] <Snake__> Riddell: Gotcha
[08:40] <nalioth> Riddell: the powerpc pkgs are not ready for primetime
[08:41] <Riddell> nalioth: I'll let you know when I have some 3.5.1 ones for testing
[08:41] <Snake__> Riddell: How many graphical designers does KDE have?
[08:42] <Riddell> Snake__: depends entirely on how you count it
[08:42] <Riddell> 3 people are working on oxygen
[08:42] <Snake__> Oxygen is....?
[08:43] <jpatrick> Icon set for KDE 4!
[08:43] <Snake__> Oh :D
[08:44] <jpatrick> Snake__: http://oxygen-icons.org/
[08:45] <optotron> wich is the newest kernel?
[08:45] <Snake__> jpatrick: hmmm not to shabby
[08:45] <optotron> version
[08:47] <dana2>  has to go today 1 alienware laptop 1 alienware desktop. price 500 each includes shipping and carry case for the laptop or monitor/keyboard/mouse for the desktop. message me if your interested at mcsltd1@hotmail.com, or ogd443 on aim or mcsltd2 on yahoo messenger. these MUST go today!
[08:55] <gamma> i'm having trouble with swsusp2.. the hibernate script says i didn't compile swsusp2 support, but it's in there... any idea?
[09:01] <capotej> anyone on kde 3.5
[09:01] <bushito> KDE 3.5 got much dependecy
[09:02] <bushito> if you dont know what you doing you might break packages =)
[09:02] <jpatrick> bushito: no problems here
[09:02] <bushito> jpatrick: you sure??? =P
[09:02] <capotej> jpatrick: what features does it have over 3.4
[09:02] <jpatrick> capotej: loads
[09:03] <jorik> aint got no problems ghere either
[09:03] <jpatrick> bushito: yessss
[09:03] <jorik> i upgraded to get kpdf to render the "is proper subset of" symbol
[09:03] <bushito> hmm wierd
[09:03] <jpatrick> capotej: see the visual guide at kde.org
[09:05] <capotej> jpatrick: is there a guide to upgrading somewhere
[09:05] <jpatrick> capotej: I wrote one at kubuntuforums.net
[09:06] <jpatrick> capotej: let me dig it up
[09:06] <capotej> awesome
[09:07] <jpatrick> one sec
[09:08] <cplusplus> hi
[09:09] <cplusplus> who what the one with a german girlfriend?
[09:09] <jpatrick> cplusplus: err...
[09:09] <bushito> ....
[09:09] <cplusplus> err?
[09:09] <bushito> jpatrick: i am waiting for the link =P 2
[09:09] <jpatrick> bushito, capotej : http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=817.0
[09:10] <capotej> thank you
[09:10] <cplusplus> jpatrick err?
[09:10] <bushito> thx
[09:10] <jpatrick> cplusplus: not sure
[09:11] <cplusplus> dcode what his name
[09:13] <bushito> jpatrick: last time i did that... and got lot of dependecy problems....
[09:14] <kBCC> Upgraded from 3.4 to 3.5.. no problems whatsoever
[09:15] <bushito> i didhad no visual problems but when i runned aptitude it told me i had lot of broken packages
[09:15] <Aapzak> 'evenin
[09:15] <kBCC> Don't have that either..  did you get the package from kubuntu.org?
[09:15] <bushito> kBCC: yes as the link told on topic
[09:16] <kBCC> And you just dpkg -i 'd it ?
[09:16] <bushito> i installed with apt-get
[09:16] <bushito> added repository...
[09:16] <kBCC> Are there sources for that?
[09:17] <bushito> the only thing i didnt was the wget thing
[09:17] <bushito> yeah... read topic
[09:17] <bushito> ...
[09:17] <nalioth> ubotu: tell kBCC about kde3.5
[09:17] <nalioth> kBCC: yes there are
[09:17] <capotej> what is dapper
[09:18] <nalioth> kBCC: and if you want to live on the cutting edge, ridde11 put up some alpha kde 3.51 pkgs this morning
[09:18] <bushito> new dist
[09:18] <nalioth> !dapper
[09:18] <ubotu> somebody said dapper was The 6.04 version of Ubuntu will be called the "Dapper Drake" release. Release date April 20, 2006. Not before. It is NOT ready for use.  Use it at your _own_ risk, when it breaks you need to be able to fix it yourself.
[09:18] <bushito> =) 6.04 of kubuntu
[09:18] <kBCC> bushito > I used this version: http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[09:19] <haykel> Hi everybody .. do someone knows why phpmyadmin and sekuel in breezy need php4 and not php5?
[09:19] <capotej> next i need to get lamp working
[09:19] <kBCC> haykel -> Why apt-get phpmyadmin?
[09:19] <bushito> kBCC: thats the one i did 2 and ended messing all up my system had to resinstall =)
[09:20] <kBCC> bushito > Works excellent here
[09:20] <kBCC> Sorry :)
[09:20] <kBCC> SVG icons :)
[09:21] <bushito> *sniff* *sniff*
[09:21] <capotej> i may switch to konq now
[09:21] <capotej> since it passes acid2
[09:21] <capotej> is kopete any better?
[09:21] <bushito> and what upgrade performence does kde 3.5 got?
[09:22] <kBCC> copotej> I rather do my banking then look at a smiley :)
[09:22] <kBCC> Don't really know the difference..ran 3.4 for about 2 days :)
[09:22] <bushito> hehehehehe
[09:23] <bushito> i know that visual is not it =P
[09:23] <haykel> kBCC: apt-get install phpmyadmin will install php4 modules with it and remove the php5 modules from the system!
[09:24] <kBCC> haykel -> Yeah, that makes sense don't you think?
[09:24] <haykel> kBCC: bu I need php5
[09:24] <capotej> thats funny
[09:24] <capotej> this is my 2nd day running 3/4
[09:24] <wasp_ems> hi does anyone know how you change the permissions on a file...how to access them as root?
[09:24] <kBCC> haykel -> You can either override it, or just download the file from phpmyadmin and put it in the htdocs folder.
[09:25] <kBCC> wasp_ems: chmod 700  / chown root:root
[09:25] <haykel> kBCC: override it? how?
[09:25] <bushito> wasp_ems: sudo chown usernam.root (filename)
[09:25] <capotej> kBCC: does kopete still suck
[09:25] <kBCC> haykel -> I think you shouldn't override it :)
[09:25] <haykel> kBCC: ;)
[09:26] <kBCC> capotej -> I use trillian :)
[09:26] <capotej> on linux?
[09:26] <kBCC> Haykel -> Why do you want to get it as a package?
[09:26] <kBCC> capotej -> Synergy :)
[09:26] <haykel> It's just I would prefer install packages instead of downloading sources and unpacking it somewhere in the filesystem
[09:27] <bushito> hhmm when itry to delete a folder i get this error message "Creating folders is not supported with protocol trash."
[09:27] <haykel> kBCC: to have a "clean", upgradable and coherent system
[09:27] <kBCC> Haykel -> True.. but technically speaking phpmyadmin is not really a program.. more a fancy phpscript
[09:27] <capotej> what is synergy?
[09:27] <kBCC> Haykel -> And overriding your dependancies would ruin your clean upgradable and coherent system pretty badly
[09:28] <haykel> kBCC: package would also install dependencies automatically
[09:28] <jorik> oh c'mon ... phpadmin *is* a program
[09:28] <haykel> I was simply wandering why there isn't a version for php5
[09:29] <kBCC> synergy2.sourceforge.net
[09:29] <kBCC> haykel > Has to do with the packagemanager
[09:29] <wasp_ems> kBCC: is says permission denied
[09:29] <wasp_ems> bushito:  it says permission denied
[09:30] <kBCC> Works fine here...?!
[09:30] <bushito> wasp_ems: what says permission denied?
[09:30] <wasp_ems> when i run the chown command
[09:30] <bushito> wasp_ems: you tried it with sudo?? at the beggining of co,mmand?
[09:30] <kBCC> Oh, sorry :)
[09:31] <kBCC> Are you running as root or sudo?
[09:31] <bushito> !root
[09:31] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[09:31] <wasp_ems> yes
[09:31] <capotej> i just do sudo su
[09:31] <bushito> you must use sudo =O
[09:31] <capotej> i know what im doing
[09:31] <capotej> just give me a root shell!
[09:31] <capotej> =)
[09:31] <Xemanth^^> bushito: and why should use sudo ? ^^
[09:32] <jpatrick> capotej: sudo -s
[09:32] <bushito> Xemanth^^:  cause it grants you oot permissions (o_o)
[09:32] <wasp_ems> bushito: i just have 2 locked files which are my windows partition and my external hard drive..i want to change the permissions so i can access them..thats all
[09:32] <bushito> root*
[09:32] <Xemanth^^> nobody haven't explained me still whats great with sudo
[09:32] <Xemanth^^> bushito: su does it too
[09:33] <bushito> Xemanth^^: sudo and su =O take a guess xP
[09:33] <warrior|atwork> who here might help me with finding out how to start a MetaBar under Kubuntu?
[09:33] <warrior|atwork> :)
[09:33] <bushito> wasp_ems: eehhh trying to acces a ntfs partition it is a little more complicated
[09:33] <warrior|atwork> is there someplace that i need to click to enable or something?
[09:33] <wasp_ems> no it is not...i did it the first time i installed kubuntu..i just dont remeber how
[09:33] <bushito> wasp_ems: you need to mount it as read only
[09:33] <Xemanth^^> Xemanth^ i just see that sudo (without -s) is useless piece of sh**
[09:34] <wasp_ems> ok how will i do that???
[09:34] <Xemanth^^> bushito:  i mean :D
[09:34] <Foodcoman> Xemanth^  http://www.linuxsecurity.com/content/view/117272/
[09:34] <bushito> Xemanth^^: dont complicate yourself use what suit your probs =)
[09:34] <capotej> jpatrick: is it ok if i run the update while inside kde
[09:35] <jpatrick> capotej: yes
[09:35] <capotej> ok
[09:35] <bushito> wasp_ems: you know how to mount partition right?
[09:35] <wasp_ems> no
[09:36] <wasp_ems> unless i right click and choose mount
[09:36] <bushito> wasp_ems: OKey you know what id is your windows partition?
[09:36] <wasp_ems> hda3
[09:36] <bushito> wasp_ems: if you click mount it should give you an error =O
[09:36] <bushito> wasp_ems: normal if it is a ntfs partition
[09:37] <wasp_ems> bushito: ok so what should i do?
[09:37] <bushito> wasp_ems: to mount ntfs partitions type on shell $ sudo vim /etc/fstab
[09:37] <Xemanth^^> bushito: "ordinary user" :D
[09:37] <warrior|atwork> anyone? no one? :P
[09:37] <bushito> wasp_ems: or instead of vim the one that suits you =)
[09:37] <wasp_ems> meaning?
[09:37] <bushito> Xemanth^^: bushito is a newbie =P
[09:38] <bushito> wasp_ems: the text editor you prefer
[09:38] <_pieter> hi there, I need help with my display settings: I cannot select 1280x800 resolution on my laptop
[09:38] <bushito> wasp_ems: you inside of fstab you should see how are yours devices managed
[09:39] <Xemanth^^> i still cant understand why devs of ubuntu have made root pass same as user pass by default
[09:39] <wasp_ems> ok thanx
[09:39] <Xemanth^^> bushito: ahm :)
[09:39] <bushito> Xemanth^^:  maybe cause people keeps forgeting root password =)
[09:40] <dell500> what's a good antivirus prog for kubuntu?
[09:41] <jpatrick> dell500: clamav
[09:41] <abionnnn> dell500: rationality :)
[09:41] <Xemanth^^> bushito: hmm maybe, but if user pass is same than roots pass hacker can make email perl script which logs su pass and wipes whole comp easily
[09:42] <Xemanth^^> different su pass than user pass makes linux different from win, that makes it speciakl
[09:42] <_pieter> anyone managed to run 1280x800 resolution on laptop? (with 915resolution)
[09:42] <Xemanth^^> -k
[09:42] <bushito> Xemanth^^: thats why you should not open or look for unknown files =)
[09:42] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: i have 1280x800 wide screen
[09:42] <Xemanth^^> bushito: lol
[09:43] <_pieter> Xemanth: did you use the 915resolution patch?
[09:43] <bushito> Xemanth^^: =)
[09:43] <Xemanth^^> bushito: 915 res patch ? what do you mean by that?
[09:43] <Xemanth^^> fuck
[09:43] <Xemanth^^> sry !
[09:43] <bushito> Xemanth^^: nothing =P
[09:43] <bushito> Xemanth^^: hehehe
[09:43] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: 915 res patch ? :>
[09:44] <dell500> i've tried clamav, but it didn't work on reg ubuntu (gnome), what's rationality?
[09:44] <dell500> brb, gotta take the recycling down
[09:44] <_pieter> Xemanth: after installation I cannot select 1280x800, only 1024x768. Wiki says I need 915resolution program.
[09:44] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: i have Acer 5024wlmi with 1280x800
[09:44] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: in installation you could select 1280x800
[09:44] <sampan> Xemanth^^, i think you misunderstand ubuntu's root/sudo.  root pass != userpass.  by default, you simply cannot log in under root in ubuntu.  it's actually HARDER for brute force since they have to guess both your username AND your userpass.  they can't use "root" and your userpass to login at all.
[09:45] <sampan> by default root logins are disabled
[09:45] <Xemanth^^> sampan: hmm yeah but if hacker knows that dude is running kubuntu he can do sudo -s and put users pass in it
[09:45] <Xemanth^^> or hack with sudo -s brute force
[09:46] <bushito> sampan: common users use the irc username as their own username (O_O)
[09:46] <sampan> ummmm, he has to have logged in FIRST to be able to use sudo -s
[09:46] <sampan> so he still has to have your username AND your userpass
[09:46] <_pieter> Xemanth: I couldn't select 1280x800 in installation. Seems a known problem: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/i915Driver
[09:46] <bushito> xD
[09:46] <Xemanth^^> yeah, you just telnet or ssh to users comp
[09:46] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: well i could O o
[09:47] <Xemanth^^> _pieter: ah
[09:47] <sampan> bushito, you can't stop people from acting stupidly in ALL cases.  but sudo is safer than having a root account
[09:47] <Xemanth^^> _pieter:  i have ATI X700 128mb gfx
[09:47] <_pieter> Xemanth: you're allright I suppose. But I can't get the workaround to work.
[09:48] <bushito> sampan: =) you are right xD
[09:48] <fusionfox> ...
[09:49] <_pieter> I installed 915resolution and made a new resolution 1280x800x24
[09:50] <Xemanth^^> nice
[09:50] <haTem> has anyone gotten the Moodin ksplash engine successfully installed? I compiled it, the themes show up in the splash screen selecter, but when I try and choose them I get a message saying "This theme requires the plugin Moodin which is not installed."
[09:51] <haTem> I did a ./configure, make, and make install... have I missed anything?
[09:51] <paines> hi
[09:51] <Xemanth^^> sampan: where does sudo log stuff?
[09:52] <sampan> xemanth^^  you mean login attempts?
[09:52] <Xemanth^^> yes login stuff :)
[09:52] <sampan> xemanth^^  i'd guess in some /var/log file -- i usually just look at it in ksysguard
[09:52] <sampan> the auth log
[09:53] <sampan> it's pretty simple actually: sudo can do everything root can do and it deprives hackers from KNOWING (beforehand) one half of the login sequence.  hence, it's safer. as long as people don't give away their username it's safer -- and even if they did give away their username, that's still no more information than a hacker has trying to login as root on a typical *nix box.
[09:53] <capotej> happily on kde 3.5
[09:53] <Xemanth^^> sampan: ah auth log :> didn't never look into it in kubuntu
[09:53] <capotej> thanks jpatrick your guide rocks
[09:53] <paines> anyone using dapper. and kmail with spamassassin.my email isn't filtered et all.
[09:54] <jpatrick> capotej: I thought it was rather basic
[09:54] <capotej> ive been a linux admin for years, but im totaly new to debian
[09:55] <jpatrick> capotej: I've been using Linux for like 10 months..
[09:56] <Captainbraille> Hi
[09:56] <evil-doer> does every media player on linux need to transfer the entire video file for smb shared videos, or can any stream them?
[09:56] <cplusplus> can someone help me with a samba problem?
[09:56] <cplusplus> i what to share files between kubuntu and windows xp
[09:57] <cplusplus> i released a folder here in kubuntu
[09:57] <Captainbraille> I'm new to linux, I currently use Suse 10.0 and I think I want to switch to Kubuntu, is there someone I can talk with?
[09:58] <xatalinux> hello
[09:58] <fusionfox> Captainbraille: everyone in this chat =)
[09:58] <cplusplus> and in my smb.conf http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/zrfM2S97.html
[09:58] <Captainbraille> Lol, thanks fusionfox
[09:58] <cplusplus> i want that i dont need a passwd .... but i cant write thats the problem
[09:58] <Captainbraille> Do you use kubuntu?
[09:58] <fusionfox> Captainbraille: just shoot =p well try to answer
[09:59] <xatalinux> i'm very new in linux and i will like to install syneptik package
[09:59] <fusionfox> Captainbraille: lol =) take a guess
[09:59] <cplusplus> any idea?
[09:59] <xatalinux> can somebody to help me ?
[09:59] <capotej> Captainbraille: i used suse 10 since it came out, and i switgoched to kubuntu about 2 days a
[10:00] <Far^Side> how do I disable the automounting of CDs and DVDs in KDE 3.5?
[10:00] <Captainbraille> I kinda like SuSE, I've had some problems with YaST, but I'm learning, and I'm using all KDE packages, so I figured maybe I should just go for it
[10:00] <capotej> what problems are you having with yast
[10:00] <Captainbraille> How do you like it so far?
[10:00] <capotej> its ok
[10:01] <cplusplus> hm?
[10:01] <odez909> hi all
[10:01] <capotej> its very do-it-yourself
[10:01] <capotej> which i kinda miss
[10:01] <capotej> how hardcore into linux are you
[10:01] <evil-doer> i put suse on my laptop a few weeks ago and kubuntu on another computer just today. they both seem good
[10:01] <Captainbraille> I'm having trouble understanding how to update things and files I can download, I don't know anything about linux, I really want to learn
[10:01] <capotej> suse is way easier than kubuntu
[10:01] <fusionfox> Captainbraille: put my name when you talking to me =P so i can check, and it is very good =P
[10:01] <xatalinux> can some one to help me to instal syneptic package?
[10:01] <capotej> if you want to learn then id switch to kubuntu since they have such an awesome community
[10:02] <fusionfox> Captainbraille: if you talkting to somebudy else put his/her name =P
[10:02] <Xemanth^^> _root [n=root@AReims-154-1-10-83.w83-204.abo.wanadoo.fr]  has joined #kubuntu <- i guess root means something ?
[10:02] <xatalinux> i'm very new in linux
[10:02] <Tm_T> I guess noone should irc as root
[10:02] <Far^Side> Xemanth^^, it just means a root user
[10:02] <evil-doer> altho sound isnt working yet
[10:02] <_root> (im french) no it doesn't meen anything ^^
[10:02] <Captainbraille> fusionfox: sorry about that, is installing 'things' (meaning packages and updates)  pretty easy in Kubuntu?
[10:03] <_root> how can i change my login please
[10:03] <capotej> yea, i would say just as easy as yast
[10:03] <Captainbraille> fusionfox: why did you decide to go with Kubuntu?
[10:03] <evil-doer> i just did an update and installed some stuff Captainbraille, seems about as easy
[10:03] <Xemanth^^> Far^Side: well that i understood too, but isn't that little risky :D
[10:03] <xatalinux> no body can hellp me ??????.........
[10:04] <BlacKnight52> that's it ^^
[10:04] <BlacKnight52> what's your pb ?
[10:04] <odez909> how do you search for channels in kirc
[10:04] <odez909> ??
[10:04] <evil-doer> i went with suse on my laptop because its live cd had the most things working out of the box without configuring
[10:05] <xatalinux> im new in linux and i will like to know how i can install syneptic package ?
[10:05] <capotej> anyone using superkaramba inside 3.5
[10:05] <Captainbraille> captej, I have a question about updating amaroK to 1.3.8 how can I?
[10:05] <BlacKnight52> your on gnome ?
[10:05] <BlacKnight52> so run synaptic by the gnome menu
[10:05] <Far^Side> capotej, I'm using superkaramba im 3.5
[10:06] <BlacKnight52> choose a package and rightclick+install
[10:06] <xatalinux> were i can find gnome menu /
[10:06] <capotej> Far^Side: how do you run it
[10:06] <BlacKnight52> i can't really help you 'cause im on KDE :/
[10:06] <BlacKnight52> but as i remember
[10:06] <Far^Side> capotej, just started superkaramba I guess
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> it on a bar in the top of the screen
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> *it's
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> again, sorry for my english, im french and im 16
[10:07] <theine> BlacKnight52, is Synaptic installed by default in Kubuntu?
[10:07] <xatalinux> k
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> non it's adept
[10:07] <capotej> you just typed that into run
[10:07] <xatalinux> thanks
[10:07] <Captainbraille> When I try to doanload Kubuntu it keeps stalling
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> it's the same programme
[10:07] <BlacKnight52> *program
[10:08] <theine> BlacKnight52, no, it's not...
[10:08] <Far^Side> capotej, yes I guess so
[10:08] <BlacKnight52> moving from gnome to kde is quite hard :/
[10:08] <capotej> i thought it was integrated into 3.5
[10:08] <BlacKnight52> yes maybe
[10:08] <theine> xatalinux, so you want to use Synaptic under KDE?
[10:08] <xatalinux> i have olso kubuntu
[10:09] <xatalinux> yes
[10:09] <BlacKnight52> don't you think it's better to use Adept instead of synaptic in kde ?
[10:09] <Far^Side> xatalinux, have you tried kynaptic?
[10:09] <theine> BlacKnight52, no!
[10:09] <theine> BlacKnight52, adept is horrible IMHO
[10:09] <Captainbraille> evil-doer: what type of installer/ updater does Kubuntu use?
[10:09] <BlacKnight52> why ?
[10:09] <BlacKnight52> I use it nowadays & it's very cool
[10:09] <xatalinux> i just install kubuntu 2 houers ago
[10:09] <theine> BlacKnight52, have you actually used Synaptic?
[10:10] <xatalinux> i don't so much about
[10:10] <BlacKnight52> i've been using it on gnom a year before
[10:10] <theine> BlacKnight52, anyway, it won't do any harm to have synaptic around
[10:10] <BlacKnight52> and i prefer Adept
[10:10] <theine> BlacKnight52, you're free to prefer whatever you want
[10:11] <BlacKnight52> theine, sorry but i don't understand harm :/ ( im french )
[10:11] <xatalinux> k
[10:11] <xatalinux> can hellp me to instal one package
[10:11] <Captainbraille> Anyone here prefer the Konqueror browser over Firefox? Or vice-versa?
[10:11] <theine> BlacKnight52, there's no drawback to having Synaptic installed under Kubuntu
[10:11] <BlacKnight52> i prefer firefox !
[10:11] <paines> konqi
[10:11] <BlacKnight52> ah ok
[10:11] <fusionfox> i like konqueror
[10:11] <BlacKnight52> ^^
[10:11] <Far^Side> Captainbraille, vice versa
[10:11] <fusionfox> =P
[10:11] <Captainbraille> Haha
[10:12] <haTem> has anyone gotten the Moodin ksplash engine successfully installed? I have tried compiling it and installing the binary deb package, the themes show up in the splash screen selecter, but when I try and choose them I get a message saying "This theme requires the plugin Moodin which is not installed." (on ubuntu breezy and kde 3.5)
[10:12] <theine> xatalinux, still there?
[10:12] <BlacKnight52> any one know how to play swf ( flash ) files directly under linux ?
[10:12] <redguy> xatalinux: which package?
[10:12] <jpatrick> haTem: what??
[10:12] <xatalinux> yes
[10:12] <redguy> !tell xatalinux about ask
[10:12] <jpatrick> haTem: should work
[10:12] <xatalinux> i don/\'t know
[10:12] <jpatrick> haTem: restart KDE
[10:12] <haTem> jpatrick: lol, I agree
[10:12] <xatalinux> what is the best
[10:12] <haTem> jpatrick: hm, okay
[10:12] <Zappa> haTem: i had to reboot to get that to work, or perhaps just restart your x server
[10:12] <theine> xatalinux, I would suggest to install Synaptic first, and the install all other software using synaptic
[10:12] <jpatrick> haTem: I packaged that
[10:12] <xatalinux> k
[10:12] <Captainbraille> Far^Side- BlacKnight52- why fire fox if I may ask?  fire fox is the reason I decided to switch to linux
[10:13] <haTem> Zappa: jpatrick: lol, okay I'll try restarting kde
[10:13] <xatalinux> but were i can find synaptik/
[10:13] <theine> xatalinux, look in the K-menu for an application called "konsole" and launch it
[10:13] <redguy> theine: huh? whats wrong with adept?
[10:13] <theine> redguy, I hate it
[10:13] <BlacKnight52> there is no big reason but i just prefer firefox, its a taste question ^^
[10:13] <Captainbraille> fusionfox, why do you like konqueror better?
[10:13] <jpatrick> Zappa: "apt-cache show ksplash-engine-moodin" :)
[10:13] <redguy> theine: hah, I understand... :-)
[10:14] <theine> redguy, and I'm sure every self-announced usability expert agrees with me ;)
[10:14] <xatalinux> k i open
[10:14] <haTem> jpatrick: works now :)
[10:14] <haTem> thanks
[10:14] <Zappa> jpatrick: nice ;)
[10:14] <xatalinux> i open the console
[10:14] <theine> xatalinux, good, now in there, type "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[10:14] <jpatrick> haTem: see: "apt-cache show ksplash-engine-moodin" ;)
[10:14] <theine> xatalinux, when you're asked for a password, type in your user password
[10:15] <redguy> Captainbraille: don't want to make you go away from linux, but firefox works slower in linux than it does in windows actually
[10:16] <Far^Side> Captainbraille, I just use firefox, because I've been using the Mozilla Suite for years, and now I'm on the team that translates firefox to norwegian bokml... also the other stuff, like extensions, tabs, etc, etc
[10:16] <BlacKnight52> redguy > slower ?! i think there is no big differences
[10:16] <theine> redguy, i think that used to true for the ubuntu version only (i.e. not for the binary one from mozilla.org)
[10:17] <xatalinux> k
[10:17] <Captainbraille> redguy: yeah I noticed that too! I thought it seemed a bit slower, my wife said I was just too excited about linux
[10:17] <theine> xatalinux, does it look like it worked?
[10:17] <BlacKnight52> theine > i agree
[10:18] <xatalinux> is come somthing faield
[10:18] <theine> xatalinux, say again?
[10:18] <Xemanth^^> xatalinux ?
[10:18] <BlacKnight52> does anyone now where can i find a file for "Scite" to color the flash action script language ?
[10:18] <BlacKnight52> *know
[10:18] <xatalinux> breezy-security relese
[10:19] <xatalinux> is coming this
[10:19] <BlacKnight52> nobody ?
[10:19] <Captainbraille> Far^Side: wow, thats so cool! My favorite thing about Firefox is that you can move the search box anywhere you want , I haven't been able to do that in Kongueror
[10:19] <xatalinux> and they send me in administration directory
[10:19] <BlacKnight52> ok... :/
[10:20] <theine> xatalinux, I'm sorry, but I don't understand what you mean
[10:20] <xatalinux> k
[10:20] <redguy> BlacKnight52, theine: at least you'll agree that it's slower than konqueror, won't you?
[10:20] <fusionfox> can anyone tell me the link to install ati cards
[10:20] <xatalinux> the comand is don't have efect
[10:20] <BlacKnight52> it depends
[10:20] <BlacKnight52> for the start yes
[10:20] <theine> redguy, yes, although the difference in dapper is very tiny in my experience
[10:20] <xatalinux> but coming somthing about breezy ....
[10:21] <BlacKnight52> but while running i don't see the defrence
[10:21] <BlacKnight52> *diference
[10:21] <theine> xatalinux, that's probably ok
[10:21] <theine> xatalinux, do you see something that really looks like an error message?
[10:21] <xatalinux> and send me to go to the administration directory
[10:21] <xatalinux> k
[10:22] <xatalinux> what i must to do ?
[10:22] <xatalinux> i install kubuntu about 3 hourse ago
[10:22] <BlacKnight52> fusionfox : just don't install the ati's proprietary drivers, it made me kde crash :/
[10:22] <theine> xatalinux, who `send you to go to the administration directory'?
[10:23] <theine> xatalinux, what are the exact words you see in konsole?
[10:23] <BlacKnight52> ( hum not kde exactly but the Xserver )
[10:23] <xatalinux> ble)
[10:23] <xatalinux> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:23] <BlacKnight52> just use the fgrlx or a name like that
[10:24] <theine> xatalinux, ah...
[10:24] <xatalinux> bash: i: command not found
[10:24] <BlacKnight52> xtatlinux > you must close oser apt-get programs
[10:24] <xatalinux> xatalinux@53546F2Exatalinux:~$ is good
[10:24] <xatalinux> bash: is: command not found
[10:24] <xatalinux> xatalinux@53546F2Exatalinux:~$ sudo apt-get update  && sudo apt-get install synaptic
[10:24] <xatalinux> Get:1 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:24] <xatalinux> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release [19.6kB] 
[10:24] <xatalinux> Get:3 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[10:24] <theine> xatalinux, oh no, dude...
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Sources
[10:24] <sampan> xatalinux  O_O  please don't paste in here
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Sources
[10:24] <Xemanth^^> oh no
[10:24] <xatalinux> Get:4 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release.gpg [189B] 
[10:24] <sampan> lol
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy Release
[10:24] <xatalinux> Get:5 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates Release [19.6kB] 
[10:24] <Xemanth^^> lol
[10:24] <theine> That'll take a while...
[10:24] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Packages
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Packages
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/main Sources
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy/restricted Sources
[10:25] <BlacKnight52> shure...
[10:25] <BlacKnight52> *sure
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Packages
[10:25] <Xemanth^^> yop
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Packages
[10:25] <Xemanth^^> hows you guys doing?
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/main Sources
[10:25] <Xemanth^^> meh drinking here beer
[10:25] <xatalinux> Hit http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy-updates/restricted Sources
[10:25] <xatalinux> Fetched 39.6kB in 3s (10.3kB/s)
[10:25] <xatalinux> E: Could not get lock /var/lib/dpkg/lock - open (11 Resource temporarily unavailable)
[10:25] <xatalinux> E: Unable to lock the administration directory (/var/lib/dpkg/), is another process using it?
[10:25] <xatalinux> k
[10:25] <theine> fabulous, thanks
[10:25] <sampan> ubotu tell xatalinux about pastebin
[10:26] <Xemanth^^> xatalinux: http://pastebin.com
[10:26] <theine> xatalinux, ok, then please paste the output of "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get install synaptic" over at pastebin.com
[10:26] <theine> xatalinux, those are actually two seperate commands
[10:27] <xatalinux> k
[10:27] <xatalinux> thank you for help
[10:27] <Zappa> make sure you havent got adept or anything else open (like another apt process running)
[10:27] <Zappa> if not, just just rm /var/lib/dkpg/lock
[10:27] <Zappa> -just
[10:28] <Zappa> or rather /var/lib/dpkg/lock even
[10:28] <theine> xatalinux, are you running adept?
[10:30] <xatalinux> i open the link what you give me
[10:30] <theine> xatalinux, are you running an application called "Adept" right now?
[10:31] <ubuntu> hi alla
[10:31] <xatalinux> no
[10:31] <xatalinux> were i can find?
[10:32] <theine> xatalinux, in konsole, type "sudo rm /var/lib/dpkg/lock"
[10:32] <xatalinux> yes it was open
[10:32] <xatalinux> sorry
[10:33] <theine> xatalinux, ok, now in konsole, type "sudo apt-get update"
[10:33] <xatalinux> k
[10:33] <xatalinux> comand is done
[10:34] <BlacKnight52> where can i find themes fo deKorator ( KDE ) exept kde-look.org ?
[10:34] <theine> xatalinux, did you get an error message?
[10:34] <BlacKnight52> *for
[10:34] <theine> xatalinux, great, now in konsole again, type "sudo apt-get install synaptic"
[10:34] <xatalinux> tell somthing about breezy
[10:34] <Tm_T> BlacKnight52: you haven't tried google? ;)
[10:34] <xatalinux> but in the end is done
[10:34] <xatalinux> k
[10:34] <BlacKnight52> yes i've try it but it doesn't made a lot of resulsts :/
[10:35] <Tm_T> ok :(
[10:35] <Tm_T> but I dont know
[10:35] <BlacKnight52> *didn't make ( thats better )
[10:35] <BlacKnight52> ^^
[10:35] <theine> Tm_T, using german keyboard layout?
[10:37] <xatalinux> now is starting to run
[10:37] <theine> xatalinux, does it download something?
[10:37] <xatalinux> yes
[10:37] <theine> xatalinux, good, let me know when it's done
[10:37] <xatalinux> k
[10:38] <Tm_T> theine: finnish
[10:39] <xatalinux> i thing is finish
[10:39] <theine> Tm_T, ah, I see
[10:39] <Tm_T> theine: ' and  are next to each other
[10:39] <vipersniper> what is the default root passwd in kubuntu
[10:39] <theine> Tm_T, ok
[10:39] <Tm_T> !root
[10:39] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[10:40] <theine> xatalinux, ok, now look in the K-menu for an application called "Synaptic"
[10:40] <xatalinux> but i don't know were is download
[10:40] <theine> xatalinux, it's already installed
[10:41] <theine> xatalinux, Synaptic is in the System menu
[10:41] <xatalinux> yes
[10:41] <theine> xatalinux, found it?
[10:41] <xatalinux> thank you
[10:41] <xatalinux> yes
[10:41] <theine> xatalinux, ok, use this application for installing programs and updating the system
[10:41] <xatalinux> k
[10:46] <flowers> how do i upgrade firefox to 1.5? i tried to do aptitude install firefox but it installed like 1.07 or something. then i changed my sources to universal but that didn't help. then i downloaded the bin file but i'm not quite sure wha to do with it :\ i'm new at this linux game... obviously
[10:47] <Zappa> flowers: there's a guide at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion?highlight=%28firefox%29
[10:48] <vipersniper> i instaled kubuntu but no kde ;)
[10:48] <flowers> thank you Zappa
[11:03] <Zappa> does anyone know if it's possible to find all files _except_ those that match a string using find?
[11:03] <vipersniper> whats hte command to install full kde
[11:03] <vipersniper> not kdebase
[11:03] <Zappa> kubuntu-desktop i think
[11:04] <trappist> Zappa: find /path ! -name 'name'
[11:04] <Zappa> aha
[11:04] <Zappa> cheers
[11:11] <nalioth> vipersniper: yes, install "
[11:11] <nalioth> kubuntu-desktop"
[11:16] <vipersniper> nalioth, thanks
[11:17] <nalioth> vipersniper: share the love (help someone else)
[11:19] <vipersniper> nalioth, lol, i will
[11:32] <JakubS> Riddell: i got rid of evil kded crashing bug in kdnssd-avahi: http://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=120355
[11:33] <Riddell> JakubS: excellent :)
[11:33] <JakubS> i wish all bugs were so easy to catch :-)
[11:49] <fusionfox> how the hell i install my ati video card T_T
[11:51] <Zappa> add the xorg-driver-fglrx package
[11:52] <fusionfox> ???
[11:52] <fusionfox> apt-get install xorg-driver-fglrx?
[11:53] <Zappa> fusionfox: yeah, don't forget the sudo in front of that
[11:54] <fusionfox> well
[11:54] <Xemanth^^> fusionfox: well ati is piece of shit, get nvidia card if its possible
[11:54] <Xemanth^^> i would
[11:54] <Zappa> yeah i can attest to that
[11:54] <hatake_kakashi> lol
[11:54] <Zappa> certainly with cedega
[11:54] <Zappa> cant play shit with my ati
[11:54] <fusionfox> but it is my pice of shit T_T
[11:54] <Xemanth^^> well its just ati
[11:54] <hatake_kakashi> ati has its benefits, its just too bad that they don't have good driver support for linux
[11:54] <Xemanth^^> ati=piece of shit
[11:54] <fusionfox> and yeah i am trying to play with cedega
[11:54] <fusionfox> >_>
[11:54] <Zappa> not really, just lack of development on the linux drivers
[11:55] <hatake_kakashi> well, either way
[11:55] <Zappa> fusionfox: i pretty much can't get anything i've tried to work
[11:55] <Xemanth^^> well ati's win drivers are piece of shit too
[11:55] <Zappa> fusionfox: guildwars *barely* works
[11:55] <fusionfox> who said SO!! >_>
[11:55] <Xemanth^^> like this nice ber nice control center
[11:55] <fusionfox> i play on windoes more better
[11:55] <fusionfox> tha nwith a ati
[11:55] <fusionfox> i mean a nvidea
[11:55] <fusionfox> XD
[11:55] <fusionfox> =P
[11:55] <fusionfox> i just wanna install 3d acceleration
[11:56] <hatake_kakashi> Xemanth^^: nvidia used to cheat to get consumers, they cheated by making programs used optimised codes, which makes it perform a hell lot better than ati :p
[11:56] <fusionfox> doesnt mater if it is a pice of shit
[11:56] <hatake_kakashi> s/used/using
[11:56] <Zappa> fusionfox: well opengl works just fine in that sense
[11:56] <Zappa> fusionfox: just cedega is the problem with ati
[11:57] <fusionfox> hehehe i am trying to get cedega to work
[11:57] <fusionfox> =P
[11:57] <Zappa> i know, you said
[11:57] <fusionfox> (o_o) wuuaa
[11:57] <fusionfox> i want the 3d acceleration to work
[11:57] <hatake_kakashi> fusionfox: its probably better off for you to get the latest ati drivers off their website, configure, make and install yourself
[11:57] <fusionfox> work work work work work work work!!
[11:58] <fusionfox> but can you compile on kubuntu??
[11:58] <Zappa> yeah, its pretty straightforward
[11:58] <fusionfox> i heard you neede some extra packages..
[11:58] <hatake_kakashi> you need to get gcc tools
[11:58] <hatake_kakashi> yes
[11:58] <Zappa> i found a decent howto
[11:58] <Zappa> ubuntu.com i think
[11:58] <fusionfox> hatake_kakashi: can you tell expecific files please?
[11:58] <hatake_kakashi> its a long shot, but its well worth the try
[11:58] <Zappa> search the wiki
[11:58] <nalioth> fusionfox: install "build-essential"
[11:58] <fusionfox> ok
[11:59] <Zappa> but let me tell you, even the latest drivers suck with cedega
[11:59] <hatake_kakashi> Zappa: probably better than nothing I suppose
[11:59] <hatake_kakashi> and I can't believe there
[12:00] <Zappa> well yeah, but theres no difference between the ones in the repositories and the latest from ati.com
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> there's no smartctl in the repos.. not even in universe -_-
[12:00] <Zappa> in terms of performance
[12:00] <fusionfox> i just want 3d acceleration to work
[12:00] <hatake_kakashi> Zappa: bah, well I don't have ati card, I have yet to probably try it out
[12:00] <Zappa> well exctually not true, fgl_glxgears gets quite a bit more fps
[12:00] <fusionfox> dont care how or when xP or by who O_o
[12:01] <hatake_kakashi> Zappa: and yet they say glxgears is not for video fps stress test