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Xoritor | wow | 02:36 |
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Xoritor | thats all i have to say | 02:36 |
Xoritor | wow | 02:36 |
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ubijtsa | Xoritor: about what... | 08:58 |
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E0x | morning | 01:35 |
spike | 'morning E0x | 01:40 |
E0x | squid or dansguard what is better choose ? | 01:43 |
E0x | err squidguard* | 01:43 |
spike | how is packages inclusion regulated? | 02:07 |
spike | I was wondering why we should get alsa stuff by default, doesnt sound really useful on a server | 02:08 |
E0x | true | 02:08 |
spike | ehehe /me realizes know the "fun" of alsa-packages not 'sounding' useful | 02:09 |
spike | :P | 02:09 |
spike | also, I do understand you could use dapper-server to install a wifi hotspot, but what's the point of wireless-tools too? | 02:13 |
spike | we should either include more stuff, and that's not possible, or just including wireless-tools pkg isnt that useful imho | 02:14 |
spike | and uhm, pcmciautils too, what's the point? | 02:15 |
spike | then, since the installation process offers a lvm partitioning options, and lvm2 tools are included, why also including evms ones? | 02:16 |
spike | if you prefer evms you can install it afterwards and redo ur config | 02:17 |
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spike | last for now: why do we get mdadm up and running even if no raid has been created? | 02:20 |
spike | I see the dependences makes it impossible to remove the pkg, and that's ok, but at least, if at install time no raid has been created, mdadm should be run @ boot | 02:21 |
lamont-away | spike: anything with a PCI bus can have PCMCIA. not necessarily common on a server, but I expect that it does exist. | 03:02 |
spike | lamont-away: I c. what about wireless, alsa and evms packages? | 03:04 |
lamont-away | one reason I might add pcmcia to a server would be to plug in a wireless card, generally just for connectivity, or to act as the AP | 03:04 |
lamont-away | ISTR alsa gets involved in some winmodem support, which might be useful (I can think of one machine that, if it had a winmodem, I'd want that on..) | 03:05 |
lamont-away | as for default install, it might not hurt to not have it there. | 03:05 |
spike | keep in mind here I'm talking of default install here | 03:05 |
spike | ok, that's what I meant | 03:06 |
spike | all of them of course can make sense on a server too, but not as default imho | 03:06 |
lamont-away | ubuntu-standard is driven more by "if you show up at a random machine, what do you expect to be there" than it is by just ubuntu-server... not sure which meta package is sucking in these parts, but if it's ubuntu-standard, then it probably wants to stay | 03:06 |
morrow | pcmcia could also be usefull fuer some smartcard readers... | 03:08 |
morrow | but i think this is already to specialized on a default install | 03:08 |
spike | exactly | 03:08 |
spike | *default* is the key here | 03:08 |
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spike | have you seen this? http://hands.com/d-i/ | 05:33 |
spike | any chance to get it into ubuntu? also,it sounds nice for the NetworkBoot project too | 05:34 |
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troy | good evening folks | 11:58 |
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