/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/02/01/#ubuntu-server.txt

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Xoritorwow02:36
Xoritorthats all i have to say02:36
Xoritorwow02:36
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ubijtsaXoritor: about what...08:58
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E0xmorning01:35
spike'morning E0x01:40
E0xsquid or dansguard what is better choose ?01:43
E0xerr squidguard*01:43
spikehow is packages inclusion regulated?02:07
spikeI was wondering why we should get alsa stuff by default, doesnt sound really useful on a server02:08
E0xtrue02:08
spikeehehe /me realizes know the "fun" of alsa-packages not 'sounding' useful02:09
spike:P02:09
spikealso, I do understand you could use dapper-server to install a wifi hotspot, but what's the point of wireless-tools too?02:13
spikewe should either include more stuff, and that's not possible, or just including wireless-tools pkg isnt that useful imho02:14
spikeand uhm, pcmciautils too, what's the point?02:15
spikethen, since the installation process offers a lvm partitioning options, and lvm2 tools are included, why also including evms ones?02:16
spikeif you prefer evms you can install it afterwards and redo ur config02:17
=== spike yet hasnt got the point is this stuff should be directed to -devel ML or not
spikelast for now: why do we get mdadm up and running even if no raid has been created?02:20
spikeI see the dependences makes it impossible to remove the pkg, and that's ok, but at least, if at install time no raid has been created, mdadm should be run @ boot02:21
lamont-awayspike: anything with a PCI bus can have PCMCIA.  not necessarily common on a server, but I expect that it does exist.03:02
spikelamont-away: I c. what about wireless, alsa and evms packages?03:04
lamont-awayone reason I might add pcmcia to a server would be to plug in a wireless card, generally just for connectivity, or to act as the AP03:04
lamont-awayISTR alsa gets involved in some winmodem support, which might be useful (I can think of one machine that, if it had a winmodem, I'd want that on..)03:05
lamont-awayas for default install, it might not hurt to not have it there.03:05
spikekeep in mind here I'm talking of default install here03:05
spikeok, that's what I meant03:06
spikeall of them of course can make sense on a server too, but not as default imho03:06
lamont-awayubuntu-standard is driven more by "if you show up at a random machine, what do you expect to be there" than it is by just ubuntu-server...  not sure which meta package is sucking in these parts, but if it's ubuntu-standard, then it probably wants to stay03:06
morrowpcmcia could also be usefull fuer some smartcard readers...03:08
morrowbut i think this is already to specialized on a default install03:08
spikeexactly03:08
spike*default* is the key here03:08
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spikehave you seen this? http://hands.com/d-i/05:33
spikeany chance to get it into ubuntu? also,it sounds nice for the NetworkBoot project too05:34
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troygood evening folks11:58
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