[01:32] <artnay> ok, I made some wiki updates
[01:32] <artnay> shall we make an agenda for the meeting now?
[06:36] <Tm_T> artnay: ping
[06:51] <viller> hi
[07:04] <Tm_T> hullo
[07:18] <artnay> Tm_T: pong
[07:20] <Tm_T> artnay: anything to improve? http://kapsi.fi/~tm_travolta/kuvat/temp/foo-01.png
[07:21] <Tm_T> I think bit more contrast to paper part of it
[07:21] <artnay> that is nice, good work on that
[07:21] <Tm_T> yeah, I finally did something, 5min gimping mostly
[07:21] <artnay> maybe the clip could use ubuntus palette?
[07:22] <artnay> like brown or smth
[07:22] <Tm_T> hehe
[07:22] <Tm_T> that is for Kopete ;)
[07:22] <Tm_T> and will be used only 16x16
[07:22] <artnay> nah, do not be so sure of that ;) svg available?
[07:22] <Tm_T> nope
[07:22] <artnay> :(
[07:23] <Tm_T> but I can try to make one if needed, it's guite simple afterall
[07:23] <Tm_T> quite even
[07:23] <Tm_T> and with svg everyone will be able to read the text there =)
[07:25] <Tm_T> another issue, related to fonts
[07:25] <Tm_T> artnay: have you any idea where one important font disappeared?
[07:26] <Tm_T> -misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed--*-*-*-*-c-*-*-* <- not found anymore in dapper, was in breezy and long after it
[07:26] <artnay> sorry, no idea
[07:27] <artnay> in which package was it in breezy?
[07:27] <artnay> actually I am running breezy on this laptop
[07:27] <Tm_T> hmm, no idea, but osd_cat (xosd program) doesn't work without it
[07:27] <Tm_T> and I have ~all font packages installed
[07:29] <artnay> dpkg: *misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed* not foundsdpkg: *misc-fixed-medium-r-semicondensed* not foundfuck this
[07:30] <artnay> terrible lag
[07:33] <Tm_T> "foundfuck" ?
[07:33] <Tm_T> meh
[07:34] <Tm_T> artnay aka foundfuck
[07:34] <artnay> :p
[07:34] <Tm_T> ] ;=
[07:34] <artnay> no, really. just lagging
[07:34] <Tm_T> yeah yeah
[07:35] <Tm_T> so, font name is "fixed"
[07:36] <artnay> shouldnt it be in x11 fonts?
[07:36] <artnay> how have you been able to aptget osd_cat if it depends on certain font that is not available? :o
[07:37] <artnay> broken deps?
[07:37] <Tm_T> no idea
[07:38] <Tm_T> or, that font is dropped from package what is xosd's dependencies
[07:40] <Tm_T> artnay: you have kio-apt? apt:/show?xosd-bin
[07:41] <artnay> blah, once again ssh died
[07:41] <Tm_T> hehe
[07:42] <artnay> no, running gnome at the moment (I really do not know why)
[07:43] <artnay> kios are wonderful :)
[07:43] <Tm_T> aye :)
[07:43] <artnay> I really need to get my primary comp fixed, without it I am not able to do much
[07:43] <Tm_T> ok, depends:   libc6 (>= 2.3.4-1), libx11-6, libxext6, libxinerama1, libxosd2 (>= 2.2.13)
[07:43] <Tm_T> so no fonts directly in dependencies
[07:43] <artnay> maybe it is a bug
[07:43] <artnay> launchpad... ;)
[07:44] <Tm_T> ;(
[07:44] <Tm_T> libxosd suggest:   xfonts-base-transcoded
[07:45] <Tm_T> so, I'll try reinstall that package
[07:46] <Tm_T> Reinstallation of xfonts-base-transcoded is not possible, it cannot be downloaded.
[07:46] <Tm_T> :(
[07:48] <Tm_T> so, that package is not in mirrors anymore
[07:52] <Tm_T> artnay: looks like whole punch of abse fonts are gone from dapper mirrors
[07:53] <Tm_T> xfonts-100dpi-transcoded xfonts-75dpi-transcoded both gone
[07:59] <artnay> try packages ubuntu
[07:59] <artnay> if breezy had them
[08:00] <Tm_T> aye
[08:00] <Tm_T> I try first finnish mirrors, looks like se. is fucked anyway
[08:01] <Tm_T> Uriah Heep - Rain
[08:07] <Tm_T> artnay: hum, no, not even in breezy :o
[08:11] <Tm_T> artnay: those packages are installed since hoary here :o
[08:11] <Tm_T> but, why they're not provided in breezy and dapper?
[08:17] <artnay> Tm_T: no idea
[08:30] <Tm_T> artnay: I have small idea, "because with utf-8 you don't need them"
[08:31] <Tm_T> but I have ISO8859-15 locales
[08:31] <Tm_T> and no way I'm moving to utf-8 without reinstalling all
[08:32] <Tm_T> and we can't expect all users have utf-8 locales
[08:48] <artnay> yep
[11:14] <Tm_T> artnay: aye, I file abug, and maybe provide packages too ;(