Bug #29412 in firefox (Ubuntu): Firefox don't look for plugins in $MOZ_PLUGIN

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[10:17] Kinnison: Yes [10:18] Kinnison: It has been dying with a Librarian upload failure though, so may not have completed for a while [10:20] ARGH === Kinnison is sure he asked for asuka to be left alone === Kinnison was running publisher tests === Kinnison cries [10:21] I remember you asking about the database synchronization, but not Gina :-( [10:21] Urgh [10:21] Not the end of the world [10:21] but not ideal [10:21] Can you make sure it's definitely not trying now? [10:21] Yup. [10:21] Done [10:21] ''cos it keeps killing the publisher [10:21] Deadlock? [10:23] bizarre deadlock or else librarian errors === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-137-168.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [10:41] morning [10:41] hi steve === thisfred [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === mdz [n=mdz@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === lbm [n=lbm@cpe.atm4-0-1301006.0x50a0824e.vgnxx6.customer.tele.dk] has joined #launchpad === kiko [n=kiko@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [10:57] good morning [10:57] hello SteveA [10:57] how are you? === mdz_ [n=mdz@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad [10:58] stub, is staging.ubuntu.com working? [10:58] hmm, just slow === Kinnison imagines it would be slow [10:58] We are doing a full publish [10:58] Poor thing only has one CPU - be nice! [10:58] on staging? [11:00] indeed. This is uberslow === thisfred_ [n=thisfred@a80-127-80-154.adsl.xs4all.nl] has joined #launchpad === cprov [n=cprov@217.205.109.249] has joined #launchpad === mpt [n=mpt@219-89-130-58.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad === fabbione [n=fabbione@retribution.clearairturbulence.org] has joined #launchpad [11:29] stub: I just killed gina on drescher in order to have more ram for the publishing runs [11:29] Yup === Kinnison thought he should tell you [11:29] Feel free to disable it in lp_import's crontab [11:30] since it will kick off again in a few hours otherwise [11:31] okay [11:32] stub, I was talking to SteveA about all the queries for teamparticipation [11:32] and he was telling me about CrowdControl [11:32] what do you think of that angle? [11:34] kiko, hi, is CrowdControl already implemented? [11:34] nope. [11:34] ok [11:34] we're considering it now, but I am unsure of how this will affect caching of participation [11:35] kiko: Depends on when crowd control lands [11:35] We will still need caching - just need to implement it in crowds or in teamparticipation [11:35] ah. [11:35] that makes more sense. [11:35] so I was thinking that we could have inTeam() be caching [11:36] using a similar strategy as we used for launchpad celebs [11:37] Sounds good. Might be some edge cases when removing yourself from a team, but the foaf tests should point them out (?) [11:37] I spoke to salgado about that [11:37] and he and I agree that it's silly [11:38] Would this shave hundreds of queries off some pages, or just a few? [11:38] that you can definitely cache inTeam for a request [11:38] about 20 for a few pages, ten for most [11:38] it's not a massive win like celebs were [11:38] There are more urgent areas then [11:38] well [11:38] eg. the bug report I filed earlier today :-( [11:39] it can probably be done cheaply, but tell me about your bug? [11:39] also, did you see my oopses email? [11:39] Bug 29725 [11:40] Ubugtu, wake up [11:40] Ubugtu, bug 29725 [11:40] (bug ) -- Look up bug in the bugtracker associated with . [11:40] Malone bug 29725: "Timeout trying to register a Launchpad branch" Fix req. for: launchpad (upstream), Severity: Major, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Confirmed http://launchpad.net/bugs/29725 [11:40] kiko: Nope - not that I recall [11:40] stub, can you check it out? [11:41] there's a query in there i'd like you to look at [11:41] Where is the email? [11:41] launchpad list? [11:41] stub: what i want to do is this: [11:41] aren't you reading that any more? :) [11:41] - land crowdcontrol, so there's just one query per security lookup [11:41] - make security queries cached on GETs [11:42] - see whether security queries still need cacheing on POSTs [11:42] What was the title of the email 'oopses email' is a bit vague. [11:42] it as "A set of oopses" [11:43] and it was the latest email to the list [11:43] hasn't arrived yet. Last I have is one from Bjorn [11:43] something's wrong with your mail [11:44] I sent it last night, about 12h ago [11:44] To: The Soyuz Team at Launchpad , [11:44] Stuart Bishop [11:45] SteveA, can you make sure the __len__ patch progresses (and lands?) today? [11:45] I fear it is stuck [11:46] where is jamesh? ah, I know [11:47] kiko: Last thing from you on the launchpad mailing list was Launchpad Report for 2006-01-25 [11:47] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/private/launchpad/2006-January/author.html [11:47] kiko: Check your mail queue [11:47] stub, uhm, no, you're mistaken [11:48] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/private/launchpad/2006-January/007401.html [11:48] however [11:48] I did send it with a different From: header than usual [11:48] kiko: jamesh is at the linux conf. i have the __len__ patch on my list for this week. [11:48] great. [11:49] kiko: so, maybe not today [11:49] you should aim to get it in early so we can check it on staging before rollout.. [11:49] hat's up with asuka being so slow all of a sudden? [11:49] SteveA, what else is on your plate this week? [11:49] s/^/w/ [11:52] carlos: can you not run your hideous selects on asuka? [11:53] carlos: It's killing my stuff and I'm already 36 hours behind on a deadline === stub goes to dinner === niemeyer [n=niemeyer@200.138.34.5] has joined #launchpad === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [12:07] carlos: It would be really nice if asuka wasn't almost constantly io-blocked because of whatever query you're running. [12:07] hey sabdfl [12:07] sab d f l, take a bow [12:08] Kinnison, my scripts are executed at 4:00AM we should not have anything running now... [12:08] let me check [12:09] kiko: ? [12:09] oh, I see, it's still running. But should be finish soon, anyway, I can kill it. I forgot to chante it to run once per week [12:09] how are you, sabdfl? === matsubara [n=matsubar@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:09] good morning! [12:10] carlos: if it could be knocked dead I'd really appreciate it [12:10] Kinnison, it's already killed [12:10] hello matsubara [12:10] kiko: https://launchpad.net/malone/bugs/5952 <--- I don't quite understand what you ask in your comment [12:10] Malone bug 5952: "Group "owners" should be able to add translators" Fix req. for: rosetta (upstream), Severity: Major, Assigned to: Nobody, Status: Confirmed [12:10] jordi, I have a request for you today [12:10] Sr. Kiko, qu tal? [12:10] muy bien [12:10] kiko: hi kiko [12:11] carlos: hopefully the postgresql child will notice soon and die too [12:12] jordi, you know translation teams? [12:12] Kinnison, I just updated the crontab to be executed on Sundays [12:12] jordi, well, they can be shared between multiple products and projects and distros [12:12] Also, anyone know what the debbugs mirror is all about? [12:12] that's chewwing CPU/disk [12:12] kiko: yes [12:12] kiko, I don't think it's a big issue [12:13] carlos? [12:13] if you trust the list of translators... you should trust the 'owner' of that list... [12:13] carlos, that's not the point [12:13] stub: ping? [12:13] who is the owner of the list, carlos? [12:13] kiko, atm, the Rosetta experts [12:14] carlos, the bug calls for context owners being able to appoint new translators [12:14] oh, context owners? [12:14] no, that's broken [12:14] read the bug, carlos. === WaterSevenUb [n=WaterSev@azevedo.astro.up.pt] has joined #launchpad [12:14] kiko, I read it some days ago and forgot the 'context' word [12:14] sorry [12:14] sure. [12:15] kiko, the title is broken then [12:15] kiko: well, it may only apply to the very specific groups like KDE or Plone. [12:15] jordi? [12:15] "Group owners" are not context owners [12:15] jordi, even so, any product owner can go and assign a pre-existing translation team to themselves, right? [12:15] so let's say I create a product === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:15] say "make the plone translation team my translation team" [12:15] woohoo, pgsql noticed and now my publishing is going way faster [12:16] carlos: thanks dude === gneuman [n=gneuman@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad === salgado [n=salgado@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:16] then I would be able to add people at will [12:16] and potentially displease the plone people [12:16] salgado! [12:16] kiko: aha. We somehow shouldn't assume this random dude creating the "plone-fake-project-to-take-over-real-plone-muhaha" can do it. [12:17] jordi, can you say that again? [12:17] "muhaha", I know you'd like that part. [12:17] I mean: [12:17] jordi, that has an easy fix, just add an owner to the translation group instead of using the product's owner [12:18] If Plone translators has an "owner", then nobody else can be the owner unless it's changed by Launchpad management [12:18] carlos: correct [12:18] so Only the maintainers of the translation group can change it, for Plone, only people that the plone project tell us, will be able to appoint new translators [12:18] yes [12:18] carlos, what about shared teams? but okay.. [12:18] carlos, jordi: can you update the bug with the suggested plan? [12:18] I can [12:19] kiko, it's not a big problem [12:19] translators will be appointed only by the ones that created that team [12:19] sounds okay. [12:19] so if the project Foo uses the Plone team [12:19] kiko: well thanks. sick today but enjoying LCA nonetheless, timezones a bit bollocksed but hey this is the asia tour :-) [12:19] will get any translator that the Plone admins want [12:20] sabdfl, how sick is "sick"? mdz and I unscrewed the showerhead at the hotel today, for improved personal hygiene [12:20] carlos, somehow, I think we should have used groups for TTs but.. [12:20] I mean, groups have admins, owners, etc -- everything we would have needed :) === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:21] TT, expand? [12:21] translation teams? [12:21] err :P [12:21] doh [12:21] thanks [12:21] jordi, so, I have a special request for you [12:21] can you come up with the top 10 FAQs for launchpad? [12:21] yes? [12:21] just questions [12:21] for Launchpad? [12:22] I can produce answers [12:22] yes [12:22] see staging.ubuntu.com/faq ? [12:22] i get timeouts on https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/da/+translate [12:22] that's daf's 15-minute fix [12:22] kiko, the problem is that they lack the language information [12:22] OOPS-26D138 [12:22] carlos, we could have annotated them [12:22] Not sure. I have little input for some parts of launchpad [12:22] kiko, for the language teams we are using groups [12:22] so it's only to associate a language with a team [12:22] I mostly do rosetta and do some malone and doap at user level [12:23] kiko, that what's the initial plan, but it was decided to go this way.... [12:23] jordi, that's okay [12:24] kiko, btw, current FAQ page points to the legal page as a Rosetta specific page, but we have information there for Malone too [12:24] kiko: I'll think about it. [12:24] and soyuz [12:24] carlos, I'll fix that faq as soon as I have more inputs, friday the latest [12:24] ok [12:25] kiko: is there ongoing navigation improvement work for launchpad? [12:25] I still get many people saying they get lost [12:26] jordi, well, ongoing is a difficult word. we definitely know it needs to be improved [12:26] BjornT_, around? === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:27] ok, the log of this conversation is in malone now. [12:28] carlos: I submitted some import queue bugs [12:28] jordi, cool, thanks [12:28] I will try to handle them as soon as possible [12:28] jordi, did you set priorities on them? [12:29] about which ones are the "must have fixed" and which ones are the wishes? [12:30] hi salgado [12:31] hi BjornT_, any news on that review I replied to you yesterday? [12:34] salgado: yes, i'll reply to your mail after the meeting, i have to get something to eat now [12:34] BjornT, great. thanks. :) === raptoid [n=raptoid@unaffiliated/raptoid] has joined #launchpad [12:35] argh, i need a complete export of gnomebaker (main) translations [12:35] i get timeouts [12:36] lbm, oops id? please don't stop giving them to me, I am collecting evidence :) [12:36] kiko: OOPS-26D138, OOPS-26A181 === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:37] kiko: i get timeout when i try accessing https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/XX/+translate [12:37] which is the only place i can export afair [12:38] carlos, is lbm right? [12:39] lbm, https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/XX should allow you to export too === AlinuxOS [n=Ubuntu@d83-176-117-30.cust.tele2.it] has joined #launchpad [12:40] carlos: of all languages? [12:40] lbm, a full export? [12:40] lbm, https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/ [12:40] there you have a link for a full export [12:40] carlos: yes, where can i find the link in the future? [12:41] lbm, selecting that template from gnomebaker [12:41] you get that url [12:41] your right :) [12:41] how could i not see that? [12:41] SteveA, seems like the suggestions are not fast enough, the problem lbm has is related with the suggestions :-( [12:41] well, thanks :) [12:41] lbm, you are welcome [12:42] lbm, I'll look into that timeout today, hopefully something we can improve. [12:42] carlos: no I didn't [12:42] kiko: great [12:42] btw... how is that we are showing back traces with the timeouts? [12:42] suggestions don't need to be right up to date. maybe some kind of cacheing will help [12:42] carlos? [12:42] carlos: well, both ar high for me, as they will improve my performance [12:42] kiko, we did an optimization already [12:42] and it is still timing out [12:42] another thing, gnomebaker is coded in en_GB, so such translation shouldn't be possible [12:42] kiko, I got a back trace with the timeout of https://launchpad.net/products/gnomebaker/+series/main/+pots/gnomebaker/es/+translate [12:43] another option would be... ajax [12:43] we need a place to specify upstream language [12:43] have the suggestions come in with separate queries after the page has loaded [12:43] kiko, right, and I think we need to implement what SteveA said, caching [12:43] hmmm [12:43] carlos, you get backtraes always [12:43] SteveA, I like that more than caching [12:43] kiko, because I'm an admin? === SteveA puts down the crack pipe [12:43] carlos, yes, a launchpad devel === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:44] oh, it's not the first time I see it but I was not sure if it was on production or staging... [12:44] kiko, nice feature ;-) === carlos workraves before the meeting [12:45] did you guys understand my feature request? [12:46] carlos, have you seen the oops reports? [12:46] it has EVERY SINGLE QUERY issued [12:47] that is rock and roll suicide [12:47] lbm, that's an interesting topic. can you make sure that carlos understands it and we have a bug report filed? [12:48] carlos: did you understand my request? === ddaa [n=ddaa@nor75-18-82-241-238-155.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #launchpad === ..[topic/#launchpad:ddaa] : launchpad.net | developer meeting: Thur 26 Jan, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs are here: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 === beyond [n=beyond@200-171-140-32.dsl.telesp.net.br] has joined #launchpad [12:50] kiko, ? [12:51] lbm, not really, could you explain it a bit more? [12:51] it is almost time [12:51] kiko, what do you mean by 'Every single query'? from gnomebaker? [12:52] carlos, have you seen the oops reports? [12:52] kiko, I planned to do it this afternoon so no, I didn't see them yet [12:53] carlos: atm it's possible to translate en_GB in gnomebaker (main), which is the language used in the upstream code [12:53] carlos, I mean, the format of them [12:53] carlos: it shouldn't be possible [12:55] kiko, dude, sorry but I don't understand you. I can only think on the big query that raises the timeout.... [12:56] lbm, Why not? it's a good way to fix typos ... [12:56] carlos, if you look at an oops report, you will see at the end of it a log of all queries issued during that request. [12:56] oh [12:56] Is there something like a meeting in 5 mins? [12:56] kiko, I'm looking at the website bt [12:56] let me look at the OPPS directly... [12:56] right === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #launchpad [12:56] there is, ddaa === bradb [n=bradb@modemcable033.209-70-69.mc.videotron.ca] has joined #launchpad [12:57] meeting in 2 mins [12:57] kiko, that's normal [12:58] kiko, not the time it takes, we should improve it, but the amount of queries... [12:58] kiko, We have 3 kinds of suggestions and 10 entries per page... [12:58] coff and some chokolade in meating room [12:58] carlos: you have a point, but i think these should go in upstream code instead [12:58] thank you. [12:58] kiko, at least 30 queries for suggestions [12:58] yeah [12:59] lbm, right, but in the mean time... and also, the source code is not updated after an Ubuntu release [12:59] we should do 3 queries, carlos, I think [12:59] kiko, 3 queries? [12:59] MEETING TIME [01:00] who is here today for the launchpad development meeting? === mpt_ [n=mpt@219-89-132-96.jetstart.xtra.co.nz] has joined #launchpad [01:00] Here [01:00] me [01:00] here === Kinnison is here [01:00] here [01:00] me [01:00] here [01:00] me [01:00] here [01:00] here [01:00] here [01:00] here [01:01] apologies from australian residents (public holiday) [01:01] here [01:01] carlos, yes, fewer queries, not more [01:01] carlos: i think about main translation, not ubuntu package translations [01:01] mpt_: you are on vacation, no? [01:01] lbm, let's talk about it after the meeting, ok? [01:02] carlos: okay, good meeting [01:02] SteveA, yes, but I said I'd be at the meeting anyway [01:02] ok [01:02] == Agenda == [01:02] * Roll call [01:02] * Agenda [01:02] * Next meeting [01:02] * Activity reports [01:02] * Items from last meeting [01:02] * Production / staging (stub) [01:02] * General policy about how should we deal with broken user input: Raise an exception, ignore it? (CarlosPerelloMarin) [01:02] kiko, I will appreciate any comment about how to reduce it to 3 single queries... (after the meeting) [01:02] * Keep, Bag, Change [01:02] * Three sentences [01:02] [01:02] any further agenda items [01:02] ? === sabdfl [n=mark@ubuntu/member/pdpc.silver.sabdfl] has joined #launchpad [01:02] not from me. [01:02] ok. next meeting, same time next week? === ..[topic/#launchpad:SteveA] : launchpad.net | developer meeting: Thur 2 Feb, 1200UTC (wiki:MeetingAgenda) | launchpad-users@lists.canonical.com (wiki:MailingLists) | Channel logs are here: http://tinyurl.com/72w39 [01:03] it is done [01:03] * Activity reports [01:03] up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] not up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] i'm up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] somewhat up to date, unfortunately accumulated and flaky during sprint. [01:03] not up to date [01:03] up to date [01:03] last week was perfect [01:03] not up to date due to sprint [01:04] up to date [01:04] n/a === daf quickly catches up [01:04] I'm here [01:04] sorry === niemeyer is here [01:04] And is almost up to date.. [01:04] niemeyer, don't use /me :-P === jordi is not up to date on activity reports [01:04] oops [01:05] I'm not up to date on activity reports [01:05] :P === niemeyer promise not to use /me [01:05] promises even [01:05] up to date [01:05] * Items from last meeting [01:05] * [01:05] MeetingAction: Andrew and James to try Kiko's suggested time logging workflow. [01:05] they're not here, so for next week's meeting [01:05] MeetingAction: Kiko to check reliability of OOPS syncs. [01:05] kiko: ? [01:06] it's working reliably. [01:06] every 10 minutes. [01:06] MeetingAction: Kiko and James to discuss implementing a validator. [01:06] (for page templates / pages) [01:06] did not happen. [01:06] kiko: is 10 minutes okay? [01:06] it's okay. 5 would be better. [01:06] Znarl can be asked to make it 5. i don't think it would be a problem. [01:06] I load the page, get a not found, wait for the :X0 minute and reload. [01:07] i'll submit an RT request for it to be 5 [01:07] MeetingAction: James B to review DatabaseSetup. [01:07] jblack: ? [01:07] MeetingAction: Matthew to document the decision in the FixingProjects spec. [01:07] mpt: ? [01:07] jblack, SteveA: perhaps of note is that we fixed launchpad-database-setup to work in dapper too. [01:08] that's cool [01:08] do we now have two launchpad dependencies packages? [01:08] Yes, I need to do that [01:08] SteveA, I recorded it briefly, and need to finish writing it up [01:08] I forgot. [01:08] one in breezy-updates, one in dapper-updates? [01:08] MeetingAction: Kiko to delegate optional-branch-title. [01:08] kiko: to whom was it delegated? [01:08] daf [01:08] daf [01:08] it was done. [01:09] cool [01:09] MeetingAction: David to isolate the bzr problem he encountered and file a bug report. [01:09] ddaa: ? [01:09] I'll do it immediately after the meeting. [01:09] thanks jblack [01:09]