[11:03] <chmj> BenC: ping 
[11:25] <chmj> hello  fabbione
[11:25] <fabbione> hey chmj 
[11:28] <chmj> any know b0rkages with dist-upgrade to dapper and ide-* modules? 
[11:28] <fabbione> no idea
[11:29] <chmj> new kernel and initramfs can't mount my root fs :-/ 
[11:29] <chmj> regenerated image with ide-* modprobed still wont do it 
[02:42] <BenC> chmj: pong
[02:43] <BenC> chmj: when initramfs drops shell, check lsmod and dmesg
[04:05] <chmj> BenC, still around ?
[04:05] <BenC> yeah
[04:05] <chmj> cool 
[04:06] <chmj> lsmod is not in busybox 
[04:06] <chmj> so I $> cat  /proc/modules 
[04:07] <chmj> the image I generated has ide-disk,ide-core and ide-generic 
[04:10] <BenC> that's odd
[04:10] <BenC> ide-core should be in the kernel
[04:10] <BenC> so this is a self compiled image?
[04:11] <chmj> but its nope
[04:12] <chmj> dist-upgrade 
[04:13] <chmj> the breezy kernel boots but all the devices don't work 
[04:15] <chmj> funny thing, whn I reload the modules, they create the neccessoty file and I can mount the drive from busybox 
[04:21] <BenC> so ide-core exists in dapper kernel?
[04:21] <BenC> something's wrong there, because it should not
[04:22] <BenC> I just checked, all arch's have CONFIG_IDE=y
[04:23] <BenC> chmj: does dmesg show that the drives were detected, and it's just that the device file isn't created?
[04:23] <BenC> if so, that's a udev bug
[04:37] <chmj> hmm 
[04:37] <chmj> busybox doesn't seem to have dmesg 
[04:39] <chmj> ahhh 
[04:39] <chmj> the drivers are detected just before it drops the shell
[04:39] <BenC> are you sure you have the latest udev?
[04:40] <BenC> try upgrading, and rerun "sudo update-initramfs -u"
[04:41] <chmj> hmmm 
[04:42] <chmj> dist-upgrage surely should have installed that 
[04:42] <chmj> :-/
[04:42] <chmj> gtg, laterz
[05:30] <zul> heylo
[05:37] <bubbalwz> BenC: wake up
[05:38] <dilinger> demanding, aren't we? :p
[05:38] <bubbalwz> yes
[05:39] <bubbalwz> i'll hold his wife hostage if he ignores me
[05:39] <bubbalwz> and fabbione's wife too
[05:49] <BenC> bubbalwz: yo
[05:50] <BenC> good luck holding my wife down, I've tried
[05:50] <fabbione> bubbalwz: you know your kid is not really your.. don't you?
[05:50] <BenC> lol
[05:50] <fabbione> also.. if you hold my wife.. good luck.. you can keep her :P
[05:52] <zul> ah thats not nice..
[05:52] <fabbione> zul: nah.. we know bubba :)
[05:53] <BenC> bubbalwz: btw, my wife says hi :)
[05:53] <zul> fabbione: ah ok..
[05:54] <BenC> bubbalwz: btw, make sure megaraid_mbox is loaded
[05:54] <bubbalwz> heh
[05:54] <bubbalwz> it is
[05:54] <bubbalwz> well, it's in my /etc/mkinitramfs/modules file
[05:54] <fabbione> zul: i mean.. we know him bibblicaly :)
[05:55] <BenC> bubbalwz: cat /proc/modules make sure it is loaded
[05:55] <zul> fabbione: great...thanks for the imagery in my head now
[05:55] <BenC> or modprobe megaraid_mbox
[05:55] <bubbalwz> well, it's not in 2.6.10
[05:55] <BenC> what about just megaraid?
[05:55] <bubbalwz> just megaraid is in 2.6.10
[05:56] <bubbalwz> and it's loaded, as i'm on the box 
[05:56] <BenC> is it loaded?
[05:56] <BenC> ok
[05:56] <bubbalwz> megaraid 41704 6 - Live 0xf881a000
[05:56] <bubbalwz> scsi_mod 127552 3 sg,sd_mod,megaraid, Live 0xf8835000
[05:56] <BenC> so it's breezy where it breaks?
[05:56] <bubbalwz> yep
[05:56] <bubbalwz> 2.6.12 is a nogo
[05:56] <BenC> is megaraid in breezy?
[05:56] <bubbalwz> yep, megaraid, megaraid_mbox and megaraid_mm
[05:57] <BenC> ok, did you load megaraid_mbox in breezy (after you get to the busybox shell)?
[05:57] <fabbione> BenC: i think the megaraid /megaraid_mm split up might miss a PCI ID
[05:57] <BenC> yeah, there's a way to force it though
[05:57] <bubbalwz> nope, but I can try (not on the console of the box now, but can try later)
[05:57] <bubbalwz> just tell me what to do
[05:58] <BenC> modprobe megaraid_mbox
[05:59] <bubbalwz> k, i'll try that
[05:59] <bubbalwz> i did verify that megaraid_mbox was in the initrd image
[05:59] <BenC> echo "101e:1960" > /sys/bus/pci/megaraid_mbox/new_id
[05:59] <BenC> echo "101e:1960" > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/megaraid_mbox/new_id
[05:59] <BenC> that one
[06:00] <bubbalwz> ok
[06:01] <bubbalwz> wish I could try it now, but i cant
[06:01] <bubbalwz> if that works, then what?
[06:01] <bubbalwz> and, would it be possible to install a clean version of breezy off cd ?
[06:03] <BenC> if that works, then you just need to add a custom script to initramfs stuff to do it for you
[06:04] <BenC> to do a breezy install, you'd need to drop to shell and do the same thing
[06:04] <bubbalwz> so is this fixable?
[06:04] <BenC> yeah, if it works, we can do a fix in the  next kernel for breezy
[06:04] <BenC> just a one-liner
[06:04] <bubbalwz> ok, cool
[06:05] <bubbalwz> i'll try that when i get home and get back w/ you
[06:05] <BenC> ok
[06:05] <bubbalwz> gracias
[06:05] <bubbalwz> tell britey i said hi
[06:05] <BenC> ok, later dude
[06:05] <bubbalwz> later on
[06:05] <BenC> fabbione: did I tell you I have a bluetooth mouse on my pb now?
[06:06] <BenC> so sweet to be able to move my mouse from across the room :)
[06:06] <fabbione> BenC: no
[06:06] <fabbione> and i nees still to get my touchpad configured properly
[06:06] <BenC> I was going to get the apple bt mouse, it it was single button
[06:06] <bubbalwz> omg what to do w/ just 1 button :)
[06:06] <fabbione> yeah, i don't really mind the single button
[06:06] <BenC> got a kensington instead
[06:07] <fabbione> BenC: i took the webcam with me
[06:07] <BenC> blah, I need scroll wheel :P
[06:07] <fabbione> and cloned the trees on my lappy
[06:07] <fabbione> BenC: there is a scroll wheel on the apple
[06:07] <fabbione> i will show it to you sunday
[06:07] <fabbione> it's a little tiny ball on top 
[06:08] <sn9> only the mighty mouse has that. the others are one-button
[06:09] <BenC> the guy in the store told me it only had the one button
[06:09] <sn9> the mighty mouse is also the only apple mouse that can right-click
[06:09] <BenC> yeah, the bt apple mouse doesn't have scroll or second button
[06:10] <BenC> fabbione: I paid a hefty chunk for the 17" case for my pb too...that sucker was expensive
[06:10] <sn9> are you running 2.6.15-14 on your pb?
[06:11] <BenC> of course :)
[06:12] <sn9> because i have 2.6.15-13 on the iBook and keywest i2c segfaults on load
[06:12] <BenC> that's a snd-powermac issue, which should be fixed in -14
[06:14] <sn9> thanx
[06:15] <BenC> well, it shouldn't oops anymore, but I can't guarantee that sound is working :)
[06:15] <sn9> works perfectly in -9, so what broke it in -13?
[06:21] <fabbione> BenC: sound seems to work here on 14
[06:21] <BenC> sn9: I reworked snd-powermac so that it would work on more systems (and work reliably on systems where it was a little quirky)
[06:22] <BenC> fabbione: it should, you have the same pb I do :)
[06:22] <BenC> sn9: I just can't test them all, so it's a little hit or miss
[06:22] <BenC> easy to fix though
[06:23] <BenC> toonie should be working great, but tumbler and snapper may need a little extra tweaking
[06:24] <sn9> with the breezy kernel, snd-powermac would refuse to work unless dmasound-pmac was loaded and unloaded prior to loading snd-powermac
[06:30] <BenC> yeah, that should be fixed with the new driver
[06:30] <BenC> the main thing that was reworked was the gpio access
[06:31] <BenC> snd-powermac will get a lot more robust in 2.6.16/17
[06:31] <BenC> hopefully support digitial in/out and everything
[06:31] <sn9> but that was only true on iBooks. on TiBooks, it had no problems
[06:31] <sn9> really? i would love to have the mic working
[06:31] <BenC> sn9: right, that's because the gpio mechanism was guessing
[06:32] <BenC> now the gpio (on recent systems, atleast within the past 3 years) will be done correctly
[07:46] <mxpxpod> BenC: so, I just downloaded the new kernel and alsa still doesn't work :(
[07:47] <BenC> ls -l /proc/asound
[07:48] <mxpxpod> BenC: let me log into irc from my ibook
[07:51] <bryanf> BenC: this is mxpxpod
[07:51] <BenC> ok
[07:51] <bryanf> here's ls -l /proc/asound/
[07:51] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 cards
[07:51] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 devices
[07:52] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 modules
[07:52] <bryanf> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 oss
[07:52] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 pcm
[07:52] <bryanf> dr-xr-xr-x 2 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 seq
[07:52] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 timers
[07:52] <bryanf> -r--r--r-- 1 root root 0 2006-01-26 12:51 version
[08:01] <BenC> ok, it's not detecting the card
[08:01] <BenC> hmm
[08:01] <sn9> check dmesg
[08:01] <BenC> dmesg it probably empty
[08:02] <BenC> but if there is anything it will be near the i2c uni-n messages
[08:03] <sn9> my /proc/asound looked just like that under 2.6.15-13, but dmesg revealed the segfault
[08:03] <BenC> segfault should be gone with 014
[08:03] <BenC> -14
[08:05] <bryanf> BenC: there's no segfault in my dmesg
[08:05] <bryanf> BenC: just so you konw
[08:05] <bryanf> s/konw/know/
[08:06] <BenC> it's just not detecting it properly
[08:06] <bryanf> strange
[08:06] <BenC> I'll get a test snd-powermac.ko module for you with some debug output
[08:06] <bryanf> cool
[08:08] <bryanf> BenC: also, lsmod shows that nothing is using snd-powermac
[08:08] <BenC> right, it wouldn't
[08:08] <bryanf> ok
[08:26] <zul> ps axuw
[08:26] <zul> doh..
[08:34] <BenC> 1 init <zombie>
[08:37] <sn9> lol
[08:40] <cjb`> Wah.  Our kitten is unlucky.
[08:40] <cjb`> He picked up a {rare,fatal,incurable} reaction to a common virus.  :(
[08:41] <cjb`> Gonna have to put him to sleep in the next few days.
[08:41] <BenC> that sucks, sorry to hear that
[11:37] <mxpxpod> BenC: ping
[11:39] <BenC> yo
[11:39] <mxpxpod> got that module for me?
[11:40] <mjg59> BenC: Can we pull ACPI head?
[11:41] <mjg59> Contains a workaround for stuff that breaks battery reading on a pile of Acers
[11:48] <BenC> I can cherry, but I'd rather not pull from heads that might be syncing aganst 2.6.16-git
[11:49] <BenC> mjg59: is that the smart battery thing?
[11:49] <BenC> if you can get me a commit id I can cherry pick it
[11:54] <bubbalwz> BenC: ok, i'm at the console now
[11:54] <bubbalwz> only have megaraid and megaraidlegacy under drivers
[11:54] <bubbalwz> no megaraid_mbox, even after i modprobed it
[11:55] <bubbalwz> if i do echo "101e:1960" > /sys/bus/pci/drivers/megaraidlegacy/new_id
[11:55] <bubbalwz> i get shit like sda: asking for cache data failed
[11:55] <mxpxpod> BenC: I take it you haven't worked up the debug module
[11:58] <mjg59> BenC: Nope
[12:00] <bubbalwz> fabbione: http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache:MaSOb-BO-BsJ:people.ubuntu.com/~fabbione/irclogs/ubuntu-kernel-2005-04-19.html+megaraidlegacy&hl=en&gl=us&ct=clnk&cd=3
[12:01] <mjg59> BenC: It's due to placeholder values in the battery object
[12:01] <mjg59> They never actually get used, but the interpreter bitches
[12:02] <BenC> bubba: atleast it is seeing the drives
[12:02] <BenC> unload megraidlegacy, and try just megaraid
[12:02] <BenC> look under /lib/modules/2.6.1*/kernel/drivers/scsi/megaraid/
[12:02] <bubbalwz> how do i continue
[12:02] <BenC> load some of those modules up
[12:02] <bubbalwz> to try and boot
[12:02] <bubbalwz> after i load a module
[12:02] <BenC> find the right module and do the new_id thing on it
[12:02] <bubbalwz> megaraid failed 
[12:03] <bubbalwz> megaraidlegacy is the right one