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| flint | ogra, Hey ollie!! | 12:37 |
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| flint | ogra, I am finally getting the test lab up and running... | 05:17 |
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| ogra | hey flint, thats cool :) | 01:27 |
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| scribe63 | anyone know where to get edubuntu rss feeds | 03:34 |
| ogra | what kind of rss feeds ? | 03:35 |
| scribe63 | I have been using Akregator on KDE, it has rss news feeds for ubuntu, kubuntu and kde. So i was wondering if there is a source for edubuntu rss news feeds. | 03:36 |
| ogra | nope | 03:37 |
| scribe63 | thanks | 03:37 |
| ogra | if you mean planet, we dont have such thing yet ... | 03:37 |
| ogra | but that would be a good idea for the near future though | 03:38 |
| scribe63 | the one's i see are like Ubuntu Fridge, Kubuntu and yeah Planet KDE. Not sure how this gets implimented though. Just started using that type of service. | 03:40 |
| ogra | since edubuntu is mainly a one man show developer wise, and i'm a lazy blogger, a edubuntu developer planet wouldnt make much sense, but there are a lot of additional activities going on where it would make sense to have an aggregating site of user blogs | 03:42 |
| ogra | additionally i normally send the bigger news items to the fridge ... | 03:42 |
| scribe63 | Cool, didn't know the ed -in- ubuntu was a one man show, will check the fridge then. Trying to keep abreast of experiences and usage of schooltool/bell and moodle. | 03:45 |
| ogra | :) | 03:45 |
| ogra | (it would be nice if it wasnt a one man show ;) ) | 03:46 |
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| steelballz | can anyone help me with an ltsp question? | 05:10 |
| ogra | sure | 05:11 |
| steelballz | With other distro's I run ltspadmin is there something similar so I can check to see if everything is working with out checking everything individually | 05:12 |
| ogra | in edubuntu ltsp is installed and configured in most parts out of the box | 05:13 |
| ogra | the only thing you have to do is to edit the dhcpd config, like dscribed in the install notes | 05:13 |
| ogra | (see this channels topic) | 05:14 |
| ogra | dont ever run ltspadmin on a edubuntu ltsp | 05:14 |
| steelballz | gotcha thanks | 05:14 |
| ogra | :) | 05:14 |
| ogra | if you have any probs dont hassle to ask here :) | 05:15 |
| steelballz | I am hand installing everything so I just wanted to make sure everything is running | 05:15 |
| steelballz | thanks again | 05:15 |
| ogra | oh, ok, so you dont use edubuntu ? | 05:16 |
| steelballz | No I do but I am using the latest version of live amd 64 and I have to install the 32 bit client seperately | 05:16 |
| ogra | oh, ok | 05:17 |
| ogra | sudo ltsp-build-client --arch i386 --mirror http://archive.ubuntu.com/ | 05:17 |
| ogra | that should be it ... | 05:17 |
| steelballz | I was working with you on this a week ago but I unfortunately haven't been able to get back to it until now | 05:17 |
| ogra | yup, i remember | 05:17 |
| ogra | if you have a i386 Cd handy, its even easier and faster to use this as the mirror | 05:18 |
| steelballz | I was actually going to build create a live 20060125 i386. It is pretty stable and install the i386 from that | 05:19 |
| ogra | hmm, not sure if it works with a livecd | 05:20 |
| steelballz | sorry i mean daily | 05:20 |
| ogra | ah :) | 05:20 |
| steelballz | I have your instructions on how to install it from the cd | 05:21 |
| ogra | ok | 05:21 |
| steelballz | So if I install the amd64 and add the i386 client and I use the deault ip settings of 192.168.0.254 am I good to go or are there other services or file mods i need to work on? | 05:24 |
| ogra | only the dhcpd.conf | 05:24 |
| steelballz | Excellent thanks | 05:25 |
| ogra | the services are the same on all arches, ltsp-build-client cares for the kernel being copied into place and ltsp-update-sshkeys cares for ssh | 05:25 |
| ogra | (the latter is run by the former ;) ) | 05:25 |
| steelballz | Oh so the ltsp-build-client takes care of the ssh | 05:28 |
| ogra | yup | 05:29 |
| steelballz | What have you found to be the best value thin client hardware? | 05:34 |
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| ogra | the ones sold at disklessworkstations.com are all quite nice | 05:36 |
| gand | Is there a way to automatic restart machine after power outage? | 05:36 |
| steelballz | gand: that is a setting in your bios | 05:37 |
| ogra | thats a BIOS settin | 05:37 |
| ogra | g | 05:37 |
| gand | how to set it? | 05:38 |
| ogra | in your BIOS settings | 05:38 |
| ogra | (but only if the mainboard supports it indeed) | 05:38 |
| ogra | most server mainboards do | 05:39 |
| gand | Mac G4? | 05:39 |
| ogra | no idea, sorry | 05:39 |
| gand | nothing trough software? | 05:40 |
| ogra | how would you do that ? | 05:40 |
| gand | I'm running edubuntu PC | 05:40 |
| gand | PPC | 05:40 |
| ogra | it can only be done in firmware/bios | 05:40 |
| ogra | dunno if openfirmware supports such settings | 05:41 |
| gand | On OS X there is a check in the system preference, I supposed there was something similar | 05:41 |
| ogra | nope | 05:41 |
| ogra | as i said, you need to access the firmware directly | 05:42 |
| gand | ok thanks | 05:43 |
| steelballz | ogra: what is the file i mod if I am using eth2 instead of eth0? | 05:56 |
| ogra | /etc/network/interfaces (or use the network gui tool) and /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 05:57 |
| ogra | dont forget to restart the dhcp server | 05:57 |
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| gregL31 | anyone new to edubuntu? | 06:38 |
| steelballz | ogra: The client came up but it's not working. It gets the ip but i get "TFTP prefix: /ltsp/" then several "trying to load: pxelinux.cfg*" then a "Could not find kernel image: linux" | 06:43 |
| ogra | linux ??? | 06:44 |
| ogra | that should read vmlinuz | 06:44 |
| ogra | look in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ | 06:45 |
| ogra | there should be vmlinuz (a link to the real image ) and initrd.img | 06:46 |
| steelballz | yes there is | 06:47 |
| ogra | and the pxelinux.cfg dir is there as well | 06:47 |
| ogra | ? | 06:47 |
| steelballz | yes | 06:48 |
| ogra | look in the file "default" inside this dir | 06:48 |
| ogra | DEFAULT vmlinuz ro initrd=initrd.img quiet splash | 06:48 |
| ogra | should be the only line in there | 06:48 |
| steelballz | that is correct | 06:49 |
| ogra | fine | 06:49 |
| ogra | paste your dhcpd.conf to a pastenbin please | 06:49 |
| steelballz | I am on another pc with x-chat. I will switch but that will take me a minute | 06:50 |
| ogra | oki | 06:50 |
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| steelballz | ogra: are you still on? | 07:24 |
| ogra | yup | 07:24 |
| steelballz | ogra: i am an irc noobe and for some reason i cant\'t connect on the server I just built. It keeps saying "Connecting to local host (127.0.0.1)" I don't know why it's trying to do that | 07:26 |
| steelballz | maybe i will just use sneaker net and copy the files to my usb flash | 07:26 |
| ogra | just make sure the filename and root-path entrys in your config are right | 07:27 |
| ogra | filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; | 07:28 |
| ogra | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 07:28 |
| ogra | thats how it should look like | 07:29 |
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| roy | tada | 07:30 |
| ogra | tada ? :) | 07:30 |
| roy | ogra: what did you want me to do again | 07:30 |
| ogra | just make sure the filename and root-path entrys in your config are right | 07:31 |
| ogra | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 07:31 |
| ogra | filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; | 07:31 |
| ogra | thats how it should look like | 07:31 |
| roy | I thought you wanted me to send you something | 07:31 |
| ogra | yes, the dhcpd.conf you use ... but mainly to see these two lines | 07:32 |
| roy | How do I send you the file? sorry | 07:35 |
| ogra | paste it to a pastebin | 07:35 |
| roy | And that is where | 07:36 |
| ogra | paste.ubuntulinux.nl is one i think | 07:37 |
| roy | What i mean is, is pastebin something on xchat? | 07:37 |
| ogra | nope, a web form | 07:38 |
| roy | I not sure what that is can I just paste it her? | 07:40 |
| roy | authoritative; | 07:40 |
| roy | subnet 192.168.0.0 netmask 255.255.255.0 { | 07:40 |
| roy | range 192.168.0.20 192.168.0.250; | 07:40 |
| roy | option domain-name "example.com"; | 07:40 |
| roy | option domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1; | 07:40 |
| roy | option broadcast-address 192.168.0.255; | 07:40 |
| roy | option routers 192.168.0.1; | 07:40 |
| roy | option subnet-mask 255.255.255.0; | 07:40 |
| roy | filename "/ltsp/pxelinux.0"; | 07:40 |
| roy | option root-path "/opt/ltsp/i386"; | 07:40 |
| roy | } | 07:40 |
| ogra | no, please dont paste in the channel next time | 07:41 |
| ogra | (other channels block you out if you paste more than five lines) | 07:41 |
| ogra | the file looks ok | 07:42 |
| ogra | can you do: grep tftp /etc/inetd.conf ? | 07:42 |
| ogra | tftp dgram udp wait root /usr/sbin/in.tftpd /usr/sbin/in.tftpd -s /var/lib/tftpboot -v | 07:43 |
| ogra | thats what should come out | 07:43 |
| roy | there is no -v | 07:44 |
| ogra | thats only for logging ... | 07:44 |
| ogra | important is that the former stuff is identical | 07:44 |
| roy | otherwise it is exactly the same | 07:45 |
| ogra | ok | 07:45 |
| ogra | ps ax|grep inetd | 07:45 |
| ogra | (should give you a running inetd process) | 07:45 |
| roy | It's only 2 lines can I paste that | 07:46 |
| ogra | sure | 07:46 |
| roy | 4984 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/inetd | 07:47 |
| roy | 8100 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep inetd | 07:47 |
| ogra | just not complete files ;) | 07:47 |
| ogra | thats fine as well | 07:47 |
| ogra | can you do the same for dhcpd ? | 07:47 |
| roy | 5699 ? Ss 0:00 /usr/sbin/dhcpd3 -q -pf /var/run/dhcp3-server/dhcpd.pid -cf /etc/ltsp/dhcpd.conf | 07:49 |
| roy | 8154 pts/0 S+ 0:00 grep dhcpd | 07:49 |
| ogra | hmm, looks fine as well | 07:50 |
| ogra | i wonder why it doesnt get the kernel then | 07:50 |
| ogra | (and why it looks for the wrong name) | 07:51 |
| ogra | you are sure youre not having any other dhcp server running in the net ? | 07:51 |
| roy | Oh my God - sorry. I just hit myself in the head. I forgot about that. I'll turn it off now. | 07:54 |
| ogra | heh | 07:54 |
| ogra | the two most common probs: running ltspadmin in edubuntu, having a running dhcpd anywhere else in the net | 07:55 |
| ogra | i should chnage my habit of asking ;) | 07:55 |
| ogra | and put these two always first | 07:55 |
| roy | I actually discovered that issue a couple of months ago and I already forgot. Old age. Sorry | 07:57 |
| roy | It is still going throught each one very slowly "Trying to load pxelinux.cfg/*" Do i need to modify something or stop and start dhcp | 08:01 |
| ogra | hmm, normally it should just work | 08:03 |
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| roy | ogra: IS there anything that could have affected a .conf setting with the firewall dhcp originally on? | 08:17 |
| ogra | firewall ? | 08:17 |
| roy | Sorry my secondary name came up | 08:17 |
| roy | I'm steelballz | 08:18 |
| ogra | yes | 08:18 |
| ogra | i grokked that | 08:18 |
| roy | huh? | 08:19 |
| ogra | if you only have the edubuntu dhcp running, the clients should cleanly boot | 08:19 |
| roy | any other ideas? | 08:21 |
| ogra | not really ... you dhcpd seems to be configured right and your tftpd as well ... | 08:24 |
| roy | Is there anything I can run on the server to monitor the proccess | 08:24 |
| ogra | ps/top ... | 08:24 |
| ogra | or the gnome-system-monitor ... | 08:24 |
| ogra | the ip of the interface your thin clients are connected to matches the dhcp server range you configured ? | 08:25 |
| roy | I didn't modify the file I just configued my nic at 192.168.0.254 and the client is getting an IP address of 192.168.0.250 | 08:27 |
| ogra | dont configure it between 192.168.0.20 and 192.168.0.250 ... take 192.168.0.10 for example ... | 08:28 |
| ogra | the server shouldnt have an ip in the dynamic range ... | 08:28 |
| ogra | but still thats not the cause of your problem | 08:29 |
| ogra | the clients are dfinately PXE clients ? | 08:29 |
| roy | The server is at 192.168.0.254 and the client is a comaq workstation with a Intel nic which has worked on all other distro's | 08:31 |
| roy | Is there any other info you would like to know that comes up when the client boots? | 08:32 |
| ogra | nope | 08:32 |
| ogra | put the server to 192.168.0.10 | 08:32 |
| roy | ok | 08:33 |
| ogra | that it worked on other distros doesnt mean it uses PXE | 08:33 |
| ogra | do you see PXE messages on the screen on boot | 08:33 |
| roy | Yes i do. For some reason after I changed the server IP the client came up still trying to connect to 192.168.0.254 | 08:36 |
| ogra | always restart the dhcpd afetr changing the ip | 08:37 |
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| roy | What is the command line for dhcp restart | 08:38 |
| ogra | sudo /etc/init.d/dhcp3-server restart | 08:39 |
| roy | after restarting dhcp it still fails | 08:45 |
| ogra | it still gets the wrong server ip ?? | 08:46 |
| roy | no it now says 192.168.0.10 | 08:47 |
| ogra | still the same error ? | 08:48 |
| roy | the same "trying to load..." | 08:48 |
| roy | Would you like to remote on the box or am i asking to much | 08:49 |
| ogra | not now, i have to pack my bags, flying at 6am tomorrow ... | 08:51 |
| ogra | but its very strange | 08:51 |
| roy | I appreciate the effort today | 08:51 |
| ogra | seems all is configured right on your box | 08:51 |
| ogra | it should work... and i cant imagine why it wouldnt | 08:51 |
| ogra | can you look in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ and confirm there is the -i386 kernel ? | 08:52 |
| roy | Since you will be gone a while is there any thing I can read | 08:52 |
| ogra | i wont be gone a while := | 08:52 |
| ogra | i'll be here tomorrow again | 08:52 |
| roy | ok : ) | 08:53 |
| ogra | please check that you really have the i386 image in the tftp directory... thats the only thing i could imagine that might be wrong... we did chaeck everything else | 08:54 |
| roy | initrd.img-2.6.15-13-386 and vmlinuz-2.6.15-13-386 | 08:54 |
| ogra | looks ok | 08:54 |
| roy | amd64 is also there | 08:55 |
| ogra | where do the links point to ? | 08:55 |
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| ogra | (vmlinuz and initrd.img) | 08:55 |
| roy | your testing my linux skills. I forgot how to command line to determine that | 08:57 |
| ogra | ls -l | 08:57 |
| roy | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 24 2006-01-28 10:50 initrd.img -> initrd.img-2.6.15-13-386 | 08:58 |
| roy | lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 21 2006-01-28 10:50 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-2.6.15-13-386 | 08:58 |
| ogra | looks fine | 08:58 |
| roy | i must be doing something stupid | 08:58 |
| ogra | its dapper .... | 08:59 |
| roy | I could never get this to work in amd64 but it always has worked fine if I installi386 | 09:00 |
| ogra | it might be a breakage anywhere else ... | 09:00 |
| ogra | hmm | 09:02 |
| ogra | lets try something else | 09:02 |
| ogra | do the following: | 09:03 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get install syslinux | 09:03 |
| ogra | sudo cp /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ | 09:04 |
| ogra | then try again | 09:04 |
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| roy | Failed to fetch file:///cdrom/pool/main/s/syslinux/syslinux_3.11-3ubuntu1_i386.deb File not found | 09:05 |
| roy | nevermind | 09:05 |
| ogra | oh | 09:05 |
| ogra | sudo cp /etc/apt/sources.list /opt/ltsp/i386/etc/apt/ | 09:05 |
| ogra | sudo chroot /opt/ltsp/i386/ apt-get update | 09:06 |
| ogra | then run the above again | 09:06 |
| roy | Get:1 http://us.archive.ubuntu.com dapper/main syslinux 3.11-3ubuntu1 [208kB] | 09:08 |
| roy | Fetched 208kB in 1s (195kB/s) | 09:08 |
| roy | perl: warning: Setting locale failed. | 09:08 |
| ogra | thats ok | 09:09 |
| ogra | now copy the pxelinux binary over | 09:09 |
| ogra | and try to boot again | 09:09 |
| ogra | (the client) | 09:09 |
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| roy | When I ran the install syslinux It didn't look like it ran successfully at all | 09:10 |
| ogra | look if the pxelinux file is there | 09:11 |
| roy | you mean in /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp$ | 09:12 |
| ogra | sudo cp /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0 /var/lib/tftpboot/ltsp/ | 09:12 |
| ogra | i mean the /opt/ltsp/i386/usr/lib/syslinux/pxelinux.0 file | 09:12 |
| roy | I see it | 09:13 |
| roy | I'm rebooting the client | 09:13 |
| ogra | could you copy the file ? | 09:13 |
| ogra | (was it there ? ) | 09:13 |
| roy | It didn't give an error when I ran your command line so I assume it did | 09:14 |
| ogra | or did cp give an "file not found" error | 09:14 |
| ogra | ah, great | 09:14 |
| ogra | lets see then | 09:14 |
| roy | same results | 09:14 |
| roy | Do I have to wait until it gets to that file? | 09:15 |
| ogra | sure, it should load the pxelinux.cfg and then load the kernel ... | 09:15 |
| roy | it's still on pxelinux.cfg/CAO800 | 09:16 |
| ogra | hmm | 09:17 |
| roy | and it goes very very slow | 09:17 |
| ogra | that looks rather like a network problem to me ... | 09:18 |
| ogra | "it loads but is slow" at least indicates that the server serves | 09:18 |
| roy | you are very patient | 09:21 |
| roy | it's on pxelinux.cfg/default and nothing is happening | 09:22 |
| roy | I'm going to try another client just for snicks | 09:22 |
| ogra | yup | 09:23 |
| roy | Back in a minute | 09:23 |
| ogra | it really sounds like a network prob rather than a server prob | 09:23 |
| roy | I tried another client and it fails the same. I have run Centos-ltsp and FC4-ltsp with no trouble on the same setup | 09:28 |
| ogra | they are completely different implementations | 09:28 |
| roy | Should I try connecting to the server directly with a crossover cable? | 09:29 |
| ogra | yes, that'd be good, so you can exclude all possible network probs | 09:30 |
| roy | direct give me the exact same results | 09:39 |
| roy | I have an idea | 09:43 |
| roy | Will the i386 dapper live cd work | 09:43 |
| roy | you know just to prove thing out | 09:44 |
| ogra | hmm, yers, but you need to set up everything manually | 09:59 |
| roy | It was a thought | 10:00 |
| roy | Or I could just install the i386 dapper to confirm my sanity | 10:01 |
| ogra | you casn use the liveCD and follow the ThinClientHowto on the wiki | 10:01 |
| ogra | should work ... | 10:02 |
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| roy | ok i'll give a shot | 10:06 |
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| smykes | hey guys what grading software is included in Edubuntu? | 11:22 |
| signifer123 | don'th tihnk there one for gradin | 11:26 |
| signifer123 | there calss management | 11:26 |
| signifer123 | class* | 11:26 |
| signifer123 | you'd have otsee if the others got on | 11:26 |
| smykes | is it Ggradebook? | 11:26 |
| signifer123 | don' t think we have that | 11:26 |
| signifer123 | thats a no on 5.10 dubuntu | 11:27 |
| signifer123 | edubuntu* | 11:27 |
| smykes | any suggestions? | 11:27 |
| smykes | perhaps a linux website aimed at teachers | 11:28 |
| signifer123 | i tihk you guys should include that though...at least in repository | 11:28 |
| signifer123 | think* | 11:28 |
| signifer123 | sorry i have none | 11:28 |
| signifer123 | you can install ggradebook if you want | 11:28 |
| smykes | yeah I know :) | 11:28 |
| smykes | I wasnt sure if there was something better | 11:29 |
| signifer123 | nah... | 11:29 |
| signifer123 | how good is it? | 11:29 |
| signifer123 | really bad? | 11:29 |
| smykes | I haven't used it yet | 11:29 |
| signifer123 | ohhh | 11:30 |
| signifer123 | well then i'll ahve to lok at it myself :-p | 11:30 |
| smykes | im not on a linux box right now so I can't | 11:30 |
| signifer123 | ok | 11:31 |
| signifer123 | well how long you gonna be on i cna give you screenies once i get it installed | 11:31 |
| smykes | I saw one screen shot | 11:31 |
| signifer123 | ohh | 11:32 |
| signifer123 | where? | 11:32 |
| smykes | at the site | 11:32 |
| signifer123 | yeah i jsut found it | 11:32 |
| smykes | the site leaves something to be desired | 11:33 |
| signifer123 | yeah .... | 11:33 |
| smykes | OpenGrade seems like another one | 11:35 |
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| signifer123 | they both look really ugly | 11:35 |
| smykes | but this sounds bad | 11:35 |
| smykes | "If you're running a recent Linux distribution such as Suse 10 or Ubuntu "Breezy Badger," you will find that whenever you run a GTK+ application alongside of OpenGrade, it will cause OpenGrade to crash. I've submitted a patch to Perl/Tk to fix the problem, and if the patch is approved by Nick Ing-Simmons, I'm hoping that the problem will be fixed in Perl/Tk 804.029. OpenGrade 2.7.8 will detect this problem, if present, and refuse to ru | 11:35 |
| Burgundavia | doesn't schooltool do grading? | 11:36 |
| signifer123 | does it? | 11:36 |
| Burgundavia | no idea, never used it | 11:36 |
| signifer123 | yeah that does look bad... | 11:36 |
| jinty | Burgundavia: the code is being written right now... | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | jinty, ah | 11:37 |
| signifer123 | for school tool? | 11:37 |
| Burgundavia | jinty, do you work on schooltool? | 11:37 |
| jinty | kindof | 11:37 |
| jinty | but gotta go real soon | 11:37 |
| signifer123 | yeah i don't like the interface for ggradebook | 11:38 |
| signifer123 | too in yuor face | 11:39 |
| smykes | ah my school already uses SchoolTool Calendar I think | 11:40 |
| signifer123 | :-p | 11:41 |
| signifer123 | mine will never switch :( | 11:41 |
| smykes | Master Grade looks good but its expensive | 11:42 |
| signifer123 | and there no linux version :-p | 11:43 |
| smykes | yeah :/ | 11:43 |
| smykes | I use OS X at home though | 11:43 |
| signifer123 | :-p | 11:43 |
| signifer123 | ohh | 11:43 |
| smykes | it seems as though Ggradebook isnt under development anymore | 11:46 |
| signifer123 | ohhh.... | 11:46 |
| signifer123 | are there any java gradebooks? | 11:47 |
| smykes | I hope not ;) | 11:48 |
| signifer123 | why? | 11:48 |
| smykes | because its java | 11:49 |
| signifer123 | *gasp* | 11:49 |
| signifer123 | this ins't that whole interpretted thing is it? | 11:49 |
| signifer123 | i like java :-p | 11:50 |
| smykes | no its the whole slow and ugly thing | 11:50 |
| signifer123 | that would be the intterpreted thing :-P | 11:51 |
| signifer123 | sorry for not being specific | 11:51 |
| signifer123 | so you don't like python or ruby either? | 11:51 |
| smykes | I wish I could find a grant to get myself a tablet for my classroom | 11:52 |
| signifer123 | lol | 11:52 |
| smykes | that would be so handy | 11:52 |
| signifer123 | with projector :) | 11:52 |
| signifer123 | get the convertable ones | 11:53 |
| smykes | oh god yes | 11:53 |
| smykes | we have a projector in the school | 11:53 |
| signifer123 | The AT&T Foundation provides grants to educational programs that use technology to enhance teaching and learning. | 11:53 |
| signifer123 | :-p | 11:53 |
| smykes | think they'll buy me a X41? :D | 11:54 |
| signifer123 | lol | 11:54 |
| signifer123 | yuo wish!!! | 11:54 |
| signifer123 | you* | 11:55 |
| smykes | Id use it for teaching it would be great | 11:55 |
| signifer123 | our teacher got a free trip to japan for using touchscreens that all the students could interact with in his calc calss | 11:55 |
| signifer123 | class* | 11:55 |
| smykes | wtf | 11:55 |
| smykes | Id love a classroom full of macminis | 11:55 |
| smykes | but apple doesnt do that unless you pay ;) | 11:56 |
| signifer123 | of course... | 11:56 |
| smykes | they dont have grants I mean | 11:56 |
| signifer123 | i know what you mean ;) | 11:56 |
| signifer123 | my schools a bit spoiled we got all new 28 ghz dells last year | 11:57 |
| signifer123 | 2.8 | 11:57 |
| signifer123 | not 28 | 11:57 |
| signifer123 | that'd be crazy | 11:57 |
| smykes | we dont do dell we do a small little maker in town | 11:58 |
| smykes | im not sure why | 11:58 |
| smykes | I try to stay out of it | 11:58 |
| signifer123 | good idea :-p | 11:58 |
| signifer123 | windows? | 11:59 |
| signifer123 | or linny? | 11:59 |
| signifer123 | or what? | 11:59 |
| smykes | they were upset enough when I put ubuntu on one of the "good" machines | 11:59 |
| smykes | they are working on a linux lab | 11:59 |
| smykes | but we do run a lot of OSS | 12:00 |
| signifer123 | lol | 12:00 |
| signifer123 | linux lab will be all the ones they threw out right? | 12:01 |
| smykes | pretty much | 12:01 |
| signifer123 | yeah thats what i figured... | 12:01 |
| smykes | they are actually looking to go with dumb clients | 12:01 |
| smykes | I dont know that the bandwidth is available for it but I try to stay out of it | 12:01 |
| signifer123 | hehehe i wish my school would use dumb clients | 12:02 |
| signifer123 | nvm changed my mind | 12:02 |
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