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Lord_Athurhi all02:05
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paolobHi guys!03:08
paolobAnyone could tell me what config file should I modify in order not to have the "no free leases" error? thank you!03:09
paolobmhz, do you remember it?03:10
mhzpaolob: hi03:10
paolobhola mhz 03:10
mhzhola03:10
mhzI have never had such error, sorry :)03:10
paolobHow many clients do you work with?03:11
mhzpaolob: I wish I had 'clients' to work with and test. So far, a small 1GHz Celeron and 2 thin laptops03:11
paolobmhz, it's an error due to exhausting the IP range permitted by dhcp03:12
mhzohhh03:13
mhzhow many clients?03:13
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paolobmhz, what do you think of the delay the clients have when performing the nfs mount before running the services? did you see it?03:13
paolobmhz, I have 40 clients (don't you remember?)03:13
mhzoh, tes!03:14
mhzt =y03:14
mhzpaolob: breezy or dapper?03:14
paolobbreezy03:14
paolobmhz, do you have that delay with your laptops?03:15
mhzI know breezy take loooong to load 03:15
mhzyup03:15
mhzDapper loads clients lot faster03:16
mhzafaik03:16
mhzbut haven't had the chance to test it yet03:16
paolob:-)03:16
mhzpaolob: does your /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf mention anything about leases?03:16
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paolobmhz, no. ogra had told me I have to change a parameter that governs a lease's life03:19
mhzohh03:19
mhzwell, he's the Mr. Edubuntu03:20
paolobthe strange thing is he told me to change a parameter in /etc/dhcp3/dhcpd.conf, but apparently that config file is superseded by /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf in /etc/init.d/dhcp303:21
mhzoh, that makes sense03:22
mhzpaolob: what IRC client do you use?03:22
paolobxchat03:23
mhzdo you have logs 'enabled'?03:23
paolobI enable it right now03:24
mhz$ grep -B 7 -A 3 -i leases ~/.xchat/xchatlogs/.....03:25
mhzoh03:25
mhzyou hadn't ??03:25
mhzthen I have no clue how to help you unless I tell you google for 'dhcp leases' :D03:25
paolobI enabled it right now03:26
paolobwhat did you want me to see?03:26
mhzor 'comment out' (#) the lines about 'leases' in the file ogra mentioned03:26
mhzpaolob: I thought you could have check the logs of that chat ;)03:26
paolobbut the fact is that that config file isn't used by dhcp3!03:27
mhz?03:27
mhzwell, I am pretty sure /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf is the file we use03:28
paolobok03:28
paolobbut than, what do I put there?03:28
mhzbut I see no 'lease' lines in my dhcpd.conf03:28
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paolobthat's the fact!03:30
paolobshould I add it?03:30
paolobdefault-lease-time 600;03:30
paolobmax-lease-time 7200;03:30
paolobthese should be the lines, ogra told me to put 200 instead of 60003:31
paolobmhz, do I think I can add it to /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf ?03:33
paolobs/I/you/03:34
mhzwhat's the worst thing that can happen if you do? :D03:34
paolobthat's true!03:37
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mhzogra__: i truly did not get a clue of what to add to the minute regarding your stuff :( https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EdubuntuMeetingRecords05:17
mhzplease add it yourself or tell me what to add. Thx for your understanding.05:18
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Burgundaviahttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/BootGrub <-- is this total bollocks05:26
Burgundavia?05:26
Burgundavianever mind05:35
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edubuntuBack with my yesterday thin client booting problem. Errors begin when commandline: Begin: Running /scripts/nfs-premount...03:47
edubuntuDone. 03:47
edubuntunfsmount: need a path 03:47
edubuntuBegin: Running /scripts/nfs-bottom... 03:47
edubuntuDone.03:47
edubuntuDone. 03:47
edubuntuBegin: Running /scripts/init-bottom... 03:47
edubuntuDone. 03:47
edubuntumount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed:  No such file or directory. 03:47
edubuntumount: Mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: No such file or directory. 03:47
edubuntuTarget filesystem doesn't have /sbin/init.    03:47
edubuntuThen: BusyBox v1.00 bla-bla-bla. 03:47
edubuntu/bin/sh: can't access tty; job control turned off03:47
edubuntuWhere is the solution?03:47
edubuntuWhat could be wrong with my nfs?03:48
ogradid you rebuild the client chroot as i told you ? 03:51
edubuntuI did simply ltsp-build-client, but you advised to delete a directory...which one? 03:52
ograthe one where the client chroot rersides 03:52
ogra/opt/ltsp/i386 (the one ltsp-build-client told you when you reran it that this will likely cause problems)03:53
edubuntuNo it didnt say nothing03:53
ograif you already have that dir there is a big warning 03:54
edubuntuDoes these operations affect my running VXL terminals?03:54
ograno idea03:54
ograi dont know VXL terminals apart from the stuff you told me03:54
ogralikely it wont03:55
ograsince they seem to have a local OS03:55
edubuntuThese have built-in opsys and start in kiosk mode and make then a connection to the server with XDMCP. There is no more choice for protocol. Only RDP and XDMCP. I assume these dont netboot but simply connect X-server.03:57
ograyup03:58
edubuntuSo it is harmless to delete /opt/ltsp/i386???? But really I didnt have any warning when rerunning ltsp-build-client...03:59
edubuntuWhat kind of login screen I should arrive. Like gdm or similar. Is it graphical login or commandline?04:00
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ograit will break your server install if it didnt finish propperly the last time  ...04:02
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edubuntuThe problem actually starts with the line: mount: Mounting /root/dev on /dev/.static/dev failed: no such file or directory     then      mount: Mounting /dev on /root/dev failed: no such file or directory  Target filesystem doesnt have /sbin/init. I just looked in the  /etc/mkinitramfs/scripts folder - all the scripts folder are empty. Is it a nfs problem? The problem was similar before I touched to ltspadmin.04:16
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ogradid you rebuild your client chroot ? 04:18
edubuntuWhich command it is?04:19
ograltsp-build-client after you cleaned up04:19
edubuntuOk i will try and 1st i backup actual /opt/ltsp/i386...04:20
ograno point in backing up a broken chroot... but as you like04:21
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edubuntuShould i remove only /i386 folder or /data and pkg_cache folders too?04:24
ograwhats that ? 04:25
ograi have no idea how you got these folders there, they are not from edubuntu ...04:25
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edubuntuthen i remove these04:25
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edubuntuIf all is done is it necessary to restart  service(s), daemons?04:35
ogranope04:35
ograif all is done you should be able to boot04:36
edubuntuok ...it is configuring now...04:37
edubuntuSo i made a thin client boot and got exactly the same result.04:45
edubuntuI have dhcp server in another PC. Maybe it is affecting the process. Missing a line in /etc/dhcpd.conf??04:47
ograerr04:48
ograyou did read the InstallNotes  ?04:48
ogradont edit /etc/dhcpd.conf04:48
ograits not used at all04:49
edubuntuYes I did it 100 times.04:49
ograand nope, you cant run two dhcp servers in one subnet04:49
edubuntuI printed out also ubuntu thinclient-howto04:49
ograthats useless for edubuntu04:49
ograall stuff described there is done during install04:50
edubuntuin edubuntu thinclient there is nothing to do- only configure PXE booting?04:50
ogranope, only edit the /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf file 04:50
ograto match the right subnet04:50
ograand restart dhcpd indeed04:51
ograthen it runs04:51
ograbut if you have a second dhcp server, either shut down the existing one, or dont use the one in edubuntu and configure the existing one for netbooting the thin clients04:51
ograyou cant use two dhcp servers04:52
edubuntuWe have usual address space 192.168.0.1 (firewall and DHCP) up to 255. Edubuntu server is 40. My thin client is 59. When booting it clearly shows that it will boot to 40. May be I transmet the dhcpd.conf file?04:53
ograis the exisating one a linux server ? 04:54
edubuntuyes04:54
ograthen you could try to transfer the data into the config, yes04:54
ograyou'll need the next-server directive to point to the nfs server though ... 04:55
ograthe easier way would be to shut down the existing one and just use the edubuntu dhcp with a range from 1-254 ...04:56
ograor what ever range you like04:56
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edubuntuYou were right, Ogra - when I stopped the existing DHCP server it booted up correctly. Superbe... Thousend thanks....05:21
ogra:)05:22
ograthere are workarounds on wiki.ltsp.org to run two dhcp servers on different ports in one network, but thats highly complicated to set up, i wouldnt suggest it if you can migrate to a single one05:22
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stevisPlease can somebody tell me where i can find cabextract on edubuntu?08:29
stevisor how i use it?08:29
stevisi have been instructed to do this.....08:29
stevisuse cabextract on the .exe, then unshield on the data1.cab08:29
Burgworkstevis, that might be a better question for #ubuntu as it is not edubuntu specific08:30
stevisi did ask but nobody answered me08:31
stevisi'm just trying to install netgear drivers for wifi card08:31
Burgworkis there a #ndiswrapper08:31
stevisguess i'll try again08:31
stevisi got that08:31
stevisdunno how to use that either08:31
Burgworkthey have experience with dealing with windows drivers, they might be able to help you08:31
stevisok thanks08:32
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