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[01:05] <HiddenWolf> Hi guys.
[01:06] <HiddenWolf> I'm looking through lsmod, and I can't figure which module is taking care of networking.
[01:07] <HiddenWolf> I'm trying to see which module to check for, since I don't think dapper-live is loading it. 
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[03:10] <mjg59> HiddenWolf: "Taking care of networking"?
[03:10] <mjg59> ipv4 is built in
[03:11] <HiddenWolf> mjg59: I'm trying to figure out how I can see if the driver for my network chip is loaded.
[03:11] <sn9> lsmod
[03:12] <HiddenWolf> yeah, I did lsmod, but I can't find anything that looks like a network driver.
[03:12] <HiddenWolf> nforce4 card
[03:12] <sn9> drivername: forcedeth
[03:12] <mjg59> Yeah, it's forcedeth for the dodgy nvidia stuff
[03:13] <HiddenWolf> 0000:00:0a.0 Bridge: nVidia Corporation CK804 Ethernet Controller (rev a3)
[03:13] <sn9> there is also nvidia'sm own driver
[03:13] <HiddenWolf> ah, forcedeth is loaded
[03:14] <HiddenWolf> I'll see if the dapper livecd does the same.
[03:17] <HiddenWolf> brb
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=== ..[topic/#ubuntu-kernel:BenC] : Ubuntu kernel development discussion ONLY | New git tree for dapper: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelGitGuide | 2.6.15-14.19 upload{ing,ed} (Quiet Serenity - AKA, "Hopefully the last ABI bump for awhile") | Daily Diet of Destruction: http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/
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[04:02] <mxpxpod> BenC: so, I take it you figured out the sleep issue?
[04:03] <BenC> yeah
[04:03] <mxpxpod> awesome
=== mxpxpod hopes the kernel is ready at lunch for download :)
[04:03] <BenC> I didn't have a chance to upload the .deb (my upload b/w is really low), but you should see .14 within a day
[04:03] <mxpxpod> BenC: sweet, thanks
[04:03] <BenC> sure thing
[04:04] <mxpxpod> BenC: now, about that bluetooth hid thing...
=== BenC is off for an early lunch
[04:04] <mxpxpod> heh
[04:04] <BenC> oh, I am going to get a bluetooth mouse on my lunch break :)
[04:04] <BenC> I'll have that figured out soon
[04:04] <mxpxpod> suhweet
=== mxpxpod would hug BenC, but doesn't know him well enough so just shakes his hand
[04:04] <BenC> I'll take any excuse to buy new hardware...makes it easier to convince my wife :)
[04:05] <mxpxpod> :D
[04:05] <BenC> "But mpxpoad can't use his scroll wheel...you want him to be able to use his scroll wheel, don't you?"
[04:05] <mxpxpod> now there's a good excuse if I've ever heard one ;)
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[04:57] <lamont__> hrm... new kernel.
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[05:52] <dilinger> is ndiswrapper 1.8 in 14.19?
[05:56] <dilinger> and is 14.19 available somewhere yet?
[05:57] <zul> have you tried daily kernels?
[05:57] <zul> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily
[05:57] <dilinger> http://people.ubuntu.com/~bcollins/kernels-daily/20-01-2006/i386/
[05:57] <dilinger> 13.19
[05:57] <dilinger> no abi bump
[05:57] <sn9> 14.19 is out? where's the changelog?
[05:57] <zul> oh..
[05:58] <dilinger> sn9: /topic
[05:59] <sn9> it says upload{ing,ed}
[06:03] <zul> http://kernel.org/git/?p=linux/kernel/git/bcollins/ubuntu-2.6.git;a=blob;h=234d6ababa5bbc2ab9593981fad754c33e267a2e;hb=71bfab2f7f42806da679986e3098964b0e348b2c;f=debian/changelog
[06:05] <sn9> thanx
[06:06] <dilinger> hm, no mention of ndis 1.8
[06:07] <sn9> no mention of i2c bugs either
[06:10] <sn9> any ETA to a powerpc .deb of this version?
[06:19] <zul> soon..
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[07:14] <HiddenWolf> Guys, can anyone help me figure out if I'm having a regression from Breezy here or if I'm just doing something wrong.
[07:16] <sn9> maybe you're doing something regressively wrong :)
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> Possible. :)
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> I just upgraded breezy > dapper. Went smooth, save libnotify.
[07:16] <HiddenWolf> My tvcard now only produces a tearing noise, like there is static
[07:17] <HiddenWolf> Haven't changed the hardware, same software, same settings.
[07:17] <HiddenWolf> 0000:05:08.1 Multimedia controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Audio Capture (rev 11)
[07:17] <sn9> did you dist-upgrade, or just the kernel?
[07:17] <HiddenWolf> 0000:05:08.0 Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture (rev 11)
[07:17] <HiddenWolf> dist-upgrade
[07:18] <sn9> that was likely a big mistake at this stage
[07:18] <HiddenWolf> Everything else is smooth. :)
[07:19] <HiddenWolf> why would it be a _big_ mistake? 
[07:19] <sn9> no easy way to go back when things go wrong
[07:20] <HiddenWolf> I tested with a livecd, this was the only thing I couldn't test, and the only thing that went wrong. 
[07:21] <HiddenWolf> So I'm trying to get together the data, figure out if it's kernel or something else, and file a bug.
[07:21] <sn9> i installed breezy in july, and endured a lot of brokenness until release
[07:22] <HiddenWolf> Save for the tvcard-sound and my multimedia keys, it's less broken than breezy for me at the moment.
[07:24] <sn9> one thing i noticed about the dapper kernel is that genrtc is now a module and needs to be added to /etc/modules
[07:25] <sn9> dunno what effetc that might have on v4l
[07:26] <HiddenWolf> I'm not kernel-savy, do I need either of those modules?
[07:27] <sn9> i was assuming you're using v4l to test the video capture
[07:27] <sn9> random things break without genrtc
[07:28] <HiddenWolf> the video capture is ok, it's the audio that goes with it that's bust.
[07:29] <sn9> oh, alsa broke for me too
[07:29] <sn9> i2c bug
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[09:37] <BenC> mxpxpod: ping
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[10:08] <BenC> mxpxpod: My bluetooth mouse is working perfectly, scroll wheel and third button (wheel click)
[10:08] <BenC> it's a Kensington PilotMouse
[10:09] <BenC> need to reboot
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[10:23] <mxpxpod> BenC: hmm
[10:23] <mxpxpod> BenC: I'll try my microsoft mouse with the newest kernel
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