[12:02] <Zappa> well the fgl version is quite a bit more nifty
[12:02] <cplusplus> how can i find out my kde version?
[12:02] <hatake_kakashi> wonder if thats ati retaliating with an optimised version of glxgears *scratches chin*
[12:02] <fusionfox> eehh
[12:02] <fusionfox> in every window there is help
[12:02] <hatake_kakashi> cplusplus: About| About KDE
[12:02] <fusionfox> click there
[12:02] <hatake_kakashi> bah.. help*
[12:03] <fusionfox> and then kde version
[12:03] <fusionfox> =P
[12:03] <hatake_kakashi> s/About/Help
[12:03] <fusionfox> lol
[12:03] <fusionfox> xP
[12:03] <Zappa> hatake_kakashi: it's quite different - has a rotating/spinning cube with each face havinf the rotating gears on
[12:03] <hatake_kakashi> Zappa: well, ati may have decided to change a few pieces here and there
[12:05] <cplusplus> about kde?
[12:06] <cplusplus> in terminal?
[12:06] <hatake_kakashi> whichever.., just go konqueror
[12:07] <hatake_kakashi> nalioth: btw, that build-essential stuff seems a little messed up, it was pointing to amd64 packages :)
[12:07] <hatake_kakashi> well some
[12:07] <cplusplus> not found
[12:08] <cplusplus> oh;)
[12:08] <cplusplus> 3,4,3
[12:08] <slow-motion> n8
[12:08] <cplusplus> i sould update to 3.5 ?
[12:08] <cplusplus> ok?
[12:08] <hatake_kakashi> probably, if you wanted to
[12:08] <cplusplus> apt-get intall kde3.5 ok?
[12:09] <cplusplus> or remove the old one before?
[12:09] <hatake_kakashi> cplusplus: there is information on the kubuntu website
[12:09] <nalioth> hatake_kakashi: the build-essential points to wherever your sources.list points to
[12:09] <cplusplus> inform about?
[12:09] <cplusplus> kde 3.5 ?
[12:10] <hatake_kakashi> nalioth: yeah but I saw in the suggested packages part that on some of the packages it was referring to amd64 related tools I believe
[12:10] <hatake_kakashi> cplusplus: yes
[12:10] <cplusplus> not released?
[12:10] <hatake_kakashi> no
[12:10] <fusionfox> hhhhmmm...
[12:10] <hatake_kakashi> cplusplus: go to kubuntu.org website, go look for older news, and click on KDE 3.5 :p
[12:10] <cplusplus> what about http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/ ?
[12:11] <cplusplus> but package not found ...hm
[12:12] <nalioth> !kde3.5
[12:12] <ubotu> rumour has it, kde3.5 is http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[12:12] <fusionfox> !ati
[12:12] <ubotu> from memory, ati is at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[12:13] <cplusplus> nalioth i wnat to download it via apt-get!
[12:14] <nalioth> cplusplus: if you go to that site, and follow the directions, you can
[12:15] <cplusplus> hm..
[12:15] <cplusplus> i add:
[12:15] <cplusplus> wget http://people.ubuntu.com/~jriddell/kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[12:15] <cplusplus>  sudo apt-key add kubuntu-packages-jriddell-key.gpg
[12:16] <cplusplus> but dont work
[12:16] <nalioth> cplusplus: what isnt working?
[12:17] <cplusplus> apt-get install kde35
[12:17] <cplusplus> package not found
[12:17] <bimberi> cplusplus: you run the 'wget...' and the 'sudo apt-key...' commands in a terminal and add the 'deb...' line to your sources.list
[12:17] <nalioth> cplusplus: all you've done with the above command is import a key
[12:17] <hatake_kakashi> I think after that you were supposed to do apt-get update && apt-get upgrade
[12:17] <cplusplus> yes
[12:17] <nalioth> cplusplus: you still need to add the deb URL into your sources.list
[12:17] <bimberi> cplusplus: then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[12:18] <nalioth> cplusplus: has not added the deb URL
[12:18] <cplusplus> add: deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main ?
[12:18] <bimberi> cplusplus: yes
[12:18] <hatake_kakashi> as the website says, yes into your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <nalioth> cplusplus: you need to add "deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35 breezy main" to your /etc/apt/sources.list
[12:19] <bimberi> actually the website doesn't mention sources.list
[12:19] <LeeJunFan> anyone know if kchm or some other chm reading app is in dapper?
[12:20] <hatake_kakashi> bimberi: it does
[12:20] <cplusplus> nalioth why does it work aoutomaticall?
[12:20] <bimberi> hatake_kakashi: oh yes, it's been changed :)
[12:20] <hatake_kakashi> the only thing it does not say is apt-get update && apt-get dist-upgrade
[12:21] <bimberi> yes, hence...
[12:21] <bimberi> !kde3.5
[12:21] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> but most should know apt-get update is necessary
[12:21] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[12:21] <Red_Herring> sorry about that
[12:21] <nalioth> cplusplus: why does it do what?
[12:22] <cplusplus> i used apt.get updatet before
[12:22] <Red_Herring> my parents disabled the wireless router, so im at my neighbors ap now ;-)
[12:22] <cplusplus> without manually entering the url
[12:23] <cplusplus> re_herring;)
[12:23] <cplusplus> does he have a fast connetion?;)
[12:23] <Red_Herring> same as mine
[12:23] <Red_Herring> just i get an AWEFUL connection
[12:23] <Red_Herring> oh well
[12:23] <cplusplus> how far away is he?
[12:23] <Red_Herring> its much better than nothing
[12:23] <Red_Herring> about oh... 50 ft
[12:24] <Red_Herring> but its through 2 brick walls
[12:24] <Red_Herring> maybe more
[12:24] <Red_Herring> i dont know where it is in their house
[12:24] <capotej> how can i change the background for konqueror
[12:24] <capotej> like when im in my home dir
[12:24] <cplusplus> does he use no encryption red_herring?
[12:24] <Red_Herring> no one here does
[12:24] <Red_Herring> not at all
[12:24] <cplusplus> wep encryption?
[12:24] <Red_Herring> nope
[12:25] <cplusplus> is not secure
[12:25] <Red_Herring> true
[12:25] <cplusplus> another?
[12:25] <Red_Herring> but i think 2 sites on my entire block have a wep encrryption
[12:25] <LeeJunFan> bimberi: :p
[12:25] <Red_Herring> no one at all has WPA
[12:26] <Red_Herring> LeeJunFan: dapper is too in the development stage to upgrade now for a useable desktop
[12:27] <dell500> just wondering, but how do i get mpg files to work in kaffiene?
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: I'm not too worried about that, it's the journey to dapper from breezy that scares me more than the destination.
[12:27] <LeeJunFan> wonder how deps will be.
[12:27] <Red_Herring> LeeJunFan: as of now... i cant say how bad the upgrade is... but when dapper is released, there will be no problem upgrading
[12:28] <capotej> anyone in here use tcsh
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> LeeJunFan: simple question.. simple answer.. if you are bold, and you want to be at the bleeding edge of kubuntu, etc. Then the pre-release of dapper would suit you, otherwise, wait with the rest of the pack
[12:29] <hatake_kakashi> s/of/on
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> Like I said - devel version doesn't scare me - I've got a backup partition that is a mirror of my current working, I'm just wondering if I should try dist-upgrade or install from scratch.
[12:30] <LeeJunFan> So I don't waste my time with dist only to have to install after anyway.
[12:31] <Red_Herring> oh... well i would personally say to do a clean install
[12:31] <ninnghizidha> is there a way to turn the documents-Folder ON without slecting it as prefered folder in dialogs?
[12:31] <Red_Herring> because a lot of the develo[ment going into the install stuff
[12:31] <Red_Herring> well... gotta run
[12:32] <Lonely> Hello everyone.  Would anyone care to take a few seconds to help me setup  my internet connection - both ethernet and wifi?
[12:33] <Lonely> This is my third day on linux, and I am a little overwhelmed :)
[12:33] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: ask away.
[12:34] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: first thing - what do you have for wifi in your linux machine?
[12:35] <Lonely> Hey lee:  Ok first things first.  Thank you for offering help, and please bare with my stupidity.  It took me 20 min to figure out what and where terminal was.   Right now I am on my mac, sitting right beside my linux box.  The wifi thing Im using is a DLINK DWL-G122 USB dongle.
[12:35] <Lonely> It does not seem to be recognized by my linux box
[12:36] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: well, I've never used usb wireless on linux. And that's why, I know usb wireless support is really poor :(
[12:36] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  Perhaps you can help me set up the ethernet connection then?
[12:36] <SpentCasing> i have a bizzarre problem
[12:37] <Lonely> I don't mean to intrude.  I understand if you are busy or have your own stuff to deal with :)  I wont be offended at all
[12:37] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: yeah, I can help with that.
[12:37] <SpentCasing> when i load a live cd on my laptop WLANconfig works once, then not at all
[12:37] <SpentCasing> meaning any restart from there on
[12:38] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  Ok well, I have plugged my ethernet cord from my router directly into my linux box.  But that does not give me internet access
[12:38] <SpentCasing> is something saving on my RAM and conflicting?
[12:38] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  Is there something I should do or type in the terminal?
[12:38] <vipersniper> im trying to install kubuntu on my toshiba satellite 5200 and it just hangs during install with no error
[12:38] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: if you are at the shell/konsole and you type 'ifconfig' can you see eth0 listed?
[12:39] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  i do not see eth0 listed
[12:40] <vipersniper> how can i see whats causing the error
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> crap, that's not good at all. It may be that the kernel doesn't support your ethernet card either.
[12:40] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: try 'lspci | grep net' and see what kind of ethernet controll you have.
[12:41] <Lonely> That can't be the case - It had worked yesterday after I typed something like "dhclient eth0" in the terminal
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: doh, sorry - try this 'ifconfig -a'
[12:41] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: and see if eth0 is there.
[12:42] <Lonely> LeeJunFan: eth0 is not listed there, but it does list realtek semiconducter co. rtl-8029(as)
[12:43] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: hrm, seems like it did not load your module/driver.
[12:43] <Lonely> LeeJunFan: how do I go about fixing this problem?
[12:43] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  I know it works because someone was able to get it to work last night.  I just dont understand why it didnt work fine today
[12:44] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: dhclient eth0 doesn't work now does it?
[12:44] <vipersniper> any ideas
[12:45] <Lonely> LeeJunFan: let me try.  one second please
[12:45] <Lonely> LeeJunFan: no it does not :(
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: need to get it to load your network module, but I don't know the name for the rtl8029, that may be it actually.
[12:46] <shwag> what is the port limit where things change from system services to user services?
[12:46] <LeeJunFan> just a sec, I'll check a server that has an ubuntu kernel, my laptop doesn't.
[12:47] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  Sure thing, thank you :)
[12:47] <Red_Herring> wow, my parents are pissed at me :-)
[12:48] <SpentCasing> when i load a live cd on my laptop WLANconfig works once, then not at all
[12:48] <SpentCasing> is something saving on my RAM and conflicting?
[12:48] <Red_Herring> what livecd, dapper or breezy?
[12:49] <SpentCasing> well not ubuntu, its auditor, but it seems like a generic problem (sorry)
[12:49] <Red_Herring> oh
[12:49] <Red_Herring> well, if its a livecd, it may be a specific problem
[12:49] <SpentCasing> a burnt another copy and the same thing happened
[12:49] <Red_Herring> and what do you mean, WLANconfig?
[12:50] <Red_Herring> a graphical program?
[12:50] <SpentCasing> ya
[12:50] <SpentCasing> itd ask essid, channel, WEP key
[12:50] <Red_Herring> well, what wireless card do you have?
[12:50] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: try this 'sudo modprobe ne2k-pci'
[12:50] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: then dhclient eth0
[12:50] <SpentCasing> actually its DHCP when trying to find an ip
[12:50] <shwag> what are some common services or protocols that use UDP ?
[12:51] <Lonely> LeeJunFan:  I got it to work :)
[12:51] <Lonely> thank you soo much!
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: don't go yet.
[12:51] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: that won't last past a reboot - let's make it permanent.
[12:51] <Lonely> hey, let me login fromo the linux box
[12:51] <Lonely> brb
[12:51] <Lonely> :)
[12:52] <Red_Herring> where do i get the new java?
[12:52] <Red_Herring> !java
[12:52] <Red_Herring> !javasdk1.5
[12:52] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[12:52] <ubotu> Red_Herring: I don't know, could you explain it?
[12:53] <Red_Herring> whoah, lagging there
[12:53] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: first - make sure the module gets loaded on next reboot 'sudo echo ne2k-pci >> /etc/modules'
[12:54] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: that will append ne2k-pci to /etc/modules which is a list of modules that will be loaded on every boot. Kind of a forced loading for things that don't get autoloaded.
[12:55] <Lonely> wait wait
[12:55] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: then 'sudo nano /etc/network/interfaces' to edit the config file for your network interfaces, you need to make sure there's a line 'auto eth0' and another 'iface eth0 inet dhcp'
[12:56] <Lonely> you're brain is working faster than I can type, friend :D
[12:56] <Lonely> SLow down for me
[12:56] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: well, that's all there is to it, so ...
[12:56] <Red_Herring> i got a question somewhat related...
[12:56] <Red_Herring> anyone up for it?
[12:56] <Red_Herring> LeeJunFan?
[12:57] <Red_Herring> im lagging now, so bear with me
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> someday I should take the time to try to act like a n00b so I can learn more of what GUI utils kubuntu offers for system config stuff. I do too much from the command line.
[12:57] <Lonely> sudo echo ne2k-pci>>/etc/modules I get permission denied
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: go for it.
[12:57] <Red_Herring> ok
[12:57] <LeeJunFan> Lonely: did it ask you for a password?
[12:57] <Lonely> no
[12:57] <Lonely> it just said permission denied
[12:58] <LeeJunFan> hrm, sudo should have. What if you type 'sudo -i'
[12:58] <Red_Herring> my brother has an old 400mhz laptop, so i but the base of ubuntu on it and installed xfce, everything works, except the wireless card only accepts MAC addresses for access points
[12:58] <Lonely> i get a password popup
[12:58] <Red_Herring> what do i do so that it automatically assigns teh wireless card the right MAC address
[12:59] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: wow, that's old school too. Used to have to do that before 802.11b when it was just 802.11
[12:59] <Red_Herring> nah, its just a bad driver
[12:59] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: how do you tell it to join now? iwconfig?
[12:59] <Red_Herring> yup
[12:59] <Red_Herring> i cant now
[12:59] <Lonely> lee: let me brb.  I think my wife is having a small emergency in the kitchen :)
[12:59] <Red_Herring> my dad disabled wireless
[01:00] <Red_Herring> (neighbor's internet, ;-) remember)
[01:00] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: should be something like iwconfig nwid [mac addr of AP] 
[01:00] <Red_Herring> i know that
[01:00] <cplusplus> any idea re_herring: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qWPWFs41.html ?
[01:00] <Red_Herring> but how do i automatically do that at startup?
[01:00] <cplusplus> a package is not found...
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: anyway, when you can - you can edit /etc/network/interfaces and under the iface [dev]  line add 'wireless-nwid [mac addr] '
[01:01] <Red_Herring> hmmmm
[01:01] <Red_Herring> right under wlan0?
[01:01] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: yeah.
[01:01] <Red_Herring> interesting
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: you can do any iwconfig opts there by prepending 'wireless-' to them.
[01:02] <Red_Herring> really?
[01:02] <Red_Herring> so i could add wireless-iwconfig wlan0 ap 00:00...
[01:02] <aeon17x> How do I get an app to launch on startup on Kubuntu?
[01:03] <Red_Herring> right below iface wlan0?
[01:03] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: it would just be 'wireless-ap ...'
[01:03] <Red_Herring> well...
[01:03] <Red_Herring> is wireless-ap a command?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: no, iwconfig ap is. wireless is just telling the ifup command to use iwconfig.
[01:04] <Red_Herring> i dont want to try it, lest it disconnects me from my neighbor's ap and i lose you
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: for instance in mine I have 'wireless-essid myessid' under iface ath1
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: didn't you steal Shaggy's bicycle ? :p
[01:09] <aeon17x> How do I get an app to launch on startup on Kubuntu?
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: a kde app?
[01:10] <aeon17x> Something like a script.
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: or any GUI app I should say.
[01:10] <aeon17x> I'm trying to get the BOINC client to run on startup.
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: well, the proper way is to write an initscript, but the cheap and fast way is to create a dir /etc/rc.boot and put your script in there, don't suffix it with .sh or it won't work.
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: and remember to chmod +x it :)
[01:12] <aeon17x> I don't have root access.
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: as in just not now - or not allowed to have it ever?
[01:13] <aeon17x> Just not now.
[01:13] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: sudo mkdir /etc/rc.boot
[01:13] <capotej> whats the difference between all the kernel images in adept
[01:13] <capotej> i searched for linux-image
[01:13] <capotej> and theres like 5 686 kernels with the same version
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: then write your script in your home dir, sudo chmod +x [scriptname] , sudo cp [scriptname]  /etc/rc.boot/.
[01:15] <aeon17x> Like I said, I don't have root access.
[01:15] <aeon17x> I have to ask for it first.
[01:15] <aeon17x> Don't we have a way to just add it like in Sessions in GNOME Ubuntu?
[01:16] <cplusplus> any idea red_herring: http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qWPWFs41.html ?
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: yeah, put the script in ${HOME}/.kde/Autostart
[01:16] <Red_Herring> so then...
[01:16] <Red_Herring> all i type is wireless-ap 00:...?
[01:17] <aeon17x> It's not executing... it's opening with Kate. =/
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: did you start the script with #!/bin/sh? and did you sudo chmod +x it?
[01:19] <aeon17x> It's not really a script.
[01:19] <aeon17x> Or maybe it is, whatever.
[01:20] <aeon17x> Its name is run_client.
[01:20] <aeon17x> And it only contains one line - cd "/home/aeon17x/BOINC" && exec ./boinc $@
[01:20] <cplusplus> hm whats wrong here? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/qWPWFs41.html
[01:21] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: that's fine, but you need to start any script with #! and the path to it's interpreter, which in this case would be bash or /bin/sh.
[01:22] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: if you were writing a perl script it would be #!/usr/bin/perl, etc...
[01:22] <aeon17x> I didn't write it, it came with the Linux BOINC client.
[01:22] <ninnghizidha> you need not to do this.
[01:23] <ninnghizidha> it works fine without it too... well .. for sh at least
[01:23] <LeeJunFan> ninnghizidha: the snake god or some such thing right?
[01:23] <ninnghizidha> something like that, congrats.
[01:24] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: right , but you need to put #!/bin/sh at the top, above the cd ...
[01:25] <starhawk> I am having trouble with Hibernation it wont let me wake it up any one run into this before
[01:25] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: or perhaps it will work okay w/o like ninnghizidha said, but you still have to chmod +x run_client
[01:26] <aeon17x> It already is executable.
[01:27] <LeeJunFan> aeon17x: well, running from within bash may not need the #!/bin/sh at the top, but perhaps kde does.
[01:32] <aeon17x> Well, I think I did it by just creating a link to the script instead.
[01:40] <starhawk>  I am having trouble with Hibernation it wont let me wake it up any one run into this before
[01:50] <aeon17x> How do I get kdm to be the default display manager?
[01:52] <bimberi> aeon17x: sudo dpkg-reconfigure kdm   (a bit of a guess)
[01:52] <aeon17x> I'm not typing in a sudo command unless I know what it does. >_>
[01:52] <fusionfox> lol
[01:53] <fusionfox> reconfigures kdm???
[01:53] <fusionfox> =P
[01:53] <aeon17x> Found it - sudo update-alternatives --config x-window-manager
[01:53] <aeon17x> Now I have to log out to see if it works. Later.
[01:57] <capotej> what file dictates the default kernel booted by ubuntu
[01:57] <capotej>  /etc/grub.conf/
[01:57] <capotej> ?
[01:58] <Knowerrors> capotej: "/boot/grub/menu.lst"
[01:59] <capotej> thanks
[02:04] <aeon17x> Ok, it didn't work like I expected. =/
[02:05] <aeon17x> I thought I'd see a Kubuntu login screen, not the Ubuntu one.
[02:07] <robc> jh
[02:08] <Elsan_> Can anyone help me with this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085.0 ?
[02:13] <Knowerrors> Anyone know how to change the dpi of X? Mine is set at 81 and I want it to be 96
[02:16] <shwag> since TCP is commonly called TCP/IP...does that mean that UDP is also UDP/IP ?
[02:16] <_grigory> apt-get update
[02:16] <_grigory> freezes
[02:17] <_grigory> grigory@greg:~$ sudo apt-get update
[02:17] <_grigory> Get:1 http://kubuntu.org breezy Release.gpg [189B] 
[02:17] <_grigory> Get:2 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release.gpg [189B] 
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://kubuntu.org breezy Release
[02:17] <_grigory> Get:3 http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security Release [19.6kB] 
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://kubuntu.org breezy/main Packages
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Packages
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Packages
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/main Sources
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/restricted Sources
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Packages
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Packages
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/universe Sources
[02:17] <_grigory> Hit http://security.ubuntu.com breezy-security/multiverse Sources
[02:17] <_grigory> 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.53)] 
[02:17] <_grigory> ouch
[02:17] <_grigory> my bad. so, it freezes at 99% [Connecting to ca.archive.ubuntu.com (206.75.218.53)] 
[02:17] <_grigory> at my friend's comp too
[02:17] <_grigory> is it just server's problem?
[02:18] <Knowerrors> try without the ca.
[02:18] <Knowerrors> just so it says archive.ubuntu.com
[02:18] <_grigory> ok, sec, ill edit .source
[02:19] <bimberi> _grigory: probably, you could change the mirror (eg remove ca.) (also please don't paste so much)
[02:19] <Knowerrors> do that with all of the lines in your apt list
[02:19] <capotej> how do i install .deb from command line
[02:19] <bimberi> !deb
[02:19] <ubotu> To install a deb: sudo dpkg -i filename.deb
[02:19] <capotej> thank you
[02:19] <bimberi> yw :)
[02:19] <_grigory> thanks, sorry about copy-paste
[02:21] <bushito> how can i make a command assume all answer yes?
[02:21] <_grigory> whee, working
[02:23] <Xemanth^^> its one of the easiest thing to install deb package, why cant people just dpkg --help
[02:23] <Xemanth^^> or just google debian package install
[02:23] <Xemanth^^> and select first link
[02:24] <_grigory> i try to open .rpm file
[02:24] <_grigory> with Kpackage
[02:24] <_grigory> it says that the file couldn't be open
[02:24] <_grigory> (Limewire)
[02:24] <_grigory> how else can i install it?
[02:25] <bimberi> !limewire
[02:25] <ubotu> well, limewire is first you need !java, then download the http://www.limewire.com/LimeWireSoftOther and unpack it. Then just run the runLime.sh file. Voila.
[02:25] <bimberi> !java
[02:25] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[02:26] <_grigory> oh, thanks
[02:26] <bimberi> _grigory: np :)
[02:27] <bimberi> _grigory: btw rpm is a different package format - ubuntu works with .deb .  That said, there is a way to install rpm packages using "alien"
[02:28] <_grigory> !alien
[02:28] <ubotu> [alien]  a program to convert RPMs to DEBs. Can give problems. Website: http://www.kitenet.net/programs/alien/
[02:32] <Phoenix1701> Hey folks; new Kubuntu user here having trouble with sound...  namely, I can't hear any.
[02:33] <Phoenix1701> I have an onboard sound chip that I'm convinced may be broken, but I'm not sure how to get Kubuntu to use the PCI sound card I subsequently installed.
[02:33] <Knowerrors> !dpi
[02:33] <ubotu> Bugger all, i dunno, Knowerrors
[02:33] <Phoenix1701> Can anyone give me any hints as to how I might go about setting up ALSA or something else to use this card?
[02:34] <bimberi> Phoenix1701: there's some ubotu factoids which might help ...
[02:34] <bimberi> !sound
[02:34] <ubotu> it has been said that sound is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingSoundProblems or http://wiki.ubuntu.com/SoundProblemsHoary
[02:34] <bimberi> !alsa
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... alsa is http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=32063, see also !dmix
[02:34] <sampan> phoenix1701  i'm not a sound expert, but basics first. did you disable the onboard sound in BIOS? and have you clicked on the mixer (speaker icon in your panel) and made sure that main sound isn't muted?
[02:34] <bimberi> !dmix
[02:34] <ubotu> hmm... dmix is first try system>prefrences>multimedia system selector change it to alsa. for oss application type aoss <appl name> if still have problems then http://alsa.opensrc.org/index.php?page=DmixPlugin
[02:34] <Phoenix1701> bimberi: Thanks!  I hadn't found those links yet.
[02:35] <Phoenix1701> sampan: I have done the latter, but I'm not sure if I saw any options in the BIOS.  I can certainly check again.
[02:35] <bimberi> Phoenix1701: np :)
[02:35] <sampan> phoenix1701  my onboard sound was buried like 5 menus deep in my bios -- actually had to read the manual to find where it was lol ;x
[02:35] <sampan> so i can sympathize
[02:35] <nikita> Hi guys =) I have some problems with my kubuntu =) sometimes when i install apllications (last time it happened to the macromedia flash player) my screen covers with colored scratches, so i cannot see/read anything. i think that's the problem with the video card, can anybody advise me how to fix that?
[02:36] <shawkins> nikita are you using dapper or breezy?
[02:37] <Phoenix1701> sampan: I'll give that a look.  aplay -l shows me all sorts of lovely subdevices and whatnot for "sound card 1" (where 0 is presumably the onboard sound), but I don't know how to configure KDE to use that card...
[02:37] <nikita> shawkins i'm not pretty sure =/ this is like my first day on kubuntu
[02:37] <shawkins> nikita: ok, well may I ask as to if you know the video card?
[02:38] <Phoenix1701> I tried manually setting the ALSA driver in KDE's Sound System preferences to /dev/audio1, but it claimed there was no such file or directory even though I was staring straight at it.
[02:40] <nikita> shawkins NVIDIA forsa
[02:40] <sampan> phoenix1701  hrmmm ... i'm not sure either.  aplay -l shows me only my sb card as device 0 (the disabled onboard doesn't show up at all) though.
[02:40] <nikita> shawkins: hold on, it's GeForce  FX 5800, sorry
[02:40] <shawkins> nikita: Well I can't say a whole lot... not logged in kubuntu, but open up synaptic, and search for 'NVIDIA'
[02:41] <sampan> yep ... i disabled it in bios and next boot all was well
[02:41] <shawkins> nikita: well I think there is a driver needed for that card, though I may be wrong, search for GeForce then.... and see if you can find something for that video cad
[02:41] <shawkins> *video card
[02:42] <nikita> shawkins: okey, will try to do that, thanks a lot =)
[02:42] <sampan> actually the onboard worked too, but i wanted multichannel hardware mixing (all sounds from all apps at the same time) without having to fiddle with software mixing settings -- so i flopped an 8 or 9 year old sblive card in there and it worked flawlessly from the get go. (got lucky for a change)
[02:44] <Phoenix1701> Hmm...  okay, I'll give it a shot and see if that helps.  I just wish I wasn't quite so ignorant on how to configure anything; I keep seeing things like alsamixer and aplay and lspci and modprobe, and have no idea how these things could help solve my problem.
[02:44] <nikita> shawkins: the only question is: what's synaptic? =)))))) sorry, i'm pretty new to the terminology =(
[02:44] <shawkins> ok wait..
[02:44] <shawkins> forgot.. you are using kubuntu.. not ubuntu..
[02:44] <shawkins> I think its called adept
[02:44] <shawkins> *I think*
[02:44] <sampan> phoenix1701  hehehe i hear that -- sound stuff baffles me on linux too.  too many choices and i get all lost
[02:44] <Phoenix1701> shawkins: You're correct.
[02:44] <nikita> shawkins: yeah, i know that stuff
[02:45] <nikita> shawkins: thanks =)
[02:45] <shawkins> ok, well open it up and search with it
[02:45] <Phoenix1701> Well, I'm going to fiddle with the BIOS for a bit then, and if it doesn't work I'll come back.  :)
[02:45] <Phoenix1701> Thanks for the help!
[02:45] <sampan> good luck
[02:45] <orion_fr_24> hi i m looking for a way to install flash support
[02:46] <sampan> !flash
[02:46] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[02:46] <sampan> ubotu tell orion_fr_24 about restrictedformats
[02:47] <sampan> bah -- sorry about that orion_fr_24 -- i didn't think the bot was going to just give the same thing twice
[02:48] <_grigory> has anyone tried configuring TV-Out on some ati video card
[02:48] <_grigory> ?
[02:48] <_grigory> i installed atitvout
[02:48] <_grigory> and it says that my TV is enabled, although the image on it is screwed up
[02:48] <_grigory> i tried switching from PAL to NTSC
[02:48] <_grigory> no result
[02:49] <_grigory> any suggestions?
[02:49] <captainbraille> Hi, I'm using Ubuntu 5.1, I just downloaded "kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso" and it's a 640.5 mb file, right? What program should I use to check for errors?
[02:50] <ftg2> _grigory: write ati and tell them how disatisifeid you are with their linux support :(
[02:50] <ftg2> _grigory: sorry, i actually don't know
[02:50] <_grigory> i should do that actually
[02:50] <orion_fr_24> sampan: how do you the bot ?
[02:51] <sampan> ubotu tell orion_fr_24 about yourself
[02:51] <sampan> orion_fr_24  follow the link in ubotu's msg ;)
[02:52] <captainbraille> sampan, lol
[02:52] <Elsan_> Can anyone help me with this: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3085.0 ?
[02:52] <sampan> lol
[02:52] <orion_fr_24> sampan: ubuto does not tell me anything
[02:52] <sampan> orion_fr_24  he sent you msgs i'm sure
[02:52] <sampan> check for a tab with his nick on it (assuming you're using a GUI irc client)
[02:53] <orion_fr_24> sampan: hoo yes sorry
[02:53] <sampan> orion_fr_24  in any case, for your flash issue, you should try the wiki at: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats
[02:55] <captainbraille> okay, so why use latest Ubuntu / Kubuntu over SuSE 10.0?
[02:55] <sampan> !start a distro war
[02:55] <ubotu> NO SPEAKE ENLISH!, sampan
[02:55] <sampan> doh!
[02:56] <sampan> captainbraille  this channel and #ubuntu -- reason enough
[02:56] <kkathman> howdy sampan :)
[02:56] <sampan> hey kkathman :)
[02:57] <kkathman> I can certainly talk to the SuSE issue
[02:57] <kkathman> since I run both :)
[02:57] <captainbraille> sampan, Haha okay
[02:57] <sampan> ubuntu*
[02:58] <kkathman> I run them both, they are both good...(k)ubuntu is much easier to run, and its much faster.  Suse is more graphical, and uses RPMs, which there are fewer packages available
[02:59] <_grigory> if my friend has dynamic ip (mine is 'real'), is there any way i can connect to his desktop ?
[02:59] <_nate> k, my kubuntu boots up into tty1 instead of tty7, is there a way to change this behavior? (tty7 had kdm running, so i have to press ctrl+alt+f7 to get to it every boot)
[02:59] <kkathman> other than that, if you use KDE, the desktops are the same of course
[02:59] <_grigory> using 'sharing desktops'
[02:59] <_nate> _grigory: look into Dynamic DNS
[02:59] <captainbraille> kkathman, sounds good. I'm brand new to linux, and am going back and forth on what I want to use =\
[02:59] <_nate> _grigory: might find what you're looking for there
[02:59] <kkathman> SUSE is very difficult to find repos, I think...and the user community is not near as friendly or accessible
[03:00] <_grigory> _nate: another question - what is Dynamic DNS and how do i look there? :)
[03:00] <kkathman> captainbraille:  I dual boot and use both actually
[03:00] <_nate> _grigory: open up a web browser and go to www.google.com
[03:00] <_grigory> oohh
[03:00] <_grigory> ok, thanks :)
[03:00] <_nate> np :D
[03:00] <_grigory> =) need more sleep
[03:01] <starhawk> hi
[03:01] <captainbraille> kkathman: how do I check the iso file for kubuntu for faults?
[03:01] <_nate> hehe
[03:01] <kkathman> captainbraille:  on the mirrors, there should be an MD5 checksum
[03:02] <kkathman> captainbraille:  you mean the install disk right?
[03:02] <sampan> captainbraille  about 6-8 months i was exactly where you are. i bounced around from distro to distro.  (k)ubuntu did it for me: easy of use, centralized repos with easy to use repository listing, a gadzillion packages, apt-get (much better than any rpm system i tried), and a super-helpful (and new user-friendly) community -- truly these channels are a HUGE reason to use ubuntu imo (i wasn't really kidding when i said that)
[03:02] <starhawk> I am having trouble with hibernation once in hibernation I cant get out without shutting down I am new to kubunta
[03:02] <captainbraille> kkathman: ohh, okay let me check, thanks, yeah the install disc
[03:03] <_nate> so, anyone know how to change the default tty?
[03:03] <_grigory> sampan: people here are very helpful
[03:03] <captainbraille> sampan: so there is hope for me still? haha, yeah I've noticed people here are great
[03:03] <_nate> mine is booting into tty1 instead of tty7, where kdm is running
[03:03] <_nate> no one?
[03:03] <sampan> captainbraille  yep -- lots of hope :)  as long as you aren't afraid to ask questions, people here are always willing to help in my experience
[03:04] <kkathman> captainbraille: there is nothing wrong in trying distros...I tried fedora, RH9, libranet, mandrake, DSL, and slack before settling down on SuSE and Kubuntu
[03:05] <kkathman> captainbraille: one thing, is that you'll learn alot very quickly with (k)ubuntu, that will spill over into your use of other distros
[03:05] <sampan> my list was: mandrake, mandriva, vectorlinux, mepis, knoppix, pclinuxos ... then ubuntu/kubuntu (hoary)
[03:06] <captainbraille> kkathman: wow, I haven't even heard of some of those! That'll be great, I want to learn how to use this.
[03:06] <_paul> hello all
[03:07] <starhawk> I am having trouble with hibernation once in hibernation I cant get out without shutting down I am new to kubunta
[03:07] <captainbraille> sampan: when using K3B, I'm trying to burn the so file, is there anything "special" I need to do to burn it? Or just "drag-and-burn"?
[03:08] <paul_nz> captainbraille: did you get an error when trying to burn?
[03:08] <starhawk> goto tools and burn as iso
[03:08] <_grigory> i tried burning DVDs with K3b - worked fine, nothing special, i just all the advance options default
[03:09] <captainbraille> paul_nz: nope no errors
[03:09] <captainbraille> starhawk: okay, got it, thanks
[03:10] <starhawk> cool
[03:10] <starhawk> your the first one I helped
[03:10] <captainbraille> starhawk: lol
[03:10] <starhawk> me too
[03:10] <paul_nz> is it bad nettique to past like 20 lines of errors for you's to help me?
[03:10] <sampan> captainbraille  yep starhawk's got it right :) (sorry was reading some news)
[03:11] <_nate> so....anyone know how to change the default tty?
[03:11] <sampan> paul_nz  post it at pastebin and then provide a link with your question
[03:11] <_nate> before I meltdown?
[03:11] <sampan> !pastebin
[03:11] <ubotu> rumour has it, pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[03:12] <paul_nz> in that case - http://pastebin.com/521698
[03:12] <sampan> sorry _nate_ -- if i knew i'd have answered (which is much the same for anyone in here i think) -- but sooner or later someone who knows the answer will see it i bet
[03:12] <paul_nz> yet 1/2 the packages are already installed (i checked in synaptic) and the other half are not available in synaptic
[03:12] <captainbraille> sampan: np
[03:13] <_nate> sampan: thanks for replying at least :D
[03:13] <sampan> sure :)  sometimes it just takes patience till someone who knows a specific area wanders in
[03:14] <_nate> ya, i know
[03:14] <_grigory> _nate
[03:14] <_grigory> about Dynamic DNS
[03:14] <_nate> i asked on gentoo and they snapped on me
[03:14] <_grigory> will it work if i cant even ping my friend's comp ?
[03:14] <_nate> _grigory: yeah?  Well, you have to poke a hole in his firewall....
[03:14] <_nate> _grigory: does he have control over it?
[03:15] <_grigory> he doesn't even have a firewall
[03:15] <_nate> _grigory: and you can't ping him?
[03:15] <_nate> _grigory: that makes very little sense to me, but i may not be understanding
[03:15] <_grigory> yeah, i can't
[03:15] <_grigory> well
[03:16] <_grigory> i might have said that wrong... not sure how its called
[03:16] <_grigory> i cant 'see' his IP
[03:16] <_grigory> meaning its not 'real'
[03:16] <_nate> so he's behind a router?
[03:16] <_nate> and has a private address?
[03:17] <_grigory> well, yes, that the only possibility i can see
[03:17] <_grigory> is there some software for linux, like remotelyAnywhere?
[03:17] <_grigory> oh, wait, ill have same problem there
[03:17] <_nate> _grigory: first, everyone who can use the internet to retrieve anything has an ip address
[03:18] <_grigory> yeah.
[03:18] <_nate> on his machine he has one that gets translated to an actual one
[03:18] <_nate> once it goes through his router (thats the simple version)
[03:18] <_grigory> ok, so how do i reach his comp. then?
[03:18] <_nate> so you need to set up what is know as 'port forwarding' on his router
[03:19] <_grigory> uhuh
[03:19] <_nate> so find out what kind of router he has, and google it with 'port forwarding' and you should find how to set it up on that specific brand
[03:19] <starhawk> I am having trouble with hibernation once in hibernation I cant get out without shutting down I am new to kubunta
[03:19] <_nate> KDE has kRDC
[03:19] <_grigory> im just wondering, how do i find that out...
[03:19] <_nate> _grigory: ask him?
[03:20] <_grigory> :) ok... lets do that
[03:21] <_nate> _grigory: and have him set up the port forwarding
[03:21] <_nate> and set up the same for yourself
[03:21] <nikita> shawkins: sorry, that i didn't answer u, i'm not registered yet, so now private msgs. i think it works =)
[03:21] <shawkins> yeah, no worries
[03:21] <_nate> but you need to check out krdc to see what ports it uses
[03:21] <shawkins> I figured as much right after I typed you a message
[03:21] <_nate> _grigory: btw, krdc is VERY insecure
[03:22] <_nate> _grigory: a little thing on secure remote desktop: http://www.linuxwannabe.org/guides/archives/14-Secure-Remote-Desktop-VNC-over-SSH.html#extended
[03:23] <captainbraille> alright here it goes, I should be back ;)
[03:23] <captainbraille> thanks for the help!
[03:23] <starhawk> I am having trouble with hibernation once in hibernation I cant get out without shutting down I am new to kubunta
[03:23] <_grigory> _nate: thanks for the link
[03:24] <_grigory> it all sounds a little time-requiring, I'll look into it tomorrow then.
[03:24] <_nate> _grigory: yeah, its worth doing right though
[03:24] <coaxial> silly question.. I can't find the min. system requirements of ubuntu/kubuntu, other than a reference to 32mb ram.
[03:25] <coaxial> I'm hoping (barely) to run gnome on a p166/32mb ram
[03:25] <Delvien> hey guys i just installed kubuntu-desktop, and my touchpad is slow as hell now any fix?
[03:26] <_grigory> _nate: yeah, besides i was looking for a way to remotely control my comp. from school's windows2k machines, that article should help
[03:26] <_nate> coaxial: kde / gnome might run a little slow
[03:26] <_nate> _grigory: indeed
[03:26] <grim76> freenx
[03:26] <grim76> works over ssh very secure
[03:26] <coaxial> slow is fine.. this is for a "walltop" (laptop guts in a picture frame)
[03:26] <_nate> sortof
[03:27] <coaxial> maybe ubuntu isn't the lightest livecd X distro around
[03:27] <_grigory> can you guys suggest _good_ websites with info on remotely administrating linux system? commands, protocols, all that stuff
[03:28] <_nate> coaxial: its not, but you could try out ubuntu with xfce or another windowmanager, then it should run fine on that pc
[03:28] <nalioth> ubotu: tell coaxial about xubuntu
[03:28] <Delvien> hey guys i just installed kubuntu-desktop, and my touchpad is slow as hell now any fix?
[03:28] <starhawk> I am having trouble with hibernation once in hibernation I cant get out without shutting down I am new to kubunta
[03:28] <_nate> _grigory: not too many people know this about google, it has a linux search engine: http://www.google.com/linux
[03:29] <_grigory> oh, wow
[03:29] <_grigory> never seen that before
[03:29] <_nate> starhawk: suspend, standby, and hibernation are very much under development, i wouldn't count on it working properly, but i wish you luck
[03:29] <_nate> _grigory: yeah, its pretty cool huh?
[03:30] <starhawk> how do I turn it off
[03:30] <_grigory> yeah, works nicely!
[03:30] <_nate> starhawk: click the k menu, click log out, select shutdown computer
[03:30] <starhawk> #_natehow do I turn it off
[03:31] <_nate> starhawk: or do you mean turn off hibernation?
[03:31] <starhawk> turn off hibernation lol
[03:31] <_nate> starhawk: KMenu>System Settings>Laptops & Power
[03:32] <_nate> starhawk: dig around in there, maybe you can even fix your problem
[03:32] <starhawk> ok then what
[03:33] <_nate> starhawk: click Laptop Battery on the left, then click the right arrow on the top right to go to the last tab
[03:33] <_nate> starhawk: the last tab lets you enable/disable those features
[03:35] <GameOver69> hey guys problem... i just updated kubuntu to kde 3.5... and now my nvidia graphics card doesnt work... it wont get into the system,,, i get a ton of errors and am in hte terminal
[03:35] <GameOver69> can anyone help me to fix the nvidia drivers
[03:35] <Delvien> hey guys i just installed kubuntu-desktop, and my touchpad is slow as hell now any fix?
[03:35] <Phoenix1701> By the way, anyone who was here before, I finally got sound working.
[03:35] <sampan> phoenix1701  what was the magic bullet?
[03:35] <Phoenix1701> I had to switch from ALSA to OSS and manually configure the device to /dev/dsp1 (not audio1 as I was thinking), but after all that it started working.
[03:36] <Phoenix1701> I couldn't do anything in the BIOS though; there was just a global toggle for audio, enabled or not.
[03:36] <GameOver69> anyone please... i cant get into kde :(
[03:36] <_nate> GameOver69: I'm workin on it
[03:36] <sampan> phoenix1701  ahhh, cool that you got it going!  :)  was the onboard /dev/dsp0  ?  (gonna try to remember this because we see onboard + card in here fairly regularly i think)
[03:37] <GameOver69> thanks _nate
[03:37] <Phoenix1701> It was just /dev/dsp
[03:38] <Phoenix1701> And I'm still not sure why it didn't work with ALSA.
[03:38] <Phoenix1701> But switching to OSS and setting up that device seemed to work -- in ALSA it complained there was no such device.
[03:38] <sampan> phoenix1701  cool :)  noted for future reference.  weird though about alsa
[03:38] <starhawk> Your computer seems to have a partial ACPI installation. ACPI was probably enabled, but some of the sub-options were not - you need to enable at least 'AC Adaptor' and 'Control Method Battery' and then rebuild your kernel. what dose this mean
[03:38] <Phoenix1701> Also, while I have everyone here (heh), anyone know why amaroK is crashing every five minutes?  :P
[03:39] <starhawk> I have a desk top
[03:40] <_nate> GameOver69: sudo apt-get --reinstall install nvidia-glx nvidia-settings && sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:40] <_nate> GameOver69: what nvidia card do you have?
[03:40] <_nate> GameOver69: thats important, before you do that
[03:40] <GameOver69> _nate, thank you i will try it as soon as i can get myself online.... i
[03:41] <GameOver69> _nate, i have an nvidia geforce 4 i believe
[03:41] <GameOver69> card from like 2002 or 2003 with 64mb of memory
[03:42] <_nate> GameOver69: ok, that should work then
[03:42] <GameOver69> i cant get online
[03:42] <_nate> GameOver69: you can attempt the 'sudo nvidia-glx-config enable' without being online
[03:42] <GameOver69> usualy dhclient in terminal does the trick
[03:42] <_nate> try it and reboot
[03:42] <_nate> GameOver69: sudo ifup <interface>
[03:43] <_nate> GameOver69: runnind dhclient without it up is useless
[03:43] <GameOver69> ok im RESTARTING right now with that last command u gave me... to see if it works
[03:43] <_nate> which command?
[03:44] <GameOver69> how come thsi is givin me a problem... i updated kde fine on this computer and i had the ati drivers installed
[03:44] <GameOver69> sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[03:44] <_nate> k
[03:44] <_nate> GameOver69: I dunno why its givin you probs
[03:44] <GameOver69> hey that command u gave me worked!
[03:45] <GameOver69> _nate nice goin
[03:45] <_nate> gg
[03:45] <_nate> :D
[03:45] <GameOver69> haha
[03:45] <GameOver69> question now..... how do i get my wireless to work on startup with ndiswrapper... i installed it propery and have it in my interfaces
[03:45] <GameOver69> but i always have to do dhclient wlan0 to get it to work
[03:46] <_nate> GameOver69: ummm, two ways to do it, either add a startup script to run what you just typed, or modify /etc/network/interfaces
[03:46] <GameOver69> well can you tell me the best way please
[03:47] <y_o_u> gameover69: did you modprobe it?
[03:47] <GameOver69> y_o_u, yes when i first installed it
[03:47] <_nate> GameOver69: best way is the latter one
[03:47] <GameOver69> _nate: ok can u guide me
[03:47] <y_o_u> gameover69: i think what nate is saying, adding it to the interfaces file is the best one
[03:48] <_nate> GameOver69: where you see mapping hotplug, add map wlan0
[03:48] <GameOver69> thats there
[03:48] <GameOver69> alaready
[03:49] <_nate> GameOver69: add 'iface wlan0 inet dhcp'
[03:50] <y_o_u> gameover69: i pastebin'ed my interfaces file at http://pastebin.com/521737 if you want to take a look. mine works great
[03:50] <GameOver69> ok ill try it
[03:50] <_nate> GameOver69: then below that, tab in one tab and add 'wireless-mode managed'
[03:51] <_nate> GameOver69: then below that add, tabbed in one tab, 'wireless-essid any'
[03:52] <GameOver69> i have a wep key on my network
[03:52] <GameOver69> does it matter
[03:52] <_nate> uhhh, yeah, but if you have that configured elsewhere it might not matter
[03:53] <GameOver69> i have a line thats wireless-key ********
[03:53] <GameOver69> and wirless essid and my network name
[03:53] <GameOver69> should i leave that and add what u have
[03:53] <_nate> ok, thats right
[03:53] <GameOver69> or get rid of it
[03:53] <_nate> leave that
[03:53] <GameOver69> and add what u have>
[03:53] <GameOver69> OR NO?
[03:53] <_nate> just add dhcp part
[03:54] <GameOver69> they should be tabbed in
[03:54] <_nate> well, go to http://pastebin.com/ and post your /etc/network/interfaces file
[03:54] <_nate> or i might break your junk
[03:54] <GameOver69> ok one sec
[03:55] <Phoenix1701> Is KDE 4.3.4 the newest version supported by Ubuntui?
[03:55] <GameOver69> i have to get on first with dhclient :) will take a while on that computer
[03:56] <_nate> heh
[03:56] <_nate> sudo ifup wlan0
[03:56] <GameOver69> ok posted 521743
[03:57] <GameOver69> pastbin.com/521743
[03:57] <GameOver69> u see it _nate?
[03:57] <Feldon> Anyone know if the mozilla-plugin-vlc work for Konqueror?
[03:58] <_nate> GameOver69: ya, but i found a better way
[03:58] <GameOver69> ok
[03:58] <_nate> GameOver69: Click KMenu>System Settings
[03:58] <_nate> GameOver69: then click Connections under Internet and Network
[03:59] <GameOver69> ok
[03:59] <_nate> GameOver69: click wireless network
[03:59] <_nate> click administrator mode, type in your password
[03:59] <_nate> then you should be able to do all your junk from there
[03:59] <Phoenix1701> And if so, would you recommend getting a newer version by enabling Universe?
[03:59] <Phoenix1701> Or would that be a Bad Idea?
[04:00] <GameOver69> _nate all i have is connection preferences
[04:00] <_nate> GameOver69: ack
[04:00] <_nate> Phoenix1701: well, its not officially supported, and some would say using any software that isn't supported is a bad idea
[04:01] <_nate> address 192.168.1.104
[04:01] <_nate> netmask 255.255.255.0
[04:01] <_nate> GameOver69: remove this from your /etc/network/interfaces file:
[04:02] <Phoenix1701> _nate: Indeed.  I might be one of those people, considering my experience with other Linux distros.
[04:02] <GameOver69> _nate: how come i dont have any connections button in iinternet and network?
[04:02] <_nate> GameOver69: then save and reboot
[04:02] <Phoenix1701> Let me put it this way: are there any really important new features in newer versions of KDE, and is anyone in this room using a version of KDE higher than 3.4.3?
[04:03] <_nate> GameOver69: i dunno, maybe you have strange hardware that linux doesn't like
[04:03] <GameOver69> _nate: nate it odnt see what u want me to take out
[04:03] <spstarr_home> hrm, what happened to hotplug in dapper?
[04:03] <spstarr_home> it appears, missing
[04:03] <_nate> Phoenix1701: important is relative
[04:03] <spstarr_home> the netlink stuff isn't finished yet?
[04:03] <_nate> GameOver69: look at your pastebin
[04:03] <sampan> phoenix1701  several people use 3.5 yes.  but unless you're dying for webcam support in kopete or some other 3.5 feature, there's no pressing reason to upgrade
[04:03] <sampan> i've stuck with 3.4.3 -- as have many others.
[04:03] <_nate> GameOver69: those two lines are below your wireless config
[04:05] <GameOver69> _nate: sorry if i sound reatrted but i dont see ur corrections
[04:05] <Phoenix1701> Okay then.  :)  That's enough of a recommendation for me.
[04:05] <Phoenix1701> Thanks
[04:05] <sampan> np
[04:05] <spstarr_home> according to the udev script (2) lines
[04:05] <spstarr_home> # It's all over netlink now -->       echo "" > /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug
[04:06] <spstarr_home> if its over netlink where's the userspace tool to load firmware devices ? :(
[04:06] <_nate> GameOver69: repost the contents of your /etc/network/interfaces then, i must be working from flawed data
[04:06] <spstarr_home> i cant use my wireless in dapper without it
[04:06] <spstarr_home> the hotplug package is depreciated?
[04:06] <Phoenix1701> I'm also sort of wondering why Adept seems to think I don't have KDE core packages installed.
[04:07] <Phoenix1701> This is with universe disabled, mind you.  It think kpager isn't installed, for example, and I'm honestly not sure what would happen if I installed it...
[04:07] <GameOver69> http://pastebin.com/521760
[04:08] <_nate> GameOver69: in that file, remove the two lines below: wireless-key **********
[04:08] <GameOver69> ok
[04:09] <GameOver69> _nate: reboot?
[04:09] <_nate> ya
[04:10] <GameOver69> _nate in the meantime... i have to use soundon all the time to get my sound working... anyway to get that working at boot up... i use the oss drivers
[04:10] <nikita> can anyone help me? when i was installing linux i chose russian language for the system as default which was my big mistake =) after that i went to the system settings and returned system back to english, but the problem is that the messages in console are still in russian. and some applications have some weird stuff (neither russian or english characters) instead of english letters (e.g.xmms). what can i do?
[04:11] <_nate> GameOver69: any reason for using oss?
[04:11] <Red_Herring> OSS!
[04:11] <Red_Herring> nvm
[04:11] <GameOver69> only works witht that
[04:12] <GameOver69> its cheap onboard sound card
[04:12] <_nate> wow
[04:12] <_nate> that really IS cheap
[04:12] <GameOver69> lol
[04:12] <GameOver69> _nate: hey listen it went to the terminal again
[04:12] <_nate> ummmmmm
[04:12] <GameOver69> _didnt even go into KDE
[04:12] <_nate> ugh
[04:12] <GameOver69> lol
[04:12] <Red_Herring> i like oss
[04:13] <Red_Herring> because doom3 and quake4 work best w/ it
[04:13] <Phoenix1701> I think I like OSS too, considering it actually works. l ol
[04:13] <Red_Herring> it doesnt work AT ALL with alsa
[04:13] <_nate> try running that command again:  sudo nvidia-glx-config enable
[04:13] <_nate> GameOver69: i guess
[04:13] <Red_Herring> _nate: i tried that for a while
[04:13] <_nate> Red_Herring: I know, wolfet needs oss too
[04:13] <Red_Herring> with my 6600gt, it didnt work
[04:13] <_nate> i use 6800 and mine works fine
[04:13] <Red_Herring> _nate: i dont needed, i just like it better
[04:14] <_nate> GameOver69: is that even a computer you're running that on?
[04:14] <GameOver69> haha
[04:14] <Red_Herring> it didnt work for me, i had to compile my own from nvidia's website
[04:14] <_nate> ouch
[04:14] <GameOver69> its an hp... old like 4 years or 5
[04:14] <_nate> wow
[04:14] <GameOver69> am 850 mhx
[04:14] <_nate> usually old hardware = well supported
[04:14] <GameOver69> amd 850mhz
[04:14] <Red_Herring> i have a debian server thats 700mhz!
[04:14] <_nate> and it has a geforce 4 in it?
[04:14] <Red_Herring> VERY OLD, and VERY well supported
[04:15] <Red_Herring> bbl
[04:15] <_nate> GameOver69: I dunno what to tell ya man, I actually have to go, i'm at work and i need to close up shop
[04:15] <GameOver69> alright thanks
[04:15] <GameOver69> the wireless doesnt work
[04:15] <GameOver69> btw
[04:15] <_nate> GameOver69: but a little tip, type 'dmesg | tail' at the command prompt
[04:15] <_nate> that will give you the last errors
[04:15] <_nate> so you can post the errors here or google them
[04:16] <_nate> i gtg though
[04:16] <_nate> later
[04:17] <sampan> phoenix1701  i think the reason adept shows that package as "not installed" is because you have a meta package (kubuntu-desktop) installed.  the meta package contains all those sub-packages (as dependencies) -- so kpager and all those other kde packages -are- there, just adept is showing you the metapackage
[04:17] <neko__> Hi. I need the sources of the default Kubuntu kernel and the .config file. Does anyone know where can I find it?
[04:19] <nikita> so can anyone advise me something about the language problem? 8)
[04:20] <sampan> nikita, have you logged in and out since making the change in system settings?
[04:21] <sampan> not sure, but maybe that would reset it?  and if not, you might try: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales   ... to reset the system locale to whatever you prefer
[04:21] <y_o_u> neko__: you mean the path ion your computer to the conf file?
[04:22] <bobaloo> anyone got any tips on getting the live cd to work on an hp laptop?
[04:22] <neko__> y_o_u: mm if it is in my system, yes.
[04:23] <sare> I need help installing flash for konqueror...
[04:23] <nikita> sampan: yes i did =(
[04:24] <sampan> nikita, and sudo dpkg-reconfigure locale  or maybe locales (i can't ever remember which it is -- with or without an s)
[04:28] <neko__> y_o_u: can y_o_u help me? :P
[04:30] <bobaloo> anyone in here have the live cd running on a laptop?
[04:31] <Red_Herring> did
[04:31] <Red_Herring> the mouse was slow?
[04:31] <Red_Herring> bobaloo?
[04:31] <bobaloo> ya
[04:31] <bobaloo> i cant get the live cd too boot on my hp laptop
[04:31] <Red_Herring> hmmmm
[04:32] <bobaloo> goes through the loading process then just sits at a prompt
[04:32] <Red_Herring> did ya try any of the boot options?
[04:32] <Red_Herring> prompt?
[04:32] <Red_Herring> as in the login screen?
[04:32] <bobaloo> something like ubuntu@ubuntu C:
[04:33] <sampan> nikita, success?  still broken?
[04:33] <bobaloo> i tried startx and it gave me error saying something about ati
[04:33] <nikita> sampan: it doesn't work =( messages are still pertly in russian. and xmms still has these strange characters
[04:33] <bobaloo> i have a ati 200m in this
[04:33] <nikita> sampan: thanks for advice, though =)
[04:34] <bobaloo> is it just not compatibl with that?
[04:34] <sampan> nikita, weird.  have you tried sudo kcontrol ... then going to the regional settings and changing it there?
[04:35] <sampan> nikita, there -has- to be a way, a simple way, to fix that -- something i'm forgetting or missing
[04:37] <nikita> sampan: yeah, the only language there is Can. English, though i still have russian in the system =/ hehe
[04:37] <sampan> nikita, lol -- that's awful
[04:38] <sampan> is it the whole system or mainly just console msgs?
[04:38] <bobaloo> red herring: what do you mean by boot options, im new to linux
[04:38] <Red_Herring> bobaloo: whats the problem when it boots up?
[04:39] <bobaloo> it wont ever actually boot into the os
[04:39] <Red_Herring> oh, and for irc, just type in red, then hit tab, and it auto fills in my name
[04:39] <bobaloo> ah thx :)
[04:39] <Red_Herring> so, you put it in, the cd boots up...
[04:39] <nikita> sampan: well, it's not that i don't like russian, i mean i can read the messages and stuff, but i wanna english on the system =)) and the XMMS characters are veeery uwelcome =)
[04:39] <bobaloo> it runs through the loading process
[04:39] <Red_Herring> ok
[04:39] <Red_Herring> and then?
[04:39] <bobaloo> but just hangs
[04:39] <Red_Herring> hmmmmm
[04:39] <bobaloo> never boots into the OS
[04:40] <bobaloo> its like it wants me to type a command
[04:40] <Red_Herring> oh
[04:40] <sampan> nikita, indeed ... i understand completely ... very strange though.
[04:40] <Red_Herring> did ya hit enter?
[04:40] <Red_Herring> thats usually what i do
[04:40] <bobaloo> ya
[04:40] <bobaloo> no go
[04:40] <Red_Herring> hmm
[04:40] <bobaloo> just gives me the same prompt
[04:40] <bobaloo> ubuntu@ubuntu C:
[04:40] <bobaloo> something like that
[04:40] <Red_Herring> oh
[04:40] <Red_Herring> ok
[04:41] <Red_Herring> may i ask what version this is?
[04:41] <bobaloo> whatever the newest version is
[04:41] <Red_Herring> is this breezy?
[04:41] <bobaloo> i just dled it the other day
[04:41] <bobaloo> hmm
[04:41] <Red_Herring> 5.10
[04:41] <Red_Herring> is breezy
[04:41] <bobaloo> i believe that was it
[04:41] <Red_Herring> well...
[04:41] <Red_Herring> it is a problem with the gui starting up
[04:42] <Red_Herring> xserver
[04:42] <Red_Herring> type in startx
[04:42] <Red_Herring> it *shouldnt* work
[04:42] <bobaloo> i tried that but it gave me an error
[04:42] <bobaloo> something about ATI
[04:42] <Red_Herring> ah
[04:42] <Red_Herring> well then
[04:42] <bobaloo> i have an ATI 200m
[04:42] <Red_Herring> 200m
[04:42] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[04:42] <bobaloo> in this laptop
[04:42] <Red_Herring> i had an x200se
[04:42] <Red_Herring> and it worked fine
[04:43] <Red_Herring> but it seems that kubuntu just didnt detect it properly
[04:43] <Red_Herring> for a livecd... im actually not sure how to help you
[04:43] <bobaloo> would regular ubuntu be any diferent
[04:43] <Red_Herring> but for an install i would suggest installing the official ATI drivers
[04:43] <Red_Herring> because it seems like a driver problem
[04:43] <Red_Herring> but no, both ubuntu and kubuntu use the same hardware detection
[04:44] <Red_Herring> i think
[04:44] <bobaloo> im dling knoppix atm to try that out
[04:44] <Red_Herring> ok
[04:45] <bobaloo> id rather play with a live cd before installing it on my hdd
[04:45] <bobaloo> is knoppix a good distro?
[04:45] <Hentai^XP> for a live cd yes
[04:46] <Hentai^XP> anyone know anything about wiki on webservers?
[04:49] <widi> hi every body
[04:49] <widi> may i ask for help with my ubuntu
[04:49] <Red_Herring> shoot
[04:51] <widi> i have wacom serial
[04:51] <widi> and i found the driver is attached
[04:52] <widi> but in can not work
[04:52] <neko__> I need the configuration of the kernel that I'm running right now. How can I get it? (I don't have the sources installed. It is the default kernel image)
[04:52] <Red_Herring> not sure
[04:52] <Red_Herring> did ya check the forums?
[04:52] <Red_Herring> you need to install teh kernel headings
[04:53] <RickKnight> neko__: look in /boot. The default config is there.
[04:54] <neko__> wo! it is there. Thanks!
[04:54] <RickKnight> neko__: Something like config-2.6.12-10-386
[04:55] <widi> wait
[04:59] <sare> I need help installing flash for konqueror... o.O
[05:02] <shwag> is there a way to use ls to list all files with their full path ?
[05:07] <Arcanimus> night all
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> shwag: Try "find /
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> in a terminal
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> Obviously, it'll take awhile.  ;)
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> (and that ought to be
[05:08] <Phoenix1701> "find /", but this keyboard doesn't like me)
[05:22] <Traum> !news
[05:22] <Traum> !fiels
[05:22] <ubotu> Some people juggle geese, Traum
[05:22] <Traum> !files
[05:22] <ubotu> Traum: Do they come in packets of five?
[05:22] <Traum> hehhehe
[05:23] <Traum> teach me, you bot: why do I have trouble logging in as root?
[05:24] <Traum> ubotu: why do I have trouble logging in as root?
[05:24] <ubotu> Traum: Bugger all, i dunno
[05:24] <Traum> really helpfull 3cpo
[05:24] <thoreauputic> !root
[05:24] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[05:24] <Traum> Anybody else, besides a bot, able to help
[05:25] <Traum> oh, thanks
[05:25] <Traum> thanks, doctor
[05:26] <Traum> you helped me, thoreauputic, tx
[05:26] <thoreauputic> Traum: my pleasure :)
[05:33] <Traum> "Failed to run /usr/sbin/synaptic: Child terminated with 1 status"
[05:33] <Traum> what now?
[05:34] <hatake_kakashi> go find out whats the error code for 1
[05:35] <Traum> ok, here we go
[05:35] <thoreauputic> try kdesu synaptic
[05:35] <Traum> ok
[05:36] <thoreauputic> of course, that's assuming you have installed synaptic :)
[05:37] <Traum> that I have, I am just grappling with the login after a fresh 5.04 for x86 install
[05:37] <Traum> coming from Suse, it takes a little learning
[05:38] <Traum> I had to make the regular users home dir first
[05:38] <Traum> so I am still stuck in Gnome, trying to get the kubuntu packages, thus the need for synaptic
[05:39] <Traum> once kde is up, I will start to see the light at the end of the tunnel
[05:39] <thoreauputic> Traum:  sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[05:40] <Traum> it always feels like "cheating" - copying somebodies one-liner...
[05:40] <thoreauputic> why 5.04 ? No Cd for 5.10 ?
[05:40] <Traum> thanks anyways,
[05:40] <Traum> oh, I think they were lying on the table for a while
[05:40] <thoreauputic> Traum: heh - sudo apt-get inatall apt-howto-en && apt-howto
[05:40] <Traum> I guess, i need to update, too
[05:40] <thoreauputic> ;-)
[05:41] <thoreauputic> sudo apt-get update
[05:41] <Traum> you helped me lots, tx agai
[05:41] <Traum> again, and again
[05:41] <thoreauputic> :)
[05:41] <Traum> I will print this page and study it the next few hours...
[05:41] <thoreauputic> !apt
[05:41] <ubotu> [apt]  http://www.ubuntulinux.org/wiki/AptGetHowTo/ or http://www.debian.org/doc/user-manuals#apt-howto
[06:05] <shwag> ps accepts both UNIX and BSD style options...is there a generally more used one ?
[06:07] <gamma> god i love knoppix
[06:07] <gamma> just switched after 4 years of gentoo
[06:22] <captainbraille> K3B won't burn the iso file onto a disc, it keeps saying there is a write error, but the mde5sum  says the iso file is fine
[06:22] <captainbraille> sorry, it's the kubuntu-5.10-install-i386.iso file
[06:24] <gamma> is it saying that during the burn?
[06:26] <captainbraille> gamma: yes, i keep getting "write error" and it ejects the disc!
[06:26] <gamma> are you burning as root or user?
[06:26] <captainbraille> user
[06:26] <hatake_kakashi> lmao.. try apt-get dist-upgrade when you are on dialup and you want to get kde3.5 for breezy
[06:27] <gamma> trying doing sudo k3b, i'm guessing it's a permission issue
[06:27] <gamma> you can fix it later if you want, but sudo is just faster :P
[06:27] <captainbraille> how do I do sudo?
[06:27] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: what's it take a few days or something? it took a while on cable
[06:27] <gamma> are you on kubuntu/linux now?
[06:28] <captainbraille>  gamma: I'm on ununtu linux
[06:28] <captainbraille> ubuntu*
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: yeah, its not exactly dialup speeds, but its adsl being shaped down to 64k
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> its been roughly 6 hours and its got to 33% after some errors with timeouts
[06:28] <gamma> holy crap
[06:28] <hatake_kakashi> this sure is fun :/
[06:29] <captainbraille> woah!
[06:29] <gamma> captainbraille: just type 'sudo k3b' in a terminal and put your user password in
[06:29] <hatake_kakashi> fscking ISP I swear.. fscking ISP as middleman...
[06:29] <gamma> i'm never going to go 56k again after switching to broadband
[06:29] <gamma> i remember waiting 30 minutes for a mp3 to download
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> I rather take this box of mine and leech it off uni with their connection instead
[06:30] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: why aren't you? i do that for big stuff
[06:30] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: well, I'm not exactly a student there :S
[06:30] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: if you "fit in" then you'll be all set
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> but I go there every so often.. another problem is that my box is fairly heavy
[06:31] <gamma> bah.. i can't stand desktops anymore
[06:31] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[06:31] <gamma> gotta get a laptop + wireless
[06:31] <gamma> wardriving is your friend hehe
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> imagine.. a 7 year old or so box with 3 hard disks, 1 floppy drive, and 2 optical drives
[06:32] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: I don't have wifi card heh
[06:32] <gamma> what type of processor is that thing running?
[06:33] <gamma> p3 700mhz?
[06:33] <gamma> err 7 years
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> Intel PII 400 (Deschutes)/768MB RAM
[06:33] <gamma> hmm.. p2 500mhz?
[06:33] <gamma> bah.. close
[06:33] <hatake_kakashi> :)
[06:33] <gamma> does kde even run well on that thing?
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> with lag every so often, which was why I wanted to get kpersonalizer last time.. it messed my system up real well so I had to reinstall :/
[06:34] <captainbraille> gamma, when the cd finishes burning I just have to restart the computer with it in the drive?
[06:34] <gamma> it's the installation cd right?
[06:34] <hatake_kakashi> and well, this time I have got several partitions instead of just 2
[06:34] <captainbraille> gamma: right
[06:35] <gamma> hatake_kakashi: smart thinking
[06:35] <gamma> captainbraille: yea.. then it's pretty easy to get going
[06:35] <gamma> are you going to format your disc captainbraille?
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> gamma: though, only 2 partitions out of the others were not used :/
[06:35] <hatake_kakashi> which kinda annoys me
[06:35] <captainbraille> gamma: how do I do that?
[06:35] <gamma> i've been running this one gentoo install for 4 years using a /boot swap and / no other ones.. this time i added a /home directory
[06:36] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[06:36] <gamma> that way i can have my files and reinstall without losing stuff
[06:36] <gamma> captainbraille: err i mean, are you going to be installing kubuntu and removing everything on the harddrive?
[06:37] <captainbraille> gamma: yes
[06:37] <hatake_kakashi> I've got /opt /srv /usr /var /usr/local /home / /boot and /tmp .. all of those except for /boot (which is running ext3) are running jfs
[06:37] <gamma> captainbraille: oh.. ok yea just boot from the cd and you'll be all set
[06:37] <gamma> jfs eww :/
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> better than ntfs heh
[06:38] <gamma> true.. never use reiser4
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> never tried it
[06:38] <gamma> i was on that for 2 years, and it's very cpu intensive
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> I have used reiserfs before, its not that bad
[06:38] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[06:39] <hatake_kakashi> I also have xfs partition as well
[06:42] <RJ_Not_Ajay> stupid Red_Herring
[06:42] <RJ_Not_Ajay> what an idiot, Red_Herring
[06:42] <RJ_Not_Ajay> oyfg, what a moron
[06:48] <captainbraille> gamma: the disc says it finished burning at 100% success, it should work right?
[06:49] <captainbraille> is there a way I can test the disc?
[06:50] <gamma> try mounting it and if you see files on it.. it should be working
[06:50] <Red_Herring> gamma: checksum?
[06:50] <Red_Herring> woudl that work?
[06:50] <captainbraille> gamma: this is what I see "Unable to mount the selected volume. The volume is probably in a format that cannot be mounted."
[06:51] <gamma> hmm
[06:51] <gamma> so you either have a coaster, or it can't view
[06:51] <gamma> it
[06:51] <gamma> i'd just say boot from cd, if not just boot back to ubuntu and try again
[06:52] <captainbraille> I'm thinking coaster, but I'll try booting from the cd, worth a shot
[06:53] <captainbraille> thanks for the help =) we shall see
[06:57] <gamma> is there a good ipod syncing program out there written in qt?
[07:20] <keherman> does Kubuntu use KDM for logins?
[07:21] <keherman> im installing kubuntu-desktop from a server install - will it default to kdm or gdm?
[07:28] <_tomas> goodmorning guys
[07:28] <_tomas> where do i report wishes for ubuntu/kubuntu?
[07:29] <_tomas> i dont really wanna file my wish as a bug but i dont see any other way :/
[07:30] <_tomas> its dead here?
[07:35] <keherman> ya
[07:35] <keherman> very dead
[07:35] <keherman> maybe if we curse, people will come in??!
[07:35] <keherman> fuck!
[07:35] <keherman> shit!
[07:35] <keherman> :-)
[07:36] <keherman> penis breath...
[07:36] <keherman> no one even cares..
[09:05] <dodadew> is it just me, or is Y Messenger down.  3 computers on different internet (dial up, broadband)
[09:08] <dodadew> anyone alive?
[09:14] <ejofee> me
[09:29] <juif> hola, i have a kubuntu box with an old monitor who wont go higher than 640x480, KDE does this, cause i told it too, but the login screen displays at 1024x768, making it unreadable. where can i go to change this maximum resolution thing for X ?
[09:36] <dodadew> anyone alive?
[09:56] <TuXLiN> how are you ?
[09:57] <TuXLiN> does any one in here knows how to setup network ?
[09:57] <TuXLiN> in ubuntu ?
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> setup for what?
[09:57] <hatake_kakashi> err what sort of network?
[09:57] <TuXLiN> well, I am trying to connect
[09:57] <TuXLiN> from ubuntu linux to windows xp
[09:57] <TuXLiN> shares with my wireless card
[09:57] <TuXLiN> the wireless internet works fine.
[09:58] <TuXLiN> but how do I setup my network on linux ?
[09:58] <hatake_kakashi> so who is the host and who is the client?
[09:58] <TuXLiN> I am experienced with shell and linux in general, but I have never setup wireless network in linux.
[09:58] <TuXLiN> I have a windows xp server at home
[09:59] <TuXLiN> I am trying to connect to windows shares tru ubuntu linux
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> so you want linux to see windows file and printing share?
[09:59] <hatake_kakashi> you need samba-client
[09:59] <TuXLiN> yes exatly
[09:59] <TuXLiN> ok
[09:59] <TuXLiN> apt-get samba-client ?
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> err I don't know, I personally just do 'apt-get samba' but I think I end up getting a whole bunch including the server.. hang on will check now
[10:00] <TuXLiN> no, there is no such package.
[10:00] <TuXLiN> ok, let me try that ...
[10:00] <hatake_kakashi> smbclient
[10:01] <TuXLiN> E: Couldn't find package smclient
[10:01] <TuXLiN> any idea
[10:01] <TuXLiN> what kind of repository do you use
[10:01] <hatake_kakashi> you mistyped
[10:02] <TuXLiN> yeah, the first time, I've tryed again correctly but nothing.
[10:02] <TuXLiN> oh, my bad
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> well I'm on breezy
[10:02] <TuXLiN> I see that I have smbclient newest version
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> but I believe it should have it in all release
[10:02] <hatake_kakashi> ahh
[10:03] <TuXLiN> I use 5.10
[10:03] <TuXLiN> yeah sorry, so what next
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> and I think you need a browser.. konqueror can do it I believe.. there is another program..
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> I think its called kombi2 or something?
[10:03] <hatake_kakashi> but I never used kombi2
[10:03] <TuXLiN> ok wait, trying ...
[10:04] <hatake_kakashi> there is another one which is not in the repos, but I have used it when I was on rh8, as recommended by my brother's friend.. was xfsamba.. that comes as a package from xffm now.. I checked recently and they only have rpm or src :/
[10:06] <TuXLiN> hay hatake, do you know any good repositories ?
[10:06] <TuXLiN> that would have latest packages ?
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> apt-spy  however I have not used it
[10:07] <TuXLiN> every package I tryed is not found, what repository do you use ?
[10:07] <hatake_kakashi> wait.. what packages?
[10:08] <TuXLiN> ok downloading/installing right now.
[10:08] <TuXLiN> never mind, but what is your repository, do you use defaults only?
[10:09] <TuXLiN> is apt-get same as apt-spy ?
[10:09] <TuXLiN> whats the diference?
[10:10] <TuXLiN> ok, found this http://wiki.linuxquestions.org/wiki/Apt-spy
[10:11] <TuXLiN> this is only for testing...
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> !apt-spy
[10:11] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: I give up, what is it?
[10:11] <hatake_kakashi> blah
[10:12] <TuXLiN> I figured out what it is, but I dont need it
[10:12] <TuXLiN> It is a program used to test a series of debian's mirrors for bandwith.
[10:12] <TuXLiN> does any one have a good repositories for ubuntu ?
[10:13] <hatake_kakashi> it depends on your location -_-
[10:14] <hatake_kakashi> my sources.list points to my nearest repos
[10:14] <TuXLiN> yeah I know, but what is your repos
[10:15] <TuXLiN> I am trying this right now, http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver
[10:15] <arrinmurr> TuXLiN: have you taken a look at http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic ?
[10:15] <di> hi
[10:16] <di> how do i install kde 3.5 after i install kubuntu-desktop?
[10:16] <TuXLiN> no, I will check it out
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> !kde 3.5
[10:16] <ubotu> [kde 3.5]  at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php
[10:16] <hatake_kakashi> !kde3.5
[10:16] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[10:16] <di> i tried that in ubuntu (gnome), without results
[10:17] <TuXLiN> oh, nice arrinmurr thank you! will try
[10:17] <hatake_kakashi> TuXLiN: I'm using au.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <TuXLiN> thank you
[10:18] <di> Couldn't stat source package list http://us.archive.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <TuXLiN> nice irc channel, good help
[10:19] <TuXLiN> you know, this http://ubuntuguide.org/#sambaserver  guide is really usefull
[10:20] <TuXLiN> Oh, yeah I found this today:  Unofficial Ubuntu 5.10 (Breezy Badger) Starter Guide
[10:20] <TuXLiN> http://easylinux.info/wiki/Ubuntu
[10:20] <TuXLiN> I just thutt people might need it.
[10:22] <TuXLiN> this is updated version of an old guide.
[10:26] <juif> does kubuntu go to ALSA by default ?
[10:26] <TuXLiN> no
[10:27] <TuXLiN> why is half of people is quite on this server ?
[10:28] <juif> what does it default to ? OSS ?
[10:29] <di> because they ask questions and forget to close xchat?
[10:31] <_mindspin> TuXLiN: maybe some are working.....
[10:31] <TuXLiN> like what ?
[10:32] <_mindspin> like me
[10:32] <TuXLiN> developing linux ?
[10:32] <_mindspin> no system architecture
[10:33] <TuXLiN> I see, what exactly do you do, C++ ?
[10:33] <_mindspin> nope
[10:33] <TuXLiN> ?
[10:33] <_mindspin> just getting applications working together
[10:33] <TuXLiN> oh
[10:33] <_mindspin> sometimes some ugly perl coding not more
[10:33] <TuXLiN> ok
[10:33] <TuXLiN> cls
[10:33] <TuXLiN> sorry
[10:36] <TuXLiN> ok I am lost, is there a wizard for seting up network like windows in ubuntu ?
[10:41] <trispace> i have a very strange font problem with breezy and kde3.5: sometimes, after a restart the default 8-point font size looks like a 7pt size so i have to setup the global font settings to 9pt do have them look like 8pt
[10:43] <trispace> but the funny thing is that after restarting the machine the fonts are shown with 9pt size (as expected). But after some time the effective font size flips back to 7pt
[10:45] <di> !pastebin
[10:45] <ubotu> hmm... pastebin is a site where you can post large texts and screenshots so you don't flood the channel. You can find it at http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org
[10:46] <di> help, i cant install kubuntu-desktop http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7606
[10:46] <di> my sources.list: http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7607
[10:48] <vvatsa> morning all
[10:48] <di> please help
[10:51] <di> hello?
[11:01] <_mindspin> di: a little more information would help helping
[11:02] <di> its ok.. i used the default sources.list and it works
[11:02] <di> thanks
[11:10] <melange> hi
[11:11] <melange> got a question
[11:15] <_mindspin> f
[11:16] <melange> could anybody help me please or, at least, show me what is
[11:16] <_mindspin> join #ubuntu
[11:16] <melange> the correct forum
[11:16] <_mindspin> what is your question?
[11:17] <juif> hiya
[11:17] <melange> well i upgraded to kde 3.5 and, asmany other users, kontact crashed...so I reinstalled and upgrade paying attention on no to install any kontact packages
[11:17] <juif> is uninstalling KDE cause i decided i liked gnome better a wise idea ? am i gonna lose all the KDE apps ?
[11:18] <melange> now everything on kontact is working (with the previous version..3.4) exept news because i need libknodepart.la
[11:18] <arrinmurr> juif: you are only going to lose the things you uninstall
[11:19] <melange> i guess if anybody send this lib to me it will work again
[11:20] <melange> that's all i need libknodepart.la
[11:20] <melange> from /lib/kde I think
[11:21] <slow-motion> hallo
[11:22] <melange> could anybody send libknodepart.la to me?
[11:26] <melange> (...)
[11:28] <melange> zzz...top
[11:29] <melange> is anyone looking at the screen?
[11:30] <melange> shame on me,if not, nobody would even see that
[11:31] <melange> that is what happen when you try to be funny by a foreign language
[11:51] <cinzia> hi
[11:51] <vvatsa> hi
[11:51] <cinzia> please, how can I display the home icon on desktop?
[11:53] <vvatsa> cinzia: in ~/Desktop have a file called Home.desktop
[11:54] <vvatsa> 
[11:54] <vvatsa> 
[11:54] <vvatsa> 
[11:54] <vvatsa> the content of the file should be like: [Desktop Entry] 
[11:54] <cinzia> vvatsa: then?
[11:54] <vvatsa> Encoding=UTF-8
[11:54] <vvatsa> Type=Directory
[11:54] <vvatsa> BgImage=
[11:54] <vvatsa> Icon=desktop
[11:54] <vvatsa> sorry for the flood guys.
[11:55] <vvatsa> change the icon for something else if you want.
[11:55] <cinzia> vvatsa: ok
[11:55] <vvatsa> hatake_kakashi: sorry, I will be more mind full in the future.
[11:55] <hatake_kakashi> vvatsa: fyi, if you are on irssi, you can just type '/t' and it will show the topic
[11:56] <cinzia> vvatsa: BgImage???
[11:57] <vvatsa> cinzia: I am going to guess thats the backgournd image, if you want one.
[11:57] <cinzia> ok
[11:59] <cinzia> vvatsa: when I click on it, it told me that Directory is a unknown type and crash
[12:01] <vvatsa> cinzia: humm, not sure
[12:02] <vvatsa> cinzia: have a look at http://tinyurl.com/9j5vr for a list of valid keys
[12:04] <dipnlik> hi all. are there any adblocking solutions for konqueror?
[12:05] <arrinmurr> dipnlik: yes. you need to upgrade to kde 3.5
[12:07] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: hm, not sure i want to do that yet, i use linux at work, and from what i've read, i should wait a little more for 3.5
[12:08] <arrinmurr> dipnlik: well, i haven't had any problems with it
[12:08] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: so you know any other solutions, maybe non konqueror-specific? i mean, in windows i could use adblock for firefox or the hosts file
[12:09] <arrinmurr> dipnlik: i guess you can use adblock for firefox in linux too (?)
[12:09] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: but I don't want to use firefox
[12:10] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: it is very slow in my old machine
[12:10] <dipnlik> arrinmurr: and it is not Qt :)
[12:11] <cinzia> vvantsa: ok tx
[12:11] <arrinmurr> dipnlik: hmm.. well, there's this, what was it called. a bit like webwasher on windows
[12:12] <hatake_kakashi> adblock for linux = privoxy
[12:12] <hatake_kakashi> and pg2 may also help as well
[12:13] <hatake_kakashi> let me rephrase :p: privoxy = adblock for both linux and windows
[12:13] <dipnlik> thanks hatake_kakashi and arrinmurr, will take a look
[12:13] <dipnlik> hatake_kakashi: is it in the repos?
[12:13] <arrinmurr> ah yes, privoxy it was
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> I don't know but if not you can get it externally if need be.. or compile it yourself
[12:14] <dipnlik> ok
[12:14] <arrinmurr> !info privoxy
[12:14] <ubotu> privoxy: (Privacy enhancing HTTP Proxy), section universe/web, is optional. Version: 3.0.3-4ubuntu2 (breezy), Packaged size: 829 kB, Installed size: 2164 kB
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> !info pg2
[12:14] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[12:30] <slow-motion> bbl
[12:37] <TheKhild> !firefox1.5
[12:37] <ubotu> You can use firefox 1.5 by following this wiki page https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FirefoxNewVersion
[12:37] <TheKhild> !addprograms
[12:37] <ubotu> I don't know, TheKhild
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> apt-get :p
[12:38] <TheKhild> no the kde add programsd i don't remember what its called.
[12:38] <hatake_kakashi> kde add programsd? wtf?
[12:39] <TheKhild> lol
[12:39] <TheKhild> from system tools
[12:39] <hatake_kakashi> I don't have access to Xorg now :P
[12:39] <TheKhild> has like lists of programs
[12:39] <TheKhild> u can dl.
[12:40] <hatake_kakashi> bah.. for kde3.5?
[12:41] <TheKhild> i don't remembr
[12:41] <TheKhild> it used to have add programs next to it in the k menu
[12:41] <TheKhild> i erased it by accident
[12:41] <TheKhild> can u look for me.
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> like I said, I don't have access to Xorg
[12:42] <TheKhild> ne 1 here?
[12:42] <hatake_kakashi> :p
[12:46] <ebrahim> kynaptic
[12:48] <ebrahim> ...is the kde interface to apt
[12:49] <TheKhild> o
[12:49] <bushito> (o.o)
[12:49] <bushito> how can i mount a  cd image?
[12:49] <TheKhild> ya how can i mount my windows partition to a linux folder/
[12:49] <bushito> eeeehhh
[12:49] <bushito> okey you do this
[12:50] <bushito> TheKhild: is it  a ntfs partition?
[12:50] <TheKhild> yea but i seen it done on SUSE.
[12:50] <bushito> .... (o_O)
[12:51] <TheKhild> ne 1 here know of a fedora core 4 channel?
[12:52] <bushito> TheKhild: who you talking 2???
[12:52] <bushito> (o_O)???
[12:52] <TheKhild> everyone...
[12:52] <TheKhild> just noones talking 2 me
[12:52] <TheKhild> :-(
[12:52] <bushito> i am doing
[12:52] <bushito> >_>
[12:52] <TheKhild> k
[12:52] <bushito> dont you want to mount
[12:52] <TheKhild> ya
[12:52] <bushito> your windows partition?
[12:52] <TheKhild> yup.
[12:52] <bushito> is it ntfs?
[12:52] <TheKhild> yes
[12:52] <bushito> okey
[12:53] <bushito> do you know the id of HDD?
[12:53] <TheKhild> ya
[12:53] <bushito> okey
[12:53] <bushito> whats the id?
[12:53] <TheKhild> HDA1
[12:53] <bushito> okey
[12:53] <bushito> type this
[12:53] <bushito> sudo vim /etc/fstab
[12:53] <bushito> in a console
[12:53] <TheKhild> and then?
[12:54] <bushito> you know how to use vim?
[12:54] <TheKhild> ...
[12:54] <bushito> >_<
[12:54] <TheKhild> no
[12:54] <bushito> okey press insert now
[12:54] <TheKhild> k
[12:54] <bushito> and you go down of the one that says /
[12:55] <bushito> or go to the second line on the parttion list
[12:55] <bushito> and press enter
[12:55] <TheKhild> k
[12:55] <bushito> then you write this
[12:55] <bushito> "/dev/hda1      /ntfs          ntfs      ro,umask=0222        0               0"
[12:56] <TheKhild> hold on...
[12:56] <bushito> but lets have it a little organize is better
[12:56] <bushito> instead of putting "/ntfs" put "/media/hda1"
[12:58] <TheKhild> or windows/C
[12:58] <TheKhild> :-p
[12:58] <a_danutz> does anyone know wich dc++ is good for kubunut 5.04 kde 3.4?
[12:58] <bushito> TheKhild:  windows/c???
[12:58] <TheKhild> as the directory it mounts 2
[12:58] <bushito> TheKhild: dont do that =P
[12:58] <TheKhild> k
[12:59] <bushito> put /media/hda1
[12:59] <arrinmurr> a_danutz: use wine
[12:59] <bushito> okey when you done
[12:59] <bushito> open another konsole
[01:00] <bushito> and type this "sudo mkdir /media/hda1"
[01:00] <hawking> when I run dhclient I get this "sit0: unknown hardware address type 776" why is this?
[01:02] <LeeJunFan> hawking: are you specifying the ethernet device dhclient is supposed to be running on? dhclient eth0
[01:03] <hawking> LeeJunFan : oh I didn't do that
[01:03] <hawking> thx
[01:04] <bushito> LeeJunFan: do you kknow how to mount an image of cd ?
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> np, the sit dev is for ipv6 over ipv4, when you run dhclient w/o args it tries every device, if you type ifconfig -a it will show all net devs your system sees.
[01:04] <LeeJunFan> bushito: mount -oloop [iso file]  mountpoint
[01:04] <TheKhild> bushito, how do i close the first konsole so it will save?
[01:05] <bushito> TheKhild: did you create the folder i told ya?
[01:05] <TheKhild> yes
[01:05] <bushito> okey first console you close it
[01:05] <bushito> by pressing esc 2 times
[01:05] <bushito> the put ":wq"
[01:05] <bushito> and enter
[01:05] <bushito> then you type "sudo mount -a"
[01:06] <bushito> ntfs are read only on linux so dont lose your head trying to write on it
[01:06] <hawking> LeeJunfan: and when I try to run privoxy I get this error  : invoke-rc.d: initscript privoxy, action "start" failed.
[01:06] <hawking>  do you know why this is?
[01:06] <LeeJunFan> ugh, my local mirror of dapper,breezy got hosed, have to download it all again :( Been going for 3 hrs at 400KB/s and almost 1/2 done.
[01:07] <LeeJunFan> hawking: I dunno what privoxy is even.
[01:07] <hawking> LeeJunFan : omg
[01:07] <bushito> hehehe =)
[01:08] <bushito> 400KB/s phew and why a re you so sad i download at 12KB/s
[01:08] <bushito> >_>
[01:08] <TheKhild> bushito, the put ":wq"??
[01:08] <bushito> TheKhild: yes sire
[01:08] <TheKhild> whats that mean?
[01:08] <bushito> ":" means command "w" write "q"quit
[01:09] <LeeJunFan> bushito: oh, the speed is great, but having my whole 12+GB mirror wiped out isn't.
[01:09] <bushito> LeeJunFan: hehehehe and how it got wiped??
[01:09] <bushito> it doesnt go by a puff =P
[01:10] <LeeJunFan> bushito: well it isn't actually wiped, it apparently hasn't been updated in forever because something broke with debmirror, I didn't realize until I upgraded to dapper last night and it started downloading everything, because dappers debmirror works.
[01:10] <TheKhild> [root@localhost ~] # sudo mount -a
[01:10] <TheKhild> mount: unknown filesystem type 'ntfs'
[01:11] <bushito> TheKhild: mmmmmm you sure that your HDD is ntfs?
[01:11] <TheKhild> ya
[01:11] <bushito> or that hda1 is your HDD
[01:11] <bushito> type this
[01:11] <bushito> sudo fdisk -l
[01:11] <bushito> and paste what it says
[01:11] <bushito> 6http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[01:11] <TheKhild> Disk /dev/hda: 120.0 GB, 120000000000 bytes
[01:11] <TheKhild> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 14589 cylinders
[01:11] <TheKhild> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[01:11] <TheKhild>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[01:11] <TheKhild> /dev/hda1   *           1        8771    70453026    7  HPFS/NTFS
[01:11] <TheKhild> /dev/hda2            8772       14254    44042197+  83  Linux
[01:11] <bushito> not here
[01:12] <bushito> >_<
[01:12] <TheKhild> /dev/hda3           14255       14450     1574370   82  Linux swap / Solaris
[01:12] <TheKhild> [root@localhost ~] #
[01:12] <bushito> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[01:12] <bushito> here
[01:12] <TheKhild> sry
[01:12] <bushito> >_<
[01:12] <TheKhild> lol
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> maybe ntfs isn't getting loaded.
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> at least it wasn't long.
[01:12] <LeeJunFan> sudo modprobe ntfs
[01:12] <TheKhild> FATAL: Module ntfs not found.
[01:12] <TheKhild> [root@localhost ~] #
[01:13] <TheKhild> oops
[01:13] <bushito> ....
[01:13] <bushito> you on root??
[01:13] <bushito> >_>
[01:13] <bushito> thats not posible
[01:13] <bushito> !root
[01:13] <ubotu> By default, the root password is locked in Ubuntu. Look at http://wiki.ubuntu.com/RootSudo for all information.
[01:13] <bushito> (o_O) you on recovery mode??
[01:13] <TheKhild> ya
[01:13] <TheKhild> so i can edit what ever
[01:13] <TheKhild> for a min.
[01:13] <bushito> dont do that =P
[01:13] <TheKhild> k
[01:13] <TheKhild> well why won't it work?
[01:14] <bushito> you use sudo in your normal user
[01:14] <TheKhild> i know
[01:14] <bushito> reboot and go to your normal user
[01:14] <LeeJunFan> hrm, well ntfs should certainly be there unless you deleted your module somehow.
[01:14] <TheKhild> module?
[01:15] <LeeJunFan> TheKhild: modules are drivers in linux, they are located in /lib/modules/[kernel version] , when you type modprobe [module]  it loads it into ram so the kernel can use it.
[01:15] <bushito> LeeJunFan: and why did you installed Dapper??
[01:15] <bushito> LeeJunFan: it says it is not ready yet =P use it by your own risk
[01:16] <LeeJunFan> bushito: Just to check it out, do my part finding boogs. I'm back in breezy now, I've got 2 paritions, one stable and one to mess around in.
[01:16] <bushito> LeeJunFan: dang dude you really got time to do "shits"
[01:16] <bushito> =) hehehehehe
[01:17] <andrzej> how i do for back kde to deauful?
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> I've used devel distro's for years, even made my own mini ubuntu to go on an access point, so it's no biggie.
[01:17] <andrzej> how i do for back kde to deauful?
[01:17] <LeeJunFan> I expected it to break a lot of stuff, but not to fix a mirroring issue I didn't know was broke. hehe.
[01:17] <andrzej> how i do for back kde to deauful?
[01:18] <LeeJunFan> andrzej: just delete your .kde dir from your home directory.
[01:18] <andrzej> ok thanks:P
[01:18] <bushito> LeeJunFan: where you from??
[01:21] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:21] <sorush20> how dow I add a chess engine to knights in Kubuntu?
[01:21] <TheKhild> same error.
[01:22] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:23] <bushito> TheKhild: same error??
[01:23] <TheKhild> ntsf not found
[01:24] <bushito> TheKhild: ok we got a problem there...
[01:24] <bushito> TheKhild: did you some how touched the ntfs partition?
[01:24] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:25] <TheKhild> huh touched?
[01:25] <bushito> TheKhild: mmmmm resized when you installing Linux
[01:26] <bushito> TheKhild: played with some kind of partitioner
[01:26] <TheKhild> ya ...
[01:26] <TheKhild> :-p
[01:27] <TheKhild> but it was with windows partioner
[01:27] <TheKhild> like when i has me and xp in at once
[01:27] <TheKhild> that was like 2 years ago.
[01:27] <_robin> .,.,.,._.,.,.,.
[01:27] <_robin> ....,.....'....'.................... '.'
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> parted, fdisk
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> wtf _robin
[01:28] <TheKhild> huh?
[01:28] <RobinL> sorry :p
[01:28] <hatake_kakashi> TheKhild: linux side of partitioning tools
[01:28] <TheKhild> partition magic
[01:29] <TheKhild> unless SUSE touched it as u say.
[01:29] <TheKhild> that was my first distro.
[01:29] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[01:29] <bushito> TheKhild: you gotta be sure cause i am not very expirince with the ntfs partitions damaged =P
[01:29] <TheKhild> ic
[01:29] <bushito> TheKhild: better talk to  an expert n.n i might damage your ntfs
[01:30] <TheKhild> well windows works.
[01:30] <hatake_kakashi> because ntfs isn't open-source.. greedy ms
[01:30] <bushito> but guindous is not linux =)
[01:30] <TheKhild> ya
[01:30] <TheKhild> FUCK MICROSOFT
[01:30] <bushito> *hits TheKhild* watch your mouth dude
[01:30] <TheKhild> i have windows for Finalfantasy XI and my printer.
[01:30] <RobinL> Buy Cro Soft
[01:30] <TheKhild> oosp
[01:31] <TheKhild> sry
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> Cro Soft?
[01:31] <RobinL> :po
[01:31] <RobinL> yea
[01:31] <RobinL> Cro Soft
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> wtf is that?
[01:31] <RobinL> My Cro Soft
[01:31] <RobinL> :)
[01:31] <bushito> Hey windows OS is a very good desing OS
[01:31] <bushito> so respect it
[01:31] <bushito> =)
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> desing?
[01:31] <hatake_kakashi> RobinL: I have no clue what you are on about
[01:31] <bushito> ummm "creation"
[01:32] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:32] <hatake_kakashi> windows OS is a very good creation OS?
[01:32] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: yeah =P
[01:32] <RobinL> hatake_kakashi: crack>?
[01:32] <RobinL> i'm not on "about" but im on crack
[01:32] <RobinL> :p
[01:33] <bushito> dont know why people hates windows, is a good OS the only bad thing is that it is not free n.n
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: it was aimed blatantly at people who are clueless with computers.. it was supposed to help them.. but ms decided to be greedy, anti-competitive, etc
[01:33] <hatake_kakashi> RobinL: you were talking about My Cro Soft.. I don't know what you are on about
[01:34] <RobinL> hatake_kakashi: well, My Cro Soft, a parody of Microsoft, just a parody word, not more, not less ;)
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: ms once had a plan to dominate the internet highway, and they were sued for that
[01:34] <TheKhild> ya
[01:34] <hatake_kakashi> RobinL: uh huh, you might want to try windows rg if you can :)
[01:34] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: heheheh dominicante the internet hahaha XD
[01:34] <RobinL> oh damn
[01:34] <RobinL> that one
[01:35] <RobinL> is reaaaaaaaaaaaaal good
[01:35] <RobinL> i mean
[01:35] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: seeing as how *most* users were running windows and all
[01:35] <RobinL> "really good"
[01:35] <RobinL> xD
[01:35] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: well more people are really lazy this days and guindows scratch their back so eas y=P
[01:35] <RobinL> i like windows, just not the fact that it is so slow
[01:35] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: and no... windows really needs to give users the opportunity to turn off eye-candy with a switch..
[01:36] <RobinL> hatake_kakashi: that option is present
[01:36] <RobinL> in advanced features
[01:36] <RobinL> :)
[01:36] <RobinL> then, get a lightweight theme
[01:36] <RobinL> a windowmaker-like theme
[01:36] <hatake_kakashi> RobinL: there's various pieces that you have to turn off..
[01:36] <RobinL> :)
[01:36] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: you know why more users on windows =O cause linux is more complete and complicate to use =O if you dont know what you doin gyou might break your system =)
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: yes.. giving users' impressions of what a computer is not really supposed to be like.. and you get elitist who think they are so cool with their ms os
[01:37] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: hahahahahaha youre right
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: and windows lacks flexibility, doesn't comply with RASIS/POSIX standards
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> etc
[01:37] <hatake_kakashi> except for maybe xp.. but only just maybe
[01:38] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: oh well but what we can do?, MisS SOFTy gets paid =P and money moves all.
[01:38] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:38] <hatake_kakashi> "oh! so you are running linux huh? you must be a newb then! look at the things I can do on my xp and you can't do it on linux!" - typical 'elitist' ms user
[01:38] <andrzej> what j do to remove deaful panel and use kxdocker?
[01:39] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: no windows user cant come with that to me xP
[01:39] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: i just put a litlte more commands in the linux konsole and i say "hey i am hacking and you cannot!"
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> hatake_kakashi: sure you can do all kinds of neat stuff with windows, blue screen, empty your wallet, etc.
[01:39] <LeeJunFan> get viruses, get spyware...
[01:39] <bushito> LeeJunFan: hhahahahahahaah very TRUE!!!
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: ms needs to change their concept.. or things will break even... they are greedy that they lost server market grounds and they want to manipulate ideas from linux/etc for that.. which is sad.. just like what they did with xp, used something from FSF and not even quoting it
[01:40] <bushito> but windows made some kind of book that teaches you how to trick your windows =)
[01:40] <TheKhild> ne1 know how wine works?
[01:40] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: yeah.. there's lots and lots of quotes for that from fortune
[01:41] <bushito> TheKhild: right click on the program you wanna use and then choose wine emulation
[01:41] <bushito> TheKhild: but it doesnt run all programs =)
[01:41] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: hehehe look at us complaining about windows =), and i dont even have it i cannot say much till i really try it
[01:41] <hatake_kakashi> LeeJunFan: henceforth windows rg :)
[01:42] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: I've used it and the only plus side I could give is that its easy-to-use... that's it
[01:42] <TheKhild> its still neet as hell.
[01:42] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: =O easy to use hhmm...
[01:42] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: i am going to try it ;)
[01:42] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: double-click on .exe file
[01:43] <hatake_kakashi> run everything as root
[01:43] <hatake_kakashi> etc
[01:43] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: only by that!!!??
[01:43] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: in fact, that's probably how easy it can get..
[01:43] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: woow....
[01:44] <bushito> ooh oh oh oh oh need to see that..
[01:44] <Hentai^XP> meh...run windows if you want win apps to use! but w\e
[01:45] <Hentai^XP> its all gravy
[01:45] <paradroid> I have a (probably newbie) question about Kubuntu and second display (monitor, beamer, ...).
[01:45] <bushito> what desktop manage and console does windows use?
[01:45] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: its all built-in, you can't choose, etc
[01:46] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: uuhhh??
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> and if your IE crashes, chances are your Explorer will crash
[01:46] <hatake_kakashi> have fun with it :P
[01:46] <paradroid> Is there anything 'special' I have to do when I want to attach a second display device to my laptop (running Kubuntu 5.10)?
[01:46] <bushito> well cedega recommends windows =)
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> bah cedega
[01:47] <Hentai^XP> bushito explorer and CMD
[01:47] <tictric> paradroid: you need to tell it the xserver
[01:47] <bushito> hhhhmm....
[01:47] <bushito> i am really curious (O_O)!!
[01:47] <hatake_kakashi> CMD on xp/2000 is dos emulator on NT basically
[01:48] <paradroid> tictric: OK, any way other than editing xorg.conf?
[01:48] <Hentai^XP> command interpeter
[01:48] <bushito> hatake_kakashi: Okey... and how does it manages partitions?
[01:48] <TheKhild> hey ne 1 no a way to maske the kmenu open with the windows button?
[01:48] <TheKhild> lol
[01:48] <tictric> paradroid: not as far as I know. but editing xorg.conf is about the easiest way I can think of.
[01:48] <hatake_kakashi> bushito: Computer Management
[01:49] <Hentai^XP> bushito manage partition as in?
[01:49] <RobinL> Unreal
[01:49] <RobinL> Tournament
[01:49] <RobinL> Demo
[01:49] <RobinL> FOR LINUX?!?!??!
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> only two fs is available, fat32 or ntfs
[01:49] <bushito> (o_o) well what kinds of partitions does it manages
[01:49] <bushito> =O whhaaa!!
[01:49] <Hentai^XP> FAT32 or NTFS
[01:49] <bushito> RobinL: stop jumping
[01:49] <paradroid> At the moment, when having the extra display attached on boot, I see the booting sequence but when reaching the (graphical) login screen there is only a distorted something.
[01:49] <Hentai^XP> and there is installable ext2\3FS drivers
[01:49] <RobinL> :P
[01:49] <hatake_kakashi> which are not from ms
[01:49] <bushito> .....
[01:50] <Hentai^XP> bushito I recommend going into #kubuntu-offtopic
[01:50] <TheKhild> i'm non existant now
[01:50] <TheKhild> w00000t
[01:50] <TheKhild> lol
[01:50] <bushito> hehehehe ok
[01:51] <paradroid> tictric: Can you point me to some (comprehensible) guide to configuring a second display device?
[01:56] <tictric> paradroid: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XineramaMultipleMonitors?highlight=%28xinerama%29
[01:58] <paradroid> tictric: Thank you, I'll give it a try.
[01:58] <tictric> paradroid: it just makes a difference whether you use a nvidia card or some other because twinview is somethin only nvidia supports
[01:59] <tictric> but if you got nvidia twinview is easier to configure
[02:00] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: you around? is dapper going to get 351 included at release?
[02:05] <redguy> LeeJunFan: most propably
[02:10] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: I don't know I need people to test it, and so far nobody has
[02:13] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: I will be hopefully soon. I had a local mirror here but apparently at some point debmirror stopped working right and I didn't notice until I installed dapper and it started downloading everything.
[02:14] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: see /topic for the archive
[02:15] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: yeah, saw that, thanks. That's why I asked actually.
[02:16] <LeeJunFan> right now I'm back on breezy (other patition) until my mirror is back to date. Up to 69% now. Stinks, I had (or thought I had) up to date mirrors of all repos, i386 and x86_64.
[02:22] <HeadUp`> GoGo #Groahrg for phun [amsg | dso] 
[02:22] <Riddell> HeadUp`: ?
[02:24] <HeadUp`> Riddell, ?
[02:26] <Riddell> HeadUp`: what does you last message mean?
[02:26] <HeadUp`> amsg for Qnet
[02:26] <HeadUp`> not freenode
[02:28] <HeadUp`> Riddell, why ?
[02:28] <Riddell> seems a bit confusing then
[02:31] <HeadUp`> GoGo #Groahrg for phun [amsg | dso] 
[02:48] <Riddell> HeadUp`: don't post offtopic messages
[02:55] <hawking>  I have a laptop and I have no desktop environment right now ... is there a command to show the life of the battery?
[03:06] <prxq> I have an .Xmodmap map for remapping some keys. KDE doesn't really respect it. Is there any way to achieve the same effect from within kubuntu?
[03:57] <hatake_kakashi> !kde3.5
[03:57] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[03:58] <ilba7r> anyone here now how to set a second vt
[03:58] <hatake_kakashi> !vt
[03:58] <ubotu> hatake_kakashi: Syntax error in line 1
[03:59] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, i checked :)
[03:59] <hatake_kakashi> meh
[03:59] <cello_rasp> is there any way of changing xchat so it goes to kubuntu instead of ubuntu on connect to freenode?
[03:59] <hatake_kakashi> google is your friend I believe ilba7r ;)
[03:59] <ilba7r> cello_rasp edit the server section
[03:59] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, and i know that too lol
[04:00] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, the problem is even on debian doc. it is not explained well
[04:00] <ilba7r> any way thanks for your help hatake_kakashi
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> bah :/
[04:00] <hatake_kakashi> SuSE managed to be able to open up some tty above F8
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> but not for login purposes, just for displaying stuff
[04:01] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, i do that in ubuntu too. Infact i am using the flexiserver to talk to you from tty9
[04:01] <hatake_kakashi> interesting
[04:02] <ilba7r> but doing so i loose my sound and i have to be logged in tty7 to run it. I want to set it permen
[04:02] <ilba7r> cello_rasp from menu xchat>serverlist>ubuntuservers right click than edit the /join #ubuntu to
[04:03] <ilba7r> lol he left
[04:03] <hatake_kakashi> ilba7r: is that package available in the repos?
[04:03] <hatake_kakashi> heh
[04:03] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, i use gnome
[04:03] <ilba7r> the package name is gdmflexiserver
[04:03] <hatake_kakashi> ta
[04:03] <ilba7r> i am near pos. there is a kdmflexiserver so check it out
[04:03] <ilba7r> it is the one that run a new login
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> it must be under universe repos
[04:04] <hatake_kakashi> I can't see it under those usual ones
[04:05] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, if you can execute newlogin from kde. sorry do not know the package name
[04:05] <ilba7r> just right klick on the package name and you will now the name of the package
[04:05] <hatake_kakashi> hmm
[04:07] <hatake_kakashi> ilba7r: I suppose I will do that when I can get access, but thanks for the heads up :) much appreciated
[04:07] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, just checked the package kdmflexiserver does not exist. might be a gdm thing. Thugh i think kde might have a counter package
[04:07] <ilba7r> hatake_kakashi, cool take care my friend
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> thanks a bunch :)
[04:08] <hatake_kakashi> you too
[04:29] <evil-doer> um, is there any way that the way the graphics system in kubuntu is used could hurt my monitor? it seems odd that the same day i install it my monitor went bad
[04:31] <evil-doer> im getting horizontal smearing, went back into windows and its there too. wiggled the plug, it seems to be fine
[04:31] <evil-doer> actually, let me try it on another computer, maybe its the videocard
[04:33] <evil-doer> ok let me rephrase the question, can the video system in kubuntu hurt my videocard..
[04:33] <slow-motion> re
[04:33] <trappist> evil-doer: if you have the wrong sync values, yes
[04:33] <evil-doer> the monitor is fine, the videocard is hurting
[04:33] <trappist> kitschw: please don't do that
[04:34] <evil-doer> trappist, its just using the default values, was running 1024@60hz
[04:34] <trappist> evil-doer: yeah I can't imagine it messing up your hardware unless you've been screwing around with that stuff
[04:35] <evil-doer> yeah its odd. maybe its just a coincidence
[04:41] <evil-doer> gonna let it cool off. cleaned the dust off it too
[04:49] <evil-doer> nope. my videocard is dying. its bad even running cold (and clean)
[04:50] <amg> Hi! tut est kto po russki ponimaet ?
[04:51] <kkathman> hey C-O-L-T :)
[04:51] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: hello
[04:51] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I have a question
[04:52] <kkathman> ask away
[04:52] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: why open office works so slow on my pc
[04:52] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  what are the specs of your computer?
[04:53] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: 256 MB Ram, 1300 MHZ AMD DURON, 40 GB hard drive, 600 mb Swap Space, and a poor video card 32 MB
[04:53] <`Nomad> C-O-L-T: Did you tuen off Java in the prefs?
[04:53] <`Nomad> turn
[04:54] <`Nomad> It seems to help some people with slow OO
[04:54] <C-O-L-T> `Nomad: how and where to turn up
[04:54] <C-O-L-T> turn off?
[04:54] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  the 256MB of ram is a bit low...rule of thumb, is that the older the machine, the more memory you need.  You might be running other things too
[04:54] <`Nomad> that too
[04:55] <C-O-L-T> Come on guys don't tell me that I need more hardware to run OO and office suite????
[04:55] <`Nomad> Under Options, probably General tab
[04:55] <kkathman> OO2 is a rather chunky program...so its needs lots of memory...I suspect that you are caching alot
[04:55] <`Nomad> I read that the next release will have more of a focus on performance
[04:56] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: than tell me another program which can I use with this specification. I can run very good ms office 20
[04:56] <C-O-L-T> 03
[04:56] <C-O-L-T> 2003
[04:56] <C-O-L-T> under windowxs
[04:56] <kkathman> in this case, the performance I think is machine based
[04:56] <C-O-L-T> and it works fine
[04:57] <kkathman> I cant imagine a windows machine operating extremely well at 256mb either..thats a bare minimum for XP
[04:57] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: can you tell me another office for my specification
[04:57] <`Nomad> What's teh easy way to extract the content of an ISO image?  I'm out of CDs and can't burn them off
[04:57] <C-O-L-T> a fast one
[04:57] <`Nomad> koffice
[04:57] <Insomniac-> `Nomad: mount it, mount -o loop iirc
[04:57] <C-O-L-T> `Nomad: can I run ppt files on it?
[04:57] <`Nomad> dunno, I use OO  :(
[04:57] <`Nomad> and I hate PPT files :)
[04:58] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  you could try the K-office suite and see what thats like, but Im pretty sure you'll run into the same thing... try looking around in your ksysguard and see what other things are running and maybe shut those down if they are nonessential
[04:58] <evil-doer> im almost glad that card died. i noticed i have a better one sitting around
[04:59] <`Nomad> I'll bet that your video card is a bottle neck too, especially if you have tons of added shiny things to your desktop?
[04:59] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I tried koffice and it is faster than oo, but I deleted it cause I found that oo is better
[04:59] <`Nomad> Thanks Insomniac, of course  :)
[04:59] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: will it help to turn off java in oo
[04:59] <`Nomad> I think turning off Java makes it start quicker
[04:59] <`Nomad> if I remember what I read..
[04:59] <kkathman> C-O-L-T:  yes it probably would, java, as a technology, is a very poor performer
[05:00] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: ok where can I do that
[05:00] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: uhmm I dunno...never really did it
[05:00] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: Anyway there is an office suite for gnome that's right?
[05:00] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: try Google
[05:01] <halibut> I cant install kubuntu, it crashes on the installing packages bit, I have heard something about the Asus A8V-E SE (my mobo) needing a certain version of kernal, could this be the problem?
[05:02] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I turned off java lets see what happens. Anyway I don't think that I have such a poor pc. Ubuntu and Xp works fine on it, I don't play, I just learn, net surfing, office, graphic tools and that is it
[05:03] <`Nomad> Isn't Gnome slow?
[05:04] <evil-doer> google needs to stop correcting kubuntu and asking if you meant ubuntu. someone should tell them :|
[05:04] <`Nomad> Put it in quotes  "kubuntu"  maybe
[05:05] <evil-doer> well its only a suggestion, it doesnt ignore it
[05:05] <evil-doer> i just dont like the message :P
[05:05] <C-O-L-T> `Nomad: It is a bit faster oo now
[05:05] <`Nomad> COLT: I just turned off Java, and upped the graphics cache to 64 megs.. Closed OO an dreopened it.. Much much snmappier and quick
[05:06] <`Nomad> Thanks for asking, now I have a faster OO  hehehe
[05:07] <`Nomad> I'm sure everyone here already knows all of this, but I found this Google commands list earlier and it's really nice to know  :  http://www.cyberwyre.com/data-mining-using-google/
[05:07] <`Nomad> thought I'd share it..
[05:11] <C-O-L-T> `Nomad: I asked about this office thing at ubuntu and they suggested me Abiword
[05:26] <slow-motion> bbl
[05:29] <prxq> C-O-L-T, just use emacs and LaTeX. Looks very good.
[05:30] <C-O-L-T> prxq: what are those
[05:30] <andrzej> http://www.humorek.com/p6/flash_7/Dub_dub_dub_dub_dub.html
[05:31] <prxq> emacs is an insanely powerful text editor. LaTeX is an insanely powerfull typesetting language :-)
[05:33] <Omri> hello
[05:35] <Omri> where can I configure the way Kubuntu acts when I insert a CD into the CD-ROM drive? (i.e. when I insert an audio disk it opens KsCD (which I want) but also it opens Konqueror to browse the disk which I don't want)
[05:38] <adrien> salut tlm
[05:39] <adrien> ya quelqu'un ?
[05:46] <vijay> hi all, can anybody help me how to configure real player for firefox 1.5, mplayer is loading instead of real plyer??
[05:48] <nlindblad> hello
[05:49] <jpatrick> nlindblad: hello, mate
[05:49] <vijay> i installed mplayer and mplayer plugin, then real player10.bin
[05:50] <nlindblad> jpatrick: hi
[05:50] <nlindblad> vijay: www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/ LinuxTutorialMozillaConfiguration.html
[05:50] <nlindblad> vijay: www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/LinuxTutorialMozillaConfiguration.html
[05:50] <nlindblad> vijay: had to do it that way last time I bothered doing it
[05:50] <nlindblad> long time since I used Real Player though
[05:50] <nlindblad> might be different now when it's based on helix
[05:51] <vijay> nlindblad:ok i'll try it
[06:11] <udomsak> hi all
[06:11] <udomsak> OO in kubuntu Breezy can't typ Thai language
[06:11] <udomsak> What wrong ?
[06:13] <Riddell> udomsak: can it do so under gnome?
[06:14] <udomsak> Riddell: Sorry , I'm not test it , when i typ in writer appear as 'a box' instead properly font
[06:16] <andred> kmail doesn't start after upgrading to 3.5.1 on dapper. known issue?
[06:20] <Riddell> andred: works for me, what doesn't start about it?
[06:26] <trappist> andred: kmail is hella unstable for me too.  do you use an imap server by chance?
[06:37] <rabbit> hi, how to fix the "Failed to load GTK bindings. Please check your Gnome installation." error ?
[06:46] <djdarkman> hy ,when i try to login to kde ,i get an error that it cannot write to /tmp ,what do i do?
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: ls -ld /tmp - paste the line with /tmp in it here.
[06:47] <LeeJunFan> just the one line.
[06:48] <LeeJunFan> brb hopefully - just upgradd to kde351.
[06:49] <djdarkman> huh wait a little ,i have to type this
[06:49] <cplusplus> hi
[06:49] <cplusplus> decode there?
[06:50] <djdarkman> drwxrwxrwt 5 root root 4096 2006-10-15 /tmp
[06:50] <djdarkman> thats it LeeJunFan
[06:50] <LeeJunFan> well, it looks correct. hrm.
[06:51] <LeeJunFan> what about ls -l /tmp and paste those results to http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/
[06:53] <djdarkman> drwx------ 4 root root 4096 2006-01-25 19:43 0156792482
[06:53] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan i had problems with adept before this
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: did you run adept from the command line with sudo?
[06:54] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan no ,i ran it from my k menu ,with kdesu
[06:54] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: is there a wiki page setup for 3.5.1/dapper problems or should I just submit to the tracker?
[06:55] <dark_suic> omg, 1 day and you're having problems with kde3.5.1?
[06:55] <dark_suic> that's fast :P
[06:55] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: what's the problem?
[06:55] <LeeJunFan> try 5 mins.
[06:56] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: breezy or dapper?
[06:56] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: I think the kdesu problem may be back. Dapper, I tried to setup acpi helper app, and it froze, never asked for pw.
[06:56] <andred> Riddell: i got a kmail: symbol lookup error: /usr/lib/libkmailprivate.so: undefined symbol: _ZN4KPIM8Identity4nullE , but a install --reinstall fixed the problem
[06:56] <andred> Riddell: libmimelib1c2 was replaced with libmimelib1c2a during the reinstall
[06:57] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan when i tried to install an apache webserver itt hung up during the configuration
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> andred: did you do dist-upgrade?
[06:57] <Riddell> andred: that replacement is ment to happen :)
[06:57] <djdarkman> and i killed the process
[06:57] <LeeJunFan> if you just do upgrade kmail will be held back.
[06:57] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: set up where?
[06:58] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: yes, that's expected
[06:58] <djdarkman> but i always got the error that the database was locked
[06:58] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan what should i do
[06:58] <djdarkman> ?
[06:58] <andred> LeeJunFan: uhm. maybe i just did a upgrade. i guess that was the problem then?
[06:58] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: what if as a user you try this from the commandline - touch /tmp/tempfile
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: not as root.
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> andred: probably I noticed kmail was going to be held back so I did a dist-upgrade.
[06:59] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan i think i found the problem ,its very ridiculous ,i don`t have free space
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> andred: wich then performed the lib swapout too.
[06:59] <jjesse> Riddell: what version is kmail supposed to be 3.5.1? it says (kmail 1.9.1)
[06:59] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: hehe, I've done that before.
[07:00] <djdarkman> i started mc and it complaind about it
[07:01] <Riddell> jjesse: yes, 1.9.1
[07:01] <djdarkman> LeeJunFan how can i chek that how much free space i have?
[07:01] <LeeJunFan> djdarkman: df -h
[07:01] <djdarkman> lol it`s true ,10x LeeJunFan
[07:08] <cplusplus> i have a problem packages cannt be found;(
[07:08] <cplusplus> -> http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/GH1MFr49.html
[07:08] <Edgardoweb> alguien que me ayude en espaol
[07:09] <cplusplus> what can i do....i already changed the sources.list ..
[07:11] <seashell11> !es
[07:11] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:11] <DjDarkman> hy ,i can`t open the adept`s database only in read only mode ,i think cause last time i used it ,i had to kill it ,cause it hang ,what should i do?
[07:11] <Edgardoweb> d
[07:12] <Edgardoweb> _aca_
[07:12] <larsivi> DjDarkman: try killall adept
[07:12] <Edgardoweb> spanish???
[07:12] <DjDarkman> larsivi: i restarted my system and still the same eror
[07:12] <larsivi> DjDarkman: try apt-get, you might get a more descriptive message
[07:13] <seashell11> Edgardoweb: try #kubuntu-es or #ubuntu-es
[07:13] <seashell11> !es
[07:13] <ubotu> Hispanohablantes: Por favor usen #ubuntu-es, #kubuntu-es o #edubuntu-es, alli obtendran mas ayuda.
[07:13] <Edgardoweb> seashell11 thanks
[07:13] <seashell11> Edgardoweb: no prob :-D
[07:13] <jjesse> sorry phone call, but kmail is working correctly
[07:14] <DjDarkman> ok larsivi it told me what to do ,10x
[07:14] <seashell11> is there any reason not to enable the backports for kde 3.5? does it work good in breezy?
[07:15] <seashell11> or what isn't working in kde 3.5?
[07:15] <kBCC> It's working great here..
[07:16] <kBCC> Will probably be included in the next release..
[07:17] <owner> kde 3.5 works fine
[07:17] <allee> Hi, anyone a working wlan setup to a WPA-PSK secured accesspoint?
[07:18] <larsivi> allee, not at the moment, but check out
[07:18] <larsivi> !wifi
[07:18] <ubotu> somebody said wifi was https://wiki.ubuntu.com/WiFiHowto
[07:19] <allee> ubotu: thx I have a look. I search wiki for WPA not wifi :(
[07:19] <ubotu> allee: Do they come in packets of five?
[07:20] <allee> ubotu: ?
[07:20] <ubotu> Wish i knew, allee
[07:20] <seashell11> allee: lol :-D you don't have to tell a bot thanks
[07:20] <allee> ups. :)
[07:20] <seashell11> ubotu tell allee about yourself
[07:23] <cplusplus> can someone paste his sources.list file?
[07:23] <seashell11> !easysource
[07:23] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:24] <seashell11> maybe that would work cplusplus?
[07:24] <owner> cplusplus http://www.ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:24] <callie> evening
[07:25] <Paradox^> can someone tell me a boot program besides grub and lilo?
[07:25] <seashell11> callie: good afternoon lol :-P
[07:25] <cplusplus> ??
[07:26] <cplusplus> seashell11
[07:26] <kBCC> Paradox> Those are the best you can have.. why not use them?
[07:26] <callie> seashell11, not here it isnt
[07:26] <seashell11> !tell cplusplus about easysource
[07:27] <cplusplus> where?
[07:27] <seashell11> cplusplus: go to easysource and make a sources.list file, mine is from there
[07:27] <seashell11> !easysource
[07:27] <ubotu> For an easy to use custom sources.list creator, visit http://ubuntulinux.nl/source-o-matic
[07:28] <cplusplus> what sould i take there?
[07:28] <seashell11> callie: it is here, (GMT -5)
[07:28] <callie> seashell11, i think i figured that one out
[07:29] <C2ODe_> anyone knows how to create a custome deb package with actual kernel linux-image?
[07:29] <seashell11> cplusplus: http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/522696 there is my sources.list
[07:31] <kBCC> C200e_ > Look at google for examples for Debian
[07:31] <kBCC> C200e -> http://newbiedoc.sourceforge.net/system/kernel-pkg.html for example
[07:32] <seashell11> cplusplus: does that help?
[07:33] <jonatan> can anyone help me with apt-get?
[07:33] <cplusplus> ok
[07:33] <cplusplus> i have a intel centrino mobile
[07:33] <seashell11> jonatan: what do you need help with?
[07:33] <jonatan> I can't install anything
[07:33] <kBCC> man apt-get :)
[07:33] <jonatan> I don't know what can I instal or anything
[07:34] <kBCC> What do you want to install?
[07:34] <seashell11> jonatan: what error do you get or what does it say?
[07:34] <jonatan> msn XD
[07:34] <jonatan> it only says paquech not found or something like that
[07:34] <prxq> paquech?
[07:34] <jonatan> package**
[07:35] <seashell11> jonatan: did you know that you could use kopete for msn? or gaim?
[07:35] <slow-motion> re
[07:35] <kBCC> Do you mean AMSN?
[07:35] <jonatan> ya AMSN
[07:35] <kBCC> apt-cache search MSN
[07:36] <jonatan> ya I know, but since there is like several ppl in my house that use this computer, kopete keeps all the msn lists on it
[07:36] <kBCC> It should list a AMSN package, if so: apt-get install AMSN
[07:36] <jonatan> and that just ain't kool
[07:36] <kBCC> apt-get install amsn I mean
[07:36] <jonatan> ok
[07:36] <jonatan> so thats all I put? apt-get install amsn?
[07:37] <seashell11> sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:37] <jonatan> roger
[07:37] <kBCC> yeah
[07:37] <jonatan> E: Couldn't findpackage amsn
[07:38] <kBCC> What does apt-cache search msn give you?
[07:38] <seashell11> I think you have to have the universe repositories enabled
[07:38] <jonatan> how do I use apt-cache?
[07:38] <_sam> Hiya I was wondering if any one could help me with some Kaffeine config
[07:38] <jonatan> how do I enable that?
[07:38] <seashell11> sudo apt-cache search msn
[07:39] <kBCC> You don't need sudo for that.. but it will work anyhow
[07:39] <jonatan> it says kopete instan msn for KDE
[07:39] <kBCC> Then you should update your sources.list
[07:39] <jonatan> how?
[07:39] <seashell11> kBCC: I just havn't ever tried it without sudo I guess
[07:39] <seashell11> jonatan: sudo apt-get update
[07:39] <jonatan> sudo apt-get upgrade sources,list?
[07:40] <kBCC> seashell> Anyone can check if a package is installed
[07:40] <jonatan> kk
[07:40] <_sam> I'm getting this error when trying to play a DVD -- No URI handler implemented for "dvd://"
[07:40] <jonatan> ok its updated
[07:40] <ninniuz> hi I have a question
[07:40] <seashell11> then try sudo apt-get install amsn
[07:40] <jonatan> same thing o.o
[07:40] <ninniuz> I'm having a problem with kubuntu installation
[07:41] <kBCC> jon> Then you should add more sources to your sources.list.. are you using adept?
[07:41] <ninniuz> I cannot find any startx script...how can it be?
[07:41] <_sam> What's your problem ninn
[07:41] <_sam> ?
[07:41] <jonatan> I don't really know what adept is =S. I'm new with linux
[07:41] <ninniuz> I downloaded the kubuntu iso
[07:41] <ninniuz> and trying to install it
[07:42] <_sam> I'm not sure what a startx script is ?
[07:42] <ninniuz> the script to load X and kde
[07:42] <jonatan> ninniuz what does it say? I installed this one the same way, gave me some errors but I restarted it and tryed again and it workd fine
[07:43] <ninniuz> when I boot I got the command line login
[07:43] <ninniuz> and when I try to run startx it tells it cannot find it
[07:43] <sampan> jonatan, adept is kubuntu's "package manager" (a gui front end for the apt package system on ubuntu).  if it's a brand new install, you likely just need to enable some repositories (places to download ubuntu packages from)
[07:44] <ninniuz> and actually there is none
[07:44] <jonatan> and how do I do that?
[07:44] <sampan> ninniuz  did you select a 'server' installation?
[07:44] <kBCC> jon > Yeah -> K Menu -> System -> Adept
[07:44] <cplusplus> hm: configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
[07:44] <cplusplus> See `config.log' for more details.
[07:44] <ninniuz> yes
[07:44] <kBCC> jon -> Adept -> Manage repositories
[07:44] <sampan> cplusplus  you need to install the build-essential package
[07:45] <sampan> ninniuz  the 'server' install has NO X
[07:45] <sampan> that's why no startx
[07:45] <cplusplus> which one?
[07:45] <cplusplus> hm
[07:45] <sampan> cplusplus  at command line: sudo apt-get install build-essential  :)
[07:45] <jonatan> kBCC: once I'm there what do I do?
[07:46] <ninniuz> ok ty I got wrong
[07:46] <cplusplus> apt-get install make ?
[07:46] <sampan> ninniuz  no worries, but you can install X and a desktop easily
[07:46] <ninniuz> I didnt read it carefully
[07:46] <ninniuz> I'm running the installer again
[07:46] <jonatan> do enamble them all?!?!
[07:46] <kBCC> jon > There should be three debs which need to be uncommented
[07:46] <ninniuz> maybe it's easier
[07:46] <sampan> ninniuz you don't need to do the reinstall:  sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop (for gnome) ... kubuntu-desktop (kde)  xubuntu-desktop (for xfce)
[07:47] <ninniuz> ok :) ty
[07:47] <sampan> sure np :)
[07:48] <kBCC> jon > You need breedy-updates with main restricted universe multiverse
[07:48] <kBCC> jon > Also for breezy
[07:48] <jonatan> ok ok where is this breedy-updates with main restricted universe?
[07:49] <kBCC> jon > You are in Adept?  Manage Repositories should list a table of sources
[07:49] <jonatan> indeed
[07:49] <owner> ninniuz what are your computer specs
[07:50] <jonatan> and there is only one enamble
[07:50] <kBCC> jon> Howmany are there and what do they read?
[07:50] <jonatan> 37 o.o, but many of them only say comment
[07:50] <jonatan> u want me to read them all?
[07:51] <kBCC> jon> Just the black one
[07:51] <kBCC> jon> At component is probably says "main restricted"?
[07:52] <kBCC> jon> Double click and add "universe multiverse" to that
[07:52] <Paradox^> excuse me?
[07:52] <jonatan> deb URL: cdrom: [Kubuntu 5.10 _Breezy Badged_ release i386 (20051012)] /
[07:52] <jonatan> thats the only one thats in black
[07:52] <sampan> jonatan  you should DISABLE that one.  you don't need it anymore
[07:52] <Paradox^> I need help?
[07:52] <snowangelic> bonjour tout le monde
[07:53] <jonatan> ok now there is nothing on black
[07:53] <jonatan> they all gray
[07:53] <sampan> paradox^  most of us need help (in more ways than one) ... but if it's a kubuntu thing, just ask your question and if someone knows, they'll help :)
[07:53] <jonatan> kBCC do u want me to type universe mutiverse and click add?
[07:54] <jonatan> on the new repository thing?
[07:54] <kBCC> jon> Disable the CDROM and ENABLE the one that says http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu
[07:54] <Paradox^> :S
[07:54] <Paradox^> maria need help
[07:54] <jonatan> there is many of those
[07:54] <cplusplus> whats /etc/init.d/cups restart ??? cups?
[07:54] <osh_> cplusplus: printing.
[07:54] <sampan> cplusplus  yep -- that's the cups printing
[07:55] <cplusplus> not found
[07:55] <cplusplus> why?
[07:55] <cplusplus> hm
[07:55] <kBCC> jon > deb - http://us.archive.ubuntu.com breezy main restricted
[07:55] <kBCC> jon> Enable that and add universe multiverse to the main restricted
[07:55] <jonatan> nreezy-backports?
[07:55] <Mez> jonatan, breezy
[07:55] <jonatan> there is none
[07:56] <Paradox^> I need help...maria doesnt want to use kubuntu but i dont understand computer talk
[07:56] <jonatan> o nvm
[07:56] <jonatan> found it
[07:56] <sampan> cplusplus  because in init.d it's "cupsys" not just cups
[07:56] <Paradox^> if I want xp back how do i do
[07:56] <cplusplus> they wrote it cups in the install: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#most
[07:56] <kBCC> jon> Also enable breezy-security and breezy-updates while you're at it
[07:57] <kBCC> jon > Then press Fetch Updates
[07:57] <jonatan> deb-source? or just deb?
[07:57] <kBCC> Just deb
[07:57] <jonatan> deb-src**
[07:57] <jonatan> kk
[07:57] <Paradox^> men bl
[07:57] <Paradox^> skit it da
[07:57] <jonatan> on security
[07:57] <jonatan> there is 2 options
[07:58] <jonatan> univers or main restriceted
[07:58] <jonatan> which one?
[07:58] <kBCC> Do them both
[07:58] <jonatan> kk
[07:58] <hugelmopf> i have a few suggestions for "System Settings" improvements. before posting them somewhere, i'd like to discuss them. if you want -> join #discusssystemsettings
[07:58] <jonatan> I click fetch updates and a huge list came out o.o
[07:59] <kBCC> jon > That's good.
[07:59] <jonatan> kewl
[07:59] <jonatan> so what do I do now?
[07:59] <kBCC> jon > Now see if you can find aMSN in adept
[07:59] <olaff> how do i open .ace files?
[07:59] <larsivi> .ace?
[07:59] <kBCC> jon> Adept is a graphical APT-GET tool, so you can either use adept.. or try apt-get install amsn again
[07:59] <jonatan> roger
[08:00] <jonatan> but after I get the huge list on adept do I just close it or what do I do to it?
[08:00] <olaff> yes .ace
[08:00] <kBCC> jon> Type MSN in your Quickfilter
[08:01] <jonatan> nothing appears
[08:01] <olaff> amsn
[08:01] <jonatan> same
[08:01] <owner> olaff, type sudo apt-get install unace
[08:01] <jonatan> nothin
[08:01] <kBCC> jon > Lowercase?
[08:01] <olaff> ty owner
[08:01] <owner> np
[08:02] <jonatan> ya
[08:02] <jonatan> lowercase
[08:02] <kBCC> jon > what does apt-cache search msn say now?
[08:02] <jonatan> same copete something
[08:02] <kBCC> jon > Did you add the "universe multiverse" as I said?
[08:03] <cplusplus> i have a big problem when i install my printer: http://hpinkjet.sourceforge.net/install.php#most -> When prompted, enter the root username and password. doent work;(( why?
[08:03] <cplusplus> i use firefox....
[08:03] <jonatan> don't think I did
[08:03] <jonatan> how do I add universe mutiverse?
[08:03] <hugelmopf> cplusplus: use the printer module in system settings to set up your printer.
[08:04] <kBCC> jon > Go back to the Manage Repositories
[08:04] <jonatan> done
[08:04] <kBCC> jon > Look for deb breezy
[08:04] <jonatan> what does commit changes mean?
[08:04] <kBCC> jon> What does it say under components?
[08:04] <cplusplus> hugelmopf i have a hp printer!
[08:04] <kBCC> jon > That comes later
[08:04] <jonatan> hold on there is not deb breezy
[08:05] <jonatan> ok
[08:05] <kBCC> jon > Did you APPLY the last time?
[08:05] <jonatan> how do I APPLY?
[08:05] <kBCC> jon> the BIG APPLY button in the center?
[08:05] <hugelmopf> cplusplus: have you tried? hp printers should work easily in ubuntu.
[08:05] <jonatan> lol no I didn't xD
[08:05] <kBCC> jon> Chich APPLIES changes you made to your repositories..
[08:05] <jonatan> I just put all the things u told me back, and put apply
[08:06] <jonatan> but I cna't find that universe thing that u told me
[08:06] <kBCC> jon> Ok.. then also check if all components list "universe main restricted and multiverse"
[08:06] <kBCC> jon> Look at a black line, what does it say in the Components field?
[08:06] <jonatan> ok
[08:07] <jonatan> on the security, upgrade or which ?
[08:07] <jonatan> all?
[08:07] <kBCC> jon> They should all read universe main restricted multiverse
[08:08] <jonatan> they say main restricted
[08:08] <kBCC> jon> Change that
[08:08] <jonatan> how?
[08:08] <kBCC> jon > Double click on main restricted
[08:08] <jonatan> ok
[08:09] <jonatan> and I put universal?
[08:09] <kBCC> jon > ADD "universe multiverse"
[08:09] <kBCC> jon> Space seperated
[08:09] <hugelmopf> cplusplus: i hope you did not follow that tutorial to close. you don't have to install HPLIP yourself, it is already installed.
[08:09] <jonatan> ok
[08:09] <kBCC> jon > Then APPLY and Fetch Updates
[08:09] <jonatan> ok
[08:10] <jonatan> do I change those on all of them?
[08:10] <kBCC> jon > All three yeah
[08:10] <jonatan> on the security and the upgrade ones as well?
[08:10] <jonatan> there is 4 on black
[08:10] <jonatan> 1 on only breezy, 1 on upgrade and 2 on security
[08:11] <kBCC> jon > The security lines are the same, exept for the components?
[08:11] <jonatan> ya
[08:11] <kBCC> jon> Combine them into one line
[08:11] <jonatan> on 1 says main and the other it says universe
[08:12] <jonatan> ok
[08:12] <jonatan> so there should only be 3 right?
[08:12] <kBCC> jon >Yeah
[08:12] <jonatan> on the breezy I'm putting on components
[08:12] <DjDarkman> hy ,can someone tell me how can i find out what port does kmail want to use to send mails?
[08:13] <jonatan> main restricted universe??
[08:13] <kBCC> jon> AND multiverse
[08:13] <jonatan> roger
[08:13] <kBCC> jon > APPLY and Fetch Updates
[08:14] <ljlolel> !find keymap
[08:14] <ubotu> keymapper: (Keyboard map decision tree builder and interpreter), section utils, is optional. Version: 0.5.3-1 (breezy), Packaged size: 37 kB, Installed size: 220 kB
[08:14] <jonatan> done
[08:14] <jonatan> roger
[08:15] <kBCC> jon> Ok, can you find amsn now?
[08:15] <jonatan> its fetching
[08:15] <kBCC> jon > Ok..
[08:15] <jonatan> nop amsn its not on it
[08:16] <kBCC> jon> Are you sure it updated all the universe and multiverse sources?
[08:16] <jonatan> ya
[08:17] <jonatan> cause bittorrent its now on it
[08:17] <jonatan> and it wasn't before
[08:17] <PupenoL> how do I make my kubuntu workstation request an ipv6 to my debian running radvd ?
[08:18] <jonatan> =S
[08:18] <jonatan> amsn its not there
[08:18] <kBCC> jon> It's in the breezy universe.. did you spell that right?
[08:18] <jonatan> yes
[08:19] <kBCC> What does apt-cache search msn say?
[08:20] <jonatan> kk found it
[08:20] <kBCC> jon > Tada :)
[08:20] <jonatan> but I had to add an other repository
[08:21] <jonatan> that said breezy universe
[08:21] <kBCC> jon > Ok...
[08:21] <kBCC> jon > Then you can tag amsn vor installation and "COMMIT CHANGES"
[08:21] <jonatan> vor installation?
[08:21] <kBCC> for
[08:21] <kBCC> The V is next to the F :)
[08:24] <jonatan> THNX
[08:24] <kBCC> jon> No problem :)
[08:24] <jonatan> hey
[08:24] <DjDarkman> can someone tell me how can i find out what port does kmail want to use to send mails?
[08:24] <jonatan> I have 1 more question
[08:24] <kBCC> jon> You should use Adept, it's a lot simpeler then the commandline
[08:24] <jonatan> ya I can c that
[08:24] <kBCC> jon> Yeah :)?
[08:24] <m0ns00n> Hmm
[08:25] <jonatan> its there anyway to make OpenOffice compatible with Windows Office?
[08:25] <m0ns00n> But no GUI as of yet kan fix the deb problems when a package overwrites a file which is already in another currently installed file
[08:25] <m0ns00n> etc
[08:25] <m0ns00n> So then you need to use dpkg
[08:25] <m0ns00n> =)
[08:25] <snowangelic> DjDarkman: > wait a second
[08:25] <DjDarkman> k snowangelic
[08:25] <kkathman> jonatan: it is already you can open a doc thats been created with Word
[08:25] <kBCC> djDarkman > 25
[08:25] <snowangelic> doesn't it use the same port a s the other mail clients ?
[08:25] <kkathman> jonatan:  and you can create a doc that word can read also
[08:25] <kBCC> jon > It is.. sortof :)
[08:26] <jorik> for some reason, somtimes when KDE starts the fonts are all smaller, n then when i restart it all goes back to normal ... anyone knows how i can stop this from happening ?
[08:26] <snowangelic> if it does the yes it's 25
[08:26] <jonatan> I'm confused
[08:26] <kkathman> jonatan: the tricky things are the formatting and possibly the fonts.
[08:26] <jorik> (kde3.5 but i had this problem with the ol' version aswell)
[08:26] <kBCC> jon> You should be able to read and wright word documents
[08:27] <jonatan> confused :S
[08:27] <jonatan> so there is a way or no? XD
[08:27] <cplusplus> hugelmopf oh
[08:27] <kBCC> jon > Yeah, just open a worddocument and see for yourself
[08:27] <cplusplus> how can i reset the printing module?
[08:27] <cplusplus> hugelmopf
[08:27] <cplusplus> or reinstall?
[08:28] <jonatan> word as in Windows Word right?
[08:28] <kkathman> jonatan: yes MS Word
[08:28] <kBCC> jon> You COULD run into small layout problems when migrating from microsoft word to openoffice, but it should be very minimal
[08:28] <DjDarkman> kBCC: snowangelic is it udp or tcp?
[08:28] <kkathman> jonatan:  I can write something in Word and send it to you, and you can open it and read it in OO2
[08:29] <jonatan> ok
[08:29] <kBCC> djDarman > TCP
[08:29] <jonatan> lets try it with some file in my other pc
[08:29] <cplusplus> hugelmopf how can i reset the printing module?
[08:29] <cplusplus> in kde
[08:29] <kBCC> jon> You do that :)
[08:30] <jonatan> Thnx kBCC for all the help
[08:30] <hugelmopf> cplusplus: what do you mean by reset? "sudo /etc/init.d/cupsys restart"
[08:30] <cplusplus> i made wrong configurations!!
[08:30] <kBCC> jon> No problem.. happy kubunting :)
[08:30] <cplusplus> add a printer server....but it was wrong...
[08:31] <cplusplus> do oyu understand?
[08:32] <hugelmopf> cplusplus: maybe. one sec
[08:32] <cplusplus> i want to reinstall the printer module and clear all config. for the printing module!!!
[08:34] <DjDarkman> i enabled TCP  port  25 in my guarddog ,but still i cant send mails ,is there some way to chek out what port does kmail want to use to send mails?
[08:35] <jonatan> hey I tryed to open the floppy disk where I have the file and it says that the system is not specified what does that mea?
[08:35] <bushito> !ati
[08:35] <ubotu> ati is, like, at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/BinaryDriverHowto/ATI or http://www.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=24557&page=1&pp=10
[08:36] <DjDarkman> no one knwos? :(
[08:37] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: sorry, got disconnected.
[08:37] <cplusplus> ok
[08:37] <jonatan> kDCC help plix
[08:37] <cplusplus> -> i want to reinstall the printer module and clear all config. for the printing module!!!
[08:37] <cplusplus> _hugelmopf
[08:37] <jonatan> kBCC help plix
[08:37] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: why don't you just change the settings to the correct ones?
[08:38] <cplusplus> someth goes wrong
[08:38] <cplusplus> i want to reinstall the printer module and clear all config. for the printing module!!!
[08:38] <jonatan> I tryed to open the floppy disk where I have the file and it says that the system is not specified what does that mea?
[08:38] <cplusplus> is the fastest way!!!
[08:38] <jonatan> come on c++ even I was able to put my printer XD
[08:38] <jonatan> I know u can do it as well =D
[08:39] <cplusplus> _hugelmopf?
[08:39] <cplusplus> any idea?
[08:39] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: i am not exactly sure how to do this. still checking
[08:39] <shwag> are ICMP messages tcp, udp , or either/or ?
[08:39] <cplusplus> okk
[08:42] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: you can try to reconfigure CUPS by entering "sudo dpkg-reconfigure cupsys"
[08:42] <_hugelmopf> but i don't know, if that will change everything in the printer module
[08:42] <shwag> what I dont understand is that traceroute uses ICMP_Time_Exceeded, but also uses UDP? it sends a UDP packet,..and the Time Exceeded is just the reply  maybe.
[08:43] <cplusplus> hm
[08:43] <cplusplus> thats not that what i want!
[08:43] <cplusplus> is it note possible to clear the printing module package?
[08:43] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: i did not find a separate package for it
[08:44] <cplusplus> hm
[08:44] <cplusplus> not good
[08:44] <cplusplus> i dont want to reinstall kubuntu
[08:44] <DjDarkman> i enabled TCP  port  25 in my guarddog ,but still i cant send mails ,is there some way to chek out what port does kmail want to use to send mails?
[08:44] <cplusplus> _hugelmopf maybe you can help via remote?
[08:45] <_hugelmopf> cplusplus: you won't have to reinstall. do you want to pm me with your problem?
[08:45] <cplusplus> i cant pm you
[08:45] <_hugelmopf> oh, ok. then join #hugelmopf
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: can you give me some correct repositories because I am having some problems with mine ones
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: anyway
[08:46] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: hello
[08:46] <gad3> i have some questions about kubuntu.. :)
[08:47] <jpatrick> gad3: yes?
[08:48] <gad3> i installed kubuntu 2 days ago, but the installer wasn't graphic(it doesn't matter) but i didn't find what packages to install
[08:48] <gad3> do you understand or.. ?":)
[08:48] <C-O-L-T> jpatrick: can you give me some working repos cause i am having problem with mine ones
[08:48] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: repositories for what
[08:48] <Tm_T> gad3: if you do "normal" install, it installs working system with set of apps
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: the whole new repos that are basically in kubuntu
[08:49] <kkathman> use  archive.ubuntu.com   for everthing except possibly the KDE ones
[08:49] <gad3> i wrote "install"..
[08:49] <Tm_T> gad3: you have to do "server" install if you like debian-style "choose packages" install
[08:49] <gad3> Tm_T how to do this??
[08:49] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I am having some romanian repos and they are not up to date and not working. I need a new sources.list
[08:49] <Tm_T> gad3: where you typed install, type server, I think
[08:49] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: just replace the portion of the  repository in your /etc/apt/sources.list  with archive.ubuntu.com
[08:50] <C-O-L-T> ok
[08:50] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: instead of..like  romania.ubuntu.com etc...
[08:50] <gad3> ok, i understand i think..
[08:51] <gad3> Tm_T which FS do you recommend?
[08:51] <Tm_T> gad3: but, if you don't need to cut out some packages, just do normal installation
[08:51] <Tm_T> gad3: ext3 ?
[08:51] <Tm_T> no real recommendations, but secure choice
[08:51] <Tm_T> not best, not worst
[08:52] <gad3> when i did normal install there wasnt firefox etc..
[08:52] <Tm_T> gad3: you can install them later
[08:52] <kkathman> C-O-L-T: dont forget to do a sudo apt-get update before trying to retrieve things
[08:52] <gad3> i know, but i'm a newbie and don't know:))
[08:52] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: I see the problem is that I don't get a list of repos at archive.ubuntu.com
[08:53] <Tm_T> gad3: so now I tell you how: run adept and use it, it's not complicated
[08:53] <C-O-L-T> just directories
[08:53] <gad3> Tm_T what this mean? that everything can be fixed?
[08:54] <gad3> sry for my english:))
[08:54] <Tm_T> yes
[08:54] <gad3> that's what i'm doing:)
[08:54] <Tm_T> you don't need to reinstall all system to get some packages
[08:54] <gad3> i know..
[08:54] <Tm_T> or remove
[08:54] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: ?
[08:54] <gad3> so instead of "install" i should type "server"?
[08:55] <Tm_T> gad3: no
[08:55] <Tm_T> you have working kubuntu, right?
[08:55] <gad3> not really, i
[08:55] <Tm_T> erh
[08:55] <Tm_T> :p
[08:55] <gad3> not really, i've working with suse a bit
[08:56] <Tm_T> gad3: then install kubuntu as you did last time, and install firefox and others what you like using adept
[08:56] <gad3> ok
[08:56] <gad3> when i install it
[08:56] <gad3> i will rejoin;)
[08:56] <gad3> good night for now:)
[08:56] <gad3> thx Tm_T
[08:57] <nikita> hey =) how can I UNmount ntfs partitions?
[08:57] <Tm_T> nikita: umount
[08:57] <Tm_T> mount - umount is toolpair
[08:58] <nikita> Tm_T: now i know that, thanks a lot =)
[09:03] <bushito> when i try to download  file, it downloads the binary and open it with kate, but i want the file not the binary....
[09:04] <bushito> any way to fix this?
[09:07] <prxq> right click on link and do 'save as'
[09:08] <bushito> i dont get the save as option
[09:08] <Tm_T> sampan: krhm
[09:08] <sampan> tm_t ;P  sorry
[09:08] <bushito> i only get the save link as
[09:08] <sampan> bushito  are you using firefox or konq?
[09:08] <bushito> sampan: konq
[09:09] <sampan> bushito  is there a "copy to" line when you right click?
[09:09] <Tm_T> sampan: I think I remember I warned you...
[09:09] <sampan> tm_t, i must have forgotten about that part ...
[09:09] <sampan> ;x
[09:09] <Tm_T> ;)
[09:09] <bushito> sampan: yes, but it saves it as a download.php
[09:10] <shpprd> Tm_T: are you still here? :)
[09:10] <sampan> bushito  hrmmmm...not sure then.  got a url?
[09:10] <trappist> bushito: the link is apparently to a php file that processes the request into a download.  usually you have to just click those.
[09:10] <Tm_T> shpprd: should I?
[09:11] <bushito> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=33541
[09:11] <shpprd> don't know:)
[09:11] <bushito> http://www.kde-look.org/content/download.php?content=33541&id=1
[09:11] <Tm_T> if you have something for me, say it quick
[09:11] <bushito> the second link
[09:11] <bushito> =)
[09:11] <shpprd> i should use adept to install more packages?
[09:12] <Tm_T> or apt-get or aptitude or... there's many tools for that
[09:13] <shpprd> ok, and another one: is there something like konsole - super user and what cmd should i write to become a root?
[09:13] <shpprd> and is there an root pwd?
[09:13] <Tm_T> ubotu: tell shpprd about sudo
[09:13] <sampan> bushito  yeah that does the same for me (second link and even first and then clicking on the download button).  seems like a bug on that particular page?
[09:13] <bushito> sampan: i see..... oh well
[09:14] <Tm_T> ok, good night people, daddy's have to sleep ;--P =>>
[09:14] <sampan> night tm_t
[09:14] <shpprd> GN :)
[09:18] <bushito> how can i active kde real transparency =)?
[09:20] <laga> hi! i installed kubuntu-desktop on my ubuntu breezy badger. now i can't use the multimedia keys on my laptop anymore. it looks like the scripts in the acpi-support package turn them into fake X events. i can see them with Xev, but i can't use them, for example, to assign shortcuts to various kmix actions (e.g. lowering the volume)
[09:21] <laga> i'm running kde 3.5 from ftp.kde.org in case it matters
[09:21] <laga> err, i forgot the question. how do i make those keys/X events usable in kde?
[09:22] <ClayG> hey how do you reconfigure the supported resolutions for Xwindows but in the CLI?
[09:23] <tr1gg3r> laga, select ur keyboard lay in the control center under keyboard layouts
[09:24] <tr1gg3r> laga, lay=layout
[09:24] <tr1gg3r> ClayG, edit ur xorg.conf
[09:24] <ClayG> I'm not using xorg yet
[09:25] <ClayG> I'm using the older one, I need to upgrade but I want to get in first
[09:25] <laga> tr1gg3r: those keys are not part of a normal keyboard. they're supported by acpi. ubuntu/acpi-support just turns them into X events.
[09:25] <tr1gg3r> then edit ur xf86 config file, called XFree86Config maybe
[09:26] <bushito> how can i enable kde real transparency?
[09:26] <ClayG> XF86Config-4
[09:26] <laga> the config file is likely called /etc/X11/XF86Config-4, ClayG, but i could be wrong. maybe a dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xfree86 or the like helps as well
[09:26] <ClayG> that look rihgt?
[09:26] <tr1gg3r> laga, if i select the right layout for my laptop xev will see my multimedia keys, other wise it wont, give it a shot
[09:26] <ClayG> Thanks guys
[09:26] <Paradox^> how to create a Rescue Boot disk in linux?
[09:27] <ClayG> tried to dpkg-recon it butit didnt work
[09:27] <laga> tr1gg3r: xev sees the keys. i just cannot map them to any actions.
[09:27] <tr1gg3r> laga, use khotkeys, or hotkeys, or lineage (that might be mispelled)
[09:28] <laga> tr1gg3r: thanks, i'll give it a shot
[09:28] <ClayG> http://hostdestroyer.com/paste/view.php?id=38
[09:28] <tr1gg3r> laga, if they are multimedia keys, tho they should be seen as something like xf86Volup xf86VolDown etc
[09:28] <ClayG> can i just erase the problem resolution? out of each line it appears?
[09:29] <kkathman> Paradox^:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RescueDiskHowto?highlight=%28Rescue%29%7C%28Disk%29
[09:29] <laga> tr1gg3r: they are not. the acpi-support scripts execute, for example, 'acpi_fakekey 176' which will send an event with keycode '176' to X (i believe)
[09:31] <tr1gg3r> laga, hmmm, on my laptop my vol and mute keys are seen as Xf86Mute etc, but i had to select the right layout for that to work
[09:31] <C-O-L-T> kkathman: still there/
[09:32] <chx> I find Klipper very useful and I see it can be set to hold a real lot of entries -- but navigating them would be prett much impossible
[09:32] <kkathman> off to chicago...cyall
[09:33] <laga> tr1gg3r: you're a lucky boy then :). well, maybe someone else will have a solution for me, thanks for your time :)
[09:33] <tr1gg3r> laga, also it may or may not matter but u may want to try the kubuntu kde pkgs and not those kde.org, the kubuntu ones may set all of that up for u, but im not really sure as ive not tried the ones from kde.org
[09:33] <tr1gg3r> np
[09:33] <laga> tr1gg3r: i tried it with kde 3.4 (kubuntu stuff) and that didn't work as well
[09:39] <shwag> how do I edit the sudoers file?
[09:39] <theine> shwag, visudo
[09:40] <theine> shwag, so in ubuntu: sudo visudo
[09:44] <C-O-L-T> how to reinstall gnome if I deleted it and now I can not use gnome just kde
[09:45] <laga> C-O-L-T: aptitude install ubuntu-desktop might work. keep in mind that you may have to remove the kubuntu-desktop meta package before you install ubuntu-desktop.
[09:45] <C-O-L-T> laga: i need both of them
[09:45] <laga> C-O-L-T: and make sure to take a look at aptitude's output. we don't want it to delete all your packages, do we? :)
[09:46] <laga> C-O-L-T: kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-desktop are just meta packages. you should be able to remove them safely.
[09:46] <C-O-L-T> laga: i need just gnome not the whole ubuntu
[09:48] <laga> C-O-L-T: you already have the 'whole ubuntu'. installing ubuntu-desktop will just install the missing gnome pieces, i think.
[09:48] <macd> it will.
[09:48] <laga> great. i don't have much experience with ubuntu ;)
[09:48] <_nikita> hello =) mmm, i have a problem with XMMS player. whenever i try to change the level of volume from there it doesn't change. however, i can change the loudness from KMix. can anyone help me?
[09:48] <C-O-L-T> laga: I have asked them at #ubuntu they say as you
[09:48] <C-O-L-T> laga: sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[09:49] <C-O-L-T> laga: is it ok?
[09:49] <macd> _nikita: in XMMS there are settings for the default mixer device, youll need to change those.
[09:49] <macd> C-O-L-T: yes
[09:51] <C-O-L-T> macd: kpresenter can not open ppt?
[09:51] <laga> C-O-L-T: sounds good
[09:51] <_nikita> macd: mmm, where should i do that? the preference sheet in XMMS?
[09:51] <macd> _nikita: yeah, I dont remember exactly where, as I use amarok
[09:52] <macd> C-O-L-T: hmmm, thats a new on me, try the unbuntu forums
[09:52] <_nikita> macd: amarok? can it play MP3?
[09:52] <macd> it can play anaything, it uses the gstreamer backend
[09:52] <laga> are there two different acpi-support packages, one for ubuntu and one for kubuntu? i yet have to find any evidence, but it never hurts to ask knowledgeable people ;)
[09:53] <_nikita> macd: ohhh, okey :D thanks a lot
[09:53] <macd>  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats intructions on howto install alternate codecs
[09:53] <macd> laga: no, kubuntu is unbuntu KDE>
[09:53] <prxq> is there any reasin why ps would hang?
[09:53] <Red_Herring> when is easyubuntu FINALLY GONNA BE FINISHED?!?!?!?!?!?
[09:53] <laga> macd: ok, thanks
[09:54] <Red_Herring> its been "soon" for a while now
[09:54] <macd> Red_Herring:  goto #ubuntu-devel and ask :)
[09:54] <Red_Herring> i did
[09:54] <Red_Herring> they said soon
[09:54] <Daftdog> can anyone tell me where i can find the roadmap for k/ubuntu?
[09:54] <Red_Herring> i even went to #easyubuntu
[09:55] <Red_Herring> they said "soon"
[09:55] <macd> well, then soon is as soon comes
[09:55] <macd> Daftdog: I think release notes have a future feature list
[09:55] <macd> if your looking for a release roadmap, I remember seeing one, but I dont know where
[09:56] <Red_Herring> !roadmap
[09:56] <ubotu> Red_Herring: NO SPEAKE ENLISH!
[09:56] <Red_Herring> !kubuntu roadmap
[09:56] <ubotu> I haven't a clue, Red_Herring
[09:57] <Red_Herring> !kubuntu-roadmap
[09:57] <ubotu> Wish i knew, Red_Herring
[09:57] <Red_Herring> stupid ubuntulog
[09:57] <Red_Herring> ubotu
[09:57] <Daftdog> i remember seeing one too but i can't find it anymore
[09:57] <Daftdog> ... anybody remember when breezy was released?
[09:58] <bushito> "configure: error: Library requirements (xcomposite xfixes xdamage xrender) not met;", can anyone help me please =)?
[09:58] <macd> bushito: are you using Dapper?
[09:58] <bushito> macd: no...
[09:58] <Daftdog> if the cycle is 6 months i might be able to calculate the release of dapper drake
[09:58] <bushito> macd: kubuntu breezy 5.10
[09:58] <macd> bushito: tried the forums yet?
[09:59] <bushito> macd: not really
[09:59] <macd> Id recommend that, they are ery usefull :)
[09:59] <kmon> hello, I'm using kubuntu dapper to try and help with bugs and I'm having a problem with apt, I can't update due to a corrupted package: bsh
[10:00] <macd> kmon: try using dpkg instead and force install it
[10:00] <macd> or rebuild/update your apt sources
[10:00] <Red_Herring> kmon: aptitude
[10:00] <kmon> aptitude & apt fail
[10:00] <kmon> both
[10:01] <laga> aptitude -f install maybe?
[10:01] <kmon> It says the index files in the package are corrupted, the field 'filename' doesn't exist for the package bsh
[10:01] <macd> then try dpkg to reinstal the package
[10:01] <macd> dpkg suceeds where apt fails
[10:01] <kmon> i'll need to download the package somehow...
[10:02] <Lord_Athur> hi all
[10:02] <macd> kmon: just goto to packages.ubuntu.com
[10:02] <kmon> ok, I'm going to try it now...
[10:02] <Red_Herring> anyone tried aptitude
[10:02] <tristanmike> Is it possible to get visualizations for Amarok?
[10:02] <Red_Herring> i heard it works great
[10:03] <macd> from time to time
[10:03] <kmon> aptitude is fine
[10:03] <tristanmike> aptitude was ok for me
[10:04] <tristanmike> Is it possible to get visualizations for Amarok?
[10:04] <tristanmike> sorry, wrong window
[10:04] <cplusplus> hi red_herring
[10:05] <Red_Herring> hey
[10:05] <Red_Herring> still using neighbors wireless
[10:05] <Red_Herring> cept this time its much clearer
[10:05] <cplusplus> ;)
[10:05] <Red_Herring> yup
[10:05] <cplusplus> do you have kde 3.5?
[10:05] <kmon> I'm still having the same problem
[10:05] <_nikita> macd: when i'm trying to play an MP3 in Amarok it says that gst_engine cannot play MP3 files, does that mean that i have to install smth else?
[10:06] <Red_Herring> cplusplus: i used to have kde3.5
[10:06] <Red_Herring> but be warned
[10:06] <kmon> I've donwloaded the package bsh & installed it with dpkg
[10:06] <Red_Herring> its not that special
[10:06] <cplusplus> why?
[10:06] <Red_Herring> and its buggy
[10:06] <macd> _nikita: yes, I posted a link to restrictedformats for you
[10:06] <kmon> but apt continues to fail
[10:06] <kmon> :(
[10:06] <cplusplus> true
[10:06] <tristanmike> _nikita, have you installed "gstreamer0.8-mad"?
[10:06] <Red_Herring> just minor changes
[10:06] <Red_Herring> kmon: try aptitude to install it
[10:06] <Red_Herring> sudo aptitide install <whatever>
[10:06] <kmon> the same problems occurs with aptitude
[10:06] <Red_Herring> oh well
[10:06] <Red_Herring> i tried
[10:07] <cplusplus> do i have to install samba manually?
[10:07] <Red_Herring> yup
[10:07] <kmon> Escribiendo informacin de estado extendido... Error!
[10:07] <kmon> E: Los archivos de ndice de paquetes estn corrompidos. El campo 'Filename:' no existe para para el paquete bsh.
[10:07] <kmon> E: No se pudo bloquear el directorio de listas...es el administrador?
[10:07] <pollomix> #kubuntu-es
[10:07] <Red_Herring> its not that hard though
[10:07] <tristanmike> kmon, just a guess, try closing synaptic
[10:07] <kmon> I'm using kubuntu
[10:07] <pollomix> alguien sabe como puedo reproducir mis archivos mp3
[10:08] <kmon> I'm not using any other package manager
[10:08] <macd> and adept is inept
[10:08] <Red_Herring> i hate adept
[10:08] <_nikita> macd: ok, sorry didn't see that=)
[10:08] <macd> np.
[10:08] <elsa> hi all
[10:08] <_nikita> tristanmike: macd helped me already, thanks =)
[10:09] <tristanmike> _nikita, np, thought I'd throw my 2 cents in, glad to see you're sorted out
[10:10] <tristanmike> kmon, well, to be honest, it was just a guess, I can't understand any other language than english :)
[10:10] <elsa> my konqueror browser doesn't reload I'm new with kubuntum does someone know what could be wrong?
[10:11] <kmon> it says: The files for the package index are corrupted. The field "filename" doesn not exist for bsh
[10:12] <kmon> I've googled for a solution
[10:12] <kmon> but didn't find anything
[10:12] <kmon> and apt man doesn't clarify anything...
[10:12] <tristanmike> kmon, what's the package, got a link so I can check it out, but to let you know now, I'm no guru...
[10:13] <kmon> I've tried apt-cache clear
[10:13] <kmon> but nothing...
[10:13] <kmon> I need an experienced apt problem solver :)
[10:13] <Red_Herring> ok... i missed the beginning of this
[10:13] <Red_Herring> whats the exact problem, kmon
[10:13] <tristanmike> so did I
[10:14] <kmon> the problem is this: I'm using dapper. And suddently yesterday it failed to update
[10:14] <kmon> when I apt-get update && aprt-get dist-upgrade
[10:14] <kmon> I get an error
[10:14] <tristanmike> ahhh, dapper
[10:14] <kmon> it says: The files for the package index are corrupted. The field "filename" doesn not exist for bsh
[10:14] <kmon> (translated from spanish)
[10:15] <kmon> and it exits
[10:15] <Red_Herring> kmon: then its a bug in apt-get
[10:15] <kmon> aptitude has the same error
[10:15] <Red_Herring> i heard there was c++ issues
[10:15] <Red_Herring> then its a dpkg error
[10:15] <Red_Herring> its a big bug
[10:15] <Red_Herring> that cant be solved by apt
[10:15] <Red_Herring> because dpkg is the problem
[10:15] <Red_Herring> not sure how to fix it
[10:16] <kmon> I've tried installing the package manually, downloading it & using dpkg
[10:16] <Red_Herring> and also, i would get a second opinion on this
[10:16] <kmon> everything when ok
[10:16] <kmon> went
[10:16] <kmon> but, apt still fails
[10:16] <kmon> same error
[10:16] <kmon> aptitude aswell
[10:16] <Red_Herring> well... then its a library that aptitude and apt-get share
[10:16] <kmon> I've filed a bug about it in malone but no answer yet
[10:16] <kmon> :(
[10:17] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[10:17] <belty> howdy
[10:17] <Red_Herring> hi
[10:18] <belty> sup
[10:18] <Red_Herring> nm
[10:18] <Red_Herring> you?
[10:18] <belty> im ok
[10:18] <belty> tryiing to figure this thing out
[10:18] <Red_Herring> having to use your neighbor's unencrypted internet suck
[10:19] <Red_Herring> :-(
[10:19] <belty> hehe
[10:20] <belty> how do i find other servers like efnet
[10:20] <belty> enyone know
[10:20] <Red_Herring> not sure
[10:20] <Red_Herring> sorry
[10:20] <kmon> I'm asking in #ubuntu to see if someone can help
[10:20] <belty> oki
[10:20] <belty> im a totaly newbie at this os
[10:21] <belty> wooping 2 days now
[10:21] <belty> :)
[10:21] <Red_Herring> thats ok
[10:21] <Red_Herring> i use ubuntu for almost everything
[10:22] <belty> i tried ubuntu but didnt like the gnome
[10:22] <cplusplus> red_herring do you hava a intel processor?
[10:23] <Red_Herring> for my laptop
[10:23] <Red_Herring> i have a p4
[10:23] <cplusplus> can oyu paste me your sources.list?
[10:23] <Red_Herring> im just using the default
[10:23] <Red_Herring> i had to scrub this hard drive :-(
[10:23] <cplusplus> did you umcomment somth?
[10:23] <cplusplus> un
[10:23] <Red_Herring> yeah
[10:24] <cplusplus> please past it!
[10:24] <Red_Herring> hold on
[10:24] <cplusplus> okk
[10:24] <kmon> here's the complete output:
[10:24] <kmon> http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/7629
[10:25] <Red_Herring> wait, cplusplus, do ya want kde.3.5?
[10:25] <cplusplus> no
[10:25] <cplusplus> but umcomment this line
[10:25] <cplusplus> maybe i need it in future
[10:26] <Red_Herring> http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/522964
[10:26] <cplusplus> where is the line for kde 3.5?
[10:27] <Red_Herring> i told you
[10:27] <Red_Herring> i dont have it
[10:27] <Red_Herring> but heres where ya get it
[10:27] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5
[10:27] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[10:27] <Red_Herring> good ubotu
[10:27] <belty> well got to go cya
[10:28] <kmon> kde 3.5 has just been released in the personal repo of jriddle to test it out in dapper
[10:28] <kmon> sorry
[10:28] <kmon> 3.5.1
[10:29] <Red_Herring> really?
[10:29] <Red_Herring> i wouldnt try it
[10:29] <Red_Herring> 3.5 dapper is buggy enough as it is
[10:29] <cplusplus> ok thx
[10:29] <tristanmike> there's a KDE 3.5 for Breezy
[10:29] <Red_Herring> i know
[10:29] <Red_Herring> but i would SERIOUSLY recommend not trying it
[10:30] <tristanmike> just sayin'
[10:30] <kmon> well... depending if you're using dapper for testing or for your desktop
[10:30] <Red_Herring> its backported
[10:30] <poimen> someone kwons how to make a iso in linux?
[10:30] <cplusplus> red_herring are you a programer?
[10:30] <Red_Herring> not much of one
[10:30] <kmon> poimen: with k3b
[10:30] <kmon> ?
[10:30] <Red_Herring> i know cplusplus pretty well
[10:30] <poimen> it does a img
[10:30] <Red_Herring> and im learning java now
[10:30] <poimen> not a .iso
[10:31] <cplusplus> i need some c++/java/c# tools
[10:31] <Red_Herring> and i know html, some css, javascript, and some python
[10:31] <cplusplus> kdevelop3 is good?
[10:31] <Red_Herring> uhh, i would go w/ kdevelope
[10:31] <Red_Herring> or try ajunta
[10:31] <Red_Herring> for c++
[10:31] <cplusplus> do you use boost?
[10:31] <Red_Herring> whatever java program for java
[10:31] <Red_Herring> boost?
[10:31] <Red_Herring> no
[10:32] <Puaff> cplusplus, are you developing on mono?
[10:32] <cplusplus> yes
[10:32] <cplusplus> but i used windows before
[10:32] <cplusplus> for c#
[10:33] <tristanmike> can someone help me with Visualizations for Amarok?
[10:33] <Red_Herring> isnt there a package for it?
[10:33] <cplusplus> Boost provides free peer-reviewed portable C++ source libraries.
[10:33] <tristanmike> I don't know, this is why I asked. Amarok says there is, but it's not listed in the "official" repos
[10:33] <cplusplus> monodevelope
[10:33] <cplusplus> is for c#
[10:33] <Red_Herring> tristanmike: did you try the universe?
[10:34] <cplusplus> is qt4 stable for kubuntu?
[10:34] <Red_Herring> yup
[10:34] <tristanmike> yeah, of course, . and the backports, just the official ones
[10:34] <cplusplus> which version is it?
[10:34] <tristanmike> I didn't check the "backports-extras", not yet, I want to see if there is something official first, I'm sure you'd understand
[10:34] <cplusplus> 4.1 ?
[10:35] <cplusplus> libqt4-core ?
[10:36] <cplusplus> only libqt4-gui i will need?
[10:38] <Puaff> cplusplus, do you use C# for gui apps?
[10:39] <cplusplus> not at all
[10:39] <cplusplus> i prefer c++
[10:39] <macd> C# is a curse word in my book this week
[10:39] <cplusplus> qt, mfc ,..
[10:40] <leafw> my kubuntu-ppc has suddentl decided not to mount firewire disks anymore
[10:41] <Red_Herring> that sucks, any idea why?
[10:41] <leafw> and there is no entry for 'sda' in /dev/
[10:41] <leafw> Red_Herring: any clue how to go about mounting manually? I can't call sudo mount /dev/sda1 /media/sda1
[10:41] <leafw> because /dev/ doesn't have it
[10:41] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[10:42] <Red_Herring> not sure about that one
[10:42] <Red_Herring> i dont even have firewire
[10:42] <leafw> maybe it's a conflict
[10:42] <leafw> I haven't rebooted yet
[10:42] <leafw> I did a kernel upgrade
[10:42] <leafw> I'll check that.
[10:48] <_thom> hello
[10:50] <cplusplus> red_herring i installed now my printer hp officejet 510
[10:51] <cplusplus> 5610
[10:51] <cplusplus> i now tested the scanning option
[10:51] <Red_Herring> sweet
[10:51] <thompa> hi
[10:51] <Red_Herring> did it work?
[10:51] <cplusplus> and got the message there is no scanning option
[10:51] <Red_Herring> its supposed to have hp prtinting system
[10:51] <cplusplus> why?
[10:51] <Red_Herring> did you install a scanningn program?
[10:51] <kmon> for the record: https://launchpad.net/distros/ubuntu/+source/bsh/+bug/29625
[10:51] <cplusplus> under windows it worked before
[10:52] <cplusplus> no
[10:52] <cplusplus> i though openoffice support it?
[10:52] <Red_Herring> i dont know
[10:52] <Red_Herring> sorry, but my only scanner is my parents
[10:52] <Red_Herring> on the family box
[10:52] <cplusplus> can you prefer me a scanning program?
[10:52] <Red_Herring> that i really should experament on
[10:52] <Red_Herring> sane?
[10:52] <trappist> cplusplus: xsane
[10:53] <cplusplus> thanks
[10:53] <hatake_kakashi> is there a possibiilty to force install even though it has unmet dependencies? the problem is that there are some packages that are not going to be installed and there are already other packages which I already have?
[10:54] <Red_Herring> hatake_kakashi: try it using aptitude
[10:54] <itsmeeh> must go today 1 alienware area51-m 5700 laptop price 650 includes shipping, carry case. message me on mcsltd@telusmail.net on msn or on mikcomputing on aim
[10:54] <thompa> i just installed kubuntu and did a dist-upgrade, is there supposed to be a kernel upgrade?
[10:54] <tristanmike> "apt-get install --force package" I believe....
[10:54] <Red_Herring> itsmeeh: didnt ya say that a couple days ago?
[10:54] <hatake_kakashi> Red_Herring: ta
[10:55] <hatake_kakashi> tristanmike: apt-get -f install ?
[10:55] <Red_Herring> -f isnt force
[10:55] <tristanmike> I think it has to be "--force"
[10:55] <trappist> --force-all
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> hmm, thanks
[10:56] <thompa> "its --force"
[10:56] <hatake_kakashi> I've just come across onto a bigger problem lol :S
[10:57] <tristanmike> thanx crimsun
[10:57] <thompa> sorry ".* --force"
[10:58] <thompa> do you know where the kernel update comes from?
[10:59] <hatake_kakashi> repos?
[10:59] <leafw> didn't help to reboot. Any idea anyone why breezy should stop mounting firewire disks ?
[10:59] <hatake_kakashi> bah
[10:59] <leafw> where are the kded config files ?
[11:05] <cplusplus> red_herring: why does my sharing of the printer dont work? http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/fTYmoR16.html
[11:05] <Red_Herring> wha wah wha
[11:05] <Red_Herring> sorry
[11:06] <leafw> which module holds the the susmte servces?
[11:06] <leafw> sorry, the system services, in adept ?
[11:06] <leafw> which package?
[11:06] <leafw> it fails to load.
[11:06] <Red_Herring> try samba
[11:06] <leafw> and asks for a reinstall.
[11:06] <Red_Herring> apt-get install samba
[11:06] <Red_Herring> not samba common
[11:06] <Red_Herring> which is a different package
[11:06] <Red_Herring> samba has the daemons
[11:06] <Red_Herring> that are necessary
[11:06] <cplusplus> Red_Herring ?
[11:07] <Red_Herring> do ya have samba installed?
[11:07] <cplusplus> i did apt-get install samba !!
[11:07] <Red_Herring> oh
[11:07] <Red_Herring> ok
[11:07] <Red_Herring> sorry, ive half been here
[11:07] <cplusplus> oh now works!
[11:07] <cplusplus> ;)
[11:07] <Red_Herring> wow
[11:07] <cplusplus> 1 line was wrong!
[11:07] <Red_Herring> so i helped?
[11:07] <Red_Herring> glad to help
[11:07] <cplusplus> path
[11:08] <cplusplus> path = /var/lib/samba/printers
[11:08] <Red_Herring> there is a path /var/spool/samba?
[11:08] <Red_Herring> yeah
[11:08] <cplusplus> is that not the same?
[11:08] <Red_Herring> that makes more sense
[11:08] <HeadUp`> < <<< <<< <Merc.Et Fr
[11:08] <Red_Herring> they are very different
[11:09] <Red_Herring> in the eyes of a samba daemon
[11:13] <leafw> help!
[11:13] <leafw> xD
[11:13] <leafw> system services module doesn't load
[11:13] <leafw> and asks to be reinstalled
[11:13] <leafw> and I have zero clue as to which package name it has
[11:13] <Red_Herring> wow
[11:13] <Red_Herring> thats odd
[11:13] <leafw> nor does google know
[11:13] <leafw> odd and annoying
[11:13] <Red_Herring> module??
[11:13] <Red_Herring> thats in linux-restriced modules
[11:14] <Red_Herring> just re-install the kernel
[11:14] <leafw> I did that.
[11:14] <Red_Herring> i *think*
[11:14] <leafw> didnt help.
[11:14] <Red_Herring> did ya try using 2.6.9?
[11:14] <leafw> "The module System Services could not be loaded"
[11:14] <leafw> in the System Settings app.
[11:14] <Red_Herring> oooooo
[11:14] <leafw> 2.6.9 ? Downgrade ?
[11:14] <Red_Herring> in the system settings program!
[11:14] <leafw> it use to work
[11:14] <Red_Herring> nvm
[11:15] <Red_Herring> thats easyer
[11:15] <leafw> yes, in the system settings program
[11:15] <leafw> easier as in no docs anywhere
[11:15] <leafw> if you have any clue, i'd aprreciate
[11:15] <Red_Herring> did ya try and re-install system-settings?
[11:15] <leafw> no
[11:15] <leafw> I will
[11:16] <leafw> it complains about "an old module is around or there is a missconfiguration"
[11:16] <Red_Herring> those "modules" are in fact acually just other apps
[11:16] <leafw> I know
[11:16] <Red_Herring> but do a complete removal
[11:16] <leafw> they can be run independently
[11:16] <leafw> but I don't know the name of them
[11:16] <leafw> !!
[11:16] <ubotu> ??
[11:16] <Red_Herring> with all the config files too
[11:16] <leafw> nor is it listed anywhere
[11:16] <Red_Herring> thats ok
[11:16] <Red_Herring> all of teh modules are included in the systemsettings package
[11:17] <Red_Herring> kde-systemsettings
[11:18] <leafw> and where in the world are the config files for the kded media manager
[11:18] <leafw> I found them once
[11:18] <leafw> but not anymore
[11:18] <Red_Herring> hmmm
[11:18] <leafw> not even with a full cd / && grep -rn "autoload" *
[11:18] <Red_Herring> if ya do a complete removal, it will reinstall those
[11:18] <Red_Herring> config files
[11:18] <leafw> Red_Herring: I am not going to do a complete removal, as you may understand.
[11:18] <Red_Herring> why?
[11:18] <ph0rg3> help - I need the kernel sources for 2.6.12 to build cisco vpn client...the kernel sources are not on the cd
[11:18] <thompa> how can i get kde 3.5? the link seems to not work?
[11:19] <Red_Herring> !kde3.5
[11:19] <ubotu> To upgrade to KDE3.5, Follow the instructions at http://kubuntu.org/announcements/kde-35.php (add the deb... line to your sources.list). Then "sudo apt-get update" and "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade".
[11:19] <Red_Herring> look at the LAST STEP here
[11:19] <Red_Herring> add the deb... line to your sources.list
[11:19] <thompa> ive done it before
[11:19] <thompa> but its not working
[11:19] <Red_Herring> hmm
[11:19] <thompa> maybe its down
[11:19] <Red_Herring> it works fine for me
[11:19] <Red_Herring> what error did ya get?
[11:20] <thompa> this is the link http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/
[11:20] <thompa> i tried the other one too
[11:20] <Red_Herring> no, thats teh deb line
[11:20] <thompa> let me try it again
[11:21] <thompa> ill try yht announcement one again
[11:21] <Red_Herring> you add deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/ ... to your sources.list
[11:21] <thompa> right i did
[11:21] <Red_Herring> well... occasionally they go down
[11:22] <Red_Herring> but for an official one to...
[11:22] <Red_Herring> thats odd
[11:22] <nikita> macd: it's me again, i've just killed my system =)) now it's freeesh. can you explain how to fix this volume problem in amarok (when i change the volume in amorok the actual level of volume doesn't change)?
[11:22] <thompa> eror "could not download index"..
[11:22] <Red_Herring> are you using breezy?
[11:22] <thompa> W: Couldn't stat source package list http://kubuntu.org deb/breezy
[11:23] <macd> nikita: hold one sec, I'll bring mine up
[11:23] <Red_Herring> nikita: arent those always separate?
[11:23] <thompa> its 5.10 yes
[11:23] <keherman> Anyone seen these FONTCONFIG errors???
[11:23] <thompa> just installe it
[11:23] <HeadUp`> Merc.Et Fr NoW NoW MnT
[11:23] <Red_Herring> keherman: what fonts?
[11:24] <thompa> also the amarok update package repos link is not workng
[11:24] <thompa> it was like 10 minutes ago
[11:24] <keherman> Install server package --> apt update --> apt upgrade -> apt install kubuntu-destop --> during setup see tons of fontconfig "cannot load the default config file"
[11:24] <nikita> Red_Herring: frankly? have no clue =) but the thing is that when i change volume in the program i can't hear any change in the actual volume, so it's like doesn't work =)
[11:25] <nikita> macd: ok =)
[11:25] <Red_Herring> thompa: i actually have no clue whats going on there...
[11:25] <Red_Herring> nikita: ya using arts?
[11:25] <Red_Herring> or (shudder) esd
[11:25] <thompa> Red_Herring: but can you tell that there is some problem from the source?
[11:26] <keherman> Red_Herring, any ideas about those errors?
[11:26] <Red_Herring> paste the sources.list line that has the kde things
[11:26] <hatake_kakashi> just a question of curiousity, is it possible to get all the packages via a specific arch no matter what? and does kde3.5 come in i686? :)
[11:26] <nikita> Red_Herring: i believe no =)
[11:26] <macd> nikita: under amarok --> settings
[11:26] <Red_Herring> nikita: unless you specifically change that, you are using aRTs
[11:26] <thompa> the web site seems to be working
[11:27] <ph0rg3> anyone: Is there a repository for the 2.6.12 kernel source used for Kubuntu
[11:27] <macd> configure amarok --> engine --> output plugin, should match your kmixer device
[11:27] <Red_Herring> im not very good with fonts, i always use standard ones, and never have problems with them
[11:27] <thompa> packages/kde35/dists/deb/breezy/binary-i386/Packages.gz: 404 Not Found
[11:27] <Red_Herring> so im afraid i cant help you much there, sorry
[11:27] <thompa> thats weird
[11:28] <nikita> macd: aha
[11:28] <Red_Herring> thompa: go into /etc/apt/sources.list
[11:28] <macd> I dont think kde35 is in breezy
[11:28] <thompa> ok
[11:28] <macd> Im still on kde34
[11:28] <nikita> Red_Herring: i didn't change that for sure
[11:28] <Red_Herring> and paste the line that has deb <something that has kubuntu and kde3.5>
[11:29] <Red_Herring> there is a special line that adds it
[11:29] <Red_Herring> and i think you have the wrong one pasted
[11:29] <thompa> deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde35/ deb breezy
[11:30] <Red_Herring> oh, did ya add the gpg key?
[11:30] <thompa> amarok i added and it was fine and upgraded
[11:31] <thompa> i did not change that one and its the same error
[11:31] <Red_Herring> ya need Riddell's key
[11:31] <thompa> oh
[11:31] <thompa> i did that and it seemed ok
[11:31] <thompa> let me try it again
[11:32] <thompa> i forgot to sudo it seems
[11:32] <thompa> lol
[11:32] <thompa> nevermind
[11:32] <Red_Herring> hmm
[11:32] <Red_Herring> thats ok
[11:33] <thompa> i just did not read the text and was working fast. "permission denied"
[11:33] <thompa> so i thought it completed
[11:34] <Red_Herring> thats ok
[11:34] <Red_Herring> it happens to all of us
[11:34] <Red_Herring> (well... some of us)
[11:34] <LeeJunFan> anybody else here with dapper/amarok? apparently amarok-xine is no worky?
[11:35] <Red_Herring> LeeJunFan: dapper, no
[11:36] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: owell, looky there, it's working now. hehe.
[11:37] <Red_Herring> glad to have helped
[11:37] <Red_Herring> wow im so good at this
[11:38] <Red_Herring> :-)
[11:38] <LeeJunFan> Red_Herring: yeah thanks. You'll be on the christmas list for all your help :)
[11:38] <Red_Herring> christmas list?
[11:38] <Red_Herring> oh man, i have to keep this up for a whole year?
[11:39] <Red_Herring> jk
[11:40] <Red_Herring> its getting increasingly hard to do this w/ my neighbors connection
[11:40] <orion_fr_24> how can I run .jar (java) on kubuntu ??
[11:40] <Red_Herring> ya need to install java
[11:40] <Red_Herring> (duh)
[11:41] <orion_fr_24> Red_Herring: any idea of package to be installed ?
[11:41] <Red_Herring> oh
[11:41] <Red_Herring> !java
[11:41] <ubotu> To install Java/Sun Java see Java on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats and also see !javadebs
[11:41] <Red_Herring> allright,
[11:41] <Red_Herring> !javadebs
[11:41] <orion_fr_24> Red_Herring: ok thx
[11:41] <nikita> !flash
[11:41] <ubotu> hmm... restricted is https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RestrictedFormats  Most of the formats listed here have been replaced by !FreeFormats
[11:41] <Red_Herring> !win32codecs
[11:41] <ubotu> [win32codecs]  binary only codecs that some call evil., and they're available from http://seveas.ubuntulinux.nl/
[11:43] <HeadUp`> Merc.Et Fr NoW NoW MnT
[11:44] <_grigory> ubotu: tell nikita about flash
[11:44] <_grigory> ubotu: tell nikita about mozilla
[11:45] <_grigory> aww..
[11:46] <orion_fr_24> HeadUp`: now that I ve installed sudo apt-get install j2re1.4
[11:46] <orion_fr_24> HeadUp`: how can I run a .jar that is on my desktop
[11:46] <orion_fr_24> ?
[11:47] <HeadUp`> :)
[11:47] <trappist> orion_fr_24: java -jar /path/to/file.jar
[11:47] <Red_Herring> in the terminal try "java *.jar"
[11:47] <Red_Herring> ok
[11:47] <Red_Herring> that works too
[11:47] <trappist> Red_Herring: your way won't work :)
[11:47] <Red_Herring> sorry
[11:47] <Red_Herring> im just learning java
[11:47] <orion_fr_24> trappist: cool thx it works now
[11:48] <orion_fr_24> thanks a bunch
[11:48] <Red_Herring> all i have made is .java and .class files
[11:48] <trappist> Red_Herring: a .jar is just a zip file full of class files
[11:48] <Red_Herring> i know
[11:49] <Red_Herring> i just never made one
[11:49] <Red_Herring> so i never bothered to learn how to make one
[11:49] <orion_fr_24> Red_Herring: dont worry it s working thx to trappist
[11:49] <Red_Herring> good
[11:51] <slow-motion> n8
[11:52] <orion_fr_24> if you want to grab itunes library on your linux from you local network  I got something
[11:52] <orion_fr_24> itunes grabbing is possible on linux
[11:52] <orion_fr_24> anywone interested ask me