| Tm_T | any of you have idea about font packages? | 12:15 |
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| crimsun | what sort? | 12:16 |
| Tm_T | hum, I might provide two or three font packages for ubuntu | 12:16 |
| crimsun | your own? | 12:17 |
| Tm_T | nope, xfonts-base-transcoded and 100dpi and 75dpi | 12:18 |
| Tm_T | both are not in breezy nor dapper atm | 12:18 |
| crimsun | you'll want to ask Daniel [Stone] why they're not | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | ok | 12:19 |
| crimsun | I doubt he omitted them randomly | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | 22:08 #ubuntu-devel: < siretart> Tm_T: filing a bug is a good idea in any case | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | 23:19 #ubuntu-devel: < siretart> Tm_T: yes. or even better, provide a package ;) | 12:19 |
| Tm_T | I think they're dropped out because if your system is using utf-8 locales, you don't need them | 12:20 |
| Tm_T | and somebody is expecting we are do so | 12:20 |
| crimsun | that's essentially my thinking | 12:20 |
| Tm_T | but I (and tons of other people) does have ISO-8859-15 locales etc | 12:21 |
| Tm_T | but sure, I'll ask :) | 12:21 |
| Tm_T | but in the meantime, I (we) need packages | 12:21 |
| Tm_T | so, should I just take debian package and change location where fonts are installed to ubuntu way, or? | 12:22 |
| Tm_T | I just installed newest packages I found from debian mirrors and then copied files to right place | 12:22 |
| Tm_T | hum, maybe daniel can tell what I need to know ;( | 12:24 |
| crimsun | yep, at the very least you'll need to change the installation path | 12:28 |
| Tm_T | aye | 12:30 |
| Tm_T | I'll catch up daniel tomorrow then | 12:30 |
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| LeeJunFan | Riddell: did something change in latest kde so that removing kubuntu-defaults and copying konqueror.rc no longer give back full functionality? | 06:12 |
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| Hobbsee | hi everyone | 09:17 |
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| mornfall | lalala | 12:33 |
| mornfall | i should mail mdz | 12:33 |
| Verwilst | hello! | 12:34 |
| === Verwilst just downloaded flight 3 to reinstall his breezy desktop ;) | ||
| Hobbsee | er...ok then! | 12:37 |
| Hobbsee | to reinstall breezy? | 12:37 |
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| Verwilst | my currently-breezy desktop into dapper ;) | 12:56 |
| Verwilst | i'm running 5 production servers on dapper now, so i think it's fit for my desktop too ;) | 12:57 |
| Hobbsee | ah, right, so you're taking off breezy, and sticking dapper on there, yes, right, that makes sense now | 01:00 |
| Hobbsee | i was wondering how you planned to install breezy from a dapper cd! | 01:00 |
| Verwilst | hehe | 01:07 |
| === Verwilst wishes kdevelop had mono support | ||
| Verwilst | mornfall: how's the kde update-notifier coming? ;) | 01:25 |
| mornfall | Verwilst: it's sitting in my systray | 01:26 |
| mornfall | Verwilst: it's in dapper for ages now .p | 01:26 |
| Verwilst | screeniiiiieeee | 01:26 |
| Verwilst | oh | 01:26 |
| Verwilst | what's it called? :) | 01:26 |
| mornfall | adept-notifier | 01:27 |
| Verwilst | but not installed by default i guess? | 01:27 |
| mornfall | it is, just nothing to run it automatically | 01:27 |
| mornfall | well, it is part of adept package | 01:27 |
| Verwilst | ah | 01:27 |
| mornfall | at least i hope so :) | 01:27 |
| Hobbsee | hey, cool! it works! | 01:34 |
| Hobbsee | it's installed by default, yes | 01:35 |
| Verwilst | screeenshoooot | 01:35 |
| Verwilst | :p | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | from me? | 01:35 |
| Verwilst | sure | 01:35 |
| Hobbsee | um | 01:36 |
| Hobbsee | well....seeing as it doesnt seem to *update* the apt-get list, then of course there's nothing to upgrade | 01:36 |
| JRe | mornfall: tough, I have errors with adept when I try to fetch updates | 01:38 |
| mornfall | JRe: current dapper? | 01:38 |
| JRe | mornfall: yep | 01:39 |
| mornfall | there should be a new version | 01:39 |
| Hobbsee | testing it out, after a manual sudo apt-get update... | 01:39 |
| JRe | mornfall: the one I have is 1.89ubuntu3 | 01:40 |
| Verwilst | it's the last one according to packages.ubuntu.com | 01:42 |
| Hobbsee | Adept Updater: 1.88.1 Wibble (alpha 1.5) is my current one | 01:42 |
| Verwilst | well, here goes my install! see ya in a bit! | 01:45 |
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| robotgeek_work | Hobbsee: ping | 02:28 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek_work: pong | 02:28 |
| robotgeek_work | Hobbsee: i'm working on the Kubuntu Desktop guide, and i need to know if there are going to be Kubuntu Shipits | 02:29 |
| Hobbsee | Riddell: ping | 02:29 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: pong | 02:30 |
| Riddell | robotgeek_work: assume yes | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek_work: I think they planned on it, but Riddell would be the one to answer that | 02:30 |
| === Hobbsee waves to Riddell - i'm finally back! | ||
| Riddell | might have a better idea this time next week | 02:30 |
| Riddell | Hobbsee: yay! we missed you | 02:30 |
| Hobbsee | :) | 02:30 |
| robotgeek_work | thanks Riddell , i'm currently just hacking the Ubuntu Desktop Guide, and that's good news. I just have to search replace this section :) | 02:31 |
| === Hobbsee missed everyone here too - was stuck with very horrible, patchy 30kbps dialup internet! | ||
| Hobbsee | and even that only a couple of times | 02:31 |
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| robotgeek_work | hmm, i never know Kubuntu means "towards humanity" in Bemba. More changes, tsk tsk | 02:36 |
| robotgeek_work | one more for you Hobbsee . Kubuntu started with Hoary? or earlier/later? | 02:43 |
| Hobbsee | *thinks* | 02:44 |
| Hobbsee | robotgeek_work: ah, hoary | 02:44 |
| robotgeek_work | Hobbsee: thanks :) | 02:44 |
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| Hobbsee | no problems | 02:44 |
| Riddell | yes, hoary | 02:51 |
| robotgeek_work | Riddell: i guess i'll have some nice work done by next week | 02:52 |
| Riddell | robotgeek_work: excellent | 02:58 |
| robotgeek_work | i'm editing the common sections right now, the main work will start from now on. | 02:59 |
| === Hobbsee looks forward to an up-to-date guide | ||
| robotgeek_work | i have kubuntu dapper running on my ibook, i hope by the time I get to system settings, the modules bug will be fixed :) | 03:05 |
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| Verwilst | grmbl | 03:06 |
| Verwilst | kde is still ugly by default :( | 03:06 |
| Hobbsee | it is, rather | 03:07 |
| Verwilst | hopefully 4.0 will fix that :$ | 03:07 |
| Verwilst | mornfall: would be cool if adept-notifier would disappear when no updates are needed | 03:18 |
| mornfall | Verwilst: why | 03:20 |
| Hobbsee | mornfall: when did 1.89 of adept-notifier go into the repos? for some reason, I only have Adept Updater: 1.88.1 Wibble (alpha 1.5), and i just did an update&upgrade | 03:22 |
| Verwilst | mornfall: too many icons in the systray already :( | 03:24 |
| Verwilst | it'll be like windows after a while, a bigger systray than taskbar :p | 03:24 |
| === Hobbsee agrees with Verwilst about the icon - that's the first thing i noticed about it | ||
| mornfall | Hobbsee: 1.89 is a versioning mistake | 03:27 |
| Hobbsee | right | 03:27 |
| mornfall | there are 5 icons in my systray | 03:28 |
| mornfall | out of which at least 2 are useless | 03:28 |
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| robotgeek_work | i'm hopfully not 8 secs away from breakage, lol | 03:31 |
| Verwilst | btw, by reinstalling i removed my sources.list :( | 03:33 |
| Verwilst | anybody has that w32codecs repo laying around? | 03:33 |
| Verwilst | it wasn't plf btw | 03:33 |
| robotgeek_work | Verwilst: marillat? | 03:33 |
| Verwilst | no | 03:34 |
| Hobbsee | Verwilst: ah, wasnt that in http://tinyurl.com/e4a5s | 03:38 |
| Hobbsee | or is that now out of date? | 03:38 |
| Verwilst | oh well, they'll do for now | 03:40 |
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| Flosoft | hey | 05:38 |
| Flosoft | anyone already using PSI 0.10 with Jingle? | 05:38 |
| Flosoft | Riddell: Is there anyone here that could make a PSI Jingle release like those of Amarok? | 05:56 |
| Riddell | Flosoft: PSI? | 05:59 |
| Flosoft | a Jabber client | 05:59 |
| Flosoft | http://psi-im.org/wiki/Jingle_branch#Linux | 05:59 |
| Flosoft | the first with Jingle Implementation | 06:00 |
| Riddell | and you want what? | 06:00 |
| Flosoft | an .deb or an apt-source ... as mine fails to compile :S | 06:00 |
| Flosoft | PSI is already in the sources | 06:00 |
| Flosoft | but it is an old one | 06:01 |
| Riddell | how is that like amarok? | 06:01 |
| Flosoft | and the normal 0.10 (just released) does not contain Jingle | 06:01 |
| Flosoft | amarok is always up2date with additional sources ? ( kubuntu.org ) | 06:01 |
| Riddell | ah, a backport | 06:02 |
| Riddell | i jingle support in dapper? | 06:02 |
| Flosoft | no | 06:02 |
| Riddell | so that's needed first | 06:02 |
| Riddell | ask in #ubuntu-motu | 06:03 |
| Flosoft | jingle isn't in PSIs official release | 06:03 |
| Riddell | hmm, psi is qt, that's our domain | 06:03 |
| Flosoft | :) | 06:03 |
| Riddell | raphink, \sh_away maybe? | 06:04 |
| raphink | Riddell: what? | 06:04 |
| raphink | Riddell: you want us to backport amarok to breezy? | 06:04 |
| Flosoft | no | 06:05 |
| Flosoft | make a PSI with Jingle backport | 06:05 |
| raphink | Riddell: why did you call me? | 06:05 |
| raphink | hmm ok | 06:05 |
| raphink | it's in dapper already I suppose? | 06:05 |
| Flosoft | note: PSI with Jingle isn't in PSIs official branch | 06:05 |
| Flosoft | http://psi-im.org/wiki/Jingle_branch | 06:05 |
| raphink | I cna't seem to find it in dapper | 06:06 |
| Flosoft | and it would be great to have it in Synaptic or as deb | 06:06 |
| Flosoft | in Breezy there is 0.93 | 06:06 |
| Riddell | psi is in universe | 06:06 |
| raphink | Flosoft: can you package? | 06:07 |
| raphink | I can find psi Riddell | 06:07 |
| raphink | but not jingle | 06:07 |
| Flosoft | raphink: no :S | 06:07 |
| raphink | apt-cache search jingle | 06:07 |
| raphink | I get nothing | 06:07 |
| raphink | in dapper | 06:07 |
| raphink | what's the name of the package for the jingle branch? | 06:07 |
| Flosoft | psi too | 06:07 |
| Flosoft | there is no package | 06:07 |
| raphink | so you would like a package, that's it? | 06:08 |
| raphink | you want a psi-jingle package? | 06:08 |
| Flosoft | yes | 06:08 |
| raphink | that seems easy | 06:08 |
| raphink | just package it ;) | 06:08 |
| raphink | hehe | 06:08 |
| raphink | Flosoft: how much do you know about Debian GNU/Linux ? | 06:08 |
| Flosoft | not soo much | 06:09 |
| Flosoft | a happy linux user | 06:09 |
| raphink | haha ok ;) | 06:09 |
| raphink | well I guess we could package it | 06:09 |
| raphink | but it would be nicer if you did it :) | 06:09 |
| raphink | so you would learn to package | 06:09 |
| raphink | and as this is a package you care about it's nice | 06:10 |
| raphink | :) | 06:10 |
| raphink | Flosoft: what do you think? | 06:10 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:10 |
| Flosoft | only problem: I didn't get to install psi manually :S | 06:10 |
| Flosoft | u know .. compile etc. | 06:11 |
| raphink | ah! | 06:11 |
| raphink | what failed? | 06:11 |
| Flosoft | make afaik | 06:11 |
| Flosoft | it was some time ago | 06:11 |
| raphink | ok | 06:11 |
| Flosoft | otherwise ... if u want to see I can open a screen here | 06:11 |
| raphink | no that's fine | 06:12 |
| raphink | I'd be happy if you could package it | 06:12 |
| Flosoft | ok ... | 06:12 |
| raphink | otherwise I can add it to my list of softs to package ;) | 06:12 |
| Flosoft | one sec ... | 06:12 |
| Flosoft | if u can guide me through I can try it again | 06:13 |
| raphink | do you want some links to documents to learn how to package? ;) | 06:13 |
| Flosoft | sure | 06:13 |
| kkathman | raphink: I'd like those please | 06:13 |
| raphink | kkathman: <>< | 06:13 |
| raphink | kkathman: you'd like what? | 06:13 |
| kkathman | the links to package...Im going to be helping robotgeek | 06:13 |
| raphink | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingTips | 06:14 |
| raphink | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReviewingGuide once you know quite enough | 06:14 |
| raphink | the main link to learn to package is the Debian New Maintainer's GUide | 06:14 |
| raphink | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/index.en.html | 06:15 |
| raphink | that is THE reference to learn Debian packaging :) | 06:15 |
| raphink | and at least throwing an eye on Debian policy : http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ | 06:15 |
| raphink | :) | 06:15 |
| kkathman | thanks | 06:15 |
| Flosoft | what about deb-install? | 06:16 |
| kkathman | do I need to be on dapper NOW to create debian packages, or can I still be on breezy? | 06:16 |
| raphink | Flosoft: no | 06:16 |
| raphink | Flosoft: packaging is an advanced feature | 06:16 |
| raphink | it's hand-made | 06:16 |
| raphink | you can use debinstall, checkinstall or whatever for your own packages if you want | 06:17 |
| raphink | but if you want your packages in Ubuntu | 06:17 |
| raphink | there won't be 10 seconds before any MOTU will refuse such a package | 06:17 |
| raphink | kkathman: you can still be on breezy and use a dapper pbuilder and chroot | 06:17 |
| raphink | to build and test the packages | 06:17 |
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| raphink | Flosoft: using dh_make is fine to help building packages | 06:18 |
| raphink | but debinstall/checkinstall is not | 06:18 |
| raphink | you'll get much more work to do by using such things than by making the packages yourself | 06:18 |
| kkathman | I assume that the above documents will explain the install procedures | 06:19 |
| raphink | Flosoft: make me a Checkinstall GNU/Linux distro if you want to, I'm sure it won't even boot ;) | 06:19 |
| raphink | kkathman: yes | 06:19 |
| kkathman | raphink: I still have room to install dapper if it would be best | 06:20 |
| raphink | for many apps, it is fine to use cdbs aswell (to some extent) which makes packaging easier | 06:20 |
| kkathman | I have breezy and SUSE on my box, but plenty of room for dapper if need be | 06:20 |
| raphink | get a chroot and pbuilder | 06:20 |
| kkathman | raphink: I'll read those docs and they should direct me in those right? | 06:21 |
| raphink | they won't teach you about chroots and pbuilders | 06:21 |
| raphink | but you'll need them only later | 06:22 |
| raphink | learn about packaging first ;) | 06:22 |
| raphink | and don't hesitate to ask questions :) | 06:22 |
| raphink | when I learned packaging, my mentor took 8 hours in a row to guide me through my first package | 06:22 |
| kkathman | okies...Im sure robotgeek will guide me along | 06:22 |
| raphink | so don't bother to ask for some help | 06:22 |
| raphink | :) | 06:22 |
| Flosoft | well ... u'll be flooded with questions and pastebins ... don't worry raphink ;) | 06:22 |
| kkathman | raphink: I was starting to work with Hobbsee but she left on vacation and there was no way we'd finish before she left, so we postponed | 06:23 |
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| raphink | Flosoft: I prefer to be flooded with questions and pastebins and increase the number of Debian packagers with good skills | 06:23 |
| kkathman | but robotgeek basically said he needed my help and I agreed | 06:23 |
| raphink | than to make the packages myself and not be sure there'll be anyone to maintain them | 06:23 |
| Flosoft | :) | 06:23 |
| Flosoft | at the same time i'll write a tutorial for noobs ;) | 06:23 |
| raphink | Flosoft: so if you feel like learning how to package, don't hesitate to ping me either ;) | 06:23 |
| raphink | Flosoft: there is a tutorial : NDMG ;) | 06:24 |
| raphink | and some guys are working on an Ubuntu packaging guide | 06:24 |
| Flosoft | tooo much pages ;) | 06:24 |
| kkathman | NDMG? | 06:24 |
| raphink | Laserjock | 06:24 |
| raphink | New Debian Maintainer's Guide | 06:24 |
| raphink | the link I gave you before | 06:24 |
| Flosoft | http://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/maint-guide/ch-first.en.html ? | 06:24 |
| raphink | Flosoft: I doubt you can write a packaging guide for noobs soon | 06:24 |
| raphink | yes Flosoft | 06:24 |
| Flosoft | there is a problem ... PSI is in the repository :S | 06:25 |
| raphink | this is the current reference to learn how to package | 06:25 |
| Flosoft | so how do I call it PSI-Jingle? | 06:25 |
| raphink | Flosoft: what you want to package is psi-jingle | 06:25 |
| raphink | not psi | 06:25 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:25 |
| Flosoft | but it runs on the same programm :S | 06:25 |
| raphink | so what? | 06:25 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:26 |
| Flosoft | ok ... | 06:26 |
| raphink | you might have to set the dependencies of the package | 06:26 |
| raphink | saying psi-jingle replaces psi | 06:26 |
| raphink | so the psi package is deinstalled when psi-jingle is installed | 06:27 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:27 |
| Flosoft | :S | 06:27 |
| Flosoft | i'll see | 06:27 |
| raphink | yes | 06:27 |
| raphink | :) | 06:27 |
| Flosoft | I am currently @ 2.2 | 06:27 |
| raphink | I'll be happy to help you :) | 06:27 |
| raphink | check if psi-jingle is not in Debian first | 06:28 |
| Flosoft | how? | 06:28 |
| raphink | it doesn't seem to be | 06:28 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:28 |
| raphink | well right now it's not easy to check | 06:28 |
| raphink | usually you can check on packages.debian.org | 06:28 |
| kkathman | ok Im off to read...thanks raphink :) I'll still be around, but probably reading. | 06:28 |
| raphink | but the website is currenty down | 06:29 |
| raphink | kkathman: ok :) | 06:29 |
| raphink | if you have questions just ask :) | 06:29 |
| Flosoft | dh_make -e your.maintainer@address -f ../gentoo-0.9.12.tar.gz .... is that from the directory the sources are unpacked? | 06:29 |
| Flosoft | same as there is configure etc.? | 06:29 |
| raphink | yep | 06:30 |
| raphink | that's to package gentoo of course ;) | 06:30 |
| Flosoft | ofcourse ;) | 06:30 |
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| Flosoft | http://kubuntu.pastebin.com/527555 ... correct? | 06:32 |
| raphink | no | 06:32 |
| raphink | Flosoft: you have to link to the tarball | 06:32 |
| raphink | that is int he parent dir | 06:32 |
| Flosoft | well there is non :S | 06:33 |
| Flosoft | it is a darcs source :S | 06:33 |
| raphink | how did you get the source then? | 06:33 |
| Flosoft | darcs | 06:33 |
| raphink | what is that? | 06:33 |
| Flosoft | well like a FTP download of all files | 06:33 |
| Flosoft | http://psi-im.org/wiki/Darcs_Instructions | 06:33 |
| raphink | there is no tarball for this? | 06:34 |
| raphink | it's like a CVS/SVN ? | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | no | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | yes | 06:34 |
| raphink | ok then ignore the -f option | 06:34 |
| raphink | just run dh_make -e youradress | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:34 |
| raphink | do you have a PGP/GnuPG key ? | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | and still ../psi-jingle | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | yes | 06:34 |
| Flosoft | afaik | 06:34 |
| raphink | no, not the ../ | 06:34 |
| raphink | because this goes witht he -f option | 06:35 |
| raphink | to link to the source tarball | 06:35 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:35 |
| raphink | since you have no source tarball | 06:35 |
| raphink | you shall not use it | 06:35 |
| raphink | you might call the directory | 06:35 |
| raphink | psi-jingle-darcs | 06:35 |
| raphink | if you got the version today | 06:35 |
| raphink | call the directory | 06:35 |
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| raphink | psi-jingle-darcs-20060128 | 06:36 |
| raphink | and then run | 06:36 |
| raphink | dh_make -e youraddress | 06:36 |
| raphink | so the name of the package will be psi-jingle-darcs | 06:36 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:36 |
| raphink | since it's not a tarball version, but a darcs one | 06:36 |
| raphink | and the version number will be 20060128, ie the date | 06:36 |
| raphink | which fits for this kind of packaging | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | and again ... dh_make from inside psi-jingle-darcs-20060128# | 06:37 |
| raphink | yes | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:37 |
| raphink | and only with the -e youraddress@yourdomain | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | sure | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | and what about my pgp key? | 06:37 |
| raphink | using an address that is in your PGP key | 06:37 |
| raphink | since it will be used to sign the package | 06:37 |
| raphink | is your key in the strongset? | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:37 |
| Flosoft | :S | 06:37 |
| raphink | what's your key ID? | 06:38 |
| Flosoft | I trust it unlimited | 06:38 |
| raphink | what's your key ID Flosoft ? | 06:38 |
| raphink | Flosoft: gpg --list-keys | 06:38 |
| Flosoft | 0xDE942B63 | 06:39 |
| raphink | and give me your key id please :) | 06:39 |
| raphink | ok you never uploaded it | 06:39 |
| raphink | or got it signed by anyone? | 06:39 |
| Flosoft | i'll do it now then ... | 06:40 |
| raphink | no no that's fine Flosoft | 06:40 |
| raphink | ;) | 06:40 |
| raphink | you don't need it signed now | 06:40 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:40 |
| raphink | but you need it uploaded to the servers | 06:40 |
| raphink | like mit.edu | 06:40 |
| raphink | that can be useful ;) | 06:40 |
| raphink | anyway, your key will be used to sign the package | 06:41 |
| raphink | so you have to use an email address that is registered on the key | 06:41 |
| Flosoft | ok | 06:41 |
| Flosoft | single binary? | 06:41 |
| raphink | yep | 06:41 |
| raphink | I guess ;) | 06:41 |
| raphink | dh_make will create a debian/directory in the source | 06:42 |
| raphink | and create a lot of things in it | 06:42 |
| raphink | the doc explains what they are for :) | 06:42 |
| raphink | I'll let you read :) | 06:42 |
| raphink | ping me if you need Flosoft | 06:44 |
| Flosoft | ok ... 3.1 .. where is the make file? raphink? | 06:47 |
| raphink | how do you mean? | 06:47 |
| Flosoft | well 3.1 they say I have to check if there are no static paths | 06:48 |
| raphink | oh yes | 06:48 |
| raphink | in the makefile | 06:48 |
| Flosoft | but in what file is that? | 06:48 |
| raphink | well you must have a makefile in the source | 06:48 |
| raphink | it's called makefile ;) | 06:48 |
| Flosoft | brb ... gotta eat | 06:48 |
| raphink | ok | 06:49 |
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| Flosoft | back | 07:04 |
| Flosoft | well there is no makefile raphink ... wanna take a look? | 07:04 |
| Flosoft | raphink ... u still there? | 07:14 |
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| Flosoft | raphink? | 07:40 |
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| Flosoft | raphink .... u there? | 08:31 |
| raphink | Flosoft: sorry I was eating | 08:32 |
| raphink | we're watching a movie right now | 08:32 |
| Flosoft | ah ok ... | 08:32 |
| raphink | but if you have a question go on | 08:32 |
| Flosoft | well can u take a look @ the console I got open | 08:32 |
| Flosoft | there is no makefile | 08:32 |
| Flosoft | only for windows | 08:32 |
| raphink | I'll have a look | 08:32 |
| raphink | wait | 08:32 |
| Flosoft | u got the login etc in pm | 08:32 |
| raphink | I'm logged it | 08:33 |
| raphink | in | 08:33 |
| Flosoft | screen -x | 08:33 |
| raphink | where did you put it | 08:33 |
| raphink | ? | 08:33 |
| Flosoft | just run screen -x | 08:33 |
| Flosoft | and you'll get in the same session as I am | 08:33 |
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| kkathman | raphink you still around? | 09:27 |
| raphink | yep | 09:28 |
| raphink | we're packaging with Flosoft | 09:28 |
| kkathman | raphink: whats the best way to find out if a package is being worked on ... is it the same thats listed in Debian? | 09:34 |
| kkathman | or does Kubuntu have its list? | 09:34 |
| raphink | the NEW queue is very short on ubuntu | 09:34 |
| raphink | we don't use bugs for that as on Debian | 09:34 |
| raphink | if a package is being worked on in Ubuntu for quite a long time, you'll see it on REVU | 09:35 |
| raphink | http://revu.tauware.de | 09:35 |
| raphink | if it's not on REVU, not in Dapper yet | 09:35 |
| raphink | then it's probably not being worked on in Ubuntu | 09:35 |
| raphink | yet you have to check on Debian | 09:35 |
| raphink | and especially if an ITP has been filed for it | 09:35 |
| raphink | on bugs.debian.org, package wnpp | 09:36 |
| raphink | and if someone has made an unofficial package, on apt-get.org ;) | 09:36 |
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| kkathman | Im just trying to figure out that if I "found" a package to work on..what I would check to make sure no one else has it or that its not being worked on | 09:41 |
| Tm_T | kkathman: :) | 09:41 |
| raphink | kkathman: I listed this on MOTUReviewingGuide | 09:42 |
| raphink | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTUReviewingGuide#head-bac17647fdb6e11e32c96b3ad874e9074cc21610 | 09:42 |
| kkathman | ahhh I havent got to that one yet...been on the debian manuals thing | 09:43 |
| kkathman | hey Tm_T :) | 09:43 |
| raphink | ok | 09:43 |
| kkathman | sorry to bother | 09:43 |
| raphink | :) | 09:43 |
| kkathman | didnt mean to invoke your frustration :( | 09:44 |
| jahor | hi. is there any way to be lucky with making rcS compatible with "switching servicess off by chmod -x /etc/init.d/foo" ? | 09:45 |
| raphink | kkathman: my frustration ? lol | 09:46 |
| jahor | i have patched my rc script to not complain aboyt executable permission. and now i could simply turn off services simplier than with update-rc.d | 09:46 |
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| raphink | kkathman: got the infos you wanted? | 11:15 |
| kkathman | yah still reading :) | 11:21 |
| kkathman | apologize for interrupting. | 11:22 |
| raphink | np | 11:22 |
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| Flosoft | hey | 11:51 |
| Flosoft | I am looking for someone who is able to code a amarok plugin | 11:51 |
| Riddell | Flosoft: #amarok | 11:54 |
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