[12:26] boy, we are a lively bunch today [12:28] lol === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Ubugtu [n=bugbot@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying_ [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock_ [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === freeflying [n=freeflyi@61.190.65.12] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:52] wow no activity today ;) [01:56] not very much at all, everybody must be working hard ;-) [01:57] Career Fair was today [01:58] Kyral: how was that? [01:58] eh [01:58] I targetted IBM === mhz [n=mhz_chil@pc-252-84-215-201.cm.vtr.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:02] Kyral: did it go well do you think? [02:03] eh, my GPA will sink me everytime [02:05] well, a GPA isn't everything. You just need to be a MOTU and then they'll be begging you ;-) === ajmitch hasn't got many begging at his door [02:07] lol [02:09] hmm, all this time I was thinking I'd get a job by being a MOTU :-( [02:09] heh [02:10] hi MOTU's [02:10] thank goodness I kept my day job ;-) [02:11] not much activity.. so I got a question [02:11] warning - this is 'lame' question [02:12] I need to copy something into debian/ subdirectory [02:12] so I need to use some copying command in rules file [02:12] is there any preferred way to do copying? [02:12] is cp -vr ok? [02:12] copy it from where? [02:13] from orig source dir [02:13] why does it not get installed in debian/tmp? [02:14] azeem: let's say that I got some tar.gz with sources [02:14] anyway, you can also use dh_install for that, provided you don't pass it --sourcedir=debian/tmp [02:14] azeem: then I extract this somewehere and add /debian directory in this tree [02:16] azeem: and then I want to copy some files from orig tree to debian/ [02:17] but the problem is that I don't want to copy files but also subdirs and files in these subdirs [02:17] during package build? [02:17] I just want to copy tree structure [02:17] azeem: yes [02:17] and this "add /debian directory in this tree" is also during package build? === azeem is confused [02:18] I just want to build package with some webapp that doesn't have any makefiles [02:18] I see [02:18] and also has al ot of directories and subdirectories [02:18] well, I think dh_install copies files recursively [02:19] ok I'll try this [02:19] or just use cp -a or cp -r or whatever [02:20] I thought that dh_install is simmilar to install... so it cannot install files recursively === hub [n=hub@toronto-hs-216-138-231-194.s-ip.magma.ca] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:27] I think it acts recursively, but I am not sure === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089F6AC.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [02:56] Nafallo_away: patch(es) sent. === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089DD81.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === slomo_ [n=slomo@ubuntu/member/slomo] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@ubuntu/member/zakame] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bddebian [n=bddebian@71.224.172.103] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rikai [n=gtk2@pool-70-105-244-62.port.east.verizon.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=phreak@54.161.205.68.cfl.res.rr.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:26] if entry.parent_id == orig_root_id === LaserJoc1 [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-142.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJoc1 [n=LaserJoc@ppp-69-239-159-142.dsl.renocs.pacbell.net] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:46] hi all! [04:46] Heya LaserJock === Burgundavia [n=corey@S0106000000cc07fc.gv.shawcable.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:47] heya LaserJock , bddebian [04:47] hey LaserJock Burgundavia [04:47] Howdy zakame [04:47] and Burgundavia :) [04:48] and robotgeek and Burgundavia ;-P [04:48] I discovered Jabber today, thanks to raphink [04:48] hi bddebian [04:48] ooh [04:49] LaserJock: maybe you want to give me a hand with this program? [04:50] if I can, I'm kinda busy tonight [04:50] LaserJock: http://internap.dl.sourceforge.net/sourceforge/opende/ode-0.5.tgz [04:51] take your time, if you get that done, i can go thru it and finish off the rest [04:51] robotgeek: so what do you need? === zakame [n=zak@210.213.72.54] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:52] i got thru the dh_make stage, but the program doesn't use autoconf, but some weird thing which uses a configuration tool. to make it worse, i think it's a library [04:52] hello all [04:54] hi Burgundavia [04:55] robotgeek: it looks like you just need to patch the config/user-settings [04:56] that file doesn't have much LaserJock [04:58] robotgeek: but I think you need to patch config/user-settings to have the appropriate values and then you can use debian/rules to do make configure [04:59] LaserJock: or is it config/makefile.unix-gcc [05:00] robotgeek: no, you set PLATFORM in the user-settings to unix-gcc [05:01] yeah, and then it picks up config/makefile.unix-gcc as the Makefile to use, in addition to the one in the top dir [05:02] right, but all you have to do is patch the config/user-settings [05:02] hmm, okay. since i'm lost, i'll go back and give DNMG a rereading, maybe there's something i'm missing [05:03] robotgeek: actually, it doesn't look like you need to even patch it. It should just work [05:04] LaserJock: i need to add a make install , i am unsure of where to put it in [05:04] robotgeek: well, you might have to patch makefile.unix-gcc for the X libs [05:05] robotgeek: you don't need to add a make install, you could just do it in rules [05:05] hmm, okay. [05:05] robotgeek: look at the INSTALL file [05:06] okay, there [05:06] i just need to copy that last part for the install, right? in rules? [05:07] right except you don't want to install into /usr/local/ [05:07] yeah, needs to go to /usr/lib [05:08] well, actually it will go into ${CURDIR}/debian/tmp/ode/usr/lib/ or something like that [05:08] yeah, [05:08] i just got messed up with the rules file then, i guess [05:15] robotgeek: am I making sense? [05:15] LaserJock: yes, i think i figured it out. thanks for you help! [05:16] robotgeek: ok cool, let me know if you need more [05:16] LaserJock: sure :) === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.198.148] has joined #ubuntu-motu === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === robitaille [n=robitail@ubuntu/member/robitaille] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bpuccio [n=brian@ool-457a9c38.dyn.optonline.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:34] anybody know of a way I could get vnc easily installed? [07:34] there are some problems right now with the dependecies === seth|lappy [n=seth@ubuntu/member/seth] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:57] oh my gosh, no vnc packages (vnc4 or tightvnc) are building right :( [08:01] are they in universe? [08:02] LaserJock, looking for client or server? [08:02] yes, but they are FTBFS [08:02] server [08:02] why are they FTBFS? [08:03] dependencies + other stuff [08:03] whats the other stuff [08:03] deps are easy [08:03] malone bug #29428 [08:03] Malone bug 29428 in vnc: "vnc (and vnc4) ships it's own XFree86 server code" [Normal,Rejected] http://launchpad.net/bugs/29428 [08:04] I tried doko's packages but the .diff.tgz file seems to have the wrong md5sum [08:04] I also tried tightvnc but I couldn't get it to make a source package after I fixed the deps problem [08:08] right now, with doko's source package I'm getting "cp: target `xorg-server/hw/vnc/' is not a directory: No such file or director" when I try to build it in a dapper pbuilder [08:13] right now though I just need some type of vnc server so I can connect to my Ubuntu computer from home === LaserJock [n=LaserJoc@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === LaserJock [n=mantha@ubuntu/member/laserjock] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-18-236.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch [i=ajmitch@port169-250.ubs.maxnet.net.nz] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-109-113.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === zakame [n=zak@210.213.77.124] has joined #ubuntu-motu === viviersf [n=cain@196.44.1.98] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gervystar [n=gervysta@62.94.208.119] has joined #ubuntu-motu === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [09:53] morning [09:53] hi ajmitch :) [09:54] hi siretart :) [09:54] seems like debian will move to /var/run on tempfs as well [09:55] good [09:55] less work for us to fix daemons in universe :) [09:56] yes === ajmitch has met a few fellow DDs here this week :) [09:59] I should get a few GPG sigs once they process their keysigning list [10:00] ah. :) [10:02] it's been a great conference so far [10:02] tomorrow morning we have sabdfl giving his keynote talk [10:02] and mjg59 is talking about acpi later === tvo [n=tobi@5354EA9B.cable.casema.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu [10:18] ajmitch: do you have a minute to review https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/ReportingBugsToDebian for language/common sense? [10:20] in a min :) === ajmitch should probably write up some "Here's a patch" templates for mail [10:21] okay [10:21] whishlist -> wishlist [10:21] oh === ajmitch might go through & do a spelling/grammar fixup :) [10:22] it looks ok though [10:22] thank you. my english spelling is cruel, I know :( [10:23] no it's better than most english speakers [10:23] :) [10:23] I've just seen a malone bug where the submitter was asked to file a bug in debian, and replied with the question 'how' [10:24] and I thought such a wiki page was useful anyway, so I wrote it [10:25] thank you :) [10:26] :) [10:26] reminder: the poll is open! [10:27] ah yes [10:31] can the other poll be removed? [10:32] If I knew how, I would do that [10:32] yes, it's launchpad.. :) [10:32] :) === ptolo [n=senko@83-131-95-248.adsl.net.t-com.hr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Seveas [n=seveas@ubuntu/member/seveas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === StevenK [n=stevenk@14.5.233.220.exetel.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lucas [n=lucas@ubuntu/member/lucas] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:23] hello motu world! [11:25] hello dholbach [11:25] hi lucas [11:26] dholbach: have you received some feedback from kamion/mdz regarding the UVF exc req . [11:26] ? === MagnusR [n=magru@85.194.14.142] has joined #ubuntu-motu [11:29] lucas: seems not [11:34] huhu dholbach, hi lucas === ajmitch waves to dholbach === raptoid [n=raptoid@85.100.45.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:03] tseng: beagle whine. === raptoid [n=raptoid@85.100.45.207] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mez [n=Mez@ubuntu/member/mez] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:22] wb dholbach [12:22] re raphink === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:24] hm, I wonder if I should sit down & write up something nice & beg for a bounty for selinux stuff ;) [12:26] siretart: do you think just those 3 poll options will fit most people? [12:27] :) [12:27] hi ajmitch === ajmitch really really really hopes it doesn't end up as 14:00 UTC [12:27] hi raphink [12:27] 1400UTC == 0300NZDT === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-9-46-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:28] ajmitch: you had the opportunity to add additional options ;) - I've taken them from sistoptys email, which also didn't get answered [12:28] siretart: thanks, the opportunity is that I have to ask here first :) [12:28] hehe [12:29] and I've been just a little busy this week with LCA [12:29] ajmitch: do you have some time to review two thing on REVU? [12:29] raphink: 00:30 here === wjb [n=warren@c220-237-173-120.lowrp1.vic.optusnet.com.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Mirno [n=mirspcm@office.spcmnet.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:30] siretart: I coulnd't add options to the poll... [12:30] raphink: because the poll has already started [12:30] maybe because I'm not admin in the motu group [12:31] no, nobody can anymore [12:31] I think I just can't turn up if it ends up as tuesday :) [12:31] but that's the same for others for any time [12:31] siretart: no yesterday I couldn't edit it [12:31] oh [12:31] strange [12:32] because I forgot to add you as admin [12:32] siretart: _yesterday_, before the poll began, I couldn't edit it [12:32] raphink: I see. sorry, I cannot do anything about it now :( [12:32] yes I think so [12:32] could you do so ? :) [12:32] raphink: just blame me :) [12:33] ajmitch: hehe ;) [12:33] ajmitch: lucas should be an admin in the group, too [12:34] haha [12:34] I found photos of myself on someone's LCA photos [12:34] & lathiat [12:35] really? [12:35] :) [12:35] yes, really [12:35] I don't think I can set you as admin [12:35] it's not letting me [12:35] hehe [12:36] ok [12:36] I should ask ogra? [12:36] http://gallery.toomuchwork.net/v/Travels/New_Zealand_2006/Dunedin2/IMG_4674.JPG.html [12:36] bad photo :) [12:36] yes === jinty [n=jinty@135.Red-80-37-34.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [12:37] ajmitch: which one are you? [12:37] ogra__: ping [12:37] raphink: guess :P [12:37] hmmm... [12:37] hehe [12:38] ok I'll guess the other one is not an ubuntu guy and that gives the answer ;) [12:38] am I right? [12:38] raphink, fiex [12:38] *fixed [12:38] raphink: quite right [12:38] thanks ogra__ :) [12:39] :) [12:39] raphink: if you're not sure, you can ask ogra__, he's supposedly met me before :) [12:39] though I'm not sure if he's blanked out those weeks from stress :) [12:39] supposedly [12:39] just from preparation for the sprint :) [12:40] ah [12:40] that starts monday? [12:41] it would be nice to go, but I know it's just distro team :) [12:42] and its hard work, not comparable with a conference [12:43] yes, hard work+lots of stress [12:43] I wouldn't expect it to be conference like === herzi [n=herzi@d024024.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ajmitch has been coming home & hacking until 3am lately anyway :) [12:44] ****ing awk yesterday [12:45] such a simple awk construct, worked differently in mawk than in gawk [12:46] mawk's regex engine is broken & incomplete [12:47] so I'll have to have the package build-dep on gawk, sigh === hub [n=hub@storm-gw.xandros.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === janm [n=jmalonzo@ppp4592.dsl.pacific.net.au] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === ogra_ [n=ogra@p5089EC33.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === rob [n=Robert@ubuntu/member/rob] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:41] yeah === raphink just got the business cards he had ordered online :) [01:41] cool [01:41] :) [01:42] so raphink, what is your business ? [01:42] I mean the ubuntu cards :) [01:42] ah [01:42] still cool [01:43] yes :) === ogra__ [n=ogra@p5089DCA0.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jdong_ [n=jdong@d149-67-90-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [01:47] mplayer's cpudetect routines don't work for me on a A64 [01:49] actually, somehow HAVE_MMX, etc are not defined === Hirion [n=hirion@draugr.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raptoid [n=raptoid@85.96.211.182] has joined #ubuntu-motu === stratus [n=stratus@cronopio.rits.org.br] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Treenaks_ [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has joined #ubuntu-motu === fredix [n=fredix@85.65.97-84.rev.gaoland.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === doko_ [n=doko@dslb-084-059-095-153.pools.arcor-ip.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Tonio_ [n=tonio@cac94-5-82-229-219-55.fbx.proxad.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === highvoltage [n=Jono@196.36.161.235] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === cassidy [n=cassidy@f1-pc174.ulb.ac.be] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:01] dholbach: do we have any answers on uvf exceptions so far? [03:01] dholbach: should i not bother writing more? === claes [n=claes@62.65.64.125] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jsgotangco [n=jsg@210.4.60.17] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:08] tseng: not yet [03:08] (U asked this morning) [03:08] I [03:09] i didnt ask any less than a day ago for sure === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:13] tseng: I meant "I asked" not "you asked" [03:13] U is too close to I on the kb for me [03:13] lucas: oh. === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === mgalvin [n=mgalvin@ubuntu/member/mgalvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu === nlindblad [n=nlindbla@user179.217-10-120.netatonce.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:18] tseng: writing more? [03:18] tseng: as in discussing on our list? [03:22] whats there to answer ? [03:23] the process is clear, isnt it ? === zul [n=chuck@ubuntu/member/zul] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:27] hey === tvelocity [n=tony@ipa145.1.tellas.gr] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Gazer [n=gazer@adsl-teco-200-59-121-204.capfed2.uolsinectis.com.ar] has joined #ubuntu-motu === Yagisan [n=jamie@60-240-9-46-nsw-pppoe.tpgi.com.au] has left #ubuntu-motu [] === bddebian [n=bddebian@mail.ottens.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:34] Heya gang === zakame [n=zak@210.213.76.89] has joined #ubuntu-motu [03:47] good eeeeevening MOTUs!!! :) [03:50] Heya zakame [03:50] hi bddebian :-) [03:53] huhu bddebian, hi zakame [03:53] heya siretart :) [03:55] Heya siretart === trulux [n=lorenzo@unaffiliated/trulux] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ogra [n=ogra@ubuntu/member/ogra] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi [n=chatzill@69.44.168.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu === ompaul [n=ompaul@A-109-113.cust.iol.ie] has joined #ubuntu-motu === irvin [n=irvin@ubuntu/member/irvin] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:18] ogra: the process is clear up until the point where requests go off list to mdz [04:19] ogra: to get an actual answer [04:19] ogra: since its off list i have no idea if there was a response, or where the response will show up etc etc === jdong_ [n=jdong@d149-67-90-99.try.wideopenwest.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:19] ogra: should i bother dholbach every day until he tells me to upload? [04:20] ogra: (no) [04:20] heh [04:20] ogra: no you shouldn't [04:20] tseng, i think he wont answer every single request [04:20] ogra: oops [04:20] tseng: you shouldn't [04:20] if he doesnt answer every request, how do I have any idea what to do [04:20] discuss stuff on the mailing list, I'll hand stuff to Matt and Colin and report back ASAP [04:20] he will look ove them once a bunch is queued up [04:20] We can ALL discuss the changes on the list [04:21] and have a short interview with dholbach or me [04:21] the ALL of us discussing part is nice [04:21] It's nothing that needs to be blocked on me. [04:21] but seems to have no bearing on anything [04:21] hm can the MOTU LP admin add me to the group? :) [04:21] its just a pointless step [04:21] no bearing? [04:21] no influence [04:22] If people were in favor of doing it, I handed it to Matt. [04:22] It's not a "dholbach decides" thing. [04:22] I want to be sure about the stuff I hand to Matt and Colin, because they have enough to do and arguing with them is ... tough. [04:23] it was easier in breezy to update stuff in main than it is for universe now === Fuddl [n=fuddl@2001:6f8:9cf:0:20f:eaff:fe4d:d7b7] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:24] They want to have stuff sent to them, they want to have it batched. [04:24] ALL: it would be nice if prople who want to join the MOTU team could apply for it, i dont keep a list around with approved people all the time ... [04:24] If you have an idea, to fix the process and not dump all the review work on one person, please tell me. [04:25] Ibalon, added [04:25] ogra: is Ibalon a MOTU? [04:25] dholbach, * zakame ist jetzt bekannt als Ibalon [04:25] (sorry for the german) [04:25] Ah, right. :-) [04:26] i am used to matt and colin trusting what I do and leaving things pretty relaxed even in main [04:26] so this is just a pretty stark change [04:26] to making a detailed change report and waiting weeks [04:26] I wished it'd work better. [04:26] tseng, relaxed != dapper [04:27] ogra: we are talking about dapper universe [04:27] still we talk about software that people will use for 3-5 years worst case [04:27] and bugfix point relesases [04:29] ogra, dholbach : sorry, was away dealing with someone IRL :) === jsgotangco [n=jsg@ubuntu/member/jsgotangco] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:31] dholbach: could the requests to mdz at least be CC'd to the list so we can see replies? [04:32] I have no reply yet and as I said: I'm going to give an update ASAP [04:32] and yes, I can do it next time. [04:32] thanks === tseng hugs dholbach [04:32] ogra: thanks for adding me btw :) [04:32] :) === Gloubiboulga [n=gauvain@84.5.34.34] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:35] hello [04:35] heya Gloubiboulga :) [04:35] hi zakame === marcin` [n=user@194.114.146.58] has joined #ubuntu-motu === psusi_ [n=chatzill@69.44.168.233] has joined #ubuntu-motu === j^ [n=j@e178046104.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === phanatic [n=phanatic@3e70c8b9.adsl.enternet.hu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [04:57] hi people [04:58] Hello phanatic [04:58] hi phanatic [04:59] zakame: ping === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:11] phanatic: pong [05:12] (sorry, am updating my dapper chroot atm) === asw [n=asw@karuna.med.harvard.edu] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:14] zakame: then sorry for disturbing. i only wanted to ask, if you have had the time for revuing my nanoweb package... [05:15] phanatic: I have some notes, just let me post it on REVU :) [05:17] zakame: okay, thanks :) [05:18] phanatic: no prob :) === SEJeff [n=SEJeff@12-203-76-59.client.insightBB.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lbm [n=lbm@x1-6-00-13-10-7a-d1-e4.k233.webspeed.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jpatrick [n=patrick@153.Red-83-37-101.dynamicIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === lloydinho [n=andreas@rosinante.egmont-kol.dk] has joined #ubuntu-motu === jinty [n=jinty@115.Red-80-24-9.staticIP.rima-tde.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === JohnnyMast [n=rave@84-104-9-27.cable.quicknet.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:50] wb dholbach , JohnnyMast [05:50] re [05:53] wb dholbach === raphink [n=raphink@ubuntu/member/raphink] has joined #ubuntu-motu [05:55] wb raphink [05:57] ty zakame [06:00] I think I just managed to package my software. Can I have some tips what I could/should do with it? And maybe some proofraeding too, as I have never packaged anything before. [06:01] cyberix: read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReviewingGuide === Hieronymus [n=jeroen@cp413115-a.tilbu1.nb.home.nl] has joined #ubuntu-motu === dholbach_ [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === soumyadip [n=soumyadi@59.93.246.35] has joined #ubuntu-motu === herzi [n=herzi@c200197.adsl.hansenet.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === plugwash [i=plugwash@p10link.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu === koke [n=koke@ubuntu/member/koke] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:29] siretart: Ok, what now? === Treenaks [n=martijn@thuis.foodfight.org] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:32] cyberix: so you are still thinking your package is fine? ;) [06:32] cyberix: if yes, you might want to upload it to revu. pass me your gpg id [06:38] siretart: See launchpad id cyberix [06:38] Can I post there the source package? [06:38] I added debian directory to my new upstream release. [06:39] http://www.cs.helsinki.fi/u/twruottu/mi2svg/ [06:39] cyberix: did you really read the page I told you to read? [06:40] I checked with my virtual pen beside every header on the page. [06:40] please look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CommonPackagingMistakes/ChangingTheOrigTarball, and http://revu.tauware.de [06:41] short: please don't include debian/ dirs in your upstream tarball. and please provide tar.gz as well. [06:46] I put them there because I wanted to publish them somewhere, so no-one would need to dplicated that work [06:48] I can't see how having them in upstream tar ball is worse than not having them at all, [06:49] cyberix: they should go in the diff.gz === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:50] cyberix: that doesn't matter. you can still distribute your packaging work in the .diff.gz [06:50] cyberix: I suggest to not distribute packaging work inside the .orig.tar.gz === FireRabbit [n=FireRabb@c-67-183-18-60.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [06:52] yeah, I think the general idea is that someone can go to the dowload site of the app your packaging and download their tarball and use it in the source package [06:54] siretart_: I've got a question about reporting bugs to debian. [06:54] LaserJock: yes? [06:54] siretart_: How do we link to our Malone bugs? [06:55] siretart_: should we be giving the Malone bug #s when we do a report to BTS? [06:55] LaserJock: how do we link what? === siretart1 [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has left #ubuntu-motu [] [06:56] I'm assuming we are doing a bug report in Debian because we have a bug in Malone [06:58] LaserJock: that would be nice, but is not required, I'd say. link them by mention the url to the malone bug in the message body === siretart_ [i=siretart@tauware.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:00] wtf?! === zenrox [n=zenrox@71.115.198.118] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:02] huh? [07:03] my primary uplink just died [07:05] gaah [07:10] gn8 all === j^_ [n=j@e178004217.adsl.alicedsl.de] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:12] gn8 zakame [07:12] :) === bryanf [n=bryan@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu === bryanf [n=bryan@wuw-ojr3gmca.dybb.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:37] morning all [07:37] hi ajmitch [07:38] hey ajmitch [07:39] hi bmonty [07:39] ajmitch, :) [07:39] LaserJock: hows life? [07:39] bmonty: busy, got a poster for a conference to work on, etc. [07:40] ajmitch: does fetchmail still work for you on tauware.de? [07:40] morning ajmitch [07:40] siretart: it did yesterday, I think? [07:40] I'll check [07:40] LaserJock: I've been busy also...travelling all this week and part of next [07:41] my primary uplink is down atm, and I fiddled with the dns config, to make requests load balance over both uplinks [07:41] stratus: I keep trying to post to utnubu-discuss & the mail gets dropped somewhere [07:41] so I'm curious if my config works as expected :) [07:41] siretart: nope [07:41] siretart: no route to host [07:41] stratus: so I can't join in the wonderful discussions ;) [07:41] ajmitch: what does tauware.de resolve for you? and what does 'line2.tauware.de' have as ip? [07:41] ajmitch, are you receiving a error message? if yes, can you send that to me? [07:41] bmonty: yeah, but I've been working on the Ubuntu Packaging Guide and I am thinking of trying a kinda large packaging project [07:41] stratus: absolutely none [07:42] tauware.de A 213.239.237.3 [07:42] ajmitch, really weird [07:42] LaserJock: I've been hacking on my mirror profiler app, but I'm almost ready to give up since someone keeps changing the format of the wiki page :( [07:42] ajmitch, are you subscribed with which email? [07:42] stratus: @debian.org [07:42] bmonty: which wiki page? [07:42] siretart: line2.tauware.de A 213.239.249.200 [07:42] ajmitch, ok i'll take a look, wait. [07:43] LaserJock: wiki.ubuntu.com/Archive [07:43] I can try & resubscribe with the ubuntu.com address [07:44] ajmitch: I changed dns config to make tauware.de include both 213.239.237.3 and 213.239.249.200. the latter is reachable, the former not [07:44] bmonty: hmm, weird [07:44] siretart: right, so round-robin dns [07:44] bmonty: my package had it's first release in 5 years and it involves 3 packages. [07:44] it'll resolve properly about half the time? [07:44] LaserJock: sounds like fun [07:45] siretart: or where did you put these 2 addresses? [07:45] bmonty: and it looks like the debian maintainer has forgotten about it :-) [07:45] bmonty!!! === Gervystar [n=alessand@ip-124-244.adsl.cheapnet.it] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:45] bmonty: Haven't "seen" you in a while :-) [07:45] bddebian: hey long time no see! [07:45] hi bmonty, bddebian [07:45] ajmitch: apache/webbrowsers seem really to do 'fail over' in this config. my website works for me fine, on every reload === dholbach [n=daniel@p54A650F7.dip.t-dialin.net] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] siretart: but tauware.de is only resolving to the bad ip address for me :) [07:46] siretart: it'll be cached in a DNS server somewhere [07:46] ajmitch: 194.8.57.12 gives the correct dns data === lakin [n=lakin@dsl-hill-66-18-228-60-cgy.nucleus.com] has joined #ubuntu-motu [07:46] (no, this is not my dns server, but the one from nobse ;) [07:46] siretart: sure, but there's a long ttl, and any of the dns servers that I use will cache the old data [07:47] right [07:47] LaserJock: is this another chemistry related package? [07:47] ajmitch: I just wanted to point you how you can reach your email atm: line2.tauware.de === ajmitch just edited .fetchmailrc, it reports no mail [07:47]