[03:57] <jsgotangco> Riddell, yay for 3.5.1 :)
[03:04] <murr> err.. i'm sorry if i'm not supposed to ask here, but are these packages ready for use already http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/ ? they seem to be for breezy(?)
[03:04] <Tm_T> murr: tietkseni ei ole viel "julkista"
[03:05] <Tm_T> murr: so prolly isn't yet for everyday-use
[03:05] <murr> Tm_T: joten paketointi viel jotenkin kesken tms.?
[03:05] <Tm_T> murr: wait Riddell, he'll tell if he need testers ;)
[03:06] <Tm_T> when they
[03:06] <murr> ok. i just did a clean breezy install and was wondering if i should install 3.5 or - as i noticed it's there - 3.51
[03:06] <Tm_T> re test installed, might be ready to publish
[03:06] <Tm_T> murr: aye, if you like to help, wait riddell
[03:07] <murr> hmm.. if it's possible that they are still somehow horribly broken, i think i'll install 3.5 then ;)
[03:07] <murr> i could test them myself, but this is not my machine
[03:07] <Tm_T> hehe
[03:07] <Tm_T> well, they might be ok, I have no idea
[03:08] <Tm_T> I'm using dapper and KDE 3.5.1
[03:08] <murr> hm
[03:09] <Riddell> murr: they're still in testing but there's been no problem reports so far
[03:09] <Tm_T> :)
[03:10] <Tm_T> hi sir
[03:10] <murr> Riddell: so the repository is not incomplete or anything like that?
[03:11] <murr> if that's the case, i think i'll install it then. i thank thee all very much
[03:12] <Tm_T> murr: you're welcome :)
[03:12] <Tm_T> murr: haven't seen you in finnish channels ;(
[03:13] <murr> Tm_T: hehe, that's because this is not my nick. at least not all of it ;)
[03:13] <Tm_T> ah ok
[03:14] <Riddell> murr: let me know if you have any problems
[03:14] <Tm_T> undercover I see... ;)
[03:16] <murr> Riddell: i will
[03:16] <murr> Tm_T: hehe, in a way, maybe :)
[05:38] <jpatrick> Riddell: i think we've got a splash screen and kdm theme for Dapper...
[05:39] <Riddell> hmm?
[05:39] <jpatrick> You know the ones we were talking about a few days ago
[05:41] <jpatrick> I have no problem with GPLing my themes and would be honored to have them included in Dapper. I will be sure to update the splash and KDM themes in the next day or so to reflect a change to GPL.
[05:41] <Riddell> cool
[05:41] <Riddell> I do really like the themes
[05:41] <Riddell> but we need moodin in main first
[05:42] <jpatrick> he also said "I'm also working on a updated version of these themes that should be finished and uploaded to kde-look by this weekend so be sure to check them out too."
[05:42] <Riddell> and canonical may be getting some stuff made professionally that might overlap it
[05:42] <Riddell> but great, thanks for contacting him
[05:42] <jpatrick> no problem
[05:43] <hunger> Hmmm.... konqueror should really detect forwarding loops:-)
[05:44] <mornfall> *wibble*
[05:45] <Riddell> hunger: doesn't it?
[05:45] <Riddell> mornfall: what's up?
[05:45] <hunger> Riddell: Try http://www.novell.com/coolsolutions/tip/16646.html
[05:45] <mornfall> CAV submission deadline today, everyone wonkies
[05:46] <Riddell> CAV?
[05:46] <mornfall> cav-conference.org
[05:46] <hunger> Riddell: konqueror keeps looping between two webpages when visiting this link... FF works:-(
[05:47] <Riddell> hunger: works for me
[05:47] <jpatrick> hunger: me too
[05:48] <hunger> Hmmm... It keeps switching between two urls for me:-/
[05:48] <Riddell> hunger: KDE version?  kubuntu version?
[05:48] <jpatrick> what konq version?
[05:48] <hunger> Riddell: dapper-kde351-testing debs.
[05:48] <hunger> Riddell: ... which work great in general by the way.
[05:49] <Riddell> same as me
[05:50] <jpatrick> hello raphink 
[05:50] <hunger> Hmmm... what did I break now?
[05:50] <Riddell> Tonio_: new kdbus out
[05:51] <Riddell> raphink: fancy packaging clickspotter?
[05:53] <jpatrick> Riddell: I thought that last word was something else for a while ;)
[05:53] <Tonio_> Riddell: okay, let's update
[05:54] <Riddell> Tonio_: I've no idea if it'll need a UVF exception though
[05:54] <Riddell> jpatrick: hmm?
[05:54] <jpatrick> nm
[06:10] <Tonio_> Riddell: is kdbus uploaded ?
[06:10] <Tonio_> ho yes I received kathie's mail....
[06:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: according to what I've seen, specific ubuntu packages can be uploaded. raphink uploaded soundkonverter without the need of exception....
[06:13] <Tonio_> Riddell: I'm not sure, but I think exceptions are only for debian synchronized packages..... I can be wrong anyway...
[06:27] <Tonio_> Riddell: kdbus uploaded
[06:39] <hunger> Wow! You can finally resize the System Settings!
[06:40] <hunger> OK... only works when you resized the first view, but at least it does work.
[06:52] <hunger> Is there a way to stop konq from embedding kpdf?
[06:55] <hunger> Ah, found it:-)
[06:55] <jpatrick> excellent excellent :)
[06:56] <hunger> jpatrick: Sorry for spamming the channel... I should move to #ubuntu or something instead.
[06:57] <jpatrick> no!
[06:57] <hunger> jpatrick: OK, OK, I'll stay:-)
[07:22] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: not sure if it's cups or kde, but kde printer utils can't talk to cups server.
[07:23] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: yeah, cups 1.2 and kde don't talk well
[07:23] <Riddell> it's one of the larger issues facing dapper
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> crap, so far that's the only real issue I've got too.
[07:23] <LeeJunFan> Guess that's good at least.
[07:24] <LeeJunFan> yeah, since configuring cups any other way just blows.
[07:26] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: well, that and the admin mode buttons being a pita again.
[07:29] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: what's up with them?
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: well it's working now. hehe. Maybe it was just the printer module, could have sworn it happened on something else yesterday. I'll let you know.
[07:30] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: if I see it again on something that I know is working.
[07:31] <Riddell> please do
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: kdeprint has nothing to do with this is it? http://tinyurl.com/87cck
[07:42] <LeeJunFan> Riddell: ah, I see. That's not a complete fix.
[07:43] <Riddell> LeeJunFan: it's related in so far as they're both caused by cups API changes
[07:43] <Riddell> but that fix is already in
[09:37] <kozz> what has happened with the KDE 3.5 packages for Breezy PPC?
[09:37] <Riddell> kozz: the machine got moved and we packages stayed behind
[09:37] <Riddell> kozz: breezy or dapper?
[09:38] <kozz> breezy, amu did earlier put some package online for testing
[09:39] <Riddell> kozz: please test these out...   deb http://kubuntu.org/packages/kde351/ breezy main
[09:39] <Riddell> hi kkathman 
[09:39] <kkathman> howdy :)
[09:40] <Riddell> kkathman: if you want to write documentation talk to jjesse about what needs done
[09:40] <kozz> will try, I do not run breezy anymore, someone asked me :)
[09:40] <kozz> will come back to you with a report later
[09:40] <kozz> but thanks
[09:40] <kkathman> ok kewl  be glad to
[09:40] <Riddell> kozz: please let me know how it goes
[09:40] <Riddell> kkathman: if you want to make packages I'm looking for someone to pack
[09:40] <Riddell> package clickspotter
[09:40] <Riddell> which is a curious one being ruby 
[09:41] <jjesse> kkathman: working on finishing up the quickguide and also starting on hacking at the desktopguide... check out the wiki page on DocteamGettingStarted
[09:41] <Riddell> see KubuntuPackageGuide and numberous other places for info on how
[09:41] <kkathman> Riddell:  im in one of those situations where I need to learn completely how...I have a breezy install right now
[09:41] <robotgeek> kkathman: you can join up with me :)
[09:41] <kkathman> I know sketchy how to
[09:41] <kkathman> jjesse and robotgeek  just let me know what I can do
[09:42] <jjesse> Riddell: have you looked at the packaging guide that is in svn? its starting to rock from what i hear
[09:42] <Riddell> jjesse: no I haven't yet
[09:42] <Riddell> jjesse: is anything happeneing with the adept guide?
[09:42] <jjesse> kkathman: start off at DocteamGettingStarted and also just by reading the docs at doc.ubuntu.com and start looking for changes
[09:42] <robotgeek> kkathman: i just picked it up, i think i will learn more about it in the meeting today. (maybe it's not in the agenda though)
[09:43] <kkathman> jjesse: okie dokie...I can just edit these if I find errors or what?
[09:43] <jjesse> Riddell: i sent a message to person who was working on it last and he was going to review it, haven't heard back from him
[09:43] <jjesse> kkathman: create a .diff and email it to me and i'll commit it ot the svn... after several quality commits we can give you commit access
[09:43] <kkathman> robotgeek: Hobbsee was starting to teach me...and then she left out
[09:43] <jjesse> Riddell: would you like me to take over it?  i know mornfall wanted to move it up kde docs
[09:44] <Riddell> jjesse: I haven't seen any activity on it for a while, I think it's fine to be taken over
[09:44] <kkathman> jjesse:  excellent. I'll take a look
[09:46] <robotgeek> kkathman: i gotta run now too, but we meet up in the evening?
[09:46] <kkathman> robotgeek: okie doke !
[09:46] <robotgeek> kkathman: i should draft out a POA soon, i guess
[09:46] <kkathman> jjesse:  email or wiki?   Mine is wiki.ubuntu.com/KorkyKathman
[09:46] <kkathman> robotgeek: great...lets chat about that
[09:47] <robotgeek> so, we can split up work and stuff. 
[09:47] <robotgeek> alrite, kkathman also /j #ubuntu-doc :)
[09:47] <kkathman> k
[09:51] <jjesse> kkathman: wiki.ubuntu.com/JonathanJesse
[09:54] <kkathman> thanks :)
[10:20] <KabelKasper> Riddell: Hi, I have a small problem with kooka from 3.5.1
[10:20] <Riddell> KabelKasper: hmm?
[10:20] <KabelKasper> Riddell: it says that it can not find the sane installation.
[10:21] <KabelKasper> but libsane is installed
[10:21] <Riddell> do you have sane installed?
[10:21] <Riddell> hmm
[10:22] <KabelKasper> Riddell: but when it starts it asks me if i whant it to use my scanner
[10:23] <KabelKasper> kooka from 3.5.0 was ok
[10:23] <KabelKasper> Riddell: Ahhh, and thank you for the CD's.
[10:24] <Riddell> kooka doesn't even start for me
[10:25] <KabelKasper> ;) hihi
[10:28] <KabelKasper> Riddell: when i#m starting it out of the konsole it says:
[10:28] <KabelKasper> vloechte@alfred:~$ kooka
[10:28] <KabelKasper> [snapscan]  Cannot open firmware file /path/to/your/firmware/file.bin.
[10:28] <KabelKasper> [snapscan]  Edit the firmware file entry in snapscan.conf.
[10:28] <KabelKasper> Riddell: But before the upgrade it worked
[10:29] <Riddell> ah, linux problem then, not my departement :)
[10:29] <KabelKasper>  :-D 
[10:30] <Riddell> snapscan is part of sane
[10:30] <Riddell> report to malone I'd say
[10:30] <KabelKasper> Riddell: I'm still on breezy if thats of interrest
[10:31] <Riddell> oh, hmm
[10:31] <Riddell> check if xsane works?
[10:34] <KabelKasper> Riddell: i'll test xsane
[10:38] <kozz> Riddell: seems to work
[10:38] <kozz> there is however one thing, with gwenview
[10:39] <Riddell> kozz: hmm?
[10:39] <kozz> havent used gwenview before, using kview, but pictures in gwenview are kind of.. .yellow
[10:39] <kozz> when they are shrink
[10:39] <Riddell> kozz: what version of gwenview?
[10:39] <kozz> 1.2.0
[10:40] <Riddell> kozz: known problem, ppc only
[10:40] <Riddell> kozz: fixed in dapper, try asking for a backport
[10:40] <Riddell> Mez: ^^
[10:40] <kozz> ok, works on my main machine in dapper, but now when I tried in breezy I saw erros
[10:40] <KabelKasper> Riddell: Thats strange xsane says: error while opening the device snapscan:libusb:001:004  :-S But since last week i did nothing than updating KDE
[10:41] <kozz> Riddell: except for that, KDE 3.5.1 seems to work on PPC Breezy :)
[10:43] <Riddell> kozz: excellent, thanks a lot
[10:43] <Riddell> kozz: does kooka work by any chance?
[10:43] <kozz> it starts
[10:43] <kozz> but I don't have any scanner
[10:44] <kozz> v 0.44
[10:45] <Riddell> ok, 1 step better than I have it
[10:49] <kozz> cool, kooka can try to scan with my tv-card
[10:49] <kozz> but it doens't work... ;)